[04:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <eilker> i install superkaramba themes, it goes to /tmp/kde , so when i reboot , will i lose those themes ?
[04:52] <jhutchins> !firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:53] <DaSkreech> hi manchicken
[04:53] <DaSkreech> !windows rocking!
[04:54] <DaSkreech> !windows rocking
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows rocking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:54] <julle> !mount iso
[04:54] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB
[04:54] <manchicken> Howdy.
[04:54] <julle> !mount
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <julle> !iso
[04:54] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Oy! You've killed me!. Chicken!!!
[04:56] <bewl> I cant seem to get movies to play for the life of me
[04:56] <bewl> ive installed the codecs
[04:56] <bewl> w32, restricted, and free
[04:57] <DaSkreech> bewl: What movie?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Riddell: http://jeremie.famille-corbier.net/blog/post:21
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: i wanna check out ICQ Xstatus
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: Changelog reports it's implemented now
[04:58] <DaSkreech> akrus: ah Right. I forgot about that
[04:58] <manuel_> Hola, soy nuevo y solo queria dar un saludo
[04:58] <DaSkreech> akrus: Whats that do? :)
[04:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: bad move :P
[04:58] <akrus> DaSkreech: it's Extra Status
[04:58] <DaSkreech> !es | manuel_
[04:58] <ubotu> manuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:58] <akrus> like sleeping/eating/love etc.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: eh?
[04:58] <manuel_> gracias
[04:59] <Riddell> DaSkreech: I know
[04:59] <akrus> atm only ICQ/QIP/Miranda support this
[04:59] <akrus> if it's really implemented then i can really say Kopete is the best messenger :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> akrus: Why is it that important? :)
[05:00] <akrus> DaSkreech: it's very useful actually :(
[05:00] <waylandbill> ok. I got a few packages that I need to keep at a specific version for a while. How can I force an apt-get upgrade to not touch them?
[05:00] <akrus> SIM/Gaim/Kopete do not support this :(
[05:00] <DaSkreech> akrus: I'm not saying it's not It's been a while since I used ICQ pure. how do you use it?
[05:00] <akrus> well
[05:01] <akrus> for example
[05:01] <akrus> i'm online
[05:01] <akrus> and I'm sitting hear, surfing through the net
[05:01] <gwidion> is the nick completion bug on kopete-irc fixed?
[05:01] <akrus> I'm setting xstatus to: 'Surfing the net'
[05:01] <akrus> and everyone sees me online with this status & message
[05:01] <DaSkreech> What if you are webcamming
[05:01] <DaSkreech> can you set it to webcamming?
[05:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:01] <akrus> there're also 'angry', 'tired' etc.
[05:01] <akrus> I don't have a webcam :P
[05:02] <akrus> well
[05:02] <waylandbill> pronning too. :-P
[05:02] <akrus> you may type in any text
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Ha ha  Fine how about In IRC?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Ah ok cool
[05:02] <waylandbill> unless that is "surfing the net" ;)
[05:02] <akrus> and there're several default icons
[05:02] <akrus> love is my favie :D
[05:02] <DaSkreech> akrus: So you want to install from source?
[05:02] <akrus> waylandbill: that was just an example :)
[05:02] <akrus> DaSkreech: already compiling :)
[05:03] <akrus> removed the .deb and compiling :3
[05:03] <akrus> according to changelog this change is submitted 2007-01-06
[05:03] <akrus> but KDE 3.5.6 was released after this date
[05:03] <akrus> so wanna try~
[05:03] <akrus> oh and i'm very missing ICQ file transfers
[05:04] <akrus> as well as the file transfer interface
[05:04] <rysiek|pl> guys, I am trying to set-up Kubuntu 6.10 (got an ISO and burnt it today)
[05:04] <akrus> rysiek|pl: and? :)
[05:04] <rysiek|pl> akrus: workin' on it ;)
[05:05] <rysiek|pl> I keep getting this error in the installer: when I am selecting the mountpoints, I change a wee bit the defaults (select a different ext3 partition for /), click "Next" and get "Select a root filesystem" error
[05:06] <dhq> can anyone help me my mouse pad of my laptop is not working properly i think its ths the driver promblem
[05:06] <waylandbill> dhq: do you have the synaptic driver in your xorg.conf?
[05:06] <DrCurl> hi
[05:07] <DrCurl> is this the right place to ask about kubuntu feisty?
[05:07] <dhq> waylandbill: but the mouse moves very slow and i cant click
[05:07] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: try #ubuntu+1
[05:07] <akrus> DrCurl: but you may try here
[05:07] <waylandbill> dhq. there is a place in kcontrol to change the settings
[05:07] <akrus> #ubuntu+1 is always so quiet :D
[05:08] <rysiek|pl> akrus: this is called "revered silence" ;)
[05:08] <dhq> waylandbill: ok and
[05:08] <akrus> :)
[05:08] <dhq> waylandbill: the touchpad is veryslow i cant move it fast at all
[05:09] <DrCurl> I would like to know if accelerated desktop will be on click (desktop effects) away under kubuntu like it will be for ubuntu in feisty?
[05:09] <akrus> o_O
[05:09] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: yes
[05:10] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: it *is* the same system, after all
[05:10] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: Not a sufficent answer for this question
[05:10] <DrCurl> yes! very nice!
[05:10] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: and the real problem with accellerated desktop are the drivers
[05:10] <waylandbill> dhq: so up the acceleration in kcontrol
[05:10] <DaSkreech> It is the DE that is the difference here :)
[05:10] <DrCurl> rysiek, I have a supported chipset
[05:11] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: in the context of beryl - well, yes, it *is* a sufficent answer :)
[05:11] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: in that case I am sure it will work
[05:11] <DrCurl> what about compiz?
[05:11] <dhq> waylandbill: where is the acceleration
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: beryl/compiz - whatever. the point is: the acceleration will be there
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hello room
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> DrCurl: so you will be able to use its goodies ;)
[05:12] <rysiek|pl> hello, Admiral_Chicago
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Wee.. the "freespire' spinoff of ubuntu is now out.. in beta testing.. scary
[05:13] <waylandbill> dhq: it's called sensitivity under touch pad. sorry
[05:13] <Dr_willis> wonder if the freespire/linspire dudes will contribute to the ubuntu/kubuntu cause.
[05:13] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: what's so scary about it?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  the company for the most part.. and the fact (not sure if its stull true) that every user had 100% root privilages from the start...
[05:13] <Dr_willis> getting ready to test it in vmware.
[05:13] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont have touchpad
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[05:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:14] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont have touchpad in kcontrol
[05:14] <Dr_willis> click-and-run store - is a neat idea.. but well.. lets say.. 'lacking'
[05:14] <brosioz> how could i play directly a file and not append it on my playlist with doubleclick with amarok?
[05:14] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: damn, why vmware? use qemu, luke! :]
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Im bettting we will start seeing more freespire users in here now.
[05:14] <waylandbill> dhq: then you need to install the synaptics program for kde.
[05:14] <dhq> waylandbill: how
[05:14] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  how about 'VirtualBox'
[05:15] <rysiek|pl> Dr_willis: dunno, never used it... Is it FLOSS? :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> rysiek|pl,  not totally sure. :) its free to use for personal use.
[05:15] <Jucato> there's a GPL version of VirtualBox
[05:15] <Dr_willis> guess it is. :) heh
[05:15] <Jucato> but the GPL version is not as full featured, I think
[05:15] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago!
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Xes is what i would use, because its free
[05:16] <Dr_willis> these multi-licensing things get me confused after a bit.
[05:16] <waylandbill> dhq: apt-get install ksynaptics
[05:16] <DaSkreech> can I edit a torrent once in Ktorrent?
[05:16] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: how easy is it to setup? :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  edit in what way?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I want to point it to a new folder
[05:17] <timster> !deKorator
[05:17] <ubotu> dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB
[05:17] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  stop the torrent, change the download dir.. (move the data over perhaps)
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: nothing advanced.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> then restart the torrent.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> stop/remove the torrent i guess is what i mean.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: So remove the torrent then restart it?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  thats how ive done it befor.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> you just want to move it all to a different dir eh?
[05:17] <Jucato> DaSkreech: File -> Import existing download
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i got a whole HD just for 'torrents' :) /media/torrents
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Don't got that on mine
[05:18] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Plugins: partfileimportplugin
[05:19] <coreymon77> wow
[05:19] <coreymon77> that had to be the easiest linux reinstall i have even done in my life
[05:19] <Dr_willis> ktorrents plugin feature is nice.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> except now i loaded a plugin and it locked up ktorrent...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> heh .
[05:20] <Jucato> :P
[05:20] <DaSkreech> So I have to find the torrent again?
[05:21] <DaSkreech> *sighs*
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the .torrent fle you mean?
[05:21] <Jucato> the .torrent file? definitely yes
[05:21] <Dr_willis> ipfilter plugin seems to hang ktorrent.. or else its taking a LONG LONG time..
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> one thing I hate about this channel, i do a lot of /clears
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> sorry
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm done
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> :)
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know how I can set Irssi to not show joins / parts.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  use the ' /ignore ' command
[05:23] <Hasrat_In_Office> i forgot to quit Konversation at home
[05:23] <Dr_willis> - /ignore PARTS #channel (or somthing like that)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> i amways get it backwards
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: thanks
[05:24] <ubuntu> umm.... someone told me about nano.. and now I think vim can go to hell
[05:24] <Dr_willis> the irssi site has some must read guides/docs. :) iu always have to go back there when ever i start using irssi again
[05:24] <Hasrat_In_Office> ktorrent works like a charm
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  yea.. sure.... your lack of experience is showing. :)
[05:25] <Hasrat_In_Office> hey ububntu what's up
[05:25] <ubuntu> yea well I did take a class on linux
[05:25] <ubuntu> the whole final was on vim
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  neither have i
[05:25] <waylandbill> ubuntu: vim is useful in a terminal where cursor keys are not functioning as expected.
[05:26] <eilker> i am looking for fantastic superkaramba themes, but  i cant find, those are normal in kde look, any other source ?
[05:26] <ubuntu> ive had keys foobar in vim
[05:26] <ubuntu> so dont give me that
[05:27] <waylandbill> h,j,k & l were foobar? hmm. I doubt that.
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis: /ignore #kubuntu parts . also, irssi docs are way hard to read imho
[05:28] <ForgeAus> hehe
[05:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> what does /ignore #kubuntu parts do?
[05:28] <ubuntu> is it just me or all the die hard Vim users... old and stuborn?
[05:29] <ForgeAus> ignors a uyser parts on channel #Kubuntu?
[05:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> you mean whoever leaves the channel would get ignored?
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: konversation is too much clicking...plus GUIs can't do screenn
[05:29] <ForgeAus> in mIRC at least theres an -r switch to unignore
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Hasrat_In_Office: so I don't see who has joined or quit
[05:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh duh
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> it shows up as a line right, i don't want to see it :)
[05:29] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I rarely click in konvi... but true about the screen thing... but I don't use it anyway :)
[05:30] <ForgeAus> Konversation probably has an /unignore or ignore -r also (or something similar)
[05:30] <Gh0st75> what are some other popular irc clients for nix? i just use konversation cause it was pre-loaded with kubuntu
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: plus I can have everything in one window if I like
[05:30] <Hasrat_In_Office> ghost x-chat
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Gh0st75: irssi
[05:30] <eilker> the texts are so small when kubuntu starts the blue texts
[05:30] <ubuntu> umm shouldnt konversation be irc compatable? if so you could use standard irc commands
[05:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: konvi is not kvirc/ksirc. everything *is* in one window :D
[05:30] <eilker> how can i make it bigger ?
[05:31] <Gh0st75> yeah, in chans with fserves that require ports opened via dcc commands, they only seem to work with mirc
[05:31] <ubuntu> eiker like you would in windows
[05:31] <Jucato> ubuntu: IRC commands are not really standard. some depend on the server, afaik
[05:31] <ubuntu> or osx
[05:31] <eean> Riddell: you should really turn off the colored scrollbars by default
[05:32] <ubuntu> then you could ask the server
[05:32] <Riddell> eean: kwwii does the artwork
[05:32] <ForgeAus> thats true jucato
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i mean, I can one window for all the channel so the message i get in #kubuntu and #ubuntu-chicago are all in one window.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> different ircd's have different setups
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> no tabs
[05:32] <waylandbill> wasn't looking for an editor flamewar. I use kate or kdevelop. was just explaining that vim has uses. if you don't agree then that's fine.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> but there is a standard BASE of commands for clients and servers
[05:32] <ubuntu> yea but all of them have one command that shows a list of all commands
[05:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: oh... um... ok... that would confuse the hell out of me lol
[05:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you're such a power user :P
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i rarely use it, but there are times I just want to be in a few channels, not like now when I have 9
[05:33] <eean> Riddell: ok. not online, I guess I'll find some official channel.
[05:33] <eean> Riddell: outside of ipw3945d not being installed, Feisty has been working fine :)
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> eean: #ubuntu-artwork maybe
[05:33] <eilker> ubuntu: what u mean ?
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i think thats the channel
[05:34] <dhq> waylandbill: i installed ksynaptics now
[05:34] <waylandbill> dhq: did it make the pad work better?
[05:34] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I'm in 12 channels :)
[05:34] <dhq> waylandbill: nope still the same
[05:34] <Riddell> eean: great
[05:34] <waylandbill> dhq: even with higher sensitivity?
[05:34] <Riddell> eean: he's in #kubuntu-devel
[05:35] <ubuntu> umm gee now I know why I cant mount my fat32 volumes... its not in the fstab
[05:35] <dhq> waylandbill: i dont get any option should i reboot
[05:35] <ubuntu> all but two line
[05:35] <ubuntu> s
[05:35] <dell190_> do anyone know a free media player that will play MP3 without any extra packages???
[05:35] <waylandbill> dhq: does it show the touch pad entry in kcontrol?
[05:35] <Jucato> dell190_: mplayer, xmms, vlc
[05:35] <dhq> waylandbill: yes
[05:35] <waylandbill> dhq: if it does, does it show that it's using the loaded synaptics library?
