[05:02] <Chousuke> sno_: backports are neever good ;/
[05:02] <catfox> ccooke, i see. cheers mate
[05:02] <KasperTech> Thanks all, and bye for now. :)
[05:02] <KasperTech> Dinner's ready.
[05:02] <samuel> cya GL
[05:02] <KasperTech> Thanks.
[05:02] <ccooke> catfox: does your laptop have a monitor port?
[05:02] <catfox> ccooke, i think it's tvout
[05:02] <Chousuke> Quite an expensive laptop it is he's getting
[05:02] <ccooke> catfox: right, I see.
[05:03] <zAo^> with what program can I get thumbnails of my Canon RAW files???
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, actually there's two ports, but they've got icons next to them not labels
[05:03] <Chousuke> My powerbook didn't cost that much. :P
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, on this laptop anyway. not sure about my one at home
[05:03] <ccooke> catfox: does one have an icon like |O|
[05:03] <sno_> i just want to install the acrobat reader, but the backports are always offline..
[05:03] <ccooke> catfox: ?
[05:03] <zAo^> no1?
[05:03] <catfox> ccooke, yeah it does
[05:03] <RockyBurt> are there any gnome power management utils for configuring acpi with breezy badger?  i need some way to tell my laptop to not use power-stepping (where it changes the clockspeed dynamically) when plugged into AC
[05:03] <AnguS> hi! I'm using breezy, the kernel jsut got upgraded... and now my windows is missing from the GRUB menu. this always happened on breezy, but now also the "boot" configuration panel from the admin menu is gone, so i have no clue how to bring windows back. any clue?
[05:04] <n00bster> is there en Emulator on Ubuntu?
[05:04] <tritium> !tell sno_ about acroread
[05:04] <Chousuke> n00bster: for what?
[05:04] <ccooke> catfox: D-shaped, three rows of five holes?
[05:04] <tritium> n00bster: what kind of emulator?
[05:04] <n00bster> win software
[05:04] <samuel> so, how to stop nautilus from showing the full filename if over XX letters anyone?
[05:04] <n00bster> like wine.
[05:04] <Chousuke> try wine
[05:04] <Chousuke> :P
[05:04] <catfox> ccooke, yep
[05:04] <ccooke> catfox: right. you have a monitor port, then :-)
[05:04] <catfox> ccooke, hurrah!
[05:04] <tritium> n00bster: there are all kinds of emulators available
[05:04] <n00bster> can i add it from "add & remuve programs" ?
[05:05] <Chousuke> n00bster: use synaptic
[05:05] <catfox> ccooke, so that other line to add to xorg.conf, any ideas what it'd be?
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: got a spare monitor?
[05:05] <sno_> thanx tritium
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: I can show you how to configure it, it's easy.
[05:05] <catfox> ccooke, not here, i'm at the office. have at ome tho
[05:05] <ompaul> tell n00bster about wine
[05:05] <tritium> sno_: sure thing :)
[05:05] <n00bster> is it en instellation onption on ubuntu ?
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: okay
[05:05] <ccooke> catfox: The way to do it:
[05:05] <tritium> n00bster: yes, if you have the universe repo setup
[05:05] <sno_> oh, tritium: it's a 404 :>
[05:06] <n00bster> "universe repo setup" ? ?
[05:06] <tritium> sno_: really?  We'll bug Seveas about that then ;)
[05:06] <sproingie> anyone have recommendations for a decent filtering proxy like proxomitron but for linux?
[05:06] <tritium> !tell n00bster about repositories
[05:06] <ccooke> catfox: 1) find the 'Device' section for your card. Make a complete copy of it and change the Identifier from 'whatever' to 'whatever 2'
[05:06] <sno_> i just want to read this damn pdf :>>
[05:07] <tritium> sno_: xpdf and evince don't cut the mustard for you?
[05:07] <ccooke> catfox: 2) Do exactly the same for the Monitor section
[05:07] <sno_> tritium: what's evince? i'll try it
[05:07] <n00bster> ok, i'll download it from there , & i'll see how do i manage with instellation :} ty !!
[05:07] <tritium> sno_: a pdf viewer
[05:07] <ccooke> catfox: 3) Do the same for the Screen section
[05:07] <sno_> !tell sno_ about evince
[05:08] <tritium> !info evince
[05:08] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[05:08] <RockyBurt> i guess there's no easy way to change laptop acpi settings in ubutnu breezy badger?
[05:08] <ccooke> catfox: 4) in the Device section, add 'Screen 0' to the first copy and 'Screen 1' to the second.
[05:08] <sno_> yeah i can install evince.. thnx very much
[05:08] <tritium> RockyBurt: edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[05:08] <tritium> good luck, sno_ :)
[05:08] <ccooke> catfox: 5) In the layout section, you'll have something like 'Screen "Default Screen"'
[05:09] <ccooke> catfox: underneath it, add 'Screen "Default Screen 2" RightOf "Default Screen"'
[05:09] <tritium> ccooke: setting up TwinView?
[05:09] <ccooke> catfox: (changing the name or relationshipto the Identifier on your second Screen section
[05:09] <ccooke> tritium: no
[05:10] <ccooke> catfox: Try restarting. If it complains, or only sees one screen, try adding 1 to the last digit of the BusID in the second Device section.
[05:11] <ccooke> catfox: (whether the two heads of a graphics card are the same BusID can depend on the architecture)
[05:12] <Shin_Gouki> hi
[05:12] <RockyBurt> tritium: there's no easy way to configure clockspeed dynamic control? (power mannagement stuff)
[05:12] <avalost> i've got a coffee buzz, eep
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> hello! : if im usding the "normal" ubnunto 5.10 CD install iso, what is the smallest possible configuration of a ubuntu system??
[05:13] <tritium> RockyBurt: that file is primarily for configuring suspend and hibernate.
[05:13] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: 100MB
[05:13] <AnguS> PLEASE can someone with a windows dual-boot system paste me his GRUB lines to boot the windows partition? breezy wiped them out here...
[05:13] <Chousuke> about.
[05:13] <tritium> RockyBurt: are you running powernowd?
[05:13] <avalost> Shin_Gouki, for deafault when you install type 'server'
[05:13] <avalost> enter
[05:13] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: but that's not very usable.
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> t @ Chosuke
[05:14] <tritium> AnguS: why do you say that breezy wiped them out?
[05:14] <RockyBurt> tritium: i have no idea what i'm running... all i know is right now my clockspeed is changing frequently depending on load... but while plugged into AC i really want my clockspeed to stay fixed at the highest setting
[05:14] <Chousuke> Shin_Gouki: it doesn't have X or anything yet.
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> i want a shell and if possible gnome too ?
[05:14] <avalost> Shin_Gouki, are you 'really' tight on space?
[05:14] <kemik> gnome is huge
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> hm how big this goes then? and does ubuntu also needd something like a "swap" file?
[05:14] <AnguS> tritium: because it worked fine, then it upgraded the kernel, i rebooted and windows was out of the grub menu
[05:14] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  see other Window Managers...
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> yes i only have 700 MB :/
[05:14] <tritium> RockyBurt: what architecture?
[05:14] <kemik> like IceWM, XFCE
[05:14] <Shin_Gouki> x68 1238 MB RAM
[05:15] <avalost> wow 700 MB is not enough to run x
[05:15] <RockyBurt> tritium: this is a dell latitude d800 ... intel centrino tech
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> ups x86 128 MB ram ^^
[05:15] <AnguS> AnguS: it always happened since i installed breezy a couple of weeks ago, but there was this nice control panel for setting up grub, now i dont see it anymore in the admin tools menu
[05:15] <tritium> AnguS: upgrading the kernel only adds a new kernel to the menu
[05:15] <AnguS> i meant tritium
[05:15] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  i'd run icewm or possibly xfce
[05:15] <AnguS> tritium: it doesnt
[05:15] <Shin_Gouki> so 700 MB wwill be fine with x?
[05:15] <tritium> AnguS: really, I mean it
[05:16] <Shin_Gouki> may be i can get 1,2 GB buts nothing more
[05:16] <avalost> kemik, with x and all the other processess i'd think the log's and whatnot would fill 700mb in no time
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yes, http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[05:16] <ccooke> catfox: sorry, had to vanish for a bit. Did that help?
[05:16] <kemik> avalost:  well it wont
[05:16] <tritium> AnguS: hoary or breezy?
[05:16] <Shin_Gouki> 1,2 GB is this engough?
[05:16] <AnguS> tritium: and i really mean that breezy wiped my fucking windows boot entry out of grub each time i upgraded the kernel, i always had to add windows manually via the system\administration\boot tool
[05:16] <tritium> sorry, RockyBurt hoary or breezy?
[05:16] <AnguS> which is now gone since the last upgrade
[05:16] <tritium> AnguS: please watch your language
[05:16] <RockyBurt> tritium: oh, sorry, breezy
[05:16] <AnguS> tritium: breezxy
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  read the link i gave you
[05:16] <Jowi> AnguS, if your Windows is on primary 1st partition: title           Windows + root            (hd0,0) + savedefault + makeactive + chainloader     +1
[05:16] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but 700mb is not much
[05:17] <AnguS> Jowi: thanks
[05:17] <Jowi> AnguS, every + is a new line
[05:17] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  1.2gb would be better ofcourse
[05:17] <Shin_Gouki> thx kemik ill go now and read it!
[05:17] <Jowi> AnguS, except for the last one (+1)
[05:17] <AnguS> Jowi: sure, got that :)
[05:17] <tritium> AnguS: that's not normal operation.
[05:17] <kemik> avalost:  if you see the link i posted you'll see that its possible to have X with about 700mb of space
[05:17] <mellon> Hi all.      In bugzilla, it says that this bug is fixed on the colony 5 cd.   What is a colony 5 cd?
[05:18] <kemik> avalost:  even though it's a tight fit
[05:18] <Jowi> AnguS, but really, it should only add the new kernel to the list, not delete anything...
[05:18] <basti> which is the command to make a file executable?
[05:18] <tritium> AnguS: was the windows partition detected during install?  If not, when you added it, did you run update-grub?
[05:18] <avalost> kemik, i'd say really tight :p
[05:18] <basti> chmod ??
[05:18] <AnguS> Jowi: i know it should, it worked fine on hoary and on breezy in the past but... now it wipes windows out each time
[05:18] <samuel> one last time then i will stop bugging u all, is there a way to set nautilus so it dosnt show the full filename if it has more than xx characters?
[05:18] <AnguS> tritium: yes it was detected during install
[05:18] <kemik> basti:  "man chmod"
[05:19] <AnguS> tritium: then on the first kernel upgrade i did it got away
[05:19] <Jowi> AnguS, add the windows grub item after: ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST - and you should be ok
[05:19] <tritium> mellon: it's a milestone release.  Go to cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy
[05:19] <kemik> basti:  and yes chmod is the 'program' ...
[05:19] <phillipc> it seems that epiphany is not saving the settings I set in about:config. How should I investigate?
[05:19] <tritium> AnguS: sounds fishy
[05:19] <mellon> thanks!
[05:20] <AnguS> tritium: i had to add windows each time after an upgrade via that panel that is now gone
[05:20] <Shin_Gouki> THX @ kemik i hope i ll be able to use it! (small install)
[05:20] <tritium> RockyBurt: please dpkg -l | grep powernow
[05:20] <AnguS> but without i was lost now as i dont know grub hehe
[05:20] <RockyBurt> tritium: rocky@zebrax:~$ dpkg -l | grep powernow
[05:20] <RockyBurt> ii  powernowd                             0.96-2ubuntu1                      control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kern
[05:20] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mmmh.. no guarantees ;)
[05:21] <n00bster> ok, i just installd wine, but i don'n know wher is the shortcut for it..
[05:21] <n00bster> dont*
[05:21] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but im running  debian+icewm on a small p2-233 comp... it's doable :)
[05:21] <n00bster> baa, sorry for my bad English '}
[05:21] <Jowi> n00bster, no shortcut. you use it like this: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[05:21] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : cooll i have exatclty this CPU :)
[05:21] <tritium> RockyBurt: dpkg -L powernowd will list the files in that package.  You should be able to find its config file, likely either in /etc/ or /etc/default.
[05:22] <RockyBurt> tritium: gotcha, thanks
[05:22] <n00bster> ok, but can i create a shortcut fore it?
[05:22] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but you have 128mb ram.. im stuck w 64.. (it's a laptop...) so you'll load stuff much faster :)
[05:22] <avalost> makes me wonder what damn small linux is like
[05:22] <kemik> avalost:  damn small ;)
[05:22] <mellon> angus, have you tried manually editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:22] <tritium> AnguS: perhaps that gui you used altered grubs behavior, because windows should not ever have been deleted from the list
[05:22] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : i have an USB NIC will all APT install stuff work?
[05:23] <AnguS> tritium: might be, i used that tool to set windows xp as default partition
[05:23] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  if you are somewhat experienced i would recommend you to use Vector Linux.. it's got rave reviews over att madpenguin... unfortunately i couldnt install on my laptop.. broken CDreader :|
[05:23] <tritium> AnguS: and if you ever manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, always be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after
[05:23] <AnguS> tritium: probably it messed up something
[05:23] <avalost> so far e17 has taken 3 hours and 53 minutes to compile..
[05:23] <tritium> AnguS: now that I'd believe
[05:23] <basti> kemik, seriously that manually isnt written very pedagogic...
[05:23] <n00bster> can i create a shortcut fore wine, menually?
[05:23] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  dont know..... you should research it beforehand
[05:24] <basti> could u just tell me the command?
[05:24] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : how to i do this?
[05:24] <mellon> Oh, really?  I never do that.   :'}
[05:24] <kemik> basti:  the man-pages seldom are.. but you should make an effort to learn howto read them..  :)
[05:24] <Shin_Gouki> if i have the modell number were can i look for support?
[05:24] <kemik> basti:  the way to set the executeflag is "chmod +x file"
[05:24] <lotia> this may be obvious, but is there a way to upgrade mozilla-firefox. the update manager is showing that i need to install the update, but i get an error on installation
[05:24] <AnguS> thanks for your help, im rebooting now... if you dont hear from me everything went fine :P
[05:24] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  the ubuntu-wiki / forums / google
[05:25] <Shin_Gouki> kemik thx ill take a try!
[05:25] <Jowi> Shin_Gouki, is it a wifi-card?
[05:25] <kemik> lotia:  dont use backports
[05:25] <mellon> Hm, the man page says update-grub will regenerate menu.lst, which doesn't sound so good...
[05:25] <basti> kemik, thats what I wrote but the file didnt turn green :S
[05:25] <lotia> kemik: is there a problem with that repository?
[05:25] <basti> gonna try as sudo
[05:26] <kemik> lotia:  yes.. they named the package firefox and it's colliding with mozilla-firefox
[05:26] <basti> ah no I wrote -x
[05:26] <tritium> mellon: no, you need to do that
[05:26] <kemik> basti:  - removes ;)
[05:26] <tritium> or the changes won't be kept
[05:26] <ions> unbuntu-docs is failing to upgrade
[05:26] <avalost> who reads docs :P
[05:26] <basti> ok heeh :P
[05:26] <kemik> basti:  if you learn to use the man-pages, you'll be far along 'mastering linux' ;)
[05:26] <kemik> man-pages and google
[05:26] <mellon> Weird.   I never do it, and haven't lost any changes.
[05:27] <tritium> ions: you're running breezy, eh?  dist-upgrade to handle that (it'll get removed)
[05:27] <mellon> I just keep my changes out of the automatically-updated part of the file.
[05:27] <catfox> ccooke, sorry i disappeared too. i'll give that a go later, thanks very much
[05:27] <n00bster> wine /path/to/setup.exe ??
[05:27] <selinium> zAo^, Has anyone answered your RAW question?
[05:27] <ions> dist-upgrade does not
[05:28] <ions> it fails
[05:28] <sno_> i cant access my windows partition with ubuntu - how does that work?
[05:28] <ions> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-docs_5.10-2_all.deb
[05:28] <ions> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:28] <kemik> !tell sno_ about ntfs
[05:28] <kemik> sno_ see pm
[05:28] <tritium> ions: please don't paste
[05:28] <ions> was 2 lines
[05:28] <sno_> kemik thnx
[05:29] <tritium> ions: yeah, I can count, thanks.
