[14:10] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:10] <D-F3NS> magpii, get rid of banshee, it just sucks. use audacious
[14:10] <RevSpecies116> Nope - just starts with 'audio/....... blah blah'
[14:10] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, thanks i did it right i think
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> but if you want 320kbs, I think the vbr part needs to be cbr
[14:11] <Neohasreturned> audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc bitrate=320 ! id3v2mux
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, there you have it
[14:11] <RevSpecies116> :)
[14:11] <sourabh> hi
[14:11] <sourabh> there
[14:12] <Abhijit> hi SoulRaven
[14:12] <Abhijit> hi sourabh
[14:12] <sourabh> hi abhijit
[14:12] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, making notes so i remember in future lol
[14:13] <sourabh> whats going on ?
[14:13] <RevSpecies116> Notes are always good, Neohasreturned - because you may need to do this again when you next update from 10.10 to 12.04LTS ;)
[14:13] <Abhijit> sourabh, offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:13] <RevSpecies116> sourabh - how can we help?
[14:13] <sourabh> oh sorry
[14:13] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, i wont i dont like the new interface lol
[14:14] <sourabh> well i just downloaded and installed ubuntu
[14:14] <RevSpecies116> Did you know the normal interface from 10.10 is included in 11.04?
[14:14] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu Classic ;)
[14:14] <zeddd> yup
[14:14] <zeddd> login screen <3
[14:14] <sourabh> yes
[14:15] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, really i just saw this buggy system lol
[14:15] <sourabh> did anybody knows how to install LAMP
[14:15] <zeddd> im not the only one who finds the new interface rubbish, am i?
[14:15] <RevSpecies116> Neohasreturned: I cannot disagree with that statement
[14:15] <Neohasreturned> zeddd, it sucks
[14:15] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 is on the unstable side
[14:15] <zeddd> :D
[14:16] <Abhijit> !lamp | sourabh
[14:16] <zeddd> anyways can someone help me with a matter?
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> 10.10 is good
[14:16] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:16] <zeddd> im trying to get some drivers for a webcam working
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> whats 10.04 like RevSpecies116
[14:16] <RevSpecies116> I love 10.04LTS - so very stable
[14:16] <RevSpecies116> But it is an LTS - so it really has to be
[14:16] <sourabh> thanks
[14:16] <Neohasreturned> zeddd, have you trued updating hrdware drivers?
[14:17] <zeddd> im following some guide atm
[14:17] <PythonSnake> is 10.04 or 11.04 better ?
[14:17] <zeddd> installed some source
[14:17] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, isn't 10.10 stable?
[14:17] <PythonSnake> !wine
[14:17] <RevSpecies116> python - checks and balances.
[14:17] <Osmodivs> Hello. Why everytime I login to Ubuntu 11.04, it asks me for my Keyring Pasword 3 times? I have set it up to remember the password, but still asks me my password, Whats wrong with Ubuntu, is there a way to fix this annoying issue?
[14:17] <RevSpecies116> For example, I cannot run a 3G USB modem from Vodafone in 10.04LTS
[14:17] <sourabh> hay anybody knows python here?
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> but with kernal updates to 11.04, it runs out of the box
[14:18] <jrib> sourabh: #python for help writing python
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> but with 11.04, you get other changes - unstable-ness
[14:18] <dall> hello
[14:18] <PythonSnake> hi
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> so it really is checks and balances
[14:18] <PythonSnake> is 11.04 or 10.04 better ?
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> 10.04LTS from a stability point of view
[14:18] <sudokill> everyone asks that
[14:18] <oCean> Please keep the general discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, and this for support purposes
[14:18] <dall> what server do i have to use to update the time of my ubuntu ?
[14:18] <dall> ntpudate {server}
[14:18] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 for the 'futureproof' point of view
[14:19] <dall> what server?
[14:19] <dall> *ntpdate
[14:19] <Neohasreturned> RevSpecies116, what you think of mint?
[14:19] <oCean> Neohasreturned: that is offtopic here, thanks
[14:20] <RevSpecies116> Did Osmodivs leave? I was about to tell him that is not a bug but a security feature
[14:20] <Neohasreturned> Sorry oCean
[14:20] <oCean> Neohasreturned: welcome to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[14:20] <sudokill> RevSpecies116, yes he left
[14:21] <RevSpecies116> In recent times, the only other distro I've tried is TinyCore - Linux in 10MB's is fun ;)
[14:23] <dall> ??
[14:24] <Gethiox> Is it possible to block text mode in ubuntu? Same as ctrl + alt + L in Gnome.
[14:26] <wols> Gethiox: it's always "blocked". you need a username and password to log in
[14:27] <PAB> What is hte concurrency level (i.e. the --jobs variable in make)  for an 8 thread CPU (i7- 2600k)? I want to use 8. Too many could lead in a conflict, too less wouldn't use entire power of the CPU. Right?
[14:27] <sudokill> PAB use -j9
[14:27] <sudokill> recommended to use 1 more
[14:28] <PAB> sudokill: thx
[14:29] <sudokill> you can use -j100 if u like
[14:30] <Terabyte> how do i find out my lan ip (192.168.1.?
[14:30] <sudokill> ifconfig
[14:30] <Terabyte> ifconfig didn't look much like that number, it was 10,0.2.15
[14:30] <Terabyte> it's in a virtual machine
[14:30] <sudokill> ah ok
[14:30] <dianna> can someone help me to find a svp password on my w500
[14:31] <wols> dianna: svp password?
[14:31] <sudokill> Terabyte, idk much about VM but maybe u need to use that command on the host
[14:31] <wols> Terabyte: that's nortmal for VBox NAT setting
[14:31] <coz_> hey all
[14:31] <wols> dianna: do you mean the thinkpad supervisor password?
[14:31] <petsounds> hi coz_
[14:31] <dianna> yes
[14:31] <wols> dianna: not possible
[14:31] <coz_> petsounds,  hey guy
[14:32] <wols> dianna: only posssible with soldering and a new chip
[14:32] <dianna> is there any proffesional to do it
[14:32] <dianna> i will pay
[14:32] <Terabyte> wols but i have 2 vm's and they both have the same IP, how will i talk to one of them>
[14:33] <iceroot> Terabyte: you cant have the same ip more then once in the same network
[14:34] <cesc39> hey guys I know is off-topic but in #xchat nobody is talking... how do I reply to someone using his nickname... without having to type it? I'm using xchat irc client.
[14:34] <sudokill> cesc39, press tab after typing first few letters
[14:34] <wols> dianna: yes there are. lenovo will do it too if you can prove it's your thinkpad
[14:34] <wols> dianna: but that is not a ubuntu related topic
[14:34] <iceroot> cesc39: write the first characters of the name then hit tab
[14:34] <iceroot> cesc39: also working on the shell
[14:34] <wols> Terabyte: don't use NAT networking then
[14:34] <cesc39> sudokill, thanks
[14:34] <cesc39> works!
[14:34] <dianna> ok thanks
[14:35] <cesc39> iceroot, thanks
[14:35] <Terabyte> i don't follow what i have to do to be able to get these two vms to talk to each other
[14:35] <GamePlay3r> hello
[14:35] <GamePlay3r> just finished install ubuntu 11.04
[14:36] <GamePlay3r> do people genrally prefer unity over gnome3
[14:36] <Ganymede> I'm having trouble with using gnome-screensaver to lock my session after 6 minutes of inactivity. I see gnome-screensaver in "ps aux" and I believe it's configured to lock my screen after 6 minutes of inactivity but it just appears to do nothing. My session is unlocked after six minutes of inactivity. I'm using openbox-session as my desktop.
[14:47] <technicolor> Hello?
[14:48] <max__> hi
[14:49] <technicolor> :)
[14:49] <Durga> ahoihoi useres
[14:49] <max__> Anyone know any good video playing software that can play videos at slower or faster speeds without distorting the audio
[14:49] <technicolor> i lost my taskbar :S, i dunno how to put it back? :S
[14:49] <max__> lol
[14:49] <max__> been there
[14:49] <technicolor> please help :(
[14:49] <max__> do you have the top taskbar
[14:49] <technicolor> nope
[14:49] <coz_> max__,   vlc should be able to
[14:49] <Durga> i got a question may i can ask you here
[14:49] <max__> so you do not have any bars at the top or bottom
[14:50] <technicolor> nope,
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  just hit t he + or -  keys on the keypad
[14:50] <max__> coz_: thanks, i am going to try that
[14:50] <Durga> ubuntu crashes when i play movies or streams after a time
[14:50] <Durga> and it also crashes when i play music
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  open synaptic  search for vlc and install all of the vlc packages
[14:50] <coz_> max__,  also make sure you have all of the codecs installed
[14:50] <Durga> its may because of the audio drivers
[14:51] <technicolor> the last time i did was uninstall compiz, and the next time i start the pc, the taskbar and unity is gone :S
[14:51] <Terabyte> i have ubuntu server with auto updates enabled... when will it update?
[14:51] <max__> technicolor: im trying to remember one sec
[14:51] <Durga> doono im pretty new in ubuntu
[14:51] <Durga> ill take a look
[14:52] <technicolor> thank you, max__ :)
[14:52] <max__> technicolor: try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/lost-your-kde-taskbar-and-how-to-recover-it-486803/
[14:53] <MadHaTTer666> technicolor rainbow
[14:53] <technicolor> ty max__
[14:53] <technicolor> lol MadHaTTer666
[14:53] <max__> technicolor: did it work?
[14:53] <Durga> max did you know about the crash problem while playing sound?
[14:53] <MadHaTTer666> :D
[14:53] <max__> Durga: no
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:54] <Durga> where can i find a crash log?
[14:54] <Durga> to post it somewhere
[14:54] <MadHaTTer666> event viewer XD
[14:54] <max__> Durga: not sure
[14:54] <Durga> /var/log/?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:55] <max__> i got lucky with tech's question, not really an expert here
[14:55] <Durga> oic
[14:55] <technicolor> max__: have to restart first :S
[14:55] <max__> technicolor: ok good that you got that far, i didn't have the option when i right clicked
[14:55] <Durga> ubuntu is nice but its not useable when it crashes all the time when i play a movie or listen to music
[14:56] <tuxx_> hey guys..
[14:56] <tuxx_> why does ubuntu 11 only initialize my eth0 after i log in to gnome
[14:56] <tuxx_> i dnot even want gnome.. i just want a console
[14:56] <tuxx_> i have to manually run dhclient eth0 from console to get my interface up and running
[14:56] <tuxx_> the file /etc/init.d/networking has been removed too
[14:57] <max__> coz_: this works perfect thanks
[14:57] <coz_> max__,   excellent :)
[14:57] <Durga> ill take a look at the german channel have a nice day
[14:58] <tuxx_> i added auto eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:58] <kermit_frog> what should i use for file sharing from windows to ubuntu?
[14:58] <tuxx_> doesnt seem to work though
[14:59] <tuxx_> ok i fixed it..
[14:59] <tuxx_> thanks for nothing you dumb pricks
[14:59] <lulu> hi
[14:59] <technicolor> max__: it didnt work :(
[15:00] <lulu> does anyone know why i drop to busybox every time i log in? i recently installed ubuntu natty... and i have to wait for ages and type "exit" to be able to get the login screen
[15:03] <Haw> Hey everyone, I downloaded a game, named auteria. And I didn't get it installed (I downloaded a archiv (.tar file) and used the archiemanager now I have a lot of files ut no .exe file. And this isn'ta sourcecode so I can't use the installation for source code (I think)
[15:04] <kermit_frog> does it have a readme?
[15:05] <Haw> yeah, but I can only read some libraries I have to install. But I don't know where I can fin this librarys.
[15:05] <kermit_frog> where did you download from?
[15:06] <Haw>   - Install the requiered libaries
[15:06] <Haw> http://www.auteria.com/index.php?c=download
[15:06] <Haw> I never installed a game without wine or the Software-Center.
[15:07] <kermit_frog> let me look at the package... 1 sec
[15:07] <Haw> thx a lot
[15:08] <kermit_frog> you have it extracted right?
[15:09] <kermit_frog> Haw, extract archive into a folder on your desktop
[15:09] <Haw> desktop? Okay.
[15:09] <kermit_frog> or wherever you want it
[15:09] <Haw> I'll copy the extracted folder.
[15:10] <Haw> hm fine than it's done ^^
[15:10] <kermit_frog> ok now open terminal
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Haw, have you read the readme in the extracted folder
[15:10] <kermit_frog> yes
[15:10] <kermit_frog> he said he did
[15:11] <Rigin> hello
[15:11] <Haw> yes I readed it. but I didn't know where I get these "neccessary" libraries. or what a librarie is. terminal is open.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Haw, you will need an app called build-essential as well
[15:11] <kermit_frog> copy and paste cd Desktop
[15:11] <kermit_frog> and then cd to whatever you named your folder
[15:12] <Rigin> how can we install applications on ubuntu
[15:12] <oCean> !software | Rigin
[15:12] <Osmodivs> Rigin,  Google it
[15:12] <oCean> Osmodivs: never helpful
[15:13] <Osmodivs> XD
[15:13] <bt> !find lubuntu-rc.xml
[15:13] <Osmodivs> Just kiddin'
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Osmodivs, we're not here to tell ppl to google
[15:13] <Osmodivs> BluesKaj, I said "I am just kiddin'"
[15:13] <kermit_frog> Haw: you cd'd to the folder on your desktop?
[15:14] <Haw> Yes I am in the folder.
[15:14] <Rigin> dont know
[15:14] <Haw> Where the readme is.
[15:14] <Rigin> i am new to ubuntu
[15:14] <oCean> Rigin: what is your questioin?
[15:14] <kermit_frog> ok now type: ./auteria
[15:14] <oCean> *question
[15:14] <Osmodivs> ¡question
[15:14] <Osmodivs> |question
[15:14] <kermit_frog> *in terminal
[15:14] <Osmodivs> !question
[15:15] <Osmodivs> there you go
[15:15] <Haw> Oh so easy?
[15:15] <kermit_frog> did it run?
[15:15] <Osmodivs> Rigin,  Use the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:15] <Haw> Thanks a lot it works ^^
[15:16] <Haw> And I had thought I have to install something.
[15:16] <kermit_frog> and just follow the same steps to run it again
[15:17] <Rigin> ok
[15:17] <omry> j #eclipsre
[15:17] <omry> j #eclipse
[15:18] <Rigin> how can we install templates in computer
[15:18] <Rigin> pls help
[15:19] <Rigin>  how can we install templates in computer
[15:19] <Rigin>  pls help
[15:20] <kermit_frog> which templates?
[15:20] <Rigin> templates showing in  desktop
[15:21] <Rigin> templates showing in  desktop
[15:21] <Rigin> while left click
[15:21] <edbian> I think you mean right click
[15:21] <Rigin> ya
[15:21] <gimpy1381> I'm trying to set up a media center but when I connect it to my TV it won't go above 640x480 4:3.  The nvidia settings manager won't let me change it to something higher, why?
[15:22] <Rigin> in create document
[15:22] <kermit_frog> Rigin: 1 second
[15:22] <Rigin> ok
[15:24] <Rigin> i will wait 4 u
[15:25] <kermit_frog> Rigin, I dont know if this is the only way, but go to your home folder, then the templates folder, then right click, create new document, make it, save it.
[15:25] <dassouki> i installed ubuntu on a virtualbox, but it started gnome instead of unity by default
[15:25] <dassouki> how can I change that ?