[05:36] <Jucato> dell190_: btw, you only need one (yes, just one) package to play MP3's using xine-based players
[05:36] <dhq> waylandbill: but it doesnt show any option
[05:36] <ubuntu> I have had previous linux boot cd's that could do this automatically
[05:36] <dell190_> every time i try do download packages it says they are broken
[05:36] <waylandbill> dhq: sounds like it isn't loaded. you may have to add the driver to xorg.conf
[05:36] <dhq> waylandbill: how
[05:37] <Jucato> dell190_: then there's a deeper problem than the codecs
[05:37] <dell190_> do you know how to fix it?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dell190_: what does the output tell you?
[05:38] <Jucato> dell190_: can you try using apt-get to install it?
[05:38] <waylandbill> dhq: give me a moment
[05:38] <Jucato> then use pastebin to tell us the errors
[05:38] <Jucato> !pastebin | dell190_
[05:38] <ubotu> dell190_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:39] <dhq> waylandbill: ok
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> AFk
[05:41] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: please turn off your public /away message. lol :P
[05:41] <ubuntu> ummm anyone know how to read a compaq diagnostics partition?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> why is it every 10 min. my wife has some idiotic thing for me to do...
[05:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:41] <ubuntu> this is realy an acer
[05:41] <aotuser> hi...
[05:41] <ubuntu> and I find this odd
[05:42] <Dr_willis> but she cant come up with them all at the same time.....  its constantly.. NOW do thie.. 20 min later... do this... 5 min later.. now this...
[05:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: because you have a wife :)
[05:42] <aotuser> how are you!!? people!!
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  shes smoking 2 packs a day.. so... who knows how much longer that will last.
[05:42] <Jucato> roflmao
[05:42] <ubuntu> besides I'd like to know what is in there
[05:43] <dell190_> in adept it just says under "requested" it says (BREAK) install
[05:43] <Dr_willis> heh.. well my 'freespire alpha experiment' has shown 2 things.. #1 - freespire sort of sucks.. and #2 the bootsplas stuff  by default REALLY sucks - since i cent even see the error messages thats causing freespire in vmware to lock up
[05:43] <Dr_willis> never seen vmware lock up befor like that.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> click on the vmware machine. and the numlock/capslocl/scrolllock keys start flashing
[05:44] <Jucato> dell190_: I said "please use apt-get"
[05:44] <waylandbill> dhq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9462/
[05:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you made me :( ...
[05:44] <dell190_> how do i use that ???
[05:44] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: aw... :(
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: did it say i was AFK or was it just me saying that
[05:45] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: you were just saying that. I think
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't want that broadcasted on thore channels
 AFk
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i wrote that in case people were looking for help
[05:45] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good. brb
[05:45] <Jucato> dell190_: sudo apt-get install <name of package>
[05:46] <firemonkeyballz> um ok... I guess Im being ignored
[05:46] <dhq> waylandbill: any luck
[05:47] <waylandbill> dhq: look up. I pastebin'd the synaptics driver section from my xorg.conf
[05:48] <dhq> can you repaste it i had a reboot so i dint recieve it
[05:50] <dell190_> how do i use that pastebin thingy???
[05:50] <waylandbill> dhq: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9462/
[05:50] <eilker> upgrade from dapper to edgy ,kUbuntu started displaying text messeages very  SMALL  during startup and shutdown. any help pls ?
[05:50] <bonbonthejon> !pastebin | dell190_
[05:50] <ubotu> dell190_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <eilker> *after upgrading from dapper to edgy ,kubuntu started displaying text messeages very  SMALL  during startup and shutdown. any help pls ?
[05:50] <dhq> waylandbill: this same thing is happening to me   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/29418
[05:51] <nosrednaekim> is it too small to read wilker?
[05:51] <firemonkeyballz> eeek kde is saying that my volume is a floppy
[05:51] <firemonkeyballz> wrong!
[05:51] <eilker> nosrednaekim: yess
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> hmmm...I don't know, edgy doesn't even have text for me
[05:52] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[05:52] <firemonkeyballz> last I checked there was a pdf
[05:52] <eilker> nosrednaekim: let me solve your problem :)
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> haha.... its not a problem...I don't mind
[05:53] <lparry> Hey guys I am having problems with sudden slowdowns with Kubuntu + using native bcm_43xx driver crashes randomly in a set time
[05:53] <eilker> nosrednaekim: /boot/grub/menu.lst  ou remove any mention of quiet from the file. You should get the messages again next time you boot.
[05:53] <eilker> nosrednaekim: /boot/grub/menu.lst   *you remove any mention of quiet from the file. You should get the messages again next time you boot.
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> oh I know how to do it....I just don't like the text
[05:53] <eilker> interesting :)
[05:54] <eilker> i want normal size texts
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> is there a font size setting?
[05:54] <dell190_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9464/
[05:54] <eilker> i couldnt see
[05:54] <eilker> nosrednaekim: i still search
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> arg!
[05:54] <waylandbill> nosrednaekim: change the resolution with the vga switch.
[05:54] <firemonkeyballz> no dice
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> me?
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> I cant mount a fat32 volume
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> why?
[05:55] <eilker> waylandbill>: may be me :) where to change ?
[05:55] <firemonkeyballz> kde pops up and sais its a floppy
[05:55] <Jucato> dell190_: can you pastebin the contents of your sources.list file in /etc/apt/ ?
[05:55] <dell190_> 1 min
[05:56] <eilker> waylandbill>: "change the resolution with the vga switch" what do you mean ? 1024x768 at themoment
[05:56] <waylandbill> eilker: sounds like you already did.
[05:56] <firemonkeyballz> and it wasnt mounted in the first
[05:57] <firemonkeyballz> so wtf
[05:57] <eilker> waylandbill>: but vga=791 at menu.lst file is it normal ?
[05:57] <waylandbill> eilker: yes. that's a reasonable setting
[05:58] <firemonkeyballz> is there some permissions set on the live cd that im not aware of ?
[05:58] <eilker> waylandbill>: so why texts are very small :D
[05:58] <ackbahr> Hi all! Does someone know globulatio2?
[05:59] <waylandbill> eilker: yes. the text would be small with that setting.
[05:59] <dell190_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9468/
[05:59] <eilker> waylandbill>: it was readable when i was at dapper, how can make it bigger ?
[06:00] <Jucato> eilker: I don't think that can be set easily. it has to do w/ the USplash (Ubuntu Bootsplash) theme
[06:01] <Jucato> dell190_: wow! you have everything except universe and multiverse disabled...
[06:01] <bomber> just installed edgy... hoping to get tv card working but no such luck
[06:01] <eilker> is it my problem ? or all people text status are so small during start up ?
[06:02] <Jucato> eilker: all of us
[06:02] <dell190_> i just installed it.....
[06:03] <Jucato> dell190_: based on the pastebin numbering, uncomment lines 2, 9, 30, 34, and 37
[06:03] <eilker> jucato: good to know :)
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> wel crap my pants you all are rude...
[06:03] <Hasrat_In_Office> huh?
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> been asking questions
[06:03] <firemonkeyballz> and no answer
[06:03] <Jucato> firemonkeyballz: if no one has answered you, it just means that no one here knows the answer
[06:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> the answer of your question is no monkeyballz
[06:04] <dell190_> how di i uncomment?
[06:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> it's 12:04 PM in NYC and i'm at work
[06:04] <firemonkeyballz> well why cant I mount a fat32 volume in live cd mode
[06:04] <Jucato> dell190_: remove the '#' at the beginning of the line
[06:04] <Jucato> dell190_: uncomment = enable (in Adept)
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> which live CD?
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> kubuntu
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> think I may have figured it out
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> hdb vs hda
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> my ubuntu liveCD can even mount NTFS partition automatically. i don't have to use the command line to mount it
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> duh
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> smaks head
[06:05] <firemonkeyballz> yea well for some odd reasion
[06:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> firemonkey open GParted and choose the drive you want to mount
[06:06] <firemonkeyballz> it wont on two of my machines
[06:06] <Jucato> dell190_: like how you enabled the universe repository. you probably used Adept. just right-click and select Enable
[06:06] <Hasrat_In_Office> is there any error message you see when trying to mount it?
[06:06] <firemonkeyballz> just saying it wasnt in my fstab
[06:06] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: Kubuntu Live CD doesn't have GParted. QtParted only
[06:07] <Jucato> !repositories | dell190_
[06:07] <ubotu> dell190_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:07] <Jucato> dell190_: you can follow that guide.
[06:07] <Hasrat_In_Office> jucato
[06:07] <Jucato> yes?
[06:07] <firemonkeyballz> now for the moment of truth
[06:08] <firemonkeyballz> wipes head
[06:08] <Hasrat_In_Office> for example i wanna download and install gyachi enhanced (which is not listed in any of the repositories). now how do i make sure it's not gonna crash my distro?
[06:08] <Hasrat_In_Office> it's recommended that users don't install any software that's not included in Ubuntu's repositories
[06:09] <Jucato> yes. so if you want to install something outside the repositories, you should at least know the risks involved
[06:09] <Jucato> that being said, most outside packages are fine
[06:09] <Hasrat_In_Office> i need gyachi enhanced to use it as a perfect replacement of Windows's yahoo messenger
[06:09] <Hasrat_In_Office> is frostwire (limewire's alternative) okay?
[06:09] <Jucato> if and only if the packages depend on the same versions installed already
[06:09] <Jucato> !frostwire | Hasrat_In_Office
[06:09] <ubotu> Hasrat_In_Office: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:10] <Jucato> there's even a howto :)
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> geez now I know I realy cant
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> so you think its's safe?
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh
[06:10] <Jucato> frostwire? yeah
[06:10] <firemonkeyballz> they didnt put /fat_files in the dev directory
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> so, official ubuntu developers made that how-to for frostwire
[06:10] <Hasrat_In_Office> thanks man :)
[06:10] <Jucato> not sure about gyachi/gyache...
[06:10] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: er no... everything in help.ubuntu.com/community is user/community made docs
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> and your not allowed
[06:11] <Jucato> Hasrat_In_Office: official docs are in help.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <firemonkeyballz> due to permissions
[06:11] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh ok
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> hell I dont even know if I am on root access on the live cd
[06:12] <firemonkeyballz> tho it seems not
[06:14] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: you are 'ubuntu' unless you sudo, then you are root
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> yea I did that
[06:14] <firemonkeyballz> and it even said no
[06:15] <CVirus> firemonkeyballz: what did you do ?
[06:15] <CVirus> exactly
[06:15] <firemonkeyballz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ mkdir /fat_files
[06:16] <waylandbill> you can "sudo mkdir /fat_files"
[06:16] <CVirus> firemonkeyballz: the user ubuntu has the authority to create files or directories in his home directory only /home/ubuntu
[06:16] <firemonkeyballz> figured
[06:17] <firemonkeyballz> so how would I go about logining in to root via live cd?
[06:17] <waylandbill> sudo -s
[06:17] <nosrednaekim> you can do " sudo passwd root"
[06:17] <nosrednaekim>  and then "su and the password"
[06:17] <waylandbill> that will give a root shell until you exit it
[06:18] <Sagacious> Um - ok. Kubuntu rebooted in command line mode. Any way to make it revert to original settings or undo what it just did?
[06:18] <firemonkeyballz> something screwed in your config file
[06:19] <Sagacious> Is it repairable?
[06:19] <waylandbill> Sagacious: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell what went wrong.
[06:19] <cotyrothery> Daskreech
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> yey im in root
[06:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Hello
[06:19] <cotyrothery> are you there
[06:19] <cotyrothery> hey
[06:19] <firemonkeyballz> no pw
[06:19] <cotyrothery> i spent yesterday 12 hours working on getting this running
[06:20] <cotyrothery> can you beleive that
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> is it working now?
[06:20] <cotyrothery> daskreech are you on here like all the time
[06:21] <DaSkreech> >_>
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> oh geez the fstab has an error
[06:21] <DaSkreech> <_<
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Umm
[06:21] <cotyrothery> 0-_0
[06:21] <DaSkreech> >_M
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> and its not my fault
[06:21] <cotyrothery> so i guess you are
[06:21] <cotyrothery> LOL
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> because its on line one
[06:21] <firemonkeyballz> dum de dum dum dumb
[06:21] <cotyrothery> You must be addicted to helping people then daskreech
[06:22] <Sagacious> waylandbill I get permission denied error
[06:22] <EvilIdler> What do I need to support the backlight on my bZerk keyboard?
[06:22] <firemonkeyballz> uhhh why would mount give an error for a blank line?
[06:23] <cotyrothery> Well i guess today is another day for me to try and get kubuntu working on my computer
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> well for all I know there could be non printable chars
[06:23] <waylandbill> Sagacious: trying to view that file? hmm. look at it as root.
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Wanna help? :)
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> I am viewing it
[06:23] <firemonkeyballz> im in root
[06:23] <nosrednaekim> cotytrothery, what is your problem?
[06:24] <cotyrothery> I install kubuntu then my computer restarts and tells me i have no operating system
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> geez some people take me as a noob... buh the soon learn I pick up fast
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> they
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> can you boot windows on the same computer?
[06:24] <firemonkeyballz> geez sleep is in definate order
[06:24] <cotyrothery> ys
[06:24] <cotyrothery> yes
[06:25] <cotyrothery> windows boots just fine
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> well drive is mounted
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> does it give you a menu of what to boot?
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[06:25] <cotyrothery> no
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> just got to see whats on it
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> before I wipe
[06:25] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[06:25] <cotyrothery> I have two disk
[06:25] <cotyrothery> one is 30 GB
[06:25] <cotyrothery> the other is 15GB
[06:25] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: His grub is messed up
[06:25] <slyfox> Can someone pelase help me fix this http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7663/firefox1jp5.jpg
[06:26] <Sagacious> waylandbill - Same error as root too
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: thats what I figure, maybe a reinstall?
[06:26] <cotyrothery> So i need to reinstall
[06:26] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> have you tried reinstalling yet?
[06:27] <cotyrothery> no
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. do that
[06:27] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:27] <cotyrothery> Well then i need to boot into live cd
[06:27] <cotyrothery> i know
[06:27] <cotyrothery> im not respecting this channel
[06:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> slyfox associate your desired program with the protocol/file you're trying to open
[06:27] <cotyrothery> by being on windows
[06:27] <cotyrothery> im sorry
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> haha thats fine
[06:27] <cotyrothery> ok shutting down
[06:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[06:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery right now i'm on windows XP
[06:28] <frojnd> where can I change the language of open office?
