[18:38] <genii> hellhound: Likely your video driver is the culprit. Perhaps running xgl with some ati card or similar
[18:38] <hellhound> LimCore: xorg uses 4-1 PU, kio_uiserver uses 3-1%, and 3-5 other applications list but with no more than 1% cpu usage
[18:38] <LimCore> wyhat is 4-1 PU ?
[18:39] <Freeze> thank you flipstar
[18:39] <sourcemaker2> is there an channel for kubuntu beta?
[18:39] <hellhound> LimCore: sorry i meant 4% - 1% CPU usage
[18:40] <Bauldrick> sourcemaker2: hardy?
[18:41] <SlimeyPete> sourcemaker2: #ubuntu+1 (there is no #kubuntu+1)
[18:41] <Erickj92> what is the name of the konsole IRC application?
[18:42] <LimCore> hellhound: hmm Im not sure
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> irssi is one
[18:42] <LimCore> hellhound: try in text mode (VT-1  alt+ctrl+f1  and +f7 tyo get back)
[18:43] <BluesKaj> irssi, Erickj92
[18:43] <Erickj92> addd irssi. thank you
[18:43] <mi> new xorg suxs ( in hardy)
[18:44] <BluesKaj> mi, then join #ubuntu+1
[18:44] <algyz> Naru:  учи английский
[18:44] <mi> BluesKaj:  i said that 30 days ago
[18:44] <Naru> Я всё слышал.
[18:46] <mi> Naru: Я ponimaju po Ruski
[18:46] <mi> :)
[18:46] <kardesler> s.a
[18:46] <BluesKaj> mi , then go there , we do official releases here.
[18:47] <mi> BluesKaj: just comment ...what is wrong?
[18:47] <algyz> !ru  mi Naru
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru  mi naru - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <algyz> !ru| mi Naru
[18:47] <ubotu> mi Naru: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:47] <BluesKaj> !ru | mi Naru
[18:47] <mi> algyz: sorry but i not rusian
[18:47] <mi> serbia is here :)
[18:48] <algyz> mi:  lithuania also ;)
[18:48] <mi> algyz: niceeee
[18:52] <syke> hi
[18:52] <syke> is this the place to discuss the kde4 hardy packages?
[18:53] <mi> #kubuntu-kde4
[18:53] <algyz> syke:  maybe kde4 channel?
[18:54] <DarkriftX> during boot, before x starts, its trying to init my wifi, but failing with irq_ready timeout, and the boot process isnt going anywhere
[18:54] <DarkriftX> how do i make it just continue
[18:54] <DarkriftX> it keeps doing the timeouts every once in a while
[18:57] <rcg1984> So far I have a RAID set active now, how do I mount the harddrives?
[18:57] <wesley> how can i write to my ntfs drive in kubuntu?
[18:57] <trappist> !ntfs
[18:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[18:57] <algyz> wesley:  mount it with ntfs-3g
[18:58] <wesley> i have the drive mounted but can not write
[18:58] <flipstar> rcg1984: mount the mapper in /dev/mapper
[18:59] <DarkriftX> where is blacklist again?
[19:00] <rcg1984> flipstar: alright thanks.
[19:01] <algyz> wesley:  look into permissions of this disc
[19:01] <flipstar> rcg1984: youre welcome :)
[19:02] <wesley> is using ntfs-config a safe way to write to the drive?
[19:02] <DarkriftX> ntfs3g worked great for me
[19:03] <DarkriftX> i played wow off a ntfs drive for 4 months
[19:03] <DarkriftX> and that has lots of read/writing
[19:03] <wesley> it seems to be working fine
[19:04] <DarkriftX> then it prob is
[19:04] <wesley> thanks everyone
[19:04] <slow-motion> hi
[19:05] <DarkriftX> ok, i enabled my nvidia restricted drivers and not x doesnt seem to want to start, how can i disable those and make it use the ones it was using?
[19:05] <DarkriftX> not x = now x
[19:09] <BusError> gah. my upgrade to heron failed early on, and now I have a bazillion alert nessage with dependency failures
[19:10] <BusError> with a #$#$#@$# alert window that masks the 'close' button and a 'report bug' button that doesn't work
[19:10] <flipstar> hardy=beta, beta=risky
[19:11] <Kheops> hi
[19:11] <Kheops> algyz: hi man :)
[19:12] <rcg1984> alright, I just editted the fstab file to: /dev/mapper/sil_ahbiejbgcgaf /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8-8 0 0 I pointed to that specific folder but mounted it in my Storage Media which gives me the error: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[19:13] <pulaski> hello, I'm trying to get my cannon i550 printer going on my kubuntu gutsy with kernel 2.6.22-14-generic.  I've found a link in the ubuntu forums that details instructions.  I need to get a driver from ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/.  The name of the driver is: bjfiltercups-X.X-X.i386.rpm.  The bjfilterpixus550i... drivers at there don't show one specifically for kernel 2.6.22-14.  The latest kernel listed for the
[19:13] <pulaski> 550i is 2.4-0.  Would this be suitable or can someone suggest another approach"
[19:14] <rcg1984> I have no clue why Ubuntu mounted it in the Storage Media.  How do I fix this issue?
[19:14] <DarkriftX> is there a command line tool to configure your xorg.conf?
[19:14] <Kheops> hey i want to know why my partition don't remain mounted ?
[19:14] <genii> hellhound: Any resolve to your slow xeon box yet?
[19:14] <Kheops> i game the command to mount..
[19:14] <DarkriftX> i need to remove nvidia drivers and make it use something else
[19:14] <Kheops> gave*
[19:14] <Kheops> Jucato: u are here ?
[19:14] <Kheops> hmm he is away..
[19:15] <Kheops> somebody here for support ?
[19:15] <baizidimohamed> il ya quelqu'un
[19:15] <prince_jammys> what type of partition is is?
[19:15] <Kheops> hmmm
[19:15] <prince_jammys> !fr | baizidimohamed
[19:15] <Kheops> ext3
[19:16] <Kheops> i just format it
[19:16] <Kheops> :)
[19:16] <prince_jammys> baizidimohamed: #ubuntu-fr
[19:16] <Kheops> and i mounted..but after restart unmount
[19:16] <ubotu> baizidimohamed: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:16] <hellhound> genii: no not yet... LimCore thought it might be the display driver or something... which I am trying to test out, but it seems as thought it is just processing things slow and in spurts... in otherwords for a few seconds it runs fine and then it drags for another few seconds ( i say it drags when the mouse cursor does not respond for a few seconds)
[19:16] <prince_jammys> Kheops: is there a line in /etc/fstab for it?
[19:16] <Kheops> what is fstab ?
[19:16] <genii> hellhound: I also suspect the display driver, especially if it is an ATI card
[19:16] <prince_jammys> Kheops: it's a configuration file
[19:17] <prince_jammys> !fstab | Kheops
[19:17] <flipstar> rcg1984: just add uid=1000 to the fstab entry
[19:17] <ubotu> Kheops: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[19:17] <Kheops> ky
[19:17] <prince_jammys> Kheops: look at the file. each line shows a device and where it gets mounted
[19:17] <Kheops> i must look
[19:17] <Kheops> oky
[19:17] <prince_jammys> Kheops: if you have the proper fstab line, it will get mounted automatically
[19:17] <moomo> wat is best distribution for linux ,,
[19:18] <rcg1984> so? /dev/mapper/sil_ahbiejbgcgaf /media/windows ntfs-3g uid=1000
[19:18] <genii> hellhound: What does: lspci | grep VGA         say is your video card?
