[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> driver=drive
[00:00] <sub[t]rnl> or you could just go ahead and boot up the normal way, and enable the restricted driver with two clicks
[00:00] <JimBob> well, I did enable the driver with 2 clicks the normal way, but i says a reboot is required, which in turn would loose the setting (with a live dvd)...
[00:03] <Angelus> is it normal that wine crashes you're whole system?
[00:03] <Angelus> or is it because im using compiz=fusion and wine?
[00:04] <sub[t]rnl> shouldn't crash
[00:04] <sub[t]rnl> i run the two without problems
[00:04] <Angelus> hmm
[00:04] <sub[t]rnl> what are you trying to run in wine?
[00:04] <Angelus> when i kill the wine application, my computer becomes fast again
[00:04] <Angelus> Google Scetchup
[00:05] <Angelus> 3D application to scetch buildings
[00:05] <Angelus> creates 3D models of buildings
[00:06] <sub[t]rnl> check winehq database
[00:06] <sub[t]rnl> i'm sure its in there
[00:09] <JimBob> so, back to my proprietary ati driver question: since the 'normal' activation requires a reboot (which kinda nullifies its use with a live cd), is there any way to activate the driver before the actual bootup?
[00:09] <JimBob> I'm pretty sure *someone* must have faced such a problem before ;)
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need to reboot to use a new video driver, just restart X
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> Of course, I don't know if you can just restart X from the Live CD
[00:11] <JimBob> you can - i'll be right back after *this* short break ;)
[00:11] <biovore> ctrl-alt-backspace works I think..
[00:16] <Lam_> i can't seem to view anything in smb:/ because it times out on me.  i have samba and smbfs installed. does anyone know why?
[00:17] <hellraizor_> i know this much i can't get smb to work
[00:18] <sub[t]rnl> !samba
[00:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[00:18] <Lam_> well, i'm trying to access my kubuntu desktop, so it's not a windows thing
[00:19] <hellraizor_> well here in about 40 min. i'm goin to be on fedora
[00:19] <hellraizor_> downloading the live cd
[00:20] <hellraizor_> i have gentoo on one harddrive thought i see what fedora is like
[00:22] <hellraizor_> any one here use fedora
[00:22] <hellraizor_> or ever try it
[00:22] <blueyed> Does compiz work for you in Kubuntu/KDE? Here it says "Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0"; full terminal output at http://pastebin.com/d34530fcf - it used to work in the end of Gutsy development cycle and still works with Gnome.
[00:22] <hellraizor_> yes i get the same thang
[00:23] <blueyed> hellraizor_: the compiz one?
[00:23] <blueyed> Then I'll report a bug about it.
[00:23] <hellraizor_> did that
[00:23] <blueyed> ok, where?
[00:23] <hellraizor_> kubuntu on there site is a bug report
[00:24] <blueyed> hellraizor_: on launchpad.net
[00:24] <blueyed> ?
[00:24] <morphinex> anyone using gmaail imap with kmail?
[00:24] <hellraizor_> let me look
[00:24] <morphinex> And know how I can get rid of that annoying [Gmail] directory that duplicates everything in my inbox
[00:24] <blueyed> hellraizor_: I've not found something when searching for the error.
[00:25] <sub[t]rnl> blueyed: are you using compiz --replace
[00:25] <hellraizor_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[00:26] <blueyed> sub[t]rnl: yes, see the pastebin
[00:26] <blueyed> hellraizor_: that's not a bug url
[00:26] <ardchoille> I'm finding k3b to be more powerful than I thought.
[00:26] <blueyed> what's your launchpad.net account name, hellraizor_?
[00:26] <blueyed> sub[t]rnl: does it work for you?
[00:27] <sub[t]rnl> compiz? yeah
[00:27] <blueyed> sub[t]rnl: yes, it used to work for me, too - but I've not used it for a few days/weeks and now it does not anymore.
[00:28] <hellraizor_> looking for it i posted one time it's been somtime ago
[00:28] <blueyed> hellraizor_: if you tell me your account name then I could look in the bugs you've reported. Or did you forget that one actually?
[00:29] <BluesKaj> morphinex, I'm using the autofowarding feature in gmail to kmail
[00:29] <BluesKaj> if that's what you want to do
[00:30] <morphinex> BluesKaj: Well, I'm checking my gmail account using imap since they just implemented it
[00:31] <BluesKaj> why imap?
[00:31] <BluesKaj> never used it
[00:31] <morphinex> Because it is awesome ;)
[00:32] <morphinex> BluesKaj: it letrs you keep all your email clients in synch
[00:32] <morphinex> BluesKaj: by storing all the emails on the server
[00:32] <BluesKaj> what's different than pop mail
[00:33] <BluesKaj> think my ISP mail syaten rquires pop3
[00:33] <BluesKaj> system
[00:33] <morphinex> BluesKaj: POP just downloads the messages, whereas with imap your entire directory sturucture is duplicated on the server, so if you have a laptop and desktop you can keep them perfectly in synch
[00:34] <morphinex> BluesKaj: So when I reply to an email using my laptop, my desktop knows about that and the message is marked as replied to across all my email clients
[00:34] <BluesKaj> just my pc and wifes pc , no laptops ..
[00:35] <skeet> ok guys what do i have to do to get this http://youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI
[00:35] <BluesKaj> ok, gotcha morphinex
[00:36] <morphinex> BluesKaj: But the way gmail implements it is kidn of crazy and annoying, and I have to mark every read message as read twice
[00:36] <sub[t]rnl> skeet: compiz-fusion > beryl
[00:36] <sub[t]rnl> beryl's a dated relic
[00:37] <blueyed> skeet: try "compiz --replace" in a konsole
[00:37] <blueyed> (for a start)
[00:37] <bazhang> in a console I think you add the &
[00:38] <bazhang> alt +f2 for the one without ;}
[00:38] <sub[t]rnl> the & free's the console
[00:38] <blueyed> bazhang: yes, you can - to have it in the background. But you should not close the konsole anyway, with or without "&" :)
[00:38] <rudy_> hola
[00:39] <BluesKaj> beryl, compiz-fusion ...just there to kill vista's eye candy thing
[00:39] <blueyed> Also, the konsole is handy to see what goes wrong, e.g. in my case.
[00:39] <rudy_> alguien que sepa hablar español
[00:39] <bazhang> blueyed: thanks for the tip!
[00:39] <bazhang> !es | rudy_
[00:39] <ubotu> rudy_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[00:39] <blueyed> bazhang: so it works for you?
[00:39] <bazhang> oh yeah
[00:40] <rudy_> gracias
[00:40] <danny> how do i delete partions on kubuntu 7.04
[00:40] <bazhang> no problem
[00:40] <danny> i have it installed on hdd drive
[00:40] <danny> partitions
[00:40] <blueyed> danny, try gparted
[00:40] <nosrednaekim> danny: get qtparted
[00:40] <skeet> skeet@TheLoveShack:~$ compiz --replace
[00:40] <skeet> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[00:40] <skeet> Blacklisted PCIID '1002:4153' found
[00:40] <skeet> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[00:40] <skeet> Not initializing the Gtk-Qt theme engine
[00:40] <danny> get it in adept
[00:41] <danny> ?
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> skeet: what card is that?
[00:41] <[ifr0g]> Where are the setting for the distance bet icons.. etc ??
[00:41] <skeet> ati radeon 9550
[00:41] <cooler> how do I search for other irc channels?
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> skeet: what driver?
[00:41] <blueyed> cooler: in Konversation?
[00:41] <skeet> idk
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> skeet: did you get the restricted one>
[00:42] <cooler> yes, does any kind of a list exsist?
[00:42] <skeet> i think so
[00:42] <blueyed> cooler: press F5
[00:42] <cooler> how can I speak direcly to you - whisper?
[00:42] <jacques> did you guys using kmail and gmail, ever have kmail dump messages from the inbox to "all mail" folder
[00:42] <cooler> like you do to me?
[00:42] <webvictim> /query blueyed
[00:43] <blueyed> cooler: I'm not querying you. I just put your nick in front of the message.
[00:43] <cooler> aaaaaaaaa
[00:43] <cooler> :)
[00:43] <blueyed> cooler: try "blu<tab>" :)
[00:43] <webvictim> oh, heh :P
[00:43] <danny> i need a konsole comand to get qparted please help, or just a command to get a partition remover
[00:44] <webvictim> isn't it "qtparted"?
[00:44] <wesley> how do i take a screenshot with compiz fusion i push the window button and 1 but nothing happings ( plugin is on )
[00:44] <danny> yes
[00:44] <blueyed> danny: parted then.
[00:44] <danny> parted?
[00:44] <blueyed> for a console tool
[00:44] <cooler> blueyed: thx for helo :)
[00:44] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[00:44] <skeet> so what should i do now?
[00:45] <BluesKaj> or, sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:46] <danny> none work
[00:46] <BluesKaj> danny, pls expalin in more detail
[00:47] <danny> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:47] <danny> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:47] <bazhang> skeet: do you have the advanced desktop effects manager installed?
[00:47] <skeet> i think so ya
[00:47] <blueyed> danny: use "sudo" in front of the command
[00:47] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | danny
[00:47] <ubotu> danny: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:48] <bazhang> should be in the menu under settings
[00:48] <bazhang> the kmenu, that is
[00:49] <danny> ok
[00:49] <danny> i did
[00:49] <bazhang> danny: the drivers for 3D effects for that card installed?
[00:49] <cooler> boyz on the #firefox channel are not of big help so I'll put my question once more here
[00:50] <danny> no
[00:50] <cooler> so if anybody can helop plese do
[00:50] <cooler> I'll go crazy with this one
[00:50] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I use kubuntu 7.10 and I have pretty nasty problem with firefox that I cannot fix
[00:50] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I cannot install any extensions
[00:50] <cooler> [01:47] <cooler> when I click on a "install now" button in most cases nothing happens
[00:50] <cooler> [01:48] <cooler> sometimes after 4-5min appears pop up for install and when I click on the install button it begins with download but then it forzes I cant continue
[00:50] <danny> i dont know how to install it
[00:50] <danny> my graphics card is made by amd...........
[00:50] <cooler> does anybody have similar problem?
[00:50] <danny> anti radeon
[00:50] <bazhang> !ati
[00:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:52] <bazhang> cooler: which extensions?
[00:53] <cooler> bazhang: Not a single one
[00:53] <bazhang> strange
[00:54] <bazhang> cooler: you trying to install flash via firefox?
[00:54] <Admiral_Chicago> cooler: try #ubuntu-mozillateam
[00:54] <cooler> bazhang: no
[00:54] <cooler> Admiral_Chicago: I am but...
[00:55] <danny> its saying the graphics card pacage is not availibe
[00:55] <danny> availibe
[00:55] <bazhang> cooler: you got me there
[00:55] <danny> grr
[00:55] <danny> availible
[00:56] <[ifr0g]> Where are the setting for the distance bet icons.. etc ??
[00:57] <BluesKaj> danny, k-menu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers/admin mode /enable restricted driver/apply/close..reboot
[00:57] <danny> says drive is not availible............
[00:57] <danny> driver
[00:58] <danny> how do you delete partitions?
[00:58] <BluesKaj> err danny are you on gutsy?
[00:59] <danny> i dont know
[00:59] <BluesKaj> danny, in the konsole, lsb_release -a
[01:00] <blueyed> I've filed bug 159409 about "compiz --replace" not working anymore with KDE.
[01:00] <danny> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[01:00] <danny> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[01:00] <danny> Release:        7.10
[01:00] <danny> Codename:       gutsy
[01:00] <danny> yes
[01:00] <danny> but it doesn't show partion manager
[01:01] <Jucato> QtParted isn't installed on a default system. (even if it's there on the Live CD). you have to install it from Add/Remove Programs
[01:03] <danny> it wont let me install it
[01:03] <callaway> HOLY CRAP IT WORKS
[01:03] <callaway> !!!
[01:03] <callaway> ITZ ALIVE
[01:03] <callaway> LOL
[01:04] <Jucato> !caps | callaway
[01:04] <ubotu> callaway: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:04] <callaway> hahaha
[01:04] <BluesKaj> callaway, what werks ?
[01:04] <callaway> took me a month to get the modem working on kubuntu
[01:04] <callaway> HAHAha
[01:04] <Jucato> that's a long time O.o
[01:04] <callaway> i guess i am a little slooow
[01:05] <callaway> haha
[01:05] <callaway> dang martians
[01:06] <callaway> what lurks in this dark domain?
[01:06] <Angelus> how can i reload alsa in kubuntu??
[01:07] <callaway> alsa video driver or audio driver?
[01:07] <civilwest> Hello.....Dumb question but; is everyone here Ubuntu users?
[01:07] <webvictim> alsa is the audio driver :P
[01:07] <Angelus> audio
[01:07] <webvictim> and /etc/init.d/alsa restart ?
[01:08] <Angelus> there is no alsa in /etc/init.d/alsa
[01:08] <webvictim> civilwest: i'm not on it at the moment
[01:08] <webvictim> but i will be soon
[01:08] <blueyed> civilwest: yes, but mostly Kubuntu I believe.. :)
[01:08] <webvictim> ah, i remember
[01:08] <webvictim> alsactl restart
[01:08] <webvictim> something like that
[01:08] <callaway> wow getting that modem installed has been one of the hardest thing for me
[01:08] <civilwest> thanks
[01:09] <callaway> linux should come with a user friendly was to detect modems and sound cards
[01:09] <callaway> like autodetect
[01:11] <OmegaNine> Got a dumb question.  Just moved from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and it seems like the apt-get list is tiny.  can I just add the ubunutu feeds or is there a special place where I can get things like azurus for kubuntu?
[01:12] <callaway> how long has kubuntu been around ?
[01:12] <OmegaNine> Since the early ubuntu days
[01:12] <callaway> what year?
[01:13] <callaway> I am used to redhat
[01:13] <OmegaNine> Umm google will know :-P
[01:13] <Jucato> OmegaNine: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use/share the same repositories
[01:13] <Jucato> what Ubuntu has, Kubuntu has too.
[01:13] <Jucato> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/hoary-release.php <--- first release
[01:13] <callaway> kubuntu is Great for burning cds and using flash memory . It kicks ass all around that topic
[01:15] <OmegaNine> Weird, seems like stuff is missing, maybe its just im not connecting to the repositories....They come with the same lists by default?
[01:15] <Jucato> yes
[01:16] <callaway> oh its been around since 2005
[01:16] <callaway> I thought it was relased in 2006
[01:16] <OmegaNine> I was wrong, the first release was 5.*
[01:16] <Jucato> afaik, just one release behind Ubuntu
[01:17] <Jucato> (first Ubuntu was 4.10 iirc)
[01:17] <OmegaNine> Damn wikipedia and its sudo info :-P
[01:17] <wesley> wikipedia is useless everone can edit
[01:17] <OmegaNine> hehe
[01:17] <Jucato> everyone who has an account :)
[01:18] <wesley> no you dont need a account
[01:18] <Jucato> wikipedia is useful for gather related links though
[01:18] <Jucato> really? you needed an account to edit last I checked
[01:18] <callaway> you mean wikipedia contains false info?