[15:25] <Ganymede> dassouki, If you're on a Windows host, install VBox guest additions to Ubuntu and enable 3D acceleration in machine settings.
[15:25] <Rigin> i will wait 4 u
[15:26] <dassouki> Ganymede: i'm on a mac host and i just enabled 3d acceleration; hoever, after installing ubuntu
[15:26] <kermit_frog> Rigin: see above for directions ;)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, what kind of connection from your pc/laptop to the tv , and what type of tv ?
[15:28] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: New TV, was working with the old one.  Old one was connected with composite video, running VGA right now on the new TV.
[15:28] <Rigin> i will try now
[15:29] <Haw> okay bye thx a lot again.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> new tv has vga inputs ?  then it could be restricting the resolution , what kind of new tv?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, ^
[15:30] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: Toshiba 46SL417U...seems silly to limit the res since VGA can go much higher.
[15:31] <Rigin> it is succesfull
[15:31] <Rigin> thank a lot kermit_frog
[15:32] <kermit_frog> not a problem
[15:32] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, vga inputs on tv sets are not meant for hidef resolution , the hdmi and component inputs are though
[15:33] <gimpy1381> BluesKaj: VGA gets much higher even on cheap monitors, why not a TV?  I know, HDMI comes next week with a new video card.
[15:36] <Rigin> how a tv tuner card can be configured in ubuntu
[15:36] <Rigin> pls help
[15:36] <Dice-Man> is it installed ?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> gimpy1381, yeah, I use nvidia pci card with dvi>hdmi cable connected to a panasonic 42" plasma , which I'm chatting on right now\
[15:36] <Rigin> no
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Rigin, which tv tuner card?
[15:37] <Rigin> tech-com
[15:38] <Dice-Man> Rigin: what's the reference ?
[15:38] <lulu> hi everyone, does anyone know why i drop to busybox every time i log in? i recently installed ubuntu natty... and i have to wait for ages and type "exit" to be able to get the login screen
[15:38] <Rigin> i did'nt get u
[15:39] <BluesKaj> Rigin, usb stick type ?
[15:39] <Rigin> ya
[15:39] <Rigin> usb stick
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Rigin, we nedd to know the model number etc
[15:40] <yeats> lulu: try booting into recovery mode and see if there's a log message where it hangs
[15:40] <Rigin> te-9y-T6
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !pm | Rigin
[15:41] <Rigin> ok
[15:42] <Rigin> sorry
[15:42] <bt> Rigin, have you tried http://www.mythtv.org/?
[15:43] <Rigin> no
[15:43] <Rigin> i will try it now
[15:43] <bt> Rigin, my usb tuner worked "out-of-the-box" with it
[15:45] <Rigin> i have started downloading mythtv
[15:46] <Rigin> i feel ubuntu is very slow
[15:46] <Rigin> while using internet and hearing music
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | Rigin
[15:47] <Rigin> what is the soluutions for making system faster
[15:47] <Rigin> what
[15:47] <Rigin> i didn't get u
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !info tvtime | Rigin
[15:48] <Rigin> i didn't get u BluesKaj
[15:48] <Rigin> ok
[15:48] <Rigin>  i got it
[15:49] <halvors> Ubuntu 11.04 is the has the must buggy GUI i've ever seen :(
[15:49] <BluesKaj> mythtv is  good too , but tvtime is easier to setup
[15:49] <iceroot> halvors: feel free to use another gui
[15:50] <yeats> !classic | halvors
[15:50] <acidix> hello
[15:50] <halvors> I know.
[15:50] <Rigin> hello
[15:50] <halvors> But why is Unity so buggy?
[15:50] <yeats> !ot | halvors
[15:50] <acidix> is there someone from romania ?
[15:51] <Rigin> no
[15:51] <acidix> :((
[15:51] <MadHaTTer666> wtf night ppl
[15:51] <halvors> This is a support question.
[15:51] <rypervenche> !ro | acidix
[15:51] <iceroot> !ro | acidix
[15:51] <halvors> How fix the buggy Unity?
[15:51] <oCean> MadHaTTer666: control your language
[15:51] <halvors> It hungs every hour.
[15:51] <iceroot> halvors: create bugs
[15:51] <MadHaTTer666> language?
[15:51] <gimpy1381> halvors: Use gnome instead?
[15:51] <iceroot> halvors: thats the best way to solve problems you face
[15:52] <halvors> So why is Unity default and not gnome?
[15:52] <iceroot> halvors: because canocial want it that way
[15:52] <oCean> halvors: this is not the channel for general discussion
[15:52] <Rigin> stop all unnessecary comments
[15:53] <Rigin> talk about about technical things only
[15:53] <MadHaTTer666> what is language?
[15:53] <Rigin> stop all unnessecary comment
[15:53] <Neohasreturned> Hi could someone tell me the best program to backup my programs?
[15:54] <oCean> MadHaTTer666: acronyms such as wtf are not welcome in this channel
[15:54] <iceroot> !best | Neohasreturned
[15:54] <iceroot> Neohasreturned: also why you need to backup your programs? maybe you mean your settings and personal data?
[15:55] <Neohasreturned> iceroot, Well in mint there was a backup program which used to create a list so I could restore programs easily but there isn't one in Ubuntu
[15:55] <Davidius> Anyone here know alot about package management? Im getting an error wjhen trying to update
[15:55] <iceroot> !clone | Neohasreturned
[15:55] <Davidius> something about unfinished packages
[15:55] <iceroot> !clone | Davidius
[15:55] <iceroot> Davidius: ah sorry wrong nick
[15:55] <Davidius> LOL no worries
[15:56] <iceroot> Davidius: you want to upgrade your packages? what is the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[15:57] <Davidius> I dont want to do a distro upgrade just update my packages
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: thats what i posted
[15:57] <Davidius> I have update manager which I think comes from Mint
[15:57] <nijabo> V
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: dist-upgrade is NOT upgrading the distribution to a higher level, just installing sec-updates
[15:57] <iceroot> Davidius: you are using mint?
[15:57] <Davidius> nope using a variant of Ubuntu PinguyOS
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: then this is not the correct channel
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: this is ubuntu-support only
[15:58] <Davidius> I thought the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would bering me from maverick to narwahl
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: no
[15:58] <Davidius> yes and after a week of being in the right room they directed me here
[15:58] <Davidius> besides its the same OS
[15:58] <iceroot> Davidius: if you are not using ubuntu this is not the correct place
[15:59] <Davidius> it just comes packaged with different programs
[15:59] <iceroot> Davidius: as i said, this is not the correct channel
[15:59] <Davidius> Is there anyone bar iceroot here who is willing to help and not be such a distro snob
[16:00] <cmaxwell> what was your question?
[16:00] <oCean> Davidius: no, it is not supported here
[16:00] <Davidius> its Ubuntu plus extra shit with nothing changed but just packages added on the ISO
[16:00] <oCean> Davidius: and control your language in this channel
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: drop the language
[16:00] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: the rule here is we do not support non-official distros
[16:00] <ikonia> Davidius: ubuntu plus is a non-official distro
[16:00] <Davidius> oCean if you think you have cause to kick me for using the word snob then do so but dont threaten me
[16:02] <Milossh> ikonia, may I ask why that username?
[16:02] <Milossh> that is an archaic name for women from where I'm from
[16:03] <ikonia> Milossh: not really on topic for this channel, and quite a long/boaring story
[16:03] <Milossh> ok
[16:10] <Jake7> Question: What is the compatibility status of 11.04 on a Asus Eee PC 1000? Ubuntu only shows compatibility to 10.04 LTS
[16:11] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:11] <seachcoz_> is coz_ here
[16:11] <Ganymede> Does anyone know a good screenlocker for openbox-session that will lock the screen after six minutes of inactivity? xscreensaver's lock is horrendously ugly and gnome-screensaver's lock looks good but I can't get it to actually...lock after six minutes of inactivity.
[16:12] <dr_willis> why does looks actually matter? :)
[16:12] <Melvis> you could try xflock4 from xfce
[16:13] <dr_willis> i thought you selexted the screensaver to use, then it would lock.   or are you saying the unlock dialog is ugly?
[16:13] <petsounds> Jake7, out of the box in my 1000HE.
[16:14] <Jurgentje> Hi... I've downloaded Ubuntu Studio (here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/ ) twice already, ... and I had 2 different MD5hash results (both faulty). Anyone a clue how I can get the download right?
[16:14] <Jurgentje> (currently trying the torrent)
[16:14] <dr_willis> Jurgentje,  try the torrents
[16:14] <jayson_> my mouse only works when i put it over the top menu, i can't do anything with it when i try to us it in a program anyone with any idea's
[16:14] <sjs54724> ?
[16:14] <ZykoticK9> Jurgentje, torrent "should" solve your problem ;)
[16:14] <dr_willis> actually you could start the torrent, stop it.. copy the iso to the location. restart and check the torrent.. and it may fix whatever part is the problem
[16:15] <Jake7> petsounds: What's the difference between a straight 1000 and an HE ?
[16:15] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:15] <Jurgentje> dr_willis, you mean that a torrent performs some kind of blockwise crc-check?
[16:15] <dr_willis> Jurgentje,  yes. ive done that trick in the past.
[16:16] <petsounds> Jake7, no idea but if you're unsure use lucid.
[16:16] <Jurgentje> wow! that's a cool trick!
[16:16] <Jurgentje> it actually works! (never though it would) :)
[16:16] <dr_willis> i would double check the md5 sum
[16:17] <Jurgentje> yeah, that was my surprise... I actually had my ISO file in the same folder where torrent works... and it was ready in 2 seconds. Then I realized that I didn't remove it.  The 1000HE runs an Intel Atom 280 processor with  160 GB HDD. I guess I'll go with the 10.04 LTS for now.
[16:20] <Jake7> petsounds: Thanks!
[16:20] <Rigin> ya surely
[16:20] <dr_willis> Wikipedia is great <Citation needed>
[16:20] <cmaxwell> lol
[16:21] <qwebirc43584> hello. please can someone explain how-to install firefox5(five) in ubuntu 10.04 the official way?
[16:21] <Rigin> wait
[16:21] <stephanmg> can i have installed ruby and ruby1.9.1 parallel on one system?
[16:21] <dr_willis> qwebirc43584,  the webupd8 blog site has a guide i belive on that.
[16:21] <iceroot> !ff5 | qwebirc43584
[16:21] <qwebirc43584> searching "firefox5" in software center doesnt find anything : (
[16:21] <dr_willis> because you need to enable  the proper PPA qwebirc43584
[16:22] <iceroot> qwebirc43584: sudo add-apt-repository pad.lv/ppa/mozillateam/firefox-stable/
[16:22] <qwebirc43584> so if i add the "http://pad.lv/ppa/mozillateam/firefox-stable/" it will be found in siftware center?
[16:22] <iceroot> qwebirc43584: correct
[16:23] <Rigin> i am sorry
[16:23] <qwebirc43584> software
[16:23] <qwebirc43584> i will try to add it then
[16:24] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/firefox-5-lands-in-firefox-stable-ppa.html
[16:24] <dr_willis> gives the exact commands to cut/paste.. 3 total :)
[16:24] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:25] <sobczyk> hello is there an easy way to setup a custop ubuntu apt repository?
[16:25] <seachcoz_> hi
[16:25] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:25] <seachcoz_> !!
[16:25] <jingo255> hi. trying to install ubuntu with cd but just get a blank purple screen
[16:25] <dr_willis> jingo255,  and whats your video chipset?
[16:25] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:25] <seachcoz_> !!
[16:25] <jingo255> some garbage one, old laptop
[16:25] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  you need to state an actual problem.
[16:25] <stephanmg> i guess i can i see. thx :)
[16:26] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | jingo255
[16:26] <seachcoz_> ok well
[16:26] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:26] <jingo255> thanks
[16:27] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:27] <dr_willis> and tell the channel the ACTUAL problem...
[16:28] <leafpile> I'm currently on an LTS release.  If I were to install Natty, could I resume sticking with LTS releases after the next one is released?
[16:28] <mechanist> hello everyone
[16:28] <smmsadrnezh> How to change boot page in ubuntu 10.04?
[16:29] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  clarify what you mean. the term 'boot page' is a little vague
[16:29] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound
[16:30] <BluesKaj> leafpile, you would have to upgrade twicew , whereas if you stick with the presnt LTS , then next april you upgrade directly to the the 12.04 LTS
[16:30] <jingo255> im alittle confused, is nomodeset an option I choose in the BIOS?
[16:30] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound, please help
[16:30] <dr_willis> jingo255,  its a kernel boot option. that URL given shows it in the screenshots I belive
[16:30] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, not in bios no - it's a kernel parameter actually
[16:30] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm talking about the page show during ubuntu boot up
[16:31] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  you mean the ubuntu ....... loading screen?
[16:31] <leafpile> BluesKaj: but if i install natty, i would only have to stick with 12.04 LTS (once I upgrade to it) in order to be back on the "LTS path", correct?
[16:31] <jingo255> I'm not very computer savvy, what do I do with a kernal parameter?
[16:31] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: yes
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> smmsadrnezh, Plymouth is what that "boot" screen is called
[16:31] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: exactly
[16:31] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  if so thats 'plymouth' there are some plymouth themes.. i just disable plymouth. i find it pointless
[16:32] <dr_willis> jingo255,  read that url given in the !nomodeset factoid.. it shows you screehshots and how to enable it.
[16:32] <mechanist> I have a partition with this extension on fdisk: W95 Ext'd (LBA). With what filesystem I have to mount it?
[16:32] <seachcoz_> dr_WILLIS my problem is aboutr ubuntu unity 11.04 compiz ccsm
[16:32] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, read the instructions.  SPACE bar at the key/keyboard 1st screen, F6 at menu - then select NOMODESET
[16:32] <jingo255> do you have to be in linux? cause I can't even get it to start
[16:32] <spettro> list
[16:32] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  yes. we know that... do we have to play 20 questions to hear what the actual problem you are having is?
[16:32] <seachcoz_> i need help
[16:32] <wols> mechanist: that is not partition to mount but an extended partition that holds other partitions
[16:32] <seachcoz_> ok
[16:32] <jingo255> I get a purple screen, then it goes to a black screen with blinking cursor
[16:33] <seachcoz_> well my problem is
[16:33] <jingo255> I dont get to select anything
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: thank you again
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, sorry the guy/keyboard screen
[16:33] <seachcoz_> IF I MOVE A WINDOW to the edge of the desktop
[16:33] <seachcoz_> and i want to maximize it
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: can I another question?
[16:33] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm searching for plymouth themes. THNX and I'm sorry because of my english
[16:33] <jingo255> the guy/keyboard screen acts like its frozen, unresponsive
[16:33] <seachcoz_> it maximizes on another virtual desktop
[16:33] <wols> mechanist: never ask if you can ask. never
[16:33] <Arth> hi guys
[16:33] <dr_willis> smmsadrnezh,  theres a few in the default repos for  kubuntu and lubuntu i think. but as i said. i dont use them. i think they are pointless
[16:33] <mechanist> wols: ok
[16:34] <BluesKaj> leafpile, well, you're on the LTS path as you call it , right now . I assume you're on 10.04
[16:34] <Arth> i got a problem with  LibreOffice Base. Is tehre anybody who can use this application?
[16:34]  * ZykoticK9 think a factoid/wiki page needs to be created to address the issue seachcoz_ (an others) are having with the maximizing other screen thing
[16:34] <wols> mechanist: well? ask it...
