[03:08] <rydare> fossfreedom: you already saw it haha
[03:08] <rydare> you seem to be on the ball
[03:09] <rydare> sorry i went afk for a while
[03:22] <NoCode> Man, Budgie is solid.
[03:27] <rydare> sometimes i dream of leaving the whole desktop environment scene behind
[03:27] <rydare> and writing some improvements to flwm
[03:47] <rydare> huh, firefox isn't showing in budgie menu
[03:47] <rydare> is there a way to update it?
[03:48] <rydare> oh, killing budgie-panel worked to make it update
[04:54] <NoCode> I only had one major problem with Budgie after installation. Since then it's been 100%
[04:54] <rydare> what version are you running
[04:55] <NoCode> 16.04 version.
[04:55] <rydare> oh classic
[04:55] <rydare> i like being on the edge
[04:55] <NoCode> ah
[04:55] <rydare> even though things break
[04:55] <NoCode> When the other LTS gets released, I'll switch I think.
[04:55] <NoCode> In a month or whatever.
[04:56] <NoCode> And if it's a shitshow, I'll move to something other than Ubuntu. They better get it right. :P
[04:56] <rydare> Ubuntu is pretty good
[04:57] <NoCode> Yeah it's alright
[05:02] <rydare> works pretty good every release
[05:02] <rydare> sometimes you have to tweak things to your needs
[05:03] <NoCode> oh yea, definitely. Totally agree.
[05:05] <NoCode> Been using Ubuntu since Dapper Drake I think it was. Yeah. Well, a few years not, but mostly yes.
[05:05] <rydare> I've had installations outlive hardware
[05:06] <NoCode> :)
[05:07] <rydare> one day i went down for a reboot, new kernel i think
[05:07] <rydare> it never came back up
[05:07] <rydare> and the graphics card had died so i couldn't attach a monitor to the pc
[05:48] <NoCode> :/
[07:51] <cubamukundan> Anybody know how much accessible Ubuntu Budgie is?
[09:20] <fossfreedom> What do you mean by "accessible?
[09:58] <NoCode> and what do you mean how much?
[09:58] <NoCode> by*


[02:57] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:30] <marcoagpinto> Heya!
[07:06] <guiverc> anyone know (off the top of their head) what package pulls in HWE for 20.04 desktop?
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:12] <oerheks> !hwe
[07:13] <guiverc> I was looking for a package dep that makes ubuntu desktop pull in HWE, where as Lubuntu (for 20.04 & 20.04.1) media does not.. I expected to find it, but haven't (yet anyway, hence question)
[07:14] <oerheks> linux-generic-hwe-20.04 ?
[07:14] <guiverc> I realize `ubiquity` of other flavors can make decisions as to kernel which complicates things... and maybe that's key to why I can't find it... it's decided by ubiquity
[07:15] <guiverc> (lubuntu uses calamares; 20.04 & 20.04.1 media installed with GA kernel only.. so users of those still use 5.4)
[07:24] <guiverc> Ubuntu Server uses subiquity & defaults to GA like Lubuntu does.. maybe it is ubiquity that adds package (which makes sense given recent OEM kernel options that were added.. that led to need to replace it..)
[07:27] <guiverc> :) changelog makes it look like it's ubiquity, not package rule...
[07:29] <ducasse> good morning
[20:08] <leftyfb> tomreyn: how much you wanna bet they're not even running ubuntu? :)
[20:08]  * leftyfb is shocked
[20:09] <daftykins> ooh time for another round of 'guess the distro'!
[20:12] <tomreyn> leftyfb: haha
[21:31] <Bashing-om> UWN671 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue671 .


[05:21] <luna__> morning 20.04.5 downloaded and updated
[14:28] <vimescapedot97> hi fellas got a subiquity/cloud-init/autoinstall question, anyone here that knows their way around that topic?
[14:30] <effendy[m]> vimescapedot97: do you think anyone is going to answer if you don't have an actual question?
[14:33] <vimescapedot> task ubuntu-desktop-minimal fails during cloud-init. same with an ^ at the end. Also fails in late-commands when called via apt-get install --yes --no-install-recommends -q
[14:34] <vimescapedot> kubuntu and ubuntu-desktop same story. all fail with exit code 100
[14:34] <vimescapedot> and crash the entire installer
[14:38] <vimescapedot> could this be a problem with me using a VM to test my ISO with?
[14:50] <vimescapedot78> where ever I go with that topic I meet dead silence.
[14:51] <tomreyn> vimescapedot: if you have a complete configuration (autoinstall file) or a bug report (file a bug if you can make subiquity quit unexpectedly), and several hours or days of patience, this could help your cause.
[14:52] <vimescapedot78> bug is filed at launchpad I guess?
[14:53] <vimescapedot78> honestly I sort of expect the issue to be me, but sofar I wasn't able to get anything out of the web concerning this
[14:53] <vimescapedot78> finally
[14:54] <tomreyn> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/reporting-problems
[14:54] <vimescapedot> thanks a lot tom
[14:55] <tomreyn> you're welcome, those links are also in /topic
[14:57] <tomreyn> please file a separate bug report for every separate issue, do not try to merge them into one report.
[15:27] <vimescapedot> I fixed it
[15:27] <vimescapedot> apparently
[15:27] <vimescapedot> refresh-installer: true
[15:28] <vimescapedot> looks like mine was somehow damaged
[16:55] <ghvail|wtf> Anyone know of a good way to see the changelog between the  5.15.0-1017 and 5.15.0-1019 linux-aws packages? Seems like the ones on packages. are just info like "Bump ABI 5.15.0-1019" but not what changed within the package. Mostly just curious
[18:14] <sarnold> ghavil: check /usr/share/doc/linux*modules*/changelog.Debian.gz  files
[18:30] <RoyK> $ LC_ALL=C ls /usr/share/doc/linux*modules*/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:30] <RoyK> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/doc/linux*modules*/changelog.Debian.gz': No such file or directory
[18:32] <sarnold> :(
[18:33] <ahasenack> git is probably best
[18:33] <ahasenack> maybe start at https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu-stable/ubuntu-stable-jammy.git/
[18:34] <ahasenack> or https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/
[18:34] <sarnold> I thought of that, but cloning our git trees is just brutal
[18:34] <sarnold> .. after you figure out which of the hundred-ish repos to use, which branches to look at, etc :)
[18:34] <sarnold> certainly it can answer questions the changelog can't
[18:35] <ahasenack> there is this too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-aws
[18:35] <ahasenack> but d/changelog tends to be terse
[18:35] <ahasenack> although https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-aws/5.15.0-1019.23 (example) seems to be detailed
[18:35] <ahasenack> ghavil: ^
[18:35] <ahasenack> poke around
[18:36] <ghavil> Oh interesting, I didn't think to get to launchpad to see
[18:36] <ghavil> That looks great though, thank you!


