[16:42] <trism> Jake71: it is the epoch, see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html
[16:42] <TJ-> SnapSnap: It's a well known very obscure issue we've been working on for a while. Don't worry unduly... its caused by the mounts being done in parallel.
[16:42] <Jake71> Got it! Thanks!
[16:42] <TJ-> faenil: That would depend on the device itself, and the OS and tools on it.
[16:43] <john515> can somebody tell me why I get "command not found"? My script is placed in /etc/init.d , I registered it with update-rc.d , and it's code is the following: http://pastebin.com/S1NMzFUi
[16:43] <mneptok> zack6849: http://linux.die.net/man/4/radeon
[16:43] <SnapSnap> TJ-: So I'm safe to ignore it until it's patched?
[16:43] <TJ-> john515: Did you make the script executable using "sudo chmod a+x /etc/init.d/myscript"  ?
[16:43] <bekks> john515: What are the permissions of that file?
[16:44] <zack6849> mneptok, my video card isnt listed there
 which "command not found ??
[16:44] <faenil> TJ-, it is a linux-based OS, are more details needed? or is it the same for all linux devices?
[16:44] <Oxnard_Dogg> script cvommand?
[16:44] <mneptok> zack6849: start looking at the (already installed) program xrandr
[16:44] <Oxnard_Dogg> or some command inside the srcipt?
[16:44] <TJ-> SnapSnap: Yes ... we've been investigating it for a long while and I get it here on one of my servers but we've not yet figured out why :s
[16:44] <soliloquy> Hello. I used Ubuntu for a few years up until a couple of years ago when my school required that I buy a Mac. I'm not considering using Ubuntu again but I'm not sure. I'm a themer, and I see that GTK2 is now replaced in part by GTK3…. is there any GTK3 pixmap engine, or anything like it?
[16:44] <john515> using chmod a+x solved it
[16:44] <john515> thanks
[16:44] <john515> missed that tidbit
[16:45] <zack6849> mneptok, i cant find that program
[16:45] <mneptok> zack6849: it is a command-line app
[16:45] <mobhero> bekks : Thank you so much....
[16:45] <designbybeck> how do I setup a basic mailserver on Ubuntu? I need SMTP
[16:45] <designbybeck> sudo apt-get install smtp !?
[16:45] <TJ-> faenil: Unless the device provides a GUI way to change the label of the file-system I'd think you may have to custom-compile tools to change the label. At the base level, if the OS has at least the "dd" tool, you could figure out the exact position of the label on the file-system and use "dd" to just overwrite the bytes that represent the label
[16:46] <TJ-> designbybeck: "sudo apt-get install postfix"
[16:46] <zack6849> mneptok, i have absolutley no idea what im looking at
[16:46] <designbybeck> ah! Thank you TJ
[16:46] <mneptok> designbybeck: if all you need is SMTP, exim is probably the easiest to install and configure.
[16:46] <LoT> what's the package name for "archive manager"?  is it file-roller? (in default Ubuntu 12.10)
[16:46] <LoT> s/12.10/12.04/
[16:46] <designbybeck> I think it was postfix I installed before mneptok I just couldn't remember
[16:46] <trism> soliloquy: we use unico by default, and there is adwaita too included with gtk3
[16:46] <TJ-> LoT: yes file-roller is the GUI archiver
[16:47] <mneptok> designbybeck: postfix is more feature complete. exim is more straightforward,
[16:47] <faenil> TJ-, I can change the firmware of the device, the kernel, and everything...
[16:47] <faenil> I just need to know where that label is stored :D
[16:47] <heisenmink> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path
[16:47] <zack6849> i hate to sit here and aask you guys to spoonfeed me info xD
[16:47] <zack6849> ill go see if i cant find a guide on the internet somewhere
[16:47] <TJ-> faenil: Then you can overwrite the label in the image at the offset it is at... I think FAT32 file-system labels are maximum of 8.3 bytes (as per the old DOS max size)
[16:47] <soliloquy> trism: yes, but do ALL elements have to be coded via CSS, or can you tell it "draw the button using this image in this location?" for whatever you'd like?
[16:48] <TJ-> faenil: If you know the current label ... you can search the file-system image for it, and know you can overwrite at most 11 bytes from the start of the label
[16:48] <mneptok> zack6849: graphics companies treat their work like state secrets. this is only now begininng to change. on Linux you are left with giant binary blobs that are almost unmaintaniable, or reverse-engineered work that assumes you know your way around a Unix command line.
[16:48] <faenil> TJ-, ok, I thought there was some known file for that, that's why I asked here :) thanks anyway! ^^ I'll look for it ;)
[16:49] <mneptok> zack6849: do a YouTube search for "linus torvalds nvidia" to see why this stuff doesn't "Just Work" in anything but closed, proprietary OSes.
[16:49] <trism> soliloquy: oh, I imagine you can still use images, look at the Ambiance theme, there are a bunch of images in the gtk-3.0/assets folder
[16:49] <TJ-> faenil: As I said, if you can loop-mount the file-system image on a Linux box, you can use the tools referred to in that web-page I referred you to
[16:49] <mneptok> zack6849: that video has NSFW language.
[16:49] <faenil> ok
[16:50] <trism> soliloquy: you'd need to use css still though, you can just use the url(/path) property
[16:50] <TJ-> faenil: If it turns out to be a yaffs file-system be careful
[16:50] <john515> TJ- bekks : I got Starting daemon: flashpolicydGot Errno::EISDIR Is a directory - / while attempting to create logfile
[16:50] <zack6849> alright mneptok, sorry about arguing so much about dribvvers, im so used to downloading everything from the manufacturer im getting cinfused
[16:50] <zack6849> *confused
[16:50] <bekks> john515: Thats not "command not found". :9
[16:50] <john515> after I did a+x
[16:50] <john515> :P
[16:51] <john515> prior to chmod a+x I had "command not found", now it's this
[16:51] <soliloquy> trism: CSS doesn't bother me, I just want to port a theme that was all-pixmap if I'm going to go back to Ubuntu. I'm incredibly picky about my UI && Apple has the Mac so locked down it's become hard for me to change it to suit my tastes.
[16:51] <TJ-> john515: Yes, the chmod +x simply allows your script to run. Now you're seeing an error from the commands within it
[16:51] <john515> oh
[16:52] <john515> from terminal it does work though
[16:52] <john515> have I done something wrong within the script?
[16:52] <usr13> faenil: I don't know if this contains the information you want, but: http://www.osronline.com/ddkx/install/idstrings_8tt3.htm#ddk_hardware_ids_dg
[16:52] <TJ-> john515: and the EISDIR means Error Is A Directory
[16:52] <bekks> john515: We have no clue, what you've done - when not running an init script from the terminal.
[16:52] <TJ-> john515: so look at the --log setting "/usr/local/lib/flashpolicyd/flashpolicyd.log" - it is saying that is a directory, not a file!
[16:52] <faenil> usr13, no that's not it ;)
[16:53] <john515> sec
[16:53] <TJ-> john515: I'd recommend you have it write the log to the standard location /var/log/
[16:53] <john515> log didn't get created for some reason
[16:53] <TJ-> john515: so that'd be "--log /var/log/flashpolicyd.log"
[16:54] <john515> you're right
[16:54] <usr13> faenil: Well, I don't know.  I've never paid much attention to the names.
[16:54] <TJ-> john515: I know :p
[16:54] <faenil> usr13, np, thanks anyway :)
[16:54] <john515> I just wanted them together, if possible
[16:54] <john515> lemme check
[16:54] <TJ-> john515: All logs should be in /var/log/
[16:54] <bekks> john515: All other logs are reside in /var/log :)
[16:54] <trism> soliloquy: oh I see, should be possible, good luck with the effort
[16:55] <carrasca> r
[16:55] <carrasca> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:55] <zack6849> wait, mneptok, should i use the ones my systems settings driver tab has?
[16:55] <zack6849> because the one you linked me doesnt have my video card listen
[16:55] <zack6849> *listed
[16:56] <usr13> faenil: http://www.osronline.com/ddkx/install/idstrings_8tt3.htm#ddk_device_ids_dg
[16:57] <john515> Starting daemon: flashpolicyd/usr/local/lib/flashpolicyd/flashpolicyd.rb: option `--log' is ambiguous
[16:57] <john515> T_T
[16:57] <bieb> trism:  can you look at this pastebin? I created it based on another .desktop file, but when I login as different user, it doesnt autostart pastebin.com/d7Ank8xr
[16:58] <faenil> usr13, don't think that's it...^^
[16:58] <john515> how do I overcome that error?
[16:58] <trism> bieb: oh, the Exec= is wrong, you want the path to the script to be there
[16:58] <trism> bieb: drop the AutostartCondition line
[16:59] <roadfish> got partition misaligned error from palimpest but I used a new version of gparted which is supposed to alignon 1MB. anyone else been getting this problem?
[16:59] <bieb> trism: ok
[16:59] <roadfish> s/alignon/align on/
[16:59] <trism> bieb: the AutostartCondition line is if you have a gsettings key to enable/disable the service on login
[17:00] <TJ-> john515: what is after the --log
[17:00] <speciaLGuest> aanybody can help me with my "last" command output ? http://pastebin.com/Hi5A1dBf never had so many lines/rows in there
[17:00] <john515> shall I give you a pastebin to look at?
[17:00] <TJ-> john515: sure
[17:01] <john515> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/L7RhapQZ
[17:02] <bieb> trism:
[17:02] <bieb> trism: Thanks.. that worked
[17:02] <john515> the basic idea is that I'd like to run that flashpolicyd.rb with those two arguments bellow
[17:02] <trism> bieb: excellent
[17:02] <john515> but I've been trying two days, without success, to place it on the startup
[17:03] <TJ-> john515: that makes me think that either: it doesn't understand the "--log ..." or, the flashpolicy.xml also contains a log entry and it can't decide which one to use
[17:03] <john515> if I try it from putty with ./flashpolicy --xml --log it works
[17:03] <bekks> "... --log" is NOT "... --log filename"
[17:03] <TJ-> john515: hmmm that sounds like .... what bekks just said!
[17:04] <john515> hm
[17:04] <john515> lemme try
[17:04] <TJ-> john515: obviously, --log just means "do some logging" not "here's where to log to"
[17:05] <john515> I removed the --log altogether and got a new error
[17:05] <john515> Starting daemon: flashpolicydGot Errno::EISDIR Is a directory - / while attempting to create logfile
[17:05] <john515> lol
[17:05] <john515> I'm pulling my hair
[17:05] <meegooo> how to roll back this !:  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-key-theme "Emacs"
[17:05] <meegooo> i want to back to default
[17:05] <harnek> hi how do I do a fresh install of 12.04 (removing all data)?
[17:06] <bekks> harnek: By fresh installing 12.04.
[17:06] <harnek> what command do i use
[17:06] <harnek> is there a terminal command
[17:06] <TJ-> john515: check in the flashpolicy.xml in case that is making the setting
[17:06] <jack_guru> I am trying to use notify-osd with firefox. The default  notification-daemon works like a charm, but with osd it uses  xul instead of osd. Any ideas?
[17:06] <john515> sec
[17:07] <harnek> i tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a" but it did not do anything
[17:07] <trism> meegooo: gsettings reset org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-key-theme
[17:07] <john515> <?xml version="1.0"?>
[17:07] <john515> <!DOCTYPE cross-domain-policy SYSTEM "/xml/dtds/cross-domain-policy.dtd">

[17:07] <john515>    <site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies="master-only"/>
[17:07] <john515>    <allow-access-from domain="*" to-ports="6667" />
[17:07] <FloodBot1> john515: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.

[17:07] <unless> How do I scan a IP network to figure which ports is open?
[17:07] <meegooo>  trism: thanks
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> harnek:  that would not be a fresh install.. just reconfiguring x.. what do you need exactly?
[17:08] <harnek> i want to do a fresh install like have it completely refresh
[17:08] <usr13> harnek: That wouldn't be a single command.  It would require the installer to do a lot of things.
[17:08] <harnek> all data removed
[17:08] <harnek> oh..
[17:08] <harnek> How owuld I do that? my laptop has no cd drive and I have no usb key. Is there an easy installer for linux?
[17:09] <usr13> harnek: You would need to boot to the CD or USB and run the installer.
[17:09] <john515> well, I don't see any logfile option in the xml
[17:09] <harnek> ok..
[17:09] <john515> as I c/p-ed aboved
[17:09] <Oxnard_Dogg>  I tried Ubuntu 12.04 and it couldn't recognize my Broacom b43 bcm4312 wireless adapter,,,,but Puppy Linux can....why can Puppy linux do it?
[17:09] <john515> above*
[17:09] <physically_fit> friends, what's the best program to download Magnet links?
[17:09] <bekks> Oxnard_Dogg: We have no clue about puppy linux.
[17:09] <zack6849> physically_fit, a torrenting client
[17:09] <usr13> harnek: "usb key"?
[17:09] <harnek> i have no usb key
[17:09] <harnek> like a usb thum drive
[17:09] <zack6849> maybe transmission supports it
[17:09] <physically_fit> zack6849, i have Transmission but Magnets don't work
  i LIke Tixati for magnetic links
[17:10] <john515> shall I try a different approach to run the server on startup?
[17:10] <physically_fit> Oxnard_Dogg, thankie
[17:10] <john515> what other choices I have?
[17:10] <mike760534211> i am trying to find info on how to create a short cut to terminal session that always starts in root.  is that possible.  any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:10] <TJ-> john515: Do you know there's an Ubuntu PPA containing flashpolicyd that has an init script file already?
[17:10] <usr13> harnek: You could also do a PXE install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> harnek:  that command is depreciated.. what do you need to do?
[17:11] <harnek> I want to re-install ubuntu fresh
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[17:11] <john515> really? any link/documentation?
[17:11] <TJ-> john515: https://launchpad.net/~brightbox/+archive/ppa/+packages
[17:11] <john515> I did it manually by installing ruby and wgetting files :/
[17:11] <john515> does it require any dependencies?
[17:11] <usr13> harnek: Why do you want to re-install?
[17:12] <TJ-> john515: Well, try adding that PPA and installing it using "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashpolicyd"
[17:12] <TJ-> john515: apt will take care of all dependencies
[17:12] <usr13> harnek:  What exactly are you tring fix?
[17:12] <john515> cool
[17:12] <john515> one final question
[17:12] <john515> I don't remember how to add the repo/ppa thingy :P
[17:13] <sikanderkhan> anyone installed evernote on wine
[17:13] <usr13> !repos | john515
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !Appdb
[17:13] <TJ-> john515: read that page, it gives you that info
[17:13] <john515> arigato :)
[17:13] <TJ-> john515: "Technical details about this PPA" https://launchpad.net/~brightbox/+archive/ppa
[17:14] <TJ-> john515: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:brightbox/ppa"
[17:14] <physically_fit> why is ubuntu's software centre soooooooooooooooo slow?
[17:14] <john515> I opened the instructions it had on the page
[17:14] <TJ-> physically_fit: A bug ... it's being looked at
[17:15] <sikanderkhan> ubottu: It installs fine but it cannot connect with the sercer
[17:15] <john515> nice, I learned something new again :D
[17:15] <physically_fit> TJ-, good to know, thanks
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> physically_fit:  ive heqrd the servere are under high load lately
[17:15] <physically_fit> Dr_Willis, ok, thanks
[17:15] <TJ-> physically_fit: There's bug in the scanning code when it starts up
[17:16] <physically_fit> TJ-, k
[17:16] <TJ-> physically_fit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/945524
[17:17] <Guest73913> bjr
[17:18] <physically_fit> TJ-, thanks again. it's been slow since i installed 12.04 in April
[17:18] <TJ-> physically_fit: same here... I was getting ready to throw it!
[17:18] <greenit> hi, i want to install the gentoo-iso (170 mb) on an usb-stick with ubuntu.... can any1 help me? when i want to use the startu-media-creator i click "others..." and choose the iso, but it doesn't take it :(
[17:18] <physically_fit> TJ-, yeah, and it slows down all my apps too
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> greenit:  see gento docs - ubuntu tool is for ubuntu only i belive
[17:19] <greenit> Dr_Willis, oh, k
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> greenit:  or the pendrivelinux site tools
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> or just dd the iso to the usb
[17:19] <john515> oh, it did require ruby after all
[17:20] <TJ-> john515: Well it would - it's written in Ruby (why, I cannot imagine!)
