[02:19] <Krank> Using the Flight 5 LiveCD I was never able to get to the desktop. I always got a series of these: hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[02:19] <Krank> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 314976. Any idea what this means?
[02:19] <Fujitsu> Krank, a dud CD.
[02:19] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, I downloaded http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[02:19] <rixth> I want to take the install CD to school and boot it. My idjit IT teacher will throw a tantrum.
[02:19] <Sampizcat> monk_:  were you able to use it with previous ubuntu versions?
[02:19] <shriphani> guys the upgrade is 579 Mb
[02:19] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: that's the live+install
[02:19] <Fujitsu> rixth, take a Desktop CD :)
[02:19] <grimboy> Krank, Download another then check the checksum
[02:19] <Fujitsu> shriphani, not necessarily.
[02:19] <shriphani> but it is too big a download for me
[02:20] <Sampizcat> monk_:  what laptop do you have? model?
[02:20] <Krank> Ah. Just make sure the MD5's match on the burn
[02:20] <Fujitsu> shriphani, wait for CDs, then.
[02:20] <rixth> Fujitsu: that's what I have =) I wouldn't actually install it of course.
[02:20] <monk_> Sampizcat, it had the same problem on 5.10 too
[02:20] <rambo3> Krank, use latest cd. i hade same problems on reboot and shutdown
[02:20] <Fujitsu> rixth, why not?
[02:20] <shriphani> so can i upgrade from the cd ?
[02:20] <monk_> Sampizcat, it is a Acer TravelMate 2354LCi
[02:20] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:    "Check CD for defects"?
[02:20] <capitanplaneta> ubuntu dvd is just the install cd + live cd on one disk?
[02:20] <livingdaylight> if Dapper was a football team it would win the World Cup
[02:20] <Fujitsu> I wouldn't mind if students at the school where I am an admin installed it :P
[02:20] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, you don't say...
[02:20] <capitanplaneta> or does it contain extra stuff?
[02:20] <spikeb> capitanplaneta, and it has both amd64 and x86 i think
[02:20] <rixth> Fujitsu: I'd probably get suspended. They have this weird domain system going on too so I woukdn't be able to get online
[02:20] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, Sorry?
[02:20] <livingdaylight> if Dapper was a rock band it would ROCK
[02:20] <shriphani> Fujitsu, can i upgrade from the dapper cd
[02:20] <eXistenZ> apokryphos, are they the same?
[02:20] <alleyoopster> Can anyone tell me if there has been updates between RC and final? I am was running RC and have not seen updates yet?
[02:21] <capitanplaneta> ok then the cd is enough for me
[02:21] <Fujitsu> shriphani, hmm.
[02:21] <Fujitsu> Actually.
[02:21] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  Is that the option I should use ?
[02:21] <Krank> Cool. Bit of a noob, but is dual-booting handled well?
[02:21] <Fujitsu> This is a significant issue...
[02:21] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; man where is the poetry in ode to Dapper?
[02:21] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  to check md5? or something else?
[02:21] <grimboy> Krank, Yes.
[02:21] <apokryphos> eXistenZ: /msg ubotu desktop ; /msg ubotu alternate
[02:21] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, yeah, that will do the same as an md5
[02:21] <robinl1> Seveas: What was wrong with the test CD's, then?
[02:21] <Seveas> robinl1, various issues
[02:21] <livingdaylight> GUYS! is there a poetry corner in ode to Dapper?
[02:21] <shriphani> because update manager says 518 MB but i have a download limit
[02:21] <Fujitsu> How are people going to upgrade if they haven't got the capacity to download things?
[02:21] <robinl1> For example?
[02:21] <Fujitsu> As you can't upgrade from the Desktop CD, and that's all that's being shipped...
[02:22] <Dreamglider> 44minutes to go
[02:22] <shriphani> awwwwww
[02:22] <shriphani> sheesh
[02:22] <Krank> Any reason to go with the amd64 release over the i386?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: I agree, it's an issue
[02:22] <rixth> Krank: if you have an amd64 platform?
[02:22] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, I'd say that it was a huge issue!
[02:22] <rixth> Krank: no Flash or Java though
[02:22] <shriphani> so an upgrade is not possible from the cd ?
[02:22] <scheuri> Krank: if you want 64bit sofware on a 64bit processor
[02:22] <defunkt> krank: if you don't have the correct platform, it won't work.
[02:22] <Fujitsu> Seveas, what do you think>?
[02:22] <apokryphos> shriphani: from the altnernate CD it is, yes.
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: especially forpeople in countries without much broadband access
[02:22] <shriphani> alternate cd ?
[02:22] <Frogzoo> omgawd - 70k with only 2 seeds on the DVD torrent :D
[02:22] <defunkt> the dapper install is so sexy <3
[02:22] <shriphani> tell me apokryphos
[02:23] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, this is certainly going to be a large issue.
[02:23] <robinl1> Seveas: what issues?
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: tell you what?
[02:23] <Krank> I've got it, presuming it works with ULI 1695 board
[02:23] <shriphani> about the alternate cd apokryphos
[02:23] <fredrich1> mm...400k/s
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: /msg ubotu alternate
[02:23] <ukh> rixth: no flash, but java is there
[02:23] <Fujitsu> If it's an AMD Athlon 64, it'll work, Krank.
[02:23] <Adam-> Alex takes big cock up his ass!
[02:23] <apokryphos> shriphani: you can get it from /topic
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> HEya
[02:23] <grimboy> The new rhythmbox is teh suck
[02:23] <shriphani> ok
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> oops, sorry
[02:23] <goteki> anyone knows how I can enable widescreen support in ubuntu?
[02:23] <Krank> Cool
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: Personally I think shipit should have a choice of CDs
[02:23] <defunkt> howdy
[02:23] <Sampizcat> wheelswitch:  crumbs, the CD is valid :P
[02:23] <shriphani> so i can do it with the text installer ?
[02:23] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, it'd need to...
[02:23] <Tinned_Tuna> how do I perform an upgrade through apt?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> shriphani, that's how you /have/ to do it.
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: i.e. you can order alternate instead of desktop...
[02:24] <rixth> Oh! New Rhythmbox, awesome. The best feature they ever added was built in Last.fm support. And the Queued Songs sidebar was cool too.
[02:24] <apokryphos> ack, wrong person
[02:24] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, weird.
[02:24] <shriphani> ok Fujitsu is it being shipped ?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> Tinned_Tuna, modify your sources.list, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:24] <apokryphos> hm, left
[02:24] <Fujitsu> shriphani, not at the moment.
[02:24] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm ok
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: I have a feeling this will come up on the mailing lists in the next few days
[02:24] <Fujitsu> However, this issue needs to be brought up with somebody important.
[02:24] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, it'd better.
[02:24] <rixth> !info rhythmbox
[02:24] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[02:24] <alleyoopster> goteki: check system, preferences, screen resolution. See if the resolution you want is listed there first
[02:25] <wheelswitch> Sampizcat, im out of ideas, im pretty new to this too, but i had a similar problem with 5.10 and that was the issue.
[02:25] <rixth> Hmm, it needs to default to dapper now.
[02:25] <rixth> !info rhythmbox dapper
[02:25] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu9 (dapper), Packaged size: 1759 kB, Installed size: 6332 kB
[02:25] <Sampizcat> ah crumbs. Thanks anyway wheelswitch , Fujitsu , will go to bed an d try tomorrow
[02:25] <Tinned_Tuna> I just change all instances of the the word breezy to dapper?
[02:25] <Sampizcat> Later all!
[02:25] <fredrich1> wow..the ubuntuforums.org is really slowing to a crawl
[02:25] <rixth> Install complete! See you guys soon.
[02:25] <scheuri> Tinned_Tuna: yes
[02:25] <Fujitsu> Bye, rixth.
[02:25] <goteki> alleyopster it's not, highest resolution is 1024x768... I need 1680x1050... using amd64 release, nvidia 6600 gt, nforce 4
[02:25] <robinl1> i'm downloading the final iso
[02:25] <Tinned_Tuna> cool
[02:25] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, is that a surprise?
[02:25] <Grunt> only another 48 mins to go
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> DAPPER!
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> GOOGOGOGO
[02:25] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:26] <wheelswitch> why use forums when there is IRC
[02:26] <Fujitsu> goteki, what graphics card?
[02:26] <robinl1> go Bit-CORU!
[02:26] <robinl1> you're the best xD
[02:26] <Bit-CORU> xD
[02:26] <scheuri> wheelswitch: exactly....*rolleseyes"
[02:26] <shriphani> cant i terminate the download
[02:26] <wheelswitch> robinl1,  thanks for the update
[02:26] <goteki> fujitsu: 6600gt
[02:26] <robinl1> whaddaya mean?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> goteki, aha...
[02:26] <fredrich1> Fujitsu, yes and no...ive seen game forum servers go down from releases, but it's the first time i've seen a linux distro forum almost go down from the load
[02:26] <Fujitsu> I don't have Nvidia experience.
[02:26] <shriphani> or carry out the download after a few boots ?
[02:26] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, Ubuntu forums are very good...
[02:27] <goteki> hmm
[02:27] <shriphani> man this has left me depressed
[02:27] <Fujitsu> *not very good.
[02:27] <livingdaylight> i can feel the Ubuntu-mexian wave coming on!
[02:27] <fredrich1> Fujitsu, what i mean is, that the rush and the pressure is more than a linux distro upgrade usually garners
[02:27] <sybariten> can someone make an educated guess on when the forums will be back to a normal state?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> fredrich1, yes. This /is/ Dapper.
[02:27] <sybariten> or is this all due to overpopulation only
[02:27] <Fujitsu> sybariten, once everybody gives up...
[02:27] <Spaceraver> a fujitus siemens amilo model m52174 should run ubuntu good right??
[02:27] <Verithrax> Too many 'omg lols dapper is the roxx0r posts'?
[02:27] <Fujitsu> sybariten, probably just overpopulation.
[02:27] <thoreauputic> sybariten: the latter I think
[02:28] <noodle> how do i reclaim my firefox icon.. was about to read the forum post before it died :(
[02:28] <Whoopie> Hi, I have a question regarding package patches: what are these relibtoolize patches for?
[02:28] <Fujitsu> Spaceraver, thanks for not pinging me :) Typos can be useful some times...
[02:28] <bliss_> hi
[02:28] <wheelswitch> noodle, just use easyubuntu
[02:28] <Fujitsu> And yes, Spaceraver, it should run fine.
[02:28] <fiendskull9> hey
[02:28] <shriphani> ok guys any ideas when the alternate cd is coming out
[02:28] <fiendskull9> whats the command to update from breezy to dap.?
[02:28] <alleyoopster> goteki: most likely you will need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, this will reconfigure the screen. Be sure to back up xorg.conf first
[02:28] <grimboy> !tell noodle about easyubuntu
[02:28] <Fujitsu> shriphani, it was released over 3 hours ago.
[02:28] <Fujitsu> fiendskull9, read the topic.
[02:28] <Frogzoo> !tell shriphani about torrent
[02:28] <noodle> ok thx
[02:28] <monk_> !twinview
[02:28] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, monk_
[02:29] <thoreauputic> !tell fiendskull9 about upgrade
[02:29] <robinl1>       	 		 vBulletin Message 		 	     	 	 		 	 				 			 			 			 			We'll be right back.
[02:29] <bliss_> whats the command line to upgrade from 5-10 server with fluxbox to 6.06 server with fluxbox?
[02:29] <thoreauputic> bliss_: erm, your fluxbox will be upgraded automatically
[02:29] <thoreauputic> bliss_: unless you compiled it or something
[02:30] <wheelswitch> i rekon xirc tab completion should be related to who posted last.
[02:30] <SunTzuTech> bliss_: fix /etc/apt/sources.list to get the dapper upgrade, then do an apt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:30] <wheelswitch> *xchat even
[02:30] <Grunt> well seeing as there's no parties in birmingham I think i will have to go down to the pub and drunk with my friends under the guise of ubuntu launch party ;-)
[02:30] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, file a wishlist bug :)
[02:30] <Verithrax> I... LOVE... THIS... COMMUNITY.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> *sigh* the feeding frenzy is getting to me...
[02:30] <wycats> Is there a way to get boot-admin back into ubuntu?
[02:30] <Tinned_Tuna> hehe :)
[02:31] <Fujitsu> wycats, install it?
[02:31] <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, you deserve it :)
[02:31] <wycats> It's part of Gnome System Tools
[02:31] <wycats> was taken out by Ubuntu
[02:31] <Frogzoo> feed me - sooooo hungry
[02:31] <wycats> even though they provide GST
[02:31] <Fujitsu> wycats, what did it do?
[02:31] <wycats> allowed visual editing of Grub
[02:31] <livingdaylight> Tinned_Tuna; is your real name Tina Dapper Turner?
[02:31] <wycats> Grub bootloaders that is
[02:31] <bliss_> SunTzuTech: thanks what fix do i need in etc/aptsources list please?
[02:31] <dbglt> can anyone assist me in install the ati binary driver? I've followed the instructions and it will not work... I'm currently using dapper
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> lol
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> :)
[02:31] <Tinned_Tuna> not quite :)
[02:32] <siccness> dbglt, kind of.
[02:32] <Fujitsu> !doesn't work
[02:32] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:32] <bliss_> thoreauputic; thanks for support
[02:32] <dbglt> fglrxinfo still shows that I am using Mesa, even though I have followed all the steps prescribed
[02:32] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: sudo sed -i s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <siccness> Oh, maybe not then.
[02:32] <thoreauputic> bliss_: you're welcome :)
[02:32] <Reg|ster> some one have the wiki link how to install alott of programs to ubuntu?  java xmms etc
[02:32] <Hmmmm> hooraah! azureus is ripping dapper
[02:32] <Tinned_Tuna> ripping?
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !tell Hmmmm about torrent
[02:33] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Reg|ster about java
[02:33] <cef> anyone else grabbing the i386 dvd iso via torrent? can you see an actual seed?
[02:33] <kevor> Tinned_Tuna: it's RIPPING away flesh :P
[02:33] <Frogzoo> Hmmmm: 90kB/s :D
[02:33] <Tinned_Tuna> :p
[02:33] <grimboy> Hmmmm, azureus is a bit heavy for a background application.
[02:33] <dbglt> I followed the instructiosn under the heading: Install instructions for Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[02:33] <Hmmmm> Frogzoo, well im on a 512K connection, so i'll be happy with the 45K that im getting
[02:33] <dbglt> (on the wiki)
[02:33] <bliss_> Tinned_Tuna: how's it going?
[02:33] <dbglt> then tried removing it as is specified in the troubleshooting section
[02:33] <Frogzoo> Hmmmm: yup, sounds good
[02:34] <dooglus> Frogzoo: why do you need the alternate iso to upgrade?  there are packages on the desktop iso too...
[02:34] <sybariten> damn i know there are some pedagogical threads on the forum on how to set up the best locales system for sweden
[02:34] <dbglt> there don't seem to be any errors in my Xorg.log either
[02:34] <Fujitsu> dooglus, no there are not!
[02:34] <Chousuke> hmm.
[02:34] <robinl1> Can somebody tell me what the issues of the .pool test CD's were?
[02:34] <dxdemetriou> the update-manager will have later the upgrate to Dapper, or for each stable release upgrade must be used the -d?
[02:34] <Chousuke> Dapper looks pretty sleek
[02:34] <Hmmmm> well i'll leave for the day. will have dapper waiting to be deployed on 15 machines toimorrow morning...
[02:34] <Fujitsu> robinl1, no. General pre-release issues!
[02:34] <Chousuke> having a weird problem though.
[02:34] <sybariten> Chousuke: dapper? never heard of it.
[02:35] <Tinned_Tuna> go go big-pipe server!