[00:04] <cjwatson> ... OK, that query is apparently very slow, I might try it again later since I'll be cut off by staging's weekly restore soon
[00:07] <cjwatson> The whole librarian is around 87TiB at the moment though, so even build logs for ~300K builds seem unlikely to be more than a fraction of a percent of that, given that they tend to compress well too.  I suspect that storage increases will outstrip the rate at which we need to care about this sort of thing
[00:08] <cjwatson> (We do currently have to do a bit of gardening every so often - there's some in progress at the moment - but typical targets for that tend to be things like binaries from old test rebuilds instead)
[00:17] <tsimonq2> Makes sense. To be honest, I expected triple digit terabytes but close enough ;)


[00:25] <josharenson1> What video formats are supported on the phone? I have a MediaPlayer object in a qml app, and its giving me "error 2" which looks like "format not supported". File is mpg, and plays fine on the desktop (in the same qml app)
[06:03] <zsombi> mhall119: no, it's not part of the API, but we can add extra configuration clauses to drive that. I would not put it in preset, as that one drives the layout more, and the flag, and this is about the actions rather than the complete Header layout. I think a bug/wish item could be filed against UITK to track that.
[06:04] <zsombi> mhall119: however, don't forget that convergence will bring the Menu components, maybe that would cover this better
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[09:53] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Data Protection Day! :-D
[10:06] <dholbach> hey daker
[10:06] <dholbach> daker, how are you doing? how's life?
[10:07] <dholbach> daker, I had a look at the rssreader example and I'm a bit unsure about what the lines in this section are there for: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-html5-theme-devs/ubuntu-html5-theme/trunk/view/head:/examples/html5-theme/apps/rss-reader/app.js#L53
[10:35] <daker> dholbach: yo
[10:35] <dholbach> hey hey :)
[10:35] <AkivaAvraham> Oh hey akiva-thinkpad
[10:36] <akiva-thinkpad> ah hi
[10:36] <daker> dholbach: that's if you want to add a new feed
[10:36] <daker> dholbach: from the toolbar
[10:36] <dholbach> right
[10:37] <dholbach> I didn't quite understand why the parts below        if (url [10:37] <daker> dholbach: if the url var is empty the dialog will shake
[10:38] <dholbach> ahhhhh ok
[10:39] <daker> :)
[10:39] <dholbach> nice!
[10:57] <dpm> popey, when you've got the chance, could you go through http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ and see which ones needs attention/update or can be rejected?
[10:59] <popey> dpm: yep.
[11:00] <dpm> great, thanks
[11:20] <rpadovani> popey, gcollura when do you have some spare time, could you please take a look to [0], read comments and leave your feedback? :-)
[11:20] <rpadovani> [0]: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/closeBrackets150127/+merge/247690
[11:29] <popey> rpadovani: sure
[11:44] <bzoltan> popey:  I have read your feedback. thank you. I have seen the same, but I had to keep the app name otherwise the store would not accept as update
[12:02] <popey> bzoltan: yeah, that was just the warning from the check tools... pasted for reference
[12:02] <bzoltan> popey:  I will try to look after it for the next update
[12:03] <popey> no worris. it's a warning, which means I generally ignore them :)
[12:08] <akiva-thinkpad> !ping
[12:10] <popey> akiva-thinkpad: heya!
[12:10] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, pong o/
[12:11] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, http://i.imgur.com/Z4TPN9o.png
[12:12] <akiva-thinkpad> ;)
[12:14] <popey> hah
[12:16] <davmor2> akiva-thinkpad: I'm confuesd why would you check popey for fleas twice ;)
[12:16] <akiva-thinkpad> davmor2, Rigorous testing is ubuntu's standard
[12:17] <akiva-thinkpad> davmor2, although the true story was me wrestling with a gimp text layer, and losing.
[12:17] <davmor2> akiva-thinkpad: hahaha
[12:23] <mihir> popey: ping
[12:23] <akiva-thinkpad> mihir, o/ havn't seen you in awhile. Hope you had a good new year
[12:24] <mihir> hey akiva-thinkpad wish you the same
[12:24] <akiva-thinkpad> \o/
[12:24] <mihir> yes akiva-thinkpad i am in middle of shifting my home and family , so busy with that. Also settling with new job.
[12:25] <akiva-thinkpad> congrats on the new job. Software Engineer I take it?
[12:25] <mihir> Yes.
[12:25] <akiva-thinkpad> very nice; glad to hear it.
[12:25] <mihir> thank you akiva-thinkpad.
[12:25] <mihir> i will be back with my time with in few weeks.
[12:35] <popey> mihir: heya!
[14:37] <mhall119> zsombi: indeed, menus (and HUD) might be a better option that adding more variation to the Header
[14:37] <mhall119> rickspencer3: did you see zsombi's reply earlier?
[14:39] <rickspencer3> mhall119, I did not
[14:39] <zsombi> mhall119: rickspencer3: we just discussed this with t1mp and we agreed that we will add a configuration property to Page.head which will allow you to configure the amount of actions to be shown in the Header: i.e if this number is zero, all the actions will be shown in the drawer
[14:39] <mhall119> 01:02 < zsombi> mhall119: no, it's not part of the API, but we can add extra  configuration clauses to drive that. I would not put it in  preset, as that one drives the layout more, and the flag, and  this is about the actions rather than the complete Header  layout. I think a bug/wish item could be filed against UITK to  track that.
[14:39] <mhall119> 01:03 < zsombi> mhall119: however, don't forget that convergence will bring the  Menu components, maybe that would cover this better
[14:40] <mhall119> zsombi: is the plan still to let the default adjust to available space?
[14:41] <zsombi> mhall119: rickspencer3: as wrote earlier, Menus might be more suiotable for what you need, but twe are a bit far from having that in the toolkit
[14:41] <rickspencer3> ok
[14:41] <rickspencer3> thanks
[14:42] <t1mp> zsombi: hold on
[14:42] <t1mp> zsombi: sure we need that? Currently you can set it in the style for the header
[14:42] <zsombi> mhall119: in order to have that, we would need one of the Header building elements to drive it...
[14:43] <zsombi> t1mp: you don't want app developers to mess always with the style...
[14:43] <zsombi> t1mp: especially when we are talking about teh header...
[14:44] <t1mp> zsombi: depends if it is something you want to change per-page or per-app
[14:45] <zsombi> t1mp: well... yes
[14:45] <zsombi> t1mp: if you want to have a change only on one page, then it'd be worth having a config property rather than creating my own app style, and setting that...
