[00:00] <rvgate> EriC^^, no... because on IDE mode, it didnt boot the live cd... it only worked when i changed mode to ahci
[00:00] <EriC^^> rvgate: ok, i guess you could try the instructions in the link eikon81g gave you
[00:02] <EriC^^> !ops | rever spamming in pm
[00:02] <eikon81g> EriC^^, you are a beast, I learned alot from that rundown you did. Good stuff man
[00:03] <aotea> So, having survived with no crash for just about two hours now on Nouveau I guess I can conclude my Nvidia drivers had issues on my machine jumping off the bus all the time :P Anyone else gotten xorg restarts at random intervals, Ubuntu 15.10 Nvidia 340 & 352 drivers?
[00:06] <eikon81g> ikonia, sorry we got a little out of the topic but it was strictly related to a dualboot issue.
[00:06] <ikonia> no big deal
[00:06] <ikonia> don't sweat it
[00:06] <OneM_Industries> Hey, can anyone recommend a good getting started with Linux guide?
[00:07] <EriC^^> !manual | OneM_Industries this is nice
[00:07] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: https://help.ubuntu.com
[00:08] <Bashing-om> OneM_Industries: Also : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[00:09] <OneM_Industries> Thank you!
[00:09] <rvgate> eikon81g, EriC^^, followed these instructions provided by eikon81g: http://www.tenforums.com/performance-maintenance/15006-attn-ssd-owners-enabling-ahci-mode-after-windows-10-installation.html, now on AHCI mode, windows booted, ubuntu booted... thanks a lot guys (or girls) :D
[00:10] <rvgate> !cookie | eikon81g
[00:10] <rvgate> !cookie | EriC^^
[00:10] <iluminati> when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same
[00:10] <EriC^^> ty, good job eikon81g
[00:10] <eikon81g> lol, yall have a great night. learned alot, thank you both as well. i'll pop in later!! Thanks EriC^^
[00:11] <EriC^^> you too
[00:12] <iluminati> when i am trying to pair devices with bluetooth it connect and disconnect any idea i tried with many bluetooth adapters and is the same
[00:12] <eikon81g> !pulseaudi
[00:12] <eikon81g> !pulseaudio
[00:13] <eikon81g> iluminati, get the pulseaudio bluetooth module
[00:15] <basttrax> Hey all
[00:18] <eikon81g> iluminati, apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-module-bluetooth < i think
[00:19] <iluminati> eikon81g, keep the same connect and disconnect
[00:21] <eikon81g> iluminati, sudo service bluetooth restart
[00:22] <eikon81g> I had a similar issue and ran it down for a few days I believe this is what ended up resolving it..
[00:22] <eikon81g> (installing the pulseaudio bluetooth module)
[00:23] <basttrax> Anyone floating around?
[00:23] <Bashing-om> basttrax: I be, What is the issue ?
[00:24] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! Is there a way to see what frequencies my wifi dongle can connect to? I have a dual-band wifi set up, and a tablet can connect to 5GHrz, but I'm having a hard time getting my computer to connect
[00:24] <basttrax> Bashing-om: Wanted to set up a Ubuntu server, was wondering if anyone had any experience, or recommendations on what vendors has the best Ubuntu (or Linux in general)
[00:25] <basttrax> Ie, Lenovo or HP or Dell etc.
[00:25] <ikonia> what vendors ?
[00:25] <ikonia> ubuntu is the vendor
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> econdudeawesome  in a terminal, type   iwlist
[00:25] <ikonia> basttrax: they are just hardwware providers
[00:25] <basttrax> ikonia: hardware providers,
[00:25] <ikonia> what about them ?
[00:25] <ikonia> sorry - I'm not getting what you're asking
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> MonkeyDust: Very nice! All in the 2.4 range unfortunately. Any way to modify that, or is them the bricks?
[00:26] <eikon81g> econdudeawesome, if the card you are using now is not an AC card then you wont beable to see the 5ghz SSID
[00:26] <Welington> Algum brasileiro?
[00:26] <MonkeyDust> !br
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: How do I check that? (What is an AC card?)
[00:27] <kc8pnd> What are some mp3/media players out there?
[00:27] <MonkeyDust> !player | kc8pnd
[00:27] <eikon81g> well you pobably have a wireless g or wireless N card so this card is not capable or using that frequency.. google the model number of that card and you will probably find that it is not going to work on the 5ghz frequency
[00:28] <iluminati> eikon81g, keep the same connect and disconnect
[00:29] <eikon81g> iluminati, https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp
[00:30] <eikon81g> there are some other applications that you could install to see if your bluetooth adapter is more friendly with them
[00:30] <iluminati> eikon81g, tnx i will try
[00:30] <eikon81g> econdudeawesome, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac
[00:30] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: ah, got it. Huh, didn't realize that was a limitation for n.
[00:30] <eikon81g> yea, that band is specific to AC cards
[00:30]  * ObrienDave waves to all from out of the marshes of Denver ;P
[00:31] <someuser> Hello everyone! Just wanted to ask if I'm searching for the wrong terms with this problem: I've got an T430s; the volume up/down/mute keys as well as the print key do not work; however when in Preferences->Keyboard->Shortcuts I can assign them and they are assigned correctly; When I use acpi_listen I also see the correct keycodes and the translation to the meaning; when I assign other combinations to the shortcut it works (like ctrl+a
[00:31] <someuser> I couldn't find a topic in the forum that matches my problem. Do you know it?
[00:31] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: ac is the next iteration post n?
[00:31] <econdudeawesome> (havent checked link yet)
[00:32] <eikon81g> right
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: got it
[00:33] <eikon81g> someuser, that would be related to the thinkvantage keys they may need something for you to use them.. you could try to bind the vol up and vol dn to diff keys on your kb if you cant get those working
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: would you have any recommendations on utilities/resources to monitor traffic/personal cyber security? Still learning about a lot of this stuff.
[00:34] <someuser> yeah that's what I did with volume up/down/mute, but now I discovered that it's the same with the PRINT key and that is really annoying
[00:35] <eikon81g> honestly not really, I am a newb.. If you were worried about it I would consider a vpn.. I use one for filesharing
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: I'm more wanting to make sure I'm not contributing to a botnet accidentally :D Keep everything updated, of course, but still I feel like its a good thing to monitor
[00:36] <eikon81g> yea, that is a good question I am just not able to answer it
[00:37] <teward> what replaced gksudo, was it pkexec or something...?
[00:37] <EriC^^> econdudeawesome: change the port that ssh uses, don't permit root access, use a strong password or pubkey authentication, etc.
[00:37] <teward> (i mean as a default/standard)
[00:37] <teward> (in the latest release)
[00:37] <econdudeawesome> EriC^^: good advice, all. If I'm not running an ssh-server, is that still a concern?
[00:37] <someuser> eikon81g, do you have an idea for good searching terms? the strange thing is that the keys show up correctly in the shortcut configuration, when I assign them but do not work afterwards..
[00:37] <EriC^^> econdudeawesome: how do you login to your server?
[00:37] <EriC^^> maybe use 2FA
[00:38] <will> I need to recover some files from an inaccesable ubuntu 14.04 installation
[00:38] <Bashing-om> teward: Correct - pkexec .
[00:38] <teward> Bashing-om: thanks, I wasn't sure if it was pkexec or pk-exec, or what :)
[00:38] <teward> Bashing-om: thanks for the confirm.
[00:38] <EriC^^> will: boot a live usb
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> EriC^^: I dont log in to a server, just checking home network stuff
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> or is OpenSSH both server and client?
[00:39] <eikon81g> like a traffic monitor is what you are looking for I think
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> eikon81g: bingo
[00:39] <eikon81g> I'm not sure which one is good or how to use any of them I am sure they are out there though.. the pros may have a lead for you
[00:40] <Bashing-om> teward: One has to configure an application to authorize elevated privileges : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2303768 <- how to / why .
[00:40] <teward> Bashing-om: ahhh, so it doesn't work with everything
[00:41] <teward> Bashing-om: but most of the things that typically would need 'sudo' privileges, would probably have a repository, for the most common things in the repo?
[00:41] <Bashing-om> teward: Nope, the administrator has to set up access .
[00:41] <teward> (with policies being capable of being written for others, by sysadmins)
[00:41] <teward> :/
[00:41] <teward> okay, that's annoying...ish...
[00:41] <will> I did the live cd. (it was an encrypted disk and asked for the passphrase. This worked and the bad disk was visible. when i opend it and found the needed directory i did not have permission to use it. I assume i needed to supply my old user password. I don tkow how to do this
[00:42] <EriC^^> will: just use sudo on the live usb to copy them
[00:42] <Bashing-om> teward: Security, security and more security :)
[00:42] <teward> makes sense
[00:42] <will> can you give details of that for a noob?
[00:43] <EriC^^> sudo cp -r /mnt/path/to/files /path/to/destination
[00:43] <teward> Bashing-om: so if someone had to run gedit or such as superuser, and typically would gksudo, would there be a policy in polkit, or would an administrator need to configure a policy for it?  (trying to gauge the defaults currently)
[00:44] <EriC^^> will: you can launch the file manager with privileges too, sudo nautilus from the live usb, ( gksu nautilus in an actual install )
[00:44] <will> ok but Im not sure of the path to files (or the path to destination)
[00:44] <Bashing-om> teward: As I understand it, it is one time pain to set it up ; http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/how-to-run-gedit-and-nautilus-as-root.html .
[00:45] <EriC^^> will: use sudo nautilus , then copy and paste as usual
[00:46] <Bashing-om> teward: " /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/com.ubuntu.gedit.policy " as per : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225832 .
[00:46] <will> I did a new actual install. when i get to the old encrpted i see it with a lock but when i supply the passphrase the icon dissapearrs and i don know how to find the files
[00:46] <teward> Bashing-om: OK, i'll look there, thanks for the tips and starting point to look at :)
[00:47] <will> er ic wher do i invoke sudo nautilus ( from the live cd or the new ubuntu install)
[00:47] <Bashing-om> teward: Hey .. I too will have to learn .. maybe a day when gksu is no more . I do want to be prepared .
[00:48] <teward> heh
[00:48] <EriC^^> will: use gksu nautilus
[00:49] <will> Eric do I do that from xterm on the live cd?
[00:49] <EriC^^> will: are you in the ubuntu install right now?
[00:50] <will> yes
[00:50] <EriC^^> ok, so you had an encrypted install before? or an encrypted home dir?
[00:50] <will> encrypred install
[00:51] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[00:51] <Guest96372> What is going wrong, if my PRINT key only works in combination with the super (w!ndows) key (I'm on a laptop)?
[00:52] <will> ok do i do that in the xterm window? // sorry to be a windows idiot
[00:52] <teward> Bashing-om: feel free to share things you learn as you learn :)
[00:52] <EriC^^> yes, press ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
[00:53] <Bashing-om> teward: Ouch ... I look to you and others to show me the way .
[00:55] <will> Eric  ok I got a bunch of stuff ending with a line saying error unrecogniized disk label
[00:56] <will> sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[00:56] <EriC^^> hmm
[00:57] <will> Do you think I should attempt the nautils thing from a live cd?
[00:57] <eikon81g> is the drive mounted?
[00:58] <EriC^^> no it's ok
[00:58] <will> I'm in the new install the icon list no longer shows the locked drive after i entered the passphrase
[00:59] <eikon81g> my bad I was just scanning what yall were working on.. I spoke out of turn, I thought you were on a live cd already
[00:59] <EriC^^> will: type sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9 , paste the link here
[00:59] <will> type sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9
[01:00] <EriC^^> will: sudo blkid | nc openterm.tk 9
[01:00] <EriC^^> in the terminal
[01:00] <teward> Bashing-om: hey, I use the CLI for most stuff ;)
[01:00] <ObrienDave> in a terminal :)
[01:02] <will> I did that and nothing appeared to happen
[01:05] <Bashing-om> teward: Ditto, me too , I came up before there was a GUI .. I am never as comfortable with the GUI as I am in terminal .
[01:06] <econdudeawesome> Bashing-om: I feel the same nowadays, though I started with the GUI. I can't tell what's going on in the backend some of the time
[01:08] <EriC^^> will: try sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:09] <will> Eric same result . I just get the prompt back
[01:09] <will> cd ..
[01:11] <Koyaanis> root@kimx1:~# nano /etc/sudoers
[01:11] <Koyaanis> -bash: nano: command not found
[01:11] <Koyaanis> root@kimx1:~# apt-get install nano
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Reading package lists... Done
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Building dependency tree
[01:11] <Koyaanis> Reading state information... Done
[01:11] <EriC^^> will: odd
[01:11] <EriC^^> it's working here
[01:12] <EriC^^> will: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:12] <EriC^^> Koyaanis: use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers
[01:13] <EriC^^> also paste the error in paste.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <will> ... pastbinit  Right?   I get an error
[01:18] <EriC^^> pastebinit
[01:18] <will> Eric   i get an error commandline option 'g' from -get is not known
[01:20] <EriC^^> apt and -get are 1 word
[01:20] <EriC^^> no space between them
[01:22] <spectre> hello guys
[01:23] <will> Eric ok got      Setting up pastebinit 1.4-3 ...
[01:24] <will> where do I locate pastebinit ?
[01:24] <EriC^^> will: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[01:25] <EriC^^> you can pipe commands to it
[01:26] <will> Eric  Hmm           i just get the command prompt back
[01:27] <EriC^^> no link?
[01:27] <will> nope .  Ityped somthing while bastebinit was insalling  maybe i screwed it up
[01:28] <EriC^^> will: type alias pasteit='curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us'
[01:28] <EriC^^> alias pasteit='curl.........'
[01:28] <tgm4883> will: out of curiosity, do you get anything if you just type "sudo blkid"
[01:28] <EriC^^> then try sudo blkid | pasteit  , it's not your fault i think something odd is going on
[01:29] <will> tgm4883    yes   a lot of stuff
[01:29] <tgm4883> will:
[01:29] <tgm4883> will: ok, how about 'echo hello | pastebinit'
[01:30] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l didn't work either, nor is the server even responding to him
[01:30] <tgm4883> EriC^^: is this a server or something?
[01:31] <EriC^^> what is?
[01:31] <tgm4883> I'm just seeing this, haven't read backlog other than you guys trying to get this one command's output for the last half hour
[01:31] <EriC^^> termbin should say error connecting or so
[01:31] <EriC^^> use netcat etc
[01:31] <EriC^^> maybe he has a firewall or something?
[01:31] <tgm4883> EriC^^: I'm not sure what exactly we're trying to accomplish here. Can he not just copy and paste?
[01:32] <EriC^^> tgm4883: well yeah, we tried termbin and pastebinit, not working
[01:32] <EriC^^> if sprunge works great if not just copy paste away :)
[01:33] <EriC^^> will: alias pasteit='curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us'
[01:33] <EriC^^> will: then sudo blkid | pasteit
[01:34] <tgm4883> EriC^^: possibly, but generally users either A) know if they have a firewall that is blocking outbound connections (since they usually aren't setup that way by default) or B) they are on a network that they shouldn't be installing a Ubuntu computer on
[01:36] <will> Eric  sudo blkid : pasteit  asked for my password then wen back to command prompt
[01:36] <eikon81g> This is dumb, I know.. I am having trouble with installing filezilla
[01:36] <tgm4883> will: are you doing this command on the local computer?
