[04:29] <barrydk> More almal
[05:09] <Padroni> HI barrydk
[05:28] <Padroni> h spinza
[05:31] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:40] <Padroni> hi
[05:40] <Padroni> how are you?
[05:45] <mazal> Ok thanx and you Padroni
[05:45] <Padroni> good thanx
[05:45] <Kilos> morning mazal  barrydk  Padroni
[05:45] <Padroni> it's Thursday
[05:45] <Padroni> hi kilos
[05:45] <mazal> More oom
[05:45]  * Padroni is back to his game
[05:46] <Kilos> lol
[05:49] <Padroni> and I am back
[05:49] <Padroni> the only custom game now worth playing
[05:49] <Padroni> is at night
[05:49] <Padroni> I can't see where the damn tanks are to bomb them
[05:49] <Kilos> ai!
[05:49] <Padroni> And I keep on near-missing the cliffs
[05:50] <Kilos> oi
[05:57] <Kilos> Padroni  you spoke about 2 things to make sites with , one was frontpage, what was the other?
[05:58] <Padroni> Publisher
[05:58] <Padroni> MS Publisher
[05:58] <Kilos> i look through my pile of books and found frontpage 2000
[05:58] <Padroni> but using those are the equivalent of installing Win8
[05:58] <Padroni> real developers will laugh at you...
[05:58] <Kilos> read about 5 pages in and saw it was ms frontpage and put it down
[05:58] <Padroni> good man
[05:59] <Padroni> eish
[05:59] <Padroni> I need to reboot after a update installed
[05:59] <Padroni> this usually means I need to use boot-repair again
[06:00] <Padroni> let's wee what happens
[06:00] <Kilos> my niece studied all that stuff years ago, then gave me her books when she went to namibia
[06:00] <Kilos> lol
[06:00] <Kilos> wait
[06:00] <Kilos> did you do boot-repair from the pc not a stic
[06:01] <Padroni> I bootrepair from a stick
[06:01] <Padroni> I should probably just install it on my pc
[06:01] <Padroni> will do so now
[06:01] <Kilos> you dont read what i tell you
[06:02] <Padroni> I would prefer it NOT to use UUID for boot
[06:02] <Padroni> but haven't gotten round to figuring that part out
[06:02] <Kilos> just install boot-repair on your pc and run it
[06:03] <Kilos> i will tell you a story when you get back
[06:05] <Kilos> morning cocooncrash  you up early
[06:05] <Kilos> or up late i think
[06:06] <Kilos> he used to say cocooncrash  never sleeps, then he got married
[06:06] <Padroni> i am still here
[06:06] <Kilos> arent you going to reboot
[06:07] <Padroni> I have more than one pc, sir
[06:07] <Padroni> the one I am chatting on is not the one I am working on
[06:07] <Kilos> i used to run 4 drives in this pc
[06:07] <Kilos> boot-repair sorted all the boot probs but
[06:08] <Kilos> i had to follow the grup menu thing to choose
[06:08] <Kilos> when the first drive packed up i couldnt boot from the others
[06:09] <Kilos> then worked out that if i wanted to use one of the others boot-repair had to be run from the one i was using as primary
[06:10] <Padroni> ah
[06:12] <Kilos> so after much fiddling i found you can go to the drive you want to use and then either reinstall grub-pc i think it was or start boot-repair and when it got to the place where it says recommended repair i unplugged the other drives and just did the repair on the on i was on
[06:12] <Kilos> doing it that way made each drive independand of the others for boot info
[06:13] <Kilos> then update-grub just added then into the grub menu again but each one could be bootable independantly
[06:18] <Kilos> otherwise it wants to soo the drive you ran boot-repair from
[06:18] <Kilos> s/soo/see
[06:20] <Padroni> I will look into it
[06:20] <Padroni> the thing is, I don't have a lot of time on my hands
[06:21] <Padroni> and that pc runs 24/7
[06:21] <Padroni> so it will have to be some weekend when I don't have any dev work to do
[06:21] <Kilos> then just do boot-repair from it
[06:21] <Kilos> i used to move drives around all the time, thats why i found the hassle
[06:22] <Kilos> even running aptitude reinstall grup-pc should work
[06:24] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[06:24] <nlsthzn> o/ uncle Kilos
[07:10] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:10] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[07:15] <SDCDev> Hey Kilos
[07:59] <Kilos> morning superfly
[08:03]  * Padroni waves and begs maaz for coffee
[08:03] <Kilos> lol
[08:03] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[08:03]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:03] <Kilos> just ask maazcoffee please
[08:04] <Padroni> I have the pleasure of going through a server looking for the cryptophp backdoor
[08:04] <Padroni> becaus - in an effort to save money
[08:04] <Kilos> you have a choice with or without cremora and milk as well
[08:04] <Squirm> morning
[08:04] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[08:04] <Padroni> people will rather install WP / Joomla templates they can get for free on Nulled sites
[08:04] <Padroni> than buy the f*cking thing
[08:05] <Kilos> soe
[08:05] <Kilos> sjoe too
[08:05] <Kilos> peeps dont all have money
[08:05] <Kilos> Maaz  with cremora
[08:05] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[08:05] <Kilos> Maaz  and milk
[08:05] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[08:05] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee for all
[08:05] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[08:06] <Padroni> hey Maaz
[08:07] <Padroni> do something with your life - come fetch my cup and refill it
[08:07] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:07] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[08:07] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:07] <Kilos> Maaz  rusks please
[08:07] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[08:42] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[08:43] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[08:43] <Kilos> ohi Kerbero  hows things
[08:46] <Kilos> hi magellanic
[08:47] <magellanic> heya
[08:49] <magellanic> if anyone wants to catch a repeat of our scaleconf talk: http://www.meetup.com/Cape-Town-SPIN/events/221097641/
[08:49] <magellanic> next Wed evening in town (Cpt)
[09:07] <Kilos> wb spinza
[09:25] <Padroni> anyone here run their own web server?
[09:25] <Padroni> I have a question
[09:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope
[09:25] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy Nice move adding the /spawn in so peeps can see it immediately. and your reactor switch rocks" 18 hours, 3 minutes and 59 seconds ago
[09:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> we run hundreds for other people, but none of my own :-p
[09:25] <Padroni> lol
[09:26] <Padroni> figured you would come up with a jab my side
[09:26] <Padroni> tell me - any issues wtih CryptoPHP that you've picked up?
[09:26] <Padroni> and if so - how to you find / remove?
[09:26] <Padroni> *do
[09:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> never heard of it
[09:27] <Padroni> it's a botnet
[09:27] <Padroni> almost exclusively installed via nulled WP / Joomla templates / plugins
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> I guess our clients are good at keeping updated
[09:28] <Padroni> keeping updated isn't relevant here
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> last time we had any sort of remote exploit it was an old version of moodle on an old version of PHP
[09:30] <Padroni> what platform do you guys host on?
[09:30] <Padroni> Linux / Win ?
[09:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> debian
[09:31] <Padroni> ok
[09:34] <Padroni> FYI
[09:34] <Padroni> https://foxitsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/cryptophp-whitepaper-foxsrt-v4.pdf
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> tl;dr pay for your themes
[09:38] <Padroni> indeed
[09:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> our team don't deal with the small "mom-n-pop shop" type sites, so I doubt we'd have an issue with this
[09:39] <Padroni> you guys do servers only?
[09:39] <Padroni> ie, not normal hosting, just dedicated servers?
[09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> not exactly
[09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> so you get shared hosting, where you get some web space and mail
[09:40] <magespawn> good day all
[09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> and you get dedi where its much the same except you aren't sharing
[09:40] <Padroni> hi magespawn
[09:40] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:40] <mazal> lo magespawn
[09:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> dedi allows for a little bit of customisation but not a lot
[09:41] <Padroni> I know
[09:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> then we have the truserv, which is the root server, we give you hardware, you do what you want on it
[09:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> my team is somewhere between that and a managed dedi
[09:41] <Padroni> ah ok
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> so we take one or more truservs and fully manage it for you, with more flexibility in customisation
[09:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.hetzner.co.za/customhosting
[09:44] <Padroni> That new datacentre of yours is pretty
[09:44] <Padroni> #jealous
[09:45] <magespawn> that is funny
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> ?
[09:46] <Padroni> I saw the article on the broadband forums
[09:46] <Padroni> quite an impressive place.
