[00:01] <bdizzle> ah, wonderful, thanks
[00:12] <linuxman410> i turned off computer and back on and now all i have is 640x480 resoultion
[00:13] <linuxman410> anyone have any ideas how to fix
[00:15] <sebastian_> hi all.
[00:17] <linuxman410> sebastian are you using kbuntu
[00:17] <linuxman410> kubuntu
[00:24] <phoenixz> Does Ubuntu already have multi touch screens? I saw many prototypes for this feature but I never head anything about this being included in some distro already..
[00:25] <popey> is it possible in KDE 4.2 to set power management to userspace governer only? I dont want kde power management to muck about with my cpu speed
[00:34] <a_> a
[00:36] <BluesKaj> popey, uninstall powernowd
[00:40] <ruyi7952> Hello Who's Chinese??
[00:41] <ruyi7952> I updated to Kubuntu 9.04 now!!!! =)
[00:42] <ruyi7952> exit
[00:42] <ruyi7952> #exit
[00:42] <ruyi7952> #quit
[00:43] <popey> thanks BluesKaj
[00:54] <Werenerd> Is anyone here familiar with linksys easyadvisor on Windows?
[00:55] <Werenerd> The only thing I am wanting is a graphical representation of computers logged into a home network
[00:55] <Werenerd> My Dad says he can't live without it.
[01:02] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: What kind of "home network" are we talking about here? TCP/IP or SMB?
[01:03] <Werenerd> tcp
[01:03] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: So what you want is a list of computers your DHCP server have given leases to then?
[01:03] <Werenerd> yup, thats right
[01:03] <BlueEagle> ...and turn that into something with pretty images.
[01:03] <Werenerd> exactly
[01:04] <Werenerd> I don't need it, my dad is used to the linksys easyadvisor and I am trying to convert him
[01:05] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Well I do not know if there are any pre-mades that makes pretty graphics from the leases file, but it's just a matter of reading the leases file and print a pretty picture for every lease with the IP below it.
[01:06] <Werenerd> http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/17/0,1425,sz=1&i=177590,00.jpg
[01:06] <Werenerd> that is what he is used to
[01:07] <Werenerd> I think it is a neat novelty, but no more useful than the lease file
[01:08] <Unksi> how do you change locales on intrepid? sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt give out any options for switching anymore, just checks if locales are up to date or not
[01:08] <BlueEagle> Well it's the leases file combined with some topology awareness, but it's mostly eye candy.
[01:09] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Also, you should advise him that the easyadvisor does not show machines that are connected trough the gateway using a static IP address that has not been assigned by the DHCP server. Nor will the leases file.
[01:09] <Werenerd> Really? I did not know that
[01:10] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Well what you could do was look at the arp tables I guess.
[01:10] <Werenerd> BlueEagle: Is there an app that I... arp tables?
[01:11] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: on the command prompt type: arp
[01:11] <afeijo> I installed vmware, but when I click on its icon, it dont open.  Whats wrong?
[01:12] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: That will list all active connections I guess.
[01:12] <BlueEagle> afeijo: Try starting wmware in a terminal and see if you get any useful error message.
[01:12] <afeijo> some errors about GCC_3.4 and similars
[01:13] <afeijo> a few libs
[01:13] <Werenerd> BlueEagle: all that came back on for me was the router address
[01:13] <BlueEagle> afeijo: That's not nearly accurate enough for anyone to be able to debug it.
[01:13] <afeijo> oh
[01:13] <wallabee> i need some help.. everytime i use java oriented page my firefox browser just vanishes anyone know about this or how to fix?
[01:13] <afeijo>  /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_3.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[01:14] <wallabee> i installed the plugins through firefox
[01:14] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Are any other machines than the router connected to the machine you executed arp on?
[01:15] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Because on my server it shows both my workstation and my router.
[01:16] <Werenerd> BlueEagle: I am on my laptop (wireless) there is my ps3 (wireless) Wii (wireless) and desktop (wired)
[01:16] <Werenerd> Should I have run that from the desktop?
[01:16] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: and are they connected to the router or to your laptop?
[01:17] <faileas> afeijo: there's a vmware specific channel which may be of help. also vmware what?
[01:17] <afeijo> vmware server 1.0.8
[01:17] <afeijo> I found something on google, I'm trying it now
[01:18] <faileas> afeijo: hmm, i'm on 2.0. its a lot nicer ;p
[01:18] <Werenerd> Everything is given network access via the router
[01:18] <afeijo> it worked :)
[01:18] <faileas> they dumped the console for a firefox plugin
[01:18] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Then you need to check the routers arp tables.
[01:18] <afeijo> well, I will try the new version, but now I just need to open a vm
[01:18] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Because all your laptop ever needs to know about is the devices it is connected to itself.
[01:18] <wallabee> if i disable the GCJ web browser plugin 0.96.1 i can view the webpage without it killing itself but then no java of course
[01:19] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Have you tried running the easyadvisor in wine or mono?
[01:20] <Werenerd> nope. I try not to use windows apps at all personally. I could try it, but I would rahter not
[01:21] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Well if a windows app does a particular job and there are no replacements availible in Linux and this is an app that is critical for the migration of a user then I see no problem in running said app trough a compatibility layer or even emulator.
[01:22] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: Easyadvisor is a highly specialized propriatory (or how that is spelt) piece of software and odds are that it uses some custom format when communicating with the router so making a generic replacement is difficult.
[01:23] <Werenerd> I agree if there is nothinng comparable. But there has to be something out there! I use one or two window apps myself. But they were purposefully developed with wine in mind. so I don't feel so dirty!
[01:23] <Werenerd> you are probably right, i had not thought about the proprietary nature of the router
[01:24] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: No, there doesn't have to be something out there. Simply because this is an application that works only with routers of one make, and I would assume that it only works with a limited number of models and above that, it's mostly useless.
[01:24] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: The big "Linksys" logo should have been a clue. ;)
[01:25] <Werenerd> lol, yeah i know
[01:25] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: You could write Linksys and ask them to make a KDE-version of that tool tho. :)
[01:26] <Werenerd> wouldn't that be a hoot if they actually replied or even listened? Be a first.
[01:28] <Werenerd> BlueEagle: thanks for the help
[01:29] <BlueEagle> Werenerd: I really didn't help much I guess. ;) I should probably be thanking you for listning to my views. hehe. But you are most welcome.
[01:29] <Dug_ur_a_MA> pay me
[01:32] <jonasagapito> \list
[01:33] <jonasagapito> !list
[01:36] <keres_> how do you transfer files between a kubuntu machine and a vmware box?
[01:37] <faileas> keres_: same way you would transfer files between a kubuntu machine and another physical box
[01:37] <faileas> samba/nfs/usb/cd etc
[01:38] <keres_> samba?
[01:39] <faileas> keres_: windows file sharing and its linux 'port'
[01:39] <keres_> faileas: what is its apt-get?
[01:40] <faileas> keres_: er, package name?
[01:40] <faileas> one moment, i pull up an installation howto
[01:40] <keres_> samba?
[01:40] <keres_> sudo apt-get install samba?
[01:40] <faileas> probably but you will need a little bit of config
[01:40]  * faileas just tends to use the USB passthrough feature half the time >_>
[01:51] <BlueEagle> Is there a tutorial on improving the sluggish performance of KDE4?
[01:54] <jdfellow> i want to know how to add available volumes like hard drives to the desktop in Kubuntu 8.10
[01:54] <jdfellow> please
[02:06] <snarkster> what the heck is up amarok and plasma today? I can get amarok to start one time and then never again..
[02:07] <dr_willis> jdfellow,  you allready have the drives mounted somewher? you just want icons for them on the desktop?
[02:07] <snarkster> i think im going to have to uninstall everything all over again.
[02:08] <snarkster> kde4 doesnt put icons on the desktop..
[02:08] <dr_willis> kde4 has a mounted-places/devices  panel applet - or ya could just use the folderview applet show /media/ as another waty
[02:08] <snarkster> true
[02:19] <dan_> Howdy
[02:21] <dan_> I was not expecting this.  This is kewl
[02:21]  * genii hands out coffees
[02:22] <dr_willis> hmm?
[02:22]  * dr_willis wants DoughNuts!
[02:30] <joh6nn> Does anyone know how to remove Desktop Activities in the 4.2 Beta?
[02:32]  * genii goes and gets some Tim Horton's doughnuts for dr_willis
[02:34] <joh6nn> also, anyone know why my updates-notifier has disappeared, and how i get it back?
[02:35] <kevin__> my computer always runs in low graphics mode
[02:36] <kevin__> and i have ati binary activated for my 9800xt
[02:39] <kevin__> im having severe graphics issues and have been mucking around to try to fix  it but im a n00b and probably messed things up further
[02:40] <joh6nn> kevin__: define "severe graphics issues"
[02:45] <kevin__> do you know of any solution to my graphics problem.  it scrambles when i try to do a few things like acess my display settings
[02:45] <kevin__> like cannot use scrambles the display
[02:45] <kevin__> and gives errors on startup
[02:45] <kevin__> like edid
[02:45] <kevin__> 0
[02:45] <joh6nn> what errors does it give?
[02:45] <kevin__> fglrx
[02:45] <kevin__> do you want me to get it
[02:45] <kevin__> holdon
[02:48] <kevin__> oh it also cycles like turns the monitor on and off a few times before it gives me the error i am currently about to read (its on my desktop and im on my laptop)
[02:48] <kevin__> ok it says
[02:48] <kevin__> (EE) fglrx(0): unknown EDID version 0
[02:48] <kevin__> ubuntu is running low gfx mode
[02:49] <kevin__> the following was encountred.  you may need to update bla bla bla
[02:49] <kevin__> your configuration to solve this
[02:49] <joh6nn> are you sure it's turning the monitor off?  more likely would be that it's trying to a few different video modes, but none of them work
[02:50] <kevin__> right
[02:50] <joh6nn> are you using Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10?
[02:50] <kevin__> i mean it makes that click noise
[02:50] <kevin__> 8.q0
[02:50] <joh6nn> ok
[02:50] <kevin__> and i think the led changes orange? dont remember
[02:50] <joh6nn> i know they messed with video stuff for 8.10, but i'm not sure if that makes a difference
[02:50] <kevin__> i mean 8.10 sorry
[02:51] <joh6nn> i'm assuming there's a command line for you to type at?
[02:51] <snarkster> amarok 2 will not work in KDE 4.2. But it works like a charm in XFCE
[02:51] <kevin__> i mean i can use the terminal when i havent done anything to scramble it
[02:52] <snarkster> you have a screwed up terminal?
[02:52] <kevin__> also after the error it asks      run in low gfx/ reconfigure/ troubleshoot the error
[02:52] <kevin__> no i have screwed up display something
[02:52] <kevin__> fglrx
[02:52] <joh6nn> ok.  from the terminal, try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <kevin__> there is the option in the error thing to troubleshoot it and get some outputs from it
[02:53] <kevin__> but im going to low graphics mode now to enter that
[02:53] <joh6nn> actually, you'll need to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <kevin__> ok
[02:53] <joh6nn> snarkster: i've got amarok 2 running fine in 4.2; what errors are you getting?
[02:55] <kevin__> john, use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[02:55] <joh6nn> probably doesn't matter
[02:55] <kevin__> ill try yes
[02:56] <kevin__> ?
[02:56] <kevin__> heh
[02:56] <kevin__> xkb rule set to use?
[02:56] <kevin__> xorg?
[02:56] <joh6nn> i usually just use the defaults
[02:56] <kevin__> is what is already there
[02:56] <kevin__> ok
[02:58] <kevin__> now its asking me about my keyboard and i can click ok
[02:58] <kevin__> cant
[02:58] <kevin__> lol
[02:59] <genii> kevin__: It's command line. Use TAB to switch fields and ENTER to select
[03:00] <snarkster> im not getting any errors, i get the splash screen and then nothing happens
[03:00] <snarkster> im in XFCE right now and its aslittle slugish to get it stated and only starts from a cold boot
[03:01] <kevin__> omg i just closed it before i saw that and now im restarting because it doesnt want to start that sudo thing again
[03:01] <snarkster> ive not had really good luck with 4.2 beta..
[03:01] <snarkster> plasma erros, systray not shwing all that it should
[03:06] <kevin__> john6nn it says in terminal warning:possible customised config file backup in /ext...
[03:07] <kevin__> or anyone actually
[03:09] <kevin__> ok so i just went ahead to try to see if that reconfiguration helped and i clicked on the thing that said display in system settings and now  the screen again is a bunch of diagonal lines and i will need to hard restart
[03:10] <radlipat> can someone help me im having trouble with linux kubuntu
[03:10] <radlipat> i cant install shockwave
[03:10] <tkstka> why does listen.pls stop
[03:11] <tkstka> when I try to watch stream
[03:11] <tkstka> video stream
[03:11] <genii> radlipat: Correct. This is since shockwave is based on requiring Microsoft ActiveX which doesn't exist in Linux
[03:11] <radlipat> ohhh
[03:11] <tkstka> H264 Codec
[03:11] <radlipat> ok so is there a way to watch youtube on linux?
[03:11] <tkstka> :o
[03:11] <tkstka> there is
[03:12] <snarkster> install flash
[03:12] <tkstka> install flash
[03:12] <tkstka> :D
[03:12] <tkstka> first thing I did
[03:12] <genii> radlipat: youtube doesn't need shockwave, just flash
[03:12] <radlipat> oh ok ty
[03:12] <kevin__> anyone
[03:13] <snarkster> !ati
[03:13] <genii> kevin__: Don't hard reboot if possible. If you can do ctrl-alt-f1   then login to terminal
[03:13] <kevin__> oh
[03:13] <kevin__> ctr alt f1 will "unscramble" it?
[03:14] <snarkster> he has jacked up terminal
[03:14] <genii> kevin__: ctrl-alt-f1 will shift you to a non-graphical console which hopefully will have readable text
[03:14] <radlipat> oh yes is there a way to install pirates of the caribbean online w/o shockwave insince disney.com needs shockwave
[03:14] <ricardo> hello
[03:14] <kevin__> i mean the whole screen is a bunch of diagonal colorful lines and my mouse moves like a point through it but like moving it up moves it horizontaly upward and then starts over again on the other side
[03:14] <snarkster> kevin__: type tput init
[03:14] <snarkster> tput reset
[03:14] <snarkster> stty sane
[03:14] <kevin__> but it doesnt look like a mouse
[03:15] <kevin__> tput init in the terminal?
[03:15] <genii> radlipat: Anything requiring specifically shockwave won't work under linux without extensive and dangerous tinkering
[03:15] <radlipat> ohhh ok thankyou very much then
[03:15] <snarkster> yup the scrambled one
[03:16] <genii> kevin__: Are you able to get to a text based screen which is not diagonal stripes with ctrl-alt-f1  ?
[03:16]  * genii wonders what exactly doesn't look like a mouse
[03:16] <kevin__> well i already hard reset itwell i had hard reset it before u got to me but now im at a normal screen
[03:17] <kevin__> that xserver reconfigure might have changed comething because the taskbar spans the entire screen now
[03:17] <kevin__> well when i hit display butten in settings
[03:17] <genii> kevin__: Spontaneous improvisation on your part makes it difficult to assist. Since you can put the system into an even more unstable state this way
[03:18] <kevin__> well the problem is that i did that reconfig thing someone told me to do
[03:18] <kevin__> an got no response
[03:18] <kevin__> i went to check the display if it was fixed
[03:18] <kevin__> and it scrambled
[03:18] <kevin__> then i hard reset it
[03:18] <kevin__> the taskbar or whatever goes all the way across the screen in it now
[03:18] <genii> kevin__: You DID get a response. You need to wait longer than 60-90 seconds for people to prepare replies etc etc
[03:19] <kevin__> well i am HIGHLY appriciative of the responses
[03:19] <kevin__> but i was going quickly
[03:19] <kevin__> what should i try now i would like to look at the display settings after the reset but what do you think i should do
[03:20] <genii> kevin__: At any rate if your graphical system is usable again, you can go from there to try and set it how it's supposed to end up
[03:20] <genii> kevin__: So curently your resolution is acceptable?
