[09:21] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: thanks! Uploaded
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[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> does anybody care about this testsuite failure? somewhere the sbuild armhf default configuration seems wrong
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-http-conduit/2.1.11-3/+build/11197490
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> I can't reproduce on local pbuilder
[10:56] <LocutusOfBorg> in the meanwhile I'll disable it
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[13:10] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: please stop blaming sbuild for random stuff when there's absolutely no evidence that it has anything to do with it.  there'll be a bunch of other environmental differences between the armhf-on-arm64 builders and whatever your pbuilder is running on, and you'd do better to work out which test is failing and to try to see how to get more information out of it than to randomly ...
[13:10] <cjwatson> ... blame sbuild.
[13:12] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, of course I mean sbuild but I mean buildd configuration or whatever, indeed
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> the problem is that I don't know how to actually check that, because in my system it is not failing
[13:13] <LocutusOfBorg> and last time I tried to upload in a ppa, armhf was good
[13:13] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: So maybe it's a non-deterministic failure?
[13:14] <LocutusOfBorg> I retried a lot of times when I did the yakkety transition
[13:14] <LocutusOfBorg> deterministic
[13:14] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: PPAs build in exactly the same environment.
[13:14] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: So I don't believe that it won't be reproducible there.
[13:14] <LocutusOfBorg> I just uploaded it
[13:15] <cjwatson> I get that it's frustrating when it's hard to reproduce something, but just saying "hey guys I think this is an infrastructure problem" gets us nowhere.  It's always necessary to make some effort to get more information first.
[13:16] <cjwatson> And we don't have any special access to debug these systems in the way I think you imagine we have
[13:17] <LocutusOfBorg> so, no way in case of failures to see a debug build somewhere, right?
[13:17] <cjwatson> Getting the package build itself to produce more informative output really is the best way to do it
[13:17] <LocutusOfBorg> sure, but I'm pretty sure I remember that it wasn't reproducible in a ppa
[13:18] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe back to xenial's day
[13:18] <LocutusOfBorg> let me check
[13:18] <cjwatson> armhf PPAs used to be quite different
[13:18] <cjwatson> They aren't now
[13:18] <LocutusOfBorg> since when?
[13:19] <LocutusOfBorg> "11 Aug 2016" when I did that checks
[13:20] <cjwatson> It's been changing over the course of this year
[13:20] <cjwatson> Please try again
[13:20] <LocutusOfBorg> build is ongoing
[13:20] <cjwatson> I'd suggest hacking the package build to run the test multiple times
[13:20] <cjwatson> (in a PPA)
[13:21] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: fixed pkg-create-dbgsym is in zesty now, so you can retry
[13:21] <cjwatson> If there's any possibility that it might have any nondeterminism (and since you don't know what the bug is, you can't tell me that there isn't such a possibility), then you might well end up getting confused by a fluke pass
[13:22] <cjwatson> Basically, do more science
[13:22] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, I'm waiting for the new lazarus upload in Debian, thanks
[13:22] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, I'll try to debug it further
[13:22] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
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[15:48] <LocutusOfBorg> sigh, cmake-extras migrated to -release :/ and cmake didn't
[15:48] <LocutusOfBorg> this breaks silo
[15:51] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, can you kick it out? I have to think how enforce that cmake version to be installed, to avoid them migrating in different timings
[15:52] <LocutusOfBorg> and libuv1 needs a MIR, until that MIR is accepted, cmake-extras reverse-dependencies will be broken
[16:10] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: right, cmake-extras should grow some versioned dependency on cmake (generated at build time)
[16:11] <LocutusOfBorg> yes but I don't know how
[16:11] <LocutusOfBorg> I didn't find a way like we do when transitioning stuff
[16:11] <LocutusOfBorg> I would appreciate the new cmake not migrating until extras gets a rebuild
[16:11] <LocutusOfBorg> on an unrelated note: cjwatson https://launchpadlibrarian.net/293405094/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-armhf.haskell-http-conduit_2.1.11-3~build3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> I added the cat of such build log, and the content is the url of the build log itself
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> **** DUMPING LOG ****
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> Test suite test: RUNNING...
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> Test suite test: FAIL
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> Test suite logged to: dist-ghc/test/http-conduit-2.1.11-test.log
[16:12] <LocutusOfBorg> **** END LOG ****
[16:12] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: something like cmake-extras Depends: cmake (>= ${cmake:Version}), cmake (<< ${cmake:nextMajor}) and compute these in debian/rules
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, build-depends or runtime?
[16:13] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: runtime
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> :/
[16:13] <pitti> because that's where it matters
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> isn't this some sort of circular dependency stuff?
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> probably not, but seems... strange
[16:14] <pitti> no, why would it be?
[16:14] <pitti> cmake doesn't depend on cmake-extras
[16:14] <LocutusOfBorg> probably not, I agree
[16:14] <LocutusOfBorg> Depends: ${misc:Depends}, cmake (>= 3.7~), cmake (<< 3.8)
[16:15] <LocutusOfBorg> this might be good and stupid enough
[16:15] <pitti> right, except that the 3.7 and 3.8 should be computed dynamically via substvars
[16:15] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm not good at writing that code :/
[16:15] <pitti> but that should result in a dependencies like the above indeed
[16:15] <LocutusOfBorg> I'll try
[16:16] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: I don't remember how to get more information out of Haskell test suites
[16:17] <cjwatson> Hopefully there's some kind of verbose option somewhere
[16:19] <LocutusOfBorg> I remember doko asking that option many times with no answer
[16:19] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: something like CMAKE_VERSION=$(shell dpkg -s cmake | sed -n '/^Version/ {s/^.*: *//; p}' | cut -f1,2 -d.)
[16:19] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: and then using that as a lower bound, and $(CMAKE_VERSION)z as a high bound? so that you get (<< 3.7z)?
[16:20] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: You could ask the specific upstream for this package, perhaps.
[16:21] <LocutusOfBorg> I prefer dpkg-query
[16:21] <LocutusOfBorg> but it seems to be not working $$(dpkg-query --show --showformat='$${version}' cmake)
[16:22] <pitti> # dpkg-query -f'${Version}' --show cmake | cut -f1,2 -d.
[16:22] <pitti> 3.6
[16:22] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: ^
[16:22] <pitti> no double $
[16:22] <pitti> ' ' already escapes
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[16:23] <LocutusOfBorg> indeed, I'm still not confident with that, but I'll try to make a good upload
[16:23] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't like because cmake might start doing some bad versioning, and cut will fail
[16:23] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm always not confident with such "cut", I would appreciate way more dpkg-query to return the upstream version
[16:27] <cjwatson> I'm not quite sure why ${source:Upstream-Version} doesn't work; it would match deb-substvars(5) if it did
[16:28] <cjwatson> worth a dpkg bug perhaps
[16:31] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, --> https://github.com/yesodweb/yesodweb.com-content/issues/181
[16:31] <LocutusOfBorg> followed your advice
[16:33] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, I think I'll open a bug
[16:38] <bdmurray> infinity, slangasek: Is there a 16.04.2 release date?
[16:43] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, can I upload? unfortunately -release will be broken, and -proposed fixed until cmake migrates
[16:43] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: upload the tighter dependency? sure, please do
[16:45] <LocutusOfBorg> so, the versioning should be:
[16:45] <LocutusOfBorg> 3.7 < 3.7.1 < 3.7.9z < 3.8
[16:46] <LocutusOfBorg> 3.7 < 3.7.1 < 3.7z < 3.8
[16:46] <LocutusOfBorg> this is better ^^
[16:46] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake-extras/0.7+16.04.20160513-0ubuntu4
[16:50] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: I'd drop the microversion from it, as cmake-extras only ships stuff in MAJOR.MINOR/ dirs
[16:50] <pitti> there is no reason to break it on microversion updates, as a rebuild will look exactly the same
[16:51] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: oh, on second look I figure that's actually what you meant
[16:51] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[16:52] <LocutusOfBorg> for people interested: https://bugs.debian.org/844348
[16:52] <ubot5`> Debian bug 844348 in src:dpkg "dpkg: please support ${source:Upstream-Version} in query" [Normal,Open]
[16:55] <LocutusOfBorg> haskell transition is mostly finished, needs autopkgtestsuite runs against proposed, a ghc build I uploaded some seconds ago, and some removals that are affecting debian too
[16:56] <LocutusOfBorg> ppc64el stuff should be fixed with this new ghc
[16:59] <LocutusOfBorg> pitti, last question for today, I mostly promise
[16:59] <LocutusOfBorg> why some testsuite is shown as running, but the queue has no that package?
