[09:24] <spiroo> anyway, that OT.
[09:25] <val0> is there a command to see if a package is available through apt-get?
[09:26] <spiroo> KDE4 is the future ;P
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> val0: apt-cache search <name>
[09:28] <val0> SlimeyPete thanks
[09:28] <SlimeyPete> it's a fuzzy search so you don't have to give the full name, just a keyword or part-name will do
[09:29] <val0> SlimeyPete awesome
[09:30] <jhend60> ok
[09:30] <jhend60> im stuffed now
[09:30] <jhend60> ive changed monitor settings
[09:30] <jhend60> in admin mode
[09:30] <jhend60> to make then 1024x1028
[09:31] <jhend60> whatever itis
[09:31] <jhend60> and now its not working in gui
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> olla peeps
[09:45] <ol_dude67> ello
[09:47] <sigma_> when i press the power button on my pc i want it to shutdown and not display logout options, how do i do this?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248478
[09:48] <ol_dude67> cant you set that in systems settings?
[09:48] <sigma_> ol_dude67 - where about in system settings?
[09:49] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, np dude
[09:49] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: um thats only for gnome, how do i do it in kde?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649582
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> sigma_, any use
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ?
[09:55] <sigma_> ActionParsnip: cool it worked, thanks. got a pc that wont have a keyboard, just for a file and print server so putting it off without that fix would have been a mission!
[09:57] <jhend60> ok i am updating my kubuntu so now my GIANT text problem should be fixed
[09:57] <jhend60> i have moved my task bar so i can see it to the top
[09:58] <jhend60> coz i have acer aspire 1640z and it is a bit buggered
[10:00] <rysiek> guys, I am missing menu icons in openOffice on gutsy (clean install+full update)
[10:00] <rysiek> can't seem to find a solution
[10:01] <rysiek> erm... scratch that. sudo aptitude install openoffice-style-default
[10:01] <jonathan_> I am having a rather tricky problem with printing pdfs on kubuntu 7.10. The driver works perfectly, but printing from kpdf or using a kdeprinter filter produces only a blank page.
[10:02] <aantipop> im unable to send files from my mobile to my desktop via bluetooth at the moment. it used to work, now they dont see each other. any idea what could be wrong ?
[10:09] <jonathan_> Can anyone help me print pdf files to an otherwise working cups?
[10:33] <till_> hi. i need any (preferable open-source) solution for web-services monitoring. it includes both http and other services monitoring. is there any "clever application" ;) that could recognize if for example only mysql is down (smth. like "mysql_connect failed" is displayed with other content) but http is on. :)
[10:36] <thomas__> till_: you could write a script easily that checks wether your servers are still running
[10:36] <emilsedgh> till_: and there is a php class for that in phpclasses.org
[10:36] <till_> thomas__: of course i could but it will take some time. i need a quick solution.
[10:37] <thomas__> till_: it's a rather quick solution
[10:37] <till_> thomas__: emilsedgh: the application i need is some kind of "artifical intelligence" :)
[10:38] <thomas__> till_: check #apache
[10:38] <emilsedgh> till_: im sure there are many things for that, but you should just find them...
[10:38] <till_> something like Nagios or Whatsup but with more clever "brain" inside
[10:38] <thomas__> till_: google will bring you salvation
[10:38] <till_> thank you :)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> woah!
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> crazy
[10:46] <ForgeAus> heeh yeah,
[10:46] <se7en> whoooo
[10:46] <ForgeAus> I never know whetehr to say "your back", or "we're back" after a netsplit :)
[10:46] <till_> welcome back ;)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> what causes that?
[10:46] <marx2k> stupid internet
[10:47] <ol_dude67> i was wondering if i had left?
[10:47] <marx2k> it's caused by one major IRC server disconnecting from another and reconnecting..along with all the users sitting on it
[10:48] <ForgeAus> yes basically when servers lack cohesion ... one may go down or may simply just lose its link to another
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> marx2k, like a redundant server stepping in as backup?
[10:49] <gladier> hmm
[10:49] <gladier> way of getting around it generates LOTS of traffic
[10:49] <gladier> insteal of bieng a star style network it needs to become a mesh
[10:50] <gladier> link between kubric and brown goes down? who cares ... they can talk through another node
[10:50] <marx2k> on certain networks like EFnet, this used to allow people to join and take over operator status of a channel
[10:50] <marx2k> "taking over on a netsplit"
[10:51] <gladier> simlar to googles links between data centres
[10:52] <gladier> actually
[10:52] <gladier> ]that would be a rather rad idea
[10:53] <gladier> google having an IRC network
[10:59] <bikerpeter> hallo
[11:00] <bikerpeter> 1 question please
[11:00] <ol_dude67> why is the grass green?