[01:36] <EriC^^> will: oh, it's | not :
[01:37] <EriC^^> that'd be the problem
[01:37] <will> Sorry for wasting time but being a windows weinie I can't type :)
[01:37] <eikon81g> I have tried adding the PPA and using apt-get update and then apt-get install and it keeps telling me it's not found
[01:37] <tgm4883> eikon81g: what PPA
[01:37] <eikon81g> there was 2 or 3 I added
[01:37] <eikon81g> 1 sec
[01:37]  * tgm4883 facepalm
[01:38] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa
[01:38] <eikon81g> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa2
[01:38] <eikon81g> both of those..
[01:38] <tgm4883> eikon81g: what's wrong with the filezilla in the repos?
[01:38] <eikon81g> and then I update and try to install and I get an error
[01:38] <eikon81g> ?
[01:38] <tgm4883> eikon81g: filezilla is in the official ubuntu repositories
[01:39] <tgm4883> eikon81g: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=filezilla&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[01:39] <eikon81g> Well when I use the software store it says "Available from the universe source"
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !info filezilla
[01:39] <tgm4883> eikon81g: universe is an official ubuntu repo
[01:40] <eikon81g> yea, but instead of getting a button for install it says "use this source" I hit that it prompts me for my pw and does nothing
[01:40] <eikon81g> let me grab one off the link you posted 1 sec
[01:41] <Bashing-om> eikon81g: Is the universe repo enabled ?
[01:41] <will> I'm in xterm on a fresh install I tried sudo blkid | pasteit and got command not found
[01:41] <tgm4883> eikon81g: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit'
[01:42] <eikon81g> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14226085/
[01:42] <will> Im using | now not :
[01:43] <OerHeks> !utopic
[01:43] <will> Eric thanks for your help I feel guilty about wasting your time
[01:43] <william_doe> How bad of an idea is it to delete the Nouveau display driver?  I am having trouble getting ubuntu to keep using nvidia drivers for some reason heh.
[01:44] <tgm4883> will: I'm off to dinner, but I'd do 'sudo blkid' then copy and paste that into pastebin.com
[01:45] <will> tgm4883   tnx I;ll try that
[01:46] <juan6519> buenas noche nesecito ayuda
[01:46] <juan6519>  para configurar firefox no puedo ver videos en la web
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !es | juan6519
[01:48] <juan6519> need help cansee videos on my firefox can any one help thank
[01:48] <user_938> hi
[01:49] <juan6519> hi
[01:49] <MrXXIV> Seems other channels are inactive, but anyways, anyone know about decrypting something MySQL where "NA" becomes X'6E61' in an SQL export?
[01:49] <MrXXIV> It seems no one, in the sql channels know
[01:49] <alex> whatthe fck
[01:54] <juan6519> join ubuntu es
[02:02] <MrXXIV> lmao
[02:02] <stuxnet> ?
[02:21] <johnathan> hi
[02:21] <william_doe> guys i'm ripping my hair out here.  Any idea how to get my system to stop using my intelhd graphics and use the nvidia card?
[02:21] <johnathan> nope
[02:22] <johnathan> i need to know how to install HP Envy Wifi card Drivers into Ubuntu Home
[02:25] <owen1> how to upgrade my python to anything above 2.7.9+? i am on 14.04
[02:25] <johnathan> hello?
[02:25] <mgolisch> owen1: is there a newer 2.7.x version that 2.7.9 ?
[02:27] <owen1> mgolisch: oh. i don't know. i meant 2.7.9 or above
[02:27] <owen1> whatever is the easiest
[02:27] <mgolisch> why do you need that?
[02:27] <RNeville> Hello, do I need to make a rescue disk for Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[02:28] <mgolisch> owen1: i mean do you have any specific need for a newer python version? also if you want python3 you can just install the python3 package
[02:28] <owen1> mgolisch: let's encrypt
[02:28] <owen1> it's not working on 2.7.5
[02:29] <owen1> i mean 2.7.6
[02:29] <owen1> i am talking to them on #letsencrypt since i got https://urllib3.readthedocs.org/en/latest/security.html#insecureplatformwarning
[02:30] <owen1> maybe wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.9/Python-2.7.9.tgz ?
[02:30] <owen1> ./configure && make && sudo make install +
[02:30] <owen1> ?
[02:30] <ikonia> certainly not
[02:30] <ikonia> owen1: no never
[02:30] <ikonia> isn't there a python3 package for 14.04
[02:30] <owen1> ikonia: oh. ok (:
[02:30] <ikonia> !info python3 trusty
[02:30] <ikonia> there you go
[02:30] <ikonia> python3 for 14.04
[02:31] <ikonia> job done
[02:31] <ikonia> install the python3 package
[02:31] <owen1> ikonia: awosome! apt-get install python3
[02:31] <ikonia> pretty sure mgolisch suggested that earlier
[02:31] <owen1> python3 is already the newest version.
[02:31] <owen1> wtf
[02:31] <ikonia> don't swear
[02:32] <owen1> sorry!
[02:32] <ikonia> launch the python3 binary then
[02:32] <owen1> how to remove the old python
[02:32] <ikonia> do not remove
[02:32] <ikonia> they co-exist
[02:32] <owen1> i am running letsencrypt. it's a bash script
[02:32] <ikonia> so ?
[02:32] <owen1> i need to set my default python maybe
[02:32] <owen1> i need to tell that script to use python3
[02:32] <ikonia> use the alternatives package, or update the script with a variable for python
[02:33] <owen1> i am not sure what does 'use the alternatives package'. i'll look at the script...):
[02:33] <ikonia> set the default with update-alternatives
[02:34] <ikonia> if you look at python binary, it will probably be a symlink to python2.7 binary
[02:34] <owen1> ikonia: oh. 'sudo update-alternatives' ?
[02:34] <ikonia> the alternatives package changes that link to python3
[02:34] <ikonia> thats one way
[02:34] <owen1> perfect
[02:34] <ikonia> the shell script will probably have a varabile in it for what python binary to use
[02:34] <ikonia> I'd suggest setting that if it exists rather than changing the default on the system
[02:35] <owen1> ikonia: ok. looking..
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> owen1: there's also #letsencrypt , the default client worked on a relatively clean 15.10 for me, it pulls in a bunch of packages on its own.
[02:37] <owen1> SchrodingersScat: i am talking to them as well
[02:37] <owen1> they told me to come here...
[02:38] <owen1> it feels like a soccer game. but i am the ball.
[02:39] <mgolisch> is this realy a error?
[02:40] <owen1> that's the error: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/insecureplatformwarning-on-ubuntu-14-04-w-python-2-7-6/2871/3
[02:41] <mgolisch> https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/insecureplatformwarning-on-ubuntu-14-04-w-python-2-7-6/2871   << suggest changing the script to upgrade some stuff in the virtualenv its installed into
[02:41] <owen1> mgolisch: yeah. i tried those changes. still got a security error
[02:47] <mgolisch> you probably did something wrong
[02:48] <mgolisch> and as letsencrypt doesnt support python3 installing that wont help you at all
[02:50] <Ca11um> Why does Ubuntu (and Linux in general) not create open source projects to compete against Windows' unique features, such as Active Directory (and more specifically, Group Policy)?
[02:51] <Ca11um> I know something like that is a MAJOR project, but there doesn't seem to be anything whatsoever out there that even attempts it
[02:51] <mgolisch> ad is basicaly ldap+kerberos
[02:51] <mgolisch> the same is available on linux
[02:52] <Ca11um> I know there's also LDAP on Linux, but it's absolutely nothing like the Windows' solution
[02:52] <mgolisch> what makes microsofts stuff better is that all their software is integrated perfectly with that
[02:52] <Ca11um> Why does nobody create a GitHub project to make a comprehensive LDAP system with integrated policy management
[02:52] <mgolisch> which is hard to pull up if not everything is made by the same company
[02:53] <mgolisch> Ca11um: the next thing is for most group policy stuff it works that way: the components check special policy regsitry settings and change behavior based on that, so group policy basicaly just sets those settings in the compuiters registry
[02:53] <Ca11um> I know especially in schools the ability to completely lock down a workstation is one of the biggest concerns. So the fact Linux can't do that kind of blows its potential in the education sector.
[02:53] <mgolisch> that again only works as microsoft designed all components to support that
[02:53] <tgm4883> group policy is a pile of junk
[02:53] <mgolisch> in the linux eco system all stuff is developed by different parties which makes all that quite hard
[02:54] <mgolisch> tgm4883: no its not
[02:55] <tgm4883> mgolisch: yea, it really is. I suppose you could argue that it has it's good points, but unless you're an MCSE it's difficult to get it to work how you think it should work
[02:55] <Ca11um> Group Policy is easy as anything to use
[02:55] <xangua> !ot
[02:55] <mgolisch> no not realy, and even if its difficult thats better than having no such controls at all
[02:56] <Ca11um> We looked at using Linux at work (a secondary school), and ignoring the issue of software compatability, the thing that made us decide to never switch to Linux is the fact that students could login and do anything they desired
[02:56] <tgm4883> xangua is right, if we want to continue discussing this, we should use #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <Ca11um> There's nothing at all to limit access, which is essential for certain environments
[02:56] <tgm4883> lol
[02:59] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am having an issue burning an ISO to a DVD/CD. All DVDs and CDs are being seen as 2KB block devices, and I am unable to load the ISO to that..
[03:02] <OneM_Industries> Any ideas why Ubuntu would only see 2KB of a 700MB CD?
[03:02] <redlux> hello ubuntu
[03:03] <basttrax> redlux: Hello :)
[03:04] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: where does it show that?
[03:04] <redlux> sorry im kind of new may u point me in the direction i can ask a question bout problem im having
[03:04] <basttrax> redlux: Go ahead, I'm sure someone will jump in
[03:05] <OneM_Industries> mgolisch: Under disks.
[03:05] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: also what program do you use to burn the cd?
[03:05] <redlux> im burning iso in ubuntu 15.04 on the stock tools "disks" and "startup disk" and for some reaoson i go to dual boot and nothing
[03:05] <OneM_Industries> I was attempting to use the "Restore Image" feature in disks or "Disk image writer".
[03:06] <mgolisch> try using a cd burning program such as brasero or k3b
[03:06] <redlux> ok and what about formatting
[03:07] <basttrax> OneM_Industries: The 2kb is probably just the blank cd showing up, definately use k3b or something
[03:07] <redlux> and i know i've done it and it worked fine
[03:07] <satrah> hi all k3b is a better choice than brasero
[03:07] <mgolisch> yeah but it pulls in loads of kde stuff
[03:07] <tgm4883> Meh, I'd just use brasero
[03:07] <redlux> and i even dual booted in the distro to make sure it still worked and it did fine
[03:07] <ZcY> how to use irc for seding email?
[03:08] <redlux> like one i had from earlier
[03:08] <ZcY> send email
[03:08] <OneM_Industries> The odd thing is, it was working fine a couple days ago.
[03:08] <tgm4883> well, actually I would just use a USB, but i'd use brasero over k3b unless I was using a bunch of other kde software
[03:09] <redlux> ya im so sorry i have company lol am multi tasking ive tried on usb and cd actually and nothing
[03:09] <OneM_Industries> The box I am installing on is so old that it does not support USB boot.
[03:09] <redlux> so will try brasero right now
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> redlux: can you define 'tried dualbooting and nothing'?
[03:10] <ZcY> redlux can you send email by irc？
[03:10] <OneM_Industries> Heck, this thing is so old, you can see marks from where the dinosaurs were assembling it.
[03:10] <vm> hi
[03:10] <OneM_Industries> ZcY: That sounds like a question for google, not us. :)
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: try 'plop boot manager on cd' and force the old machine to load up usb
[03:10] <ZcY> thanks
[03:11] <OneM_Industries> As I said, it is too old to do that. It is a really, really old machine.
[03:11] <redlux> ok of course... i get to grub and i see the usb stick click and then it goes to  a lower pixel black screen with one cursor...(sorry again i shouldve explained better)
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: does it have a cd?
[03:11] <OneM_Industries> Yes, amazingly.
[03:11] <ZcY> it was a little hard to use irc by phone for me
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: then load plop boot manager from cd, so you can force usb to boot
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you see the usb stick in grub?
[03:13] <redlux> yes the name of it shows up
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you mean you see the usb stick in the bootup of your pc?
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> redlux: or you trying iso from grub install?
[03:15] <redlux> yes the name Verbatim CLIP etc....
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> redlux: and the installed Os is what?
[03:16] <redlux> Suse, kali i've been just experimenting with these
[03:17] <redlux> i have a Full ubuntu system 15.04
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> redlux: uefi system?
[03:19] <redlux> one sec sorry,,,
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> redlux: what was default Os that came on your pc?
[03:20] <redlux> Ubuntu
[03:20] <redlux> 15.04
[03:20] <redlux> open source parts and all
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you bought a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled?
[03:20] <redlux> yes
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> redlux: wich brand please
[03:21] <redlux> system76
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> redlux: ok good, check your bios settings if its uefi
[03:22] <redlux> k thanks alot one sec
[03:26] <redlux> bios
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> redlux: not uefi?
[03:27] <redlux> $ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[03:27] <redlux> BIOS
[03:27] <redlux> is that good or bad?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i think its uefi, can you see stuff like legacy/uefi? fastboot, secureboot?
[03:29] <Spider> hello world
[03:29] <redlux> lotuspsychje :ummm i kinda learning as i go here...
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> Spider: welcome, what can we do for you?
[03:29] <redlux> hmmm....
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i would advise to test other Os live or in virtualbox from your ubuntu 15.04
[03:30] <redlux> i've been to i did
[03:30] <redlux> i tried tails
[03:30] <redlux> it wokred fine
[03:30] <Spider> well i was just passing through i finally have linux on my ipad
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> redlux: dualbooting uefi is bit fiddling
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> Spider: you installed ubuntu on an ipad?
[03:31] <Spider> fun times
[03:31] <redlux> could it be that i ran some stupid commands in terminal at some point and should look into fixing that (thats all i can think of i know thats a REally BAD IDEA)
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> redlux: i dont know what you did before mate, but if have not much experience i wouldt reccomend dualboot on uefi
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> redlux: try other distro's in livemode or virtualbox instead
[03:33] <Guest48203> is there a Windows app that can properly open leafpad files that is used on Lubuntu?
[03:33] <redlux> hmm ok fair enough thanks
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> redlux: there are also ways to install other distro persistent on an usb, maybe something more for you?
[03:34] <Spider> aren't leafpad files .txt?
[03:34] <redlux> ok i'm very open to hear any suggestions
[03:34] <redlux> and this is muchly appreciated i akready got lots of valuable information sir
[03:35] <redlux> i'm new to linux
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> redlux: how about you first try other distro's in livemode :p would be great start
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !manual | redlux explore here
[03:35] <Spider> we were all new at one time
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest48203: for windows questions ask in ##windows please
[03:36] <redlux> hah ya thx i'm just glad im here now better late than never is what i keep telling myself
[03:37] <Spider> linux is great i use it for everything
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> redlux: ubuntu is very nice on a machine, so i would advise to let it as main Os on your expensive machine :p
[03:37] <Guest48203> lotuspsychje, leafpad is a linux only software that ships on a Ubuntu variant
[03:37] <redlux> for sure i'm just experimenting with some things thats all
[03:38] <Spider> redlux, once you get familiar with linux you will unlock its true potential it just takes time
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest48203: yes, and you asking for a windows app, ask in ##windows please
[03:38] <Guest48203> lotuspsychje, why is lUbuntu using leafpad, if its default files aren't even compaitable anywhere else?
