[02:10] <mhall119> paultag: http://design.canonical.com/2012/01/multi-monitor-update-and-greeter-prototype/
[02:11] <mhall119> send them your experience
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[12:51] <paultag> mhall119: I sent someone an email over launchpad, since GPG servers were dowwn and they didn't want their mail public
[12:53] <mhall119> paultag: about the lightdm issue?
[12:53] <paultag> mhall119: yep
[12:54]  * czajkowski hugs paultag
[12:54] <mhall119> cool, thanks paultag
[12:54] <mhall119> did you try the prototype?
[12:54]  * paultag hugs cjohnston
[12:54] <paultag> erm, crap
[12:54] <paultag> czajkowski*
[12:54] <mhall119> lol
[12:54]  * paultag hugs czajkowski
[12:54] <paultag> no hugs for cjohnston
[12:55] <paultag> How is everyone
[12:55] <cjohnston> :(
[12:56]  * nigelb waves to paultag
[12:56] <paultag> howdy there nigelb :)
[12:56] <paultag> also cjohnston, howdy howdy
[13:09] <paultag> Joeb454: Happy birthday!
[13:11] <nigelb> oooh.
[13:11] <nigelb> HAPPY BIRTHDAY Joeb454!
[14:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:51] <paultag> if anyone wants to help sunlight out, some twitter love would be awesome - http://shortyawards.com/sunfoundation#/vote
[18:54] <xdatap1> paultag, it require my twitter to be authorize by that site. What is it about?
[18:55] <paultag> xdatap1: it does something with registering the vote pre-tweet
[18:56] <xdatap1> paultag, yes, I mean, what is about sunlight
[18:56] <paultag> ahhh
[18:56] <xdatap1> paultag, is the sun acquired by oracle we're talking about?
[18:56] <paultag> no :)
[18:56] <paultag> xdatap1: sunlight is who I work for now, we focus on making the us goverment more transparent and accountable
[18:57] <paultag> xdatap1: sunlight also hosts a bunch of the ubuntu DC events
[18:57] <xdatap1> paultag, oh, cool
[18:57] <paultag> xdatap1: http://sunlightfoundation.com/
[18:57] <paultag> xdatap1: we're a nonprofit :)
[18:57] <xdatap1> paultag, I understand, cool
[18:57] <paultag> xdatap1: ^5
[18:58] <xdatap1> paultag, it require a "because" statement. Gimme some ideas ;)
[18:58] <paultag> xdatap1: you can just say @paultag made me :)
[18:58] <paultag> or whatever you'd like :)
[18:59] <xdatap1> paultag, done :)
[18:59] <paultag> xdatap1: you rock! :)
[18:59] <paultag> xdatap1: thanks so much :)
[19:00] <xdatap1> paultag, it's nothing :) I rock for many other reason ;)
[19:00] <paultag> 'tis true!
[19:00] <xdatap1> paultag, LOL
[19:01] <xdatap1> paultag, I was joking :D
[19:01] <paultag> xdatap1: I'm not :)
[19:01] <paultag> xdatap1: how's the LC going?
[19:01] <paultag> everything running nicely?
[19:01] <xdatap1> paultag, thank you
[19:02] <xdatap1> paultag, as far I can see yes, I'm still "learning" btw
[19:02] <paultag> xdatap1: ah, I'm sure you guys are doing great :)
[19:04] <xdatap1> paultag, I'm still wondering about how doing better, I think next cycle will be better, this one was an ice breaking from my point
[19:04] <paultag> xdatap1: it can take a while to get used to some of it, sure - it's also a totally new set of people, so it's hard for everyone to learn at once, I'm sure
[19:05] <paultag> xdatap1: I'll show up at the next meeting and watch, but I am sure y'all have your own aweome vibe
[19:05] <xdatap1> paultag, thank you
[19:05] <paultag> dude, thank *you*
[19:05] <xdatap1> paultag, where are you based? Are you going to next UDS?
[19:06] <paultag> xdatap1: I'm in the US, I'm in Boston, MA -- I'm not going to the next UDS, no - but I'll be at PyCon and a few other big events
[19:06] <paultag> perhaps debconf
[19:06] <xdatap1> cool
[19:06] <xdatap1> paultag, I've been there last year, few days before debconf in NYC
[19:07] <xdatap1> paultag, nice city, I loved it
[19:07] <paultag> ah, yeah, totally. That was '11, aye?
[19:08] <xdatap1> paultag, mmm no, 2010 if I'm remembering well
[19:08] <xdatap1> paultag, two years ago then
[19:08] <paultag> ah, you might be right
[19:09] <xdatap1> paultag, going off line. See you soon! Bye
[19:10] <paultag> xdatap1: cheers!
[20:25] <Daniel0108> hey guys, can somebody send me the link to the official ubuntu drupal loco-webpage theme, please?
[20:39] <SergioMeneses> Daniel0108, look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme/
[20:39] <SergioMeneses> Daniel0108, sorry... this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme
[20:40] <Daniel0108> SergioMeneses, thank you very much :)
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> Daniel0108, don't worry
[21:40] <YoBoY> JanC: on of the french community member will bring official live CD for the fosdem, with kubuntu and server. have fun :)
[22:47] <JanC> YoBoY: I have official CDs too  ☺
[22:47] <JanC> we can keep some for other events then...
[23:14] <YoBoY> JanC: as you want, I still have for us since we received 2 packs by error
[23:15] <YoBoY> you can keep them all or a part for your needs :)


[14:44] <tomreyn> $ curl -sI --resolve ddebs.ubuntu.com:80:[2620:2d:4000:1::2b] http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/bionic/InRelease | head -n1
[14:44] <tomreyn> HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
[14:45] <tomreyn> and the html says "No server is available to handle this request."