[02:35] <grimboy> Chousuke, it looks slightly less like diarrah, yes.
[02:35] <Fujitsu> sybariten, Ubuntu 6.06.
[02:35] <Frogzoo> !tell cef about torrent
[02:35] <SunTzuTech> bliss_: grr.  I can't find the sources.list you need now  (it used to be on the wiki)
[02:35] <sybariten> Fujitsu: oh, i must have missed that
[02:35] <Chousuke> when I enable Finnish keyboard layout, keys from A to Z stop working
[02:35] <Prestidigita> Hi, im a newbie. can anyone tell me how to install opera on ubuntu ?
[02:35] <wycats> Is there a clean upgrade from Dapper Beta to Dapper full?
[02:35] <grimboy> !tell sybariten to be quiet
[02:35] <flodine> anyone use the alternate install cd i need help
[02:35] <wheelswitch> cef, yeah, 2 seeds
[02:35] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: just run the command I gave you just now
[02:35] <Frogzoo> cef: I got 2 seeds & 230 peers :D
[02:35] <dooglus> SunTzuTech: sudo sed -i s/breezy/dapper/ /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <wheelswitch> cef, dont worry, it will come
[02:36] <Fujitsu> wycats, just apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:36] <grimboy> !tell sybariten to be quiet
[02:36] <Fujitsu> grimboy, that was uncalled for.
[02:36] <SunTzuTech> dooglus: I'm already on 6.06.  I was telling bliss what he needed to change to get dapper upgraded.
[02:36] <robinl1> Prestidigita: sudo apt-get install opera, but first enable the universe and multiverse, there's instructions on that in the wiki and in the bot.
[02:36] <grimboy> Fujitsu, hehe
[02:36] <cef> wheelswitch: hehe yeah, just checking
[02:36] <muszek> Prestidigita: download the package from opera.com and then sudo dpkg -i name_of_the_package.deb
[02:36] <igorzolnikov> how can i read ntfs?
[02:36] <fredrich1> does gl games work even if youre running xgl?
[02:37] <bliss_> SunTzuTech: yep thanks maybe its changed?
[02:37] <grimboy> sybariten, A wet chocolate fish is traditional
[02:37] <flodine> if you use the alternate cd why dont it ask for a user name and pasword when installing
[02:37] <wheelswitch> cef, tomorrow it should be more like 1000 seeds, 2 peers
[02:37] <Kronoz> fredrich1, i've heard not but i'm not sure
[02:37] <Fujitsu> igorzolnikov, the installer should automagically mount them.
[02:37] <sshrdp> anybody tried new ati driver on dapper? i get "[fglrx]  ... could not register entrypoint for ..." error
[02:37] <Fujitsu> flodine, it should...
[02:37] <livingdaylight> WoaH! another Ubuntu-Mexican Wave makes its way around the World. Yea!
[02:37] <Kronoz> sshrdp, i don't think ati have made xorg 7 drivers yet
[02:37] <wheelswitch> was the 5.10 launch as big of an event as this?
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, not quite.
[02:38] <wycats> It says I have 0 upgrades; does that mean the updates already happened automatically?
[02:38] <robinl1> I love Dapper's default look.
[02:38] <wycats> There were a bunch of updates last night that I accepted
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wycats, probably.
[02:38] <bliss_> dooglus: do you have the line i need to but in my sources to update to 6.06 server please?
[02:38] <Fujitsu> wycats, that's it, then.
[02:38] <tubbie> installing win xp pro. hope it  install correctly :)
[02:38] <igorzolnikov> how can i write ntfs?
[02:38] <aLPHa_LeaK>  g'day
[02:38] <tubbie> I mean in Qemu
[02:38] <Fujitsu> igorzolnikov, you can't.
[02:38] <Fujitsu> tubbie, phew.
[02:38] <dbglt> ok, just went through the xorg log, and I get: (II) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit done (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware already been locked. - it then reverts to only 2d and not 3d acceleration, as it can't initialise DRI
[02:38] <robinl1> .. holy shit
[02:38] <wycats> Will it continue providing the updates automatically as they are released?
[02:38] <dbglt> any ideas what I could do to fix this up?
[02:38] <rambo3> !tell igorzolnikov about ntfs
[02:38] <robinl1> i look into the theme dialog, and HOLY MOTHER those are MUCH themes!
[02:39] <Kronoz> igorzolnikov, it can be done but it isn't really safe
[02:39] <Fujitsu> wycats, yes.
[02:39] <kspath> robinl1: Please keep your religion out of the channel
[02:39] <wycats> cool
[02:39] <sybariten> igorzolnikov: you can write to FAT but NTFS support is more kinda experimental, i believe
[02:39] <livingdaylight> Guys! once i've upgraded to Dapper from Breezy (10minutes away) will i have Dapper default looks?
[02:39] <robinl1> lol
[02:39] <wycats> so I won't need to do apt-get ...
[02:39] <Fujitsu> robinl1, is this surprising?
[02:39] <robinl1> Yes.
[02:39] <Verithrax> Aaagh.
[02:39] <Nookie> !ntfs
[02:39] <Verithrax> Apt died on me.
[02:39] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[02:39] <Verithrax> Preparing to replace xserver-xorg-core 6.8.2-77.1 (using .../xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb) ...
[02:39] <Verithrax> Unpacking replacement xserver-xorg-core ...
[02:39] <Verithrax> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:39] <Verithrax>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/scanpci', which is also in package gatos
[02:39] <Verithrax> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:39] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, you should. If not, just select the `Human' theme in System->Preferences->Theme.
[02:39] <Verithrax> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:39] <Verithrax>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_1%3a1.0.2-0ubuntu10_i386.deb
[02:39] <Verithrax> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:39] <robinl1> And they're all beautiful! ^_^
[02:39] <Kronoz> !paste
[02:39] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Verithrax: stop pasteing
[02:39] <Kholerabb1> Dappers's released!!!
[02:39] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu, Thx man  :)
[02:39] <rsk> no kidding
[02:39] <Kholerabb1> Anybody go to a party?
[02:40] <Kronoz> Kholerabb1, you don't say!
[02:40] <lib8264q> hmm stupid ? just checked "download sites" lts is released  .... sites that are supposed to have iso  the dates of are showing same dates as sits that "my not have yet"
[02:40] <Fujitsu> Kholerabb1, we noticed.
[02:40] <bliss_> ompaul: busy day
[02:40] <wheelswitch> anyone from canberra, australia want to party?
[02:40] <Frogzoo> !tell lib8264q about torrent
[02:40] <Prestidigita> muszek, i did it and im having some dependancy problem
[02:40] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; is the sound on boot-up still the same?
[02:40] <grimboy> Kholerabb1, I held my own party.
[02:40] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, on login, yes.
[02:40] <lib8264q> cool
[02:40] <Prestidigita> muszek, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102
[02:40] <Kholerabb1> grimboy: Good
[02:40] <rixth> Nooo, my fave. package is gone.
[02:41] <sybariten> wheelswitch: you cant seriously mean you are gonna have a party because a new distro version is released
[02:41] <Kholerabb1> ?
[02:41] <robinl1> all those themes..
[02:41] <grimboy> Kholerabb1, It just involved me drinking lots.
[02:41] <robinl1> they're so BEAUTIFUL!
[02:41] <Fujitsu> rixth, what?
[02:41] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; kewl. That was such a winner, it would have b een hard to improve on, no?!  :p
[02:41] <lib8264q> !tell lib8246q about torrent
[02:41] <flodine> Fujitsu i do a oem install and only ask for password
[02:41] <Fujitsu> livingdaylight, it's not bad!
[02:41] <Kholerabb1> :):):)
[02:41] <wheelswitch> sybariten, no, id be scared of who would turn up, linux party would be a little weird
[02:41] <rixth> Fujitsu: it was an alternative Gnome network applet, showed the current speed in and out
[02:41] <Fujitsu> flodine, why OEM?
[02:41] <sybariten> wheelswitch: no shit
[02:41] <livingdaylight> Fujitsu; common it rocks!  ;)
[02:42] <ompaul> **** Notice **** do not paste in the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org thank you
[02:42] <bliss_> anyone got the sources ist line to update from 5-10 server to 6.06 please
[02:42] <ompaul> !language
[02:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:42] <grimboy> wheelswitch, honestly you'd get a bit mix.
[02:42] <Fujitsu> bliss_, running a desktop installation?
[02:42] <wheelswitch> sybariten, but rumor has it there are a fair few parties going on around the world, i was more curious if any one from canberra was on
[02:42] <h3h_timo> !upgrade
[02:42] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:42] <kspath> !ompaul++
[02:42] <snoops> Hiya.. Just installed 6.06 amd64 desktop edition.. I went through the graphical install, chose my boot drive (which also has an xp install on it first)
[02:42] <robinl1> even new cursors?! oh man, dapper rules! the look is SO customizable!
[02:42] <snoops> I set the ext3 partition size, as well as a swap partition
[02:42] <ompaul> kspath, your like a one person fan club ;-) thanks
[02:42] <Frogzoo> !tell h3h_timo about torrent
[02:43] <Fujitsu> And, snoops?
[02:43] <Prestidigita> im having some dependancy problem while installing opera. can any one help me out ?
[02:43] <flodine> Fujitsu i want regular desktop install what should i do
[02:43] <Kronoz> lol, i've only ever seen 1000+ channel members in #gentoo before
[02:43] <bliss_> Fujitsu; no its a 5-10 server with fluxbox I want to update to 6.606 server
[02:43] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, what's missing?
[02:43] <snoops> it installed..quickly mentioned it was installing grub boot manager
[02:43] <grimboy> I keep getting the error unable to initiallize frontend: gnome
[02:43] <wheelswitch> `info
[02:43] <Fujitsu> flodine, clean, or upgrade?
[02:43] <snoops> then, I reboot and take out disk..then xp loads!
[02:43] <Frogzoo> !tell bliss_ about torrent
[02:43] <grimboy> (when upgrading)
[02:43] <kspath> Kronoz: metoo is popular?
[02:43] <sybariten> wheelswitch: GL, HF
[02:43] <h3h_timo> Frogzoo, im not gonna use the iso.. im gonna just update my computer...
[02:43] <snoops> so..umm what happened to the boot manager
[02:43] <Fujitsu> snoops, did you install GRUB to the MBR?
[02:43] <Prestidigita> Fujitsu, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt
[02:43] <Frogzoo> h3h_timo: torrents way faster dude
[02:43] <snoops> I just went through the graphical installer Fujitsu
[02:43] <Kronoz> kspath, unfortunatly
[02:44] <noodle> grimboy, wheelswitch: the replace firefox icon option in easyubuntu is not supported for ppc it seems :S
[02:44] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, install the two packages using Synaptic.
[02:44] <flodine> Fujitsu when i put the cd in theres oem and text install
[02:44] <snoops> it never gave me options to set the boot partition or choose which boot manager to use
[02:44] <petrik> 2 seconds into it..... looks nice
[02:44] <Fujitsu> flodine, you should have used text install!
[02:44] <h3h_timo> Frogzoo, i know.. but im gonna be gone all day and im just gonna let it install
[02:44] <bliss_> Frogzoo:i want to use apt-get nottorrent
[02:44] <jpatota> snoops, did you fall asleep and did grub load windows for you?
[02:44] <rsk> gah the software updater just died
[02:44] <Fujitsu> rsk, how?
[02:44] <ompaul> Verithrax, do this, >> sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade  <<
[02:44] <rsk> it just did. :)
[02:44] <Frogzoo> bah - people apt-get updating will just crash the repos :p
[02:44] <wheelswitch> is it posible to change the default os that grub loads up?
[02:44] <holycow> bah
[02:44] <jpatota> snoops, or did grub just not show up at all
[02:44] <Prestidigita> Fujitsu, im a newbie don't knw what is synaptic. cud u give me a reference
[02:45] <holycow> dapper iso doesn't work!
[02:45] <Fujitsu> wheelswitch, of course.
[02:45] <holycow> meh
[02:45] <snoops> grub install never showed up
[02:45] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[02:45] <ubotu> synaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:45] <Fujitsu> Prestidigita, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager.
[02:45] <grimboy> !doesn't work
[02:45] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:45] <holycow> snoops, same here
[02:45] <holycow> hung up the laptop
[02:45] <Fujitsu> holycow, you sure it's valid?
[02:45] <ompaul> holycow, check the md5 sum of that you downloaded
[02:45] <snoops> I mean, when it said it was installing..in the messages it mentioned grub..
[02:45] <fredrich1> um...does aiglx work better with games ans whatnot? or does it hog gpu functionality like xgl?
[02:45] <snoops> but there's no sign of it
[02:45] <jpatota> snoops, can you modify your boot.ini in windows?
[02:45] <flodine> Fujitsu text is command line right
[02:45] <snoops> yep
[02:45] <rambo3> guess forums are overloaded
[02:45] <jpatota> snoops, or did you want to use the grub loader
[02:46] <Fujitsu> flodine, not really.
[02:46] <snoops> I would have liked to use the grub boot loader
[02:46] <jpatota> snoops, actually its probably better to use grub
[02:46] <ompaul> holycow, if the imag e  has a different md5sum then it is broken in some way regrab
[02:46] <Fujitsu> flodine, OEM is just a modified text installation.
[02:46] <snoops> but I would have also liked to have set a boot partition
[02:46] <DrNickRiviera> anyone here got experience with noflushd and journaling filesystems?
[02:46] <holycow> ompaul, *hmm*k
[02:46] <n00tz> what's the quickest way to get GDM set back to my Login Manager? I installed KDM no hitch, but I think I like GDM better
[02:46] <snoops> since I had a free 700meg space just for it
[02:46] <Fujitsu> jpatota, you can't use the Windows bootloader to boot Linux.
[02:46] <ompaul> holycow, :-)
[02:46] <Fujitsu> n00tz, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, and select gdm.
[02:46] <aftertaf> n00tz, apt-get remove kdm && apt-get install gdm
[02:46] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[02:46] <Frogzoo> bliss_: at this rate, all the apt-get upgrades will fail when the repos finally fall over...
[02:46] <rambo3> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:46] <holycow> !dapper
[02:46] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[02:46] <rsk> :)
[02:46] <n00tz> Fujitsu: thanks
[02:47] <DrNickRiviera> just wondering whether it will make any difference on a drive that is mainly used for reading
[02:47] <snoops> By the way, I'm very impressed with the installer
[02:47] <livingdaylight> Where is the LONDON party?
[02:47] <Ocult> dae
[02:47] <tubbie> installing xp in qemu is so slow :(
[02:47] <TobiasFar> hod can i check which ubuntu version i have?
[02:47] <TobiasFar> how
[02:47] <Frogzoo> TobiasFar: lsb_release -a
[02:47] <dooglus> holycow: try seeding the image on bittorrent.  if it is corrupted, your torrent client will fix the corruption very quickly
[02:47] <snoops> it's a bit annoying how my monitors res isn't supported..but I'll fix that in my x11 conf file
[02:47] <rambo3> Systemm->help
[02:47] <rambo3> TobiasFar, Systemm->help
[02:47] <YogSothoth> ompaul: Hi! I forgot to say thanx yesterday: the fstab file works perfect! I can now access my Windows disk without being root!
[02:47] <jpatota> snoops, http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~yu_luo/fc3_grub.html
[02:47] <Fujitsu> I'd better be off to bed... See you all!
[02:47] <bliss_> Frogzoo: ok but i still need thesources line for 6.06 server I will risk the fail
[02:47] <grimboy> livingdaylight, London
[02:47] <baconbacon> dooglus: system, about ubuntu
[02:47] <x3on> what is the most up to date guide on using WPA in dapper?
