[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: once you reinstall all the named ones, you will be ok
[12:51] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: thanks, looks like this did the trick!
[12:52] <ubu_> can any one help me get wifi radar work ? , i can use my wifi with the network program normaly
[12:52] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: should be good to try reboot and see if it doesn't go through checkings???
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> !log > ubu_
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: sure why not
[12:52] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: ok, thank mate!
[12:56] <neko> can any one tell me, where i can get skype for ubuntu? :-/ i have troubles,.. i am beginer
[12:57] <jrib> !skype | neko
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> neko: enable partner repo and install from there
[12:57] <neko> thanx for advices! i am going to try
[12:58] <ubu_> can any one help me to get wifi radar work pls
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: what wifi chip are you using?
[13:04] <s0u][ight> hello, i added something to the community pages, can anyone confirm i did it the good way/ on the correct page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UVC (the part titled "WebCam SCB-0385N, SC-0311139N and SC-03FFL11939N")
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: what wifi chip are you using?
[13:05] <gsommer> In Ubuntu Classic (Gnome fallback), my mouse pointer sensitivity is missing fro the gnome-control-center. What could be causing this ? (I only have general settings, like right/left mode, and double-click speed)
[13:05] <imad7> BCM
[13:07] <imad7>  /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS
[13:08] <imad7>  /ignore JOINS PARTS
[13:08] <Mattias> I installed mysql, messed something up so it wouldn't start, tried to remove and purge the install again, I also manually deleted /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql after the uninstall.. now it won't fully install mysql again? How can I get it to install all files again?
[13:08] <imad7> can any one help me to get wifi radar work pls
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: which broadcom?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> !broadcom | imad7
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: sudo lshw -C network
[13:14] <zykotick9> Mattias: i'm unsure if apt-get allows the same option?  but you might want to try: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename
[13:15] <Mattias> zykotick9, I'll try that if the thing I'm trying now won't work :) thanks
[13:15] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPalsnip: now I'm having a different error message: Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:17] <[OS]Cazazo> oh, man... this ubuntu is annoying me now...
[13:18] <[OS]Cazazo> any one could help me???
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[13:18] <rockcoco> hello?
[13:19] <rockcoco> HI?
[13:19] <powhatan> Hello
[13:19] <rockcoco> COOL!
[13:19] <powhatan> I'm a newb but i will try to help
[13:19] <rockcoco> LOL I NEED SOME HELP
[13:19] <powhatan> What's your issue?
[13:20] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod: missing operand after `./fixpackage' Try `chmod --help' for more information. sudo: ./fixpackage: command not found
[13:20] <rockcoco> I can't install a theme
[13:20] <powhatan> Which theme?
[13:21] <rockcoco> for GNOME
[13:21] <Pici> !details
[13:21] <powhatan> What version of Ubuntu are you useing?
[13:21] <rockcoco> 13.04
[13:22] <powhatan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V1gKPK4kfM
[13:23] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage chmod: missing operand after `./fixpackage' Try `chmod --help' for more information. sudo: ./fixpackage: command not found
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: sorry, chmod +x ./fixpackage
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: then:  sudo ./fixpackage
[13:24] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[13:24] <rockcoco> anyone?
[13:24] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod: cannot access `./fixpackage': No such file or directory
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: did the file download ok?
[13:25] <powhatan> I posted a link to a video about themes rockoco
[13:25] <powhatan> specifically 13.04
[13:25] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, A link to youtube is not enough details explain your problem the best you can.
[13:25] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: when I did the update before it reads the list gives the error message
[13:26] <rockcoco> OK...
[13:27] <powhatan> I thought it may be a good start
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, To the channel so we all can look and see it.
[13:27] <rockcoco> but how...
[13:27] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: stops at 84% the reading package lists... then comes with the error messages
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, How what?
[13:28] <[OS]Cazazo> now I have a pop up message box for report a problem detected
[13:28] <rockcoco> how go to the channel?
[13:29] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: it asks for my password... I do type it and it says the password is wrong...
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, Your on the channel, explain the problem your having.
[13:29] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: I believe the correct term for the current condition of your system is "hosed".  Did you do the fsck suggested earlier?
[13:29] <rockcoco> got it..
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[13:30] <utfans05> jhutchins, ROFL
[13:30] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins,  utfans05 That hardly helps
[13:30] <[OS]Cazazo> yes... checks for errors... I then ask to fix them.. didn't work
[13:30] <[OS]Cazazo> I don't think is a disk error... but something in the system
[13:31] <utfans05> [OS]Cazazo, how many errors are on the disk?
[13:31] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: You're entitled to your opinion, but if it's been triggering filesystem checks there's a reason.
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> that was after the last update...
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> every thing was just right before it...
[13:32] <lauris> any has an idea why package dependency fails in this situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966414/ ?
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> now I have this damn problem
[13:32] <lauris> anyone*
[13:33] <[OS]Cazazo> when trying to send the error reports, it says that could not determined what package is the problem
[13:33] <utfans05> lauris, try doing a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, then try reinstalling.
[13:33] <wiehan> can one user be a part of more than one group?
[13:33] <lauris> utfans05, did that already
[13:33] <[OS]Cazazo> I have dual boot in this machine and windows is working just fine!
[13:33] <lauris> didn't help
[13:34] <lauris> also how would upgrade help ??
[13:34] <[OS]Cazazo> if was the HD... I should have problems there as well
[13:34] <yeats> lauris: are you using PPAs or other non-standard repos?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> wiehan  use     groups     to find out what groups you're part of
[13:34] <lauris> yes. zabby-proxy is from Zabbix's repo
[13:34] <utfans05> lauris, just to make sure you didnt have a package that needed upgrading so that it was compatible with the dependencies.
[13:35] <lauris> there's no such package.
[13:35] <[OS]Cazazo> I don't understand why it asks for my super user password and then says it's wrong...
[13:35] <lauris> when I install this libiodbc2 package manually
[13:35] <[OS]Cazazo> that's weird
[13:35] <lauris> it works fine with zabbix-proxy then
[13:35] <lauris> it only fails when I try to install it as a dependency of zabbix-proxy
[13:36] <wiehan> MonkeyDust, that's not the problem I have plexmediaserver running and it makes itself part of the group "plex", but all files and folders have ownership and permissions set up for the users..   Lets move on.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> just ignore it , happens once in a while
[13:42] <ForensicNerd> How does one make their code available for download via apt-get?
[13:42] <RagingAvatar> Well. That was pleasant.
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> I would assume you create an appropriate package and make it available on an apt server?
[13:43] <rockcoco> How can I use iTunes on Ubuntu?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> well , 15 secs of fame on ubuntu :)
[13:43] <zykotick9> !ppa | ForensicNerd
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> (I've never looked into.)
[13:43] <Pici> !newppa | ForensicNerd
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> ForensicNerd, apt-get is directed at ubuntu repos, or a repo in the sources.list
[13:43] <bkfitz> I'm currently running proftpd on 10.04, but I'm concerned about passwords being passed in clear text... has anyone set up sftp for proftpd and/or have any recommendations for me?
[13:43] <ForensicNerd> Thanks everyone!
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> rockcoco: What are you trying to do? Literally you want to run iTunes or is there some functionality you're looking for?
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, This a server only?
[13:44] <bkfitz> wilnee-nilee: yea
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, Cool, just making sure.
[13:44] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: apache, php, mysql, postgres, etc
[13:45] <bkfitz> want to give a dev ability to ftp code into wwwroot
[13:45] <rockcoco> I need a software...Can Ubuntu run iTunes?
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, There is #ubuntu-server as well. for the record.
[13:45] <ikonia> rockcoco: no
[13:45] <RagingAvatar> rockcoco: No, it can't. What are you trying to achieve?
[13:45] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: this is ubuntu server
[13:46] <bkfitz> oh.. sorry
[13:46] <bkfitz> gotcha
[13:46] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[13:46] <rockcoco> oh...
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> rockcoco  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[13:47] <powhatan> rythym box used to support some older apple devices
[13:47] <powhatan> to retrieve images
[13:47] <chrs_> any channel for chrubuntu talk?
[13:48] <chrs_> #chrubuntu is almost empty
[13:48] <ikonia> chrs_: it's nothing to do with #ubuntu, ask #freenode how to search for channels
[13:48] <rockcoco> how about iPhone?
[13:48] <powhatan> You can also use ubuntu 1 to sync images from your iphone
[13:48] <rockcoco> cool!
[13:48] <powhatan> Get the ubuntu 1 iphone app
[13:48] <powhatan> Sign up for an Ubuntu 1 account
[13:48] <powhatan> 5GB of storage
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> !enter > powhatan
[13:49] <powhatan> 500MB for every recommendation you give
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> if itunes would port to ubuntu it would be amazing and apple would actually profit
[13:49] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[13:49] <wilee-nilee> ActionPa1snip, Heaven forbid the biggest bank account in the west.
[13:49] <rockcoco> not gone happen...
[13:50] <powhatan> sorry wilee-nilee
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> I dont use apple products but annoyed users are a different thing
[13:51] <nenya> Allrighty
[13:51] <RagingAvatar> hey
[13:51] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: no answers in #ubuntu-server
[13:51] <bkfitz> :(
[13:51] <BluesKaj> never understood the itunes appeal
[13:52] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, It happens patience is the key word, that question might get better answers on the ubuntu forums and on research on the web
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <wilee-nilee> nenya, do you have a support isue?
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <FloodBot1> nenya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[13:55] <nenya> Is there a way to run ubuntu 13.04 without unity?
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> nenya, Yes use another desktop
[13:55] <ikonia> nenya: yes, use any desktop you want
[13:55] <ikonia> nenya: you can even install ubuntu without unity, using kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu so you don't have to change anything out of the box
[13:56] <nenya> But, the thing is, 12.04 is unity too! but i want to use 13.04 without unity
[13:56] <ikonia> nenya: re-read what I said
[13:57] <ikonia> nenya: what desktop do you want to use if you don't want unity ?
[13:57] <rockcoco> uninstall it.
[13:57] <nenya> One closest to ubuntu 13.04 without unity
[13:58] <ikonia> nenya: what desktop do you want to use if you don't want to use unity
[13:58] <rockcoco> GNOME 3 make it looks like a cellphone...
[13:59] <nenya> Kubuntu is kinda annoying, xubuntu is a annoying rat, lubuntu is way to simple for what i'm using... so is xubuntu\
[13:59] <Moe> ubottu is a  bot!
[13:59] <ikonia> nenya: so what desktop do you WANT to use
[14:00] <nenya> Gnome VER 2
[14:00] <Moe> YOU ARE A DRONE!
[14:00] <ikonia> Moe: stop it
[14:00] <curatrix> xtree gold
[14:00] <ikonia> Moe: it's an authorized bot
[14:00] <nenya> who?
[14:00] <nenya> is a drone?
[14:00] <dinomuffin> what functionality are you looking for in gnome that xfce or kde couldn't do?
[14:00] <ikonia> nenya: there is a desktop called "mate" which is a fork of the dead gnome 2 project, it's totally unsupported though
[14:01] <Moe> @$$$$$$@@
[14:01] <nenya> Microsoft word 2010
[14:01] <dinomuffin> uhhhhh
[14:01] <ikonia> nenya: please don't make random comments
[14:01] <ikonia> nenya: we are engaging your to help you - if you don't want help or want to help others please don't make comments.
[14:01] <Shadowandlight> im trying to figure out how to do a migration from a home unbuntu server to a VPS one as painlessly as possible..... http://askubuntu.com/questions/330285/migration-to-remote-installation
[14:01] <BluesKaj> openbox window manager , might be to your taste , nenya
[14:01] <OerHeks> nenya cinnamon is in the repo's too
[14:02] <nenya> Is that linux mint?
[14:02] <arche_jeff> In vi, if I want to replace ('08-08-2013' with ('08-07-2013'  how do I do that? I tried s/('08-08-2013'/('08-07-2013' but it munges the replacement. I tried s/\(... but it says the \( is unmatched
[14:03] <rockcoco> macbuntu is a good choice
[14:03] <ikonia> rockcoco: macbuntu doesn't exist
[14:03] <ikonia> rockcoco: stop making random comments such as gnome 3 makes it look like a phone and use macubuntu
[14:03] <rockcoco> ikonia,what..
[14:04] <jkoudys> on raring - I copied over my private ssh key from my old install. When I ssh it prompts me for the private key password, and that works. I used to have the private key password cached in the keychain every session so I would only have to type it in once after login, but now I have to type it in each and every time I ssh. How do I get it in my gnome keyring?
[14:10] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[14:12] <auronandace> roots47_: hold down the super key, that should show you some shortcuts
[14:14] <rockcoco> everyone,how can I add some icons to the desktop?
[14:18] <Moe> ubottu IS A DRONE!!!
[14:18] <Pici> Moe: Do you actually have an Ubuntu question or are you just randomly saying things?
[14:18] <Moe> ubottu You are a drone everyone run!
[14:28] <ninjaaa> hi, who provides sup here?
[14:28] <ikonia> ninjaaa: the whole channel
[14:29] <AGUY123123> http://boards.fool.com/freemasonry-this-cult-cant-question-itself-30790561.aspx?sort=whole#30818022
[14:29] <AGUY123123> http://boards.fool.com/freemasonry-this-cult-cant-question-itself-30790561.aspx?sort=whole#30818022
[14:29] <thubtumbing>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[14:30] <ninjaaa> Tell me plz how to instl skype @ xubuntu through terminal, skype doesn't execute from skype website
[14:30] <ninjaaa> if possible
[14:30] <ikonia> !skype | ninjaaa
[14:30] <ninjaaa> ty
[14:36] <raub> I put 13.04 in my laptop. one thing I found interesting is that it would connect to the wireless network I configured in network manager in my account. The kicker is that it connected while I am at the login screen, not in my account.
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> raub: tried unloading then reloading the wifi module?
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> raub: or any switch / shortcut to enable / disable wifi?
[14:45] <raub> ActionPa1snip: not in my account, the only one in laptop. I did notice that because I rebooted it and it just reported the wireless network connection in the login screen
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> raub: try the unload reload
[14:58] <tux_> .
[14:58] <thecodethinker> I have a bluetooth mouse that goes to sleep automatically after a few mins to save battery but when I wake it up it doesn't reconnect to the computer. I have to turn it on discoverable for ubuntu to connect to it. On windows it just reconnects.... is there a way to get ubuntu to do that?
[15:02] <wushu> i am having some trouble with the nvidia drivers for a gtx 670 on a fresh install of 12.04. would someone be able to help me out with this?