[16:59] <LocutusOfBorg> autopkgtest for haskell-hoogle/5.0.1+dfsg1-1: amd64: Test in progress, armhf: Pass, i386: Test in progress, ppc64el: Test in progress, s390x: Pass
[16:59] <LocutusOfBorg> I see lots of "in progress" that fails to complete because they seems to be not run
[17:08] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: there were some cases where tests exited with code 12 because the source packages failed to unpack; britney doesn't see those results
[17:08] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg: I'll be back in ~ 3 hours, will look at that then
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
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[17:29] <slangasek> bdmurray: if it's not on the schedule yet, I don't have one.  infinity what's the process for picking/setting the point release dates?
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[17:45] <slangasek> pitti, Laney: looks to me from http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running that some test requests have gone missing again (e.g.: lammps, amd64/i386/ppc64el; valgrind, amd64/i386/ppc64el).  I don't feel I have a handle on where these requests have gone when they disappeared; short of just cronning a mass-retry, how do we debug this?
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[18:03] <sergiusens> slangasek hey, mind letting snapcraft into xenial-updates and yakkety-updates?
[18:03] <slangasek> sergiusens: looking
[18:14] <sergiusens> thanks
[18:14] <slangasek> sergiusens: done
[18:51] <Laney> slangasek: LocutusOfBorg just asked that and pitti said he'd debug later on - I don't have a good feel for where to start looking ATM
[18:51] <slangasek> ok
[18:52] <Laney> pitti: or you can walk me through this with you tomorrow morning if you want
[18:52] <Laney> I mean I could start groping around but it might not be the most efficient way to do it
[18:55] <Laney> although...
[18:56] <Laney> there's a lot of
[18:56] <Laney> Nov 11 15:10:54 juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-3 sh[7686]: requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', RemoteDisconnected('Remote end closed connection without response',)
[18:56] <Laney> Nov 11 15:10:54 juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-3 sh[7686]: During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
[18:56] <Laney> in the log
[18:58] <Laney> also Nov 13 20:46:26 juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-3 sh[6824]: 2016-11-13 20:46:26,801 [6824] INFO: autopkgtest exited with code 20
[18:59] <Laney>        20   other unexpected failures including bad usage
[18:59] <Laney> ._.
[19:01] <Laney> ^- 6824 was valgrind/ppc64el
[19:06] <Laney><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:07] <Laney> that was supposed to be fixed by 3bee404
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[20:10] <pitti> Laney: so indeed haskell-google ran a ton of times after Nov 02 (last date on http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/h/haskell-hoogle/zesty/amd64)
[20:10] <pitti> Laney: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-zesty?format=plain&prefix=zesty/amd64/h/haskell-hoogle
[20:11] <pitti> Laney: this is explained in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure#Container_Layout and the following paragraph
[20:11] <pitti> hm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:11] <pitti> \: command not found
[20:11] <pitti> that again
[20:11] <pitti> I already fixed two instances of that
[20:12] <Laney> pitti: hm?
[20:12] <slangasek> you fixed it so that the \ command is found?
[20:12] <pitti> ₥e goes to chase trailing spaces
[20:12] <pitti> err, what on earth is that?
[20:12] <slangasek> hah
[20:12] <slangasek> ₥
[20:12] <pitti> wow, that's compose-/me
[20:13] <pitti> /usr/bin/\ :)
[20:13] <pitti> nah, curious effect of bash 4.4 (new in zesty) plus the wonderfully nested quoting of two shell scripts through ssh
[20:13] <pitti> the first instance took me over an hour, the second 3 mins, let's see how long that will be
[20:14] <slangasek> øµɨđħŧ⌿ƀ₥ √ƶǥ¢ what a strange set of compose options
[20:14]  * Laney only sees one in git
[20:15] <pitti> Laney: the other is in autopkgtest-cloud
[20:15] <pitti> slangasek: is that compose-/-<any letter> ?
[20:15] <slangasek> pitti: yeah basically
[20:18] <Laney> pitti: oh right, I can see it then
[20:18] <pitti> ${REL}-proposed; " ← space
[20:18] <pitti> I'll reproduce it locally and then fix it (should be simple)
[20:19] <Laney> yes
[20:26] <pitti> Laney: I found the command, but a more generic solution will be more robust: testing https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/commit/?id=812d04661 now (it does work with the above haskell-hoogle)
[20:38] <pitti> ok, LGTM, mass-retrying now
[20:40] <pitti> or rather, retrying http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-r-cran-shiny for now, if that works end-to-end, retrying the rest
[20:42] <pitti> muuuch better
[20:45] <Laney> pitti: nice
[20:45] <Laney> BTW I already understood the container layout - that's how I found the valgrind link that I gave just above your text
[20:46] <pitti> ah, good
[20:46]  * pitti pushes retry-autopkgtest-regressions --help change that runs 10 wgets in parallel
[20:46] <Laney> exit 20 causing things to remain as in progress but not actually be running is not very good
[20:46] <pitti> xargs, you are amazing
[20:47] <pitti> Laney: indeed, right now britney ignores results without a testpkg-version artifact as it cannot assign them to anything
[20:47] <pitti> Laney: and testpkg-version does not exist because it failed before being able to download the source package to determine that
[20:47] <pitti> so, a bit tricky
[20:48] <pitti> that's a new/rare kind of problem, we haven't had that in a loong time
[20:48] <pitti> (tests going missing en masse; the previous one was bug 1571353)
[20:48] <ubot5`> bug 1571353 in Auto Package Testing "test results get lost and stay "in progress" forever when multiple tests finish at the exact same time" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571353
[20:52] <Laney> pitti: oh right, so could we put the version in as part of the request?
[20:52] <Laney> autopkgtest ... package/version
[20:52] <pitti> Laney: we can't predict the version accurately
[20:52] <Laney> britney knows it
[20:52] <pitti> well, it could know, but not righ tnow
[20:53] <pitti> i. e. it could check whether the released or the proposed version of the tested package is going to be tested (via analysis of transitive Depends: of the trigger)
[20:53] <pitti> but it's not really easy
[20:54] <pitti> Laney: what would be better is to generate a random hash, add it as an env variable, and read it back from the artifacts, and keep it in pending.json
[20:54] <pitti> then you can match completely failed results too
[20:54] <pitti> (still not sure if it's worth the trouble -- it won't significantly reduce the time for analyzing the real bug)
[20:55] <pitti> we already do the env/read back exercise for the "trigger"
[20:58] <Laney> pitti: Well this time you didn't hear about the bug for a long time because nobody checked tests that britney was claiming were in progress
[20:59] <Laney> Until they got suspicious
[20:59] <pitti> right, and today I didn't check excuses.html yet
[21:05] <Laney> pitti: Could you just make up a testpkg-version?
[21:09]  * Laney goes away
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cups-filters (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.11.4-0ubuntu2 => 1.11.4-0ubuntu2.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[21:14] <pitti> Laney: hmm, we could -- just "testpkg" or "testpkg-none" or so, not sure if that would confuse other consumers
[21:15] <pitti> Laney: but this would then also hit random apt failures, connection/DNS/hash sum errors, and what not -- in many of these cases you want an auto-retry instead of declaring it a test failure (as there's nothing wrong with the test)
[21:16] <pitti> so in the beginning we had a lot of displayed failures due to random testbed/network issues
[21:16] <pitti> now the pendulum is more in favor of "tmpfail"/auto-retry
[21:22] <tkamppeter> Can you please reject cups-filters 1.11.4-0ubuntu2.1, I have forgotten to add the bug number (bug 1637583) to it.
[21:22] <ubot5`> bug 1637583 in ghostscript (Ubuntu Yakkety) "PWG Raster printing on IPP Everywhere printers not working correctly" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1637583
[21:22] <pitti> tkamppeter: done
[21:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cups-filters [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.11.4-0ubuntu2.1]
[21:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cups-filters (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.11.4-0ubuntu2 => 1.11.4-0ubuntu2.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[21:29] <tkamppeter> pitti, thanks. I have replaced the package now.
[22:21] <Laney> pitti: Those are tmpfail and requeued, no?
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:20]  * tsimonq2 claims responsibility for those new purpose binaries
[23:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:21] <tsimonq2> If those could get looked at, that would be awesome. :)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpod-weaver-section-support-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [1.007-1] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libpod-elemental-transformer-list-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.102000-1] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: purpose [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.1-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: recursive-narrow [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [20140811.1546-1] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnome-shell-extension-hard-disk-led [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [13~git20160916.6fe27b2-1] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: iedit [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-pivotal-golang-clock [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20151018.0.3fd3c19-1] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libwww-shorten-github-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.1.7-1] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libconfig-methodproxy-perl [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.02-1] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-rentrez [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.4-1] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ido-ubiquitous [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.14-1] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-regenerator-runtime [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.9.5-1] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-grunt-contrib-clean [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)


[01:15] <hatch> hazmat: will take a look tonight - it's definitely something I've been looking into
[13:53] <hatch> frankban: our time is running out with regards to not sending the uuid from the gui on api requests. Do you know if that is sent in the envinfo?
[13:54] <frankban> hatch: do we need to send the uuid when logging in?
