[13:26] <bsander> run it with the path to a video
[13:27] <drbobb> but when i downgraded the crypto, from wpa2-psk to wep
[13:27] <bsander> the second is an xorg.conf script
[13:27] <bsander> put it in /etc/X11
[13:27] <drbobb> networkmanager insists on using the old settings, and of course fails
[13:27] <bsander> (dont overwrite your xorg.conf!!!)
[13:27] <bsander> the script uses it for the second xsession
[13:27] <drbobb> only thing that works is switching off all crypto on the ap
[13:28] <sigma_> bsander: ah i see, but is it for s-video or composite?
[13:28] <bsander> s-video
[13:29] <drbobb> oh i also changed the channel # on the ap to one that's unused in my neighborhood
[13:29] <drbobb> made no difference either
[13:29] <sigma_> bsander: is svideo the cable with lots of pins in it?
[13:30] <bsander> sigma_: http://z.about.com/d/hometheater/1/7/C/9/svideo2.JPG
[13:30] <sigma_> bsander: yup thats it:)
[13:31] <bsander> good :)
[13:31] <sigma_> bsander: no wait mine has more holes in it
[13:31] <sigma_> bsander: what does a composite look like?
[13:32] <kuroryuu> sigma_: big, single pin, usually with a yellow jacket
[13:32] <bsander> sigma_: http://www.hometheatermag.com/images/archivesart/1105hook.3.jpg
[13:33] <bsander> so thats less holes ;)
[13:33] <sigma_> bsander: ok no thats what goes in my tv, so it must be a composite (i have a converter cable)
[13:33] <fay_elf> hi! to be able to burn audio cd's of mp3's using k3b, what package should i install?
[13:34] <sigma_> ok so where do i put the name of the video file?
[13:34] <bsander> what matters is the tv-out port i think
[13:34] <bsander> i have s-video, but use a scart to connect it to my tv
[13:34] <drbobb> ok i'll be trying to switch crypto back on but i'm fairly sure that will force me to reboot
[13:35] <sigma_> bsander: yeah i guess so, so must i name the xorg file u gave me xorg-conf-tv?
[13:35] <drbobb> (there doesn't seem to be any easy way to restart just the networkmanager service)
[13:36] <bsander> yes
[13:37] <sigma__> bsander: sorry i disconnected my internet by mistake
[13:37] <fay_elf> ok got it anyway libk3b2-mp3
[13:38] <sigma__> bsander: i have renamed the xorg file to xorg-conf-tv , whats the next step?
[13:39] <bsander> run the script with a path to a movie. Note that your normal monitor will go blank as it switches xsessions, so it's not possible to keep on browsing while watching the video
[13:39] <bsander> when the movie finishes or you press escape, you'll get back to the normal session again
[13:40] <sigma__> bsander: where do i put the path to the movie?
[13:40] <bsander> i set it up like that cause i already have a dual head session and most GPU's don't seem to be able to output to 3 different screens..
[13:40] <bsander> just run tv-script.sh /home/me/movie.avi
[13:41] <bsander> or however you named the script ;)
[13:42] <sigma__> bsander: oh ok, are you sure the xorg file should be named xorg-conf-tv and not xorg.conf.tv?
[13:42] <bsander> yes
[13:42] <bsander> you can change it, but then also change it in the last line of the script :)
[13:42] <sigma__> ok
[13:43] <sigma__> guess i should give it a try
[13:44] <sigma__> bsander: it keeps saying "command not found"?
[13:45] <bsander> which command?
[13:45] <sigma__> bsander: heres the command "tv-script.sh /home/sigma/sdb1/Media-Server/Thirteen"
[13:45] <sigma__> im running it in Konsole
[13:45] <bsander> does it say which command it can't find?
[13:46] <sigma__> it says "bash: script.sh: command not found"
[13:47] <vzduch> sigma__: buy glasses :P
[13:47] <vzduch> there's a dash in there
[13:48] <sigma__> bsander: ok i got it going but it just ends saying with a big error, hang on il paste it
[13:48] <bsander> k
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> shouldn't Thirteen have a filetype suffix?
[13:49] <sigma__> nosrednaekim: i removed them, still works for some reason
[13:49] <MGalaxy> Hello, how can I add some ADSL Connections with different UN/PW? so that I can connect whit the connection I want
[13:50] <MGalaxy> with*
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> sigma__: i'd put it back... its helpful for programs sometimes
[13:50] <sigma__> ok will do
[13:50] <sigma__> bsander: heres the error - "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48328/"
[13:51] <bsander> sigma__: you dont have xterm
[13:52] <bsander> !info xterm | sigma__
[13:52] <ubotu> sigma__: xterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 229-1 (gutsy), package size 444 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[13:52] <sigma__> basically the (primary) screen disapears as if its gona switch then it comes back
[13:52] <sigma__> ok il get that now
[13:53] <drbobb_> damn i can't tweak the crypto settings on my ap at all
[13:53] <sigma__> um guys my pc isnt allowing me to open any apps since running that script
[13:54] <drbobb_> network manager always insists on using the old ones it remembered, even after a reboot
[13:54] <sigma__> hang on im gona restart x
[13:55] <drbobb_> it's either all crypto off, or the exact settings that used to work in the past
[13:55] <MGalaxy> hello?
[13:55] <drbobb_> (but don;t seem to work anymore)
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> drbobb_: did you try a purge of knetworkmanager and a reinstall?
[13:56] <drbobb_> nosrednaekim: no, but do you suggest that is what one should do every time one changes some settings on one's accesspoint?
[13:56] <sigma__> ok im back now
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> drbobb_: certainly not, but Knetworkmanager is also a piece of pure bugginess.
[13:57] <ibilic> in Disks and Filesystems, what does the "Enable" checkbox do?
[13:57] <drbobb_> anyway i'm sure it keeps the ap settings somewhere in my home dir
[13:58] <nosrednaekim> ibilic: it mounts it
[13:58] <ibilic> also, how do I see a list of mounted partitions?
[13:58] <drbobb_> and purging the package would't get rid of them
[13:58] <ibilic> and how do I see a list of mountable devices?
[13:58] <sigma__> bsander: i got the xterm installed, should i try running the command?
[13:58] <ibilic> but I have some partitions that are there and have the Enable/Disable option and some of them don't
[13:58] <MGalaxy> drbobb_: Hello, how can I add some ADSL Connections with different UN/PW? so that I can connect whit the connection I want
[13:59] <bsander> yes :)
[13:59] <drbobb_> MGalaxy: sorry no idea
[14:00] <bsander> you could also just sit there and watch your screen, but I think trying to run the command would be a tad more useful ;)
[14:00] <kaminix> Do I actually need Klipper running?
[14:00] <kaminix> Do I need it to use ctrl+c?
[14:01] <sigma__> bsander: i got a picture:) but on my monitor because its not hooked 2da tv, il have to carry the pc over there, is it normal for the command to revert back to my monitor if no tv is attached?
[14:01] <bsander> er
[14:01] <bsander> i don't know really
[14:01] <sigma__> kaminix: its good for storing stuff u copied
[14:01] <bsander> you just got it on your regular monitor?
[14:01] <sigma__> bsander: yup
[14:02] <sigma__> bsander: lemme just try it on the tv, will u still b around?
[14:02] <bsander> yeah i'll be here for about 20 more minutes
[14:02] <kaminix> sigma__: What if I only need the thing I copied last? If I don't really need anything except ctrl+c/v and ctrl+middleclick?
[14:02] <bsander> is that enough?
[14:03] <bsander> kaminix: X sometimes acts really strange with c/p
[14:03] <sigma__> bsander: should be, one quik thing - will this also work on a ati laptop chipset?
[14:03] <bsander> for instance when you copy something and then quit the app, your clipboard will be empty without kl;ipper
[14:03] <bsander> I couldn't say really, don't count on it since I generated the xorgconf with nvidia-settings
[14:04] <bsander> but it might work, i truly don't know :)
[14:04] <kaminix> I see... well is there anyway to hide klipper then?
[14:04] <bsander> you can configure your systemtray to hide certain icons, kaminix
[14:04] <kaminix> How?
[14:04] <kaminix> Aha!
[14:04] <kaminix> Found it! :) Thanks!
[14:04] <bsander> unlock kicker
[14:05] <bsander> click the little arrow
[14:05] <bsander> ah ok :)
[14:05] <bsander> np
[14:06] <kaminix> :)
[14:09] <kaminix> Now... anyway to standardize the Konqueror taskbar icon? :p
[14:09] <ferox> hi all
[14:09] <Jyzygzel-> Sounds are not working
[14:09] <ferox> may you take a look of this http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feroxxpixeltj6.png and tell me what shall i do?
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> ferox: looking
[14:11] <bsander> btw, if i want to monitor my disk throughput in ksysguard, does anybody know how to find the "address" of the disk I wanna watch?
[14:11] <sigma_> bsander: im on the tv, and its still thinking that the monitor is my tv screen (movie opens on monitor and not tv)
[14:11] <bsander> ferox: whats the problem in that screenshot?
[14:12] <patricio> Hi all, how do I have to configure my kubuntu to work with tv-out(s-video)?
[14:12] <JohnFlux> bsander: you could run 'mount'  - that will tell you
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> bsander: I think there are links on the left side of the app with all the available devices
[14:12] <drbobb> ok, well partial success: i got my laptop to associate with the ap. however, dhcp failed repeatedly
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> ferox: whats wrong with that?
[14:13] <ferox> my pixell are wrong
[14:13] <drbobb> that was with wep encryption
[14:13] <ferox> every pixell is moving...
[14:13] <bsander> JohnFlux, nosrednaekim: what I see in ksysguard is a whole list of [number]:[number] lines
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[14:13] <bsander> each of which I can open and load sensor applets for\
[14:13] <bsander> how do I ID my regular hd in there?
[14:14] <vzduch> ferox: drink less :P .. or buy a new monitor, the screenshot shows no errors
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> ferox: I don't see anything wrong
[14:14] <fox> hi
[14:14] <JohnFlux> bsander: i'm not sure what that is heh
[14:14] <drbobb> nosrednaekim: the trick was to ask for a network by name and not pick it out of knetworkmanager's menu
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> bsander: are the really really long numbers? like UUIDs?
[14:14] <ferox> ok ... so it's the monitor....
[14:14] <bsander> no
[14:14] <JohnFlux> bsander: file a bug on bugs.kde.org  to show mount names or something
[14:14] <bsander> first number is either 1 or 8
[14:14] <JohnFlux> bsander: and I'll fix it
[14:14] <drbobb> that forces the buggy p.o.s. to ask for the auth data again
[14:14] <JohnFlux> bsander: it's the major and minor number
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: ahh, well with WEP, you can do it from the command line very easily
[14:14] <bsander> second number is in range 0-33
[14:15] <bsander> JohnFlux: I will :)
[14:15] <JohnFlux> bsander: ls -la /dev/hd*     will list the major and minor numbers
[14:15] <JohnFlux> bsander: for your hard disks
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> bsander: ah.... grub device names I guess.
[14:15] <drbobb> iwconfig was correct but dhcp failed anyway
[14:15] <JohnFlux> nosrednaekim: nah probably major and minor numbers for the device
[14:15] <BPXtr> firefox didn't open after i update ubuntu 7.04 to 7.1, does somebody know why?
[14:16] <bsander> JohnFlux: it was ls -la /dev/sd* for me but thanks, that was helpful :)
[14:16] <drbobb> now i'm on unencrypted wireless and it sorta seems to work
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: run "firefox" from a command line
[14:16] <drbobb> exceot i already had two disconnects in the last 5 minutes
[14:16] <BPXtr> there is no other way???
[14:17] <drbobb> s/exceot/except/
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: thats just to catch any errors
[14:17] <BPXtr> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: hum, well, thats helpful.
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: try uninstalling firefox and then reinstallin
[14:18] <BPXtr> ok
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> reinstalling firefox that is
[14:20] <BPXtr> nope
[14:20] <BPXtr> not working
[14:22] <SatManUK> where would i find the location of apache2.conf of httpd.conf?
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: do you have alot of bookmarks and saved passwords and such?
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: probably in etc/apache
[14:23] <BPXtr> just 3 or 4 extensions
[14:23] <BPXtr> FireFTP, Colorzilla, Measure it, Google Toolbar Ect.
[14:23] <SatManUK> how to restart it
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: no bookmarks? I'm talking about wiping your .mozilla
[14:24] <SatManUK> i wanna run sql-ledger so i need to use it via apache2
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: restart what.
[14:24] <SatManUK> apache2
[14:24] <SatManUK> so it reads the httpd.conf file
[14:25] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: probably in /etc/init.d
[14:25] <BPXtr> u mean to delete that folder at all?
[14:25] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: yes, everything in it which will erase your bookmarks
[14:26] <BPXtr> finally...
[14:26] <BPXtr> thank you!
[14:27] <BPXtr> do u have any idea about "Reason"?
[14:27] <BPXtr> it was cause of an extension or?
[14:27] <drbobb_> damn this is tremendously frustrating
[14:28] <drbobb_> still can't get WEP going
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: no I don't.... probably a problem between versions of firefox
[14:28] <BPXtr> i see.. thank you very much :)
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> BPXtr: no problem
[14:29] <bsander> JohnFlux: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154111
[14:29] <drbobb_> ok now managed to connect in something called wpa2 mixed mode in my ap's config interface
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> drbobb_: try using wlassistant
[14:29] <BPXtr> have a nice days/nights
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah, you too
[14:30] <drbobb_> nosrednaekim: i tried it once and was under the impression it was even buggier than knetworkmanager
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> drbobb_: hmm well, works for me fine
[14:30] <drbobb_> does it know about wpa?