[17:20] <zack6849> anyone here who can give me a hand with drivers?
[17:20] <zack6849> im sufficiently confused.
[17:21] <john515> I mean I didn't expect a different repository having the module in the same language :P
[17:21] <john515> anyhow
[17:21] <john515> gave a boot to the system
[17:21] <john515> let's see if it works now
[17:21] <FloodBot1> john515: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <john515> it works
[17:21] <TJ-> john515: That's a good result after 2 days!
[17:21] <john515> thanks TJ- :D
[17:22] <TJ-> john515: You're welcome... I think you deserve a nice cup of tea now!
[17:22] <john515> I'm still learning the ropes, I'be been using it like 3 weeks now :P
[17:22] <john515> I can say I'm pretty much loving it
[17:22] <TJ-> john515: Congratulations on sticking with it... it can be an uphill struggle at times... even for those of us that have been with it a long time
[17:22] <john515> I know
[17:23] <john515> so far I've placed apache, mysql, dovecot, postfix, webmail and hybrid w/ services :P
[17:23] <john515> plus a little flash irc client with an eggdrop :P
[17:23] <john515> much work eh
[17:23] <john515> but I learned alot
[17:24] <TJ-> john515: IF you need a web GUI to manage those server bits you could look at Webmin/VirtualMin/Usermin combo. For some reason Ubuntu warns against it as being somehow incompatible but in 6 years managing Ubuntu servers it's never broken anything for me
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !Ebox
[17:25] <john515> I usually stick with console xdrp and putty, but sure, I'll check it out
[17:25] <zack6849> tj, hate to bother you but when you have a chance some assistance would be appreciated if you may be able to help me
[17:25] <zorael> Is it possible to fake a package as being installed without actually installing any of its files?
[17:26] <TJ-> john515: me too, but I tell you what, navigating the complexities of Postfix is sure made easier!
[17:26] <TJ-> zack6849: fire away!
[17:26] <john515> oh yeah, postfix took me days
[17:26] <Rhombix> Hi, I'm trying to run the Tetrinet client.
[17:26] <zack6849> i need drivers for my amd radeon card
[17:26] <john515> and know what? I had an error because I had uppercase names and it tried to mail in lowercase.. lmao
[17:26] <TJ-> zack6849: Yurgh!!
[17:26] <zack6849> and the default ones in my control panel arent installing
[17:26] <zack6849> so i have absolutley noidea what to do
[17:27] <zack6849> im learning the ropes of ubuntu
[17:27] <Rhombix> After installing Tetrinet with stnaptic, I tried to run it in the terminal, but nothing seemed to happen and the terminal had to be closed.
[17:27] <Rhombix> ^synaptic
[17:27] <aklls> how can I get my zd1211rw device go into master mode so I can create soft wireless access point?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !Info tetrinet
[17:28] <TJ-> zack6849: My first port of call with these things is to check for the most recent additions to the system logs by doing "ls -ltr /var/log/" and then viewing the most recently changed log files (after having done something that didn't work out) to see if they contain clues
[17:28] <john515> oh, since zack mentioned gpu stuff
[17:28] <TJ-> john515: uhoh!
[17:29] <john515> in the early days, I tried to give it a go with that quakelive, but I suspect I got a gpu lock
[17:29] <john515> doesn't the driver restart on it's own if it crashes?
[17:31] <TJ-> zack6849: From the dash "log file viewer" will allow you to open the log files you want to view
[17:31] <john515> in any case, I'm no longer playing games in my homeserver :P
[17:31] <zack6849> tk, how do i even open my logs?
[17:31] <zack6849> this is my very first day of using ubuntu :/
[17:31] <john515> with cat or joe
[17:32] <TJ-> zack6849: using the "log file viewer"
[17:32] <john515> ah
[17:32] <john515> he's not using terminal :P
[17:32] <zack6849> that would make sense..
[17:32] <TJ-> john515: No, it's better to use the GUI since it handles opening and presenting files with root-only privileges
[17:32] <zack6849> now what exactly should i be looking for?
[17:32] <john515> only if you're in the vincinity of the system though\
[17:33] <john515> remote desktop would be more laggy than ssh
[17:33] <zack6849> actually, ill be right back, beacuase i just updated some things and that may help
[17:33] <TJ-> john515: I tend to use less /var/log/somefile then press "End" to get to the end of the file, then search back using a regular-expression but pressing "?" and typing the search term
[17:33] <aklls> how can I get my zd1211rw device go into master mode so I can create soft wireless access point?
[17:33] <john515> works too
[17:33] <john515> you can also tail
[17:33] <john515> I think
[17:34] <TJ-> john515: When I know which file is going to get the log reports before I do something, I'll have one terminal running "tail -f /var/log/somefile.log"
[17:34] <john515> we did a lil unix on university, and I got interested :D
[17:34] <john515> yeap
[17:34] <TJ-> john515: the "-f" shows all new entries as they are written to the file
[17:35] <john515> aha
[17:35] <john515> f stands for force?
[17:35] <TJ-> john515: "follow"
[17:36] <john515> oh
[17:36] <john515> tons of info, but thankfully tons of time :D
[17:36] <john515> to view permissions, it's ls -ld, right?
[17:36] <TJ-> john515: Your best friend is "man <some-command>" ... man-pages are the best resource
[17:37] <john515> yeap
[17:37] <john515> I know that cmd
[17:37] <TJ-> john515: For permissions " ls -l" generally. "-d" will list directory entries themselves, rather than their contents
[17:38] <john515> I've been running into an issue that I was getting garbage with that command latelly
[17:38] <john515> (through putty)
[17:38] <TJ-> Usually you want to list the files rather than the single directory ... using "-a" is always handy since it reveals 'hidden' files (those starting with a .)
[17:38] <TJ-> john515: Incorrect encoding maybe?
[17:39] <TJ-> john515: maybe the wrong terminal emulation for the connection?
[17:39] <john515> it was working a few days ago, that's the funny thing
[17:39] <john515> total 64                           Ξ³Ξ» 15 22:33 Videos Oneesktop
[17:39] <john515> johnny@Server:~$ nny johnny 4096 ΞΞΏΟ
[17:39] <TJ-> john515: do you have the host saved in putty's call list? if so, try creating a new one for the same host in case some saved putty setting is causing it
[17:39] <john515> example of an output
[17:40] <TJ-> john515: That does look like an encoding issue
[17:40] <john515> I have two windows pcs
[17:40] <john515> one has the putty with a saved host
[17:40] <john515> the other one hasn't
[17:40] <digitalirony> Weird, I still can not get dashboard to list the nodes from the puppetmaster
[17:40] <john515> both are facing the issue
[17:40] <john515> but you're correct, must be encoding
[17:40] <TJ-> john515: if it happens from both then my guess is you've been customised the terminal with escape sequences in something like .bashrc
[17:40] <digitalirony> It seems like it either is not connecting to puppetmaster, or is not able to query for information (both on same host machine)
[17:41] <kaoruko_> Uhm, Hiya
[17:41] <digitalirony> I tried looking at error logs, but they were not very verbose, and actually didn't report any errors
[17:41] <john515> I haven't touched anything in the configuration, I think, though :P
[17:41] <TJ-> john515: hmmm :p
[17:41] <john515> I hope my brother didn't mess it up
[17:41] <kaoruko_> Could I possibly have some assistance?
[17:42] <john515> kaoruko_ fire it up
[17:42] <kaoruko_> Okay; Uhm. I just created a dual boot with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12 a couple days ago; and I'm having a few minor issues since
[17:42] <john515> like?
[17:42] <theadmin> kaoruko_: Describe them.
[17:43] <theadmin> kaoruko_: In as much detail as possible
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> in one line
[17:43] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Good save :)
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> *phew* ;-)
[17:44] <TJ-> :D
[17:44] <john515> lmao
[17:44] <kaoruko_> One of them is that when I'm typing my cursor will sometimes jump elsewhere, such as out of the textarea or backward in previously typed text. It does this in Google Chrome and Firefox, as well as (though not as often) within Ubuntu's preinstalled programs (terminal, as an example)
[17:44] <TJ-> But please don't use TXT SPK!
[17:44] <theadmin> kaoruko_: Do you have a touchpad?
[17:44] <TJ-> kaoruko_: Are you using a laptop with a touchpad
[17:45] <panzb> i co ? dowartościowało cię to?, jesteś niby jakaś lepsza?.
[17:45] <panzb> ?
[17:45] <panzb> kurwa
[17:45] <panzb> nie tu
[17:45] <TJ-> kaoruko_: There's an option to turn off the touchpad when you're typing... your wrists will sometimes brush the surface
[17:45] <john515> usually there's a button above the touchpad
[17:45] <john515> that disables it
[17:45] <kaoruko_> Sorry, I forgot that. Yes; I have a laptop with a touchpad. I can use it for navigation and clicking (buttons or tap) just fine; but i cannot disable it by double-tapping the corner as I can within Windows 7
[17:46] <peterrus> Is there something I can do about EDID checksum errors? My monitor wont get recognized as an invalid EDID checksum is found
[17:46] <john515> doesn't your laptop provide with a toggle button for the touchpad?
[17:46] <john515> such as an on/off switch
[17:47] <TJ-> kaoruko_: You need to use the system menu (top-right corner) System Settings > Mouse and Touchpad > Touchpad > General "disable touchpad whilst typing"
[17:47] <kaoruko_> TJ: I have done so, and it still seems to do it.
[17:47] <TJ-> peterrus: not alot unfortunately, unless you create a valid EDID.bin and tell the driver to force-load it
[17:47] <peterrus> kaoruko_, check the mouse/touchpad options in your control centre
[17:48] <peterrus> TJ-, but then I would need the contents of that file, how would I get these?
[17:48] <TJ-> kaoruko_: Oh! Hmmm, can you confirm that brushing the pad is the cause of the moving cursor
[17:48] <peterrus> ah well there must be something to dump edid data
[17:48] <TJ-> peterrus: That's a highly technical operation, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're well-versed in EDID and modelines and so forth.
[17:49] <zack6849> alright im back :P
[17:49] <TJ-> peterrus: Unless you can find someone with the exact same model monitor and get them to save their EDID for you to use
[17:49] <kaoruko_> Well, I've been doing quite a bit of typing (I write short fiction often; as well as scripting) and it occurs often. I use an external mouse though; not the touchpad
[17:50] <TJ-> peterrus: there's a package provides the EDID utils get-edid and parse-edid
[17:50] <zack6849> tj, woudl you reccomend the "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)" ?
[17:50] <TJ-> zack6849: I'd think the updates are there to fix bugs or extend functionality, so it sounds like a reasonable choice
[17:51] <TJ-> peterrus: the package is read-edid
[17:51] <kaoruko_> And that; what zack6849 just asked. I can't update these drivers; it always gives me an error log output file
[17:51] <peterrus> TJ-, got it ;)
[17:51] <zack6849> i get the same thing kaoruko_ , i updated all my stuff and am trying again
[17:51] <TJ-> kaoruko_: try covering the touchpad with a piece of stiff card or similar. If that changes things you know it is the touchpad sensitivity
[17:52] <peterrus> parsing the info gives me a nice overview of the monitors capabilitys
[17:52] <zack6849> got the same eroor
[17:52] <zack6849> "Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[17:52] <zack6849> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[17:52] <TJ-> zack6849: Can you pastebin the last 30 or so longs from that log file?
[17:53] <zack6849> how do i get to that log file tj?
[17:54] <zack6849> nevermind
[17:54] <kaoruko_> TJ; alright. I'll try that; is there any way to enable the off/on switch? I can't seem to find anywhere download/install appropriate material to allow  this
[17:54] <zack6849> i found it
[17:55] <TJ-> kaoruko_: The only way I know to control it is through that GUI dialog... there's probably a sysfs control knob to totally disable the touchpad too, if you find that is what causes the cursor to move
[17:55] <zack6849> http://pastebin.com/iWaVK4V4
[17:55] <zack6849> TJ-, there ya go
[17:55] <zack6849> i copied a little more than necessary i think
[17:56] <Odra> Hello
[17:56] <TJ-> zack6849: no, that's very useful
[17:57] <kaoruko_> Oh; and I also had a concern. A friend of mine who is quite versed in Linux can't figure it out either. I have 2 GB onboard RAM; but in Windows and Ubuntu I am only reported to have 1.6 GB RAM useable?
[17:58] <DJones> karakedi: Does your graphics card use shared memory
[17:58] <DJones> kaoruko_:  That was meant for you
[17:59] <TJ-> kaoruko_: If the video graphics chips is built-it it is likely using some of RAM for its video buffer
[17:59] <kaoruko_> DJones, I am not sur
[17:59] <TJ-> kaoruko_: add-on video cards come with their own RAM
[17:59] <kaoruko_> TJ: That was what he thought as well.
[17:59] <foobArrr> is there a tool that displays nice disk activity graphs, like gnome-system-monitor does for CPU, memory and network?
[18:00] <Odra> Could some please test my totally not suspicious or harmful in any proposital way stopwatch gadget and tell me whether it doesnt crash? A friend of mine said its not working properly and I don't really know anybody else to ask.
[18:00] <kaoruko_> I would upload the jockey log, but I can't find the directory it's in (I have hidden file viewing enabled) :0
[18:00] <john515> TJ- have you done any research on wake on lan?
[18:01] <TJ-> zack6849: This maybe your bug # 994672
[18:01] <TJ-> zack6849: This maybe your bug #994672
[18:01] <kaoruko_> foobar: try System Monitor?
[18:01] <kaoruko_> FoobArrr*
[18:02] <TJ-> zack6849: that's a duplicate of the main tracker bug #873058
[18:02] <foobArrr> kaoruko_: System Monitor = gnome-system-monitor?
[18:02] <kaoruko_> Ah..
[18:02] <kaoruko_> Didn't catch that o-o
[18:02] <zack6849-phone> Ermmm
[18:02] <zack6849-phone> I screwed up
[18:03] <zack6849-phone> I was playing around with display settings
[18:03] <kaoruko_> I can't change my nick o-o
[18:03] <TJ-> zack6849: the fglx main tracker bug #873058
[18:03] <nur_> i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 , 64 bit , usb bootable, if i boot from usb it asks for login and pass WHY??????
[18:03] <zack6849-phone> And they both went blank
[18:03] <TJ-> zack6849: Stop playing around then! :D
[18:03] <kaoruko_> Nur: Have you tried to burn it to a DVD?
[18:03] <zack6849-phone> I waited thinking it would fix in 30 seconds
[18:03] <zack6849-phone> And it didnt
[18:03] <zack6849-phone> so what do I do
[18:04] <TJ-> zack6849: restart it?
[18:04] <zack6849-phone> That'll work?
[18:04] <john515> probably
[18:04] <TJ-> zack6849: dunno but it's worth a try!
[18:04] <kaoruko_> I had issues with isnatalling from USB (errno 5) But it worked when I burnt the .ISO directly to a DVD with Astroburn
[18:04] <john515> yeap, boot it
[18:04] <zack6849-phone> Booting
[18:05] <john515> aw cool, I found a WoL over internet
[18:05] <zack6849-phone> Well
[18:05] <john515> now I can wake the server anywhere :P
[18:05] <zack6849-phone> KINDA worked
[18:06] <zack6849-phone> There we gp
[18:06] <Odra> Can someone test this for me? http://code.google.com/p/chrono-marker/ thanks.
[18:06] <zack6849-phone> *go
[18:06] <john515> zack, it worked?
[18:06] <zack6849-phone> Yes
[18:06] <john515> : )
[18:06] <nur_> i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 , 64 bit , usb bootable, if i boot from usb it asks for login and pass WHY??????
[18:07] <zack6849> okay so TJ-  now what do i do about the ddrivers?
[18:07] <kaoruko_> Nur_ Did you use the USB extraction tool to copy it to your drive? :0
[18:07] <john515> anyhow, gonna take a break for now.. might come over and hang around again ;)
[18:07] <john515> special thanks to tj
[18:07] <nur_> yes
[18:08] <kaoruko_> Hm..
[18:08] <nur_> im installing ubuntu now via ubuntu installer
[18:08] <nur_> in windows
[18:08] <TJ-> john515: Enjoy!