[01:18] <Jucato> it may
[01:18] <OmegaNine> Yeah
[01:18] <hydrogen> wikipedia is awesome
[01:18] <callaway> thats scary
[01:18] <kyled185> popular articles will sometimes be restricted to non-anonymous users
[01:18] <OmegaNine> some times its like....Exactly wrong...Some times its shades of wrong
[01:19] <wesley> what ubunyu has is not real wikipedia
[01:19] <callaway> a encyclopedia with false info
[01:19] <Jucato> sometimes it's exactly right :)
[01:19] <Jucato> wesley: you seem to be confusing a "wiki" from "Wikipedia"
[01:19] <OmegaNine> I wouldn't bet a term papers grade on it though ;-)
[01:19] <Jucato> callaway: it never claimed to be an encyclopedia replacement
[01:19] <Sanne> wesley: I wouldn't say wikipedia is useless, you just have to read critically. It's good we have independent media for information.
[01:20] <Jucato> callaway: better research on what wikipedia really is :)
[01:20] <wesley> yes but everone can delete the infio
[01:20] <hydrogen> I'd say an encylopedia editable by everyone is more likely to be right than an encyclopedia edited by only a few
[01:20] <hydrogen> but
[01:20] <Jucato> wesley: not everyone. you need an account
[01:20] <hydrogen> thats off topic for this channel
[01:20] <OmegaNine> Agreed, but...Its right so much, I dont read it as critically as I should.
[01:20] <wesley> wikipedia is still editable by everone
[01:21] <Jucato> "You are not currently logged in. While you are free to edit without logging in, your IP address (which can be used to determine the associated network/corporation name) will be recorded publicly, along with the time and date, in this page's edit history. It is sometimes possible for others to identify you with this information. Creating an account will conceal your IP address and provide you with many other benefits. Messages sent to your IP can be
[01:21] <Jucato> viewed on your talk page."
[01:22] <wesley> mauw then you can still edit it its not that you ban or something
[01:22] <kyled185> is anyone here having trouble with ipw3945 being really flaky now with gutsy?
[01:22] <wesley> i have lucky no trouble more with gutsy
[01:22] <Jucato> yeah but 1) they can trace who did it 2) your IP info is exposed and 3) they can always revert
[01:23] <wesley> i dont think they do that and its not easy in the dutch
[01:23] <callaway> bbl
[01:23] <OmegaNine> kyled185, Its working fine on my laptop.  I dont use it for my main connection though, but when im out and about it holds up fine
[01:24] <posingaspopular> the britannica is edited by manatees
[01:25] <wesley> i got xboxlive for free
[01:25] <sledge> How do I rate-limit apt-get?
[01:26] <alien> hi all
[01:26] <posingaspopular> !hi | alien
[01:26] <ubotu> alien: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:27] <OmegaNine> sledge, Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20342.html
[01:27] <OmegaNine> Though I have never tried it myself
[01:28] <alien> Is there to automount an external usb hdd (ntfs) on gutsy ?
[01:28] <alien> (a way)
[01:28] <OmegaNine> Everything i see points to "trickle" though, and thats a howto on how to use it with apt-get
[01:28] <OmegaNine> alien, it should when you plug it in, or do you mean on boot?
[01:29] <alien> doesn't show when I switch it on
[01:30] <OmegaNine> :-\
[01:30] <OmegaNine> Are your USB drivers working?
[01:31] <alien> well, have no idea, I'm running gutsy updated and I installed usbmount just in case it was needed but nothing shows up
[01:32] <OmegaNine> Try "modprobe usb-ohci" and "modprobe usb-uhci"
[01:32] <OmegaNine> See if it returns modules for that
[01:32] <alien> k let me see
[01:32] <wispy> Well, I'm not getting any help in the #apache channel.. could someone direct me to an answer here maybe?
[01:32] <OmegaNine> I dont know THAT much about apache, but you can try....Lots of people smarter than me here
[01:32] <alien> modules not found
[01:33] <OmegaNine> alien, on both accounts?
[01:33] <Jucato> it is, however, offtopic... so best to wait in #apache
[01:33] <alien> both modules yup
[01:33] <OmegaNine> Oh, sorry
[01:33] <wispy> Keep trying there, then, eh?
[01:33] <OmegaNine> alien, give me a sec to google dork
[01:36] <OmegaNine> Have those USB ports ever worked?
[01:37] <alien> they did on feisty but I deleted feisty and reinstalled gutsy 2 days ago
[01:38] <dave__> help,when I login the login screen is way down in the bottom right corner, and i can just barely see my login fields because there almost off the screen, how do i fix this?
[01:39] <j1solutions> dave, hit the auto adjust butoon on your monitor
[01:39] <j1solutions> if not, boot into vga mode
[01:39] <OmegaNine> dave__, res to high for your monitor?
[01:39] <j1solutions> how do i join the fedora channel?
[01:40] <OmegaNine> lawl
[01:40] <skeet> how do i get into administrator mode?
[01:40] <OmegaNine> ./join <chan name>
[01:40] <dave__> j1soloutions, its not the screen, the screen supports the resoloution 1024x768
[01:40] <dave__> once i login everything is fine
[01:41] <dave__> it just seems to be the login screen is not seeing the resoloution change till after the loginn
[01:41] <OmegaNine> dave__, Yeah its the res, try setting it in xorg.conf
[01:41] <dave__> i did set it up in xorg
[01:41] <OmegaNine> alien, I am not finding anything.  I would check the ubuntu forums, if its not there, post for help
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> dave__: does your boot splash look right?
[01:41] <ardchoille> !sudo | skeet
[01:41] <ubotu> skeet: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:42] <dave__> yes
[01:42] <dave__> its just the login screen
[01:42] <alien> ok omeganine ty anyway
[01:42] <OmegaNine> NP, sorry I couldnt help
[01:42] <alien> np
[01:42] <skeet> no i need to get into admin mode so i can turn on an restricted driver
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> skeet: "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"
[01:43] <OmegaNine> sudo su
[01:43] <ronin_> Evening everyone. Is anyone currently using the 8.42.3 ATI fglrx driver?
[01:44] <ardchoille> OmegaNine: That's not good.
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: yeah... me
[01:45] <OmegaNine> ardchoille, He asked :P
[01:45] <ronin_> Is it being a pain the in the butt? Especially with respect to OpenGL apps?
[01:45] <ardchoille> OmegaNine: yes, and nosrednaekim gave him the recommended precedure :)
[01:45] <earl_> is there a command-line command to bring up the shutdown dialog box?
[01:46] <dave__> is there any way to changethe login screen resoloution?
[01:46] <OmegaNine> Sowwy :-)
[01:47] <OmegaNine> xorg must restart,  thanks for the help guys :-)
[01:47] <dave__> must be a driver bug
[01:48] <ardchoille> earl_: I've wondered that myself.. I'll ask in #kde
[01:48] <earl_> please
[01:48] <kgx> does anyone how i can figure out what caused a kernel panic. i can't make much sense ofthe log system log files
[01:49] <brandon> is there a howto somewhere on using kde4 instead of kde 3.5.7?
[01:49] <skeet> ok when i go into compiz fusion my comp freezes what should i do
[01:49] <dave__> kde 4 iasnt even out yet
[01:49] <dave__> *isnt
[01:49] <Jucato> brandon: depends on 1) where you got it from and 2) why you're trying to use it
[01:50] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: OpenGL is pretty much broken, it seems. Do you know a way to tweak or fix it? Or is it just a crappy driver revision
[01:50] <Jucato> but as of KDE 4 Beta 3, it's not really that suitable yet for non-developer testing
[01:50] <brandon> 1) canonical and 2) because i feel the need to
[01:50] <Jucato> (Beta 4 is a bit better, but we don't have packages yet)
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: works for me...is the kernel module laoding and accosiating?
[01:50] <skeet> i cant use compiz fusion or desktop effects...y?
[01:51] <Jucato> brandon: then see the kubuntu.org page for the beta3 release. it has instructions
[01:51] <dave__> lol
[01:51] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Er... how could I check that?
[01:54] <dave__> so nobody has heard of the graphical prob I have?
[01:54] <earl_> any luck ardchoille
[01:54] <kyled185> dave__, the login screen resolution?
[01:54] <ardchoille> earl_: Not in #kde, but I think I found it in kdcop. Want the command?
[01:55] <dave__> kyled185,ye
[01:55] <dave__> yes
[01:55] <ubuntu_admin> i have a boner! i spermed for the first time, i have a 5 incher! i had sex. Boner!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:55] <earl_> sure
[01:55] <ardchoille> earl_: Try this one: dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout
[01:55] <earl_> all of that?
[01:55] <ardchoille> dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout
[01:55] <ardchoille> all of that ^^
[01:56] <ardchoille> earl_: That's using dcop to comunicate with kdesktop
[01:56] <earl_> cool
[01:56] <earl_> i dont know what dcop is though
[01:56] <ardchoille> That's what kde uses to communicate between apps
[01:56] <Hirvinen> !ops | k5ubuntu /danny/ubuntu_/ubuntu_admin
[01:56] <webvictim> dcop is awesome
[01:56] <ubotu> k5ubuntu /danny/ubuntu_/ubuntu_admin: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:56] <earl_> ah
[01:57] <kyled185> dave__, I've had that problem before, I'm trying to figure out what I did
[01:57] <LjL> Hirvinen, he... just changed nicknames twice?
[01:57] <jjj543k3> dose any one here know how to change the kde start up sound? in kubuntu?
[01:57] <k5ubuntu> that was my friend
[01:57] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: I have the  ATI control panel and all that, and fglrxinfo comes out as ATI not MESA, so...maybe? Or is ther something else I need to check?
[01:57] <k5ubuntu> that wasnt me
[01:57] <LjL> !nickspam
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[01:57] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: try "glxinfo
[01:57] <Hirvinen> LjL: 0355 < ubuntu_admin> i have a boner! i spermed for the first time, i have a 5 incher! i had sex. Boner!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:57] <k5ubuntu> i apologize guys for the person who said that
[01:58] <Hirvinen> I was referring to that.
[01:58] <LjL> Hirvinen: ah, that.
[01:58] <k5ubuntu> i left my computer on and my friend thought that was funny
[01:58] <k5ubuntu> ..........
[01:58] <Hirvinen> k5ubuntu: Train your friends to behave.
[01:58] <earl_> ardchoille: it works like a charm.
[01:58] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: spits out a ton of info. What I am I looking for?
[01:58] <earl_> i even integrated that into kiba-dock
[01:58] <earl_> with a nice SVG button
[01:58] <k5ubuntu> i will tell him that =P
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: near the top, direct rendering
[01:58] <LjL> k5ubuntu, benefit of doubt once - next time it's a ban, though. lock your computer while you aren't using it is my advice.
[01:58] <ardchoille> earl_: That gives you the logout window and option to restart/shutdown?
[01:58] <k5ubuntu> ok
[01:58] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Direct Rendering = Yes
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: try "glxgears
[01:59] <k5ubuntu> its a live cd.........
[01:59] <earl_> yeah
[01:59] <earl_> it's sweet
[01:59] <ardchoille> earl_: alt+f2, kdcop
[01:59] <ronin_> Worked. >3K fps
[01:59] <ardchoille> earl_: Run that, that's what I used to figure it out :)
[02:00] <earl_> that's a bit above me =(
[02:00] <k5ubuntu> i will be right back guys
[02:01] <k5ubuntu> got to reset comoputer
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: so what is the problem exactly? everything seems good
[02:01] <k5ubuntu> computer*
[02:01] <ardchoille> earl_: ok, maybe learn about dcop when you have time. it's very nice for command-line commands
[02:01] <dave__> kyled, ok thanks
[02:01] <ubuntu__> algum  brasileiro?
[02:01] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: When I run 3d apps like WoW through Wine, or Planet Penguin racer, the  textures are for lack of a better explanation "messed up" looking
[02:02] <ronin_> Missing, incorrect location, etc
[02:02] <earl_> i'll give it a shot, ard
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: ah... that is probably an issue with the driver then,,
[02:02] <kyled185> dave__, can I see your x.org.conf ?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: its still not really "good"
[02:02] <earl_> ubuntu__ - tem outro canal para brasileiros
[02:02] <SudoKing> no espanol pleasea
[02:02] <webvictim> it's portuguese :P
[02:03] <SudoKing> lol
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:03] <ubuntu__> ??????????
[02:03] <earl_> that's portuguese, and i was explaining there's another channel for them =)
[02:03] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Such I've heard. I was wondering if there were tweaks to make them more useful
[02:03] <webvictim> and he was only explaining that there's a nother channel for it
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> !pt
[02:03] <webvictim> heh
[02:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:03] <webvictim> ssh lag ftl :(
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: don't think so
[02:03] <ubuntu__> ok thank you
[02:03] <dave__> kyled, ok just a sec
[02:03] <ronin_> !br
[02:03] <SudoKing> oh dear...
[02:03] <ronin_> oops, sorry. ^^
[02:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[02:03] <webvictim> ronin_: same language ;P
[02:04] <SudoKing> this is a little off topic
[02:04] <ronin_> FOr some reason I thought it worked by country ^^;
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: does compiz look good?
[02:04] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: I don't think I have compiz actually
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: ah ok... because that the "high point" of this release,AIGLX support
[02:04] <ardchoille> ronin_: It does, Portuguese is spoken in Brazil
[02:06] <ronin_> ardchoille: Ahh, yes I know. I had never seen anyone use a ! command for language :D Neat
[02:06] <ardchoille> :)
[02:06] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Do you have Compiz Fusion running?
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: yeah... thats what I use my 3d accel for
[02:07] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Nifty. I have a fair gfx card. I'll give it a go then. Do I just need to download the Compiz packages on the repos? Or is there a seperate compiz fusion, and those COmpiz ones are old?
[02:08] <Diskonnected> hey room; can somebody tell me what *Nix OS or Live CD's are good for building a custom router&firewall?
[02:08] <ronin_> For the full versions with all the shinyness, that is :D
[02:09] <Diskonnected> ??anybody know?
[02:09] <ronin_> Diskonnected: M0n0wall?  I forget a few others. Anyone else know some firewall distros
[02:09] <dave__> kyled185, where do i find it?
[02:09] <kyled185> its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <kyled185> !flood
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[02:09] <dave__> ok
[02:09] <Diskonnected> Ronin_: Will that act as a router AND a firewall?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: if you are on gutsy... everything is in main
[02:10] <garthis> Diskonnected: my friend did it with debian
[02:10] <kyled185> dave__, copy and paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:10] <Diskonnected> ok; how secure is it
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Diskonnected: Ipcop
[02:11] <Diskonnected> I just realized theres loads of trojans on my network so im reformatting everything and hopefully that will fix it; but i need to upgrade to a better firewall and router...i figure that would do it
[02:11] <Diskonnected> yeah IPCop is a good one i hear
[02:11] <Diskonnected> THanks for the ideas people:)
[02:11] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Main repo you mean?