[09:46] <magespawn> i see yuppiechef is a hetzner customer
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure what is so funny
[09:46] <magespawn> squirm works for them, small world
[09:47] <Squirm> magespawn: indeed we do
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh right :)
[09:48] <magespawn> mildly amusing, ;)
[09:53] <Kilos> ai! now trello gold hits us
[09:54] <Kilos> i cant even keep up with the plastic one
[10:08] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: What does DE stand for at the traffic section of the web hosting ?
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> Deutschland
[10:08] <mazal> k
[10:09] <mazal> Looking at some of that web hosting packages of yours , very good
[10:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> hosting at Hetzner Germany is mostly a hold-over from the days when international traffic was insanely expensive, so if you had something with mostly non-local users you could host it in Germany for cheaper, but still deal with the local support/billing/etc team
[10:14] <mazal> The only thing I can't seem to see is how much international bandwidth one get
[10:15] <mazal> I'm on this page btw : http://www.hetzner.co.za/webhosting/business/basic
[10:15] <superfly> ohi
[10:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is no distinction between local and international bandwidth
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://www.hetzner.co.za/dedicated-servers/buyersguide/data-centres, video tour thingy added for those who may be interested
[10:36] <magellanic> interesting.
[10:59] <Kilos> hi Zafig
[11:00] <Zafig> hi Kilos
[11:00] <Zafig> Can you please perhaps advise me on an 'issue'?
[11:01] <Kilos> if i can one of the other will
[11:01] <Kilos> whats the prob
[11:01] <Zafig> Thanks
[11:01] <Zafig> i cannot use my system-config-samba
[11:02] <Zafig> I'll post my output from terminal
[11:02] <Zafig> david@david-MS-7817:~$ gksudo system-config-samba
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 45, in <module>
[11:02] <Zafig>     mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 82, in __init__
[11:02] <Zafig>     self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 185, in __init__
[11:02] <Zafig>     self.parseFile ()
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 225, in parseFile
[11:02] <Zafig>     token = self.createToken (line, section)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 310, in createToken
[11:02] <Zafig>     name, value = line.split ("=", 1)
[11:02] <Zafig> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[11:02] <Zafig> david@david-MS-7817:~$
[11:02] <Zafig> david@david-MS-7817:~$ sudo system-config-samba
[11:02] <Zafig> [sudo] password for david:
[11:02] <Zafig> (system-config-samba:3775): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/david/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[11:02] <Zafig> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> use http://slexy.org for big chunks of text please
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 45, in <module>
[11:02] <Zafig>     mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 82, in __init__
[11:02] <Zafig>     self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 185, in __init__
[11:02] <Zafig>     self.parseFile ()
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 225, in parseFile
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> ugh
[11:02] <Zafig>     token = self.createToken (line, section)
[11:02] <Zafig>   File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 310, in createToken
[11:02] <Kilos> Zafig  you should paste that kind of stuff at http://pasteboard.co
[11:02] <Zafig>     name, value = line.split ("=", 1)
[11:02] <Zafig> ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[11:02] <Zafig> david@david-MS-7817:~$
[11:03] <Trixar_za> Use pastebin :|
[11:03] <Kilos> Zafig  copy paste all of that on http://pasteboard.co
[11:03] <Kilos> then just give the link here
[11:03] <Zafig> okay I'll try, thanks, hang on I do it now
[11:04] <Zafig> I've just gone to your link KIlos, on pastboard, but cannot see what to do next
[11:04] <Zafig> Oh, must I use an image?
[11:04] <Kilos> you paste all the info into it then tick submit
[11:04] <Kilos> no text is good
[11:04] <Zafig> does it take 'text'?
[11:04] <Kilos> yes
[11:05] <Kilos> oh i have the wrong thing i think
[11:05] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info
[11:05] <Kilos> thats the one sorry
[11:05] <Zafig> okay thanks, I'll try new link
[11:06] <Zafig> okay here is the link:
[11:06] <Zafig> http://bin.snyman.info/9zw4u
[11:06] <Kilos> cool ty now you have to be patient till someone that understand it can sort it for you
[11:07] <Zafig> thanks, thats okay, I'll hang on ...
[11:10] <magellanic> sounds like an invalid config file, did you manually edit it at some point?
[11:11] <magellanic> pastebin the config (note the bin, not here) :p
[11:16] <Zafig> yes i did manually edit. How do I call up the config file, as a text?
[11:17] <magellanic> use gedit or kedit or something
[11:17] <mazal> or nano
[11:18]  * Kilos likes nano
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> vim!
[11:18] <Zafig> thanks. sorry, but whats the full samba config name
[11:18] <Kilos> lol vim is for clever peeps
[11:18] <mazal> I think it's /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> "I've been using vim for 23 years. Mostly because I can't figure out how to exit it" -- Anonymous
[11:18] <Zafig> ty
[11:19] <Kilos> lol
[11:20] <magellanic> or, run testparm, might point to where the issue is quicker
[11:21] <Zafig> http://bin.snyman.info/93s87
[11:21] <Zafig> sorry for the delay ...
[11:22] <magellanic> share_u_2_u, looks like it might have needed to be [share_u_2_u]
[11:22] <Zafig> I manually changed/added the lines, 261 to 268
[11:23] <Zafig> must I put it in square brackets?
[11:23] <magespawn> lol @ ThatGraemeGuy
[11:23] <magellanic> Zafig: yes
[11:23] <Zafig> okay, ty, I'll give it a go
[11:24] <Kilos> Zafig  you should hang out here more often, one learns just by watching others sort things
[11:28] <Zafig> Thanks, I tried to edit it using this command: gksudo gkedit /etc/samba/smb.conf, but it wont work
[11:29] <magellanic> then use vim :p careful though, it's like hotel california, you can check out, but you can never leave :D
[11:30] <magespawn> should that not be "sudo gedit ..."
[11:30] <Zafig> okay,not sure if I've got vim installed
[11:30] <Zafig> ok, i'll try sudo gedit ...
[11:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://vim-adventures.com/ is for all you vim noobs :)
[11:31] <magellanic> "adventures" you say
[11:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> its a game that teaches you vim keys
[11:32] <magellanic> ah
[11:32] <Zafig> I tried the sudo gedit .... and it worked
[11:32] <magellanic> need one that does sublime and android studio shortcuts rather
[11:32] <magellanic> :D
[11:32] <magespawn> awesome
[11:32] <Zafig> the SQUARE BRACKETS were the answer, it now works!
[11:33] <Zafig> Thanks a lot you blokes!
[11:34] <Zafig> Without yout input I'd never have worked it out.  Gotta get on now, its been a very helpful pit-stop ....
[11:34] <Zafig> so all the best and cheers til next time
[11:37] <Kilos> lol
[11:37] <Kilos> well done magellanic
[11:39] <magellanic> was a simple issue, it's gonna be a long road ahead for him...
[11:39] <Kilos> shame
[11:40] <magellanic> it's all good, it's worth the struggle, and we'll help
[11:41] <Kilos> ya but better if peeps hang here rather than only coming when they need help
[11:42] <magellanic> depends, I go into chans on freenode to ask, then chuck :p
[12:23] <Kilos> oh my @BodyDivineSA following ubuntuza on the tweet plce
[12:50] <Kilos> hi drussell  hows davy and co.
[12:50] <drussell> Kilos: good! you?
[12:50] <Kilos> good ty
[12:53] <Kilos> wb Padroni
[12:53] <Padroni> hi
[12:53] <Padroni> ty
[13:01] <Padroni> odd
[13:01] <Padroni> nothing loads my side...
[13:01] <Padroni> ah
[13:01] <Kilos> such as?
[13:01] <Padroni> nvm
[13:01] <Padroni> we're back
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:02] <Kilos> wb Zafig
[13:02] <Zafig> ty
[13:03] <Zafig> Kilos, just wanted to tell y'all that my Samba home networking and printing is working well. Thanks for help!
[13:04] <Kilos> you are welcome. you can make this channel one of your favourites and maybe help the next guy
[13:05] <Zafig> thanks .... could be dangerous !!
[13:05] <Kilos> lol nono its dangerous when i help
[13:05] <Zafig> how do you make a favourite channel?
[13:05] <Kilos> im a greeter bot
[13:05] <Zafig> lol
[13:05] <Kilos> what irc client are you using
[13:05] <Zafig> xchat
[13:06] <Kilos> hmm... where you put in the channels to join you add what channels you want separated by a ,
[13:07] <Zafig> found it ... right clicked on the .... and there it was. Done
[13:07] <Kilos> cool
[13:07] <Zafig> ty
[13:08] <Kilos> yw
[13:08] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:09] <Zafig> TY, yep it certainly helps to have some kollective knowledge at hand in time of need ...