[11:00] <bikerpeter> it is impossible to install K/ubuntu on an FSC Notebook - modell Amilo Pro V2030  - any idea  what 's to do ?
[11:01] <bikerpeter> ( in winter time green grass ??? )
[11:01] <ol_dude67> you wanted 1 question so i asked...just a pun sorry
[11:02] <ol_dude67> bikerpeter, what kind of specs does this notebook have? like ram hard drive
[11:03] <bikerpeter> Sata 40 GB HDD, 512 MB RAM
[11:03] <ol_dude67> what video card?
[11:04] <bikerpeter> at the moment I try to figure out of the manual - it 's without any OS
[11:04] <ol_dude67> oh ok, well you can always try it then, if anything just use the safe graphics mode
[11:05] <Absurdo> IRC is just multiplayer notepad
[11:05] <emilsedgh> !
[11:05] <bikerpeter> it seems I have to check it in another way no info in the manual ( Knoppix DVD is part of shipment )
[11:05] <emilsedgh> Absurdo: IRC is a culture
[11:06] <bikerpeter> How can I figure out the graphic card ?
[11:06] <ol_dude67> well if it was shipped  with that then it should run kubuntu then
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, from what Ive googled it looks pretty compatible :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, run it from Live and see what works / doesnt work
[11:06] <bikerpeter> yes I started the live - so I don 't understand the probs
[11:06] <emilsedgh> bikerpeter: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, do all your devices work ok (sound, wifi (if you have it), ok display)?
[11:07] <bikerpeter> but it needed 10x longer to start - not really stable
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, you are running of cd, cd = slow
[11:07] <bikerpeter> the image was ok and sound startet - I tried also the graphics secure mode
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, do you use / have wireless and does it work ok?
[11:08] <bikerpeter> it is not the 1. notebook where I installed it - but the 1. time of probs
[11:08] <bikerpeter> the FSC has WLAN but I connected the LAN Cabel
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, looks ok to me then. If you are happy with it i'd go ahead and install but its your call
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, can you do a lspci | grep -i vga emilsedgh
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !paste | bikerpeter
[11:10] <ubotu> bikerpeter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:10] <bikerpeter> excuse - missunderstanding - I clicked INSTALL at the live CD Boot - but after 1 hour !!! it don't goes further as the 1. of 6 steps aof installation - HW RESET !!
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, stop the command at vga :)
[11:11] <bikerpeter> please explain ( pastebin - that unknown for me )
[11:12] <Tm_T> bikerpeter: you paste text there and hit the submit button
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, go to the site and paste the output of the command lspci | grep -i vga
[11:12] <Tm_T> bikerpeter: then it directs you to page that has your paste, then copy that url to us etc ;)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, you will then be given a url, paste it in here and we will see what you put
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> biker if you paste it in here it can scroll the text and confuse people
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> like me
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:13] <bikerpeter> I see the URL page - I try
[11:14] <bikerpeter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53286/
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, good one :)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, ok not so good
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, you need to run the command then pastebin the output
[11:17] <bikerpeter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53288/
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, kde menu ->system -> konsole
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, got a black box now. like a DOS window?
[11:18] <ol_dude67> you dont have to paste everything in there just the major things that take a lot of lines
[11:21] <bikerpeter> I know Terminal / Konsole
[11:22] <bikerpeter> but the Amilo is off
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, do the lspc | grep -i vga in there
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter,ok
[11:22] <bikerpeter> it need to start LIVE 30 Min !!!
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, ok man
[11:22] <bikerpeter> I will use that command - as sudo ?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, user is fine
[11:23] <bikerpeter> ok - I have to come back when it 'a "active"
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bikerpeter, see you on the other side
[11:23] <bikerpeter> thank 's for the moment
[11:25] <Gerrit> Hi, I would like to configure kubuntu to select a glyph from a different font if the glyph is missing in the current font. How would I do that?
[11:25] <Gerrit> I am using BPG Courier and would like to use Dejavu Sans Mono if a glyph is missing in BPG Courir.
[11:48] <bugs> Im having some really weird problems.. Is there a virus scanner in ubuntu?
[11:49] <bugs> My sys is freezing
[11:49] <Tm_T> bugs: not by default, nor any real viruses for it
[11:49] <Tm_T> bugs: anyway, see what "top" tells you about your system
[11:50] <bugs> I dont understand... ''What is top
[11:50] <Tm_T> it's an app
[11:50] <bugs> ok
[11:50] <Tm_T> !console | bugs
[11:50] <ubotu> bugs: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:51] <Tm_T> bugs: run top in Konsole, it will show what is eating cpu and memory if it is that
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> freezing system....install hot-babe ;)
[11:52] <ol_dude67> bugs, how much memory do you have?
