[11:33] <spazmi> llutz: yea I know it's only a warning.. but it is annoying :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> flodin: clean install or upgrade?
[11:33] <bnv> I can't configure that properly. without fglrx it works well wit the opensource driver but i can't control the brightness there
[11:33] <spazmi> ActionParsnip: the links didn't help.. I already tried what was in them :)
[11:33] <flodin> ActionParsnip: clean install
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> flodin: how about if you run:  dpkg -l | less      is it double listed there?
[11:34] <bnv> and with fglrx it can't work, because if I do the proper configuration in Catalyst it wont be applied
[11:35] <llutz> spazmi: apt-cache policy language-pack-sv|grep -i insta
[11:35] <ulrich> dcSala: Hmm... I think it's a bug... I will try to find out how I can display all messages that go over dbus. Perhaps i can see some comunication between totem and unity. But i do not know too much about dbus...
[11:35] <bnv> so with fglrx i have a cloned desktop not an extended one
[11:35] <flodin> ActionParsnip: no... but it also doesn't list all packages that I can see in aptitude
[11:36] <bnv> Are there any solution for my problem?
[11:36] <AFD> ActionParsnip: the repair + unp did the trick. thanks again ;)
[11:36] <Duelisti> How do install themeselector for Ubuntu 11.10, Gnome Shell?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> flodin: those are the packages you have installed...
[11:36] <spazmi> llutz: Installed(none)
[11:36] <Duelisti> Or is there some other wayt o install the theme "nord"?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> AFD: np man. Unp is awesome
[11:36] <llutz> spazmi: sudo apt-get install language-pack-sv
[11:36] <flodin> ActionParsnip: i see
[11:37] <dhruvasagar> Hi, can someone help me with mpd ?
[11:37] <spazmi> llutz: that seemed to do it...
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> flodin: aptitude is a text frontend. dpkg does the work
[11:38] <spazmi> llutz: now it only complains about LC_CFLAGS :P
[11:38] <ulrich> ubuntu_: Hi. The Problem is not necessarily caused by the last message you see on the screen. It can be something completly different.
[11:38] <llutz> spazmi: how do you expect localization to work if you didn't install it? ;)
[11:38] <spazmi> llutz: eh soory.. LC_CTYPE
[11:38] <bnv> plz help me
[11:38] <dhruvasagar> bnv: what's the problem ?
[11:38] <spazmi> llutz: true that :P
[11:38] <BlueEagle> bnv: You may want to read up on xinerama.
[11:38] <bnv> Are there anyone who uses a dual monitor setup with ati radeon HD5770 under 11.10?
[11:39] <flodin> ActionParsnip: i think aptitude actually does more than just invoke dpkg, but that's beside the point
[11:39] <ulrich> ubuntu_: Do you have any means of accessing the system? /var/log/dmesg could provide very useful information...
[11:39] <ubuntu_> ulrich: so what can i do? i think it is the lightdm?
[11:39] <llutz> spazmi: set in /etc/default/llocale: LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8 and LC_MESSAGES=POSIX                          that should work after relogin
[11:40] <spazmi> llutz: was already there
[11:40] <Kingsy> since upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 for reason my internet doesnt work without typing dhclient eth0 after boot..  how do I configure it so it works automatically?
[11:40] <bnv> BlueEagle: yeah, xinerama. I can't configure that until I did'nt set the display manager tab correctly in CCC. I have a problem with the Multi display tab int that
[11:40] <llutz> spazmi: odd, LANG=* should have affect LC_CTYPE too...
[11:41] <ubuntu_> ulrich: http://paste.ubuntu.com/709541/
[11:41] <bnv> If i try to choose the extendeded desktop and apply that it wont be applied
[11:41] <bnv> so nothing happens
[11:42] <spazmi> llutz: strange :(
[11:43] <keithb> Kingsy: have you tried editing the connection in the network manager applet?
[11:43] <ulrich> ubuntu_: Have you tried starting the system with the ubuntu install cd?
[11:43] <pramod> I am a student from India. I have installed ubuntu10.10 and tried to connect reliance net connect+ modem. but ubuntu is not recognizing the modem.what shall i do? any help please
[11:43] <Kingsy> keithb: I cant see the applet.. I am running xfce
[11:43] <ubuntu_> ulrich: how can i do this?
[11:44] <ulrich> ubuntu_: Do you have a install cd? Or perhaps memstick?
[11:44] <spazmi> llutz: LC_CTYPE is set to "UTF-8" and LC_ALL is empty
[11:44] <keithb> Kingsy: is network manager installed?
[11:44] <ubuntu_> ulrich: cd
[11:44] <Kingsy> keithb: umm I am not sure.. how do I tell ?
[11:44] <Scotty> hey all
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> pramod: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID for the device to help find guides
[11:45] <Scotty> is there a way to get pidgin to alert me of a new message in ubuntu 11.10?
[11:45] <Scotty> or is that a question which I should ask on their support channel :)
[11:45] <keithb> Kingsy: try "locate network-manager" at the command line and see if you get any files
[11:45] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I installed gnome-shell in 11.10 and when I go to Activities then the windows of all workspaces are showed, and with a bad position , for example top of the workspaces organicer, how can I fix this? is a bug?
[11:45] <Kingsy> keithb: basically I have just installed xfce cos I hated the new gnome and unity.. and gnome classic is just not supported.. so I went for xfce but now I don't have any of the applets etc
[11:46] <pramod> ActionParsnip, I did run lsusb. I got Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. EC1260 Wireless Data Modem HSD USB Card got detected in it
[11:46] <Duelisti> Using Gnome Shell. Trying to install theme "nord". Trying to change to it with the tweak tool. It says I don't have shell user-theme extension enabled. How do I enable it?
[11:46] <Kingsy> keithb: yeah I get plenty of files from that command
[11:47] <pramod> ActionParsnip, I did not understand how to see the help for that?
[11:47] <keithb> Kingsy: there is a configuration file /etc/init/network-manager.conf, if that is not installed edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[11:47] <Kingsy> keithb: yeah
[11:47] <ubuntu_> ulrich: im on live cd
[11:47] <Zuhaitz> Please
[11:47] <allu2> ubuntuone doesn't sync and tries to download files i already have...
[11:47] <em2000> How to set resolution with open source driver? I have radeon hd 3000 graphics. Tried to put xrandr into Init/Default like in 11.04, nothing happens. Tried to login in tty console ctr alt f1 it says authentication failure, so I can't run Xorg configure. Any ideas?
[11:47] <rod33> anyone playing world of tanks on ubuntu?
[11:47] <Kingsy> keithb: but with me using xfce.. should I uninstall this and install a xfce applet?
[11:47] <allu2> how could this be fixed?
[11:48] <keithb> Kingsy: not used xfce so not sure
[11:48] <IPGD> thx anyone now i can install apache2
[11:48] <Kingsy> keithb: ok np.. let me see if I can find one :)
[11:49] <rod33> anyone playing world of tanks on ubuntu (10.04 - )?
[11:50] <phlak_user> !repeat | rod33
[11:50] <phlak_user> IPGD: sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:50] <Kingsy> ok.. does anyone in here use xfce with ubuntu?
[11:50] <g3orge> can I use a (Mac OS Extended Journaled format-ed) hard drive with Ubuntu??
[11:50] <ulrich> ubuntu_: You could try starting the system on the cd. (It's perfectly independent from the harddrive) First point of interest is, if the life system on the cd comes up without problems. If so, something on your harddrive causes the trouble (in many cases it's the video driver). With the life cd you also have a running linux system at hand, that you can use to mount harddrives and read logs, which can help you to narrow down the trouble...
[11:51] <g3orge> I mean does it redognise it? Becasuse windows don't
[11:51] <phlak_user> g3orge: read-only
[11:51] <phlak_user> !hfs
[11:51] <switch10> Kingsy: I have.  What's your quetion?
[11:51] <Anubis> how do i prevent grun to display a graphic screen instead of console screen ?
[11:51] <g3orge> are you sure phlak_user? is there an program to enable write ??
[11:52] <Scotty> hmm
[11:52] <phlak_user> g3orge: not on journalled hfs systems ( you need to reformat with journalling turned off in the mac)
[11:52] <ubuntu_> ulrich:  i am on the live cd its running without problems.
[11:52] <nameless`> hello
[11:52] <antiphysicist> hi, is it possible to delete a root level folder on a usb hard drive and so render it unusable? for what other reason would an external usb be visible in gparted but not mountable/pop up in places
[11:52] <nameless`> is there any equivalent of the comamnd setpci to retrieve information from a pci bus ?
[11:53] <Kingsy> switch10: well .. since I have switched from gnome to xfce, all of the applets and things I had installed don't work anymore.. what did you do? is there a package you install that installs all of the packages you need? like network managers etc? did you uninstall all of the old gnome packages?
[11:53] <keithb> Kingsy: try executing nm-connection-editor from a command line in an xfce session
[11:53] <Scotty> what is a nice taskbar for 11.10?
[11:53] <nameless`> i know how to "set" a specific value for a specific bus (setpci -s ...) but i'd like to get this information first
[11:53] <g3orge> plipsky
[11:53] <dc5ala> nameless`, lspci?
[11:54] <g3orge> phlak_user: so, if it's journaled I can only read, and if not I can write as well... ??
[11:54] <Kingsy> keithb: that worked.. but there are no connections in the wired section.. which makes no sense.. saying as though I am connected with a wire talking to you right now
[11:54] <switch10> Kingsy: gnome packages should all work in xfce.  Which applets and programs specifically?
[11:55] <Kingsy> switch10: well the network manager no longer appears in the top panel
[11:55] <keithb> Kingsy: yes but your connection is not managed by Network Manager, you should be able to add a default now
[11:56] <Scotty> /etc/network/interfaces ;)
[11:56] <Kingsy> keithb: ok.. so I added a connection.. but its not going to use it..
[11:56] <ubuntu_> ulrich: what can i do ?
[11:56] <jnns> Hi, I have a huge problem: after updating to Oneiric the keyboards stops working right after logging in via lightdm
[11:56] <vyadhaka> can btrfs be used for /boot?
[11:57] <phlak_user> g3orge: yes; look here -> http://somethingkindawierd.com/blog/computers/linux-computers/08/2009/readwrite-to-hfs-on-ubuntu/
[11:57] <jatt> btrfs is experimental no
[11:57] <keithb> Kingsy: shut down your manually stated net connection and then ask network manager to start it
[11:57] <phlak_user> g3orge: though its a little dated
[11:57] <switch10> Kingsy: You are using nm-applet?
[11:57] <Kingsy> switch10: I am now.. but it doesnt appear in the panel.. I have to start it manually with the console
[11:57] <keithb> Kingsy: manually started that is
[11:58] <switch10> Kingsy: ah, Its in your list of startup applications?
[11:58] <ulrich> ubuntu_: perhaps --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery can help you?
[11:58] <Kingsy> keithb: umm how would you shut down the manualy started connection? and after that how would you tell network manager to start the one I just added...
[11:58] <Kingsy> switch10: tbh I don't know, I literally just installed 11.10 and xfce..
[11:58] <RobinJ> Can anyone tell me in wich package the software sources dialog is located?
[11:59] <nameless`> dc5ala: nop, for instance, i have to set the value of the brightness with the command setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00
[11:59] <nameless`> dc5ala: i'd like to get the number of F4.B before setting its value
[11:59] <switch10> Kingsy: find startup applications in one of your menus and add it.  I don't know exactly where to find it these days as I no longer use ubuntu.  Maybe someone else can help you find it.
[12:00] <keithb> Kingsy: well you could simply reboot, when you create your connection, select connect automatically and NM will do so
[12:00] <g3orge> Thank you
[12:00] <Kingsy> keithb: well NM might not even bet getting run on startup.. how do I make sure?
[12:00] <dc5ala> nameless`, that setpci is also for querying it seems, from manpage
[12:00] <Zuhaitz> Mutter is not in the gnome-shell metapackage of Ubuntu 11.10, that should be fixed, I have experience problems with compiz under Gnome shell of Gnome 3
[12:01] <switch10> Kingsy: the only way is to add it to your startup applications.
[12:01] <nameless`> dc5ala: oh you're right ! thank you
[12:01] <keithb> Kingsy: I suspect it is as it is part of the system initialisation scripts
[12:01] <switch10> Kingsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:01] <christian__> hey guys... i need some help :(
[12:02] <dc5ala> nameless`, no problem, seems like just need to name it
[12:02] <john32> quit
[12:02] <Kingsy> switch10: xfce doesnt have a system->startup applications
[12:02] <Kingsy> or system->session
[12:02] <RobinJ> Can anyone tell me in wich package the software sources dialog is located?
[12:02] <keithb> switch10: that would only create the connection when you log in to xfce, better to get it up when the system boots which is what NM does automatically
[12:03] <christian__> does somebody know the problem with strcmp-sss3.S  and segementation fault ? please
[12:03] <Kingsy> keithb: I agree.. but where are the system startup scripts?
[12:03] <christian__> it seems like its a bug in ubuntu or ubuntu specific libs....
[12:03] <dimitri> i have canon lbp5100 and some problem to use it on ubuntu 11.10. someone help me please  ?
[12:04] <christian__> i will send the one who help me 2 cookies
[12:04] <keithb> Kingsy: /etc/init.d but it has probably been converted to an upstart job
[12:04] <christian__> one choclate and one vanilia
[12:04] <Kingsy> keithb: ... no idea
[12:04] <Kingsy> keithb: yeah there is a network-manager in init.d
[12:05] <christian__> no one ?
[12:05] <dc5ala> christian__, just try to describe your problem
[12:05] <keithb> Kingsy: create your automatic connection in NM and reboot, you can't be any worse off than you are now :)
[12:05] <christian__> ok.. i have a working program (and souce) i compile it without any errors warnings
[12:06] <christian__> but when i start the program, it recieves a segfault .. even if i call it without args, it only prints the usage message
[12:06] <christian__> it recieves a segfault
[12:06] <Kingsy> keithb: I have already tried that.. it doesnt work.. nm isnt running on startup..
[12:06] <Kingsy> I will try again tho
[12:06] <Kingsy> brb
[12:06] <dimitri> help me...... my printer canon don't run on 11.10 after upgrade.... with 11.04 it run
[12:07] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to generate 32 bit binaries on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit. I installed ia32-libs but still get this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709574/ when i run the command "g++ -m32 test.cpp". What is possibly wrong? Am I missing something?
[12:07] <christian__> #0  __strcmp_ssse3 () at ../sysdeps/i386/i686/multiarch/strcmp-ssse3.S:77
[12:07] <christian__> does anyone know the issue with this function ?!
[12:07] <christian__> or libboost-serialization
[12:08] <christian__> it must be a bug in some of the libs... since the program works fine on other machines (not ubuntu machines
[12:08] <iceroot> !bug | christian__
[12:08] <christian__> i know ubottu but i still dont know where exactly the problem is...:/
[12:08] <Slartibart> When I run virtualbox I'm able to connect to the apache server on my ubuntu host using the ip adress for the local network, 192.168... Problem is this adress changes as I connect to different local networks, home, work, etc.. Is there a way to automatically reroute requests to to the correct local ip? Suppose I use some adress like <IP_ADDRESS> and the host reroutes it to 192.168.some.thing?
[12:09] <christian__> i need this program for my bachelor thesis
[12:09] <Kingsy> keithb: ok.. that didnt work..
[12:09] <christian__> i got it  from the university
[12:09] <christian__> so it should work fine...
[12:09] <ubuntu_> ulrich: how can this help?
[12:09] <Kingsy> when I start dhclient eth0 it says that I am invoking a script that has been converted to an upstart job..
[12:09] <Kingsy> keithb: not really sure what that means
[12:09] <keithb> Kingsy: are you sure you set the connection up properly in NM?
[12:10] <Kingsy> keithb: yup .. pretty certain..