[15:03] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: do yo uhave a switchable GPU (ivy/sandybridge Intel CPU)
[15:03] <rhumbot> hi all, i was wondering if there is a program to bring back 3 finger window movement?
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: sudo lshw -C display
[15:04] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: my cpu is an i7 3820 3.6 ghz
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: cool, no Intel GPU stinking the place up
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: what is the issue
[15:05] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: PCI (sysfs) - lshw output
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: your pci bus is slow, wait a bit
[15:06] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: ok
[15:06] <thecodethinker> I have a bluetooth mouse that goes to sleep automatically after a few mins to save battery but when I wake it up it doesn't reconnect to the computer. I have to turn it on discoverable for ubuntu to connect to it. On windows it just reconnects.... is there a way to get ubuntu to do that?
[15:06] <wushu>   *-display
[15:06] <wushu>        description: VGA compatible controller
[15:06] <wushu>        product: NVIDIA Corporation
[15:06] <wushu>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[15:06] <wushu>        physical id: 0
[15:06] <FloodBot1> wushu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <wushu>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[15:08] <angs> I installed ubuntu on widows 8 via usb pendrive. I created swap partition and ext4 partition. I disabled secure and fast boot from the bios. but grub2 does not appear on the boot, it only boots from windows 8. Is there any one who managed to install ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8?
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: use http://pastie.org   or similar to host the text
[15:08] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: the problem is things seem a bit choppy, like when dragging windows around its not smooth at all
[15:09] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: will use that next time sry
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: it will give us the detail we need
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: we didnt see the text, the bot cut it off
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: as it should
[15:09] <wushu> ah ok 2 sec
[15:11] <wushu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966703/
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> angs, Here is a thread on many uefi issues for you to peruse. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:13] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: could try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig      then reboot to test
[15:13] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: thx will try
[15:14] <thecodethinker> Is there a way to auto reconnect a mouse that turns itself after so much time? In windows as soon as I right click it comes back on a reconnects.
[15:14] <ikonia> thecodethinker: sounds like that maybe a propritary driver function
[15:14] <ikonia> thecodethinker: does the mouse actually power back on with a right click, or just re-connect
[15:15] <thecodethinker> ikonia: it goes into a kind of sleep mode i think. the power light is completly off and when I click it turns on
[15:15] <ikonia> thecodethinker: ok, so that functionality should not change with your OS, the thing that may change is the reconnect if thats a driver function
[15:16] <ikonia> thecodethinker: right clicking should power it back on, as thats nothing to do with the OS
[15:16] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I know... it still does that.
[15:16] <thecodethinker> ikonia: it's the auto reconnecting.... I need to se the mouse to discoverable
[15:17] <ikonia> thecodethinker: that sounds like it's going to be a function of the driver,
[15:17] <thecodethinker> even if I switch the connection setting to on it won't work unless it's discoverable
[15:17] <thecodethinker> ikonia: that might be it... it's a razer orochi
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I don't recall installing the driver in windows though....
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I've only had this box for a week.....
[15:18] <Puma1337> i'm having an issue right now on a server where the load is 52 but looking at htop i can't see anything that would be causing it to behave that way.  any pointers?
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: is there something like wine that would work for drivers like the razer one?
[15:19] <ikonia> Puma1337: what does top show ?
[15:19] <ikonia> thecodethinker: nah
[15:19] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I remember there being one for wireless drivers...
[15:19] <thecodethinker> ikonia: :'(
[15:20] <Puma1337> ikonia, http://i.imgur.com/LmlMfhr.png
[15:20] <ikonia> Puma1337: I asked for top output, but look at the load on your mysql and apache processes !
[15:20] <ikonia> Puma1337: they are very busy
[15:21] <wibrt> does anyone know of program to create a live cd based upon the OS that is running (and thus? from that OS)
[15:21] <Sazpaimon_> How can I make an ubuntu server have the same isntalled packages as another ubuntu server?
[15:21] <ikonia> Puma1337: unless this machine is huge, it's going to be very very busy
[15:21] <Puma1337> ikonia, where are you seeing that? it shows only 3% usage for apache
[15:21] <djiefo> How can i have permission to add games in /usr/shared/games?
[15:21] <Sazpaimon_> that is, without doing an OS clone
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: you have no ram left
[15:22] <djiefo> I mean games that already installed... I just want to move it
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: look at the top line !
[15:22] <ActionPa1snip> djiefo: gksudo nautilus      and you can put files where you wish
[15:22] <wibrt> ikonia: quick way, look for get and set-selections of apt-get
[15:22] <ikonia> vila: what ?
[15:22] <Dozy> wibrt: you are talking about turning the ubuntu your using into a live CD? so same app's and everything?
[15:22] <djiefo> ActionPa1snip,  thx :)
[15:22] <Puma1337> ikonia, i know that but based on the processes i don't see what is taking the memory do you?
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: apache and mysqld are killing your machine
[15:22] <wibrt> yes Dozy
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> wibrt  there used to be remastersys, not sure if it's still being maintained
[15:23] <Dozy> ok the issue you will run into is that the linux kernel won't support over 4G
[15:23] <Puma1337> ikonia, any way to figure out why?
[15:23] <Dozy> and Remastersys is your only option
[15:23] <angs> when I download ubuntu 13.04, the file name is ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .does amd represents the processor? Is there a special iso file for intel i7 as well?
[15:23] <ikonia> Puma1337: checking the logs ?
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: you can make your own ubuntu based distro using a chroot and can even run updates etc
[15:23] <Dozy> needs to be an os of less than 4G's
[15:23] <daftykins> angs: no it works for both, amd64 means all 64-bit
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> angs: amd64 will run on intel 64bit too
[15:24] <Puma1337> ikonia, trying but waiting for apache to restart
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> angs: the name just stuck as amd were first to widespread 64bit desktop cpu
[15:24] <ikonia> Puma1337: do not restart it until you have an idea of the problem
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> angs: t just stuck
[15:24] <ikonia> Puma1337: you may have been exploited and your starting the exploit again
[15:24] <angs> ok I see, thanks
[15:24] <wibrt> i know, i was just wondering if there was quick way (remastersys doenst seem to be in the repo at first sight)
[15:25] <Puma1337> ikonia, it has already restarted i sent the commands a while ago -- the server is now functional again
[15:25] <Dozy> when I looked into it Remastersys was the only option I could find.
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: that dosn't change what I've suggested
[15:26] <Puma1337> ikonia, which logs do you suggest i look at?
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: http://alllinuxstuff.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/five-tools-to-build-your-own-ubuntu.html
[15:26] <dnivra> Hello! I was wondering if the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyopencl/+bug/763457 will be backported to the latest LTS release?
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: come on ???
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: you're running this server, do you not have any clue how you've set it up /
[15:27] <Puma1337> ikonia, i know how i've set it up i'm looking at the apache error and mysql logs but i'm not sure what is causing this to happen
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> dnivra: is there not a PPA?
[15:27] <ikonia> Puma1337: look at the load, it wasn't "errors" it was "access"
[15:27] <ikonia> Puma1337: hence why I'm suggesting you shut it down quickly as you may have been compromised
[15:28] <Puma1337> ikonia, i do see this in the apache error log when the issue started this morning [Fri Aug 09 11:04:17 2013] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting
[15:28] <ikonia> Puma1337: come in !!!!! "max clients" = "too many people accessing" = exactly what I've just said "access" not "errors" you may have been compromised/attacked
[15:30] <wiehan> what should the default permission for /home be and then for /home/user respectively, answer may be expressed as octal values ie 755 etc
[15:30] <dnivra> ActionPa1snip: There are 3 - one supports Python 3(I'd like Python 2 since I'm not sure of numpy status in python 3; checking now), the other is for natty and the third has an nvidia package which I'm suspecting will cause issues again.
[15:30] <ikonia> wiehan: you can actually set it to what you want however the norm is owner full control, read/execute for group and everyone else
[15:30] <BluesKaj> is there such a thing as "Updating svn" , I haven't used it in yrs , so i don't recall it's structure and usage
[15:31] <ikonia> wiehan: then individual home directs owner full control, no acceess for group/world
[15:31] <ikonia> BluesKaj: there is, svn up
[15:31] <Puma1337> ikonia, you think it was a dos?
[15:31] <ikonia> Puma1337: lets see, I've got no information to go on.....
[15:31] <ikonia> Puma1337: but I'm advising you to stop the service until you know what it was
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ikonia, thanks
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> dnivra: then I suggest you erport a bug or post on an eisting bug stating that the issue affects you too
[15:33] <ikonia> Puma1337: I suggest you analyise the logs and you should be able to work out if it was an attack or compromised service
[15:34] <dnivra> ActionPa1snip: Alright will do. Let's hope it does get backported. Thank you!
[15:34] <Azamat> does anybody know how to get a less graphics intensive interface for ubuntu?
[15:35] <Azamat> my virtual box or hyper-v lag badly due to graphic processing
[15:35] <daftykins> Azamat: beyond using LXDE/xfce ?
[15:35] <Azamat> i dont know what that is
[15:35] <Puma1337> ikonia, ok thanks
[15:35] <Azamat> i just got ubuntu yesterday bro
[15:35] <daftykins> Azamat: they're alternative desktop environments to ubuntu's default
[15:36] <daftykins> Azamat: consider reading up on how to install them, or just download ISOs to install xubuntu / lubuntu instead
[15:36] <wiehan> how do I remove a user from a group through the cli
[15:36] <llutz> wiehan: sudo deluser username group
[15:37] <wiehan> ty llutz that doesn't rm the user right?
[15:37] <llutz> wiehan: no (man deluser)
[15:40] <don-geforcegt630> hello good evening. I need help with my fresh ubuntu 13.04 installation
[15:40] <Puma1337> ikonia, i'm looking through the apache and mysql logs.  are there any others you suggest i look through?
[15:40] <Dozy> whats the issue don-geforcegt630?
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> i changed my resolution to 1360x768 but now it appears bigger than monitor
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> the entire unity bar is offscreen left
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> http://i40.tinypic.com/21443r5.jpg
[15:41] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[15:41] <nullsign> im proud of my new 404 error page... http://www.nullsign.com/404
[15:42] <don-geforcegt630> im using nvidia drivers 310 because the noveou wouldnt let me use 1360 resolution
[15:42] <Dozy> don-geforcegt630:  can you access the display manager?
[15:42] <don-geforcegt630> yes
[15:42] <Dozy> whats the maximum resolution your display will take?
[15:42] <Dozy> or is that what you picked?
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> max display is 1360x768
[15:43] <Dozy> ok
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> but thats with the nvidia drivers
[15:43] <Dozy> Have you got your Graphic Drivers installed?
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> i used apt-get nvidia-current
[15:43] <Dozy> oh you set this via the drivers configuration?
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> i tried setting via nvidia panel and via display settings
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> both got me the same results
[15:44] <Dozy> hemm..
[15:44] <Dozy> have you done a restart since you installed the drivers?
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> yes
[15:45] <don-geforcegt630> multiple times, everytime i tried to do sometime, i always restart
[15:45] <rhumbot> hi all, im still looking for a solution to be  able to use multitouch gestures (13.04) ?
[15:45] <willows> Sometimes random status messages like "Initializing video... Video Mode: 512 x 448..." will appear in terminal. Is there a way to make it so terminal (and particularly Vim) doesn't display these messages?
[15:46] <Dozy> don-geforcegt630:  what GPU?
[15:46] <don-geforcegt630> nVidia GEFORCE GT 630
[15:47] <Dozy> I always liked the 630
[15:47] <Dozy> anyway I think I found someone with the same issue as you
[15:47] <Dozy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80324/hdmi-vga-connection-cuts-borders-of-screen-or-creates-blurry-text
[15:47] <Dozy> that is the same issue?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> don-geforcegt630, that gpu might run better with one of the experimental drivers
[15:48] <daftykins> don-geforcegt630: are you connected to a TV via HDMI?
[15:48] <don-geforcegt630> im connected to an AOC LED Monitor
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> the link provided gives solution for tvs
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> those options arent available in my nvidia settings
[15:49] <daftykins> don-geforcegt630: via what connection? most LCDs are 1366x768, not 1360 as you've said
[15:49] <funch> ubuntu 12.04 13.04 dont have memorytest support on livecd?
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> VGA connection
[15:49] <BluesKaj> daftykins, that shouldn't matter , i have an entry level 8400gs connected via DVI>HDMI to our plasma tv
[15:49] <daftykins> ugh analogue
[15:50] <daftykins> BluesKaj: were it a TV using HDMI it'd be overscanning. so yeah, it would.
[15:50] <don-geforcegt630> u want me to try a DVI connection?
[15:50] <goddard> http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/00_1910783.html?t=15th
[15:50] <daftykins> digital is best, yes
[15:50] <don-geforcegt630> ok ive never tried DVI. i will try agian. BRB
[15:50] <BluesKaj> don-geforcegt630, absolutely if available
[15:51] <goddard> can some one help me with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/327249/2-amd-7950s-do-not-work-in-crossfire-mode
[15:51] <BluesKaj> most tvs don't have dvi connections , but a dvi hdmi cable is probly needed here
[15:53] <goddard> anyone running AMD cards in crossfire?
[15:53] <budmang> hey guys no matter what, I cant get ubuntu to take the kernel Im giving it, I edited default= to the right number, then tried the name in quotes... nothing.
[15:53] <nullsign> are you with a cloud provider?
[15:54] <nullsign> or is this a local server?
[15:54] <nullsign> budmang: ^
[15:55] <budmang> local
[15:55] <nullsign> some cloud providers use hypervisors which set the kernel in the profile of the instance of the hypervisor, making it impossible to change after boot.
[15:55] <nullsign> ah.. nevermind then
[15:55] <nullsign> boot/setup, typo
[15:56] <budmang> nullsign: i used the number and copy/pasted the quoted text
[15:57] <bounded> hello world
[15:57] <prothon> Hey I have a question about bridge interfaces for QEMU/KVM VM's
[15:57] <nullsign> budmang: did you remove all old kernels?
[15:57] <nullsign> install new one, reboot?
[15:57] <nullsign> i mean, it should jsut work.
[15:57] <budmang> im actually trying to use an older one.
[15:57] <nullsign> ah...
[15:57] <budmang> can I just remove the lines in the boot/grub.conf?
[15:57] <nullsign> yes.
[15:58] <budmang> i ran that after etc..update-grub
[15:58] <nullsign> try this..
[15:58] <nullsign> dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[15:58] <Roots47_> Hey guys... any recommendations on how I could accommodate the use of my adobe creative cloud on Ubuntu?  I wouldn't be opposed to a virtual machine if that's an option, I'm just not sure where to start, or what possible solutions are out there.