[03:21] <kevin__> and the thing that doesnt look like a mouse was after i clicked display before the hard reboot, the screen was like stretched out 4 miles long then run at a 15 degree upward slope and the mouse is just a smal line withing the long bar that was my display
[03:21] <kevin__> it appears to be so, let me check the settings
[03:22] <radlipat> ok for flash install what version do i use
[03:22] <genii> kevin__: Also re: waiting for replies... if you are talking with a specific person, put their name at the start of your message to them. Otherwise if they are in some other channel, they have no idea anyone is talking to them
[03:24] <kevin__> ok i see what you are saying
[03:24] <genii> radlipat: Use the add/remove programs and install from there the package called "flashplugin-nonfree"
[03:24] <radlipat> ok ty
[03:25] <kevin__> genii now my res is acceptable how do i make the cube effect when tabbing between workspaces as well as the big blob of jellow for a window effects
[03:25] <kevin__> do i need to activate my ati driver again?
[03:25] <kevin__> genii also the display settings do not scramble me anymore
[03:26] <genii> kevin__: If you're using compiz-fusion for this, you might want tyo ask them in their channel, #compiz-fusion
[03:26] <snarkster> !compiz
[03:26]  * genii hands snarkster a coffee
[03:26] <snarkster> oh thank you, i needed that
[03:26] <genii> radlipat: You're welcome
[03:26] <genii> snarkster: Anytime :)
[03:27] <binskipy2u> hey guys, is there a "wallpaper" changer for kubuntu 4.1.3? that cycles the wallpapers like "desktop drapes" does on Ubuntu?
[03:28] <snarkster> i am having a hell of a time getting hotway to work with evolution
[03:28] <binskipy2u> anyone use a wallpaper changer for kubuntu? i miss the wallpaper per desktop like on 3.5.10
[03:28] <kevin__> thanks genii
[03:28] <snarkster> kamil wouldnt work at all..
[03:28] <binskipy2u> anyone?
[03:28] <genii> kevin__: You're welcome
[03:28] <joh6nn> binskipy2u: it's coming in 4.2, if i remember
[03:29] <binskipy2u> i figure there'd be "something" i can do now?
[03:29] <genii> snarkster: I hear also gotmail is a pita as well.
[03:29] <joh6nn> i upgraded to the 4.2 beta, so no idea
[03:29] <snarkster> well hotway is configured correctly but i just cant seem to be able to send.
[03:29]  * mrksbrd hands genii a cup of coffee......here u go bro!
[03:30] <radlipat> ok i cant find it under add or removeprograms
[03:30] <genii> mrksbrd: Yay, coffee!!
[03:30] <mrksbrd> lol....know u can never have enough
[03:30] <genii> radlipat: You may need to enable the repository which it is in
[03:31] <genii> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:31] <radlipat> how would i do that??
[03:31] <mrksbrd> genii: have u ever heard of ubuntu ultimate
[03:31] <radlipat> ??????????????
[03:31] <Roey> HI
[03:31] <radlipat> i am new to kubuntu
[03:31] <radlipat> and linux
[03:32] <mrksbrd> radlipat: in adept
[03:32] <Roey> libmysqlclient15-dev doesn't seem to be compiled with -fPIC for 64-bit architectures, and it's breaking my compile of amarok 2.
[03:32] <joh6nn> radlipat: i missed it; what're you trying to install?
[03:32] <genii> radlipat: It is in the repository called multiverse. So in Adept (the "add/remove" application) you can tell it to use this one
[03:32] <genii> joh6nn: flash
[03:32] <joh6nn> ah
[03:32] <mrksbrd> or terminal....sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <genii> mrksbrd: Yes,
[03:33] <genii> bah
[03:33] <genii> (cat is crawling on keyboard)
[03:33]  * mrksbrd hates cats
[03:33] <mrksbrd> what do u think of it?
[03:33] <joh6nn> actually, would probably be better to shoot multiple birds with one stone; if radlipat is new to linux, $10 says he'll be wanting all of the restricted extras
[03:33] <MoLoot_> Hello all :)
[03:34] <genii> mrksbrd: Yes, ubuntu ultimate however is not supprted here. Also for his apt-get install to work, he'd still need to have multiverse repo enabled ;)
[03:34] <radlipat> you win!!!!!
[03:34] <radlipat> lol
[03:34] <mrksbrd> true
[03:34] <snarkster> loves cats and has 4 of them
[03:34] <MoLoot_> I upgraded to Intrepid and now can't see video like on myspace.  Am I missing a package?
[03:34] <mrksbrd> yea i knew it wasn't supported
[03:34] <radlipat> so how do i get them?
[03:34] <genii> joh6nn: Over to you ;)
[03:34] <joh6nn> radlipat: in the Add & Remove programs tool, in the top left, it should say "Sources"
[03:35] <radlipat> ummmmmmm
[03:35] <snarkster> is there a way to remove the beta and go back to 4.1.3
[03:36] <radlipat> acctual add or remove or in package manager?
[03:36] <kevin__> genii ok i tried to activate the ati driver again and now im back to getting that edid error
[03:36] <joh6nn> radlipat: are you on 8.10 or 8.04?
[03:36] <radlipat> lol 6. 06
[03:36] <radlipat> lmao
[03:36] <snarkster> nice
[03:36] <genii> kevin__: edid type errors means it can't understand what sort of monitor you have attached
[03:36] <snarkster> FTW
[03:36] <joh6nn> uh
[03:37] <kevin__> genii and now the desktop is back to higher resolution and a short bar at the bottom
[03:37] <joh6nn> why are you using such an old version?
[03:37] <radlipat> lol got from grandma a couple of years ago
[03:37] <kevin__>  (EE) fglrx(0): unknown EDID version 0
[03:37]  * genii ships radlipat an 8.04 CD
[03:37] <radlipat> ive been using windows and now i cant find cd again
[03:38] <radlipat> and i like it it makes my comp faster
[03:38] <kevin__> genii how do i make it understand my monitor?
[03:38] <kevin__> genii  (EE) fglrx(0): unknown EDID version 0
[03:38] <genii> kevin__: Google produces this for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962194
[03:38] <MoLoot_> .. I even uninstalled firefox and reinstalled and that didn't help.
[03:38] <genii> kevin__: Again, with impatience ;)
[03:38] <radlipat> genii u shiped me a 8.04 cd?
[03:39] <kevin__> no seriously im not being impatient
[03:39] <genii> radlipat: Haha, no, but I wish I could
[03:39] <kevin__> i wwas just trying to be complete
[03:39] <radlipat> lol
[03:39] <mrksbrd> MoLoot: probably java plugin
[03:39] <kevin__> i repeated it do it would hilight it for u
[03:39] <joh6nn> radlipat: ok, i haven't used 6.06 in over a year in half, so i can't help you with the gui.  we'll have to do it another way
[03:39] <radlipat> i have an ubuntu coming i shiptit yesterday
[03:39] <genii> kevin__: OK, no worries. I had to go research it a bit though. Let me know if the solution on the forum works
[03:40] <radlipat> but i would like flash for now
[03:40] <joh6nn> close any programs you have open at the moment, for installing software.   I've been doing nothing but looking up flash... :)
[03:45] <mrksbrd> kevin__: it is hit or miss, which video card?
[03:45] <kevin__> 9800xt
[03:45] <mrksbrd> is that ati?
[03:45] <kevin__> im seeing if those commands in that thread will work of deleting that file
[03:45] <kevin__> yes
[03:46] <radlipat> it locked up i cant type
[03:46] <kevin__> my battery might die but thanks everyone
[03:46] <snarkster> so plug it in
[03:46] <kevin__> and further thoughts <mrksbrd>
[03:46] <joh6nn> radlipat: give it a sec
[03:46] <kevin__> im lazy and its ovet here haha
[03:46] <kevin__> there
[03:47] <mrksbrd> coming into your problem late but have u tried installing envyng?
[03:47] <snarkster> bah
[03:47] <kevin__> me?
[03:47] <kevin__> no
[03:47] <mrksbrd> yea
[03:47]  * MoLoot_ is reinstalling his java packages and hopign that works..
[03:48] <mrksbrd> that will put correct drivers for ati in there, might be ablr configure it more kinda like NVIDIA's X SERVER
[03:48] <kevin__> how will i find it once i adaptec it?
[03:48] <radlipat> i still cant
[03:48] <mrksbrd> google it
[03:48] <m_> so i just finished installing kubuntu and a bunch of fun programs onto my uncle
[03:49] <tkstka> my vlc has jammed
[03:49] <tkstka> :C
[03:49] <kevin__> who
[03:49] <snarkster> nice i didnt know an uncle could have programs installed on him
[03:49] <tkstka> killall vlc doesnt work
[03:49] <m_> 's laptop, problem is... kde4 is running slow. how to mak it run faster? this machine has a 2+ghz processor and 512mb ram
[03:49] <mrksbrd> google envyng
[03:49] <genii> snarkster: Damn, I was actually thinking just that
[03:49] <mrksbrd> will be able to d/l it fromsite
[03:49] <radlipat> joh6mm:????? i still cant enter password
[03:50] <genii> !envyng
[03:51] <mrksbrd> when i tried to enable s-video port on mine it was hit or miss with NVIDIA x-server....sometimes it will work other times it wouldn't.
[03:51] <mrksbrd> ty genii
[03:51] <radlipat> ok password worked
[03:51] <kevin__> doesnt that mean if it is now in the reposi tha i will be able to dl id adaptec
[03:51] <radlipat> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:51] <radlipat> now what?
[03:52] <m_> i uncheckd the "enable desktop effects", will that really disable all the effects? is there something similar to what is in kde3 where you can tell kde to keep the eye low low?
[03:52] <genii> kevin__: Yes, it should be installable from Adept
[03:52] <radlipat> hello joh6????????????
[03:52] <m_> eye candy*
[03:53] <radlipat> anyone?????????
[03:53] <snarkster> smoke break brb
[03:54] <joh6nn> radlipat: sorry, a little busy
[03:54] <joh6nn> ok, you should have a kind of archaic text editor open now
[03:54]  * MoLoot_ is beginning to wish he stayed with 8.04...
[03:54] <radlipat> ummmm ?????
[03:54] <radlipat> mabey????
[03:55] <radlipat> it gave a list of things with ## in front of them
[03:55] <joh6nn> yeah
[03:55] <kevin__> gtk qt or core or all of the above
[03:55] <kevin__> this is in synaptic
[03:55]  * mrksbrd isn't going to switch to 8.10 until the buggies are worked out
[03:55] <radlipat> ok
[03:55] <kevin__> after envyng
[03:55] <joh6nn> you want to find all the lines that end with "multiverse", and remove the ## from the front of them
[03:56] <MoLoot_> mrksbrd: I just would like to have all of the mutlimedia capabilities in firefox that I did before the upgrade....
[03:56] <mrksbrd> what particularly looking for?
[03:56] <kevin__> genii or mrksbrd
[03:57] <radlipat> there isnt any however there is 'UNIVERSE'
[03:57] <kevin__> do i use the gtk of the qt or core versions? do you know? maybe it will automaticaly include everything
[03:57] <mrksbrd> yes kevin
[03:57] <genii> kevin__: qt   since on kde
[03:57] <joh6nn> radlipat: good enough
[03:57] <radlipat> ok
[03:57] <mrksbrd> if u hit core it should select whatever else is needed
[03:58] <radlipat> ummm i cant remove them
[03:58] <joh6nn> hit Insert, then try
[03:59] <genii> nano might have been a better choice ...
[03:59] <kevin__> now that i have it installed, do i restart or where would i find it
[03:59] <radlipat> nope it only beeps
[03:59] <joh6nn> genii: honestly, i have never figured out how to use nano. :/
[03:59] <m_> !desktop
[03:59] <genii> radlipat: hit esc a few times
[03:59] <radlipat> ok it worked now
[03:59] <m_> !effects
[04:00] <m_> hmm, no help
[04:00] <mrksbrd> kevin__/; check under system menu
[04:01] <joh6nn> radlipat: ok, now hit Esc, and make sure that it doesn't say "--Insert--" or anything down at the bottom of the screen
[04:01] <joh6nn> if you're it doesn't, then type ":x"
[04:02] <joh6nn> if you're sure, that is
[04:02] <radlipat> ok
[04:03] <joh6nn> that work?
[04:03] <mrksbrd> kevin__: did u find it
[04:03] <radlipat> :xit typed then what?
[04:03] <snarkster> yah I heard something about mouse issues with intrepid.. Ive had no issues with anything on intrepid
[04:04] <joh6nn> radlipat: ":x" should save, and close the file you were just working on
[04:04] <mrksbrd> snarkster: i've had all good luck running 8.10 on desktops....laptops are a different story
[04:04] <radlipat> ok so close konsole?
[04:04] <joh6nn> no
[04:04] <radlipat> ok
[04:05] <snarkster> really? what are the issues with laptops?
[04:05] <mrksbrd> on mine @ least hangs with some kind of usb issue
[04:05] <radlipat> then what?
[04:05] <radlipat> i did not close konsole
[04:05] <joh6nn> now run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search flash | grep adobe"
[04:05] <snarkster> really?
[04:06] <radlipat> is there a space between apt and get?
[04:06] <snarkster> when you say hangs, talking hard lock or X stops responding till you unplug the offending device
[04:06] <joh6nn> radlipat: no, there's a dash
[04:06] <mrksbrd> only way i get it to run thru first part of install boot is to hold down any key on keyboard
[04:06] <snarkster> wow
[04:06] <mrksbrd> the rest will go thru fine
[04:07] <mrksbrd> but after it is installed i have to hold the button down again so it continues to boot
[04:08] <snarkster> have you turned acpi off?
[04:08] <radlipat> how i make line?
[04:08] <joh6nn> radlipat: what?
[04:08] <mrksbrd> when i run recovery, thats where i see it hanging on some type of usb issue
[04:08] <joh6nn> oh
[04:08] <radlipat> |
[04:08] <joh6nn> it's probably the key about Enter
[04:08] <joh6nn> above*
[04:08] <snarkster> hmm module issue
[04:09] <mrksbrd> that's what i;m thinking
[04:09] <radlipat> do i type "???
[04:09] <snarkster> anyway Ive got it running on my asus aspire 6930
[04:09] <radlipat> "
[04:09] <joh6nn> no
[04:09] <radlipat> ok
[04:09] <radlipat> it typed a list of htmls
[04:09] <radlipat> srry tired https
[04:09] <mrksbrd> i remember when 8.0 was released had the same issue, then i guess it was eventually fixed
[04:10] <mrksbrd> hopefully this will be the same
[04:10] <mrksbrd> maybe it is just an issue w/HP products
[04:11] <radlipat> now what?
[04:11] <joh6nn> radlipat: ok, now try "apt-cache search flash"
[04:12] <radlipat> ok
[04:12] <radlipat> now?
[04:12] <mrksbrd> has anyone tried the new beta?
[04:12] <snarkster> ok im out, going to try to get EVE Online to work with my video card.. sheesh
[04:12] <joh6nn> did it find anything?
[04:13] <mrksbrd> genii: have u tried the new beta yet?
[04:14] <radlipat> ok "konqueror - kde's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer adobe-flashplugin - adobe flash player plugin version 10"
[04:14] <rooooob> when can we expect the kubuntu-experimental source to have beta2?
[04:15] <genii> mrksbrd: Jaunty? Not yet
[04:15] <radlipat> is what it said
[04:15] <mrksbrd> appearence any different?3
[04:15] <radlipat> god please help me through colege!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:16] <radlipat> lol i wanna be an ITlol
[04:16] <brad_> ok so this is a really simple and hopefully really short question. on the newer kopete instead of showing me a link it shows the word link, then opens to a temporary cache
[04:16] <brad_> it is driving me crazy and I dont see a setting anywhere
[04:16] <mrksbrd> RAD, what do u need just the plugins?
[04:16] <joh6nn> radlipat: ok, now type "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[04:16] <radlipat> yes but im on old version 6.06
[04:17] <joh6nn> that should be it
[04:17] <brad_> and dont understand why anyone would want to see the word link instead of the link (esp as links you follow after clicking it dont work, and one has to copy link location)
[04:17] <mrksbrd> 6.06 use debs????
[04:17] <radlipat> i think so mrk
[04:18] <radlipat> thats what my skype is
[04:18] <radlipat> ok typed that
[04:18] <joh6nn> that should be it
[04:18] <joh6nn> it should be installed now
[04:18] <radlipat> and a LONG list came by
[04:19] <radlipat> ok now i should test it on youtube?
[04:19] <joh6nn> oh.  it probably wants you to update things
[04:19] <joh6nn> you may need to tell it yes and let it install updates
[04:19] <joh6nn> but after that, it should be all set
[04:20] <radlipat> in adept?
[04:21] <radlipat> joh6???????????
[04:22] <radlipat> can i close konsole now?