[13:09] <Kilos> yeah
[13:09] <Zafig> Ubuntu is great, but if you stray off the beaten track it can be daunting
[13:09] <Kilos> lol
[13:11] <Zafig> i'll be on my way again. Got try and sort some other issues. Might even come back here for them. Cheers for now and all the best ...
[13:11] <Kilos> anytime
[13:11] <Kilos> go well
[13:11] <Zafig> BFN, ty
[13:55] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos - I just created an underground greenhouse for growing wheat
[13:55] <Trixar_za> Except I went a little literal and used green light sources
[13:55] <Kilos> cool
[14:01] <Trixar_za> Also Kilos - been messing with it for like 2 hours and I'm only at 58MB
[14:07] <Kilos> thats better ya
[14:08] <Kilos> when its a big world like ours it will surely use more
[14:09] <Kilos> 3 reactors and maybe 4 quarries and so on
[14:09] <Kilos> and uv power to everyone
[14:13] <Kilos> hi kulelu88
[14:14] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro  sukkel julle nog steeds?
[14:17] <Trixar_za> Yeah, might be because of Technics and Mesacon mods. They're pretty heavy
[14:17] <inetpro> Kilos: uh?
[14:17] <Trixar_za> I openly avoid them since they're hell on servers
[14:20] <kulelu88> Hello
[14:20] <kulelu88> I installed minetest. what do I do now
[14:20] <kulelu88> somebody threw kaka on cecil rhodes statue in cape town :D
[14:21] <Kilos> lol
[14:22] <Kilos> you run the game then choose client and enter mt.donaldson.za.net in there and click connect
[14:24]  * inetpro needs help with Trello and JSON
[14:25] <Kilos> inetpro  you havent left any messages there
[14:25] <Kilos> i dunno json
[14:25] <kulelu88> no password for the server??
[14:26] <Kilos> nope its your choice. i dont use one
[14:26] <inetpro> Kilos: ah good idea, maybe if I add a 'To Do' then someone will help me
[14:26] <Kilos> maybe
[14:27] <Kilos> i look there first thing in the mornings
[14:27] <kulelu88> how long does it take to join? am I downloading something?
[14:27] <Kilos> but you need to get clever peeps with what you do
[14:27] <kulelu88> JSON is quite simple actually.
[14:27] <Kilos> ya its getting stuff
[14:27] <kulelu88> easier to understand than SQL
[14:31] <Kilos> kulelu88  the first login takes a while but not more than 5 mins
[14:32] <kulelu88> it's taking a long while
[14:32] <Kilos> what does it say? media
[14:32] <kulelu88> connecting to server
[14:33] <Kilos> no man something not right
[14:33] <Kilos> you put in mt.donaldson.za.net and next block should show 3000
[14:37] <kulelu88> oh no I used a different port
[14:37] <kulelu88> 3000 or 30000?
[14:37] <Kilos> 30000
[14:38] <Kilos> sorry
[14:38] <kulelu88> should my firewall be unblocking anything?
[14:38] <Kilos> is it still battling
[14:40] <kulelu88> perpetually connecting. what does it say after connecting to server??
[14:40] <Kilos> then it gets media
[14:40] <Kilos> did you get the latest minetest?
[14:41] <Kilos> mine logs in in about 15 seconds
[14:41] <kulelu88> im on .12 version
[14:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:41] <kulelu88> so it's the latest
[14:41] <Kilos> im on .11
[14:41] <kulelu88> let me unblock it from the firewall
[14:42] <Kilos> can it be the firewall?
[14:42] <kulelu88> blocking incoming port possibly
[14:44] <inetpro> kulelu88: I like simple, maybe I just need to get a push start
[14:45] <kulelu88> inetpro: are you also using a firewall? what rule did you add?
[14:45] <inetpro> What I would like is a simple way to get just a text listing from any Trello list of just the description in each card
[14:45] <inetpro> kulelu88: why?
[14:46] <kulelu88> oh different things we talking about @ inetpro
[14:46] <inetpro> oops...
[14:46]  * inetpro starts reading backlogs
[14:46] <kulelu88> inetpro: upload an example of the JSON and I will write you a script that does that
[14:46] <Kilos> inetpro  did you also get the email for trello gold?
[14:47] <Kilos> he cant get into our minetest game pro
[14:48] <kulelu88> eeh it was the firewall
[14:48] <kulelu88> i'm in now
[14:48] <Kilos> lol
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: at this stage I have a number of months of gold already
[14:49] <Kilos> oh my i just got the email today
[14:50]  * inetpro using trello for several other projects
[14:50] <inetpro> only realised later, every time I add another member email address and the person subscribes I get another month of gold
[14:51] <inetpro> kulelu88: are you on our trello list?
[14:52] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm not sure whether I really need gold though
[14:52] <inetpro> kulelu88: https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco
[14:52] <kulelu88> oom you ran away as I was about to come stab you
[14:53] <Kilos> no violence man
[14:53] <Kilos> lol
[14:55] <kulelu88> u left the place? I wanted to see how to build
[14:55] <Kilos> imthere man
[14:56] <inetpro> kulelu88: you can get the JSON of our board if you go to our board's Menu | Share, Print, and Export | Export JSON
[14:57] <Kilos> ya better do that first. ill logout mean time
[14:58] <kulelu88> inetpro: what would you like me to do here?
[14:58] <kulelu88> extract the descriptions?
[14:58] <inetpro> yes
[14:58] <kulelu88> okay shouldn
[14:58] <kulelu88> shouldn't be too hard. I'll write a Python script
[14:59] <kulelu88> but later
[15:00] <kulelu88> oom im on the bridge
[15:01] <inetpro> kulelu88: as in for the 'Current Activities' list I simply want a text listing as follows:
[15:01] <inetpro> - learn to use nikola and bzr
[15:01] <inetpro> - Connect Ubuntu LoCo Teams in Africa
[15:01] <inetpro> - build ubuntu-africa site
[15:01] <inetpro> - Make a walk-through for signing the Code of Conduct.
[15:01] <kulelu88> how do you want the output? in a .txt file ?
[15:02] <kulelu88> and in that format?
[15:02] <inetpro> .txt would be perfect
[15:04] <inetpro> with such a listing it would help to copy and paste into an email as a summary report to the mailing list at the end of the month
[15:04] <kulelu88> aah okay so .txt will be fine there.
[15:04] <inetpro> yes
[15:05] <kulelu88> so what I'll do is write a script that extracts the info from a .JSON file and outputs it to .txt
[15:05] <kulelu88> and I'll write a short description on how to run it
[15:05] <inetpro> cool
[15:07] <Kilos> kulelu88  /join #minetest-za
[15:07] <Kilos> i can stay in the game it eats data
[15:07] <Kilos> cant
[15:07] <kulelu88> oom is that another empty channel :D
[15:08] <Kilos> no man its our minetest channel
[15:08] <kulelu88> I know how to move, now I just need to learn how to build
[15:08] <Kilos> so we dont spam here
[15:09] <Kilos> you need tools
[15:09] <Kilos> then you need to pick a place where you want your house
[15:09] <Kilos> then you mine and then build with what you mine
[15:09] <Kilos> i can help with lots of stuff
[15:10] <kulelu88> when will everyone be on there??
[15:10] <Kilos> hardly ever.
[15:10] <Kilos> it eats too much data for 3g peeps
[15:10] <Kilos> but squiand them go on at night normally
[15:11] <Kilos> Maaz  seen squirm
[15:11] <Maaz> Kilos: squirm was last seen 5 hours, 23 minutes and 56 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-12 11:47:19 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-12 16:54:54 SAST
[15:11] <Kilos> oh my he gone too
[15:11] <kulelu88> I'll go back in there at night.
[15:11] <Kilos> anytime
[15:11] <Kilos> you work when you bored
[15:12] <Kilos> i have lots of stuff so go to my house and lets get you some tools
[15:16] <inetpro> hmm...
[15:17] <Kilos> inetpro  what now?
[15:17] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kulelu88 I added it as a ToDo item at https://trello.com/c/akP91lVs
[15:17] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[15:17] <inetpro> Kilos: he's away now
[15:17] <Kilos> ah
[15:17] <inetpro> :-)
[15:17] <Kilos> hehe
[15:18] <inetpro> but later is fine as well
[15:18] <inetpro> will be nice if we can have that functionality
[15:18] <Kilos> to make it text?
