[00:00] <actafool> i have always
[00:00] <actafool> when i moving windows
[00:00] <tyrant> for the rest i remember installing the ati driver using envy
[00:00] <actafool> ..
[00:00] <onetinsoldier> asterix: well, i think it's only effected users that have the compositing extension enabled. and it looks like they 'might' have fixed that so it may be a non-issue now
[00:00] <Zelda> anyone know how to keep the user switcher panel from changing power button icons when I load pidgin?
[00:00] <ermoved> mikegriffin, the xfce environment is easy to configure, yes.
[00:00] <tyrant> actafool, how did you install your grao
[00:00] <actafool> flickering or Blinking is the exactly problem..
[00:00] <nbeebo> mikegriffin, its well enough, but you should try it first..
[00:00] <asterix> onetinsoldier: what is the compositing extension?
[00:00] <tyrant> actafool, how did you install your graphic driver
[00:00] <ermoved> can someone tell me why in the heck gnomebaker is defaulting to a 20 minute cd when i try to make an audio cd project?  it wont let me finish importing this m3u.. arg
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i can tell you how to enable it
[00:01] <mikegriffin> i know i should but i hate to waste a cdr and 15 minutes if i dont have to. does it at least have a network manager?
[00:01] <asterix> onetinsoldier: do you mean the extra settings for the advanced effects?
[00:01] <actafool> system - Admin -> hardware drivers
[00:01] <actafool> and i actvated nvidia 177...
[00:01] <trifecta> is it bad that i installed the latest nvidia driver through the recovery console?
[00:01] <actafool> then reboot and all ok but flickers..
[00:01] <trifecta> without changing the telinit
[00:01] <Zelda> anyone?
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> asterix: no.. but i think to get the full effect of that 'appearance' preference, you'll need ot have the compositing extension enabled
[00:02] <tyrant> actafool, ok i am using an old nvidia 173 ui think , and install it using envyng
[00:02] <onetinsoldier> to*
[00:02] <shovi> How can i get the Network Managers Keyring to become Automated, instead of it asking me EVERY TIME????
[00:02] <trifecta> Zelda, no idea buddy
[00:02] <asterix> onetinsoldier: ok how do I enable it?
[00:02] <Zelda> ok thanks.
[00:02] <actafool> where to find and install envyng
[00:02] <bluntz> didnt think ubuntu was still supporting ppc
[00:02] <nbeebo> mikegriffin, u can install it on ubuntu
[00:02] <trifecta> in synaptic actafool
[00:02] <tyrant> sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[00:02] <trifecta> or what tyrant said
[00:02] <actafool> thanks i will try now
[00:03] <trifecta> i find synaptic easier :P
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> asterix: you need to edit the file as root.. so gksu or su... depending on whether you use a gui editor or not, and open up the  /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. tell me when you're there
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> asterix: gksu or sudo*
[00:03] <trifecta> sudo su?
[00:03] <nbeebo> mikegriffin, our you could try it on vmware or virtualbox
[00:03] <cmdbbq> I ran rhythmbox -d and got the following while trying to add a podcast (19:02:06) [0x8a97698] [rb_podcast_parse_load_feed] rb-podcast-parse.c:202: Parsing http://wtkk.everyzing.com/results.jsp?s=PZSID_0000712197;Eagan+%26amp%3B+Braude+Podcast&start=0&num=10&col=en-aud-pod_wtkk-ep&filter=0&dedupe=1&expand=true&match=query,channel&x=0&y=0&il=en as a Podcast failed
[00:03] <onetinsoldier> trifecta: yes. typo of mine
[00:03] <actafool> i looking for fix for this problem whole day im so nerveous now
[00:03] <trifecta> lol
[00:04] <zsquareplusc> trifecta: no, use sudo -i if you really want to do that
[00:04] <barbar__conan> hi to all
[00:04] <barbar__conan> is there anyway to use synaptic with aria?
[00:04] <bluntz> barbar
[00:04] <tonsofpcs> n8tuser - ok, i had to disable NetworkManager as well to get it to work, but it appears to be working now
[00:04] <ermoved> !pastebin
[00:04] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay got it open
[00:04] <b3z3rk3r> hey, im struggling to setup a direct cable connection to my windows desktop from my Ubuntu 8.10 laptop, can anyone help me???
[00:04] <barbar__conan> bluntz: yes
[00:04] <n8tuser> tonsofpcs -> am glad it worked for you
[00:04] <bluntz> hi thats all
[00:05] <barbar__conan> (: ok
[00:05] <trifecta> is it bad that i installed the latest nvidia driver through the recovery console?without changing the telinit?
[00:05] <asterix> onetinsoldier: why is my gedit showing up on all four faces of my cube though?
[00:05] <tyrant> actafool, dont get nervous , u have to relax and take your time christmas
[00:05] <hellrasier> hola weans
[00:05] <actafool> all is okay
[00:05] <actafool> except this
[00:05] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: ethernet? is it a crossed cable?
[00:05] <actafool> :)
[00:05] <barbar__conan> bluntz: do u know any way that i told?
[00:05] <bluntz> srry missed ur ?
[00:05] <actafool> i hope this will help
[00:05] <actafool> :)
[00:05] <trifecta> is it bad that i installed the latest nvidia driver through the recovery console?without changing the telinit? or editing my xorg?
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. this pastebin will show you how... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6e5db6b3  ...never mind my "Driver"  "sis" line that was an example for someone with a Savage card
[00:06] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, yes, the windows xp box can see samba shares on ubuntu.. but not the other way round???
[00:06] <barbar__conan> bluntz: is there any way that i use synaptic with aria or wget?Any idea?
[00:06] <n8tuser> b3z3rk3r -> both ends have an ip address, and gateway? route table okay?
[00:06] <onetinsoldier> asterix: and yo don't need all the extra carriage return either
[00:06] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: ah, so the network is already working. you probably have a windoze firewall that things the network is not local
[00:06] <bluntz> synaptic uses apt-get
[00:06] <b3z3rk3r> n8tuser, i have manually assigned ip's to both and same subnet and workgroup
[00:07] <Deftone7> DarkSotM: there's only SATA, RAID, and AHCI
[00:07] <n8tuser> b3z3rk3r -> gateway?
[00:07] <asterix> onetinsoldier: so just put the extensions section at the end?
[00:07] <SQlvpapir> http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=4b9baa900fba41b4151ac0f19d0cf590
[00:07] <Deftone7> I tried all settings and no dice bro.
[00:07] <tyrant> trifecta, editing the xorg doesnt work anymore because if you have an error in it gnome is gonna make a new one
[00:07] <b3z3rk3r> n8tuser, not sure what that is or does?
[00:07] <DarkSotM> deftone7: try booting with all_generic_ide added
[00:07] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: heh, actually both PC should automatically grab an IP from the zeroconf range (169.x) but if you already have it working with static IPs it's ok too
[00:07] <n8tuser> b3z3rk3r -> it is required to get to the far end
[00:07] <Deftone7> yep
[00:07] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, so i should just disable firewall?
[00:07] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i put mine below the "Device" Section.. but i don't think it matters where you put the Section in the file
[00:08] <cdeszaq1> can GParted from a live CD be used to safely grow a windows NTFS partition while shrinking an ext3 data partition?
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> asterix: just as long as it's in there
[00:08] <bluntz> whats wrong with using apt?
[00:08] <Ghoul> Why does my kbd layout switch ot qwerty after reboot when by default i have only 1 layout USA - Colemak in System > preferences > keyboard > layouts | after reboot it still says USA-Colemak but in fact it's qwerty; only after i remove and add it again it goes back to colemak...
[00:08] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: if you dont have and other direct connection to the internet, yes, temporarily disable it
[00:08] <barbar__conan> bluntz: yes i know.Sorry my mistold.Any partial and segmented chance with downlading packages?
[00:08] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay and now reboot?
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> asterix: no
[00:08] <tyrant> cdeszaq1, vista or xp
[00:08] <barbar__conan> deb packages
[00:08] <cdeszaq1> tyrant: xp
[00:08] <Ghoul> ideas what the bleep is going on?!
[00:08] <cmdbbq> when i try to add a podcast to rhythmbox i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/91893/ ubuntu 8.04 rhythmbox 0.11.5
[00:08] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, both machines have Dc to iNet
[00:08] <onetinsoldier> asterix: log out of X. then press  Ctl+Alt+Backspace... then log back in
[00:09] <tyrant> cdeszaq1, xp is ok , i did it once with vista and the vista was lost
[00:09] <asterix> ok
[00:09] <cdeszaq1> tyrant: ok, thanks
[00:09] <tyrant> cdeszaq1, but xp i did it like 10 times it worked
[00:09] <bluntz> why cant you use apt?
[00:09] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: you inserted a second NIC to do the direct connection?
[00:09] <tyrant> cdeszaq1
[00:09] <barbar__conan> bluntz: apt-get supports segmented downloading?
[00:10] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, yes.. its a gaming rig i built to double as my media storage
[00:10] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: if you could disable the firewall on the windoze side for just this connection?
[00:10] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, i can try.. lemme se if that works
[00:11] <bluntz> not sure but it remembers what it downloads and if interupted it will give you another chance to get the files
[00:11] <eternaljoy> how much is 20Mbps in MB/s?  1.8?
[00:11] <tyrant> divide by 8
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hi, did that work for you?
[00:11] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay looks like it worked fine
[00:12] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I don't perceive any difference but I guess it's working
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> asterix: hmm, ok. because i have noticed something when it come to the fglrx driver
[00:12] <bluntz> I think only rsync  may be what ur after
[00:12] <wiijii> Can WMs such as openbox, fluxbox etc be used with Ubuntu?
[00:12] <Maxi_Barrabalero> bitech
[00:12] <Maxi_Barrabalero> bitch
[00:12] <barbar__conan> bluntz: problem is not to continue.problem is segmented download.mmmh like split a file and downlad 5 part of them
[00:12] <tyrant> eternaljoy, so it makes 2.5 MBZ
[00:12] <barbar__conan> (:
[00:13] <gogzmer> wiijii: yes
[00:13] <eternaljoy> tyrant: ehats MBZ?
[00:13] <bluntz> ask tyrant may know
[00:13] <tyrant> MB/s
[00:13] <barbar__conan> hmmm
[00:13] <gogzmer> MegaBytes per Zecond
[00:13] <barbar__conan> ok
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> asterix: if you try and shutdown X altogether, and the restart it. GDM nor KDM seem to get along with doing that with the flgrx driver i've noticed. it does seem to take a reboot
[00:13] <eternaljoy> tyrant: so 20Mbps is 2.5 MegaBytes per sec?
[00:13] <onetinsoldier> asterix: now, with that said....
[00:13] <tyrant> ye
[00:13] <barbar__conan> thank u so much (:
[00:13] <tyrant> m
[00:13] <hischild> eternaljoy, minus 10% overhead
[00:13] <tyrant> yes
[00:13] <wiijii> gogzmer WIth how much of a pain in the neck? Are you using something apart from Gnome/XFCE/KDE?
[00:13] <tyrant> str
[00:13] <eternaljoy> tyrant: how u figure?
[00:13] <FloodBot3> tyrant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <gogzmer> hischild: why 10%?
[00:14] <eternaljoy> hischild: how u calculate from Mbps to MB/s?
[00:14] <gogzmer> wiijii: i'm not, but I know others have done it
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: if you're trying to guess a download rate by comparing the Mbit/s per second, there may be some overhead. so the actual rate may be /10 or /12
[00:14] <tyrant> eternaljoy,  divide by 8
[00:14] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, still not working, i should probably mention that i am using a uni campus network too. i can see many other machines, but not my windows desktop
[00:14] <bluntz> 8 bits per byte i do believe
[00:15] <tyrant> eternaljoy, 1 byte is 8 bit
[00:15] <sebsebseb> what's the difference between the 64bit desktop and alternate cd, other than the alternate being text based, and apparnatly the user being able to choose which programs to install on installation, as well as making the partition encrypted
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> asterix: you might not notice much difference unless you hve the compiz setting cranked up. install, smms or whatever it is
[00:15] <hischild> eternaljoy, divide by 8, then 10% overhead.
[00:15] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: ok, cheers big ears :-)
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> !info cssm
[00:15] <wiijii> gogzmer OK cheers
[00:15] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: so its not a direct cable connection but over a LAN. ok. so dont turn off firewalls.. :-)  you say it works one way? there may be a firewall within the network too
[00:15] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I've got a pretty fast new machine so I think it'll be pretty smooth no matter what :)
[00:15] <hischild> gogzmer, 10% overhead is a very safe amount to subtract. TCP/IP has quite some overhead on data.
[00:15] <quentusrex_> For some reason ubuntu doesn't detect my display properly. I'm using an hdmi cable. I see the 'desktop' twice on the top half of the screen, and scrambled on the bottom half.
[00:15] <tyrant> sebsebseb, with the alternate cd you can install from network also and other technical stuff
[00:16] <eternaljoy> hischild: ok!  well thats good then. im going on broadband plan that says "UP to 20Mbps"... so that means I can get UP to 2.5MB/s... but in reality it probably will be 1.1MB/s.... right?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> tyrant:  yes that's what I am interested in the technical stuff
[00:16] <sebsebseb> tyrant:  ,but what technical stuff exactly?
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> asterix: install this...  apt-get install simple-ccsm
[00:16] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: i'd expect around 2MB/s or a bit more, not just 1.1
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> asterix: tellme when you have that installed
[00:16] <eternaljoy> hischild: are wireless modems good?  They connect using Wireless in my Notebook?
[00:17] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, haha this is getting complicated.. yes it is a DC cable between the laptop and desktop. But the desktop has other NIC's connecting to LAN which the laptop connects to wirelessly.. see?   :P
[00:17] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: if I got 1Megabytes per sec download. I would be happy.
[00:17] <wiijii> What is pulseaudio, and can it be gotten rid of? I want alsamixer to actually show my card mixer levels
[00:17] <tyrant> sebsebseb, i dont know anymore but i used it to install from an iso instead of burning it to cd
[00:17] <hischild> eternaljoy, depending on how far your central is, you'll get between 1 and 2.3MB/s. That's my experience so far with it.
[00:17] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: thats 600MB per 10 mins
[00:17] <eternaljoy> hischild: gotcha cheers big ears :-)
[00:17] <hischild> eternaljoy, and yeah they can serve you more then enough speed.
[00:17] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay it's installed
[00:17] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: your ubuntu cd'a'day? ;-)
[00:18] <sebsebseb> tyrant:  yes I got the  64bit  desktop  ISO  burnt to a CD,  that  I will  use to  replace 32bit hardy  with 64bit ibex on other computer,  well  unless  I have a reason to use the alternate I suppouse
[00:18] <eternaljoy> hischild: so a wireless modem wont slow it down, seing its wireless from my Laptop to the Modem?   data can travel 2MB/s through the air?
[00:18] <Jaza> can anyone tell me what this might mean ,change the IP Address to an address that’s outside the dynamically assigned range of your network?
[00:18] <SQlvpapir> please help me with this http://www.fianceexposed.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=4b9baa900fba41b4151ac0f19d0cf590
[00:18] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: I cannot use 8.10.. im on 8.04
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok... System --> Preferences --> Simple CompizConfig Settings Manager  ...tell me when you have that open
[00:18] <tyrant> there is no reason sebsebseb , just use the normal desktop method which offers the livecd also
[00:19] <hischild> eternaljoy, yup. Can do more actually, but that's another subject.
[00:19] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: you have different IPs for your own cable than for the other conenctions? did you check the output of "route" on each so that this IP range goes through the 2nd NIC?