[03:39] <redlux> not trying to do any harm i like your suggestions tho
[03:39] <Guest48203> it is basically using propriety closed source software
[03:39] <redlux> spider, thank you
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> redlux: you can use this channel for all ubuntu related questions, for more chitchat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <mgolisch> is this a joke? leafpad is a texteditor?
[03:40] <mgolisch> tried notepad.exe? iam sure it can open text files
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> mgolisch: lets not support windows here please
[03:41] <Guest48203> mgolisch,  has that worked for you?
[03:41] <winsoff> I want to install ubuntu on a Macbook 2,1, but the bastard is giving me a goofy "CHOOSE BOOT OPTION" screen that does not let me input anything.  The EFI is apparently 32 bits, but the processor is 64 bits, so I want to put the 64-bit install on there. Is that okay?  How do I burn a disk to not have more than one boot option, so I can skip that screen?
[03:41] <mgolisch> Guest48203: no idea i dont use leafpad, but text files should be openable in any text editor
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !mac | winsoff
[03:42] <winsoff> Cool!
[03:42] <winsoff> Thanks, comrade.
[03:42] <Guest48203> it doesn't open the files properly, formating outputs all the words on one line with no spaces
[03:43] <ZcY> MIRC registration need to spend money?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !efi > winsoff read this also perhaps
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> ZcY: please only ubuntu questions here
[03:43] <ZcY> sorry
[03:44] <ZcY> I am a rookie
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ZcY
[03:45] <redlux> lotuspsychje thx very much will be sticking around must retain a greater amount of knowledge
[03:45] <Spider> does anyone know how to get tightvncserver to start on boot?
[03:45] <redlux> have a philosophy read on UNIX that i'm just finishing
[03:45] <Spider> and will that let me see the login screen?
[03:45] <cage_raphel> hello!! i am getting the following error msg when i run sudo apt-get upgrade .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227227/
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Spider: i wouldnt reccomend vnc mate, very dangerous for use
[03:46] <Spider> lotuspsychje, why not?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: have you installed programs with ppa's of any kind?
[03:46] <Lurchy> redlux...splashtop is a good alternative
[03:46] <ZcY> Is there a discussion about the application experience of the Ubuntu system on the mobile phone？
[03:46] <redlux> next is on to UNIX for dummies i feel like then i'll learn the required  technicals
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !touch | ZcY
[03:47] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, i dont think so mate.. i am not sure though. is there a way to check ?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: yes in your sources
[03:47] <Lurchy> err spider
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !sources | cage_raphel
[03:47] <ZcY> thanks
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> redlux: please only use this channel for main ubuntu questions
[03:48] <Spider> i know its unencrypted and all but is it that big of a deal?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Spider: vnc is the most exploited software on earth, keep away from it :p
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Spider: openssh to the rescue
[03:49] <Spider> lotuspsychje, can i use x with openssh?
[03:49] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, under system settings, software and updates, all the four options are checked. is that what you mean ?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Spider: i think the #openssh guys can help with X yes
[03:49] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: What results ' sudo apt ipdate ; sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ?
[03:50] <Spider> lotuspsychje, cool thanks
[03:50] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I have a puzzler for you guys. I have a Compaq Presario SR1000 that I am attempting to use the SATA ports on with Lubuntu, but it cannot see the attached drives. Any ideas on what chipset/driver I would need?
[03:50] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: sudo apt update **
[03:51] <OneM_Industries> Link to the specs: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq-presario-sr1000/specs/
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: lubuntu doesnt see the hd in partitioning setup?
[03:52] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, have you played around with the sata settings in the bios?
[03:52] <mgolisch> is the port enabled at all?
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> No, it does not see the HDD.
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> I think so, let me check..
[03:53] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, this is the output.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227276/
[03:53] <Spider> lotuspsychje, so you wouldnt even use it for home media server use?
[03:53] <Spider> vnc?
[03:53] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, I've spent ages figuring out why a drive won't appear only to find it's not even in the bios and the sata port has crapped out on me.
[03:53] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Spider: take the advise mate, never use vnc
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> Spider: if a machine is connected the the internet and runs vnc on it, youl get hacked in few hours
[03:55] <Spider> hacked how exactly?
[03:55] <redlux> looks damn scary  boys
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !language | redlux only ubuntu questions please
[03:55] <Lurchy> Spider...VNC is not very secure
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Spider: lets not discuss that here ok, find other ways openssh,..
[03:57] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Looks like there is a conflict with " /usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service " .. lemme see what I can learn .
[03:57] <Spider> Lurchy, could you possibly explain why?
[03:57] <OneM_Industries> Bother. The BIOS is not seeing the SATA drive. Shoot.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Spider: always be carefull with remote viewing software, best to see the security part right away
[03:57] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, thank u mate
[03:57] <basttrax> OneM_Industries, :/
[03:57] <OneM_Industries> :/ indeed.
[03:57] <mgolisch> OneM_Industries: but you enabled the port?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Spider: because malicious users scan the whole net for 24/7 remote software to take over your pc
[03:58] <OneM_Industries> I can't even find the option to enable the thing.
[03:58] <Spider> port scanning is nothing new
[03:58] <Spider> masscan anyone?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Spider: if you gonna run 24/7 services of any kind, inform yourself on the security part also
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Spider: now lets focus on the ubuntu support please
[03:59] <Spider> i am using ubuntu for all of this
[04:00] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Looks to me you have to make a choice . see: ' apt-cache show kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' . Is this not the same function as " google-im.service " ??
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: can you tell us if you replaced the hd, what are you trying to do?
[04:01] <Spider> i just want to have remote access to my media server and be able to do it graphically
[04:01] <OneM_Industries> I was trying to get this thing up and running with LUbuntu for Grandma, but it looks like that is a no go.
[04:01] <Spider> and be as secure as possible
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: did you place a new sata hd inside?
[04:02] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, mate.. i have no clue what u r talking about.. i am a rookie.. sorry .. i am just learning bro.. could u pls break that down for m ?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> Spider: again mate, GUI remote viewers have to be cared off with caution
[04:03] <OneM_Industries> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: what kind of hd did you place in it?
[04:03] <OneM_Industries> A 80GB Hitachi SATA drive.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: did you see bios option IDE to AHCI?
[04:04] <OneM_Industries> No.
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: could you doublecheck please
[04:04] <Spider> OneM_Industries, did you format the drives before you installed them?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: also check if your new hd shows up in the bios
[04:05] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, do u mean i need to remove google-im.service ?
[04:05] <OneM_Industries> I doublechecked, no AHCI, and it is not showing up in the bios.
[04:05] <OneM_Industries> Also, this is a known good drive.
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: if bios doesnt show, lubuntu can see it neither
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> cant
[04:06] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: You have a internet messaging application already installed " google-im.service ' that I "think" os in direct conflict with " kde-config-telepathy-accounts " . I do suggest that you choose the one you want to use and remove the other (??) . What now returns ' apt-cache policy kde-config-telepathy-accounts ; apt-cache policy google-im.service ' ?
[04:06] <OneM_Industries> Yeah. I am trying to figure out how to get the BIOS to see the HDD.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: talk to the ##hardware guys, why
[04:06] <OneM_Industries> What?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> OneM_Industries: this is a hardware question mate, ask in ##hardware please
[04:07] <OneM_Industries> I am.
[04:08] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227371/
[04:11] <mgolisch> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=google-im.service&mode=exactfilename&suite=wily&arch=any
[04:12] <mgolisch> this shows that this file is contained in those two packages
[04:12] <mgolisch> you can install only one of them
[04:14] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sorry, the Google package is " account-plugin-google " . What returns ' apt-cache policy account-plugin-google ' ?
[04:15] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, krishnaroona@krishnaroona:~$ sudo apt-cache policy account-plugin-google
[04:15] <cage_raphel> account-plugin-google:
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Installed: 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Candidate: 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1
[04:15] <cage_raphel>   Version table:
[04:15] <cage_raphel>  *** 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1 0
[04:17] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, this is the output  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227426/
[04:19] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Good deal . The package manager can remove either app . I do believe that you have to choose the one you want to use, and remove the other .
[04:19] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i am not sure what they are.. so can i simply remove both? will that be safe ?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sure .. do apt-cache show <package) for " account-plugin-google " you see it's priority is "optional" .. one can safely remove them .
[04:23] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, yes.. priority says optional.. how do i remove them ?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: ' sudo apt remove account-plugin-google kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[04:26] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227472/
[04:29] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Mabe best rething this . see the outpur from ' apt-cache show  kde-telepathy ' . Maybe you really do not want this app removed ?
[04:30] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, if its safe to remove it .. i am happy to get it removed.
[04:31] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, the priority of that output does say its optional.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227491/
[04:33] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: yes .. it is safe to remove . but see what it is on the description fiels . Do you want to loose this  means to connect
[04:33] <Bashing-om>  to several instant messaging networks, chat with your friends and
[04:33] <Bashing-om>  collaborate with them.
[04:34] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i dont use any apps in ubuntu to connect to instant msg apps like google talk or facebook chat.. the only IM i use is Xchat to connect to the ubuntu channel.
[04:35] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, will i still be able to use Xchat to connect to the Ubuntu channel if we remove kde-telepathy ?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Yeah is all good . I am a propenent of - if you do not use it, remove it from the system - do ' sudo apt remove  means to connect
[04:38] <Bashing-om>  to several instant messaging networks, chat with your friends and
[04:38] <Bashing-om>  collaborate with them.
[04:38] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: bad bad paste !
[04:39] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: do ' sudo apt remove kde-telepathy ' .
[04:40] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i am unable to run that command.. this is the output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227529/
[04:42] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: K; Try ' sudo apt remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' . then see if we can remove it .
[04:42] <owen1> is 15.10 considered stable?
[04:43] <owen1> i am thinking of upgrading my home server
[04:43] <Spider> i am using 15.10 on mine and it seems ok
[04:43] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, that doesnt work either .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227544/
[04:44] <owen1> Spider: sweet. is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 using the command line?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> owen1: server use is preferable LTS
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> owen1: also better not mix LTS with non-lts upgrades, use clean install instead
[04:45] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sheeshh ... ok how about ' sudo apt remove kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[04:45] <owen1> lotuspsychje: LTS is 14.04?
[04:45] <mgolisch> yes
[04:45] <owen1> i can't use it since i need to use letsencrypt
[04:45] <mgolisch> why?
[04:46] <mgolisch> iam sure you can
[04:46] <owen1> letencrypt doesn't work with the old python version
[04:46] <owen1> that comes with 14.04
[04:46] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, same error again http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227556/
[04:46] <Spider> why not just update python?
[04:47] <mgolisch> owen1: there was instructions on how to do it and others there said it works that way
[04:47] <owen1> Spider: i have both python 3 and 2.7 but my bash script is using 2.7 and i can't update the script. it's too complex and risky
[04:47] <mgolisch> you must be doing something wrong
[04:47] <owen1> i am ok to try update-alternatives
[04:47] <owen1> and switch to python3
[04:48] <mgolisch> that doesnt help, letsenctypt doesnt support python3
[04:48] <owen1> oh no
[04:48] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Ouch, round robin -- as a round and round we go . Let's take the package manager's advise and see what results ' sudo apt-get -f install ' . maybe get a hint on what the hold is .
[04:48] <mgolisch> if you wait some minutes ill spin up a vm and try the suggestions from that forum posts and see if i can get it to work
[04:49] <owen1> mgolisch: that would be amazing
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> owen1: its also not very reccomended to use higher/lower package versions, use the ones designed for 14.04
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | owen1
[04:50] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, error again .. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227571/
[04:50] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, sorry for being such a pain in the ass mate.. but i really appreciate u helping me get this sorted.
[04:52] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: No need to be sorry . This is what we do - try and help . OK let's do this from a different approach ' sudo apt remove account-plugin-google ' .
[04:54] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, output is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227588/ :(
[04:55] <Guest30423> need help recovering files with live cd
[04:56] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: 'sudo apt remove unity-scope-gdrive ' .. maybe now ?
[04:57] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, same error bro.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227604/
[04:58] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, pls follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[04:59] <Guest30423> cage  Tnx I'll try that
[04:59] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Have we done ' sudo apt remove kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ... or is this where we started ?
[04:59] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, no worries mate!
[05:00] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i think thats where we started.. i ran the command again, and i get the same error
[05:01] <Spider> is it common for people to use the server edition with a desktop environment or do most people operate their severs via shell?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Yikes ! I hate to say it, but I am stuck . Do not know how to move forward, and we can not go back ! .
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Spider: server is mostly meant to have no GUI
[05:03] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, awwww!! thats alright bro.. but i have a feeling that there are broken packages in my system.. do u know how to remove the broken packages?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Spider: but some servers install lightweight X stuff also
[05:03] <TheRelic> is it possible to AUTO Yes on a apt-get upgrade & apt-get install ?
[05:04] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, hope this helps.. http://superuser.com/questions/164553/automatically-answer-yes-when-using-apt-get-install
[05:05] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: We already know where the problem is . - apt-get -f install - tells us . maybe we can get some additional info ' sudo dpkg -C ' .
[05:05] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, i have already run autoremove and autoclean.. but they dont seem to remove the broken packages
[05:06] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227656/
[05:06] <Guest30423> using live cd I can see file folders but I do not have permission to open them
[05:07] <TheRelic> ty cage_raphel
[05:07] <cage_raphel> Guest30423, hope this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550811
[05:07] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, welcome mate!
[05:08] <mgolisch> owen1: the last instruction in thet post seem to work for me
[05:08] <owen1> mgolisch: oh. let me try again. do u run it as sudo?
[05:08] <idaem> 有人懂中文吗？
[05:09] <TheRelic> cage_raphel: i have 18 dirs, that all hold a src/leveldb/filename can i use chmod +x ~/*/src/leveldb/filename and it chmod all files in home dir sub dir * src/leveldb/name?
[05:09] <owen1> mgolisch: can u send the exact post, just to make sure we are talking about the same ones
[05:09] <mgolisch> owen1: no it does that on its own for everything it needs root access for
[05:09] <TheRelic> (this is root level)
[05:09] <mgolisch> owen1: yeah ill paste a patch file
[05:09] <owen1> mgolisch: thanks1
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> !jp | idaem
[05:09] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, you can give that a try
[05:10] <TheRelic> cage_raphel: im a newb and i am writing a sh script, do you deal in crypto?
[05:11] <idaem> when I change "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  "  into "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"  "
[05:11] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: OK .. what results ' sudo dpkg --configure kde-telepathy ' ?
[05:12] <idaem> then I typed startx to enter the system But the chrome can't play music in the internet
[05:14] <Bashing-om> idaem: in the terminal "text" envirom,emt the GUI is not started . chrome is a GUI app .
[05:15] <idaem> I have logged in tty1 and then I typed startx commend to enter the GUI
[05:15] <cage_raphel> TheRelic, no mate.. i dont deal with crypto
[05:15] <Bashing-om> idaem: "startx" has very limited applications in today's GUI's . What is the desktop that you would start ?
[05:16] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227711/
[05:16] <mgolisch> owen1:  wget https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mgolisch/74fced459d9a43a36948/raw/0f1568e04438b57a72b01a32d4f6d4c975ef6bc3/letsencrypt-auto.patch       in the letsencrypt dir , then run patch < letsencrypt-auto.patch
[05:17] <mgolisch> it shows no warnings anymore then for me
[05:17] <idaem> xfce4
[05:17] <idaem> I'm using the backbox in china.
[05:18] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: K ' sudo dpkg --configure kde-telepathy-minimal ' .