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> drbobb_: no
[14:31] <drbobb_> oh so that was why i gave up on it
[14:31] <drbobb_> well thx anyway, gonna go get something to eat
[14:31] <drbobb_> L8R
[14:32] <tiny_mini> i can't hear any sound from my laptop with kubuntu 7.10. how to fix it?
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | tiny_mini
[14:36] <ubotu> tiny_mini: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:37] <Rafabe> hi
[14:37] <Rafabe> i have xubuntu, and want to install kde. It says it has to download 150mb. I have a Kubutu CD, is there any way I can have it use those files instead?
[14:38] <jpatrick> Rafabe: apt-cdrom add
[14:40] <Rafabe> I type that at the terminal?
[14:40] <SatManUK> im trying to run perl scripts in konqueror and firefox but they are asking to open wine - why?
[14:42] <Rafabe> got it working, thanks
[14:42] <Kingzar> Hey how can i automaticly start a program from reboot?
[14:43] <murali> hi
[14:43] <LjL> !startup | Kingzar
[14:43] <ubotu> Kingzar: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[14:43] <crush_groove> kingzar  Id =f there isnt an option to do that in the programs prefs you can crontab it
[14:43] <LjL> uhm, this would need a Kubuntu factoid
[14:43] <murali> could any one help me?
[14:44] <Rafabe> one more question: I put the the OS on a 5gb partition, and plan on using my 60gb partition for file storage. How can I have it store downloaded packages on the 60gb drive, so that if I format and reinstall in the future, it doesn't have to redownload everything? There's gotta be somewhere I can define the local package save folder, right?
[14:44] <Kingzar> i don't have gnome!
[14:44] <LjL> Kingzar: just open the programs you want to be started (and nothing else), and Save Session from the K menu
[14:44] <bsander> Kingzar: ln -s [programname] ~/.kde/Autostart/[programname]
[14:45] <bsander> but letting KDE save your session is better
[14:45] <bsander> what LjL said
[14:45] <Kingzar> my knotes didn't start this time
[14:45] <Kingzar> and superkaramba neither
[14:47] <matttis> hi
[14:47] <LjL> !startup-#kubuntu is <reply> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[14:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[14:47] <murali> I installed Kbuntu system went out of range in resolution
[14:48] <matttis> LjL: cool, thats what i need :-)
[14:48] <matttis> !boot
[14:48] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[14:48] <linux__> hi ppl
[14:49] <linux__> could you gimme a lil help pretty pls ?
[14:49] <Kingzar> Howcome my vlcplayer gets blue screen playing dvds
[14:49] <bsander> !ask | linux__
[14:49] <linux__> my kopete crashes
[14:49] <linux__> when I try to login on my msn acc
[14:50] <linux__> I've just installed kubuntu here
[14:50] <matttis> thats an allergic reaction
[14:50] <ubotu> linux__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:50] <linux__> ok hehe
[14:50] <linux__> so
[14:50] <Kingzar> how to play dvd's on ubuntu?
[14:51] <matttis> !dvd ?
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:51] <matttis> !dvd
[14:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:51] <limac> hello folks
[14:52] <linux__> so this is the error I receive
[14:52] <linux__> SIGSEV 11
[14:52] <linux__> on the kopete
[14:53] <matttis> linux__: thats a kopete bug. you could submit a bug report and use pidgin for a while
[14:53] <matttis> I dont think anything is possible
[14:53] <matttis> maybe updating
[14:54] <jpatrick> linux__: please do: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade - that was a bug from ages ago
[14:54] <SatManUK> ok i got sql-ledger running - but how to connect it to the database - its saying no database drivers!!
[14:55] <matttis> !service
[14:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:55] <matttis> !services
[14:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:55] <linux__> ok patrick ^
[14:55] <linux__> ^^
[14:58]  * TuX_Claudiu :: [ amaroK playing  Jan Wayne - Because The Night (Highstreet Allstars extended mix) ] :: [ 208kbps ] :: [ 68:28 of 75:32 ] ::
[14:58] <onishidato> linux: your linux version please?
[14:58] <onishidato> linux__: your linux version please?
[14:58] <linux__> me?
[14:58] <linux__> 7.10
[14:59] <linux__> kubuntu
[14:59] <jpatrick> linux__: it work?
[14:59] <linux__> oh I'll do it yet rs
[14:59] <onishidato> linux__: so, why do you have that Kopete bug? i just wonder....
[14:59] <linux__> i was installing VLC
[14:59] <linux__> yep
[14:59] <linux__> I dont know hehe
[14:59] <linux__> Im newbie here
[15:00] <onishidato> linux__: me too
[15:00] <onishidato> :)
[15:00] <linux__> hehe
[15:00] <linux__> like ive already used kopete on the ubuntu
[15:00] <linux__> and I like it
[15:00] <linux__> so I waaaaaant to use lol
[15:01] <jpatrick> linux__: open the console (KMenu -> System -> Konsole) and type: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" there
[15:01] <linux__> ok
[15:02] <linux__> so
[15:02] <linux__> 162mb download
[15:02] <jpatrick> go updates
[15:03] <linux__> downloadin
[15:03] <linux__> it'll take a while
[15:03] <linux__> cuz my connection its not that good
[15:03] <linux__> lol
[15:05] <linux__> amarok needs plugins to play mp3 files?
[15:05] <SatManUK> !mp3
[15:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:06] <SatManUK> there you go :)
[15:06] <linux__> thanks
[15:09] <ubunturos> how big would an apt-get dist-upgrade be?
[15:10] <Kingzar> Who can help me, i got almost all the codecs i can think of to play back avi files or dvds but still i get no video, audio is working tho
[15:11] <linux__> I use VLC media player, it plays all the formats of video and audio
[15:11] <bazhang> Kingzar: you have compiz enabled?
[15:11] <linux__> without plugins
[15:11] <Kingzar> yes
[15:11] <Kingzar> compiz fusion
[15:13] <Kingzar> lol i think i got too much plugins now, i get green screen now
[15:14] <bazhang> Kingzar: was that answer for me? If you want to get a particular person's attention, it's a good idea to use their nick
[15:15] <Kingzar> bazhang: sorry, you recognize my problem?
[15:16] <onishidato> linux__: you have to upgrade amarok
[15:17] <bazhang> Kingzar: have you added kubuntu-restricted-extras? also, try running video with compiz disabled
[15:17] <onishidato> linux__: do you have automatix2??
[15:17] <Kingzar> bazhang:  got the extras, will do the compiz
[15:18] <bazhang> onishidato: that is not recommended, nor supported
[15:18] <linux__> i dont know
[15:18] <linux__> hahaha
[15:19] <jpatrick> !automatix > onishidato
[15:19] <onishidato> linux__: you have to install ubuntu restricted extras and multimedia codes
[15:19] <linux__> oh ok
[15:19] <linux__> now Im downloadin the updates
[15:20] <onishidato> jpatrick: but it will b easier for newbie like us
[15:20] <jpatrick> onishidato: and mess up your computer, yes
[15:20] <holo> Kingzar, did you try to restart X, everytime i get those screens, I restart X and everything is ok
[15:20] <Kingzar> how do i restart x?
[15:20] <holo> ctrl+alt+backspace
[15:21] <bsander> onishidato: yes if it works, but autmoatix can REALLY mess up your system, something a "newbie like you" definitely doesn't want :)
[15:21] <holo> if you don't have session manager, make startx in the console
[15:21] <onishidato> he he, just wanna help
[15:21] <onishidato> :((
[15:21] <bazhang> onishidato: please don't recommend things to new users that may cause breakage
[15:22] <linux__> haha
[15:22] <linux__> no problem onishidato
[15:22] <linux__> =]
[15:22] <onishidato> i think it work good with me, and can help another.
[15:22] <bsander> noproblem, now you know :)
[15:23] <bazhang> linux__: you want the codecs, you need to install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:23] <bazhang> !worksforme | onishidato
[15:23] <ubotu> onishidato: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:24] <onishidato> bazhang: that's what i mean to help linux__
[15:24] <onishidato> bazhang: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:24] <onishidato> bazhang: :P
[15:24] <bazhang> onishidato: the folks who help here will have to clean up after bad advice like that
[15:25] <onishidato> bazhang: ok ok
[15:25] <onishidato> bazhang: no talk now..... oa oa
[15:26] <onishidato> hey
[15:27] <fsckr> anyone using just awn or kiba-dock for their panel?
[15:27] <onishidato> can someone show me some program to log in to another computer?
[15:27] <fsckr> onishidato, krdc
[15:28] <onishidato> can it log in with window xp?
[15:28] <fsckr> onishidato, yes
[15:29] <fsckr> i use it to connect to my xp machine
[15:29] <Kingzar> euhhh how do you disable compiz btw :)
[15:29] <onishidato> thanks
[15:29] <fsckr> n
[15:29] <fsckr> np
[15:29] <Kingzar> bazhang: how do i disable compiz ? :)
[15:29] <bsander> Kingzar: run "kwin --replace"
[15:29] <bazhang> Kingzar: alt-f2 kwin --replace
[15:30] <Kingzar> i'm not super with linux but i have a hunch that i have too many codecs, and the program have trouble picking the right codec
[15:31] <Kingzar> bazhang: still blue :S what's the command to activate compiz again?
[15:33] <Kingzar> need compiz fusion back ! :P
[15:34] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:34] <bsander> Kingzar: compiz --replace
[15:34] <bazhang> Kingzar: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[15:34] <Kingzar> thank you
[15:34] <user_> hi all... i was wondering how to stop certain programs from loading at startup.  In GNOME, its simple, but I can't find it in KDE (7,10).
[15:35] <bsander> hehe rheres some echo here :P
[15:35] <bsander> !startup | user_
[15:35] <ubotu> user_: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[15:36] <BluesKaj> user_, kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart...remove whatever app you want if it's listed there
[15:36] <user_> ok, but how do i *stop* programs from loading at startup?  That didn't answer my question
[15:36] <user_> aha... /usr/share/autostart?
[15:36] <bsander> yes it did, close the program and save your session. Next time, the program shouldn't start.
[15:37] <bsander> no, ~/.kde/Autostart but it's usually empty
[15:37] <fsckr> nobody has answered my question.  I was wondering if anyone is using only kiba-dock or awn as their panel
[15:37] <user_> bsander: thats in your home folder, not in /usr
[15:37] <bsander> yes
[15:37] <BluesKaj> user_,   /usr/share/autostart is the file to use
[15:38] <gabbbbbba> hi, kubuntu 7.10, all bug fixes und patches are installed, no kde 4, problem: hibernate doesnT work!!! i have fluxbuntu too and hibernate does work although both are gutsy gibbon!! o_O
[15:38] <BluesKaj> you can also add apps if you wish
[15:38] <user_> blueskaj: thanks - people were telling me ~/.autostart, which was empty!
[15:38] <bsander> ah, didn't know that one :)
[15:38] <user_> blueskaj: also, I don't plan on printing with this particular computer - what programs can i safely remove?
[15:39] <bsander> but why does this stuff get written it to /usr/share instead of ~/.kde?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> bsander, one of the heavy hitters here told me about that one , cuz i had a similar request
[15:39] <gabbbbbba> hello, hibernate doesnT work!!! gutsy gibbon 7.10
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !patience | gabbbbbba
[15:40] <ubotu> gabbbbbba: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:40] <onishidato> fsckr: how can i use it now?
[15:40] <onishidato> fsckr: krdc
[15:40] <bsander> BluesKaj: so why did he say they used /usr/share?
[15:41] <bsander> for s multi-user setup?
[15:41] <bsander> s=a
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dunno bsander , I didn't ask :)
[15:41] <bsander> ok :)
[15:42] <user_> blueskaj bsander: in any event, that advice is good.  I didn't need the bluetooth loading up every time i booted.  Thanks guys
[15:42] <BluesKaj> I just put the questiona nd it's answer into my text file
[15:43] <user_> can i remove CUPS if i don't use a printer?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> why bother
[15:44] <user_> blueskaj: because its another module (not sure if thats the proper terminology) that i can see gets loaded on each boot.  I don't need it, do I?
[15:44] <bsander> user_: some programs depend on cups, even if you don't want to print with them
[15:44] <user_> im on an older laptop, and want the slimmest system possible to optimize performance
[15:44] <BluesKaj> user_, if you wish, it doesn't delete the app tho , the daemon wont run is all
[15:45] <onishidato> fsckr: how can i use it now?
[15:45] <user_> bsander: thanks for the info... i won't eff with it then :)
[15:45] <finek> what i must do to watch videos on youtube, i have konqueror
[15:45] <user_> finek: install flash
[15:45] <bsander> user_: you can try disabling it in systemsettings, then if something messes up you can turn it on again
[15:45] <bsander> if you really really want it gone from startup
[15:45] <BluesKaj> user_, you can check in system settings/advanced /system services
[15:46] <bsander> systemsettings -> advanced -> system services
[15:46] <bsander> yeah what he said :)
[15:46] <user_> bsander: I don't think i want to mess with it.... I'm on my third install of 7,10, and i promised myself this with be the last one until Hardy comes out >:)
[15:46] <bsander> hehehe
[15:47] <user_> i just love how customizable ubuntu is - i've only been using it for a few months (windows refugee)
[15:47] <user_> plus, the real-time help from you guys is great, too.
