[08:53] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:59] <rmg51> Morning
[10:35] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[11:20] <rmg51> o/
[11:20] <rmg51> bye
[12:11] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys?, hamsters and everything else
[12:43] <lazyPower> o/
[14:18] <ChinnoDog> morning
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: what up bread man
[15:43] <jedijf> trying to get my desktop config right in the office - new box
[15:43] <jedijf> newish
[15:44] <jedijf> old box was running 9.04...LOL
[15:46] <jedijf> what's been up with you MutantTurkey ?
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> 9.04
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> wow
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> is that intrepid?
[15:50] <MutantTurkey> nothing, just finished school for the Semester
[15:55] <MutantTurkey> eventually i will graduate
[16:07] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: don't know what it /was/ - I only use the numbers, lost track of the alphabet a long time ago.....
[16:07] <MutantTurkey> yeah
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> makes more sense to use numbers anyway
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> i think their scheme is actually good. 12.04 13.10, you know exactly when it was released
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> the problem with debian is that i can't keep up
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> and it constantly is name changing
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> stable -> is that wheezy? i can't remember
[16:08] <MutantTurkey> is jessie testing yet? idk!


[01:19] <crimsun> LaserJock: apparently your upload made it in :-)
[01:21] <LaserJock> just saw that, \o/
[01:22] <ogra> lol
[01:22] <ogra> the only universe package that made it in after the freeze is a fix for ia64 ?
[01:22] <ogra> thats funny :)
[01:23] <ogra> congrats LaserJock :)
[01:25] <azeem> yay!
[01:36] <sivang> LOL
[01:41] <LaserJock> it was all for azeem
[01:50] <azeem> #   dapper ia64   Successfully built
[01:50] <azeem> hah!
[01:52] <LaserJock> \o/
[01:56] <LaserJock> I gotta keep azeem happy so he will sponsor my Debian uploads ;-)
[01:56] <azeem> heh :)
[02:28] <ajmitch> afternoon
[02:28] <crimsun> 'lo
[02:29] <ajmitch> I guess I lost out on getting f-spot updated before release :)
[02:33] <crimsun> with all dozen patches? :-)
[02:34] <ajmitch> *cough*
[02:34] <ajmitch> only 23 !
[02:34] <ajmitch> it's like a new upstream version
[02:35] <ajmitch> which is why I'd be wary of uploading even if uploads weren't queued
[02:36] <crimsun> quick, upload while kamion's offering! :-)
[02:36] <ajmitch> hah
[02:36] <ajmitch> I don't have the patches yet
[02:39] <ajmitch> I can't really test cd images when rsync goes at 10K/sec
[02:39] <ajmitch> quite sad really
[03:25] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:29] <Kyral> hey God :P
[03:30] <bddebian> pfft
[03:33] <crimsun> just to let you know, bddebian, I plan to funnel all main uploads through you :p
[03:34] <ajmitch> might as well
[03:35] <bddebian> Why, I won't get in anyway
[03:35] <crimsun> your lp->packages begs to differ :p
[03:36] <bddebian> ??
[03:36] <crimsun> (the packages link on your LP page)
[03:37] <crimsun> anyhow, thanks for everyone's work on dapper :-)
[03:37] <ajmitch> I suppose I'll have to try & do some work on edgy
[03:37] <crimsun> well, I guess we all kinda pale in comparison on bddebian :p
[03:37] <crimsun> s/on/to/
[03:37] <bddebian> ajmitch: Bah :-)
[03:38] <bddebian> crimsun: What Packages link??
[03:39] <crimsun> this one-> https://launchpad.net/people/bddebian/+packages
[03:39] <ajmitch> crimsun: he'll get in if doko doesn't lynch him first
[03:39] <bddebian> What for the vnc4 thing?
[03:40] <crimsun> no, the list of packages you've worked on
[03:40] <bmonty> damn, I wish I knew about that packaging link earlier
[03:41] <bddebian> crimsun: No, I meant ajmitch
[03:41] <bddebian> s comment about doko
[03:41] <ajmitch> bddebian: yes, for that
[03:42] <bddebian> Later ajmitch
[03:42] <crimsun> later ajmitch
[03:42] <crimsun> guess it's time to resume poring through these security issues
[03:43] <bmonty> crimsun: is there a list somewhere?
[03:44] <crimsun> bmonty: debian's DSAs
[04:18] <LaserJock> hi guys
[04:19] <bmonty> hi LaserJock
[04:26] <LaserJock> I can't believe Dapper is almost out the door
[04:27] <bddebian> :)
[04:27] <Lathiat> yeh odd isnt it :)
[04:28] <Lathiat> its like just yesterday every dist-upgrade was a round of russian roulette..
[04:28] <LaserJock> this is the first release I've seen from start to finish
[04:29] <Lathiat> oh? cool
[04:29] <bddebian> Lathiat: :-)
[04:29] <Kyral> Good luck guys
[04:30] <Lathiat> i discovered we had some.. and its quite good but much in need of love :)
[04:30] <Kyral> I won't be around
[04:30] <LaserJock> yeah, that is cool
[04:30] <Kyral> sorry guys
[04:30] <Lathiat> i had no idea we had what we do tho, it looks pretty cool
[04:30] <Lathiat> i dont usually read docs i just muddle my way thrtough things.. :)
[04:31] <Lathiat> Kyral: ah how come?
[04:31] <LaserJock> Kyral: you're welcome to hang out here
[04:31] <Kyral> I can't settle down on one distro yet
[04:31] <Kyral> I want to learn all about how every distro does things
[04:31] <Lathiat> You don't have to, ubuntu has like 4 sub-distros to settle on ;)
[04:31] <Kyral> No its one distro
[04:31] <LaserJock> bddebian: whatever
[04:31] <Kyral> Just different default configs
[04:32] <Lathiat> and packages
[04:32] <Lathiat> :)
[04:32] <Kyral> No
[04:32] <Kyral> they all pull from the same repos
[04:32] <bddebian> LaserJock: Bah :-)
[04:32] <Lathiat> "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to turn in your gpg key"
[04:32] <Lathiat> Kyral: *default* packages ;)
[04:32] <Kyral> which == configs
[04:32] <Kyral> ANYWAY
[04:32] <Lathiat> . arguably ;p
[04:32] <Lathiat> dont worry
[04:32] <Kyral> Like I was saying, every distro is a representation of what someone thinks is the perfect distro
[04:32] <Lathiat> you can trip to any other distro and besides probably debian you'll come crawling back ;)
[04:33] <Lathiat> thats true
[04:33] <LaserJock> Lathiat: you should help with the Packaging Guide for edgy ;-)
[04:33] <Lathiat> LaserJock: info?
[04:33] <Lathiat> LaserJock: i take it its a newbies guide?
[04:33] <LaserJock> it's on doc.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <Kyral> Lathiat: Actually I like Arch more :P
[04:33] <Lathiat> Kyral: bad kyral, bad bad kyral *g*
[04:34] <LaserJock> Lathiat: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html in particular
[04:34] <Lathiat> ah yep, i see
[04:34] <LaserJock> Lathiat: it's also in ubuntu-docs package
[04:34] <Lathiat> ah, looks good
[04:34] <LaserJock> it still needs a lot of work
[04:34] <Kyral> I figure if I try out everyone's version of perfection then I will find out my own in end
[04:35] <Lathiat> Kyral: Thats the part where you start your own distro :)
[04:35] <Kyral> bingo :P
[04:35] <tseng> hi Lathiat
[04:35] <Lathiat> $)(*!@$ if k3b plays that stupid trumpet sound once more im going to switch back to gnome
[04:35] <Kyral> How'd you know that was my goal? :P
[04:35] <Lathiat> howdy tseng :)
[04:35] <LaserJock> Kyral: the one thing I would say is that Ubuntu isn't so much one persons's version of a perfect distro
[04:35] <LaserJock> as the communities version
[04:36] <Kyral> Same could be said of Arch
[04:36] <LaserJock> *community's
[04:36] <Lathiat> i should try out evolution in an environment where you use pop and stuff, i've only ever used it with imap (and found it relatively useless at that)
[04:36] <Kyral> Judd started it, but the community came around it with the AUR
[04:37] <Kyral> Actually there is an Italian distro that combines Ubuntu with Pacman
[04:37] <bddebian> Kyral: I'm still waiting on Hurd!!! ;-)
[04:37] <Kyral> hai hai
[04:37] <Kyral> lemme get it installed
[04:38] <Kyral> The HURD, BSD, and GNU/Solaris are also part of this Open Source field trip :P
[04:38] <LaserJock> good luck :-)
[04:38] <Kyral> I already have BSD going :P
[04:39] <Kyral> But yah, good job guys
[04:39] <Kyral> I prolly won't become MOTU, but I'll still be around in #ubuntu
[04:44] <bddebian> Good man :-)
[05:03] <LaserJock> woot! I got my passport today!
[05:03] <bddebian> Nice
[05:03] <bddebian> Did you do the two week rush job? :-)
[05:03] <LaserJock> I was getting worried
[05:03] <LaserJock> yes
[05:04] <bddebian> Yeah, I did that when I went to FOSDEM last year
[05:04] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[05:04] <LaserJock> but I didn't see it on the online status so I didn't even know it got to the state department
[05:05] <bddebian> Eeks
[06:05] <bddebian> GNight folks
[09:30] <Hobbsee> hi Mithrandir
[10:10] <dholbach> good morning
[10:41] <sivang> morning all
[10:42] <highvoltage> morning sivang
[10:44] <phanatic> hi people
[11:48] <philbull> hi guys, i'm having a problem with a patch
[11:48] <philbull> see bug 47428
[11:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47428 in kmatplot "no .desktop file" [Minor,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47428
[11:48] <philbull> i don't know what file to edit to install the icon/.desktop file
[11:50] <crimsun> which issue are you referring to, 1) the binary part, or 2) the actually moving of the icon/desktop file/s?
[11:50] <crimsun> actual^
[11:51] <philbull> well, i now have the icon and .desktop under the debian/ dir
[11:51] <philbull> but how can I install them to the correct locations?
[11:51] <crimsun> philbull: you need to install them in debian/rules
[11:52] <philbull> is it normal for that file to be a perl script, though?
[11:52] <philbull> i don't know any perl...
[11:52] <crimsun> normal? eh, not really, but I suppose it can be anything as long as it does the job
[11:53] <philbull> there are 2 files in debian/
[11:54] <philbull> debianrules (which seems to do something) and rules, which is really short and doesn't have any of the 'normal' dh_ stuff in it
[11:54] <philbull> (I'm totally new to this BTW)
[11:54] <crimsun> ugh, I keep trying to use an external mouse that isn't connected. Too tired.
[11:55] <philbull> he
[11:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:55] <Hobbsee> you can sleep soon crimsun :P
[11:56] <Hobbsee> philbull: that's cdbs, btw....
[11:56] <philbull> ?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> you *should* just be able to include kde.mk, i *think*
[11:56] <Hobbsee> i'm not positive on that though, give me a min
[11:56] <Hobbsee> philbull: that short rules file - it's made by cdbs.
[11:56] <philbull> aha
[11:58] <crimsun> hmm, but grep -nHr 'dh_desktop' *  doesn't reveal anything useful for kde
[11:58] <Hobbsee> philbull: you'd have to check other sources, to see if/how they copied icons, but maybe this will help https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml#id2503191
[11:58] <crimsun> in /usr/share/cdbs/1, that is
[11:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: presumably that's done in debhelper.mk
[12:00] <crimsun> that's under rules/, which is searched via -r
[12:01] <crimsun> yeah, it looks like you'll still have to do this manually.
[12:01] <Hobbsee> drat - but kde.mk should be in there for a kde program..
[12:01] <Hobbsee> i think
[12:02] <crimsun> let's look at kdenetwork.
[12:03] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you were on the right track. You'd need to include debian-qt-kde.mk
[12:04] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hmmm...havent seen that one used a lot, but okay
[12:04] <crimsun> those aren't distributed as part of cdbs
[12:04] <crimsun> they're part of the diff.gz
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ah...
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ah okya
[12:04] <Hobbsee> well, found out how kpowersave puts in it's icon...
[12:05] <philbull> i'm still lost :(
[12:05] <crimsun> darned mouse :/
[12:06] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~/Desktop/kpowersave-0.6.0/debian$ cat install
[12:06] <Hobbsee> debian/kpowersave.xpm usr/share/pixmaps
[12:06] <Hobbsee> is there, if that helps...
[12:06] <imbrandon>  omg people make me so mad sometimes ........ i need a ummm cigarette
[12:08] <crimsun> philbull: ok, looking at the source package for kmatplot, you should ignore debian/debianrules and debian/rules.old
[12:08] <crimsun> philbull: neither of those are even used
[12:08] <Hobbsee> (and why are they in there in teh first place???)
