[16:29] <Habbie> noobquestion, with sudo, of course, without, depends on how permissions are set
[16:29] <noobquestion> Habbie: do you mean how permissions are set ... on the backup drive?
[16:30] <OerHeks> noobquestion, permissions on ext3/4 can be altered, on fat32/ntfs no worry
[16:30] <Habbie> noobquestion, yes, and how the copy has set them
[16:30] <llwalahoop> Habbie: Ok. I was curious to find out how to find broken packages, as apt-get informs me there are those. And how to fix them. Or if they are not necessary, how to get rid of them.
[16:31] <nomic> z.
[16:31] <Habbie> llwalahoop, did you try apt-get install on that broken package as i suggested?
[16:31] <OerHeks> llwalahoop, if yu have broken packages, linux gives a clue howto fix with -f
[16:31] <noobquestion> OerHeks: hmm i did format the new backup drive to be ext4... maybe i should have done it to be fat32/ntfs?
[16:31] <OerHeks> noobquestion, whatever you like
[16:32] <Habbie> noobquestion, if you want to be able to read it outside of linux, fat32 or ntfs may make sense
[16:32] <noobquestion> OerHeks: cool, thanks. also is it ok to copy files off of the HDD even with the bad sectors present?
[16:32] <noobquestion> Habbie: ah that makes sense, thanks
[16:35] <noobquestion> is it possible to sudo into the failing HDD's credentials from the liveCD/bootable usb stick?
[16:35] <craptalk> i am using lubuntu 16.04, and my screen start flickering, also using xorg nvidia graphic driver, how can i fix this problem?
[16:35] <craptalk> it doesnt appear so in ubuntu mate at previous release
[16:36] <craptalk> #windows10
[16:36] <Habbie> noobquestion, just sudo, you will be root, and you will be able to read the HDD
[16:36] <llwalahoop> Habbie: I'm sorry I must have missed that message. Yes, I tried that, and this is what happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16565981/
[16:37] <Habbie> llwalahoop, well add those to the line
[16:37] <Habbie> llwalahoop, but, there is something wrong with your system, please audit your apt-get config and sources.list files to see if you did anything weird
[16:38] <noobquestion> Habbie: yup that's what i'm doing now but i'm thinking about later when i'm booted from a new HDD with new credentials then i'll need sudo to read any of the files on the backup drive (since it's copied as the liveCD's root)... unless i'm misunderstanding this concept
[16:38] <Habbie> noobquestion, yes, probably true
[16:39] <llwalahoop> OerHeks: I ask you to be a little more specific with 'how to fix with -f', for I'm quite new with these things.
[16:39] <noobquestion> Habbie: oh shoot lol, is there anything i can do to prevent that?  i want to copy personal settings files too... unless i have to boot with failing HDD to copy files out?
[16:39] <Habbie> noobquestion, why do you want to prevent that? you're copying to your HDD now, then later you will copy back to your new system or whatever, fix the permissions, done
[16:40] <craptalk> i want to create bootable windows usb on linux, i was using terminal and disk creator default by linux, still i cant make it work, please help?
[16:40] <noobquestion> Habbie: "fix the permissions" how exactly does that work? isn't that unsafe if anyone can copy stuff from other people's HDD and then just "fix permissions" to read the files?
[16:40] <baizon> craptalk: https://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-using-ubuntu
[16:41] <BluesKaj> craptalk, don't think that's possible ...yet
[16:41] <baizon> noobquestion: ofc it is unsave, but else if you lose your linux accout you would lose all files
[16:42] <baizon> noobquestion: for that you have encryption
[16:42] <noobquestion> baizon: lol that makes sense now
[16:42] <noobquestion> baizon: so what do i do to "fix permission" once i'm on the new HDD?
[16:43] <baizon> noobquestion: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/chown.1.html
[16:44] <baizon> noobquestion: you can do that recursively on a folder and change the permissions
[16:44] <llwalahoop> Habbie: Ok. Many thanks to you. It is clear that I have a lot of practicing to do. I believe that trying to compile keepassx lead to problems in dependencies: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16566296/
[16:45] <Habbie> llwalahoop, there is definitely something wrong with your sources.list files
[16:45] <noobquestion> baizon: that's super helpful, i can start copying files over now and have enough to read, thanks!
[16:45] <llwalahoop> Habbie: I think I'll look into this later on. The problem seems bigger than I thought.
[16:45] <noobquestion> baizon: it's probably too late to run like `chckdisk` on the old HDD right?
[16:45] <baizon> noobquestion: no problem, wish you a nice day
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> !fsck | noobquestion
[16:45] <baizon> noobquestion: i dont know whats your problem
[16:46] <Archeus_> hey
[16:47] <Archeus_> does anyone know about installing game through wine ?
[16:47] <llwalahoop> Habbie: Could you look at my sources.list? What would be the easiest way to show it?
[16:47] <noobquestion> baizon: i got input/output error when trying to log in a few days ago and from interwebs it says it's probably HDD failing(since i was stupid not to do backups before i'm now trying to get my files out of the failing HDD) from the GUI program `disks` it says there are 10504 bad sectors...
[16:47] <baizon> Archeus_: well its windows like so no problem i guess, just click on the exe?
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Archeus_ it's easier if you ask your real question, if anyone has an answer they'll likely respond.
[16:47] <Archeus_> well some error appears
[16:47] <Archeus_> like the following
[16:48] <Datz> Hi, I've installed phpmyadmin, and after I was getting a error when at the web interface complaining that mbstring wasn't available, I've installed mbstring, but now I'm getting a server error (500) can anyone help?
[16:48] <baizon> noobquestion: backup your data? if it reports bad sectors that data is lost, but you can copy the rest
[16:49] <Archeus_> An internal system error occurred . Please refer to DXError.log and DirextX.log in your windows folder to determine the problem
[16:49] <SchrodingersScat> !wine
[16:49] <noobquestion> baizon: thanks for the help!
[16:49] <SchrodingersScat> Archeus_: ^ #winehq might be able to give you more specific help about those logs.
[16:50] <baizon> Archeus_: +1 what SchrodingersScat wrote
[16:50] <Archeus_> wht ?
[16:50] <Archeus_> oh
[16:50] <Archeus_> im going there then
[16:50] <Archeus_> btw r ppl online there ?
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> no idea, I try to avoid wine
[16:51] <pathworker> question re ubuntu 16.4(64 bit edition, , is there a known issue with getting wireles coonectivity on a Lenovo c260 all in one(tryig the distro in live mode prior to a full install).
[16:51] <SynDM>  hi guys, i need some help. I'm tryin to make a bootable usb stick with multiple Isos
[16:51] <Archeus_> k
[16:51] <baizon> SynDM: is that even possible?
[16:52] <uruk> how to save session ubuntu 15.10 unity?
[16:52] <SchrodingersScat> baizon: yes, there's software that will load multiple iso's, and so likely a manual way with grub too.
[16:52] <baizon> SynDM: yes it is
[16:52] <SynDM> Actually yes, there are tons of programs that allow u to do that, but none of them uses GPT partition table, so it's impossible to recognize it in a uefi laptop =/
[16:53] <baizon> SynDM: well that is thanks to microsoft
[16:54] <baizon> uruk: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-save-and-restore-unity-session.html
[16:54] <SynDM> baizon: yep i know, but actually i don't want to wipe windows from my laptop, so i need to do something that support uefi
[16:54] <cj32875> siemaneczko
[16:55] <baizon> !pl | cj32875
[16:55] <Archeus_> #winehq
[16:55] <nulv> win 10 have a bootloader too
[16:56] <pathworker> also on some machines(but not all) secureboot can be disabled if needs be.
[16:56] <uruk> baizon i see , this is dependable
[17:03] <Leagnus> hi! I'm novice. Does someone have OpenBox here?
[17:03] <Leagnus> Can I start obmenu not just by RMC on desktop,
[17:03] <Leagnus> but by a shortcut while a window has focus?
[17:17] <oushkul> Hi
[17:17] <oushkul> anyone help with a loggin in issue???
[17:20] <lerner> how do I extract an iso file?
[17:20] <Quatroking> I have a couple of folders with videogame roms, some ending with (USA) and some with (Japan), how can I rename all the files ending with (Japan) to end with (JP) instead?
[17:20] <Quatroking> each folder has 100+ files
[17:20] <oushkul> Can anyone help with an issue I've got logging into Xubuntu?
[17:21] <SwedeMike> Quatroking: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1136/batch-renaming-files might help
[17:21] <xangua> lerner: why you wanna extract an iso file?
[17:22] <lerner> xangua, to see its files
[17:22] <Quatroking> SwedeMike, I actually already had that page open, I'm having a hard time understanding the syntax though
[17:22] <xangua> ...
[17:22] <nulv> boot to windows, open it via winrar ahaha
[17:22] <tgm4883> nulv: unnecessary
[17:22] <tgm4883> lerner: mount it with the archive mounter
[17:23] <temmi_hoo> quatroking, SwedeMike: 4dos had the batch renaming thing pretty nice back in the 1980s
[17:23] <tgm4883> lerner: Right click the iso, open with archive mounter
[17:24] <Quatroking> oooh, apparently Thunar has a bulk rename util
[17:25] <oushkul> Can anyone help with an issue I've got logging into Xubuntu?
[17:25] <Quatroking> SwedeMike, temmi_hoo, http://i.imgur.com/0iQiVsa.png
[17:25] <Quatroking> :D
[17:25] <tgm4883> oushkul: a few things
[17:26] <tgm4883> !help | oushkul
[17:26] <tgm4883> !patience | oushkul
[17:26] <SchrodingersScat> Quatroking: rename doesn't seem to have a recursion feature, but rename 's/\(Japan\)/\(JP\)/g' *   might work
[17:27] <Quatroking> that's a whole lot more readable
[17:27] <Quatroking> search for (Japan), replace for (JP), what does the g stand for?
[17:28] <temmi_hoo> dunno about that, i'm used to firing up ls -1 > filename and then editing from that filename a script that says mv x y on every line and just doing the filename editing by hand
[17:28] <Twirl> Hello, my wired connection keeps dropping, all the time and I don't know why, it works fine in windows
[17:28] <Twirl> what's going on?
[17:28] <temmi_hoo> Quatroking: g as the modifier at end of regular expression makes the regex engine reapply the same regex for all the matches on the line instead of just the first one
[17:29] <Quatroking> oh right, regex
[17:29] <oushkul> Thanks for feedback TGM
[17:29] <temmi_hoo> regexen <3
[17:29] <Quatroking> been a while since I've written regex stuff
[17:38] <Twirl> anyone has a clue why I can't use wired connection on my laptop? it works on windows dual booting
[17:39] <baizon> Twirl: i guess you have to configure it then
[17:39] <Twirl> something i can try or something?
[17:39] <Twirl> configure it how?
[17:40] <baizon> Twirl: check your router configuration or your windows configuration and then apply it on ubuntu
[17:40] <Twirl> there is no configuration
[17:40] <Twirl> i plugged it in and it works
[17:41] <Twirl> 100% fine
[17:42] <baizon> Twirl: so you didnt had to configure anything on your windows machine when you connected?
[17:42] <baizon> Twirl: you got an ip address from your DHCP?
[17:43] <Twirl> i don't know man it's windows 7 it literally works just plugging the cable 100% fine
[17:43] <baizon> Twirl: also take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[17:43] <tgm4883> Twirl: what laptop
[17:43] <Twirl> here it "works" for 3 seconds and drops
[17:43] <Twirl> as in, literally can't use it
[17:44] <tgm4883> Twirl: sounds like driver issues
[17:44] <baizon> Twirl: what is syslog reporting?
[17:44] <Twirl> idk, maybe it's ipv6 avant-garde issues
[17:45] <baizon> Twirl: well then try disabling ipv6
[17:45] <Twirl> alright, to try that i should probably close pidgin since it's going to drop 300 times per sec
[17:52] <CoolKevin> thank you for suggesting hexchat, I am more used to this software
[17:56] <Twirl> well, it didn't work at all, not only that, tried all the commands in the https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html link, and nothing worked
[17:56] <Twirl> why does it have to be so retarded
[17:56] <Twirl> adapter is: product: AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet, vendor: Qualcomm Atheros
[17:58] <Twirl> what do i have to do? write the drivers myself?