[12:10] <dnivra> Kingsy: try running "ifconfig eth0". I think the IP address will be assigned. I see the same behaviour here.
[12:10] <Kingsy> keithb: well lets find out.. can I use ps to see if NM is running?
[12:10] <Kingsy> keithb: if its not then we know that its not getting that far
[12:10] <keithb> Kingsy: upstart is just the way the system runs its init scripts in the right order
[12:11] <Kingsy> keithb: hmm so how do I check to see if NM is running?
[12:11] <keithb> Kingsy: NM runs at startup and should fire dhclient up for you
[12:11] <Kingsy> keithb: well it doesnt seem to be workin
[12:12] <virusz> i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem
[12:12] <keithb> instead of using dhclient eth0, presumably as root from a shell, try bringing the connection up in nm-connection-editor
[12:12] <dnivra> I am trying to generate 32 bit binaries on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit. I installed ia32-libs but still get this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709574/ when i run the command "g++ -m32 test.cpp". What is possibly wrong? Am I missing something?
[12:13] <Kingsy> keithb: ok, once you have brought a connection up using dhclient eth0 .. how do you bring it down manually?
[12:13] <virusz> everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10
[12:14] <keithb> Kingsy: I think you can just kill the process
[12:14] <genupulas> Kingsy: i think by using ifdown etho
[12:14] <switch10> Kingsy: or ifconfing eth0 down
[12:14] <keithb> Kingsy: yes, better to try ifdown eth0 first
[12:14] <virusz> i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem..everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10
[12:15] <Varazir> Is there any script or howto  to make debs from source files ( cloned from github ) ?
[12:16] <Varazir> a compile-to-deb-pkg script  :D
[12:16] <dc5ala> Varazir, there's a quick&dirty method with checkinstall
[12:16] <jrib> !package | Varazir
[12:16] <jrib> erm
[12:16] <jrib> !packaging | Varazir
[12:16] <Varazir> :)
[12:17] <virusz> i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem..everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10
[12:17] <Kingsy> keithb: ok .. that didnt work.. I am not sure what you mean by "bring up the connection with NM" in network manager you can create a new connection.. but there is no connect or use button or anything..
[12:17] <Varazir> thanks
[12:17] <genupulas> Kingsy: you can do that from your networkapplet at right top panel
[12:18] <christian__> anyone here uses libboost-serialization ??
[12:18] <Kingsy> genupulas: I dont have that..
[12:18] <Kingsy> genupulas: I am using xfce which doesnt have a nm applet
[12:18] <keithb> Kingsy: sorry, you are right, you need the applet to do that :(
[12:18] <Kingsy> keithb: ah.. so I need to find a way of installing the NM applet on xfce
[12:18] <Kingsy> cool
[12:18] <keithb> Kingsy: does the applet start with nm-applet in a shell?
[12:19] <virusz> i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem..everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10
[12:19] <Kingsy> keithb: no, it says in the terminal its running but nothing happens
[12:20] <genupulas> Kingsy: ok do this go to click at that pane Panel->panel preference->item in that add indicator applet
[12:20] <keithb> Kingsy: the other thing you can try is to execute "start network-manager" as root in a shell
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> virusz: maybe ocelot not recognizing usb modem drivers?
[12:20] <virusz> i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem..everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10..http://pastebin.com/T5MQu4t4 < output that will make me connected...but its happens only once in awhile...http://pastebin.com/LxKMCcqh < if i got connected...how can i achieve this?..tq in advance
[12:20] <Kingsy> genupulas: there is no "indicator applet"
[12:21] <virusz> lotuspsychje : i cant get connected to my usb modem..info from dmesg|tail http://pastebin.com/MqGhMVn2 < once i plug the usb modem..everything seems fine before in 11.04 but not in 11.10..http://pastebin.com/T5MQu4t4 < output that will make me connected...but its happens only once in awhile...http://pastebin.com/LxKMCcqh < if i got connected...how can i achieve this?..tq in advance
[12:21] <genupulas> indicator plugin Kingsy
[12:22] <Kingsy> genupulas: is this something I need to install?
[12:23] <genupulas> kingsy just add it to panel from items tab , to add click at + button and then look for indicator olugin
[12:23] <genupulas> plugin*
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> virusz: this modem you using to get on the internet?
[12:23] <Kingsy> genupulas: there is nothing in the add items list that is called indicator anything
[12:24] <virusz> lotuspsychje : yup after at least 15 times rebooting...then i got connected
[12:24] <keithb> Kingsy: here is a copy of my NM ethernet connection: http://pastebin.com/6R9LsSNs it goes in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> virusz: eth cable or wifi?
[12:25] <keithb> Kingsy: obviusly you would need to alter a lot of things
[12:25] <virusz> lotuspsychje: usb modem
[12:25] <Kingsy> keithb: thanks but I kinda wanna get my nm-applet working anyways..
[12:25] <kiffa> your mom is a windows whore
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> virusz: i mean its not a wifi modem right
[12:25] <keithb> Kingsy: yes, would be better. gtg soon so good luck
[12:25] <Kingsy> keithb: thanks for you help
[12:26] <keithb> Kingsy: you're welcome
[12:26] <kiffa> your mom is still a windows whore
[12:26] <virusz> lotuspsychje: nope
[12:26] <Diaoer> hello
[12:26] <virusz> lotuspsychje:its not wifi modem
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> virusz: so all modem light work as before too?
[12:27] <xaax> hi
[12:27] <virusz> its keep blinking...and maybe it will disconnect after this..so fragile...and hard to get connected again
[12:28] <Diaoer> witch is the grub config files in 11.10?
[12:28] <Diaoer> which
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> virusz: might be interesting to pastebin network manager/syslog logs, also hardware listing lspci
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Diaoer: grub.cfg
[12:28] <luca__> dear friends, there is the new Community Council
[12:28] <virusz> lotuspsychje: can u explain more?not quite get it..
[12:29] <virusz> sorry
[12:29] <Diaoer> Monkey Dust i can`t find it in the /boot/grub/
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Diaoer: type locate grub.cfg
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> virusz: your system logs will show errors maybe, so pastebin network manager problems (drom your system logs)
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> -from
[12:29] <Diaoer> ok,thx MonkeyDust
[12:30] <claudiuvlad> radiotray  doesnt work anymore in oneiric
[12:30] <virusz> ok..hold on
[12:30] <genupulas> kingsy ping
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> virusz: what modem brand?
[12:31] <virusz> CSL U1-TFV3 with memory slot vid:1c9e pid:9800-longsheer su9800
[12:31] <Dmole> wiki seems to indicate that XTS is the best available mode of disk encryption thoughts? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software#Modes_of_operation)
[12:31] <genupulas> Kingsy: ping
[12:31] <vandenini> after update to oneiric, I can't see lightdm login screen...any ideas?
[12:31] <Kingsy> genupulas: ping?
[12:32] <genupulas> Kingsy:  please open your synaptics , i wanna help you in anyway
[12:32] <Kingsy> genupulas: I am running 11.10 it doesnt have synaptic
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> virusz: see if this thread can help you? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359223
[12:33] <stefuNz> hi. how can i reduce the size of the swap partition and increase the size of the main partition from within ubuntu ?
[12:33] <genupulas> open any package manager
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> stefuNz: not, you have to use a live cd / usb
[12:33] <stefuNz> dang :D ok thanks !
[12:33] <Night-hacks> is it possible to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 from CD ?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> stefuNz: you cannot resize a mounted partition
[12:34] <Dmole> Night-hacks: probably by adding the CD as a repo yes
[12:34] <luca__> do you know the compositon of the community??
[12:34] <christian__> where do i find in which repository the libboost1.42 package is ?
[12:34] <meerkats> i just downloaded skype from software sources, where did it install the access icon?
[12:34] <Night-hacks> Dmole: any resource ?
[12:34] <JanC> Night-hacks: only to some degree, and only with the alternative installer CD
[12:34] <genupulas> i am also using xubuntu 11.10 but i do have synaptic
[12:34] <meerkats> im using the fallback that looks like ubuntu classic
[12:34] <virusz> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/f7zjkufK < syslog
[12:35] <oCean> luca__: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-irc channel, this is for technical support only
[12:35] <genupulas> Kingsy:  i am using 11.10 xubuntu but i have synaptic
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> virusz: see my previous link
[12:35] <virusz> tq for the link...i will take a look at it now
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:35] <Dmole> Night-hacks: what?
[12:35] <virusz> ok tq
[12:35] <PrivateReese> hey guys maybe someone can help with this problem, yust installed ubuntu 11.10 and in there the graphics driver from nvidia. After reboot system only shows up *Checking Battery state and nothing happens before something with System V FAILED, some ideas please?
[12:35] <Night-hacks> Dmole: any structure or resource that has describe the steps ?
[12:35] <Kingsy> genupulas: oh yeah sorry.. I have it now.. open
[12:36] <Dmole> Night-hacks: ah, looking....
[12:36] <christian__> why are in my ubuntu repository only the 1.40 boost versions ?? where do i get the repo for the new 1.47? :(
[12:36] <JanC> Night-hacks: just put the alternative installer CD in the drive and you will get a pup-up asking to add it as a repository
[12:36] <Dmole> Night-hacks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#CD-ROM.2BAC8-DVD
[12:37] <prod_> Hi all, can i ask for oneiric help here now?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> virusz: syslog seems without errors
[12:37] <virusz> lotuspsychje: now im already connected and my usb modem is recognized by nm..but not for too long...
[12:38] <dimitri> i have a problem to configure usblp0 with 11.10 . someone help me please ?
[12:38] <virusz> after it get disconnected it will show the same error as my previous pastebin file after plug my modem
[12:38] <genupulas> kingsy i sending a file that have my applets lit accept it
[12:38] <ghabit> Hello. How I can set up windows as default OS @ grub?
[12:38] <hylian> is there any adverse side effects to installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.10?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> virusz: when connection gets lost check all your logs fro strange errors
[12:39] <jatt> hylian: it doesn't work with some ati cards
[12:39] <genupulas> Kingsy:  you there ?
[12:39] <Kingsy> genupulas: sorry yeah 1 sec
[12:39] <prod_> I cant get lightdm to launch a desktop on oneiric
[12:39] <genupulas> Kingsy:  hmm
[12:39] <prod_> I have a ati card, but i dont use in on linux
[12:39] <dmhouse> Hi everyone. I've just upgraded to 11.10, and now my laptop won't boot. It gets to the stage where it starts printing messages to the screen as it starts stuff, but it gets to a given stage and then starts again. Booting into previous linux versions yields the same thing. I can boot into recovery mode.
[12:39] <virusz> ok..i will...tq lotuspsychje
[12:39] <dmhouse> Does anyone have any ideas as to what I could try?
[12:40] <Kingsy> genupulas: argh I cant get irssi to accept the send
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> virusz: another modem thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1318529
[12:40] <genupulas> kingsy aah . ok
[12:41] <genupulas> Kingsy:  wait ... i will be back with another link
[12:41] <Kingsy> kk
[12:41] <dmhouse> One thing to note is that my computer may have turned off during the upgrade. I don't know why, but when I came back to it, it was off
[12:41] <erkan^> hello, i use xubuntu 11.10 , where can I found "make a main menu"?
[12:42] <virusz> ok...i will take a look at it now..is it because the kernel modules cant load the specific driver that i needed?
[12:42] <prod_> Does anyone know why oneirics lightdm wont start my desktop? I have a nvidia and primary GPU and ATI as secondary for xen HVM PCIpassthru
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Kingsy: i use irssi, but didn't follow, what's the prob
[12:42] <virusz> lotuspsychje: ok...i will take a look at it now..is it because the kernel modules cant load the specific driver that i needed?
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> virusz: my guess would be driver related yes
[12:42] <hylian> jatt, thanks for the info. so what do I look for in the software center?
[12:42] <Kingsy> MonkeyDust: naa it doesnt matter.. just a stupid dcc issue
[12:43] <virusz> oh ok..
[12:43] <computerx> I'm trying "find -type l -exec readlink {} \; | xargs rm" but the filenames have spaces in, which rm is treating as separate filenames. Can I quote the parameter to rm somehow?
[12:43] <Mogga> i just upgraded to 10.04.3 and my virtual machines are hosed - inbound network is not working and block level mounted volumes that are on the host machine are mixed up - data looks fine but it's from a different volume!!
[12:43] <jatt> hylian: I installed xfce because neither gnome nor unity was working with my ati card
[12:43] <Mogga> is it something to do with virtio??
[12:43] <llutz> computerx: "{}"
[12:44] <hylian> i logged out, and then chose 2d, and then logged back in. it worked. then i reboot, and I am b ack in regular unity again, what did I do wrong?
[12:44] <dmhouse> computerx: juse use -delete instead of xargs rm
[12:44] <prod_> Jatt: with success?
[12:44] <virusz> i dont know what to look at anymore...once its connected everything seems fine, but once it disconnected everything seems bad..
[12:44] <john32> does anyone else notice some weird sparkling shit on the front greeter screen
[12:44] <jrib> computerx: use -print0 on find and -0 on xargs
[12:44] <genupulas> Kingsy:  Ping
[12:44] <john32> and when they type things in on their keyboard you get more and more of it
[12:44] <jatt> prod_: sure xfce works nicely now here
[12:44] <yakc> is it normal that with 11.04 i had like 30% cpu usage and now it is over 70% with same apps running :(
[12:44] <computerx> xargs isn't the problem. "{}" doesn't change anything. rm is receiving the command from xargs as multiple parameters
[12:45] <dmhouse> computerx, use the -delete argument to find
[12:45] <prod_> jatt: thanx this is good news for me
[12:45] <saedelaere> hi
[12:45] <dmhouse> computerx, or do as jrib says
[12:45] <john32> anyone else with a NVIDIA card noticing artefacting on the login screen
[12:45] <Kingsy> genupulas: yo
[12:45] <computerx> dmhouse, jrib: Since I'm trying to delete the symlink destination, not the symlink, can I do that with find?
[12:45] <saedelaere> when I build a package and get a warning message like this: "found change data where expected next heading or eof", is this a problem. Is my changelog file incorrect?
[12:45] <jrib> computerx: yes?
[12:45] <computerx> I couldn't find a "delete destination" option for rm
[12:46] <genupulas> Kingsy:  compare with your installed list ?  if anyhting is missing then install it . https://min.us/mbbXqimzof
[12:46] <jrib> computerx: I'm suggesting -print0 added to the find options and -0 added to xargs options
[12:46] <virusz> lotuspsychje: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules < is it correct if im reloading new rules and refreshing it with this command
[12:46] <genupulas> Kingsy:  hey that "?" is typo mistake dont mind
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> virusz: not sure bout that sorry
[12:46] <llutz> virusz: yes
[12:46] <jrib> computerx: just do the readlink on the other end (as part of xargs) if that's a problem
[12:47] <Kingsy> genupulas: are you using xfce on 11.10 right now? i.e that screenshot is xfce?
[12:47] <virusz> oh ok tq to both of you...
[12:47] <genupulas> kingsy , yes i am using xubuntu 11.10
[12:47] <genupulas> yes man
[12:47] <Kingsy> genupulas: see I am not.. I am using ubuntu with xfce install manually
[12:47] <computerx> Good thinking, I'll try that jrib
[12:48] <genupulas> kingsy no problem , just look for it , if you got it no issues
[12:48] <genupulas> kngsy all the best
[12:48] <Kingsy> genupulas: I am still unsure about what I need and don't need
[12:48] <jrib> computerx: or I guess you can just do everything in -exec too :P
[12:49] <synroda> hi all
[12:49] <jrib> computerx: mixing -exec and xargs actually kind of seems strange to me, though I guess it will work
[12:49] <computerx> Well, it's awkward because I'm trying to work with the symlink destination, and the way xargs passes the parameters
[12:49] <Kingsy> genupulas: I have indicator-appmenu installed.. which is the one you have highlighted
[12:50] <synroda> can you help me? I've just installed ubuntu 11.10 and i want to install emerald now. But when I put "apt-get install emerald" it say that package didn't found.