[15:58] <thiebaude> prothon, what is your question?
[15:58] <nullsign> should remove all kerbels other than the one you are currently using
[15:58] <nullsign> start from there
[15:58] <nullsign> kernels/
[15:59] <nullsign> the feels.. the nostalgia... http://www.nullsign.com/404
[15:59] <nullsign> awww..
[15:59] <FloodBot1> nullsign: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <Shashank_> Hi, I installed ubuntu 13.04. The brightness keys of my laptop are not working. it is always set to maximum brightness.
[15:59] <prothon> My question is after I set eth0 to manual and add in br0 using dhcp all routes break. I tried to add a default route to the gateway and it still wouldn't transverse to the WAN. THe funny thing is all VM guests are working just fine.
[16:00] <nullsign> prothon: opennebula?
[16:00] <prothon> nullsign: Am I using it? No. Just straight KVM/QEMU on my laptop. Trying to get a few test machines going.
[16:01] <don-geforce630> im back. switching to dvi does no change. still getting the offscreen resolution
[16:01] <tubbo> hey i'm having a bit of an issue, trying to ssh in as the www-data user. i copied my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file into /var/www/.ssh, but it still asks me for a passwd when ssh'ing in
[16:01] <tubbo> using the default www-data user that comes with stock ubuntu
[16:02] <prothon> tubbo: cat /etc/passwd | grep www-data
[16:02] <z0ran> i have alix board, now, my hdd sda and i can also see sdb, is that suppose to be my CFcard
[16:02] <prothon> tubbo: At the end of that it would say /bin/something. What is that something?
[16:02] <tubbo> prothon: /bin/sh
[16:02] <tubbo> so yeah using the bourne shell
[16:02] <prothon> Ok just wanted to make sure.
[16:03] <tubbo> yeah..
[16:03] <tubbo> this was working previously but i'm not sure what i did :)
[16:03] <tubbo> re-cheffed the machine
[16:03] <tubbo> and lost what i did :P
[16:03] <prothon> I'm in the same boot.
[16:03] <don-geforce630> how do i switch from nvidia 310 to 304
[16:03] <prothon> *boat
[16:04] <auronandace> !dash | tubbo
[16:04] <edinny> Where can I put a script so that it will run LAST after boot?
[16:05] <don-geforce630> guys i really need help with this resolution problem
[16:05] <indigo_grey> hello
[16:06] <indigo_grey> is enyone speack russian&
[16:06] <indigo_grey> ?
[16:06] <Pici> !ru | indigo_grey
[16:06] <indigo_grey> !ru
[16:07] <indigo_grey> they wont registration
[16:07] <Pici> !register | indigo_grey
[16:09] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i don't really understand what you say you're seeing
[16:11] <don-geforce630> when i change to 1360x768 resolution, the the entire unity bar and top goes offscreen to the left
[16:11] <don-geforce630> its like the resolution is bigger than the screen itself
[16:11] <daftykins> don-geforce630: what's the exact display make+model?
[16:12] <don-geforce630> AOC 156LM
[16:13] <daftykins> that doesn't seem to come up with anything in searches
[16:14] <thiebaude> don-geforce630, big screen hd tv?
[16:14] <daftykins> don-geforce630: not the LM560 ?
[16:14] <thiebaude> I had the same problem with my 32inch hd tv
[16:15] <don-geforce630> no. its a 15.6-inch lcd monitor
[16:15] <thiebaude> i got the laptop hooked uo to it
[16:15] <goddard> ubuntu has to many graphics issues still
[16:15] <thiebaude> don-geforce630, ahh ok
[16:15] <thiebaude> goddard, i still cant install amd catalyst control centr on ubuntu 13.04
[16:15] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[16:16] <daftykins> don-geforce630: http://us.aoc.com/support/documents/pdf/documents/92 ?
[16:16] <don-geforce630> no
[16:17] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i can't find a result from the model # you gave me
[16:17] <goddard> thiebaude: thats easy
[16:17] <goddard> try crossfire
[16:18] <wiehan> I can't get it the ?permissions right for a network share so that I can write to the folder.. It's an ubuntu 12.04 server. according to the ls -l it shows: drwxr-xr-x I logged in with the user's credentials, why isn't it working? Please assist
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: just download the drivers from the site
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: make them into a package first
[16:18] <thiebaude> goddard, i have, tried everthing
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: i had no issues
[16:18] <thiebaude> borhed it last night, think goodnesss for older kernels
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: what card?
[16:18] <thiebaude> borked it
[16:18] <daftykins> wiehan: you're aware that with samba, you must create a samba password separate to the user's password?
[16:19] <thiebaude> radeon hd 4250
[16:19] <goddard> thiebaude: oh we are using a different driver
[16:19] <wiehan> daftykins, I converted the unix user to samba via webmin - and I can login with that user and access the share, but not write to it?
[16:19] <don-geforce630> here
[16:19] <don-geforce630> http://www.aocmonitorap.com/root/my/product_display.php?id=276
[16:19] <thiebaude> goddard, on ubuntu 12.04, it worked just right
[16:20] <goddard> thiebaude: the good thing is though you can just amdconfig
[16:20] <daftykins> don-geforce630: that's a bit different to the 156LM? :) ok so 1366x768 indeed. is that what you're trying to set in the nvidia settings?
[16:20] <goddard> thiebaude: i cant fix this crossfire thin at all
[16:21] <thiebaude> goddard, im using the open source drivers
[16:21] <don-geforce630> yes. but everytime i do so, via nvidia settings or display settings, it always goes offscreen
[16:21] <wiehan> I can log into a network share, have set the permissions to 755, but I can't write to it. Is it because the server is treating the samba user as a guest or "other" with no write permissions? I really need to get this write
[16:21] <thiebaude> goddard, you try the open source drivers?
[16:22] <goddard> thiebaude: those drivers work but crappy performance
[16:22] <goddard> screen tearing even
[16:22] <thiebaude> godd right now i dont have any problems
[16:22] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[16:22] <daftykins> don-geforce630: with DVI too? i could understand with VGA but that's just weird.
[16:23] <daftykins> don-geforce630: can you take a picture at all?
[16:23] <goddard> thiebaude: then dont get another AMD card for crossfire haha
[16:23] <don-geforce630> ok wait
[16:25] <thiebaude> goddard, i wish i had not got this, but was a birthday present
[16:25] <thiebaude> nvidia rocks on my desktop
[16:25] <thiebaude> :)
[16:25] <goddard> thiebaude: does it work in SLI?
[16:26] <indigo_grey> кто нить говорит по русски??????????
[16:26] <tekk> hey guys, quick question... when using usb ethernet adaptors... you get eth0, eth1, eth2 etc
[16:26] <goddard> no kto Hntb
[16:26] <tekk> when i unplug one from my system... and remove all adaptors... the eth0 is still not removed
[16:26] <don-geforce630> basically the screenshot is perfect since the output's the problem. but from my view, it would look like this on the screen. http://i43.tinypic.com/er0jzk.jpg
[16:26] <tekk> how can i "flush" this device cache
[16:27] <daftykins> don-geforce630: right but you're picking 136_0_ not 1366?
[16:27] <don-geforce630> there is no 1366 option
[16:27] <thiebaude> goddard, the amd?
[16:27] <indigo_grey> тоесть все немцы?
[16:27] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i'd definitely try another driver version if you can then
[16:27] <ikonia> tekk: removed from where ?
[16:27] <don-geforce630> how do i switch from nvidia 310 to 304?
[16:28] <goddard> thiebaude: nah your Nvidia
[16:28] <don-geforce630> i just used apt-get nvidia-current
[16:28] <daftykins> don-geforce630: if you run the additional drivers program it should give you a choice
[16:28] <thiebaude> goddard, yea, no problem at all, im using the proprietary drivers from nvidia
[16:28] <nullsign> don: take knife, cut off 6mm of the gpu
[16:28] <thiebaude> on the desktop that is
[16:28] <goddard> thiebaude: yeah i would buy nvidia had i know this was gonna be an issue
[16:29] <tekk> somewhere in the system (udev or somewhere i dunno) its maintaining a cache of previous ethernet nics
[16:29] <thiebaude> goddard, its ok, just no hdmi sound on the big tv, throught the laptop and no default resolution
[16:30] <daftykins> don-geforce630: so i assume you're in 13.04, run system settings on the left, then click 'Software and updates' and move to the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[16:30] <thiebaude> 1280 by 720 is my max with it hooke up to the tv hooked
[16:31] <thiebaude> hooked up
[16:33] <Nlck> hello
[16:33] <daftykins> hi
[16:34] <Nlck> daftykins how do i change my host?
[16:34] <wiehan> I need help with samba shares, I have a network folder which I can access. Locally I've set up the folder to have permissions of 755. The folder supposedly has guest write access even, but I can't seem to write to the folder
[16:34] <daftykins> Nlck: the name of your computer?
[16:39] <don-geforce630_> im back, tried switching to several nvidia drivers. no luck
[16:39] <Guest74987> hi friends
[16:40] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: still only getting offered 1360 and not 1366?
[16:40] <don-geforce630_> yes
[16:40] <daftykins> still on VGA or DVI?
[16:40] <goddard> do high resolution monitors work in ubuntu?
[16:40] <daftykins> goddard: define high-res
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> im on DVI
[16:41] <sgarg> Hi, I installed ubuntu 13.04. I am facing issues with screen brightness. I can't change brightness using the keyboard. Even the slider at brightness and lock doesn't work, The brightness is set to maximum.
[16:41] <goddard> daftykins: higher then 1080
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> i think the problem is that it cant detect my monitor properly
[16:41] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: yeah seems like it
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> its showing "Unknown" in All Settings->Display
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> and CRT-0 on nvidia settings
[16:41] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[16:42] <Mace268> can someone point me to where i change the samba workgroup name in 13.04?
[16:42] <daftykins> it thinks it's a CRT? 0o
[16:42] <Guest74987> i'm deciding if i should switch a Windows computer to Ubuntu, but I heard people experience a lot of driver issues so i need to know if there is good support for Lexmark multifunction printers, a Radeon HD 3450 graphics card and an ATI TV Wonder PCI card. thanks
[16:42] <daftykins> Mace268: samba config, you're going to need to do some reading up instead of asking for answers to be handed to you i'm afraid.
[16:42] <ikonia> Mace268: in the smb.conf
[16:42] <Guest74987> sgarg, fix the brightness on your monitor
[16:43] <goddard> reading text and reading questions in IRC is so different
[16:43] <Guest74987> they usually have physical buttons
[16:43] <don-geforce630_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966955/
[16:43] <Mace268> thanks google was telling me to get system-config-samba and it errored on me.
[16:43] <ikonia> Mace268: thats a redhat tool
[16:43] <daftykins> Guest74987: you'll need to look up the printer model for support, the graphics card won't be supported by AMD's proprietary fglrx driver, so you'll need to confirm support with the open source 'radeon' driver. as for the TV card - no idea
[16:44] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: you'll want to remove 'nomodeset' from your kernel boot parameter
[16:44] <sgarg> I am using dell laptop. so can't do that.
[16:44] <don-geforce630_> if i do that, it'll send a out of bounds signal to my monitor and the screen will just die
[16:45] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: are you sure it doesn't cause problems for nouveau only - not the nvidia driver?
[16:46] <foobArrr> if I don't have a network connection, e.g. because the network cable is unplugged, Ubuntu waits about two minutes at boot saying "Waiting for network configuration" and "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". 1) why does it do that? 2) how do I prevent that? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:46] <don-geforce630_> what do you mean? I havent been using the noveau drivers since it does go up 1024
[16:46] <ikonia> foobArrr: it's trying to get a dhcp address, that's what it's waiting for
[16:46] <ikonia> foobArrr: disable networking, or change the dhcp time out
[16:47] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: what i mean is, people tend to add 'nomodeset' when the GUI doesn't work at all, so i'm wondering whether you added it after installing the nvidia driver or not
[16:47] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: it's definitely not reading the info from your screen.
[16:47] <don-geforce630_> i added it before the install
[16:47] <don-geforce630_> ill remove it and reboot
[16:48] <sgarg> I am using dell laptop. so can't do that.
[16:48] <holstein> sgarg: cant do what?
[16:49] <holstein> Guest74987: you can try ubuntu live, and see how the hardware support is for you particular devices
[16:50] <don-geforce> ok. removed nomodeset, no change
[16:51] <ActionPa1snip> don-geforce: tried:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:51] <Guest74987> holstein, can i install the drivers while using the live CD?
[16:51] <daftykins> ActionPa1snip: i find it weird don-geforce's setup is labelling his DVI attached display as a CRT still :S
[16:51] <holstein> Guest74987: linux is not like windows.. most drivers are included in the kernel.. the kernel is "modular".. most things "just work" out of the box.. if not, some things can be installed LIVE, and some will be more challenging
[16:52] <holstein> Guest74987: you should be able to get a good sense of how challenging it might be to migrate your particular hardware to linux without commercial support such as the support you have for windws
[16:52] <holstein> windows*
[16:52] <don-geforce> so u want me to revert back to nouveau drivers?
[16:53] <rtfmdude> i'm suffering lacking support in my situation, but now it got worse, i don't get it how can i format the question on askubuntu so it wouldn't be a nightmare with config contents listings lol
[16:53] <holstein> don-geforce: i would try the open ones, the proprietary ones in the repo, and the ones from the site. i would try and refer to potentially helpful steam documentation... i would try teh 12.04 LTS version
[16:54] <ikonia> rtfmdude: what do you mean a lack of support ?
[16:54] <holstein> rtfmdude: what are the details of your situation?
[16:54] <holstein> rtfmdude: if yu are asking "how tdo i ask my quesiton".. here or on askubuntu, use as much detail as possible
[16:54] <rtfmdude> i'm having problem switching passphrase luks authorization to key file based for rootfs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18
[16:55] <ikonia> rtfmdude: are you n0pxn0p on launchpad ?
[16:55] <rtfmdude> ikonia, sometimes
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: could you just answer clearly please.
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: rather than stupid responses to clear questions
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: are you n0pxn0p ?
[16:56] <rtfmdude> ikonia, yep
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: right, so this is your actual question / details, not someone elses
[16:56] <rtfmdude> ikonia, exactly
[16:57] <rtfmdude> ikonia, i thought that filing a new bug report is a bad idea due to the fact some things are still unclear to me =)
[16:57] <hrolf> Anyone?
[16:57] <hrolf> How to block netcut ARP spoofing on linux?
