 Welcome @OE9SBV
 Hello! :)
 Not sure if this chat is the right place to ask, but I am facing problems when using Qt with OpenGL ES on Debian
 It's related to packaging, so Ubuntu is probably no different
 (Photo, 810x1020) https://i.imgur.com/FoZExRS.jpg
 I was launching Plasma Mobile on an x86 device, when I encountered this:
 https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/qt/qtbase/blob/master/debian/rules#L28
 Turns out OpenGL ES support is disabled in non-ARM platforms in packaging
 Do you think it is possible to enable it?
[21:54] <wxl> you should as the debian maintainers
 But they disabled it
[21:56] <wxl> but if your problem is with debian, then you need to discuss it with them
 Ok, I'll try to find a related discussion chat. What I wanted to ask if enabling it is possible in theory, from the packaging perspective
[21:57] <wxl> well, everything's possible
 Cool
 I used Ubuntu initially, but had to move to Debian as x86 support is dropped here :c
 @ilyaishere What wxl doesn't note is that @mitya57 is here from Debian 😉
 And what do you mean about dropping x86 support?
 @tsimonq2, Wow, cool! He actually authored this file
 @tsimonq2, If I remember correctly, x86 is no longer supported in new Ubuntu releases
 "And building Qt manually is no fun..."  😮
 @acheronuk, Is it?


[03:10] <hallyn> hm, i'm going to have to do some spelunking, but boot is really really slow now with eoan...  like spinning rust slow.  was 5s, must now be like 35s.
[03:11] <hallyn> gonna blame lvm for now, might be that same pvscan bug smoser found in redhat...
[03:20] <tsimonq2> hallyn: Can you repro with a fresh install?
[03:20] <hallyn> this was a fresh install
[03:21] <tsimonq2> Hmm.
[03:21] <hallyn> where previous was 18.04 (lubuntu) on a smaller m.2 ssd
[03:21] <tsimonq2> $ sudo systemd-analyze
[03:21] <tsimonq2> Try that.
[03:21] <hallyn> Startup finished in 1min 13.095s (kernel) + 5.472s (userspace) = 1min 18.567s
[03:22] <hallyn> graphical.target reached after 5.465s in userspace
[03:22] <hallyn> mind you with the other disk i never bothere dlooking into ... luks was taking a long time to get going.  or maybe it's uefi.  what do i know, you kids with your flash disks andf lash mobs and uefi and idunno
[03:23] <tsimonq2> O_o
[03:23] <hallyn> :)  sorry, i'll dig deeper and figure out where it's hanging
[03:23] <hallyn> the weird thing was journalctl -ab seems to not show the hanging,
[03:23] <hallyn> all i see on the screen is msgs about nto finding ubuntu_vg
[03:24] <hallyn> on next boot i have the quiet gorp taken out of grub.cfg, so maybe i'l llearn more
[03:26] <tsimonq2> Interesting.
[03:26] <tsimonq2> hallyn: I don't know if I can provide much more advice, but please do tell me what the problem ends up being.
[03:26] <tsimonq2> Maybe it's worth fixing in the archive. :)
[03:27] <hallyn> tsimonq2: yeah, i'd open a bug but don't even know where to file it yet :)  will probably not touch a computer all weekend, but will dig on monday
[04:32] <tsimonq2> ok :)


[12:45] <kwwii> night all
[02:33] <lapo> hi
[04:18] <lapo> kwwii: ping
[04:18] <kwwii> lapo: pong
[04:19] <lapo> kwwii: since I like what we have in gnome icon theme more then what we have in tango I'd like to drop tango inheritance from tangerine, what do you think?
[04:20] <kwwii> lapo: we could look into that...as it is your theme I guess you can do what you want with it in the end ;-)
[04:21] <lapo> it's inherited by human icon theme, so things get tricky, you know
[04:21] <andreasn> what about the tango-common package then?
[04:21] <lapo> tango-common needs to die
[04:22] <andreasn> guess there is mostly just crap in that package anyway
[04:22] <andreasn> yeah
[04:22] <lapo> is it needed nowdays?
[04:22] <lapo> we have lot of tango icons upstream now
[04:22] <lapo> I can move the remaining stuff to tangerine
[04:22] <andreasn> I only run g-i-t here, so I don't keep track of what's in tango-common and not
[04:22] <andreasn> fixing stuff upstream mostly
[04:23] <lapo> what do you think andreasn?
[04:24] <lapo> 'bout getting rid of tango ihneritance
[04:24] <andreasn> g-i-t is neater than t-i-t these days
[04:26] <lapo> tango has better icons here and there like the media icons, I can move the better stuff in tangerine eventually
[04:27] <lapo> but in general now g-i-t has saner metaphors and is currently maintained, while t-i-t is kinda abandoned
[04:28] <lapo> kwwii: think about it, ask the sabdfl eventually and let me know
[04:29] <kwwii> lapo: I'll do that
[04:30] <lapo> kwwii: you can quickly test it removing the inheritance in index.theme, there are a pair of icons to be redone but the rest works nicelly
[04:30] <kwwii> lapo: yeah, I was thinking of doing just that ;-)
[04:31] <kwwii> then making some screenshots and discussing them with sabdfl and others
[04:32] <lapo> for human it doesn't change much, it pretty much override almost every icon in tangerine, so it shouldn't be a big problem
[04:32] <andreasn> gutsy will ship with gtk+ 2.12, right?
[04:32] <lapo> andreasn: yeah, gtk stock in already! :-)
[04:32] <andreasn> neat
[04:37] <kwwii> I am off to the bike store...bbl
[05:54] <agentk> hi