[12:50] <alkisg> if-up.d scripts don't seem to get called in Oneiric, is that a known problem? Has anyone tested if they run for him?
[12:50] <synroda> What can i do that fix it?
[12:50] <genupulas> kingsy ; open your synaptic , in the search box type indicator then look what i have installed and what you have not and install that
[12:50] <Kingsy> synroda: I wouldnt bother using emerald... just use metacity
[12:50] <Azzmodan> I have a theme question, somewhere in the past I used the appearance dialog to change the color of my windows, but now I want to reset them to normal in 10.11 and I can't seem to find out how
[12:51] <jrib> computerx: this is a typical trick: « find -type l -exec bash -c 'echo "$1"' _ '{}'  \; » but you can also do what we thought of earlier (just getting rid of -exec part and only using xargs)
[12:51] <computerx> Got it with: find -type l -print0 | xargs -0I : readlink :
[12:51] <synroda> But i think that emerald is little better than metacity.
[12:52] <computerx> The -I option is the key, it seems
[12:52] <johnno> Hey there
[12:52] <dc5ala> synroda, it's also a matter which is better supported ;)
[12:52] <dnivra> hello. I am running Ubuntu 11.10 on my sony vaio laptop. My touchpad isn't working now-used to in the previous version. What is probably wrong and how could it be fixed?
[12:52] <dmhouse> jrib, maybe use -exec 'rm $(readlink {})'
[12:53] <johnno> I need some help with my Oneiric upgrade...anyone interested?
[12:53] <yacoov> koshka myau )
[12:53] <computerx> dmhouse: The problem with that, is bash resolving the $() subshell too early
[12:53] <dmhouse> computerx, even with the single quotes/
[12:53] <dmhouse> computerx, sadly I'm not on my linux pc now so I can't try this out
[12:53] <computerx> With single quotes, find doesn't run it properly at all
[12:53] <jrib> dmhouse, computerx: I bet the nicest way is to have find do all the work and eliminate readlink
[12:54] <computerx> jrib: Yeah, I'm a big fan of find doing all the hard work for me
[12:54] <johnno> I've got networking working fine from the Live CD, but not from my HDD boot. I upgraded from Natty and am using a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Broadcom 4311 card.
[12:54] <dmhouse> computerx, jrib: find -L perhaps
[12:55] <dmhouse> find -L <test> -delete
[12:55] <computerx> Well, I resolved it in a round-about way with: find -type l -exec readlink {} \; | xargs -I : rm :
[12:55] <computerx> I'll need to do this again, so I'll investigate -L then, thanks :)
[12:56] <johnno> Can anyone help me get my networking back in shape? I've got networking working fine from the Live CD, but not from my HDD boot. I upgraded from Natty and am using a Dell Inspiron 1501 with a Broadcom 4311 card.
[12:56] <Koshka> Hi. I upgraded to 11.10 (which I'm seriously starting to regret) and with that, running any php script causes warning about being unable to load sqlite.so - even when script has nothing to do with sqlite. Anybody seen this handled somehow already?
[12:56] <dmhouse> Hi everyone. I've just upgraded to 11.10, and now my laptop won't boot. It gets to the stage where it starts printing messages to the screen as it starts stuff, but it gets to a given stage and then starts again. Booting into previous linux versions yields the same thing. I can boot into recovery mode.
[12:56] <dmhouse> Any ideas?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> dmhouse: try rebooting in Recovery Mode and choose Repair
[12:57] <dmhouse> MonkeyDust: recovery mode just drops me into a root shell
[12:57] <throstur> hello there, I'm having a problem with installing ubuntu. I used the windows installer but it won't boot right.
[12:58] <throstur> where can I get proper help or documentation on getting ubuntu to boot?
[12:58] <bucaneiro> gcc 4.6.x has problems
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> dmhouse: it should give you a menu
[12:58] <slavsan> hi all
[12:58] <xc> ciao
[12:58] <johnno> OK....sounds like people are having more problems than me. I'll head off and try and sort this one out myself. Night all.
[12:59] <dmhouse> MonkeyDust: I'll try it again and see. But it didn't last time. I'll see if dmesg says anything too
[12:59] <armence> Anyone here managed to get xmonad+gnome2 to work on ubuntu 11.10 oneiric ocelot?
[13:00] <dmhouse> This will involve rebooting so I'll be off IRC, anyone got any other ideas before I try?
[13:00] <jrib> computerx: investigate: printf '%l'
[13:00] <throstur> I get wubildr corrupt or missing when i try and boot from Ubuntu
[13:00] <throstur> but when I boot XP it gives me a choice again, winXP from C:\ or Ubuntu
[13:01] <cabuloso> hi, what version of python does the new ubuntu come with by default?
[13:01] <zamba> after upgrading to 11.10, but wireless network has become crappy.. i'm using the iwl3945 driver and i see the following in my syslog all the time: ieee80211 phy0: Hardware restart was requested
[13:01] <throstur> and Ubuntu just goes into shell
[13:01] <zamba> and iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Queue 2 stuck for 2000 ms.
[13:01] <chroot> do you grub ?
[13:01] <chroot> in grub.d , there is about serveval files , alright?
[13:01] <throstur> chroot:  are you asking me?
[13:02] <chroot> and this file is bash script?
[13:02] <chroot> yes, can you explain?
[13:02] <jac0bz1> Is there any way of customizing the top bar in gnome 3 (ubuntu 11.10) ? I dont like that the date is in the middle, and i dont like the activity button on the far left side, and i dont like the icon stretching of the active window
[13:02] <throstur> I'm new to linux, I am on 2 computers, i can try booting while yout alk to me if you want
[13:02] <throstur> I
[13:02] <throstur> I'm just trying to dualboot Ubuntu with XP
[13:03] <cabuloso> can someone using 11.10 type python in the console and tell me what version it is? =)
[13:04] <OerHeks> what is your version, cabuloso ?
[13:04] <jatt> Python 2.7.2+
[13:04] <jrib> !info python | cabuloso
[13:04] <chroot> cabuloso, dpkg  -l python
[13:04] <OerHeks> sounds up to date
[13:05] <gwb> 11.10 upgrade problem:  Many icons missing from the Launcher.  How can I edit the Launcher to find the icons?  PS: on a newly created login id, all is well, but on an old one not so much
[13:05] <jrib> or read the release notes for oneiric :)
[13:05] <cabuloso> OerHeks, i'm not using 11.10, i wanted to make sure it's not python 3 before upgrading
[13:06] <Sidewinder1> throstur, I just signed on so I'm not sure exactly who's helping you; in either event, one link which I have found invaluable and gives many "step by steps" is : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:06] <cabuloso> thanks jrib and chroot
[13:06] <Sidewinder1> throstur, I hope it helps. :-)
[13:06] <throstur> thanks Sidewinder1 , it doesn't feel like anyone hasreally been helping so far:)
[13:06] <cabuloso> tks jatt =)
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> throstur, OK, check out the link, it should answer just about any question you may have.
[13:07] <cabuloso> !info ruby | cabuloso
[13:07] <cabuloso> !info ruby19 | cabuloso
[13:07] <cabuloso> !info ruby1.9 | cabuloso
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> throstur, Just stay FAR away from WUBI!
[13:08] <throstur> why? It seems to be the only solution left!
[13:08] <chroot> WUBI is poisnous
[13:08] <lunitik> !info ruby1.9.1
[13:08] <throstur> how can I install ubuntu without wubi
[13:09] <lunitik> throstur: get the ISO and burn it to disk
[13:09] <jarno> Or usb mem stick
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> throstur: or use a usb stick
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> ^ +1 Wubi should be avoided, with all due respect to the developers, of course.
[13:09] <throstur> but I want to install ubuntu to drive partition E:
[13:09] <throstur> i have winxp on C:
[13:10] <lunitik> throstur: just format it and set up a dual boot... Ubuntu doesn't use DOS partitioning
[13:10] <cabuloso> !info ruby1.9.2 | cabuloso
[13:10] <Kre10s> hello. Whats the package called that contains the dbus C API development files?
[13:10] <cabuloso> !info ruby1.9.1 | cabuloso
[13:10] <throstur> lunitik: I'm not quite sure I am prepared to set up a dual boot without a comprehensive guide, can you recommend one?
[13:11] <lunitik> Kre10s: libdbus-1-dev probably
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> throstur: dual boot is the easiest way
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> throstur, This page will walk you through it: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing  Just remember to back up all data first; and if you'll be shrinking your NTFS partition, be sure to defragment it.
[13:12] <Kre10s> lunitik, looks like... wheres the 1 come from?
[13:12] <Mike``> Question: My "Right click > Create new file" templates are no longer installed after an upgrade to 11.10 is there a package that will recreate the defaults?
[13:12] <lunitik> throstur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot ... if you run into problems you can come here for help, of course
[13:12] <lunitik> Kre10s: No idea... heh
[13:12] <throstur> I formatted my E: partition for FAT32, should I reformat for NFTS?
[13:12] <lunitik> Kre10s: oh, it is version 1.4.14
[13:13] <lunitik> throstur: Ubuntu uses its own file system
[13:13] <nn52> what is the difference between the Ubuntu Live(890mb)  and Ubuntu DVD ( 1,5 gb)??
[13:13] <freakx> hi
[13:13] <lunitik> nmodprime: 600 mb of software
[13:13] <Mike``> lunitik, beat me to that one
[13:13] <Sidewinder1> throstur, Please read the links that you've been given; the short answer to your question is that the partition to which you plan to install ubuntu should be ext3 or ext4..
[13:14] <freakx> i've updated from 11.04, i've got nice classic look, and after update i have ugly dark without system and preferences ... how i can change it back?
[13:14] <throstur> thanks, i'll be afk working on this now
[13:14] <freakx> i mean ugly dark menu
[13:14] <yeats> throstur: just create free space on your hard drive - the guide lunitik sent you should give details on that
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> :D
[13:14] <Mike``> Is there a guide out there for embracing unity but restoring common functionality, like shell scripts on the toolbar?
[13:14] <Mogga> what is the command line tool to flash a NIC link light?
[13:15] <lunitik> freakx: if you prefer the lighter themed Ubuntu, right click desktop and Change Desktop Background... then look at the bottom for the theme changer
[13:15] <yeats> Sidewinder1: I overlooked what you sent ;-)
[13:15] <lunitik> yeats: he already has set aside a partition, but he is using Windows terminology to define it
[13:15] <cutiyar> how to go back to 11.4?
[13:15] <Kingsy> can someone give me som guidance on manually building packages? basically nm-applet isnt getting added to my notifaction area.. and I don't know why.. so someone said to rebuild the package with debug=full.. not really sure what I am doing so any help would be greatly appreciated.
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> throstur, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index  It's written by one of the Moderators of Ubuntuforums.org.
[13:16] <chadi> !kde
[13:16] <Companion> Kingsy, your simply screwed :O
[13:16] <yeats> lunitik: I see.
[13:16] <freakx> lunitik: but the old menu will come back? i use ubuntu classic without effects before
[13:16] <Kingsy> Companion: how so?
[13:16] <Companion> you can downgrade tho :O
[13:16] <freakx> i mean menu with system and preferences
[13:16] <Companion> brb shave
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> yeats, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:16] <lunitik> cutiyar: you cannot downgrade, you would need to reinstall 11.04 (year.month format) to use it again
[13:16] <Kingsy> lol
[13:16] <Mike``> My "Right click > Create new file" templates are no longer installed after an upgrade to 11.10 is there a package that will recreate the defaults?
[13:17] <yeats> Sidewinder1: excellent
[13:17] <lunitik> freakx: no, gnome2 has been dropped upstream
[13:17] <cutiyar> lunitik, not good news cauz iam really dissapointed with 11.10
[13:17] <Kingsy> I really really don't wanna wipe this and put xubuntu on for the sake of a bloody applet
[13:17] <lunitik> freakx: Xubuntu is quite similar, although it will be a little different to what you're used to.
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> yeats, I have always loved that site. :-)
[13:17] <nn52> Anyone know what is the difference between the Ubuntu Live(890mb)  and Ubuntu DVD ( 1,5 gb)??
[13:17] <lunitik> cutiyar: you probably should have looked into what was changing before upgrading then... I don't know what to tell you, sorry
[13:18] <yeats> Sidewinder1: I've seen individual pages from it, but didn't realize it was this comprehensive
[13:18] <freakx> i cant even move bars with lunched programs ...
[13:18] <cutiyar> lunitik, thank u
[13:18] <freakx> it's getting worse with every update :(
[13:18] <cutiyar> NO voice on playing music , whats prob?
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> yeats, Personally, I think that link should be listed in The Topic, above, so everyone joining this channel would see it.
[13:19] <lunitik> Kingsy: If you are apposed to Unity, you will have to, or continue using older software beyond support being offered
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> yeats, As I said, it's written and updated by one of the Mods of Ubuntuforums.org. :-)
[13:19] <christian__> please can someone help me to get libboost1.47 in the ubunu repositories?
[13:20] <throstur> as a new user, shouldn't I rather get ubuntu 10.04 instead of the new one?
[13:20] <christian__> or 1.42
[13:20] <yeats> Sidewinder1: agreed
[13:21] <christian__> i added maverick repository, but its not listed in there :(
[13:21] <Kingsy> lunitik: umm ok thanks.. I wonder what the best way of installing xubuntu would be? to minimize the amount of data/programs I will loose...
[13:21] <Mike``> is `gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop` Unity compatible?
[13:21] <jatt> you can install xfce over ubuntu
[13:21] <jatt> and then remove unity and gnome
[13:21] <jatt> well not gnome
[13:21] <Kingsy> jatt: I have done... but now I am having problems
[13:21] <jatt> but unity
[13:21] <bucaneiro> the gcc developers will have a long day
[13:22] <chadi> so gnome2 is not possible at all in oneiric?
[13:22] <Kingsy> like nm-applet is not being adding to xfce notifaction areas
[13:22] <lunitik> Kingsy: you can simply sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ... you will get a lot of duplication of tasks though (they make choices on apps that do not depend whole of gnome libs)
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> christian__: type apt-cache search libboost|less and see what you need
[13:22] <cutiyar> when tirning off ubuntu 11.10 every time ask to waoting network configuration , whats this ?
[13:22] <lunitik> chadi: no, because it isn't maintained upstream
[13:22] <jatt> chadi: only gnome 3
[13:22] <Kingsy> lunitik: yeah thats what I was thinking, how do I make sure I don't end up with double of everhthing.. I need a way of removing all of the old stuff with apt-get after it...
[13:22] <lunitik> christian__: it looks like 1.46.1 is the latest
[13:23] <chadi> is there a solution? I dislike both gnome3 and unity...
[13:23] <tzhuang> hey guys. is compiz still the manager for ocelot?
[13:23] <Kingsy> well brb.. I am gonna eat and think about what to do
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> chadi: use a different fork or distro
[13:23] <chadi> I think they're totally unproductive, unless there's something I do not see. Also, it's soo not touch screen friendly.
[13:23] <christian__> yes, but where do find the repository where the 1.46.1 is in ?
[13:23] <christian__> when i do apt-cache search... i only get lists of 1.40.0 versions
[13:23] <lunitik> Kingsy: as jatt said, you can simply install XFce - I really wouldn't recommend removing unity though because it will assist in future upgrades to have such metapackages around as ubuntu-desktop
[13:24] <glebihan> chadi, try kde, xfce, lxde, openbox or any other desktop environment of your liking...
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> christian__: with apt-cache policy
[13:24] <lunitik> Kingsy: you'd just pick xfce from the login screen instead of using the default
[13:24] <alokito> whats a good hardware monitor applet for unity?
[13:25] <cutiyar> when tirning off ubuntu 11.10 every time ask to waoting network configuration , whats this ?
