[04:04] <dabaR> missing letters, standard thing...or goes all blue(in irssi) mostly noticeable in irssi, cause it goes bad when the content changes(often in an irc channel)
[04:04] <Xeromem> to install nvidia drivers
[04:04] <OneFootNinja> I have a question about ubuntu ShipIt!, if someone know anything about that...
[04:05] <Xeromem> 550 people in here and nobody knows how to close X
[04:05] <OneFootNinja> ~[ Xeromem ] ~ people might not be watching the channel right now
[04:05] <NoUse> Xeromem you want to restart X or stop it from running?
[04:05] <learn25> Help. How to make mysql listen to port 3306 so that i can connect remotely to my ubuntu 5.10 server?
[04:05] <Xeromem> i have to stop it, i need terminal only
[04:05] <nalioth> OneFootNinja: ask your question
[04:06] <Xeromem> to install some drivers
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> How long does it take to ship teh CDs from when we order them ?
[04:06] <pipeline> #debian :Cannot send to channel
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> *the
[04:06] <Xeromem> OneFootNinja, 1~2 months
[04:06] <NoUse> Xeromem which drivers?
[04:06] <Xeromem> nvidia display drivers
[04:06] <OneFootNinja> oh... well that's a long wait :)
[04:07] <NoUse> Xeromem why don't you use the apt packaged drivers?
[04:07] <bob2> learn25: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
[04:07] <Xeromem> is that up to date?
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> OneFootNinja: i just got Breezy cds, I'm stoked :D
[04:07] <NoUse> !tell Xeromem about nvidia
[04:07] <NoUse> Xeromem it works for me
[04:08] <jp4096> does anyone know which package(s) contain the header files for gcc ?
[04:08] <Xeromem> just tell me how i can stop x :)
[04:08] <bob2> jp4096: install build-essential, if you're trying to be able to compile basic C/C++ stuff
[04:09] <jp4096> Xeromem: usually CTRL-ALT backspace or CTRL-ALT delete to put you into text mode (I think) Then ALT F1 ALT F2 to switch virutal terminals.
[04:09] <Xeromem> ok thx
[04:09] <runedude> hey all
[04:09] <Xeromem> im gonna test it
[04:09] <runedude> I'm back.
[04:09] <runedude> Anyways, err
[04:09] <NoUse> Xeromem thats not it
[04:09] <NoUse> damn
[04:10] <runedude> I was wondering if anyone had a ACX100 working on Linux w/ WPA?
[04:10] <dabaR> bob2: switching between two screen terminals fixed it.
[04:10] <estupendocero> I want my secondary HD to mount on boot, but there's no /etc/vfstab. Should I create one, or is there something else I should do?
[04:11] <Neurosis> media/hda2
[04:11] <nekostar> bbiab restart of this X thing
[04:12] <dabaR> /etc/fstab?
[04:12] <estupendocero> oh yeah, duh
[04:12] <CarlF1> I just did "apt-get install hsftp" - how can I tell if it hung itself under a menu option?
[04:12] <estupendocero> thanks dabaR
[04:13] <dabaR> estupendocero: better question...what file is drive mount info stored in.
[04:13] <farruinn> CarlF1: I would check under applications>internet, but since it's from universe it may not have a .desktop file included
[04:14] <CarlF1> farruinn: so if there is no menu if there is no .desktop here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=hsftp&version=breezy&arch=i386
[04:15] <CarlF1> or could it be in one ofthe .gz files?
[04:15] <dabaR> CarlF1: very easy to make a menu icon.
[04:15] <CarlF1> dabaR - true, but If there is one I don't want to make a 2nd
[04:16] <kevmanZs> The ubuntu wiki is down?
[04:16] <morgs^^> ive decided to learn how to install deb packeges by command rather than be lazy with kpackage .....   what is the comand to install a deb package please???
[04:16] <dabaR> kevmanZs: did you ask this today already?
[04:16] <farruinn> CarlF1: yes, you can also check your installed apps with 'dpkg -L <package> | grep .desktop'
[04:16] <NoUse> kevmanZs it's not down
[04:16] <kevmanZs> Yes, and they told me to use the ubuntu.com wiki. But now that's down.
[04:16] <CarlF1> thanks
[04:16] <farruinn> morgs^^: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[04:16] <NoUse> kevmanZs no its not
[04:16] <learn25> How to check the version of my installed mysql server in ubuntu?
[04:16] <farruinn> morgs^^: but be careful, just because it's a deb package doesn't mean it's safe
[04:17] <farruinn> !apt-howto
[04:17] <ubotu> apt-howto is, like, at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[04:17] <Neurosis> anyone know if visualbasic for linux is any good?
[04:17] <CarlF1> anyone have a recommendation of a GUI sftp client?
[04:17] <dabaR> kevmanZs: it loads here.
[04:17] <kevmanZs> Then this 404 error when I click "wiki" is the wiki? 0_o
[04:17] <morgs^^> thankyou farruinn  ... yah   kpackage will usually tell me if its shite or not
[04:17] <hav0k> hey!  installing printers?  what's that all about
[04:17] <bimberi> learn25: dpkg -l mysql-server
[04:17] <dabaR> kevmanZs: do you know of pinging? you use ping www.blah.com to determine whether it can be reached on the Internet from where you are.
[04:17] <hav0k> can i use my driver cd to do that
[04:17] <dabaR> no
[04:17] <bimberi> hav0k: no
[04:18] <NoUse> kevmanZs send the URL that you are getting a 404 on
[04:18] <CarlF1> hav0k: hit "add printer" and follow the wizard
[04:18] <bimberi> hav0k: System -> Administration -> Printing
[04:18] <kevmanZs> Its Ubuntu's servers giving me the 404 error. An official Ubuntu server error message.
[04:18] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv
[04:18] <kevmanZs> http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/
[04:18] <Inchabod> wth
[04:18] <bimberi> kevmanZs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:18] <Inchabod> Gaim keeps randomly crashing.
[04:18] <Inchabod> without error.
[04:19] <mustard5> kevmanZs, its wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <Dersursine> whats a good sftp program for ubuntu?
[04:19] <dabaR> kevmanZs: i told him today already:)
[04:19] <kevmanZs> Then why does the link at the top point to it?
[04:19] <NoUse> Dersursine nautilus can do it
[04:19] <Dersursine> kk
[04:19] <NoUse> kevmanZs it doesn't
[04:19] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv
[04:19] <dabaR> kevmanZs: the topic?
[04:20] <kevmanZs> That's really odd... It must be my shitty ISp.
[04:20] <mustard5> kevmanZs, I don't know what link you are looking at....but its https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[04:20] <hav0k> cool, but, what if my printer is not on the list?
[04:20] <mustard5> kevmanZs, note the https not http
[04:20] <dabaR> both is fine.
[04:20] <kevmanZs> mustard5, if you go to ubuntu.com, the wiki link at the top points to the wrong place.
[04:21] <mustard5> kevmanZs, report to webmaster perhaps
[04:21] <kevmanZs> Yeah. But I got to make sure it isn't my ISP pulling caching shit first.
[04:21] <rmulliga> Hey has anyone had any trouble with Firefox coming up with xml errors when you try to access preferences or download things?
[04:22] <dabaR> isp does no such thing, kevmanZs ]
[04:22] <Neurosis> how can i brodcast my cam onto the net with xawtv?
[04:22] <dabaR> yopur browser on the other hand...
[04:22] <kevmanZs> its my school, really, dabaR.
[04:22] <NoUse> Neurosis I don't think xawtv is designed to do that
[04:22] <kevmanZs> They do really strange shit.
[04:22] <Neurosis> Darnit.
[04:22] <CarlF1> nautilus can do sftp?
[04:22] <kevmanZs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary?highlight=%28wlan%29 <- Does this still apply to Breezy?
[04:22] <NoUse> CarlF1 yeah
[04:22] <dabaR> hey, kevmanZs you ahve a point, that link is dead on the page....that is report wordthy
[04:23] <dabaR> worthy
[04:23] <bob2> rmulliga: restart it
[04:23] <kevmanZs> I can't my DNS just died.
[04:23] <bob2> rmulliga: firefox pukes if you upgrade it while it's running
[04:24] <farruinn> wow - anyone else experiencing this: both rhythmbox and amarok crash with memory errors when my iPod is connected
[04:24] <CarlF1> NoUse: I see ftp (public) and ftp (login) - how do I set sftp?
[04:24] <testme> can someone please do me a favor, and make a http request to  <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <testme>  -- I want to be sure my webserver isn't accessible beyond <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <dabaR> testme: ping yourself
[04:24] <rsosborn> Hello
[04:24] <rsosborn> need help linux noob
[04:25] <rsosborn> some reason when I install software it will not run
[04:25] <dabaR> enter your ip address into a browser.
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: eg.?
[04:25] <dabaR> testme: login to some other computer, and  ping yourself from there.
[04:25] <rsosborn> the Icons are there just won't run
[04:25] <rsosborn> samething happened with open office and limwire
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: and the software you installed was...
[04:25] <testme> I don't have any remote shells
[04:25] <rsosborn> any ideas ?
[04:25] <bob2> bah
[04:25] <robert__> what do I do if I want to wipe my hard drive and reinstall ubuntu
[04:25] <dabaR> testme: I gave you 2 more alternatives
[04:25] <Neurosis> whats a good program to brodcast my webcam on my own server
[04:25] <bob2> rmulliga: first, reconsider
[04:26] <bob2> bah
[04:26] <rmulliga> bob2: Thank you very much bob2
[04:26] <bob2> robert__: first, reconsider
[04:26] <bob2> rmulliga: working now?
[04:26] <NoUse> CarlF1 SFTp is the same as SSH
[04:26] <bob2> robert__: then boot the install cd
[04:26] <testme> when i put my IP in firefox i get a page
[04:26] <brenner> robert__: just use the installer
[04:26] <rmulliga> bob2: yea I just had to restart firefox
[04:26] <kestas> is there a way to upload songs to an ipod from ubuntu?
[04:26] <dabaR> testme: means it works
[04:26] <testme> #apache
[04:27] <testme> dabaR - what config file would restrict my apache2 to only <IP_ADDRESS>, do you know?
[04:28] <CarlF1> NoUse: got it!..  this is too cool.  thanks
[04:28] <dabaR> bob2: who do we tell about the dead link on the ubuntu.com site? the wiki link on the top is dead.
[04:28] <testme> (I thought firestarter was blocking it_
[04:28] <Dersursine> is it possible to set a keyboard shortcut for winkey-m to minimize everything? It tried the keyboard shortcuts manager and it wont let me do multipul keys
[04:28] <dabaR> rephrase'
[04:29] <testme> I don't want my apache2 to be publicly accessible - only or local testing - haven't found the way to have it NOT listen to the public address
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> testme, don't use port 80 then ... use another port
[04:29] <WebLOCH> testme, on the install guide it tells you how to stop that
[04:30] <brenner> kestas: : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto maybe?
[04:30] <rsosborn> Can someone give me a hand
[04:30] <rsosborn> or any ideas
[04:30] <rsosborn> seems like when I install programs they will not run
[04:30] <bimberi> Dersursine: what happens when you do <ctrl><alt><D>
[04:30] <Dersursine> let me try that
[04:30] <rsosborn> for example I dpkg openoffice 2.0 and when I click the icon it will not open
[04:30] <testme> does anyone offer a remote SSH shell with Lynx for cheap $$$ ? :)
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme,  sudo cp /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:31] <Dersursine> nothing when i do it, but i can set that as a shortcut
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme, change it to  <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, pls give the full command you did
[04:31] <bimberi> Dersursine: ah, that's usually "show desktop"
[04:31] <WebLOCH> testme, then it will only allow local connections
[04:31] <Dersursine> ah, its winkey-m on windows, which is what im used to :(
[04:31] <dabaR> WebLOCH: cp from that to what?
[04:31] <rsosborn> well first I did alien *.rpm
[04:31] <bimberi> Dersursine: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:31] <rsosborn> to convert the rpms to deb files
[04:31] <Dersursine> yup
[04:31] <dabaR> rsosborn: thats not how you install files.
[04:32] <rsosborn> hmmm
[04:32] <bimberi> Dersursine: unlearn! :)
[04:32] <WebLOCH> dabaR, I dont understand what you're askin ?
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, alien is eh ... discouraged ... btw openoffice 2 is in the repo why you need rpm ?
[04:32] <Dersursine> lol
[04:32] <testme> WebLOCH - doh! I didn't think it would take the IP since its called ports.conf... erk thanks!
[04:32] <Dersursine> I still have to use winblows everywhere else tho :(
[04:32] <dabaR> < WebLOCH> testme,  sudo cp /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[04:32] <rsosborn> anywhere i can look to show me how to install rpm's
[04:32] <rsosborn> I'm new to linux
[04:32] <rsosborn> and would like to learn
[04:32] <WebLOCH> dabaR, sorry meant gedit/nano/vi
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, get used to apt-get and synaptic
[04:32] <dabaR> rsosborn: install .debs, and only through synaptic is a good advice.
[04:33] <Dersursine> testme: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/security_tips.html
[04:33] <WebLOCH> testme, i didnt mean copy i meant edit
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> Dersursine, don't try to replace windows ... its a bad idea ... start everything new
[04:33] <rsosborn> right but the files only came in .rpm
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: a lot of work is put into making a good distribution, you might as well take advantage of it with apt
[04:33] <rsosborn> how to I install them
[04:33] <Dersursine> its a good read overall :-D, but it also talks about limiting what IP's can connect
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> rsosborn, system->admin->synaptic
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: what software are you trying to install?
[04:33] <testme> dabaR and WebLOCH - yes, I edited ports.conf and that fixed it, dumb name for the conf file...
[04:33] <bimberi> Dersursine: fair enough :), the shortcut is "Hide all windows and focus desktop"
[04:33] <farruinn> rsosborn: it's possible it's already in the ubuntu repository
[04:33] <rsosborn> office 2.0
[04:33] <Dersursine> yup, i found it, just wanted winkey to work :(
[04:33] <Dersursine> oh well, ctrl-alt-d is good
[04:34] <bimberi> Dersursine: btw, try windows-D under windows some time - does the same thing (show desktop)
[04:34] <Dersursine> ah
[04:34] <Dersursine> try winkey-m ^^
[04:34] <farruinn> rsosborn: openoffice.org2?
[04:34] <rsosborn> I guess the latest release of office
[04:34] <rsosborn> I thought it was called 2.0
[04:34] <testme> if it were called bind-address.conf it would be more intuitive than ports.conf that takes an IP, IMHO
[04:35] <dabaR> bimberi: wrong word underlined...shuld be work...
[04:35] <rsosborn> oh got it
[04:35] <farruinn> rsosborn: look under Applications>Office :)
[04:35] <farruinn> rsosborn: ok
[04:35] <rsosborn> I found it in synaptic manager
[04:35] <rsosborn> I will try to install from
[04:35] <rsosborn> there
[04:35] <rsosborn> when I installed before it appeared to have worked and was under applications
[04:35] <rsosborn> but when I click the icon it would not run
[04:35] <testme> anyway, thanks again. ciao!
[04:36] <bimberi> dabaR: lol yeah
[04:36] <dabaR> I dont get it how it is that people that switch from windows always are so impatient even with ubuntu's release cycles, to get new packages, in windows, you get a new version every five years.
[04:36] <Wonky> Hello.  Is anyone awake?
[04:37] <dabaR> is the tarek_bot1 annoying anyone else?
[04:37] <Dersursine> well........ 6months is only 10x better than 5 years...
[04:37] <apokryphos> dabaR: how?
[04:37] <dabaR> those were figurative
[04:37] <tarek> dabaR, why ?
[04:37] <dabaR> coming and going
[04:37] <intelikey> new version every five years is fine with me..... as long and it's not stamped with M$
[04:37] <Dersursine> id say they were pretty close
[04:37] <bimberi> dabaR: apart from join/leave-ing no
[04:38] <brenner> i think they hunger for apps and drivers though, not the entire OS
[04:38] <tarek> it's my bot to log entries in the channel, i have problems to configure it
[04:38] <fonesic> hi
[04:38] <dabaR> ok
[04:38] <Dersursine> hmm, i must not have join/leave's being shown, havent noticed it, or anyone else comming or going...