[16:34] <harvi_svk> smmsadrnezh: you can find some plymouth themes in "synaptic package manager" type "plymouth" into search box
[16:34] <smmsadrnezh> dr_willis: I'm redistributing from ubuntu and I shoud change it
[16:34] <mechanist> wols: I have solved, thanks to you, the partitions matter under windows, now I am under ubuntu, and I want to create a new partition with the empty space I still have in the disk, but I don't know how fdisk works
[16:35] <seachcoz_> i hope you can help me
[16:35] <wols> mechanist: use cfdisk or partman or gparted (GUI)
[16:35] <mechanist> wols: gparted doesn't see my disk, so I've thought to create it with fdisk, this is fdisk output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633090/
[16:35] <seachcoz_> i hope you can help me#
[16:36] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  i belive thats a known bug. theres proberly a thread on it at the forums. and on askubuntu.com
[16:36] <wols> mechanist: cfdisk /dev/sda
[16:36] <mechanist> wols: oky, now I try
[16:36] <seachcoz_> really
[16:36] <seachcoz_> hehe
[16:37] <jingo255> can I edit the cd files so that it boots the install without a gui?
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, Alternate is a text/ncurses installer
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> !alternate | jingo255
[16:37] <mechanist> wols: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[16:38] <davis> Anyone here?
[16:38] <wols> mechanist: sorry. "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"  and gparted with "gksudo" "gparted"
[16:38] <BluesKaj> jingo255, do mean headless / no monitor ...like a server ?
[16:38] <wols> mechanist: how big is that disk?
[16:38] <jingo255> no
[16:38] <mechanist> wols: already done with sudo
[16:38] <jingo255> I think my graphics card is interferring with install
[16:38] <mechanist> wols: 500 teras
[16:38] <mechanist> pardon
[16:38] <mechanist> 500 gigas
[16:38] <Bravo> hi I installed ubuntu 11.04 and windows are crappy, disappearing and keep white traces when I move them, where is problem? can it be because I dont have grafic card?
[16:39] <Abhijit> Guest88585, just ask
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, on the first purble screen of the install do you see a stick man with a keyboard?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> jingo255, then ZykoticK9 adcice will work , alternate install is probly your best bet
[16:39] <BluesKaj> advice
[16:39] <jingo255> yeah
[16:39] <jingo255> but it doesn't do anything when i press keys
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> jingo255, press SPACEBAR when you see that
[16:40] <jingo255> ok I can try
[16:40]  * ZykoticK9 hope it really is SPACEBAR you need to press...
[16:40] <seachcoz_> sure
[16:41] <BluesKaj> I've never encountered that with the live cd , ZykoticK9 and i have a 6 yr old pc that needs the alternate
[16:41] <BajK> kubuntu doesnt release any pre-release kdes anymore? :(
[16:42] <Abhijit> BajK, #kubuntu
[16:42] <BajK> jaja
[16:42] <Mandrew> !ubuntu
[16:42] <BreakBeat> How do I go about saving a picture from a website for use as a background?  In Firefox, I cant find a ' save as ' option....
[16:43] <kratos> ola
[16:43] <kratos> saludos
[16:43] <Chheap> Is there a way to get ubuntu hotkeys ( ctrl + alt +t for terminal and ctrl shift alt + arrow  key to move windows in virtual desktops) to work in xubuntu?
[16:43] <pooltable> help download KDE 4.7 and look at it in a VBOX thanks
[16:44] <wols> BreakBeat: right click on the picture
[16:44] <mechanist> help! why cfdisk doesn't see my disk?? FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[16:44] <seachcoz_> more and more
[16:44] <Bravo> so can I use ubuntu without graphic card?
[16:44] <wols> mechanist: does fdisk /dev/sda say the say?
[16:44] <BreakBeat> @wols, I have, and it's not able to ' save ' or ' save as '  I'm not sure why it wont let me.
[16:44] <wols> *say the same
[16:45] <Bravo> cgdae
[16:45] <mechanist> wols: yes
[16:45] <wols> mechanist: where and how did you create your extended partition?
[16:46] <wols> Bravo: yes you can.
[16:46] <mechanist> I guess I've created it in linux... I don't remember precisely
[16:46] <wols> mechanist: what is in those 3 big ntfs partitions?
[16:47] <mechanist> wols: a virus messed up my partition table, and since that moment, gparted didn't see anymore my disk, while fdisk see it without problems.
[16:47] <mechanist> wols: all my personal datas and years of works.
[16:47] <solayagim> mechanist, what kind of virus?
[16:48] <mechanist> solayagim: I don't remember, I remember just to having got it with IE in some adult site
[16:48] <wols> mechanist: then make a backup
[16:48] <Frestorms> is it a bad idea to add my user to www-data
[16:48] <wols> Frestorms: no
[16:49] <Frestorms> wols, by default it's not added, how come?
[16:49] <mechanist> wols: can't do it, I didn't have any external disk, and the data are too many. In facts the partition I wanted to create now was just for backup
[16:49] <th0r> mechanist: a backup on the same hard drive as the data is not a real good idea
[16:49] <mechanist> th0r: indeed
[16:50] <solayagim> obviously
[16:50] <solayagim> bad idea
[16:50] <mechanist> th0r: but better than nothing
[16:50] <glenn_> hi
[16:50] <solayagim> mechanist, there are many ways to backup your data so how don't you find a way
[16:50] <pablo_> hi
[16:50] <mechanist> th0r: when I format windows, I'm able to store there all my datas that were in C
[16:51] <glenn_> how can i say that a pdf always must open with foxit reader
[16:51] <sudeep> hi all, i have an issue with sound of dell studio 15 laptop ubuntu 11.04,   the sound is not working and also the videos (youtube videos) play very fast and no sound, please help
[16:51] <mechanist> solayagim: In facts now I'm thinking about creating the partition with the windows installation.... if I recall correct there is an utility for partitioning
[16:51] <cmaxwell> what do you guys recommend for file sharing  from windows to ubuntu?
[16:52] <Abhijit> !samba | cmaxwell
[16:52] <bhavesh> glenn_: right click on your app, Open with > Other app >> select a app and check the checkbox below which says remember this for ...
[16:52] <cmaxwell> thank you
[16:52] <dr_willis> cmaxwell,  for just some quick file transfers. winscp on windows and ssh on linux . is proberly the easyiest thing to setup
[16:52] <mechanist> ok I'll start the windows intallation
[16:52] <mechanist> see ya later guys
[16:54] <bhavesh> wow windows 7 says my .gz file is only 125Kb whereas its actually 122Mb
[16:54] <Cradam> lol
[16:54] <glenn_> bhavesh, did you mean the file that i whan't to open
[16:55] <solayagim> debian 6.0.2 has been released btw
[16:55] <bhavesh> glenn_ yes
[16:55] <bhavesh> glenn_ it would probably always open that kind of file with your selected application
[16:56] <Chheap> Is there a way to open terminal with  ctrl+ alt + t in xubuntu
[16:56] <solayagim> yes Chheap there is
[16:56] <Chheap> Just installed 11.04 xubuntu and it did work in ubuntu
[16:56] <solayagim> under system > preferences
[16:57] <solayagim> there is keyboard shortcuts
[16:57] <solayagim> you can set any shortcuts in that option
[16:57] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks that is what i'm looking for. But how can i remove it when the file open with the wrong app
[16:57] <Chheap> actually there is no such thing in system
[16:58] <solayagim> Chheap, how is the graphics in xfce 4.8?
[16:58] <Chheap> only thing remote is settings manager wich has keyboard settings, but i cant add any new shortcuts
[16:58] <solayagim> glenn_ right click on the file and select open with sub menu
[16:58] <Benkinooby> i don't understand what I/O is. there is a i/o-grapher in conky, but i can not imagine what it is. i thought it might me disk i/o but it isnt.
[16:59] <Chheap> solayagim: fine, i gues. running on notebook though
[16:59] <ampletime> g'day
[17:00] <glenn_> solayagim, i whant to remove i for always so that i can select the wright program
[17:00] <bhavesh> glenn_: do the same thing and select the correct app with which you want to open it
[17:00] <solayagim> glenn_, right click on the any file, select the program you wish under open with submenu
[17:00] <solayagim> it can apply on any file types
[17:01] <glenn_> bhavesh, but than have the file will open with 2 app not ?
[17:01] <solayagim> if you see wrong program then remove it or add second program for one file type
[17:01] <bhavesh> glenn_ no
[17:01] <bhavesh> glenn_ : it will just open with the app which you select last time
[17:01] <solayagim> glenn_, please try it before then ask your question
[17:02] <Chheap> Ah now i managed to add the shortcut but how i add shortcut for moving windows inside virtual desktop, ctrl alt + left or right switches desktop but i want to move the window im using with ctrl shift alt and arrow key
[17:02] <frankcox757> Hi everyone - I am having trouble with Java on FireFox . I am unable to activate download links etc.
[17:02] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks man that is helping an not so as solayagim dos
[17:02] <frankcox757> Running LinuxMint Natty 64bit on dell 530-dual core with 2 gigs ram
[17:02] <frankcox757> New Mint is very fast-would appreciate any assistsnce
[17:02] <LOkilL0> suck me xd
[17:02] <dr_willis> frankcox757,  they have their own support channels
[17:02] <oCean> frankcox757: mint is not supported here
[17:02] <dr_willis> !mint | frankcox757
[17:03] <glenn_> i'm new to linux ubuntu i work 10 months with linux but not dayly
[17:03] <solayagim> frankcox757, did you installed java properly?
[17:04] <giggr> Linux
[17:04] <solayagim> is awesome :)
[17:04] <glenn_> bhavesh, thanks a man great help
[17:06] <patronymics> Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College: 100% Mossad did 9/11  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg
[17:07] <solayagim> what a boring day
[17:07] <frankcox757> There is no linux-mint-help now as .  spotchat does not work-If you would then please I am having the exact same problem with Ubuntu 11.04 , I gave up on it and installed Mint because it is supposed to work out of the box. In Ubuntu natty i seem unable to get rid of Iced Tea permanently. I have 6 0r seven Ubuntu installs and save Lubuntu on my tablet Pc Java is a mess on all.
[17:07] <bhavesh> in docky bar if 2 applications of same type are open they are shown under same icon, how could they be set to show differently?
[17:08] <dr_willis> enavble the partners repo and isntall sun java.. works fine for me.
[17:08] <cmaxwell> where can i change when my computer sleeps?
[17:08] <oCean> frankcox757: mint is offtopic here. Official mint support is at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[17:09] <pareidol1a> Has anyone tried to install 10.04 to an eSata drive? I am trying to, it's driving me nuts. Thanks!
[17:09] <Walex> cmaxwell: System->Preferences-Power Management
[17:09] <cmaxwell> thank you
[17:09] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  i have on external usb hds - you just jhave to pay attention to where the grub installer installs to
[17:10] <frankcox757> I have done that a dozen times -after I do it says to use apt-get remove on some files and iced tea is still there.Mint has sun java preconfigured, could it be my machine won't run ubuntu correctly?
[17:10] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: That's the thing, I made sure it was the correct drive, but still at boot Grub throws me into rescue with the error "file not found"
[17:10] <dr_willis> frankcox757,  you can have both installed at the same time. The 'alternatives'  feature of the os defines which one is the default.  You dont need to remove icedtea.
[17:11] <oCean> frankcox757: stop the mint discussion
[17:11] <solayagim> :)
[17:11] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  it could be the order of the drives are changeing if you boot from the external drive.
[17:11] <solayagim> so say we all
[17:11] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  ive seen that happen befor. but ive never used an external sata. only external usb.
[17:12] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: Yeah. I installed with internalHDD+NetBootinUsbStick+eSataHDD, now it's just internalHDD+eSataHDD
[17:12] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: But doens't Grub work with UUIDs and stuff?
[17:12] <frankcox757> I am taslking about Ubuntu now,
[17:12] <frankcox757> )Cean pleae pay attention, think before you speak .
[17:12] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  that ma be an issue.  - its supposed to use uuid. but i nioticed on this install my fstab was using /dev/sdXX entries for some reason.
[17:13] <pareidol1a> Grub2's configuration is REALLY difficult for someone used to classic, like me :'(
[17:13] <dr_willis> pareidol1a,  you could set up a spare flash drive and install grub2 to that as a 'rescue' grub also.  or as a test try unplugging tghe internal hd.
[17:14] <dr_willis> some times you just have to break down and read the grub docs.. i did it for lilo, grub, and syslinux and now grub2...
[17:14] <dr_willis> ive had less issues with grub2... but it can be harder to trouble shoot.
[17:15] <seachcoz_> dr_willis sure that is a bug
[17:15] <dr_willis> I have like 6 external hd;s on this box. :) grub can get real real confused.
[17:15] <aguitel> dr_willis, can i use command dd tu make booteable pendrive with ubuntu image iso?
[17:15] <pareidol1a> dr_willis: They way I understand it, first a default root device is set by variable assignment "set root='(/dev/sdd,msdos3)'" then the setting is overwritten with a search command "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root XXX-XXX-XXX..." right?
[17:16] <seachcoz_> dr_willis sure that is a bug
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  not with an ubuntu iso
[17:16] <bt> hi. my hardware power button (asus eee 1005p) doesn't work in 11.04. xev doesn't produce a keycode for it, only this http://paste.ubuntu.com/633112/. any way to enable it?
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  some other disrtos can be done that way
[17:16] <aguitel> dr_willis, only unetbootin or usb creator ?
[17:16] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  assume people on irc have the attention span of a goldfish... I havent a clue what you are refering to.
[17:16] <arshadhusain> hi all\
[17:16] <dr_willis> aguitel,  or other tools from the pendrivelinux web site
[17:16] <seachcoz_> dr_willis_ the window maximizing
[17:17] <arshadhusain> anyone here use 10.10?
[17:17] <aguitel> dr_willis, ok
[17:17] <seachcoz_> dr_willis_ and the moving on another virtual desktops
[17:17] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  ive seen others mention the issue.
[17:17] <seachcoz_> cool
[17:17] <seachcoz_> ok
[17:17] <dr_willis> you are thinking its a feature?
[17:17] <seachcoz_> yes
[17:18] <seachcoz_> because it was always so, that if i moved windows left or right they maximized then
[17:18] <dr_willis> I dont use unity. so  cant confirm or deny the behiavor.
[17:18] <arshadhusain> does anyone have problems with battery life??
[17:18] <seachcoz_> and now, because ubuntu, ubuntu has got 2 desktops vertical and 2 desktops horizontal its down and up too
[17:18] <seachcoz_> okay dr_willis what does you use
[17:18] <dr_willis> im using openbox+docky right now.
[17:18] <rampage73> any one solve the internet issue with ubuntu 11.04 yet? i have tried google, disabled ipv6 went into firefox about:config and disabled ipv6 even this chat took 3 minutes to load and i am on a 50/50 internet connection which has been tested and works any help would be appreciated
[17:19] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: unfortunately i tried to fix that but then i modified one settings in ccsm and then nothing worked again
[17:19] <arshadhusain> rampage73.. what kind of modem and router do u have??
[17:19] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: and then i tried to install kubuntu-desktop. but unity is still distroyed
[17:19] <seachcoz_> d
[17:20] <seachcoz_> hehe
[17:20] <rampage73> arshadhusain, uh my modem is a wireless bridge and it is the router also but i have 3 other computers on my network a mac and 2 windows pcs over wifi that pull 35 mbps down and 40 up and this pc is hardlined to the router and cannot run the test it times out
[17:22] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  unity --reset  , unity --reset-icons       normally kick unity in the head.