[02:47] <Frogzoo> !tell holycow about torrent
[02:47] <ompaul> TobiasFar, >>lsb_release -d << run that in a terminal
[02:47] <rambo3> sorry
[02:48] <holycow> dooglus, chan title says not to use torrent
[02:48] <jpatota> snoops, i dont know how much that will help
[02:48] <rambo3> TobiasFar, Systemm-> about ubuntu
[02:48] <ompaul> YogSothoth, no problem, glad it worked for you
[02:48] <dooglus> holycow: no, it doesn't.  read it again
[02:48] <Fujitsu> x3on, get Network Manager
[02:48] <lib8264q> am i asume the download servers busy ??????
[02:48] <jpatota> snoops, but the general idea still applies
[02:48] <livingdaylight> grimboy: hahaha, you naughty devil. I see no party scheduled for London. Is it over at your place?
[02:48] <ompaul> lib8264q, you assume correctly
[02:48] <snoops> I don't see how any of that would work jpatota
[02:48] <TobiasFar> rambo3, about ubuntu shows a webpage in firefox which doesn't mention any version number
[02:48] <Fujitsu> lib8264q, they will be slow for a while.
[02:48] <snoops> since..like I can't get to my ubuntu install
[02:48] <x3on> Is that included in the default repositories, Fujitsu?
[02:48] <holycow> ah
[02:48] <rsk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074275#post1074275
[02:48] <holycow> danke
[02:48] <rsk> plzhelp
[02:48] <Fujitsu> x3on, yes.
[02:48] <lib8264q> lol yea i guess so  cant get onto  lol
[02:49] <Fujitsu> network-manager-gnome, or something like that.
[02:49] <n00tz> Dapper on my Thinkpad JustWorked (tm)
[02:49] <n00tz> thanks for the help everyone
[02:49] <n00tz> ;)
[02:49] <Fujitsu> No problem, n00tz.
[02:49] <snoops> thanks for the help so far jpatota
[02:49] <grimboy> livingdaylight, Nah, I maybe details are being clarified.
[02:49] <Fujitsu> What model ThinkPad?
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !tell lib8264q about torrent
[02:49] <snoops> so umm.. should I go over the details again?
[02:49] <gego2> 1032
[02:49] <snoops> since it was quite segmented
[02:50] <rambo3> TobiasFar, thats weard
[02:50] <grimboy> livingdaylight, If it's on the wiki look at previous versions, it might have had a place.
[02:50] <livingdaylight> grimboy; are you in London?
[02:50] <Fujitsu> Goodnight all!
[02:50] <livingdaylight> grimboy; i looked there is nothing scheduled yet
[02:50] <scheuri> Fujitsu: he doenst seem to want to know us his type of thinkpad...
[02:50] <gego2> its not night..
[02:50] <Hamurabbi> on the ubuntu.com website, i see two versions
[02:50] <baconbacon> ubuntuforums asploded?
[02:50] <grimboy> livingdaylight, No, I'm in sleepy, redneck York
[02:50] <bliss_> Frogzoo:i cannot use torrent
[02:50] <lexhider> Is it possible to use the ubuntu desktop installer (dapper) in non-graphics mode (console) ???
[02:50] <Fujitsu> scheuri, apparently not :P
[02:50] <wheelswitch> Fujitsu, night
[02:50] <jiv> hi, how set screen resolution on login scree?
[02:50] <Hamurabbi> on the ubuntu.com website, i see two versions, desktop and server, can I install the "server" version if i Download the "Desktop" version ?
[02:50] <Fujitsu> No, lexhider.
[02:51] <Fujitsu> You need the alternate or server CD.
[02:51] <Fujitsu> Hamurabbi, no.
[02:51] <livingdaylight> grimboy; hahaha, you're lucky, or'd come and crash your pad  :p
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> what's th edifference between the two
[02:51] <Frogzoo> bliss_: why not? to upgrade, either use the 'alternate' CD iso - or get the DVD
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> there isn't much details on the site
[02:51] <grimboy> livingdaylight, heh
[02:51] <[A] ndy80> a simple question: I've replaced "breezy" with "dapper" in my sources.list since 3 months ago. Every day I do dist-upgrade.... do I have the latest stable now that 6.06 is out?
[02:51] <Hamurabbi> (where i'm looking)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> !tell lexhider about torrent
[02:51] <jbroome> [A] ndy80: yeah
[02:51] <[A] ndy80> thanks
[02:52] <bliss_> Frogzoo; i am on a server with mimimal packages
[02:52] <Frogzoo> bliss_: well, there is that...
[02:52] <livingdaylight> ok, about to have LIFTOFF. Counting down to reboot now, wish me Luck
[02:52] <grimboy> Could someone help me, when upgrading I keep getting errors like: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
[02:52] <aftertaf> grimboy, paste the messages to pastebin
[02:52] <changerOfSea> is a desktop cd like a live cd and an install cd combined into one?
[02:52] <snoops> I'm gonna try reboot again to see if I somehow missed the grub boot loader opening
[02:52] <baconbacon> grimboy: dist-upgrae or upgrade?
[02:52] <bliss_> Frogzoo: thankyou
[02:52] <snoops> but I totally doubt it
[02:52] <aftertaf> changerOfSea, seems so yeah :)
[02:52] <changerOfSea> aftertaf: thanks
[02:52] <Frogzoo> bliss_: cheers bliss_ yw
[02:52] <grimboy> baconbacon, -d when it was RC
[02:52] <aledie> Hi, if the dist-upgrade worked, why cat /etc/debian_version gives testing/unstable
[02:52] <aftertaf> snoops, you press ESC?
[02:53] <snoops> when?
[02:53] <grimboy> aftertaf, I can't paste because control-c will stop it.
[02:53] <Fee^> Linux afsw 2.6.13 #1 Tue Sep 6 17:56:37 PDT 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
[02:53] <McNutella> the servers must be going at some pace, im at a constant 650k a second here :D
[02:53] <bliss_> Frogzoo; ye thanks
[02:53] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[02:53] <livingdaylight> grimboy; maybe you should install Warty? hehe
[02:53] <RandolphCarter> aledie: lsb_release -a ?
[02:53] <aftertaf> grimboy, not ctl+C, select the text in console.
[02:53] <Hamurabbi> does anyone have a list of details of differences between server and desktop ?
[02:53] <McNutella> Hamurabbi, its on the web somewhere
[02:54] <McNutella> one of the ubuntu sites
[02:54] <bliss_> anybody have the sources line to for apt-get to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 server please?
[02:54] <aledie> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:54] <aledie> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[02:54] <aledie> Release:        6.06
[02:54] <aledie> Codename:       dapper
[02:54] <wheelswitch> grimboy, select the text in the console, then ctl+v or middle click to paste
[02:54] <holycow> was the optional installer available for testing before? weird i don't remember that
[02:54] <troy_> anyone else here having a release party?
[02:54] <RandolphCarter> aledie: there you go then :) I just installed from scratch, and my debian_version's testing/unstable also
[02:54] <rsk> troy_: im gonna have one tonight :)
[02:54] <troy_> hehe
[02:54] <TobiasFar> rambo3, the lsb_release -d command just returns the name, is there a way to get the version number? Or just: Is  Ubuntu (The Breezy Badger Release) == Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[02:54] <McNutella> troy_, having one myself with couple friends in my street, since I provide netaccess to them all via wifi :)
[02:54] <holycow> heh look made it on slashdot
[02:54] <troy_> lol
[02:54] <holycow> oh man are the servers ever gonna burn
[02:55] <aledie> i actually used dapper for monthes, just today tried dist-upgrade, nothing happened
[02:55] <livingdaylight> aledie; haha, ready to join the Ubuntu-Mexican Wave?
[02:55] <troy_> just got home and drinking beer byu myself, is that a party?
[02:55] <YogSothoth> I see here http://tinyurl.com/jrnol that there is a X-Chat GNOME Message Notification: well I don't have it enabled it seems. How can I enable it?
[02:55] <RandolphCarter> TobiasFar: lsb_release -r
[02:55] <holycow> well congratulations to all the devs an dparticapants and community
[02:55] <grimboy> wheelswitch, Doesn't work
[02:55] <aLd> thanx everyone now at 12%
[02:55] <Fee^> 6.06 LTS is not the new full version... is it?
[02:55] <holycow> i had dapper whatever installed 3 days ago for a client and it is working great
[02:55] <troy_> i'm at 29%
[02:55] <tuxtheslacker> :-( this thing is giving me crap about picasa breaking randomly :-/.
[02:55] <aledie> tried to check and saw testing/unstable, so just was currios about if i am really on stable now
[02:55] <Fee^> i've got that from 5/23
[02:55] <TIIPOS> I need help, I need an ideal source list, I have used "source o matic" but the list that it constructed for me was incredibly unreliable, I am constantly getting stalled downloads when I use synaptic, could someone please link me to an ideal dapper srouce list?
[02:55] <aledie> i actually used unstable since february
[02:56] <TobiasFar> RandolphCarter, thx
[02:56] <wheelswitch> grimboy, so you are selecting, as in highlighting, in ubuntu, then middle clicking wher eyou want the txt and it isnt working?
[02:56] <holycow> tuxmaniac, well its a shitty windows app .. send some hatemail to google and get them to actually develop it using a real toolkit like qt or gtk
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell TIIPOS about sources
[02:56] <livingdaylight> ubotu tell grimboy about Warty, hehe
[02:56] <troy_> !sources
[02:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:56] <tuxtheslacker> is there a way I can do a slocate with excluding a directory?
[02:56] <sybariten> ubotu tell me about fcuking kbd layouts
[02:57] <troy_> lol
[02:57] <livingdaylight> haha
[02:57] <gnomefreak> sybariten: watch your language
[02:57] <troy_> ubotu is a bot?
[02:57] <aledie> livingdaylight, I am in Hong Kong ;)
[02:57] <ubotu> troy_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <sybariten> troy_: yeah ... and he didnt know that one
[02:57] <sybariten> gnomefreak: hey, ubotu used the same bad language when replying!
[02:57] <Cas> tuxtheslacker: you can pipe the output to grep and include/exclude more keywords
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell troy_ about you
[02:57] <livingdaylight> aledie; haha, London, i see the wave coming  '<
[02:57] <aledie> livingdaylight, if still can get a ticket to mexico, what i doubt
[02:58] <tuxtheslacker> Cas, how would I exclude a keyword?
[02:58] <melodie> hello, are there many on the torrrents to dl Dapper ?
[02:58] <Cas> tuxtheslacker: locate foo | grep bar, see man grep for more
[02:58] <grimboy> wheelswitch, I've tried it several times, and yes, that's exacly what happens
[02:58] <tubbie> netstream[eth1: Receiving 275 KB/s, Sending 47 KB/s]
[02:58] <snoops> okay..no definitely no grub
[02:59] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; i'm 24 minutes away from launching operation dapper Dapper, hehe, i'm so excited!
[02:59] <nealmcb> June 1st @ 18h00 - The Colorado LoCo Team's Release Party, June 1st. 18:00 - Location - Ziggy's Cafe, 4th & Main, Longmont.
[02:59] <bliss_> anybody got the sources line to upgrade fron 5-10 server to 6.06 server?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bliss_ about sources
[02:59] <Hamurabbi> if i download the "server" release, i386, can i switch from gnome to kde ?
[02:59] <scheuri> bliss_: just exchange the word breezy with the word dapper
[02:59] <holycow> no, it doesn't come with a desktop
[02:59] <livingdaylight> GUYS, any of you from London. Where's the Party?!
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Hamurabbi: server install does use either of them but you can install whatever one you like
[03:00] <bliss_> gnomefreak: thanks i looked in wiki already
[03:00] <tuxtheslacker> what does unhandled page fualt on read access to 0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9a mean?
[03:00] <grimboy> wheelswitch, I would just type it out, but it keeps scrolling off the terminal and then reoccuring
[03:00] <smo> Any opinions as to which torrent could most benefit a seeder? I've put about 12GiB into desktop-i386, but with multiple disks, unsure which is most in demand
[03:00] <bliss_> scheuri: interesting thought
[03:00] <gnomefreak> bliss_: whats wrong with that sources.list in the pastebin?
[03:01] <grimboy> wheelswitch, the basic message is unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
[03:01] <snoops> okay..here's the issue I installed 6.06 amd64 with graphical installer. It asked for which partition to install to. I chose my windows hdd, which had 100gb unpartitioned space. I setup a / partition and a swap partition. Then it said it would install.. It said it installed..then asked me to restart and take the cd out
[03:01] <snoops> I do that.. then it loads xp
[03:01] <snoops> so..what happened to grub?
[03:01] <snoops> and choosing a boot partition
[03:02] <bliss_> gnomefreak: ok sorry that might help looked else where
[03:02] <MacSlow> Am I imagining things or is www.ubuntuforums.com currently hammered a lot? Responses feel sluggish atm.
[03:02] <ocult> hello
[03:02] <livingdaylight> Hey, lets all go over to Mark's place, i hear he's throwing a party!
[03:02] <rsk> slasdotted..
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> what does unhandled page fualt on read access to 0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9a mean?
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> does that mean I have bad ram???
[03:02] <MacSlow> rsk, ah might be
[03:02] <ocult> always in drapper drake  beta or final.. i have problem with resolution screen
[03:02] <kspath> MacSlow: release day? What do you think?
[03:02] <holycow> snoops, at the end of that there should of been a line asking you 'install grub to /boot or boot sector'
[03:02] <ocult> somebody know how solve this ?
[03:02] <Grout58> is the sudo apt-get dist upgrade working yet?
[03:02] <Doso> MacSlow: I cant reach it either :]
[03:02] <pimkie> helloooooo
[03:02] <rambo3> tuxtheslacker, more like vm
[03:02] <grimboy> MacSlow, DAPPER IS TEH ROCKER topics x 1000
[03:02] <holycow> snoops, i think there is some funkyness going on ... not sure yet i can't download anything, too slow
[03:02] <livingdaylight> grimboy, you got the beers in the cooler?
[03:02] <GnarusLeo> hey, I have kubuntu now, how would I approach to upgarde to the new system?
[03:02] <heanol> is the dapper release the same as the rc?
[03:02] <tuxtheslacker> rambo3, vm?
[03:02] <snoops> holycow never saw that option
[03:02] <sybariten> ok i dont wanna be a grumpy bitch... well more than i already am... but couldnt we just keep the "OMG Dapper is so fresh :) :) :) WTF where is the ghayest release partay???!!!" discussions in the ubuntu-offtopic chan?
[03:03] <pimkie> i can a good boy for sex
[03:03] <holycow> snoops, neither did i with my first cd
[03:03] <rambo3> virtual memory , (paging)
[03:03] <pradeep> guys, can someone point me to the link which has the changes/improvements in dapper compared to breezy?
[03:03] <heanol> snoops, exact same thing happened to me
[03:03] <rsk> heanol: yeah if you update
[03:03] <snoops> it did say however that it was installing grub
[03:03] <grimboy> livingdaylight, No, cheap beer doesn't need to be cooled.
[03:03] <tuxtheslacker> virtual memory rambo3 ??
[03:03] <MacSlow> kspath, well it feels so strange to see/read all the fuss... I mean.. it feels everybody "around me" tried and installed Dapper druing it dev-phase already :)
[03:03] <snoops> heanol worked out the fix?
[03:03] <snoops> :)
[03:03] <livingdaylight> grimboy, kekeke
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pimkie: no more of that thanks
[03:03] <gnomefreak> sybariten: i will not warn you again about your language
[03:03] <heanol> nope, i tried to manually install lilo but it borked
[03:03] <TIIPOS> yeah I have done that
[03:03] <holycow> snoops, if its an issue you will haveto wait for an updated release
[03:03] <snoops> ugh
[03:03] <heanol> i've never had much luck with grub so i blamed it on grub
[03:03] <livingdaylight> sybariten, what's up sister, you seem uptight?