[16:57] <ikonia> hrolf: saying anyone is pointless
[16:58] <ikonia> rtfmdude: as I'm reading that, it's just skipping adding he key to the initramfs ?
[16:58] <holstein> hrolf: i would try a security channel.. what are you doing to allow that to happen?
[16:58] <ikonia> rtfmdude: is that your understanding of what's happening
[16:58] <hrolf> holstein: I'm on LAN someone is using arcai netcut and cutting off Internet browsing access
[16:58] <rtfmdude> ikonia, it pops-up the warning and it happens over cryptroot hook and i can't see what is the reason it doesn't work the same as it works for sdb device
[16:58] <holstein> hrolf: someone? is this your home network?
[16:59] <ikonia> rtfmdude: ah, I see what you mean, it's adding it for sdb, but ignoring the key for sda when it tries to add it
[17:00] <hrolf> holstein: Well the place where I'm we get Internet through LAN
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: is the place education/work/home/
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: what network is this ?
[17:00] <hrolf> ikonia: home
[17:00] <rtfmdude> ikonia, exactly! i also tried to gather all moments which are unclear to me http://paste.ubuntu.com/5967000/
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: so you control it then
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: as in the network
[17:00] <hrolf> ikonia: Nope I cannot
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: why not ?
[17:01] <hrolf> That's the problem
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: I'm just a user
[17:01] <holstein> hrolf: i would alert the adminsitrator
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: if it's your home network, why can you not control it
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: Network is not mine, I just got a connection to use Internet
[17:01] <ikonia> rtfmdude: interesting, I'll need to have a prod around as I'm very rustry with luks (I don't use it personally as I find it a disaster)
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: then it's not a home network
[17:01] <hrolf> holstein: the admin is not capable enough to debug
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: what type of network is it ?
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: It is LAN
[17:02] <rtfmdude> ikonia, thank you for attention
[17:02] <ikonia> hrolf: yes, but who controls it, is it a school an office etc
[17:02] <ikonia> rtfmdude: looks a bit interesting, lets see what can be found,
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: the one who gives Internet in my place
[17:02] <holstein> hrolf: you will always have issues on an unsafe network like that.. if you are asking "how ca i be safe on an unsafe network?".. i would go to a safe network.. otherwise, try firewalls and other security measures
[17:02] <ikonia> hrolf: what is "your place" a school, an office,
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: It is like he got one connection, and than installed a router and gives everyone otther
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: for using on a low price
[17:03] <hrolf> ikonia: Home
[17:03] <ikonia> hrolf: how many people are using this ?
[17:03] <hrolf> ikonia: Around 15 to 20 (rough figure(
[17:03] <hrolf> )
[17:03] <ikonia> seems an odd "home" network with 15 - 20 people using his
[17:04] <ikonia> I'd talk to the administrator to block the mac address of the device
[17:04] <hrolf> ikonia: The admin is not capable enough
[17:04] <ikonia> hrolf: then he needs to get capable
[17:05] <holstein> hrolf: then, i would seek another network.. you will always have issues there
[17:05] <hrolf> ikonia: Not possible
[17:05] <hrolf> that's the issue
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: is this one place, eg: a house ?
[17:05] <hrolf> ikonia: Yes, my home.
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: so walk to the router, unplug each cable until you find the device spoofing
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: then follow that cable to the person
[17:06] <ikonia> hrolf: then kick them off the network / tell them not to do it
[17:06] <hrolf> ikonia: Is there any tool which let's say tracks the packets and determines the spoofing device?
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: tcpdump
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: but you'll find what I've just suggested easier
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: walk to the switch, unplug cables one at a time
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: monitor it on your ubuntu desktop
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: then when you see the spoofing stop, follow the cable to the person doing it
[17:08] <don-geforce> ok so i reverted back to X.org server - Nouveau drivers and now my max display resolution is 1024x768. Anyway to force it 1366x768?
[17:08] <hrolf> ikonia: How do I tell if spoofing has been stopped?
[17:08] <ikonia> hrolf: how can you see someone is spoofing ?
[17:08] <daftykins> don-geforce: you could play with xrandr
[17:08] <holstein> don-geforce: maybe not.. though, i have had good luck with custom xorg.conf files.. sometimes i try arandr, a GUI tool.. or i'll try a knoppix live CD and grab the xorg.conf from there
[17:09] <don-geforce> holstein, seems a bit complicated for me. Im just trying out ubuntu for the first time
[17:09] <hrolf> ikonia: My main machine internet stops, I start a WINDOWS VM, there I have netcut installed and I cut all the people in network and then my internet starts working in the VM
[17:10] <Archguy> who knows how to use libfvde here? http://ix.io/7a7
[17:10] <ikonia> hrolf: that doesn't sound like someone is spoofing, that sounds like you are kicking everyone off the network
[17:10] <holstein> don-geforce: sure.. keep in mind it would ideally be, just like in windows, the hardware manufacturer's responsibilty to support the OS you are choosing.. some devices can be quite tricky, or not work well at all
[17:10] <ikonia> hrolf: it could be something as simple as an IP address conflict, or a lack of IP addresses in the DHCP pool
[17:10] <hrolf> ikonia: what netcut does it cuts off internet by ARP spoofing
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: so ?
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: you're arp spoofing, that doesn't mean anyone else is
[17:11] <hrolf> ikonia: but when I cut off everyone else, then my internet starts working
[17:11] <holstein> don-geforce: you can always just use something like xubuntu or lubuntu that doesnt require 3d, and even use the vesa driver.. or use linux in VM in windows.. or keep trying live CD's til something "works" and make a note of the kernel version (or ask the manufacturer for support, which wont go well)
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: yes, I understand that,
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: but that doesn't mean someone is spoofing
[17:11] <don-geforce> so basically its my monitor's fault
[17:12] <hrolf> ikonia: What does that mean then?
[17:12] <holstein> don-geforce: its no one or nothings "fault".. im proposing, based on past experience, and what you are stating, that its a graphics card driver support issue
[17:12] <ikonia> hrolf: you need to work with the network administrator,
[17:12] <rtfmdude> lol i still don't get it how should i format the question on askubuntu the way it wouldn't look like nightmare it shouldn't be that complicated, guys loool
[17:13] <Phoenixz> Hello, I'm a webdev, and on my development computer, this morning, I got a mysql update. I applied it, and it failed, and now I am without mysql database server, and so I cannot work :( Checked mysql error log, got this beauty: ERROR: 1064  You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at
[17:13] <Phoenixz> line 1
[17:13] <Phoenixz> That lead me to this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/+bug/776226  seems a very old bug that is back (see the last comment)
[17:14] <Phoenixz> Anybody who might know how I can fix this quickly? I'm at a complete stop and I don't really want to have to reinstall my computer from scratch
[17:14] <holstein> Phoenixz: are you using a PPA? or a custom version?
[17:14] <rtfmdude> Phoenixz, why not mariadb?
[17:14] <ikonia> rtfmdude: it's not been transitioned yet in ubuntu
[17:14] <BlackHarvest> Is there a way to configure ubuntu to use the dual finger scrolling like you would on windows or macos?
[17:14] <rtfmdude> oh
[17:14] <daftykins> don-geforce: arandr looks like a good idea, give it a try
[17:14] <holstein> BlackHarvest: i click "use 2 finger scrolling" on hardware that supports that easily
[17:15] <don-geforce> will try arandr now
[17:15] <Phoenixz> rtfmdude: Mariadb is another product, I need mysql
[17:15] <ikonia> Phoenixz: mariadb is mysql
[17:15] <rtfmdude> got it
[17:15] <holstein> Phoenixz: and, you are not using any outside sources?
[17:15] <Phoenixz> holstein: Not using PPA afaik, but I'll confirm
[17:16] <holstein> if you think it was the update that broke it, you can roll it back and test
[17:16] <ikonia> that won't fix it
[17:16] <Phoenixz> holstein: Only configured external software sources are for cassandra related product
[17:16] <ikonia> if a table is in a flux state as it's not been altered correctly
[17:17]  * holstein defers to ikonia on sql matter
[17:17] <Phoenixz> holstein: well, I had mysql before the update, no longer after the update failed so yeah :) How would I roll it back? I already tried purging and reinstalling, to no avail
[17:17] <rtfmdude> srsly what the kind of hell is that, i don't really get support here, i can't just ask the question on askubuntu without formatiing nightmare, i can't get answers on launchpad, and i can't trust to hacked ubuntuforums in order to register there :D
[17:17] <ikonia> Phoenixz: that won't help if your table has not been altered correctly as the datasource isn't deleted
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: can you stop complaining about askubuntu
[17:18] <holstein> !volunteers | rtfmdude
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: I'm trying to help you but I'm getting really annoyed with your constant complaining
[17:18] <rtfmdude> ikonia, i can't but it wouldn't change the facts :D
[17:18] <rtfmdude> cn*
[17:18] <rtfmdude> can*
[17:18] <Phoenixz> ikonia: okay, so what would be best step from here?
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: good luck sorting your problem then, I've just lost interest
[17:18] <rtfmdude> lol just now or 3 days ago?
[17:18] <rtfmdude> LOL
[17:19] <rtfmdude> doubt u had it
[17:19] <ikonia> Phoenixz: a good question, a good test would be to start mysql with the --skip-grant-tables option, see if it's the permissions table thats damaged (long shot)
[17:19] <Phoenixz> rtfmdude: way to treat volunteers that try to help you..
[17:19] <gordonjcp> rtfmdude: did you actually have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:19] <ikonia> Phoenixz: basically you need to work through what's corrupted/inconsisant and either fix it or recover it
[17:19] <michele> hi there. I'm trying to install ncdu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ncdu&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all - however, apt-get does not find it. http://pastie.org/8222288 . how come? thanks
[17:19] <rtfmdude> no, im jsut another troll sorry dudes
[17:20] <ikonia> rtfmdude: final warning - stop messing around in here
[17:20] <Phoenixz> ikonia: I read somewhere that I'd need to purge mysql-common package, but half my system depends on that, I would end up with nothing left :)
[17:20] <Phoenixz> ikonia: trying your suggestion, one sec
[17:20] <BlackHarvest> Hmm, when I go into  my system settings and change the scroll speed for my touch pad, it doesn't save the changes.  Any idea why this might be?
[17:20] <ikonia> Phoenixz: well, I think I have a "clean" solution for you, but it's going to require some effort and care,
[17:20] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I suggest we go through it - plan it and execute it
[17:20] <BlackHarvest> cursor speed*
[17:21] <ikonia> Phoenixz: (or do you want to try to fix the damage rather than recover)
[17:21] <Phoenixz> ikonia: yay, I'm in! :)
[17:21] <Phoenixz> well, I want my mysql DB to run smoothly again
[17:22] <Phoenixz> I guess I could run mysqlcheck now?
[17:22] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what did you do to get in ?
[17:22] <Phoenixz> I did sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, so the grants table got screwed
[17:22] <Phoenixz> then on another console mysql -p and I got in the mysql server
[17:22] <Phoenixz> yezzz :)
[17:22] <ikonia> that's a bit of luck
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, so what you need to do is re-create the grants
[17:22] <Phoenixz> well, that happy face is not really happy yet, but lets just say this is better than I've had in the last 2 hours..
[17:22] <ikonia> that should be enough to then start it without the --skip-grants-table
[17:23] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what you should do is quickly tabke mysql dumps of your personal databases
[17:23] <ikonia> Phoenixz: eg: mysqldump on your databses to get backups we can use to import later if we need them
[17:23] <Phoenixz> okay... that would take a while, I have several gigs worth :) but good idea
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ikonia: How would I recreate the grants?
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: so depends if the tables actually screwed up, or just the data,
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: the "grant" command is the obvious one
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ikonia: I'd have to do that for all users
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ok
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I'll have to research the table structure I think it's going to be a combination in the of "user,db and host" tables in the mysql database
[17:25] <Phoenixz> ikonia: crazy idea maybe but.. what if..
[17:25] <Phoenixz> a) move /var/lib/mysql out of the way
[17:26] <Phoenixz> b) reinstall mysql all the way, c)dump mysql DB to SQL file, d) move my old DB's back, d) start mysql with skip grants, then e) mysql  < myexportedmysql.sql file?
[17:26] <don-geforce> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[17:26] <don-geforce> any idea how to fix this?
[17:26] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I was going to suggest the back to front version of that
[17:27] <ikonia> Phoenixz: backup your db's, re-install mysql, then import your dump files into a sane mysql instance
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin>  I have a x86_64 kubuntu host and I want to install an x86_64 ubuntu server guest, but the installer complains that the CPU is not x86_64 and that it is i686. How can I resolve this?
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: what virtualization are you using ?
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> virtualbox
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: should work fine, you've set the guest to be x86_64 ?
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: ( I mean when you configured the virtual tin you set it to x86_64)
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> how do I set it to be x86_64?
[17:29] <ikonia> !virtualbox | ovidiu-florin
[17:29] <keyboord> I have ubuntu installed, but want to (temporarily) install win8 and then install ubuntu again after win8 is loaded, but I can't get my system to boot off the cdrom/dvd disc. Please advise.
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> I know what it is
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't understand your question
[17:30] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: if you read the link, it details how to use it
[17:30] <Phoenixz> ikonia: okay, that will take a little :) Thanks for the help!
[17:30] <ikonia> Phoenixz: not a problem
[17:34] <michele> hi there. I'm trying to install ncdu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ncdu&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all - however, apt-get does not find it. http://pastie.org/pastes/8222288/text . how come? thanks
[17:35] <daftykins> michele: you could try changing your apt mirror, in system settings -> software and sources
[17:35] <Pici> michele: What does the output of  arch  say?
[17:35] <daftykins> michele: i have seen an issue where a user's chosen mirror was missing important packages
[17:35] <Pici> daftykins: thats the main archive.
[17:36] <daftykins> Pici: how do you mean? as in the link is pointing to the main one?
[17:36] <Pici> daftykins: that pastebin says "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[17:37] <daftykins> Pici: my bad, didn't even see that in the original post.
[17:38] <michele> Pici: i386
[17:38] <michele> Pici: i686
[17:38] <simone> +1
[17:38] <michele> daftykins: how do i change mirror while not using X ?
[17:39] <michele> it's a server
[17:39] <daftykins> michele: nevermind i think my approach was wrong, sorry.
[17:39] <Pici> michele: and what about: uname -a
[17:39] <myugetsu> hahaha
[17:40] <michele> Linux yankee 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:40] <flipper88_fl> isn't i686 the newer name for the old i386 chips?