[19:18] <hellhound> genii: yeah i just found out it is ati (built into the server board)  do you know of any other drivers or anything that might help it out
[19:18] <rcg1984> moomo there is no best distro it's a personal preference
[19:18] <pulaski> Does anyone here use a canon i550 printer with their kubuntu?
[19:19] <flipstar> rcg1984: better uid=1000,gid=1000 for group also :)
[19:19] <rcg1984> flipstar, alright will do
[19:19] <genii> hellhound: does: grep xgl /etc/X11/xorg.conf                    produce a line ?
[19:19] <livingdaylight> hello kubunteros
[19:19] <hellhound> genii: it says VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies Onc Rage XL (rev 27)
[19:19] <flipstar> rcg1984: this only applies if youre the first user in the system..else the uid id different..
[19:19] <rcg1984> alright
[19:20] <livingdaylight> is there anyone to speak to when one has been banned?
[19:20] <rcg1984> flipstar: I'm the only user on this computer
[19:20] <eMaX> hello all
[19:20] <flipstar> good :)
[19:20] <BusError> it's adept being broken. aptitude works just fine, and find a way around the few broken packages
[19:20] <prince_jammys> livingdaylight: #ubuntu-ops
[19:20] <hellhound> genii: no grep xgl /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not produce anything
[19:20] <livingdaylight> prince_jammys, thx amigo
[19:20] <eMaX> how can I use sudo bla and have a path set so that "bla" is found as a command? Root has the right path using sudo su -, and the current user also has the right path, only when using sudo, the path appears to be different
[19:21] <genii> hellhound: OK. To see which video driver is being used: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and usually the last entry is the video (but not always)
[19:21] <rcg1984> what's the command for cycle umount than mount?
[19:22] <genii> rcg1984: mount /place -o <new options here>, remount
[19:23] <hellhound> genii: the driver is "ati"
[19:23] <pulaski> Does anyone know of a channel devoted to printers on kubuntu?
[19:24] <prince_jammys> i don't
[19:25] <prince_jammys> you could try asking the question here and in #ubuntu
[19:25] <genii> hellhound: Hmm. OK. So for older ati cards this should be right. Can you copy and paste the entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to the pastebin website please
[19:25] <genii> !paste | hellhound in case you don't know about pastebin
[19:25] <ubotu> hellhound in case you don't know about pastebin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:25] <trappist> pulaski: there's probably no such channel, but you might try #cups, since kubuntu uses cups for printing
[19:26] <pulaski> thanks for responding trappist I've found there now.
[19:27] <hellhound> genii: give me a sec this may take a min or two
[19:28] <crackhead100> hi, my screen saver is running realllllllllllllllllllllllllly slow.. i'm logged in remotely to my machine.. i don't want to have to reboot the machine or reboot the X session.. what should i do, to get my session viewable??
[19:28] <genii> hellhound: OK
[19:28] <crackhead100> genii: can you help? i know you're good
[19:28] <Megiddo> I can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact
[19:29] <hellhound> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60900/
[19:29] <trappist> crackhead100: run `top`, see what's eating your resources (first thing listed, usually) and kill it
[19:29] <arcticpenguin380> will shipit have kde 4 disks?
[19:29] <crackhead100> trappist: did that.. it rotates..
[19:29] <genii> crackhead100: Likely it's just a machine in the middle someplace thats causing the slowdown, about which not much can be done. Have you done a tracepath to your remote box?
[19:29] <genii> hellhound: Reading
[19:30] <crackhead100> genii: it's definitely the local machine
[19:30] <crackhead100> trappist: what do i do if it's "swap"??
[19:31] <flipstar> arcticpenguin380: nope..they dont have beta's yet
[19:31] <Megiddo> I can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact
[19:31] <crackhead100> trappist: can i kill kswapd?
[19:31] <crackhead100> trappist: how can i make the swap bigger,t oo, as i think that must be what's slowing it?
[19:31] <flipstar> you shouldnt kill kswapd
[19:32] <arcticpenguin380> when hardy is released will they have kde4 discs?
[19:32] <crackhead100> flipstar: can i make kswap bigger?
[19:32] <genii> hellhound: I would suggest to comment out the line 71
[19:32] <crackhead100> flipstar: could the swap be too small? or does that change take a partition restructuring?
[19:32] <flipstar> you can increase swap by resizing the disc/swap partitiion
[19:32] <crackhead100> flipstar: yeah, i can't really do that on the fly, from within the session, from a command console, can i?
[19:33] <crackhead100> flipstar: do you know how i can tell swap to stop dragging everything so slow in this session?
[19:33] <flipstar> since it probably is mounted..nope
[19:33] <hellhound> genii: the Option "dpms" on the monitor section
[19:33] <Kheops> i read
[19:33] <Kheops> is not on the fstab
[19:34] <Kheops> hmmm strange
[19:34] <Kheops> i mounted the partition and he isn't there
[19:34] <Kheops> :|
[19:34] <genii> hellhound: Yes. Although likely it will not be some dramatic improvement. I was looking for dri or xgl extensions in there, but none.
[19:34] <flipstar> Kheops: if you mount something it doesnt appear suddenly in fstab
[19:34] <crackhead100> flipstar: i got back in... it was kopete and firefox which were slowing things down...
[19:34] <crackhead100> flipstar: you have any suggestions to cure that in the future?
[19:34] <trappist> crackhead100: if swap's killing you it's because something's using way too much memory.  run top again and hit shift-m to sort by memory usage, and see what it is
[19:35] <Kheops> hhmmmm
[19:35] <Kheops> but ?
[19:35] <Kheops> how can i save the mounting?
[19:35] <flipstar> crackhead100: which client are you using ? maybe you could get a better one..
[19:35] <crackhead100> trappist: i got in.. i killed firefox and kopete
[19:35] <Kheops> after rebooting no mount
[19:35] <Kheops> :)
[19:35] <genii> hellhound: You may want to install the proprietary ati driver.
[19:35] <crackhead100> flipstar: i'm using kubuntu 7.10.. what do you mean? oh... kopete.. and firefox were the culprits...
[19:35] <trappist> crackhead100: yeah firefox leaks pretty bad.  consider switching to firefox3-beta, much better on your memory
[19:36] <flipstar> crackhead100: oh youre connected via ssh ?
[19:36] <flipstar> i thought it might be vnc or so
[19:36] <Kheops> flipstar: so how can i save my mount ?
[19:36] <rcg1984> flipstar:  Thanks, it's working now :-)
[19:36] <flipstar> Kheops: add it in fstab
[19:36] <crackhead100> flipstar: well, i was.. to the command.. 'cause it was so slow, i couldnt drop via alt-f6 or whatever..
[19:36] <Kheops> hmm oky
[19:36] <crackhead100> trappist: what about kopete?
[19:36] <flipstar> rcg1984: cool :)
[19:37] <poulicroque> kopete is nul
[19:37] <Kheops> i can type a command or something like that ?