[17:59] <tgm4883> Twirl: Try this  "In Network manager, set the ethernet connection's MTU value from automatic to 8192"
[17:59] <Twirl> alright let's try it
[18:02] <Twirl> Connecting..................................... you are now offline.  In the installation, it only offers to install in /dev/sda which is the usb drive, I can't find a way to erase completely the hard disk and install. Am I missing something ?
[18:04] <tgm4883> arussel: If you fire up disks, does it see the other drive?
[18:05] <arussel> df doesn't
[18:05] <tgm4883> arussel: that's not what I asked...
[18:05] <Twirl> seriously this is so retarded man, i hate when things don't work like this, specially the freaking ethernet adapter, it's not some weird hardware
[18:05] <Habbie> arussel, what kind of disk is it?
[18:05] <Twirl> how am i supposed to use my computer without freaking internet
[18:05] <tgm4883> arussel: fire up the "Disks" utility (or gparted, or fdisk
[18:05] <Habbie> Twirl, i suggest some more swearing, i'm sure that will help ;)
[18:06] <tgm4883> Twirl: ranting here isn't going to get you anywhere
[18:06] <baizon> Twirl: what does the syslog say?
[18:06] <CoolKevin> Twirl,  I just had the same problem
[18:07] <arussel> no, Disks only see the thumb drive
[18:07] <CoolKevin> what I down was to do a clean install with ubuntu, and no duel boot
[18:08] <CoolKevin> done*
[18:08] <Twirl> http://pastebin.com/raw/yQyDPqCZ
[18:08] <Twirl> baizon: ^
[18:09] <Twirl> CoolKevin: a clean install with no dual boot? that sounds like a real joke buddy
[18:09] <Twirl> CoolKevin: sorry but that is not an option, might as well buy a new computer, right?
[18:10] <baizon> Twirl: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2280579
[18:10] <CoolKevin> I do not know if we had the same problem
[18:11] <arussel> Habbie: MOD,SSDR,1TB,NVME,SMSNG,PM951
[18:11] <wgwz> trying to install win 7. having some issues. anyone got exp with that?
[18:11] <baizon> Twirl: if not try this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168029
[18:11] <CoolKevin> but I did have a new hard drive, I loaded win 7 and then ubuntu 16.4
[18:11] <baizon> wgwz: this is the ubuntu support channel, not windows
[18:11] <Twirl> already tried turning off ipv6
[18:12] <wgwz> well its on a box that has #ubuntu installed.. if it makes a difference
[18:12] <ducasse> wgwz: not really.
[18:12] <Twirl> i don't even have systemctl
[18:12] <wgwz> fair enough.
[18:12] <CoolKevin> no internet connection. the win7 install disc, never had any drivers, so I done a clean intall of 16.4
[18:13] <BluesKaj> arussel, usually /dev/sda is the HDD not the usb, are you sure?
[18:13] <baizon> Twirl: which ubuntu version are you using?
[18:14] <Twirl> dhcpcd.service ? i don't have that service
[18:14] <arussel> found this: The PCIe hard drive won't be recognized by live Ubuntu 15.10 by default. Change RAID to AHCI. When it works it will appear as /dev/nvme0n1.
[18:14] <Twirl> baizon: linux mint actually
[18:14] <baizon> Twirl: well then im out
[18:15] <tgm4883> Twirl: that's not supported here...
[18:15] <Twirl> what it's not supported? its exactly the same but with cinnamon
[18:15] <tgm4883> Twirl: no, it's not
[18:15] <Twirl> seriously
[18:15] <tgm4883> !mint
[18:15] <Twirl> yes it is
[18:15] <Twirl> i know what linux mint is
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Twirl, face facts you get mint support here
[18:16] <BluesKaj> won't
[18:16] <Twirl> i'm not asking for mint support here i'm asking for ubuntu support
[18:16] <tgm4883> Twirl: I'd try a live disk of 16.04 with the MTU change if it's still causing issues
[18:16] <Habbie> arussel, oh nvme? that might be a driver issue
[18:17] <tgm4883> Twirl: no, you're asking for mint support. Only Ubuntu and Ubuntu flavors are supported here. So I'd do the live disk test
[18:17] <BluesKaj> why not ask in mint , what's so difficult about that, Twirl?
[18:17] <Habbie> BluesKaj, if his drive is nvme it should show up as /dev/nvme0 which means sda for the usb makes sense
[18:18] <Twirl> tgm4883: no im not asking for mint support, stop telling me what i'm doing. i know exactly what i'm doing.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> Habbie, yeah i saw that
[18:18] <arussel> Habbie, BluesKaj : yeah, that was it, switching to AHCI made the HD available and I can install now
[18:18] <tgm4883> Twirl: Do you have Ubuntu installed?
[18:18] <Habbie> arussel, oh excellent
[18:18] <Twirl> tgm4883: yes I do, and now you are ignored. thanks for your help btw.
[18:18] <Habbie> arussel, after install you may want to check if AHCI limits performance in some way and figure out the driver issue after all
[18:18] <tgm4883> wow
[18:19] <tgm4883> what a twat
[18:19] <Habbie> arussel, (i have no idea if it would)
[18:19] <ducasse> Twirl: you just said you were using mint. mint is not ubuntu, whatever you think.
[18:19] <baizon> tgm4883: please no swearing
[18:19] <arussel> yes, will do
[18:19] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, twit is a better word
[18:20] <tgm4883> I like how even after he said he was using mint, I was the only one that offered a suggestion where he could actually get support. Yet I'm the one that gets ignored
[18:20] <tgm4883> baizon: that's not a swear word...
[18:20] <mrFake> asdas
[18:20] <firman> i am watching video from ntfs disk partition, then the whole system freeze, nothing responding, no keyboard, no mouse, how to figure out the trouble?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, I told him where to go as well
[18:20] <Habbie> tgm4883, it doesn't cost anything to not use words that other people don't like
[18:21] <tgm4883> baizon: I mean, I get it. It's not family friendly and I'll likely refrain from it in the future. But it's not swearing
[18:21] <Habbie> firman, does it happen every time? can you test from non-ntfs?
[18:21] <Habbie> tgm4883, yes... yes it is
[18:23] <tgm4883> Habbie: we'll just have to agree to disagree
[18:23] <AliveGh0st> 有中国的么
[18:24] <AliveGh0st> 有中国的么。。。
[18:24] <firman> Habbie : not every time but frequently, and often, i was experience this freeze on willy more often, xenial is better, but trouble is not resolved yet
[18:25] <AliveGh0st> who is java developer
[18:25] <baizon> !root | AliveGh0st
[18:25] <baizon> AliveGh0st: i am
[18:26] <firman> Habbie: i haven't much space in ext4 so all my media is in "D:" windows partition
[18:26] <AliveGh0st> armv7l  Ubuntu   how to chose jdk
[18:27] <baizon> AliveGh0st: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/embedded-se/downloads/index.html
[18:28] <Habbie> firman, can you stick -one- movie on ext4? at a time?
[18:28] <OerHeks> AliveGh0st, sudo apt-get install openjdk-8 # for arm too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8/8u77-b03-3ubuntu3
[18:28] <AliveGh0st> jdk1.8 armv6/v7 32bit can't use
[18:28] <AliveGh0st> thank
[18:29] <firman> Habbie: yes, i can and thx for advice :)
[18:30] <Habbie> firman, it's just a suggestion, if you do that a few times and it's stable, then you can reasonable assume ntfs is a factor
[18:30] <Habbie> firman, if it doesn't help, you can consider other factors
[18:31] <firman> yeah, i understand what you mean, may be any other factor for freeze like that? Habbie
[18:31] <Habbie> firman, maybe decoding video for a long time heats up your CPU or GPU too much
[18:31] <Habbie> firman, or maybe there's a bug in a video driver
[18:32] <OerHeks> firman, what videocard?
[18:32] <OerHeks> that might explain
[18:32] <firman> OerHeks: Intel HD Graphic
[18:33] <OerHeks> firman, what generation? lspci | grep VGA # would tell
[18:33] <OerHeks> if it is gen2, i don't wonder
[18:34] <firman> OerHeks: i have no idea about that, how to figure out?
[18:34] <OerHeks> systemsettings > details
[18:34] <OerHeks> or that lspci line
[18:36] <firman> hello OerHeks, sorry
[18:36] <OerHeks> firman, lspci | grep VGA
[18:37] <firman> OerHeks: i have no idea about that, how to figure out?
[18:37] <OerHeks> it is just a terminal command
[18:39] <firman> i got output like this "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display (rev 0c)" OerHeks
[18:39] <M-DarthShader> Hey guys. How do I switch my display manager? After "sudo apt-get install lightdm" and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm", I get thrown into a full-screen tty1 command line on boot.
[18:39] <M-DarthShader> ctrl-alt-f7 gives me a black screen.
[18:40] <Ben64> have you tried sudo service lightdm start
[18:41] <M-DarthShader> "job for lightdm.service failed because the control process exited with error code"
[18:42] <AliveGh0st> cant
[18:43] <AliveGh0st> ubottu  19:25 < ubottu> AliveGh0st: Do not try to guess the root password,                  that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth...                   there is no root password. Then you will see that
[18:44] <AliveGh0st> what?
[18:44] <AliveGh0st> ubottu is a bot?
[18:45] <AliveGh0st> ..?
[18:46] <OerHeks> firman, i find a lot of bugreports, linux-wde, with freeze issues on 4.2/4.4 kernel
[18:46] <AliveGh0st> ubottu is a bot?
[18:46] <Ben64> yes, stop asking
[18:47] <OerHeks> something about c-state not correctly used, "intel_idle.max_cstate=1" could be a helping bootoption
[18:48] <AliveGh0st> because My nick name?AliveGh0st?
[18:49] <OerHeks> oh that atom is baytrail
[18:51] <newb000l> How do I make a bootable iso to use in qemu from a partition? dd if=/dev/sda4 of=disk.img, the what?
[18:51] <firman> OerHeks: yes i found it too, in askubuntu.com, ubuntuforum and others
[18:51] <esiodos> hello
[18:53] <esiodos> hi
[18:53] <tgm4883> baytrail, yuck
[18:53] <OerHeks> Yeah, you have to wait for intel to return
[18:54] <newb000l> esiodos: hello
[18:54] <OerHeks> else that cstate option can help, but your cpu gets warmer.
[18:54] <esiodos> hello newb0001
[18:55] <M-DarthShader> I think my X is broken - $DISPLAY doesn't return anything, and login screens fail to start.
[18:55] <M-DarthShader> How do I debug this?
[18:56] <ducasse> M-DarthShader: look at the x.org and lightdm  logs.
[18:57] <M-DarthShader> lightdm logs just say that it failed to start. I just had (some) success with "startx" - it launches a desktop environment
[18:58] <M-DarthShader> (it meaning lightdm)
[18:59] <ducasse> so x is fine, lightdm is not. look closer at the lightdm logs, you can usually find the reason why it doesn't start there.
[19:00] <ioria> M-DarthShader, ubuntu 16.04  ?
[19:00] <M-DarthShader> ioria - yep
[19:01] <ioria> M-DarthShader, fresh install ?
[19:01] <M-DarthShader> *kubuntu 16.04, sorry
[19:01] <ioria> not lightdm then
[19:01] <M-DarthShader> ioria - looks like things magically started working after that "startx" moment
[19:02] <ioria> good
[19:02] <scalper> hey
[19:02] <scalper> i'm looking for a utility like https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/indicator-cpufreq/ to adjust CPU frequency scaling, how can i know which one is the most populair?
[19:02] <M-DarthShader> I had lightdm installed because at first I thought it was sddm's (KDE login manager)'s fault
[19:02] <ioria> but kubu does not use lightdm iirc
[19:02] <ioria> ah, ok
[19:03] <M-DarthShader> By the way, thanks all for the help!