[03:03] <snoops> well that's really frustrating
[03:03] <tanek> anyone using dapper on a laptop with synaptics touchpad?
[03:04] <Grout58> sudo apt-get dist upgrade isnt working for me
[03:04] <pimkie> snoopss....
[03:04] <snoops> I was really looking forward to using it..
[03:04] <chimai> tanek : yup.
[03:04] <holycow> snoops, its actually common with ubuntu
[03:04] <tuxtheslacker> tanek, I'm on breezy witha  synaptics touchpad.
[03:04] <holycow> snoops, last ubuntu release was a disaster
[03:04] <snoops> I skipped breezy :)
[03:04] <sybariten> gnomefreak: uh ... what? are there christian rules to what you can say and not here? please tell me what part of my sentence that upset you
[03:04] <snoops> last one I used was warty
[03:04] <tanek> do u have probs with it beeing hypersensitive?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> holycow: it was? I didn't think so...
[03:04] <grimboy> snoops, the difference wasn't that significant
[03:04] <snoops> dapper feels nice
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sybariten -about language
[03:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, totally, i had loads of machines that couldn't automount cds or mount floppies
[03:05] <Tenshi> did something happen to the "sharpmusique" package?
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> hey, I have kubuntu now, how would I approach to upgarde to the new system?
[03:05] <heanol> can i boot up my installed system from the install/live cd? like using it as a rescue disc? :P
[03:05] <snoops> and wow..detected by sata drives first go..
[03:05] <holycow> or usb disks
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> ? upgrade
[03:05] <GnarusLeo> ! upgrade
[03:05] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:05] <bliss_> gnomefreak: from the list at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 which is appliable to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 server there are two src sections?
[03:05] <dooglus> snoops: did you try using lilo instead of grub?  I've never managed to get grub to work.
[03:05] <LinuxJones> sybariten, there are rules in the channel please try to obey them.
[03:05] <sybariten> livingdaylight: nothing, its just that there are 1000 people here and if a lot of them just wanna say that they wanna throw a party or something, it may be a good idea to split people between the ubuntu chan and the ubuntu-offtopic chan .. just an idea
[03:05] <tanek> i hardly touch it and it considers that a double tap, plus the acceleration is so god damn annoying
[03:05] <snoops> I don't want to screw with this hdd too much dooglus
[03:05] <thoreauputic> holycow: hmm - OK, I didn't see that here, but then I have only a small home network
[03:05] <livingdaylight> sybariten, this is a christian ubuntu channel, hehehe...Re:offtopic? thhis is happy Dapper day, everyone is allowed to let it hang out a bit
[03:05] <gnomefreak> bliss_: those are extra repos they aide in building stuff
[03:05] <tuxtheslacker> are there any known problems with the linux usb drivers, and linux? because this thing struggles with reading/using SUB devices.
[03:06] <snoops> because I would bloody HATE to have to reinstall applications on my xp install
[03:06] <thoreauputic> holycow: oh, yes, floppies were a problem - that I remember
[03:06] <sybariten> livingdaylight: yeah yeah, i guess youre right
[03:06] <heanol> dooglus, how the heck do you use lilo with the graphical installer?
[03:06] <Paradoxx> hmm, will there be a party here?
[03:06] <Kholerabb1> Whats this about Desktop and Server cds, is desktop a combination of LiveCD and installation CD??
[03:06] <kahuna_> Hi.Can I upgrade by soing s/breezy/dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dift-upgrade?
[03:06] <tanek> cant find any programs for configuring it... any ideas tuxtheslacker, chimai ?
[03:06] <Most_Wanted> wicked
[03:06] <kahuna_> err, that without the typos that is :)
[03:06] <dooglus> heanol: I don't know.  I installed it when I installed warty
[03:06] <Paradoxx> lol, the mirrors are gettin trashed
[03:06] <heanol> ok
[03:06] <tuxtheslacker> tanek, mine was picked up on install.
[03:06] <chimai> tanek : no idea. It works perfectly by default
[03:06] <dooglus> heanol: or was he called hoary.  I forget.
[03:06] <Mirv> anyone has a quick ling to the official ubuntu logo image? small size?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> kahuna_: except for the typo, yes :)
[03:06] <Mirv> ling=link
[03:06] <snoops> dooglus..right well the graphical installer does not ask you to install grub, or ask you to specify the boot partition
[03:07] <tanek> wierd... mine does not work good at all :(
[03:07] <snoops> so.. major frustration for me
[03:07] <holycow> thoreauputic, if i dist upgraded the entire 200 machines ... i would of been seriously *effed* ... i can't complain about free really it simply could of been terrible
[03:07] <livingdaylight> sybariten: well i went to ubuntu+1 but it was dead. Hey, you're ok, you know? where is your party at? i might come and crash, hehe  ;)
[03:07] <grimboy> Wow, the new ubuntu.com is sexy
[03:07] <kahuna_> Any issues with breezy->dapper or will I be all set after the dist-upgrade?
[03:07] <dooglus> snoops: so the installation has been streamlined?  :)
[03:07] <livingdaylight> grimboy; yea! you just noticed? Its smoooooooth
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Linux usb2 code is not very good (generally) especially on flaky hardware does it work using 1.1 in the bios ?
[03:07] <bliss_> gnomefreak: so its just the deb http  sections for 6.06 server?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> holycow: I imagine so - were the bugs squashed fairly fast after release?
[03:07] <snoops> dooglus most definitely has
[03:07] <heanol> snoops, please tell me if you solve it somehow.
[03:07] <sybariten> livingdaylight: hehe, no party here, i just want a global keyboard layout that works in X aswell as console, then i might take a shot of Baileys or something
[03:07] <bimberi> !tell kahuna_ about upgrade
[03:07] <Most_Wanted> those mirrors are too slow :(
[03:07] <Frogzoo> !tell Paradoxx about torrent
[03:07] <snoops> heanol I doubt I'll be the one to solve it
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[03:08] <Monmouth> How much free space does one need in order to do an upgrade?
[03:08] <dooglus> grimboy: you think that's sexy?  do you fancy the 'support' guy?
[03:08] <heanol> can i boot up my installed system from the install/live cd? like using it as a rescue disc? :P
[03:08] <snoops> consider I'm not willing to mess about with this hdd
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !tell Most_Wanted about torrent
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> !tell everybody to stop telling !
[03:08] <snoops> considering*
[03:08] <livingdaylight> sybariten; hahaha, doesn't seem to much to ask for
[03:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, they werent squashed at all actually.  the bugs were moved to dapper for fixing ...
[03:08] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, what do you mean using 1.1 in the bios?
[03:08] <heanol> snoops, well i did and made my windows unbootable, it sucked :) hehe
[03:08] <kahuna_> Thanks.
[03:08] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, can I turn 2.0 off, and use 2.0 devices?
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> i have one Frogzoo
[03:08] <thoreauputic> holycow: hmm :-(
[03:08] <snoops> heanol - that's exactly the kind of thing I couldn't afford to do right now
[03:08] <Most_Wanted> hmm as soon as i downloaded it i will throw a mirror up myself :)
[03:09] <_mason> !opengl
[03:09] <ubotu> _mason: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:09] <gnomefreak> bliss_: the src repos are fine you dont _need_ them but handy to have
[03:09] <kahuna_> Update-manager doesn't tell me there's an upgrade available. odd.
[03:09] <Hattori> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 this one is good to upgrade to 6.06 too?
[03:09] <_mason> !openGL
[03:09] <sybariten> LinuxJones: sure there are rules... i've just never seen anyone being offended on irc by the word "bitch" before. It means female dog or something and its even turned into a verb these days ("hes always the first to bitch").
[03:09] <ubotu> _mason: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:09] <Paradoxx> Frogzoo: thx much, thats what i was actually looking for
[03:09] <kahuna_> But I do it the "old way" anyway
[03:09] <holycow> thoreauputic, in other words, i am expecticng similar this time around ... teams tend to develop quirks like that
[03:09] <kimo> kahuna_: update it first
[03:09] <Frogzoo> Paradoxx: cool, yw
[03:09] <grimboy> dooglus, I meant it looked maccy with the widescreens everywhere, but you obviouly consider the support guy to be something
[03:09] <kspath> _mason: /msg ubotu opengl
[03:09] <Fee^> is the 6.06 LTS == the release? i've noticed system update doesn't pick anything up
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> where's the torrent link ?
[03:09] <ivano> ciao ao ao
[03:09] <Frogzoo> !torrent
[03:09] <_mason> ok kspath
[03:09] <kimo> Fee^: update the update-manager first
[03:09] <LinuxJones> sybariten, dude it's considered cursing here.
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> !torrent ?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Most_Wanted: in the /topic
[03:09] <chainlynx> the main page has dapper up now as the main download
[03:09] <Fee^> kimo: how?
[03:09] <Most_Wanted> aha oke ty thoreauputic
[03:10] <Frogzoo> !tell Most_Wanted about torrent
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: You can (they are backwards compatible) kmod-usb2 is pretty buggy but usb-uhci and usb-ohci seem to be more reliable
[03:10] <bliss_> gnomefreak: all i need is to upgrade from 5-10 server to 6.06 sever
[03:10] <dooglus> grimboy: I was kind of getting aroused by the new design until his image loaded, and then I was back with my old friend Mr. Floppy.
[03:10] <snoops> oh yeah, 6.06 totally doesn't support 1920x1200 res..I'm gonna have to add that myself
[03:10] <kimo> Fee^: apt-get update && apt-get install update-manager
[03:10] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; after i've upgraded to Dapper, will i have to take care of repos, or is that handled during the upgrade/update section automatically?
[03:10] <Fee^> kimo: thankee :)
[03:10] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, I have usb-uhci installed.
[03:10] <Hattori> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 this one is good to upgrade to 6.06 too?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> bliss_: than keep your sources.list file and change the words breezy to dapper
[03:10] <MistaED> snoops: 1920x1200 works here
[03:11] <snoops> MistaED this is with the live cd?
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know if a restart will fix this unhandeled page fault on read access to  0x003c002f at address 0x7bebe9fa
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> ?
[03:11] <tuxtheslacker> ^^ is this a ram error?
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Have you ehci_hcd loaded also ?
[03:11] <snoops> because I haven't been able to get into the installed machine - because of the lack of grub in the install
[03:11] <sybariten> LinuxJones: ok, well, didnt know that. There should be a blacklist or something somewhere. For non-americans (or non-brits, etc) its sometimes hard to estimate if the word "blabla" will be offensive or not (and ofcourse one always tries to use it anyhow)
[03:11] <Frogzoo> !tell kimo about torrent
[03:11] <grimboy> dooglus, It's kind of disturbing that you'd rather be a technophile than a admit that the support guy is sexy.
[03:11] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; man, i'm counting on you?  :o
[03:11] <MistaED> snoops: nah an install, got nvidia video?
[03:11] <Most_Wanted> my download is going with 6.6 KB/sec lol
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> snoops: do you have a Ubuntu live-cd lying around?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: for what?
[03:11] <snoops> yep MistaED
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Most_Wanted: 90kB/s here :D
[03:12] <dooglus> grimboy: what does technophile mean again?
[03:12] <tuxtheslacker> h3sp4wn, yup.
[03:12] <snoops> RandolphCarter I've got the 6.06 desktop cd - which has a live cd
[03:12] <Most_Wanted> will take 30 days before i have ubuntu 6.06 ROFLMAOPIMP
[03:12] <snoops> well, I mean which is a live cd/graphical installer
[03:12] <sybariten> are there any other packages related to "locale" that will affect how my terminal behaves? uh, i mean, what kbd layout it uses
[03:12] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: try to enable ECC in BIOS
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; oh, you missed my post to you. After my dapper upgrade/ update do i need to take care of repos?
[03:12] <Frogzoo> Most_Wanted: if the repos don't actually fall over
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> snoops: okay, you can use that to boot, mount the partitions you installed Ubuntu to in a terminal and then 'chroot' into it
[03:12] <MistaED> snoops: the nv driver only supports up to 1280x1024 for me, i needed the prop driver to get 1920x1200
[03:12] <Jowi> h3sp4wn: yeah, i'm trying to update and install some stuff and the main fr.archive servers are damn slow. then I remembered the date :)
[03:12] <fatalblu> so how is it?
[03:12] <Most_Wanted> lol Frogzoo
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; or is that handled automatically?
[03:12] <tuxtheslacker> killefiz, what would that do?
[03:12] <Paradoxx> wow, who are ubuntu teams hosts
[03:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: no you shouldnt have to
[03:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; Cooool
[03:12] <RandolphCarter> snoops: then you can run grub-install and grub-update
[03:13] <sybariten> or maybe i should restart X before i complain ...  is a ctrl-bckspace enough on ubuntu? to really exit X ?
[03:13] <GNAM> CDs of Shipit program are RW? :P
[03:13] <rackerz> When automatix closes, it asks me if I want to save the sources.list that is uses, should i let it save?
[03:13] <kimo> sybariten: ctrl + alt + <-
[03:13] <grimboy> dooglus, Recently, the idea of technophilia is also used in connection with a behavior which realizes forms of sexual deviance with the help of the computer and the Internet.
[03:13] <kahuna_> Congrats on keeping up w/ the demand guys.
[03:13] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; by the way you Rock. Did anyone ever tell you that? All the help you've given to me personally and hundreds others like me here ... solid gold man...
[03:13] <dooglus> grimboy: either way, my point is that he isn't.  he's all lumpy and funny looking.  I can see they're trying to show they've got geeks who can help out, but is he the best they could find for the photoshoot?
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> tuxtheslacker: Just try forcing it to usb 1.1 (see motherboard manual) test it then
[03:13] <Most_Wanted> hmm, when are the shipping cd's coming ?
[03:13] <snoops> uhh.. I really don't know my linux terminal commands..so mounting a few drives I can do..
[03:13] <Fee^> update-manager is already the newest version.
[03:13] <rackerz> When automatix closes, it asks me if I want to save the sources.list that is uses, should i let it save?
[03:13] <Fee^> o.O
[03:13] <snoops> but the whole chrooting stuff I haven't done
[03:13] <Fee^> kimo
[03:14] <RandolphCarter> snoops: that's about it, to chroot just type "chroot /path/you/mounted/drives"
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Most_Wanted: you can order them they will be shipped soona nd you will get them 4-6 weeks
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> !schroot
[03:14] <ubotu> h3sp4wn: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <Russell-> list.ubuntu.com mailing list down?
[03:14] <neoXite> would the de.archive.ubuntu.com mirror already have the current final repo?
[03:14] <kimo> Fee^: updating from Breezy ?
[03:14] <snoops> so I don't feel confident - and the risk of screwing up this hdd's boot partition isn't an option
[03:14] <kimo> !upda
[03:14] <ubotu> kimo: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <kimo> !update
[03:14] <ubotu> kimo: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <Fee^> kimo: no, 6.06 LTS
[03:14] <Frogzoo_away> Russell-: all the servers are getting belted
[03:14] <RandolphCarter> snoops: you can always fix it with a windows boot disk (fdisk /mbr)
[03:14] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak; like i said - you rock - let the love in man.. hehe
[03:14] <ivoks> so, 1045 people :)
[03:14] <kimo> Fee^: from dapper to dapper ?
[03:14] <antibios> razerz did automatix work well on 6.06
[03:14] <ivoks> everybody busy installing? :)
[03:15] <snoops> umm..the windows floppy boot disk?
[03:15] <theine> !automatix
[03:15] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:15] <ompaul> !automatix
[03:15] <Frogzoo_away> !tell ivoks about torrent
[03:15] <rackerz> automatix works great on 6.06
[03:15] <snoops> or you mean the xp install disc?
 unrouteable mail domain "lists.ubuntu.com"
[03:15] <dr_willis> ivoks:   just doing an apt-get dist-upgrade here. :P
[03:15] <igorzolnikov> how can i set gateway? I want use ifconfig and route...
