[03:18] <jobezone> babelfishi: maybe:) I'm pretty ignorant on these wireless matters! Just was looking at thread, and thinking of stuff you could try :)
[03:18] <Xenguy> MrProper__: barf to text files and run diff   ?
[03:19] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'm almost completly new to linux - i'm not sure...
[03:19] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'll give it a try...
[03:19] <eneried> i want an application like ACDSee in ubuntu, do you know one?
[03:19] <MrProper__> Xenguy, i was hoping to use the inbuilt --compare option to tar, but tar seems to ignore files that are not in the archive and doesnt seem to give an option to tell me that
[03:19] <benoy> when i type in "ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>It asks for the password, which i enter correctly.  Then I get access to the school's server.  When I type in matlab, it gives me a textbased environment rather than a gui window but if I do the same steps on my ubuntu computer, I get a graphical interface which is what I need because I need to deal with graphs and other visual aids.
[03:20] <konfuzed> MrProper__, you could do an incremental update with tar and tell it to only list what it would do and the output gives your answer
[03:20] <plex0r> what i need is to get my orinoco wireless card working ASAP
[03:20] <plex0r> :(
[03:20] <biovore> benoy: x forward?
[03:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: it still doesn't work
[03:21] <jobezone> babelfishi: from the thread, it seemed the biggest obstacle you had was that the  prism2_usb module wasn't loaded automatically.
[03:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: yes, do you know how to fix it?
[03:21] <eneried> benoy, you need a vnc client
[03:21] <eneried> does anybody know a good image viewer like ACDSee but for ubuntu?
[03:21] <cva> benoy: what do you mean you get a graphical interface? the -X means that it will forward X data. So you could run, say xclock on the cleint and it would appear on your local system.
[03:22] <Xenguy> eneried: gqview is one
[03:22] <MrProper__> konfuzed,  how do you mean an incremental update?
[03:22] <whaley> btw, is edubuntu prounounced "ee-dee-you-buntu" or "edge-oo--buntu"
[03:22] <eneried> Xenguy, and  i can install it trough synaptic?
[03:22] <jobezone> babelfishi: no :( It's strange that for the others in the thread, it was loaded, and not yours. Anyway, when you did 'modprobe prism2_usb' it loaded the module. But it still doesn't work. Perhaps you could say that in that thread, and get more help.
[03:22] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks
[03:22] <Xenguy> eneried: apt-cache show gqview
[03:23] <jobezone> babelfishi: also, make sure you know the exact piece of hardware you have
[03:23] <rcoelho> i just wanted to say hello...this is my first time using linux, and it is damn cool.
[03:23] <Xenguy> eneried: or use synaptic
[03:23] <eneried> Xenguy, thanks ;)
[03:23] <rcoelho> why do people use windows?
[03:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: exact?
[03:23] <meheren> hey
[03:23] <Xenguy> eneried: yw
[03:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: is netgear ma111 usb good enough?
[03:23] <meheren> trae, you on?
[03:23] <SoulPropagation> is it possible to install ubuntu PPC from an x86 box? (the hard drive will be moved over to a ppc box post-install)
[03:23] <Isaac-Lew> I thought it waas ed-you-buntu
[03:24] <Xenguy> rcoelho: because they don't know yet that there are alternatives ?
[03:24] <benoy> ok, i'm confused.
[03:24] <orbin> _jason: ping
[03:24] <NickGarvey> benoy: you don't want vnc I don't think
[03:24] <konfuzed> MrProper__, I dont recall the option but once you have a tar file you can tell tar to do it again but dont bother if the file hasnt cahnged
[03:24] <jobezone> babelfishi: I don't know, sorry!  But anyway, you seem sure to know what hardware you have.
[03:25] <SoulPropagation> whaley: I thought it was ed-ubuntu
[03:25] <orbin> _jason: thanks for the effort w/ the winamp skin. looks like the buttons were just switched though ... the eq button toggles the playlist, the pl button toggles the equalizer
[03:25] <whaley> SoulPropagation, yet another possibility!
[03:26] <e-sin> yay it's back!
[03:26] <_jason> orbin: hmm so it didn't work?
[03:26] <benoy> oh yeah
[03:26] <benoy> true
[03:26] <benoy> let me see
[03:27] <orbin> _jason: not quite no.  i actually had a look myself at the .bmp files.  i couldn't work out how it all works :-/
[03:27] <NickGarvey> benoy: when windows fails, use linux :), which basically means use linux all the time
[03:27] <jobezone> babelfishi: just as a longshot, I saw mentioned in that that thread about you needing a t76c503 driver.
[03:27] <benoy> lol
[03:27] <joshritger> does anyone know how to autologin on xubuntu?
[03:27] <jobezone> babelfishi: you could try 'sudo modbprobe t76c503'
[03:27] <_jason> orbin: mind joining me in offtopic?
[03:27] <babelfishi> jobezone: i'll give it a try..
[03:27] <joshritger> I tried the xubuntu forum but no help there
[03:28] <jobezone> babelfishi: but I'm not sure the person saying that was talking about a module/driver, or the specific name of your hardware.
[03:28] <babelfishi> jobezone: unoh: FATAL: Module t76c503 not found.
[03:29] <jobezone> babelfishi: right, that wasn't a name for a module (driver). just trying. They say in the thread that the module you need is prism2_usb, which you loaded, and still didn't work..
[03:29] <jobezone> babelfishi: try saying that in that thread.
[03:29] <liquidindian> Is there a way to restart gnome without restarting my computer?
[03:30] <babelfishi> jobezone: just did.
[03:30] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks for the help, i g2g
[03:30] <jobezone> babelfishi: did you eventually learn how to install the linux-wlan-ng package?
[03:30] <joshritger> can anyone tell me how to autologin in xubuntu, i tried xubuntu forum with no help
[03:31] <cva> liquidindian: you can logout and back in, or if it's locked up, then use ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:31] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[03:31] <poningru> joshritger: what do you mean autologin?
[03:31] <joshritger> i want it so i dont need a password
[03:31] <poningru> oh...
[03:32] <joshritger> i want it to load to my desktop without password and in xfce ican't find a way to change it
[03:32] <jmg> zero666: you cant make files in the root dir unless you sudo
[03:32] <joshritger> xfce runs much faster than gnome on my comp so i wanna try using xfce
[03:32] <specialbuddy> !firefox
[03:33] <NickGarvey> !tell specialbuddy about ff1.5
[03:33] <jmg> zero666: you have admin rights, which allows you to become the root user by using sudo
[03:33] <orbin> joshritger: are you running xubuntu, or ubuntu w/ xfce installed?
[03:33] <zero666> jgm ah so i would type something like "sudo mkdir /root/name of dir"
[03:33] <joshritger> xubunut
[03:33] <joshritger> xubuntu
[03:33] <jmg> !tell zero666 about sudo
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: yes
[03:34] <zero666> ah thanks for all the help i think i should be able to get some where now
[03:34] <ablyss> who had the question about auto login?
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: why did you /n {anna}O?
[03:34] <jmg> zero666: try to get someone to help by pretending to be a girl?
[03:34] <phewl> where is the kernel's .config file ?
[03:34] <zero666> thanks my wifes nick i forgot to change it when i loged on lol
[03:35] <NickGarvey> haha
[03:35] <orbin> ablyss: joshritger
[03:35] <jmg> zero666 hahaha
[03:35] <ablyss> ty orbin
[03:35] <joshritger> orbin?
[03:35] <jmg> well i gotta rest up laters all
[03:35] <ablyss> joshritger, type sudo gdmsetup and set yourself to login w/ 5 seconds
[03:35] <s|k> are programs installed in /usr/lib or /usr/bin ?
[03:35] <joshritger> k
[03:35] <joshritger> thanks
[03:35] <orbin> ablyss: oh, so xubuntu uses gdm too?
[03:36] <jmg> orbin: yes cause xdm is uuuuuuuuuuuuuugly
[03:36] <tritium> s|k: /usr/bin
[03:36] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:36] <Beawolfe> Evening All!
[03:36] <ablyss> orbin, yes far as i know gdm is used by the sytem regardless of window manager
[03:36] <joshritger> thanks so much
[03:36] <orbin> jmg: oh. :)
[03:36] <dli> what's the ubuntulinux.nl sources.list a-matic link?
[03:36] <orbin> ablyss: thanks.
[03:36] <s|k> tritium: thanks
[03:36] <zero666> thanks for the help night all
[03:37] <crimson> What causes this error... checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:37] <_sHaDe> notte a tutti :)
[03:37] <tritium> s|k: dpkg -L <packagename> will list the files in a package, fyi
[03:37] <orbin> crimson: do you have build-essential installed?
[03:37] <crimson> orbin: lemme check
[03:37] <phewl> where is the kernel's .config file ?
[03:37] <jobezone> crimson: or you are compiling a program in a directory which you have no permissions to write to.
[03:38] <punkrawkpat> !java
[03:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:38] <babelfishi> jobezone: yeah, i have it installed
[03:38] <FearMoth> what's the command to install a script into /etc/init.d ?
[03:38] <tritium> phewl: /boot/
[03:38] <bimberi> phewl: /boot
[03:38] <punkrawkpat> !javadebs
[03:38] <tritium> FearMoth: you'll want to use update-rc.d
[03:38] <FearMoth> thanks, just forgot what it was called
[03:38] <crimson> jobezone: no
[03:38] <NickGarvey> update-rc.d is ubuntu?
[03:39] <orbin> crimson: if you need to check, then you probably haven't
[03:39] <tritium> NickGarvey: it's available in ubuntu, yes
[03:39] <jobezone> babelfishi: could you run 'lpsci' and paste the result in the Pastebin?
[03:39] <crimson> orbin: it's working, thank you
[03:39] <NickGarvey> oh cool
[03:39] <FearMoth> tritium: is there an opposite of update-rc.d to remove?
[03:39] <babelfishi> jobezone: i just realized something
[03:39] <tritium> FearMoth: same command can do both
[03:39] <babelfishi> jobezone: it's at76c503
[03:39] <NickGarvey> downdate? ;)
[03:40] <babelfishi> jobezone: and i think it runs: modprobeat76c503
[03:40] <babelfishi> jobezone:  modprobe at76c503, but when i type sudo ifup wlan0, it still fails
[03:41] <jobezone> babelfishi: try 'sudo modprobe 76c503a'
[03:41] <MrProper__> konfuzed, i know the update option but what is the one to tell me what its going to do without performing it (like a pretend option)
[03:41] <babelfishi> jobezone: @ubuntu:~/$ sudo modprobe 76c503a
[03:41] <babelfishi>  FATAL: Module 76c503a not found.
[03:41] <Beawolfe> Question for someone....(noob here).....I have found out what "sudo" does...but I cant seem to find the "bash" command....what is it and what does it accomplish?
[03:41] <joshritger> does anyone know how i can configure x11vnc
[03:42] <joshritger> does it automatically run on startup?>
[03:42] <sethk> Beawolfe, it is the command shell
[03:42] <jobezone> babelfishi: ok, so you got the module name right.
[03:42] <sethk> Beawolfe, actually it is one of the available command shells.
[03:42] <jobezone> try adding it to the /etc/modules file.
[03:42] <Beawolfe> okay
[03:43] <babelfishi> jobezone: any more ideas?
[03:43] <jobezone> babelfishi: this file tells which modules are run at boot. add 76c503 (the one that worked) to it at the end, and reboot.
[03:43] <pear-i> Hey does anyone know how to configure a wireless card to a WEP protected router? the GUI doesn't seem to be working at all (although the drivers and such are all set up)
[03:43] <jobezone> babelfishi: may be that a reboot, and loading the module at boot, works... but, this is just a guess.
[03:43] <babelfishi> jobezone: ummm - what file?
[03:44] <Beawolfe> then what is the difference from opening a terminal thru applications and Alt-F2 which is what someone told me to do the other night?
[03:44] <jobezone> babelfishi: /etc/modules
[03:44] <jobezone> write the module name at the end, in a new line
[03:45] <juztin> how do i extract a file of type bz2?
[03:45] <pear-i> beawolfe (there is basically no difference except you're still under X when you open the terminal)
[03:45] <jobezone> do it with 'sudo nano /etc/modules' or 'sudo gedit /etc/modules' if you prefer using gedit.
[03:45] <sethk> Beawolfe, you have a screen to work with instead of one line
[03:45] <sethk> Beawolfe, and you don't type anything to get to the point of typing a command.
[03:46] <UWBP> does anyone use Acer Aspire 1692WLMi?
[03:46] <sethk> Beawolfe, you can change the environment in the shell before running a command
[03:46] <pear-i> does anyone know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces ? *
[03:46] <sethk> Beawolfe, there are hundreds of reasons
[03:46] <Beawolfe> okay Thanx...I can see it is going to take a few days to get used to all of this again
[03:46] <sethk> pear-i, yes, but why not just use network-admin?
[03:46] <rishi> hey guys, i downloaded a movie in its decryption format (vob, etc) how do i burn it on to a playable DVD/??
[03:46] <pear-i> for some reason it doesn't work
[03:46] <babelfishi> jobezone: shouldn't it be at76c503
[03:47] <sethk> pear-i, does it make changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:47] <pear-i> I had the same problem back in hoary -- but fixed it by editing the interfaces file
[03:47] <pear-i> yah but my wifi card won't connect to the router -- no access points
[03:47] <jobezone> babelfishi: yes, it should be the done that worked when you 'modprob'ed it. That gave no error message.
[03:47] <pear-i> using native support truemobile 1150 btw *
[03:47] <sethk> pear-i, then it isn't try that it doesn't work.  what happens is that it does work, but the configuration doesn't work properly
[03:47] <Beawolfe> the command structure is a little differnt but it does remind me of the old days of key banging Ms Dos
[03:47] <babelfishi> jobezone: ok - brb
[03:48] <sethk> pear-i, if you edit the interfaces file, or network-admin edits the interface file, the result is the same
[03:48] <pear-i> oh
[03:48] <pear-i> any idea how i can fix that with the 'right' configurations?
[03:48] <juztin> how do i extract a file of type bz2?
[03:48] <sethk> juztin, you don't, bz2 is a compression type
[03:48] <sethk> juztin, what you mean is how do you extract from tar.bz2, probably
[03:49] <rishi> hey guys, i downloaded a movie in its decryption format (vob, etc) how do i burn it on to a playable DVD/??
[03:49] <sethk> juztin, that answer is tar xvjf filename
[03:49] <juztin> sethk, oh ok...how do i do that? :P
[03:49] <yipe> why is the newest version of firefox NOT in the repository?
[03:49] <juztin> sethk, ah, thx :)
[03:49] <yipe> I mean..... how weird is that?
[03:49] <pear-i> right now i have:
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-essid HHH
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-mode managed
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-keymode restricted
[03:49] <pear-i> wireless-key ********
[03:49] <Hexidigital> !ff1.5
[03:49] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:50] <yipe> thanks!
[03:50] <Hexidigital> np
[03:50] <jobezone> juztin: or wait until June the 1st :)
[03:50] <pear-i> any idea whats wrong w/ that * ?
[03:53] <Zardiac> How do i make gdm and gnome and everything to run on screen 1 instead of 0??
[03:54] <yourwelcome> hello!everyone
[03:54] <imbroglio> quick question, what do i change to give sudo permissions to all
[03:54] <yourwelcome> I am new to the ubuntu.