[18:08] <nur_> what is installation size??
[18:08] <sam101> hi im just a beginner so bare with me i want to create a website its going to be a forum on the website and want to manage the server under ubuntu server but im wondering how do i create the website if there is no graphical interface in ubuntu server
[18:08] <Odra> nur_: About 700 MB
[18:08] <nur_> i selected 18 gig
[18:08] <kaoruko_> When you boot; do you have an Ubuntu BIOS-style screen to choose from?
[18:08] <nur_> Odra:
[18:09] <TJ-> zack6849: I saw mention on that bug report of users manually installing the Catalyst drivers from AMD, but you'd have to carefully research that on the Ubuntu forums for decent trustable instructions, I think
[18:09] <yousafse> hi all
[18:09] <zack6849> you mean the install .run file?
[18:09] <zack6849> i downloaded that and was told specifically NOT to run it earlier
[18:10] <peterrus> sam101, ubuntu server has no graphical interface by default
[18:10] <peterrus> so all configuration would have to be done through the terminal
[18:10] <peterrus> if you dont feel you are up to that already
[18:10] <peterrus> just install the regular ubuntu
[18:10] <peterrus> it can do exactly the same as the server install can
[18:10] <peterrus> + the graphical environment
[18:10] <yousafse> I am new to ubuntu, how do I setup a vhost?
[18:11] <peterrus> although there aren't too much graphical configuration tools for the apache webserver (there might be, never used them though) file managing is a lot easier
[18:11] <TJ-> zack6849: Because it gets installed outside the ubuntu package system and may well conflict with the packages later. But if you want it to work, that may be the only way. These things are very difficult because you could be storing up trouble for later. Hard for me to recommend what to do because I'm not in front of that machine
[18:11] <kaoruko_> Sam101: You may want to check this out? :http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-server.html
[18:11] <peterrus> if you come from a windows environment
[18:11] <yousafse> i am trying to follow this installation https://bugify.com/faq
[18:11] <zack6849> i essentially just want my dual screens to work!
[18:11] <zack6849> its currenty using mirroring
[18:11] <peterrus> kaoruko_, Sam101, you can do that indeed, but also just use regular ubuntu, the core is the same
[18:11] <zack6849> which i despise
[18:12] <sam101> no im asking if i used ubuntu server what would i use to create my webiste
[18:12] <TJ-> peterrus: I use VirtualMin with Webmin, it's flawless and very easy to create yet another virtual host on new domains or sub-domains, etc.
[18:12] <kaoruko_> HTML, CSS, PHP, JS..
[18:12] <kaoruko_> Sam101: You know any scripting languages?
[18:12] <peterrus> TJ-, yousafse  ;) try that
[18:12] <Hillshum> sam101: Apache, nginx...
[18:12] <vivekimsit> Is there any way to switch b/w terminals using the command line?
[18:12] <sam101> yeah some html
[18:12] <greenit> is it possible to copy the files from a bootable iso to an usb-stick and make this stick bootable? if yes, plz tell me how :S
[18:12] <sam101> and a little bit of css
[18:13] <zack6849> greenit,  universal usb bootmaker
[18:13] <Hillshum> greenit: What OS are you on?
[18:13] <zack6849> or something like that
[18:13] <zack6849> cant rember the exact name
[18:13] <peterrus> zack6849, greenit unetbootin
[18:13] <zack6849> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick/
[18:13] <kaoruko_> Sam101:  Just learn some solid skills and practice them :P
[18:13] <peterrus> true that
[18:14] <zack6849> yes peterrus?
[18:14] <kaoruko_> Google Chrome has the best support for HTML and CSS right now; I use that; but its your choice
[18:14] <sam101> ok thanks
[18:14] <greenit> Hillshum, i am on ubuntu, but i want to install the gentoo-minimal.iso on an usb-stick
[18:14] <kaoruko_> Also: if you want some good tutorials; try w3schools tutorials.
[18:14] <TJ-> vivekimsit: Ctrl+Alt+ F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 etc.
[18:14] <yousafse> peterrus i got plesk
[18:14] <kaoruko_> I learned what I know from there and from inspecting source codes in various websites.  :D
[18:16] <zack6849> tj, are there any kind of drivers that should work and just let me use dual screens?
[18:16] <unitysucks> any takers?  i've google my face off and can't find anything that applies
[18:16] <sam101> if i wanted to upload somehing like a picture or file could you do that within ubuntu server or apache
[18:17] <TJ-> zack6849: For AMD I'm not sure, I've not used ATI stuff in ages
[18:17] <unitysucks> remmina is a piece of garbage, and i want to use gnome-rdp, but i can only launch it from command line
[18:17] <unitysucks> have tried to make normal shortcuts, but i can't even do that
[18:17] <TJ-> unitysucks: Could you create a .desktop launcher for it? Maybe it already installs one you can link to
[18:18] <fishbait> when i show all workspaces (i have dual monitors.) the middle is off center how do i adjust this? (fglrx graphics)
[18:18] <unitysucks> can you link me to a .desktop launcher tutorial?  everything i'm used to doing doesn't work anymore in 12.04
[18:18] <unitysucks> i'm not happy with this release, big step back imo
[18:19] <unitysucks> all the panels are locked, no create shortcut in the right click menu
[18:19] <sam101> how do you upload files if your using ubuntu server with kvm
[18:19] <unitysucks> i don't get wtf they were thinking, its completely retarded
[18:19] <TJ-> unitysucks: I see that gnome-rdp doesn't ship with a .desktop file. What's even more surprising is it ships a ".exe" file!!
[18:19] <fishbait> unitysucks: if you don't like unity theres always gnome-session-fallback or kde of ldm or any number of other guis just fyi
[18:20] <TJ-> !language
[18:20] <unitysucks> i'm using gnome classic right now
[18:20] <unitysucks> but its not, it just looks like it
[18:21] <unitysucks> TJ-, o
[18:21] <unitysucks> i'd use anything but remmina
[18:21] <unitysucks> remmina is the definition of garbage, i can't believe it made it into a lts distro
[18:22] <chmac> Is there a "default" password manager? Like rhythmbox / totem for audio / video for example...
[18:22] <bakarat> I have a netbook that is not powerful enough to play my mkv files without stuttering. Is there a way to do the heavy lifting on a desktop and stream the resulting video feed to the laptop?
[18:23] <TJ-> bakarat: You could use VLC for that
[18:23] <bakarat> TJ-, ah, will have a look, thanks
[18:23] <samcoldham1> If i am ubuntu server how do i upload pictures and files with ubuntu server with kvm
[18:24] <jacta> how to mount a usb drive that didnt do it itself? its /dev/sdb1
[18:24] <TJ-> samcoldham1: you could use SSH copy (scp) or even sshfs to mount the server's file-system on your localhost
[18:24] <steven_> hsudo thunar!!!!!
[18:24] <unitysucks> TJ-, what do you use for rdp needs?"
[18:25] <TJ-> unitysucks: Why would I need RDP?
[18:25] <steven_> sudo thunar broo
[18:25] <TJ-> unitysucks: anything remote, it's SSH
[18:25] <fishbait_> i have dual monitors on radeon HD 6670(fglrx) but when i show all workspaces the middle is off-center how do i fix this?
[18:25] <zykotick9> steven_: use gksudo with gui apps!
[18:25] <vivekimsit> TJ-: I am opening the diff tabs in the single terminal, and I want to switch b/w the tabs.
[18:25] <samcoldham1> would it be ok to install gnome with ubuntu server
[18:25] <unitysucks> TJ-, you must not administer 300 terminal server sessions on windows then :)
[18:26] <TJ-> vivekimsit: oh, you mean in the GUI terminal... I don't know that you can. that would be an application function
[18:27] <TJ-> unitysucks: I got out of that mess years ago, but if you're doing that why aren't you using TSM for MOM?
[18:27] <unitysucks> TJ-, too many acronyms google isn't helping
[18:27] <unitysucks> but i wuld guess the answer is i don't know about it
[18:27] <unitysucks> mom?
[18:27] <quick-> hi i have ubuntu 12.04 and i would like to channge the grub waiting time . Please help me how to do it
[18:27] <jacta> thanks for the help :p
[18:28] <TJ-> unitysucks: Terminal Services Manager
[18:28] <peterrus> unity is boss
[18:28] <peterrus> oh lets not start this discussion XD
[18:29] <peterrus> we all agree to disagree
[18:29] <TJ-> quick-: edit the /etc/default/grub file then do update-grub
[18:29] <yousafse> what is the save command in ubuntu?
[18:30] <meo> hi, iam trying to install ubuntu 12 64bit from usb but i get stuck at device-mapper : dm-raid45 initialized v0.2594b    i did not find what to do...
[18:31] <unitysucks> TJ-, that one i knew :P
[18:31] <unitysucks> i mean mom?
[18:32] <erfu> Hello. I have two wireless cards installed. One PCI and one USB. I want to use the USB card, but Ubuntu insists on using the PCI card when I connect to a network. How can I deactivate the PCI card, or simply make Ubuntu use the USB card?
[18:32] <erfu> Im on 12.04
[18:33] <atrika> Hi ubuntu, I've installed eclipse-jdt and the IDE validates, but does not autocomplete. Is there anyone that knows how to fix this ? Thank you.
[18:33] <steven__> ssudo thunar..4
[18:34] <unitysucks> uhg whatever, i am just appauled at how crappy ubuntu has become since 10.04.  i'm heading back to gentoo or something else at high speed.  with the latest distro i might as well be on windows
[18:34] <atrika> erfu, i think you could use ifconfig "name of your pci card" down
[18:34] <mbeierl> unitysucks, you can also try xubuntu
[18:34] <atrika> he left
[18:34] <mbeierl> atrika, so he did.  too bad.
[18:34] <steven__> Ubuntu Xfce is way easier and better that unity
[18:35] <quick-> TJ  i did but still its not working
[18:35] <TJ-> quick-: Which waiting time are you referring to?
[18:36] <quick-> the initial waiting time which it give to choose in case of a dual boot .
[18:36] <quick-> TJ-: the initial waiting time which it give to choose in case of a dual boot .
[18:36] <TJ-> quick-: which VARIABLE in /etc/default/grub did you change
[18:36] <fishbait_> i have dual monitors on radeon HD 6670(fglrx) but when i show all workspaces the middle is off-center how do i fix this?
[18:37] <vivekimsit>  TJ-:  So, you and me have to just use mouse to switch b/ tabs?
[18:37] <quick-> TJ-:  i changed GRU_TIMEOUT
[18:37] <erfu> atrika, thanks for the tip, Im going to try
[18:37] <quick-> TJ-:  i changed GRU_TIMEOUT
[18:37] <quick-> TJ-: sorry ,  i changed GRUB_TIMEOUT
[18:38] <atrika> erfu, get the interface with "ifconfig" and then write "ifconfig <name of interface> down"
[18:38] <atrika> but htis will put your pci card offline
[18:38] <TJ-> vivekimsit: In Terminal, if you look at the Tabs menu, you'll see it says to use Ctrl+PgDn and Ctrl+PgUp to move between the tabs
[18:38] <steven__> Ctrl arrow bro
[18:38] <W4sp> atrika: Did you create a new java project and have you also created a file within that project. I don't have Eclipse in front of me but I believe it requires another 'update' from 'Tools' menu. Also, have you everything installed in wherever/eclipse?
[18:38] <TJ-> quick-: OK, and you also followed that with "sudo update-grub" ?
[18:38] <ariana> a
[18:38] <Jordan_U> quick-: What did you change it to, did you run update-grub after changing it, and what timeout do you currently actually get at the grub menu?
[18:39] <W4sp> atrika: I'm not the most qualified person on this and have this actually on a Mac but the IDE and its behaviour should be the same.
[18:39] <vivekimsit>  TJ-:  thanks!
[18:39] <quick-> TJ-: i followed it with sudo update-grub
[18:39] <Teshub> Hi everyone. I can seem to get my bluetooth working on my Asus N61JQ laptop. It's not supported out of the box, I know.
[18:39] <louiemat> can you see a problem with this reply -  sudo dpkg -i esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.1.1-2_amd64.deb - after entering my password I recieve a message - error processing esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.1.1-2_amd64.deb (--install)
[18:39] <Teshub> can't*
[18:40] <quick-> Jordan_U: -:  i changed GRUB_TIMEOUT to 10 but the time is still 0 i guess
[18:40] <bey> hola
[18:40] <bey> que ondas como estan?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> quick-: Do you have more than one OS on this machine?
[18:40] <TJ-> quick-: In /boot/grub/grub.cfg (the script that grub actually 'executes') there's a code stanza that will make the timeout unlimited if there was a failed boot previously: if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
[18:40] <TJ->   set timeout=-1
[18:40] <TJ-> else
[18:40] <TJ->   set timeout=10
[18:40] <TJ-> fi
[18:40] <FloodBot1> TJ-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40]  * TJ- spanks self for forgetting
[18:41] <W4sp> atrika: In addition to the above, you may need to make your $PATH available and if you have just installed you may need to log out and back in as eclipse is probably not treated as Exec login shell. Just a thought.
[18:42] <W4sp> !pm | atrika
[18:42] <zack6849> tj, how do i run a .run file?
[18:42] <quick-> Jordan_U:  yes i do
[18:42] <bey> hello all
[18:42] <Teshub> Anyone have any idea? (c/p of same message: Hi everyone. I can't seem to get my bluetooth working on my Asus N61JQ laptop. It's not supported out of the box, I know.)
[18:42] <Jordan_U> quick-: What other OS? What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[18:42] <TJ-> zack6849: run it :p you may need to set its executable flag with "chmod a+x file.run" first, then you can just run it
[18:43] <quick-> TJ-:  its already there and the timeout is 28
[18:43] <zack6849> of course..
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Teshub  did you install blueman?
[18:43] <Teshub> No, I haven't. Should I?
[18:43] <quick-> Jordan_U: its Windows on sda1
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> Teshub  yeah
[18:44] <ariana> any idea how to tether WIFI connection by android device? I mean creating AP by andro phone and sharing WIFI connection, something like repeating of wifi towards another device. Any ideas?
[18:44] <zack6849> it said an earlyer flgrx thing was lready installed
[18:44] <zack6849> how would i uninstall that?
[18:45] <ariana> zack6849, sudo apt-get remove?
[18:45] <TJ-> zack6849: That's probably the mess that jockey has left behind :(
[18:45] <Jordan_U> quick-: What is the exact output (if any) of "sudo os-prober"?
[18:45] <zack6849> nay ideas as to how to fix it tj?
[18:45] <Teshub> MonkeyDust: The entire window is grayed out - I should have said that the the OS (12.04 LTS) doesn't detect the adapter at all
[18:45] <zack6849> ariana, im retarted with ubuntu, i have absolutley no idea what the package for that would even be
[18:46] <quick-> Jordan_U: its /dev.sda1:windows 7 (loader):windows:chain
[18:46] <TJ-> zack6849: araina has the best idea. Identify the package name(s) "dpkg-query -l '*fglx*' " then use "apt-get --purge remove <package>"
[18:46] <Jordan_U> quick-: What do you see when you boot?
[18:47] <Pici> TJ-: its 'fglrx'
[18:47] <W4sp> This is one fine example about slugsy documentation. This should not happen in Ubuntu and without a man page it should not find its way to releases.
[18:47] <zack6849> tj, when i enter dpkg-query -l '*fglx* it just gives me a prompt
[18:47] <zack6849> no info
[18:47] <TJ-> Pici: lol yeah... zack... correct my typo!
[18:47] <TJ-> zack6849: That's because you're not typing the closing single-quote
[18:47] <Teshub> I ran "lsusb -v" but couldn't find any bluetooth adapters. I know this laptop has one though, so that's not the problem.
[18:47] <steven__> why cant we use oovoo in ubuntu???
[18:47] <TJ-> zack6849: "dpkg-query -l '*fglrx*' " then use "apt-get --purge remove <package>"
[18:48] <quick-> Jordan_U:  the multiboot menu which had ubuntu loader , recovery mode , windows chain loader etc
[18:48] <zack6849> 0_0
[18:48] <TJ-> Teshub: Maybe the rfkill is on? or it might be a PCI device?