[04:38] <apokryphos> tarek: well, you shouldn't have it in here if it's gonna cause problems
[04:38] <ecobuntu> gdesklets are great
[04:38] <ecobuntu> i've never played with them before
[04:38] <spiderworm> hi all, im thinking about upgrading my hoary mythtv box to breezy, it also has nvidia 3d acceleration working, if i upgrade to breezy, do you guys think i will break the 3d accel and mythtv?
[04:38] <CaBlGuY> !pastbin
[04:38] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:38] <apokryphos> tarek: kind of wondering why you have a bot logging here when there's already, erm, two 8)
[04:38] <nuck> hi im installing an app which is dependent on a lib.  I have installed this lib but the installation of the other app still says the lib is still not available? how come? thanks
[04:38] <mustard5> CaBlGuY, you typoed
[04:39] <farruinn> nuck: did you install via apt-get?
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> sure did.. :p
[04:39] <tarek> apokryphos, it's not meant to cause problem, beside it's a bot that log multiple channels
[04:39] <CaBlGuY> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:39] <apokryphos> tarek: yes, but why would you want it to log *this* one?
[04:39] <nuck> farruinn no via synaptic
[04:39] <farruinn> tarek: there are so many people coming and going here, I don't even notice it
[04:40] <nuck> i stopped using the command line instller dpkg and apt-get when i got my hands on synaptic
[04:40] <farruinn> nuck: ok, same-same pretty much.  Do you get an error when trying to install the second package?
[04:40] <Dersursine> logging this channel must be a pain, theres a ton of stuff to go through, and it would take a LLOOOOTTT of space.
[04:40] <apokryphos> tarek: I don't really care if you do course 8), just don't see the logic.
[04:40] <tarek> apokryphos, is that a problem for you ?
[04:40] <nuck> yes im actually installing the openldap server slapd
[04:40] <nuck> farruinn
[04:40] <bimberi> tarek: in case you didn't know - http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:41] <nuck> its saying configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB not available
[04:41] <spiderworm> anybody know if upgrading from hoary to breezy breaks mythtv, nvidia 3d accel ?
[04:41] <nuck> farruinn when i have alrady installed libdb4.3
[04:41] <tarek> bimberi, thx, i know
[04:41] <bimberi> tarek: k :)
[04:42] <WebLOCH> hey guys
[04:42] <Wonky> GRUB INSTALL:  I'm following a dmraid wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but I'm running into problems running root (hd0,0).  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.
[04:42] <WebLOCH> anyone got any idea why my audio might not be working for an xvid in totem ?
[04:42] <nuck> farruinn i think the problem was it needed the libdb4.3-dev version it seems to be working now
[04:43] <biju> hi guys
[04:43] <farruinn> nuck: are you trying to build slapd or just install it via synaptic?
[04:43] <biju> anyone to help me out here with grub issues I am facing
[04:43] <Wonky> Hey, I'm having grub issues as well.
[04:43] <nuck> no im building it as well
[04:43] <Dersursine> ok, why is it that two applications take up the whole task bar after I have a few open and close them all?
[04:43] <nuck> farruinn
[04:43] <NoUse> biju ask your question
[04:44] <biju> Hi NoUse, let me send you the link I posted on the forum
[04:44] <NoUse> biju no I mean ask your question to the channel, if someone can help they will
[04:44] <bimberi> Dersursine: gee thanks, that's going to really annoy me now :P
[04:44] <farruinn> nuck: ah, that would be why. do 'apt-get build-dep <package>' before trying to build <package>
[04:45] <Dersursine> lol bimberi
[04:45] <dabaR> farruinn: wouldnt that have to mean the package is alredy in his list?
[04:45] <bimberi> Dersursine: dunno why tho :|
[04:45] <farruinn> dabaR: what do you mean?
[04:45] <nuck> farruinn but i dont use the apt-get command line tools anymore... have bad memories with them
[04:45] <Dersursine> ive tried everything I can think of and cant find a way to rresize it, other than limiting the entire taskbar's length
[04:45] <dabaR> well, can apt build-deps for a pckg that is not already in the package list?
[04:45] <biju> when I try to boot from hard disk, I just get a blank screen with GRUB, I dont even get the grub> promt
[04:46] <dabaR> nuck: but this one is on your screen
[04:46] <dabaR> biju: are you in ubuntu now?
[04:46] <farruinn> dabaR: he wanted to build slapd so he'd do 'sudo apt-get build-dep slapd' and it would install packages required to build slapd (does that ansewr the question?)
[04:46] <biju> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83285
[04:46] <biju> yes I am in ubuntu now
[04:46] <nuck> dabaR sorry didnt get what you meant by whats on my screen?
[04:46] <bimberi> Dersursine: they make room for new entries though, what's the expression? "it not a bug it's a feature"
[04:47] <dabaR> only if slapd is in his package list(through sources.list, otherwise apt would not know what deps to build
[04:47] <dabaR> biju: the apt command you need to use
[04:47] <dabaR> you dont have to remember it, copy and paste
[04:47] <Dersursine> lol, but this feature needs the ability to be disabled, it makes it look cluttered >.>
[04:47] <farruinn> nuck: hehe, well I always have a terminal window open so I find apt-get more convenient than waiting for synaptic
[04:47] <dabaR> nuck: and there is only so many of them...
[04:48] <farruinn> Dersursine: interesting, I have two windows open but they're not taking up the enter panel
[04:48] <farruinn> Dersursine: the buttons that is
[04:48] <Dersursine> open like 5 more, then close a few
[04:48] <dabaR> sometimes they do, sometimes not
[04:48] <biju> thanks for your help dabaR...
[04:48] <dabaR> anytime
[04:48] <biju> whats the command that I have to use?
[04:49] <farruinn> Dersursine: still not taking up the whole panel
[04:49] <GTroy_> what are some cool communications apps?
[04:49] <Dersursine> hmm, weird
[04:49] <dabaR> biju: sorry, that was meant for nuck
[04:49] <ecobuntu> what do i need to listen to mp3 with ubuntu?
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[04:49] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[04:49] <ecobuntu> i thought i just needed akode-mpeg?
[04:49] <dabaR> biju: you are in ubuntu through the live cd?
[04:49] <farruinn> Dersursine: what do you have maximum size set to under the "size" tab?
[04:49] <biju> yes, I actually used the suse cd to boot from the cd
[04:50] <intelikey> ecobuntu sox maybe?
[04:50] <Dersursine> 4096, when I changed it to 500, it seemed to limit the max size of all of the buttons combined
[04:50] <dabaR> biju: have you posted your /boot/grub/menu.lst on some pastebin?
[04:50] <ecobuntu> what's sox?  i've never installed that before
[04:50] <farruinn> Dersursine: odd, I have 4096
[04:50] <NoUse> !tell biju about grub
[04:50] <NoUse> biju try some of those links
[04:51] <Dersursine> Ya, I assume thats so it will fill the entire taskbar on any system and not have space that can't be utilized
[04:51] <intelikey> ecobuntu it's cli decoder for audio files   you probably want a gui package.
[04:51] <ecobuntu> i am using rhythmbox
[04:51] <ecobuntu> so i need to d/l cli decode?
[04:51] <dabaR> ecobuntu: for mp3s, the link is  posted above.
[04:52] <biju> thanks NoUse!
[04:52] <biju> I did go throught the first 2
[04:52] <learn25> Help: how to login with password in mysql? i got this message:
[04:52] <Dersursine> !cli
[04:52] <ubotu> hmm... cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[04:52] <learn25> learn25@cea:~$ mysql -u root
[04:52] <learn25> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[04:52] <learn25> learn25@cea:~$
[04:52] <DjKritical> Why would I get 'access denied' with a directory with these file permissions -> drwxrw-rw-
[04:52] <ecobuntu> i checked out ath wiki
[04:52] <farruinn> DjKritical: depends on the owner:group
[04:52] <farruinn> DjKritical: n/m
[04:52] <ecobuntu> but it's only talking about mp3s with k3b
[04:53] <LaserJock> ecobuntu: look under Codecs
[04:53] <Dersursine> learn25, you have to pass the root password as an argument. try 'man mysql' or 'mysql --help'
[04:53] <farruinn> DjKritical: I think the important parts would be --x--x--x
[04:53] <DjKritical> farruinn, but as far as I can tell.. that should be accessable to everyone?
[04:53] <intelikey> DjKritical you execute a dir to cd into it.....    dirs need +x
[04:53] <DjKritical> farruinn, isn't x just execute?
[04:53] <DjKritical> oh.. really?
[04:53] <mustard5> DjKritical, is it an ntfs partition mounted on that directory?
[04:54] <httpdss> learn25: did you assign a passwrd for root ??
[04:54] <DjKritical> mustard5, no plane old ext3
[04:54] <mustard5> yk
[04:54] <mustard5> k
[04:54] <binaryc> I have a 6.1 sound setup, how do I go about getting sound out of my rear channels (even if it is just mirrored from the front)
[04:54] <DjKritical> I thought execute meant execute scripts/applications...
[04:54] <learn25> yes
[04:54] <Dersursine> learn25, you have to pass the root password as an argument. try 'man mysql' or 'mysql --help'
[04:54] <DjKritical> ok I'd better change the umask on my ftp to 000 then :P
[04:54] <httpdss> then do mysql -u root -p
[04:55] <learn25> what's the command line to login with password
[04:55] <learn25> ok
[04:55] <Dersursine> wouldnt 000 deny the owner of the file as well?
[04:55] <dabaR> ecobuntu: impossible. it tells you the "codec" package and also talks about xmms.
[04:55] <Wonky> Hi Folks!  I've got a problem with grub.  I wonder if one of you could help me out.  Currently, I'm in the LiveDVD Ubuntu.  I'm following a dmraid wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but I'm running into problems running root (hd0,0).  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.
[04:55] <ecobuntu> i just saw that
[04:56] <ecobuntu> i installed akode-mpeg
[04:56] <thirso> what do i have to do to make ubuntu's grub default? (installed another dist)
[04:56] <ecobuntu> i see what i need to install now
[04:56] <dabaR> never heard of it.
[04:56] <DjKritical> Dersursine, umask is the oppisite.. umask 000 means chmod 777
[04:56] <dabaR> good
[04:56] <ecobuntu> how do you guys get libdvdcss?
[04:56] <dabaR> !dvd
[04:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2 which you can obtain by installing 'libdvdread3' and then running 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[04:56] <Dersursine> ah
[04:56] <sells> anyone know how to install limewire
[04:57] <dabaR> from the site.
[04:57] <ecobuntu> libdvdread3 didn't work for me last time...maybe it will this time...not sure
[04:57] <dabaR> ecobuntu: dont forget the second part.
[04:57] <learn25> Thanks guys!
[04:57] <learn25> The command to enter mysql with password is
[04:57] <learn25> mysql -u root -p
[04:58] <learn25> thanks
[04:58] <dabaR> thats the command to enter as root with a password.
[04:58] <learn25> i'm now logged in
[04:59] <ecobuntu> i see
[04:59] <ecobuntu> that makes sense
[04:59] <ecobuntu> it goes and d/l libdvdcss for me
[04:59] <ecobuntu> brillant
[04:59] <dabaR> hehe
[04:59] <binaryc> I have a 6.1 sound setup, how do I go about setting up alsa to get sound out of my rear channels (even if it is just mirrored from the front)
[04:59] <learn25> my last problem is how to make mysql 4.0 to be accessed remotely via port 3306
[04:59] <learn25> anybody?
[04:59] <ecobuntu> ubuntu is pretty good
[04:59] <ecobuntu> i am impressed overall with it
[05:00] <dabaR> learn25: probably already runs on that port. config files are in /etc/mysql/, read them
[05:00] <dabaR> it sucks.
[05:00] <dabaR> come on now..
[05:01] <bob2> dabaR<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:02] <biju> Hi guys, everything looks ok to me, only thing is that my /boot partition is beyond the 1024 cylinder
[05:02] <farruinn> anyone have any idea how I can get my user id number on my OS X partition w/o rebooting?
[05:02] <biju> does it have be the first partition?
[05:02] <nekostar> ok well i've a problem with window list and window switcher applets crashing with dual monitors..
[05:02] <sells> does anyone know where and how I can install LimeWire
[05:03] <bob2> biju: you don't need /boot partitions in the modern linux era
[05:03] <bob2> ie since 2001 or so
[05:03] <nekostar> anyone expreienced this // solved it?
[05:03] <nekostar> sells, www.google.com
[05:03] <sells> nekostar: cool
[05:03] <sells> nekostar: what about install directions
[05:03] <alexandros> sell: /opt
[05:03] <nekostar> how about www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:03] <misfit_toy> nekostar, I've only seen that when accessing SMB shares and having dual monitors...weird bug
[05:03] <biju> bob2, my system wouldnt boot from harddisk, I just get a blank screen with GRUB.  Shouldn't it be my slave?
[05:05] <nekostar> thanx misfit_toy .. bob2 huh? >.<
[05:06] <misfit_toy> nekostar, http://fedorasolved.com/viewtopic.php?t=157
[05:06] <bob2> estupendocero: hdb = first slave. why do you think it's a master?
[05:06] <biju> because, everything else looks OK to me..
[05:06] <intelikey> estupendocero raid ?
[05:06] <nekostar> the deal is sells they seem to be rather hard on filesharing here.. see if there is a #limewire or something like that sells
[05:06] <misfit_toy> nekostar, that's a pure ubuntu breezy xorg.conf there
[05:06] <estupendocero> no, not raid
[05:06] <LaserJock> dabaR: why? just curious
[05:06] <nekostar> thanx misfit_toy ill look :D o.O even betteh
[05:06] <sells> nekostar: thanks man
[05:06] <estupendocero> bob2, because it IS. when I mount it, it contains my root filesystem
[05:06] <dabaR> LaserJock: read what ubotu told you.
[05:06] <nekostar> though sells drop me a line if you figure it out :P
[05:06] <estupendocero> it's WEIRD. Reflects changes and everything
[05:06] <Wonky> Is anyone familiar with GRUB?  I've got some problems with root (hd,0) on a manual setup.  I'm getting Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  I'm following the dmraid wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[05:07] <bob2> estupendocero: you mean hdb1 appears to be the same partition as hda1?
[05:07] <intelikey> estupendocero sounds raid'd ?
[05:07] <LaserJock> dabaR: ok thanx, I don't use it personally but I didn't realize it was out of date
[05:07] <sells> nekostar: got it man
[05:07] <estupendocero> bob1, correct
[05:07] <dabaR> it is. I had a guy here with their sources.list(hoary) and a breezy system:)
[05:07] <nekostar> misfit_toy, think it might be the GLcore and the  dri loading?
[05:07] <estupendocero> intelikey, it better not be, that means I lost my backed up data
[05:08] <estupendocero> intelikey, could that have happened accidentally at install?
[05:08] <dabaR> sells: other than this limewire thing, dont use the ubuntuguide before asking whether it is correct.
[05:08] <misfit_toy> nekostar, if you have the nvidia drivers FROM NVIDIA, then likely
[05:09] <intelikey> yeah....  do a "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd? "   and see what things look like also check /.dev/
[05:09] <estupendocero> intelikey, I have no experience with RAID
[05:09] <bob2> estupendocero: that's surreal
[05:09] <estupendocero> bob2, I KNOW
[05:09] <nekostar> actually... you have twinview on too... i used nvidia-glx package from ubuntu.. but is that using 2 instances of x or one?
[05:09] <bob2> estupendocero: can you show us what "mount" says, in #flood?
[05:09] <estupendocero> sure
[05:09] <x86i> Minor question, more of a political question. Does anyone feel that using the 'server' option when installing is somehow lazy compaired to installing debian?
[05:10] <nekostar> i can do it easy and proper with just one instance of x and twinview... but im trying to make each monitor seperate and independant so i can maximize my video apps and get different resolutions on each
[05:10] <misfit_toy> nekostar, so you didn't install kernel specific nvidia drivers?
[05:10] <bob2> nekostar: so you just want two X servers?
[05:10] <dabaR> x86i: we think its a too complicated question to answer in one line. But, here it is - they have diff packages, so, its a different thing.