[03:55] <pear-i> imbroglio -- thats probably a bad idea
[03:55] <NickGarvey> hello :)
[03:55] <MHobbit> Welcome ;-)
[03:55] <imbroglio> true, if this was a public terminal or i had others using it that doesn't understand linux
[03:55] <NickGarvey> imbroglio: man visudo I think would help, if not theres a little howto when you run visudo
[03:55] <imbroglio> my bro and i have used slack for the past 4 years and i am new to this whole sudo thing
[03:56] <yourwelcome> any chinese here??
[03:56] <pear-i> but i guess if you want just ability to sudo admin > system > user and groups i think you can set it here
[03:56] <babelfishi> jobezone: nope - back to ethernet cord
[03:57] <orbin> yourwelcome: #ubuntu-zh
[03:57] <Xilo> fdsa
[03:57] <jobezone> mithro: use the 'visudo' command. To give the new user the same sudo previliges(?) as the main user, add at the end 'username  ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: did you run 'lpsci'? to see the specific hardware name?
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: uhh...
[03:59] <jobezone> imbroglio: use the 'visudo' command. To give the new user the same sudo previliges(?) as the main user, add at the end 'username  ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: command not found
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: sorry, it's lspci
[03:59] <jobezone> babelfishi: I keep making this mistake!
[03:59] <babelfishi> jobezone: 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 12)
[03:59] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 12)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[04:00] <NickGarvey> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:08.0 Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 08)
[04:00] <babelfishi> 0000:02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
[04:00] <babelfishi> ...oops
[04:00] <babelfishi> my bad guys
[04:00] <jobezone> babelfishi: you should have used the Pastebin website mentioned in the topic ::)
[04:01] <Optic> hey, have any of you made mathmatica work on xubuntu?
[04:01] <tritium> babelfishi: pastebin next time, okay?  ;)
[04:01] <Hobbsee> babelfishi: sheesh.  do not paste in here!
[04:01] <babelfishi> sorry guys...
[04:01] <babelfishi> jobezone: any ideas?
[04:02] <_jason> Optic: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mathematica ?
[04:02] <jobezone> babelfishi: could you paste it in the website mentioned in the topic, so I can look at it?
[04:02] <Optic> woo!
[04:02] <babelfishi> jobezone: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=961291#post961291
[04:03] <babelfishi> jobezone: another related topic - different approch: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111913&highlight=netgear+MA111
[04:03] <holycow> *hmmm*
[04:03] <holycow> okay, isn't a dist-upgrade supposed to upgrade all packages?
[04:03] <holycow> i have a few things like openoffice that remain waiting for an upgrad e... any way to force absolutely all packages to upgrade?
[04:04] <jobezone> babelfishi: but I'd like to see the lspci output :)
[04:04] <dli> holycow, sudo apt-get -f --yes upgrade
[04:04] <dli> holycow, you may have to quit synaptic to use apt-get
[04:04] <keithhhh1> I currently run a dual boot system and I was wondering does anyone think it should be easy to export firefox's passwords from windows to linux???
[04:05] <babelfishi> jobezone: i just posted above...^
[04:05] <holycow> i know that ... that comman is clever i didnt' know about that ... it doesn't work tho
[04:05] <mram> you have to quit synaptic to use apt-get, synaptic is a gui for apt-get
[04:05] <dli> holycow, never say "it doesn't work", be more specific
[04:06] <holycow> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded. <--
[04:06] <babelfishi> jobezone: here....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12964
[04:06] <dt-oz-gc> imbrandon-, make each user a member of the admin group.  I'm looking at something...
[04:07] <dt-oz-gc> imbrandon-, Sorry that was for someone who I see has just left :-)
[04:08] <dli> holycow, you can use "apt-get -f install foo", apt keep it back, but upgrading would remove other installed packages
[04:08] <bimberi> holycow: if a package that could upgrade depends on a package version that isn't available in your enabled repos
[04:08] <holycow> *nod* of course but thats silly no matter how its frased
[04:09] <yourwelcome> could anybody now how to bind two dial in pppoe line in the ubuntu?
[04:09] <holycow> a dist upgrade i think should whack the whole set of packages in there, i'm  not really interested in fixing this manually despite the fact that i can
[04:09] <holycow> bimberi, ah *hmm* okay i see what your saying
[04:09] <NickGarvey> holycow: apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade usually upgrades everything
[04:09] <holycow> i was using 2.0 oo from another repo, that would explain it holding back, makes sense
[04:09] <jobezone> babelfishi: which version of linux are you running (run 'uname -r' to know)
[04:09] <SoulPropagation> Is there any way to dump the contents of the install disc onto a hard disk and install from that dumped partition
[04:09] <holycow> NickGarvey, they don't bro
[04:10] <dli> NickGarvey, I think dist-upgrade still keeps some packages back
[04:10] <holycow> as per bimberi's comments there is intelligence there that makes some analytical decisions, in my case i guess its beause i had other repos in there and it couldn't satisfy dependencies
[04:10] <babelfishi> jobezone: @ubuntu:~$ uname -r
[04:10] <babelfishi> 2.6.12-10-386
[04:10] <pear-i> anyone think they can help me in configuring /etc/network/interfaces? - i'm having trouble w/ connecting to my wireless router (access point)
[04:10] <holycow> i'll haveto poke around more and add this info to the wiki
[04:11] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:11] <holycow> thx for the heads up bimberi
[04:11] <wm0t> lol
[04:11] <bimberi> holycow: attempting to apt-get install one of the "not upgraded" packages might give more clues
[04:11] <intelikey> that link might help pear-i ^
[04:11] <bimberi> holycow: np :)
[04:11] <wm0t> ok does anyone know how to "hack" the uptime? as in modify the output of the uptime command?
[04:11] <pear-i> thanks cause the gui isn't really helping me much :p
[04:11] <pear-i> i'll try it tho
[04:12] <jobezone> babelfishi: yep, that's the most recent one of breezy...
[04:12] <babelfishi> jobezone: mhm
[04:12] <orbin> wm0t: cheating in an uptime competition? :P
[04:12] <wm0t> ok does anyone know how to "hack" the uptime? as in modify the output of the uptime command?
[04:12] <wm0t> orbin kinda
[04:12] <wm0t> lol
[04:12] <yourwelcome> wherer can i get the firewall doc ??
[04:12] <orbin> wm0t: just edit the text then :P
[04:13] <wm0t> no
[04:13] <wm0t> i need to
[04:13] <wm0t> change the proc file
[04:13] <wm0t> or we
[04:13] <intelikey> wm0t why would you want to do that ?     but i can think of a few ways.  the easiest is make a warper script for the command and cause it to mod the output.
[04:13] <wm0t> oh
[04:13] <wm0t> any other ways intelikey?
[04:14] <intelikey> write dirrectly to the process table.... (not the best idea i'ne ever had.)
[04:14] <_jason> wm0t: alias uptime to echo forever
[04:14] <jobezone> babelfishi: the networking applet
[04:14] <orbin> yourwelcome: what firewall?
[04:14] <farruinn> wm0t: A script is the easiest. Maybe take a look at awk and similar
[04:15] <jobezone> babelfishi: the networking window in System->Administration doesn't find the wireless hardware?
[04:15] <babelfishi> jobezone: no
[04:15] <orbin> _jason: lol
[04:15] <wm0t> well.. intelikey you cant write to /proc/uptime because it gets overwritten
[04:15] <intelikey> wm0t hehhe  set the cmos time to a year ago and reboot.  then set the clock  ????
[04:15] <wm0t> lol
[04:15] <babelfishi> jobezone: only finds my ethernet connection - default gateway device is eth0
[04:16] <_jason> intelikey: does that really work?
[04:16] <wm0t> no
[04:16] <harisund> How does the machine calculate uptime anywa?
[04:16] <intelikey> _jason i've never tried it.
[04:16] <harisund> Does it have a timer of its own?
[04:17] <intelikey> but all clocks can be manipulateddd
[04:17] <wm0t> it seem sso
[04:17] <bimberi> alias uptime='echo "A very long time."'
[04:17] <bimberi> :P
[04:17] <jobezone> babelfishi: this may not be helpfull, but you could report it as a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-wlan-ng/+bugs (you'll need to register). In the bug report, explain everything you've done, and also link the ubuntuforums thread for reference.
[04:18] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?:)
[04:18] <prospero2005> Is there a way I can tell if I am running Dapper besides looking at the sources.list?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: cat /etc/issue
[04:19] <_jason> prospero2005: lsb_release -c
[04:19] <bimberi> !version
[04:19] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[04:19] <intelikey> sudo mv /usr/bin/uptime /usr/bin/uptime-real ;<write script to run uptime-real + time > stdout  >
[04:19] <prospero2005> thank you
[04:19] <_jason> don't even mv it, just put a new uptime in /usr/local/bin :P
[04:19] <wm0t> lol
[04:19] <yourwelcome> does the ubuntu support multi ppp link?
[04:19] <bimberi> _jason: hehe
[04:20] <intelikey> _jason i thought of that. but they might call it with path...
[04:20] <jobezone> babelfishi: other than that, see if you get more responses at the forum.
[04:20] <_jason> intelikey: ah, you are ready for ``them'' :)
[04:20] <babelfishi> jobezone: thanks
[04:20] <intelikey> _jason lol
[04:20] <jobezone> babelfishi: and see if you can find other people which use ubuntu breezy, and use your wireless card
[04:20] <harisund> Does anybody here have an email server running? I was wondering if someone could give me quick tips on the easiest way to get a mail server up in about the same time it takes to get a webserver running... :)
[04:21] <jobezone> babelfishi: and, if possible, check if the wireless card works in another OS. For example, you could burn a LiveCD of Knoppix, and boot it, and see if it is detected.
[04:21] <babelfishi> jobezone: it's for windows - i checked
[04:22] <babelfishi> jobezone: another thing: if i looked 'iwconfig' - in lo, eth0, and sit0 has no wireless extensions
[04:23] <babelfishi> jobezone: hmm - this post is interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=465719&postcount=7
[04:23] <SoulPropagation> Is there any way to dump the contents of the install disc onto a hard disk and install from that dumped partition?
[04:24] <intelikey> SoulPropagation not an easy way.   you can mount an iso file but the installer is hard coded to look for a cd
[04:25] <jleedev> I can't print from samba; it keeps giving "Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format 'application/octet-stream'!"
[04:25] <jobezone> babelfishi: looking at your link
[04:25] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: not an iso, like a partition that the installer disc was dd-ed onto
[04:25] <orbin> aren't w32codecs supposed to take care of divx wmvs?
[04:26] <intelikey> SoulPropagation what part of (the installer is hard coded to look for a cd)  did you miss there ?   the problem is not the files. it's where the installer looks for them.
[04:26] <orbin> SoulPropagation: if you have a cdrom drie, why not just install form the cd? :-/
[04:26] <orbin> s/drie/drive
[04:28] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?
[04:28] <babelfishi> jobezone: g2g - feel free to email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:28] <intelikey> SoulPropagation if this is an "only option" approach, i think i'd pull the hdd and install on another box them move it back to that box.
[04:29] <yourwelcome> could you tell me where to get the firewall doc?
[04:29] <farruinn> yourwelcome: I'm not sure which doc is *the* doc - maybe start by looking on the wiki or www.tldp.org?
[04:29] <orbin> yourwelcome: what firewall?
[04:29] <intelikey> man iptables  man shorewall
[04:30] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: It's a powerpc, and it's the only ppc in my house. Everything else in my house in an x86
[04:30] <farruinn> yourwelcome: firestarter is pretty easy to use too
[04:30] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: a mac?
[04:30] <intelikey> SoulPropagation hmmm  ppc   and cant boot the installer ?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: yeah that ;)
[04:31] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: is it an oldworld (beige) mac?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> intelikey: cd drive is busted
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: no it's a 600mhz g3 imac
[04:35] <poningru> yarr
[04:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yarr
[04:36] <poningru> anyone need any help?
[04:36] <intelikey> anyone know why when users do either X or startx they get;
[04:36] <intelikey> Fatal server error:
[04:36] <intelikey> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[04:37] <poningru> well thats not supposed to happen
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *blink*... XF86?
[04:38] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: I don't know if this would work, but you might try using apple's disc utility to copy the contents of the .iso to a partition
[04:38] <Knorrie> !reverse xf86EnableIOPorts
[04:38] <ubotu> Knorrie: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:38] <Knorrie> ubotu: heh
[04:38] <escobar5> hello, how do i mount an NTFS disk with permissions to read for other users??
[04:38] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Knorrie
[04:38] <poningru> !tell escobar5 about ntfs
[04:39] <prospero2005> the adept package manager doesn't seem to be available in dapper. does that sound right?
[04:39] <prospero2005> only synaptic
[04:39] <yourwelcome> first i think i should see the firestarter,thanks farruinn
[04:39] <escobar5> poningru: thanks
[04:39] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: or just dd it from one of my x86s
[04:39] <poningru> np
[04:39] <intelikey> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[04:39] <intelikey>   adept app-install-data debtags gamin kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
[04:39] <farruinn> SoulPropagation: That would probably be more reliable - sounds like you know what you're doing :)
[04:39] <Hobbsee> prospero2005: it should be there...
[04:40] <intelikey> prospero2005 it's there  see what i just posted  ^
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !tell prospero2005 about info adept dapper
[04:41] <prospero2005> I bet my sources.list is warped. It can't find this library: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11
[04:41] <SoulPropagation> farruinn: ;)
[04:41] <prospero2005> I basically changed every instance to of breezy to dapper in my sources.list
[04:42] <prospero2005> I get errors with the package manager now.... gotta sort that out
[04:42] <prospero2005> Can anyone provide a good sources.list file for dapper for me?
[04:42] <intelikey> why is it looking for it prospero2005 ?
[04:42] <NickGarvey> !dapper
[04:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !sources
[04:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 breezy
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 dapper
[04:43] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 hoary
[04:43] <farruinn> prospero2005: that package doesn't exist....
[04:43] <intelikey> there is no such critter.
[04:43] <farruinn> prospero2005: maybe you just want libc6?
[04:44] <prospero2005> I'll look at that
[04:44] <intelikey> !info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 warty
[04:45] <farruinn> prospero2005: btw, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[04:45] <prospero2005> adept:
[04:45] <prospero2005>  Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11   <-- that's the error message.. hmm. thanks
[04:46] <intelikey> libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 = libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11    that package has never existed in ubuntu
[04:46] <Aine> Hello. Has anyone had an issue where ubutnu install says there is no network card present but there is a firewire card?
[04:47] <farruinn> intelikey: It is in the depends on package.ubuntu.com though - it's a virtual package that's supposed to be supplied by the apt package
[04:48] <matthew_w> Hey, is there any validity in the statement that placing both linux and windows on  one hard drive via partitioning is unhealthy for the hard drive?
[04:48] <crimsun> matthew_w: utter rubbish
[04:48] <farruinn> prospero2005: It's possible you haven't fully upgraded to dapper yet - breezy's apt provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.10
[04:49] <matthew_w> crimsun; to what margin of error?
[04:49] <crimsun> matthew_w: though I hear breathing deeply can cause you to lapse into cardiac arrest
[04:49] <matthew_w> lmao
[04:49] <[D] ARKFENIX> hello
[04:49] <matthew_w> Okay, come now, I'm not quite -that- inept just yet.
[04:49] <intelikey> matthew_w valid is subjective.      but in short, no.
[04:50] <Garuda> can me know you
[04:51] <matthew_w> Hrm... I had a hard drive that I had lin/win for about a year, and it cracked, loudly, and the comp store guy blamed journaling and non journaling fs's on the same plate
[04:51] <prospero2005> I may have figured it out. Thanks for the tips. (I'm only happy when my linux is broken.   Thanks
[04:56] <[D] ARKFENIX> at 2:00 shutdown -h ?
[04:56] <[D] ARKFENIX> is it ok?