[19:37] <poulicroque> kopete is for noob
[19:37] <hellhound> genii: yeah i am just using it as a file server... but it is very time consuming to edit my samba conf  ...etc (i do not have it up yet to the other desktops so i do not know it runs slow as fr as moving and saving files)
[19:37] <flipstar> Kheops: someone posted a helpful link for you some time ago..
[19:37] <Kheops> i read it
[19:37] <Kheops> ;)
[19:38] <crackhead100> poulicroque: then what's better for combining a few aim names very efficiently.. ?
[19:38] <Kheops> but don't exist any usefull command ?
[19:38] <trappist> crackhead100: never heard of serious problems with kopete - I use bitlbee for chat, and my wife uses ... um, used to be called gaim, I forget what it's called now
[19:39] <Kheops> trappist: u use linux for chating ?
[19:39] <Kheops> :)))))
[19:39] <trappist> Kheops: of course, I use it for everything
[19:39] <crackhead100> Kheops: yes.. some of us like to talk to people toooo : )
[19:39] <Kheops> lol
[19:39] <Kheops> linux is not for fun..
[19:39] <genii> hellhound: If you have restricted-manager-kde, you can run it by: alt-f2 ... restricted-manager-kde   and it should tell you if there is a suitable driver to install
[19:39] <Kheops> and games
[19:39] <Kheops> and chating
[19:39] <poulicroque> poulicroque
[19:39] <trappist> Kheops: if you say so
[19:39] <Kheops> and other stuff like this
[19:39] <crackhead100> Kheops: then it's useless by that definition
[19:39] <Kheops> nop
[19:40] <crackhead100> Kheops: not all of us are sysadmins : P
[19:40] <Kheops> it is usefull to Servers
[19:40] <Kheops> that's all
[19:40] <poulicroque> mcdonnald is  good..
[19:40] <trappist> ooh a troll!
[19:40] <poulicroque> xd
[19:40] <Kheops> Win32 best bussniess ever seen
[19:40] <Kheops> :)
[19:40] <crackhead100> Kheops: wow, great evangelist you are..
[19:40] <Kheops> that's why u aren't rich
[19:40] <Kheops> ;)
[19:40] <Kheops> i'm Dark Archon or Dark Angel
[19:40] <Kheops> :)
[19:41] <trappist> anyhoo...
[19:41] <crackhead100> trappist: yeah, what other advice
[19:41] <Kheops> brb i have to work now don't use linux for CHATING
[19:41] <Kheops> :)))
[19:41] <trappist> crackhead100: I just snooped my wife's process list to see what's running, but apparently the process is still called 'gaim' even if the app isn't
[19:42] <trappist> crackhead100: pidgin!
[19:42] <crackhead100> trappist: yeah.. gaim doesnt work as well.. pidgin.. i dont know.. i will have to check.. it seems not to be as space efficient on the desktop.. kopete is really customizable..
[19:42] <trappist> anyway she never seems to have any problems with it
[19:43] <crackhead100> trappist: i have thousands of contacts in mine.. so i need something better for a power user..
[19:43] <trappist> crackhead100: ah, I don't have the kind of chat experience to give you a recommendation there
[19:44] <crackhead100> trappist: what's a good channel on this server fo rme to check?
[19:44] <Megiddo> I can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact
[19:44] <trappist> crackhead100: I use bitlbee, which runs as an irc server and is an irc-to-instant-message gateway, so I do all my chatting in my irc client... over ssh, in a screen session, so I never disconnect, I just reattach
[19:44] <trappist> crackhead100: I dunno, most channels are product-specific
[19:45] <hellhound> genii: it responded "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[19:45] <crackhead100> trappist: that's interesting.. ill have to check it out.. that probably makes it a lot faster.. and more stable..
[19:46] <crackhead100> trappist: but then which irc client are you using? id need to have a really customizable irc client.. easy with keystrokes and lots of options..
[19:46] <trappist> crackhead100: yep.  not sure what challenges might be presented by thousands of buddies, though.  might work out just fine, or you may need to tweak your irc client
[19:46] <trappist> crackhead100: I use irssi, which is a console client, so *very* keystroke-friendly, and also very highly customizable
[19:47] <crackhead100> how can i check and see if my swap can be extended, btw?
[19:49] <genii> hellhound: OK. So it may then be some other issue causing slowdowns. Have you ran memtest on the ram in the box to make sure it passes?
[19:49] <trappist> crackhead100: how much ram do you have, how much swap, and are you running 32bit or 64bit
[19:49] <hellhound> genii: yes and it passed without any errors
[19:50] <trappist> crackhead100: basically if you're running 32bit, you can have a total of 4GB of addressable memory including swap (which should be more than enough unless something's gone so horribly wrong no amount of memory will save you) and if you're 64bit I'm not sure what the limit is but it's way more than you'll ever need
[19:50] <pulaski> Thanks trappist,  I have a little more to go on now.  cya
[19:50] <trappist> pulaski: enjoy :)
[19:50] <crackhead100> trappist: 32..
[19:51] <cdpuk> Hi all, anyone know what settings to use to get KVpnc to connect to a Win XP VPN server?
[19:51] <crackhead100> trappist: i have 2gb of real ram sticks.. and then not sure how much swap.. i could be at 4 already total..
[19:51] <genii> hellhound: Is it using the hard drive a lot?
[19:51] <Anoob> If you want some extra cash, just click this link and sign up http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=maconga   Just fill out the surveys and you get cash!
[19:52] <hellhound> genii: right now yes ( i am copying my backup of files to the harddrives now... but I notice no changes even when it is not copying and even after a fresh boot
[19:52] <trappist> crackhead100: probably no reason to add to that.  if you got into swap with that much ram, something was leaking badly and you wouldn't ended up in the same situation, just might've taken longer
[19:53] <crackhead100> trappist: ill update to ffbeta3 and see what happens
[19:53] <crackhead100> trappist: where do i get ffb3?
[19:54] <trappist> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
[19:54] <flipstar> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases
[19:55] <flipstar> mine is longer :P:P
[19:55] <crackhead100> trappist: if i see it in my adept, is that the smae? ff3? i shouldnt have to get it from their repo necessarily, right?
[19:55] <server_> hola soy nuevo con unbutu
[19:56] <trappist> crackhead100: if it's in adept and you're on gutsy, I have no idea because it's not in any official gutsy repos
[19:56] <server_> como puedo actualizar unbutu desde internet
[19:56] <trappist> crackhead100: if you were to upgrade to hardy, it's there by default
[19:56] <genii> hellhound: Perhaps put into pastebin: result of command dmesg              and contents of file /var/log/syslog   for scrutiny
[19:56] <trappist> !es | server_
[19:56] <ubotu> server_: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:56] <server_> tengo la version 6.10 a la ultima versión
[19:56] <trappist> crackhead100: but note, hardy's not released, and officially not stable, etc.
[19:56] <server_> gracias
[19:57] <crackhead100> trappist: im staying on gutsy for now.. it's some other repo.. dont know.. alexander sack.. seems to be a gutsy bakcport universe
[19:57] <trappist> crackhead100: apt-cache policy packagename should tell you more about the version
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> crackhead100: Running beta software is how you get into these problems in the first place.