[14:45] <t1mp> zsombi: true
[14:46] <zsombi> t1mp: otoh, perhaps having style hints we could also overrule parts of the original style...
[14:46] <t1mp> rickspencer3: what was the use case?
[14:47] <t1mp> zsombi: do we have a bug for this yet?
[14:48] <zsombi> t1mp: I don't think so, ast least I did not see any yet...
[14:48]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[14:51] <mhall119> t1mp: zsombi: I have not filed a bug yet
[14:55] <davidcalle> dholbach, I also fixed the outdated https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/packaging-click-apps/ page. Since the SDK is always a moving target (in a good way!) I'm wondering if we shouldn't have a small disclaimer on pages with screenshots : <your SDK version may slightly differ from the one used to make screenshots for this page. If you are unsure about what you should do, you can ask for guidance at <irc link> or on AskUbuntu >
[14:55] <dholbach> bzoltan, ^ what do you think?
[14:55] <davidcalle> ...or something like that
[14:55] <t1mp> mhall119: ok. Please send me the link when you report the bug
[14:55] <davidcalle> "If you are unsure about what you should do, look for bzoltan on IRC" :p
[14:55] <bzoltan> davidcalle: dholbach: sounds fair to me
[14:56] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe we could have a small plugin for that? :)
[14:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, good idea. I'll see what I can come up with. /me files bug
[14:57] <dholbach> woohoo!
[15:11] <mhall119> t1mp: zsombi: I'm not sure what to put in a bug report at this point
[15:14] <t1mp> mhall119: "ability to move all header actions to the overflow"
[15:14] <t1mp> mhall119: ^that's what I understood from it so far. But we can always tweak the description later
[15:14] <t1mp> mhall119: adding a use case would be nice
[15:15] <t1mp> mhall119: we agreed with design that we make it automatic like we have now, so I like to check with them as well what's the best way to do this, and it is easier if I have a bug to refer to
[15:17] <mhall119> t1mp: ok
[17:32] <keek> ^
[17:56] <popey> dpm: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ is back down to a more reasonable size, more to do though..
[17:57] <dpm> nice!
[17:57] <dpm> good work everyone
[18:10] <josharenson> Sorry to repeat a question from yesterday, but I've been offline... What video formats are supported on the phone? I have a MediaPlayer object in a qml app, and its giving me "error 2" which looks like "format not supported". File is mpg, and plays fine on the desktop (in the same qml app)
[18:10] <beuno> josharenson, it's gstreamer underneath AFAIK
[18:11] <josharenson> beuno: interesting, ill write a small, more confined app, and try other codecs to test...
[18:50] <Z3> Hi, I would like to ask if it's possible to run Eclipse in Nvidia Jetson TK1 board. I would like to use it as a desktop pc, for developing and gaming (open source games, not intel games).
[18:51] <Z3> including developing Android applications with Eclipse
[18:51] <Z3> sorry, this was for other channel
[21:38] <rpadovani> popey, if you have some spare time, I did a first implementation of favourite feature in calculator: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/favouriteImplementation20150128/+merge/247900


[00:40] <jbicha> darkxst: ubiquity has an icon in gnome-shell now, I attached a screenshot to bug 1203224
[00:58] <Ben64> is there any way to get 13.10 classic mode to look and act ... classic?
[05:11] <roasted> hello friends!
[05:14] <thunder1212> hi
[05:20] <roasted> hi
[05:21] <thunder1212> iam downloadin ubuntu gnome 13.04
[05:21] <thunder1212> amd64
[05:30] <roasted> nice
[05:30] <roasted> I wish I could use 13.04.
[05:30] <roasted> 13.04 comes with kernel 3.8, which has given me a ton of grief on this laptop. It goes into a hardlock mode randomly. It's not a fault of Ubuntu Gnome, I've seen it with other distros using kernel 3.8. I'm on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 alpha now with kernel 3.10 and it hasn't locked up a single time.
[05:31] <roasted> If I could use the LTS and use Gnome 3.8 I'd hop on that in a hot second, but it's not really possible.
[05:41] <thunder1212> roasted: my laptop had a problem with kernel 3.0(the one in ubuntu11.10 and every other linux distro at that version). My laptop would drain in half an hour and the fans would be running at extremely high speed
[05:43] <thunder1212> roasted: why does this happen have any idea ?
[05:43] <roasted> I have no idea. But I wouldn't be using 11.10 to begin with.
[05:45] <thunder1212> roasted: at one point of time it was the latest?
[05:46] <roasted> at one point, yes
[05:46] <roasted> kernel 3.10 was released recently
[05:46] <roasted> I wouldn't have a clue hwo to troubleshoot 3.0 as its an older kernel
[05:46] <thunder1212> roasted: i keep getting some crash report or the other on my laptop runnign ubuntu 12.04?
[05:47] <thunder1212> roasted: some or the other application crashes always, and i get this "Sorry Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error."
[05:49] <roasted> thunder1212: that's just apport thinking it ran into an issue in the background
[05:49] <roasted> you can disable that if you like
[05:49] <thunder1212> roasted: how?
[05:49] <roasted> sudo gedit /etc/default/apport
[05:49] <roasted> you'll see enabled=1
[05:49] <roasted> change the 1 to 0
[05:49] <roasted> save
[05:54] <thunder1212> roasted: do you know how i can have a window list on gnome 3
[05:55] <thunder1212> roasted: where do the windows go when minimised?
[05:55] <roasted> thunder1212: they go to the dock, located in the activities overlay menu.
[05:55] <roasted> thunder1212: there are extensions available if you want them in your sight at all times
[05:56] <thunder1212> roasted: what do you usually do to manage windows just let them be in the activities lverlay?
[05:56] <roasted> thunder1212: I'm a huge alt-tab user, so I use that for the most part.
[05:57] <thunder1212> roasted: but when you have many windows open for same application then?
[06:02] <roasted> thunder1212: many windows open for the same application? Like what?
[06:02] <thunder1212> roasted: firefox
[06:02] <roasted> I only ever have 1 Firefox window open
[06:02] <roasted> just multiple tabs within that single window
[06:02] <thunder1212> roasted: or spreadsheet
[06:03] <thunder1212> roasted: ok i have downloaded ubuntu gnome 1304 and am transfering it to usb will reinstall and be back
[06:04] <thunder1212> bye
[06:04] <roasted> have fun
[08:41] <kirito> hi
[08:43] <smok35645gff> Is Ubuntu includes the latest versions of Gnome Gnome 3? Is Gnome 3 has a panel that infomuje battery status?