[04:56] <SoulPropagation> [D] ARKFENIX: thought it was shutdown -h 2:00
 is there anything set in cron by default in ubuntu?   <---  logrotate   i think is the only default cron job.
[04:56] <doms> hi hellow is their somebody willing to provide a seminar in our school Philippines (mindanao) urios college were shoulder the fare, board and lodging and venue
[04:56] <orbin> !id
[04:56] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[04:56] <orbin> Garuda: ^^
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> crhylove : ctrl+alt+backscape
[04:57] <dli> what's the package name for the desktop? ubuntu-desktop ?
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> with that you reset the X's
[04:57] <doms> we would like to transform existing windows to ubuntu box
[04:57] <[D] ARKFENIX> and you can load other graphic enviroinment
[04:57] <doms> hi hellow is their somebody willing to provide a seminar in our school Philippines (mindanao) urios college were shoulder the fare, board and lodging and venue
[04:57] <jobezone> that would be 'sudo shutdown -h 2:00'
 what's the package name for the desktop? ubuntu-desktop ?  <----  gnome
[04:58] <yourwelcome> how can i bind 2 adsl line with dial in if the Ubuntu support
[04:58] <intelikey> utuntu-desktop is the meta package that installs gnome and all the gui apps.  the  meta package for just the desktop is gnome
[04:58] <Garuda> q people indonesia
[04:59] <jobezone> doms: sorry, live far away from you
[04:59] <orbin> doms: ask in #ubuntu-ph maybe
[04:59] <NickGarvey> doms: I think the forums would be a good place so more people get to look at that
[05:00] <NickGarvey> doms: seems to be quite an oppertunity for someone knowledgeable enought
[05:00] <doms> their is an indian their which interested to give trainings in our school
[05:00] <doms> i hope he walk thru our needs
[05:01] <[D] ARKFENIX> how i can make a dialog box to take a value (for xdialog) ??
[05:01] <intelikey> readline ?
[05:01] <doms> ubuntu-ph is not effecient
[05:01] <Garuda> i can dialog in indonesia
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> no
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> a value
[05:02] <egytrack> hello
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> loke a number
[05:02] <[D] ARKFENIX> like a number
[05:02] <bimberi> mem34ber
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> an imput dialog
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> for xdialog
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> does anybody knows how?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> its possible xdialog dont have that feature.. or check the man pages and see
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> yes it has
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> theres other dialog alternatives
[05:03] <[D] ARKFENIX> like what?
[05:04] <jobezone> zenity
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> freshmeat.net  or google for them., i belive kde and gnome also both have their own version/alternative
[05:04] <[D] ARKFENIX> i use xfce
[05:04] <intelikey> man xargs
[05:04] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell Garuda about id
[05:04] <jobezone> zenity uses gtk2
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> sorry to hear that.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:04] <[D] ARKFENIX> lol
[05:04] <minerale> I installed the nvidia drivers, I restart gdm, it's all fine
[05:05] <minerale> I installed the nvidia drivers, I restart gdm, it's all fine, then I reboot the computer and x server is broken again.. eh?
[05:05] <crimson> how do I fix: *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.8.6, but GLIB (2.8.3)
[05:05] <crimson> *** was found!
[05:05] <crimson> without removing all packages
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> zenity is easier than xdialog
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> 8_)
[05:06] <cafuego> crimson: The -dev version of normal package versions are mismatched?
[05:06] <[D] ARKFENIX> 8-)
[05:06] <crimson> cafuego: yes
[05:06] <Garuda> tanks
[05:06] <cafuego> crimson: Just upgrade one or downgrade the other.
[05:07] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: what are you building, which involves asking the user for a numeric value, and shutting down at a specific time?
[05:07] <Garuda> ga ngerti
[05:07] <crimson> cafuego: how do i downgrade? uninstall the newest version
[05:07] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-0
[05:07] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 988 kB
[05:07] <orbin> minerale: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:07] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-0-dev
[05:08] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:08] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobzone : yes
[05:08] <cafuego> !info libglib2.0-dev
[05:08] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: (Development files for the GLib library), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 2.8.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 482 kB, Installed size: 1908 kB
[05:08] <hyphenated> Garuda: apa?
[05:08] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : yes
[05:08] <Garuda> ok yes
[05:08] <cafuego> crimson: Where did that 2.8.6 come from?
[05:08] <crimson> cafuego: from the offical site
[05:08] <cafuego> crimson: Did you at some stage do a manual or custom upgrade?
[05:09] <crimson> cafuego: yes
[05:09] <Garuda> my fs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:09] <cafuego> crimson: Ok, easiest would be to downgrade it, 'sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0=2.8.3-0ubuntu1'
[05:10] <Garuda> trims
[05:10] <cafuego> And the same for the -dev package.
[05:10] <crimson> cafuego: it says: libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version.
[05:10] <caleb-> Does Ubuntu have something similar with http://incoming.debian.org ?
[05:10] <cafuego> crimson: 'sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev=2.8.3-0ubuntu1'
[05:11] <caleb-> I asked ubotu but he knows nothing.
[05:11] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:11] <cafuego> If that also whines, insert a '--reinstall' param for apt.
[05:11] <holycow> allright, so a dist upgrade can be messy
[05:11] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: I'm curious. Whatcha building there?
[05:11] <Garuda> i people indanesia there centre jawa timur (pasuruan)
[05:11] <holycow> but syanptic kinda makes it easy to clean up things with missing dependencies or things needing updates, etc.
[05:11] <[D] ARKFENIX> a mini-app that takes a determinated hour to shutdown the pc
[05:11] <holycow> i think synaptic is highly underrated
[05:12] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : do you speak spanish?
[05:12] <minerale> orbin: It says 'failed to initialize the Nvidia kernel module' ... but if I setup nvidia manually it comes up just fine
[05:12] <sig-11> breezy/dapper seem to be missing opengl man pages which were in warty/hoary. Things like glxinfo and glViewport. Anyone know why?
[05:12] <jobezone> caleb-: I think new packages go directly into dapper, but I'm not sure. Canonical may have an internal incoming distro.
[05:12] <intelikey> going to install a cdburner.  be back later with the errors   lol  :)
[05:12] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: nope, why?
[05:12] <hanasaki> does the ubuntu live boot to gnome?kde?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki,  the ubuntu one = gnome , kubuntu = kde
[05:12] <[D] ARKFENIX> because in yuor info your name is eduadro
[05:12] <crimson> cafuego: it's still mismatched
[05:12] <cafuego> sig-11: 'glxinfo' is there.
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> not sure if tehres a xubuntu one.
[05:13] <minerale> orbin: api missmatch between the 'nvidia kernel' and the x module version
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> because in yuor info your name is eduardo
[05:13] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: I understand, and can speak potuspanish.
[05:13] <cafuego> crimson: force-reinstall the normal lib too.
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: maybe you didn't set the module to load at bootup (i have an ati, so can't really help)
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: i don't think its -dev i think it's the actual glib-2.0
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: did you follow the wiki
[05:13] <sig-11> the man page?
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: k
[05:13] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: portuspanish=portuguese+spanish
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> ahm ok
[05:13] <minerale> orbin: this is from nvidia's website
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> yeah i know
[05:13] <[D] ARKFENIX> lol
[05:13] <orbin> minerale: yeah, you should follow ubuntu's official documentation above all else
[05:13] <cafuego> minerale: Ubuntu comes with the drivers prebuilt and prepackaged.
[05:13] <tritium> minerale: use ubuntu packages rather that a download off of nvidia.com or ati.com
[05:13] <orbin> ubotu: tell minerale about nvidia
[05:13] <crimson> cafuego: how do i force-install?
[05:13] <jjesse> how do i take a screen shot off the live cd?
[05:14] <tritium> !tell [D] ARKFENIX about enter
[05:14] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:14] <cafuego> crimson: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libglib2.0-0=2.8.3-0ubuntu1
[05:14] <orbin> jjesse: sys>screenshot
[05:14] <hanasaki> hmm so gnoppix vs unbuntu live? pros/cons?
[05:14] <[D] ARKFENIX> tritium : ok sorry
[05:15] <pip_> hello
[05:15] <jjesse> orbin: sorry i usually use kubuntu is that the system menu and then screenshot?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> hanasaki,  the knoppix dvd - version has a LOT more programs . and a lot of neat features.
[05:15] <minerale> cafuego, tritium: the nvidia drivers from ubuntu have severe problems, I have flickering and little 'underscores" showing all the time
[05:15] <orbin> jjesse: in gnome, yes.  don't know how kde works
[05:15] <hanasaki> and the cd?  hmm anyreason we cant put the same inot the ubuntu live?
[05:15] <tritium> minerale: do as you wish, then
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: hmm don't see that on  the live cd
[05:16] <orbin> jjesse: well, you're running kde, not gnome .. .ask in #kubuntu
[05:16] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: hombre, me diz que haces, caramba!
[05:16] <crimson> cafuego: i re-installed it but it's still mismatched
[05:16] <holycow> what is the name ofthe package for the app that sits in applications typically and is labeled 'add applications'?
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: usuing a ubuntu live  cd
[05:16] <jjesse> orbin: i normally use kubuntu, want to take some screenshots of ubuntu
[05:16] <orbin> jjesse: oh, then it should be systgem>take screenshot
[05:16] <crimson> cafuego: i might need to manually uninstall 2.8.6
[05:16] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone: hago una aplicacion que apague el pc a una hora sin tener k usar la shell
[05:17] <_jason> holycow: gnome-app-install
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> i'm lazy (lol)
[05:17] <phewl> how do you unzip a .bin file
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> it's impossible
[05:17] <daveCB> Where should i copy new ttf fonts files on ubuntu?
[05:17] <holycow> thx j
[05:17] <_jason> phewl: only zips can be unzipped
[05:17] <Garuda> hey mother fucker
[05:17] <orbin> you don't. you usually run them
[05:17] <[D] ARKFENIX> a bin is a bin
[05:17] <phewl> mk
[05:17] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: caramba! you gusta de clicki-cliki, eh?
[05:17] <phewl> how do you EXTRACT  a .bin file
[05:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell daveCB about fonts
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> just execute it
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> first chmod +x
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> and then go to term and copy the exact route of the app
[05:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : si me gusta mucho
[05:19] <[D] ARKFENIX> is good to know 2 or more languages
[05:20] <tritium> !tell [D] ARKFENIX about enter
[05:20] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: tu postars ton applicativo en el gnome-files?
[05:20] <[D] ARKFENIX> how i know where is the value stored at "zenity --entry"
[05:20] <crimson> how do i remove glib-2.8.6?
[05:21] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobexone : ahi si no te entendi - I can't understand you sorry
[05:21] <_jason> crimson: how did you install it?
[05:21] <crimson> _jason: ./configure make make-install
[05:21] <[D] ARKFENIX> if is by apt-get just put apt-get remove <package>
[05:21] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: will you post it at gnome-files.org ? :)
[05:22] <_jason> crimson: heh well you can try make uninstall in the source directory and see if that was provided
[05:22] <slavik> crimson: no checkinstall?
[05:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : it is a little script of 3 or 4 lines , i think it's very easy to do for a normal linux user
[05:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> however if you need it just tell me
[05:22] <crimson> _jason: make uninstall might be working
[05:23] <crimson> slavik: no checkinstall
[05:23] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: hmm.. just curious. Can a "real" program be made using zenity, or not really?
[05:23] <crimson> slavik: uninstall is still working
[05:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> i dont think so
[05:24] <ASTX813> Anyone tried using a google calendar in evolution using CalDAV?  I've been able to add my google calendar as a webcal, but I want CalDAV since webcal is readonly.
[05:24] <ASTX813> When I add as CalDAV, evolution crashes
[05:24] <[D] ARKFENIX> because a real program needs a lot of dialog boxes , and it will be very embarassing to call zenity everytime
[05:24] <danl> are there any packages or programs to use my modem with my mic and such as a ohone
[05:24] <danl> *phone
[05:25] <jobezone> yes, you're right. only programs which work like a wizard are possible
[05:25] <[D] ARKFENIX> yeah
[05:28] <NickGarvey> whe compiling from source, the program should out detect what bit processor I have and act accordingly? (I have a 64 bit)
[05:28] <FearMoth> I installed lirc from source because I couldn't get the .deb package to work. what am I supposed to do with /etc/lircd.conf ? it's empty, and when I try irrecord /etc/lircd.conf I get this error: irrecord: file "/etc/lircd.conf" does not contain valid data
[05:30] <crimson> _jason: that uninstalled it, thank you
[05:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell crimson about checkinstall
[05:30] <_jason> crimson: in the future, try to use checkinstall instead of make install
[05:30] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:30] <orbin> NickGarvey: don't they ususally provide different tarballs for different archs?
[05:31] <NickGarvey> orbin: not sure, I haven't seen any for most things so thats what made me ask the question :)
[05:32] <doms> how do i install a driver for my creative webcam to use ekiga
[05:32] <orbin> doms: have you tried the forum?
[05:32] <Elive_user> uh, ok so this is the first time i've used irc so forgive the dumb stuff
[05:32] <tritium> doms: please be patient.  Repeating won't help
[05:33] <Daskies> Is there a way to play .asx in Ubuntu?
[05:33] <doms> is their any ice candy for ubuntu
[05:34] <doms> dapper drake
[05:34] <_jason> ice candy?
[05:34] <bimberi> hi Elive_user and welcome :)
[05:34] <orbin> NickGarvey: my guess is unless they provide specific 64 bit source, it'll be compiled as 32bit
[05:34] <orbin> NickGarvey: but like i said, i'm guessing
[05:34] <doms> yup to make my gdm look-art
[05:34] <_jason> Daskies: .asx is usually a wrapper for wmv, I can play them with mplayer and w32codecs
[05:34] <jerrykb> anyone have any luck with a HP Deskjet 3520 printer & Breezy?  I can get it to respond but it's just printing blank pages, although it goes through the motions like it's printing something.  Checked ink, etc. Windows prints ok.  nothing of help on forums.
[05:34] <Elive_user> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my toshiba laptop and i can't get the LAN to work, it shows up as eth0 and active, dhcp and so on, I can ping out to sites, it says i'm sending and recieving packages yet I can't firefox and chat won't work or anything
[05:34] <Elive_user> any ideas? Thanks in advance!
[05:34] <Daskies> _jason, How would I get those?
[05:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about mplayer
[05:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about w32codecs
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone are you there?
[05:35] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: yes
[05:35] <ASTX813> Oh, maybe the problem is that google calendar isn't a CalDAV ata ll...
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> if you need my script i've finished it
[05:35] <[D] ARKFENIX> it's only 3 lines
[05:36] <[D] ARKFENIX> but pm me
[05:36] <tritium> [D] ARKFENIX: I've already told you about enter
[05:36] <jobezone> Elive_user: you can ping a site, but not view it with firefox? What if you put the ip of a website on firefox? like put <IP_ADDRESS> in the adress box in firefox.
[05:37] <Elive_user> hold on let me check
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> http://<IP_ADDRESS>  he means
[05:38] <doms> does anyone knows what packe for GUI in postgresql 8.0
[05:38] <Elive_user> jo: its loading halfway and then stops or is really really slow
[05:38] <doms> does anyone knows what package for GUI in postgresql 8.0
[05:38] <jobezone> [D] ARKFENIX: nice. 3 lines.
[05:38] <_jason> ASTX813: hmm where would I tell evolution about my private iCal url for google cal?
