[08:11] <Peddyt> ZuckusFIll, thanks, but I'm not discussing jailbreaking, I'm discussing how to return to a bash script after another shell exits. I don't even want to jailbreak, I've already done that, and I did use irc.osx86.hu #iphone for help.
[08:11] <gimpuzmani> hi
[08:11] <Peddyt> binarydigit, how do I use minicom?
[08:11] <Peddyt> for USB
[08:11] <Gumby> Does anyone here know if a partition table can be changed from GPT to something that windows can recognize ?  My windows boot disk only sees the HDD as one partition even though it is 4 partitions.
[08:12] <rip_> whats the gnome equivalent of task manager?  like when a fullscreen app freezes, how do i get out?
[08:12] <MeVsTheVoices> Gumby: Es u botes?
[08:12] <ZuckusFIll> you can't change a partition table without repartitioning
[08:12] <tyler_d> Gumby: dangerous stuff
[08:12] <abruski> rip_: system monitor
[08:12] <tyler_d> Gumby: I recommend backing up first
[08:12] <Gumby> tyler_d: so is create a partition table that other OS's cant read.
[08:12] <Gumby> tyler_d: not that I like windows at all, but why would ubuntu do this?
[08:12] <rip_> abruski: and is there a keyboard shortcut for it, launching it into high priority?
[08:12] <ZuckusFIll> rip_: ctrl-alt-backspace will do something to get you out
[08:13] <MeVsTheVoices> Gumby: If your first partition is windows and you just want to boot from that sure, ms-sys, new bootloader
[08:13] <tyler_d> Gumby: what is the fs?
[08:13] <abruski> ctrl+alt+del restarts the xserver
[08:13] <abruski> oop
[08:13] <abruski> sorry backspace
[08:13] <Gumby> tyler_d: I mean hell, even cfdisk cant read GTP.
[08:14] <Gumby> MeVsTheVoices: as I stated, the windows install disk does not see any partitions.  Only a 250GB HDD
[08:14] <binarymutant> Peddyt, you can use a kernel mod called usbserial
[08:14] <rip_> ZuckusFIll: lmao i cant believe i fell for that.  thats like falling for "the cheat menu is accessed by alt+f4".
[08:14] <TiZ> Hi.  Kind of like it's being rushed through. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:15] <TiZ> Of note is that it plays normally everywhere except for the sounds dialog and the actual login
[08:15] <Gumby> tyler_d: fs right now is irrelevant as the XP installer (as well as vista) dont even see a single partition.  Just an unformatted drive
[08:15] <ZuckusFIll> well it got you out didn't it?
[08:15] <tyler_d> Gumby: not familiar with that one.. like I said, back it up and format it accordingly
[08:15] <Peddyt> binarymutant, how do I install the kernel mod?
[08:15] <ZuckusFIll> not that bad right?
[08:15] <rip_> ZuckusFIll: yes it did lol
[08:15] <Gumby> tyler_d: however I have ntfs, fat32, and ext3 partition
[08:15] <tyler_d> Gumby: all those extentions are readable from within windows
[08:16] <tyler_d> Gumby: ext3 requires a plugin though
[08:16] <Gumby> tyler_d: IF  the windows installer (or windows) can even see a GPT
[08:16] <Gumby> tyler_d: which it can not
[08:16] <Peddyt> binarymutant, got it, nevermind. Sorry for asking how to do every single thing, :P
[08:17] <abruski> Slart: any ideas?
[08:17] <ripmillar> hi there
[08:17] <tyler_d> Gumby: what is GPT.. sorry ,don't recognize the accronym
[08:17] <Gumby> ie: I had windows installed, then installed intrepid. I can still choose windows via grub, but it fails to boot (kernel dump) because it can not read GPT.
[08:17] <Gumby> tyler_d: its the partition table format that intrepid uses
[08:17] <Gumby> GUID Partition Table
[08:17] <tyler_d> Gumby: k sorry
[08:17] <psypher246> hey all. i am having an issue installing ubuntu to a usb stick. essentially using the usb stick as a hard drive. it installs fine but when i try boot from it the pc does not see an OS to boot from, despite setting the USb to boot in the bios. what could be the issue. note this is not a live persistent install, it's a normal install using the usb stick as a hard drive.  thanks
[08:17] <sexcopter> hi, i have a whole bunch of .tif files in greyscale, and want to convert them to b&w. i figure convert or mogrify is what i want, but not sure precisely how to use mogrify to do this. any ideas?
[08:18] <Slart> abruski: nope.. usb usually just works.. at least with keyboards and mice..google didn't find anything useful either..
[08:18] <ripmillar> anyone can suggest me about how to install serial modem external to ubuntu?
[08:18] <tyler_d> Gumby: I stuck with ext3...
[08:18] <Gumby> tyler_d: ext is a filesystem type, not a partition table
[08:18] <gavimobile> folks, i am using ubuntu 8.04, i have tried installing flash several times today with backports and/or the flash 10 .deb install file from the abobe website. i made sure one was removed before i installed the other.. any suggestions why this might be happening?
[08:18] <sexcopter> psypher246: i'm not a whizz at it, but you may need to make it bootable, have you tried unetbootin?
[08:18] <tyler_d> Gumby: yes with you so far
[08:18] <psypher246> unetbootin will kake apersistent setup, not what i want
[08:18] <shear> sexcopter, do you mean you want to go from greyscale to one bit B&W?
[08:19] <psypher246> make*
[08:19] <Peddyt> binarymutant, scratch that, I thought there was something called 'kernel-modules-usbserial', but I can't find it. Do you know where to find usbserial?
[08:19] <psypher246> and yes i did make it bootable
[08:19] <sexcopter> shear: yeah, exactly
[08:19] <Gumby> tyler_d: so sticking with ext3 doesnt mean anything in this case.  thats not the issue.  the issue is the partition table itself can not be read.
[08:19] <tyler_d> Gumby: sounds like you know more then me sir...
[08:19] <tyler_d> Gumby: which really doesn't say alot though ;)
[08:19] <Gumby> hehe, ok.  I appreciate the effort
[08:20] <sexcopter> psypher246: hmmm... another option might be usb-creator ..?
[08:20] <SmokeyD> hey people. I am running snort on my ubuntu hardy machine, and have configured multiple ip addresses using aliases
[08:20] <gavimobile> anyone?
[08:20] <SmokeyD> should I now also modify /etc/snort/snort.debian.conf to include both eth0 and eth0:1 in DEBIAN_SNORT_INTERFACE="eth0"?
[08:21] <shear> sexcopter, give this a shot. " convert image.jpg -monochrome image-bw.jpg "
[08:21] <psypher246> sexcopter: no, thats not it, you not understanding what I mean. i don't want a bootbale live cd on a usb stick. i want to use a sub stick as a hard drive, so boot up with cd, choose to install ubuntu to usb stick and boot off that
[08:21] <Peddyt> Can someone please help me with the compile error? http://pastebin.com/m4f8df44b
[08:21] <jtaji> Gumby: is this on a mac?
[08:21] <ZuckusFIll> gumby: I've never seen ubuntu use any partition table other than MBR by default
[08:21] <Manix> Can someone help me install my display drivers? I'm using this walkthrough (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=) but when I get to the end it says I'm useing a Xen kernal and it does not support that. I'm new to Linux so I have no clue what this means and how to remedy it.
[08:21] <ZuckusFIll> I have seen PPC macs use it though
[08:21] <Gumby> jtaji: no, its a PC
[08:22] <Peddyt> oops
[08:22] <Gumby> hrmmm..
[08:22] <NTAuthority> would ext4 give me more free space than ext3 would... even when removing the 5% disk reserve? I suppose 'no'
[08:22] <sexcopter> shear: that looks like just the ticket, will try it, thanks
[08:22] <Gumby> I did have OSX86 installed on it like a year ago.  but I have installed many an OS since then
[08:22] <sexcopter> psypher246: i'm sorry, i don't really follow you
[08:22] <ZuckusFIll> Manix
[08:22] <SmokeyD> Peddyt: that is a very small paste. What are you trying to compile and please give a little more info on the compile error
[08:22] <Peddyt> Can someone please help me with the compile error? http://pastebin.com/m1e854fbe  (wrong pastebin before)
[08:22] <ZuckusFIll> what vid card is it?
[08:22] <binarymutant> Peddyt, oh it's in the kernel source, you'll have to compile a new kernel for it
[08:22] <Peddyt> SmokeyD, that was the wrong pastebin :P
[08:22] <jtaji> Gumby: hmm, this is the first time I'm learning about GPTs and EFI
[08:22] <Manix> GTX 280
[08:22] <SmokeyD> Peddyt: :)
[08:23] <psypher246> sexcopter: just ignore the fact that i'm using a usb stick and think of me installing ubuntu to a hard drivbe and the system won't see the os
[08:23] <jtaji> Gumby: I guess your pc must have an EFI bios though ?
[08:23] <psypher246> has nothing to do with live cd's/usb unetbootin or usb-creator
[08:23] <Gumby> jtaji: and windows didnt stop booting until after I installed ubuntu this last time and all I did was format the root partition when installing
[08:23] <Peddyt> binarymutant, I'm not compiling a new kernel for something so trivial. I'm going to try to compile iBooter, instead, please have a look at my last pastebin.
[08:23] <Gumby> jtaji: no idea
[08:23] <sexcopter> psypher246: oh, hang on, i think i see the misunderstanding. i was thinking of a usb stick, you mean an external hdd..?
[08:23] <Scix> dump: How can i activate wireless settings on install of an ubuntu installation? I'm using preseed to install
[08:23] <binarymutant> Peddyt, this is why embedded devices should always have a serial port :P
[08:23] <psypher246> it is a usb stick
[08:24] <psypher246> but think of it as a hard drive as I am going to use it just like a hard drive
[08:24] <psypher246> like a SSD on a netbook
[08:24] <Peddyt> yes :P I should just go and buy a microcontroller programmer.
[08:24] <ZuckusFIll> Manix, Ubuntu didn't automatically find the restricted driver for you?
[08:24] <binarymutant> Peddyt, pastebin that make file
[08:24] <sexcopter> psypher246: ok, so just to check, did you run a live session, choose to install and partition the usb stick as if it were a harddrive?
[08:25] <psypher246> sexcopter: YEs!
[08:25] <psypher246> exactly
[08:25] <Manix> it did and it installed it but it didn't give me any screen resolutions
[08:25] <Manix> I
[08:25] <Peddyt> binarymutant, here's the make file: http://pastebin.com/m7e1f3309
[08:25] <ZuckusFIll> yeah
[08:25] <neil_d> I am using vmplayer to run an instance of ubuntu server, is there a way of changed consoles like <ctrl><alt><f1..f6> without using <ctrl><alt> ?
[08:25] <sexcopter> psypher246: and you're sure your mobo/bios supports booting from usb?
[08:25] <Manix> I'm still stuck with this crap having half the screen off my screen
[08:25] <binarymutant> Peddyt, and libibooter.o
[08:25] <ZuckusFIll> I heard people were having problems with the GTX280 but I thought they were solved by now
[08:25] <psypher246> yup, tried 3 diff pc's as well as vmware
[08:25] <todanderson12> hey guys i have an issue i updated my kernel to the newest one. now my computer can't get DHCP i have an intel 8101E chipset ethernet card
[08:25] <ZuckusFIll> and EnvyNG didn't work?
[08:26] <sexcopter> psypher246: sorry, unless i have a brainwave, i don't htink i'm going to be able to help. have you searched the forums/google?
[08:26] <Manix> havn't tried that
[08:26] <ZuckusFIll> yeah
[08:26] <ZuckusFIll> give envy a try
[08:26] <Manix> okay doing 25 updates right now
[08:26] <Manix> 235* updates
[08:27] <psypher246> sexcopter: yeah but everything talk about the live cd setup method, hard to find what i am referring to
[08:27] <todanderson12> the card works fine if i boot to the older kernel
[08:27] <Peddyt> binarymutant, libibooter.o actually looks like binary or something unreadable. did you mean libibooter.h?
[08:27] <Baatti> hello, how can I set up Pidgin to point to Privoxy so I can mask my ip?
[08:27] <Manix> I just managed to install Vista and Ubuntu on an Nvidia FakeRaid RAID5
[08:27] <Manix> took me all day besides the 8 hrs spent at work
[08:28] <ZuckusFIll> ha
[08:28] <binarymutant> Peddyt, I probably won't need it, and ya that was an oops
[08:28] <abcdef> look for  documents for grub reinstall
[08:28] <matholum> hello everyone... does anyone know how I can get my sound to sync up for flash movies in Firefox 3?
[08:28] <Manix> I was told this morning I was s.o.l.
[08:28] <Peddyt> binarymutant, what was an oops?
[08:28] <rww> Baatti: I used http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO/InstantMessaging when I was connecting to Privoxy+Tor. Those instructions might work for you, too.
[08:28] <Manix> proved them wrong
[08:28] <Peddyt> did they package it wrong?
[08:28] <binarymutant> Peddyt, the .o because that's the compiled one, but here try this makefile instead http://pastebin.com/ma87b809
[08:29] <luddite> hi - i have backed up my laptop to a USB-HDD using clonezilla. Now i want to copy the image to a QEMU image to test it went well. Is this possible? (I have to send laptop in for repair...)
[08:29] <Peddyt> oh, you made an oops. hehe
[08:29] <Baatti> rww thank you
[08:29] <sexcopter> psypher246: here's a thought: perhaps you need to install to the usb stick (done already, i assume), but install grub to the first partition of your internal hdd, then you will probably have to craft an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst that points to your usb partition. you could probably copy an entry from a normal installation and change the root
[08:30] <Peddyt> binarymutant, cc1plus: error: unrecognised debug output level "fPIC"
[08:30] <nellmathew> is intrepid just as stable as hardy at this point? (meaning, if i can get my drivers working properly, it should be good to go right?)
[08:30] <ZuckusFIll> yeah it should
[08:30] <Obama_Linux> running 8.04.2 need help getting wireless too work please someone help me    00:05.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2600 802.11 MIMO
[08:30] <ZuckusFIll> I'm loving intrepid
[08:30] <binarymutant> Peddyt, let me get the ibooter source and mess around with it brb
[08:30] <gmathews> Hi. my 2.26.7-11 kernel has disappeared...and i didn't do anything except look at the grub menu in grub editor. back to 2.26.7-7. How can I get it back?
[08:31] <Peddyt> binarymutant, for your convenience :P : http://www.iphonelinux.org/files/ibooter-1.0.tar.bz2
[08:31] <nellmathew> i'm gonna upgrade then and see how it goes :] thanks ZuckusFIll
[08:31] <neil_d> gmathews: is it still installed ?
[08:31] <ZuckusFIll> who's nellmathew?
[08:31] <khmer42> Does anyone know if there's a file where the preferences for GEdit are stored?
[08:31] <gmathews> neil_d: it has to be  - how can i check?
[08:32] <nellmathew> - sockets, i've been here pretty often for the last month or so
[08:32] <TiZ> Is there any way to change the commands executed when you click the shutdown button? I can't think of any other way to get logout sounds to play
[08:32] <neil_d> gmathews: check appropriate files in /boot
[08:32] <sexcopter> khmer42: try gconf-editor
[08:32] <DevMonkeyX_> hello all
[08:32] <binarymutant> Peddyt, what's the depends for it?
[08:32] <gmathews> neil_d:  it is there..
[08:33] <Peddyt> binarymutant, I don't know.
[08:33] <gmathews> neil_d: It just doesn't show up in my grub on boot
[08:33] <khmer42> sexcopter: I was looking for the actual file where they are stored so I can write a bash script to get things set up how I like it on a new install.