[04:22] <mrksbrd> radlipat: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[04:22] <radlipat> i tried debs on that but it didnt work mrk
[04:22] <mrksbrd> k
[04:22] <radlipat> ty anyways
[04:23] <radlipat> JOH6NN u there?
[04:23] <mrksbrd> why not run a distro upgrade to 8.04?
[04:23] <radlipat> it says it is broken?????????????????
[04:23] <radlipat> idk how w/o disk
[04:24] <mrksbrd> does 6.06 have adept?
[04:24] <radlipat> yes
[04:25] <mrksbrd> does it have sources tab
[04:25] <radlipat> joh6nn mustof needed smoke break cause of the stuff we went through ;p;
[04:25] <radlipat> no
[04:25] <radlipat> i didnt
[04:25] <joh6nn> radlipat: no, don't close konsole.  what says it's broken?
[04:26] <radlipat> nvm it was shockwave from b4
[04:26] <joh6nn> all right, well, in theory, it should work now
[04:27] <joh6nn> you can try and test it at youtube now
[04:27] <radlipat> ok trying now
[04:27] <radlipat> NOPE
[04:27] <radlipat> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[04:28] <radlipat> GRRRRRRRRRRRRR stupid thing
[04:28] <radlipat> lol
[04:28] <mrksbrd> did u try sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <mrksbrd> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:29] <mrksbrd> if the repo was done right
[04:29] <joh6nn> radlipat: you're probably gonna have to wait for the new CD to come, then
[04:29] <joh6nn> sorry
[04:29] <radlipat> it says 0 upgrade 0 installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[04:29] <mrksbrd> those 2 commands will update whatever is missing within the repo
[04:29] <joh6nn> anyway, i'm out for the night
[04:29] <radlipat> kk man ty for trying very much
[04:30] <bobesponja> hey
[04:30] <mrksbrd> in your adept does it have any tabs up top
[04:30] <radlipat> umm
[04:30] <bobesponja> anybody knows why akanody is failing http://pastie.org/337367 ?
[04:30] <mrksbrd> one that might say repositories....adept....anything
[04:31] <radlipat> wait a sec plz
[04:31] <radlipat> yes adept
[04:31] <mrksbrd> click adept
[04:31] <radlipat> and manage reps
[04:31] <mrksbrd> see if it next says manage repos
[04:31] <radlipat> yes it does
[04:32] <mrksbrd> k
[04:32] <radlipat> click it?
[04:32] <mrksbrd> now look for third party software
[04:32] <radlipat> and can i close the konsole now?????????
[04:32] <mrksbrd> yes
[04:32] <radlipat> kk
[04:32] <radlipat> ty lol
[04:33] <radlipat> where would that be?
[04:33] <mrksbrd> under manage reps
[04:33] <mrksbrd> should be a few other tabs
[04:33] <radlipat> yeah i am that far
[04:33] <radlipat> i have a list of debs
[04:34] <radlipat> some available some not
[04:34] <radlipat> ohwait i said that wrong
[04:34] <radlipat> all available just a list of grey comments below them
[04:35] <radlipat> now what?
[04:35] <mrksbrd> one sec
[04:35] <radlipat> kk
[04:36] <radlipat> wholys its only 10:30 here
[04:36] <radlipat> pm
[04:37] <radlipat> so if i go through terminal is there anyway to get shockwave?
[04:38] <radlipat> i wanna have it so bro can still play his clubpenguin
[04:38] <radlipat> account
[04:38] <ses59_> I am trying to install open office 3.0 I did install with dpkg but no menu item  I tried this repository but it is not working http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu does anyone have the correct repository?
[04:38] <mrksbrd> radlipat: close adept
[04:39] <radlipat> ok
[04:39] <radlipat> donr
[04:39] <radlipat> done
[04:39] <mrksbrd> Alt F2
[04:39] <mrksbrd> then type gksu "update-manager"
[04:39] <radlipat> 0k
[04:40] <radlipat> could not run it says
[04:40] <mrksbrd> wtf
[04:40] <radlipat> i have option of running in terminal
[04:40] <radlipat> lol old piece of &*#%
[04:41] <pavati> Hey guys, I need some serious help!
[04:41] <radlipat> welcome to the club
[04:41] <radlipat> lol
[04:42] <pavati> I can not get any programs to run under wine. Well, they run, for example, world of Warcraft will run but it's soo choppy and I have another game that runs like a snail. I've got a decent video card and it ran okay in windows...is their anything I can do?
[04:42] <brad_> so I have this question about the fact that Kopete says "link" instead of showing the link, does anyone know where the setting is?
[04:43] <radlipat> well if we cant get flash at least how can i configure my mic for skype?
[04:43] <mrksbrd> what kind of internet speed u get?
[04:43] <radlipat> verison highspeed
[04:43] <radlipat> verizon*
[04:43] <mrksbrd> have a cd burner
[04:44] <radlipat> how ever only 256 ram
[04:44] <radlipat> on my windows one
[04:44] <radlipat> but i cant have internet on both at same time
[04:44] <radlipat> only one eathernet
[04:44] <radlipat> cored
[04:44] <mrksbrd> my sugestion is to forget 6.06 & d/l 8.04
[04:44] <mrksbrd> & burn it
[04:45] <radlipat> well how long does it take for it to come in mail if i live in USA?
[04:45] <mrksbrd> could take 3-6 weeks
[04:46] <radlipat> wholy wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[04:46] <radlipat> lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[04:46] <mrksbrd> yea
[04:46] <radlipat> i guess i stick with windows for gaming lol
[04:46] <mrksbrd> lol...u have one option
[04:46] <radlipat> what?
[04:46] <mrksbrd> download
[04:46] <radlipat> tthrough f*()er out window???????????
[04:47] <radlipat> lol
[04:47] <mrksbrd> or that tooo
[04:47] <mrksbrd> :P
[04:47] <radlipat> crapp!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant download
[04:47] <radlipat> not burnable cds
[04:47] <radlipat> choice 2 it is lol
[04:47] <modi> in that case please join #bratwurst for more help
[04:47] <radlipat> no*
[04:48] <snarkster> ok im back. lol
[04:48] <mrksbrd> wb
[04:48] <radlipat> WB
[04:48] <snarkster> how do i find what video driver is running?
[04:48] <modi> lets fets in the #bratwurst
[04:48] <snarkster> Im still not used to this new X with auto driver selection..
[04:48] <jussi01> modi: please dont spam
[04:49] <modi> okay
[04:49]  * mrksbrd sniffs an ass kickin
[04:50] <modi> everything has an end..... just a sausage has two.  <--- is this correct?
[04:50] <modi> ??
[04:50] <radlipat> i tried running update-manager in terminal and it says command not found mrk???? any ideas mabey sp check????????
[04:50] <jussi01> modi: this is a support channel. please keep on topic
[04:50] <genii> !ot
[04:51] <genii> jussi01: Ah, sorry did not see you were on it :)
[04:51] <olskolirc> anyone have a clue how I can hide my panel in kde4.1?  I'm on Intrepid.
[04:51]  * modi eats a sausage
[04:51] <snarkster> you cant
[04:51] <olskolirc> ok
[04:51] <jussi01> olskolirc: only if you upgrade to the experimental 4.2 beta repo
[04:52] <snarkster> upgrade to 4.2 beta for autohide goodness on the panel
[04:52] <olskolirc> where do i get that?
[04:52] <mrksbrd> ok all going to bed....have a good night!!!!
[04:52] <jussi01> olskolirc: look at the article on kubuntu.org
[04:52] <snarkster> goto kubuntu page and there is info on how to do that
[04:52] <snarkster> im trying to find what video driver im using
[04:53] <snarkster> look at xorg log?
[04:53] <jussi01> snarkster: yeah, should be there
[04:53] <radlipat> night
[04:53] <radlipat> mrk
[04:54] <radlipat> and ty for your time
[04:54] <radlipat> nvm i guess
[04:54] <radlipat> lol
[04:54] <radlipat> i guess all it 11 here i better hit hte hey
[04:55] <radlipat> night all and thanks to all who tryied to help me
[04:55] <olskolirc> how stable is this beta?
[04:56] <genii> "beta" might be an indication  ;)
[05:09] <binskipy2u> guys how do i fix cannot connect to xhost
[05:09] <binskipy2u> i cant use anything in root
[05:09] <binskipy2u> when i su
[05:09] <binskipy2u> help?
[05:09] <binskipy2u> just installed kubujntu
[05:09] <binskipy2u> pelase
[05:09] <binskipy2u> I know its xhost something
[05:09] <binskipy2u> anyone here???
[05:10] <jussi01> !root
[05:11] <binskipy2u> anyonbe know why konqueror, dolphinb wont open in root
[05:11] <binskipy2u> i get xhost can nnot connect
[05:11] <genii> binskipy2u: You are trying to run X over ssh or so?
[05:11] <binskipy2u> NOOOO
[05:11] <snarkster> ok this is what lspci says 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) this is what xorg says i have intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ,965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset,	Intel Integ
[05:11] <binskipy2u> just trying to open konqueror in root
[05:12] <binskipy2u> it wont let me
[05:12] <binskipy2u> i just installed kubuntu 20min ago
[05:12] <bazhang> binskipy2u, dont
[05:12] <bazhang> binskipy2u, use sudo
[05:12] <olskolirc> anyone have any problems with the kde 4.2?
[05:12] <jussi01> binskipy2u: just do: kdesudo konqueror
[05:12] <binskipy2u> io made a root password
[05:12] <genii> binskipy2u: In ubuntu nothing is supposed to be run as root user logged in...ever. That is why to use sudo
[05:12] <binskipy2u> it wont let me
[05:13] <binskipy2u> i have a root password
[05:13] <bazhang> binskipy2u, that is not a good idea at all; especially with a file browser
[05:13] <binskipy2u> there's some command, xhost something
[05:13] <binskipy2u> that allows it
[05:13] <olskolirc> my repository is supposed to be downloading 4.2 beta but im reading a lot of 4:4.1.80 during the install.  Is this normal?
[05:13] <jussi01> olskolirc: i had a few issues getting it installed. and a few things crash,  but generally it works well
[05:13] <genii> binkipy2u: Besides which X itself has a safeguard so not to allow you to run as root as well
[05:13] <olskolirc> thanks jussi01
[05:13] <binskipy2u> damnit i had to do it in ubuntu too
[05:13] <binskipy2u> its a command xhost something something
[05:13] <jussi01> olskolirc: 4.1.80 is 4.2 beta
[05:14] <binskipy2u> to allow m e to su i put my password
[05:14] <binskipy2u> then i type konqueror
[05:14] <binskipy2u> or nautilus
[05:14] <binskipy2u> and it lets me
[05:14] <binskipy2u> anyone know what it is
[05:14] <olskolirc> ok thanks jussi01
[05:14] <jussi01> !enter | binskipy2u
[05:14] <binskipy2u> i'm gogogling and googleing
[05:14] <bazhang> binskipy2u, that is not supported
[05:14] <binskipy2u> i cant run anything as root
[05:14] <binskipy2u> ive dont it before
[05:14] <binskipy2u> i dont ermemeber the command
[05:14] <bazhang> binskipy2u, ie your are on your own; breakage almost certainly to follow
[05:14] <genii> binskipy2u: Perhaps you're not reading the replies. We won't assist you to run things as root
[05:14] <binskipy2u> ive done it for years
[05:14] <binskipy2u> you dont un derstand
[05:14] <binskipy2u> ive dont this before
[05:15] <radlipat> is there a shipit for fedora???
[05:15] <radlipat> [23:19] <radlipat> or does fedora cost money??????????
[05:15] <jussi01> binskipy2u: stop using enter as punctuation please!
[05:15] <bazhang> binskipy2u, couple of points
[05:15] <jussi01> radlipat: this is a kubuntu support channel
[05:15] <bazhang> binskipy2u, stop typing two words and hitting enter please
[05:15] <genii> radlipat: fedora is free but they will never ship you a CD unless you pay them
[05:15] <radlipat> ahhhhhhhhhhh dang well ty anyhow
[05:16] <binskipy2u> so no one knows that command that will lalow me to use my computer and make folders etc in root directory
[05:16] <hong> can someone explain me why there are no virtualbox-ose-modules for my kernel 24.22
[05:16] <bazhang> binskipy2u, also, root password is strongly discouraged; use kdesudo but even then exercise great caution
[05:16] <binskipy2u> xhost something something.. so i dont have to su and then type konqueror
[05:17] <bazhang> binskipy2u, explain on one line what you are trying to accomplish.
[05:17] <radlipat> night all and ty 4 ur help
[05:18] <binskipy2u> EVERYTIME ifve ever installed ubuntu, kubuntu, i sudo passwd root to make a root password
[05:18] <binskipy2u> and in order to use SU to switch to root, id type konqueror or nautilus to have aroot browser to add some folders
[05:18] <jussi01> !supportroot | binskipy2u
[05:18] <binskipy2u> ive always done it, i can NOT remember the command that allows to use
[05:19] <VistaUser> HEY
[05:19] <bazhang> hi
[05:19] <hong> where are the virtual modules for 24.22
[05:19] <binskipy2u> so hywo the hell do you su to root to use a root browser in ubuntu ku8buntu if you cant tell me the command to make it happen
[05:20] <jussi01> binskipy2u: I already told you: kdesudo konqueror
[05:20] <hong> binskipy2u: there is no root as default in *buntu that is so you dont have to remember 2 passwrds
[05:20] <genii> hong: Well, he's gone and changed that
[05:21] <binskipy2u> i'm googling the command to find it....
[05:22] <binskipy2u> i cant findit
[05:22] <bazhang> binskipy2u, jussi01 told you.
[05:22] <jussi01> binskipy2u: you are unnecessarily filling the channel, please use enter more sparingly.
[05:24] <binskipy2u> i found it, xhost +
[05:24] <genii> binskipy2u: We can only offer you support if you use your (k)ubuntu in the manner which it was intended. That is to say, not running as root.
[05:26] <genii> Well that was interesting
[05:33] <PSiL0> !utf
[05:34] <PSiL0> !utf-8
[05:34] <genii> PSiL0: What is it you are trying to find out about UTF-8 ?
[05:35] <PSiL0> I have a few m3u's I from windows that I want to import into amarok
[05:35] <PSiL0> a few files have special characters (latin-1)
[05:35] <PSiL0> these are listed in the m3u
[05:36] <PSiL0> I want to figure out how to convert the m3u => unix
[05:36] <PSiL0> I tried dos2unix without luck
[05:37] <neverendingo> Hello folks, maybe someone has a hint for me. Using gimp2.6.1 on kde4 after the upgrade to 8.10 i no longer have taskbar entries for the toolbox and the layers window. And as i have many windows open it is somehow hard to manage ;) How can i enable the taskbar entries again?
[05:37] <genii> PSiL0: Did you look at this yet? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=70579
[05:38] <PSiL0> genii: interesting.  That might be usefull, but I just want something to convert the troublesome characters listed in the m3u file to utf-8
[05:39] <genii> PSiL0: If you read there, it does from 8859-1 and others to Unicode
[05:40] <genii> PSiL0: eg: "Right clicking on the file and choosing "EncodingConverter" and "Convert to
[05:40] <genii> Unicode" will open a window that shows all relevant tag fields and an encoding
[05:40] <genii> chooser. The encoding guesser will try to find a best match for the given
[05:40] <genii> content "
[05:40]  * genii hides from the floodbot
[05:42] <PSiL0> genii:  http://pastebin.com/m4b56c8b7
[05:42] <genii> Reading
[05:43] <PSiL0> genii:  Amarok goofs when reading the the line where the mp3 is during importing, so it doesn't import the file..
[05:43] <PSiL0> don't worry, I'm going to replace the windows directory stem..
[05:44] <PSiL0> it should import ../Claude Debussy - Clair de Lune (1995)/15 - N° 1.mp3
[05:44] <seektherapy> my package manager will not start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:44] <PSiL0> instead it looks for ../Claude Debussy - Clair de Lune (1995)/15 - N� 1.mp3
[05:44] <seektherapy> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/560
[05:47] <PSiL0> genii: I'll try this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Convert+text+files+to+utf-8?content=21146
[05:47] <VistaUser> hey
[05:57] <PSiL0> genii: anything?
[06:00] <PSiL0> i'll just use this then: seemed to work: iconv -f latin1 -t utf-8 %u -o %u_utf-8
[06:03] <seektherapy> jesus christ there us 259 people in here ...HELLO
[06:08] <sam_> seektherapy: you need any help?
[06:08] <[Relic]> how do you figure out why something would break intall?
