[04:10] <underdev> Dr_Willis: i tried the usb-boot-creator, and my bios doesn't recognize it as a usb anything...
[04:10] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey reading now
[04:10] <underdev> Dr_Willis: Ty, i'll check that site out
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  thats odd.. and unetbootin made usb did work?
[04:10] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: that one goes on my scratchpad..
[04:11] <underdev> downloading the iso now, i may try again with the 32 bit version
[04:11] <underdev> Thanks Dr_Willis
[04:11] <Purpley> Im trying to access my new user via ssh but when i enter the user and pass it says Access Denied
[04:11] <today> Dr_Willis:  me too, but has problem with my smb config, then i must go #ubuntu and ask some one
[04:11] <Iklos> MoLE_   -  "gnome-panel --replace" was what I typed - the panel went away, so I figured a restart would bring it back.  Now unfortunately, I am missing the window to loging with, and the panel at the bottom of the login screen.
[04:11] <Iklos> *log in with
[04:12] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey it says it is installing... maybee it wasn't
[04:12] <Iklos> MoLE_  -  I was able to login via the safe mode feature through the ncurses, but I must admit I am rather attatched to X
[04:12] <meowbuntu> hi i need a small browser for ubuntu. not firefox or chrome. and not cli.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> today:  i change about 4 lines in the default smb.conf to get my stuff going.. set workgroup. and uncomment the HOME shares stuff.  and set them to be writeable - thats about it. i DONT use the 'user made share' feature at all
[04:12] <Purpley> meowbuntu: try elinks
[04:12] <today> now, i just only want to config samba for acess other PC at Lan
[04:12] <Cornwall> carthagian_: What kind of file are you trying to play?
[04:12] <carthagian_> MP3
[04:12] <Cornwall> meowbuntu: Midori is a nice, fast one
[04:13] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: links2, elinks, lynx, there are more in the repos
[04:13] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: I would have thought that you would try runnung the ndisgtk command first...
[04:13] <Purpley> meowbuntu: that strips a lot of elements though like javascript css java etc.
[04:13] <cavemanugh> hello
[04:13] <carthagian_> The problem appeared when i Uninstalled Totem And Reinstalled IT ! Cornwall
[04:13] <SpaceCowboy40404> i did not.... this is day one with ubuntu :)
[04:13] <meowbuntu> purestrain, read i said not cli
[04:13] <today> can you send for me standard smb conf file Dr_Willis?
[04:13] <SpaceCowboy40404> err day one with any OS thats not windows :)
[04:13] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: all good :)
[04:14] <AK> I hv a issue on SOund recorder
[04:14] <Cornwall> meowbuntu: epiphany is also nice and lightweight :)
[04:14] <meowbuntu> Purpley, i sad not a cli browser
[04:14] <AK> who can help me
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> today:  you edited yours without backing it up? My configs are all edited by me.. and for 10.04 - so i dont have any of the other ones..
[04:14] <Purpley> meowbuntu: Oh sorry
[04:14] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: elinks is a cli browser
[04:14] <today> yes , i forget to back up smb conf file
[04:14] <hiexpo> i wonder how the weather is over there in Balaklava Australia
[04:14] <ardchoille> nvm
[04:14] <IdleOne> hiexpo: how is that ubuntu support related?
[04:15] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: misread your initial post, sorry
[04:15] <hiexpo> its not
[04:15] <today> uhm, i cant do my problem Dr_Willis :(
[04:15] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey do i use the NT or 9x driver?
[04:15] <ubuntu> hello
[04:15] <IdleOne> !hi | ubuntu
[04:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey both have a .inf file in them
[04:16] <Cornwall> meowbuntu: skipstone is also super lightweight (might be gtk1, though, and not in the repos)
[04:16] <greezmunkey> today: look here, rock stock file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411913/
[04:16] <MoLE_> Iklos, I'm just researching a solution
[04:16] <ubuntu> you can helpme
[04:16] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - :) well good evening to ya
[04:16] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: maybe midori?
[04:16] <IdleOne> hiexpo: :)
[04:16] <ubuntu> not yet
[04:16] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: hmm, if I had to guess I'd use the NT file
[04:16] <today> lastest time, i do with that tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 and access other PC( but can make other PC access my Ubuntu )
[04:17] <today> now i can do that both
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> today:  Huh?  Theres books written on using samba. ages ago i just started reading along in  the 'using samba' one. and by chapter 4 i had my system going.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | today
[04:17] <today> thanks greezmunkey
[04:17] <greezmunkey> today: I backed mine up ;)
[04:18] <Rewind> Somebody here?
[04:18] <MoLE_> Iklos, try this solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/482690/comments/11
[04:18] <IdleOne> Rewind: hello
[04:18] <Rewind> i found a bug in Ubuntu
[04:18] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey brb restarting network now
[04:18] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: cool
[04:18] <IdleOne> Rewind: report it to Launchpad.net
[04:19] <Iklos> MoLE_ -   I stopped the fish - then I restarted - now I can't log in
[04:19] <Iklos> MoLE_ -  graphically at least
[04:19] <Rewind> IdleOne: but first  i need other view
[04:19] <MoLE_> Iklos, follow the instructions - you need to recreate your gnome-panel to login, it seems
[04:19] <IdleOne> Rewind: shoot, I'll see if I can reproduce
[04:20] <MoLE_> Iklos, Ctrl-Alt-F1 to open a virtual terminal
[04:20] <Rewind> IdleOne:  Give me a second
[04:20] <MoLE_> Iklos, then login using your normal login and password
[04:20] <Rewind> it's about the atl1e drivers or atl1c
[04:20] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - thathad nothing to do with ubuntu but i walked in the door sat down read my screen and seen one of the persons said whois soinso so i rana quick scan and fingerprint and typed that // and that usually scares em away lol
[04:21] <MoLE_> Iklos, then type in "killall gnome-panel" without the quotes, of course
[04:21] <Purpley> I just added a user via useradd and when i type in "users" it only lists root
[04:21] <Purpley> but the user i created has a home directory and it says it exists
[04:22] <Rewind> when i up the drivers , Ubuntu crash after reboot
[04:22] <Rewind> exit
[04:22] <IdleOne> Rewind: I don't know what those drivers are for
[04:22] <IdleOne> and you left....
[04:22] <Iklos> MoLE_ - it replied "no process found"
[04:23] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  and now i see it is of one of the persons helping lol
[04:23] <Purpley> I just added a user via useradd and when i type in "users" it only lists root but the user exists why isnt it showing?
[04:23] <magger> where can i find a guide on how to install ubuntu using the alternate installation disc?
[04:23] <nullkuhl> how to access temperature sensors in ubuntu, i remember it was some echo command from a certain directory or so ? plz help
[04:23] <MoLE_> Iklos, then try running gnome-panel by typing in "gnome panel &" without the quotes
[04:23] <MoLE_> Iklos, sorry gnome-panel
[04:23] <maco> Purpley: it only lists logged in users
[04:24] <hiexpo> nullkuhl, lib-sensors
[04:24] <Purpley> how do i view the users password if im root?
[04:24] <Skeebers> hello
[04:24] <Purpley> i think i may be doing it wrong
[04:24] <maco> Purpley: you can view a *hash* of the password if you look in /etc/shadow
[04:24] <maco> Purpley: the password is not stored plaintext anywhere though
[04:24] <Purpley> maco: Can i reset the password?
[04:25] <IdleOne> hiexpo: it's lm-sensors  :)
[04:25] <maco> Purpley: sure, "sudo passwd username"
[04:25] <magger> Purpley:  you can set a new password using pwd
[04:25] <maco> magger: er no
[04:25] <Purpley> alright thanks
[04:25] <maco> magger: pwd Prints Working Directory
[04:25] <Iklos> MoLE_    -  oh boy... now I'm worried it says " cannot open display"
[04:25] <magger> arsh my bad
[04:25] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - ok get specific why don't ya
[04:26] <IdleOne> hiexpo: sorry dude :) just trying to help you help
[04:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey im gonna cry
[04:26] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: why?
[04:26] <hiexpo> i know i am tired
[04:26] <cloud> last time I try out random commands.........
[04:26] <Purpley> Does denyhost block an ip address after failing a certain number of logins?
[04:26] <IdleOne> hiexpo: haha unless I am mistaken linux is pretty picky about package names and such
[04:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> its till not seeing the wireless card even though it has the drivers installed with ndis
[04:26] <zdwc01_> 400220
[04:26] <MoLE_> Iklos, don't panic, just means the xorg display isn't responding.  Try going Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to your brown screen
[04:27] <magger> where can i find a guide on how to install ubuntu using the alternate installation disc?
[04:27] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - ah it don't care lol
[04:27] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: relax, it's nothing but a thing to figure out.
[04:27] <Purpley> Does denyhost block an ip address after failing a certain number of logins?
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[04:27] <cloud> mole: ya know how to get a Wii Remote (or other device that lacks a keypad and screen) to sync on Ubuntu 9.10?
[04:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey any other ideas?
[04:27] <bazhang> magger, its fairly simple, there is a text based (ncurses) interface just amoment
[04:27] <IdleOne> !ops | l0de
[04:27] <Iklos> MoLE_   - thanks for your patience - the lovely brown has returned
[04:27] <Captain_Long> Hey there. I am admittedly on my first install. I have a bit of an issue though, in that I am not entirely certain how to get the wireless working. It wants to activate these two drivers. . .
[04:27] <IdleOne> !language > l0de
[04:27] <hiexpo> !spam
[04:27] <cloud> mole: it DEMANDS I unput the sync number =-=; which I can't
[04:28] <magger> thx bazhang
[04:28] <ziroday> Purpley: yep, or you can use fail2ban
[04:28] <MoLE_> cloud, sorry I have no experience with a Wii
[04:28] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: not without digging into it even more. Do you know that the card works?
[04:28] <cloud> mole: not Wii...bluetooth. It's a general Bluetooth problem. anyone here who does?
[04:28] <MoLE_> cloud, I can sync a Palm device and a nokia phone though
[04:28] <ShazbotMcNasty> !ubottu
[04:28] <ziroday> Purpley: denyhosts is mainly meant for ssh, whilst fail2ban works on a number of services
[04:28] <Purpley> ziroday: Lol i blocked my own ip address :P how would I take that out or give a certain ip immunity
[04:28] <Dunsti> hi all
[04:28] <hiexpo> !hi
[04:29] <MoLE_> cloud, can you be more specific about the problem?
[04:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey it should... i just bought it today at walmart... lemme try the drivers on the installation cd instead of the drivers im using from linksys's website
[04:29] <bazhang> magger, the up and down arrows and tab/enter keys are what you use
[04:29] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: That's the way to do it!
[04:29] <bazhang> magger, ie no mouse
[04:29] <nullkuhl> is it possible to tell cpu/gpu/mb temperature in ubunty if its managed by ACPI and not OS ?
[04:29] <magger> thank you i tough it would be alil more tricky.. so i jsut boot on the cd aswell..
[04:29] <Purpley> ziroday: Might my ip address be listed in the cfg file?
[04:29] <ziroday> Purpley: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#3_7
[04:29] <tachiro1> anyone know of a good simple but powerful audio converter for ubuntu?
[04:29] <MoLE_> Iklos, can you login now?
[04:29] <cloud> mole: =/ I have a Bluetooth device. When I try to connect it, the computer gives me a number to punch in via the device, as if I were trying to connect a cellphone or PDA. Unfortunately most Bluetooth devices don't HAVE that capability.
[04:29] <Dunsti> I want to make a "clean" reinstall of my system, and want to make a backup first - what directories should I backup? (sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu)
[04:30] <Baram> I'm rebuilding a failed system, I've managed to recover almost the entire /home, should I put it in place before I reinstall (/home being a seperate partition) or should I do it after reinstall?
[04:30] <Purpley> ziroday: Thanks alot :)
[04:30] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  what did ya buy at wally world wifi dongle linksys?
[04:30] <Captain_Long> When I'm booting it tells me to go to a certain website to install these drivers or something, but it goes by too quickly for me to catch it.
[04:30] <ziroday> Purpley: no problems
[04:30] <zamabe> hmm, i can't get a GUI on boot without a keyboard plugged in =/
[04:30] <ziroday> Captain_Long: is it a graphical popup or a text message?
[04:30] <Iklos> MoLE_ -   no - still brown, but no login screen
[04:31] <greezmunkey> hiexpo: he has a Linksys WPC54g, broadcom PCMCIA card.
[04:31] <Purpley> ziroday: Also would it be considered foolish and unsafe or bad practice to make my local networks ip addresses immune?
[04:31] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: This is before I even reach the "ubuntu is loading" screen, just a few lines of text that pop up.
[04:31] <Captain_Long> Not an actual graphic.
[04:31] <hiexpo> greezmunkey, i wont work
[04:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo its linksys wpc54g pcmia wireless card
[04:31] <W43372> I can't get Ubuntu to mount my windows network.
[04:31] <ziroday> Purpley: *shrug* I just use a ssh certificate in all honesty, I don't rely on password based logins
[04:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey no dice with the drivers form the cd either
[04:31] <hiexpo> it won't work
[04:31] <ziroday> Captain_Long: okay, can you pastebin your /var/log/syslog, the message should be in there
[04:32] <MoLE_> cloud, I don't have any direct experience with that (all my bluetooth devices have a way of entering data), but I would imagine that the bluetooth pin is hardcoded to the device.  If you know the number, there is a way of telling Ubuntu that number so the association can be made.
[04:32] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo why not?
[04:32] <Purpley> ziroday: Does that mean you can only connect to the server if you have the certificate on your computer?
[04:32] <greezmunkey> hiexpo: Tell us a story about that card please.
[04:32] <ziroday> Purpley: yep
[04:32] <hiexpo> they changed the chipset
[04:32] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: Rather difficult, since I haven't actually been to connect to the net yet.
[04:32] <cloud> MoLE_: Does it normally ask for the input thing anyway if the
[04:33] <cloud> mole: ... if the PIN is invalid?
[04:33] <Purpley> ziroday: Ahhh I can't use that :/ I travel often and cant be pained to remeber a usb thumbdrive :)
[04:33] <MoLE_> Iklos, I would try rebooting the computer and selecting 'repair mode' from the grub screen.  The menu should offer you a means of fixing a broken xorg.
[04:33] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: If that's true, at least WallMart has a decent return policy.
[04:33] <ziroday> Captain_Long: ah. Wired or wireless?
[04:33] <ShadowKnight> hey, i came across a problem right now. for some reason my keyboard doesnt work. it is only in ubuntu gde that it happened everything else works fine
[04:33] <ShadowKnight> i know it said something about slow keys or something. idk what to do, any help?
[04:33] <Captain_Long> Wireless
[04:33] <hiexpo> maybe with a wrapper but that is useless
[04:33] <ziroday> Purpley: sure, its not a suitable fit for everyone :)
[04:33] <ziroday> Captain_Long: okay, what wireless card?
[04:33] <MoLE_> cloud, what do you mean "if the PIN is invalid"
[04:33] <Viking667> ShadowKnight: sounds like you have to turn SlowKeys back off again.