[00:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: it opened for a split second and then dissapeared
[00:19] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: using 8.10 uses 250inode and my Acronis Trueimage wont support it :(  so im stuck on 8.04
[00:19] <tyrant> eternaljoy, i have a 16mbit connection and i only get 1.2
[00:19] <eternaljoy> tyrant: ok
[00:19] <Lemonwedge> anyone know how to take the border off of the image icon preview?
[00:19] <asterix> onetinsoldier: but I've already got the settings manager installed... think that might be conflicting?
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok. i've had that happen one time before..
[00:19] <hischild> tyrant, and i got a 20mbit connection and i get 2.3
[00:19] <tyrant> hischild, lucky for you ,
[00:20] <sebsebseb> tyrant:  well  I guess not in my case, because  not going to network install  and  partition being encrypted I have no reason for this.   what features are avaiable on the alternate CD?  I could  install virtual machine software  again and  download the ISO and run it in that to find out, but I guess you know since you used it
[00:20] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, im not sure how to do that? can you point me to a guide?
[00:20] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay it's open now on the second try
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> asterix: no... this is a different one,and they don't conflict
[00:20] <eternaljoy> Acronis Trueimage 11 will only read 8.04, inode 128... but Ubuntu 8.10 started using inode 256 :(((  So Im stuck on 8.04 !  BAD MISTAKE UBUNTU :(
[00:20] <hischild> tyrant, when it comes to computer stuff, i'm always lucky
[00:20] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: you can probably configure that with the inodes. or when you upgrade you keep the current filesystem format
[00:20] <eternaljoy> any solution?
[00:20] <Jaza> can anyone tell me what this might mean ,change the IP Address to an address that’s outside the dynamically assigned range of your network?
[00:20] <ilyas_> where ubuntu mirror i want update my ubuntu 5
[00:20] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: if I upgrade to 8.10 now?  will it alter the inode from 128 to inode 256?
[00:20] <tyrant> hischild, i reaally envy you
[00:20] <wiijii> Can someone help me with this Pulseaudio madness? How do I get my proper alsamixer channels back??
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. the top drop-down menu... select Advanced then click the green checkmark on the far upper right
[00:21] <bluntz> Jaza it means change from lan ip to wan ip
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> asterix: doh, i measnt 'Ultimate'
[00:21] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: not really. well did you look at the output of "route print"? if you know how to apply netmasks, it isn't difficult to read
[00:21] <tyrant> eternaljoy, what do you need acronis for
[00:21] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay it's set
[00:21] <unop> route print??
[00:21] <gogzmer> what will this command do: e2fsck -f /dev/sda2   ?
[00:21] <hischild> tyrant, don't. I've got more then enough issues.
[00:21] <ilyas_> alsamixer u must have alsa module in u kernel
[00:22] <actafool_> deamn
[00:22] <actafool_> this dont works for me
[00:22] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: isn't that a setting that can only be changed when a partition is formated? (i don't know..) so in a upgrade your filesystem is not formated and keeps the inode setting
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok, go to the animations tab.. select some thing for the 'Open Window' and 'Close Window' drop-down menus
[00:22] <actafool_> i installing it but highest resolution is 640x480
[00:22] <tyrant> actafool, didnt work
[00:22] <burkmat> Good evening all, and happy holidays. My issue is with rdesktop, and I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but nonetheless: While attempting to RD into a Windows Server 2003 machine the connection establishes, and I see it pop up for a millisecond before disconnecting again. First of all, does anyone know how I can make rdesktop verbose or check the error in any way? Right now it's a silent disconnect.
[00:22] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: are you 100% certain?
[00:22] <actafool_> yes it didnt work
[00:23] <w3wsrmn> gogzmer: It'll perform a filesystem check that device.
[00:23] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: how do I upgrade to 8.10?
[00:23] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i use Beam Up or Magic Lamp for open... then Explode for the close... hehe
[00:23] <tyrant> actafool, maybe your problem now is the monitor
[00:23] <actafool_> well it write..
[00:23] <cmdbbq> when i try to add a podcast to rhythmbox i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/91893/ ubuntu 8.04 rhythmbox 0.11.5
[00:23] <bluntz> gogzmer see w3wsrmn
[00:23] <actafool_> it need 85 hz
[00:23] <eternaljoy> !~upgrade to 8.10
[00:23] <eternaljoy> !upgrade to 8.10
[00:23] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, DC Cable isnt showing up on "route -e"
[00:23] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: no i'm not.  upgarde info you can get with /msg ubottu upgrade
[00:23] <eternaljoy>  /msg ubottu upgrade
[00:24] <tyrant> actafool, do you have compiz working now otr not
[00:24] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay these seem to be things I had set in the other settings manager...  but somehow I've now lost the ability to middle click and rotate the cube.
[00:24] <actafool_> Recommended resolution 1024x768 at 85 Hz
[00:24] <actafool_> i have
[00:24] <actafool_> compiz
[00:24] <Jaza> bluntz: when changing a static IP address what do I change it to?
[00:24] <compubomb> how do you change the default audio player in ubuntu ? say for instance, it will load up a certain player for .mp3, a certain player for .avi etc.
[00:25] <compubomb> or a certain player for .rm
[00:25] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: you dont see the second interface there? but ifconfig shows it is configured?  then you may need to add a route manually
[00:25] <tyrant> actafool_, try installing some older driver using envyng
[00:25] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, i dont mind if i cant use te dc cable as speed isnt important, i just want to be able to access my data on my gaming box. im only setting up the crossover for synergy
[00:25] <actafool_> i installed
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> asterix: oh.. i see. i've never really used the cube i guess. i would recommend... one last reboot to make certain, the Composite Extension has take and even for these Compiz settings(i notice they took a restart of X one time).
[00:25] <actafool_> all that have there
[00:25] <bluntz> for a server or what
[00:25] <actafool_> but only this works fine for me
[00:26] <onetinsoldier> asterix: has taken*
[00:26] <zsquareplusc> compubomb: open the properties of a file of the desired type and go to the "open with" tab to configure applications
[00:26] <tyrant> actafool_, you mean setting to lower resolution or what
[00:26] <actafool_> yes
[00:26] <actafool_> setting to lower resolution
[00:26] <actafool_> they all works
[00:26] <nbeebo> shoutcast station wont show up in BMPX anymore
[00:26] <actafool_> but no high resolution
[00:26] <actafool_> and
[00:26] <actafool_> flicking again
[00:27] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: i use scp/WinSCP to copy files. i don't trust these proprietary formats ;-)
[00:27] <compubomb> zsquareplusc: that was easy
[00:27] <compubomb> :p
[00:27] <tyrant> actafool_, what kinda of hardwre do you have
[00:27] <superfly500> hi peeps wonder if some one can help me am new to linux i have just taken vista off for ubuntu 8.10 everythink is working sopt on apart from now sound i have try installing gmone ALSA mixer never helped and tryed a few command lines but still no sound
[00:27] <actafool_> amd64 3000+ nividia 6150 SE integrated
[00:28] <actafool_> 256 mb
[00:28] <b3z3rk3r> zsquareplusc, i was thinking about using VNC or something similar to achieve this as it would be easier right?
[00:28] <superfly500> no sound*
[00:28] <quentusrex_> Why does Hardy properly detect the hdmi settings for my projector, but 8.10 fails?
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: that's just screen sharing. that wont get your files from one side to the other
[00:29] <bluntz> most likely your going to set it to your ip the public sees and this may be  a problem if it changes
[00:29] <hashbrowns> Gnea: Are you still here?
[00:29] <gogzmer> From the live CD, I am trying to shrink an ext3 partition with GParted and it keeps failing, saying I need to run e2fsck -f /dev/sda2. In the step previously, it pretty much runs that command, but to be sure, I ran it manually anyway and re-tried running GParted, but got the same error. Please help...I just want to shrink some partitions!
[00:29] <Gnea> hashbrowns: for a bit
[00:29] <c4pt> how can i repair my b43 driver?
[00:29] <peaces> anyone know how to fix this problem; every time i  suspend or hibernate my computer and come back the wireless will not connect to the original network.  I have to restart my computer.
[00:29] <b3z3rk3r> used ti before, if i remember right you could transfer files too?
[00:29] <bluntz> if it does ,dynamic DNS will fix it up.
[00:29] <Lemonwedge> is there a way to remove the border around image previews in the icons for images on your desktop?
[00:29] <zsquareplusc> b3z3rk3r: only one special version.
[00:29] <hashbrowns> Gnea:  Okay so I backed up the data on my C drive and I need to do a reinstall right?
[00:30] <bluntz> its free to
[00:30] <Jaza> bluntz: when changing a static IP address what do I change it to?
[00:30] <superfly500> hi peeps wonder if some one can help me am new to linux i have just taken vista off for ubuntu 8.10 everythink is working sopt on apart from now sound i have try installing gmone ALSA mixer never helped and tryed a few command lines but still no sound any pointers would be great thanks?
[00:30] <b3z3rk3r> oh, which version is that then?
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> asterix: still here? i would recommend one last reboot to make certain that the Composite Extension has taken, and even for these Compiz settings(i notice they took a restart once).
[00:30] <bluntz> it depends
[00:30] <incubii> !sound
[00:30] <actafool_> deam this..
[00:30] <quentusrex_> Why does Hardy properly detect the hdmi settings for my projector, but 8.10 fails?
[00:30] <bluntz> what are you changing the adress of? the box?
[00:30] <actafool_> stuupid prob..
[00:31] <superfly500> cheers
[00:31] <Gnea> hashbrowns: basically, just go through the procedure - once you get to the hd partition, pay close attention to the options presented to you
[00:31] <tyrant> actafool_, did you try "xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 --refresh 85" in  terminal
[00:31] <Elite> hi
[00:31] <gogzmer> superfly500: try the stuff linked too. If it doesn't work for you, come back and I'll try to help out some more
[00:31] <actafool_> nope
[00:31] <actafool_> i will try it now
[00:31]  * onetinsoldier thinks that asterix probably won't be able to stop playing with simple-ccsm now, lol
[00:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yeah...  I was just messing around with the different compiz settings....  I'm sure you know how that can go lol
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> asterix: yes
[00:32] <superfly500> will do cheers
[00:32] <bluntz> generally if you are getting a new ip
[00:32] <cmdbbq> when i try to add a podcast to rhythmbox i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/91893/ ubuntu 8.04 rhythmbox 0.11.5
[00:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: well thanks a TON for the help!
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> asterix: although i can't say i've played with it much yet
[00:32] <bluntz> dhcp wuill work fine
[00:32] <actafool_> xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 --refresh 85" in  terminal
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> asterix: you're welcome!
[00:32] <actafool_> nothing happens
[00:32] <actafool_> wtf
[00:32] <hashbrowns> Gnea: Okay, I chose the partition that windows was peviously installed on and now it either lets me delete the windows folder there or choose a different folder name or quit which should I do?
[00:32] <asterix> onetinsoldier: I think I've learned a few things today and hopefully it'll stick :)
[00:32] <Elite> in ubuntu server how do I monitor my cpu temp?
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: cool :-)
[00:33] <asterix> onetinsoldier: now time to reboot and throw some dinner in the microwave :)
[00:33] <tyrant> b
[00:33] <actafool_> ;(
[00:33] <gogzmer> Elite: does your mobo have a cpu temp probe that the OS can access?
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: ok.. sounds good.. i have a question or two for you!
[00:33] <bluntz> but if its a server,that may not be the right thing to do
[00:33] <asterix> onetinsoldier: yeah?
[00:33] <peaces> why can't i connect back to wireless network when i come back from having my computer hibernation?
[00:33] <Lemonwedge> please, i really wanna get rid of this border around one of my icons that is an image file
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> asterix: i wait until you come back.. ok?
[00:33] <asterix> onetinsoldier: okay... sounds good
[00:33] <Elite> gogzmer: I am sure it does but lmsensors say no
[00:34] <Jaza> what is installer in ubuntu?
[00:34] <tyrant> actafool_, well try googling you videocard and  compiz and see if you get something
[00:34] <actafool_> okay ty
[00:34] <gogzmer> Jaza: apt
[00:34] <Gnea> hashbrowns: you'd better pm me
[00:34] <gogzmer> Jaza: what are you looking to do?
[00:35] <unop> peaces, you might need to get pm-utils to unload your wireless modules before hibernation
[00:36] <peaces> unop: can you elaborate more on that?
[00:36] <Elite> gogzmer: I am sure it does but lmsensors say no
[00:36] <m3> hi
[00:36] <m3> k
[00:36] <m3> k
[00:36] <m3> k
[00:36] <FloodBot3> m3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:36] <Jaza> i'm trying to sync my Iphone on ubuntu
[00:36] <hischild> peaces, it means that it'll disable your wireless before you hibernate, and reload once it comes back out of hibernation.
[00:36] <gogzmer> Elite: unfortunately, I am not too much help. Often people come looking to monitor their cpu temp, but their mobo doesn't support it, so I ask that question first so thet they can figure out if it is even possible. If you are sure your mobo does, than good luck...I have never gotten any sensor package to work for me, and since it really wasn't a big deal, I just forgot about it
[00:36] <tyrant> get a mac Jaza  :P
[00:37] <Jaza> thanks but I already have a PC
[00:37] <tyrant> Jaza, just a joke
[00:37] <peaces> hischild, how do i get that, I'm  assuming its a program
[00:37] <unop> peaces, copy your /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults to /etc/pm  and then edit /etc/pm/defaults to change SUSPEND_MODULES
[00:37] <zsquareplusc> Elite: you dont have output from "sensors"?
[00:37] <bluntz> Jaza needs Jpilot methinks
[00:37] <Jaza> well, I've been trying to get this to work all day
[00:38] <Elite> zsquareplusc: nope notta
[00:38] <peaces> unop: ok I'll give that a try
[00:38] <zsquareplusc> Elite: you haev run sensors-detect?
[00:38] <gogzmer> Is there a way to safely re-size the partitions on my machine without using GParted from a live CD? I keep trying that method, and it keeps failing, telling me I need to do things I already did
[00:38] <Elite> zsquareplusc:  yes
[00:38] <unop> peaces, actually, you need to copy the file into  /etc/pm/config.d/
[00:38] <eternaljoy> when I try to Upgrade from 04 to 10, through UPDATE MANAGER, nothing happens... any other way to upgrade to 8.10?
[00:39] <platius> eternaljoy; http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[00:39] <eternaljoy> platius: i followed that, dont work
[00:39] <gogzmer> eternaljoy: fresh install
[00:39] <gogzmer> :)
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: you need to change from LTS to the fast release cycle. the link above tells you how
[00:39] <unop> eternaljoy, sudo aptitude install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:39] <eternaljoy> gogzmer: I cannot.. i need inode 128
[00:39] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: what?
[00:39] <Jaza> Bluntz I'm trying to figure what this means, Open Installer.
[00:39] <Jaza> Click All Packages ? BSD Subsystem ? Install
[00:39] <Jaza> Click on All Packages ? OpenSSH ? Install.
[00:40] <gogzmer> eternaljoy: backup your data somewhere else, and then do a fresh install, re-formatting to give you the bigger inode size as you go
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: the reason the update manager is doing nothing is that 8.04 is a LTS
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> !lts
[00:40] <peaces> unop: yeah i just noticed that it says DO NOT EDIT THIS lol
[00:40] <eternaljoy> gogzmer: are you listening dude?? i cant. I need inode 128
[00:40] <sonoblaise> Hi!  I'm looking for a good C++ reference in PDF, if possible.  I already found a C book in pdf but it lacks all the OOP thing...  anyone knows where I could find something?