[05:11] <intelikey> estupendocero you can "stat /dev/hdb1 "  for a little more info about the inode, just incase it is a symlink or something.
[05:11] <misfit_toy> nekostar, I've never used the nvidia-glx package, I always run the nvidia drivers from scratch
[05:11] <bob2> x86i: not really...ubuntu makes a great server for some things; security supported new versions of postfix, posgresql and spamassassin every six months can be very handy
[05:11] <x86i> thank you dabaR, thats kind of how I feel.. I like Ubuntu, and I think it should be used in all aspects, since like you said, its different.
[05:12] <nekostar> kernel specific drivers? nope... i made seperate configs for single and dual X servers... then merged em so i could try switiching b/t server configurations... which didnt work yet.. though ive some good clues... and ive no idea how to run from scratch unless you mean self compiled... in which case im still learning about all that :D
[05:12] <estupendocero> intelikey, nope, the inodes are different... I'll post in flood
[05:12] <x86i> The reason for asking, is I caught some flakk from debian users for putting ubuntu on some of my newly published servers.
[05:12] <x86i> I just wanted to know why the animosity
[05:12] <sells> dabaR: what exactly are you talking about man
[05:14] <tescoil> Gimp 2.2 is acting (well, in light of years of experience with prior versions) very *weird*.
[05:14] <bob2> hah
[05:14] <Wonky> Is anyone familiar with GRUB?  I've got some problems with root (hd0,0) on a manual setup.  I'm getting Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  I'm following the dmraid wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto         What do I need to do to get grub to recognize the /boot?
[05:14] <dr_willis> Ive always heard Gimps are weird. :P
[05:15] <tescoil> I took a screenshot, cropped it, and the image, um, stays exactly where it's at when I move the viewing window.
[05:15] <tescoil> I don't know if that description conveys.
[05:16] <bob2> tescoil: it's like the image is glued to the screen?
[05:16] <brenner> x86i: animosity from debian folk is nothing new in my experience
[05:16] <tescoil> Sort of, I guess.
[05:16] <bob2> x86i: some debian users really do like debian
[05:16] <bob2> x86i: i'm sure your ubuntu users will bitch when you move to sco unix
[05:16] <x86i> true, but to say its lazy. I guess its that 'leet' club thing again.
[05:17] <ecobuntu> what does vanilla kernel mean?
[05:18] <tescoil> bob2: the image stays at the same screen geometry.  As I change the position of the viewing window, it disappears until I move it back to the position of the image.
[05:18] <bob2> tescoil: uh, that's surreal
[05:18] <bob2> ecobuntu: depends on the context
[05:18] <tescoil> bob2: and not very productive.
[05:18] <misfit_toy> ecobuntu, vanilla = plain, untouched, usually
[05:18] <bob2> ecobuntu: it often means "a kernel from kernel.org", that is, vanilla in the sens of not being modified by distributions
[05:18] <ecobuntu> ok
[05:19] <bob2> ecobuntu: it could also mean "unchanged ubuntu kernel"
[05:19] <x86i> vanilla, IE not chocolate.
[05:19] <bob2> hm, which I had some chocolate
[05:19] <bob2> ie a cherry ripe ;)
[05:19] <x86i> All I've got are brownies.
[05:19] <misfit_toy> brownies!!!
[05:19] <x86i> poor me.
[05:20] <x86i> lol
[05:20] <misfit_toy> with or without nuts?
[05:20] <misfit_toy> with or without icing?
[05:20] <x86i> Well, I did half with nuts
[05:20] <misfit_toy> HOMEMADE BROWNIES???? sheesh....you are da man
[05:20] <x86i> half with extra hersheys kisses
[05:21] <tescoil> bob2: okay, this applies only to the screenshot I took.
[05:21] <tescoil> other images are fine.
[05:21] <x86i> yeah, I don't like premade brownies. They are hardly every perfect, unless you get it right from a bakery, and eat it right then
[05:22] <nekostar> hey thanx misfit_toy i think i might have that beat... only time can tell though :D
[05:22] <x86i> tescoil: I've had that happen before as well. Gimp right?
[05:23] <estupendocero> bob2, thanks for the help, I'm going to cautiously access my data now
[05:23] <poningru> is planet ubuntu down?
[05:23] <nekostar> apparently having 2 full configs in one config file using and not using things like twinview can be er bad <.<
[05:23] <tescoil> x86i. yeah, 2.2.  It appears to be something to do with layering.
[05:23] <bob2> estupendocero: hah, np
[05:23] <misfit_toy> nekostar, best of luck
[05:23] <bob2> poningru: everything in the DC seems to be very slow today
[05:23] <louis_> praise the lord
[05:23] <x86i> tescoil: I think it might have the original layer thats transparent on. Also, what resolution is the screen shot?
[05:24] <tescoil> x86i, 1280x1024, which is larger than I'm accustomed.
[05:25] <poningru> bob2: yeah it hasnt loaded for me in a while
[05:25] <bob2> poningru: loads here, but very slowly
[05:25] <x86i> tescoil: Hrm. The only thing I can suggest is to copy the screenshot, via the COPY command, and open anew then paste
[05:27] <x86i> I was very suprised. I ran outta candy last night, so I started giving out brownies. I wasn't sued. Amazing
[05:27] <tescoil> x861, mm, I selected the image area, copied, and pasted as new.   Its either give up the goods, or have a brick in the window
[05:28] <bob2> hah
[05:29] <Tatsuya> or tp in your trees
[05:29] <bob2> I feel like we should start an Annual Free Candy Day on oct 31st here
[05:29] <x86i> where is here bob2?
[05:30] <bob2> .au
[05:30] <x86i> ah
[05:30] <x86i> yeah, candy is the universal translator
[05:30] <bob2> halloween here is an excuse to have fancy dree parties, that's all
[05:31] <louis_> hey how do I install a program
[05:31] <x86i> especially chewy candy. Can't get mad at someone with a mouthful ( I am aware that could be taken the wrong way, but I digress )
[05:31] <louis_> like yahoo
[05:31] <tritium> what's dree, bob2 ?
[05:31] <drcode> hi all
[05:31] <x86i> louis_: I beleive your looking for a program called GAIM
[05:31] <Tatsuya> I wont have holloween ever again now that Im moving to japan
[05:31] <bob2> tritium: hm, "dress" when my fingers fall asleep
[05:32] <tritium> heh :)
[05:32] <drcode> any one know free web housting for PHPNUKER , I Can load
[05:32] <Tatsuya> at least thier will be sakura festival
[05:32] <Waffles> Hi
[05:32] <drcode> I Mean that give php and mysql free housting ?
[05:32] <bob2> and Akihabra
[05:32] <Tatsuya> lol
[05:32] <Waffles> how do i load kxdocker?
[05:32] <x86i> What? Japanese don't need candy, or halloween. For an outsider, the fun is in playing all the games they have there
[05:33] <necator> hi guys
[05:33] <necator> i downloaded crossover office free trial and i dont know how to install this file =(
[05:33] <x86i> Watch something come out there, and then 10 years later, watch the US try to spin it off as "new cartoons"
[05:33] <necator> do i do some terminal coommand to make it run?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> necator: what type of file is it?
[05:34] <Tatsuya> lol i get them new already, like 3 days after they come out over there
[05:34] <necator> ends in .sh
[05:34] <lajuj> I can't seem to find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9-386
[05:34] <louis_>  can someone help me get my printer scanner copier working
[05:34] <necator> its the free trial download for crossover hobbsee
[05:35] <Hobbsee> necator: i realise that, but what is the file extension of the file?  is it a deb file?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[05:35] <x86i> I just love how the US is acting like Pokemon and all those other crap series are 'new'
[05:35] <Antioch> What port does the xserver run on? Im trying to run x programs through ssh...
[05:35] <intelikey> Hobbsee <necator> ends in .sh
[05:36] <misfit_toy> Antioch, use ssh -Y
[05:36] <dooglus> when was kernel 2.6.12 first released?
[05:36] <dooglus> is there a kernel history document anywhere perhaps?
[05:36] <intelikey> necator try ". <file>.sh "
[05:36] <dooglus> lajuj: install package "linux-source" to get it
[05:37] <bob2> dooglus: good question, one sec
[05:37] <Antioch> misfit_toy,  thanks!
[05:37] <x86i> dooglus: http://ftp.cdut.edu.cn/pub2/linux/kernel/history/Master.html
[05:38] <dooglus> x86i: fine work sir.  how did you find that?
[05:38] <necator> says permission denied
[05:38] <x86i> dooglus: Googled "Kernel History" it was the first item.
[05:38] <hussam> i'
[05:38] <Hobbsee> necator: preface it with sudo
[05:39] <x86i> It seems to stop at 2000 though
[05:39] <necator> command not found says
[05:39] <Hobbsee> necator: you're in the right directory?
[05:39] <hussam> I'm doing dpkg-reconfigure postfix. it's asking "where should mail for root go to"?
[05:39] <hussam> what do I answer?
[05:40] <dooglus> x86i: yes, so I see :)  I'm trying to write a stroppy email to win4lin about how they've stopped supporting win4lin
[05:40] <dooglus> x86i: the 2.6.12 kernel has been available for a long time & they don't support it yet.  I was wanting to say how long it's been
[05:40] <necator> yes
[05:40] <x86i> hussam: I believe you put the alias of the email address you want root stuff to go.
[05:40] <necator> how do i run a sh file?
[05:40] <intelikey> . file.sh
[05:40] <johnw> how do you remove an application (like bind for example)
[05:40] <johnw> ?
[05:40] <Tristan9669> I auto mounted two ntfs partition, but now they show up on the desktop, how do I remove it and just keep it in "computer"?
[05:41] <x86i> dooglus: Im sure if you google it, and look through all the sites, they will have more detailed infor
[05:41] <Hobbsee> johnw: sudo apt-get remove programname
[05:41] <johnw> hobbsee: thank you
[05:41] <farruinn> Tristan9669: right-click the icons on your desktop>unmount volume
[05:41] <Antioch> misfit_toy,  do you know how I can fix this error? *WARNING* Atr: Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual
[05:41] <pickett> what do you type to get your cpu temp?
[05:41] <Aven> hi :)
[05:41] <hussam> x86i: in /etc/aliases there's root:hussam, so I enter hussam?
[05:41] <misfit_toy> Antioch, no idea
[05:41] <Aven> How are we?
[05:41] <GURT> how do i make the calendar in Clock start on sunday and not monday?
[05:42] <Tristan9669> farruinn, I did but It says unable to unmount the selected volume.
[05:42] <x86i> hussam: I believe so, if not, put an email address
[05:43] <intelikey> GURT in the pereferances.  maybe right click on the clock, or look in the menu.
[05:43] <GURT> tried that
[05:43] <farruinn> Tristan9669: in your /etc/fstab does the partition have the users optin set?
[05:43] <tritium> GURT, you're right...there appears to be no way to do that.  How silly!
[05:43] <rixth> What can I use to capture .asx streams?
[05:44] <misfit_toy> rixth, streamtuner?
[05:44] <intelikey> language/time/date settings..... is where to find it.
[05:44] <rixth> misfit_toy, I forgot to say. it is a video stream
[05:44] <bob2> rixth: mplayer
[05:44] <nemik> hello
[05:45] <rixth> Waiting for the XMMS plugin to start playback of 'http://www.asxvideos.com/asx.php?id=9684'.
[05:45] <nemik> so how would i disable the 'screensaver' (going to black) on the base server install of ubuntu?
[05:45] <rixth> I get nothing, no audio, no video
[05:45] <louis_> look i need some videos
[05:45] <louis_> some stuff
[05:45] <louis_> some audio
[05:45] <tritium> GURT, now that's going to bug me to no end...
[05:45] <bob2> rixth: look at that page
[05:46] <GURT> join the club
[05:46] <GURT> :)
[05:46] <intelikey> nemik that would be in the bios settings.
[05:46] <bob2> rixth: it may be redirecting or doing javascript crap
[05:46] <Tristan9669> Does anyone know how to remove auto-mounted partition icons from the desktop?
[05:47] <tescoil> Ha, Ha.  <http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/testpix/index.html> Check out the name of the sixth photo from the top.
[05:47] <nemik> itelikely, really? the power management? i'll look into it, i thought it may have been something on the base install config. thank you!
[05:47] <louis_> where do i get audio and video
[05:47] <louis_> downloads
[05:48] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I cant even find the Language/time/date settings. :P
[05:48] <rixth> bob2, after digging through 4 redirects, I finally find the real file
[05:48] <bob2> rixth: hah
[05:49] <rixth> bob2, how do I output to a file?
[05:49] <Tristan9669> anyone??
[05:49] <bob2> rixth: mplayer -streamdump
[05:49] <intelikey> dr_willis so the language can't be changed on ubuntu ?
[05:49] <x86i> lol bob2, I thought that said 'steamydump'
[05:49] <starscalling> o: i think i cant mess with certain things like the properties of the window switcher unless they are both on the same number desktop... which kinda sux,
[05:50] <rixth> bob2, thanks!
[05:50] <dr_willis> intelikey,  No.. it can. someone said to change the calender to show Sunday as the start of the week. its in the Languages/Time/Date settings.. :P that I cant even find. I found a 'language selection' preferance item
[05:50] <rixth> Unknown option on the command line: -streamdump
[05:50] <rixth> . Is my package borked or were you kidding?
[05:51] <DShepherd> how do I check the uptime of my machine
[05:51] <DShepherd> ?
[05:51] <dabaR> DShepherd: did you try runing uptime in a terminal?
[05:51] <Pablo> uptime
[05:51] <Pablo> type uptime at cl
[05:51] <DShepherd> ah,,,makes sense
[05:51] <Pablo> :P
[05:51] <nuck> whats the command to print the version of an installed application?
[05:52] <x86i> DShepherd: Set an eggtimer on top of the machine, reset everytime it runs out, and log it.
[05:52] <bob2> rixth: dumpstream, it seems
[05:52] <bob2> nuck: dpkg -l blah
[05:52] <nuck> thanks bob2
[05:52] <intelikey> dr_willis and there is no settings in the language selection area to set output of time and date and other numbers like money ?
[05:52] <rixth> there we go, thank you
[05:53] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Language Seectuin area Where at? Looking in the System/Perferances Menu are and SYstem/Admin menus  for anything withlanguage.. only thing i found lets me select what language to use.
[05:54] <dr_willis> intelikey,  Time & Date settings Tool - dont let me change the day the week starts at. That i can see.
[05:54] <tescoil> If I ever do my own distro, I think I'll take the version names from atomic bomb tests.  v5.3 "Operation Teapot"
[05:55] <x86i> tescoil: Really? I'd do mine after infectious diseases.
[05:56] <dr_willis> I'd name mine after Porn Stars.
[05:56] <dr_willis> :P
[05:56] <tescoil> x86i, that'd be appropriate for versions of Visual Basic.
[05:56] <nekostar> nope thats not it either
[05:56] <x86i> Did they fix some of the issues with KDE?
[05:57] <DShepherd> how much space does the ubuntu default install takes up?
[05:57] <p0wermac> zero, i use the live distro :p
[05:57] <rixth> bob2, I like this once it was done:
[05:57] <rixth> everything done. Thank you for downloading a media file containing proprietary and patentend technology.
[05:57] <laszlok> x86i: which issues?
[05:58] <DShepherd> nm...I'll google
[05:58] <iiiears> should we rixth some "FLAC" - lol
[05:58] <x86i> laszlok: I remember hearing about some install problems, and lockups
[05:58] <bob2> rixth: haha
[05:58] <intelikey> DShepherd between 2 & 3 gig.   not sure exactly.    server is like 300m
[05:58] <robitaille> DShepherd,  around 2Gb, give or take
[05:58] <DShepherd> oh thanks
[05:58] <DShepherd> :)
[05:58] <bob2> streaming FLAC is pretty hardcore
[05:58] <laszlok> x86i: for KDE 3.4 or 3.5?
[05:59] <rixth> iiiears, I'm not an audiophile- so to me- lossless is pointless. I ca't tell the difference between a 160kpbs mp3 and a 320one.
[05:59] <intelikey> DShepherd server is non-GUI  you know.
