[08:19] <ActionParsnip> ashvala: sup?
[08:19] <remo-ch> Hi!
[08:20] <ashvala> I am on Ubuntu Lucid, After installing the graphics driver for my NVidia card, I cannot go to TTY mode with out crashing X.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Senji: you can boot to the ubuntu iso, its an image and will give you an OS
[08:20] <plasmasolutions> Hit here, I've got a problem with my different terminals (ALT+Fx): Since a long time, I'm running with the proprietary nvidia drivers...and never got any other console working (they look totally cluttered) except the alt f7...is there a solution for this?
[08:20] <Senji> yeah yeah ActionParsnip
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Senji: compatible with virtualbox too
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> ashvala:  whats your video card?
[08:20] <Senji> i guess i'll have to download the iso and install it myself, am downloading it now
[08:21] <dpac_> Guys, I want to know how I can copy multiple files with same name and have them autorenamed? For eg, find ./ -name "file.txt" -exec cp {} ./ ; How do I make it so that if it finds second file it renames it to file2.txt instead of overwriting.
[08:21] <Senji> i'm pretty sure either ubuntu or another of the latest distros had a download a vm image option
[08:21] <ashvala> Dr_Willis: NVidia 7200GS
[08:21] <rypervenche> How can I get "Pinyin" and "Bopomofo" to show up in my ibus IME again? I had to purge ibus and reinstall it, and now they are not there. I use Bopomofo normally.
[08:21] <ashvala> plasmasolutions: Bingo, same issue
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Senji: if you mount the iso instead of burning, the install will be superuick. Like installing win98 from a directory on the drive instead of slow ass cd
[08:21] <bieber> n00b question here: I have a TV tuner that sends its audio through the line-in jack on my sound card (with a physical cable), and since updating to 10.10 it's not playing through the speakers any more, and I can't figure out how to get it to
[08:22] <Senji> ActionParsnip yep
[08:22] <bieber> It captures fine through sound-recorder or whatever, but I want to play it through the speakers
[08:22] <RudyValencia> bieber: are you related to Justin Bieber?
[08:22] <Senji> doubt it
[08:22] <OLD> Senji I think we just dont understand the need for a premade VM of ubuntu (or linux) in general
[08:22] <Digital_1> omg it's Justin Bieber!
[08:22]  * RudyValencia puts Xubuntu on his lappy
[08:23] <Senji> OLD it's like a live cd in that you just switch it on and it works
[08:23] <Senji> but it's installed
[08:23] <Senji> i think there's a very small cross section of users and users who would want that kind of think
[08:23] <Senji> like verry small
[08:23] <RudyValencia> btw, bieber: there should be a 'mute' button in the mixer for the line-in jack, unmute it
[08:23] <bieber> Haha, no, we just got the same last name
[08:23] <RudyValencia> ah
[08:24] <plasmasolutions> ashvala: Feeling a little less luckier now that we are two :)
[08:24] <OLD> I mean I did that today at work
[08:24] <shiftingcontrol> have any one used free2me here ?
[08:24] <ashvala> plasmasolutions:likewise
[08:24] <gurpreet> i want to learn perl
[08:24] <OLD> istall only took like few minutes really don't know cause I was alt tabbing to work lol
[08:24] <bieber> On the Input tab in the mixer it's unmuted (and showing levels), but there's no line-in option on the output tab
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> gurpreet:  and whats stopping you?
[08:24] <gurpreet> someone please tell me a good book to read it
[08:24] <rypervenche> How can I get "Pinyin" and "Bopomofo" to show up in my ibus IME again? I had to purge ibus and reinstall it, and now they are not there. I use Bopomofo normally. My $LANG is zh_TW.utf8
[08:25] <mark2010> rypervenche: TY i just did this and i'll try it ... thanks everyone for your help, i just got a little overwhelmed!
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> gurpreet:  theres proberly dozens of them aviliable online for free. check the perl homepage? also check delicious.com for what people have tagged as perl tutorials, perhaps.
[08:25] <ejv> dpac_: i recommend you provide a thorough example, of a "before" state, and an "after" state, for the batch rename script you want. use pastebin and then share it with us the channel.
[08:25] <remo-ch> could you help me in this please: i installed on my netbook ubuntu 10.10 x64 and modified it to the netbook remix version and it worked fine. then i installed apart the easypeasy 1.6 of ubuntu. now when i boot i can just choose the easypeasy and the ubuntu 10.10 doesn't appear, although it's installed :(
[08:25] <rypervenche> mark2010: No problem. Oh once you do what I said, you will need to actually install the browser using "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> gurpreet:  any by that O'reially company are worth looking into.
[08:26] <bieber> Has the audio mixer changed from previous versions, and is there a way I can install the one that was used before?
[08:26] <gurpreet> Dr_Willis: ty I've been to perl homepage
[08:26] <gurpreet> have started bit by bit
[08:26] <bieber> tvtime also used to be able to change the line-in output volume, but now it's stuck at 0
[08:26] <the1994> wow both chrome and chromium destroy sunspider
[08:26] <ejv> gurpreet: /join #perl and read their topic, they will have good resources posted.
[08:26] <gurpreet> was just asking if anybody had some favs based on experience
[08:26] <gurpreet> ok
[08:26] <dpac_> ejv: Sure, I'll do it.
[08:27] <mark2010> rypervenche: TY i just looked and didnt see it. i"ll do that now
[08:27] <ejv> gurpreet: this is the ubuntu support channel, for ubuntu related issues. #perl is the more appropriate place.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> gurpreet:  all my perl books are rather old. :)
[08:27] <gurpreet> hehe
[08:27] <gurpreet> so is the lang
[08:27] <gurpreet> ejv: yes duly noted i've joined #perl
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> I used to code mainly in 'REXX' befor i did perl.
[08:28]  * residntAngel waves to the good doctor
[08:28] <plasmasolutions> Anyone an ideo for my problem?
[08:28] <residntAngel> lol
[08:29] <dpac_> ejv: http://pastebin.com/6xkwxi3B
[08:30] <remo-ch> could you help me in this please: i installed on my netbook ubuntu 10.10 x64 and modified it to the netbook remix version and it worked fine. then i installed apart the easypeasy 1.6 of ubuntu. now when i boot i can just choose the easypeasy and the ubuntu 10.10 doesn't appear, although it's installed :(
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  'apart  the easypeasy' ? clarify what you mean...
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  you installed easypesy  AND ubuntu both os's on the same machine?  If the grub loader for one is not showing both oss  you proberly need to let ubuntu handle the grub menu/loader.
[08:31] <rypervenche> How can I get "Pinyin" and "Bopomofo" to show up in my ibus IME again? I had to purge ibus and reinstall it, and now they are not there. I use Bopomofo normally. My $LANG is zh_TW.utf8
[08:31] <remo-ch> sorry for my english... i just installed it on another partition
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  the latest grub in ubuntu is rather good at finding OTher oss and setting up the grub menus to show them. If its not. You can always edit the /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add a entry to show the other OS.
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  personally i dont see much need for 'easypeasy' these days. Im not sure if its even being actively developed any more.
[08:34] <rypervenche> mark2010: Any luck?
[08:34] <mark2010> rypervenche: thank you for your but unfortunately it did the same thing...lock up on load for pandora
[08:35] <mark2010> *help
[08:36] <gurpreet> dpac: you need a script for that??
[08:36] <remo-ch> ok, thanks dr. willis. i'd prefer the ubuntu 10.10 too, but is it complicated to make show the ubuntu 10.10 with grub? i'm not a informatics-genius...
[08:37] <mark2010> rypervenche: not quite sure...used to work on 10.04. youtube works....but slow....snail slow.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  If you are lucky. 'sudo update-grub' from ubuntu. will see and set it up... if not - you add a proper entry to that file i m entioned.
[08:37] <rypervenche> mark2010: So you updated to 10.10 and your flash plugin is slow, that's your problem?
[08:37] <tiox> And of course, my problems were fixed when I rebooted.
[08:37] <dpac_> gurpreet: Well, I suppose so
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> remo-ch:  you sould of installed ubuntu last. :)
[08:38] <tiox> But, why when I hooked into an HDMI monitor and went into a low resolution, did Iose my theme?
[08:38] <mark2010> rypervenche: i did not remove the gnash...letme do that
[08:39] <trijntje> Hi all. Yesterday the installation of the proprietary drivers for my radeon card went wrong and now I have no graphical interface. Can someone help me isntall the correct driver from the command line?
[08:39] <snowrichard> i burned a bad cd -- turns out it only downloaded 227 mb of the image.  I'm doing a torrent download instead now
[08:40] <mark2010> rypervenche: the prob appears to be the gnash...let me get rid of that
[08:40] <airtonix> remo-ch, ? have a a look at guides on the internet about editing grub2 menu : one of the files you will deal with is at /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:40] <tiox> snowrichard: SHould have just tried HTTP again.
[08:40] <snowrichard> but i'm out of cdr's so i'll have to use unetbootin and an external usb drive to install
[08:40] <tiox> Also...
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  you can start the torrent.. let t downlioad a bit.. then copy that 'bad' cd to the torrent location, and restart the torrent and have it 'check/verify' the data. :) that can save some time..
[08:40] <snowrichard> the torrent is going pretty quick
[08:41] <tiox> unetnbootin isn't required anymore if you can use the Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com.
[08:41] <hardwired> 'llo. Is there something like screen for X? I have a headless system on which I want to start an X app. I have a remote X server that can display the X app, but then I want to put the X app in background and shut down the remote system.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  i pretty much never burn cd's any more. Usb flash drive installs are the way to go.
[08:41] <airtonix> snowrichard, it'll go even quicker if you do what Dr_Willis said
[08:41] <snowrichard> its actually a 2 TB external, i don't have a flash drive handy lol
[08:41] <airtonix> hardwired, i usually use ssh with the -Y paramter
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> amazing thing about PendriveLinux, how many of their tools/scripts are windwos only...
[08:41] <tiox> Doesn't matter.
[08:42] <tiox> Oh, that does.
[08:42] <rypervenche> mark2010: I need to restart. I'll be back in a few minutes.
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  You can also set up Grub2 to boot the ISO files.
[08:42] <yuanjie> adasd?
[08:42] <tiox> But pendrivelinux is in the business of Windows converts.
[08:42] <mark2010> rypervenche:ok
[08:42] <yuanjie> sdfjsdfksdfs
[08:42] <yuanjie> wuyu
[08:42] <tiox> Rather, Ubuntu converts from Windows.
[08:42] <airtonix> !english | yuanjie
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> yuanjie:  your cat is on the keyboard?
[08:42] <tiox> lol
[08:42] <yuanjie> 谁会在linux里调整分辨率
[08:42] <tiox> Happens to one of my friends.
[08:42] <snowrichard> looks like that's what unetbootin was doing, but i didn't have the full image
[08:42] <trijntje> Can someone help me installing ATI driver from command line?
[08:42] <OLD> Dr_Willis: The linux version is unetbootin
[08:43] <yuanjie> who can
[08:43] <yuanjie> ？
[08:43] <yuanjie> who can?
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> OLD:  last i checked Unetbootin was very differnt from the pendrive linux uninversal installer tool.
[08:43] <OLD> Arent they te same people
[08:43] <airtonix> yuanjie, no one can.
[08:43] <yuanjie> help  me!
[08:43] <OLD> It does the same thing...when I used it it did
[08:43] <airtonix> yuanjie, help us
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> OLD:  not the last time i looked into them. they could be working togeehr in many ways.. but i found Unetbootin a better tool in many ways.
[08:43] <airtonix> !cn | yuanjie
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> OLD:  theres many tools that do the same thing. :)
[08:44] <yuanjie> i don't understand
[08:44] <airtonix> !ko
[08:44] <airtonix> !jn
[08:44] <yuanjie> can you speak chinaese
[08:44] <airtonix> yuanjie, no but you can start by writing in english here.
[08:44] <Kethal> Speaking chinese wouldn't help much in here.
[08:44] <tiox> WOah, ubottu's multilangual??
[08:44] <yuanjie> and i'm from chinese
[08:44] <rww> !cn
[08:44] <Kethal> As sound doesn't travel well through the monitor.
[08:45] <yuanjie> i can speak little english
[08:45] <snowrichard>  type /join #ubuntu-cn to get the chinese ubuntu channel
[08:45] <Digital_1> who me?
[08:45] <OLD> yuanjie what country?
[08:46] <fgh> where are cellphones mounted in ubuntu?
[08:46] <yuanjie> thanks
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> fgh:  most filesystems get monted to /media/
[08:46] <gurpreet> dpac: i'll look into it but i am busy right now
[08:46] <tedge> trijntje: this might be of use: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414194
[08:46] <hardwired> airtonix: good idea, I never thought about SSH
[08:46] <yuanjie> thanks very much
[08:47] <tiox> There ought to be a command called !lang
[08:47] <Mikey^> fgh: I dont think phones are mounted to /media. They are usually mounted using ifuse
[08:47] <tiox> Or...
[08:47] <_Beast> mitm
[08:47] <fgh> mikey^: yes because i cant find my phone
[08:47] <remo-ch> dr_willis and airtonix : thanks for your help, unfortunately i'm not good with the console... but i found an app called startup manager. now i can choose between different OS to boot - i'll try :)
[08:47] <Mikey^> fgh: So it usally opens up in nautilus but as some usb://
[08:47] <trijntje> tedge, I was looking at that myself, but I was wondering if I should follow a guide for 7.04
[08:48] <tiox> When someone joins #ubuntu, redirect to a channel with a bot that posts in multiple languages to a user so they can see what languages are available.
[08:48] <fgh> mikey^: yep i see it there but cant move files to it
[08:48] <Digital_1> its /media for my sdcard in my android phone when connected over usb
[08:48] <Mikey^> fgh: Try unplugging and plugging it again. What phone do you have ?
[08:48] <airtonix> hardwired, just remember though that if you run an application that is normally launched with parameters to give you sane defaults (like nautilus) then you will need to provide those parameters...(ie without --no-desktop nautilus will render a desktop plane for itself)
[08:48] <tiox> Then this place becomes #ubuntu-en
[08:48] <fgh> mikey^: ericsson aino
[08:48] <fgh> u10
[08:48] <Mikey^> fgh:  you can do it as root. use the terminal and copy files using sudo
[08:48] <yuanjie> are you american?
[08:48] <Lanh> Hi, anyone well-versed in GnuPG and Psi at all? I need help, Psi isn't recognising my keys to allow me to select them
[08:49] <Rikkie> Hi Can someone help me with playing a live stream that has DRM on it ? I can't get it to work.
[08:49] <Mikey^> fgh: do, sudo nautilus and you should be able to do it
[08:49] <hardwired> aioobe: OK
[08:49] <snowrichard> use ogg streams no drm lol
[08:49] <snowrichard> dir.xiph.org
[08:49] <_Beast> Lanh: you are or are not well versed in gnuPg and PSI ?
[08:50] <tiox> Rikkie: Transmageddon should be able to convert it into something that works.
[08:50] <OLD> yuanjie what country?
[08:50] <yuanjie> glad to see 大家
[08:50] <yuanjie> china
[08:50] <airtonix> fgh, make sure you've told your phone that you want to have the USB as a "mass storage device" type connection
[08:50] <OLD> cool
[08:50] <tiox> Join #ubuntu-cn then.
[08:50] <Rikkie> Ok, I
[08:50] <tiox> :)
[08:50] <yuanjie> and you?
[08:50] <OLD> me?
[08:50] <Rikkie> 'll give it a try.
[08:50] <Rikkie> thx
[08:50] <yuanjie> yes
[08:50] <OLD> Soon to be living in Taiwan
[08:50] <xangua> !ot
[08:50] <airtonix> !ot
[08:50] <yuanjie> taiwan?
[08:50] <OLD> ot
[08:51] <Lanh> _Beast I know enough to get it working in Thunderbird, and it worked in my previous install, but for some reason, this time around for some reason, my keys aren't showing up
[08:51] <yuanjie> china
[08:51] <tiox> Sounds nice, OLD
[08:51] <yuanjie> taiwan belongs to china
[08:51] <_Beast> Lanh: your private keys ?