[17:41] <Pici> michele: does apt-cache showsrc ncdu   report anything>?
[17:41] <michele> Pici: yes it shows the package source
[17:42] <Pici> michele: and apt-cache show ncdu   still shows nothing?
[17:42] <myugetsu> how does a  person configure apache to sendmail from the localhost
[17:43] <michele> N: Unable to locate package ncdu
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info ncdu
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> michele: do you have universe repo enabled?
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> myugetsu: I'd ask in the apache channel too
[17:44] <michele> yes ActionPa1snip http://pastie.org/pastes/8222288/text
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> michele: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ncdu
[17:45] <michele> Reading state information... Done
[17:45] <michele> E: Unable to locate package ncdu
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: i686 has a lot more funcionality than i386
[17:46] <ActionPa1snip> michele: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[17:46] <flipper88_fl> Thanks ActionPa1snip
[17:48] <flipper88_fl> So ActionPa1snip If i understand you're proir comment i686 is basicvly and enhanced veriant of its defunct cusin I386?
[17:48] <lynxy> hi
[17:49] <simone> ciao
[17:49] <lynxy> can I maximize a process (gui) if it is minimized and have no SysTray (Ubuntu 13.04)?
[17:50] <flipper88_fl> I userally just run amd64 bit releases as most newer desk/lpatops have 64bit cup and over 8gb of ram
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, You have the left panel.
[17:51] <lynxy> the process is not there :(
[17:51] <Phoenixz> ikonia: Ok, I dumped all tables, removed /var/lib/mysql completely, sudo apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.5, then sudo apt-get install mysql-server, and it fails again.. In the error log I see this error: ERROR: 1050  Table 'plugin' already exists
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, you remove it?
[17:51] <lynxy> it was ment to work with SysTray...
[17:51] <lynxy> no
[17:51] <Phoenixz> The /var/lib/mysql is gone, what more could there exist?
[17:51] <flipper88_fl> does sshfs support tcp keep alives?
[17:52] <lynxy> I'm talking about Bitdefender Scanner for Unices
[17:52] <lynxy> if I minimize it I can't open it
[17:52] <lynxy> is there a terminal command?
[17:52] <michele> ActionPa1snip: now i manage to install it
[17:52] <michele> ActionPa1snip: so what was wrong?
[17:53] <michele> thank you very much
[17:53] <ServerSage> Is it possible to convert an existing RAID 0 mirror to an LVM mirror?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, Is this the unity desktop and is it missing all the features?
[17:53] <Phoenixz> ikonia: when I try apt-get again, I get the same error as before, so I guess this was the original error where it borked up when I updated.. Any idea where this "plugin" table is created that already exists?
[17:54] <ServerSage> Oops, I meant RAID 1.  :)
[17:54] <Berto> Hi - I have a file named -C= and cannot delete it.  What is this??
[17:54] <Berto> srwxr-xr-x 1 root      root        0 Jul 23 18:05 -C=
[17:54] <rtfmdude> flipper88_fl, i always thought it already has it performing some kind of operations in background, most probably i'm wrong
[17:55] <ServerSage> Berto: Try using \ to escape the - in the name.
[17:55] <lynxy> This is the Unity desktop and can't activate Systray Whitelist :(
[17:55] <ServerSage> Berto: rm \-C=
[17:55] <irssi-mike> !ubuntu one
[17:55] <Phoenixz> ikonia: looks like the ubuntu package is broken.. it creates the /var/lib/mysql, creates mysql DB in there and then tries to create the "plugin" table twice in that DB... this is... *sigh*
[17:55] <Berto> ServerSage, rm: invalid option -- 'C'
[17:55] <lynxy> The other features are working fine, as far as I can see
[17:55] <rtfmdude> flipper88_fl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS#Keep_Alive !
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[17:56] <Berto> ServerSage, sudo rm -- -C   worked :)
[17:56] <tubbo> hi all, i'm trying to connect as my www-data user remotely via ssh and passwordless key authentication
[17:56] <tubbo> i've edited my authorized_keys file in /var/www/.ssh/authorized_keys to include my key but i still get prompted for a password
[17:56] <tubbo> even when switching the shell to /bin/bash
[17:56] <BlackHarvest> Hey all, I'm having an issue where Ubuntu is not recognizing my touchpad in mouse settings... The touchpad is AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint, does anyone know where I can find a driver for this?
[17:57] <Archguy> Can anyone help me with "Obtaining EncryptedRoot.plist.wipekey" from https://code.google.com/p/libfvde/wiki/Mounting ?
[17:57] <rtfmdude> having www-data login shell is insecure
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, What release?
[17:58] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[17:58] <tubbo> rtfmdude: i know, i like to live dangerously :P
[17:58] <tubbo> rtfmdude: this is a dev box that doesn't have actual internet access
[17:59] <rtfmdude> tubbo, lol, but no ideas realted to why it still asks for pwd
[17:59] <tubbo> rtfmdude: bah
[17:59] <tubbo> this problem is clearly impossible
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, This a upgrade to 13.04?
[18:00] <tubbo> unix sucks i want windows back ;)
[18:00] <tubbo> where are my iconz!!1
[18:00] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: no, this is a complete reinstall
[18:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just checked software-center for skype but it isn't in there (Partner packets activated, ubuntu 12.04), what can I do?
[18:00] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: you were helping me out last night with my wireless (roots47).  Was having an issue signing in as roots47_ due to already being signed in.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, Were you plugged into the net and ticked the update bix?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> box
[18:01] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: ticked the update bix?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> box in the install
[18:01] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: no sir, couldn't get internet during install unfortunately
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> there is a update box in the install gui's
[18:01] <Archguy> Can someone please help me make sense of this: http://cl.ly/image/0s240h0t281M
[18:02] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: can I run those same updates now?
[18:02] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: (I already ran the ubuntu software updates)
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, I see hardly nothing on this on the net except a fresh install fixes it, however since you need a driver I suspect you need net access, and should tick the update box on the install, just a guess though.
[18:03] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, just go to the Skype website and download the linux version
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, Have you looked in additional drivers?
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> ok, thanks
[18:04] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: it only shows two devices, my graphics card, and that pesky broadcom chip
[18:04] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, I see, well thats about all I can think of.
[18:04] <Lunar_Lander> thank you
[18:05] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: damn, thanks anyways
[18:06] <bkfitz> Does anyone know how to restart a specific inetd service
[18:06] <bkfitz> i'm running proftpd under it
[18:06] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: you don't
[18:06] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i guess now
[18:06] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: when you connect to inetd, it starts the service
[18:06] <bkfitz> not
[18:07] <gordonjcp> so effectively stopping all connections and reconnecting would bounce your service
[18:07] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i'm used to init.d - don't know much about inetd
[18:07] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, so If I change a proftpd config, will it automatically 'take' the changes since the service is fired up upon connection?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: should do
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: if at all possible, use sftp instead of ftp
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, huh... doesn't seem to be, but i'll try
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: maybe pkill proftpd
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, :) yeah... the change i made was to only allow sftp
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: ah, openssh just does that on its own...
[18:08] <irssi-mike> tubbo: check your pm
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, yeah but i need ssh to run on 22 and sftp on 21
[18:09] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, separately
[18:09] <gordonjcp> but 21 is the ftp port, sftp works over port 22
[18:09] <bkfitz> gordonjcp,  you familiar with running sftp on proftpd
[18:10] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: no, I wouldn't touch an ftpd with a stolen ten foot pole
[18:10] <anshulk> hey
[18:10] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i'm not happy about it either (i'm guessing your concerns are security based?)
[18:10] <jaapio> Hi, I'm trying to setup back-in-time to backup my home directory and some other folders. But what about file permissions? does the backup user need access to all files it has to copy?
[18:10] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, already restricted 21 access to the only ip that i'm allowing using iptables
[18:11] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: why? Just use port 22 like a normal person...
[18:11] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, so if you were me, how would you allow your developers to upload code changes
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> Guest74987, that worked, only that the skype symbol isn't in the sidebar
[18:11] <jaapio> running back in time as root doesn't sound like an idea
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> it is that generic application symbol
[18:11] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> like a box with books in it
[18:11] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, :) i wish i could... our internal lan disallows 22 out... only 21
[18:11] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, you could configure system users for them and sftp access
[18:12] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, exactly what i'm trying
[18:12] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, exactly what i'm trying (sorry gord)
[18:12] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: can you explain what your situation is?
[18:13] <danielboston26> what is the support like for HFS+?
[18:13] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: it's okay
[18:13] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, Hosted lamp stack in the cloud for our webserver -> developers inside a huge lan I don't control  with 21 out open and 22 out closed (so I use my mifi to admin it) -> I want them to be able to upload code changes to my apache instance
[18:13] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, i'm not sure how to fix it, i don't use the unity interface, maybe you can right click on the icon and go to properties and change the icon to the correct one
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> ok, thanks :)
[18:14] <danielboston26> gordonjcp is it still currputing data?
[18:14] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: not that I've noticed
[18:14] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, I guess I could configure openssh to run on 21 :)
[18:14] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: well, you need to explain to the admins for the LAN that you need them to fix it
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp been doing some research and appreantly the first implementation was currupting data on drives larger then 2tb
[18:15] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, look for tutorials/howtos like http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/ no u most probably won't be able to switch sftp thing from openssh daemon on 21st port
[18:15] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: I'd get ssh going one way or another, then use something like Fabric to automate uploads
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp it said that both debian and ubuntu disabled write support for HFS+
[18:15] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: okay
[18:15] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, whats wrong with sftp
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp do you know if thats still the case?
[18:16] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: not a scooby
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: well sftp works over ssh
[18:16] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, I thought you could run openssh on whatever port you want
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: yes, you can, although your admins might get a bit sniffy
[18:16] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, yeah but you won't get sftp feature
[18:16] <danielboston26> gordonjcp what does that mean?
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: hence why I'm saying you need to talk to them to unbreak the network
[18:16] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, right... so what's wrong with two ssh daemons... one for traditional ssh on 22 for traditional ssh and one on 21 for sftp
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: it may be possible to configure it to listen on both ports
[18:17] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, openssh on 21 (traffic will look like sftp anyway)
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: or just make it listen on some other port and use that - and make sure you specify the port
[18:17] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, only ports open to the outside are 80 and 21
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: anyway you want to automate uploading and stuff as much as possible
[18:18] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: your network is broken, and you need to get the admins to fix it
[18:18] <bkfitz> gordonjcp :)
[18:18] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: or stop paying them for it
[18:19] <bkfitz> gordonjcp: policy to close 22 above me
[18:20] <rtfmdude> maybe ftp with ssl could be an option?
[18:20] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, but irrelevant
[18:20] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, isn't that what sftp is?
[18:20] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, not exactly
[18:20] <rtfmdude> ftps/sftp u c?
[18:21] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, doesn't it stand for ssh file transfer proto
[18:21] <rtfmdude> the second thing - yes
[18:22] <BlackHarvest> So I found this post http://linuxg.net/ubuntu-13-04-touchpad-option-does-not-exist-error-fix/ about getting my touchpad drivers installed, but I don't have a "psmouse" directory.  Is anyone familiar with configuring touchpads on ubuntu 13.04?
[18:23] <Therzo> Hi, anyone here who can help with mountall / ZFS issues?
[18:27] <priya-> hey
[18:28] <Therzo> hi
[18:29] <priya-> how do i customize ubuntu livecd
[18:30] <Therzo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:30] <Therzo> hope that helps
[18:30] <danielboston26> why would you want to?
[18:31] <priya-> sure, ty Therzo
[18:32] <rtfmdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[18:32] <holstein> rtfmdude: in a larger sense, what is it you are trying to do?
[18:33] <holstein> rtfmdude: at this point, you might want to entertain more attractive work arounds
[18:33] <rtfmdude> holstein, fully encrypted luks instance with key file on /boot removable media
[18:33] <rtfmdude> holstein, currently i see it as a bug, i might be wrong, that's why i'm asking
[18:33] <MoPac> Hello - I'm looking for help with two issues relating to keyrings. (1) My system does not seem to respect my Enigmail preference to clear my PGP passphrase after X minutes. Once I enter it, it stays unlocked indefinitely, which is not what I want. (2) Almost every session, i unlock a certain keyring manually, which is how I want it. How do I set the auto-unlock at login box to unticked by default?
[18:34] <holstein> rtfmdude: im not debating if its a bug or not.. just trying to address your specific need with a potential alternative.. what is it that you are trying to do?
[18:34] <rtfmdude> holstein, fully encrypted luks instance with key file on /boot removable media <- that's what
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  is this useful? old article... http://www.maketecheasier.com/auto-unlock-keyring-manager-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2009/03/14
[18:35] <holstein> rtfmdude: for an installation on  the stick?
[18:35] <rtfmdude> holstein, no, for decrypting it with key file
[18:36] <holstein> rtfmdude: it? the installation?
[18:36] <rtfmdude> holstein, the installed one instance of 13.04
[18:36] <holstein> rtfmdude: installed "one" instance?
[18:37] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: Unfortunately not: the newer dialogue has this extra tick box on it, and if you leave it ticked when you enter the password, it adds that keyring password to your default login keyring, chained together. So I have to carefully untick it every time or else have the hassle of going back in the settings and deleting it from the default keyring
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  this is is more recent http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-unlock-login-keyring-ubuntu-13-04/
[18:37] <rtfmdude> holstein, sorry, maybe my english is too frustrating, just read the whole question that's why i wrote it
[18:37] <Richter> hi, today i have a little problem... my ubuntu server automatic disconect the nfs. I reboot and its work again, some one have this problem too? how i can find this in my (giant) log?
[18:37] <holstein> rtfmdude: i did, and im asking for clarification.. what is a "one" instance?
[18:38] <rtfmdude> holstein, "installed instance" installed ONE u c?
[18:38] <rtfmdude> repeating purposes one
[18:38] <holstein> rtfmdude: i realize you are having a challenging time with an issue, but this is a quite advanced scnario that normal destkop useage doesnt encounter much
[18:38] <rtfmdude> it's not advanced
[18:38] <rtfmdude> define "normal desktop user"
[18:38] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: My problem is really the opposite of what's in those articles.  I have a separate keyring that I DON'T want to unlock on login.  Its password is much stronger than my default login password, and I need it to be different. But Ubuntu keeps trying to get me to add it to my default keyring, which defeats the whole purpose
[18:39] <holstein> rtfmdude: i didnt offer that as a statement for debate.. it *is* advance.. not typical
[18:39] <BlackHarvest> Looks like my mouse issues could be due to multi-touch... any ideas on how to disable that feature?