[00:40] <bluntz> think you are in synaptic
[00:40] <Elite> zsquareplusc:  yes I have ran that
[00:40] <incubii> !c++
[00:40] <unop> peaces, once you've copied it to the new location - you can edit it (i.e. ignore the warning)
[00:41] <sonoblaise> !g++
[00:41] <onetinsoldier> sonoblaise: you might try another channel... such as #c++
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> Elite: yeah, sorry. i don't really know then. that helped here..
[00:41] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: im confused.. whats my 1st step then?
[00:41] <peaces> unop: can i pm you
[00:41] <sonoblaise> onetinsoldier:  good idea :p  didn't knew there was a channel for that :p
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: if you want to upgrade http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading tells you how
[00:41] <onetinsoldier> sonoblaise: roger, no worries
[00:42] <Nabbins>  I have a strange issue, I changed my resolution to a lower one using the GUI in ubuntu, but now no matter what resolution I try, whenever I click help or apply nothing happens
[00:42] <trifecta> I'm trying configure Conky using somebody else's config as a base, but I can't seem to get the window sized right. The height is always too much. Any suggestions?
[00:42] <Nabbins> so can't view help or change resolution using default gui screen resolution tool in ubuntu latest
[00:42] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: look at the screenshots there
[00:42] <boxefaq|off> does anyone know how much space the default 8.10 install takes?
[00:42] <tyrant> jaza , found this one for you to make up for my jokee but sounds complicated and only for old ipod firmware https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[00:42] <gogzmer> eternaljoy: why does the OS need to run on inode 128?
[00:43] <trifecta> Does anybody use conky here?
[00:43] <eternaljoy> gogzmer: Acronis Trueimage 11 only support inode 128, not inode 256 in 8.10
[00:43] <jjcalleiro> Hi everyone. I'm new to ubuntu and linux in general. Im a mac user and at work am now using an ubuntu machine. the issue im having is i have these external drives that i use on my mac that have files i need on my work machine. they show up, but it doesnt let me know move things around and save to it. i checked the permissions on the drive and it says the permission of "harddrive" could not be determined.
[00:43] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: how do I change from LTS to the fast release cycle?
[00:43] <trifecta> eternal
[00:43] <eternaljoy> trifecta
[00:43] <ribas1> nite
[00:43] <eternaljoy> ribas1: nite
[00:44] <trifecta> lol ill tell you in a sec
[00:44] <superfly500> is there a way around getting the sound to work in ubuntu 8.10 on the ICH9 chipset its not on the ALSA site
[00:44] <trifecta> i have to look at it to see
[00:44] <eternaljoy> trifecta: yes pls :)
[00:44] <gogzmer> eternaljoy: Right, but why bother with setting the OS to 128? Why do you need an image of the install?
[00:44] <eternaljoy> trifecta: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[00:44] <boxefaq|off> does anyone know how much space the default 8.10 install takes?
[00:44] <Jaza> found it but I'm stuck with Click the Static button and change the IP Address to an address that's outside the dynamically assigned range of your network.
[00:44] <eternaljoy> gogzmer: are you for real man? LOL
[00:44] <jeeves_Moss> what causes a standalone version of ProFTPd to time out on the LIST command?
[00:44] <ribas1> dumb question..have eeeubuntu running ok..eeepc 1000h
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list  ...the do an  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:44]  * eternaljoy ignores gogzmer
[00:44] <Jaza> and    3.
[00:44] <Jaza>       Open Installer.
[00:44] <Jaza>    4.
[00:44] <Jaza>       Click All Packages → BSD Subsystem → Install
[00:44] <Jaza>    5.
[00:44] <FloodBot3> Jaza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <Jaza>       Click on All Packages → OpenSSH → Install.
[00:44] <ribas1> thing is this came with xp
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> wth?
[00:44] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: edit it with what?
[00:44] <ribas1> is gone
[00:45] <trifecta> eternaljoy, go  to: System>Administration>Software Sources> Updates Tab
[00:45] <Jaza> sorry
[00:45] <ribas1> because i detected two cpus with conky
[00:45] <eternaljoy> trifecta: i did that and it shopws UPGRADE TO 8.10
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: perhaps trifecta will guide you :-)
[00:45] <CaneToad> Any ideas why "apt-get install openssh-server" gives an error in ubuntu 8.10?
[00:45] <eternaljoy> trifecta: but when I click it, nothing hjappens
[00:45] <ribas1> can I assume this is dual core ?
[00:45] <gogzmer> superfly500: I had trouble with my sound too...but I don't know what chipset I had
[00:45] <trifecta> hmm
[00:45] <trifecta>  odd
[00:45] <hischild> CaneToad, 1. the error. 2. did you put sudo in front. 3. did you update.
[00:45] <ribas1> like i said  this is dumb question
 eternaljoy: the reason the update manager is doing nothing is that 8.04 is a LTS <-- so whats the fix?
[00:45] <trifecta> it worked for me but I cancelled the upgrade
[00:45] <trifecta> that sounds like a bug
[00:46] <ribas1> 64bit/
[00:46] <gogzmer> superfly500: Can you get sound to work(at all) from any of the sound drivers? (oss, alsa, pulse?)
[00:46] <trifecta> if you cant get it working
[00:46] <eternaljoy> trifecta:  zsquareplusc says its something to do with LTS
[00:46] <CaneToad> hischild, running as root, gives:  dpkg: syntax error in triggers deferred file `/var/lib/dpkg/triggers/Unincorp' at character `�'
[00:46] <ari_stress> hi
[00:46] <eternaljoy> but then zsquareplusc wont tell me how to fix
[00:46] <Nabbins> jjcalleiro: You cannot write to an HFS+ filesystem unless journaling is disabled.
[00:46] <Nabbins> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus
[00:46] <Nabbins> You will still have permissions errors since your Ubuntu user and OSX user are not the same. You will have to make sure you change the permissions of any files in OSX that you want to make sure you can access from in Ubuntu.
[00:46] <FloodBot3> Nabbins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <bluntz> jj may need hfs readability in his kernel to mount those drives
[00:46] <superfly500> from the looks of it IHC9 intel chipset is not supported by ALSA :-(
[00:46] <trifecta> eternaljoy, in the update manager theres a button that says upgrade, correct?
[00:46] <eternaljoy> trifecta: it says "By default Ubuntu 8.04 LTS will not offer a upgrade to 8.10."
[00:47] <trifecta> what
[00:47] <superfly500> nope
[00:47] <borbosha> So I am having a problem, on my Dell XPS M1210, where Xorg never displays the OSD and prevents the keyboard from working when adjusting the brightness with the fn+up arrow on the laptop. The only way I have found to fix it once it happens is to put the computer to sleep and wake it back up. Any ideas how to fix this?
[00:47] <superfly500> works on vista so i no its not hardware
[00:47] <gogzmer> superfly500: For my machine, I have to run under the oss drivers, but I ended up using alsamixer to set the volumes, etc.
[00:47] <trifecta> I'm on 8.04 and I started the upgrade, but cancelled for my own reasons. I know you can.
[00:47] <zsquareplusc> eternaljoy: well if you already see the "upgrade to 8.10" button it should be fine. if that isn't working - i have no idea
[00:47] <borbosha> The brightness actually works it just locks up the Xorg portion of the system.
[00:47] <CaneToad> hischild, here is what I see, with full context:  http://pastebin.com/m72a06f56
[00:47] <hischild> CaneToad, that sounds bad. What did you do before?
[00:47] <hischild> CaneToad, ty, was bout to ask for that
[00:48] <Nabbins> I can't view help or change resolution using default gui screen resolution tool in ubuntu latest
[00:48] <trifecta> You might have to back up everything and then install from a live cd.
[00:48] <CaneToad> hischild, I haven't done anything unusual
[00:48] <hischild> CaneToad, why are you root?
[00:48] <eternaljoy> zsquareplusc: ok
[00:48] <tyrant> actafool_, how did you try changing resolution ???
[00:48] <Nabbins> glxgears works so I have HW acceleration
[00:48] <dietwater> How do ou get transparent backgrounds like http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1303/1177300828_63fcd2e17c_o.png ?
[00:48] <dietwater> Transparent window backgrounds, sorry.
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> trifecta and eternaljoy: you can probably do it manually... i know how, but there could be a danger that i don't know of because i haven't done that. i installed 8.10 and it's alli know about. but i ama former plain debian user that has updated to form debian stable to unstable a few times before
[00:49] <tyrant> Nabbins, do you have a nvidia card? use nvidia setting from settings menu
[00:49] <CaneToad> hischild, I'm not running everything as root, I have a root window
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> CaneToad: looks like the trigger file there is broken. did you have a filesystem error?
[00:49] <hischild> CaneToad, can you try and use sudo?
[00:49] <hischild> zsquareplusc, got a fix here for him.
[00:49] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: how I do it manusally?
[00:49] <Nabbins> thx that works
[00:49] <CaneToad> zsquareplusc, no filesystem errors
[00:49] <hischild> CaneToad, won't fix the issue at hand, that'll be the next step
[00:49] <ari_stress> dietwater: it's from terminal prefs
[00:49] <trifecta> dietwater, I think they use Compiz window rules.
[00:49] <dietwater> So, how would I change this?
[00:49] <trifecta> opacity rules
[00:49] <hischild> CaneToad, kill all package managers. ps aux | grep dpkg and ps aux | grep atp should give no result but grep. Confirm?
[00:49] <dietwater> I have compizconfig etc.
[00:50] <dietwater> Ah.  In the config manager?
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file... as root
[00:50] <superfly500> nope oss mixer no good aswell just my lock get a new laptop and its the sound lol last time on my old pc its was the ati card lol
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: one moment....
[00:50] <superfly500> luck*
[00:50] <CaneToad> hischild, confirmed, no dpkg or atp processes
[00:50] <trifecta> it might be terminal prefs too
[00:50] <ermoved> dietwater, that's probably an option in that terminal program
[00:50] <trifecta> but i make my whole window semi transparent in the compiz opacity rules
[00:50] <ari_stress> dietwater: no need from compiz
[00:50] <hischild> CaneToad, go to /var/cache/apt/archives and delete the openssh package if it's in there.
[00:51] <trifecta> yeah do it his wya
[00:51] <dietwater> I'm still confused, sorry.
[00:51] <trifecta> way
[00:51] <trifecta> lol
[00:51] <trifecta> where do we access terminal prefs?
[00:51] <ermoved> dietwater, there are several ways to accomplish transparency.
[00:51] <dietwater> Then which is the easiest and least hacky? =)
[00:51] <CaneToad> hischild, the file was there...I moved it to /tmp
[00:51] <ermoved> trifecta, it depends on the terminal program..
[00:52] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: make a backup of the file before yo do anything...   cp -v /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-hardy
[00:52] <ari_stress> trifecta: Applications > Accessories > Terminal > Edit > Profile prefs
[00:52] <trifecta> you could try going to Edit> Profiles>
[00:52] <ermoved> err
[00:52] <patrick-1> does anyone know a piece of software that can convert xvid avi's to a format that i can burn to a dvd?
[00:52] <trifecta> yeah
[00:52] <trifecta> what ari said
[00:52] <ermoved> dietwater, depends on the program.  if you're using a default ubuntu install, follow ari_stress directions.
[00:52] <bluntz> pat use avidemux
[00:52] <Trenter> Question:  In ubuntu, say I have a folder that contains a program, what is the best folder in root to put that folder in, aka the program files equivalent of ubuntu
[00:52] <patrick-1> mhh
[00:53] <patrick-1> okay
[00:53] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy:  cd /etc/apt   ...then sudo -i   and enter your password
[00:53] <markolonius> hey is it possible to apply permissions to a specific directory and all its subdirectories by command line?
[00:53] <patrick-1> bluntz: what tool do i use to burn?
[00:53] <dietwater> I thought there was a way to make the default background of windows transparent
[00:53] <gogzmer> markolonius: chmod
[00:53] <eternaljoy> how do I manusally do it onetinsoldier ?
[00:53] <ermoved> Trenter, binary files are typically in [some root strucutre]/bin, such as /usr/bin.
[00:53] <bluntz> I use k3b
[00:53] <ari_stress> markolonius: sure thing, sudo chmod -R /dir/something
[00:53] <gogzmer> markolonius: read the man, its in there
[00:53] <tyrant> markolonius, yes
[00:53] <camerongroom> how do I find my gimp scripts in ubuntu?
[00:53] <kitche> markolonius: chmod -R but becareful since you can screw your system up if you use chmod on the wrong directory
[00:53] <sfer2> /home/username/.gimpx.x
[00:54] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: forget it.. ill stick with 8.04 :P
[00:54] <ermoved> Trenter, but you dont install "the program" there.  several things have to go in several other places, i'm sure.
[00:54] <ari_stress> markolonius: right like kitche said
[00:54] <CaneToad> hischild, I re-ran the command with sudo.... same deal.... http://pastebin.com/m1321506   maybe I should try a different mirror?
[00:54] <sfer2> camerongroom^
[00:54] <markolonius> kitche: -R does that dir and all its subdirs? ah
[00:54] <markolonius> thanks
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: then... sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid
[00:54] <sfer2> camerongroom: /home/username/.gimpx.x
[00:54] <camerongroom> sfer2: do I do that in a terminal?
[00:54] <hischild> CaneToad, the file in question, /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/Unincorp, most likely has some content. Back it up somewhere, delete it, then do sudo touch /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/Unincorp
[00:54] <sfer2> camerongroom: no, you can just browse to it
[00:54] <sfer2> make sure you can view hidden files
[00:55] <camerongroom> thanks
[00:55] <dietwater> markolonius: -r stands for recursive =)
[00:55] <Trenter> When I try to drag a folder from a .tar.bz2 file into my /usr/games folder it says permission denied, is this normal?  I am using an admin ubuntu account.
[00:56] <tyrant> g
[00:56] <CaneToad> hischild, Unincorp is binary.... it is a dbm database, you sure you want to zero it?
[00:56] <sfer2> Now I have a problem with gnome: when i log in, it shows the normal stuff for a couple of seconds and then a command line and then returns me to the login screen, but with kde it's fine. what is going on?
[00:56] <hischild> CaneToad, Back it up first.
[00:56] <tyrant> Trenter, it is normal because ubuntu doesnt let you log in as root which is the administrator , but u can do so by starting  nautilus with sudo
[00:56] <ari_stress> sfer2: did it work before?
[00:57] <mortici> anyone willing to tell me how to change a device label, one of my secondary hdd's is labeled as "New Volume" but i want to rename it to something else
[00:57] <sfer2> ari_stress: yes, it worked fine until i logged in just this morning
[00:57] <sfer2> well, tried to.
[00:57] <tyrant> Trenter, i wouldnt drag and drop a folder ti /usr/games
[00:57] <jeeves_Moss> anyone on this FTPD server issue timing out on the LIST command?
[00:57] <ari_stress> sfer2: might be a corrupt gnome settings, you can try login to kde, and renaming/backingup the ~/.gnome directory and logon to gnome again
[00:57] <sfer2> Trenter: extract it from command line instead
[00:57] <eternaljoy> anyone knbow how to Upgrade 8.04 LTS to 8.10?
[00:58] <sfer2> ari_stress: ive tried that with all .gnome and .gconf folders, hasn't worked
[00:58] <edju> want to install gnome, but ubuntu-desktop brings in too much.  is a "thin" gnome available?
[00:58] <waya-work-s> yeah.
[00:58] <sfer2> eternaljoy: go to update manager and allow it to  display upgrades
[00:58] <eternaljoy> !upgrade
[00:58] <waya-work-s> try installing gnome edju
[00:58] <ari_stress> sfer2: ow.. how about create a new user and try logon with that user
[00:58] <ari_stress> sfer2: just to see what's the problem
[00:58] <sfer2> ari_stress: good idea, i will do that and report back.