[08:51] <ugliefrog> can anyone tell me how to get the indicator applet to show when new mail arrives
[08:51] <OLD> I am not touching that.
[08:51] <Kethal> Taiwan is the other China OLD
[08:51] <Lanh> I'm using 10.04 by the way...I tried meerkat but it kept freezing randomly, so I reverted to the LTS version
[08:52] <Lanh> _Beast yes
[08:52] <psycho_oreos> yuanjie, that is offtopic, please discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:52] <Kethal> China 1
[08:52] <xangua> ugliefrog: open evolution
[08:52] <OLD> yea wiki it
[08:52] <OLD> or is wiki blocked in china?
[08:52] <Kethal> But I guess if you're going there, I'm sure you know that.
[08:52] <yuanjie> ok!
[08:52] <_Beast> Lanh: I had the same issue with my private keys unfortunately I just made new ones
[08:53] <yuanjie> i'm sorry
[08:53] <ugliefrog> xangua, it has to be open all the time
[08:53] <fgh> mikey^: heh, my phone doesnt popup in the root nautilus :/
[08:53] <Lanh> _Beast They showed up in the PSI window after you did that?
[08:53] <yuanjie> this is my first time chat here
[08:53] <Mikey^> fgh: Ah..
[08:53] <_Beast> Lanh: No I did not
[08:53] <xangua> ugliefrog: ore use a mail notification program
[08:54] <jags> hey would it be possible to set maximize windos to right click while moving windows with alt in gnome?
[08:54] <jags> to avoid having to navigate to the menubar?
[08:54] <shiftingcontrol> configure: error: /bin/bash autotools/config.sub Files/handbrake-svn3603/build/contrib/ failed
 make: *** [contrib/a52dec/.stamp.configure] ,i tried installing handbrake i got following errors
[08:54] <yuanjie> i want make some  friends
[08:54] <yuanjie> IT
[08:54] <_Beast> lol
[08:54] <xangua> yuanjie: this is not the place
[08:55] <yuanjie> why?
[08:55] <psycho_oreos> !ubuntu | yuanjie
[08:55] <Mikey^> fgh: dont you see it in the left side bar in nautilus ?
[08:55] <yuanjie> here can not make friends?
[08:55] <_Beast> rofl serious inquiries only
[08:55] <psycho_oreos> !support
[08:55] <Digital_1> troll detection alert
[08:55] <Lanh> Ah, they've just disappeared from Thunderbird too...looks like I'm going to have to create new ones after all
[08:55] <jags> is there any fix yet for the compiz wallpaper plugin in 10.10? I heard it was a problem with x11
[08:55] <shiftingcontrol> Digital_1:handbrake can cnvrt drm protcted files?
[08:56] <RudyValencia> heh, Xfce is like Gnome Lite :P
[08:56] <_Beast> Lanh: I know the feeling
[08:56] <yuanjie> i konw
[08:56] <Digital_1> shiftingcontrol:dvds
[08:56] <Mikey^> RudyValencia: becasue they use the same framework, gtk
[08:56] <yuanjie> my computer has broken
[08:56] <psycho_oreos> this channel is a support channel, not to channel to make friends or to talk about countries belonging to other countries
[08:56] <Digital_1> err dvds
[08:56] <RudyValencia> yeah
[08:56] <yuanjie> iwill^
[08:56] <RudyValencia> but it's lighter than Gnome
[08:56] <RudyValencia> :D
[08:56] <yuanjie> yes
[08:56] <mark2010> hey room: Thank You ALL for your help! got it now in FF. Got Pandora...got some Janes Addition goin!  THANKS Again!!!
[08:56] <Mikey^> RudyValencia: yes..
[08:56] <yuanjie> we all konw
[08:57] <rypervenche> mark2010: ^^
[08:57] <Lanh> _Beast Such is life I guess mate, lol
[08:57] <rypervenche> yuanjie: Look at your private message.
[08:57] <mark2010> Ya'll are Awesome!!
[08:57] <RudyValencia> now if only my b43 wireless card didn't conflict with my 3c59x ethernet built into my laptop
[08:57] <soreau> jags: I have created a patch for the problem, though it's only for compiz 0.9 so far
[08:57] <fgh> mikey^: oki solved, had to reboot phone into storage mode
[08:57] <Lanh> _Beast At least most of my system was recoverable
[08:57] <psycho_oreos> if your problem is related to computer, state it with enough details in English
[08:57] <Mikey^> fgh: good..
[08:57] <yuanjie> what?
[08:58] <shiftingcontrol> Digital_1:I m getting following error configure: error: /bin/bash autotools/config.sub Files/handbrake-svn3603/build/contrib/ failed
[08:58] <OLD> wh uses Lubuntu?
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> OLD, you might want to ask that in #lubuntu
[08:59] <_Beast> Lanh: lol ;) , yes for some reason that is
[09:00] <Rikkie> ok, I've installed transmageddon. But it seems to be a tool to remove DRM from for example mp3 files. Can I set it to decode a stream as well? In that case, I'm failing to see/find how to do that
[09:00] <mark2010> rypevenche: Awesome...
[09:01] <Digital_1> shiftingcontrol:  might be a prob with the daily build.  The other one you can try is Thoggen.  It's pretty simple and available from the Software Center.  It only coverts the file to OGV tho.
[09:02] <Rikkie> I don't wanna convert a file though, I'm trying to play a live stream ;)
[09:02] <_Beast> Lanh: Can you even view the keys ? I am trying to think of a way possible to recover them
[09:03] <Lanh> _Beast Nah mate, I've just created a new one and sent it out
[09:04] <_Beast> Lanh: 10-4
[09:04] <lucadealfaro> Need to buy a desktop to run Ubuntu 10.4 LTS.  Any advice?  Shall I just get one of the various HP desktops?
[09:05] <OLD> lubutu is sweet and its only nstalling
[09:05] <OLD> I wasable to coonect via wifi and chromium is default
[09:05] <OLD> sorr this channel is more active
[09:06] <heimdal> test
[09:06] <blakkheim> lucadealfaro: build your own
[09:06] <lucadealfaro> blakkheim: I don't want to spend the time
[09:06] <momentum> why deos ubuntu resume from suspend-to-ram take like 5 seconds, since eveyrthing is in ram? does warming up the video card take that long?
[09:06] <blakkheim> lucadealfaro: it takes a couple hours at most, costs less and offers much more option
[09:07] <Guest82747> is it possible to move icon from top-left corner in top-right corner ? i use ubuntu 10.10
[09:08] <lucadealfaro> blakkheim: yes, but I have to investigate which motherboard runs Ubuntu fine, etc etc -- that's where the time goes.  And if by any chance something does not work, it's harder to know what to swap.  With a desktop, if it doesn't work, I can just return it (in the US).
[09:08] <nadav> is there a way to enhance my wifi reception?
[09:08] <lucadealfaro> Been there, build many systems fine, but now I just want to buy + install.
[09:08] <nadav> like modifying the driver or some thing?
[09:08] <blakkheim> lucadealfaro: linux will work with 99% of the hardware you find, especially if it's modern. you also won't have to pay for a windows license you won't use
[09:08] <rkpisanu> is it possible to move icon from top-left corner in top-right corner ? i use ubuntu 10.10
[09:08] <hotfloppy> rkpisanu: as in 10.04, yes you can.. just modify the setting in gconf-editor
[09:09] <blakkheim> !repeat > rkpisanu
[09:09] <hotfloppy> rkpisanu: but i dont know about 10.10..
[09:09] <rkpisanu> ok thanks
[09:09] <lucadealfaro> Ok, so the strategy seems to be, go, buy, try.  If it does not work, return and repeat.  I don't feel sorry returning the hardware; if vendors bothered to state what works with linux, it would not happen.
[09:09] <rkpisanu> how is it possible to run gconf-editor ?
[09:10] <xangua> rkpisanu: run "gconf-editor"
[09:10] <lucadealfaro> Thanks blakkheim
[09:10] <OLD> luca anything new built will run 10.04
[09:10] <blakkheim> lucadealfaro: and you didn't "want to spend the time" to build..
[09:10] <hotfloppy> rkpisanu: hit alt+f2 then type 'gconf-editor'.. without the ' of course..
[09:10] <tensorpudding> lucadealfaro: you should judge the machines generally without linux in mind, then make sure that ubuntu supports the hardware out of the box.
[09:11] <hotfloppy> rkpisanu: then get down to /apps/metacity/general then change the button_layout to 'menu:minimize,maximize,close'
[09:11] <lucadealfaro> blakkheim: I build many fine; > 10.  Then on the last one, something went wrong.  I did not know whether to return the CPU, the memory, the graphics card, the motherboard -- it was a nightmare.
[09:11] <Melior> Is there any way to seee how much bw each process takes or maybe ip?
[09:11] <tensorpudding> lucadealfaro: ubuntu will probably run on most everything you could find in terms of desktops, but there are often quirks involving new hardware
[09:12] <lucadealfaro> I decided that if I was building MANY, I would have sufficient components at hand to swap in and out in case of trouble
[09:12] <lucadealfaro> But I decided, no more building of one-offs.
[09:12] <tensorpudding> lucadealfaro: if you want to be totally sure, buy one of Dell's Ubuntu machines, or a system76 machine
[09:12] <lucadealfaro> Ok thanks.
[09:13] <Mikey^> lucadealfaro: Also usually thinkpads are pretty compatible
[09:13] <OLD> uca I found the old bare bones setups to work awesome
[09:13] <Mikey^> I have a lenovo 3000 and had no problems 3 years back when I bought it
[09:13] <lucadealfaro> Yes, but I want a low-power server to leave humming in a corner.  Yes, a bare bone would also be great, any advice?
[09:14] <OLD> what is the server use?
[09:14] <OLD> is it for working
[09:14] <TopGear> hello
[09:14] <OLD> file sharing? dns server?
[09:14] <_Beast> ello
[09:14] <TopGear> Got a few problems after installing Kubuntu 10.10: My Conky is all black with white letters, but there should be no background... I can't reach my NAS in any ways. Only through SAMBA, but that doesn't work quite well. And after a fres 10.10 install, I don't see any grub2 booting up :s
[09:14] <TopGear> http://tinyurl.com/33cs94e for the conky
[09:15] <TopGear> and for the .conkyrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/514348/
[09:15] <lucadealfaro> OLD: host some repositories, do some batch jobs, things of this type; no X necessary, no graphics.
[09:15] <OLD> one person connecting?
[09:15] <OLD> two? 10+
[09:15] <OLD> ?
[09:15] <momentum> why deos ubuntu resume from suspend-to-ram take like 5 seconds, since eveyrthing is in ram? does warming up the video card take that long?
[09:16] <tensorpudding> lucadealfaro: maybe a nettop
[09:16] <OLD> cause you can prob go really ceah if your only one accessing it and doing not too much intensive stuff
[09:16] <lucadealfaro> Well, more, but nobody working on the machine.  It might host stuff like wiki-related code.
[09:16] <lucadealfaro> I am looking at <$500,
[09:17] <momentum> why deos ubuntu resume from suspend-to-ram take like 5 seconds, since eveyrthing is in ram? does warming up the video card take that long?
[09:17] <tensorpudding> lucadealfaro: if your space needs are really small, something like a guruplug
[09:17] <blakkheim> !repeat | momentum
[09:17] <momentum> !repeat | blakkheim
[09:18] <blakkheim> momentum: don't abuse the bot please
[09:18] <momentum> blakkheim: don't abuse the bot please
[09:18] <blakkheim> !op
[09:18] <pksadiq> I accidently deleted the network icon from the pannel , how to add it back?
[09:18] <amarcolino> hi how do I go about asking a question that will take more than two lines, would I just pastebin it?
[09:19] <AbhiJit> amarcolino, 3-5 lines question is fine here
[09:19] <bartj> which logs can I delete in the /var/log to free up space ?
[09:19] <_vaibhav_> how to get unique id associated with PCI? like hardware id?
[09:19] <amarcolino> AbhiJit, ok
[09:19] <guzu> hello all
[09:19] <Mikey^> _vaibhav_: lspci
[09:20] <pksadiq> amarcolino: add \n for the next line :)
[09:20] <amarcolino> Morning currently implementing an Ubuntu cluster install based on information found on this link http://goo.gl/WzA. Just wished to know if their is any actual advantage of spliting CLC/Walrus and CC/SC components into two machines instead of leaving them in one machine.
[09:20] <pksadiq> I accidently deleted the network icon from the panel , how to add it back?
[09:20] <guzu> how can i upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10? i wanna do it without optical drive, and without reinstalling from usb
[09:20] <nico_tognetti> hello. 1st time here. wish change computer name. did run sudo gedit /etc/hosts /etc/hostname but i don't understand in /etc/hostname which words i have to change
[09:20] <ikonia> guzu: network upgrader
[09:20] <AbhiJit> guzu, do you have broadband connection?
[09:20] <ikonia> guzu: it's the recommendaed approach
[09:20] <guzu> ikonia, how?
[09:21] <Mikey^> pksadiq: Check the panel applets
[09:21] <amarcolino> pksadiq, ok
[09:21] <guzu> AbhiJit, yes
[09:21] <ikonia> !upgrade > guzu
[09:21] <rkpisanu> thanks hotfloppy , i resolve it
[09:21] <ikonia> guzu: check the pm ubottu has just sent you
[09:21] <AbhiJit> guzu, sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:21] <hotfloppy> rkpisanu: my pleasure :)
[09:21] <ikonia> guzu: that guide will walk you through it
[09:21] <ikonia> AbhiJit: it's not that simple,
[09:22] <pksadiq> Mikey^: I added , but it contain only volume,accessiblity and bluetooth, no network manager
[09:22] <AbhiJit> ikonia, yah
[09:22] <guzu> ikonia, AbhiJit thank you very much
[09:22] <Mikey^> pksadiq: No, Right click on the panel and choose add to panel
[09:22] <ikonia> guzu: any problems shout, make sure you read the document though as it sets you up perfect for an easy upgrade
[09:23] <pksadiq> Mikey^:  so what to add from that?
[09:23] <Mikey^> pksadiq: Is there something like network manager ?
[09:23] <rypervenche> How do I run a .patch file? I need to fix my ibus with this method here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/659690
[09:23] <Mikey^> pksadiq: you can also run sudo networkmanager-gnome I think
[09:24] <packshaud> Does anyone have Free Download Manager working under Wine/Ubuntu 10.10?
[09:24] <syrius> http://www.markfiore.com/constitutional_compromise_0
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> After i disabled GUI boot in grub.cfg (nosplash) i can't press shift for grub menu anymore..anyway to combine grub menu and txt boot?
[09:25] <shkiper> did anybody ran the Fallout 1 in Ubuntu?
[09:25] <asmcos> how to compile ubuntu 10.10 at ubuntu 10.04?
[09:25] <nico_tognetti> how to change computer name, please?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | nico_tognetti
[09:25] <pksadiq> Mikey^: Sorry, I see only network monitor, no manager in Add to panel
[09:25] <Mikey^> pksadiq: ok. Try networkmanager-gnome
[09:26] <pksadiq> Mikey^:  not working :(
[09:26] <Mikey^> pksadiq: Usually networkmanager will just appear when you relogin
[09:26] <pksadiq> Mikey^:  also along with that I have lost the icon to change default keyboard from panel
[09:26] <Mikey^> I am not sure about that
[09:26] <pksadiq> Mikey^:  k, I'll try l8r
[09:26] <Mikey^> ok
[09:27] <rypervenche> How do I run a .patch file? I need to fix my ibus with this method here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/659690
[09:27] <guzu> ikonia, thank you
[09:27] <Rikkie> I've installed transmageddon. But it seems to be a tool to remove DRM from for example mp3 files. Can I set it to decode a stream as well? In that case, I'm failing to see/find how to do that
[09:29] <bartj> rypervenche, patch -pnum patchfile
[09:29] <nico_tognetti> Dr_Willis, I'm sorry
[09:29] <bartj> rypervenche, or patch options original_file patch_file
[09:29] <nico_tognetti> Dr_Willis, I haven't understood...
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> !hostname | nico_tognetti
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> you edit the file. and use the commands the bot said.