[06:28] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:28] <Sagacious> I'm on Windows Vista
[06:28] <cotyrothery> im about to be disconnected
[06:28] <Sagacious> Trying to fix Kubuntu which has randomly messed up
[06:28] <cotyrothery> computer is shuting down
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Sagacious. Welcome to sanity :)
[06:29] <cotyrothery> getting in my last words
[06:29] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery but....you see my other nick Hasrat_USA? that's on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft with a fully functional and ultra-fast Beryl up and kicking ass :)
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: A live CD normally works best for that
[06:29] <Sagacious> Can it restore drivers?
[06:29] <firemonkeyballz> yes!! finally know what acer has put on that 4gb partition
[06:30] <ciberparque__> where can i change the language of open office?
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah... recovery
[06:30] <Sagacious> Is it any particular place?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Live CDs can do near anything :)
[06:30] <firemonkeyballz> and model number information
[06:30] <firemonkeyballz> among other things
[06:30] <DaSkreech> ciberparque_: Options ?
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> so if I wanted to.... I could change the model number information just to fook with microsoft
[06:31] <firemonkeyballz> since they intend to sell out their consumers
[06:32] <Sagacious> I have the Edgy Eft live CD, what's the method to recover lol
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> u know if acer wanted this to be secret
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> they shouldnt have used fat32
[06:32] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: What's the problem?
[06:33] <Sagacious> System keeps booting in command line mode
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hi BluesKaj
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: You broke X?
[06:33] <Sagacious> Quite possibly?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Log on to here in command line mode
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !X11
[06:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, does this video player load in your browser ...FF won't load this site , altho i'v turned scripts back on etc , also have the newest flash player plugin
[06:34] <firemonkeyballz> its the graphical API
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> and whats known as the thing that runs x is the gui
[06:35] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, http://www.fastcompany.com/video/player.html
[06:35] <firemonkeyballz> aka kde or gnome
[06:36] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: fairly inaccurate but conveys the thought
[06:36] <firemonkeyballz> well isnt x windows a application interface?
[06:37] <firemonkeyballz> just seems that way
[06:37] <EvilIdler> X is a display server with a lowlevel API. On top of that, you write stuff that makes it easy to make GUIs, like Gnome (Gtk+), KDE (Qt) and so on
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> ok so im a quarter right
[06:38] <EvilIdler> Right enough for most purposes :)
[06:38] <firemonkeyballz> just havent had the right teachers
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> if you think about it I spent last semester learning vim when I could have been learning linux
[06:39] <firemonkeyballz> completely fustrating
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and now im stuck in a C++ class with a teacher whom claims to be only learning t
[06:40] <cotyrothery> is it normall to get excited everytime I start kubuntu
[06:40] <EvilIdler> OK, I figured out setting backlights. Is there a program that does the opposite of xset to read the status of a LED?
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> and he is the director of the department
[06:40] <firemonkeyballz> apparently
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> cotyrothery: yeppers
[06:40] <cotyrothery> LOL
[06:40] <cotyrothery> good
[06:41] <cotyrothery> so should start the install
[06:41] <firemonkeyballz> so I've had to learn every bit and byte on my own accord
[06:41] <cotyrothery> Should i start the install\
[06:41] <firemonkeyballz> least for the missing pices
[06:41] <Sagacious> sudo restart was ineffective DaSkreech
[06:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Go to it
[06:42] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:42] <cotyrothery> the install?
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> yes
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: What did it do?
[06:42] <cotyrothery> ok it is starting
[06:43] <Sagacious> Kinda did something, made the splash appear, then I got a black screen with flashing type cursor
[06:43] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Well if you'd like a better understanding We can walk you through it
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: what did you type?
[06:43] <Sagacious> On the black screen?
[06:43] <Sagacious> Nothing...
[06:43] <EvilIdler> Where do the X programmers hang out? The hardcore hippies, that is, not the wimpy toolkit users :)
[06:44] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:44] <cotyrothery> lol
[06:45] <BluesKaj> ok , who has a a browser that'll open this player ?  http://www.fastcompany.com/video/player.html
[06:45] <cotyrothery> Would i be considered wimpy sense i am just now learing c++
[06:45] <EvilIdler> Wimpy is choosing the easy way ;
[06:45] <cotyrothery> ok and what is the easy way
[06:46] <Sagacious> DaSkreech I kinda restarted the system - nothing changed.
[06:46] <dell190> i camt remember that dude's name that was helpin me.... but if your still here  THANKX ALOT !!!!
[06:46] <frojnd> again: how can I set my open office into my home languge?
[06:46] <Jucato> dell190: got libxine-extracodecs installed?
[06:46] <cotyrothery> because i have not found an easy way with c++
[06:46] <EvilIdler> Easy is relative, of course :)
[06:46] <cotyrothery> alright
[06:46] <cotyrothery> do you programe
[06:46] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech im just happy that google pops up with more walkthroughs
[06:47] <dell190> they are downloading now :D
[06:47] <slyfox> Hasrat_In_Office:  "associate your desired program with the protocol/file you're trying to open"  you mena via firefox file type association? When I go there I cannot add a new one, only delete old
[06:47] <Sagacious> I started to learn C++ recently. My first real language.
[06:47] <EvilIdler> Yeah
[06:47] <cotyrothery> cool
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: so You are on the command line now?
[06:47] <Sagacious> DaSkreech Yes
[06:47] <cotyrothery> well i am planning on learing a buntch of langauges
[06:47] <firemonkeyballz> since 2000 it was a sob just to read some of the manuals
[06:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: still loading
[06:47] <cotyrothery> I want them all
[06:47] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: nano and gcc scare my classmates with Visual Studio
[06:48] <cotyrothery> ??
[06:48] <BluesKaj> cotyrothery, if your worried about not knowing code to run kubuntu , don't worry about it. I know nothing of code lingo and kubuntu works just fine for me , most of the time :)
[06:48] <EvilIdler> Learn the shell well, perhaps pick up Python or Ruby or some such, and C++ is always useful
[06:48] <Sagacious> Visual C++ Is fun. Til the compiler asplodes.
[06:48] <firemonkeyballz> uhh so you can only mount one fat32 drive at a time?
[06:48] <Jucato> !offtopic
[06:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:48] <DaSkreech> frojnd: Tools -> Options -> Language
[06:48] <cotyrothery> I use dev c++
[06:48] <Jucato> before I go to sleep...
[06:48] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: :)
[06:48] <tro> i compiled/installed my own kernel and now i get no boot-up information. the screen is just blank until X starts. I don't have splash or quiet in grub. any ideas?
[06:48] <cotyrothery> kubuntu comes with a c++ programde
[06:48] <BluesKaj> yeah DaSkreech , it loads forever . Itdoesn't work in Konq or Opers either , only in FF in windows and IE
[06:48] <tro> alt+f1 doesn't work
[06:48] <BluesKaj> Opera
[06:49] <firemonkeyballz> how would I go about mounting multiple fat32 volumes?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: can you grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:49] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <cotyrothery> ok
[06:49] <fdoving> !fat | firemonkeyballz
[06:49] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:49] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Nope as many as you have inodes
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Night Jucato
[06:49] <Jucato> night!
[06:50] <dell190> jucato:  is that the only package i need to play MP3 with amarok?
[06:50] <tro> is there a kernel config option that enables start-up messages on tty0 or whatever?
[06:50] <Jucato> dell190: yes
[06:50] <bonbonthejon> nicght Jucato
[06:50] <Sagacious> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[06:50] <dell190> NIGHT JUCATO !!!!!
[06:50] <Sagacious> (EE) No devices detected
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> thanx ubot
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> :D
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: sounds like you broke X :)
[06:51] <firemonkeyballz> saves me everytime
[06:51] <Sagacious> Awesome fun
[06:51] <xst> Does anyone know a way to view google calendars on the KDE desktop? Either through superkaramba or some other application?
 frojnd: Tools -> Options -> Language I done that but I can only change local language and than I restarted and nothing happed..
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[06:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:51] <fdoving> tro, yeah, the 'splash' argument.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: try ^^^ that URL
[06:51] <Sagacious> Ok.
[06:52] <tro> fdoving: you mean in grub? i thought that was supposed to load the usplash theme, which i don't want
[06:52] <cotyrothery> it takes forever for the install to load
[06:52] <tro> i just need a basic terminal with all the boot messages
[06:53] <fdoving> tro, yeah in grub. it's for the usplash theme, so.. that won't help you. do you use the 'silent' argument in grub?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> tro: take out splash from your grub ilne
[06:53] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I think it's quiet
[06:53] <fdoving> DaSkreech: you're right.
[06:53] <fdoving> tro, i mean 'quiet' not silent.
[06:53] <tro> DaSkreech, fdoving: i took out both
[06:53] <tro> quiet and splash are both out
[06:53] <fdoving> tro,then it should spew out loads of messages.
[06:54] <tro> it used to work with the ubuntu kernel, so that's why i'm wondering if it's a kernel config thing
[06:54] <tro> 'cause all the info is still in /var/log/kern.log
[06:54] <fdoving> i haven't compiled a kernel in years.. don't know what the configs look like these days.
[06:54] <tro> so it's saved, but not printed to the terminal
[06:55] <DaSkreech> tro:Ever considered you are on the wrong terminal?
[06:56] <tro> DaSkreech: i went through all of them
[06:56] <cotyrothery> it is taking forever
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I think that they turned up on F8 for me
[06:56] <cotyrothery> getting the install to load
[06:56] <firemonkeyballz> k I guess its safe
[06:56] <firemonkeyballz> nothing left to do
[06:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How far has it reached?
[06:56] <tro> DaSkreech: tried F8 - another black screen
[06:58] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: try using the alternative install cd, I have had problems with the live cd
[06:59] <Flosoft> hey
[06:59] <bonbonthejon> hi
[06:59] <Flosoft> I am running feisty, and I have some problems with KMail / Kontact
[07:00] <Flosoft> It doesn't show my IMAP4 folder contents
[07:00] <Flosoft> it simply stalls at the page: Retrieving Folder Contents
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Flosoft: #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <Flosoft> thx
[07:01] <cotyrothery> It has not loaded the install box
[07:01] <firemonkeyballz> ummm how do you exit the second comand line aka >
[07:01] <cotyrothery> my computer is starting to freeze up on me
[07:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Space -> I -> Press <enter>
[07:01] <bonbonthejon> cotyrothery: download the alt. install cd, and try that, it should work
[07:02] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ctrl=c normally works
[07:02] <cotyrothery> it just loaded
[07:02] <firemonkeyballz> was doing cntrl z
[07:02] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ahh not good :)
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> whao
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> crashed konker
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> media viewer
[07:04] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[07:05] <firemonkeyballz> oopsie
[07:05] <Sagacious> Anyone know the shortcut to go back a command window when in command mode?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: huh?
[07:06] <Sagacious> Alt + F3 either made a new command window or cleared the previous one lol
[07:07] <manuel_> hola, una pregunta de novato, que repositorio son necesarios tener activados para tener los programas normales?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Oh F[1-9] +Alt
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !es | manuel_
[07:08] <bonbonthejon> !es | manuel_
[07:08] <ubotu> manuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <manuel_> y donde estoy?
[07:10] <Defdef> Hello, I am installing Kubuntu and am at the livecd installation, and livecd will not allow me to use *any* mice (i have tried 4, usb and ps2) and though I can navigate around with arrows and tab, it will not allow me to use enter to progress. any suggestions?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Space bar?
[07:11] <Defdef> LOL, wow, your right, thank you.
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: your mouse should work
[07:11] <Defdef> i swore i had tried that
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: if its not qworking in a livecd
[07:11] <Defdef> coretmon77: I know it should, it doesnt, none of my mice will work at all.
[07:11] <coreymon77> Defdef: it may not work in the real install
[07:12] <coreymon77> Defdef: what mice?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> USB
[07:12] <Defdef> i have tried two seperate usb microsoft opticals, a dell usb optical, a logitech usb optical
[07:12] <Defdef> then tried each of them with ps2 adapters
[07:12] <coreymon77> Defdef: now that is rediculous
[07:12] <slyfox> WHere is Calendar located ? the aplciaiton launcher ?
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: i have a logitech usb optical
[07:13] <Defdef> ya ive been plugging away at this all night last night
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: there is something wrong
[07:13] <Sagacious> Horrah
[07:13] <coreymon77> Defdef: something is wrong with hardware detection
[07:13] <Defdef> ya i would agree!
[07:14] <coreymon77> Defdef: have you tried having the logitech mouse plugged in when you first boot?
[07:14] <Sagacious> DaSkreech X auto-reconfig worked a charm
[07:14] <DaSkreech> slyfox: click the time in kicker
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: Booya!
[07:14] <Defdef> coreymon77: yes, i have tried that with all the mice
[07:14] <Sagacious> Ok now I'm starting to like Linux more
[07:14] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Fairly certain he didn't boot up without a mouse :)
[07:14] <cotyrothery> sorry my computer just is lagging
[07:14] <cotyrothery> like crazy
[07:15] <Defdef> coreymon77: i should mention that last night for almost one whole hour the mouse DID in fact work. then just stopped working. i have since then tried the mouse swap dance
[07:15] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay then, did you download the cd or is it one of the shipped ones
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> oops
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> umm never do umount -a
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[07:15] <Defdef> coreymon77: downloaded. i have checked the cd, as well as tried using ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[07:15] <cotyrothery> so if i disappear it is because my computer froze
[07:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: that's ok I'm here all the time!!!! :-D
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> I unmonted the console
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[07:15] <firemonkeyballz> geez
[07:15] <coreymon77> Defdef: oaky then, edgy or dapper live?
[07:16] <Defdef> coreymon77: edgy
[07:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You need more ram :)
[07:16] <coreymon77> Defdef: odd, have you installed yet?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[07:16] <coreymon77> Defdef: i mean real install
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Should help speed you up
[07:16] <Sagacious> My 1GB is really wasted on Kubuntu lol
[07:17] <Defdef> coreymon77: i am in the process of installing right now, previous installations have frozen at random points (i am blaming a bad dvd drive which i have now removed)
[07:17] <Defdef> coreymon77: going through it with keyboard right now
[07:17] <cotyrothery> what
[07:17] <slyfox> DaSkreech: and then what?