[08:34] <NTAuthority> khmer42: ~/.config, or ~/.gconf, depends on which data
[08:34] <sexcopter> khmer42: oh, i see. not sure off hte top of my head
[08:34] <jtaji> khmer42: I believe you can use gconftool from the command-line
[08:34] <psypher246> sexcopter: yeah i could do that, but the point is i'm trying to setup a minimal firewall with just a usb stick for storage. no hard drive. i'm starting to think that my problem at the moment is vmware and not the usb or setup. gonnatry with virtualbox
[08:34] <rww> gmathews: if /boot/grub/menu.lst is correct, and the package is installed correctly, try "sudo update-grub"
[08:34] <NTAuthority> jtaji: that would be suggested
[08:34] <DevMonkeyX_> looking for a way to view the size of a folder on disk i tryed "ls -l" but it is saying the folder size is 640 ()
[08:34] <DevMonkeyX_> but its like 250meg
[08:34] <Hugo_Senna> sudo apt-get install shaper
[08:34] <rww> DevMonkeyX_: you're looking for du. See "man du" for options.
[08:35] <jtaji> DevMonkeyX_: du -sh
[08:35] <neil_d> gmathews: you could hand edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file an put the entry back at the bottom,  I think there is also a control for update-grub that controls how many old kernels are listed.
[08:35] <Hugo_Senna> sudo apt-get install shaper no ubuntu server 8.10 com problems ?
[08:35] <DevMonkeyX_> thanks guys, can i sort by size using du, i looked in the man but doesnt seem to be an option
[08:36] <sexcopter> khmer42: i see a few files at ~/.gconf/apps/gedit-2/
[08:36] <AnonnYmouse> having issue with tab-completion @ the CLI
[08:36] <rww> DevMonkeyX_: I usually do something like du | sort -n
[08:36] <NTAuthority> Hugo_Senna: there must be a reason why both Ubuntu and Debian removed it
[08:36] <DevMonkeyX_> thanks again rww :P
[08:36] <DevMonkeyX_> honest i am learning :P somthing just p*ss me off
[08:36] <khmer42> sexcopter: Thanks I'll take a look
[08:36] <neil_d> gmathews: set "# howmany=all"
[08:37] <gmathews> it is no longer in /boot/grub/menu.lst neil_d. How can i redownload it, then it will sort it automatically? Not really keen to manually add the entry into menu.1st
[08:37] <aLeSD> hi all
[08:37] <ZuckusFIll> speaker-test -Dplug:surround40 -c4 -l1 -twav
[08:37] <ZuckusFIll> oops
[08:37] <ZuckusFIll> lol
[08:37] <aLeSD> I just reconfigured my xserver ... but the 3d is not working anymore ... why ?
[08:37] <Hugo_Senna> [NTAuthority]: tanks
[08:37] <binarymutant> Peddyt, I built it without error...
[08:37] <NTAuthority> Hugo_Senna: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=500594 too
[08:37] <sexcopter> psypher246: ok... the only other thing i can think of is when you boot from usb, it gets the device names wrong. perhaps if you specified devices/partitions by uuid that would fix it?
[08:37] <AnonnYmouse> hi.
[08:37] <AnonnYmouse> tab-completion @ commandline doesn't work
[08:37] <binarymutant> Peddyt, sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[08:38] <Peddyt> binarymutant, I already have that installed...
[08:38] <phix> hey
[08:38] <psypher246> sexcopter: yeah i thought bout that as well, but i figured i would at least see grub then, all i get is no operating system found
[08:38] <Peddyt> binarymutant, are you i386?
[08:38] <binarymutant> Peddyt, ya
[08:39] <phix> I force installed a package using dpkg -i --force-conflict, although now when I try and install any package I get the same conflict error, how can I tell apt to STFU about a particular conflict?
[08:39] <sexcopter> psypher246: in which case, sorry to say i think i'm out of ideas... see what your experiment in vmware yields....
[08:39] <neil_d> gmathews: its no problem you can experiment just don't alter the first kernel listed (the default), check the "# howmany " line and regenerate the menu.lst with update-grub
[08:39] <sexcopter> AnonnYmouse: can you give an example that's not working?
[08:39] <NTAuthority> phix: resolve the conflict, apt is trying to help :)
[08:39] <gmathews> okay neil_d going to try that
[08:39] <neil_d> gmathews: got to go to dinner now.
[08:39] <Peddyt> binarymutant, gtg, thanks for all your help.
[08:40] <gmathews> lol wait! neil_d :P
[08:40] <gmathews> thanks though neil_d..
[08:40] <phix> NTAuthority: is there a preference or apt.conf directive to allow a particular conflict?
[08:40] <AnonnYmouse> sexcopter : thnx.
[08:40] <AnonnYmouse> sudo apt-get inst<tab> does nothing
[08:40] <NTAuthority> phix: may be, but usually the conflicts are there for a reason
[08:40] <binarymutant> AnonnYmouse, usually a bash-completion file doesn't include options
[08:40] <NTAuthority> phix: like overwriting the same file
[08:41] <sexcopter> AnonnYmouse: yeah, that command there is "apt-get", and "install" is not a command in that sense
[08:41] <jtaji> AnonnYmouse: uncomment the three lines about bash_completion in /etc/bash.bashrc
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <binarymutant> AnonnYmouse, want mine, apparently mine does
[08:41] <phix> NTAuthority: no I want JDK1.4 installed, I don't care about this ->   xulrunner-1.9: Conflicts: j2re1.4
[08:41] <AnonnYmouse> thnx . i'll try quickly
[08:41] <gmathews> neil_d: I think it worked - http://paste.ubuntu.com/113121/
[08:42] <NTAuthority> phix: there may be something like pinning, never actually lived with a dpkg conflict
[08:42] <psypher246> sexcopter: yeah aparently the vm systems don't actually support this, mmmm
[08:42] <phix> NTAuthority: I have jdk6 set as /usr/bin/java so xulrunner shouldnt be complaining
[08:42] <Peddy> binarymutant: I got it working, thanks a lot.
[08:42] <phix> NTAuthority: it's a non-serious conflict
[08:42] <phix> NTAuthority: infact can I file a bug report against it? it is stupid
[08:42] <NTAuthority> phix: near pinning in the docs, I mean :) you could recompile xulrunner, or replace stuff in the dpkg local pakcage lis
[08:43] <binarymutant> Peddy, np hopefully one day you'll be able to put linux on it :P
[08:43] <phix> NTAuthority: hmmm, yeah I could redo xulrunner
[08:43] <rww> !bug | phix
[08:43] <NTAuthority> phix: there's already a bug report for it, by the way
[08:43] <AnonnYmouse> sweet guys. that worked
[08:45] <Peddy> binarymutant: Yep I sure will, when iboot is cracked. I already have a nice terminal setup though, with all my favourite *nix programs, and apt-get :)
[08:46] <hossam> how can i run sudo dpkg -i and have dpkg automatically download dependencies?
[08:46] <scizzo-> hossam: just type apt-get -f install if there are deps
[08:46] <binarymutant> embedded devices are so cool
[08:46] <Scix> some of topic, but how can i disable all these "flashkidd left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection)." in the window? Using pidguin
[08:47] <NTAuthority> binarymutant: I hate embedded devices... if they're too closed
[08:47] <rww> Scix: Open the Plugins window and enable the "Hide Joins/Parts" plugin.
[08:47] <hossam> scizzo-, well this is a .deb that i downloaded from a source other than a repository
[08:47] <scizzo-> hossam: yes
[08:47] <scizzo-> hossam: exactly
[08:47] <hossam> scizzo-, will try
[08:47] <binarymutant> NTAuthority, try iPAQ :)
[08:48] <ChronosZA> does anyone know if vmware-workstation uses more resources than vmware-server? everyime I resume the windows VM on ubuntu it takes so long to start up i can make coffee, bake a cake and eat it and still wait.
[08:48] <scizzo-> hossam: dpkg might give  you errors that it depends on something....what you do when that happens is to apt-get -f install
[08:48] <luddite> whats the best way to backup ubuntu
[08:48] <rww> !backup | luddite
[08:48] <luddite> and test it
[08:48] <rip_> luddite: reverse lights
[08:48] <scizzo-> hossam: and all the packages will be downloaded that is needed from the repos
[08:48]  * luddite reverses over rip_
[08:48] <rip_> lmao
[08:48] <Scix> rww: tanks :)
[08:49] <NTAuthority> hey, look, the bot has had an extra t
[08:50] <ommya> I have problem in installing ubuntu 8.1 for dual boot
[08:50] <ommya> grub does'nt show option for ubuntu
[08:50] <Fuzzy> use Super Grub Disk
[08:51] <ommya> Fuzzy:and where do I get it?
[08:51] <hossam> scizzo-, yup its all good now, thanks. i didnt know dpkg and aptitude were so tight =]
[08:51] <binarymutant> NTAuthority, in the name? u-bot-tu instead of u-bot-u
[08:51] <Trijntje> Hi all, my login in gnome takes up to 30 seconds, i already disabled all startup programs in 'session' menu. How can i find out what is causing the slow login?
[08:51] <sexcopter> shear: the mogrify/convert hint you gave earlier is working, thanks!
[08:51] <Fuzzy> ommya: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[08:52] <ommya> Fuzzy:are you sure this would solve my problem?
[08:52] <NTAuthority> binarymutant: yep
[08:52] <scizzo-> aptitude uses dpkg.....there might be a way to send the package to aptitude so that the program will then read from that...otherwise I would suggest you look at the apt-get or apt manual for more information
[08:53] <Fuzzy> ommya: I had the same problem, that disc will add ubuntu to your grub menu
[08:53] <ommya> Fuzzy:Thanks a lot ..I was struggling for this for about a month with around 3-4 attempts
[08:53] <Fuzzy> ommya: What is your other OS?
[08:54] <jedi06> how do you use ssh to copy files to your own system?
[08:54] <dennda> jedi06: scp
[08:54] <Gorlist> lftp?
[08:54] <Gorlist> get/put
[08:54] <sexcopter> ommya: what Fuzzy is suggesting is very effective and will definitely work, but i'll just say it can be a bit confusing to use. go slow and read what it says
[08:57] <hossam> anyway to convert a deb (logitech squeezecenter) to install on a ppc machine (playstation3)?
[08:57] <ommya> Thanks! sexcopter
[08:58] <znh> Hello folks. As soon I start Pidgin and login (MSN) I receive a few offline messages and it does not respond. Does anyone know this and/or has a solution to this?
[08:58] <znh> The interface does not respond that is
[08:58] <jtaji> hossam: no, the software needs to be compiled for that architecture
[08:58] <hossam> jtaji, yea was figuring as much, mebbe hoping for some crazy emulation, thanks
[08:58] <Elecktra> hossam: deb is just an archive... i'm scared program compiled inside for another architecture... for x86... it will not run on ppc
[08:59] <hossam> Elecktra, ill have to petition to the squeezecenter devs, thanks =]
[08:59] <NTAuthority> znh: bug in 2.5.3, try a 2.5.4 package
[09:00] <sexcopter> does anyone know of a nifty program that will take a bunch of pngs and make a pdf (one png per page)?
[09:00] <znh> NTAuthority, so it's a known bug. Could you give me directions how to install that package instead?
[09:00] <NTAuthority> znh: getdeb.com provides recent pidgin packages, AFAIK :)
[09:01] <znh> I don't like installing foreign packages, it's a production server how strange that may sound
[09:01] <znh> are there any other decent MSN clients other than pidgin?
[09:02] <DJones> !msn | znh This should give you a few to pick from
[09:02] <Elecktra> znh: well.. start pidgin from console... and connect only 1 service... msn
[09:02] <NTAuthority> znh: you could compile a pidgin 2.5.4 package yourself :p btw, GUI apps on a server?
[09:02] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[09:03] <Elecktra> people, do msn support offline messages? last time i was using it.. it wasn't support that functions...
[09:03] <znh> NTAuthority, yes, NX terminal service
[09:03] <Out_Cold> Elecktra, i get offline msgs
[09:03] <NTAuthority> znh: oops, forgot, run one myself :p
[09:03] <ChronosZA> Elecktra: yes it does. not sure if your client needs to, but the protocol now does.
[09:03] <NTAuthority> Elecktra: since the WLM 8.0 client protocol it's supported
[09:03] <znh> NTAuthority, o really
[09:04] <Elecktra> Out_Cold, ChronosZA: a year ago it wasn't :)
[09:04] <Out_Cold> well i offline all the time now Elecktra
[09:04] <ChronosZA> Elecktra: it is relatively new, i dont remember it working a long time ago.
[09:05] <Fuzzy> My taskbar just disappeared
[09:05] <Fuzzy> the bar with all the running programs ion it
[09:05] <Fuzzy> anyone know how i can get it back?
[09:05] <NTAuthority> znh: and those packages can be trusted, though they don't provide .diff.gz files last time I checked
[09:05] <Fuzzy> I'm using ultimate ubuntu 2.0 with ubuntu 8.10
[09:05] <minickisthis> My wifi is detected but never connects
[09:05] <abcdef> Hello
[09:06] <abcdef> All left the room
[09:06] <Out_Cold> so i'm trying to figure out why i can't set up my wifi when starting without gui.... i can't seem to ifup eth1 due to "device not configured" or some similar garbage..
[09:06] <znh> NTAuthority, welll it's already hard to trust deb packages as they're often maintained by anonymous people
[09:06] <ziroday> Out_Cold: is this an ethernet connection?
[09:06] <NTAuthority> znh: and you do trust 'Ubuntu MOTU Maintainers' :)
[09:07] <Out_Cold> ziroday, no... but i don't seem to have a wlan connection
[09:07] <ChronosZA> ubottu, what is ultimate ubuntu 2.0?
[09:07] <Baatti> :'(
[09:07] <Baatti> I still am not getting Pidgin to run through Tor
[09:07] <ChronosZA> ubottu bite me :)
[09:07] <ChronosZA> does anyone elswe know?
[09:07] <Out_Cold> ziroday, yet i'm not connected with a ethernet..
[09:07] <ChronosZA> a link
[09:07] <znh> NTAuthority, MOTU?
[09:07] <ziroday> Out_Cold: sorry, what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:07] <Fuzzy> google for ultimate ubuntu
[09:08] <Fuzzy> but that doesnt matter cuz its just ubuntu 8.10
[09:08] <Fuzzy> but the taskbar is gone :)
[09:08] <NTAuthority> znh: you don't even check the maintainer lines? team that manages the 'universe' repository
[09:08] <ChronosZA> Fuzzy: as soon as firefox decides to respond i would love to...
[09:08] <ikarius> alright, updated the bridged OpenVPN instructions on the wiki.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[09:08] <Fuzzy> i still have the clock and stuff
[09:08] <Fuzzy> and the start menu
[09:08] <ziroday> !derivatives | ChronosZA Ultimate Edition is a derivative of ubuntu
[09:08] <Fuzzy> but i dont see the running apps
[09:08] <Out_Cold> ziroday, when i boot up without a gui, i can't seem to get my wifi going.... i try ifup wlan0, ifup eth0/1 but no avail
[09:08] <ikonia> Fuzzy: ubuntu ultimate is not supported here
[09:08] <ikonia> Fuzzy: it is not an ubuntu release
[09:08] <ChronosZA> ziroday: to the rescue :) thx.
[09:08] <Fuzzy> okay
[09:09] <znh> NTAuthority, heh. I work with too many distrobutions to know the terminology.. all I know everything except base I wont trust
[09:09] <ziroday> Out_Cold: how come you're booting without a GUI?
[09:09] <Out_Cold> trying to get going in shell??
[09:09] <neil_d> gmathews: I am back, how did you go.