[09:07] <thunder1212> hi
[09:08] <thunder1212> hi
[16:30] <roasted> devs - I'm curious on your stance with 13.10. I've noticed lately a lot less apport popups. I can only imagine more and more bugs are getting squashed.


[00:21] <muka_> Can someone tell me if Meizu MX4 would work on t-mobile network in US? Also, is it possible to get MX4 Android edition and flash it to Ubuntu?
[00:22] <nhaines> It would, where T-Mobile hasn't disabled their 2G network.
[00:22] <nhaines> It is possible to flash some  Android MX4s with Ubuntu, but you won't be able to tell until you have it in your hand.
[00:23] <nhaines> So maybe don't do that.
[00:27] <muka_> nhaines, thank you.
[00:28] <nhaines> muka_: you're welcome, and good luck finding one.  It's a nie system.  :)
[00:29] <nhaines> s/nie/nice/
[00:30] <muka_> Is there a hardware difference between Android vs Ubuntu edition?
[00:33] <nhaines> Not that I'm aware of.
[00:33] <nhaines> Other than the screen, I mean.
[05:01] <JMD> Hey I got a Nexus 4 runing ubuntu touch, I saw that OTA7 should be release 26 but mine says r24 anyone know why?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> JMD: wich channel are you on?
[05:02] <JMD> Good question, hang on
[05:03] <nhaines> JMD: there was no OTA7 for mako yet.
[05:03] <nhaines> Should be coming soon.
[05:04] <nhaines> The "why" is that they're in the middle of arranging things so that it's closer to the retail phone images.
[05:04] <JMD> Ahah, ok
[05:04] <JMD> thx
[05:05] <JMD> Really liking Ubuntu touch, has come on a long way, just wish it had whatsapp
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> JMD: telegram instead
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> whatsapp is very unsecure
[05:06] <nhaines> source: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16328.html
[05:06] <JMD> I know, I'd use that anyday, but it's difficult to get other ppl to come over
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> JMD: yes security is hard to convince to ppl over enjoyment
[05:06] <JMD> ppl look blankly when you try and tell them
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> lol been there
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> ususally i get answers like:..but why dont you install messenger or whatsapp
[05:09] <JMD> and sadly the most coverage of Telegram I've seen was a report that terrorists where using it cos of it's security....
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:13] <JMD> so back to OTA7, I was mislead then by online tech sites who all said it was available for the Nexus 4
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> JMD: GOT URL FOR THAT?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> oops
[05:15] <JMD> sure hang on
[05:15] <JMD> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-touch-ota-7-fully-deployed-developers-begin-work-on-ota-8-494961.shtml
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> JMD: yeah mentions n4
[05:18] <nhaines> They've also reported me as being a Canonical employee twice.
[05:18] <JMD> here too: http://techfrag.com/2015/10/21/ubuntu-touch-ota-7-update-available-download-supported-devices/
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> journalism...they never investigate the real facts
[05:21] <JMD> So where should I be looking to make sure I'm getting the right news? The Canonical email list?
[05:23] <nhaines> Prett much.
[05:23] <nhaines> Pretty much.  :)
[05:23] <JMD> ok
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> JMD: i read omgubuntu and softpedia, but some facts might be untrue indeed
[05:24] <nhaines> Of course, they also didn't bother telling anyone until somebody asked, so...  :)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> JMD: the twitter is pretty nice too: https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[05:26] <JMD> cool, thx
[05:29] <JMD> the twitter mentions the coming of convergence to ubuntu touch, any ideas if the Nexus 4 will be able to support it?
[05:29] <nhaines> Depends what you mean by "convergence."
[05:30] <JMD> um, ok, can you explain?
[05:30] <nhaines> Every phone ever will be able to run any Ubuntu app compiled for ARM.  Only some will be able to output to an external display.  The Nexus 7 can. I *think* the Nexus 4 can, too.
[05:31] <nhaines> I know the bq and Meizu phones can't.
[05:31] <JMD> ok, the nexus 4 can output to an external screen
[05:32] <JMD> I bought a cable and it does, although it didn't display quite as I expected, but I did get it from a cheap PC place here in Hong Kong....
[05:38] <JMD> I guess for me convergence means being able to plug the phone into a dock that has a screen, keyboard, mouse and carrying on working. The demos I have seen have shown something like this
[06:50] <CoZo> hello everybody
[06:50] <CoZo> I wonder if someone here have a touch screen problem on nexus 4
[06:50] <CoZo> some part of mine are not "touchable"
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:37] <JMD> @CoZo: Don't have that issue on mine, anywhere in particular?
[07:39] <CoZo> JMD: yes a bad in the up of the screen
[07:39] <CoZo> band
[07:39] <CoZo> not all the screen
[08:01] <tvoss> mardy, would appreciate a ta here: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/add-documentation-and-tooling/+merge/275006
[08:03] <mardy> tvoss: done!
[08:03] <tvoss> mardy, thx
[08:08] <Maemo> Good morning. tonight i received a 9 mb update for my meizu ubuntu edition, i wanna see the updates change log, do you have a link for that?
[08:14] <tvoss> mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/550 for the rtc fix landing vivid+o
[08:14] <tvoss> mardy, silo is building
[08:15] <mardy> tvoss: cool!
[08:15] <mardy> tvoss: and finally I got a GPS fix :-) Now enabling wireless, let's see if I can reproduce the bug
[08:16] <tvoss> mardy, ah great
[08:32] <mcphail> :( - dbus problems are back this morning
[08:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Wily Werewolf welease day! 😃
[08:35] <mcphail> O'Weally?
[08:38] <mcphail> When do we get the next release codename? There are only one or 2 Ubuntu-appropriate adjectives starting with "X"
[08:38] <diwic> mcphail, it's Xenial Xerus
[08:38]  * mcphail knows xenial but will have to google for xerus
[08:39] <JMD> type of squirel
[08:39] <JMD> squirrel
[08:39] <mcphail> aah
[08:39] <JMD> very sociable apparantly
[08:40] <diwic> the end of mark's post says "...courage" two times, makes me wonder if "...courage" means something else than "courage" and if so, what it actually means
[08:40] <JMD> and xenial” means “friendly relations between hosts and guests
[08:40] <mcphail> Is this on MS's blog?
[08:40] <diwic> yep
[08:40] <JMD> referencing Xen KVM etc
[08:41] <mardy> Saviq: hi! fixes for bug 1508363 can be dual landed, right?