[00:58] <eternaljoy> sfer2: I see UPGRADE TO 8.10.. but when I click it, it says downloading update manager, and then nothing happens
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: then... sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid
[00:59] <sfer2> eternaljoy: wait, it has to download
[00:59] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: type that command?
[00:59] <eternaljoy> sfer2: no, nothing is hjappening, even 10 mins later
[00:59] <tyrant> Trenter, i bet you re doing something wrong as when u install things under linux , the exe goes to usr/local/bin and pics and icons gor to /usr/share/programm and libraries to /usr/LIB so i d be careful
[00:59] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: I type... sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid  ?
[00:59] <provo> i'm having a weird problem,  when i try to delete one of my folders in my home directory i am unable to do so because i keep getting permission denied, why am i not allowed to do this in my own home directory?
[00:59] <Petein> hi.how can i install the IDE for Mono Develop?
[00:59] <Seiphas> I have a computer running 8.10, and one of the ext3 drives is reporting errors
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: it's a sed command....
[00:59] <waya-work-s> eternaljoy: no
[00:59] <zsquareplusc> edju: you can install xubuntu. that has a different window manager but you can still run gnome (or KDE) apps
[00:59] <eternaljoy> !sed
[01:00] <Seiphas> I ran  sudo fsck.ext3 -r -v /dev/sdb1, but it's been two days without any errors and nothing appears to be happening
[01:00] <Seiphas> what do I do
[01:00] <waya-work-s> you have to aptitude update && aptitude upgrade before you do that.
[01:00] <craig1709> Wireless trouble: I put wlan0 in 'Monitor' mode and then back into 'Managed' (a bcm4311 card - b43 driver) and now it refused to receive a network address. Authenticate fine though - anyone have any idea?
[01:00] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: what then?
[01:00] <NkZ> Greetings
[01:00] <hischild> CaneToad, you still there?
[01:00] <waya-work-s> and i recommend you run update-manager -d
[01:00] <waya-work-s> it should do it for you
[01:00] <tonon> hey, can anyone teach me how to make an ntfs partition ?
[01:00] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: whats my 1st command?
[01:00] <NkZ> How can I delete all those old kernels stacking up on my system?
[01:00] <tyrant> just use gparted tonon
[01:00] <ari_stress> hi guys, i download torrent a lot, it surely makes my hdd heavily fragmented, right?
[01:00] <Seiphas> ari_stress: what partition type
[01:01] <waya-work-s> eternaljoy: nar let update-manager -d do it for you
[01:01] <ari_stress> Seiphas: ext3
[01:01] <waya-work-s> its all automated
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: this is up to you. yuo have to want it bad... because things don't 'always' go smoothly with an upgrade.. but it's likely you'll be ok.. but you never know
[01:01] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: bash: upgrade: command not found
[01:01] <Seiphas> ext3 doesn't really fragment
[01:01] <tonon> tyrant i have gparted how does it work?
[01:01] <gogzmer> Are there any options to re-size an ext3 partition safely other than GParted?
[01:01] <waya-work-s> update-manager -d
[01:01] <NkZ> Thats why EXT3 rules over that sucky NTFS
[01:01] <waya-work-s> !upgrade
[01:01] <tyrant> on which hard drive
[01:01] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: those steps dont work on that website
[01:01] <ari_stress> Seiphas: i've read that article, but with torrent, the protective mechanism can't do much, right? it must be fragmented somehow
[01:01] <trifecta> does anybody use conky here?
[01:02] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: bash: upgrade: command not found
[01:02] <waya-work-s> eternaljoy: they should
[01:02] <CaneToad> hischild, I'm still here...googling...looks like others have had this problem
[01:02] <trifecta> is there a pastebin i could use?
[01:02] <NkZ> How can I delete all those old kernels stacking up on my system?
[01:02] <waya-work-s> or file a bug its not upgrade its update-manager -d
[01:02] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: "SHOULD" doesnt always mean it does lol
[01:02] <gogzmer> !pastebin
[01:02] <asterix> NkZ: I like to make popcorn once I have a lot of kernals
[01:02] <eternaljoy> waya-work-s: I type  update-manager -d  ?
[01:02] <Seiphas> ari_stress: ext3 defrags as it writes, so you shouldn't really have any issues
[01:02] <Seiphas> ari_stress: there's a way to force it though, no idea
[01:02] <Cygnus__> Can anyone help me with a question about selecting intallation partition?
[01:02] <hischild> CaneToad, yes they have. Note however the absence of the N in their errors.
[01:02] <eternaljoy> Cygnus__: no sorry
[01:02] <trifecta> thanks gogzmer and ubottu
[01:03] <gogzmer> np
[01:03] <edju> waya-work-s, gnome won't install - has an umet dependency - gnome-desktop-environment - which won't install - unmet dependency, gnome-keyring-manager - which doesn't exist.
[01:03] <trifecta> !pastebin
[01:03] <hapless> hey guys, I have an ntfs problem (ntfs-3g prob). my drive is seen (both by win & lin & mac) but cannot be read. gparted is stuck and I get weird Buffer I/O messages in the console. HELP PLS :(
[01:03] <trifecta> lol ubottu
[01:03] <ari_stress> Seiphas: is there any command to see the status of the fragmentation?
[01:03] <eternaljoy> i cannot upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10// anyone experienced here to help me?
[01:03] <NkZ> I don't think I understood that joke
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: no.. that won't work. did you do the sed command? it's substitutes ever instance of the word 'hardy' for 'intrepid' thats in that file and output it's to stdout... thenn the '>' symbol redirects it to another file
[01:03] <edju> ah, well - i'll try the xubuntu thing.
[01:03] <waya-work-s> edju: file a bug
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> every*
[01:03] <waya-work-s> that shouldn't happen
[01:03] <waya-work-s> it should now depend on seahorse
[01:03] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: youre confusing me... what command I type first?
[01:03] <tyrant> hapless, replace your hard drive
[01:03] <Flaw> Anyone have an idea where the userlist icons go in X-Chat Aqua?
[01:03] <Flaw> :|
[01:03] <waya-work-s> and a legacy /dummy package should exist
[01:03] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: talk plain language pls :)
[01:03] <asterix> NkZ: the small pieces of corn are also called kernals and popcorn is a heated form of those kernals.
[01:04] <hischild> CaneToad, also, i didn't ask you to zero the file. I asked you to remove it and recreate it as an empty file.
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: cd /etc/apt....     sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid
[01:04] <waya-work-s> onetinsoldier: don't get him to do that
[01:04] <hischild> onetinsoldier, you may want to do that with another g ... s/hardy/intrepid/g
[01:04] <NkZ> I see.
[01:04] <waya-work-s> read the manual
[01:04] <waya-work-s> !upgrade
[01:04] <Seiphas> how long should e2fsck take to run on a 500 gig drive?
[01:04] <onetinsoldier> waya-work-s: i hear it.. i warned himhe has to want this... bad
[01:04] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: h: sources.list-intrepid: Permission denied
[01:04] <gogzmer> sudo
[01:05] <hapless> tyrant: I need the data on it :(
[01:05] <eternaljoy> gogzmer: sudo gives same message
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok, before you left last time.. i said...   sudo -i... then enther your password
[01:05] <hapless> otherwise I wouldn't bother
[01:05] <Cygnus__> I would like to install Ubuntu to a tertiary drive (that is currently fresh out of the bag) and only use about 40 of the 250 unformatted GB on the drive, but I don't see an option to do so.
[01:05] <trifecta> Anyways, heres my conky config. I can't get the window height right and minimium window size doesn't work right. Any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/91902/
[01:05] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: sudo sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid  gives this message "bash: sources.list-intrepid: Permission denied"
[01:05] <david_28> hey guys! I have a MAJOR problem in ubuntu I cant click on anything thats on my desktop of in my web browser
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok, before you left last time.. i said...   sudo -i... then enter your password
[01:05] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: how are you installing?
[01:05] <emilien> need help with flash makes browser crash , get segementaion fault from terminal
[01:05] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Off of a LiveCD.
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: sed: can't read sources.list: No such file or directory
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok done
[01:06] <david_28> hej ! jag har problem med att mina fönster fryser och jag kan inte trycka på något i ubuntu 8.10 ! vad kan vara problemet?
[01:06] <asterix> emilien: what browser are you using?
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok..  cd /etc/apt
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: now it workd..   sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: I did that
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> ok
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: and  sed 's/hardy/intrepid/' sources.list > sources.list-intrepid worked
[01:06] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: now?
[01:06] <emilien> asterix: firefox
[01:06] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: I've found the live CD's to be great, but if you have more specific partitioning needs, and if you know what you are doing, the alternate CD works really well for that
[01:06] <waya-work-s> aptitude safe-upgrade
[01:07] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: I'm at the point where it gives me the choice between automatically resizing my second drive, formatting the entierty of one of my three drives, or guided-use the largest contiguous free space, or Manual.
[01:07] <craig1709> Wireless is stuck at "requesting a network address..." - argh! any ideas?
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: now...  less sources.list-intrepid   ..look the file over.. does it look ok?
[01:07] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: go with manual
[01:07] <Stanlin> Hi, May i play Crysis on Ubuntu?
[01:07] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: do I now type "aptitude safe-upgrade"?
[01:07] <asterix> emilien: have you tried another browser to see if flash is crashing there too?
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: no
[01:07] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: alright.
[01:07] <CaneToad> hischild, problem worked around, so thanks, but the question is...how did a dbm database get into /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/Unincorp - other users have had the same problem...
[01:07] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: that's what I figured, but I'm a bit lost from there.
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: take this slowly......
[01:07] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: That will give you very precise control over partition size, ordering, etc.
[01:07] <mn> If I boot from live cd and run "cp -r /dev/sda1/* /dev/sda2" and enter the correct lines in the GRUB config file, what else do I have to do to get this to work.  It is giving me errors about logging in, saying it is skipping $HOME/.drmc and that GDM couldn't write to $HOME.  It's seems that I may need to change the permissions, but how do I do this?
[01:07] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: how I escape from that?
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: don't be too quick
[01:08] <waya-work-s> Stanlin: yes
[01:08] <Cygnus__> right.
[01:08] <trifecta> Anyways, heres my conky config. I can't get the window height right and minimium window size doesn't work right. Any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/91902/ HELLO?
[01:08] <waya-work-s> it runs under wine
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ctrl+c
[01:08] <waya-work-s> !wine
[01:08] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Do I then make a new partition table?
[01:08] <dannetwork> does any one know how i can set up a private chat room for the ppl on my home net work
[01:08] <hischild> CaneToad, dunno. How'd u fix it?
[01:08] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ctrl+c doesnt work,, its stuck on "END"
[01:08] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: I just don't want to accidentally format one of my drives.  That would be... annoying.
[01:08] <CaneToad> hischild, I moved it aside and zeroed it like you said
[01:08] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: Make sure you have figured out which drive is the one you are trying to edit
[01:08] <emilien> asterix:  tried opera which didn't work either
[01:08] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok out of it
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: fist of all.. we have not made the /etc/apt/sources.list point to Intrepid.. yet
[01:08] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: next step?
[01:08] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: :)
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> first*
[01:09] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: now?
[01:09] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: fortunately, there's an undo button.  How handy
[01:09] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: Yeah, that button is there untill you press the commit button, i beleive
[01:09] <asterix> emilien: I actually had a similar problem with flash crashing opera and firefox both...  making sure I had the latest version of flash seemed to help but the problem seems to persist for me.
[01:09] <trifecta> so is steam and source compatibility better with wine nowadays?
[01:09] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: i would just like you to compare the  sources.list file and the sources.list-intrepid file... does the intrepid one look all good?
[01:09] <trifecta> or winex
[01:09] <n8tuser> dannetwork -> let them join your #ownchannel
[01:10] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Do I want to /dev/sdc If I'm looking to put a partition on the third drive that's currently RAW, I want to make a new partition table there, correct?
[01:10] <asterix> emilien: I just got a new computer and thankfully there's no problem on my fresh install.  You might try a full removal of firefox and flash and then reinstalling them.
[01:10] <bizthepirate> How does one open a .pax archive, like the ones found on Mac OS? I have pax installed, but the man pages really don't help much...
[01:10] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: i would know
[01:10] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: can u see it?
[01:10] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: i wouldnt know
[01:10] <hischild> CaneToad, good to hear.
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: you can pastebin them
[01:11] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: (the other drives are aptly named /sda and /sdb, and are the appropriate sizes for my first and second drive.)
[01:11] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: what file?
[01:11] <eternaljoy> !pastebin
[01:11] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: if the drive you are looking to put it on is currently blank, with no partitions, then I believe so. If the sizes all seem right, then sdc is probably right
[01:11] <emilien> asterix:i have latest flash and firefox , flash is recognized , just dosn't work =\ , think firefox reinstall is called for
[01:11] <david_28> hey guys! I have a MAJOR problem in ubuntu I cant click on anything thats on my desktop of in my web browser
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: both the /etc/apt/sources.list and the /etc/apt/sources.list-intrepid files.. pastebin them so i can see them
[01:11] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: It names them in the order that it finds them, sda, b, c, usualy as they are listed in the bios
[01:11] <trifecta> i don't understand you david_28
[01:12] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Ah, here we go.
[01:12] <david_28> trifecta: ok I will explain
[01:12] <CaneToad> hischild would you happen to know anything about configuring audio... the recent 8.10 updates seem to have broken my audio
[01:12] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: yeah, it just changed a the blank /sdc to 250 GB of free space.
[01:12] <hapless> david_28: try ctrl+alt+f2 (sends u to console) then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to desktop
[01:12] <Cygnus__> Then just make a new partition
[01:12] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91904/
[01:12] <onetinsoldier> ok
[01:12] <david_28> trifecta: my "windows" freezes and then I cant click on anything I cant even terminate my windows
[01:12] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: yup
[01:12] <trifecta> david_28, what are your system specs/
[01:13] <david_28> hapless: well this accures even after reboots
[01:13] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91905/
[01:13] <dannetwork> can some one help me in an other chat i need to set up a chat room that you have to be on my net wrok to get on
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> k
[01:13] <Halitech> david_28, are you running compiz?
[01:13] <Guest81012> hows ubuntu kde 4 doing???  I heard there are a lot of issues.    Is it worth trying or should I stay with 3.5
[01:13] <david_28> trifecta: I got a Toshiba Tecra 1
[01:13] <gogzmer> CaneToad: I had the same problem when I updated the kernel as apt suggested, but when it broke my sound, I just selected the past kernel from grub instead
[01:13] <trifecta> give me specs
[01:13] <david_28> Halitech: yes but I have it turned off
[01:13] <trifecta> not the model
[01:13] <n8tuser> david_28 -> you can get to ctrl+alt+f1  login and type top to see which process is hogging up the cpu
[01:13] <CaneToad> gogzmer, I'll try that...thanks for the clue
[01:13] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/91904/    and   http://paste.ubuntu.com/91905/
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: looks good at first glance.. let me take a close look
[01:13] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Because I went with manual, will I have to manually create a swap file, or does Ubuntu do that from within it's own partition?
[01:13] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok
[01:14] <trifecta> david_28, can you open a normal terminal?
[01:14] <gogzmer> dannetwork: Litterally just tell whomever to /join #[whateveryouwanttocalltheroom] and they all will be in the same room
[01:14] <david_28> trifecta: yes i can
[01:14] <trifecta> just type top
[01:14] <Guest81012> hows ubuntu kde 4 doing???  I heard there are a lot of issues.    Is it worth trying or should I stay with 3.5
[01:14] <trifecta> in the terminal
[01:14] <dannetwork> what if they are on a windows computer
[01:14] <Guest81012> hows ubuntu kde 4 doing???  I heard there are a lot of issues.    Is it worth trying or should I stay with 3.5
[01:14] <hischild> CaneToad, hmm not really. Tried the different sound optiosn?