[11:52] <ol_dude67> and swap?
[11:52] <bugs> 2meg
[11:52] <Tm_T> bugs: oh, yes, also run "free -m" in Konsole :)
[11:52] <ol_dude67> you mean 2 gig?
[11:52] <bugs> forget...  Default when installing
[11:53] <bugs> free 1503
[11:53] <bugs> swap 4259
[11:54] <ol_dude67> jees, and its freezing on you, you need to see which program is causing it in top
[11:54] <bugs> what causes these freezes?
[11:54] <bugs> there are 123   121 sleeping and I'm running firewall and xchat
[11:55] <till_> bugs: kde3 or kde4?
[11:55] <bugs> 3
[11:55] <ol_dude67> bugs, video card?
[11:55] <bugs> nvidea
[11:55] <till_> bugs: i recommend "htop": "top"'s compilcated analogue...
[11:56] <till_> bugs: you can see what process eats your CPU or memory
[11:56] <bugs> cool   installing htop now
[11:57] <bugs> so how do I interpret this htop
[11:58] <Tm_T> bugs: what is your cpu usage by it? that is Konsole app once again :)
[11:59] <till_> bugs: run "htop" in Konsole. then just press F6 and you will see menu on the left. select "sort by" CPU% and press enter
[12:00] <till_> bugs: then in table the first process is that "ugly eater" (probably) ;)
[12:04] <bugs> the process keeps switching from my user name to root but mostly on root\
[12:06] <Tm_T> bugs: yes, but what process that is at the top of it?
[12:07] <bugs> htop and xchat are the two top
[12:07] <Tm_T> so no, it's not that then
[12:07] <Tm_T> bugs: though, is you as user with those?
[12:08] <ol_dude67> bugs, what were you running when it froze?
[12:08] <bugs> firefox...  then xchat tring to connect here
[12:09] <Tm_T> bugs: might like to add "runaway process catcher applet" to kicker ;)
[12:10] <bugs> is 153 processes a high number to be on a sys
[12:10] <ol_dude67> i have 216 running now
[12:11] <Tm_T> bugs: depends ;)
[12:11] <bugs> ok...
[12:11] <thoreauputic> bugs: not usually
[12:11] <bugs> thx for the help guys.. going back to work
[12:12] <thoreauputic> bugs: I'm just doing IRC , browser and a terminal or two and I have 172 currently
[12:12] <thoreauputic> although some of that is actually threads...
[12:12] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: heh, in my high use I have ~130 processes, and you can bet I do a whole lot more than you can without insane efforts
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Tm_T: I am just quoting what gkrellm is showing -a I said, some of that is threads rather than actual processes
[12:14] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: same here
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Tm_T: when I run without X I have a rather small number most of the time :)
[12:14] <Archon> is 'Samba' in KControl > Internet & Network > Samba for samba _server_ or do i need it also for using an Active Directory server (a windows one)?
[12:15] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: KDE 3 & 4 running (and often some compilation) with apps etc
[12:15] <thoreauputic> Tm_T: are you running apache, knockd, sshd, etc. etc. ?
[12:15] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: ssh sshfs etc, no apache
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Tm_T: :)
[12:17] <Whitman> I've created some icons on a desktop with kiosktool but when I try to save the changes I get an "Error in KioskTool ubuntu modifications" error.  Any idea why?
[12:24] <stefan__> hello all
[12:24] <stefan__> I have to connect to exchange 2003 :(
[12:25] <stefan__> I tired evolution, but tghis is not working. my favorite one is kontact.
[12:25] <stefan__> which client can I use to connect to exchange
[12:25] <stefan__> can someone help?
[12:27] <DaveDorm> stefan__: is there an extension that makes Thunderbird speak to an Exchange server?
[12:29] <cef> stefan__: if the exchange server does POP3 or IMAP, then you're set.. even then, you won't get full Outlook-like functionality unless you use a 3rd party product to do it.
[12:30] <cef> stefan__: so you'll get email send/receive but you won't get calendar/todo/etc integration.
[12:31] <o-dog> hello again
[12:32] <o-dog> does anyone know why my kde sets the resolution to 640*480 without prompting it? this is the second time it does it on startup
[12:38] <ForgeAus> o-dog good question I'm not sure how linux determines resolution generally theres a list of them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:38] <ForgeAus> but how it chooses which particular one...
[12:38] <o-dog> but it doesn't let me set it higher than it
[12:38] <o-dog> restarted with re-configured screen and graphic card re-selected
[12:41] <babeck> I was wondering if anyone knew how to connect to their myspqce im account through pidgin?