[09:09] <NTAuthority> znh: compile one yourself, and probably even look through the source code line by line :)
[09:09] <NTAuthority> znh: pidgin is the only one in main
[09:09] <ziroday> Out_Cold: right, well wifi isn't the easiest thing to setup from the command line :). Ethernet is easier.
[09:10] <gmathews> neil_d: It updated according to that paste..but it is not there in grub... I am confused
[09:10] <Out_Cold> ziroday, yea i figured so... it's been a daunting task so far... i can switch to CLI after i have logged into a gui, but w/o is a huge pain.
[09:11] <neil_d> gmathews: did you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it was there?
[09:11] <gmathews> neil_d: yep and it is not there. ;/
[09:11] <Out_Cold> i was hoping for something simple like the auto in network manager
[09:11] <neil_d> I am using vmplayer to run an instance of ubuntu server, is there a way of changed consoles like <ctrl><alt><f1..f6> without using <ctrl><alt> ?
[09:12] <neil_d> gmathews: copy another and change its number
[09:12] <ziroday> Out_Cold: nothing like that exists AFAIK
[09:13] <gmathews> neil_d: what do u mean by that
[09:13] <Out_Cold> yea.... well i suppose i'll keep learning the wlan setup..
[09:13] <ziroday> Out_Cold: does the wifi network have encryption on it?
[09:13] <Out_Cold> yea
[09:13] <Out_Cold> WEP
[09:13] <Out_Cold> 10 digit hex
[09:14] <ziroday> Out_Cold: okay, well you will have to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:14] <no-sound> why would 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) have no sound in 8.04?
[09:14] <Out_Cold> and add something along the lines of 'auto ifup wlan0' 'something else'
[09:15] <Caesi> Hi there.. Anyone have any idea why the windows aren't shown in one of the panel bars anymore?
[09:15] <neil_d> gmathews: using gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   open the file for editing, copy an section for a kernel that is there, and change the number to the kernel you want and save the file.
[09:15] <ziroday> Out_Cold: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[09:15] <ziroday> Caesi: is the window on a different workspace?
[09:15] <Caesi> no
[09:15] <Caesi> ziroday: it's on the same
[09:16] <Out_Cold> will read into that, thanks ziroday
[09:16] <gmathews> wht bout the 'root=UUID=22c51a1a-122a-4f37-b761-1b65d3c90ffb ro quiet splash' part neil_d sure that is different for both the kernels
[09:16] <Stefano> Hi, I cannot modify file in a peer-to-peer Samba sharing from a PC but I can from another. I have in every case 8.04 LTS
[09:16] <Out_Cold> i always find it hard to find the exact stuff i'm looking for
[09:16] <ziroday> Caesi: you're using gnome and gnome-panels I presume? Is there any specific apps?
[09:16] <ziroday> Out_Cold: I can tell you know, its not simple
[09:16] <Slart> Caesi: do you see any running apps at all? or are just some of them not visible?
[09:16] <Out_Cold> yea i know too lol
[09:16] <Caesi> yes I am.. nop, no specific app.. I can see the apps if I alt-tab them
[09:17] <Caesi> just not in the "task bar" so to speak
[09:17] <neil_d> gmathews: not unless the two kernels are on different drives that part should be identical.
[09:17] <Slart> Caesi: try right clicking on the panel and select "+Add to panel"
[09:17] <Slart> Caesi: try adding a "window list"
[09:17] <Caesi> Slart: got it, thanks :)
[09:17] <gmathews> okay they are on the same drive - I will try that and reboot in a bit
[09:18] <gmathews> thanks neil_d :)
[09:18] <gmathews> neil_d: hey are on the same drive - I will try that and reboot in a bitsplash
[09:18] <Stefano> I can enter the shared directory in a peer-to-peer LAN with 8.04 but I cannot open documents
[09:18] <Stefano> Open Office starts but doesn't show the document
[09:19] <Slart> Stefano: sounds like a permissions problem
[09:19] <Stefano> Slart, yes. But with a PC I can connect
[09:19] <Stefano> Slart, one can the other no
[09:20]  * Administrator jumps
[09:20] <Slart> Stefano: try watching the server logs and see if the machines do something differently
[09:20] <ziroday> Administrator: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:21] <Stefano> Slart, i've tried lanching from terminal but I don't receive anyt error from command line
[09:21] <Stefano> Slart, I look in server now
[09:21] <ziroday> Stefano: what permissions are the files?
[09:22] <Slart> Stefano: there might be a "verbose" switch/setting you can try, to make it more chatty
[09:22] <Marupa> Hi all....I'm trying to watch DVDs under Ubuntu and I've enabled DVD playback via the install-css script and required packages, but whenever I try to watch the movie in VLC it never loads, or acts as if i's trying to load and then quits, and if I load it in mplayer it does the same thing.  If I load a single .VOB in mplayer it skips around the movie as if in really fast fast forward....any ideas?
[09:23] <GeffIsLegend> hey everyone i just got done shrinking my vista partition to make a new one for ubuntu so i can do the full install now the new partition is "Unallocated" what does that mean? how do i make it to where i can use this partition able for use by ubuntu?
[09:23] <ziroday> Marupa: the dvds work everywhere else?
[09:23] <Marupa> ziroday, under windows, yes.
[09:23] <Stefano> ziroday, read/write for everyone
[09:23] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: unallocated means there is nothing on it. You can tell ubuntu (when installing) to install itself to the free space which is the unallocated space
[09:23] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: unallocated just means that it's empty space...the ubuntu installer will create a new partition in that empty space
[09:24] <Stefano> Slart, ok i've got something
[09:24] <abcdef> cenvert forced File system after insert windows cd .... help me...
[09:24] <Wunderbar> hey guys, whats yout fav audio playback app in ubuntu??
[09:24] <ziroday> !best > Wunderbar
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> abcdef: could you at least form a proper question
[09:24] <Elecktra> Wunderbar: audacious
[09:24] <ziroday> Marupa: okay, you certain you have libdvdread3 installed and run the script?
[09:24] <Slart> Wunderbar: I use quodlibet at the moment.. aplay is nice too .. or audacious
[09:25] <Marupa> ziroday, yes.
[09:25] <Stefano> Slart, smbd/sec_ctx.c:set_ctx(241)
[09:25] <Stefano> setting sec ctx (,0) - sec_ctx_stack_ndx = 0
[09:25] <Stefano> Slart, don't have idea....
[09:25] <Wunderbar> Ive been using audacios and quod libet too...
[09:25] <GeffIsLegend> but there still is no options for me to choose in step 4 of 7 where i have to use a partition to use, its still blank, as before
[09:25] <ziroday> Marupa: okay, can you start totem in the terminal and look out for any errors?
[09:25] <Stefano> Slart, it returns when start with openoffice
[09:25] <Slart> Stefano: huh? that's an error message? just looks like random weirdo pseudo code to me.. never seen that before
[09:26] <Marupa> failed to read next DVD block.  Error: Error reading from DVD.
[09:26] <Stefano> Slart, nor me....
[09:26] <Elecktra> Wunderbar: what u didn't like in audacious so?
[09:26] <ziroday> Marupa: okay, you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[09:26] <Marupa> ziroday, yes
[09:27] <Wunderbar> I wish there was a way to update my 'library' in audacious similar to the way that quod libet does automatically
[09:27] <ziroday> Marupa: tried setting/changing your region
[09:27] <Marupa> ok...that was weird.
[09:27] <Wunderbar> although technically speaking audacious doesn't have a library
[09:27] <Marupa> I ejected/reinserted...and now it's working.
[09:27] <ziroday> Marupa: glad to hear it :)
[09:28] <Marupa> very weird though
[09:28] <Marupa> thanks for the help!
[09:28] <GeffIsLegend> for step 4 of 7 of my ubuntu installation, it says "no root file system defined" but it wont allow me to select ANY partitions, not even the unallocated one.
[09:28] <Elecktra> Wunderbar: at least.. i can make images of my music cd collections with cdparania and use cue+flac with audacious.. but cue plugin sure have bug, it does not display time of each track correctly... but i don't matter
[09:28] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: are you using the automated partition thingy?
[09:29] <GeffIsLegend> do i have to do something to the blank partition in gparted?
[09:29] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: are you doing manual or automated installation?
[09:29] <abcdef> lost linux partitions after inserted MS windows install cd?
[09:29] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: err partitioning
[09:29] <GeffIsLegend> i would guess manual sense i have to shrink the vista space on my own and stuff
[09:30] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: well what does your hard drive partition table look like now? Do you have unallocated space?
[09:30] <GeffIsLegend> i shrunk 20gb of my hard drive to make a new partition for ubuntu its self
[09:30] <khmer42> I am trying to launch an Adobe Air application from the command line, in gnome I just double click it and it runs, but when I do $ ./airapp.air in bash nothing happens
[09:30] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: right, and gparted marks that as unallocated?
[09:31] <GeffIsLegend> yes i have gparted open now, and one of them is UNALLOCATED, so is the Filesystem, can that be a problem?
[09:31] <Stefano> netstat -lantp | grep -i smb returns something like this:
[09:31] <Stefano> tcp       16      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:42606      <IP_ADDRESS>:139         ESTABLISHED 5308/gvfsd-smb-brow
[09:31] <Stefano> tcp        5      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:34538      <IP_ADDRESS>:139         CLOSE_WAIT  5308/gvfsd-smb-brow
[09:31] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: have you run the installer yet?
[09:31] <abcdef> Help me!! lost linux partitions
[09:31] <GeffIsLegend> yes, i have that up as well
[09:31] <puar> hi
[09:31] <ziroday> abcdef: slow down and explain your problem please :)
[09:31] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: right, close gparted and then go back in the installer to retrigger a hard drive scan
[09:32] <GeffIsLegend> okay ill try that now
[09:33] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: you should then be see an option that says "Use the largest continuous free space" select that.
[09:34] <GeffIsLegend> nope, its still blank :(
[09:35] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: you are on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#Select%20a%20Disk screen right?
[09:35] <Stefano> what is the log file I can check when I try to open a file to a Samba share?
[09:35] <ikonia> Stefano: samba logs in /var/log/samba
[09:35] <Out_Cold> ziroday, after doing some more digging, i believe this is more along my lines... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[09:36] <Out_Cold> but thanks for the direction..
[09:36] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  In pidgin, in the "Join chat" window, I want my IRC account (there's only one) to be the account that's selected by default.  How do I go about that?
[09:36] <ziroday> Out_Cold: that will work too, its just less in depth then the article I gave you before :)
[09:36] <jonaskoelker> when I mount things with sshfs, I get "fusermount: mount failed: Cannot allocate memory"
[09:36] <jonaskoelker> what's up with that?
[09:36] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday : Mine looks way different from that for some reason
[09:36] <Stefano> ikonia, I have a lot of files there and looking at the file log.MY-MACHINE I don't see anything
[09:37] <Out_Cold> yea... well less indepth is good for a scatter-brained individual such as myself
[09:37] <jonaskoelker> or, rather, how do I make sshfs mounting work?
[09:37] <ikonia> Stefano: look at the ip address also and the overall samba log and syslog
[09:37] <Stefano> ikonia, from a PC I can open and modify all documents of the share but I cannot from another
[09:37] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: what version of ubuntu are you installing? Also are you doing a manual partition or automatic partition?
[09:37] <jonaskoelker> ... I'm a member of group fuse, it's been working since $FOREVER.  Could it be the new 2.6.27-11 kernel I just installed, I wonder
[09:37] <GeffIsLegend> 8.10
[09:38] <GeffIsLegend> and im not sure about the partition
[09:38] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: do you have internet access?
[09:38] <GeffIsLegend> yes
[09:38] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: can you take a screenshot and put it up on imagebin so I can see where you are?
[09:38] <GeffIsLegend> yeah, 1min
[09:38] <ikonia> Stefano: thats user or network share permissions then
[09:39] <chetnick> m
[09:39] <khmer42> When I double click on a file in nautilus is that the same as calling ./somefile from the command line?
[09:39] <Stefano> ikonia, but I don't have put any samba user, nor for the PC that works fine
[09:40] <ziroday> khmer42: if you are in that directory, yes
[09:40] <ikonia> Stefano: the username you are connecting to the samba machine as must be "authorized" to use the share you want
[09:40] <Out_Cold> going for the CLI reboot... hope this works
[09:41] <lau> hello
[09:41] <Stefano> ikonia, I use the force user and force group options in the samba share
[09:41] <ziroday> Out_Cold: you can also do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:41] <Stefano> ikonia, and it works for a new pc
[09:41] <ikonia> Stefano: then look at the logs
[09:41] <Out_Cold> yea ziroday but i still have the gui up....
[09:41] <lau> do you know the open source shop engine used to develop https://shop.canonical.com/ ?
[09:41] <ikonia> Stefano: as I said it sounds like user or network share permissions
[09:41] <_tote_> exit
[09:41] <_tote_> ja
[09:41] <ikonia> lau: contact canonical
[09:42] <Wunderbar> is Lau Danish??
[09:42] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday : Mind if i put it on imageshack? imagebin is confusing me.
[09:42] <lau> ikonia: is it for licencing purpose?
[09:42] <Wunderbar> apparently not
[09:42] <lau> Wunderbar: no
[09:42] <ikonia> lau: contact canonical
[09:42] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: anywhere is fine
[09:43] <RPS> Hi guys, how do I make gconf-editor appear in my gui ...I mean as a program in Ubuntu 8.10 versus it running in the terminal.
[09:43] <Stefano> ikonia, I really don't find anything in the log :-(
[09:43] <ikonia> Stefano: which log are you looking at
[09:44] <ezerhoden> RPS: gksudo gconf-editor launches it here
[09:44] <Out_Cold> well that worked well..
[09:44] <Out_Cold> screw gnome
[09:45] <Wunderbar> screw gnome? what the eff...
[09:45] <GeffIsLegend> well Ziroday, I uploaded it on imagebin, but its not showing up
[09:45] <Out_Cold> who needs a GUI with fancy smansy irssi and lynx?
[09:45] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: ?
[09:45] <tomodachi> Out_Cold:  I concurr
[09:45] <bigbrova2> ezerhoden: dude gconf-editor dont need to be run as root
[09:46] <Out_Cold> tomodachi: now all i gotta do is figure it all out lol
[09:46] <GeffIsLegend> like i searched for it, but its not there :-/ is there a different website i can use for linux based uploads
[09:46] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: err its the url of the image.
[09:46] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: as in when you submitted it, it would take you to a new page with your picture.
[09:46] <ezerhoden> bigbrova2: your right
[09:46] <CQ> hello, I want to restart inetd but there is no /etc/init.d/inetd file ... ??? any ideas? I'm runnign 8.10
[09:47] <Out_Cold> i am ultimitely looking to just carry a flash drive with a ssh client so i can just use a server to do my business...
[09:47] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: soon, GNU screen will be your favorite window manager ;-)
[09:47] <GeffIsLegend> i know but after i uploaded it , it didnt take my to any new pages
[09:47] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: no worries, just explain what you see currently
[09:47] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: does it say manual anywhere?
[09:47] <Out_Cold> WM?? i'm trying to ditch the managers
[09:47] <GeffIsLegend> nope
[09:47] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: did you hit "Manually edit partition table" option?
[09:48] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: but then how are you going to switch between irssi and lynx? O_o
[09:48] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: does it look like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=6.png ?
[09:48] <Stefano> ikonia, sorry. I'm looking at all files in /var/log/samba
[09:48] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: ... and if you like those two, you're gonna' love mutt ;-)
[09:48] <scizzo-> CQ: I think you are looking for xinetd
[09:48] <scizzo-> CQ: not inetd
[09:48] <GeffIsLegend> no its in the gparted format
[09:48] <ezerhoden> jonaskoelker: control + alt + F#
[09:48] <ikonia> Stefano: look at the syslog
[09:48] <CQ> scizzo-: isn't there either...