[15:47] <bsander> yeah, don't worry, most of us had some borked installs in the past :)
[15:48] <bsander> I remember them all too well
[15:48] <LamerMan> hi guys, i'm looking for the source code of pthread, some standard library functions... are they available in some deb packages? I'm new to linux and just don't know where to look for it.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> for example , wife likes british series like Duchess of Duke Street and it's apretty large torrent file , so I set up ktorrent to start up in the autostart file , without having to click on it every morning
[15:48] <bsander> but the good thing is that they really teach you an understanding of the system
[15:48] <user_> it was a whole new world for me - i tweaked *everything* - usually stuff worked as i wanted (i was following tutorials), but i definitely borked some settings beyond my repairing ability :)
[15:49] <bsander> and after a while you can even fix your system instead of having to reinstall it ;)
[15:49] <crush_groove>  I installed gnome dt beside my kde yesterday and I want to remove it. what is line? I tried "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome" didnt work
[15:49] <cosenal> hi
[15:49] <user_> bsander: i've been getting better- i have learned this "ALWAYS make backups of any important file you are going to alter" .  That always helps
[15:50] <bsander> yup, that's definitely the smart thing to do :)
[15:50] <hoiAn> hi
[15:50] <cosenal> is it normal that since the upgrade to 7.10 (one month ago or more) kubuntu never asked me about updates?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> yup user_ , bsander done that too , this around my 12th or so linux distro and my 5th kubuntu :)
[15:50] <user_> haha :)
[15:51] <bsander> cosenal: do you have adept_notifier running?
[15:51] <user_> ok thanks again guys, i'm going to eat some breakfast
[15:51] <bsander> ok bye
[15:51] <BluesKaj> crush_groove, sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop
[15:51] <cosenal> bsander: yes
[15:52] <BluesKaj> crush_groove,, it'll remove all the gnome apps
[15:52] <crush_groove> Reply: couldnt find package gnome-desktop
[15:52] <cosenal> even if I fetch the updates on Adept Manager it just allows me to Full Upgrade the system, but it doesn't make sense because it's already upgraded
[15:53] <dreamcoder> kubuntu 64bit or 32bit?
[15:53] <bsander> cosenal: upgrading means that there are newer versions of some packages, not an upgrade from feisty to gutsy or something
[15:53] <bsander> Adepts status bar should tell you if there are new/upgradable packages
[15:54] <bsander> "full upgrade" will install the upgradable packages
[15:54] <cosenal> bsander: no, sorry...I mean "Version Upgrade" is the only possibility
[15:54] <bsander> oh
[15:54] <bsander> you're on gutsy?
[15:55] <cosenal> 7.10
[15:55] <bsander> yeah
[15:55] <bsander> and you upgraded from 7.04?
[15:55] <cosenal> yes
[15:55] <bsander> that all went well? nor errors or something?
[15:55] <cosenal> yes
[15:55] <cosenal> and after I upgraded (reinstalled) using the cd
[15:56] <BluesKaj> cosenal, that's a known bug , but I don't remember the fix
[15:56] <cosenal> BluesKaj: where can I find the fix?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> cosenal, one thing you could do is defeat the adept notifier and just wait til somebody more knowledgeable can tell you
[15:58] <BluesKaj> but I'd search on google linux or launchpad
[15:58] <BluesKaj> in the meantime use apt to or synaptic to install apps
[15:58] <cosenal> ok
[15:59] <cosenal> for the first month of usage I supposed that no updates were avaiable
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[15:59] <cosenal> but this begins to sound weird...
[15:59] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[16:01] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I don't know what I can look for
[16:01] <cosenal> ...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> adept distro upgrade bug, or some such thing
[16:06] <bazhang> just apt-get is probably the best bet
[16:07] <bazhang> hope they drop it in kde4 (adept, that is)
[16:08] <mikesco3> im havinɡ an issue
[16:09] <mikesco3> whenever i tipe this weird little box with stranɡe characters with a numbers popup, as if it was tryinɡ to assistme with typinɡ in a foreiɡn lanɡuaɡe
[16:10] <SSJ_GZ> mikesco3: Screenshot?
[16:10] <mikesco3> ok
[16:11] <mikesco3> just a sec
[16:12] <mikesco3> SSJ_GZ, how do ɪ send you the picture now
[16:12] <SSJ_GZ> mikesco3: Upload it somewhere and post the URL.
[16:12] <bazhang> sounds like skim
[16:12] <SSJ_GZ> mikesco3: imageshack, for example.
[16:12] <Ornedan> I used the Manual Configuration dialog available from knetworkmanager's menu to manually set my ethernet device's IP. I set it back to using dhcp via the same dialog afterwards, but it seems networkmanager still considers the interface to be under manual control. How do I get the interface back under networkmanager's control?
[16:13] <mikesco3> SSJ_GZ, i will have to fiɡure that out
[16:13] <mikesco3> why dont i just email it to you
[16:13] <SSJ_GZ> mikesco3: Ok, I have to go now - hopefully someone else can help :)
[16:13] <mikesco3> it would be more simple forme
[16:13] <mikesco3> ohhh... mann
[16:14] <mikesco3> let me try to fiɡure out the imaɡe shack
[16:16] <mikesco3> whenever i tipe this weird little box with stranɡe characters with a numbers popup, as if it was tryinɡ to assistme with typinɡ in a foreiɡn lanɡuaɡe
[16:18] <bazhang> disable scim/skim
[16:18] <bazhang> !info skim
[16:18] <ubotu> skim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1238 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[16:19] <mikesco3> thanks bazhang
[16:19] <mikesco3> how do i dissable thatʔ
[16:19] <bazhang> no worries
[16:20] <iza> !dvd
[16:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:21] <Ryiel> !dvd
[16:21] <Ryiel> :(
[16:21] <Ryiel> oh... im blind
[16:21] <hanna> !asx
[16:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:22] <MGalaxy> Hello, How can I add another ADSL account with pppoeconf ?
[16:22] <mikesco3> fa
[16:22] <mikesco3> ʃ
[16:24] <BluesKaj> mikesco3, you could try removing scim in 'add remove programs"
[16:25] <MGalaxy> BluesKaj: Hello, How can I add another ADSL account with pppoeconf ?
[16:25] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225274 mikesco3
[16:26] <velho> hello peolpe!!!
[16:26] <MGalaxy> bazhang: may you please help me?
[16:26] <mikesco3> BluesKaj, man
[16:26] <mikesco3> that did it
[16:26] <mikesco3> thank you oohh sooo much
[16:27] <mikesco3> I was about to reinstall the whole darn thing
[16:27] <mikesco3> because I couldn'
[16:27] <velho> i have a problem in my kubuntu
[16:27] <mikesco3> couldn't type except in command line mode
[16:27] <velho> when I start a session, the resolution is not ok. can anybody help me?
[16:28] <martijn81> velho: try kcontrol
[16:29] <bazhang> MGalaxy: switch adsl accounts?
[16:29] <Kingzar> anyone know why this command doesn't work? gpg --import automatix2.key
[16:29] <MGalaxy> bazhang: yes, I have a free adsl account between 3am and 7am, and I don't like to run pppoeconf every night :D
[16:30] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE MGalaxy
[16:30]  * bazhang wishes more people would read the wiki
[16:31] <hanna> Could someone give tips how to make asx-format to play with Firefox?
[16:32] <velho> martijn81: and what do I do then?
[16:33] <martijn81> velho: peripherals> monitor and display
[16:34] <holo> velho, are you portuguese?
[16:34] <MGalaxy> bazhang: It only worksfor 1 account and always modifies that account, I want to add an additional account besides the account that I connected with now
[16:34] <velho> holo: yep!
[16:34] <holo> from which city?
[16:34] <bazhang> MGalaxy: where will you plug in the other modem?
[16:34] <velho> martijn81: my resolution is ok in KDE, but it's lower before I begin a session
[16:35] <velho> holo: are you portuguese?
[16:35] <hanna> velho, where you picked that nick? :) (just curious)
[16:35] <holo> velho, yap.. aveiro
[16:35] <holo> hanna, it means "old"
[16:36] <velho> hanna: it's my last name ;)
[16:36] <MaTiAz> velho: heh, velho means "wizard" in Finnish :)
[16:36] <hanna> On my language, it means wizard. :P
[16:36] <MGalaxy> bazhang: I have only one modem at eth0, I want to connect to my ADSL account with different usename/password. In fact, I have bought ONE adsl account with 2 usename/passwords
[16:36] <Ornedan> I used the Manual Configuration dialog available from knetworkmanager's menu to manually set my ethernet interface's IP. I set it back to using dhcp via the same dialog afterwards, but it seems networkmanager still considers the interface to be under manual control. How do I get the interface back under networkmanager's control?
[16:36] <holo> velho, but where are you from? becouse i know someone that is also called velho
[16:36] <velho> MaTiAz: WOW! Really? lol, it means Old in portuguese ;)
[16:37] <bazhang> MGalaxy: you can try at the forums; I'm out of answers
[16:37] <holo> velho, you don't want to know what is super bock in turkish
[16:37] <holo> velhor, or "sic"
[16:37] <velho> holo: lololol
[16:37] <velho> sic?
[16:38] <holo> yep, the television channel has a special meaning in turkish ^^
[16:38] <velho> lol, qual?
[16:38] <bazhang> offtopic?
[16:38] <holo> foder
[16:39] <holo> ok ok.. i have to leave anyway.. continue on topic people
[16:39] <velho> holo: i'm from torres novas
[16:40] <blekos> hello, my login screen has lower resolution than my actual session. As a result when I move the mouse around the screen in the login-screen the screen also "moves"
[16:40] <hanna> I'm not really too excited to install all kind of plugins, is why I'm asking perhaps very simple question. What I need to install to make asx to work?
[16:41] <bazhang> asx? is that a windows format hanna?
[16:41] <hanna> bazhang, I thought so too. But some lamebutts use it anyway.
[16:42] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I found the bug on launchpad and its status is fix released
[16:42] <cosenal> BluesKaj: where can I read the fix released?
[16:42] <bazhang> hanna: have you tried in ##windows?
[16:42] <cosenal> BluesKaj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/155150
[16:44] <ciperlone> when I start a session, the resolution is not ok, but after I enter my password everything turns ok. can anybody help me?
[16:45] <hanna> bazhang, nope,  because I thought I'd want to make things to work, not to broke them. ;)
[16:45] <Ornedan> Ok, so no-one can answer that question... Does anyone here know what files networkmanager uses for it's configuration? And which ones kcm_knetworkconfmodule messes with?
[16:46] <Kingzar> My video files all get blue screen, i have tried getting many codecs, none working!!
[16:48] <hanna> Ornedan, /etc/network/interfaces -- be careful with that file, I'd say.
[16:49] <charles> hello
[16:49] <charles> help
[16:50] <raeg> hello, how can i find out which kind of wireless-cart I have?
[16:50] <raeg> isnt there a command-line-command?
[16:52] <charles> Is there anyone here that can help me recover a keyboard in Kubuntu?
[16:54] <Ryiel> !video editor
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video editor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:59] <Schuenemann> what do I need in order to play matroska files?
[17:04] <Schuenemann> lag
[17:04] <bsander|gone> !info kdenlive | Ryiel
[17:04] <ubotu> ryiel: kdenlive: A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[17:05] <Schuenemann> !matroska
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matroska - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <Schuenemann> !mkv
[17:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:06] <Schuenemann> !info matroska
[17:06] <ubotu> Package matroska does not exist in gutsy
[17:06] <martijn81> Schuenemann: do you want video playback of matroska?
[17:06] <Schuenemann> yes
[17:07] <martijn81> Schuenemann: best to install kmplayer with mplayer engine and w32codecs for that. this is most stable
[17:07] <Schuenemann> I want to play mkv files
[17:08] <Schuenemann> I already have mplayer and w32codecs
[17:09] <Ryiel> thx bsander
[17:09] <Schuenemann> kaffeine = no video
[17:09] <Schuenemann> mplayer = works only when opening by konsole... weird
[17:10] <martijn81> Schuenemann: try kmplayer, has a nicer gui too
[17:11] <Schuenemann> ok
[17:12] <Kingzar> vHmm does anyone know how to improve video quality? If i look at some video's i see alot of pixels, it's not as fine as it would be in winxp
[17:13] <romunov> Kingzar: i've noticed the same problem
[17:13] <romunov> especially if i go full screen
[17:15] <hanna> bazhang, for later reference, tell asker to install mplayer plugin thru adept manager... ;)
[17:15] <lg188> hello
[17:15] <tekteen> hello
[17:15] <romunov> lo
[17:16] <Kingzar> hehe in mplayer if i press fullscreen i get full screen but the video is still the same size in the middle!
[17:17] <hanna> :D
[17:17] <hanna> Fare thee well, people. :) Kubuntu kicks butt! ;)
[17:19] <lg188> what the fark are those global messages ?
[17:19] <ciperlone> how can i see all the processes that are running in kubuntu?
[17:19] <hydrogen> ctrl+escape
[17:21] <ciperlone> hydrogen: tHANX ;)
[17:22] <ciperlone> hydrogen: and how can i kill a process? i mean, how do i get root acess?
[17:23] <Chousuke> use sudo
[17:23] <Schuenemann> sudo kill pid
[17:23] <bsander> !root | ciperlone
[17:23] <ubotu> ciperlone: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:25] <ciperlone> thankx guyz ;)
[17:26] <ubuntu__> abend an alle
[17:27] <ciperlone> i want to kill this process: aptitude. how can I do that in a command line?