[19:03] <ioria> np
[19:03] <xangua> scalper: if you just unity just install it, and disable ubuntu frequency settings
[19:05] <esiodos> hello
[19:06] <newb000l> I have seen a bunch of answers that say to create an iso, just do, dd if=/dev/sda1 of=disk.iso. Is this correct? This isn't an iso, is it?
[19:06] <ducasse> newb000l: no, that would not make an iso.
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> newb000l: no, i would think that's just a raw disk image, it's not a thing I would expect to be burned to a disk correctly at all
[19:07] <intok> Just did the upgrade to 16.04, still seeing the 15.10 sources in the list and getting an error trying to update, here's both http://pastebin.com/ECBJdQTu
[19:07] <newb000l> ducasse, How would I make an iso from that image?
[19:07] <ducasse> newb000l: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+create+bootable+iso+from+partition&t=canonical&ia=web
[19:08] <ioria> intok, can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:10] <ioria> !info tzdata-java
[19:10] <ioria> that pkg no longer be in xenial
[19:15] <intok> ioria http://pastebin.com/H2Eq4SRJ
[19:16] <ioria> intok,  /etc/apt/sources.list   not grep, please
[19:18] <esiodos> hello is this the ubuntu's channel?
[19:19] <ioria> !topic | esiodos
[19:20] <ddybing> csudo apt-get
[19:25] <DarkBlueShark> hello
[19:25] <DarkBlueShark> Any ideas how to disable ipv6 for all interfaces permanently across reboots? Tried adding "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf but one interface is still having an inet6 address
[19:32] <curlyears> greets
[19:34] <theseb> how allow killing of terminals without confirmation popups in 16.04?
[19:35] <theseb> old param is missing from gconf-editor to handle
[19:37] <brunch875> alt-f2, xkill, click on terminal
[19:37] <brunch875> is that what you mean?
[19:38] <bekks> theseb: type exit in the terminal.
[19:39] <brunch875> if you want to exit normally you can just hit ctrl-D without anything written on it
[19:39] <brunch875> ctrl-c first to cancel whatever is on
[19:41] <theseb> brunch875: thanks..sorry..i was unclear...
[19:41] <theseb> brunch875: i typically kill windows by clicking on X in corner with mouse
[19:41] <theseb> brunch875: that makes a confirmation popup appear if a process is running
[19:42] <theseb> brunch875: anyway to avoid THAT?
[19:42] <theseb> the popup?
[19:42] <theseb> brunch875: s/windows/terminals
[19:42] <brunch875> The popup never happens to me...
[19:42] <ioria> theseb, why do you have a process running ?
[19:42] <theseb> brunch875: you need to be running a process or drop into root user
[19:42] <theseb> ioria: just doing su - and becoming root causes the popup
[19:43] <ioria> theseb, don't do su - , this is my advice
[19:43] <theseb> ioria: what should i do instead?
[19:43] <brunch875> well, su ~is~ a process
[19:43] <ioria> theseb, sudo
[19:43] <brunch875> why not use sudo instead?
[19:44] <theseb> ioria, brunch875: running top in terminal causes same popup so it isn't just a su issue
[19:44] <ioria> theseb, close with 'q'
[19:44] <brunch875> it's a good habit to close the programs normally
[19:44] <brunch875> instead of killing them
[19:44] <theseb> ioria, brunch875: i can't be only one that leaves crud running in terminals....surely i'm not only one that just wants to kill terminals with the mouse?
[19:45] <ioria> theseb, "it's a good habit to close the programs normally"
[19:45] <theseb> ioria: why?
[19:45] <theseb> ioria: i've been doing this for years w/o any problems
[19:46] <ioria> theseb, a process has it's cycle, start, do a job and close
[19:46] <brunch875> killing a process... kills it
[19:46] <theseb> ioria: some like top run forever
[19:46] <bekks> brunch875: Depends.
[19:46] <ioria> theseb, every process has its exit
[19:47] <theseb> ioria: ok fair enough
[19:47] <theseb> ioria: but it takes a few more nanoseconds to close it properly and THEN kill window with mouse! ;)
[19:47] <brunch875> you can hit control-c followed by control-d
[19:47] <brunch875> that's much faster than mouse
[19:48] <brunch875> (note that I'm suggesting this instead of the solution you want because I don't know the solution)
[19:49] <brunch875> you can also alt-f4 to close the terminal and then hit enter, but I strongly discourage this
[19:49] <theseb> brunch875: that might work...do you switch between terminals w/o mouse? if i did that i could do C-c C-d'
[19:49] <bekks> Why not using exit to exit the terminal? :)
[19:49] <theseb> brunch875: maybe i should wean myself off the mouse
[19:49] <brunch875> you should :D I don't use the mouse at all
[19:49] <brunch875> you use unity?
[19:49] <theseb> bekks: and how does that work when top is running?
[19:50] <theseb> brunch875: yes
[19:50] <brunch875> hold the windows key (super) to see the shortcut
[19:50] <brunch875> s
[19:50] <bekks> theseb: press q, then type exit, press enter.
[19:50] <brunch875> alt-tilde swaps between "same programs"
[19:50] <theseb> bekks: right
[19:50] <brunch875> tilde being the key left to your 1
[19:51] <brunch875> so you're at a terminal, switch to others with alt-~ (or alt-shift-~ to go backwards)
[19:51] <brunch875> then ctrl-c to stop current process
[19:51] <theseb> brunch875: wow! i knew about Alt-TAB but not Alt ~...cool!
[19:51] <brunch875> then ctrl-d to close the terminal, it types exit into it
[19:51] <theseb> brunch875: although isn't it really Alt-` cuz you don't press the shift key!
[19:52] <brunch875> it's alt-º for me, spanish layout :Þ
[19:52] <theseb> brunch875: ;)
[19:52] <charlotte-> is there a way to get sshd to serve directory listings in alpha order? i'm trying to work around what i feel is a misbehavior in filezilla.
[19:52] <theseb> brunch875: thanks..you've been a big help
[19:52] <brunch875> remember to hold the windows key to see available shortcuts
[19:52] <brunch875> I don't use mouse at all!
[19:53] <max12345> hello there gents, I have a curious case of a boot resistant (old) laptop.
[19:53] <Kurvivor> good evening! got a problem after installing last update: sound card drivers are no longer working properly
[19:53] <Kurvivor> is there a recommended way to rollback last updates or try and reapply them?
[19:54] <brunch875> theseb: ctrl-alt-t opens a terminal ;)
[19:54] <max12345> I tried an old boot stick with 14.04 which got to some point loading the live stuff and then the computer simply shut down
[19:55] <max12345> I then got a fresh bootstick with a 32bit (because old laptop? idk) 16.04, which simply gives me a boot error message when I try to select it as boot device
[19:55] <brunch875> which error message?
[19:55] <brunch875> pics or it didn't happen :Þ
[19:56] <Mr_Red> if you´re using 32 bit pc, you should to use xubuntu
[19:56] <max12345> it is a xubuntu distro, I like xubuntu anyway :)
[19:56] <max12345> I'll see about that error message, was really short and non descriptive though
[20:00] <max12345> "SYSLINUX 6.03 EDD" + copyright notice for H. Peter Anvin et all + "Boot error" is all it says
[20:00] <max12345> pressing a key simply reprints it
[20:00] <max12345> which is weird, because it doesn't even get to that nice loading screen then 14.04 got to
[20:01] <Batata> Hi, how do I update from 14.04 to 16.04 via terminal?
[20:01] <teward> Batata: I don't think the upgrade path is open yet for that
[20:02] <Batata> Because i have a problem, when the computer boots, it boots directly to desktop (it passes the login) and it doesnt have a GUI
[20:02] <brunch875> max12345: This has happened to me plenty of times
[20:03] <brunch875> My bet goes to the computer being fine but the USB being corrupt
[20:03] <brunch875> change the tool you use to create the USB
[20:03] <max12345> should I have reformated the stick before creating the live stick on it?
[20:03] <bekks> max12345: No.
[20:03] <brunch875> I'll find you a solution when I come back from dinner, be back later!
[20:03] <max12345> ok cool I'll wait
[20:04] <brunch875> what I did back then was do it manually
[20:04] <brunch875> actually I just remembered
[20:04] <andreip> Rufus is a good one.
[20:04] <baller> can i use ubuntu as a google cloud print server
[20:04] <brunch875> You should have a tool named disks on your ubuntu
[20:04] <teward> !crosspost | baller
[20:04] <on3pk> If ubuntu uses the `radeon' driver by default, does that extend to the official flavors of ubuntu?
[20:04] <teward> baller: you already have a potential answer in #ubuntu-server
[20:05] <debidi> Batata: edit /etc/apt/sources.list - set distro to xenial then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:05] <Batata> No1 how to fix GUI?
[20:05] <teward> on3pk: it should, yes.
[20:05] <baller> teward: sorry
[20:05] <max12345> brunch875: I don't ubuntu
[20:05] <on3pk> teward, is there a way to see if hardware acceleration is being used?
[20:06] <brunch875> max12345: if you have an ubuntu system you can use the disks program it comes with, hit the USB and select "restore partition image" to then choose the ISO
[20:06] <Dev_> hi, it's possible to disable compositing on Gnome Flashback (metacity) in Ubuntu 16.04 ?  It's intended to avoid video tearing
[20:06] <bluefox83> i was using my bluetooth headset yesterday, just fine. today I seem to not be able to get ubuntu to realize i have a bluetooth chip...how do i fix that?
[20:06] <brunch875> I have no idea about windows, sorry :s
[20:06] <debidi> on3pk: install mesa-utils then glxinfo
[20:06] <brunch875> try to use a different tool as the one you're using right now
[20:07] <bluefox83> i'm using ubuntu 15.04
[20:07] <tgm4883> rufus is the recommended USB creator for windows
[20:07] <DarkBlueShark> how to run a command at startup?
[20:07] <on3pk> debidi, ok thanks.  I think I'm going to re-install 16.04 first
[20:08] <curlyears> bluefox83: without a version number for your version of ubuntu, it's going to be difficult for anyone to help you
[20:08] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | bluefox83
[20:08] <curlyears> DarkBlueShark: at "startup (e.g boot) or when a user logs in?
[20:08] <SusWombat> Can/should i trust webupd8 ppas?
[20:09] <DarkBlueShark> before boot
[20:09] <DarkBlueShark> or directly when I log in
[20:09] <bekks> SusWombat: That is up to you. As I aöready told you in #ubuntu-de
[20:09] <DarkBlueShark> or do u maybe know how to disable ipv6 on all interfaces across reboot?
[20:09] <curlyears> DarkBlueShark: " before boot?"
[20:10] <DarkBlueShark> doesn't matter
[20:10] <SusWombat> bekks, well we talked about ppas in general but still thanks :)
[20:10] <DarkBlueShark> yeah itd be great before boot
[20:10] <DarkBlueShark> while booting
[20:10] <bekks> SusWombat: And the general answer applies to specific PPA as well.
[20:10] <brianx> DarkBlueShark: /etc/rc.local or .bashrc
[20:10] <curlyears> DarkBlueShark: 1) nnoth9ng is running befroe boot, and 2)  you still haven't identified which version of ubuntu you are runnning
[20:11] <DarkBlueShark> ok I'm in etc/RC.local
[20:11] <DarkBlueShark> what now?
[20:11] <brianx> add your command to the end.
[20:11] <DarkBlueShark> xubuntu the newest one
[20:11] <DarkBlueShark> ok
[20:11] <debidi> before the exit
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Batata, ,make sure your updatemanager is set to LTS upgrade only, then do, sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:12] <curlyears> what is the latest versino  of xubuntu?  16.04, or 14.04.4?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> curlyears, 16.04
[20:12] <DarkBlueShark> will this command run as root?
[20:13] <curlyears> ok, tnx blueskaj
[20:13] <brianx> DarkBlueShark: yes.
[20:13] <DarkBlueShark> ok thx I'll try it out
[20:13] <Bashing-om> curlyears: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ .
[20:14] <curlyears> Bashing-om: tnx, I am not interested in running xubuntu, was just trying to identify what, exactly, DarkBlueShark is running
[20:14] <brianx> DarkBlueShark: sudo will let you run as a lesser user if you can.
[20:15] <DarkBlueShark> brianx it didn't work :(
[20:15] <curlyears> \brianx:    reakky?  How does that work?  I have never heard of that.
[20:15] <DarkBlueShark> what do u mean?
[20:16] <DarkBlueShark> lesser?
[20:16] <curlyears> usually I just use sudoi chuser(blah) for that
[20:16] <on3pk> also, what do you guys generally perfer?  Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
[20:16] <squinty> DarkBlueShark, tried disabling via network-manager?
[20:16] <brianx> rc.local is run pretty late in the boot process, but if your command needs specific services you may have to use systemd
[20:16] <DarkBlueShark> no I didn't isn't there a way to disable jpv6 across reboots in the terminal?
[20:16] <curlyears> \root has the highest level of access possible, otherusers who are not designated so, have lesser levels of access
[20:17] <brianx> curlyears: see the man page, i don't remember the switches but i think it's sudo username -c command
[20:17] <squinty> DarkBlueShark, nmcli perhaps?
[20:17] <craptalk> why does my screen flickering?
[20:17] <DarkBlueShark> what's nmcli
[20:17] <arooni> anyone know how to make fish work with syntax highlighting for less ?  i tried setting the LESS and LESSOPEN env variables and installing the syntax highlighting package... still not working :\
[20:17] <DarkBlueShark> ?
[20:17] <craptalk> like artifacts or something?
[20:18] <curlyears> hmm...wonder hhow long ago they added that feature to sudo (I've been using sudo since about 1983, so)
[20:18] <craptalk> i am just installed ubuntu mate
[20:18] <brianx> curlyears: no clue, was there when i looked...  been awhile.
[20:19] <curlyears> brianx:  tnx
[20:19] <Technobliterator> Anyone know how to get open source usb drivers to work? I'm using rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux and I've gone through the process, make, sudo make install, but it's still not picking up my usb
[20:19] <curlyears> see?  I learn important things in here even when I DON'T ask questions.  *grin*
[20:19] <brianx> DarkBlueShark: if you're trying to do something that needs networking to be guaranteed up (or down), you'll need systemd.  there are lots of blogs covering that, it's a bit complex for here.
[20:20] <brianx> curlyears: :-)
[20:20] <DarkBlueShark> ok thx I'll search on Google
[20:21] <curlyears> Technobliterator: are you sure you correctly modified the source to reflect your local system setup?  Most such packages require that
[20:21] <Technobliterator> I wasn't aware I needed to do that
[20:31] <curlyears> Holy Cow!  Just ran quickly through the man page for sudo....it's a flexible and powerful tool, much more4 so than I ever realized
[20:34] <brianx> heh
[20:35] <brianx> curlyears: how were you dropping privlidges before?
[20:47] <dixonstalbert> Technoblit...: what is output of 'sudo modprobe 8812au command?
[20:48] <chetanska_> Hello people. New to ubuntu studio. having trouble with playing dvd....anyone care to help?
[20:49] <xangua> ! DVD | chetanska_
[20:49] <on3pk> So I ran glxinfo.  How do I interpret the data to see if hardware acceleration is enabled?
[20:50] <chetanska_> thank you ubottu
[20:50] <arooni> anyone know how to make fish shell work with syntax highlighting for less ?  i tried setting the LESS and LESSOPEN env variables and installing the syntax highlighting package... still not working :\
[20:51] <Humorousone> Hey
[20:54] <unicornjedi> hi there folks
[20:54] <unicornjedi> Has anyone gotten hulu working?
[20:55] <xangua> unicornjedi: if it needs something proprietary, try with google chrome
[20:56] <unicornjedi> xangua, what about chromium?
[20:58] <teward> unicornjedi: Chromium won't have the proprietary things
[20:58] <teward> like DRM
[20:58] <OerHeks> if you get chromium to work with hulu, let us know
[20:58] <unicornjedi> I find that a lot of people hate DRM
[20:58] <teward> unicornjedi: Hulu on Ubuntu is achievable with Google Chrome, and only Google Chrome.  Chromium is not a viable substitute (E: No Flash, no DRM)
[20:59] <xangua> unicornjedi: people hate DRM...  You actually don't possess the video or the file right? Thats my understanding
[21:01] <claude_> hi
[21:03] <unicornjedi> OerHeks, time to install hal!
[21:03] <claude_> ?
[21:04] <bekks> unicornjedi: No.
[21:04] <unicornjedi> bekks, no... to my understanding of DRM or installing HAL
[21:05] <Queenslayer> flash issues chromium
[21:05] <bekks> unicornjedi: DRM are technologies technologies that are used to restrict usage of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works.
[21:05] <Queenslayer> How to install adobe flash in terminal for chromium?
[21:05] <mladoux> Hello people, anyone know a good way to block ip's of people who keep trying to log into my server as root ( even though root logins are disallowed ) automatically?
[21:05] <tgm4883> !fail2ban | mladoux
[21:05] <teward> mladoux: properly configured fail1ban
[21:05] <mladoux> thx
[21:05] <tgm4883> !info fail2ban
[21:06] <tgm4883> teward: fail2ban > fail1ban ;)
[21:06] <teward> whatever
[21:06] <teward> tgm4883: common typos are typos, dont' bother claling out on them
[21:06] <teward> s/claling/calling/
[21:06] <tgm4883> it was a joke...
[21:06] <mladoux> tgm4883, thanks, I set it up 2 days ago, and I already had 1000 attempts to log in. Thankfully, I'm much more familiar with my firewall, so that part of the security is handled.
[21:06] <teward> mladoux: or if you don't want the fail2ban route, either firewall your box so SSH is only reachable by your IPs, or enable SSH Key Auth only
[21:07] <teward> tgm4883: E:No Coffee, i tend to be more irritable, sorry
[21:07] <\9> I actually thought for a second that it was ubottu that said the "properly configured fail1ban" as a snark for some reason
[21:07] <mladoux> teward, well, the ssh has to remain open... for management reasons.
[21:07] <Queenslayer> tgm4883 is known to have bad humour
[21:07] <tgm4883> There's probably some bad IP list he could subscribe to
[21:07] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: kindly take a long walk off a short pier
[21:07] <mladoux> teward, but I just finished setting up my certificates, so I suppose I could disable password login altogether.
[21:08] <teward> mladoux: certificates != SSH keys
[21:08] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, talking BS as per habit
[21:08] <mladoux> teward, I know, but I couldn't remember the word
[21:08] <mladoux> lol
[21:08] <xangua> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | Queenslayer
[21:09] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: ah is that what your doing...
[21:09] <Queenslayer> xangua, thanks
[21:09] <Queenslayer> saves a lot of hassle
[21:09] <teward> mladoux: if you've set up SSH Key Authentication and it works, then you can turn off password authentication and that'll help a bit.  I still think fail2ban will work, but if you don't want to set it up, Key Auth Only.  :p
[21:09] <OerHeks> pepperflashplugin-nonfree downloads chrome, rips the plugin :-D
[21:09] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, keep trying, you'll get there eventually
[21:10] <Queenslayer> OerHeks, how do you mean?
[21:10] <bazhang> Queenslayer, save the chit chat for the offtopic channels
[21:10] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: no thanks kiddo, I got better stuff to do
[21:10] <mladoux> key auth only is okay, I've been using it exclusively for connecting anyway.
[21:10] <Queenslayer> bazhang, you're a mod on here too?
[21:11] <bazhang> Queenslayer, this is support only, not idle chat channel
[21:11] <Queenslayer> OP sorry
[21:11] <Queenslayer> I've not instigated it, I'm here for the Chromium stuff.  xangua has kindly answered
[21:11] <Queenslayer> It's tgm4883 going off-topic here
[21:12] <bazhang> Queenslayer, thats enough
[21:12] <Queenslayer> My bad, I did mention tgm4883's bad humour
[21:13] <OerHeks> "Pepper Flash Player is similar to flashplugin-nonfree. The difference is that flashplugin-nonfree downloads just the Adobe Flash Player, while for Pepper Flash Player downloads Google Chrome, and then unpacks it to make the included Pepper Flash Player available for use with Chromium. "
[21:18] <aruns> Hi, I am fairly new to Ubuntu, I know enough UNIX commands to find my way around the shell.
[21:18] <aruns> But I have a warning notification on the top bar.
[21:19] <EriC^^> red?
[21:19] <k1l_> aruns: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[21:19] <aruns> 'An error occurred, please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. The error message was: 'Error: BrokenCount > 0'. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies'
[21:21] <EriC^^> aruns: try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:21] <aruns> -f as in force?
[21:21] <\9> -f means --fix-broken
[21:22] <aruns> Ah, Ok.
[21:22] <aruns> Here is the paste regardless
[21:22] <aruns> https://bpaste.net/show/3a93af3b4f00
[21:23] <mladoux> yay, I thought I broke it, but then realized that I was still on my management account on the server and hadn't actually exited the ssh session yet, lol. But the good news, it didn't even ask me for a password, it just gave me a big FU. That said, started a new terminal, and was able to ssh in with keys just fine.
[21:24] <Newbie> yo
[21:24] <Newbie> Linix
[21:24] <mladoux> I'm reading up on fail2ban now, but at least for now, attackers are only using a method that is already locked down, so they aren't getting in that way.
[21:24] <Newbie> halp
[21:24] <aruns> Now I get this:
[21:24] <aruns> https://bpaste.net/show/129ed373c150
[21:24] <Newbie> Attackers?
[21:25] <bekks> Newbie: Do you have a specific support question?
[21:25] <Newbie> Yes! I do, can you halp me?
[21:25] <mladoux> people trying to get root access to my server, unsuccessfully, sir Newbie
[21:25] <bekks> Newbie: You need to ASK you question.
[21:25] <Newbie> When I open a window, the bottom panel overlaps it
[21:26] <Seveas> aruns: do you require your system to be multiarch? If not, just removing gcc-4.9-base:i386 may work.
[21:26] <Newbie> bekks you seem impatient, and not the best people person
[21:26] <Newbie> I'm sorry to hear that, mladoux, I hate hackers. I don't know why they do what they do....
[21:26] <Seveas> Newbie: easy on the attitude, mate.
[21:26] <mladoux> Newbie, I do, and I don't hate them at all.
[21:26] <tgm4883> Newbie: this isn't a chat channel. It's a support channel. Lets keep it on topic shall we
[21:26] <Newbie> Seveas, I have found that this chat is the one with the poor attitude. I have worked 10 years in customer service. Thanks.
[21:27] <Newbie> bekks, what do you think of my window problem?
[21:27] <chetanska_> ok I need someone to walk a dummie through the dvd player issue. I need to play dvd but have no luck and can't figure out why
[21:27] <bekks> Newbie: Nothing. I've stopped waiting for your actual support question.
[21:27] <Newbie> chetanska, have you installed Ubuntu Restricted Extras?
[21:27] <Seveas> aruns: though, these apt issues are quite odd. Did you add some strange 3rd party repos perhaps?
[21:27] <Newbie> Bekks, I typed it up there?
[21:27] <tgm4883> Newbie: then you're appreciate the channel etiquette
[21:27] <mladoux> chetanska_, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:28] <aruns> Seveas: Yes, I think I tried to edit sources.list to add a third party repository
[21:28] <Seveas> Newbie: ubuntu has no bottom panel...
[21:28] <Newbie> Can someone other than bekks help me with this window problem? When I open a window in Ubuntu MATE 16.04, it is overlapped by the bottom panel.
[21:28] <tgm4883> Newbie: we'll need a little bit more info than that. What Ubuntu release and what DE you're running since unity doesn't have a bottom panel
[21:28] <aruns> Seveas: Also, as for multi-arch, I am running Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS on an 11 year old Dell Latitude D610.