[13:25] <christian__> W: Unable to locate package libboost-serialization1.46.1
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> !info libboost-serialization1.46.1
[13:26] <zromayn> hya: I just installed the new release 11.10 server and whenever I try either halting or shutting down the system, it would just get stuck in the "system is now halted" and the machine won't power off. has anybody seen this? If so, is there any solution available?
[13:26] <cutiyar> when tirning on ubuntu 11.10 every time ask to waoting network configuration , whats this ?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> christian__: its there. Try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libboost-serialization1.46.1
[13:26] <lunitik> cutiyar: I was reading about that issue... it is because they moved some stuff from /var to /run ... I haven't seen it though, so I'm not sure what the work around is... it is cuz you upgraded instead of a fresh install though, your configs haven't changed
[13:27] <scarleo> zromayn: How do you halt it?
[13:27] <Mike``> My "Right click > Create new file" templates are no longer installed after an upgrade to 11.10 is there a package that will recreate the defaults?
[13:27] <jatt> zromayn: yes I have seen it, I always needed to switch to a console with alt+f1, log in as root and then run poweroff
[13:27] <christian__> i did :( bbut i only have 1.40 in there
[13:27] <cutiyar> so whats solution?
[13:27] <cutiyar> lunitik,  so whats solution?
[13:27] <christian__> i guess i am missing some repositories
[13:27] <carestad> why is the combination of trackpoint and middle mouse button splitted into Button{2,4,5,6,7} ? makes the window resize plugin in compiz impossble to use :-(
[13:27] <zromayn> scarleo: from terminal, sudo halt now
[13:27] <christian__> in /etc/apt/source.list
[13:28] <christian__> btw i am using 10.04 LTS
[13:28] <maikls> hi all. was wondering - is it possible to install fresh ubuntu from another ubuntu installation without the cd or usb?
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> christian__: type apt-cache policy libboost*|grep archive
[13:28] <lunitik> cutiyar: trying to find it, hold on
[13:28] <Mike``> Is there a customization utility for unity?
[13:28] <zromayn> jatt: do you still have to do that?
[13:28] <cutiyar> lunitik, thank
[13:28] <yeats> christian__: then you might have to seek out a backport or PPA to get that version
[13:28] <christian__> W: Unable to locate package libboost*
[13:28] <christian__> yes thas what i am looking for
[13:28] <vevais> Hello
[13:29] <yeats> christian__: the link ActionParsnip sent was for 11.10
[13:29] <scarleo> zromayn: try either sudo init 0 or sudo shutdown -h now (might be --now)
[13:29] <yeats> s/link/ubottu factoid/
[13:29] <jatt> zromayn: no after I run xfce
[13:29] <glebihan> christian__, add quotes around liibboost*
[13:29] <glebihan> christian__, apt-cache policy "libboost*" | grep archive
[13:29] <scarleo> zromayn: I had a Debian server that always liked init 0 best
[13:29] <christian__> same message
[13:30] <scarleo> zromayn: so the same might apply to Ubuntu, haven't needed it so I'm not sure
[13:30] <maikls> ok will ask different - i installed ubuntu, but it's too slow for me. Now my cd-rom is dead, but i whant to install clear lubuntu. Is it possible from inside this instllation of ubuntu?
[13:30] <zromayn> scarleo: with ubuntu server 11.04 i didn't have this problem.
[13:30] <scarleo> zromayn: ok
[13:31] <christian__> i just dont know where if ind the ppa/backports for the newer libboost versions
[13:31] <scarleo> zromayn: good thing then there's more than one way to do it :)
[13:32] <lunitik> cutiyar: Google is not complying with my searches... sorry
[13:32] <cutiyar> lunitik, this 11.10 is fulll of problem i dont know what to do
[13:32] <liran> Hi
[13:33] <liran> How do I disable all Diffie-Helman ciphers in my ubuntu Apache server?
[13:33] <lunitik> cutiyar: I see none with a fresh install, sort of sad cuz fixing things is fun... lol, I'm somewhat of a masochist tho
[13:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[13:34] <jatt> cutiyar: no, 11.10 is not that bad. 11.10 desktop packages (unity and gnome) are full of problems but other parts of the system work quite well.
[13:34] <lunitik> liran: you might get better help in #ubuntu-server
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> sebsebseb: from the sebsite?
[13:34] <yeats> christian__: libboost is not in lucid backports, FYI: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-backports/libs/
[13:34] <sebsebseb> MonkeyDust: the what?
[13:34] <lunitik> jatt: I am using Unity, I see no problems... his issue is actually with something of the underlying system....
[13:34] <cutiyar> lunitik, there is another problem its not shutting down i have to write sudo init 0 in terminal if needed shut down
[13:34] <zamba> how do i get the boot prompt in ubuntu 11.10?
[13:34] <christian__> thx yeats, i found a 3rd party backport lucid-bleed, where 1.42 should be included
[13:34] <Carlitos83> ciao ^^
[13:35] <zamba> i've tried both shift and esc, but the system just boots without getting me the grub prompt
[13:35] <cutiyar> jatt, so what i have to do with them my Interface was not working?
[13:35] <jatt> so unity is ok and the underlying system is buggy? that's a remarkable statement :)
[13:35] <scarleo> zamba: hold down shift while booting
[13:35] <yeats> christian__: good
[13:35] <christian__> :( why dont they add new versions in the main ppas ?
[13:35] <lunitik> jatt: I think the entire system is fine, but many are getting issues with the upgrade mechanism
[13:36] <yeats> christian__: PPAs are personal package archives - it's up to volunteer individuals to maintain those
[13:36] <lunitik> jatt: his current issue is related to the move of /var/run to /run for instance, so his configs are looking at /var/run still from the last releases settings
[13:36] <vevais> Hello, I'd like to open all my .css-file with Eclipse by default, but in the "open with..."-option Eclipse is not listed nor can I choose an executable.
[13:37] <vevais> How should I do this?
[13:37] <ljsoftnet> how do i edit the login settings in xubuntu/
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> vevais: run:   which eclipse    then point the config to that
[13:37] <ljsoftnet> i want to change the auto-login session
[13:37] <sebsebseb> ljsoftnet: you can ask in #xubuntu as well
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> christian__: PPA's are not supported by the community
[13:38] <vevais> ActionParsnip: ...point the config to that?
[13:38] <lunitik> ljsoftnet: either .xsession or .xfce4-session in your home dir
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: log off, then select the session when you log in, it will be remembered for next time
[13:38] <christian__> oh ok... :)
[13:38] <christian__> didnt know how the ppas exactly work
[13:38] <vevais> "which Eclipse" gives me no output
[13:38] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip i cant save the session, its just openbox on the combo box
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> vevais: yes, the open with... dialogue wants the binary to run it with, just tell it the output of the command
[13:38] <lunitik> vevais: it is case sensitive
[13:39] <yeats> christian__: they're mostly fine, but just pay attention to what you're adding ;-)
[13:39] <lunitik> can also just dpkg -L eclipse | grep bin
[13:39] <vevais> It does not want a binary from me. (that's my problem) It just shows me a list of programs.
[13:39] <vevais> And I can't choose a binary, as stated before
[13:40] <lunitik> vevais: you should be able to search instead of picking one of the listed bin files
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> christian__: i ruined my system once, by adding a daily build PPA
[13:40] <christian__> removing the ppa didn help ??
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> it did
[13:40] <vevais> Yeah, I should, and that's what I always did. But after the upgrade to 11.10 there's no such option.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> that was a good lesson :)
[13:40] <vevais> :(
[13:40] <isaque> ciao
[13:40] <christian__> :D i just want libboost versoins > 1.40 from the PPA
[13:40] <alvin47> how can I stop netbook-launcher-efl from killing itself? i'm on 10.04
[13:41] <lunitik> should be able to just update the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and change the dist version and have it work
[13:41] <dmhouse> Hi all. I've just upgraded to 11.10, and now my computer won't boot. It complains with "unknown service S90binfmt-support" or something like that, and then starts booting again. The same happens booting into previous Linux versions. Recovery mode drops me into a root shell.
[13:41] <Azzmodan> How do I disable the auto-hide of the menu bar thing on the left?
[13:41] <dmhouse> Any ideas as to how I could fix this?#
[13:41] <MrGeneral> Folks, where do I see ubuntu one logs? I start its sync but it suddently stops
[13:41] <christian__> MonkeyDust if i crash my system because of some ppa, i will come back to you .D
[13:41] <isaque> portugal
[13:41] <vevais> lunitik: I can even search online for applications for that filetype. lol
[13:41] <pepe> hello
[13:41] <vevais> lunitik: But not choose my own binary
[13:42] <pepe> !list
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> christian__: bring some flowers ;)
[13:42] <christian__> haha :D i will
 How do I disable the auto-hide of the menu bar thing on the left? - Never mind, I must be daft, the compiz autohide option just didn't stick to never
[13:43] <vevais> Is there no way to open different file-types  with programs of my choice?
[13:43] <yeats> christian__: you might also experiment with installing the deb for a newer version from packages.ubuntu.com - 'dpkg --dry-run <packagename>' would be your friend
[13:43] <dpierce> Im having some trouble viewing colored ANSI art with various telnet BBS systems. Which _console_ font would allow these characters to be properly displayed?
[13:43] <dimitri> help me. i have some porblem after 11.10 upgrade . there is a way to turn back at 11.04 ?
[13:43] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip how do i make a openbox session?
[13:43] <lunitik> vevais: no one knows why it isn't letting you, so no one is answering
[13:43] <vevais> lunitik: So it's a bug?
[13:43] <christian__> lucid-bleed didnt help :(
[13:43] <yeats> christian__: but realize that you're on your own if you do so - that would not be supported :-/
[13:43] <george__> hello. I've updated to kubuntu 11.10 and it was fine, but today, for some reason, sound stopped working! Help, please?
[13:43] <gwb> 11.10 upgrade problem:  Many icons missing from the Launcher.  How can I edit the Launcher to find the icons?  PS: on a newly created login id, all is well, but on an old one not so much
[13:44] <christian__> thx yeats i will try this now
[13:45] <alvin47> why does my netbook-launcher-efl killing itself? i found that on the system monitor... is there anyway to disable its autokill?
[13:45] <cutiyar> lunitik, whats solution?
[13:45] <yeats> gwb: right click on the icons you don't want and remove them; open the programs you want, then right click on their icons and choose "Keep in launcher"
[13:45] <lunitik> vevais: I would say so... although the dialog looks like gnome decided to remove options again  :/
[13:46] <vevais> Yeah. :/
[13:46] <lunitik> cutiyar: I can't find the article with the solution
[13:46] <vevais> I should move to Kubuntu
[13:46] <yakc> have anyone else had problems with high cpu usage after upgrading 11.10
[13:46] <vevais> lunitik: Do you have 11.10 and the ability to choose your own binary for a file?
[13:46] <cutiyar> lunitik, there is solution?
[13:47] <lunitik> cutiyar: basically, go through /etc/NetworkManager and ensure all are pointing to /run instead of /var/run etc
[13:47] <lunitik> vevais: I really don't see the issue, just open the file in eclipse itself instead of nautilus
[13:47] <gwb> Yeats, when I click on the icon for Workplace Switcher, e.g., There is no option to remove the icon
[13:47] <lunitik> vevais: nautilus is really horrible
[13:48] <gwb> yeats, same with Trash
[13:48] <supersasho> hi there.. i've got problem with grub.. i've got 2 disks, on one i've got 11.04 on the other i've done "cp -a /media/system/* /media/backup" so theres my backup.. i've allready done udpate-grub the backup was found, i've changed in fstab  / to uuid of the backup partition but it won't boot
[13:48] <zromayn> hya: I'm trying to resize my ubuntu 11.10 server buffer size window. Right now, it is set with the default, which, I believe it is 80x25. Where do I go to modify this? I found something in the ubuntu community, but it looks like that article is outdated
[13:48] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: you can do it with gdm or if youre feeling adventurous, xorg.conf
[13:48] <vevais> lunitik: Even if use the "open file"-option in Eclipse and choose the file, it opens it with Gedit. lol
[13:48] <vevais> lunitik: I don't get it.
[13:49] <ljsoftnet> dpierce how with gdm?
[13:49] <lunitik> zromayn: you can edit resolution in grub's boot line...
[13:49] <dpierce> scratch xorg.conf... i meant xinitrc
[13:50] <yeats> gwb: if you're having a lot of problems, you might consider renaming your /home/<username> folder to /home/<username>.orig and logging out and back in - then moving your files and other settings over - just a thought...
[13:50] <zromayn> lunitik: thx for the tip. btw, how to I get to grub's boot line?
[13:50] <ljsoftnet> dpierce where can i find .xinitrc?
[13:50] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: if you have openbox installed, theres a lil button at the bottom of the gdm screen that allows you to choose your DE session
[13:50] <written> after ubuntu upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 ubuntu does no longer boots ;-(
[13:50] <wegue> guys, i want use glade and pygtk to programming, but there's a damn problem, the default glade version is 3.6.7,  it support gtk2.8 2.10-2.16, and the other thing is the default gtk+2.0 version is 2.20...dose there any deb package of glade 3.8, i don't want install it by source code..
[13:51] <ljsoftnet> dpierce i can change to openbox but after reboot it takes me back to xubuntu
[13:51] <lunitik> zromayn: sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:51] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: xinitrc is in /etc/X11... but its recommended you use the gui tool
[13:51] <yeats> wegue: what ubuntu release are you running?
[13:52] <wegue> yeats: 10.04
[13:52] <Dookie> anyone knows if I can set the Alt+Tab back to switching between current workspace programs again? like it used to be in 10.04
[13:52] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: i believe it will prompt you to make it the default, or you can maybe set it as the default in the gdm 'settings' configuration gui
[13:53] <ljsoftnet> dpierce whats the gui for the gdm?
[13:53] <gwb> yeats: I'm beginning to think that may be the only option. Just wish I could easily fix it somehow.  Can't believe this upgrade has screwed so many things
[13:53] <m3asmi> how to enable the compiz effect in ubuntu 11.10  like http://ubuntuguide.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/snapshot26-404x360.png in the older version ?
[13:54] <lunitik> m3asmi: Compiz is used by default.
[13:54] <lunitik> m3asmi: so, uhh, you don't have to turn it on  ;)
[13:55] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: dont recall. i dont use gdm. poke around your "administration" panel. should be there.
[13:55] <m3asmi> but the effect are not EXTRA
[13:55] <lunitik> m3asmi: I really don't recommend using ubuntuguide
[13:55] <ljsoftnet> dpierce i've look at it but its not there
[13:55] <lunitik> m3asmi: you can configure what effects to use via compizconfig-settings-manager from the repos
[13:55] <christian__> one questio
[13:56] <yeats> m3asmi: I agree with lunitik, especially something from 2009 - many, many things have changed in Ubuntu since then
[13:56] <lunitik> m3asmi: I think compiz and compiz-extra is merged
[13:56] <christian__> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/306904 thats what i want... i added lucid-bleed like described (add-apt etc.)
[13:56] <lunitik> yeats: they stopped updating ubuntuguide because it was breaking folks systems even back then  ;)
[13:56] <m3asmi> so why I can't get the effect ?§
[13:56] <christian__> then i did apt-get update.. but still i cant find 1.42 when i do sudo apt-get install lib...
[13:57] <lunitik> m3asmi: maybe your graphics drivers aren't installed or working... unity itself relies on compiz though, just a different set of effects
[13:57] <yeats> !compiz | m3asmi
[13:58] <lunitik> m3asmi: they are using more sensible effects, whereas when compiz first came on the scene people were doing insane things that cut out usability
[13:58] <_trine> I think the name of the main culprit responsible for this upgrade should be made public
[13:58] <written> why isn't ubuntu better tested before an upgrade rollout?