[12:09] <crimsun> historical $baggage  is my guess
[12:09] <philbull> ok
[12:10] <crimsun> philbull: probably the easiest way to get the xpm into the correct place is to use an .install file like Hobbsee alluded to
[12:11] <Hobbsee> crimsun: and then the menu file mentions the icon file.  but i cant seem to find where the menu file gets installed - maybe that's inside debhelper.mk?
[12:11] <crimsun> philbull: now the binary issue is going to cause some issues unless you uuencode, so I think you'll want to use another format
[12:11] <philbull> i'll use the .xpm if that'll work?
[12:12] <crimsun> philbull: that's the binary issue I'm referring to.
[12:12] <crimsun> philbull: I'm pretty certain you'll want to use the method that raphink blogged about
[12:12] <crimsun> Hobbsee: but that's in debian/debianrules, which is obsolete and not used at all currently
[12:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: as in, the menu file is mentioned there?  i didnt check that, knowing that it wasnt used.
[12:15] <philbull> crimsun: do you have a link to that blog?
[12:15] <crimsun> Hobbsee: the current menu file doesn't have an icon reference
[12:15] <crimsun> philbull: drilling down via google...
[12:16] <Hobbsee> crimsun: what's this then?  http://pastebin.com/748742
[12:18] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you're looking at kpowersave; I'm looking at kmatplot :-)
[12:18] <Hobbsee> crimsun: that is true - i was looking at an example file...
[12:18] <crimsun> (as in what philbull's working on)
[12:19] <crimsun> aha
[12:19] <Hobbsee> well, yeah...okay then.  add it to the menu file, perhaps?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> dinner
[12:19] <crimsun> it always helps if I tweak the search terms: http://www.raphink.info/adding-icons-to-debian-packages
[12:19] <Hobbsee|away> hehe
[12:20] <crimsun> philbull: see above url
[12:23] <philbull> thanks
[12:25] <dholbach> hey crimsun, philbull, Hobbsee|away
[12:26] <philbull> hmmm, that seems to need a 'nice' debian/rules
[12:26] <philbull> hey dholbach
[12:27] <philbull> is there anywhere in the package i could just call a custom script from?
[12:30] <dholbach> script for doing what?
[12:30] <crimsun> hi dholbach, thanks for pushing the great artwork :-)
[12:30] <crimsun> philbull: you can use cdbs hooks
[12:31] <dholbach> crimsun: thanks a lot - it was mostly the designer's work - but still it meant quite some work for me, so thanks for the praise. :-)
[12:31] <crimsun> :-)
[12:36] <crimsun> philbull: I have to go give a presentation soon, but look at the "post-install actions" portion of the "Basic custom build rules" section at https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml
[12:38] <sivang> crimsun: what is the preentation going to be about? :)
[12:39] <philbull> crimsun: thanks, i'll take a look this afternoon
[12:39] <philbull> thanks for all your help guys, hopefully i can get it to work...
[12:39] <crimsun> sivang: boring stuff like "how $sponsor's money's is justified being spent on our projects" :-)
[12:40] <crimsun> philbull: np
[12:40] <philbull> :D
[12:40] <sivang> crimsun: hehe
[12:40] <sivang> crimsun: good luck, may I ask what is the project? :)
[12:41] <crimsun> sivang: classifier systems for autonomous agents
[12:41] <sivang> oh crap, it seems I can't write to swirl:/sys/block/sda/queue/iosched , they are all readonly even for root
[12:41] <crimsun> (representing state changes, etc.)
[12:41] <sivang> crimsun: oh nice, doing an AI phd?
[12:41] <sivang> or masters?
[12:42] <crimsun> sivang: no, totally outside my realm, I'm just helping with research this summer and got dragged in :-)
[12:42] <sivang> well, cool! who knows, you might be drawn into it.
[12:43] <sivang> I know few people who did only one project and became Ph.D's in it :p
[12:43] <crimsun> :-)
[12:43] <sivang> one of them is my gf's sis's husband
[12:43] <sivang> he's into preference elicitation,
[12:43] <sivang> and some other stuff related to automatic learning
[12:43] <crimsun> ah cool
[12:43] <sivang> he teches in www.technion.ac.il
[12:44] <crimsun> yeah, adaptation/learning is part of this project, too, but I'm not sure if I'll get to it
[12:44] <sivang> anyway, do you have any idea why I can't write to those nodes at /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/antic_expire ?
[12:45] <sivang> the doc says if you set it to zero, it will act like the deadline schd
[12:48] <crimsun> I don't think those are exposed via /proc, so you have to change them before compiling
[12:49] <sivang> ah
[12:49] <sivang> k, thanks, will just switch to the deadline policy then
[12:49] <crimsun> I haven't tested cfq or deadline, but they're worth checking
[12:50] <sivang> what does cfq stands for?
[12:51] <crimsun> complete fair queueing iirc
[12:51] <sivang> okay, thanks for all the info Daniel
[12:51] <sivang> good luck on the presentation
[12:52] <crimsun> thanks, good luck w/ the tuning :-)
[12:52] <sivang> heh, thanks, I hope I will put this machine to behave like it cost :p
[12:52] <sivang> becuase at the moment it acts like in old PIII-800Mhz with 5400RPM hd :p
[01:01] <Hobbsee|away> hi dholbach
[01:10] <cyberix> Will Dapper be released on time tomorrow?
[01:10] <cyberix> And what time ;-)
[01:15] <sladen> cyberix: "tomorrow"
[01:15] <Mithrandir> it's not useful to ask "are we there yet", so please don't.
[01:17] <Toadstool> hi all
[01:23] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: are we there yet?  *ducks* :P
[01:23] <Mithrandir> you're poor at trolling today.
[01:23] <Mithrandir> :-P
[01:24] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: you mean i'm good on other days?
[01:24] <Mithrandir> better than this attempt, at least, yes.
[01:24] <Mithrandir> some days good, other days a bit less good
[01:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm...well seeing as i try not to troll at all...
[01:25] <Mithrandir> never?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> most of the time...
[01:26] <Hobbsee> besides, i thought the aim was to stop the trolls, not be one :P
[01:27] <sivang> oh well, deadline io scheduler is a bit better, but did not help much multitasking io tasks
[01:27] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I guess.  Just tired and really wanting to get this dragon out the door now.
[01:29] <Viper12> Well, been channel hopping.  if you all are truly the masters then tell me please  has the latest go round of updates borked firestarter?  Because after the latest round it will no longer start on my system. (clean dapper, no changes to repositories other than multi/universe).
[01:38] <Viper12> Well that shut the crowd up. ;)
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Viper12: heh - most people arent around here anyway
[01:38] <Hobbsee> they're busy doing release-stuff...
[01:39] <Viper12> Oh I know that.  This issue that just popped up does seem a bit more important than 'does yer comp iz work? or hows alsa-oss today", but noone is responding. lol  murphy's law.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> Viper12: i dont use firestarter, sorry...
[01:46] <zul> heylo
[01:46] <Hobbsee> hi zul
[01:46] <zul> hey Hobbsee how is it going?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> zul: alright, know anything about firestarter?
[01:47] <zul> isnt that the gnome firewall?
[01:47] <zul> other than that...no
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hehe.  yes
[01:48] <Viper12> yes
[01:48] <Viper12> and oh har har. :D
[01:48] <zul> i only did a patch for it thats about it
[01:48] <Viper12> well, as of today's updates it barfs when starting with a gTK-warning.
[01:48] <Hobbsee> i see
[01:49] <Viper12> acutally an Xlib "refused by server" and THEN a the gtk  cannot open display error.
[01:50] <bmonty_away> Viper12: try starting it on the command line with gksudo
[01:51] <Viper12> already did. and rebooted twice just to verify the issue wasn't something goofy.  It comes up with the same error.  No changes to this system since yesterday OTHER than the last round of updates a little while ago.
[01:51] <zul> works fine here
[01:51] <Viper12> It worked fine here as well, until I decided to reboot the system.
[01:53] <Viper12> going to reinstall the application.  Just very odd that on a 'clean' system, this particular application would go 'south'.
[01:56] <Viper12> dang odd.  It indicates that is stopped the firewall....reinstalled and then started it.  No icon, or any indication that its running via ps or system monitor.  scratching head.  trying to start the app is giving the same xlib and gtk error now..again. shrugs.
[01:57] <Viper12> grepping shows no process running either.
[02:27] <Viper12> Well, I submitted a bug report, so ve shall see.
[02:27] <zul> Viper12: i cant reproduce it
[02:28] <Viper12> I can.  snicker.
[02:28] <Viper12> just submitted #47662
[02:29] <Viper12> Really caught me off guard as the last couple weeks of updates (other than that night where the restricted drivers were 'late') have been rock solid for this system.
[02:47] <Viper12> okay, ran strace...now, what am I looking for in that spaghetti ?
[02:50] <Viper12> oh bugger. lol. wrong channel.  mah bad.
[03:10] <coz_> hey all
[03:19] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:20] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[03:20] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[03:22] <bddebian> Hiya Hobbsee and again LaserJock ;-)
[03:26] <siretart> fabo: hrhr. nice try... ;)
[03:26] <fabo> :p
[03:27] <siretart> fabo: boy, the archive has already been closed...
[03:30] <LaserJock> hi siretart
[03:30] <Hobbsee> hi siretart
[03:30] <siretart> huhu LaserJock, hi Hobbsee
[03:31] <siretart> fabo: yes, dapper is closed
[03:32] <bddebian> Doh :-(
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya siretart
[03:32] <fabo> k
[03:32] <siretart> huhu bddebian
[03:40] <siretart> fabo: please ask me in channel
[03:40] <fabo> k
[03:40] <fabo> so about my wishlist ?
[03:41] <siretart> fabo: I don't remember, sry
[03:41] <fabo> is it possible to have package name on bugs subjects e.g. :
[03:41] <fabo> [Motu-reviewers]  [Bug XXXXX]  [PackageName]
[03:41] <fabo> like for COMMENT and UPDATE :
[03:41] <fabo> [Motu-reviewers]  [REVU] [COMMENT]  for PackageName
[03:41] <siretart> hm. good idea. could you please write sistpoty a mail about it?
[03:41] <fabo> ok
[03:42] <Mithrandir> ew, terrible idea.  Filter by the headers set by launchpad instead.
[03:42] <LaserJock> Mithrandir: I find it often very difficult to find what package a bug is reported against in the Malone emails
[03:43] <LaserJock> putting something in the title would be nice, even putting it in the body would help
[03:43] <Mithrandir> LaserJock: filter each package into its own folder, then.
[03:43] <Mithrandir> or munge the subjects locally
[03:43] <LaserJock> ?
[03:43] <siretart> Mithrandir: those mails are generated by revu, not by launchpad
[03:44] <Mithrandir> hmkay
[03:45] <Mithrandir> order by, I presume?
[03:45] <LaserJock> I just want to be able to know what package an email is talking about
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir: that's the one.
[03:45] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: yeah, that would be handy
[03:46] <highvoltage> a RecentChanges for Launchpad would be nice.
[03:47] <siretart> Hobbsee: you are completly right to poke me about revu. unfortunately,  I didn't find time to continue coding on revu2 :( - its my fault
[03:47] <Hobbsee> siretart: not revu.  just malone :)
[06:24] <Spec> so the release is at 12:00, right? ;)
[06:25] <LaserJock> it's done when it's done
[06:27] <ogra> Spec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current if all or nearly all fields of all the tables have at least one "PASS" in them
[06:27] <ogra> feel free to test yourself and add some PASS notes ;)
[06:29] <Spec> you mean ... work?
[06:29] <Spec> :p
[06:31] <vdepizzol> hi everybody
[06:31] <vdepizzol> there are any style guideline for tangerine icons theme?
[06:32] <LaserJock> are those tango? or is that different?
[06:32] <ogra> vdepizzol, probably a question for #ubuntu-art :)
[06:32] <vdepizzol> thanks, ogra :)
[06:32] <ogra> or might be -artwork, i wanst in there for quite some time
[06:32] <ogra> *wasnt
[06:33] <Spec> most of the stuff for x86 is PASSed it seems
[06:34] <ogra> Spec, only PASS counts (not the ones with the build number)
[06:34] <Spec> only need one per box, right?
[06:35] <ogra> yep
[06:35] <ogra> at least
[06:35] <ogra> the more the better
[06:35] <Spec> I'll test "Alternate CD, expert", I can find method of testing that in testing/long?
[06:36] <Spec> maybe not
[08:46] <crimsun> bigcx2: what I said regarding edgy holds.