[08:41] <Saviq> mardy, yup
[08:41] <mardy> Saviq: thanks
[08:41] <mardy> dbarth: ^
[08:43] <mardy> tvoss: looks like I cannot reproduce the bug, maybe I need more wifis around. Guess I'll go out for a walk :-)
[08:43] <tvoss> mardy, yup, city-center setups are more likely to trigger the issue
[08:44] <dbarth> ok
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> anyone has a music scope freeze when sliding on new ota7 bq 4.5?
[11:53]  * ogra_ sighs about softpedia
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: :p
[11:54] <Stskeeps> ogra_: what did they announce now?
[11:54] <ogra_> if people could refrain from prematurely sending release notices out that would really really help the release tem doing their work
[11:54] <davmor2> ogra_: and omgubuntu too
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Stskeeps: <JMD> so back to OTA7, I was mislead then by online tech sites who all said it was available for the Nexus 4
[11:54] <ogra_>  ... every time the same
[11:54] <ogra_> sigh
[11:55] <ogra_> it totally unnecessary delays it for everyone
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> ogra_: many other urls's describing same info spreading around
[11:55] <ogra_> not reason to chime in
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> im wondering who started it
[11:56] <ogra_> someone ,... as every release
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> the ubuntu twitter page also forwards the info
[11:57] <ogra_> the point is, the more people download it prematurely the slower any kind of mirror population goes ....
[11:58] <ogra_> the only valid info is the ubuntu-announce ML ... the next valid one is #ubuntu-release ... there is no other official source
[11:58] <ogra_> it isnt released before infinity says so ... thats it
[11:59] <Guest42341> :))
[12:00]  * svij always publishes the release article *after* the release e-mail are out
[12:00] <ogra_> yeah, thats good habit :)
[12:00]  * Guest42341 for some people, ubuntu 15.10 was released 6 months ago :P
[12:01] <popey> lotuspsychje: OTA-7 _is_ available for Nexus 4
[12:01] <popey> if you're on the right channel.
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> popey: tnx lemme try it mate, im devel-proposed
[12:02] <popey> [M#xSNexus 4 : ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu - mako: #24
[12:02] <popey> it says on the ota-7 page
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme try on n7
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> popey: update version 269 downloading on n7
[12:08] <popey> lotuspsychje: well, the wiki never lies ;)
[12:08] <mcphail> ogra_: it isn't reasonable to expect other sites to delay release news when sabdfl has as good as said the release has happened
[12:08] <popey> lotuspsychje: some channels have it, others dont, but it is possible to get ota 7 on nexus 4
[12:08] <popey> +1
[12:08] <ogra_> mcphail, indeed
[12:08] <popey> this happens every release, we should netflix and chill
[12:08] <popey> or something
[12:09] <jgdx> eeh
[12:10] <ogra_> popey, am i allowed to netflix with annoyed face ?
[12:10] <ogra_> :)
[12:10] <popey> sure
[12:10] <ogra_> ood then
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> popey: version 269 15.04 up n running on nexus7 devel-proposed
[12:39] <jgdx> abeato, hey, has there been a change to ofono related to the “Present” property on the simmanager interface?
[12:40] <abeato> jgdx, hmm, there was a related change upstream that we merged
[12:40] <abeato> jgdx, what difference do you see?
[12:41] <jgdx> abeato, when in flight mode, present is 1 (simmanager) and online is 0 (modem).
[12:42] <jgdx> so not completely sure yet
[12:43] <abeato> jgdx, that should be the same as before, at least for mako
[12:43] <abeato> jgdx, for mtk modems simmanager is not exposed in fm iirc
[12:44] <jgdx> abeato, oh okay
[12:44] <abeato> (if there is a sim of course)
[12:46] <chrisccoulson> Should QCamera::availableDevices() return anything on the phone?
[12:56] <ahayzen> dbarth_, Hey, I was told you may be the best person to speak to about this, I had a WebView that played some audio (possibly two at the same time) when this occurred it caused the whole phone to freeze and then reboot. It doesn't happen often (its happened twice so far) but i was wondering if it has been reported before, or if there are any logs i would be able to look at the next time it happens?
[12:57] <ogra_> ahayzen, definitely take a look at /var/crash
[12:57] <ogra_> (and check the timestamps)
[12:58] <ahayzen> ogra_, but the phone froze for like 5-10s then rebooted, would there even be enough time for apport to kick in?
[12:58]  * ahayzen checks anyway
[12:59] <dbarth_> ahayzen: hi
[12:59] <ahayzen> ogra_, only the push-client, dash, location services and scopes have crash files
[12:59] <dbarth_> ahayzen: where you using the background playback feature?
[13:00] <ogra_> ahayzen, any of them with a timestamp that matches the crash time ?
[13:00] <ahayzen> dbarth_, yes its with the new bg-playlists media-hub, but the application itself was focused and it was a short sound
[13:00] <ahayzen> ogra_, i don't think so
[13:00] <ogra_> :(
[13:01] <ahayzen> ogra_, i've had hardoffs via the camera before that don't create a .crash, i was told that was something in the android side bfore
[13:01] <ogra_> indeed, that could be
[13:01] <ogra_> you can use /system/bin/logcat to inspect that side
[13:02] <ogra_> (though that wont help if you already rebooted indeed)
[13:02] <ahayzen> yeah :-/ ... or if the phone reboots itself ? ;-)
[13:02] <ogra_> right
[13:02] <dbarth_> ahayzen: shouldn't have crashed anyway; you can file a bug report, and i can direct it to one of the developers to see what's wrong
[13:03] <ahayzen> dbarth_, ok, which project should it be against, oxide ?
[13:03] <dbarth_> i possible, list down the ways to reproduce, and the use of the particular new playlist support with media hub
[13:03] <dbarth_> ahayzen: i would file against media-hub for now
[13:03] <dbarth_> and then we can see if that's a bad interaction from xoide / the webview, or not
[13:03] <ahayzen> ok cool
[13:04] <jhodapp> dbarth_, why against media-hub? It's not using media-hub for playback to my understanding
[13:04] <dbarth_> ahayzen: jus ping me the bug number, as i may not get it automatically via a notification
[13:04] <dbarth_> jhodapp: bg playlist support?
[13:05] <jhodapp> dbarth_, but I thought this was playback from a webapp which wouldn't even touch bg playlists
[13:05] <dbarth_> ahayzen: you mean the webview is embedded in a qml app wich itself calls media-hub directly with the new playlist feature ?