[01:14] <david_28> trifecta: yeah
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok..have you made nay bakup of the 'sources.list' file?
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> any*
[01:15] <hischild> CaneToad, sorry if im kinda slow, trying to do death toll in left 4 dead
[01:15] <trifecta> david_28, whats your cpu usage
[01:15] <n8tuser> dannetwork -> let them join your #ownchannel  -- it does not matter windows or mac or linux, get them to freenode and create the channel
[01:15] <trifecta> and what process is using most of it
[01:15] <gogzmer> Cygnus__:  you will have to do it. THe way I would recomend partitioning a drive is to have a 2GB swap partition at the end of the drive, a 50 GB root (/) partition at the front of the drive, and fill the rest with a data partition where all but SWAP are formatted to ext3
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy:   cp -v sources.list sources.list-hardy
[01:15] <david_28> trifecta: 42 % and im updating my system now
[01:15] <hapless> how can I repair an ntfs drive in ubuntu?
[01:15] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: so now I type cp -v sources.list sources.list-hardy  ?
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: yes
[01:16] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: under root?
[01:16] <dannetwork> how do i create my own channel
[01:16] <trifecta> david_28, is it consistently around 42%
[01:16] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Gotcha.  Should I worry about a sperate /root and /home?
[01:16] <trifecta> ?
[01:16] <CaneToad> hischild, yeah I can't get any sound out of it with any of the sound devices, even with a USB phone
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: yes
[01:16] <gogzmer> dannetwork: dude, 5 people have told you...a channel only exists because some user is in it
[01:16] <n8tuser> Cygnus__ -> 50 gig for /  root is way too much, even a 10gig is more than enuff, save the other space for another partition
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: to do a major upgrade.. you will be doing everything as root
[01:16] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok done
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok.. good
[01:16] <david_28> trifecta: nope
[01:17] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: next step? :)
[01:17] <Halitech> dannetwork, read up http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[01:17] <trifecta> hmm
[01:17] <hischild> CaneToad, default questions first then. It's all set to alsa?
[01:17] <trifecta> so its not resources
[01:17] <hischild> CaneToad, nothing is muted? Do you hear any noise? static perhaps?
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: now..   cp -v sources.list-intrepid sources.list
[01:17] <arthur> i have a question i am using ubuntu right now was going to install mandriva, i can use the same home partition for both os's?
[01:17] <trifecta> do you know how to open the system monitor?
[01:17] <dannetwork> ok thanks i will read up
[01:17] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: done
[01:17] <david_28> trifecta: yes I know
[01:17] <trifecta> gnome-system-monitor in terminal
[01:17] <trifecta> oh ok
[01:17] <Cygnus__> n8tuser: Yeah, 30 for root does seem like a lot.  If I have a /home file, only system files are stored on Root by default, right?
[01:17] <david_28> trifecta: Im quite experinced
[01:17] <trifecta> oh
[01:17] <trifecta> ok
[01:17] <trifecta> sorry :D
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: ok..  cross your fingers....   apt-get update
[01:18] <david_28> trifecta: np :D
[01:18] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok :P
[01:18] <gogzmer> Cygnus__:  I usually don't because I like to just throw all my data into a /data folder, so I make that a partition. If you are more like the kind of person who uses "my documents" for everything, you can create a home partition, otherwise you can turn /home into a symlink that points to the data partition
[01:18] <trifecta> not resources then
[01:18]  * Cygnus__ crosses fingers for eternaljoy too.
[01:18] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: if you dont see me again today, that means it broke :P
[01:18] <david_28> trifecta: I just havent had this problem before
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: when that's done...   apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:18] <eternaljoy> Cygnus__: cheers big ears :-)
[01:18] <trifecta> your sure compiz is not running at all?
[01:18] <trifecta> no emerald?
[01:18] <n8tuser> Cygnus__ -> yes, only system stuff, so if you make that to another partition and put VM or virtuals..  that would give  you plenty  of ummp
[01:18] <Seiphas> I have a hard drive that's getting read errors on every single block. How screwed am I?
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: i understand
[01:18] <trifecta> ever had problems with compiz-fusion in the past/
[01:18] <trifecta> ?
[01:18] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ok here goes.. (holds breath )
[01:18] <hololight> while using nautilus I can not 'browse' windows pc's / shares.... but if i manually type in the address I can access a particular pc's shares.... thoughts?
[01:18] <david_28> trifecta: I turned my compiz off because i thought it caused the problem
[01:19] <trifecta> oh
[01:19] <CaneToad> hischild, if I go into sound preferences, whether I select autodetect, or any of the alsa or oss outputs, clicking test gives no sound at all for any of the options
[01:19] <Cygnus__> n8tuser, gogzmer: So, if I were to make a 10 GB root, 30 GB /home or /data, and a 2 GB swap, I would be good?
[01:19] <trifecta> do you have ccsm installed?
[01:19] <gogzmer> n8tuser: ive used up almost 50GB of space for root...mostly just from installing random packages, and gnome takes up a few gigs by itself
[01:19] <eternaljoy> onetinsoldier: ill be back if it works,, if not, ill be back tomorrow :P
[01:19] <markolonius> is there a way to apply permissions recrusivly to just files? and not dirs?
[01:19] <n8tuser> Cygnus__ -> plenty enuff
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> eternaljoy: there may be problems getting all the packages to install.. but i'll be here to help you work through them
[01:19] <david_28> trifecta: hmm I dont think so but im not sure
[01:19] <n8tuser> gogzmer -> you have installed everything on the dvd?
[01:19] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: sure, it just depends on the number of apps you will be installing, as well as how much data you will be putting in there
[01:20] <david_28> trifecta: Ubuntu has worked fine for several weeks
[01:20] <Cygnus__> gogzmer, n8tuser: I have two other drives that are NTFS, so I'll actually be most likely dumping all of my files into there anyway.
[01:20] <david_28> trifecta: even months
[01:20] <trifecta> so what did you change?
[01:20] <gogzmer> n8tuser: I often grab random interesting apps out of synaptic
[01:20] <n8tuser> Cygnus__ -> okay, cool
[01:20] <david_28> trifecta: nothing that i can think of
[01:20] <Cygnus__> gogzmer, n8user:  I can store non-system files in root if I wish?
[01:20] <Raerlynn> hey guys, I'm having some problems installing it from a Live USB drive
[01:20] <trifecta> that's odd
[01:20] <trifecta> maybe its your mouse? hahah
[01:20] <elliottm> I'm running 64-bit kubuntu, and I have 4gb of ram installed, but linux is only seeing 3.2gb of it. I ran memtest86 on moth modules individusally, and there were no errors
[01:21] <goffio> hello
[01:21] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: yes, but there usually isn't a good reason
[01:21] <david_28> trifecta: but u know now it works again but it will only work for awhile
[01:21] <n8tuser> Cygnus__ -> you can, but it doesn not make sense
[01:21] <elliottm> why isn't ubuntu recognizing all of my ram?
[01:21] <Cygnus__> n8tuser, gogzmer: Alright.
[01:21] <trifecta> lol 4gb
[01:21] <actafool_> who is the best movie player for ubuntu ..
[01:21] <actafool_> ?
[01:21] <goffio> is it mandatory to apt-get upgrade before apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:21] <trifecta> wth would you need all of that for?
[01:21] <david_28> trifecta: I started to notice this when I was using firefox and couldnt scroll down or do anything
[01:22] <actafool_> cause i cant stat my subttitles with totem player
[01:22] <gogzmer> elliottm: perhaps it doesn't like sheep?
[01:22] <trifecta> maybe it's a mouse driver issue
[01:22] <Cygnus__> trifecta: Computing mersenne primes.
[01:22] <gogzmer> ;)
[01:22] <onetinsoldier> goffio: no
[01:22] <actafool_> start*
[01:22] <trifecta> can you use all of the keyboard commands?
[01:22] <elliottm> trifecta: it's combination of future-proofing and really good deals
[01:22] <Cygnus__> That's what I use RAM for.
[01:22] <david_28> trifecta: this is a laptop and I have tried an external mouse
[01:22] <trifecta> oh ok
[01:22] <hischild> CaneToad, hmm odd ... set it to autodetect and run alsamixer in terminal
[01:22] <trifecta> heh
[01:22] <trifecta> i have 1 gig
[01:22] <goffio> whohoo! then i don't have to dl those 200M to upgrade the distro, that's good ;)
[01:22] <elliottm> gogzmer: nice try, but it was certified sheep compatible
[01:22] <trifecta> and i cant even use half of it in ubuntu
[01:22] <trifecta> with tons of crap running
[01:23] <trifecta> no swap usage
[01:23] <Cygnus__> Trifecta: Actually, no.  It's for any copies of Vista within 100 yards.  They suck in ambient RAM, and slow down your system if they can't leech your memory off.
[01:23] <Raerlynn> it doesn't seem to want to format the drive
[01:23] <actafool_> tell me one good movie player
[01:23] <actafool_> ?
[01:23] <trifecta> im on xp
[01:23] <trifecta> dual boot
[01:23] <elliottm> trifecta: ihad 1gb and normally did fine, but some of the programs i weire, especailly for project euler, push it
[01:23] <trifecta> to 8.04
[01:23] <goffio> actafool: try vlc
[01:23] <trifecta> ahh
[01:23] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: and if they find no other memory to leach, they sap the user's inteligence, proliferating the use of vista
[01:23] <mwilson_> hey guys.  Any idea why, after playihng a video, any video after that has funky colors?
[01:23] <Kelen> How to copy more folders at once in CL?
[01:23] <actafool_> okay ty
[01:23] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: If I said that I had 3GB of RAM, would it change the perferred size of my swap file?
[01:23] <elliottm> but yes, does anyone knowwhy ubuntu isn't seeing 1/5 of my memory?
[01:24] <trifecta> how can i set conky to be always on the bottom
[01:24] <goffio> actafool_: or you have the default player, totem
[01:24] <david_28> trifecta: im running compiz again now
[01:24] <trifecta> oh
[01:24] <trifecta> idk maybe somebody else can you help you out better
[01:24] <trifecta> this is an odd one
[01:24] <caeroe> ok, i tried stable and beta flash drivers, stable and beta nvidia drivers, multiple browsers, and i still cannot get flash to work reasonable in fullscreen in 8.10 x64.   is there anything i can do?
[01:24] <caeroe> it's very choppy
[01:24] <Stanlin> Hi, May i play Crysis on Ubuntu?
[01:25] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: If you don't want it to be able to swap, and possibly slow down things, but still keep going if it runs out of ram, don't make a swap partition. With no swap space, the OS will just give low memory errors if you reach the limit
[01:25] <Kelen> is there any idea for cp command? copy more folders at once.
[01:25] <Joel_> hi, i'm still having trouble with my wireless on my dell inspiron e1505 even after following the tutorial
[01:25] <trifecta> yes stanlin
[01:25] <mwilson_> hey guys.  Any idea why, after playihng a video, any video after that has funky colors?
[01:25] <trifecta> my swap is too big
[01:25] <caeroe> on the plus side i can see if my gaming performance is better with 180.18 drivers...
[01:25] <trifecta> im going to make it samller
[01:25] <gogzmer> mwilson_: too much acid?...oh wait, that would be videos sounding funky colors ;)
[01:25] <elliottm> i know my motherboard upports >3.2gb, because memtest86 said it was able to test like 3.7 at once
[01:25] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: I understand the usage of a swap file, I'm just wondering.  Windows throws a huge hissy if you don't have any.  I'll just throw 2GB to be safe.   Should the root partion be set to primary?
[01:26] <Raerlynn> any reason why when formatting the drive it seems to stall out? It's a new hard drive
[01:26] <mwilson_> gogzmer that's cute.
[01:26] <trifecta> yeah i hate windows paging
[01:26] <Joel_> hi, i'm still having trouble with my wireless on my dell inspiron e1505 even after following the tutorial
[01:26] <Cygnus__> Gogzmer: and the rest set to logical?
[01:26] <boxefaq|off> does anyone know how much space the default 8.10 install takes?
[01:26] <Cygnus__> Joel_: Make sure that the switch is set to "More Magic?"
[01:26] <Cygnus__> ^_^
[01:26] <mwilson_> gogzmer: seriously...  noticed itfirst after using mplayer.
[01:26] <hischild> CaneToad, anything set to M there?
[01:26] <caeroe> ok, a different angled question, anyone on x64 that can play fullscreen flash (such as Hulu) at the same smoothness in XP
[01:26] <mwilson_> now, any file, any player...  BUNK
[01:26] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: linux doesn't care, and will use it if it has it and be quiet if it doesn't...and yes...but the others don't need to be logical, unless you need more than 4 partitions on the drive
[01:26] <trifecta> who uses conky here/
[01:26] <Seiphas> I have a hard drive that's getting read errors on every single block with e2fsck. How screwed am I?
[01:27] <elliottm> Joel_: what card/chipset do you have?
[01:27] <caeroe> hate to have to boot windows just to watch a video
[01:27] <Stanlin> trifecta: do you have any guide that makes that possible?
[01:27] <kingxkobra> will someone help me get a 45 or 50
[01:27] <trifecta> stanlin
[01:27] <goffio> mwilson_, well at least that one clue, you will have to check to video libs/drivers for errors
[01:27] <trifecta> go on
[01:27] <gogzmer> mwilson_: any other vid players do it? Is it only limited to certain vid encodings?
[01:27] <Joel_> the broadcom 1390
[01:27] <trifecta> try wine or winex in google
[01:27] <elliottm> caeroe: in KDE, kaffeine is a great player, it hasn't failed me yet
[01:27] <trifecta> should be a tutorial
[01:27] <david_28> trifecta: I updated my system and it seems to work again
[01:28] <trifecta> hmm
[01:28] <kingxkobra> 50 or 45 for 4 1 mnths
[01:28] <goffio> mwilson_, try putting the progs on verbose logging, check logs
[01:28] <trifecta> idk david_28  that's really weird
[01:28] <Joel_> and Cygnus__ : :-P
[01:28] <caeroe> if i could rip the streams to FLV it'd play fine, i can't though
[01:28] <Halitech> Seiphas, very, got any vaseline?
[01:28] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: so, should my swap file and whatnot be logical or physical?  And what's the difference anyway?
[01:28] <caeroe> kinda borked, i hate xp but i like watching Hulu at fullscreen and high rez
[01:28] <trifecta> caeroe, im on X64 and i see all flash vids fine
[01:28] <kingxkobra> 45 or 50 plz
[01:28] <trifecta> the only issue i have is with flahs overlays
[01:29] <trifecta> flash*
[01:29] <w3wsrmn> kingxkobra: The hell are you on about?
[01:29] <trifecta> x64
[01:29] <keithclark> I have a Compaq R4000 laptop here and I'd like to use it with the SVideo out port but I'm not sure how to get it working with Ubuntu 8.10
[01:29] <Raerlynn> any reason why when formatting the drive it seems to stall out? It's a new hard drive
[01:29] <elliottm> Joel_: broadcom :(
[01:29] <corollax> Would someone here with an updated version of Intrepid Ibex type a quick command into their terminal for me?
[01:29] <caeroe> hmm  what video card?  i'm using nvidia 8800gt 512mb, i tried 177 and 180 beta drivers
[01:29] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: I always try to keep partitions physical, but to be honest, I can't remember what the difference is...wikipedia perhaps?
[01:29] <ldiamond> I'm trying to set Ubuntu in french, but when I do, like half of the stuffs are in french, the rest stays in english... how do I fix that?