[08:46] <crimsun> it will be synced automatically since it's already in sid.
[08:47] <crimsun> pretty shiny (new) packaging, too, judging from packages.qa
[08:47] <bigcx2> ok, thats fine but i need in dapper so what would be the proper route of action to get it backported from edgy
[08:47] <crimsun> you will need to pbuild it yourself and test it to verify that it can be built in dapper using edgy source
[08:47] <crimsun> then you will need to request a backport
[08:48] <bigcx2> i have built it for dapper, we are using it internally on our mirrors
[08:48] <bigcx2> so the question still stands
[08:48] <bigcx2> how do i request a backport
[08:49] <crimsun> you'll need to ask the archive team to do that /once edgy opens/
[08:50] <bigcx2> alright...and the archive team consists of....
[08:50] <crimsun> the ubuntu-archive launchpad team
[08:51] <bigcx2> ok sounds good
[08:51] <bigcx2> thanks
[08:51] <crimsun> do not assign the bug to them
[08:51] <crimsun> I repeat, do /not/ assign it to them. Subscribe them.
[08:51] <crimsun> (they will punch you in the face)
[08:51] <bigcx2> haha
[08:51] <bigcx2> alright
[09:43] <tseng> bddebian: i am going on a business trip until friday
[09:43] <tseng> bddebian: no party
[09:44] <bddebian> d000d..
[09:46] <adolson> I am having a party for Dapper right now.. in my pants
[09:46] <bddebian> Uhm, TMI
[09:46] <bddebian> :-)
[09:46] <cbx33> yuk
[09:46] <cbx33> I side with bddebian on that one
[09:46] <adolson> come on, Ubuntu is hawt
[09:46] <crimsun> bddebian: deities can stomach anything.
[09:47] <cbx33> but not cack ya pants hawt
[09:48] <crimsun> ow.
[09:48] <cbx33> poke poke poke
[09:48] <adolson> I have a feeling some of the guys here tomorrow might be downloading Dapper and trying it.. I'm the only one here running Ubuntu at the moment, but they talk a lot about it and are counting down the hours kinda thing
[09:50] <LaserJock> adolson: yeah know, they could get the current daily and have it right now
[09:50] <crimsun> yeah, I've been holding off saying that in #ubuntu...
[09:51] <bddebian> heh
[09:51] <adolson> that's what I am running, LJ
[09:51] <crimsun> I'm running bddebianOS.
[09:51] <bddebian> OK, you've forced my hand
[09:52] <adolson> when I installed it, one of the guys questioned why I was installing a beta.. so I think it's a mentality here that you don't generally do that
[09:52] <LaserJock> bddebian: you can't your immortal
[09:52] <crimsun> "...and rose again on the third day"
[09:53] <bddebian> Ack, I have to go shovel dirt.. :'-(  Later folks
[09:53] <crimsun> cya


[22:03] <adek05> I have VM image with lucid, but lucid doesn't have libevent2(only 1.4.*). Now, what should I do to get this new packages? Should I upgrade to ocelit? If so, what is the safest way to do it from up-to-date lucid to ocelit
[22:04] <daniel> adek05: I have a switch on the front of the machine that is supposed to be able to toggle the wireless from on to off - however, it has no effect under this OS. I have tried switching it, holding it, and rebooted several times to make sure it wasn't just a fluke.
[22:04] <adek05> daniel: could be kernel issue: make sure you have rfkill installed (soft) and rfkill kernel module loaded
[22:05] <kelvin_> hello, does any know how to delete and add songs to iphone 4 with ubuntu 12.04?
[22:06] <minimec> adek05: Lucid lynx is the last LTS versioin. You can directly upgrade to the new LTS precise pangolin 12.04.
[22:06] <djp> L3top: well I renamed, and restarted it, and now.. no prompt! gaaaaaa!
[22:07] <L3top> Did you see my post?
[22:07] <adek05> minimec: do you have any idea about how much of downloading would it mean? I have slow connection right now
[22:07] <L3top> well... you want it to be there, and empty... so not rename exactly, but you could cp it to a backup file djp. If you rename it and create it again you must check that the permissions etc are teh same... this is why I use it. It is an easy way to make an empty version of anything.
[22:07] <djp> L3top: not in time..
[22:07] <djp> neat trick though
[22:08] <djp> if I get a prompt again. i'lltouch the file
[22:08] <PiNinja> So, I have a program that needs to have a parameter set via a script to run properly. However, the parameter must be set back after the program ends. Is there a way I could make this into a single script?
[22:08] <minimec> adek05: Well. Image, your whole system will be replaced... I don't know 500-700MB, depending on your installed software? I can only esimate.
[22:08] <L3top> works with any sort of file too... but now... lets boot to a live disk, and go in and cp that rename back and then perform the echo.
[22:08] <L3top> djp^
[22:09] <djp> l3 grrrr.. you're probably right..
[22:10] <djp> doing it..
[22:10] <foobArrr> I have trouble with installing 12.04 with disk encryption: the alternate installer hangs for several minutes after asking for the passphrase, then it continues normally. but when booting the installed system I have a delay of about 30 seconds between entering the passphrase and "cryptsetup successful". worked fine with 11.10 on that PC,  also works fine with 12.04 on my notebook. any ideas?
[22:10] <L3top> bbiab... smoke
[22:11] <djp> ok, best way to get to a root prompt from a live CD is..
[22:11] <Zangai> I am trying to install GitLab, which requires me to add a service with "insserv". However, I cannot find that command.
[22:11] <Zangai> I have verified that I installed the package "insserv", I even reinstalled it
[22:11] <countfuzzball> djp: use sudo su
[22:11] <djp> thnks
[22:12] <djp> too easy..
[22:12] <L3top> djp: use sudo -s
[22:12] <L3top> exit and sudo -s
[22:12] <L3top> or i
[22:12] <djp> k
[22:12] <ztag100> what's the difference between -s and -i anyway
[22:12] <L3top> !sudo-s
[22:13]  * L3top bets there is a factoid
[22:13] <wylde> if you 'sudo --help' it'll probably tell you :)
[22:13] <Zangai> or man sudo
[22:13] <AaronMT> What do you have to do to get an invite to #ubuntu+1
[22:13] <Slartibart> I get "Unknown typename: GtkSocket and GtkSocketClass" when I try to compile cairodock. But there's no hint whatsoever about what to install to make that message disappear. Could anyone here hint me on what to do to solve things like this?
[22:14] <finish06> is it possible to change the default opening window position?  my default window for all programs opens in the top left have way hidden under the menu bar @ the top of the screen  -- waht can i do?
[22:14] <wylde> Slartibart: ummm why compile? Isn;t it in the repos?
[22:14] <mattwallace> I'm trying to do a dual boot on my Mac Book Pro using Ubuntu 12.04 … has Intel Cor 2 Duo 2.66. Is ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso download the best option ?
[22:14] <daniel> I am fairly sure that the rfkill is installed b/c I am able to see what is soft blocked and hard blocked when I ask for an rfkill list -- but I am clueless as to what the information means --     brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no	Hard blocked: yes  1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN	Soft blocked: no	Hard blocked: yes
[22:15] <L3top> at the end of the day the differences boil down to access restrictions and env variables
[22:15] <Zangai> Can someone help me find insserv?
[22:15] <djp> yep.. when she gets to a terminal.. sudo -i
[22:15] <trek201> i don't suppose there's any way to stop video tearing in ubuntu on an nvidia card, is there?
[22:15] <hypcrum> Would anyone here be willing to help me test my 2d multiplayer game? I just got it up on the package manager
[22:15] <xangua> mattwallace: no need for dvd, everything is in the cd iso
[22:15] <Slartibart> wylde: It comes from my insatiable desire to make things harder.. And hope that one day I'll actually learn something ;-j
[22:16] <grkblood> any news on how to disable the launcher chameleon effect? it seems 12.04 has done nothing but add problems
[22:16] <wylde> Slartibart: but if you're set on compiling doing 'sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>' will probably help. Be sure you have build-essential installed too.
[22:16] <mattwallace> xangua: should I go with 64bit?
[22:16] <wylde> Slartibart: I do that too at times :)
[22:16] <woo> trek201, what are your desktop effects setting?
[22:16] <djp> oh for cryin out loud, is there no direct way to mount local disks from a live CD?
[22:16] <trek201> woo: Normal
[22:16] <minimec> Slartibart: Are you sure you have all the dependencies installed? sudo apt-get build-dep would give you the dependencies of the source file in the repo. Normally that's all you need.
[22:17] <djp> or CLI only..
[22:17] <countfuzzball> djp: mount doesn't work? :P
[22:17] <djp> oh.. nevermind..
[22:17] <L3top> djp you should be able to just click on it in nautilis and it will exist in /media/
[22:17] <woo> you tried it at none?
[22:17] <djp> yeah.. me stoopid
[22:18] <trek201> yeah, the effects settings don't seem to have any influence
[22:18] <L3top> djp: you can also chroot into the drive and do stuff... if you want to test, and have a desktop avail at the same time
[22:18] <Zangai> Does 'insserv' even exist?
[22:18] <woo> searck bug forms
[22:18] <djp> L3top: that sound like an advanced but attractive option..
[22:18] <Slartibart> minimec, wylde: I'll try build-dep. Thanks :).
[22:18] <L3top> super simple.
[22:19] <L3top> ls /media      then chroot /media/whateveritisinthere        and bam you are operating from that drive in terminal djp
[22:20] <mattwallace> Anyone had success dual booting on MacBook Pro 12.04 seems to install just fine but once it's up and logged in my screen is jacked up and doesn't seem to be using the graphics card correctly. I'm wondering if 64bit version is the way to go as well.
[22:20] <mattwallace> I tried following these instructions http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/dual-boot-os-ubuntu/
[22:20] <flippo> I just wanted to say that my upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 went effortlessly and without incident.  That is all.
[22:20] <sherry> !kde
[22:21] <djp> L3top: i may be losing my mind.. but I can't find the (changed) file..
[22:21] <wylde> djp make sure you're looking on the mount disk and not the "disk" the the live session is running on :)
[22:22] <wylde> mounted*
[22:22] <dzragon> is TRIM activated out of the box in 12.04?
[22:22] <djp>  /etc/init.d/rules ? (I think I'm looking at the right disk..
[22:22] <L3top> djp as I didn't tell you what to do, I can't really help there... do you remember what you renamed it?
[22:22] <djp> :-)
[22:22] <L3top> djp it would only be /etc/* if you were chrooted
[22:22] <L3top> and it would be /etc/udev/rules.d
[22:22] <hypcrum> Who here actually likes the new gnome/
[22:23] <wylde> djp: going straight to /etc/init.d/whatever means you're probably in the live sessions ram disk :)
[22:23] <djp> oh.. that makes sense..
[22:23] <L3top> hypcrum: it isn't gnome, it is unity... and I am not offended by it.
[22:23] <hypcrum> L3top: did they change it for 12.04?
[22:23] <flippo> hypcrum✌ I like Unity much better than gnome
[22:24] <L3top> yes hypcrum
[22:24] <wylde> hypcrum: I've actually managed to get it setup as to be usable for me. <-- Unity that is.
[22:24] <hypcrum> Ohhh. Maybe i should check it out
[22:24] <flippo> hypcrum✌ hit the Alt key.  It's awesome
[22:24] <skel> hypcrum: works well for me
[22:24] <hypcrum> I've switched to KDE because knome3 was bothering me.
[22:24] <hypcrum> gnome*
[22:25] <flippo> No more menu mazes for me
[22:25] <skel> hypcrum: imo they need to notify you if it can't leverage DRI.. because the user experience is completely different in the fallback
[22:25] <hypcrum> Yea..
[22:25] <djp> krababbel: what did you tell me to echo > ?
[22:25] <trek201> does ubuntu like ati more than nvidia?
[22:25] <hypcrum> flippo: I dont have vanilla 12.04 installed
[22:26] <newbie_ubuntu> hi all, i am stress with my vga intel gma 4500mhd
[22:26] <hypcrum> flippo: on kubuntu atm
[22:26] <helo1> Hello
[22:26] <newbie_ubuntu> anyone can help me, it seem ubuntu doesnt support for my vga
[22:26] <flippo> hypcrum✌ well, that's going to be different then
[22:27] <hypcrum> flippo: Yea.. i swapped to it because I disliked gnome3
[22:27] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: lspci -nn | grep VGA          in a terminal
[22:27] <newbie_ubuntu> my vga is intel gma 4500mhd
[22:27] <hypcrum> newbie_ubuntu: Does it show up in the restricted drivers?