[05:20] <Bashing-om> idaem: What results 'startxfce4' ?
[05:20] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227731/
[05:20] <Guest48203> why doesn't ubuntu automatically create an encrypted partition for SWAP during installing process?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Humm .. how about ' sudo apt install kde-config-telepathy-accounts ' ??
[05:22] <idaem> sorry maybe I did not express clearly
[05:22] <smacktalk> I need to create a tap interface for a vbox vm
[05:22] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14227743/
[05:23] <idaem> When I finished editing the grub and type "grub-update"     I reboot my system
[05:24] <idaem> I logged in the text mode  which just in test mode like BT5 which I used before.
[05:24] <Guest48203> when installing ubuntu there is an option to automatically encrypt the drive, yet this is not possible because it warns that your swap is not encrypted so it aborts the whole process... fail
[05:24] <idaem> If I want to enter in the GUI, I should type the command "startx"
[05:28] <owen1> mgolisch: sweet! i'll try that
[05:28] <EriC^^> idaem: sudo service lightdm star
[05:28] <EriC^^> idaem: sudo service lightdm start
[05:28] <gns3> hello
[05:29] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, any luck bro ?
[05:29] <gns3> what are you talking about?
[05:30] <idaem> Thank you , I will try it
[05:31] <idaem> another , how did you reply to others with their ID?
[05:32] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Nope .. I am stuck . You have cleaned out the cache and still with the round robin . Presently do not know what else to do .
[05:32] <owen1> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14227786/
[05:32] <cage_raphel> Bashing-om, hmmm ok bro.. thank you so much for your help though !! :)
[05:34] <Bashing-om> cage_raphel: Sorry, no help as we are no further in fixing the problem .
[05:36] <Nightelf_> why does my ubuntu performance keep getting low by time until rebooting?
[05:37] <Nightelf_> even after closing all applications
[05:39] <mgolisch> owen1: you might need to delete ~./local/share/letsencrypt , if you ran the script before applying that patch
[05:39] <owen1> mgolisch: ok
[05:40] <mgolisch> i mean ~/.local/share/letsencrypt
[05:43] <owen1> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14227836/
[05:45] <mgolisch> odd, it shows no error for me :(
[05:45] <mgolisch> or warning rather
[05:49] <mgolisch> owen1: does that warning actualy prevent your from requesting a certificate?
[05:50] <owen1> mgolisch: yeah. the script aborts
[05:56] <mgolisch> o i think i messed up the patch
[05:59] <mgolisch> owen1: do git reset --hard and use that patch instead https://gist.githubusercontent.com/mgolisch/3103fbf5f558fbba0062/raw/5ae444092d62c68bc4c321ff83532302d75575cd/letsencrypt-auto.patch
[05:59] <owen1> ok. 1 sec
[06:03] <owen1> mgolisch: works! so it was the verbose flag?
[06:04] <mgolisch> i ran it with that, i guess thats what made the difference but yeah that even works on my 12.04 server
[06:04] <mgolisch> just requested a cert a minute ago
[06:05] <owen1> cool. thanks a lot
[06:06] <owen1> i told the people on #letsencrypt
[06:55] <xintox> how do i change the timezone on ubuntu server 15.10?
[07:02] <ozcanesen> how can i disable lightdm complately? echo “manual” >> /etc/init/lightdm.override trick did not worked for 15.04
[07:05] <ozcanesen> changing grub defaults “quiet splash” to “text” did not work either
[07:12] <xintox> does anyone have gamecenter live?
[07:13] <xintox> do you know if it includes playoffs and no blackouts if you use vpn?
[07:14] <ubuntu> will
[07:14] <wewgas> HEY FAGGOTS
[07:14] <sunjiang> ...
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | wewgas
[07:15] <Guest27274> I'm trying to recover files from a bad ubuntu 14.04 disk by using a live dvd boot.
[07:17] <calcmandan> fresh new toshiba sattelite laptop, installed ubuntu on first boot by way of live flash
[07:17] <Guest27274> I can access the bad disk and see the directory graphically but i don't have permission to access my user folder. Any ideas?t he dont hav
[07:17] <calcmandan> after install, i rebooted and the system says no OS installed. I launched live disc again and there's a proper directory structure. i'm assuming grub didn't install.
[07:18] <calcmandan> looking for guidance to confirm whether grub was properly installed or not.
[07:20] <EriC^^> calcmandan: open a terminal and type sudo parted -l | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:22] <calcmandan> roger that. wait one
[07:23] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/5z57/
[07:24] <EriC^^> calcmandan: ok, ubuntu is installed in uefi mode
[07:24] <EriC^^> you probably have a stubborn bios
[07:25] <calcmandan> EriC^^: it prompted me about uefi.
[07:25] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:26] <calcmandan> ok drive is mounted
[07:26] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[07:26] <EriC^^> then type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:27] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/04p3/
[07:28] <EriC^^> calcmandan: ok, type ls -lR /mnt | nc openterm.tk 9
[07:31] <calcmandan> EriC^^: http://openterm.tk/r90m
[07:32] <EriC^^> calcmandan: is secureboot enabled?
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: i didn't see that option in bios.
[07:33] <EriC^^> ok
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: would it be default on these new laptops?
[07:33] <EriC^^> calcmandan: yeah, it's ok though
[07:33] <calcmandan> EriC^^: i didn't look that hard though.
[07:34] <calcmandan> EriC^^: the last laptop i bought was system76 and had no eufi worries
[07:34] <EriC^^> calcmandan: type sudo mkdir /mnt/EFI/Boot
[07:34] <calcmandan> done
[07:35] <EriC^^> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[07:35] <calcmandan> forgot the sudo
[07:35] <calcmandan> done
[07:35] <EriC^^> ok
[07:35] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[07:36] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[07:36] <calcmandan> ok
[07:36] <EriC^^> sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[07:37] <calcmandan> done
[07:40] <EriC^^> calcmandan: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[07:40] <EriC^^> calcmandan: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi -L "windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[07:41] <calcmandan> i got some output.going to pastebin it. wait one
[07:42] <calcmandan> http://pastebin.com/G3LwDkAR
[07:48] <EriC^^> calcmandan: looks good
[07:48] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[07:48] <calcmandan> fingers crossed. if this works, i'm in your debt.
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[08:01] <axsuul> I think my server has been hacked, using nethogs, i've been seeing all these outgoing requests being made. How can I trace what's making those requests? Here's the screenshot of what I'm seeing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/hs7ano41gdv5007/2015-12-26%20at%2011.59%20PM%202x.png?dl=0
[08:04] <hypermist> I am having trouble figuring out if. ubuntu 14.04 has php7
[08:04] <hypermist> or only 5 ?
[08:07] <mgolisch> was php7 released in april 2014?
[08:09] <rww> (It came out this month.)
[08:09] <hypermist> So no package around for it yet rww ?
[08:10] <rww> Ubuntu backports security fixes and such after release. With very few exceptions, new major versions aren't put into existing releases.
[08:11] <hypermist> Damnit i needed php7 too haha ohwell guess imma have to deal with php5
[08:16] <SoLux> Hello.
[08:16] <xtnt> Hi.
[08:17] <SoLux> What are the rules in here?
[08:18] <rww> the ones the bot PMed you when you joined
[08:18] <rww> !guidelines
[08:19] <SoLux> Alright, thanks. :)
[08:40] <slkjnax> Hi all.
[08:40] <slkjnax> I am unable to install any package after I installed skype on my 64bit ubuntu
[08:40] <slkjnax> here are the errors that I get when I try to do so
[08:40] <slkjnax> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a2138edce24b0eaa7484
[08:46] <rww> which version of Ubuntu?
[08:46] <slkjnax> 12.04, rww
[08:47] <rww> pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libqt4-webkit
[08:48] <slkjnax> rww: okay
[08:49] <slkjnax> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/1494808be633
[08:51] <wlinux> ?
[08:51] <wlinux> anyone else?
[08:52] <leamon> I need to set home network in ubuntu 15.04 like it seems in windows.
[08:52] <wlinux> how to use....
[08:52] <leamon> Is there any way to do it?
[08:53] <slkjnax> rww: any idea how to resolve this issue?
[08:53] <wlinux> I can't use it
[08:54] <wlinux> why nobody tell...
[08:55] <rww> slkjnax: what's the output of sudo dpkg --print-architecture
[08:55] <TheRelic> i am trying to write a s h script, how would i add a user (adduser name) via sh script that will auto generate a unknown random pw unattended?
[08:56] <slkjnax> rww: amd64
[08:56] <rww> yeah, there's the issue. it's trying to install i386 dependencies but you don't have any i386 repositories
[08:57] <leamon> I'm sorry.
[08:57] <rww> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:57] <slkjnax> rww: okay, so how do I set it back to amd64 package?
[08:57] <wlinux> what are you talking about?
[08:57] <rww> assuming there is no amd64 skype package (which I have no idea about, since I don't use it)
[08:57] <rww> wlinux: How to use what?
[08:57] <slkjnax> rww:  there is none
[08:58] <slkjnax> rww: wlinux  is probably trolling
[08:58] <wlinux> i can't speak english well...
[08:58] <rww> slkjnax: okies. enable multiarch with the above commands and see if that helps, then. if not, pastebin the new output of the -f install
[08:58] <slkjnax> rww: okay it will take some time, on slow internet
[08:59] <rww> wlinux: You're in #ubuntu, which is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux in English. If you need help with Ubuntu in another language, let me know which, there may be another channel to use. For general chatter, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:00] <wlinux> thanks
[09:00] <slkjnax> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/3701da0058ec
[09:00] <rww> still? hrm.
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww:  yes :(
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww: wait, there were some warning for first command in that row
[09:01] <slkjnax> rww:  dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[09:02] <rww> ugh, i wonder if 12.04 is too old for multiarch
[09:02]  * rww looks
[09:05] <slkjnax> rww: there is --assert-multi-arch option
[09:05] <agnuhssi> Pretty cool that your brand has its own soda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola
[09:05] <rww> yeah, just found something online that rings a bell from three years ago...
[09:06] <rww> slkjnax: ls /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/, is "multiarch" the only file in there?
[09:06] <rww> if so, what are its contents (cat /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch)
[09:07] <slkjnax> rww:  yeah
[09:07] <nname31> hello
[09:07] <nname31> how can  add models (bjt npn and pnp) in ngspice?
[09:08] <rww> slkjnax: is there anything in it? I don't have a 12.04 VM handy to check
[09:11] <sljnax_> hey rww  sorry I got dc
[09:11] <sljnax_> content is foreign-architecture i386
[09:14] <sljnax_> rww: should I change the content of that file to something else?
[09:14] <rww> oh, duh, apt-cache defaults to only showing the non-foreign architecture of packages. grr.
[09:15] <rww> sljnax_: output of apt-cache policy libqt4-webkit:i386
[09:16] <sljnax_> rww: https://bpaste.net/show/6f46ae757478
[09:16] <rww> sljnax_: output of sudo apt-get install libqt4-webkit:i386
[09:16] <rww> might need a -f there, i forget
[09:17] <sljnax_> rww:  https://bpaste.net/show/741f9e066260
[09:17] <sljnax_> same o/p
[09:17] <dumbo_000> Hello!!! please i really need some help with my new asus x554la - XO1236D , running Freedos 1.0.5 , Freecom version 0.84-pre XMS_Swap, I can't boot from CD to install ubuntu!!! (even after changed boot settings in Bios) Please help I am desperate
[09:17] <sljnax_> dumbo_000:  tried with usb stick?
[09:19] <dumbo_000> I would really like to boot from cd i burnt it and i don't like to waste money on cds without using them and i am too lazy too to make an usb stick
[09:20] <dumbo_000> (lol?)
[09:21] <dumbo_000> can someone help me please? I am a good boy and only want to install my ubuntu from cd..oh come on......
[09:23] <sljnax_> rww: is there a way I can undo adding skype and get back to normal settings as before?
[09:24] <rww> sljnax_: I think sudo dpkg -r skype:i386
[09:24] <rww> and then do apt-get -f install again to make sure it worked
[09:24] <sljnax_> well it did the trick :P
[09:24] <sljnax_> installing texlive now
[09:25] <rww> alrighty. want to carry on poking at skype, or going to leave it for now?
[09:30] <sjlnax_> rww got dc again :(
[09:30] <sjlnax_> for now I am going to keep it as is
[09:30] <sjlnax_> rww I would want to install it later though
[09:31] <sjlnax_> 1% [1 pgf 2,033 kB/5,668 kB 36%]                                                                                8,879 B/s 5h 22min 47s
[09:31] <sjlnax_> right now this is the status of speed
[09:31] <sjlnax_> :P
[09:31] <sjlnax_> rww where ubuntu keeps the Skype . files?
[09:31] <sjlnax_> my autosaved settings etc?
[09:32] <rww> I think it's just /home/username/.Skype
[09:33] <sjlnax_> hmm, nothing there
[09:33] <rww> did you have an old version installed or something?
[09:33] <sjlnax_> rww: yes
[09:33] <sjlnax_> I did
[09:34] <sjlnax_> maybe I shreaded that folder
[09:34] <sjlnax_> I forgot the command to shred now :(
[09:34] <sjlnax_> find .Skype -type file | shred -u -v?
[09:35] <sjlnax_> yeah find .Skype -type f | shred -u -v
[09:38] <sjlnax_> thanks rww
[09:38] <sjlnax_> gotta go now
[09:52] <hiexpo> merry xmas
[10:03] <satrah> Hello all :)
[10:04] <satrah> new to irc is there sound function on xchat
[10:06] <satrah> found it
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> Hi there
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> I need some help
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> how can I make XBOXDRV allways start with this line? sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad
[10:25] <satrah> hi Sergio... can it be done using a shell script
[10:25] <satrah> I'm still a bit new to linux, but it's my best answer
[10:27] <SergioEDuran1> satrah, I see
[10:29] <SergioEDuran1> the fact is that I need the --mimic-xpad because I have Guacamelee gold edition and I love play it with my XBOX 360 gamepad
[10:29] <rigo2341> hi. what if i install ubuntu from an usb stick to a freshly wiped clean hdd and it will not boot up? what to do please?
[10:31] <slidinghorn> SergioEDuran1: you're starting it from command line anyway, right?  Just create a bash alias:  use     nano ~/.bash_aliases        and add the line      alias xboxdrv="sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad"         save, then run       /bin/bash          and your command will work next time you use it
[10:32] <slidinghorn> !nomodeset | rigo2341
[10:33] <rigo2341> its not a blank screen, its like there would be no hdd at all so it goes right to the next boot option which is pxe
[10:33] <slidinghorn> rigo2341: without much more detail as to what happens when you attempt to boot, that's the best I can provide.  Any errors etc?
[10:33] <SergioEDuran1> slidinghorn, tank you
[10:33] <SergioEDuran1> thank you*
[10:33] <dumbo_000> hey can someone use freedos? i got problems on booting from cd from there i got an asus X554L - XO1236D
[10:34] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, this is ubuntu support, not freedos
[10:34] <dumbo_000> the problem is that without being able to use dvd drive in there i can't install ubuntu lol, please understand.
[10:34] <SergioEDuran1> slidinghorn, let me try
[10:35] <dumbo_000> freedos irc channel is a bit quiet right now
[10:35] <SergioEDuran1> first I will reboot with not it
[10:35] <kubuntu> Hei.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, still completely off-topic here.