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> I dont know of any gui tools to edit it.. never needed any
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> Dr_Willis I know that, thanks. my current computer name is "nicopc" My doubt is: in /etc/hostname I have
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> <IP_ADDRESS>	nicopc	# Added by NetworkManager
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain	localhost
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> ::1	nicopc	localhost6.localdomain6	localhost6
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> <IP_ADDRESS>	nicopc
[09:32] <FloodBot3> nico_tognetti: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <nico_tognetti> which "nicopc" should I substitute?
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> err.. all of them
[09:36] <nico_tognetti> test
[09:36] <Daremonai> what happened to nmbd on ubuntu 10.10?
[09:36] <nico_tognetti> Dr_Willis, ok. thanks
[09:37] <mark2010> G'nite Yall. Thanks again for your help.
[09:43] <elit3m1ke> i have just install kde on ubuntu 1010 but it wont appear in gdm, and suggestions?
[09:44] <rusty149> elit3m1ke: sudo apt-get kdm
[09:45] <rusty149> elit3m1ke: sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:45] <rusty149> elit3m1ke: sorry missed a word then
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> err.. all of them
[09:46] <elitemike> rusty149 do you have any suggestions?
[09:46] <rusty149> elit3m1ke: yeh, open terminal and type: sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:46] <cfenix> hahaha
[09:46] <elitemike> i have done that
[09:46] <rusty149> elit3m1ke: then reboot
[09:47] <elitemike> but it wont appear in gdm
[09:47] <elitemike> i have
[09:47] <rypervenche> How do I add this patch file to ibus? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/659690
[09:49] <nadav> hey
[09:49] <nadav> is there a way to enhance my wifi reception? like modifying my driver some how?
[09:49] <An_Ony_Moose> the select-and-middle-click copying and pasting seems not to work anymore.... I couldn't find anything about it in the release notes. Was it disabled by the upgrade?
[09:49] <cfenix> hello everyone, i need some help with the "grub"
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> You normally use a patch file to patchsource. then recompuile the source rypervenche . Ive not had to use a patch file in years
[09:50] <An_Ony_Moose> cfenix, explain your exact problem rather than saying you have a problem
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:  it seems to be working here.
[09:50] <_Beast> nadv: it depends on what chipset or card you have
[09:50] <An_Ony_Moose> Dr_Willis, O.o it suddenly works for me too xD
[09:50] <An_Ony_Moose> nevermind :P
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:  ive noticed on some mice.. the middle clicks can be flakey
[09:50] <rypervenche> Dr_Willis: Aww, so basically it's beyond my ability :(
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  no idea.. :) is it..
[09:51] <An_Ony_Moose> Dr_Willis, the mouse itself is perfectly fine. thanks all the same :)
[09:51] <_Beast> lol @ beyond my ability
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:  some ive seen let you side scroll. I have a hard time clicking.. and not sidescrolling with them
[09:51] <cfenix> sorry about that, i'm new here.. the thing is that every time that i update ubuntu (the kernel) it add a new version in the list of the grub instead of just change it
[09:51] <lucent> cfenix: I notice that also
[09:52] <tensorpudding> cfenix: yeah, you can remove the old versions if you want though
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> cfenix:  normally the newest kernel is the default. Unless theres some 'save default' option set in the /etc/default/grub file
[09:52] <lucent> cfenix: running 'sudo update-grub' does it
[09:52] <lucent> for some reason that was broken, and now as of the upgrade to Maverick, is working again
[09:52] <tensorpudding> cfenix: the reason why they keep the old one when you get a new kernel version is so that you have a fallback if the new one doesn't work
[09:52] <W4RH4WK> cfenix, if you want to remove the old kernel version i recommend using synaptics
[09:52] <An_Ony_Moose> Dr_Willis, I have a perfectly normal vertical scrollwheel that's easy to click with :)
[09:53] <rypervenche> Why are patches made instead of the problem being fixed and sent to the main package so everyone can benefit from the fix?
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> An_Ony_Moose:   PEBKAC then? :)
[09:53] <tensorpudding> not having a working kernel means your system is unbootable, which is generally a big problem
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  in the next version release they proberly will be ncluded..
[09:53] <cfenix> thanks everyone =)
[09:53] <An_Ony_Moose> xD... I do NOT know.
[09:53] <Lanh> When I'm remotely logging into a server, what filename do I have to save the SSH key as in the ./ssh folder?
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  some patches are for 'testing' befor they get included in the main tree also.
[09:54] <nadav> _Beast, I belive its RT2561
[09:54] <Rikkie> Hi, I'm trying to set up transmageddon to decode a live stream, can someone help me with that ?
[09:54] <Lanh> The public key I mean
[09:54] <rypervenche> Dr_Willis: Next version being Natty or an update of Maverick?
[09:54] <W4RH4WK> tensorpudding, right, keeping an old & working kernel is might save your ass one day^^
[09:54] <tensorpudding> Lanh: authorized_keys, generally
[09:54] <tensorpudding> Lanh: you copy your public key into that file
[09:55] <W4RH4WK> got a question too, need to setup a server which mirrors the content of one directory to a secound server in realtime
[09:55] <tensorpudding> Lanh: though you should check the sshd_config file of the server to be sure
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  ubuntui tends to not do minor version changes to packages btween releases.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  unless its a security type issue
[09:55] <inn> cw=Z]PSH_SVF/
[09:55] <inn> cw=Z]L&P9N1PSN[PeN~S?LKPONJPBNOPQOc
[09:55] <inn> cw=Z]NrS0?$
[09:55] <W4RH4WK> my first aproch was, creating a cronjob which starts rsync, and run that every 5 min or so
[09:55] <W4RH4WK> any other ideas for realtime mirroring
[09:56] <lucent> mirroring does no good if you put bad data in
[09:56] <cab_> W4RH4WK: rsycn keeping a synced copy, use nfs mount if you want the two servers to use the same directory at the same time
[09:56] <syrius> yo
[09:56] <syrius> for real
[09:56] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cx=Z]PN~Rp~NPRM~R:~NeRM}|!#RN~S;~G|
[09:56] <syrius> keep it tight with da ubuntus
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]PcO"PeO8PpO+RBO>R|HYPQNpQ=
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]Q(O2R<O1RNOBReJYR5O/Qz
[09:57] <rww> inn: stop that.
[09:57] <W4RH4WK> i know mirroring is not good, but i my "boss" tells me what to do... i just find a solution :P
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]P.O-RIO+PnO-PXJTR1O7PtO+PeO#P\O(PaOK
[09:57] <lucent> syrius: hide ya' kids, hide ya' wife ?
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]DRPSNsP[LLPXNpPeN}PO
[09:57] <FloodBot3> inn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]R"LPP`O(R>O/PjO'PZLRPVNtP[M)
[09:57] <inn> de=`aav$``f,cw=Z]OrPANWS\@9
[09:57] <syrius> wo is inn?
[09:57] <W4RH4WK> cab_, well you say, mounting 2 hdd in the same directory?
[09:57] <SaRy> !paste | inn
[09:58] <rypervenche> Dr_Willis: So basically I can't type in Chinese for 6 months....just great. I might as well quit school then.
[09:58] <SaRy> !who | inn
[09:58] <syrius> !crack | inn
[09:58] <syrius> !crack | Aciid
[09:58] <syrius> !ubuntu | syrius
[09:58] <rww> !fishing | both of you
[09:58] <lucent> W4RH4WK: tell your boss to make regular backups and use RAID0+1
[09:58] <syrius> hahaha
 Sorry, I don't know anything about crack
[09:59] <elky> syrius, stop that.
[09:59] <W4RH4WK> lucent, well i go and have a talk with em on monday
[09:59] <cab_> W4RH4WK: well, we have one tomcat app that has three servers reading from the same static nfs folder, so when data gets changed in that folder, all servers are reading the same updated data
[09:59] <lucent> W4RH4WK: userspace tools to mirror files is asking for epic fail
[09:59] <W4RH4WK> lucent, xD
[10:00] <cab_> W4RH4WK: using nfs is not making a backup of the files though..
[10:00] <lucent> if you *must* because of failover reasons (which will probably do just that... fail) then there's a MIRROR target for the LVM DM stuff
[10:00] <Xaifas> anyone that can tell me or give me a link to how can i convert dynamic disk to basic in ubuntu? found only random outdated-notworking docs on the internet about it
[10:01] <vincenzino> hello I use ubuntu 10.10, i'm trying to use some midi applications but midi sounds doesn't want to work.Should i modify alsa-base.conf?
[10:01] <lucent> W4RH4WK: even using LVM and snapshot features with userspace tools is going to be a hassle to keep 2 copies at a point in time operational
[10:01] <lido76-32> #jotihunt
[10:01] <cab_> any arguments against nfs??
[10:01] <lucent> cab_: o_O many. Do you want just one?
[10:02] <pksadiq> is there panel version for rythmbox in 10.10? to navigate songs, fast forward,rewind etc?
[10:02] <cab_> :)
[10:02] <lucent> pksadiq: I thought it was integrated into the volume control aplet
[10:02] <lucent> applet*
[10:02] <Xaifas> anyone?
[10:03] <arvut__> vlc is the cure =)
[10:03] <Slipknot6669> Hey, Im wondering if I can pick someones mind on ubuntu? Today is my first day using and I think Ive already messed something up.
[10:03] <lucent> arvut__: I thought the cure was "more cowbell" ?
[10:03] <pksadiq> lucent: is it?  ! so can I seek songs from the panel itself just by scrolling the rhythm box icon in panel?
[10:04] <arvut__> nah, it must surely be more cobweb
[10:05] <Slipknot6669> Ok well heres how the story begins...
[10:05] <Slipknot6669> I couldnt get any sound after install.
[10:05] <W4RH4WK> so there isn't an app in synaptic or the ubuntu software center which lets me create realtime backup to a remote computer?
[10:06] <lucent> pksadiq: answer is to boot a livecd and try it yourself
[10:06] <Slipknot6669> Checked the faqs and help pages, and didnt really understand what it was telling me.
[10:06] <lucent> pksadiq: I don't know what you're asking about
[10:06] <lucent> W4RH4WK: "realtime backup" what elephant nuts is that
[10:06] <Slipknot6669> So I reinstalled.
[10:07] <lucent> W4RH4WK: if you want a backup of a file that is in a consistent state, use 'duplicity' command available in repos
[10:07] <Slipknot6669> Actually, throughout the day Ive reinstalled probably 6 times
[10:07] <TopGear> hello
[10:07] <lucent> W4RH4WK: getting things into consistent states is not the job of userland
[10:07] <TopGear> Is there someone who knows how to import Evolution mails+settings to KMail?
[10:07] <W4RH4WK> lucent, maybe i'm using the wrong word for what i want but ill have a look
[10:08] <Slipknot6669> Well the last time. I grabbed the latest version of ubuntu...10.10
[10:08] <bullgard4> What is the function of the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.35/debian.master/ ?
[10:08] <lucent> Slipknot6669: you mean last week, then?
[10:08] <lido76-32> join#jotihunt
[10:09] <Slipknot6669> After install it prompted me to reboot and I did, and when it came back up to the boot screen ( where you see the Esc[boot menu] F10 [system restore] etc...It froze. I couldnt press any buttons, nothing.
[10:10] <Slipknot6669> restarted the pc a few times and got the same thing over and over.
[10:10] <pksadiq> lucent: Have you used windows ever? haven't you seen a minimized version of mediaplayer in the task bar with all the control in a minimal mode, like the same , is that what I intend to ask
[10:10] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: What do you see when it freezes?
[10:11] <lucent> pksadiq: Windows for Workgroups 3.11, so... what is a task bar?
[10:11] <Slipknot6669> Now if I put the boot cd back in. It boots up and will let me try or install, but I cant get anything on the reboot after install.the boot screen
[10:11] <Slipknot6669> I see the boot screen
[10:11] <Slipknot6669> ESC [boot menu] etc
[10:11] <lucent> pksadiq: do you mean DOS mode?
[10:11] <Slipknot6669> yes
[10:11] <pksadiq> lucent:  I mean Windos XP or vista
[10:12] <lucent> oh, those look like KDE right?
[10:12] <pksadiq> windows*
[10:12] <Slipknot6669> Im wondering if its the pc or if my hard drive failed?
[10:12] <W4RH4WK> lucent, well duplicity looks like a good solution for creating backups, ill show it to my boss... what would your aproach be to keep to different servers mirrored
[10:12] <Slipknot6669> IDk what KDE is
[10:12] <Slipknot6669> Today is my first day with Linux ever
[10:12] <lucent> Slipknot6669: suggest trying to boot and install an earlier release, say 9.04 LTS
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: It sounds like the PC, but it's interesting that you get no error message and that you can still boot the LiveCD.
[10:12] <pksadiq> !kde
[10:13] <lucent> Slipknot6669: there's a number of regressions in the kernel that is included with maverick 10.10
[10:13] <Slipknot6669> I see
[10:13] <Slipknot6669> 10.06 wasw working great
[10:13] <Slipknot6669> but i couldnt get any sound
[10:14] <pksadiq> lucent: if Slipknot6669 is a newbie , Why you include harder termsin your words?
[10:14] <Slipknot6669> me?
[10:14] <pksadiq> terms in *
[10:14] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: I don't think it's a failed hard drive, as you would see error messages in the live environment and during the install.
[10:14] <Slipknot6669> oh
[10:14] <lucent> W4RH4WK: I would bill my boss for a pair of Wiebetech Ultradock's, a pelican 1400 case, and 6-7 harddisks and show him / her how to back up their crap
[10:14] <pksadiq> Slipknot6669: hmmm, don't know :)
[10:14] <Slipknot6669> I understand some stuff from the reading ive done so fsar
[10:15] <W4RH4WK> lucent, kk, got your point
[10:15] <W4RH4WK> lucent, thx for the help
[10:15] <lucent> W4RH4WK: there's an ideal way to do this, and then there's the way it's going to get done
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: I also doubt that an earlier release of Ubuntu would behave any differently as it doesn't sound like you're even getting out of the BIOS to where Ubuntu code is running.
[10:15] <Slipknot6669> Ill try the older version again and see what happens.
[10:15] <lucent> I sort of work in the industry and know about how it gets done ;)
[10:15] <Slipknot6669> Thanks for the input guys!
[10:15] <W4RH4WK> have to go, cu
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: One thing to try before you leave.
[10:16] <Slipknot6669> yes?
[10:17] <Jordan_U> Slipknot6669: Boot from the LiveCD, then during the first 5 seconds press any key to get a boot menu. From that menu select "Boot from first hard disk".
[10:17] <Slipknot6669> ok
[10:17] <Slipknot6669> ill try that
[10:17] <Slipknot6669> thanks man
[10:19] <bullgard4> What is the function of the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.35/debian.master/ ?
[10:22] <rana> hello frndz
[10:22] <pksadiq> rana:  Hello
[10:22] <rana> some buddy plz help me
[10:23] <rana> when i am trying to open any drive it open in VLC
[10:23] <nadav> is there any way I can capture packets going through my default gateway, or I can only do it from the local station
[10:24] <shiftingcontrol> i installed opensuse in same partion where ubuntu is installed the prob is now i m unable to log in into ubuntu,grub doesnot show the option at all
[10:25] <Gnea> rana: what?
[10:25] <terrenceTK> Hi all
[10:25] <lucent> nadav: interface in promiscuous mode will capture any unswitched packets on the local HUB but most network attachments are SWITCHED these days
[10:25] <rana> means it do not open in file browser
[10:25] <lucent> nadav: so in theory yes, in actuality you must be the gateway to have access to the packets going through it
[10:26] <Gnea> rana: perhaps you could re-state that, it still doesn't make any sense
[10:26] <lucent> nadav: 'wireshark' is able to capture some of the traffic that is visible
[10:26] <rana> ok
[10:26] <terrenceTK> Iḿ using Ubuntu 10.4, and have an s3 ViRGE dx -375 Screen card
[10:26] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: I believe that it serves the same purpose as any debian directory in a debian source package, but with the linux kernel / git you need to specify what branch the changes apply to. In this case, "master".