[04:33] <Iklos> MoLE_   -   yeah - I was just gonna say that a startx revealed taht x was the problem
[04:33] <ziroday> Captain_Long: and what version of ubuntu
[04:33] <Iklos> MoLE_   -    ill work on it
[04:33] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey once you open it.. its yours... for good.. this sux
[04:33] <Viking667> ShadowKnight: and that bit, I don't know how to do...
[04:33] <cloud> mole: if I use the wrong PIN..
[04:34] <Captain_Long> ziroday: I couldn't tell you the card, but it's 9.10
[04:34] <cloud> mole: Nevermid, there -is- no PIN...
[04:34] <ShadowKnight> okay thanks viking667
[04:34] <ziroday> Captain_Long: sure, if you do lspci | grep -i network you should see some mention of a wireless card
[04:34] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo is that just with all linksys cards or just that particular card?
[04:35] <MoLE_> cloud, then that would be a violation of the bluetooth standard I suspect, as I'm not sure that a 'null' PIN is legal.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> 0000 is not Null. :)
[04:36] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: I'm frankly not sure how to do that. *headscratch* Real nublet here. No worries, though, I'm not a moron.
[04:36] <Berzerker> having a null pin would probably be the safest, since you can't type nothing into the pin thing anyway
[04:36] <cloud> guide says there's no PIN
[04:37] <MoLE_> cloud, have you had a look at his page in the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CWiiD
[04:37] <ziroday> Captain_Long: oh sure sorry, Go to Applications > Terminal and then type in "lspci" and search for any mention of your wireless card
[04:37] <W43372> I can't get Ubuntu to mount my windows network.
[04:37] <cloud> Nope, thanks
[04:37] <hiexpo> just that card but you have to be careful things are changing with linlsys there cards use to be assumed great but do to regulations there not open cards like they were //// i always do a check on model number and version before i buy them
[04:38] <MoLE_> cloud, this google search turned up that link http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=pair+wii+remote+with+ubuntu
[04:38] <cloud> "couldn't find package libcwiid0"
[04:38] <sereph> for some reason im not able to connect to wifi, its not giving me any errors i just enter the key and wait for a while and it asks for the key again
[04:38] <meowbuntu> hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[04:39] <SpaceCowboy40404> greezmunkey / hiexpo ... any reccomendations for a card to buy that i can just plug into the pcmia slot and it will work with no problems
[04:39] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: Network Controller?
[04:39] <hiexpo> because just because the model is ok does not mean anything the next version could be a blank because they changed the chipset
[04:39] <ziroday> Captain_Long: sure, what does it say?
[04:39] <MoLE_> cloud, do you have all the repositories enabled?  Including Universe, restricted and multiverse?  (Go to Software sources and check)
[04:39] <greezmunkey> W43372: sorry about that, do you have a hosts file on your winboxes? \windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.txt I believe?
[04:39] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404, let me look
[04:39] <Captain_Long> Network controller: broadcom coroporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[04:39] <cloud> mole: don't know what those are.
[04:40]  * gent destroys nVidia
[04:40] <MoLE_> cloud, go to system, administration, software sources
[04:40] <greezmunkey> W43372: that file may not have an extension
[04:40] <ziroday> Captain_Long: perfect, that's your wireless card. Now how did you install ubuntu?
[04:40] <SpaceCowboy40404> captain long.. thats the same card i have that we just found out dont work
[04:40] <MoLE_> cloud, go through the tabs and have a look at which sources you have checked
[04:40] <W43372> greezmunkey, yes, hosts has
[04:41] <Captain_Long> Currently just on the live cd. Figured it was wise to figure out the net before actually going through with installation.
[04:41] <greezmunkey> W43372: is there a line that says localhost?
[04:41] <SpaceCowboy40404> captain long.. is that card working for you?
[04:41] <Iklos> MoLE_ - I went to recovery mode and tried the dpckg thing to clean something up - it ran, and then i logged in as root and typed "startx"  I was then presented with the default ubuntu screen.  I went under system, switch user, and was presented with the error "Unable to start new Display -  the name org.gnome.DisplayManager was not provided by any .service files"
[04:42] <Captain_Long> SpaceCowboy: Couldn't say. Never connected to the net using Ubuntu before.
[04:42] <W43372> greezmunkey lmhosts
[04:42] <greezmunkey> W43372: no hosts?
[04:42] <SpaceCowboy40404> captain long i have the same card and have been trying to get it to work for about an hour now and found out that it wont work for ubuntu
[04:42] <W43372> greezmunkey there is hosts and lmhosts
[04:42] <ziroday> Captain_Long: ah right, well if you are still on the livecd then you probably can't install the drivers to get the wireless card working as it requires a reboot. However I'm reasonably certain that card works with ubuntu
[04:42] <cloud> mole: uh...
[04:42] <MoLE_> Iklos, that's not the option you want - you probably don't need to clean up dpkg, you need the option to reset the xorg settings (further down the list if i remember)
[04:42] <Captain_Long> SpaceCowboy: That would be my luck.
[04:42] <cloud> mole: apparently none o_O
[04:43] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: it sounds like you are doing something wrong :)
[04:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday.... hiexpo says it wont
[04:43] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - the best i will do is give you a  link that will tell all that i get a  lot of my info from is aircrack-ng and go to compatibility
[04:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday if i am please help
[04:43] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: what drivers have you installed?
[04:43] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: Bah. Say, just a moment. Is the "key" the same as the password?
[04:43] <bazhang> SpaceCowboy40404, check the chipset then, bcm should most clearly work
[04:43] <SpaceCowboy40404> i tried the propriety and the ndis othing
[04:43] <ziroday> Captain_Long: key?
[04:43] <hiexpo> if its compatible it will be there
[04:43] <cloud> mole: ...selecting the ones that were there seems to have done nothing
[04:43] <_pg_> does anyone have experience making bootable usb stick of ubuntu from osx disk utility? I have done it befiore but cannot now and its driving me mad
[04:44] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: right, well what does "lsmod | grep wl" turn up?
[04:44] <Captain_Long> Create new wireless network:
[04:44] <SpaceCowboy40404> hieziroday lemme check
[04:44] <Captain_Long> Connection: Network Name: wireless security: keyL:
[04:44] <ziroday> Captain_Long: ah yes, when it says key it means password. Is this a WEP encrypted access point?
[04:44] <W43372> greezmunkey there is hosts and lmhosts
[04:44] <greezmunkey> W43372: open hosts with notepad, and edit the line that says localhost it should say localhost then some spaces, or a tab, then the machine name - preferably the same name of the machine which can be foud by typing "net config workstation" in a dos window
[04:44] <MoLE_> cloud, you need to check all the boxes for the 4 basic repositories and then close the software sources, then it will prompt you to reload your software index
[04:44] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404, what version is yours before i blaber my mouth    ?
[04:45] <greezmunkey> W43372: that make sense to you?
[04:45] <Viking667> just don't select backports or testing
[04:45] <cloud> mole: which tab?
[04:45] <W43372> greezmunkey, Yes. Yes, it does.
[04:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday... this is what that gives: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411920/
[04:45] <hiexpo> its on the card ver
[04:45] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: Couldn't say. The guy in charge is pretty clueless. I have the patience for arbitrary checking.
[04:45]  * Viking667 heads off to walk into SL for a wander.
[04:45] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo version 1
[04:45] <Iklos> MoLE_  -  I dont have that option for some reason afaik   -  my options are   "  Resume    Clean     Dpkg      Grub      Netroot     Root"
[04:45] <_pg_> oes anyone have experience making bootable usb stick of ubuntu from osx disk utility? I have done it befiore but cannot now and its driving me mad
[04:45] <hiexpo> ok 1 sec
[04:46] <MoLE_> Iklos, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:46] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: okay, can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog and the output of the commands "ifconfig -a" and "lshw -C network" please
[04:46] <Iklos> MoLE_   -   9.10
[04:46] <sereph> for some reason im not able to connect to wifi, its not giving me any errors i just enter the key and wait for a while and it asks for the key again, it worked on my home network but this network it isnt working for some reason
[04:46] <ShazbotMcNasty> _pg_, have you tried unetbootin?
[04:46] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday ok
[04:46] <ziroday> Captain_Long: sure, no worries then
[04:46] <W43372> greezmunkey I have <IP_ADDRESS> as localhost
[04:47] <ironfoot495> Hello I need some help . I can't open my display on ubuntu 9.10.
[04:47] <Captain_Long> Let me know if any of them require special steps. Should be pretty standard though. This is the boonies, no need for the latest NSA encryption.
[04:47] <greezmunkey> W43372: Thats good make it say <IP_ADDRESS> localhosts {your machine name here} all on the same line
[04:47] <histo> is there a way to switch to a user with out a password?
[04:47] <MoLE_> Iklos, I'm sorry but I'm lost as to where you are at with the boot menu - I presume you have already selected the second entry on the grub screen "recovery"
[04:47] <histo> i'm trying su faxmaster because the faxmaster has mail
[04:47] <greezmunkey> W43372: localhost, not localhosts
[04:47] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: that is a last resort-I HAVE done it before in osx disk utility. I dont know why Im having trouble all of a sudden
[04:48] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: thanks though :D
[04:48] <ziroday> Captain_Long: not that I know off, only wpa2-enterprise can get a little sticky, but I doubt you are using that
[04:48] <ironfoot495> I have the terminal display but can't get the graphical display???
[04:48] <Iklos> MoLE_  indeed   -  im then led to a blue screen with the aforementioned options.
[04:48] <ShazbotMcNasty> _pg_, why don't you want to use unetbootin?
[04:48]  * sereph thinks hes gonna need to just install windows...
[04:48] <ShazbotMcNasty> I mean.. it's super easy, and works every time.
[04:48] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: We're likely pretty good then. I've just selected to begin installation.
[04:48] <W43372> greezmunkey do I use the brackets? What good does that do if <IP_ADDRESS> isn't the IP on the network?
[04:48] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: cause that would require a reboot. and I have a ton of things cooking here in osx
[04:49] <ironfoot495> The mouse Icon comes up but goes directly to the terminal Display!!
[04:49] <Captain_Long> Nothing seems to be happening though. . .
[04:49] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: plus, i will need to do it more in the future and just like it is driving me insane. it should be so simple
[04:49] <ziroday> Captain_Long: awesome! Basically after you've installed you need to re-insert the CD and add it as a software source in System > Administration > Software Sources and then run System > Hardware Drivers
[04:49] <Iklos> MoLE_   -  I should mention that I'm dual boot Vista and 9.10 and that my 9.10 has several kernal versions hanging around AND Im using what I still believe is the beta version of grubs
[04:49] <ironfoot495> Is there a way to fix this???
[04:49] <ShazbotMcNasty> _pg_, it only requires a reboot when you are booting it
[04:49] <greezmunkey> W43372: example line: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost winbox1
[04:49] <ziroday> Captain_Long: give it a sec :)
[04:49] <MoLE_> Iklos, Odd Not sure why they removed the xorg fix option
[04:49] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: i would have to reboot into windows to use unetbootin
[04:49] <Iklos> >.>;
[04:49] <ShazbotMcNasty> ironfoot495, in terminal type 'startx'
[04:49] <ShazbotMcNasty> oh
[04:49] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday... here ya go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411923/
[04:49] <MoLE_> I will have to check my 9.10 install
[04:49] <ironfoot495> I've got a lot of files I'm trying to keep from loosing??
[04:49] <greezmunkey> W43372: save that then from a dos window ping winbox1, see what happens
[04:49] <ShazbotMcNasty> I wasn't sure if you could use the unetbootin bin in osx
[04:50] <ShazbotMcNasty> since it is nuix/bsd based...
[04:50] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: you need to do "cat /var/log/syslog", sorry
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ShazbotMcNasty:  it also has windows binaries. - but ive neer seen os-x ones
[04:50] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: afaik there is only a windows version
[04:50] <W43372> greezmunkey wouldn't it be <IP_ADDRESS> localhost Carrier seeing as that's the IP of the winbox on the network?
[04:50] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: also can you do "lsmod" please
[04:50] <greezmunkey> W43372: Do you give your PCs static addresses?
[04:50] <ironfoot495> I typed startx and it says server error!
[04:50] <ShazbotMcNasty> afaik?
[04:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> ironfoot495, then you broke something
[04:51] <hiexpo> OK if you get that card to work your a magician unless your using a wrapper
[04:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> _pg_, well there is a linux version...
[04:51] <kermit> is there a way to make a copy-on-write file?
[04:51] <W43372> greezmunkey no, but that's what the IP is and has been for a while.
[04:51] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: is the wireless card detected by network manager?
[04:51] <Captain_Long> Bah, I'm an impatient one.
[04:51] <ironfoot495> ShazbotMcNasty: can you help me?
[04:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> but you're in osx..
[04:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> ironfoot495, well I don't know what you did.
[04:51] <ShazbotMcNasty> What'd you do before it broke?
[04:51] <greezmunkey> W43372: Then do that, it's ok
[04:51] <_pg_> ShazbotMcNasty: indeed-huff
[04:51] <ironfoot495> I fsck and when it came back I had no graphical screen??
[04:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday.. here ya go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411924/   and the card is not seen in the network manager
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> ironfoot495, you formatted your hard drive?
[04:52] <ironfoot495> no
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> oh
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> 'repair'
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> uhmm yeah
[04:52] <ironfoot495> I'd loose data if I did that?
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> well it obviously broke something
[04:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's very possible
[04:53] <ironfoot495> The mouse Icon comes up but after that I get the terminal screen.
[04:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday here is the other you wanted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411926/
[04:53] <ironfoot495> I've lost my graphical login display.
[04:54] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  it has speed booster huh
[04:54] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: right, first can you do sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[04:54] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: then do sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:55] <_pg_> is there a gui for ng-aircrack suite? terminal is scary
[04:55] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: ERROR: Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[04:55] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: okay, nevermind. Just do sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:56] <cloud> mole: Couple of the files are missing. Found a forum post saying that trying to locate them via browser pulls up a 404
[04:56] <cloud> mole: or something like that...read more and now I'm confused again
[04:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: got this
[04:56] <punto_> #ubuntu-br
[04:57] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: oops here it is again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411928/
[04:57] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: okay, its already installed. Then can you go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers. Does it find your wireless card?
[04:58] <jeeez> hi, i have a set of html files. how do i convert it to a single pdf document?
[04:58] <cloud> mole: http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=7626.0
[04:59] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: it says Broadcom STA Wireless driver: this driver is activated and currently in use
[04:59] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: right, fantastic
[05:00] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: finally can you do sudo modprobe -r ssb b43 wl
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> !info htmldoc
[05:00] <Iklos> Can anyone help me fix a broken gnome-panel/xorg display problem?
[05:00] <hiexpo> warnin g to all a lot of the usb and pcim cards now are supported for wireless n which are not supported in Linux /// we have not yet been able to come up for a solution for this yet and have been working on this problem now for 2 years the solution will be given as soon as we have an answer for the new hardware being supplied //// the best solution at this time is to got to your supplier and get model numer and the version of it
[05:00] <hiexpo> and come back home and see if it is compatable before you buy it /// i suggest if you can find older cards on  buying them
[05:00] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: it gave me this reply: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411929/
[05:01] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: yes, it sounds like you've mucked up your ndiswrapper install with hiexpo. No worries, we can take a look at it later
[05:01] <IdleOne> jeeez: python-pisa
[05:01] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: then please do sudo modprobe wl
[05:01] <IdleOne> don't ask me how to use it :/
[05:01] <Rotor_> hi am brand new to ubuntu can any one direct me to the right channel for help with plugin problem for online video???