[18:39] <holstein> rtfmdude: that is why you *are* having a challenging time with it.. to recap.. you have an installation of 13.04? on usb? and you are trying to encrypt it?
[18:39] <rtfmdude> what is typical setup for linux distribution? the desktop with unity? i don't think so, linux is supposed to be more than that
[18:40] <MoPac> So all I really want there is to be able to type in the password and press "enter" without accidentally wrecking my security every time because the wrong option is always checked by default
[18:40] <rtfmdude> holstein, on 2 hard drives with /boot media on usb stick
[18:40] <rtfmdude> what is it unclear?
[18:40] <holstein> rtfmdude: sure.. and "linux' can be what you like.. but you are not using a typical "out of the box" scenario" with ubuntu or any of the derivitives.. im not debating is a bug.. just ring to help get you an answer
[18:41] <rtfmdude> define typical, show me where i can read on wiki for example about typical setup
[18:41] <holstein> rtfmdude: that statement its self is unclear for me.. you have one installation over 2 usb sticks?
[18:41] <rtfmdude> holstein, i have installation on two hard drives HARD DAMN DRIVES
[18:41] <rtfmdude> hdds
[18:41] <holstein> rtfmdude: typical is default.. all files in one partition on one hard drive.. nothing special
[18:41] <potatoman> hi everyone, if someone could help me with a few general installation questions i'd really appreciate it
[18:41] <rtfmdude> it's written in there
[18:41] <rtfmdude> read it carefully or just don't
[18:42] <holstein> rtfmdude: just default. and im not debating thats hat you should do.. just that you are dealing with something outside the typical scope of this channel
[18:42] <danny4way> I got some kind of weird notification from my computer. It says The update information is outdated.
[18:42] <danny4way> It's from the notification bar.
[18:42] <holstein> rtfmdude: faie enough.. i'll wait for more cler details, or you can wait for another volunteer.. good luck!
[18:42] <rtfmdude> holstein, where can i read about typical scope of this channel?
[18:42] <rtfmdude> maybe there are some rights
[18:43] <holstein> rtfmdude: this is not an "official" statement, friend.. you are welcome to ask the question.. i just realize you are getting frustrated by not finding help. and im trying to explaing why this volunteer has not been able to help
[18:43] <danny4way> Is there any way to fix it?
[18:43] <rtfmdude> holstein, did i say that i need an explanation?
[18:43] <rtfmdude> about why i can't find the support lol
[18:43] <budak> lllllllllllllll
[18:44] <rtfmdude> i clearly understand why there is none
[18:44] <holstein> danny4way: nothing is "broken".. you can update the system.. you can open a terminal, and run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' or use the GUI that is popping up
[18:44] <danny4way> Okay. Thanks. I will try.
[18:44] <holstein> rtfmdude: i offered that, as a volunteer.. to try and assist you.. you are free to igrnore the explanation
[18:45] <holstein> rtfmdude: just know that i still dont know the layout of your system..
[18:45] <danny4way> I got an error
[18:45] <rtfmdude> holstein, i came with a problem and you started explaining me why i'm not getting responses, thanks, but i think i'm not the only one who consider such "volunteers" ignorant in context of whole community
[18:46] <holstein> !volunteers | rtfmdude
[18:46] <rtfmdude> holstein, my layout is written on the link i provided
[18:46] <holstein> rtfmdude: i would try and refrain from cursing and refering to volunteers as "ignorant"
[18:46] <rtfmdude> you are
[18:46] <rtfmdude> because the layout is written in there http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization
[18:46] <rtfmdude> and it was too hard for you to read it carefully
[18:47] <holstein> rtfmdude: so, you would like a volunteer to read that link?
[18:47] <rtfmdude> no, i provided it for myself only
[18:47] <rtfmdude> for private usage
[18:47] <aleksey> !ru
[18:47] <holstein> rtfmdude: i assumed you provided it for askubuntu.. but i will look at it. thanks for your continued patience
[18:48] <rtfmdude> holstein, now scroll back and look where i did it for the first time
[18:48] <IdleOne> rtfmdude: drop the attitude please.
[18:49] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, are you a lawyer?
[18:49] <holstein> rtfmdude: i saw it back then, friend.. i just didnt know that was the only way to get the information.. thanks again.. and please try and be respectful
[18:49] <rtfmdude> i'm trying hard for a week almost
[18:50] <aleksey> Start the game and works fine   DmC_Devil_May_Cry
[18:50] <rtfmdude> sorry, i need support only once per 5 years
[18:50] <aleksey> гигтег 13.4
[18:50] <aleksey> ubuntu**
[18:50] <IdleOne> you posted that to askubuntu and hour ago.
[18:50] <IdleOne> s/and/an/
[18:50] <rtfmdude> i don't get responses anywhere
[18:51] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 and the link to question from askubuntu question and 3 days here
[18:51] <holstein> rtfmdude: support is voluntary both places, and as i said, this is not a typical "desktop" issue
[18:51] <aleksey> url help you
[18:51] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, sorry, please, but i was helping to dudes all my life dealing with simple stuff myself and here is what i get back asking for help once in a million years :D
[18:51] <IdleOne> rtfmdude: I understand the frustration you are feeling but that does not mean it is ok to demand response from the nice people in here. So please just try to calm down and be patient
[18:51] <rtfmdude> just excuse me, i'm really nervous and i'm in desperate
[18:52] <rtfmdude> and u start talking about how is it nad to come here with non-typical setups
[18:52] <rtfmdude> after what you ignore the questions itself and situation description i was writing
[18:52] <rtfmdude> and u're saying i should drop the attitude
[18:53] <rtfmdude> man, grow up please
[18:53] <IdleOne> I am.
[18:53] <aleksey> !op
[18:53] <aleksey> ))
[18:53] <IdleOne> aleksey: How can I help you?
[18:54] <aleksey> I have all the super
[18:54] <aleksey> all errors corrected himself
[18:54] <aleksey> i love ubuntu
[18:55] <Guest85387> what is better xubuntu or lubuntu in your choise???
[18:56] <OerHeks> Guest85387 depends on your system, 256 mb/lubuntu 512 mb/xubuntu
[18:57] <Guest85387> other than that is same sys right?
[18:57] <aleksey> I ask that the council useful set of software
[18:57] <OerHeks> Guest85387 running lubuntu on a i7/4gb would be super-duper-lightweight.
[18:58] <gordonjcp> yeah
[18:58] <gordonjcp> Lubuntu on an i7 would be incredible
[18:58] <Guest85387> does it matter if a machine is that poverfull?
[18:58] <gordonjcp> you'd be able to crash far faster than ever before
[18:59] <OerHeks> Guest85387 xubuntu and Lubuntu have its own set of programs, maybe worth installing them both side-by-side
[19:01] <makara> Hi. Sometimes in Nautilus (13.04) I can't see files in a folder "Film" on an external ext4 HDD. Renaming the folder has no effect, but when I rename is from command line, then the files are again visible in Nautilus. How come??
[19:01] <patricknellum> is there anybody that can help me with ubuntu terminal please
[19:01] <makara> patricknellum, ask your q
[19:01] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, is there a --graceful-- way to shutdown via terminal?
[19:01] <DreamPCs> Something that will wait for apps to exit before killing them?
[19:02] <makara> DreamPCs, sudo reboot now
[19:02] <IdleOne> that isn't graceful, DreamPCs have a read of ' man shutdwn ' there should be some switch you can use.
[19:02] <Therzo> Hi, can anyone help with mountall not mounting ZFS volumes? I described my problem here:  https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!topic/zfs-discuss/gi1AXgZgGHo
[19:02] <IdleOne> shutdown*
[19:03] <thubtumbing> Sudo shutdown now
[19:03] <patricknellum> ok. im using my android right now. my brother loaded an iso image of ubuntu  but its only a terminal. i want to learn it but im having difficulties. im trying to turn on my wireless and log onto my wifi but like i said my knowledge of terminal is extremely limited as of now. as for my android right now. it will not allow me to type numbers. so im limited to words and periods
[19:04] <DreamPCs> Ok thanks guys
[19:04] <makara> IdleOne, "When called with --force or when in runlevel 0 or 6, this tool  invokes the  reboot(2)  system call itself (with REBOOTCOMMAND argument passed) and directly reboots the system.  Otherwise  this  simply  invokes  the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments without passing REBOOT‐COMMAND argument."
[19:04] <OerHeks> makara, on ext4 you might not have permission to read,"sudo chown -R makara:makara /dev/(device name)
[19:04] <yeats> DreamPCs: 'sudo shutdown -h now' halts, 'sudo shutdown -r now' reboots
[19:05] <IdleOne> makara: seems I need to read man shutdown again :)
[19:05]  * yeats works with servers and uses it all the time
[19:05] <makara> IdleOne, that was from reboot
[19:06] <spikespiegel> hey guys, hoping someone is informed in this area
[19:07] <MoPac> spikespiegel: !anyone
[19:07] <MoPac> aw, I forgot the command
[19:07] <makara> OerHeks, where would I find it in /dev/ ? From /media/makara/Typhon is makara:makara.
[19:07] <patricknellum> as of right now im trying to use the iwconfig to log onto my wifi network. i have managed to turn the power on and when i scan through terminal i find my router. however it is encrypted. i just need to know how to log onto the network in order to download the desktop
[19:07] <MoPac> spikespiegel: What is your question?
[19:07] <spikespiegel> my buddies and I are trying to create a folder that we can both access via the internet, we would like to be able to add/remove files to the folder
[19:07] <Guest85387> dropbox?
[19:08] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Do you have any particular security requirements?
[19:08] <spikespiegel> MoPac, not too much, its going to be a mixture of ableton and music files for DJing
[19:08] <MoPac> spikespiegel: otherise, what Guest85387 said
[19:08] <OerHeks> makara then you would have sufficient acces ( /dev/ was just the example)
[19:09] <spikespiegel> dropbox will work between mac,windows and linux?
[19:09] <thunder-storm> hello :) its possible to change the background colour of the libreoffice toolbar? actually is's white - i want to change it to grey, similar to my gtk-theme installed
[19:09] <makara> OerHeks, sometimes the files just don't show up. But only in that large folder. I can see the folder, and the other folders are fine. Maybe just a bug
[19:09] <makara> spikespiegel, yes
[19:09] <spikespiegel> makara, sweet
[19:09] <OerHeks> makara do you use that drive on different ubuntu machines?
[19:09] <MoPac> I'm looking to solve two keyring problems. (1) My PGP password is staying unlocked, even when I tell Enigmail that it should only be cached for X minutes. I aissume this is a keyring manager problem, but I don't know how to fix it. (2) I want the "unlock on login" box for keyrings to be unchecked by default
[19:10] <thunder-storm> #libreoffice
[19:10] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Yep, Dropbox is (insecure) magic
[19:10] <spikespiegel> MoPac, how easily will someone be able to come in and delete everything?
[19:10] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Not that easily; it's not open like Wikipedia
[19:10] <makara> OerHeks, yes. I did something unusual though, I changed my user and computer name. But I've changed the ownership and groups of all files on the disk.
[19:11] <OerHeks> makara with the -R recursive option?
[19:11] <spikespiegel> MoPac, should be fine than, lol doubt someone will be willing to go through the time to delete DJ sets
[19:11] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Dropbox doesn't keep your files encrypted and has had some vulnerabilities in the past, but the idea is that your files are private
[19:11] <makara> OerHeks, -hR
[19:11] <spikespiegel> MoPac, it wont be too big of a deal, its basically so when i finish a file i can add it, he can download it do something to it and re upload it
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, I wouldn't use dropbox to store stuff. I like to think of it as a glorified mailbox.
[19:12] <spikespiegel> is there something available that offers more than 2gb for free?
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, dropbox.com does keep versions of your files though
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, google drive, ubuntuone
[19:12] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Dropbox actually does more than that. It syncs versions of the files, so if he works on something that you added and just saves it, the file will just update to the new version
[19:12] <OerHeks> spikespiegel, ubuntu-one 5 gb, wuala 5 gb etc
[19:13] <MoPac> spikespiegel: (although as makara said, you can still retrieve old versions)
[19:13] <spikespiegel> can windows/mac access ubuntuone?
[19:13] <OerHeks> spikespiegel, sure
[19:13] <OerHeks> https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/
[19:14] <makara> patricknellum, use an ethernet cable. Wifi is tricky technology
[19:15] <nullsign> wifi gave me cancer, true story.
[19:15] <OerHeks> or 1 Tb free (flickr)
[19:16] <Orxata_> Hi
[19:16] <OerHeks> nullsign, hard to prove. and not really an ubuntu support issue, is it?
[19:16] <nullsign> OerHeks: sure it is, there is a kernel patch to cure cancer in ubuntu 12.04
[19:16] <aleksey> all use? compiz
[19:16] <aleksey> +
[19:17] <Orxata_> I have a question: When I try to remove openjdk-7-jre with apt-get remove then it installs openjdk-6-jre and viceversa. How can I just remove openjdk-X?
[19:17] <MoPac> aleksey: Sorry, could you clarify your question?
[19:17] <aleksey> Who of you uses compiz
[19:18] <MoPac> Orxata_: maybe in synaptic packag manager, you could untick everything that contains "openjdk" ?
[19:18] <MoPac> aleksey: Compiz is a part of Ubuntu, so almost everyone here uses it.
[19:18] <patricknellum> i wish that i could use ethernet. unfortunately wireless is my only option. i know the code in terminal to log in just not with the pass key
[19:18] <_joey> what's a good screenshot application on linux?
[19:18] <DJones> !screenshot | _joey
[19:19] <aleksey> I hear that there is no more support ubuntu
[19:19] <aleksey> compiz**
[19:19] <_joey> and where is the file of the screenshot is saved on the hdd?
[19:19] <MoPac> aleksey: This room could prove you wrong, depending on what your question is.
[19:19] <Orxata_> Ah, I'm gonna try, MoPac. Thank you
[19:20] <felon> whats the command to list how many wireless cards are installed......i having problems
[19:20] <sinkensabe> _joey: shutter
[19:20] <DJones> _joey: It gives you the option of where you save it, the default is in pictures
[19:20] <makara> felon, iw
[19:20] <_joey> bs
[19:20] <DJones> _joey: So /home/username/Pictures
[19:21] <_joey> prtscr does not take screenshots
[19:21] <_joey> maybe in Gnome or KDE
[19:21] <DJones> _joey: Working in Ubuntu with Unity
[19:22] <sinkensabe> _joey: you might want to try Shutter if you havent already
[19:22] <_joey> sinkensabe: what's a syntax for shutter?