[21:28] <Seveas> aruns: pastebin your sources.list and the output of apt-cache policy gcc-4.9-base:i386 and apt-cache policy gcc-4.9-base:amd64
[21:28] <Newbie> tgm4883, what more specifics would you like than the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 that I typed? 64-bit intel?
[21:29] <Newbie>  Chetanska are you still there?
[21:29] <chetanska_> mladoux I said a dummy.... as in walk me through it....I've done a bunch of stuff people recommended and nothing has worked. not sure now what all is installed
[21:29] <aruns> Seveas: Is it OK if I used bpaste.net? I generally find it easier to use.
[21:29] <Newbie> ok
[21:29] <tgm4883> Newbie: dude, you need to relax. You'll notice we both typed that at the same time
[21:29] <Iijjkk-1> newbie: what's the problem?
[21:29] <Seveas> aruns: sure. As Long as I can see the output, I don't care much where you put it :)
[21:29] <Newbie> ok tgm4883.
[21:29] <Iijjkk-1> can you describe it again, i just joined the channel?
[21:29] <Newbie> Chetanska, what did you think of my suggestion?
[21:29] <aruns> OK, great, thanks :)
[21:29] <kn0wledge_> can anyone tell me if you still need the acs and i915 patches for 4.6.. im running into problems compiling trying to manually patch the hunks that fail
[21:30] <Newbie> Compiling......
[21:30] <Newbie> lol
[21:30] <aruns> Seveas: Oh, I think I also may have tried to upgrade some system packages and that may be what caused the problem, so will try and see if I can the commands that I ran in the terminal.
[21:30] <Newbie> If no one is going to make one attempt at helping my ubuntu issue, then this chat is not for helping newbies.
[21:30] <Seveas> aruns: the output of the commands I gave you, and the contents of sources.list, will give me a pretty reasonable indication of how much you messed up :-)
[21:30] <Newbie> oh sorry Iijjkk
[21:31] <Newbie> Iijjkk, I did not see that you were typing to me, I apologize.
[21:31] <Newbie> Can someone other than bekks help me with this window problem? When I open a window in Ubuntu MATE 16.04, it is overlapped by the bottom panel.
[21:31] <bekks> Newbie: Can you please stop hilighting me? Thank you.
[21:31] <tgm4883> !patience | Newbie
[21:31] <aruns> Seveas: Why did I mess up? :( :( :( :P
[21:32] <Newbie> ubottu, I was ASKED to repeat it, by iijjkk. Man, a lot of stuffy people in this chat every time.
[21:32] <Iijjkk-1> newbie, what windowing system does mate 16.04 use?
[21:32] <Seveas> aruns: I'm not even sure you did. Still waiting for the output :)
[21:32] <tgm4883> Newbie: you might also try the ubuntu mate channel
[21:32] <aruns> Seveas: Here is output from sources.list : https://bpaste.net/show/adb722349159
[21:32] <xangua> Newbie: maybe you should show us how your desktop actually looks when it occurs and stop being rude
[21:32] <tgm4883> Newbie: that was more in to your response of this channel isn't here to help...
[21:32] <\9> xangua: mate is a gnome 2 derivative and thus has top and bottom panels
[21:33] <Newbie> This is the ubuntu mate channel. I was sent here by the Ubuntu MATE OS, therefore this is the Ubuntu MATE channel.
[21:33] <tgm4883> !mate
[21:33] <tgm4883> Newbie: no, it's not  ^
[21:33] <tgm4883> bah
[21:33] <Newbie> I was sent here by Ubuntu MATE, so talk to it, not me
[21:33] <tgm4883> #ubuntu-mate
[21:33] <tgm4883> Newbie: oh I will
[21:33] <chetanska_> yea I guess this o.s. is for techies only. I thought people were trying to make linux user friendly.  people answer my issues with questions I don't even understand. not much help. the forums are pretty much the same. it'd be a shame to have to resort to bill gate's software again.
[21:33] <Newbie> I believe that you will, but could you describe to me how you will tell Ubuntu MATE?
[21:33] <Seveas> aarontc: that third party repo seems relatively harmless, though you should be using its trusty version instead of utopic.
[21:34] <Seveas> err, aruns*
[21:34] <Newbie> chetanska, for the 3rd time, what did you think of my user-friendly suggestion i type for you up there?
[21:34] <aruns> Seveas: Output from apt-cache policy gcc-4.9-base:i386: https://bpaste.net/show/b70b476e4c30
[21:34] <xangua> chetanska_: saying you'll go back to windows won't help fix your issues, you're free to use whatever os you want
[21:34] <tgm4883> Newbie: I'll ask why Martin is pointing here from the welcome screen
[21:34] <Newbie> Thank you tgm4883, that was a helpful answer.
[21:35] <tgm4883> Newbie: helpful yes, but completely off topic
[21:35] <Newbie> excuse me?
[21:35] <aruns> Seveas: Output from apt-cache policy gcc-4.9-base:amd64: https://bpaste.net/show/b2836b976af9
[21:35] <Newbie> This chat is part of this chat. Are you sure you are the right person to address any topic?
[21:35] <tgm4883> Newbie: in any case, I pointed you at #ubuntu-mate since there are likely more people there that run mate, and might know of the issue you are having
[21:36] <Newbie> I am not responsible for changing the chat box I am in, as it was not my fault. It is up to the creators of Ubuntu MATE to move me.
[21:36] <aruns> Seveas, have I provided you with enough information, or is there anything else I need to provide you with?
[21:37] <Seveas> aruns: that makes no sense whatsoever :/ Next command I'd like to see the output of: dpkg -l | grep gcc
[21:37] <tgm4883> Newbie: oh I see...
[21:37] <Seveas> aruns: and with 'that' I mean 'that output', not you yourself :)
[21:37] <Newbie> If I was directed here, then this is where I should be, and that is that. This chat is a pile of horseshit help. It has as much humanity as a Dungeons and Dragons game, with 300 pound depressed kids running it, creating stuffy bots that talk back to newbies.
[21:37] <tgm4883> !ops
[21:37] <chetanska_> Newbie ..... I couldn't answer because
[21:37] <aruns> :P
[21:38] <aruns> I understand :P
[21:38] <Newbie> Yes chet?
[21:38] <Newbie> Because?
[21:38] <aruns> But 'which' command are you referring to? ;)
[21:38] <aruns> Anyway.
[21:38] <tgm4883> !dvd | chetanska_ did you try this yet
[21:38] <Newbie> which witch is which?
[21:38] <Newbie> ubottu you are not a bad
[21:38] <aruns> Seveas: Here is the paste from running dpkg -l | grep gcc: https://bpaste.net/show/7d44d1a0d668
[21:38] <chetanska_> I have no idea what the heck you're talking about or how to do so
[21:38] <Newbie> ubottu you are not a bot*
[21:38] <Newbie> ubottu you are not a bot
[21:39] <Newbie> ubottu you are not a bot
[21:39] <elky> Newbie: stop that.
[21:39] <Seveas> aruns: ok, starting to make a bit more sense. One more before I can (hopefully) start giving commands that fix things: dpkg -l | grep ':amd64'
[21:39] <Newbie> elky, start fixing my ubuntu issue, or you have no place here
[21:39] <chetanska_> Newbie, how do I install the restricted what'sit you mentioned?
[21:39] <tgm4883> oh no...
[21:40] <tgm4883> chetanska_: you've been linked the page twice on how to install it
[21:40] <Newbie> On Ubuntu MATE 16.04, when I open a window, the bottom panel overlaps it.
[21:40] <aruns> Seveas: Here is the paste from running dpkg -l | grep ':amd64': https://bpaste.net/show/4bf680cd230c
[21:41] <chetanska_> tgm4883 thanks for stating the obvious. ....obviously I didn't find it helpful enough. that's why I came back
[21:41] <Newbie> Chet, can you open the Ubuntu Software Center, or the creatively titled "Software" program? Then look for the thing I suggested. Thank you
[21:41] <Seveas> aruns: excellent. Try this: sudo dpkg -P gcc-4.9-base:amd64
[21:41] <chetanska_> I don't need people directing me to a page I've already read and found useless
[21:41] <elky> Newbie: you've been told to /join #ubuntu-mate so please do so.
[21:41] <tgm4883> chetanska_: .... Did you read it? It states in no uncertain terms that you need to "sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg"
[21:41] <Newbie> Chet, I can understand your frustration. I hope I can be of help to you.
[21:42] <Newbie> elky, it is not my fault I am here. Talk to someone else about my being here, not me, as it was not my fault.
[21:42] <\9> elky: i'm pretty sure this is a troll we've had trouble with before, his behavior is identical
[21:42] <aruns> Seveas: I will. By the way, I don't just want to get it fixed, I want to learn from this experience also so that I do not make the same mistake in the future. Is it OK if you could tell me what is going on? :)
[21:42] <squinty> \9,  +1
[21:43] <Seveas> aruns: well, this amd64 package has no business being on your i386 system. I have no clue how it got there, but removing it will fix apt's confusion.
[21:43] <aruns> Seveas: Oh, is it because it's a 64 bit package running on a 32 bit OS?
[21:43] <Seveas> yup
[21:43] <aruns> Right.
[21:43] <Seveas> it probably was installed with one of those commands you mentioned earlier 'to upgrade system packages' :)
[21:43] <aruns> Seveas: Oh, and here is the paste from running the last command: https://bpaste.net/show/b11ca0d0c2bb
[21:43] <aruns> Right.
[21:43] <k1l_> chetanska_: what exactly didnt work when you tried what is told at the page linked?
[21:44] <chetanska_> tgm4883 please help or stop patronizing me. I fricking read it already and either didn't understand it correctly or something else is wrong.
[21:44] <aruns> What is the best way of adding repositories, in future, that are from third party sources?
[21:44] <Seveas> aruns: well, that seems to have deleted the broken package. apt-get should now work again.
[21:44] <tgm4883> chetanska_: Have you tried installing that package?
[21:45] <chetanska_> Oh for f@#ks sake will somebody please talk me through this issue instead of talking about a page I've obviously already been to and didnt
[21:45] <chetanska_> ' find helpful
[21:45] <tgm4883> chetanska_: that's what I'm trying to do. It would be SUPER helpful if you told us what you've tried already
[21:45] <k1l_> chetanska_: we cant help you since you dont say what your issue is exactly.
[21:46] <squinty> or *exactly* what you don't understand about that terminal command
[21:46] <k1l_> chetanska_: what exactly doesnt work? which step on the howto didnt work? we are still on "my car doesnt work" and we ask "what exactly doesnt work"
[21:46] <aruns> Seveas: You mentioned cloning the trusty version of a repository, not its utopic version. Is it OK if you could tell me what you mean by that? :)
[21:47] <aruns> I am still pretty new to Ubuntu / Linux in general, downloaded Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS back in November 2015, but still find that I have a lot to learn.
[21:47] <chetanska_> ok tgm4883 act as if you were talking to a completely computer illiterate person who just installed ubuntu for the first time. my f@#king dvds won't play. how should I know what did or didn't work? what would you start with? in english please
[21:47] <Seveas> aruns: at the bottom of your sources.list you have 'utopic', which is not the ubuntu version you are using, which is 'trusty'
[21:48] <aruns> Ahh, right.
[21:48] <Seveas> [23:41] <     tgm4883> | chetanska_: .... Did you read it? It states in no uncertain terms that you need to "sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg"
[21:48] <Seveas> chetanska_: I suggest you start with that.
[21:48] <aruns> Seveas: Thank for all your help this evening, it really got me out of a jam :)
[21:48] <tgm4883> chetanska_: as I've previously stated. Open a terminal and type in  "sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg"
[21:48] <Seveas> aruns: you're welcome. Next time try a pickle instead of a jam :)
[21:48] <aruns> ;)
[21:49] <chetanska_> I tried sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 and read2 never pkg
[21:49] <tgm4883> chetanska_: ok, then try that command I gave
[21:49] <Bashing-om> aruns: These "deb http://apt.cppcms.com/ utopic main " on your soyrce list are not helping you, utopic is a thing of the past .. and only conflicts can result .