[10:36] <rigo2341> no errors. so. i wiped the hdd completely. created a gpt - msdos - partition table, rebooted from usb stick installed the system totally automatically. rebooted again and no error message, just as if there would be no system on the hdd. so the boot sequence is just ignoring it.
[10:38] <slidinghorn> rigo2341: have you tried updating grub in a live environment to make sure it's recognizing the new OS?
[10:38] <Guest22061> Noen som vet om en bra ok maskin som tar 3 skjermer til ubuntu til en billigst mulig penge. ingen spilling elle store operasjoner.
[10:38] <rigo2341> the hdd is there. it is errorfree. the system is installed. the hdd is partitioned to 3. the efi partition has the boot and esp flag.
[10:39] <kostkon> !no | Guest22061
[10:39] <rigo2341> with grub-install --root-directory stuff? yes.
[10:40] <dumbo_000> cfhowlett i am sorry for that, can you suggest me some way to solve my problem if i can't ask for help in a wise and respected channel like that?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, www.freedos.org lists 3 social network channels. ask there
[10:41] <dumbo_000> i really need to solve that problem as soon as possible and i dunno where to ask for a question like that..freedos channel is quiet at the moment
[10:41] <satrah> hi agian test colour change
[10:42] <dumbo_000> thank you,btw-- have a nice day.
[10:44] <nname31> hello
[10:44] <nname31> how can add bjt models (pnp, npn) in ngspice?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> nname31, ask the ngspice channel
[10:51] <rigo2341> im not sure if i want linux. if it is impossible to install on a factory-clean hdd with the fully automatic method.
[10:53] <bekks> rigo2341: What happens instead?
[10:54] <rigo2341> i boot up and like the hdd would be empty.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> rigo2341, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[10:54] <bekks> Boot up from what?
[10:55] <bekks> cd or usb thumb drive?
[10:55] <rigo2341> bekks:  usb
[10:55] <rigo2341> i dont have a cd drive
[11:04] <sunwind> hey guys, when I run software center from the apps menu I get these errors when trying to install or uninstall anything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229122/
[11:04] <sunwind> but if I sudo software-center in a console it works fine
[11:05] <sunwind> I can't figure out how to sort it so I don't have to do that though
[11:05] <cfhowlett> sunwind, what did you try to instll
[11:05] <sunwind> vlc
[11:05] <sunwind> among other things
[11:05] <sunwind> it doesn't matter what
[11:05] <cfhowlett> sunwind, try  the terminal: sudo apt install vlc
[11:06] <sunwind> yeah I know I could just do it like that but that's not really solving the problem :B
[11:08] <Ghost_r00t> hello guys. what should i do to just update gcc and related already installed gcc compiler on my system
[11:09] <vaishu> sunwind: which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:09] <sunwind> wily
[11:10] <bekks> Ghost_r00t: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dis-upgrade
[11:10] <bekks> Ghost_r00t: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <vaishu> sunwind: See if PolicyKit Authentication Agent is checked or unchecked in Startup Programs.
[11:12] <vaishu> sunwind: Check it if it is unchecked there
[11:12] <sunwind> it is checked
[11:13] <vaishu> sunwind: Ah, then may be you can try reinstalling ubuntu software center
[11:13] <sunwind> I tried that already a couple times :(
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  can you start any other gui program with password?
[11:13] <sunwind> and lots of googling the issue
[11:13] <sunwind> everything else seems to run fine without complaining about permissions
[11:14] <vaishu> sunwind: Oh :(
[11:14] <vaishu> Are you able to do this as a root?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  run the software center from terminal, to see errors
[11:15] <sunwind> ok
[11:17] <sunwind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229205/
[11:17] <sunwind> ran it and installed nestopia and that was the entire console
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  what's the ouput of  cat /etc/issue
[11:19] <sunwind> could you tell me how I can read that?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  in a terminal
[11:20] <sunwind> ok yeah but I mean, I have no idea how to use the terminal other than sudo and apt-get
[11:20] <sunwind> I'm a newb at this
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  simply type   cat /etc/issue    then hit enter
[11:21] <sunwind> oh.
[11:21] <olf-folks> sunwind: try   setterm -forground red
[11:21] <olf-folks> sunwind: it will make you look way cool
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | olf-folks
[11:22] <sunwind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14229241/ that's all
[11:26] <olf-folks> sunwind: is that the dev version? why not use the stable version?
[11:26] <bekks> olf-folks: there is no such things as "the dev version".
[11:26] <sunwind> I don't know, I am using it via crouton on my chromebook and wily was just one of the install options
[11:26] <ikonia> 15.10 is not dev
[11:27] <bekks> olf-folks: 15,10 is a stable release, published in October 2015.
[11:27] <sunwind> https://ricochet.im/releases/1.1.1/ which of these will ubuntu be able to install? (if any)
[11:27] <ikonia> there we go - crouton
[11:28] <olf-folks> wow i was un-awares ill upgrade bekks
[11:29] <bekks> olf-folks: Which version are you running?
[11:30] <ikonia> that is not a supported ubuntu product it's a hack
[11:30] <ikonia> the crouton guys can support you - we cannot
[11:30] <olf-folks> hardy heron bekks
[11:30] <bekks> !hardy | olf-folks
[11:31] <sunwind> oh
[11:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade | ubottu
[11:31] <sunwind> I thought crouton was just something that enabled it to run and didn't really affect anything to do with it
[11:31] <bekks> !eolupgrade > olf-folks
[11:31] <ikonia> ttake this to the crouton guys please
[11:33] <sunwind> alright well thanks for trying to help guys
[11:34] <sam_> hi
[11:34] <sunwind> although maybe you could answer this: https://ricochet.im/releases/1.1.1/ which of these will ubuntu be able to install? (if any)
[11:34] <ikonia> this is not ubunt
[11:35] <sunwind> oh ok. the download link just said 'linux' and lead there
[11:35] <sunwind> so it won't run on ubuntu?
[11:35] <bekks> sunwind: You have to build it on your own.
[11:35] <sunwind> ah ok
[11:37] <olf-folks> sunwind: don't give up sometimes it is as easy as un-zip and a few commands to compile something.
[11:37] <ikonia> that is nonsense
[11:37] <sunwind> lol
[11:37] <sunwind> I've compiled things like 10 years ago but any memory of how to do that stuff is gone
[11:37] <ikonia> sunwind: cruton is not an official ubuntu product - it's a hack to put part of ubuntu's userland on chrome OS
[11:38] <sunwind> cygwin! I used that. that's all I recall.
[11:38] <sunwind> I see
[11:38] <ikonia> sunwind: if you need help the crouton guys are your support resource, not here, as you are not running ubuntu
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> sunwind  you're in the wrong channel, that's why we couldnt help you
[11:38] <sunwind> does crouton really make that much difference to how it works?
[11:38] <ikonia> yes
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sunwind, yes
[11:39] <ikonia> because its not an ubuntu install
[11:39] <sunwind> I see
[11:39] <ikonia> t's just some userland productus ontop of chrome
[11:39] <sunwind> I thought it was just some kind of 'bootloader' thing, like I said, new to this stuff
[11:39] <cfhowlett> sunwind, and again(!), you are not using ubuntu so you in the *wrong channel*.
[11:39] <sunwind> wow chill out dude
[11:39] <sunwind> there's 1700 people in here I can't even idle?
[11:39] <olf-folks> but, you could hack your cromebook and put ubuntu on it :)
[11:39] <olf-folks> sunwind: ^
[11:40] <ikonia> sunwind: you're welcome to idle, but we won't support your install
[11:40] <kernelPanic> hi all, please Help!! :) i got kernel panic and i am too: http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:40] <sunwind> yeah I get that, no worries
[11:42] <kernelPanic> Any one can point me in the right direction?
[11:43] <kernelPanic> Bump http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:45] <MOXHO> можно по русски
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !ru | MOXHO
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:45] <MOXHO> MonkeyDust, Спасибо!
[11:47] <kernelPanic> anyone can you please help me? http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !patience | kernelPanic
[11:48] <locksmith> Hello, can someone tell me what is the correct way of doing this? I want to run a command, but it shouldn't have access to internet?
[11:48] <kernelPanic> Sorry.
[11:48] <locksmith> I was thinking AppArmor or the "network domain" feature?
[11:48] <locksmith> network namespace I mean
[11:48] <locksmith> How would I say that "this process can only access this network" ?
[11:49] <locksmith> or like say "this process can not access this network/interface" ?
[11:49] <kernelPanic> I have searched all over, and now is my 5th hour trying to get the right cause... cfhowlett ubottu :-)
[11:49] <olf-folks> in ubuntu is there a way to play dos games on ubuntu without installing xorg?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> kernelPanic, understood.  still gotta be patient.  I didn't offer answer cause I don't have kernel panic knowledge ... nor can I see your paste here in China.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> olf-folks  with dosbox
[11:50] <OpenSorce> kernelPanic, have you tried removing all USB devices?
[11:50] <locksmith> Yeah, how do I limit a process to a certain interface?
[11:50] <olf-folks> MonkeyDust: can dosbox run without xorg?
[11:50] <locksmith> network interface *
[11:51] <OpenSorce> locksmith, you could define such restrictions in a firewall
[11:51] <locksmith> so ip tables?
[11:51] <kernelPanic> yes, nothing is connected other then Network and power. i plugged in the monitor to see why it is down... OpenSorce
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> kernelPanic  here in the channel, type   /msg alis list kernel
[11:51] <locksmith> OpenSorce: ip tables, and run it as a certain user/group ?
[11:51] <locksmith> OpenSorce: that's the 3rd way I think
[11:52] <locksmith> AppArmor can't do this I think
[11:52] <locksmith> right?
[11:52] <locksmith> so the 'unshare' program
[11:53] <OpenSorce> kernelPanic, hmm... looks like a bad reaction to some hardware. Do you have a sound or video card slotted on that machine?
[11:54] <kernelPanic> built in, its a 12 or 13 years old machine, it was working for many years... OpenSorce .
[11:55] <cfhowlett> kernelPanic, you're running ubuntu  on that box?/
[11:55] <kernelPanic> OpenSorce Basic P4 2.8 GH with 1.5 GB Ram.
[11:55] <kernelPanic> cfhowlett Yes, running Ubuntu-server
[11:55] <OpenSorce> locksmith, never used AppArmor. I did use something called "Trickle" once to achieve a similar goal.
[11:56] <OpenSorce> locksmith, http://www.tecmint.com/manage-and-limit-downloadupload-bandwidth-with-trickle-in-linux/
[11:58] <MOXHO> как переход от "UNity"?
[12:00] <DJones> !ru | MOXHO
[12:00] <OpenSorce> MOXHO, Я будет сообщение Вы частном
[12:00] <MOXHO> OpenSorce, Спасибо
[12:09] <BigBaby> Hey OpenSorce, this is KernelPanic here.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <raji> hi
[12:17] <Esxyz> why would someone use Ubuntu instead of just MINT?
[12:18] <BigBaby> btw, this is me http://pastebin.com/FyMr9Xv3
[12:20] <ikonia> BigBaby: what do you want us to do with that
[12:20] <ikonia> Esxyz: it's personal choice,
[12:20] <Esxyz> based on what
[12:20] <ikonia> support, desktop enviornments, products, release cycle, anything really
[12:21] <BigBaby> ikonia i am struggling with this about 5.5 hours. and i can really use your help.
[12:21] <ikonia> that information is useless
[12:21] <Esxyz> doesn't MINT have better support, better DE's configured out the box, and a better release cycle?
[12:21] <ikonia> it tells us nothing
[12:21] <ikonia> Esxyz: it's personal opinion
[12:21] <ikonia> make up your own mind
[12:21] <optimistic7> which is the best documentation for linux kernel?
[12:21] <ikonia> optimistic7: kernel.org
[12:22] <optimistic7> ok thnks :)
[12:22] <BigBaby> ikonia server was running, then it started doing this all of a sudden. getting Kernel Panic, and i really don't know how to solve this. looking for anyone who has an idea and can point me in the right direction.
[12:22] <ikonia> BigBaby: you'd need a lot more information than that
[12:23] <Esxyz> why does this review say this?
[12:23] <Esxyz> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/review-mint-17-3-may-be-the-best-linux-desktop-distro/
[12:23] <Esxyz> "Perhaps the most worrying thing about Mint is that it's based on Ubuntu, the future of which looks a lot less bright than it used to. There is of course Linux Mint Debian Edition, but it tends to lag well behind its Ubuntu-based brethren when it comes to updates and polish."
[12:23] <Esxyz> a lot less bright?
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: who cares
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: make up your own mind
[12:23] <BigBaby> ikonia What do you need, i will get it. this is my first time using IRC, so forgive my ignorance.
[12:23] <Esxyz> I am wondering what "happened" to Ubuntu
[12:23] <Esxyz> since I was away a few years
[12:23] <ikonia> Esxyz: nothing
[12:23] <BigBaby> ikonia i am a software engineer, but not really a deep kernel user.
[12:24] <ikonia> BigBaby: you'd need to capture the full dump, but I suspect you'll struggle with that,
[12:24] <Esxyz> my friend told me that ubuntu basically failed and didnt take off like it was supposed to, and I need to check Mint instead
[12:24] <ikonia> BigBaby: why not look at obvious things, eg: whats changed between it working/not working
[12:24] <Esxyz> a couple years back like something happened
[12:24] <ikonia> Esxyz: talk to your friend then
[12:25] <BigBaby> ikonia only thing i did in last ccouple months was updates, nothing changed on this server for almost 4 years.
[12:25] <Abe> I'm being paranoid! "netstat -a" shows an ip address "<IP_ADDRESS>" I looked for that ip and it turn out to be the Ministry of Defense. http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=79383343 but it's listed as a local address so I might read something wrong. does somebody has that ip popping up too in netstat -a. sorry guys sometimes I just turn paranoid
[12:25] <ikonia> BigBaby: have look at the syslog see if there are any obvious errors
[12:26] <ikonia> Abe: look at how / what it's connecting to
[12:26] <BigBaby> ikonia great, where can i find it? /var/log/????
[12:26] <ikonia> BigBaby: thats it
[12:26] <BigBaby> ikonia so /var/log/syslog ?
[12:26] <ikonia> BigBaby: that works, a nice idea is delete all your logs, reboot (if possible) and then look at the logs after it panics
[12:27] <ikonia> that will remove a lot of pointless noise
[12:27] <BigBaby> ikonia will do, i have a ubuntu live CD ready to boot and cleanup. i will get you a single boot log.
[12:28] <ikonia> don't want a boot log
[12:28] <BigBaby> ikonia, it will take me some time, as it is on a downstairs. i know about the boot, you mean syslog,
[12:28] <BigBaby> ikonia right?
[12:29] <ikonia> I don't want a log
[12:29] <ikonia> you need to review the logs
[12:29] <BigBaby> oh.
[12:29] <BigBaby> ikonia, thank you
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Abe, I'm in China and see no such questionable entry, but I still assume some degree of monitoring somewhere
[12:29] <BigBaby> ikonia i will review, and i hope i will understand the syslog.
[12:32] <Abe> ikonia: how do I check that? STATE says nothing idk what netbiosdgm means. "udp |0 |0 <IP_ADDRESS>:netbios-dgm *:*" like I said it shows at Local address not as Foreign Address
[12:33] <ikonia> what do you mean it shows as a local address ?