[05:02] <ziroday> Rotor_: you're in the right place :)
[05:02] <_pg_> is anyone familiar with the "revert the gui to how it started" feature in OpenGeu?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Rotor_:  clarify the site, and exact problem
[05:02] <_pg_> I think ubuntu should have that.
[05:03] <jeeez> IdleOne: i wont ask how, but does it help me put a bunch of files together into a single pdf?
[05:03] <_pg_> Rotor_: do you have the Flash plugin installed?
[05:03] <Iklos> I'm currently sitting where the login screen in Ubuntu 9.10 is, except all I see is the brown backdrop - the login box and the panel at the bottom are both missing.  When I go to the virtual termina (ctrl + alt +f1) and try startx, it claims I already have a x session in its logs.  When I log into a recovery session, I do not have an option ot fix the Xorg server.  I can resume the boot process and start x from the shell, but a n
[05:03] <Iklos> umber of the gnome apps are all broken for some reason.  IS anyone familiar with this issue?
[05:03] <IdleOne> jeeez: apparently there is also htmldoc like Dr_Willis suggested
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> or the print to pdf tools :)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Rotor_:  speak to the channel.. not  by pming me.
[05:04] <hiexpo> i create wireless drivers so i know what i  am saying i test them daily //// in order to hack them and make them work you have to be a  hack
[05:04] <jeeez> i didn't notice that one! :\ let me check it otu
[05:05] <Guest94257> Hello
[05:05] <hiexpo> !hi
[05:05] <Guest94257> Thank you
[05:05] <meowbuntu> hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[05:05] <hiexpo> yeppers
[05:05] <cloud> NYAHAHAHA!!! DXXX I just killed off my Bluetooth and Wifi controlls!!! I was trying to delete the separator, NOT the shortcuts!!! How do I undo!??!?!
[05:06] <Guest94257> I am new to IRC, I want to connet to server eu.undernet.org server
[05:06] <bastid_raZor> !panels | cloud
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: you still there.. that command made me crash
[05:06] <cloud> bastid_raZor: Thank you DX
[05:06] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: heya, what command did?
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: that last one
[05:06] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: odd, well anyway you've restarted now correct?
[05:06] <Rotor_> ok no worries have downloaded the pluins for flashplayer thru synaptic but still cant get utube working???
[05:06] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: yepper
[05:06] <meowbuntu> hello can anyone help on that
[05:07] <Luis_> good night from merida-venezuela!
[05:07] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: and in theory you should have wireless
[05:07] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: lemme check
[05:07] <cloud> bastid_raZor: didn't work!
[05:07] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: does nothing appear in the network manager applet?
[05:07] <cloud> bastid_raZor: it didn't change anything at -all- ><
[05:07] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: no wireless... :(
[05:08] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: okay, well do you not see any wireless icon in the network manager?
[05:08] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - to find the best cards go here i will help you but you have to wanna learn http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers
[05:08] <Luis_> I need some help, my /home partition don't show any directory and file...
[05:09] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: and can you pastebin your /var/log/syslog again please
[05:09] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: if i go to system - preferences - network connections and click on the wireless tab there is nothing in there at all
[05:10] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: it says "bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied
[05:10] <SpaceCowboy40404> " when i try that
[05:10] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: hmm okay, when you go to the network applet in the top left though
[05:10] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: do you see a list of wireless networks
[05:11] <meowbuntu> hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[05:11] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: i dont have a network applet on the top left?
[05:11] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: and I'm sorry but I have to run, I'll be back in a sec
[05:11] <sirrod> k
[05:12] <tripelb> I am on in irssi - quite challenging
[05:13] <Luis_> some one can help me? I lost my /home data...
[05:13] <rm200910> Hello. Is there an application to record the sound from a separate application running on the same PC?
[05:14] <Rotor_> any one have downloaded the plugins for flashplayer thru synaptic but still cant get utube working???
[05:14] <the_dark_warrior> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Remix in my Netbook but when I resized the windows partition to create space to Ubuntu, the free space was marked with "unusable". How do I use that free space??
[05:14] <meoblast001> hello
[05:14] <swoody> Rotor_: have you removed gnash and swfdec?
[05:14] <hiexpo> 1hi
[05:14] <hiexpo> !hi
[05:14] <meoblast001> i need to replace my Intel GPU drivers on this system of mine, what is a sane way to do that?
[05:14] <aliendude3500> Hi... I'm having trouble getting Compiz to start, but I KNOW my system is more than capable of compositioning. It worked before some Lucid updates.
[05:14] <swoody> Rotor_: go into synaptic, and remove anything with reference to those two, and restart your browser :)
[05:14] <rm200910> Luis_: can you tell more? Are the files erased?
[05:15] <meoblast001> i believe there is a bug in this version of the driver that is preventing my software from running correctly
[05:15] <Rotor_> swoody will do thnx
[05:15] <swoody> Rotor_: np, let me know if that works :)
[05:16] <Luis_> Hey!
[05:16] <Luis_> my system crash! when I starup again, I dont have nothing!
[05:16] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday: im still here when you get back
[05:17] <Luis_> $df -h say: /dev/sda4             133G   98G   28G  79% /media/87a1c1ee-1af1-4cce-bd68-c33c21c43046
[05:17] <umaru> My update-notifier is starting on boot and i can confirm it's running however it is not notifying me of new updates like it should. Anyone know why this might be?
[05:17] <Rotor_> swoody will give a go have to go now later
[05:17] <tripelb> (ubuntufreezes, nay computer dies) So my other hd new install dies. I'm back on the other HD (that freezes). Put the new install back in the case I got it in. Since when I plug in the ehternet with internet I see Wireless disconnected (I may have missed the connect msg) I put in a PCI cart wtih ethernet. Oh no, now it cant boot. Goes into initranf or something close to that. Says "cant find long set of numbers", dropping into shell. (Scratches head, boots u
[05:18] <rm200910> Luis_: Is your system running from a Live CD?
[05:18] <Luis_> rm200910_: Yes Live ubuntu CD
[05:18] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - sorry it won't work they just think they can make anything work /// and i am the same way but i know that card and it's not gonna ////// with walmart just take it back and tell them its no good and tell them you will take a credit
[05:18] <tripelb> at least I know it's not flash now.
[05:19] <omahasteak> what is the best app for burning mp3 to audio cd?
[05:19] <hiexpo> brasero
[05:19] <omahasteak> i am using that right now and it has been normalizing tracks for like 12 minutes
[05:19] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo im gonna let them try to help me as i don't have anything else to do atm :P.. if it isnt working by tomorrow morning i will take it back for another that does
[05:19] <omahasteak> is there anything else
[05:21] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - exactly i mean if they can make it work kool i could not without a wrapper and i find that useless
[05:21] <rm200910> Luis_: I think your data *will* get lost if you restart with Live CD.
[05:21] <SpaceCowboy40404> i tried ubuntu about 2 years ago on a different laptop and never could get the wireless working then... ditched it and went back to windows untill now and just forked over almost 200 dollars for vista and then a month later windows 7 comes out and im not upgrading again... hence why im trying to get ubuntu going fully this time around
[05:21] <meoblast001> oh no, my driver is defective
[05:21] <Luis_> rm200910: I tried see what I have, but only show> lost+found
[05:21] <meoblast001> should i uninstall the driver in Synaptic, and recompile it with prefix /usr?
[05:22] <rm200910> Luis_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-464145.html seems to explain how to keep your settings on a USB between sessions. If that's what you want
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> SpaceCowboy40404:  last 4 laptops ive tried with ubuntu.. i was suprised the wireless worked ith no hassles.
[05:22] <rm200910> Luis_: the lost+found directory is a standard Linux thing in most file systems
[05:22] <SpaceCowboy40404> i like the idea of ubuntu cause its so different from windows.. its learning how to use a pc all over again and makes it exciting again :)
[05:23] <omahasteak> best cdripper app on ubuntu?
[05:23] <Luis_> rm200910: I'm going to read the forum.
[05:23] <SpaceCowboy40404> dr willis i want to stab myself in the eye with my wireless woes
[05:23] <je2345> whats up everyone
[05:23] <alan`> SpaceCowboy40404: do you have it installed yet?
[05:23] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  - welcome to linux :) so is that the card u need is a pcmcia
[05:24] <meowbuntu> hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[05:24] <SpaceCowboy40404> aye pcmia preferably
[05:24] <je2345> first time ever running ubuntu!
[05:24] <magger> hi gentlemens, i jsut installed ubuntu 9.10 using an alternate install cd as the bootcd wouldnt work, and the install process succesfully went trough, but now when i load it up it get me to a black screen that ask me to log in and the screen is blinking very fast, plus they key that i hit on the keyboard will only be taken into consideration at certian time of the blinking procces so there is no way for me to log in
[05:24] <Coburn> Howdy guys
[05:24] <hiexpo> ok hold on let me see what walmart has that will work
[05:24] <hiexpo> :9
[05:24] <Coburn> Freenode is a PITA, they want me to use some lame WebIRC client instead of mibbit. Anyway
[05:24] <hiexpo> :)
[05:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> if im ordering online i prefer newegg.com
[05:25] <Coburn> I got sound working on my macbook
[05:25] <Coburn> :D
[05:25] <SpaceCowboy40404> faster shipping
[05:25] <hiexpo> ok
[05:25] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: so what's the verdict, new card afterall?
[05:26] <ian45> Hello All
[05:26] <Coburn> hi
[05:26] <SpaceCowboy40404> maybee.. gonna let ziroday finish up troubleshooting when he gets back from afk... if not working by tomorrow morning then trading this one in for another or just buying another form newegg
[05:26] <geekphreak> hi all
[05:26] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: I tried man. I defer to those here with greater fu than I though :)
[05:26] <Coburn> geekphreak: sup?
[05:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> oh i appreciate all the help
[05:27] <swoody> !hello | geekphreak
[05:27] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: good luck with that
[05:27] <geekphreak> Coburn: nada
[05:27] <meowbuntu> well can someone please take a look at my problem
[05:27] <hiexpo> that thing was 45 bucks for ya
[05:27] <geekphreak> thanks swoody
[05:27] <meowbuntu> hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[05:27] <swoody> geekphreak: :)
[05:27] <SpaceCowboy40404> no was like 32$
[05:27] <Coburn> meowbuntu: Fire away, my friend!
[05:27] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: you can probably sell it to someone though.
[05:28] <meowbuntu> Coburn, i have been for awhile see ^
[05:28] <meowbuntu> thanks Coburn
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> if they wont take it back will just save it in case my wifes laptop internal goes out
[05:28] <SpaceCowboy40404> so she can have a backup
[05:28]  * Coburn will help out while playing his Wii... Well, hacking it anyway.
[05:28] <Coburn> meowbuntu: hm, okay
[05:29] <hiexpo> ok online is 45
[05:29] <SpaceCowboy40404> you back yet ziroday?
[05:29] <meowbuntu> Coburn, hi i am having this weird error with ubuntu today. i cant install anything. http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=UgbQe4bZ
[05:29] <Luis_> rm200910: I read the forum post, but their talked about use a USB to run live version, do you recomend me that?
[05:30] <ravageur> I need to reinstall my Ubuntu but I have my /home dir encrypted, I am wondering how can I unecrypt it, so that it is easier to setup during the installation?
[05:30] <Coburn> SpaceCowboy40404: Dodgy HDD I assume?
[05:30] <rodriguezjfz> iptables is the only one ubuntu firewall?
[05:30] <Coburn> meowbuntu: Okay, I can see the issue. Do you have a terminal handy?
[05:30] <magger> i need to go edit a file on my fresh install of ubuntu that will not boot, wich live cd should i download for that ?
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> rodriguezjfz, managed with ufw simplifies it though
[05:30] <meowbuntu> yes
[05:31] <meowbuntu> Coburn, fire away
[05:31] <hiexpo> hey you say thats ver one
[05:31] <SpaceCowboy40404> hiexpo: yes
[05:31] <rodriguezjfz> yes I know there are some frontend I just one to know if ther are another port filtering in Ubuntu (command line)
[05:31] <swoody> magger: any one you want, they will all work the same :)
[05:31] <hiexpo> ok
[05:31] <teguh> hello all
[05:32] <tawm> teguh: oh hai!
[05:32]  * meowbuntu waits for Coburn
[05:32] <Coburn> meowbuntu: alright, open terminal and enter gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/available
[05:32] <swoody> magger: if you're really interested in keeping a liveCD for this kind of thing, you could try Knopppix, too :)
[05:32] <teguh> i'm newbe here
[05:32] <meowbuntu> done
[05:32] <Coburn> meowbuntu: then enter your password, click okay
[05:33] <meowbuntu> Coburn, i am not to new
[05:33] <magger> thx for the tip swoody.. i have to downlaod one.. i dont like random crap knopppix it is
[05:33] <Coburn> !hello | teguh
[05:33] <tripelb> oh this client irssi does not work for me because I cant scroll back.
[05:33] <jimfive1> I am trying to get http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~lowe/keypoints/ to compile for 64-bit Ubuntu. Any one can help would be great.
[05:33] <meowbuntu> Coburn, then
[05:34]  * meowbuntu waits for Coburn again
[05:34] <Coburn> meowbuntu: Go to Edit -> Find and Replace and enter "Installed-Size;" in find box, "Installed-Size:
[05:34] <Coburn> meowbuntu: " in replace box, replace all
[05:35] <Coburn> meowbuntu: Go to Edit -> Find and Replace and enter "Installed-Size;" in find box, "Installed-Size:" in replace box, replace all*
[05:35] <meowbuntu> Coburn, thats no help there is more than 5 of them there
[05:35] <meowbuntu> ok
[05:35] <meowbuntu> hold on
[05:35] <teguh> gyache for ubuntu 64 bit can not for voice call, how to fix it
[05:35] <Coburn> meowbuntu: Choose replace all?
[05:35] <hiexpo> ver 1 is like 4 years old are u sure
[05:35] <tawm> i'd setting up a media server and my boot partition is on sda and i have two drives, sdb and sdd, that i'd like to use as the main storage point either mirrored raid1 or rsync from one to the other. does anyone have opinions on the two? I understand raid1 and some guys at work really like rsync but i still don't uderstand why they like it
[05:36] <meowbuntu> there is no find and replace in gedit
[05:36] <meowbuntu> ^ Coburn
[05:36] <hiexpo> meowbuntu,  _ hi
[05:36] <Coburn> meowbuntu: *checks*
[05:36] <meowbuntu> Coburn, its search>replace
[05:37] <Coburn> meowbuntu: It's Search -> Replace
[05:37] <Coburn> meowbuntu: too used to mac os x... hehe :P
[05:37] <Coburn> meowbuntu: thanks for correction
[05:37] <tawm> someone was talking about irssi and not being able to scroll up: its shift+pageup
[05:38] <meowbuntu> ok done now will try again thanks
[05:38] <swoody> tawm: it's just pageup for me :)
[05:38] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy ver 1 is like 4  years old are u sure could it be like ver 1. something
[05:38] <meowbuntu> Coburn, ok done now will try again thanks
[05:38] <deadlyblue> ubuntupocket guide .. who ever gave me the link for this thanks a million
[05:38] <tawm> swoody: guessing you modified the defaults or do i just have an effed up install of irssi
[05:39]  * Coburn ponders about Ubuntu on the Wii. Unfortunely, it's only got 96MB RAM...