[05:29] <ions> just checking
[05:29] <tritium> request still stands
[05:31] <jimmythescumbag> GREETINGS
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> ubuntu has random lockup with xorg when using the nvidia drivers
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> all versions
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> only slackware is stable with nvidia drivers
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> any know of a solution
[05:31] <joachim_> what do I need to add to .bash_profile so one tab lists possible completions?
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> happens more frequenty in gentoo
[05:31] <kemik> Lord_Vader:  install slackware
[05:31] <kemik> ;)
[05:31] <kemik> hehe
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> hehe
[05:31] <blekos> anyone know how i can get the updates avail?
[05:31] <Lord_Vader> slackware == kick ass
[05:31] <jimmythescumbag> ubuntu keeps taking a dump in the homeless childrens book donation box, why?
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> those poor kids have to read shitty books
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> with crap on them
[05:32] <jimmythescumbag> even if you wipe it off, it dosn't go away
[05:32] <kemik> jimmythescumbag:  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:34] <sambagirl> lordvader you still here?
[05:34] <sambagirl> lord_vader you still here?
[05:34] <sno_> how can i delete a folder?
[05:34] <sambagirl> del *.*
[05:34] <sambagirl> :D
[05:34] <tritium> whois jimmythescumbag
[05:34] <sno_> oh thx :>
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> ...
[05:34] <blekos> anyone know how i can get the updates avail?
[05:34] <blekos> lol
[05:34] <blekos> sno don't do that...
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> folder sambagirl ... its rmdir
[05:34] <jimmythescumbag> nice one tritium
[05:35] <blekos> :|)0
[05:35] <steve> can someone help me install my ati x800xl, nothing i do seems to work
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> sambagirl: yes im here
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> pls don't do that to users asking for help sambagirl
[05:35] <sno_> why not blekos?
[05:35] <Jowi> sno_, rm -rf foldername (-rf means recursively force delete all the files in that folder)
[05:35] <sambagirl> lord_vader your name is wayne from australia?
[05:35] <blekos> :))
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> rm -rf
[05:35] <tritium> jimmythescumbag: please keep that in -offtopic
[05:35] <Lord_Vader> rm -rf /path to folder
[05:35] <blekos> rm 0rf
[05:35] <blekos> RemoVe -rf
[05:35] <RenaGade> hello is anyone a helper here ?
[05:35] <blekos> check tha man
[05:36] <jimmythescumbag> sambagirl, please, keep that in off-topic
[05:36] <blekos> do man rm for more info
[05:36] <tritium> RenaGade: most are
[05:36] <RenaGade> ok
[05:36] <sambagirl> damnit jimmy i am just asking a simple question. and i did already so relax.
[05:36] <RenaGade> i have a question on this site http://www.ubuntu.com/
[05:36] <blekos> anybody had problem with updating??
[05:36] <Lord_Vader> sambagirl: no
[05:37] <RenaGade> are the linux cd's are free and shipping to  ?
[05:37] <blekos> if u r asking for ubuntu yes
[05:37] <blekos> the're free
[05:37] <RenaGade> ok ty
[05:37] <blekos> but till the release none will be sent
[05:37] <blekos> (13 october)
[05:37] <RenaGade> ok cause im in florida
[05:38] <jimmythescumbag> RenaGade, keep that in offtopic please
[05:38] <RenaGade> ok sorry
[05:38] <tritium> RenaGade: you're free to ask that.  It was not offtopic
[05:38] <RenaGade> oh ok
[05:38] <sambagirl> how do you expect anyone to just happen to be in offtopic when private messaging is turned off?
[05:39] <sambagirl> geez
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> pm is turn off ?
[05:39] <tritium> sambagirl: ?
[05:39] <blekos> tritium, how can i get the updates?
[05:39] <tritium> blekos: what do you mean?
[05:39] <sambagirl> bbl chao
[05:39] <tritium> sambagirl: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <tritium> doesn't require private messaging
[05:39] <blekos> well i had a problem running the update manager
[05:40] <tritium> blekos: please be specific
[05:40] <blekos> sorry, give me a sec to try again
[05:40] <RenaGade> ok thanks for your help  :-)
[05:40] <Answer> When formatting a partition for Linux Ext3, what is the best "Cluster Size"  1k, 2k, 4k ?
[05:40] <prego> Answer, afaik, you should let it decide...
[05:41] <tritium> Answer: there is no "best".  Like all things, it's a tradeoff.
[05:41] <Answer> tritium: Please explain pros and cons of the tradeoff
[05:41] <Shin_Gouki> kemik u still there?
[05:41] <stefanomasini> hi. I just installed ubuntu. I loved the graphical partitioning tool. How can I start it again on my installed system to partition a new disk I just installed?
[05:41] <tritium> Answer: tradeoff between average file size and fs performance
[05:42] <Answer> tritium: so which one did you pick
[05:42] <havoc> Answer: smaller block size is *generally* more efficient, but limits the size of the partition as there are a finite number of addressable blocks
[05:42] <Shin_Gouki> it seems i was able to get 4,2 GB diskspace, will this & 128 MB ramm enough for ubuntu?
[05:42] <tritium> Answer: I leave it at the default, and don't worry about it.
[05:42] <joachim_> stefanomasini, gparted maybe?
[05:42] <blekos> i run the update manager and when i choose install
[05:42] <Jowi> stefanomasini, gparted is one of them.
[05:42] <blekos> i get the following error message
[05:42] <blekos> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <blekos> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:42] <Pluk> l
[05:42] <havoc> Answer: efficient in terms of disk usage that is, not in terms of performance
[05:42] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:42] <stefanomasini> joachim_: it that it? Wait... by "graphical" I meant graphical _text_ interface
[05:42] <Seveas> blekos, close synaptic
[05:43] <prego> Shin_Gouki, a bit low values but could do
[05:43] <Answer> OK I have plenty of disk space, I want the best performance
[05:43] <blekos> i did
[05:43] <Jowi> blekos, make sure you have not started another package manager like aptitude
[05:43] <Shin_Gouki> i just need a baisc SOHO system,
[05:43] <prego> Answer, use reiserfs ;-P
[05:43] <Answer> blekos:  killall synaptic
[05:43] <tritium> Answer: havoc seems more knowledgeable than I am in that area.
[05:43] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  im here
[05:43] <Answer> prego: Is reiserfs the bestest?  what about jfs and ext3
[05:43] <Shin_Gouki> what firewalls u guys suggest for use with ubuntuu?
[05:43] <blekos> noone is running
[05:43] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:43] <blekos> shin gouki
[05:43] <havoc> Answer: just use the default
[05:43] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  i would *not* recommend using gnome.. it will take *looong* loading times
[05:43] <blekos> firestarter
[05:43] <joachim_> graphical _text_ interface <- evil evil! ;)
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  XFCE or IceWM is the way togo
[05:44] <Answer> havoc: is ext3 the best partition type?
[05:44] <joachim_> gparted is very nice to use :)
[05:44] <blekos> what i do next seveas
[05:44] <Shin_Gouki> @kemik HOW olng? ^^ 1 /2 min?
[05:44] <prego> Answer, I'm happy with reiserfs (reiser3, I guess).
[05:44] <havoc> Answer: if you choose too small a block size you may need to use a smaller partition size
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  loading gnome took about 5-8minutes on a p2-233 64mb ram
[05:44] <tritium> Answer: I personally would not recommend reiserfs, as it has massively corrupted for me in the past
[05:44] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: and new applicatio0ns?
[05:44] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  loading firefox, another 40-80seconds. and so on
[05:45] <stefanomasini> joachim_: I can't really use gparted. My system is a server, I don't want X
[05:45] <blekos> hmm, next, what do i do guys?
[05:45] <Answer> Let's have a poll everyone, which is the best filesystem:  Ext3, JFS or Reiserfs?
[05:45] <havoc> Answer: ext3 is probably to *easiest* and more reliable option, but I'm sure there are others here like prego that use either reiserfs or others
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> thers a framebuffer version of qt_parted I think. :P
[05:45] <Whistler> i am getting http://pastebin.com/377794 what should i do?
[05:45] <tritium> kemik: you must have a really slow machine?
[05:45] <Whistler> any ideas?
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> Whistler, get the library ?
[05:45] <Jowi> blekos, does "sudo aptitude" give you errors as well?
[05:45] <prego> havoc, let's hope it does not get corrupted 8-P
[05:46] <havoc> prego: heh :)
[05:46] <havoc> I just use ext3
[05:46] <stefanomasini> I was kinda wondering what was the one used in the installer! :)
[05:46] <havoc> it "works"
[05:46] <Whistler> wickedpuppy how do i do that?
[05:46] <Jowi> ext3 out of habit really.
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> synaptic
[05:46] <blekos> no
[05:46] <kemik> tritium:  my parents computer... had to reinstall it when i was there... and had misplaced the networkdriver for win98.. so the option was Ubuntu w/gnome or Win2k
[05:46] <prego> havoc, I did use ext3 at my RH7.x system, but when I switched to ubuntu I have reiser a try and I didn't notice anything disgusting...
[05:46] <Shin_Gouki> right kemik!
[05:46] <Jowi> blekos, good, so quit aptitude and try "sudo synaptic" again
[05:46] <Whistler> i am using ext3 and i am happy about ir
[05:47] <Whistler> *it
[05:47] <kemik> tritium:  but since Ubuntu w/gnome isnt feasible really, they've gotten a new computer ... :)
[05:47] <tritium> kemik: heh
[05:47] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  in short: ubuntu w/gnome *works* but you'll never use it :)
[05:47] <thesilentkiller> i am trying to add additional repositories..but i see that all hoary backports are empty (http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/). because of this 'apt-get update' is failing for me
[05:47] <thesilentkiller> any clues anyone?
[05:47] <Shin_Gouki> kemik!: i am at excatly same situtioan: parents PC: Win98 old -slow, now i want linux!
[05:47] <stefanomasini> partman! that's it!
[05:47] <Jowi> thesilentkiller, yeah, try another mirror for the backports. mirrormax has been shut down
[05:48] <thesilentkiller> oh i c...thanks :)
[05:48] <basti> is there any good emule client under ubuntu?
[05:48] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  id try with XFCE4 then.. but be aware, the automagic of adding USB devices is lost when not using gnome
[05:48] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  so you'll have to tweak alittle to get cameras and usb-printers etc working :/
[05:48] <Tomcat_> basti: amule is decent.
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: which means i have to handle "hotpluggin" <<mayself>>?
[05:49] <prego> kemik, sure. However, dmesg is your friend, there, isn't it?
[05:49] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mmh.. or at least tweak abit with hotplug
[05:49] <basti> thanks Tomcat_
[05:49] <catfox> anyone know what ubuntu support is like for ipod nano's?
[05:49] <tritium> hey nalioth
[05:49] <Jowi> got to go. bbl. bye everyone
[05:49] <nalioth> morning all you work shirkers
[05:49] <kemik> i got their usb-camera to work.. but not automagic-detected so i figured i couldnt leave my parents with that solution
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: hmm ^^ gnome ssems fine with me ... is there a possibility to test both : gnome & XFCE4? i now managed to get 4GB dsik Space!!
[05:50] <kemik> unless i was going todo techsupport everytime they wanna see pictures ;)
[05:50] <blekos> still getting the same error...
[05:50] <Whistler> how do i convert rpm to deb?
[05:50] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  of course.. do the full ubuntuinstall, and then apt-get xfce4
[05:50] <kemik> Whistler:  alien
[05:50] <nalioth> Whistler: you shouldnt
[05:50] <havoc> wickedpuppy: alien
[05:50] <nalioth> Whistler: what program do you want?
[05:50] <tritium> Whistler: alien, but in general, it's better to use native ubuntu .debs
[05:50] <havoc> and what nalioth said
[05:50] <Whistler> i need lib
[05:51] <Whistler> and i cant find native one
[05:51] <havoc> Whistler: which lib?
[05:51] <tritium> which one, Whistler?  It's likely available
[05:51] <nalioth> Whistler: theres about 30000000 of em
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : full doesnt sound good i want decide almost everything at the installation is this possible?
[05:51] <prego> Shin_Gouki, I would say that 4Gb is enough. Not much, but enough.
[05:51] <Whistler> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:51] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  then you have to go with "server" and add packages yourself
[05:51] <Whistler> anybody heard of libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[05:51] <prego> Shin_Gouki, IMHO your major problem is the RAM 128MB only
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> i will cut off all Video suport Audio will be
[05:51] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  depending on your linux experience, that's a good or bad choice ;)
[05:52] <kemik> prego:  a p2-233 isnt much to brag with tho.. even if you have 256mb of ram, it wont be quick
[05:52] <Shin_Gouki> prego there is no discussion about the RAM its a old system u cant buy new one of those and i dont want to buy ..
[05:52] <kemik> prego:  the damn HD's on those machines are sooo slow ;)
[05:52] <nalioth> Whistler: search in synaptic for libstdc++
[05:52] <tritium> or use apt-cache search
[05:52] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur right : the HDs are sOOOOO slow o_O
[05:53] <havoc> maybe he thinks he needs it cuz he's trying to build something from source rather than using a package
[05:53] <prego> kemik, Shin_Gouki, I've installed ubuntu hoary at my K6-II+ 500MHz, 384MB RAM and runs a bit slow but OK. Sure that CPU is perhaps a bit faster than a P2-233, but not that much, I guess.
[05:53] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  as i said tho.. i'd go with a "server-install" and then apt-get the X system along with XFCE
[05:54] <tritium> havoc: there are dev. libs available for that
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur right ill try this one!
[05:54] <kemik> prego:  oh that's a nice system.. i've got a celeron450 with 512mb ram.. its running "ok" ...
[05:54] <blekos> how do i update th source.list file?
[05:54] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, at which point of the installation ill be ask the "server" question?
[05:54] <kemik> but it has a 'new' HD
[05:54] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  first question
[05:54] <blekos> the commamd is sudo update....?
[05:55] <tritium> blekos: either with synaptic, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  you have to type "server" at the prompt
[05:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, thx!
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  maybe print that mini-ram howto.. it'll tell you how to get X on the system
[05:55] <prego> Shin_Gouki, good luck!!
[05:55] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  and i hope you have an internetconnection (and that it'll work :) )
[05:55] <blekos> yes i have done that,
[05:55] <kemik> goodluck
[05:55] <blekos> but what is the command to refresh the list into the system...
[05:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, yes i do not fear this anymore.. but willi be able to use IRC after install?
[05:56] <kevor> how's that commandline program called that outputs big letters of the input text?
[05:56] <danfg> do you guys have any idea in which directory should I install Java Runtime Environment files?
[05:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yeah.. apt-get install irssi
[05:56] <prego> kevor, banner
[05:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  it's ncurses based.. so it'll work even w/o X
[05:56] <digitize> yes irssi is great
[05:56] <tritium> danfg: I'd take your .bin from Sun, and build a .deb with make-jpkg (in java-package)
[05:56] <tritium> !tell danfg about sunjava
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: we have debs now
[05:57] <kevor> prego: not exactly what i mean, i mean the one that outputs horizontally wiht |/\ sings
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: take it easy on em
[05:57] <nalioth> tritium: +r please
[05:57] <sno_> some1 know a good cd ripper?
[05:57] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, hmmm thx i see! but that wont work for a HTML browser right? ^_~
[05:57] <fdsaf> q: is there a netinstall for 5.04 ?
[05:57] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  "links" or "lynx"
[05:58] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  but i'm not sure how many webpages they can display these days...
[05:58] <danfg> thanks tritium :)
[05:58] <Shin_Gouki> kemik , very thx , u title should be : low level specialists:
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> the mans u need today the most ^^
[05:59] <fdsaf> netinstalll.... anyone?
[05:59] <tritium> danfg: sure :)  If that's too much hassle, there are pre-made .debs, as nalioth points out.  I just question the legality of distributing them, so I won't officially sanction them.
[05:59] <Shin_Gouki> kemik : because everyone can get linux on a "new" system but old hardware is lot of more work..