[17:27] <romunov> ps -e
[17:27] <romunov> it will list your processes
[17:27] <romunov> pkill <process number>
[17:28] <bsander> that, or sudo killall aptitude
[17:28] <Chousuke> ciperlone: note that if you kill aptitude it will leave behind a lock file
[17:28] <Chousuke> ciperlone: that will prevent you from using APT until you delete it
[17:29] <ciperlone> i'm doing all these questions because i what to make an aptitude upgrade, and i can't
[17:29] <ciperlone> how to do the right thing?
[17:29] <Kingzar> is there an application that can check if i have mail on my hotmail account?
[17:29] <Chousuke> ciperlone: what does aptitude say when you try to upgrade?
[17:30] <Schuenemann> an email client?
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: hmm i'm only aware of apps for gmail/.
[17:30] <Kingzar> :(
[17:30] <Kingzar> that's something i appreciate alot
[17:30] <Kingzar> and my hotmail is my main account
[17:30] <nosrednaekim> well, check around, thre might be
[17:31] <Kingzar> got some tips what to look for?
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> !info gotmail
[17:31] <ubotu> gotmail: utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 136 kB
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> ^^
[17:31] <Kingzar> lol thanks
[17:32] <justin_> whats the best to download gmail accounts?
[17:32] <Chousuke> download gmail? :P
[17:32] <bsander> Kingzar: I believe kopete (instant messaging) program notifies you as well, don't know if you use that :)
[17:32] <justin_> yeah but not very often lol
[17:32] <Chousuke> any imap-capable mail client will do just fine for gmail.
[17:32] <ciperlone> Chousuke: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:33] <justin_> i am using checkgmail right now but it isnt wanting to work right for gutsy :-/
[17:33] <Chousuke> ciperlone: that's the lock file I was talking about
[17:33] <Kingzar> bsander:  exactly what justin said
[17:33] <Chousuke> ciperlone: also
[17:33] <Kingzar> i got no notification and when i entered i saw 3 new mails
[17:33] <Chousuke> ciperlone: did you run aptitude with sudo?
[17:33] <justin_> lol it worked AWESOME in feisty
[17:33] <Chousuke> as in "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[17:33] <bsander> hehe ok
[17:33] <Jyzygzel-> su
[17:33] <Jyzygzel-> kissa2
[17:34] <Schuenemann> martijn81, wtf... I can't even scroll forward the movie
[17:34] <Jyzygzel-> ignore that
[17:34] <bsander> :D
[17:34] <lg188_> !wtf |Schuenemann
[17:34] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:34] <justin_> anyone know if kcheckgmail has progressed recently? i used it while ago but it was real unstable
[17:35] <Nightrose> I want to install KDE 4 rc2 and am following the instructions on kubuntu.org - it wants to uninstall kdebase-bin-kde3 - is that ok? will I still be able to use kde3?
[17:35] <bsander> justin_: kcheckgmail works fine, sometimes it doesn't work a couple of days because something in gmail has changed, but when that happens a new version is uploaded very fast
[17:36] <lg188_> Nightrose: i think not
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> Nightrose: thats fine.
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> Nightrose: they patched the kde3 libs to make them work better with kde4 or something like that.
[17:37] <martijn81> Schuenemann: you should, with the cursors
[17:37] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: ok thx a lot
[17:38] <lg188_> nosrednaekim: i don't make a change  in my KDE so i don't know a thing about them
[17:38] <martijn81> Schuenemann: is the movie completed?
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> lg188_: then pls don't give uneducated opinions
[17:38] <lg188_> nosrednaekim: kk
[17:38] <Schuenemann> martijn81, oh yeah, I launched mplayer accidentaly. Anyway, how do you control the brightness, contrast, etc? I don't see related options
[17:39] <martijn81> i dunno, never used them
[17:39] <Schuenemann> hmm
[17:39] <Mad> hi ppl
[17:39] <Mad> I want to play mp3 files on the amarok
[17:40] <Mad> and I couldnt
[17:40] <Mad> it asked to install mp3 support, I installed, still it doesnt play 'em
[17:40] <lg288> ??? i sould work Mad
[17:41] <Mad> what?
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> Mad: install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:41] <jpatrick> Mad: have you restarted amarok?
[17:41] <lg288> Mad it should
[17:42] <Mad> ops
[17:42] <Mad> I guess I didnt restart it
[17:42] <Mad> xD
[17:43] <ijn> hi all
[17:43] <nosrednaekim> hey ijn
[17:43] <ijn> how to install macromedia shockwave in kubuntu
[17:43] <lg288> Mad it should  everyone should remember ...
[17:43] <lg288> ijn: hello
[17:43] <ijn> firefox 0.11
[17:44] <ijn> ?
[17:44] <ijn>  :-)
[17:44] <lg288> ijn: got to site of adobe and search foor macromedia
[17:44] <lg288> for*
[17:44] <ijn> it is a tar-bz file
[17:44] <ijn> cant deal with it
[17:44] <Schuenemann> martijn81, argh... the video is too bright
[17:45] <ijn> cant find .deb???
[17:45] <ciperlone> is there an utility somewhere to configure the login screen?
[17:45] <Schuenemann> well, at least in kmplayer
[17:45] <Kingzar> ciperlone:  i want to know the same
[17:45] <nosrednaekim> !flash | ijn
[17:45] <ubotu> ijn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:45] <Kingzar> i once donwloaded a theme, but lack of knowledge i just quit
[17:45] <lg288> it and installs  it self after klick it
[17:46] <ijn> im kubuntu 7.10
[17:46] <lg288> aargh
[17:46] <nosrednaekim> ijn: then simply install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[17:47] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[17:47]  * lg288 getting hysteric of my mother who is irritating me
[17:47] <ijn> from adept?
[17:48] <nosrednaekim> ijn: yes
[17:48] <ijn> ok thanks
[17:48] <lg288> who needs help
[17:49] <Kingzar> I lg288
[17:49] <lg288> Kingzar: kk
[17:49] <Schuenemann> I do
[17:49] <Schuenemann> I want to change video settings in kmplayer
[17:49] <Kingzar> i want to know how i install a different login theme
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> !kdmtheme
[17:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:50] <lg288> Kingzar: you have a login theme ? (i never used it) is it in package ???
[17:50] <Kingzar> well not really it's just a .tar with some .png's and a .login file i think
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> !theme
[17:50] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:50] <MacAnthony> How do I get KNetworkManager to recognize my working wireless adapter?
[17:51] <sbcl3> I'm trying to install kde 3.5.8 from source into my home directory. However, I get this message at a ./configure : (kdelibs prefix is /home/sbcl3/kde, aRts prefix is /usr). I can't remove arts without destroying the KDE from apt-get. Can I build it?
[17:51] <lg288> nosrednaekim: you can help him i don't use a other theme so i have no knowledge of it
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> !kdm
[17:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:51] <Kingzar> i'll show you what i have
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> sbcl3: itd be safeer to uninstall all of KDE3 first
[17:52] <Kingzar> i tried to get this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/%27CylonOS%27+for+KDM?content=51990
[17:52] <sbcl3> It's not possible to have two installations of KDE?
[17:52] <Kingzar> if i download it i get a tar with some files i have no clue what to do with it
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> !kdm
[17:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:52] <smooker> where i can see my CPU Temerature ?
[17:52] <smooker> how*
[17:53] <Kingzar> why don't they put a readme with the files :P
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> sbcl3: it is, but you have to set some prefixes correctly
[17:53] <zphinx> Does kubuntu support installing the latest ati drivers on gutsy?
[17:53] <ciperlone> is there an utility somewhere to configure the login screen?
[17:53] <zphinx> For some reason DRI isnt enabled now.
[17:53] <sbcl3> nosrednaekim: if I compile arts first to the same place would it work?
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: manually, yes, I have done it
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> sbcl3: maybe, I'm really not familiar with doing that
[17:53] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: worked for me.
[17:54] <lg288> Kingzar: i think go to system setting/.
[17:54] <zphinx> i just did it, set up two spanning monitors as well.. now when i run glxinfo | grep direct i get "no"
[17:54] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: The latest I have used is 7.1 from ATI
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> !info kdmtheme
[17:54] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB
[17:54]  * lg288 starts up his kubuntu on his computer
[17:54] <zphinx> with the dri module loaded in xorg.conf
[17:54] <Schuenemann> Kingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40&PHPSESSID=bfc09874ada94afb573b91600534a490
[17:55] <ijn> hey guys what is the best video palyer for kubuntu/kde???
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: you need that kdmtheme package ^^
[17:55] <ciperlone> zphinx: use ENVY
[17:55] <zphinx> ciperlone: whats that?
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[17:55] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:55] <Kingzar> Dohhh nosrednaekim
[17:55] <Kingzar> but wha tto do with the files
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> do NOT use envy
[17:55] <ijn> I need something to paly videos and stream
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: that program will install them for you.
[17:55] <MilitantPotato> tdo NOT use evny!
[17:55] <ciperlone> nosrednaekim:why?
[17:55] <ijn> web sites like youtube stage6 and moviebar.org
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: remove the "composite disable" section from your xorg
[17:56] <MilitantPotato> Envy very rarely works, and when it does break your drivers no-one will be willing to help ya repair it
[17:56] <ijn> in gnome totem with gstreamer was fine
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> ciperlone: because it is unsupported and potentially dangerous
[17:56] <lg288> ijn: www.youtube.com is one why jot use it ?
[17:56] <ijn> you tube uses flash
[17:57] <ciperlone> nosrednaekim: i didn't know. but it works ok with me in nvidia gforce 8600m
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> !worksforme
[17:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> ijn: I like VLC and Kaffein
[17:57] <zphinx> nosrednaekim: no mention of composite in my conf.
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: are you using xgl?
[17:57] <ijn> I also need the pauer to have a plugin for firefox
[17:57] <zphinx> no
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> Kaffeine***
[17:57] <lg288> my logon screen sucks it font is extremly big
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: this is the 7.11 ati drivers?
[17:57] <zphinx> yes
[17:57] <ijn> but kaffeine cant read for me any thing from stage6
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: hmm how did you install them?
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> lg288: sounds like your xorg.conf has a weird virtual resolution?
[17:58] <ijn> does it have a plugin ??
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> ijn: does for me, have you installed the proper codecs?
[17:58] <zphinx> nosrednaekim: downloaded the binary from the ati site, and ran it.
[17:58] <lg288> MilitantPotato: owkk
[17:58] <ijn> plugin kaffeine /firefox
[17:58] <Schuenemann> Kingzar, http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: you didn't generate packages or anything funny like that?
[17:58] <zphinx> nope
[17:58] <number21pix> i
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: did you uninstall the old ati drivers forst (if you had them installed)
[17:58] <sivaji> knetworkmanager is not wokring ,it says no active device found , my /var/log/syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f40078a4c
[17:58] <lg288> Kingzar: i got it systemsettings/logonscreen
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: and you also need to disable the included fglrx driver
[17:59] <Kingzar> ok
[17:59] <ijn> MilitantPotato: I installeed automatix
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> lg288: that is the wrong place.
[17:59] <MilitantPotato> ijn: get MediaPlayer Connectivity plugin for firefox
[17:59] <lg288> nosrednaekim:  ???
[17:59] <lg288> nosrednaekim:  where is it then ?
[17:59] <ijn> is this for kaffeine plugin??
[17:59] <MilitantPotato> ijn: it's at the mozilla extensions website
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> lg288: thats not the correct module for changing the theme
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> lg288: you have to install the kdmtheme package, and them do it from kcontrol
[18:00] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: when you do !fglrxinfo what does it say? Mesa or ATI?
[18:00] <ijn> so ill go to mozilla web site and look for media player conectivity for kaffeine??
[18:00] <zphinx> mesa
[18:00] <number21pix> i am looking for a good video editor-- any suggestions? is there anything that is as stable as adobe premiere?
[18:00] <lg288> nosrednaekim:  oh kk then
[18:00] <ijn> is that right?
[18:01] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: pastebin your xorg.conf
[18:01] <Kingzar> nosrednaekim:  if i install kdm theme manager it doesn't interfere with KDE?
[18:01] <MilitantPotato> ijn: just MediaPlayer Connectivity
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: did you disable the included fglrx driver in "/etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules"?
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> Kingzar: nope
[18:01] <Kingzar> ok
[18:01] <ijn> but where?
[18:01] <MilitantPotato> ijn: It detects movies in webpages and lets you open them in a media player you want to use.
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> ijn: the FireFox extensions website
[18:02] <ijn> oh sound cool
[18:02] <ijn> ok
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> ijn: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=MEdiaPlayer&status=4
[18:02] <ijn> thanks
[18:02] <Jyzygzel-> how do i umount if it says "Device is busy"
[18:02] <MilitantPotato> sudo umount /dev/***
[18:02] <zphinx> nosrednaekim: so i shouldve deinstalled the previous drivers before upgrading?
[18:02] <Jyzygzel-> it says Device is busy
[18:03] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: holdon
[18:03] <Jyzygzel-> how do i see what process is using it
[18:03] <lg288> Jyzygzel-: 0.o
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: yes, but it'll work fine if you just do it now.
[18:03] <Jyzygzel-> jesu
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> Jyzygzel-: i just read this yesterday but have forgot it already :(
[18:03] <lg288> O.o
[18:03] <lg288> 8-)
[18:04] <Jyzygzel-> lsof | grep /mount/point
[18:05] <lg288> BenX is the best movie this year
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[18:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:05] <MilitantPotato> whats the keyboard shortcut to full screen a window?