[19:58] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: actually he got into this problem running firefox2 :)
[19:59] <crackhead100> jhutchins_wk: however if ff was the culprit leaking mem, and its beta is iknown to be better, shouldnt ..
[19:59] <trappist> crackhead100: yes :)
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> crackhead100: The thing about betas is that they're betas for a reason.
[19:59] <crackhead100> trappist: i just installed ff3.. however, it didnt load when i loaded the firefox now?? (i closed and reopened it..)
[20:00] <trappist> crackhead100: it's probably a new command line... I have no idea how it was packaged, but it's probably designed to not step on your ff2
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> cdpuk: kvpnc doesn't work well with pptp, you need to work with the pptp tools from the console.
[20:00] <trappist> crackhead100: try dpkg -L packagename | grep bin
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> crackhead100: Did you install it from an ubuntu package or from the mozilla installer?
[20:01] <cdpuk> jhutchins_wk: I seem to have got it working, it just wasn't nagging me to install pptp unless I reselected the profile, so I had no idea it wasn't installed - thanks anyway
[20:05] <hellhound> genii: ok my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60906/
[20:05] <genii> hellhound: Reading
[20:08] <Vermux> how do I create the icon that switch between languages?
[20:09] <crackhead100> trappist: ok, works.. we'll see how ff3 works now.. thanks for all the help
[20:09] <hellhound> genii: ok and my /var/log/syslog is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60907/
[20:10] <genii> hellhound: From the very last line of your dmesg it looks like it loses sync with your pointing device there
[20:11] <hellhound> genii: i have a logitech usb trackman wheel
[20:16] <genii> hellhound: Did you try the same device on another ubuntu box to see if the same issue occurs?
[20:16] <genii> hellhound: Reading second paste
[20:17] <freeze__> guten abend ich hab kürzlich kubuntu 7.10 installiert und versuche vergebens das mikro unter teamspeak funktionabel zu machen. installiert files sind alsa-oss alsa-source und alsa-utils
[20:18] <freeze__> höre tu ich alles
[20:18] <genii> hellhound: I'm thinking it's your pointing device now
[20:18] <freeze__> *n
[20:19] <freeze__> ich hab schon stunden vor googel verbracht ohne eine lösung zu finden
[20:19] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Whenever my computer boots up the networking service doesn't start automatically, even though System Settings says it starts a boot up.
[20:19] <trappist> !de | freeze__
[20:19] <trappist> hellooooo bot
[20:19] <freeze__> not a german channel?
[20:19] <Ertain> Every time I have to do "/etc/init.d/networking restart".
[20:19] <trappist> freeze__: this one is english - try #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de
[20:20] <freeze__> oh sorry
[20:20] <genii> freeze__: English questions here
[20:20] <freeze__> ok thanks
[20:20] <trappist> no problem :)
[20:21] <bogdanbiv> hello
[20:23] <hellhound> genii: hehehe you are right... i forgot i had on one of those usb to ps/2 adaptors on .. i took it off and plugged straight to usb and it works much better now... the only drag seems to be due to the massive file copying (78.2 gb from external USB harddrivbe to a RAID 5 array)
[20:23] <hellhound> genii: thank you... something so simple... that is the way it goes
[20:24] <genii> hellhound: Yup :) Glad to help
[20:25] <dthacker-work> Hi.  I'm getting the following error on boot "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[20:27] <dthacker-work> It reads grub, so the disk must be spinning.
[20:28] <genii> dthacker-work: You usually get that when it can't read/find the initrd. Did you shut down during an upgrade before it re-ran initramfs ?
[20:29] <dthacker-work> genii: I had a temp shutdown on laptop during an upgrade, yes.
[20:32] <genii> dthacker-work: OK. So the basic process here is to boot to livecd, then mount the old / and chroot there. Then to install in the chrooted environment some kernel image which is usable. It will rebuild the initrd
[20:33] <dthacker-work> genii: Ok, booting from a kubuntu gutsy livecd.  What option do I take at the first screen?
[20:33] <genii> work, afk
[20:35] <dustin_> hey
[20:38] <dthacker-work> Ok, I hit escape, went to text mode, got the boot: prompt.  Type in "rescue" and hit enter.  Got "could not find kernel image: rescue"
[20:39] <genii> back
[20:39] <genii> dthacker-work: Are you using a gui cd or the alternat or server cd?
[20:40] <dthacker-work> genii: I've only got GUI cd's handy
[20:41] <genii> dthacker-work: Good. Don't worry about going into rescue mode of the cd. Boot it up until you get the desktop.
[20:41] <dthacker-work> ok, booting.  BTW this is a kubuntu 7.10 LiveCD
[20:42] <Megiddo> Can anyone help me sync a WM6 device?
[20:42] <Megiddo> Nothing works
[20:42] <genii> dthacker-work: After it boots - make a directory to mount the old root under. Like: mkdir /mnt/tmp              Which partition was it on?
[20:43] <Kheops> hi hi
[20:43] <Kheops> i want to create an NTFS partition for my system
[20:43] <dthacker-work> genii: I'm not sure, It was a vanilla install so maybe /dev/sda1?
[20:44] <Kheops> how can i do this ?
[20:44] <dthacker-work> !ntfs
[20:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:44] <flipstar> Kheops: you probably need windows to create a windows partition
[20:45] <Vermux> how do I create the icon on the taskbar that switches between languages?
[20:46] <Kheops> lol
[20:46] <Kheops> :)
[20:46] <genii> dthacker-work: OK assuming sda1:sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp;sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/tmp/dev;sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/tmp/sys;sudo mount -t proc proc /mnt/tmp/proc    Then sudo chroot /mnt/tmp     You should be then able to install a viable kernel image for now
[20:46] <Kheops> i just format it..
[20:47] <Kheops> for linux..and i want to mount it as ntfs
[20:47] <genii> dthacker-work:  I forgot a slash before /proc, insert it
[20:47] <genii> Bah I'll just repost
[20:48] <genii> dthacker-work: Repost with slash in correct spot :) OK assuming sda1:sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp;sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/tmp/dev;sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/tmp/sys;sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/tmp/proc
[20:49] <dthacker-work> genii: ok working through your comands.
[20:49] <genii> dthacker-work: Then sudo chroot /mnt/tmp
[20:50] <Kheops> how can i make ntfs on kubuntu ?
[20:50] <SlimeyPete> !ntfs
[20:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:50] <Kheops> i read
[20:50] <Kheops> no info
[20:50] <SlimeyPete> oh, *make* ntfs? You want to create a new ntfs partition?
[20:50] <Kheops> YES
[20:50] <genii> dthacker-work: A safe kernel if you did a 32 bit install is:     linux-image-2.6.22-14-386
[20:51] <Kheops> so how can i do this
[20:51] <Kheops> ?
[20:51] <flipstar> isnt the generic to prefer ?
[20:51] <SlimeyPete> Aha. Right. Not sure if that's even possible yet.
[20:52] <Kheops> how can i make ntfs on kubuntu ????
[20:52] <flipstar> Kheops: you probably need windows to create a windows partition
[20:52] <Kheops> no
[20:52] <genii> dthacker-work: You can install by: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-386              or as flipstar suggests the generic one by: apt-get install linux-image
[20:52] <eegore> is there a way to correct page offset on a printer
[20:52] <Kheops> u don't say it correctly flipstar
[20:52] <Kheops> try again
[20:52] <flipstar> Kheops: if you know it, why you asking ?