[07:17] <cotyrothery> ya i need way more ram
[07:17] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay then, maybe its just the cd
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: oh, heres an idea
[07:18] <Defdef> coreymon77: thats sure what i am hoping. i am *brand new* to linux, and to be honest after a full 24 hours of trying to get it installed im not terribly impressed, but the alure of something new and exciting has kept me interested
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: when you plug in the logitech optical one
[07:18] <DaSkreech> slyfox: Sorry?
[07:18] <eilker> how to create 3d wallpaper ? after it will be skydome
[07:18] <eilker> so sorry wrong channel :)
[07:18] <coreymon77> Defdef: does it light up on the bottom, like it usually does
[07:19] <slyfox> DaSkreech: you said "click the time in kicker"  and then what ?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> slyfox: the calendar doesn't come up?
[07:19] <Defdef> coreymon77: as a matter of fact, only the dell, and logitech mice light up. the two different microsoft mice do not. however, neither of the mice that light up respond to anyhting.
[07:19] <firemonkeyballz> umm you know that diagnostic part... I could hide stuff in it
[07:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: the alternate install may be better if you have such little RAM
[07:19] <coreymon77> Defdef: but the logitech mouse does light up, the red opical light goes on correct?
[07:19] <firemonkeyballz> and windows wouldnt see it
[07:20] <Defdef>  coreymon77: yes
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: okay, that is very good
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: and btw, having these little mishaps and problems is part of what makes linux so fun
[07:20] <Defdef>  coreymon77: (and yes i have tried silly things like a mouse pad)
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: dont get discouraged, this happens many times to everyone
[07:20] <coreymon77> Defdef: including me
[07:21] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: You can't find your mouse?
[07:21] <firemonkeyballz> hell im a half noob to linux
[07:21] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: not that, but i have had my own problems
[07:21] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: many of them
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: It'll piss you off at some point in time
[07:21] <Defdef>  coreymon77: haha, well, i work in IT support, so 8 hours of this every day just to come home is daunting, but i am dealing ok. i am still very interested in getting it working
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Sagacious: It is Kool though
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Just had to move a washer/dryer combo for the sister inlaw.. and of course.. she didnet bother to make sure it fit in the spot it was suppsoed to go in.. *women!*   Heh heh.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Computers are good at making people mad.
[07:22] <coreymon77> Defdef: linux's advantages way overpower its occasional problems
[07:22] <firemonkeyballz> umm do I need to download ATI drivers before I install?
[07:22] <Sagacious> Well, I love Firefox 's ability to restore when it crashes...
[07:22] <archangel_> shalom folks
[07:22] <coreymon77> Defdef: if the logitech mouse lights up, that is a very good sign
[07:22] <stephan> hey
[07:22] <Sagacious> So my desktop and OS doing the same is relatively teh same.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  read the !ati factoid
[07:22] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  in short.. No.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <Defdef>  coreymon77:i am certainly hoping for that, i am really interested in using it. and yes, i agree about the lighting up, hoping it will work once i get the OS installed
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: have the logitech mouse plugged in when you boot up after the install
[07:23] <stephan> i have kubuntu 6.10
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: that should work
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !ati | firemonkeyballz
[07:23] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: please see above
[07:23] <Defdef>  coreymon77: ok
[07:23] <stephan> and i want to add the w32codec
[07:23] <archangel_> question   ...    my dvds play up to teblue rating screen. then stops
[07:23] <Sagacious> The sad thing about Kubuntu Hibernation, is it would be quicker to shutdown and restart >.<
[07:23] <coreymon77> Defdef: and also, you said you work in IT support, right? so this should be normal for you
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[07:23] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !w2codecs | stephan
[07:23] <archangel_> it wont go to the menue
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w2codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Dr_willis> I always get them from the severas repos
[07:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Doesn't mean you want to come home to it
[07:24] <Defdef> haha, it is, thats part of the problem. 8-10 hours a day is PLENTY!
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !part
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about part - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !partitioning
[07:24] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:24] <stephan> thx Dr_willis en DaSkreech
[07:24] <coreymon77> Defdef: just done give up
[07:24] <Defdef> coreymon77: but im plugging away at it
[07:24] <firemonkeyballz> !partitioning for ubuntu
[07:24] <Defdef> coreymon77: i am stubborn in my desire for new toys
[07:25] <coreymon77> Defdef: also, its worth it
[07:25] <coreymon77> Defdef: to get away form the evil that is windoze, id do anything
[07:26] <archangel_> why is that?
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> Micrloof sais I spy a file
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: anyways, i have to go back to class now
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: good luck
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> that I dont like
[07:26] <stephan> is Dennis "Seveas" Kaarsemaker dutch?
[07:26] <Defdef> coreymon77: haha, well one of my biggest concerns (and reasons for thinking about going back to windows) is i am a large gamer
[07:26] <firemonkeyballz> or I spy a user I dont like
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: dont worry
[07:26] <slyfox> How do I make it so that when I opne a .ics calendar file it asks me to add it to my calendar? Because at the moment the only thing that happens is Korganizer opens and shows me my to do list. ?
[07:26] <Defdef> coreymon77:  ok see ya corey, thanks for the help
[07:26] <coreymon77> Defdef: wine, crossover, vmware and cedega are your friends for that
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: and you can always dual boot
[07:27] <Defdef> coreymon77:  true
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: well cya
[07:27] <coreymon77> Defdef: good luck
[07:27] <BluesKaj> Defdef, buy a gaming console ! :)
[07:27] <Defdef> coreymon77:  bye!
[07:27] <Defdef> blueskaj: i have a wii and love it
[07:27] <BluesKaj> pcs are for computer users
[07:27] <Defdef> blueskaj: and just beefed up my main gaming pc, this linux box is just for fun
[07:27] <dell190> FINALLY EVERYTHING IS WORKING !!!!
[07:28] <Defdef> blueskaj:command and conquer 3 baby!
[07:28] <BluesKaj> games...bah humbug ! :)
[07:28] <Defdef> blueskaj: oh man! your missin out. pc games > everything
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Games = for the weak.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> irc = better then games.
[07:28] <firemonkeyballz> defdef Im moving to linux because of what mickeysoft decided to do
[07:29] <Sagacious> !X11
[07:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:29] <hatta> games rule
[07:29] <BluesKaj> I do outdoor sports
[07:29] <hatta> especially nethack
[07:29] <firemonkeyballz> I dont think they are going to limit it to vista
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I bought a pc game the other day.. it wouldent even run.. due to the cd-copy protection.
[07:29] <firemonkeyballz> particularlly becasue there have been strange updates that only add files
[07:29] <Defdef> dr_willis: haha ya, you can thank the RIAA for that
[07:29] <BluesKaj> well ,i used to til i got old and my knee started acting up, but i still go outside in the fresh air etc
[07:30] <stephan> E: could not find w32codecs
[07:30] <Defdef> dr_willis: just makes the art of piracy a little trickier for people like me
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> Dr_willis
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> what company made it?
[07:30] <firemonkeyballz> or rather what kind of copy protection?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !codecs | stephan
[07:31] <ubotu> stephan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <Hasrat_In_Office> okay i'm confused and want to ask a question. If I am able to run Beryl, which is a composite manager, then is it running on XGL? my video card is nvidia geforce 7300 LE 256 MB ultrabuffer
[07:31] <firemonkeyballz> because it may be easy to remove
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Possibly you could have it on AIGLX
[07:32] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  no idea.. i went to gamecopyworld.com and found a no cd crack. :)
[07:32] <stephan> thx
[07:32] <firemonkeyballz> what game?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  and now the game loads instantly - instead of trying lame cd protection.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Psyconauts
[07:32] <Dr_willis> or somthing like that. was $6 in the bargin bin.
[07:32] <firemonkeyballz> oh geez Ive seen that on torrent
[07:32] <Hasrat_In_Office> DaSkreech okay but as far as i can remember, i never had to seperately install either AIGLX or XGL or anything to run Beryl.
[07:32] <eilker> !blender
[07:32] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[07:32] <Defdef> lol
[07:33] <mayer_> any1 know of a solution to get lifechat zx-6000 headset work under linux?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Probably AIGLX then
[07:33] <Defdef> man, everyone do yourselves a favor....this month, the 26th, go buy command and conquer 3. so good.
[07:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> how could XGL or AGLX got into the system without letting me know?
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> im not into war strats
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> sorry
[07:33] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  what cant you find on torrents. :)  heh
[07:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> how was i able to run Beryl withoout installing XGL/AGLX first?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: It's an extenstion to X. it's pertty easy
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> tru
[07:33] <firemonkeyballz> just saying someone ripped it
[07:33] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  fact is i legally bought the game.. and had to 'illeagly' do somthing so i could play it. :)
[07:33] <Defdef> dr_willis: where do you get your torrens? i use piratebay
[07:34] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm gonna type out the commands i used to install beryl hold on
[07:34] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  of course the game wont run under wine/cedega either.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Defdef,  'torrentpond' :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !coc | Defdef
[07:34] <ubotu> Defdef: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !coc | Dr_willis
[07:34] <ubotu> Dr_willis: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I did legally buy the game. :)
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> so you legally own it
[07:35] <Dr_willis> and im sharing several linux iso torrents.. legally.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Then you don't need to mention torrents caleld Piratebay :)
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> you can legally make backups
[07:35] <Dr_willis> i dident mention it. :)
[07:35] <Defdef> dr_willis: did i break a rule?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Not on Torrents you can't :)
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Defdef,  aparently - heh heh..
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Piracy is not discussed here
[07:35] <DaSkreech> We don't endorse it or support it
[07:35] <DaSkreech> We will opensource it :)
[07:35] <Defdef> dr_willis:i thought if you legally owned a copy of the game, you can have as many copies as you like?
[07:35] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech im not talking about piracy
[07:36] <Dr_willis> I have noticed that many disrto makers rely on torrents to disrtibute their isos.. and edgad.. that sucks when they ONLY  have them on torrents.
[07:36] <Hasrat_In_Office> sudo apt-get install beryl emerald emerald-themes
[07:36] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I know it's just cerating an invinting area for it. Just want everyone to be aware of the COC
[07:36] <firemonkeyballz> defdef techically depends on the licence agreement
[07:36] <Hasrat_In_Office> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[07:36] <provolik> Is there someone which uses vice (c64 emulator) for ubuntu?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: bandwith is expensive
[07:36] <Dr_willis> provolik,  all the time.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Defdef: Some games don't allow you to make any copies. Though most laws will allow you the leeway of one
[07:37] <Dr_willis> provolik,  you proberly will have better luck using the source code to compile the latest. and you do need to get the 'rom' packages for it to work. if using the apt packages
[07:37] <provolik> Uhm
[07:37] <firemonkeyballz> provolik only used windows vice
[07:37] <provolik> It's working
[07:37] <Dr_willis> The fact the games say 'you cant make a backup copy' is  in violation of some other laws... and this gets int o a VERY interesting legal argument..   of course..
[07:37] <provolik> but I cannot configure as I want
[07:37] <provolik> I need some advice
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: true and IANAL
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  ok..
[07:38] <provolik> for example: I want to see a full screen view
[07:38] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  yep.. we were having a large discussion of this at work the other day. :) amazing the things the "RIAA" and MPAA come up with..
[07:38] <provolik> is it possible?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  not sure.. may be a feature in the newer versions.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> provolik,  theres like 2 menus one on right click, one on left click
[07:38] <provolik> yes I know
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I do know that EULA's break the law but you agreeing to the breach of law then arguing that you should at least keep the spoils garnered by that breach is tenuous at best
[07:39] <Dr_willis> provolik,  and the newer versions have some gtk patch's for a slightly better interface.
[07:39] <Hasrat_In_Office> DaSkreech so do you think when i typed sudo apt-get install beryl etc etc the XGL or AGXL thingy was automatically installed?
[07:39] <provolik> ok
[07:39] <provolik> maybe I think I will download the newee version
[07:39] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech, so its ok if i break the law if you sign a waver lettting me say..err.. murder you.. :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Good guess :)
[07:39] <firemonkeyballz> umm do you agree when  you bypass the continue button?
[07:39] <BluesKaj> RIAA can see the end of it's influence and validity ...it's drowning but doesn't feel the water :)
[07:39] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  heh heh-- but WE dont want to get this argument going...
[07:39] <dell190> anyone know where i can get a program that will rip audio CD's and make them MP3???
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Yeah but you then can't get anythign I left you in my will
[07:40] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  i just want your dog!
[07:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: haha that just goes to show you don't know my dog :)
[07:40] <provolik> I have already 1.20
[07:40] <Dr_willis> I got a Pomerianian thats a regular beast!
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Mine has put three people in hospital
[07:40] <alberto> hi
[07:41] <DaSkreech>  one for twoo weeks
[07:41] <alberto> where in konqueror is autostart?? I cant find it
[07:41] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[07:41] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:41] <cotyrothery> sorry about that my computer froze
[07:41] <cotyrothery> are you still there
[07:41] <firemonkeyballz> Ive noticed most eulas are centric on that checkbox that sais I read this and agree... what if you bypass it? say by enabling a button
[07:41] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yup
[07:41] <Hasrat_In_Office> he can also put you in hospital too DaSkreech. so be aware. just because you treat your dog like your slave and made him/her obey you doesn't necessarily mean someday he/she won't change his/her mind and go against your rules and tyranny
[07:42] <cotyrothery> i have like 128 mb of ram
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: honestly. turn off loggin in Konversation
[07:42] <DaSkreech> It'll flood you
[07:42] <cotyrothery> what
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: He loves me :)
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Settings _> configure - > Logging _> Turn it off
[07:42] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:43] <cotyrothery> what will it do
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Turn off loggin
[07:43] <firemonkeyballz> you wont recieve teh login and log off messages
[07:43] <cotyrothery> were are settings
[07:43] <DaSkreech> it is dumping into your RAM and making it run slower
[07:43] <cotyrothery> oh
[07:43] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: at the top of Konversation
[07:43] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:44] <firemonkeyballz> yey finally found adept
[07:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> duh! it's true that it's bad that konversation has got logging enabled by default
[07:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> i thought it was dumping the IRC texts into a .txt file, not the RAM
[07:45] <firemonkeyballz> does it matter if your running from ram?