[10:27] <terrenceTK> Cannot set resolutions higher than 800X600 Can you help
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> !clone
[10:27] <rana> what happen when u click  on home to open it in place menu
[10:27] <Aga> hi
[10:27]  * Gnea is lost
[10:28] <Aga> ???
[10:28] <rana> it shows ur all files.
[10:28] <Gnea> rana: I have no idea what you're talking about. you really need to start over with what you're asking, and be specific about what you're talking about.
[10:28] <Gnea> rana: assume I have no idea what you're talking about (which I don't)
[10:28] <Kruptein> hey I can't install libreoffice on maverick :f I always get this error(s): http://dpaste.com/258777/
[10:28] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=smb/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commit;h=3ebd3729ce35b784056239131408b9a72b0288ef
[10:29] <rana> but when i click  on home to brouse it it opens with vlc player
[10:29] <Aga> I have Ubuntu. I like it very much. It`s the best OS that I have ever seen!
[10:29] <Gnea> rana: what are you using to browse file with?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> rana:  you some how set up 'folders' to open with VLC and not with the 'open folder' applocation.
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> rana:  you an do this by mistake if you right cliock on a folder and use the Open with .... dialog and select vlc. and DONT uncheck the 'make this the default'
[10:30] <terrenceTK> Hi all. Need help setting resolution over 800X600 for my s3virge schreen card
[10:30] <rana> oo
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> terrenceTK:  youmay want to check teh forums.. but every time ive seen 's3' mentioned.. its been a sad story.
[10:31] <g117> Hi there. please, could somebody advise me, how to back up playlists in rhythmbox, or at least, if it is possible?
[10:31] <Aga> I am a Finn.
[10:31] <raikonen_om> Is gconf-clenaer dangerous for system ? I saw the application on "Software Center". So should i trust it ?
[10:31] <terrenceTK> Thanks Dr_Willis - teh forums??
[10:31] <pksadiq> rana: Right click on any folder > Open with other application >select Open folder also click remember
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> g117:  should be possible. they are proberly in some .gnome or .applcations directory. but i dont know what one.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> !forums
[10:32] <tensorpudding> Aga: good for you?
[10:32] <rana> no no
[10:32] <g117> Dr_Willis: thx, I'll ask at the forums
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> g117:  better to 'search' the forums first. :) then ask...
[10:33] <terrenceTK> Dr_Willis: Thanks - the forums??
[10:33] <arvut__> where does firefox store the active session cache (if there is such thing) of all the open tabs?
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> terrenceTK:  S3 support is in a very sad state.
[10:34] <rana> i can open any folder by double click
[10:34] <Aga> the
[10:34] <terrenceTK> Thanks again
[10:34] <rana> but it whenever i tried to mount a drive 1st time it dosent work
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> BBl
[10:36] <m4l1qu3haq> help me
[10:36] <pksadiq> arvut__:  might be ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/Cache , I hope
[10:36] <rana> it mounted and opens with VLC instead of file browser
[10:36] <Jimu> is there a Linux or Open Source implementation of Fireworks?
[10:37] <ikonia> Jimu: not really, no
[10:38] <rana> PKSDIQ:THANKS PKSADIQ
[10:38] <rana> IT WORKES FINE
[10:38] <pksadiq> rana: Welcome
[10:38] <rana> THANKS
[10:38] <rana> THANKS A LOT
[10:38] <FloodBot3> rana: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <Gnea> rana: can you please turn off caps, thanks
[10:38] <pksadiq> rana: Enough don't flood
[10:38] <Jimu> is there a term that defines the way Fireworks allows manipulation of shapes and objects? Vector Graphics seems overly simplistic
[10:39] <raikonen_om> can someone tell me please if all on applications (which are on "software center") are stable as stable ?
[10:39] <airtonix> Jimu, thats all it is
[10:41] <Gnea> Okay, this is driving me up the wall: I've been trying, for weeks, to get Ubuntu desktop to install on a new computer I built: micro-itx with a dual-core P4, 4G ram, geforce 9300, onboard sound/ethernet/wifi - everytime it boots using the usb stick I made of Ubuntu Desktop 10.04.1 from usb-creator, the screen blanks on bootup, no matter what options I change. why and how can I fix this?
[10:41] <airtonix> Jimu, don't mistake what fireworks does as being SVG though.
[10:41] <sparky74> Gnea, what doesnt the X server log say?
[10:41] <Jimu> airtonix: yeah, it's quite different, as SVG is more a format
[10:41] <Gnea> sparky74: you don't understand, I can't get anything to display, at all
[10:41] <erUSUL> Gnea: use the alternate install
[10:41] <sparky74> it is probably a screen resolution issue related with the 9300 card
[10:41] <airtonix> Jimu, um.
[10:41] <pksadiq> raikonen_om: try searching alpha, beta etc, you might find some results, packages like wine etc, and so might not be stable
[10:41] <rana> one more problem frndz
[10:42] <Gnea> !alternate
[10:42] <airtonix> Jimu, it's also a concept.
[10:42] <ikonia> Gnea: ati card ?
[10:42] <sparky74> gnea, you will have to do a text mode install
[10:42] <Gnea> erUSUL: okay. I tried ubuntu server as well, but when I went to reinstall lately, it refuses to recognize the usb drive itself as a cdrom
[10:42] <pksadiq> raikonen_om:  any way to find the latest release, stable or unstable, search at launchpad.net
[10:43] <Gnea> ikonia: uh, yeah, that's the shiny new ATI geforce 9300 :p
[10:43] <airtonix> Jimu, to be honest I've used fireworks alot (i loved it). I now use inkscape instead.
[10:43] <Jimu> i'll grab inkscape, check it out
[10:43] <pksadiq> rana:  don't wait for someone , just ask, somebody will answer YOU
[10:43] <raikonen_om> pksadiq: ok. thank you!
[10:44] <ikonia> Gnea: game over
[10:44] <rana> when   my battery is full charge it shows a msg. that battery discharging 0.02 % left
[10:44] <rana> and then
[10:44] <Gnea> sparky74: that's basically what I figured I'd have to do, it's just annoying that Ubuntu claims to support all of this new hardware when, in fact, it fails so hard at it
[10:44] <airtonix> Gnea, did you confirm the chipset on the mobo is properly supported ?
[10:44] <pksadiq> raikonen_om:  Welcome, ---------------------Dreaming an Open source world---------------------------
[10:44] <airtonix> (north south etc)
[10:45] <Gnea> airtonix: it's nvidia, of course it's supported
[10:45] <Gnea> supposedly
[10:45] <ikonia> Gnea: not really ubuntu's fault on this occasion, the ati card is casuing problems for everyone
[10:45] <Gnea> ikonia: dude, read what I said: it's not an ATI card
[10:45] <pksadiq> rana: try to limit your question into a single line
[10:45] <ikonia> Gnea: ooh, sorry
[10:45] <rana> a msg system is going to suspend ,i cancel or ok it then it give msg failed to suspend
[10:45] <ikonia> Gnea: missed that
[10:45] <airtonix> Gnea, i just assumed since its a itx board that it might have one of those j micron controllers
[10:45] <Gnea> ikonia: 'geforce 9300' everyone knows who makes that.
[10:46] <ikonia> Gnea: didn't know if it was a new ati
[10:46] <Gnea> airtonix: oh, no. it's a zotrax
[10:46] <ikonia> Gnea: what point does it go blank ?
[10:46] <Gnea> ikonia: after the kernel loads and it attempts to switch to the desktop portion of the livecd
[10:46] <Gnea> I can't even get it to go to tty1
[10:47] <raikonen_om> someone can tell me if i copy my home directory to /root directory ? i wan tto use the programs with my user files when i use them with "sudo" ...
[10:47] <eaerth> has anyone gotten rgba support to work in maverick?
[10:47] <ikonia> Gnea: so its the starting of X, out of interst, does the caps lock light go on/off when it's black
[10:47] <barberan> hi THeRE
[10:47] <ikonia> raikonen_om: whoa, don't do that
[10:47] <airtonix> lulz
[10:47] <raikonen_om>  ikonia: why ?
[10:47] <ikonia> raikonen_om: what "programs" do you wnat ot use with sudo that's casuing you problems ?
[10:47] <raikonen_om>  ikonia:  iwa nt to use the users files also as root. or when  sign on system as root ... :(
[10:48] <Gnea> ikonia: sec
[10:48] <ech0s7> hi
[10:48] <ikonia> raikonen_om: ok, what files
[10:48] <ikonia> raikonen_om: explain what you're having a problem with
[10:48] <rana>  when   my battery is full charge it shows a msg. that battery discharging 0.02 % left then a msg appears system is going to suspend ,i cancel or ok it then it give msg failed to suspend
[10:48] <Gnea> ikonia: yeah, it does. keyboard becomes 100% unresponsive, although I *can* alt-sysrq-b
[10:48] <ech0s7> anyone that use wireshark can say me if it's possible to sniff the router traffic? not my pc traffic
[10:48] <raikonen_om>  ikonia: there is no problem on applications. but sometimes when i had to use a app as root. i wan tto use them with my user files to. so it is very nice...
[10:48] <ech0s7> ?
[10:48] <ikonia> Gnea: ok, I was curious if there was hidden panic/lockup
[10:48] <eaerth> ;\
[10:49] <Rusty149> ech0s7 use etherape
[10:49] <eaerth> i wish there were more ubuntu help channels. or more specific ones...
[10:49] <ikonia> raikonen_om: so either a.) use sudo -E or b.) point them at your "user" files, can you give me an example
[10:49] <ikonia> eaerth: there are plenty, what do you need help with ?
[10:49] <Gnea> ikonia: yeah, it just isn't playing right with the video
[10:49] <barberan> Who is synergy user ? I've some questions
[10:49] <ikonia> Gnea: can't remember the boot flag, but can you start it with vesa ?
[10:49] <raikonen_om>  ikonia: when i use sudo, the app uses roots conf files.
[10:49] <ikonia> raikonen_om: give me an example
[10:50] <eaerth> ikonia: i think i'm having trouble with compiz possibly an emerald problem. i'm trying to get rgba support in maverick and had a minor bug but it was fixed when i purged the repository for it - although one of the other small bugs is still there.
[10:50] <ikonia> eaerth: ok, first you know emerald is dead, yes ?
[10:51] <Gnea> ikonia: that's a thought... uhm, forgot the flag too lol
[10:51] <xebozone> my HDD is constantly making a noise. Is there a way to see what processes are using the HDD?
[10:51] <ikonia> Gnea: I can never remember it, although it should auto fall back
[10:51] <eaerth> ikonia: i hadn't known that but i can do without it - it's not really needed for rgba, i just enjoyed it in the last ubuntu release.
[10:51] <raikonen_om>  ikonia: for example when i want to change a file from filesystem i open "sudo nautilus".but nautilus setting always differerent. OR (this is more important) when i log on system as root i want to be the msae settings as my default user. that is the reason i ask you to copy all files to /root ... ?!
[10:51] <Gnea> erUSUL: having issues getting the alternate, I can't do bittorrent, it needs to be http or ftp, no exceptions.
[10:51] <trijntje_> xebozone, lsof
[10:51] <barberan> привет блядь
[10:51] <erUSUL> !download
[10:51] <ikonia> raikonen_om: your meant to use gksudo for graphical apps
[10:52] <airtonix> ><
[10:52] <parsec> Hello. Is there a way to limit connections to port 22 from certain MAC addresses?
[10:52] <airtonix> barberan, english please.
[10:52] <barberan> ok
[10:52] <ikonia> eaerth: thjat's fair enough, what's the issue with rgba
[10:52] <airtonix> barberan, what is the issue
[10:52] <ikonia> parsec: iptables can block on mac
[10:52] <barberan> I do not know English good enough to express all my minds clearly
[10:52] <raikonen_om> ikonia: first i wan to ask sometihng : when i open a program with sudo, it uses /root directory to look config files or /home/useratthemmoment ? and what is the different gksudo ?
[10:52] <soreau> eaerth: Get rid of those gtk ppa's
[10:52] <ikonia> barberan: what langauge do you speak
[10:53] <airtonix> barberan, perhaps a picture then ?
[10:53] <fsiemons> Hi, I just tryed to install the newest version of ubuntu, but there isnt any posibility in the partition tool to create lvm with encrypted Partitions
[10:53] <parsec> ikonia, do you know a good tutorial where I might find this info?
[10:53] <erUSUL> Gnea: where do you live? US http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ --> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/
[10:53] <Jimu> what's the Linux equiv. of Win Taskman?
[10:53] <ikonia> raikonen_om: gksudo perseerves your graphical environment
[10:53] <Jimu> or taskmgr
[10:53] <ikonia> parsec: tons on the net or "#netfilter" channel
[10:53] <parsec> ikonia, ok, thanks
[10:53] <soreau> eaerth: You're not going to gain much by having faulty ppa packages installed (hint: most all ppa repos are a bad idea)
[10:53] <eaerth> ikonia: basically, when i added a repo to get my windows to have transparencies, my desktop went white, as if there was a white layer above my wallpaper. although everything else is working fine and also my notification pop ups are chopped off on the left and bottom edges, not hte text, just the edge.
[10:53] <airtonix> Jimu, depends on the desktop environ you are in.
[10:53] <soreau> eaerth: Also, this channel only supports official packages
[10:54] <ikonia> eaerth: why do you need to add a repo for that, desktop effects already has transparcny effects
[10:54] <eaerth> soreau: hahaha, i already did. just troubleshooting basically, notification pop ups are still chopped off but the desktop went back to normal, wallpaper shows up again.
[10:54] <Jimu> command line tool?
[10:54] <airtonix> Jimu, and when you say linux you are referring to a kernel. just like when i say command.com instead of msdos
[10:54] <Gnea> erUSUL: got it, thanks :)
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> wow - empathy is a pretty IRC client. :) testing it out now.. havent tried it in ages.
[10:54] <soreau> eaerth: You probably removed the ppa but not the packages it installed
[10:54] <airtonix> Jimu, for CLI you can use top or htop
[10:54] <raikonen_om> ikonia: sorry but i did not understand... :( please just answer me when i open a program with "sudo" which directory it uses ?
[10:54] <fsiemons> Does anybody knows where the posibility is to install on a encrypted Partition
[10:54] <soreau> eaerth: Check something like ' dpkg -l|grep ppa'
[10:54] <barberan> Who is using Synergy program? I want to know how about once pressed button and multiaction. for example, If I'd like to backspace my text which consists of 30 signs, I have to press backspace button 30-times.
[10:54] <ikonia> raikonen_om: it depends on the applicaiton, which is why I asked for an example
[10:54] <Gnea> erUSUL: can't tell you how much I've missed a good kernel.org download... :)
[10:54] <ikonia> raikonen_om: give me examples of the applications your having problems with
[10:55] <airtonix> barberan, known bug
[10:55] <tx> hello
[10:55] <erUSUL> Gnea: ;)
[10:55] <tx> is it possible to make ubuntu works from netboot?
[10:55] <barberan> airtonix, so, there is nothing to do with that? ;)
[10:55] <airtonix> tx, yes
[10:55] <Gnea> tx: yes.
[10:55] <ikonia> tx: sure is
[10:55] <tx> and where i can read about it? some howto?
[10:55] <eaerth> ikonia: transparent desktop effects have have transparent nautilus windows and such then? if so i couldn't figure out how to activate it...
[10:55] <raikonen_om> ikonia: it depends on application. oh i did not know that... so please tell me which directory use when i log on system as root ?
[10:55] <airtonix> barberan, unfortunatly no, not until they fix it
[10:55] <eaerth> soreau: i'll try that
[10:55] <ikonia> eaerth: ahhh, ok, fair point
[10:55] <packshaud> fsiemons, i think you need the alternative cd to install on encrypted partitions
[10:55] <airtonix> tx, i usually use google
[10:55] <barberan> airtonix, thank you man
[10:55] <eaerth> soreau: haha, didn't think you were awake!