[05:39] <Cornwall> Coburn: There's always fluxbuntu!
[05:39] <swoody> tawm: could be the keyboards? Pageup is default for me
[05:39] <acaxe> join #android
[05:39] <Cornwall> Coburn: better yet, who needs a GUI? go CLI!
[05:40] <greezmunkey> swoody: same here
[05:40] <Coburn> Cornwall: Minimal System Requirements for fluxbuntu?
[05:40] <Coburn> Cornwall: One thing- the Wii is PowerPC, not x86.
[05:40] <ubuntufreak> hate this
[05:40] <tawm> swoody: stuff doesn't like to work "normally" for me
[05:41] <Coburn> meowbuntu: how's it goin'? Does it work?
[05:41] <hiexpo> ubuntufreak, whats wrong?
[05:41] <Cornwall> Coburn: oh, how sad
[05:41] <swoody> tawm: lol, when does it ever work 'normally'? ;)
[05:41] <Cornwall> Coburn: I don't know Fluxbox's requirements, but I think they're pretty darn low
[05:41] <tawm> swoody: after i punch it in the face for about 5 hours
[05:42] <geekphreak> swoody: ubuntu works normally for me :) , i screw up sometime heh :)
[05:42] <swoody> lol
[05:42] <geekphreak> swoody:  gets the feeling you been there lol
[05:42] <swoody> geekphreak: a time or two ;)
[05:43] <Cornwall> Coburn: Also, LXDE says that the requirements are the same as windows 98, so maybe you could go with the PPC version of Lubuntu :)
[05:43] <Coburn> tawm: I suggest you stick away from Windows: It wouldn't work for ya, mate
[05:43] <magger> that nasty bug about screen flcikering after a fresh install need fix
[05:43] <swoody> geekphreak: that's half the fun, messing up your system so you can figure out how to fix it
[05:43] <tawm> does anyone have opinions on using rsync vs software raid1 for local data protection from hardware failure
[05:43] <Coburn> Cornwall: Now that's a idea!
[05:43] <airtonix> meowbuntu, i dont know how complicated you want your find replace, but there is a proper regex plugin for gedit floating around somwhere
[05:43] <Cornwall> Coburn: Just don't use Firefox or Open Office :P
[05:43] <geekphreak> swoody: but i belive in , if it aint broke, dont fix it :)
[05:43] <tawm> Coburn: sadly i support windows at work and frequently it just doesn't work
[05:43] <hiexpo> swoody,  i do it all the time on purpose
[05:44] <Coburn> :D
[05:44] <Coburn> Installation Finished on my Macbook of Ubuntu 10
[05:44] <Coburn> BRB peeps
[05:44] <airtonix> Cornwall, its not so clear cut like that, for example : the intrusion detection program : arpwatch will garunteed eat 100% of your cpu... and its a tiny program in file size.
[05:44] <meowbuntu> Coburn, there was another similar error fixed that now it seems to be installing fine
[05:44] <magger> hey jsut a lil question there , can you guyz get wireless internet adaptor to work on ubuntu yet ? i looked into it a few month ago and couldnt figure it out
[05:44] <je2345> is some1 able to direct me on how to access music on my hard drive but with windows 7
[05:45] <underdev> Dr_Willis: are you there?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  hmm? I pop in and out all day
[05:45] <airtonix> je2345, ask this on #windows
[05:45] <je2345> m wireless worked perfect right after ubuntu booted up
[05:45] <tawm> magger: you will have to be more specific
[05:45] <Cornwall> airtonix: I'm sure his processor is more than 500 Mhz...
[05:45] <underdev> You've helped me many times, maybe i can return a favor.  Have you ever ran into the plop boot manager?
[05:45] <airtonix> Cornwall, my desktop is a core duo 2.3ghz and arpwatch brings it to its knees
[05:45] <hiexpo> magger,  what card?
[05:46] <tawm> magger: lots of them work. have you checked to see if your specific hardware is supported by ubuntu?
[05:46] <magger> well.. by default it was not supported
[05:46] <magger> would be plug and play in backtrack tho
[05:46] <Cornwall> airtonix: Who said he's even going to use it?
[05:46] <magger> long time isnce i looked into it
[05:46] <Cornwall> airtonix: I've run Xubuntu just fine on old PPCs under 1 Ghz
[05:46] <W43372> I can't get Ubuntu to mount my windows network.
[05:46] <magger> i cant recall my card specifics info
[05:46] <Cornwall> And Lubuntu is even less intensive
[05:47] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy can u guys us a usb card
[05:47] <web5|org|ua> fasttrak 378 controller + ubuntu (need driver) !
[05:47] <teguh> my xubuntu is slowly, cpu look sleep, how to increase speed..?
[05:47] <aliciapg> does anyone know how to limit file size with mencoder?
[05:47] <magger> well time to smoke up while that other live cd is downlaoding.. been the worst ubuntu installation night in history im telling you
[05:47] <underdev> Dr_Willis: the PLoP boot loader will find any generic bootable USB drive and boot from it if the computers BIOS doesn't support booting from USB
[05:47] <airtonix> Cornwall, think you missed the point
[05:48] <magger> !ot
[05:48] <underdev> Dr_Willis: regardless of distro
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  check the mencoder faq/docs - i recall some option to reencode a video to a set size  like 700mb. but i forget the details.
[05:48] <Cornwall> airtonix: He can't run super intensive programs. Is that it? I'm not getting you
[05:48] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: did that, example doesn't work for me
[05:48] <airtonix> Cornwall, no, you wont be able to tell if a program is going to eat your cpu until you try it.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i recall it only worked for some specific codecs/options also. ive never r4eally tried it. I recall some GUI front ends having the option also.,
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  mencoder forums may have some other examples also.
[05:49] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: nope only seems to have one
[05:49] <imp|cat> avidemux can encode to a set size with certain codecs and two pass encoding
[05:49] <Cornwall> airtonix: You're not making sense. Okay, so you can't. Does that mean I shouldn't try any programs because I'm on a poor Hyperthreading processor? I'm not true dual-core, maybe I can't handle it!
[05:50] <SpaceCowboy40404> ziroday is awesome
[05:50] <Cornwall> airtonix: again: I ran Xubuntu just fine on an ibook 700 Mhz PPC
[05:50] <SpaceCowboy40404> im on  my wireless now'
[05:50] <airtonix> Cornwall, dont get upset. im saying you dont judge a book by its cover.
[05:50] <ziroday> SpaceCowboy40404: hehe, turns out the issue was really easy to fix :)
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i seem to recall like imp|cat  said also. it needs 2 pass encoding.  and only with specific codecs.   Period. Because you have some monitoring program that he's not going to use
[05:51] <SpaceCowboy40404> yepper on wirelss as we speak
[05:51] <aliciapg> imp|cat: well how would i do that with avidemux? i couldn't find a way to set that
[05:51] <tawm> magger: i think you could boot a live cd and with the wifi card plugged in do a ifconfig and that would show you what network adapters are on and what there status is
[05:51] <underdev> Is it normal that making a live USB drive takes a long time?  Or is a sandisk cruizer 8g a slow USB stick?
[05:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> apperantl;y you have to left click the network manager icon in the upper right and actually connect to the ssid
[05:52] <Cornwall> underdev: It usually take 5 minutes max for me
[05:52] <je2345> i have to go to #windows to ask a question about music on windows but want to access while using Ubuntu
[05:52] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: dude! :)
[05:52] <hiexpo> how and what ver of card?
[05:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> LOL
[05:52] <Cornwall> underdev: and I have some pretty clunky hardware
[05:52] <greezmunkey> heh
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  the creation of a 'save file' can take a long time - depeing on the size you set.
[05:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> same one .. version 1
[05:52] <SpaceCowboy40404> i think
[05:52] <underdev> Cornwall: this is a phenom iix4- rats!!!
[05:52] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: there it is, and you were ready to give up!
[05:52] <hiexpo> it cant be ver was 2004
[05:52] <swoody> je2345: you shouldn't have any problems accessing a Windows partition from Ubuntu. Is it not working for you?
[05:53] <imp|cat> aliciapg, let me start avidemux and we'll see... Just a moment.
[05:53] <underdev> Dr_Willis: okay, it's 4 gigs
[05:53] <airtonix> SpaceCowboy40404 , there is an option within the settings for that SSID to allow it to auto connect (right under the SSID name you give it at the top)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis>  thats whats taking so long. its making an empty 4gb file.
[05:53] <SpaceCowboy40404> cya later vista and i'm never buying windows 7 or the next new flavor of each damn month
[05:53] <Cornwall> underdev: yikes :)
[05:53] <Cornwall> underdev: have you tried unetbootin? that's a pretty neat program in the repos
[05:53] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  i am so happy 4 u but ver 1 was 4 years ago
[05:54] <SpaceCowboy40404> i appreciate everyones help.... greezymonkey, hiexpo. and ziroday
[05:54] <underdev> Cornwall: yeah, but i kept getting a problem that FD0 wasn't detected
[05:54] <underdev> Cornwall: at your suggestion i used it :)
[05:54] <Cornwall> underdev: at my suggestion? Do I have an alternate form?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> unetbootin does not support the creation of a perisstant save file. (yet)
[05:55]  * aliciapg waits for imp|cat
[05:55] <SpaceCowboy40404> i got version one from the commands greezymonkey had me try.... when i tried to use ndis i used the drivers form the install cd for the card and that didnt work either
[05:55] <underdev> Cornwall: sorry, someone else had suggested it.  i thought it was you :)
[05:55] <Cornwall> Dr_Willis: Yeah, but It's never not worked for me :D
[05:55] <SpaceCowboy40404> when i switched back to the propriatry drivers and then actually connected to the ssid thats when it worked
[05:55] <Cornwall> underdev: No worries :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Cornwall:  ive had issues with Unetbootin and the setting up of syslinux at times.  Perhaps some day it will switch to grub2
[05:56] <airtonix> SpaceCowboy40404, for ndiswrapper to work properly you need to blacklist the other drivers ubuntu might use for your wifi card then reboot (assuming you already installed the ndis drivers)
[05:56] <greezmunkey> hiexpo: it shows up as v1, maybe theres a flash upgrade for the card itself. Matters not at this point, it's working :)
[05:56] <Cornwall> Dr_Willis: How sad. Well, I've always had good basic usage experience
[05:56] <SpaceCowboy40404> again thanks for a million for all the help greezymunkey, hiexpo and ziroday.. you guys rock... goin to watch spartacus blood and sand with the wife now as she is nagging
[05:57] <hiexpo> greezmunkey,  gotta be a wrapper
[05:57] <greezmunkey> SpaceCowboy40404: nice :)
[05:57] <imp|cat> Aliciapg, openthe video in avidemux and then select codec(on the left, in the drop down menu, ie MPEG4 ASP Xvid), the you can set the properties. In the xvid configuration, main tab, set encoding type to "two pass -video size" and target video size MB to whatever you want
[05:57] <hiexpo> SpaceCowboy40404,  is it working on a wrapper?
[05:58] <hiexpo> kool
[05:58] <jimfive2> on ubuntu live cd how to copy something to lib
[05:58] <jimfive2> ?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i think avidemux has an option to show the command line its using. :) thats one way to learn all the options
[05:58] <Gent> uhhh
[05:58] <Gent> is there any way in lucid to change the menus/toolbars to not show icons?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> jimfive2:  copying what exactly?
[05:58] <Cornwall> man, first pidgin crash in forever
[05:58] <ziroday> Gent: #ubuntu+1 :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Gent:  that used to be a gnome option. No idea if its still there or not.
[05:59] <dim3000> anyone now a fix for the appeareance settings freeze on 10.04
[05:59] <hiexpo> greezmunkey,  yes but i wanna know i wite drivers
[05:59] <gerryxiao> hello
[05:59] <Gent> yeah, it used to be in menus & toolbars under system prefs
[05:59] <gerryxiao> how to know my ubuntu is lucid beta 1 or beta 2?
[05:59] <aliciapg> thank you imp|cat :D
[05:59] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: where is that?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  check its settings/options.  most all of these front ends can show the command line they are using.
[06:00] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | gerryxiao
[06:00] <jimfive2> I need to copy libANN_char.so to my lib folder on the livecd, but don't know how.
[06:00] <gerryxiao> ok
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> jimfive2:  mount the  installed system and use  'sudo cp whatever /media/yourmountpoint/lib/whatever   (using the proper paths)
[06:00] <pshr> Hello
[06:00] <pshr> !hello
[06:01] <pshr> !hi
[06:01] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: hmm...i don't see anything...
[06:01] <psycho_oreos> !in | pshr
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  you could always let ot start converting then use 'ps ax' to see what commands its running
[06:04] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: yeah i don't seen anything there either >-<
[06:04] <afed> someone tell me why nautilus might want to allocate a gigabyte of memory (and not be able to do it and therefore not start)
[06:05] <afed> running 9.04 livecd, 1 gig ram, no swap
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i also use winff a lot.  it has similer features.. and thers 'handbrake'
[06:05] <afed> should work but i have a black desktop and no file management
[06:06] <hiexpo> ziroday,  how'd ya get him going?
[06:07] <Curly_Q> Afed check this URL out:    http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-198998.html
[06:07] <imp|cat> afed: first thing I would do is check the consistency of the liveCD, one of the boot options can do it for you
[06:07] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: *nods* i have those too but really i just wanted a video i had to be a certain size >-< i kind of wanted to learn how in mencoder but no one seems to know how to use it
[06:08] <afed> Curly_Q, lol @ that
[06:08] <afed> "hey guys i just discovered this awesome command"
[06:08] <Curly_Q> Your welcome.
[06:09] <afed> imp|cat, thx, doing that
[06:09] <afed> just burned the cd, it is suspect
[06:09] <magger> wath is the lightest to download and most efficient live cd should i useif i just want to edit a file on a hard drive
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:   proper codecs and options for 2 pass. If avidemux can do it.. then its doing it. :) somehow..
[06:09] <magger> i just dont wana wait 30 min download if a 100 med distro do it as good
[06:09] <hiexpo> :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  mencoder inputfile.mpg -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=-800000  -o output.avi
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i recall the 'trick' is the negative bitrate.
[06:11] <jeeves> how can I fix a broken package system?  I've tried "apt-get update -f"
[06:11] <tawm> jeeves: what's broken about it?
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> jeeves, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:11] <afed> what is it with ubuntu users wanting to copy and paste commands into their terminal without understanding anything
[06:12] <Sa[i]nT> Is there an app that provides like a Vault where i can keep files and it be encrypted?
[06:12] <jeeves> ZykoticK9, I've tried that already
[06:12] <magger> is there a way to boot using a specific video driver?