[13:55] <hatch> frankban: I'm not sure...
[13:56] <hatch> I'm just spinning up an env now
[13:56] <hatch> hoping that it's in there :)
[14:06] <frankban> hatch: it seems that connecting to the root URL of the API address is still supported, but in the future we want to connect to /environment/{env_uuid}/api
[14:06] <frankban> hatch: is this your end goal?
[14:06] <hatch> frankban: right - apparently that's coming sooner rather than later
[14:07] <hatch> yeah - so I need to find that uuid
[14:07] <hatch> unfortunately the 'debug' mode in the gui is not working today ://///
[14:07] <frankban> hatch: ok to do that we need to know the environment UUID
[14:09] <hatch> yeah - for some reason debug mode in the gui is no longer serving the individual files
[14:09] <frankban> hatch: we can handle that in two ways: 1) do not touch the GUI and handle that on the gui server side. this way, the GUI still connects ti its own domain, and the gui server does the redirect or 2) connect the GUI websocket to a specific path of the guiserver, and the guiserver will proxy to the corresponding path of the Juju state server
[14:09] <frankban> hatch: move this discussion to jaas
[14:09] <hatch> chooo chooooo
[14:10] <hatch> I'm still stuck on trying to get the gui to serve the proper assets :/
[14:10] <hatch> I wonder when that broke
[14:11] <hatch> oh look it was another chrome caching bug....man this browser is falling apart
[14:21] <hatch> frankban: ok joining standup
[15:00] <hatch> jcsackett: weechat uses F11/12 to scroll the nicklist - but F11 makes the window go full screen :) any ideas
[15:02] <jcsackett> hatch: don't go to channels with that many nicks and/or use a taller monitor?
[15:03] <jcsackett> hatch: i've never had cause to scroll the nicklist.
[15:03] <hatch> #juju has too many people :)
[15:04] <hatch> ok not going to lie - most of my channels have more than my vertical space
[15:56] <hatch> looks like my branch from yesterday failed ci merge because of spurious errors...man this CI
[17:00] <hatch> frankban: hey how do you debug the backend.py code? essentially I want to put a pdb in the 'start' method but it'll need to be in a real env
[17:01] <frankban> hatch: debug-hook?
[17:01] <hatch> can you debug hook if everything runs through the same file?
[18:48] <hatch> uiteam any
[18:48] <hatch> python peeps want to see if this is the best way to accomplish this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hatch/charms/trusty/juju-gui/add-uuid-configjs/revision/230
[18:51] <hatch> yes this is valid es6 js.....oy vey
[18:51] <hatch> exports.activate   = () => console.log('this package was activated')
[22:06] <huwshimi> Morning


[00:06] <Linkmaster> I'm feeling fairly good about myself with what I did, just by troubleshooting, and double-checking what I thought to do. It not only proved that Linux is an extremely useful operating system that doesn't take long to work the hoops if you try, it also shows that an exwindows-fanboi can, and will, learn how to use Linux :D
[00:07] <sione> hello
[00:07] <Linkmaster> sione: hello
[00:10] <sione> I pinned Konsole from the menubar to the panel, I modified the icon of Konsole on the panel - I thought it just was a shortcut - by adding --enable-transparency to the "command"... then it didn't work and the icon disappeared (it was a black terminal now it is a white paper)
[00:10] <sione> I removed it, and Konsole disappeared from the menubar, how to readd it ?
[00:11] <Linkmaster> can you still invoke konsole via "alt+F2 -> konsole"?
[00:11] <sione> yes, but there is no icon (black terminal) anymore
[00:12] <sione> I see the little icon jumping while it loads
[00:12] <Linkmaster> Thats fine, it means we still have it in your system which is good
[00:12] <sione> and it is not a black terminal
[00:12] <Linkmaster> Okay, let me find the konsole run command real fast
[00:12] <Linkmaster> Wait, its not a black terminal? What comes up?
[00:13] <Linkmaster> Wait, nevermind, I know what you mean. The little white page is whats bouncing, correct?
[00:13] <sione> correct
[00:13] <sione> its a blank thing
[00:14] <sione> if I open chromium I see the chromium icon jumping, but konsole now is blank, and it disappeared from the menubar... just by modified the app lol
[00:15] <Linkmaster> sione: I think I know how to get konsole back in your menubar
[00:15] <sione> Linkmaster: tell me please
[00:15] <Linkmaster> First, right-click on the Kmenu, and click 'edit applications'
[00:16] <Linkmaster> after that,click on 'system' when it loads
[00:16] <Linkmaster> On the application list
[00:16] <sione> yup
[00:16] <Linkmaster> Once its highlighted, on the top click "new item"
[00:17] <Linkmaster> name it konsole
[00:17] <Linkmaster> or terminal, or whatever you want
[00:17] <Linkmaster> Once its named, highlight it, and on the 'general' tab, where it says 'command' click the little option that lets you browse
[00:18] <Linkmaster> actually no, close the box, and type in /usr/bin/konsole
[00:18] <Linkmaster> So that this ^^ is directly in the line, sorry about the backtrack there
[00:19] <Linkmaster> once that is in place, click on the square box right above that line to choose a picture
[00:19] <Linkmaster> scroll down to find one you either like, or until you find the 'terminal' option
[00:20] <Linkmaster> Once you've done all that, hit 'save' let it update it, and tell me if it worked
[00:21] <sione> there is a way to reload the default menubar ?
[00:22] <Linkmaster> Your menubar is shot too?
[00:22] <Linkmaster> I remember at one point...but did what I tell you work?
[00:22] <sione> I dont see where to change th picture
[00:23] <sione> above the "command" line ?
[00:23] <Linkmaster> are you still on the kmenu application edit thingy?
[00:23] <sione> yes
[00:23] <Linkmaster> okay
[00:23] <Linkmaster> and you've done everything else, correct?
[00:23] <sione> yes, just need a picture
[00:23] <Linkmaster> Okay
[00:23] <Linkmaster> Make sure your in the 'general' tab
[00:24] <sione> yes
[00:24] <Linkmaster> On that same context plane, there will be a square, around 1"x1" that is blank. Click on that square
[00:24] <sione> oh lol
[00:24] <Linkmaster> It will be along the right, above the 'comment' line, and beside the 'description' line
[00:24] <sione> thanks... it was invisible
[00:24] <Linkmaster> You got it, good. Now, pick a picture you like, or type in 'terminal' and hopefully it'll be in there
[00:25] <Linkmaster> Yeah, its pretty sneak with certain themes
[00:25] <sione> thanks man
[00:26] <Linkmaster> Does it work now?
[00:26] <sione> perfectly
[00:26] <Linkmaster> Good :D
[00:28] <sione> I'm not used to kde yet, I am use to no GUI at all lol, its like a labyrinth for me
[00:28] <sione> kde is like*
[00:53] <amnite> quic question hot do i change the bg for logon on screen in natty?
[00:54] <amnite> hullo?
[00:56] <OerHeks> type in your KDE menu 'start' and you will find a manager for splash screens
[01:00] <Linkmaster> sione: trust me, it an amazing desktop environment
[01:04] <BloodyRain2k> hi, I managed to wreck my Kubuntu again and was wondering if it's possible to reinstall it without having it overwrite my userprofile of the wrecked installation, it's an older version though, 10.10 going by my only dvd and the fact I never updated. Is that possible?
[01:05] <Linkmaster> BloodyRain2k: how did you 'wreck' it? We might be able to fix it
[01:07] <BloodyRain2k> I partially doubt it but surprise me, what I did last was having the great idea of updating things with the Synaptic (I think) Package Manager, well that install thing, so I selected all packages that were marked upgradeable, were around 272, some failed, most went fine and it wanted to restart, so I did
[01:07] <Linkmaster> What is going wrong?
[01:08] <BloodyRain2k> now I get only error lines when I try to boot with second timecodes in [] like [64.6] and some ata.xx error
[01:08] <Linkmaster> Did you upgrade a kernel?
[01:08] <BloodyRain2k> can't really remember, well I got that for the recovery console too so I figured it was wrecked. I guess I accidently did that too, as I suddenly had a new one for launching, both were giving these errors though
[01:09] <BloodyRain2k> if you want me to write down some errors give me a min, then I'll boot it up again
[01:09] <Linkmaster> Okay, you did have a kernel upgrade. are you using a seperate computer, or dual booting?
[01:10] <Linkmaster> Ah, I assume dual-booting then. Yes, please write the errors as you see them, then go to pastebin.com and type it in there
[01:11] <BloodyRain2k> nah, seperate pc, but the one that has it is dual booting anyways
[01:11] <BloodyRain2k> ok gimme a few min
[01:18] <BloodyRain2k> http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7659/s5003883z.jpg ok here it is
[01:19] <BloodyRain2k> way easier and more accurate than typing it myself
[01:19] <Linkmaster> makes sense, let me load it up real fast
[01:20] <BloodyRain2k> it shows these lines going till around 500 to 600 sec, then my usual glitched screen (driver problem) comes which normally indicates its loading the GUI, Bluetooth turns on too, hdd runs for a short time longer, then nothing anymore
[01:22] <Linkmaster> So it spams those lines for a long time?