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ok dr_willis: normally i would like to use unity or gnome 2 but this is, as i already said, distroyed, so i have to use kde, xfce, lxde, fluxbox or i have to format
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ah thanks
[17:22] <bhavesh> winecfg is a GUI? where can I open it?
[17:22] <dr_willis> thers some other command to reset the ccsm settings
[17:22] <seachcoz_> ok
[17:22] <seachcoz_> thanks
[17:22] <dr_willis> bhavesh,  type its name in a terminal
[17:22] <seachcoz_> i will try
[17:23] <bhavesh> k
[17:23] <bhavesh> Oh its the same GUI which I always use... wine configuration thingy
[17:24] <dr_willis> yes it is. :)
[17:25] <thauriswulfa> HELP: when ever I am starting pulse audio volume control it says connection terminated and quits ........
[17:27] <dr_willis> seachcoz_,  you could have just made a new user.. and their unity settings whould of been fine :)
[17:27] <cawnc4> Hey, I am looking to further secure my data, I know you can encrypt the home folder, but how could i go about encrypting my whole drive? I searched Ubuntuforums to no avail
[17:28] <Osmodivs> Hello. Ok, so this program asks me for a LibBoost1.42 library, but in other program made me move some LibBoost1.43 libs to /usr/lib, so if I install LibBoost1.42 via Synaptic, is it gonna override the highest version?
[17:28] <dr_willis> cawnc4,  perhaps check the askubuntu.com site?
[17:28] <Osmodivs> I get this message when trying to compile: checking for boostlib >= 1.37... configure: error: We could not detect the boost libraries (version 1.37 or higher). If you have a staged boost library (still not installed) please specify $BOOST_ROOT in your environment and do not give a PATH to --with-boost option.  If you are sure you have boost installed, then check your version number looking in <boost/version.hpp>. See http://randspringer.de/boost for mor
[17:28] <Osmodivs> e documentation.
[17:28] <sudokill> cawnc4, i know you cant with truecrypt on linux there are probbaly a lot of other tools that can, but is there much point of encrypting root as well?
[17:29] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  yoiu did install the proper -dev packages as well?
[17:29] <Osmodivs> Like I said, I copied LibBoost1.43 files to /usr/lib manually
[17:29] <sudokill> most people dont have special info there
[17:29] <bhavesh> I want to add Sound preferences shortcut , I went to System > KeyBoard shortcuts > Add, what should be in Command textbox?
[17:29] <bhavesh> what command would open sound preferences box?
[17:29] <cawnc4> sudokill I would like to keep all of my info out of the hands of people that could take it, not just my documents but also what programs I have installed
[17:30] <cawnc4> etc
[17:31] <bhavesh> I guess its gnome-volume-control right?
[17:31] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, I do not know if it came with dev files, It was a compiled program, so it asked me -in order to function- to move libboost files to /usr/lib the program works fine, but I want to install another program that needs boost files, but for some reason, it will not detect the ones I have there in /usr/lib
[17:31] <dr_willis> bhavesh,  try it and see?
[17:31] <Cradam> how do i stop grub being in quiet mode?
[17:31] <bhavesh> YAY, yes it is
[17:32] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  if you are compiling somthing - you will need the lib boost dev packages as well.. that may or may not break the other app.  that other app should perahps look elsewhere for its libs.
[17:32] <bhavesh> I really have lots of things to fix on my ubuntu, the gnome-panel ... some items disappear, my ubuntu freezes sometimes for few seconds (only cursor is movable)
[17:32] <dr_willis> !info libboost
[17:33] <sudokill> Cradam, i think you can hold shift as it boots, or set the timeout to something other than 0 in grub.cfg
[17:33] <sudokill> or menu.lst
[17:33] <Cradam> shift is just stupid when you want a different OS]
[17:33] <Osmodivs> !libboost
[17:33] <Cradam> its grub.cfg
[17:33] <Cradam> whereever it is
[17:33] <sudokill> Cradam, set the timer on it then so it shows for whatever time u want 5 seconds etc
[17:33] <dr_willis> if youa re dual booting - its suppose to set its self to show.. no thide
[17:34] <dr_willis> !grub2
[17:34] <technicolor> ty all. have a good day/night. bye :)
[17:34] <dr_willis> its a setting in /etc/default/grub
[17:35] <sudokill> Cradam, shift isnt that bad lol i use the f buttons to choose what drive i want to boot off
[17:35] <Cradam> sudokill, thats bonkers
[17:35] <sudokill> @_@
[17:35] <dr_willis> i got my laptop set the samwe way.. grub2 dosent need to be on my windows drive at all
[17:36] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, So, You don't know if libboost1.42 is gonna replace 1.43? I want to know if different versions of libs can work at the same time
[17:36] <sw0rdfish> hey guys is there a command to check the size of a directory?
[17:36] <bhavesh> why does this happen to my power button? http://i.imgur.com/Q2he3.png
[17:36] <Cradam> hmm the setting is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true lol
[17:36] <osse> sw0rdfish, 'du -s dirname'
[17:36] <weokoh> hi everyone, i know this is probably off topic as it should belong to #sanitarium  or #ucrazybro  but I would like to ask some questions about ubuntu (perhaps this involves Linux in general)  and web browsing, I'm well aware i should leave the windows mindset and worry less since Linux is more secure and less prone to "you click you get owned" stuff but recently i have started to supply a web browsing service (internet point wannabe) to people that aren't t
[17:36] <weokoh> hat aware of scam sites viruses and so, even though its hard to get a virus on Linux could anyone suggest me some ways to make it harder for any potential threat coming from the web (please note i say web as web pages, not usb keys and all that) while using firefox? many thanks in advance to anyone who could save my lil brain from this paranoia lol
[17:37] <sudokill> change from true to false?
[17:37] <osse> sw0rdfish, you might want to add '-h' to that as well
[17:37] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  libs normally have a libname-#.## version thats a link to  the libname-#.so   so if that one app is is doing it right - it shoudl either look for the specific version of the lib it needs.. or use the newer version.
[17:37] <oCean> !ufw | weokoh
[17:38] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  you can have differnt versions installed just fine.. if the apps use them correctly
[17:38] <sudokill> weokoh, look at apparmor
[17:38] <weokoh> oCean: forgive my ignorance, would ufw make web surfing with firefox safer?
[17:38] <Osmodivs> dr_willis, In that case, I will install libboost1.42
[17:38] <weokoh> sudokill: did it, im enforcing the firefox default profile, could you give me some informations about it please? what it protects what no? on various forums i read the "default one" is not enough
[17:39] <dr_willis> Osmodivs,  if you want to run that app that needs it.. well :) i guess you will. heh
[17:39] <sudokill> default one is ok
[17:39] <dodino_> hi all
[17:39] <weokoh> sudokill: would you suggest anything else?
[17:39] <oCean> weokoh: firefox is not ubuntu-specific. Ask an ubuntu specific question
[17:39] <sudokill> weokoh, youd need to look at apparmor threads, you can restirct the program how you like e.g only let it write to your downloads folder etc etc
[17:39] <weokoh> oCean: in fact im asking how to harden it on ubuntu, is it still off topic?
[17:39] <dr_willis> worse case - firefox trashes the users home.. not the whole system.
[17:40] <sudokill> weokoh, what r u actually afraid of? itshould be fine even without apaprmor
[17:40] <dodino_> i have installed an ubuntu alternative 11.04 32bit on a USB stick, with all partition crypted (excluding /boot of course)
[17:40] <dr_willis> but ive not heard of any issues with ff.
[17:40] <sudokill> use the usual noscript
[17:40] <hiexpo> hola
[17:40] <dodino_> but, i can't execute the usb stick on MACOSX, only in PC
[17:40] <weokoh> noscript + apparmor + limited user account + no js at all (just images)  but ye im still kinda scared lol
[17:40] <Nisstyre> yes
[17:40] <weokoh> sudokill: do you know what would be the worst thing that may happen using that setup?
[17:41] <dr_willis> weokoh,  sounds liek 1/2 the web may not work for your setup
[17:41] <sudokill> weokoh, if apparmor is set up good then i doubt much could happen at all
[17:41] <dodino_> anyone can help me for resolve this problem? i want a full ecnrypted ubuntu in USB stick that can boot in all platform (PCs and MAC)
[17:41] <sudokill> if ur really that paranoid then you could harden yur whole system, use apparmor and grsecurity whatever its overkill for desktop
[17:41] <dr_willis> !info bastille
[17:41] <bt> hi. my hardware power button (asus eee 1005p) doesn't work in 11.04. xev doesn't produce a keycode for it, only this http://paste.ubuntu.com/633112/. any way to enable it?
[17:42] <weokoh> sudokill: what you mean by setup good? i only enforced the ubuntu profile
[17:42] <sudokill> weokoh, imo your being too paranoid, the fact you cant get viruses on linux is a major security bonus over windows as it is
[17:42] <weokoh> dr_willis: bastille sounds interesting, sadly last time i tried it (years ago) i trashed the whole system lol, might give it a try again perpahs more carefully :P
[17:43] <weokoh> sudokill: your opinion is shared by me too, im way too paranoid lol
[17:43] <sudokill> with hardened kernels your gona have to put in work, to get a usable system
[17:43] <dr_willis> weokoh,  trashing the system,.. was its major feature. :) ive not even heard about it in years.
[17:43] <weokoh> dr_willis: heard of what?
[17:43] <sudokill> bastille... yea
[17:43] <sudokill> i never used that
[17:43] <dr_willis> weokoh,  theres the old 'make the root system read only' tricks also. -
[17:43] <sudokill> grsecurity is the easiest imo
[17:43] <dr_willis> bastille did a lot of neat tricks. but you just dont hear it mentioned much these days.
[17:44] <dr_willis> I was suprised it was in the repos.
[17:44] <weokoh> sudokill: you think i would have major advantages using grsecurity? can you briefly (i dont want to flood the channel with our convo) list some of its advantages?
[17:44] <weokoh> dr_willis: i couldnt login anymore it would say admin  restricted the access rofl
[17:44] <sudokill> weokoh, it depends, what do you do? just browse the web? grsecurity has a lot of features... randomization etc
[17:44] <sudokill> too many to list
[17:45] <weokoh> sudokill: just browse the web, no servers if thats the question
[17:45] <weokoh> well that pc does just that
[17:45] <weokoh> and IM probably (i never seen anyone using empathy there tho lol)
[17:45] <sudokill> im into security too and wouldnt say im paranoid, i just like the though of having a hard system. ur best best is to use ubuntus apparmor bult in
[17:45] <sudokill> its th easiest
[17:46] <weokoh> sudokill: what you mean "im into security"
[17:46] <sudokill> i like to make my comp secure
[17:46] <sudokill> lol
[17:46] <sudokill> i am no expert or anything !
[17:46] <weokoh> sudokill: yeah that was a dumb question lol, i meant to ask, you do anything "more" than what you suggested?
[17:47] <sudokill> there are some guides, read the ubuntu security thread, read the gentoo security handbook, and use apparmor
[17:47] <weokoh> sudokill: i dumped windows in 2003 because of antiviruses, didnt want to think something so crappy was running with admin privileges LOL
[17:47] <sudokill> :)
[17:48] <weokoh> sudokill  dr_willis: thank you very much for all the info, much much much appreciated :D
[17:48] <weokoh> sudokill  dr_willis: next is calling the sanitarium and lock me in
[17:48] <sudokill> just have a read around youll find loads on google
[17:48] <sudokill> its too broad subject for irc
[17:49] <weokoh> most of the hardening guides just said enable the firewall and install noscript O.o
[17:49] <weokoh> or install ids which isnt really what i need i hope
[17:49] <sudokill> sysctl settings, password settings etc
[17:51] <weokoh> sudokill: being a lil more paranoid than what reality offers (yet i never seen a linux user getting harmed by a website, and many claim that they go on adult ones LOL) would you say that my setup is fine for now? i may take some time to grub documentation but they ll keep using internet and go on malware filled (i suppose only for windows but the js is a cross platform threat) sites
[17:51] <weokoh> ops he/she left
[17:51] <weokoh> ok well
[17:51] <weokoh> thank you everyone
[17:51] <weokoh> have a nice day
[17:58] <serard> re
[17:58] <serard> dites, on peut installer gnome3 tout en gardant gnome 2 ?
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> is it possible to copy files from a nfs mount and retain the usernames
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> instead of getting the uid's
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> i don't want the numbers, i want the names
[18:00] <TheMatrix3000_> because im moving from a local user server to a server that uses ldap
[18:04] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: The numbers are what is actually stored on the files.  The names are looked up (from /etc/passwd) by software.  This (I'm sure) does not mean you can't use ldap
[18:05] <TheMatrix3000_> i prolly have to do a chown on the new server correct
[18:05] <TheMatrix3000_> because the user number id's dont match
[18:05] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: Yeah probably?  Now we're getting into things I don't know much about.  (ldap)
[18:06] <skegeek> I'm having problems using WinSCP, trying to upload a file to user's home directory and getting permission denied?
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> ls
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> ac wrong window
[18:06] <TheMatrix3000_> yea, i am sure thats it
[18:06] <eisvogel__x> 1
[18:07] <TheMatrix3000_> im going to try it
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> yep
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> it worked
[18:08] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: yay
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> now on the normal server it is showing the uid number
[18:08] <TheMatrix3000_> and on the server that is using ldap now has his name
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> i wish i knew how to make a script for this
[18:09] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: the 'normal' server (in this case) is an LDAP client.
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> no
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> the normal is using file authentication
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> the new server is using ldap authentication
[18:09] <TheMatrix3000_> same usernames just different uid numbers
[18:10] <skegeek> any help for the file transfer problem?
[18:10] <Nobgul-bnc> skegeek, 1 second ill help u just need a coffee
[18:11] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: You're confusing me (and maybe you).    Cause it being a 'server' can get confusing.  The machine that is using ldap authentication is probably a 'server' in some capacity.  In respect to ldap it is a client.  (unless it is the ldap server?)
[18:11] <edbian> skegeek: What's the problem?
[18:11] <LibertyBeta> Any one able to give me a little help with a toshiba Tecra?
[18:11] <skegeek> I try to upload to my user home directory and get permission denied.
[18:12] <Nobgul-bnc> skegeek, are you using the root login or yours?
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> well, im using ltsp, so in all references it is a server
[18:12] <edbian> skegeek: What do you mean 'upload' ?
[18:12] <skegeek> my own user login.
[18:12] <wols> skegeek: upload how?
[18:12] <Quantum_Ion> What do I do with an old PCMCIM modem ?
[18:12] <Nobgul-bnc> winscp
[18:12] <skegeek> I connect via WinSCP
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> we have a ltsp server acting as a ldap client
[18:12] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: Ahhh :)
[18:12] <TheMatrix3000_> and an ltsp server not using ldap
[18:12] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: confusing! :)
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> we are moving from a ltsp server not using ldap to one using ldap
[18:13] <Nobgul-bnc> wols and edbian, if you want to help in ima go make another pot of coffee
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> i am copying the home directories from one to another
[18:13] <edbian> Nobgul-bnc: I wanna help but you're leaving!