[10:55] <ikonia> raikonen_om: you don't login to the system as root - the root account is disabled
[10:56] <ikonia> raikonen_om: I'll ask one more time, tell me the programs you are having problems with
[10:56] <tx> airtonix, me to, bunt only what i've found is abount some USB devices, not netbood ;/
[10:56] <soreau> eaerth: I'm not. Just a figment of your imagination
[10:56] <fsiemons> packshaud: its not in the normal install cd? Isnt that a normal requirement?
[10:56] <tx> but*
[10:56]  * soreau floats away
[10:56] <Jimu> airtonix: what term should be used for the large set of Unix-based open/free environments?
[10:56] <airtonix> tx, you need to use the keyword PXE
[10:56] <eaerth> soreau: very sneaky.
[10:56] <soreau> ;)
[10:56] <packshaud> i'm not sure... i used the alternative cd and it was there
[10:56] <tx> airtonix, ok, thanks
[10:56] <airtonix> Jimu, i think may refer that as *nix
[10:56] <ujju> hello
[10:56] <crawler> ok..i need some help.  i put in a cd with some pictures on it and if i switch to another user account on this laptop, the disc is not mounted and completely inaccessible from the other account.  any ideas?  i'im using 10.10
[10:57] <airtonix> Jimu, here we just refer to ubuntu
[10:57] <ujju> i am trying to load ubuntu in my virtual pc console
[10:57] <Jimu> thx, airtonix, noted
[10:57] <ikonia> crawler: sounds like the cd is mounted in user space and still locked by the other in use user
[10:57] <Jordan_U> fsiemons: You can do home directory encryption from the standard Desktop CD.
[10:57] <raikonen_om> ikonia: i just wan tto learn. there is no problem on me. i can log in on system as root ? i open this feature from settings of accounts... but when i log on, which directory it use as config files ? (i mean as home directory ? )
[10:57] <ujju> but it got stuck at 40%
[10:57] <sangho> how can i switch the right Shift key to End key?
[10:57] <airtonix> tx, like this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[10:57] <ikonia> rakyou cannot and should not login to the system as root
[10:57] <fsiemons> Jordan_U: that isnt very secure when the swap  isnt encrypted
[10:58] <crawler> ikona: thanks for the reply, is there any way around this??  because the only way i can access it from the second account is by rebooting it seems
[10:58] <ikonia> raikonen_om: cannot and should not login to the system as root
[10:58] <ikonia> !root > raikonen_om
[10:58] <ikonia> raikonen_om: those urls should help you learn/understand
[10:58] <Jordan_U> fsiemons: That's why enabling that option also causes the installer to configure encrypted swap :)
[10:58] <ikonia> !sudo > raikonen_om
[10:58] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <fsiemons> So nobody has thought about security
[10:58] <fsiemons> am I right?
[10:58] <ikonia> raikonen_om: thek the private messages from the ub ubuntu bot, ubottu
[10:58] <Jimu> also, airtonix, inkscape is exactly what i was looking for. nice!
[10:58] <airtonix> tx: http://www.techienote.com/2010/06/pxe-booting-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html
[10:58] <ikonia> fsiemons: you need to use the alternative install cd for that
[10:59] <tx> airtonix, hmm ubuntu will work without hdd on local machine?
[10:59] <ujju> hey,anyone there to help me?
[10:59] <airtonix> Jimu, just be aware that on anything slower than a core duo it can get pretty bogged down. (its not overly optimized)
[10:59] <fsiemons> ikonia: ok so I will search for it.
[10:59] <ikonia> fsiemons: it's on ubuntu.com
[10:59] <Gnea> ikonia: so yeah, I found that vga=814 option and gave that a shot - NOW it's not locking up like it was, but it's still not displaying anything on the screen, numlock and scrolllock work, but now the caps lock key is not working
[10:59] <airtonix> Jimu, although i get away with doing graphic design on a atom-n280 1.6ghz
[10:59] <elit3m1ke> i install kde on ubuntu but it wont appear in gdm, any idea whats up?
[10:59] <fsiemons> What I have found is that I need this when my System dosnt meet the requirements
[11:00] <JosefAssad> quick question. If I get an external screen for my laptop which is on 10.04, is it a lot of work to get a desktop spanning 2 screens?
[11:00] <ikonia> Gnea: time for the bug logging, that sound annoying
[11:00] <ikonia> fsiemons: what ?
[11:00] <airtonix> tx, maybe, if you change the iso used by the pxe server to create a 4gb ramdisk
[11:00] <Gnea> ikonia: I can also ctrl-alt-del it now
[11:00] <raikonen_om> ikonia: i can log on system as root : look here to pictures : http://www.gelecekonline.com/metin/ubuntu_10_04_de_root_olarak_oturum_acma
[11:00] <Gnea> ikonia: I'd log it if I could get at it
[11:00] <airtonix> tx: this is another guide that might help : http://www.serenux.com/2010/05/howto-setup-your-own-pxe-boot-server-using-ubuntu-server/
[11:00] <ikonia> raikonen_om: that will make your system unsupportible
[11:00] <ikonia> raikonen_om: that breaks the ubuntu security model
[11:01] <ugliefrog> i lost my memenu dont see ti in the add to panel...whats it called
[11:01] <ikonia> Gnea: just log it on launchpad, it's a drawn out process without the bug logging tool, I accept that
[11:01] <raikonen_om> ikonia: i know. i know. i just wan tot lears. which directory it use as home folder ?
[11:01] <ikonia> raikonen_om: your system is unsupported now, please contact that article owner for support
[11:01] <Gnea> ikonia: okay
[11:01] <ikonia> Gnea: sorry, know it's a drag
[11:01] <Gnea> going to try the alternate iso now
[11:01] <Gnea> ikonia: could be worse :)
[11:01] <fsiemons> I found my mistake, on the web page that explains the alernate CD the details only describes that its for System whith lower Performance
[11:02] <fsiemons> But I just download the alternate installer
[11:02] <ikonia> fsiemons: show me the link
[11:02] <zetheroo> has "Software Sources" been removed from 10.10?
[11:02] <ikonia> zetheroo: hidden now, hang on there is a factoid
[11:02] <fsiemons> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[11:02] <ikonia> !softsources
[11:02] <xebozone> my HDD sounds like it is constantly busy. Is there a way to see what's accessing it? I don't think 'lsof
[11:02] <ikonia> zetheroo: good guess, there you go
[11:02] <xebozone> '
[11:02] <xebozone> is the answer
[11:02] <fsiemons> The benefit of the alternate will be, that it has the normal textbased Installer
[11:02] <elit3m1ke> i installed kde on ubuntu but it wont appear in gdm, any idea whats up??
[11:02] <ikonia> fsiemons: yes ?
[11:02] <zetheroo> ikonia: ok thanks
[11:03] <raikonen_om> ikonia: i know it is unspported.  but i need to know which directory it use as home folder. i don't ask for any help or any problem here... there is no support here on my question...
[11:03] <ikonia> raikonen_om: then if you know it's unsupported, why are you in a support channel asking for help
[11:03] <ugliefrog> i lost my memenu dont see ti in the add to panel...whats it called
[11:03] <ikonia> raikonen_om: please contact that article owner for support, your system is not supported
[11:03] <matematikaadit> debuntu
[11:03] <fsiemons> This installation CD is suited for computers unable to run the graphical desktop based
[11:03] <ikonia> fsiemons: it is
[11:03] <fsiemons> but thanks a lot I will try the installer cd now
[11:04] <JosefAssad> quick question. If I get an external screen for my laptop which is on 10.04, is it a lot of work to get a desktop spanning 2 screens?
[11:05] <nibbler_> hey, the new unr is amazing (and quiet easy to reach starting with a standard desktop)
[11:06] <tx> ok, another one :<
[11:07] <tx> i've got some intel graphic card ( on board ), and installed xserver-xorg-video-intel installed, but it doesn't seems that ubuntu know that this card even exists - it uses some default VGA driver for it - how can i fix it?
[11:07] <raikonen_om> ikonia: you write me 10 centence , you could write me in one of your centences 1 directory it was enough. thank you!
[11:07] <i_am_deviant> meh!!
[11:08] <ikonia> raikonen_om: stop asking for support
[11:09] <amby> hey
[11:09] <i_am_deviant> ikonia: are you that ikonia from #solaris ?? i din't know that you're collaborant :p
[11:09] <ikonia> i_am_deviant: on occasion
[11:09] <amby> i am looking for bigbrovar
[11:10] <ikonia> amby: he's not in this channel, check out freenode.net on how to use irc
[11:10] <amby> pls how can i get there?
[11:10] <amby> i'm new to this
[11:10] <ikonia> amby: open a web brownser and surf to www.freenode.net to learn how to use irc
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> amby:  if hes on this server under taht nick You can /msg HISNICK Somemessage
[11:11] <shiftingcontrol> in /boot im unable to find vmlinuz.gz
[11:11] <Goog_Josh> good day, tell me please, how to set up samba to share linux resources?
[11:11] <shiftingcontrol> what to do nw?/
[11:11] <amby> thanks
[11:12] <ikonia> shiftingcontrol: have you deleted it ?
[11:12] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Thank you for helping me to get sorted out the function of the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.35/debian.master/ .
[11:12] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: You're welcome.
[11:12] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[11:12] <Umeaboy> Does Ubuntu have a Net boot-iso.
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !samba | Goog_Josh
[11:12] <Umeaboy> ......?
[11:12] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: Yes.
[11:13] <Jordan_U> !netboot | Umeaboy
[11:13] <Umeaboy> Jordan_U: OK.
[11:13] <greenmang0> !automate
[11:13] <metatagg> hi guys! I was connected to a box via ssh, and i pulled the power cable from my client
[11:14] <nibbler_> metatagg, so?
[11:14] <metatagg> any way to connect to the same ssh-session?
[11:14] <Goog_Josh> thanks a lot
[11:14] <shiftingcontrol> i installed opensuse as same partion as ubuntu 9.10 resides now boot manager doesnot shw the option for booting ubuntu
[11:14] <Jordan_U> metatagg: Only if you were using screen (which you probably weren't).
[11:14] <nibbler_> metatagg, nope. but change your shell to /usr/bin/screen, so u can do this the next time
[11:14] <metatagg> i guessed ´so
[11:15] <metatagg> damn
[11:15] <metatagg> sry 4 swearing
[11:15] <metatagg> :)
[11:15] <metatagg> thnx anyway
[11:15] <Umeaboy> Jordan_UB: Can't seem to find it.
[11:15] <Umeaboy> I thought it was called boot.iso like in Mandriva.
[11:16] <Jordan_U> Umeaboy: No, it's also known as the "minimal CD" or "mini.iso".
[11:16] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Umeaboy
[11:18] <guzu> ikonia, the upgrade completed successfuly. thank you
[11:18] <mehranhu> Is there any loop that i can run in terminal to set CHMOD of every file in a directory and all subdirectories
[11:19] <djogli> hi, is there a way to disable key on keyboard, but not under X (with xmodmap) but also in terminal, im using xubuntu 10.04, i think it applies here too
[11:19] <guzu> mehranhu, chmod -R ?
[11:19] <Jordan_U> metatagg: "chmod -R" but be verry carefull when using it.
[11:19] <mehranhu> carefull in the sence?
[11:20] <SaRy> title      Ubuntu 9.04 booting via symlinks
[11:20] <SaRy> root       (hd0,8)
[11:20] <SaRy> kernel     /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda9 ro quiet splash
[11:20] <SaRy> initrd     /initrd.img  .. Of course, adjust the partition [sda9 / hd(0,8)] to your situation. For full information go here http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susebootubuntu.html
[11:20] <FloodBot3> SaRy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> -R does recursive. that may not be what you want... in all cases.
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> !permissions
[11:20] <SaRy> Opps wrong window !
[11:20] <mehranhu> floodbot3: hmm Thx
[11:21] <piko> Hi, I am seeking for some help with installation of my modem device (probably intel according to motherboard). I have no idea how thi work in ubuntu. Could anyone give a hint?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> piko:  you are refering to an actual DIALUP modem?
[11:21] <piko> yes
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !dialup
[11:21] <piko> Dr_Willis, not adsl, but dialup
[11:22] <Benkinooby> some1 is having experience with ubuntu 10.04 and HDMI?
[11:22] <Benkinooby> just want to know if i should avoid it or can go with it without fear
[11:22] <piko> Dr_Willis, thanks, I will check it
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> HDMI video should work. but HDMI audio over the same cable. may or may not work,  depends on the chipsets.
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> I think 10.10 has better support in that area
[11:23] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis, this is what i read too. i was wondering if some1 allready tried it him/herself
[11:23] <oxicarus> i have ubuntu with lamp-server. now, is there any (easy) way so that when you 'adduser' a new person to the system, then he also gets a mysql user account? per default i need to specifically create the mysql user :/ would be awesome if system and mysql accounts could be 'linked' :D
[11:23] <Artiom_Fiodorov> anyone knows how to fix lirc in 10.10?
[11:24] <xebozone> yeah im also having problems with lirc :(
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> oxicarus:  make a script that calls adduser, then the commands for the rest of the stuff you wan to setup.
[11:24] <Artiom_Fiodorov> do you have any irw output?
[11:25] <xebozone> lirc_serial won't start
[11:25] <Jordan_U> SaRy: A better way to boot Ubuntu from another distribution's grub legacy is to use an entry with "root (hdX,Y); multiboot /boot/grub/core.img" (where ';' is replaced with a newline).
[11:25] <matematikaadit> how to join ubuntu?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> matematikaadit:  you are in #ubuntu now
[11:26] <matematikaadit> how to join ubuntu comunity?
[11:26] <oxicarus> Dr_Willis: i see, thats how i need to do it. there's no predefined setting or suchlike for it?
[11:26] <SaRy> Jordan_U, Thanks , i'll pass it through.
[11:26] <bazhang> !contribute > matematikaadit
[11:26] <Jordan_U> SaRy: You're welcome.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> oxicarus:  not that ive ever noticed.  Ive done similer scripts for samba passwords.
[11:27] <Jordan_U> SaRy: Sorry, replace "multiboot" with "kernel". So "title foo; root (hdX,Y); kernel /boot/grub/core.img".
[11:27] <SaRy> Jordan_U, np at all .. Noted.
[11:28] <Underoath> "yawn"
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> watching a new 10.10 system install... i enabled the 3rd party repos. and updates to begin with.. I think i just saw it install flash and java by default.. or am i seeing things.. :)
[11:29] <k0nN3c739> hi, someone know how to get older versione of foo2 printer drivers?
[11:29] <SaRy> Dr_Willis, good news.
[11:29] <k0nN3c739> because in the webssite there's only a foo2.tar.gz file, LOL
[11:29] <nadav> my sound sounds really bad
[11:29] <k0nN3c739> they overwrite this file every new version
[11:30] <nadav> with ubunutu
[11:30] <nadav> why is that?
[11:30] <vitthal> hi..
[11:30] <Benkinooby> nadav, what do you mean by "bad"?
[11:30] <anna__> nadav: bad quality?
[11:30] <Benkinooby> Benkinooby, ?
[11:31] <nadav> yeah, bad quality, I hear a little bit of white noise in the background
[11:31] <k0nN3c739> nadav, maybe it's the mic enabled?
[11:31] <k0nN3c739> try to play with the mixer
[11:31] <Benkinooby> nadav, maybe you have to go down with some of the boosters like the one for mic
[11:31] <i_am_deviant> nadav: do you have a cat?
[11:31] <nadav> I dont have any mic
[11:31] <nadav> lol. no :P
[11:31] <i_am_deviant> nadav: or any other pet?
[11:31] <i_am_deviant> they should do
[11:32] <anna__> lol
[11:32] <Benkinooby> nadav, use the terminal to start 'alsamixer' or 'alsamixergui' if you prefer gui interface
[11:32] <Gnea> hm
[11:33] <no--name> hmm. It appears my virtual terminal is now purple. How do I get it back to black?
[11:33] <nadav> well its a little better after I tuned down the alsa mixer abi
[11:33] <nadav> t
[11:33] <Benkinooby> no--name, preferences
[11:33] <oxicarus> ty Dr_Willis :)
[11:34] <Slipknot6669> Well reloading the previous version seems to have worked, but I do believe my hard drive is the problem.
[11:34] <k0nN3c739> where can I find lucid .deb packages?