[03:15] <snoops> I haven't had a floppy drive in any of my machines for years
[03:15] <kimo> Fee^: if so, u just need to dist-upgrade
[03:15] <Fee^> kimo: yeah.. wondering if it is actually an upgrade.. the 5/23(5) LTS to what came out today
[03:15] <grimboy> dooglus, Why are you intent on being mean about that guy?
[03:15] <rackerz> can somebody tell me if it's wise to save the sources.list automatix uses?
[03:15] <Paradoxx> anyone know of some good imaging software? I want to backup a windows installation and install ubuntu
[03:15] <RandolphCarter> snoops: :P then get a bootcd, Sysrescuecd has FreeDOS on it, the fdisk from there can repair it
[03:15] <ivoks> dr_willis: ah, update-manager -d is much nicer :)
[03:15] <Fee^> ok, so that answers my question, i've been dist-upgrading every night
[03:15] <GnarusLeo> Hi, can anyone please descrive how I update my kubuntu breezy to newest dapper? I still want my kde and all :) Anyone?
[03:16] <dr_willis> rackerz:  its not wise to use automatix at ALL.
[03:16] <kimo> Fee^: just "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y'
[03:16] <theine> rackerz: it's wise to not use automatix at all
[03:16] <dooglus> grimboy: I'm not.  Just someone said the page was sexy.  I'm terribly sorry if that's you.
[03:16] <ompaul> antibios, it may work well on your machine we have seen it break often on many machines - we see on an on going basis, and the only solution for some people is to reinstall that is not a stable application
[03:16] <rackerz> how come? it's works well on Dapper apprently.
[03:16] <Most_Wanted> uh update manager ?
[03:16] <theine> dr_willis: :)
[03:16] <Frogzoo_away> Paradoxx: acronis true image is the best imo - then nortong ghost next
[03:16] <snoops> RandolphCarter.. thanks I think I'll just wait for a fix to come out - like a different cd
[03:16] <dr_willis> rackerz:  100's of reasons. Just say no.
[03:16] <rackerz> so i shouldn't save the sources.list automatix uses?
[03:16] <antibios> razerz if you save the source list then the programs that you donwloaded will be able to be updated... bt then you will have to update them each time you do apt-get update
[03:16] <snoops> I need to be able to use my xp install when I wake up, and the last thing I need is a screwed mbr
[03:17] <antibios> thanks ompaul
[03:17] <dr_willis> rackerz:  i would be doing a reinstall if you used automatix.
[03:17] <Paradoxx> Frogzoo_away: was hoping for somthing free, but i'll guess i can do with that
[03:17] <livingdaylight> rackerz; some say autocatix is problematic
[03:17] <kimo> Paradoxx: for a FOSS, try mondorescue
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> snoops: hmm, okay :/ it's really only five minutes work if you fancy trying it though, it comes in handy to know how to repair systems too :)
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> Hi, can anyone please descrive how I update my kubuntu breezy to newest dapper? I still want my kde and all :) Anyone?
[03:17] <Jowi> GnarusLeo: /msg ubotu upgrade
[03:17] <rackerz> hmmm. what would you suggest i used instead?
[03:17] <baby> i cannot copy and past anything to /usr/share/icons dir. How can i do it?
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> uh update manager GnarlyBob ?
[03:17] <dr_willis> automatix is very very poorly done in manmy ways
[03:17] <antibios> dr_willis what has been breaking in automatrix
[03:17] <grimboy> dooglus, Not me, but being a support guy for ubuntu would be alright compared to other support.
[03:17] <snoops> yep..but not at 1:14am on a work night RandolphCarter :)
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> GnarusLeo
[03:17] <Most_Wanted> sorry
[03:17] <dr_willis> rackerz:  learn how to install teh stuff yourself is the  best way
[03:17] <dr_willis> !automatix
[03:17] <Paradoxx> kimo: how good is it? have you used it before?
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me what an unhandeled page eeror at (add random sector here) means?
[03:17] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> well, it's the same sector every time...
[03:17] <grimboy> !easyubuntu
[03:17] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[03:17] <tuxtheslacker> but it just started breaking.
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> GnarusLeo: ask in #kubuntu
[03:17] <rackerz> i know how to install stuff myself, just takes me ages :(
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> snoops: ahh :P fair enough ^_^
[03:18] <Most_Wanted> !torrent
[03:18] <rixth> Wooop! I updated the main screenshot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29
[03:18] <kimo> Paradoxx: yep used it to bare metal restore Linux Fedora 5, (easy, works, havent used it on Windows though (but it say it's sup[ported))
[03:18] <dr_willis> rackerz:  do it once.. save your history  from the shell.. and then ya got your own script/notes :P
[03:18] <rackerz> ah, thanks dr_willis.
[03:18] <snoops> thanks though RandolphCarter...  :P i just notoced that last night.  that i had to fire up synaptic to install that java package.
[03:20] <Xymor> hey, anyonw got a ed2k link for the i386 dvd?
[03:20] <rackerz> so dr_willis would you suggest a re-install if i've used automatix?
[03:20] <Celestar> installer is slow as hell
[03:20] <pettman> is there a changelogg for dapper?
[03:20] <AJ004> hi
[03:20] <spikeb> !automatix
[03:20] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[03:20] <dr_willis> rackerz:  i think most of in here would suggest that.
[03:20] <AJ004> question:  I installed RC1, do i need to reinstall the final release?
[03:20] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[03:20] <spikeb> no AJ004
[03:20] <gnomefreak> AJ004: no just update
[03:20] <AJ004> or can i just use updater to get the final version
[03:20] <rackerz> this is different from the forums, alot of them there suggest automatix.
[03:20] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please tell me?
[03:20] <dr_willis> update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge
[03:21] <feisar> how's the driver support between amd64 and i386?
[03:21] <theine> AJ004: you can just upgrade
[03:21] <Saelynh> hello
[03:21] <AJ004> theine how?
[03:21] <javiolo> !flash
[03:21] <grimboy> For some reason the update is displaying all the upgrades via dialog. I think it's not upgraded my gnome
[03:21] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:21] <AJ004> update-manager -d?
[03:21] <AJ004> in terminal?
[03:21] <javiolo> hi
[03:21] <Most_Wanted> :S
[03:21] <Celestar> bah
[03:21] <gnomefreak> AJ004: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[03:21] <dr_willis> AJ004:  can ya think of anywhere else to tyope that? :P yes.. in a terminal..
[03:21] <phos-phoros> is anyone aware of any issues when upgrading from breezy to the latest dapper release while making use of update manager, and in having modified any mention of "breezy" to "dapper" within sources.list
[03:21] <Celestar> is there a non-ncurses based version of the installer?
[03:21] <Celestar> that one is slow as well...
[03:21] <phos-phoros> I mean, it is that simple, correct?
[03:22] <livingdaylight> will i have to reconfigure my linksys wireless pci card after dist-ypgrade?
[03:22] <chapium> AJ004: in the terminal, yes or thru gksudo.  Its similar to apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:22] <grimboy> dr_willis, alt-f2
[03:22] <gnomefreak> phos-phoros: yes
[03:22] <RandolphCarter> Celestar: you can use the LiveCD and install from there
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: you can also just update like you would normally do using synaptic
[03:22] <spikeb> Celestar, yes, the desktop cd
[03:22] <phos-phoros> gnomefreak, thanks.
[03:22] <gnomefreak> brb gotta test something
[03:22] <Celestar> spikeb: I mean just text based nothing GUI
[03:22] <Hattori> delnetwork u
[03:22] <AJ004> warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[03:22] <Celestar> spikeb: I have a 9600 baud serial connection .... I need something thin
[03:22] <javiolo> is there flash por ppc ?
[03:22] <AJ004> huh?
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: you only need update-manager if you upgrade to a new major releae
[03:22] <AJ004> should i ignore the warnings.warn?
[03:22] <rackerz> If I don't use the sources.list from automatix will the programs it install not be able to be updated?
[03:22] <theine> AJ004: don't worry about it
[03:23] <feisar> hmm
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> what happens if I cancel an upgrade with dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <spikeb> Celestar, then you're stuck with the ncurses installer
[03:23] <traveller> hm...can anyone tell me how i can enable YUY2 overlay using fglrx driver? tvtime works with the ati driver but not fglrx
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> er I mean update-manager?
[03:23] <AJ004> theine i was at rc1
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> tuxtheslacker: there be dragons
[03:23] <rackerz> If I don't use the sources.list from automatix will the programs it install not be able to be updated?
[03:23] <LinuxJones> tuxmaniac, unless it started installing packages...nothing
[03:23] <javiolo> is there flash por ppc ?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: don't go there
[03:23] <AJ004> theine doesnt look like any updates for final
[03:23] <javiolo> is there flash for ppc ?
[03:23] <grimboy> If I'm upgrading and it goes all weird will sudo apt-get upgrade save me?
[03:23] <ompaul> rackerz, well we see the fall out and are willing in particular to point to log files of irc that show the problems people have had with it - as it overwrites config files if it can't restore the originals it breaks badly and that can be a real problem for a new user.
[03:23] <AJ004> unless they came out yesterday
[03:23] <tuxtheslacker> RandolphCarter, I'm unfortunately being serious.... I am getting 14 k/s :-(
[03:23] <Fee^> kimo: apparently i'm current...it doesn't want to upgrade anything else :)
[03:23] <AJ004> and i didnt notice
[03:23] <theine> AJ004: then you can just do "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" or use synaptic
[03:23] <Xymor> dvd == server + desktop, right?
[03:23] <grimboy> javiolo, try crossover office or wine.
[03:23] <RandolphCarter> tuxtheslacker: ahh, if it's only downloading, you should be okay
[03:24] <Celestar> spikeb: guess I gotta be patient then :)
[03:24] <rackerz> ompual, thanks :)
[03:24] <Jowi> tuxtheslacker: depends on how far it has gone. if it has not installed anything yet it should be safe to cancel it.
[03:24] <fatalblu> ubuntu came out! how fabulous!
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Xymor, yes
[03:24] <Xymor> ok thanks
[03:24] <rackerz> looks like i'll be back later in 10 minutes then. install time!
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> how can I cancel it? hahahahaha!
[03:24] <dr_willis> rackerz:  now you see one of the issues with automatix.  its not by the actual ubuntu guys.. and now you are asking support questions for a script that they dident make. and  they suggest to not use. :P Gets on their nerves after a while.
[03:24] <theine> AJ004: there were very few updates in the last couple of days
[03:24] <javiolo> grimboy I though that wine dont run over ppc, is that right ?
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> should I just let it go?
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Xymor, type live at options for the live cd
[03:24] <Celestar> hm
[03:24] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: interrupting an upgradeis kind of dangerous unless you know the install phase hasn't started yet
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> or is this form of an upgrade unsafe?
[03:24] <kimo> Fee^: yeah ... updates stopped I think 1.5 days ago
[03:24] <ompaul> rackerz, when the software should just work - but its tackled badly, have a look at /msg ubotu easyubuntu but your much better off with the docs from help.ubuntu.com or the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <grimboy> javiolo, sorry I'm completely ignorant of other arcs
[03:24] <michaels> I just upgraded to Dapper and my mouse scrollwheel stopped working.
[03:24] <tuxtheslacker> thoreauputic, it hasn't.
[03:24] <javiolo> grimboy ok thanks
[03:24] <tubbie> guys, I'm runnign qemu with XGl here. and the qemu window is all transparent
[03:24] <Celestar> [   12.691250]  rtc_init: no PC rtc found
[03:24] <threat> where can I find the xubuntu or ubuntu PGP / GPG public key?
[03:25] <tubbie> I can hardly read the texts, any fix?
[03:25] <amd-64> hi all
[03:25] <rackerz> ok thanks guys :)
[03:25] <tuxtheslacker> I'll just let it go :-)
[03:25] <kimo> is this one big busy channel :)
[03:25] <Paradoxx> Is it possible in a SAFE way to resize a windows partition after install?...... I neeed to free p space for ubuntu
[03:25] <kspath> tubbie: quit screwing with xgl?
[03:25] <Fee^> kimo: its a big day :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic> tuxtheslacker: well, if you were using apt-get it would be safe to interrupt the download - not sure about the new method
[03:25] <michaels> help me. the upgrade killed my mouse scrollwheel. what do I do?
[03:25] <pio_> Hi
[03:25] <Celestar> I don't get the "Choose a language" screen
[03:25] <ompaul> !dualboot
[03:25] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:25] <joelbryan> anyone, does the install CD would be removed with only the installable Live CD?
[03:25] <Ng> Paradoxx: you could boot into a live CD and run parted, but no resizing is ever 100% safe, you should always take a backup first
[03:25] <jsestri2> Paradoxx: partion magic will do it
[03:25] <drayen> i've managed to funk up my apache2.conf and wanted to know where i could find a clean copy (nb, doing a --purge re-install isnt an option)
[03:25] <kimo> Paradoxx: ntfsresize
[03:25] <Xymor> i'll grab the dvd, my connection isn't fast enough for live installs :/
[03:25] <Celestar> I have 2 options: "English" and "C"
[03:25] <pio_> can you help my?
[03:25] <Celestar> :P
[03:25] <pio_> on my ubuntu
[03:26] <amd-64> Why ubuntu 6.06 doesn't have an option to install boot loader (Grub) ?
[03:26] <theine> Paradoxx: the safest way would probably be to use partition magic under windoes
[03:26] <Ng> drayen: download the .deb and extract it with dpkg-deb
[03:26] <LinuxJones> michaels, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only change mouse options.
[03:26] <thoreauputic> michaels:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose your mous options
[03:26] <tuxtheslacker> how do i cancel this update-magnager?
[03:26] <pio_> my openoffice menu widget and toolbart hide
[03:26] <theine> amd-64: it'll do that anyway
[03:26] <thoreauputic> LinuxJones: too fast :)
[03:26] <Tinned_Tuna> bah, I think I'll just reinstall from a CD when it's downloaded
[03:26] <amd-64> theine: too bad !
[03:26] <LinuxJones> Xymor, live will boot into the livecd not a network install
[03:26] <fatalblu> where do I get bonzai buddy?
[03:26] <vader> see you peoples later when the text slows down to where I can read it lol
[03:27] <michaels> LinuxJones, thoreauputic, my xorg.conf is set right, should I still run that?
[03:27] <adolson> fatalblu: lol
[03:27] <tubbie> kspath, I odn't even know if it is Xgl at all
[03:27] <tuxtheslacker> fatalblu, I hope that was a joke....
[03:27] <thoreauputic> vader: heh
[03:27] <drayen> Ng. ahhh cheers
[03:27] <theine> amd-64: why? would you like to use lilo?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> thoreauputic, I am tweeked out with nictine withdrawls and caffine :)
[03:27] <Celestar> damnit
[03:27] <Cas> fatalblu: you'll need wine for that
[03:27] <jsestri2> what do you have to do to get to the latest release if you were already running dapper? apt-get update/apt-get upgrade?
[03:27] <LinuxJones> *nicotine
[03:27] <Celestar> I'm stuck at the keyboard selection
[03:27] <Bilford> Ubuntu on Slashdot
[03:27] <thoreauputic> michaels: yes , just change the mouse
[03:27] <fatalblu> what? he's my friend, i need to get weatherbug for weather reports too!
[03:27] <Bilford> postitive posts
[03:27] <adolson> lol
[03:27] <RandolphCarter> jsestri2: exactly, although dist-upgrade
[03:27] <squid> #ubuntu-es
[03:27] <Celestar> I have no keyboard installed :S
[03:27] <thoreauputic> michaels: leave everything else as is
[03:27] <leoncio> hola
[03:27] <michaels> okay thoreauputic thx
[03:27] <javiolo> !es
[03:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:27] <jsestri2> RandolphCarter: apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:28] <RandolphCarter> jsestri2: bingo :)
[03:28] <theine> amd-64: i'm sure there's a way to not install grub, but i haven't tried the new installer yet
[03:28] <linchriss> is there some program like deamontools for linux?