[06:08] <[Relic]> install
[06:08] <seektherapy> yes
[06:08] <seektherapy> my package manager will not open
[06:09] <hong> try in konsole to see the error
[06:09] <hong> try in konsole to see the error seektherapy
[06:12] <seektherapy> hold on so i can find my console
[06:12] <seektherapy> i am new
[06:12] <hong> alt+f2 -> konsole
[06:15] <seektherapy> can you give me the command ..pretty please
[06:16] <hong> what command seektherapy
[06:16] <[Relic]> will upgrading to 8.10 get me back to normal w/o the 8.04 dev stuff blocking anything?
[06:16] <sam_> well you can try "apt-get update" for starters
[06:18] <seektherapy> well i can't tell if its doing anything
[06:22] <seektherapy> OMG! this is driving me crazy!!!!!!! ...it keeps disappearing on me
[06:23] <seektherapy> this is exactly why women are not real fond or never heard of linux !
[06:29] <hong> seektherapy: do you have a konsole open?
[06:29] <ulver> :|
[06:29] <seektherapy> i think i do
[06:30] <hong> what package manager are you using seektherapy
[06:30] <seektherapy> you know what ..that right there is my problem.. i think i installed something thats not compatible for this crap
[06:33] <hong1> well if you type the progam name in the konsole and hit <enter> it will start it like clicking on it BUT you will also see the error code if there is a problem seektherapy
[06:33] <seektherapy> well i dont know how
[06:33] <seektherapy> K
[06:35] <hongNam> the konsole is a command line window ... to get there click on start -> system -> konsole or press alt+f2 and type konsole in there
[06:36] <eutychus> hello room
[06:36] <eutychus> sorry for the silly question -- how do i check to see what version of kubuntu is running?
[06:37] <seektherapy> i opened it in this..don't ask me how ..to look at whatever
[06:37] <bazhang> !version
[06:37] <seektherapy> OnlyShowIn=KDE;
[06:37] <seektherapy> TryExec=adept
[06:37] <seektherapy> Exec=adept installer
[06:37] <seektherapy> Terminal=false
[06:37] <seektherapy> Categories=Qt;KDE;Core;
[06:37] <seektherapy> X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true
[06:37] <seektherapy> X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_adept
[06:38] <hongNam> cat /etc/lsb-release eutychus
[06:40] <eutychus> i have 8.o4 but adept wont hilight the upgrade button.
[06:40] <eutychus> how do i upgrade to 8.10?
[06:40] <seektherapy> i found my terminal
[06:40] <seektherapy> whats the upgrade command
[06:40] <hongNam> eutychus: because your sources.list isstill on hardy
[06:41] <eutychus> how do i change the list?
[06:41] <hongNam> apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[06:41] <eutychus> thanx. :)
[06:41] <hongNam> eutychus: that might still show hardy
[06:42] <hongNam> if that is so you might edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all the hardy
[06:42] <hongNam> seektherapy: you try to start adept?
[06:42] <eutychus> yeah. still reading hardy.
[06:43] <hongNam> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <hongNam> and use replace eutychus
[06:43] <eutychus> hehe. i double clicked adept and now they are fighting. old winderz habits die hard.
[06:44] <hongNam> eutychus: you will end up with kde4 so ... be sure your want that
[06:45] <seektherapy> is not known on line 58 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <seektherapy> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[06:45] <hongNam> seektherapy: you can use apt-get to install remove search and so on packages
[06:45] <hongNam> seektherapy: that happens when
[06:46] <hongNam> you do what
[06:47] <hongNam> to read about apt-get ... use the man apt-get command ... or apt-get --help
[06:47] <seektherapy> omg!
[06:47] <eutychus> i get >>Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-eutychus" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 and two similar errors
[06:48] <seektherapy> i want to beat you
[06:50] <jolter> Hello guys! I have a problem with sound.. my sound works fine in vlc,amarok, youtube etc, but when i try to play something in Totem i dont get any sound and when i go to system->prefrences->sound and push the playback button I get this error message audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback
[06:51] <seektherapy>  Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:51] <seektherapy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:53] <hongNam> seektherapy: are you?
[06:53] <eutychus> hongNam, how do i use replace with kate?
[06:53] <hongNam> are you root?
[06:54] <seektherapy> yes i am
[06:54] <hongNam> sure
[06:54] <seektherapy> its my damn machine
[06:54] <hongNam> ?
[06:54] <Evolution2> quick question. i can change my "about me" icon because it says "your admin wont allow you" i am in system settings
[06:54] <hongNam> sudo apt-get
[06:54] <Evolution2> cant*
[06:54] <hongNam> eutychus: check under edit
[06:55] <seektherapy> i did and it gave me the other error
[06:55] <seektherapy> hold on.. it did something
[06:57] <eutychus> hongNam: okay the replace is up... what am i finding and replacing?
[06:58] <seektherapy> This APT has Super Cow Powers.??
[07:01] <serenity> anyone care to help me with a few kubuntu questions?
[07:06] <eutychus> hongNam: sorry for being so slow... what is it that i am finding and replacing in Kate to get the updater to ugrade from 804 to 810?
[07:07] <eutychus> anyone?  what is it that i am finding and replacing in Kate to get the updater to ugrade from 804 to 810?
[07:08] <seektherapy> still doesnt work
[07:13] <vbgunz> wheres the developer channel?
[07:13] <eutychus> anyone know how to get adept to uprade from hardy to ibex?
[07:22] <eutychus> hello?
[07:28] <UbuntuUser> hey
[07:29] <raeez> Hi there, I'm using 8.10 KDE 4.2 Beta - and my kopete has no support for msn
[07:29] <raeez> am I missing something?
[07:35] <zdz> my many application's font is very large,how to modify the fonts size?
[07:58] <eutychus> rehello room
[07:58] <eutychus> i still cant seem to get the updater to update to ibex from heron. the full upgrade button never responds.
[07:58] <Guest46076> why does the command "javascript:history.go(-1)" not work in konqueror on websites? it works in firefox
[08:00] <Guest46076> thats such a basic command!
[08:25] <jdfellow> hello anyone know how to add icons for drives and partitions on kde 4.2 desktop
[08:25] <jdfellow> ???
[08:26] <eagles0513875> !patience
[08:26] <jdfellow> no i was just indicatng that i forgot a question mark
[08:27] <eagles0513875> where do u want to add the icons
[08:27] <eagles0513875> of ur drives etc
[08:27] <jdfellow> yes
[08:27] <eagles0513875> you want them on the desktop
[08:28] <jdfellow> yes please
[08:28] <eagles0513875> not sure about 4.2 but in 4.1.3 just drag and drop
[08:28] <jdfellow> like a widget or something
[08:28] <eagles0513875> i have dragged and dropped and it works that way for me
[08:28] <user17> anybody can help me with usb configuration?
[08:28] <jdfellow> drag from where exactly not the dolphin explorer ?
[08:29] <jdfellow> scuse me im confused
[08:29] <user17> in my /proc/bus/usb there's no devices file...
[08:30] <user17> usb are not recognized
[08:30] <eagles0513875> jdfellow ya from dolphin
[08:30] <atno> !coning
[08:30] <jdfellow> by the way thankyou eagle0513875 for responding : no it wont drag
[08:30] <atno> !cloning
[08:31] <jdfellow> well thanks anyway maybe i am missing something
[08:31] <atno> !automate
[08:32] <jdfellow> good bye
[08:42] <amerigo> !openoffice
[08:43] <eagles0513875> amerigo i would try koffice so much quicker the open office which is super slow i find it
[08:44] <amerigo> eagles0513875: hi...
[08:44] <amerigo> eagles0513875: I have no time to cange Office sistem
[08:45] <amerigo> h
[08:45] <amerigo> y
[08:45] <eagles0513875> amerigo its up to you what you wanna do but i find at least on older hardware its rather tough on the machine
[08:46] <amerigo> eagles0513875: GOOD ... but trouble is that I have a trouble with data base
[08:47] <amerigo> and I can't solve
[08:47] <amerigo> in this moment i can't change
[08:47] <amerigo> but is a good tip
[08:59] <amerigo> eagles0513875: BUT....I have another question for you (or for wha can help me) .... i have a XP on Lan that share folder for Kubuntu ... but if I try to open this folder from konqueror after few second access is denied .... this problem do not exist is i open this shared folder from dolphin ... can I solve this issue?
[09:00] <eagles0513875> amerigo i dunno i kinda have an issue with accessing stuff from linux off a vista machine i cant play audio off of it
[09:01] <eagles0513875> that seems like its a permissions issue
[09:01] <fale> as far as someone knows, kopete4.2b1 is compiled with or without libmsn? (I know that is not present in the reps, but my question is about the compile moment, because if it has been compiled with the libmsn lib is enought put libmsn in a system to make kopete working correctly)
[09:01] <amerigo> i can help you... explane me better your issue
[09:02] <amerigo> eagles0513875: you can't toun off audio on vista?
[09:02] <eagles0513875> no
[09:03] <eagles0513875> i want to play music which is on my vista desktop on my linux laptop in amarok but in amarok it said no something i forgot what the error was
[09:03] <eagles0513875> i drag a song over from my vista box and it plays just fine
[09:04] <amerigo> you would to play a shared folder in VIsta from your Linux box using amarok.... right?
[09:05] <eutychus> rehello room. how do i get adept to upgrade from heron to ibex\
[09:06] <amerigo> format Vista .... :-) go to KUBUNTU
[09:06] <amerigo>  (it's a Joke)
[09:06] <eagles0513875> amerigo im a gmaer thats the only reason i have it otherwise i would already be on kubuntu
[09:07] <eutychus> kubuntu has minesweeper. ;)
[09:07] <eagles0513875> haha i know bout list of free open source games for kubuntu but none of the windows games i like
[09:08] <amerigo> eagles0513875:  a moment i'm looking for
[09:08] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:09] <amerigo> eagles0513875: you ha try to use samba...
[09:09] <amerigo> ?
[09:09] <eagles0513875> yes i have
[09:09] <eagles0513875> still same error
[09:09] <amerigo> folder it's seen...?
[09:09] <amerigo> what error?
[09:09] <eagles0513875> wait i am connected through a router and im wondering if i need the port forwarded
[09:10] <eagles0513875> the error shows up when i play or try to play a song in amarok
[09:11] <eagles0513875> the samba ports are forwarded
[09:11] <eagles0513875> wait
[09:13] <eagles0513875> amerigo its ok for now i am busy wiht other things and should be getting speakers for this desktop soon
[09:13] <christaker> hi! How can i add custom emoticons which send me someone in Kopete? thanks :-)
[09:14] <christaker> msn protocol
[09:14] <amerigo> eagles0513875: good work...
[09:17] <zeth_> I just installed kubuntu as opposed to ubuntu and am wondering about a few things ... first is where is the bluetooth applet?
[09:18] <zeth_> also ... what do i use to install/uninstall packages
[09:18] <zeth_> ?
[09:18] <zeth_> I saw Adept but that seemes inadequate for what I need
[09:19] <zeth_> anyone?
[09:19] <eagles0513875> zeth_ its called kbluetooth i believe
[09:19] <eagles0513875> !bluetooth | zeltak
[09:19] <eagles0513875> zeltak mt bro
[09:19] <eagles0513875> !bluetooth | zeth_
[09:19] <zeltak> yes?
[09:19] <stdin> why is Adept inadequate for you?
[09:19] <eagles0513875> that was a misstype on my part zeltak
[09:19] <zeltak> k np
[09:20] <zeth_> I want to install/uninstall packages ... not whole apps
[09:20] <eagles0513875> zeth_ then use the command line command apt-get remove
[09:20] <stdin> that's what adept does, yes
[09:20] <stdin> it installs packages
[09:20] <stdin> unless you're looking at the "Add/Remove Applications" thing, which is not full Adept
[09:20] <zeth_> well when I search for a specific package it says its not found
[09:21] <stdin> what package?
[09:22] <zeth_> oh hey ... my friend just told me to go to Applications > System > Package Manager
[09:22] <zeth_> cool ... looks more like it
[09:22] <zeth_> why is BT not working out of the box like with Ubuntu?
[09:23] <zeth_> seems odd
[09:23] <zeth_> this link to bluetooth docs is outdated and not what I need
[09:23] <ahmed> hi all
[09:24] <zeth_> where in Kubuntu can i find the BT applet?
[09:28] <zeth_> I must be totally overlooking this BT thing ... where the heck is it?
[09:32] <salim> hello guys and girls
[09:32] <salim> it's my first time that i use the konversation
[09:33] <salim> is there any one who want to speak with me in private, I think it possible
[09:34] <eagles0513875> salim whats your native language if you dont mind me asking
[09:34] <salim> french
[09:34] <eagles0513875> !fr | salim
[09:35] <salim> ok merci
[09:35] <eagles0513875> no problem salim
[09:35] <webas> anyone can help me to work wlan? :)
[09:35] <Guest35504> any one know how to install kde4.1 in ubuntu
[09:35] <salim> et pour aller sur #ubuntu
[09:36] <salim> comment faire
[09:36] <ahmed_> salim
[09:36] <ahmed_> can you tell me
[09:43] <webas> where to find device manager in kubuntu? :) sorry im noob
[09:45] <jillsmitt> why?
[09:45] <jillsmitt> WHY?
[09:45] <eutychus> hello. can anyone help me get adept to list the upgrade from heron to ibex?
[09:45] <jillsmitt> why i cant all night connect on dialup?
[09:45] <jillsmitt> but now i just do it
[09:45] <jillsmitt> with kppp
[09:47] <jillsmitt> in DesktopBSD livecd i can, LFS i can, asp i can, Kubuntu all night sex with my brain...
[09:47] <jillsmitt> or on dialup server linux software must be installed?
[09:47] <stdin> !upgrade | eutychus
[09:47] <jillsmitt> i just want to know...
[09:48] <eutychus> thanx ubottu. :)
[09:49] <eagles0513875> eutychus ubottu = bot
[09:49] <jillsmitt> ) and me too
[09:50] <eagles0513875> !enter | jillsmitt
[09:53] <eutychus> hehe. the bot had the answer i needed. thanx all. bbl.
[10:02] <elwood> !pony
[10:08] <eutychus> rehello room.
[10:09] <eutychus> i must be doing something wrong. i cant get anything that will let me upgrade from heron to ibex.
[10:09] <stdin> !upgrade
[10:09] <eutychus> hehe. i did that. adept will only dl heron ugrades.
[10:09] <jm_> hi all
[10:10] <stdin> eutychus: did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu ?
[10:11] <eutychus> yes. i did what it said, and adept tells me there are no upgrades available, but everything is heron.
[10:12] <stdin> after running "adept_manager --dist-upgrade" ?
[10:12] <stdin> try kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel"
[10:12] <eutychus> yes. nothing happened.
[10:12] <eutychus> k
[10:13] <eutychus> how do i access the run command in kde4?
[10:13] <stdin> alt-f2
[10:13] <eutychus> i think i like the kde3 layout better... lol. thanx
[10:14] <tboxmy> anyone can help kubuntu 8.10 that cant detect a canon digital camera?
[10:14] <tboxmy> it works well on gnome.
[10:15] <eutychus> thanx. the version upgrade button just lit up. :)
[10:15] <eutychus> bbiab.
[10:18] <tboxmy> its a canon A470
[10:18] <tboxmy> when I plug it in, digikam detects as a PTP device
[10:18] <tboxmy> but thats it...I cant access camera
[10:19] <zeth_> ok I rebooted and got this message:
[10:19] <zeth_> Application: KBluetooth4 - The KDE4 Bluetooth Framework (kbluetooth4), signal SIGSEGV
[10:19] <zeth_> Thread 1 (Thread 0xb613d6c0 (LWP 6014)):
[10:19] <zeth_> [KCrash Handler]
[10:19] <zeth_> #6  0x0805b946 in _start ()
[10:19] <zeth_> I am just trying to get bluetooth working ...
[10:20] <loevborg> Can some kind fellow relieve my pain and tell me how to get rid of the audible bell in Konsole permenanetly in hardy?
[10:21] <loevborg> X-Chat already has visual bell, but Konsole keeps forgetting its good manners all the time.
[10:22] <zeth_> I just read somewhere that Kubuntu 8.10 does not support bluetooth!!! How can that be?
[10:22] <zeth_> its got to be bad info .. right?