[18:06] <lg288> !benx |lg288
[18:06] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: pastebin.com/m4ba4951e
[18:07] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: it's all messed up
[18:08] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: give me 5 mins ok?  make a backup of your current xorg.conf
[18:08] <zphinx> k
[18:08] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: also, make sure the only fglrx items installed came from your ATI compiled drivers.
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: which means you need to blacklist the included driver
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: He didn't remove the repo fglrx drivers?
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> zphinx:  edit this file and add fglrx to the disabled modules line /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[18:09] <sivaji> knetworkmanager is not wokring ,it says no active device found , my /var/log/syslog file is here http://pastebin.com/f40078a4c
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: well, the module isn't in the actual package.
[18:09] <sivaji> please someone   help me
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> kdesudo kate /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common like nos said
[18:09] <MilitantPotato> add fglrx inbetween the quotes
[18:10] <MilitantPotato> close and save, then give me 5 mins.
[18:10] <zphinx> done
[18:11] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: see if you can determine which address your video card is on
[18:12] <DerDritte> My screen resolutions seems to irregulary jump to a size my screen can't handle (I only see part of the whole screen, but my "viewport" seems to follow the mouse). When I restart the x-Server, everthing goes back to normal. Is that a known issue?
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> I'm seeing         BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: thats probably not wrong if he is getting any display signal at all ;)
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> Can you double check to see if that's right?
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: ah, ok :)
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: that usually only happens when you try to run a full-screen game at a lower resolution than your monitor
[18:13] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: 02:00:0
[18:13] <zphinx> secondary on 02:00:01
[18:13] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: I just happens after the splashscreen, also if I do absolutly nothing.
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: hmm
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: never heard of anyone complaining of that/
[18:15] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: crap...
[18:15] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: It isn't really an issue, it's just annoying.
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: doesn't mean its not a problem though. look thtough the bugs.
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> oh... its an issue :D
[18:16] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: Is there a console way to restart X without killing the session completly?
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: no
[18:17] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: thx.
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> restart x and everything goes.
[18:17] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: make sure you've backed up your current xorg.conf
[18:17] <zphinx> k
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> of course you can restart x on the command line with "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[18:17] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: then paste this inplace of the origional, if it fails to load your desktop, do you know how to reconfigure xserver?
[18:17] <zphinx> yeah
[18:18] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: ok cool, here it is http://pastebin.com/m586a8585
[18:18] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: wait.
[18:18] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: Which will kill my session of course :D
[18:18] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: it added some weird charictors.
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte:  yes
[18:19] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: the serverflags section?
[18:20] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: Do you think it could be a nvidia-issue?
[18:21] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: http://pastebin.com/m39ba67cc
[18:21] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: it replaced " with  ” in some spots for some reason
[18:22] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: do i really want aiglx if i plan to use opengl?
[18:22] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: you're using the drivers from ATI's website correct?
[18:22] <zphinx> yeah
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: could be. IDK
[18:22] <MilitantPotato> Those support AIGLX
[18:22] <MilitantPotato> it's buggy, but it runs.
[18:22] <Fredsky> Trying to load  6.06 on my HP notebook. qtparted gives me this error msg filesystem failed totally. 1 cluster accounting mis matches.
[18:22] <Fredsky> Any body see this before?
[18:23] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: If you don't want it you can always comment out DRI and composite aswell as that AIGLX flag
[18:23] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: but if you're doing that, I'd recommend using the Repo drivers and installing XGL
[18:23] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: if you're hoping to get compiz working
[18:24] <zphinx> i might, fighting with cedega atm, so glx is a second concern :=)
[18:24] <zphinx> ill try the config now.
[18:24] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: I installed everything - nothing seems to be broken thx ;-) - next problem: when I want to start a kde4 session the screen goes black and it gets me back to the loginscreen - any ideas?
[18:24] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: any heads up on how to reinstall the nv-driver?
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> Nightrose: run "touch .kde4/share/startupconfig"
[18:25] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: thx
[18:25] <zphinx> well that didnt seem to work :/
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: nope.
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> DerDritte: I'man ATI user
[18:25] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: yea a type-o
[18:25] <DerDritte> nosrednaekim: Oh noes! ^^
[18:26] <zphinx> MilitantPotato: where?
[18:26] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: two modules sections
[18:26] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: got happy with ctrl+v
[18:26] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: keep the top most one with 4 modules
[18:27] <zphinx> Fatal server error: no screens found
[18:27] <MilitantPotato> really, I didn't touch your screen.
[18:27] <zphinx> undefined defive "aticonfig-device[0]" reference bu Screen "aticonfig-Screen[0]".
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: re-run the installer, the kernel module may be mesed up.
[18:27] <zphinx> device even
[18:28] <MilitantPotato> http://pastebin.com/m4852ca86
[18:28] <MilitantPotato> try that, if that fails with the same, it might need the 02:00:01 ?
[18:28] <zphinx> hrm
[18:28] <zphinx> yeah
[18:28] <MilitantPotato> give that link a shot first though
[18:29] <zphinx> blah
[18:29] <MilitantPotato> nothing?
[18:29] <zphinx> now the installer failed to install compiled kernel module.
[18:29] <MilitantPotato> did you do depmod -a?
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: did you run it as root?
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> sudo even..
[18:30] <zphinx> no, and yes
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> ok
[18:30] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: let me snag a link for the method I used
[18:31] <Ornedan> hanna: Thanks. Commenting out the lines for the interface in question (eth1) in /etc/network/interfaces worked. Though altering the file did cause some driver to go fubar - constant enter keypresses started being registered immediately after saving the modified file. But the interface is back under networkmanager's control after a reboot :P
[18:31] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348
[18:31] <prxq> hello all. Any nice app to access the webcam from kubuntu feisty? According to the kernel, the webcam is recognized alright. But I can't find a program to access it.
[18:31] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: that's worked for myself and 5 others I've done the ATI install with
[18:32] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: the commands you'll need to change to match the latest package names
[18:32] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: at least up to 7.10
[18:32] <MilitantPotato> I've not tried 7.11 since I hate the lag in firefox using compiz
[18:34] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: unfortunately didn´t help :( any other ideas?
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> prxq: hmm don't know...search through the repositories
[18:35] <DerDritte> thx guys.
[18:35] <nosrednaekim> ah sorry, just looked through my bash history and its "touch .kde4/share/config/startupconfig"
[18:35] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: ;-) will try
[18:36] <prxq> nosrednaekim: already tried that. Nothing that looks useful. I thought maybe the there is something like "webkam" or something :-)
[18:36] <zphinx> hm
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> prxq: you are in luck "webcam" is available ;)
[18:36] <zphinx> how nice
[18:37] <MilitantPotato> prxq: for messaging or...?
[18:37] <zphinx> seems to be no such thing as a restricted manager on my system'
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: restricted-manager-kde
[18:38] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: wohoooo you are a genius - thank you :) /me has got a running kde4
[18:39] <prxq> MilitantPotato: basically, I just want to see wether it works :-)
[18:39] <prxq> right now at least.
[18:39] <MilitantPotato> !webcam
[18:39] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> Nightrose: sweet-looking eh?
[18:40] <Nightrose> nosrednaekim: indeed - and it is soooo fast on my lame laptop compared to kde3
[18:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I noticed that too, even with compositing on.
[18:40] <prxq> MilitantPotato: thank you!
[18:40] <MilitantPotato> thank ubotu :P
[18:41] <Oakbox> Hi all, im having trouble with my audigy 2 platinum pro.   I cant get the volume control or IR remote to work on the external box.  Can anyone help?
[18:42] <prxq> MilitantPotato: Iubotu won't pass the turing test anytime soon :-)
[18:45] <jhutchins> prxq: It's really not meant to, it's more of a card index.
[18:46] <jhutchins> Oakbox: That's pretty much to the alsa driver, except the IR for the remote which might be handled by lirc.  Google is your friend on both of those.
[18:48] <prxq> hm... no /dev/video.
[18:49] <zphinx> sigh
[18:49] <zphinx> still no DRI
[18:49] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: ok.... did you disable that module and reboot?
[18:49] <zphinx> ill try a reboot then
[18:49] <zphinx> followed the howto potato gave me
[18:50] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: yeah, try a reboot
[18:50] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: mike make the kernel a bit ore sane ;)
[18:50] <nosrednaekim> *might
[18:52] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: check your xorg.0.log when you get back for DRI entries
[18:52] <zphinx> w00t, there we go
[18:52] <zphinx> restricted driver manager even picked them up
[18:52] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: dri?
[18:53] <MilitantPotato> zphinx: yea a reboot to load the modules is the easiest route
[18:53] <MilitantPotato> i guess you could modprobe them, but meh.
[18:53] <zphinx> lets see how well they work with cedega/wine
[18:53] <zphinx> nosrednaekim: yeah
[18:53] <MilitantPotato> direct rendering working?
[18:53] <MilitantPotato> nvm :)
[18:54] <zphinx> yeah
[18:54] <nosrednaekim> zphinx: congrats, though I find AIGLX the killer feature
[18:54]  * nosrednaekim isn't a gamer
[18:54] <MilitantPotato> AIGLX still has some major bugs :(
[18:54] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: works for me with my Xpress1100 and kwin4
[18:55] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: if you use compiz does firefox cause Xorg to have 100% cpu usage and lag badly?
[18:56] <nosrednaekim> haven't tried compiz.
[18:57] <earthsound> i currently have a dual boot environment, with Windows XP & Kubuntu 6.06LTS. I downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 iso and am now running from the live cd. i'd like to install this on top of 6.06 by reformatting the / partition.
[18:58] <earthsound> will it keep the grub settings from the earlier install?
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> earthsound: no.... and all of your files will also be erased
[18:59] <Oakbox> jhutchins: thanks :)
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> earthsound: although there is a good chance that the grub settings will be the same
[19:00] <MilitantPotato> yea grub should detect the XP install
[19:00] <earthsound> nosrednaekim: i chose to manually edit the partitions and selected to reformat the previous / partition and use the same /swap as well. the others are not going to be overwritten
[19:01] <MilitantPotato> earthsound: if grub is on the linux partition it will get erased when you format
[19:01] <earthsound> i.e. i will leave the main windows partition, the shared ntfs partition and the /home paritition intact
[19:01] <MilitantPotato> earthsound: unless you did some customization to grub it should work the same after 7.10 is installed
[19:02] <MilitantPotato> earthsound: you'll need to set the /home mount point again
[19:02] <MilitantPotato> you won't need to format it, just set the path as /home
[19:02] <earthsound> MilitantPotato: so grub should be smart enough to detect the windows partition and put the correct parameters in?
[19:02] <nosrednaekim> earthsound: if it did it with 6.06, yes, it will
[19:02] <earthsound> yes, you're right, I forgot to point to the /home
[19:02] <MilitantPotato> earthsound: yep, should work great.
[19:02] <earthsound> thanks, i'll give it a shot
[19:03] <MilitantPotato> earthsound: usually the only issues come from installing a windows OS after linux, it likes to trash grub
[19:04] <Pupeno> How can I watch a dvd I have as iso on my hard drive?
[19:04] <MilitantPotato> VLC
[19:04] <MilitantPotato> with the proper codecs
[19:05] <MilitantPotato> !codecs
[19:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:05] <Pupeno> MilitantPotato: I think I have the codecs, because I was able to watch the DVD from the disc.
[19:05] <MilitantPotato> try opening it in VLC then, should work
[19:05] <Pupeno> MilitantPotato: thank you.
[19:05] <MilitantPotato> VLC is a great light weight media player
[19:06] <Oakbox> MilitantPotato: Is there an easy fix to a trashed grub? i have unfortunatly aquired one :) a nice xmas present from windows....
[19:07] <MilitantPotato> Oakbox: several, you can create a grub installer floppy, manually edit grub, or get a ISO like "The Ultimate Boot CD", it comes with the grub installer
[19:07] <MilitantPotato> Oakbox: if windows broke grub, you'll need to re-install it.
[19:07] <MilitantPotato> Grub*
[19:08] <Eduardiyo> hi, i have a webcam whit chipset 518, but, when a try to check this and using it, i received the next message: Error: Can't open display: :0.0. helpppppppppp
[19:09] <Dr_willis> Cant open display - sounds like you are running the app as the wrong user.
[19:09] <Oakbox> MilitantPotato: windows broke grub yeah, is there no way to just add it back into the MBR?
[19:10] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[19:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> Oakbox: with a grub install disk :)
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> ty Dr_willis
[19:10] <Oakbox> MilitantPotato: ta ok i will go look thanks :)
[19:11] <Dr_willis> Grub is one of those tools thats so fundamental to linux - that it pays to spend a few hrs reading/learning about it.
[19:11] <MilitantPotato> what's the other popular boot manager?
[19:11] <Dr_willis> LILO used to be common.
[19:11] <MilitantPotato> Lilo, thanks
[19:12] <Dr_willis> But lilo is a bit out of date and has issues on many systems. Well not as bad as it used to be.. :)
[19:12] <sigma_kubuntu> anyone here used limewire for linux?
[19:13] <MilitantPotato> limewire is evil :)
[19:13] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[19:13] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[19:13] <Dr_willis> I perfer Frostwire :)
[19:13] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[19:13] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[19:14] <sigma_kubuntu> does frostwire use the limewire network?