[18:13] <coldpizza72i> ok so im still having trouble connecting to the computer whose ip i think changed, what do i do, its headless
[18:13] <TheMatrix3000_> and need to retain the user permissions
[18:13] <coldpizza72i> i dont have access to the router
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> panel
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap the subnet
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> whats the command
[18:14] <edbian> TheMatrix3000_: to make a script just but #!/bin/bash at the top of a file, write the commands in the file, make it executable with chmod, and run it using ./fileName
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: do you know a service that box provides?
[18:14] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap
[18:14] <edbian> wols: It provides DHCP
[18:14] <edbian> ?
[18:14] <coldpizza72i> wols: no flags?
[18:15] <wols> edbian: I doubt it does
[18:15] <UserX7> how to overcome GPG error when signatures not verified/public key not available?
[18:15] <edbian> wols: It's a router isn't it? :P
[18:15] <wols> UserX7: pastebin the output of your apt command
[18:15] <coldpizza72i> wols: there are no flags with the nmap?
[18:15] <wols> edbian: ask coldpizza72i but I doubt it
[18:15] <wols> coldpizza72i: there are
[18:16] <coldpizza72i> what should i use then
[18:16] <wols> you should use nmap, I just told you
[18:16] <coldpizza72i> but what flags should i use
[18:16] <edbian> wols: he wants to know what flags
[18:16] <UserX7> wols: http://pastebin.com/Mjx6h3KZ
[18:17] <wols> I cannot say since I don't know your network layout
[18:17] <edbian> coldpizza72i: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>/24      (my guess at your network subnet cause that's very common for an in-home router)
[18:17] <coldpizza72i> wols: niether do i... im at school
[18:17] <wols> UserX7: the output. not just a tidbit
[18:17] <wols> coldpizza72i: you ahve access to that LAN the box is in?
[18:17] <edbian> coldpizza72i: If you're on the schools network (and have no router of your own) then my command is probably wrong
[18:18] <LibertyBeta> Hrm.... can't seem to get my pressure sensitivty to work on this toshiba tecra m4. Any one got any suggestions?
[18:18] <UserX7> wols: http://pastebin.com/DX8uyPiU
[18:18] <coldpizza72i> edbian: whats the 24 represent?
[18:18] <wols> coldpizza72i: you need to give us much more info if you want help
[18:19] <adac> Icanot change vpn password since save button is always disabled... any ideas?
[18:19] <edbian> coldpizza72i: The subnet size.  It says hold the 192.168.1.  part steady and change the last number (goes through all possibilities 0 - 255)
[18:19] <wols> UserX7: it wants to solve a captcha and needs cookies for that. I can't access it
[18:19] <wols> !paste
[18:20] <UserX7> wols: just refresh it
[18:20] <th0r> wols: edbian do I understand this correctly. coldpizza72i needs to find the address of a server on a school network...he doesn't have access to the server....and you guys are helping?
[18:20] <edbian> coldpizza72i: however, it is a guess.  and if you're on a school network it is most likely wrong
[18:20] <behroz> tutorial install scaner nessus ??
[18:21] <coldpizza72i> okay let me re explain
[18:21] <UserX7> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/633139/ :-)
[18:21] <edbian> th0r: I was under the impression we were trying to find access to a home router.  Then he dumped this school network business on me
[18:21] <wols> th0r: not enough info to decide, yet. and if he has credentials to log in via ssh, then he obviously is entitled to no?
[18:21] <th0r> wols: if you say so
[18:21] <coldpizza72i> I have a desktop 3 feet away from me that is headless..... and i think the ip address changed which is why i cant connect from my laptop
[18:21] <edbian> coldpizza72i: Ohh! :)
[18:22] <bil21al> i have perform the code to req my nice but no mail came on my mail adress  ???i m reg or not??
[18:22] <edbian> coldpizza72i: It probably did change (dhcp)  What is the IP of the laptop ?
[18:22] <wols> UserX7: not an error per see. gpgl itself errors, but for apt it's maximally a warning, annoying but no biggie. if you want to get rid of it, add the ppa's key
[18:22] <JoeSniffy> hey
[18:22] <edbian> coldpizza72i: I do this all the time :)  not always successfully :(
[18:22] <wols> coldpizza72i: so are you in the same subnet as this desktop?
[18:22] <JoeSniffy> need some help with mounting my harddrive
[18:22] <behroz> tutorial install scanner nessus in ubuntu? :-(
[18:23] <io> !mount | JoeSniffy
[18:23] <wols> !info nessus
[18:23] <JoeSniffy> keep getting the error: unable to mount error 21
[18:23] <coldpizza72i> wols: im assuming not on the same subnet....my laptop is wireless connection acouple rooms down and my desktop is wired to my room
[18:23] <JoeSniffy> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:23] <wols> coldpizza72i: you must know the subnet and preferably a service this desktop provides, e.g. ssh
[18:23] <behroz> gnome
[18:24] <miceiken> Is there any way to undo a rm -rf?
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> wols: yes the desktop has ssh
[18:24] <wols> JoeSniffy: then pastebin the command and the full output you get
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> how do i know the subnet
[18:24] <behroz>  ubottu:: gnome
[18:24] <wols> coldpizza72i: do you know the old dhcp IP it had?
[18:24] <coldpizza72i> yes
[18:24] <wols> what is it?
[18:24] <io> !undelete | miceiken
[18:25] <coldpizza72i> wols: <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:25] <miceiken> !ext3
[18:25] <elyawy> sound problem with ubuntu on mac - imac intel all versions of ubuntu
[18:25] <wols> coldpizza72i: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>/24  is a basic scan and should tell you which hosts are up
[18:26] <coldpizza72i> wols: it looks like that command is not making and progress
[18:26] <coldpizza72i> any*
[18:26] <JoeSniffy> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[18:26] <JoeSniffy> then I go to the folder and nothing
[18:27] <coldpizza72i> nevermind its going
[18:27] <uploaded> hello, i have a native ipv6 connection and usenet works great in windows. for some reason yesterday the ipv6.google.com link worked in ubuntu and also pinging ipv6 ip-s. not it looks disabled but the terminal said it's enabled. i'm on lucid. any ideas? thanks
[18:27] <edbian> coldpizza72i: it take a bit
[18:27] <behroz> ubottu:: ubuntu 10.10 desktop environment gnome i'm tutorial install nessus  ?
[18:28] <Roman-17> Привет
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> whois Trigger__
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> oops
[18:28] <MrMichaelHill> lmao
[18:28] <JoeSniffy> through the chaos does anyone know how to solve the error 21 code while attempting to mount
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hi
[18:29] <MrMichaelHill> any Ubuntu 64bit UT2004 gamers on here? :)
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im on the terminal and i want to repeat a command x number of times
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> what is the easiest way?
[18:29] <behroz> ubuntu 10.10 desktop environment gnome i'm tutorial install nessus  ?
[18:29] <wols> JoeSniffy: yes I do mind
[18:29] <foo__> hello all
[18:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: a script
[18:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i tried repeat it said command not found
[18:30] <sw0rdfish> osse, thanks about du -sh btw
[18:30] <sw0rdfish> :)
[18:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ?
[18:30] <foo__> i want to install a old version of java "java 5 update 20 " but he issue is the file on the oracle site is .bin file is there any way i can get a version for ubuntu
[18:31] <BluesKaj> idrinkkkkkbeer, just use the up arrow key to retrive the pervious command
[18:31] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: use a script
[18:31] <BluesKaj> err previous
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i need it repeated 1000 times
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i can't press up arrow that much
[18:31] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: for I in {1..N}; do command_here; done (replace N with the number of times you want the command to run)
[18:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> just a one line dd command
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> trism must be some error
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {I...N}; you mean?
[18:32] <coldpizza72i> 256 ip address 4 up
[18:32] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: no, only 2 dots, did you forget the do?
[18:32] <coldpizza72i> i just try the 4 then right
[18:32] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok so the entire thing is
[18:33] <th0r> coldpizza72i: I have to ask...why would you put a 'headless server' on a dhcp broadband connection belonging to roadrunner?
[18:33] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: simple example; for I in {1..5}; do echo $I; done
[18:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> $: for I in {1..1000}; my command; done
[18:33] <coldpizza72i> th0r: what does roadrunner have to do with anything
[18:33] <ce_17> kepet kabeh
[18:33] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: you need the do, for I in {1..1000}; do something; done
[18:33] <th0r> coldpizza72i: they own the ip address in charlotte
[18:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> and is there a way to stop this from running if it is too slow
[18:34] <ce_17> hahahahhahahaa
[18:34] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: ctrl+c should stop it
[18:34] <coldpizza72i> th0r: why does it matter that it belongs to road runner though
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> does this for I in... work in ubuntu also?
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> on the terminal
[18:34] <sudoKILLALL> anyone
[18:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: It is the text of a script
[18:34] <sudoKILLALL> seen this error before?
[18:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> what
[18:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: a... program
[18:35] <sudoKILLALL> while trying to mount ntfs systems?
[18:35] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im going to enter it on the terminal as root
[18:35] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:35] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: well don't do it as root unless you  need to do it as root
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> needs
[18:36] <adac> I cannot change vpn password since save button is always disabled... any ideas?
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> thanks for help!
[18:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> all
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:  anyone
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> ?
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> I've tried fsck
[18:37] <sudoKILLALL> I've tried ntfsfix
[18:38] <Cuchulainn> anyone how to go about fixing the fact that my keyboard driver at logon is different than once i'm logged into session?
[18:38] <WakeRider89> installed Ubuntu on win7 PC and it killed my wifi connectivity in both operating systems? any suggestions?
[18:39] <edbian> WakeRider89: Is there a wireless card appearing at all on either?
[18:40] <wols> WakeRider89: use rfkill to check?
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <sudoKILLALL> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:41] <FloodBot1> sudoKILLALL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <aar> Hi, does Ubuntu 10.04 support the use of any finger print scanner?
[18:42] <sudoKILLALL> Anyone ever seen this error before? Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:42] <sudoKILLALL> how do you solve this error?
[18:42] <kingvillage> is it danger if i boot my netbook with ram less than 1 GB with generic pae kernel.
[18:43] <wols> kingvillage: no
[18:43] <edbian> kingvillage: I don't know.  Why do you want to?  (probably not)
[18:43] <wols> sudoKILLALL: mount -t ntfs-3g....
[18:43] <kingvillage> @wols thank, @edbian I want to get my best performance...
[18:44] <edbian> kingvillage: the pae-kernel will do nothing for your system. The purpose of it is to allow the use of more than 3.2Gb of ram on 32 bit hardware
[18:44] <wols> kingvillage: then why use a PAE kernel?
[18:44] <WakeRider251> installed Ubuntu on win7 PC and it killed my wifi connectivity. any suggestions?
[18:44] <sudoKILLALL> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk and then cd /media/disk ls but nothing shows up
[18:44] <gasull> Hi.  I'm getting this error when I try to run Brain Workshop: http://dpaste.com/559403/  Any clues?
[18:45] <LjL-Webchat> test
[18:45] <kingvillage> can you help me?..I want to switch user like using GNOME but for icewindows, what command should I do?
[18:46] <sudoKILLALL> no luck with mount -t ntfs-3g
[18:50] <yeats> sudoKILLALL: did mount give you an error, or did it just come back to the prompt?
[18:50] <Gh0Sty2k> Hi folks, im very new to ubuntu and am trying to install an application but it says too many symbolic links, how can i correct this by erasing the symbolic links?
[18:50] <sudoKILLALL> yeats: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 21:
[18:51] <Abhijit> Gh0Sty2k, which application and how you are installing it?
[18:51] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: what is the program?  do you know why there are so many sym linkes
[18:51] <Gh0Sty2k> eset for linux, copied the install file to the desktop and tried to double click
[18:51] <Gh0Sty2k> came up with the error please install the following packages /usr/lib/gconv/utf-16.so
[18:51] <BluesKaj> sudoKILLALL, try this sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdaX /mnt ..sub X in sda for your partition
[18:52] <Gh0Sty2k> any ideas?
[18:52] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: go to a terminal and show us with "ls -l" in that directory the file
[18:52] <Gh0Sty2k> ok
[18:53] <sudoKILLALL> BluesKaj: nothing still
[18:53] <Gh0Sty2k> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2011-06-26 13:27 UTF-16.so -> /home/tahir/UTF-16.so
[18:53] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/usr/lib/gconv$
[18:53] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: do you use that disk in windows also?
[18:53] <sudoKILLALL> yes
[18:53] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: that is not a installation file
[18:53] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: try mounting it in wondows and make sure it cleanly unmounts then try again in linux
[18:54] <Billjuik> Hello?
[18:54] <Billjuik> :)
[18:54] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: seems like it was not cleanly unmounted and causing that exit 21
[18:54] <sudoKILLALL> IdleOne: I attempted that. I ran chkdsk in windows, and it came back clean
[18:54] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1352479.html
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~$ cd Desktop
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$ ls -l
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> total 37612
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> -rwxrwxrwx 1 tahir tahir 38511668 2011-06-26 13:12 eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:54] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$
[18:55] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: sudo  eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:56] <sudoKILLALL> IdleOne: I ran through all the steps in the last part of the forum... Chkdsk. Fsck. NTFSFix. Still the error occurs.
[18:56] <sudoKILLALL> Also GPARTED check
[18:56] <IdleOne> sudoKILLALL: not sure what else to tell you. maybe someone else here knows more
[18:57] <sudoKILLALL> may just try a clean install
[18:57] <sudoKILLALL> possible drivers problem
[18:57] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:~/Desktop$ sudo eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:57] <Gh0Sty2k> sudo: eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux: command not found
[18:57] <wols> sudo ./eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux    my bad
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> sudo ./eset_nod32av_32bit_en.linux
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> sorry wrong place
[18:58] <Gh0Sty2k> lol
[18:58] <IdleOne> Error: Permission Denied.
[18:58] <wols> IdleOne: it's 0777 according to ls -l
[18:59] <corrytonapple> !gpg | ubott
[18:59] <IdleOne> wols: not in this channel it isn't :)
[18:59] <Gh0Sty2k> says Please install the following files or packages: /usr/lib/gconv/URF-16.so
[18:59] <corrytonapple> !gpgerr | ubott
[19:01] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: do you have a particular reason why you're installing this program?  there are other antivirus/security programs available in the repositories...
[19:01] <corrytonapple>  !thanks | ubott
[19:01] <Gh0Sty2k> I've used it before and like the product so thought i should be able to install it without being limited to the apps in the repos
[19:01] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: you don't need antivirus, really
[19:02] <Gh0Sty2k> I know, but I would still like to install it as its a learning curve also.
[19:02] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: at most you need AV if you want to check files for windows clients
[19:02] <yeats> Gh0Sty2k: "should" is a tricky thing with computers ;-)
[19:02] <Gh0Sty2k> lol true
[19:02] <gasull> It seems my card driver is misconfigured: http://dpaste.com/559403/  I'm missing OpenGL support for my X server.  How can I fix it?
[19:03] <wols> gasull: run glxinfo |grep -i render
[19:03] <Gh0Sty2k> my problem is someone said the latest version does not contain the link to the package which is why i need to create a new symbolic link, when i tried it now = says too many symbolic links and i dont know how to delete them to start over
[19:03] <sarkis_> hey guys, anyone able to get inconsolata to look like osx on ubuntu?
[19:03] <sarkis_> seems they are much skinnier on ubuntu?
[19:03] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: why do you need a link? what for?