[01:23] <BloodyRain2k> yup, sometimes it starts at 64 sec, onetime it started at 500+
[01:23] <Linkmaster> I'm guessing you can't get to KDM, and neither the newer or older kernel 'recovery' modes worked?
[01:23] <BloodyRain2k> I thought it could fix itself if I let it run for some time a few times but this time not : (
[01:24] <BloodyRain2k> nope, I can't get into nothing, which is why I considered it wrecked, again
[01:24] <BloodyRain2k> that was the reason if linux can reinstall but still keep userprofiles like windows can sometimes
[01:25] <Linkmaster> Alright, so what are you trying to save?
[01:25] <BloodyRain2k> not that much, mostly the work of setting everything to my liking again
[01:25] <Linkmaster> okay, most of that will be in .kde
[01:26] <Linkmaster> what you'll need to do is grab a LiveCD and whatever you use to back up your stuff. To make life easy, just back up /home
[01:26] <BloodyRain2k> nice that my install cd is both, live and install, so for backing up i guess you mean just a place for it like an usb stick? or do I need to get some application for that first?
[01:27] <Linkmaster> Once its backed up, reinstall it, and then from your backup, move /home and overwrite the current /home. Once thats done, restart to ensure all changes work fine
[01:27] <Linkmaster> You can use a USB stick, external harddrive, whatever you want
[01:27] <Linkmaster> Use Dolphin thats on the LiveCD
[01:28] <BloodyRain2k> mhm, if i wanna back up my installed applications, will that be much harder?
[01:29] <Linkmaster> such as what?
[01:29] <Linkmaster> Though yes technically it will be. Some would be involved by hunting through the system folders, which isn't that hard, but from a new installation you may/may not have the required dependencies, so its better to just re-install them
[01:30] <BloodyRain2k> mhm i guess, isn't that hard with synaptic
[01:30] <BloodyRain2k> ok thanks, gonna do that :3 ill report back if it worked or i got stuck somewhere
[01:30] <Linkmaster> Preferably the first!
[03:59] <greenKremling> can anyone help me? i have 5.1 surround and i'm trying to change the channels (front, rear, subwoofer...). i cannot seem to find these settings. i just get a general 5.1 volume control but beyond that i cannot configure anything else.
[04:02] <OerHeks> open terminal: alsamixer
[04:07] <dinesh_> how to format pendrive in Kubuntu 11.04
[04:15] <dinesh_> any advise?
[04:15] <dinesh_> how to format pendrive in kubuntu 11.04
[04:23] <dinesh_> how to format pendrive in kubuntu 11.04
[04:24] <wildgoose> !repeat
[04:56] <C_Smith_> hey, how can I check my GPU's Memory?
[04:57] <Linkmaster> You can load up the system module, which shows all the processes running
[04:57] <Linkmaster> 'kmenu -> applications -> system -> system monitor'
[04:57] <Linkmaster> C_Smith_: ^
[04:57] <C_Smith_> ok, thanks
[05:00] <C_Smith_> I'm not seeing my Gfx card (GPU)'s memory on there, but I'm seeing my CPU usage which is quite nice.
[05:00] <Linkmaster> Hm.....i have no clue then, I have onboard graphics D':
[05:01] <C_Smith_> I
[05:01] <C_Smith_> have a Intel Integrated, so would that affect the memory findings in the command "lshw"?
[05:02] <Linkmaster> I dunno
[05:02] <Linkmaster> I don't think so
[05:02] <Linkmaster> But thats just me thinking
[05:03] <C_Smith_> well, tbh, I have no clue what part of "display" I would look for the memory at, my guess is this "resources: irq:44 memory:d0000000-d03fffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:5110(size=8)'
[05:03] <Linkmaster> put it in a pastebin, and send the link. I'll take a look at it once my file is done compressing
[05:04] <C_Smith_> k
[05:06] <C_Smith_> here's the pastebin of my lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/633414/
[05:08]  * Linkmaster 's file is still compressing
[05:10] <C_Smith_> just take your time, no rush.
[05:16] <C_Smith_> hey, in Amorok, how can I create a Smart Playlist?
[05:25] <IAmError> Is there a way to install the software centre from Ubuntu, onto Kubuntu?
[05:27] <C_Smith_> I don't believe so, but I'll let someone a little more experienced answer that.
[05:38] <frogonwheels> IAmError: really the only difference between 'ubuntu' and 'kubuntu' is that it defaults to kde rather than gnome...
[05:39] <frogonwheels> IAmError: what's the problem with the Software Management  in the system settings?  which bit are you after?
[05:39] <C_Smith_> Linkmaster, is that file still compressing?
[05:39] <frogonwheels> IAmError: I tend to be a fan of aptitude myself, but that's personal preference :)
[05:39] <Linkmaster> It just finished
[05:40] <C_Smith_> cool, big file?
[05:41] <Linkmaster> Eh....I'm not a hardware techie :/
[05:43] <C_Smith_> hmmmm, is there anywhere I can go to find this out?
[05:44] <C_Smith_> or should I just default the setting to "512"?
[05:51] <C_Smith_> so, it looks like my GFX card (an intel GMA4500MHD) relies on storage from elsewhere, so I'll just put the setting to default.
[07:47] <p896gbm> hey folks, where are the program shortcuts in kde?
[07:47] <p896gbm> the .desktop files wh
[07:47] <p896gbm> which go in my 'start menu' or whatever it's called
[07:48] <yofel> the .desktop files are in /usr/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/applications/
[07:48] <p896gbm> perfect thanks yofel
[08:46] <Muhammad-Tahir> hi
[08:47] <Linkmaster> hello
[08:48] <Muhammad-Tahir> brb
[08:59] <abkde> Hi, kpackagekit says it can't get exclusive lock, anybody knows what to do?
[09:00] <szal> don't use it
[09:00] <McWebb> is there another kpackage process running?
[09:02] <McWebb> wow..that's the first thing I've said on irc in over 10 years...hope it was worth it
[09:02] <abkde> szal: same problem with ubuntu software center
[09:03] <szal> btw, anyone noticed that JuK is weird? -> turn off crossfading between tracks, then put 1 track in its collection list & it will repeat that ad infinitum, put 2 tracks in its collection list, and it will stop after track 1
[09:03] <abkde> McWebb: no, there is not, even i restarted system and problem still exist
[09:04] <yofel> abkde: does 'lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock' or 'lsof /var/cache/apt/archives/lock' say something?
[09:04] <abkde> yofel: let me check
[09:05] <yofel> those are the only lock files I can think of...
[09:06] <dinesh_> i have installed gimp in my kubuntu 11.04.. it has installed but its not opening
[09:06] <szal> dinesh_: it's not supposed to open automagically ;)
[09:06] <dinesh_> szal : how to open it
[09:07] <dinesh_> szal: please advise how to open it
[09:07] <szal> enter "gimp" in the menu
[09:08] <szal> icon will be available after next login
[09:08] <dinesh_> yes i clicked it but its not opening
[09:08] <szal> (same for all other newly installed programs)
[09:08] <dinesh_> yes i agree
[09:09] <dinesh_> its not opening ..... how to do that
[09:09] <szal> run "gimp" from terminal & observe eventual error messages
[09:09] <dinesh_> (gimp:3191): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0
[09:09] <dinesh_> Segmentation fault
[09:10] <dinesh_> this is the message i got
[09:11] <yofel> *sigh*, you're not the first one with a gimp crash, not sure what the problem is there...
[09:12] <szal> starting fine here, just installed
[09:12] <dinesh_> how to clear that
[09:12] <yofel> right, starts fine here too, but for some people it  just crashes
[09:12] <dinesh_> can you advise i am new to kubuntu
[09:15] <yofel> dinesh_: try to follow the workaround described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/778414/comments/3
[09:16] <dinesh_> below mentioned error is coming
[09:16] <dinesh_> (gimp:3191): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0
[09:16] <dinesh_> Segmentation fault
[09:16] <szal> bug 785027
[09:17] <yofel> dinesh_: as I said, follow the instructions in the comment, should work
[09:17] <dinesh_> ok
[09:17] <abkde> yofel: following the error messege instructions solved the problem, how i didn't noticed that before! i don't know!
[09:17] <yofel> :)
[09:18] <abkde> yofel: tnx :)
[09:20] <ZweiDrei> Hello.
[09:21] <dinesh_> Its not opening
[09:21] <dinesh_> i did the option what you have recomded
[09:21] <yofel> dinesh_: what theme did you use?