[01:29] <kingxkobra> a 45 or 50 on my account for 4 1 mnths
[01:29] <corollax> I'd like to see the output of "ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub"
[01:29] <elliottm> Joel_: how much google searching have you done?
[01:29] <Joel_> a lot
[01:29] <caeroe> i tried flash 10 alpha for x64, still really choppy fullscreen
[01:30] <trifecta> my vids tear a bit
[01:30] <Joel_> google is usually more first source of help
[01:30] <killerbyte> hello
[01:30] <trifecta> especially when playing "HD" youtube vids..
[01:30] <corollax> I'm trying to track down a bug:  Would one of you mind giving me the output of "ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub"?
[01:30] <kingxkobra> i need a 45 or 50
[01:30] <gogzmer> Does anyone know why GParted refuses to resize an ext3 partition from the Live CD, telling me I need to run e2fsck, even though it just ran it itself in the previous step?
[01:30] <CaneToad> hischild I've made some progress.. turns out the alsa volume was down, and the "Test" buttons don't turn it up...  I'm still not able to use audio with skype.... symptoms from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/273693
[01:31] <caeroe> i can download youtube, not hulu vids though... last i tried...
[01:31] <inktri> !hostname
[01:31] <hashbrowns> Can someone help me correctly setup GRUB for dualbooting XP x64 and Ubuntu 64bit?  I've tried several guides but I don't quite understand them.
[01:31] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: sorry, Primary, not Physical...
[01:31] <w3wsrmn> kingxkobra: You make absolutely no sense. If you need Ubuntu related help, ask.
[01:31] <Cygnus__> but I should keep them all primary?
[01:31] <boxefaq|off> does anyone know how much space the default 8.10 install takes?
[01:31] <trifecta> hash
[01:31] <trifecta> do you have two hdds?
[01:31] <joeb3_> caeroe, i've got the flash alpha and I can watch hulu and youtube, no problem.
[01:31] <gogzmer> boxefaq|off: which default?
[01:31] <trifecta> one with ub and one with win?
[01:31] <kingxkobra> oh im in the wrong room aint i
[01:32] <hashbrowns> triefecta: three hdds but ubuntu and windows are on the same physical drive
[01:32] <trifecta> oh
[01:32] <boxefaq|off> gogzmer, ubuntu 8.10 w/gnome
[01:32] <elliottm> I'm running 64-bit kubuntu, and I have 4gb of ram installed, but linux is only seeing 3.2gb of it. I ran memtest86 on moth modules individusally, and there were no errors. I know my motherboard support it, so what's the problem?
[01:32] <goffio> boxefaq|off: like 4G i think
[01:32] <kingxkobra> srry guys
[01:32] <gogzmer> Cygnus__:  If you can, I would say so
[01:32] <trifecta> you have to make two partitions
[01:32] <trifecta> obviously
[01:32] <caeroe> joeb3_: i can too, just fullscreen is choppy.    it seems better in 180.18 nvidia drivers though... good enough i think now
[01:32] <killerbyte> please tell me what is the best way to mount internal disk file systems so that my user account can write to it?
[01:32] <trifecta> uh i havent done it in along time. i use to seperate drives
[01:33] <hashbrowns> trifecta: I've done that. windows is on partition 1 and ubuntu is on like 5 or something.
[01:33] <killerbyte> I have 2 file systems I want to read and write to at the moment
[01:33] <trifecta> and set the ubuntu drive to master and the windows drive to GRUB boot options
[01:33] <elliottm> Joel_: I wish i could help you, i did a lot of stuff with wireless last year, but nothing with broadcom stuff
[01:33] <trifecta> you need to make it so that GRUB is on the default boot drive
[01:33] <goffio> killerbyte, what FSs?
[01:33] <Stanlin> how to mount an ISO image?
[01:34] <killerbyte> both fat32
[01:34] <killerbyte> goffio,
[01:34] <trifecta> and then add an option to boot to the windows partition in GRUB
[01:34] <hashbrowns> trifecta: how do I do that?
[01:34] <trifecta> eh, lemme look around
[01:34] <killerbyte> goffio, sda2 and sda5 i think
[01:35] <hischild> CaneToad, checking bug. Wasn't skype OSS?
[01:35] <arthur> what is a good backup tool from the repositories ?
[01:35] <hashbrowns> trifecta:  I was following this guide here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo but i dont understand Restore the boot sector e.g. dd if=/media/hda/mbr.bin of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:35] <goffio> killerbyte: i would do that with mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /pathto/mountpoint
[01:35] <gogzmer> arthur: cp
[01:35] <gogzmer> :)
[01:35] <arthur> lol
[01:35] <killerbyte> goffio, only root can do that i thought?
[01:35] <trifecta> man, i don't know, it was so long ago i forgot how i did it :(
[01:35] <boxefaq|off> gogzmer, 4 gigs ?
[01:35] <killerbyte> goffio, no?
[01:35] <goffio> killerbyte: yes, sorry prepend a "sudo" before all
[01:36] <goffio> it'll ask for your paswd
[01:36] <hashbrowns> trifecta: do you know anyone that is good with dualboot setups?
[01:36] <CaneToad> hischild, I have not much knowhow about the relationship of OSS and ALSA and how different software uses them....are they just two separate APIs that are supposed to be able to be used side by side, OSS predating ALSA?
[01:36] <gogzmer> boxefaq|off: huh? Size of the default gui install? sounds about right
[01:36] <arthur> i noticed there are a few in the universe, wasnted easy gui one....
[01:36] <straterra> Does wubi function like a normal ubuntu installation?
[01:36] <trifecta> i dont like having two OSs on one physical disk
[01:36] <gogzmer> CaneToad: I think that is true, yes (at least that is how my machine seems to be using them)
[01:37] <trifecta> i dont know anybody
[01:37] <goffio> CaneToad, OSS is an older interface to audio hardware, ALSA is newer but mantains a subsystem that emulates it for older software
[01:37] <trifecta> try different guides
[01:37] <killerbyte> goffio, root account only has write access though
[01:37] <caeroe> bah... still too choppy in hi-rez fullscreen on hulu, i still need to boot xp for it then
[01:37] <Stanlin> trifecta: darling, how to install unreal tournament 3 on linux?? i cant find a guide on google
[01:37] <hashbrowns> trifecta: Well I chose to set it up like this because of read/write performance OS on one HDD games on another and recorded footage on the thrid.
[01:37]  * deeri`pening brb mandiin wnet ....
[01:37] <gogzmer> killerbyte: chown to whichever user you want to give access to, or chmod to something that gives them access
[01:38] <goffio> killerbyte: add -o user
[01:38] <hischild> CaneToad, you run a 64bit system?
[01:38] <killerbyte> gogzmer, what does chmod do?
[01:39] <hashbrowns> trifecta: do you know what "Restore the boot sector e.g. dd if=/media/hda/mbr.bin of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1" means from that guide I linked you?
[01:39] <trifecta> oh restoring the boot sector is just to restore the old boot sector you backed up
[01:39] <hischild> CaneToad, google a bit about OSS and ALSA, long story to explain that
[01:39] <gogzmer> killerbyte: chmod alters the permissions of the file/directory....man chmod will give you more info
[01:39] <goffio> killerbyte: if you want to do all that from /etc/fstab the entire line would be like the following
[01:39] <bhsx> does anyone know how to boot a usb install of 8.10 in vbox?  or qemu even?
[01:39] <CaneToad> hischild, no 32
[01:39] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: What is this about extended partiions and their creation?
[01:39] <gogzmer> !chmod
[01:39] <bhsx> instead of rebooting into the usb install...
[01:39] <hashbrowns> trifecta: how would I do that?
[01:39] <Stanlin> bhsx: Virtual machines doesnt support USB booting
[01:39] <trifecta> i think dd is just the command
[01:40] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: In the installer?
[01:40] <bhsx> you can boot usb with qemu, if i just boot the iso off it, for example
[01:40] <goffio> /dev/sda2    /pathto/mountpoint  vfat   user  0   0
[01:40] <Halitech> bhsx, take a look at mobalivecd if you want to do it from windows
[01:40] <trifecta> those are the commands
[01:40] <bhsx> thanks, i'll google that
[01:40] <hashbrowns> trifecta: okay.
[01:41] <bluntz> it would be neat if man pages could be embedded in the irc channel
[01:41] <trifecta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[01:41] <gogzmer> bluntz: I am sure there is some bot somewhere that does that
[01:41] <trifecta> stanlin i dont know
[01:41] <bluntz> handy too
[01:41] <trifecta> ill look
[01:41] <gogzmer> bluntz: but I wouldn't want all of that in here...to much info, and often very long
[01:41] <gogzmer> bluntz: but a PM bot would be cool
[01:41] <bhsx> what about the file structure of the usb install?  shouldn't it be virtualizeable?
[01:42] <bluntz> yup
[01:42] <Stanlin> booting from USB on VM is impossible
[01:42] <bluntz> but wood it b a bot that dreamed it was a man?
[01:42] <hischild> CaneToad, pastebin the output if you run skype from a terminal please.
[01:42] <killerbyte> gogzmer, goffio is there a way to mount it with 1 command so that my user account can write to the file system?
[01:42] <Torgoton> How long should a netboot install take after selecting a mirror? I selected one 40 minutes ago... zzzzzz
[01:42] <trifecta> Stanlin, isnt there a linux port for UT3
[01:42] <trifecta> ?
[01:42] <goffio> gogzmer,bluntz: besides isn't it easier to type it in a terminal ?
[01:43] <Halitech> Torgoton, dpends on the mirror you selected and the connection speed
[01:43] <trifecta> I would check on the UT3 forums
[01:43] <Stanlin> trifecta: nope :( we are waiting 2 years already
[01:43] <arktvrvs> how to i allow directory listin in apache? ive done it before but ubuntu's layout of its configs it pretty botched imho
[01:43] <killerbyte> gogzmer, which is better to use? chmod or chown
[01:43] <RabidLockerGnome> hey guys, using 8.10, have a geforce fx 5200, installed driver, restarted, direct rendering is enabled, but compiz won't stat
[01:43] <gogzmer> killerbyte: after you have it mounted, run chmod 777 <dir it's mounted to> and that will do it
[01:43] <RabidLockerGnome> start*
[01:43] <bluntz> hehe was wonderin when youd say it
[01:43] <bluntz> hehe
[01:43] <gogzmer> killerbyte: Depends, chown is usually better, but it is more of a security issue than anything...
[01:43] <Torgoton> Halitech: I have a VERY slow machine too. Any way to tell what it's doing? The alt-f4 log doesn't have any activity for 40 minutes. top is not available.
[01:43] <goffio> killerbyte, well yes: this would be the command: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /pathto/mountpoint -o user"
[01:44] <killerbyte> goffio,  thank you
[01:44] <gogzmer> killerbyte: if it is just you using the machine, and you have taken all other security precautions, like firewalls, etc, to protect from attack, either is fine
[01:44] <killerbyte> gogzmer, thank you
[01:44] <Halitech> Torgoton, hard to say then, I recall when I installed on a P266 laptop with 96 meg of ram it took quite a while to install
[01:44] <gogzmer> killerbyte: most welcome
[01:44] <Torgoton> Halitech: Luxury! I have a 486 with 36MB RAM. :)
[01:44] <Gun_Smoke> was there a massive upgrades release within the last couple of days?
[01:44] <bluntz> takes my 166 ibm tpad all day
[01:44] <Halitech> Torgoton, ouch, I hope you are doing a text only install
[01:45] <trifecta> yikes, that suck Stanlin
[01:45] <trifecta> sucks*
[01:45] <Stanlin> trifecta: i know darling
[01:45] <gogzmer> Gun_Smoke: i'd say more like a week, but yeah...not massive, but a kernel update and some others...so a handful?
[01:45] <results> anyone know how to get wine to see serial port on 8.04
[01:45] <killerbyte> goffio, that command gives error
[01:45] <Torgoton> Halitech: So far it hasn't really started to install... it started the network, did DHCP, asked for a mirror.... then... nothing. Is there anything I can do to check on it?
[01:45] <killerbyte> goffio, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[01:45] <Gun_Smoke> gogzmer, 222MB worth today just didn't seem right.
[01:46] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: Alright.  20 GB root, 20GB home, 2GB swap.
[01:46] <killerbyte> goffio, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/1 -o killerbyte
[01:46] <Torgoton> Halitech: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key...."
[01:46] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: sounds good
[01:46] <Cygnus__> Primary
[01:46] <jkristheking> can someone help me with my brightness problem on my gateway laptop? please thnk you.
[01:46] <Cygnus__> all primary.
[01:46] <happyface> can someone help me install xubuntu using a usb external hard drive?
[01:46] <gogzmer> Gun_Smoke: how long since you last updated?
[01:46] <Torgoton> bluntz: This is a ThinkPad 750P!
[01:46] <almark1> Hello, where can I find help setting up midi support for ubuntu studio ibex
[01:46] <bluntz> hehe lucky u
[01:46] <almark1> non usb
[01:46] <gogzmer> Cygnus__:  should hold you in good stead
[01:46] <trifecta> Stanlin, this might help: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/p3022970.html
[01:46] <trifecta> read up on wine
[01:46] <trifecta> and winex
[01:46] <Torgoton> Halitech: bluntz: I have no CD drive. I installed DOS and moved over the netboot files on floppies. eesh.
[01:47] <Halitech> Torgoton, sit back and pop a few beers
[01:47] <goffio> killerbyte: no sorry if i wasn't clear about it. user is the name of the switch, put it literally without replacing it with your username
[01:47] <trifecta> those are the two ways you get windows games running in linux
[01:47] <Cygnus__> if it doesn't work, I nuke the disk and start over.  That's why I'm doing it on a fresh drive.  I can't loose anything if it messes itself up.
[01:47] <CaneToad> hischild, as per workaround in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/273693 I've created /etc/ld.so.conf.d/alsa32.conf and run sudo ldconfig and now skype runs and stays running.  Before that, certain operations would cause it to spontaneously exit with error Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
[01:47] <Torgoton> Halitech: Thanks. I'll just sleep on it.
[01:47] <bluntz> I used the boot floppies
[01:47] <r0ny> hi is it possible for me top downgrade using apt-get
[01:47] <killerbyte> goffio, oh right
[01:47] <goffio> killerbyte: it is just an option to mount for enabling user (non root) write access
[01:47] <Torgoton> bluntz: Ubuntu has boot floppies?
[01:47] <bluntz> slid in my wireless card
[01:47] <Halitech> Torgoton, you could have gotten the boot floppies and installed that way instead of installing DOS
[01:47] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: it's always a nice feeling to know you can do that with clean installs
[01:47] <Torgoton> Halitech: What boot floppies?
[01:48] <bluntz> boots deb
[01:48] <Torgoton> bluntz: No fair.
[01:48] <pioov> can someone help me? I've installed sun-jre6 from synaptic, but java plugin does not appear in about:config of firefox
[01:48] <happyface> can someone help me install xubuntu using a usb external hard drive?
[01:48] <bluntz> hehe
[01:48] <Halitech> Torgoton, I think you would use the Debian boot floppies with debootstrap
[01:48] <killerbyte> goffio, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /media/1 -o user
[01:48] <happyface> can someone help me install xubuntu using a usb external hard drive?
[01:48] <hischild> CaneToad, i see. Good to hear it works
[01:48] <killerbyte> goffio, still doesnt give me write access
[01:48] <goffio> killerbyte: yup, that should do it
[01:48] <bluntz> change the repos
[01:48] <Cygnus__> Can multiple Linus distros share the same swap file?
[01:49] <almark1> does anyone know how to setup midi in ubuntu ibex?