[14:45] <tomreyn> LB issue?
[14:49] <tomreyn> ^ cross-posted to #canonical-sysadmin (i had forgotten this is probably an IS task)
[14:58] <axino> (I replied overthere)


[14:47] <jokole> h
[14:49] <jokole> where I can find a linux that can be installed by a child 12 years
[14:57] <jokole> I want to move, but to install it just makes me mad, it's over 1 year was not successful
[14:58] <Pici> jokole: This is not a support channel. You can try asking in #ubuntu, or perhaps #ubuntu-id (Indonesia) instead.
[14:59] <jokole> ok tyvm
[15:15] <jokole> associations of people confused..hohoho


[05:58] <doko> slangasek, anything specific to look at today?
[05:59] <slangasek> doko: well, ldc ftbfs because llvm3.5 uses the old abi, if you want to look at that
[06:00] <doko> ok
[06:09] <slangasek> ^^ once cauchy is published, calligra can be retried
[06:13] <doko> bad network here, will head over to the conference place
[10:28] <doko> slangasek, was timblserver from experimental a good idea? changes the version number in the -dev package and requires sourceful changes to the rdepends
[12:54] <doko> hmm, looks like we need some ocaml rebuilds too ...  apt-get install frama-c-base  fails
[18:47] <slangasek> do we get a tzdata update for North Korea? :)
[19:18] <slangasek> /«PKGBUILDDIR»/gen/asm-x86.h:225:5: error: narrowing conversion of '-1' from 'int' to 'char' inside { } [-Wnarrowing]
[19:18] <slangasek> yes, that's a reasonable error message to see in an armhf build log
[19:24] <slangasek> desktop images currently not buildable against the stack in -proposed
[19:29] <slangasek> triggering libcolumbus rebuilds for the above
[22:33] <infinity> slangasek: NK tzdata?  Hrm?
[22:34]  * infinity reads the tzdata list.
[22:36] <infinity> slangasek: So, to answer your question, yes, it looks like Paul will be pushing a new tzdata upstream ASAP.
[22:37] <infinity> slangasek: I'm somewhat curious, personally, about the intersection of people in NK who have a computer, run Ubuntu, and care about the timezone, but I'll package it up when it lands, just in case. :P
[22:38] <slangasek> infinity: that's good, we wouldn't want Kim Jong-Un to hire an astrologer to sue all Linux for crimes against the state
[22:38] <slangasek> TZ=Asia/Crazytown date
[22:38] <infinity> slangasek: I don't think that's what astrologers do...
[22:39] <slangasek> infinity: it was an astrologer that sent the previous C&D against tzdata, wasn't it?
[22:39] <infinity> slangasek: Also, I'm finding it harder and harder to criticize Kim Jong-Un, the more Canada's PM behaves just like him.  Look after your own house first, and all that.
[22:39] <slangasek> heh
[22:40] <infinity> slangasek: I, uhm, completely missed this C&D...
[22:40] <slangasek> orly
[22:40] <infinity> slangasek: All I see it the usual "news reports crazy timezone changes, here are some patches" discussions.
[22:40] <slangasek> it was big news for two days a couple years ago
[22:41] <slangasek> then the astrology software company in question learned not to get too big for its britches
[22:41] <infinity> Oh.  That's sounding familiar.
[22:41] <infinity> I thought you meant recently, in relation to Korea.  I'm not awake yet.
[22:46] <infinity> tzdata commits are a fascinating history lesson.
[22:46] <infinity> +# The term "Summer Time" was introduced by Herbert Samuel, Home Secretary; see:
[22:46] <infinity> +# Viscount Samuel. Leisure in a Democracy. Cambridge University Press
[22:47] <infinity> +# ISBN 978-1-107-49471-8 (1949, reissued 2015), p 8.


[00:37] <maxolasersquad> Anyone know if Ubuntu is planning to ship more Python3 libraries in the next release?
[00:37] <maxolasersquad> The lack of pymysql and configparser kind of stinks.
[00:52] <maxolasersquad> nm, configparser wasn't importing for some reason, but after exiting the console and going back in it imported no prob.
[19:57] <chloric> South Florida Ubuntu Hour is in session!!! Brought to you by yours truly Chloric and Govatent!!! :D
[19:57] <chloric> #fl-ubuntu-hour is where we're at
[21:54] <mhall119> chloric: you guys could have used this channel
[22:28] <CsWalker> quite quiet
[22:47] <CsWalker> shhhh


[07:31] <PoLpeTTaVaGaBonD> BuoN NaTAle
[20:31] <nino_> somebody in switzerland?
[22:56] <xu-irc81w> i'm noticing in the task manager that while i have programs running, gnome software is running in the background alongside it.  so steam is eating up 156 Mb of ram but gnome software is eating up 400 Mb at the same time.  is this a consequence of using SNAP versions of the software?
[22:56] <xu-irc81w> i only have 8 gigs to work with, so every process larger than 50 Mb is of concern
[22:56] <xu-irc81w> and an upgrade isn't possible on this machine
[22:57] <xu-irc81w> right now i'm running steam, discord, and falkon and my ram usage sits at 75 percent


 @ahoneybun and I witnessed a car accident on our way back from WPB. We got off of i95 due to heavy traffic (caused by another accident).
 https://youtu.be/8MHbIz_4S5c
 My dashcam was running
 Dang
 That's crazy. Did you stick around to provide the dash cam footage?