[12:33] <Abe> Im not that familiar with it so I might be completly wrong
[12:33] <Abe> let me take a screen. sorry it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[12:34] <cfhowlett> Abe, actually, you would be better served in #networking
[12:36] <Abe> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=51140887 ok all the way on top, it says Local Address, on foreign address nothing is listed. cfhowlett ok I will switch over there
[12:39] <dumbo_000> I know i better not write about that in here please can i ask something that is just about partitions and drives? i'm about to install ubuntu on my asus X554LA-XO1236D my only fault is that it has freedos 1.0.5 installed. didn't want to pay for a windows licence if i wanted to install linux.
[12:40] <livcd> can someone point me to 15.10 repos so i can check if it contains a specific version of pkg ?
[12:40] <DJones> livcd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:41] <dumbo_000> now, please..i don't know where to ask about it.. i made a fdisk to see drives it recognize 2 drives C: (default hard disk drive) D: (unaccessible drive but it says it's a fat32 partition)
[12:43] <dumbo_000> now my drives situation is : A and B drives: can't access both,but i suppose b drive should be for floppy disk (my laptop doesn't use it) , C: hard disk, D: says no label cannot access files E:freedos folder
[12:43] <dumbo_000> ok i have to boot from CD
[12:44] <dumbo_000> to install ubuntu. i changed settings in bios...to allow boot from cd, i select device but it doesn't allow me to boot from cd..it says the D: drive is a partition too...
[12:45] <dumbo_000> i spent hours and hours searching for a solution but i haven't found a good one yet...it doesn't recognize usb drive too, i got a cd with drivers but i cannot access it from freedos.
[12:45] <livcd> DJones: thx
[12:46] <locksmith> Is it just me or do programmers *hate* auto-updates or what?
[12:47] <dumbo_000> you can understand is a weird situation, it's off-topic everywhere so why not asking here. let me say sorry to them who does not agree with it.. i am desperate and need some help.
[12:47] <locksmith> As a programmer, I couldn't give less shit about security updates that affect either someone who is either a) really dumb and shouldn't be using linux in the first place or b) installed their os 5 years ago and really needs an update
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  calm down and explain what brings you here
[12:48] <dumbo_000> please help me change OS. :(
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  try both with a live dvd /usb, then decide what you like most
[12:50] <locksmith> seriously, who here is running a heavy SSH server and just needs the latest version of every lib
[12:50] <locksmith> I have like 6 ports open I could give less shit about outdated software
[12:50] <cfhowlett> locksmith, drop the profanity.  unnecessary and unwelcome
[12:50] <farooghkz> dumbo, say me ur problem.
[12:50] <farooghkz> im not sure but maybe i help u.
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  no such language here
[12:50] <dumbo_000> MonkeyDust, i cannot access usb or dvd that's my problem
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> locksmith  this is support, how can we help you
[12:51] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  how old is your pc?
[12:51] <dumbo_000> i cannot find out what's wrong and i wasting lot of time without an answer.
[12:51] <dumbo_000> it's a new pc
[12:52] <dumbo_000> like a 5 days.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !uefi | dumbo_000
[12:52] <SergioEDuran1> Hello friends
[12:53] <rvgate> locksmith, we did an auto-upgrade once on production... completely broke the platform because one of the packages had a new major release with a different storage mechanism... so yeah, i prefer frozen versions :P auto-update is nice for your personal server/computer tho
[12:54] <SergioEDuran1> the solution proposed by slidinghorn has not worked; any other idea? I need to make xboxdrv start with some extra options
[12:54] <rvgate> oh.. he left
[12:54] <SergioEDuran1> sudo xboxdrv --silent --detach-kernel-driver --mimic-xpad
[12:55] <dumbo_000> how to make sure my asus X554LA-XO1236D is a UEFI?
[12:56] <farooghkz> u cant access that.
[12:56] <farooghkz> in ubuntu?
[12:56] <dumbo_000> I am a newbie with freedos and never pretended it to be my main OS
[12:57] <dumbo_000> cause it really drives me out of mind
[12:57] <dumbo_000> i feel more confortable with linux
[12:57] <farooghkz> is freedos ubuntu?
[12:57] <farooghkz> but dis is ubuntu channel
[12:57] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, did you red the UEFI wiki?
[12:58] <dumbo_000> i'm looking for help to install linux
[12:58] <dumbo_000> ubuntu is linux
[12:59] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, you asked about uefi.  I'm guessing you did not read the uefi link.  No on is going to hold your hand, and ignoring resources will get your questions ignored.
[12:59] <dumbo_000> come on don't tell me i can't look for help in here again..you know there's no right place
[12:59] <dumbo_000> i'm reading it cfhowlett
[13:00] <farooghkz> dumbo, sorry that i cant help u :-(
[13:01] <Bobbbb> Hello! Please excuse me if this is in the wrong place...I am on a slow internet connection so stuff is slow...I have a general programming question. Can anyone help?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Bobbbb, ask #programming
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Bobbbb  what coding language?
[13:02] <Bobbbb> Cfhowlett thanks. Sorry to be a nuisance. MonkeyDust in python3 or java, it is more regarding general nonspecific stuff though
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bobbbb  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:03] <Bobbbb> MonkeyDust thanks!
[13:10] <dumbo_000> I got a drivers disk that came out with my laptop but cannot access dvd drive to install..
[13:10] <Abe> Duuhh It was Hamachi guys xD I didn't think of that, besides I thought this program doesn't have a connection until the program is startet
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  if you can't install, then what is your question exactly?
[13:12] <dumbo_000> when i get to boot options and select ubuntu disk it brings me to main freedos screen
[13:13] <dumbo_000> it ignores my command to boot from cd
[13:13] <Abe> dumbo_000: do you have an EFI system ?
[13:13] <dumbo_000> tried with external dvd drive
[13:13] <dumbo_000> and it doesn't recognize it
[13:14] <jflkj> hi, I'm trying to copy a folder into another folder using sudo cp -r folder1 folder2 but it won't let me copy the entire thing, apparently. using du -sbh it differs [13:13] == Cannot send to channel: ##linux
[13:14] <dumbo_000> i don't know how to see if i have an EFI system or not
[13:14] <jflkj> whoops
[13:14] <cfhowlett> dumbo_000, brand new, naked HDD?  you probably need to configure that drive before you do anything else.  read your hardware documentation.
[13:14] <jflkj> yeah, copied it because linux doesn't accept unregistered
[13:14] <Abe> dumbo_000: Is it an old BIOS or the newer kinds look newer mostly!
[13:14] <Abe> ?
[13:15] <Abe> if yes try turning off "secure boot" and later on turn it back "on"
[13:17] <hicken> why is still kepping asking password prompt  with ssh with publick autehntication i have folowed the steps http://www.golinuxhub.com/2014/01/how-to-create-password-less-ssh.html but still asking  me password
[13:17] <farooghkz> dumbo, say ur question again.
[13:18] <Abe> He cannot boot from CD
[13:18] <rvgate> hicken, not related to your question, but you should really avoid having passwordless ssh keys... even if someone gets a hold of your key, they wont be able to use it
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  and the dvd is burnt correctly?
[13:20] <rvgate> dumbo_000, i had a simular problem yesterday... fixed it by changing the SATA mode to AHCI in the bios
[13:21] <hicken> rvgate: i know but for the time bieang i want it to communicate  by both computers to do common task
[13:21] <martien> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 to install on an empty (old) laptop. Hoe can i install the .iso file?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> martien  burn it on a dvd or create a bootbale usb, then boot from there
[13:21] <farooghkz> martien, burn it on a dvd and boot it
[13:22] <rvgate> hicken, is the server prompting a password, or is it the prompt to unluck the key ?
[13:22] <jflkj> martien: use unetbootin, others might have trouble getting the casperfs right
[13:22] <Abe> dumbo_000: I bet you having problems with Uefi system
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> martien  partitioning is the hardest part, especially if you're familiar with it
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> not familiar*
[13:23] <hicken> rvgate: both of them are prompt even to unlock
[13:23] <martien> I copied it to a USB device. Booting from that device does not work.
[13:23] <jflkj> does anyone know my copying problem?
[13:24] <jflkj> martien: how did you copy it? is the iso file just in the disk or is it unpacked?
[13:24] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu ?
[13:24] <ikonia> jflkj: what version of ubuntu
[13:24] <Abe> where are all those guys coming from that want to install linux now :O
[13:24] <farooghkz> martien, u just copied?u should make a bootable usb
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> martien  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[13:25] <jflkj> martien: use unetbootin, yumi has trouble with the casperfs in 14.04
[13:25] <jflkj> ikonia: 14.04 live
[13:26] <Abe> just go and watch youtube tutorials on how to make a USB bootable
[13:26] <ikonia> jflkj: oh, as you're also asking in debian as a debian install ?
[13:26] <rvgate> hicken, check the destination first... disable the password login ssh server, set it to accept public key only... double check if your .pub is in the authorized_keys file.. also, make sure the user you're trying to login to matches the user on your machine, if not, prefix with ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>sorry if this sounds all basic
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Abe  just go and watch youtube how to fix your car
[13:26] <dumbo_000> there was no hardware documentation with the laptop..specs are those listed here: http://icecat.it/en/p/asus/90nb0658-m18500/notebooks-X554LA-XO1236D-27214044.html
[13:27] <jflkj> ikonia: see debian
[13:27] <ioria> dumbo_000, when you power on the laptop, what you got ? the Dos prompt  or what ?
[13:27] <martien> i copied the file from the download folder to the USB device. It is not unpacked.
[13:28] <ikonia> jflkj: what is the exact command you are using to copy the folder
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> martien  it has to be unpacked
[13:28] <jflkj> ikonia: sudo cp -r dir1 dir2
[13:28] <ikonia> jflkj: and what happens ?
[13:29] <ibm-r40> hi
[13:29] <Abe> dumbo_000: On this Pc yes you have probably an EFI system Go ahead and turn the secure boot off and choose The DVD Drive as First boot device. Install Ubuntu, after that go into your bios again and turn secure boot off. Don't forget to save your setting in the Bios
[13:29] <jflkj> ikonia: executes successfully, checking with du -sbh dir1 && dir 2 after it differs in size
[13:29] <martien> I downloaded and copied it with a windows laptop
[13:29] <ikonia> du is not something you should use to check
[13:29] <Abe> in the Uefi* sorry
[13:30] <jflkj> ikonia: with what should I?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> martien  ok, now you have to create a bootable usb with it, there are programs for that
[13:30] <ikonia> jflkj: a directory checksum ? or use rsync that has checking built in
[13:30] <farooghkz> martien, u should make a bootable usb. download unetbootin 4 windows
[13:30] <ikonia> jflkj: if it doesn't error - it's copied it exactly
[13:31] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me how to copy and check with rsync?
[13:31] <ikonia> rsync does it automatically
[13:31] <ikonia> it checksums before and after
[13:32] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me how to copy and check with rsync?p
[13:32] <jflkj> whoops sorry
[13:32] <Abe> MonkeyDust: sorry I take this back.
[13:32] <jflkj> pushed arrow up
[13:32] <ikonia> no problem
[13:32] <lettuce45> how do I start an application, from the cli, windowed?
[13:32] <jflkj> ikonia: do you know the command or should I read rsync?
[13:32] <dumbo_000> rvgate, my Sata mode is already AHCI and I can't change it
[13:33] <student> what is ubuntu channel for gci student
[13:33] <ikonia> rsync a b
[13:33] <jflkj> ikonia: should be root right?
[13:34] <ikonia> shy ?
[13:34] <ikonia> why ?
[13:34] <ikonia> why do you need to be root
[13:35] <dumbo_000> BTW: Serial ATA port 1 Device type:ATAPI CDROM Model name: MASHITA DVD-RAM UJ8HC
[13:35] <jflkj> can a normal user copy folders with root permissions? :s
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  with sudo
[13:35] <jflkj> yeah :P
[13:35] <ikonia> jflkj: what files arey ou trying to copy
[13:35] <jflkj> ikonia: root folder
[13:36] <ikonia> jflkj: there should only be systems files owned by root
[13:36] <ikonia> the root folder ? exactly what folder
[13:36] <jflkj> exactly
[13:36] <jflkj>  /root
[13:36] <ikonia>  /root is empty
[13:36] <ikonia> as there is no root user in ubuntu
[13:37] <jflkj> ikonia: it isn't empty :P
[13:37] <ikonia> jflkj: why is it not empty
[13:37] <ikonia> there is no root user in ubuntu
[13:37] <ikonia> so it should be empty
[13:38] <jflkj> ikonia: it's got all kinds of config files and stuff :D
[13:38] <ikonia> jflkj: why ?
[13:38] <ikonia> jflkj: it should be empty
[13:38] <farooghkz> ikonia, there is a root user in ubuntu that u can access it
[13:38] <ikonia> no you can't
[13:38] <ikonia> unlness you break the security model
[13:38] <ikonia> which you shouldn't be doing
[13:38] <farooghkz> with this
[13:38] <ikonia> hence /root should be empty
[13:39] <farooghkz> sudo -i
[13:39] <ikonia> that won't put you in /root
[13:39] <ikonia> that will give you a uid of 0
[13:39] <ikonia> so /root should be empty
[13:40] <farooghkz> we're talking about root user, right?
[13:40] <ikonia> what ?
[13:40] <jflkj> ikonia: well I got webcamstudio stuff in it, cache, config, dbus, gconf, gvfs, hplip, java, local, rpmdb, bash history, bashrc, profile
[13:41] <ikonia> jflkj: you shouldn't
[13:41] <ikonia> jflkj: why are you copying these elsewhere /
[13:41] <ikonia> you should not need anything in that directory
[13:41] <jflkj> ikonia: how is it in there then?
[13:41] <dumbo_000> how to add boot options in bios?
[13:41] <ikonia> depends what you have been doing
[13:41] <ikonia> dumbo_000: read your bios documentation
[13:41] <dumbo_000> i got a lamp
[13:41] <dumbo_000> lol
[13:42] <dumbo_000> where to find my bios documentation?
[13:43] <ioria> dumbo_000, why do you need to 'add' boot options ?
[13:43] <ikonia> in your botherboard manual/on the web
[13:43] <jflkj> ikonia: some askubuntu forum post said I should back it up
[13:43] <plasmalasgun> Does anyone knows how to config/install phpmyadmin? Whent localhost/phpmyadmin i always get 404
[13:43] <Abe> jflkj: Just put all your personal data and files in your Home Folder
[13:43] <farooghkz> dumbo, i think it comes with ur motherboard
[13:43] <ikonia> jflkj: then they are wrong
[13:43] <ikonia> jflkj: it should not be in the /root directory and you will never use/need it
[13:44] <dumbo_000> if i format everything i can still access bios?
[13:44] <Abe> jflkj: put all your stuff in your homefolder
[13:44] <dumbo_000> or boot from cd?
[13:44] <jflkj> abe ikonia so I should not backup etc, opt, root and var?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> dumbo_000  yes, bios loads before the os
[13:45] <dumbo_000> ioria, i need boot options cause it cancelled default boot options i dunno why
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> 'loads'
[13:45] <farooghkz> yes if that problem is not with bios.
[13:45] <dumbo_000> i dunno if freedos can be considered an os or not
[13:45] <ioria> dumbo_000, when you power on the laptop, what you got ? the Dos prompt  or what ?
[13:45] <farooghkz> but dont do that
[13:45] <Abe> jflkj: I don't even know what you're trying to do. all your files in you home folder
[13:46] <dumbo_000> now i dunno what i've done but i only have the bios setup
[13:46] <ikonia> jflkj: /var /???