[06:00] <kemik> heehe :)
[06:00] <nalioth> tritium: then give em a warning and show em the link :)
[06:00] <mahangu__> im just playing wesnoth
[06:00] <mahangu__> it the rocks
[06:01] <tritium> fdsaf: see the wiki Installation page.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> unless the system is too new. :P
[06:02] <prego> fdsaf, there was not for 4.10.... you had to netinstall debian and ubuntize it later... I don't really know for 5.04 or 5.10.
[06:02] <joyzze> where is grub.conf kept ?
[06:03] <tritium> joyzze: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:03] <fdsaf> yeah 'Installation/Netboot' in wiki i think
[06:03] <Shin_Gouki> kemik , one "last" question: i did start now 5.04 release download, will this be fine?
[06:03] <tritium> yes, fdsaf, that's it
[06:03] <sno_> can someone tell me how to optimize my sources.list?
[06:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: you'll be fine
[06:03] <nalioth> !tell sno_ about sources
[06:03] <jgb> what is the default DocumentRoot for apache on 5.04?
[06:03] <nalioth> sno_: don't use unofficial repos
[06:04] <tritium> jgb: I believe /var/www
[06:04] <jgb> tritium: ty
[06:04] <sno_> nalioth: i got backports problems
[06:04] <sno_> :>
[06:04] <nalioth> sno_: yes you do
[06:04] <thesilentkiller> ive googled for quite a long time now. but i cant get to the end of it. how do i install jdk1.5?
[06:04] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: hoary or breezy?
[06:05] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: hoary
[06:05] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[06:06] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: can you please give me a little more info on how to use the files up there...mm..err...newbie :-s
[06:06] <beekay> is anyone else having problems updating mozilla firefox?
[06:06] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  yeah it'll be fine i think.. 5.10 isnt really stable yet (14more days! )
[06:06] <sno_> beekay: yes, me.
[06:06] <beekay> :(
[06:06] <beekay> does it say it cant find the server
[06:06] <sno_> no, just it cant do updates
[06:07] <tritium> ah, the troubles with backports
[06:07] <beekay> It is not possible to upgrade all packages.
[06:07] <beekay> This means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.
[06:07] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: once you get the one you want, open a terminal to where it is and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[06:07] <nalioth> sno_: comment your backports out
[06:07] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: k, thanks
[06:08] <Whistler> how do i use my joystick with ubuntu?
[06:08] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: spam : just 6 hours more to go before i ll have the iso , i think i am very exited LOL
[06:08] <DPadclear> How do you list all installed packages with dpkg and how do you tell which package a file comes from (assuming you're looking at a file in your /usr/bin dir)?
[06:09] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  oouch.. 6hours :)
[06:10] <Shin_Gouki> kemik: yes i only have 24 kbyte/s down
[06:10] <kennethlove> is the CD provided in the topic the same as the Breezy Badger preview?
[06:10] <kemik> :/
[06:10] <nalioth> kennethlove: yes
[06:10] <tritium> DPadclear: dpkg -l to list installed files.  dpkg -S <filename> for the second question
[06:10] <kennethlove> nalioth: thanks, thought so.
[06:10] <kennethlove> i'm having problems upgrading. anyone want to rescue my box?
[06:11] <danfg> tritium, wierd, i'm trying to install Sun's JRE, falling miserably. I downloaded jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin. when i "sudo apt-get ...", i get "Couldn't find java-package". If i try "fakeroot ...", "command not found"
[06:11] <beekay> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_i386.deb
[06:11] <beekay>   404 Not Found
[06:11] <beekay> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu15_all.deb
[06:11] <beekay>   404 Not Found
[06:11] <beekay> why cant i do that
[06:11] <tritium> beekay: don't paste!
[06:11] <kemik> dont paste in here
[06:11] <beekay> im sorry
[06:11] <kemik> READ TOPIC
[06:12] <tritium> danfg: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[06:12] <Shin_Gouki> @kemik : do u have "other" low level guids which i can read in the mean time??
[06:12] <thesilentkiller> beekay: the mirror site is down. use some other mirror
[06:12] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  not really...
[06:12] <kemik> gtg::food
[06:12] <tritium> !tell danfg about repositories
[06:13] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, :/ to bad  that should be an important topic.. and so less documentation :/
[06:13] <sno_> my xmms hangs up when it should play an mp3 file.. strange. :I
[06:14] <DeVeRaS> guys, i installed ubuntu with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?
[06:14] <bob2> DeVeRaS: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:14] <bob2> DeVeRaS: tho I don't know how you can "install ubuntu with apt-get"
[06:14] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  mm, but debian/ubuntu isnt really for the old hw... i'd look into slackware / vectorlinux if you want real performance
[06:15] <jklsjsdls> anyone know off a linux programe that reads .ctf files
[06:15] <chicken-man> what is the command that shows how much disk space you have free ?
[06:15] <kennethlove> alright. i tried using the repositories last night, but that failed, so i downloaded the Breezy CD and now it's failing. install works fine but it never successfully boots.
[06:15] <jklsjsdls> there catalog files of some sort
[06:15] <kemik> bob2:  what, you never did apt-get install ubuntu? =)
[06:15] <kemik> chicken-man:  df
[06:15] <DeVeRaS> bob2 i mean install phpbb2
[06:15] <tritium> kennethlove: breezy is still in development
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: also, #debian is not an approriate channel to ask ubuntu questions
[06:15] <kennethlove> tritium: yes, i know. but it's installable.
[06:15] <DrTiger> when will breezy support ATI dri again?
[06:15] <chicken-man> kemik, thanks
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: it has no /usr/share/doc/phpbb2/?
[06:15] <DeVeRaS> guys, i installed phpbb2 with apt-get and i don't kow the admin password. doesn't ask for noting so i can't do anything... how do i set up it?
[06:15] <bob2> DeVeRaS: as much as hoary did
[06:15] <tritium> kennethlove: yes, it is
[06:16] <DeVeRaS> let me check
[06:16] <zAo^> selinium, sorry, was afk. No; no1 did answer. You know a programm for that?
[06:16] <DeVeRaS> no, no doc
[06:17] <DeVeRaS> i don't have a login, nor i was asked for one...
[06:17] <kennethlove> tritium: after the CD  install, when it goes to finish installation by installing files off the hard disk, it keeps freezing at 4%.
[06:17] <selinium> zAo^, look up dcraw in synaptic
[06:17] <ckrueger> has anyone ever messed with Firestarter?
[06:18] <tritium> kennethlove: well, hopefully it'll work for you when it's released
[06:18] <selinium> ckrueger, yep
[06:18] <ckrueger> i'm trying to get my buddy's fileserver/router set up, but he refuses to learn iptables or anything
[06:18] <ckrueger> he just wants point-and-click
[06:18] <zAo^> selinium, but how can I get thumbnails in -for example- nautilus/gthumb2?
[06:18] <ckrueger> so i'm trying to figure this piece of crap out to get him going
[06:18] <selinium> firestarter is for him then!
[06:18] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm getting weird errors regarding the DHCP daemon
[06:18] <joachim_> is there somewhere I can give a list of sudo commands I can allow myself to do without the sudo?
[06:18] <jjazz> joachim_:  man sudoers
[06:19] <selinium> ckrueger, What are you trying to do?
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm trying to set up internet connection sharing (routing) with a DHCP server
[06:19] <kenro> Free NetRadio! Boycott everything blocking streaming over their network!
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, he's an Apple fanboy
[06:19] <ckrueger> selinium, so point-and-click is critical
[06:20] <selinium> k So have you installed firestarter?
[06:20] <ckrueger> that's insulting
[06:20] <ckrueger> lol
[06:20] <ckrueger> yes, it is installed
[06:20] <ckrueger> and it works when it's not trying to do ip masq
[06:20] <steve> can anyone help me install my x800xl?
[06:20] <selinium> :)
[06:20] <kennethlove> hah. so no help. :)
[06:20] <ckrueger> however, every time i try to start it with ICS enabled it gives an error
[06:20] <ckrueger> selinium, and syslog says "No subnet declaration for eth0 (x.x.x.x)
[06:20] <steve> the fglrx driver doesn't seem to have my video card supported
[06:21] <ckrueger> i've edited the /etc/default/dhcp file and changed INTERFACES to eth1
[06:21] <ckrueger> which is the internal net
[06:21] <ckrueger> and i've even manually edited the /etc/init.d/dhcp script and set it to eth1 there as well
[06:21] <tritium> kenro: you don't network admins to have the right to block what they want?
[06:21] <ckrueger> and it still kicks back the "No subnet declaration for eth0" every time it tries to start (at the hands of Firestarter)
[06:23] <ckrueger> selinium, any ideas?
[06:23] <MachineScrew> is there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy
[06:23] <selinium> ckrueger, It's Ok. I use it to control my webservers ports, not quite sure I konw enough to help. Have looked in the preferences to see whether you are blocking any of the broadcast messages?
[06:23] <MachineScrew> bum dosn't work
[06:23] <kenro> tritium: Don't we have the right to access every legal service anywhere?
[06:23] <BurgerMann> I have installed sshd on my server. Suddenly I can't connect to it. Now I partly know what do to to gain access again, something like RSA fingerprint in a local file that needs to be flushed or somehting. Does anyone know what file it is?
[06:23] <ckrueger> selinium, it doesn't even get to the point where the service can broadcast messages
[06:24] <tritium> kenro: not on others' networks, if they don't want you to
[06:24] <MachineScrew> any one
[06:24] <MachineScrew> is there any way to stop services from loading on boot in Breezy
[06:24] <ckrueger> selinium, but internal net broadcast filtering is disabled anyway
[06:24] <MachineScrew> bum dosn't work
[06:24] <tritium> bummer, dude
[06:24] <kenro> tritium: I could understand blocking gnuttella, but web-based radio broadcasts?
[06:25] <tritium> kenro: they can do whatever theyt want with their own networks.
[06:25] <snorks> MachineScrew: Find out what the service is called. Find out which runlevel it is. rm the entry
[06:25] <ubuntu_fan> clear
[06:25] <ubuntu_fan> hey guys
[06:25] <selinium> ckrueger, Like i said I am no TCP/IP guru. If you cant get any help here, try #linux :) You seem to konw more than me on this subject! :)
[06:25] <MachineScrew> ?
[06:25] <ckrueger> selinium, heh, thanks for your help
[06:25] <MachineScrew> isn't that bad
[06:25] <ckrueger> selinium, one final question though...  you use it for IP masquerading, no?
[06:26] <ckrueger> selinium, if so, are you using the dhcp server version 2 or 3?
[06:26] <kenro> tritium: Which is irrelevent by now. Took long enough, but I seem to be connected. New problem, though -- My antiquated pcspeaker system seems not equal to the task...
[06:26] <snorks> MachineScrew: let's say you want sshd to NOT start on bootup. check inside /etc/init.d/ to get the name (example: sshd). Find out what run level it is by checking the /etc/rc0-7.d
[06:26] <ryback> hi
[06:27] <ubuntu_fan> can anyone please tell me where is the X server configure file located in Ubuntu i would like to chage my resolution
[06:27] <selinium> ckrueger, I just use it to open/close ports and to drop packet probes.
[06:27] <snorks> MachineScrew: look for anything like S20sshd (s means start). if you find it in lets say /etc/rc3.d, type rm S20sshd
[06:27] <tritium> ubuntu_fan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <ckrueger> selinium, ahh, ok
[06:27] <spiral> hi
[06:27] <ckrueger> selinium, then tell me this...  by default, does it block everything until you make exclusive allow declarations?
[06:27] <ubuntu_fan> tritium, thanks
[06:27] <snorks> MachineScrew: if you ls in /etc/, you will see the rc#.d im talking about
[06:27] <tritium> ubuntu_fan: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you don't want to edit it by hand, in general, unless you have no choice
[06:27] <steve> i just downloaded a driver, how do i install it?
[06:27] <selinium> ckrueger, incoming, yes outgoing no
[06:28] <steve> fglrx64_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.x86_64.rpm, how would i install that
[06:28] <kenro> tritium: They put it up for public access, they owe the public. They should otherwise lock access, or disclaim the * out of it.
[06:28] <tritium> steve: don't use the rpm.  Use an ubuntu .deb
[06:28] <selinium> ckrueger, in FS /prefs /Network settings does it 'see' you network?
[06:28] <snorks> MachineScrew: did you understand any of that?
[06:28] <ubuntu_fan> tritium,  yea i go it now THANKS
[06:29] <tritium> kenro: no, various organizations have networks for _their own_ needs, not the needs of the general public
[06:29] <steve> i downloaded the ati drivers off of ubuntu, but they don't support my video card or are out of date for some reason
[06:29] <steve> by using sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:29] <ckrueger> selinium, yep, which is why it works fine with ICS disabled
[06:29] <kenro> tritium: Disclaim it, then.
[06:29] <ckrueger> selinium, i'm just finding that i get that DHCP error every time it tries to start it with ICS enabled
[06:30] <tritium> kenro: ?
[06:30] <selinium> ckrueger, have you set the DHCP for local network to on?
[06:30] <MachineScrew> also my ubuntu splash screen isn't coming up
[06:30] <tritium> kenro: by the way, this is offtopic
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, yep
[06:30] <MachineScrew> what is up with that
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, DHCP starts fine whenever i manually call the init script now
[06:30] <selinium> ckrueger, I am running out of ideas!
[06:30] <ckrueger> selinium, it just chokes on its own dick whenever it's done through firestarter
[06:31] <kenro> tritium: Right. Switch over to #network-rights-and-responsibilities
[06:31] <steve> i'm on amd64 ubuntu btw
[06:31] <tritium> no thanks, kenro
[06:31] <steve> anyone know where i can get the 64bit drivers for an ati x800xl?
[06:31] <kenro> tritium: ;)
[06:31] <selinium> ckrueger, Sry, beats me!
[06:31] <nalioth> steve: that may be your problem
[06:32] <ckrueger> selinium, heh, thanks anyway for trying :)
[06:32] <steve> what is my problem?
[06:32] <selinium> :)
[06:33] <nalioth> wtf
[06:33] <ckrueger> selinium, i figured it out
[06:33] <bob2> steve: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:33] <bob2> steve: if that doesn't work in breezy, please file a bug
[06:34] <selinium> ckrueger, go on then :)
[06:34] <steve> breezy?
[06:35] <nalioth> bots are running wild today
[06:35] <tritium> steve: the next stable release, due out in mid October
[06:35] <steve> i don't have breezy though..?
[06:35] <selinium> ckrueger, WHat was it?
[06:36] <kenro> Kicker just crashed on me.
[06:36] <puff> I need an app to convert ogg files to mp3 files, so they'll play on my obsolete mp3-only player.
[06:36] <tritium> steve: there are only preview releases of breezy out at this point
[06:36] <bob2> steve: try it anyway
[06:36] <kenro> That never happened in fBSD
[06:36] <steve> bob2,  i tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:36] <steve> it doesn't work out for me
[06:36] <steve> i looked at the error log, and it couldn't find my card
[06:36] <puff> I'm eagerly looking forward to breezy, I think/hope it will fix certain kernel problems that I've been having trouble with.
[06:36] <steve> x800xl doesn't seem to be on the list as well
[06:37] <tritium> puff: you sure you want to do lossy-to-lossy format conversion?
[06:37] <sno_> XMMS doesn't play mp3s.. it just hangs up. - can someone help me?
[06:37] <steve> bob2, by the way,  i'm using aa 6600gt right now, if i follow those steps on my 660gt, will that work?
[06:37] <steve> sno_ change the sound output
[06:38] <bob2> sno_: change it to use esound for output
[06:38] <bob2> steve: should do
[06:38] <Hendric> i just finished install breezy on my old cpu.. it can't display the login screen (monitor goes standby)... i think it can't support the default screen size.. how can i change default resolution?
[06:39] <steve> bob2, they say to Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx", perhaps with a command like:
[06:39] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, after dropping to a virtual conosole, Hendric
[06:39] <steve> bob2 but i dont' have any "ati" written in there
[06:39] <tritium> console even
[06:41] <MMXGN> hello
[06:42] <pluffsy> hello
[06:43] <indypende> how can i change my freenode irc password?
[06:43] <pluffsy> I'm having some troubles that used to be random (from multiple installations of ubuntu 5.04) but now they've stuck. every time I start gnome I get problems with applets (they won't start) and nautilus won't start. The first error I get is something like couldn't start bonobo-activation server.