[06:12] <Curly_Q> Afed because most everyone here are Windows converts.
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> jeeves, ok - it was just the order was backwards in your post
[06:13] <afed> try "sudo rm -rf /"
[06:13] <geekphreak> Curly_Q: howdy :)
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> !danger
[06:13] <Curly_Q> Greets to GeekPhreak.   :)
[06:13] <Sa[i]nT> afed, Ouch man.
[06:13] <geekphreak> plz do not try that command
[06:13] <brianherman1> meowbuntu:can you install packages from the command line?
[06:13] <greezmunkey> afed: that will get you bounced
[06:13] <afed> haha you need a macro for that
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, it will if an Op notices
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  that example i just pasted seems to work for me.
[06:13] <Curly_Q> Magger, why would anyone want to boot with a specific video driver?
[06:14] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: but i was trying with x264....
[06:14] <afed> i expose a major flaw in the way your entire user base does things and you threaten to ban me?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  it may only work with SPECIFIC codecs.. ive no real idea if it can work with x264 or not.
[06:14] <jeeves> tawm, "subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2"
[06:14] <Curly_Q> Booting is booting. Drivers are for video and not for booting.
[06:15] <Curly_Q> Drivers load up during booting process.
[06:15] <magger> i installed a fresh ubuntu with the alternate cd and there is something i need to edit so it use a different video driver for the future
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> aliciapg:  i find i have to covnert things away from x264  for my netbook to handle them :) or reduce the res, or other cutbacks..  it cant quite handle full HD video
[06:15] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: *nods* i just wanted to try to keep the quality
[06:16] <greezmunkey> afed: I would venture to guess that you've pasted a command or two in your day as well. Everyone learns by doing.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> changeign size will proberly change quality also.. somthing has to give. :)
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> aliciapg, if you are interested in MP4 with x264 I'd highly recommend you check out Handbrake, it isn't in the repo but a DEB is available from their site
[06:16] <afed> for certain definitions of doing
[06:16] <Curly_Q> Booting starts with the MBR then the top level software or OS.
[06:17] <magger> Curly_Q:  i neet to go into etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from nvidia to nv
[06:17] <afed> fucking up your package manager and figuring out how to fix it by research and hard work is "doing"
[06:17] <tawm> jeeves: google says to try "apt-get clean" i'm not entirely sure what "clean" does tho
[06:17] <geekphreak> afed:  watch language plz
[06:17] <afed> getting bailed out by a web page is not
[06:17] <aliciapg> ZykoticK9: I actually already have handbrake
[06:17] <jeeves> tawm, thanks, that's the one I needed
[06:17] <afed> geekphreak, sorry english is not my first language
[06:18] <Curly_Q> Magger do a Google on that.
[06:18] <magger> but as i cannot boot it its pretty hard.. i will get a live cd that work  and get it done
[06:18] <tawm> jeeves: :D i'm helping
[06:19] <jeeves> tawm, thanks!
[06:19] <Curly_Q> Magger check this link:     http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=nvidia+to+nv+change&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=bcdf8cbbf06dc4f
[06:19] <ja660k> hey guys, is there a way.. given a username to find theyre default shell?
[06:19] <afed> yes, ja660k, consider where that setting is stored
[06:20] <tawm> afed: people have to learn somewhere. for people comming from other non *nix oses it can be like jumping in the deep end
[06:20] <ja660k> im guessing in $shell variable?
[06:20] <afed> just grep and cut /etc/passwd
[06:20] <Curly_Q> By the way guys and gals, offer a shred of appreciation to all of the good folks here giving their kind and free assistence.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ja660k:  or -->  grep $USER /etc/passwd
[06:20] <aliciapg> Dr_Willis: yeah, i guess that's why i couldn't find it maybe or i'm looking in all the wrong places >-<
[06:20] <afed> ^ see, i give him the pieces and let him learn to put them together
[06:20] <afed> Dr_Willis does his work for him
[06:21] <ja660k> thanks Dr_Willis and afed
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> ja660k:  $SHELL would be the current shell.. not the default.
[06:21] <ja660k> Dr_Willis, i think that'll do
[06:21] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis good to see you again today. I hope all is well with you.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  yep. got the weekend off.
[06:22] <Curly_Q> Yeah!  My wife is asleep and I am free to play with the computer.   :)
[06:22] <tawm> is there an advantage to using rsync to backup a hard drive over raid 1?
[06:23] <lokvendra> join
[06:23] <Lostinspace_46_> Where do I change the increment of the volume control?
[06:24] <tawm> Lostinspace_46_: cli or gui?
[06:24] <Curly_Q> Tawm  RAID arrays is nice and not so nice. If you need to backup your array, then, do it before it crashes. If in the event of a failure, you can use data recovery software to recover the image.
[06:24] <bikcmp> lokvendra: Huh?
[06:24] <Baram> how can I fix this error: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:24] <Lostinspace_46_> Tamw gui
[06:25] <tawm> should be a speaker icon in the top right (by default) click it to bring up a slider
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Lostinspace_46_:  i saw some gnome setting for that when i was exploreing th gconf_editor the other day
[06:25] <Lostinspace_46_> tawm I need to increment that slider
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Lostinspace_46_:  at least i think it was the setting that did that.
[06:25] <Captain_Long> Ziroday: YOU THERE?
[06:26] <tawm> Lostinspace_46_: ah my apologies i missunderstood the question
[06:26] <greezmunkey> Baram: try "locate libglib-2.0.so.0" minus quotes to see if it is on your system
[06:26] <Lostinspace_46_> tawm NP
[06:26] <Captain_Long> That was not meant to be caps lock.
[06:26] <Curly_Q> But Tawm, the most important thing to remember is DO NOT WAIT to backup anything you install or depend upon as a Systems Administrator. Bad mistake.
[06:27] <Baram> greezmunkey yeah, it's there, in /lib where one would expect it to be
[06:27] <greezmunkey> Baram: what generated the eror?
[06:27] <tawm> Curly_Q: no data is in danger. its a little side project. i'm trying to learn different techniques and i was wondering which to push for
[06:27] <Baram> greezmunkey a compiler
[06:27] <Lostinspace_46_> I think I have the wrong xchat loaded
[06:28] <Baram> greezmunkey it worked before my HD died, recovered most of the system, but now this part won't work
[06:28] <tawm> Curly_Q: its a little media server that i'll hook up to my tv
[06:28] <In_n_Out> Hello everybody...Downloaded ubuntu 9.10 on my open suse desktop. I want to copy the ISO Image on a USB. Is there any link available that I can read and learn
[06:28] <greezmunkey> Baram: missing a symlink somewhere maybe?
[06:28] <Captain_Long> Hmm. Maybe you guys can help?
[06:28] <studentz> baram which one gnu utils or do you have something different?
[06:28] <Curly_Q> My only good advice to you Tawm is to create an IMAGE file of your hard drive and if you do something stupid or just an honest mistake, you have all of the data.
[06:29] <kn100> How do I compile from source
[06:29] <Baram> greezmunkey it's a symlink like it should be, and the file it points to is there...
[06:29] <Lostinspace_46_> hmm this xchat is in the repos, but I want the old one
[06:29] <In_n_Out> I am new to this and use my desktop only for mails & openoffice
[06:29] <Captain_Long> Following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx with ziroday's assistance, I have managed to get the wireless network to acknowledge its own existencde. To all appearances, I am connected, with a good handful of bars. Yet, I cannot load any web page.
[06:30] <kn100> ping me
[06:30] <greezmunkey> Baram: Maybe an error in the makefile?
[06:30] <Baram> studentz it's a compiler for the language my company made (their own language) but it uses gcc for it's core, build-essentials should be all I need...
[06:30] <zmjblokh> kn100: pong
[06:30] <Baram> greezmunkey makefie hasn't changed in years
[06:30] <Lostinspace_46_> tawm Rewestersys?
[06:30] <Lostinspace_46_> Remastersys
[06:30] <Baram> greezmunkey and works fine on the live servers, just not on my home dev server
[06:30] <Curly_Q> Just make BACKUPS BEFORE you make changes.
[06:31] <greezmunkey> Baram: doesn'
[06:31] <studentz> kn100 open file Title "readme" usually ./configure  next  make finally  sudo   makeinstall
[06:31] <greezmunkey> Baram: does that process generate a logfile? I'm sure you thought of that/
[06:32] <kn100> studentz, that simple?
[06:32] <Curly_Q> Do I have an AMEN on that?
[06:32] <kn100> studentz, I mean the kernel
[06:32] <tawm> Lostinspace_46_ / Curly_Q: just looking to protect media files from hardware failure. I have the system files backed up.
[06:32] <Baram> greezmunkey that error is what's in the log
[06:32] <Lostinspace_46_> tawm Oh..ok
[06:32] <Lostinspace_46_> where do I get the old xchat?
[06:33] <Captain_Long> Nothing?
[06:33] <Curly_Q> Tawm that is the best thing you could have done. Always backup. Even if it is a chmod or anything.
[06:34] <tawm> do either of you know how taxing a software raid 1 is on a system? (core 2 duo ~3ghz)
[06:35] <greezmunkey> Baram: does the compiler sucessfully locate other libraries?
[06:35] <Baram> greezmunkey I think I know what it is... i knew there was something I needed but forgot (been years since I had to rebuild), think it's ia32-libs that's missing
[06:35] <tawm> the most taxing thing the system is gonna do is watch hd media content
[06:35] <Baram> gonna try once these updates are done
[06:36] <studentz> For the kernel I used do it with Arch Linux they have a very nice guide, I never try with Ubuntu. Good luck :)
[06:36] <greezmunkey> Baram: you know more about it than I :) I still paste commands from here!
[06:36] <Curly_Q> Tawm have you tried VLC video player?
[06:36] <greezmunkey> heh
[06:37] <tawm> Curly_Q: yeah i have vlc and boxee setup on the box
[06:37] <Baram> greezmunkey after spending a week trying to recover a failed HD (never again will I buy WD) my brain is about shot :P
[06:37] <Curly_Q> Tawm what is your issue then?
[06:37] <Baram> greezmunkey turns out ddrescue on a 2TB drive takes a little while
[06:37] <tawm> just trying to figure out the best way to keep the media files safe from a hard drive failure
[06:37] <greezmunkey> Baram: I would think so!
[06:38] <Baram> 3000kB/s
[06:38] <randomusr_> hello
[06:38] <greezmunkey> Baram: I assume that was a sata drive that failed.
[06:38] <randomusr_> what's a decent chat program?
[06:38] <Curly_Q> Baram any Tera Byte drive will take a long time without sufficient RAM.
[06:38] <Baram> greezmunkey yeah, the WD 2TB caviar green, 63days after I bought it
[06:38] <randomusr_> that cover msn and yahoo
[06:38] <Curly_Q> Also the BIOS settings or compatibility.
[06:39] <greezmunkey> Baram: I've heard similar horror stories, esp the 1.5TB drives.
[06:39] <Baram> yeah, I should have thought of a temporary increase in RAM... oh well, it's basically done now
[06:39] <switch10_> I just had a WD green fail on me too, only 1 month old...
[06:39] <Baram> my samsung spinpoint F1's have been running non-stop for almost a year and still in perfect condition, I'm sticking with samsung from now on :P
[06:39] <tawm> from what i've seen at work any drive above 1tb has a pretty high failure rate
[06:39] <W43372> I can't get Ubuntu to mount my windows network.
[06:39] <tawm> even the 1tbs are pretty bad
[06:39] <greezmunkey> W43372: where did you go?
[06:40] <Curly_Q> Greezmonkey I have a 1.5 TB HD and it works just fine with Windows but it hangs and crashes with a Windows Search engine. That is stupid but I know why, it is the buffer overflow.
[06:40] <Baram> I haven't had issues with samsung discs, and since I live in Korea I can get excellent service if I do have a problem
[06:40] <Curly_Q> Baram try increasing your SWAP file or memory.
[06:41] <greezmunkey> Curly_Q: I was jazzed to buy a couple until I started hearing the foobar about them.
[06:41] <switch10_> W43372:  are you trying to mount a windows partition?
[06:41] <Baram> curly_q it's done now, or done enough that I could recover 90% of what was lost since the last backup, just had to reinstall the OS since some of the system files got corrupted
[06:41] <Curly_Q> With Windows it is called:   "Contiguous Memory" which is the same as SWAP.
[06:41] <switch10_> W43372: or a network drive?
[06:41] <W43372> switch10 no, I'm trying to access the shared folder on my windows box. it throws up the error 'failed to revtrieve share list from server when I click on the workgroup
[06:42] <W43372> greezmunkey, check your PM
[06:43] <Baram> greezmunkey yup, that was it, forgot to put in ia32-libs
[06:43] <Curly_Q> Baram please listen to me. You do not have to re-install any OS at all. All you need to do is replace the IMAGE component of the disk. That is quick and simple.
[06:44] <Baram> curly_q good to know, but I already did it :P
[06:45] <Curly_Q> Baram if you did it then you would not be asking questions here. Sorry to say that.
[06:46] <Curly_Q> Baram I work as a Scientist collecting not only data but also saving hard drives that fail and recouping the data on them.
[06:46] <AK> I am getting no sound after adding options snd-hda-intel model=auto in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file
[06:47] <Baram> curly_q wish you were around a few days ago when it died, was a learning process for me :P
[06:47] <AK>  I am getting no sound after adding options snd-hda-intel model=auto in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file
[06:47] <greezmunkey> Baram: you da man
[06:47] <Curly_Q> Data is Data. It is a magnetic media issue and not a Linux or Unix or Windows issue. It is a material hard drive issue.
[06:48] <Curly_Q> Baram, I can recover your data from your hard drive.
[06:48] <AK>  I am getting no sound after adding options snd-hda-intel model=auto in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file at my dell machine
[06:48] <AK> could you please help me out
[06:49] <Baram> curly_q what do you use for recovery?  I tried a few things and only ddrescue did much of anything for me
[06:49] <Curly_Q> DDrescue is OK but there are other means to do this.
[06:50] <shayne> i have a problem with ubuntu that it wont let me sign in as su
[06:50] <Curly_Q> I lose money when I give away my Technical Secrets.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> shayne:  you use 'sudo' not 'su'
[06:51] <shayne> Dr_Willis: ive tried all the superuser or whatever you call it usernames.
[06:51] <zwalker_huj> :-) sudo su
[06:51] <Curly_Q> Especially when a sum of $10,000.00 data recover for a hard drive is what I make.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> shayne:  only the first initially made user has 'sudo rights'
[06:52] <shayne> Dr_Willis: i am that user and it still wont let me.
[06:53] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, you mean replacing the logic board on a fried disk or moving the platters to a new drive....there are no secrets.
[06:53] <Curly_Q> I don't work for free. I earned my rights to charge big bucks to recover data.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> shayne:  then you broke somthing.. or are doing somthing wrong.
[06:53] <sonu> hye i need to adjust my screen resolution. could you please tell me command to lauch the display manager, as i can't since my menu laucher is get hidden behind the screen visible area
[06:53] <thunderbolt> So, I accidentally ran grub-install against a partition instead of the entire device. It seems to have not done anything (erroring out with a "can't read image file...", forgot the exact phrase) Is there any way to make sure it didn't overwrite anything on the desk, or if it did, to revert that?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  you got a dust free clean room in the basement. :)
[06:53] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, this is a *free* support channel.