[11:34] <Benkinooby> nadav, pay special attention to the booster mixers. they cause some white noise... at least at my place
[11:35] <Slipknot6669> I got error messages about several bad sectors upon install reboot.
[11:35] <Gnea> erUSUL: and it's going through the packages now :)
[11:35] <nadav> thanks Benkinooby :-)
[11:35] <k0nN3c739> ok found
[11:35] <Benkinooby> nadav, it worked?
[11:35] <nadav> yeah
[11:36] <no--name> Benkinooby: where are preferences? I'm talking about when you press ctrl+f<number>, not gnome-terminal.
[11:36] <xebozone> my HDD sounds like it is constantly busy. Is there a way to see what's accessing it? I don't think 'lsof' is the answer (as suggested), unless I'm using it wrong?
[11:36] <Benkinooby> no--name, oh sorry, i missunderstood you
[11:36] <no--name> ok
[11:36] <nadav> my earphones died last night during my jogging, now Im cruising for some new ones from deal extreme
[11:37] <nadav> any recommendations?
[11:37] <xebozone> nadav: wrong support channel...lol but I have creative EP-630s. They are great!
[11:38] <nadav> :P
[11:38] <irul> aduh pakek BAHASA APA
[11:38] <bazhang> !id | irul
[11:38] <parsec> ikonia, I tried one tutorial and apparently added a rule, but I can't find it in the iptables --list output
[11:39] <hohohoho> hahahha
[11:39] <hohohoho> irul bingung
[11:40] <hohohoho> whats the new great feature on ubuntu 10.10
[11:40] <hohohoho> ?
[11:40] <irul> gimana cara makek nya niiiiiiiii
[11:40] <menoir> hi
[11:41] <Gnea> irul: english?
[11:41] <hohohoho> irul : pake bahasa inggris rul kalo chat
[11:41] <xebozone> hohohoho: there is no "one" great feature. Check the changelog
[11:41] <i_am_deviant> hohohoho: probably it could boot in very rare cases
[11:41] <xebozone> i_am_deviant: hahaha
[11:41] <nadav> what is a good way to scan my ubuntu for virus or other malicious entity?
[11:41] <hohohoho> xebozone : so whats the different?
[11:42] <xebozone> hohohoho: it has a new background
[11:42] <Gnea> !id | irul, hohohoho
[11:42] <hohohoho> i_am_deviant : can you explain that?
[11:42] <irul> aku gk bisa pakek bhasa inggrisss
[11:42] <Gnea> !english | irul, hohohoho
[11:43] <Benkinooby> no--name, hm, no clue about the backgrond color :/
[11:43] <xebozone> does anybody else get constant HDD activity with 10.10?
[11:43] <no--name> I'm getting "modprobe: fatal: could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/modules.dep: no such file or directory" in tty1 everytime I turn ubuntu on.
[11:43] <xukun> what do I need to install so I can paly youtube trailers and such on ubuntu 10.04?
[11:43] <no--name> Benkinooby: I restarted and it's black again so it was an error I guess, not a change by Ubuntu.
[11:43] <Benkinooby> ok
[11:44] <nadav> what is a good way to scan my ubuntu for virus or other malicious entity?
[11:44] <coz_> nadav,  well...there are seveeral things that can be done...one  clamav   and the other rkhunter
[11:44] <i_am_deviant> hohohoho: yes .. when you turn on computer, hardware firmware (oftenly reffered as a bios or PROM) initializes devices and then pass initiative to operating system which lives in RAM .. operating system has to boot up and MM is now able to do so in rare cases out-of-box
[11:45] <coz_> nadav,  you want to install clamav front end as well    let me find the name of that
[11:45] <nadav> which would you recommend? and should I be worried? is ubuntu proned to attack?
[11:45] <xebozone> xukun: probably the g-streamer plugins and the medibuntu plugins
[11:45] <xukun> xebozone, ok thanks
[11:45] <airtonix> nadav, it will now that more novice users start using ubuntu and ask how to turn off sudo
[11:46] <nadav> lol ^_^
[11:46] <airtonix> -_-
[11:46] <coz_> nadav,   first  no  ubuntu is not attacked  but   I usually install both  clamav and rkhunter  just to play with :)
[11:46] <coz_> navap,  the front end to clamav is clamtk
[11:46] <coz_> navap,  for gnome or klamav  for kde
[11:47] <xebozone> for the one that wanted to change console colors, it's in the preferences
[11:47] <coz_> navap,   rkhunter is terminal based utility
[11:47] <airtonix> nadav, you also have some daemons for clam that scan files on access
[11:47] <Gnea> ikonia, erUSUL: if you're still around, I'm having the same problem I had with ubuntu-server: http://imagebin.org/118764
[11:47] <nadav> airtonix, im a fresh ubuntu user, used linux before
[11:47] <nadav> i mean windows
[11:47] <nadav> what is the windows equilivent for daemons? applications? :P
[11:48] <irul> gimana ni ngrubah kebahasa indonesia
[11:48] <xebozone> nadav: windows has daemons too
[11:48] <airtonix> nadav, yeah well your mileage may vary i used windows for ten years without a virus scanner, never had any problems. and everyone i dealth with never reported i gave them virus
[11:48] <tensorpudding> nadav: Windows Services
[11:48] <Gnea> !id | irul
[11:48] <irul> dancooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:48] <Gnea> irul: I won't say it again.
[11:48] <hohohoho> !id | irul
[11:48] <nadav> aha, so a daemon is a service
[11:48] <irul> asuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[11:48] <Gnea> nadav: pretty much
[11:48] <nadav> and I know airtonix, I wasnt using antivirus either, just a firewall
[11:48] <Gnea> !ot | irul
[11:49] <xebozone> nadav: you could say that
[11:49] <tensorpudding> A lot of Windows network stuff are handled through IIS, which iirc is handled as a service.
[11:49] <coz_> navap,     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28computer_software%29
[11:49] <tensorpudding> This knowledge is from XP though, they might have changed it.
[11:49] <airtonix> nadav, there are small differences. a service leans more to being something that touches the ports on your network device, a daemon simply sits in memory and does stuff
[11:49] <irul> kampang kabeh koe bajingan ragelem dudoi
[11:49] <xebozone> well said
[11:50] <nadav> I see
[11:50] <airtonix> nadav, but daemons and services both watch for things
[11:50] <nadav> what is that: 6001/tcp open  X11:1
[11:50] <erUSUL> Gnea: sorry; never seen that error myself ....
[11:51] <nadav> whenever I see the name moose I think of moose schrute from the office
[11:51] <airtonix> nadav, http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/241/show-which-programs-are-listening-on-tcp-and-udp-ports
[11:51] <nadav> ty
[11:52] <navyseal> hello
[11:52] <navyseal> i need some help with a tvcard
[11:52] <navyseal> tvtime keeps associating my usb webcam as a default
[11:52] <navyseal> i want to change that to the pci card
[11:52] <rana> hello all
[11:53] <airtonix> navyseal, interesting. enter key is not a form of punctuation by the way.
[11:54] <terrenceTK> Hi all
[11:54] <Gnea> erUSUL: I'm seeing it on previous versions of ubuntu in the bug tracker, as far back as 6.10.  I used usb-creator-gtk, so I guess I'll try unetbootin next
[11:54] <airtonix> navyseal, you need to investigate the manual page for tvtime
[11:55] <terrenceTK> TVtime doesn detect my tvtuner, but its listed in lshw
[11:55] <erUSUL> Gnea: good luck then
[11:55] <nadav> hmmph
[11:55] <airtonix> terrenceTK, same as what i just told navyseal
[11:55] <Gnea> terrenceTK: tvtime doesn't support every tv tuner
[11:55] <nadav> am I doing something wrong here? I started a VNC server using: vncserver -httpport 3081, but when I do nmap localhost I get that the port is open on a completly diffrent port
[11:55] <terrenceTK> I know it supports this one
[11:55] <Bucky2090> trying to remaster a livecd (10.10)
[11:56] <terrenceTK> Used on another pc
[11:56] <Gnea> terrenceTK: what is it?
[11:56] <Bucky2090> anyone know how to get rid of the Welcome screen?
[11:56] <airtonix> terrenceTK, navyseal make sure your card is listed here http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/cards.html
[11:56] <navyseal> i'm used a tv card based on cx88
[11:56] <terrenceTK> BT878
[11:56] <Bucky2090> i just want the livecd to boot without having to click on "Try Ubuntu"
[11:57] <airtonix> navyseal, did you read the link for cx88 on that page i listed... the rest of the research is up to you now.
[11:57] <navyseal> yes
[11:58] <nadav> am I doing something wrong here? I started a VNC server using: vncserver -httpport 3081, but when I do nmap localhost I get that the port is open on a completly diffrent port
[11:58] <terrenceTK> Heres the lshw output -
[11:58] <terrenceTK> -multimedia:0
[11:58] <terrenceTK>        description: Multimedia video controller
[11:58] <terrenceTK>        product: Bt878 Video Capture
[11:58] <terrenceTK>        vendor: Brooktree Corporation
[11:58] <terrenceTK>        physical id: 2
[11:58] <FloodBot3> terrenceTK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <navyseal> lspci detects the tv card
[11:59] <navyseal> 03:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[11:59] <tx> hm, it seems, that i'm after FS crash, it is fixed now, but kubuntu can't boot anymore... is there any recovery mode in kubuntu live cd which can repair my os?
[12:02] <terrenceTK> Can I reload the BTTV modules - I recall that worked some time, but forgot how to
[12:02] <nadav> my sound isnt working again, what can it be?
[12:03] <yakoza> hi
[12:03] <nadav> not again, I mean this time its completly not working
[12:03] <yakoza> i'm using ubuntu 10.04
[12:03] <yakoza> i wanna use vpn
[12:03] <pksadiq> terrenceTK: I feel it's modprobe bttv
[12:03] <chalcedony>   my husband has photographs on 3 drives (i think that's what he's showing me) but one is giving an error: Could not load image, failed to open input stream for file (filename) they say .JPG .. no filename
[12:03] <Gnea> !vpn | yakoza
[12:03] <terrenceTK> pksadiq: Thanks
[12:04] <yakoza> i've connected to in the internet with gprs
[12:04] <nadav> anyone got a clue why my sound suddenly stopped working?
[12:04] <yakoza> and with gprs i have to use l2tp connection
[12:05] <djogli> hi, is there a way to disable key on keyboard, but not under X (with xmodmap) but also in terminal, im using xubuntu 10.04, anyone knows how to solve this?
[12:05] <nadav> wierd, its working on my computer but not on firefox
[12:05] <yakoza> how can i make a l2tpd connection on ubuntu?
[12:07] <amin_> i want to unmount all of my usb ntfs-hard drives in terminal what should I do?
[12:07] <chalcedony> Dr_Willis, good morning :)
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Moo! :)
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> just did a clean install of 10.10 on my old box. testing it out now.
[12:08] <Cojage> did they fix the nvidia drivers yet
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> I still had to beat them in the head Cojage
[12:09] <pksadiq> gnome-ter
[12:09] <yakoza> how can i make a l2tpd connection on ubuntu?
[12:09] <amin_> i want to unmount all of my usb ntfs-hard drives in terminal what should I do?
[12:09] <pksadiq> sorry wrong place
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> On my 2 nvidia systems I have to use the 'nomodeset' option to get to a useable desktopp/system. then isntall the nvidia-current drivers
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> amin_:  sudo umount mountpointtheyareuysing
[12:10] <Cojage> oh willis
[12:10] <Cojage> ill stick with .04 then
[12:10] <Cojage> or perhaps mint :o
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Cojage:  i had the same issues in .04
[12:10] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> so if i want to install ubuntus home dir on a seperate partition i just manually create the partitions and make one "/" partition and one "/home" partition?
[12:10] <Cojage> oh
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  yep.
[12:10] <Cojage> i dont apperanlty
[12:10] <amin_> Dr_Willis: does this cd /media && rm -rf *^C
[12:10] <amin_>  works
[12:10] <geist> Tigger_Yum-Yum: yep
[12:11] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> is there any performace or security incentive to having /home on its own partition?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> amin_:  you dont want to do that..  that will erase stuff on teh disks..
[12:11] <pksadiq> !danger
[12:11] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> or performance or security lack?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  its easier to update/upgrade later.
[12:11] <Muffie> hello all. I've been trying to make xps m1210 Broadcom BCM4321 to work on 10.10 with no success. Anyone can help? I have already installed ndiswrapper
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  i keep my /home on uits own aprtition. OR better yet. On its own hard drive.
[12:12] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> ive heard that willis im just wondering if there are any other benefits
[12:12] <UltimateTerabyte> hi, i've plugged in a panasonic usb printer, but for some reason ubuntu doesn't detect it when i go to "printing". What should I do?
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  i think keeping your users data safer then just on 1 hd. :) is a good benifit.
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  on a 2nd hd would be faster i imagine also.. but thats not if both are on the same HD.
[12:13] <ibrahim-kasem> I am trying to install the amd64 bit alternate using a flash disc, but at third step "Detect and mount cd rom" no cd can be detected because i am using flash disc!
[12:13] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i only have one internal hd though... im talking about partitons here not drives :P
[12:13] <Muffie> anyone? ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.56-3_i386.deb
[12:13] <Muffie> I've been trying to make xps m1210 Broadcom BCM4321 to work on 10.10 with no success. Anyone can help? I have already installed ndiswrapper
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  and how big is this HD?
[12:13] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> and i backup everything externally so hd failure isnt a concern for me
[12:13] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> its a 1TB Dr_Willis
[12:13] <greenmang0> why doesn't  /tmp get emptied after reboot?
[12:14] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i have a 1TB internal and 1TB external
[12:14] <Gnea> greenmang0: it doesn't?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  on my one system HD i got a /boot/ of like 4gb, (yes i have a reason for that)  / of about 20gb  a swap, and rest is /home
[12:14] <greenmang0> Gnea: i am experiencing this problem since last 1 year
[12:14] <Gnea> greenmang0: that's rather... wrong. what's staying behind?
[12:15] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> why seperate boot and why such a big swap Dr_Willis?
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> My swap is only 1 gb.
[12:15] <Dr_Willis>  /boot/ is 4=GB because i keep ISO files there that GRUB2 can boot.
[12:15] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> you said 20
[12:15] <Dr_Willis>  / of about 20gb
[12:15] <ForgeAus> having a wubi problem (with kubuntu but nobody is answering there) I think its something to do with the lvm part of the system ... the error it gives me when I go to virtual terminal (ie control+alt+f1) is /scripts/init-premount/lvm2: line39: add_mountroot_fail_hook: not found (then it fails to mount /dev/sda2, /dev /sys and /proc... then it says, Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. No init found. Try passing init= bootarg. )
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> I dident give swaps size...
[12:15] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> oh
[12:15] <pksadiq> greenmang0: if it doesn't you may add sudo rm /tmp/* & in the file /etc/rc.local
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> I always put a 512mb or 1gb swap partition on most every HD on the systems :)
[12:16] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> so home seperation is just to help upgrade...
[12:16] <Gnea> ForgeAus: lvm is problematic. have you tried booting with init=/bin/sh ?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm the 10.10 installer DID install flash it seems..
[12:16] <ForgeAus> gnea no I don't know how to
[12:16] <goshawk> is anybody experiencing problems with blueman on maverick + DUM support? when i try to use it it says "device added but failed to connect"
[12:17] <greenmang0> Gnea: http://sprunge.us/KJGD
[12:17] <greenmang0> pksadiq: ^^
[12:17] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: did you ask it to?
[12:17] <Gnea> ForgeAus: ah, you'll need to first go to the ntfs menu and select ubuntu, then edit the first selection of the grub menu and add to the kernel line:  init=/bin/sh
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  i checked the enable 3party repos. and install updates, at the beginning.. that seems to have included flash and some other stuff automatically
[12:17] <UltimateTerabyte> when i try to print a test page it says "the test page has been printed" but nothing comes out of the printer. i'm using the GDI driver and it's a panasonic KX-MB2000
[12:17] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: awesome:D
[12:17] <pksadiq> greenmang0:  file lists in /tmp ?