[06:44] <pluffsy> any ideas of what I can do?
[06:44] <indypende> how can i change my freenode irc password?
[06:45] <puff> tritium: Well, I can re-rip some of them, but others I loaned the CD to a friend.
[06:45] <nalioth> bob2: is it me or do the bots wait until the channel goes -r to return?
[06:45] <kumakun> Anyone install the breezy update and have it hose their firefox?
[06:45] <fredforfaen> !breezy
[06:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:46] <kumakun> Yes, yes, that's all well and good.
[06:46] <kumakun> I know where to find info on it. I'm looking for whether this is isolated or not
[06:46] <kinhu> anyone here?
[06:47] <kumakun> I am
[06:47] <nalioth> kinhu: no we're all at the zoo
[06:47] <kinhu> do u know that spript that automatically mount NTFS pastitons on ubuntu desktop?
[06:47] <kinhu> where i can find it?
[06:47] <kumakun> Oh, there we go. I was wondering if anyone was actually here to give me a proper answer.
[06:47] <MMXGN> anybody has managed to have 3d acceleration with ati cards in breezy?
[06:47] <ccooke> We need an FAQ, and a link to it in the title...
[06:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kinhu about windowsdrives
[06:48] <kinhu> MMXGN, i want that too!
[06:48] <g|patrick> someone here using kopete?
[06:48] <ccooke> MMXGN: yes.
[06:49] <kinhu> mmxgn, wich VSG u have?
[06:49] <kinhu> vga*
[06:49] <MMXGN> radeon 9600xt
[06:49] <MMXGN> and i have failed to have 3d accell, says that xfree86-dri is not present
[06:50] <ccooke> MMXGN: if you run fglrxinfo, what does it say?
[06:51] <MMXGN> paste here?
[06:51] <nalioth> mxpxpod: not here
[06:51] <nalioth> MMXGN: not here
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MMXGN about paste
[06:51] <MMXGN> w8 a bit then plz :)
[06:51] <MMXGN> yeah i saw it
[06:52] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2638
[06:52] <MMXGN> :)
[06:53] <MMXGN> i have apt-getted the corresponding restricted modules, yet...
[06:53] <ccooke> MMXGN: have you loaded the fglrx module?
[06:54] <ccooke> MMXGN: sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:54] <kinhu> MMXGN, where u downloaded your drivers for radeon9600 series?
[06:54] <ccooke> kinhu: they're in Hoary and Breezy already.
[06:54] <MMXGN> yes
[06:54] <kinhu> already?
[06:54] <kinhu> omg
[06:54] <MMXGN> also i have an nforce2 chipset
[06:54] <kinhu> i didin knwe it!
[06:54] <ccooke> kinhu: ... hell, they were in warty
[06:54] <MMXGN> but when i put what they say apout agpthing
[06:55] <MMXGN> the screen doesnt load at all
[06:55] <MMXGN> :(
[06:55] <ccooke> MMXGN: doesn't load how?
[06:55] <MMXGN> i mean
[06:55] <BusMaster> is there a recommended way to compile a vanilla kernel for Ubuntu..? like make-kpkg is for debian?
[06:55] <MMXGN> it stays blank with a cursor
[06:55] <kinhu> what i have to do to activate my ATI dirver ?
[06:56] <MMXGN> w8 to try sth
[06:57] <mopatop> hey - quickie, is user_xattr available with the kernels in Breezy?
[06:58] <MMXGN> heck
[06:58] <mopatop> of course I'm using ext3
[06:58] <nickrud> mopatop, yes
[06:58] <MMXGN> i was wrong, it worket with internalagppart thingy but still no 3d accell :()
[06:58] <mopatop> nickrud: cheers
[06:59] <nickrud> BusMaster, you make a kernel just like in debian
[06:59] <nalioth> nickrud: wow! you do live b4 noon
[06:59] <nickrud> heh
[06:59] <nickrud> early to rise, late to bed, that's me
[07:00] <BusMaster> nickrud, oh cool
[07:01] <mopatop> nickrud: seems to have remounted fine, cheers
[07:01] <nickrud> mopatop, np
[07:01] <mopatop> I recommend everyone gives beagle a spin :)
[07:01] <mopatop> it's, well, very impressive
[07:04] <MMXGN> oh :(
[07:04] <MMXGN> any other ideas?
[07:07] <ryufreak> how do i find out my kernel version?
[07:07] <ryufreak> should be 5.04 right?
[07:07] <kennethlove> uname -a, i think
[07:08] <kinhu> does anyone here knows why i have to go "pppoeconf" every time i start ubuntu???
[07:10] <bud_> hello
[07:11] <bud_> need help ove configuring procmail
[07:11] <bud_> im using ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[07:12] <bud_> can anyone help
[07:12] <ThJ> hi! i'm migrating web/mail users over from a debian server to an ubuntu server. i'm using qmail/vpopmail on the debian box, but i dislike it because its inconvenient to set up and you have to compile it, etc... what mail system do you people recommend for web/mail hosting combos?
[07:12] <bud_> ok i see
[07:13] <ThJ> i would like to keep the ability for my customers to administer their e-mail domains.
[07:14] <bud_> i have configured procmail, but it doesnt deliver mail where i have configured, and in /var/mail.log is a lot of shit things what i havent configured
[07:15] <BiSK-8> hello
[07:15] <bud_> anyone know a good howto
[07:15] <BiSK-8> who helped me today with the bluetooth?
[07:15] <bud_> i have googled but havent found anything usefull
[07:15] <putz_kinhu> does any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?
[07:15] <kumakun> Wow..Breezy is not playing nice with firefox...
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } failed opcode was: unknown hda: ATAPI reset complete end_request: I/O error dev hda, sector 0 Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> what the hell?
[07:16] <ompaul> bud_ http://www.xs4all.nl/~sister/mirror/procmail/
[07:16] <thundrcleeze> you're a few seconds late, ompaul
[07:17] <BiSK-8> i damn tried 2 update 2 breezy and ****ed up my system, i just formatted
[07:17] <BiSK-8> im on hoary
[07:17] <ompaul> thundrcleeze, if only people waited 10/15 minutes
[07:17] <BiSK-8> and downloading breezy
[07:17] <ompaul> ahh well
[07:17] <putz_kinhu> does any1 knows why i have to type "pppoeconf" every time i lo into ubuntu?
[07:17] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: looks like bad disk, bad cable, or bad ide port :P
[07:17] <BiSK-8> putz_kinhu, no
[07:17] <putz_kinhu> T_T
[07:17] <kumakun> So far the only thing breezy has done to my system is not let me use firefox
[07:17] <ompaul> putz_kinhu, have a look at system administration networking and set your options from there
[07:17] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: i've had lots of problems with crappy cables that cause i/o errors like that
[07:19] <MMXGN> anybody has managed to have ati opengl acceleration with breezy and is able to help me?
[07:19] <ompaul> ThJ, I like postfix for mail, after that its up to you how you want to read it or pop it
[07:19] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what's the problem?
[07:19] <DrTiger> breezy kills my windows boot entries every time it has to upgrade the kernel -.-
[07:19] <ompaul> MMXGN, no idea have you looked at the wiki page for ati?
[07:19] <nalioth> DrTiger: if you know it happens, back up your menu.lst b4 upgrading
[07:20] <dpro\> DrTiger, slap it till it stops
[07:20] <MMXGN> it says that xfree86-dri is missing on display 0:0
[07:20] <MMXGN> ompaul, yes i did
[07:20] <MMXGN> no luck :(
[07:20] <DrTiger> same problem here with ati card
[07:20] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what have you done so far? what all have you installed and configured?
[07:20] <MMXGN> xorg-driver-fglrx and restricted modules
[07:20] <ompaul> MMXGN, that is all I have to offer, from that I take it you tried the troubleshooting methods named onthat page?
[07:20] <MMXGN> for my kernel
[07:21] <dpro\> MMXGN, did you comment the dri parts in xorg.conf?
[07:21] <Quinthius> MMXGN: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for DRI errors for more information as to why it's not loading
[07:21] <lsuactiafner> Quinthius : cant be cable, its brand new asus cable and it worked before on a cdrom
[07:21] <FR500> hello
[07:21] <MMXGN> ompaul, read the whole of the binary ati drivers on wiki
[07:21] <lsuactiafner> but will replace cable to be usre
[07:21] <MMXGN> Quinthius, done that too, wait
[07:21] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: brand new doesnt mean it's not defective
[07:21] <MMXGN> to c
[07:21] <DrTiger> which wiki page?
[07:21] <Quinthius> lsuactiafner: but it could be disk or ide controller too
[07:21] <FR500> i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me
[07:21] <basti> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:21] <basti> kernel? What should I respond to this?? (Hoary)
[07:22] <insites> is there a comparison page for fedora core and ubuntu anywhere? that lists differences like apt vs yum, etc?
[07:22] <FR500> basti: uname -a
[07:22] <obontu> i have no audio in my ubuntu, can some please help?
[07:22] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2639
[07:22] <shadeofgrey> guys whats the package i have to install to get totem to play DVD's?
[07:22] <DrTiger> breezy really sucks
[07:22] <DrTiger> -.-
[07:22] <GNULinuxer> shadeofgrey: libdvddcss
[07:22] <GNULinuxer> DrTiger: why?
[07:22] <FR500> MMXGN: libdvddcss
[07:23] <basti> FR500, uname -a tells me the C header?
[07:23] <MMXGN> FR500, eh?
[07:23] <Quinthius> MMXGN: do an lsmod | grep fglrx, it list anything?
[07:23] <MMXGN> yep
[07:23] <DrTiger> because my battery isn't supported (I run out of power regularly because of that), I have worked for hours on the dri problem but not gotten anywhere...
[07:23] <inc|freaky> nalioth: well, it just doesnt want to work either it identifies to late or whatever i always join the other channel
[07:24] <DrTiger> and whenever it installs a new kernel it deletes my windows entry in the menu.lst
[07:24] <nalioth> inc|freaky: use hte "server password" field
[07:24] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and you're sure you installed the restricted modules of the same version as your kernel?
[07:24] <FR500> basti: uname -a outputs something like this Linux mobile3 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:24] <MMXGN> yep :)
[07:25] <FR500> this is what u need  2.6.10-5-386
[07:25] <MMXGN> i tried to reinstall it just to be sure and it says its the latest version
[07:25] <Quinthius> MMXGN: dmesg | grep fglrx, anything there that looks like an error?
[07:25] <FR500> i followed the wiki on how to software midi playback, but it won't work can you help me
[07:25] <KasperTech> Hi. I've got an offer for a Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo V2020 for only 1K $. But will the Intel 855GME graphics card do?
[07:25] <MMXGN> hmm, not
[07:26] <basti> FR500, yeah but I dont understand how that is supposed to help me, I need to point out where my C header is located in the file architecture...
[07:26] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2640
[07:26] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and have you rebooted?
[07:26] <insites> how does ubuntu handle proprietary thing like codecs and drivers? is there an addon repository for apt or somesuch?
[07:26] <MMXGN> Quinthius, plenty of times
[07:26] <MMXGN> :/
[07:27] <Quinthius> MMXGN: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:27] <MMXGN> sure
[07:27] <nalioth> insites: there are repos for most anything you want to do
[07:27] <inc|freaky> is there any way to theme kopete?
[07:28] <MMXGN> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2641
[07:28] <MMXGN> :)
[07:28] <Hendric> how do i upgrade my GTK2 to a higher version??
[07:28] <insites> nalioth, anyone maintaing a list of these repos... need to find a few drivers like my wifi and my pwc and others before i switch over from fc
[07:28] <nalioth> insites: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:29] <nalioth> insites: if it works on fc, it'll work here
[07:29] <insites> nalioth, does ubuntu use rpms?
[07:29] <shadeofgrey> okay look it telld me theres no installation candidate for libdvdcss -- what do i need to add  to my sources.list filke if im already running breezy?
[07:29] <nalioth> insites: it CAN, but ubuntu debs are recommended
[07:30] <Quinthius> MMXGN: hmm, looks fine except for GLcore, you dont have to load it as DRI should automatically include it
[07:30] <Quinthius> MMXGN: and i'm not sure what i2c is... i don't have that in mine
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> guys
[07:31] <insites> nalioth, thanks... im just trying to get my feet wet in ubuntu a little..
[07:31] <MMXGN> shall that be the problem? let me check it :)
[07:31] <insites> will download tonight then...
[07:31] <nalioth> insites: linux is linux
[07:31] <goofytj> Here a kde user, I got this annoying problem. The mouseover-effect if the links in my main panel is completely black, I can send you a screenshot if you wish, I've been trying to change all color settings with no result. Anyone got a suggestion ?
[07:31] <insites> breezy decently stable?
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> ....im sick and all i want to do is watch a DVD
[07:31] <shadeofgrey> insites:  yes!
[07:31] <nalioth> insites: ubuntu is debian based
[07:31] <Quinthius> MMXGN: i dont think it's the problem but who knows... the only suspicious thing i'm seeing so far is in the DRI warnings where it says unknown third-party board...
[07:32] <MMXGN> :(
[07:32] <MMXGN> though, it worked fine with sarge
[07:32] <shadeofgrey> whats the name of the repo that contains libdvdcss in breezy??
[07:32] <MMXGN> anyway, let me try removing those
[07:32] <frenkel> i have a problem with my keyboard layout
[07:32] <WildSurge> i just installed ubuntu and i have a problem with my floppy-disc
[07:32] <frenkel> in gentoo linux it is working the way i want it, but ubuntu works different with the same settings in xorg.conf
[07:32] <WildSurge> it just won't mount
[07:33] <DrTiger> should DRI work for an ATI card, if you installed the binary driver from aptitude?
[07:33] <Quinthius> DrTiger: mine does..
[07:33] <DrTiger> yeah
[07:33] <frenkel> us_intl doesn't allow me to type <`>+<e> en produce an e with ` on top of it
[07:33] <frenkel> how can i achieve that? i couldn't find it on the forum
[07:33] <DrTiger> but I invested hours
[07:33] <DrTiger> and it's really frustrating me
[07:34] <WildSurge> it says
[07:34] <bpf> hello all
[07:34] <MMXGN> bah, wansnt that
[07:34] <zAo^> how can I go back to ubuntu "server" or minimal???
[07:34] <WildSurge> mount, special device /dev/fd0 doesn't exist
[07:34] <Pluk> frenkel, running breezy?
[07:34] <frenkel> jep
[07:34] <bpf> anyone know if the Eclipse IDE works with Hoary on amd64?
[07:34] <Pluk> check this jut posted this :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70297
[07:34] <shedi> zAo^: debfoster
[07:34] <Quinthius> MMXGN: you could try a "sudo depmod -ae" and then rebooting
[07:34] <Pluk> us_intl doesnt exist nomore
[07:34] <zAo^> shedi, no other way?
[07:34] <Pluk> its a variant in the us keymap now
[07:34] <MMXGN> what does it do?
[07:34] <MMXGN> (just to know, done it)
[07:35] <Quinthius> DrTiger: post your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the output of "lsmod | grep fglrx", and "dmesg | grep fglrx" to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:35] <Quinthius> MMXGN: rebuilds module dependency cache or something..
[07:35] <frenkel> Pluk, thanks, i didn' t search enough i guess :)
[07:35] <Quinthius> MMXGN: what board do you have? 9600xt?
[07:35] <Pluk> took me 4 hours to find out myself yesterday frenkel
[07:35] <frenkel> this is much more the way it should be :p
[07:35] <frenkel> lol
[07:35] <frenkel> thanks for sharing :)
[07:36] <Pluk> yw :)
[07:36] <shedi> zAo^: you could do an apt-get remove --purge the things you don't want
[07:36] <MMXGN> Quinthius, yes
[07:36] <frenkel> gonna try it right away
[07:36] <frenkel> bye
[07:36] <WildSurge> how come ubunthu didn't create dev/fd0 for me?
[07:36] <MMXGN> shall i reboot now?
[07:36] <WildSurge> and how do i create it?
[07:36] <shedi> zAo^, it's safer to use debfoster
[07:36] <XHK> how can i swich from gnome to fluxbox?
[07:36] <nightair> Breezy install asked me if my system clock was UTC. I think I answered that incorrectly because when I boot to win2K partition the time is hours off. how to change that now that breezy is installed?