[05:59] <x86i> laszlok: I'm not sure, think it was 3.4. I prefer Gnome, but I was just curious if the KDE version was ok
[05:59] <iiiears> rixth - honestly neither can i.
[05:59] <DShepherd> intelikey: yeah I have read,,,,by defualt...no desktop
[06:00] <laszlok> no the default kubuntu install is fine, its the kde 3.5 beta packages you should worry about
[06:00] <intelikey> hhehhe "no desktop"  :)      6 consoles beets one desktop any day...
[06:00] <necator> i downloaded a gdm theme just now how do i install it ?
[06:01] <x86i> laszlok: Ah, that must be what I've been hearin about
[06:01] <necator> its filename is 30846-blueswirl.tar.bz2
[06:01] <x86i> intelikey: In a gui, you can have hundres of terms :P
[06:01] <x86i> hundreds*
[06:01] <intelikey> no only 128 same as in console mode.
[06:02] <dooglus> x86i: in a console you can have hundreds of terminals too :)
[06:02] <intelikey> openvt bash
[06:02] <x86i> shh
[06:02] <x86i> leave my unsupported arguement alone
[06:02] <intelikey> lol
[06:02] <dooglus> x86i: or you can do what I do: use GNOME, but only run 1 window:  Emacs.
[06:02] <dr_willis> Hmm.. dident i see once a way to make the gnome file manager Not use the "buttons" path like interface.. and use a normal Path interface...
[06:03] <dr_willis> this little < [home] [porn] [redhead]  [cheerleader]      - type path tool is getting on my nerves. :P
[06:03] <dooglus> dr_willis: type control-l I think
[06:03] <intelikey> necator "tar -xjvf 30846-blueswirl.tar.bz2 ; cd 30846-blueswirl ; ls "   start with that and read anything in uppercase.
[06:03] <dr_willis> AHA! thats it. :P
[06:03] <dooglus> l for location
[06:03] <x86i> dr_willis: Please make a torrent. kthx.
[06:03] <dr_willis> lol - i thought there was a way. :P
[06:03] <dr_willis> x86i,  :P
[06:04] <dr_willis> even my wife can understand the idea of a path - and shes not big on computers.
[06:04] <DShepherd> trust me, I have been a windows use for almost for about 6 years...I started being interested in linux about 2 years ago. Installed ubuntu about a month ago and man....I cant believe I have been missing out on so much
[06:04] <DShepherd> sorry to be off-topic
[06:04] <iiiears> more choices for gnome is good - but buttons are okay with me
[06:04] <dooglus> dr_willis: even if you don't understand a path, how on earth does a row of buttons make it easier?
[06:04] <x86i> DShepherd: You werent missing much until Ubuntu came out :P
[06:05] <dr_willis> dooglus,  NO clue there. other then it makes it easy tojump back a few dir
[06:05] <dooglus> DShepherd: what are the biggest 3 things you were "missing out on" would you say?
[06:05] <tescoil> "GNOME was the first nuclear test in the Plowshare Program. The Plowshare Program objectives were to determine how energy produced from nuclear explosions could be used for peaceful or civilian purposes."  (!)
[06:05] <iiiears> lol - debian was moving pretty slow before knoppix and ubuntu lit a fire
[06:05] <dr_willis> the ctrl-L thing makes it mor enormal - but it dosent stay that way. :(
[06:06] <DShepherd> dooglus: the power to do so much
[06:06] <intelikey> debian isn't the only distro
[06:06] <x86i> iiiears: I know right? Everyone that I know uses debian in some form or another, and the hardcore users are up in arms about Ubuntu, and I just reply with that exact same thing
[06:06] <iiiears> nah - but package mANAGEMENT IS MILES AHEAD OF RPMS
[06:06] <Wonky> I wonder if someone could help me out.  I'm having problems with installing grub.  I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto but when I try root (hd0,0) I get Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7.  But it's ext2, so what do I need to do to get grub to recognize /boot?
[06:06] <DShepherd> dooglus: for example dd, a super command,,,,, and it was already sitting there in linux
[06:07] <x86i> dd?
[06:07] <DShepherd> dooglus: while you have to buy this and do that...
[06:07] <DShepherd> x86i: man dd
[06:07] <DShepherd> dooglus: in windows
[06:07] <dooglus> DShepherd: could you give concrete examp - oh, ok.  so you use 'dd' to make .iso files from a CD?  that's one.  name 2 more please?
[06:07] <intelikey> x86i doesn't know dd .          somebody kill that user.
[06:08] <x86i> hrm
[06:08] <x86i> I've never had to use dd
[06:08] <x86i> sue me
[06:08] <x86i> :P
[06:08] <intelikey> $50m see ya in coart
[06:09] <Wonky> Any ideas?
[06:09] <x86i> Yeah, lemme just pony that right up. OH LOOK, I file for bankrupcy and move to Japan
[06:09] <dooglus> I used dd yesterday to make a 4gb blank file:   dd if=/dev/zero of=disk.img bs=1024k count=4096
[06:09] <DShepherd> dooglus: like working with GUI.....sometimes the need arises and I need too go stricly command line
[06:09] <x86i> dooglus: lol why?
[06:09] <DShepherd> dooglus: windows not that powerfull
[06:10] <intelikey> Wonky sorry i'm about grub illiterate and raid unlearned as they come.
[06:10] <DShepherd> dooglus: and 3
[06:11] <dooglus> x86i: I wanted to make an encrypyed data DVD.  the 4Gb file will be burnt to the DVD once it's full of encrypted secretnesses (where secretnesses == "/home/porn/redhead/cheerleader")
[06:11] <Wonky> Thanks for your response, intelikey.  I'll keep looking around.
[06:11] <x86i> ah
[06:11] <Arinux> hey all
[06:11] <x86i> make a torrent. kplzthx
[06:11] <Toma-> dooglus: lol
[06:11] <dr_willis> dooglus,  you fiend!
[06:12] <dr_willis> :P
[06:12] <DShepherd> dooglus: using linux have taught me more my system that windows ever did. It seemed transparent, Like I was really in control. Maybe that's the aim for windows...but linux gives you options...
[06:12] <x86i> funny... there seems to be a mismatch between /home/porn/redhead/ and /home/porn/blonde/
[06:12] <dooglus> x86i: talking of torrents, would you believe that it is more memory efficient to run bitcomet-inside-windows-inside-win4lin than it is to run azureus?
[06:13] <dooglus> that's right - it takes less memory to run the whole of windows PLUS bitcomet than it does to run azureus on its own!  :)
[06:13] <x86i> dooglus: all I know is Azureus dos's my cable modem.
[06:13] <tomaj> how do you get the archive manager to work with rar files?
[06:13] <x86i> It is horrible with packets
[06:14] <Toma-> dooglus: thats because it uses java... use the bittorrent client that comes with gnome
[06:14] <x86i> dooglus what about bitcomet using the win32 binary?
[06:14] <dooglus> I think azureus and bitcomet are the only 2 clients to work well with distributed hashtable databases
[06:14] <GigaClon> any get epsxe working on Linux?
[06:14] <Toma-> GigaClon: yep
[06:14] <dooglus> Toma-: the gnome bittorrent doesn't use dht to my knowledge, meaning it's screwed once a tracker goes down
[06:14] <iiiears> dooglus - How does Win4Lin compare to Cedega in performance?
[06:14] <x86i> I assume thats a PSX emulator
[06:14] <dooglus> iiiears: I never got cedega to work
[06:14] <DShepherd> dooglus: I still very new to linux and the things that I can do ... man...its sweet. Dont get me wrong, Linux is not for everybody, well not now, neither is windows
[06:16] <dooglus> DShepherd: so 1. useful tools are available for free, 2. the command line is powerful, 3. it's an eduction?
[06:16] <x86i> I only use windows for 3 things. Cutting edge games ( which seem less and less cutting edge these days ). Applications that only work in windows. and Viral amusement.
[06:16] <DShepherd> dooglus: pretty much
[06:17] <dooglus> DShepherd: fair enough.
[06:18] <DShepherd> dooglus:  ubuntu is that plus more :)
[06:18] <x86i> I like linux for its user security, file management, and extensive software packages
[06:18] <tescoil> x86i, I only use windows when I'm fixing the problems it created for someone else.
[06:18] <DShepherd> dooglus: the community rocks
[06:18] <iiiears> Windows is for games. - No need to put it on the wild wild web it will be infected in a fewer hours than it took to install..
[06:19] <x86i> tescoil: lol I just reformat most windows problems for people. I dont even try to troubleshoot them anymore
[06:19] <intelikey> why do i like/use linux, one word "EULA".  enough said.
[06:19] <DShepherd> x86i: lol
[06:19] <Arinux> hey what are these 386 , 586 , 686 etc
[06:19] <Alister> hello
[06:19] <x86i> Most EULA's wont hold up in court anyway
[06:19] <x86i> so
[06:20] <iiiears> x86i - No kidding reinstall from a disk image in less than 20 mins. most virus adware scans take longer.
[06:20] <x86i> Yep
[06:20] <dooglus> I just moved a file from one partition to another, then noticed that the file is still open.  I want to move it back before closing the file so I get the updates that get written when I close it.
[06:20] <dooglus> can I?
[06:20] <x86i> Norton Ghost is a wonderful produect
[06:20] <x86i> product*
[06:20] <DShepherd> x86i: so is dd :)
[06:20] <x86i> Im talking for windows
[06:20] <iiiears> x86i - norton ghost is fine. - i like Acronis a little better.
[06:21] <Toma-> ontv gnome applet is the greatest thing evar.
[06:21] <dooglus> x86i: you can get dd for windows :)
[06:21] <DShepherd> x86i: with a live cd you can
[06:21] <jlb> hi
[06:21] <x86i> Well, I like to make people buy Norton Ghost, if Im helping them. Allows me to charge more.
[06:21] <intelikey> Arinux processor archatecture   intel 80x68
[06:21] <jlb> is anyone using gdesklets?
[06:21] <nuck> anyone know a simple and easy to install ldap server for ubuntu? thanks
[06:21] <intelikey> err 86
[06:21] <Arinux> okay so intel centrino comes under which one?
[06:21] <Toma-> Arinux: 686
[06:21] <DShepherd> x86i: man....remind me not to come to you for help
[06:22] <iiiears> DSheperd - dd doesn't mange the mbr very well from what i have heard.
[06:22] <x86i> Arinux: 686
[06:22] <jlb> i'm trying to run gdesklets on separate workspaces
[06:22] <Arinux> okay so i should install kernel for i686 right
[06:22] <x86i> DShepherd: Most of these people make 70+k/year, I have no problems with charging more.
[06:22] <jlb> but the applets run on every single one and i'm trying to limit them
[06:22] <DShepherd> x86i: ok
[06:22] <jlb> to one workspace
[06:22] <tescoil> Has MS got a true 64-bit OS out yet?
[06:22] <DShepherd> tescoil: define true
[06:22] <Toma-> Arinux: yeh... it doesnt really matter whole lot between them all, its just optimised for the specific type. not much speed difference at all really
[06:22] <x86i> lol
[06:22] <jlb> does anyone know where i could find an answer?
[06:22] <intelikey> Arinux yes
[06:23] <tescoil> I'm not keeping track.
[06:23] <x86i> The os is 64bit, but most of the applications aren't
[06:23] <FR500> does insalling the i686 kernel affect performance?
[06:23] <DShepherd> FR500: it should
[06:23] <Arinux> okay and what about this new vanilla kernel?
[06:23] <jlb> hello
[06:23] <x86i> Yes, I believe it adds some of the... don't quote me, CPU features like MMX etc
[06:23] <x86i> and yes, I know MMX is basic cpu stuff
[06:24] <intelikey> Arinux any x86 will work on that thing.   it is just optimization
[06:24] <DShepherd> FR500: I dont know for sure..I have installed it myself
[06:24] <iiiears> FR500 - it may but i haven't noticed any speed increase.
[06:24] <jlb> hi i need help
[06:24] <FR500> oh cool
[06:24] <Arinux> okay because i am using the 2.12 kernel , and not good system performance
[06:24] <DShepherd> FR500: you can google though to see what enhancements you get
[06:24] <x86i> I sure know that installing 686 without SMP really does effect performance on a multi-cpu machine :P
[06:24] <intelikey> no
[06:24] <intelikey> 2.6.12
[06:24] <FR500> i hope it makes xmame run better since on m$ it flies...  crappy vid card and no drivers for me :(
[06:25] <intelikey> there is no linux 2.12  yet.
[06:25] <Arinux> did any try the new americas army version 2.5
[06:25] <x86i> Thats the problem with windows, its got all the hotchicks with the games.
[06:25] <Arinux> i mean 2.6.12
[06:25] <jlb> hi i'm trying to run gdeslets applets on seprate workspaces
[06:26] <Toma-> Arinux: if youre gonna build your own kernel, make sure you use /boot/config-<oldnumber> in the .config file
[06:26] <FR500> i think i had better performance with the vesa driver than dri drivers once...
[06:26] <DShepherd> x86i: thats a problem :)
[06:26] <Arinux> ya this is my first time lets see how it comes up
[06:27] <Toma-> Arinux: its beter to keep away from building your own kernel. usually kills your system or runs slower
[06:27] <x86i> unless you know what your doing
[06:27] <nekostar> ninie
[06:28] <Arinux> well i think linux is the best hack for a system , so let me try getting in and explore
[06:28] <Antioch> What port does the xserver run on?
[06:28] <morgs^^> what is libwxgtk2.4?   dvd styler wants it , but i installed a newer version an synaptics says you have broken files ... what is this file ?
[06:28] <iiiears> built my own kernel once to make it smaller faster better. - Had to back it up to a DVD - lol
[06:28] <Arinux> lol
[06:28] <Arinux> well try try and u will succed
[06:29] <x86i> try try and you will kernel panic
[06:29] <Arinux> wola here we go again
[06:29] <Toma-> morgs^^: try sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-1
[06:29] <x86i> ?
[06:29] <Arinux> right now i am downloading the files needed to make xconfig
[06:30] <rellik> is it safe to set the super-user reserved space to 0% when making an ext3 fs?
[06:30] <tescoil> Karl Marx on Microsoft:  "In a society founded on poverty the poorest products have the fatal prerogative of being used by the greatest number."
[06:31] <intelikey> safe... yeah.   it's not a security risk if that is what you mean.
[06:31] <morgs^^> toma , that says ::: dvdstyler: Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>)
[06:31] <Toma-> interesting..
[06:31] <Neophite> Why can't the super user make a mounted fat32 part writable by other users on the system?
[06:32] <morgs^^> also 2.4-1 says it is the current version
[06:32] <Neophite> (As su I can write to the partition, but I can't make it so my normal user name can write to it.)
[06:33] <intelikey> Neophite use umask=0 in the mount command.
[06:33] <Toma-> morgs^^: is dvd styler an ubntu package?
[06:33] <Toma-> or a deb?
[06:33] <Neophite> intelikey, Thanks mate.
[06:33] <intelikey> np
[06:33] <morgs^^> no its a debian package
[06:33] <Toma-> morgs^^: thats the problem.
[06:34] <morgs^^> most debian ones i install are fine ...
[06:34] <x86i> whats debian?
[06:34] <Toma-> some have dependencies that are related to debian, where as ubuntu have some slightly different package names
[06:35] <Toma-> in which case, it may be better to get the rpm, and use alien to convert it
[06:35] <rellik> what's the purpose of the "lost+found" dir on a new partition?  can I delete it?
[06:36] <Neophite> intelikey, Would "/dev/sda2       /Media          vfat    defaults, umask=0        0       0" be what you mean?
[06:36] <Neophite> (That's the fstab entry for the part.)
[06:37] <morgs^^> funny dvdstyler says its broken but it still funs
[06:37] <morgs^^> funs
[06:38] <morgs^^> Runs
[06:38] <Toma-> 3rd time lucky :D
[06:38] <Toma-> morgs^^: thats the package name for ya. its all the same, just named differently :(
[06:40] <Arinux> hey how do we run .run ext files
[06:40] <rmulliga> Is ubuntulinux.org slow for anyone else?