[15:19] <Kilos> for reports?
[15:19] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[15:19] <Kilos> how do you mean you get another month of gold when you add peeps
[15:19] <Kilos> this mail says its free
[15:20] <Kilos> is free for one month only
[15:21] <inetpro> Kilos: you've just become our Admin guy :-)
[15:22] <Kilos> nono
[15:22] <Kilos> i did nothing
[15:23] <Kilos> im like a greeter bot by locoteams as well
[15:23] <Kilos> ek word poegaai
[15:23] <inetpro> Kilos: I clicked on leave board and realised I could not exit because I was the only guys with admin rights
[15:23] <inetpro> guy*
[15:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:24] <Kilos> jou werk is jou werk
[15:24] <inetpro> check your Avatar
[15:25] <inetpro> has two little ^ marks now
[15:25] <Kilos> eish
[15:26] <Kilos> i dont see them so all good
[15:27] <Kilos> but adding me as admin is evil
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: got to https://trello.com/recommend
[15:27]  * inetpro has earned 7 free months (out of 12)
[15:27] <inetpro> go to as well
[15:27] <Kilos> no man my mail says its free
[15:28] <Kilos> Get Your FREE Trello Gold
[15:28] <inetpro> it's just annoying advertising, I also got one
[15:29] <Kilos> so if i get it free, then why bother about getting it month by month
[15:29] <Kilos> i dunno what the gold does though
[15:29] <inetpro> I just deleted that
[15:30] <Kilos> im bang it will add more work
[15:30] <inetpro> Kilos: RTFS
[15:30] <Kilos> ai!
[15:30] <inetpro> see the link above
[15:30] <inetpro> it tells you
[15:30] <Kilos> i read there
[15:30] <Kilos> but mail says its free so why try and earn it then
[15:31] <inetpro> ai!
[15:31] <Kilos> lol
[15:31] <inetpro> Kilos: it's an enticement to go click through
[15:31] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:31] <inetpro> clever advertising
[15:32] <Kilos> you just want to add more work for me, i know your evil ways
[15:32] <inetpro> with Trello Gold, you can upload files up to 250 megabytes in size
[15:32] <inetpro> we really don't need that
[15:32] <Kilos> nope who pays the data
[15:33] <Kilos> maybe the link above is old hat now they giving trello gold away for free
[15:34] <inetpro> Kilos: it is clickbait
[15:34] <Kilos> and i dont remember my login details
[15:34] <Kilos> ya you want to catch me with the clickbait
[15:34] <inetpro> Kilos: me?
[15:35] <inetpro> you didn't get the mail from me man
[15:35] <Kilos> well who gave the link above
[15:35] <inetpro> damn!
[15:35] <inetpro> wat verstaan jy nie oom
[15:35] <Kilos> you told them about me
[15:35] <inetpro> ?
[15:35] <Kilos> lol
[15:35] <inetpro> I'm trying to explain it to you, I'm not saying you should get gold
[15:36] <inetpro> we do not need gold
[15:36]  * inetpro don't need gold
[15:36] <Kilos> what will change with gold? do you see anything different to me
[15:36] <inetpro> if I want gold I will mine for it in minetest
[15:36] <Kilos> lol
[15:37] <inetpro> ai! Something wrong with his eyes?
[15:37] <Kilos> eye
[15:37] <Kilos> one blind and other one also cant see
[15:37] <inetpro> ai! Something wrong with his one eye?
[15:38] <Kilos> rofl
[15:38] <Kilos> i get we dont need gold so i go delete that email
[15:39] <inetpro> thank you
[15:39] <inetpro> Kilos: it's clickbait
[15:40] <Kilos> i dont know what clickbait is man
[15:40] <inetpro> content, especially that of a sensational or provocative nature, whose main purpose is to attract attention and draw visitors to a particular web page
[15:40] <Kilos> man clickbait says no man pages for clickbait
[15:41] <Kilos> only things i want free is my kde and airtime
[15:41] <inetpro> ok, maybe not quite sensational or provocative but it's a teaser
[15:41] <Kilos> ty i understand that now
[15:42] <Kilos> thats how they get peeps to open bad emails with bugs in?
[15:42] <inetpro> yebo yes, nou verstaan jy!
[15:42] <inetpro> it's the freemium model
[15:42] <inetpro> not open source
[15:43] <Kilos> oh
[15:43] <Kilos> just got a mail too that says Gustav H Meyer made you an admin on the board Ubuntu South Africa LoCo
[15:43] <Kilos> it never ends
[15:43] <inetpro> haha :-)
[15:43] <Kilos> didnt i say nono
[15:44] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel met my volk man
[15:44] <Kilos> im sure the lococouncil guys are getting tired of me there too
[15:45] <Kilos> oh locoteams
[15:46] <Kilos> some poor okey in asia unhappy with his loco so i told him to bomb them
[15:47] <Kilos> my magellanic  you still here
[15:47] <Kilos> ty we need the rain
[15:47] <Kilos> ai!
[15:47] <Kilos> magespawn
[15:58] <inetpro> Kilos: bomb them?
[15:58] <inetpro> ai!
[15:58] <inetpro> that's not nice
[15:58] <Kilos> yes put a lrge amount of explosives in their meeting room
[15:58] <inetpro> sjoe
[15:58] <Kilos> well they nasty to him
[15:59] <Kilos> lol
[15:59] <Kilos> no man im joking
[15:59] <Kilos> im sure you read what i said anyway
[15:59] <Kilos> you always scheming how to add more work
[15:59] <inetpro> no time to read today
[15:59] <Kilos> yay
[15:59] <Kilos> what is broken there
[16:00] <inetpro> overworked and underpaid :-)
[16:00] <inetpro> and moeg
[16:00] <Kilos> no man your 2 appies are3 offline
[16:01] <inetpro> oh, they're asleep
[16:01] <inetpro> thanks for reminding me
[16:01] <Kilos> the deep sleep?
[16:01]  * inetpro will talk to them tomorrow
[16:01] <Kilos> and tell them its now law to greet in the morning
[16:02] <inetpro> will tell them
[16:03] <Kilos> lol
[16:03] <inetpro> not sure they will listen
[16:03] <Kilos> tyake your plastic sjambok with
[16:06]  * inetpro needs the crocodile skin one of yours
[16:06] <Kilos> sea cow
[16:06] <inetpro> lol
[16:06] <Kilos> ive seem then strip skin off
[16:07] <Kilos> pote4nt things
[16:07] <Kilos> potent
[16:08] <inetpro> heh, we not allowed to promote violence here
[16:08] <Kilos> lol
[16:09] <Kilos> maybe i must apply for the council thing
[16:09] <Kilos> noone else seems to have time
[16:09] <Kilos> and its only ubuntu that suffers
[16:24] <magespawn> gotta gp home time. chat later
[16:24] <Kilos> ok magespawn
[16:24] <Kilos> go safe
[16:25] <Symmetria> R.I.P Terry Pratchett :(
[16:58] <Kilos> i go ea
[16:59] <Kilos> eat too
[17:20] <Kilos> gremble  wb
[17:20] <Kilos> hi captine
[17:21] <captine> hi there
[17:36] <captine> quiet in here tonight
[17:39] <Kilos> peeps still eating and resting i think
[17:40] <Kilos> and the pro is thinking i spose
[17:40] <Kilos> how he is gonna torment me more
[18:06] <magespawn> good evening
[18:07] <Kilos> hi mages
[18:07] <Kilos> ai!
[18:08] <magespawn> that classifies as an oops
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> wb
[18:09] <magespawn> ty
[18:09] <magespawn> happens when you have tabbed terminals open
[18:09] <Kilos> ah you hit the x
[18:15] <magespawn> something like that
[18:18] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[18:21] <Kilos> grumbles why you been so scarce man
[18:21] <Kilos> are you at least studying hard
[18:23] <magespawn> http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/n00bs-ctf-labs-infosec-institute/
[18:24] <magespawn> for those who want a bit of fun ^
[18:53] <inetpro> good evening
[18:53] <Kilos> yoohooo he got it right
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:53] <Kilos> lo my pro
[18:53] <Kilos> no what?
[18:54] <inetpro> 03/12 19:40:02 <Kilos> and the pro is thinking i spose
[18:54] <inetpro> 03/12 19:40:14 <Kilos> how he is gonna torment me more
[18:54] <Kilos> rofl id forgotten about that
[18:55]  * inetpro has enough other responsibilities
[18:55] <kulelu88> anybody playing minetest tonight?