[01:49] <bluntz> to whatever you want
[01:49] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: yes
[01:49] <onetinsoldier> Cygnus__: yes
[01:49] <pioov> Cygnus__:  yes
[01:49] <Cygnus__> like, if I were to dual-boot Ubuntu and Mint. ^_^
[01:49] <gogzmer> first!
[01:49] <killerbyte> goffio, does not work
[01:49] <bluntz> breezy ran fine
[01:49] <jasunto> any ufw experts?
[01:49] <Torgoton> Halitech: ah. Well that's nearly the same thing, isn't it? Last time I tried, I couldn't get it to work. I could INSTALL Debian, then install Ubuntu 6.04, but I'm trying 8.04 because there are 386 netboot files.
[01:49] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: yup, no prob
[01:49] <killerbyte> goffio,  i have unmounted and mounted twice now
[01:49] <Cygnus__> root, free, and swap, all set.
[01:50] <pioov> help please, i install java runtime using synaptic, but the plugin does not work with firefox
[01:50] <goffio> killerbyte: wait, i'm checking with a vfat i have on my pc
[01:50] <jasunto>  i need help with a ufw syntax
[01:50] <killerbyte> goffio, ok thanks
[01:50] <Torgoton> Halitech: Actually, I don't think I had to install, but I had to make a partition, format it, and copy files to it, then run them... so ever harder than using DOS.
[01:50] <shingi> anybody available to help me with Totem player problem?
[01:50] <Halitech> Torgoton, I just use Debian on all my systems now but you should be able to go from 6.06 to 8.04 as they are both LTS
[01:50] <corollax> Install mplayer. >,>
[01:50] <bluntz> etch wont work for me
[01:50] <Torgoton> Halitech: I'm doing a clean install... mostly for kicks. Updating a thinkwiki page when I have it working.
[01:50] <charmarts> hi
[01:50] <bluntz> breezy runs gr8
[01:51] <Adola> Is there any way I can get automatix?
[01:51] <almark1> should I take this to off topic?
[01:51] <killerbyte> gogzmer, i tried sudo chmod 777 /media/1 but it didnt give me write access
[01:51] <Halitech> Torgoton, cool
[01:51] <r0ny> is it possible to downgrade using apt-get?
[01:51] <gogzmer> killerbyte: try writing to it via sudo, like sudo nano
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> r0bby: just one package or two?
[01:51] <Torgoton> Halitech: Maybe I'll come back when it boots... to get the pen working. :)
[01:51] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: just one package or two?
[01:52] <killerbyte> gogzmer, yes that works
[01:52] <shingi> When playing videos (.mov), when I pause the video and then click play to resume playing the totem video player goes blank and I have to close the application and open it again.
[01:52] <Halitech> Torgoton, sounds like an idea :) let us know if you get X working on that system too
[01:52] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:52] <adrian007> pioov: installing the JRE isn't enough you need to install the plugin too
[01:52] <Cygnus__> gogo gadget partitioning!
[01:52] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: just want to downgrade my lighttpd
[01:52] <gogzmer> killerbyte: hmm...after you ran chmod, run ls -alh against it...what does the file permission string look like? (the rwx string)
[01:52] <Torgoton> Halitech: Ugh. 320x200 is not very usable... and the video chip driver was never ported to x.org. WD90C24... ancient.
[01:52] <adrian007> pioov; search for java6-plugin in synaptic and try that
[01:53] <Torgoton> Halitech: 1 bit per pixel, too. Sweet.
[01:53] <majnoon> !ot
[01:53] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: yes.. i think that would be ok...
[01:53] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: is a bot
[01:53] <r0ny> kill it
[01:54] <Cygnus__> Okay, Ubuntu is giving me the opportunity to import stuff from my XP installation.  What excatly would it be importing, and to where?  Could I just instead access them through the mounted drive?
[01:54] <gogzmer> Torgoton: 1 bit per pixel...literally black and white...no grey?
[01:54] <onetinsoldier> ??
[01:54] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: sorry
[01:54] <r0ny> i thought you are a bot honestly
[01:54] <orange_tang> anyone have experience with getting ubuntu on laptops, i'm looking for advice
[01:54] <killerbyte> gogzmer, -rwxr-xr-x
[01:54] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: how can i downgrade?
[01:54] <gogzmer> Cygnus__: yes, you can access them later...keep it simple for now and don't import anything
[01:54] <Halitech> Torgoton, whoo hooo sounds like fun to me ~L~
[01:54] <Cygnus__> gogzmer: That's what I figured.
[01:54] <Torgoton> gogzmer: Yep. Well this is a 486 laptop, and the chip doesn't support VESA.
[01:54] <gogzmer> killerbyte: ok, who is the owner?
[01:54] <goffio> killerbyte: i have the correct mount invocation44
[01:54] <gogzmer> Torgoton: lol
[01:55] <killerbyte> gogzmer, root
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: ok, np. for the downgrade you might have to do...  apt-get --force-yes install <older_version>  ..i'm still reading
[01:55] <Torgoton> Halitech: I do have a differently-calibrated sense of fun.
[01:55] <Halitech> Torgoton, so I see
[01:55] <Torgoton> gogzmer: It had a VESA TSR for Windows 95 support. ugh.
[01:55] <killerbyte> goffio, ok thanks
[01:55] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:55] <shingi> Could somebody please help me with Totem player
[01:55] <goffio> killerbyte: after the -o change the "user" option for this:  "iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[01:55] <nwillettjeffries> @shingi what's the problem?
[01:55] <shingi> When playing videos (.mov), when I pause the video and then click play to resume playing the totem video player goes blank and I have to close the application and open it again.
[01:55] <goffio> killerbyte: (without double quotes)
[01:56] <gogzmer> killerbyte: ok, to get write permisions on that directory, run sudo chmod 777...that gives full permissions to everyone on the system for that directory...add -R to make it recursive
[01:56] <shingi> I mean I get a black screen although the sound will be comming through
[01:56] <gogzmer> goffio: using umask is cheating :) real admins only use chmod
[01:56] <nwillettjeffries> @shingi hmm...obligatory basic questions. You have the appropriate codecs installed
[01:56] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: ok
[01:56] <russ> Hi, can somebody help getting digital video capture to work with my Dell Inspiron 1420 1394 interface?
[01:57] <shingi> hmm, thats a good question. Thought that maybe since its playing the video then the codecs must be there
[01:57] <killerbyte> gogzmer, sudo chmod 777 /media/1 -R didnt give me write access either
[01:57] <nwillettjeffries> so it does play at least briefly?
[01:57] <gogzmer> killerbyte: did the permissions change?
[01:57] <killerbyte> no
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: what i am wondering is, where you will get the older version from... i'm thinking i might be wrong about apt-get. you might have to use aptitude
[01:58] <goffio> killerbyte: gogzmer, i'm no expert (just found it on a quick google search) but why is it cheating?
[01:58] <reportingsjr> Hi, I just installed ubuntu studio and it said it was added to grub, but when I started up my computer again it said loading grub... and started up normal ubuntu without showing the grub menu. What should I do?
[01:58] <gogzmer> goffio: is it mounting as read only?
[01:58] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: how can i do the same with aptitude
[01:58] <gogzmer> goffio: it was just a joke...it is the smarter, more elegant way of doing it
[01:58] <shingi> It plays the video ok and I have this problem when I pause the video or open another window e.g. home folder
[01:58] <MasterShrek> how do i reconfigure grub? my vista partition seems to have gone missing
[01:58] <nwillettjeffries> ok so you do have the codecs then. Are you running compiz?
[01:59] <goffio> goffio: but how can be smarter to alter the perms after mounting than to pass an option to mount?
[01:59] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[01:59] <shingi> no
[01:59] <killerbyte> gogzmer, any idea what is wrong?
[01:59] <shingi> I am running 8.10
[01:59] <goffio> goffio: what i try to say is, what advantages does it have?
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: you start aptitude, press / to start a seach on the package name. then when you have it highlighted, press Enter, then i think at the bottom it will show the available versions
[01:59] <gogzmer> goffio: I was saying your way, with umask, was better, more elegant :)
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> search*
[01:59] <nwillettjeffries> ok so it's not compiz then. Is it when you open any window at all? are there any other programs that involve video playback running (firefox with flash, etc...)
[02:00] <gogzmer> killerbyte: the only thing I can think of is that it is getting mounted as read only
[02:00] <shingi> Its like it does not want me to pause it or open any other window while the video is playing
[02:00] <gogzmer> killerbyte: otherwise, chmod should work, and you should be able to write to it as root
[02:00] <BlueLaguna> Has anyone here been able to use VirtualBox with VRDP on Ubuntu?
[02:00] <killerbyte> gogzmer, it stays -rwxr-xr-x after chmod anyway
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: then you can use the down-arrow to go down and highlight the various versions.  press + to mark for installation
[02:01] <shingi> There are no any other applications running that involve video
[02:01] <goffio> gogzmer: ROFL, i wasn't gettin you pal
[02:01] <nwillettjeffries> shingi, those are the obvious issue I could think of...someone else might know. I'm trying to figure it out right now but no guarantees...
[02:01] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: hen you press  g  start start download and installation
[02:01] <Raerlynn> hrm question: after installation, I let the machine reboot, removed the live disc, but it just goes to a blank screen
[02:01] <Raerlynn> any ideas?
[02:01] <nwillettjeffries> is it just .mov files or all video files?
[02:02] <gogzmer> killerbyte: right, so the only thing I can think of is that it is being mounted as red-only, which is preventing its permissions from allowing anyone to write...but somehow roots come in as able to write, even though it is mounted in such a way that it cant
[02:02] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[02:02] <goffio> Raerlynn, did you try to switch to a console? that would give you the clue if it is only a video problem
[02:02] <Raerlynn> ctrl alt f1 right?
[02:02] <Raerlynn> no response
[02:02] <goffio> yup
[02:02] <Varth> I'm having a problem burning a video DVD with Brasero. Would anyone be interested in helping me out?
[02:02] <shingi> so far I have only tried it with .mov files because those are the only i have got
[02:03] <r0ny> onetinsoldier: thanks
[02:03] <nwillettjeffries> hmm it would be nice to know if it's just .mov files and also whether it's just totem. Like will vlc run it?
[02:03] <goffio> Raerlynn: what about booting into rescue mode from grub, then take a look at /var/log/syslog?
[02:03] <Raerlynn> I don't even get a grub menu
[02:03] <shingi> let me install vlc and see if i still have this issue
[02:03] <nwillettjeffries> ok
[02:03] <Raerlynn> Just bios, Post, and then blank
[02:03] <onetinsoldier> r0ny: yw.. good luck.also, you might have older version in /var/cache/apt/archives which you can use 'dpkg' to install
[02:04] <Raerlynn> trying to boot to live disc
[02:04] <reportingsjr> Hi, I just installed ubuntu studio and it said it was added to grub, but when I started up my computer again it said loading grub... and started up normal ubuntu without showing the grub menu. What should I do?
[02:04] <goffio> Raerlynn, ah then it isn't even booting
[02:04] <Raerlynn> it's wierd. has no problem with windows, and I really want a Linux desktop T_T
[02:05] <cmdbbq> is it possible to have the "window list" panel applet show only icons, and not the names of windows?
[02:05] <Raerlynn> won't boot to a live CD
[02:05] <Raerlynn> or Live USB drive
[02:05] <nwillettjeffries> @raerlynn how much ram you running?
[02:05] <adrian007> Raerlynn: does your hard disk have an operating system on it allready?
[02:05] <Raerlynn> 2GB
[02:05] <Raerlynn> and no it shouldn't
[02:05] <elliottm> I'm running 64-bit kubuntu, and I have 4gb of ram installed, but linux is only seeing 3.2gb of it. I ran memtest86 on both modules individually, and there were no errors. I know my motherboard support it, so what's the problem?
[02:05] <Raerlynn> previously Windows Vista, did a complete reformat
[02:05] <goffio> Raerlynn: if you really want it nothing should stop you from having one. If it won't boot to a liveCD, how did you manage to install ubuntu?
[02:06] <Varth> I'm having a problem burning a video DVD with Brasero. Would anyone be interested in helping me out?
[02:06] <Raerlynn> I used the Live CD
[02:06] <keithclark> Anyone get an svideo out port to work on a laptop under 8.10?
[02:06] <shingi> vlc works sweet
[02:06] <crazy2k> Do you know any addictive multiplayer game for linux?
[02:06] <corollax> *wishes VLC would integrate into firefox*
[02:06] <crazy2k> Oh, and lightweight please.
[02:06] <corollax> crazy2k: how about WoW? <,<
[02:06] <Raerlynn> When I had Windows as my installed OS, it would boot to CD/USB
[02:06] <corollax> World of Warcraft fits your description quite well.
[02:06] <crimsun> corollax: meaning mozilla-plugin-vlc ?
[02:06] <nwillettjeffries> @shing kk great. I've had similar problems with totem in the past... vlc or mplayer are the way to go...
[02:06] <Raerlynn> But when I tried a dual boot, the status bar froze
[02:06] <corollax> crimsun: I shall have to check that out
[02:07] <Raerlynn> Tried a reboot to the USB drive, and did a complete reinstall
[02:07] <goffio> Raerlynn: that is crazy...you mean it booted to livecd but after install it doesn't anymore?
[02:07] <Raerlynn> that's it
[02:07] <shingi> Thanks heaps for your help
[02:07] <nwillettjeffries> no problem. have fun...
[02:07] <goffio> Raerlynn: bios settings for boot device are allright?
[02:07] <crazy2k> corollax: WoW?
[02:08] <nwillettjeffries> @varth is anyone helping you?
[02:08] <Raerlynn> hmm
[02:08] <ubuntu> guys, i need help installing ubuntu. Its this swap file i dont know how much i should put into it.
[02:08] <Varth> Nope.
[02:08] <corollax> crazy2k: world of warcraft. It runs spectacularly in wine.
[02:08] <corollax> ubuntu: How much RAM do you have? How much HD do you have?
[02:08] <Raerlynn> what's "alright"
[02:08] <nwillettjeffries> @varth ok so brasero won't burn a dvd?
[02:08] <Raerlynn> I force a boot to whichever device I want by pressing TAB during boot to pull a boot menu
[02:08] <ubuntu> corollax: I have 4 gigs of ram and i have 8 gigs left that i can dedicate to linux
[02:09] <gogzmer> ubuntu: and do you even want it to swap?
[02:09] <corollax> ubuntu: With 4 gigs of RAM, you may not even need a swap partition.
[02:09] <gogzmer> ubuntu: you don't need a swap file
[02:09] <nwillettjeffries> @ubuntu if it's a laptop you'll probably want a swap file if you want to suspend I think...can someone confirm that?
[02:09] <ubuntu> you guys sure?, and what about this /root thing how much gigs should i put into that?
[02:09] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: Yeah. It lets me add the files and everything, but once I click the burn button on the bottom right and the options dialog comes up, it won't let me actually initiate the burn by clicking the burn button in the dialog.
[02:09] <bluntz> small swap if any
[02:09] <corollax> nwillettjeffries -- I'l look into it.
[02:09] <goffio> Raerlynn, allright would be "boot from CD before trying the hard disks". But if you can get to a menu from POST and select the device from there that's allright too
[02:10] <elliottm> ubuntu I usually give 20gb to "/", and the rest to "/home"
[02:10] <cmdbbq> elliottm, may i pm you?
[02:10] <elliottm> in separate partitions
[02:10] <gogzmer> ubuntu: root should be about 20 GB, especially if you are new to linux and want to play around installing other random applications
[02:10] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: I've tried pretty much all of the options, but the button remains disabled.