[03:28] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: it's built-in
[03:28] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[03:28] <bobesponja> is the torrent tracker dead?
[03:28] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:28] <tuxtheslacker> does an unhandled page error mean that I have bad ram?
[03:28] <kspath> linchriss: apt-cache search keyword
[03:28] <amd-64> theine: I can find that option
[03:28] <Celestar> will ubuntu discover other OSes that are installed during the boot process and insert them in the grub menu?
[03:28] <phos-phoros> man, how I wish line6 would provide support for linux regarding their guitarport software/hardware.
[03:29] <jbroome> Celestar: yes
[03:29] <theine> amd-64: maybe try the server install
[03:29] <Celestar> jbroome: any OS? ;)
[03:29] <amd-64> theine: :-P
[03:29] <theine> amd-64: no, really
[03:29] <jbroome> Celestar: it found win2k on my dual boot laptop
[03:29] <dr_willis> linchriss:  you may want to state what that program does.
[03:29] <leoncio> when is availabel dropper
[03:29] <amd-64> theine: rite
[03:29] <jbroome> leoncio: now
[03:29] <RandolphCarter> dr_willis: it's for mounting ISOs
[03:29] <kestas> Celestar: any OS which is bootable
[03:29] <leoncio> where?
[03:29] <leoncio> jbroome, where?
[03:29] <Madeye> ubotu !logo
[03:29] <ubotu> Madeye: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <linchriss> it mounts a cdimage :)
[03:30] <theine> amd-64: i believe that will give you a minimal Ubuntu system, and one that is installed, just do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[03:30] <jbroome> leoncio: check the /topic
[03:30] <leoncio> jbroome, ok thanks
[03:30] <livingdaylight> leoncio: you mean Didier Dropper. He play for Chelsea you know?
[03:30] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: there should be an option to mount if you right click on the .iso file, failing that, http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/
[03:30] <michaels> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:30] <surface> !server
[03:30] <michaels> thoreauputic
[03:30] <Madeye> ubotu ubuntu logo
[03:30] <amd-64> theine: Okie
[03:30] <ubotu> Madeye: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> !debconf
[03:30] <psb154> ubuntu does not seem to install mount.cifs. This causes some mysterious samba read-only problems.
[03:31] <theine> amd-64: the text based installer that is used when you install Ubuntu server gives you more options I believe
[03:31] <surface> !desktop
[03:31] <linchriss> ok thanks RandolphCarter ;)
[03:31] <ubotu> The Desktop CD is the live CD with an install option
[03:31] <Celestar> kestas: good
[03:31] <tuxtheslacker> how do i get my repos back to stock?
[03:31] <leoncio> livingdaylight, yea
[03:31] <chapium> Hey everyone!  Want to help ubuntu out?  Start seeding some of those torrents
[03:31] <MacSlow> gee... you can see the forum-member count grow constantly atm
[03:31] <tuxtheslacker> I used update-manager -d and I cancelled when it was getting the repo lists.
[03:31] <sshrdp> ubotu fglrx
[03:31] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <AJ004> what is the next ubuntu after 6.06?
[03:31] <psb154> MacSlow I noticed that :-)
[03:31] <livingdaylight> leonicio; Ubuntu Dapper is going to win teh Wolrd Cup!
[03:31] <Jowi> linchriss: additional site in case you need. it is quite simple: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2524172
[03:31] <AJ004> there is no mention of anything past dapper
[03:31] <tubbie> any howto to run 2 X server?
[03:32] <baby> how can i add new icons to kubuntu. i downloaded a new icon pack and there r folders like 128x128 48x48 also there is a index.desktop so i created a folder in /usr/share/icon and coppied them in it but i cant see those icons on KDE customize?
[03:32] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: reboot and see for urself, probably nothing though :)
[03:32] <michaels> what do I do about that debconf error?
[03:32] <kestas> edgy eft
[03:32] <kestas> 6.10
[03:32] <kimo> tubbie: simple (X :1)
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> tubbie: xserver-xephr
[03:32] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, what?
[03:32] <Ng> AJ004: there is a conference soon to discuss it, there's little point talking about it until that has happened
[03:32] <Celestar> hm .. I could seed a torrent
[03:32] <meddlepal> Is Daps out?
[03:32] <MacSlow> AJ004, "Edgy Eft"
[03:32] <kspath> meddlepal: /topic
[03:32] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, what was that an answer to?
[03:32] <AJ004> thanks
[03:32] <linchriss> thanks again RandolphCarter
[03:32] <AJ004> ill google on edgy eft
[03:32] <livingdaylight> meddlepal; Dapper is Dope!
[03:32] <kimo> tubbie: or startx -- :1
[03:32] <MacSlow> AJ004, that the new codename for the new unstable branch
[03:32] <RandolphCarter> linchriss: np's :) good luck
[03:33] <grimboy> livingdaylight, OH NOES, we don't have a chance without warty, he has a broken wrist.
[03:33] <SV> how do i upgrade from 5 to 6 ?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> michaels: close any other instances of apt or aptitude or synaptic etc
[03:33] <theine> tuxtheslacker: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto and substitute "dapper" for "breezy"
[03:33] <fatalblu> they should name the one after etch 'Frisky Ferret'
[03:33] <meddlepal> ah schweet
[03:33] <kspath> !upgrade
[03:33] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[03:33] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: u cancelled while getting list, so probably nothing is wrong
[03:33] <michaels> thoreauputic: don't think I have any open. I did before but I closed it.
[03:33] <meddlepal> hopefully my 5.10 upgrade goes smoother than the 6.06 RC one I did
[03:33] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, the little button in the corner is flipping out that it has 1011 upgrades that it can't install....
[03:33] <uma> hi
[03:34] <mau> hi
[03:34] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, just click yes.
[03:34] <kimo> tuxtheslacker: why don't u want to continue ?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> michaels: is your update completely configured and finished?
[03:34] <Celestar> ok guys I'm seeing
[03:34] <theine> tuxtheslacker: why can't you install them?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> michaels: I suspect it wasn't
[03:34] <tuxtheslacker> kimo, I'm getting  5 kb/s
[03:34] <theine> tuxtheslacker: oh...
[03:34] <Madeye> weird, I'm trying to find high resolution copy of ubuntu logo but cant find any!
[03:34] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, go make a cup of tea.
[03:34] <tuxtheslacker> I have the cd at 66%
[03:34] <michaels> thoreauputic: I think it wasn't... it gave me some error and shut down near the end...
[03:34] <phos-phoros> heh
[03:35] <mauti> hi
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: the config process can take quite a while
[03:35] <Celestar> hm
[03:35] <grimboy> hey mauti
[03:35] <phos-phoros> and I thought 124k/s was a pain
[03:35] <Celestar> installation seems stuck at a blue screeen ...
[03:35] <Celestar> :P
[03:35] <nathansnook> hello
[03:35] <MacSlow> Madeye, there are vector-based version of it on the live/install CDs/ISOs
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: hmm - try  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:35] <spikeb> !lart phos-phoros
[03:35] <mauti> Hello any first impressions of dapper drake yet ? I have just started downloading the iso image
[03:35] <RandolphCarter> Celestar: alt+f4 should take you to a log I think (alt+f1 to get back)
[03:35] <thoreauputic> michaels: or run  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:35] <grimboy> phos-phoros, why do I get a sudden urge to stab you with a fork?
[03:35] <Madeye> MacSlow, ohh thank you I didnt know that
[03:35] <tuxtheslacker> I should just blow the system away and see if that isn't the better thing to do :-P
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> can someone send me a screenshot of the stock desktop?
[03:36] <michaels> thoreauputic: did -f install: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[03:36] <dr_willis> mauti:  its the same as the earlier releases.. :P works good.
[03:36] <gumpish> oh, so they decided to release it after all?
[03:36] <phos-phoros> grimboy, I have no idea...why do you get a sudden urge to stab me with a fork?
[03:36] <Astinus-> tuxtheslacker: looks same as 5.10
[03:36] <grimboy> tuxtheslacker, look at wikipedia
[03:36] <pio_> Openoffice icons are vanishing in gnome
[03:36] <Celestar> lets hope I'm not getting in to trouble for torrenting ...
[03:36] <Mark_> i simply cannot start the installation program, because during boot there is a problems with the cdrom. i get error like bad block. anyone?? had rpoblems with booting the cd (desktop 6.06)?
[03:36] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/desktop.png
[03:36] <grimboy> phos-phoros, I'm getting 2.8kb/s
[03:36] <gnomefreak> michaels: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:36] <thoreauputic> michaels: did you try  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   as well? Sometimes that fixes things...
[03:36] <phos-phoros> ouch
[03:36] <lucasvo> Celestar: why should you?
[03:36] <tuxtheslacker> what version of firefox ships with dapper?
[03:36] <kestas> Mark_: check MD5, burn again
[03:36] <scheuri> Mark_: problems during download? bad burning program?
[03:37] <spikeb> 1.5.0
[03:37] <Ocult> hello.. i cant change my screen resolution.. just in breezy
[03:37] <Jowi> Mark_: check the md5
[03:37] <Ocult> why ?
[03:37] <spikeb> .3
[03:37] <Celestar> lucasvo: just because I'm eating up bandwidth @ work :P
[03:37] <lucasvo> Celestar: ah
[03:37] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: MD5 was correct, i burned with nero
[03:37] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:37] <michaels> thoreauputic: just did, it only told me what packages were held back (and I'm uninstalling them now since they're not important)
[03:37] <Celestar> lucasvo: but ok, since our mirror down
[03:37] <Jowi> Mark_: try with another media
[03:37] <RandolphCarter> Ocult: the Gnome resolution config will only offer resolutions that are in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <mauti> UBUNTU Rocks!! Why don't they give the directions in the main page itselves?
[03:37] <theine> Ocult: how do you try to change the screen resolution?
[03:37] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it with a slower rate
[03:37] <kestas> Mark_: try burning slower
[03:37] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: and i had the same problem with RC
[03:37] <grimboy> Yay, a firefox that isn't crappy and old.
[03:37] <Ocult> >thefish<: system. preferences. screenresoltion
[03:37] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, but not 100% sure if that's before or after updates once you did a fresh install.
[03:37] <thoreauputic> michaels: so you still can't use dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: atm I have 65kbit upload
[03:38] <kestas> Mark_: could it be an HDD problem?
[03:38] <michaels> thoreauputic: will try again in a sec
[03:38] <Ocult> ((theine)): system. preferences. screenresoltion
[03:38] <mauti> theine: try ctrl+alt+(plus on your keypad)
[03:38] <thoreauputic> michaels: sounds like a lock file that needs removing
[03:38] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it with 8x or max 16x
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: somewhere near 250kbyte here
[03:38] <thefish> Ocult: ??? mistype?
[03:38] <michaels> thoreauputic: still the same problem there
[03:38] <tuxtheslacker> MacSlow, Just so long as there's a 1.5 series I'm happy :-) and once it updates :-P
[03:38] <Ocult> [theine] : all be strange..
[03:38] <cef> hrm.. the torrents are going well. over 683 GiB downloaded according to the tracker.. though the tracker seems to have stopped answering web requests for me
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: well I am at home
[03:38] <charlotte> :)
[03:38] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: i cannot imagine, im doing it with a kubuntu cd though, but i think it doesnt matter
[03:38] <Ocult> [theine] : in breezy that work good
[03:38] <jordan> Seveas, sorry - I got dropped for a while... what were you saying about updating freenx for the dapper libs?
[03:38] <[HUN] Big_T> hi ubuntu users! :)
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: 10 GBps pipe :)
[03:38] <theine> Ocult: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and hit enter until you reach the screen where you can change the screen resolution
[03:38] <MacSlow> tuxtheslacker, I constantly updated my system form badger to dapper starting some months ago
[03:38] <lucasvo> Celestar: cool
[03:38] <scheuri> charlotte: time to convert your landlord...:)
[03:38] <Celestar> lucasvo: pity the workstation is stuck with 100MBps :P
[03:38] <charlotte> haha i doubt he will
[03:39] <kork> the ubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso torrent isn't in good shape...
[03:39] <Jowi> Mark_: if you're using cdrw media, i would even test at x4. my cdburner act up sometimes
[03:39] <thoreauputic> michaels: OK - I'm not sure which file is the lock file for that but I think that is likely the problem
[03:39] <cef> ahh. 695GiB now
[03:39] <jordan> Seveas, I added the dapper repo, then did an update
[03:39] <charlotte> i only use windows for photoshop now
[03:39] <Mark_> Jowi, kestas, scheuri: i will try a ubuntu cd and burn it slower... should i try another burning program?
[03:39] <Celestar> lol
[03:39] <theine> Ocult: try the dpkg-reconfigure thing and i'm fairly sure the gnome tool will then work as expected too
[03:39] <Celestar> I'm downloading at 2.5MB/sec :o
[03:39] <michaels> thoreauputic: what is a lock file?
[03:39] <Ocult> [theine] : it work in livecd ?
[03:39] <cef> kork: same here.. there isn't enough seeds currently.. but it's getting better
[03:39] <scheuri> Mark_: try burning it slower first before changing programm
[03:39] <tuxtheslacker> charlotte, now I only use windows for my webcam I just bought :-(. that thing ticks me off like no other!
[03:39] <SV> i don't see the dapper upgrade in my update manger
[03:39] <leoncio> the torrent is bad
[03:39] <theine> Ocult: oh, you're using the live CD?
[03:39] <Mark_> scheuri, okay
[03:39] <scheuri> Mark_: and use CD-R instaed of CD-RW
[03:39] <Fabricio> ola....alguem pode me ajudar
[03:40] <Malith> Ubuntu
[03:40] <kspath> !br
[03:40] <leoncio> hola Fabricio
[03:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> michaels: it's a file that stops a process interfering - in this case with dpkg
[03:40] <grimboy> Celestar, That's actually 1000 times faster than me.
[03:40] <JoeyB2> I'm getting 110kB/s down with the torrent.. 2.5 more hours  :P
[03:40] <mauti> Celestar: good for you. Here it is like 64kpbs
[03:40] <Mark_> scheuri, yes i use imation CD-R
[03:40] <scheuri> Mark_: ah, okay
[03:40] <thoreauputic> michaels: a safety lock if you like
[03:40] <Celestar> mauti: what version? i386 ?
[03:40] <SV> someone ?
[03:40] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, what torrent is bad?
[03:40] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:40] <michaels> thoreauputic: got it
[03:40] <scheuri> kspath: that was spanish, wasnt it?
[03:40] <Ocult> ((theine)): if i install the same problem happen
[03:40] <Madeye> MacSlow, Do you know where in the CD these images live ? the only images I found the splash .pcx and debian logo
[03:40] <Ocult> Hey, theine: i just cant understand why in breezy i dont have this problem
[03:40] <Mark_> scheuri, isnt there a way to check the cd from windows?
[03:40] <charlotte> hey i had a problem with installing ubuntu to this machine with the iso and installed it as data and was ok but my other machine had a problem with both and i want to put kubuntu on the other one and i've chosen the one for for lower ram to see if it'll work ok. i was just wondering if anyone had tried to install kubuntu on a slow machine and suceeded?
[03:40] <javiolo> scheuri no
[03:40] <kork> cef: you can actually watch how the data gets from the 2 seeds to the faster peers :)
[03:40] <leoncio> tuxmaniac, the torrent that is in www.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Malith> Mi ubuntu es bueno. Gracias amigo.