[18:55] <Maaz> kulelu88: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell kulelu88 I added it as a ToDo item at https://trello.com/c/akP91lVs" 3 hours, 37 minutes and 31 seconds ago
[18:55] <kulelu88> Hey Maaz
[18:55] <Kilos> i was there just now to see if you were there
[18:55] <Kilos> kulelu88  there used to be guides on how to do things
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: how to do what?
[18:56] <Kilos> build stuff on minetest
[18:57] <inetpro> yikes! What happened to the guides?
[18:57] <Kilos> ive forgotten where to find them
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean like this? http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house
[18:58] <Kilos> http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house
[18:58] <Kilos> haha
[18:58] <Kilos> im too slow
[18:58] <inetpro> :-)
[18:58] <Kilos> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting
[18:59]  * inetpro can see google has become his friend
[18:59] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KBXRwNctI
[18:59] <Kilos> na spottys friend
[19:00] <Kilos> you know who spotty is hey inetpro  ?
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: you should add spotty to #minetest-za
[19:00] <Kilos> spotty is georgl_  s bot
[19:01] <Kilos> here tells me you not my boss
[19:01] <Kilos> wow they killed qa again
[19:01] <Kilos> blame squirm
[19:02] <inetpro> oh and Kilos, I see you gave some very good advice in locoteams
[19:02] <Kilos> oh did i
[19:03]  * inetpro is thinking he would make a awesome member of the council
[19:03] <Kilos> i havent enough service
[19:03] <Kilos> was looking at the requirements just now
[19:03] <inetpro> keep working on it
[19:04] <Kilos> and i havent the know how to evaluate tech input
[19:04] <inetpro> how so?
[19:05] <Kilos> like for example. evaluating packages and so on
[19:05] <kulelu88> I see raoul there
[19:05] <Kilos> technical contributions
[19:05] <Kilos> kulelu88  go see what he is doing
[19:10] <Kilos> wb Squirm
[19:10] <Kilos> you killed QA?
[19:10] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za
[19:11] <inetpro> uh
[19:11] <inetpro> Squirm = Trixar_za?
[19:11] <Kilos> Maaz  define uh
[19:11] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about uh. Maybe you meant H, u, Ugh, Puh, Ah, CH, Eh, LH, Oh, Th, Um, Un-, Up, Ur, Us, Ut, h, uuh, uhf, bh, lh, nh, oh, ph, rh, th, uk, un, up, ur, us, ut, uv, u-, uha, uhc, uhl, ah, mh, ui, ua, uc, ul, ue or uw?
[19:11] <Kilos> no man they use the same server
[19:11] <inetpro> Maaz: uh
[19:11] <Maaz> uh means I don't really want to do it but i will if i have to
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:11] <inetpro> oh
[19:12] <Kilos> and they killed QA
[19:12] <inetpro> where's the sjambok?
[19:12]  * Kilos cries, everyone is nasty to me
[19:13] <inetpro> ai!
[19:13] <Kilos> sob
[19:13] <kulelu88> why can't I lay stones??
[19:13] <Kilos> right click with the stone active in you bottom panel thing
[19:14] <kulelu88> I am
[19:14] <kulelu88> I'm trying to lay the stones but nothing happens. I'm with raoul in the dungeon
[19:14] <Kilos> you see where it shows your tools
[19:15] <Kilos> move till stone is highlighted then right click
[19:15] <kulelu88> the stone is in my hand and I am right-clicking with it
[19:16] <Kilos> try pres q
[19:16] <Kilos> ive forgotten so much
[19:17] <Kilos> superfly  is there a telporting point near the dungeon where you okes are
[19:18] <Kilos> ive never seen the dungeon i think
[19:18] <kulelu88> I went right down to get here
[19:18] <Kilos> lol
[19:18] <Kilos> there must be an entrance some where
[19:19] <inetpro> kulelu88: you on ubuntu?
[19:19] <kulelu88> yeah
[19:20] <inetpro> kulelu88: version?
[19:20] <kulelu88> 14.04
[19:21] <inetpro> hmm....
[19:22] <kulelu88> maybe I need to register to build
[19:22] <kulelu88> I have 99 blocks
[19:22] <inetpro> kulelu88: no
[19:23] <inetpro> kulelu88: have you tried locally?
[19:23] <inetpro> play in singleplayer mode
[19:27] <kulelu88> single player works but nothing on the server
[19:27] <Kilos> no matter where you try build them?
[19:28] <kulelu88> yeah wherever I dig with the spade or use any item, nothing happens
[19:28] <Kilos> wow
[19:29] <Kilos> something funny happening there
[19:29] <superfly> it's an incompatibility with the server. The server is built using the latest git
[19:29] <superfly> or a bug in the latest builds, anyways
[19:30] <superfly> when I logged in using my actual account, it worked fine
[19:30] <kulelu88> i killed superfly though
[19:30] <Kilos> eish
[19:30] <kulelu88> or at least he had zero health
[19:30] <kulelu88> :D
[19:31] <Kilos> ya you cant shakes hands if you got a pick in them
[19:31] <Kilos> give him some apples
[19:32] <Kilos> go right click on my fridge and take some cooked meat
[19:33] <kulelu88> im not on there now. hopefully someone fixes it soon :(
[19:38] <Kilos> try installing .11
[19:38] <Kilos> or .10
[19:38] <kulelu88> is the server old(er)?
[19:38] <Kilos> hi magespaw1
[19:39] <Kilos> the server was updated last week or week before and my .11 works
[19:39] <Kilos> inetpro  whats yours?
[19:39] <Kilos> and your version superfly  ?
[19:41] <inetpro> Minetest 0.4.12-dev
[19:41] <Kilos> oh wow mine is Minetest 0.4.11
[19:42]  * inetpro installed the daily build and then disabled the daily ppa
[19:42] <kulelu88> I'm on the latest build also.
[19:42] <superfly> i think mine is 4.11
[19:42] <superfly> 0.4.11
[19:42] <Kilos> same as mine and mine works
[19:43] <magespaw1> hey
[19:43] <superfly> like I said, it's not our clients, it's the server
[19:43] <Kilos> do you think the -dev makes a diffs inetpro
[19:43] <inetpro> must be the server
[19:44] <inetpro> as pointed out by superfly
[19:44] <magespawn> better
[19:44] <Kilos> ya but how come ours work and his doesnt
[19:44] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[19:44] <inetpro> mine also doesn't
[19:44] <Kilos> oh
[19:45]  * inetpro quickly joined as ghost and left again
[19:45] <Kilos> then he must try 0.4.11
[19:45] <inetpro> no man, ThatGraemeGuy will fix it
[19:45] <inetpro> when he has time
[19:46] <Kilos> oh
[19:46] <Kilos> then mine wont work anymore?
[19:47] <superfly> Kilos: It's new accounts that have a problem, and this is why I say it is the server.
[19:48] <Kilos> oh ty for that
[19:48] <magespawn> inetpro: do you use wireshark?
[19:48] <Kilos> there pro
[19:49] <inetpro> magespawn: been a long time but yes
[19:49] <inetpro> superfly: ah
[19:49] <inetpro> magespawn: sup?
[19:50] <Kilos> we got a lekker full channel for midweek
[19:50] <magespawn> just reading up on it here infosecinstitute.com, and i was also looking at http://ctf.infosecinstitute.com/levelone.php
[19:52] <magespawn> i am looking to complete the security + exam somewhere in the next year or less if i can manage
[19:52] <Kilos> good luck
[19:53] <magespawn> thanks Kilos, might need a little more than luck though
[19:53] <Kilos> no man just study lots
[19:53] <Kilos> you can do it
[19:54] <magespawn> mm, that is more than luck then
[19:55] <Kilos> yes we make our own luck most of the time
[19:55] <Kilos> now and again the big boss lends a hand
[19:57] <Kilos> oh kulelu88  you didnt spawn in the hut either?