[22:27] <flippo> hypcrum✌ Unity doesn't look much like gnome, though I understand there is some gnome in it somewhere
[22:27] <newbie_ubuntu> i dont know
[22:28] <newbie_ubuntu> my screen always blank after installing ubuntu
[22:28] <hypcrum> check there.
[22:28] <hypcrum> Oh.
[22:28] <koala> hey guys
[22:28] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: also, what version are you on. lsb_release -sc if you are unsure.
[22:28] <wylde> !nomodeset | newbie_ubuntu
[22:28] <newbie_ubuntu> i have tried to enter nomodeset
[22:28] <hypcrum> koala: hEY
[22:29] <helo1> Can someone help me get a script to send email notifications?
[22:29] <newbie_ubuntu> but after installing ubuntu in nomodeset, i became blank screen again
[22:29] <trek201> actually, i think the "none" setting on effects may have helped the video tearing problem
[22:29] <newbie_ubuntu> but after installing ubuntu in nomodeset, it became blank screen again
[22:29] <krababbel> djp: nothing, just repeated
[22:29] <jfreak53> helo1: What's up?
[22:30] <scientes> how do i execute a dmg https://support.apple.com/kb/DL997
[22:30] <newbie_ubuntu> hypcrum: can u help me?
[22:30] <jfreak53> helo1: Just pipe it to mail program
[22:30] <scientes> could i install that with GNUstep?
[22:30] <Delemas> Anyone seen else sshd start segfaulting going from 11.10 to 12.04?
[22:30] <hypcrum> newbie_ubuntu: Sorry not sure what to do if it doesnt show up at all.. besides the boot option
[22:30] <djp> krababbel: I seem to have misplace a crucual file i wrongly renamed..
[22:30] <helo1> jfreak53: could you explain how?
[22:31] <jfreak53> helo1: what's the command inside the script?
[22:31] <jfreak53> helo1: or better said, is this script running through cron??
[22:31] <jfreak53> helo1: if so it's easier :)
[22:31] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: ctrl + alt + f2, login and I can help you. It would be nice if you could install pastebinit so I can see stuff.
[22:31] <krababbel> djp: that file is automatically created by udev i believe
[22:32] <krababbel> djp: why are you in rescue mode again?
[22:32] <djp> no, I'm at it from a live CD
[22:32] <helo1> jfreak53: I wrote a script that does ping tests and outputs if they are up or down. I would like it to be a cron job but I can't get that working either.
[22:32] <krababbel> djp: can't you chroot into your system from the livecd and do what you want from there?
[22:32] <jfreak53> helo1: well once you get cron running just send output to mail, like so
[22:33] <djp> if I knew chroot from a stick of celery.. then yes :)
[22:33] <L3top> djp in general, I will not suggest you use the output of ls in a variable, but for just now... do the following as root in terminal: mydir=$(ls /media); chroot $mydir
[22:33] <jfreak53> helo1: command.sh > mail -s 'My Subject'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:33] <krababbel> djp: lol
[22:33] <jfreak53> helo1: that send's output to the mail program
[22:33] <L3top> wait on that djp
[22:33] <wylde> ooooo dirty hack! >.>
[22:33] <L3top> let me actually test things before I give them to you
[22:33] <wylde> :P
[22:34] <djp> kr is that literal, or do i substitute mydir
[22:34] <helo1> jfreak53: Is there any other configuration that needs to be done for that mail command to work?
[22:34] <jfreak53> helo1: Sorry did it wrong, it's:
[22:34] <djp> L3top: ok
[22:34] <jfreak53> helo1: command.sh | mail -s 'subject' email
[22:34] <ROdodrigo> unity sucks
[22:35] <L3top> first djp does ls /media have only one directory in it?
[22:35] <jfreak53> helo1: you need to make sure sendmail is installed and setup with MTC or you will get a bunch of error's. Just apt-get install sendmail and it should work
[22:35] <jfreak53> helo1: MTC ha ha MTA I ment
[22:35] <helo1> jfreak53: What is MTC
[22:35] <jfreak53> helo1: sorry MTA ha ha hands dont work
[22:35] <kx_> ROdodrigo: yep
[22:36] <krababbel> djp: I believe chroot from here should work, but I don't know what you actually want to do. Video driver broken?http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[22:36] <trek201> ROdodrigo: unity does suck
[22:36] <jfreak53> ROdodrigo: trek201: it does :(
[22:36] <djp> krababbel: what I really want to do is get networking up on the box to hopefully contunue and complete the 12.04 upgrade
[22:37] <L3top> ROdodrigo trek201 jfreak53 you can use any number of desktops out there.
[22:37] <L3top> djp does ls /media   display only ONE directory?
[22:37] <jfreak53> L3top: of course, but not gnome 2 in Ubu 12 :), at least I don't think, I haven't upgraded yet, stuck on 11.04 until they allow gnome2 :)
[22:37]  * trek201 has no problem with unity since he's still using ubuntu 10.04
[22:38] <L3top> Gonna have to come to terms with the passing of gnome.
[22:38] <jfreak53> trek201: ha ha ha
[22:38] <L3top> It isn't coming back.
[22:38] <wylde> jfreak53: gnome 2 is abandonded. It's no longer being maintained.
[22:38] <jfreak53> L3top: No I don't, I can go to Debian :)
[22:38] <pers0n> hmm
[22:38] <jfreak53> ha ha though I wouldn't ha ha
[22:38] <L3top> She's dead Jim
[22:38] <krababbel> gnome shell is great
[22:38] <jfreak53> wylde: yes and gnome 3 is bloated just like window's, so is KDE.  To each his own yes :)
[22:38] <jfreak53> L3top: ha ha
[22:39] <L3top> djp...
[22:39] <jfreak53> helo1: did you figure it out?
[22:39] <djp> L3top: local drive and cdrom
[22:39] <helo1> jfreak53: After installing sendmail, I still get a message that "mail" is not installed
[22:39] <wylde> jfreak53: absolutely. Until Unity got to the point it is now(and I still removed the global menu) I was using XFCE4
[22:39] <pers0n> I am having some freakishly stupid problems installing 12.04 with wubi.
[22:39] <qwd> I'm trying to verify a download with a .asc signature but when I try to open it it wants to decrypt the file. How do I make it verify the other file instead?
[22:39] <L3top> ok djp... lets do this.
[22:40] <jfreak53> wylde: I've tried other's, I just really like Gnome :(, it's sad they can't just let an old interface exist :(
[22:40] <milamber> qwd: how are you trying to verify?
[22:40]  * djp sits at the edge of his chair..
[22:40] <L3top> I assume your hd is on /dev/sda1 correct djp?
[22:40] <jfreak53> helo1: Hmm, try just sendmail command instead of mail
[22:40] <tomatto_> hello
[22:40] <qwd> milamber: just opening the .asc
[22:40] <djp> yeah.. i think so
[22:40] <tomatto_> please, can i somehow return back to gnome2?
[22:41] <wylde> jfreak53: true enough, I honestly would have liked to carry on with gnome2 myself. There is a fork started called ummm... MATE? I think.
[22:41] <milamber> qwd: an ascii file?
[22:41] <jfreak53> tomatto_: Yes, UBU 11 ha ha there are a couple instruction's out there I've found that tell how, I just cant remember where, do a google search
[22:41] <L3top> djp: umount /dev/sda1; mkdir /mnt/fix; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/fix; chroot /mnt/fix
[22:41] <wylde> !nounity | tomatto_
[22:41] <jfreak53> wylde: MATE? hmm, I'm gonna have to look.  That's the only thing keeping me from upgrading truly.
[22:41] <djp> ok.. I'll try
[22:41] <qwd> milamber: .asc, a GPG signature
[22:42] <APoulos> hey guys
[22:42] <jfreak53> ubottu: yeah but shell and fallback are NOTHING at all like gnome 2 :), even indicators don't work right on it
[22:42] <APoulos> Can someone tell me exactly how to add a git repo?
[22:42] <pers0n> First...  I tried to do a recovery and change the /etc/sudoers file, but I could find nothing wrong with it, through what was shown to me on a how-to. Any ideas?
[22:42] <wylde> jfreak53: there's also ummm cinnamon? Some mint thing I think is where that comes from. I read it's also similar.
[22:43] <milamber> qwd: have you done: gpg --verify <file>.asc
[22:43] <jfreak53> wylde: Hmm, I'm gonna have to Vbox test this with 12, if I can get something liek gnome 2 I would upgrade :)
[22:43] <L3top> pers0n: you need to add your user to the admin group, I am not sure why your user is not already...
[22:43] <cheryl> Is there a problem with the ubuntu website?? :(
[22:43] <trism> jfreak53: in what way do the indicators not work right?
[22:43] <cheryl> I want to d/load the latest vers....
[22:43] <L3top> brb baby crying
[22:43] <pers0n> It was said there is no admin group.
[22:43] <APoulos> Also, btw, APTonCD sucks. doesn't help at all. I tried reinstalling and the bloody thing didnt copy any of my libs
[22:43] <wylde> jfreak53: best way to try things out :)
[22:43] <usr13> pers0n: Are you logging into the original user, (the one that was created when the OS was initially installed)?
[22:43] <MTughan> Since Google seems to be failing me here, is there any way to see what programs are accessing my hard disk? The LED is dead, so I don't know if something's constantly hitting the HDD or not.
[22:43] <pers0n> when I tried to add my self.
[22:43] <pers0n> user13 yes.
[22:43] <jfreak53> trism: I only tried it once in shell mode, it was wierd, the icon's just popped all over the place and didn't stay.  It was wierd but awhile ago so I dont remember exactly
[22:43] <iceroot> MTughan: iotop
[22:43] <masterofpc> APoulos, do you mean creating a new git repository?
[22:44] <jfreak53> wylde: Yeah but until 12.04 came out I didnt have a desire ha ha, nor time right now to try :(
[22:44] <usr13> pers0n: That's a bit strange.  Have you tried failsafe mode?
[22:44] <irvken> MTughan, top
[22:44] <milamber> MTughan: are you looking for the command: top
[22:44] <APoulos> masterofpc, no I  mean connecting to a Git repo because im trying to get the latest version of ffmpeg
[22:44] <MTughan> irvken: top just shows CPU and memory usage, IIRC.
[22:44] <qwd> milamber: Yeah it's the correct file but I want to be able to do it from Nautilus by just opening the file. I know it's supposed to work as that's what I did in Debian.
[22:44] <MTughan> iceroot: Thanks, installing now.
[22:44] <APoulos> masterofpc,  maybe I don't fully understand the way the git process fully works
[22:44] <helo1> jfreak53: okay so this worked: "./checkservers.sh  | sudo sendmail -s 'Net Status'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Without the 'sudo', I got a permission denied message.
[22:45] <L3top> usr13: pers0n this is the second case of this reported today.
[22:45] <jfreak53> helo1: hmm, one sec brb
[22:45] <helo1> jfreak53: It also did not send with the subject I used. It just had no subject at all.
[22:45] <usr13> pers0n: I suppose you could boot from the CD and then add your user to the sudoers file. Oh, I see, you have no admin group?
[22:45] <pers0n> usr13 Not sure what that is, but I tried adding my user to admin through recovery but I cannot find what is wrong with /etc/sudoers file and the group 'admin' doesn't exist.
[22:45] <milamber> qwd: not sure about the gui, but a quick google came up with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1909950.html
[22:45] <masterofpc> APoulos, okay so you probably want to checkout/clone, try writing this in a terminal: git clone git://source.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.git ffmpeg
[22:45] <tomatto_> ubottu: i am using 12.04 version now
[22:45] <pers0n> Yes...
[22:45] <L3top> pers0n: To do this you are going to have to boot to the live disk or another nix on the same machine, and chroot into the drive and add your user t
[22:46] <L3top> there*
[22:46] <tomatto_> wylde: i am using 12.04 version now
[22:46] <APoulos> masterofpc, what exactly does that command do?
[22:46] <djp> L3top: chroot failed to run command "/bin/bash": Exec formant error
[22:46] <tomatto_> jfreak53: i am using 12.04 version now
[22:46] <L3top> pers0n: just catching up
[22:46] <djp> (yes, as root)
[22:46] <jfreak53> tomatto_: yeah is g2 there :) ha ha
[22:46] <wylde> tomatto_: yeah that factoid needs to be update but it's the same for precise. You can use gnome-panel and gnaom-fallback.
[22:47] <L3top> djp: thats the second time I have run into that as well...
[22:47] <wylde> bah, pardon the typos
[22:47] <masterofpc> APoulos, it 'clones' the git repository, i.e. it downloads all files from the git server to ffmpeg/...
[22:47] <djp> but I'm in "bash"..
[22:47] <pers0n> L3top- i used Wubi to install... will that cause troubles trying to edit it with a live cd?
[22:47] <djp> xterm anyways..