[18:48] <steven__> why cant we use oovoo in ubuntu??
[18:48] <steven__> why cant we use oovoo in ubuntu??
[18:48] <Jordan_U> quick-: So you do see the grub menu at boot? How long do you see the grub menu if you don't press any key?
[18:49] <Teshub> TJ-: The what? I should've said that I have second to no experience with Linux. :p
[18:49] <zack6849> http://pastebin.com/SGshxQUK
[18:50] <TJ-> Teshub: Many laptops have a hardware switch to control power to the bluetooth and/or wifi radios. They can sometimes prevent the bluetooth adapter even being recognised
[18:50] <Teshub> TJ-: And I believe that the Bluetooth radio is shared with the WiFi adapter. I mean, if I disable the WiFi with the switch on the side, the bluetooth is gone as well.
[18:50] <Teshub> TJ-: lol. Yeah, that's turned on. I'm on WiFi right now.
[18:51] <TJ-> Teshub: That sounds about right, so it isn't that then. I've Googled and can't see anyone else reporting any bluetooth problem so I'm guessing this could be unique to you
[18:51] <meo> so i created new bootable usb with ubuntu 12 32bit, but same problem, i cant run ubuntu or install it. get always stuck at device-mapper : dm-raid45 initialized v0.2594b
[18:51] <davidrsmorris> steven__: It doesn't look like it was released for linux.  You might try running the windows version under wine, but you'll spend a long time setting it up.  You should see if the other people using it could use Skype or eckiga instead.
[18:51] <TJ-> zack6849: "sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx-update"
[18:51] <Teshub> TJ-: Yeah, ofcourse I've googled this situation but couldn't find anything.
[18:51] <quick-> Jordan_U: it just comes and goes off like a splash
[18:52] <davidrsmorris> Does anyone here use Awesome wm with both Delightful and other widgets?  I can't figure out how to get other things in the wibox...
[18:52] <TJ-> Teshub: Do you know for sure if it is connected via USB? Could it be via the PCI bus ("lspci -nn")
[18:52] <Teshub> TJ-: could be. I'm going to check that out right now.
[18:52] <Jordan_U> quick-: Is this in a virtual machine or a real one?
[18:52] <quick-> Jordan_U:  real one
[18:52] <xmltok> i am trying to install ubuntu onto an intel raid which is dm-0, the problem is the chroot /target grub-install etc.. is run without /target/proc mounted and so grub does not see the dm-0 devices. if i chroot in there and mount /proc, it succeeds.
[18:52] <zack6849> TJ, SHOULD IT SAY ANYTHING AFTERWARDS?
[18:53] <zack6849> BECAUSE IT DIDNT PUTPUT ANYTHING
[18:53] <zack6849> oops
[18:53] <zack6849> caps
[18:53] <zack6849> apologies
[18:53] <FloodBot1> zack6849: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:53] <TJ-> zack6849: apt-get should tell you what it's going to remove, yes
[18:53] <zack6849> it said nothing
[18:53] <zack6849> after entering sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx-update
[18:53] <Jordan_U> zack6849: If you set GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1 then the menu should display indefinitely. Can you test that?
[18:54] <davidrsmorris> steven__: Oh, you might try the facebook oovoo app, but flash isn't supported anymore so ymmv.
[18:54] <zack6849> it just says thithing
[18:54] <TJ-> zack6849: that is rather weird! can you do "sudo apt-get update"  to update the package lists
[18:54] <Teshub> TJ-: If I execute that command I get flooded with information. I grep'd that with "Ath" and got 2 hits, the WiFi adapter and the Ethernet adapter. No Bluetooth or anything.
[18:54] <WhaleProbe2> hello. i bought my computer used from someone. unfortunately, they chose a really poor network name for it. is there a way i can change it?
[18:54] <zack6849> i did sudo apt-get update
[18:54] <TJ-> Teshub: Can you copy it to a pastebin for me? you could do "lspci -nn > lspci.log"
[18:55] <Jordan_U> !hostname | WhaleProbe2
[18:55] <zack6849> nothing was printed to the client
[18:55] <TJ-> zack6849: OK, its sounding like you've got something really messed up on that system!
[18:55] <zack6849> also
[18:55] <zack6849> what the heck is this
[18:55] <zack6849>  GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[18:55] <WhaleProbe2> Jordan_U, thanks!
[18:55] <FloodBot1> zack6849: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <Jordan_U> WhaleProbe2: You're welcome.
[18:55] <TJ-> zack6849: I don't know, where did you find it? :p
[18:56] <zack6849> Jordan_U, told me to put it in
 zack6849: If you set GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1 then the menu should display indefinitely. Can you test that?
[18:56] <Teshub> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/q5nEdLU0
[18:56] <TJ-> zack6849: I think that was aimed at quick-
[18:56] <zack6849> oh wow
[18:56] <steven__> YOUNG MULA BABEE
[18:56] <zack6849> okay
[18:56] <fishbait_> i have dual monitors on radeon HD 6670(fglrx) but when i show all workspaces the middle is off-center how do i fix this?
[18:56] <zack6849> the update went through now
[18:56] <pedahzur> Does anyone know why the mysql-query-browser and mysql-admin packages are no longer in 12.04? Is there another package that has replaced them?
[18:57] <zack6849> i rebooted terminal
[18:57] <TJ-> Teshub: thanks... can you do the same for "lsusb" ?
[18:57] <Jordan_U> zack6849: Sorry, my comment was indeed meant for quick-
[18:57] <zack6849> zack@zackubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx-update
[18:57] <zack6849> Reading package lists... Done
[18:57] <zack6849> Building dependency tree
[18:57] <zack6849> Reading state information... Done
[18:57] <zack6849> E: Unable to locate package fglrx-update
[18:57] <FloodBot1> zack6849: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <Teshub> lsusb only shows a few lines. I'm pretty sure that's not all there is...
[18:58] <novinha> wait
[18:58] <KaorukoLee> Can anyone reccomend some decent free games? I can't find any :s
[18:58] <TJ-> zack6849: "sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx-updates"  ... there's an S on the end... sorry, another typo!
[18:58] <TJ-> Teshub: I'm trying to get a feel for what IS there
[18:58] <zykotick9> TJ-: fyi "apt-get purge foo" is a shorter to type...
[18:59] <TJ-> KaorukoLee: Twister!
[18:59] <zack6849> alright
[18:59] <zack6849> it worked TJ-
[18:59] <davidrsmorris> KaorukoLee: if you apt-get install sudoku, you'll get a nice little Curses-based sudoku game.
[18:59] <KaorukoLee> Is it offline-compatible? :3
[18:59] <TJ-> zykotick9: I know, but I like to express the full options to get people thinking about commands
[18:59] <Jordan_U> KaorukoLee: I like Xmoto.
[18:59] <Teshub> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ZbkENcPc
[19:00] <KaorukoLee> Davidrmorris: I love Sudoko o-o
[19:00] <Teshub> TJ-: But it's not the Microsoft thing - that's my mouse.
[19:00] <davidrsmorris> KaorukoLee: sudoku (which can generate and export puzzles), works offline.  It's saved me from dire boredom.
[19:01] <KaorukoLee> Oh; I have a question; quite dumb really.
[19:01] <KaorukoLee> Would I be able to create an AD-HOC network and be able to multiplay minecraft with say, my brother?
[19:01] <kalantir> Hello
[19:01] <TJ-> Teshub: I'm devious... from what you just gave me I was able to Google the webcam ID, find an Ubuntu bug report about that system, and look at the kernel boot log attached to that bug report :)
[19:02] <KaorukoLee> Since the newest update.. I havent been able to try yet though
[19:02] <zack6849> TJ-,  same error as earlier about a pre-existing installatuin
[19:02] <TJ-> zack6849: there's also the control panel to be removed... hang on a mo
[19:03] <kalantir> Could I convince one of you fine gentlemen to answer a question I have about installing from a live usb with persistence?
[19:03] <KaorukoLee> Uhm.. what's the command to extract a tar.gz file? :0
[19:03] <TJ-> Teshub: Can you pastebin the "/var/log/dmesg" log for me please?
[19:03] <rhqq> hey. I've added ppa via add-apt-repository, but i still get "warning, the following packages cannot be auth", ubuntu 10.04 lts, where should i google for issue?
[19:03] <Teshub> TJ-: Ofcourse
[19:04] <Weird98GuY> the bar on top of the screen that says applications, system, etc is invisible. how do i make it visible?
[19:04] <subz3r0> unity?
[19:05] <subz3r0> open a terminal and type: unity --reset
[19:05] <davidrsmorris> KaorukoLee: you'll use gzip and tar, not sure what args.
[19:05] <kalantir> Currently, Ubuntu 12.04 does not have any working wireless drivers for my laptop so I installed working b43 drivers into my live usb. Now I want to know... when I install from the usb to my hard drive, will the installer have access to the drivers I installed on the usb?
[19:05] <KaorukoLee> I downloaded a torrent tar.gz game; but I have no idea how to install it o-o
[19:05] <Weird98GuY> k ty
[19:05] <Jordan_U> KaorukoLee: What are you actually trying to install?
[19:05] <davidrsmorris> KaorukoLee: it'll be a source package, it will have a readme.
[19:05] <TJ-> zack6849: "sudo apt-get purge fglrx-amdcccle-updates"
[19:05] <KaorukoLee> Warsow :0
[19:05] <subz3r0> broadcom 43xx makes problems in several circumstances
[19:06] <KaorukoLee> It's a cartoony shooter or something o-o
[19:06] <KaorukoLee> And yes; it was a free game..
[19:06] <Teshub> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/BWqfJKTq
[19:06] <Weird98GuY> how do i open a terminal
[19:06] <TJ-> Teshub: Thanks, looking
[19:06] <Teshub> TJ-: Sorry that took a while. Had to copy and chown it and everything...
[19:07] <W4sp> Weird98GuY: Ctrl+Alt+t
[19:07] <Weird98GuY> Thanks
[19:07] <cndiv> Hey #ubuntu, quick question. I support a few Ubuntu machines at work, but fairly frequently I run into issues I can't solve myself. Is there some sort of consulting group I can pay for additional resources? I know Canonical has their 'advantage' program but there are hardly any machines that are 'certified.'
[19:08] <manuel__> hi
[19:08] <kalantir> to unpack a tar.gz its "tar xzf filename.tar.gz" without the quotes
[19:08] <someUbUser> Hello, does anyone know how to type a low german quotation mark, without using cut and paste? I can't work out the compose key sequence
[19:08] <TJ-> Teshub: And now pastebin results of this as long as you don't get a 'not found' error: "ls -l /sys/class/bluetooth/hci0/"
[19:08] <Jordan_U> KaorukoLee: Download the .deb file for Ubuntu 12.04 and just double click it to install.
[19:09] <manuel__> hi
[19:09] <manuel__> HI
[19:09] <davidrsmorris> manuel__: go ahead with your question.  Introductions are not customary on irc.
[19:09] <TJ-> Teshub: Tip: there's a utility called pastebinit should be installed. You can pipe stdout to it to do things like : "ls -l /sys/class/bluetooth/hci0/ > pastebinit"
[19:10] <steven__> Theseus
[19:10] <steven__> prummmm
[19:10] <steven__> sudo thunar! extract there
[19:10] <zack6849-phone> My whole screen froze
[19:10] <zack6849-phone> Is there a ctrl alt del equivalent on ubuntu?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> !reisub | zack6849-phone
[19:11] <kalantir> So do any of you have experience installing from live usb with persistence?
[19:11] <zack6849-phone> J
[19:11] <zack6849-phone> K
[19:12] <Teshub> TJ-: I don't even need to pastebin that - ls -l /sys/class/bluetooth/hci0/ > pastebinit ls: cannot access /sys/class/bluetooth/hci0/: No such file or directory
[19:12] <TJ-> Teshub: Oh... OK, check the parent dir: "ls -l /sys/class/bluetooth/" ... anything there at all?
[19:13] <harovali> hi, a machine here has Ubuntu 12.04 installed. It has been working fin for the last four months, in a 'routine' office environment. One day, the boot process stopped working, the booting splash screen turns violet, and stays there forever. I fsck'd the partitions. I even apt-get upgrade'd using the rescue menu. However, the graphics login screen does not appear. What can it be?
[19:13] <zack6849-phone> Also what's 'berg' or 'burg'
[19:13] <zack6849-phone> Somone reccomended it
[19:13] <Teshub> Nope, empty.
[19:13] <someUbUser> additionaly - trying to use the listed compose-comma-apostrophe yields, ç the moment I press ,
[19:13] <Manta> so I was thinking it would be nice if ubuntu had a snap to grid feature for all opened windows... how would you do that?
[19:13] <Jordan_U> zack6849-phone: An abandoned fork of GRUB, it's not supported at all and not recommended.
[19:13] <rhqq> how to make PPA trusted permanently?
[19:14] <TJ-> Teshub: Have you previously used the bluetooth on that laptop?
[19:14] <Manta> So that is not something that could be implemented in the current unity layout
[19:15] <Teshub> TJ-: Not on Ubuntu. I can't remember whether I've used it on Windows... this poor thing has been unused for a 1,5 years now.. ;(
[19:16] <TJ-> Teshub: Well the kernel isn't finding any hardware for bluetooth at all. The only thing I can think, is it needs some special firmware loading to active it, or else its on a daughter board inside the laptop and has become unplugged somehow
[19:17] <Teshub> TJ-: I doubt that it'd be real hardware problems, since the wifi and the bluetooth seem to have at the very least -some- shared hardware.
[19:17] <kalantir> I have a Kubuntu 12.04 live usb with persistence set up. I have installed some drivers and applications and was wondering if those would carry over to a hard drive install
[19:18] <Teshub> TJ-: So ... what do you suggest? Install Windows, check if it actually works at all? I was hoping to avoid that, obviously...
[19:19] <TJ-> Teshub: Well its a bit drastic but there's definitely something very wrong.
[19:19] <JeffBauer> hey guys.. how much may cost a customized distro?
[19:20] <JeffBauer> i mean, i need a customized distro and i'll pay for that service
[19:20] <TJ-> Teshub: One last thing... see if there are any bluetooth daemon messages in the logs: "grep ' HCI' /var/log/syslog"
[19:21] <zack_> how do you take a screenshot on ubuntu?
[19:21] <TJ-> Teshub: From what I can tell its a BCM2070 (that's Broadcom) module
[19:21] <Dot_> Hey
[19:21] <Dot_> Anyone here?
[19:22] <davidrsmorris> Dot_: Go ahead and ask your question.  Introductions are not customary on IRC.
[19:22] <soliloquy> The last time I used Ubuntu, we were back at Gnome 2.0…. now there's Unity and Gnome Shell and god knows-what. I theme quite heavily and have always used Compiz when I was using Linux & build my own GTK themes… Anyone care to talk to me about my options now that Gnome 3 isn't friends w/ compiz?
[19:22] <Dot_> Ok
[19:22] <Teshub> TJ-: Just a few times: "Device and connection manager initialized" and "socket layer initialized"
[19:23] <Dot_> I just installed Ubuntu, and right after I rebooted, my computer screen is stuck on a purple screen with a bunch of pink text.
[19:23] <TJ-> Teshub: oh dear. If the hardware is found you'd see something like "HCI dev 0 up"
[19:23] <subz3r0> Do not use cccsm with unity or gnome shell
[19:23] <datacide> Greetings, I am trying to get the seamonkey client installed on my OS, can anyone help?
[19:23] <davidrsmorris> Dot_: When the pink text stops, what does it say?
[19:23] <Dot_> ...what?
[19:23] <soliloquy> subz3rO: cccsm? meaning???
[19:23] <subz3r0> ccsm
[19:24] <Teshub> TJ-: Agh.. Ok.. Okay, well. That means I have to buy a seperate bluetooth stick?
[19:24] <soliloquy> what does it do?
[19:24] <TJ-> Teshub: The only thing I can think is there's an RFKILL or as I said the module has been disturbed. I'm downloading a repair manual for that model now to see what the BT module is
[19:24] <shanlar> with cloud-init, do i have to specify my cloud-config in the user data or is it possible to leave user-data blank and have cloud-init always use a static cloud-config file?