[09:22] <yofel> you *did* press the apply button? ^^
[09:22] <dinesh_> plain
[09:22] <dinesh_> there is no simple there
[09:22] <ZweiDrei> Does anyone know how to stop the Synaptiks Touchpad app from autostarting???
[09:22] <yofel> well, anything other than oxygen-gtk should work
[09:22] <dinesh_> i checked with all the options
[09:23] <yofel> you did change theme -> apply -> try to open gimp using that theme?
[09:24] <dinesh_> yes
[09:24] <yofel> :/
[10:08] <FlashDeluxe> hi! does anybody know a good keylogger for kubuntu?
[11:25] <TheKonvict> hello
[11:26] <TheKonvict> join #metasploit
[11:26] <TheKonvict> damn
[12:05] <olskolirc> I'm using kate.  How do I set a link behind words please?
[12:08] <uberfrau> hey guys, i need help installing wine and stuff so i can view .xml files
[12:09] <uberfrau> err, wait, i can open with firefox, duh
[12:09] <uberfrau> nvm ;D
[12:15] <dinesh_> how to install nimbuzz in kubuntu 11.04
[12:17] <dinesh_> How to install nimbuzz in kubuntu 11.04
[12:35] <raul_> Hi everyone, I have troubles with apt and aptitude I did so many nasty changes so I decided to reinstall from 0, I removed aptitude but apt stills unremoved I trided dpkg --purge and dpkg --remove but it complains about dependencies, anyway I tried to reinstall it after downloading de dpkg package and doing sudo dpkg -i apt.... but it does not solved my problem whichs was "E: Method /usr/lib/apt/methods/ did not start correctly"
[12:36] <raul_> Any tip in how to remove all the apt stuff and reinstall it will be really apreciated, thanks in advance
[12:37] <frogonwheels> raul_: just remember apt stuff is your package download management!
[12:38] <frogonwheels> raul_: so if you're gonna try reinstalling it all, you better have the .deb packages lying about.
[12:38] <frogonwheels> (they'll be in you apt cache to start with)
[12:39] <raul_> frogonwheels: I have the apt.deb package already I tried to install it does not worked out
[12:40] <dator> Can somebody help me to put in autostart?
[12:40] <soee> any news about KDE 4.7rc1 in Kubuntu ppa's ?
[12:40] <raul_> frogonwheels: And when I try to force de pruge of the apt package with sudo dpkg --purge apt it complainas about several dependences
[12:41] <anonboo> Freze, What is your question?
[12:42] <Freze> anonboo: I was writting ;), I`m connecting my VPN with terminal how do i put it on autostart (when Linxu starts)
[12:42] <Freze> Plus you have to write password and username
[12:46] <Freze> ?
[12:46] <anonboo> Freze, put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[12:47] <Freze> anonboo: Thanks but the script remains
[12:47] <anonboo> Freze, Rephrase please.
[12:49] <Freze> Anoonboo: brb
[12:49] <Freze> Anonboo: I have to write in terminal to connect to my VPN: sudo openvpn /etc/openvpn/PrivatVPN-SE.conf
[12:49] <Freze> and USERNAME & PASSWORD
[12:51] <anonboo> Freze, Sorry, I don't understand what the problem is.
[12:52] <Freze> Anonboo: Haha? When I connect to Linux, I`m not connected to my VPN (Virtuell Private Network). And I have to write all these commandos.
[12:52] <Freze> But how do I write a script that does this automatic
[12:52] <Freze> when linux boots
[12:55] <OerHeks> Freze there is a wiki about setting up your VPN connection and save the connection details > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[12:59] <Freze> OerHerks: Checking in out brb
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:34] <vlad___> hi
[13:49] <neurochrome> hey folks, i'm a new convert to kde4(.6) and have to say it is running very well on my latest machine, so kudos to the devs for that... one question though, I have the 'search box' on the panel, and it does nothing... is there something I'm missing here?  enter does nothing, and nothing is searched for... what am *I* doing wrong? ;)
[13:49] <Muhammad-Tahir> hi
[13:52] <BluesKaj> neurochrome, that search is for particular apps installed on the system , use nepomuk for system file searches
[13:53] <Muhammad-Tahir> BluesKaj i m on Lubuntu but i cant hear the voice it simply goes off :(
[13:53] <neurochrome> BluesKaj, I thought this was nepomuk?  It doesn't even find apps to be fair though.  I could quite easily search apps using alt+f2 if I know the names
[13:56] <BluesKaj> yes neurochrome , the run command ( alt+F2 or right click on the desktop ) is for file paths etc..check in system settings>startup&shutdown>service mnager to check the runnining daemons
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Muhammad-Tahir, do you meanthat there's no audio or sound ?
[13:58] <Muhammad-Tahir> no
[13:58] <Muhammad-Tahir> there is but i dnt know how it just went off
[14:00] <BluesKaj> sorry Muhammad-Tahir , I'm not sure what you mean
[14:00] <Muhammad-Tahir> in the right click menu on Speaker in the tray the " Vlume control Setting is not enabled" i cant  clickon it
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Muhammad-Tahir, did just update/upgrade?
[14:02] <Muhammad-Tahir> a fresh install
[14:02] <Muhammad-Tahir> i m having trouble with sound
[14:02] <Muhammad-Tahir> in the beggining its okay but than it simply goes off
[14:03] <Muhammad-Tahir> n the right click menu on Speaker in the tray the " Vlume control Setting is not enabled" i cant  clickon it
[14:04] <BluesKaj> ok , Muhammad-Tahir , open a terminal , sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras && alsa-base alsa-utils
[14:05] <BluesKaj> or look for those apps in the software sources
[14:05] <Muhammad-Tahir> Thx Man its working
[14:09] <kyubutsu> downloaded 64bit flash from adobe, where to cp this for firefox
[14:13] <Muhammad-Tahir> BluesKaj u there ?
[14:13] <Muhammad-Tahir> it is saying
[14:13] <Muhammad-Tahir> alsa-base: command not found
[14:14] <kyubutsu> nice, although it wasn't showing, at least i can see icedtea showing up in ff about:plugins
[14:14] <BluesKaj>  kyubutsu , just install kubuntu-restricted-extras , it contains java and other media apps/codecs required
[14:15] <kyubutsu> i did that.. no results. so i installed icetea via kpackagekit
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Muhammad-Tahir, sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir> ndiswrapper-common libdmraid1.0.0.rc16 archdetect-deb python-pyicu
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir>   libdebian-installer4 cryptsetup reiserfsprogs rdate libcairomm-1.0-1
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir>   libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libatkmm-1.6-1 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libpangomm-1.4-1
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir>   btrfs-tools libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a localechooser-data apt-clone dpkg-repack
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir>   libcheese-gtk18 libdebconfclient0 dmraid libgnome-desktop-2-17 hwdata
[14:16] <Muhammad-Tahir> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[14:16] <FloodBotK1> Muhammad-Tahir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <Muhammad-Tahir> okay
[14:17] <kyubutsu> so, my question is: where to place the flashsquare driver so ff can register
[14:17] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, then you have to enable the repository sources in the packagekit , some must be diasbled
[14:18] <kyubutsu> icetea seems to be working .. i need the directory for flash
[14:20] <kyubutsu> if it is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins , do i have to reboot for it to apply ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj>   /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives usually kdesudo will work
[14:24] <kyubutsu> what's dpkg has to do with firefox
[14:25] <kyubutsu> BluesKaj: where is your flash.so
[14:26] <kyubutsu> what directory
[14:26] <BluesKaj> firefox-flashplugin in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives
[14:28] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu,, personally I think you're going about this the wrong way , enable alkl the repos in the packagekit and install kubuntu-restricted-extras ... then the proper plugins etc will be instaled for FF etc
[14:30] <BluesKaj> cherry picking with flash isn't good practice IMO
[14:30] <kyubutsu> i installed the restricted-extras via kpackagekit already
[14:31] <kyubutsu> even before ff
[14:31] <BluesKaj> the alternative can also work tho , install flashplugin-installer
[14:31] <kyubutsu> i did that too
[14:33] <kyubutsu> i'll just drop the flash driver i got into ../dpkg/alternatives and see what happens
[15:26] <Ddpbf> hi
[15:26] <Ddpbf> is there kde 4.7 rc1 packages in kubuntu-ppa?
[15:27] <genii-around> Not yet, latest is 4.6.4
[15:27] <Ddpbf> i ment in kubuntu beta backports
[15:27] <Ddpbf> 4.7 will not be in kubuntu-ppa till 4.7.1 afaik
[15:28] <genii-around> They might know a better timeline for this in #kubuntu-devel
[15:29] <Ddpbf> might be
[15:30] <Ddpbf> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[15:30] <Ddpbf> it seems they have some problems
[15:31] <svaksha> my wifi card is not detected in kubuntu. Any ideas? I have tried,

[15:31] <Ddpbf> err
[15:31] <Ddpbf> svaksha: wich wifi card?