[05:38] <Elive_user> but using the ip it got further than just typing in a reg. address
[05:39] <ASTX813> _jason New -> Calendar
[05:39] <_jason> ASTX813: thanks
[05:40] <ASTX813> But it's readonly
[05:40] <ASTX813> Trying to figure out a way to make it r/w
[05:40] <jobezone> Elive_user: but talking in irc works fine, right? It's only the speed of firefox loading pages?
[05:40] <Elive_user> i'm on my roommates computer. :)
[05:40] <[D] ARKFENIX> jobezone : i've to go , if you need me talk to me by msn (shpr2005@gmail.com)i'm learning about linux script and it will be good for learn with somebody else
[05:42] <Elive_user> and yea just tried the xchat and it fails when connecting to a channel
[05:42] <jobezone> Elive_user: well, I'm not that knowledgable with network problems... but it seems a problem with a misconfigured DNS
[05:43] <jobezone> Elive_user: conecting to a irc server works?
[05:43] <Elive_user> no dosen't work
[05:43] <Elive_user> dns...would that be on my end or someone else's end?
[05:43] <jerrykb> Elive_user: did you say you could ping sites successfully?
[05:44] <Elive_user> yes i can
[05:44] <hokatichenci> When i apt-get install apache2 from my fresh ubuntu server install it asks for the badger cdrom in the drive, why?
[05:44] <jerrykb> Elive_user and were you using the www address or IP #?
[05:44] <Elive_user> www addresss
[05:44] <jerrykb> hmm.
[05:44] <dark_fibre> what can you do with a cluster? does drbl work on diskless systems?
[05:44] <jobezone> Elive_user: so it's not a DNS problem.
[05:44] <jerrykb> Well it seems DNS is working
[05:45] <jerrykb> Elive_user: have you tried another browser?  dillo or epiphany, etc?
[05:45] <orbin> hokatichenci: you have the cdrom enabled as a repository source. disable it
[05:45] <Elive_user> no not yet
[05:45] <hokatichenci> orbin, where would i do that?
[05:45] <tritium> hokatichenci: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <orbin> hokatichenci: either w/ synaptic, or by editing sources.list
[05:45] <Elive_user> but neither the evolution mail or chat works either so its not just firefox
[05:46] <gfxstyler> yo
[05:46] <hokatichenci> ahh
[05:46] <hokatichenci> that did it, thanks :)
[05:46] <jerrykb> Elive_user: is roommates computer the same connection you're trying to use on yours?
[05:46] <dracflamloc> how can i get my computers fan to not spin at max all the time? i'm running an amd64 3200+?
[05:46] <crimson> _jason: I used checkinstall, but got this error message a few times: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:46] <Elive_user> yes. and he has elive if that makes a differnece
[05:46] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: did you try powernowd ?
[05:46] <_jason> crimson: do you have another apt process open?
[05:46] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[05:46] <_jason> !w32codecs
[05:46] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:47] <dracflamloc> gfxstyler, it says it cant find cpufreq
[05:47] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  in termial sudo ifconfig and compare between the two machines?  may spot something there?
[05:47] <crimson> _jason: not that I know of
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: add some cpufreq modules to /etc/modules
[05:48] <_jason> crimson: did you kill any apt or dpkg process before it finished what it was doing?
[05:48] <Elive_user> i'll try that, if something is different between the two how do i change it?
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: like cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_performance, cpufreq_conservative
[05:48] <crimson> _jason: i didn't, no
[05:48] <_jason> crimson: ps aux | grep apt
[05:48] <jerrykb> Elive_user should be able to change it with ifconfig.
[05:48] <gfxstyler> dracflamloc: then do a reboot :)
[05:49] <jerrykb> Elive_user: or in System > Administration > Networking
[05:49] <Daskies> _jason, Late, but thanks, are there any other handy codex's?
[05:49] <Elive_user> *looking*
[05:50] <Elive_user> its the same in networking, i checked that
[05:50] <_jason> Daskies: what do you mean late?
[05:50] <Daskies> _jason, Late on my part. You helped a while ago, and I had yet to say thanks
[05:51] <_jason> Daskies: oh, np :)
[05:51] <Manderson> Hi all,
[05:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about multimedia
[05:51] <dracflamloc> ok..
[05:51] <dracflamloc> does anyone else know how to get powernowd working?
[05:52] <Manderson>  Long time ago, I came across a program (I think it was on knoppix) that was like a game where you "fly around" in a virutal space, and this "space" is your filesystem. It's like a graphical way of exploring the filesystem. Does anyone know which program this was?
[05:53] <jerrykb> that sounds so familiar..
[05:53] <Manderson> It's been driving me crazy trying to remember/find it.
[05:53] <Daskies> _jason, thanks again, is there a list of nice apps laying around?
[05:53] <jobezone> dracflamloc: I think you just need to install the package powernowd.
[05:53] <blind> google ittttttt
[05:54] <blind> "game, explore, filesystem"
[05:54] <blind> brb
[05:54] <Manderson> I'll try.
[05:54] <dracflamloc> jobezone, i did. it says it cant find cpuinfo_max_freq
[05:54] <_jason> Daskies: not that I know of, the wiki has a few on particular subjects.  Like the multimedia one, p2p
[05:54] <blind> woah
[05:55] <blind> i know this probably isn't what you were talking about, but the screenshot is visually impressive. http://www.tactile3d.com/
[05:55] <liquidindian> This should be easy, but I can't find anything on it.  How do I change default programs for, say, video?
[05:55] <dark_fibre> Manderson, http://fsv.sourceforge.net/?
[05:55] <jobezone> if you search for "Jurassic Park" and trivia, it should say
[05:55] <dracflamloc> hm, it says my cpu sint supported
[05:55] <Daskies> _jason, Is there anything better than Frostwire for p2p
[05:55] <blind> !tell liquidindian about defaultapp
[05:55] <jobezone> since that program was used in the movie.
[05:55] <dracflamloc> how can i have linux dynamicaly change the fan speed?
[05:56] <jobezone> dracflamloc: ahh, because you need to add some modules. wait a sec.
[05:56] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[05:56] <_jason> Daskies: I prefer frostwire, there is also gtk-gnutella that a lot of epople seem to like
[05:56] <Daskies> _jason, Thanks
[05:56] <Daskies> Again
[05:57] <Manderson> fsv might be it...
[05:57] <jobezone> dracflamloc: you need to load cpufreq_userspace and another specific to your cpu...
[05:57] <dark_fibre> looks pretty cool anyway
[05:57] <ASTX813> Has anyone used CalDAV in Evolution?
[05:57] <jobezone> dracflamloc: in my case it's powernow-k8
[05:57] <jerrykb> Manderson: sounds right.
[05:57] <_jason> Daskies: this may or not be helpful to you http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[05:57] <dracflamloc> jobezone, what would it be for an amd64 3200+?
[05:58] <jobezone> to load a module, you do 'sudo modprobe <module_name>'
[05:58] <Manderson> the version I remember using was very basic though...no fancy graphics...just old school looking (think star wars graphics) vector lines
[05:58] <FearMoth> I have a script to start lirc in /etc/init.d, but update-rc.d lirc doesn't do anything, it just gives me the help screen. howcome?
[05:58] <jerrykb> Manderson there's screens on fsv.sourceforge.net  might be a newer version.
[05:58] <Daskies> Oh, _jason, last thing is there an IE clone for Ubuntu, for devolpment?
[05:58] <gozz> ok guys i hav done every thing i can to get fglrx to work right by following this tut. could somone check it out cause it cant be right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:58] <jobezone> dracflamloc: hm.... I don't no... but there is a way you can 'browse' through the modules you have, and can load. run 'sudo modconf' (you may need to install modconf).
[05:59] <Manderson> jerrykb - thanks I'll give it a shot
[05:59] <_jason> Daskies: not that I know of, but you can get ie to run under wine
[05:59] <gozz> i have tried every way listed here and it doesnt work
[05:59] <gozz> im not new to linux just ubuntu
[05:59] <jobezone> dracflamloc: and search for a category called cpufreq
[06:00] <gozz> i get gl but very slow
[06:00] <Elive_user> ok, in network settings we're both the same and I can't get to ifconfig using the elive terminal (it dosen't do anything)
[06:00] <felipe_> /part #
[06:01] <dark_fibre> does anyone know what you can do with a cluster?
[06:02] <orbin> is that a trivia question? :-/
[06:02] <dranyam> anyone ever installed ubuntu on a machine that doesnt have a boot from cd option in the bios
[06:02] <dranyam> ?
[06:03] <blind> doesn't have?
[06:03] <mustard5> dranyam, there is a way I believe
[06:03] <gozz> throw that thing in the trash
[06:03] <mustard5> dranyam, you can boot from a floppy that can start the CD up
[06:03] <mustard5> !smarboot
[06:03] <ubotu> mustard5: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:03] <mustard5> !smartboot
[06:03] <ubotu> smartboot is probably If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:03] <mjb> can anyone field a simple apt-get qn?
[06:04] <dranyam> i read some stuff
[06:04] <blind> "configure: error: Cannot find gtkglarea" -- neither can I. I installed "gtkglarea5" cause it's in the repos, but that doesn't seem to be it. anyone have any suggestions?
[06:04] <dranyam> that told me to take if off the ubuntu disc
[06:04] <dranyam> but
[06:04] <dranyam> its too big to fit on a floppy
[06:04] <dranyam> :/
[06:04] <orbin> mjb: just ask :)
[06:04] <jerrykb> gtkglarea5-dev?
[06:04] <dracflamloc> ugh
[06:04] <XhyldazhK> hi all!! what is the cleanest way to make a .deb, like one about to be submitted for approval to Canonical?
[06:04] <blind> jerrykb, i'll try it
[06:05] <mjb> cheers my available files missing... apt-get update doesn't seem to rewrite
[06:05] <mustard5> which thing did you take of the Ubuntu CD?
[06:05] <blind> jerrykb, thanks. it worked. haha
[06:05] <dracflamloc> my cpu fan is spinning full speed when it doesnt have to be. how can i have ubuntu autmatically speed the fan depedning on its load or whatever? i have an amd64 3200+?
[06:05] <jerrykb> Welcome :-)
[06:05] <mustard5> dranyam, which thing did you take of the Ubuntu CD?
[06:05] <jerrykb> mjb:  using sudo?
[06:05] <mjb> yep
[06:05] <mjb> hang on i'll make sure
[06:05] <jerrykb> mjb:  /etc/apt/sources.list look all in order?
[06:06] <mjb> yep
[06:06] <hokatichenci> is there a way to upgrade mysql client to 4.1 without dumping mysql-common and requiring gcc and everything else?
[06:06] <Elive_user> jerrykb still with me?
[06:06] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  yeah still here, sorry if I didn't see something.
[06:06] <fid_> have a question for someone.  If I want windows to be the default o.s grub boots to, how do I edit the menu.lst file to make that happen?
[06:06] <cafuego> !info mysql-client
[06:06] <ubotu> mysql-client: (mysql database client binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 403 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[06:06] <cafuego> !info mysql-client-4.1
[06:06] <ubotu> mysql-client-4.1: (mysql database client binaries), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 845 kB, Installed size: 1876 kB
[06:07] <Elive_user> no prob, i said in network settings we have the same settings and i can't get to ifconfig using elives terminal (it dosen't do anything)
[06:07] <cafuego> I expect it'll at *least* require mysql-common-4.1 and libmysqlclient
[06:07] <mustard5> fid_, you change the value in menu.lst which is currently set at something like 'default=0'
[06:07] <blind> Does anyone have any experience with fsv?
[06:07] <fid_> oh ok
[06:07] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm unfamiliar with elive... is network cabled or wireless?
[06:07] <mustard5> fid_, count down the menu entries starting with zero
[06:07] <jerrykb> blind:  i'm compiling it right now.
[06:07] <Elive_user> cabled
[06:08] <mustard5> fid_, grub always counts from zero
[06:08] <orbin> fid_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[06:08] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I know it sounds basic but have you checked card seating, cables, etc?
[06:08] <Elive_user> lol, yea
[06:08] <hanasaki> anyone have the link to where it says ubuntu live is a gnome live?
[06:08] <Elive_user> i wish it was something that simple
[06:08] <fid_> hmmm
[06:08] <fid_> is it the chainloader option?
[06:09] <jerrykb> Elive_user: networking problems are always such a pain.
[06:09] <cafuego> fid_: yes
[06:09] <Elive_user> day four without internet...i'm going into withdrawl
[06:09] <fid_> so change the windows one to +0 and the others to +1?
[06:09] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm at a bit of a loss for ideas.  Is network card PCMCIA or onboard?
[06:09] <cafuego> fid_: NO
[06:09] <mustard5> fid_, no
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <doms> were i can download w32codecs
[06:09] <Elive_user> onboard
[06:09] <mjb> jerrykb: just updating now ... getting .. Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:09] <mjb> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[06:09] <mjb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:09] <cafuego> doms: Stop spamming
[06:10] <_jason> doms: we told you this already
[06:10] <mustard5> fid_, look at the link above that orbin pasted
[06:10] <gaixixon> hi all..
[06:10] <cafuego> !tell doms -about restrictedformats
[06:10] <Elive_user> could you tell me what driver i'm supposed to be running and maybe i could try re-installing it or something?
[06:10] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  checked bios for any settings?
[06:10] <Elive_user> what settings should i check for?
[06:11] <mustard5> fid_, you used the pastebin before?
[06:11] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  I'm not sure, I've never used computers with onboard ethernet, sorry.
[06:11] <dranyam> thanks guys
[06:11] <dranyam> worked
[06:11] <dranyam> you rock
[06:12] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  but you might look to see if there's any configuration for it in the bios
[06:12] <mustard5> dranyam, what did you do? :)
[06:12] <Elive_user> I'm looking now
[06:12] <dranyam> no cd rom boot option
[06:13] <dranyam> heh
[06:13] <mustard5> dranyam, ah ok..so you worked it out k :)
[06:13] <dranyam> thanks
[06:13] <dranyam> and yes
[06:13] <Elive_user> is there a fire wall or something that comes with ubuntu i should look for
[06:13] <dranyam> oh noez
[06:13] <mustard5> Elive_user, basically its built in by default
[06:13] <dranyam> low memory mode
[06:13] <dranyam> :0
[06:13] <jerrykb> Elive_user: not by default.
[06:13] <mjb> re the apt-get issue after sudo apt-get update I still get  jerrykb: just updating now ... getting .. Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:13] <mjb> mjb dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[06:13] <mjb> mjb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:13] <cafuego> Elive_user: Nothing that's enabled by default, though it's built-in.
[06:13] <Elive_user> and network boot protocol cant be changed is that what im looking for
[06:14] <Elive_user> in the bios
[06:14] <hyphenated> Elive_user: no, you're looking for options about enabling hardware
[06:14] <jerrykb> Elive_user:  no, that i believe is for booting like a thin client... (?)
[06:14] <hyphenated> Elive_user: eg: a setting for the on-board modem, on-board wireless, and on-board ethernet. they can usually be enabled/disabled in bios
[06:15] <jerrykb> mjb:  checking.
[06:15] <mjb> thanks
[06:15] <fid_> ok that is just confusing me
[06:15] <mustard5> fid_, you used the pastebin before?
[06:15] <Elive_user> built in LAN is enabled
[06:15] <fid_> ya
[06:15] <Elive_user> and thats about all it says
[06:15] <mustard5> fid_, pastebin the menu.lst and show me the URL
[06:15] <dracflamloc> sweet, i got powernowd to load
[06:16] <fid_> do i just add the command savedefault to the windows one and make it +0?
[06:16] <dracflamloc> detects my cpu. but how can i tell it to stop spinning the fan so fast?
[06:16] <jerrykb> mjb:  Make an empty available file (touch /var/lib/dpkg/available).