[20:14] <magespawn> i am off to bed, good night all
[20:17] <Kilos> night magespawn
[20:17] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:17] <kulelu88> I dunno where I spawned. I think I shall try getting that certification also
[20:17] <kulelu88> noted
[20:19] <Kilos> actually kulelu88  login as me and see if that works
[20:19] <Kilos> just dont break my house
[20:19] <inetpro> kulelu88: I found a solution
[20:19] <Kilos> ha
[20:19] <inetpro> at least in part
[20:20] <Kilos> tell tell man
[20:20] <inetpro> kulelu88: https://github.com/brettweavnet/trello_cli
[20:20] <inetpro> trello card list -b 54cd182d23088850225728fb -l 54cd2fb19ebd9ad885a0b067
[20:20] <Kilos> lol
[20:21] <Kilos> i thought you tslking about minetest
[20:21] <inetpro> that ^^ will list the cards in "Current Activities" list
[20:21] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[20:21] <Kilos> maybe i must go sleep
[20:21]  * inetpro is on a different mission
[20:22] <Kilos> keyboard getting blurry
[20:22] <Kilos> i noticed
[20:22] <magellanic_> ThatGraemeGuy: around?
[20:23] <Kilos> no he has no adsl at home, cables stolen
[20:23] <magellanic_> eish
[20:24] <inetpro> bye mages[tab]
[20:24] <Kilos> lol
[20:27] <kulelu88> inetpro: that might work also. you can just login to the CLI and extract it like that
[20:27] <inetpro> yep, it's working, but
[20:27] <inetpro> it pulls a bit more than I want
[20:27] <Kilos> lol
[20:28] <inetpro> it also pulls out the description inside the card, but I can sort that with grep
[20:28] <inetpro> and awk
[20:28] <kulelu88> so you probably dont need my script now :D
[20:28] <kulelu88> good work finding it and not making us redo it
[20:29] <inetpro> there's quite a number of ways to do it
[20:29] <inetpro> I see there's a whole api thingy
[20:29] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[20:29] <Kilos> inetpro  dont break stuffs
[20:30] <inetpro> uh
[20:30] <kulelu88> we can play with the API also
[20:31] <magellanic_> Maaz: tell ThatGraemeGuy to see this post: https://plus.google.com/+MarkClarke/posts/ZDXQ8CxAjHK
[20:31] <Maaz> magellanic_: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[20:32]  * inetpro lol @magellanic_
[20:32] <inetpro> "no tickets requesting me to log a ticket about my ticket"
[20:32] <inetpro> sounds so familiar
[20:34] <kulelu88> inetpro: you're the accountant right?
[20:34] <inetpro> kulelu88: nope
[20:34] <kulelu88> programmer?
[20:34] <inetpro> sysadmin jack of all trades and master of none
[20:35] <kulelu88> where are you working currently?
[20:35] <inetpro> hmm... that shall rather not be public
[20:37] <magellanic_> I'm kinda in the same boat inetpro :p
[20:37] <kulelu88> yeah we don't want your large corporate employer knowing you're playing minetest while on the gig :D
[20:38] <inetpro> haha, I wish I had the time for that
[20:38] <kulelu88> i'm thinking of getting my LPiCs. do you have them?
[20:39] <inetpro> LPiCs?
[20:39] <magellanic_> mine are certainly expired
[20:40] <kulelu88> http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs
[20:40] <inetpro> ah, nope
[20:44] <inetpro> people who care can figure out where I work very easily
[20:45] <inetpro> and I don't mind giving my opinion in public but simply can't trust everyone on here
[20:46] <inetpro> oh and I often wish my bosses would join us here
[20:46] <inetpro> could be fun
[20:46] <magellanic_> inetpro: I think I met you at an ubuntu release party in centurion, like 5-7 years ago
[20:46] <inetpro> magellanic_: that would be at the Irene Mall?
[20:47] <magellanic_> yes
[20:47] <inetpro> interesting
[20:47] <kulelu88> i'll come for the next release party. me + old white guys :D
[20:48] <inetpro> we should arrange another release party
[20:48] <inetpro> even my son enjoyed that one
[20:49]  * superfly knows everybody's secrets, and ain't tellin' nobody!
[20:49] <inetpro> :-)
[20:49] <magellanic_> someone still bought a cake
[20:49] <magellanic_> was fun
[20:49] <magellanic_> :)
[20:49] <inetpro> bought?
[20:49] <magellanic_> made
[20:49] <inetpro> exactly
[20:50] <magellanic_> ubuntu themed yes
[20:50] <magellanic_> was it you?
[20:50] <inetpro> that was made by my wife and oldest daughter
[20:50] <magellanic_> ah
[20:51] <inetpro> and they all use Ubuntu, still
[20:51] <magellanic_> we very much enjoyed the cake, and day
[20:52] <kulelu88> it's been so many years but its always small events for anything geeks do :(
[20:53] <magellanic_> good memories ;) I remember the area we sat in, I think I dished out iso's or cd's, we had cake, everyone had ad gadget the place had to run extension plugs for us, good fun :D
[20:57]  * inetpro can't remember all the faces
[20:58] <inetpro> was a bit noisy if I remember correctly but was good fun indeed
[20:58] <magellanic_> same, it was too long ago
[20:58] <magellanic_> yeah it was noisy
[20:58] <magellanic_> well, ~7 years later, thanks again for the cake :D
[20:59] <inetpro> lol
[21:12] <magellanic_> night all


[00:17] <cjohnston> mornin
[00:18] <paultag> howdy cjohnston
[00:18] <cjohnston> hey paultag
[00:18] <paultag> how goes?
[00:18] <cjohnston> tired... its been a long day after an almost sleepless night... i have to find a new station... i cant handle all this no sleep anymore
[00:19] <paultag> aye :/
[00:19] <akgraner> paultag, was it you I was supposed to touch base with on status.net?
[00:20] <akgraner> sorry  - I was in the middle of publishing the newsletter and didn't send myself a reminder :-/
[00:21] <akgraner> bbiab - if it wasn't you then just remind me who if you remember - if not I'll check the logs :-)
[00:21] <paultag> it's quite alright akgraner -- mhall was being a stickler on my verbage, he insisted I not refer to identi.ca as status.net, and was quite particular that I talk with you to clear up misconceptions, although I'm quite sure we won't be going in that direction anymore :)
[00:21] <paultag> akgraner, nah, it was me :)
[00:21] <akgraner> ok I'll be right back - my kids just put dinner on the table :-)
[00:21] <cjohnston> i wish my kids could cook
[00:22] <paultag> akgraner, :)
[00:22] <paultag> cjohnston, I'm a friken chef, both my parents live like kings when I am at the house
[00:22] <paultag> >:)
[00:23] <cjohnston> want to come visit?
[00:23] <cjohnston> I have a guest room
[00:23] <paultag> hahha :)
[00:23] <paultag> I'm headed down south to the cape to stay with my dad for a bit. Have not seen him in a long while :)
[00:24] <cjohnston> when?
[00:24] <cjohnston> I assume your talking about our cape down here
[00:24] <paultag> cjohnston, in the morrow, and the cape in Mass :)
[00:24] <cjohnston> oh
[00:24] <cjohnston> whatever
[00:24] <paultag> cjohnston, narry two hours for me :)
[00:24] <cjohnston> that aint south
[00:25] <paultag> bah!
[00:25] <paultag> it's south to me
[00:25] <cjohnston> I have a co-worker from mass, and every few days there is a news story out of there that i will harass her about
[00:26] <paultag> haha
[00:30] <cjohnston> akgraner: whenver you come back.. trying to plan the weekend.. am I publishing sunday?
[00:38] <cjohnston> jono: fwiw take a peek at bug 256615 when you get a moment please.. just as a heads up
[00:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 256615 in ubuntu-website-content "Get Involved page should list 'translations' as a way to contribute (heat: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256615
[07:23] <dholbach> good morning
[07:34] <ara> morning all
[07:34] <dholbach> hola ara!
[07:34] <ddecator> morning ara and dholbach
[07:34] <dholbach> hiya ddecator
[07:35] <ara> morning dholbach, ddecator
[07:44]  * nigelb waves to all :)
[07:44] <nigelb> ddecator: I see michigan has wildly altered your sleep pattern ;)
[07:46] <ddecator> nigelb: songbird has wildly altered my sleep pattern :p
[07:46]  * ddecator has stayed up to 4:30am two nights in a row, hoping it doesn't happen again tonight
[07:46] <nigelb> ddecator: developing on it?
[07:47] <ddecator> nigelb: they bumped the daily up to 2.0.0, and with that they officially transitioned to xulrunner-1.9.2 which has required a lot of changes to make it build right. it's almost building now, so i'm hoping to get it done tonight
[07:48] <nigelb> woohoo@
[07:50] <ddecator> right now i'm just enjoying some popcorn while i wait for it to build. anybody want some? :)
[07:51]  * nigelb growls at ddecator
[07:51] <ddecator> down boy
[07:51] <nigelb> hahha
[07:52] <nigelb> oooh ^ skynet!