[19:24] <Teshub> TJ-: Ohh, okay. Awesome. :)
[19:24] <subz3r0> "CompizConfig Settings Manager"
[19:24] <zykotick9> !ccsm | soliloquy this can be used with Unity (but not ALL features)
[19:24] <Dot_> [       30.608014]   [<ffffffff81664a482] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
[19:24] <Dot_> It's stuck with a bunch of lines like that ^
[19:25] <L3top> !nomodeset | Dot_ see if this is helpful.
[19:25] <subz3r0> zykotick9, maybe you should tell him to, that he can **** up his whole unity with it
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[19:25] <subz3r0> *too
[19:25] <Dot_> oh.
[19:25] <soliloquy> subz3r0: So don't use Compiz with Unity either?? I thought Unity was compiz-based?
[19:25] <Dot_> I forgot about that.
[19:25] <Dot_> That's why I didn't install it earlier =/
[19:25] <zykotick9> soliloquy: it is...
[19:26] <subz3r0> compiz is part of it
[19:26] <subz3r0> but not the CCSM
[19:26] <harovali> how can I fix an ubuntu 12.04 which hangs booting the graphics environment? However, if I press esc , I get a text prompt
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> unity3d is a compiz plugin
[19:26] <subz3r0> harovali, try unity --reset
[19:26] <harovali> I upgraded --fix-missing
[19:26] <datacide> How can I install seamonkey?
[19:26] <leoleon> somebody uses a free ERP
[19:26] <soliloquy> so how do you configure Compiz then if you can't use ccsm? The last time I used Compiz, it was called Beryl, if that helps at all.
[19:26] <subz3r0> datacide, sudo apt-get install seamonkey?
[19:26] <harovali> subz3r0: from the maintenance command line ?
[19:27] <leoleon> somebody uses a open source ERP
[19:27] <subz3r0> soliloquy, you can use it, but if you do the wrong config it will brake your unity
[19:27] <datacide> subz3r0, Why don't you try and see what happens?
[19:27] <Dot_> ok
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> find a ppa if its not in the repos
[19:27] <datacide> To save me the pastebin
[19:27] <Dot_> The problem might have been because it's a really old computer and the card wasn't compatiable
[19:27] <subz3r0> datacide, why should i try that? i wasnt the guy who asked for that..
[19:28] <Dot_> But would it work on an HP Pavillion? Win7, 64 bit, Vision AMD...?
[19:28] <soliloquy> subz3r0: Okay, sooo if I want to play with Compiz /at all/ then Unity isn't the answer either? So if not Unity and not Gnome Shell but I want a GTK desktop, what other options do I have?
[19:28] <datacide> subz3r0, because you have no idea what you are talking about
[19:28] <subz3r0> datacide, ahh yes. so tell me. im very curious
[19:28] <Teshub> Guys, guys. Let's keep it civil? :)
[19:29] <datacide> subz3r0, Don't give advice if you don't know the answer
[19:29] <Dot_> Anyone?
[19:29] <subz3r0> datacide, in other words, its not possible to make ur unity crash when using ccsm?
[19:29] <subz3r0> ridiculous statement
[19:29] <subz3r0> anyway, this is ot...
[19:29] <L3top> Dot_: every chipset is different. Chances are it will work.
[19:29] <davidrsmorris> Dot_: a 64bit machine is not old.
[19:29] <subz3r0> datacide, u do.
[19:29] <datacide> I am looking to install seamonkey, anyone?
[19:29] <Dot_> davidrsmorris, I'm talking about a newer laptop I might try it on now.
[19:30] <subz3r0> not able to install seamonkey but tellin me shiat
[19:30] <subz3r0> funny
[19:30] <Dot_> The other one is an old acer shitbox, thick enough to stop a bullet.
[19:30] <L3top> Dot_: again, nomodeset kernel boot param might solve your issue, and watch the language.
[19:30] <davidrsmorris> Dot_: Well if it has a gig of ram, it should be more than enough.
[19:30] <Dot_> Sorry
[19:30] <savio> in ubuntu 12.04 why hibernate option is disable
[19:30] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, is that possible?
[19:30] <subz3r0> soliloquy, just try it.
[19:31] <Dot_> davidrsmorris, 700MB of RAM... hehe
[19:31] <OerHeks> datacide, http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> savio:  is your swap bigger then your ram?
[19:31] <savio> let me check
[19:31] <datacide> OerHeks, It i snot in the ubuntu repository any more
[19:32] <savio> yah
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> hibernate requires swap at least as big as ram.. a little bigger it better
[19:32] <OerHeks> datacide, i know.
[19:32] <Dot_> How can I uninstall Ubuntu?
[19:32] <Dot_> Now that I know it doesn't work =/
[19:32] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: hibernate is disabled (by default) in 12.04 - it can be turned back on somehow (i can't find the factoid, but i believe there is one)
[19:32] <savio> rem is1913220 and swap is 3004412
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> Dot_:  reformat the partitions
[19:32] <mbeierl> Dot_, it is a full partition.  just remove the partition
[19:32] <Dot_> So... in noob terms that means?
[19:32] <subz3r0> datacide, just one link for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92079/ccsm-broke-my-unity-3d-on-11-10  next time before you act like the allmighty individual u better shhhhhhh...
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Dot_  delete the partition
[19:32] <L3top> Dot_: I am sure it works fine... you are just unwilling to enter a simple boot parameter.
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> i thought that was suspend.. or am i backwards again
[19:32] <Teshub> TJ-: You still here? Just making sure I'm not waiting on nothing. :)
[19:33] <datacide> subzer0 Your answer was incorrect
[19:33] <datacide> subz3r0, Because you have no idea what you are talking about
[19:33] <Dot_> L3top, fine, I'll try
[19:33] <douglas> intall
[19:33] <mbeierl> Dot_, install something else over top of it will also "remove" it...
[19:33] <douglas> install
[19:33] <douglas> pdf
[19:34] <subz3r0> datacide, funny statement. especially this statement from a guy who isnt able to install seamonkey... welcome to my ingore list, ...
[19:34] <datacide> subz3r0, That is why I told you to install it
[19:34] <datacide> subz3r0, to see what happened
[19:34] <douglas> like question for my pc
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> should be some seamonkey ppas out there
[19:35] <subz3r0> what a ....
[19:35] <Dot_> L3top, I used "wubi"
[19:35] <datacide> subz3r0, Solve the problem before advising
[19:35] <Dot_> The thread shows most of the things saying (not wubi) ?
[19:35] <savio> Dr_Willis,
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Dot_:  wubis main feature is it has a add/remove programs entry in windows
[19:36] <TJ-> Teshub: Here's the manual ... scroll to almost the last page to see the bluetooth module... it's connected by wires. I would bet money at some point its become disconnected. http://goo.gl/1KYgT
[19:36] <Dot_> Yes, but, will the boot parameter still work?
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> so you remove a wubi install same as you would any windows app.
[19:36] <Dot_> I'm also kind of lost as to where I'm susposed to enter the boot parameters
[19:36] <TJ-> Teshub: page 23, last illustration
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> i dont use wubi. so no idea
[19:36] <Dunter> I have limited Linux knowledge but is this the right place for a Mint problem I'm having?
[19:37] <Teshub> TJ-: Ah... okay. Well.. let's my screwdriver kit then.
[19:37] <zykotick9> !mint | Dunter nope...
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Dunter:  mint has its own support channels
[19:37] <OerHeks> Dot_, that bootparameter is only for a Real ubuntu install, not the fake wubi thingy.
[19:37] <Dunter> Ahh okay, I couldn't find it as fast as this channel. THanks
[19:37] <Dot_> "fake bubi thingy"
[19:37] <Dot_> ?
[19:37] <Teshub> TJ-: Oh man.. I even need to remove the motherboard to get to that thing? -_-
[19:38] <Dot_> Is it frowned upon to use wubi or something?
[19:38] <initinit> hate
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> tell the mint guys to fix their irc client defaults.. ;)
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> Wubi is good for testing.. but is fragile
[19:38] <primefalcon> Dot_, wubi is the windows installer, most people consider it a less that optimum install
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> and slower then a full install
[19:38] <davidrsmorris> Dot_: Wubi is called by the windows bootloader instead of GRUB.  So you don'
[19:38] <TJ-> Teshub: Well I think that it might be worth it... if it is still connected then it has failed
[19:38] <davidrsmorris> t get to play witgh
[19:38] <davidrsmorris> grub options.
[19:38] <TJ-> Teshub: See page 20 for where it is connected to the mobo
[19:39] <Dot_> Well.. how would I do a 'proper' dualboot of Ubuntu and Win7 ?
[19:39] <primefalcon> but a wubi install can just be r4emoved just like any windows app if I remember right
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Dot_:  boot the cd.. run the installler
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> primefalcon:  thats its saveing feature. ;)
[19:40] <primefalcon> Dot_, a computer with a Ubuntu disc/usb inserted and boot from said device and choose to install Ubuntu beside windows
[19:40] <Odra> Cant you install windows on a usb stick?
[19:40] <primefalcon> Dr_Willis, good for people to try before you buy so to speak though
[19:40] <Teshub> TJ-: Okay. Well, thank you very much TJ! :) I'm going to disassemble this thing then. I'll be going offline then. And again - thank you for helping me out on this. Drinking a beer in your honour.
[19:41] <Dot_> So just download it from to a CD, run it on start up,  and then it will give me an option to install it alongside windows?
[19:41] <primefalcon> Odra, I tink that violates the windows Agreement
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> Wubi may be getting removed from the cd in the next release i hear
[19:41] <TJ-> Teshub: let me know how you get on
[19:41] <primefalcon> Dot_, yes just boot from he CD and you'll have the option
[19:41] <subz3r0> Dr_Willis, hopefully
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> Dot_: you BURN the iso to a cd.
[19:41] <TJ-> Teshub: And DON'T leave any screws over when you re-assemble it :p
[19:42] <Dot_> And that will give me a full, proper dualboot? Correct?
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> thats how its done.. yes
[19:42] <Teshub> TJ-: Hah, yeah, I know. Well. Thank you, and (i hope) until soon, when this is reassembled. :)
[19:42] <Dot_> Well...I'll try it!
[19:42] <Teshub> Bye bye
[19:42] <Dot_> Thanks :D
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> hopefully your hd is not using 4 primary partitions..
[19:42] <Dot_> wait, what? o.O
[19:42] <primefalcon> Dot_, thats the idea, you'll be asked to resize the windows partition/insstall so theres room for Ubuntu and yeah you'll be asked from then on as you boot, which you'd like to use
[19:43]  * W4sp .oO How many beer have gone down to honor TJ- just this month alone?
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> some annoying windows setups use 4 primary partitons.. making it harder to install to..
[19:43] <Dot_> Ok, can someone explain to me what a 'partition' is?
[19:43] <TJ-> W4sp: Good job I'm tea-total!
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> Id have to suggest the wikipedia entry on disk partitions
[19:44] <primefalcon> Dot_, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[19:44] <W4sp> TJ-: Makes two, I don't drink and hack.
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> it may not be an issue for you.. boot the live cd and come back
[19:44] <TJ-> W4sp: Oh I drink alright :D
[19:44] <Salman> L3top: are you there?
[19:45] <subz3r0> !seen L3top
[19:45] <subz3r0> :D
[19:46] <datacide> When does actionparsnip come on usually?
[19:46] <Salman> !help
[19:46] <Salman> woops. i was wondering what your could say
[19:47] <Salman> Well can someone else help me with sound problems?
[19:47] <Marii> lkjlkj
[19:47] <iceroot> !details | Salman
[19:48] <Salman> iceroot: Sound isn't working at all. Lubuntu 12.04 (The Lubuntu channel is useless) Emachines MX4624
[19:49] <Dot_> Ok
[19:50] <W4sp> Salman: Have you been around yesterday? Best is to repeat your query in detail.
[19:50] <Dot_> I think I know what to do
[19:50] <Dot_> If I partition my disk, is there any major drawbacks?
[19:51] <zack_> okay
[19:51] <zack_> wtf
[19:51] <zack_> guys
[19:51] <primefalcon> Dot_, small partition size since it splits yor hard rive into virtual drives
[19:51] <zack_> the compiz process
[19:51] <zack_> was using
[19:51] <FloodBot1> zack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <zack_> 30% cpu on my computer
[19:51] <zack_> my whole pc was flipping out
[19:51] <Pici> !enter | zack_
[19:51] <Salman> W4sp: output of aplay -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138401/
[19:51] <Dot_> primefalcon, what size would you reccomend?
[19:52] <Dot_> I have 490GB free of 597GB.
[19:53] <primefalcon> Dot_, for example say you have a 60 gig hard drive (small for today) if you split it into 2 30 gig drives, you will effectively have 2 seperate 30g drives instead of 1 60g, and that kinda depends on what size hard drive you havce
[19:53] <mofux> hi, is there a way to upgrade to quantal alpha 3 from 12.04 via software sources?
[19:53] <savio> why my hibernate option is disable
[19:53] <primefalcon> mofux, run the command sudo update-manager -d
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> savio  it's a known bug in 12.04
[19:53] <Dot_> It won't partition my RAM though, right?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> Dot_  no
[19:54] <primefalcon> Dot_, ram is seperate
[19:54] <Dot_> alright then, sounds good
[19:54] <Dot_> Thanks for the help guys :D
[19:54] <Salman> W4sp: anything else?
[19:54] <datacide> To add seamonkey, apparently do the following: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:joe-nationnet/seamonkey-beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install seamonkey
[19:54] <savio> MonkeyDust, thanks link will appreciate
[19:54] <W4sp> Salman: The best is to query with details what is on fault to all. IF you address a single person it is likely that other do no longer follow.
[19:55] <en1gma> what kernel does ubuntu 12.04 use
[19:55] <zack_> why would my cpu usage spike so high?? i dont lagg at all on windows, yet on ubuntu which is supposed to run well on LOW end hrdware crashes?
[19:55] <mofux> primefalcon: wow, that was easy, thanks alot
[19:55] <primefalcon> mofux, your welcome
[19:55] <Salman> W4sp: how do it do that?
[19:56] <en1gma> what kernel?
[19:56] <primefalcon> mofux, you do realize though that 12.10 is still alpha though right
[19:56] <primefalcon> mofux, and it may not be 100% stable
[19:56] <subz3r0> zack_ did you check with "top" whats takes most of the cpu usage?
[19:56] <zack_> yes
[19:57] <W4sp> Salman: On a side note, your pastebin shows it is AC'97 compatible, I found drivers at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php I assume you require a Conexant Audio driver based on the laptop model.
[19:57] <en1gma> 3.2.6?
[19:57] <zack_> it was skype, and compiz
[19:57] <zack_> compiz was at 30%
[19:57] <zack_> and then my screens started flashing like they do when you change resolutions
[19:57] <primefalcon> 3.2.0-27-generic for 12.04
[19:57] <en1gma> thanks
[19:57] <Salman> W4sp: ok thanks
[19:57] <rollitup> hi people
[19:58] <KaorukoLee> I feel like an idiot now
[19:58] <subz3r0> zack_ which cpu is it? how many gigs of ram? do you use unity/gnome shell?
[19:58] <zack_> 12gb ram
[19:58] <KaorukoLee> I downloaded the Windows version of that game.. -.-
[19:58] <zack_> that may explain better
[19:58] <zack_> err
[19:59] <zack_> how do i do a syystem script
[19:59] <zack_> on windows xchaht they had /winsys
[19:59] <zack_> is there a linux equivalent?
[19:59] <subz3r0> system script?
[19:59] <KaorukoLee> Xchat for Linux o-o
[19:59] <zack_> mhm
[19:59] <rollitup> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and I have an onboard GeForce 6150/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!  card
[20:00] <rollitup> and it shows me that some propreitary drivers are available
[20:00] <centrelink> zack_; xchat-xsys
[20:00] <centrelink> os[Linux 3.4.7-1-ARCH x86_64] distro[Arch Linux] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) II P320 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 0.6GB/1.7GB free] disk[Total: 230.8GB/432.2GB free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB]
[20:00] <centrelink> see
[20:00] <Salman> W4sp: um Kernel 3.2.0-27-generic isn't listed
[20:00] <zack_> errr
[20:00] <zack_> nope
[20:00] <zack_> nothing happened
[20:00] <rollitup> Nvidia accelerator graphics driver version 173 and there is also one recommended one in the list
[20:00] <centrelink> zack_; install it
[20:00] <aleprovencio> hello guys, I'd would like to have a different keyboard layout that enables as soon as I switch to firefox window, is that possible?