[21:49] <B0g4r7_> So, I'm running ubuntu 16.04, with gnome-session-flashback installed.  I find that in the Flashback environment, I am unable to grab any Nautilus windows by their edges to resize them.  Any idea how to fix that?
[21:49] <aruns> Seveas: I have a book on UNIX commands at home, but are there any really good tutorials you can recommend for learning how to better navigate my way around Ubuntu, either video or text based, or anything that you would recommend I look into based on your experience with Ubuntu.
[21:49] <Seveas> Bashing-om: we covered that already :)
[21:50] <aruns> Bashing-om: Thanks for clarifying, though :0
[21:50] <aruns> * :)
[21:50] <Seveas> aruns: there's the ubuntu book. Not sure if it's still being updated though.
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Seveas: :) sorry, thought I was paying better attention .
[21:50] <B0g4r7_> Some other windows are also affected, like System Monitor is, but some are not affected, like I can resize the XChat window and Chromium.
[21:50] <chetanska_> unable to locate package libdvd-pkg
[21:50] <tgm4883> chetanska_: what's the output of "lsb_release -r"
[21:50] <k1l_> chetanska_: what ubuntu version are you on exactly?
[21:51] <Seveas> aruns: but in general I know very little about beginner material. Have been using ubuntu for too long to pay attention to those.
[21:51] <k1l_> libdvd-pkg is in the ubuntu repos from 15.10 on.
[21:51] <B0g4r7_> The problem does not occur in Unity.  In Unity all windows are resizable as they should be.
[21:51] <chetanska_> studio 14.04 with vlc added
[21:51] <tgm4883> chetanska_: ok, you know what, my bad. I thought you had said you were on 16.04
[21:51] <aruns> Seveas: Ah, OK. One thing I don't know too much about are the Linux file systems. I know there's Ext1 through to 4, but not sure about what there is to know about them.
[21:51] <B0g4r7_> I never had this problem using Flashback on 14.04.  Just on 16.04.
[21:52] <aruns> Seveas: I also have VIM installed, are you a VIM expert? :)
[21:52] <k1l_> chetanska_: for 14.04 the package name is "libdvdread4"
[21:52] <tgm4883> chetanska_: so you've installed libdvdread4 already, did you run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[21:52] <chetanska_> I tried that it's supposedly already installed
[21:53] <k1l_> chetanska_: then run "sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh"
[21:53] <chetanska_> I tried that css.sh and got an error ....hold on Ill do it again and post the output
[21:53] <Seveas> aruns: we're drifting a bit off-topic here, as this channel is more for direct support questions. For more on ext4, see http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 , for more on vim, seek psychiatric help :D
[21:53] <k1l_> chetanska_: backgroundinfo: ubuntu is not allowed to ship the dvd libraries due to licence issues. so there must be this sepcial setup.
[21:54] <Seveas> aruns: google will probably find you hundreds of vim tutorials. I've been using it for ~15 years, but wouldn't call myself an expert.
[21:55] <chetanska_> I understand K1l I just wish it was easier to get some help without feeling like the whole forum is patronizing you and talking to you in swahili
[21:56] <chetanska_> ok I copied and pasted it from your text and there's something slightly different in your command line than was posted on the help forum...something actually happened this time...might be resolved
[21:56] <k1l_> chetanska_: as i said: details matter. there are several ways where people could go wrong on that special path. so we need more input what is going wrong.
[21:57] <chetanska_> it's set up libdvdcss2 now
[21:57] <snfgf> So, I insert an SD card, and it automounts. I umount, because I want to mount it elsewhere, but get an error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or other error.
[21:57] <reisio> snfgf: you get an error while umounting?
[21:57] <bekks> snfgf: So how are you mounting it?
[21:57] <snfgf> reisio, no, while trying to mount it again
[21:58] <snfgf> [12308.978371] FAT-fs (sdc): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[21:58] <reisio> snfgf: with what command
[21:58] <snfgf> bekks, mount -t fat /dev/sdc /mnt
[21:58] <snfgf> also tried -t vfat
[21:58] <reisio> snfgf: what about 'mount /dev/sdc /mnt' ?
[21:58] <snfgf> same error
[21:58] <bekks> snfgf: you should not use utf8 with fat.
[21:59] <snfgf> It is a new SD card I just bought.
[21:59] <reisio> try with -o codepage=437
[22:00] <snfgf> [12614.888862] FAT-fs (sdc): bogus number of reserved sectors
[22:00] <snfgf> [12614.888869] FAT-fs (sdc): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[22:00] <mladoux> heh, I was trying to figure out why mod_rewrite was causing https to crash, so I googled, and saw someone say options all... I did it as a test, but didn't leave it that way because, doi, anyway, it worked, so I check my http config, and found the missing option ( FollowSymLinks )
[22:00] <snfgf> And still, it automounts
[22:01] <bekks> snfgf: So whats the output of "mount"? Pastebin it please.
[22:02] <aruns> Seveas: Hi, thanks very much for the link, and as for VIM, I suppose I'll just have to look up tutorials :P
[22:02] <snfgf> http://termbin.com/088q
[22:02] <aruns> Seveas: You say you've used VIM for 15 years, by the way, so you've been using Linux distributions in general for quite a while...?
[22:02] <chetanska_> tgm4883 and k1l thank you both for your patience and time. once I figure this out I'll be helping others switch to linux because I hate bill gates. ...dvd is playing now
[22:02] <max12345> hey guys I'm feeling like an idiot trying to create a bootable stick. unetbootin doesn't do it for me for some reason
[22:03] <k1l_> max12345: "dd" is one of the best solutions. with the gui programs there can be issues when the syslinux version on the system and the usb.iso is s adifferent one
[22:04] <snfgf> bekks, I was using /dev/sdc rather than /dev/sdc1 O_o
[22:04] <reisio> max12345: what happens with unetbootin?
[22:04] <max12345> reisio: I think I'm getting the issue k1l_ is talking about
[22:05] <Seveas> max12345: what are you trying to create a bootable usb stick of? The ubuntu installer?
[22:06] <reisio> max12345: I was asking what happens
[22:06] <max12345> xubuntu but yes
[22:06] <Seveas> reisio: dd will work, but I've also had success with usb-creator-gtk
[22:06] <Seveas> err, max12345*
[22:06] <max12345> I get a SYSLINUX boot error when I use the stick I create with unetbootin
[22:07] <reisio> k
[22:09] <max12345> Seveas: I'll try the gtk one then
[22:12] <aruns> Hi, guys, by the way.
[22:12] <aruns> On Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS, what is the best way of finding out the temperature of your machine?
[22:12] <aruns> Is there an application I can install?
[22:12] <aruns> Last question before I go bed.
[22:13] <k1l_> aruns: there is "sensors" for the terminal
[22:13] <tgm4883> aruns: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[22:13] <k1l_> aruns: or you use some indicators for the panel
[22:14] <aruns> Great, thanks :)
[22:14] <Seveas> aruns: psensor will do the trick for a gui
[22:14] <aruns> Thanks guys :D
[22:14] <aruns> I'm off to bed now, thanks for all the help tonight.
[22:14] <aruns> 23:14 PM GMT for me
[22:14] <max12345> maybe this time then...
[22:15] <max12345> the funny thing is, of course I got sidetracked
[22:15] <max12345> and the laptop I actually wanted to boot still isn't running :D
[22:15] <paolochiodi> Hi, after upgrading from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 I fail to compile a number of tools, getting an error from libtool that track up to $global_symbol_pipe being empty. Is this something I can easily fix on the server or should the makefile of each single source code be changed?
[22:16] <Seveas> paolochiodi: are you trying to compile in a directory in which you compiled the same sources before?
[22:17] <paolochiodi> nope, fresh download
[22:17] <paolochiodi> (an example is orc, from gstreamer)
[22:18] <Seveas> paolochiodi: ok, pastebin the full command and output please
[22:21] <paolochiodi> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/jCrAf7M0
[22:21] <paolochiodi> note the double pipe in the command without anything in it (in the make output)
[22:21] <paolochiodi> that’s the place for $global_symbol_pipe
[22:23] <Seveas> that smells like configure was generated with a different autotools than what your system expects. Is there an autogen.sh?
[22:24] <paolochiodi> Seveas: yes
[22:24] <Seveas> paolochiodi: make sure build-essential, libtool, autoconf and automake are installed and run the ./autogen.sh
[22:27] <pavimob> how do i install codecs on 16.04
[22:28] <xangua> pavimob: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:28] <paolochiodi> Seveas: that seems to be working, thanks. Just another question, should I run configure after autogent?
[22:28] <Seveas> yes
[22:29] <Seveas> autogen.sh generally regenerates configure (and some more files)
[22:30] <Ronin42> How do I find out what version of ocaml was unison compiled with?
[22:30] <paolochiodi> Seveas: thank you very much
[22:32] <Seveas> Ronin42: if you're installing it as normal from the Ubuntu repositories: the ocaml version in the Ubuntu repositories
[22:32] <kn0wledge_> does anyone know if ubuntu 16.04 kernel 4.6.0 still needs the acs and i915 patch for vga passthrough to nvidia gtx?
[22:33] <Ronin42> Seveas: Help me understand here. I don't have ocaml installed on my machine.
[22:33] <k1l_> kn0wledge_: ask the one who gave you the 4.6 kernel
[22:34] <kn0wledge_> lol.. kernel.org ;]
[22:34] <Ronin42> Seveas: When I install something from the repo, is it not the same thing as compiling from source?
[22:34] <Seveas> Ronin42: you don't need ocaml installed, it's only needed when building.
[22:35] <Seveas> Ronin42: no, it is not compiling from source. We don't live in the land of the ricers and sonsole scrollback junkies.
[22:35] <Ronin42> Seveas: o_O I ... I'm not sure what that means...
[22:36] <Seveas> Ronin42: it was a cheap shot at people who like to compile everything from source themselves :)
[22:36] <Seveas> Ubuntu packages are binary packages. The compiling is done on central buildservers so not everybody has to jump through the hoops of compiling everything.
[22:36] <kn0wledge_> how do i stop the lockscreen from comming up in kubuntu 16.04? i changed it in system settings and it doesnt seem to do anything
[22:37] <kn0wledge_> it comes up every 10 min about
[22:37] <Seveas> kn0wledge_: try #kubuntu if nobody in here knows (I certainly don't)
[22:37] <Ronin42> Seveas: Lol (it was more of a small burst of air getting exhaled), ok. So, if I install ocaml from the repos, and check the version, that should allow me to find out what version unison was compiled with?
[22:38] <snfgf> How do I turn off automount?
[22:38] <Seveas> Ronin42: or even just to apt-get show ocaml to get the version number. Or even just ask our bot :)
[22:38] <Seveas> !info ocaml | Ronin42
[22:38] <Ronin42> Seveas: Ty! That's sweet!
[22:38] <Ronin42> Seveas: I should lurk here more often :)
[22:38] <OerHeks> kn0wledge_, maybe some other energy setting ?
[22:39] <Seveas> snfgf: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false
[22:41] <snfgf> Seveas, thanks
[22:42] <kn0wledge_> OerHeks: i set everything to the max i think 360mins.. i keep looking hopefully figure it out soon
[22:42] <kn0wledge_> thanks
[22:45] <AbsurdTech> Life is fun scrubbing sticks off your laptop with nail polish
[22:45] <AbsurdTech> stickers*
[22:46] <reisio> hrmmm, never had to use nail polish
[22:46] <reisio> (or nail polish remover)
[22:47] <AbsurdTech> remover* whoops
[22:48] <AbsurdTech> but I'm pretty sure it's from the isopropyl alcohol in the remover that gets off that sticker gunk
[22:49] <Trinity> hi guys, i have a weird issue where my pulseaudio's output is being mixed into my pulseaudio input
[22:50] <Trinity> I may have messed with the configs some time ago, could someone advise me on what their settings are on?
[22:50] <Trinity> specifically the Configuration tab
[22:56] <djcray> Hey, i got a problem with the install of Ubuntu on a Windows 10. If i want to install it besides Windows 10, it cant load the Kernel somehow. Even if i try to format the Ubuntusystem and resinstall it, the same Problem. Can someone help me?