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, no..not exactly
[06:16] <blind> how can i chmod every file in a directory, and all the children directories?
[06:16] <mjb> ok
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, your half right and half wrong :)
[06:16] <fid_> whats the half wrong part?
[06:16] <mustard5> fid_, pastebin the menu.lst
[06:16] <fid_> hehe
[06:16] <fid_> ok
[06:16] <blind> I tried "find -name '*' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 766" but everything it tried to chmod, it gave me "operation not permitted"
[06:17] <mjb> doing that now
[06:17] <orbin> blind: chomd -R xxx /dir
[06:17] <orbin> blind: be careful what /dir you pass though
[06:17] <blind> why?
[06:18] <orbin> blind: well, if you chmod the wrong dir....
[06:18] <mustard5> blind, cause it will destry things if you are not careful :)
[06:18] <mjb> thats done the trick... thanks jerry.
[06:18] <fid_> http://pastebin.com/684350
[06:18] <blind> Well "chmod -R 766 ." would do everything in the current dir, and everything child, correct?
[06:18] <mustard5> fid_, looking now...
[06:18] <RobNyc> anyone here has a intel i810 / intel corp 82810E DC-133 CGC
[06:18] <jerrykb> mjb:  welcome :-)
[06:19] <mustard5> fid_, see line 12  'default=0' ?
[06:20] <fid_> yes
[06:20] <mustard5> fid_, change it to default=5
[06:20] <fid_> oh ok
[06:20] <jerrykb> who was asking about fsv?  I just got it built/installed.  Nifty looking thing.
[06:20] <orbin> blind: i think so.  otherwise, do a cd.. up if that doesn't work
[06:20] <mustard5> fid_, that will start the 'sixth' menu entry by default (cause grub counts starting with zero)
[06:20] <blind> it worked, orbin
[06:20] <blind> thanks
[06:21] <fid_> ok thats what was throwing me off
[06:21] <orbin> yw
[06:21] <fid_> so just change that to five save and I'm good to go right?
[06:21] <mustard5> fid_, you should be yes
[06:21] <fid_> k
[06:21] <fid_> thanks mang
[06:21] <mustard5> fid_, good luck :)
[06:22] <fid_> gonna try that now
[06:23] <mustard5> doh
[06:24] <orbin> mustard5: there's actually an alternative method to the numbering: savedefault
[06:25] <mustard5> orbin, yeah, sometimes people have savedefault on multiple menu entries though..(not in this case though)
[06:25] <mustard5> orbin, he only had savedefault on the windows line
[06:25] <liquidindian> Argh.  Someone told me earlier how remap keys in GTK apps, and I forgot.
[06:26] <liquidindian> Can anyone remind me?
[06:26] <mustard5> orbin, if he had it on the first breezy entry as well then it would savedefault on breezy next time he used breezy
[06:26] <orbin> mustard5: yeah, i'm not sure how it works actually, i just thought i knew that there was an alternative
[06:26] <mustard5> orbin, he doesnt though, so yeah, your method would have worked :)
[06:26] <FearMoth> hi, I've got lirc_serial in my /etc/modules but it's not loading. when I try to modprobe lirc_serial, it says: FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.15-21-686/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Operation not permitted ...  howcome? how can I get lirc started automatically at boot?
[06:27] <orbin> liquidindian: i can't find anything about you asking how to remap stuff in the chat buffer
[06:27] <mustard5> orbin, the problem I think with his menu.lst is he has an entry which acts as a title before the windows option, so I think I may have needed to add one to my final count :)
[06:27] <orbin> except for the !defaultapp thing
[06:28] <FearMoth> oh no, it says "Device or resource busy" until I setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none
[06:28] <liquidindian> It was a couple of hours ago.  Someone said dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it confused me.
[06:28] <liquidindian> Isn't X an alternative to Gnome?  Or have I got things wrong?
[06:29] <TylerWalts> what is the equivilent in ubuntu for "modules.conf", aka  "conf.modules"  ?
[06:29] <orbin> liquidindian: i'll probably get it wrong, but X is the window system. gnome runs on top of it
[06:29] <mustard5> liquidindian, I would think that gnome 'uses' X to do its thing
[06:30] <liquidindian> Ahh.  That makes sense.
[06:30] <mzuverink> what do i need to edit to be able to log into webmin?
[06:31] <liquidindian> And is GTK something used by gnome?
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, yeah
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, I think the 'G' stands for Gnome actually
[06:31] <mustard5> liquidindian, if I recall correctly :)
[06:31] <dj-fu> gtk is the gnome widget toolkit
[06:31] <sixpoint2> hi
[06:32] <jerrykb> ... thought gtk was gimp toolkit
[06:32] <sixpoint2> how do I do a network install of ubuntu ?
[06:32] <mzuverink> I thought it was gimp tool kit
[06:32] <mustard5> ah ok
[06:32] <orbin> liquidindian: gnome toolkit.  it's the interface stuff that gnome apps are written with ... i think
[06:32] <sixpoint2> as in the machine boots off of the lan ?
[06:32] <tritium> mzuverink: you are correct
[06:32] <dj-fu> apt-cache show libgtk2.0-0
[06:32] <orbin> mzuverink: it is?
[06:32] <mustard5> yeah it is gimp tool kit ..doh.sorry
[06:32] <doms> what does  mean a cube mode in desktop
[06:32] <liquidindian> So if I change something in the X configuration, it will change in gnome, too.
[06:32] <dj-fu> gimp tool kit? lol
[06:32] <mzuverink> yeah, google gtk definition its the top link
[06:33] <dj-fu> The GTK+ graphical user interface library The GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces.
[06:33] <janinux2005> wolas
[06:33] <jerrykb> okay i'm from ye olde startx camp... using gdm, what file do I put commands in to have programs start when I start up gnome? (heh)
[06:33] <mzuverink> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtk
[06:33] <mustard5> liquidindian, I really don't know how to remap the keys, so I won't comment :)
[06:33] <matthew_w> Hey guys, what's XGL/Compiz?
[06:34] <FearMoth> lirc_serial isn't being loaded at boot because the serial port's busy (?) .. can I just throw "setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none" into my lirc startup script in /etc/init.d ? or is something else really using the port?
[06:34] <dj-fu> jerrykb, system >prefs > sessions
[06:34] <jerrykb> dj-fu: thank you
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: It's an OpenGL accelerated Xserver and compositing manager.
[06:34] <sixpoint2> matthew_w: google it
[06:34] <liquidindian> Basically my - key was broken in an earthquake, and I'm sick of copy pasting it.
[06:34] <doms> what does  mean a cube mode in desktop
[06:34] <sixpoint2> and windows manager
[06:34] <sixpoint2> *window manager
[06:34] <liquidindian> It makes using bash a tad difficult.
[06:35] <doms> and how do i user cube mode in my gnome
[06:35] <doms> and how do i use cube mode in my gnome
[06:35] <dj-fu> lol
[06:35] <matthew_w> I've been googling it
[06:35] <dj-fu> CUBE MODE!
[06:35] <orbin> doms: never heard of it.  url to what you're looking at?
[06:35] <mustard5> liquidindian, thats a pretty specialised problem :)
[06:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: Cube mode is a feature of Xgl/compiz where you have multpile desktops on multiple sides of a cube, and you get a cute animation when you switch between them.
[06:35] <sixpoint2> anyone have any idea how I would do a netboot install ?
[06:35] <dj-fu> matthew_w, if you want to use it, you'll need to run Ubuntu Dapper Drake (#ubuntu+1,#ubuntu-xgl)
[06:35] <lewing> matthew_w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[06:35] <hokatichenci> I've got apache2 running with php5 and I want mysql 4.1, mysql-client-4.1 is installed, mysql to the server manually works, but when I connect through php it says that the client needs to be upgraded
[06:36] <matthew_w> Some people have been talking about it being so revolutionary, all I've been able to come up with is it making your desktop into a cube X_X
[06:36] <hokatichenci> Is there a 4.1+ php5-mysql or is there something I need to do?
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> matthew_w: And your windows will bounce like Jell-O cubes! :o)
[06:36] <dj-fu> It's the platform to revolution, in it's self, it is not revolutionary
[06:36] <orbin> sixpoint2: as in over a network?
[06:36] <doms> yes that was what i mean
[06:36] <matthew_w> "revolutionary"
[06:36] <doms> how can i use that xgl
[06:36] <tritium> !xgl
[06:36] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: Install Dapper, then install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome.
[06:37] <dj-fu> I don't find it usefull at all, infact, I've gone back to a direct rendered 2d desktop.
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: sam
[06:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *same
[06:37] <doms> yeah i have dapper
[06:37] <dj-fu> the _only_ thing i've managed to do with it is show off to windows kiddies bragging about vista
[06:37] <mustard5> dj-fu, yeah I looked at the demo live CD and felt I could live without it :)
[06:37] <doms> compiz gnome thats all
[06:37] <dj-fu> take it to #ubuntu+1,#ubuntu-xgl guys
[06:37] <dj-fu> the poor breezy people will cry
[06:38] <matthew_w> Seems like more of a pain than it's worth
[06:38] <doms> compiz gnome cant affect my gnome desktop
[06:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !netinstall
[06:38] <ubotu> methinks netinstall is To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[06:38] <doms> no nvidia driver needed
[06:38] <dj-fu> It's not really hard to install, it's just not useful.
[06:39] <dj-fu> sure I can spin my cube, la di da, and have "true" transparency
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: It can, to a certain extent - you are, after all, using a different Xserver.  I found themes and keyboard shortcuts to be broken when I was using it, for example.
[06:39] <dj-fu> but yawn, I can't play ut2005
[06:39] <doms> only xervser-xgl and gnome compiz-gnome
[06:39] <doms> owsssssss
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah, Xgl needs some sort of pass-through mode for games and stuff.
[06:39] <dj-fu> yup
[06:39] <matthew_w> Also, is there anything at all beyond wine for running the 10,000 M$ games that I currently can't?
[06:39] <dj-fu> cedega
[06:39] <dj-fu> is beyond wine
[06:40] <dj-fu> dual booting with your favourite pirated version of windows is > wine, tool.
[06:40] <dj-fu> -l
[06:40] <matthew_w> Isn't cedega basically a commercialized version of wine?
[06:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ReactOS, as it matures. :)
[06:40] <sixpoint2> by netinstall I dont have any media to into the machine, just a hard drive
[06:40] <sixpoint2> so I want to netboot it off my laptop
[06:40] <dj-fu> cedega is wine with some more work on directx
[06:40] <doms> how do i run compiz-gnome i hav finish install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome what should i do to animate
[06:40] <sixpoint2> as in mount the image on my laptop and have it boot from there
[06:40] <tritium> doms: read the wiki howto I had ubotu give you the URL for
[06:40] <booht> can anyone tell me some good fast ubuntu packport mirrors?
[06:40] <dj-fu> PXE boot, sixpoint2 ?
[06:41] <dj-fu> !sources
[06:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:41] <miguelsr> hey
[06:41] <matthew_w> Hrm... How much of a difference is there really between Cedega and Wine?
[06:41] <sixpoint2> yes
[06:41] <mustard5> matthew_w, cedega has a nice interface :)
[06:41] <matthew_w> That's what I thought
[06:41] <orbin> i heard it was wine + directx ... am i wrong?
[06:41] <mustard5> matthew_w, and directx support
[06:42] <dj-fu> WoW still doesn' run with it, so I cry, and I dualboot.
[06:42] <matthew_w> But that doesn't make sense to me, for example, I play diabloII fine with wine
[06:42] <dj-fu> To think I paid for cedega, and it still doesn't work
[06:42] <doms> how do i run compiz-gnome i hav finish install xserver-xgl and compiz-gnome what should i do to animate
[06:42] <matthew_w> But diabloII needs DirectX, so... no sense to me
[06:42] <dj-fu> d2/d2x can run in OpenGL iirc?
[06:42] <matthew_w> doms did you upgrade to dapper? lol
[06:42] <doms> yes
[06:43] <doms> flight 6
[06:43] <dj-fu> doms, take a look here - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351 - that's what I used
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto has instructions on replacing xorg with xgl and metacity with compiz.
[06:43] <dj-fu> that wiki is a bad idea ^
[06:43] <doms> why
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: It's in ubotu o_O
[06:43] <doms> is bad
[06:43] <matthew_w> Here's a problem; I installed Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II with Wine...
[06:43] <dj-fu> It just is.
[06:44] <matthew_w> And now when I play it it says "no cd drive found"
[06:44] <matthew_w> X_X
[06:44] <dj-fu> Repalcing the xorg symlink with xgl = bad. Follow my linky
[06:44] <doms> why is bad?
[06:44] <Madpilot> guys - XGL talk really should move to #ubuntu-xgl - thanks
[06:44] <orbin> matthew_w: #winehq
[06:45] <tritium> dj-fu: the wiki page explains how to revert
[06:45] <daaku> i'm trying to custom name my ethernet adapters using udev on dapper.. i've tried these rules: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12966
[06:45] <mustard5> matthew_w, have you tried changing the winecfg to XP/Win200 for that app?
[06:45] <dj-fu> It's still bad. lol. Ok, don't take my word for it
[06:45] <matthew_w> Yea
[06:45] <matthew_w> I think I'll need a no-c
[06:45] <matthew_w> cd
[06:45] <mustard5> matthew_w, that might work
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dj-fu: True, that link is much better.
[06:46] <daaku> anyone know what the correct syntax is to map a custom name to a ethernet adapter based on its mac address using udev?
[06:46] <narg> what would be the best way to chmod all files, but not directories, recursively?
[06:46] <matthew_w> Here's a newbie question:  How do I mount a filesystem with read/write access!
[06:46] <matthew_w> lol
[06:46] <daaku> narg: find with the type option and xargs
[06:47] <narg> daaku: thanks :)
[06:47] <mustard5> matthew_w, what filesystem type?
[06:47] <dj-fu> mount -o rw /dev/whatever /media/mountpoint
[06:47] <dj-fu> (as root)
[06:47] <dj-fu> if you're talking about ntfs or fat32, /msg ubotu ntfs
[06:49] <XhyldazhK> hey... how do i report a .deb that is ancient and that with almost no effort can be replaced with a more up to date version?
[06:49] <matthew_w> vfat
[06:49] <minerale> bah, I laugh upon thou, developer who categorizes my graphic card into nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:49] <dj-fu> !tell matthew_w about ntfs
[06:49] <dj-fu> read the wiki page, it'll tell you the right umask=XXXX options
[06:49] <dj-fu> I forget what they are. Converted everything to ext3
[06:49] <dj-fu> vfat is a pita.
[06:50] <matthew_w> o-x
[06:50] <matthew_w> This used to be so simple
[06:50] <matthew_w> lol
[06:50] <XhyldazhK> vfat corrupts very easily
[06:50] <hokatichenci> Is there any way to get mysql 4.1 running with php5-mysql or do I need to compile php manually
[06:50] <daaku> matthew_w: there's also a way to set a default owner and group during mount time
[06:50] <dj-fu> and it has a max-file-size of 4gb (no 4gb+ dvd image!!)
[06:50] <minerale> tritium: ok here's the thing, it wasn't the drivers fault, my nvidia card was in the 'legacy' driver package, that's why I was having weird errors
[06:50] <mustard5> matthew_w, this link has a good explanation of mounting ntfs and fat too http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[06:51] <tritium> minerale: I see
[06:51] <minerale> tritium: the package info is actually wrong the GeForce4 MX is really a repackaged Geforce2 chipset
[06:51] <crimsun> tritium: the ipw2200 patch is currently unapplied (despite the changelog attribution); Matthew has already pinged Ben regarding it.