[12:42] <DaveDorm> yep
[12:43] <DaveDorm> babeck: in newer versions of Pidgin, MySpaceIM is included
[12:43] <DaveDorm> babeck: at least it works for me.... :)
[12:47] <babeck> DaveDorm: I keep getting an invalid password error.
[12:47] <o-dog> ahh thanks ForgeAus
[12:48] <o-dog> it's somehow locked my screen not to show resolutions over 640*480 :D
[12:50] <ol_dude67> babeck, mine worked as well
[12:51] <DaveDorm> babeck: you need to use the same email/pw combo you use for MySpace... question, have you ever used the Windows MySpace IM service? I had to connect once with the Windows client before Pidgin would work... but that was just me
[12:51] <DaveDorm> babeck: I don't think Pidgin is "smart enough" to initialize the MySpace IM service
[12:52] <hellmaster> hi everyone
[12:53] <hellmaster> i have a question if i want fusion-icon to load at startup what was the file that i have to edit?
[12:54] <babeck> oh, you use the email address for the login?  I thought you used the username after the www.myspace.com
[12:54] <DaveDorm> babeck: ayup... :) just like you log in to MySpace
[12:55] <DaveDorm> hellmaster: you can edit the various rc.d files... I do not know of a GUIway to do it
[12:56] <DaveDorm> hellmaster: wish i did... :) I need my IRC bot to load as a service so I can play poker with my friends
[12:56] <hellmaster> i know for sure that there is an autload file or something like that
[12:56] <hellmaster> thats how i put many things to work at boot
[12:56] <hellmaster> hmm
[12:56] <DaveDorm> hellmaster: hmm... yeah maybe searchinf in Adept or Synaptic
[12:56] <hellmaster> no, its not a program
[12:56] <hellmaster> it like a config file or something
[12:56] <hellmaster> actually .d
[12:57] <Pici> !boot | hellmaster
[12:57] <ubotu> hellmaster: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:57] <hellmaster> i already use it when i was using ndiswrapper
[12:58] <ol_dude67> hellmaster, is it module.d?
[12:58] <hellmaster> hmm maybe
[12:58] <Pici> !startup | hellmaster oops, reread your question
[12:58] <ubotu> hellmaster oops, reread your question: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[12:58] <hellmaster> is just that i dont remember the name of the file
[13:01] <babeck> DaveDorm: Thanks, works perfectly.
[13:04] <ForgeAus> when you announciate kubuntu is it meant to sound like cub-un-too or koo-bunt-oo ?
[13:05] <ForgeAus> (or even Q-buntu)
[13:05] <hellmaster> hmmm i cant find the option for saving session on the K menu
[13:05] <hellmaster> !starup
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about starup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:06] <hellmaster> !startup
[13:06] <ubotu> To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[13:13]  * DaveDorm sighs
[13:13] <DaveDorm> this is tedious... removing crap from my install that I don't use
[13:14] <DaveDorm> Adept is slow
[13:14] <ol_dude67> better to go slow, and not remove something that you shouldnt.
[13:17] <DaveDorm> ol_dude67: I agree, but it just takes so long to do, for some reason... I click a checkbox, go get coffee... I mean dog slow
[13:18] <DaveDorm> ol_dude67: I am taking out stuff like KMail, etc, that I simply never use
[13:18] <DaveDorm> Bluetooth... I mean I don't even have it on this machine
[13:18] <ol_dude67> DaveDorm, wow that is a little on the slow side.
[13:21] <DaveDorm> ol_dude67: yeah, it's an older machine... I have an Edsel... a new PC is in my future, tho... :)
[13:21] <DaveDorm> gonna put this one to work for the kids
[13:21] <hellmaster> !symlink
[13:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:21] <hellmaster> !boot
[13:21] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[13:22] <ol_dude67> DaveDorm, ya i have one of those myself its now being used as my router.
[13:22] <jpatrick> !botabuse > hellmaster
[13:23] <ol_dude67> now i didnt see him hit that bot once.:D
[13:23] <hellmaster> why am i abusing the bot??
[13:23] <jussi01> !nickspam > sylvain-fr_ET
[13:23] <hellmaster> for asking something i have doubt?
[13:23] <DaveDorm> ol_dude67: in fact, this one does not really have a good video card... can't run any of the eye candy in KDE4...
[13:24] <jpatrick> hellmaster: because you can explore it with /msg ubotu !thing
[13:24] <hellmaster> thats better thanks
[13:24] <jpatrick> hellmaster: no problem :)
[13:24] <ol_dude67> DaveDorm, mine is a year old and has onboard video from intel and it handled kde4 pretty good till it crashed and then i deleted it.
[13:25] <DaveDorm> ah...