[15:31] <svaksha> broadcom 43x
[15:31] <Ddpbf> sudo lscpci -nn | grep -i network
[15:31] <Ddpbf> and sudo lshw -C network
[15:32] <svaksha> sudo: lscpci: command not found
[15:32] <Ddpbf> typo
[15:32] <Ddpbf> lspci
[15:33] <svaksha> tried that, returned nothing
[15:33] <Ddpbf> sudo lspci -nn | grep -i network ?
[15:33] <Ddpbf> it must tell you some thing
[15:34] <Ddpbf> ok what says other one?
[15:34] <Ddpbf> sudo lshw -C network
[15:36] <svaksha> Ddpbf: http://dpaste.de/COyK/ <-- the broadcom card is not detected. Isnt that odd?
[15:37] <svaksha> my wirered commection works btw
[15:37] <svaksha> wired*
[15:37] <Ddpbf> that s good
[15:37] <Ddpbf> what said lshw -C network
[15:38] <Ddpbf> it should see your card?
[15:38] <svaksha> it only checks the PCI, CPUID and returns nothing
[15:38] <svaksha> Ddpbf: no, it does not list any output
[15:40] <Ddpbf> svaksha: do you hawe usb wifi adapter?
[15:40] <svaksha> nope. this wifi card worked fine till i updated the kernel
[15:41] <Ddpbf> you could install
[15:41] <Ddpbf> older kernel
[15:41] <Ddpbf> on natty
[15:41]  * svaksha is on lucid
[15:41] <Ddpbf> errrr
[15:42] <Ddpbf> ok then you could easy instal older one
[15:42] <svaksha> the kernel version that came with lucid was fine but a sudo apt-get update killed something
[16:04] <sione> Hello, I am looking for "menu.lst", where is it ?
[16:16] <genii-around> sione: normally in /boot/grub  directory. menu.lst is for older grub version 1 however.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> back..taking a break from the lawn mower...musn't overdo it
[16:23] <sione> genii-around: I am looking to change the boot resolution, I talk about the inputs at the startup before the splash screen, 'cause I can't see those... my monitor says something like "PC resolution out of range" while starting up, then the splash appears and everything is fine
[16:24] <genii-around> sione: If you do command: apt-cache policy grub grub2      it should say which one of them is installed. From there we know which files to edit
[16:26] <kubu2> sione: look in /etc/default/grub
[16:27] <noaXess> hey all
[16:27] <noaXess> is there any way to boost up internal cpu fan in a asus notebook.. over a comand?
[16:28] <sione2> genii-around: look at that
[16:29] <sione2> grub:
[16:29] <sione2>   Installed: (none)
[16:29] <sione2>   Candidate: 0.97-29ubuntu61
[16:29] <sione2>   Version table:
[16:29] <sione2>      0.97-29ubuntu61 0
[16:29] <FloodBotK1> sione2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <sione2>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages
[16:29] <kubu2> sione2: look in /etc/default/grub
[16:31] <sione> genii-around: your command says that there is no grub installed, is it possible ?
[16:32] <sione> kubu2: yes I'm in
[16:33] <yofel> yes, it's possible, grub-pc should be installed
[16:33] <noaXess> sione try with grub-common
[16:33] <yofel> !grub2 | sione
[16:34] <sione> I think my computer do not support grub2
[16:35] <kubu2> sione: have you looked in that grub file? the resolution is there
[16:36] <Ddpbf> sione: which kubuntu do you have?
[16:37] <sione> Ddpbf: last one
[16:37] <Ddpbf> and how that yor computer does not support grub2?
[16:37] <Ddpbf> if it can take full kde
[16:37] <Ddpbf> than grub2 is peace of kake
[16:38] <Ddpbf> *cake
[16:38] <yofel> does it show the grub screen if you hold left shift pressed on boot? (It doesn't show itself by default unless you dual boot)
[16:38] <notslad_> I've manually installed Firefox 5 but java (not javascript) is not working in the browser.  I've uninstalled all of the openjdk packages and installed the sun-java6 packages (including sun-java6-plugin) but Firefox still believes that it doesn't know what to do with java code.  Any ideas where I should start looking from here?
[16:38] <sione> yofel: ok I'll try that
[16:39] <kubu2> sione: edit the file /etc/default/grub and look for #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[16:39] <sione> kubu2: should I uncomment that ?
[16:39] <yofel> notslad_: the only thing the icedtea and sun-java6-plugin packages do is link the java plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so, so it should be able to find it as long as it looks for it there
[16:39] <kubu2> uncomment it and change the res you want
[16:40] <sione> kubu2: then it will show up on boot I guess ?
[16:40] <sione> instead od that "PC resolution out of ranger" error from my monitor lol
[16:40] <sione> range*
[16:40] <yofel> in Natty the grub resolution handling was changed to use gfxpayload=keep and vt.handoff=7, maybe it's those
[16:41] <notslad_> yofel: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so exists.. and ldd says that it isn't missing any libraries.. but when I go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp the page says "Something is wrong.  Java is not working"
[16:41] <kubu2> sione: once you have it changed then do sudo update-grub then reboot
[16:42] <notslad_> yofel: when I did an "ls -p $(pgrep firefox) | grep plugin it shows that firefox is using the libflashplayer.so plugin in the same directory that you pointed out..
[16:42] <soee> is there any app similiar to gtk pavucontrol for kde ?
[16:42] <yofel> no idea what's wrong then :/
[16:43] <yofel> sione: additionally to GRUB_GFXMODE, adding  GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text to /etc/default/grub could help
[16:43] <notslad_> soee: I usually use kmix for audio volume control...
[16:44] <notslad_> yofel: thanks for taking a look, though.  I'll keep digging :^)
[16:45] <sione> yofel: thanks, I'll try first to press "left shift" to see what happen, then I'll modify the grub file
[16:45] <soee> notslad_, yeah but i want to configure 5.1 speakers etc. pavuctontrol was quite nice
[16:46] <notslad_> soee: since KDE uses pulseaudio I would think you could still use pavucontrol
[16:47] <soee> notslad_, ok thanx for help ill give it a try
[16:48] <notslad_> soee: if that doesn't work, kmix has some more settings in "Settings -> Audio Setup" that might adjust what you need
[17:07] <noaXess> some laptop users here?.. what overal temp does your cpu have the whole day on working?
[17:08] <noaXess> mine is 66°
[17:08] <noaXess> ~66°
[17:08] <Dommi> ~55
[17:09] <noaXess> hm.. ok.. i develop often, some browser open, eclipse.. normally 18-20 open programms..
[17:13] <kyubutsu> just came by to say if one installs kubuntu without internet connection/thirdparty stuff/update.while.installing, it turns into a pretty messy experience to get java/flash working
[17:14] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, check out the alternate install
[17:14] <BluesKaj> !alternate
[17:15] <kyubutsu> first time around, i installed just the base system and could not get flash/java to work on rekonq or even firefox
[17:15] <solifugus> So what (lately) is the best way to install nvidia drivers?
[17:15] <yofel> hardware drivers app (jockey-kde)
[17:15] <solifugus> I see it..
[17:15] <solifugus> thanks
[17:16] <kyubutsu> BluesKaj: you and i never seem to be on the same page, sigh
[17:16] <BluesKaj> solifugus, open the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , choose the recommended driver
[17:16] <kyubutsu> anyhow, i got my issue solved
[17:17] <solifugus> BluesKaj: strangely, it says it's already activated.  This is a fresh kubuntu 11.04 install
[17:17] <solifugus> But even 2D performance is quite slow..
[17:17] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, the factoid doesn't mention the alternate install is the preferred methos for installing kubuntu without an internet connection
[17:18] <BluesKaj> solifugus, what's your nvidia card
[17:19] <solifugus> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] (rev a1)
[17:19] <kyubutsu> i was making a point that using the normal install without an internet connection is near useless as far as being web ready
[17:19] <solifugus> It said one was activated.. but the one that said "current" was not.. so I am activating that now.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> solifugus, the current is the recommended driver , correct ?
[17:21] <solifugus> BluesKaj: Yes.  The one that showed as activated already was the other..  had (173) in parenthesis..
[17:22] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu,  I prefer the alternate install cd for both linux machines here , an older one that needs it due to it's HW and this pc because of the greater number of opr=tions
[17:22] <Linkmaster> are there any hardware people who can help me with a possible compatability issue?
[17:22] <solifugus> This newer KDE looks much nicer..
[17:22] <solifugus> getting closer to how nice kde 3.x was to use..
[17:22] <BluesKaj> solifugus, which kubuntu version are you running and which nvidia card ?
[17:23] <Rabenvogel> Hallo
[17:23] <yofel> BluesKaj: he already said natty and 8500GT
[17:23] <Rabenvogel> Kurze Frage. Gibt es bei Amarok auch eine Möglichkeit Onlinestreams (in meinen Fall Radio) abzuspielen und zu verwalten?