[19:14] <Dr_willis> Both are GNUTELLA NETWORK clients
[19:14] <LjL> !gnutella
[19:14] <ubotu> Gnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P
[19:14] <Dr_willis> :) its not limewires network.
[19:15] <Dr_willis> and frostwire works great for me.
[19:17] <sigma_kubuntu> so basically limewire is a client to the gnutella network that u just use to access it?
[19:18] <LjL> just like all filesharing clients are clients to some network
[19:19] <sigma_kubuntu> oh i thought limewire was a network on its own
[19:19] <sigma_kubuntu> my bad!
[19:19] <LjL> no, limewire is just a program
[19:20] <MilitantPotato> Anyone know if the old napster servers are floating around?
[19:21] <MilitantPotato> nvm I'm getting off topic
[19:22] <sigma_kubuntu> wats da reason limewire is evil? oh and are there any kde based clients (not java) that i can browse the gnutella network with?
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: KMLdonkey.
[19:22] <ardchoille> sigma_kubuntu: apt-cache search utella
[19:23] <Dr_willis> limewiare has annoying spam/ads/and other things. :)O
[19:23] <Dr_willis> Why not use a totall Open sourced variant.
[19:24] <sigma_kubuntu> yeah i didnt knw there wer linux alternatives. i was so scared using it on my last remaining windows pc
[19:25] <sigma_kubuntu> dr willis i think il use kmldonkey
[19:28] <LjL> whops he left... after making the worst possible choice :>
[19:30] <dsmith_> !pgp
[19:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:30] <dsmith_> anyone know how to get started with pgp for linux?
[19:31] <ardchoille> !info kgpg | dsmith_
[19:31] <ubotu> dsmith_: kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 454 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[19:31] <LjL> !gpg
[19:31] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[19:31] <ardchoille> dsmith_: That should get you started
[19:31] <dsmith_> thx!
[19:31] <dsmith_> :)
[19:36] <penguin42> anyone found a way to get the 4rc2 running in a nested X session - xephyr crashes during KDE startup for me, and Xnest really doesn't seem happy (lots of stuff looks like it's redndered at 1bpp)
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> penguin42: try ".touch kde4/share/config/startupconfig" file
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> *touch
[19:39] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: To fix which of those cases?
[19:40] <nosrednaekim> the first
[19:40] <tehm0nk> Anyone a guru with dual booting? and possibly Raid?
[19:40] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: OK, will give it a go
[19:40] <tehm0nk> i'm having tons of issues
[19:41] <tehm0nk> and i'bve messed with it so much that i messed up my vista boot process
[19:41] <jordan__> Anyone remember using the GL Carousel screensaver? I'm using Gutsy and I can't seem to find the darn thing.
[19:41] <tehm0nk> so... i have to use the super grub disk to boot into windows.
[19:41] <tehm0nk> i still cannot get grub to boot the linux partitions either i think they are too far into the hard drive to boot supposedly
[19:42] <jordan__> tehm0nk: hahah
[19:42] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: Ah yes, that did the trick!  There seems to be lots of apport reported Xephyr crashes - might not be that stable yet
[19:42] <_nix_> tehm0nk: as long as grub is reachable to the BIOS it doesn't matter where the rest of the stuff is
[19:42] <tehm0nk> but how do i do that?
[19:43] <tehm0nk> can Grub be on the partition that is actually windows boot & it's pagefile partition?
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> penguin42: its not an xephyr problem, its a startkde problem, or maybe even a packaging bug.... in any case it crashes X as well if you run it standalone
[19:44] <jordan__> ping
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> pong
[19:44] <jordan__> nosrednaekim: thx
[19:45] <jordan__> nosrednaekim: You using gutsy?
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> jordan__: yes
[19:45] <jordan__> nosrednaekim: have you found the carousel GL screensaver that use to come with the previous release?
[19:45] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: Ah nasty; if X is crashing then it's most likely an X server problem - apps shouldn't be able to segfault the X server
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> penguin42: the problem is that kde can't find that file and crashes
[19:46] <penguin42> hmm annoying - it managed to do stuff to the main display as well
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> jordan__: I don't use GL screensavers
[19:46] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: No, the X server is segfaulting - that's not KDEs fault (even if KDE is dying)
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[19:46] <jordan__> nosrednaekim: ok.. thanks
[19:47] <penguin42> however that fix does stop whatever it did to the X server that upset it
[19:47] <penguin42> plasma is pretty
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> lol
[19:48] <tehm0nk> Right now GRUB seems to be reachable to the bios, it would try to boot, but it would just like Run grub
[19:48] <tehm0nk> and i'd end up with GRUB >
[19:49] <tehm0nk> and nothing to do from there that i knew how to do...
[19:52] <penguin42> nosrednaekim: Thanks
[19:52] <Manyfold> is there a way to install an english dictionary for konservation while keeping the german language settings?
[19:52] <INFOEXCLUDED> what are unicast packets ?
[19:53] <INFOEXCLUDED> are they coming fro the chast university ?
[19:53] <jim__> !lpcre
[19:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lpcre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:58] <tehm0nk> so does anyone here dual boot?
[19:59] <martijn81> tehm0nk: i do
[20:00] <tehm0nk> martijn81 did you install your linux first or soemthing else?
[20:00] <tehm0nk> martijn81 are you using raid?
[20:00] <martijn81> i did install windows first, but i can dd the mbr back whenever i want (dangerous though)
[20:01] <Dannilion> tehm0nk: it depends what you're dualbooting with :)
[20:01] <martijn81> yes and no: only raid on a single boot machine
[20:01] <Dannilion> If it's Windows install that first- it's much easier
[20:01] <martijn81> yup
[20:01] <tehm0nk> Dannilion i beg to differ, i cannpt get the linux thing to boot...
[20:01] <kiiz> pls can any one explain how to setup tap device on kubuntu host
[20:02] <tehm0nk> and i messed up my windows boot thing now too lol
[20:02] <Dannilion> explain, tehm0nk?
[20:02] <tehm0nk> i have to boot windows a rinky dink way with supergrub disk...
[20:03] <tehm0nk> i think my partitions were not setup quite right or i didn't stick grub in the right place.
[20:03] <tehm0nk> here are my partitions...
[20:03] <martijn81> !pastebin
[20:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:04] <tehm0nk> #1 Boot/swap file for Vista 3gb #2 Vista 100gb #3 Linux swap 1.5g #4 / for linux 15g #5 /home for linux 30g
[20:05] <tehm0nk> can Grub be on the boot/swap partition with the vista boot sthings?
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: boot/swap? whats that?
[20:05] <martijn81> tehm0nk: NO
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: install grub to the MBR
[20:05] <martijn81> grub needs to be in te MBR of the disk.
[20:05] <tehm0nk> ok
[20:06] <tehm0nk> stay here for a second and let me boot into kubuntu to actully Try to get this working right...
[20:06] <tehm0nk> well boot the live CD
[20:06] <tehm0nk> ok?
[20:06] <martijn81> k
[20:08] <kiiz> does any one run qemu under kubuntu
[20:08] <ubuntu> hey !
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> kiiz: I use virtualbox
[20:09] <ubuntu> ...
[20:09] <ubuntu> l
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> hello ubuntu
[20:09] <ubuntu> Hi !
[20:09] <ubuntu> Ahhhhhhhh
[20:09] <ubuntu> I'm goin mad
[20:11] <ubuntu> why my kopete is crashin ?
[20:11] <kiiz> nosrednaekim: is virtual box easier to use than qemu. i can get host tap device to work
[20:12] <kiiz> nosrednaekim: is virtual box easier to use than qemu. i can't get host tap device to work
[20:12] <Dagon> Is there any way to speed up add/remove programs? There appears to be 10 to 30 second wait before another app can be selected
[20:12] <nosredna_ekim> kiiz: virtualbox is way easier
[20:13] <martijn81> tehm0nk: and?
[20:14] <tehm0nk> ok
[20:14] <tehm0nk> all i did was reboot into the live cd
[20:14] <tehm0nk> !grub
[20:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:14] <tehm0nk> i've tried a lot of the stuff on there
[20:14] <tehm0nk> and everything to tell grub to do is all the same...
[20:15] <kiiz> nosredna_ekim: does the deb download work right of the box.i have't been able to set up my internet connection on kubuntu
[20:17] <kiiz> nosredna_ekim: does the deb download from 'virtualbox.com'  work right of the box.i have't been able to set up my internet connection on kubuntu
[20:17] <thomax> kiiz: normally it should
[20:17] <martijn81> tehm0nk: the live cd only allows you to install in the MBR, so this is just fine
[20:17] <tehm0nk> ok
[20:18] <tehm0nk> here lemme reproduce the errors i was getting in grub
[20:19] <tehm0nk> grub> root (hd0,
[20:19] <tehm0nk>  Possible partitions are:
[20:19] <tehm0nk>    Partition num: 0,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x6
[20:19] <tehm0nk>    Partition num: 1,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[20:19] <tehm0nk>    Partition num: 3,
[20:19] <tehm0nk> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[20:20] <newguyss> hi, I use kubuntu, just added new HD, where can I find it ?
[20:20] <earl_> hey there fellas hows it goin
[20:20] <martijn81> ah, you install grub manually now, then just follow a guide
[20:21] <earl_> im on www.kubuntu.com reading the instructions about how to install KDE4 and the last instruction kinda threw me for a loop
[20:21] <tehm0nk> install it where?
[20:21] <tehm0nk> lol
[20:21] <martijn81> in the MBR, i guess that would be 0
[20:22] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: whats the last instruction?
[20:22] <earl_> ahem,
[20:22] <earl_> "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm."
[20:23] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: no need to do that, just run it from kdm
[20:23] <earl_> as in, when it asks me for a username and password, pick "kde4"
[20:23] <martijn81> earl: that is if you want to emulate the OS
[20:23] <earl_> right?
[20:23] <earl_> oh.
[20:23] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: run this command though, "touch .kde4/share/config/startupconfig"
[20:23] <earl_> forget that.
[20:23] <Artimus> I've got a nice little 2.8ghz Celeron that seems to support CPU Frequency Scaling with p4_clockmod.  I've tried using various KDE apps to display what speed my CPU is running at, but a lot of them seem to be laptop only...  Any recommendations?
[20:23] <earl_> whats that do
[20:23] <tehm0nk> i have to tell grub where stagel is tho right?
[20:23] <tehm0nk>  /boot/grub/stage1
[20:24] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: well, for guidance powermanager you can modify a line in the code so it works.
[20:24] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: try kpowermanager
[20:24] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: it fixes a bug in the program
[20:24] <earl_> i should run this when
[20:24] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: you select KDE4 from the sessions menu
[20:24] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: right now.
[20:24] <earl_> after installinge verything else but before running kde4?
[20:25] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: right
[20:25] <earl_> k.
[20:26] <tehm0nk> i have to mount my hard drives while in the live cd somehow to point it to the right place tho right?
[20:27] <nosredna_ekim> tehm0nk: to read the menu.lst, yes
[20:27] <tehm0nk> ok so how do i do that?
[20:27] <kristian_> hi und abend an alle
[20:27] <kristian_> ich hab problem
[20:28] <ardchoille> !de | kristian_
[20:28] <ubotu> kristian_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:28] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: guidance-power-manager spits out a ton of python errors...  I'm trying to find something useful.
[20:28] <nosredna_ekim> tehm0nk: "sudo mount /dev/the-device-slash-is-on /mnt"
[20:28] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: lol, what is it?I know that program pretty well
[20:28] <tehm0nk> do i need dmraild to find where it is?
[20:29] <nosredna_ekim> tehm0nk: yeah, no clue how to do it with raid.
[20:29] <mark__> How's flash in KDE on a 64 bit?
[20:29] <earl_> mike anderson backwards, have you tried KDE4 yet?
[20:29] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: works well here
[20:29] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: yes, using it full time.
[20:29] <adamonline45> Hi all.  What do I use to record, say, an hour of audio?
[20:30] <earl_> really
[20:30] <earl_> that stable already?
[20:30] <mark__> That's good, nosred.  Agrajag's here as well!
[20:30] <mark__> He's stalking me :p
[20:30] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: Last error: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files.
[20:31] <earl_> i was about to ask what your opinion was of it but i guess there you have it
[20:31] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: its pretty stable for me, you results may vary
[20:31] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: ewww, dbus errors
[20:31] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: This is a fresh Gutsy install, by the way.
[20:31] <jussi01> adamonline45: audacity should do it
[20:31] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: ummm jst try using kpowersave
[20:31] <nosredna_ekim> :D
[20:31] <mark__> I really like xfce.  I'll be sad to replace it :(
[20:31] <shamas> hi, has anybody encountered a problem installing programs in Kubuntu
[20:31] <shamas> I just installed kubuntu today
[20:32] <shamas> and when I try to install anything I get an error
[20:32] <jussi01> shamas: what error?
[20:32] <nosredna_ekim> shamas: what error.
[20:32] <mark__> What's the error?
[20:32] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: It's installing...  On my Athlon64, it complained the box was not a laptop, if I remember right.  Here's hoping this recognizes better.
[20:32] <mark__> Oh god
[20:32] <adamonline45> jussi01: I've got audacity, it doesn't seem to read my line-in.  I suspect it's a system thing more than an Audacity thing... Dang...
[20:32] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: humm ok
[20:32] <mark__> I'm thinking of installing Kubuntu on an Athlon64
[20:33] <tehm0nk> does anyone know how to mount a raid partition?