[06:52] <dj-fu> ipw2200?? I use one of those cards, something I should know about?
[06:52] <tritium> crimsun: is that so?  that's good to know.  How did you confirm this?
[06:52] <doms> how do i can get a postgresql with GUI environment i have finish installing a postgresql 8.0
[06:52] <tritium> dj-fu: it's a halt/reboot issue mostly affecting Toshiba laptops
[06:52] <dj-fu> ah. I have an acer
[06:52] <crimsun> tritium: Matthew applied the patch cleanly, thereby confirming his suspicion that it wasn't applied.
[06:52] <matthew_w> blech... too much effort.  haha
[06:53] <orbin> XhyldazhK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[06:53] <XhyldazhK> thanks!
[06:53] <tritium> crimsun: super news :)
[06:54] <doms> how do i can get a postgresql with GUI environment i have finish installing a postgresql 8.0
[06:54] <tritium> doms: please don't repeat
[06:54] <doms> ok
[06:54] <cafuego> doms: postgres is an SQL server + command line client. Any GUI would be external (check phppgadmin)
[06:54] <mustard5> Any ever experienced a symptom where the drumbeat keeps going over and over again at the gdm login screen?
[06:55] <cafuego> I assume oobase cna talk to postgres too.
[06:55] <mustard5> I've sort of worked around it by adding irqpoll to my startup
[06:56] <mustard5> My system seems to be having trouble allocating IRQ's I think
[06:56] <minerale> How do I get tab completion on apt-get install packages? It seems to work on some of my systems but not on others
[06:56] <doms> is phppgadmin is a gui front-end of PHP
[06:57] <hokatichenci> phppgadmin is php based, its like phpmyadmin, you use it over apache2
[06:57] <hokatichenci> or any webserver rather
[06:57] <dj-fu> tab completion on apt-get install packages? i've *never* seen that
[06:57] <dj-fu> tab completion is a part of BASH, afaik
[06:57] <orbin> minerale: tab complete on the package name?
[06:59] <orbin> mustard5: heard of that drum loop thing.  it's in the forum somewhere
[06:59] <GigaClon> does GNOME have an equal to Kompare?
[07:00] <hyphenated> kompare is awesome
[07:00] <mustard5> orbin, k..I'll have a look around. :)
[07:00] <rothga1> I cannot seem to install lame in 6.06  I have tried apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.  It looks like it installed but when I try to build mythtv it gives me the error that I need to have the LAME MP3 encoding library installed.  I have searched the forums and wiki but i couldn't find another way to install it.
[07:00] <Madpilot> GigaByte_, what does kompare do?
[07:00] <janinux2005> hello
[07:00] <hyphenated> Madpilot: it makes diffs looks awesome
[07:00] <GigaClon> diff viewer and so much more
[07:00] <rothga1> hello janinux
[07:00] <orbin> GigaClon: you do know you can use kde apps in gnome right?
[07:00] <GigaClon> yeah
[07:00] <Madpilot> hmm, no idea - I just use the CLI diff tools when I have to deal w/ diffs
[07:00] <GigaClon> I just wondered if there was GNOME ver
[07:01] <minerale> orbin: oh ok, I found out, if you are running zsh & are root it'll work, try it.. just type apt-get install ncur<TAB> and it will complete, press tab again it will show you options, just like for filename completion
[07:01] <GigaClon> it allows you to apply only certain diffs in a file
[07:01] <specialbuddy> has anyone else had a problem installing firefox
[07:01] <narg> find . -type f | xargs | chmod 660 <-- echo terminates with SIGPIPE from this, what is wrong with it?
[07:01] <tritium> specialbuddy: it's installed by default
[07:01] <hyphenated> Madpilot: it's kinda like the viewcvs (web frontend for cvs) diff viewing thing
[07:01] <specialbuddy> no
[07:01] <specialbuddy> the new version
[07:01] <hyphenated> but with buttons to apply each change
[07:01] <hyphenated> and much prettier :-)
[07:01] <orbin> GigaClon: what about xxdiff?
[07:01] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, you mean FF 1.5.x?
[07:02] <specialbuddy> yeah
[07:02] <Coir> Can someone tell me the difference in edubuntu-live and edubuntu-desktop packages?
[07:02] <Madpilot> !tell specialbuddy about ff1.5
[07:02] <orbin> minerale: sweet
[07:02] <tritium> minerale: nice job, by the way :)
[07:02] <minerale> orbin: I think there's a bash extension that allows for extended completion too, but I still like zsh better
[07:02] <specialbuddy> I went through that and it still doesn't seem to work
[07:02] <hyphenated> Coir: -live is probably the set of packages that are on the livecd. -desktop is the set installed by default for a desktop install
[07:03] <orbin> minerale: i've never used zsh.  any other advantages?
[07:03] <specialbuddy> I installed it and I sitll have version 1.08
[07:04] <Coir> Does anyone know the dif. in edubuntu-live and edubuntu-desktop? =P
[07:04] <minerale> orbin: yeah, in zsh you can have right size prompts (ie the current path) and it automatically 'hides' when you type something over it... you can have multi-line prompts, insane scripting abilities, it's man page is divided into thirteen sub-man pages...
[07:05] <minerale> right size -> right side
[07:05] <narg> why would you want a rightside prompt...?
[07:05] <minerale> narg: so you don't clutter your left side with long paths
[07:06] <narg> minerale: hrm. I like leftside myself, makes more sense to read. Each to his own.
[07:06] <liquidindian> If anyone's interested  I solved my problem :)
[07:06] <liquidindian>
[07:07] <mustard5> orbin, well I found my thread on the same issue. :)  Hehehe..haven't found any others yet..still looking
[07:07] <orbin> liquidindian: how?
[07:07] <liquidindian> xkeycaps
[07:07] <liquidindian> My hyphen is now on F10
[07:08] <orbin> liquidindian: thaks for sharing
[07:08] <orbin> s/thaks/thanks
[07:08] <gopi> hello
[07:09] <gopi> can any one help me to learn linux
[07:09] <orbin> mustard5: let me try.  i'm sure i've heard the prob before
[07:09] <Madpilot> gopi, that's a very open-ended question...
[07:10] <orbin> gopi: anything specific?
[07:10] <mustard5> orbin, thanks I'm posting my workaround in a few threads that I have found, and still searching for more.
[07:10] <Deanodriver> hmm
[07:10] <welshbyte> gopi: find something you want to do on linux and then read documentation for it, then if you get stuck ask someone. lather, rinse, repeat.
[07:10] <Deanodriver> having trouble getting an SSH server running
[07:11] <tritium> Deanodriver: did you install it?
[07:11] <Deanodriver> i've installed openssh-server on the server
[07:11] <Deanodriver> but i ssh into it on this, and no luck
[07:11] <gopi> i am very sorry to say that, i have been working with linux for atleast 2 years and i am no where.
[07:12] <Deanodriver> wait
[07:12] <Deanodriver> i know what i need to do
[07:12] <Deanodriver> switch off dhcp
[07:12] <Deanodriver> how do i configure network from commandline?
[07:12] <Deanodriver> is it a dpkg-reconfigure thing?
[07:12] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:12] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:13] <Deanodriver> ok, sorry
[07:13] <jerrykb> cli network settings in /etc/network
[07:13] <Deanodriver> ok
[07:13] <Deanodriver> what file to i need to configure to assign an IP address to the computer?
[07:13] <Deanodriver> rather than DHCP/
[07:14] <jerrykb> /etc/network/interfaces
[07:14] <tritium> Deanodriver: "man interfaces" for some info
[07:14] <jerrykb> line should start with iface (name) inet static
[07:15] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks
[07:15] <Deanodriver> bbl, gotta plug the server in
[07:16] <cafuego> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfggh
[07:18] <orbin> mustard5: gee, i can't really find anything (i saw your post)
[07:19] <orbin> mustard5: have you tried "disabling the sound sever on startup" method?
[07:19] <specialbuddy> that firefox wiki sucks
[07:19] <mustard5> orbin, thanks for looking..I'm making progress (a bit)...I wanted to avoid that, as I only just recently got it all to work (the sound server and stuff)
[07:20] <specialbuddy> everytime I go to open firefox it keeps opening the old one
[07:20] <mustard5> orbin, I'm pretty certain its a sound card driver issue in combination with an IRQ allocation problem
[07:20] <mustard5> orbin, I can fix it with irqpoll as a kernel option from grub, but that is creating other problems atm
[07:20] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, wait until June 1st then, the next release of Ubuntu will have FF 1.5.x by default
[07:21] <mustard5> orbin, so I'm looking for a definitive solution that fixes all atm :)
[07:21] <orbin> crimsun: ping
[07:21] <specialbuddy> is there a big difference between the two
[07:22] <specialbuddy> I mean I have it installed right now and it works but I can't get the symbolic link to work
[07:22] <orbin> mustard5: get a hold of crimsun when he becomes active.  he's fixed a lot of sound issues for people in here
[07:22] <mustard5> orbin, I can't say for sure what combinations of settings I have used which give me the greatest success.  It's been a case of moving the sound card around in PCI slots and finding out which ones seem to work together
[07:22] <rothga1> can anyone help me install lame in 6.06?
[07:23] <GigaClon> !dapper
[07:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:23] <rothga1> cool, thanks
[07:23] <orbin> specialbuddy: what's not working w/ the link?
[07:23] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, no idea - I'm an Opera user myself, I can't stand FF :P
[07:23] <specialbuddy> is dapper going to be worth upgrading to
[07:23] <crimsun> orbin: pong
[07:23] <mustard5> orbin, yeah...I think I need to get a better handle on all the details of the problem first beforehand though.  I started getting lockups on my nvidia splashscreen at some stage
[07:23] <Madpilot> specialbuddy, absolutely
[07:23] <specialbuddy> it's just not linking
[07:24] <orbin> crimsun: hello, heard of the drumbeat sounds looping?
[07:24] <orbin> s/sounds/sound
[07:24] <specialbuddy> I tried to figure it out
[07:24] <crimsun> orbin: yes, it's a faq iirc
[07:24] <Fuelbottle> what is the apt sources for ubuntu unstable?
[07:24] <orbin> crimsun: mustard5's the one w/ the issue
[07:24] <specialbuddy> I don't the the firefox.ubuntu thing
[07:24] <mustard5> crimsun, yeah?  any idea where I can find it?
[07:24] <crimsun> orbin: I don't recall the precise details, but it's googleable and ubotuable
[07:24] <specialbuddy> but it is installed, I just have to go to that file to open it
[07:24] <mustard5> crimsun, ah ok
[07:25] <VR_> im trying to compile bmpx. i'm missing SMlib, does anyone know which package that could be?
[07:25] <mustard5> crimsun, I'll check it out...been looking at it for a while now, just haven't found the right source of information yet
[07:26] <crimsun> VR_: the build-dependencies for bmpx are listed on bmpx's Web page
[07:26] <orbin> crimsun: ubotuable?  any suggested keywords?  i can't find anything here: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:26] <specialbuddy> so what's going to make dapper better?
[07:26] <crimsun> mustard5: iirc 'gdm', 'via', 'loop'
[07:26] <mustard5> crimsun, thanks
[07:29] <mustard5> orbin, yeah..nothing in ubotu atm...I'm doing google and forum searches atm :)
[07:30] <VR_> crimsun: i dont see smlib anywhere
[07:31] <crimsun> VR_: it's pulled in by libsm-dev, which is a dependency of libgtk2.0-dev
[07:31] <fogos> hi... someone could give me please a address for download servers for amule
[07:31] <VR_> thats not the same as libgsmme-dev, is it
[07:31] <crimsun> very different.
[07:32] <VR_> i dont have a libsm-dev in my repos
[07:32] <jerrykb> fogos:  deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/
[07:32] <Confidential> what is the "xfs" thing in the boot?
[07:33] <fogos> jerrykb>, i mean adress for server.met file
[07:33] <jerrykb> fogos:  http://ed2k.2x4u.de/index.html
[07:33] <liquidindian> Where is my login script located?
[07:34] <crimsun> VR_: you don't have main enabled?
[07:34] <VR_> or maybe i do have it...
[07:34] <fogos> jerrykb>, thanks
[07:34] <VR_> i did a search for smlib, and nothing came up. made a mistake.
[07:34] <VR_> but it's in there.
[07:34] <VR_> so lemme try again.
[07:35] <Deanodriver> thanks for that, it works fine now :)
[07:35] <Double_D> anyone: i'm trying to upgrade my firefox.  i followed the step-by-step instructions at the wiki site, but when i try to execute 'firefox' from the terminal or from the launcher icon, i receive an error that permission is denied.
[07:35] <Double_D> terminal error also states that the command is not found.
[07:36] <Double_D> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling and i can't even get my 1.0.8 back.  can someone help me?
[07:36] <orbin> Double_D: upgrade from <IP_ADDRESS> or, install of 1.5?
[07:36] <jerrykb> Double_D,   ls -al /usr/bin/firefox  what's it say?
[07:36] <Double_D> install of 1.5
[07:36] <VR_> would it be dangerous to install gstreamer10 on breezy
[07:36] <Confidential> what is the "xfs" thing in the boot?
[07:37] <orbin> liquidindian: what are you gonna do?
[07:37] <Double_D> jerrykb: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 2006-04-27 00:15 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox
[07:37] <jerrykb> /opt/firefox exists?
[07:37] <Double_D> jerrykb: that should be /opt/firefox/firefox, shouldn't it?
[07:37] <liquidindian> orbin, add the line xmodmap ~/.xmodmap'uname n' in somewhere
[07:37] <Double_D> yes.
[07:37] <Double_D> it's a directory.
[07:38] <jerrykb> Yes, should be /opt/firefox/firefox
[07:38] <intelikey> hehhe run the dir   :)
[07:38] <Double_D> ack, what's the command to change that?
[07:38] <intelikey> directories do need to be executable byw.
[07:38] <sphex> hi. ok, newb question: how to enable sshd?
[07:38] <jerrykb> sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[07:39] <intelikey> you'll have to rm the old link to make a new one prolly
[07:39] <Madpilot> !tell sphex about ssh
[07:39] <jerrykb> or ;use -f
[07:39] <orbin> intelikey: yeah, i chmodded wrong once and was wondering why nautilus coudn't enter the dir.  i thought i lost all my data
[07:39] <sphex> alright. thanks, ubotu.
[07:39] <Double_D> so, sudo ln -s -f ...?
[07:39] <jerrykb> yes
[07:40] <Double_D> glenn@MetalBox:/opt/firefox$ sudo ln -s -f /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefoxln: `/opt/firefox/firefox' and `/usr/bin/firefox/firefox' are the same file
[07:40] <intelikey> orbin hehhe yeah.    i have most dirs on this box set  001   that's  --------x  perms  :)
[07:40] <jerrykb> o.O
[07:40] <jerrykb> maybe i got the order backwards?
[07:41] <doms> how do i know my local host
[07:41] <Double_D> okay, took it that time.  now there were two links i was supposed to do that to.
[07:41] <sphex> BTW, is there a big difference between `apt-get install` and `aptitude install`?
[07:41] <Double_D> unfortunately, i can no longer see the wiki page :P, do you know what that other link was?
[07:41] <theCore> what is the proper way to install source packages from upstream CVS repository?
[07:41] <jerrykb> erm...
[07:42] <Double_D> i think it was a mozilla-firefox to the same /opt/firefox/firefox....