[19:04] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: you said you haven't installed it yet
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> let me get the link
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2733
[19:04] <Gh0Sty2k> thats what i followed
[19:05] <PeskyJ> find ./ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 -I xx mv xx/* .   ;  this is my attempt to move all files in subdirs to the current dir, but I get mv cannot stat 'dirname/*' no such file or directory for each dir - what am I doing wrong?
[19:05] <lulu> hi everyone, i have problems when i boot my laptop, it drops me to a busy box... any ideas?
[19:06] <sindile> can someone recommend a adsl2+ dualband N wireless router
[19:06] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: and you did get that dialogbox?
[19:06] <Gh0Sty2k> yup
[19:06] <gasull> wols: I don't have glxinfo and I can't install it :/  http://dpaste.com/559413/
[19:06] <webPragmatist> anyone familiar with csr creation?
[19:06] <Gh0Sty2k> thats also what i got when i did the sudo command you gave me
[19:06] <webPragmatist> i'm trying to create a csr from an existing key
[19:06] <gasull> wols: sorry, it was a typo
[19:06] <webPragmatist> sudo openssl req -new -keyout /etc/ssl/private/server.key  -out server.csr <<
[19:07] <webPragmatist> but it keeps overwriting the private key
[19:07] <bonhoffer> i have a bunch of files going from 1 to 4500 like s153.xml or hr2201.xml, i want to move all files < \w+(\d+)\.xml where (\d+) < 4400, anyone know how?
[19:07] <wols> gasull: yes :)
[19:07] <wols> gasull: so where on disk is that utf-16.so file?
[19:07] <bonhoffer> so i want to move all files with like xx4100.xml or xy1.xml, but not gg4800.xml
[19:08] <TEST_> hi
[19:08] <io> gasull: the package is 'mesa-utils' not 'msa-utils'
[19:08] <wols> bonhoffer: bash, python or perl script
[19:08] <TEST_> i need help
[19:08] <bonhoffer> wonder if i should use find with an exec
[19:08] <TEST_> i need help
[19:08] <io> !ask | TEST_
[19:08] <bonhoffer> wols: ok. i'll do a ruby script with a regex match
[19:08] <TEST_> i distroyed unity
[19:08] <webPragmatist> anyone?
[19:08] <io> gasull: oh you realised, sorry I was looking at the link
[19:08] <TEST_> because settings in ccsm
[19:08] <bonhoffer> just thought sed or the find command might be easiest
[19:08] <gasull> wols, io: http://dpaste.com/559424/
[19:09] <TEST_> i distroyed unity
[19:09] <TEST_> because settings in ccsm
[19:09] <TEST_> then i removed it
[19:09] <TEST_> and installed kde
[19:09] <FloodBot1> TEST_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Gh0Sty2k> so any ideas?
[19:09] <TEST_> how can i get unity back
[19:09] <wols> gasull: damn. what videocard do you have?
[19:09] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: first thing is to find the utf-16.so file on disk
[19:09] <TEST_> how can i get unity back
[19:09] <gasull> wols: not sure. How can I check?
[19:09] <TEST_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:10] <io> !info unity | TEST_
[19:10] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: are you running i386 of ubuntu? or amd64?
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> 1386
[19:10] <io> TEST_: simplest way is probably to purge and re-install that, if that's what you want to do
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> i386
[19:10] <wols> gasull: lspci |grep VGA
[19:10] <Gh0Sty2k> and cant find the file
[19:10] <wols> TEST_: create a new user and try to log in to X with that user first
[19:11] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: check /usr/lib32/gconv/UTF-16.so
[19:11] <dr_willis> TEST_,  the package manager tools do NOT touch settings in the users home directory. what you did was totally un needed
[19:11] <dr_willis> TEST_,   'unity --reset' and unity --reset-icons     should reset most things
[19:12] <TESTbe> Hi
[19:12] <TESTbe> i need YOUR HELP
[19:12] <gasull> wols: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> i only have lib64 not lib32
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> does that mean its a 64bit install?
[19:12] <wols> gasull: that one should work out of the box
[19:12] <Gh0Sty2k> as the eset is 32bit
[19:13] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: dpkg --print-architecture
[19:13] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html        <--  reset unity, and ccsm
[19:13] <wols> gasull: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hi
[19:13] <Gh0Sty2k> i386
[19:13] <TESTbe> can you help m,e
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im afraid that for I in {1...   did not work
[19:13] <aguitel> dr_willis, i am trying for the natty in this pc ,i know in other distros are bugs with the kernel and my video card ,is there way to install another kernel in natty ?
[19:13] <gasull> wols: I think an automatic update messed it up, since before Brain Workshop was working and also VLC with GLX
[19:13] <idrinkkkkkbeer> it said 'dd unknown'
[19:13] <dr_willis> aguitel,  ive never bothered with any kernels except the default ones.
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> is it really so difficult to get a simple command to repeat
[19:14] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: might help if you included details of what you were actually trying to do
[19:14] <wols> aguitel: there is always a way. not necessarily an easy one.
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> ok
[19:14] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  clarify the actual problem
[19:14] <TESTbe> i need helpß
[19:14] <TESTbe> can you help m,e
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i want to repeat this 1000 times
[19:14] <idrinkkkkkbeer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62
[19:14] <aguitel> wols, this is my video card:2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[19:14] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: your opening bracket is already wrong you pasted here
[19:15] <TESTbe> i need help
[19:15] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  its pointless to zero a drive out 1000 times.
[19:15] <idrinkkkkkbeer> how many times is good
[19:15] <wols> aguitel: it will work fine with pretty much any kernel
[19:15] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  once is enough
[19:15] <TESTbe> i need help
[19:15] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  state the actual problem.
[19:15] <io> !ask | TESTbe
[19:15] <TESTbe> well
[19:15] <gasull> wols: http://pastebin.com/Lmd2keus
[19:15] <TESTbe> i installed MANY Desktop environments on my PC
[19:15] <wols> Gh0Sty2k: find /usr -name utf-16.so
[19:15] <TESTbe> KDE; GNOME;  unity XFCE LXDE everything
[19:16] <aguitel> wols, 2.6.32 work
[19:16] <TESTbe> now i stay with UNITY !!
[19:16] <aguitel> wols, 2.6.38 not
[19:16] <sudokill> reinstall
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> this is what i wrote:  for I in {1...1000}; dd......; done
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> where is the error with bracket?
[19:16] <wols> gasull: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[19:16] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/$ find /usr -name utf-16.20
[19:16] <Gh0Sty2k> tahir@tahir-Satellite-L300:/$
[19:16] <TESTbe> should i reinstall my pc ?? because lots of this environments
[19:16] <wols> aguitel: you are mistaken. dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[19:16] <sudokill> TESTbe, its quicker and easier to reinstall
[19:16] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  why bother?  selexct unity at the GDM login screen and it will use Unity
[19:16] <wols> gasull: why is there an nvidia glx installed?  "dpkg -l |grep nvidia"
[19:16] <idrinkkkkkbeer> wols
[19:17] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: I told you several times, you need the word 'do' following the semicolon in the for loop (also only 2 dots in the {1..1000} expansion)
[19:17] <sudokill> TESTbe, or do as dr_willis said if you dont mind a load of mess left behind
[19:17] <TESTbe> dr_willis: i removed all environments only the unity i did not remove
[19:17] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: but I agree with dr_willis, running the dd 1000 seems pointless
[19:17] <TESTbe> but maybe its rests on my pc
[19:17] <TESTbe> and he is slower
[19:17] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: you use a {  bracket which is wrong. but overwriting the same sector 1000 is moronic
[19:17] <TESTbe> UNDER windows it is
[19:18] <trism> wols: it is correct syntax, type: echo {1..5}; in bash
[19:18] <gasull> wols: I don't know: http://pastebin.com/GjR0yZDw
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i isntall many things it will beslower
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i isntall many things it will bes lower
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> so it should be:  for I in {1..100}; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62; done
[19:18] <DriverIssues> Can someone help me with issues with opengl
[19:18] <PeskyJ> find ./ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 -I xx mv "xx/*" .   ; This gives the same results :( (quoted path)
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> any error in that
[19:18] <Gh0Sty2k> ok ill use an antivirus from the repos, lol
[19:18] <bil21al> can any one tell me how can i set time zone on oaunchpad account????
[19:18] <TESTbe> under windows
[19:18] <gasull> wols: I meant I don't know why I have nvidia glx installed
[19:18] <Gh0Sty2k> easier..
[19:18] <DriverIssues> I can't get hardware acceleration to work
[19:18] <dr_willis> !puregnome | TESTbe
[19:18] <TESTbe> if i install many things it will be slower
[19:18] <sudokill> TESTbe, the amoutn of things you have installed wont affect the speed only the things that are in use will
[19:18] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  it wont really be slower..
[19:18] <TESTbe> is it under linux too
[19:18] <TESTbe> ah thanks
[19:18] <edbian> DriverIssues: What card do you have?  I can fiddle around with ATI cards
[19:18] <TESTbe> under windows it is
[19:18] <wols> gasull: what notebook is this? it is a notebook?
[19:18] <DriverIssues> edbian, 8300 GS
[19:18] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  under windows.. it depends...
[19:18] <TESTbe> only a few programs and windows will be very slow xD
[19:18] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i dont understand the bracket problem, im only copying what you guys wrote before
[19:18] <gasull> wols: yes
[19:19] <DriverIssues> edbian, nvidia
[19:19] <aguitel> Wols ,http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420369/
[19:19] <gasull> wols: Lenovo 3000 V100
[19:19] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmm, what driver are you using now?
[19:19] <sudokill> TESTbe, in windows its easy to have a load of stuff autostart
[19:19] <sudokill> by itself
[19:19] <TESTbe> yes thats true
[19:19] <TESTbe> and the other thing is a problem with the window management
[19:19] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420369/
[19:19] <TESTbe> hope you will help me there too
[19:19] <sudokill> ?
[19:19] <dr_willis> !enter
[19:20] <sudokill> TESTbe, i dont understand what you mean
[19:20] <TESTbe> i have got unity with 2 VERTICAL and 2 HORIZONTAL desktops
[19:20] <wols> gasull: lenovo 3000 N series might have a geforce 7300 go,  V series ahve intel only. uninstall all those nvidia packages
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im confused
[19:20] <edbian> DriverIssues: I give you the 5 minute crash course.  There are two drivers, nouveau (open source) and nvidia (proprietary).  However there are like 7 or 8 different version of nvidia
[19:20] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I just installed the "nvidia glx 185" driver
[19:20] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  you may want to check ouit some of the bash tutorials. and work with a simpiler case.
[19:20] <vasundhar> I am faving font rendering issues with 2.6.38-10-generic #44-Ubuntu
[19:20] <TESTbe> but if a window is not in the center of the desktop 1
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> can someone just type it out  correctly
[19:20] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i'll say thanks and be out of your hair
[19:20] <TESTbe> and i try to maximize it it changes to desktop 2
[19:20] <bil21al> can any body tell me how can i set time zone in launchpad account???
[19:20] <TESTbe> but if a window is not in the center of the desktop 1
[19:20] <edbian> DriverIssues: That's one of the proprietary ones cause it starts with 'nvidia'
[19:20] <TESTbe> and i try to maximize it it changes to desktop 2
[19:21] <wols> !info nvidia-glx
[19:21] <dr_willis> TESTbe,  i belive earlier. people mentioned  that is a bug...
[19:21] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I'm fine with proprietary ones, I just want them to work :s
[19:21] <TESTbe> okay
[19:21] <wols> aguitel: what distro are you running?
[19:21] <edbian> DriverIssues: Additionally, if you have more than one driver installed at a time the system will likely get confused about which to use
[19:21] <TESTbe> i do not think so
[19:21] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Ok, so, how do I fix that
[19:21] <edbian> DriverIssues: 11.04 right?
[19:21] <aguitel> wols, debian now ,in ubuntu are notrunning
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> and now someone is saying my brackets are wrong
[19:22] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Yes, but defaulted to GNOME because of no hardware acceleration
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> but im doing it exactly like u guys said i should
[19:22] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  paste exactgly the command you are using...
[19:22] <wols> aguitel: then come back when you run ubuntu again. we cannot help you when you run debian and show us debian output
[19:22] <edbian> DriverIssues: Here are all the nvidia driver packages.  Make sure only one at a time is installed on your system.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[19:22] <edbian> DriverIssues: using synaptic is probably easier
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62
[19:22] <idrinkkkkkbeer> repeated 100 times, since every1 thinks 1000 is too much
[19:22] <aguitel> wols, i need to disable autologin in ubuntu (no x ) how do it ?
[19:23] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: more than once is too much
[19:23] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, what are you trying to do?
[19:23] <wols> aguitel: dunno
[19:23] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Um... can I use the ubuntu software center
[19:23] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Also, this is off a live disk, if that matters
[19:23] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im trying to do what that command does, delete a sector
[19:23] <edbian> DriverIssues: it won't list these packages
[19:23] <wols> sudokill: overwrite adobe flex DRM for photoshop
[19:23] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  and the EXACT command you were trying to do with the count and stuff was what?
[19:23] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  100 times is to much. Once is enough.
[19:23] <edbian> DriverIssues: that makes a big difference.  Have you installed Ubuntu at ll?
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Have I installed what at 11?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {1..100}; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=62; done
[19:24] <edbian> DriverIssues: hahaah,  installed Ubuntu at all
[19:24] <edbian> ?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> is there any error in that, other than repeating too many times
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I have a dead disk, nothing to install on
[19:24] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: Why do you want to do that so much ?
[19:24] <idrinkkkkkbeer> the world isnt going to end if i do it 100 times
[19:24] <DriverIssues> edbian:  I suppose I could find an old 1gig usb to install on, if that works...
[19:24] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmmm, this is a liveCD ?
[19:25] <trism> idrinkkkkkbeer: looks correct
[19:25] <DriverIssues> edbian:  yes, this is a livecd
[19:25] <idrinkkkkkbeer> because ebian i need that sector uncecoverable
[19:25] <idrinkkkkkbeer> un-recoverable to forensics
[19:25] <edbian> DriverIssues: the USB stick is a better option.  When you install / remove packages on the live CD when you reboot all the changes are lost (cause they can't be written to the CD).  You can save the changes with a USB stick.
[19:25] <sudokill> lol
[19:25] <gasull> wols: I removed the packages.  Still same error
[19:25] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: it is when you run that command once. after that it is unrecoverable
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> modern techniques like elcotron and magentic micro's can uncover beyond one write
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: you are wrong
[19:26] <stowoda> where is wastebin located?
[19:26] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: There is a very small increase in security with each right.  1000 is overkill but you can do it if you want.
[19:26] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, who on earth have u got on ur ass?
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: they cannot since the time of GMR heads
[19:26] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  we had a debate on that in here the other day...  survay said.. not true..
[19:26] <edbian> dr_willis: really?
[19:26] <lullabong> hi, i need your help! when i boot my laptop it drops me to busybox... what can i do?
[19:26] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Well, is there a way to transfer to a usb drive my current running OS?
[19:26] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: they could 23-30 years ago with RLL and MFM disks, but not today
[19:26] <dr_willis> edbian,  if i recall the discussion correctly... (well it was a bit of a fight..) :)
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> for I in {1..100
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> oops sorry
[19:26] <idrinkkkkkbeer> didnt mean write it again
[19:27] <edbian> DriverIssues: What's the difference between your liveCD and a new iso ?  (nothing?)  You can use the live CD to create a usb off the image that is the live CD.
[19:27] <DriverIssues> idrinkkkbeer:  I have a really good solution for you.  take out the drive.    Heat stove.  Melt disk.  Problem solved.