[03:41] <Mark_> scheuri, like doing a md5 on iso
[03:41] <MacSlow> Madeye, in the "Examples" directory on the desktop once you booted into the live-cd
[03:41] <cef> kork: hehe
[03:41] <rixxon> i broke ubuntu :(
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, I got mine from somewhere else :-(
[03:41] <theine> Ocult: i'm sure it'll work one you install Ubuntu to hard disk
[03:41] <kork> 34,5% now
[03:41] <grimboy> rixxon, me too.
[03:41] <michaels> thoreauputic: well, after the upgrade crashed, I restarted and it seemed pretty much stuck on shutting down. all I had was my wallpaper and mouse cursor and no computer activity indicated on the lights. so I pressed the power button. may have interfered with something there.
[03:41] <tuxtheslacker> leoncio, I'm still downloading it though.
[03:41] <SV> i don't see the new upgrade in my update manger,what to do ?
[03:41] <mauti> Celestar: it is Pentium 4 356 MB RAM
[03:41] <rixxon> 'Software index is broken'
[03:41] <scheuri> Mark_: there might be...but bruning it slower very likely will solve the problem...as long as md5 of your iso you download is fine, it should be okay
[03:41] <Ocult> [theine] : but u know this problem i said ?
[03:41] <cef> leoncio: there's a lot of torrents there. which image?
[03:41] <scheuri> javiolo...sorry then
[03:41] <thoreauputic> michaels: oops
[03:41] <mauti> Celestar: how about yours?
[03:41] <grimboy> rixxon, hey, you were on last night.
[03:41] <rixxon> i can't apt-get or install automatic updates
[03:41] <theine> Ocult: no, but i have a feeling
[03:41] <Madeye> MacSlow, ah I don't have the live
[03:41] <Celestar> mauti: ok I've started seeding i386 as well.
[03:41] <Mark_> scheuri, ah okay thx, so did this problem already occur before?
[03:41] <rixxon> grimboy: probably? im always here. i have no life. :(
[03:41] <Celestar> :)
[03:41] <Madeye> MacSlow, if you got the live can you send em to me ?
[03:41] <leoncio> cef, i386, ubuntu desktop
[03:41] <grimboy> heh
[03:41] <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:42] <thoreauputic> michaels: I fear you may have some corrupted file system problems therer
[03:42] <thoreauputic> *there
[03:42] <MacSlow> Madeye, take a look in some of the OpenOffice documents... there are several... somewhere there is a a non-bitmap-based ubuntu-logo with the typical catch-phrase afaik
[03:42] <Celestar> mauti: UltraSparc T1 here
[03:42] <SV> ????
[03:42] <scheuri> Mark_: yes...sort of...it is always an issue with CD-Rs and burning them with high speed (and then using them on different CD-devs)
[03:42] <MacSlow> Madeye, hm... got to mount it one sec
[03:42] <mauti> Celestar: thanks but i am downloading ISOs. Bittorrents are taking twice the time :(
[03:42] <cef> leoncio: what was wrong with it? refused connections or ?
[03:42] <Malith> FUCK UBUNTU IN THE ASS
[03:42] <michaels> thoreauputic: so what do I do?
[03:42] <grimboy> What do I do when I start up and there's no gnome
[03:42] <Frogzoo_away> !tell mauti about torrent
[03:42] <theine> Ocult: really, don't worry about, if it still doesn't work after you installed Ubuntu, and I'm sure there are many people who'll be able to help you resolving the problem
[03:42] <grimboy> Malin``,  I agree
[03:42] <lucasvo> !ops
[03:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:42] <leoncio> cef, yes
[03:42] <Celestar> mauti: they shouldn't
[03:43] <Hobbsee> lovely.
[03:43] <Krank> I am still can't boot from the desktop cd, getting that "hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[03:43] <Mark_> scheuri, ah great, i burned it with 48x so maybe that is it
[03:43] <Krank> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 156349" MD5's match
[03:43] <Ocult> theine: thanks
[03:43] <scheuri> Malith: thanks for your input...now watch your language
[03:43] <Celestar> can't I tell the installer that do NOT want to create a user?
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> mauti: 100kB/s here :D
[03:43] <thoreauputic> michaels: try  sudo shutdown -R -H now ( should fsck the disk on reboot)
[03:43] <Madeye> MacSlow, Thank you dude
[03:43] <scheuri> Mark_: I guess it was...quite likely...
[03:43] <leoncio> cef, ok sorry now is ok
[03:43] <cef> leoncio: just try again.. it's damn busy.. over 1500 downloaders
[03:43] <ompaul> scheuri, hes is gone - lonnnng gone
[03:43] <scheuri> ompaul....arrr...I am too slow....
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> !tell leoncio about torrent
[03:43] <michaels> thoreauputic: what exactly does that do?
[03:43] <Frogzoo_away> !tell scheuri about torrent
[03:43] <thoreauputic> michaels: aargh - wrong sorry
[03:43] <charlotte> has anyone installed kubuntu successfully on 128mb ram and pentium 2?
[03:44] <Cass> talking about fsck, how do you stop ubuntu fscking the drive on boot every 30 reboots ..  that just annoys me
[03:44] <ompaul> thoreauputic, -F
[03:44] <tuxtheslacker> how cna I go back on my repo listings?
[03:44] <jdmpike> charlotte, it will run great!
[03:44] <CrippsFX> how do I change the login screen?
[03:44] <krazykit> charlotte: it'd work, but it would be kinda slow.  you'd really want 256 for a happy time, at least
[03:44] <thoreauputic> michaels:  shutdown -r -F now
[03:44] <tuxtheslacker> I need to go back to breezy....
[03:44] <Corey_> hey guys
[03:44] <cef> leoncio: no probs.. it happens.. quite a load on the torrent tracker
[03:44] <ompaul> Cass, you don't want to do that
[03:44] <Corey_> some of my games arent working when i try to load them
[03:44] <charlotte> its for an old machine
[03:44] <grimboy> charlotte, try #kbuntu
[03:44] <Cass> ompaul, yes i do
[03:44] <thoreauputic> ompaul: thanks - just checked it in the man :)
[03:44] <rixth> How can I recover rm'd stuff from ext3?
[03:44] <Intangir> omg, its dapper day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:44] <charlotte> im running ubuntu on this one but it's a powerful pc
[03:44] <jdmpike> charlotte, turn off the flashy stuff
[03:44] <ak7> charlotte, xubuntu might work better...
[03:44] <Corey_> like.. tuxracer normally worked but now its not..
[03:44] <michaels> thoreauputic: is "now" part of that command?
[03:44] <grimboy> charlotte, you'll need the traditional install cd
[03:44] <PreZWork> dapper day? heh
[03:44] <krazykit> rixth: you don't, really.
[03:44] <rixxon> would a dist-upgrade take down if on RC?
[03:44] <Celestar> *slowly* I do not want to create a user account :S
[03:44] <Trae> heh
[03:44] <Intangir> #ubuntu+1 is gone ;)
[03:44] <erez> hi, if i were using dapper beta, all i need to do now in order to upgrade is update && upgrade && dist-upgrade , right?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> michaels: yes
[03:45] <scheuri> Cass: I secnd that...you DONT want to avoid that
[03:45] <michaels> thoreauputic: and what does it do?
[03:45] <charlotte> im downloading the kubuntu for 192mb ram or lower
[03:45] <Intangir> does anyone know of a good CVS integration for nautilus?
[03:45] <Trae> Intangir, yeah, I was wondering the same thing, I was like, where is my #ubuntu+1 tab... heh.
[03:45] <Frogzoo_away> !tell erez about torrent
[03:45] <ompaul> Intangir, that is because dapper is release
[03:45] <grimboy> charlotte, You'd be better off with icewm or xfce
[03:45] <thoreauputic> michaels: it tells the system to do it right now, and reboot (r ) and fsck ( F)
[03:45] <Frogzoo_away> !tell charlotte about torrent
[03:45] <Cass> scheuri, and again, yes i do ..  is there someting i am missing apart from the fsck just annoying me
[03:45] <charlotte> right...
[03:45] <kork> rix/wc
[03:45] <rixth> krazykit, they were not overwritten. I heard somone earlier ask the same question and they were told about a program.
[03:45] <Intangir> Trae: ya i was like.. i dont remember leaving the channel ;)
[03:45] <kork> lol
[03:45] <thoreauputic> michaels: checks your filesystem
[03:45] <Trae> heh
[03:45] <harobed_> where is "mc" in dapper ?
[03:45] <claes> erez, Yes
[03:45] <ubuntu> hello?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !mc
[03:45] <gumpish> Is there any sort of big picture emerging from this chaos? Are clean installs good but upgrades broken? Vice versa?
[03:45] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[03:45] <Intangir> does #ubuntu forward to #ubuntu-1 ;)
[03:45] <scheuri> Cass: for clarification...are you aware what fsck is doing?
[03:45] <wheelswitch> why is Frogzoo_away telling everyone about torrent?
[03:45] <ubuntu> any body?
[03:45] <kspath> harobed_: apt-cache search mc
[03:45] <michaels> thoreauputic: cool. will do. thanks.
[03:45] <grimboy> ubuntu,  hey
[03:46] <erez> claes: thanks
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Intangir: other way around
[03:46] <ubuntu> ubuntu is perfect!
[03:46] <Celestar> bah
[03:46] <Intangir> no i say minus 1 hehe
[03:46] <matti> ;p
[03:46] <Frogzoo_away> wheelswitch: cos the repos are gonna die, that's why
[03:46] <Celestar> ktorrent is acting up with seeding :S
[03:46] <Cass> scheuri, yes i know exccatly wehat fsck is doing .. i just dont need it every 30 boots
[03:46] <charlotte> im loving the new ubuntu
[03:46] <harobed_> kspath, no found
[03:46] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: modest too, evidently ;)
[03:46] <grimboy> ubuntu, a bit full of yourself today.
[03:46] <Intangir> ubuntu rules ;)
[03:46] <ubuntu> -h
[03:46] <ubuntu> help
[03:46] <rixxon> hokey i fixed my broken ubuntu... by reading the error description! :D - coming from windows used to ignoring tose
[03:46] <Intangir> ive been waiting for this day for quite a while hehe
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Intangir: #ubuntu+1 is closed dapper support is in here now
[03:46] <Corey_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:46] <Corey_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:46] <charlotte> i just wanted to play about with kubuntu without using live cd haha
[03:46] <Intangir> its like a holiday
[03:46] <grimboy> ubuntu, /help
[03:46] <scheuri> Cass: okay...there is a way to manipulate that...but I must admit that I forgot...it is in the settings for your filesystem...
[03:46] <gnomefreak> Corey_: use sudo
[03:46] <krazykit> Corey_: sudo
[03:46] <Corey_> i did
[03:46] <thoreauputic> !tell Corey_ about root
[03:46] <Corey_>  sudo apt-get  update && apt-get  upgrade && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[03:47] <rixxon> Corey_: sudo apt-get ...
[03:47] <scheuri> Cass: I am sure that google will help you there...
[03:47] <squid> #ubuntu-mx
[03:47] <grimboy> ubuntu, or !topic
[03:47] <kspath> harobed_: mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[03:47] <hypnox> Cass, if every 30 boots is a problem, you reboot too much. Edit your /etc/fstab to change the frequency
[03:47] <rixxon> Corey_: sudo before each command
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Corey_: you missed the second sudo
[03:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:47] <Corey_> ok
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Corey_: you have to use sudo in each command
[03:47] <scheuri> hypnox: is it in fstab? not really AFAIK
[03:47] <cef> getting quite sick of the few bugs I find in nautilus. hopefully they'll be gone from the version in dapper (upgrading on the weekend as I need this pc to work tomorrow)
[03:47] <rixxon> thoreauputic: and the third
[03:47] <rixth> It was just a few 200mb videos anyywa
[03:47] <thoreauputic> rixxon: indeed :)
[03:47] <grimboy> Corey_, or sudo -sH
[03:47] <gnomefreak> Corey_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is all you need
[03:47] <rixxon> :)
[03:47] <RandolphCarter> Corey_: sudo bash -c 'apt-get  update && apt-get  upgrade && apt-get  dist-upgrade', or put a sudo before each command
[03:47] <ompaul> Cass, you do, however I will tell you that I really resist your request, so all I am willing to show you is that the information you want is in "man fstab"
[03:47] <Some_Person> Hey, I'm still using Breezy, and I can't get usplash to display. Is there a script file on ubuntu that runs on startup that I can add "usplash" to/
[03:47] <Corey_> alright thanks
[03:47] <rixxon> grimboy: sudo -i
[03:47] <Cass> hypnox, its a laptop i use, it reboot at least twice a day
[03:47] <charlotte> my galeon browser kept crashing
[03:47] <Corey_> some of my games arent working now
[03:47] <Corey_> why is that
[03:47] <kspath> harobed_: mc is part of universe
[03:47] <grimboy> rixxon, oops.
[03:48] <charlotte> seems fine with this beta version of the new one
[03:48] <Corey_> they wont start up
[03:48] <charlotte> i dunno
[03:48] <charlotte> maybe its my pc
[03:48] <Celestar> ktorrent seems kinda crappy
[03:48] <Some_Person> By the way, I use LILO (and don't try to make me switch)
[03:48] <sladen> Some_Person: sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:48] <cef> Corey_: which games? can you give examples?
[03:48] <Corey_> tuxracer
[03:48] <Corey_> scorched 3D
[03:48] <Corey_> torcs
[03:48] <Corey_> trigga
[03:48] <Corey_> blender 3D
[03:48] <grimboy> Some_Person, but lilo doesn't begin with a g.
[03:49] <thoreauputic> !enter
[03:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:49] <ompaul> !enter
[03:49] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:49] <Cass> ompaul, dont worry about me .. i will find the answer, i am a experianced solaris Sysadmin and i know whats what, i dont need a fsck on boot when i quickly want to get on line .. thanks for the clue about fstab, i just dodnt see the setting for this inside
[03:49] <sladen> RandolphCarter: the correct way is to put sudo before each.  Please use that method if you're showing other peple
[03:49] <tuxtheslacker> can someone PLEASE tell me how exactly I would go about setting my repos back to breezy repos?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Corey_: stop it with the enter key, please
[03:49] <Some_Person> E: The update command takes no arguments
[03:49] <cef> Corey_: all use OpenGL. Most likely you haven't got OpenGL working or your video card doesn't support it. what video card do you have?
[03:49] <jbroome> tuxtheslacker: replace the word dapper with breezy
[03:49] <kspath>  /ignore Corey_
[03:49] <RandolphCarter> sladen: I think your definition of 'correct' is a bit absolute, but okay
[03:49] <hypnox> Cass my bad, have a look at man tune2fs
[03:49] <sladen> tuxtheslacker: edit /etc/apt/sources.list   change all the 'dapper' into 'breezy'
[03:49] <Celestar> lol
[03:49] <ompaul> Cass, its in the man page about "column 6 afik"
[03:49] <jbroome> tuxtheslacker: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:49] <sladen> RandolphCarter: thanks
[03:49] <Celestar> 25 leechers on i386-desktop :P
[03:49] <AJ004> i just installed easyubuntu
[03:49] <samu> What's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[03:49] <AJ004> now which features should i enable?
[03:49] <Some_Person> so?
[03:49] <jbroome> i just took a shower
[03:49] <hypnox> tuxtheslacker where it says dapper, replace with breezy
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> all right, what's the deal with upgrading to Dapper through the Update Manager?
[03:50] <kspath> samu: two letters?
[03:50] <sladen> samu: one puts up a graphical password box
[03:50] <gnomefreak> samu: gksudo is used for running gui apps
[03:50] <mauti> Celestar: I am not one of them. ;)
[03:50] <grimboy> samu: gksudo is pretty
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> I can't get this to work at all.