[20:53] <genii> dthacker-work: Hopefully the files to build from are in the old /var/cache/apt/archives directory
[20:53] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: looks like you need to use mkfs.ntfs somehow. The manual is at: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkfs.ntfs
[20:53] <SlimeyPete> but I've never done it so can't give any further help
[20:53] <genii> dthacker-work: Did it give some message, or else working, etc?
[20:53] <Kheops> k
[20:53] <Kheops> :)))
[20:54] <Kheops> ok ok
[20:54] <Kheops> no need other programs
[20:54] <Kheops> to do that
[20:54] <Kheops> another ppl to help ?
[20:54] <dthacker-work> genii: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually type dpkg --configur -s to correct the problem.   Now following directions.....
[20:55] <genii> dthacker-work: It may be unable to complete that, since we did not copy over any networking info/setups before chroot. But hopefully it will use what it had previously
[20:55] <dthacker-work> genii: update-initramfs ran and generated /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[20:56] <genii> dthacker-work: gOOD. yOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REBOOT TO THE HARD DRIVE NOW
[20:56] <genii> Bah capslock
[20:56] <dthacker-work> genii: ok! fingers and toes crossed :)
[20:56] <Megiddo> If apt-get reports a break for trying to upgrade a package, what does it mean and how do I override it?
[20:56] <ccvp> Hello, in my computer I have an ATI Radeon 2400 HD, connecting to that is a vga connector, on the other end of that vga connector is 2 adapter connections for 2 monitors.............is there a way to have a extended monitor setup, using this, without having both monitors be a mirror image of each other?  so i can drag application windows into the monitor next to the existing monitor? etc....
[20:57] <genii> I'll be back, work requires me
[20:58] <flipstar> Megiddo: you could try to uninstall the conflicted package
[20:59] <flipstar> if it is not essential/you dont need it
[20:59] <Megiddo> "python-opensync: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 is to be installed"
[21:00] <Megiddo> How would I fix that?
[21:03] <dthacker-work> install libc6 2.7-1?
[21:05] <JasonWard> Hi. how do I install RealPlayer for linux? its not in kmenu-->Add/Remove programs and sudo apt-get install RealPlayer
[21:06] <_Angelus_> guys
[21:06] <_Angelus_> doesn't the new kubuntu has the restricted-driver-manager?
[21:06] <_Angelus_> :S
[21:06] <dthacker-work> !+1
[21:06] <genii> back
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <dthacker-work> genii: Thank You!  I am working again.
[21:06] <genii> dthacker-work: You're welcome
[21:06] <darkwizzard_> Hello guys, I updated the kernel and now I have no swap partition
[21:06] <darkwizzard_> what to do ?
[21:07] <JasonWard>  Hi. how do I install RealPlayer for linux? its not in kmenu-->Add/Remove programs and sudo apt-get install RealPlayer
[21:08] <dthacker-work> !repeat
[21:08] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:08] <dthacker-work> JasonWard: or you can wait for my search to finish......
[21:09] <JasonWard> dthacker ok
[21:09] <JasonWard> dthacker-work: ok
[21:09] <JasonWard> wrong person
[21:12] <bogdanbi> hello, I mounted a stick (fat32 formated) with a user and I want write access for another user. How can I allow that?
[21:12] <dthacker-work> JasonWard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587953
[21:13] <dthacker-work> JasonWard: also for your other package needs http://packages.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <dthacker-work> ubotu : !ntfs | dthacker-work
[21:14] <JasonWard> thanks
[21:14] <Megiddo> dthacker-work: How can I upgrade to libc6 2.7-1? It's not available through apt-get
[21:14] <jack__> during an upgrade from feisty the upgrader crashed, now apt-get is locked down.
[21:15] <peter> how can i install the flash-player for the konqueror?
[21:15] <dthacker-work> Megiddo: that was a guess based on the error message.  You may have found a packaging bug.  You can file a bug or ask a question at Launchpad and they may be able to sort it out
[21:15] <jack__> peter just apt-get it
[21:16] <dthacker-work> !apt-fix
[21:16] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:16] <delldimension> ?
[21:16] <peter> what is the name of the package?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> flashplugin-nonfree
[21:17] <jack__> thanks dthacker
[21:17] <delldimension> how do i get my webcam to work?
[21:17] <dthacker-work> jack__: np :)
[21:17] <delldimension> its fucked.
[21:17] <darkwizzard__> how do I get my swap partition back ? I upgraded the kernel.
[21:17] <jack__> Peter you should be able to find it by typing in flash
[21:17] <darkwizzard__> Any command to redetect them ?
[21:17] <dthacker-work> !language
[21:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:17] <CJS3141> I'm new to KDE, and just a quick simple question--how do  I change the digital clock in my panel to be on 12 hour time instead of 24 hour time?
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> CJS3141: in kde4?
[21:17] <delldimension> good question my clocks off also
[21:18] <CJS3141> nosrednaekim: yes
[21:18] <dthacker-work> !webcam
[21:18] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> CJS3141: there isn't a way AFAIK.
[21:18] <delldimension> thanks you
[21:18] <CJS3141> nosrednaekim: really? I have to use 24 hour time? That's crazy.
[21:19] <CJS3141> Why would KDE force you to use 24 hour time? Seems silly.
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> CJS3141: yeah...well, they are working on these things...
[21:19] <dthacker-work> CJS3141: could be a bug.  Have you filed one or checked the database?
[21:20] <dthacker-work> linux is all about the feedback......
[21:20] <CJS3141> dthacker-work: No, it seemed like it should be such a simple thing--I mean how many of you prefer 24 over 12 hour display?
[21:20] <darkwizzard__> how do I get my swap partition back ? I upgraded the kernel.
[21:21] <jimmy51_office> hello, i accidentally nuked my passwd file
[21:21] <jimmy51_office> can someone help me rebuild it?  i'm currently editing in nano but don't know what to do
[21:21] <JasonWard> dthacker-work: I looked at that but it's for feisty. I tried changing the name to gutsy but it didn't work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587953
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> darkwizzard__: add a swap partition entry to the /etc/fstab
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> !swap
[21:22] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: what file exactly
[21:22] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  /etc/passwd
[21:22] <darkwizzard__> but it need an uuid
[21:22] <dthacker-work> JasonWard: in that case there may not be package for Gutsy, and you'll have to do some Googling to find out why
[21:22] <darkwizzard__> it needs
[21:22] <JasonWard> ok
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: darkwizzard__it doesn'tneed a uuid, you can mount by partition number (/dev/hdax"
[21:24] <jack__> hey dthacker in my 3 or 4 years of using linux I have noticed that apt breaks quite often where one has to do the apt-fix, should those front ends make a button that will just run that script, & have the button appear any time that aptt breaks?
[21:24] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  i've got a line for root:  root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash   .... i just odn't know how to remake my user's line
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: thats fairly simple to rebuild.
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: you need the whole thing... letme pastebin it
[21:25] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  ok, so if my username was jimmy51, what would the line for it look like?  Kubuntu 7.10
[21:25] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  ok, thanks
[21:25] <jack__> Others can answer my question too
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: are you the only, and first user?