[07:52] <jono_> hey czajkowski
[07:52] <ddecator> skynet? where? <.<     >.>
[07:53] <nigelb> 02:51 -!- czajkowski<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-community-team
[07:53] <ddecator> oh
[07:53]  * ddecator has joins hidden
[07:53] <nigelb> I thought about it, but no, not worth it
[07:53] <nigelb> nice to know if the person your talking to disappeared ;)
[07:54] <ddecator> true, but i like my channels showing activity only when people talk :)
[07:55] <nigelb> yeah, that's nice
[08:19] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:23] <ddecator> hey czajkowski
[08:26] <dpm> good morning all
[08:27] <ddecator> good morning dpm
[08:27] <nigelb> morning czajkowski, dpm :)
[08:27] <dpm> hey ddecator
[08:27] <dpm> hey nigelb :)
[08:33] <dpm> hey dholbach, here's some motivation for later on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW_fJAiPx_w
[08:40] <nigelb> dpm: haha
[08:47] <dpm> :)
[09:18] <dholbach> dpm: oh, my, god :)
[09:42] <dpm> :)
[09:47] <popey> dpm: how did the screencast turn out in the end?
[10:35] <dpm> popey, I'm still working on them, but good. I started playing with subtitles and it seems YT allows uploading them as well, so that's quite cool to have them translated. What I'm still not sure about is what resolution to use. I've been using both 1024x768 and 800x600 so far, and it seems with 800x600 you can still see quite a lot of detail with less size
[10:37] <popey> the only problem with 800x600 is that you can end up scrolling around and moving windows, because many things dont fit in 800x600 :(
[10:37] <popey> web pages included
[10:39] <dpm> ah, yeah, good point. The one I've been doing on making translations suggestions on lp.net is ok, I don't have to do much scrolling, and I used Ctrl-- to scale down the font
[10:49] <jussi> !test
[10:49] <ubot2> hrm?
[10:51]  * popey wonders if doctormo has seen http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.5/editor/svg-editor.html
[10:51] <popey> which is very cute
[11:00] <nigelb> speaking of doctormo - his new animated hackergotchi looks good :)
[11:01] <nigelb> popey: it is awesomeness! we move more and more into the cloud :)
[11:54] <AlanBell> any news on availability of the new shiny Ubuntu font?
[12:03] <nigelb> AlanBell: only suggestion I've got is to poke ivanka
[12:23] <nigelb> every day somone *has* to comment on atleast one bug saying "canonical is lazy to fix bugs, I'm moving to centos or fedora"
[12:27] <AlanBell> 12:24 < ivanka> hi AlanBell - it is coming along and I think we are all set for beta testing. Actually, if you ping me Monday I should be  able to give some actual dates!
[12:29] <nigelb> well, better than "not yet" :)
[12:32] <nigelb> ooh, someone from some magazine called linux identity mailed me asking me to write articles for ubuntu oriented to beginners
[12:32] <nigelb> wonder if I can write something and also advertize about ubuntu user days :)
[12:37] <duanedesign> hey there nigelb
[12:38] <nigelb> hello duanedesign :)
[12:38] <duanedesign> always good to read you :P
[12:38] <nigelb> heh :)
[12:38] <duanedesign> nigelb: do you have quick sec for a PM
[12:38] <nigelb> duanedesign: sure
[12:38] <nigelb> go ahead :)
[13:22] <popey> http://www.bobbinbicycles.co.uk/epages/rzjy48f9ghvy.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/rzjy48f9ghvy/Products/MRBEN   bike helmet doctormo might light
[13:22] <cjohnston|cell> dpm: Ping
[13:23] <jussi> popey: awesome!
[13:23] <popey> *like
[13:24] <dpm> hey cjohnston|cell
[13:26] <cjohnston|cell> dpm: Any chance you can get to writing that info for the community page today?
[13:27] <dpm> cjohnston|cell, it's on my todo list, but there is no chance I can do it today, unfortunately. Do you need all the community contribution pages to be done today for publishing them?
[13:28] <cjohnston|cell> No. Jono was wanti
[13:28] <cjohnston|cell> Wanting to try to have it done today. Your not the only one though
[13:31] <dpm> cjohnston|cell, ah, ok, thanks for following up. I'll talk to jono when he comes in and tell him that the translation section is pending on me
[13:38] <cjohnston|cell> Thanks dpm
[14:02] <Pendulum> akgraner: ping
[14:05] <cjohnston> hey Pendulum
[14:46]  * nigelb waves to Pendulum
[14:54] <Pendulum> hi nigelb
[15:38] <akgraner> Pendulum, pong
[15:50] <akgraner> dpm ping
[15:50] <dpm> hey akgraner :)
[15:50] <akgraner> hey milo sent me his answers too  - I'll publish them today if that is ok with you?
[15:51] <akgraner> dpm - I apologized for any confusion and told him you were taking up my slack on that :-)
[15:52] <dpm> akgraner, no worries, you did all the hard work on setting up the document and the schedule :-)
[15:52] <akgraner> Pendulum, they snake has now been successfully removed from my house - whew!
[15:52] <akgraner> s/they/the
[15:52] <dpm> akgraner, I'd like to publish a picture with each interview. I've got the one Milo sent me
[15:52] <akgraner> oh cool can you send it to me
[15:53] <Pendulum> akgraner: that's good. I like snakes, but not where they're not supposed to be
[15:53] <akgraner> Pendulum, exactly!
[15:55] <czajkowski> akgraner: snakes?
[15:56] <dpm> akgraner, yeah. I'd like to add a standard footer as well: a link to "Contribute to the <language> team". I told Milo I'd target Monday for publishing the interview, but we can do it today if you like. Do you mind if I create the preliminary post in the Fridge so you can see which structure I was thinking of? I can do it straight away. You are a Fridge editor as well, so you should be able to publish the post whenever you think we should
[15:56] <akgraner> dpm, go for it! :-)
[15:57] <akgraner> and thanks :-)
[15:57] <dpm> akgraner, cool, I'll come back to you in some minutes :)
[15:57] <akgraner> Monday is fine :-)  stick to your schedule
[16:00] <akgraner> dpm, can't wait to see it  - just ping me on Monday so I can make sure I know the format and stuff :-)  Thanks!   off to Dev Week stuff now :-)
[16:14] <dpm> :)
[17:56] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:57] <dholbach> I call it a day
[20:44] <czajkowski> friggin hillarious!
[20:44] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0AJPqKybs
[21:35] <bencrisford> czajkowski: Lol, I rofl'd when the scotch turned up :P
[22:11] <czajkowski> cjohnston: ping
[22:29] <cjohnston|cell> jono_: Can we schedule a 5 min call?
[22:30] <jono_> cjohnston|cell, I am pretty slammed right now, can we talk on Mon?
[22:30] <cjohnston|cell> Yup.
[22:31] <jono_> cheers
[22:31] <cjohnston|cell> :-)
[22:31] <cjohnston|cell> czajkowski: Thanks!!


[07:00] <vibhav> Should I write raring or raring-proposed in the changelogs?
[07:00] <vibhav> (As uploads to raring will go to raring-proposed
[07:16] <slangasek> vibhav: 'raring' is probably best
[07:33] <vibhav> slangasek: thanks
[08:00] <zyga> hey, is the plenary session streamed with google on air?
[08:01] <chilicuil> zyga: http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[08:02] <zyga> thanks!
[08:03] <zyga> virtual jono, that's new :)
[08:03] <zyga> virtually watching virtual jono
[08:04] <ogra-nx7> heh
[08:04] <jono> zyga, lol
[08:04] <jono> it kinda sucks being virtual jono
[08:04] <jono> no super-powers or anything
[08:04] <zyga> jono: you've got the super power of timeshift!
[08:04]  * ogra-nx7 waits for the veggie part
[08:05] <jono> lol
[08:05] <jono> ogra-nx7, ;-)
[08:05] <ogra-nx7> :)
[08:05] <vibhav> hmm, the live strem aint working
[08:05] <vibhav> stream*
[08:05] <vibhav> When will the keynote start?