[02:10] <mgolisch> it has to be as big as the memory for suspend to disk(hibernate)
[02:10] <Raerlynn> yeah, that works, then it doesn't go anywhere after the partitions
[02:10] <elliottm> cmdbbq: sure
[02:10] <corollax> ubuntu: For security purposes, you should allocate about 1 gig to /var.
[02:10] <Rawbutt> hello... i have 1 quick questions
[02:10] <elliottm> corollax: why?
[02:10] <corollax> elliottm: Log files go there -- you don't want excessive log files clogging up your root partition.
[02:11] <corollax> ellittm: This is ESPECIALLY true if you're doing a server.
[02:11] <nwillettjeffries> that's odd varth. basic questions initally...dvd is in drive? dvd is rewritable or has not been written to before
[02:11] <ubuntu> well, i have 16 gigs that i can use on linux because the real partition where i save all my music and stuff is around 450 gigs
[02:11] <goffio> Raerlynn: if you can't boot from livecd / usb, you won't be able to rescue your system imho
[02:11] <thiebaude1> wow
[02:11] <elliottm> wouldn't make sense to mount /var/long there then?
[02:11] <Cygnus___> Okay, so I got my install up and running, but the display I have plugged into the secondary port on my GPU is flippin' out
[02:11] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: DVD is in drive. It's DVD+R.
[02:11] <corollax> ubuntu: I'm checking on suspend issues. At present, I'd advise you to skip swap entirely.
[02:11] <gogzmer> corollax: unless you don't care about logs, and just pipe them all away to null :D
[02:11] <Raerlynn> yeah, last time this happened I pulled the drive out, slaved it to my desktop and reformatted
[02:11] <ubuntu> ok
[02:11] <corollax> elliottm: At that point, it's really more academic.
[02:11] <nwillettjeffries> kk varth let me look into it
[02:11] <ubuntu> thx every one
[02:11] <Raerlynn> then simply reinstalled windows from there
[02:11] <Rawbutt> im looking to use the "ls" command to see all available files in this one directory
[02:11] <Rawbutt> my command looks like this sorta
[02:11] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[02:11] <corollax> gogzmer: Yeah, but are YOU comfortable without an audit system?
[02:12] <elliottm> corollax: i'll remember that in the future
[02:12] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: Okay. Thank you. Brasero's help files aren't helping at all.
[02:12] <thiebaude1> happy holidays  everyone
[02:12] <Rawbutt> ls -la /home/xxx/music/??? *.mp3
[02:12] <Rawbutt> is that correct
[02:12] <Rawbutt> ?
[02:12] <nwillettjeffries> oh and varth, is it just some files you're burning or a disk image or video?...
[02:12] <corollax> elliottm: I have one for /, one for /var, one for swap, and one for /home
[02:12] <bluntz> atheros needs madwifi
[02:12] <goffio> Raerlynn: i'd took  that as a sign my mobo/controller is broken
[02:12] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: An .avi file.
[02:13] <Raerlynn> hope not, this my laptop =/
[02:13] <gogzmer> corollax: pretty much all well behaved applications that one will run on a server can be set to auto-rotate the log after it gets so big, or a certain ammount of time
[02:13] <nwillettjeffries> kk and internal or external disc burner?
[02:13] <goffio> :S
[02:13] <Raerlynn> a mobo replacement is not an option
[02:13] <gogzmer> corollax: if not, it is easy to set up a quota to monitor it without wasting partitions
[02:13] <Rawbutt> yay i got it working thanks
[02:13] <Rawbutt> *for nothing*
[02:13] <Rawbutt> =]
[02:13] <Raerlynn> it's an MSI Mega Book M675
[02:13] <goffio> Raerlynn: i have a laptop too, and the CD unit has problems too
[02:13] <kdogg> hello m working on a hp a1010n. When I reboot after install, login, it just hangs at a blank screen with the cursor showing.
[02:13] <Raerlynn> That's why I made a USB startup disc. Same error
[02:14] <kdogg> Im*
[02:14] <justmeyogs> hi there, hope someone can help me with some ubuntu questions
[02:14] <goffio> it has false contacts inside the bay, but if i turn off the laptop and make a little pushing/moving around, then turn on again it works for a while
[02:14] <MuZI> What's a good laptop to buy to run ubuntu on oob?
[02:14] <nwillettjeffries> @varth there's no copy protection of any kind on .avi file is there
[02:14] <thiebaude1> MuZI: Dell
[02:15] <ruhaan_jslip> i am looking for an ftp server with an easy to use GUI
[02:15] <goffio> justmeyogs: what questions?
[02:15] <ruhaan_jslip> any help wud be appreciated
[02:15] <MuZI> Any specific model or just the ones they have up on the site?
[02:15] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: Nope. Converted from a wmv off of my cousin's camera.
[02:15] <justmeyogs> can I unstall ubuntu from the CD without having it run the live CD?
[02:15] <gogzmer> ruhaan_jslip: server and gui are nearly oxymorons
[02:15] <draginxx> Is there a program that can recognize my speech and write it down into open office? I know a program like this exist for windows and I was like "Wow holy s* I need this!" :P So help would be greatly appreciated :)
[02:15] <exodus_ms> justmeyogs, alternative cd?
[02:15] <ruhaan_jslip> gogzmer: what do u mnea?
[02:15] <justmeyogs> i only havee the live CD
[02:16] <Torgoton> Halitech: 72 minutes and it started working again.
[02:16] <ruhaan_jslip> i just want something simple to server up select files on my local LAN
[02:16] <exodus_ms> justmeyogs, no, download the alternative cd
[02:16] <kdogg> justmeyogs, what version?
[02:16] <justmeyogs> older version 7.04
[02:16] <Cygnus___> Okay, I've run into a problem while installing the nVidia Accelerated Graphics Driver.  It says "failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[02:16] <thiebaude1> !intel
[02:16] <ozgurgerilla> Hi can someone help me with my Atheros wireless card please?
[02:16] <goffio> ruhaan_jslisp, in my case i find it easier to configure ssh to do that, i even can connect to the server with filezillaç
[02:17] <Halitech> Torgoton, just need to be patient by the looks of it
[02:17] <justmeyogs> i also get an error when live cd is loading when it detects the laptop is a IBM thinkpad
[02:17] <gogzmer> ssh-ing into a server and configuring whatever service you are trying to run often yields better results than attempting to go through a gui...linux is a config-file driven world, and going that route almost always yields the best results
[02:17] <cmdbbq> in XFCE there is a way to instruct the window list to display only icons, is this possible in gnome?
[02:17] <ruhaan_jslip> well see i dont want to use the terminal to server up a few fles
[02:17] <ruhaan_jslip> *serve
[02:17] <ruhaan_jslip> anythign with a simple gui wud do
[02:17] <nwillettjeffries> @varth not really sure how to fix this. Have you tried maybe a different program to burn it?
[02:17] <kdogg> justmeyogs, with the latest version hardy you can use the main disc, but 7.04 you will need alternate cd
[02:18] <kdogg> hello m working on a hp a1010n. When I reboot after install, login, it just hangs at a blank screen with the cursor showing.
[02:18] <cmdbbq> in other words, the window list applet shows the icons of all the open windows, but doesn't print the names after the icons
[02:18] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: No. Do you have one that you would recommend?
[02:18] <justmeyogs> ahh ok thanks kdogg...I will have to download it then
[02:18] <justmeyogs> whats the ram requirements for hardy?
[02:18] <kdogg> justmeyogs, i meant intrepid*
[02:18] <goffio> ruhaan_jslip: the "going thru the terminal" step is about 3 minutes, but if you want a GUI i know of a ftp server with gui on ubuntu, lemme remember
[02:18] <ubuntu> ubuntu is installing thanks everyone (so smooth compared to vista :D )
[02:18] <exodus_ms> !install
[02:19] <nwillettjeffries> i usually use brasero myself but you could try gnome baker or if you don't mind a kde program, maybe k3b
[02:19] <exodus_ms> justmeyogs, ^^
[02:19] <onetinsoldier> !hardware
[02:19] <justmeyogs> kdogg is that 8.10?
[02:19] <kdogg> yeah
[02:19] <goffio> ruhaan_jslip: vsftpd. Search for it on synaptic, the search will have also the entry for the GUI interface
[02:19] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx alot goffio appreciate it
[02:20] <nwillettjeffries> @varth serpentine would be another option I think
[02:20] <kdogg> i cant figure out why this computer wont boot, its a fresh install
[02:20] <Torgoton> gogzmer: Halitech: anyone.... which Installer components do I need during the install? block-modules? ide-modules? kernel-image? nic-pcmcia-modules? partman stuff?
[02:20] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: Okay. Thanks.
[02:20] <nwillettjeffries> @varth np. sorry i couldn't be more helpful
[02:20] <justmeyogs> exodus was that in reference to my ibm thinkpad question?
[02:20] <ruhaan_jslip> goffio: synaptic doesnt have a gui for vsftps
[02:20] <Varth> nwillettjeffries: It's all good. thanks for your time
[02:20] <gogzmer> Torgoton: huh? are you configuring an install disk yourself?
[02:20] <Halitech> ruhaan_jslip, you could try filezilla
[02:21] <Torgoton> gogzmer: I'm doing a netboot install.
[02:21] <ruhaan_jslip> isnt that windows only
[02:21] <ruhaan_jslip> the server i mean
[02:21] <ruhaan_jslip> i already use the cleint
[02:21] <exodus_ms> justmeyogs, yes,
[02:21] <Halitech> ruhaan_jslip, I use it on debian
[02:21] <goffio> ruhaan_jslip: sorry! was proftpd
[02:21] <ruhaan_jslip> Halitech: does filezilla ftp server have a linux version?
[02:22] <Halitech> ruhaan_jslip, not sure, sorry I thought you were looking for a client
[02:22] <Halitech> ruhaan_jslip, proftpd as goffio suggested works well
[02:22] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx installin now
[02:22] <Cygnus___> Anybody help me out?  I'm trying to set up my dual-displays, and the one plugged into the secondary port on my computer is flipping out.
[02:22] <goffio> ruhaan_jslip: but it recommend you again to try ssh, it is very straightforward to set it up, and has lots of benefits over plain FTP, besides maybe it also has GUI (dunno about that tho=
[02:23] <elliottm> how exactly is it flipping out?
[02:23] <exodus_ms> ruhaan_jslip, --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> goffio: i already use SSh for my servers
[02:23] <Cygnus___> Hmm... Solution pending as it solves itself...
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> and i use the terminal for those
[02:23] <gogzmer> ssh is trivial to set up, not just easy
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> but i prefer a GUI for my local stuff
[02:23] <goffio> ruhaan_jslip: then you have FTP
[02:23] <zsquareplusc> goffio: GUI? yes. nautlius with sftp:// on linux and winscp on windoze
[02:23] <adrian007> ruhaan_jslip:  can't you use SCP?
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> on my server lol not on my home pc
[02:24] <cQ> how to mount my /dev/sda2??it is NTFS partition
[02:24] <goffio> zsquareplusc: i meant a GUI to configure the server
[02:24] <exodus_ms> !ntfs
[02:24] <bcarter> can anyone here help with mod_rewrite on apache2?
[02:24] <nwillettjeffries> even if it's a ntfs partition it should mount
[02:24] <gogzmer> ruhaan_jslip: ssh lets you have sftp...and there are lots of gui sftp clients
[02:24] <ruhaan_jslip> hmm
[02:24] <Torgoton> Can someone with low memory install knowhow suggest some installer components to select?
[02:24] <zelda> hrm
[02:24] <goffio> it is better than plain old ftp, that's for sure
[02:24] <zimbres> what is the command to download source code apt-get ...?
[02:25] <justmeyogs> are older versions of ubuntu still available?
[02:25] <bluntz> is anyone running any voice recog wares?
[02:25] <zsquareplusc> goffio: ah. i don't know any of these kind.
[02:25] <[NetSkier>  What is the recommended way to upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 to 8.1 when adept does not work?  The old 'apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[02:25] <justmeyogs> i have an old ibm thinkpad, would kubuntu be my better bet to install?
[02:25] <zsquareplusc> zimbres: apt-get source <pgk>
[02:25] <exodus_ms> [NetSkier, chekc your 'Software Sources'
[02:25] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: no
[02:25] <adrian007> justmeyogs: what model is it?
[02:25] <D3RGPS31> How do I disable swap-space :D
[02:25] <bluntz> no
[02:25] <goffio> zsquareplusc: me neither, but chances are that there is one, i have synaptic running so i can't check
[02:26] <justmeyogs> A21m
[02:26] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: Why do think kubuntu would be better?
[02:26] <[NetSkier> exodus_ms, k, will do.
[02:26] <Cpudan80> A21 ?
[02:26] <Cpudan80> ouch
[02:26] <Cpudan80> that is old
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> goffio: apt-cache should still work ;-)
[02:26] <nwillettjeffries> @justmeyogs xubuntu would be more lightweight if you're concerned about old hardware
[02:26] <adrian007> justmeyogs: the lightest gui would be xubuntu, but i would probably use a server install - ie no gui on that machine
[02:26] <robd> Hey guys
[02:26] <ozgurgerilla> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[02:26] <justmeyogs> Cpudan: I was under the impression kubuntu was for systems with lower resources
[02:26] <goffio> zsquareplusc: good! i'll play with it now :)
[02:26] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: That's Xubuntu
[02:26] <Torgoton> justmeyogs: Which thinkpad do you have?
[02:26] <adrian007> justmeyogs: nah, KDE is no faster than Gnome
[02:26] <robd> I'm looking for a good open source blog package. What would you guys suggest? (I've heard a lot about WordPress...)
[02:26] <Org-Mode> that would be xubuntu
[02:27] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: KDE uses more resources than gnome
[02:27] <exodus_ms> [NetSkier, look in 'Updates' Release upgrade should be changed to "Normal Release'
[02:27] <ruhaan_jslip> robd: wordpress is the best
[02:27] <justmeyogs> Torgoton: A21m
[02:27] <justmeyogs> what GUI does xubuntu use?
[02:27] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: XFCE
[02:27] <Torgoton> justmeyogs: Ah.Regular Ubuntu will work well... but Xubuntu perhaps a bit better. How much memory do you have?
[02:27] <bluntz> 560E
[02:27] <ruhaan_jslip> robd: this blog runs on wordpress linuxprimetime.com
[02:27] <cQ> i have problem with ubuntu 8.10.whan i browsing internet content that have flash.it become lag n slow
[02:27] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: Looks very similar to gnome
[02:28] <cQ> i have problem with ubuntu 8.10.whan i browsing internet content that have flash.it become lag n slow.how to fix ths??happen to any1 also?
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> justmeyogs: old-releases.ubu... but why do you need old ones?
[02:28] <Cpudan80> And Torgoton has a good point -- how much mem do you have justmeyogs
[02:28] <Computer01> merry christmas everyone!
[02:28] <ruhaan_jslip> cQ: try the flash 10
[02:28] <justmeyogs> 256 ram
[02:28] <Computer01> lol
[02:28] <ruhaan_jslip> flash 9 has this problem
[02:28] <justmeyogs> max ram is 512
[02:28] <cQ> ok
[02:28] <potwak> merry christmas everyone!
[02:28] <potwak> lol
[02:28] <bluntz> ram 80
[02:28] <Cpudan80> justmeyogs: Go with XUbuntu unless you max it out to 512, in which case go with regular
[02:28] <Torgoton> justmeyogs: Xubuntu until you upgrade the RAM. Get as much as you can.
[02:28] <justmeyogs> xp installs fine but would prefer something better hence ubuntu
[02:28] <Torgoton> Jink!
[02:28] <cattle-rancher> potwak, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <Torgoton> x