[13:25] <ol_dude67> maybe when they get it so its not so buggy i might go back to it,but for right now i will stick to kde3
[13:26] <DaveDorm> know what I want? Remember "Jurassic Park?" I want a file manager like that... the geekgirl sits down... "This is UNIX. I KNOW this!" -- I NEVER saw UNIX like that before! lol
[13:26] <DaveDorm> all that 3D browsing... sweet
[13:27] <ol_dude67> well i have a feeling that before long its going to go really fast and then everyone will be saying how did you do that before.
[13:28] <DaveDorm> oh, goodie, Kopete crashed again! right on schedule...
[13:29] <DaveDorm> Ghod, I hate Kopete. Like a white hot, burning poker in the eye kind of hate... the developers of Kopete should die in a fire
[13:29] <ol_dude67> i dont know i use pidgin
[13:30] <noaXess> is it real that kde 4 can be installed parallel to kde 3?
[13:30] <DaveDorm> I usually do, but pidgin is acting wonky in KDE4
[13:30] <ol_dude67> yes
[13:30] <bazhang> yesh
[13:30] <ol_dude67> oh i didnt try it on kde4 but i didnt use it but maybe 10 minutes when i did have it installed.
[13:30] <DaveDorm> noaXess: yeppers.... doing it right now... I am on Day 2 of the standoffwith KDE4... we're kind of at love/hate
[13:31] <DaveDorm> yeah... http://davedorm.com/temp/dorm2.jpg
[13:31] <noaXess> DaveDorm: and u use the instruction on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php?
[13:31] <DaveDorm> beholf the wonkiness
[13:31] <DaveDorm> noaXess: yep... exactamundo... worked great
[13:31] <noaXess> DaveDorm: wow :)
[13:31] <ol_dude67> about the only thing it works great at.
[13:31] <noaXess> okay..
[13:32] <DaveDorm> noaXess: yeah man... all you do is select "KDE4" when logging in
[13:32] <noaXess> DaveDorm: okay. :)
[13:32] <DaveDorm> noaXess: just like if you install OpenBox, Enlightenment, etc
[13:32] <DaveDorm> Linux is all about choice!
[13:32] <noaXess> DaveDorm: you mean any other window manager.. fluxbox or wath ever..
[13:33] <DaveDorm> noaXess: yes, that is right
[13:34] <ForgeAus> hehe I got all of them
[13:34] <ForgeAus> except kde4
[13:34] <ForgeAus> and WindowMaker/Gnustep and Amiwm and a few other odd ones
[13:34] <ForgeAus> oh yeah Oborox
[13:35] <DaveDorm> I wanna try e17
[13:35] <DaveDorm> I had e14 ages ago but became a KDE Whore
[13:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[13:35] <ForgeAus> I tried e14
[13:35] <DaveDorm> I never liked Gnome.
[13:36] <ForgeAus> same KDE can be very windows-like in some ways
[13:36] <DaveDorm> In fact, Gnome kept me away from some of the other distros.
[13:36] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[13:36] <DaveDorm> yo sebastian^, what's shaking?
[13:36] <jussi01> !ot
[13:36] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:37] <noaXess> DaveDorm: what about alle the kde3 apps? will they run under kde4 or will they be updated?
[13:37] <sebastian^> DaveDorm: nothing special, just wake up at 2:37 pm :-/
[13:37] <DaveDorm> oh WHAT? jussi01, I mean we were talking KDE which is an integral part of Kubuntu
[13:37] <DaveDorm> jeez
[13:38] <DaveDorm> or was it my hello to sebastian^ that tripped the !ot ?
[13:38] <jussi01> DaveDorm: The topic is Kubuntu support, not Kubuntu chat/opinions. Thanks.
[13:38] <ForgeAus> hehe I think it was the other window manager talk
[13:38] <ForgeAus> jussi seems a little strict on the ot thing...
[13:39] <DaveDorm> I swear to ghod, if this wasn't the only game in town...
[13:39] <DaveDorm> whatever, guys, you win
[13:39] <ForgeAus> I mean afterall the C in IRC does stand for Chat doesn't it?
[13:39] <DaveDorm> it's not just him
[13:39] <bazhang> best not to argue
[13:40] <DaveDorm> can I argie in *offtopic? Or will I get kicked there, too?
[13:40] <squid0> DaveDorm: if there were no rules, it would be chaos
[13:40] <ForgeAus> squid I think your making an assumption there
[13:41] <bazhang> of course you can chat away in offtopic; when an op says no though, best to just let it lie
[13:41] <ForgeAus> but I can't explain, it would be offtopic to do so :)
[13:41] <squid0> ok, whatever
[13:41] <noaXess> DaveDorm: if i add the deb into my repos.. than need i make a full upgrade?