[08:06] <zyga> vibhav: it's on
[08:06] <ogra-nx7> after the video
[08:06] <zyga> well
[08:06] <zyga> http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[08:06] <vibhav> "The next live stream will begin at 13:55PDT/20:55UTC. "
[08:06] <zyga> it seems to work here
[08:06] <jono> vibhav, works for me
[08:06] <jono> reload
[08:06] <vibhav> works
[08:07] <ogra-nx7> "... in the unlikely event of a loss in cabin pressure,  oxygen masks will ....."
[08:08] <jono> ogra-nx7, LOL!
[08:13] <ogra-nx7> veggies !!!!
[08:15] <zyga> double sabdfl!
[08:26] <zyga> whoops
[08:27] <zyga> video has died
[08:29] <lifeless> zyga: I'm having lots of video hangs
[08:29] <lifeless> zyga: plays 30s / 1m and stops :(
[08:29] <zyga> lifeless: I get nothing on my end
[08:33] <chilicuil> zyga: yep, it's a known problem, just keep refreshing x.x
[08:33] <zyga> k
[08:33] <zyga> I guess ubuntu is just very popular now ;)
[08:34] <chilicuil> zyga: some ppl just setup a hangout for following the uds https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/fd3477b9f2b99fb1b47751e6aab9c3951d3307d6?authuser=0&hl=en u may want to join
[08:34] <zyga> so what was happening with the android demo?
[08:34] <zyga> did it work?
[08:34] <ogra-nx7> yes
[08:35] <zyga> cool, looking forward to the movie after the live recording then
[09:30] <yofel> hi, just to make sure I understood things right:
[09:30] <yofel> when I upload a package I don't need to upload to raring-proposed, but to raring, and launchpad will move the package to raring-proposed and tell me it's been accepted/rejected in raring-proposed?
[09:34] <micahg> yofel: yes, that sounds right (syncs have to go to -proposed though)
[09:34] <yofel> thanks
[10:14] <siretart> micahg: what do you think about uploading libav 9 to raring this week?
[10:34] <ScottK> yofel: The trick is if you run syncpackage, that may need to point at proposed.
[10:34] <yofel> ScottK: I can live with that
[11:23] <ogra-nx7> seb128, jasoncwarner_ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-rebuild-gl-games-for-gles
[11:29] <seb128_> ogra-nx7, thanks
[11:37] <Andy80> hi all
[11:38] <Andy80> following this howto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python I'm trying the command: dh_make -c gpl -s -b -f ../terminator_0.14.tar.gz, but I get an error: Unknown option: b
[11:38] <Andy80> any idea?
[12:09] <zyga> will there be a live stream during the plenary sessions after lunch?
[12:54] <zyga> hey, does anyone know if there are going to be streaming the afternoon plenaries as well?
[13:11] <ScottK> Is there anyone at UDS from Xubuntu/Ubuntu Studio?
[13:19] <astraljava> ScottK: knome from Xubuntu, ailo from Studio.
[13:49] <johey> #ubuntu is too noicy, so please excuse my offtopic question. I am having trouble with apt. I'm trying to setup a http proxy to redirect to official ubuntu repos. It works fine on http, but if I set the proxy to listen on https, apt-get update works fine ONCE, but the next time it gives 404 on packages files.
[13:50] <johey> Removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* solves the problem and let me update once more.
[13:51] <infinity> johey: Why would you want to proxy the Ubuntu archive over https?
[13:51] <johey> (The packages files does not exist, so the 404 is correct, but it should not request it. Only the packages.gz exists.)
[13:52] <johey> infinity: Request from our clients. They won't open a non-encrypted connection.
[13:53] <infinity> johey: Anyhow.  Not sure what your actual issue might be, and it's definitely off-topic for here.  Still seems like an odd requirement to be meeting in the first place, since you're proxying an untrusted connection to a trusted one.
[13:53] <johey> infinity: It is just step one. We're setting up an apt-cacher when this is sorted out.
[13:54] <infinity> johey: Which is still proxying untrusted connections to trusted...
[13:54] <johey> infinity: But I would say this is an apt bug, or at least a bad behavior.
[13:54] <infinity> (Not that the archive is untrusted, but it's verified by apt at the Release.gpg level, not at the https level)
[13:55] <vibhav> Since it is offtopic, dont disturb the devels, let them watch what pitti is saying :P
[13:57] <johey> infinity: Yes, the setup might sound odd, but it should be doable anyhow... If this is not the right channel for discussing potential apt bugs, then can you please suggest me a more suitable forum?
[13:58] <vibhav> !forums | johey
[13:58] <infinity> johey: If you're sure it's an apt bug, file a bug with reproduction steps to show how you're hitting it.
[13:58] <JoeBlacken> Hi, is there any disk encryption tool/library with LGPL, MIT, or BSD license that works with Ubuntu?
[13:59] <cjwatson> vibhav: There's no real point in discussing apt bugs on the forums.  The relevant developers are very unlikely to read it.
[14:00] <johey> I don't mean web forums specifically. More like an IRC channel with people to discuss it, in order to find out if it is a bug or not.
[14:01] <johey> If it turns out to be a bug, I will make a report for sure.
[15:27] <menace> please speak a little bit louder :) thx!
[15:27] <menace> wups, wrong channel
[15:33] <YokoZar> pitti: "Packages which have autopkgtest enabled will have their tests run whenever they get uploaded or any of their reverse-dependencies change."  <-- am I reading that right or should it read "dependencies"?
[16:04] <tsdgeos> YokoZar: no, he means reverse-dependencies, i.e. if you upload glib it'll run gtk tests to make sure new glib does not break existing gtk
[16:25] <cjwatson> YokoZar,tsdgeos: it should actually be dependencies - tsdgeos' description of the actual effects is correct, but think about the semantics carefully :)
[16:25] <cjwatson> in "their reverse-dependencies", the antecedent is the packages with tests, not the packages that were changed
[16:27] <YokoZar> cjwatson: so in other words if I make a very expensive test and attach it to libc6 it'll run all the time and slow down the test rig :D
[16:27] <YokoZar> Or wait, no, nevermind
[16:28] <YokoZar> if I make an expensive test to a package that depends on everything that'll happen.
[16:28] <cjwatson> Like we said somewhere - if we get to the point where this is a problem, that will be a great problem to have
[16:28] <cjwatson> And then we can worry about filtering
[17:31] <anadon> hey, I tried to install unity from scratch over the weekend, and I ran into a compile error with 'nux'.  The ends I'm hoping for is to run unity with a wayland backend.  suggestions to fix the compile error, and/or achieve the ends?  Note, this is from a base install of arch.
[17:59] <armbar> Folks, just upgraded to quantal, got problems trying to install swi-prolog. Is this the right venue to ask for help?
[17:59] <anadon> nope, that's #ubuntu
[17:59] <armbar> got it thanks
[19:45] <peaceZ> hello all
[19:47] <peaceZ> i am programing a utility to dump the rom of laptops's batteries and to flash in declared dead ones, to disable the programmed obsolescence counter
[19:47] <peaceZ> i would need to find some documentations , a kind of list of batteries using BQ2040 BQ2042 BQ 2092 microcontroller
[19:47] <peaceZ> someone can helps me about it a bit ?
[19:52] <peaceZ> most of laptops and mobile phones batteries are dead by pure wish of the industry only, because the electronic control decide do disable the charge dunction on much used batteries, many manual tests on electronics boards using an interface has been successfull but i can etablish now with the battery port it is possible to flash directly the micro-controler
[19:55] <mahdy> jml: hi
[19:56] <mahdy> jml: how can i user undistract-me with zsh ??
[20:01] <peaceZ> au fait je vais créer une nouvelle page dans le wiki sur le control électronique des batterie beaucoup de gens ignorent encore le fonctionnement d'une batterie
[20:01] <peaceZ> sorry mistake
[20:12] <mlankhorst> at the risk of blowing up your battery :/
[20:15] <Chipzz> peaceZ: this channel is oriented towards the development OF ubuntu, not ON ubuntu (cfr topic). I think it's unlikely you'll find the expertise you seek here
[20:31] <orogor> hi
[20:32] <orogor> i upgraded to 12.10 and i encountered an issue can we see this here?
[20:32] <orogor> apprently a boot script has some issue , maybe the fancontrol one
[20:33] <orogor> and the login process get stuck , ctrl-alt-f6 and used startx to open xchat and come here
[20:46] <maxb> orogor: You'll find #ubuntu more receptive to general help requests and #ubuntu-bugs more receptive for assistance in crafting good bug reports. This is very much a pure development channel.