 @govatent, No. We have both parties my contact info and told them to contact me if they want it. I did not have a laptop with me yesterdays
 Keith without a laptop, that's blasphemy.
 Lies!
 @AdamOutler, I only had my pixel c
 Lol I was thinking the same thing


[09:32]  * jibel starting with LTSP on AMD64
[09:32] <jibel> and wubi on amd64
[09:34] <jibel> and alternate on mac
[09:46] <jibel> wubi amd64 is ok
[09:47] <jibel> next wubi i386
[10:01] <jibel> can anyone test alternate on hradware with a USB keyboard and tell if it works
[10:51] <xnox> I'm reading the legacy test cases
[10:52] <xnox> In particular http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1
[10:52] <xnox> am I missing something, or are the the 16 and 21 duplicates, with 16 being the one that should stay
[10:52] <xnox> ???
[11:56] <jibel> d-i based images (server and alternate) are broken
[11:56] <jibel> bug 1017879
[11:56] <jibel> oh bot is back, nice
[13:10] <jibel> Finally they arrived \o/
[13:20] <jibel> although they'll be respun soon. kernel fix on the way
[13:39] <jibel> stgraber, the bot that updates bug statuses on the tracker seems to be on vacations
[13:41] <stgraber> jibel: ah right, sorry, forgot to bzr pull the fix on limequat (as it's still running under the db user)
[13:41] <xnox> jibel: the bot is simply depressed, no job satisfaction updating bug statuses.....
[13:42] <xnox> =)
[13:42] <stgraber> jibel: branch updated, so should be working again in the next cron run
[13:44] <jibel> xnox, that's why it's a bot, can you imagine my state of mind when I was doing it, copying/pasting bug statuses between LP and the tracker all day long during the release week  ;P
[13:44] <jibel> stgraber, thank you!
[13:44] <xnox> jibel: some amount of coffee have been spilled by me =)
[13:45] <stgraber> jibel: np. Looks like cron just started updating all the bugs, so you should be good in a couple of minutes
[14:13] <jibel> french keyboard on a live session is working, long time no see, yay \o/
[14:17] <joris_> jibel, are you a fulltime ubuntu tester? :)
[14:21] <jibel> joris_, only on release week, otherwise I'm automating testing to make my day easier on release week :)
[14:23] <joris_> automated testing of what exactly? installation, desktop? what tools do you use?
[14:29] <jibel> joris_, installation, upgrades and package testing https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/
[14:39] <joris_> jibel, jenkins is automated building right? how does help with installation and upgrades? is that also done automated?
[15:03] <jibel> joris_, we use jenkins as a scheduler and report the results. External tools are developed to do the actual tests.
[15:03] <jibel> stgraber, there is no netboot on the tracker
[15:03] <jibel> does it need to be added manually ?
[15:07] <stgraber> jibel: oops, no, I just need to fix the script that adds it :)
[15:55] <jibel> balloons, desktop images need a test case for bug 1017991
[15:55] <balloons> jibel, I was JUST looking at that
[15:56] <balloons> yes, your right we're missing the "check disk" testcase
[15:56] <jibel> balloons, actually all the items from the boot menu should be covered
[15:56] <balloons> we should have a testcase that explores that whole menu
[15:56] <balloons> lol ^^
[15:57] <balloons> are you still getting scrollbars in your slideshow jibel?
[15:58] <jibel> balloons, no, I haven't seen them for a while
[15:58] <jibel> or I'm just hypnotized by the slideshow and don't see the scrollbars anymore
[15:58] <balloons> They come and go for me
[15:59] <balloons> but lol, I feel like I'm crazy sometimes too
[15:59] <balloons> I've seen them appear only at the beginning, and after a few minutes disappear
[15:59] <jibel> maybe randombars is a new super secret type of widget
[15:59] <balloons> I think I was trying to debug this once.. see what package install was causing the change
[16:01] <balloons> we seem to be missing the upgrades testcases btw
[16:02] <balloons> err builds I should say
[16:16] <jibel> jamespage, should we adjust the size wrt u-s-virtual-minimal tests or let it fail ? currently the test fails with 665748kB on 64bit and 616312Kb on 32bit
[16:17] <jamespage> jibel, yes - the installed kernel size is now resolved so lets bump the thresholds
[16:17] <jamespage> its less than ideal but....
[16:17] <jamespage> things appear to have grown over time...
[16:17] <jibel> jamespage, how much do you think is right ?
[16:46] <balloons> installs seem to be taking a bit :-(
[16:53] <balloons> meh.. the installer is just locked it seems.. let me see if it happens again
[16:58] <jibel> balloons, I get the scrollbars systematically when doing an oem installation
[16:58] <jibel> during the end user configuration
[16:58] <balloons> jibel, ohh really?
[16:59] <balloons> Interesting.. did you have any troubles getting the oem install to finish?
[16:59] <balloons> Mine hung for 10 mins on installing the kernel
[17:01] <jibel> balloons, no hang here.
[17:01] <balloons> I'm going to pull the logs once it finishes
[17:02] <joris_> that's what she said
[17:02] <stgraber> jibel: I've always seen the scrollbars for the oem install too, though not for standard installs (in Quantal that's).
[17:03] <balloons> hmm.. now it's stuck trying to restart
[17:03] <balloons> the oem install doesn't like me
[17:03] <jibel> balloons, is it on hardware ?
[17:04] <balloons> jibel, no, sadly..