[07:37] <XHK> how can i switch from gnome to fluxbox?
[07:37] <Hendric> networking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?
[07:37] <BiSK-8> hi
[07:37] <zAo^> shedi, I know. Thnx. I thought of something like 'apt-get install ubuntu-minimal'
[07:37] <WildSurge> doh!
[07:37] <MMXGN> rebooting
[07:37] <WildSurge> why does ubuntu not automatically load the floppy module?!
[07:37] <nalioth> XHK: install fluxbox and choose it at your next login from "sessions"
[07:37] <XHK> ok ty
[07:37] <BiSK-8> how can i download k3b?
[07:38] <shedi> BiSK-8,  apt-get install k3b
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> zAo:  the painful way would be rebooting into an install CD and typing ...i think ubuntu-minimal at the boot prompt for the install CD...  but you'd loose all your crap
[07:38] <BiSK-8> it wont work
[07:38] <BiSK-8> im on the first version of hoary
[07:38] <BiSK-8> shedi
[07:38] <BiSK-8> says that iws impossibile 2 find
[07:38] <shedi> BiSK-8,  you have to edit /etc/apt/source.list
[07:38] <shadeofgrey> bisk:  upgrade dude...  soon...  now...  faster...  yesterday
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i know
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i had 2 format
[07:39] <BiSK-8> 2day
[07:39] <mellon> So I just did the install with the colony 5 CD.   It went well, but there was a period in the middle where the screen just went black and I thought it'd died.   A few minutes later it came back with an ongoing install.   Has anyone else seen this?
[07:39] <shedi> BiSK-8, comment out the universe repositories
[07:39] <BiSK-8> im downloading breezer
[07:39] <BiSK-8> but im not gonna be able 2 do anything with the iso file without k3b
[07:39] <shadeofgrey> bisk:  breezY
[07:39] <BiSK-8> i try 2 upgrade
[07:40] <BiSK-8> but it says that there is nothing 2 install
[07:40] <Hendric> networking problem here... i installed 2 ubuntu units... but i can't share files.. it asks for "You must login to access MABAN".. i didn't set any passwords for my sharing... how can i fix this?
[07:40] <BiSK-8> and i tru 2 update an it says the same
[07:40] <Arkainium> what is need to play mpc files?
[07:40] <Quinthius> DrTiger: first thing i notice is that you have compositing enabled. that automatically turns 3d accel off
[07:40] <FR500> Arkainium: libmuse i think or musepack
[07:41] <DrTiger> oh
[07:41] <DrTiger> I think I added it after having the problems ... but I'll turn it off now
[07:42] <Quinthius> DrTiger:  "Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering"
[07:42] <DrTiger> hmm I think I will restart now.... wait a moment
[07:44] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[07:44] <WildSurge> okay, seems the floppy thing was easy after all :)
[07:44] <WildSurge> just make sure it loads the damn floppy modules after booting
[07:45] <WildSurge> now for the soundcard :(
[07:45] <WildSurge> anyone here that can (will) help me get my isa soundcard to work?
[07:45] <WildSurge> soundblaster awe 32
[07:46] <ndlovu> on hoary, is there some way to upgrade samba to version 3.14 without changing any other packages?
[07:46] <foodcoman> Anyone know what the final Kernel version will be in Breezy final?
[07:46] <DrTiger> tadaa it works ^ ^
[07:47] <absenth> is there a secret to installing / configuring kismet in Hoary, with an intel extreme wireless B/G card?
[07:47] <Quinthius> DrTiger: :D
[07:47] <absenth> or a how-to would even be better :)
[07:47] <WildSurge> hmmm, should pnpdump be installed on ubuntu as standard?
[07:49] <NightLord> Does anyone know if i can apt-get breezy?
[07:49] <nalioth> NightLord: yes, see the /topic
[07:49] <Strog> !breezy
[07:49] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:49] <NightLord> I see
[07:50] <WildSurge> anyone here at all to help? :(
[07:50] <[LethAL] > No, of course not :D
[07:50] <NightLord> Wunderbar!
[07:50] <[LethAL] > ?
[07:51] <NightLord> maybe this will fix my problems
[07:51] <WildSurge> how do i configure isa cards under hoary?
[07:51] <[LethAL] > With what?
[07:51] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, no idea :(
[07:51] <WildSurge> more specifically my awe 32 soundblaster
[07:51] <NightLord> mainly keyboard and mouse
[07:51] <{X}> hi
[07:51] <ndlovu> can I change my sources.list to include debian repositories and then do an upgrade of just one package somehow?
[07:51] <WildSurge> the sound is working only if i manually load all my soundmodules
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:51] <DrTiger> so now about the acpi
[07:51] <Tomcat_> WildSurge: Put those modules in /etc/modules
[07:51] <[LethAL] > Yes, but it's not recommended and neither us or debian will help ;)
[07:51] <NightLord> LethAL, what do you have in ISA
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:51] <{X}> anyone got some good programs i should install on ubuntu?
[07:52] <DrTiger> should the battery be recognized at all?
[07:52] <NightLord> no wait, i mean WildSurge
[07:52] <[LethAL] > I don't have any ISA sockets or cards
[07:52] <ndlovu> or can I download just the samba 3.14 debs and dpkg -i it?
[07:52] <hunger> How do I get my box (breezy) to resume instead of doing the normal startup?
[07:52] <NightLord> wrong person, sorry
[07:52] <Strog> {X}: IRC manners app would be nice
[07:52] <willvarfar> on hoary, I am trying to mount my ntfs partition; I can mount it and root can look around it, but my normal login gets 'access denied'.  Where might I be going wrong?
[07:52] <shedi> ndlovu, that you can do
[07:52] <NightLord> erm, i might have an idea willavafat
[07:52] <DrTiger> It's a bit frustrating to work with a laptop that doesnt tell you how much power the battery still has
[07:52] <NightLord> did you use sudo?
[07:52] <ndlovu> shedi: that being update repositories or download the debs?
[07:53] <absenth> !ntfs
[07:53] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab .   Seems silly
[07:53] <[LethAL] > absenth, /msg ubotu <topic>
[07:54] <shedi> ndlovu, you can update rep and get the package with apt-get --download samba
[07:54] <absenth> LethAL, Danke
[07:54] <g|patrick> {X}: opera, install opera
[07:54] <willvarfar> aha, NightLord, if I omit the sudo then I can browse it; (the script on the wiki didn't work for me, couldn't find hda1 for some reason)
[07:55] <NightLord> odd
[07:55] <NightLord> hmm, well, at least it works :)
[07:55] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks! might that cause conflicts with other packages?
[07:55] <Hendric> how can i install fonts on breezy???
[07:55] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, try sda
[07:55] <[LethAL] > 1
[07:55] <[LethAL] > Hendric, search synaptic for fonts
[07:55] <[LethAL] > !tell Hendric about fonts
[07:55] <Quinthius> bluefoxicy: of course you have to unmount it first
[07:55] <shedi> ndlovu, sorry, it's done with apt-get install --download-only package
[07:55] <absenth> Uboto is amazing!
[07:56] <absenth> Ubotu even.
[07:56] <nalioth> NightLord: refrain from advice such as that, please
[07:56] <ubotu> I don't know, absenth
[07:56] <absenth> sorry.
[07:56] <WildSurge> lethal, sda?
[07:56] <NightLord> what typing shred?
[07:56] <Quinthius> bluefoxicy: if you just pull it out, the OS has no chance to unmount and make sure everything is properly written...
[07:56] <shedi> ndlovu, yes it can cause dependency problems
[07:56] <nalioth> NightLord: yes. we have very new to *nix user who will do it
[07:56] <willvarfar> hmm, now Kino claims invalid formats all the time; from one problem to the next.. argh
[07:56] <shedi> ndlovu, if there are you can use apt-get -f install afterwards
[07:56] <NightLord> ooh, damn
[07:57] <NightLord> wouldn't work anyway, didn't tell him to sudo
[07:57] <[LethAL] > WildSurge, if you don't have hda1 I'd assume you have a SCSI hard drive
[07:57] <WildSurge> ehh
[07:57] <nalioth> NightLord: you ever hear 'knows enough to be dangerous'  ? dont give any weapons away
[07:57] <WildSurge> ur mistaking me for someone else
[07:57] <WildSurge> i wanna get my soundcard working
[07:57] <[LethAL] > Ah
[07:57] <[LethAL] > lol
[07:57] <[LethAL] > Lack of coffee
[07:57] <NightLord> how do I get xvidtune to keep my settings? I know theres a website somewhere, but dunno where
[07:58] <XHK> Can i update gaim in terminal? If yes, then how?
[07:58] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks! any idea where the breezy versions can be found? I'd rather upgrade from breezy rather than from debian direct if the version's right...
[07:58] <NightLord> XHK
[07:58] <[LethAL] > sudo apt-get upgrade gaim
[07:58] <WildSurge> my soundcard only works after manually adding all the modules and then starting esd
[07:58] <XHK> NightLord ?
[07:58] <[LethAL] > Assuming there is one, of course
[07:58] <NightLord> yes, go to terminal, sudo then run apt-get install Gaim
[07:58] <WildSurge> if i try to add them at boottime ubuntu hangs
[07:58] <ndlovu> shedi: just checked... seems to be the right version
[07:58] <XHK> NightLord ty
[07:58] <NightLord> it will put new one in
[07:58] <NightLord> however
[07:58] <shedi> ndlovu, I understand that there are breezy instructions in topic
[07:59] <NightLord> the version on apt is a bit outdated, i'd reccomend you to the gaime website (http://gaim.sourceforge.net) and download the installer, then just sh it
[07:59] <ndlovu> shedi: thanks for the help!
[08:00] <WildSurge> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+64+Value.&chip=sb16%2C+emu8000&module=sbawe
[08:00] <evian> how can I automatically msg NickServ with my ID when X-Chat starts up?
[08:01] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[08:01] <nalioth> evian: what client do you use?
[08:01] <NightLord> so does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how
[08:01] <havoc> evian: in the config for a server/network, 'command' or something
[08:01] <evian> nalioth: X-Chat
[08:01] <nalioth> FR500: why would you? you forced it into a situation of breakage
[08:01] <havoc> nalioth: he said "when X-Chat starts up" :)
[08:02] <nalioth> evian: in the server dialog, click 'freenode' and to the right "edit" in the 'server password' box, put your pass
[08:02] <nalioth> havoc: i'm drunk
[08:02] <havoc> nalioth: good man :)
[08:02] <NightLord> ok, now I gotta find a good sequencer for linux (since cubase SX3 doesn't run that good with wine)
[08:02] <evian> oh ok thanks
[08:02] <xiaogil> is there an alternative to Google Earth on Linux ? WW2D ?
[08:02] <absenth> nalioth, Drunk is awesome.
[08:02] <absenth> nalioth, if I could be I'd be drunk at work.
[08:02] <rikva> I installed VMWare Workstation on my Hoary system, but I need to be root to start it. Any suggestions?
[08:02] <NightLord> xiaogil: run it with wine
[08:02] <NightLord> it runs pretty wekk
[08:03] <nalioth> absenth: koolaid
[08:03] <xiaogil> how to add WW2D in the source list ?
[08:03] <NightLord> rikva, sudo
[08:03] <rikva> NightLord: except from sudoing or suing
[08:03] <absenth> nalioth, I'm more of a Coffee & Jolt kinda guy, but Koolaid has it's place.
[08:03] <BiSK-8> do u ppl know any good programs 2 burn iso files 2 cd?
[08:03] <NightLord> use "run as a different user"
[08:03] <NightLord> BisK
[08:03] <NightLord> XCDRoast
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i still need help... i scoured the forums and found nothing helpful...  what do i need to add to my sources.list file to install libdvdcss on breezy???
[08:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about restricted
[08:04] <NightLord> shadeofgray
[08:04] <rikva> NightLord: okay, the thing is that on my other hoary system, I don't have to be root.
[08:04] <NightLord> use sudo gedit, go to /etc/apt/sources.list add the lines save and run apt-get update
[08:04] <NightLord> did you install it as root?
[08:04] <xiaogil> NightLord: Google Earth doesn't work on my computer with wine
[08:04] <BiSK-8> my apt-get cant find anything
[08:04] <BiSK-8> no programs
[08:04] <BiSK-8> no nuttin
[08:04] <rikva> NightLord: yes, you have to be root to install
[08:05] <BiSK-8> i need help
[08:05] <BiSK-8> what should i do?
[08:05] <NightLord> BiSK-8 did you try apt-get update?
[08:05] <xiaogil> NightLord: how did you make it work ?
[08:05] <ndlovu> if I want to upgrade just one package, will apt-get upgrade <package> work
[08:05] <ndlovu> ?
[08:06] <evian> yeah I'd be interested in google earth too. I'll try it in crossover office v5 beta 2...
[08:06] <BiSK-8> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto <---- reading of the packages.... done
[08:06] <NightLord> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3254 for help xiaogil
[08:06] <BiSK-8> thats what happenes when i update
[08:06] <evian> NightLord: so you already got Google Earth working in wine, right?
[08:06] <NightLord> did you try apt-cache search to find your program
[08:06] <NightLord> I did on debian native
[08:06] <BiSK-8> i know what program i need
[08:06] <evian> ok thanks
[08:07] <NightLord> on the link, read the bit in green
[08:07] <NightLord> that helps
[08:07] <BiSK-8> u talkin 2 me?
[08:07] <NightLord> no, to evian
[08:07] <BiSK-8> oh
[08:07] <gerarcone> hello!
[08:07] <BiSK-8> so, what can i do?
[08:08] <NightLord> and when you try to apt-get it?
[08:08] <gerarcone> how can i read the windows partition from Ubuntu?
[08:08] <BiSK-8> nightlord, it says that it cant find it
[08:08] <NightLord> thats ironic, ask wilvafar
[08:08] <NightLord> he did it a bit ago :P
[08:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gerarcone about windowsdrives
[08:08] <BurgerMann> does openssh-server change the RSA key by it self??
[08:08] <NightLord> whats the program?
[08:08] <nalioth> BurgerMann: no
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guys -- the restricted list thing through "tell <whoever> about restricted" leads to instructions that install libdvdcss2 -- which ISNT THE SAME as libdvdcss in breezy right??
[08:09] <gerarcone> nalioth: thanks!
[08:09] <shadeofgrey> because i installed libdvdcss2 and it crashed
[08:09] <BurgerMann> nalioth: suddenly I just couldn't connect to it
[08:09] <BiSK-8> nightlord, who must i ask?
[08:09] <shadeofgrey> this is frusstrating
[08:10] <NightLord> well, first, what exactly did you run?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> who?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> me?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> sau my name
[08:10] <FR500> when i install a package with force depends, it appears as broken in synaptic, anyway to override that?
[08:10] <BiSK-8> so i get highlite
[08:10] <NightLord> BiSK-8 what program are you trying to apt-get
[08:10] <BiSK-8> k3b
[08:10] <FR500> nalioth:openttd wont compile and the deb i have requires a newer libc something
[08:11] <FR500> nalioth: but it works just fine with forcing depends
[08:11] <BiSK-8> nightlord: k3b
[08:11] <NightLord> so does anyone know how to get xvidtune to save my settings, I've done it before, but i can't remember how
[08:11] <NightLord> odd
[08:11] <NightLord> do you have the debian repositories?
[08:12] <nalioth> FR500: open what?
[08:12] <WildSurge> avond Ycros
[08:12] <WildSurge> yvonne
[08:12] <FR500> open transport tycoon deluxe
[08:12] <shadeofgrey> if any body would take 2 minutes and help me...  id appreciate it...  im lost
[08:13] <gerarcone> nalioth: there is a way to hide windows partition instead?
[08:13] <WildSurge> lost where shadeofgrey :)
[08:13] <ndlovu> could upgrading libc to the breezy version on a hoary machine cause issues?
[08:13] <nalioth> gerarcone: dont mount them
[08:13] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes. you'll break your hoary
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> WildSurge:  im on breezy...  and i tried installing libdvdcss2 to get DVD playback in totem and that doessnt work.  what do i have to do to my sources.list file to get the GOOD libdvdcss for breezy??