[12:18] <ForgeAus> gnea, that I think I might be able to do
[12:18] <greenmang0> Gnea: TMPTIME=0 in /etc/default/rcS
[12:18] <stuie> ers
[12:18] <greenmang0> Dr_sadiq: yeah
[12:18] <nkour> hello, in statup preferences I want for example to enable Gnome Do but it is shown as disabled (cannot click on it). any ideas? 10.10
[12:18] <ForgeAus> (btw gnea busybox - or if you like recovery mode - works)
[12:19] <Gnea> ForgeAus: recovery mode is a bit different than a read-only shell
[12:19] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> which window manager do you use Dr_Willis?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  ust using GNOME for now..
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Been testing out Lubuntu lately. Its gotten very nice.
[12:19] <ForgeAus> where does the init line go in the grub entry?
[12:19] <ForgeAus> does it matter?
[12:19] <nkour> oh, it's UI bug..
[12:19] <nkour> kthxbye
[12:19] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> ive not been very happy with gome or kde im thinking about trying a 64 bit xfce distro
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> You can install xfce over ubuntu and try it out..
[12:20] <ForgeAus> Tigger, englightenmenti s another option
[12:20] <pksadiq> greenmang0: so append rm -R /tmp/* & to the file /etc/rc.local this file will be automatically executed at startup
[12:20] <no--name> I want to go $ alias lsc="ls --color <folder> | cat", where <folder> can be typed after lsc, how would I do that?
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> I dont see what the others offer thats not in gnome , or kde really
[12:20] <ForgeAus> but if you odn't like Gnome then you probably aren't going to find XFCE much more enjoyable (although it is liter)
[12:20] <no--name> so e.g. ls --color Downloads | cat
[12:20] <Terabyte> I've got a new printer, I plugged the printer in, and followed the (ubuntu) wizard that came up, i installed generic driver and GDI, when i try to print a test page it says "the test page has been printed" but nothing comes out of the printer. i'm using the GDI driver and it's a panasonic KX-MB2000. Any ideas?
[12:20] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> ive heard xfce is better performance wise Dr_Willis
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> no--name:  bash command line arguemtns  I think you want to use $1
[12:21] <pksadiq> greenmang0:  but before the line exit 0
[12:21] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> if it wont be pretty either way it might as well be fast
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  you have a rather low end system?
[12:21] <ForgeAus> tigger, you want performance/liteness, use fluxbox! lol
[12:21] <Gnea> greenmang0: o.O
[12:21] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i dont want barebones but i dont want something thats sluggish and still ugly
[12:21] <ForgeAus> but really KDE is far more functional (gnome is too but I personally don't like gnome much)
[12:21] <greenmang0> Gnea: why doesn't TMPTIME=0 doesn't work?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Functions > looks
[12:22] <no--name> Dr_Willis: so $ alias lsc="ls --color $1 | cat", and then e.g. lsc ~/Downloads ?
[12:22] <Gnea> greenmang0: don't know, try the rc.local suggestion
[12:22] <ForgeAus> KDE isn't ugly, not sure how to get gnome to look pretty..
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> no--name:  tryit and see
[12:22] <no--name> ok
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> I dont find gnome ugly either..
[12:22] <Dice-Man> kde is not ugly but it dull your ram
[12:22] <ForgeAus> but then ugly is mostly a matter of perception, I can't tell you what your concept of beauty is
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> I do use the clearlooks theme. :)
[12:22] <Gnea> gnome and kde are hideous
[12:23] <greenmang0> Gnea: so what do you use? fluxbox? :)
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> 'vague' buzzeords :) and  perceptioon
[12:23] <Gnea> E17 is where it's at
[12:23] <no--name> Dr_Willis: $ lsc Downloads
[12:23] <no--name> cat: Downloads: Invalid argument
[12:23] <ForgeAus> lucid is so MacOSX-alike (at least the default for leopard)
[12:23] <Gnea> greenmang0: heck no :)
[12:23] <ForgeAus> lookswise.. workalike, very different
[12:23] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i run windoze 7 clear as a bell but for whatever gnome and kde are both sluggish for me so id like to try 64b and a diff window manager
[12:23] <Muffie> anyone can help me with STA installation?
[12:23] <erUSUL> no--name: 1) alias do not take args. 2) why do you need cat at all? 3) why you need the alias if ls in ubuntu is already an alias to ls --color=auto ???
[12:23] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> for whatever reason*
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> no--name:  why are you pipeing into cat anywauy?
[12:24] <ForgeAus> LXDE is another option but I'm not all that fussed about it
[12:24] <no--name> Because sometimes I like it to be vertical.
[12:24] <Morten_> Hi, what can I do when a ssh attempt just stops at "Last login...." and it doesn't go any further, and I want cancel the ssh attempt?
[12:24] <Muffie> I thought, in 2010, ubuntu 10.10 wouldnt have a problem with a simple wireless card...
[12:24] <no--name> Rather than getting things side by side
[12:24] <Gnea> greenmang0, ForgeAus: keep in mind, I compile E17 by hand
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> ls proberly has an option to do that allready
[12:24] <airtonix> Gnea, my thing is better than your thing.
[12:24] <erUSUL> no--name: verstical? 1 file per line? just use ls -1
[12:24] <Terabyte> I've got a new printer, I plugged the printer in, and followed the (ubuntu) wizard that came up, i installed generic driver and GDI, when i try to print a test page it says "the test page has been printed" but nothing comes out of the printer. i'm using the GDI driver and it's a panasonic KX-MB2000. Any ideas?
[12:24] <erUSUL> no--name: that 1 as in 1 2 3 not a l like in local
[12:24] <no--name> erUSUL: lol, thanks
[12:25] <Muffie> and then, mark shuttleworth is still wondering why Ubuntu is not widely used.
[12:25] <Gnea> airtonix: but will your thing automatically fix itself when it breaks? :)
[12:25] <no--name> erUSUL: ahh, neat.
[12:25] <no--name> I never knew about that :P
[12:25] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> so enlightenment, xfce, or lxde...
[12:25] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> which is best
[12:25] <airtonix> Gnea, it will if i whip it hard enough
[12:25] <Gnea> airtonix: heh, I don't even need to do that
[12:25] <ForgeAus> hehe Gnea, sad to see its not up to e19 yet lol :)
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> Muffie:   chipset makers not providing support like they should - is the bigger side of the 'issue'
[12:25] <greenmang0> Gnea: rc.local solution is kinda workaround... i want to find out why TMPTIME=0 not working
[12:25] <SaRy> Muffie, any clue why is that issue related to Ubuntu !
[12:25] <Gnea> ForgeAus: it's very linear in its development path
[12:25] <Muffie> Dr_Willis and SaRy : Well, the driver exists
[12:25] <ForgeAus> (*buntu has always seemed to be quite a way behind on the Enlightenment side of things)
[12:26] <sila> which is china ubuntu
[12:26] <greenmang0> Gnea: oh... E17
[12:26] <erUSUL> Muffie: what wifi chip ?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> for one laptop  i had. the STA driver  had issues. I had to use the older BCM driver I think
[12:26] <airtonix> Muffie, then use it ?
[12:26] <sila> which china ubuntu irc
[12:26] <Muffie> Dr_Willis and SaRy and erUSUL : Broadcom 4321.
[12:26] <airtonix> !cn | sila
[12:26] <kurrata> hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package?
[12:26] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> enlightenment, xfce, or lxde Dr_Willis / ForgeAus?
[12:26] <Gnea> ForgeAus: yes, but redhat put its foot down years ago when it came to the standardization of the linux desktop
[12:26] <sila> 3q
[12:26] <Muffie> airtonix: well, I would need to compile the driver, but I dont have the headers neither network to get them
[12:27] <erUSUL> Muffie: if it is broadcom then blame boradcom. they do not let anyone distribute the firmware for their cards
[12:27] <ForgeAus> Gnea does it matter where in the grub boot entry the line init=/bin/sh goes?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> ForgeAus:  i saw some Ubuntu variant that had updated E packages...  saw it mentioned on some site.. I think it was a pinguy variant. :)
[12:27] <Gnea> ForgeAus: yes, it must go at the end of the 'kernel' line
[12:27] <ForgeAus> (ie can it go after initrd /boot/initrd.img=2.6.23-22-generic ?
[12:27] <Muffie> erUSUL: Dont want to blame anyone. Just wanted to use Ubuntu
[12:27] <Gnea> ForgeAus: far right
[12:27] <erUSUL> Muffie: if they just allow it the any linux distro will come with the firmware already installed
[12:27] <ForgeAus> there was an unofficial elbuntu I tihnk
[12:27] <Artiom_Fiodorov> anyone knows how to fix lirc
[12:27] <Artiom_Fiodorov> in 10.10
[12:28] <airtonix> erUSUL, broadcom recently opensoruced the drivers...
[12:28] <Gnea> elbuntu didn't last, opengeu tries, and elive is the only actively developed, though that's based on debian
[12:28] <erUSUL> Muffie: so why you came here ranting about lack of support for common hardware ? go rant to a broadcom support forum
[12:28] <Muffie> airtonix: do you know if I can get a binary driver somewhere?
[12:28] <erUSUL> airtonix: for the new chipsets; the old ones still no luck
[12:28] <airtonix> Muffie, no you still need to compile it
[12:29] <erUSUL> Muffie: if you are connected via wire then just « sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter »
[12:29] <Muffie> airtonix: and how can I get headers with no network. I mean, I can use a pendrive, but what should i get and from?
[12:29] <ForgeAus> Tigger, XFCE is likely just as ugly as gnome to you, I guess, its very gnome-like to me... not sure Englightenment is going to be any better for you performance wise, I have no idea... LXDE is minimal, kinda... its probably the one I'd start with of the three, fluxbox is even further minimal yet functional enough... but the choice is really up to you)
[12:29] <muh2000> hi
[12:29] <Muffie> I'm not, I'm on a mac pro. But I can transfer files using a pen drive
[12:30] <airtonix> Muffie, make a liveusb from an iso then use it where you have network connection to do this
[12:30] <muh2000> what compiler optimizations aare used for building udeb packages?
[12:30] <Gnea> greenmang0: I'm not seeing the problem anywhere, you might want to post it to ubuntuforums.org
[12:30] <greenmang0> Gnea: ok
[12:30] <Muffie> airtonix: well, I have a live usb 10.10 that I used to install ubuntu
[12:30] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i was happy with gnomes appearance 3 or so versions ago but its gotten ugly again ForgeAus
[12:31] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> and personally gnome seems to have too few options and kde too many
[12:31] <Muffie> airtonix: cant I download a .DEB or something with linux headers?
[12:31] <airtonix> Muffie, yes.
[12:31] <airtonix> Muffie, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:32] <Muffie> airtonix: uname -r shows: 2.6.35-22-generic
[12:32] <rkpisanu> how to install kaffeine codecs ?
[12:32] <ForgeAus> argh no dice
[12:33] <erUSUL> Muffie: sorry in maverick is firmware-b43-installer the package name...
[12:33] <Muffie> erUSUL:  It's already on the installation iso?
[12:33] <mcdevitt> hi i need help fr compiling a wlan driver 10.04 •Chipsatz: Ralink RT3070, RF-Chip: RT3070
[12:33] <Gnea> okay, this is messed up: if I use usb-creator-gtk to make a USB drive bootable with 10.04 alternate iso, it boots up and attempts to install, but catches an error on the base-files and base-passwd packages, claiming permission denied. If I used unetbootin to make the USB stick, I get a different looking boot menu, it boots, but then can't recognize itself as a cdrom. fail.
[12:33] <Muffie> erUSUL: or do I need to take it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[12:34] <kurrata> hi, i have 2 questions. i made my own .deb file and installed it. Why i cant find it in software center as installed package. And 2nd question. How do i get that screenshot to show in software center when i am installing package? http://codepad.org/1KHsIFrm control file
[12:34] <toman> hello there. Is there anyone using ubuntu 10.10 and genius media tablet 8x6 ? i just want to know is it still working ok on 10.10 ...
[12:34] <ForgeAus> wait what kernel line?
[12:34] <erUSUL> Muffie: problem is; it is far easier to install it while connected to internet. to avoid legal problems the package has to download the firmware file from internet during install.
[12:34] <ForgeAus> (grr lag)
[12:35] <Muffie> airtonix: what packages should I get to simulate this command: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[12:35]  * Gnea considers attempting to ressurect the old desktop, get the cd burner working on it, burning a cd then hooking up the drive to the new system
[12:35] <Guest73951> Hello!, i have a problem with wifi conexion. All the laptops and pcs with ubuntu fails conecting to the router. Windows pc's works ok. What can i do?
[12:35] <erUSUL> Muffie: if you do it offline you need the packages ( both of them ) and download the firmware files. transfer everything to the system and run some commands... http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#device_firmware_installation
[12:35] <Gnea> !wifi | Guest73951
[12:35] <SaRy> Also, the Ubuntu Starter Guide contains much information about tweaking Ubuntu, besides multimedia support. Give it a few minutes -- it will certainly pay back.
[12:35] <ForgeAus> muffie apt-cache search should tell you that if that command isn't sufficient
[12:36] <Muffie> erUSUL:  thankx. I'll follow that link
[12:36] <Muffie> ForgeAus: no network! :(
[12:36] <airtonix> Muffie, what you should do is run a virtual machine on the machine you are currently on. then boot up the live iso and perform all these steps. then install apt-on-cd to make a iso of the local deb files you downloaded with apt then move that to your real machine to use
[12:37] <Muffie> :) Gosh!
[12:37] <ForgeAus> there is of course another desktop option that you could thikn about... windowmaker!
[12:37] <ForgeAus> Muffie, shouldn't matter if your apt-cache is up-to-date
[12:37] <airtonix> Muffie, surely virtualbox will run on the machine you are currently using ?
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Windowmaker is lacking in many ways these days.. and still very original in many ways
[12:37] <Muffie> airtonix: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[12:38] <Muffie> i think that sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter will solve
[12:38] <Muffie> just need
[12:38] <Muffie> to find the package
[12:38] <ForgeAus> Dr_Willis as much as I agree.. its still... interesting
[12:38] <ForgeAus> and usable
[12:38] <airtonix> !enter
[12:38] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[12:38] <SaRy> lol
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> I find the whole 'dock app' that windowmaker uses. much better then these Uber-docks that everyone is so in love with. But the rest of the gnustep stuff.. well . is odd in ways
[12:40] <CrackerJackz> how much hard disk space do i need for a ubuntu install
[12:40] <SaRy> as you like.
[12:40] <CrackerJackz> i have an old computer here that has a 300 mhz processor, 128 mb of ram, and a 6 GB hard drive
[12:40] <DrManhattan> 150GB
[12:40] <Jordan_U> Muffie: No need to compile anything, the driver for your card is already shipped with Ubuntu. What you need is the *firmware* which broadcom won't allow Ubuntu to distribute, which you can get here: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz
[12:40] <SCD[Eire]> CrackerJackz, you need 15GB minimum
[12:40] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: that should be plenty
[12:40] <ForgeAus> Dr_Willis I'd put some support into there being a StepBuntu or NeXTBuntu ... essentially all it would take is some repackaging of a standard *buntu base like Kubuntu or Ubuntu, taking out the KDE/Gnome components and adding in whichever *DM + Windowmaker + whatever elements of GNUstep are necessary/desired for a standardized distro..
[12:40] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: outdated ;P a copy of original NeXT gui http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
[12:41] <mickster04> SCD[Eire]: no you dont
[12:41] <CrackerJackz> what if i don't use gnome and use fluxbox or something
[12:41] <DrManhattan> 300GB
[12:41] <SCD[Eire]> mickster04, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:41] <Muffie> Jordan_U: thanks, got it. What should I do to install?
[12:41] <CrackerJackz> arent there things i can do to minimalize the ammount of hd space that gets used
[12:41] <mickster04> SCD[Eire]: CrackerJackz: i have it installed on 5 an a bit
[12:41] <DrManhattan> CrackerJackz, im just breaking balls. You're fine on 6
[12:41] <ForgeAus> much like the process to convert Kubuntu into Ubuntu or vice versa...