[02:11] <poroto82> help with aircrack? anyone know a good tut¿?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: or universe or something like that :)
[02:12] <Diskonnected> what kind of hardware is needed for the basics; will it run on like a p2 or a p3 with 256MB ram?
[02:13] <dave__> kyled185,theres two conf files, conf and conf.1
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Ipcop? sure
[02:13] <ronin_> Oh okay. If I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy, should I grab the KDE addon for it too?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is kde
[02:14] <kyled185> dave__, let me see the regular xorg.conf
[02:14] <Diskonnected> ok kool ty guys an girlz:)
[02:14] <dave__> kyled, ok
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: get "emerald" no need for compiz-kde
[02:14] <dave__> kyled185,ok
[02:17] <ronin_> Ahh, okay. I've got it. Running Emerald shows...no themes?
[02:17] <dave__> kyled185, done
[02:17] <kyled185> dave__, ok tell me the URL
[02:18] <RogueJediZero> Hi.  No visible changes?
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> kyled185: thats going to need to be kdesudoded
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: try ctrl+alt+right arrow
[02:20] <dave__> kyled185,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42982/
[02:21] <chipbuddy> hehe, searching for go comes up with a lot of hits. i was wonding if someone could point me directly to one
[02:21] <kyled185> nosrednaekim, yeah eventually, but for now he's just going to take a peek in it :)
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> kyled185: oh ok..i'll let you handle it then ;)
[02:21] <RogueJediZero> chipbuddy: Try looking for gtkgo
[02:21] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Nothing? Right directional arrow on the arrow keys, right?
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: ah yeah.. I forgot... fglrx is blacklisted... just a sec
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: To bypass the ubuntu gutsy compiz blacklist on Intel: 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700 run «  echo SKIP_CHECKS=yes >> ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager  »  More info: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/
[02:22] <chipbuddy> roguejedizero: awesome, thanks. this is perfect
[02:22] <kyled185> dave__, what resolution and refresh rate do you want to be in?
[02:23] <RogueJediZero> chipbuddy: No problem. Just found another one too, called qgo
[02:23] <dave__> kyled185,1024x768 85htz
[02:23] <RogueJediZero> This one might integrate into Kubuntu better, visually
[02:24] <kyled185> dave__, and what does it run at?
[02:24] <dave__> same
[02:24] <nabl> Hi everyone.
[02:24] <dave__> kyled185, the login screen is my only prob
[02:25] <kyled185> dave__, er, yeah that's what I mean
[02:25] <nabl> I have a quick question for you...
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> hi nabl... go ahead
[02:25] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: I have a mobility x600. Damn.  Also, I get an error that it can't find a file or directory with that cmd
[02:26] <nabl> I'm trying to install KGtk from source, but when I type "./configure" it says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[02:26] <nzk> I'm having a small problem with Firefox. It unrecoverably freezes very often (every few minutes) which requires a restart. Anything I can do?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: oh right... install "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> nabl: are you inthe Kgtk directory?
[02:26] <nabl> yeah
[02:27] <nabl> here's the ls output...
[02:27] <nabl> AUTHORS    CMakeLists.txt  COPYING    kdialogd4         mangled.sh  README
[02:27] <nabl> ChangeLog  common          gtk2       kdialogd-wrapper  qt3         TODO
[02:27] <nabl> cmake      config.h.cmake  kdialogd3  kgtk-wrapper      qt4
[02:27] <hydrogen> ..
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> !paste
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[02:27] <hydrogen> SPAM
[02:27] <hydrogen> anyways
[02:27] <hydrogen> its using cmake
[02:27] <ardchoille> nabl: running "./configure" simply tells the system to run the file named "configure" which shoulkd be in the same dir you are in. If there is not a "configure" file there, thenn you will get that error.
[02:27] <hydrogen> not auto*
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> nabl: did you read the README?
[02:27] <hydrogen> so you can't ./configure
[02:28] <nabl> oh wait...
[02:28] <k5ubuntu> i need help installing compiz im unpackaging it right now once done then what
[02:28] <kyled185> dave__, does it look like it's running at 800x600 and extends beyond the physical screen?
[02:28] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Done. Should I issue that command again?
[02:28] <nabl> never mind, I figured it out.
[02:28] <hydrogen> !compiz | k5ubuntu
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> k5ubuntu: are you on the liveCD still?
[02:28] <ubotu> k5ubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:28] <nabl> Thanks for your help.
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: yeah.
[02:28] <dave__> kyled,yes
[02:28] <k5ubuntu> ty
[02:29] <nabl> I'll ask if I have any more questions.
[02:29] <k5ubuntu> im installing it now
[02:29] <dave__> kyled185,yes
[02:29] <k5ubuntu> on to a hdd drive
[02:29] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Done. No errors this time.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: k...try "compiz --replace" again.
[02:29] <kyled185> dave__, ok open up the konsole
[02:30] <supert0nes> does anyone here use mouse over to focus?
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> superused to...
[02:30] <RogueJediZero> Does anyone have a clue how to check this out of svn? http://quake.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/quake/quake2/trunk/
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> supert0nes: used to
[02:30] <dave__> kyled185,ok
[02:30] <kyled185> dave__, type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:30] <supert0nes> I wish there was one change to it, clicked to focus windows should stay focused for a few seconds
[02:30] <RogueJediZero> The homepage, strangely enough, only suppliescvs instructions
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> RogueJediZero: I think a simple "svn co <url>"should do
[02:30] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Okay, done. No errors, but nothing happening.
[02:30] <supert0nes> or a certain amount of movement should change it
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: run it from a terminal
[02:30] <usuario> anybody help-me?
[02:31] <kyled185> dave__, then type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:31] <k5ubuntu> !patience | usuario
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[02:31] <kyled185> dave__, go to the part that says Section "Screen"
[02:31] <supert0nes> like when i open a new terminal i just want to type not put the mouse over and then type
[02:31] <kyled185> dave__, it starts at line 99
[02:31] <usuario> i'm only getting started here
[02:31] <usuario> and i need some help about LINUX
[02:32] <k5ubuntu> sure
[02:32] <k5ubuntu> go ahead
[02:32] <kyled185> dave__, you there?
[02:32] <ronin_> Going to need to pastebin this...
[02:32] <RogueJediZero> nosrednaekim: Tried that already. This is what happens: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m4c110a4a
[02:32] <ronin_> !pastebin
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[02:32] <usuario> I want to install some software, but i don' t know how about this
[02:33] <k5ubuntu> sure what kind of software
[02:33] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42983/ this is what occured
[02:33] <dave__> kyled185, yeah just slow at typing
[02:33] <k5ubuntu> you want to install linux to a hardrive or like a software for something
[02:33] <hydrogen> kmenu->add/remove programs.
[02:33] <usuario> i want to install some software, as photoshop, coreldraw...
[02:33] <k5ubuntu> ok
[02:33] <hydrogen> there are equivelents to those that run under linux
[02:34] <usuario> and drivers, as TV TUNER PRO
[02:34] <kyled185> dave__, ok, now down where it says Virtual 1400 1050
[02:34] <hydrogen> functional equivilents
[02:34] <hydrogen> browese around add/remove programs
[02:34] <dave__> kyled185, that should take me about a half hour..brb :-/
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: ah.... at the end of your Xorg config file you have compozite extention disabled
[02:34] <k5ubuntu> well im pretty new and i do know some stuff but i cant answer technical problems or hep installing software such as that
[02:34] <usuario> can i install it under linux, with windows
[02:34] <usuario> ?
[02:35] <k5ubuntu> hmm
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> usuario: the first two will not work, the tuner might
[02:35] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Oh, what should I look for?
[02:35] <RogueJediZero> usuario: Unfortunately, no. However, I would reccomend checking out GIMP, Inkscape, Krita or Karbon17
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | usuario
[02:35] <ubotu> usuario: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:35] <dave__> kyled185, keep typing i can catch up with history
[02:35] <OmegaNine> Can someone recomend a nvidia howto?
[02:35] <kyled185> dave__, ok
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> ronin_:  near the end, should be something about extention composite
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: really, AT the end
[02:36] <usuario> thanks... i will see it...
[02:36] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Change "Disable" to "Enable" ?
[02:37] <usuario> I want to install a windows XP with Linux. Because iḿ a designer, and i need to work with files as CDR and PSD
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: delete the section altogether
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> !virtualbox
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[02:37] <kyled185> dave__, replace Virtual 1400 1050 with Virtual 1024 768
[02:37] <ronin_> nosrednaekim:  Okay, done.  Why is that bad, exactly?
[02:37] <redshadowhero> Would someone know how to remap keyboard buttons on Kubuntu?
[02:37] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: What is composite and why is it disabled etc?
[02:37] <vellakd> I don't
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: it was for the previous fglrx driver, which didn't support it
[02:38] <kyled185> dave__, and where it says Modes and then a ton of resolutions and refresh rates
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: it does... different things... IDK;)
[02:38] <redshadowhero> ...vellakd: so, wait, I get on here to ask the question for you, and then you respond like that?! >:o
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: restart X
[02:38] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: What's the quick restart on that? ^^;
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+bckspace?
[02:39] <kyled185> dave__, cut "1024x768@85" and put it right in front of the first resolution "800x600@60" make sure there's a space or tab in between the two resolutions
[02:40] <kyled185> dave__, now, as a disclaimer, messing with this file can potentially make the GUI not start and will leave you at a command line system
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: anything?
[02:42] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Okay, X not dead.
[02:42] <ronin_> Nothing shiny though
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> run that command again
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> "compiz --replace
[02:42] <kyled185> dave__, if that happens (which is highly unlikely, the changes we made are fairly benign) just type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:42] <kyled185> dave__, and reboot and it should be back to the way it was before
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: anything :)
[02:43] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Okay, it "worked" but now I don't have any....er.. borders?
[02:43] <ronin_> Ie. This window takes up the whole screen
[02:44] <kyled185> dave__, alright, with the disclaimer out of the way, to make the changes take effect, save and close that file.  then logout (you might need to press ctrl+alt+backspace)
[02:44] <martalli> How can I run a jar file?
[02:44] <LjL> martalli: java -jar filename.jar
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: errrr.... alt+f2 "kwin --replace"
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: and, unfortunately, I have to go... go to #compiz-fusion for help:)
[02:44] <martalli> LjL: thanks
[02:45] <ronin_> nosrednaekim: Thanks for your help! Iappreciate it!
[02:46] <dave__> kyled185, between 800x600@60 and the 768 above it?
[02:47] <Gun_Smoke> I hate to cross post, but does anyone know how to adapt the theme from BackTrack.. Its dark, clean... perfect..
[02:47] <kyled185> dave__, here, I'll show you what it should look like
[02:48] <Diskonnected> hi room
[02:48] <Diskonnected> can someone help me figure something out?
[02:48] <awag> can anyone here give me help with skim? it worked great in feisty, but with gutsy installed it won't let me change input methods
[02:48] <kyled185> dave__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42984/
[02:49] <RogueJediZero> Diskonnected: Depends. What can we help you with?
[02:50] <Diskonnected> RogueJediZero: I need to figure out how im supposed to use IPCop is it a Firewall and a Router or just a firewall and if its not a router where do i place it(behind router directly on the internet or what??
[02:50] <Creationist> I currently have an nVidia Geforce 6200.  I ordered a 7600GT which I'll be recieving tomorrow.  Is there anything I need to do before shutting down to install it?
[02:51] <Tm_T> Creationist: ummm, make sure you have nvidia-glx-new installed
[02:51] <Tm_T> Creationist: umm, what your nick is meaning?
[02:52] <RogueJediZero> Diskonnected: I haven't used Ipcop myself, but it looks like a firewall for your computer
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> Creationist- I believe the 6xxx and 7xxx cards use the same drivers
[02:53] <Creationist> Tm_T: I'm a creationist, as opposed to an evolutionist ;)
[02:54] <yurimxpxman> (compiz-fusion problem) any idea what's going on with this? http://yurimxpxman.dyndns.org/paste
[02:54] <Tm_T> Creationist: humm, thats quite religious
[02:54] <Creationist> Dragnslcr: So, I assume it's not like Windows where I need to uninstall the drivers, install the card, and then reboot.
[02:54] <Tm_T> Creationist: can I ask to change your nick?
[02:54] <dave__> kyled185,the formatting is different in the paste than the console, does it matter if the colomns are more than 4rows accross?
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Creationist- I wouldn't think so
[02:54] <hydrogen> Tm_T: and your name is quite almost explosive!
[02:54] <Tm_T> hydrogen: it is
[02:54] <Creationist> Tm_T: And extremely scientific.  But that's a topic for a different channel.  And you can ask me to change it, but I won't ;)
[02:55] <joshk1025so> do the compiz effects work on laptops?
[02:56] <joshk1025so> like older ones with not so much memory (128 shared for video)?
[02:56] <kyled185> dave__, I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[02:56] <Diskonnected> RogueJediZero: Okay; so if it is just a firewall not a router; do i put it directly on the modem and then put the router on the IPCop box?
[02:57] <dave__> kyled185, in the xorg file there are four colomns of resoloutions, does that format matter?
[02:57] <hydrogen> uhoh
[02:58] <hydrogen> here comes Mr Tm_T the thought-police cop!
[02:58] <mneptok> Creationist: IMO, the nick is a bit inflammatory given the scientific leanings of most geeks. it's like me walking into your church wearing an "Abortionist" t-shirt. i'm happy you have found something that gives you peace. there's no need to advertise it, IMO.
[02:58] <Tm_T> agreed
[02:58] <hydrogen> mm
[02:58] <hydrogen> he has had it for a while
[02:58] <hydrogen> a nick is a nick is a nick
[02:59] <dave__> kyled185, sorry it depends on the size of the window  on how the data is displayed
[02:59] <RogueJediZero> Diskonnected: I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do. Are you trying to make a router from your computer?
[02:59] <kyled185> dave__, ok
[02:59] <Creationist> mneptok: Personally, I would love to welcome you into my church with such a shirt :).  But my name isn't meant to be offensive in any way... it is a personal representation of my own beliefs and scientific research. :)
[02:59] <k5ubuntu> i need help finding on this. Ok im using a Dell latitude 131l it has a broadcam wireless card and its asking me where the firmware is, how can i download and save this firmware to my desktop or something
[03:00] <kyled185> !offtopic | everyone
[03:00] <ubotu> everyone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:00] <Tm_T> kyled185: thanks
[03:00] <Creationist> mneptok: Different views isn't always bad... it would be like someone coming in here with the name "ILoveGnome" ... big deal :P
[03:00] <kyled185> yep ;)
[03:00] <mneptok> Creationist: do you not see how it could be needlessly distracting?
[03:00] <hydrogen> it only became needlessly distracting when tm_t brought it up
[03:00] <k5ubuntu> !ubuotu
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <k5ubuntu> !ubotu
[03:00] <mneptok> Creationist: desktop managers are not, or should not, be as sacrosanct a choice as religious belief.
[03:00] <Creationist> mneptok: Not really... Because I've never had an issue with it until Tm_T
[03:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:00] <hydrogen> deal with the content, not with the bearer
[03:01] <kyled185> dave__, so did you make the changes?