[17:23] <Linkmaster> wait, nevermind
[17:23] <Rabenvogel> uh wrong channel sorry
[17:24] <BluesKaj> oh sorry i missed that solifugus ... I was away for a couple of mins
[17:25] <BluesKaj> nvidia-current is definitely the driver for the 8500gt
[17:27] <BluesKaj> Linkmaster, what issue is that ?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> err was that :)
[17:28] <solifugus> BluesKaj: yeah.. I'm running between two computers, myself..
[17:29] <solifugus> will restart now to see how it works..
[17:29] <BluesKaj> had to switch to the tv input ....wifw wanted to watch the weather forecast
[17:29] <BluesKaj> er wife
[17:30] <Rabenvogel> a short question: can amarok replay and bookmark online audiostreams?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> my timing seems to be off today ...better have some lunch
[17:33] <solifugus> Now my desktop is much, much faster..
[17:33] <solifugus> but i still want to get one of those shiney new 6-core AMD processors.
[17:39] <kyubutsu> nice! so cool rekonq is working out.. won't have to install firefox
[17:39] <kyubutsu> victory is mine!  muahahah
[17:41] <kyubutsu> really excited; i was testing out unity for a bit , was good until it crashed and burned on me.
[17:42] <BATi> kyubutsu: I was testing out unity, until I crashed a burned it :)
[17:42] <BATi> and*
[17:43] <kyubutsu> kde has a nicer set of default apps in my opinion too
[17:43] <kyubutsu> ubuntu/unity has alot of kinks to iron out at this point
[17:44] <kyubutsu> short of not using the word 'disaster'
[17:46] <notslad_> yofel: someone in #firefox helped me figure out my browser/java-plugin issue.. Firefox's "Download" button has a 32-bit version.. you can go to their ftp.mozilla.com site and download the 64-bit version.. because I had been running 64bit java and 32bit Firefox the plugin failed to load
[17:46] <yofel> great -.-
[17:48] <kyubutsu> it did not occur to me to check on #firefox when i had flash issue .. /chuckles
[17:49] <kyubutsu> although, reinstalling with the proper options was much better solution anyway
[17:51] <kyubutsu> believe this, googling for answers only added to the confusion
[17:51] <kyubutsu> kde seems to be pretty obscure still
[17:51] <kyubutsu> ubuntu gets all the coverage
[17:57] <jjjjoe> When I do an apt-get update I get the following error:
[17:57] <jjjjoe> Reading package lists... Error!
[17:57] <jjjjoe> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:57] <jjjjoe> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_binary-i386_Packages
[17:57] <jjjjoe> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:57] <FloodBotK1> jjjjoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <jjjjoe> woops!  Didn't know it was that long.  Sorry
[17:59] <jjjjoe> Anyone seen this error?
[18:00] <genii-around> jjjjoe: You can just remove all in that directory, it gets rebuilt when you do: sudo apt-get update
[18:04] <evmo> hello to all
[18:05] <jjjjoe> genii-around, I still get the error even after i delete that file
[18:07] <genii-around> jjjjoe: Is your hard drive extremely full?
[18:07] <jjjjoe> genii-around, nope
[18:08] <jjjjoe> genii-around, I just did a sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/
[18:08] <genii-around> jjjjoe: Thats fine, as I said it gets rebuilt
[18:09] <jjjjoe> genii-around, thanks!  Its working now! =)
[18:09]  * genii-around celebrates with a fresh coffee!
[18:18] <mrCK> $list
[18:24] <BluesKaj> !list | mrCK
[18:32] <mrCK> !list
[20:19] <keito> Just installed Kubuntu 11.04 and it asks for my KDE daemon password to unlock the NetworkManager ... EVERY BOOT!!! How do I get it to stop doing this?  I've selected 'remember' and it still doesn't work.  I read installing wicd will do it, but is there no other way?
[20:50] <foormea> hi. i had an ubuntu-desktop dstrib installed, i installed kubuntu-desktop metapackage for the switch to kde. i want to remove all the ubuntu-desktop-related stuff. i have a list of installed packages that contain *gnome*, but when i issue a sudo aptitude purge <lits of packages>, i get warning messages because of dependancies
[20:50] <foormea> also, *gnome* is not a proper fit for ubuntu-desktop dependancies
[20:50] <foormea> i really want to remove all gnome stuff because it's messing with kde
[20:50] <foormea> but i'm not sure now how to go about doing that
[20:51] <foormea> oh, consider i cannot reinstall my system :)
[20:51] <yofel> !purekde | foormea
[20:51] <foormea> found this: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[20:52] <foormea> thanks yofel
[20:52] <foormea> ::)
[20:58] <jamesiarmes_> I have an HTC Thunderbolt and I'm trying to Tether it to my laptop. When I try using the mobile hotspot, it does not appear in my list of wireless networks and I can not connect by typing in the SSID manually. When I try to tether to USB I don't see any devices listed for me to connect to in the network manager. I'm running Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE 4.6.4
[21:18] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all. :)
[21:19]  * Linkmaster starts his fires
[21:19]  * LINKSWORD2 burns Linkmaster's files.
[21:20] <Linkmaster> Why'd you do that? D:
[21:20] <LINKSWORD2> I felt like it.
[21:20] <Linkmaster> Good enough for me
[21:20] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[22:33] <amichair> is it possible to boot and run partition editor from the regular hard disk installation (without live cd/usb) and modify the system disk?
[22:34] <yofel> as long as you're not trying to modify the system partition, yes. The partition that is being modified needs to be unmounted IIRC.
[22:34] <James147> amichair: yes, but it is highly unwaise to edit disks that have mounted partitions... hence why you should boot a live cd if you need to edit root
[22:35] <amichair> yofel: I do want to modify the system partition
[22:35] <yofel> then use a live disk. I think fdisk can edit the system partition, but you can only use the changes after a reboot
[22:35] <amichair> that's what I guessed, but I was wondering if there's some way to boot in 'read only' mode or somesuch
[22:35] <yofel> a live disk is less likely to cause a mess
[22:36] <yofel> well, you could remount,ro the partition
[22:36] <amichair> after all, everything that's on the livecd is already on the disk, no?
[22:37] <amichair> it actually sound like it would be pretty simple to add such an (advanced) option to the standard boot menu
[22:37] <yofel> well, the disks are mounted ro at boot and are later remounted rw, so it would be trivial I guess
[22:38] <amichair> if only I knew how to fiddle with the boot commands
[22:38] <prometheus777aax> hi, anyone noticed that video played fullscreen in dragonplayer/vlc/smplaye goes black for a moment when pressing right mouse button or moving mouse?
[22:38] <prometheus777aax> anyone knows how to fix this?
[22:40] <James147> amichair: the safest and easiest option is to boot a live cd... though  I know its possible to resize ext filesystem while mounted I dont know how resizing a partition would act
[22:41] <yofel> prometheus777aax: try to go to the desktop effects settings -> advanced -> suspend desktop effects for fullscreen windows
[22:41] <yofel> maybe that helps
[22:45] <prometheus777aax> yofel: suspended already
[22:45] <yofel> try to not suspend them
[22:46] <prometheus777aax> yofel: it works, thanx, you saved my day :)
[22:49] <footroot> hello
[22:49] <footroot> anybody to help me
[22:49] <James147> !help | footroot
[22:49] <footroot> ok, thanks
[22:52] <footroot> error "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal."
[22:53] <footroot> I try to reinstall but I can't
[22:53] <footroot> anybody knows why?
[22:58] <yofel> footroot: can you pastebin the full error output you get?
[22:58] <yofel> !pastebin
[22:58] <footroot> i'll try
[22:58] <footroot> No se pudo instalar uno de los paquetes seleccionados.
[22:58] <footroot> En el informe detallado puede consultar más información.
[22:58] <footroot> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[22:58] <yofel> ok, what exactly are you trying to reinstall?
[22:58] <footroot> language-pack-sd
[22:59] <footroot> I don't need it but I can't do enything else if I don't install it
[23:07] <footroot> somebody knows what's my problem, why I can't install the package?
[23:08] <yofel> sry, was busy. can you open Konsole and run 'sudo -E LANG=C apt-get install language-pack-sd' and post the output to http://paste.kde.org and give me the link?
[23:09] <footroot> ok
[23:13] <footroot> http://paste.kde.org/89071/
[23:13] <footroot> I think i did well
[23:15] <yofel> footroot: this time run 'sudo -E LANG=C apt-get install -f' and post it again
[23:17] <footroot> http://paste.kde.org/89077/
[23:18] <yofel> okay....
[23:18] <footroot> I'm not sure what's happening, can you explain?