[13:58] <lunitik> written: because very few users using the testing branches
[13:59] <christian__> have i forgotten something?
[13:59] <m3asmi> I installed the gnome-shell , same problem
[13:59] <lunitik> written: In Debian, for instance, something like 75% of users use testing or unstable... for Ubuntu it is estimated less than 5% do
[13:59] <m3asmi> no effect :(
[13:59] <yeats> christian__: try 'apt-cache showpkg <packagename>'
[13:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i make openbox as desktop environment in xubuntu?
[14:00] <yeats> m3asmi: GNOME3 doesn't use compiz at all - it uses mutter -FYI
[14:00] <lunitik> m3asmi: I told you the configuration app for compiz... you are using compiz atm
[14:00] <christian__> ok thx, i will do it when update is finsihed. i tried it again
[14:00] <zmbmartin> Is there a "Do not disturb" quick link to disable notifications if I am busy?
[14:01] <lunitik> zmbmartin: in Gnome Shell, sure, but the Ubuntu notifications are already non-intrusive.
[14:01] <zmbmartin> lunitik: ok thanks
[14:02] <lunitik> zmbmartin: for instance, mousing over them, they fade and you can still use the app underneath...
[14:02] <m3asmi> lunitik: compiz atm ?
[14:02] <lunitik> m3asmi: if you are using Unity, yes... the entire desktop is built on top of compiz
[14:03]  * A_J dances
[14:03] <yeats> m3asmi: 'atm' = 'at the moment', right lunitik? ;-
[14:03] <lunitik> yeats: umm, yes
[14:03] <jac0bz1> Hi again! While using Gnome without Unity with gnome-shell  on Ubuntu 11.10 i manage to set it up almost how i like it.. one think that i cant figure out, is how to remove "file menu" in the topbar without loosing desktop icons..?
[14:04] <m3asmi>  :D
[14:04] <jac0bz1> As you can see here: http://bildr.no/view/1001941 the menu appears behind the top bar.. kinda confusing
[14:04] <lunitik> jac0bz1: I am not even sure how you put stuff in the "top bar" of gnome-shell... there isn't such a thing available for gnome-shell afaik
[14:05] <jac0bz1> lunitik: See the screenshot
[14:05] <riddlebox> if I installed lubuntu-desktop, how can I uninstall everything that was installed at that time?
[14:05] <yeats> jac0bz1: that's not GNOME shell, actually - looks like fallback GNOME
[14:06] <dpierce> ljsoftnet: ddg.gg/?q=gdm+settings
[14:06] <freg> hallo
[14:06] <freg> !list
[14:06] <visitor_nuub> hello guys
[14:07] <lunitik> jac0bz1: you can dpkg -l appmenu-* and remove them all... I assume there is a setting in something like dconf-editor to turn them off but I haven't looked
[14:07] <dpierce> Im having some trouble viewing colored ANSI art with various telnet BBS systems. Which _console_ font would allow these characters to be properly displayed?
[14:08] <jac0bz1> lunitik: That will remove every menu? even in windows?
[14:08] <visitor_nuub> BladedThesis, hello
[14:08] <dpierce> or, which console font is most "windows-ish" conpatible
[14:08] <phlak_user> dpierce: you can use the segoe UI font from windows itself :)
[14:08] <christian__> hey yeats, seems like i can install 1.42 now
[14:08] <lunitik> jac0bz1: appmenu-* is what is putting the menu's in the top bar... yes
[14:08] <christian__> but one last question D:
[14:08] <visitor_nuub> i need help for ip network camera on <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:08] <christian__> is there an option/flag so that apt-get install also installs the suggested packages automatically ?
[14:08] <phlak_user> visitor_nuub: is it running Ubuntu?
[14:09] <Caesi> Hi All - could anyone help me with Wine? I would like to install an old game, but keep getting an error message when I try to run the setup.exe :)
[14:09] <visitor_nuub> 10.04 lucid
[14:09] <christian__> i want to update all libboost libraries to 1.42
[14:09] <jac0bz1> well, that will not do me any good then.. hmm.. but ive seen screenshots of the theme i'm using where there is no top-panel menu
[14:09] <jayden> caesi, check the wineHQ website to see if the game works, and how to make it work
[14:09] <yeats> christian__: 'sudo apt-get --install-suggests <package>'
[14:09] <christian__> ahh thats great :D thx yeats
[14:09] <Caesi> jayden: was just about to do that, thanks!
[14:10] <yeats> christian__: sorry - I'm wrong
[14:10] <christian__> i see ^^
[14:10] <yeats> christian__: it's 'sudo apt-get --install-suggests install <package>'
[14:10] <visitor_nuub> i think wsgiref server very slow at our server (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[14:10] <yeats> christian__: missed the 'install' part ;-)
[14:10] <christian__> thank you very much
[14:10] <lunitik> christian__: yes... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-configure-apt-get-to-install-suggested-packages-169746/#post2830494
[14:10] <christian__> thx also lunitik :D
[14:11] <visitor_nuub> please visit our service
[14:11] <lunitik> christian__: what i said will be persistent, what yeats said is one run only
[14:11] <DarkAce> #list
[14:11] <phlak_user> visitor_nuub: what is wsfiref?
[14:11] <Caesi> jayden: "Everything. The game installs and runs perfectly. No need for no_cd cracks or anything." -- any ideas?
[14:11] <christian__> yes, i know
[14:11] <phlak_user> visitor_nuub: what is wsgiref?
[14:11] <christian__> :)
[14:11] <visitor_nuub> wsgiref python wsgi server app
[14:11] <Alan502> Does it make a lot of difference if I re-install the system instead of doing dist-upgrade?
[14:11] <jayden> caesi, what's the game
[14:11] <Caesi> jayden: Broken Sword 2
[14:12] <E3D3> How can I print a list of folders, each on its own line without extra information ?
[14:12] <Travis-42b> In Ubuntu 11.10, do I still need a swap partition if I want to hibernate?
[14:12] <phlak_user> Alan502: you might lose your documents etc; however there is an option to select upgrade even from the liveCD/USB
[14:12] <lunitik> Alan502: yes, it will be a clean system instead of cruft from old installs... configs will be cleaner etc
[14:12] <Caesi> jayden: remind me, how can I upload images and quickly send you the link? I can then send you the error message
[14:12] <dayson> I'm upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10.. do I need to worry about anything if I'm using Gnome classic ?
[14:12] <sebsebseb> dayson: yep
[14:13] <jayden> www.imgur.com will work
[14:13] <yeats> dayson: just know that it won't be there after you upgrade :-)
[14:13] <hagus> I want to remove every trace of my apache2 settings.  Is there a command that will not only remove apache2 but also ensure that my previous settings are not restored when I reinstall it?
[14:13] <zastaph> I have difficulties hitting the thin line where the mouse pointer can actually resize the window.. can't this be improved somehow?
[14:13] <yeats> hagus: 'sudo apt-get purge apache2'
[14:13] <Alan502> lunitik: ah ok thanks!
[14:13] <Alan502> what's new in oneric anyway?
[14:14] <phlak_user> E3D3: use -d switch
[14:14] <Travis-42b> zastaph: I have the same problem and would love to know a solution
[14:14] <sebsebseb> dayson: yeats  Well there's that Gnome 3 fall back mode as well which is like Gnome 2, but yep Gnome 2 itself is better really
[14:14] <BadDesign> Anyone knows why after fresh installing and booting Ubuntu 11.10 the system freezes at "Checking batery state... [OK]" ? I have tried using boot options (nomodeset, xforcevesa, acpi=off) with no success, I have tried installing nvidia-current, and running nvidia-xconfig and dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a... still no luck any suggestions?
[14:14] <zastaph> Travis-42b: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2571
[14:14] <Caesi> jayden: http://imgur.com/9LqSs
[14:14] <Alan502> !oneric
[14:14] <yeats> sebsebseb: I'm aware - thanks
[14:15] <lunitik> Alan502: lots of things... here is a list for the desktop http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-new-features.html
[14:15] <dayson> sebsebseb, didn't understand that. Can I still use Gnome classic the way I'm using it at the moment?
[14:15] <t35t0r> how do i force reconfigure a package
[14:15] <phlak_user> zastaph: you can change the theme where it might show a thicker border
[14:15] <BadDesign> All other versions of Ubuntu worked (since 8.04) this one doesn't...
[14:15] <t35t0r> without uninstalling and re-installing?
[14:15] <lunitik> Alan502: most exciting things for me on the server though - juju is awesome
[14:15] <dwan> #join /ubuntu-es
[14:15] <sebsebseb> dayson: no, unless you figure out some way to install Gnoem 2 yourself into 11.10
[14:15] <phlak_user> Alan502: and evolution changed from mbox to Maildir
[14:15] <Alan502> lunitik: lol like what?
[14:16] <sebsebseb> dayson: oh and then add the Canonical patches on to it if you want  those feautres
[14:16] <phlak_user> !info juju
[14:16] <sebsebseb> dayson: so put simpaly no  you can't have Ubuntu Classic Desktop in 11.10
[14:16] <Alan502> phlak_user: tunderbird instead right?
[14:16] <lunitik> t35t0r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall foo <-- will run post-inst again
[14:16] <jayden> Caesi, you need to right click the .exe you're trying to open, go to the permissions tab, and check the box along the lines of "allow executing as a program" then try again
[14:16] <BadDesign> t35t0r, you can reconfigure an already installed package using 'dpkg-reconfigure' command
[14:16] <zastaph> phlak_user: all 4 themes have the same border width
[14:16] <E3D3> phlak_user: ?? ls -d ?? don't work, I see nothing beside one dot !
[14:16] <phlak_user> Alan502: yes, but i still prefer evolution and this is the change
[14:16] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | dayson
[14:16] <sebsebseb> !nounity | dayson
[14:17] <bearnik> Ubuntu classic cant be switch from loggin screen ? I think i saw that option
[14:17] <supersasho> hi there.. i've got problem with grub.. i've got 2 disks, on one i've got 11.04 on the other i've done "cp -a /media/system/* /media/backup" so theres my backup.. i've allready done udpate-grub the backup was found, i've changed in fstab  / to uuid of the backup partition but it won't boot
[14:17] <bindi> hey, is it possible to hook up a microsoft fingerprint scanner to an ubuntu machine, and have it trigger a script each time a known fingerprint is scanned?
[14:17] <kuuhmuUbun> Hey today i'm upgrade to 11.10 and it have something missing ,I don't know  what that call ... embl..... or somthing ,it add icon on folder i want it. who know to call it back.
[14:17] <sebsebseb> bearnik:  see the factoids above if our on 11.10 I guess
[14:17] <Caesi> jayden: tried - in which case I'll have to copy the entire thing to the hard drive.. will try!
[14:17] <mithran> hi all, I installed windows xp, windows7 and ubuntu 10.04 side by side, using the normal ubuntu install CD (side by side), now i want to remove ubuntu, can someone please help me
[14:17] <mithran> ?
[14:17] <hagus> thanks yeats! :)
[14:17] <yeats> hagus: sure ;-)
[14:17] <sebsebseb> mithran: remove Ubuntu why?
[14:18] <lunitik> kuuhmuUbun: what task did the app complete?
[14:18] <ljsoftnet> how do i make openbox as desktop environment in xubuntu?
[14:18] <mithran> sebsebseb: i think i should have used the wubi installer, just doing an experiment with all the different installs
[14:18] <bearnik> I just switch from 11.04 to 11.10 and wanted to look the new stuff
[14:18] <LjL> mithran: you need to overwrite it with another operating system, or repartition. there is no "uninstallation procedure"
[14:18] <mithran> i heard with wubi you can do an uninstall and the windows bootloader is restaored
[14:18] <lunitik> mithran: you can just partition it for Windows... but you want #windows for that
[14:18] <bearnik> so i didn't realy bother look for classic gnome look
[14:18] <sebsebseb> mithran: well real partitions is better than Wubi
[14:19] <lunitik> mithran: still not an Ubuntu question... go to add/remove apps and uninstall wubi
[14:19] <sebsebseb> mithran: if you delete the Ubuntu partition, Windows won't boot up either nothing will, since Grub the bootloader will be gone, except for the tiny part of it on your MBR Master Boot Record first section of your hard disk
[14:19] <lunitik> mithran: in Window
[14:19] <visitor_nuub> proxyscan2.freenode.net - - [16/Oct/2011 17:05:40] "CONNECT <IP_ADDRESS>:31204 HTTP/1.0" 200 1225
[14:19] <lunitik> s
[14:19] <jayden> Caesi, can't you do this in terminal: cd /media/RBSII1 then type chmod +x Setup.exe (remember linux is case sensitive)
[14:19] <lunitik> sebsebseb: he is using wubi
[14:19] <sebsebseb> mithran: however then you can use a Windows CD/DVD to fix that so Windows can boot again, if you got
[14:19] <sebsebseb> lunitik: no he's not see above
[14:19] <mithran> sebsebseb: i have the windows 7 cd
[14:20] <Caesi> jayden: will try, one sec
[14:20] <lunitik> sebsebseb: mithran> i heard with wubi you can do an uninstall and the windows bootloader is restaored
[14:20] <visitor_nuub> please check my service on http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:20] <Guest7906> Hello. When I try to open my HOME folder VLC or other multimedia player opens it, I can't see my home folder content, Why is this happenning?=
[14:20] <LjL> lunitik: yes, he *wants* to use Wubi, that's why he wants to delete what he has now
[14:20] <mithran> lunitik: yes i just realized that would be the ideal way to dual boot with windows
[14:20] <sebsebseb> lunitik: no mithran was thinking about using Wubi
[14:20] <jayden> caesi, it might not work if you're on read only media like a CD.. not to sure about that one :P
[14:20] <LjL> !ot | visitor_nuub
[14:20] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906, check file permission
[14:20] <Caesi> jayden: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/RBSII1/Setup.exe': Read-only file system - because it's a CD I would think
[14:20] <lunitik> mithran: not at all, it breaks a lot of peoples systems...
[14:20] <Caesi> jayden: ... =)
[14:20] <Caesi> jayden: thanks in any case, I'll try copying it
[14:21] <Travis-42b> Where in the install step is encrypted home offered? I cant find it.
[14:21] <lunitik> mithran: proper dual booting is far better
[14:21] <plain-user> who can remind me a name of a game for SEGA, where there is a ninja jumping in the trees, first level is from right to left. It is not ninja gaiden. ?
[14:21] <mithran> sebsebseb: with the windows 7 cd, can i install the bootloader and boot my windows xp and 7 partitions?
[14:21] <sebsebseb> Travis-42b: after partitoning I think, but ify ou forget the encryption thing for that, you can get issues anyway, or something like that
[14:21] <sebsebseb> mithran: yep should be able to
[14:21] <dayson> sebsebseb, I'm right now on 11.04 in gnome classic. And running the update from here. So you're saying after it updates and reboots, I will land into the new Unity which uses Gnome 3?
[14:21] <jayden> caesi sounds like the way to go :P anyways I'm off to install Windows now so goodluck getting your game running! Goodbye Unity and gnome-shell, I hope you rot in hell :P
[14:21] <sebsebseb> dayson: yep
[14:21] <trans> hello everyone, I installed 11.10, I faced blankscreen problem with nvidia (no screen found ) as per suggestions in ubuntu forums I inserted BUSID in xorg.conf file, now I got error screen is occupied, how to resolve the issue
[14:22] <sebsebseb> dayson: Ubuntu Classic Desktop will be completly removed bye bye Gnome 2
[14:22] <dpierce> Travis-42b: help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[14:22] <Guest7906> visitor_nuub, I checked the home folder and it says that I am not the owner, it says is root's
[14:22] <dayson> sebsebseb, why... :-( what happens if I have dual monitors?
[14:22] <dpierce> Guest7906: so chown it
[14:22] <dayson> sebsebseb, I want a taskbar on both my monitors
[14:22] <sebsebseb> dayson: apparnatly the Gnome 3 fall back mode which is availbe in the repos, doesn't work that well with dual monitors or whatever it is, even
[14:22] <dayson> sebsebseb, WHAT!