[22:47] <k014> hello everyone!, i am trying to zip some files with encryption, but i also want the file list encrypted, how can i do that?
[22:47] <k014> i am doing:
[22:47] <k014> zip -e foo *
[22:48] <wylde> pers0n: I don't have an admin group either, it's 'adm' on this box.
[22:48] <milamber> !info seahorse-nautilus | qwd
[22:48] <pers0n> wylde I will try that.
[22:48] <qwd> milamber: ah yeah, now I remember that seahorse-utils is needed, but I already have that installed. For some reason it thinks it should decrypt the signature instead of verifying it
[22:48] <djp> L3top: next clue?
[22:48] <L3top> djp: it is indicative of the jailed environment not having bash or the libraries required to execute it... so it is on the drive you are chrooting into, not your host environment
[22:48] <Flannel> wylde: Is this a fresh install of 12.04?  Do you have a 'sudo' group?
[22:49] <newbie_ubuntu> anybody knows where to find driver for my vga, intel gma 4500mhd?
[22:49] <APoulos> well that was weird.. lost connection
[22:49] <Erealz>  if you add <IP_ADDRESS> to proxychains it will run thru tor and proxies!
[22:49] <wylde> Flannel: it was installed back in alpha but I've not had an admin group at any point.
[22:49] <L3top> Well... I take that as a bad sign djp. pers0n if you were able to chroot in, then it shouldnt make any difference.
[22:49] <APoulos> anyways - masterofpc what exactly is a git repo?
[22:49] <djp> L3top: I'm a bit confused by the question..
[22:49] <Flannel> wylde: right, do you have a 'sudo' group, not an 'admin' group?
[22:49] <k014> hello everyone!, i am trying to zip some files with encryption, but i also want the file list encrypted, how can i do that? (i am using: $ zip -c foo * )
[22:49] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: I have told you 3 times what you need to do in order for me to help you.
[22:49] <wylde> Flannel: moment, I'll ssh into my server and see if it has one. I just updated it yesterday.
[22:49] <masterofpc> so, APoulos, git is a kind of version control system
[22:50] <APoulos> masterofpc, similar to synaptic?
[22:50] <wylde> Flannel: I have sudo and adm
[22:50] <k014> i have a lot of experience in git, can i help?
[22:50] <tomatto_> gnome-shell?
[22:50] <APoulos> k014,  sure hop on in
[22:50] <djp> L3top: i appreciate the help amigo, btw
[22:50] <pers0n> Guess I didn't want Grub anymore... booting straight into windows... yay. Might have to give up for the day.
[22:50] <newbie_ubuntu> L3top: my screen blank, and i need driver for my vga
[22:50] <koala> whazzup
[22:50] <masterofpc> APoulos, not exactly, it just keeps track of files and their changes
[22:50] <koala> go to additional drivers
[22:50] <koala> newbie ubuntu
[22:51] <L3top> I want to try an experiment djp. Is this a desktop machine?
[22:51] <djp> yep
[22:51] <Flannel> wylde: 'sudo' is the old admin.  As of 12.04 it's been migrated (admin group, if it existed, will continue to function, but its deprecrated)
[22:51] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: ctrl alt f2 on the machine with the blank screen. login. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:51] <wylde> Flannel: ahh alrighty.
[22:51] <apavlov> Hey ubunters. I'm failing to start up wifi on a Lenovo B560 running 12.04 (BRCM4313, PCI ID 14e4:4727). Seemingly, studied every forum thread out there on the net, ended up with the wl driver running for the eth1 device, but it stays "Hard blocked", as said by rfkill, and won't get unblocked (rfkill unblock all). This worked fine with 11.04 on the same laptop but got broken after an update to 12.04. Any one has had positive experience bringing this thing
[22:51] <apavlov>  up?
[22:52] <APoulos> masterofpc, ill be back, xchat for gnome sucks. switching to regular xchat
[22:52] <masterofpc> k
[22:52] <jfreak53> helo1: Hmm, with sendmail installed mail isn't giving me any trouble
[22:52] <L3top> djp, shut the machine down and plug the HD into the next avail port.
[22:52] <jfreak53> helo1: what version of Ubu are you on?
[22:52] <Delemas> hmm weird it seems to be related to a liblsp.so.1 which isn't owned by any package...
[22:52] <helo1> jfreak53: 10.04
[22:52] <djp> L3top: yikes!
[22:52] <L3top> djp: boot to live disk, and we will mount it and diddle with it
[22:53] <masterofpc> k014, I think you cant encrypt the file names in a zip directly, you'd need to double zip them
[22:53] <TheSimkin> anyone know what ubuntu+1 has become invite only?
[22:53] <TheSimkin> err why.
[22:53] <djp> I'm seeing the drive now, you think moving it might help?
[22:53] <wylde> Flannel: ahh I see now, I upgraded my 10.04 box to 12.04 yesterday and it has the admin group.
[22:53] <vadi2> Has anyone else had success with enabling the 'unredirect fullscreen windows' in 12.04 on nvidia?
[22:53] <darklord> Ba
[22:53] <APoulos> alright
[22:53] <Flannel> TheSimkin: there is no +1 version currently (12.04 was released)
[22:53] <djp> it's SATA
[22:53] <APoulos> masterofpc, im back in
[22:53] <masterofpc> APoulos, wb
[22:53] <TheSimkin> Flannel: isn't there always a new +1 ?
[22:53] <minimec> apavlov: Might sound strange. I jus did a 'reset to defaults' of the BIOS on a x121e, and got my 'hardblocked' bluetooth working like that. Also I had no chance to get it working with rfkill.
[22:53] <TheSimkin> Flannel: is there a way to tell ubuntu to download the latest updates.. just not instlal them til i say so?
[22:54] <jfreak53> helo1: try installing mailutils package and try 'mail' command again
[22:54] <TheSimkin> it'd be nice if 12.04 was all ready to install :)
[22:54] <k014> masterofpc thx you
[22:54] <L3top> I don't know exactly WHAT the problem is, but this exact same situation was resolved doing this, so I am really more curious about what it implies if we can magically chroot djp. It has very little to do with fixing your machine.
[22:54] <koala> how can i find out the IP of my router at home ?
[22:54] <apavlov> minimec: hmm, weird, but worth giving a try...
[22:54] <APoulos> masterofpc, thank you good sir
[22:54] <koala> i played with DHCP now i dont know my ip
[22:54] <koala> so im locked out
[22:54] <Flannel> TheSimkin: No, Q hasn't been opened yet.  Toolchain will be uploaded on the 3rd.
[22:55] <Flannel> TheSimkin: -d (or --download-only) will do that.
[22:55] <duvel> hi
[22:55] <robgraves> Ok, I'm trying to figure out how to clear out what's stored in my Ubuntu One account, now I know there's the Ubuntu One folder in home, but the majority of what's using  my 5 gb's is the backup i did the other day, i wanna delete that, anyone know how?
[22:55] <Flannel> TheSimkin: That's with apt-get, of course.
[22:56] <masterofpc> APoulos, so git basically just gives you the ability to track changes in files, and then also to fork (split) repositories, and merge them back again
[22:57] <duv3l> So... I loaded ubuntu 12.04 LTS -- It's showing my Display as "LAPTOP" when I'm clearly using a desktop with 3 25.5" monitors... Any idea what the problem is?
[22:57] <Thunderhawk> hello all
[22:57] <walterwoj> how do I give user walter permissions to start wicd?
[22:57] <vadi2> duv3l: I've had it show the same for me on my nvidia card
[22:57] <djp> L3top: I get that, and thanks.. but this is an obcenely ontuse way to get networking up from recovery mode.. not your fault of course
[22:57] <aos21> hello
[22:57] <lola> hi i have question about cairo dock anybode can help?
[22:57] <djp> obtuse, of course
[22:57] <L3top> djp I am quite sure we can just resolve your issue first if you like
[22:57] <aos21> join #anonymous
[22:58] <ThePendulum> I just installed 'Synergy' and the program just disappeared, although it is installed. I can't find it, nor start it using a command. Any idea if a restart will make the program show up?
[22:58] <djp> well let me see if I can get back into recovery mode for real
[22:58] <ratcheer> robgraves: The first thing I would try is logging onto Ubuntu 1 web page, clicking the Files tab, and see if you can delete them from there.
[22:58] <duv3l> vadi2, i tried reinstalling drivers etc -- still broken. I can only get 1 of my monitors to work. How sad :\
[22:58] <L3top> I believe they are related djp
[22:58] <robgraves> ratcheer: ok, i'll try it
[22:58] <Thunderhawk> i was wondering if anyone has ever changed the single-user passwd when GRUB was not installed
[22:58] <vadi2> duv3l: have you tried using the nvidia settings utility? however that only easily goes up to 2 only, using twinview
[22:58] <vadi2> duv3l: I'm assuming you're on nvidia that is
[22:59] <lola> what happends with minimalized aplications with cairo dock??
[22:59] <duv3l> i am, correct, i have 2 evga gtx 560 graphics cards
[22:59] <vadi2> ahh. one gtx 560 here. on one giant display.
[22:59] <vadi2> so, tried the nvidia settings tool?
[22:59] <duv3l> yeah
[22:59] <duv3l> i just got 2nd monitor working
[22:59] <vadi2> right
[22:59] <duv3l> I assume they still dont have 3 monitor support?
[22:59] <duv3l> if not thats a deal breaker and im uninstalling.
[23:00] <vadi2> well, not as smooth as 2 monitors. poke around on nvidia forums / email customer support, I think people do have 3 monitors working
[23:00] <rfictus> where can I see all the kernel settings in Ubuntu ?
[23:00] <Thunderhawk> duv3l you can have up to 4 monitors if u r running a dual video card system
[23:00] <trism> rfictus: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[23:00] <vadi2> or yeah configure the 3rd to work on the other gfx card
[23:01] <duv3l> okay
[23:01] <duv3l> i have 3 monitors
[23:01] <rfictus> trism: do i terminla that ??
[23:01] <duv3l> 2 hooked up to one graphics card, 1 hooked up to the second.
[23:01] <minimec> rfictus: You have the config file of all the kernels in the /boot directory.
[23:01] <rfictus> thank you minimec
[23:01] <robgraves> ratcheer: that worked, thanks!
[23:01] <helo1> jfreak53: that worked. Thanks
[23:02] <ROdodrigo> unity sucks, canonical should work WITH Gnome team to make gnome shell better instead of create something that bad, slow, and overload
[23:02] <ratcheer> robgraves: Great. Glad I could help.
[23:02] <Thunderhawk> i was wondering if anyone has ever changed the single-user passwd when GRUB was not installed
[23:02] <wylde> ROdodrigo: do you have an actual supporot question or are you just here to troll?
[23:02] <vadi2> duv3l: oh so is the 2nd card working?
[23:03] <Thunderhawk> i was wondering if anyone has ever changed the single-user passwd when GRUB was not installed
[23:03] <jfreak53> helo1: Awesome!! Glad it worked
[23:03] <vadi2> duv3l: either way: this is a bit outside of the ubuntu ecosystem, you're in nvidia's land at this point
[23:03] <duv3l> shows that the 2nd card is working
[23:03] <jfreak53> helo1: seems you needed an MTA and that wasn't installed ha ha dumb me at times ha ha
[23:03] <robgraves> ratcheer: I've been googling that now for a day or so now, with no clear answer...excellent
[23:03] <ROdodrigo> it's not trolling, I need to say this
[23:03] <Thunderhawk> i was wondering if anyone has ever changed the single-user passwd when GRUB was not installed
[23:03] <wylde> !ot | ROdodrigo
[23:04] <duv3l> brb
[23:04] <ROdodrigo> I'm sorry if I make you feel uncomfortable
[23:04] <Thunderhawk> my question is a support question
[23:04] <Myrtti> Thunderhawk: repeating the same question over and over again within minutes isn't going to make people answer any better
[23:06] <ROdodrigo> the thing that makes me angry is to have a 2 gb ram with a x2 64 2.7ghz procesor, 512 mb of video, and wait 2 minutes to change between chromiunm and nautilus
[23:06] <ROdodrigo> anyway
[23:06] <ROdodrigo> have a nice day
[23:06] <ROdodrigo> bye bye
[23:07] <L3top> ROdodrigo: sounds like your setup is wrong. I am wicked fast on less.
[23:08] <ROdodrigo> weird, because i change to xubuntu and it flies
[23:08] <ROdodrigo> gnome shell flies
[23:08] <ROdodrigo> lxde well
[23:08] <Thunderhawk> Myrtti: i was just repeating because it is truely important and i need an answer so i can fix my works servers
[23:09] <L3top> That's what I am saying... something is configured wrong... because I have very similar hw, with a bit lower performance, and it flies.