[06:40] <dr_willis> sh foo.run
[06:40] <Arinux> okay
[06:40] <rain`> ARINUX: IF YOU SACRIFICE A COW TO TUX, THEN YOU CAN
[06:40] <Arinux> rain: what dows that mean
[06:40] <Arinux> does*
[06:41] <bob2> rmulliga: yeah
[06:41] <bob2> Arinux: what is it?
[06:41] <intelikey> Neophite no space between defaults,umask=0      yes.
[06:42] <Arinux> does any one know how to remove that sync clock with ubuntu server  from startup
[06:42] <intelikey> Neophite and if you wanted to make it user mountable add ,users  to that string.
[06:42] <bob2> Arinux: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*ntp*
[06:43] <morgs^^> ;]   thanks man
[06:43] <nemik> so i'm behind a a router and want to SSH into my other ubuntu computer, how can see what IP it is?
[06:43] <nemik> how about external?
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how to tweak the color of the clearlooks theme?  i want to make it white insntead of grey.
[06:44] <Arinux> bob: its says no such file or directory
[06:44] <bob2> Arinux: rcS, not rc2, my mistake
[06:44] <navyn> hey can someone help me?  Whenever I try to log into GNOME i get a message that says $HOME/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored.  I can only get in to failsafe. :(
[06:44] <bob2> navyn: what's the full error?
[06:44] <tritium> nice job, GURT
[06:44] <Arinux> so from start up that clock thing is removed right
[06:45] <x86i> nemik: www.whatismyip.com
[06:45] <bob2> Arinux: it will not attempt to sync to an ntp time server on boot, yes
[06:45] <navyn> It says that there should be a home/navyn, but it does not exist
[06:45] <x86i> or if its local, type ifconfig in the console of the ubuntu box
[06:45] <Arinux> cool, one more thing , at start up it takes a lot for configuring network interface
[06:45] <bob2> navyn: does it exist?
[06:46] <navyn> it did until i rebooted
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: if you're not going to be plugged into ethernet, tell it that
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: remove unneeded auto lines from /etc/network/interfaces
[06:46] <Arinux> Bob:any solution for that bob, how?
[06:46] <navyn> It also says Files should be owned by user something about having 644 permissiosn
[06:46] <Neophite> intelikey, Since it's in the fstab, it's mounted on startup yeah?
[06:46] <Arinux> bob:like?
[06:46] <bob2> Arinux: like what?
[06:47] <guidan_> how do you install the realmedia codecs in ubuntu?
[06:47] <thirso> whats that program to organize gnomes menu?
[06:47] <Arinux> bob: what lines to remove? i am new to this
[06:47] <bob2> guidan_: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[06:47] <nemik> how would i view my IP? anything like ipconfig in windows?
[06:47] <bob2> Arinux: the ones beginning with auto
[06:47] <bob2> nemik: ip a
[06:47] <nemik> thanks bob
[06:47] <x86i> nemik: ifconfig works too
[06:47] <forrest> ?
[06:47] <forrest> hello everyone
[06:47] <navyn> i'll logout and login and get the xsessions error written down.  i'll be right back
[06:48] <guidan_> bob2 -the bot didn't reply
[06:48] <bob2> !+w32codecs
[06:48] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:49] <Arinux> should i delete the lines starting with auto
[06:49] <nemik> thanks bob2 and x86i but i'm behind a router and it is just showing the internal IP's, how can i access it from remotely?
[06:49] <bob2> Arinux: delete the ones yo udon't want, yes
[06:49] <bob2> Arinux: do not remove lo
[06:49] <bob2> nemik: 16:45:10           x86i |  nemik: www.whatismyip.com
[06:49] <nemik> i'm in root
[06:49] <nemik> perhaps i can curl it though...
[06:49] <forrest> when i tried to compile gnocky, i get an error:"checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[06:50] <forrest> could anybody tell me what i should do?
[06:50] <forrest> gcc has been installed
[06:50] <tritium> forrest, have you installed "build-essential"?
[06:50] <bob2> forrest: do you mean "gnokki"?
[06:50] <dewd> what's the name of the executable of the program that's used to edit the applications menu?
[06:51] <misfit_toy> dewd, there is none
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> hey.. two questions .. 1- what's a quick way to tell if i already have zlib, and 2 - if i'm installing system libraries like zlib, should i be su or just any user?
[06:51] <Arinux> okay let me try on next rebbot thanks a lot bob
[06:51] <bob2> anarchyistasty: what are you trying to do?
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> well, get sshd running
[06:51] <bob2> Arinux: you'll want to show it to us first, I'd think...
[06:51] <bob2> anarchyistasty: uh, install the openssh-server package
[06:51] <anarchyistasty> oo sounds fun
[06:51] <forrest> gnokii and gnocky seems like in one family
[06:52] <dewd> misfit_toy, sure there is. I've used it but its name is quite forgettable
[06:52] <bob2> anarchyistasty: or the ssh one
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> yeah i'm doing ssh
[06:52] <Neophite> intelikey, Thanks for the info man. I appreciate it.
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> it requires zlib though
[06:52] <varsedangger> hey i want to write a shell script with a command in it that requires sudo, but i can't figure out how to write it
[06:52] <Arinux> bob: show u what?
[06:52] <forrest> build essential? what's that?
[06:52] <anarchyistasty> *shrug* i dont know if i have it
[06:52] <bob2> faryour /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <misfit_toy> dewd, you mean to edit the gnome menus?
[06:52] <bob2> anarchyistasty: er, you know your package management tools take care of that for you, right?
[06:52] <Arinux> bob: how do i send it to u?
[06:53] <dewd> misfit_toy, maybe? is there one?
[06:53] <bob2> anarchyistasty: sudo apt-get install openssh-server = download and install ssh server and depdencies, start ssh
[06:53] <tritium> forrest, "apt-cache show build-essential" to find out
[06:53] <forrest> build-essential? what's that?
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> thank you
[06:53] <bob2> Arinux: #flood or pastebin.ca
[06:53] <forrest> ok
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> i have no idea how to use my mgmt tools
[06:53] <Tristan9669> does anyone know how to remove auto mounted partition(ntfs) shortcuts from the desktop??
[06:53] <anarchyistasty> but i'll do that
[06:53] <bob2> anarchyistasty: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:54] <Arinux> bob: didn't get u?
[06:54] <anarchyistasty> ok cool (my ssh server is already started, = sweet)
[06:54] <forrest> tritium, it's ok now, thank you very much!!
[06:54] <anarchyistasty> i guess linux isnt that hard
[06:54] <tritium> forrest, :)
[06:55] <Tristan9669> can someone help me?
[06:55] <bob2> Arinux: ?
[06:55] <bob2> Arinux: paste it to #flood or www.pastebin.ca
[06:55] <forrest> oh no, tritium, i got another error: configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0, glib-2.0 >= 2.0.0, gthread-2.0 >= 2.0.0, libglade-2.0 >= 2.0, gnokii >= 0.5.7) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[06:55] <aphesz> Tristan9669: right click delete ?
[06:55] <forrest> :(
[06:55] <misfit_toy> dewd, for Fedora, I don't know
[06:55] <forrest> sorry i'm really a newbie
[06:56] <tritium> forrest, looks like you need to install some dev libraries
[06:56] <dewd> misfit_toy, /usr/bin/smeg
[06:56] <anarchyistasty> hey besides echo'ing to /dev/console, are there other ways to directly message users logged into the same system as you?
[06:56] <Tristan9669> nope doesnt work, its say unable to umount, I dont want to unmount, I just want to remove the icons from the desktop
[06:56] <bob2> anarchyistasty: write
[06:56] <misfit_toy> dewd, oh yeah SMEG
[06:56] <bob2> anarchyistasty: talk
[06:56] <misfit_toy> lol
[06:56] <aphesz> anarchyistasty: wall <msg>
[06:56] <misfit_toy> dewd, so smeg isn't working?
[06:57] <forrest> tritium, dev libraries? what will the names be?
[06:57] <tritium> forrest, what are you compiling?
[06:57] <dewd> misfit_toy, a friend wanted to use it but I couldn't remember its name. thanks
[06:57] <forrest> gnocky
[06:57] <bob2> it's not in ubuntu
[06:57] <tritium> forrest, do you mena gnokii?
[06:58] <tritium> s/mena/mean
[06:58] <poningru> anyone know where to get open cd documentation?
[06:58] <bob2> tritium: it appears to be a wrapper for it, since it requires gnokki
[06:58] <forrest> i guess gnokii & gnocky is in one family
[06:58] <tritium> bob2, ah
[06:58] <bob2> it appears to be dead, tho
[06:58] <navyn> bob2, i'm back with more info this time
[06:58] <bob2> upstream
[06:58] <bob2> or I'd package it
[06:58] <Arinux> which is the best download manager and accelerator with all browser integration
[06:59] <tritium> bob2, ok, thanks
[06:59] <bob2> ugh
[06:59] <navyn> home directory is listed as /home/navyn, but it does not appear to exist
[06:59] <bob2> haha
[06:59] <rain`> Arinux: firefox
[06:59] <forrest> tritium, i got this line: gnocky, gnokii frontend written in GTK2 by Igor Popik
[06:59] <navyn> File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions
[06:59] <Arinux> no rain i am talking about a dl manager
[07:00] <forrest> maybe i shouldn't have tried to install gnocky?
[07:00] <tritium> forrest, I see.  Well, you can try, but you'll need to install some development libraries to do so
[07:00] <poningru>   Arinux I am using download X
[07:00] <Arinux> like we have dap in windows !
[07:00] <Arinux> poningru: is it good
[07:00] <navyn> $HOME/.dmrc has incorrect file permissions and is being ignored
[07:01] <bob2> forrest: you need to: sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libglade2.0-dev libgnokii2-dev
[07:01] <bob2> navyn: dude
[07:01] <bob2> navyn: think about this
[07:01] <bob2> Arinux: just use firefox' one
[07:01] <poningru> Arinux: yeah I guess so
[07:01] <bob2> I don't see the attraction of trying to DOS a server you're downloading from
[07:01] <poningru> hehe
[07:02] <Arinux> Bob: but i don't have accelerate options plus not that good resume feature
[07:02] <bob2> "accelerate options"?
[07:02] <bob2> the resume stuff is shit, I agree
[07:02] <Arinux> like we used to have in DAP
[07:02] <navyn> then it says under the .xsession errors, that no profile for user navyn found.  unable to create ~./gnome2 directory
[07:03] <poningru> Arinux: get the download manager extension
[07:03] <Arinux> means?
[07:03] <poningru> just go to addons.mozilla.org
[07:03] <micskyvitch> /nick mickskyvitch
[07:03] <navyn> i've been running this box for the past week under navyn
[07:03] <Arinux> okay then
[07:03] <poningru> and search for download manager
[07:04] <morgs^^> is there a default peerguardian firewall type package in abuntu ?
[07:04] <Arinux> k
[07:04] <Adamski-> hi..i have already FC 4 which full of bugs installed..how do we replace it with ubuntu without needed to reformat HDD ? i have only one Ubuntu Disk from local magazine ? is it full version  ?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> morgs^^, tried firestarter ?
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> Adamski-, ubuntu comes with 1 cd only
[07:04] <bob2> Adamski-: what do you mean "without needed to reformat HDD"?
[07:05] <poningru> http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?s=8fea706ec72ffb1c9a45366857afdc6c&showtopic=35&hl=download+manager
[07:05] <morgs^^> wickedpuppy,   no     thankyou :))
[07:06] <poningru> Arinux: that link was for you
[07:06] <iiiears> Adamski - Ubuntu has 17,000 applications available to install from internet repositories  just point and click.
[07:06] <rain`> morgs^^: whats wrong with firestarter? there is also shorewall, guarddog...etc
[07:07] <gregf> hi all - ive recently upgraded from hoary to breezy and ive notice in /root/dbootstrap_setting, SUITE="hoary" - Is that anything to worry about?
[07:08] <morgs^^> rain`... nothing ... im new to linux thats all ;}
[07:08] <rain`> sudo ln -s /dev/hda1 /dev/null
[07:09] <iamsthitha> hey
[07:09] <iamsthitha> what's the file where th startup programs are put?
[07:10] <tritium> do you mean the initscripts, iamsthitha ?
[07:10] <iamsthitha> no
[07:10] <iamsthitha> I mean
[07:10] <iamsthitha> when X starts
[07:10] <iamsthitha> and logs in
[07:10] <poningru> just go to system->preference-> and under session
[07:11] <iamsthitha> ah
[07:11] <iamsthitha> thanks
[07:11] <tritium> iamsthitha, you like that Enter key?
[07:11] <iamsthitha> l
[07:11] <iamsthitha> o
[07:11] <iamsthitha> v
[07:11] <iamsthitha> e
[07:11] <iamsthitha> i
[07:11] <iamsthitha> t
[07:11] <poningru> dude
[07:11] <iamsthitha> :P
[07:11] <iamsthitha> dah
[07:11] <iamsthitha> I was kidding
[07:11] <yasser> !sources
[07:11] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:12] <Myrtti> is the problem only at my end of the cable or is counter.li.org down?
[07:12] <rain`> mv /dev/iamsthitha /dev/null
[07:12] <iamsthitha> :\
[07:12] <jron`> does ubuntu keep a web db to search packages like gentoo has at packages.gentoo.org?
[07:12] <tritium> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <jron`> heh
[07:13] <jron`> tks
[07:13] <iamsthitha> hey...
[07:13] <iamsthitha> can I ask in here about composite managers?
[07:13] <iamsthitha> is there any nice one for gnome?
[07:13] <poningru> composit manager?
[07:13] <iamsthitha> yea.. like transparency n stuff
[07:14] <rain`> composite managers are laggy, and have memory leaks
[07:14] <iamsthitha> rain`, thank you.. that was.. very helpful
[07:14] <rain`> NO PROBLEMO
[07:14] <rain`> mv /dev/composite /dev/null
[07:14] <iamsthitha> :\
[07:14] <iamsthitha> so...
[07:15] <Parisi> hmm
[07:15] <iamsthitha> anyone else know about composite managers?
[07:15] <Arinux> lol
[07:15] <poningru> iamsthitha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75527
[07:15] <Parisi> Who here prefers KDE over Gnome?
[07:16] <iamsthitha> poningru, thanks
[07:16] <iamsthitha> wait.
[07:16] <iamsthitha> I've been thru that already :)
[07:16] <dooglus> Parisi: the people who prefer KDE over Gnome would be in #kubuntu I guess...
[07:16] <Parisi> Ah, good point.
[07:16] <poningru> hehe
[07:16] <Parisi> I was just looking for opinions i guess.
[07:17] <dooglus> who here prefers redhat over ubuntu?
[07:17] <rain`> parisi: I started with KDE but moved to gnome, kde seems bloated to me
[07:17] <iamsthitha> me me me me!
[07:17] <Parisi> Err, def not me.
[07:17] <iamsthitha> no...
[07:17] <iamsthitha> kde is bloated
[07:17] <Parisi> rain` I like gnome other then the fact that i find it to run slugish.
[07:18] <Parisi> I find kde the closest to Windows.
[07:18] <Parisi> Not that its a really good thing.
[07:18] <rain`> Parisi: linux is to get away from windows!
[07:18] <iamsthitha> KDE is less sluggish than gnome?
[07:18] <Parisi> gnome is more of its own thing.
[07:18] <dooglus> KDE and GNOME are both pretty sluggish as far as I can see
[07:19] <Parisi> iamsthitha based on my past experiences, yes, kde did run smoother, more responsive.
[07:19] <Parisi> Specially when i use custom themes for gnome.
[07:19] <dooglus> xfce, fluxbox, ratpoison and so on are faster, but less featuresome
[07:19] <iamsthitha> yumm.. xfce
[07:19] <Parisi> I just cant stick with the default gnome ubuntu theme.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> linux isn't necesarilly to get away from being windows as much as it is about choice. And when it comes to window-managers you can choose to be more or less windowslike. L)
[07:20] <iamsthitha> and you can choose to have fady windows with shadows and make them see through
[07:20] <iamsthitha> weee!
[07:21] <Parisi> I guess it would not be much of an issue if i had a fairly fast PC, but thats not really my case, its a p4 1.7 with 256 ram and a geforce 2 mx
[07:21] <bungle> erk unless my kids are causing my puter to half suspend ... often it can't ever restart the monitor
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> iamsthitha: yep, and have your desktop be slow and feature rich or lighweight and barely more than a xterm :)
[07:21] <Parisi> So gnome does choke a little on it.