[20:00] <zack_> how?
[20:01] <zack_> im using xchat
[20:01] <rollitup> so can anyone point which would be the best to install ?
[20:01] <centrelink> .
[20:01] <primefalcon> rollitup, either go the latest or the recomended, which ever one works best for you
[20:01] <BluesKaj> rollitup, best to choose the recommended driver
[20:01] <subz3r0> zack_: wouldnt it be easier just telling us which cpu, ram, and gfx card?
[20:01] <zack_> amd radeon HD 6870
[20:01] <zack_> 12gb ram
[20:01] <subz3r0> !enter zack_
[20:01] <zack_> amd athlon II x4 at 3.0ghz
[20:01] <subz3r0> stop it
[20:02] <subz3r0> do not hit enter after like very word
[20:02] <rollitup> thanks BluesKaj and also I have 3 gigs of ram but it shows only 1.9 gb in the system details
[20:02] <centrelink> zack_; install xchat-xsys
[20:02] <joel135> rollitup, try the recommended one. it you discover it isn't enough for you, try the other one
[20:02] <zack_> how do i use xchat sys, i installed it
[20:02] <zack_> :/
[20:02] <KaorukoLee> Rollitup: I had similar issues; but apprently mine was due to graphics card
[20:02] <centrelink> zack_: restart xchat and type /sysinfo
[20:02] <Salman> W4sp: do i have to downgrade? or just use the one for 2.6.31-17-generic
[20:03] <rollitup> i installed the recommended one and also tried to install hedgewars game and the game wasn't able to run at all, it jus started and was frozen
[20:03] <subz3r0> zack_, well your system does fit the need of ubuntu. anyway. If your screen makes trouble, check the driver.
[20:03] <rollitup> so do u think i should try version 173
[20:03] <zack6849> os[Linux 3.2.0-27-generic-pae i686] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[4 x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 92.3% free] disk[Total: 206.5GB, 85.0% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[20:04] <subz3r0> zack_, the gfx-driver i meant
[20:04] <zack6849> i cant get the drivers
[20:04] <zack6849> they all give me errors
[20:04] <joel135> rollitup, I'd always try the recommended one first because, well, it's recommended :)
[20:05] <zack6849> i wish i could, i asked for help but nobody could get it working
[20:05] <zack6849> would it help if i got teamviwer or something?
[20:05] <rollitup> yes joel135 but as i told you hedgewars couldn't run with the recommended one's so i think i shall try 173 but is there a way to revert back to recommended one ?
[20:06] <jpmh> running 12.04 - have used SETTINGS/BRIGHTNESS & LOCK to set "lock after 10 minutes" . System seems to ignore me and NEVER lock - what else do I need to do?
[20:08] <subz3r0> zack6849, try this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers
[20:09] <joel135> rollitup, sorry I didn't see that. you can revert, yes
[20:09] <rollitup> thanx joel135 :)
[20:09] <subz3r0> I dont have/or want a ati/amd gfx card. so cant help you with it
[20:11] <hugoval> hey
[20:11] <siglar> Hello. In Ubuntu 12.04 I can't encrypt plain text in gedit because there isn't Seahorse plugins. Is there an alternative?
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> check the repos for a plugin?
[20:12] <siglar> Dr_Willis: I did. I didn't found any.
[20:13] <Salman> That HSF modem won't install anything else?
[20:14] <zack6849> thanks for the link Subz3r0
[20:15] <zack6849> okay, now it says the driver is active. but not currently in use
[20:15] <zack6849> how do i force it to use the driver?
[20:15] <StahlGrau> haha damn dude weren't you here last night?
[20:16] <zack6849> lolyep
[20:16] <zack6849> i figured out my error
[20:16] <StahlGrau> sweet
[20:16] <zack6849> apparently grub didnt take to kindly to hitting reset instead of powering off then back on
[20:16] <zack6849> nothing was messed up.
[20:17] <zack6849> now imm just trying to get my driver to work :P
[20:17] <bars0> \quit
[20:18] <StahlGrau> what driver? videocard?
[20:18] <Salman> Anyone else can help me with sound? Ubuntu 12.04 , Emachines Mx4624
[20:18] <zack6849> yeah, i installed it finally and it says "the driver is active, but not in use"
[20:18] <StahlGrau> what kind of graphics card?
[20:19] <code0ps> Will Ubuntu 12.04 run on a Toshiba Satellite C655D.  2XAMD 64 bit?
[20:19] <StahlGrau> is it a 64bit processor?
[20:20] <nhr_> Help, can not login to the box. I got BSOD, after reboot, I can not login to the box. Says failed to load session ubuntu
[20:20] <code0ps> AMD chipset 350 with virtual VRAM.
[20:20] <StahlGrau> Yeh it should
[20:20] <savio> is backtrack tool are also available in our repository
[20:20] <zack6849> StahlGrau,
[20:20] <subz3r0> code0ps, this one with the integrated gfx card?
[20:20] <zack6849> os[Linux 3.2.0-27-generic-pae i686] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[4 x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 90.5% free] disk[Total: 206.5GB, 84.5% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic]
[20:20] <code0ps> Thank you.
[20:21] <code0ps> I noticed on the Canonical site, the build custom devices for cloud.  Can other manufacturers do that in liason, or are there only specific mobile devices?
[20:21] <subz3r0> yes its the zacate and ubuntu will run smoothly
[20:21] <StahlGrau> I run ubuntu on my E350 machine
[20:21] <StahlGrau> 64bit
[20:21] <subz3r0> friend of mine got it in his htpc
[20:21] <subz3r0> 64bit will work too
[20:22] <StahlGrau> zack6849, Not to sure what to tell ya
[20:22] <Salman> Please? Sound help?
[20:22] <StahlGrau> does your computer have an hdmi port, salman?
[20:22] <code0ps> So if I purchased a LTS OEM license, then if the equipment manufacturer was able to, that would work?
[20:22] <zack6849> one sec
[20:23] <nhr_> Anyone? Can not login to the box. It says failed to load session ubuntu
[20:23] <subz3r0> Salman, i suggest you but the information which have been asked for from other guys in here in a pastebin and put the infos in one line and ask in here from time to time :)
[20:23] <subz3r0> put
[20:23] <StahlGrau> LTS OEM license?
[20:24] <code0ps> Thanx all who helped.  I'll get a Live CD and check it out on my laptop.
[20:24] <subz3r0> keine ahnung stahlgrau
[20:24] <Salman> subz3r0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138401/
[20:24] <subz3r0> ehrm no idea
[20:24] <StahlGrau> Haha ja
[20:25] <StahlGrau> Ich kanne nur ein bisschen Deutsch sprechen ;)
[20:25] <subz3r0> you understand me wrong, Salman. I meant its better to put all the information you got in one line and ask then for help, as the way you did it before. like: "help with sounds"
[20:25] <Kaail> Hello?
[20:25] <k1l> nhr_: enough free space on the partitions?
[20:25] <StahlGrau> hello!
[20:26] <nhr_> k11: Yes, lot of space
[20:26] <Kaail> I have a problem with my sound.
[20:26] <zack6849> german? xD
[20:26] <Kaail> It's all crackly.
[20:26] <nhr_> I got bsod, and then I could not login at all
[20:26] <zack6849> StahlGrau, http://oi46.tinypic.com/2zirbqs.jpg
[20:26] <subz3r0> human...
[20:26] <Kaail> I had a similar problem on Win7 which was solved by limiting RAM in msconfig to 3GB or less. Is there a way to do this in ubuntu?
[20:27] <Blue_> is it normal to put personal files in home folder or this is bad? should we make another folder??
[20:27] <Salman> Help sound probs. Lubuntu 12.04 Emachines Mx4624 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138401/ sound not working at all need help now
[20:27] <StahlGrau> zack6849, have you tried changing settings in the "computer settings" or whatever the real name is
[20:27] <subz3r0> Blue_ depends on the files i think. if they are senitive = Crypt them
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> Blue_: /home/usernMe is normal
[20:28] <zack6849> no, i have no idea where to change it
[20:28] <MellowasJellow_>  /server irc.evilzone.org
[20:28] <Blue_> thanks
[20:28] <StahlGrau> hit the super button and then type settings
[20:28] <Kaail> Is there a way to limit the available RAM to the system on ubuntu? Like with msconfig on Win7?
[20:28] <subz3r0> Blue_: check encFS. easy way to crypt directories in your homedir or anywhere else
[20:28] <zack6849> i see
[20:28] <StahlGrau> "system settings" should have display and/or graphics properties
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> Kaail: thats a wdird way to fix a sound issue
[20:29] <StahlGrau> and maybe changing some of those will make the driver active
[20:29] <Kaail> Dr_Willis it's the sound card
[20:29] <zack6849> system settings, catylist control, and onboard
[20:29] <zack6849> oh
[20:29] <Kaail> Something odd with it and it seemed to work
[20:29] <Blue_> subzero I do not need encription, just want to save and find them
[20:29] <StahlGrau> catalyst might be your best bet
[20:29] <zack6849> i dont see that StahlGrau
[20:29] <StahlGrau> what are you actually trying to do?
[20:29] <zack6849> also in the catylst it throws an error
[20:29] <Kaail> Dr_Willis, do you know of a way to do it in ubuntu?
[20:30] <StahlGrau> I mean you obviously have a display
[20:30] <StahlGrau> Hmm
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> Kaail: nope. never needed to
[20:30] <subz3r0> Blue_ that what i said. depends on how important the files for you are. Just use the /home/user dir and you should be fine =)
[20:30] <zack6849> i want the driver to be used :/
[20:30] <StahlGrau> Yeah I gotcha
[20:30] <subz3r0> are for you...
[20:30] <StahlGrau> maybe try the "post-release" driver?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> re.ove a zgick of ram
[20:30] <zack6849> okay
[20:30] <Blue_> thanks
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> remove a stick of ram.
[20:31] <subz3r0> haha
[20:31] <Weird98GuY> the bar on the top of the screen (applications, system, etc.) is invisible. how do I make it visible?  unity --reset didnt work
[20:31] <centrelink> I want a zgick of ram
[20:31] <k1l> nhr_: can you boot into the recovery or a live system and grab the logs from /var/log and put them in a pastebin? so maybe there is a hint what is going wrong in theese files
[20:31] <Kaail> I've got two 2gb sticks, if I do that I'll have less RAM than if there is a way to limit it in-system
[20:31] <zack6849> http://www.downlaodmoreram.com/
[20:31] <zack6849> seems legit.
[20:31] <StahlGrau> lol
[20:32] <walbert> Hey guys - Is there a way to install a single package from the QuantalQuetzal repository without pulling everything from it?
[20:32] <Weird98GuY> the bar on the top of the screen (applications, system, etc.) is invisible. how do I make it visible?  unity --reset didnt work, anyone?
[20:33] <zack6849> StahlGrau, if i try to install the post release it throws an error and requests i see the log
[20:34] <subz3r0> Weird98GuY, backup the files and try: rm ~/.gconf ~/.gconfd ~/.metacity ~/.compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/dconf -rf
[20:34] <subz3r0> it will reset everything
[20:34] <StahlGrau> Hmm interesting, take a look at the log and google for any errors you find, something might have just installed incorrectly
[20:34] <nhr_> K1l: I can try
[20:34] <StahlGrau> I'm not a pro, just telling you what has worked for me in the past
[20:34] <subz3r0> Weird98GuY,  if that doesnt work, u can try to reset compiz. but lets see
[20:34] <W4sp> Salman: Do you have pulse audio installed? I suggest you give it a try. If not installed yet you can use synaptic, the package is paman. Assuming you use GNOME install gnome-alsamixer in case it is not installed yet.
[20:35] <Weird98GuY> ill give it a shot
[20:35] <zack6849> this log is scary.
[20:35] <zack6849> @_@
[20:35] <Salman> W4sp: Using LXDE what do i use for that?
[20:36] <subz3r0> Weird98GuY, after youve done that hit alt +f2 then r and hit enter
[20:36] <StahlGrau> haha worse comes to worst, uninstall that ish
[20:36] <Weird98GuY> alright
[20:37] <W4sp> Salman: That's a Desktop Environment that you don't have in Lubuntu.
[20:38] <zack6849> im completley los in ubunu at the moment
[20:38] <zack6849> Dx
[20:38] <zack6849> *lost
[20:38] <subz3r0> W4sp, lxde not in lubuntu? hmm? :>
[20:38] <Weird98GuY> one sec
[20:38] <oozbooz> hi, yesterday I've added xorf-nvidia-beta repo and upgrade the system... How can I downgrade all upgraded packages and remove the repo
[20:39] <L3top> oozbooz: I am unfamiliar with that. Was it a ppa?
[20:39] <oozbooz> yes
[20:39] <L3top> !ppa-purge
[20:39] <platzhirsch> Are the keyboard shortcuts for Gnome or other Window Managers defined somewhere in plain text?
[20:40] <oozbooz> L3top: ubottu: I was looking at ppa-purge... does it remove package completely or downgrades them?
[20:40] <cndiv> Hey everyone, is there an Ubuntu consultant group I can hire? I have machines to manage but the problems are over my head
[20:41] <cndiv> someone who specializes in such things
[20:41] <L3top> oozbooz: as the factoid says, it reverts them. (returns them to their original state)
[20:41] <zack6849> OH
[20:41] <zack6849> i gotta reboot
[20:41] <zack6849> >_>
[20:41] <zack6849> that would makesense
[20:42] <oozbooz> L3top: ubottu : thanks
[20:42] <subz3r0> platzhirsch, you can edit them with dconf editor or gconfeditor. also you can find the files inside of the dirs like in ~/.gconf and/or ~/.config/conf
[20:42] <IdleOne> cndiv: canonical.com offers paid support contracts
[20:42] <StahlGrau> haha yes it would
[20:42] <platzhirsch> subz3r0: thats what I was aiming for, even though I read that gconf is deprecated
[20:43] <cndiv> IdleOne, anyone but canonical? Their "certified" list doesn't include any of the machines I have to support
[20:43] <cndiv> I just need some additional resources, not promised anything
[20:43] <nhr_> k1l:Here is the paste bin http://pastebin.com/z5KZUaZC
[20:43] <IdleOne> cndiv: I don't know of any other. contact them before counting them out.
[20:43] <subz3r0> platzhirsch, i use both of them. dont know if it should be deprecated
[20:44] <cndiv> IdleOne, I have, they haven't been too receptive so far to the idea
[20:44] <cndiv> thanks though
[20:44] <IdleOne> !loco | cndiv Try your loco Ubuntu group.
[20:44] <cndiv> ok cool good idea, thanks
[20:45] <cndiv> ubottu, thanks
[20:46] <Salman> W4sp: its reinstalling EVERYthing
[20:47] <W4sp> Salman: Lubuntu?
[20:47] <zack6849> errm, i need help using dual screens again
[20:47] <zack6849> i made it work on the olld driver, then it reseet itself
[20:48] <Salman> W4sp: its installing libre-office nd ubuntu desktop (its done now)
[20:49] <zack6849> when i try to apply the new settings i get the following error: "requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1920, 0), size=(1280, 1024), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[20:49] <k1l> nhr_: sounds like this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/808654  read comment 11
[20:50] <PapaSierra> i have a home dir /home/me and that dir is owned by a user "me". now i want apache to serve files from there. i believe apache (www-data) doesn't have permission to that dir. what is the correct way to solve this?
[20:50] <Salman> W4sp: ok so how do i enable pulse audio?
[20:50] <k1l> nhr_: but im afk now. if you need help adress the whole channel
[20:51] <nhr_> Why would it switch to 2d. As far I know it was default experience. I'll try the suggestions
[20:51] <j3sus> hello can ubuntu dialup
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Salman, open a terminal type , pulseaudio  ,  make sure you don't have any errors
[20:53] <centrelink> j3sus idk
[20:53] <W4sp> Salman: Well, do try to play an audio file. In '/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stere' are some. Play 'audio-channel-front-center.oga' for example.