[17:05] <jibel> balloons, which VM ? I tried kvm, vbox and vmware. They all work fine
[17:05] <balloons> vbox
[17:05] <balloons> I tend to use vbox + testdrive
[17:06] <balloons> weird, errors on boot now
[17:06] <balloons> err, well, after startup :-_
[17:13]  * jibel waves good night and hopes alternate and server will be published when he wakes up tomorrow morning
[17:14]  * balloons waves
[17:18] <Daviey> jfunk: it will :)
[17:18] <jfunk> Daviey?
[17:19] <Daviey> err, jibel
[17:19] <Daviey> sorry jfunk
[17:19] <jfunk> np
[17:46] <balloons> Daviey, jibel waved gnight
[19:05] <phillw> balloons: are the RC's for A2 at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds ?
[19:05] <balloons> phillw, indeed
[20:21] <AlanBell> balloons: have I reported bug #1016969 in the right place?
[20:22] <balloons> AlanBell, let's have a look
[20:23] <balloons> I didn't think orca worked in vbox.. I had trouble getting it to install properly
[20:23] <AlanBell> works perfectly
[20:23] <AlanBell> that is how most of our blind users test it
[20:23] <balloons> I did try high contrast mode today and found a little snafu :-)
[20:23] <balloons> it's in the right place tho
[20:23] <balloons> :-)
[20:23] <AlanBell> anyhow, not an orca or a11y bug, audio is pointing at devices that don't work
[20:24] <balloons> did you report the result on the tracker?
[20:24] <balloons> hmm.. must not have, I don't see the tracker bot on your bug
[20:25] <balloons> well, it's alpha 2 time as you know.. i'll give it a whirl on today's images. If it doesn't work, we'll need to fix, or release note it
[20:25] <AlanBell> I don't know how to do that, I go here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ and click report a bug, but that is to report a bug about the tracker or something
[20:25] <balloons> ahh, yes that's to report a bug against the website itself
[20:25] <balloons> never thought about the confusion that might cause
[20:26] <balloons> probably should "file a bug" for that to update the link so it doesn't confuse
[20:26] <balloons> anyways, you add your results on the tracker itself
[20:26] <AlanBell> ah, ok, so I file a bug on launchpad then link it on the tracker
[20:26] <balloons> so for instance, we're doing the alpha 2 testing right now, which is it's own milestone
[20:27] <balloons> AlanBell, yes.. you pick an iso from the tracker, run one of the testcases, and report your results. if you find a bug, you report it on launchpad and then add the bug number to your pass or fail report
[20:27] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds/17814/testcases
[20:27] <balloons> that's the amd64 desktop build
[20:27] <AlanBell> url to hardware profile . . . what does that mean?
[20:27] <balloons> and you can see the 'Install (Screen Reader)' testcase
[20:28] <balloons> you can ignore it for the time being
[20:28] <AlanBell> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds/17814/testcases/990/results/33302
[20:28] <balloons> it's a WIP. It's intended to link to a description of your hardware, so we can know info about your machine if needbe
[20:29] <balloons> :-)
[20:29] <balloons> perfect
[20:29] <AlanBell> ok, would be nice to have "virtualbox/KVM/VMware" as easy options to select there
[20:29] <balloons> not a bad idea
[20:29] <balloons> AlanBell, btw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1017207
[20:56] <phillw1> balloons: is the release target for A2 still 28th?
[21:08] <stgraber> yes
[21:25] <phillw1> yikes!
[21:36] <balloons> phillwl, lol


[00:04] <mwhudson> infinity: when can i start doing go 1.8 transitions bits for artful? (not yet, i assume)
[00:06] <infinity> mwhudson: Probably sometime tomorrow.
[00:06] <infinity> mwhudson: Which I guess is the weekend for you, so Monday?
[00:06] <mwhudson> monday for me then
[00:06] <mwhudson> cool
[00:06] <infinity> Jinx.
[00:16] <tsimonq2> infinity: Apologies if it seems like I'm pushing too hard, but do we have an ETA as to when artful opens? :D
[00:25] <infinity> tsimonq2: See above.
[00:25] <infinity> tsimonq2: Though the exact time is extended by an hour every time someone asks.
[00:27] <Ukikie> \o/
[00:27] <Ukikie> infinity: So if I ping you every hour about it, can I extend it until release?
[00:28] <infinity> Ukikie: Yup.
[00:28] <Ukikie> Sweet!  I'm gonna cron it!  (Not really. :3 )
[00:28] <infinity> Ukikie: I suppose it's a race then to see how quickly I'd get replaced, but I'm willing to take that chance.
[00:28] <Ukikie> Ahaha.  :P
[00:32] <infinity> tsimonq2: I'm counting this as you asking again when it'll open.
[00:32] <tsimonq2> infinity: XDDDD
[00:32] <tsimonq2> LOL
[00:33]  * tsimonq2 takes infinity's piece of chalk, runs up to the chalkboard, rambles to himself, makes a few tallies, then drops the chalk in a 50 gallon drum of hot water and sprints away
[00:34] <tsimonq2> YAY base-files \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
[00:34] <tsimonq2> I'll see myself out... :P
[00:36] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: damn. was going to post https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/artful-changes/2017-April/000000.html
[00:36] <tsimonq2> acheronUK: lol
[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dpkg (artful-proposed/main) [1.18.10ubuntu2 => 1.18.23ubuntu1] (core)
[01:02] <Ukikie> infinity: Thank you for the above.