[19:27] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: put a drill through it
[19:27] <dr_willis> theres secure, theres paranoid.. then theres Tin-foil-hat paranoid....  100 times is tinfoil hat area..
[19:27] <sudokill> no, scure erase it, hammer it then burn it
[19:27] <wols> gasull: check if libgl1-mesa-glx is installed
[19:27] <sudokill> then cut it up into little pieces and bury them underground 10 miles apart from each other
[19:27] <dr_willis> Take the HD apart. the magnets really really work well for holding papers on the fridge.. and the disks make shiny mirrors!
[19:27] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Yep, but I have already made some changes, which I'm guessing now reside in RAM
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> does writing so many times to one sector 'damage' it physically?
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> wear and tear i mean
[19:28] <sudokill> yes
[19:28] <wols> gasull: and if it is. also you MUST restart X
[19:28] <DriverIssues> idrinkkkkkkbeeer:  Not enough to matter for a HDD.  For an SSD, yess
[19:28] <edbian> DriverIssues: they do, I cannot think of an easy way to get those onto a USB (although I'm sure it's possible).  It's probably not worth the effort.  What all have you done?
[19:28] <dr_willis> theres some crituical info in that one sector? :)
[19:28] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i wonder how many times i could run that before the hdd dies
[19:28] <wols> idrinkkkkkbeer: for a SSD overwriting a single sector is futile anyways due to wear leveling algorithms
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> hopefully a million times
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, with ssd secure erase can damage it if you do it like 1000 times
[19:29] <DriverIssues> edbian:  um... lets see....
[19:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: yeah, they get worn out but 1000 writes is so insignificant.  Additionally you're writing 0's when the system sees a 0 I bet it doesn't do the write.
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> yea i hate ssd's
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, with normal hdd they take a lot of wear and tear
[19:29] <gasull> wols: libgl1-mesa-glx is installed.  I should leave it and reboot, right?
[19:29] <idrinkkkkkbeer> probably i will run that with urandom before zero
[19:29] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: Have you used one?  They're fast!
[19:29] <wols> gasull: no you should restart X, not reboot
[19:29] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, what r u so paranoid about? geez
[19:30] <DriverIssues> edbian:  the mp3 codecs... flash... java plugin... chromium....
[19:30] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: But what if you end up writing the original bit sequence by mistake!?!?!
[19:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> yea but i need my hdd encrypted and ssd's dont perform well with that
[19:30] <oCean> ok, let's drop the how-can-i-destroy-my-hdd discussion?
[19:30] <edbian> DriverIssues: Oh that is one command to redo ;)
[19:30] <dr_willis> 'need them encrypted' :)
[19:30] <aguitel> wols, i try to boot again with ubuntu
[19:30] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, ssds and encryption is pointless
[19:30] <edbian> DriverIssues: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-ugyly flashplugin-nonfree java chromium-browser
[19:30] <idrinkkkkkbeer> i know sudokill
[19:30] <dr_willis> i did find this neat answer to repeating a command X amounts of time...
[19:31] <DriverIssues> edbian:  what do I need to redo?
[19:31] <dr_willis> http://www.stefanoforenza.com/how-to-repeat-a-shell-command-n-times/
[19:31] <edbian> sudokill: why is ssd with encryption pointless?
[19:31] <DriverIssues> edbian:  oh to redo that, I need only 1 command
[19:31] <gasull> wols: OK, restarting
[19:31] <edbian> DriverIssues: yeah
[19:31] <idrinkkkkkbeer> lol dr willis that is complicated
[19:31] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  no its not..
[19:32] <sudokill> edbian, well they perform he same as hdd with encryption (waste of ssd speed) and they can leake info due to the way they work
[19:32] <edbian> we should have used repeat
[19:32] <edbian> sudokill: mmm, interesting
[19:32] <sudokill> that imo is the only minus of ssd
[19:33] <edbian> I don't encrypt my partitions anyway
[19:33] <sudokill> i used to use truecrypt all the time for hdds
[19:33] <sudokill> for full disk
[19:33] <idrinkkkkkbeer> now your a pgp fanboy?
[19:33] <sudokill> nah i dont encrypt now either
[19:33] <sudokill> encryption is becomming sort of a trend like vms
[19:33] <sudokill> lol
[19:34] <oCean> edbian: sudokill this is (no longer) ubuntu-specific. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> of course, since u can get like a 200k fine for downloading a torrent these days
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> better safe than sorry
[19:34] <idrinkkkkkbeer> without the hdd no evidence
[19:34] <edbian> idrinkkkkkbeer: don't tell us you're doing illegal things
[19:34] <sudokill> idrinkkkkkbeer, depends where u live some laws can force u to reveal password
[19:34] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  I don't know if an ssd is going to slow down to hdd speeds, I daresay that's exagerrated
[19:34] <sudokill> it does, seen benchmarks
[19:35] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  What did they use?
[19:35] <whorush> hey, my buddy wants to buy a desktop with graphics integrated into the 880g chipset.  think he'll have trouble running two different resolution monitors in 11.04?
[19:35] <sudokill> truecrypt i think, and that is very fast
[19:35] <oCean> sudokill: enough
[19:35] <DriverIssues> sudokill:  Hm... interesting.
[19:35] <idrinkkkkkbeer> the only bad thing about tc is the forums
[19:35] <edbian> whorush: I think he'll have trouble running 2 monitors with onboard graphics at all on any os (is this a laptop?)
[19:36] <DriverIssues> so edbian:  I should go to a usb live disk before I even think about fixing drivers
[19:36] <wols> DriverIssues: you can always use a sandybridge CPU with AES-NI
[19:36] <trism> dr_willis: that is a pretty nifty solution, although you seem to lose access to the loop index, which can be useful sometimes. will have to remember it for later though, thanks
[19:36] <dr_willis> trism,  the comments also have a few neat tricks
[19:36] <whorush> edbian, it's a desktop, 880g chipset graphics and amd quad core
[19:36] <edbian> DriverIssues: Umm, I would recommend it.  Unless you wanna fix your drivers twice
[19:36] <DriverIssues> wols:  Oh, right, that's what matters.
[19:36] <edbian> whorush: Is 880g integrated?  or a separate card?
[19:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> im out, thx for help
[19:36] <DriverIssues> edbian: No, on vista I ran two monitors on a crappy integrated card
[19:36] <wols> edbian: integrated. radeon
[19:36] <idrinkkkkkbeer> if it doesnt work i'll back and angry
[19:36] <whorush> edbian, integrated into the chipset
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, i am in ubuntu wih no effects
[19:37] <DriverIssues> edbian:  880g is the name of a mobo, so it's intergrated
[19:37] <edbian> Thanks
[19:37] <edbian> DriverIssues: mmmm
[19:37] <dr_willis> idrinkkkkkbeer,  cut/paste the command in a script 1000 times.. and run the script
[19:37] <idrinkkkkkbeer> oh one last thing, if its working would i see the output 100 times or would it just be like a blinking cursor?
[19:37] <edbian> whorush: I think it is likely that it will NOT work but I can't say for sure
[19:37] <idrinkkkkkbeer> output is normally 512 bytes copies
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, what you want to know for may card?
[19:37] <wols> aguitel: dpkg -l |grep nvidia  and the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:37] <orwhatt> hi everyone, i need some help with synaptic (yup im a newbie :S) , i need some info about the "updates" tab in repositories, i see on the wiki that proposed and backport aare not (or better may not be) fully tested, now i seem to understand that only some people (mainly developers) can put stuff in the repos (please correct me if im wrong) does that mean that while they re not tested they re still somehow safe to install or that not tested means that some
[19:37] <orwhatt> random joe may put some nasty stuff in the repos?
[19:37] <aguitel> wols, ok
[19:38] <sudokill> orwhatt, its not likely bad stuff will be there
[19:38] <dr_willis> orwhatt,  they are not tested to be as stable as the normal stuff..
[19:38] <gasull> wols: it worked.  thank you :)
[19:38] <whorush> edbian, 880g is the name of the chipset.  they call the graphics something like integrated radeon 4250 or osmething.
[19:38] <DriverIssues> So I can use the very same iso that I used on the cd to put on a usb?
[19:38] <whorush> edbian, so you think there's a good chance it won't work, eh?
[19:38] <orwhatt> so that means they were put there by "trusted" (or at least well known) people?
[19:38] <wols> DriverIssues: yes
[19:38] <edbian> orwhatt: Things that are 'untested' means that not many users have used it to create bugs.  it is very unlikely that malicious software is in those repos.  Not anybody can submit a package to go in the repo but it is reviewed first (and open source of course)
[19:39] <IdleOne> orwhatt: it means that they are relatively safe to install but not tested yet, those packages may or may not break your system.
[19:39] <edbian> whorush: Yes, but that is not anything set in stone.  Does the machine even have two graphics ports?
[19:39] <whorush> anybody else think i'm gonna have problems running two different resolutoin monitors with amd graphics integrated into the chipset?
[19:39] <whorush> edbian, good question, i was wondering that myself :-)
[19:39] <DriverIssues> edbian and wols:  Crap.  Do I really need a 2 gig stick?  I only have a spare 1 gig
[19:39] <edbian> orwhatt: likely they are just bugging (and potentially very annoyingly buggy)  but it's very unlikely they're malicious
[19:39] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420383/
[19:39] <coldpizza72i> whats the price at now
[19:39] <LibertyBeta> Can some one help with with a tablet pc issue?
[19:39] <sudokill> DriverIssues, 2gb i think
[19:40] <aguitel> wols, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420385/
[19:40] <edbian> DriverIssues: It will git on 1Gb
[19:40] <dr_willis> whorush,  ive done it with Nvidia.. but never ATI.
[19:40] <edbian> fit
[19:40] <wols> whorush: it will probably work generally but you still will probably get various problems :) provided the mobo has two vga-outs
[19:40] <orwhatt> do i have to expect that they may be as malicious as the normal ones? (being potentially the same person who packaged and tested them)
[19:40] <DriverIssues> whorush:  It'll be technically possible - I did it on vista - but I'm not sure if it's that easy in ubuntu
[19:40] <sudokill> orwhatt, what do u mean malicious?
[19:41] <edbian> orwhatt: There is such a low probability of malicious software in any ubuntu repo (not PPAs)
[19:41] <IdleOne> orwhatt: rarely do people spend months/years gaining the trust to get upload rights just so they can introduce malicious code
[19:41] <whorush> thanks!  what if i buy  a cheap video card to do it with two ports?  would you prefer amd or nvidia driver-wise?
[19:41] <QuakeZone> Hi, I am new to this Ubuntu Linux. I am haveing an issue with the live CD, I get an error message as follows - (initramfs) stdin I/O error - mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs.
[19:41] <orwhatt> sudokill: litterally malware, if you consider it as anything that may harm my privacy / security
[19:42] <edbian> orwhatt: Any malicious code would quickly be noticed and removed even if someone did gain access
[19:42] <orwhatt> IdleOne: that makes alot of sence :)
[19:42] <dr_willis> whorush,  i would reccomend NVIDIA over ati.
[19:42] <sudokill> orwhatt, no there wont be, and if there was it'd be removed very quickly and all over the web
[19:42] <dr_willis> whorush,  and Intel over ati.. but intel dosent make stand alone cards that i know of. :)
[19:42] <edbian> orwhatt: I'm gonna be the bold one.  There is no malicious software in the repos at all
[19:42] <sudokill> talked about* lol
[19:42] <wols> aguitel: most likely your xorg.conf is fubar
[19:42] <dr_willis> edbian,  theres some addictive games! does that  count? :)
[19:42] <orwhatt> edbian: bold statements are the ones that make me shut up, thank you very much :)
[19:42] <aguitel> wols, sorry ,what is fubar?
[19:42] <whorush> dr_willis, ati drivers are still that bad?  i heard they got a lot  better?
[19:43] <wols> !fubar
[19:43] <orwhatt> thank you very much to anyone that answered my question, much appreciated, im getting to love ubuntu there is so much documentation and people willing to help lol
[19:43] <DriverIssues> edbian:  What does it mean to git, and I got my dad to lend me his 1tb external drive.
[19:43] <edbian> dr_willis: :)
[19:43] <dr_willis> whorush,  better then what they used to be.. unless you get unlucky...
[19:43] <wols> aguitel: google it. it's probably against the language policy in here
[19:43] <edbian> DriverIssues: I meant fit
[19:43] <dr_willis> whorush,  they will ahve to get a lot lot lot lot better.. befor i would even try ati again.
[19:43] <sudokill> orwhatt, it can be confusing, a bit like the "there are no viruses for linux" there's always people who say "but there has been".... irl they dont exist
[19:43] <edbian> DriverIssues: I think 1Tb will be enough.  Just install it normall on that! :P
[19:43] <aguitel> wols, what you recommend
[19:43] <edbian> Hopefully dad doesn't mind a partition
[19:43] <whorush> alright, thanks then!
[19:43] <orwhatt> sudokill: 1 reason why i switched from os x lol
[19:43] <whorush> bye bye!
[19:43] <DriverIssues> edbian:  Lol, I know.  Also, I have one more issue...
[19:44] <wols> aguitel: basically for nvidia to load you need to load it explicitly via xorg.conf. your installation doesn't do that and hence it doesn't work
[19:44] <dr_willis> all the viruses for linux that ive seen.. were specific service exploits.. but i may have missed a few. :)
[19:44] <nit-wit> many rootkits run in multiple OS's
[19:44] <edbian> sudokill: orwhatt The only viruses are proof of concept (many rely on social engineering).  There has never been a virus in the wild.
[19:44] <edbian> DriverIssues: sure?
[19:44] <wols> aguitel: the question is now how did your get to this point?
[19:44] <sudokill> edbian, thats what im saying
[19:44] <wols> edbian: wrong
[19:44] <sudokill> in real life they dont exist
[19:44] <DriverIssues> edbian:  my processor, according to hardinfo, is only running at 1ghz
[19:44]  * edbian regrets starting a flame war
[19:44] <edbian> DriverIssues: That is slow.  What is it supposed to be?
[19:45] <wols> sudokill: there is linux malware out there, in the wild
[19:45] <edbian> wols: Can you be more specific?
[19:45] <DriverIssues> edbian:  2.6  I have a feeling pstates got screwed up somewhere
[19:45] <dr_willis> for my nvidia systems.. i dont need a xorg.conf with them using the nvidia drivers.. the xorg.conf just sets up twinview and a few other settings.
[19:45] <edbian> DriverIssues: Mmm, I don't know anything about that.
[19:45] <wols> DriverIssues: speedstep or amd cool'n'quiet. it's a good thing
[19:45] <sudokill> wols, you can create malware yourself e.g. create a script that rm -rfs / then tell someone to run it
[19:45] <aguitel> wols, i use archlinux and same ussue occours (same kernel and same driver )
[19:45] <DriverIssues> wols:  but even when at 100% load, it's stuck there
[19:45] <wols> sudokill: no there have been actual epidemics with linux malware, on the internet
[19:45] <sudokill> up to you if you want to look at what you install...
[19:45] <DriverIssues> wols:  this is also a desktop
[19:46] <edbian> wols: Can you be more specific ?
[19:46] <wols> DriverIssues: ALL cpus for 5-10 years have powersaving built in
[19:46] <edbian> wols: Are we talking about a virus here?  Or just malware?
[19:46] <sudokill> wols, there was some on gnomelook website but that was very very rare
[19:46] <edbian> sudokill: wols That required the user to install it!