[14:22] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906,  never a user open root file
[14:23] <phlak_user> E3D3: somehow that doesnt work the way it is supposed to; the other way is ls -lp | grep \"/$\"
[14:23] <dayson> sebsebseb, :-| wait.. that's the fallback mode.. but the Unity one will right?
[14:23] <wilhart> hello, how did i make a dist upgrade?
[14:23] <kuuhmuUbun> i want to add emble.... on my folder on 11.10 but i can't find it
[14:23] <wilhart> the command in prompt was?
[14:23] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906,  user 1000 root 1001 give to user your files
[14:23] <sebsebseb> dayson: you might  get two bars in Unity as well, I don't know, not got dual monitors and so on
[14:23] <zastaph> the resize corners have a comfortable size in top left and right corners.. but in bottom left and right they are 1 pixel thick!
[14:24] <yeats> dayson: I wouldn't expect a whole lot from fallback mode if it were me
[14:24] <zastaph> also, the black top of windows have no clear borders so if they overlap eachother its hard to see where each starts
[14:24] <sebsebseb> dayson: I guess try 11.10 out, if you don't like it,  downgrade by clean installing back to 11.04, or maybe even start using some other distro if you really want even
[14:24] <kone> Hello! Anyone here have experience with dvb-daemon?
[14:24] <yeats> dayson: you're probably faced with a decision between unity and gnome3
[14:24] <phlak_user> E3D3: its actually this -> ls -lp | grep \/$
[14:24] <jatt> or xfce
[14:24] <Travis-42b> Ubuntu warns me if I dont create a swap partition, but my understand was that it was not so important anymore. Thoughts?
[14:24] <dayson> yeats, sebsebseb : fallback mode is the term used to provide Gnome classic support in 11.10 ?
[14:24] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906 sudo chmod 777  /files (warning  not system files)
[14:24] <yeats> dayson: right, as jatt says, xfce
[14:24] <sebsebseb> dayson: no not quite
[14:25] <sebsebseb> dayson: the fall back is Gnome 3's upstream fall back mode, and so not Gnoem 2
[14:25] <Guest7906> dpierce, BUT, if I change permissions to HOME, is the rest of the folders and files inside home are gonna change too?
[14:25] <E3D3> phlak_user: Thank you very much for trying to help but this also don't work here ?
[14:25] <E3D3> Strange that such a simple list seems to impossible in Linux. That scares me.
[14:25] <yeats> dayson: there is no "GNOME Classic" in 11.10
[14:25] <lunitik> Travis-42b: it depends how much ram is on the system... it has never been important, unless you run out of RAM
[14:25] <dayson> yeats, got it.
[14:25] <phlak_user> E3D3: the last one works; tried it out now
[14:25] <Travis-42b> lunitik: But if you run out of RAM and have no swap partition, doesn't it just use a swap file?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> dayson: in fact here's a link about it http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/09/11/install-the-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[14:25] <lunitik> Travis-42b: no
[14:25] <Guest7906> visitor_nuub, Ok, so should I just do that with home, like this? sudo chmod 7777 /home
[14:26] <t35t0r> 11.10 gripes : 1) right click doesn't work in firefox in unity 2) right click doesn't work at all anymore in fluxbox 3) how do i get rid of the guest session login (tried removing gdm-guest-session and editing /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf)
[14:26] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906 not all files
[14:26] <dayson> sebsebseb, yeats : ok. Am I expected to face any other upgrade issues?
[14:26] <lunitik> Travis-42b: you can setup a swap file later, it will use less space in most cases than a dedicated partition... it isn't created automatically though
[14:26] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906 only user files
[14:26] <dpierce> Guest7906: if you -R (recursive) then, yes.
[14:26] <Travis-42b> lunitik: Ah ok. Is there a downside to the swap file?
[14:26] <sebsebseb> dayson: you might not like the re design of the software centre for example
[14:26] <yeats> dayson: probably, but none that are insurmountable ;-)
[14:26] <E3D3> phlak_user: I want just a simple list of the folders, nothing more. Maybe I asked wrong, sorry for that.
[14:27] <Guest7906> dpierce, Ok, I am going to do this, then. sudo chmod 777 /home
[14:27] <lunitik> Travis-42b: My understanding is that it is slower... but systems generally have enough RAM to never touch it anyway
[14:27] <dayson> yeats, ok. I just have too much work to finish in the coming 24 hours and don't want to spend time on this.. (I hit the upgrade before I thought of this)
[14:27] <wilhart> hello, how did i make a dist upgrade? dupgrade -d ?
[14:27] <phlak_user> E3D3: did you run this command -> ls -lp | grep \/$
[14:27] <sebsebseb> dayson: it will probably go ok, but yep bye bye Gnome 2 with the Ubuntu speicifc patches sound menu etc
[14:28] <yeats> dayson: you will probably be able to get work done (barring something ugly like a graphics issue)
[14:28] <phlak_user> E3D3: its not a "V" after grep it is a \ and then a /
[14:28] <lunitik> Travis-42b: swap files will be whatever file system is on that partition, swap partitions are more optimized for the task
[14:28] <wilhart> shoul i upgrade from lucid,  i have a slow computer could it be faster somehow ?? with a new version
[14:28] <Aetherix> All of a sudden, when I log in, I have a choice between Gnome, Ubuntu and Ubuntu2d. Yesterday I couldn't select Gnome. Is that normal?
[14:28] <Travis-42b> Ok, thanks lunitik
[14:28] <sebsebseb> wilhart: probably best to stay on 10.04 for now realy
[14:28] <sebsebseb> on that computer
[14:28] <sebsebseb> wilhart: unless Unity 2D speeds things up for example
[14:28] <E3D3> phlak_user: Yes, it gave lines like this: drwxr-xr-x 27 e3d3 e3d3 4096 sep  1 20:53 000_Emacs/
[14:28] <phlak_user> E3D3: ok so did you not want the details?
[14:29] <dayson> sebsebseb, yeats hmm..  looks is very important to me. (and the dual monitor support).. damn I hope I don't regret this like crazy.
[14:29] <Guest7906> dpierce, Still have the same problem. When I try to open my home folder, VLC opens it
[14:29] <lunitik> Aetherix: did you install something new? I don't know what would be included in that option's session
[14:29] <phlak_user> E3D3: thats easily achieved by running it thro cu
[14:29] <phlak_user> E3D3: thats easily achieved by running it thro cut
[14:29] <wilhart> sebsebseb: what's that?
[14:29] <wilhart> sebsebseb: i'm using xfce4 now
[14:29] <visitor_nuub> Guest7906 sudo chmod 777 /home/(user)/ "userfiles"
[14:29] <Aetherix> lunitik: I didn't install anything additional. But all of a sudden I have an option to run Gnome 3
[14:29] <cinch123> I keep getting kernel panic on 11.10. Is there a logfile/crash dump I can submit somewhere?
[14:30] <yeats> wilhart: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources, click Releases (I think) and change from LTS Releases to Normal Releases - it will then prompt you to upgrade to 10.10, then 11.04, then 11.10
[14:30] <sebsebseb> wilhart: well Unity 2D is really used as the fall back mode in 11.10 by default for people with graphics cards that can't just do the 3D verison
[14:30] <lunitik> Aetherix: Try running the session, it is prolly gnome-fallback
[14:30] <sebsebseb> !unity
[14:30] <sebsebseb> !unity2d
[14:30] <E3D3> phlak_user: Thx, I'll read about it.
[14:30] <pixolin> hello. I would greatly appriciate your help with a simple tar command: how can I tar all files of a directory "abc" (and it's subdirectories) without storing the highest level directory "abc" in the tar ball?
[14:30] <yeats> wilhart: scratch what I said then - I don't know if XFCE works the same way :-/
[14:30]  * yeats assumes it does
[14:30] <wilhart> yeats: but gnome does?
[14:31] <wilhart> yeats: ok how do i make a dist upgrade ?
[14:31] <Ibis> sebsebseb: You can also: /msg ubottu !unity2d
[14:31] <phlak_user> E3D3: here you go -> ls -lp | grep \/$ | tr -s ' '|cut -f8 -d ' '
[14:31] <Aetherix> lunitik: Yesterday I was trying to enable 'wobbly windows' in compiz though and my system crashed. I had to do a unity --reset.
[14:31] <wilhart> sebsebseb: i forgot the command
[14:31] <yeats> wilhart: I don't use XFCE, but I imagine the process would be similar
[14:31] <sebsebseb> wilhart: command for what?
[14:31] <wilhart> yeats: i can use gnome yea
[14:31] <lunitik> Aetherix: just try using the sesssion and see what happens
[14:31] <wilhart> sebsebseb: for a distro upgrade from lucid ->
[14:31] <yeats> wilhart: then read what I said above
[14:31] <wilhart> to 10.01
[14:31] <pixolin> .notunity
[14:31] <_trine> seeing as many many people do not like UNITY is there any chance the classic view be brought back in the next upgrade?
[14:32] <sebsebseb> Ibis: I already know that, used to help out in this channel loads,  not that often anymore, but thanks anyway
[14:32] <llutz> E3D3: find path/ -type d
[14:32] <yeats> _trine: don't count on it
[14:32] <wilhart> yeats: ah there i missed that
[14:32] <Aetherix> lunitik: I'm now running in Gnome 3. I can also choose Gnome classic. Although it is a stripped down version of Gnome 3. It is by no means Gnome 2.
[14:32] <pixolin> !notunity
[14:32] <picosine> i will only use xfce, gnome wont run on any old hardware, not very well
[14:32] <yeats> wilhart: :-)
[14:32] <dayson> sebsebseb, yeats Maybe I'd start liking Gnome 3. It comes pre-installed?
[14:32] <yeats> dayson: very easy to add
[14:32] <yeats> !gnome3 | dayson
[14:32] <lunitik> _trine: nope... people are disliking gnome3 as well though... gnome2 is end of life, but people do not like change
[14:32] <picosine> but i have xfce U! 11+ on som eold dels...heh...lightning
[14:32] <sebsebseb> dayson: yep Gnome 3.2 by default, but with the Unity interface by default, rather than the upstream Gnome Shell which isi n the repos if you want it
[14:32] <Guest7906> visitor_nuub, What command do I use so all the folders (Downloads, Music, Videos...etc) have that 777 permissions?
[14:33] <Ibis> My only beef with Unity/Gnome 3 is that... It makes you search for apps that you want to use.
[14:33] <wilhart> yeats: there's no releases there?
[14:33] <picosine> Ibis: YEAH !
[14:33] <zmbmartin> I don't see what the big fuss is. I was very skeptical but I Unity is really growing on me.
[14:33] <lunitik> Ibis: as apposed to clicking 20 times to get to the same app
[14:33] <dpierce> Guest7906: sudo chown -hR your_user_name /home/your_home_dir
[14:33] <picosine> also: Unity is lagging my netbooks...
[14:33] <Ibis> Guest7906: chmod -R /home/somethingCoolFolder 777
[14:33] <phlak_user> Ibis: you can add them to the favorites bar on the left by dragging and dropping them there
[14:33] <yeats> wilhart: click each tab and look for it - it may be "updates" (been a while since 10.04 for me ;-) )
[14:33]  * lunitik was using gnome-do in gnome2 - searching is just faster
[14:33] <wilhart> yeats: hmm i have to upgrade in chuncks?
[14:33] <Ibis> Guest7906: I strongly advise NOT to use 777. Does it have to be executable? O_O
[14:33] <E3D3> llutz: Thanks, that worked  :)  :)  :)
[14:33] <lunitik> picosine: then try unity2d
[14:34] <yeats> wilhart: yes - you have to step through each intervening release
[14:34] <picosine> sorry guys but Unity is not very useful to me an dit's slow
[14:34] <wilhart> yeats: and lucid is ?
[14:34] <Gentoo64> picosine: i thought you was using xfce
[14:34] <Ibis> dpierce: That's change OwnerShip. Not change permissions.
[14:34] <Guest7906> Ibis, So, what do you recommend?
[14:34] <picosine> OpenBox, FluxBox, XFCE
[14:34] <Gentoo64> ?
[14:34] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[14:34] <Aetherix> Hi sandra
[14:34] <sandra_> I trust all of you are doing well today.
[14:34] <Guest7906> Ibis, And, Why does my home folder opens whith VLC?
[14:35] <Abhijit> hi
[14:35] <yeats> wilhart: lucid is 10.04
[14:35] <wilhart> yeats: hmm i still need help about that where to start upgrade
[14:35] <phlak_user> E3D3: llutz  that command recurses into subdirectories
[14:35] <lunitik> picosine: unity isn't useful, but *box is? lol... I think you just don't wanna try something new
[14:35] <sandra_> Aetherix: Hello
[14:35] <Abhijit> which are bluetooth devices run properly without giving any problem on linux, ubuntu???
[14:35] <yeats> wilhart: sorry - I have to step away for a bit - it is somewhere in Software Sources
[14:35] <llutz> phlak_user: man find (depth)
[14:35] <dpierce> Ibis: ahhh. i thought he wanted chownership
[14:35] <wilhart> yeats: there was a command in terminal
[14:35] <sebsebseb> hi sandra_
[14:35] <christian__> i installed the new lib successfully
[14:35] <phlak_user> llutz: this works too -> ls -lp | grep \/$ | tr -s ' '|cut -f8 -d ' '
[14:35] <phlak_user> llutz: ;)
[14:36] <Gentoo64> lunitik: openbox is muxh quicker though
[14:36] <sandra_> sebsebseb: Hello :-)
[14:36] <christian__> but when i compile the program now, i got a linker error, undefined reference.. but why? the libs are in the same directory then the old were
[14:36] <phlak_user> sandra_: wb; did you get your nautilus issues sorted out?
[14:36] <dpierce> Gentoo64: framebuffer console is even faster :p
[14:36] <Guest7906> The problem is: Why does my home folder or other folder inside like Music, Downloads opens with VLC everytime I double click to them?
[14:36] <TRaSsHie> Hi
[14:36] <lunitik> Gentoo64: not really, you end up running a whole gnome session when you start an app instead of on login is all
[14:36] <llutz> phlak_user: i don't care, i didn't say yours won't
[14:36] <yeats> wilhart: 'sudo do-release-upgrade', but nothing will happen if you're only set for LTS releases
[14:36] <Ibis> Guest7906: chmod -R 777 /home/somethingCoolFolder
[14:36] <syn3rgy> Hi, I just updated to the newest Ubuntu. For some reason Flash Player can not be updated and I can't watch Flash video. How do I fix this?
[14:36] <Gentoo64> dpierce: not for lots of stuff it isnt :p
[14:36] <E3D3> phlak_user: I see but at least I can leave this item & continue my job. But not before also thanking you very much for the kind help & effort. :)
[14:36] <wilhart> yeats: ?hgmm
[14:37] <Abhijit> which bluetooth dongles works well in linux?
[14:37] <zastaph> how do I get a maximized window back to normal? the top bar is gone when I maximize it to the monitors view
[14:37] <TRaSsHie> Why is my ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have any startup sound regardless my sound card is installed already.
[14:37] <Gentoo64> lunitik: thats why people who use light wms dont install a load of gnome dep apps
[14:37] <lunitik> Gentoo64:  if you add gnome-session and kinit to your .xsession, maybe your desktop will be faster, otherwise it just isn't
[14:37] <Ibis> Guest7906: I strongly advise against using mode 777 (Everyone will have full rights and permision to EXECUTE and modify the files).
[14:37] <wilhart> yeats: i' have searched for that upgrade but cant find the command
[14:37] <christian__1> anyboyd got a hint for me ?
[14:37] <syn3rgy> Why does flash not work on the new Ubuntu?