[01:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debhelper (artful-proposed/main) [10.2.2ubuntu1 => 10.2.5ubuntu1] (core)
[01:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpkg [source] (artful-proposed) [1.18.23ubuntu1]
[01:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (artful-proposed/main) [1.0.81ubuntu3 => 1.0.81ubuntu4] (core)
[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: binutils (artful-proposed/main) [2.28-3ubuntu1 => 2.28-4ubuntu1] (core)
[01:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-6 (artful-proposed/main) [6.3.0-12ubuntu2 => 6.3.0-14ubuntu2] (core)
[01:21] <infinity> tumbleweed: Not a huge deal, but your dates for zesty release and artful rollover are a week late (which I guess is why my tools only starting hating me today instead of release day :P)
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (artful-proposed/main) [0.33 => 0.34] (core)
[01:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debhelper [source] (artful-proposed) [10.2.5ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dpkg (artful-proposed/main) [1.18.10ubuntu2 => 1.18.23ubuntu2] (core)
[01:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpkg [source] (artful-proposed) [1.18.23ubuntu2]
[01:55] <tumbleweed> infinity: I was wondering why things seemed busy here a week ago :P
[03:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dpkg (artful-proposed/main) [1.18.23ubuntu2 => 1.18.23ubuntu3] (core)
[03:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpkg [source] (artful-proposed) [1.18.23ubuntu3]
[03:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (trusty-proposed/main) [0.18ubuntu0.6 => 0.18ubuntu0.7] (core)
[03:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.2 => 0.28ubuntu0.3] (core)
[03:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debhelper (artful-proposed/main) [10.2.5ubuntu1 => 10.2.5ubuntu2] (core)
[03:11] <infinity> tumbleweed:
[03:11] <infinity> +    - Fix EOL date of Ubuntu 17.04 (9 months, not 18)
[03:12] <infinity> tumbleweed: I see no such change in the actuall diff.
[03:12] <infinity> (That is, the EOL was correct both before and after)
[03:12] <tumbleweed> yeah, I just realised that
[03:12] <tumbleweed> if you want to drop those 2, I can re-upload
[03:12] <infinity> Will do.
[03:12] <tumbleweed> the yakkety one I just uploaded has the rgiht changelog
[03:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.18ubuntu0.7]
[03:13] <infinity> tumbleweed: Rejectified.
[03:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.29ubuntu0.1 => 0.29ubuntu0.2] (core)
[03:14] <tumbleweed> I trusted the "Copy data from 0.30" previous changelog entry :)
[03:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.3]
[03:14] <infinity> tumbleweed: Thank you for using Adam's rejection service.  We understand you have a choice in which archive admin will flip your packages the bird, and we appreciate your loyalty.
[03:15] <tumbleweed> lol, I must take advantage of this more often :)
[03:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (trusty-proposed/main) [0.18ubuntu0.6 => 0.18ubuntu0.7] (core)
[03:16] <infinity> (I might be losing my mind after a couple of days of reconciling dpkg and debhelper bugs/misfeatures to get them to behave the way I need them to)
[03:17]  * tsimonq2 hands infinity a cup of coffee
[03:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.2 => 0.28ubuntu0.3] (core)
[03:19] <infinity> On the plus side, I now have a handy test package called "bollocks" that produces "bollocks.deb, bollocks-udeb.udeb, and bollocks-dgbsym.ddeb".
[03:19] <Ukikie> infinity: May I ask why you strip buildinfo from changes?
[03:20] <infinity> Ukikie: Because the LP buildinfo support turned out to be buggy.  I'll revert that revision after Colin fixes the infra.
[03:20] <infinity> Ukikie: Should be back on in a few days, I imagine.
[03:20] <Ukikie> Ah fantastic, sounds great.  Thanks muchly!
[03:21] <Ukikie> Yeah that's fine, I was just hoping this wouldn't diverge.  As long as it doesn't release with it, is what I was looking forward to. :)
[03:22] <Ukikie> (Sounds fun, LP breaking. :3 )
[03:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (zesty-proposed/main) [0.33 => 0.33ubuntu0.1] (core)
[03:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected debhelper [source] (artful-proposed) [10.2.5ubuntu2]
[03:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debhelper (artful-proposed/main) [10.2.5ubuntu1 => 10.2.5ubuntu2] (core)
[03:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debhelper [source] (artful-proposed) [10.2.5ubuntu2]
[03:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.18ubuntu0.7]
[03:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.3]
[03:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.29ubuntu0.2]
[03:34] <infinity> tumbleweed: All accepted.  Lemme know when you've verified they actually work.
[03:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.33ubuntu0.1]
[03:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (artful-proposed) [0.34]
[03:38] <tumbleweed> infinity: righto, thanks
[03:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (artful-proposed) [1.0.81ubuntu4]
[03:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted binutils [source] (artful-proposed) [2.28-4ubuntu1]
[04:13] <tumbleweed> infinity: all verified
[04:15] <infinity> tumbleweed: Shiny.
[04:17] <infinity> tumbleweed: All released.
[04:17] <tumbleweed> thanks
[05:53] <cpaelzer> the qemu SRU 2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.11 in xenial unapproved got surpassed by a security update
[05:53] <cpaelzer> I'm re-preparing with a new version number
[05:54] <cpaelzer> does this need to be rejected in the queue, or will a sync of a newer one just supersede it?
[06:06] <apw> cpaelzer, if there is something in the queue which is definatly bad, rejecting it is best then it cannot be accepted by accident
[06:08] <cpaelzer> apw: yeah if accepted now (that the sec update is in) it will at best version conflict and the new version is building
[06:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected qemu [sync] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.11]
[06:08] <apw> cpaelzer, ^
[06:08] <cpaelzer> thanks!