[09:48] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: but then you need to be root to have more than $N windows open
[09:48] <Out_Cold> jonaskoelker: i was using different sessions lol.... i suppose this WM may be of use yet lol
[09:48] <Out_Cold> and tried mutt too
[09:49] <ezerhoden> jonaskoelker: no
[09:49] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: lol :D
[09:49] <CQ> something is bound to the IMAP port even thout netstat -an doesn't list it...
[09:49] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: :-?
[09:49] <CQ> though
[09:49] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: do go on
[09:49] <scizzo-> CQ: not that I know what you have done with the system but xinetd is standard
[09:50] <scizzo-> CQ: in either case you can use lsof or netstat -ntpa to list them a bit more
[09:50] <CQ> scizzo- nothing, it's a clean isntall from a few days ago...
[09:50] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: okay, you have hit manual partition. Can you go back?
[09:50] <ezerhoden> jonaskoelker: what are you saying, to be in a tty you have to be root?
[09:50] <BlindSide_> hey guys
[09:50] <scizzo-> CQ: then I do not believe that /etc/init.d/ does not contain xinetd or inetd
[09:50] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: no, I'm saying that C-M-F[1-6] only lets you have 6 open windows
[09:50] <bogey> if I recompile xrandr from ubuntu sources, then the mode changing with ID does not work, with ubuntu binary xrandr it works
[09:50] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: or rather, terminal sessions
[09:50] <GeffIsLegend> no , it wont let me, ill just restart the installer
[09:51] <bogey> http://pastebin.com/m4a02d55b
[09:51] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: what if I want to run 10 different apps?
[09:51] <BlindSide_> all of a sudden, my ubuntu started shutting down automatically when it boots
[09:51] <bogey> what could cause that?
[09:51] <BlindSide_> just before it gets to the login screen
[09:51] <ezerhoden> jonaskoelker: then you fire up screen
[09:51] <CQ> scizzo-: I have a /usr/bin/update-inetd file...
[09:51] <scizzo-> CQ: its to me not logical if you have not installed another service handling it
[09:51] <bogey> I checked with ldd, they are using same libs
[09:51] <BlindSide_> it starts shutdown procedure and reserve progress bar
[09:51] <jonaskoelker> ezerhoden: ^_^
[09:51] <CQ> scizzo-: isn't logical to me either...
[09:51] <Out_Cold> was nix always multi session?
[09:51] <CQ> maye the good old reboot will solve it...
[09:51] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: okay. Make sure to not click Manual partitioning
[09:52] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday: the step before that is just asking about my keyboard layout.
[09:52] <CQ> but is there no /etc/init.d/xinetd script or the like??
[09:52] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: since the first release: maybe.  Probably
[09:52] <scizzo-> CQ: have you checked
[09:52] <scizzo-> ?
[09:52] <jonaskoelker> Out_Cold: before that, when /vmunix could alternate between printing A's and B's... probably not :D
[09:52] <Out_Cold> oh the places you'll go with nix....
[09:52] <CQ> sudo updatedb;locate inetd shows nothing
[09:52] <scizzo-> CQ: dpkg -l |grep xin
[09:53] <guilha64> boas
[09:53] <Out_Cold> "Two of the greatest things to ever walk out of Berkley, LSD and UNIX"
[09:53] <jonaskoelker> I'm not sure which caused which ;-)
[09:54] <Out_Cold> doesn't matter lol
[09:54] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday : here ya go http://imagebin.ca/view/ZvHdPe.html
[09:54] <CQ> scizzo-: nope, nothing there ... I have only ii  update-inetd                               4.30                                        inetd configuration file updater
[09:55] <CQ> this is a 8.10 clean install with vtiger and apache installed, that's it. amd64
[09:55] <Out_Cold> well now that i fixed my wifi i should get to bed.... have a good night or morning or whatever it is..
[09:55] <tyler_> when I log in on my user I get a blank brown screen thats it any advise
[09:55] <CQ> should I just install xinetd?
[09:56] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday, You there? http://imagebin.ca/view/ZvHdPe.html is the image of my screenshot on what step i keep getting stuck on
[09:56] <scizzo-> CQ: hmmm
[09:58] <GeffIsLegend> :[
[09:58] <phantomcircuit> ImportError: No module named cPython
[09:59] <phantomcircuit> which package has that module?
[09:59] <CQ> phantomcircuit: packages.ubuntu.comis your friend...
[09:59] <CQ> or apt-cache search cpython
[10:00] <scizzo-> CQ: not really sure how the system was setup if there is no inetd or xinetd for the services
[10:00] <phantomcircuit> CQ, it isn't in any of them... wtf
[10:01] <CQ> phantomcircuit: python-scientific - Python modules useful for scientific computing is what apt-cache gives me... try apt-get update first
[10:01] <phantomcircuit> system is upto date
[10:01] <CQ> scizzo-: I'm not either. Like I said it's a default amd64 8.10 install
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:03] <Quack[stinkpad]> would anyone know why my FAT32 ipod won't allow me to write to it? it's rockboxed, but it does the same thing with the default apple os
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: mounting options maybe
[10:04] <Quack[stinkpad]> i tried mounting it
[10:04] <Quack[stinkpad]> and specifying rw
[10:04] <Quack[stinkpad]> it shows up as a FAT32 in fdisk, but when i try to write it says it's a read only filesystem
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: then try some different ones, try with some uids
[10:05] <Gumby> check dmesg for info
[10:05] <Quack[stinkpad]> i see. i know nothing about that. can you suggest what to google for?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: there are more search engines than google as well
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: you could also try man mount'
[10:06] <znh> ActionParsnip1, that's not a search engine
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> znh: never said it was ....
[10:06] <Quack[stinkpad]> i don't find the man pages as descriptive as i would like :/
[10:06] <oCean_> d
[10:06] <znh> you gave the intention though, lol, nevermind.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> Quack[stinkpad]: just read them thoroughly, they have server users since the dawn of unix
[10:08] <timahvo1> hi everybody
[10:09] <timahvo1> trying to install canto-0.6.1 from source but keep getting this running install
[10:09] <timahvo1> running build
[10:09] <timahvo1> running build_py
[10:09] <timahvo1> running build_ext
[10:09] <timahvo1> building 'canto.widecurse' extension
[10:09] <FloodBot1> timahvo1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:09] <timahvo1> gcc -pthread -shared -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions build/temp.linux-x86_64-2.5/canto/widecurse.o -L/usr/local/lib -L/opt/local/lib -lncursesw -o build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.5/canto/widecurse.so
[10:09] <timahvo1> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncursesw
[10:09] <timahvo1> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:09] <timahvo1> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[10:09] <timahvo1> sorry about that
[10:09] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, very basic question: I use tab completion in the shell for a directory which is a symlink, the last / isn't added, any ideas how to solve this?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: use pastebin in future, imagine if we all stated pasting huge swathes of meesages like that, the room woul be useless
[10:10] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: sorry was away
[10:10] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: I mean to that was an accident sorry
[10:10] <GeffIsLegend> oh its ok
[10:10] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app similar to MS OneNote for ubuntu?
[10:10] <timahvo1> lemmie paste the link
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: its cool
[10:10] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: right, you're selecting Manual Partition
[10:10] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: BasKet, Tomboy
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: have you installed whatever provides -lncursesw
[10:10] <oCean_> SmokeyD: intended behaviour, the symlink in itself has no trailing slash, only the actual directory has
[10:10] <GeffIsLegend> did you see my screenshot?
[10:10] <SmokeyD> for instance /home/me/somedir/ is a symlink to /media/somedir/ now when I type /home/me/somedi<TAB>, it get's completed to /home/me/somedir not /home/me/somedir/
[10:11] <abcdef> help
[10:11] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: yep, do you see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall#Select%20a%20Disk step before that?
[10:11] <abcdef> help me
[10:11] <SmokeyD> oCean_: is there a way to solve this?
[10:11] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday, will check out basket
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: i think as its a file (the symlink is a file) it won't add the / for you
[10:11] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: am guessing libncurses5-dev ?
[10:11] <oCean_> SmokeyD: I guess not
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: apt-cache search curses | grep lib
[10:11] <GeffIsLegend> no, for some reason my installation layout is completely different from these screenshots you've been showing me
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: or read the dependancies for what you need
[10:12] <quibbler> abcdef: with what?
[10:12] <SmokeyD> oCean_, ActionParsnip1: there would be no way to work around this somehow? It is very annoying if you use the shell a lot
[10:12] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: cheers. Lemmie try that then get back to you
[10:12] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday, basket loks good but isnt there a gnome version?
[10:12] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: okay, and its odd that the buttons are all greyed out. Mind restarting the computer and therefore restarting the install?
[10:12] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: nope
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: don't think so duder
[10:13] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: gnome's answer is tomboy afaik
[10:13] <O__o> hello i have a windows xp that has remote desktop turn on, which program in ubuntu can connect to it?
[10:13] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: I've read the INSTALL file and I seem to have all the dependecies installed
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: you could maybe find out how the symlinking works and add a / to the end by default in tab completion
[10:13] <GeffIsLegend> yeah sure, ill be right back
[10:13] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday, ahhh tomboy is good but not good enough in this case oh well
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: then your compile option is incorrect
[10:13] <oCean_> SmokeyD: nope. I use shell/tab completion all the time, it's something you have to work with, i guess
[10:13] <fazlur> use rdesktop
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: its one or the other
[10:13] <fazlur> to connect to the windows xp
[10:14] <Trijntje> does anyone know what can cause a realy slow login in gnome?
[10:14] <SmokeyD> oCean_, ActionParsnip1: ok thanks
[10:14] <SmokeyD> ActionParsnip1: you are always here helping people by the way.  Doesn't affect me yet fortunately
[10:15] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: ty
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: im out a fair bit, maybe you catch me on
[10:15] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: let you know how I do :)
[10:16] <ziroday> timahvo1: it might also be worthwhile making sure that you have build-essentials installed and asking the canto devs
[10:17] <timahvo1> ziroday: yes I have build-essentials and everything the INSTALL txt saysit depends on which isn't a whole lot
[10:18] <ziroday> timahvo1: including the -dev packages?
[10:19] <timahvo1> ziroday: I have the python-dev headers as well as ncurses dev headers and afaik thats all I need
[10:19] <a[2121]e> aloha
[10:19] <ziroday> timahvo1: then if I were you I would ask the canto devs
[10:19] <timahvo1> ziroday: :p
[10:20] <GeffIsLegend> hey Ziroday, I'm restarted now
[10:20] <timahvo1> ziroday: best idea yet :)
[10:20] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: right, go through the installation and make sure to avoid manual partition like the plauge
[10:20] <ziroday> timahvo1: do I get I prize ;)
[10:21] <timahvo1> ziroday: only if you are as helpful in helping me install ubuntu on my cig lighter which I plan to do next ;)
[10:22] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday- There is no option for if i want it to be manual or automatic, It goes from Step-1:Language       Step-2:Timezone     Step-3:Keyboard Layout then Step-4:Partitioning
[10:22] <majeru> heh, the ubuntu server survey document was written using Adobe Distiller for Macintosh :)
[10:22] <Akiv1> How can I make a website address like such: 4<IP_ADDRESS>/~user/ act like a top level domain, meaning rewrite it so that doing a $_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] includes /~user?
[10:22] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: and is the partitioning section buttons all greyed out
[10:23] <robf> quick question,    the update-grub script.    How can I make it NOT put in that annoying "recovery mode"  section?   I removed everything from altoptions= in menu.lst (leaving it blank) and this simply adds a second kernel entry exactly as the first
[10:23] <GeffIsLegend> Yes, Partitioning is all greyed out
[10:23] <robf> I delete the alloptions= line and it readds it when running update-grub so obviously this too,  isn't the method
[10:23] <Akiv1> This is new ground for me, but there must be a way... Reason I ask is that I have to setup a test server right now and before I point the name servers over, I need to thoroughly test... But the code is not at all portable and I want to fix some of the global variables they use
[10:23] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: well then I have no clue. Try the alternate CD perhaps
[10:23] <phantomcircuit> apport has a crash recovery but it is for a none official package
[10:23] <phantomcircuit> how can i get the information in the .crash file?
[10:23] <ziroday> phantomcircuit: right?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Akiv1: poor coding then
[10:24] <savvas> phantomcircuit: ls -l /var/crash/
[10:24] <GeffIsLegend> Well i created the new partition while in Windows Vista, Can that be the problem? I can make a new partition in Ubuntu and see if that works?
[10:24] <Akiv1> ActionParsnip: I couldn't agree more, but right now thatis not the point
[10:24] <tyler> after logging in i get a brown blank screen
[10:24] <phantomcircuit> savvas, yeah but what is the format of a .crash file?
[10:24] <robf> GeffIsLegend: windows partitions are not linux partitions
[10:24] <robf> so that could be the issue yes
[10:24] <robf> (they're labeled differently)
[10:24] <savvas> phantomcircuit: text file I think, try: file /var/crash/yourfile.crash
[10:24] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: you shouldn't need to make a new partition. The space can just be left as unallocated. In a terminal what does sudo fdisk -l output?
[10:24] <GeffIsLegend> urhhg so thats the problem then
[10:25] <robf> GeffIsLegend: you could try to just use fdisk
[10:25] <robf> and use the l option to change label I think
[10:25] <GeffIsLegend> whats fdsik
[10:25] <robf> hrm
[10:25] <GeffIsLegend> *Fdisk
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !info fdisk
[10:25] <ziroday> robf: the space is marked as unallocated.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !fdisk
[10:25] <robf> ziroday: oh?
[10:25] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: its a command.  He said the space was marked as unallocated in gparted and such. There would be no label on it then
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> robf: its not, try cfdisk or gparted
[10:26] <robf> ziroday: I missed that part when I came in
[10:26] <GeffIsLegend> should i link you think i pastebin ziroday?
[10:26] <shally871> anyone
[10:26] <robf> ActionParsnip: too much graphics
[10:26] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: please pastebin
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> robf: both are on your system, cfdisk is standard and used in gentoo at install time
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> robf: cant get much less gfx than that
[10:26] <robf> ActionParsnip: no it isn't
[10:27] <robf> fdisk is
[10:27] <shally871> which one to install Virtual machine or virtual server? I dc just no so i afraid i missed the answer
[10:27] <robf> I'm a gentoo user =s
[10:27] <phantomcircuit> savvas, lol yeah a text file with a 30MB base64'd coredump in it
[10:27] <robf> I know the handbook inside and out,  unless they updated it to use cfdisk for some reason
[10:27] <ezerhoden> in the fdisk man page, it recommends using cfdisk :)
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> used to be
[10:27] <robf> weird
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> ezerhoden: haha ace
[10:27] <savvas> phantomcircuit: still, a text file. do: head -n 100 /var/crash/yourfile.crash
[10:27] <robf> ActionParsnip: maybe on x86 I always use amd64 and the install docs differ
[10:27] <savvas> phantomcircuit: it will show you the first 100 lines of that line
[10:28] <ezerhoden> here is a quote ' fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things - usu‐
[10:28] <ezerhoden>        ally it happens to produce reasonable results.'
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> http://w2.eff.org/IP/broadcastflag/cookbook/cfdisk.png
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> robf: true, i use varying archs
[10:28] <GeffIsLegend> Ziroday - http://pastebin.com/m67a1edc7
[10:29] <robf> ActionParsnip: at least I didn't suggest he use sfdisk
[10:29] <robf> I'm not a complete anal retentive should chip.