[07:45] <cotyrothery> i cant find it
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: He's on a Live Cd
[07:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh shiiiate :P
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: at ext file IS RAM
[07:45] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Do you see the settings menu at the top of Konversation?
[07:45] <cotyrothery> yes
[07:46] <cotyrothery> there are four diffrent configures
[07:46] <cotyrothery> in settings
[07:46] <DaSkreech> settings ->Configure Konversation _> logging
[07:46] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:46] <cotyrothery> ok i did it
[07:46] <DaSkreech> disable it
[07:46] <firemonkeyballz> anyone use the OCR program?
[07:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> optical character recognition?
[07:47] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: That should delay your demise
[07:47] <Soufle> hi
[07:47] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:47] <firemonkeyballz> cuz hp never did give us a decent copy
[07:47] <cotyrothery> well i have only 128 mb of ram LOL
[07:47] <cotyrothery> crapy computer
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[07:47] <cotyrothery> in konsole?
[07:47] <Hasrat_In_Office> no i don't. but once upon a time i needed to convert some texts from a book into electronic files and i think i paid someone to do that and he in fact used OCR
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: get some more if you can :)
[07:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: No
[07:47] <cotyrothery> I am going to buy a new computer
[07:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok listen to me before you act :)
[07:48] <cotyrothery> i have 20 dollors saved up
[07:48] <cotyrothery> ok
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> well my
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> Idea
[07:48] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: press alt+ctrl + f1 and it will bring you to a terminal
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> is to get some decent voice fonts
[07:48] <cotyrothery> alright
[07:48] <DaSkreech>  press alt+ctrl+F7 tp get back here
[07:48] <alberto> why  GO - AUTOSTART is not in konqueror ?
[07:48] <firemonkeyballz> and convert my books into mp3s
[07:48] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm gonna buy that famous hand-cranked 100 dollar laptop with linux built into it :)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> alberto: They took out the Go menu
[07:48] <mayer_> since there seems to be no solution to get lifechat zx-6000 work in linux, any1 got a good tip on a great headset with mic?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> mayer_,  you are refering to a USB mic/headset?
[07:49] <mayer_> Dr_willis: yes
[07:49] <archangel_> I info on two things playing DVDs again and fixing the way my printer prints (print twards the bottom left corner)
[07:49] <archangel_> (need info, I mean)
[07:49] <alberto> DaSkreech: Why? :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  dvds used to work and now they dont?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> alberto: Good question. I guess it made life simpler
[07:50] <archangel_> yeah, they won go past the rating screen
[07:50] <alberto> sure?
[07:50] <alberto> I needed to go to autostart and put /home/name/.kde/autostart
[07:50] <alberto> with GO is easier...
[07:50] <alberto> :)
[07:50] <archangel_> weird
[07:51] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  what you playign them with?
[07:51] <archangel_> fantastic 4
[07:51] <Dr_willis> not what DISK.. what program. :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> try vlc, xine, mplayer, ect..
[07:51] <archangel_> lol, kaffine and totem
[07:52] <archangel_> totem needs plug ins, so that was easy
[07:52] <dell190> i need a CD Ripper that will convert into MP3 files... any ideas????
[07:53] <archangel_> but kaffine has played them before (not this particular disk though) and no wont
[07:53] <rolando> any1 here has tried feisty fawn?
[07:53] <rolando> dell190: k3b
[07:55] <dell190> i thought that was for burning
[07:57] <alberto> If I install knetworkmanager you recommend me to took out lines from /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:57] <livingdaylight> is it <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:57] <archangel_> dell190: kaudio Creator
[07:57] <livingdaylight> ?
[07:58] <dell190> archangel: i tried that and i kept gettin errors
[07:58] <archangel_> hmmm
[07:58] <archangel_> did you try ripping as ogg files and then convert to mp3?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> archangel_: Bad!!
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I like the 'grip' for my ripping needs..
[07:59] <dell190> i just tried ripping as MP3...
[07:59] <archangel_> DaSkreech: really?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> convert from Losyy to worse quality lossy?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> lossy
[07:59] <Dr_willis> as a side note - i saw an artical the toehr day where the 'riaa - sort of said.. "We are not sure that converting your cd's to mp3's actually fall under 'fair use' "   (but i lost the url ) :(
[08:00] <archangel_> yeah, good point I guess
[08:00] <dell190> where do i get the grip program???
[08:00] <archangel_> but when your ripping Barry manalow, does it really matter?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: When the Internation trade commision says that I'll care
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !grip
[08:01] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[08:01] <bmgs> how can i change task bar colors (active, over ..)
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> umm what is the best configuration for a linux partition?
[08:01] <bmgs> kde
[08:01] <Dr_willis> firemonkeyballz,  depends on youyr needs.
[08:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byee
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> umm 1 security
[08:01] <firemonkeyballz> 2 ease of use
[08:02] <archangel_> bye
[08:02] <hagabaka> everyone needs those
[08:02] <firemonkeyballz> and im installing it to the second half of my drive
[08:02] <archangel_> can anyone give me some idea on my dvd play DISability?
[08:02] <jose__> holaaa
[08:03] <jose__> desde cadiz con quien hablo?
[08:03] <firemonkeyballz> actually what I realy need dr_willis is how big should my swap be?
[08:03] <firemonkeyballz> if Im on a 35.07 gig partition
[08:04] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: usually twice the size of your RAM.
[08:04] <firemonkeyballz> 2 gigs?
[08:04] <firemonkeyballz> crap
[08:04] <fdoving> you can do with less. 1G is enought i guess.
[08:04] <jose__> hola algun
[08:04] <unholyskorn> sup people
[08:04] <jose__> alguna mujer espaola?
[08:04] <fdoving> !es | jose__
[08:05] <ubotu> jose__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:05] <Hasrat_In_Office> sup unholy aka ubuntu
[08:05] <unholyskorn> hi hasrat! :)
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> espanol?
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> what da
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> and this bot sais its not too smart
[08:05] <archangel_> whats the command to see how big your swap is?
[08:05] <fdoving> archangel_: free.
[08:05] <firemonkeyballz> archangel parted could do it
[08:06] <archangel_> ahhh yeah
[08:06] <archangel_> I think I over did it
[08:06] <firemonkeyballz> so 1 gig swap is safe for a 1gig of ram
[08:06] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: yeah.
[08:06] <archangel_> I have 1 gig of ram and a 3 gig swap
[08:07] <cotyrothery> ok that did not go so well
[08:07] <firemonkeyballz> this wont change anything if I upgrade my ram?
[08:07] <cotyrothery> what happened
[08:07] <fdoving> archangel_: but you don't ever use that.
[08:07] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there :)
[08:07] <archangel_> yeah
[08:07] <fdoving> firemonkeyballz: no, i can't think of anything that would require more than 1G swap.
[08:08] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[08:08] <firemonkeyballz> windows
[08:08] <firemonkeyballz> ....
[08:08] <archangel_> hehe
[08:08] <fdoving> if you ever find that your swap space is full, get more ram.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Live CD?
[08:08] <cotyrothery> ya im on live cde
[08:08] <cotyrothery> cd
[08:08] <hatta>  anything that requires 1gig + physical memory of ram
[08:08] <cotyrothery> what happened
[08:08] <cotyrothery> i got a black screen
[08:08] <cotyrothery> when i did that
[08:09] <cotyrothery> then had to shut down
[08:09] <hatta> I tried to write a png graph of the entire gene ontology project data
[08:09] <firemonkeyballz> hatta I doubt any rendering progz in linux would
[08:09] <fdoving> if mem+1Gswap is filled you have a memleak somewhere.
[08:09] <hatta> graphviz needed more than a couple gigs for that
[08:10] <cotyrothery> so what do i do
[08:10] <firemonkeyballz> fdoving think im going to atleast use a 1gig and 512mb as a swp
[08:10] <firemonkeyballz> just in case
[08:10] <cotyrothery> I dont know how i can even run kubuntu
[08:10] <cotyrothery> i only have 128 mb of ram
[08:11] <cotyrothery> I cant run ubuntu though
[08:11] <firemonkeyballz> umm maybe damn small linux is for you?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Turn off Konversation Logging :)
[08:11] <cotyrothery> i did
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I told you to wait on me :) You ran off
[08:11] <hatta> 128 isn't *that* bad
[08:11] <archangel_> if I have another HD, can I just hook it up and let will register like windows does?
[08:11] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[08:11] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:11] <cotyrothery> 128 is horrible
[08:11] <cotyrothery> let me see you use it
[08:11] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You press Alt+ctrl+F1 to get to a terminal
[08:11] <cotyrothery> ya
[08:11] <hatta> I wouldn't use kde with it
[08:12] <cotyrothery> it scared me
[08:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[08:12] <frojnd> where can I find quotation in writer?
[08:12] <firemonkeyballz> technically you can run DSL (damn small linux) in that space
[08:12] <cotyrothery> What would you use
[08:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: try it now :)
[08:12] <hatta> but fluxbox will work just fine with 128
[08:12] <cotyrothery> why
[08:12] <cotyrothery> do you want me to hit alt+ctrl+f7
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+F1 Then ALt+Ctrl+F7
[08:13] <cotyrothery> so what happens once im at the black screen
[08:13] <cotyrothery> how will i get back
[08:13] <cotyrothery> without shutting down
[08:13] <firemonkeyballz> what else do I need to do to pre install
[08:13] <firemonkeyballz> such as the other things than swap
[08:14] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech: What do i do once im at the black screen? and how do i get back with out having to shut down?
[08:14] <firemonkeyballz> cuz I dont know much about the volume formats availabe
[08:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Alt+Ctrl+F7 gets you back here
[08:15] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:15] <cotyrothery> alright so you want me to go to it now
[08:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Yes
[08:16] <cotyrothery> and do what
[08:16] <rolando> how stable would you say feisty fawn is?
[08:16] <rolando> final release should be in just over a month
[08:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/*
[08:16] <cotyrothery> alright
[08:16] <leafw> did anyone overcame the sleep/resume issues on a thinkpad T60 ?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> rolando: Run the latest Herd and you tell us
[08:17] <rolando> DaSkreech: thats what im thinking about
[08:17] <rolando> i think ill give it a shot
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rolando: I meant the LIve CD :)
[08:17] <rolando> oh
[08:17] <rolando> yea that would be safer
[08:17] <DaSkreech> rolando:  :-D
[08:18] <premier_> hello, my printer isnt working.  The print jobs window says the a file I tried to print is "processesing".  Ive been able to print before, but yesterday is suddenly stopped working
[08:18] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Let me know when you are back
[08:18] <cotyrothery> im back
[08:18] <cotyrothery> it said permision denied
[08:18] <firemonkeyballz> how should I format this second part? not sure what file system to use
[08:19] <miltos> i want to change the ugly default cursror of X11...and i can't, any help?
[08:19] <firemonkeyballz> mitos at boot?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok forget it then
[08:20] <fdoving> miltos: find 'mouse' somewhere in system settings.
[08:20] <cotyrothery> what was it
[08:20] <DaSkreech> alt+space -> I -> <enter>
[08:20] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I was dumping the logs you have already
[08:20] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:20] <cotyrothery> ok im starting up the install
[08:21] <firemonkeyballz> come on I wanna preformat the drive before install with qt parted
[08:21] <firemonkeyballz> buh I dont know what file system to use
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: use ext3
[08:22] <firemonkeyballz> how secure is it?
[08:22] <nixternal> just as secure as everything else
[08:22] <nixternal> :)
[08:22] <firemonkeyballz> lol tru
[08:22] <cotyrothery> is there anything you want me to do at the install start up
[08:23] <firemonkeyballz> kinda think of it.. since mac os 10 is part unix does this mean we will be seeing viruses float around our systems?
[08:23] <nixternal> well mac os x has been part bsd for years, haven't seen anything yet
[08:24] <firemonkeyballz> curious are there any virus scanners ?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes, there are
[08:24] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech : What do you want me to do at the install start up
[08:24] <firemonkeyballz> any good ones?
[08:25] <philip> hello just finish installing kubuntu
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> KApersky I believe makes one
[08:25] <firemonkeyballz> sorry
[08:25] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Go through it.
[08:25] <premier_> philip: half the battle
[08:25] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:25] <nixternal> firemonkeyballz: no virus scanner is good :)  clamav is what is available for Linux
[08:25] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: let me know if it comes to a point you get stuck
[08:25] <cotyrothery> alright
[08:25] <nixternal> it scans your emails to make sure you don't infect Windows users really
[08:26] <premier_> firemonkeyballz: you shouldnt ever need a virus scanner unless your running a server or something
[08:26] <cotyrothery> with linux you dont get viruses right
[08:26] <cotyrothery> becuase most of them are for windows
[08:26] <cotyrothery> is this true
[08:26] <nixternal> cotyrothery: they are there, but it is up to you to run sudo run_virus :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: That's a safe assumption but not 100% true
[08:26] <premier_> cotyrothery: yeah, only recently did they start making them for macs
[08:26] <philip> why do xandros OS have anti virus scanner?
[08:26] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:26] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: if you don't get one tell us and we'll call a newspaper
[08:26] <philip> i tried their 30days trial
[08:26] <cotyrothery> I hate people that make viruses
[08:27] <firemonkeyballz> yes buh technically... every os will eventually see one virus in its age
[08:27] <nixternal> philip: the scanner, scans your OUTGOING mail for viruses
[08:27] <philip> ok
[08:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> ubuntu has anti-virus too
[08:27] <nixternal> I have a ton of worms in my inbox that I get across the mailing lists. I could forward those to Windows users and ruin their day :)
[08:27] <lipe> i need to mount a partition that contains the windows ... how can i make it, please ?!
[08:27] <cotyrothery> why do people make viruses in the first place
[08:27] <Hasrat_In_Office> philip their developers were paranoid
[08:27] <premier_> most linux viruses exsist to prove that you can make a virus for linux, and the security holes are patched almost immediately
[08:27] <cotyrothery> oh
[08:27] <philip> Hasrat_In_Office lol
[08:27] <cotyrothery> well that is nice to know
[08:27] <nixternal> premier_: true++
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: challenge
[08:28] <cotyrothery> huuu
[08:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery to try out in real life the power of their coding skills
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: and more recently money
[08:28] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-3g | lipe
[08:28] <firemonkeyballz> yea I know why microsoft usually scratches their heads
[08:28] <ubotu> lipe: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution.    I cant get my printer to work... its just not responding-
[08:28] <cotyrothery> and i hate everything about them
[08:28] <firemonkeyballz> cuz you have to go line by line to find the darn bug
[08:28] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery no they dont
[08:28] <cotyrothery> yes they do
[08:28] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I know of two virii that existed in the wild
[08:28] <tro> DaSkreech: wrt that black screen at start-up thing. there was a kernel config option for that
[08:29] <miltos> fdowing, the mouse settings doensn't set the kde mouse as the default X11 cursor!, any other help?