[20:53] <Salman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138503/ i get
[20:53] <BluesKaj> !dialup | j3sus
[20:53] <Jordan_U> j3sus: Yes, Ubuntu can use dial up modems. It can often be difficult to setup though, and not all dial up modems are supported.
[20:53] <cndiv> Does anyone use an ultra-light laptop as their ubuntu machine? I'm looking for reviews.
[20:54] <j3sus> does aol modem work ????
[20:54] <BluesKaj> !polls | cndiv
[20:54] <ahoneybun> hello people
[20:55] <yatta> for some reason after long time period lock screen freezes i'm using ubuntu 12.04 could it be fixed?
[20:55] <Salman> W4sp: no sound :(
[20:55] <W4sp> Salman: What did you use to test?
[20:56] <Salman> Front-center
[20:56] <W4sp> Salman: OK, what program did you use to test the sound?
[20:56] <Salman> Rythumbox(whatever its called)
[20:58] <Salman> W4sp: like i said i get this error when i type pulseaudio in term http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138503/
[20:58] <W4sp> Salman: Are you able to start pulsaudio as a daemon?
[20:58] <W4sp> Salman: OK, let me check.
[20:59] <usr13> Salman:  already running
[20:59] <usr13> Salman: What are you trying to do?  (What is it your are trying to fix?)
[20:59] <Salman> use13: sound
[20:59] <Salman> usr13: sound
[20:59] <PapaSierra> anyone know about my apache file permission question above ^^
[21:00] <usr13> Salman: open a terminal and type  alsamixer  and hit enter.
[21:00] <Salman> usr13: did that many times. nothing is muted everything is max
[21:01] <usr13> Salman: Do you see anything muted or turned down?  (Right or left arrows to go from channel to channel.  Up and down arrows to turn up or down.....)  Oh
[21:01] <usr13> Salman: Ok, let's do a test:  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[21:01] <usr13> Salman: .... tell us what it does, or if you get errors... etc....
[21:01] <katfa> Hey eveyrone, I'm having trouble getting a wireless usb dongle to work with linux mint 13. anyone have the time to help?
[21:01] <W4sp> Salman: Do you actually see your device listed? Also, in that screen if you type 's' a menu pops up.
[21:02] <ahoneybun> PapaSierra, I sadly do not know about apache, but I did see your question
[21:02] <harovali> subz3r0: I tried as you told me (a while ago) , I tried "unity --reset". However it says it expects a :0 DISPLAY , and that's what I have not; the system boot process does not yield one, and besides issueing "service gdm start" as root user from the text command line does not work either, it says that the service doesn't exist.
[21:02] <Salman> Usr13: play isn't installed lol
[21:02] <usr13> Salman: install it
[21:02] <supercom32> If you create two swap partitions for each instance of Ubuntu you want to install on a single drive, will each instance use their own swap partition you specify? Or will they just use all avaliable ones they find?
[21:03] <usr13> Salman: sudo apt-get install sox
[21:03] <usr13> supercom32: Best to just use one.
[21:03] <Jordan_U> supercom32: Swap partitions are configured to be used in /etc/fstab.
[21:03] <PapaSierra> ahoneybun it's not really an apache question. it's an OS question. apache runs as www-data:www-data, my dir is /home/me owned by me:me, so how do i give apache permission to this directory is the question
[21:04] <usr13> supercom32: If it's not big enough, just make it bigger.
[21:04] <OerHeks> Salman, try "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/* "
[21:05] <supercom32> @usr13 & Jordan_U: The reason I ask is because I want one instance of ubuntu to be able to suspend ect, and another to do the same on it's own swap.
[21:05] <zack6849> how do i launch omething as superuser?
[21:05] <Salman> OerHeks: usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138513/ I heard no sound but i heard a popping sound.
[21:05] <usr13> supercom32: You're only running one instance of ubuntu at a time. Right?
[21:05] <ahoneybun> PapaSierra, I believe the chmod command handles permissions
[21:05] <usr13> supercom32: Therefore, you only need one swap partition.
[21:05] <ahoneybun> do man chmod
[21:05] <Jordan_U> supercom32: Just make sure that each installation has only one swap partition, its own, configured in /etc/fstab.
[21:06] <usr13> Jordan_U: .. they can both use the same one.
[21:06] <supercom32> @Jordan_U: So I can configure each instances /etc/fstab to just use the swap partition they were assigned?
[21:06] <PapaSierra> yes it does. i'm trying to work out who needs the permissions and how. should me be in www-data group? should www-data be in me group? this should be something that someone in this channel knows
[21:06] <Jordan_U> usr13: Not if, as supercom32 has requested, they will both need to be suspended to disk.
[21:07] <supercom32> @usr13: Yep, I want both to be suspended to disk.
[21:07] <supercom32> @usr13: I might have used the wrong terminology. Sorry about the confusion.
[21:07] <usr13> ij
[21:07] <usr13> ok
[21:07] <David-A> zack6849: in a terminal? sudo PROGRAMNAME , in graphical desktop, ask again
[21:07] <Salman> usr13: i don't know what to do
[21:08] <usr13> Salman: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[21:08] <usr13> Salman: Do you see errors, or what?
[21:08] <Salman> usr13: i did no sound what so ever
[21:08] <katfa> Does anyone have any experience with a netgear usb dongle
[21:08] <katfa> ?
[21:08] <W4sp> usr13: I think Salman has done that already.
[21:08] <usr13> Salman: What did you see on the screen?
[21:08] <Salman> usr13: output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138513/
[21:08] <zack6849> David-A, how do i do it in graphical?
[21:09] <W4sp> Salman: Did you get alsamixer up and did you see the device?
[21:09] <zack6849> ineed to run catlylist control center in "superuser"
[21:09] <subz3r0> harovali, mesa-utils installed?
[21:09] <Salman> W4sp ATI IXP yes
[21:09] <subz3r0> katfa, yes
[21:09] <usr13> Salman: See that you have working speakers plugged into ports that are active, and that amps are plugged in, etc...
[21:10] <subz3r0> !details | katfa
[21:10] <Salman> usr13: im using built in speakers
[21:10] <usr13> Salman: Is this a laptop?
[21:10] <Salman> usr13: yes
[21:10] <W4sp> Salman: Very good. ...And you herd that 'knak' after the first audio file started to play. Is that right?
[21:10] <katfa> hey subz3r0 , I just bought a netgear N600 usb wifi adapter, and I've installed the driver with ndiswrapper and I stil can't get it to work
[21:10] <W4sp> s/herd/heard
[21:11] <Salman> W4sp: you mean like a popping sound yes
[21:11] <katfa> I've followed quite a few forums and I don't know what more to do
[21:11] <usr13> Salman: Is there anything on the laptop itself for volume control?
[21:11] <subz3r0> katfa, please put the output of "lsusb", "dmesg" and "iwconfig" in a pastebin
[21:11] <Salman> usr13: yes there i a wheel. thats what im using
[21:11] <yatta> for some reason after long time period lock screen freezes i'm using ubuntu 12.04 anyone else experienced this problem?
[21:12] <usr13> Salman: ... like thumb wheels or slider, or switch or function keys.
[21:12] <usr13> Salman: Do you have headphones plugged in?
[21:12] <Salman> usr13: thumb wheel but it springs back when i move it up or down.
[21:12] <usr13> Salman: Really....?
[21:13] <Salman> usr13: like it controls the volume in lubuntu
[21:13] <usr13> Salman: That is strange....
[21:13] <Hrafn> While installing Ubuntu a few months back, I was inexperienced. I have learned later that I made a big mistake - I did not assign any swap space. Is there a way to assign swap space on my drive without having to reinstall and lose files?
[21:14] <Salman> usr13: its not a piece that controls the speakers. it controls the volume thing in lubutnu/windows
[21:14] <W4sp> Salman: I need to ask this, if you use the hardware volume control can you an indicator that volume increases? When you release the thumb weel does the visibale audio control snap back to '0'?
[21:14] <usr13> Hrafn: Yes.  But if you have not created a swap partition, that will need to be done first.
[21:14] <Hrafn> usr13: How would I do so?
[21:15] <ahoneybun> PapaSierra, did that work?
[21:15] <subz3r0> katfa: please the output of "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper", "ndiswrapper -l"too
[21:16] <usr13> Hrafn:  You will need to use something like gparted. You could resize the MS Windows partition to a smaller size and allow about 4Gig or so for a small swap partition.
[21:16] <Salman> W4sp: when i push the wheel up the volume in lubutnu increases (like in alsamixer it goes up) and then it goes back and if i want to increase more i have to push it up and let go and so on
[21:16] <usr13> Hrafn: and create the 4Gig swap partition and designate it as swap in the /etc/fstab file.
[21:16] <Hrafn> usr13: I do not have Windows, only Ubuntu.
[21:16] <Salman> i mean't the volume wheel goes back sorry
[21:16] <katfa> subz3r0: here are lsusb and dmesg
[21:16] <katfa> http://pastebin.com/3Pg108wg
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Hrafn: Yes. First, backup any important files to another drive (which you hopefully do regularly already). Then boot into a LiveCD (the CD you used to install Ubuntu will work fine), use GParted to resize your Ubuntu partition making room for swap at the end of the drive. Then create a swap partition there, and then configure that swap partition to be used by editing /etc/fstab.
[21:17] <usr13> Hrafn: You use the startup CD  which has gparted on it.
[21:17] <OerHeks> Salman, are you using Lubuntu within windows with wubi?
[21:17] <Hrafn> In other words, I will lose files?
[21:17] <usr13> Hrafn: Or you can download a gparted liveCD
[21:17] <djzn> is formatting a NAND flash via the 'non-quick' format damage the unit?
[21:17] <katfa> lwconfig just has two lines, subz3r0 , lo and eth0 both saying no wireless extensions
[21:17] <W4sp> Salman: I see. For the heck of if, can you aplay an audio file with the thumb wheel pushed up so it is not '0' or off? Is that possible?
[21:17] <David-A> zack6849: if a program is only meaningful to run as superuser its dona automatically as most programs in system settings menu, but you can still start catalyst c c with sudo in a terminal (i dont use catalyst myself) but you must find out what the program name is
[21:17] <PapaSierra> ahoneybun still trying to find out what to do. i'll let you know i find out
[21:18] <Salman> W4sp: not working
[21:18] <usr13> Hrafn: Or you can download a gparted liveCD from  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Hrafn: Resizing normally works fine and you keep all your files, but if something goes wrong then you want to have backups. Note that something could go wrong even if you aren't resizing a filesystem and so you should always have good backups.
[21:19] <Hrafn> I should have backups of my more important files. Thanks for the help.
[21:19] <usr13> Hrafn: Yes, that is true
[21:19] <katfa> here you go subz3r0  bcmwlhigh5 : driver installed device (0846:9011) present
[21:20] <W4sp> Salman: I woulod need to boot get my lxde up. I will disconnect now but be back in a minute or so.
[21:20] <katfa> that was ndiswrapper -l
[21:20] <katfa> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper doesn't output anything
[21:20]  * NoFace hi ppl
[21:20] <subz3r0> yes, seems that the driver isnt loaded.. " couldn't load driver 'bcmwlhigh6"
[21:20] <Motest003> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper doesn't output anything
[21:20] <Salman> and im not good at explaining if i push the volume wheel up the volume in windows/ Lubutnu goes up (in alsamixer its like im pressing the up button) when i let go of the volume button it goes back to its position and the volume stays at what it was increased to. if i want to increase more i have to push it up again and repeat the let go thing.
[21:21] <Motest003> EA=XACTKY
[21:23] <subz3r0> katfa,  the chip Broadcom BCM43xx is know  to make problems. you could try the driver "bcmwlhigh5"
[21:24] <katfa> subz3r0: bcmwlhigh5 : driver installed device (0846:9011) present
[21:24] <katfa> subz3r0: i'm thought I removed bcmwlhigh6
[21:26] <subz3r0> katfa, please try to give sudo iwlist scan  a shot
[21:27] <W4sp> Salman: You there...?
[21:27] <subz3r0> nothin found, right?
[21:27] <katfa> subz3r0: lo and eht0 don't support scanning it says
[21:27] <Salman> W4sp: yes
[21:28] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138546/
[21:28] <daeyun> 卐
[21:28] <fishcooker> my debmirror encounter this
[21:28] <daeyun> oops. wrong window
[21:28] <Salman> daeyun: badddd
[21:28] <W4sp> Salman: I have LXDE up. Please, if you haven't done so, in 'Sound and Video' you have now 'Pulse Audio Mixer'. Please can you run it.
[21:29] <Salman> W4sp: i don't see it. weird
[21:29] <subz3r0> katfa, which driver did you download?
[21:29] <subz3r0> i mean which package
[21:30] <W4sp> Salman: Did you not install in previously? I recall you complained about it. :-)
[21:30] <fishcooker> my debmirror encounter this gpg so error
[21:30] <fishcooker> how to override this
[21:30] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138546/
[21:30] <Praxi> is there an equivalent to alt tab built into ubuntu?
[21:30] <katfa> subz3r0: I've tried a couple and found a zip for winxp2000
[21:31] <Salman> W4sp: yes i followed your gnome-alsamixer step. or was that the correct?
[21:31] <katfa> so I removed the others... well maybe I did
[21:31] <glebihan> fishcooker, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[21:31] <Salman> W4sp *not
[21:31] <katfa> I tried to uninstall the others with wine
[21:31] <OerHeks> Salman, are you using Lubuntu within windows with wubi?
[21:31] <W4sp> Salman: It was the 'paman' in synaptics. No worries.
[21:31] <subz3r0> katfa: "sudo modprobe -v ndiswrapper" should show us more informations
[21:32] <Salman> W4sp: oh opps.
[21:32] <katfa> subz3r0:  that didn't return antyhing
[21:33] <marsje> why does my resolve.conf say: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> ? how can I find my dns server?
[21:33] <Salman> W4sp: ok GNOME alsamixer. now what?
[21:33] <subz3r0> its such a shame that the broadcom chips make so many problems :/
[21:33] <subz3r0> katfa, cant you give it back and get another one?
[21:33] <katfa> is there another brand I should try instead? like D-Link for example?
[21:33] <larry_> hay guise how do i install gcc?
[21:34] <katfa> because I only bought it a few days ago so I can return it
[21:34] <subz3r0> that would be the best i guess
[21:34] <W4sp> In a terminal run 'synaptics &' or 'Preferences/Synaptic Package Manager'. In the search box type in paman. Mark it and possible another one and click apply. That should give us the audio control.
[21:34] <katfa> but what should I buy then?
[21:34] <subz3r0> yes of course please check
[21:34] <subz3r0> !hcl | katfa
[21:34] <OerHeks> larry_, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[21:34] <larry_> thanks OerHeks !
[21:35] <TJ-> marsje: In 12.04 Ubuntu switched to using dnsmasq by default as the resolver
[21:36] <TJ-> marsje: As it runs on the localhost its at <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:36] <marsje> TJ-: I was not aware of that.. dnsmasq forwards to the dns server it received through dhcp?
[21:36] <katfa> subz3r0: thanks, I'm checking the list out now
[21:37] <TJ-> marsje: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[21:37] <Guest37210> I started using Ubuntu 10.04, and I'm really missing the windows 7 feature where you could drag a window to the left, side of the screen, and drag a window to the right side, and it would maximize both at half screen side by side. Anyone know of a way to do this in Ubuntu with gnome?
[21:37] <Salman> W4sp: ok now?
[21:37] <marsje> TJ-: thanks, I'll read a bit
[21:38] <subz3r0> katfa, you're welcome
[21:38] <subz3r0> ajax11124, that should work?
[21:38] <katfa> subz3r0: right now I'm using a bridged connection to my laptop, it's not optimal.
[21:39] <katfa> I hope I find something that my linux distro will support.
[21:39] <fishcooker> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138572/
[21:39] <Salman> W4sp: You there?
[21:40] <ajax11124> subz3r8, It doesn't work for me. It would be awesome If it could though.
[21:40] <subz3r0> ajax11124, click on the titlebar with the left mouse button and drag the window to the left or right. you will see an orange box
[21:40] <subz3r0> ajax11124, so you cant maximize the same way? titlebar and drag it to the top?
[21:41] <katfa> looks like I need to get a  D - Link! Thanks again for the help. :) good night
[21:41] <ajax11124> subz3r8, It doesn't do it for me. I am in 10.04 btw.