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/main) [4.8.0-49.52] (core, kernel)
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-lts-xenial [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [4.4.0-75.96~14.04.1] (kernel)
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.8.0-49.52~16.04.1] (kernel)
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.10.0-20.22~16.04.1] (kernel)
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.4.0-75.96] (core, kernel)
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.10.0-20.22~16.04.1]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-75.96]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.8.0-49.52~16.04.1]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4.8.0-49.52]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-lts-xenial [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [4.4.0-75.96~14.04.1]
[11:01] <xnox> slangasek, on Ubuntu system, after $ sudo apt install debian-archive-keyring; do you expect for apt to trust all debian signing keys?
[11:01] <xnox> or do you expect for them to be /available/ but not trusted.
[11:04] <sil2100> hm, is there anything wrong with autopkgtests? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running gives me 'A server error occured' and my ubuntu-image PR didn't get tests run (still waiting)
[11:04] <Laney> I'm updating it for artful, wait a few minutes.
[11:07] <sil2100> ACK
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-6 [source] (artful-proposed) [6.3.0-14ubuntu2]
[12:03] <infinity> xnox: I'd expect them to be trusted.
[12:03] <xnox> ok
[12:03] <infinity> Though I'm questioning why they're in xubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop ...
[12:04] <xnox> infinity, i think in the past, the /etc/apt/trusted.gpg was not updated with debian keys upon installing debian-archive-keyring, now they are shipped as snippets in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d and are trusted.
[12:05] <xnox> but i need to verify that claim on something old.
[12:05] <xnox> also i'm still pondering if /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/* key snippets should be conffiles or not.
[12:06] <infinity> xnox: We never modified the package on import from Debian, so I imagine it was added to the system keyring before it was switched to snippets.
[12:08] <xnox> i believe it used to call apt-key, which has a different master keyring for the apt-key update. and the ubuntu/debian master keyrings were encoded in apt-key, and thus src:apt
[12:08] <xnox> but yeah, need to re-verify this.
[12:08] <infinity> xnox: As for them being conffiles, it means the local admin can delete a key hey doesn't like and upgrades respect that.
[12:11] <infinity> xnox: But yeah, I could see arguments for not trusting it.  I'd want that pushed back to Debian, though (ie: some dpkg-vendor magic to install to /etc/apt on Debian and /usr/share on Ubuntu) cause carrying a delta forever on a package we fundamentally don't care about is icky.
[12:12] <xnox> yes.
[12:12] <infinity> xnox: Well, /etc/apt on Debian, and /usr/share on *all* non-Debian derivatives seems the sensible split there.
[12:13] <xnox> infinity, well, they still ship /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg and /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-removed-keys.gpg
[12:13] <xnox> and things like facy cowbuilders / pbuilders / schroots what not use that to authenticate debian debootstraps
[12:13] <infinity> Ahh.  So it would just be a matter of not shipping the conffile ones.  Sure.  Same argument, though.
[12:13] <xnox> yeap.
[12:13] <xnox> i will follow up with debian about it, after verifying past behaviour.
[12:14] <infinity> xnox: From my POV, my carefactor is low.  We implicitly trust Debian in so many ways that it doesn't bug me.  But not trusting their binary archives by default at least is maybe a small deterrent to users accidentally shooting themselves in the foot by installing from them?
[12:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (zesty-proposed/main) [4.10.0-20.22] (core, kernel)
[12:15] <xnox> it's 7 more keys we do not control, which can be compromised and execute impersanation attack on all ubuntu zesty systems.
[12:15] <xnox> which have that package isntalled.....
[12:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sosreport (artful-proposed/main) [3.3+git50-g3c0349b-2 => 3.4-1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[12:16] <infinity> xnox: Yeah, the security surface bugs me a lot less than it bugs you.  If Debian had a key compromised, I think we'd all care even if no one used it to attack Ubuntu users. :P
[12:16] <infinity> xnox: And we'd sort it ASAP.
[12:16] <xnox> infinity, also I do not see it in the xubuntu-desktop =)
[12:17] <xnox> where do you see that?
[12:17] <infinity> $ apt-cache show debian-archive-keyring | grep ^Task
[12:17] <infinity> Task: xubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop
[12:17] <infinity> Being pulled in as a dep of something else, I'm sure.  Didn't look closely.
[12:17] <xnox> fun. the metapackage does not have it directly.
[12:17] <xnox> =/
[12:17] <xnox> yeah.
[12:21] <infinity> Laney: Oh, your assertion that "block-all source" would prevent tests being triggered is clearly untrue, as all stable series' have that hint in place and get tests.
[12:21] <infinity> Laney: But I haven't made britney run for artsy yet, so no big deal.
[12:22] <infinity> (Working on that after I sort out why I'm awake at 6am)
[12:27] <Laney> infinity: Oh well.
[12:27] <Laney> They won't work anyawy, since no cloud image and no LXD image.
[12:28] <xnox> Laney, i thought for archive opening pitti would do some hack to copy zesty images locally somehow and tweak the sources.
[12:28] <xnox> or i wonder if Odd_Bloke can magically build artful images for us =)
[12:29] <Laney> I know. I could do that for cloud images if there weren't 9999 jobs running.
[12:29] <xnox> yeah =)
[12:30] <Laney> Don't really fancy doing it for lxd though.
[12:30] <Laney> Maybe stgraber can turn that on quickly.