[10:29] <ziroday> GeffIsLegend: okay so the disk is detected. However there is no unallocated space on it from what I can see
[10:29] <robf> ziroday: it's id 7
[10:30] <robf> he needs it to be 82
[10:30] <robf> as i said me thinks.
[10:30] <GeffIsLegend> 1min , theres a screeny comin at ya
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> robf: ive always used cfdisk / fdisk, i'll check sfdisk
[10:30] <robf> ActionParsnip: don't...and thats a stout warning ;)
[10:30] <ziroday> robf: feel free to give out your advice to GeffIsLegend
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> haha
[10:31] <mikevankuik> I've got a issue with sysklogd not restarting after logrotate has rotated the drupal log file... any idea's?
[10:31] <robf> ziroday: well just saying if he as he stated already,  made the partition from vista,  it is going to be ID 7 as it is,   linuxy things don't like that when dealing with trying to format them
[10:31] <robf> ActionParsnip: seriously sfdisk is a death trap
[10:31] <ziroday> robf: well I have no idea how to change it, you can take the lead if you want
[10:32] <GeffIsLegend> hey guys, here ya go , look for yourself http://imagebin.ca/view/c3uHif.html
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> robf: i can do what i need with cfdisk etc. Its cool. Just fun to check alternatives and how they differ
[10:32] <robf> ziroday: fdisk /dev/sda ,   t [2] ,  83
[10:32] <robf> ActionParsnip: trust me when I say sfdisk is no alternative
[10:33] <phantomcircuit> GeffIsLegend, what are you trying to do?
[10:33] <robf> ActionParsnip: think of it as manually partitioning your drive
[10:33] <robf> manually.... not "manually" in the fdisk sense..
[10:33] <GeffIsLegend> Do a full install of Ubuntu, but when i get to step 4 of 7 there is no partitions for me to select to install on
[10:33] <robf> GeffIsLegend: do this
[10:33] <robf> GeffIsLegend: get you a terminal up
[10:33] <GeffIsLegend> kk
[10:33] <robf> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:34] <robf> then press  the l key
[10:34] <robf> see 83?  thats linux partition,  currently its 7 (ntfs)
[10:34] <srx2002> need some help installing an intel graphics driver on this laptop
[10:34] <robf> so hit t,  then choose the partition you're gonna install linux on,  (2)   and type in 83
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> robf: well it is an alternative, just not an advised one :)
[10:35] <srx2002> ! intel
[10:35] <robf> ActionParsnip: heh true.   you only should use it if you want hot command line partitioning action
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> robf: oh i love cli
[10:35] <robf> ActionParsnip: no
[10:35] <Wunderbar> lol
[10:35] <GeffIsLegend> robf, whats that command? a l? as in L
[10:35] <robf> you don't love it
[10:35] <oCean_> robf: if there is some space unallocated, he could delete the 2nd partition and re-create it, using all the space..
[10:35] <robf> GeffIsLegend: you needn't hit l,  just press t
[10:35] <srx2002> actionparsnip: you know anything about installling graphics drivers?
[10:35] <robf> l just lists labels
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: what video card
[10:35] <srx2002> intel 945
[10:36] <robf> you need to ID partition 2 as 83 GeffIsLegend
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> robf: yeah its what i do all my file manipulation / extraction with. Mouse is for games and web browsing
[10:36] <robf> ActionParsnip: me too ...
[10:36] <robf> except for games
[10:36] <robf> adom <3
[10:36] <robf> who needs a mouse
[10:36] <GeffIsLegend> Partition number (1-8): 83
[10:36] <GeffIsLegend> Value out of range.
[10:36] <danboid> My wifi is working but where is the device file for wlan0? I can't find eth0 device file either under 8.10?
[10:36] <robf> noooo
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: http://zavizionov.blogspot.com/2007/09/howto-ubuntu-intel-945-widescreen.html
[10:36] <robf> GeffIsLegend: partition 2
[10:37] <robf> GeffIsLegend: then id  is 83
[10:37] <GeffIsLegend> oh ok
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> robf: helps with warzone2100 ;)
[10:37] <srx2002> xf86-video-intel-2.6.0.tar.bz2   I just downloaded that driver from the intel web site,,,but I'm not that good with the command line stuff
[10:37] <batata> ubuntu rockz
[10:37] <robf> ActionParsnip: emerge adom  or apt-get install adom...if its in the sources
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !info adom
[10:37] <robf> :(
[10:37] <robf> ancient domains of mystery
[10:37] <robf> a rather in depth rogue like
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> robf: play penumbra too, its badass
[10:38] <robf> GeffIsLegend: once you've done that press "p"  to ensure the partition is now id 83
[10:38] <Appiah> I dont want my normal users (non-admin/non-suders) to get the update notification and not the "you need to restart your system" reminder either
[10:38] <robf> and then hit w to write the new table
[10:38] <Appiah> Is it possible to turn off?
[10:38] <robf> Appiah: yes just disable it :p
[10:38] <robf> I forget where that menu is
[10:38] <Appiah> so I have to disable it for all then
[10:38] <robf> but its somewhere cos I just did it like 5 min ago when I installed this thing
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: you already have a decent enough driver in a package which is installed by default, just needs some xorg.conf confi
[10:38] <robf> uehrm
[10:38] <robf> I dunno
[10:39] <robf> I'm sure there is a default config
[10:39] <robf> I mean if you add a user it gets its user's config from somewhere
[10:39] <Appiah> ...
[10:39] <robf> GeffIsLegend: you ok there?
[10:39] <GeffIsLegend> hey robf it should give me a list up to like 88 or somethin right?
[10:39] <srx2002> Action: actually My screen resolution is fine...I'm just having some problems with rendering 3d images..like Globe or google earth programs
[10:39] <robf> huh
[10:39] <danboid> Anybody understand network device files in 8.10 and where they are? ie how to access with cli?
[10:39] <robf> GeffIsLegend: define it
[10:39] <robf> "it"
[10:40] <srx2002> regular movies and things seem to run fine
[10:40] <GeffIsLegend> uhmm im confused, 1min
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: thats where you need the drivers for
[10:40] <srx2002> i figure it could be driver related
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: video isnt 3d so a fast enough pc can render the image
[10:40] <robf> ok
[10:40] <GeffIsLegend> so how do i give 83 the ID Geffislegend ? whats the command
[10:40] <robf> you said it gives you some stuff
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: check the link and update your xorg.conf, then restart x
[10:40] <robf> and I dunno what it nor the stuff is
[10:41] <robf> GeffIsLegend: press t
[10:41] <robf> choose 2
[10:41] <robf> type 83
[10:41] <robf> press p
[10:41] <FloodBot1> robf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <robf> shut up foolbot.
[10:41] <srx2002> ok...will try it...should I uses the latest driver I downloaded instead of the one on that url?
[10:41] <danboid> You tell it robbo!
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> robf, use a single line, it moans less
[10:41] <robf> ActionParsnip: I wanted to be concise and distinct for geff...
[10:42] <robf> a single line seems confusing when using a buncha one key commands for em
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> robf: use commas or large spaces
[10:42] <Wunderbar> s
[10:42] <Pirate_Hunter> I cant seem to be able to install phpmyadmin as php5-mcrypt wont be installed, I tried installing it by its own but it depends on libltdl3 (>=1.5.2-2) which is not installable, so how can i get phpmyadmin on my system?
[10:42] <robf> ya ya...               ya....                   I know...                                          in the future I shall
[10:42] <robf> GeffIsLegend: before you do anything after those steps,  paste the output of "p" for me k?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> robf: just suggesting
[10:43] <robf> I know I'm just kidding anyhow
[10:43] <robf> http://sial.org/pbot/34857  GeffIsLegend  should look something like this...although no exactly
[10:43] <danboid> robf has all your newline
[10:43] <GeffIsLegend> well "P" isnt making anything show up :-/
[10:43] <robf> don't use a big p
[10:43] <robf> use a little one
[10:44] <robf> GeffIsLegend: look at my paste,  thats how to do it ;)
[10:44] <GeffIsLegend> i am
[10:44] <GeffIsLegend> ohok
[10:44] <robf> don't quit it yet though ,  I wanna see your output from p,   before you write it out don't want you blowing soemthing up
[10:45] <GeffIsLegend> oh ok i got it, 1min im going to pastebin now
[10:45] <robf> okie doke
[10:45] <GeffIsLegend> http://sial.org/pbot/34858.
[10:45] <Caesi> hullo, anyone any idea why I have no sound? am using OSS and according to the Preferences --> Sound, everything's working fine: )
[10:45] <robf> lol
[10:45] <robf> I like you GeffIsLegend
[10:46] <GeffIsLegend> haha i stoopid :D
[10:46] <robf> ok yeah,  thats it
[10:46] <robf> not that your stupid
[10:46] <GeffIsLegend> dun pay any attention to my misses lol
[10:46] <robf> partition 2 is of course what you want to use yes?
[10:46] <Kemion> Linux Magazine + Ubuntu 8.10 x64 DVD = all your base are belong to us  :D   -->   I spent so much time looking for a good 64 bit distro then I checked my local newsstand.  ;)
[10:46] <robf> meh,  I'm outta hobnobs... woe is me
[10:46] <GeffIsLegend> yeah , my main partition , not my recovery lol
[10:46] <robf> well I mean sda2 is gonna be the linuxy stuff
[10:47] <mickeyd> gday
[10:47] <GeffIsLegend> yeah
[10:47] <robf> if this is so,   now press "w"
[10:47] <robf> and then q
[10:47] <robf> and try again
[10:47] <GeffIsLegend> try the install again?
[10:47] <robf> sure
[10:47] <robf> it shouldn't complain now
[10:47] <robf> just dblclick the partition assign it a partition .
[10:47] <GeffIsLegend> hah cool , 1min lemme check it out
[10:47] <abuzer> selam
[10:47] <robf> er a thingy,  wtf they call it mountpoint
[10:47] <robf> yeh
[10:48] <robf> I dunno ubuntu installer is semi insane to me.  it does weird things in guided... just use manual.   makes mom happy.
[10:48] <GeffIsLegend> still blank:[
[10:48] <GeffIsLegend> oh nvm
[10:48] <robf> horrific
[10:48] <robf> oh now it works?
[10:48] <robf> or no
[10:48] <GeffIsLegend> it says The kernel still uses the old table.
[10:48] <GeffIsLegend> The new table will be used at the next reboot.
[10:48] <GeffIsLegend> Syncing disks.
[10:49] <robf> hah
[10:49] <GeffIsLegend> so i shall brb ^^
[10:49] <robf> you on live?
[10:49] <GeffIsLegend> yeah haha
[10:49] <FloodBot1> GeffIsLegend: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:49] <robf> should be able to resync
[10:49] <robf> just umount the disks that are up
[10:49] <timahvo1> ziroday: hey sorted :D
[10:49] <robf> I spose you can do that then
[10:49] <robf> reboot
[10:49] <DevMonkeyX_> lol
[10:49] <abuzer> hii
[10:49] <DevMonkeyX_> what happend there
[10:49] <danboid> Apocalypse! Armageddon! Teh internets is dying!
[10:50] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> lol
[10:50] <DevMonkeyX_> run!!!!!!!
[10:50] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> that was weird
[10:50] <robf> geff,  this one line from your paste does so amaze men though...what exactly were you doing
[10:50] <robf> Partition number (1-4): ID Partition 2 as Geffislegend
[10:50] <mickeyd> i have an old laptop i need to recover some data off.. so i was planning on loading ubuntu up on a cd and copying the data that way. via a network..
[10:50] <DevMonkeyX_> mass internet cencership
[10:50] <mickeyd> but its too old for ubuntu
[10:50] <robf> mickeyd: lol
[10:50] <mickeyd> is there an older version i can?
[10:50] <robf> mickeyd: use a slack boot disk
[10:50] <robf> on floppies
[10:51] <robf> I have 43 of them right here... in my "Archive" box of ancient things
[10:51] <srx2002> it looks like I have a later driver installed
[10:51] <robf> well one is boot,  the rest just packages
[10:51] <robf> mickeyd: if you don't need a gui,  I suggest the gentoo minimal disc
[10:52] <mickeyd> hmm.. i think i need a gui for the networking part of it.
[10:52] <robf> hardly... but it'd make things easier I spose
[10:52] <mickeyd> so ubuntu is relativiely new isnt it?
[10:52] <robf> the minimal cd from gentoo wouldn't have nfs and all that crap on it
[10:52] <robf> nor could you really install it
[10:53] <robf> mickeyd: its relative... its based on debian which is an old crochety punter...
[10:53] <robf> so yes and no.
[10:53] <mickeyd> well this laptop is only 4-5 years old...
[10:53] <mikeshollen> Good morning folks, can anyone recommend a good video online for a new Ubuntu user with some how to stuff for the OS?  I can navigate the system and install/launch programs, but I'm looking for something to give me some of the finer tricks within the OS like how to initiate cube view.
[10:53] <mickeyd> the easiest way would be to take out the hdd but the dick who owns it wont let me.
[10:53] <robf> mikeshollen: video?
[10:53] <wers> how do I make aliases for code? like for example, making "install" work like "sudo apt-get install"? :D
[10:53] <robf> mikeshollen: just go read a tutorial
[10:54] <robf> wers: in .bashrc
[10:54] <robf> or whatever its called
[10:54] <robf> or maybe in .bash_aliases
[10:55] <oCean_> wers: don't alias commands to existing commands. 'install' is an existing command /usr/bin/install
[10:55] <robf> wers: alias apt-get='sudo apt-get' should do it
[10:55] <robf> stick that in .bashrc
[10:55] <wers> ooh. thanks gust
[10:55] <wers> *guys
[10:55] <wers> so i make a .bashrc file?
[10:55] <GeffIsLegend> problem wasnt fixed :-/
[10:56] <danboid> mickeyd: I'd recommend crunchbang linux
[10:56] <GeffIsLegend> this is really starting to tick me off, my computer is trash
[10:56] <robf> hahaha
[10:56] <danboid> Whicjh is based on ubuntub but will run in 64MB RAM
[10:56] <robf> what exactly is going on
[10:56] <robf> I'm confused here geff
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> wers: you'll need to run: source ~/.bashrc to instate the new changes
[10:56] <robf> here click on the installer ok?
[10:56] <GeffIsLegend> kk
[10:56] <robf> I'll take this to priv and walk ya through the manual
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> wers: the file is in ~/.bashrc
[10:56] <robf> method.
[10:56] <wers> nice
[10:56] <wers> imma look at it. wait
[10:56] <danboid> mikeshollen: You want compiz control centre installed for that
[10:57] <srx2002> I'm lost
[10:57] <danboid> mikeshollen: but you're gfx card needs to support 3D (glx) under Linux
[10:57] <administrator> ciao
[10:57] <administrator> !list
[10:57] <wers> what is /usr/bin/install? i dont have it
[10:58] <danboid> mickeyd: As for the networking tool you want wicd, prob
[11:00] <srx2002> I looked at the xorg.conf...doesnt seem to say anything about Intel driver being used really
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: thats why its not giving you full 3d, you need to edit the file (you'll need gksudo gedit or sudo nano) and add entrys similar to the site I gave you
[11:01] <mikeshollen> Does anyone have any experience installing WoW on Ubuntu?