[08:29] <cotyrothery> who here once a virus
[08:29] <cotyrothery> no one
[08:29] <cotyrothery> so people who makes them suck
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> daskreech I had a copy of the virii toolkit at onepoint... just one problem... I had a severe ethical delema
[08:29] <Carollo> Hi, i need some program like DDC Control, but it has to work with LG 1900J :/ any ideas?
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> couldnt do it
[08:29] <cotyrothery> all they do is screw up your computer
[08:29] <firemonkeyballz> not all
[08:30] <firemonkeyballz> latest is called a rootkit
[08:30] <firemonkeyballz> think  you know what that means since you've been here long enough
[08:30] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery tell me how norton, mcafee and other large anti-virus companies survive! because of hackers who write viruses for Windows platform, these companies are able to hire programmers to write anti-virus apps, sell em to dumb customers and ride shiny cars from home to work and vice versa in sillicon valley, california
[08:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: One of them infected the machine found other machines that had the same flaw infected them then fixed the hole so nothign else could exploit it :)
[08:31] <premier_> oh, yeah, rootkits.  They'd do things like allow a remote website to install software under the users node
[08:31] <philip> Hasrat_In_Office you have a point
[08:31] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: So you really wanted to catch that virus :)
[08:32] <premier_> Hasrat_In_Office: Dont hate on the anti-virus people.  If people use windows, there's going to be virii. And if theres virii, theres nothing wrong with writing software to fix it
[08:32] <cotyrothery> well  i still dont like them
[08:32] <firemonkeyballz> if anyof you need a copy of shmoo.iso lemme kno
[08:32] <premier_> The real problem is people using windows
[08:32] <cotyrothery> no
[08:32] <cotyrothery> why would i wnat a virus
[08:32] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:32] <cotyrothery> yep
[08:32] <premier_> shmoo.iso?
[08:32] <cotyrothery> i hate window
[08:32] <cotyrothery> s
[08:32] <cotyrothery> with all my heart
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> hacker convention... and group whom made it
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> contains tools
[08:33] <BluesKaj> Hasrat_In_Office, some ppl claim (conspiracy theorists) that Norton etc write some of the viruses to keep themselves in business :)
[08:33] <cotyrothery> What good is windows when you have linux
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> and tor
[08:33] <firemonkeyballz> basically its used for anon
[08:33] <premier_> BluesKaj: didnt they right a linux virus to try to market anti-virus to linux?
[08:33] <Hasrat_In_Office> i'm not hating the anti-virus people. I admit the programmers/hackers who work for Symantec are seriously highly skilled because as soon as a new virus comes out, they find it out somehow and either release a patch for it or integrate the patch into their regular signature updates
[08:34] <BluesKaj> premier_, dunno, never heard that one
[08:34] <premier_> they didnt release it, they just wanted to prove they could
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: How do you know they didn't release it ? ;-)
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[08:34] <DaSkreech> premier_: Yes they did
[08:34] <cotyrothery> who here likes windows
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> tru most rootkits hide in windows
[08:34] <premier_> cotyrothery: me! (jk lol)
[08:34] <firemonkeyballz> and oh so verry well
[08:35] <DaSkreech>  It allws me to know when the SUN has gone away and I can break out eh java :)
[08:35] <cotyrothery> Well i hat WINDOWS
[08:35] <cotyrothery> hate
[08:35] <premier_> DaSkreech: there a-making thats open-source now! yea!
[08:35] <declan> hi, is anyone able to help with simplymepis here?
[08:35] <firemonkeyballz> oh speaking of wich sun did make a personal computer that you had no controll over in the 90's
[08:35] <cotyrothery> and there overly priced software
[08:35] <premier_> declan: I used it for a while
[08:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: oh wait you mean the Operating System?  However, you do realize that if they really did anything like that, they would have had to do it with extreme caution
[08:36] <DaSkreech>  Windows are cool though. And sometimes The Doors
[08:36] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:36] <firemonkeyballz> not talking about solaris
[08:36] <cotyrothery> well microsoft
[08:36] <cotyrothery> i hate microsoft
[08:36] <firemonkeyballz> and solaris is linux
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Not really :)
[08:36] <cotyrothery> ubuntu is the best linux out
[08:36] <declan> premier: im trying out 6.5, its based on kubuntu now so should be very similar. having a problem with a wifi card that is supposed to be working out of box!
[08:36] <premier_> firemonkeyballz: solaris is unix, linux is unix, solaris is not linux
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Naw I have no beef with Microsoft as a technical company.  I have a dlink dwl-g510 pci card. when i try iwconfig in terminal it lists no wifi cads
[08:38] <premier_> DaSkreech: alright, technically no, but it is... what do they call it... a unix derivative
[08:38] <cotyrothery> does windows lose money to linux
[08:38] <BluesKaj> and BSD is NOT LINUX ! :)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> premier_: It's UNIX like
[08:38] <cotyrothery> or because of linux
[08:38] <premier_> declan: can you do lspci?
[08:38] <firemonkeyballz> if microsoft could have their way... they would be a political power
[08:38] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery yes, a lot of money
[08:38] <DaSkreech> BSD IS UNIX
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Wow that feels like shouting  :)
[08:38] <BluesKaj> yup
[08:38] <cotyrothery> funny
[08:38] <cotyrothery> i hope they go broke
[08:38] <Hasrat_In_Office> cotyrothery they have already started to lose money
[08:38] <nysosym> DaSkreech: sure, but i wan't gnome files on my kde machine
[08:38] <cotyrothery> that is great
[08:39] <cotyrothery> are they tryiing to stop it
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: I guess you mean you don't
[08:39] <cotyrothery> so they can get money back
[08:39] <declan> premier_: lists as network controller, RALink RT2561/RT61 Rev B
[08:39] <Hasrat_In_Office> with kde and beryl, i wouldn't want to spend a single dime on vista
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: ask in #kde what the closest thing is
[08:39] <cotyrothery> I love kde
[08:39] <premier_> Hasrat_In_Office: are we sure that people arent just buying macs, or not buying new computers at all?
[08:39] <cotyrothery> i cant wait for it to be my main os
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Oh tell me what they say
[08:40] <unholyskorn> i got vista ultimate
[08:40] <unholyskorn> lol
[08:40] <cotyrothery> it sucks
[08:40] <premier_> unholy is right
[08:40] <cotyrothery> it has all sorts of problems
[08:40] <philip> i hate mac you need to buy the mac os and computers grrrrr
[08:40] <qex> hi
[08:40] <premier_> unholyskorn: can you tell us what you think?
[08:40] <qex> anyone good at C?
[08:40] <Alpha_Cluster> guys MS bashing to #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <cotyrothery> the dumb install still has not loaded
[08:41] <unholyskorn> its ok
[08:41] <unholyskorn> looks nice, runs ok
[08:41] <unholyskorn> its just xp with a newer look and some new features
[08:41] <BluesKaj> I see PC World magazine touting the wonders of the Vista Aero eye candy system ... the editorials are also saying that it's a fait accompli , so we'd better get used to Vista, cuz it's gonna rule whether we like it or not.
[08:41] <premier_> declan, I know you have to do lsmod and look to see if there is a driver for you wireless card, but after that I cant help you. Im fairly new myself
[08:41] <Hasrat_In_Office> truly speaking, if MS sends me a free copy of windows Vista with latest hardware and video cards to test their Aero thingy, i would decline the offer since 1. i don't have time for Vista for numerous reasons (it would take me a whole day to describe the bugs found after vista's official release) 2. speaking of 3d accelerated desktop, Beryl/Compwiz kicks arse and it would take MS some more 20 years of research and an
[08:42] <Hasrat_In_Office> lmao Aero Eye candy system
[08:42] <unholyskorn> i cant even get beryl to work
[08:42] <declan> premier_: no problem thanks. So is ralink my card or the driver it thinks is for my card?
[08:42] <premier_> unholyskorn: 3 new features?
[08:42] <unholyskorn> yah a couple
[08:42] <firemonkeyballz> so its just the ext3 and swap?
[08:42] <cotyrothery> Well when i get kubuntu working i will be in heaven
[08:42] <premier_> declan: should be the card itself.  I dont know what lsmod would return if anything
[08:42] <Hasrat_In_Office> nobody is bashing MS. everyone is just telling the utmost truth
[08:42] <cotyrothery> no more slowness
[08:43] <declan> premier_: thanks mate. appreciate it.
[08:43] <firemonkeyballz> so its just the ext3 and swap?
[08:43] <Alpha_Cluster> Hasrat_In_Office: i know but it doesn;t belong in the support channel
[08:44] <BluesKaj> dunno i tried A Vista RC back in nov ...it din't recognize most of my hardware and my pc is less than a yr old
[08:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> by the way can i ask an important question to any operator in this room, if they are awake? i see that some people/IP Addresses have been banned. what did they actually do to get banned?
[08:44] <Hasrat_In_Office> alpha oh okay then :P
[08:44] <cotyrothery> i guess flood
[08:44] <qex> anyone got c?
[08:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> no it can't be flood
[08:45] <qex> sorry
[08:45] <qex> anyone good at c++?
[08:45] <premier_> yeah, I noticed at a best buy on a good, new laptop that vista said it was using 50% of the system resources with nothing running but the os... Im currently using 1% of processor and 10% of ram, with several programs running
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> Its just annoyhing when i come in here and see floods of MS stuff insead of support stuff
[08:45] <cotyrothery> flooding will get you banned
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: like what type of C++ stuff?
[08:45] <firemonkeyballz> qex like GCC?
[08:45] <unholyskorn> yah my vista runs fine
[08:45] <nysosym> DaSkreech: the alternative is........................... inkscape ^^
[08:45] <Hasrat_In_Office> g++ forever! :)
[08:45] <Alpha_Cluster> firemonkeyballz: it woulg be g++
[08:45] <unholyskorn> and my comp is rated 4.5 outta 5.9 on the rank
[08:45] <BluesKaj> Alpha_Cluster, well , got a question ?
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> did say C also
[08:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> so alpha are you an op?
[08:46] <Alpha_Cluster> lol no
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> qex if you have ubuntu you have all the tools you need
[08:46] <Hasrat_In_Office> oh ok
[08:46] <premier_> guys maybe we should move to offtopic
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> just look it up
[08:46] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: you need to install build-essentials
[08:46] <firemonkeyballz> technically no
[08:47] <firemonkeyballz> I thought the were there
[08:47] <Alpha_Cluster> g++ is not installed by default
[08:47] <firemonkeyballz> what about the C shell
[08:47] <Hasrat_In_Office> g++ is installed by default in edgy
[08:47] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Ha ha :) yeah that's what I thought
[08:47] <Alpha_Cluster> no g++ is part of the build-essentials package
[08:47] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: How far has it reached?
[08:48] <cotyrothery> when is the dumb install box going to come up
[08:48] <bonbonthejon> how do I restart kicker
[08:48] <cotyrothery> no were
[08:48] <cotyrothery> the install box has not come up
[08:48] <premier_> bonbonthejon: alt-f2 and type kicker
[08:48] <cotyrothery> so i have not started
[08:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, any firm date in April for the Fiesty release ?
[08:48] <bonbonthejon> premier_: its running now, I want to restart it, there is a dcop command
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !feisty
[08:48] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:48] <gioacchino> hello
[08:49] <premier_> bonbonthejon: no clue
[08:49] <qex> alpha_cluster -> this is the problem with me c project
[08:49] <qex> line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:49] <qex>  line 7: `char *randstr(int);
[08:49] <philip> what's the difference between edgy and fiesty?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> There is the schedule
[08:49] <gioacchino> I have a question
[08:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: that's worrying
[08:49] <gioacchino> how to use sudo on a sh script ?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: are you sure you don't want to try a alternate install?
[08:49] <qex> line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:49] <qex> line 7: `char *randstr(int);
[08:49] <BluesKaj> April has 30 days...i wonder which day , that's all
[08:49] <cotyrothery> what is the alternate install
[08:50] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery:  a new CD
[08:50] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: wait you are using a pointer like a function...
[08:50] <cotyrothery> So i need to use another cd
[08:50] <gioacchino> !it
[08:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:51] <firemonkeyballz> buh when its public it would beta right?
[08:51] <BluesKaj> ahh, April 19th , then i'll wait til 21st or 22nd to install off the net
[08:52] <cotyrothery> Should i use another CD
[08:52] <cotyrothery> is that what your saying
[08:52] <manu_> peewee
[08:52] <qex> Alpha_Cluster -> Im not so good at c or english speak so please explain what you mean? :) can you change the code to me so it works or what do you mean?
[08:53] <firemonkeyballz> ummm do I need to turn off lilo so windows can boot?
[08:53] <unholyskorn> do i have to restart linux and crap when i install updates and stuff?
[08:53] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: how are you using randstr? cause you have it set as a pointer and are using it as a function at the same time.
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> unholyskorn: of course no
[08:54] <Alpha_Cluster> qex: i would try and help more but i have to goto class.
[08:54] <cotyrothery> daskreech are you there
[08:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: yes
[08:55] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You have a burner?
[08:55] <cotyrothery> no
[08:56] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: :-( How much for a stick of RAM?
[08:56] <cotyrothery> what
[08:56] <iamsam9895> I know that guy!
[08:56] <cotyrothery> i dont knwo i think 20 to 40 dollors
[08:56] <iamsam9895> You frequent the pspvault.com forums, don't you?
[08:56] <jim__> does anyone know of a good resource to learn command line programming
[08:56] <cotyrothery> ya
[08:56] <cotyrothery> im him
[08:56] <iamsam9895> Yes, I know.
[08:57] <iamsam9895> Hence your name.
[08:57] <cotyrothery> you go to psp-vault
[08:57] <cotyrothery> lol
[08:57] <iamsam9895> Yeah.