[21:30] <fuhreal> Does anyone know how to get rid of the animated "extra" button that shows up in the kicker when an app is launched?
[21:30] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  i'm the first, but if i see the syntax of the first i can figure out the second
[21:30] <jack__>  In my 3 or 4 years of using linux I have noticed that apt breaks quite often where one has to do the apt-fix, shouldn't those front ends make a button that will just run that script, & have the button appear any time that apt breaks?
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> fuhreal: kcontrol->launch feedback
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: ok
[21:31] <dthacker-work> jack__: patches welcome
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60922/
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> later users have UID of 1001, 1002, etc
[21:32] <fuhreal> nosrednaekim: ty ... any idea how to add commands to kde startup :)
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[21:32] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:32] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  wow, that's a lot more elaborate than i would have guessed!  thanks for posting that, i'll save it locally and start typing on my broke box.
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> ok
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: Its just copy paste from my install ;)
[21:33] <BusError> after finaly upgrading to heron, the X11 session is very jerky when used via synergy. it pauses for about 3 seconds every 10 seconds... doesn't happend with the local mouse/keybaord
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> !hardy
[21:34] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:34] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  it should match mine, if it's 7.10.  thanks for the help
[21:34] <fuhreal> nosrednaekim: so whatever shell scripts i put into ~/.kde/Autostart will run on boot ?
[21:34] <fuhreal> err run on kde loading rather ..
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> jimmy51_office: it shouldn't matter what version.... that would probably work with  linux from 1996
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> fuhreal: yes
[21:35] <fuhreal> cool
[21:35] <fuhreal> time to test it
[21:35] <fuhreal> ty
[21:35] <flipstar> nosrednaekim: are all these users essentially needed (in the file you pasted)
[21:35] <flipstar> +?
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: probably not
[21:42] <linuxguymarshall> Is there a way I can make a non-password protected account?
[21:42] <unix_infidel> !sources
[21:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[21:44] <jimmy51_office> nosrednaekim:  you. are. the. MAN.
[21:45] <flipstar> !helpersnack | nosrednaekim :)
[21:45] <ubotu> nosrednaekim :): Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:45] <linuxguymarshall> How can I mount an ISO image to extract the contents?
[21:46] <unix_infidel> !sources.list
[21:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> !ISO
[21:46] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:46] <flipstar> linuxguymarshall: mount -t iso9660 -o loop <iso> <mountpoint>
[21:46] <firecrotch> Does anyone know of any problems with the Hardy Beta-KDE4 image?
[21:47] <ahmos> hi,how i can upgrade to a newer kde
[21:47] <unix_infidel> is sourceomatic dead?
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> unix_infidel: ys
[21:48] <unix_infidel> nosrednaekim: alternatives?
[21:49] <jimmy51_office> ahmos: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[21:49] <phoenixz> Every time I do something with adept, an error comes by but all works ok though..  "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> unix_infidel: use the included adept application
[21:49] <ahmos> thank's
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> adept-> manage repositories
[21:49] <phoenixz> Anybody on what this might mean, and how I can fix this?
[21:51] <joshk> can someone with 7.10 tell me where kdm is in /etc/rc*.d?
[21:52] <ahmos>  is there an older version than kde4 nd newer than 3.5.8?
[21:52] <firecrotch> ahmos:  3.5.9
[21:52] <jussio1> ahmos: 3.5.9
[21:52] <joshk> c'mon.. this is easy .. :)
[21:52] <joshk> i just want the xx numbers like /etc/rc2.d/Sxxkdm
[21:53] <joshk> obviously, i don't have a kubuntu box in front of me..
[21:53] <ahmos> ok and how to install it?
[21:53] <kiki67100> Hey
[21:53] <kiki67100> !
[21:53] <joshk> or.. does kubuntu use gdm?
[21:55] <ahmos> sorry but how i can install the kde 3.5.9?
[21:56] <Ukonpoika> !upgrade | ahmos
[21:56] <ubotu> ahmos: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:56] <kiki67100> i'm with 'ARK'
[21:57] <kiki67100> i'm  with backtrack v2
[21:57] <kiki67100> do you can help me ?
[21:59] <kiki67100> ARK crash  , in command line  post me
[21:59] <kiki67100> ark (kdeutils): FATAL: libark could not found. Aborting.
[21:59] <kiki67100> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[21:59] <kiki67100> KCrash: Application 'ark' crashing...
[22:01] <francesco> !it
[22:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:03] <kiki67100> you don't speak english here ?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> !bug
[22:03] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> kiki67100: Did you install ark?  Sounds like part of it is missing.
[22:04] <flipstar> kiki67100: try reinstalling ark
[22:06] <kiki67100> ok
[22:06] <kiki67100> How reinstalling ARK with command line
[22:06] <flipstar> apt-get --reinstall install ark
[22:07] <kiki67100> with backtrack v2
[22:07] <kiki67100> apt-get nod found
[22:07] <kiki67100> no found
[22:08] <flipstar> hm youre using kubuntu?
[22:08] <kiki67100> using backtrack
[22:08] <flipstar> btw whats backtrack ?
[22:09] <kiki67100> Yes i'm use backtrack v2
[22:09] <algyz> apt-cache search ark
[22:09] <algyz> ark - graphical archiving tool for KDE
[22:09] <flipstar> if backtrack is an OS goto #<backtrack_support_channel>
[22:10] <kiki67100> apt-cache: command not found
[22:10] <Ukonpoika> kiki67100, what is your native language?
[22:10] <flipstar> kiki67100: this here is the kubuntu channel..not the backtrack channel
[22:11] <flipstar> kiki67100: we cant help you..go to #backtrack if it exists
[22:11] <kiki67100> my language is french
[22:11] <algyz> !fr
[22:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:12] <kiki67100> there is nobody
[22:12] <flipstar> he isnt using *ubuntu
[22:12] <flipstar> kiki67100: we dont support backtrack here.
[22:12] <jussio1> kiki67100: I suggest you try in #linux
[22:13] <kiki67100> Ok
[22:13] <kiki67100> i make suggesting
[22:14] <kiki67100> ty everybody
[22:15] <kiki67100> bye ...
[22:18] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to get rid of blurry fonts in KDE?
[22:20] <ahmos> hi there is a file in the kwin source directory i want to apply it with patch -p3,how i can do that?!
[22:21] <jussio1> vlt: systemsettings, appearance, fonts, use antialiasing
[22:21] <francesco> !it
[22:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:21] <vlt> jussio1: Thanks, I'll try.
[22:21] <enoj_> Any idea how I can get some better looking fonts? screenshot with anti aliasing on and force 96 dpi: http://skittent.net/~enoj/snapshot8.png
[22:22] <flipstar> ahmos: man patch
[22:23] <ahmos> i'm going to try
[22:23] <algyz> enoj_:  edit>preferences>content>fonts and colors
[22:23] <ahmos> hi flipstar how r u?:)
[22:24] <level1> Hi, I wrote a script that I think might make kde a little faster.  Is there anyone here who can help me test it?
[22:24] <enoj_> algyz: didn't mean firefox only
[22:24] <algyz> level1:  I think in #kde they will ;)
[22:24] <mwilliams> How do I make a profile without a password?