[03:01] <Tm_T> hydrogen: true, and now I'm gone ->
[03:01] <hydrogen> don't judge a book by its cover :P
[03:01] <k5ubuntu> !how do you find programs
[03:01] <hydrogen> kmenu->add/remove programs
[03:01] <Creationist> eh well... this conversation doesn't belong in here anyway.
[03:01] <hydrogen> I've told you lhat like four times
[03:01] <lithium> is it really necessary to give that much attention to his nick?
[03:01] <hydrogen> that it doesn't!
[03:01] <hydrogen> back to gutsying
[03:01] <dave__> kyled185,im hesitant to mess with it, because it seems format in here is extreemly important
[03:01] <lithium> simply let him be
[03:02] <anton_> Hey, I want to save something to my sources.list but I think I need to be in root mode. Can I save something to the list through a terminal?
[03:03] <kyled185> dave__, whitespace isn't really that important as far as functionality is concerned, it helps with readability.
[03:04] <dave__> kyled185, i mean if I misallign any of these numbers it would mess it up, correct?
[03:04] <k5ubuntu> i need help finding this driver bcm43xx
[03:04] <kyled185> dave__, just highlight everything in the file and then copy and paste the modified file I sent you into it
[03:05] <k5ubuntu> i searches adept etc
[03:05] <k5ubuntu> searched
[03:05] <kyled185> dave__, er, highlight and delete everything in the file, then you can copy/paste the modified version
[03:06] <Diskonnected> RogueJediZero: No I am trying to make a firewall to service my entire network; the router i have is a Netgear router. I need a high quality firewall because people have been trying to hack into my network and hijack computers
[03:06] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[03:06] <lordofthepigs> What is a good way to make incremental backups of my important data?
[03:06] <lordofthepigs> rsync?
[03:06] <kyled185> lordofthepigs, git
[03:06] <dave__> kyled185,ok, thanks for your in depth help, i owe you one :-)
[03:06] <hydrogen> git would be horribly overengineering it
[03:06] <kyled185> dave__, yep, no problem
[03:07] <hydrogen> rsync would work
[03:07] <kyled185> hehe
[03:07] <hydrogen> there are some scripts that automate it
[03:07] <hydrogen> !backup
[03:07] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:07] <lordofthepigs> and is there nice GUI frontend for it?
[03:07] <hydrogen> see what mr. ubotu said :)
[03:07] <jjj543k3> Any one know of a good audio mixing app?
[03:07] <hydrogen> audacity
[03:08] <DevideZero> simply question : why NOT to use gtk application on kde ?
[03:08] <posingaspopular> !worksforme
[03:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[03:08] <Creationist> !sources.lst
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <posingaspopular> DevideZero: thats the answer i got when i asked that question
[03:08] <jjj543k3> this sounds stupid but audacity looks terible on anythig other than windows because it was built with wx which annoys me know of any kde native audio mixind apps
[03:09] <RogueJediZero> Diskonnected: In that case you need to put the box with IPcop between the modem and the router
[03:09] <posingaspopular> duno if that answers the questions completly
[03:09] <DevideZero> posingaspopular , what ?
[03:09] <DevideZero> did you understand my question ?
[03:10] <hydrogen> DevideZero: you can use gtk apps on kde
[03:10] <hydrogen> theres no reason not to
[03:10] <hydrogen> except that kde apps are a whole lot better
[03:10] <hydrogen> but
[03:10] <jt__> hola
[03:10] <kyled185> except slightly slower start up time for the first app you open
[03:10] <hydrogen> apps can run independant of the desktop your on
[03:10] <hydrogen> kyled185: thats really not a big deal
[03:10] <kyled185> hydrogen, agreed
[03:11] <DevideZero> why gnome and kde dont use both the same qt or gtk but the both you the samw it will sokve alot problems .. .
[03:11] <danny> i need help installig compiz
[03:11] <danny> !compiz help
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <danny> !compiz
[03:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:12] <danny> nevermind
[03:12] <hydrogen> DevideZero: gtk was formed a long time ago when qt's license didn't satisfy his holiness RMS.  Since then Qt's licensing has been remedied, but people still use gtk because they don't know any better
[03:12] <hydrogen> at least thats my take on it!
[03:13] <dave__> kyled185,it worked beautifully, thanks again, YOU DA MAN!!
[03:13] <kyled185> dave__, great, glad to help
[03:14] <lordofthepigs> hmm... it seems that sbackup is pretty much exactly what I want
[03:14] <kyled185> I'm gonna give kde 4 a try and I just installed the packages as stated in the URL in the topic.  I'm not sure what changing the environment variables will do to kde3, anyone here have experience with that?
[03:15] <redshadowhero> Wait, when is KDE4 set to be released?
[03:15] <dave__> december i think
[03:15] <kyled185> redshadowhero, end of december
[03:15] <Diskonnected> RogueJediZero: Ok thank you; i appreciate the assistance. Have a good one!:)
[03:15] <redshadowhero> too long a wait :P
[03:15] <hydrogen> kde4.0 is not going to be worth using in a lot of cases
[03:16] <kyled185> I'm not planning on using it for normal everyday stuff, I'd just like to poke around in it, report a bug or two
[03:16] <dave__> kyled185, let us know how it works out
[03:16] <hydrogen> wait for the beta4 packages
[03:16] <hydrogen> which should be out..
[03:17] <lencho> #Kubuntu-es
[03:18] <lencho> help
[03:18] <kyled185> I just installed the packages, so they should be the latest version
[03:19] <lencho> kubuntu en español?
[03:20] <hydrogen> !es | lencho
[03:20] <ubotu> lencho: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:21] <blendtux> !nl | blendtux
[03:21] <Kamerheimer> need help installing wireless drivers
[03:22] <Kamerheimer> i have hp dv6000z with broadcom wireless card
[03:22] <DevideZero> what kde is faster ( better preformance ) than xfce ?
[03:24] <jjj543k3> Whenever I try to preview audio in audacity I get this message saying that the audion device is busiy
[03:24] <kyled185> bah it didn't work
[03:25] <navets_> can somebody please help me get my sound working
[03:25] <navets_> it was working before but very poorly
[03:25] <navets_> i tried to install new alsa drivers
[03:26] <navets_> now i dont even get a mixer or any sound at all
[03:26] <jjj543k3> fixed my audacity problblem nm,..
[03:29] <k5ubuntu> hey i need a mac os x icons and a theme
[03:29] <k5ubuntu> and a dock
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Theres dozens of those things out.. all rather bad\. :)
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin-
[03:29] <ubotu> Found: kwin-style-crystal, kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator (and 4 others)
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Check out Baghira
[03:29] <kyled185> meh, now I see why kde 4 is still in beta
[03:30] <dave__> lol
[03:30] <k5ubuntu> whats a good mac dock for kubuntu
[03:31] <k5ubuntu> !dock
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <navets_> is there a way to reupgrade your kernel
[03:31] <k5ubuntu> !find dock
[03:31] <ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[03:31] <kyled185> last time I checked, kubuntu isn't OS X
[03:32] <k5ubuntu> it can be
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> it can look like it. :)
[03:32] <k5ubuntu> and since unix is like linux it is similar kind of
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> With a bit of work.. you can have a gui almost as annoying as OS-X
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> of course to get the Fancy Expose thing. you need to use Compiz
[03:33] <k5ubuntu> got it running
[03:33] <anton__> Hi, I'm trying to get Avant Window Navigator to work, but I can't do it. I am a total newbie at linux, so I'm wondering if there are any good guides to do this, from a newbies point of view?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> k5ubuntu:  then you need to be looking at the Emerald themes. Not the kwin themes.
[03:33] <dave__> they both have a unix core correct
[03:33] <dave__> ?
[03:34] <kyled185> dave__, Linux is a clone of Unix.  OS X is actually Unix
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Linux is not technicially 'unix' i belive. I forget the exact details. :)
[03:34] <dave__> kyled, i see
[03:34] <dave__> kyled185, i see
[03:35] <kyled185> alright I've got to go write some prolog..farewell everybody
[03:36] <dave__> kyled,185, have a good one
[03:37] <dave__> $#@% my typing sucks... :-)
[03:38] <dave__> sorry thats off topic..;-)
[03:38] <k5ubuntu> what is a good mac dock?
[03:38] <k5ubuntu> i cant seem to find one
[03:38] <dave__> <---dunno
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Thers that 'awm' advant window manager ? thing i hear about. but its not in the repos.
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Other then that. All the OS-X dock wannabes ive seen/tried all are rather lacking.. of course I find the original OS-X dock lacking
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> DreamLinux (a live cd) has Somthing that LOOKS very much like the OS-X dock. but not sure what its using
[03:40] <k5ubuntu> ill google it
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> good idea
[03:41] <anton__> What do I need to run .run-files?
[03:41] <k5ubuntu> KSmoothDock and KoolDock - seem to be more stable and fast also in Linux.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis>  Everex, a longtime personal computer vendor, has unveiled its latest PC featuring Ubuntu Linux-based open-source productivity software and Google-based Web 2.0 applications, for a mere $198.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Spiffy!
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Its running Enlightment as its desktop. because it rewuires minimal hardware..
[03:42] <k5ubuntu> Dr.Willis on adept they have kooldock to download!
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Gesh. I rember when Enliughtment was the MOST bloated Desktop/WM out. :)
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> k5ubuntu:  wow! :)
[03:43] <k5ubuntu> lol
[03:45] <dave__> is there a way to disable the join and leave notifications in konversation?
[03:46] <BlackAngel> oi
[03:47] <dave__> blackangel, annnddd?
[03:47] <BlackAngel> yes brasil
[03:48] <dave__> blackangle, sorry
[03:48] <dave__> blackangel, sorry
[03:49] <BlackAngel> :P
[03:49] <dave__> :-)
[03:50] <RogueJediZero> dave__: Settings -> Configure Konversation ... -> Behavior ->  Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events
[03:50] <dave__> roguejedizero,thanks
[03:51] <RogueJediZero> Don't mention it
[03:52] <the-erm> I can't believe I'm asking this ... in kcontrol there is a place to enable power saving.  I have it set to 45 minutes.  For both "root" and myself.  Yet every ~5 minutes - I haven't timed it but seems about right - the screen turns off.
[03:52] <the-erm> Any ideas ...
[03:53] <navets> does anyone know if there is a way to redo the gutsy upgrade
[03:53] <BlackAngel> the IRC in Brazil was very weak here after the excrement of msn
[03:54] <RogueJediZero> the-erm: K-Menu -> System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Saver. Is that it at the bottom?
[03:54] <the-erm> navets: I'm not sure.  You could load up adept_manager find everything that's "installed" and set it to "reinstall"
[03:55] <navets> the-erm: humm, is there a quick way to do that lol?
[03:55] <the-erm> I wish.
[03:55] <the-erm> I don't know.
[03:58] <Lam_> how do i globally stop my computer from beeping whenever i backspace or whatnot?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> shall we ask WHY this is needing to be done?
[03:59] <draik> Soooooooo......
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Lam_:  xset b 0 0 0    might do it for ya
[03:59] <the-erm> RogueJediZero: That's really weird ... it didn't have a screen saver.
[03:59] <draik> Just upgraded to Gutsy
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Lam_:  also Konsole has its own settings for the beep
[03:59] <dave__> has that false upgrade bug been fixed yet?
[03:59] <draik> Not bad. Not bad at all
[03:59] <jacques> xset b off
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> I tend to set the beep to be a real short click. :)
[03:59] <Lam_> Dr_Willis, jacques: i'll give that a try. thanks. this works with gtk too right? pidgin is doing the same thing and it's annoying -_-
[04:00] <the-erm> I could have sworn it was set ... odd, crazy weird.
[04:00] <the-erm> Maybe it's because it wasn't in the "saved session"
[04:02] <Lam_> Dr_Willis: the man page says that the settings will revert upon logout. is there a way to make it more permanent?
[04:03] <perrako> Hey -- I'm having trouble getting window borders in Kubuntu with compiz
[04:03] <perrako> I don't have any window decorators, as it weer
[04:04] <hydrogen> run kde-window-decorator
[04:05] <perrako> Could not find the specified command... should I install it with synaptic?
[04:06] <perrako> NVM, fixed it. Is there a way to get a compiz system tray icon?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Lam_:  thats what .bashrc and .bashprofile are good for.
[04:06] <Lam_> Dr_Willis: ah. didn't know that. thanks
[04:09] <kalorin`> hey dr_willis
[04:09] <kalorin`> how's thigns
[04:10] <kalorin`> anyone have any idea why I wouldn't be noticing any more updates for 7.04 lately?
[04:10] <kalorin`> just seems strange, when I was on 6.10, it popped up pretty quickly to upgrade to 7.10
[04:10] <biovore> its being obsoleted
[04:10] <kalorin`> 7.04 rather
[04:11] <kalorin`> I'm not seeing any updater alerts saying click now to do an upgrade
[04:11] <kalorin`> specifically I'd like to be playing with gimp 2.4 now that that's out
[04:11] <biovore> I have always had to manualy upgrade here..
[04:11] <biovore> between dists
[04:12] <kalorin`> doing an apt-get dist-upgrade gives me back that i'm up to date
[04:12] <kalorin`> it's strange
[04:12] <biovore> need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list from feisty to gusty
[04:12] <biovore> then dist-upgrade
[04:12] <biovore> and pray
[04:13] <kalorin`> yeah but it's interesting I didn't have to with the 6.10 to 7.04 upgrade
[04:13] <kalorin`> it just sort of popped up the caution sign one day and said click here to blow stuff up
[04:14] <kalorin`> and the full upgrade button isn't highlighted in adept
[04:14] <kalorin`> so it's like it has no idea it's obsolete
[04:14] <gil__> alguien sabe en español?
[04:14] <kalorin`> I hope it doesn't find out from someone else, it's feelings will be hurt nad it'll be mad at me :)
[04:14] <kalorin`> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:16] <navets> is there a way to downgrade or fix my sound with an intel hda sound card?
[04:20] <micha_> cze jest ktos z polski
[04:20] <perrako> So, I just installed kick-off, but it won't open with the windows key -- how do I fix that?
[04:21]  * Dr_Willis wonders what kick-off is
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> !info kick-off
[04:21] <ubotu> Package kick-off does not exist in gutsy
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> !find kick
[04:21] <ubotu> Found: kicker, kicker-applets, system-config-kickstart, kicker-contactsmenu, kicker-kblogger (and 1 others)
[04:22] <perrako> Kick-off is that really nice SUSE menu
[04:22] <perrako> Replaces the normal KDE menu... KDE 4 has a version of it as its default menu
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> Oh. that thing i always replace when i work on a suse box. :)
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> saw it on the kde4 live cd.. :) i found it lacking. But to each their own.
[04:27] <perrako> I love the search feature :)
[04:27] <perrako> just... always there, omnipresent
[04:27] <perrako> Heh, either way -- i think it's a problem with kde menu not responding to the key. how would I fix that?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Right its so anoying to use  :) ya have to just search..