[07:21] <iamsthitha> anyway.. you guys in here have fun.. I go jump around with my translucent windows
[07:22] <rellik> how do I get rid of a defunct process?  kill and kill -9 return but the process is still there
[07:22] <dooglus> rellik: I don't think you can
[07:23] <rellik> dooglus, have to reboot?
[07:23] <dooglus> rellik: or just ignore it...
[07:23] <dooglus> rellik: I might be wrong.  if anyone wants to correct me, please do!
[07:23] <Arinux> in my device manager it says the processor and vendor are unknown how can i fix this problem
[07:24] <fL4k_m0nKEy> Could someone tell me how to get rar files extracted on breezy? :o
[07:24] <poningru> fL4k_m0nKEy: tar
[07:24] <poningru> err
[07:24] <tritium> !rar
[07:24] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[07:24] <bungle> unrar :P
[07:25] <fL4k_m0nKEy> that does not work :|
[07:26] <fL4k_m0nKEy> If i try to install package "rar" it says that it does not excist :P
[07:26] <Arinux> dooglus: whats xfce
[07:27] <tritium> fL4k_m0nKEy, read the wiki page
[07:27] <shawarma> rellik: Kill its parent process.
[07:27] <fL4k_m0nKEy> i read it ffs
[07:28] <tritium> ffs?  don't be rude...
[07:28] <fL4k_m0nKEy> I would not be asking here if a guide on web would help me with this :L
[07:30] <forrest> oh god, i still cannot make gnocky work :(
[07:30] <tritium> forrest, did you install the necessary libraries?
[07:30] <forrest> i installed libgtk2.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libglade2.0-dev libgnokii2-dev
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> fL4k_m0nKEy: apt-get install unrar
[07:30] <Parisi> fL4k_m0nKEy Go to the winrar site and get the linux file, simple.
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> i have installed it
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> :L
[07:30] <fL4k_m0nKEy> goddamn
[07:30] <Parisi> fL4k_m0nKEy You will have the to find the path for it then
[07:31] <Adamski-> hi..i have already FC 4 which full of bugs installed..how do we replace it with ubuntu without needed to reformat HDD ? i have only one Ubuntu Disk from local magazine ? is it full version  ?
[07:31] <fL4k_m0nKEy> oh really?   This is the first linux distro I've had, um, in a decade or so, that didn't have a c compiler installed by default.
[07:33] <poningru> who here is from canonical?
[07:33] <lajuj> if I download a windows .exe driver file, how can I unzip it?
[07:33] <shawarma> lajuj: Maybe unzip
[07:34] <Parisi> lajuj Ah what?
[07:34] <lajuj> well
[07:34] <lajuj> I am trying to get broadband to work
[07:34] <tescoil> "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." ?
[07:35] <lajuj> so I am downloading the drivers and then ndiswrapper them
[07:35] <tritium> tescoil, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[07:35] <forrest> hey tritium, good news: ./configure works now
[07:35] <tritium> forrest, good
[07:35] <forrest> but i cannot complete make, i got an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lbluetooth
[07:36] <Parisi> lajuj http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:36] <Adamski-> where we can get more application for ubuntu please ?
[07:37] <poningru> Adamski-: synaptic
[07:37] <gleesond> when I try to add a printer in cups it asks me for a username and password but I never set one? what should I do?
[07:37] <Madpilot> Adamski-: there's 16,000 packages in the repos - have a look in Synaptic
[07:38] <Madpilot> Adamski-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:39] <glyn> I have 250 MB of unpartitioned space which is too small to partition does anyone know how I can integrate this space onto my ubuntu drive?
[07:40] <jeavislap> hello
[07:40] <poningru> glyn: just mount it
[07:40] <poningru> !mount
[07:40] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[07:40] <jeavislap>  I want to install QT anybody can help me
[07:40] <tescoil> tritium, thanks.  I don't know if that worked yet, but it installed a bunch of stuff I expected to have already.
[07:40] <Tomcat_> poningru: If it's unpartitioned, it's very likely that it doesn't have an FS :)
[07:40] <poningru> oh doh
[07:41] <poningru> missed that detail
[07:41] <tritium> no problem, tescoil.  Try again now.
[07:41] <poningru> glyn: partition it using something like gparted
[07:41] <poningru> or qtparted
[07:42] <Adamski-> thanks
[07:42] <Adamski-> one last question...how does ubuntu handling hardware : gforce or ati radeon, via soundcard and usb device (flash disk, etc)
[07:42] <poningru> wtf
[07:42] <poningru> Adamski-: the nvidia cards are def better
[07:42] <gleesond> oh cups admin is disabled
[07:42] <poningru> Adamski-: usb devices are done better
[07:42] <poningru> err
[07:42] <Madpilot> Adamski-: sound and USB should just work; vid cards need drivers, but they're all available
[07:43] <poningru> yeah just work
[07:43] <gleesond> I can't seem to make a uri for my printer though... can anyone help?
[07:43] <tescoil> That got me significantly farther along, tritium.
[07:43] <tritium> good, tescoil
[07:44] <Adamski-> i think im ready leave fedora core 4 behind....
[07:44] <jeavislap> hello
[07:44] <jeavislap> somebody use Qt
[07:44] <poningru> jeavislap: what do you mean qt?
[07:44] <poningru> as in KDE?
[07:44] <poningru> or just the libs?
[07:46] <nemik> does ssh need to be configured or anything to log in? the 22 port works ok and asks for login but root and its pass won't work...
[07:47] <poningru> is there someone from canonical here?
[07:47] <Myrtti> root :-/
[07:47] <Myrtti> !root
[07:47] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:47] <Severian> nemik, there is no root login on a normal Ubuntu setup
[07:47] <jeavislap> poningru: Qt
[07:48] <jeavislap> poningru: gui for c++
[07:48] <nemik> severian, i did sudo passwd root and defined a root with which i'm logged in now
[07:48] <glyn> 255MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f9bf0 would 000f9bf0 be the drive letter/number?
[07:48] <nemik> i'm using the base install
[07:48] <glyn> if not how do I find the drive letter/number using dmesg|less?
[07:48] <forrest> oh, such a pain, i can find this line: checking PACKAGE_LIBS... -pthread -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgthread-2.0 -lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lz -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXext -lXcursor -lXfixes -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lXrender -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lgnokii -lbluetooth -lXpm -lX11
[07:48] <Severian> jeavislap, What do you want qt for?  That will clear up how to answer your question.
[07:49] <aphesz> nemik: even if u changed the root passwd, ubuntu configured sshd NOT to accept direct root logins
[07:49] <forrest> there wasn't any error when checking -lbluetooth, but it stopped when i try to make
[07:49] <glyn> can someone help me mount 255mb of unpartitioned space?  the wiki's instructions have no explanation
[07:49] <nemik> aphesz, how can change that? in etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[07:50] <aphesz> nemik: yes but that will definately defeat the purpose of having a secure configurations now would it :)
[07:50] <jeavislap> Severian: Do you know Qt?
[07:50] <DeFi> depends on how you define security
[07:51] <Severian> jeavislap, I wrote a couple of test programs, but I am no expert.
[07:51] <Severian> jeavislap, I use several qt based apps, even on Ubuntu.
[07:51] <nemik> aphesz, i did make another username during the install, a non-root one but that isn't working either
[07:51] <jeavislap> Severian: How I can install Qt in Ubuntu
[07:52] <aphesz> nemik: any chances that u forgot the password?
[07:52] <glyn> can someone help me mount 255mb of unpartitioned space?  the wiki's instructions have no explanation
[07:52] <nemik> no, because i tried to logout and login with that and it worked
[07:52] <glyn> been working with Ubuntu all day..could really use some help so I could get this over with please
[07:52] <aphesz> nemik: then what was it that doest work? su ?
[07:52] <aphesz> *doesnt
[07:53] <NoUse> glyn install gparted, thats a nice graphical tool to do what you want
[07:53] <Severian> jeavislap, There are a number of pieces to qt.  If you would kindly consider answering my question, I'll try to tell you how to procede.
[07:53] <nemik> aphesz, logging in remotely to the box from putty in windows doesn't work
[07:53] <glyn> NoUse:For some reason whenever I try to download something in the browser, no window pops up and it doesn't get downloaded
[07:54] <jeavislap> Severian: ok how I procede
[07:54] <Slarti2> nemik : I take it you can access X?
[07:54] <NoUse> glyn you don't need a browser to get gparted, use synaptic
[07:54] <nemik> slarti2...not sure what that is...
[07:54] <glyn> NoUse:K thanks
[07:54] <Slarti2> nemik, Gnome desktop
[07:55] <aphesz> nemik: u can connect via putty but u cant login ?
[07:55] <Severian> jeavislap, tell me what you want to use qt for.  Is there some program you want to run, or do you want to develop an application, or what?
[07:55] <nemik> aphesz, exactly
[07:55] <nemik> slarti, i'm using the base install
[07:55] <Arinux> here where can i find xmms add ons
[07:56] <aphesz> nemik: try changing the password at the box itself then try loggin via putty again
[07:56] <nemik> aphesz, i'll try it
[07:56] <nemik> thank you for the help
[07:56] <jeavislap> Severian; develop
[07:56] <Slarti2> was about to say, you have to assign a password to root with the base install
[07:56] <aphesz> welcome
[07:56] <booger> I need help
[07:57] <jeavislap> booger; to
[07:57] <Slarti2> easiest way to set the password is via the system>administration>users&groups prog
[07:57] <booger> I am having trouble with sound
[07:57] <jeavislap> booger; what do you need
[07:57] <Slarti2> select root, properties and put in the new password at the box
[07:57] <booger> everything is working except gxine
[07:58] <booger> and totem
[07:58] <aphesz> Slarti2: actually, the easiest way is via the console.. ;)
[07:58] <glyn> does it matter if I make this small space a primary partition or extended partition?  what are the differences?
[07:58] <DeFi> Slarti2: that wont work w/o a display manager... therefore passwd is the easiest
[07:58] <Slarti2> aphesz, is for people who are used to using the console
[07:58] <Severian> jeavislap, Open Synaptic Package Manager  Search for the name  qt3-dev-tools,  Mark it and install.    You will need to install a compiler, too, if you have not done so.  Ubuntu does not install a compiler by default.
[07:58] <nemik> aphesz, i just keep getting access denied, must be something in the config....
[07:58] <nemik> right?
[07:58] <Slarti2> thought he used the base install
[07:58] <aphesz> Slarti2:  that's the whole point of learning linux.. ;)
[07:59] <Slarti2> it's not the point of ubuntu
[07:59] <nemik> yes!
[07:59] <nemik> i like it a lot
[07:59] <DeFi> base install = no X last time I did it
[07:59] <aphesz> nemik: you could check it if you think that could be the problem :D
[07:59] <booger> any one have any idea about fixing the sound
[07:59] <nemik> its like a base, but with apt-get. really cool
[07:59] <Severian> glyn, the main thing is that you can only have 4 primary partitions.  One of those can be used to contain extended partitions.
[07:59] <Slarti2> if I wanted a console based linux I'd use debian or slack
[07:59] <Sirrush> Hey everyone
[07:59] <booger> hello
[07:59] <jeavislap> Severian; Ok I installed qt3-dev-tools
[08:00] <aphesz> Slarti2: Ubuntu IS based on debian :)
[08:00] <Slarti2> yes, and mandrake is based on redhat
[08:00] <DeFi> debian and slackware will run KDE / gnome just greeat too
[08:00] <Slarti2> whats your point?
[08:00] <Severian> jeavislap, have you installed your c++ compiler?  qt is C++ based.
[08:00] <jeavislap> Severian; g++
[08:01] <aphesz> you started arguing with all the X thingy Slarti2 ;)
[08:01] <nemik> aphesz, problem is i am behind a VOIP router and on a wifi access-point (well router with DHCP turned off) connected to the VOIP router
[08:01] <Slarti2> aphesz, :-P
[08:01] <Severian> jeavislap, that will do.  You should be set to go.
[08:01] <booger> Severian do you have any fixes for sound
[08:01] <aphesz> nemik: that shouldnt be a problem coz u can connect to the box
[08:01] <nemik> but i'm getting a request to log in, so that means it is good, no? just don't know why none of the names are working...
[08:01] <nemik> ok, that's what i thought
[08:01] <glyn> now that I got the space partitioned how am I able to use it to store stuff on from ubuntu?
[08:01] <jeavislap> Severian: g++ 3.3.5
[08:02] <Slarti2> ubuntu is solely responsible for my wife dropping windows and it wasn't down to it's friendly console
[08:02] <aphesz> the problem is, sshd refuses to accept your login. which is weird
[08:02] <glyn> have to mount it?
[08:02] <booger> any help?
[08:02] <Severian> jeavislap, if it were me, I would do a search in Synaptic by name for qt and add anything that looked interesting.
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian: but I compile he qt hello world and my pc dont recognize qt
[08:02] <aphesz> Slarti2: what ever makes you & your wife happy :)
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian, I do that
[08:02] <jeavislap> Severian, I did that
[08:03] <booger> hello?
[08:03] <nemik> aphesz, i'll pkill sshd and play with its config then start it again. but at least i know it is working
[08:03] <Severian> booger, what kind of sound problem do you have.  Hoary was not good at synchronizing sound and video, but Breezy has been great for me.
[08:03] <nemik> i think it is just down to config now, thank you very much for your help though!
[08:03] <Slarti2> infact they should use that on their website "so friendly even my wife uses it"
[08:03] <Severian> jeavislap, Then I think you are ready.  Is there a problem?
[08:04] <DeFi> nemik just /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[08:04] <DeFi> cleaner :)
[08:04] <glyn> how come when I try to mount the space I just made with gparted it says it doesn't exist?
[08:04] <nemik> oh ok, i was gonna pkill sshd but a good idea is a good idea ;)
[08:04] <booger> your right breezy is great only having problem with totem and gxine
[08:04] <nemik> thanks defi!
[08:04] <aftertaf> glyn:  you need to have a mount point too.
[08:04] <aftertaf> !tell glyn about mount
[08:04] <DeFi> their bunch of start / stop /restart scripts in /etc/init.d
[08:04] <jeavislap> Severian; check this
[08:04] <DeFi> one for every daemon pretty much
[08:04] <glyn> ~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 /home/glyn/Extended\ HD/ mount: special device /dev/hda3 does not exist
[08:05] <Severian> booger, I installed the totem-xine package, as suggested on the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  After that, totem has done fine for me.
[08:05] <aftertaf> glyn:  then hda3, does it exist? and you're not saying which fstype it is.
[08:05] <johnw> HELP!!!... I have a folder /chroot/var:
[08:06] <johnw> ls -ld /chroot/var
[08:06] <johnw> drwxrwxrwx  3 root  root  4096 2005-11-01 00:15 var
[08:06] <johnw> -----------------------------------------------
[08:06] <johnw> How can I change the owner?  I tried "sudo chmod myuser /chroot/var" but it says I don't have permission!
[08:06] <jeavislap> Severian; my g++ dont recognize Qt
[08:06] <booger> severian, so you didnt do it from apt get
[08:06] <tritium> johnw, don't paste
[08:06] <DeFi> sudo chown user /dir/file
[08:06] <aphesz> glyn: could you do a "fdisk -l" and check if you've got the correct device name?
[08:06] <johnw> i meant chown I think
[08:06] <jeavislap> Severian; Can I send you the program Its a simple hello world
[08:06] <nemik> aphesz, ok i was wrong....i stopped it, its not in ps -A and i got the login again...so i guess i was SSHing into something else...but what?
[08:06] <johnw> yeah, I do sudo chown
[08:06] <Severian> booger, I used synaptic, which is just a front end to apt-get.
[08:07] <aphesz> nemik: beats me.. sshd gone haywire for a while i guessd :p
[08:07] <johnw> DeFi, that's what I use sudo chown
[08:07] <Severian> jeavislap, Are you familiar with pastebin?