[08:57] <cotyrothery> you cought me
[08:57] <iamsam9895> So I did.
[08:58] <maelcum_> jim__ :gogle for "bash tutorial" and read more than one
[08:58] <cotyrothery> getting hlep
[08:58] <maelcum_> *google
[08:58] <cotyrothery> i never get help
[08:58] <cotyrothery> im the one always helping
[08:58] <iamsam9895> My ati card doesn't work with kubuntu.
[08:58] <iamsam9895> It's a ATiRADEON 9200
[08:59] <cotyrothery> DaSkreech are you there
[08:59] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Sorry someone came to the door
[08:59] <iamsam9895> I keep getting a  "XFree86-DRI" missing error.
[08:59] <jim__> thanks maelcum
[08:59] <cotyrothery> you just disappear most of the time
[09:00] <Hasrat_In_Office> is the room #ubuntu only for users with GNOME only?
[09:00] <cotyrothery> oh ok
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I'm at work coding
[09:00] <cotyrothery> oh
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: how did you get this Cd?
[09:00] <cotyrothery> your a coder
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Hasrat_In_Office: Not really
[09:00] <cotyrothery> free ship it
[09:00] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Did it come with Two CDs?
[09:01] <cotyrothery> i have a lot
[09:01] <Hasrat_In_Office> i love downloading and burning liveCDs from the net
[09:01] <firemonkeyballz> any need to lable my part?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Oh :)
[09:01] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: they come in a sleeve right?
[09:01] <iamsam9895> Will somebody help me get my ATiRADEON card to work with kubuntu?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !ati | iamsam9895
[09:01] <ubotu> iamsam9895: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati | iamsam9895
[09:02] <DaSkreech> I win
[09:02] <iamsam9895> Thank you Skreech!
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> :(
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Hey No head starts!!
[09:02] <unholyskorn> anyone good with beryl AND ATI?
[09:02] <Skuller> yea wait for me to start too
[09:03] <DaSkreech> unholyskorn: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Watch out for that...... tree
[09:04] <Skuller> DaSkreech: damn...u cudda told me b4
[09:04] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[09:04] <cotyrothery> i have over 5 cd's of kubuntu
[09:04] <firemonkeyballz> alright Im doing it
[09:05] <firemonkeyballz> geez just so you can stop ignoring me
[09:05] <firemonkeyballz> just have some reservations about fooking up my drive
[09:05] <cotyrothery> so is there away to fix my problem
[09:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Are all of them Live Cds?
[09:05] <cotyrothery> i would think so
[09:05] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Are they all printed with Desktop Cd ?
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> uhhh
[09:06] <cotyrothery> they are what i got from kubuntu
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> cd ver I belive was a
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> 600mb iso
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> single
[09:06] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: The Install still hasn't opened?
[09:06] <iamsam9895> Did you check the MD5's?
[09:06] <firemonkeyballz> and the DVD was 3.5
[09:06] <cotyrothery> nope
[09:07] <cotyrothery> it might be because im running irc
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: What's the command for the ubiquity installer?
[09:07] <cotyrothery> and it is lagging my computer
[09:07] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: I hope not :)
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no idea...I rarely do installs
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[09:08] <cotyrothery> I wish this night mare would end
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> cotyrothery get Damn SMall Linux
[09:08] <cotyrothery> All i want is a working kubuntu os :(
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> its just as good
[09:08] <cotyrothery> i cant
[09:08] <firemonkeyballz> just smaller
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> why
[09:09] <Skuller> hey guys how much space on my hdd does /media take?
[09:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: The alternate install would work
[09:09] <cotyrothery> even if i wanted it
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> why
[09:09] <cotyrothery> so i should use another disk
[09:09] <cotyrothery> because i dont have a burner
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> dsl is 5mb
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> er
[09:09] <firemonkeyballz> 50
[09:09] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: and none of yours are a non live install
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> touch pad is sensitive in linux geez
[09:10] <cotyrothery> how would they be non live
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Can you shut down syslogd
[09:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: they have a text install
[09:10] <cotyrothery> I thought they were all live cd
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> damn small linux can run in windows and boot off a thumb drive
[09:10] <firemonkeyballz> and install on to the hard drive
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think so.
[09:10] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: no not all.  What did i stumble into. :-)
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> how do I prevent the linux loader to write to the master boot
[09:14] <firemonkeyballz> lol
[09:14] <Skuller> waylandbill: lol...u joined rong time...
[09:14] <cotyrothery> im gonig to drop this computer out of an airplan
[09:15] <BluesKaj> large swap partition . waylandbill
[09:15] <firemonkeyballz> !loader
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <Skuller> !grub
[09:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:15] <cotyrothery> if i dont get kubuntu working i may never be happyt
[09:15] <BluesKaj> !bootloader
[09:15] <waylandbill> probably not a bad idea when the default kernel config kills older processes when out of memory.
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok Drama Queen :)
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> ok buh I already have installed windows
[09:16] <cotyrothery> lol
[09:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Have anyone with Fast net and a CD burner?
[09:16] <cotyrothery> im a he
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> can you tell grub not to load?
[09:16] <cotyrothery> no
[09:16] <Hasrat_In_Office> lol
[09:16] <BluesKaj> what is it with ppl having boot probs after installing Kubuntu lately ...I don't get it?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You'd have to do more acting than that to get Drama King!
[09:16] <Skuller> lol
[09:16] <Hasrat_In_Office> me either blue rofl
[09:16] <firemonkeyballz> Im just not ready to install yet
[09:17] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Guess wedo it the painful way
[09:17] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: running live CD?
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> Im cautious
[09:17] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: started lagging yet?
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[09:17] <waylandbill> jump in the water's fine. :-D
[09:17] <cotyrothery> oooookkkk
[09:17] <cotyrothery> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i just want kubuntu to work :(
[09:17] <Hasrat_In_Office> lmao it's rocket science, aint it firemonkey :P
[09:17] <firemonkeyballz> wayland!
[09:17] <Skuller> i was just wondering guys....are there IRC channels for help like this for mzoft os's?
[09:18] <cotyrothery> it is lagging bad
[09:18] <firemonkeyballz> will grub write over windows' boot loader?
[09:18] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: just kidding. take all the time you need
[09:18] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: i dont think it will
[09:18] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: it goes to the mbr, but will chainload windows.
[09:18] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: from the linux boot loader 'grub' u will be able to select
[09:19] <Skuller> windows...from there the windows loader will come
[09:19] <firemonkeyballz> ok...
[09:19] <BluesKaj> windows MBR should be recognized by Grub and install it in the Grub menu
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Drama King :-P
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Ok lets do a quick clean up
[09:19] <firemonkeyballz> but windows wont recognize ubuntu?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: You ok with jumping back and forth between the Terminal and the GUI
[09:20] <parkerw207> is this a linux distro for those windows pocket pc phones ?
[09:20] <waylandbill> I had dual boot to windows for a long time. finally I ditched windows except for a remote terminal session to a windows server. If you have windows installed, don't worry about it. You'll get grub just fine.
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: in what ways?
[09:20] <parkerw207> i just bough one :p
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> in its boot menu
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: yes
[09:20] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: you mean "boot.ini" menu? no
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: no
[09:20] <Skuller> firemonkeyballz: sorry about that.....
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:20] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, a remote terminal session to a windows server. What is that ?
[09:20] <firemonkeyballz> thanx wayland
[09:21] <waylandbill> but if you have boot.ini options, they show up after selecting windows
[09:21] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: same as xdmcp session. multiple desktops, but for windows.
[09:21] <waylandbill> multiple desktop sessions I should say
[09:22] <waylandbill> krdc is the client for it. works nice actually.
[09:22] <BluesKaj> but you say you dumped windows , so connected to remote windows server from linux ?
[09:22] <firemonkeyballz> so say I already installed windows and grub pops up
[09:23] <DaSkreech> and now cotyrothery goes away and leaves me :)
[09:23] <firemonkeyballz> what do I need to do
[09:23] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: dumped it from my laptop I meant.
[09:23] <firemonkeyballz> when installing
[09:23] <waylandbill> so no more dual boot
[09:23] <adrian_> wie komme ich in den ubuntu chat
[09:23] <waylandbill> firemonkeyballz: the installer will walk you through the set up
[09:23] <BluesKaj> IC , ok so you still had windows access across a LAN
[09:24] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:24] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: exactly. across a lan.
[09:24] <Skuller> does samba come anywhere in thtis situation?
[09:24] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I'm a man of too few words I guess. LOL!
[09:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, i have a windows network setup , but i don't have the nerve to dump windows from my pc entirely , altho wife's pc is running XP
[09:25] <adrian_> hallo!
[09:25] <waylandbill> Skuller: for a terminal session? no.
[09:25] <adrian_> how i come in the ubuntu channel
[09:26] <BluesKaj> oh how do you access from the terminal, waylandbill?
[09:26] <Skuller> waylandbill: so what are things that can be done with a terminal session when on LAN with windows?
[09:26] <firemonkeyballz> ok in qtparted what does the active status mean
[09:27] <waylandbill> Skuller, BluesKaj: you know vnc session? similar. You run using the remote's cpu and network connections. You operate as xdmcp though. Someone could use the system and you have a seperate session.
[09:27] <adrian_> hallo!!!
[09:27] <waylandbill> so you aren't controlling their desktop, the server gives you a seperate one
[09:27] <unholyskorn> what was the kubuntu channel for beryl support etc...?
[09:28] <Skuller> waylandbill: sorry i asked...i am not so tech knowledged rite now...
[09:28] <waylandbill> :)
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> ok in qtparted what does the active status mean
[09:28] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: That means that drive is bootable by the BIOS
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> k
[09:28] <BluesKaj> sounds complicated , waylandbill ...had enuff trouble setting samba up :)
[09:28] <adrian_> on all: how i come in the ubuntu channel
[09:28] <DaSkreech> unholyskorn: #ubuntu-effects
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> daskeech thats why windows cant see that diag part
[09:28] <waylandbill> XP pro you can have a local user and a remote user. More than that you need special windows version.
[09:28] <firemonkeyballz> its above it
[09:29] <Skuller> ohh
[09:29] <premier_> how is linux's mactel support?
[09:29] <firemonkeyballz> hrm
[09:29] <BluesKaj> samba works , i'll stick with that for the time beingm :)
 and a german ubuntu channel?
[09:30] <waylandbill> I'm taking off, if you ever want to know more about it, I'd be happy to explain it more.
[09:30] <BluesKaj> stuff to do ..later gents
 hallo?
[09:30] <waylandbill> take it easy everyone. weekend's here everyone have a beer. ;-)
[09:31] <Skuller> waylandbill: laterz man
[09:31] <firemonkeyballz> crap
[09:32] <firemonkeyballz> damn qtparted
[09:32] <firemonkeyballz> didnt format the boot part
[09:32] <DaSkreech> adrian_: you can be in multiple channels at the same time
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Bye BluesKaj
[09:34] <provolik> How can I set personalized key for vice?
[09:34] <cotyrothery> dumb computer froze again
[09:34] <cotyrothery> so i had to shut down
[09:34] <cotyrothery> and restart
[09:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: ok
[09:35] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: Turn of logging :)
[09:35] <cotyrothery> yep
[09:35] <firemonkeyballz> yey second pass did it
[09:35] <firemonkeyballz> !!!
[09:36] <firemonkeyballz> :DDDDD
[09:36] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: open Kons
[09:36] <DaSkreech> konsole
[09:37] <cotyrothery> ok
[09:37] <firemonkeyballz> is there any util to check the integ of the file systems?
[09:37] <cotyrothery> it is open
[09:37] <firemonkeyballz> or does qt do that?
[09:38] <unholyskorn> what was that channel again?
[09:38] <unholyskorn> the one for beryl support etc..
[09:39] <firemonkeyballz> is there any util to check the integ of the file systems?
[09:39] <firemonkeyballz> or does qt do that?
[09:39] <frojnd> what ftw means??
[09:41] <cotyrothery> so what do you want me to do in konsole
[09:41] <abattoir> firemonkeyballz: fsck ?
[09:41] <unholyskorn> what was that damn channel lol
[09:41] <abattoir> !fsck | firemonkeyballz
[09:41] <ubotu> firemonkeyballz: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually.  I've got a weird problem.
[09:51] <herk> Kaffiene will no longer start after working for about a month. KsCD will start and sisplay CDDB, but will never start playing.
[09:51] <herk> Can anyone point me to a solution?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: what are bugging on? :)
[09:54] <firemonkeyballz> im cautious
[09:54] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: #pspdev
[09:54] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I know I'm asking what you are buggin on now
[09:54] <firemonkeyballz> just noticed 1.77gigs showed up after I parted
[09:55] <DaSkreech> herk: First solution for any app that doesn't work is to start it from Konsole to see the errors
[09:55] <herk> OK, I'll try that.
[09:55] <herk> Thanx!
[09:55] <DaSkreech> On the partition you parted?
[09:55] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[09:56] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I have no idea about the details. Why is this worrying?
[09:56] <Skuller> what is the partition utility for K?
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> data leaking
[09:57] <firemonkeyballz> skuller qtparted
[09:57] <Skuller> k thnx...
[09:58] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: As in data loss Or data growth?
[09:58] <firemonkeyballz> data that just appeared out of nowhere
[09:58] <DaSkreech> isn't it free space?
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Ohhh Lol
[09:58] <DaSkreech>  I know what it is
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> yep
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> he's been contacted by aliens
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah you can get more space from a drive if you partition it
[09:59] <_Daisuke_Ido_> congratulations, son
[09:59] <firemonkeyballz> it use to be a windows volume
[09:59] <firemonkeyballz> help any
[10:00] <geert__> Go Back to Bill if you like that so muth.
[10:01] <DaSkreech> geert__: Quiet
[10:01] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: No. It's ok. By using smaller partitions you can allocate more inodes and get more efficent clusters and tweak more space
[10:02] <DaSkreech> It's just it gets multiplied the bigger the drive gets
[10:02] <geert__> oke Just anoied sorry
[10:02] <Skuller> DaSkreech: why do i have like 7mb of space remainin as 'unformatted space' wich i cant utilise?