[10:23] <eagles0513875> yes zeth_
[10:23] <eagles0513875> !pastebin | zeth_
[10:23] <eagles0513875> !info bluetooth
[10:23] <eagles0513875> zeth_  it does exists where ever u read that they are super wrong
[10:25] <zeth_> well its in the release notes
[10:26] <zeth_> look it says it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#Kubuntu%2520Bluetooth%2520support
[10:26] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: zeth_: bluetooth is not supported in KDE4 gui
[10:26] <Tm_T> but bluetooth is supported, if you know how to use it without KDE4 gui, yes
[10:26] <zeth_> Bluetooth is not supported in Kubuntu 8.10 because KDE does not yet support the bluez 4.x stack required for compatibility with the kernel used in 8.10. A fix for this is being evaluated as a post-release update.
[10:27] <zeth_> what do you mean "use it without the KDE4 GUI"?
[10:27] <Tm_T> zeth_: commandline tools
[10:27] <zeth_> you mean terminal and stuff?
[10:27] <zeth_> awwwwwww
[10:27] <Tm_T> yes
[10:27] <Tm_T> and FYI that is getting fixed, slowly, but not yet
[10:27] <zeth_> what the ....
[10:27] <zeth_> seems like someone forgot to tie their shoes ... shucks
[10:28] <amerigo> ! openoffice italiano
[10:28] <amerigo> ! openoffice.it
[10:28] <amerigo> ! openoffice it
[10:28] <zeth_> well is there a simple how-to on getting BT to work without the GUI tools?
[10:29] <amerigo> there's a channel to speach of openoffice in italian?
[10:30] <zeth_> ahhh ... someone is saying to install bluez-gnome
[10:30] <zeth_> seems KDE cannot stand on its own two feet yet .... :0
[10:35] <Tm_T> zeth_: the bluetooth author did gnome part but left KDE side alone, so, we obviously drag behind
[10:36] <zeth_> yeah
[10:36] <webas> how to update kernel? anyone can give me a hint?
[10:37] <zeth_> bluez-gnome works great
[10:37] <zeth_> :)
[10:38] <zeth_> how do I get wobbly windows and all that compiz stuff going in Kubuntu?
[10:39] <zeth_> where do I go to add things I want to start up at login?
[10:41] <tboxmy> wow....bluetooth problems!
[10:42] <zeth_> you too?
[10:42] <zeth_> does Kopete no longer support MSN?
[10:43] <SlimeyPete> zeth_: kopete MSN support periodically dies when MS update the protocol
[10:45] <zeth_> ok
[10:45] <zeth_> what about getting apps to startup at login?
[10:47] <zeth_> gosh my Yahoo won't even sign in
[10:51] <vge> has someone done "minimize windows" in KDE instead of "Show Desktop" allready?
[10:57] <jm_> in the new 4.1.3 can we hide the taskbar :)
[11:15] <tkstka> ok so I have this usb 2.0 500g harddrive
[11:15] <delicowa> g'day people
[11:15] <sourcemaker> how can I configure the window position of yakuake? (screen-center)
[11:16] <tkstka> wait I figured it out
[11:19] <delicowa> i have been to the cedega website and there seems to be nothing that interesting do i really have to pay for it
[11:29] <tkstka> I cant access my harddrive
[11:30] <tkstka> I know one partition is broken but and the other has very important information
[11:30] <tkstka> now I tried to install ntfs-config
[11:30] <ScorpKing> delicowa: try wine first and take a took at ReactOS before you buy it. maybe one of them can run your games
[11:30] <tkstka> but I still cant seem to open
[11:30] <tkstka> need help
[11:31] <ScorpKing> delicowa: before you buy cedega that is btw
[11:31] <ScorpKing> tkstka: can you mount it from konsole?
[11:32] <tkstka> I did it once before but I dont remember what I wrote
[11:32] <tkstka> I tried to google
[11:32] <tkstka> but I suck
[11:32] <tkstka> so I was hoping for someone to paste it here
[11:33] <ScorpKing> tkstka: what disk and partition is it? /dev/<?>
[11:33] <tkstka> ntfs
[11:33] <KiDFlaSh> hi
[11:33] <KiDFlaSh> how can i use unstable for ubuntu?
[11:33] <tkstka> sdb
[11:34] <KiDFlaSh> dsb?
[11:34] <KiDFlaSh> :B
[11:34] <tkstka> /dev/sdb
[11:34] <KiDFlaSh> how can i use unstable?
[11:34] <tkstka> dont ask me I suck
[11:34] <tkstka> :D
[11:35] <KiDFlaSh> apachelogger: how can i use, unstable repo?
[11:38] <val_> when i run a video all the time flashes while playing how can i fix it?
[11:39] <delicowa> scorpking : i use wine and it runs some of my games perfectly but i have troubles playing my best race game NFSC and google told me cedega will run it perfectly
[11:41] <ScorpKing> delicowa: ah ok. if you're sure it will run then go for it :)
[11:41] <tkstka> how do I force the mount?
[11:42] <tkstka> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o force nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:42] <tkstka> ?
[11:42] <tkstka> is that right
[11:42] <tkstka> I dont know what that nls=utf8 is
[11:42] <tkstka> or unmask
[11:43] <val_> how can i download amarok 2
[11:43] <val_> ?
[11:43] <bazhang> val_, you need to install from a ppa
[11:44] <bazhang> val_, it is beta so you use at your own risk
[11:44] <ScorpKing> tkstka: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o force - will do
[11:45] <bazhang> val_, please keep in channel
[11:46] <bazhang> !ppa | val_
[11:47] <bazhang> val_, check the kubuntu.org homepage
[11:48] <KiDFlaSh> !unstable
[11:48] <KiDFlaSh> !unstablerepo
[11:48] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, ??
[11:49] <KiDFlaSh> i want unstable repo
[11:49] <KiDFlaSh> :B
[11:49] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[11:49] <KiDFlaSh> its not FUN
[11:50] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, there is no unstable repo
[11:50] <tkstka> hmm is there away to clone my hard drive to another harddrive and my music wont get damaged.. I dont know but I sucpect that there is fragture in the harddrive
[11:50] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, this is not debian
[11:50] <tkstka> it's very important to me to save those songs
[11:50] <KiDFlaSh> but der is pre released
[11:50] <KiDFlaSh> there
[11:50] <KiDFlaSh> thats something like that ?
[11:50] <val_> why every time play a video flashes all the time any help?
[11:51] <ScorpKing> tkstka: install dd-rescue and use that to clone your disk
[11:51] <bazhang> val_, compiz on or off
[11:51] <KiDFlaSh> is that something like that?
[11:51] <KiDFlaSh> Pre Released repo
[11:52] <bazhang> val_, please dont PM; speak in the channel thanks.
[11:53] <val_> i dont know how i speak to you
[11:53] <val_> i click and goes to a wingow
[11:53] <bazhang> val_, you speak to the channel, if someone knows they will answer
[11:53] <tkstka> scorpionking sudo apt-get install dd-rescue
[11:53] <tkstka> didnt work
[11:54] <tkstka> are you sure about the name
[11:54] <val_> ok
[11:56] <val_> what is distro?
[11:56] <elwood> hi all
[12:10] <val_> why every time play a video flashes all the time any help?
[12:15] <doc___> hi there
[12:32] <tkstka> sudo apt-get install dd-rescue  didnt work... is the name different?
[12:33] <Andrew``> can anyone tell me about syncing repositories??
[12:34] <Andrew``> am new to kubuntu
[12:34] <tyfon> Andrew``: do you want to mirror it locally or just update what packs are ther?
[12:35] <Andrew``> I want to find the kaudiocreator package through adept or synaptic
[12:35] <Andrew``> and was told maybe thats my problem
[12:35] <stdin> Andrew``: that package doesn't exist in intrepid
[12:35] <Andrew``> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84319/
[12:36] <Andrew``> ok
[12:36] <Andrew``> how do I get it then?
[12:36] <stdin> you'll have to find the source and compile it
[12:36] <Andrew``> I want to be able to roip CD's at 256 or better bitrate
[12:36] <Andrew``> ok.. is there a website that I can go to for help in compiling
[12:36] <Andrew``> ?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Hmmm.. I thought one ripped cd's at the rate the wave files were in.. and then you reencoded to flac/mp3/whatever at a different rate
[12:37] <stdin> actually, you can't compile it easily, it needs kdemultimedia-kio-plugins from KDE3
[12:38] <Andrew``> maybe you can help maybe with 'lame' commands?
[12:39] <stdin> Andrew``: install kdemultimedia-kio-plugins and use System Settings -> Advanced -> Audio CD to set the bitrate. then go to audiocd:/ in dolphin/konqueror and rip away
[12:39] <dr_willis> I tend to just use GRIP to encode audio cd's to mp3 or flac or whatever...
[12:40] <eagles0513875> !okulus
[12:40] <eagles0513875> !oculus
[12:40] <eagles0513875> !pdf
[12:41] <stdin> eagles0513875: okular
[12:42] <Andrew``> ok dr_willis  so you can help me with grip then?
[12:43] <eagles0513875> ty stdin
[12:43] <dr_willis> Andrew``,  install it. use it.. its rather straight forwared..
[12:44] <dr_willis> Its can be configured to use any of several encoders, and  has gui settings for them all.
[12:44] <stdin> !pdf ~= ,kpdf,kpdf/okular,
[12:44] <Andrew``> its installed
[12:44] <Andrew``> have it open
[12:45] <Andrew``> it gives me an error about the path for the executable
[12:45] <Andrew``> dont know how to fix it
[12:45] <ScorpKing> where can i find the menu icon in kde4?
[12:46] <dr_willis> Andrew``,  path to what executable?
[12:46] <dr_willis> Andrew``,  you may need to install the various 'backend' tools it uses.  not all are installed for it as dependencies
[12:46] <Andrew``> encoder executable
[12:48] <Andrew``> is there a log file that gives me the ability to copy and paste it?
[12:49] <dr_willis> No idea.  if you run many apps from a terminal  they print messages there.
[12:49] <dr_willis> Its very likely grip is defaulting to some encoder you do Not have installed.. and thus you need to check the config tabs and isntall/configure it.
[12:49] <dr_willis> http://nostatic.org/grip/doc/ar01s04.html#mp3config
[12:49] <Andrew``> it opens fine.. just when I hit rip  and encode it gives me that error
[12:50] <dr_willis> sounds like you have it set to use an encoder thats not installed....
[12:50] <stdin> ScorpKing: /usr/share/icons/oxygen/*/apps/kde.png
[12:50] <ScorpKing> stdin: ah :) do you know what size is used for the menu?
[12:51] <stdin> I guess it depends on the size if the panel, but I think 32x32
[12:52] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks i'll give it a try
[12:57] <mjobin> Hi
[12:57] <wet> hi
[12:57] <dr_willis> Moo!
[12:57] <mjobin> can I install KDE 4.1.80 and Koffice 2 beta unde Kubuntu 8.04 or I HAVE TO upgrade to 8.10 ?
[12:58] <wet>  dosen't matter whether 8.04 or 8.10
[12:58] <mjobin> why, I can't find it in adept then?
[13:04] <mjobin> wet: maybe I should precise that I wish to use the already compiled package provided by kubuntu
[13:07] <stdin> mjobin: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[13:14] <mjobin> stdin: I visited this page before. I got confused because they were only mentionning about 8.10 ... so I thought I had to upgrade
[13:14] <mjobin> thanks
[13:16] <stdin> mjobin: it is only available for intrepid (8.10), hardy (8.04) doesn't have the correct libraries to run KDE 4.2 beta 1
[13:17] <mjobin> will i be able to keep my 3.5.10 install though?
[13:17] <mjobin> oh... I see
[13:17] <mjobin> wet earlier, said it did not matter....
[13:18] <mjobin> so I do need to upgrade....
[13:18] <stdin> if you want to run the beta, yes
[13:19] <mjobin> and I wont be able to keep kde 3.5 side by side, will i ?
[13:20] <stdin> no
[13:21] <Lektroluv> What to do when I get a screeninit failure when installing Ubuntu with Virtual PC 2007?
[13:21] <Lektroluv> Or Kubuntu
[13:22] <Lektroluv> Same failures
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: boot to failsafe and read dmesg
[13:25] <Lektroluv> thank you, but how do I do this?
[13:26] <Lektroluv> I haven't installed Ubuntu yet...
[13:27] <Lektroluv> Kubuntu in this case
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: boot, pres esc when grub offers, choose root console
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: if you havent installed it i'm guesing your media is bad. did you md5 check the image?
[13:28] <mjobin> stdin: thanks
[13:28] <Lektroluv> I've downloaded Ubuntu yesterday and Kubuntu today
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: did you check the iso as well as check the cd when it first boots
[13:29] <Lektroluv> no how can I check this
[13:29] <Lektroluv> with check cd for defects?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[13:31] <Lektroluv> how can I md5 cechck the image?
[13:34] <atno> !automated
[13:34] <atno> !automate
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: ubottu gave you the links on how to test  them, you should test ALL iso files you download for consistancy. Especially something like an operating system
[13:41] <setcom> help
[13:44] <pedro> oi
[13:45] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, md5sum: ./casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop: No such file or directory
[13:47] <marty__> hi...  i made a new hd install on my laptop... when i start kubuntu the intro interrupt after 1sec... how can i fix this problem?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: read the guides
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Lektroluv
[13:49] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, Make sure that when you download the CD iso to download the md5sum and place it in the same directory.
[13:49] <marty__> any support.. in here about my problem?
[13:49] <Lektroluv> where do I download md5Sum?
[13:49] <Lektroluv> of the iso
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: same place you ot the iso, the ubuntu servers
[13:51] <Lektroluv> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download???
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: http://whyamistilltyping.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-md5-checksums/
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: calculate the md5sum of the iage then compare it to those. You *NEED* a 100% match or the image is not usable
[13:58] <Lektroluv> MD5 checksums are the same
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: ok, boot the cd and run the cd tester there
[14:01] <Lektroluv> no errors found
[14:01] <Andrew``> ok I have installed grip, set the encoder oto lame and pointed it in the right direction... told it to rip and encode to MP3 .. it did a few things... but the MP3 file it created was empty... can anyone tell me why this happened?
[14:03] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, ok now I get Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode
[14:03] <Dolo> how do u delete apps from the start menu
[14:04] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: well you havent installed anything or configured anything
[14:06] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, use default generic configuration OR create new configuration for this hardware OR use backed up conf
[14:06] <Lektroluv> ??
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: i'd try for the hardware. Ive not used this virtual pc stuff
[14:07] <atno> hello
[14:08] <atno> im trying to install kubuntu in 16 computers
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: as the hardware isnt native so im unsure, you'll have to read the manual for your virtualisation. Works fine in virtualbox
[14:08] <atno> isnt there an "easier" more understandable way to do it
[14:08] <atno> im trying the !automate solution
[14:08] <atno> but its a bit confusing for me
[14:09] <mjobin> atno: bcfg2
[14:11] <atno> mjobin: thank you :)
[14:12] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, I think I can see the problem, as I reconfigure the display it saves this temp file and asks to reboot. But when I reboot using Virtual Pc it loses all saved files...
[14:13] <Lektroluv> I'm now installing virtualbox
[14:14] <Lektroluv> any experience with vnware?
[14:14] <Lektroluv> vmware
[14:15] <snarkster> good morning.. running kde 4.2 beta on my laptop.. takes dolphin about 1 min to open and other sundry things not working well.. ran dolphin from konsole and got this response:<unknown program name>(6528)/: Communication problem with  "dolphin" , it probably crashed.
[14:15] <snarkster> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possiblecauses include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
[14:16] <snarkster> what is going on on my box?
[14:16] <snarkster> dolphin is now open
[14:17] <comedit> my screen goes greyish at random (I think) but systemsettings is not strting up so i cannot see what setting it is
[14:18] <comedit> anybody an idea how to check why systemsettings is not starting up
[14:18] <snarkster> maybe not installed?