[22:25] <algyz> enoj_: almost everything you'll find in system settings :)
[22:25] <mwilliams> algyz:I have already tried looking there
[22:26] <algyz> mwilliams:  do you want automatic login?
[22:26] <level1> mwilliams: you could create a profile, and then run "sudo passwd <username>" and set the password as nothing
[22:26] <vlt> jussio1: Aah, better! Why isn't that default?
[22:26] <mwilliams> algyz:No, just a limited account where there is no login password
[22:26] <level1> mwilliams: autologin is pretty nice btw
[22:27] <phoenixz>  Every time I do something with adept, an error comes by but all works ok though..  "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"
[22:27] <phoenixz> Anybody on what this might mean, and how I can fix this?
[22:27] <jussio1> vlt: great, and no idea
[22:27] <mwilliams> level1:I have multiple users, I just need a guest profile
[22:28] <level1> phoenixz: that reminds me a great C++ error: "ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'operator' with no type"
[22:28] <algyz> enoj_:  in kde 3.5.8 fonts are system settings>look&feel>appearance
[22:29] <level1> algyz: #kde didn't like it
[22:29] <level1> haha
[22:29] <algyz> crazy boys :)
[22:32] <ahmos> flipstar sorr but i want to do this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60926/
[22:34] <flipstar> ahmos: okay..
[22:35] <ahmos> :)
[22:36] <flipstar> you have problems with that ?
[22:36] <ahmos> i don't know how to make that..it is supposed to fix a xorg bug
[22:37] <flipstar> did you read the describtion at the end of the text ?
[22:38] <ahmos> yes
[22:39] <ahmos> i'm some how new to linux.. and you used to help me every time ;)
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: eventually you'll hae to learn to do things yourself
[22:40] <ahmos> but i'm trying
[22:42] <ahmos> this is the first time to try to fix a bug :(
[22:44] <ahmos> and i'm totally confused like usual...since i started to use linux :(
[22:44] <Bizzeh> hey, is the boot sequence in ubuntu and kubuntu the same?
[22:44] <flipstar> ahmos: you have a good describtion there
[22:45] <ahmos> :)
[22:46] <flipstar> Bizzeh: basicly yes i guess but they got different services
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: excluding the starting of kdm
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> yes
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: woah... what bug are you trying to fix?
[22:47] <ahmos> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143255
[22:47] <Bizzeh> so, the grub entry would be the same right?
[22:47] <ahmos> is the link ok or want me to explain
[22:47] <Bizzeh> with the change of "title"
[22:47] <flipstar> Bizzeh: yes
[22:48] <flipstar> title is optional :)
[22:48] <Bizzeh> ok, so can someone in here answer me this then since nobody seems to want to answer me in #ubuntu, is this correct for booting ubuntu http://rafb.net/p/QQgEqQ79.html ?
[22:49] <flipstar> ahmos: this bug/patch is for kde3.5.6 .. you probably using (with gutsy) version 3.5.8
[22:50] <ahmos> oops
[22:50] <flipstar> Bizzeh: lol what they doing in #ubuntu ? :)
[22:50] <Bizzeh> flipstar: pretty much ignoring me, and i think someone just started a linux vs windows war
[22:51] <flipstar> ohoh
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> lookin Bizzeh
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: actually, even the title is the same with kbuntu
[22:51] <leo_rockw> greetings
[22:52] <Bizzeh> my ubuntu install is as follows, i have a 250gb hdd, 210gb for windows + other crap, then 50mb ubuntu /boot, 500mb ubuntu swap, rest for ubuntu /
[22:52] <ahmos> but i have that problem...when i leave my computer turned on through the night with out using it ,i wake up with the system hanging..mouse pointer moving but no respond for commands, so i have to make hard restart
[22:52] <Bizzeh> /boot is ext2, and / is ext3
[22:53] <flipstar> Bizzeh: which file is this paste from ?
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: whats with the mapper stuff? do you have RAID?
[22:53] <flipstar> yes the mapper stuff is raid
[22:54] <flipstar> ahmos: this doesnt happen without superkaramba ?
[22:54] <Bizzeh> menu.lst in vista (i installed grub via vista, since i already had a setup to do that, and i added in the c+p i got from a ubuntu wiki and modded it a bit)
[22:54] <Bizzeh> no, no raid, just 3 sata drives and 2 usb drives
[22:54] <ahmos> and is there a solution?
[22:55] <leo_rockw> ahmos: can you repeat your problem please? i just entered the channel
[22:55] <flipstar> Bizzeh: hard disc are normally not laying in /dev/mapper around.. oO
[22:55] <ahmos> when i leave my computer turned on through the night with out using it ,i wake up with the system hanging..mouse pointer moving but no respond for commands, so i have to make hard restart
[22:55] <leo_rockw> ahmos: you may want to try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Raising_Elephants
[22:56] <Bizzeh> so, change root=/dev... to root=/dev/sda4 ?
[22:56] <leo_rockw> ahmos: and then dmesg tail
[22:56] <leo_rockw> ahmos: that might shed some light
[22:56] <flipstar> Bizzeh: you using *ubuntu right now ?
[22:56] <ahmos> i'm going to try
[22:56] <leo_rockw> ahmos: if you manage to return to terminal, that is
[22:56] <Bizzeh> flipstar: no, im sat in vista right now
[22:57] <algyz> ahmos:  first try restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:57] <Bizzeh> but my menu.lst is in my c:\ drive
[22:58] <ahmos> yes some times it works and the others not...as long as i leave the computer alt ctrl backspace don't work
[22:58] <flipstar> Bizzeh: then check if this also refers to /dev/mapper ..
[22:59] <leo_rockw> ahmos: usually the alt+sysrq method works even if ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: http://rafb.net/p/L1EHeY94.html this is the correct entry
[23:00] <ahmos> i got it...but you know there still a pressure on the cpu until for example i wake up and press these keys.no?
[23:00] <Bizzeh> isnt the uuid, universaly unique?
[23:00] <Bizzeh> wont i have a different uuid to you?
[23:01] <flipstar> it is..
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: ah..good catch.... sorry :)
[23:01] <flipstar> the root probably also differs ..
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: yeah..change that to /dev/sda4
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: I changed that ;)
[23:01] <slschris> #hellug
[23:01] <leo_rockw> ahmos: depends on what the problem is
[23:03] <Bizzeh> brb
[23:03] <ahmos> most forums tills that this is a super karamba problem so i'm going to disable it
[23:04] <ahmos> bye bye superkaramba
[23:04] <ahmos> and i will see if the problem disappeard
[23:07] <linuxguymarshall> Are there any dock programs avalible in adept?
[23:07] <flipstar> kooldock for e.g.
[23:07] <linuxguymarshall> that is in adept?
[23:08] <flipstar> btw how do i unzip an 7-zip archive in terminal ?
[23:08] <Bizzeh> that was it, ubuntu loads fine now
[23:08] <Bizzeh> thanks guys
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: awesome :)
[23:09] <flipstar> linuxguymarshall: yes it is in the universe repos
[23:10] <linuxguymarshall> flipstar:Thank you
[23:10] <Bizzeh> that was my biggest problem, second problem is, max res i can manage on this install is 1400x1050, yet my gfx card and monitor have a native res of 1680x1050, why cant i get the full 1680?