[14:37] <wilhart> the button :p
[14:37] <lunitik> Gentoo64: then you miss the best apps on the linux desktop
[14:37] <Gentoo64> nah
[14:37] <Gentoo64> theres always alternatives
[14:38] <Guest7906> Ibis, I dont mind, I am the only one who uses this computer
[14:38] <lunitik> syn3rgy: you haven't installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:38] <Ibis> syn3rgy: sudo apt-get install flash-plugin
[14:38] <lunitik> Gentoo64: the alternatives just aren't good
[14:38] <yeats> wilhart: do 'gksudo software-properties-gtk', then click on the Updates tab
[14:38] <christian__1> wasting 2 days to set up the libs/needed stuff ^^
[14:38] <E3D3> phlak_user:  ls -lp | grep \/$ | tr -s ' '|cut -f8 -d ' '   gives me a list with only times ?  :o
[14:38] <Gentoo64> lunitik: i wont argue lol you use what you want. you cant say that
[14:38] <dpierce> Gentoo64: like editing images?? :P blasphemy! ascii art is all you need!
[14:39] <yeats> wilhart: there should be a dropdown menu that says "Notify me of new Ubuntu releases" or something like it - select "Normal Releases"
[14:39] <Guest7906> Ibis, But like I said, WHY does my home folder opens with VLC? I cant see the contents of the folder because everytime i try to open it, VLC pops up, like if my home folder was a mp3 or so
[14:39] <syn3rgy> lunitik Ibis  but it was installed before I updated. So I need t reinstall flash? I can't find synaptic to see what is installed and not.
[14:39] <Gentoo64> well gimps alright
[14:39] <wilhart> yeats: pre-released updates lucid-propsoed?
[14:39] <Ibis> Guest7906: .... http://www.hooverwebdesign.com/templates/chmod-calculator.html            Just in case.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> dpierce: do you use the ascii output engine in mplayer or vlc too ;)
[14:39] <yeats> wilhart: no - below that
[14:39] <sandra_> phlak_user: you know what I did solve it but what I found out is that "nautilus-open-terminal" was to blame for my nautilus anomalies .
[14:39] <yeats> wilhart: it's a dropdown menu
[14:39] <llutz> E3D3: find path/ maxdepth 1 -type d                not recursive   "ls -lp | grep \/$ | tr -s ' '|cut -f9 -d ' '"   for phlak_user solution
[14:40] <wilhart> yeats: release upgrade?
[14:40] <llutz> E3D3: dirname is 9th field, not 8
[14:40] <yeats> wilhart: yes - try that
[14:40]  * yeats sighs
[14:40] <solancer> --------------------------
[14:40] <Ibis> Guest7906: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1603290
[14:40] <phlak_user> sandra_: oh ok
[14:40] <solancer> it works
[14:40] <wilhart> yeats: nothing happens
[14:40] <Ibis> Guest7906: Check that thread out, that person has your issues and it's solved.
[14:40] <dpierce> ActionParsnip: thats what fbdev is for
[14:40] <christian__1> why cant the linker find the exports of the libs after updating them ? :(
[14:41] <TRaSsHie> hello...Why is my ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have any startup sound?
[14:41] <yeats> wilhart: okay - I'm sorry - that's the only way I know to advise and I have to go - please keep asking your questions in the channel and hopefully someone can help
[14:41] <sandra_> phlak_user: but sadly I still had problems with Unity and skype not working properly under Oneirc
[14:42] <solancer> ---------------------------------------------------
[14:42] <solancer> ok guys I have a problem with my operating system who can help me out /?
[14:42] <Abhijit> which bluetooth dongles works well in linux?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> !ask | solancer
[14:42] <sandra_> phlak_user: so decided to give Xubuntu a try and it works w/out any issues so far. But perhaps in a few months time ubuntu 11.10 will be ready for primetime . At least that is my hope.
[14:42] <picosine> which bluetooth dongle do you have?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> sandra_: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:42] <sebsebseb> !lts | sandra_
[14:43] <E3D3> llutz: phlak_user: Yes, dir-name is field 9. Thank you all. It was a heavy job. :p
[14:43] <gwb> 11.10 and Nvidia artifacts: Anyone tried the beta driver? Is it stable?
[14:43] <sandra_> phlak_user: funny thing is natty 11.04 works w/out any issues for me too.
[14:43] <Abhijit> picosine, i am planning to buy new one. so i want to know which works for sure
[14:43] <wilhart> sebsebseb: could you help me upgrade from lucid to 10.01
[14:43] <solancer> ---------
[14:43] <solancer> I am unable to use banshee media player after upgrading to oneric...
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> TRaSsHie: is ubuntu-sounds   installed?
[14:43] <wilhart> sebsebseb: or that latest stable
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> solancer: I've heard people having issues with it
[14:44] <sebsebseb> wilhart: your on 10.04, so to upgrade to 11.10, you would have to go through 10.10 and 11.04
[14:44] <sebsebseb> wilhart: or you could just wait and upgrade to 12.04 directly when it's time
[14:44] <Ibis> syn3rgy: Weird, it might just need to be reinstalled again? Run this in terminal. First push: CTRL+ALT+T,    run: gksudo synaptic &
[14:44] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | wilhart
[14:44] <TRaSsHie> ActionParsnip,  yep...the sound is working perfectly..just that I dont have the startup sound when i login.
[14:44] <deebee> solancer: Please stop writing ------ before your message in the channel
[14:45] <solancer> So wat do I do to fix it /?
[14:45] <wilhart> sebsebseb: nah i found it nm.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> TRaSsHie: I'd say that was a plus, Which desktop to you use?
[14:45] <Gentoo64> solancer: try reinstalling it
[14:45] <sandra_> phlak_user: the only minor point I have with Xubuntu is that it can't seem to handle USB headset as the default sound unit.
[14:45] <paranoid_ndroid> Hi. I have to rescue a home folder from a different partition using a live CD because the installed OS is dead. How can I gain permission using nautilus?
[14:45] <alvin47> ActionParsnip: do you know some tweak how to disable the netbook-launcher-efl from autokilling then hide from the desktop?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> paranoid_ndroid: gksudo nautilus      why do you NOT have a backup?????
[14:46] <Abhijit> no one uses bluetooth?
[14:46] <TRaSsHie> ActionParsnip, im using laptop lenovo Y450 and installed the Ubuntu 11.10
[14:46] <sebsebseb> sandra_: yeah USB headets hmm,  probably pulseaudio causing problems with yours
[14:46] <vvv> Hello. Could anyone explain me why Emerald was removed from 11.10?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: a little
[14:46] <solancer> I guess I'l just install Arch linux or Mint those versions have more stability
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> TRaSsHie: so do you use Gnome desktop? KDE?
[14:46] <dayson> ok time to reboot after upgrade.. hope it works fine!
[14:46] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, which one work well with linux?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> solancer: mint uses the same repos, dummy
[14:46] <TRaSsHie> ActionParsnip, Gnome
[14:47] <phlak_user> sandra_: if you install pavucontrol, it might let you select the default sound device
[14:47] <dpierce> solancer: and arch is far from stable
[14:47] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: solancer  unless it's LInux Mint Debian Edition of ocurse
[14:47] <Ibis> solancer: Does the software run? Banshee?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> solancer: wait for the bug to be fixed and it will install
[14:47] <phlak_user> sandra_: rather than messing around with pactl and its brothers
[14:47] <_chun> My usb hard drive is no longer showing up under /dev/ or in gparted -- it's powering on (the light turns on) and I've tried a different usb cable, but nothing shows. Is it toast, or are there any more diagnostics I can do?
[14:47] <solancer> Its debian but its not the same as UBuntu
[14:47] <sandra_> sebsebseb: if it's pulseaudio issue why is it that works fine on natty and oneiric ?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> solancer: you are also forgetting that Oneiric is only justoout, so uncrushed bugs from the beta stages will stil be around. Think about it
[14:47] <paranoid_ndroid> ActionParsnip, a backup? The computer isn't mine, there was no backup. That's the real world
[14:47] <sebsebseb> sandra_: well you could ask them in #xubuntu about that as well
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> paranoid_ndroid: if data is important it shouold be backed up.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> paranoid_ndroid: its that simple
[14:48] <phlak_user> _chun: dmesg will show up some information
[14:48] <paranoid_ndroid> ActionParsnip, I agree with you and preach it, but you know nobody cares
[14:48] <sandra_> phlak_user:I did install pavucontrol as a work around :-)
[14:48] <syn3rgy> Seems Synaptic is gone. How do I choose to reinstall a program?????
[14:48] <phlak_user> sandra_: ok
[14:48] <paranoid_ndroid> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[14:48] <parcs> is vim-gnome not supposed to show up in the applications hierarchy? (i'm running 10.04 LTS)
[14:48] <solancer> I know I know, I love Ubuntu too but I am in need of a stable system to work on...
[14:48] <alvin47> dr_willis: hey dude, i'm having a trouble with the netbook-launcher-efl (the 2D version) in ubuntu 10.04,, it's always disappearing..autokilling
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> TRaSsHie: you should be able to set the sound scheme there
[14:49] <Ibis> paranoid_ndroid: Even I dun care. xD
[14:49] <Ibis> (Actually, I do :S)
[14:49] <sebsebseb> syn3rgy: yep the plan for quite a while has been to replace Synaptic with Software Centre, but you can still install Synaptic of course :)
[14:49] <Gentoo64> solancer: use something else then
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> paranoid_ndroid: the nautilus running with gksudo will give you all the access you can need.
[14:49] <paranoid_ndroid> ActionParsnip, excellent!
[14:49] <sebsebseb> syn3rgy: oen the terminal,  sudo apt-get install synaptic  put in your password and done :D
[14:49] <sebsebseb> !synaptic
[14:49] <syn3rgy> sebsebseb, ahhh thank you.
[14:49] <Ibis> syn3rgy: Woah, extremely weird. Mayve: sudo apt-get install synaptic?
[14:49] <sebsebseb> syn3rgy: no problem your welcome
[14:49] <solancer> Its not just banshe, when I work on eclipse c++ it crashes on me ...
[14:49] <TRaSsHie> ActionParsnip, there's no GNome Login Startup Sound in my startup application.
[14:50] <nameless`> hi there
[14:50] <Ibis> solancer: Error messages?
[14:50] <llutz> solancer: ".. but I am in need of a stable system .." why did you perform an upgreade a few days after release then?
[14:50] <dpierce> ^^ this
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> solancer: if you wait a few weeks or so, the OS will mature and work ok. Its still extremely young. Why not reinstall Natty....
[14:50] <solancer> Ya it said something about a unsupported repository ...
[14:50] <BoulderDave> In my crontab, can i 'cd' to a directory before a command is ran? i have that as an entry before a command that requires it be ran from that location, and it doesn't seem to be working
[14:50] <Ibis> solancer: Exact error message please?
[14:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: uhmm I think the bugs pretty much stay  after release though, except for security issues? and maybe some backports? or am I wrong?
[14:51] <Ibis> BoulderDave: Sure. Go for it.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: some do, but your releases always have teething issues
[14:51] <BoulderDave> Ibis, I have 'cd <the_dir>' as an entry, but its still not working.. is that the correct way to do it?
[14:51] <nameless`> i made a script to increase or decrease the brightness of my screen (because there is a problem with the intel driver). This script needs to run the command "setpci" as root. as this script is called when a special key is hitted, the user is my local user and i don't want to ask for a password
[14:51] <glebihan> BoulderDave, instead of using cd, you could just directly put the full path to the executable file
[14:51] <BoulderDave> The command is not working
[14:52] <nameless`> so i added the following line in my sudoers :   user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/setpci  but it doesn't work !
[14:52] <christian__1> i installed a new version of some libs, when i am compiling the project now, the linker reports error about undefined referecne to functions in the lib... but the lib is in the same directory then the old one was
[14:52] <christian__1> so why the hell is the linker complaining
[14:52] <christian__1> :)
[14:52] <dpierce> ActionParsnip: does canonical ever resync the sid repos to the more stable ones after release?
[14:52] <sandra_> I find it disapointing that ubuntu did not deal with the 'nautilus-open-terminal' & "nautilus-gsku" bugs I use both options regularly.
[14:52] <solancer> I'l just reinstall it and get bk to ya guys......
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> dpierce: no idea, sorry
[14:53] <BoulderDave> glebihan, I'm using the full path, but an extra parameter (the 'sub command name')  isn't recognized unless im actually in that directory
[14:53] <Ibis> BoulderDave: 7 0 * * * cd /home/somethingBeautiful && ./runLovely.script
[14:53] <nameless`> anyone can tell why my sudoers line doesn't work ?
[14:53] <mkanyicy> nameless`: man visudo
[14:53] <BoulderDave> Ibis, I had it as a seperate line, i'll try that, thanks!
[14:53] <sandra_> implementing "nautilus-open-terminal" destabilizes nautilus completely . they should of fixed that.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> BoulderDave: if you have a desktop UI, use gnome-schedule :)
[14:54] <plain-user> can anyone help me remember a game name? pc platform, pre 2004 definitely. first person look. a lot of magic used, need to kill ghosts and open doors to get around levels. scary at times. i think you can have the inventory screen or a backpack of some sort. one of the character's hand is a dragon's head that can shoot fireballs(not sure, just do magic attacks)
[14:54] <dayson> sebsebseb, on 11.10 now
[14:54] <nameless`> mkanyicy: doesn't help me anbd i think you meant man sudoers
[14:54] <BoulderDave> ActionParsnip, no desktop UI
[14:54] <sebsebseb> dayson: oh ok
[14:54] <Gentoo64> plain-user: 2d rpg?
[14:54] <Ibis> nameless`: Pastebin it please. (Don't paste passwords in it if it's in that file).
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> BoulderDave: gotcha
[14:54] <nameless`> Ibis: ok
[14:54] <deebee> plain-user: !offtopic
[14:54] <AnJay> hi guys, I want change gnome default mount option, how do I do ??
[14:54] <plain-user> =(
[14:54] <mkanyicy> nameless`: yes you got it
[14:54] <deebee> !offtopic | plain-user
[14:54] <plain-user> i know. but i'm on ubuntu now!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> plain-user: secret of mana? Zelda?
[14:55] <christian__1> oouuhhm, i totally forgot to recompile the old libs, which depends on the libs i updated ok ok ok
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> plain-user: like that?
[14:55] <christian__1> now the interesting part comes ^^ if the bug is not fixed in 1.42, all the work was for the monkeys
[14:55] <dpierce> ActionParsnip: fair enough. would solve a lot of the bug issues though. certainly a better idea than the monthly cut-like "rolling" release being talked about
[14:56] <nameless`> Ibis: http://pastebin.com/HA07kh0j
[14:56] <Ibis> plain-user: Then you would ask "How can I get this insertgame-name-here" in Ubuntu
[14:56] <dpierce> plain-user: maybe ask in #dosbox
[14:56] <ffuser> hi
[14:56] <Gentoo64> hi
[14:56] <zastaph> I disabled the app menu using http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html however I still have a black line above on my monitors that makes it impossible to un-maximize windows :(
[14:57] <mkanyicy> hi ffuser
[14:57] <ffuser> there is a way to upgrade Ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 without updating kernel and grub?
[14:57] <christian__1> :D finalllyy
[14:57] <christian__1> guys
[14:57] <BoulderDave> Ibis, thanks that did it!  Had to put it all on one entry :)
[14:57] <christian__1> thx
[14:57] <edbian> ffuser: no (not an easy one)
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ffuser: the new kernel will more than likely be needed to make most stuff work, you can always keep booting to the natty kernel but you may get issues
[14:57] <AnJay> hi guys , how can I change gnome default mount option ?
[14:57] <christian__1> some other question:
[14:57] <AnJay> any idea??
[14:57] <dayson> when u click on an icon in the top right panel, do u have to keep the click held for the drop menu to not disappear?
[14:57] <christian__1> do you guys now a way how to debug bash scripts ??