[14:19] <comedit> it was working before
[14:20] <comedit> i will check if it was removed by accident
[14:23] <comedit> was not removed but i reinstalled still not running
[14:25] <comedit> the menu says this command: systemsettings -caption "%c" %i
[14:25] <comedit> is that ok for kubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:27] <Lektroluv> ActionParsnip, thanks now succesfully installing Ubuntu
[14:28] <Lektroluv> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: sweet
[14:28] <ikonia> the desktop
[14:28] <ikonia> Lektroluv: one is kde one is gnome
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: kubuntu uses kde + kwin
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: ubuntu uses metacity + gnome
[14:28] <snarkster> comedit what happens when you type systemsettings in a terminal
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: you can install gnome / kde on either to your own tastes
[14:28] <Lektroluv> at school we use slackware
[14:29] <Lektroluv> so wich one should i chose
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: not used it myself but ive heard good things
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: try and see which you like
[14:29] <Lektroluv> ok thanks
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: if you hit up www.distrowatch.org
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: you will see the multitude of linux distros
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Lektroluv: there is more than ubuntu :D
[14:30] <snarkster> ALOT more
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> I persnoally like mandriva and gentoo
[14:32] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <3
[14:32] <Lektroluv> I' will just use it to learn more at command typing and programming
[14:33] <comedit> snarkster: i am back i wil check
[14:34] <comedit> snarkster: it starts
[14:35] <snarkster> so if you enter system settings in a terminal it works, but not from the launcher
[14:35] <snarkster> hmm right down the command and then edit it using just systemsettings
[14:36] <snarkster> i bought this awesome laptop and it has an intel video card in it... NONE of the game I wanna play work worth a crud
[14:36] <comedit> yes i will do
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: depends on the spec and what video card is
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: but onboard intel stuff usually sucks for games imho
[14:44] <snarkster> ah you want info.. let me get that for you
[14:44] <snarkster> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: lspci | grep -i vga
[14:45] <snarkster> no wonder i got such a smoking deal on this machine.. bah I should have paid the extra 200 for Nvidia
[14:49] <dereine> hi
[14:49] <dereine> is there a link to the kde4.2 sources?
[14:49] <snarkster> kde.org
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/x60_intrepid.html
[14:51] <snarkster> thanx, but i dont have a thinkpad.. I have an Acer Aspire 6930
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: doesnt matter what its in, its a mobile 4 intel gfx chip
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: just look at the gfx section
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=946035
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: i think it will use the "intel" driver but you could also try the "i810" driver
[14:56] <genii> snarkster: Pleased say what: lspci -nn    says for that card. This gives us the vendor:device    code which can be useful in finding the driver
[14:57] <snarkster> here ya go: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[14:57] <snarkster> and it appears to be using the i915 driver.
[14:58] <snarkster> well thats what lsmod shows.
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: cool, should be ok then
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: what do you get from: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[14:59] <genii> Yes, i915 should be correct driver
[15:00] <snarkster> direct rendering: Yes
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: you have a score then
[15:00] <snarkster> yah me i scored.. LOL
[15:00] <snarkster> still wont play EVE,
[15:00] <snarkster> says I have a tugstun graphics card.
[15:02] <dresnu> hello, does anyone know what happened to kaffeine? After the latest update, which I saw that involved kaffeine, i don't seem to have a kaffeine executable even though its package is installed
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: is that via wine?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9971
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> snarkster: you need some extra config for EVE
[15:06] <gambix> hi
[15:06] <gambix> i need some help on develloppement with glib
[15:07] <gambix> it seem that the glib2-dev is broken
[15:07] <gambix> an idea ?
[15:07] <genii> gambix: You might want #kubuntu-devel
[15:07] <gambix> why genii ?
[15:07] <gambix> oki i understand
[15:07] <val_> hello to all
[15:07] <genii> gambix: Because thats the channel for kubuntu development :)
[15:08] <val_> how i install a screensaver kde4
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> val_: apt-cache search screensaver
[15:09] <val_> i have downloadd one and i want to install it
[15:09] <dresnu> sorry but am I the only one having problems with kaffeine?
[15:09] <val_> finishes eith .tar
[15:10] <val_> file extension  .tar
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> val_: tar xvf <tar file>
[15:13] <genii> dresnu: You could try something like:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine
[15:22] <v6lur> what package do i have to install to make qt4 apps (e.g. speedcrunch) look nice? (on hardy)
[15:22] <v6lur> they have awful gray "rectangles" for buttons now :(
[15:29] <snarkster> is there a kde app like photobooth
[15:29] <snarkster> i dint think Ive seen a single webcam app for kde.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !webcam
[15:31] <cuznt> is there a command to list my o/s version ?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: lsb_release -a
[15:31] <cuznt> thank you action
[15:32] <cuznt> !lsb
[15:37] <eutychus> rehello room. thanx for your help. everything finally upgraded to 8.10.
[15:38] <v6lur> what package do i have to install to make qt4 apps (e.g. speedcrunch) look nice? (on hardy)
[15:38]  * eutychus waves and head out the door...
[15:43] <DreadKnight> hello, i was wondering if wireless works in intrepid (kubuntu) atm
[15:44] <snarkster> yes works perfectly
[15:46] <DaSkreech> For some definition of perfect
[15:46] <DaSkreech> (not a defintion you find in books that give definitions)
[15:47] <stdin> it depends on your hardware/driver combo
[15:48] <DreadKnight> anyone having Plantronics Pulsar 590A or some similar bluetooth headphones? :D
[15:54] <snarkster> smoke break.. ttyl
[15:55] <Schubi_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory <-- does someone know how to fix this?
[15:57] <maxo> does anyone know where amarok2 stores its config files?
[15:57] <stdin> ~/.amarok-nightly/
[15:58] <DaSkreech> Amarok 2 proper uses the nightly folder ?
[15:58] <maxo> I don't have that folder
[15:58] <stdin> what do you mean "proper"?
[15:59] <DaSkreech> stdin: The final release of Amarok 2
[15:59] <maxo> basically my issue is I'm trying to import all my amarok 1.4 settings and playlists into 2.0 but I don't know how to
[15:59] <DaSkreech> It's on http://kubuntu.org
[15:59] <DaSkreech> maxo: I doubt all your settings will carry over
[15:59] <stdin> DaSkreech: I guess it depends what we told it to use
[16:00] <mjobin> anyone here would be kind enough to build me this kate plugin ? http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Text-Editing-Processing/Filters/kate-treeview-plugin-37755.shtml
[16:01] <maxo> but the playlists in amarok 1.4 are just m3u files, surely they can be imported
[16:01] <maxo> and what about all my collection ratings?
[16:01] <stdin> it'll probably import your old setting from the KDE3 version
[16:02] <maxo> it hasn't imported any playlists
[16:02] <maxo> and I had a dynamic playlist that listed all rated tracks, and there doesn't seem to be a way of reproducing that
[16:03] <stdin> maxo: #amarok is the place to ask
[16:12] <eagles051387> i am having a super interesting issue with konqueror in intrepid i have been using apt-build to build my programs and optimize them for me but everything seems to work. im over at someones house using a wired connection and im unable to get access to gmail or even gogle sometimes
[16:12] <eagles051387> the connection keeps getting refused is this an issue on my end or on isp end
[16:12] <eagles051387> or is this iptables acting up
[16:19] <genii> eagles0513875: I'd suspect ISP if your connection at home works fine
[16:19] <eagles0513875> ok genii
[16:19] <genii> eagles0513875: Maybe try  release/renew IP
[16:19] <romain_> vous parlez francais ?
[16:19] <eagles0513875> genii:  how would i do that with ubuntu
[16:20] <genii> romain_:  /j #kubuntu-fr    or:    /j #ubuntu-fr
[16:20] <romain_> thank you
[16:20] <genii> eagles0513875: If adapter is eth0 for instance.     sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0
[16:20] <genii> romain_: You're welcome
[16:21] <eagles0513875> genii:  whats funny is im on irc
[16:21] <eagles0513875> and i was able to get to yahoo
[16:23] <genii> eagles0513875: So is it saying "connection refused"  for particular sites or so?
[16:23] <eagles0513875> seems like gmail and google
[16:23] <stdin> are you in China? ;)
[16:24] <eagles0513875> me no
[16:24] <jennifer> hi, I am a newbie that needs to get my wireless card working with kubuntu 8.04
[16:24] <eagles0513875> !wireless
[16:24] <jennifer> can anyone help me?
[16:24] <eagles0513875> see above jen
[16:24] <jennifer> the forums are over my head
[16:24] <jennifer> I havent tried that one
[16:25] <jennifer> thank you
[16:25] <genii> eagles0513875: Hm. Might be data stored in your browser cache doesn't auth right if you are now on different external IP or so
[16:25] <genii> passwords, etc etc
[16:25] <eagles0513875> cleared it
[16:26] <genii> eagles0513875: No other ideas come immediately to mind
[16:27] <eagles0513875> O_o ok
[16:29] <eagles0513875> genii:  would restarting the netowrkign script help any
[16:30] <genii> eagles0513875: Probably not, but you could try it if it makes you feel better :)
[16:30] <eagles0513875> genii:  :)
[16:33] <eagles0513875> jennifer: did that help any
[16:34] <jennifer> Well, I have an air card and I think that might be different
[16:35] <eagles0513875> jennifer:  whose the manufacturer
[16:35] <jennifer> it works on cellular towers rather than wifi
[16:35] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[16:35] <eagles0513875> is this a pcmcia card
[16:35] <jennifer> well, its a Sprint  Merlin S620
[16:35] <eagles0513875> is it built in card or an external one that goes into your pcmcia slot
[16:36] <jennifer> pcmcia
[16:36] <eagles0513875> did you just insert the card cuz i had a similar problem with a normal wifi card
[16:36] <eagles0513875> would have to reboot with it in the slot already for it to work
[16:37] <jennifer> yes I just inserted it and my laptop doesnt even know its there
[16:37] <eagles0513875> jennifer:  then try a reboot
[16:37] <eagles0513875> and let me know if that does or doesnt do the trick
[16:37] <jennifer> ok, I will do it now then
[16:37] <jennifer> sure will
[16:37] <jennifer> thanks
[16:37] <eagles0513875> no prob thats what we are here for
[16:38] <eagles0513875> genii:  no google seems to work and i can search
[16:38] <eagles0513875> cant get to gmail though
[16:43] <Schubi_> can someone help me with my ati 1650pro AGP? :x
[16:44] <eagles0513875> Schubi_: just ask or put forward your issue and if someone knows they will help
[16:46] <bitripper> the controling in firefox is very very slow
[16:46] <Schubi_> i use the "ati" driver right now, if i edit my xorg.cong to use xglrx the screen freezes at the spash screen after i log in
[16:46] <bitripper>  entering text is very slow
[16:46] <bitripper>  i have to wait about 5 seconds to open the context menue with right click
[16:46] <Schubi_> http://nopaste.ch/5b5c1af129691ff.html <-- line 150
[16:46] <bitripper> switching between tabs takes very long
[16:47] <Schubi_> i already tried to use the driver from the amd hp and the one from adept but i failed at both :x
[16:48] <eagles0513875> Schubi_:  check jockey which will list any proprietary drivers for certain hardware
[16:48] <eagles0513875> !jockey
[16:49] <eagles0513875> !info jockey-kde
[16:51] <jennifer> haaaa, it worked
[16:52] <Schubi_> the ati driver is activated
[16:52] <jennifer> after the reboot, it asked me if I wanted to install the drivers for the card
[16:52] <jennifer> simple as that
[16:52] <bitripper> does anyone knows the problem with firefox3?
[16:53] <jennifer> I'm on the net in about 1 minute
[16:54] <jennifer> thank you
[16:56] <g-hennux> hi!
[16:56] <g-hennux> the kaffeine executable just disappeared from my kaffeine package...
[16:57] <g-hennux> kubuntu 8.10
[16:57] <g-hennux> why is that?
[16:58] <genii> g-hennux: : You could try something like:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine
[16:58] <g-hennux> genii: i did, purged and reinstalled, the /usr/bin/kaffeine is simply not in that package any more, it seems
[16:59] <genii> g-hennux: Well, I'm not sure if kaffeine has been ported yet to kde4
[17:00] <g-hennux> genii: it worked until i just apt-get updated and dist-upgraded half an hour ago
[17:01] <g-hennux> genii: http://pastebin.com/d32069b00
[17:03] <g-hennux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kaffeine/+bug/307175/+viewstatus
[17:03] <g-hennux> (though i'm not on amd64)
[17:05] <g-hennux> and this is not even the version mentioned in the bug
[17:07] <tyfon> hmm anyone else have problems retaining settings of kde programs after enableing backports?
[17:07] <eagles0513875> tyfon: im not
[17:07] <eagles0513875> and i enabled them this am
[17:07] <tyfon> it losses all settings from all kde applicatins here every time i reboot :o
[17:07] <eagles0513875> how can i blacklist ipv6
[17:07] <eagles0513875> tyfon: :(
[17:07] <eagles0513875> tyfon: try asking in #kde
[17:07] <tyfon> well no problem really my laptop is for testing anyway
[17:07] <eagles0513875> tyfon: try out apt-build
[17:07] <tyfon> just gonna reinstall ;)
[17:08] <eagles0513875> !info apt-build | tyfon
[17:08] <eagles0513875> tyfon:  its really sped up my system
[17:08] <tyfon> hmm
[17:08] <tyfon> oh cool
[17:08] <tyfon> ah it works like gentoo? :P
[17:09] <tyfon> i'll check it out
[17:10] <stiago13> ey
[17:10] <stiago13> can someone help me install basketnotes
[17:10] <stiago13> apparentely im missing the libraries
[17:13] <genii> AFK a while, work requires me extended period.
[17:13] <stiago13> anyone help out?
[17:14] <eagles0513875> !patience | stiago13
[17:14] <stiago13> im sorry
[17:15] <eagles0513875> stiago13: its not you bro i dont know how or what you want to install is
[17:15] <eagles0513875> !info basketnotes
[17:15] <eagles0513875> !basketnotes
[17:16] <Elijah_Frost> Any good HTML editors/designers other than Quanta?
[17:16] <Elijah_Frost> For KDE ofc
[17:17] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: the package name is just basket
[17:17] <stiago13> sorry
[17:17] <stiago13> i might have acted pretty bad
[17:17] <stiago13> im new to linux
[17:17] <stiago13> im running kubuntu on my laptop
[17:18] <olimpico> Wow, I just made an "apt-get dist-upgrade" on my kubuntu 8.10, a new kernel was installed and required restart. Amazingly I get now while trying to boot: Kernel panic - not syncing: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[17:18] <stiago13> and i donwloaded this program called basketnotes
[17:18] <Mamarok> stiago13: no, you didn't act bad :)
[17:18] <stiago13> similar to microsoft onenote
[17:18] <eagles0513875> !info basket
[17:18] <stiago13> i reaseearched how to install it
[17:18] <eagles0513875> i gotta install that
[17:18] <stiago13> i ran the shell script
[17:18] <stiago13> but it said i was missing libraries
[17:18] <stiago13> so im pretty confused now
[17:18] <Mamarok> stiago13: the package name is basket, not basketnotes
[17:18] <eagles0513875> stiago13: how come you dont remove what u got and get the one out of the repository
[17:18] <olimpico> I can't believe this, something like that never happened to me before with Kubuntu
[17:19] <stiago13> can you teach the basics on installing applications in kubuntu
[17:19] <stiago13> i downloaded the pack from the website
[17:19] <Mamarok> olimpico: file a bug aginst that kernel, they must have made packaging errors
[17:19] <stiago13> and ran the shellscript
[17:19] <stiago13> but ya.. missing libraries
[17:19] <Mamarok> stiago13: basically, one does install packages from the repositories via a package manager
[17:19] <Mamarok> in Kubuntu you can either use "adept"
[17:19] <eagles0513875> its much easier then what you are trying to do
[17:20] <stiago13> could you guys teach me that?
[17:20] <stiago13> or tell me where i can find info on it
[17:20] <stiago13> either would be good
[17:20] <Mamarok> or type sudo apt-get install "packagename" in the command line
[17:20] <stiago13> im totally new to linux
[17:20] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: if you dont mind im gonna leave that in your hands cuz im busy at the moment
[17:20] <Mamarok> stiago13: read what I just posted
[17:20] <stiago13> oh ok
[17:20] <stiago13> i will try
[17:20] <stiago13> obviously i need internet connection ya?
[17:20] <Mamarok> stiago13: of course :)
[17:21] <Mamarok> stiago13: how did you install Kubuntu?
[17:21] <christ> morning
[17:21] <christ> can anybody see this? http://pastebin.com/m480c279
[17:21] <stiago13> i installed it in a partition off a livecd
[17:21] <stiago13> why?