[11:01] <oCean_> wers:  /usr/bin/install is from coreutils, copying files and setting attribs
[11:01] <TABASCO> Hi! I'm on Intrepid and my VLC can play everything but when I try to save a stream, he says he has no MPEG encoder... what do I have to install for that?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[11:02] <wers> oCean_, oh. i guess, i'll never use that so install is okay for my alias :D
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> TABASCO: sudo apt-get install mencoder
[11:02] <oCean_> wers: choose an alias something like "aptinst"
[11:02] <oCean_> wers: I really don't think you want to do that.. you might end up in trouble later on
[11:02] <TABASCO> ActionParsnip: Mencoder is already installed
[11:02] <wers> oh. okay will do :D thanks oCean_
[11:03] <oCean_> wers: add something like this in your .bashrc     alias aptinst='/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install'
[11:03] <srx2002> dAction: what was that url agian
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> TABASCO: then get the medibuntu plugins and you should be ok
[11:03] <mikeshollen> I'm still very new to Ubuntu and Linux (just installed it a few hours ago), how can I run commands in the GUI
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: http://zavizionov.blogspot.com/2007/09/howto-ubuntu-intel-945-widescreen.html
[11:03] <wers> yep. i did alias aptupup='sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade'. is that fine?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: you click icon, or you can bring up a terminal and type there
[11:04] <ezerhoden> mikeshollen: open a terminal, or alt+f2
[11:04] <hoo> tgyh
[11:04] <hoo> hi!
[11:04] <Name141> Is it possible to get 8.04.2 on a DVD?  I can only find 8.04.1
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Name141: torrents perhaps
[11:05] <Name141> I can't use torrents
[11:06] <bigbrova2> i love nafisa~
[11:06] <bigbrova2> .
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Name141: why not?
[11:06] <Name141> It does something to my Sat modem
[11:06] <Name141> and so does eMule
[11:06] <koshar2> mikeshollen jsut type them in, and if the bin (linux equiv to exe) is in your path it will execute, , and most installed commands SHOULD be in your path already
[11:06] <Name141> gnutella
[11:06] <Name141> I guess anything with high connections
[11:07] <mikeshollen> The first thing being suggested is to make sure DRI is enabled, but when I type glxinfo | grep rendering into the field and run it in terminal, nothing happens
[11:07] <mikeshollen> suggestions?
[11:07] <Name141> I guess they throttle it at the NOC or turn off our web acceleration
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Name141: http://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/ubuntu/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[11:08] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I guess this would be the best option since I don't have CD-Rs?
[11:08] <koshar2> Name141 there is no 8.04.2, 8.04.1 came out to fix a security hole that 8.04 had, the next release after 8.04 is 8.10, and the next WILL be 9.04 which will be released in april 09
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Name141: use the minimal cd and install via the web
[11:09] <Name141> I have no CD-Rs
[11:09] <Name141> (again)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Name141: have you tried setting the max download speed on your torrents to be a trickle instead of as fast as possible?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> could be a solution
[11:10] <Name141> koshar2: "Download URL: http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/ubuntu-cd/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso"
[11:10] <Name141> ?
[11:10] <Name141> :-|
[11:10] <koshar2> Name141 use a vm and install from iso, then partimage the install to a removable hdd, save the backup and restore to another partition
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Name141: set a max download speed limit, your isp may like you more
[11:10] <koshar2> Name141 or make a usb installer from vm
[11:11] <Name141> ActionParsnip: is this a ubuntu mirror that is offical
[11:11] <madakku> Hi all how can I set my ubuntu client machine to use ldap authentication?
[11:11] <Name141> http://cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/ubuntu/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[11:11] <Name141> that is
[11:12] <dragon_flam> any webkit-cURL person here
[11:12] <srx2002> Action: i untarred the new intel drivers....I'll paste the files in the package and can you tell me how to run them?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dragon_flam: its offtopic for here
[11:13] <thinkgnu> if i put e path on $PATH , should i logout-login to use that path files ?
[11:13] <srx2002> acinclude.m4  config.guess  configure     depcomp     Makefile.am  missing  uxa
[11:13] <srx2002> aclocal.m4    config.h.in   configure.ac  install-sh  Makefile.in  README
[11:13] <srx2002> compile       config.sub    COPYING       ltmain.sh   man          src
[11:13] <dragon_flam> ohh ok
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: i already gave you the solution, you dont need the driver files
[11:13] <Name141> ActionParsnip: this appears to be the CD ISO
[11:13] <srx2002> Action: it didnt work
[11:13] <Name141> which, I don't have CD-R's for
[11:13] <Name141> (again, again)
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Name141: quit with the again annoyance
[11:14] <madakku> Hi all how can I set my ubuntu client machine to use ldap authentication?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: then install build-essential and compile away
[11:14] <Name141> ActionParsnip:
[11:14] <Name141> ActionParsnip: OK
[11:14] <slade> buenos dias
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Name141: can't you just install .1 and then dist-upgrade to .2
[11:14] <Guest70287> good morning :P
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> whats the difference between the 2 anyhoo?
[11:15] <srx2002> install build essential
[11:15] <srx2002> over my head
[11:15] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I reckon so.  But I'm on unlimited bandwidth only from 1-5 AM.  And just wanted to download one that was up to date so I wouldn't be installing (so many) updates
[11:15] <bob123> is it bad to get a refurb? http://stores.channeladvisor.com/LenovoOutlet/Items/645l3g6345?&caSKU=645l3g6345&caTitle=ThinkPad%20T61%20Refurbished%20with%20Free%20Bag --- are refurb lenovo okay?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: its like any otehr program: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <koshar2> ActionParsnip one would just be a differnt snapshot
[11:15] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I have a "Fair Access Policy" of only 425 MBs in a rolling 24 hour period after 1-5 AM
[11:16] <bob123> lorenzou:
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> koshar2: I meant on the software, if its just later versions then an upgrade is ok
[11:16] <lorenzou> bob123: Hi.
[11:16] <bob123> :)
[11:16] <bob123> is it bad to get a refurb? http://stores.channeladvisor.com/LenovoOutlet/Items/645l3g6345?&caSKU=645l3g6345&caTitle=ThinkPad%20T61%20Refurbished%20with%20Free%20Bag --- are refurb lenovo okay?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Name141: i'd grab a buddy who can get you the iso, or use aptoncd to transfer the data you need
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bob123
[11:16] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I installed 8.04 from CD and it had over 250 MBs of updates ready to blow and go
[11:17] <srx2002> Reading package lists... Done
[11:17] <srx2002> Building dependency tree
[11:17] <srx2002> Reading state information... Done
[11:17] <srx2002> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:17] <srx2002> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:17] <FloodBot1> srx2002: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: then its installed, read the readme and compile away
[11:17] <bob123> sorry in there now
[11:17] <koshar2> Name141 thats not unusual for software 10 months old
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Name141: is intrepid no good for you?
[11:18] <Name141> koshar2: I thought the LTS was just about 3 months old
[11:18] <Myrtti> Name141: no, the latest lts is 8.04
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Name141: no, LTS means long term support, Intrepid will die when Jaunty arrives
[11:18] <Myrtti> Name141: which makes it published in April
[11:18] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: Intrepid has 18 months of support
[11:19] <Name141> ActionParsnip: that's correct.  It doesn't acquire an IP or something.  It makes my router light flash and twinkle like there's high data going, and I never can get online.
[11:19] <koshar2> ActionParsnip yes so it will die when kooky koala comes out
[11:19] <Name141> ActionParsnip: Never hard that issue with 8.04 LTS
[11:20] <Name141> had
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Name141: all I can suggest is aptoncd with someone with a better connection, or do the updates overnight
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: who thinks of these names....
[11:21] <koshar2> Name141 just do the updates a day later if you have a moving 24 hour window
[11:21] <Name141> koshar2: I wont get all hacked up like I would in windows if I waited 24 hours ?
[11:21] <koshar2> Name141 of course not,
[11:22] <wers> sometimes, when i upgrade through the terminal, i get "The following packages have been kept back:" how do I upgrade those packages using the terminal?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> wers: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> wers: check what they are first, you may not need them
[11:22] <koshar2> wers you wait untill theyre dependencys are released to the repos
[11:23] <wers> nice. thanks
[11:23] <salerno> ciao
[11:24] <salerno> !list
[11:25] <Caesi`> hullo.. can anyone help me with VPN under Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:25] <tomodachi> Caesi`: what do you want to do?
[11:26] <Caesi> tomodachi: I want to connect to a VPN but somehow that option is locked
[11:26] <damian_> about the cube look, i'm interested too
[11:26] <tomodachi> Caesi: network manager is just a gui
[11:26] <tomodachi> do you have any vpn client software installed?
[11:26] <ba2> hai
[11:26] <F-GT> anyone know how to fix a broken locale ?
[11:26] <tomodachi> what kind of vpn technology are you using?
[11:26] <mikeshollen> why don't I get a yes or a no when I run the command glxinfo | grep rendering with the terminal box checked?
[11:27] <Caesi> tomodachi: no
[11:27] <tomodachi> F-GT: dpkg --reconfigure locale maybe?
[11:27] <F-GT> nope
[11:27] <F-GT> tried
[11:27] <Caesi> tomodachi: I have the address and login data though
[11:27] <tomodachi> Caesi: ok well
[11:27] <tomodachi> thats wont help
[11:27] <tomodachi> you need to know the tech man!
[11:27] <Caesi> tech?
[11:27] <tomodachi> the technology
[11:27] <Caesi> hmm how dyou mean?
[11:27] <tomodachi> there are several different vpn technologies out there
[11:28] <Caesi> hmm
[11:28] <Caesi> ok
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: does glxinfo output what it should?
[11:28] <Caesi> I'll try n find out
[11:28] <F-GT> get a permission denied on locale-gen
[11:28] <volkswagner> f-gt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055762
[11:28] <mikeshollen> I don't know what it's supposed to output
[11:28] <mikeshollen> The WoW installer guide just said make sure it's active
[11:28] <mikeshollen> It doesn't seem to output anything
[11:29] <mikeshollen> the terminal window disappears right away after executing the command
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: its a tonne of stuff about your display and what your vga card can and cant do
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: run it from a terminal
[11:29] <Caesi> tomodachi: Point to Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) with Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption (MPPE)
[11:29] <mikeshollen> How do I open a terminal window besides altF2 and checking the "run in terminal" box?
[11:29] <Caesi> useful? :)
[11:29] <tomodachi> Caesi: yup
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !terminal
[11:30] <mikeshollen> could not find the file .../!terminal
[11:30] <tomodachi> Caesi: but more for you, google it :) but you need some packages for it i presume, dont think they're in ubuntu by default.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: read ubottus text
[11:31] <Caesi> k thanks tomodachi
[11:31] <ba2> I hope same body help me to use ubuntu
[11:31] <mikeshollen> ah sweet
[11:31] <mikeshollen> got it thanks guys
[11:32] <F-GT> thanks .. not sure if it's going to work tho
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> :-D np
[11:32] <oCean_> mikeshollen: this might be useful when just started using ubuntu: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html --free pdf download
[11:32] <F-GT> i seem to be getting a permission denied trying toreinstall the locales package
[11:32] <Gnirx> Hi. What would be the best way to install OOo 3 on my intrepid? I really need a good presentation program, and OO Presentation 2.4 keeps crashing on me...
[11:32] <F-GT> /usr/lib/locale is empty
[11:32] <mikeshollen> thank you very much
[11:32] <vigo> What do I need to get to install/upgrade SeaMonkey? it is a GTK
[11:34] <mandrakexx> hi all
[11:34] <erUSUL> !info seamonkey
[11:35] <anupam> hi guys imm facing a problem with my laptop
[11:35] <erUSUL> vigo: sudo apt-get install seamonkey ?
[11:35] <anupam> im new to ubuntu
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> !ask | anupam
[11:35] <anupam> and im unable to use my audio devices
[11:35] <anupam> plz help
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> !help | anupam
[11:35] <vigo> Thank you erUSUL: I have 1.1.2, I wanted to upgrade to 1.1.4
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> anupam, elaborate about your issue
[11:36] <anupam> i installed ubuntu yesterday
[11:36] <anupam> and im unable to ear any sound from the speaker
[11:36] <anupam> i even tried headphones
[11:37] <Yellow_dog> Hello
[11:37] <Synaptics1> Hi there
[11:38] <arvind_khadri> anupam, open the terminal and type alsamixer
[11:38] <rainmanp7> Gdmorning Everybody :)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[11:39] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, he left i guess
[11:39] <Synaptics1> I'm install vmware from synaptic but don't know how to run it. Can you help please?
[11:39] <anupam> dude
[11:39] <anupam> im here
[11:39] <anupam> alsamixer
[11:40] <oCean_> Synaptics1: have you installed v2.00 ?
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> anupam but the client says you aren;t
[11:40] <vigo> Let me try that,,,Thank you
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> anupam: room says you left
[11:41] <Synaptics1> oCean: v 0.22
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: oh well
[11:41] <iverson0881> hello all, i'm having a problem with .htaccess file not "accepting" [NC], anyone know what the problem might be?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !kooky
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: is .htaccess a file you are downloading or is it a file in ~/
[11:43] <oCean_> Synaptics1: vmware server is at level 2.0 atm see next link for detailed install instructions. In version v2.0 is a nice webinterface... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973729
[11:43] <robf> clear
[11:43] <robf> oops... not the right term methinks
[11:43] <Guest79506> can someone please help me...i want to set up a cron job to download a file from a server via ftp or preferably sftp
[11:43] <F-GT>  en_AU.UTF-8... /usr/sbin/locale-gen: 258: localedef: Permission denied
[11:43] <F-GT> failed
[11:43] <Synaptics1> oCean: Ok
[11:43] <F-GT> seems to happen on all the locales trying to set them up
[11:43] <_2> iverson0881 umm maybe i'm wrong, but wouldn't that be a question for #http
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest79506: make a script to download the file, then cron the script
[11:44] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: the file is self created for a website I'm working on, I develop on Mac and use MAMP to test the site on my localhost, but when i push the site to my Ubuntu machine, it doesn't understand Sample vs sample
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest79506: if you want to change the job, change the script and it will be complete
[11:44] <anupam> im facing a problem with my sound card
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> anupam: and your connection
[11:44] <anupam> yup thats true
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> anupam: run lspci, you can then use the line describing your soundcard to websearch
[11:45] <Guest79506> ActionParsnip: can i use php-cli?
[11:45] <SmileDay> hello
[11:45] <SmileDay> help me!
[11:46] <_2> related command   update-pciids
[11:46] <SmileDay> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[11:46] <SmileDay> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:46] <SmileDay> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[11:46] <SmileDay> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:46] <ratten> och vas tu je
[11:46] <anupam> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a31 (rev 01)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[11:46] <anupam> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[11:46] <anupam> 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[11:46] <anupam> 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
[11:46] <FloodBot1> anupam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <anupam> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 83)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE Controller (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:46] <zaggynl> !pastebin
[11:46] <SmileDay> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt => mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:46] <anupam> 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80)
[11:46] <anupam> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[11:46] <anupam> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[11:46] <anupam> 08:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> anupam: dont flood, its a GREAT way to get banned
[11:46] <anupam> 08:07.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
[11:47] <anupam> 08:07.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 0a)
[11:47] <anupam> 08:07.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev ff)
[11:47] <anupam> 08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[11:47] <SmileDay> help me! ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt => mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:47] <ratten> tohle neni CZ unut ?
[11:47] <anupam> sorry guys im new to ubuntu
[11:47] <anupam> and not a pro
[11:47] <anupam> i have no clue
[11:47] <zaggynl> !pastebin > anupam
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> anupam: and irc too, imagine if we ALL did that?
[11:47] <ziroday> pfft bit late FloodBot1
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> anupam: dude, pastebin that text so we can read it easier using the link ubottu gave you
[11:48] <anupam> where can i find paste bin
[11:48] <howtoo> is tracker not able to index gvfs mounted shares+
[11:48] <howtoo> ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !paste | anupam
[11:49] <F-GT> no suggestions for local-gen failing ?