[08:07] <DeFi> hmm
[08:07] <booger> ya I switched to totem-xine and the sound is not working also installed gxine, which is awsome, but no sound as well. I do however get sound from internet flash animations and streamed audio.
[08:07] <johnw> chown: changing ownership of `/chroot/named/var': Operation not permitted
[08:07] <glyn> /dev/hda3            1256        1292      279720    5  Extended
[08:08] <Arinux> anyone good here in kernel upgradation?
[08:08] <DeFi> try doin sudo su
[08:08] <DeFi> then do it
[08:08] <johnw> what's su?
[08:08] <DeFi> superuser
[08:08] <johnw> root!
[08:08] <DeFi> yep
[08:08] <glyn> aphesz:/dev/hda3            1256        1292      279720    5  Extended
[08:08] <johnw> DeFi: you are the man.  can i ever log in as root?
[08:09] <Severian> booger, I know this may seem silly, but frequently the no sound problem is just that the volume control is turned down.  Open the Volume Control and be sure things are turned up.
[08:09] <DeFi> not by default, you have to enable the root user
[08:09] <johnw> DeFi: how do i set the password?
[08:09] <siimo> 2D performance in breezy sucks compared to hoary? why is this? did gnome become bloated? when i minimize all windows it takes a second for icons to appear on desktop again  - if i install nvidia driver its a little faster but still VERY slow compared to hoary, whats wrong here? i mean in hoary nv driver was 10 times faster than anything in breezy
[08:09] <DeFi> passwd root
[08:09] <DeFi> (as root)
[08:09] <nemik> johnw, sudo passwd root
[08:09] <jeavislap> Severian; no
[08:09] <booger> did that even went into alsamixer and turned everythin on and up. checked system sound and application sound
[08:09] <johnw> thank you DeFi and nemik
[08:09] <DeFi> well we cheated and did `sudo su` ;)
[08:10] <siimo> anyone experience this?
[08:10] <glyn> can anyone help me mount a partition I just made?  this is what's happening
[08:10] <nemik> ahh ok
[08:10] <glyn> when I try to mount it it says this
[08:10] <DeFi> hehe
[08:10] <glyn> sudo mount /dev/hda3 /home/glyn/Extended\ HD/ mount: special device /dev/hda3 does not exist
[08:10] <aphesz> glyn: im not a guru about partitions but i dont think Extended paritions can be mounted
[08:10] <aftertaf> glyn paste results of fdisk -l to pastebin
[08:10] <nitinshantharam> how do i change the mailbox size for a user
[08:11] <Severian> jeavislap, the way of passing information in this irc channel is to visit http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  Paste your information to a page there and return here to give the URL.
[08:11] <linukso> siimo: I have the same problem...
[08:11] <Arinux> Any one?
[08:11] <Severian> booger, What kind of sound card do you have?
[08:12] <booger> stock on mother board how would I check
[08:12] <siimo> linukso, its very annoying even with nvidia driver installed its bad :-( and windows move jerky
[08:12] <linukso> I know....
[08:12] <aero> ah, ubuntu!
[08:12] <siimo> tried anything to fix it?
[08:12] <linukso> nope
[08:12] <aero> :)
[08:13] <Severian> booger, what is the motherboard?
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: define "mailbox size"
[08:13] <glyn> how do I check if something is mounted correctly?
[08:13] <booger> ooh I dont know for sure
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: do you mean disk quota?
[08:13] <NoUse> glyn run mount
[08:13] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: or removing unwanted mail from a mailbox
[08:13] <siimo> :-(
[08:13] <nitinshantharam> well, i dont know the exact error i am getting is this: Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; cannot access mailbox /var/mail/nitin for user
[08:13] <nitinshantharam>    nitin. error writing message: File too large
[08:13] <siimo> disappointed i might go back to hoary
[08:14] <Severian> booger, OK, open System/Device Manager.  Look for your sound card in the list of devices that the OS knows about.
[08:14] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: ls -lh /var/mail/nitin
[08:14] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: what is the size?
[08:14] <nitinshantharam> 49m
[08:14] <glyn> cool thanks I got it
[08:14] <nitinshantharam> 49M
[08:15] <xidoo> hola
[08:15] <xidoo> alguien de mexico
[08:15] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: strange
[08:15] <xidoo> o que hable espaol
[08:15] <booger> it says Sis sound controller
[08:15] <nitinshantharam> TTilus: hmm..
[08:15] <Madpilot> !es
[08:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:15] <xidoo> es la primera vez que utilizo un sistema linux
[08:15] <DeFi> nitinshantharam: there is a size option in here: /etc/postfix/main.cf ..... not sure if it helps
[08:15] <thoreauputic> !es
[08:16] <glyn> is there an easy way to free up space and see what's taking up so much space?
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> deeLer i dont see a size opton
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> opps
[08:16] <kandoora_> how do i get totem player to get all the necessary codecs
[08:16] <nitinshantharam> DeFi: i dont seee an option for size
[08:16] <glyn> kandoora_:try apt-get install totem-xine
[08:16] <DeFi> mailbox_size_limit = 0
[08:16] <Madpilot> !tell kandoora_ about restricted
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> glyn, du | sort -rn | head -5
[08:16] <DeFi> is what i have in mine
[08:16] <glyn> and w32codecs
[08:16] <Severian> booger, what speed is your CPU?  I am trying to get some clue as to the era of your sound device.
[08:16] <DeFi> could prolly change that to whatever
[08:16] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: man postfix?
[08:17] <nitinshantharam> defcon8 ill set that to soemthign and try
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:7:28: QApplication: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:8:27: QPushButton: No existe el fichero o el directorio
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp: En function `int main(int, char**)':
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: `QApplication' undeclared (first use this function)
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[08:17] <jeavislap>    for each function it appears in.)
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:12: error: error de decodificacin before `(' token
[08:17] <jeavislap> Qttutorial1.cpp:14: error: `QPushButton' undec
[08:17] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: or you could try to make backup copy of you mailbox and empty the file completely
[08:17] <booger> unknown I know its an amd athalon xp2000
[08:17] <nitinshantharam> TTilus: ugh..
[08:17] <thoreauputic> jeavislap: do *NOT* paste in here
[08:17] <Madpilot> !tell jeavislap about paste
[08:17] <kandoora_> glyn, is the totem-xine all the codecs i need
[08:17] <Severian> jeavislap, please stop or you will get kicked off.
[08:18] <jeavislap> Severian; I pasted, Can you check
[08:18] <DeFi> XD
[08:18] <xidoo> hola
[08:18] <Severian> jeavislap, what is the URL for the pastebin page?
[08:18] <glyn> kandoora_:if that doesn't work look into w32 codecs
[08:18] <aero> I have a quick question here - when i 'sudo' (fresh install), how come it wants my user password not the SU (root) password - is that not rather insecure, has it allowed root privs to my designated user ?
[08:18] <xidoo> hi, someone may i help me?
[08:18] <jeavislap> Severian; sorry I think that I have your nick in my mem
[08:18] <glyn> kandoora_:that will upgrade totem though to get more stuff working
[08:18] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: just cp and echo > /var/mail/nitin
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !tell aero about rootsudo
[08:19] <xidoo> hola alguien me puede ayudar?
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:19] <jeavislap> que paso xidoo
[08:19] <aero> thanks thoreauputic
[08:19] <Severian> jeavislap, no problem.  I have been trying to help.
[08:19] <xidoo> jeavislap me puedes decir un canal en espaol para obtener una mejor ayuda
[08:19] <jeavislap> Severian; http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3975
[08:20] <jeavislap> #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <xidoo> es la primera vez que uso un sistema linux
[08:20] <jeavislap> xidoo, cual es tu problema, de donde eres
[08:20] <thoreauputic> guys - this is an english channel - /join #ubuntu-es
[08:20] <glyn> when I do du | sort -rn | head -5 I only get 2 files, one that's 3mb and another that's less than 1mb
[08:20] <TTilus> nitinshantharam: hth, i'm leavig now...
[08:20] <jeavislap> sorry
[08:20] <xidoo> soy de mexico, pues quisiera aprender a usar linux, empeze con ubuntu
[08:21] <thoreauputic> xidoo: please, last warning
[08:21] <GTroy> are the repos alright?
[08:21] <booger> ac 97 2.3
[08:21] <glyn> how do I clean up old compiling?
[08:21] <booger> thats the sound card
[08:21] <TTilus> xidoo: go  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <jeavislap> xidoo; #ubuntu-es
[08:21] <GTroy> or is it my source list?
[08:21] <Severian> booger, ok the bad news is that I don't have an idea for you.  I can guess that the sound chip is one of just a few now.  I have one of those and it does fine for me.  I was hoping you had an older system and it might have been something else.
[08:22] <jeavislap> Severian; do you check my problem
[08:22] <booger> ya before when I was on hoary movie audio worked fine
[08:22] <xidoo> jeavislap como entro trato de usar este chat como en MIRC
[08:22] <jeavislap> xidoo; type this /join #ubuntu-es
[08:22] <Severian> jeavislap, I am looking at it now.  I had to finish an answer to someone else first.
[08:22] <aero> hmm, is wiki down at the moment?
[08:22] <xidoo> esa sentenci donde la uso
[08:22] <jeavislap> Severian; thanks
[08:23] <booger> any sugestions to applications settings
[08:23] <thoreauputic> xidoo:  type  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:23] <kandoora_> !w32codecs
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:23] <rixth> RewriteRule ^error/([0-9] +)/$ /error/$1.html << Should that not rewrite domain.org/error/401 to /error/401.html?
[08:23] <jeavislap> xidoo; /join #ubuntu-es
[08:23] <glyn> how do I clean up old compiling?
[08:23] <glyn> or should it remain where it left off without downloading excess files?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> glyn:  make clean  ?
[08:23] <xidoo> gracias jeavislap ya  estoy en la otra sala :P
[08:24] <Severian> jeavislap, The problem looks to be missing header files.  Either they are missing or they are not in your path properly.
[08:24] <glyn> make clean tells me no rule to make target 'clean'
[08:24] <rixth> ubotu, ubuntu in spanish
[08:24] <ubotu> rixth: Are you on ritalin?
[08:24] <kandoora_> Madpilot: what's the deal with restricted formats
[08:24] <rixth> ubotu, es
[08:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:24] <jeavislap> Severian; What I can do, I use gnome
[08:25] <DejaVudew> I've got a n00b question
[08:25] <kandoora_> glyn: when i wanna install totem-xine i gotta uninstall totem-gstreamer
[08:25] <DejaVudew> I can't run any video in firefox under Totem because it doesn't have codecs
[08:25] <Severian> jeavislap, I am looking.  I told you what I knew.  Give me a moment and I should be able to tell you more.
[08:25] <kandoora_> glyn: what is gstreamer
[08:25] <thoreauputic> !tell DejaVudew about restricted
[08:25] <jeavislap> Severian; Ok
[08:25] <glyn> kandoora_:basically a lesser version of what you're going to get
[08:26] <Madpilot> kandoora_: mp3 and such are patented, they're referred to as "restricted" - hence the name of the page
[08:26] <thoreauputic> DejaVudew: read ubotu's msg
[08:26] <star> fasfasdasd
[08:26] <glyn> !w32codecs
[08:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:26] <kandoora_> Madpilot: so do i need ogg vorbis and theora
[08:26] <yi> does anyone know how to disable gamin?
[08:27] <Madpilot> kandoora_: those should be working by default
[08:27] <glyn> anyone have any ideas of how to free up disk space?
[08:27] <Madpilot> kandoora_: but if you need to play mp3/wmv/etc use the info on RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <aphesz> glyn: delete unwanted files ?
[08:27] <DejaVudew> !w32codecs
[08:28] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).  For 64-bit read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz: the last time I tried that I deleted some packages and lost gnome
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz: it took me hours to get it back
[08:28] <Danny|> i just connected my mp3 player to ubuntu, and it recognized it as a 491mb removable volume.. i deleted a few albums from it but it still says that there are only 2mb free.. did i miss something?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> glyn: apt-get clean will wipe your cache of debs as well (usually several hundred MB)
[08:28] <Fletch> I only installed the base version of ubuntu and I want to get a window manager (XCFE) just so I can use xmms, I installed xserver-xorg, whats next?
[08:28] <glyn> aphesz:the biggest file(s) I have total like 10mb or less
[08:28] <aphesz> glyn: check .log files. those are usually bloated yet redundant files
[08:29] <Fletch> The computer I'm doing it on doesnt have net access either
[08:29] <glyn> thoreauputic:that helped with about 50 mb
[08:29] <glyn> thanks
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Fletch: you'll need at least x-window-system-core
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Fletch: and an xterm, plus a window manager
[08:30] <glyn> I'm compiling something using a shell script
[08:30] <glyn> I keep running out of space before it finishes
[08:30] <dooglus> glyn: write a DVD full of stuff you don't use much and you'll save 4.3 gigs
[08:30] <glyn> does it start where I left off?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Fletch: if you want xfce4 you can do sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:30] <glyn> or is this why I have so much space taken up?
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: if it's really a shell script, it's quite likely it restarts from the beginning each time.  if it's a makefile it's likely to continue where it left off
[08:31] <Severian> jeavislap, check in synaptic and see if you have the qt3-apps-dev package.
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: what are you trying to compile?
[08:31] <glyn> dooglus: well it's a sh for compiling winecvs
[08:31] <glyn> dooglus:it has a stage where it says make though and it always goes back to that cuz that's where it gets stuck
[08:31] <dooglus> glyn: oh, i see.
[08:32] <glyn> dooglus:I just don't want to be repititively wasting space
[08:32] <dooglus> glyn: the shell script might be cleaning up before it runs the make, in which case it will be starting from scratch each time.
[08:32] <thoreauputic> glyn: do you have the build-essential package installed ?
[08:32] <dooglus> glyn: run "du -xk ~ | sort -n" to see where your disk space is going
[08:33] <Severian> jeavislap, also check  libqt3-dev  and  libqt3-headers
[08:33] <booger> any one have audio problems with just video?
[08:33] <glyn> thoreauputic:yes
[08:33] <dooglus> booger: what kind of audio problems?
[08:33] <thoreauputic> OK
[08:33] <booger> totem or gxine does not produce audio but streaming music and internet audio works
[08:33] <jeavislap> Severian: qt3-apps-dev is installed
[08:34] <dooglus> booger: i've not had that, no.
[08:34] <dooglus> booger: but then, i've not used gxine or totem much
[08:34] <booger> what are you using
[08:34] <Arinux> hey anyone good at compiling kernels?
[08:34] <Severian> jeavislap, did you see the other two I asked you to check on?
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: gcc is good at compiling kernels
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: I wouldn't suggest doing it by hand - it would be a waste of a life
[08:35] <Arinux> dooglus: I got a small query
[08:35] <booger> dooglus: what are you using
[08:35] <dooglus> booger: mostly just mplayer-nogui
[08:35] <Arinux> i downloaded the i386 version
[08:35] <dooglus> Arinux: shoot
[08:35] <Arinux> now i have installed on my laptop which is i686
[08:36] <booger> dooglus: how is that working for you, do dvd's work
[08:36] <Arinux> i am going for the vanillla kernel
[08:36] <jeavislap> Severian; yes
[08:36] <Arinux> so now i want it to take the i686 architecture
[08:36] <dooglus> booger: not much.  they play, but without 'navigation'.  I use xine for dvds with navigation
[08:36] <yosef> Can someone help me concerning hebrew file names?
[08:36] <jeavislap> Severian; libqt3-dev yes
[08:36] <Arinux> so how is that possible
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> Arinux, sudp apt-get install linux-image
[08:37] <tritium> Arinux, why are you going to compile your own kernel?
[08:37] <wickedpuppy> Arinux, sudo apt-get install linux-image
[08:37] <jeavislap> Severian; the 3 yes
[08:37] <Arinux> while upgrading what should i do to get i686 image
[08:37] <booger> dooglus: gxine works great for navigation but no sound. it has the same settup as xine jus different gui
[08:37] <tritium> Arinux, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:37] <yosef> does anyone here run a system with hebrew?
[08:38] <Arinux> tritium:but does it have vanilla kernel and the ck patch
[08:38] <dooglus> Arinux: I don't know how to build a 686 kernel.  maybe if you build on a 686 machine you get a 686 kernel by default?  I don't know.