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> of course I just use Katapult mainly these days.
[04:28] <perrako> heh, I just noticed it.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> night all...
[04:38] <mmmiiikkkeee> powermanager keeps switching from "AC mode" to "battery mode" every 2 seconds... any ideas of what i could search google for to fix this?
[04:40] <Kamerheimer> some wireless driver help would be appreciated is anyone available
[04:41] <Kamerheimer> idk how to extract the firmware from broadcom drivers using fwcutter
[04:42] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: you got the install to work?
[04:43] <awag> does anyone know the name of the search program that came with the feisty faun version of kubuntu?
[04:43] <navets> how do I run the snddevices script?
[04:43] <awag> that was in kmenu
[04:43] <Kamerheimer> yes i did i had to run it with noapic and nolapic
[04:44] <Kamerheimer> i dont know hwo to get hte wireless drivers working
[04:44] <posingaspopular> excellent. well i hate to break the news to you, but it sounds like your computer is going to be a pain to configure
[04:44] <posingaspopular> did you try the wireless documentation?
[04:44] <Kamerheimer> idk what that is
[04:44] <Kamerheimer> this is my first time using linux
[04:44] <posingaspopular> !wireless
[04:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:45] <Kamerheimer> dont really know the menus and all that well esp since i have no internet on it
[04:45] <Kamerheimer> oh yeah iw as there already
[04:45] <posingaspopular> oh okay
[04:45] <Kamerheimer> idk what broadcom i have
[04:46] <navets> how do I run the snddevices script? or where would the script be
[04:46] <posingaspopular> hmm well ive never setup wireless drivers, so i can't really help, buti can try
[04:47] <dsmith_> !beagle
[04:47] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[04:47] <posingaspopular> broadcom is a company that puts integrated circuits into computers, which is of course the hardware. so you need the drivers to make the hardware play nice with the software
[04:47] <dsmith_> more like narrow-minded com
[04:48] <posingaspopular> broadcom chipset just means that the broadcom hardware is the one that's actually connecting your computer to the internet
[04:48] <Kamerheimer> yep
[04:48] <posingaspopular> as far as i know anyway.
[04:48] <posingaspopular> so do you know what the broadcom chipset is on your computer, or are you stuck at that part?
[04:49] <Kamerheimer> yeah idk which one i got
[04:50] <Bearcat> hey folks, i  know this isn't a hardware specific channel, but i really need some trouble shooting help here.
[04:51] <Bearcat> is anyone familiar with gigabyte boards?
[04:52] <Bearcat> I just put together a system around a gigabyte ga-p35-dsr3 and a intel core 2 duo e6550. The first time i turne the system a few minutes ago the cpu fan spun  fine but i got no post tones and no video. After that i still get no post tones, no video and the cpu fan spins at first but then does not.  This is *Exactly* the same problem i am having with another machine with a gigabyte board in it. Any ideas?
[04:53] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: ah i dont *actually* know how to findout whatchipset you have
[04:53] <posingaspopular> but let's see if we can figure it out
[04:53] <Kamerheimer> i see this thing written by darkn00b
[04:53] <Kamerheimer> yo knwo him
[04:54] <Kamerheimer> he puts a link to a file but the link doesnt work anymore
[04:55] <posingaspopular> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:56] <posingaspopular> the first command should be what you need, and then the rest is ignorable i guess
[04:56] <posingaspopular> so yea, lshw
[04:56] <Kamerheimer> so now i gotta go back to linux and then come back here
[04:56] <Kamerheimer> son of a bleep
[04:56] <Kamerheimer> be back
[04:57] <posingaspopular> doh sorry
[04:57] <posingaspopular> lspci
[04:58] <anton__> Hi, I'm trying to get the avant window manager to work. I can open it and see the dock, but I can't open the preferences of the awn manager...what could be wrong?
[05:00] <Diskonnected> hey room; i have a question is there a package i can get for Kubuntu that will turn the computer its on into a Firewall like IPCop?
[05:00] <Diskonnected> I have a copy of ipcop downloaded but for some reason i cant get the cd to boot...
[05:01] <hydrogen> iptables..
[05:01] <hydrogen> !iptables
[05:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:03] <Diskonnected> well what i meant was I need a distro to turn a computer into a high functioning firewall for my entire network
[05:04] <Kamerheimer> !wireless
[05:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:04] <_dns_> try ipcop
[05:04] <LinuxReign> try Coyote as well
[05:04] <Diskonnected> thats what i tried; its 45mb cd and i cant get it to boot
[05:04] <Diskonnected> is Coyote its own distro?
[05:04] <LinuxReign> yes
[05:05] <hydrogen> Diskonnected: you can do that with any linux computer
[05:05] <bazhang> will setting the ip tables to exclude certain addresses effectively block them?
[05:05] <Diskonnected> whats the website?
[05:05] <LinuxReign> no cdrom or hdd needed, just a floppy drive
[05:05] <Kamerheimer> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[05:05] <LinuxReign> http://www.coyotelinux.com/
[05:05] <Diskonnected> Hydrogen: Thank you...
[05:05] <Kamerheimer> you see that man
[05:06] <LinuxReign> u can use a 486 with 16 mb of RAM with coyote
[05:06] <LinuxReign> no need to use expensive hardware
[05:06] <posingaspopular> yes i see
[05:06] <Diskonnected> yeah
[05:06] <Diskonnected> is it dependable?
[05:06] <LinuxReign> or keep ur main system up and running 24/7
[05:06] <Diskonnected> and strong
[05:07] <Diskonnected> i need something strong
[05:07] <bazhang> ie, using a filter to exclude certain ip addresses in ip tables?
[05:07] <Diskonnected> iv had multiple intrusion attempts on my network
[05:08] <Diskonnected> well i need it to be able to filter out attacks; basically i dont want actual people being able to connect to my computers; i need logs of everything that happens and i need it to be able to be updateable for blocking new types of attacks and know how to tell if its a trojan or a hacktool thats connecting
[05:08] <Diskonnected> thats the deal im working with
[05:08] <Diskonnected> i was told ipcop is the best but i cant get the cd to friggin boot
[05:08] <bazhang> so will editing the ip tables do that?
[05:08] <Diskonnected> possible
[05:09] <Diskonnected> but only if i know exactly what ip's/ip ranges i need to block or want to block
[05:09] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: i am 'googling'
[05:09] <Kamerheimer> ok thanks broseph
[05:09] <Kamerheimer> pm me ok
[05:09] <Kamerheimer> too much clutter here
[05:09] <bazhang> I had about 35 hits from a mainland chinese address in less than two minutes
[05:10] <LinuxReign> Coyote should do what u need, IPCop as well
[05:10] <Diskonnected> yeah...
[05:10] <Diskonnected> is it possible the ipcop iso image i got isnt bootable or what?
[05:10] <Diskonnected> and if so how do i do a network install
[05:10] <bazhang> and whois doesn't know who they are.
[05:11] <LinuxReign> for a network install the system board must have that capability
[05:11] <LinuxReign> depends on the mainboard
[05:12] <Diskonnected> k...
[05:13] <Diskonnected> this is some crap:\
[05:13] <Diskonnected> is Coyote a live cd?
[05:14] <LinuxReign> let me see if i have an image of that
[05:14] <Diskonnected> ok...
[05:14] <Diskonnected> idk but the comp wont boot from a cd but it will boot from a hard drive...its set to boot CD first
[05:14] <Diskonnected> doesnt make sense
[05:15] <LinuxReign> thats an old version but, woks
[05:15] <LinuxReign> works*
[05:15] <Diskonnected> what?
[05:15] <LinuxReign> accept the file
[05:15] <Diskonnected> ooo ok
[05:16] <Diskonnected> wait
[05:16] <Diskonnected> i dont c a pm?
[05:16] <Diskonnected> i am using XChat
[05:16] <LinuxReign> i see
[05:16] <LinuxReign> Im running Konversation
[05:17] <LinuxReign> not familiar with the Xchat thingy
[05:17] <LinuxReign> :P
[05:17] <Diskonnected> i dont use linux on this box
[05:17] <Diskonnected> lemme switch to Mirc
[05:17] <LinuxReign> k
[05:17] <Diskonnected> i will be back in a few
[05:17] <LinuxReign> k
[05:17] <jacques> anyone else have problems with audio and realplayer
[05:17] <LinuxReign> nope
 i am ok Kubuntu right?
[05:18] <Diskonnected> #Kubuntu?
[05:18] <LinuxReign> yes
[05:19] <Diskonnected> ok one sec
[05:19] <LinuxReign> i need a Coke brb
[05:19] <Diskonnected> ok
[05:19] <Diskonnected> im loggin in a d1sk0nn3ct3d
[05:22] <bazhang> will Kubuntu let me install a new system without swap?
[05:23] <bazhang> fresh install, but just no swap--possible?
[05:24] <Jucato> (only one way to find out...
[05:24] <Jucato> :P
[05:25] <LinuxReign> lol
[05:25] <bazhang> trying to install to a solid state drive, and don't want to wear it out
[05:25] <Jucato> I suppose it's possible... but haven't really tried
[05:25] <LinuxReign> hiya jucato, long time no see you on the forums
[05:26] <Jucato> which forums? :)
[05:26] <LinuxReign> kubuntu's
[05:26] <Jucato> MepisReigh is that you? (duh!)
[05:26] <LinuxReign> hahahaha
[05:26] <LinuxReign> yes indeed
[05:26] <LinuxReign> :P
[05:26] <Jucato> haha oh I've been there. posting here and there. but even w/o the posts I monitor it daily....
[05:26] <Jucato> 3x a day in fact
[05:26] <LinuxReign> oh
[05:27] <Jucato> RSS Feeds are a god-send! :)
[05:27] <LinuxReign> the its me the one that have been lost :P
[05:27] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> Linux Reign
[05:27] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> its Diskonnected i came on Mirc will u send whatever it is now
[05:27] <bazhang> Jucato: there are rss feeds for this channel?
[05:27] <LinuxReign> trying to send you the file, but it states that im not registered
[05:27] <Jucato> bazhang: no. we were talking about kubuntuforums.net
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> what do u mean?
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> on the server?
[05:28] <bazhang> oopsie, my bad
[05:28] <Jucato> !register | LinuxReign
[05:28] <ubotu> LinuxReign: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:28] <Jucato> quite simple to do :)
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> ghetto
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> do u use another chat protocol?
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> i have aim and yahoo/msn
[05:28] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> or u can email it?
[05:28] <LinuxReign> email
[05:28] <LinuxReign> would be faster
[05:29] <Jucato> it would be simple enough for you to actually register your nick and DCC the file :)
[05:29] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> ok<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:29] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> how big is the file?
[05:29] <LinuxReign> 2.6 megs
[05:29] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> thats fine
[05:29] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> ill check it in a few let me know
[05:29] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> btw what is it?
[05:29] <Jucato> D1sk0nn3ct3d, LinuxReign: might want to just PM each other :)
[05:29] <Quel> hi there. is there a boot parameter to boot with an ati radeon xpress 1250 driver? Kubuntu is not ablo to start the x-mode :(
[05:30] <LinuxReign> its Coyote
[05:30] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> i have coyote 3.0
[05:30] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> 3.00.7 iso
[05:30] <LinuxReign> oh i see
[05:31] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> and its 24 megs
[05:31] <LinuxReign> well its already sent :P
[05:31] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> i dont use floppies so floppy images wouldnt work
[05:31] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> ok no worries what is the one u sent?
[05:31] <LinuxReign> 2.24
[05:32] <Jucato> Quel: you don't need a boot parameter. you  just need to set the driver up properly... unfortunately, I don't have an ATI so I can't help much
[05:32] <LinuxReign> ok, its time to me to get some sleep
[05:32] <LinuxReign> c ya guys later
[05:33] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> hmmm ok
[05:33]  * Jucato was just about to recommend continuing your discussion in -offtopic ;P
[05:33] <D1sk0nn3ct3d> ok ttyl linux reign
[05:34] <smorg> anyone happen to know if there is an atitool-ish program for *nix
[05:35] <posingaspopular> ati too-ish program?
[05:35] <posingaspopular> to do what specifically
[05:35] <smorg> ati overclocking
[05:35] <Jucato> ah ATI Tool-ish :)
[05:35] <smorg> checks for artifacts
[05:36]  * posingaspopular backs away from the ATI talk before it corrupts his computer
[05:36] <Quel> hmm
[05:36] <smorg> since it works with drivers and directx I suspect it won't work with wine
[05:36] <smorg> lawl
[05:36] <smorg> compiz needs a little boost on this old ati 9700
[05:37] <Quel> Whats going on? I booted my kubunto 7.04 CD and after the booting screen is text and a second booting screen and than a black screen with a blinking "_" on the left-top edge :(
[05:37] <smorg> still not a bad card though... its stable with like 70 mhz o/c
[05:38] <smorg> Quel: maybe x just isn't starting?
[05:38] <smorg> can you get to a console?
[05:38] <smorg> or is it stuck
[05:38] <Quel> smorg: how to get a console?
[05:38] <Jucato> Quel: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:38] <smorg> ctrl+alt+F1-F7
[05:38] <Quel> I just have a blinking "_"
[05:38] <smorg> F1 through F7
[05:38] <Quel> yes it works
[05:38] <smorg> type Startx
[05:39] <smorg> er
[05:39] <smorg> startx
[05:39] <Quel> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[05:39] <Quel> Fatal Server Error: no screens found
[05:39] <smorg> have any backups of your xorg.conf?
[05:39] <bazhang> so if I install Kubuntu without swap, I'll need to create a 100MB /boot partition and the rest for / --am I missing anything?
[05:40] <smorg> check your xorg log in /var/x11
[05:40] <smorg> I think
[05:40] <Quel> smorg what do you mean?
[05:40] <posingaspopular> bazhang: /home
[05:40] <Jucato> bazhang: /boot partition is not necessary either. it can be in the same / partition
[05:40] <bazhang> Jucato: so just a / partition will do?
[05:41] <Jucato> SSD's wear out more easily than regular HD's?
[05:41]  * Jucato never heard that before...
[05:41] <Jucato> btw how much RAM do you have?
[05:41] <Vuen> hi
[05:41] <bazhang> posingaspopular: this is on a solid state drive--only4GB, so want to keep size to a minimum
[05:41]  * posingaspopular actually heads off to bed before he falls asleep on the keys. not ideal #kubuntu conditions
[05:41] <Vuen> i just selected a folder in Dolphin and click "Compressed Here"
[05:41] <smorg> Quel: oh this is just the livecd?
[05:41] <posingaspopular> ah i didn't know that
[05:41] <Quel> yes
[05:41] <bazhang> Jucato: one Gigabyte
[05:41] <Vuen> where the heck did it put the archive??
[05:41] <smorg> :-/
[05:42] <Jucato> bazhang: you probably won't be using the swap partition even if you had one :)
[05:42] <Quel> Ati Radeon XPress 1250.. i think its my videocard
[05:42] <smorg> do you have enough ram to run the livecd?