[13:42] <DaveDorm> noaXess: I guess you could, but all I did was apt-get the core for KDE4 as in the instructions
[13:43] <sebastian^> no problems with kde4 DaveDorm?
[13:43] <DaveDorm> noaXess: I have not done a dist-upgrade since adding
[13:43] <noaXess> DaveDorm: that i mean..
[13:43] <DaveDorm> sebastian^: I didn't say no problems... :) you missed my big complaint
[13:43] <noaXess> i think its only kde3 updates..
[13:43] <ForgeAus> Dave what dist have you got?
[13:43] <ForgeAus> gusty? feisty? edgy?
[13:44] <ForgeAus> grr gutsy
[13:44] <DaveDorm> sebastian^: yeah... http://davedorm.com/temp/dorm2.jpg
[13:44] <sebastian^> no i don't missed anything, i only saw this sentence but i hadn't time right now to install kde4 ;)
[13:44] <DaveDorm> sebastian^: problems with KDE4 & Pidgin
[13:44] <DaveDorm> ForgeAus: gutsy
[13:44] <sebastian^> DaveDorm: ah ok
[13:44] <ForgeAus> well pigdin is based on Gnome's GTK that could be part of your problem
[13:45] <noaXess> oky.. for all.. if i add the repos from http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php.. need i firt make dist-upgrade.. and then install kde4-core?
[13:45] <jussi01> !nickspam > nfma
[13:45] <ol_dude67> well slackware has no gnome as default, but yet i can run pidgin on it just fine and do
[13:46] <ForgeAus> ol_dude, ok... maybe its some other problem then??? I don't know...
[13:46] <noaXess> !ppa
[13:46] <ubotu> With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[13:46] <DaveDorm> ForgeAus: just for grins, I went to #pidgin and asked them, they said it was the way KDE4 is choosing and rendering the pixmaps
[13:47] <ForgeAus> and Kubuntu by default does have a GTK anyway (possibly GTK+ or something)
[13:47] <ol_dude67> ForgeAus, i dont know either i was just stating that.
[13:47] <nfma> sorry my mistake, didn;t want to spam anyone
[13:47] <ForgeAus> yup Davedorm seems to make sense
[13:48] <ForgeAus> can't say as I like the black taskbar :( KDE4 seems to have tried a little too hard to look like Vista :(
[13:48] <ForgeAus> in some ways
[13:48] <jussi01> Could we take the kde4 discussion to #kubuntu-kde4 Thanks.
[13:49] <noaXess> jussi01: yeah shure :)
[13:49] <jussi01> :)
[13:49] <ForgeAus> or #ubuntu+1 ??
[13:49] <ForgeAus> (whichever is more populated I guess)
[13:49] <jussi01> ForgeAus: only if its hardy discussion
[13:50] <ForgeAus> isn't KDE4 the default for kubuntu in hardy?
[13:51] <ForgeAus> (or at least slated to be)
[13:51] <ForgeAus> wb squid
[13:52] <hellmaster_> does creating a symlink work for emeral and fusion-icon?
[13:52] <hellmaster_> i want to load compiz, emerald and fusion-icon when i load my KDE session
[13:52] <hellmaster_> cant seem to find how to do it exactly
[13:53] <ForgeAus> um if theres an entry you can put in /etc/init.d you could do it on startup as a service... but otherwise you'd have to find the start script... I don't personally know which one...
[13:54] <jussi01> hellmaster_: #compiz-fusion  may have more answers for you
[13:54] <ForgeAus> jussi, its not really a compiz issue as much as it is a linux OS issue
[13:54] <ForgeAus> perhaps #linux?
[13:55] <ForgeAus> actually come to think of it the #KDE people should know
[13:55] <hellmaster_> im worinking on ubuntu 7.10 using kde, in other words kubuntu
[13:55] <ForgeAus> compiz just happens to be the app involved tahts all
[13:55] <hellmaster_> but ok...
[13:56] <ForgeAus> hell this is the right place, but we don't seem to have anyone here who knows the answer...
[13:56] <ForgeAus> so those are other suggestions where you might find someone who does know
[13:56] <noaXess> hellmaster_: you want run any app on loging into kde/kubuntu?
[13:57] <ForgeAus> noaXess that seems like the gist of it yeah
 i want to load compiz, emerald and fusion-icon when i load my KDE session
[13:58] <noaXess> hellmaster_: use the autostart dir in ~/.kde
[13:58] <noaXess> ForgeAus: i see.
[13:58] <noaXess> ok.. back soon..