[11:49] <F-GT> locale-gen
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !locale
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> F-GT: that may help
[11:50] <anupam> cant find it
[11:50] <F-GT> doesnt help unfortunately
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> anupam: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> anupam: paste the text there, click paste, give us the web page address you go to
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> you NEED to learn pastebin if you are going to use irc
[11:51] <F-GT> /usr/lib/locale is empty
[11:51] <SmileDay> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[11:51] <SmileDay> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:51] <SmileDay> Help me
[11:51] <anupam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/113165/
[11:51] <F-GT> locale-gen provides a permission denied
[11:51] <anupam> thanks
[11:51] <F-GT> as sudo or root
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> anupam: good work, use that in future. See how you conveyed all that text without making the room scrool like crazy?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> anupam: ok so you have a ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:52] <Guest79506> ActionParsnip: Don't worry i have found the answer, thanks
[11:52] <anupam> yup
[11:52] <anupam> i simply loved the layout and everything is so systematic here
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> anupam: ok so go websearch that up and see how it is installed
[11:53] <anupam> ok will do that
[11:54] <R34L1TY> Hey guys im back!
[11:54] <R34L1TY> .....with more questions
[11:54] <Chocotoff> hello...
[11:54] <filthpig> Hi all. Upgraded to Intrepid yesterday and it seems fine enough. However, when I try to use my webcam (Creative NX Pro) with Skype, the image is like a LSD trip, my face is green and the walls are purple.. In Hardy it was fine. With Cheese in intrepid it's also just fine, so I guess this bug is between the gspca driver and skype...
[11:55] <Hattory> Hi all... under kubuntu I can't start a chat with Hamachi... The other host of the LAN use Windows... in my GUI there isn't any chat options, suggests?
[11:55] <R34L1TY> it seems that ive got almost everything working and in order, except my sound card. I can play music normally with the provided software, but i dont have any sound in firefox web browser
[11:56] <Chocotoff> and there´s noone to answer the question :x
[11:56] <Chocotoff> hrhr
[11:56] <jaylc185> what's the question?
[11:56] <Chocotoff> question
[11:56] <Chocotoff> s
[11:56] <_2> R34L1TY umm that would be a setting in ff itself   configure it to output to alsa maybe
[11:57] <R34L1TY> i tried that, but it always wanted me to select my onboard sound, i couldnt figure out how to change the chipset
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !startup > harjot
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[11:58] <_2> R34L1TY ok, on the ubuntu forums there is a post about making a secondary sound card the default primary card    that should help
[11:58] <_2> R34L1TY sorry i don't recall the command off the top of my head
[11:59] <_2> !sound
[11:59] <R34L1TY> Alright, ill give that a look. Another problem i have, is when i boot up, the sound is outrageously loud, but after the initial logon noise, the audio is at a reasonable level
[11:59] <stz184> does someone has a Sweex KB100US illuminated keyboard?
[12:00] <Berserkur> How do I revert shortcut keys back to default when using the Keyboard shortcuts applet?
[12:00] <_2> R34L1TY ok that one should be as simple as running "alsamixer" setting the controls to something reasonable, and then running  "sudo alsactl store"
[12:00] <imaginativeone> where do my web files go in apache2?
[12:00] <Hattory> no ideas for the Hamachi problem?
[12:01] <Berserkur> I searched the bug database but could not find a bug about this. I would classify this as a bug as there is no obvious way of knowing how to revert shortcut keys back to default
[12:01] <R34L1TY> yeah thats also what i tried for that too, and same problem there. I couldnt change the alsamixer to read anything other than my onboard sound
[12:02] <_2> R34L1TY ah ok, address setting the default card and the other should take care of itself
[12:03] <Berserkur> Anyone know if this has been addressed before?
[12:03] <_2> R34L1TY simple solution, "not advised if you dualboot and want to use the onboard" is to disable the onboard sound in the bios
[12:04] <R34L1TY> oh, ive got ubuntu on a different computer. its the main OS, as windows restore CD's refuse to work any more
[12:06] <magooo> how to automatic share a disk on starting system?
[12:06] <magooo> how to automatic share a disk on system start??
[12:07] <rakudave> !samba | magoo
[12:07] <Synaptics1> oCean_: I follow all the instruction to install the vmware on my box like its describe here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973729 and no succed to setup the vmware
[12:07] <magooo> i have samba running here
[12:07] <magooo> so, i just want to auto share when start..
[12:08] <Synaptics1> oCean_: my kernel is version is 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP
[12:08] <rakudave> magoo: enter the shareoption into /etc/samba/smb.conf, that sould be active when you start
[12:08] <R34L1TY> Alright, one moment, switching over to the ubuntu beast ;)
[12:10] <magooo> rakudave, samba is running ok, local ubuntu sistem is shared, but I have other disk, (slave ntsf) here..
[12:10] <magooo> it's not shared by default..
[12:11] <bullgard4> I am using Gajim. If I am using in addition Audacious and switch off Audacious, Gajim will no longer produce sounds. How to repair this?
[12:12] <imaginativeone> bullgard4: how would anyone know that?
[12:13] <_2> why do computers that have no isa interface still have an isa bridge ?
[12:13] <bullgard4> imaginativeone: By using experience and/or intelligence.
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> _2: its compiled into the kernel :)
[12:13] <_2> ActionParsnip ;/   it's hardware
[12:13] <rakudave> magoo: then enter the path to the slave into smb.conf (something like /media/sdb1) manual: http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html
[12:13] <imaginativeone> bullgard4: perhaps.  but you can wait for your answer while reading a copy of Waiting for Godot
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> _2: true but surely if the ISA stuff iss part of the kernel, it will be seen by the system?
[12:14] <imaginativeone> guess which one you'll finish first?
[12:14] <_2> ActionParsnip  what i mean is, the hardware bridge is there, but there is no interface to it ?
[12:15] <_2> no hardware slot
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> _2: really, crazy stuff
[12:15] <_2> yeah
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> _2: maybe its in the mobo chipset still
[12:15] <_2> yes  it has to be eating resources
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> _2: recycling old tech n all
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> _2: if you compile all ISA out will it cease to use resources?
[12:16] <haptiK> hello
[12:16] <_2> heh,   you saying that they just "forgot" to remove it from the blueprints for the new chips    :)))
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> _2: kinda yeah
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> !hi | haptiK
[12:17] <_2> ActionParsnip ummm yes.  the bridge itself uses an algarythm in the chip  so there are cycles that pass through it.   granted that the amount of resources used there would be   negledigable scant    but still exist.
[12:18] <zaggynl> poor george
[12:18] <edgy> Hi, what package do  I need to install to have java in my firefox?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> edgy: are you 32bit or 64bit linux?
[12:19] <edgy> ActionParsnip: 64bit
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i'd suggest icedtea
[12:20] <_2> i'm also wasting resources having 64bit hardware and running 32bit software on it.
[12:20] <Caesi> Hi, can anyone help me with installing sunbird?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> edgy: sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[12:21] <_2> Caesi sudo apt-get install sunbird
[12:21] <edgy> ActionParsnip: this would install 100M of packages including openjdk!
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> _2: not if the software is only 32bit available
[12:21] <Caesi> _2: that's not the newest version :(
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !java | edgy
[12:21] <Caesi> I have the .tar.gz here, but I'm too stupid to install it :)
[12:21] <_2> Caesi it's the newest version supported by ubuntu
[12:22] <_2> !source
[12:22] <Felixonmars> Caesi: you should know what it is inside first
[12:22] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I already installed sun-java6-jre but openjdk is an alternative, no?
[12:22] <_2> !b-e | Caesi this page might help
[12:22] <Caesi> Felixonmars: well I unpacked it obviously
[12:22] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I thought sun's java would be better
[12:22] <Caesi> k thanks
[12:23] <Caesi> I tried to ./configure bla it, but not possible
[12:23] <Felixonmars> Caesi: some errors occurred?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> edgy: its only 32bit
[12:23] <Photoguy> How can I update or install Java?
[12:23] <_2> probably   bash: configure: command not found
[12:24] <ikonia> Photoguy: same as everyother package
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> !java | Photoguy
[12:24] <ikonia> Photoguy: open the package manager, search for java and install it
[12:24] <edgy> ActionParsnip: aha! so SUN itself has no 64bit support and the open source community managed to do it?!
[12:24] <Guest79506> is ssl configured by default in ubuntu
[12:24] <Berserkur> _2: About the ISA bridge. I think it's mainly for backwards compatibility for like PCCards and USB hardware
[12:24] <ikonia> Guest79506: ssl in what respect
[12:24] <haptiK> could someone help me to change a file to these perms please: -rw-r--r--
[12:24] <edgy> haptiK: chmod 644 yourfile
[12:25] <Photoguy> What do you think is the best version of Java?
[12:25] <ikonia> Photoguy: it depends on what is the right version for you
[12:25] <_2> Berserkur i understand that when touching software,  but not concerning hardware that has isa bridge but no interface to it at all.
[12:25] <Guest79506> ikonia: I want to use ftp via ssl to get a file from my web server...the script works using ftp but not sftp
[12:25] <haptiK> edgy: thanks alot for your help
[12:25] <ikonia> Guest79506: then thats going to be ssl on your server not setup
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> edgy: pretty much, yes
[12:26] <edgy> ActionParsnip: what about this: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com
[12:26] <BioNuc>  i have an issue when trying to mount my nokia N80 mobile as a device using obexfs - when i "ls" i see size equal to 0 what can i do?
[12:26] <edgy> ActionParsnip: there is 64-bit there
[12:26] <Guest79506> ikonia: the php script returns that it couldn't connect to me...
[12:26] <GNUtoo-desktop> hello, does someone knows well ubuntu's boot process? If I boot ubuntu's kernel,initd,userland and do a hdparm -tT /dev/md1 the performances are ok...if I boot ubuntu's kernel,initd,and gentoo userland(stop at mounting /proc and gives me a shell) I've horible hdparm -tT /dev/md1 results...so what could be the difference between the 2 setup(what /sys or parameters are passed from userland?)
[12:26] <bullgard4> I am using Gajim. If I am using in addition Audacious and switch off Audacious, Gajim will no longer produce sounds. How to repair this?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> edgy: sure, get the bin file and execute it in terminal
[12:26] <ikonia> Guest79506: yes, your sever does not have an ftp server running that is ssl enabled
[12:27] <Guest79506> ikonia: can i get around that..the server is a shared host
[12:27] <edgy> ActionParsnip: so if there is a bin file why not a .deb in ubuntu?
[12:27] <ikonia> Guest79506: you can install / configure ssh to use tls/ssl ?
[12:27] <ikonia> Guest79506: sorry - ftp
[12:27] <_2> BioNuc first check with   df   to see if the thing is mounted and the spaces that df reports.
[12:27] <BioNuc> any help regarding my bluetooth device mounted using obexfs showing a size of 0 while file sizes inside it is truely reflected
[12:28] <jrib> edgy: the jvm is in the repositories.   There is no plugin from sun afaik
[12:28] <Guest79506> ikonia: how?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> edgy: its a binary file, it hasnt been made into one. Just like the nvidia drivers from nvidia come in the same form
[12:28] <ikonia> Guest79506: what ftp server are you running ?
[12:28] <mrpurple> hello .. sincce one hour the hard disk of my notebook is working continuously. so that  i cant moove the mouse or type something .. how can i escape that ?
[12:28] <BioNuc> df don't list my device
[12:28] <Guest79506> ikonia: not sure what the server is running.
[12:28] <edgy> ActionParsnip: execuse me but nvidia driver is closed source and this is the reason it's  not packaged but java is open source
[12:29] <jrib> mrpurple: figure out what is accessing your disk using iotop for example?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> edgy: you will need to chmod +x the file to make it executable
[12:29] <_2> BioNuc using ls on the "mountpoint" will only return the size of the mountpoint,  ignore it.      see  ls -sh /  # for an example.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i neve said the java one was closed, i only said that its packaged similar, red what i type
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> *read
[12:29] <Berserkur> _2: You see. If some hardware wants to use ISA communication then the ISA bridge converts the signal from a PCI signal to a ISA signal and delivers the data to the OS
[12:30] <Berserkur> _2: If I understand the concept correctly
[12:30] <BioNuc> 8.0K BIONUC     0 cdrom  4.0K cdrom0     0 n80  4.0K sda3  4.0K sda4  4.0K sda6   28K windows  8.0K work
[12:30] <Photoguy> mrpurlpe, restart?
[12:30] <BioNuc> my mobile is n80 device
[12:30] <mrpurple> jrib: there is a key combination to let start it ? because like that i cannot do anything ... mouse is mooving sloowly and is not taking clicks
[12:30] <_2> Berserkur ok,  that makes perfect sense.  they supply the bridge as a filter.    thanks.
[12:30] <ikonia> Guest79506: contact your hosting provider then, they can help
[12:31] <jrib> mrpurple: you can't use your keyboard to get to a tty or start a terminal?
[12:31] <edgy> ActionParsnip: sorry I get a bit confused. would that bin install firefox plugin or is it just java?
[12:31] <ajuonline> I am running the live CD of 8.04.2, i want to do a netinst, as the media is corrupt i suppose. can I netinstall using the cd? without needing to download the netinstall cd?
[12:31] <BioNuc> _2 it stated it is 0 and by the way my mobile is n80
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> edgy: it'd install java runtime, you can then symlink the .so file to your plugins directory to get java in firefox
[12:31] <humbolt> how can I get kdiff3 to work with intrepid?
[12:31] <_2> BioNuc see.   4.0K sda3  4.0K sda4  <<<<   only the size ot the mountpoint   has nothing to do with what is mounted there.
[12:32] <ziroday> ajuonline: is the cd or the .iso corrupt?
[12:32] <mrpurple> jrib: no .. i can't ... since two weeks i have this problem .. and avery time happen  the only way i found is shutdown from the off button
[12:32] <BioNuc> _2 ok but i can't copy on the device
[12:32] <mrpurple> but i'd lioke understand why is doing that ?
[12:32] <jrib> mrpurple: have you tried using a different user?
[12:32] <R34L1TY> _2 I got it :D!
[12:32] <Guest79506> ikonia: they have sftp via port 22.  Is there a way to get php to connect?
[12:32] <batcoder-7> what irc client do you guys use?
[12:32] <jrib> !poll | batcoder-7
[12:32] <Egy-LoveR> hellooooooooooooo
[12:32] <R34L1TY> Sure enough all that was needed was to set the default sound card
[12:32] <_2> BioNuc that would be a permissions issue  assuming it is mounted rw
[12:32] <mrpurple> jrib: not yet
[12:33] <_2> R34L1TY good on ya mate
[12:33] <batcoder-7> jrib, what client do you use?
[12:33] <jrib> mrpurple: that would be something to try
[12:33] <BioNuc> _2 drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root    0 2009-02-03 14:33 n80       i am a root
[12:33] <jrib> batcoder-7: ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots, he'll give you a  list and their popularity
[12:33] <R34L1TY> i think im starting to get a grasp on this whole ubuntu thing :)
[12:33] <_2> BioNuc so only root can write there
[12:33] <mrpurple> jrib: ok but then how can i solve it ? for that user
[12:34] <jrib> mrpurple: well first we need to determine it's a user issue
[12:34] <batcoder-7> jrib, i was just goingto give irssi or w/e a try
[12:34] <BioNuc> _2 me as a root can't copy there
[12:34] <BioNuc> _2 i found a ticket on such an issue here http://dev.zuckschwerdt.org/openobex/ticket/31      but it is closed as invalid
[12:35] <jrib> batcoder-7: sure irssi is decent.   Try all of the ones BestBot tells you about and choose whichever you like the most
[12:35] <_2> R34L1TY the hardest step in learning linux, is forgetting everything you think you know about computers, so you can start without all the M$ interfearance.