[13:05] <ahayzen> dbarth_, i mean it is a qml app with a WebView ... and the website itself plays audio
[13:05] <ahayzen> so its coming from oxide
[13:06] <ahayzen> i'm not linking in anyway with media-hub
[13:06] <dbarth_> ah, so that's plain oxide, and it have the env. variable to play in the background then
[13:06] <dbarth_> ok, clearer; then oxide and i'll send to justinmcp
[13:06] <ahayzen> and the window was focussed all of the time anyway, so it wasn't making use of the background stuff
[13:08] <dbarth_> ahayzen: then please specify the image rev., installed oxide package (liboxideqtcore0) and web url being played
[13:08] <ahayzen> hah :-)
[13:08] <ahayzen> cool will do :-)
[13:17] <ahayzen> dbarth_, i've reported bug 1508927 will update if and when I find out more info/reproducible steps
[13:18] <dbarth_> ahayzen: thanks, triaging
[13:18] <ahayzen> thanks
[14:11] <mariogrip> 15.10 YAAY \o/
[14:15] <ogra_> not really
[14:16] <ogra_> (that was a mis-routed mail to ubuntu-release)
[14:42] <mardy> tvoss: about the runtime toggling of the logging; do you prefer a simple boolean switch, or something more complex (but, if we closely mimick glog, we'd have two variables, which might be uncomfortable to use)
[14:42] <mardy> tvoss: IOW, are you fine with a simple boolean which sets both FLAGS_v=100 and FLAGS_logtostderr=1?
[14:44] <tvoss> mardy, I think a Property "VerbosityLevel" should be good enough, that also allows for some control from the outside
[14:44] <mardy> tvoss: +1
[14:45] <mardy> tvoss: BTW, I think you misunderstood me before: I *did* reproduce the WIFI bug, and attached logs to the bug; however, I haven't looked at them yet
[14:46] <mardy> so, we have the bug :-(
[14:51] <k1l_> i would like the browser to have the wipe-down=refresh thingy like chrome does on android
[14:57] <tathhu> <3
[15:14] <dpm> sil2100, I'd like to install silo 22 on a mako to prepare a convergence demo for the UbuCon in Berlin. I've been told I should use the ci-tool, but I should watch out to use the _new_ ci-tool. Do you have any pointers to documentation?
[15:15] <sil2100> dpm: hm, you would have to ask robru|sick, he's the author - I generally don't use those tools
[15:17] <dpm> the nick appears to hint as to he's not up to much pinging today :)
[15:17] <dpm> anyone else who would know?
[15:34] <popey> dpm: maybe kgunn who tests these things frequently?
[15:35] <kgunn> dpm: it's under QA test, so might even land soon...
[15:35] <kgunn> but in advance of that
[15:36] <dpm> kgunn, yeah, trying to get a convergence demo working for the UbuCon on Saturday
[15:36] <dpm> so will go for using the citrain tool
[15:36] <dpm> seems mhall119 used 'citrain device-upgrade 022 0000'
[15:37] <dpm> from ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team
[15:37] <dpm> just finishing reflashing my mako and will try that in a minute
[15:38] <dpm> kgunn, any other tips? From what I'm told looks like dmz-cursor-theme needs to be manually installed to avoid removing unity8
[15:38] <kgunn> dpm: sorry, took me a minute to dig
[15:38] <kgunn> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~robru/phablet-tools/make-useful-again/view/head:/citrain
[15:39] <popey> heh, nice merge name
[15:42] <dpm> ok, wish me luck :)
[15:43] <bee_keeper> Hi, so i go to a scope and swipe up.    Q1. What gives?  Q2. How to delete them?
[15:44] <dpm> bee_keeper, what's "a scope"? I.e. which particular scope are you referring to?
[15:44] <mcphail> bee_keeper: first thing is to be aware that some of the scopes listed serve data to other scopes, and that data will go missing if you remove them
[15:44] <bee_keeper> dpm: well any scope.  For example music, videos, news etc
[15:45] <ogra_> dpm, bee_keeper means the scope manager
[15:45] <ogra_> (bottom swipe)
[15:45] <dpm> oh, I see
[15:45] <bee_keeper> thanks ogra_, no sure of the terminology
[15:45] <mcphail> bee_keeper: If you click the star, they will be added to the main scopes list
[15:46] <dpm> bee_keeper, what you see there are not apps, they are other scopes that can be added as a source of additional content
[15:46] <bee_keeper> dpm: ok makes sense. so i guess i want to say, how can i delete those scopes?
[15:47] <ogra_> as mcphail said, many of tehm are aggreated into other scopes so removing them would break stuff
[15:47] <ogra_> (there is surely a way via cmdline to remove them though, but it might break stuff)
[15:48] <mcphail> bee_keeper: you can unistall from the app store, although I'm never sure whether uninstalling does anthing for the preinstalled scopes/apps
[15:48] <dpm> yeah, I was going to mention something along the lines as well
[15:49] <bee_keeper> so try to do it via the store?  I have the terminal app, am thinking i can maybe just delete them at source?  Is that safe?
[15:49] <dpm> you can search for a particular scope you've got installed and uninstall it from the app store (scroll down the apps scope -the one with the apps grid-)
[15:49] <dpm> the store would be easier and probably safer
[15:50] <ogra_> yeah
[15:50] <dpm> IIRC you can also uninstall the preinstalled ones via the terminal, but you'll have to watch out for not breaking stuff that depends on them
[15:52] <bee_keeper> ok seems to be working, thanks
[15:52] <dpm> cool
[15:55] <bee_keeper> it would be good if you could go to all installed in the ubuntu store and then just delete them all
[15:56]  * ogra_ never felt the need to uninstall them ... and it is the first time i see this asked here i think
[15:57] <ogra_> it isnt like they do anything if you dont activate them
[15:57] <ogra_> (and they will come back with the next update i think)
[15:57] <bee_keeper> ogra_: phone runs a bit slowly and sometimes freezes when displaying the install list.  I don't want app crap that i never use
[15:58] <ogra_> well, its a preinstalled set and it will come back on upgrade (i think)
[15:58] <ogra_> if you see freezes it is surely not related to no-enabled scopes
[15:59] <ogra_> since they are not enabled :)
[15:59] <bee_keeper> They're not enabled but they are installed.  They must be using some system resources however negible
[16:00] <ogra_> they use diskspace in a certain preinstalled area
[16:00] <ogra_> thats all
[16:00] <ogra_> and since they come from the custom tarball they will likely  just re-appear
[16:03] <bee_keeper> i can't beleive they don't annoy you.  it's why i switched to ubuntu-touch to get rid of all this crap
[16:03] <ogra_> why would they annoy me
[16:03] <ogra_> i simply dont enable them and am fine ...
[16:04] <ogra_> it not like there arent tons of other bits that just idle on disk in any linux system if you dont use them
[16:04] <bee_keeper> ogra_: true but you always sudo rm -rf
[16:04] <ogra_> *it's
[16:04] <bee_keeper> what hardware are you running touch on?