[23:09] <duv3l> Just want to let you know, after reboot my 3 monitors are working flawlessly with my 2 graphics cards. THANK YOU UBUNTU TEAM AND CANONICAL, FANTASTIC JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:09] <L3top> ROdodrigo: what is the gpu?
[23:09] <ROdodrigo> nvidia
[23:09] <minimec> ROdodrigo: GPU problem with compiz I guess.
[23:09] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[23:09] <L3top> ROdodrigo: ^
[23:10] <RevHelix> I find unity nice. Although there were some major issues on my laptop with the last release but now I like it. I see a lot of promise. If your systems are having issues then use kubuntu / legacy gnome mode / install your own wm\
[23:10] <ROdodrigo> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:0849] (rev a2)
[23:10] <bcuraboy> guys i'm having serious issues to install ubuntu 12.04
[23:10] <tbrown> I just got done doing a review on ubuntu I kind of dont like the layout how appears. I kind of like a clean desktop envirement dont get me wrong it looks good to work on but it just look more like a tablet pc:)
[23:10] <kel_> you and a lot of others
[23:10] <APoulos> bcuraboy:  whats the matter man?
[23:11] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: more info needed ha ha:)
[23:11] <RevHelix> bcuraboy: deets
[23:11] <bcuraboy> i'm trying to install it on a intel pc with 1gb ram and 1.66ghz processor
[23:11] <kel_> and?
[23:11] <APoulos> bcuraboy: you're better off using 11.10
[23:11] <wylde> and then?
[23:11] <kel_> agreed
[23:11] <bcuraboy> i've tried 3 ways to install it and it stucks on some point of the installation
[23:11] <kel_> i still use it
[23:11] <Tinti> bcuraboy how about xubuntu?
[23:11] <jfreak53> bcuraboy APoulos: more like 11.04 ;) ha ha
[23:11] <RevHelix> bcuraboy: noooo.. use lubuntu ... you have no love to spare there dude
[23:12] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: what does stucks mean? ha ha
[23:12] <V1-Ru5> wasap guys!!
[23:12] <pibarnas> bcuraboy: and lubuntu?
[23:12] <kel_> you sure your not using 64bit install?
[23:12] <jfreak53> I like the technical words stucks on
[23:12] <jfreak53> ha ha
[23:12] <V1-Ru5> im having problems with precise
[23:12] <bcuraboy> yeah i'm sure
[23:12] <L3top> That should definitely be going well on nvidia-current ROdodrigo, but a lot of folks do seem to be having trouble on the supplied version. I would recommend adding the xswat ppas and using their driver
[23:12] <bcuraboy> i've downloaded 2 times
[23:12] <kel_> id step back man
[23:12] <tbrown> Man ubuntu is really slow on my VM am trying to load it on to it or something. And it just keeps lagging I have 1.65 GZ amd Processor
[23:12] <kel_> nothing wrong with it
[23:12] <APoulos> bcuraboy - listen to me man
[23:12] <bcuraboy> talk
[23:12] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: Alt install or GUI install?
[23:12] <L3top> ROdodrigo: Give me one second, and I will find a link with what to try.
[23:12] <bcuraboy> cd install,usb
[23:12] <duv3l> despite 12.04 being a bit buggy -- its the best damn release yet. I can't believe this
[23:13] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: yeah but Alternate installer or GUI installer?
[23:13] <APoulos> bcuraboy: when you're running on only 2GB of ram and 1GHz processor, you're best bet is to get 11.04 on it
[23:13] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: because I highly doubt the GUI installer will work on that system :)(
[23:13] <duv3l> later guys!
[23:13] <bcuraboy> hmmm i see
[23:13] <RevHelix> bcuraboy: no no no.. aside from the media are you just trying the pretty install or are you using the alternate text install
[23:13] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: 11.04 and Alternate installer! :)
[23:13] <APoulos> bcuraboy: also, if you want to install it from usb - use Unetbootin
[23:13] <Thunderhawk> i was wondering if anyone has ever changed the single-user passwd when GRUB was not installed
[23:13] <bcuraboy> because i've tried to run the live cd on my own personal pc and it just run smoothly
[23:13] <ROdodrigo> ok L3top I gong to try again, I wait
[23:14] <jfreak53> :facesmack: ha ha
[23:14] <bcuraboy> where can i get 11.10?
[23:14] <kel_> website
[23:14] <APoulos> bcuraboy: not 11.10 - use 11.04
[23:14] <L3top> ROdodrigo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[23:14] <Tinti> release.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <wylde> Thunderhawk: do you mean from the live cd?
[23:14] <tbrown> 11.10 or 12.04 for a AMD Processor with 1.65GHz
[23:14] <APoulos> bcuraboy: likely not going to be ble to run Unity
[23:14] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: Go to ubuntu download site, go to other downloads link and find it, it's there :) use 11.04 and Alternate installer.
[23:14] <Tinti> or releases.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: if you use GUI installer it will fail :)
[23:14] <L3top> ROdodrigo: a reboot will be required.
[23:14] <wylde> !torrents
[23:14] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: yeah that link that Tinti did :) ha ha
[23:14] <apavlov> minimec: was it you who suggested resetting the BIOS to defaults? I've got bad memory for nicks :) Can't say for sure if it was it or a manually built wl driver really took effect after a reboot (rather than modprobe) but WiFi now works. Thanks a lot.
[23:15] <bcuraboy> APoulos, why you suggest 11.04?
[23:15] <tbrown> Man people are so gay on this chat room they dont even answer you...
[23:15] <ROdodrigo> ok
[23:16] <wylde> bcuraboy: probably because it still uses gnome 2 :)
[23:16] <ROdodrigo> I'm on it
[23:16] <minimec> apavlov: It was me and I was surprised as you when it worked for my bluetooth device. Seems to be related with the lenovo thikpad tpacpi stuff. ;) Happy it works ...
[23:16] <Thunderhawk> wylde: i looked around on the servers and there is nothing related to a grub file on the system
[23:16] <jfreak53> wylde: no because of his specs
[23:16] <RevHelix> tbrown: may i recommend gentoo?
[23:16] <bcuraboy> unity or gnome it's not that important
[23:16] <APoulos> bcuraboy: because 11.10  uses Unity which is a resource hog, 11.04 is easier and uses classic gnome
[23:16] <jfreak53> wylde: he can't do much more ha ha
[23:16] <kel_> im on 11.04
[23:16] <kel_> works great
[23:16] <mikubuntu> i decided that the lack of a system tray is a big enough problem to NOT use unity, so i'm glad i still have the option to select ubuntu classic environment on login ... i had no idea where unity was sending any minimized window at all
[23:16] <wylde> jfreak53: lol, lubuntu then! :P
[23:16] <jfreak53> wylde: haha well maybe
[23:16] <tbrown> RevHelix: Everyone is saying that I have not use Gentoo is that a good Operating system of linux distro
[23:17] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the password encryption is using blowfish
[23:17] <kel_> it just came out last year bcuraboy
[23:17] <apavlov> minimec: yeah, really weird. Time to go to sleep for me, though. Bye, keep up giving the good advice! :-)
[23:17] <RevHelix> tbrown: you will come out a man...
[23:17] <APoulos> tbrown: gentoo is for the more advanced
[23:17] <bcuraboy> but from 11.04 i can upgrade to other versions,right?
[23:17] <APoulos> tbrown: if you are just starting id use ubuntu
[23:18] <youdy> tbrown: gentoo is okay. it's just more work initally.
[23:18] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: it's not suggested, you just cant run unit on that system
[23:18] <APoulos> bcuraboy: yes, but why would you want to
[23:18] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: sorry unity not unit ha ha
[23:18] <minimec> apavlov: My laptop once runned out of battery. after charging, bluetooth was hardblocked again. Guess what I did. Reset BIOS, and it wirked again... ;)
[23:18] <RevHelix> tbrown: I'd also not call everyone gay, you will get helped in another manner..
[23:18] <wylde> Thunderhawk: ahh no idea then sorry. I don't do encryption. I'm just a lowly home user ;)
[23:18] <jfreak53> man my hands dont work today
[23:18] <APoulos> bcuraboy: in fact, 11.04 is still widely supported
[23:18] <bcuraboy> because that pc is not mine,and the unity interface is very simple to these kind of people
[23:18] <L3top> Yes tbrown, we are just in here chatting about life... but now that you have called me gay... I really am motivated to scroll back and find you answer so I can  help. Try rm -R /         That will probably fix your issue. (people should not do that... it is a joke and dangerous)
[23:18] <jfreak53> APoulos: I still use it on all my systems :) ha ha
[23:18] <Thunderhawk> wylde: any idea about the grub problem
[23:19] <wylde> !danger
[23:19] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: it's gonna be slow but it will work if you turn off effects entirely
[23:19] <L3top> and wrong without the *...
[23:19] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: very very slow ha ha
[23:19] <tbrown> AWWWWW Everyone is say if you are a first user of linux use Ubuntu It sucks Sorry Ubuntu Fans I like Ubumtu 10.04 better than 12.04 or 11.10 it just layout edition of a tablet.
[23:19] <APoulos> bcuraboy: thats the great thing about ubuntu - like jfreak53 said, you dont need to upgrade with ubuntu because most programs are supported on most versions of ubuntu, I still see packages for 9.04 supported
[23:19] <bcuraboy> so you strongly suggest 11.04??
[23:19] <RevHelix> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda
[23:19] <wylde> Thunderhawk: how are the machines booting? You have to have some sort of bootloader.
[23:19] <APoulos> tbrown: then use 10.04?
[23:19] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: strongly ha ha
[23:19] <Myrtti> tbrown: did you have a Ubuntu support question or problem?
[23:20] <jfreak53> I still use 8 on 3 school system's were running ha ha, it's nice with LXDE :) ha ha
[23:20] <masterofpc> RevHelix, lol
[23:20] <APoulos> tbrown: btw, you can change both of those to look like 10.04
[23:20] <countfuzzball> L3top: I believe that recent versions of rm catch trying to do rm -r /rootdirectory and won't allow it
[23:20] <wylde> !flavors | tbrown
[23:20] <Myrtti> tbrown: this is a support channel, not a general chatter channel for you to bounce opinions from
[23:20] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the server just boots up to a gui login
[23:21] <wylde> Thunderhawk: ok then you'll have to reboot, and hold the shift key after the bios to get the grub prompt.
[23:21] <tbrown> Myrtti: Man calm down if you were smart enough I ask a qestion the first time no one said anything
[23:21] <L3top> Interesting countfuzzball... I would hope that it just gave a super warning requiring exact read input.
[23:21] <APoulos> btw bcuraboy - if you start typing someone's name on the irc, hit the tab key so you can direct the messages to us so we can see them better
[23:21] <Thunderhawk> wylde: it does not ask me to choose a kernel to boot
[23:21] <kel_> wonder why everyone feels they need to have the newest release, same old thing just in a fresh package.
[23:21] <jfreak53> bcuraboy: trust me they won't notice, try another window manager then, there are many.  I still use Ubu 8 on 3 systems at our school. Old in Linux doesn't always mean old :)
[23:21] <APoulos> here's an example - hi bcuraboy
[23:21] <tbrown> Am going to download Gentoo
[23:21] <tbrown> And try it
[23:21] <Thunderhawk> wylde: i tried that and it did not work
[23:21] <wylde> Thunderhawk: probably because there is only one OS on the machine. If you hold the shift key after the bios it will load the menu.
[23:22] <APoulos> tbrown: have a fun time taking on pandoras box
[23:22] <bcuraboy> APoulos, yeah i can see you
[23:22] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!
[23:22] <APoulos> bcuraboy: see, thats better, because now you highlight my name and I can see it easier
[23:23] <wylde> Thunderhawk: can you access /etc/default/grub ?
[23:23] <APoulos> Thunderhawk: wylde what are you guys trying to repair?
[23:23] <tbrown> Oh my gosh Gentoo is about 135 MB that is a small ISO
[23:23] <wylde> Thunderhawk: before we get into anything. What exactly is your end goal?
[23:23] <L3top> kel_: security updates... in my circumstance. I can't live on a dead distro... and newer hardware support. For instance now we are on 1004, but there are throngs of new chipsets for nvidia, some even with a new vdpau revision, that we cannot support because we are pinned to so much underlying architecture.
[23:23] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the keyboard is an old ps/2 keyboard and it is not picking up the shift key signal until it is time to login
[23:23] <tbrown> Oh my gosh Gentoo is about 135 MB that is a small ISO
[23:23] <tomatto_> this works pretty well sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[23:24] <ROdodrigo> what's the diference between the nvidia driver on the ubuntu repo, and the one you are giving me?