[12:35] <edgy> ActionParsnip: and why this .so file is not available in sun-java6-jre?
[12:35] <BioNuc> _2 they state that it is fixed in new versions, i got them and compiled them but useless still get same problem
[12:35] <GNUtoo-desktop> ikonia, hi I am the one with the performance problem on gentoo but not on ubuntu, i've now booted ubuntu's kernel and initrd with gentoo's userland and it didn't change anything(it stopped at booting proc and gave me a shell so I did hdparm -tT /dev/md1) so I want  to look at the boot process from ubuntu userland
[12:35] <mrpurple> jrib:  ok so now i shutdown and i'll try with a new user
[12:36] <R34L1TY> _2 i see that. Im so used to being baby'd by the double click to install programs :D
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> edgy: no idea man, thats the plugin file you need though
[12:36] <jrib> mrpurple: google "raising skinny elephants" and try that
[12:36] <_2> BioNuc beyond the scope of my support, make it a general question  (not prepending my nick)  and see if anyone else knows more about it.
[12:36] <BioNuc> _2 ok thanks
[12:37] <_2> R34L1TY yep,  been there, done that.   glad to have gotten away from it now.
[12:37] <ikonia> Guest79506: tell your client to connect on 22
[12:37] <_2> BioNuc welcome.
[12:37] <BioNuc> guys, i mounted my bluetooth device using obexfs but it shows a size of 0 right now, any help in such an issue
[12:37] <bullgard4> I am using Gajim. If I am using in addition Audacious and switch off Audacious, Gajim will no longer produce sounds. How to repair this?
[12:38] <mrpurple> jrib:  the problema is that weven now is something that arrive like that .. there is no a .... ok i 'll give a look
[12:38] <R34L1TY> _2 Where is a good place to learn all the Terminal commands, as in how to install things, remove things, and general stuff everyone should know?
[12:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[12:38] <_2> !cli | R34L1TY this might be a good starting point.
[12:38] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ubuntu 8.04.2.
[12:39] <ikonia> bullgard4: ahhh, never mind, I'd read about a bug in 8.10
[12:39] <R34L1TY> _2 Thank you :)
[12:39] <BioNuc> i have an issue with obexfs, any help, i have a nokia n80 mobile device
[12:39] <kouya1> hi i have a problem with firefox in ubuntu, when i save a bookmark (drag it to the bookmark toolbar) it sticks. but after i  restart the bookmark is gone :S
[12:39] <_2> R34L1TY i have said several times that the installer should open   "man man"   like M$ installers open the EULA dialog
[12:40] <_2> R34L1TY you can't install unless you can find your way around in a man page  :)))
[12:40] <R34L1TY> _2; Two more things for now; I started with 7.10 from a CD i had, Then updated to 8.04 via System>Administration>Update Manager, But it doesnt seem to want me to update to 8.10, Am i doing something wrong?
[12:40] <R34L1TY> Yeah hehe :)
[12:40] <mrpurple> jrib: is a key combination to try if can stop hard disk running ?
[12:40] <technicallyhesri> Or "Stick it to the man"
[12:41] <jrib> mrpurple: no
[12:41] <R34L1TY> And secondly; Ive seen some user videos where they have a 3d desktop going on, Is that an addon? or does it come with ubuntu
[12:41] <_2> R34L1TY ummm  well,  careful you don't get my openion in place of a logical answer....
[12:42] <_2> R34L1TY imo yes. you are doing something wrong when trying to upgrade from stable LTS version to a short term and more buggy verstion...
[12:42] <rainmanp7> Can someone look at my boot chart and tell me what is slowing it down ?
[12:43] <R34L1TY> Oh, so 8.04 is good for the less than average user?
[12:43] <_2> R34L1TY but the "logical" answer would be, have you tried:  sudo apt-get update ;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:44] <R34L1TY> _2 I have not, ive just been relying on the Update Manager
[12:44] <Daemonax> Does anyone know of a fix for compiz, where say you have two maximized windows on top of each other, and you close the top one and it closes both?
[12:44] <ikonia> Daemonax: join #compiz-fusion
[12:44] <_2> R34L1TY yes. in my openion, the six month release cycle is too short, it rushes the developers into releasing things that they know are still problematic, which they then have to work the bugs out of, while normal users suffer jet lag
[12:45] <Daemonax> ikonia: thanks, that is a better idea.
[12:45] <rainmanp7> I need to get more then 30 Megs a second transfer on hard drive any Ideas ?
[12:45] <_2> R34L1TY but that's my openion.
[12:45] <_2> !lts | R34L1TY
[12:45] <R34L1TY> _2 I understand, I will continue to use 8.04 :D
[12:46] <yassine> while trying to compile a new kernel i get the following error msg http://rafb.net/p/LagAxo60.html  anyone here can tell me whats exactly wrong there please?
[12:47] <Chocotoff> Hello... I lost my samba init.d script, where can i get it back?
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Chocotoff: that was careless
[12:48] <gordonjcp> Chocotoff: how did you manage that?
[12:48] <Chocotoff> :)
[12:48] <Chocotoff> well, i deleted it hehe
[12:48] <Berserkur> Chocotoff: You could reinstall samba. Config files should not be deleted but backup just to be sure
[12:48] <_2> Chocotoff the samba package ?
[12:48] <gordonjcp> <rude gaelic word deleted>
[12:48] <gordonjcp> Chocotoff: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <name of package>"
[12:48] <gordonjcp> iirc
[12:48] <_2> Chocotoff or just pull the script out of the package
[12:49] <Chocotoff> yes, i will try that
[12:49] <Berserkur> Chocotoff: You could try sudo dpkg --configure samba
[12:49] <rainmanp7> I need to get more then 30 Megs a second transfer on my hard drive any Ideas ?
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[12:50] <Soyo> I am getting a CDROM I/O error whenever I try to install or re-install packages. This only started occuring since the last update. Any ideas?
[12:50] <FloodBot1> f100d: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <abd88> Does anyone know what the standard shortcuts are to split a terminal horizontally/vertically in Yakuake?
[12:50] <Photoguy> Does anybody know what the fastest (download speed) p2p client there is for Ubuntu?
[12:51] <abd88> Photoguy: torrent?
[12:51] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: Have you tried hdparm?
[12:51] <R34L1TY> _2 Thank you for the kind words and being supportive of my noobiness, Im going to read about the terminal, so if i dont respond, that is why :)
[12:51] <_2> R34L1TY good luck to your pinguin.
[12:51] <Photoguy> abd88 No, I mean that includes search, and all that...like Limewire.
[12:52] <abd88> ah, don't know about those, sry
[12:52] <rainmanp7> Berserkur can you look at my um bootchart thing and tell me what's up ? I have but it's running as scuzzi
[12:52] <Soyo> !cdrom
[12:52] <Soyo> !I/O error
[12:52] <Soyo> !I/O
[12:52] <Photoguy> Ok, then..Does anybody know what the best p2p client is?
[12:52] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: Alright, use pastebin
[12:53] <rainmanp7> Berserkur thanx
[12:53] <rainmanp7> Berserkur whats the ubuntu pastebin thing link again ?
[12:53] <Berserkur> Photoguy: I don't use p2p client but I hear emule or edonkey is poplular
[12:53] <Soyo> does anyone know how to re-install packages without a cdrom drive?
[12:54] <joaopinto> Soyo, you just need to disable the cdrom repository, and enable the network ones
[12:54] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: Don't know if there is an ubuntu pastebin but: http://pastebin.com/
[12:54] <Soyo> how do you do that?
[12:54] <Photoguy> Berserkur, I tried dreamule, but the download speed for a 4gb file never went above 30 kb/s, it was usually 3kb/s
[12:55] <rainmanp7> Berserkur I have a boot thing from the Bootchart thing in png format
[12:55] <Berserkur> Photoguy: Are you sure it's the p2p clients fault and not the uploaders fault?
[12:56] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: You could dcc me the thing
[12:56] <Photoguy> Berserkur, I'm not sure, but it only downloaded 1gb in about 5 days :P
[12:57] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: Or you could use an online gallery if you have such a thing
[12:57] <ikonia> Photoguy: the client isn't a factor - the network / other peoples are the issue
[12:57] <mib> hi
[12:57] <ikonia> Photoguy: there isn't a "faster" client - it's about the network you are on and the other users
[12:58] <mib> i have a problem in sound speaker
[12:58] <mib> in my ubuntu
[12:58] <Photoguy> ikonia, ok.
[12:58] <Chocotoff> Samba is working again... purging samba AND samba-common did the trick
[12:58] <rainmanp7> Berserkur Trying to Dcc now if you tell me how to do the online gallery thing i can do it :)
[12:59] <Guest79506> is there a cron gui in ubuntu?
[12:59] <mib> any suggestion?
[12:59] <Caesi> I'm trying to set up a Microsoft Exchange e-mail account in Evolution.. I can't push the Authenticate button in the setup, any idea why?
[12:59] <ikonia> Guest79506: not that I'm aware of, the shell interface is very easythough
[12:59] <Photoguy> ikonia I'm trying to download an .iso file for a game (which I own), i'm thinking some sort of direct download might be faster.
[12:59] <ikonia> easy though
[12:59] <jrib> Guest79506: gnome-schedule
[12:59] <ikonia> Photoguy: if you own the game - you don't need to download it
[12:59] <Photoguy> I know..
[12:59] <ikonia> Photoguy: great, so we don't need to talk about it
[12:59] <Chocotoff> maybe he lost the cd :)
[12:59] <Photoguy> Ikonia, I lost it it my house :P
[12:59] <Guest79506> jrib: thx
[13:00] <ikonia> Photoguy: well - it's not a client issue
[13:00] <Photoguy> ok
[13:00] <ikonia> jrib: that's handy to know, ta
[13:00] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: Try again
[13:00] <mib> let me know if there is any suggestion
[13:01] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: About the gallery thing. I was just suggesting it if you had something like that. You know like flickr or something of that sort
[13:01] <jerome_> Photoguy: If it's a popular game the P2P sources are probably poisoned by the publishers
[13:01] <boozer> hi how would i do this? let's say when i type 'hello' in the terminal, firefox will run
[13:01] <Guest79506> ikonia: the problem with ssl was that i needed to enable passive mode because the server couldn't connect through my firewall.
[13:01] <Photoguy> jerome_ ok, then what's the best way to download?
[13:01] <ikonia> Guest79506: thats not an ssl problem
[13:01] <jrib> boozer: put an alias in your ~/.bashrc (there are examples there)
[13:01] <_2> boozer alias hello=firefox
[13:01] <boozer> thanks :)
[13:01] <rainmanp7> Berserkur ok let me check flicker thing
[13:01] <Guest79506> ikonia:  But it worked
[13:02] <ikonia> Guest79506: yes - thats YOUR firewall problem, not an ssl problem
[13:02] <Berserkur> Photoguy: I would suggest using Torrent rather that emule or any of the p2p clients
[13:02] <Photoguy> ok
[13:02] <ikonia> Berserkur: I would suggest we stop talking about it
[13:02] <Photoguy> ikonia, don't worry, I'm all legal.
[13:02] <Guest79506> ikonia:  sure but it worked via ftp.  So I got stumped.
[13:02] <Caesi> ikonia: could you help me with Evolution and setting up a Microsoft Exchange account? :)
[13:02] <Photoguy> I only copy what I own.
[13:03] <ikonia> Caesi: what's the issue ?
[13:03] <mib> anyone could help me with audio problem in my ubuntu
[13:03] <Caesi> ikonia: in the setup, I can't press the "Authenticate" button to check my login name etc. and therefore can't press "Forward"
[13:04] <ikonia> Caesi: oh, is all the details you need to fill in filled in ?
[13:04] <Caesi> ikonia: yes
[13:04] <Caesi> ikonia: screenie helpful?
[13:04] <ikonia> Caesi: maybe
[13:05] <rainmanp7> Berserkur ok I got a flicker image uplaoded here http://www.flickr.com/photos/34993488@N05/3250582974/
[13:06] <boozer> is name of the terminal "konsole"? :-?
[13:06] <Caesi> ikonia: can I just send it to you?
[13:07] <ikonia> Caesi: stick it on a webhost somewhere
[13:07] <Caesi> ok
[13:07] <Caesi> I thought you'd say that ;)
[13:07] <_2> boozer one might find a good use for things like that, sudo apt-get install serfraw ; alias google="sr google" ;alias howto="sr slinuxdoc" ;alias wikipidia="sr wikipidia"
[13:07] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: And what seems to be the problem?
[13:08] <dr_Willis> Konsole = the kde 'terminal' application
[13:08] <rainmanp7> Berserkur nothing really just wondering if it could boot any faster ?
[13:08] <Soyo> I lost my GUI is there any way to stop things from listing past the end of the page? For example, I try dppkg -l and can only see from X down. I cannot scroll up because all I have is the command prompt. Excuse my french but in MS-DOS you can use /p on most commands to limit it to one page at a time. Is there any way to do this in Linux (Ubuntu).
[13:08] <_2> boozer then command   wikipidia search  # would be a keyword for the browser to look for.
[13:08] <kenalex> can games like world of warcraft run in Ubuntu (4 bit) ?
[13:08] <ikonia> kewln00b: what ?
[13:08] <Caesi> ikonia: http://www.yousendit.com/download/WnBSZGlpSWV3NUozZUE9PQ
[13:08] <Berserkur> rainmanp7: How long does it take to boot?
[13:09] <ikonia> kenalex: what ? 4 bit ? game looks like world of warcraft ?
[13:09] <kewln00b> can someone tell me what gtk is and why that word is used so often in da desktop screenshotz threads on da forumz
[13:09] <kenalex> sorry i meant 64bit
[13:09] <_2> anyway i'm out.   gooday and good luck to your pinguin
[13:09] <rainmanp7> Berserkur on that link I just showed you the image in flicker the bootchart at the top says 25 seconds
[13:09] <rainmanp7> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34993488@N05/3250582974/
[13:09] <ikonia> Caesi: out of interest can you ping your exchange server
[13:09] <Berserkur> Soyo: Have you tried shift+page up or page down?
[13:10] <Caesi> ikonia: maybe I should add that Evolution asks for my default key ring bla, which I don't really understand (didn't set up a PW for that?)
[13:10] <kenalex> and i meant warcraft and other windows games
[13:10] <Soyo> no
[13:10] <Caesi> ok
[13:10] <Guest79506> if your computer is off when a cron job is scheduled will the job ever run?
[13:10] <Soyo> but I will
[13:10] <ikonia> kenalex: it's a graphic library
[13:10] <ikonia> kenalex: investigate wine
[13:10] <gordonjcp> Guest79506: no
[13:10] <Soyo> works in irssi
[13:10] <kenalex> ok
[13:10] <Caesi> ikonia: I'm actually in the VPN of that server, so everything's fine
[13:10] <Soyo> thanks
[13:10] <magooo> anyone runs adobe in ubuntu??
[13:11] <ikonia> Caesi: I'm wondering if because your canceling your keyring it can't authenticate, the only time I've seen the authentication button not available is when it can't "see" the server, so it doesn't enable authentication
[13:11] <kewln00b> magooo
[13:11] <kewln00b> i do
[13:11] <kewln00b> ask me how
[13:11] <ikonia> Caesi: you may have to end up logged a bug
[13:11] <magooo> how?
[13:11] <Guest79506> gordonjcp: is there a way to get a cron to run at some point during the day when the computer is on?
[13:11] <ikonia> magooo: adobe what ?
[13:11] <scribawf> Using Grub trying to load 2.6.27-11 generic, I get a error 11 Unrecognized Device String  - what's the cure for this?  Please
[13:11] <jrib> Guest79506: use anacron
[13:11] <magooo> ps, illustrator.. flash