[16:05] <ogra_> i have an mx4 and a bq 4.5 here
[16:06] <bee_keeper> ok i am on a bg4.5 as well.  Does it ever freeze?
[16:10] <ogra_> i dont use it that mush anymore since i have the mx4 ... but if i use it, it deosnt freeze, no
[16:10] <rubencaro> Hi folks. Anyone can help me get a dual boot UbuntuTouch/FirefoxOS on my vegetahd?
[16:15] <doko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1509005
[16:16]  * ogra_ points doko to #ubuntu-mir
[16:17] <seb128> doko, #ubuntu-mir
[16:17] <doko> they have the bug report ...
[16:17] <seb128> why do you mention it there then? ;-)
[16:33] <rubencaro> Hi folks. Anyone can help me get a dual boot UbuntuTouch/FirefoxOS on my vegetahd? Any clue?
[16:36] <davmor2> rubencaro: not sure it is possible
[16:37] <rubencaro> davmor2: me neither, hehe, but I thought it's worth a try, does it?
[18:02] <NwS> Heya guys, I read today that the first Ubuntu smartphone with Convergence (what an easy name.. -.-") is close by?
[18:02] <popey> Soon...
[18:03] <NwS> popey, soon should I wait for it or soon should I get a used MX4? :P
[18:03] <popey> mx4 won't be capable of convergence
[18:03] <NwS> But it is a good looking phone damn it :P okie I'll wait then xD tyvm
[18:03] <kgunn> mx4 doesn't have a specific hw module on the chipset needed for external monitor
[18:04] <NwS> Ah okie ty for the info kgunn
[18:06] <popey> kgunn: was that app dump what you needed?
[18:09]  * kgunn sheepishly hasn't check mail
[18:10] <popey> FINE!
[18:11]  * popey flounces off
[18:11] <kgunn> popey: lol... i keep recalling cock...cock....cock-a-doodle-doo
[18:11] <popey> :D
[18:11] <kgunn> popey: so that's awesome...so anything with an X is doesn't have
[18:11] <kgunn> and checkmark is applies ?
[18:11] <popey> ya
[18:12] <popey> well, if it says something in that field, it linked to it
[18:12] <popey> but I only scanned so libs
[18:12] <popey> maybe you also need all other binaries scanned?
[18:12] <kgunn> popey: btw, on a completely seperate topic, what is the best mailing list for app-dev public service announcements ?
[18:12] <popey> phone specific?
[18:13] <kgunn> popey: for the moment yeah...unity8 related
[18:13] <popey> ok
[18:13] <popey> probably ubuntu-phone tbh
[18:13] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-app-devel/ exists but is mostly dead
[18:13] <kgunn> k
[18:13] <kgunn> related to this bug
[18:13] <kgunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1502145
[18:14] <kgunn> it's been fixed for the browser, but any old app can use the aa cap of "keep-display-on"
[18:14] <kgunn> was rolled out a little early w/o arch considerations, and so apps can hold screen on in background
[18:14] <kgunn> so bascially just need to consider pulling their lock on the screen-on when they lose focus
[18:15] <popey> ahh
[18:15] <popey> makes sense
[18:16] <kgunn> sweet!!! all the apps in the list are linked against libmirclient9
[18:16] <kgunn> so up to date
[18:16] <kgunn> and guarded from abi breaks going fwd
[18:28] <kgunn> popey: hmm, so the original bug for mirclient use came from this app "glmark2.sturmflut" but i notice it shows not linked against mir...
[18:28] <kgunn> so is that what you meant by scanning all the bins ?
[18:28] <kgunn> maybe some are hidden
[18:28] <popey> yeah
[18:29] <popey> I'll re-run it, scanning _anything_ looking remotely binary :)
[18:33] <davmor2> popey: if we sit down we look a bit like a 0 and standing up a bit like a 1 does that count as looking remotely binary?
[18:55] <kgunn> brendand: we looking hopeful with silo 22 ?
[21:15] <ahoneybun> let's stop using the Galaxy Nexus in ads please
[21:55] <mariogrip> so, there will be an ubucon next year :D
[23:11] <Dragonkeeper> hey guys
[23:12] <Dragonkeeper> does mhl work with krillin device ?
[23:36] <cuttlas> Hello! Weather core-app has been updated but seems don't works fine yet :(
[23:36] <cuttlas> 1)some time lost connection(Network Error) 2)location detection has been failed


[01:59] <smartboyhw> Hello Noskcaj
[01:59] <smartboyhw> Good morning ypwong
[02:00] <ypwong> smartboyhw, morning :)
[02:00] <smartboyhw> Heh, then he left
[02:00] <smartboyhw> And came back:P
[02:01] <smartboyhw> balloons: Oakland still?
[02:01] <ypwong> smartboyhw, my client crashed
[02:01] <smartboyhw> ypwong: :(
[02:17] <smartboyhw> Good morning SergioMeneses
[02:17] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, good evening here
[02:17] <SergioMeneses> :D
[02:18] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: :)
[04:05] <balloons> good night all, smartboyhw
[04:09] <SergioMeneses> balloons, hey you
[04:10] <SergioMeneses> it is rare to see you
[04:52] <smartboyhw> balloons: gn
[05:52] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, hello
[06:03] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, hey
[06:03] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, hello
[06:03] <Noskcaj> do you have a raring or saucy iso that isn't kubuntu?
[06:04] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I'm at mobile…
[06:04] <Noskcaj> sigh
[06:07] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: What's the problem?
[06:08] <Noskcaj> a minor bug to do with sydney no longer existing
[06:08] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Heh
[06:08] <smartboyhw> Fixed maybe?
[06:08] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Just download an Ubuntu one…
[06:08] <smartboyhw> Or Ubuntu GNOME or UbuntuKylin
[06:09] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, kubuntu: bug 1066223 everything else: bug 1172015
[06:10] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: You seriously can't download another image?
[06:10] <Noskcaj> ? i've reported both of those
[06:12] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Yeah sure the Kubuntu image now doesn't have that bug
[06:12] <smartboyhw> You want to see if others have it
[06:12] <smartboyhw> So you should download another image…
[06:13] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, only kubuntu has the first bug, it happens in todays ISO
[06:14] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Now wait a minute. You mean that other images don't have that bug while Kubuntu has?
[06:15] <Noskcaj> yep
[06:15] <Noskcaj> and kubuntu is the only image without the second bug
[06:15] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Heh
[10:12] <cortexA9> hello
[10:13] <Noskcaj> hello
[10:13] <Noskcaj> wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
[10:13] <Noskcaj> wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre
[10:13] <smartboyhw> Hello cortexA9
[10:13] <cortexA9> only ubuntu
[10:13] <cortexA9> or other derivated ?