[19:22] <felon> ty makara
[19:22] <aleksey> ow to manage PC voice in ubuntu
[19:22] <MoPac> aleksey: Ubuntu is moving to a new window system called Mir. But compiz is still being supported at the moment.
[19:22] <aleksey> how to manage PC voice in
[19:22] <_joey> I have evince running pdf with a graphics of which I want to take a screenshot
[19:23] <MoPac> Does shutter capture video as well?
[19:23] <sinkensabe> _joey: what do you mean? you searched for a good screenshot application? correct? Shutter allows you to select the area and have a number of tools for editing and such
[19:23] <sinkensabe> MoPac: dont think so
[19:24] <makara> patricknellum, why don't you download the iso from your Android device and copy it across
[19:24] <_joey> sinkensabe: okay, you have no clue about things you are advising others
[19:25] <patricknellum> how would i load it in the terminal. if i download it. when i type startx it tells me to use the get function and then it informs me that i need to download it. how would i use my android to load the file via terminal
[19:26] <sinkensabe> _joey: okey
[19:26] <OerHeks> _joey, just hit the printscreen button, as a screenshot app is already installed, save it and you will find the screenshot in your /home/ or ~/pictures/ folder
[19:27] <Guest74987> is t possible to install software from synaptic when using the live cd?
[19:27] <patricknellum> im in front of my laptop right now as well
[19:27] <Orxata_> MoPac, didn't work, it also installs openjdk-6 when I remove openjdk-7
[19:27] <OerHeks> Guest74987, sure, install synaptic first
[19:28] <OerHeks> Guest74987, all installed software will be in memory, and deleted after reboot
[19:28] <Guest74987> OerHeks, i'm curious does it save it to the CD, HDD or ram?
[19:28] <_joey> OerHeks: Ubuntu != Unity|Gnome|KDE
[19:28] <Guest74987> oh
[19:28] <makara> patricknellum, we chat private
[19:29] <patricknellum> how do i log into private chat
[19:29] <SN3> Why is Netbeans so ugly in Ubuntu?
[19:29] <andygraybeal> how can i print http://www.example.com/file.pdf  from the shell?  can i do a 'lp' command?
[19:30] <Guest74987> what do you think is the best TV turner software for Ubuntu that is compatible with the most TV turners?
[19:31] <MoPac> Orxata_: When you look in Synaptic now, does it have openJDK6 marked as installed?
[19:31] <_joey> hmmm
[19:31] <patricknellum> makara how do i use private chat
[19:32] <_joey> 2013 - linux does not have a decent screenshot application on desktop station
[19:32] <_joey> says it all
[19:32] <Orxata_> Yes, MoPac
[19:32] <Orxata_> openjdk6 installed, openjdk7 not installed
[19:32] <Guest74987> tuner*
[19:33] <OerHeks> _joey so you are not on ubuntu?
[19:34] <Orxata_> The problem is, I don't want to use OpenJDK anymore, I want to install the oracle jdk
[19:34] <MoPac> Orxata_: And I'm assuming that your goal is to have no version at all, right? or is there an earlier one you want
[19:34] <DJones> _joey: It might help if you said what desktop you were using
[19:34] <makara> patricknellum, can you see where it says #ubuntu. Are there other channels?
[19:35] <_joey> OerHeks: Ubuntu != Unity|Gnome|KDE
[19:35] <tones> in ubuntu using chrome how do you make every mp3 file default open in VLC?
[19:35] <MoPac> you should be able to mark openJDK-6 for complete removal, then if it installs 7, do the same thing for it
[19:35] <_joey> linux base attracted many retards
[19:35] <Orxata_> MoPac, I want to use the oracle jdk. Maybe I could install it without having to remove the openJDK
[19:35] <tones> about: config is blank page
[19:36] <GH0> Hey could someone look at something for me? My phone was resting on my bed while I was watching TV in our living room, I went to grab my phone, checked the battery stat, and noticed a blank area which indicated it restarted. So I looked at the uptime and it is only an hour or so. SO I pulled the last_kmesg from /proc/ . I see a lot of things, but none of them quite make much sense to me. This is on Sprint's stock ROM with root and CWM. http://pastebin.com/xxhf
[19:36] <GH0> AdxJ
[19:36] <MoPac> Orxata_: I mean, I think you should be able to uninstall it if you want. Ubuntu wouldn't be forcing you to keep any package.
[19:36] <GH0> http://pastebin.com/xxhfAdxJ
[19:36] <GH0> Xchat seems to have broken the line up.
[19:37] <makara> patricknellum, what IRC client are you using?
[19:37] <aberrant> hi all
[19:37] <MoPac> Orxata_: I think that if you can get both versions marked for complete removal, you should give that a try.
[19:37] <aberrant> where can I go to see the commits for the latest updates? I note that login(1) and passwd(1) were updated recently. I'd like to see the changes.
[19:37] <felon> in ubuntu are you still able to bridge wireless connections. cant seem to find it
[19:37] <Orxata_> I'm gonna try, MoPac
[19:38] <MoPac> So mark 6 for complete removal, then see if it installs 7 without your permission. If it does, mark 7 for removal too, and hopefully it will work.  If it tries putting 7 back on there, you can also force version
[19:38] <Orxata_> However
[19:38] <DJones> GH0: I think you're in the wrong channel for that question, this is Ubuntu support
[19:38] <Orxata_> I can't mark 7 for removal, since it's not instaled
[19:38] <jtreminio> Hi all. I am adding a PPA that has an updated Apache version. However, I don't want to install that Apache version, I want the one that's included by default. How do I install a specific version from a repo?
[19:38] <GH0> Oh... lol, whoops.
[19:38] <GH0> Thought I had clicked #sgs4
[19:38] <GH0> My bad
[19:39] <MoPac> Orxata_: Right, just do it for 6, and if it puts 7 on there, then do it for  7, and hopefully it won't be able to put 6 back on
[19:39] <DJones> GH0: Had to read it a couple of times though, was about to point you to #ubuntu-touch thinking you were running Ubuntu on a phone
[19:40] <MoPac> Orxata_: Although it's also possible that that these programs are dependencies for others. It's possible that what's happening is that some version is getting installed because some other package needs a JDK. So if this doesn't work, you may need to try installing the oracle one first and then removing openjdk
[19:40] <Orxata_> Ahá
[19:41] <m_> hello do u know how to install sensor temperature
[19:41] <Orxata_> So... MoPac.. can you help me install oracleJDK? I've already downloaded the source file and I've unpacked on /usr/java/ (which is a new dir)
[19:41] <m_> ??
[19:42] <MoPac> Orxata_: hopefully it has an install readme?
[19:43] <MoPac> I really know nothing about the particulars of that program
[19:44] <Mace268> might try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:44] <Orxata_> Oh
[19:44] <Orxata_> thanks to both of you
[19:45] <Orxata_> Oh! Very useful Mace268!
[19:49] <zykotick9> !sensors | m_
[19:52] <fellayaboy> hello
[19:53] <f00bar80> while trying to install ubuntu 12.10 from USB i got E: Malformed line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list ( absolute dist ) , line 5 is : deb cdrom:[ubuntu-server 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ release i386 (201210172)]/Grub recovery/ rating main rating multiverse rating universe , any idea what's wrong ?
[19:53] <holstein> f00bar80: could be a bad download. or bad install media.. i would download 13.04 and try again
[19:54] <f00bar80> holstein, i'm installing from USB pen
[19:54] <f00bar80> holstein, i've tried two different iso
[19:54] <holstein> f00bar80: sure.. the "usb media" could be bad.. or the download
[19:54] <OerHeks> malformed line, do a md5sum
[19:54] <holstein> !md5 | f00bar80
[19:55] <dontyouwish> hello.  noob here....currently running 12.04 64 bit off dvd in drive.....how do i install directly to usb and still have the ability to save files without having to reinstall everytime
[19:55] <holstein> i use unetbootin, and i format before making the stick.. not the only way to make a bootable stick, but it works for me
[19:56] <holstein> dontyouwish: i just do an install to the USB stick as if its a drive.. the issue is going to be installing grub onto the stick instead of the main hard drive
[19:56] <holstein> i might do a minimal insatll, and manually install grub where i want.. then, add what i want to the installation
[19:56] <dontyouwish> i am very new to his OS.  i see in the install part it asks for file partitioning.  i have a 32 gig usb drive id like to install the OS onto and be able to build my own personl OS on it
[19:57] <wiehan> how do I add a user to a group via terminal
[19:57] <holstein> dontyouwish: if you are "new", consider just running it live.. or live with persistence.. from a pendrive linux guide
[19:57] <holstein> dontyouwish: otherwise, its just like a typical install, using the USB as the destination drive, but you will break the bootloader current setup that way
[19:58] <dontyouwish> well i dont want to later on re install everything all over again
[19:58] <holstein> wiehan: sudo adduser 'yourusername' 'groupname'
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: installations usually take about 8 minutes.. i think its a good idea to "plan for failure" and have data backed up
[19:59] <holstein> !mini
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: ^^the mini iso asks about installing grub, and you can choose to not install it and set it up manually later.. of the USB stick
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: what youare asking is "easiest" from the persistence method, arguably
[20:00] <MoPac> f00bar80: is "rating" there where it should be "raring" or "quantal" ?
[20:00] <dontyouwish> to holstein, i have used ubuntu on cd and usb drive in the try out mode for quite some time now
[20:00] <dontyouwish> now i want to go the exra step
[20:00] <DoverMo> holstein, does the install not recognize a usb for boot destination?
[20:00] <DoverMo> er
[20:00] <holstein> dontyouwish: the extra step is, either install or use persistence
[20:01] <holstein> DoverMo: yes
[20:01] <dontyouwish> ok but when it comes to a fresh install with nothing on the usb drive, what do i format the first part to xfat, swap, ext3?
[20:01] <MoPac> I'm trying to solve two Keyrings problems. (1) My PGP password is being cached indefinitely even if I tell Enigmail to only store for X minutes. (2) When unlocking keyrings, I need the "unlock on login" box unchecked by default
[20:02] <holstein> dontyouwish: you let the installer do it "automatically"
[20:02] <dontyouwish> the installer still asks me for install location and i send to usb and its asking about root directory and such
[20:03] <f00bar80> MoPac, the line above is as it shows in sources.list
[20:03] <karen_> Hi, I'm working on aan illustrated book with thebookpatch.com. They have templates to download and then you send your book PDF to them to print out. They said that Word and InDesign works with them. Does anyone know if LibreOffice is compatable and able to do the same with the Linux system?
[20:03] <Orxata_> [doctor_who@doctorwho-SMBIOS:/usr/lib/jvm]$java -version
[20:03] <Orxata_> java version "1.7.0_25"
[20:03] <Orxata_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_25-b15)
[20:03] <Orxata_> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.25-b01, mixed mode)
[20:03] <FloodBot1> Orxata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <holstein> dontyouwish: you say "use the USB stick as the destination with automatic partitioning"
[20:03] <Orxata_> ups, sorry
[20:03] <holstein> dontyouwish: or, remove/unplug the internal hard drive, leaving only the USB. .and do a normal install
[20:04] <DJones> karen_: You should be able to save a libreoffice document at MS Word .doc or .docx without any issues
[20:04] <dontyouwish> how to i let it auto partition, im on MBP
[20:04] <holstein> dontyouwish: what is "MBP"? mac book pro?
[20:04] <dontyouwish> :)
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: you can also, take the stick to another machine.. then, refit or whatever you are using will see the installation from the USB
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: if the question is "how to i partition a drive for installation?".. let the installer do it.. on MBP or not
[20:05] <dontyouwish> so you are saying i can use my windows machine and install it directly to the usb from dvd on that and just go from there
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: if you want to manually partition, you can use a 1gb swap and the rest ext4
[20:05] <karen_> So, when you do each page, you save it as MS Word.doc or .docx?  Not too smart with software here., sorry.
[20:05] <dontyouwish> i dont want to use refit either
[20:06] <rod_> use refit
[20:06] <holstein> dontyouwish: thats the way i have gotten USB to boot
[20:06] <holstein> dontyouwish: i think you will have to
[20:06] <DoverMo> holstein, couldn't one unmount the other partitions, use the installer, than setup grub in a chroot post install?
[20:06] <MoPac> f00bar80: I don't know for sure, but in that line you pasted above, where the word "rating" is, I would have thought that the word "raring" would be
[20:06] <guntbert> karen_: I don't know about the templates but libreoffice can generate PDF without problems
[20:06] <DJones> karen_: Libreoffice will work in the same way as MS Word, pretty much whatever you do with word, you would do the same with Libreoffice
[20:06] <holstein> DoverMo: one can do *any* more challenging things that you are welcome to talk the new user dontyouwish through
[20:06] <MoPac> f00bar80:  or "quantal", since that's the version you're installing
[20:07] <holstein> what do i suggest? being cautious and reading the grub documents, dontyouwish .. and doing a live stick with persistence that will boot on any machine
[20:07] <karen_> o.k., so I save the pages as what again?
[20:07] <DJones> karen_: .doc or .docx (Thats the normal MS Word formats)
[20:08] <karen_> THANK YOU!
[20:09] <madzarx> Hello :))
[20:10] <jitngrbvuirt> quit
[20:10] <jitngrbvuirt> exit
[20:12] <wad> Question: when I do "iptables -L" there are some entries in here that I set up a while back. But I think I'm losing my mind... I don't remember how I set them up. Now I need to add another one, and I can't remember how. When this machine boots, where does it get its iptables config from?
[20:15]  * wad looks around hopefully
[20:15] <asd_> so i have problem with installing chrominum on xubuntu, i downloaded it from google and then it opens it in software center but it wont install it just leaves this message : Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.69'}): org.debian.apt.install-file
[20:17] <flipper88_fl> asd_ after closing software center. in a terminal try an sudo apt-get -f install
[20:17] <DoverMo> Guest9975, chromium is avaliabe via universe and isn't needed from google repo
[20:18] <Guest9975> how do i go to universe?
[20:18] <Guest9975> and what is universe?
[20:18] <flipper88_fl> Guest9975: Try midori as it is a light weight browser too
[20:18] <zykotick9> is "chromium" even available from google?  isn't that Chrome?
[20:21] <failmaster> wad, you can just store the rules in the file like described here https://wiki.debian.org/iptables in case there is some stuff that adds rules automatically you can troubleshoot it via syslog for example
[20:21] <Guest9975> yea its avaliable from google
[20:22] <failmaster> !sections
[20:22] <failmaster> !repositories
[20:24] <flipper88_fl> FWI the screen shots on the link posted are five +9 years old gusty gibbion was released in 2007
[20:27] <dhvujgfdhj_> Hi
[20:30] <ghbvcyikgcvbj> Potty
[20:31] <wad> failmaster, thanks!