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> because libdvdcss2 crashes the system
[08:14] <WildSurge> fraid that's too advanced for me shade
[08:14] <FR500> nalioth: that is the lib i need
[08:14] <ndlovu> nalioth: that serious?
[08:14] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: build the libdvdcss2 from source
[08:14] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> nal:  you've got to be kiddding right?
[08:14] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: apt-get will do it for you
[08:14] <Pluk> you could try the one in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples theres a script that downloads/installs libdvdcss2
[08:15] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: Pluk has an alternate suggestion
[08:15] <shadeofgrey> guys your not listening.  libdvdcss2 BREAKS BREEZY...
[08:15] <gerarcone> nalioth: i've used the script and it mount win partition every time
[08:15] <nalioth> Pluk: please preface your texts to those you mean it for
[08:15] <gerarcone> nalioth: can i undo this script?
[08:15] <BiSK-8> so can any1 help me?????
[08:15] <nalioth> gerarcone: the partition is mounted in /media, correct?
[08:15] <ndlovu> nalioth: I need to upgrade samba and that requires upgrading libc... so you're saying there's no way to upgrade samba without upgrading everything to breezy?
[08:16] <nalioth> ndlovu: if you upgrade your libc, you'll be breaking hoary
[08:16] <Pluk> if the conversation is about 1 thing i see no need to preface
[08:16] <shadeofgrey> theres a NEW one JUST called libdvdcss -- all i need is the informatiomn on where to get it!
[08:16] <runeh> Where do I request packages and such? Malone?
[08:16] <kemik> shadeofgrey:  universe possibly
[08:16] <ndlovu> nalioth: so instability, crashes, the end of the world as we know it?
[08:16] <shadeofgrey> kemik:  wouldnt happen to know the address would you?
[08:16] <evian> BiSK-8, what was your trouble? apt-get not finding stuff?
[08:17] <nalioth> ndlovu: yes
[08:17] <kemik> shadeofgrey:  it's in you rsources.list most likely.. you have to enable them
[08:17] <kemik> !repositories
[08:17] <BiSK-8> evian, yes
[08:17] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[08:17] <nalioth> ndlovu: and the mother-in-law coming for a visit
[08:17] <ryufreak> i need help[
[08:17] <ryufreak> this error when i start up ubuntu
[08:17] <nalioth> ryufreak: a question would be nice
[08:17] <evian> BiSK-8, maybe your repository server list got borked
[08:17] <puff> How do I see what apt source a given pacakge came from?
[08:17] <ryufreak> lol i'm getting there :D
[08:17] <ndlovu> nalioth: don't want that!
[08:17] <ryufreak> "Error activating XKB configuration.
[08:17] <ryufreak> It can happen under various circumstances:
[08:17] <ryufreak> - a bug in libxklavier library
[08:17] <ryufreak> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[08:17] <ryufreak> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[08:17] <ryufreak> X server version data:
[08:17] <ryufreak> The X.Org Foundation
[08:18] <ryufreak> 60802000
[08:18] <ryufreak> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[08:18] <gerarcone> nalioth: yes
[08:18] <ryufreak> - The result of <b>xprop -root | grep XKB</b>
[08:18] <ryufreak> - The result of <b>gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd</b>"
[08:18] <evian> BiSK-8, can you check it in synaptic to see the list?
[08:18] <WildSurge> how do i change the standard refresh rate in unbuntu
[08:18] <ndlovu> nalioth: so breezy it is then.
[08:18] <BiSK-8> evian, if u guide me through it yes
[08:18] <nalioth> ryufreak: dont paste in here
[08:18] <WildSurge> the one that the login screen uses
[08:18] <BiSK-8> evian, may i pm?
[08:18] <ryufreak> well, that's my problem...how do i fix it?
[08:18] <Buddha|> What's the root password for  the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)
[08:18] <evian> BiSK-8 sure
[08:18] <nalioth> ryufreak: pasting if very rude (and against channel rules)
[08:18] <puff> Hm, is launchpad.net the right place to file a bug on a package in ubuntu?
[08:19] <ryufreak> sorry, but now that it's out there
[08:19] <ryufreak> how do i fix it =/
[08:19] <puff> I could have sworn there was a bugzilla somewhere else.
[08:19] <nalioth> ryufreak: hoary or breezy?
[08:19] <ryufreak> hoary
[08:19] <nalioth> ryufreak: i have no clue
[08:19] <ryufreak> i finally got my x800xl to work, and now i get this message......
[08:20] <ryufreak> i get something t work, and something else messes up =/
[08:20] <nalioth> ryufreak: i'm not the only one in here
[08:20] <puff> Ah, bugzilla.ubuntu.com... but then why does ubuntu.com's "bugfixing" link take you to launchpad.net?
[08:20] <nalioth> ryufreak: paste your output to a pastebin so you can show folks
[08:21] <puff> Does bugzilla.ubuntu.com's search function search across all packages?
[08:21] <gerarcone> nalioth: uh?
[08:21] <puff> Er, all "products"
[08:22] <Bartimaeus> does anyonw know how to install deian files?
[08:22] <nalioth> gerarcone: the partition mounte in /media, correct?
[08:22] <havoc> dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:22] <gerarcone> nalioth: yes
[08:22] <Bartimaeus> havoc, thanks
[08:22] <nalioth> Bartimaeus: careful using debian debs
[08:22] <nalioth> gerarcone: so how are they "in the way"?
[08:22] <gerarcone> nalioth: do you want the path?
[08:23] <havoc> Bartimaeus: you should use apt to install an ubuntu package rather than a .deb, if one is available
[08:23] <nalioth> gerarcone: i helped write the script. it shouldn't mount where is it visible to you
[08:23] <WildSurge> how do i add modules to auto-load in ubuntu?
[08:23] <kemik> modprobe possibly
[08:23] <kemik> not sure
[08:24] <puff> Hm... looks like there's a bug report about ntop already, and it has the bugfix, too.
[08:24] <havoc> modules.conf
[08:24] <havoc> in /etc/
[08:24] <gerarcone> nalioth: i simple want to know how to undo the script effects
[08:24] <WildSurge> more speficially these:  modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[08:24] <puff> Is there a way to have "aptitude install package" query for known bugs with a package and report them when it installs?
[08:24] <WildSurge> when i add them to /etc/modules.conf the system hangs during boot
[08:24] <WildSurge> i guess when trying to play the startup sound
[08:24] <havoc> WildSurge: /etc/modules
[08:24] <Bowel> I have my /boot as ext3 and / as jfs. When booting breezy kernel 2.6.12 I get 'JFS NO SUCH MODULE' -- but 2.6.10 works. Have jfs been purged?
[08:25] <xiaogil> is there an address for earth3d to put in sources.list ?
[08:25] <dmacdonald111> Hi all. I have managed to get ubuntu working. Before anyone gets excited, I had to revert back to wired network connection. I was wondering, I have been using putty before, but it doesn't seem to be in synaptic. Is there another name for it?
[08:25] <Answer> What is the program that actually synchronizes the clock with ntp servers?
[08:25] <Ninjew> Answer: ntpdate
[08:25] <Buddha|> What's the root password for the 5.10 preview?  (PPC)
[08:25] <havoc> Bowel: you may need an initrd to load the module, or build a kernel w/ the JFS module compiled in
[08:25] <Answer> dmacdonald11: putty is an ssh client, ssh is builtin to linux.  man ssh
[08:26] <WildSurge> havoc: when i add those modules to my startup, ubunti stops loading when the banner starts showing
[08:26] <jroes> Answer: it's a daemon - ntpd
[08:26] <dmacdonald111> ah. thank you.
[08:26] <Bowel> havoc, Yes I recompiled and cooked my own and it worked. But I like to use ubuntu's pre-compiled images.
[08:26] <gerarcone> nalioth: help me please :(
[08:26] <Answer> Ninjew, jroes: Do you know if ntpdate is available for other linux distros (ex. redhat, gentoo)
[08:27] <havoc> Bowel: it probably is build as a kernel module, so you need a ram disk (initrd) to load the module during boot
[08:27] <jroes> Answer: it is
[08:27] <havoc> WildSurge: sorry, don't know what to tell you :(
[08:27] <jroes> Answer: it's a pretty standard thing.  most distributions have it
[08:27] <WildSurge> tell me how to fix it :P
[08:27] <n00bster> i installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...
[08:27] <havoc> WildSurge: would if I could
[08:27] <WildSurge> i know bro
[08:28] <Answer> jroes: Does ntpd allow Time Zone selection?
[08:28] <havoc> WildSurge: you had asked how to load modules at boot, *that* I knew how to do ;)
[08:29] <WildSurge> thought i might b doing something wrong
[08:29] <jroes> here's your best bet:  http://www.ntp.org/     http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Support/SettingYourSystemTimeZone
[08:30] <inc|freaky> when ubuntu boots up, it always misses the ntp update because of a temporary dns failure which is probably caused because the pon script (pppoe dialin) gets executed after the ntp update is there any way i can put it so the connections gets established before the ntp update?
[08:30] <Answer> jroes: How do I give ntpdate the server?  It says no servers to use
[08:30] <Bowel> havoc, Hm, you're maybe right. Any idea how I can get that? I thought debian images were built by using initrd.
[08:31] <BiSK-8> guys, how do i save with vim?
[08:31] <havoc> Bowel: nope, no idea :(
[08:31] <Answer> BiSK-8: :wq
[08:31] <BiSK-8> :wq
[08:31] <BiSK-8> ???
[08:31] <WildSurge> what is /etc/modutils used for?
[08:31] <BiSK-8> and how
[08:31] <BiSK-8> just write it?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> answer, how do i activate :wq?
[08:32] <Answer> BiSK-8: In vim, you get to "COMMAND" mode by pressing escape atleast twice.  In command mode,  :q will quit,  :w will save,  :wq will save and quit
[08:32] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:32] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:33] <n00bster> hello - i'v installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...
[08:33] <Answer> BiSK-8:  You should look into the following more friendly editors:  Pico, Nano, Emacs, Nedit, Gedit
[08:33] <Billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?
[08:33] <WildSurge> agh :(
[08:33] <BiSK-8> i like terminal thourh
[08:33] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:33] <HiddenWolf> Anyone here familiar with lirc?
[08:33] <WildSurge> why can i load these modules perfectly after i've booted
[08:33] <Answer> BiSK-8:  Nano, Pico and Emacs all run in terminal mode like VI.
[08:34] <WildSurge> but ubuntu hangs when i load it during boot
[08:34] <WildSurge>  modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[08:34] <BiSK-8> ok
[08:34] <BiSK-8> thx
[08:34] <xiaogil> Can I install breezy, or shall i want until 13th of ocotber ?
[08:34] <xiaogil> s/want/wait
[08:34] <HiddenWolf> xiaogil, you can install, but you'll have a lot of updates each day.
[08:34] <Answer> WildSurge: modprobes can take a long time I think, which could hang the initial boot
[08:34] <WildSurge> Answer: it's not hanging during boot, it hangs in the login screen when it's loading the banner
[08:35] <eipa> hey. i'm a linux noobie.
[08:35] <WildSurge> basically when it's starting KDE
[08:35] <derFlo> hi
[08:35] <derFlo> is this a bad sign? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2645
[08:35] <xiaogil> HiddenWolf: ok, if it's the only inconvenient, it's not a problem
[08:35] <eipa> i wanna install opera, but i don't know what to do after downloading the package
[08:35] <WildSurge> i'm guessing the sound isn't working correctly or something, and it wants to play the bootsound
[08:35] <WildSurge> ?
[08:36] <Answer> WildSurge: I'm not brave enough to try kde yet...
[08:36] <WildSurge> eerr
[08:36] <Feles> hello all
[08:36] <WildSurge> sowwy, gnome
[08:36] <WildSurge> i am using stock ubuntu hoary
[08:36] <nalioth> derFlo: what are you wondering?
[08:36] <HiddenWolf> xiaogil, things *should* be stable
[08:36] <Billythekid> Hey, do you guys know how to install Limewire onto Ubuntu?
[08:36] <Feles> I fell asleep trying to fix my problem last night.... can anyone help me get my MBR cleaned up?
[08:37] <derFlo> nalioth: XFS recovery, dma timeout, status 0x20,...
[08:37] <derFlo> lost interrupt...
[08:37] <Answer> WildSurge: If you think what you said is the problem, go to System, Preferences, Sound, Sound Events, System Events,  Log In and disable startup3.wav
[08:37] <derFlo> if this is ok, I'll not wounder anymore
[08:37] <nalioth> derFlo: install "smartmontools" and run "smartctl"
[08:37] <atha> eipa: follow these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[08:37] <Feles> I installed Ubuntu, but somehow there's no sign of my Windows install
[08:37] <derFlo> ok
[08:38] <Answer> Feles: Are you positive that you did not erase your entire harddrive?
[08:38] <eipa> thanks atha
[08:39] <derFlo> eipa: doesn't opera have an extra ubuntu-package?
[08:39] <Feles> is there a way of checking it?
[08:39] <derFlo> and a manual
[08:39] <WildSurge> Answer: i'll try after first disabling the stupid modules again, then rebooting, then rebooting back again :(
[08:39] <keikoz> do somebody knows how to use cups under ubuntu ? root's login and passe doesnt work
[08:39] <brum> is there a way to skip over an fstab entry on boot if it is unavailable???
[08:39] <WildSurge> Why doesn't it just work(tm), i mean it's not like a soundblaster awe 32 is a very rare card!
[08:39] <daejavu> any PYTHONE programmer here ?
[08:40] <keikoz> neither my login wich is in the lpadmin group
[08:40] <Answer> WildSurge: Is it muted in alsamixer? heh
[08:41] <Feles> no... never mind there still is a Windows NTFS partition
[08:41] <Feles> But when I press Esc at the boot loader, it only shows me the ubuntu install
[08:41] <Answer> Feles: Do you have GRUB boot loader installed?  Just add the NTFS partition to Grub
[08:41] <Feles> how?
[08:42] <Answer> Feles:  see  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:43] <WildSurge> Answer: yes, but the modules are also just not loaded automatically
[08:43] <nalioth> not my day today
[08:43] <Feles> Answer: How would I find out the necessary information to put into the menu to make it an option?
[08:44] <daejavu> anyone knows  PYTHONE programing ?
[08:44] <Feles> (root, kernel, initrd, etc)
[08:44] <Answer> Feles, I'll msg you the end of my grub menu.lst
[08:44] <derFlo> where does "smartctl -t long /dev/hda" write it's output to?
[08:45] <Tuxist> is ubuntu developer here ?
[08:45] <kemik> daejavu:  python ? why not try a #python channel ?
[08:45] <nalioth> derFlo: the terminal
[08:45] <nalioth> Tuxist: ask your question
[08:45] <derFlo> oh
[08:46] <daejavu> kemik, umm know a channel ?
[08:46] <derFlo> he tells me to wait 20 minute and gives the term back
[08:46] <derFlo> i'll do a rtfm...
[08:46] <Tuxist> i have made new amarok packages 1.3.2 would have it
[08:46] <kemik> daejavu:  really.... you cant imagine what a channel would be named ??
[08:46] <puff> Hm, dangit, which package is swsusp part of?
[08:46] <kemik> daejavu:  ... try #python ?
[08:47] <Tuxist> the make with the orginal ubuntu source and i have added postgresql
[08:47] <puff> Hello?
[08:47] <daejavu> kemik, lolz .. sorry dude ... no channel like that .. ill look for it waisai
[08:47] <Tuxist> the 1.3.1 amd 64 packages crash
[08:47] <kemik> !hello
[08:47] <ubotu> kemik: I haven't a clue
[08:47] <kemik> daejavu:  im in #python right now
[08:48] <daejavu> kemik, my bad .. i didnt checked the spellin  :D
[08:49] <WildSurge> hmm
[08:49] <puff> kemik: ?
[08:49] <WildSurge> under multimedia the damn tst-pipelon crashes when playing on esdmon
[08:49] <WildSurge> i have to kill the multimedia prefs
[08:49] <puff> I'm trying to file a bug report on swsusp, but it wants a package name, and searching for swsusp in the package field doesn't seem to do much.
[08:50] <kemik> puff:  installing from source ?
[08:50] <puff> kemik: No, standard install.