[17:21] <stiago13> hey i tried that command line
[17:21] <stiago13> it said access denied, and asked if i was root :S
[17:22] <stiago13> then i replied yes
[17:22] <Mamarok> stiago13: you isntalled from a live CD in a free partition you mkean :)
[17:22] <stiago13> and it just printed a huge line of "y"s
[17:22] <Mamarok> *mean
[17:22] <stiago13> yup
[17:22] <Mamarok> stiago13: your "y" must be stuck :)
[17:22] <stiago13> :P
[17:23] <stiago13> anyway.. it said access denied when i tiped apt-get install basket
[17:23] <Mamarok> stiago13: you must type "sudo apt-get install basket"
[17:23] <stiago13> i did
[17:23] <Mamarok> the sudo command asks you then your password
[17:23] <stiago13> oh
[17:23] <stiago13> sudo
[17:23] <stiago13> ya ya
[17:23] <stiago13> sorry
[17:24] <stiago13> couldnt find package basket
[17:24] <stiago13> :/
[17:24] <eagles0513875> !info basket
[17:24] <Mamarok> stiago13: this means you don't have the necessary repository activated I guess
[17:24] <stiago13> and that means...
[17:24] <Mamarok> stiago13: what version of KDE do you use?
[17:25] <stiago13> latest
[17:25] <stiago13> that came with kubuntu 8.10
[17:25] <stiago13> 4.2 im guessing
[17:25] <Mamarok> ok, so KDE 4.1.3
[17:25] <stiago13> or that
[17:25] <Mamarok> stiago13: 4.2 is not released yet
[17:25] <stiago13> im sorry
[17:25] <Mamarok> stiago13: can you check if you have the adept package installed plz? Type sudo adept
[17:26] <stiago13> ok
[17:26] <stiago13> weird
[17:26] <stiago13> it opened up an application
[17:26] <stiago13> named adept
[17:26] <stiago13> however
[17:26] <Mamarok> stiago13: good :)
[17:26] <stiago13> on the konsole
[17:26] <stiago13> it showed lots of errors
[17:26] <Mamarok> that's what I wanted you to do, don't look at the konsole output
[17:27] <stiago13> error "random directory" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[17:27] <stiago13> just mentioning
[17:27] <Mamarok> stiago13: did you install another linux distro before Kubuntu?
[17:27] <stiago13> hmmm
[17:27] <stiago13> i got windows xp on half my partition
[17:27] <stiago13> and then installed kubuntu on the other half
[17:27] <Mamarok> stiago13: ok, never mind
[17:27] <Mamarok> go in the adept window
[17:28] <stiago13> one sec though
[17:28] <stiago13> what would those errors be?
[17:28] <stiago13> just so i understand
[17:28] <stiago13> if you dontmind
[17:28] <Mamarok> stiago13: don't look at the errors in the konsole, they are of no use to you, I assure you!
[17:28] <Mamarok> go to the adept window please
[17:28] <stiago13> nothing big?
[17:28] <stiago13> allrite
[17:28] <stiago13> sorry
[17:28] <stiago13> carry on please
[17:29] <Mamarok> you click on the blue glope on the top left
[17:29] <Mamarok> *globe
[17:29] <stiago13> sources?
[17:29] <stiago13> done
[17:29] <Mamarok> exactly
[17:29] <Mamarok> then click on "Edit Sofware Ssources"
[17:30] <Mamarok> Software even :)
[17:30] <stiago13> software even?
[17:30] <Mamarok> stiago13: just a typo
[17:31] <Mamarok> stiago13: did you click on the "Edit Software Sources" button in the middle?
[17:31] <stiago13> yup
[17:31] <Mamarok> ok, so now you can see which repositoreis are activated, you should have activated al except the source code button
[17:31] <stiago13> ya
[17:32] <Mamarok> so you have all four activated?
[17:32] <stiago13> yup
[17:32] <stiago13> should i change the download from
[17:32] <stiago13> it says server for china
[17:32] <Mamarok> are you based in CHina?
[17:32] <stiago13> atm yes
[17:32] <Mamarok> then leave it, so the server is closer than any others
[17:33] <stiago13> ok
[17:33] <Mamarok> close the window with the sources then, you have all the needed ones
[17:33] <stiago13> k
[17:33] <stiago13> wowow
[17:33] <stiago13> as soon as i closed
[17:34] <stiago13> a bunch of updates (i guess) started downloading
[17:34] <stiago13> on the adept window
[17:34] <Mamarok> stiago13: good
[17:34] <stiago13> almost done
[17:34] <Mamarok> stiago13: once this is finished, you can go to the search button on the left
[17:35] <stiago13> type basket?
[17:35] <Mamarok> exactly :)
[17:35] <stiago13> thanks a lot mamarok
[17:35] <stiago13> so it wont ask for libraries?
[17:35] <Mamarok> it should appear first in the list on the right side
[17:35] <Mamarok> stiago13: normally it will activate the needed dependencies
[17:36] <stiago13> good
[17:36] <stiago13> thanks a lot mamarok
[17:36] <stiago13> sorry for anything
[17:36] <stiago13> im in love with linux
[17:36] <Mamarok> stiago13: good :)
[17:36] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what was it you disagreed with me?
[17:36] <eagles0513875> Mamarok:  you in offtopic
[17:37] <Mamarok> no
[17:37] <stiago13> nothing is showing up when i type basket
[17:37] <eagles0513875> can you hop in there please since i dont want to take this channel off topic
[17:37] <eagles0513875> !info basket
[17:37] <stiago13> and it finished loading
[17:38] <Mamarok> stiago13: try to go back to sources and update your files (button at the bottom of the window
[17:38]  * genii sips a coffee
[17:39] <stiago13> fetch current package lists?
[17:39] <Mamarok> stiago13: yes
[17:39] <genii> g-hennux: Looking at your pastebin, you used --purge with apt-get install instead of apt-get remove. Try only:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine
[17:40] <stiago13> tsk.. nothing
[17:41] <Mamarok> stiago13: you might want to try another server then, eventually try the main server, but this might be slow, I don't know how your connection is
[17:41] <stiago13> pretty bad
[17:41] <stiago13> main server didnt give anything
[17:41] <stiago13> im tring us now
[17:42] <stiago13> trying*
[17:42] <genii> olimpico: You had it booting from something like a raid device or such?
[17:43] <Mamarok> stiago13: don't forget to update your pavkage list every time you change server
[17:43] <stiago13> ok
[17:43] <Mamarok> package list, sry
[17:43] <Mamarok> this might take some time, unfortunately
[17:43] <stiago13> indeed it is
[17:43] <olimpico> genii: not at all
[17:44] <olimpico> Thank God is only my old test Computer
[17:44] <Mamarok> stiago13: you are sure you have a hook for all the repositories except the ones for the source code?
[17:44] <eagles0513875> Mamarok:  i have basket downloading as we speak
[17:45] <olimpico> But is as standard computer, a bit old, but works fine in any other ditro that I have tried: PCLOS, GENTOO, DEBIAN, FREEBSD, etc
[17:45] <genii> olimpico: This sort of error happens usually in a couple instances. When the kernel doesn't have the module built in for the device you want to boot from usually
[17:45] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: does this help the other user?
[17:46] <stiago13> mamarok, i didnt understand you there
[17:46] <eagles0513875> trying to narrow down the issue Mamarok
[17:46] <genii> olimpico: Also if you changed hd order for instance
[17:46] <Mamarok> stiago13: in the sources list, you must have hooks in front of the first four (4) package repositoreies, e.g. main, universe, restricted, multiverse
[17:47] <Mamarok> well, you really need only the first two, but if you want proprietary codecs the other ones are needed too
[17:49] <stiago13> mamarok: i will check that once the updates are finished
[17:49] <stiago13> ok?
[17:49] <Mamarok> ok :)
[17:49] <eagles0513875> stiago13: and Mamarok thanks for headup about basket will be very useful in my lectures
[17:49] <eagles0513875> :)
[17:50] <luke_> How do I split a 4 GB ISO image into 5 RAR files on Ubuntu?
[17:51] <olskolirc> hey guys where is the widget for "show desktop" in kde4.2 beta please?
[17:51] <luke_> olskolirc: yes
[17:52] <stiago13> eagles: it should be a great program
[17:52] <stiago13> i used microsoft onenote in all classes in uni
[17:52] <stiago13> it is great to jot down stuff and ya
[17:52] <stiago13> basket looks very neat
[17:52] <Mamarok> olskolirc: it's called "dashboard"
[17:53] <TheFuzzball> Mamarok: No it's not.
[17:53] <eagles0513875> same here i have used onenote as well stiago13 i have it installed and took a look at it seems sweet
[17:53] <stiago13> :)
[17:53] <stiago13> glad you found it
[17:53] <stiago13> took me a while to find an equivalent
[17:53] <Mamarok> TheFuzzball: well, wich one is it then?
[17:54] <stiago13> it was the only ting holding me back from switching os
[17:54] <TheFuzzball> Mamarok: "Show Desktop"
[17:54] <stiago13> its just so useful
[17:54] <stiago13> but damn it
[17:54] <stiago13> it still doesnt show in my adept
[17:54] <olskolirc> I just want to put a show desktop icon by my Kmenu button Mamarok what its called and all that info I can't use without the where is it and how do I add it to my panel
[17:55] <Mamarok> olskolirc: right click on a free space on your desktop and choose "Install widget..."
[17:55] <Mamarok> scroll down, there you go
[17:56] <Mamarok> olskolirc: if it's not by default (me use kde-nightly), you can download it with the "GetHotNewStuff" button on the down left of that widget window
[17:57] <stiago13> you guys still have any idea what i could be?
[17:57] <Mamarok> stiago13: very strange, as it is in the universe repo, shows here
[17:57] <stiago13> yo rekon it has to do with those erros
[17:58] <stiago13> owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[17:58] <Mamarok> stiago13: that is indeed strange, you are sure you didn't have a rpm based distribution in use first?
[17:59] <olskolirc> wow Mamarok what kind of kde4 do you have?  I don't have a GetHotNewSTuff button or anything like that in my widgets or panel settings.  In kde4.1 show desktop was in widgets but not on 4.2
[17:59] <stiago13> i installed kubuntu before
[17:59] <olskolirc> I can't stand to have to minimize minimize minimize just to get to my f*n desktop!
[17:59] <olskolirc> any help?
[17:59] <stiago13> but i formatted the partition
[17:59] <Mamarok> as those do the user numbering differently form the apt based ones
[17:59] <Mamarok> olskolirc: if you only have installed KDE 4.2 beta, you might not have all the widgets
[18:00] <olskolirc> ok
[18:00] <Mamarok> olskolirc: in the "add widget"-winbdow, you have a button on the bottom left which allows you to download the missing buttons
[18:00] <olskolirc> ok
[18:02] <olimpico> genii: I don't change a thing, I use that computer just for testing
[18:02] <Mamarok> stiago13: well, that should not be a problem then, as the numbering doesn't change in Kubuntu
[18:02] <hyper_ch> huhu apachelogger
[18:02] <stiago13> :S
[18:02] <Mamarok> olskolirc: you do know that you can have more than one desktop, do you?
[18:02] <stiago13> im so dissapointed
[18:02] <olimpico> genii: I havent cahnge anything on that computer for years
[18:02] <stiago13> i was so hyped abt linux
[18:02] <olskolirc> i have 4 Mamarok
[18:02] <hyper_ch> stiago13: linux is disappointing
[18:02] <hyper_ch> stiago13: I suddenly have too much time to do work on my computer :(
[18:03] <Mamarok> stiago13: I understand, but have no idea why it doesn't show up
[18:03]  * Mamarok has 10 desktops...
[18:03] <stiago13> fair enough man
[18:03] <stiago13> you done great
[18:03] <stiago13> thanks a lot
[18:03] <genii> olimpico: Hmm. You upgraded from an earlier version?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:03] <Mamarok> stiago13: you're welcome :)
[18:04] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: hop in offtopic i wanna tell u something
[18:04] <Mamarok> stiago13: still, I think it has to do with the repositories that do not activate
[18:04] <eagles0513875> stiago13: what happened
[18:04] <stiago13> the package basket just doesnt whoe up when i search it in adept
[18:04] <hyper_ch> stiago13: what the issue you have with it?
[18:04] <stiago13> show*
[18:04] <olimpico> genii: I installed Kubuntu 8.10 from the CD
[18:04] <eagles0513875> hyper_ch: hes trying to install basket
[18:05] <stiago13> hyper_ch: im trying to install a package called basket, and it wont show up when i search it on adept.
[18:05] <Wickk> how can I downgrade from KDE 4.2 back to 3?
[18:05] <hyper_ch> eagles0513875: and that is?
[18:05] <eagles0513875> msft onenote equivalent
[18:05] <stiago13> pretty much
[18:05] <eagles0513875> !info basket | hyper_ch
[18:05] <hyper_ch> Wickk: you can't "downgrade" but you can remove kde 4.2 and install kde 3.5.4
[18:05] <genii> olimpico: OK. I was thinking maybe it still was thinking hda hdb  and so on instead of new conventon of sda sdb
[18:05] <hyper_ch> stiago13: you know wht pastebin is?
[18:05] <stiago13> no sorry
[18:06] <eagles0513875> hyper_ch: hes brand new to linux cut him some slack
[18:06] <olimpico> genii: I updated some weeks ago without problems, but now I updated again and can't boot, I'll delete verything and install Xubuntu, I want to try it out. On my Desktop i have Kubuntu 8.04 running and I'm still very happy with it. I'll not update to 8.10 until it gets really stable.
[18:06] <stiago13> im fine with computers though
[18:06] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | stiago13
[18:06] <Wickk> hyper_ch: 'k is there a way I can do this while still in kde 4.2? I don't have gnome installed
[18:06] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: calm down, he tries to help!
[18:06] <eagles0513875> Mamarok:  i know
[18:06] <hyper_ch> stiago13: now run the following command and pastebin it:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:06] <hyper_ch> Wickk: your on hardy or intrepid?
[18:07] <Wickk> intrepid
[18:07] <stiago13> so i will run that in konsole?
[18:07] <olimpico> genii: Not at all, it's definitely a big error, they should test is more through before releasing kernels like that.
[18:07] <hyper_ch> stiago13: yes, it will give some output and that output you paste into pastebin
[18:07] <stiago13> k
[18:07] <hyper_ch> stiago13: when you do so, you will be given a new URL and then you post this URL in here :)
[18:08] <hyper_ch> Wickk: btw, you use KDE 4.2?
[18:08] <hyper_ch> Wickk: not 4.1.2?
[18:08] <stiago13> k
[18:08] <Wickk> hyper_ch: I'm not really sure I re-installed Kubuntu today and I think it said on the site it comes with the latest beta of KDE
[18:09] <hyper_ch> Wickk: the versions in the official repos are very seldomly the latest beta :) you'll have to add PPA repos to get lates KDE 4.2 (in which I have a small problem myself)
[18:09] <stiago13> paste.ubuntu.com/84458
[18:09] <Wickk> hyper_ch: ohh ok
[18:10] <stiago13> there u go hyper_ch
[18:10] <hyper_ch> Wickk: I don't see any kde 3.5 things in the repos anymore
[18:10] <Wickk> hyper_ch:
[18:10] <Wickk> hyper_ch: 'k I was just wondering cause this is more taxing on my hardware
[18:11] <joseh> am new to linux and i just messed it up
[18:11] <hyper_ch> joseh: this happens :)
[18:11] <joseh> i  cant see the task bar or start menu
[18:11] <Mamarok> Wickk: you might use kde-nightly then, uses less and is quite stable
[18:11] <hyper_ch> Wickk: oh well, if you are brave you might want to try kde 4.2
[18:12] <Wickk> K thanks, I'll check them both out
[18:12] <joseh> can some1 help me get it back? plz
[18:12] <hyper_ch> stiago13: what is lupaworld.com in your repositories? did you add that?
[18:12] <stiago13> i think i did
[18:12] <stiago13> i went to sources
[18:12] <stiago13> and i tried to use a server close here
[18:12] <hyper_ch> Wickk: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[18:13] <hyper_ch> stiago13: ok :) that's all I needed to know
[18:13] <Wickk> hyper_ch: Thanks :)
[18:13] <eagles0513875> later all heading home
[18:13] <stiago13> see you eagles
[18:13] <joseh> plz some1 help me
[18:13] <stiago13> thank you for everything
[18:13] <hyper_ch> Wickk: as said, it gives me an error with Kontact that's unresolved yet
[18:14] <hyper_ch> stiago13: what's the output of:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install basket
[18:14] <Wickk> hyper_ch: Ah, well I've never used it so I'll  brave it
[18:14] <stiago13> each one
[18:14] <stiago13> or i type that as one
[18:14] <hyper_ch> stiago13: that's just one :)
[18:14] <stiago13> ok
[18:15] <hyper_ch> stiago13: you can also type it individually
[18:15] <stiago13> if i type it as one
[18:15] <stiago13> it gives off
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> joseh: wassup
[18:15] <joseh> wassup action
[18:15] <stiago13> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 13 08:20:53 2008
[18:15] <stiago13> lol
[18:15] <practor> hello people
[18:16] <practor> is there a quick way to figure out with package a file came from?