[20:35] <wad> failmaster, that helped me a lot! It reminded me of where I had put the script I used to set it up. :)
[20:45] <arthur_> Hello!
[20:45] <arthur_> I get this when I try installing Ubuntu
[20:45] <arthur_> http://gyazo.com/39c63d83694a306516be0f02e64f3bfc.png
[20:45] <arthur_> What should I do?
[20:45] <arthur_> I'm installing it via CD
[20:45] <FloodBot1> arthur_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47]  * peroht notices all files in his samba-share has vanished
[20:47] <peroht> yikes
[20:47] <Therzo> Can anyone help with my mountall / ZFS issue? https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!topic/zfs-discuss/gi1AXgZgGHo
[20:48] <MoPac> arthur_: what happens when you type "continue"
[20:49] <MoPac> arthur_: ah okay now I read more on that screen. So it looks like the loader isn't finding the right drive or the right partition on which Ubuntu has been installed. Firstly, is this screen something you're seeing after you installed Ubuntu, or before?
[20:50] <icelite> Anyone from india/
[20:50] <icelite> ?
[20:50] <MoPac> arthur_: Are you there?
[20:50] <arthur_> MoPac: when I type continue I get an error message on my monitor
[20:50] <makara> icelite, why?
[20:51] <MoPac> arthur_: when you type, "ls" cdoes anything come up?
[20:51] <MoPac> *does
[20:51] <icelite> asking jsut
[20:51] <|System|> Hello
[20:51] <|System|> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5967730/
[20:53] <MoPac> icelite: There is a channel #ubuntu-in
[20:53] <icelite> ok
[20:53] <icelite> makara:  reply
[20:53] <daftykins> |System|: trying to run a HL game server? hldsupdatetool is deprecated.
[20:53] <allure> just installed a 29" fullhd monitor, but the fonts look terrible on it... how do I fix this?
[20:54] <|System|> daftykins Would you happen to know what I can use now to run some steam servers ?
[20:54] <daftykins> |System|: it's all documented in Steam's stuff, can't remember the name offhand but it's some acronym i think
[20:55] <daftykins> |System|: steamCMD
[20:55] <|System|> Ahh, Okay. Thank you very much. I shall lookup on it.
[20:55] <allure> just installed a 29" fullhd monitor, but the fonts look terrible on it, really bad reading... how do I fix this?
[20:56] <elderx> allure: are you running it with native resolution ?
[20:57] <allure> elderx, 1080p
[20:58] <allure> okie dokie... it seems no one knows what to do with this crappy monitor =D
[20:58] <redramp22> OK, wtf is going on with ubuntu. i installed 13.10 and it has been a pain in the but. this is my first time using linux. i can run .exe without archive manager thinking there an zip file or somthing. also, cant get wobbley windows. whats up with that? just using unity
[20:58] <|System|> daftykins
[20:58] <|System|> I got the same error again.
[20:59] <|System|> On the SteamCMD
[20:59] <daftykins> |System|: pastebin?
[20:59] <|System|> http://pastebin.com/eikaYbHj
[21:00] <daftykins> |System|: you didn't chmod +x it
[21:00] <DJones> redramp22: 13.10 probably isn't the best to start with, thats still in development, so you should expect things to broken.  However, as you've got it installed, can you join #ubuntu+1 and ask any questions there, thats the support channel for development versions
[21:00] <|System|> http://pastebin.com/7UPMkhQ1
[21:01] <redramp22> well how would i change to somthing more stable, like 12.04?
[21:01] <sinkensabe> cd ..
[21:01] <sinkensabe> ops sry
[21:01] <DJones> redramp22: You can't downgrade versions, you would need to download the iso, put it on a dvd/usb and do a fresh install
[21:02] <redramp22> alright thanks
[21:02] <|System|> Seems like it might be a issue with my bash.
[21:03] <daftykins> |System|: also you're breaking all kinds of safe practises by using root to do that.
[21:03] <DJones> redramp22: 12.04 is a Long Term Support version with support and updates for 5 years, 13.04 is the latest release, but that is only supported for 9 months with updates (the expectation is that users will upgrade once 13.10 is officially released)
[21:04] <|System|> daftykins I don't mind it right this second. my server isnt publiclly accessable.
[21:04] <tigrang> is the only way to add a host via editing /etc/hosts, is there a command to temporarily add one via a script?
[21:07] <frinott> |System|: u need steampipe to use that
[21:07] <Danic> Hi there! When browsing the file system in the explorer, can't I just enter a path anywhere and brwose to it? Is there no such thing?
[21:08] <fellayaboy> hey where can i find those variables that the linux system uses...such as $USER
[21:08] <|System|> fiinott is there a script which you know works and I can download and run on my server to test to see if it is my bash ?
[21:08] <fellayaboy> where are those variables usually stored?
[21:08] <crankharder> anyone know how to specify in an upstart config what pid file it should be checking?  seems like this should be an obvious config param
[21:08] <crankharder> fellayaboy: env
[21:09] <zykotick9> Danic: try CTRL+L
[21:09] <fellayaboy> where is env?
[21:09] <Danic> zykotick9: working :) thx
[21:09] <fellayaboy> crankharder where is env
[21:09] <crankharder> fellayaboy: type it in your terminal
[21:09] <fellayaboy> oh
[21:10] <fellayaboy> awwessome thanks crankharder...where is the location of env too..the file?
[21:11] <g_byers> hehe
[21:11] <fellayaboy> i see some files/scripts that say [ -z foo] ..what is -Z
[21:14] <goddard> anygot 7950s working in crossfire?
[21:14] <goddard> anyone got *
[21:17] <sampson623> Can someone help me with ... wubi...
[21:18] <sampson623> Or does anyone know where I can get help with Wubi
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  just ask the question here and see
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> but its best to move away from wubi.
[21:21] <Ari-Yang> !wubi > sampson623
[21:21] <sampson623> Oh, I cant use Wubi with windows 8?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  No you can not.
[21:22] <sampson623> Shoot. Where is there a safe way to install ubuntu then (I've been told you can smoke your hard drive)
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> Wubi is basically a dead project for many reasons
[21:22] <angs> is ubuntu's terminal tmux?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  it cant 'smoke' your hard drive.  it can  mess with windows installs. and there is/was a known bug with SAMSUNG laptops (some makes) that can cause the laptop to be bricked. but that was not ubuntus specific
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  'safest' way to test out Ubuntu would be to run it in virtualbox
[21:23] <sampson623> I have an HP Laptop so the samsung bug wont affect me
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> personally id go get a affordable SSD for the laptop. remove the windows HD.. lock it away.. install the ssd and put ubuntu on that. ;)
[21:25] <sampson623> Well how much of a risk is it really if I just partion my drive
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  always have backups of your imporntant stuff.. and  for a windows box. Id be sure to know how to restore windows. Make a restoreDVD set with the windows tools.
[21:25] <DoverMo> sampson623, the only reason your hard drive would fail is that if your hard drive was actually faulty at that point in time
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> and perhaps make a 'image backup' of windows - if you want to be extra safe
[21:26] <sampson623> How do I make an image backup Dr_Willis
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> the biggest 'risk' is you some how 'break' the os. and dont have an os that boots properly. you would then need to reinstall
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  for windows.. ask in #windows
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> I never bother imageing windows. I just reinstall it.
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> I would imagine clonezilla can do it.
[21:27] <sampson623> This laptop is pretty much a reddit machine. I could just factory restore it if something gets wonky, right?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Do you know HOW to do that? do you have a 'dvd restore disk set' ?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> DONT rely on the HD 'restore' partitions
[21:29] <sampson623> I'm sure this laptop is still under warranty
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> warrenty wont do much good if you delete your entire hard drive and need to reinstall windows to it.
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> and there should be a tool on the windows side to make a dvd-restore-disk-set
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> thats the first thing i do on any new windows machine i get/setup. make a DVD set.
[21:30] <sampson623> I can create a recovery drive. Would that be what I want?
[21:31] <sampson623> I'll just ask in Windows, thanks!
[21:32] <bcows> I am trying to resize a partition with gparted, I booted from by ubuntu dvd by restarting and selecting the "try it" option, I then start gparted, I have a primary partition (the one i want to resize) an extended partition for swap, and the unallocated block in that order, when I try to resize the primary partition it won't let me use the unallocated space, any ideas ?
[21:33] <irssi-mike> bcows: no ideas tho i know when i did it it had to be logical not primary
[21:34] <GEEGEEGEE> Which drivers should I use for a HD7000 series AMD graphics card, and what package(s) do i need to remove to stop the Amazon spyware?
[21:34] <flipper88_fl> On a master bottrecord scheme disk you're only allowed upto four primary partitions
[21:34] <daftykins> GEEGEEGEE: latest non-beta for the first, google for the second
[21:35] <irssi-mike> bcows: meaning when you slice that new space choose logical instead of primary
[21:41] <bcows> hrmm irssi-mike it says the 2nd partition is status busy/mounted .... but I am booting from the ubuntu dvd...
[21:41] <zykotick9> bcows: try "sudo swapoff -a" from terminal
[21:50] <bcows> thanks zykotick9 that unmounted it
[21:52] <angs> does ubuntu's terminal allows you to make a search among texts are on the terminal?
[21:53] <dgarstang> Is there a user equivalent of /etc/profile.d ?
[21:53] <bcows> when I try to move the swap partition to the right into the unallocated space it won't let me move the partition only expand it into that space, the spinners on the "space preceding" are grayed out/disabled
[21:54] <zykotick9> bcows: if that swap is a Logical partition, it MUST be inside the Extended partition
[21:54] <jrib> dgarstang: a directory structure for user config you mean?
[21:54] <dgarstang> jrib: I mean.... something like /etc/profile.d/foo ..... but on a per user basis, maybe in ~/.profile.d/foo
[21:55] <jrib> dgarstang: there isn't but you can copy the stanza that enables /etc/profile.d from your /etc/profile and create one if you wish
[21:55] <dgarstang> jrib: yah just found it
[21:55] <jrib> dgarstang: (there is ~/.profile)
[21:55] <bcows> zykotick9, sorry thats what I meant I am trying to move the extended partition that holds the swap partition... gparted will only let me expand it, not move it
[21:56] <dgarstang> jrib: kinda wanted seperate scripts.
[21:56] <lorddelta> Hey, I'm having an issue with an upstart job - mysql to be exact. Would this be the best place to report it, or is upstart mysql's responsibility?
[21:56] <zykotick9> bcows: sorry, i wouldn't know... good luck.
[21:56] <lorddelta> I already found (both) bugs, so its just a matter of reporting it I suppose
[21:56] <jrib> dgarstang: right, you would put the stanza to source ~/.profile.d (copy and modify what you see in /etc/profile) in your ~/.profile
[21:56] <dgarstang> jrib: yah.... thanks.
[21:58] <cartusia> in ubuntu unity what would be the equivalent for klipper in the GUI?
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> cartusia  glipper
[21:59] <cartusia> thanks
[22:02] <bcows> ah figured it out zykotick9... you have to first expand it into the unallocated space, then in a second resizing shrink it to the right back to it's original size to move it to the right
[22:03] <bcows> documented here if anyone runs into it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/OperatingSystemsAndPartitions
[22:03] <zykotick9> bcows: glad you figured it out.  nice!
[22:06] <lorddelta> well the folks over at #mysql seem to think its ubuntu that handles upstart jobs. Proceeding to file a bug.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> Upstart is a ubuntu feature lorddelta
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !upstart | lorddelta
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> lorddelta:  what is the exact issue you are having?
[22:11] <nightrider72> hi all
[22:11] <angs> does ubuntu's terminal allows you to make a search among texts are on the terminal?
[22:12] <nightrider72> anyone has experience with using 802.1x with machine based authentication using EAP/TLS (computer certificates)?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  that would be a feature of the terminal emulator you are using i imagine.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  ive not noticed that feature in gnome-terminal., but konsole MIGHT have a feature like that
[22:12] <zykotick9> angs: are you familiar with grep?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  you mean search the terminals  'output history buffer' correct?
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> 'on the terminal'  is a little vague ;P
[22:13] <zykotick9> angs: grep won't directly help you with what your asking (i believe), but it's VERY handy to search in any terminal output you give it.
[22:15] <nightrider72> 802.1x anyone?  ;)
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> nightrider72:  be a bit more specific in your question.
[22:15] <Dastweeper> Would anyone be able to assist with a networking problem?
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !details
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !anyone
[22:15] <Dastweeper> Can do:
[22:15] <nightrider72> ubuntu 12.04LTS
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Dastweeper, there is a #networking channel as well for the record.
[22:16] <booh> I have ubuntu on /dev/sda2.  I've just installed kubuntu on /dev/sda4.  How to boot on it?  I don't see any grub menu at boot... it always boot directly in ubuntu.
[22:16] <nightrider72> wow
[22:16] <nightrider72> I'll go there thankyou
[22:16] <Dastweeper> I'Thanks for that, wilee.
[22:16] <rhtrar> hi all, does anybody know if there is a way to access Google Hangouts  from other messaging programs, such as pidgin?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Dastweeper, No problem it is actually ##networking
[22:17] <kubblai> booh: Iirc you can try the ubuntu boot fix tool
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> booh:  you do realize you can install just the Kubuntu/kde desktop on top of your Ubuntu install - then select what desktop to use at the login screen?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> booh:  if you boot to one of the ubuntus and rerun 'sudo update-grub' it Should find and show both installs ont eh grub menu at boot time
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> booh:  these are 2 differnt ubuntu versions? or just kubuntu 13.04 and ubuntu 13.04?
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> booh, One of the linux installs will control the boot, you can choose which one if you want and reload the grub-bootloader to the mbr from the terminal in its deskstop, with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   X ix the HD not a partition.
[22:21] <booh> ubuntu 13.04 32bits and kubuntu 13.04 64 bits ;-)
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> i dont relly se emuch point in 2 seperate installs..  ive rarely ever had 64bit issues
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:22] <Dastweeper> Well, I'll ask here anyways: How do you connect to an unsecured wireless network via terminal?
[22:22] <angs> Dr_Willis, zykotick9, yes I meant search a text on the terminals  'output history buffer'
[22:22] <booh> Ok I tried update-grub.. I reboot ;-)
[22:23] <zykotick9> angs: i'm unaware of any output history, the "history" command can easily be searched for command you've run.  best of luck.