[19:46] <staff_nowa> Hello how can test fail2ban. max attempts for mail 1, but i can check password for 20 times
[19:46] <orwhatt> one last question, what would you think about using 2.6.21 (ubuntu kernel dont remember the release) and the iptables version of its release as hardware router? would it be good even though its outdated?
[19:47] <sudokill> but.... the easiest way to tell is if someone actually complains that they got malware and proves it, thats a more real life scenario
[19:47] <wols> edbian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Linux_vulnerability  virus and worms mainly
[19:47] <wols> sudokill: I agree it is very very rare, but they DO exist
[19:48] <QuakeZone> Hi, I am haveing an issue with the live CD, I get an error message as follows - (initramfs) stdin I/O error - mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs.
[19:48] <sudokill> i hope u didnt mean vulnerability there...
[19:48] <wols> orwhatt: no it would be bad
[19:48] <edbian> wols: These are not 'in the wild' because they are not spreading from machine to machine like for exmaple stuxnet
[19:48] <DriverIssues> wols:  Yes, but they should turn off properly when i need more power
[19:48] <edbian> wols: They do exist.  I think we are agreeing
[19:48] <Pskol> b
[19:48] <orwhatt> wols: mind if i ask you why it would be bad?
[19:48] <wols> DriverIssues: yes they do. run a program that uses the CPU and you will see
[19:49] <edbian> just because they should be doesn't mean they are
[19:49] <wols> orwhatt: cause it's not made for a router at all and very outdated and by now pretty certainly prone to exploits
[19:49] <sudokill> ok i agree of course there has been some malicious stuff for linux, but saying they do exist sounds bad, especially if windows users hear that because its completely different
[19:49] <orwhatt> wols: my actual router uses 2.6.20 (although not ubuntu i386) do i have to worry? lol
[19:49] <edbian> DriverIssues: I suggest you install to the HDD and fix the problems you have there.  It's likely some will just go away and others will replace them.  It's a waste of time to fix issues that are on the live CD
[19:50] <ikonia> chaps, maybe the malware discussion would fit better in offtopic ?
[19:50] <DriverIssues> wols:  I'll try with phoronix.
[19:50] <sudokill> sorry
[19:50] <DriverIssues> edbian:  ok.
[19:50] <edbian> sudokill: that's why I say they exist as proof of concept
[19:50] <edbian> I'm done
[19:50] <edbian> sorry! :P
[19:50] <edbian> DriverIssues: :)
[19:50] <wols> orwhatt: no. cause the vendor of your router might (and should have) patched it properly. the ubuntu one is by now probably !EOL and not patched anymore. also ubuntu is a general purpose distro. router distros are differently made
[19:51] <orwhatt> wols: vendor is linksys and they have last patched it in march 2010, you still say i can sleep tight?
[19:51] <wols> orwhatt: basically, you can run ubuntu as a "hardware router", but if you have to ask about it, you really shouldn't do it
[19:51] <orwhatt> this is off topic sorry everyone
[19:52] <edbian> wols: I disagree
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: ask away
[19:52] <wols> orwhatt: I don't know how linksys makes their router but you can sleep better than with a ubuntu install from 2010 as a router imho
[19:52] <oscar> hi every one, why Ubuntu 10.10 system force pidgin "uninstallation"?
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: Just update your ubuntu router to a LTS or the newest release
[19:52] <orwhatt> edbian: i asked, i was asking if 2.6.21 would have been good for a hardware router, wols said no then i wondered if id be fine since my actual one uses 2.6.20
[19:52] <wols> edbian: ubuntu runs about 10 times as much as it should for a router. and hence it is a bad idea to use it as one
[19:52] <edbian> orwhatt: That's too old.
[19:52] <orwhatt> edbian: i dont have one yet :P was just trying to find out how good it would be
[19:53] <edbian> wols: I didn't say it's the best OS for a router.  If he wants to he should be allowed to ask about it.
[19:53] <orwhatt> edbian: my actual router's firmware or using ubuntu to build up one?
[19:53] <sudokill> orwhatt, cant you just use a normal router? i use an old wrt54g with tomato firmware does everything, and dont take up a load of power
[19:53] <orwhatt> sudokill: i have  a wag320n, no custom firmwares :S
[19:53] <edbian> orwhatt: The actual router firmware will be easier.  A real machine will give you more control and teach you something
[19:53] <sudokill> ah ok, routers are cheap though
[19:53] <trinikrono> oscar: you can still install pidgin manually
[19:54] <orwhatt> sudokill: sadly not here lol it costed like 150$
[19:54] <edbian> orwhatt: putting custom firmware on a router is cool too
[19:54] <sudokill> orwhatt, 3rd party firmware is good though, iptables etc
[19:54] <orwhatt> edbian: sorry im a lil lost now, did you say my actual router firmware (linksys updated last march 2010) is too old or using ubuntu 2.6.21 to build one would be old?
[19:54] <wols> orwhatt: what is the reason you want to use ubuntu for a router? just for routing alone, it can't be?
[19:54] <orwhatt> sudokill: i know its good but bootloader is locked
[19:55] <orwhatt> wols: just for routing yeah, thought i may have a better control of it if i wasnt bound to the manufacturer
[19:55] <sudokill> orwhatt, youd be better off looking on ebay or amazon or something for a cheap router thats compatable with 3rd party firmware
[19:55] <sudokill> youd save the money in power bills alone
[19:56] <edbian> orwhatt: Oh!  I was confused before.  People generally don't ever update their router firmware.  Using 2.6.21 is old (needlessly! the new kernels are free too ya know)
[19:56] <wols> orwhatt: if you want that buy a cheap openwrt compatible router. your ubuntu router will probably cost more electricity in a year than such a dedicated small routerbox
[19:56] <edbian> orwhatt: Of course, for someone to attack your router they'd really have to know what they were doing.
[19:56] <orwhatt> sudokill: so you re somehow stating mine would not actually be good/reliable/secure?
[19:56] <sudokill> wols, lol u said exactly what i said
[19:56] <Cerrdor> so I am running Ubuntu in VM and it installed nice I ran it a few times and now my desktop is all grey and gross and not the black sleek look how can I get it back correct? I didnt change anything configuration wise
[19:56] <Guest87412> when downloading and installing packages which should i use universe or multiverse
[19:56] <orwhatt> wols: that makes alot of sence thanks
[19:56] <elyawy> ubuntu on my imac has no sound , it is an imac from early 2009 20 inch and the sound doesn't work on all versions of ubuntu anybody knows a fix?
[19:57] <wols> orwhatt: WR1043ND is very cheap, runs openwrt
[19:57] <sudokill> orwhatt, if u have a router, but you cant put 3rd party f/w on it its still good (for routing)
[19:57] <edbian> orwhatt: There is a big difference between guessing the default password on it on executing a known exploit for router firmware
[19:57] <oscar> trinikrono: yes, but every time I try to upgrade ubuntu, it forces me to uninstall pidgin.
[19:57] <trinikrono> Guest87412: you should enable the both
[19:57] <trinikrono> oscar: well thats very naughty
[19:57] <orwhatt> edbian: the pass is good for my standars, im afraid of exploits for the firmware, being it old (and i think that unpatched open source software is worse than outdated proprietary lol)
[19:58] <sudokill> orwhatt, disable ssh / telnet whatever on your router and dont worry about it
[19:58] <wols> oscar: use aptitude to upgrade. it will tell you why it wants to remove pidgin
[19:58] <orwhatt> wols: ill look it up thanks
[19:58] <orwhatt> sudokill: any access from remote (the only being webmin) is disabled, spi and nat firewall are on
[19:58] <DriverIssues> bah
[19:59] <DriverIssues> can someone help me install ubuntu onto my external hdd
[19:59] <edbian> orwhatt: :)
[19:59] <edbian> DriverIssues: Yes, what's the issue?
[19:59] <orwhatt> edbian: also, i havent seen yet a router + modem that supports open source firmware, and i'd like to have an all in one
[19:59] <DriverIssues> it says that no root filesystem is defined
[19:59] <ikonia> DriverIssues: whats the issue ?
[19:59] <vasundhar> oscar: Did you select delete unused applications in aptitude settings ? that might be a possibility since when you upgrade (I assume) your counts will be lost leaving pidgin unused app
[19:59] <ikonia> DriverIssues: where did you define it ?
[19:59] <DriverIssues> I'm not sure what you mean
[19:59] <DriverIssues> I'm on a livecd, currently using it
[20:00] <orwhatt> edbian: since (unless you own one) you're not supposed to know all the details about that box would you say i can sleep tight with that outdated firmware? lol (sorry if im repeatitive)
[20:00] <DriverIssues> clicked "install ubuntu 11.04" on the desktop
[20:00] <wols> orwhatt: in europe there are. fritz!box by avm. it's a phonesystem, dsl modem and router. runs linux and has free firmware available via freetz and some very select models via openwrt
[20:00] <DriverIssues> nvm, I'll use the simple installer
[20:00] <sudokill> orwhatt, id say so firmware updates normally oinly fix bugs
[20:00] <edbian> orwhatt: tomato and ddwrt are both open source firmware.   People have suggested routers that support both of those I think.
[20:00] <orwhatt> wols: ill have to check amazon for that, shops dont seem to have lol
[20:00] <ikonia> DriverIssues: you have to tell the installer where to install ubuntu (that is the root file system) where did you point it at
[20:00] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  the hdd
[20:00] <wols> edbian: but they rarely come with dsl modems then
[20:00] <edbian> orwhatt: none (to my knowledge) come with OSS pre-installed.
[20:01] <sudokill> orwhatt, common ones are linksys and buffalo for 3rd party fw
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: ok - so you defined a file system called "/" on the external hard disk ?
[20:01] <orwhatt> edbian: i didnt ask if you knew any with OSS i asked if you would sleep tight if you had such an old device (came out around 2008 and only had minor bug fixes)
[20:01] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  I'm confused, what do you mean by a file system
[20:01] <edbian> orwhatt: Outdated router firmware?  Don't worry about it.  When you get a chance, log into the router and see if you can update the firmware.  Usually there is a button that checks for you!
[20:01] <orwhatt> sudokill: sadly i picked the locked one lol pwnt
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: you need to create a partition on the disk and assign the root (/) file system to it.
[20:01] <ikonia> DriverIssues: that is what a file system is
[20:01] <edbian> DriverIssues: Mount the HDD first
[20:02] <sudokill> orwhatt, dont worry about it i use a router from 2005 just use it and stop worrying
[20:02] <orwhatt> edbian: i know for a fact that unless people riot because they want ipv6 linksys wont update that router :'(
[20:02] <DriverIssues> bah bah I gave up , ikonia and edbian, I just used the simple install wizard
[20:02] <oscar> vasundhar: let me see, thanks
[20:02] <edbian> orwhatt: My router is from 2006
[20:02] <orwhatt> sudokill: thanks for the support :D
[20:02] <edbian> DriverIssues: yay
[20:02] <orwhatt> edbian: you too
[20:02] <vasundhar> you are welcome
[20:02] <ikonia> DriverIssues: that's the only way to install, using the installer, so I don't know how you where doing it without the installer
[20:02] <orwhatt> wols: you too
[20:02] <edbian> orwhatt: :)
[20:02] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  there was an option to use the "advanced partitioning utility"
[20:03] <edbian> DriverIssues: You have to mount that external hdd
[20:03] <orwhatt> thank you all for bearing with this noob  much appreciated
[20:03] <DriverIssues> ikonia:  i had wanted to not use so much space - I only wanted 100 gigs or so
[20:03] <ikonia> DriverIssues: ah, so you used the advanced partioning tool, not advanced installer
[20:03] <erbun> morning everyone!  anyone here have any experience with dhcp3-server?  I have tried installing it and while it created a folder in my etc folder, it was empty of everything every guide should tell me should be there?  all it has is a folder named dhclient-enter-hooks.d?
[20:03] <orwhatt> edbian: firmware is not open but i have access to iptables config LOL (curl)
[20:03] <martiniano> hello, can anyone tell me how to set up evolution as the default email client from the command line?
[20:03] <ab2tract> .
[20:03] <edbian> orwhatt: cool
[20:03] <ikonia> martiniano: just do it through the gui - it's easier
[20:04] <ikonia> martiniano: there is no reason to do it on the command line
[20:04] <orwhatt> anyways thanks everyone and have a nice day
[20:04] <martiniano> I can't, don't know why
[20:04] <martiniano> the option is disabled
[20:04] <ikonia> martiniano: explain ? how are you trying to do it
[20:04] <martiniano> so when I click on the ubuntu icon I can't see the email button
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> my nmap run says 5hours remaining
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> is that normal
[20:05] <sudokill> depends
[20:05] <coldpizza72i> on...
[20:05] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: it can take a long time, it depends what you're doing
[20:05] <sudokill> a slow scan can on a network other side of the world
[20:05] <martiniano> I installed Thunderbird to try it out and it got set up as the default
[20:06] <genii-around> If you told it to scan all the IP on a Class A for instance...
[20:06] <ikonia> martiniano: ok, so how are you trying to set evolution up as the default
[20:06] <martiniano> so THEN I was able to see thunderbird in the menu
[20:06] <sudokill> coldpizza72i, on a local network then it should b less than 30 seconds
[20:06] <martiniano> through the gui
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> whats a class a
[20:06] <ikonia> martiniano: which gui
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> genii-around: *
[20:06] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: that's the time you shouldn't be using nmap
[20:06] <martiniano> preferred applications
[20:06] <elyawy> ubuntu on intel imac early 2009 no sound help
[20:06] <coldpizza72i> ikonia: huh?
[20:07] <martiniano> then on the internet tab there's web browser and mail reader
[20:07] <DriverIssues> ok, whoever was helping me about the processor frequency stuck at the lowest power state
[20:07] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: you're asking what a class A network is, if this is the case you shouldn't be using a tool such as nmap
[20:07] <martiniano> i have chromium as my default but no application selected on the mail reader option
[20:07] <genii-around> coldpizza72i: A class A IP range is something like all the numbers between <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> for instance
[20:07] <coldpizza72i> ikonia: y not
[20:07] <ikonia> martiniano: and you can't do it ?
[20:07] <martiniano> and the drop down menu us disabled
[20:07] <martiniano> nope
[20:07] <ikonia> coldpizza72i: because it requires a basic knowledge of networking to use it
[20:07] <ikonia> martiniano: how did you lauch the gui ?
[20:08] <DriverIssues> wols
[20:08] <martiniano> unity
[20:08] <coldpizza72i> genii-around: what are other clases
[20:08] <ikonia> martiniano: , sorry, I meant how are you luanching
[20:08] <martiniano> searched for preffered applications
[20:08] <DriverIssues> oh hey
[20:08] <martiniano> oh, evolution... through the messaging menu
[20:08] <DriverIssues> what the heck
[20:08] <DriverIssues> went up to 2.6 ghz... never mind
[20:08] <DriverIssues> I guess what I was doing wasn't stressful enough :P
[20:08] <sudokill> DriverIssues, maybe some power saving thing
[20:09] <ikonia> martiniano: interesting, I don't know where that menu is within unity these days, but try to find it from within the unity interface
[20:09] <martiniano> I did
[20:09] <wols> DriverIssues: what cpu is it?
[20:09] <ikonia> martiniano: I'm wondering if it wasn't launched without the correct permissions
[20:09] <martiniano> can I post a screen shot?
[20:09] <wols> DriverIssues: and how did you check if it went up?