[07:42] <jerrykb> oh.. uh
[07:42] <jerrykb> hang on
[07:42] <orbin> sphex: different apt tools.  matter of preference
[07:42] <doms> something the place of va/www/ how do open it
[07:42] <Confidential> !tell me about rpm
[07:42] <doms> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:42] <intelikey> hut- OH!  i have a hanged gui on box number 1     eeek
[07:43] <intelikey> 172 ?    errr 127 maybe
[07:43] <doms> localhost
[07:43] <slavik> :D
[07:44] <jerrykb> Double_D:  cd /opt/firefox/plugins/ ; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .   ;  sudo rm libtotem_mozilla.*
[07:44] <doms> sori 127
[07:44] <jerrykb> that one?
[07:44] <intelikey> looks like  X is not taking input from kbd   and nothing running but X  so mouse is useless....
[07:45] <Jeffnet> hias, how do i run root commands from the console? specifically how do i edit resolv.conf ?
[07:45] <sphex> orbin: okay
[07:45] <Double_D> alright.
[07:45] <Jeffnet> and how do i turn off DHCP and set my own static ip?
[07:45] <SaLoMoN> sudo
[07:45] <SaLoMoN> or sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[07:45] <jerrykb> Jeffnet,   sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf, sudo /etc/network/interfaces
[07:45] <Jeffnet> SaLoMoN yes i know that much
[07:45] <Jeffnet> oh, ok so no need for cmd line switches to sudo...
[07:45] <Jeffnet> and the pass is just my user pass yes?
[07:46] <jerrykb> yep
[07:46] <SaLoMoN> mhh
[07:46] <SaLoMoN> i have dhcp :|
[07:46] <intelikey> ouch.   had to   [alt] +[sysctl]  B   the thing.
[07:46] <Double_D> okay, did that, i still get command not found.
[07:47] <jerrykb> o.O
[07:47] <RancidLM> /Ot: does any one here use PGP for emails?
[07:47] <jerrykb> Double_D,   cd /opt/firefox and do:  ./firefox
[07:47] <jerrykb> anything come up?
[07:48] <Double_D> no such fire or directory.
[07:48] <RancidLM> im wanting to back up my ubuntu but wanna back up my pgp for signing emails .. is their a spcific dir to back up?
[07:48] <theCore> how could I install a CVS version of gstreamer?
[07:49] <Double_D> is there any way i just uninstall the whole damn thing and just install 1.0.8 from synaptic?  i've tried just installing, but i getting 'permission denied' returned.
[07:49] <sphex> hey. how to "reload" /etc/network/interfaces after a change?
[07:49] <Jeffnet> k, so i set up resolv.conf correctly
[07:49] <jerrykb> Double_D,  sudo synaptic and mark firefox for re-install should do it.
[07:49] <intelikey> i'v got to get the three fingure solute working on that box.  this forced reset  it got to be hard on the fs.
[07:49] <Jeffnet> afaik, but hostnames still don't resolv
[07:49] <SaLoMoN> sudo?
[07:49] <Jeffnet> i got setup with DHCP but DHCP set me up wrong... my router gave me itself as the name server
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:50] <Jeffnet> ahh k
[07:50] <sphex> SaLoMoN: thanks
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> the router should give you itself as nameservers
[07:50] <sleepy_> hello
[07:50] <intelikey> anyone ever have a box that ctrl+alt+del  didn't work  and it was set in the inittab ?
[07:50] <Double_D> okay, now it says no such file or directory after i did that.
[07:50] <jerrykb> router should by your DNS.
[07:50] <SaLoMoN> it routes from antoher nameserver
[07:50] <sleepy_> does anyone know how to run ubuntu without opening x-windows
[07:51] <sleepy_> ?
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> but if it doenswt work u can try with other nameservers...
[07:51] <mzuverink> how do I map gcc to version 3.4.5, currently it is 4.0?
[07:51] <crimsun> mzuverink: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:51] <doms> is their something equavalent flash for linux
[07:51] <sphex> SaLoMoN: uh oh. I get a red "fail". anyway to get more verbosity?
[07:51] <Jeffnet> grrr, where is the main config file?
[07:51] <crimsun> mzuverink: then export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:51] <intelikey> sleepy start single
[07:51] <Jeffnet> is there one? like rc.conf?
[07:51] <jerrykb> sleepy:  change /etc/inittab to default to runlevel 3 instead of 5
[07:51] <doms> i use nvu
[07:51] <sleepy_> start single?
[07:51] <erpo> What do I need to compile into me kernel to get graphical init to work? I compiled my own kernel, but now init boots in text mode without the ubuntu logo and progress bar.
[07:51] <sleepy_> ok
[07:51] <Jeffnet> where do i go to change my network settings to not use DHCP
[07:51] <sleepy_> thanks
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> lol sphex
[07:51] <jerrykb> Jeffnet /etc/network/interfaces
[07:51] <crimsun> jerrykb: (Ubuntu has 2-5 being identical by default)
[07:51] <SaLoMoN> try to stop and start it by hand
[07:51] <tritium> Jeffnet: we told you.../etc/network/interfaces
[07:52] <intelikey> sleepy_ yes  at the boot prompt  [esc]    and edit the boot line   add   1
[07:52] <Double_D> jerrykb: i marked it for reinstallation, and now i receive an error that the file doesn't exist.
[07:52] <SaLoMoN> cYa
[07:52] <tritium> Jeffnet: you may want to "man interfaces"
[07:52] <jerrykb> crimson: oh?  erm...
[07:52] <sphex> SaLoMoN: guess I just read interfaces(5) better too
[07:52] <Jeffnet> sorry, didn't see it, it scrolled by while i was working with resolv.conf
[07:52] <crimsun> jerrykb: yes, it's inherited from Debian
[07:53] <doms> is their something like flash for linux or equavalent
[07:53] <jerrykb> remove x, gdm from rc.d?
[07:53] <jerrykb> would that do it?
[07:53] <tritium> doms: flashplugin, yes
[07:53] <jerrykb> er rc5.d even?
[07:54] <Double_D> is there a way to do a system restore with ubuntu?
[07:54] <doms> no what i want is to install something like flash software
[07:54] <intelikey> ah looks like maybe the little app  fix_bs_and_del   may be able to fix the hotkey reboot....
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doms: There is flash for linux, made by the same people who made flash for windows.
[07:54] <doms> so i can use for nvu
[07:54] <sleepy_> thank you very much
[07:54] <doms> what was the site pls.
[07:54] <Jeffnet> what's up with "hotpluggable" interfaces?
[07:54] <suyog> wheredoes w32codecs install itself?
[07:54] <Jeffnet> i don't have a laptop or wifi
[07:54] <Jeffnet> do i need that or can i comment it out?
[07:55] <orbin> suyog: dpkg -L <package>
[07:55] <tritium> jerrykb: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:55] <jerrykb> tritium, thx
[07:55] <suyog> orbin: thank you!
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimsun: it reports that the export CC=gcc-3.4 does not exist
[07:56] <doms> what was the site pls. of flash for linux
[07:56] <crimsun> mzuverink: did you ``sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4''?
[07:56] <intelikey> !flash
[07:56] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimus: yes
[07:56] <mzuverink> crimsun:yes
[07:57] <crimsun> mzuverink: and then you typed ``export CC=gcc-3.4''?
[07:57] <mzuverink> crimsun:yes
[07:57] <crimsun> mzuverink: pastebin the output from ``gcc-3.4 -v''
[07:58] <mzuverink> crimsun: I sudo'd it, that was my mistake, it is working now, thank you
[07:58] <crimsun> mzuverink: np
[07:59] <intelikey> ah ha.  the delete key is not working correctly in console mode..... now how to fix it ???
[07:59] <mustard5> crimsun, about the only solution I have found so far are some kernel options to try pci=noacpi  acpi=off noapic nolapic :)
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, does that sound right?
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, well not all of them...just some of them
[08:00] <crimsun> mustard5: sorry, missing context. For what problem?
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, drumbeat infinite loop
[08:00] <mustard5> crimsun, at gdm login on VIA motherboard
[08:00] <crimsun> mustard5: yes, that's are possible workarounds. How does each fare?
[08:01] <mustard5> I'm just about to try them...I'm using irqpoll atm, but its created other issues
[08:01] <crimsun> s/that's/those/
[08:01] <mustard5> crimsun, so I'm going to try these ones and see if they are a better workaround
[08:01] <crimsun> ok.
[08:02] <intelikey> it seems that  [del]   does [bs]  in sted    anyone know what to do on a 104key  to fix this ?
[08:03] <Jeffnet> hmmm, /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't seem to be honoring /etc/network/interfaces
[08:03] <Jeffnet> as in my eth0 doesn't come up on network restart
[08:04] <Jeffnet> right now i just have two lines
[08:04] <Jeffnet> iface eth0 inet static
[08:04] <Jeffnet> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:04] <crimsun> grep ^'auto eth0' /etc/network/interfaces
[08:04] <crimsun> well if it's just two lines, of course it won't up on boot.
[08:04] <crimsun> you're missing the requisite "auto eth0"
[08:05] <Jeffnet> k i just put it in there
[08:05] <Jeffnet> still doesn't work
[08:05] <Jeffnet> just restarted
[08:05] <crimsun> it'll up, but it'll probably be useless until you provide a netmask and gateway
[08:05] <Jeffnet> mmm, ifconfig reports that only lo is up
[08:05] <Jeffnet> even after adding auto eth0
[08:06] <crimsun> does eth0 appear at all?
[08:06] <Jeffnet> eth0 was up as DHCP before
[08:06] <Jeffnet> but i was told to use /etc/init.d/networking restart to affect the changes in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:06] <kaizoku> hello
[08:06] <Jeffnet> crimson, and no, now eth0 does not appear at all
[08:06] <slavik> Jeffnet: do 'ifconfig' in terminal
[08:07] <Jeffnet> slavik, did... only loopback comes up
[08:07] <kaizoku> how can I boot into just a terminal, without xwindows?
[08:07] <crimsun> Jeffnet: then the driver for that network card isn't loaded
[08:07] <Jeffnet> kaizoku, runlevel 3
[08:07] <slavik> ooh, not good
[08:07] <ic56> intelikey: when you say "[del]  does [bs] ", presumably you mean the [DEL]  key is outputing a control-H character?
[08:07] <Jeffnet> crimson, mmmm it came up on boot as DHCP though
[08:07] <slavik> crimsun: I got kismet to run :D
[08:07] <Jeffnet> i probed it before with ifconfig
[08:07] <Jeffnet> and it was up
[08:07] <kaizoku> hwo do I use runlevel 3?
[08:07] <Jeffnet> but after restarting the network after changes to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:08] <Jeffnet> it doesn't come up
[08:08] <Jeffnet> and i only have those two lines
[08:08] <crimsun> kaizoku: the same way you use runlevels 2, 4, and 5
[08:08] <kaizoku> *how
[08:08] <intelikey> kaizoku boot into single     runlevel 1    ?      or permanant fix ?
[08:08] <minerale> I have mounted another partition on the same hard drive (ntfs), it mounts fine, but when I try to read it's contents it hangs (I can hear the drive spinning) ... I can boot windows from that partition just fine... idea anyone?
[08:08] <kaizoku> I don't know how to use those?
[08:08] <kaizoku> single
[08:08] <Jeffnet> it *should* at least come up no? whether it is of any use is another story
[08:08] <kaizoku> I just need to install something that requires x windows servers to be close
[08:08] <kaizoku> *closed
[08:08] <crimsun> Jeffnet: pastebin your dmesg
[08:08] <orbin> minerale: pastebin /etc/fstab
[08:09] <intelikey> ic56 i don't know what a "control-H character" is  i mean if i type some text and start hitting the [del]  key it starts backspacing and removing the text.
[08:09] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  has any one here had any problems with not getting a NIC to come up on Breazy?
[08:09] <slavik> control-H is the backspace in some terminals ...
[08:09] <slavik> or with some settings
[08:09] <Jeffnet> crimson, hahah, right... i would... if my network on that machine were up
[08:09] <s|k> what are the gtk devel packages I need for mplayer?
[08:09] <s|k> !mplayer
[08:09] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:09] <Jeffnet> i'm not gonna type my whole dmesg sorry
[08:10] <crimsun> s|k: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[08:10] <intelikey> kaizoku at the boot prompt   [esc]    and  edit the  kernel line  adding  1   then boot.
[08:10] <s|k> crimsun: doesn't work
[08:10] <slavik> Jeffnet: pastebin it
[08:10] <Jeffnet> slavik, perhaps you didn't understand what i just said?
[08:10] <kaizoku> ok, thank you very much
[08:10] <Jeffnet> anyway, eth0 came up on boot already!!!
[08:10] <minerale> orbin: http://pastebin.com/684412  --it's hda1
[08:10] <crimsun> s|k: enable deb-src for main restricted universe multiverse
[08:10] <Jeffnet> it's just after i reconfigged /etc/network/interfaces
[08:11] <intelikey> kaizoku it's not required to reboot.
[08:11] <Jeffnet> why would that be?
[08:11] <crimsun> intelikey: what does stty -a tell you about erase?
[08:11] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I'd like to know what you did.  I can't even get my card to come up after a fresh install.
[08:11] <ic56> intelikey: ok. That's reasonable behaviour for Linux.  My logs show you were investigating a ctl-alt-del not working problem?  So you don't actually mind the behaviour of the del key itself.  Right?
[08:11] <intelikey> kaizoku you could just issue  sudo init 1  and get to the same place.
[08:11] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, uhhh, i didn't do anything "special"
[08:11] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, i just installed ubuntu...
[08:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I rember one of my other boxes doing this.  I can ifconfig eth0 up and it will come up, but won't pull a DHCP, and if I static it, the card won't talk to the network
[08:12] <intelikey> ic56 actually yes i do mind it.... but had just traced the problem of the  ctl-alt-del  to that point.
[08:12] <Jeffnet> yeh
[08:12] <Jeffnet> my forcedeth driver is loaded as a module
[08:13] <Jeffnet> sudo lsmod
[08:13] <orbin> minerale: where'd you get that options set from? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:13] <Jeffnet> | grep forcedeth
[08:13] <Jeffnet> yeilds the driver
[08:13] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  so, any ideas on this one?  Its kinda annoying. I'd like to get the card up so I can start to install the SMTP server.
[08:13] <Jeffnet> and that is the driver for my card...
[08:13] <intelikey> crimsun what exactly am i looking for there in   stty -a  ?
[08:13] <orbin> minerale: go to that page and use the relevant options set in the table under "editing fstab manualy"
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, what card?
[08:13] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  eth0
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, you may need to load the appropriate module... but i'm having a tough time with mine even when my module is loaded
[08:13] <crimsun> intelikey: whether erase = ^?; appears
[08:13] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, no no... what's your actual card
[08:14] <Jeffnet> Jeeves_Moss, make model chipset
[08:14] <ic56> intelikey: I don't recall how to fix ctl-alt-del but I am expert in command line control issues.  What behaviour do you want from your [DEL]  key?
[08:14] <ervine> hello
[08:14] <ervine> hi
[08:14] <crimsun> intelikey: if not, is it set to ^H  ?
[08:14] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I pulled this card from a knowen working box.    I'll have to pull the card to look @ it again.
[08:14] <intelikey> crimsun there seems to be no mention of  del   but erase = ^?   is there.
[08:14] <jazzmister> hello
[08:15] <Jeeves_Moss> Jeffnet:  I find it strange that I can force the card up (the show up on ifconfig), but I can't get it to talk to the oustide world.
[08:15] <intelikey> ic56  i want [del]   to  delete  like it is supposed to  :)
[08:16] <crimsun> intelikey: try: stty erase '^H'
[08:16] <orbin> intelikey: is this straight console? or gnome-terminal?