[03:50] <Cass> hypnox, ompaul .. thanks
[03:50] <AJ004> what is PLF repository?
[03:50] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: what can't you get to work?
[03:50] <Corey_> some of my applications arent working why is that ?
[03:50] <samu> Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
[03:50] <kspath> samu: man sudo;man gksudo
[03:50] <sladen> Corey_: what applications?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004, penguin liberation front file stores
[03:50] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update -u $(uname -r)
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: I click "Check", it says my system is up to date.
[03:50] <Corey_> mostly 3D games
[03:50] <Corey_> and blender 3D
[03:50] <thoreauputic> !plf
[03:50] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf , mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[03:50] <AJ004> cass should i enable all repositories?
[03:50] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: and I do have the newest Update Manager.
[03:50] <Some_Person> E: The update command takes no arguments
[03:50] <grimboy> Corey_, Drivers?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004, i do
[03:50] <Corey_> im not sure possibly
[03:50] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: where do you click check?  what applications aren't working?
[03:50] <czambran81f> Does anybody know how come there are no updatesm and the final version already came out?
[03:50] <Cass> AJ004,  well for what i need
[03:51] <Corey_> I need one for an ati card where do i get ?
[03:51] <Corey_> its an old ati card
[03:51] <bliss_>  after apt-get update whats the next line to upgrade to 6.06?
[03:51] <krazykit> Corey_: what model?
[03:51] <grimboy> !tell Corey_ about ati
[03:51] <Some_Person> is there a script file in Breezy that runs on startup that I can add "usplash" to?
[03:51] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: in the Update Manager, as explained on the wiki.
[03:51] <charlotte> oooh i need one for my ati too
[03:51] <hypnox> bliss_ apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <Celestar> mauti: you should be :P
[03:51] <sladen> Some_Person: it's run from initramfs.  add 'usplash' to the kernel command line
[03:51] <grimboy> !tell charlotte about ati
[03:51] <sladen> Some_Person: or just  sudo apt-get install usplash
[03:51] <bliss_> hypnox: thanks
[03:51] <AJ004> ok downloading em now :)
[03:51] <tuxtheslacker> thanks all!
[03:52] <viS_> hi,  i just installed ubuntu 6.06 and i'm getting these weird notification sounds sometimes.
[03:52] <krazykit> Corey_ and charlotte, in general, you use the open source "ati" driver for a 9200 and below, and the fglrx driver for the cards newer than that
[03:52] <claes> Cass, Is it the 30 reboot fsck you want to change? Then look at: man tune2fs
[03:52] <Some_Person> what is initramfs?
[03:52] <viS_> anyone know why?
[03:52] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: I'm still missing the big picture.  what is happening that shouldn't happen?
[03:52] <Corey_> ok well its a 320M
[03:52] <Some_Person> usplash is installed
[03:52] <charlotte> nice one!
[03:52] <krazykit> !tell krazykit about ati
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: that should upgrade my system, or so the wiki claims.
[03:52] <Cass> claes, cheers, im reading that just now
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: in reality, nothing happens.
[03:52] <Some_Person> samuel@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install usplash
[03:52] <kspath> viS_: It wants more attention.
[03:52] <SV> why i don't see dapper drake in the update manager ?
[03:52] <grimboy> What do I do when ubuntu is broken and I'm stuck in the shell?
[03:52] <Some_Person> Password:
[03:52] <Some_Person> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:52] <Some_Person> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:52] <Some_Person>
[03:52] <melodie> hello, do someone know if jigdo for alternate i386 is ok to upgrade an iso of desktop i386 ?
[03:52] <viS_> kspath: what wants attention?
[03:52] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades <-- "Upgrading with the Update Manager"
[03:53] <grimboy> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i'm having trouble getting my wireless working via networking scripts
[03:53] <claes> SV, run sudo update-manager -d
[03:53] <MacSlow> Madeye, ok think I found it
[03:53] <AJ004> ubuntu still has some bugs from before
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Some_Person: no pasting , please
[03:53] <AJ004> which havent been fixed
[03:53] <Celestar> share ratio exceeds 1.00 :P
[03:53] <SV> thanks
[03:53] <tuxtheslacker> thanks all!?
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i can iwconfig key restricted mykey + ifconfig essid myap and get an ip via dhcp fine
[03:53] <tuxtheslacker> AJ004, such as?*
[03:53] <sladen> WAHa_06x36:   gksudo update-manager -d
[03:53] <spafbnerf> however, doens't work w init scripts
[03:53] <grimboy> thoreauputic, that was a bit strong.
[03:53] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: what's that do?
[03:53] <spafbnerf> i hav specified:
[03:53] <Cass> wow there is some amount of traffic on this chan ..  busy busy busy !!
[03:53] <spafbnerf> wireless-essid myap
[03:53] <Some_Person> sorry, but its only 6 lines
[03:53] <thoreauputic> grimboy: I removed it
[03:53] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker:  When you click on next or finish in a dialog box sometimes you have to click it twice
[03:53] <grimboy> oh
[03:53] <nekromaan> hello, is there a kernel-headers for 2.6.15-23-386, cause i cant find it with apt-get?
[03:53] <hypnox> hmm, update-manager should be updated so it offers dapper
[03:54] <spafbnerf> and wireless-key restricted s:mykey
[03:54] <thoreauputic> grimboy: the chan is very busy atm too
[03:54] <spafbnerf> ??? wtf ? :(
[03:54] <viS_> kspath: it doesn't show anything graphical
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker:  And www.blogger.com crashes the system
[03:54] <Reinhart> is it just me or is ubuntuforums.org very flaky today?
[03:54] <claes> Running update-manager -d remote over an ssh tunnel. Hope this will work. :-)
[03:54] <tuxtheslacker> AJ004, it does?
[03:54] <tuxtheslacker> ahahahhaha! I have to check that out!
[03:54] <Some_Person> now, what file do i add "usplash" to?
[03:54] <Celestar> hm
[03:54] <krazykit> thoreauputic: as an op, do you have some control over ubotu?  because there should really be a note that the 9200 cards and below can use the open source driver
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker yep
[03:54] <sladen> Some_Person: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:54] <AJ004> tuxtheslacker ill try it after easyubuntu, could be the fonts
[03:54] <sladen> Some_Person: really, it should be installed by default
[03:54] <Corey_> guys I have an old ati card that is shared memory
[03:54] <thoreauputic> krazykit: you cn change ubotu factoids
[03:54] <Corey_> I need a driver for it..
[03:55] <nclife> woot, ubuntu dapper drake is already out?
[03:55] <nclife> o.o
[03:55] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: "Your system is up-to-date"
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> krazykit: upto 9600 can be used with the experimental support in xorg 7
[03:55] <sladen> Corey_: driver "ati"
[03:55] <thoreauputic> krazykit: e.g. " no, blah is ..... corected version
[03:55] <kspath> krazykit: /msg ubotu help
[03:55] <grimboy> nclife, you don't say
[03:55] <ak7> nclife: snuck up on me too :)
[03:55] <thoreauputic> krazykit: do it in /msg though
[03:55] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: grep dapper /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <Corey_> where do i put that thoe ?
[03:55] <nclife> heh
[03:55] <krazykit> right, thoreauputic kspath and h3sp4wn, i'll put that in the notes :-)
[03:55] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: nothing.
[03:55] <Some_Person> But I use LILO
[03:55] <Madeye> MacSlow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please :D
[03:56] <czambran81f> With the finally release did any additional updated came out???
[03:56] <Lyst9> ...
[03:56] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: edit that file.  change all the  'breezy'  into  'dapper'    then  sudo apt-get update
[03:56] <Celestar> installation is SLOW :(
[03:56] <Some_Person> How do you add usplash to LILO?
[03:56] <highvoltage> isn't there a better way to do it these days?
[03:56] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: great, I installed Ubuntu so I wouldn't have to edit files in /etc/.
[03:57] <SeMBoY> why cant i join ubuntu+1 ?
[03:57] <Some_Person> Hello?
[03:57] <SeMBoY> ;(
[03:57] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: It's not that scary or dangerous.
[03:57] <Lynoure> SeMBoY: it no longer exists, new one will be at some point
[03:57] <runes> is there a way to modify the adduser so that it creates subfolders under the user folder?
[03:57] <void^> gah. each and every time i use gnome i find myself disabling the gnome-terminal keybindings that collide with irssi.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> SeMBoY: because it doesnt exit yet.
[03:57] <Celestar> how would the world work without torrents?
[03:57] <WAHa_06x36> Lynoure: it's annoying. I'm a programmer, I can do this shit, I just don't WANT to.
[03:57] <Some_Person> It redirects here
[03:57] <rixxon> SeMBoY: because dapper is now officially released
[03:57] <kspath> runes: write a script that uses adduser?
[03:58] <SeMBoY> okei
[03:58] <SeMBoY> ?
[03:58] <hypnox> runes yes, see /etc/adduser.conf
[03:58] <ompaul> !language
[03:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:58] <Some_Person> HOW DO I ADD USPLASH TO lilo?
[03:58] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: the instructions in that document, *should* install a new breezy version of update-manager;  which then should allow you to upgrade the distribution to dapper.  did you restart the application after install the new version of update-manager?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> void^: yeah, it's annoying
[03:58] <kspath> runes: write your own version of adduser?
[03:58] <SeMBoY> but i have ubuntu dapper ;( so no one will help here?
[03:58] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: several times.
[03:58] <sladen> Some_Person: put  'usplash'  on the end of the arguments
[03:58] <chapium> X is showing a wave pattern on my screen, causing sections every other inch to appear slightly blurred.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:58] <tuxtheslacker> can someone please tell me if unhandled page fault is a bad ram error? or what it is?
[03:58] <MacSlow> Madeye, do you want the whole "Example"-directory? About 19 MBytes uncompressed.
[03:58] <Cass> SeMBoY, dapper is in final now, this is the chan for hep
[03:58] <sladen> WAHa_06x36: what version of update-manager do you have installed?   Can you find out the version?
[03:58] <thoreauputic> void^: I use rxvt or urxvt with irssi
[03:58] <ompaul> SeMBoY, dapper is now released, therefore this channel is now for dapper
[03:58] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: :) I guess it's a matter of opinion. One thing I loved aout debian was that I could edit all the configuration files
[03:58] <Some_Person> sladen: where?
[03:58] <runes> hypnox and kspath I don't know what to put in the adduser.conf so that it grabs the user $ and creates the folder
[03:58] <WAHa_06x36> sladen: I also checked with synaptic that I've got the newest version.
[03:59] <Some_Person> sladen: what file?
[03:59] <SeMBoY> Nice
[03:59] <Madeye> MacSlow,  if you can upload it somewhere it would be cool dude
[03:59] <hypnox> runes then you'll have to read the documentation, wotn you
[03:59] <WAHa_06x36> Lynoure: isn't the point of Ubuntu that you don't need to do that?
[03:59] <Madeye> MacSlow,  but my email wont handle such big attachment
[03:59] <void^> thoreauputic: yes, i use urxvt usually :)
[03:59] <Yorgos> hi
[03:59] <chapium> yo
[03:59] <thoreauputic> void^: great minds ;-)
[03:59] <Yorgos> how can i use my logitech quickcam camera with my ubuntu?
[03:59] <SeMBoY> hello i have tvout problem -i have setup in xorg.conf -but does not show on tv
[03:59] <runes> hypnox I did it only shows the default names it creates based on what adduser looks for
[03:59] <Doso> http://krunch.servebeer.com/~krunch/vrac/pics/ubuntu-logo.jpg (:
[03:59] <kspath> people do not seem to want to read manual pages, it is so hard...
[03:59] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: I'm newish to ubuntu (less than 3 months), so I'm not sure what the point is, yet.
[03:59] <Some_Person> sladen: what file do I add "usplash" to?
[04:00] <Corey_> how do i configure what driver i have for my video card ?
[04:00] <sudomania4> in firestarter, what is the difference between allowing connections and allowing services?
[04:00] <Yorgos> anyone knows?
[04:00] <Lynoure> WAHa_06x36: I think e.g. Suse is was more gui happy than Ubuntu but that is based on the situation with Suse years ago
[04:00] <hypnox> WAHa_06x36 try later, update-manager may work by then.
[04:00] <ompaul> !webcam
[04:00] <ubotu> webcam is probably now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:00] <Some_Person> What is xubuntu?
[04:01] <Most_Wanted> !xubuntu
[04:01] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[04:01] <bruce89> ubuntu + xfce
[04:01] <sudomania4> in firestarter, what is the difference between allowing connections and allowing services?
[04:01] <Some_Person> oh
[04:01] <bruce89> - gnome!
[04:01] <sladen> Some_Person: /etc/lilo/lilo.conf   or something?
[04:01] <gil> how do i set up ubunto to use my built in 6-in-1 card reader
[04:01] <kspath> sudomania4: research firestarter and basic networking.
[04:01] <bruce89> which version?
[04:01] <fatalblu> sacrifice your ssh keys to the Linux gods!
[04:01] <SeMBoY> i was setting up tvout from ubuntu wiki website -and all worked well - and i did not see any error in x server -and i can see on tv -and than the stuff happins when i login to my user oi can see on tv its like black screen what is the problem someone so kind help me out
[04:01] <Lynoure> gil: in my case it was as simple as sticking a card in...
[04:01] <snoops> heanol
[04:02] <snoops> hey I tried again
[04:02] <ompaul> gil, pop a card in it and type >sudo fdisk -l<< and see if it reads it
[04:02] <snoops> still absolutely no go
[04:02] <MacSlow> Madeye, takes a few moments to upload... stand-by.
[04:02] <Lynoure> gil: then the card got mounted automatically.
[04:02] <bruce89> gil : in Dapper anyway
[04:02] <Some_Person> !paste
[04:02] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[04:02] <snoops> I mean it feels like an absolute major problem to me
[04:02] <mauti> !paste
[04:02] <gil> yes...i want it to mount authomatically
[04:02] <jlmr> hi
[04:02] <snoops> which is so surprising that it wasn't found out before the cds
[04:02] <Madeye> MacSlow, few moment for 19mb ? you must be lucky dude, I live with 512 only :(
[04:03] <jlmr> i have a simple question
[04:03] <runes> hypnox all the documents refer to are DHOME Grouphomes
[04:03] <spafbnerf> ok, fuckit, i make my own script for wireless cz i don't understand wots rong w the standard one.... ;)
[04:03] <eXistenZ> hello, what's the difference between text and OEM mode
[04:03] <jlmr> i would like to install dapper, but first i want to know how to make the installer leave my MBR alone..
[04:03] <kspath> sudomania4: hint: most services have specific port numbers and some people run "servers"/"daemons"
[04:03] <jlmr> ?
[04:03] <ompaul> mauti, so it was said a couple of seconds ago in the channel please msg the bot /msg ubotu paste << that will help a lot
[04:03] <hypnox> runes if you want to do sometihng that isnt supported in adduser then you will have to figure it out some other way i guess
[04:03] <mauti> jlmr: what do you mean, it overwrites the MBR?
[04:04] <snoops> jlmr, it doesn't even seem to touch my MBR.
[04:04] <snoops> which is the problem.
[04:04] <jlmr> im not sure it does, but i dont want it too
[04:04] <jlmr> to*
[04:04] <jlmr> good
[04:04] <michaels> thoreauputic: well, I did that restart and then I could do the reconfigure thingy for x. but I still can't use the scroller to scroll. it works, it can set zoom together with control and all the nice stuff it's supposed to do, except it can't scroll up and down.
[04:04] <aperez> jose
[04:04] <jlmr> so if i install, i can use ntldr to load ubuntu?
[04:04] <runes> hypnox can you suggest a good link to documentation on this aside from the man pages? I tried google but all the links refer to are default config.
[04:04] <jlmr> instead of using GRUB to load windows