[21:41] <W4sp> Salman: In Volume control check if your device is listed. In 'Output Devices' see if it is LFE-Output either with or w/out amplifier. In Configuration it shoudl say Analog Stereo Output.
[21:41] <glebihan> fishcooker, looks like your proxy settings are interfering with apt
[21:42] <glebihan> fishcooker, I don't mush about proxy settings though, don't think I'll be able to help there
[21:42] <W4sp> Salman: Are we on the same page...?
[21:42] <glebihan> s/mush/know much
[21:42] <Salman> W4sp 1 sec
[21:42] <W4sp> Salman: OK, Cool.
[21:43] <subz3r0> ajax11124, awww... kinda late here.... guess i should go to bed... anyway. thought youre using gnome3.
[21:43] <Salman> W4sp: 2 options headphones no amp or amp.
[21:43] <ajax11124> subz3r8, gnome3 has it? I might just update to that then.
[21:44] <subz3r0> ajax11124, install the ccsm and  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[21:44] <subz3r0> !ccsm | ajax11124
[21:44] <W4sp> Salman: Do you have an headphone that you can plug in?
[21:44] <subz3r0> ajax11124, then check the "grid" function.
[21:44] <Salman> W4sp: yes but i would like speakers.
[21:45] <W4sp> Salman: I know, just to see if everything else is fine.
[21:45] <ajax11124> subz3r8, ok awesome. I'll give that a try. Thanks for the info
[21:46] <subz3r0> ajax11124, you're welcome. yes, gnome shell can do that with 12.04
[21:46] <subz3r0> ajax11124, any reason why you decided to use 10.04 instead of 12.04?
[21:46] <W4sp> Salman: In 'Output Devices', is there no LTE/.. or similar suggesting towards built-in speaker available?
[21:47] <ajax11124> subz3r8, I had some major issues with the 12.04 installation. Couldn't find the help I needed fast enough, and I had 10.04 disk sitting right next to me lol. So I decided I would just use that.
[21:47] <Salman> W4sp: i don't understand. can i send a screenshot?
[21:49] <W4sp> Salman: from the start button onwards select 'Sound & Video', then 'PulseAudio Volume Control'. The one that was missing as it hasn't been isntalled yet.
[21:49] <W4sp> Salman: It should be there now.
[21:49] <Salman> W4sp: that is what i am in.
[21:50] <subz3r0> ajax11124, dunno what went wrong. but everytime you download an image, make sure its not corrupted... check the md5 sum before
[21:50] <W4sp> Salman: I refer to the labels of the tabs: 'Output DEvices' is it not there?
[21:50] <fishcooker> i've no problem abt proxy setting here .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138590/
[21:51] <Salman> W4sp: yes i in it
[21:51] <W4sp> Salman: The stuff I wrote about to check, see previous. Did you checked it?
[21:51] <W4sp> Sorry, Did you check it.
[21:52] <ajax11124> subz3r8, I really didn't think it was a big issue. I have used 10.04 before and its worked good for me. I'm really not missing much of the stuff in 12.04. This was just one thing bugging me.
[21:52] <W4sp> I referred to the tabs: playback, output and so on.
[21:53] <phonebook_> if anyone was following my struggle yesterday - i finally got windows 7 installed on virtual box on ubuntu
[21:53] <phonebook_> and you may all quote me ---
[21:53] <W4sp> Salman: In Volume control check if your device is listed. In 'Output Devices' see if it is LFE-Output either with or w/out amplifier. In Configuration it shoudl say Analog Stereo Output.
[21:53] <phonebook_> windows 7 is the best app for ubuntu
[21:53] <deadmund> hahaha
[21:53] <ferds> lol
[21:53] <Postumus> HAHAHA!
[21:53] <phonebook_> well... it wasnt THAT funny
[21:53] <billyoc> Say it again, I missed it.
[21:54] <subz3r0> phonebook_, let me guess, problems with the guest additions?
[21:54] <s3r3n1t7> phonebook_, i'm waiting for the joke to come ....
[21:54] <Salman> W4sp: the port? there are to options on port headphone no amp and headphone amp
[21:54] <Salman> W4sp: tried both don't work
[21:55] <phonebook_> susubz3r8 - i had some partition problems and stuff - but it all worked out in the end
[21:55] <katfa> hey again subz3r0
[21:55] <fishcooker> because i succeed to apt-get update
[21:55] <katfa> guess what.... I'M ON WIRELESS!
[21:55] <W4sp> Salman: I see. Did you run the test with the headphones? Did it work? (I know you don't want to rely solely on headphones). This is just a test to probe if everything else is fine.
[21:56] <subz3r0> katfa, nice nice :) how did you fix it?
[21:56] <katfa> I have no idea
[21:56] <W4sp> Salman: We certainly will not give up on this.
[21:56] <katfa> restarted :)
[21:56] <subz3r0> just a reboot?
[21:56] <subz3r0> awww
[21:56] <subz3r0> lol
[21:56] <subz3r0> lovely :)
[21:56] <katfa> haha yea.. but that was like the 7th
[21:56] <FloodBot1> subz3r0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <Salman> W4sp: not working headphones or anything
[21:57] <subz3r0> katfa, did you a reboot after you unloaded the other driver? because it was shown in the log,too
[21:57] <W4sp> Salman: You dont have working headphones or do you have working headphones but nothing comes out of them?
[21:57] <Salman> W4sp: working headphones plugged into the port. no sound coming out of the headphones
[21:57] <katfa> subz3r0: yea, I restarted so many times. so I don't know why this worked this time. It was quite amazing. Took a while to connect but it worked in the end. Now I need to test if I can connect to the protected network
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Salman  in a terminal, type alsamixer
[21:58] <katfa> well atleast now I know that if I need to buy a usb wifi adapter, I'm going for d-link next time.
[21:58] <W4sp> Salman: OK. I will be away for a few minutes but I won't hang up on you.
[21:58] <Salman> MonkeyDust: No
[21:58] <katfa> ok goodnight again good people of Ubuntu! Hopefully I can help someone out one day as well
[21:58] <subz3r0> gn8
[21:58] <Salman> MonkeyDust: didn't help me
[21:59] <daeyun> goodbye. have a nice day
[21:59] <superbbbfab> hi, someone can help me with dosbox?
[21:59] <W4sp> Salman: MEanwhile... I checked for your laptop and we need to know if we have the correct driver. Can you search on their web site what audio hardware is actually installed.
[22:00] <fishcooker> TT
[22:00] <fishcooker> what happen with dosbox
[22:00] <Salman> W4sp: these are the specs http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/eMachines/StormK8/1009017sp2.shtml
[22:01] <W4sp> Salman: Further, you may need to check if there are any settings in the BIOS that may point to the muted systen.
[22:01] <Salman> W4sp: no sound works fine in windows after i install drivers
[22:03] <W4sp> Salman: OK with the BIOS. I wonder if there is a difference between the AC '97 we have loaded and their AC '7.
[22:03] <W4sp> Salman: brb.
[22:05] <Salman> W4sp: well i remember something saying AC 97
[22:06] <Salman> W4sp: plus the site says it has a x300 graphics care but it has a 200m graphics (as in it could be a lie)
[22:07] <superbbbfab> hi fish, i can't config keyboard to play
[22:08] <pseudonymous> Anyone using Ibus on ubuntu ?
[22:09] <Luig1> Hi. I've been looking into drivers for laptops and it looks like hybrid graphics can get problematic on Linux. Does anyone know if amd or nvidia cards are better supported in this way, with current drivers? (free or proprietary)
[22:09] <lee8oi> Nvidia works great for me. Always has
[22:09] <lee8oi> amd is ok...but needs work.
[22:09] <Luig1> lee8oi, do you have a laptop?
[22:09] <pseudonymous> Luig1: hybrid setups are a clusterf*ck
[22:09] <lee8oi> Nvidia also has access to physx in Wine so that helps extra.
[22:09] <OerHeks> Luig1, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[22:09] <Luig1> I know pseudonymous :(
[22:10] <OerHeks> Luig1, it is far from perfect ATM
[22:10] <pseudonymous> Some laptops. Like Lenovo's usually allow you to select the GPU in BIOS so that you at least have access to whichever GPU you want, permanently
[22:10] <Luig1> OerHeks, I've been to that page, but it doesn't address AMD at all
[22:10] <lee8oi> Luig1, Go with Nvidia, even on a laptop it rocks. Nvidia means dedicated graphics.
[22:10] <lee8oi> amd makes a lot of integrated....slower framerate but plays great in low graphics.
[22:11] <Luig1> I know it does lee8oi but the thing that's making me hesitate is power management. With amd cards their linux driver seems to manage the discrete card way better than nvidia's even though nvidia seems to have better card
[22:11] <Luig1> s
[22:11] <Luig1> Oops, I didn't mean to put that s on it's own line, sorry :\
[22:12] <Luig1> So anyway I'm on the fence with this and there don't seem to be many resources to check concerning power management in current drivers
[22:12] <lee8oi> Luig1, then you have your answer. You might prefer to sacrifice graphics quality for power. Do you game much?
[22:13] <Luig1> lee8oi, I think I probably will game quite a bit if I have a dedicated card. That's why I'm putting so much weight on this decision
[22:13] <lee8oi> for a laptop, integrated works fine if you don't really do any hardcore gaming
[22:13] <Luig1> I see, hmm
[22:13] <pseudonymous> Yup. a VERY good question.. If you don't you may as well look into some of the intel cards. Pretty good open source drivers and they definitely make for a less troublesome experience. Even nvidia has problems on laptops (such as you ONLY being able to switch monitors via their damned nvidia-settings app - thus not scriptable.. it's a hassle)
[22:14] <Luig1> Do the Intel HD 4000 cards seem like they'll be decent for the next 3-5 years, for gaming?
[22:14] <lee8oi> basically integrated is slower framerate but it has more memory to work with.
[22:15] <lee8oi> I have intel integrated on 2 of my laptops. It works for 3D desktop/etc ok. Intel makes mostly integrated.
[22:15] <Salman> W4sp: how long will it be?
[22:16] <W4sp> Salman: I just returned and will now have a look into your hardware specs.
 Do the Intel HD 4000 cards seem like they'll be decent for the next 3-5 years, for gaming?
[22:16] <Thanos> they arent even good now.
[22:16] <Thanos> much less in 3 years.
[22:16] <Luig1> I thought so :( that's why I'm looking so deeply into the discrete cards
[22:17] <Luig1> On laptops though that brings a whole slew of power management issues with the optimus technology etc
[22:18] <Luig1> They don't seem to use a hardware mux in anything anymore, either. It's a frustrating decision
[22:18] <Luig1> You all have been really helpful, though
[22:18] <lee8oi> hey no problem. I actually stopped into ask a question myself
[22:19] <lee8oi> I was looking for a simple way to remove all the manually installed packages I've added to Ubuntu.
[22:19] <lee8oi> and their dependencies.
[22:19] <lopsider> hello, I'm new to linux OS and am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I love it works great on the Aspire 1520 I have here. I have a question though. My screen display doesn't fill up my whole screen. I have 2 - 2 1/2 inches on the right that is black and a wrapped effect on the bottom showing the top of my display again. Is there a way I can fix this?
[22:19] <pseudonymous> Luig1: gaming on a laptop is almost always a disappointment anyway. If you use linux exclusively you may as well just use a slightly cheaper laptop and then pour cash into a gaming desktop
[22:20] <Salman> @W4sp: FYI i upped the ram 2 GB and it had a express 200m graphaics not a x300
[22:20] <Epistol> hi, there is a french chan ?
[22:20] <Luig1> pseudonymous, that's a great idea! It literally never occurred to me
[22:21] <gld1982ltd> Hi all...I need help packaging. I want to package lxmed and upload it to my ppa. I am following the instructions on http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html. I'm at the bzr builddeb -- -us -uc command. I keep getting an empty binary package. can anyone help? This is my first time trying to package an Ubuntu package.
[22:21] <Luig1> I've been going back and forth trying to configure a laptop to replace everything else, though :\ except for my phone, of course
[22:22] <Luig1> Hoping to save in the long run by being set for a few years, with a single device
[22:22]  * aaas tests /me
[22:23] <pseudonymous> Luig1: well, good luck with that :) I've never really been satisfied with the everything-in-one laptop. Typically they don't perform well enough or they are noisy,hot and plastic'y
[22:23] <pseudonymous> Moreso on Linux. I can't for the life of me get StarCraft 2 to work decently even though I play it in Windows on the same laptop.
[22:24] <zykotick9> !fr | Epistol
[22:25] <Epistol> Thx =)
[22:25] <Luig1> Well pseudonymous I have the same worries, but at this point I don't have a clear idea of where I want to live, so I'm not even sure if I have space to dedicate to a desktop. Even with the configuration issues (which I fully expect) I feel like this will be a simpler solution in the long run
[22:25] <Salman> W4sp: well i got to go
[22:25] <Luig1> That's part of what's making me lean to AMD, the driver seems to handle a lot on its own
[22:25] <W4sp> Salman: OK.
[22:25] <pseudonymous> ubottu: so is #ubuntu-qc for who ? Canadians ?
[22:26] <Luig1> I just wish they were offered in as many models as nvidia cards are :(
[22:26] <liam> Can i get some help here for a problem i am having? Am a new user, just switched to ubuntu
[22:26] <Luig1> Just ask, liam :)
[22:26] <pseudonymous> Luig1: well, never buy a pc before you're set up somewhere ;)
[22:26] <liam> Thank you; Basically, it looks and feels sweet, except one thing; i have no wireless.
[22:27] <liam> i used kinux mint older versions and didnt have this problem...
[22:27] <Luig1> I'm afraid I have little choice at this point, pseudonymous. Going to college this month and my current pc is hopelessly out of date. No way will I be productive enough unless I can get the latest software going.
[22:27] <Baud_> Hey guys, ive been researching this for a couple weeks but i havent found a good answer yet. When I do a live preview of ubuntu, via install media, my GUI has allot of great features like the ability to snap windows to sides of the screen or to use multiple workspaces as a single canvas draging windows between them with ease. However, as soon as I install ubuntu, all of those features drop and im stuck with interfaces more reminiscent of
[22:27] <Luig1> liam, could you tell us what wireless hardware you have?
[22:28] <extrasolar> Baud_ the program that allows you to do that is compiz
[22:28] <liam> This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[22:29] <liam> "This driver is activated and currently in use
[22:29] <pseudonymous> Baud_: sounds like you're running Unity 2D - Unity 3D gives you a lot of sweet features :) Most likely you have a Nvidia or AMD card that needs some drivers
[22:29] <extrasolar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager#Compiz
[22:29] <gld1982ltd> can anyone help me? I'm trying to learn how to package software from source. I keep getting an empty deb.
[22:29] <pseudonymous> liam: I don't know if it's like that anymore, but back in the days you needed a broadcom driver AND the broadcom firmware for that wifi card to actually make the driver work
[22:30] <liam> (wait, there is a command i can type here that tells you exactly what my machine has/is?
[22:30] <liam> Oh, ok pseudo...and how does one aquire the firmware?
[22:30] <IdleOne> !broadcom
[22:30] <extrasolar> what problem is liam having?
 Thank you; Basically, it looks and feels sweet, except one thing; i have no wireless.
[22:31] <gld1982ltd> I have a broadcom card and I had to install the b43-firmware-installer and then the broadcom driver.
[22:31] <pseudonymous> liam: hardinfo is a nice gui program that'll let you know what sort of hardware you're rocking ;)
[22:31] <deadmund> liam: also, lspci -k  shows your hardware and drivers
[22:31] <liam> lspci -k
[22:31] <liam> ok...
[22:32] <deadmund> liam: yeah :)  In the term
[22:32] <Baud_> pseudonymous and extrasolar, thanks for your responses! I've tried installing the latest drivers via the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current commands and ive also installed compiz before. Compiz doesnt seem to work. I'll launch the manager and make configuration changes but it wont work. Im thinking its a driver issue but im not sure how to get ubuntu to recognize that ive installed any drivers. Under the about section of system settings
[22:32] <Luig1> That's what he said earlier, extrasolar
[22:32] <Baud_> is unknown and i dont have any drivers installed, even after apt-getting from nvidia