[05:42] <bazhang> Jucato: thanks! will give it a shot.
[05:42] <Jucato> Vuen: go one directory up
[05:42] <smorg> requires 256 mb afaik
[05:42] <bazhang> smorg: yes
[05:42] <smorg> hm
[05:42] <Quel> i have 2GB RAM
[05:43]  * Jucato is now confused who's talking to who...
[05:43] <Vuen> Jucato: oh. it tarred the whole folder. i assumed it would only tar what i selected.
[05:43] <smorg> Quel: I guess i'm not so sure about configuring video drivers from command line... if thats even why its hanging for you. It could be anything.
[05:43] <Vuen> good thing i didn't click that while selecting something in home...
[05:43] <Jucato> Vuen: no you have to right-click on the particular folder
[05:44] <Jucato> Vuen: or go into the folder you want compressed, then select Compress Here
[05:44] <Jucato> and yes, D3lphin is a bit annoying when it comes to that :)
[05:44] <Quel> i had the same error while booting kanotix... kano said i had to use "screen=auto fglrx" in the bootmanager to boot because it is an ati radeon video-card, after that it worked
[05:45] <Quel> i think kubunto dont know this parameter
[05:45] <Jucato> I don't think the Live CD has one
[05:45] <Jucato> you can always check. at the startup screen, you can press F1. there might be help options
[05:46] <Quel> can i install kubunto to my /dev/sda1 in console?
[05:46] <drarem> since the 7.10 release, there haven't been any system updates to speak of, right?
[05:47] <Jucato> Quel: not if you're using the Live CD
[05:47] <Jucato> drarem: there were
[05:47] <Jucato> last week I think
[05:48] <Jucato> specifically there was an update to kdelibs that fixed the Kopete crashing problem
[05:48] <Quel> Jucato how can in install kubuntu without a cd? Do i need windows for installing?
[05:48] <drarem> i commented out my cd-universe..
[05:48] <Jucato> Quel: there's an alternate installation CD that can install without a GUI
[05:48] <Quel> ah okay, so i need the xserver to install
[05:49] <Jucato> Quel: only *IF* you are using the Desktop CD. the Alternate Install CD doesn't need xserver
[05:49] <Jucato> drarem: if you have gutsy-updates repositories enabled, you should have gotten them
[05:49] <drarem> ok
[05:50]  * Jucato hands genii some beer
[05:50] <Jucato> (before going AFK)
[05:50] <genii> Heh :)
[05:50]  * genii sips
[05:50] <Quel> i got a kubuntu cd from a free sorfware-day.. there was a kubuntu-office and they gave me the cd
[05:51] <genii> heh. Forgot i left the work computer on LOL
[05:51] <Quel> oh i have to go to school
[05:51] <Jucato> genii: ssh and shut it down :)
[05:51] <Quel> be right back :)
[05:51] <Quel> goodbye
[05:51]  * Jucato really goes afk
[05:54] <tehk> Anyone know why lucida sans typewriter is not selectable for my monospace font?(its installed and an option everywhere else)
[05:54] <genii> Jucato: That ones behind a router without 22 forwarded :(
[06:31] <monsterb> !java
[06:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:53] <anton__> Hello there, Can I make windows transparent? Not just the bars...
[06:58] <bazhang> anton__: sure!
[07:03] <anton__> bazhang: How?
[07:04] <utnubuk> what prog is recomended for creating .iso's?
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> utnubuk: dd
[07:05] <utnubuk> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[07:06] <utnubuk> !dd
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <wilson> mkisofs makes iso
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> utnubuk: try using k3b
[07:06] <utnubuk> ive heard of dd, i looked at man pages but didnt look easy :)
[07:08] <nalioth> k3b is probably the easiest way
[07:08] <utnubuk> nalioth: yeah but i wanna be harcore about it
[07:08] <utnubuk> heh
[07:09] <wilson> mkisofs -o filename.iso  file_or_directory
[07:10] <utnubuk> ty
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/whatever.iso
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know how well that would actually work
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> but meh
[07:10] <bazhang> anton__: well, you do need compiz-fusion and all the plugins installed (both main and extra), as well as the settings manager
[07:10] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: might want to drop the / before whatever and it will :)
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: just using that as a way to give a directory to store it
[07:11] <anton__> bazhang: I think I have compiz-fusion installed. Could you send me a link to a guide or something?
[07:12] <nalioth> utnubuk: then dd is probably as hardcore as you're gonna find
[07:12] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: yes... but that will try to write it in the / directory, to which you don't have write access to :)
[07:12] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: this is true
[07:13] <bazhang> anton__: not sure about a guide, though I can tell you how to do it--pretty simple really
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/directory/you/want/to/use/and/have/write/access/to/whatever.iso
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> there :D
[07:13] <Jucato> bah! just simply dd if=/dev/cdrom of=whatever.iso :P
[07:14] <Jucato> it will create it in the current directory, and he can just move it himself later :P
[07:14] <anton__> bazhang: Sounds great!
[07:14] <Jucato> !compiz | anton__
[07:14] <ubotu> anton__: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> what if you happen to be in a directory you don't have write access to?
[07:14] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: simple answer: wth are you doing in there? :P
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: you know i'm just making your life difficult right now :)
[07:14] <OliverKrueger> Hello World
[07:14] <Jucato> I can make yours more difficult :P
[07:15] <Jucato> and all I need... is a little crown :D
[07:15]  * Jucato waves to nalioth
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> aww, that's not very nice!
[07:15] <Jucato> :D
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> besides, it's bedtime :)
[07:15] <nalioth> hi Jucato
[07:16] <anton__> bazhang: I have compis installed.
[07:17] <bazhang> anton__: and under settings in the kmenu do you have 'Advanced Desktop Effects Settings'?
[07:18] <utnubuk> whats all that talk about bytes and blocks in the man pages for dd?
[07:18] <bazhang> you need to specify the block size ie 1024
[07:18] <anton__> bazhang: Yes, I have.
[07:18] <bazhang> anton__: I don't have it on right now, so hold on a minute
[07:19] <anton__> bazhang: Np. :)
[07:19] <guillermo> how stable is gusty now?
[07:19] <Jucato> utnubuk: for simple ISO creation, you don't need most of the other options there
[07:19] <utnubuk> so dd if=whatever of=whatever will just copy verbatim
[07:20] <utnubuk> ok cool thanks
[07:22] <eagles0513875> any1 know fi there are any bugs with soundkonverter and the w64codecs
[07:22] <eagles0513875> !w64codecs
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w64codecs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[07:22] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:25] <bazhang> anton__: there are a couple of ways to do this (likely more); one is with the scale effect, that will make all the other windows become transparent--except the one you are on.
[07:26] <bazhang> anton__: by mousing over the various windows, the new one becomes opaque, and the others transparent
[07:26] <anton__> bazhang: Ok.
[07:27] <bazhang> anton__: try it--and you might want to make the top corner (or whatever corner) the trigger --located under bindings--double click the area under screen corner and then choose the one you want
[07:28] <anton__> bazhang: Sorry, can you repeat that in a simpler version?
[07:28] <bazhang> anton__: you need to adjust the opacity in the main window as well--I set mine to 35, which is quite transparent--though you may want more :}
[07:28] <OliverKrueger> Is the kubuntu-feisty repository (german -de- mirror) down?
[07:28] <bazhang> anton__: PM?
[07:28] <anton__> I can't msg you.
[07:29] <bazhang> how about joining #kubuntu-offtopic?
[07:29] <anton__> Not registered.
[07:29] <anton__> Sure, see you there :)
[07:29] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  have a question abt Kontact.  how do i change the font color of the names?  currently i cannot see any names after doing an import.  also, i am running it out of gnome.  i prefer kubuntu by far, but alas, my wireless card works on ubuntu, and not through kde...
[07:30] <zgmf-x20a> any thoughts?
[07:33] <eagles0513875> zgmf-x20a: what kinda card do u have
[07:33] <eagles0513875> !restricted
[07:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:34] <zgmf-x20a> eagles0513875: trust me dude, ive been thur it from so many angles.... ubuntu just works, getting it to work thru kubuntu was a nightmare...  its the intel wireless 4695 agn, integrated in my laptop
[07:35] <eagles0513875> zgmf-x20a: ouch. mine used to be a nightmare in any distro mines a broadcom 4306
[07:35] <eagles0513875> where do i get the w32codecs from for some reason i cant find them even though i have all repos enabled
[07:36] <zgmf-x20a> lol.  dude, dont worry about media stuff.... download and install vlc media player
[07:36] <OliverKrueger> How do I change my repository mirror without editing apt/sources.list manually? Is there a tool to choose a mirror from a given list?
[07:37] <zgmf-x20a> just type vlc in adept
[07:37] <zgmf-x20a> downlaod and install the main package and you will never have to worry abt codecs ever again
[07:37] <zgmf-x20a> man,,,, i miss adept.... synaptic leaves something to be desired
[07:38] <Jucato> wow!
[07:38] <Jucato> first person I've heard say that :)
[07:38] <Jucato> there might be hope for adept after all :)
[07:38] <zgmf-x20a> lol, its true, adept is simple, clean, and descriptive
[07:38] <zgmf-x20a> synaptic is all over the place
[07:38] <Jucato> which adept? :)
[07:39] <zgmf-x20a> adept that comes with 7.10 is fine
[07:39] <zgmf-x20a> 6.10 was fine too
[07:39] <zgmf-x20a> its simple
[07:39] <zgmf-x20a> that is key
[07:39] <Jucato> There are 5 brothers in the Adept family now...
[07:40] <zgmf-x20a> hey eagles0513875 did you get vlc yet!?
[07:40] <Jucato> Adept Notifier (system tray notifier), Adept Updater (update tool), Adept Installer (Add/Remove Programs), Adept Manager (the Big Adept) and Adept Batch (almost never seen/used)
[07:40] <zgmf-x20a> well, i dunno, my opinion is that it is much cleanier, simpler to use
[07:40] <zgmf-x20a> oooo, adept updater
[07:40] <Jucato> (the simplest would be Adept Notifier since it just displays and icon and sits there :D
[07:40] <zgmf-x20a> well and installer
[07:41] <Zombocom> how do you edit xorg.conf from the command prompt?
[07:41] <Jucato> Zombocom: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <zgmf-x20a> lol, yah that is good, but i mean to use for looking for packages, and seeing what they are for, and as a tool to manage packages its much better
[07:41] <Jucato> Ctrl+O to save (writeOver) and Ctrl+X to exit
[07:41] <Jucato> zgmf-x20a: ah you haven't encountered a big issue I have with Adept Installer
[07:42] <zgmf-x20a> i only used to encounter issues back in 5.10
[07:42] <zgmf-x20a> from then on, its been a beautiful tool
[07:43] <Jucato> try search for GCC in there :)
[07:43] <Jucato> basically, Adept Installer (Add/Remove Programs) only shows a limited number of packages, compared to the actual number of packages available through the repositories...
[07:43] <Jucato> it sort of has it's own, smaller database...
[07:44] <zgmf-x20a> this is my second go on ubuntu....  since the 5.10 days...  the gui is quite nice, very mac esque...  with the closing and opening thing, but honestly, if kubuntu had that and the wireless networking ubuntu has, kubuntu would be hype
[07:44] <zgmf-x20a> ooooo yah i knoe there is that issue
[07:44] <Jucato> which annoys me.. because, if you can't find a package in Installer that you know exists, you have to close it and launch Manager instead
[07:44] <zgmf-x20a> yahhhhhhhh i had that with my nvidia card back in 6.10
[07:44] <zgmf-x20a> that was hell
[07:45]  * Jucato wants a unified, clean, simple but powerful UI for Adept  Installer + Manager...
[07:45] <zgmf-x20a> lol it is pretty clean, just the useful ness with thos types of packages yah is a pain
[07:46] <Jucato> it's clean, but less useful, and a ripoff from Ubuntu's Add/Remove... maybe that's the goal anyway...
[07:47] <zgmf-x20a> SWEET,,,, kontact issue in gnome now solved... just had to re import after restart.... very odd, but with gnme it seems you have to restart after every kde app install to get it to work proper....
[07:47] <Jucato> oh well....
[07:47] <zgmf-x20a> lol well its a derivative of ubuntu right, so that makes sense
[07:47] <Jucato> it's not a deriv... it's a clone :P
[07:48] <zgmf-x20a> iiiiiiiiii dunno man.... they are pretty different in alot of areas..... well, front end wise
[07:48] <Jucato> hehe
[07:50] <zgmf-x20a> the core though yah, is clone, thats why i say derivative... like some stuff in ubuntu sucks so much.  the way to burn files and all, horrible, k3b, amazing, and konqueror, same thing, amazing, easy, this nautilus is..... not fun... lol
[07:50] <Jucato> oh I was talking only about the Add Remove Programs :)
[07:50] <Jucato> that one's a real clone, interface-wise :)
[07:50] <zgmf-x20a> hahahahaha oh... damn that seems to be your focus... lol
[07:51] <Jucato> yeah. it's an itch I want to scratch but can't :)
[07:51]  * Philip5-aWay is Away, Reason: ( at work ) | Since: ( Friday, November 2, 2007. 08:41:00 ) Xlack v2.1
[07:52] <Jucato> !away > Philip5-aWay
[07:53] <zgmf-x20a> hahaha... im sure it will be equvalent at some point, i find kubuntu is always just a step behind ubuntu....  like as soon as 8.10 comes out, ill be back on kubuntu because it whould be pretty up to speed by then
[07:53]  * Jucato sighs...
[07:53] <zgmf-x20a> course thats in like years
[07:53] <Jucato> I only know too well :(
[07:53] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[07:53] <zgmf-x20a> aight now that i got the kontact back up and running im gunna go mess around with it for awhile
[07:53] <zgmf-x20a> catch you later man
[07:54] <Jucato> well, Kubuntu 8.04 would have caught up to Ubuntu 7.10 by then. And Kubuntu 8.10 will have KDE 4.x installed by default
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> hmm will be interesting to see what the upgrade path will be from the last lts version
[08:00] <Jucato> yes very interesting indeed
[08:03] <mm_202> How can I turn off window transparencies from the console?
[08:04] <mm_202> I enabled them and it totally jacked up my screen, so Im running failsafe now.
[08:08] <eagles0513875> zgmf-x20a: no i have vlc
[08:08] <bazhang> possible to use avant window manager with compiz-fusion?
[08:09] <eagles0513875> zgmf-x20a: the problem im having with all the codecs installed for some reason soundkonverter wont allow me to convert from wma to any other format
[08:09] <eagles0513875> !compiz
[08:09] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:09] <bazhang> I know all about compiz-fusion, just wanted to know if they could be run together.
[08:10] <lounge-about> i have a 60 gig hdd. its ext3 formatted with kubuntu. currently only about half of it is being used, is there any way i can format, say just a 10gig partition to ntfs?
[08:10] <Jucato> you'll have to ask the compiz-fusion guys about that :/
[08:10] <bazhang> thanks Jucato!