[08:51] <kemik> !info swsusp
[08:51] <puff> kemik: Ah-hah... did a search for other swsusp bugs and use the package they used (file, acpi-power, linux).
[08:52] <puff> Er, acpi-support.  I guess acpi-support makes the most sense.
[08:52] <kemik> mmh
[08:52] <procrastinator> panic-like situation, here
[08:53] <kemik> procrastinate.. doit tomorrow
[08:53] <kemik> ;)
[08:53] <XHK> Omg why sounds wont work again :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[08:53] <procrastinator> I can't login to X, since it can't write my authetication file
[08:53] <kemik> hard work pays off after time.. laziness always pays off _now_
[08:53] <WildSurge> something must b conflicting with my soundcard
[08:54] <procrastinator> kemik: This is no time for jokes, you know.
[08:54] <kemik> procrastinator:  check filepermissions on your file
[08:54] <kemik> procrastinator:  and make sure they're ok
[08:54] <WildSurge> why is it so hard to configure a simple soundcard in ubuntu :(
[08:54] <procrastinator> kemik: yeah, but before I logged out I had similar problems for a lot of other stuff
[08:55] <procrastinator> kemik: even though i had 777 on the files
[08:55] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[08:55] <procrastinator> kemik: It started with OOo not wanting to save my files
[08:56] <n00bster> hello - i just  installed wine from synaptic PM, but don't know how to run it...   plz hlp
[08:56] <procrastinator> and at a point, something wouldn't start because it claimed there were no more free space on /tmp
[08:56] <Tuxist> no wine packages for amd 64 ?
[08:57] <Tuxist> where can get them
[08:57] <procrastinator> and know I'm _sure_ that I have lots of space on both my / and my /home
[08:57] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[09:00] <procrastinator> plenty of helpers this evening
[09:00] <B_166-ER-X> why is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..
[09:00] <procrastinator> rebooting.
[09:00] <n00bster> ?
[09:00] <n00bster> enyone
[09:01] <Leonik> is there anyway to view my windows files on the other partition?
[09:01] <Leonik> in ubuntu
[09:01] <mexicaan> i what folder should i run alsaconf ? :S
[09:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Leonik about windowsdrives
[09:01] <WildSurge> i dun think alsaconf is even installed mexicaan?
[09:01] <insites> wow fast breezy mirror
[09:02] <mexicaan> hmm alsa is installed i cant select it as multimedia system :S
[09:02] <insites> will the preview easily upgrade t the finished breezy using apt?
[09:02] <Feles> still not having any luck with booting my windows partition, can someone point out something I might have done wrong?
[09:02] <WildSurge> i am having similar problems mexicaan
[09:02] <transgre1s> insites: it does that already
[09:02] <nalioth> insites: yes
[09:03] <Anak1n> can someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine
[09:03] <insites> nalioth, transgress just making sure... i was going to hold of fif not.
[09:03] <Em`Zee> How possible is it for the Breezy upgrade to break my data? =P
[09:03] <nalioth> insites: ubuntu uses apt-get. it is designed to keep your system up to date easily
[09:04] <Leonik> nailoth what?
[09:04] <insites> nalioth, im familiar i used in in fc1 and 2 befre yum came along
[09:04] <clinfix> is there a summary document about ubuntu?
[09:04] <DPadclear> In the breezy preview, why can't I remove the package "xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge"?
[09:05] <kemik> procrastinator:  have you been root on your system often ?
[09:05] <B_166-ER-X> why is my bittornado not showing anywhere ? but IS installed..
[09:05] <insites> B_166-ER-X, refreched your panel?
[09:05] <procrastinator> kemik: yes
[09:05] <Anak1n> type in terminal locate bittornado
[09:05] <insites> CLI: killall gnome-panel
[09:05] <B_166-ER-X> insites better than this ; rebooted
[09:05] <transgress> B_166-ER-X: btdownloadcurses and btdownloadgui are the commands for it.
[09:05] <procrastinator> and now I'm logged in
[09:05] <Anak1n> then create launcher
[09:05] <Feles> I edited my GRUB menu, and when it tried to boot Windows, it said it was requesting the wrong place
[09:05] <kemik> procrastinator:  that's probably why your system is fubar'ed
[09:06] <insites> B_166-ER-X, azureus :)
[09:06] <kemik> procrastinator:  there's a *reason* why you should not be root
[09:06] <procrastinator> kemik: well, it seems it was lack of space on /
[09:06] <insites> solved all my bt issues :)
[09:06] <eipa> how do i choose to download the static version of opera?
[09:06] <kemik> procrastinator:  ok
[09:06] <procrastinator> kemik: and then a reboot
[09:06] <B_166-ER-X> i have a shortcut to it in my panel, added it manually... but its not showing in the like 'open with' when i click on 'download a torrent'
[09:07] <insites> can i share a home direcotry between fc4 and breezy? or do i need to make seperate ones?
[09:07] <procrastinator> kemik: Well, of course I don't log in as root
[09:07] <derFlo> c
[09:07] <derFlo> cu
[09:07] <derFlo> thank you all
[09:07] <insites> essentially my home is a unique partition right now...
[09:07] <procrastinator> insites: It works for me.
[09:07] <B_166-ER-X> azureus is not in the universe sources
[09:07] <Anak1n> can someone help me amarok is playing but I can't hear anything xmms work fine
[09:07] <nalioth> insites: if its on a seperate partition, it SHOULD work
[09:07] <insites> nalioth, great... worth a try. :)
[09:08] <insites> thanks
[09:08] <nalioth> insites: i'm not sure if fc and ubuntu specific things might conflict
[09:08] <Leonik> how can i view my windows partitions in linux>?
[09:08] <procrastinator> Insites: They just can't really share a ~/.gnome2, so you'll have to do something fancy there
[09:08] <Leonik> nmnmnm
[09:08] <Leonik> nalioth i just saw the window
[09:08] <insites> procrastinator, hrm...
[09:09] <nalioth> Leonik: did you read what ubotu sent you?
[09:09] <procrastinator> insites: like creating two different users for each system, and then symlink all foolders from one to the other
[09:09] <procrastinator> insites: Or figure out something smarter...
[09:09] <Feles> would a install on partition 5 be on hd0,4 ?
[09:09] <Leonik> nalioth i havnet yet im just wondering aobut doing a complete switch to linux
[09:10] <Leonik> so that would make the windows parition mountable?
[09:10] <recluxus> hi all
[09:10] <recluxus> is there a minimal CD for netinstall
[09:10] <recluxus> i dont want to download the whole 600 MB
[09:11] <kennethlove> recluxus: i'm guessing you don't already have ubuntu or a debian-like distro installed?
[09:11] <crimsun> recluxus, there are a number of smaller boot images, but you'll still have to retrieve base+desktop from the 'net
[09:11] <recluxus> i'm using debian for 4 years
[09:12] <kennethlove> recluxus: you can switch from debian to ubuntu w/o downloading a CD. you just change your repos.
[09:12] <recluxus> but the i got nothing installed right now on PC
[09:12] <kennethlove> ah
[09:12] <nalioth> kennethlove: it's not that easy
[09:12] <XHK> Why sounds wont work? :S XMMS works, gnome sounds work but gaim's sounds wont work :S
[09:12] <kennethlove> nalioth: according to the wiki it is. :)
[09:12] <barosl> what program support 7zip on linux?
[09:12] <recluxus> i got sarge businesscard
[09:12] <mae_> kennethlove, not exactly..
[09:12] <recluxus> and a ubuntu 4.10 i guess
[09:12] <mae_> the upgrade would not be smooth
[09:12] <kennethlove> mae_: someone needs to update the wiki, then.
[09:12] <recluxus> but i dont want the old one to install itself
[09:12] <mae_> much easier to do a fresh install
[09:12] <mae_> off c
[09:13] <mae_> kennethlove, i didn't write the article :)
[09:13] <recluxus> because then i must update the distro
[09:13] <FR500> XHK:  what option is selected in the GAIM sound preferences?
[09:13] <insites> XHK, using alsa in gaim?
[09:13] <XHK> w8
[09:13] <kennethlove> mae_: i didn't think you did. :) but it's a wiki and anyone can edit...
[09:13] <Feles> .......?
[09:13] <kennethlove> i don't know enough to change it to be correct or i would
[09:13] <mae_> kennethlove, actually i did write it
[09:14] <XHK> insites, FR500: Sound method?
[09:14] <XHK> insites, FR500: Right now its Automatic.
[09:14] <recluxus> ok then, any advices for a netinstall
[09:14] <esj> looking for help bringing ubuntu up on an intel D945Gnt mg
[09:14] <insites> mirror spped dropped. :(
[09:14] <FR500> XHK: try Alsa, or ESD
[09:14] <esj> all seems to work except X11 and network
[09:15] <insites> any BT of breezy?
[09:15] <XHK> FR500: ok, there isnt alsa, but ill try esd then
[09:15] <FR500> XHK there is a howto in the wiki for fixing sound
[09:15] <othernoob> any advantages of a usb keyboard over a ps2 kb?
[09:15] <XHK> FR500: Still not working with esd
[09:16] <recluxus> is there another channel where people answer quos ??
[09:16] <snow_> insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process?
[09:16] <miffe> anyone know how to get esmtp to send  emails through gmail?
[09:16] <XHK> FR500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary that?
[09:17] <kennethlove> recluxus: that won't get you any help
[09:17] <recluxus> kennethlove, i suppose
[09:17] <MikeStyle> Hi, here is a screenshot of my current desktop (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/mikemikemike/screenshot2.png) and im trying to get the translucency settings on my taskbar to look like this (http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/technobabble/screenie2.png) ... can anyone be of assisstance?
[09:17] <recluxus> kennethlove, nor the web helps
[09:17] <FR500> XHK: yes i think thats it
[09:17] <pepsi> MikeStyle, thats a big fat 404 buddy
[09:17] <Anak1n> pricha li ko srpski ovde?
[09:17] <MikeStyle> pepsi, what are you talking about
[09:18] <XHK> FR500: I've tried it...
[09:18] <pepsi> MikeStyle, i have no clue
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ohh
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ok
[09:18] <MikeStyle> dang :(
[09:18] <kennethlove> recluxus: i know someone mentioned some smaller install downloads, but you'll still have to download ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop afterward.
[09:18] <XHK> FR500: But do i have to add or replace those things what it says?
[09:18] <FR500> XHK: well on my laptop in hoary everything went on smoothly
[09:19] <recluxus> kennethlove, thanks i think I'll try the sarge minimal then change the distro to ubuntu
[09:19] <XHK> FR500: =/
[09:19] <FR500> XHK: but on warty i had to install alsa
[09:19] <kennethlove> recluxus: good luck
[09:19] <recluxus> kennethlove, thanks all
[09:19] <bettong_BOFH> is there a linux keyboard?
[09:19] <XHK> FR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[09:19] <crimsun> FR500, "install ALSA"? ALSA has been the default in Ubuntu since the first release...
[09:19] <bettong_BOFH> you know something with tux instaed of the windows logo
[09:19] <FR500> crimsun: i meant confiure
[09:20] <WildSurge> can anyone tell me how to change the default refresh rate of the startup screen?
[09:20] <mae_> bettong_BOFH, that would be freakin sweet :)
[09:20] <kennethlove> bettong_BOFH: .... you won't use that key in linux.
[09:20] <XHK> FR500: Can u tell me whats written in ur /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[09:20] <esj> any help with intel 945 mg problems?
[09:20] <bettong_BOFH> i know
[09:20] <MikeStyle> oh and im running a dell inspiron 5100 laptop. linux picks up that its a laptop and monitors the batery/temp. but as far as i can see there is no way to put my computer in "suspend mode". and it takes a long time to boot up every time. is there a feature to let me "suspend" my laptop?
[09:20] <kennethlove> bettong_BOFH, mae_ : scrape and paint. :)
[09:20] <mae_> kennethlove, thats not true, my right windows key is bound to opening a terminal
[09:20] <bettong_BOFH> yea thats what i'm gonna have to do >.<
[09:20] <WildSurge> welp, now my sound at least works when i boot
[09:20] <Feles> well, that was interesting
[09:20] <WildSurge> system still hangs after that tho :(
[09:21] <kennethlove> mae_: by default, then. :)
[09:21] <Feles> I can't figure out why I can't get my Windows Partition to boot
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39164303,00.htm
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> found one
[09:21] <WildSurge> where should i look when ubuntu just plain hangs hard?
[09:21] <snow_> insted of downloadin/and the installing java re. can i use apt-get to do the complete process? anyone?
[09:21] <bettong_BOFH> it even looks sweet ^_^
[09:21] <WildSurge> while starting gnome
[09:21] <miffe> snow_,
[09:22] <Feles> I set it in the GRUB menu, but it doesn't want to boot from that partition: says the device doesn't exist or some such error
[09:22] <mae_> you know, i'm thinking i just might uninstall xserver-xorg-driver-* seeing as how i use the proprietary nvidia one
[09:22] <MikeStyle> snow_ if u want java to be in ur synaptic u gotta add a few repositories...i did and mine showed up so i installed it
[09:22] <miffe> snow_, there is a j2re1.4 in breezy
[09:22] <s_wart> Feles: exactly what is the error message?
[09:22] <MikeStyle> can anyone help with either of my problems?
[09:22] <mae_> man, how long till they make xorg smart enough to figure out by itself what driver to use :)
[09:23] <WildSurge> agh!
[09:23] <Feles> I can't remember it at the moment... it's very generic
[09:23] <WildSurge> why does my machine hang when sound works?!
[09:23] <Leonik> if i install ubuntu hoary and just update to breezy following ubuntuguide.org... is that the same thing as installing breezy clean?
[09:23] <Feles> (sidenote, if I wanted to install XMMS, how would I do that?)
[09:23] <snow_> what is breezy?
[09:23] <WildSurge> gnome just plain stops loading when the banner pops up
[09:23] <FR500> Feles: sudo apt-get instal xmms
[09:23] <mae_> snow_, its breezy in here
[09:23] <Anak1n> why logoff hang?
[09:24] <WildSurge> there's nothing in var/log/messages either
[09:24] <Feles> thank you FR500
[09:24] <zAo^> where is gam_serve for?
[09:24] <s_wart> Feles: the devices follow a strict naming convention, but it depends on how you've partitioned your disk
[09:25] <Leonik> how would i want to partition my drive to save my c:?
[09:25] <mae_> will apt ever reach version 1.0?
[09:25] <Feles> well, the windows partition is supposed to be on partition 5 according to the Disk Manager in Ubuntu
[09:26] <Leonik> so it should walk me through it during the setup?
[09:26] <puff> Dang, MikeStyle was a bit impatient.
[09:26] <s_wart> Leonik: make sure you back up any data you care about. that's step 0
[09:26] <Leonik> damn i was afraid youd say that
[09:27] <Anak1n> U do not need to backup
[09:27] <[LethAL] > How can I share a printer?
[09:27] <s_wart> Anak1n: why do you say that?
[09:27] <WildSurge> hrms
[09:27] <Anak1n> because
[09:27] <Anak1n> i install
[09:27] <Anak1n> ubuntu
[09:28] <WildSurge> it seems esd is what causes the machine to hang
[09:28] <Anak1n> and i didn't backup anything
[09:28] <Anak1n> and evrything is working fine
[09:28] <Anak1n> i do not have win
[09:28] <s_wart> that makes it easier :)
[09:28] <Anak1n> but i have some ntfs partitions
[09:28] <FR500> Feles: try this, reboot, and press b, then write the boot sequence as it is (like rootnoverify....... and the clainloader +1 line and boot) just keep changing the partition number until it boots
[09:28] <Leonik> and you could keep them easily?
[09:28] <Anak1n> yes
[09:28] <Leonik> i have my entire drive formatted in ntfs and under c:
[09:28] <Anak1n> but
[09:29] <Leonik> i have 100 gigs free of the 150
[09:29] <Anak1n> ther is a problem
[09:29] <Leonik> so can i partition that part?
[09:29] <Anak1n> which part
[09:29] <Anak1n> ?
[09:29] <Leonik> the free part
[09:29] <Anak1n> yes
[09:29] <Leonik> even tho its part of my windows partition?
[09:29] <Leonik> that wont wreck it will it?