[13:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (zesty-proposed/main) [1.0.81ubuntu3 => 1.0.81ubuntu3.1] (core)
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.28+17.04 => 2.29+17.04] (no packageset)
[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.0.81ubuntu2.1 => 1.0.81ubuntu2.2] (core)
[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2.28+16.10 => 2.29+16.10] (no packageset)
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (xenial-proposed/main) [1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.2 => 1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.3] (core)
[13:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (trusty-proposed/main) [1.0.59ubuntu0.6 => 1.0.59ubuntu0.7] (core)
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debootstrap (precise-proposed/main) [1.0.40~ubuntu0.11 => 1.0.40~ubuntu0.12] (core)
[14:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapcraft (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.28 => 2.29] (no packageset)
[14:19] <apw> sergiusens, hey does that snapcraft upload for zesty fix the ADT test failures, the hard version on package hello ?
[14:19] <apw> sergiusens, i assume not as there is no delta from yakkety to zesty
[14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: devscripts (artful-proposed/main) [2.16.8ubuntu2 => 2.17.5ubuntu1] (core)
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted devscripts [source] (artful-proposed) [2.17.5ubuntu1]
[14:29] <slangasek> xnox: I have debian-archive-keyring installed here on my laptop; therefore, no
[14:30] <xnox> slangasek, can you expand on the "therefore no"?
[14:30] <xnox> slangasek, or you mean you run debian =)))))
[14:30]  * xnox exposes slangasek
[14:30] <slangasek> xnox: I have it installed, I don't recall why, but I definitely don't have it installed with the intent of trusting Debian sources
[14:30] <xnox> ack
[14:31] <xnox> slangasek, you have it installed because you installed ubuntu-dev-tools
[14:31] <slangasek> ok
[14:31] <slangasek> then I *definitely* don't want apt trusting it just because
[14:33]  * apw reviews zesty gnome bits ...
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-settings-daemon [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:41] <apw> jbicha, gnome-control-center seems to have some alsa bits in it, is that right ?
[14:42] <sergiusens> apw: yes it does -> the SRU but has a link to this, but here is my home work https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/in-progress-snapcraft-2-29/346?u=sergiusens
[14:43] <sergiusens> apw: all adt runs for the final commit that made this a deb to dput are documented there
[14:44] <sergiusens> apw: I would appreciate this being accepted, we can all be happy with the green in there ;-)
[14:45] <jbicha> apw: yes, that's mentioned (briefly) in LP: #1682138 as changes to the Sound panel
[14:45] <apw> sergiusens, so did you remove the hello=version in the snapcraft.yaml's in the tests ?  as they would have to differ now in zesty and yakkety and do not seem to
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-photos [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:46] <apw> jbicha, thanks
[14:46] <sergiusens> apw: no, I use an rmadison style of check to get the version for hello
[14:47] <jbicha> apw: it comes from the 2 libgnome-volume-control commits (which aren't loading for me right now)
[14:47] <sergiusens> apw: https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1269/files
[14:49] <apw> sergiusens, thanks that covers it ...
[14:49] <apw> sergiusens, will re-review those after i've done the gnome ones
[14:50] <stgraber> Laney: I'll sort out the LXD images (images: remote)
[14:50] <Laney> cheers
[14:51] <jbicha> thanks
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-control-center [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-desktop3 [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:08] <apw> jbicha, ^ ok i think that is all the gnome PR bits accepted ... have fun testing
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.29+17.04]
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [4.10.0-20.22]
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.29+16.10]
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapcraft [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.29]
[15:14] <apw> sergiusens, ^ all yours
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted multipath-tools [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.6.4-3ubuntu4]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted open-vm-tools [source] (zesty-proposed) [2:10.1.5-5055683-1ubuntu1.1]
[15:30] <sergiusens> apw: thanks!
[15:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-welcome [source] (zesty-proposed) [17.04.12]
[16:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar [source] (zesty-proposed) [20161203-1ubuntu1]
[16:23] <apw> acheronUK, hey ... i take it the version change is expected
[16:27] <acheronUK> apw: k3b? yes. previous git snapshots were that 17.04 stable branch in reality anyway. now using that release tarball instead, we can call it what it really is
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted k3b [source] (zesty-proposed) [17.04.0-0ubuntu1]
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-tx-tftp [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.1~bzr47-0ubuntu1]
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected caja [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.18.1-0ubuntu2]
[16:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (zesty-proposed/main) [2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5 => 2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5.1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[16:51] <Laney> autopkgtest is good now
[16:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected neutron [sync] (zesty-proposed) [2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5.1]
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (zesty-proposed) [2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5.1]
[17:23] <infinity> Laney: Excellent.