[13:59] <onishidato> error15: file not found. this is what i got when trying to log in Kubuntu
[13:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Folks :-)
[13:59] <onishidato> error15: file not found. this is what i got when trying to log in Kubuntu
[13:59] <onishidato> can someone help me
[13:59] <onishidato> ::
[13:59] <Lynoure> onishidato: at much earlier point than in login screen? sounds like grub error
[13:59] <onishidato> Lynoure
[13:59] <onishidato> Lynoure: yes
[14:00] <onishidato> earlier point
[14:00] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I had that problem yesterday
[14:00] <onishidato> Lynoure: how can i fix it?
[14:00] <onishidato> DaveDorm: how can i fix it?
[14:00] <Lynoure> onishidato: if DaveDorm had it yesterday, he probably can help better
[14:00] <DaveDorm> onishidato: it's grub, something ate one of my boot files, I had to rebuild it
[14:00] <DaveDorm> onishidato: lemme look for the command I ran, stand by
[14:01] <onishidato> DaveDorm: thanks
[14:01] <Lynoure> Might be even the same cause.
[14:01] <onishidato> Lynoure: the system say: error 15..... Press anykey to continue
[14:01] <BluesKaj> onishidato, comment out the hiddenmenu line with #, in your /boot/grub/menu.lst  for starters
[14:02] <onishidato> BluesKaj: can you tell me more?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> onishidato, can you access your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[14:03] <onishidato> BluesKaj: how can i do so?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> onishidato, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:03] <mindif_> holy shit
[14:03] <BluesKaj> in the run command box , not the cli
[14:03] <mindif_> http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200801241349501280x1024hd4.png i never happend to see something this ugly
[14:03] <jussi01> !language | mindif_
[14:03] <ubotu> mindif_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:04] <mindif_> OK
[14:04] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I had to run " update-initramfs -u " as root to rebuild the init file for the kernel
[14:04] <DaveDorm> onishidato: something ate it, I guess
[14:04] <DaveDorm> onishidato: once I ran that and rebooted it was fine
[14:05] <onishidato> DaveDorm: ??
[14:05] <onishidato> DaveDorm: how can i run that command?
[14:06] <onishidato> BluesKaj: i can get into it
[14:06] <DaveDorm> onishidato: do you only have 1 kernel?
[14:06] <ForgeAus> is there a free CDE?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> DaveDorm, ' sudo update-initramfs -u '  ?
[14:07] <DaveDorm> onishidato: if so, use a livecd
[14:07] <onishidato> i have 2 kernel
[14:07] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: yes, sudo
[14:07] <DaveDorm> onishidato: try booting into the older kernel, that's what I had to do
[14:08] <BluesKaj> what if he's dual booting, which i suspect ?
[14:08] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: but I logged in as root, I am old-fashioned
[14:08] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: still oughta work if he has an older kernel to fall back on
[14:08] <onishidato> i'm using the older to  get support
[14:08] <DaveDorm> onishidato: aye, that's what I did... Googled the error
[14:09] <onishidato> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic this is what i got
[14:10] <onishidato> DaveDorm: so now, let me reboot and see if it's work
[14:10] <BluesKaj> DaveDorm, so editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst isn't necessary ? ...I had the same error and it was the timer and hiddenmenu lines that needed to be coomented out for grubmenu to show
[14:10] <BluesKaj> err commented rather
[14:11] <onishidato> DaveDorm, BluesKaj thanks 1st
[14:11] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: dunno, I only know what worked for me. I looked in the /boot menu and that kernel was missing its corresponding init* file..... so I rebuilt it... his problem may not be the same
[14:11] <BluesKaj> thank us when it works, onishidato :)
[14:12] <BluesKaj> right
[14:12] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: rather the /boot directory, not menu
[14:12] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: he could be missing the whole vmliniz* or other thing entirely
[14:12] <BluesKaj> interesting DaveDorm , gonna add that command to my fix list if it works for him
[14:13] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: yeah, my guru found it...  HE'S BETTER... lol
[14:14] <DaveDorm> he's back!
[14:14] <DaveDorm> onishidato: good news?
[14:14] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i think i doesn't work
[14:14] <onishidato> it doesn't work
[14:14] <onishidato> :(
[14:14] <DaveDorm> onishidato: ok, go to a shell and cd to the /boot directory
[14:15] <onishidato> DaveDorm: still error 15: file not found
[14:15] <DaveDorm> look at each of the kernel entries... like 2.6.22-14 should be the latest
[14:15] <onishidato> press anykey to continue
[14:15] <onishidato> DaveDorm: can you tell me more?
[14:16] <DaveDorm> onishidato: trying to... :) go look in /boot for your kernel
[14:16] <DaveDorm> onishidato: should have a few files for each kernel
[14:17] <ol_dude67> anyone running hardy?