[23:19] <yofel> try: 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-sd_<TAB>' where <TAB> means pressing the tab key since I'm not sure what the version would be
[23:20] <yofel> should autocomplete the file
[23:21] <footroot> ok, i'll try
[23:21] <footroot> I do copy and paste
[23:21] <yofel> well, *something* broke the package management status files for that package, no real way to find out how that happened other than reading the logs
[23:21] <footroot> didn't I?
[23:22] <yofel> well, run that, then try apt-get install -f again
[23:22] <footroot> ok
[23:26] <footroot> I think it run
[23:26] <footroot> I'll post again
[23:26] <footroot> wait
[23:27] <footroot> http://paste.kde.org/89083/
[23:28] <footroot> so, now I have to install the rest of updates
[23:28] <yofel> should be fine now
[23:28] <footroot> thank you
[23:29] <footroot> could you explain me what we did?
[23:30] <footroot> or, why the package was broken?
[23:30] <footroot> just if you can
[23:33] <footroot> it can be because I tried to upgrade without success
[23:33] <footroot> ?
[23:34] <footroot> the system did something estrange, it start the upgrade and at 28 % stoped
[23:34] <soee> any plans to ship KDE 4.7 rc1 via ppa ?
[23:38] <kameel> hi all, yesterday everything run fine and today I had a login loop. Nothing helped and I destroyed my root user account. Now I created another one but this one doesn't has root (can't install apps or anything). How can I delete the /home/snew/ partition in terminal so that it gets created by scratch by next boot up? I want to delete the whole /home partition so I don't have anymore the loop problem and get my apps and their
[23:38] <kameel> configs back from my backup
[23:39] <kameel> If I now try to login with snew I get an error that /home is missing
[23:41] <yofel> kameel: go to the grub screen (hold left shift pressed at boot), select recovery mode, then in the recovery shell you'll be root
[23:42] <yofel> if you want to give your new user sudo permissions you need to add him to the admin group
[23:42] <kameel> is there a possibility to delete the superuser snew from recovery shell, recreate him with a fresh home partition?
[23:43] <kameel> or wait
[23:43] <kameel> ok answered it myself
[23:43] <kameel> will try, thanks
[23:43] <footroot> thank's guys, I'm learning just reading
[23:46] <footroot> how can I know where is the web folder of my server (LAMP)?
[23:47] <footroot> where sould I put my webpages?
[23:47] <Ddpbf> yofel: is there any plans for 4.7 rc1 in kubuntu ppa.  I believe that you heard this question lot of times, but I need it for news on ubuntu-rs.org
[23:47] <si> oi
[23:47] <si> alguém fala meu idioma?
[23:48] <footroot> eu puedo tradure
[23:49] <footroot> mais o menos
[23:49] <yofel> we're working on it. END. here's the current state: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[23:49] <si> eu sou novo neste tipo de bate-papo
[23:49] <yofel> Ddpbf: ^
[23:49] <Ddpbf> yofel: thanks.
[23:50] <footroot> faces a tua domanda
[23:50] <si> será que ninguém aqui fala português-do-brasil?
[23:50] <Ddpbf> si: try #ubuntu-br
[23:50] <footroot> eu poso fala español
[23:51] <Ddpbf> or #ubuntu-pt
[23:52] <Ddpbf> si: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[23:54] <jwash> hi everyone, can someone assist me getting my workspace situation corrected? i have enabled 4, but I can't switch between them. I do have the workspace switcher enabled and showing, but it only shows one workspace.
[23:56] <si> alguém aqui é um expert em ubuntu 11.04 e que possa me dar uma ajudinha?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> !pt


 Alhamdulillah .. just finished conference call with a new partner #GalacticFog (http://www.galacticfog.com) as an alternative and more features to OpenShift. Its support multi cluster Kubernetes, DC/OS and Docker Swarm. Having a introduction about their solutions and moving forward for futures partnership and businesses .. thanks #Canonical for the introduction to our new partner.
 any developer looking at managing multi CaaS environment, may contact us if interested
 and similar Lambda features in AWS
 @najmiep anda biasa pakai zoom ?
 zoom website teleconference tu ke
 penah guna
 haah
 baru pertama kali td meeting pakai tu
 yeah.. mmg impressive kan
 partner pakai mac pun crash .. td sy pakai windows pun tetiba blue screen
 lepas reboot pakai on linux plak
 ohh pulakk
 haha
 x run pape pun .. ms powerpoint + outlook + Edge + zoom
 impressive tu ... susah juga nak kata sbb almost similar features ngn conference call lain
 blue screen tu mcm ade benda tak kena je
 kami pakai ok je dekat 30 orang serentak
 tp presenter pakai MAC pun
 aku guna on phone
 owh
 dia punya installer dlm linux buat aku give up
 sy baru pertama kali sbb partner pakai zoom
 pakai phone je
 give up ? nape ?
 ok je install
 i see
 ade satu dependencies kalau x silap
 jap
 ada isu depedency last time.. nak kena buat cepat
 so dlm phone segera je le
 1979  sudo dpkg -i zoom_amd64.deb   1980  sudo apt install libxcb-xtest0
 unless ada bagi repo ke senang jek
 ade dalam history lagi
 yeah.. dh install actually tapi jarang guna
 biasa hangout je
 ooo dah install la zoom
 kalo small firm ok jek nak deal dgn benda2 manual ni... kalo biz dah expand nak tak nak kena cari _asAService ni sebab nak fokus on the real problem
 ingat x install terus
 yesza
 @najmiep, penah pakai gak..waktu buat teleconfernce ngan abam adli thn lepas
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/ubuntu-18-04-lts-will-ship-older-version-nautilus?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email&iid=6728334137224b368b2ebc51ad1470bc&uid=3029676812&nid=244+289476616
 lupa lak, kalau sapa nak koleksi cd version 5.10 kasitau ye. ada melambak ni
 tshirt ada x?...hehehe...
 Ada ..dah reput hahahaa
 Baju ubuntu guru saya pun dah berlubang terkoyak sikit. Syg baju tu
 Tshirt kat lazada ada jual
 @msyukor, Wah haha
 @msyukor, mastergie
 baju² rare masa kuar version ubuntu baru skali ngan cd..hehehe
 Baju2 ubuntu boli yg abam pogee design ado lagi le..
 Baju2 free yg cloudflare bagi waktu awai2 dulu ada lagi
 Sapa ada baju debian 😝
 Yg blkg dia ada pic lembu + penguin
 @mauisabily, bukan lembu, tapi gnu
 Ooo
 Ya ya gnu
 😋
 Spectre Mitigation Updates Available for Testing in Ubuntu Proposed  Canonical holds Ubuntu to the highest standards of security and quality. This week we published candidate Ubuntu kernels providing mitigation for CVE-2017-5715 and CVE-2017-5753 (ie, Spectre / Variants 1 & 2) to their respective -proposed pockets for Ubuntu 17.10 LTS (Artful), 16.04 LTS (Xenial), and 14.04 LTS (Trusty).  We have also expanded mitigation to cover s390x a
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> ppc64el.  https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-5715.html  https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-5753.html  You are invited to test and provide feedback for the following updated Linux kernels.  We have also rebased all derivative kernels such as the public cloud kernels (Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc) and the Hardware Enablement (HWE) kernels:  17.10 (Artful): linux-4.13.0-30.33
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.13.0-30.33  16.04 LTS (Xenial): linux-4.4.0-111.134  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.4.0-111.134  14.04 LTS (Trusty): linux-3.13.0-140.189  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-140.189  17.04 is end-of-life and won’t be patched for either Meltdown or Spectre  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000227.html  Updates for Ubuntu 12.04 ESM are in progress, and
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> will be available for Canonical’s Ubuntu Advantage customers.  UA customers should reach out to Canonical support for access to candidate kernels:  https://www.ubuntu.com/esm  https://support.canonical.com/  We intend to promote the candidate kernels to the -security/-updates pocket for General Availability (GA) on Monday, January 22, 2018.  There is a corresponding intel-microcode update for many Intel CPUs, as well as an eventual amd64-microcode updat
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> that will also need to be applied in order to fully mitigate Spectre.  In the interest of full disclosure, we understand from Intel that there are currently known issues with the intel-microcode binary:  https://newsroom.intel.com/news/firmware-updates-and-initial-performance-data-for-data-center-systems/  Canonical QA and Hardware Certification teams are engaged in extensive, automated and manual testing of these kernels and the Intel microcode kernel
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> updates on Ubuntu certified hardware, and Ubuntu certified public clouds.  The primary focus is on regression testing and security effectiveness.   We are actively investigating Google’s “Retpoline” toolchain-based approach, which requires rebuilding Ubuntu binaries but reduce performance impact of the mitigations.  For your reference, the following links explain how to enable Ubuntu’s Proposed repositories, and how to file Linux kernel bugs:
[12:55] <UbuntuMY> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs  The most up-to-date information will continue to be available at:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown  You can find the official Canonical statement here: https://ubu.one/uSpectre  Canonical