[23:10] <ahmos> I love linux community , congratulations Bizzeh
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: what graphics card
[23:12] <Bizzeh> ati HD3870xt
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: oo, is that one of those new ones (made in the last year)?
[23:14] <Unit193> how do i unzip 7z in ark?
[23:15] <Bizzeh> nosrednaekim: came out in january i think
[23:15] <Unit193> it does not seem to work by default.
[23:15] <flipstar> Unit193: right click on the file then extract
[23:15] <Unit193> does not work...
[23:15] <Bizzeh> ill try the drivers package from the ati site, see if this works
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> Bizzeh: yeah, you need them
[23:16] <flipstar> Unit193: whats the error ?
[23:16] <Unit193> i would have to be in linux..in win :( now
[23:17] <flipstar> thats a wired error message @_@
[23:17] <Unit193> well....
[23:18] <Unit193> missing package i think but when i look for it i can't find it...
[23:18] <Bizzeh> right, installed, brb
[23:22] <flipstar> Unit193: ark can extract 7z files per default ..
[23:22] <flipstar> 7-zip is opensource ..
[23:22] <Unit193> right...
[23:23] <flipstar> there must been an error with the package..
[23:23] <flipstar> is there an error message while trying to extract ?
[23:23] <Unit193> can't even open
[23:24] <icewaterman> anyone using sane? my scanner works only as root, seems a permission issue, but i havent found any udev rules that would change the permissions for the scanner
[23:24] <icewaterman> i am using hardy btw.
[23:24] <flipstar> Unit193: then its probably an access/permission problem
[23:25] <flipstar> icewaterman: youre in the scanner group ? (btw go to #ubuntu+1 )
[23:25] <icewaterman> flipstar: k
[23:25] <Unit193> i'll try to change it...
[23:25] <icewaterman> flipstar: but i am in scanner group, just there seems to be no rule that would account for my scannr
[23:27] <Unit193> flipstar: i have feisty
[23:28] <flipstar> Unit193: type "kdesu konqueror" then navigate to the file right click>change permissions ¦ |
[23:30] <ahmos> will kde 3.5.9 has the same problem to me ?
[23:31] <markperry> i just added the virtualbox source to my sources.list file, however I cannot find the gpg key on their website...can anyone point me to it?
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> markperry: you don't really need it
[23:33] <ahmos> what kde you use nosrednaekim
[23:34] <markperry> just tired of the error message everytime I run apt-get update upgrade
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: 4.09
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> *4.0.2
[23:35] <flipstar> oO
[23:36] <flipstar> thats more realistic :)
[23:36] <ahmos> ohh
[23:37] <ahmos> i'm afraid that when i upgrade,i mess up my oss ..:)
[23:38] <ahmos> like i usually do :D
[23:38] <flipstar> you cant actually upgrade to kde4..just install it beside
[23:39] <Apple_Cat_> Hi i think I'm having a problem with dns, though I don't know why, or how. If I try nslookup on myself it returns ** server can't find <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN
[23:39] <ahmos> does it have alot of problems
[23:39] <flipstar> no major problems i would say
[23:41] <ahmos> sorry for being silly ..but what is the diffrrence between gusty and hardy than kde
[23:41] <flipstar> see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta#head-e55186d5d312cfd6b8d74a407dbef271a1edfc46 for that
[23:42] <blizzzek-kde4> how can i refresh the classes-tree in kdevelop? it shows old/wrong functions; autocompletion is working correctly though
[23:42] <Apple_Cat_> ahmos, #kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to ask
[23:42] <p-f> I want to create a file of exactly one gigabyte with random data in it, what would be the quickest/simplest way?
[23:43] <ahmos> do you advice me to install the beta version or to wait for the stable version?!!
[23:44] <p-f> dd, nevermind
[23:44] <flipstar> kde4 does not mean hardy and hardy does not mean kde4
[23:44] <Apple_Cat_> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/58658-command-generate-large-dummy-files.html
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: wait for stable
[23:44] <flipstar> ahmos: you also can use kde4 in gutsy
[23:45] <markperry> can anyone point me to the gpg key for virtualbox?
[23:45] <ahmos> it is not a kde 4 problem but i need more stable version of the system
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> markperry: once you install virtualbox, commend out the repository...
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> markperry: or you can ask in #vbox
[23:46] <ahmos> in the same way i want to learn everything in linux but it seems too hard..
[23:46] <markperry> I asked in #vbox...they sent me here...lol
[23:47] <Dr_willis_> ahmos,  too hard? i find most of it rather straight forward. :)
[23:47] <Dr_willis_> learn the linux fundamentals and you cant go wrong.
[23:47] <Dr_willis_> just rember to pay attention to the details.
[23:47] <Unit193> i also can't get nmap to work with dial-up help?
[23:47] <ahmos> yes but i want to be like you all :D not just a normal user.. :D
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> read, read ,read, read,,, and did i mention read?
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> :)
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> then when needed, to back to what you read. when you need it..
[23:48] <ahmos> yes and may i mention your help, no? :)
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> Linux has gotten to be the most documented OS i know of. :)
[23:48] <Dr_willis_> of course some times the docs can be a little out of date in some places.. but the fundamenals havent changed much.
[23:49] <Apple_Cat_> again, maybe #kubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to talk
[23:49] <Unit193> me?
[23:49] <Dr_willis_> i missed the original question. :) i just joined.
[23:49] <Dr_willis_> nmap should work with dialup Unit193  - whats the specific problem>?
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> not work very fast... :) but it should work
[23:50] <Unit193> it says it...
[23:50] <jnk> hi everyone, I'm sure support questions drive you crazy, but I'm not finding an answer elsewhere, trying to upgrade kunbuntu alpha 6 to beta 8.04, I follow the instructions on the site, launch kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel", choose version upgrade, follow though, click "finish" at which point it's supposed to launch the upgrade manager, but it doesn't and I can't figure out why or how to just launch it manually instead
[23:50] <Unit193> well it's looking for DSL
[23:51] <Dr_willis_> jnk,  try just a 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> jnk: since you are already using hardy, no need for a dist-upgrade
[23:52] <jnk> hmm
[23:53] <jnk> Dr_willis_: I've done those commands, they seem to execute ok, but it's not exactly a dist upgrade
[23:53] <jnk> nosrednaekim: ok, that makes sense, how does one upgrade from alpha6 to beta then?
[23:53] <ere4si> where can I set the system to shut down when I press the power button - can't find it anywhere?
[23:53] <Dr_willis_> jnk,  the normal update/upgrade does the alpha-> beta
[23:54] <ahmos> goodbye flipstar,nosrednaekim and Dr_willis_ thank you all for giving me your time,meet you later
[23:54] <jnk> well, it told me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. when I ran those apt commands
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> jnk,  sounds to me like its all up to date.
[23:55] <arcticpenguin380> !kde4
[23:55] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:57] <flipstar> jnk: check sources.list /run update-manager
[23:57] <jnk> Dr_willis_: strange
[23:59] <Dr_willis_> jnk,  what makes you think its NOT up to date?
[23:59]  * Dr_willis_ just realized he wasent in #ubuntu+1 , well he is.. but not here. :)


[00:06]  * Obsidian1723 work is done, time for fun, cya later.
[00:43] <h00k> exigraff: ...
[01:24] <_diablo> lol