[18:16] <hyper_ch> practor: yes, there is
[18:16] <practor> some compilation screw up hosed my snd-hda-intel kernel module
[18:16] <hyper_ch> stiago13: hmmm.... did you change between Windows and Linux?
[18:16] <stiago13> wait
[18:16] <stiago13> i think its working
[18:16] <hyper_ch> practor: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[18:16] <stiago13> i had to type my password
[18:16] <stiago13> i will send u the link
[18:17] <hyper_ch> practor: then you can search for a file with:  apt-file search KEYWORD
[18:17] <practor> ah groovy, thanks for that!
[18:17] <hyper_ch> apt-file will download the files from the repos and you can search it then
[18:17] <practor> i'll read up on all that apt goodness.  thanks for pointing me in the right direction hyper_ch.
[18:17] <hyper_ch> practor: you can even search for the full path
[18:18] <hyper_ch> no private queries :)
[18:18] <stiago13> hyper_ch: paste.ubuntu.com/84462
[18:18] <hyper_ch> and no, I'm not good with linux, I just pretend to be
[18:18] <hyper_ch> stiago13: I see the problem :)
[18:18] <ibuffy> what's with the taskbark icon being in a window?
[18:19] <stiago13> i think i love you
[18:19] <hyper_ch> stiago13: select a different mirror in Synaptic
[18:19] <hyper_ch> stiago13: or adept
[18:19] <fehrp> hi
[18:19] <stiago13> what you mean
[18:19] <stiago13> from the us or someting?
[18:19] <Mamarok> stiago13: you still have adept open I guess!
[18:19] <ibuffy> system tray icon*
[18:19] <hyper_ch> stiago13: or outside the use
[18:19] <fehrp> how does bluetooth work in KDE 4? there seems to be an application kdebluetooth4, but it won't start up
[18:19] <stiago13> a i do
[18:19] <hyper_ch> generally: the closer a mirror the faster
[18:19] <hyper_ch> BUT not alwasys
[18:20] <hyper_ch> stiago13: e.g. a mirror has "only" a 10mbit upline.... and another mirror in a different country has a 1000mbit upline... then guess which one is faster ;)
[18:20] <stiago13> can i click find best server?
[18:20] <hyper_ch> I normally use the official country mirrors
[18:20] <stiago13> :)
[18:20] <hyper_ch> but you can try to find the best
[18:20] <Mamarok> !bluetooth | fehrp
[18:20] <stiago13> how do i do that
[18:20] <stiago13> if i click in a country it doesnt allow me to click ok
[18:20] <hyper_ch> stiago13: the problem is, lupaworld is currently down (or not reachable)...
[18:20] <stiago13> i have to choose a mirror in that country
[18:21] <fehrp> mamarok thx
[18:21] <Mamarok> :)
[18:21] <hyper_ch> stiago13: there could be many reasons for that... but because of that you can't update the package list and neither fetch any software from there
[18:21] <stiago13> i tried an american server though
[18:21] <stiago13> and it also didnt work
[18:22] <fehrp> Mamarok: that page suggerates, that it would work out of the box later than 7.10 but it does not.
[18:22] <Mamarok> stiago13: you are in china, aren't you? you might try an Australian server then
[18:22] <hyper_ch> stiago13: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:22] <stiago13> im just trying a taiwanese one
[18:23] <stiago13> just a sec hyper_ch its updating in adept
[18:23] <Mamarok> fehrp: well, there was a release note about bluetooth not working in Kubuntu 8.10, might still be a problem then
[18:23] <hyper_ch> stiago13: ok :)
[18:23] <hyper_ch> stiago13: I would have given you my sources.list then
[18:23] <hyper_ch> stiago13: (with a few edits out of it)
[18:24] <Mamarok> fehrp: as Intrepid uses kde 4.1.3, this could indeed still be an issue
[18:25] <hyper_ch> fehrp: if you are brave enough you could try kde 4.2 (but it has certain bugs) but bluetooth might work better there
[18:25] <olskolirc> I can't find how I can download more widgets in kde4.2.  I see no options no where to get that done
[18:26] <ibuffy> okay, this is annoying
[18:26] <Mamarok> olskolirc: hm, I was able to download additional widgets with that button
[18:26] <ibuffy> it seems every app that uses the system tray places the icon in a seperate window
[18:26] <ibuffy> kde 4.1
[18:26] <ibuffy> it hasn't been doing this though...
[18:27] <stiago13> hyper_ch, what should i do now?
[18:27] <Mamarok> olskolirc: you can go diretly to kde.apps.org to get them
[18:27] <kniolet> ibuffy: i have seen kde do that sometimes since kde3 for no abvious reason
[18:27] <hyper_ch> stiago13: run:  sudo apt-get install basket
[18:27] <hyper_ch> stiago13: and post the output here
[18:27] <olskolirc> ok Mamarok
[18:27] <kniolet> ibuffy: usually a reboot fixes it though for me
[18:27] <hyper_ch> stiago13: the terminal is good for debugging if something doesn't work ;)
[18:27] <ibuffy> ah
[18:28] <stiago13> hyper_ch
[18:29] <stiago13> i just decided to make use of a good old microsoft windows technique
[18:29] <stiago13> and just close everything
[18:29] <stiago13> and open it up again
[18:29] <stiago13> and guess what
[18:29] <stiago13> its DOWNLOADING
[18:29] <stiago13> and at some good speed as well
[18:29] <hyper_ch> stiago13: btw, you can have only one software manager active
[18:29] <stiago13> whats that supposed to mean
[18:29] <hyper_ch> stiago13: if you run adept, you can't install from the command line
[18:30] <stiago13> ok
[18:30] <hyper_ch> stiago13: if you run synaptic you can't also use adept
[18:30] <stiago13> im installing from command
[18:30] <stiago13> is that ok
[18:30] <hyper_ch> etc :)
[18:30] <hyper_ch> stiago13: command line rocks
[18:30] <stiago13> whats the difference between synpatic and adept
[18:30] <hyper_ch> stiago13: if you ever re-setup the computer, make a note of your favourite programs, and then issue one command to auto-download and auto-install ;)
[18:30] <hyper_ch> stiago13: adept is made for kde, synaptic for gnome
[18:31] <stiago13> ok thanks
[18:31] <stiago13> do u use kde or gnome
[18:31] <stiago13> kubuntu or ubuntu
[18:31] <hyper_ch> stiago13: besides that, they provide different interfaces.. I think adept has different categories
[18:31] <Mamarok> stiago13: this is the kubuntu channel, so you can guess :)
[18:31] <stiago13> oh crap
[18:31] <stiago13> im so tired
[18:31] <hyper_ch> stiago13: well, have a guess at what I use
[18:31] <stiago13> its 2:30 am here
[18:31] <hyper_ch> stiago13: (and before I mentioned a few issues with kde 4.2)
[18:31] <stiago13> i was just pissed about this thing
[18:32] <Mamarok> wow, stiago13, you need rest!
[18:32] <stiago13> mamarok!
[18:32] <stiago13> basket is working
[18:32] <stiago13> :D:D:D:D
[18:32] <Mamarok> great!
[18:32] <stiago13> thank you all
[18:32] <stiago13> hyper_ch
[18:32] <stiago13> mamarok
[18:32] <Mamarok> :)
[18:32] <stiago13> do u know if that webcam program cheese works in kde?
[18:33]  * Mamarok doesn't know cheese
[18:33] <hyper_ch> stiago13: and you probably want to install also:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extra
[18:33] <ibuffy> thanks kniolet. can't believe that worked
[18:33] <hyper_ch> stiago13: and possibly you also want to add the medibuntu repos ;)
[18:33] <hyper_ch> what does cheese do?
[18:33] <ibuffy> now to get firefox looking like the rest of me apps
[18:33] <stiago13> its like apple's photobooth
[18:33] <stiago13> and whatis that kubuntu-restricted-extra?
[18:33] <hyper_ch> and what's apple's photobooth?
[18:33] <Mamarok> stiago13: try digikam then
[18:33] <stiago13> webcam effects
[18:34] <hyper_ch> stiago13: ah... no clue :)
[18:34] <stiago13> ya
[18:34] <stiago13> downloading from command line is good
[18:34] <hyper_ch> stiago13: I'm exciting enough... I don't need additional effects ;)
[18:34] <stiago13> adept doesnt show any results still
[18:34] <ibuffy> i installed gtk-qt-engine-kde4 but searching in system settings for "gtk" shows nothing
[18:34] <stiago13> why would that be
[18:34] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: sudo updatedb
[18:35] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: and then search the system with "locate"
[18:35] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: or use "find"
[18:35] <hyper_ch> stiago13: you're downloading cheese or digikam?
[18:35] <ibuffy> hyper_ch: how would that help kde system settings?
[18:35] <Mamarok> stiago13: no idea, did you maximize the screen? it might simply be lower in the window now it's installed
[18:35] <ibuffy> this is my last gripe, i promise.
[18:35] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: oh... system settings... I read "but searching the system shows nothing"
[18:36] <ibuffy> hyper_ch: gotcha
[18:36] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: well, why should gtk appear in kde system settings?
[18:36] <ibuffy> hyper_ch: it's for the gtk/qt fix. it usually is there
[18:36] <stiago13> still doesnt show anything :(
[18:36] <stiago13> btw hyper_ch what was: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extra
[18:36] <hyper_ch> ibuffy: no clue
[18:36] <ibuffy> this is a niglty build and everything is running great except for firefox not being themed properly
[18:37] <Kovert> KDE 4.3.1 a lot of the new applets dont work SHoudl I wait or install something I missed?
[18:37] <hyper_ch> stiago13: that will install a first batch of codecs and stuff that you might be used to to have from windows/mac
[18:37] <olskolirc> Well I don't see where the heck I can install showdesktop
[18:38] <hyper_ch> stiago13: thsoe codecs are not installed by default because of different licencing policies in different countries...
[18:38] <stiago13> im still pissed abt adept not working
[18:38] <olskolirc> id like my task bar to be in classic view as well
[18:38] <stiago13> but oh well
[18:38] <stiago13> im off to bed
[18:38] <ibuffy> this nightly build is running a lot smoother (read: faster and just as stable) than my stable version
[18:38] <olskolirc> Id also like to put a divider between my quick launch and my taskbar
[18:38] <stiago13> !info grub2
[18:38] <Mamarok> ibuffy: it's not available in kde-nightly at the moment, doesn't show here neither (in system settings -appearance
[18:38] <Mamarok> )
[18:38] <lovre> what is alternative to Ark? It is not integrated with dolphin, so i want to try something else, possibli with a nice GUI?
[18:39] <ibuffy> Mamarok: darn.
[18:40] <Mamarok> ibuffy: don't expect too much from svn neither, sometimes things break
[18:41] <hyper_ch> lovre: how about the command line?
[18:41] <hyper_ch> lovre: that one has a nice gui :)
[18:41] <ibuffy> oh well, one app that doesn't look so swell. no biggy
[18:42] <Guest28800> hey.. can anyone point me to a help guide for audio drivers? I just installed kubuntu 8.10 and I have no audio drivers..
[18:43] <Mamarok> lovre: if you right click on the package, you can choose "Open with Ark", no?
[18:43] <lovre> Mamarok: no, i cant
[18:43] <lovre> Mamarok: its not integrated for some reason.
[18:43] <Mamarok> lovre: what version of KDE are you using?
[18:43] <Kovert> !alsaconfig
[18:43] <Mamarok> it works here since 4.1.3
[18:43] <Kovert> !alsa
[18:44] <Kovert> !battery
[18:44] <Kovert> me either! :-(
[18:44] <hyper_ch> Guest28800: if your audio doesn't work out of the box then it's normally to get difficult
[18:44] <Guest28800> :/
[18:44] <hyper_ch> !alsa | Guest28800
[18:44] <Mamarok> Guest28800: you have phonon and the xine package installed?
[18:45] <Guest28800> Ill check.. standard 8.10 so far nothing special
[18:45] <lovre> Mamarok: 4.1
[18:45] <Mamarok> lovre: 4.1.0? that's old....
[18:45] <lovre> :o
[18:46] <etz> hello
[18:46] <Guest28800> Mamarok: yeah have phonon but xine is not available apparently
[18:46] <paolo> Hi. some days ago the audio stopped working... without a reason that I can understand. I don't know what can I do, in order to solve the problem... what do you suggest ?
[18:46] <hyper_ch> Mamarok: as old as you?
[18:46] <Mamarok> hyper_ch: I'm very young in mind :)
[18:46] <hyper_ch> paolo: turning on the speakers would be my first thought
[18:47] <paolo> hyper_ch: already done
[18:47] <Mamarok> Guest28800: you must install it then
[18:47] <hyper_ch> paolo: second thought would be to ask the experts
[18:47] <Mamarok> !xine
[18:47] <hyper_ch> paolo: (also known as geeks)
[18:47] <paolo> hyper_ch: wehre ?
[18:48] <hyper_ch> paolo: I guess in here is a good place to start... did you try with some other OS to verify that soundcard and speakers still work?
[18:48] <paolo> hyper_ch: tried with another OS and they work
[18:48] <Guest28800> Mamarok: which package is xine? .. "xine" won't install, but there's also xine-plugin and others
[18:49] <Guest28800> Mamarok: adept doesn't show a pure xine package either
[18:49] <davide> synaptic?
[18:50] <hyper_ch> paolo: hmmm.... you have no sound at all?
[18:50] <paolo> hyper_ch: yes
[18:50] <lovre> Mamarok: you suggest updating? isnt 4.2 in beta?
[18:50] <Mamarok> Guest28800: try libxine1
[18:50] <hyper_ch> paolo: no clue really
[18:50] <hyper_ch> lovre: 4.2 is beta
[18:50] <Mamarok> lovre: not to beta, but to 4.1.3
[18:51] <Mamarok> lovre: I had Ark working with Dolphin in 4.1.3, and it does work in kde-nightly (of course)
[18:53] <Guest28800> Mamarok: looks like I have libxine.. I also added libxine-all-plugins now.. amarok says no xine engine was found tho
[18:53] <HappySmileMan> Just got "The trash has reached it's maximum size. Clean up the trash manually"...
[18:53] <Guest28800> Mamarok: amarok says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[18:53] <kniolet> ibuffy: np :-) glad it worked
[18:53] <HappySmileMan> Any reason it can't just delete stuff automagically?
[18:53] <stiago13> im off guys
[18:53] <stiago13> see you soon
[18:53] <Mamarok> Guest28800: you must select xine as the phonon backend
[18:54] <Mamarok> HappySmileMan: right click on the Trash shows you an option to empty it
[18:54] <lovre> Mamarok: how to upgrade?
[18:54] <Mamarok> lovre: you must activate the ppa repositories for thath, moment
[18:54] <Guest28800> Mamarok: engine in amarok is set to xine, but it cannot load audio drivers
[18:55] <Mamarok> Guest28800: you have alsa running?
[18:56] <HappySmileMan> Ah ty Mamarok
[18:56] <Mamarok> HappySmileMan: np :)
[18:56] <Guest28800> Mamarok: I just ran sudo alsa reload now.. same situation
[18:56] <Mamarok> Guest28800: you should follow the steps for sound troubleshooting in the links you have been given earlier
[18:57] <Mamarok> like testing your sound card, etc.
[18:57] <Guest28800> Mamarok: okay I'll go through them
[18:58] <Mamarok> lovre: add the following repositories to your sources.list:
[18:58] <Mamarok> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ intrepid main universe
[18:58] <Mamarok> lovre: there you will have kde 4.1.3
[18:59] <ibuffy> hmm, i take that back, inkscape is affected, like most other non-qt apps i suppose. hmm, i should bark at someone about this
[18:59] <lovre> Mamarok: ok, ty
[18:59] <Mamarok> lovre: np :)
[19:00] <Mamarok> ibuffy: Mozilla is working on a Qt-firefox
[19:01] <lovre> Mamarok: hmm, i added that, and new upgrade only shows libpcre3, that is not it... :?
[19:01] <Mamarok> lovre: if you check your kde4 version, you sure it says 4.1.0?
[19:02] <lovre> Mamarok: ooops? its 4.1.3, but how??? it was 4.1 last time i checked
[19:02] <Mamarok> lovre: you sure you have Ark installed, are you?
[19:03] <lovre> Mamarok: yes, ofcourse