[10:14] <cortexA9> here ?
[10:14] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: It isn't necessary to throw out links at once:p tutor them first
[10:14] <cortexA9> i like to test iso
[10:14] <smartboyhw> cortexA89
[10:14] <smartboyhw> All are welcome
[10:14] <cortexA9> ok
[10:14] <smartboyhw> Every flavour
[10:14] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, i was already talking to him
[10:15] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Meh
[10:15] <smartboyhw> Tell me earlier:P
[10:15] <cortexA9> i'm not new to the daily
[10:15] <cortexA9> testing
[10:16] <Noskcaj> cortexA9,  good. have you been putting results on the iso tracker?
[10:16] <cortexA9> oh no..
[10:16] <cortexA9> tell me
[10:16] <cortexA9> i'm interested
[10:17] <Noskcaj> iso.qa.ubuntu.com put all your results there. and file any bugs you come across
[10:17] <Noskcaj> i have to go now, hopefully smartboyhw can help you
[10:17] <cortexA9> thanks
[10:17] <cortexA9> oh yes
[10:17] <cortexA9> i see that site before
[10:17] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Erm, you said that you aren't new to daily testing.
[10:18] <smartboyhw> How do you do it then?
[10:18] <cortexA9> only testing..
[10:18] <cortexA9> isos in the past
[10:18] <cortexA9> :)
[10:18] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Oh.
[10:18] <smartboyhw> Here's how it works:
[10:19] <cortexA9> tell me more please
[10:19] <smartboyhw> You download an daily image from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Which flavour do you want to test?
[10:19] <smartboyhw> Seems like you like deriative testing more:)
[10:19] <cortexA9> yes
[10:19] <cortexA9> i like kubuntu too
[10:20] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Great!
[10:20] <smartboyhw> For Kubuntu, download a daily in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/
[10:21] <smartboyhw> Actully http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ is better
[10:21] <cortexA9> what about
[10:21] <cortexA9> my cpu
[10:22] <cortexA9> i select always 64 bit
[10:22] <cortexA9> for my i7
[10:22] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Whoa I only have an i5. 64-bit is good enough
[10:23] <cortexA9> ok downloading kubuntu daily right now
[10:23] <smartboyhw> cortexA9, BTW, time to check out iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[10:24] <smartboyhw> Do you have a Launchpad account?
[10:25] <cortexA9> smartboyhw no atm.
[10:26] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: You need to
[10:26] <smartboyhw> Go to launchpad.net/+login
[10:26] <smartboyhw> and register
[10:28] <cortexA9> yes
[10:28] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: After you completed the registration tell me
[10:29] <cortexA9> smartboyhw completed
[10:36] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Good. Login iso.qa.ubuntu.com using Launchpad credentials
[10:37] <cortexA9> smartboyhw ok i'm logged in
[10:38] <cortexA9> smartboyhw i testing kubuntu 64 right now
[10:40] <smartboyhw> cortexA9: Follow the testcases in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds/43403/testcases
[19:49] <Noskcaj> does anyone online have a raring or saucy ISO?
[19:49] <Noskcaj> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1172015 needs confirming
[19:53] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, I can do it, let me check
[19:54] <Noskcaj> thanks, once someone confirms this, i will have reason to think one of the devs hates sydney
[19:55] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, jajajaja
[19:55] <SergioMeneses> I'm going to try saucy
[19:55] <Noskcaj> ok, ty
[20:03] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, check it now
[20:03] <SergioMeneses> the point is in a different position, I guess
[20:04] <SergioMeneses> I added an screenshot
[20:04] <Noskcaj> SergioMeneses, it shows up at canberra in my xubuntu saucy. i'll check ubuntu. but either way, that's not sydney
[20:05] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, it's confirmed!
[20:05] <Noskcaj> :)


[09:31] <ochosi> merry christmas everyone!
[09:32] <ochosi> sorry i was a little unresponsive lately, the time before christmas turned out to be extremely busy at work...
[14:32] <knome> ochosi, did you see the mail from lyz?
[15:48] <pleia2> ochosi: yeah, just need a few questions answered by you and then we can publish the xubuntu council announcement blog post, finally :)


[01:33] <chute> Hello all - trying to install pangolin, but the installer crashes once in enters the localisation phase - any suggestions?
[01:36] <chute> The live-version works perfectly though - it is when installing that I encounter the problem
[01:44] <chute> any suggestions on what channel I could find the developpers of the Ubuntu installer - or the name of the graphical installer?
[01:48] <ms_daisy> hello. I'm trying to make a symbolic link so that I can run my virtualbox machines as root (I know, terrible Idea. I'm doing it anyway).
[01:48] <ms_daisy> sudo ln -s ~/VirtualBox\ VMs /root/VirtualBox\ VMs
[01:49] <ms_daisy> That's what I did, but when I cd / and then ls -a I don't see it.
[01:51] <ms_daisy> nvm. Turns out I'm just dumb.
[02:28] <chute> thanks for reading me - chute out


[19:31] <maco> so, remember how I decided I was going to have an Ubuntu Women table at Southeast LinuxFest?
[19:31] <maco> turns out that due to the death of the South Carolina LoCo, there wasn't a just plain Ubuntu table there at all
[19:34] <pleia2> oops :(
[19:34] <maco> last year there was an Ubuntu table. not that there was an active LoCo then either, but someone from 2 states away (itnet7) had come up to run the Ubuntu table and try to inspire the rebirth of the LoCo
[19:36] <pleia2> someone from SC was in #ubuntu-us recently mentioning that they couldn't wake anyone up, I just suggested they plan something small and see how it goes, if not use the list of things individuals can do
[19:36] <pleia2> I completely forgot about self
[19:36] <pleia2> (but this was on monday anyway)
[19:37] <maco> jbicha said he applied to the team on LP 2 months ago and hasnt been approved yet. the team admins are asleep at the wheel
[19:38] <maco> i told him the CC could change team adminship if current people are MIA. LC person who was there (also itnet7 i guess? i forget) said LC can too
[19:38] <pleia2> LC is the appropriate group (CC will just delegate to them)
[19:41] <maco> i was thinking of the time the CC handed over UW
[19:50] <nigelb> Oh, maco with people being not able to join the team, it could be the LP bug which was fixed.
[19:50] <nigelb> I nudged our admins to fix the team membership manually.
[19:51] <nigelb> There was a bug that caused team membership policy to be inherited  by the subteams
[19:51] <nigelb> well, yeah, they'll get a mail, and they probably get a mail.