[12:41] <DrManhattan> CrackerJackz, you might want to try xubuntu though, it's a little lighter weight
[12:41] <Jordan_U> Muffie: sudo tar -xf /path/to/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz -C /lib/firmware/
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  I recall befor  wmaker started trying to become a nextish clone.   Befor there was all these gnustep* apps with their odd interfaces
[12:42] <Grey_Loki> CrackerJackz: perhaps install Damn Small Linux instead of one of the 'buntus?
[12:42] <ForgeAus> (I'm lagged again :( )
[12:42] <SCD[Eire]> mickster04, I presumed he meant standard desktop edition
[12:42] <vehsarc> anyone succeeded configuring lm_sensors for hp laptops like dv9500t (auto-detect detects only coretemp for cpu) ?
[12:42] <CrackerJackz> Grey_Loki, i thought about that but wasnt sure how much support i'd have for the hard ware
[12:42] <CrackerJackz> the computer is very old
[12:42] <mickster04> SCD[Eire]: i di
[12:42] <CrackerJackz> how similar is DSL to debian?
[12:42] <mickster04> SCD[Eire]: i doo
[12:43] <CrackerJackz> from what i was reading when you install dsl to hd you use apt-get for package management
[12:43] <erUSUL> !ot
[12:43] <CrackerJackz> so what all can i do to light up my ubuntu install?
[12:44] <Muffie> Jordan_U: ok, now just a reboot?
[12:44] <CrackerJackz> lighten*
[12:44] <bazhang> CrackerJackz, try lubuntu
[12:44] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Yes.
[12:44] <Grey_Loki> CrackerJackz: i've found that (generally) the older hardware is, the more likely you are to have good linux support with it
[12:44] <Muffie> Jordan_U: ok, rebooting

[12:44] <root> hi
[12:44] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: what extra software will you need?
[12:44] <vu1kan> Hi, I'm trying to write a super simple bash script to fullscreen vlc from my ir remote. the script runs thusly:<(line 1)#!/bin/bash (line 2)`xdotool key f`>; after i chmod +x, create a gnome keyboard shortcut that points to my script, and assign it a key, is there anything else I need to do to get keyboard shortcuts to use my script?
[12:44] <Gnea> Grey_Loki: not with newer versions of Ubuntu, however
[12:44] <CrackerJackz> Grey_Loki, that makes sense actually...
[12:44] <root> where could i find info about xss
[12:44] <mickster04> root: hey
[12:45] <Guest65295> dose someone knows
[12:45] <Guest65295> ??
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I dont even know what 'xss' is/
[12:45] <Gnea> Guest65295: probably in a web programming channel
[12:45] <Muffie> Jordan_U: still nothing
[12:45] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: cross-site-scripting
[12:45] <Guest65295> does someone there
[12:45] <Gnea> Guest65295: /join #httpd
[12:45] <CrackerJackz> mickster04, well i'm fixing the computer for a friend, they said they just wanna be able to listen to music, check email, and make word documents
[12:46] <CrackerJackz> so i was thinking firefox, audacious, open office
[12:46] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: then you wont need anything other tha n the defauot install
[12:46] <tarek> hi people i wanted to know where eclipse is installed after running apt-get install eclipse?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> abiword is lighter then Openoffice.. but may not work for  all their needs.
[12:46] <CrackerJackz> mickster04, how much hd space does ubuntu take up when you first install it
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> tarek:  try 'which eclipse'
[12:46] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Do you get any error message if you run "sudo rmmod b43; sudo modprobe b43"?
[12:46] <CrackerJackz> just the OS it's self
[12:46] <Gnea> tarek: open a terminal, type: which eclipse
[12:46] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: yeah the default install has everything he needs, i cant remember whats on the new default install
[12:47] <ForgeAus> lag got me :(
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  this new updated install is just under 5gb.
[12:47] <ForgeAus> anyway init=/bin/sh got me to busybox
[12:47] <Muffie> Jordan_U: no errors
[12:47] <CrackerJackz> and i'll have to make a 256 mb swap
[12:47] <CrackerJackz> you think i could get by with 128?
[12:47] <nation> is this the help channel
[12:47] <ForgeAus> Gnea I still need help it doesn't seem to have mounted the wubi virtual disk (hardfile) properly
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  how much ram do you have?
[12:48] <CrackerJackz> nation yes
[12:48] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: yeah
[12:48] <erUSUL> !ask | nation
[12:48] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, 128 mb
[12:48] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Does "iwlist scan" list any networks?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  you got 128mb of RAM? thats going to be a Major bottleneck
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  you would want a lot of swap in that case
[12:48] <ForgeAus> Gnea your help got me into busybox didn't start up normally still
[12:48] <nation> how to i setup evolution for windows live mail or msn mail
[12:48] <nation> or any other mail for that matter
[12:48] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, so at minimum 256 mb swap?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  i would check out Lubuntu for such a low end system
[12:48] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> does it help to have a huge swap file even if you got a few gigs Dr_Willis?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  id say a min of 512mb-1gb..
[12:49] <Muffie> Jordan_U: lo Interface doesn't support scanning | same for eth0
[12:49] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: why cant you get more? iwould be stuck tryin to find so little
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  theres a point of dimininshign returns.
[12:49] <ForgeAus> nation your lucky you can do that, it used to be a paid service, hehe not sure now its probably just a matter of selecting the pop3 server for it...
[12:49] <CrackerJackz> mickster04, it's not my computer it only has a 6 gb hd i'm just doing it as a favor for them
[12:49] <mickster04> Tigger_Yum-Yum: above 2 gigs swap is unnexesary
[12:49] <nation> yeah i did that but doesnt ask me for my pass or anyhting
[12:49] <erUSUL> Muffie: « sudo rkill list all »
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  whats its CPU anyway?
[12:50] <nation> 1010 is sweet :p
[12:50] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, i think 333mhz
[12:50] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i have 3gb of DDR2 and the default swap file that ubuntu gives me is 9gb Dr_Willis
[12:50] <CrackerJackz> lemme check
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  try lubuntu, if thats too sluggish. You may have to go try these super-minimal type disrtos liek Puppylinux, or dsl, or others.
[12:50] <ForgeAus> nation sorry not sure how to help you offhand... try googling you might find more info (google for thunderbird, and just transfer what it asks you to do over to how to do same kinda stuff in evolution maybe?)
[12:50] <nation> love how it manages my wireless boosted my signal by like 75%
[12:50] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, well i was thinking as long as i use a light weight window manager should be okay
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  i set mine by hand. I dont hibernate or suspend either.
[12:51] <nation> yeah its not that big of a deal just thought i would try it out
[12:51] <raj> quit
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  it also may take you a few hrs to install on such a low end box.
[12:51] <Muffie> erUSUL:  one sec. looking at bios
[12:51] <ForgeAus> for example a seachterm like "accessing windows live mail from evolution" ???
[12:51] <CrackerJackz> i mean.. right now it has windows xp on it
[12:51] <mantz> I need to customize my grub2 menu. how would I add what grub1 had in "safedefault"? or how would I always make one entry (windows) start by default even when installing new kernels?
[12:51] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> i dont hibernate or suspend either Dr_Willis... what size swap do you think i should have with 3 gigs of DDR2?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  i put it on a Pent I 100mhz once.. ages ago. :) just the install took like 2 hrs..
[12:51] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, i wouldnt be surprised if it took longer i don't think the cd drive reads very fast
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  proberly a gb or so. depends on your HD sizes.
[12:51] <mantz> CrackerJackz: how much RAM?
[12:51] <ForgeAus> (note windows live mail is synonymous with hotmail)
[12:52] <CrackerJackz> mantz, 128 mb
[12:52] <nation> how do i tag myself in here
[12:52] <mantz> Tigger_Yum-Yum: no swap really needed
[12:52] <tarek> Gnea: did that, but i get an error when i want to install gnat telling me that it is not there
[12:52] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Sorry, looking at http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 b4321 isn't actually supported by the b43 driver.
[12:52] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: why does he need any?
[12:52] <mantz> CrackerJackz: xubuntu is the most you can use. more likely lxde
[12:52] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> one 1TB hd, 3gb DDR, 2.6ghz Dual core CPU... swap size?
[12:52] <luojindong> hao
[12:52] <mantz> Tigger_Yum-Yum: zero
[12:52] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: why does he need any swap?
[12:52] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> 3gb DDR2**
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  you dont want to do 'no swap' at all.. thers other issues/things  -
[12:52] <mantz> Dr_Willis: what issues?
[12:52] <ForgeAus> does this work: http://pricklytech.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/ubuntu-10-4-lucid-configuring-evolution-to-connect-to-hotmail-windows-live-mail/ ???
[12:52] <CrackerJackz> mantz, what wm does xubuntu use?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  the question gets asked every so often. check the forums and the LONG threads on the topic.
[12:53] <mickster04> urgh long reading:(
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  its how the kernel works.. its best to have some swap.
[12:53] <mantz> CrackerJackz: xfce
[12:53] <mantz> Dr_Willis: why?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:  i also always make swap parittion because LIVE cd;s can use it. :)
[12:53] <mickster04> surely you only need minimum amount for thatmuch ram?
[12:53] <CrackerJackz> mantz, i was thinking of just using fluxbox
[12:53] <mickster04> Dr_Willis: surely you only need minimum amount for thatmuch ram?
[12:53] <Muffie> erUSUL: rkill?
[12:54] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> so 1TB 7,600rpm HD... 3GB DDR2... 2.6 ghz Dual Core CPU... 2 gb SWAP Dr_Willis?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> mickster04:   Proberly. but how muich is minimuim? 128mb? 512?
[12:54] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> with no hibernation
[12:54] <Muffie> this is really frustrating. Even bluetooth is working
[12:54] <CrackerJackz> or e16 maybe
[12:54] <mantz> CrackerJackz: that's even better. but: if you don't use the ubuntu desktops, there is no real reason using ubuntu imho. use another, small distro like puppy, dsl or debian (imho)
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Tigger_Yum-Yum:  that should be plenty.
[12:54] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> thanks
[12:54] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: yeah dsl or puppy is probably btter for your scenario
[12:54] <ForgeAus> seems like pop3.live.com using SSL security, and smtp.live.com as outgoing mail is what you need... )
[12:54] <entel> can i put a ruby file in /etc/init.d/ or does it have to be a shell script?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  also 'tiny core linux' = 10mb :)
[12:55] <DreadKnight> is skype connecting for you guys on ubuntu?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure that DSL is even being developed much any more.
[12:55] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: dsl an puppy have desktops tho
[12:55] <mantz> entel: if the #! is correct you could put ruby there. but it's not recommended
[12:55] <mickster04> DreadKnight: last i checked it was
[12:55] <Gnea> ForgeAus: you know, my wubi went out on me the other day, and I had to chkdsk /r on the windows system to get the disk files recovered, then mv'd back into place after booting a livecd
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> TinyCore linux - has a X desktop also. (a minimal one)
[12:55] <entel> mantz: why is it not recommended?
[12:55] <Muffie> Jordan_U: what should I try now?
[12:56] <CrackerJackz> mickster04, i was also kinda hoping i could stick with a distro that i know something about... when ever these people have a problem or want something install i have a feeling i'm gonna be the one doing it
[12:56] <mantz> entel: cause on bootup it's not a given that /usr is even mounted or available
[12:56] <Gnea> ForgeAus: after rebooting a couple of times after that, everything just sort of magically fell into place and it's been working just fine ever since
[12:56] <CrackerJackz> installed*
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  that old a machine may ba a problem on any disrto
[12:56] <mickster04> CrackerJackz: well you may as well get paud for it :P
[12:56] <mantz> CrackerJackz: giving someone who has no clue about computing fluxbox is not a good idea imho :)
[12:56] <entel> mantz: thanks
[12:56] <CrackerJackz> mantz, i was thinking that too but man it'd be so fast
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  on a 333mhz machine.. i dont think 'fast' is a word that should be used with anything, :)
[12:57] <CrackerJackz> if there is enough hd space i was thinking maybe xfce and fluxbox
[12:57] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, :-p
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu uses openbox CrackerJackz ..
[12:57] <loudrain> hi everyone
[12:58] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, ive never heard of that before
[12:58] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> would you even be able to run flash or java on 128mb?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu is Ubuntu + LXDE . it was supposed to be an offiical variant.. but dident make it in the 10.10 release.. perhaps in the 11.04 release
[12:58] <Jordan_U> Muffie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43/STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access But I'm still trying to confirm that the STA driver supports your card.
[12:58] <CrackerJackz> i just looked at some screen shots looks pretty slick
[12:58] <nbubuntu> hi I need help here , anyone using 10.10 now ???
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu is about as minimal a ubuntu as you get with all the normal 'features' people expect.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> nbubuntu:  many of us are.
[12:59] <nadav> anyone recommend using KTurtle to learn some programming?
[12:59] <Muffie> Jordan_U: from lspci: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 01)
[12:59] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : I am facing new panel crash
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> nadav:  why not just learn Python to begin eith?
[12:59] <CrackerJackz> how much RAM does firefox, flash, java use?
[12:59] <nikola> Tigger_Yum-Yum, yesđž
[12:59] <nikola> nbubuntu, yes
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  they can use quite a bit.
[13:00] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : right click the panel and create a new panel at the bottom and when I restart pc it crash
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> more then 128mb i bet.
[13:00] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Those instructions should get you working, as long as you haven't done something else like try to install ndiswrapper already.
[13:00] <greenmang0> CrackerJackz: 50% of available system RAM :P
[13:00] <mantz> CrackerJackz: forget java.
[13:00] <nikola> CrackerJackz, try DSL or Puppy linux, to see how small os can be
[13:00] <CrackerJackz> Dr_Willis, i was thinking the same thing they play alot of those spam apps on facebook lol...
[13:00] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : The crash I am facing is , it just show desktop wallpaper background
[13:00] <Muffie> nadav: that's probably LOGO, you should start with something more direct
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> DSL 50mb, Puppy, 100mb ., tiny core linux, 10mb.
[13:00] <Muffie> Jordan_U: I did!
[13:01] <CrackerJackz> flash is buggy in linux though ive never been able to get it to work completely
[13:01] <Muffie> Jordan_U: 1st thing I have tried was installing ndiswrapper
[13:01] <johnm> rename u42p u42p_fb
[13:01] <johnm> save
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> nbubuntu:  ive not seen the issue here. not heard of anyone else having theissue either.
[13:01] <Muffie> Jordan_U: can I remove it now?
[13:01] <Jordan_U> Muffie: ndiswrapper should always be the last resort :)
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> CrackerJackz:  more correct is to say 'flash is buggy' :)
[13:01] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom | Muffie
[13:01] <Jordan_U> Muffie: Yes, but how you remove it depends on how you installed it.
[13:01] <CrackerJackz> that is true but i think it's buggier in linux than it is in windblowz
[13:01] <mantz> CrackerJackz: forget it. windowmaker (on a stripped down debian, not a fairly bloated ubuntu) plus firefox without flash and the RAM was full on a 128MB machine I once used
[13:01] <nadav> Dr_Willis, I know absoultly nothing about programming, you think phyton would be a good pace to start?
[13:01] <nadav> place
[13:02] <u42p> hi, the solution to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515891 is that mpd does only provide the stream when it is actually playing some music. could someone post that? there is no account at bugmenot, so i wont. thanks!
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> they spend more $$ debuggint windows..
[13:02] <Muffie> Jordan_U: I didnt knew that. I have double clicked on two .deb files! :)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> nadav:  yes.
[13:02] <Muffie> thanks ubottu
[13:02] <entel> mantz: you said it wont be garunteed /usr will be mounted, i have a program ive written in ruby that id like to run on startup, where would i put it?
[13:02] <Tigger_Yum-Yum> CrackerJackz mise well just use epiphany and use a cell phones http header thing... get plain text versions of pages
[13:02] <nbubuntu> Dr_Willis : so are you using 10.10 ?
[13:02] <mantz> entel: rc.local
[13:02] <entel> mantz: ill look into that. thanks again
[13:03] <mantz> entel:  /etc/rc.local
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> nbubuntu:  yes.