[08:38] <Arinux> noo dooglus, its like the kernel is built for that architecture
[08:38] <jeavislap> Severian; I have the same result
[08:38] <DejaVudew> Are the backports down? Mine don't work for Badger
[08:38] <tritium> Arinux, no
[08:39] <waime> hi
[08:39] <DejaVudew> or Breezy
[08:39] <wickedpuppy> DejaVudew, topic
[08:39] <waime> !tell waime about webcam
[08:39] <DejaVudew> lol
[08:39] <DejaVudew> <-- moron
[08:39] <dooglus> Arinux: oh, I see.  make sure you have "CONFIG_M686=y" in the config then
[08:39] <aero> to where should i download debs that i want to install manually ?
[08:40] <dooglus> Arinux: when you "make gconfig" you'll find the 686 option somewhere.  or you can just edit the .config file by hand.
[08:40] <spiderworm> hi all, im thinking about upgrading my hoary mythtv box to breezy, it also has nvidia 3d acceleration working, if i upgrade to breezy, do you guys think i will break the 3d accel and mythtv?
[08:40] <dooglus> Arinux: start by copying the config* file from /boot into .config in the kernel source dir
[08:40] <thoreauputic> aero: it doesn't really matter - $HOME is as good a place as any
[08:40] <wickedpuppy> aero, anywhere ? in one of the directories in ya home dir i suppose
[08:40] <waime> aero: anywhere you want. I have a /home/me/Downloads for that, but the desktop is fine, so long as you remember to delete them after....
[08:40] <Arinux> okay
[08:40] <glyn> as far as I can tell the only thing taking up space is this wine compiling that I'm doing
[08:40] <aero> i was thinking of the same place that apt downloaded the debs to?
[08:40] <aero> or is that daft
[08:40] <glyn> so far it's taken like 500 mb
[08:40] <thoreauputic> aero: not necessary
[08:41] <aero> kk ta
[08:41] <glyn> it must be in packages where It's taking up the most memory
[08:41] <thoreauputic> aero: once installed they appear in the cache anyway
[08:41] <tritium> spiderworm, no, it won't break
[08:41] <aero> oh ok
[08:41] <glyn> anyone know if I can find a list of what packages I have?
[08:41] <wickedpuppy> glyn, synaptic
[08:41] <tritium> glyn, dpkg -l
[08:41] <thoreauputic> glyn: dpkg -l | less  is advisable ;)
[08:42] <tritium> or redirect it to a file
[08:42] <thoreauputic> yes
[08:42] <tritium> Arinux, if you're going to compile a kernel, look into installing kernel-package so you can build a .deb of your custom kernel
[08:42] <johnw> i have seriously jacked myself.  /etc/sudoers somehow changed owners to root:named and now no sudo command works.  I can't even delete the user named because sudo doesn't work.  HELP! sudo su doesn't work either
[08:43] <glyn> is it possible I could paste my packages on a pastebin and someone could tell me what I probably won't need?
[08:43] <tritium> johnw, can you reboot into rescue mode and fix it?
[08:43] <waime> I'm having SEVERE v4l troubles trying to use the webcam - It assassinates my 64bitBreezy everytime I use it. Any help?
[08:43] <johnw> tritium: haven't tried that yet...
[08:43] <tritium> no, glyn, there are too many packages to atempt to look through
[08:43] <glyn> all I really need on the comp is mp3 support, emulation support, vb support, flash support, Java, and the basic stuff needed for gnome and gaim and xchat
[08:43] <johnw> tritium: but I"m not sure if thaty can help
[08:43] <tritium> attempt, that is
[08:43] <tritium> johnw, it should.  give it a tary
[08:43] <tritium> try
[08:43] <johnw> ok
[08:43] <johnw> i'll be back
[08:43] <glyn> tritium:that's the only way I'll be able to do free space without crashing my computer
[08:43] <thoreauputic> johnw: if you boot to recovery mode you should get a root prompt
[08:44] <Fletch> thoreauputic, do you know if xfce4 is on the ubuntu CD?
[08:44] <tritium> glyn, only you can decide what you need/want
[08:44] <aftertaf> ill try again.... :)
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Fletch: no, not on the CD
[08:44] <glyn> tritium:I can't, last time I did that I didn't have gnome anymore
[08:44] <thoreauputic> Fletch: it's in Universe
[08:44] <glyn> tritium:and it took me like 5 hours on a black screen to get it back
[08:45] <Fletch> universe?
[08:45] <tritium> glyn, have you cleaned out your apt cache?  (apt-get clean)
[08:45] <glyn> tritium:yes that helped a little
[08:45] <kandoora_> if i wanna download a package and it's got depends, would the depends get uninstalled when i completely remove the original package?
[08:45] <DeFi> glyn delete your /tmp/* and your /var/log/* to start
[08:45] <glyn> tritium:but not enough to complete this compiling
[08:45] <thoreauputic> Fletch: if you are starting from a base "server" install you'll need the internet I think
[08:45] <tritium> kandoora_, if you use aptitude, yes
[08:45] <dooglus> glyn: "debfoster" is useful for getting rid of packages you don't need
[08:46] <tritium> kandoora_, but you'd have to have used aptitude to install it as well as uninstall it
[08:46] <Fletch> thoreauputic, what If I downloaded the packages onto my thumbdrive
[08:46] <kandoora_> tritium: how about synaptic
[08:46] <tritium> kandoora_, I don't use synaptic, but I don't think so...
[08:46] <thoreauputic> Fletch: you can try - but make sure you get all dependencies or it won't install
[08:46] <kandoora_> tritium, as in apt-get
[08:47] <aero> bbl
[08:47] <tritium> kandoora_, no
[08:47] <Fletch> Well what do I need again
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Fletch:  apt-cache depends xfce4  should give you an idea
[08:47] <kandoora_> tritium: what is aptitued
[08:47] <tritium> kandoora_, apt-cache show aptitude, and you'll see
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Fletch: it would be easier to use another wm like fluxbox (less dependencies)
[08:48] <hawking> Are there any special settings that I should set as installing ubuntu to my laptop? I have been trying for hours but it doesn't work
[08:48] <hawking> is there a wiki page for ubuntu and laptops_
[08:48] <tritium> hawking, please be more specific
[08:48] <hawking> tritium: ok
[08:48] <Fletch> ok
[08:48] <hawking> tritium: The first time I tried to install...
[08:48] <Fletch> Ill use that then
[08:49] <kandoora_> tritium: so since i've been using synaptic all along to install and uninstall, does that mean that i have a lot of residue and junk
[08:49] <Fletch> is there any that come with the ubuntu CD?
[08:49] <tritium> kandoora_, you may, if you've uninstalled various packages
[08:49] <thoreauputic> Fletch: no, becuse the CD is "ubuntu-desktop" which is Gnome
[08:49] <thoreauputic> *because
[08:49] <tritium> kandoora_, look into using deborphan and debfoster
[08:49] <hawking> tritium: everything went allright until I get the CD out and reboot the computer and then the hotplug didn't work
[08:50] <kandoora_> tritium, anyway of checking what's the junk
[08:50] <Fletch> ok
[08:50] <kandoora_> tritium, what's deborphan and debfoster
[08:50] <tritium> kandoora_, tools to help you with what you're doing.  please apt-cache show <packagename> to find out for yourself
[08:51] <sword> hey
[08:51] <hawking> tritium: no ideas of a solution?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Fletch: since you are installing X from scratch, you will probably need to run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure it
[08:52] <sword> any of you tried mounting a HFS or HFS+ fs on ubuntu?
[08:52] <tritium> hawking, I'm looking...
[08:52] <thoreauputic> sword: yes - workds fine
[08:52] <thoreauputic> *works
[08:52] <sword> how did you do it th?
[08:52] <sword> err
[08:52] <sword> thoreauputic, ?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> at least hfsplus
[08:52] <thoreauputic> sword: make a line in /etc/fstab
[08:53] <aftertaf> Seveas> you around man? little hiccup with my nat... and as it is your script, was wondering if you could point me on to the right track... ?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> sword: I'm not on my iBook or I'd give you my synatx...
[08:53] <thoreauputic> *syntax
[08:53] <thoreauputic> sword: from memeory the filesystem type is written  " hfsplus"
[08:54] <hawking> someone pls help...I am trying to install ubuntu to my laptop but after the installation from CD when I reboot the computer it just gets stuck as launching hotplug
[08:54] <thoreauputic> someone correct that if you know...
[08:54] <sword> im not sure if this is a hfs or hfsplus filesystem
[08:54] <Arinux> hawking press cntrl+c at that stage
[08:54] <sword> i'm trying to recover data from this hdd i have
[08:54] <thoreauputic> sword: if it's OS-X I think itwould be hfsplus
[08:55] <sword> ahh
[08:55] <tritium> hawking, what kind of USB devices are connected right now?
[08:56] <thoreauputic> sword: if you don't want to edit fstab I guess  you can do   sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdX /mnt   or similar
[08:57] <thoreauputic> where X is the relevant device like  hda4  or whatever
[08:57] <hawking> tritium: a camera
[08:58] <tshepo> hi guys I am not sure whether I am in the right room cause I am new to this. I have a problem with installing sun-j2re1.5
[08:58] <tritium> hawking, try unplugging it during installation
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell tshepo about javadeb
[08:58] <hawking> tritium: I can't it is above the screen of the laptop and fixed
[08:58] <hawking> it is a tiny thing
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hmm is ubotu down?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ubotu test
[08:59] <tritium> hawking, hmm...
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hmmm ubotu is not well....
[08:59] <tshepo> I tried to search the wiki but could not get the solution
[09:00] <hawking> tritium: any other ideas? maybe a boot parameter that will do the same?
[09:00] <Java_the_Hutt> do you know a good Mono ide for linux ?
[09:00] <tritium> hawking, you can try disabling USB in the BIOS temporarily
[09:00] <sword> thoreauputic, getting error ;\
[09:01] <thoreauputic> sword: what error ?
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> Java_the_Hutt, mono has ide i think
[09:01] <sword> can I PM you the message?
[09:01] <hawking> hmm how is it done?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> sword: pastebin it
[09:01] <sword> k
[09:02] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414527
[09:02] <thoreauputic> looking...
[09:02] <tshepo> does anyone know where I can get help about installing sun-j2re1.5 and freemind. I used instruction of the Ubuntuguide but I get problems with unment dependencies when I try to install sun-j2re1.5
[09:03] <tritium> hawking, depends on your bios
[09:03] <thoreauputic> sword: not /dev/hda  - you need tospecify the partition
[09:03] <thoreauputic> sword:  like /dev/hda4 or whatever :  sudo fdisk -l to see
[09:03] <hawking> tritium what does the options noapic and nolapic do as I boot?
[09:04] <tritium> tshepo, build your own java .deb with Sun's .bin installer and the ubuntu package "java-package"
[09:04] <ubotu> Passed.
[09:04] <tritium> there he is...
[09:04] <thoreauputic> wow that took a while ubotu ...
[09:04] <sword> thoreauputic, its giving me /dev/hda
[09:04] <sword> holdup ill pastebin the output
[09:05] <thoreauputic> sword: no, it will give you a list
[09:05] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414529
[09:05] <sword> yeah
[09:05] <tritium> they always quit before you have time to reply...
[09:07] <thoreauputic> sword: ah you're using raid? Sorry that's beyond my experience level
[09:07] <NutterUK> hello can someone tell me what is the differnece between all the distros? Ive tried a couple of livecd's and I cant find any really
[09:07] <highvoltage> is it safe to dist-upgrade from warty to breezy
[09:07] <thoreauputic> sword: evidently you have scsi or sata discs... ?
[09:07] <sword> thoreauputic, yeah
[09:07] <dooglus> Arinux: did you try the -ck patches before with ubuntu?  how well do they work?
[09:07] <sword> thoreauputic, but the drive isnt a raid drive
[09:07] <sword> sda and md* files are raid and lvm
[09:07] <dooglus> highvoltage: I've read that it's not safe.  you should go via hoary.
[09:08] <sword> but i have the drive im trying to get the data off...its by itself
[09:08] <sword> a PATA drive
[09:08] <thoreauputic> sword: you need to specify in your mount command - for instance if it's /dev/sdb1  etc
[09:09] <sword> well I just put it in place of my cdrom drive
[09:09] <sword> which is /dev/hda
[09:09] <thoreauputic> sword: but since I don't really undersdstand the raid stuff, maybe someone else can help you
[09:09] <NutterUK> hello can someone tell me what is the differnece between all the distros? Ive tried a couple of livecd's and I cant find any really
[09:09] <sword> ignore the raid stuff, it really shouldnt matter
[09:09] <sword> thanks for helping me btw
[09:10] <thoreauputic> sword: OK - well just try specifying the particular partition as above I guess
[09:11] <thoreauputic> sword: I only see linux partittions in that output...
[09:11] <aagantuk> while installing vlc i get error : Depends : dbus-1 (>=0.23.4) but it is nmot going to install
[09:11] <dooglus> thoreauputic: is there any good reason to use ubuntu's 2.6.12 kernel rather than a vanilla 2.6.14 kernel?
[09:11] <aagantuk> but i have latst dbus installed
[09:12] <sword> df -h output
[09:12] <sword> http://pastebin.com/414532
[09:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: no idea , sorry - i would assume the ubuntu version is pretty heavily patched ?
[09:12] <megamind> how do install bind
[09:12] <aagantuk> also same error libha10
[09:13] <dooglus> aagantuk: are you using non-standard repositories?
[09:13] <Severian> jeavislap, are you still with me?
[09:13] <aagantuk> dooglus : i just added vlan and skype repo to defaults
[09:13] <thoreauputic> sword: erm - I thought this was on a mac? why the #
[09:13] <thoreauputic> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[09:14] <sword> no this isnt on a mac
[09:14] <thoreauputic> that's a 386 kernel....
[09:14] <sword> yeah
[09:14] <sword> im trying to get files off of a hfs drive
[09:14] <sword> my bad
[09:14] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:15] <Ugel> The Ubuntu Disk Manager doesn't seem to let me set write access for partitions. Is there an Ubuntu way to do that?
[09:16] <aagantuk> dooglus : what might be the problem >?
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ugel: if it's an NTFS partition, you can't write to it in LInux, not safely
[09:18] <glyn> how do I set up a root password?
[09:19] <Ugel> Madpilot: Well, there have been recent improvements in that, but this doesn't just concern NTFS partitions.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> glyn: you really don't need to
[09:19] <glyn> thoreauputic:I do for this program I'm running
[09:19] <thoreauputic> glyn: but if you feel you must, you can  do     sudo passwd root
[09:20] <glyn> thoreauputic:thanks
[09:20] <Ugel> Madpilot: In my case, not NTFS at all. These are VFAT partitions.
[09:21] <megamind> where do i find the reference for bind ?
[09:21] <Ugel> So do I have to manually modify fstab or does Ubuntu provide anything to do that for me?
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[09:22] <ubotu> hmm... mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically)
[09:22] <odie5533> Can anyone here tell me how to set-up a SVN Server on Ubuntu?
[09:22] <Ugel> thoreauputic: Neither Windows nor Mac partitions.
[09:23] <Ugel> *These are
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Ugel: erm , but vfat ? Same principle
[09:23] <thoreauputic> Ugel: putting   umask=000  in fstab should do it I guess
[09:24] <DejaVudew> are the ati drivers the same between Breezy and Hoary?
[09:24] <Ugel> thoreauputic: Yes. I was more concerned about whether Ubuntu had something available for people didn't have a clue what they were doing.
[09:25] <DejaVudew> I'm looking here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28driver%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28graphics%29
[09:25] <alekz> wich is the command for take a screenshot from terminal
[09:25] <alekz> ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> Ugel: heh - this is a weak point in Ubuntu in my opinion - these kinds of partitions tend not to be recognised correctly
[09:25] <thoreauputic> alekz: in X?
[09:25] <Madpilot> DejaVudew: the Hoary instructions seem to work for some people - I had to follow the "reconfigure w/o X running" part of that page to get 3d accel running here
[09:25] <Ugel> thoreauputic: It doesn't have a problem recognizing mine...
[09:25] <alekz> thoreauputic, X or gnome