[14:58] <christian__1> like a step by step debug
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> christian__1: I'd ask in #bash as well
[14:58] <christian__1> not echoing out
[14:58] <Ibis> BoulderDave: Note:  ONE AMPERSAND   means  "   ./runthiscommand   &   ./thatSillyCommand   " At the same time. Simutaneously.
[14:58] <christian__1> ok thank you i will ask there :)
[14:58] <ffuser> ActionParsnip: I can't upgrade my kernel cause I don't have support for initrd and I don't have grub
[14:58] <BoulderDave> Ibis, right, thanks for the clarification :)
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> christian__1: could start at the top and output variables and such, so you can see what's going on. Comment out most of the lines and you can see what's going on
[14:59] <ffuser> so If I make a typicall upgrade will fail
[14:59] <Ibis> BoulderDave: DOUBLE AMPERSAND means "   ./runThisCommandFirst   &&   ./andThenRunThisCommandAFTERtheFirstCommandISDone   &&   AndRunThisAfterTheSecondCommand"
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ffuser: how do you boot without grub? lilo?
[14:59] <andoreij> guys
[14:59] <ffuser> ActionParsnip: it's a linux image embeeded with the kernel
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Ibis: previous command has to succeed
[14:59] <Ibis> ActionParsnip: Ah yea. that too...
[14:59] <ffuser> a hack to run this on a netbook
[15:00] <andoreij> what is the minniumum requirements for a gnome gui server?
[15:00] <sebsebseb> !server | andoreij
[15:00] <christian__1> i need this for work... i need to find a way how to debug bash/uc4 scripts, but without echoing or changing source
[15:00] <nameless`> here is my sudoers file, http://pastebin.com/HA07kh0j why is it still asking me for a password when trying the command $ sudo /usr/bin/setpci ?
[15:00] <Gentoo64> andoreij: id say 2gb ram to be smooth
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> andoreij: same as the desktop OS..... as that's what it will be
[15:01] <andoreij> Damn, alright I have a vps with 256 and its says, cuold not launch, Failed to fork
[15:01] <s103871> I just installed ubuntu but it wont boot to login screen
[15:01] <Gentoo64> andoreij: use a console server
[15:01] <deebee> christian__1: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_02_03.html
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> andoreij: minimum is 256Mb but it will struggle, If you use Lubuntu you will get a lighter OS
[15:01] <Gentoo64> andoreij: or openbox or something
[15:01] <mkanyicy> ffuser: the kernel has to be upgraded. otherwise, even if you manage to get the upgrade to oneiric going, it will be so unstable
[15:01] <ffuser> ActionParsnip: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/cr-48-chrome-notebook-developer-information/how-to-boot-ubuntu-on-a-cr-48 that's it
[15:01] <andoreij> Alright thanks guys!
[15:02] <christian__1> thank you deebee
[15:02] <andoreij> I think I might upgrade my vs
[15:02] <andoreij> *vps
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ffuser: why not just keep chromeOS on it.....
[15:02] <Gentoo64> andoreij: is it a pure server?
[15:02] <compdoc> Ubuntu 11.10 doesnt seem to support vncserver because there's no X Window installed. Is that right?
[15:02] <Gentoo64> andoreij: or desktop as well
[15:02] <andoreij> Gentoo64: No it came with the ubuntu template
[15:02] <andoreij> scratch
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: of course there is an X server....
[15:02] <andoreij> only the terminal
[15:02] <andoreij> ssh
[15:02] <plain-user> Gentoo64, 3d. ActionParsnip no, first person const. Ibis, when I find the name, I will ask how to run it!
[15:02] <rhin0> compdoc I don't think 11.10 is gnome/X any more?
[15:02] <andoreij> But I installed the gnome
[15:02] <plain-user> dpierce, thanks.
[15:02] <rhin0> it's certainly not gnome
[15:02] <flummy> is KBibTeX somewhere in natty? i just found the "deleted" reference https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/kbibtex citing a very strange debian bug report
[15:02] <ffuser> ActionParsnip: because I want more control to my netbook
[15:03] <glebihan> rhin0, actually it's X and gnome
[15:03] <AnJay> did anyone see my message ??  How can I change the gnome default mount option??
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: run:  ps -ef | grep X
[15:03] <rhin0> ok
[15:03] <xangua> rhin0: compdocunity runs on top of gnome
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ffuser: worth it for all the headache you are having....?
[15:03] <rhin0> i thought gnome desktop was gone the menus etc
[15:03] <andoreij> wait.. is there anything lighter then genome-core?
[15:04] <dayson> I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10... To get the full Gnome 3 experience, I should just install the gnome-shell package? (and can I roll this process back too?)
[15:04] <ffuser> ActionParsnip: it's fun
[15:04] <Gentoo64> andoreij: ubunt ucomes with different des
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: unity is simply a shell for Gnome, Gnome still runs and so does X
[15:04] <xangua> dayson: unity runs on top of gnome
[15:04] <andoreij> Gentoo64: I know but if is there any alternative to the genome core that is lighter
[15:04] <nameless`> Ibis: up ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> dayson: sure, you can remove it if you want
[15:04] <dpierce> plain-user: or the abandonia forums
[15:04] <Ibis> nameless`: What exactly did you change in that file?
[15:05] <rhin0> what will give me my 10.04/11.04 gnome menus in 11.10?
[15:05] <Gentoo64> andoreij: xfce, openbox etc
[15:05] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, when trying to run vncserver, theres a message about no .xauthority file, or something like. DO you know why vncserver doesnt work with Unity?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | rhin0
[15:05] <Ibis> ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/setpci, /usr/bin/brightness            <----- SPACE next to the equal sign.
[15:05] <SIrDerigo> hi, i am having problems with the iwlwifi kernel module, i cant get my wireless working
[15:05] <Ibis> @ nameless`.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: I don't use VNC. I find it clumsy and vulgar
[15:05] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, what would you use for headless servers?
[15:06] <SIrDerigo> its a intel centrino n 100 wireless adapter
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: ssh and web interfaces. Why do you use VNC? What do you do on the remote box?
[15:06] <rhin0> virtualbox.
[15:06] <compdoc> I use the desktop
[15:06] <diverdude> What is a good linux alternative to mspaint for windows? (not gimp)
[15:06] <compdoc> I like guis
[15:06] <nameless`> Ibis: i just fixed my problem, my user was in the admin/sudo group and the last line matched :)
[15:06] <Gentoo64> diverdude: pinata is similar to paint.net
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: doesn't answer the question....
[15:07] <nameless`> Ibis: i just put my line at the end :)
[15:07] <dpierce> diverdude: mtpaint is pretty quick and dirty
[15:07] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, in other words, there is nothing better
[15:07] <rhin0> dia is ok "dia" package ... but it's also boxes etc
[15:07] <diverdude> dpierce: yep, its wonderful...simple and has all necessary functions
[15:07] <rhin0> sure it draws too
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: what activities do you do on the remote system?
[15:07] <rhin0> v simple
[15:07] <rhin0> just like paint
[15:08] <diverdude> Gentoo64: pinata is not available in the repo?
[15:08] <dpierce> diverdude: the kde paint program is the most mspaint-like one ive seen though. have to pull in all those deps though
[15:08] <compdoc> administration
[15:08] <dayson> xangua, ActionParsnip I'm totally confused now. How do I try this --> http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ (the way it appears there)
[15:08] <deebee> ActionParsnip: He wants to to do remote desktop. If that's his preference then that's his preference.
[15:08] <compdoc> maintenance
[15:08] <Ibis> Sweet nameless`.
[15:08] <Gentoo64> diverdude: sorry my bad. ive never tried it myself
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> deebee: just offering insight into alternatives
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: like what, updates? You can do that easily via ssh.
[15:08] <rhin0> if you're using remote desktop and can't get control of the desktop turn off desktop effects on the server machine (machine you remote into) via the menu at login
[15:09] <Justice> how do i remove restricted drivers from terminal ?'
[15:09] <xangua> dayson: install gnome shell
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: torrent clients have web interfaces so you can manage those using that,its a GUI....
[15:09] <mkanyicy> diverdude: krita (kde)
[15:09] <maikls> ok will ask different - i installed ubuntu, but it's too slow for me. Now my cd-rom is dead, but i whant to install clear lubuntu. Is it possible from inside this instllation of ubuntu?
[15:09] <MrGeneral> <.<
[15:09] <compdoc> I'll stick with 11.04 on my servers
[15:10] <edbian> maikls: just install lxde
[15:10] <edbian> maikls: and use it :)
[15:10] <localg0d> hello all ..
[15:10] <edbian> localg0d: hi
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> how do i disable usernames at login screen?
[15:10] <plain-user> found the game! Clive Barker's Undying! +)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: basically there are a million sleeker ways to do most things
[15:10] <localg0d> I am having a problem where all I get is a blank screen no matter which screen saver I chose except for like 3 being fiberlamp and the floating gnome feet etc .. Any clues ?
[15:10] <raven> gnome3 how to get classical panels?
[15:11] <maikls> edbian, I just think that I messed up main installation, it's laggy and full with bugs. And i installed xfce4 but lags still are ;/
[15:11] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, ssh is in no way 'sleek'
[15:11] <rhin0> maikls never installed lubuntu -- not something that you can jnust switch to from inside ubuntu -- it's unrelated -- better to backup and make a clean install of lubuntu - or install it next to ubuntu - you'll probably be able to access the ubuntu volume from lubuntu
[15:11] <edbian> maikls: what are the specs of the system?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: well if you tell me what you do, I can suggest solutions....
[15:11] <cutiyar> when turnning on ubuntu every time ask network configuration,how to fix it?
[15:11] <Justice> how do i remove the restricted driver from nvidia when running in terminal ?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/07/03/disable-login-screen-user-list-ubuntu/
[15:11] <maikls> edbian, 1,6ghz amd, 1,2gb ram and 32mb video
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Actionparsnip:tnx lemme take a look
[15:12] <BioKey> Hi, I installed Jupiter on my laptop using the webupd8team ppas, but the icon doesn't show up. Any ideas ?
[15:12] <edbian> rhin0: you can switch to gnome 3 or kde or lxde or whatever in ubuntu
[15:12] <rhin0> you mean you can't run x anymore justice?  ...
[15:12] <edbian> maikls: That should be fine
[15:12] <Justice> rhin0, that is correct
[15:12] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, I want to log into the dekstop of a headless system. VNC does that. what else can that Unity supports?
[15:12] <dayson> is gnome shell the same thing as this? http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Justice: dpkg -l | grep nvidia    will list some packages, I believe you will want to remove nvidia-current
[15:12] <rhin0> you've got to identify the package justice
[15:12] <maikls> edbian, not for normal ubuntu.
[15:12] <wilhart> what was the booster distro in ubuntu that speeds up old computers=?
[15:12] <wilhart> 10.11 ?
[15:12] <rhin0> then it's sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: I give up, if you can't answer a simple question then I won't waste my time
[15:12] <Gentoo64> wilhart: booster?
[15:13] <Prince> hi my kernel drops connection on my torrent port, saying "TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 64271. Dropping request." I have set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies to 0
[15:13] <wilhart> Gentoo64: yes, so it makes it faster
[15:13] <edbian> maikls: maybe try a reinstall, the system should work fine
[15:13] <localg0d> I am having a problem where all I get is a blank screen no matter which screen saver I chose except for like 3 being fiberlamp and the floating gnome feet etc .. Any clues ?
[15:13] <maikls> edbian, my cd-rom died ;D
[15:13] <Gentoo64> wilhart: there isnt... use a lighter distro for older comps
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: install a light DE like LXDE and your old system will soar once more :)
[15:13] <edbian> maikls: live USB?
[15:13] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, youve wasted mine - thanks
[15:13] <maikls> too old pc, no boot from usb
[15:13] <dpierce> wilhart: or a lighter WM/DE
[15:13] <flummy> is there a freenode channel for more advanced/technical/rarer problems?
[15:13] <Gentoo64> flummy: like what?
[15:13] <wilhart> well i have a 1.8ghz cpu
[15:13] <Gentoo64> ##linux is one
[15:13] <Justice> ActionParsnip, i got nvidia-173 and nvidia-common and nvidia-settings
[15:13] <Justice> remove them all ?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: how much ram?
[15:14] <edbian> maikls: try unetbootin
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> Actionparsnip: gconf-editor wont load on ocelot
[15:14] <Gentoo64> wilhart: with 1.2gb ram ud use lxde or openbox
[15:14] <wilhart> ActionParsnip: 0.5giga
[15:14] <Gentoo64> youll have a lot of ram free then
[15:14] <Justice> and what driver should i install ?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Justice: those 3 yes
[15:14] <deebee> compdoc: WHat exactly was the problem you're experiencing? Is it just slow?
[15:14] <flummy> Gentoo64: like the last four questions i dropped today :)
[15:14] <maikls> edbian, - my bios dont support boot from usb
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: hmm
[15:14] <dpierce> wilhart: lxde runs solid on an old 1.2 Ghz box i have with 512MB RAM
[15:14] <Ibis> Lubuntu is excellent.
[15:14] <dpierce> a bit sluggish... but its solid
[15:14] <edbian> maikls: you can use unetbootin and you don't need any medium (no cd, no live usb) it does it all with the hdd
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> wilhart: thats plenty, but a light DE will mean more RAM for apps
[15:14] <wilhart> dpierce: lxde hmm, i'll stick with ubu
[15:14] <Ibis> It never ran sluggish for me.
[15:14] <maikls> edbian,  ok will look for that. thx ;)
[15:14] <wilhart> dpierce: just disable all 3d stuff
[15:14] <edbian> maikls: sure
[15:15] <random42> hi my kernel drops connection on my torrent port, saying "TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 64271. Dropping request." I have set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies to 0
[15:15] <wilhart> dpierce: i run with xfce4
[15:15] <Gentoo64> wilhart: xuubnut is lighter than plain uubntu and still looks nice. looks nicer imo
[15:15] <Justice> ActionParsnip, what driver from nvidia should i use for the 6600go gpu ?
[15:15] <Ibis> wilhart: You can always: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop...
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> maikls: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux which you can boot to then boot usbb ;)
[15:15] <wilhart> Ibis: aah that way ok
[15:15] <Ibis> wilhart: Then you'll have both.
[15:15] <Gentoo64> random42: set it to 1
[15:15] <localg0d> will someone type my name .. wanna make sure /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS didn't ruin my highlighter in irssi
[15:15] <Ibis> wilhart: Also, you can also apt-get install a xubuntu desktop
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Justice: nvidia-current I use a 6150LE onboard and it runs with the 285 driver
[15:15] <Gentoo64> localg0d:
[15:15] <mkanyicy> lotuspsychje:  try "gksudo gdmsetup"
[15:15] <Ibis> localg0d: Okay.
[15:15] <random42> Gentoo64 that will simply make kernel set the syn cookies
[15:16] <localg0d> ty Gentoo64 .. and Ibis
[15:16] <localg0d> still works !
[15:16] <random42> I don't want that either
[15:16] <raven> gnome3 how to get classical panels?
[15:16] <wilhart> Ibis: ok tnx
[15:16] <wilhart> Ibis: i'm using xubuntu now
[15:16] <Ibis> !notunity < raven
[15:16] <localg0d> raven: u can choose old school looks at login by changing sessions to classical ubuntu ;)
[15:16] <wilhart> Ibis: i can't youtube fullscreen :_P
[15:16] <Ibis> !notunity > raven
[15:16] <Gentoo64> random42: why dont  you want them? they prevent that flood
[15:16] <ljsoftnet> im on xubuntu how do i make openbox a session?
[15:16] <T3CHKOMMIE> hello fellow smarty-pantses.....
[15:17] <localg0d> Ibis: did i give him the right answer , no ?
[15:17] <flummy> !notunity > flummy
[15:17] <Ibis> Hai there T3CHKOMMIE