[23:24] <Myrtti> tbrown: and what does this have to do with Ubuntu? Ubuntu has a netinst disk too.
[23:24] <jfreak53> tbrown: that's about the size of DSL linux ha ha
[23:24] <APoulos> tbrown: hehehe have fun with that
[23:24] <ratcheer> tbrown: Have you read the installation instructions, yet?
[23:24] <wylde> APoulos: no idea as yet.
[23:24] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[23:24] <countfuzzball> Which would get swapped out first? Stuff on a tmpfs mounted directory or stuff in resident RAM that's being used/read from a bit more often?
[23:24] <L3top> ROdodrigo: apt-cache policy nvidia-current   will tell you the differences in builds from the two repositories.
[23:24] <tbrown> ratcheer: No I have not am going to look at it know thanks for remining me
[23:24] <Thunderhawk> wylde: my end goal is to change the old users passwd and then login and change the username
[23:24] <APoulos> Thunderhawk, wylde wait wait wait - are you on a laptop?
[23:24] <Weaponized> Hello all. I'm setting up a samba server for our work. I used samba about a year and a half ago, but I could not get a computer with windows on it to delete a file from the samba server. Anything I should know before I get started?
[23:25] <Thunderhawk> the servers are 1U rack systems
[23:25] <tomatto_> anyone who tried to compile qt static in ubuntu?
[23:25] <L3top> ROdodrigo: the swat guys are really awesome at building debian specific updated drivers. I have not tried to diff the stuff coming from nvidia or them... but they really always have the bleeding edge stuff pretty stable.
[23:25] <APoulos> Thunderhawk, wylde this is important, is your computer you're trying to configure a laptop?
[23:25] <masterofpc> Weaponized, you need to watch the permissions in the samba config file, thats all
[23:26] <dresden> is there a problem with USB 3.0 in Precise?
[23:26] <wylde> APoulos: <Thunderhawk> the servers are 1U rack systems
[23:26] <APoulos> dresden: what are you using to install it from usb?
[23:26] <bcuraboy> APoulos, so which would be the fastier to install on a laptop with that specs??
[23:26] <Thunderhawk> APoulo6: no it is a server that i am trying to fix
[23:27] <dresden> none of my usb 3 ports work
[23:27] <APoulos> bcuraboy: well, like I said man, I ran 11.04 - for the longest time, its good, clean, quick and gets the job done.  If you install it onto a cd - set the burn speed to the LOWEST POSSIBLE BURN SPEED to prevent from any errors with the files
[23:28] <wylde> Thunderhawk: so, you're working on this server and you don't have a user account with access to sudo? You also mentioned encryption. Home directory encyption or the entire filesystem?
[23:28] <bcuraboy> APoulos, ok,maybe i'll follow your advice
[23:28] <masterofpc> Weaponized, most important option is security = user, so you can do user managment with smbpasswd, although this is nothing ubuntu specific
[23:29] <Thunderhawk> the encryption i think is the entire filesystem
[23:29] <jfreak53> APoulos: :facepalm:!! ha ha ha ha
[23:29] <newbie_ubuntu> is there any driver for my vga intel gma 4500mhd, i have tried to search it, but none
[23:29] <wylde> Thunderhawk: ok, unless you have a user account with some form of admin (root) access I have no idea how to help you. Sorry.
[23:30] <APoulos> bcuraboy: if you're installing from usb, go grab Unetbootin - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/, then download the ISO - http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ - make sure its the one for your system - 32bit or 64bit - then use Unetbootin to put it on the usb
[23:30] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the user acct that is there has sudo access, but is the only acct and at the same time is the one with the encryption
[23:30] <shadykhan> how do i give my self permission to a folder?
[23:30] <youdy> chmod it
[23:30] <shadykhan> chmod 777 path correct?
[23:30] <jfreak53> shadykhan: chown or chmod
[23:30] <Logan_> chown
[23:30] <newbie_ubuntu> is there any driver for my vga intel gma 4500mhd, i have tried to search it, but none
[23:30] <youdy> yeah mod then own
[23:30] <qwd> Any ideas on why Altitude (the java game with small airplanes) doesn't start on Precise Pangolin? I installed openjdk7 and installation went fine, but when I try to start it I see the splash screen and then nothing. The process is running though.
[23:30] <shadykhan> also how can i check the current permissions?
[23:31] <jfreak53> shadykhan: chmod 777 would give everone permission
[23:31] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the only accts on the server is the 1 user and root
[23:31] <qwd> newbie_ubuntu: you already have it. no need to install anything.
[23:31] <APoulos> shadykhan: chmod u+x
[23:31] <shadykhan> thanks
[23:31] <wylde> Thunderhawk: the problem is if the filesystem is encrypted you can't even chroot in to modify any files.
[23:31] <tbrown> Does Gentoo Have a chat room
[23:31] <ClientAlive> I'm getting fd0: read error. Folks in a bug report are saying to disable floppy support in firmware but I have an internal card reader. Does anyone know if disabling floppy support in firmware would effect my card reader?
[23:31] <newbie_ubuntu> qwd: but my screen blank
[23:31] <masterofpc> shadykhan, check the perms by doing a ls -l
[23:31] <Logan_> tbrown: #gentoo
[23:31] <Thunderhawk> wylde: the system is running 11.04
[23:31] <tbrown> Logan_: Thanks Man:)
[23:32] <lousygarua> how do i use the nouveau driver instead of the nvidia one that doesn't work as of now?
[23:32] <lousygarua> on 12.04
[23:32] <wylde> Thunderhawk: yes ok, the whole point to encryption is to prevent access. It's well beyond my ability to do myself, let alone instruct someone over irc how to do it. Sorry.
[23:33] <minimec> lousygarua: disable the nvidia driver in 'Additional drivers'
[23:33] <Thunderhawk> is there anyone on here that might know wylde
[23:33] <lousygarua> minimec: there's no nvidia driver there. that's the problem in the first place
[23:33] <newbie_ubuntu> qwd: my screen blank, so what is the problem then
[23:33] <jfreak53> Thunderhawk: why?
[23:33] <wylde> Thunderhawk: hang around and re-ask around every 20 minutes. also...see the following factoid.
[23:34] <lousygarua> minimec: there's some problem with nvidia and their driver for the current x server version as i understood
[23:34] <wylde> !patience | Thunderhawk
[23:34] <Thunderhawk> wylde: i thank you for the help
[23:34] <acestuff> Hey. When I go onto ubuntu.com, the download link is to ubuntu-xxx-amd64.iso but I have Intel chip! Is this actually the download that I need?
[23:34] <minimec> lousygarua: So you are probably using the nouveau driver. You can check that typing 'lsmod |grep nouveau' in a console.
[23:34] <jfreak53> acestuff: only if you have a 64 bit system
[23:34] <jfreak53> acestuff: goto the releases site, click the other download link
[23:34] <DoctorPepper>  can anyone please help me ,  since i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04  i  have  a little wierd issue  with  the global menu  under kde. if i start a kde app the menu the globalmenu work just fine but i  run a gtk app  the menu bar appears on both the window  and the dbusmenu widget
[23:35] <Dade> I have a few SSL Virtualhosts and they work fine until I restart the box. Then all of the SSL virtualhosts point to the directory listed in default-ssl. If I restart Apache2 service manually everything works as intended. any ideas?
[23:35] <wylde> Thunderhawk: wish I could do more, but I honestly think if the filesystem is encrypted you're going to need that users password.
[23:35] <lousygarua> minimec: btw, on the live cd (usb for me) it did run the nouveau driver and it did get listed with lsmod
[23:35] <lousygarua> minimec: it's not listed with lsmod. hmm maybe it's because my laptop falls back to the regular graphics card?
[23:35] <acestuff> jfreak53: yes I have a 64 bit system. I can't get ubuntu to boot correctly though... Why does it have amd in the name?
[23:36] <youdy> tbrown: all you are going to get is rtfm and with good reason, your question is stupid.
[23:36] <minimec> lousygarua: regular would be intel? in that case 'lsmod |grep i915'
[23:36] <Thunderhawk> jfreak53: because of the encryption type, which is blowfish 1024 iterations
[23:36] <newbie_ubuntu> hey, i have just install ubuntu 12.04, but after restart my screen became blank, so i edit my grub, and add nomodeset to my grub, and it works, but every i restart my laptop it became blank again, pls help me
[23:36] <jfreak53> acestuff: just because you have a 64 bit system doesn't mean you have to install 64 bit OS. You only need 64 bit ubu if you plan on doing video intensive things or picture intensive
[23:37] <jfreak53> acestuff: plus some programs are not compiled on 64 bit os, you might have to manually compile some progs. I would suggest installing regular Ubu
[23:37] <wylde> jfreak53: or lots of compiling from sources :)
[23:37] <jfreak53> Thunderhawk: Oh, OK :) ha ha
[23:37] <lousygarua> minimec: yes, that's the one. so my ubuntu falls back to the intel card after it cannot find the nvidia one? wait a sec. maybe i need to remove all the other nvidia packages that i don't know how got installed in the first place
[23:38] <acestuff> jfreak53: I have 64 bit versions of Windows and 64 bit Linux Mint. I also have more than 4GB RAM.
[23:38] <L3top> most programs do absolutely nothing with 64 bit ftr jfreak53.
[23:38] <Thunderhawk> jfreak53: can you help with the encryption
[23:38] <jfreak53> wylde: true, it would help for that also.  But to be honest, my laptop is a 64 and my home PC is not, on my laptop I have regular ubu installed and it's still a lot faster on compiling than my main pc. I don't think he would notice the dif
[23:38] <mouth1> does the i3 550 CPU have a GPU on it?
[23:38] <mouth1> like 100% sure?
[23:38] <mouth1> that it's stable with ubuntu etc.
[23:38] <IdleOne> mouth1: that is a hardware question try ##hardware
[23:38] <jfreak53> Thunderhawk: Hmm, what is encrypted, I haven't been reading?
[23:38] <newbie_ubuntu> hey, i have just install ubuntu 12.04, but after restart my screen became blank, so i edit my grub, and add nomodeset to my grub, and it works, but every i restart my laptop it became blank again, pls help me
[23:38] <L3top> Thunderhawk: You will have better luck just trying to bruteforce against the password than "fixing" blowfish encrypted stuff.
[23:38] <mouth1> ok thanks IdleOne
[23:39] <wylde> jfreak53: true :) Most really don't need 64 bit, but hey it's been used as a catch phrase for advertising! So it must be better! >.<
[23:39] <acestuff> jfreak53: But if it is supposed to work for both Intel and AMD chips the problem must be elsewhere...
[23:39] <jfreak53> L3top: ohhhh it's BF !!
[23:39] <chulbulpandey> hihi
[23:39] <mouth1> do we have proprietary drivers for intel GPU's too or are there only open source?
[23:39] <chulbulpandey> hi
[23:39] <jfreak53> wylde: ha ha ha ha ha
[23:39] <chulbulpandey> hello
[23:39] <Dade> I have a few SSL Virtualhosts and they work fine until I restart the box. Then all of the SSL virtualhosts point to the directory listed in default-ssl. If I restart Apache2 service manually everything works as intended. any ideas?
[23:39] <chulbulpandey> haha
[23:40] <Thunderhawk> L3top: do you know of any good bruteforce programs that i can run from a cd-rom
[23:40] <L3top> chulbulpandey: stop spamming the channel. Do you have a support related question?
[23:40] <jfreak53> Thunderhawk: no your stuck friend, I studied encryption as a side course, your done for.  If it's a partition or basically anything, if it's encrypted especially high your done dude, try brute forcing.  What's encrypted that you have to get into?
[23:40] <newbie_ubuntu> hey, i have just install ubuntu 12.04, but after restart my screen became blank, so i edit my grub, and add nomodeset to my grub, and it works, but every i restart my laptop it became blank again, pls help me
[23:40] <jfreak53> Thunderhawk: jack the ripper, haven't done those things in years :(
[23:40] <L3top> It has been a very long time since I played with toys Thunderhawk. I am sure a quick google search will provide live cds just for that purpose.
[23:41] <wylde> Thunderhawk: if you really want to resort to that you should check out 'john-the-ripper'
[23:41] <L3top> wow... john is still the man...
[23:41] <qwd> newbie_ubuntu: please don't spam the channel. if you don't get a reply wait 20 minutes and try again, not 2 minutes.
[23:41] <jfreak53> wylde: thanks, not jack ha ha ha john, like I said wayyyy tooo many years ha hah a
[23:41] <wylde> :)
[23:41] <newbie_ubuntu> qwd:okay boss
[23:42] <Thunderhawk> ok thank you all
[23:42] <jfreak53> wylde, Thunderhawk there is actually a john the ripper boot cd, I haven't used or tried it in years, but it exists for bootup and bruting
[23:42] <karamazov> After insalling Ubuntu I can't access my recovery partitin by pressing F10, is it gone?