[20:33] <jussi01> adamonline45: ok. well audacity will definately do it no probs.
[20:33] <mark__> Thanks a bundle Artimus :-p
[20:33] <jussi01> !raid
[20:33] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:33] <nosredna_ekim> mark__:  don't worry, it works fine on Athlons
[20:33] <mark__> Now I'm worried I'll have problems too
[20:33] <shamas> jusi: I get could not commit changes - adept installer
[20:33] <adamonline45> jussi01: Aight, ty 8)
[20:33] <jussi01> !tab | shamas
[20:33] <ubotu> shamas: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[20:33] <mark__> AMD65 = Athlon64, right?
[20:33] <Artimus> mark__: Umm...  That we me just trying to setup a nice GUI for underclocking.
[20:34] <pacman> I'm wanting to hook up my other hard drive, and it has Windows on it...I was trying to get it to work and it wouldn't detect
[20:34] <Artimus> mark__: It works perfectly fine otherwise
[20:34] <mark__> AMD64
[20:34] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: athlon64 generally denotes non-x2's
[20:34] <mark__> Ah right
[20:34] <Artimus> Oh I love this.
[20:34] <nosredna_ekim> single core
[20:34] <mark__> What's underclocking?
[20:34] <tehm0nk> can anyone one help the boon?
[20:34] <Artimus> "This machine does not support ACPI, APM, PMU, CPUFreq, Suspend2Disk norSuspend2RAM.  Close KPowersave now."
[20:34] <lavacano201014> sigma_kubuntu: nice name.
[20:34] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: the opposite of overclocking... to save power
[20:34] <mark__> Ah right
[20:34] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: eh?
[20:34] <nosredna_ekim> wow
[20:35] <jussi01> tehm0nk: did you look at the links earlier from the bot?
[20:35] <mark__> Sounds complicated and dangerous
[20:35] <shamas> jussi01: it says - there was an error commiting changes. it's possible that there was a problem downloading some of the packages, or that the commit would break other packages
[20:35] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: Needless to say, dmesg seems to disagree with kpowersave.
[20:35] <mark__> Are you sure you wouldn't prefer to smuggle plutonium in your underwear?
[20:35] <Artimus> Command line time...
[20:35] <tehm0nk> jussi01: the links really dont help that much when you're going off of one link to install this or that, then that gives you an error
[20:35] <Artimus> GUI's are not getting me anywhere today
[20:35] <etfb> shamas: usually that happens to me when I've got the wrong repositories in my source list
[20:35] <earl_> hey is anyone running ATI graphics
[20:35] <jussi01> shamas: click the fetch updates button
[20:35] <etfb> shamas: or when the internet connection is down
[20:35] <tehm0nk> if i follow the setups instructions for all of them they all fail at a certain point
[20:36] <tehm0nk> and there is no explaination
[20:36] <jussi01> earl_: I am, whats up?
[20:36] <earl_> i'm stilll running fglrx 8.42 - is there a newer version?
[20:36] <jhutchins> shamas: Are you using the gui or the console?
[20:36] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: yes
[20:36] <tehm0nk> it is something simple i know it is but no one will go through it with me
[20:36] <mark__> Wait a minute.  I already have a KDE OS on CD
[20:36] <tehm0nk> by the time i try something they say to do, they quit
[20:36] <mark__> But it's Fedora
[20:36] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: 7.11, or 8.43
[20:36] <shamas> jussi01: after I hit ok here, the program is installed however next time i go to install something I have to run this debugger
[20:36] <tehm0nk> then it's back to start
[20:36] <earl_> should i just install it using the scrip from ati.com
[20:36] <shamas> jhutchins: gui
[20:36] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: after uninstall the 8.42, yes
[20:36] <earl_> oh ew how do i do that
[20:37] <jhutchins> shamas: Try using aptitude in the console instead, you'll get more meaningful error messages you can use.
[20:37] <mark__> Should I continue downloading Kubuntu or just install Fed 8 instead? :p
[20:37] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: run the uninstall script from /usr/share/ati
[20:37] <jhutchins> !ati | earl_
[20:37] <ubotu> earl_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:37] <mark__> Mike!
[20:38] <jhutchins> mark__: I prefer kubuntu to fedora.
[20:38] <mark__> Okay
[20:38] <mark__> Kubby it is then
[20:38] <earl_> that would be fglrx-uninstall.sh right?
[20:39] <mark__> Hwo ready is KDE4?
[20:39] <sigma_kubuntu> fedora is useless. its 2commercial. kubuntu is nice and fresh
[20:39] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: yup
[20:39] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: not very
[20:39] <sigma_kubuntu> mark: its geting there. take it 4a test drive
[20:39] <shamas> jussi01: where is the fetch updates button?
[20:39] <earl_> okay so after i've uninstalled that, do i need to restart X before installing the new one?
[20:39] <nosredna_ekim> nope
[20:40] <earl_> k
[20:40] <nosredna_ekim> in fact, don't, because X will crash
[20:40] <Artimus> bwahaha...  My Pentium 4 is running at 350mhz.  Beautiful
[20:40] <mark__> What's the eye candy app for Kubuntu?
[20:40] <mark__> Is that good Arti?
[20:40] <nosredna_ekim> !compiz
[20:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:41] <Artimus> mark__: It'll jump back up to 2.8ghz when I do something important.
[20:41] <mark__> Oh. I thought it had its own
[20:41] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: heh
[20:41] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: kde4 does
[20:41] <nosredna_ekim> and kde3 has a pretty puny one.
[20:42] <Artimus> nosredna_ekim: I've got it on OnDemand right now.  I think that's what I used to use.  It sits low until I try to compile.
[20:42] <mark__> Do you people realise I'm replacing my entire operating system because Adobe are too lame to provide proper support for Flash on 64 bit linux?
[20:42] <nosredna_ekim> Artimus: yup.
[20:42] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: eh? what do you have installed right now?
[20:42] <mark__> Xubuntu
[20:42] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: gutsy?
[20:42] <earl_> excellent - so now i can quit this session, restart X, and choose KDE4, and my driver will work right? or do i have to do a full reboot
[20:42] <mark__> But I can't get flash working on it without having Firefox installed
[20:42] <Artimus> mark__: I ran 32-bit Kubuntu on my Athlon64 for two reasons.  Flash, and the fact that a certain kernel boot option is 32-bit only...
[20:43] <mark__> And I didn't leave Windows just to have a different beundled browser
[20:43] <nosredna_ekim> earl_: i'd restart
[20:43] <earl_> roger
[20:43] <earl_> okay let me give that a shot
[20:43] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: what browser do you use?
[20:43] <mark__> I did try running Swiftweasel, but I couldn't get my preferred apps to recognise it
[20:44] <mark__> Sorry. Swiftweasel32
[20:44] <mark__> for Athlon64
[20:44] <eshen87> hey can anyone help me with a quick problem im having on AmoroK?
[20:44] <sigma_kubuntu> mark: try flock
[20:44] <sigma_kubuntu> it looks great in kubuntu
[20:44] <nosredna_ekim> mark__: then kubuntu is not going to fix your problems
[20:45] <mark__> AH
[20:45] <PasteL> wintermute_: old
[20:45] <mark__> Drat
[20:45] <earthsound> !grub
[20:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:47] <nosredna_ekim> eshen87: what is it?
[20:47] <adamonline45> Where do I edit my aspci settings so my laptop spares NO power when it's plugged in?
[20:48] <thomax> adamonline45: install something like kpowermanager
[20:48] <adamonline45> thomax: Will do, ty!
[20:49] <thomax> adamonline45: there you can configure you power management setting
[20:49] <thomax> s
[20:49] <thomax> ;-)
[20:50] <tekteen> anyone know how to configure a hp remote control (that comes with laptops) to start up a different media program then amarok
[20:51] <sigma_kubuntu> prob have2change a keymap
[20:52] <tekteen> ok
[20:52] <Charles> new user - am i talking?
[20:52] <tekteen> Charles?
[20:52] <tekteen> u are talking
[20:52] <Charles> tekteen - Thanks for answering.
[20:52] <tekteen> np
[20:56] <rignes> Anyone ever see 7.10 go sleep for no good reason on a laptop?  I just had a laptop plugged into AC that's been on for hours (streaming music) and it just suspended to disk for no apparent reason.
[20:57] <habdel> hi there, did anybody succeed in running kde4 RC2 on kubuntu gutsy?
[20:58] <LjL> habdel: yes
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> habdel: yes
[20:59] <habdel> LjL: I can't login, whenever I am trying to login, it will log out
[20:59] <habdel> Is there a trick or something ?
[20:59] <LjL> habdel: have you done a dist-upgrade lately? there was a bug that would cause that, but i think it's been fixed days ago.
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> habdel: run this command "touch ~/.kde4/share/config/startupconfig"
[20:59] <ijn> hi all
[21:00] <ijn> what app do I have in kubuntu to install a .deb file???
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> ijn: dpkg, or Gdebi-kde
[21:00] <habdel> LjL: no dist-upgrade .. normal gutsy installation .. however I will try nosrednaekim trick then I will report back
[21:00] <LjL> habdel: i mean after first installing the kde4 packages. when did you install them?
[21:01] <ijn> can I download gdebi from adept?
[21:01] <LjL> !info gdebi-kde
[21:01] <ubotu> gdebi-kde: Simple tool to install deb files. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
[21:01] <LjL> ijn: that means "yes".
[21:01] <ijn> thanks
[21:07] <habdel> nosrednaekim:  nop it is not working, I am getting this weird error "ksmserver: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libplasma.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN15KConfigSkeleton11setDefaultsEv"
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> eh?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> wow.
[21:08] <habdel> nosrednaekim: are you using kubuntu-members-kde4's repo. ?
[21:08] <LjL> kubuntu-members-kde4?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> habdel: yes
[21:08] <LjL> ah yes
[21:09] <habdel> nosrednaekim: this is very odd, what about your distro ? kubuntu i386 ?
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> habdel: kubuntu gutsy amd64
[21:09] <AmyRose> !pm | baconero
[21:09] <ubotu> baconero: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> habdel: ermm try removing that file you touched...
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> "rm .kde/share/config/startupconfig"
[21:10] <habdel> nosrednaekim: I had the same problem even before touching that file
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> habdel: oh.
[21:11] <habdel> what about you LjL ? which kubuntu are using ?
[21:11] <LjL> same as you
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> habdel: did you run RC1?
[21:11] <habdel> nosrednaekim: yep. It was from different repo. I think it was thom* something
[21:12] <Dr_willis> !find thom
[21:12] <ubotu> Found: mathomatic, mathomatic-primes
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> habdel: ah... ok do " rm -rf .kde4" make SURE you put .kde4 there ;)
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> habdel: terrence simpson no doubt
[21:13] <s> greetings
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> hello s
[21:14] <s> hello nos
[21:15] <s> just wondering if someone could help me with my wireless problem.
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem?
[21:15] <habdel> nosrednaekim: nop, it seems a library error not a configuration one
[21:15] <ijn> hey guys does it worth it to try install kde4 now or wait for it release from repos???
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> habdel: did you uninstall all the RC1 pakages before loading the RC2?
[21:16] <Dr_willis> ijn,  if you want to test kde4 - i susggest using some of hte kde4 live cd's that are out
[21:16] <s> i bought an ASUS 107G wireless card, since i was told on the ubuntuforums that this card has native support
[21:16] <s> however, i am unable to connect to my router
[21:16] <habdel> nop, I didnt
[21:16] <ijn> oh it still in test ??
[21:16] <habdel> nosrednaekim: I will try to do that right now, remove all kde4 then reinstall them
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> !kde4 | habdel follow these directions for what to uninstall/install
[21:16] <ubotu> habdel follow these directions for what to uninstall/install: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[21:17] <s> i found my wireless working with kubuntu 6.10
[21:17] <ijn> thnks
[21:17] <s> when i upgraded to 7.10 (from 7.04), my wireless brokedown
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> s: so this card worked in 7.04?
[21:17] <s> nope
[21:18] <s> it worked only in 6.10
[21:18] <s> and not since.
[21:18]  * habdel reinstalling kde4 again
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> oh.
[21:18] <s> which is odd
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> whats the chipset in it? ralink? atheros?
[21:18] <s> raling 2500
[21:18] <s> *ralink
[21:18] <LjL> !brokenkde4
[21:18] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> s: ah yeah, plenty of people complaing about regressions with them
[21:19] <tehm0nk> ok i'm gonna reinstall right now
[21:19] <s> is there a solution?
[21:19] <s> or should i move to the newest testing release?
[21:19] <tehm0nk> in the last page before starting the installation there is a advanced butt
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> s: I don't know, look on the forums, if thre is, it will be there.
[21:19] <ibilic> you know how in windows when programs start running slow or something freezes, you restart your computer... is there an equivalent in Kubuntu (only without restarting)?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> ibilic: whats wrong?
[21:20] <s> nos: thanks. i did the steps some folks posted there
[21:20] <s> no luck, though
[21:20] <tehm0nk> i clicked on it and it says something about the Grub install
[21:20] <tehm0nk> it says (hd0)
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> tehm0nk: leave that as default
[21:20] <tehm0nk> and it dont work
[21:20] <tehm0nk> ?
[21:20] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Shouldn't that be (hd0,1) ?
[21:20] <tehm0nk> the first partition
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: he's installing it on a partition?
[21:21] <tehm0nk> or should it be (hd0,0)
[21:21] <J-R> Hello everybody!