[13:46] <dumbo_000> it's aptio setup utility
[13:46] <ikonia> jflkj: what are you trying to do - what is your end goal
[13:46] <farooghkz> dumbo, also u can find bios doc at site of bios
[13:46] <hicken> rvgate: infact i am also beginer i have already checked what you told me but i coudnt find .pub in the authorized_keys file in the  remote server?
[13:47] <ioria> dumbo_000,  so you don't have the freedos prompt ?   like   c :\    ?
[13:47] <jflkj> ikonia Abe I'm just backing up my system and moving to debian and I really don't want to lose anything
[13:47] <ikonia> that seems a bad idea
[13:47] <ikonia> as debian / ubuntu will have difference config
[13:47] <ikonia> so why are you backing up bad stuff ?
[13:48] <jflkj> ikonia: are you saying there is no way to not lose my files while going to debian?
[13:48] <ikonia> jflkj: what files ?
[13:48] <Abe> Debian? this is Ubuntu?
[13:48] <farooghkz> i think hes talking about personel files
[13:49] <dumbo_000> ok solved dunno why it has done this seems like my laptop do what it wants when it wants and ignores my opinion
[13:49] <jflkj> ikonia: files I've gathered over the last year on ubuntu
[13:49] <dumbo_000> now i can still have boot options but still cant boot from cd
[13:49] <jflkj> Abe: yes this is ubuntu, I'm running ubuntu
[13:49] <ikonia> jflkj: such as ?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  in your /home, there are pictures, music etc, but also config files ... the config files are (or can be) useless when changing distro
[13:49] <ikonia> jflkj: as so far you have listed log files in /var and /root config files
[13:49] <ikonia> which are nothing to do with you
[13:49] <rvgate> hicken, your key comes with a private and public key... the contents of the public key should go in the authorized_keys file at the destination for a specific user.. /home/<user>/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:50] <dumbo_000> got boot override in my bios setup but it doesn't work too
[13:50] <jflkj> ikonia: what about the files in etc, opt, and var?
[13:50] <Abe> Ubuntu is not Debian. Debian based yes, but still a different system. Just don't do what you're trying to do
[13:50] <ikonia> jflkj: why would you take them ?
[13:50] <ikonia> jflkj: they are log files and system config files for ubuntu
[13:51] <farooghkz> dumbo, do u test that cd with another computer?
[13:51] <dumbo_000> freedos tells me after start: FAILURE! no IDE/ATAPI Drives found
[13:51] <dumbo_000> i can't install drivers without accessing cd
[13:52] <ioria> dumbo_000,  if i were you i reload the default values of the bios....
[13:52] <farooghkz> drivers 4 freedos?
[13:52] <Abe> ?
[13:52] <jflkj> ikonia: okay.. so just backing up home then..
[13:52] <hicken> rvgate: so du  mean can i secify the location while iam copy from the clieant to  the remote server like  the remote server is hduser $sudo ssh-copy-id -i $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa.pub hduser@ipadres:/home/hduser/.ssh/authorized_keys
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: that can dangerous too
[13:53] <jflkj> ikonia: could you tell me what I can do?
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: take only what you want - not the whole directory
[13:53] <dumbo_000> when i try to access drive D: it tells me volume in drive D has no label, file not found
[13:53] <ikonia> as desktop config files for example won't port over
[13:53] <dumbo_000> it's the driver disk i can't access it like any other disks
[13:53] <ikonia> jflkj: copy the files you want to keep
[13:53] <Abe> jflkj: take all your personal files and back them up. like ikonia not the hole directory
[13:55] <jflkj> ikonia: Abe: what could be dangerous?
[13:55] <rvgate> hicken, the contents of id_rsa.pub (do a cat id_rsa.pub) should be inside the authorized_keys file at the server, on the user you're trying to login to
[13:55] <Abe> screwing with important system files
[13:56] <Abe> Take your home older as your home where you stuff everything in
[13:56] <Abe> thats what its for
 yeah i tested it with another computer, problem is not cd
[13:57] <dumbo_000> problem is how to make it read it
[13:57] <dumbo_000> it recognizes it but doesn't boot
[13:58] <Abe> dumbo_000: did you figure out if you have an EFI UEFI* System?
[13:58] <dumbo_000> or access files in here
[13:58] <jflkj> ikonia: Abe: for example I have images with owner access read and write, group acces read and other access none
[13:58] <dumbo_000> yeah efi
[13:58] <Abe> Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[13:58] <farooghkz> dumbo, i dont know. maybe cdrom cant read cd. why not using usb?
[13:59] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[13:59] <ikonia> jflkj: what ??
[13:59] <jflkj> ikonia: what it says
[13:59] <ikonia> jflkj: what are you talking about
[14:00] <dumbo_000> well i suppose it's efi
[14:00] <dumbo_000> i don't know for real
[14:00] <Abe> yes it is Efi your computer is a new one they all have EFI systems by now
[14:01] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you trying to boot Ubuntu from CD?
[14:01] <jflkj> ikonia: about backing up files. I can't copy files owned by root if others don't have write access
[14:01] <dumbo_000> http://icecat.it/en/p/asus/90nb0658-m18500/notebooks-X554LA-XO1236D-27214044.html this is the laptop
[14:01] <ikonia> jflkj: there are no files in your home directory owned by root
[14:01] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  100% of windows equipped pcs are UEFI since windows 8,/2010
[14:02] <dumbo_000> i launched it uefi
[14:02] <dumbo_000> ubuntu 12.04
[14:02] <dumbo_000> 64 bit
[14:03] <dumbo_000> it's working!
[14:03] <Abe> dumbo_000: 12.04 does not support UEFI systems
[14:03] <dumbo_000> fuck i really don't know why
[14:03] <dumbo_000> what if i install it then?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> !language | dumbo_000
[14:03] <ikonia> dumbo_000: stop swearing
[14:03] <Abe> dumbo_000: 14.04 does support UEFI systems. Do not and I repeat install 12.04 on a Uefi System
[14:03] <dumbo_000> sorry.
[14:03] <jflkj> ikonia: are you trolling me?
[14:04] <ikonia> jflkj: no
[14:04] <ikonia> jflkj: I'm stating a fact
[14:04] <dumbo_000> ok then... so the last version of ubuntu supports uefi?
[14:04] <Abe> dumbo_000: Yes get 14.04! or newer
[14:05] <dumbo_000> 15.04?what do you suggest?
[14:05] <Abe> Do not install or try installing 12.04 on a Uefi system
[14:05] <BluesKaj> 15.10 is the latest
[14:05] <dumbo_000> what are main differences between 14.04 and 15.04 in your opinion
[14:05] <dumbo_000> yeah but .10 are not LTS
[14:05] <martien> Thanks for the information. I made the USB device bootable. I have to restart to check if i can install this version.
[14:05] <Abe> dumbo_000: I would recommend a Long Term Support release
[14:06] <BluesKaj> niether is 15.04
[14:06] <Abe> dumbo_000: which would be 14.04
[14:06] <dumbo_000> why not?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[14:06] <dumbo_000>  so 14.04
[14:06] <dumbo_000> is it good as 12.04?
[14:06] <Abe> dumbo_000: 15.04 is not a long term support release. 14.04 is supported until 2019
[14:07] <jflkj> ikonia: okay, from the start, I am booting from a liveusb running ubuntu 14.04 accessing a fully encrypted partition. I want to back everything up to move to debian but can't open some images on the partition if I'm not root
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !lts
[14:07] <cfhowlett> ubottu is in an eggnog coma ...
[14:07] <ikonia> jflkj: you shouldn't have files in your home directory owned by root
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hmm what's with the infobot
[14:07] <jflkj> I do ikonia
[14:08] <Abe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> ubottu has a Xmas hangover
[14:08] <ikonia> jflkj: then change the ownership
[14:08] <ikonia> jflkj: what is the full path of these files
[14:09] <dumbo_000> how to make a bootable 8gb flashdrive with ubuntu?
[14:09] <jflkj> ikonia: since I told you I'm booting from a liveusb it's /media/ubuntu/partition/home/user/images/file
[14:10] <Abe> dumbo_000: Are you a native Windows user?
[14:10] <ikonia> jflkj: change the ownerchip then
[14:10] <ikonia> ownership
[14:10] <farooghkz> dumbo, with ubuntu?now u have ubuntu?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !usb | dumbo_000
[14:10] <dumbo_000> on this computer. but this is not mine
[14:11] <dumbo_000> w8 on this
[14:11] <jflkj> ikonia: my main priority is backing it up now, and I can do it as root
[14:12] <dumbo_000> oh fuck
[14:12] <hicken> rvgate: i have already creat .pub but now when i am trying to ssh " Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/hduser/.ssh/known_hosts). Permission denied (publickey)." the permition is  600 of each user
[14:12] <dumbo_000> i got gnu grub
[14:12] <BluesKaj> dumbo_000:  there's not much point if you can't use your own pc while people are giving you advice
[14:12] <dumbo_000> sorry for telling the wrong world with f. again
[14:13] <Abe> dumbo download 14.04 Burn it to DVD or make a bootable USB Stick, choose that (USB, DVD)as Boot Option in Uefi, install Ubuntu.
[14:14] <ikonia> jflkj: change the paermissions
[14:15] <Abe> Grub is the boot manager,
[14:16] <jflkj> ikonia: why change it if I can copy them as root, don't say "because they're not supposed to be root" or anything else that would waste bytes in irc logs please
[14:17] <ikonia> jflkj: because you're not supposed to and you're copying something with the wrong permisions
[14:17] <ikonia> fix it and copy it right
[14:17] <dumbo_000> no more freedos in here, no more gnu grub
[14:18] <dumbo_000> just a message: reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[14:18] <jflkj> ikonia: copying as root copies everything, correct?
[14:18] <dumbo_000> i suppose i made something wrong
[14:18] <Abe> dumbo_000: If you ask more specific people can give you more specific advise
[14:18] <dumbo_000> i'll solve on my own
[14:18] <ikonia> jflkj: no
[14:18] <dumbo_000> thank you for your help lol
[14:18] <ikonia> jflkj: being root has nothing to do with everything
[14:19] <dumbo_000> i abused too much of your patience
[14:25] <Abe> jflkj: why do you have this thing with root all the time?
[14:26] <Abe> good luck you all
[14:26] <jflkj> Abe: root has access over all my files and user doesn't for some randomly for various reasons
[14:26] <ikonia> so change the permissions
[14:26] <ikonia> stop making things worse by copying the files setup wrong
[14:27] <ikonia> sudo chown -R jflkj:jflk /home/jlfk
[14:27] <Abe> You could look into "chmod"
[14:28] <ikonia> why are you even doing this from a liveusb
[14:28] <jflkj> ikonia: I don't want user to be able to access some files
[14:28] <ikonia> just do this from your ubuntu install
[14:28] <ikonia> jflkj: you don't want a user to be able to access files in the users home directory - that is just wrong
[14:28] <ikonia> just doing things wrong and conform
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: if the user would be exploited I would have some files with root only write access
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: meaning they're not in danger
[14:30] <ikonia> jflkj: thats just silly
[14:30] <ikonia> jflkj: that is a terrible idea
[14:30] <Abe> actually only read sounds better to me
[14:30] <jflkj> ikonia: why
[14:31] <jflkj> Abe: thank you. finally someone gets it
[14:31] <ikonia> jflkj: because if the user was exploited they would have root access anyway
[14:31] <jflkj> ikonia: no
[14:31] <ikonia> and if they are protected files they should not be in the users home directory
[14:31] <Abe> jflkj: sorry I didn't
[14:31] <ikonia> fix your file permissions and move on
[14:32] <Abe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[14:33] <jflkj> ikonia: they wouldn't have root access if a user would be exploited, they can perfectly be protected from write while being root only for write
[14:33] <ikonia> no
[14:33] <ikonia> this is just bad
[14:34] <jflkj> why
[14:34] <ikonia> jflkj: a users home directory should not contain files owned by root
[14:34] <ikonia> if you want to do this - do it, but don't expect help from people
[14:34] <jflkj> ikonia: why not
[14:34] <ikonia> because you are making a problem with a bad idea
[14:34] <jflkj> ikonia: what is the problem
[14:35] <jflkj> ikonia: you're just saying "because it is"
[14:35] <ikonia> the fact that you need root access to access files in yoru users home directory
[14:35] <ikonia> and you end up with files with the wrong ownership
[14:35] <Abe> I never had Permission Problems in my /home directory... only if I had to mark them as executable
[14:35] <ikonia> if files need to be owned by root - they live outside the home directory
[14:36] <Abe> jflkj: listen to ikonia
[14:36] <jflkj> ikonia: they have group read access, they can perfectly be read by the user
[14:36] <ikonia> then why set them to be owned as root
[14:36] <ikonia> what value is that
[14:36] <ikonia> as the "compromised" user can read them
[14:36] <jflkj> ikonia: because they can't be deleted then
[14:37] <ikonia> who cares ???
[14:37] <ikonia> why would someone delete them
[14:37] <terrasapien> accidents happen
[14:37] <ikonia> terrasapien: by that logic ever file on the system should be owned as root
[14:38] <jflkj> ikonia: what terrasapien said, for very important files. plus, why would someone bomb a city?
[14:38] <jflkj> why would someone troll?
[14:38] <terrasapien> except the ones owned by user, yes of course
[14:38] <Abe> jflkj: do "sudo su" then "rm" the system files xD
[14:38] <ikonia> jflkj: don't be silly
[14:38] <ikonia> jflkj: you're making a problm where one doesn't exist
[14:38] <jflkj> thanks Abe will do
[14:38] <ikonia> terrasapien: right - these are USER files and he's setting them to be owned by root in the home dir
[14:39] <terrasapien> ikonia: well that is bizzare. i came late to the discussion
[14:39] <Abe> xD
[14:39] <ikonia> terrasapien: everyone things it's bizzare
[14:39] <terrasapien> yet bizzare is not necessarily "wrong"
[14:39] <ikonia> it is when you're locked out of those files and can't copy them as he is now
[14:40] <Abe> ikonia: was thats wrong?
[14:40] <ikonia> I've lost interest now
[14:40] <jflkj> ikonia: if I want a user to be able to read but not write to a file, how should I do this?
[14:40] <ikonia> jflkj: set the file system permissions to user read only
[14:41] <terrasapien> chmod 044 file ??
[14:41] <jflkj> right, why is it "wrong" in home?
[14:41] <ikonia> setting the permissions to read only is not wrong
[14:41] <ikonia> setting the owner to root is
[14:42] <ikonia> jflkj: do what you want - you'll just make a mess of your system,
[14:42] <terrasapien> ikonia: oh now I see the issue and agree with you
[14:42] <terrasapien> certainly NOT the best way to make files read only
[14:44] <morsnowski> isn't more a linux topic?
[14:44] <terrasapien> jflkj: go read man chattr
[14:44] <morsnowski> or did I miss the python implication
[14:44] <terrasapien> change file attributes gives you fine  levels of control over file permissions
[14:44] <craigbass76> Any GUVC users in here?  Trying to figur eout how to add captions to a live stream, and I'm either numbing it or it can't be done.
[14:45] <jflkj> anyways, my main issue is: I'm backing up files to move to debian. I've been told I should backup all kinds of folders and told I should backup home only
[14:45] <ikonia> jflkj: get on with it then
[14:45] <ikonia> you'll have to do it your own way
[14:45] <jflkj> ikonia: whatr
[14:45]  * morsnowski withdraws his last comment
[14:45] <ikonia> get on with backing up the files you'll want - you'll have to do it your own way
[14:46] <farooghkz> jfklj, u can copy, right?