[09:29] <FR500> Leonik: yes you need a program to resize the partition
[09:29] <Anak1n> just tell ubuntu to use
[09:29] <Anak1n> free space
[09:29] <din> Leonik: partition magic
[09:29] <Anak1n> but
[09:29] <Anak1n> U should backup U r data
[09:29] <brion> sigh... i keep creating new folders when i try to open a terminal ;)
[09:29] <Anak1n> if u r a beginer
[09:29] <nalioth> FR500: not so
[09:30] <WildSurge> anyone have any experience with getting alsa to work?
[09:30] <nalioth> FR500: parted or ntfsresize will do it
[09:30] <Anak1n> no p.m.
[09:30] <Buddha|> Is there an Ubuntu-PPC channel?
[09:30] <Anak1n> no no no p.m.
[09:30] <Anak1n> never
[09:30] <Leonik> what do i type in terminal to see how much free space i have?
[09:30] <psycose> hi
[09:30] <ompaul> WildSurge, what kind of sound card is it?
[09:30] <WildSurge> sndblaster awe 32
[09:31] <WildSurge> it *is* working, but somehow esd hangs during boot
[09:31] <psycose> well i'm trying to help someone remotly, running Ubuntu Warty and running out of space ....
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, type alsamixer in a terminal see if anything is muted
[09:31] <WildSurge> so i'd prefer to use alsa
[09:31] <FR500> nalioth: but pmagic is far easier
[09:31] <s_wart> if you're resizing partitions you should backup. there is a very good chance things will take a turn for the worse
[09:31] <nalioth> FR500: and costly
[09:31] <WildSurge> ompaul when i go to preferences multimedia and i select alsa
[09:31] <Anak1n> pmagic is risk
[09:31] <WildSurge> it says it cannot build the pipeline or something
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, no
[09:31] <Anak1n> i lose my data using p.m.
[09:31] <psycose> if some have tips about where could i search for making space thanks..
[09:31] <ompaul> WildSurge, start a terminal
[09:31] <FR500> hmmm
[09:32] <FR500> well thats true
[09:32] <Anak1n> :)
[09:32] <WildSurge> hang on ompaul, system is booting now
[09:32] <WildSurge> and she's an old beast
[09:32] <Feles> wait, FR500 I've been doing that
[09:33] <Feles> brb, I'll try again
[09:33] <FR500> Feles: didnt work?
[09:33] <Feles> so far, no
[09:33] <FR500> Feles: you gotta write the 3 lines every time
[09:33] <frank23> is there anyway to "restart xv" (the video output) right now the video is just a blue screen and I don't want to restart X
[09:33] <Leonik> whats the terminal command to see how mcuh free space is left?
[09:33] <inc|freaky> my ntpupdate always is missed because of a temporary dns failure ... its because my pppoe gets started after the ntp update i guess is there any way to put the dialup stuff before the ntp update?
[09:33] <stpere> Leonik, df
[09:33] <frank23> Leonik: df
[09:34] <ompaul> is ssh installed by default?
[09:34] <FR500> (rootnoverify (hd0,0), chainloader +1; boot)
[09:34] <WildSurge> ehhh
[09:34] <Buddha|> Could someone help me with Ubuntu PPC?
[09:34] <frank23> ompaul: I don't think so
[09:34] <ompaul> WildSurge, have you dont that?
[09:34] <Leonik> thank you thank you!
[09:34] <ompaul> frank23, thanks
[09:34] <WildSurge> so how come when i've chosen alsa as the default soundinput it still starts esd on boot!?
[09:34] <WildSurge> i have not ompaul
[09:34] <ompaul> frank23, that explains the holes on my scalp :)
[09:34] <WildSurge> err not=now
[09:34] <ompaul> WildSurge, tell me when you have :)
[09:35] <Feles> FR500 can I message you with what my menu.lst file looks like for GRUB?
[09:35] <WildSurge> i have
[09:35] <WildSurge> if u wanna take it private that's cool too
[09:35] <MikeStyle> hey guys, need some more help. i found a mac emulator called Mac-On-Linux (MOL) and its having some errors once i try to compile it from its source....im running kubuntu, how would i run a .rpm?
[09:35] <FR500> Feles: well i don't really use windows, thats all i can recall, all u need most the time is that 3 lines
[09:35] <Hendric> does ubuntu support AC97???? i can;t hear sound on my pc...
[09:35] <Feles> hrm, ok
[09:35] <Hendric> but on my newer pc.. it got sound
[09:36] <FR500> MikeStyle: you can alien it so it becomes a deb, but doesnt work all the time
[09:36] <ompaul> WildSurge, address the person you are talking to in the channel :) makes it easy to follow a conversation, if there is no name at the start then it is more or less safe to assume that the person is talking to the channel
[09:36] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, now what? :)
[09:36] <MikeStyle> Alien?
[09:37] <Feles> the one thing that irks me is that in Ubuntu Disk Manager, it says the "Access Path" for the Win Partition is none.
[09:37] <ompaul> WildSurge, in the terminal start >alsamixer< with that command, then check it out using the arrow cursor keys to see if anything is muted
[09:37] <FR500> MikeStyle: yes, sudo alien pagkagename.rpm i think
[09:37] <Feles> Is that right?
[09:37] <MikeStyle> and alien is native in ubuntu
[09:37] <MikeStyle> ?
[09:37] <ompaul> MikeStyle, well it would be better to find the package on ubuntu
[09:37] <WildSurge> ompaul: alsamixer won't start
[09:37] <Hendric> in hoary but not in breezy i think
[09:37] <mae_> Feles, you can mount the windows partition anywhere you like
[09:38] <FR500> MikeStyle: not sure, but in any case you can apt-get it
[09:38] <WildSurge> hrms
[09:38] <WildSurge> now it does, wierd
[09:39] <ompaul> WildSurge,  always wait a moment - until the prompt comes back if you want to suggest that something does not start
[09:39] <WildSurge> ompaul: well i started it with an &, guess it didn't want that
[09:39] <ompaul> WildSurge,  heh
[09:39] <Feles> mae_ is there a way I can do that?
[09:39] <Hendric> how can i trouble shoot my sound device????
[09:39] <Hendric> it doesn't give any sound...
[09:39] <WildSurge> ompaul: okay, some things were muted like synth, but i put everything in the green, now what?
[09:39] <Hendric> unlike on my newer PC
[09:40] <ompaul> WildSurge, type updatedb in the terminal and let me know when it is done
[09:41] <Anak1n> can i ask something?
[09:41] <WildSurge> ompaul: i did that 2 hours or so ago already
[09:41] <ompaul> WildSurge, cool
[09:42] <WildSurge> ompaul: locate... what? :)
[09:42] <Feles> brb again
[09:42] <ompaul> WildSurge, sorry I was trying to find something - I was sshed into a server - doh! - now :)
[09:43] <ompaul> WildSurge, locate .wav
[09:43] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, lotsa sounds
[09:43] <ompaul> WildSurge, pick one and and try it with your media player
[09:43] <cyphase> how many people have come ni with firefox problems lately?
[09:44] <WildSurge> it won't work, but k
[09:44] <cyphase> like withing the last day
[09:44] <cyphase> within*
[09:44] <ompaul> cyphase, have you backports enabled?
[09:44] <ramblingturtle> hello,
[09:44] <cyphase> ompaul, i fixed my problem :)
[09:44] <WildSurge> ompaul: totem won't even start :(
[09:44] <cyphase> i'm just asking because everyone is referred to my blog to fix it..
[09:44] <ompaul> cyphase, over the last week lots
[09:45] <cyphase> and i'm going to be offline for about 6 days
[09:45] <cyphase> since i'm moving
[09:45] <ompaul> cyphase, well put it up on the wiki
[09:45] <ompaul> then have the bot point to it
[09:45] <WildSurge> ompaul: alsa device default is already in use by another program claims my musicplayer
[09:45] <cyphase> could you do it? i really don't have the time at the moment
[09:45] <cyphase> lol
[09:46] <ramblingturtle> i was wondering i upgraded to breezy and had some problems with xorg because of the nvidia-glx that i had installed so i was wondering if there is a issue or something because I have not found anything about it online at this point
[09:46] <ompaul> cyphase, give me the url :-)
[09:46] <cyphase> http;//cyphase.homelinux.com/
[09:47] <ompaul> Seveas, what to do that?
[09:47] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:47] <cyphase> oops
[09:47] <Kyral> hmm, this is odd
[09:47] <ompaul> Seveas, want to do that? :)
[09:47] <Kyral> BMP spawns two instances of itself
[09:47] <cyphase> http://cyphase.homelinux.com/
[09:47] <Anak1n> yo
[09:47] <Anak1n> anyone
[09:47] <Leonik> do could i use partition magic right now in windows and create a new partition out of the free space on my hard drive?
[09:47] <Anak1n> help with amarok please
[09:47] <WildSurge> now what? :(
[09:47] <Kyral> err, two processes
[09:47] <Leonik> and then just select that for my ubuntu install?
[09:47] <BiSK-8> i installed brezy, but i have a problem, there is no root terminal, ho do i become root, and why dosent "su" work?
[09:47] <cyphase> BiSK-8, sudo
[09:47] <BiSK-8> sudo?
[09:48] <WildSurge> BiSK-8 try sudo -s, or sudo passwd
[09:48] <ramblingturtle> leonik: yes you can just make sure it is a linux format
[09:48] <Kyral> !tell BiSK-8 about RootSudo
[09:48] <ompaul> WildSurge, >> ps auwx | less <<show you anything with sound working it ?
[09:48] <ramblingturtle> leonik: there needs to be one partition for root then one for your home directory
[09:48] <BiSK-8> so if i type sudo mypass, ill become root?
[09:48] <Kyral> only for that command
[09:48] <Feles> well, that's not workin
[09:48] <WildSurge> no
[09:49] <ramblingturtle> BiSK-8 sudo then your user pswrd
[09:49] <WildSurge> oh wait
[09:49] <Feles> here's the error message... "Invalid Device Requested"
[09:49] <cyphase> whoever puts it up, can you give me the link?
[09:49] <Feles> when I try to boot the windows partition
[09:49] <poningru> question how do I create torrent files?
[09:49] <Kyral> He asked if sudo gives him a Root Shell
[09:49] <WildSurge> ompaul: for instance /usr/bin/esd --nobeeps
[09:50] <ramblingturtle> sudo su will give a root shell ?
[09:50] <WildSurge> and alsamixer
[09:50] <BiSK-8> if i type sudo i get a sort of list of all the possibile sudo commands
[09:50] <nalioth> poningru: in a terminal "btmaketorrentgui.py"
[09:50] <shawarma> Am I the only one having problems with usplash since a couple of days ago? ("problems" == it never shows up)
[09:50] <BiSK-8> i need 2 become root
[09:50] <snow_> can you install BitchX with apt-get?
[09:50] <ramblingturtle> BiSK-8 in a terminal type sudo su
[09:50] <nalioth> snow_: yes
[09:51] <shawarma> snow_: Sure.
[09:51] <Belutz> snow_, yes you can
[09:51] <ompaul> WildSurge, killall esd
[09:51] <Kyral> You don't NEED to become root
[09:51] <snow_> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[09:51] <Kyral> you just have to preface all your commands with sudo :P
[09:51] <BiSK-8> oh
[09:51] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:51] <BiSK-8> i got it
[09:51] <ompaul> BiSK-8, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:51] <BiSK-8> thx man
[09:51] <Belutz> snow_, i think it's BitchX not bitchx
[09:51] <BiSK-8> i did
[09:51] <hoderaz|dodo> hi
[09:51] <WildSurge> ompaul: did that already, also killed alsamixer
[09:52] <Kyral> the best part is that sudo sets a timestamp
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, now try to play wav
[09:52] <Kyral> so for like 15 minutes you don't have to reenter your password
[09:52] <snow_> snow@balance:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install BitchX
[09:52] <snow_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:52] <snow_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:52] <snow_> E: Couldn't find package BitchX
[09:52] <WildSurge> ompaul: but that doesn't seem to b wanna killed (alsamixer)
[09:52] <Feles> heh, everyone that's helped me so far has left the channel...
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, ignore the mixer
[09:52] <hoderaz|dodo> just a question : when ubuntu 5.10 will be out ?
[09:52] <tag> How would I start Xnest with ion in it?
[09:52] <ompaul> WildSurge, just try the player
[09:52] <deFrysk> snow_, leave the caps
[09:52] <B_166-ER-X> whats a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ?
[09:53] <ramblingturtle> so anybody else have problems with nvidia-glx when upgrading to Colony 5
[09:53] <insites> hoderaz|dodo, oct
[09:53] <insites> B_166-ER-X, azureus
[09:53] <mellon> it comes with one installed.
[09:53] <snow_> defrysk, i've tried bitchx aswell
[09:53] <hoderaz|dodo> insites : is it the 13 ?
[09:53] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, you need to download and install the NVidia package manually
[09:53] <ompaul> WildSurge, I am going to type up the firefox thing before it gets lost
[09:53] <prometoys> snow_ it is in universe
[09:53] <snow_> i just done update and upgrade
[09:53] <B_166-ER-X> insites : i tried to install it, but it saying OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[09:53] <deFrysk> !info bitchx
[09:53] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB
[09:53] <Kyral> then use BitTornado
[09:53] <ompaul> WildSurge, back in a couple of mins
[09:53] <B_166-ER-X> and i looked for the missing package and cannot find it
[09:53] <deFrysk> snow_, its in universe
[09:53] <snow_> that means?
[09:54] <insites> B_166-ER-X,  you installed jre 1.5?
[09:54] <Belutz> snow_, you must enable the universe repos first
[09:54] <B_166-ER-X> tornado doesnt show up where he is supposed to be
[09:54] <WildSurge> ompaul: k, well sound sorta works now, but i have a sneaky suspicion it started esd to make it work
[09:54] <snow_> ohh, someone please tell me=)
[09:54] <B_166-ER-X> i didnt find any JRE package
[09:54] <Kyral> bittornado-gui
[09:54] <Kensey> I get a kernel panic trying to boot the new kernel I just compiled
[09:54] <Kyral> or something like that
[09:54] <deFrysk> !tell snow_ about repositories
[09:54] <Kyral> and the JRE isn't in the Repos anymore
[09:54] <ramblingturtle> Kyral, will it mess up anything because i just got x working again but my graphics are really bad without the nvidia-glx
[09:54] <deFrysk> snow_, read ubotu's message
[09:54] <InitMass> which is the best way to upgrade to breezy? is it to change everything from hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then make an apt-get dist-ugrade?
[09:55] <Kensey> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[09:55] <poningru> nalioth: thanks man
[09:55] <Kyral> ramblingturtle, just go to NVidia.com, download the driver (7667, NOT 7676)
[09:55] <insites> B_166-ER-X, http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[09:55] <jpfarias> hi
[09:55] <deFrysk> insites, no no no
[09:55] <Kyral> insites, that won't work anymore
[09:55] <insites> sorry then.
[09:55] <B_166-ER-X> Kyral , i have a shortcut for the bittornado gui, but i want it to be accessible in the download menu of firefox like 'open with'
[09:55] <jpfarias> hey guys
[09:55] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[09:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:56] <jpfarias> is there a way to say ssh to not ask my password?
[09:56] <Kyral> B_166-ER-X, try pointing firefox to the bin file
[09:56] <B_166-ER-X> ubuntuguide IS out ofdate
[09:56] <prometoys> does somebody use breezy on ibookG4? i have problems with suspend to ram?
[09:56] <ryufreak> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[09:56] <jpfarias> like storing it in a file or something else...
[09:56] <Feles> Anyone have any clue how to fix my booting into windows problem?
[09:57] <B_166-ER-X> why did they removed jre ??
[09:57] <Feles> When I set the partition in GRUB and try to boot, it says: "Invalid device requested"
[09:57] <ramblingturtle> Kyral, thanks I will give it a try and one other quick question i am unable to boot to kernel 2.6.12 after upgrading but everything else is working fine is there a way to get the new kernel to boot
[09:57] <holycow> hellow fellow ubuntuleers
[09:57] <holycow> -_-
[09:58] <reiki_work> I have a strong suspicion that I'm about to ask a dumb question... but what is Colony 5?  When I go to that link the downloads look like Breezy install and live CD images. I'm confused. I thought Colony 5 was a game. :)