[06:54] <Curly_Q> Crypt-0 that is a very good question. I congratulate you on that question.  Okay, sounds good. Thank you!
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> shayne:  so much for anyone else trying to help you i imagine ... goodbye
[06:54] <chatrat> ciao a tutti
[06:55] <histo> thunderbolt: wait did you install it to the boot parition?
[06:55] <Lostinspace_46> I've looked around, and I can't find where to set the increments for my volume control.
[06:55] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, furthermore the same convention that uses ATA wipe can also recover bad sectors
[06:55] <histo> Lostinspace_46: I just did that let me think
[06:56] <Lostinspace_46> histo, Take your time.
[06:56] <studentz> sonu gnome-display-properties
[06:56] <histo> Lostinspace_46: just trying to remember are you using gnomes volume control?
[06:56] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis That is a very good question. I will share with you a tip of knowledge. You can get an old 50 or 100 gallon fish tank and cut holes in the plastic walls. Apoxy rubber gloves to it and put a HEPA FILTER to the box and you have a CLEAN ROOM. From that bit of info, you are golden. :)
[06:56] <thunderbolt> histo: I did afterwards, but that was to fix some Windows software killing the old grub2 stuff in the MBR.
[06:57] <Lostinspace_46> histo, You mean the slider?
[06:57] <chatrat> list
[06:57] <histo> Lostinspace_46: yes in gnome your not running a different volume control or xubuntu or anythign right?
[06:58] <Lostinspace_46> histo, Nope just normal slider.
[06:58] <histo> Lostinspace_46: using gconf apps/gnome_settings_daemon/volume_step
[06:58] <crypt-0> heh i know someone who used an old printer as a clean room :)
[06:58] <histo> Lostinspace_46: gconf-editor
[06:58] <Curly_Q> Crypt-0 you are funny.   :)
[06:59] <Lostinspace_46> histo, Thank you, I will go try tthat.
[06:59] <topland> how to set wifi on ubuntu
[06:59] <histo> Lostinspace_46: have you used gconf-editor before?
[06:59] <histo> topland: use the network manager up by the clock
[06:59] <Lostinspace_46> histo, No.
[06:59] <oliver_> Hi, I was in the middle of downloading frostwire when my computer froze. Now I can not use my synoptic manager.
[06:59] <oliver_> Can anyone help?
[07:00] <histo> Lostinspace_46: hit alt+f2 and type in gconf-editor then navigate to apps > gnome settings daemon  you will see volume step ont he right default is 6 or 9 i believe.
[07:00] <Curly_Q> Oliver check first your RAM settings and your cache settings.
[07:00] <histo> oliver_: what error do you get with synaptic?
[07:00] <topland> first i was using windos7 my wifi is working on it but now i change to ubuntu and wifi is stop
[07:00] <oliver_> Ok one sec and I will tell you the error message.
[07:00] <Lostinspace_46> histo, Thank you kindly, sir.  Muchly appreciated!
[07:01] <histo> topland: what type of wifi card do you ahve?
[07:01] <histo> Lostinspace_46: np
[07:01] <Curly_Q> Topland use apt-get update and see if that works.
[07:01] <oliver_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:01] <oliver_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[07:01] <topland> i got atheros wifi card
[07:01] <oliver_> That's what it says
[07:01] <histo> oliver_: open a terminal and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:01] <oliver_> Ok I will try that one sec
[07:01] <Curly_Q> Atheros is a very good CARD.
[07:02] <Curly_Q> Topland is your C
[07:02] <hosomaki> good morning
[07:02] <histo> topland: Do you know what chipset your wifi card uses?
[07:02] <aetaric> hey, i added a scsi drive to my live ubuntu box. it should show up as sdc in /dev yet i don't see it. do i need to reboot for it to showup? or can i just run the udev scripts in /etc/init.d ?
[07:02] <Curly_Q> Topland is your Atheros card a PCMCIA card?
[07:02] <histo> aetaric: did you mount the drive?
[07:03] <histo> !fstab | aetaric
[07:03] <aetaric> histo: ... the drive isn't in /dev fstab won't help me.
[07:03] <histo> Curly_Q: oh he already said what type of card?
[07:03] <ryanc_> Hey, I'm on the Lucid beta, and I installed xfce4, how do I log in to that instead of gnome/
[07:03] <oliver_> Ok thank you it worked now I have a broken package on my computer and am trying to locate it.
[07:03] <aetaric> ryanc_: #ubuntu+1
[07:03] <histo> topland: System > administration > hardware drivers
[07:03] <Curly_Q> Histo sorry I didnt see it when I was talking with someone else.
[07:04] <histo> !lucid > ryanc_
[07:04] <ZenMasta_> need some help installing pdo and pdo_mysql i get a message sh: phpsize not found
[07:04] <ryanc_> okay
[07:04] <histo> !info pdo
[07:05] <Curly_Q> Those folks make the ORINOCO golden PCMCIA card. I have one here. It cost about $300.00 then. It has a very powerful RF signal.
[07:05] <ZenMasta_> histo if that was directed at me, I don't know what I'm supposed to do
[07:05] <histo> ZenMasta_: I was just trying to figure otu what pdo is and if its availible in the repos
[07:06] <ZenMasta_> oh, it has something to do with web servers
[07:06] <ZenMasta_> I've been trying to follow various guides on the web and some mention getting the error, but no solution
[07:06] <histo> ZenMasta_: I gathered that do you have a website or how are you trying to install it?
[07:06] <ZenMasta_> sudo pecl install pdo
[07:07] <aetaric> ZenMasta_: server support is in #ubuntu-server
[07:07] <ZenMasta_> thanks I'll try that
[07:07] <histo> ZenMasta_: hold up i'm checking something
[07:07] <ZenMasta_> k
[07:07] <histo> aetaric: not really a server question he's just trying to install a package.
[07:08] <ZenMasta_> brb 1 min
[07:09] <themec> could somebody tell me how i would change my hosts file in ubuntu?
[07:09] <Lostinspace_46> histo, Yes! Much better. Thanks again.
[07:09] <Curly_Q> Using a PCMCIA card on a laptop is great.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> themec:  its a text file.. edit it as root.. MAKE A BACKUP
[07:09] <aetaric> histo: the package is "server" related and therefore belongs in #ubuntu-server
[07:09] <histo> ZenMasta_: when did you get the error installing pdo or pdo_mysql?
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> themec, one option would be to run "gksu gedit /etc/hosts"
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> themec, but Dr_Willis backup suggestion is good council
[07:10] <histo> aetaric: true that I guess
[07:10] <ZenMasta_> hiso haven't tried pdo_mysql yet so just pdo
[07:11] <ZenMasta_> I just assumed I should install in sequence
[07:11] <histo> ZenMasta_: I'm in #ubuntu-server to help you further
[07:11] <ZenMasta_> ok
[07:13] <cwp> hello
[07:14] <magger> how can i find and mount a harddrive from a live cd in a shell?
[07:14] <cwp> ???
[07:14] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis most of the problems here on this channel has to do with making BACKUPS. Most people ask why and how to do it.
[07:15] <voss749> what sort of shell?
[07:15] <cwp> ?
[07:15] <cwp> ?
[07:15] <cwp> ?
[07:15] <FloodBot3> cwp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <magger> just a terminal in knnopix
[07:15] <traz1> evolution is asking for a keyring password when I send mail, what does this mean?
[07:16] <cwp> what is that
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  dont forget to backup your backups.. :)
[07:16] <cwp> -q
[07:16] <sine_> how do i combine binary files please i.e me1.mp3+me2.mp3
[07:16] <sine_> is it cat
[07:16] <kermit> sine_: mp3wrap
[07:16] <sine_> no i can do it like binary join
[07:16] <kermit> sine_: but cat will work for real mp3 files.. mp3wrap is designed to work with tagged ones.
[07:17] <sine_> dos was cp /b *.mp3
[07:17] <Church> you can with cat. but be careful if file format isn't exactly made for binary concatenation and has clearly marked beginning/end
[07:17] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis, guess what, I do backup my backups. There is an old Computer Proverb: "Happy are those who save"  After the Bible Beatitudes Happy are those who are saved.    :)
[07:18] <ZenMasta_> any idea what would cause wireless networks to keep dropping?
[07:18] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta      Signal Strength and Encryption.
[07:18] <crypt-0> good lord, i actually read everything Curly_Q said...then i realized there was /IGNORE
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  use the 'cat' command
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  cat foo bar > foobar
[07:18] <voss749> In linux systems you back up documents photos and videos, music etc everything else is pretty much reinstallable
[07:19] <ZenMasta_> Curly_Q yeah you'd think except I'm literally 2 feet from the router.... and when I boot to windows it never drops
[07:19] <sine_> it does not delete the source files does it ?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> sine_:  bash basics..  no.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> cat foo > bar    copies foo to bar
[07:19] <banshee_> Howcome it seems that my video settings don't save? (Using Nvidia X Server Settings)
[07:19] <paven> traz1: i would asume thats the ubuntu gnome key ring. it a locker for your passwords, so that a person can't sitt down at you computer and use you pasword protected services.
[07:19] <voss749> zenmasta what kind of nic?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> banshee_:  you may need to run the nvidia-settings tool as root via gksudo nvidia-settings
[07:20] <ZenMasta_> integrated probably intel
[07:20] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta, are you doing a:  http://www.192.168.*.*       ?
[07:20] <ZenMasta_> yeah just a regular home lan
[07:20] <traz1> is the gnome keyring pasword the same as my user password?
[07:20] <Curly_Q> I see.
[07:20] <histo> traz1: yes
[07:21] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta do you have physical access to the router?
[07:21] <ZenMasta_> yeah i'm connecte physically right now
[07:22] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta Just a worning but if you follow this instruction, you may lose all settings. But, you can either re-boot or  re-fresh the BIOS of the router box.
[07:22] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, i use TELNET to get into my router sometimes OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007
[07:22] <ZenMasta_> Curly_Q yeah I'll pass I mostly use windows so not worth the hassle :/
[07:23] <Curly_Q> ZenMaster so what you are saying is you are doing this remotely?
[07:24] <ZenMasta_> no i dual boot my laptop
[07:24] <Curly_Q> ZenMaster if you have physical access to the box you have full control over it.
[07:24] <banshee_> When I click "Save to X Configuration file" it says, Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! How do I fix this?
[07:24] <banshee_> When I click "Save to X Configuration file" it says, Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! How do I fix this?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> banshee_:  save it to a differnt file, then copy it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf   is one way
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, move your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf* files to a safe location, then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" then rerun the nvidia-settings and it should save
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> banshee_:  that issue has been fixed in 10.04 i belive. :) *yea*
[07:26] <ZenMasta_> Curly_Q just to make sure we're on the same page, this isn't a pfsense or monowall, its just a consumer grade netgear
[07:26] <banshee_> Sorry im new, you say files ,which files do i need to move
[07:26] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, there will be an xorg.conf but there may also be an xorg.conf.backup or similar
[07:27] <ZenMasta_> banshee_ * is a wild card, so xorg.conf* implies any file that begins with xorg.conf
[07:28] <magger> how can i find any hard drive in my computer from a terminal using a live cd??
[07:28] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta the http://192.168.0.***  Make sure that you want to go into that box.   Most boxes are at the:   .100       level
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> magger:  sudo fdisk -l
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> magger, "sudo fdisk -l" will list them
[07:28] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 Where should I move them, im new so i dont know what a safe location would be
[07:28] <magger> grandé
[07:28] <ZenMasta_> Curly_Q I'm logged in
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, your home directory would be a good spot - would you like the terminal command to do it?
[07:29] <ZenMasta_> oh what do you know, it detects a new version of firmware :P
[07:29] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta was it a .100?
[07:29] <ZenMasta_> no, 1.1
[07:29] <banshee_> Would it be, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf* /home?
[07:29] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta that is the Default Gateway.
[07:29] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, YES - but instead of using /home use ~ which will map to the correct /home/yourusername
[07:29] <_^mouse^_> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf* ~
[07:29] <Curly_Q> Or 0.1
[07:30] <banshee_> k thanks let me ty
[07:30] <robertms> anybody know how to get laptop hibernation working with karmic - i think it is to do with my wielress drivers?
[07:30] <ZenMasta_> there's nothing at .100
[07:30] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 should it echo anything back to me?
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, not if it was successful -- so no
[07:31] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, arp -a
[07:31] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 ok I did it, now how do I fix that parsing error again?
[07:31] <ZenMasta_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:31] <Curly_Q> ZenMaster anything goes with wireless. .anything works if you know the address.
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, on command line - no news is good news
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" first
[07:31] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, that should show most devices on your network route will show your routing table
[07:31] <banshee_> k then?
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, then "gksu nvidia-settings" and try to save
[07:32] <Curly_Q> Knowing the address is not everything. Knowing the password or passphrase or any encrypted password is key.
[07:32] <ZenMasta_> crypt-0 yeah but it doesn't
[07:32] <ZenMasta_> on win all I see is 1.1 and back in ubuntu nothing shows
[07:33] <ZenMasta_> in the router it shows only my desktop being connected
[07:33] <pepper_haze> does anyone know how to get the video device name for a webcam and mic?
[07:33] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, does ping <IP_ADDRESS> work?
[07:33] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 Ok now how do I restart x server so  I can complete this?
[07:33] <ZenMasta_> yeah, how would it not though hehe
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, no not really - did the save work?
[07:34] <pepper_haze> I want to record a movie with my webcam and mic, with vlc, and don't know what to put in the video device name
[07:34] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta if your system is connected to the router, it does not mean you are connected to the internet.
[07:34] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 I think so how do I check?
[07:34] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 It didnt error it just asked me where i wanted to save and whatn ot
[07:34] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, did you get the "failed to parse" error?
[07:34] <ZenMasta_> yeah I realize that but 127 is always local host.
[07:34] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 nope
[07:34] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, IP could be down so that could have been a problem
[07:34] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, then it should have worked :)  I'd make the changes/settings you want, resave, then reboot to test
[07:35] <sine_> the mp3 files are numbered in order like 1.mp3 up to 20.mp3 but cat does not truncate them in order is tehre a way i can do that man does not show it maybe 2.mp3 - 20.mp3 or something
[07:35] <MrNaz> according to my router, my ubuntu boxis opening connections to some unknown IPs that are in dynamic ranges for ISPs around the world
[07:35] <Curly_Q> ZenMaster you need to be connected to an :  ACCESS POINT        .      period.
[07:35] <MrNaz> according to my router, my ubuntu boxis opening connections to some unknown IPs that are in dynamic ranges for ISPs around the world
[07:35] <MrNaz> oops
[07:35] <MrNaz> are there any known viruses for ubuntu in the wild?
[07:35] <FloodBot3> MrNaz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <exploit100> hi i am new here
[07:35] <banshee_> ZykoticK9 It says it needs a restart to X server to finish, do I restart my computer?
[07:35] <pepper_haze> does anyone know what to put in the device name of vlc?