[22:56] <baller> OerHeks: hello
[23:06] <m0rdo> hi
[23:06] <m0rdo> I need help.I can't install tor on ubuntu 15.10 version
[23:07] <yagaoisa> Does anyone have a good method of adding music to my iOS 9.3 device on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:07] <m0rdo> how can help me?
[23:07] <yagaoisa> m0rdo:  tor browser?
[23:07] <gl1tch> djcray<<< did you try doing a fresh install of windows (formating hard drive with windows, and leave unpartitioned space for your linux install) then running the ubuntu installer?
[23:08] <m0rdo> yes, yagaoisa
[23:08] <djcray> gl1tch, i cant backup all of my data, so i didt did this
[23:08] <yagaoisa> m0rdo:  What is the error you're getting?
[23:09] <xdevnull> Guys I'm planning to install windows next to my ubuntu, Curentlly, my ubuntu taking the whole HD space. Is it possible to customize via any gui things? cuz i'm really bad in cmd :P
[23:09] <reisio> yagaoisa: wirelessly is the most straightforward
[23:09] <xdevnull> terminal *
[23:09] <reisio> ...since it's a wireless device
[23:09] <reisio> xdevnull: gparted
[23:09] <m0rdo> I tried to install tor from Ubuntu Software Centre but it doesn't want to start.
[23:09] <yagaoisa> reisio: adding local music to the device?
[23:09] <reisio> yagaoisa: yup
[23:09] <yagaoisa> m0rdo:  download from tor site
[23:09] <gl1tch> I would backup the data to a different disk drive before messing with your OS in the first place.
[23:10] <yagaoisa> reisio:  I've never heard of this method. How do I do that?
[23:10] <Trinity> anyone familiar with pulse audio>
[23:10] <Trinity> ?
[23:10] <reisio> someone is, yes
[23:10] <Trinity> my input is capturing my output for some reason. Anyone know why?
[23:11] <Trinity> it's very faint in the background. I'm sure its not my headset as they're two separate pieces and i've turned the volume on one all the way down
[23:11] <Trinity> and it's still 'bleeding' through
[23:11] <Trinity> this becomes a huge issue you know... when you are talking to friends on skype and watch porn at the same time. so any help is appreciated :D
[23:12] <B0g4r7_> yagaoisa, there is no good method that I have found.  Apple really doesn't want you to.
[23:12] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  Do you know what the eff reisio was talking about?
[23:12] <yagaoisa> Wirelessly transferring music from ubuntu to iPhone...
[23:12] <B0g4r7_> Can't say I do.
[23:13] <B0g4r7_> You can copy the files, sure, but they won't show up in the Music app.
[23:13] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  I think he was pulling my leg
[23:13] <yagaoisa> Yeah...
[23:13] <B0g4r7_> I just use itunes on windows in vmware.
[23:13] <yagaoisa> ugh
[23:13] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  I don't want to use windows tho :D
[23:14] <B0g4r7_> Maybe you can get it to run in wine.
[23:14] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  See... this kills me man. My boss at work wants me to take a bunch of training so he can get me to become a windows sys admin but my heart is in linux!
[23:14] <yagaoisa> he wants me to master .NET/powershell too
[23:14] <B0g4r7_> Story of a sysadmin's life.
[23:15] <B0g4r7_> Now you can blame Apple for forcing you to use Windows.
[23:15] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  Would you recommend just installing windows at home to focus on it and save a linux vm for linux stuff and banking?
[23:15] <xangua> Still nothing to do with Apple making crap products
[23:15] <CoolKevin> you guys done a really good job for me earlier, have another question
[23:16] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  I am trying to stay in Linux and windows on vm but its slower, ofc and don't wanna infect my system :D
[23:16] <CoolKevin> but do not know how to ask it
[23:16] <B0g4r7_> I've done it both ways.  I certainly prefer to have linux be in the driver's seat.
[23:16] <bprompt> yagaoisa:     what was the orignal question again?
[23:17] <yagaoisa> bprompt:  Does anyone have a good method of adding music to my iOS 9.3 device from Ubuntu 16.04?
[23:18] <B0g4r7_> itunes calculates a special hash for every song, and adds it to a database on the idevice.  So far no open source solutions can calculate that hash in the same way.
[23:18] <bprompt> yagaoisa:    hmmm I don't have an iOS device here, but... if you plug it in, doesn't it show as an MTP device anyway?
[23:18] <B0g4r7_> Without that has, the Music app will refuse to play it.
[23:18] <B0g4r7_> Unless things have changed since I last researched this.
[23:18] <yagaoisa> Yup what B0g4r7_ said
[23:18] <yagaoisa> Nope it generates its on hashes
[23:19] <yagaoisa> only iTunes can actually sort it for my phone to read it
[23:19] <CoolKevin> my question is, my last few desktop environments, had drop down menu's, but I cannot anything in the software centre
[23:19] <B0g4r7_> I think it can be made to work somehow if you trick the idevice in to operating in "legacy library mode", but I didn't pursue that.
[23:19] <bprompt> yagaoisa:     well... .then there you have it :), you get what you pay for
[23:19] <CoolKevin> at the moment all I have is basic intall
[23:21] <yagaoisa> bprompt:  best part is: I didn't pay for it so your statement truly rings in my ears :D
[23:21] <yagaoisa> Welp
[23:21] <yagaoisa> Windows VM it is
[23:21] <yagaoisa> B0g4r7_:  You a sys admin?!
[23:21] <B0g4r7_> Years ago I was.
[23:22] <yagaoisa> What're you up to now?
[23:22] <B0g4r7_> Maybe I still am, depending on who you ask.
[23:22] <yagaoisa> global domination?
[23:22] <yagaoisa> Ah, I gotcha :D
[23:22] <B0g4r7_> I mostly work with wireless internets.  WISP.
[23:22] <yagaoisa> Oh wow
[23:22] <yagaoisa> That sounds really interesting
[23:23] <B0g4r7_> Yeah, it does stay interesting.
[23:23] <bprompt> yagaoisa:    don't get me wrong ,Apple makes great software and hardware, the dog-in-a-leash part of their marketing is the part that I don't find very attractive, they go out of their way to make it convoluted for something that standards make it entirely unnecessary
[23:23] <squinty> !topic
[23:24] <yagaoisa> bprompt: No, I agree.
[23:24] <B0g4r7_> I use iphone mostly because it's the devil I know.
[23:28] <CoolKevin> I guess the question was too hard
[23:30] <squinty> CoolKevin,  there are some bugs in the software center.  might want to try installing gnome-software or synaptic.  sudo apt install synaptic    type that in a terminal
[23:30] <CoolKevin> thank you kind sir
[23:31] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: I didn't even see your question, which is precisely why excess chat is prohibited in this channel. So when you say it can't install anything, do you mean stuff in the repo or third party packages?
[23:32] <CoolKevin> it is ok, I understand
[23:35] <squinty> CoolKevin,  sorry   should have read as software-center and/or synaptic.
[23:36] <CoolKevin> sudo apt install software-center and/or synaptic.               add that you mean
[23:37] <squinty> CoolKevin,  sudo apt install software-center    is one command
[23:37] <CoolKevin> ok thank you kind sir
[23:38] <squinty> CoolKevin, sudo apt install synaptic   is run as another command
[23:38] <CoolKevin> I did that one thank you
[23:38] <squinty> CoolKevin, if you want to install both at the same time then   sudo apt install synaptic software-center
[23:38] <squinty> CoolKevin, yw
[23:38] <CoolKevin> ok thank you
[23:39] <baller> OerHeks: that google cloud print service isnt available for ubiunt
[23:39] <CoolKevin> thank you kind sir it is dl a lot
[23:41] <snfgf> time(1) says time has an -o option to write output to file, but I get error: 'command not found'
[23:43] <jiffe> so I have opencl installed but everything is saying there's no available platforms
[23:45] <jiffe> even if I didn't have GPUs this should still detect CPU no?
[23:45] <jiffe> that seems like something that should always work unconditionally
[23:46] <squinty> snfgf,  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11082233/how-to-redirect-result-of-linux-time-command-to-some-file
[23:48] <snfgf> thanks
[23:49] <squinty> snfgf,  actually tried /usr/bin/time -o time.txt here but still no go.
[23:51] <djcray> Why is Wubi not recommended anymore?
[23:54] <baller> OerHeks: that google cloud print service isnt available for ubiunt
[23:57] <AbsurdTech> baller: Meh, rather not hand off my printer to Google haha
[23:58] <azizLIGHT> on 14.04, if i change LC_TIME from en_US.UTF-8 to en_GB.UTF-8, besides changing the panel calendar's first day of the week from Sunday to Monday, what else will it do?
[23:59] <dromedary512> MM/DD/YYYY becomes DD/MM/YYYY
[23:59] <happosade> Hello
[23:59] <xdevnull> I want install win next to ubuntu, my ubuntu is talking all HD space. How do i customize space? i've downloaded "gparted" but i can't resize? even with i run it with sudo?


[07:03] <Kilos> morning all
[07:03] <Kilos> hi charl
[07:06] <magespawn> howdy all
[07:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[07:25] <magespawn> connection still bothering you Kilos?
[07:26] <Kilos> yeah bad again magespawn hopping fro 1 bar to 3 and back
[07:26] <Kilos> will rev them again monday
[07:26] <Kilos> via cell twitter and email
[07:27] <Kilos> is the signal down an adsl line and what is seen on eth cable the same?
[07:29] <kbmonkey> kekeke
[07:30] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[07:30] <kbmonkey> hihihi
[07:35] <magespawn> he kbmonkey
[07:35] <magespawn> Kilos: by signal you mean? speed?
[07:36] <Kilos> no i mean what if i plug an eth cable from here into the adsl port on the router
[07:37] <kbmonkey> signal to noise? reading you five by five Kilos
[07:37] <Kilos> so the router thinks the signal from my pc is coming from the adsl line
[07:37] <magespawn> the eth cable will not fit the adsl port, different jacks
[07:37] <Kilos> oh my
[07:38] <Kilos> sorry i havent even looked
[07:38] <magespawn> adsl is telephone line which is rj11 and eth is rj45
[07:39] <magespawn> phone line can only have 4 lines maximum, eth is 8
[07:39] <Kilos> but is what comes down them the same protocol i think its called
[07:40] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:40] <magespawn> no not really, the router contains a modem which translates the sync signal used in adsl to one used on networks
[07:41] <Kilos> ah head just running for ways to make router use my 3g
[07:42] <Kilos> i cant get masquerading going
[07:45] <magespawn> i suppose you could trick the modem into thinking that, but i think the amount of work to do that would be prohibitive
[07:45] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_protocol_over_Ethernet
[07:45] <Kilos> ty i go see
[07:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[07:47] <nlsthzn> Good morning uncle Kilos :)
[07:48] <Kilos> oh magespawn the remastersys install takes 25 mins and the dvd has 3.7g on it
[07:48] <Kilos> oh no thats kde
[07:48] <Kilos> 3.2 on the unity one
[07:50] <Kilos> and the only upgrade download after rsyncing /var/cache/apt/archives/ was 25m for firefox
[07:51] <Kilos> because i forgot to remove ff
[07:53] <magespawn> nice Kilos
[07:53] <magespawn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet some more reading
[07:53] <Kilos> yeah remastersys works well
[07:53] <Kilos> you getting like the pro
[07:54] <Kilos> half of that stuff i dont understand
[07:56] <Kilos> i still think i must get a wireless adapter for my pc that can use and external antenna and serach for a wifi connection
[07:56] <magespawn> if you want, but i am pretty sure the router should be able to do that
[07:57] <Kilos> i dont find anywhere to tell it to search
[07:57] <Kilos> grrr
[07:58] <Kilos> it will work if i buy a supported modem the setup looks easy and it has bridging facilities inside
[07:59] <magespawn> have a look at those bridging options, and see there if it can connect to another wifi network
[07:59] <Kilos> but wifi would be the way to go methinks if i can find a signal where i can share with them or even pay them to use it
[08:00] <Kilos> it wants to bridge either from adsl or 3g no other options
[08:00] <Kilos> thats where the adsl questions came from
[08:05] <magespawn> i will have a look at the billion routers i have here and  see whats what
[08:07] <kbmonkey> It is really unfortunate your dongle does not work out the box Kilos :(
[08:07] <kbmonkey> with the router I mean
[08:08] <Kilos> yeah kbmonkey mainly frustrating actually
[08:08] <magespawn> is there a list of ones that do work?