[08:16] <ic56> intelikey: meaning you want it to delete characters to the right of the cursor rather than to backspace over characters to teh left of the cursor?
[08:16] <minerale> orbin: I did not set that up, the default install for ubuntu did it, i'm not quite sure where/how that mount is called
[08:17] <s|k> crimsun: I have dapper, I can't seem to get the multiverse or universe repositories to stay checked
[08:17] <intelikey> orbin console
[08:17] <crimsun> s|k: and if you manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list using $EDITOR ?
[08:17] <noiesmo> s|k, you need to apply at bottom of adept display repos page
[08:17] <fxc065> hi is there a pre installed program for the kid to organize schedule? ive gone to #edubuntu but i think everybody's in sleepy mode
[08:18] <intelikey> ic56 actually the char above the cursor   pulling the ones to the right back to it.   not the  char to the left of the cursor  and backing the cursor up         but  yes  i think we are saying the same thing ...
[08:18] <orbin> gee, kids need to schedule these days? :-/
[08:19] <intelikey> crimsun  setting    stty erase '^H'      youch...  not that.
[08:19] <orbin> minerale: ok, try the wiki options instead: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: ok, so you've got another keymapping issue altogether, it seems
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: reverting it to ^? should ... well, revert it to the 'less broken' one
[08:20] <eric> hi all. Is this a good place to ask noob questions ?
[08:20] <crimsun> !ask
[08:20] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:20] <orbin> eric: sure
[08:20] <intelikey> crimsun yeah it did but it borked the  bs key now  lol
[08:21] <eric> ok .. thanks
[08:22] <intelikey> bassicly   my del key is doing what bs should do.  and  bs is hosed  it prints  ^H  when pressed
[08:22] <jenda> Good morning... my metacity hangs on start up - is there a way to diagnose that? Say a detailed log that would tell me what it's doing?
[08:22] <Jeffnet> does anyone have any familiarity with the forcedeth drivers?
[08:22] <Jeffnet> there's not much to go on with google
[08:23] <wy> Anyone has ideas about an opensource chat server?
[08:23] <eric> trying to play  an encryped dvd commerical movie in vlc using breezy. VLC was downloaded using synaptic, I know deCSS is active, and so is DMA. The movie comes up stuttering, with more noise than picture.
[08:23] <ic56> intelikey: ok, so we understand each other.  And here's the answer: what you want is not available in a traditional unix teletype, which is what Linux console mode emulates.  However, the GNU line library, may be capable of overriding that.
[08:24] <Jeffnet> wy, yes lots of people have lots of ideas about open source chat servers
[08:24] <intelikey> ic56 what i want works in hoary just fine.  and all other linux's  but this dapper upgrade is the only place it doesn't work
[08:24] <Jeffnet> wy, what idea would you like?
[08:24] <wy> Jeffnet:  I'd like something like icq or MSN. But the server source code must be open source
[08:25] <ic56> intelikey: I see however that your stty settings are incorrect, given your keyboard map.  Type "stty erase '^h'", like crimsun advised you.  This will fix your [Backspace]  key.  Once that is remapped, [DEL]  might just work too.  Or it might not.  Let me know.
[08:25] <orbin> eric: does it work in totem?
[08:26] <eric> orbin, totem semi-freezes
[08:26] <intelikey> ic56 yes.  that fixed the bs key.  now what is the code for  standard  del
[08:27] <orbin> eric: install totem-xine, then try it again
[08:27] <r0xoR> yay, internet works now
[08:27] <r0xoR> schweet
[08:27] <minerale> orbin: I changed fstab, mounted hda1 -t ntfs /media/win ... but when I ls I get a huge list of files such as "ZZZQ42D0.RUD'
[08:27] <eric> ok. Any thoughts why vlc is unhappy ?
[08:28] <intelikey> on this box erase is set to ^?   and it works correctly.      why doesn't that work on the other box ?
[08:29] <ic56> intelikey: there are multiple software layers involved here.    Only backspace exists and it's called "erase".  Above that layer, sits the readline library (optionally -- bash uses it older shells don't have anything like that.  The question is, what is the behaviour of your [DEL]  key now?
[08:29] <daaku> wy: jabber?
[08:30] <r0xoR> is mozilla thunderbird an available package on ubuntu?
[08:30] <orbin> minerale: so you remounted the partition?
[08:30] <wy> daaku:  It's OK. I think. Where can I find a good server
[08:30] <intelikey> it prints  ^?  on the screen ic56
[08:30] <daaku> wy: maybe http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml will help?
[08:30] <orbin> r0xoR: yes
[08:30] <minerale> orbin: yep, did so manually... i'll try the automagical script to see if it works
[08:31] <intelikey> [del] [del] [del] [del]  = ^?^?^?^?
[08:31] <r0xoR> orbin, ok how do i install it
[08:31] <r0xoR> i don't see it in synaptic
[08:31] <r0xoR> and sudo apt-get install thunderbird doesn't work
[08:31] <orbin> r0xoR: it's called mozilla-thunderbird
[08:31] <r0xoR> tried that too
[08:31] <orbin> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[08:31] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10124 kB, Installed size: 30572 kB
[08:31] <r0xoR> ... so what command do i use to install it
[08:32] <orbin> it's in main.  are your repos sources ok?
[08:32] <wy> daaku: Thank you very much!
[08:32] <daaku> intelikey: i had that problem on some machine too, i fixed that instance by adding 'set input-meta on' in ~/.inputrc (it was a while ago, but i'm pretty sure it was that line)
[08:32] <daaku> wy: np
[08:32] <r0xoR> orbin, i haven't set up any repos yet... i was wondering if there were outside repos you guys use?
[08:32] <r0xoR> or if there's basically just the default ubuntu repo
[08:32] <r0xoR> (i'm coming from fedora lately)
[08:32] <orbin> ubotu: tell r0xoR about components
[08:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell r0xoR about repos
[08:33] <orbin> r0xoR: check the pms from ubotu ... and welcome aboard
[08:34] <intelikey> daaku that didn't seem to change a thing.
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: the reason your two boxes behave differently is that the keyboard map (which is the layer below the tty device driver) has been set to be different.  Keyboard maps I'm not familiar with, so I can't help you with making your two boxes same.  However, your immediate problem is to configure readline to recognize character 127 (which is what ^? is) and map it to a right delete function.  The command daaku recommends
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: ... but the config file is the right one. Try it.
[08:34] <ic56> intelikey: Checking the bash manpage now for you.
[08:35] <ic56> intelikey: ok the function you want is called forward-backward-delete-char hang on...
[08:35] <r0xoR> orbin, , yup that looks like it did it
[08:35] <intelikey> ok
[08:36] <eric> orbin, xine-totem works ! Very cool -- ty !
[08:36] <r0xoR> oh wow, did that ever do it :)
[08:36] <orbin> eric: yw.  weird though.  i thought vlc was the supposed play-anything player
[08:36] <orbin> r0xoR: sweet
[08:36] <r0xoR> ok now i have an icon in my upper right taskbar saying "New updates available"
[08:37] <r0xoR> should i trust that?
[08:37] <r0xoR> lol... that thing is dangerous on fedora :P
[08:37] <intelikey> ic56 echo 'forward-backward-delete-char on' > .inputrc    ?
[08:37] <orbin> r0xoR: well, you updated your repositories, so it found updates for installed packages
[08:37] <orbin> r0xoR: yeah, it's pretty safe
[08:38] <r0xoR> k, i think i'll do that last... before i go to sleep
[08:38] <r0xoR> which will be soon actually
[08:38] <orbin> r0xoR: apt is a lot better than rpm from what i've heard
[08:38] <daaku> intelikey: actually, you need to reproduce the exact control char in .inputrc, i can tell you how to do that with vim
[08:38] <ic56> intelikey: try adding this to your ~/.inputrc : set forward-backward-delete-char d
[08:38] <intelikey> k  testing
[08:38] <daaku> ic56: cool. didnt know about that
[08:38] <ic56> intelikey: oops there should be a backslash before teh trailing d.
[08:39] <YouCeyE> hi.. how can i configure headset with microphone in linux?
[08:39] <intelikey> no change ic56
[08:39] <YouCeyE> it shows in kmix but not able to see if it works
[08:39] <intelikey> oh  ok
[08:39] <eric> orbin, vlc still showing noise. Oh well
[08:39] <intelikey> still no change
[08:40] <ic56> daaku, intelikey: there's a lot more of this cool stuff in the bash manpage.  Look for it under the "READLINE" heading (the manpage is huge, so use your pager's search function to get to the spot).
[08:40] <YouCeyE> i am using a usb headset
[08:41] <ic56> intelikey: hmmm.  I haven't actually tried this myself :-).  Let me try it.
[08:41] <daaku> ic56: yup, been going through that and finding new things for the last few years!
[08:41] <intelikey> eeeek yes there is a change....  the function keys dont work there anymore.
[08:41] <orbin> YouCeyE: searched the forum yet?
[08:41] <YouCeyE> nope..
[08:41] <orbin> ubuntuforums.org
[08:41] <daaku> intelikey: you could try the hardcoded(?) way
[08:42] <intelikey> lets try another way.   what package sets up the key mapping ?
[08:42] <intelikey> i'll dpkg-reconfigure that dude and see what happens
[08:42] <intelikey> ?
[08:43] <eric> Problem with wireless: D-link 510 not recognized by breezy. The auto-detect was not working, so I skipped that part of the install, figuring I could set it up afterwards. I can see a 'Marvell 802.11 device in the device manager, but when I open the System:networking config program, the device does not show up; and oddly, I do not have an 'add' option
[08:44] <intelikey> basicly i have two backspace keys  the [b-s]  and the [del]   they do the same thing.     that is not normal linux behaviour
[08:45] <pierre-> !mp3
[08:45] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:45] <orbin> eric: apparently it should work ootb, but...
[08:45] <orbin> ubotu: tell eric about wireless
[08:47] <fxc065> orbin yes why not, im trying to make my kid learn c, and shell scripting soon. why the hell not prep up her schedule
[08:47] <volstersfar> How to update ubuntu breezy badger to ubuntu breezy badger 64 bit?
[08:48] <daaku> intelikey: vim ~/.inputrc, then go to the end of the file, add a new line: "[Hit Ctrl-V, then backspace] " : forward-backward-delete-char --- and then :wq, and open a new shell
[08:48] <orbin> fxc065: no offense intended.
[08:48] <hyphenated> volstersfar: I'm not sure if that's such a good idea, compared to installing the 64-bit version
[08:48] <signature16> in cups for the servername can i just put <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:48] <fxc065> orbin oh likewise! i was just saying :P
[08:49] <fxc065> signature16 thats what i placed haha
[08:49] <volstersfar> ok, is there a hard way to do?
[08:49] <signature16> fx065: and it works fine?
[08:49] <fxc065> signature16 ya for the mean time
[08:49] <fxc065> are you installing it first-hand?
[08:49] <ic56> intelikey: ok, This syntax worked: "DEL: forward-backward-delete-char"  (w/out the 2ble quotes)
[08:49] <volstersfar> I got dual xeon and have already installed 32-bit
[08:49] <orbin> fxc065: so was i :P  my chuikdhood consisted of playing restuarant w/ leaves as hamburgers.  just amazed at how dast kids are learning stuff i've only started a few years ago.
[08:50] <orbin> sp/chuikdhoodchildhood
[08:50] <orbin> s/dast/fsat
[08:50] <orbin> meh, obviously i should have paid more attention to english :P
[08:50] <hyphenated> orbin: those sed expressions really clarify things ;-)
[08:50] <fxc065> i wish i started like when i was 12ish
[08:50] <orbin> hyphenated: lol
[08:50] <fxc065> :((
[08:50] <fxc065> i feel too old
[08:51] <intelikey> testing
[08:51] <hyphenated> failed
[08:51] <ic56> intelikey: daaku's syntax might work too, though it's dependent on the top layer of the keyboard map.
[08:51] <doms> what exactly the package name of mysql should i install
[08:51] <fxc065> drapper drakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cant waaaaaaaait
[08:52] <hyphenated> doms: probably mysql-server
[08:52] <ic56> intelikey: don't forget to test by spawning a new bash.
[08:52] <hyphenated> fxc065: keep talking like that and we will think you _are_ 12ish ;-)
[08:52] <doms> mysql-server , php and
[08:52] <hyphenated> !lamp
[08:52] <intelikey> yeah don't want to test it with a reboot   hehhe :)
[08:52] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:53] <fxc065> im only 22 so its still forgive-able if theres such a word
[08:53] <fxc065> :PppppppppppPppppp
[08:53] <fxc065> boo mySQL
[08:53] <fxc065> yay Pgsql
[08:54] <hyphenated> mysql has fast selects, and basic database features. quite often, that's all people want and need
[08:54] <fxc065> yeah it's fast thats one edge over pg
[08:55] <doms> what version of mysql-server is it 4 or 5
[08:55] <hyphenated> if you don't need complex column types, or triggers or real foreign keys, then you probably shouldn't use postgres
[08:55] <daaku> doms: apt-cache search mysql-server
[08:55] <hyphenated> doms: apt-cache show foo will give you plenty of info
[08:55] <daaku> and when installing try: apt-get -V install mysql-server
[08:55] <ic56> intelikey: oops, I just realised it isn't working right for me -- it slightly modified the behavioiur of my backspace key.  Then again, I'm logged in remotely so I'm not dealing with local console.
[08:55] <doms> i hav a 4 version and 5 version in my synaptic whats the best to install
[08:56] <hyphenated> doms: it shouldn't matter that much. read the lamp thing that ubotu was telling you, and you'll get a nice working system set up
[08:56] <intelikey> ic56 nope your code didn't change a thing.   and daaku i didn't test yours because that box is off line and vi isn't installed.
[08:58] <doms> i'am pretty newbie in Apache, PHP, MySQL, i'am a second year high school student this is our project hope somebody can help me
[08:58] <doms> to clarify it well
[08:58] <intelikey> !lamp
[08:58] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:58] <hyperstream> doms, google is your friend.
[08:58] <hyperstream> also. man :)
[08:58] <ic56> intelikey: you don't need vi to test daaku's solution.  Do this:  cat >> ~/.inputrc  and then type daaku's text (without the ^v).  End with a newline and then ^D.  If you open the file in an editor, then you should be able to verify that the right characters got entered into the file.
[08:59] <biberao> hey which pdf reader is on ubuntu by default?
[08:59] <daaku> biberao: evince
[08:59] <biberao> how to start it on console?
[09:00] <daaku> type evince?
[09:00] <orbin> biberao: type evince :)
[09:00] <intelikey> ok i cat > .inputrc       and then what ?
[09:00] <doms> i hav php5 in my synaptic thats the file should i install
[09:00] <biberao> ok thanks
[09:00] <hyphenated> intelikey: nono, cat >> .inputrc
[09:00] <ic56> intelikey: dude! You only used one right angle?  You just overwrote teh file!
[09:00] <hyphenated> or just load it in an editor
[09:01] <intelikey> "[Hit Ctrl-V, then backspace] " : forward-backward-delete-char   ????
[09:01] <intelikey> ic56 there was no file.
[09:01] <intelikey> can't over write what isn't there.
[09:01] <ic56> intelikey: How could you have tested my solution without creating a file?
[09:02] <intelikey> i didn't test without creating.....   i rm'd the file that didn't help.
[09:02] <intelikey> sop new file doesn't fix it gets rm'd ....
[09:03] <biberao> ok thx
[09:03] <biberao> byebye
[09:03] <ic56> intelikey: so, for daaku's solution, you press ctl-H then colon (:), then a space, then type forward-delete.... After pressing [ENTER] , press ctl-D.