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> banshee_, might be the easiest thing to do (really i believe you only need to restart Xorg)
[07:36] <exploit100> hello
[07:36] <Curly_Q> ZenMaster try this:     ping www.ccn.com
[07:36] <ZenMasta_> thanks anyway guys. its not a big deal. gonna hit the sack
[07:36] <ZenMasta_> peac
[07:36] <sweb> what packase i need for compile php extention
[07:36] <sweb> ?
[07:36] <\bMike\b> When writing scripts, it is best to use /usr/bin/env since you don't necessarily know where perl/python/whatever will be, right? But it seems to me that env can't pass arguments along (ie /usr/bin/env perl -wT), is that right?
[07:36] <exploit100> someone here use the wget?
[07:37] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta you are lazy. Stick around and fix your problem.
[07:37] <dreak> hello, i got a question..how to uninstall ubuntu on my hard drive and install the latest one 10.04 beta 2 ?
[07:37] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, output of iwconfig?
[07:37] <ZenMasta_> no way, I've been working all night on other problems
[07:37] <ZykoticK9> \bMike\b, if no one answers you here - that would be an excellent question for the people in #bash - they're hard core command line junkies
[07:37] <Curly_Q> Do you think everyone here has not been working all night?
[07:37] <pepper_haze> I have a question, I want to record webcam and mic on vlc, but I don't know what to type in device name
[07:37] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, get some sleep often the problem will become obvious to you :)
[07:38] <ZenMasta_> crypt-0 lo eth0 wmaster0 = no wireless extensions. wlan0=ssid mynetgear
[07:38] <magger> what type of file system will my freshly format by the ubuntu disc will be ?
[07:39] <ZykoticK9> \bMike\b, and I'm saying that with a great amount of admiration, they've helped me out in the past with scripts - blown my mind really
[07:39] <Curly_Q> Crypt-0 Good suggestion but ZenMaster is lazy.
[07:39] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, strange and no routing table is DHCP enabled on  your router?
[07:39] <ZenMasta_> magger I think the live cd lets you choose... or you can preformat with gpedit
[07:40] <bullgard> yelp: "gnome-user-share is a session service that exports the contents of the Public folder in your home directory, so that they can easily accessed from other computers on the same local network. On the other computers, the shared folder will appear with a name like »'users's shared files« in the Nautilus Network window. gnome-user-share uses a WebDAV server to share the Public folder, and...
[07:40] <bullgard> ...advertises the share on the local network using mDNS." Auf Computer 2 habe ich eine Datei in ~/Public kopiert. Auf Computer 3 zeigt Nautilus > Network nur ein »Windows Network« von unbekanntem Typ und keine Benachrichtigung. Avahi hat gestern aber funktioniert, Warum funktioniert diese Dateiübertragung nicht?
[07:40] <magger> i didnt use the live cd.. what will be the default one then ?
[07:40] <Cerbero> i can listen output in GNU Denemo, i cant configure midi emulation. any solutions?
[07:40] <magger> i installed using the alternate cd
[07:40] <Cerbero> i cant*
[07:40] <willis__> hej
[07:41] <ZenMasta_> crypt-0 that's probably above my expertise. all Iknow is I can log into the router web interface fine, the arp commands etc only output what I mentioned earlier
[07:41] <pepper_haze> Does anyone here know what to put in device selection for webcam and mic when recording with vlc?
[07:42] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, IIRC you said it worked fine on win and not on ubuntu?
[07:42] <DarthPuff> if you guys had just installed a minimal system would you go with openbox or fluxbox?
[07:42] <Curly_Q> Permissions and Settings Zenmasta.
[07:43] <ZenMasta_> crypt-0 yeah the prob is connection drop s frequently in ubuntu but on windows I never have the problem. lemme unplug and try wireless again
[07:45] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta   "Connections dropped"   Is only because there is no authentication or the port is incorrect.
[07:46] <crypt-0> connection to the AP has nothing to do with ports
[07:46] <Curly_Q> Yes it does.
[07:46] <Curly_Q> If the error message comes up.
[07:46] <crypt-0> enlighten me
[07:46] <ZenMasta_> crypt-0/Curley_Q there aren't any wireless networks detected (even though they're broadcasting ssid) so I specify hidden just in case but no luck
[07:47] <Curly_Q> Try the correct PORT.
[07:47] <ZenMasta_> how do you specify a port when you can't even discover the network?
[07:47] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, stop pulling stuff out of your ass
[07:47] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta if there are no wireless connections detected, then, you are just wasting your time.
[07:47] <ZenMasta_> i know that's what I'm saying
[07:48] <tsyj2007> hello
[07:48] <tsyj2007> i just try 10.04
[07:48] <magger> how do i find out wath filesystem type is a ahrd drive so i can mount it ?
[07:48] <tsyj2007> but it often not very well
[07:48] <diddy> Is there any way to watch .wmv movies on Ubuntu 64 bin other than to reinstall a 32 bit system?
[07:48] <Curly_Q> How in Hell can you connect to any access point if there are no wireless connections detected?
[07:49] <ZenMasta_> plugged in manually
[07:49] <pepper_haze> what is dev/video0
[07:49] <Curly_Q> Crypt-0 you owe me an apology. Stop that stuff.
[07:50] <ZenMasta_> so for example right now, there are none detected but if I say hidden, enter my ssid and password it will loop discover/ask for password but never connect
[07:50] <ZenMasta_> 100% certain the password is fine
[07:50] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, you owe me a few kilobits of network traffic
[07:52] <ZenMasta_> gonna reboot to win and see if it works
[07:52] <Curly_Q> ZenMasta, please let me explain something. Even though you are connected to a wireless access point, you may see all kinds of data tranfers and so-on. The point to be made here is you are connected to a wireless router but you are not a legit connection to any connection unless you have permissions.
[07:53] <Curly_Q> Being connected does not mean you have access to the internet.
[07:53] <ZenMasta_> i know being connected means you don't have access to the internet
[07:54] <ZenMasta_> internet access isn' the issue, its connecting to the wireless network
[07:54] <exploit100> any idea about wget ?
[07:54] <dr3mro> will canonical drop compiz in ubuntu 10.10 ??????????????????
[07:54] <magger> can some one help me to retreive my harddrive and edit that file up.. it ask me which file system time it is when i try to mount it. and im not even sure that its the right HD ??
[07:55] <Curly_Q> You are already connected to a wireless router.
[07:55] <ZenMasta_> technically yes I was... but by ethernet
[07:55] <ZenMasta_> the problem is connecting with my wireless card which is not happening
[07:55] <exploit100> none to reply me here?
[07:55] <keyvan> hey folks is there a way to create an alias for the root user? so if i try to do ssh keyvan@host it will log me in as root? (this is so i dont have to type keyvan@)
[07:55] <keyvan> rather root@
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> dr3mro:  they havent done so.. why would you think they would?
[07:56] <keyvan> exploit100:  whats ur issue?
[07:56] <crypt-0> exploit100, what about wget?
[07:56] <Curly_Q> I could sit here all day and find in my neighborhood thousands of wireless people unsuspecting an intrusion.  What a sad for them.
[07:56] <exploit100> yes wget
[07:56] <_^mouse^_> thousands? wow
[07:56] <exploit100> how many time can resume it?
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> dr3mro, Dr_Willis if 10.10 ends up with Gnome3 then I think the answer will be Yes to dropping compiz
[07:56] <_^mouse^_> i can only see about 6 from my house
[07:57] <ZenMasta_> yeah, well no such luck in my neighborhood. only a handful in my reach and they're all protected
[07:57] <keyvan> Curly_Q: its like knocking on someones door in your neighborhood… most will let you in on good faith. its up to you if ur going to be malicious
 Curly_Q, you owe me a few kilobits of network traffic
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  from the last news i saw.. gnome 3 is delayed. but we will find out   more later this year i imageine
[07:58] <dr3mro> Dr_Willis, ZykoticK9 gnome-shell and compiz both are window managers :) can't run together
[07:58] <keyvan> unfortunately, not many people return that good faith anymore. "what a sad" for society at large.
[07:58] <Curly_Q> Keyfan thanks for that vote of confidence. I agree with you.
[07:58] <ZykoticK9> dr3mro, agreed - thus my comment ;)
[07:58] <keyvan> Curly_Q: ya i dont know what the conversation was about i just got here
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> dr3mro:  gnome-shell is not installed by default. and it sstill vbery much a work in progress from what ive seen
[07:58] <dr3mro> Dr_Willis, ZykoticK9 .. i hope gnome guys put the legacy gnome 2 panels into 3.0
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Getting rid of the panels - i figure is a MAJOR thing they want to do.
[07:59] <keyvan> is there a way to create an alternate username that will actually login as root?
[07:59] <ZykoticK9> dr3mro, i just started playing with gnome-shell the other day, it's pretty cool once you get used to it
[07:59] <Curly_Q> Keyvan some people here want to hack wireless or just know how to do it. I am not a full fan of giving out ways to do it.
[07:59] <dr3mro> Dr_Willis,  I just installed it and give it a try its 6 month away and far from a win98 usability
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  ive seen it done.. but whats the point
[07:59] <DarthPuff> have any of you used a tiling wm like awesome or ratpoison? i am thinking about trying one
[07:59] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: its so i can ssh to my server under my currently logged in name on macbook (keyvan)
[07:59] <keyvan> rather than having to type root@host
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> dr3mro:  last news i saw a few days ago. said gnome-3 was getting pushed back. but only time will tell.
[07:59] <keyvan> i can just do ssh host.
[07:59] <dr3mro> ZykoticK9, but there is no desktop effects and why gnome tends to reinvent the wheel
[07:59] <crypt-0> Curly_Q, thats why there is youtube and google for kiddies like you
[08:00] <geekphreak> hola
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  its best to ssh in as a user, then sudo -s
[08:00] <geekphreak> Dr_Willis: howdy
[08:00] <Curly_Q> Crypt-0 you are so funny. Why do you think I am a script kiddie?
[08:00] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: trying to save keystrokes and commands… but i dont want to create an alias in my bashrc either
[08:00] <crypt-0> hi geekphreak
[08:00] <geekphreak> crypt-0: hello sir
[08:00] <ZykoticK9> dr3mro, my first reaction to gnome-shell was verging on disgust - but once i learned it, i adopted the "pretty cool" attitude
[08:00] <dr3mro> Dr_Willis, gnome guys had the best compiz intgration and every thing is fine why drop it and give me the most hted word deprecated
[08:00] <crypt-0> no i think your just trolling and been wrong way too many times to be helping here
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  thers Lazy, then theres and insecure. :)
[08:01] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: nobody will get a hold of this laptop lol :P
[08:01] <geekphreak> crypt-0: who?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> You really shouldent be needing to be root for long time anyway.
[08:01] <sweb> what must i do for install packasge that compile php extentions
[08:01] <sweb> and apache modules !!! ???
[08:01] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: lol do you have a solution?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  security is 40% 'practice'  where you do the proper methods to keep things secure.
[08:01] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: by practice you mean extra keys?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  you could just allow root to ssh in. thats one way.
[08:02] <ZenMasta__> anychance ubuntu has a problem with WPA2?
[08:02] <magger> i need to find out what filesytem type a hard drive on my computer is so i can mount it, im running on a live cd and doesnt know what filetype the hard drive is
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  yes.
[08:02] <dr3mro> ZykoticK9, I wish it will be cool ... and by the way i don't understand why canonical is developing me menu and notification menu applets on a panel that will die in 6 moth
[08:02] <g0aliath> does anyone know of some good resources of bash scripting?
[08:02] <magger> i wou;ld really apreciate if come one could explain me for 2 min???
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> You shouldent really be needing to be root for a long period of time.
[08:02] <keyvan> Dr_Willis: i'm not root on my macbook… see when u do ssh host… it automatically does ssh local_user@host, but i dont want to login as keyvan, i want to login as root
[08:02] <geekphreak> crypt-0:  dont PM me
[08:02] <ZykoticK9> dr3mro, Lucid is supported for the next 3 years on desktop!
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  ssh takes an arument as what user to 'connect as'
[08:03] <ZenMasta__> magger gparted
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  you can set up sshd to allow root logging in.
[08:03] <crypt-0> ZenMasta_, which version of ubuntu?
[08:03] <dr3mro> ZykoticK9, who uses linux for 3 years with the same destro ... i wish i can install ubuntu daily :)
[08:03] <ZenMasta__> 9.10
[08:03] <trelane> I'm running ubuntu 10.4 Beta2, and while I'm not at the desktop my gnome panels will disappear (both top and bottom)  I've tried restarting gnome panel to no avail, and a search of the web has turned up empty.
[08:03] <keyvan> yes, Dr_Willis, but the macbook automatically suffixes the host with keyvan@ . it works if i do ssh root@remote_host, but i dont want to press the extra 5 keys if i dont have to
[08:03] <keyvan> prefixes*
[08:04] <geekphreak> !lucid | trelane
[08:04] <magger> ZenMasta__:  it replay me gtk warning cannot open displays:
[08:04] <keyvan> hence why i asked if i can create a "fake" user called keyvan on the remote host and have it actually login as root
[08:04] <tripelb> god+dess knows, this computer freezes and now I know it is not flash because I have flash off (supposedly I can turn it on in any instance, this fedora icon tells me so, but I wont try). I've decided it's hardware. ------ ON THE OTHER HAND, I let it sit for hours now and it didnt freeze. It's so random!
[08:04] <Curly_Q> KeyVan do you want to root copy and paste?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:   make an alias then.   or try the ssh configs -> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/use-sshconfig-simplify-your-life
[08:04] <crypt-0> ZenMasta__, likely not then although it wouldnt hurt to disable wireless security to rule that out.
[08:04] <ZenMasta__> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[08:04] <keyvan> Dr_Willis:  cool thx, ssh configs sounds good
[08:04] <Curly_Q> KeyFan with SSH client?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> a whole 5 keys.. egads.. ;)
[08:05] <ZenMasta__> crypt-0 i just changed it to wpa tkip rebooting now cause I was in windows
[08:05] <keyvan> Curly_Q: yes if you know how to copy the root user settings like the bash profile and everything
[08:05] <keyvan> then that would be good too
[08:05] <quizme> how do you remove an item from the Application->Internet-> drop down menu ?
[08:05] <keyvan> cuz its not good to be root anyway
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> keyvan:  link the users configs to /root/???configs??? is one way
[08:05] <dr3mro> The reason i ditshed windows 7 is that i like gnome more but gnome team is acting crazy to do the KDE4 mistake again just to be said it has a new look ... canonical should mke it possible to install old gnome to the 10.10
[08:05] <Curly_Q> KeyVan what SSH client are you using?
[08:05] <keyvan> openssh
[08:05] <Curly_Q> Is it a GUI client?
[08:06] <keyvan> no, bash terminal
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> dr3mro:   we dont even know if gnome3 + gnome shell will be avail by the time 10.10 comes out.
[08:06] <Curly_Q> What in the world are you running?
[08:06] <keyvan> Curly_Q: im currently on a macbook. by the remote host im talking about is a Linode VPS in texas running ubuntu 9.10
[08:06] <keyvan> but*
[08:06] <Curly_Q> Are you trying to sudo -i from Windows to Linux?