[08:09] <Kilos> yeah
[08:09] <Kilos> 6 of them i think
[08:11] <Kilos> http://www.billionsa.com/compatible-3G.html#7300nx
[08:11] <Kilos> theyve added some more
[08:11] <Kilos> 7300nx
[08:12] <Kilos> then it shows them
[08:12] <Kilos> 11 supported now
[08:15]  * magespawn goes to read
[08:17] <Kilos> to me it seems like a good router but dunno how it would compare to others
[08:25] <magespawn> i think i have a working e220 around here somewhere
[08:27] <Kilos> sell it
[08:27] <Kilos> hehe you seen that olx add on tv
[08:28] <Kilos> a whole range of them. actually quite good
[08:28] <Kilos> how much you want for it magespawn ?
[08:28] <magespawn> i get most of these things for free from people who no longer use them, so i tend to pay it forward
[08:31] <Kilos> have you got a wireless adapter as well?
[08:31] <Kilos> and i must pay something man
[08:34] <magespawn> if it is sitting here doing nothing, then why?
[08:39] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[08:39] <Kilos> magespawn, yes please
[08:39] <georgelappies> HI kILOS
[08:39] <Kilos> you still got postage addy?
[08:41] <magespawn> somewhere send it again anyway
[08:43] <Kilos> box 48507
[08:44] <Kilos> hercules
[08:44] <Kilos> 0030
[08:45] <Kilos> shoulda pm that methinks
[08:46] <Kilos> sorry
[08:46] <Kilos> at least let me pay the postage costs magespawn
[08:46] <magespawn> np
[08:47] <magespawn> lets see how much it is first, shouldn't be tha much
[08:49] <Kilos> address to cheryl du toit
[08:50] <magespawn> wilco
[08:50] <Kilos> ty so much
[09:07] <Kilos> kbmonkey, why so quiet, choked onna banana?
[09:09] <Squirm> morning
[09:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[09:15] <kbmonkey> no kilos lol
[09:16] <kbmonkey> I am doing morning chores and washing
[09:16] <Kilos> good man
[09:16] <kbmonkey> now I can look at some python a bit :)
[09:18] <Kilos> hehe
[09:18] <Kilos> alternates to google reader http://is.gd/W9XBi2
[09:18] <kbmonkey> I can't be bothered to watch videos online
[09:18] <Kilos> spose the pro has found one already
[09:19] <kbmonkey> :]
[09:19] <Kilos> he was most upset when they said google reader is closing down
[09:20] <magespawn> i never really got into using google reader
[09:21]  * magespawn is busy having a look at android courses http://is.gd/nHIlbz
[09:23] <Squirm> my PC didn't boot this morning :/
[09:24] <Squirm> but it seems right after a fsck
[09:25] <magespawn> hi Squirm
[09:26] <Squirm> hey magespawn
[09:44] <Vince-0> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/dbnlug/CrlJ8Hjt06s
[09:56] <Kilos> oh my Vince-0 i had to join you okes again
[09:56] <Kilos> sigh
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Kilos
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Vince-0
[09:58] <psychicist> hi zeref
[09:58] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[09:58] <psychicist> hi kbmonkey
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Squirm
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Georgl
[09:59] <psychicist> or georgelappies
[09:59] <Kilos> hehe
[09:59] <psychicist> hello magespawn
[10:00] <Kilos> im sure i joined before as well
[10:00] <georgelappies> lol hi psychicist
[10:02] <Kilos> Vince-0, who is the owner there. i wanna ask him to unpend me
[10:03] <magespawn> hey psychicist
[10:03] <magespawn> bbl got to go out for a bit
[10:27] <charl> good afternoon
[10:28] <Kilos> hi charl
[10:35] <Georgl> greetings everyone
[10:58] <Vince-0> Kilos: lemme seee
[10:58] <Kilos> not serious
[10:58] <Kilos> i mailed him
[10:58] <Vince-0> that'd be me
[10:58] <Kilos> haha
[10:59] <Kilos> so you got the mail then
[10:59] <Vince-0> done!
[10:59] <Kilos> i think it was a mail
[10:59] <Kilos> ty
[11:00] <Kilos> dunno what i did wrong but i ended up with another gmail account
[11:02] <Kilos> easier than trying to actually open one
[11:03] <Vince-0> My original Gmail got hacked and replaced, couldn't get it back
[11:03] <Vince-0> now I have 2 factor auth
[11:03] <Kilos> ai!
[13:05] <Squirm> had my plane up in the air today, I have long, glider like wing, so, I entered a thermal
[13:05] <Squirm> and blimey I went high
[13:12] <Kilos> and a safe landing as well?
[13:18] <Kilos> apart from being able to dodge trees that jump in front of you the most important part of flying is being able to land without crashing
[15:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:00]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:00] <Kilos> hi superfly have a cuppa
[15:03] <superfly> hi Kilos, thanks
[15:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:04] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[15:04] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[15:57] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[15:59] <nuvolari_> .
[15:59] <nuvolari_> *g*
[15:59]  * nuvolari_ peeks in
[16:00] <nuvolari> o.O Vince-0, when did that happen?
[16:02] <nuvolari> the what what? why the high number of ping timeouts?
[16:02] <nuvolari> I saw an announcement on g+ the other day that freenode got attacked :-/
[16:04] <nuvolari> fine.  That's something you install on your own server, though/
[18:36] <inetpro> that is pointless
[18:37] <inetpro> might as well just use Akregator
[18:37] <inetpro> then again I guess it's not entirely pointless
[18:38] <Kilos> http://is.gd/W9XBi2
[18:38] <Kilos> there are a few
[18:38] <inetpro> I know
[18:39] <Kilos> also what you doing about the tweet place
[18:39] <inetpro> of those that I gave tested newsblur comes closest to google reader IMHO
[18:39] <Kilos> birdie is growing quick
[18:39] <inetpro> birdie is not for kde
[18:39] <Kilos> can do multiple accounts already
[18:40] <Kilos> huh
[18:40] <confluency> It's not pointless if you already have a server.
[18:40] <inetpro> confluency: true
[18:41] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[18:41] <Kilos> hi confluency
[18:44] <confluency> 'Sup
[18:45] <Kilos> all good ty and there
[18:52] <nuvolari> eek
[18:52] <nuvolari> vergeet ek is nog hier ook
[18:52] <Kilos> what
[18:52] <nuvolari> oh hi confluency
[18:52] <Kilos> lol
[18:52] <nuvolari> ltnc
[18:52] <confluency> I'm always here; I just don't talk. ;)
[18:53]  * nuvolari watches his typing
[18:53] <nuvolari> :P
[18:53] <nuvolari> eyes might just catch stuff I say
[18:54] <nuvolari> eh? google reader. now there's a luxury - following up on feeds
[18:54] <nuvolari> I just end up clicking "Mark all as read" every 2 weeks :P
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:55] <nuvolari> Reddit became my latest news source, just bubbling up the most important links
[18:56] <nuvolari> I wonder how many people are in the same bot as I am. I only got upset on Google Reader's retirement as it was cool to have and it is taken away
[18:56] <nuvolari> but now that it's gone, I don't miss it
[18:56] <nuvolari> and I don't use the alternatives as much as I did before the official kill-date :P
[18:57] <nuvolari> it's like Oxygen: you only scrambe for more when you are running out of it
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: Thunderbird also works as a twitter client
[18:58] <Kilos> i use birdie
[18:58] <inetpro> just not very intuitive
[18:58] <nuvolari> twitter - another luxury :P
[18:59] <Kilos> i use it for meeting announce ments
[18:59] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night guys
[18:59] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos!  Gauteng is weer oorbevolk. Die bulle is terug aarde toe
[19:21] <nuvolari> :P
[19:21] <Kilos> haha
[19:58] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: nou al?
[19:58] <inetpro> dis nog nie 23:00 nie
[19:58] <Kilos> ja man dis koud hier
[19:59] <Kilos> hehe
[19:59] <inetpro> ai!
[19:59] <inetpro> goeie nag oom
[19:59] <Kilos> nag boetie
[20:25] <charl> Cantide: just listened to http://youtu.be/hgeAmF7bgoE
[20:25] <charl> that's world class music
[20:27] <Cantide> eh,
[20:27] <Cantide> i just cliked
[20:27] <Cantide> clicked *
[20:27] <Cantide> and saw it's Shinee...
[20:28] <Cantide> without even hearing it, i don't expect much :p
[20:28] <Cantide> hmm
[20:28] <Cantide> actually better than the last thing of theirs i saw :p
[20:28] <Cantide> this is more my style though -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XfXnFAUbA
[20:29] <charl> no idea, it's the first and only thing i ever heard
[20:29] <charl> of them
[20:29] <Cantide> oh, i heard one of their songs about a year or two ago, really hated it :p
[20:29] <charl> that girl has awesome legs!
[20:30] <charl> i don't know if i like all these koreans dying their hair
[20:31] <charl> are they trying to look like white people?
[20:31] <Cantide> i like them with dark hair..
[20:31] <Cantide> she looks a bit like HyunA with that dyed hair -.-
[20:31] <Cantide> eww
[20:31] <charl> yeah the asians don't have the natural variation in hair colour that westerners have
[20:31] <Cantide> yes, she does have nice legs :p
[20:31] <Cantide> yes, so i think they dye it to stand out
[20:32] <Cantide> but that colour is rather gross :p
[20:32] <charl> yeah it looks terrible on an asian
[20:32] <Cantide> yeah
[20:32] <Cantide> ah well :p
[20:32] <Cantide> 민아 will never do that because i will never permit it..
[20:32] <Cantide> maybe purple >_>
[20:33] <charl> oh that 민아 she is cute
[20:33] <charl> she is really cute !
[20:34] <Cantide> 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> wh.. who? 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> i was speaking about the 민아 that is mine '-';;;
[20:34] <Cantide> i doubt you've seen her 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> unless there is something i don't know haha
[20:35] <Cantide> which 민아 are you speaking of/
[20:35] <Cantide> ?
[20:35] <charl> http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%AF%BC%EC%95%84
[20:35] <charl> sorry wrong one then :P
[20:35] <charl> i just googled the name assumed it's an idol/artist
[20:36] <Cantide> oh yeah, she is cute :p
[20:36] <Cantide> but it's a different one '-';;;
[20:36] <Cantide> luckily~
[20:36] <Cantide> wouldn't want to date a singer haha
[20:36] <charl> :
[20:36] <charl> :D
[20:36] <charl> you got together with your korean girlfriend?
[20:36] <charl> or is it a new one?
[20:37] <Cantide> same one
[20:37] <Cantide> it's been on and off for a few months now lol
[20:37] <charl> ah i see, i thought you split up, but that's good to hear
[20:37] <Cantide> we've split up multiple times =_=
[20:37] <charl> :(
[20:37] <Cantide> usually if that happens i'd just walk away
[20:37] <Cantide> not sure what it is about this girl though..
[20:37] <Cantide> she seems to enjoy the pain :p
[20:38] <charl> shame :(
[20:38] <Cantide> ah, it's all good
[20:38] <Cantide> we'll be fine once i am there
[20:38] <Cantide> the distance is difficult for her
[20:38] <charl> that's understandable
[20:38] <Cantide> yeah
[20:39] <Cantide> i just hope i can get everything together in time
[20:39] <Cantide> the visa is quite a bit of work
[20:39] <Cantide> and i only have about 2 weeks to get my docs to Korea -.-
[20:46] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tell Kilos ya ya... good game stormers
[20:46] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[22:03] <kbmonkey> yello