[08:11] <Jucato> lounge-about: you can resize the partition to create a 10gb ntfs partition... (don't ask me for details.. I suck at doing that)
[08:11] <Jucato> !partition
[08:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:11] <Jucato> you can use gparted
[08:11] <lounge-about> ive tried using gparted
[08:12] <lounge-about> but it wont let me do anything
[08:12] <Jucato> you will probably have to do it from a live cd. since you can't do any actions if the partition you want to modify is mounted
[08:12] <eagles0513875> zgmf-x20a: i dunno what else to do except file a bug
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> lounge-about, you should be able to use gparted to shrink the original partition, then create a new ntfs partition & format it
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper> I have done similar things but with ext3
[08:13] <OliverKrueger> I want to upgrade from feisty to gutsy with adept. Doing so adept downloads an update-manager with a hardcoded repository uri (which is not avail at the moment). How do I change adepts behaviour?
[08:13] <eagles0513875> OliverKrueger: look at the upgrade instructions at the top
[08:14] <OliverKrueger> eagles0513875: I did.
[08:14] <lounge-about> OliverKrueger: adept dist-upgrade
[08:14] <lounge-about> or adept install dist-upgrade
[08:15] <Jucato> lounge-about: er.... no
[08:15] <Jucato> not valid commands.
[08:15] <lounge-about> or is it apt
[08:15] <lounge-about> apt-get
[08:15] <Jucato> apt-get
[08:15] <OliverKrueger> eagles0513875: there is no adept on the cli. :-(
[08:15] <lounge-about> i go back and forth from KDE and GNOME a lot
[08:16] <OliverKrueger> sorry. I meant lounge-about. ;)
[08:16] <Jucato> but that's not the recommended method to upgrade to Gutsy
[08:16] <lounge-about> its how i had to do it...in a terminal boot on top of that
[08:17] <eagles0513875> OliverKrueger: its apt instead
[08:17] <Jucato> OliverKrueger: at what part of the instructions have you stopped? what errors are you getting?
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> I abandoned (k)ubuntu because the upgrade mechanism sucked, good to see nothing has changed...
[08:17] <Jucato> eagles0513875: if you're willing to give him exact instructions on what packages should be installed to ensure a complete upgrade, which repositories to disable, etc.
[08:17] <OliverKrueger> The problem is: I can perfectly change the repository uri in adept. Everything works fine until the external update-manager is launched.
[08:17] <eagles0513875> TheGateKeeper: i upgraded successfully
[08:18] <eagles0513875> Jucato: all he has to do make sure feisty has all the upgraded pkgs
[08:18] <lounge-about> are you getting package errors?
[08:18] <eagles0513875> Jucato: then add the repos in adept the he can do a fully upgrade
[08:18] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: it's improving... the upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy has not been very problematic
[08:18] <TheGateKeeper> eagles0513875, hmm works for me doesn't cut it, has to work for EVERYONE
[08:18] <OliverKrueger>  /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log says: IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty....
[08:18] <eagles0513875> Jucato: or he could use source o matic to change the source list and use the cli to do a complete dist upgrade
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, tell that to OliverKrueger
[08:19] <OliverKrueger> afaik, de.archive.ubuntu.com is down/corrupt/whatever at the moment.
[08:19] <intelikey> i went all through the wiki on midi   and according to that it should be working   there is no "if" contengent for when it doesn't "just work"    so anyone have any insight at all on this ?      playmidi: No playback device found.
[08:19] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)!
[08:19] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: most of the problems that have happened are 1) 3rd party repositories blocking the upgrade or 2) server traffic failing to fetch updates
[08:20] <OliverKrueger> 2) might be my problem. :)
[08:20] <OliverKrueger> How fresh is gutsy? Are the ubuntu.com servers still under heavy load?
[08:21] <Jucato> hi intelikey!
[08:21] <intelikey> shalom Jucato
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> I got fed up with this nonsense, so I only use distros with rolling updates
[08:21] <Jucato> OliverKrueger: not taht new. not sure why the german servers would have a problem
[08:21] <lounge-about> server load is going down
[08:22] <OliverKrueger> I had probs doing a normal dist-upgrade (on feisty), thats why I chose a different mirror.
[08:22] <OliverKrueger> But the new mirror is not taken for update_manager.
[08:22] <Jucato> eagles0513875: not so simple. he has to 1) make sure all 3rd party repos are disabled and 2) make sure that some basic metapackages are installed, and some other checks. these are done automatically by the upgrade tool. but if you've had experience with some other method, please go ahead
[08:22] <lounge-about> hm,mm
[08:23] <Jucato> OliverKrueger: any change you do w/ mirrors affects Adept and APT
[08:23] <OliverKrueger> yes
[08:23] <OliverKrueger> all.
[08:23] <OliverKrueger> sources.list shows the new mirror entries.
[08:25] <sharkp> 'morning
[08:25] <waylandbill> OliverKrueger: the change goes into effect after an update btw.
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, I still have dapper, but don't really use it, when the next lts version I will upgrade it just to see what happens, my bet is something will break along the way, but we shall have to wait an d see
[08:26]  * intelikey sujests set the sources list and run...    for Q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3 ` ;do sudo apt-get remove -y $Q ;done ;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:26] <sharkp> I've a problem with dolphin
[08:26] <sharkp> every time I close it, it appears a pop-up saying:
[08:26] <OliverKrueger> waylandbill: I did update with adept (and to be sure with apt-get again). :)
[08:28] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: sometimes, expectations are self-fulfilling prophecies. but I do imagine there will be some bumps. there always are
[08:28] <sharkp> unable to save bookmarks on /home/sharkp/.kde/apps/d3lphin/boockmarks.xml. The error is: permission denied."
[08:28] <sharkp> how can I solve this problem
[08:28] <sharkp> =
[08:28] <sharkp> ?
[08:28] <intelikey> sharkp own it
[08:29] <intelikey> sharkp sudo chown `whoami` /home/sharkp/.kde/apps/d3lphin/boockmarks.xml
[08:29] <Jucato> known bug :)
[08:29] <intelikey> Jucato oh is it ?   not actually a permissions issue ?
[08:29] <Jucato> it is both :)
[08:29] <llutz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136458
[08:30] <Jucato> a permission issue caused by a known bug :)
[08:30] <llutz> ^^ dolphn
[08:30] <sharkp> intelikey, "bash:sharkp:command not found"
[08:30] <sharkp> sure about your command?
[08:30] <Jucato> actually it's a kdesudo bug that affects not only dolphin...
[08:30] <Jucato> sharkp: yes. but you didn't enter it properly :)
[08:30] <Jucato> why did you include your name in it :D
[08:30] <intelikey> sharkp i was kinda hopping that you knew that your name was not part of the command....
[08:31] <sharkp> yeah,yeah, I know...
[08:31] <ardchoille> sharkp: You're path is wrong
[08:31] <intelikey> ardchoille lol
[08:31] <sharkp> ardchoille, yeah, not boockmarks
[08:31] <sharkp> I've corrected it
[08:31] <ardchoille> .kde/apps?
[08:31] <sharkp> ardchoille, oh, .kde/share/apps
[08:32] <ardchoille> yeah
[08:32] <sharkp> I'll correctr
[08:32] <sharkp> is this the command?-->sudo chown `sharkp` /home/sharkp/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[08:32] <intelikey> tab key   man   tab key
[08:32] <Jucato> sharkp: nope...
[08:32] <intelikey> no
[08:32] <sharkp> no?mmm...
[08:32] <intelikey> no
[08:32] <sharkp> and why?
[08:33] <Jucato> sudo chown `whoami` /home/sharkp/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[08:33] <intelikey> `sharkp` <<< can't execute  sharkp
[08:33] <Jucato> because we're not sure whether your IRC nick is also your username :)
[08:33] <sharkp> and so? I've put my name
[08:33] <Jucato> and `` does something elese
[08:33] <sharkp> it's the same
[08:33] <Jucato> no it's not
[08:33] <sharkp> Jucato,  " "?
[08:33] <Jucato> `foo` will try to run foo as a command
[08:33] <Jucato> to `sharkp` will try to run sharkp... which isn't a command or a program
[08:34] <intelikey> sharkp test this.     echo "whoami"      and also     echo `whoami`
[08:34] <Jucato> whoami is a command
[08:34] <sharkp> ok, "" is correct
[08:34] <Jucato> ...
[08:34] <sharkp> Jucato, ah!ok! I thought it was a sample
[08:34] <sharkp> ok
[08:34] <sharkp> I've put "sharkp"
[08:35] <sharkp> ok, solved
[08:35] <sharkp> thanx guys
[08:35] <Jucato> we're sure about the commands we give. but we  do expect that you'll enter them as they are... unless you really know what you're doing. :D
[08:35] <intelikey> sharkp also  test this one       echo "$(whoami)"
[08:36] <Jucato> bash is confusing when it comes to "", '', and ``...
[08:36] <Jucato> oh well
[08:36] <darth_chatri> can i use the battery monitor applet outside kicker?
[08:37] <darth_chatri> basically i want to use that outside kde
[08:39] <intelikey> echo `Q() { sleep 20 ;kill -9 $PPID ; } ;until false ;do Q & ;done`        <<<< that might explain it better
[08:40] <emilsedgh> darth_chatri: there should be karamba for battery, look at kde-look.org and install superkaramba
[08:40] <Blissex> darth_chatri: that is not a good idea because it stupidly keeps writing the battery status to a file, wasting a log of power.
[08:41] <Blissex> darth_chatri: using the KDE default battery monitor applet is a bad idea in KDE too as a result.
[08:41] <Jucato> O.o
[08:43] <emilsedgh> how are you Jucato? you feeling better from last week?
[08:43] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yep :)
[08:44] <emilsedgh> Jucato: im happy to hear that
[08:44] <Jucato> thanks for asking :)
[08:47] <Blissex> darth_chatri: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/blog/0704apr.html#070424 has the details and a not so good workaround.
[08:48] <pete_> ;
[08:49] <eagles0513875> why do i need a wma encoder when all i wanna do is encode my music in another format besides wma
[08:54] <pete_> i'm trying to ssh my iphone but it says 'no route to host' (im at a hotel right now) should I wait to get to my home network then try?
[08:55] <pete_> i can see the iphone in the network thing, but when i try to ping it i get no route message
[08:56] <darth_chatri> Blissex: i dont have that installed. but the applet is there. maybe the name is something else
[08:56] <Ohman> Hey, I have a problem. I can't startx. "No screens found"...Tried reinstalling nvidia-glx...
[08:57] <darth_chatri> the config file is power-managerrc, what is the name of the executable?
[08:59] <Jucato> guidance-power-manager ?
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> Ohman: you could try using the nv drivers to get things going to start with
[09:02] <intelikey> anyone have a clue-by-four why i always get this from apt   Install these packages without verification [y/N]?    ???
[09:04] <robinsw> Hi all... any ideas why my external USB hard drive shows under 'Storage Media' but when I try to access it, it gives me error 'hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000'?
[09:06] <intelikey> robinsw that's a pretty common problem.   have you checked the forums to see what others are doing to fix it ?
[09:06] <zsozsi> sziasztok  valaki  használja  a  kubuntu  studiot?
[09:07] <robinsw> Not yet, intelikey.  Compiz-fusion won't work. I've tried installing nv-xconfig and all, but it ends with me having to edit xorg.conf through nano and change driver to "nv" instead of nvidia.
[09:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !nvidia
[09:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:28] <anton__> What can I do?
[09:28] <anton__> yes, I know how...
[09:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !nvidia | anton__
[09:28] <ubotu> anton__: please see above
[09:28] <anton__> but it won't function properly
[09:28] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i have a ati card
[09:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but no problems here
[09:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i have an idea
[09:29] <anton__> Hm?
[09:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> do you have the nvidia restricted drivers enabled?
[09:30] <anton__> I don't know. How do I check?
[09:30] <lg188> hello back
[09:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anton__: press K and go to system settings and go to advanced tab
[09:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ant
[09:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anton__: then press restricted drivers
[09:31] <anton__> I see.
[09:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anton__: then press administration mode
[09:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anton__: then enable it
[09:31] <lg188> hello evryone
[09:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !hi | lg188
[09:32] <anton__> Now it's enabled
[09:32] <ubotu> lg188: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> anton__: now reboot and see if it worked
[09:32] <anton__> okok!
[09:32] <anton__> brb
[09:34]  * lg188 is tired of not sleeping enough
[09:34] <anton__> Ok, back.
[09:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it work?
[09:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !compiz | anton__
[09:35] <ubotu> anton__: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:35] <anton__> well, x started :P
[09:35] <anton__> yes I know...seen that message...been in that chat---
[09:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok just trying to help
[09:36] <anton__> yes, thanks man :)
[09:36] <anton__> it's just...when I install nv-xconfig, it doesnt work...
[09:36] <anton__> I'll try again, now that I have enabled restricted
[09:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yeah
[09:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> restricted is the driver
[09:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> xconfig is the tweaker
[09:37] <anton__> E: Couldn't find package nv-xconfig
[09:37] <anton__> *sigh*
[09:37] <anton__> nv-xconfig
[09:37] <anton__> oops*
[09:37] <lg188> is 'sux' a command for root rights but how to end it 'sux' again ?
[09:38] <llutz> ctrl-d
[09:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> llutz: whats ctrl-d do?
[09:40] <llutz> end a shell
[09:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> oh
[09:43] <Agent_bob> ?    end a shell ?

[09:45] <llutz> Agent_bob: "exits from shell" (shell-depending)
[09:45] <lg188> is 'sux' a command for root rights but how to end it 'sux' again ?
[09:45] <llutz> lg188: ctrl-d
[09:45] <lg188> ?
[09:46] <llutz> lg188: press ctrl-d or type exit
[09:46] <lg188> ahh
[09:46] <lg188> just closing the terminal kk ty^^
[09:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !compiz
[09:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:52] <anton__> How to change title bar color in compiz-fusion?
[09:56] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> #compiz-fusion
[09:56] <E_mE> how do i get my Xgl to work properly under Kubuntu
[09:56] <E_mE> it doesn't work unless i use sudo startx
[09:58] <Agent_bob> E_mE that sounds like you have an xorg.conf in root's home
[09:58] <Agent_bob> or possably in your own.
[09:58] <E_mE> no i have xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[09:58] <Agent_bob> E_mE startx will read the local config file rather than the global one.
[10:00] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone, i'm having problems with pidgin. it doesn't seem to want to stay open for more than 30 seconds or so. this problem seems to come and go. anyone have any suggestions?
[10:00] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: have u tried kopete
[10:00] <E_mE> Agent_bob: i dont have it my local anyhow...  i tried replacing X with Xgl in the xinit file
[10:00] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me why i need to have a wma encoder to decode wma audio and reencode it into something else
[10:01] <E_mE> because i can't get it to work any other way
[10:01] <E_mE> Agent_bob: keep getting an error about moving logs in /var/log/
[10:01] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: At one point it time a while back. I was more hoping for a quick fix to the problem but if it does persist I'll consider switching to another client
[10:01] <E_mE> Agent_bob: but when im using standard X it goes in fine
[10:01] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: u on gutsy
[10:02] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: and is it 32bit or 64bit version
[10:02] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: yes
[10:02] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: 32 bit
[10:02] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: let me download it and see if i get the same problem as u do
[10:02] <eagles0513875> if so then i would recommend filing a bugreport and ill back up ur report for the 64bit version as well
[10:03] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: give me a min
[10:03] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: Thanks. the problem seems kind of random so I wouldn't be surprised if you're not able to reproduce the problem.