[10:02] <firemonkeyballz> its a 33gb part
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Skuller: Normally it's 8 Mb
[10:02] <DaSkreech> You get a Free 1 MB :)
[10:02] <DaSkreech> Don't waste it!!!
[10:02] <Skuller> lol
[10:03] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Yeah. My First hard drive Upgrade was to a 70 MB drive
[10:03] <Skuller> is that the cache or sumthing?
[10:03] <firemonkeyballz> this is an 80gb
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Skuller: I forget the reason. It's some IDE spec thing
[10:03] <firemonkeyballz> only acer stole 4 gb
[10:03] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Your drive is huuuuuuge
[10:03] <Skuller> DaSkreech: hmm....ok..thanx fer da info
[10:03] <sinisterguy> i need some help with beagle: it won't index my akregator stories or contacts or calendars/todos
[10:04] <firemonkeyballz> and parted in half after that
[10:04] <DaSkreech> so resizing the clusters can easily get you a few hundred MB extra slack
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> eh
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> ...
[10:05] <firemonkeyballz> dont realy care unless its a few gigs
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> ukno why Im so cautious
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> ?
[10:06] <firemonkeyballz> has something to do with a ye old copy of redhat
[10:07] <firemonkeyballz> think its version 5
[10:07] <HaSH> !eol
[10:07] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop.  I tried opening KsCD and it opens but isn't showing the CD. It returns the "normal" errors plus "Invalid reply from mediamanager."
[10:12] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: :)
[10:12] <DaSkreech> cotyrothery: gone?
[10:12] <herk> When I try to start Kaffeine from the menu, it will do the bouncing-ball Kaffeine symbol, but then will just quit.
[10:12] <DaSkreech> herk: try sudo kaffiene
[10:13] <herk> sudo kaffeine returns nothing.
[10:15] <arvid> is there a good partition app to kde?
[10:16] <Skuller> arvid: qtparted?
[10:16] <arvid> Skuller: I'll try it
[10:16] <bonbonthejon> how well supported are the intel wireless cards
[10:16] <DaSkreech> very well I think
[10:16] <bonbonthejon> DaSkreech: i kknow the intel graphics cards are
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Oh....
[10:17] <DaSkreech> My apologies
[10:17] <DaSkreech>  that's waht I read
[10:19] <b0nn> Hi all, I want to install lame, but I cannot find it.  ie.  In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[10:20] <b0nn> I have multiverse uncommented in my apt sources
[10:21] <bonbonthejon> b0nn: have you done apt-get update yet
[10:21] <b0nn> bonbonthejon: I ran apt-cache search and there was no listing
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> xing fingers
[10:21] <b0nn> yes
[10:21] <DaSkreech> b0nn: it's in multiverse
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> if you dont see me in 3 mins
[10:21] <firemonkeyballz> somethings up
[10:21] <b0nn> DaSkreech: b0nn> I have multiverse uncommented in my apt sources
[10:21] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: Ok
[10:22] <DaSkreech> b0nn: pastebin your sources please
[10:22] <DaSkreech> !paste | b0nn
[10:22] <ubotu> b0nn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:22] <DaSkreech> it's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <b0nn> rep multi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <b0nn> deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:22] <b0nn> deb-src http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:22] <b0nn> grep
[10:23] <b0nn> as Ive said twice, multiverse is uncommented in my sopurces
[10:23] <DaSkreech> b0nn: those aren't the ones you need uncommentd
[10:23] <DaSkreech> b0nn: that's edgy-backports
[10:23] <b0nn> ah of course
[10:24] <arvid> err - say that one of my friends just realized he only made his root-partition 3GB big. can you do anyting besides reinstall?
[10:24] <DaSkreech> b0nn: look for a line a few lines above that that says deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[10:24] <DaSkreech> arvid: resize with qtparted
[10:24] <b0nn> yes and append multiverse
[10:24] <DaSkreech> b0nn: Yep
[10:25] <arvid> DaSkreech: kan you resize ext3? Isn't there some problems with it?
[10:25] <b0nn> bloody thing :)
[10:25] <DaSkreech> b0nn: You should be good after that
[10:25] <crazy_penguin> good night to all
[10:25] <herk> DaScreech: kaudiocreator seems to be working fine - finds tracks and rips them.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> arvid: Honestly never tried :)
[10:25] <arvid> DaSkreech: i don't think it's "easy" just like fat and ntfs
[10:26] <nysosym> wow, the new transition when i will logout is very nice! :)
[10:26] <firemonkeyballz> back
[10:26] <DaSkreech> nysosym: feisty?
[10:26] <nysosym> DaSkreech: yes
[10:26] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: WideButt! :)
[10:27] <firemonkeyballz> besides a bit of a diff in the part I think it worked
[10:27] <DaSkreech> nysosym: Yeah very col
[10:27] <slougi> hmm, anyone know why in feisty kde apps will not connect to any internet service after using the wireless assistant to connect to a network?
[10:27] <slougi> more specifically, kio_http seems to break
[10:27] <firemonkeyballz> and on restart the shutdown was kinda buggy
[10:27] <slougi> firefox etc. work fine
[10:27] <nysosym> DaSkreech: but the dialoge is a little bit ugly... :-/
[10:27] <DaSkreech> nysosym: It's version 0.1
[10:28] <firemonkeyballz> tho I still have work to do
[10:28] <Tm_T> slougi: I think #ubuntu+1 will help more in Feisty issues.
[10:28] <nysosym> DaSkreech: ahh ok :)
[10:28] <slougi> Tm_T: right, thanks
[10:28] <firemonkeyballz> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <nysosym> DaSkreech: i have installed kde 4 in feisty, how can i activate that, isn't listed in kdm :-/
[10:29] <DaSkreech> nysosym: There are many steps before you will forget the Old one :)
[10:29] <firemonkeyballz> I need ati 1100 xpress drivers
[10:29] <DaSkreech> nysosym: If you like you can join #kubuntu-devel and tell kwwii thanks for the logout and fade and Riddell thanks for the KDE4 packages :)
[10:30] <sinisterguy> i need some help, beagle isn't indexing my calendar or contact info in kde
[10:30] <DaSkreech> firemonkeyballz: I think ATI just shipped a new set of drivers
[10:30] <sinisterguy> or my akgregator info
[10:30] <firemonkeyballz> didnt see them
[10:30] <DaSkreech> sinisterguy: I think that may be a Beagle issue
[10:30] <firemonkeyballz> keep getting directed towards amd
[10:31] <sinisterguy> DaSkreech: i know its a beagle issue, i just need help solving it
[10:31] <nysosym> DaSkreech: ahh nice i know kwwii :)
[10:31] <geert__> Here Here Prase AMD
[10:31] <DaSkreech> sinisterguy: ask in #ubuntu as well. They would have more beagle knowledge
[10:32] <frojnd> how do I delete all the files that are in folder. I am in that folder??
[10:32] <DaSkreech> We are strigi folks here :)
[10:32] <frojnd> how do I delete all the files that are in folder?? I am in that folder
[10:32] <DaSkreech> frojnd: Ask that again
[10:32] <DaSkreech> rm *
[10:32] <frojnd> tnx
[10:32] <DaSkreech> It won't delete folders
[10:32] <geert__> Just select all end kick
[10:32] <frojnd> oops
[10:32] <frojnd> there are some foldres
[10:32] <frojnd> in that folder that I am in..
[10:33] <DaSkreech> rm -rf ./*
[10:33] <geert__> Take a jump in
[10:33] <geert__> No Driver no derections
[10:34] <hyper_ch> anyone uses feisty and konversation?
[10:34] <geert__> Lets all leave the ship.
[10:34] <frojnd> can I open .bat file?
[10:35] <frojnd> with wine I can't couse it's not exe
[10:37] <hyper_ch> frojnd: in konqueror browse to the .bat file, right click it and then select open with (if wine is shown) or select "run custom command" and type just "wine"
[10:38] <firemonkeyballz> anyone know where I can find ati mobile x1100 drivers?
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> Xpress1100?
[10:39] <firemonkeyballz> yes
[10:39] <frojnd> hyper_ch: wine: could not load L"C:\\Program Files\\xampp\\apache_start.bat": Bad EXE format for
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> use the proprietary fglrx driver
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> I also have a xpress1100
[10:39] <firemonkeyballz> how compatable is it?
[10:39] <hyper_ch> frojnd: well, then I don't know
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> very!! suspend, and decent 3d accel
[10:40] <Jonty> frojnd: wait, why are you trying to run it?
[10:40] <firemonkeyballz> so open gl will work?
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> yes
[10:40] <frojnd> am to have php
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> are you on a laptop?
[10:41] <hatta> why in gods name would you try to run apache under wine on linux?
[10:41] <Jonty> apache runs better using the native version
[10:41] <firemonkeyballz> yea acer 5100-3583
[10:41] <Jonty> the windows version may even still be experimental, I haven't checked
[10:42] <frojnd> Jonty..
[10:42] <frojnd> how can I install apache on my kubuntu thab
[10:42] <frojnd> than*
[10:42] <frojnd> which packages do I need to install
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> ok, got an acer 5050 here, same as yours except with a 14.1 inch screen
[10:42] <Jonty> frojnd: sudo apt-get install apache?
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> are you running edgy?
[10:42] <hatta> frojnd, probably 'apache'
[10:42] <frojnd> yes
[10:42] <firemonkeyballz> nope
[10:42] <hatta> apt-cache search apache
[10:42] <Jonty> frojnd: then sudo apt-get install php5 or php4
[10:42] <hatta> and see which one makes sense
[10:43] <Jonty> ok
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: : dapper?
[10:43] <firemonkeyballz> kubuntu 6.06
[10:43] <firemonkeyballz> wont use edgy till its non beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> edgy is not beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> fiesty is beta
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> !edgy
[10:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:44] <frojnd> jointy: now that I have installed those packages
[10:44] <firemonkeyballz> its said on the website its experimental
[10:44] <frojnd> where is the folder to save my index.php
[10:44] <frojnd> and how do I run server
[10:44] <Jonty> consult the apache docs
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> well.... its not, it was relaesedlast fall
[10:45] <hyper_ch> firemonkeyballz: feisty is "experimental"
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> well im applying updates
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> so
[10:46] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Heil
[10:46] <firemonkeyballz> I may get it anyway
[10:46] <herk> DaScreech: I got help on the #kaffeine channel. Fix was to issue the command: killall -KILL kaffeine
[10:46] <gnomefreak> hi DaSkreech
[10:46] <herk> Now it works.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> herk: ash
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> well... thats going to just get security updates for dapper
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> nothing wrong with dapper though
[10:46] <hyper_ch> frojnd: check whether apache is running:   ps aux | grep apache
[10:46] <hyper_ch> frojnd: and if so, the default folder is /var/www
[10:47] <frojnd> root      2673  0.0  0.4   4648  2120 pts/0    S    22:47   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache
[10:47] <frojnd> www-data  2677  0.0  0.1   4648   960 pts/0    S    22:47   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache
[10:47] <hyper_ch> frojnd: and you can access it by http://localhost or http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:47] <frojnd> tnx
[10:48] <frojnd> where should I save my php files
[10:48] <frojnd> so If I wanna tst <?php> print 5+10; ?>
[10:48] <firemonkeyballz> nosrednaekim do you have issues on shutdown?
[10:48] <frojnd> test*
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> no...
[10:48] <hyper_ch> frojnd: in /var/www
[10:48] <firemonkeyballz> system has haulted once
[10:49] <frojnd> oh
[10:49] <frojnd> great
[10:49] <frojnd> :)
[10:49] <firemonkeyballz> and recently it was displaying the shutdown sequence weird
[10:49] <firemonkeyballz> as if It were trying to show text mode and grapic mode
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> have you installed the fglrx drivers yet?
[10:50] <firemonkeyballz> will
[10:50] <firemonkeyballz> waiting for the updates to finish
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> yeah... they are worth it....
[10:51] <firemonkeyballz> is there a kismet version for ubuntu?
[10:51] <frojnd> hm
[10:52] <frojnd> how do I make access rights to apache server
[10:52] <frojnd> chmod +7777 apache
[10:52] <frojnd> chmod +777 apache
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> that looks right
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> bottom
[10:52] <firemonkeyballz> I think
[10:53] <hyper_ch> frojnd: what do you want to do?
[10:53] <frojnd> write to folder /var/www
[10:53] <frojnd> at the moment I don't have the permission
[10:53] <firemonkeyballz> heh
[10:54] <firemonkeyballz> makes it pointless to use
[10:54] <hyper_ch> frojnd: try to make the files was www-data.www.data
[10:55] <miltos> hi ppl:-]  again
[10:56] <miltos> how can i mount a cue, bin file???
[10:56] <frojnd> I can write if I sudo kate index.php
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> screech if your stil around I saw in grub two entries in for windows
[10:56] <frojnd> but than when I http://<IP_ADDRESS> it askes me to save or open the file
[10:56] <frojnd> :>
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> one xp and the other media center
[10:56] <frojnd> brb
[10:56] <firemonkeyballz> I use media center
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: its because there is a acer recovery partition
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> same here
[10:57] <firemonkeyballz> o
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> and it looks to linux like a windows XP partition
[10:57] <fdoving> frojnd: did you enable the php module in apache?
[10:57] <firemonkeyballz> yea im just gald I can see whats in it
[11:00] <firemonkeyballz> if u realy wanted to... Im thinking you could hide things in it
[11:01] <raindog> I have created a second panel with a taskbar and a trash applet on it.  I have set it to autohide and to be tiny in size.  However, it neither hides or has reduced in size.  How can I get this working correctly.
[11:02] <raindog> Never mind I found that I had to run "dcop kicker kicker restart" for some reason to get the changes to take.
[11:05] <firemonkeyballz> nos have you got the keys to work?
[11:05] <firemonkeyballz> on the keyboard?
[11:05] <frojnd> doving: how can I enable php modul
[11:06] <frojnd> fdoving*
[11:06] <fdoving> frojnd: in konsole, 'sudo a2enmod php5' if you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed. or 'sudo a2enmod php4' if you have libapache2-mod-php4 installed.
[11:07] <frojnd> fdoving: I onlly installed apache and php5
[11:07] <firemonkeyballz> frojnd use php5
[11:07] <firemonkeyballz> its backwards compatable
[11:08] <fdoving> frojnd: then use the first command.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> firemonkeyballz: yes, all multimedia are working