[23:42] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: 4 times now, I have tried to help you. You do not reply and then just repost the same question over and over.
[23:42] <Tinti> newbie_ubuntu: try to remove quiet and splash from grub boot for a more verbose error
[23:43] <mouth1> are the ati proprietary drivers more stable than the open source?
[23:43] <jfreak53> karamazov: not unless you deleted it, it's normally just because the window's bootloader is gone.  Try running sudo fdisk -l
[23:43] <acestuff> I attempt to boot Ubuntu (from disk, from USB, it doesn't matter) it all goes fine except it gets to the loading screen then after a few seconds everything goes black. Anyone know what the problem may be?
[23:43] <mouth1> like for x server freezes
[23:43] <karamazov> jfreak53: I didn't delete it, I just installed Ubuntu on the whole drive.
[23:43] <jfreak53> karamazov: then you deleted it.  If you selected use whole drive when installing it erased the partition.  Your done for sorry
[23:43] <karamazov> jfreak53: So it should be there?
[23:44] <lousygarua> minimec: ok, something happened, i got the nice effects i had on the live usb like that beautiful alt-tab window, but lsmod still shows i915 and no nouveau
[23:44] <wylde> Thunderhawk: you should know though, that using bruteforce means that you will ONLY get access by guessing the exact password. To make things worse, if don't know how long the password is it will take an exceptional amount of time to accomplish. You could get extraornarily lucky and succeed in a few minutes/hours/days. The truth though is you could be trying for decades.......  <--- true story
[23:44] <jfreak53> karamazov: 90% of the time if a system is there on a partition grub2 will find it when installing.  Try from CLI sudo update-grub then restart
[23:44] <jfreak53> karakedi: if it's not there then it's gone.
[23:44] <Vonhinten> Having some upgrade woes.  11.10 -> 12.04, normal boots ends up giving me this error:   mountall: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/libply.so.2)
[23:45] <BLZbubba_> how do i get sr0 out of the list of devices that udisks is polling?
[23:46] <minimec> lousygarua: Well I guess the intel GPU is a Intel GMA HD, used in the first intel iX series. They are running quiet good with linux.
[23:46] <scientes> Vonhinten, thats really bad, you need to install libc6:amd64
[23:46] <jfreak53> wylde Thunderhawk: you could try a rainbow cracker, just don't know of any. Plus you would have to download something like 1GB or more for the full rainbow table
[23:46] <Vonhinten> Can't do anything in the Recovery Console, says the drive is read only, no matter what I do.  And now trying to load up a Flash Drive iso of 12.04 is giving an error saying 'initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system'
[23:46] <trevor> test
[23:47] <trevor> trevor
[23:47] <jagginess> Vonhinten, you should md5sum check the iso
[23:47] <acmeinc1> Any idea why postfix would log to BOTH syslog AND mail.log?
[23:47] <trevor> identify
[23:47] <BLZbubba_> also, why do my usb devices get the first scsi names like /dev/sda, dev/sdb
[23:47] <newbie_ubuntu> l3top: sorry i am in working now, thats why i can't concentrate one by one
[23:47] <wylde> jfreak53: I've read a little about but never played with it :)
[23:47] <kx> Vonhinten: you're screwed. just a typical ubuntu updates that destroys your system. the fix requires manually removing old glibc files, faking the package manager into believing a certain version is installed, manually installing .deb packages  in specific orders. your system is actually probably only half updated
[23:47] <iceroot> BLZbubba_: because of your bios and to avoid changing device names there is the UUID
[23:47] <Guest93700> anyone know how to identify in time for the nickname?
[23:48] <jfreak53> wylde: their pretty cool actually. It's pretty quick, that's how they ended up cracking MD5 and SHA1 hashes, using rainbow tables about 3GB in size.  It works :)
[23:48] <newbie_ubuntu> L3top: i have done what u suggested before, but it doesnt work
[23:48] <wylde> jfreak53: yeah, I believe that was also done using graphics gpu's as well no?
[23:48] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: that isnt to fix it, that is so we can begin fixing it. I need you to have a terminal, and pastebinit installed so I can help you.
[23:48] <Vonhinten> kx, nice.  Guess I'll try to get a live cd or flash boot working and copy what I can, and start fresh.
[23:49] <Guest93700> anyone?
[23:49] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: lspci -nn | grep VGA | pastebinit
[23:49] <jfreak53> wylde: MD5 originally yes, but then they figured rainbow would be faster and it was so now most md5 cracking sites use rainbow for that reason, 3GB of disk space is cheap in VPS unit's ;)  While as a GPU is not on server unit's ha ha
[23:49] <L3top> newbie_ubuntu: It will spit out a pastebin.com URL. I need that.
[23:49] <newbie_ubuntu> L3top: okay, let me do first
[23:50] <wylde> jfreak53: very true, however we should stop before we get slapped with a !ot    lol
[23:50] <jfreak53> wylde: ha ha ha true
[23:50] <kx> Vonhinten: ok probably the easiest solution. also consider using a different distribution if you don't want it to happen again in the future, pragmaticaly
[23:50] <lousygarua> minimec: so ubuntu is now using the intel graphics card, and not the nvidia one. will i feel anything differnet if i use the nvidia with the nouveau? for now i only need simple eyecandy effects for the desktop, no 3d games or whatever (at least for now before nvidia releases the nice cat)
[23:50] <L3top> lousygarua: you are on a laptop with dual GPUs?
[23:50] <wylde> Guest93700: could yopu try to explain a little better?
[23:50] <lousygarua> L3top: yes
[23:51] <L3top> lousygarua: checkout bumblebee
[23:51] <Guest93700> well i just want to have a handle that isn't Guest93700
[23:51] <L3top> lousygarua: It will allow you to switch to whichever one you like
[23:51] <L3top> Guest93700: /nick MyNewNickname
[23:51] <wylde> Guest93700:  /msg nickserv help
[23:51] <mouth1> are the ati proprietary drivers more stable than the open source?
[23:51] <Guest93700> ok thankyou L3top
[23:52] <minimec> lousygarua: No. You will be ok with the intel GPU. It works quiet well.
[23:52] <lousygarua> minimec: L3top: thanks
[23:53] <christophe> hallo
[23:53] <Guest61474> hallo
[23:53] <christophe> iemand met veel ervaring in xubuntu hier
[23:53] <newbie_ubuntu> L3top: what is pastebinit for ? :) sorry i dont understand
[23:54] <christophe> nl ??
[23:54] <pukesalot> access
[23:55] <wylde> !nl | christophe
[23:55] <L3top> !pastebinit | newbie_ubuntu
[23:58] <acmeinc1> any idea why postfix logs to both mail.log AND syslog?  Would removing *.* from the rsyslog.d rules prevent this?  Would removing *.* prevent other (important) events from logging?
[23:59] <escott> acmeinc1, i would guess the answers to that are yes and yes


[01:53] <mparillo> Figures, right after I tested OEM.
 Wireless networknig "not working" during install.  "org.freedesktop.NetworkManger.PermissionDenied: Not authorized to control networking" looks like we need another iso.
[03:17] <valorie> icky
[03:17] <valorie> I would report the BR in release
[03:18] <valorie> and also ask if other flavors are experiencing the same thing
 In progress....
[03:18] <valorie> #ubuntu-flavors is the chan
[03:18] <valorie> great chan
 ubuntu-bug ubiquity....
[03:18] <valorie> yeah
[03:19] <valorie> about 9 out of 10 bugs
[03:19] <valorie> :(
 just verified wireless works fine after install....
[03:20] <valorie> heh
 Hmmm, this was an issue back in 2013.... https://askubuntu.com/questions/304159/not-authorized-to-control-networking/304181
 nm, that was not ubiquity related....
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1848413
 Looks like same bug crashes the GTK ubiquity completely
[06:38] <valorie> always on release day ubiquity breaks
[06:38] <valorie> gosh
[06:41] <RikMills> To be fair, it's been broken most days for about a week. just in lots of different ways, most affecting GTK and zfs. lol
[06:56] <vip> hi ho
[07:34] <valorie> RikMills: lol, that's one way to look at it.....
[07:34]  * valorie goes to bed and hopes for the best
[09:36] <mparillo> [05:22] <bdmurray> There will be a respin of isos shortly. (05:22 EDT = 0922 UTC)
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191017)
[13:15] <mparillo> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds/201242/testcases
[13:15] <mparillo> But I get a 404 on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20191017/MD5SUMS
[13:19] <RikMills> they are coming
[13:19] <RikMills> error at the end of build stopped the copy
[14:19] <mparillo> Now there is an MD5 9854741e5ffecc349fcf073ea13ff2ea *eoan-desktop-amd64.iso but my latest zsync does not match. Does it take a little while to copy the ISO to current?
[14:23] <mparillo> Answering my own question: Yes. Waiting five minutes, and zsync found the changes, and now my MD5s match.
[14:23] <RikMills> let me ssh into my desktop where my zsyncs are and check
[14:23] <RikMills> oh, ok :)
[14:24] <RikMills> crappy laptop I am on at the moment can't do test, so any/all help is appreciated
[15:33] <mparillo> Live Session, Full Disk Install, Encrypted Install all look good in VMWare. Starting OEM now.
[15:34] <santa_> good afternoon everybody
[15:35] <santa_> I have been a bit busy these weeks, RikMills did I miss something important wrt packaging?
[16:35] <RikMills> santa_: there are a few things I would like to mention, but you may already be aware. lets look to having a chat this weekend, or early next week
[16:36] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been marked as ready
[16:51] <crydotsnake-M> Hello. Sorry that i was Not so much active in the Last Weeks. Please forgive ne!. I Hope you all Feeling Well ! :).
[16:51] <crydotsnake-M> * Hello. Sorry that i was Not so much active in the Last Weeks. Please forgive me!. I Hope you all Feeling Well ! :).
[16:55] <santa_> RikMills: ok, ping me tomorrow morning anytime
[17:08] <santa_> RikMills: excuse me I meant saturday, ping me saturday anytime
[17:09]  * santa_ needs more coffee
[17:19] <crydotsnake-M> :D
[18:14] <crydotsnake-M> Coffee is Always good.
[18:54] <[Relic]> he should just have had his elfs take a message
[23:06] <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-19-10-is-released-today/
[23:10] <valorie> rt plz


[06:38] <Kilos>  compliments of the season to all you geek types. may this year be just great for you all


[20:21] <valorie> hmm, no ahoneybun
[23:28] <Mamarok> he is not on FN either
[23:29] <Mamarok> but since he is coming in through a bridge that might be the problem, the bridges are down on FN, and likely not yet up here, depending on which he is using
[23:32] <valorie> true that
[23:32] <valorie> also it's a weekend
[23:32] <valorie> and he's likely not looking at his computer at all


[10:29] <mup> Bug #1889646 changed: "Sorry, home directories outside of /home are not currently supported." during maas init <MAAS:Invalid> <snapd:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889646>
[14:26] <mup> Bug #1810796 opened: Unexpected APC power control configuration behavior <auto-sanity> <maas> <odm-priority> <oem-priority> <taipei-lab> <MAAS:Fix Committed> <OEM Priority Project:Fix Committed by taihsiangho> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1810796>
[14:32] <mup> Bug #1810796 changed: Unexpected APC power control configuration behavior <auto-sanity> <maas> <odm-priority> <oem-priority> <taipei-lab> <MAAS:Fix Committed> <OEM Priority Project:Fix Committed by taihsiangho> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1810796>
[14:35] <mup> Bug #1810796 opened: Unexpected APC power control configuration behavior <auto-sanity> <maas> <odm-priority> <oem-priority> <taipei-lab> <MAAS:Fix Committed> <OEM Priority Project:Fix Committed by taihsiangho> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1810796>
[15:38] <mup> Bug #1892384 opened: Unable to update storage size if node is in deployed state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892384>
[15:41] <mup> Bug #1892384 changed: Unable to update storage size if node is in deployed state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892384>
[15:47] <mup> Bug #1892384 opened: Unable to update storage size if node is in deployed state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892384>
[15:50] <mup> Bug #1892384 changed: Unable to update storage size if node is in deployed state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892384>
[15:53] <mup> Bug #1892384 opened: Unable to update storage size if node is in deployed state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892384>


[17:04] <Guest94> Hi, I wonder if I can display the battery of HID devices (Logitech keyboard and mouse) on the panel? It is showing in the Power section of the Budgie control panel.
[17:13] <fossfreedom_> Best ask this here https://github.com/buddiesOfBudgie/budgie-desktop