[10:06] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: if i cant then only thing i could say is use kopete and file a bug report
[10:06] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: jw u have upgraded all pkgs that need upgrading
[10:06] <Uffe555> Hey, I have some troubles with compiz-fusion...my titlebars disappeared..
[10:07] <Uffe555> what to do?
[10:07] <eagles0513875> !compiz
[10:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:07] <Arandel[at-work]> guys how do I install .deb package from bash?
[10:07] <eagles0513875> Uffe555: try the compiz channel
[10:07] <Uffe555> I'm there...
[10:07] <llutz> Arandel[at-work]: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:07] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: what protocol r u having
[10:08] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: trouble wiht
[10:08] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: everything's upgraded. well the whole program was closing. after 4 or 5 tries it seems to be staying open now. i'm using only MSN
[10:09] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: i would file a bug report though cuz there is a bug somewhere in the code. i would try and debug it and help ya with that but im still a novice programmer
[10:10] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: as am i. it's also after 6am for me and i haven't been to sleep yet so there's no way i could be bothered tonight (this morning?) thanks for your help. if it keeps happening i'll look into it some more and file a report
[10:10] <eagles0513875> DrUnKnMuNkY: alright dude have a good night
[10:10] <eagles0513875> or morning
[10:10] <DrUnKnMuNkY> eagles: you too
[10:11] <Arandel[at-work]> hmm guys anybody used kicker-compiz? how do I activate it....
[10:12] <pabligeno> hola
[10:12] <pabligeno> what app i need for manage my cell  phone?
[10:12] <pabligeno> my cellphone is a samsung sgh e906
[10:13] <Uffe555> Anyone know how to change title bar color in compiz-fusion? The ppl in that channel are apparently too busy to answer
[10:20] <bobiras> hi to everyone
[10:21] <bobiras> could someone help me with a very litle problem cause i'm new to ubuntu plz?
[10:21] <emilsedgh> !ask | bobiras
[10:21] <ubotu> bobiras: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:22] <bobiras> ty :)
[10:23] <bobiras> i want to run a programm and the following messege appears. "Another aplication is using the packaging systme database (probably some apt-get application)..."
[10:23] <bobiras> but i cannot find which programm it is
[10:24] <[ifr0g]> !fix adept > bobiras
[10:25] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix | bobiras
[10:25] <ubotu> bobiras: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:25] <emilsedgh> oh, sorry [ifr0g]
[10:25] <[ifr0g]> its k..
[10:25] <pabligeno> hi
[10:25] <pabligeno> what app i need for manage my cell  phone?
[10:25] <pabligeno> my cellphone is a samsung sgh e906
[10:25] <emilsedgh> pabligeno: did you try kmobiletools?
[10:26] <pabligeno> no
[10:26] <pabligeno> wait
[10:26] <emilsedgh> so do :)
[10:26] <pabligeno> ok done
[10:26] <pabligeno> and now?
[10:26] <Arandel[at-work]> guys how do I replace my kicker with kicker-compiz?
[10:27] <emilsedgh> pabligeno: use it :P
[10:28] <pabligeno> how? :$
[10:29] <emilsedgh> pabligeno: open it! its an application, go to kmenu->run command, type kmobiletools and press enter!
[10:29] <lg188> sombody knows a 1person shote free ?
[10:29] <zgmf-x20a> question abt konversation here,  forget how i add channels so they automatically connect when i open konversation, how do i do that again????
[10:29] <lg188> shooter*
[10:29] <pabligeno> hey
[10:30] <pabligeno> this app
[10:30] <pabligeno> not is ffor samsung phones
[10:30] <emilsedgh> lg188: there are a few good games
[10:30] <E_mE> i got a problem, when i use KDM and put my username and password in.. it doesn't go to the desktop
[10:30] <emilsedgh> lg188: try AssualtCube
[10:30] <E_mE> it just freezes after KDM
[10:31] <bobiras> ty for you help
[10:31] <pabligeno> hi!
[10:31] <lg188> emilsedgh ty^^
[10:31] <emilsedgh> np
[10:32] <bobiras> sorry guys, can someone tell me witch is the best way to learn how to use ubuntu cuse i'm a noob? :)
[10:32] <lg188> is boson a good game ?
[10:32] <lg188> bobiras use it and u learn it
[10:33] <lg188> bobiras try some things
[10:33] <emilsedgh> bobiras: the best way is just tryig to use it
[10:34] <bobiras> just trying :)
[10:34] <zgmf-x20a> question abt konversation here,  forget how i add channels so they automatically connect when i open konversation, how do i do that again????
[10:34] <emilsedgh> lg188: i tried it, not too bad, but if you want strategy games try warzone and glob2
[10:34] <emilsedgh> lg188: warzone is like boson, but more complete
[10:34] <emilsedgh> lg188: but glob2 is a very very nice and creative game
[10:35] <emilsedgh> !repeat | zgmf-x20a
[10:35] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:35] <bobiras> ty i'm truing to use it cause i'm boared of windows anymore
[10:35] <emilsedgh> bobiras: windows ? what is that? :P
[10:35] <E_mE> why doesn't my KDE start from KDM>!?!?!?!?!!?
[10:35] <zgmf-x20a> emilsedgh: im sure you your self even know the answer
[10:35] <bobiras> lol
[10:35] <emilsedgh> zgmf-x20a: no, i use kopete...
[10:36] <lg188> emilsedgh i will try theme
[10:36] <zgmf-x20a> really, kopete for irc!?  woah... thats pretty cool
[10:36] <zgmf-x20a> didnt know you could do that
[10:36] <emilsedgh> zgmf-x20a: im happy with kopete...and even i use it 'only' for irc
[10:37] <zgmf-x20a> lol thats aight.  i have to figure that out one day
[10:37] <goodhabit> Hello. How I can install support of mp3, etc? @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats subscribed only ubuntu way. And about proprietary drivers. Where I can find under kubuntu manager of it?
[10:37] <bobiras> does anyone of you is using a external WD hard disk?
[10:37] <lg188> emilsedgh warzone ???vcant find it
[10:38] <lg188> can not*
[10:38] <emilsedgh> lg188: there is no package for it in ubuntu repositories, but it has package for ubuntu in its site
[10:38] <emilsedgh> goodhabit: Kubuntu Gutsy?
[10:38] <zgmf-x20a> goodhabit: open amarok, try to play an mp3 file, it will then prompt yu to install the drivers
[10:38] <goodhabit> emilsedgh: Yes, it is.
[10:38] <thomax_> hmm, something stange just happend to my touchpad on my laptop, looks like mouse acceleration suddenly doubled and the scroll function on the right doesnt work anymore
[10:38] <lg188> emilsedgh an url for me ?
[10:38] <thomax_> anyone any idea?
[10:39] <emilsedgh> goodhabit: when you try to play a mp3 file, it will ask you to install them i think
[10:39] <emilsedgh> lg188: http://wz2100.net/
[10:39] <lg188> emilsedgh ty^^
[10:40] <emilsedgh> np
[10:40] <poison--> mornin guys
[10:40] <poison--> !compiz
[10:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:41] <goodhabit> What is "kubuntu-restricted extras" package?
[10:41] <emilsedgh> goodhabit: includes multimedia codecs...(its a metapackage that points to some other packages that include multimedia codecs, iirc)
[10:42] <lg188> why opens a namles kate file if i ry to d/l a  file ?
[10:42] <emilsedgh> llutz: there are some games that everyone should try: Frozen-Bubble, Neverball and Glob2
[10:42] <ardchoille> lg188: I noticed that too when I tried to download an xmms skin file (.wsz)
[10:45] <bobiras> to add a programm from adept manager is always necessary the kubuntu cd?
[10:45] <thomax_> bobiras: no
[10:45] <lg188> ardchoille kk
[10:45] <emilsedgh> bobiras: no
[10:46] <jpatrick> bobiras: you can remove the cd from Adept -> Manage Thingys
[10:46] <bobiras> cause is asking always the cd to go on
[10:46] <pabligeno> hi
[10:46] <pabligeno> how i can see memory and cpu utilization?
[10:47] <Sereg> Ctrl + Esc
[10:47] <jpatrick> pabligeno: KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter
[10:47] <pabligeno> kde vigilant is poor
[10:47] <newguyss> guys please help, I nned to su but cant, I think I changed my user settings and group, how to solve that
[10:47] <jpatrick> !sudo | newguyss
[10:47] <ubotu> newguyss: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:47] <emilsedgh> pabligeno: top ?
[10:47] <newguyss> yes, I cant run commands as root now
[10:48] <ardchoille> newguyss: sudo not working?
[10:48] <newguyss> ardchoille: yes
[10:48] <pabligeno> mmm
[10:48] <pabligeno> what is top?
[10:48] <pabligeno> i have installed compiz
[10:48] <E_mE> how can i fix my KDM so it actually goes to the desktop.. because at the moment it will let me login but wont let me get to the desktop.. it just freezes at post login....
[10:48] <Sereg> Hello, guys, I would like to start helping kubuntu with my programming skill, but don't know how :(
[10:49] <pabligeno> and unknown the memory utilization
[10:49] <jpatrick> Sereg: follow me to #kubuntu-devel
[10:49] <Sereg> ok
[10:49] <ardchoille> pabligeno:  top - display Linux tasks
[10:49] <bobiras> jpatrick: ty
[10:49] <emilsedgh> Sereg: if you know qt/kde programming, then #lubuntu-devel is a right place for you, also #kde-devel and #kde4-devel need your help
[10:49] <jpatrick> bobiras: you're welcome, sir
[10:50] <pabligeno> Mem:   1547508k total,  1479228k used,    68280k free,   344984k buffers <-- HOWWOWOOW
[10:50] <pabligeno> :(
[10:50] <newguyss> any help?
[10:50] <pabligeno> the utilization memory is very hight
[10:51] <jpatrick> newguyss: what's wrong with sudo?
[10:51] <webvictim> pabligeno: that's because it's cached
[10:51] <webvictim> pabligeno: type free -m
[10:51] <pabligeno> ok
[10:51] <newguyss> jpatrick: not working, I think I restricted my user while testing something
[10:51] <webvictim> and you'll see the true figures
[10:51] <pabligeno> root@Kubuntu:/home/pabligeno# free -m
[10:51] <pabligeno>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:51] <pabligeno> Mem:          1511       1446         65          0        337
[10:52] <jpatrick> newguyss: the user should be part of "sudo"
[10:52] <pabligeno> i have 1.5 gb of memory
[10:52] <webvictim> odd
[10:52] <webvictim>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[10:52] <webvictim> Mem:          1001        945         55          0        143        552
[10:52] <webvictim> that's what mine says
[10:52] <pabligeno> and compiz used 1.4?
[10:52] <pabligeno> ::S
[10:52] <webvictim> pabligeno: what about the line below?
[10:52] <webvictim> -/+ buffers/cache:        249        751
[10:52] <pabligeno> feee -m
[10:52] <pabligeno> mmmmmm
[10:52] <webvictim> that means that 249mb of my RAM is actual stuff, and 751mb is cache
[10:52] <newguyss> jpatrick: i think that my user is not part of sudo any more, how to fix that?
[10:52] <pabligeno> my english is poor
[10:52] <pabligeno> :$
[10:52] <lg188> kq ?
[10:52] <pabligeno> im dont undestand
[10:52] <pabligeno> :$
[10:53] <jpatrick> newguyss: do you the install cd?
[10:53] <lg188> !kq
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <pabligeno> any spanish help¡?
[10:53] <webvictim> yo hablo solo un poco espanol :P
[10:53] <pabligeno> :D
[10:53] <newguyss> jpatrick: yes I have it
[10:53] <pabligeno> me puedes decir que significa eso?
[10:53] <pabligeno> compiz usa casi toda mi memoria ram
[10:53] <emilsedgh> !es | pabligeno
[10:53] <ubotu> pabligeno: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:53] <webvictim> (we're not supposed to talk spanish here :P)
[10:54] <nathan_> hey dudes im new to kubuntu
[10:54] <pabligeno> jaja
[10:54] <pabligeno> ok ok
[10:54] <pabligeno> well
[10:54] <emilsedgh> !hi | nathan_
[10:54] <ubotu> nathan_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:54] <nathan_> im currently on 640x res, it's killing me hehe
[10:54] <webvictim> but compiz is not using all your RAM :)
[10:54] <jpatrick> newguyss: well, I think you'll have to go into it and chroot your disk and fix it from there
[10:54] <webvictim> it is just a feature of linux
[10:55] <eagles0513875> what does this mean
[10:55] <eagles0513875> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:55] <eagles0513875> im trying to install transkode from source
[10:55] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: install xlibs-dev
[10:55] <nathan_> i must say this is an awesome platform, everything is great, auto detected my nic,audio, just need to install vid card drivers ;)
[10:55] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: ty
[10:55] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: then you need kdelis-bdevel too
[10:56] <goodhabit> Guys, sorry for offtopic, last question - somebody can advice some mmorpg? ^)
[10:56] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: kdelibs-devel
[10:56]  * goodhabit loves kubuntu.
[10:56] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: can those be found in gutsy repos
[10:56] <lg188> kq do not enter config it screws your screen
[10:56] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: yes, sure
[10:57] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: didnt find the xlibs-dev in repos
[10:57] <emilsedgh> so 1 minute please, eagles0513875
[10:57] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: ok
[10:57] <nathan_> brb
[10:58] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: thats xorg-dev
[10:59] <eagles0513875> also kdelibs-devel i couldnt find either
[10:59] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: also kdelibs-devel i couldnt find either
[10:59] <emilsedgh> eagles0513875: thats kdelibs4-devel or kdelibs4c2a or something like this, search in adept
[11:00] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: ok give me a min to finish installing xorg-dev
[11:02] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: ty its working now
[11:03] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:03] <jpatrick> eagles0513875: install libqt3-mt-dev
[11:04] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: ok
[11:05] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: i already have it installed
[11:05] <jpatrick> ok, that's just weird
[11:05] <jpatrick> eagles0513875: what app is it?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> transkode
[11:06] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: i already have its dependency installed
[11:06] <bobiras_> sorry guys, do i need any spyware for linux or it's useless?
[11:07] <jpatrick> bobiras_: useless, welcome to the land of the free
[11:07] <bobiras_> :)
[11:07] <bobiras_> better
[11:07] <ardchoille> bobiras_: No, you definately don't need spyware for Linux
[11:07] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: i fixed it
[11:07] <bobiras_> finaly a serious OS
[11:07] <eagles0513875> had to download compat headers for previous versions
[11:07] <eagles0513875> bobiras_: and if u got a 64bit processor try out the 64bit version of kubuntu