[21:21] <J-R> I changed my monitor from a LCD 17 inch to a CRT 14 inch.
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> first partition would be hd0,0
[21:21] <J-R> I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[21:21] <J-R> The login screen of KDE is OK. The initialization screen of KDE is also OK.
[21:21] <J-R> But, after that there is only a blank screen and I cannot do anythin more.
[21:21] <ardchoille> Ah, right
[21:21] <J-R> Is there some configuration file of KDE that I have do delete or chage?
[21:21] <Dr_willis> the users can have their own resolution settings i recall.  But i dont rember where thats saved at.
[21:21] <ibilic> nosrednaekim: well it's just that firefox and LinuxDC++ and Azureus and everything in general just seems to be responding slowly and buggy... Firefox closed a couple of times for no reason
[21:22] <tehm0nk> brb while it copies stuff
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> ibilic: logging out should do the trick
[21:22] <Dr_willis> J-R,  you could move the .kde dir and see if it works.   Then explore  the .kde dir looking for the setting file. :)
[21:22] <ibilic> nosrednaekim: will try, thanks!
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> have to go everyone! good luck everyone.
[21:25] <J-R> DR_willis, Thank you. Do you know the setting file's name?
[21:25] <J-R> Now I'm in Windows. So I need to grabber all the information before to turn to Kubuntu. Sorry
[21:26] <Dr_willis> J-R,  Nope.  You could alwyas use a console based irc client to get here from linux, also you could try making a new user. and seeing if it works for them
[21:27] <J-R> Dr_willis. Thank you again. I'll try this.
[21:35] <SpookyET> HI
[21:36] <SpookyET> Am I the only one who thinks KDE4 looks a bit fat?
[21:41] <hitmanWilly> it looks fat, but actually runs 40% faster than 3.5, with the debug code still in
[21:41] <hitmanWilly> err, 40% less drain
[21:42] <hitmanWilly> on system resources
[21:42] <rencore_> hello
[21:43] <rencore_> i have tried installing kde4 but now it says i have unmet dependencies and i try apt-get install -f and it doesnt work
[21:46] <hitmanWilly> rencore_: try this link http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[21:47] <rencore_> remove the stuff its trying to install
[21:48] <rencore_> how can i*
[21:49] <hitmanWilly> rencore_: if its installing the unmet dependencies, what's the problem?
[21:49] <rencore_> it isnt though
[21:49] <rencore_> i try -f install and it doesnt do anything
[21:50] <hitmanWilly> try this in a konsole: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[21:52] <rencore_> i get a big list of stuff
[21:52] <rencore_> should i pastebin it
[21:52] <hitmanWilly> also, did you add the repo to sources.list?
[21:52] <rencore_> yes
[21:52] <hitmanWilly> ok, yes, pastebin that list please
[21:53] <rencore_> k
[21:54] <hitmanWilly> that's from the remove cmd, right?
[21:56] <rencore_> yes
[21:56] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48375/
[21:58] <hitmanWilly> ok, pastebin your sources.list for me please, i want to make sure its set up correctly
[21:59] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48377/
[22:00] <hitmanWilly> ok, i see the problem, you have the old repo location
[22:00] <rencore_> ok
[22:01] <hitmanWilly> change the last line to read: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[22:02] <rencore_> ok u should have that updated on the kubuntu site because under RC2 it has the one i added
[22:03] <hitmanWilly> ok, never mind, I was looking at the RC1 page...my bad :)
[22:04] <rencore_> oh
[22:04] <LjL> !brokenkde4
[22:04] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[22:04] <rencore_> ok
[22:04] <hitmanWilly> see, now the professionals come in :)
[22:05] <habdel> LjL: thanks, it is working now . It was a conflict between RC1 and RC2 packages
[22:06] <hitmanWilly> so RC2 is the latest then?  heh, have to go update my buntu box then :)
[22:07] <rencore_> LjL, i did that but it is still trying to intall the broken dependencies which arent working
[22:07] <rencore_> how do i clear that out
[22:08] <LjL> rencore_: what happens if you type that (don't press Y, just pastebin what it says after the command)
[22:09] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48380/
[22:15] <rencore_> any ideas?
[22:15] <rencore_> Ljl?
[22:16] <LjL> rencore_: it helps if you highlight me, i'm in other channels too... anyway tried sudo apt-get remove kde4admin kde4artwork kde4base kdebase-bin kdepimlibs5?
[22:17] <rencore_> yea
[22:17] <rencore_> same thing
[22:17] <LjL> rencore_: sudo apt-get install kdelibs5?
[22:17] <rencore_> says its already installed
[22:18] <LjL> rencore_: remove it, then reinstall it
[22:18] <LjL> at least try
[22:19] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48385/
[22:19] <rencore_> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48385/
[22:23] <LjL> rencore_: but it did uninstall kdelibs5?
[22:24] <rencore_> i think so
[22:24] <rencore_> it doesnt say
[22:24] <LjL> rencore_: uhm try -f install now
[22:26] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48387/
[22:26] <rencore_> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48387/
[22:27] <LjL> rencore_: uhm that might not be bad, now do this again
[22:27] <LjL> !brokenkde4
[22:27] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[22:27] <LjL> (careful, *look* at what packages it's going to remove, first)
[22:28] <rencore_> LjL, it doesnt even attempt to remove then
[22:28] <LjL> rencore_: says what?
[22:28] <hitmanWilly> ok, dumb question here, are you trying to do this with kde4 running?
[22:29] <rencore_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48388/
[22:29] <rencore_> no
[22:29] <hitmanWilly> ok, just making sure :)
[22:29] <rencore_> unless kde4 is running on kde3
[22:30] <hitmanWilly> also, it might be an amd 64 issue
[22:30] <rencore_> could be
[22:31] <rencore_> this is insane
[22:31] <rencore_> gah
[22:31] <rencore_> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48388/
[22:32] <hitmanWilly> well, i'm currently doing the upgrade from xfce, and it seems to be working fine, may wanna try from a different WM or a raw console
[22:32] <rencore_> yea
[22:37] <rencore_> LjL, it says my software index is broke when gnome tries to update
[22:39] <kristian_> hi an alle
[22:39] <SlimG2> Could anyone point me in the direction of a graphical audio editor capable of splitting a big multitrack .wav into smaller singletrack .wav files manually using the pointer and a graphical VU meter display?
[22:41] <LjL> rencore_, as you can imagine i'm a bit at a loss, but try this
[22:41] <LjL> sudo apt-get --reinstall install apparmor apparmor-utils gpsd kappfinder kate kcontrol kde-icons-oxygen kde4libs-bin kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-workspace-data kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmenuedit konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver ksplash ksysguard
[22:41] <LjL> ksysguardd ktip kwin libgps16 libkonq4 libpoppler-glib2 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler2 libsearchclient0 libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 pnm2ppa poppler-utils python-qt4 python-qt4-common python-qt4-dbus python-sip4 strigi-daemon
[22:41] <Artimus> How can I make my clock kicker app transparent again?  It's on "Pain clock".  I accidentally set a background color, now I can't make it transparent (so my kicker wallpaper shows behind it).
[22:41] <rencore_> ok
[22:42] <rencore_> im removing everything in synaptic right now
[22:42] <rencore_> then i will try reinstalling
[22:42] <Manad> hi
[22:43] <ubuntu_> sal
[22:43] <Manad> I was looking around on the keyboard command shortcuts, and could not see an entry for minimizing all windows/showing the desktop. I wanted to set WIN+D to do it.
[22:43] <cristian> salut
[22:44] <Manad> nevermind, just noticed I could select a Windows theme. Wow.
[22:44] <Manad> <3 KDE
[22:51] <Manad> how can I make Konqueror auto-load the File Management view profile when I launch it?
[22:53] <rencore_> LjL, so i got everything to install ok but when i select kde4 in the sessions it doesnt load
[22:53] <LjL> rencore_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <rencore_> LjL, ok the session lasts less than 10 seconds
[22:57] <Selfarian> Is Konquerer a very slow browser?
[22:57] <LjL> Selfarian: not usually
[22:57] <LjL> rencore_: dunno :|
[22:58] <Selfarian> is firefox better? :-)
[22:59] <fignew> Konqueror is a great web browser
[22:59] <fignew> Faster than firefox, but not as compatible
[23:00] <fignew> so you'll maybe come across a few websites that don't fully render correctly :)
[23:00] <Manad> can't be faster than Firefox, they use the same engine.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> how do you even benchmark 'faster'
[23:00] <Dr_willis> make a 10000mb html doc?
[23:00] <fignew> Manad: they do not use the same engine
[23:01] <fignew> Dr_willis: there's various benchmarks
[23:01] <Manad> they don't? My bad, I saw the "browser signature" option and it said "Mozilla"
[23:01] <Dr_willis> it spits out the same 'id' :)
[23:01] <fignew> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html
[23:02] <fignew> Manad: It does that because some websites are configured to tell you do get "a compatible browser" if it detects a non standard user agent
[23:02] <fignew> that's why opera claims it's some other browser by default.
[23:02] <Manad> so anyone know how I can have it autoload the File Management profile when it opens? I RTFMed and googled, it's not even brought up. Well the manual mentions instructions on creating a new shortcut that launches the profile, but it must be out of date because the things they talk about don't exist on the Kubuntu shortcut creator.
[23:04] <fignew> kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
[23:04] <Dr_willis> hmm.. its a command line option to konqueror i belive to tellit to use a specific profile
[23:05] <fignew> yes, what Dr_willis said
[23:05] <Dr_willis> konqueror --help mentions it..
[23:05] <Dr_willis> konqueror  --profile <profile>       Profile to open
[23:05] <Dr_willis> hmm   --preload                 Preload for later use
[23:05] <Dr_willis> never noticed that one befor. :)
[23:07] <fignew> Dr_willis: preloading should be automatic (at least, there's a setting for in)
[23:07] <fignew> it*
[23:08] <Dr_willis> yea. unless you are using a setup like i got on my laptop. with the jwm window manager. :)
[23:08] <Manad> got it now. I think the space in "File Management" was causing me issues. I saved it as "best" and now it loads, thanks.
[23:08] <Dr_willis> but proberly wont gain too much  for me.
[23:08] <Manad> Although, the help file does not mention --profile <profile>  , it says "openProfile <profile>"
[23:11] <Selfarian> hm
[23:11] <Selfarian> how can i see, if i have gusty?
[23:12] <LjL> !version
[23:12] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:12] <Selfarian> thanks
[23:21] <Ace2016> anyone here know why my gksudo apps look horrible?
[23:22] <Ace2016> like when i'm in kde and i run kdesu synaptic or gksudo gnome it looks really horrible, but if i login as root (gui) then the gtk apps have the correct theme
[23:23] <Manad> can I get people's opinion on Strigi? I'm the sort of person who always disabled Windows Indexing Service. How is Strigi better?
[23:26] <Dr_willis> Manad,  I hate it :)
[23:26] <Dr_willis> for some weird reason if i type in a bad url in konquerors address it goes to strigi://Somting
[23:27] <Dr_willis> and then i cant chagne the address/location i start to type in google.com or whatever and it resets back to strigi://
[23:27] <Ace2016> well i'm not sure about stringi but i use locate and i only update it when i need to use it, i just do sudo updatedb and search, so it doesn't slow stuff down when i'm not suing it, but i plan to set it to run at 3am since i've most likely left the pc on and gone to sleep
[23:27] <Dr_willis> i have to close konquer
[23:32] <Manad> what is locate, ace? another search service?
[23:34] <rencore_> LjL, i have everything installed why does kde4 not boot when i select the session in gdm
[23:35] <LjL> rencore_, i don't know.
[23:36] <Ace2016> Manad: it just finds filenames, like locate ace will find say /home/ace/* and give a list of all files with ace in the location name, its great when i'm looking for config files i mess with because i always make a backup and call it filename_Ace2016_Backup_YYYYMMDD
[23:36] <Dr_willis> you did alter the .desktop entry for gdm like the docs say?
[23:36] <lovre> does anyone have any idea why my microphone is not working? Its all normal in mixer and everything, but it doesnt work. (Kubuntu)
[23:36] <galorin> I'm having a problem with amarok and saving to a media device.  Can anyone recommend a good transcoding plugin as a starting point?
[23:36] <rencore_> Dr_willis, no what do i need to alter it doesnt say that on the rc2 instructions
[23:37] <Dr_willis> used to be there was some exports needed befor running kde4
[23:37] <rencore_> hmm
[23:37] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with it any more. so it may have changed
[23:37] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[23:37] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[23:38] <rencore_> kde3 runs fine but for some reason kde4 doesnt load
[23:40] <Dr_willis> try starting it from 'startx' and the .xinitrc file instead of using gdm perhaps.
[23:40] <Dr_willis> Seems the kde4 docs have changed a lot since last i saw them
[23:42] <Manad> how can I force-mount an NTFS drive that was not properly shutdown? Xubuntu's file manager gave me the command to do it when it spit out the error, but Konqueror doesn't
[23:44] <lovre> should alsa-utils service be set to run on boot for the microphone to work?
[23:57] <ubuntu_> Hi can somebody help me please, I am trying to partition a USB hard drive using qtparted, and I set the new size of the partition, I click OK and nothing happens
[23:58] <ubuntu_> It doesnt even preview the changes so that I can click Commit
[23:59] <ubuntu_> And whenever I click OK after setting the new size of the partition, it looks like an error box comes up that I have to click OK on but there is no text to tell me what's wrong?