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.0.81ubuntu3.1]
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (precise-proposed) [1.0.40~ubuntu0.12]
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.0.59ubuntu0.7]
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.78+nmu1ubuntu1.3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debootstrap [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.0.81ubuntu2.2]
[18:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dpkg (artful-proposed/main) [1.18.23ubuntu3 => 1.18.23ubuntu4] (core)
[18:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpkg [source] (artful-proposed) [1.18.23ubuntu4]
[18:11] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ lxc image list images: | grep artful
[18:11] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful (3 more)          | 81b35bcddd7f | yes    | Ubuntu artful amd64 (20170421_14:51)     | x86_64  | 81.99MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:11] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful/arm64 (1 more)    | baf9f38b9100 | yes    | Ubuntu artful arm64 (20170421_14:51)     | aarch64 | 75.98MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:12] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful/armhf (1 more)    | f47e3c98e88c | yes    | Ubuntu artful armhf (20170421_14:51)     | armv7l  | 77.37MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:12] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful/i386 (1 more)     | 64479ceb774a | yes    | Ubuntu artful i386 (20170421_14:51)      | i686    | 82.68MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:12] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful/ppc64el (1 more)  | 53ffa4274eb1 | yes    | Ubuntu artful ppc64el (20170421_14:51)   | ppc64le | 80.38MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:12] <stgraber> | ubuntu/artful/s390x (1 more)    | 9e0cca6b9f75 | yes    | Ubuntu artful s390x (20170421_14:51)     | s390x   | 77.33MB  | Apr 21, 2017 at 12:00am (UTC) |
[18:12] <stgraber> Laney: ^ very much untested
[18:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-artwork (artful-proposed/universe) [17.04.12 => 17.10.0] (ubuntu-mate)
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: walinuxagent (xenial-proposed/main) [2.2.6-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 2.2.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: walinuxagent (zesty-proposed/main) [2.2.6-0ubuntu1 => 2.2.9-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: walinuxagent (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.2.6-0ubuntu1~16.10.1 => 2.2.9-0ubuntu1~16.10.1] (ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: walinuxagent (trusty-proposed/main) [2.2.6-0ubuntu1~14.04.1 => 2.2.9-0ubuntu1~14.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[18:26] <flexiondotorg> apw I see you rejected my SRU upload for Caja.
[18:27] <flexiondotorg> I'm a bit confused, the bug is referenced in Changes.
[18:32] <apw> flexiondotorg: it was referenced in the changelog but somehow not in .changes, and it is that the tools key off of
[18:32] <apw> i don't know quite how that is possible
[18:32] <flexiondotorg> I've download the change and the LP reference is there.
[18:33] <apw> in .changes?
[18:33] <flexiondotorg> From the rejection email, yes.
[18:33] <infinity> flexiondotorg: It's not in .changes
[18:34] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Did you build on Debian?
[18:34] <flexiondotorg> infinity I built on Zesty.
[18:34] <apw> flexiondotorg: in the changelog fragment or the foo-bugs: header
[18:34] <apw> it is the latter which matters
[18:35] <apw> and there was none to my eye
[18:35] <flexiondotorg> I'll double check debian/changelog and rebuild.
[18:36] <apw> check for a launchpad-bugs: header in _changes
[18:37] <infinity> flexiondotorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24428437/
[18:37] <infinity> flexiondotorg: When I regen your changes on zesty, I get that.
[18:38] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Also, if you aren't a masochist, you might want to avoid "-sa".
[18:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-welcome (artful-proposed/universe) [17.04.11 => 17.10.0] (ubuntu-mate)
[18:38] <infinity> flexiondotorg: That just forces you to reupload .orig every time.
[18:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity Not clear if I should I still re-upload?
[18:40] <infinity> Well, I could upload this for you.  *shrug*
[18:40] <flexiondotorg> I've done nothing different to how I'd normally upload, so I'm curious why this wasn't correctly formatted.
[18:41] <infinity> Pretty much the only way to not get that header is for you to be running on !ubuntu.
[18:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity I prepare uploads as follows: dpkg-buildpackage -d -S -sa
[18:41] <infinity> Or for dpkg-vendor to not claim you're using Ubuntu.
[18:41] <flexiondotorg> What would you suggest?
[18:41] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Drop the '-sa' if you're uploading something that already has an orig in the archive, but that's not the source of this issue.  Just a convenience thing.
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[18:42] <flexiondotorg> infinity I will re-upload and drop the '-sa'.
[18:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I already did.
[18:42] <flexiondotorg> Or not :-)
[18:42] <infinity> See above.
[18:42] <flexiondotorg> Thanks infinity.
[18:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: But, like I said, the '-sa' isn't the problem here, it's the lack of Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: field.
[18:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Which implies your dpkg-dev doesn't think you're using Ubuntu.
[18:43] <flexiondotorg> Well, I've been uploading everything from that zesty VM for weeks, and some new packages for artful just now.
[18:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Output of "dpkg-vendor --is ubuntu && echo Yay" and "ls -l /etc/dpkg/origins/" might be enlightening.
[18:47] <flexiondotorg> infinity OK, found the issue.
[18:47] <infinity> Colour me curious.
[18:47] <flexiondotorg> I use direnv to switch DEBNAME, DEBEMAIL etc
[18:48] <flexiondotorg> Because these packages are sent to Debian git direnv sets DEB_VENDOR="Debian"
[18:48] <flexiondotorg> When in that directory tree.
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[20:32] <slangasek> infinity: I guess zesty-proposed -> artful-proposed copies aren't done yet?
[20:32] <slangasek> (don't know where this is on the list without digging it up; vaguely interested in having the pending-sru report restored to sanity)
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[20:57] <infinity> slangasek: They're happening shortly.
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[20:59] <slangasek> infinity: sounds good
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[23:42] <tsimonq2> The person who did that looked at my bug, thank you whoever that is :D
[23:43] <tsimonq2> (vlc)
[23:43] <tsimonq2> For the record, it's not urgent to get in right away, as I was just looking at merges.ubuntu.com, but it should go in when the archive opens for development.
[23:49] <mapreri> tsimonq2: it won't be approved anyway.  It'll stay in the queue with all the other ~80 uploads currently there waiting until the base toolchain for artful is laid, and then the queue will be disabled and emptied.
[23:50] <tsimonq2> mapreri: Ah ok, I didn't know what happened to uploads pre-archive opening.