[08:06] <keyvan> eww windows
[08:08] <Curly_Q> KeyVan its all about permissions.
[08:08] <ZenMasta__> crypt-0 seems to be okay now but who knows if it will drop again soon, will need some time to trust it again. so with that, gonna hit the sack and will revisit tomorrow :P
[08:08] <ZenMasta__> night all
[08:08] <keyvan> Curly_Q: i think you make yourself out to be smarter or more knowledgeable than you actually are. does that sound accurate?
[08:08] <DarthPuff> how do i check the version of an app with aptitude search?
[08:09] <dr3mro> Dr_Willis, you know gnome 2.30 can be improved with out recreating the desktop for example we can add the tag for files and color taging like gmail to files on desktop and nautilus... also nautiljus needs alot of work to be metadata ready to edit mp3 tags and to preview video files ... better grid view in nautilus .. they just ignore all of that and create useless not essential shell
[08:09] <Tm_T> DarthPuff: typically gui application has in menu: help -> about
[08:09] <Curly_Q> KeyVan check this out:    sudo -i
[08:09] <DarthPuff> Tm_T: i'm 100% command line
[08:09] <Curly_Q> What file or directory do you want to ssh to?
[08:10] <tripelb> QUESTION: I have a computer that does not recognize the ethernet port. So I added an ethernet pci card. Same. Ubuntu 9.04 fresh install. On boot gnome window says Wired disconnected. And then unplugging and replugging gives me nothing at all. (It is the cable from cable (lol) that I am using here in this computer.
[08:10] <Tm_T> DarthPuff: app --version
[08:10] <DarthPuff> Tm_T: will that show the version in the repositories?
[08:11] <keyvan> Curly_Q: how old are you?
[08:11] <Curly_Q> KeyVan what directory do you want to SSH to?
[08:12] <sgh-i637> hola
[08:12] <Curly_Q> or file?
[08:12] <Tm_T> DarthPuff: nope, you need to use apt to see to repositories, or go to packages.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <sgh-i637>  nesecito ayuda
[08:12] <keyvan> Curly_Q: that's irrelevant. makes no difference
[08:12] <magger> once i mounted a hard drive to /mnt how can i acces it ?
[08:12] <Curly_Q> It does.
[08:12] <keyvan> Curly_Q: how so? what are you thinking
[08:12] <Curly_Q> If it is irrelevant, then you should not be asking questions here on this channel.
[08:12] <keyvan> Curly_Q: I dont think you understand my "issue"
[08:13] <keyvan> Curly_Q: because its a convenience thing.. not an actual problem.
[08:13] <sgh-i637> I have a ploblema hello, can anyone help
[08:13] <_^mouse^_> magger,  you mounted it to a directory, right? then just type cd <the mount directory> to access it
[08:13] <geekphreak> magger:  when you type ls /mnt , see those files?
[08:13] <Curly_Q> I know I had the same stupid problem. Don't you see?
[08:13] <keyvan> sgh-i637: dont ask to ask. just ask.
[08:13] <keyvan> Curly_Q: no, you didnt understand my situation. dont worry about it, its not a big deal
[08:14] <magger> so i should have mounted it to like /mnt/Afile iinstead of /mnt ?
[08:14] <geekphreak> sgh-i637: try asking
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> magger:  you could use /mnt/ but /mnt/SOMPLACE is proberly cleaner
[08:14] <Curly_Q> KeyVan I was on this channel for days and almost a month and there was only one person who knew what I was asking. Don't insult people who really want to help you.
[08:15] <DarthPuff> Tm_T: when i type man * it says command not found
[08:15] <DarthPuff> oops
[08:15] <keyvan> Curly_Q: Your first sentence does not logically lead into your second one. How old are you?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  'man man' :)
[08:15] <DarthPuff> when i type man it says command not found. do i have to install man?
[08:15] <crypt-0> magger, df will show you all mounted filesystems
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> man is installed by default..   so it would be odd its missing.
[08:15] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: it is a minimal install... i guess the man didn't come with it?
[08:15] <Curly_Q> My age has nothing to do with your problem Keyvan.
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  that may be the case then
[08:16] <wolfie1> hello everyone =)
[08:16] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: if i install it now will all the manuals be there
[08:16] <sgh-i637> I have an information on a hard disk that formerly was / home, but now that I can not reinstall 9.10 qeu see the information on this hard drive had
[08:16] <keyvan> Curly_Q: i'm just curious, anyway if you want to keep talking to me, keep it to private messages lest we flood the channel.
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  i think theres several different packages that have diffrent 'parts' of themanuals.
[08:16] <wolfie1> in ubuntu netbook remix, there is no desktop, (how can I do that on normal ubuntu?)
[08:16] <DarthPuff> wolfie1: install netbook remix;P
[08:17] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: hmmmm
[08:17] <Curly_Q> KeyVan I am almost 55 years old. Does that help you?
[08:17] <keyvan> wolfie: sudo apt-get remove gdm will stop gnome from running the gui on startup
[08:17] <ardchoille> keyvan Curly_Q  Can that be taken to another channel please?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> wolfie1:  I installed the ubuntu-netbook  stuff on my desktop :) but  under 9.xx having both on the same machine can confiuse things.
[08:17] <keyvan> err ubuntu, not gnome.
[08:17] <wolfie1> but I dont want netbook remix, I want my notmal ubuntu just with that fancy desktop that netbook remix has =)
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> wolfie1:  the 'desktop' is just handled by nautilus, the netbook edition dosent run that part of it.
[08:17] <DarthPuff> i've gone the other way
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> wolfie1:  thats the netbook-launcher tool i belive
[08:18] <DarthPuff> i want just a tiled wm... i tried twm but it was terrible
[08:18] <sgh-i637> I have an information on a hard disk that formerly was / home, but now that you reinstall 9.10 I can not see the information you had on this hard drive
[08:18] <ardchoille> wolfie1: the netbook launcher tool *is* the desktop in UNR
[08:18] <wolfie1> ooh!, thats what I wanted to know, it is on sinaptic? =)
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> wolfie1:  if you run it  on a norml gnome session - it just appears above the desktop i think
[08:18] <pingvinqq> anybody know a command, so i can restart a program?:D
[08:18] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: is there a way to use apt or aptitude to give me the version of apps in the repository?
[08:18] <pingvinqq> i need to restart a program , what is the command ???
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> pingvinqq:  depends on the program.   many take a signal to 'restart'
[08:18] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, have you tried pytyle?  i am using it with Arch and it works great.
[08:18] <DarthPuff> pingvinqq: find the command using top and kill it
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  proberly is.. but id have to check the apt manuals to figure out what it is.
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[08:19] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: it tried to do that :p man not found
[08:19] <pingvinqq> yeah but im professionel music maker, and i need to restart lmms, but it dont works, if i type restart lmms
[08:19] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: have you tried ratpoison or awesome? those have caught my eye but i can't decide on one
[08:19] <keyvan> pingvinqq:  killall lmms
[08:19] <pingvinqq> thx :D
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  not the man pages.. there exists some apt  web sites/guides
[08:19] <sgh-i637> anyone can help I have an information on a hard drive that was previously / home, but now that you reinstall 9.10 I can not see the information we had on this hard drive
[08:19] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, sorry, can't say i have.
[08:20] <wolfie1> I just installed netbook-launcher, now what? x3
[08:20] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: :( i'm stuck in command line... i'll look it up on my phone
[08:20] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: it's a hard choice
[08:20] <geekphreak> sgh-i637: was /home encrypted?
[08:21] <pingvinqq> keyvan: it dont works, ifi type killall lmms, its the same if i just close the program .. i need to restart it :)
[08:21] <angelo_> ciao a tutti
[08:22] <angelo_> !list
[08:22] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: wow, just typing aptitude gave me a gui
[08:22] <sgh-i637> as I can decrypt
[08:22] <keyvan> pingvinqq: once its closed, you can restart it. i dont have enough information, sorry.
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  a text based curses gui...
[08:22] <wolfie1> got it, just had to kill nautilus x3
[08:22] <pingvinqq> keyvan: ok ,
[08:22] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: :p better than what i have
  as I can decrypt
[08:23] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, i think ratpoison and awesome are window managers - you can use pytyle with your existing WM.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  i dont even know what your actual problem is/was :P
[08:24] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: i have no wm :)
[08:24] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i'm deciding what wm to use
[08:24] <sgh-i637> anyone can help I have an information on a hard drive that was previously / home, but now that you reinstall 9.10 I can not see the information we had on this hard drive
[08:24] <LordKow> xfce
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  install one.. try it.. move on to the next..  and the problem is?
[08:24] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i have a system with nothing but wireless access, nano, and irssi
[08:24] <ja660k> can the awk command run on a string not a file?
[08:24] <Dougdoug4> This outputs correctly but adds an entire spaced line after ( http://dpaste.com/181624/ ) e.g.

[08:24] <Dougdoug4> like that
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> ja660k:  yes. you could echo/pipe a string to it.. or use stdin.
[08:25] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to choose between ratpoison and awesome... but i need to know the version in the repository so i don't install outdated stuff. these two wm's aren't very mainstream.
[08:25] <Dougdoug4> OOPS
[08:25] <sgh-i637> anyone can help I have an information on a hard drive that was previously / home, but now that you reinstall 9.10 I can not see the information we had on this hard drive
[08:25] <Dougdoug4> wrong channel, my apologies
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:
[08:25] <ubuntu> trying to recover grub after windows install . can anyone help??         $ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-2 /dev/sda2grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !info ratposion
[08:25] <ubuntu> grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and its use is discouraged.
[08:25] <ubuntu> grub-setup: error: Cannot read `/grub/core.img' correctly
[08:25] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <sgh-i637> i can help
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !info ratpoison
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  there ya go
[08:25] <magger> look like i cannot find /ext/X11/xorg.conf on my ubuntu 9.10 maybe my info are outdated but where woul be that config file ??
[08:25] <DarthPuff> !info awesome
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  like its going to kill you to just instll both of them?
[08:26] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: that ain't minimal!
[08:26] <bullgard> yelp: "gnome-user-share is a session service that exports the contents of the Public folder in your home directory, so that they can easily accessed from other computers on the same local network. On the other computers, the shared folder will appear with a name like »'users's shared files« in the Nautilus Network window. gnome-user-share uses a WebDAV server to share the Public folder, and...
[08:26] <bullgard> ...advertises the share on the local network using mDNS." On computer 2 I have copied a file in ~/Public. On computer 3  Nautilus shows under 'Network' only a »Windows Network« of unknown type and no und no notification. Yesterday Avahi worked all right though, Why does this file transfer not work?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  i perfer icewm, or jwm, or flvwm
[08:26] <ubuntu> helo.........
[08:26] <meowbuntu> hi how do you  check ptoper filename syntax in comandline.
[08:26] <LordKow> !info xfce4
[08:26] <LordKow> ^ ftw
[08:27] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i was thinking openbox or fluxbox, but then i got the scent of something even more painstaking and difficult to use
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> 'minimal' a new buzzword  that really means very little. (pun!)
[08:27] <_^mouse^_> lol
[08:27] <ubuntu> can anyone see me...............      ???????????????
[08:27] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: :)
[08:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu: yes
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> DarthPuff:  fluxbox + rox filer = a fairly complete  low footprint desktop.
[08:27] <ubuntu> ardchoille:  can you help me
[08:28] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, i am using LXDE.  but to be honest if i were using ubuntu and i had ok h/w i'd just go with gnome+compiz, it just looks better.
[08:28] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i like fluxbox + thunar
[08:28] <ardchoille> ubuntu with what?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> I cant stand thunar
[08:28] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: my hardwareisn't ok
[08:28] <ubuntu> trying to recover grub after windows install. can someone help ?/          $ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk-2 /dev/sda2grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea.
[08:28] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, tried LXDE then?
[08:28] <ubuntu> ardchoille: ^
[08:28] <ardchoille> ubuntu: no idea, haven't touched a MS product in 9 years
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  dont use 'sda2' use 'sda'
[08:29] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis:  my kubuntu is on sda2
[08:29] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: i have before
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  the error message is saying that. :) basicaly
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  yes.. but the MBR is on sda.. NOT sda2
[08:29] <DarthPuff> fcuk112: i'm really just bored and looking for something different.
[08:29] <bretteroo> openbox is great if you want a low footprint desktop
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  sda2 = the 2nd filesystem.. 'sda' the disk itself.
[08:29] <sgh-i637> how to decode the information from my hard drive
[08:30] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis:  thanks :)
[08:30] <DarthPuff> bretteroo: i've tried flux but i can't find the difference between that and open
[08:30] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis:  it workds
[08:30] <DarthPuff> sgh-i637: was it encrypted?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  common mistake peopel do in several different   cases.
[08:30] <sgh-i637> anyone can help I have an information on a hard drive that was previously / home, but now that you reinstall 9.10 I can not see the information we had on this hard drive
[08:30] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: hm
[08:30] <DarthPuff> sgh-i637: did you partition the disk when you installed again?
[08:30] <fcuk112> DarthPuff, try arch+lxde+slim+pytyle+xcompmgr.
[08:30] <ardchoille> DarthPuff: iirc, fluxbox has the slit (panel?) and openbox does not
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> sgh-i637:  if it wasent encrypted.. check ownership of the files/dirs
[08:31] <DarthPuff> ardchoille: open has the dock now :\
[08:31] <ardchoille> DarthPuff: It does? wow, been a while since I used it
[08:31] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: he may have installed 9.10 over his old system
[08:31] <DarthPuff> ardchoille: it's just what i have read
[08:31] <bretteroo> @DarthPuff it is all about preference, differences are minimal
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !info flwm
[08:32] <DarthPuff> bretteroo: that is what i am thinking about ratpoison and awesome too
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> 164kB :)
[08:32] <sgh-i637> as ????? : (I am newbie
[08:32] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: wow that is tiny
[08:32] <DarthPuff> sgh-i637: when you went through the 9.10 installer did it ask to to do a guided partition of hte disk?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> If theres a smaller.. i dont know of it.
[08:32] <LordKow> that is totally the flwm meta package
[08:33] <DarthPuff> Dr_Willis: i read about one a while ago that was just a few lines of code... i don't know what it does over just plain x though
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> LordKow:  if you say so..  i never noticed it work ing as a metapackage
[08:33] <meowbuntu> hi how do you  check proper filename syntax in comandline.
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> lets try it in 10.04
[08:33] <LordKow> Dr_Willis: upon further inspection, i retract my statement
[08:33] <meowbuntu> the file has spaces in it
[08:34] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: you need to escape a space by putting a \ in front of it
[08:34] <DarthPuff> sgh-i637: did you use the graphical installer for 9.10?
[08:34] <ardchoille> example: ls /path/my\ file
[08:34] <Redeuxx> how do I pipe wget's downloaded file to /dev/null instead of a physical file?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> flwm + fltk ==> After this operation, 1,323kB of additional disk space will be used.
[08:34] <meowbuntu> ar
[08:35] <meowbuntu> ardchoille, really what about ()
[08:35] <ardchoille> meowbuntu: never seen that before
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> You can escape ( also.
[08:35] <ardchoille> ah