[14:46] <morsnowski> of course these root owned files will make it a lot easier
[14:46] <jflkj> ikonia: I don't want to break my system but people are telling me all kinds of stuff what I can't and should do without giving reasons
[14:46] <ikonia> jflkj: they are giving reasons, you're just not interested and want to your own thing
[14:47] <jflkj> ikonia: what's 1 given reason? :s
[14:47] <ikonia> jflkj: read the back scroll
[14:47] <craigbass76> jflkj make suree you get it all (the dot directories)---  I'vehadbetter lucvk with rsync than just copying
[14:47] <ikonia> do not get the . directories
[14:48] <ikonia> a lot of them will configure components that are not the same in debian
[14:48] <ikonia> take only the files you want
[14:48] <craigbass76> why not?  What if he wnts his thunderbird profile?
[14:48] <ikonia> it depends on the file
[14:48] <ikonia> hence why I said take what you need, not the whole lot
[14:48] <terrasapien> but not all . dirs -- best to just hand pick the ones he wants
[14:49] <craigbass76> Oh.  I just grab them all and sort it out after
[14:49] <terrasapien> then wonder why your debian install is doing backflips and hiccups on speed
[14:51] <morsnowski> terrasapien: that's the fun part, I do it the same way as craigbass76
[14:52] <jflkj> so sudo chown -R jflkj:jflk /media/ubuntu/partition/home/jlfk ?
[14:53] <ikonia> no, as your on a live system
[14:53] <ikonia> so that user won't exist
[14:53] <ikonia> and not from your ubuntu install
[14:53] <ikonia> why are you doing this from a live system
[14:56] <jflkj> ikonia: I can't boot into the encrypted partition because of the recent bug with it where it's racing
[14:56] <ikonia> jflkj: a bug ?
[14:56] <ikonia> which bug ?
[14:56] <ikonia> whats the bug id
[14:56] <jflkj> ikonia: I'll try finding it
[14:56] <ikonia> that sounds very serious if it locks people out of their encypted disk
[14:57] <Abe> ikonia: you don't know that racing bug?
[14:57] <ikonia> no
[14:58] <Abe> xD
[15:01] <jflkj> ikonia: disconnected
[15:02] <jflkj> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536
[15:02] <jflkj> thus people can't easily patch it
[15:02] <ikonia> just having a read, not seen this
[15:03] <ikonia> jflkj: what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:03] <jflkj> ikonia: latest
[15:03] <ikonia> which one
[15:03] <Abe> hmm
[15:03] <Abe> this error will appear but the system will then proceed to boot successfully and have the encrypted volume successfully mounted.
[15:04] <jflkj> ikonia: 15.10 (latest)
[15:04] <Abe> you still get in jflkj
[15:04] <Abe> ?
[15:04] <jflkj> ikonia: my liveusb I'm on right now has 14.04
[15:05] <jflkj> Abe: yes, if booting from a liveusb and manually verifying the password in terminal
[15:06] <Abe> jflkj: I thought you were trying changing file permissions... sorry I think I missed the last part :/
[15:06] <ikonia> what an interesting bug I'd not seen that
[15:07] <ikonia> jflkj: if you do an ls -la against where your home directory is mounted on the livecd what do you get
[15:07] <ikonia> (can you show us in a pastebin please)
[15:07] <Abe> ikonia: do you type with ten fingers?
[15:08] <ikonia> yes
[15:08] <jflkj> lol abe
[15:08] <ikonia> (8)
[15:09] <jflkj> ikonia: could you clarify that question?
[15:09] <ikonia> could we please see "la -la" of where your home directory is mounted on the livecd please
[15:10] <Abe> ikonia: I wish I could do that
[15:10] <hicken_> I made a mistake and deleted the "known_hosts" file in ".ssh" folder! Now I can't pull
[15:11] <livcd> what do i put to sources.list to get xenial repo ?
[15:11] <ikonia> it will recreate
[15:11] <jflkj> ikonia: you want to see the content of /media/ubuntu/partition/home ?
[15:11] <ikonia> please
[15:11] <ikonia> ls -la
[15:11] <ikonia> the -la is key
[15:13] <jflkj> ikonia: this? :s
[15:13] <jflkj> http://pastebin.com/xLWtczsm
[15:14] <ikonia> jflkj: one level more in
[15:14] <ikonia> thats useful though, showing uid 1000:1000
[15:14] <jflkj> ikonia: like.. back?
[15:15] <ikonia> forward, "in" one level more
[15:15] <jflkj> ikonia: into jflkj ?
[15:15] <ikonia> yes
[15:16] <jflkj> ikonia: I feel kind of uncomfortable sharing all these things
[15:17] <jflkj> ikonia: what do you want to check?
[15:17] <ikonia> don't then
[15:17] <ikonia> lets leave it there
[15:18] <jflkj> ikonia: :/ don't be childing
[15:18] <jflkj> ikonia: :/ don't be childish*
[15:18] <ikonia> what ?
[15:19] <Abe> damn... I don't even get what u guys are even talkin about xD. I can help installing but this is to high for me
[15:19] <jflkj> ikonia: I'm kind of a private person
[15:19] <ikonia> thats fine, thats why I said don't share it and lets leave it ther
[15:19] <ikonia> there
[15:20] <jflkj> ikonia: will it still help if I remove the directory names?
[15:20] <livcd> i need to install a single package from Wily to my Vivid host
[15:20] <ikonia> jflkj: lets not bother any more, changing data is just going to give missleading info
[15:20] <livcd> What's the best way to do it without including the Wily's repos ?
[15:20] <ikonia> it's clear your embarrassed by what you have in your home directory, so lets not push the matter
[15:20] <ikonia> livcd: you should not do that at all
[15:21] <terrasapien> jflkj: try: find /home -perm 644 | wc -l
[15:21] <livcd> ikonia: i need a new version of Ruby
[15:21] <daftykins> Abe: hang around and you'll pick things up ; but yeah, dont try to help if you don't know :)
[15:21] <terrasapien> and then find /home -not -perm 644 | wc -l
[15:21] <jflkj> terrasapien: what does it do?
[15:21] <ikonia> terrasapien: I'm interested in the different uid's due to it running from a livecd,
[15:21] <ikonia> (well, I was interested)
[15:22] <Abe> daftykins: trying to :D
[15:22] <terrasapien> i'm just curious, maybe not quite so far as interested ;)
[15:22] <jflkj> ikonia: it's all root and 1000 1000
[15:23] <jflkj> you people are making me paranoid :P
[15:25] <daftykins> root isn't UID 1000?
[15:26] <ioria> 0
[15:26] <terrasapien> jflkj: find /home/ -not -user YOU | wc -l
[15:27] <terrasapien> and then fix everything with: find /home/ -not -user YOU -exec chown YOU:YOU {} \;
[15:28] <jflkj> terrasapien: you're just locating the user on the partition? (not the liveusb user)
[15:28] <ikonia> he can't do you:you
[15:28] <ikonia> he's on a livecd
[15:28] <ikonia> thats why you're seeing uid 1000
[15:28] <terrasapien> oh, i forgot, you're on liveCD . . . my bad
[15:29] <Iresf> hi everyone
[15:29] <Iresf> any know workin with selendroid in android-studio on ubuntu ?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !find android
[15:30] <daftykins> ioria: yeah i more meant it sounded like jflkj was saying it was :>
[15:30] <ioria> daftykins, ^_^
[15:36] <Mr_Fox> Hi All
[15:37] <Mr_Fox> Any body here ?
[15:38] <daftykins> yes
[15:38] <jflkj> ikonia: how do I back my files up from a liveusb then?
[15:38] <daftykins> Mr_Fox: ask a question, don't expect generic pleasantries ;)
[15:38] <ikonia> jflkj: ask someone else, it's clear you want to do it your own way and don't want to share information
[15:38] <ikonia> jflkj: anyone in the channel will help
[15:38] <daftykins> !pm | Mr_Fox
[15:39] <Mr_Fox> how are you daftykins ?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Mr_Fox  this is the support channel, not a 'how are you'-channel
[15:39] <Mr_Fox> ok sorry
[15:40] <Mr_Fox> I just want anyone to advice me which is best operation system and powerfull system sorry for bad english
[15:41] <Mr_Fox> it's just advice
[15:41] <daftykins> Mr_Fox: ask in #linux - this is the ubuntu channel.
[15:41] <daftykins> "best" is rubbish though
[15:41] <Mr_Fox> ok Thanks too much
[15:42] <jflkj> ikonia: I just don't want to share files which are named after people to protect their privacy. I'm happy to share information involving default files
[15:42] <ikonia> jflkj: ask the channel - not me, please.
[15:44] <jflkj> I want to backup files from ubuntu using a liveusb, I'm moving to debian. Which files should I backup and how can I do this from a liveusb?
[15:45] <daftykins> and store them where?
[15:45] <jflkj> daftykins: on an external disk
[15:45] <daftykins> so just copy the whole /home
[15:45] <daftykins> if your /home lives on its' own partition you don't even need to do this
[15:46] <jflkj> daftykins: it doesn't, I'm using full disk encryption
[15:46] <daftykins> good luck with that then
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  so safe, that you locked out yourself, so to say?
[15:47] <jflkj> MonkeyDust: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536 no, I mounted the partition
[15:47] <Ulised> hello, i've joined my sftp server once via my filemanager, and i told that remember forever my password, but now i want to change user and password but it wont prompt me the user and pass thing, how i can edit or remove that old user?
[15:48] <jflkj> daftykins: things like /var/ (16 gb) are useless while moving to debian?
[15:48] <daftykins> jflkj: yes.
[15:48] <daftykins> jflkj: like i already told you, /home is where user data lives - nothing else is needed
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> jflkj  but you encrypted everything, not just /home?
[15:50] <jflkj> daftykins: what is a certain way to make sure the whole /home/ gets copied? there are things like rsync, cp, ...
[15:50] <ikonia> daftykins: he's missing key facts for you here
[15:50] <jflkj> MonkeyDust: the bug applies to full disk encryption
[15:50] <Abe> jflkj: I might not be able to help you *at all but can you still boot into your ubuntu partition like normal, and backup like all the files you want to keep onto a external harddrive?
[15:51] <ikonia> daftykins: 1.) he's moving to debian so a lot of the .config files will be a problem 2.) he's got files in his home directory owned by root for "security" ???
[15:51] <jflkj> abe no, I'm experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1481536
[15:52] <aotea> My GRUB menu lacks Memory Test, I only got options for two different Kernels and their Recovery modes.
[15:52] <OerHeks> jflkj, so if you cannot login, how would you backup your data?
[15:52] <Abe> jflkj: Yes I have read that. but it says this error will appear but the system will then proceed to boot successfully and have the encrypted volume successfully mounted.
[15:52] <jflkj> OerHeks: I mounted the partition through my liveusb
[15:53] <jflkj> Abe: it's a race bug, for some people it doesn't boot.
[15:53] <Abe> jflkj: Oh it doesn't boot
[15:53] <daftykins> ikonia: well we don't need to handle the other end 'restore' :)
[15:54] <daftykins> jflkj: lol files owned by root in home, are you nuts?
[15:54] <Abe> jflkj: Well I thought if it still boots, you could rescue your data... :/
[15:55] <jflkj> alright alright tell me how to make everything not owned by root  then :P
[15:55] <daftykins> super secure FDE, even the user can't get to it
[15:55] <jflkj> Abe: I can
[15:55] <daftykins> i think we're done here :)
[15:55] <terrasapien> if you can mount the partition in any way, you can restore your data
[15:55] <jflkj> daftykins: I already said I can
[15:55] <daftykins> i don't care too much, jflkj
[15:56] <jflkj> sorry I didn't mean to be rude
[15:56] <Abe> jflkj: you said "for some people it doesn't boot" does this apply to you?
[15:56] <jflkj> yes Abe
[15:56] <anabain> how can I add a new hdd in /media/folder through /etc/fstab ?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | anabain
[15:57] <Abe> jflkj: So basically you want to rescue your data from an encrypted hard drive you cannot access?
[15:57] <jflkj> no Abe
[15:57] <Abe> jflkj: You cannot access it like normal <---
[15:58] <jflkj> yes
[15:58] <Abe> jflkj: Ah I get your hole problem now, and I was thinking all the time what you want
[15:59] <OerHeks> jflkj, so your partitions are mounted but not unencrypted?
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: I unencrypted them
[16:00] <Abe> Well my HDD is also encrypted, If I wouldn't be able to access it on "regular" boot (not live CD) I would have a Problem
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: I just need to back up home
[16:00] <jflkj> OerHeks: from a liveusb
[16:00] <ikonia> just copy the files
[16:00] <OerHeks> jflkj, oh great, backup your data then, not sure why you come up with a bugreport that does not apply to your situation.
[16:00] <ikonia> how hard is this to grasp
[16:01] <OerHeks> putting us on the wrong lane ..
[16:02] <Abe> ikonia: did I understand this right?
[16:02] <jflkj> abe you can just use sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdax /sda
[16:03] <jflkj> OerHeks: people were asking me why I was using a liveusb, I simply responded
[16:06] <jflkj> ikonia: when I try rsync fromdir todir it says skipping directory .
[16:06] <Abe> jflkj: If you are not able to boot into your PC, like you always would (Not from Live CD) I cannot help. and like all the guys that answered you with "good luck" etc, that are way more experienced then I am. talking to me doesn't make much sense then
[16:07] <Abe> makes not*
[16:07] <terrasapien> jflkj: unless you tell the channel your specific command, and then coherently describe the results, you might get some quality help
[16:07] <EriC^^> jflkj: what's the problem buddy?
[16:08] <terrasapien> garbage in gabage out, you know the routine
[16:08] <Abe> oh i had it right the first time sorry
[16:08] <ren0v0> Hi, my ethernet keeps taking itself down in the last few weeks. I'm assuming it could be related to a kernel update, can anyone help me debug ?
[16:09] <ren0v0> lspci tells me this  >    Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411
[16:10] <jflkj> terrasapien: # rsync /media/ubuntu/partition/home/ /media/ubuntu/partition/backup/ skipping directory .
[16:10] <jflkj> EriC^^: I'm trying to backup files from a liveusb (I can access my encrypted drive)
[16:10] <terrasapien> jflkj: put a -var after the word rsync and see if that helps
[16:10] <EriC^^> jflkj: ok, so it's decrypted and mounted?
[16:11] <jflkj> yes EriC^^
[16:11] <EriC^^> rsync -Pvr /path/to/files /path/to/destination
[16:12] <jflkj> EriC^^: terrasapien what should I do now? -var or -vPr?
[16:13] <MikeRL> Got a slight issue here. I had some issues with a previously behaving swap partition 16GB in size, and so I booted into a Live CD and deleted it and recreated it, toggling the swap off and on as needed.
[16:13] <terrasapien> jflkj: do you have any dice handy?
[16:13] <MikeRL> But now boot time has increased quite a bit. On a recent install on a quick, new laptop.
[16:14] <compdoc> youre showing there's swap available?
[16:14] <jflkj> terrasapien: I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. just hearing all kinds of things from different people
[16:14] <jflkj> terrasapien: what's the difference between -a and -P on rsync?
[16:14] <terrasapien> jflkj: try one, then if you don't like the results remove what was copied and try the other
[16:14] <compdoc> MikeRL, what issue did you have before you deleted the old one?
[16:14] <MikeRL> Uh oh. I think I have a bot trying to religiously convert me.
[16:15] <MikeRL> I'm getting a zillion messages talking about Islam. Too bad I'm an atheist.