[14:17] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i'm sorry, can you tell me exactly how to do?? cause i don't know:(
[14:18] <onishidato> DaveDorm: cd /boot
[14:18] <onishidato> DaveDorm: and what can i do next?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> then ls
[14:18] <DaveDorm> onishidato: abi-2.6.xx, config-2.6.xx , System.map-2.6.xx, initrd.img-2.6.xx and vmlinuz-2.6.xx ALL have to be there
[14:19] <BluesKaj> DaveDorm, don't forget the ls command
[14:19] <DaveDorm> onishidato: all five for your kernel... if one is missing or corrupt you're fubar
[14:19] <DaveDorm> onishidato: if you have more than one kernel, the'll be 5 for each one
[14:19] <BluesKaj> just cd /boot just puts you in the directory , but doesn't list any kernels
[14:20] <onishidato>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53313/ this is what i got, i have 2 kubuntu
[14:20] <onishidato> and the grub is blue
[14:21] <DaveDorm> onishidato: blue means it's a directory
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !hardy | ol_dude67
[14:21] <ubotu> ol_dude67: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:21] <onishidato> DaveDorm: so... am i miss something?
[14:22] <DaveDorm> well...
[14:22] <DaveDorm> onishidato: the files are all there, but one may be corrupt
[14:22] <onishidato> DaveDorm: so..... how can i fix now?
[14:22] <DaveDorm> onishidato: you could always remove the kernel package for 2.6.22-14 and reinstall
[14:23] <DaveDorm> onishidato: but not sure how to do that off hand
[14:23] <sigma_1234> so wil the next alpha cd of kubuntu have two cds? one for kde3 an one for kde4?
[14:23] <DaveDorm> onishidato: and you caught me feeding my baby.... lol
[14:23] <LogicalDash> "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." What might cause this message?
[14:23] <onishidato> DaveDorm: oh sorry
[14:23] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, i know its the new one i was just asking if anyone was running it to see if it had and major bugs
[14:24] <onishidato> BluesKaj: can you help me?
[14:24] <DaveDorm> onishidato: not your fault, I should pay attention to him andnot geekfest... you can use apt to remove the kernel packages and then get them again to reinstall
[14:25] <flocs> hola buenas alguien save el servidor terra de españa ?¿?¿¿?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> ol_dude67, I tried the 64 bit for a few days but it din't do much for me :( ...of course i use low end graphics etc so maybe it was abit too much for my setup
[14:25] <flocs> hola buenas alguien save el servidor terra de españa ?¿?¿¿?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> !es | flocs
[14:25] <ubotu> flocs: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:26] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, i havent got a 64bit system so i was just going to try and run it in vmware to see how it was before upgrading to it.
[14:26] <onishidato> DaveDorm: that's it.... i have this problems after i try to install the KDE
[14:26] <DaveDorm> onishidato: KDE4?
[14:26] <DaveDorm> onishidato: because that is what happened to ME... lol
[14:27] <flocs> eii
[14:27] <frojnd> how can I get info about, what version is package, before I install it ?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> ol_dude67, well that's somewhat adventurous IMO , but if you can put up with vmware then go for it :)
[14:27] <onishidato> DaveDorm: no. when i play with the apt, i see the kde package. so i try to download and install it
[14:27] <DaveDorm> onishidato: ok
[14:28] <DaveDorm> onishidato: you can run "sudo aptitude" from a commandline and look for the kernel package and uninstall, then reboot and reinstall
[14:28] <onishidato> DaveDorm: but i have quit download in the middle
[14:28] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, been running vmware-server now for a month or so, and i have gotten it set pretty good as it seems to work fine for me, i run xp and slackware with it. and havent had a problem yet.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ol_dude67, that's cool then , are you gonna overwrite slack with kubuntu ?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> or sisde by each as the saying goes :)
[14:30] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, oh no i would overwrite xp before i would slack.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:30] <onishidato> DaveDorm: :((
[14:30] <onishidato> DaveDorm: can i do with the old kernel?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ol_dude67, is 67your age, or your birth yr ? ..cuz I'm a pretty old 'dude' myself :)
[14:31] <DaveDorm> onishidato: yeah, sure
[14:32] <BluesKaj> not many guys in their 60s hang out here , except me
[14:32] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, it is my birth year i will be 41 this year.
[14:32] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: prolly year, I am also davedorm67 elsewhere, will be 41 this year
[14:32] <BluesKaj> aha, my sons age
[14:32] <DaveDorm> BluesKaj: wow, cool... ;) a real old timer
[14:33] <BluesKaj> yup 64
[14:33] <onishidato> DaveDorm: they show me many options
[14:33] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, well that is cool, i have a mom inlaw that age and i just set her up a computer a few months back and now that she has been on it for a while i think she is addicted to it.lol
[14:34] <onishidato> DaveDorm: which one should i choose?
[14:34] <onishidato> DaveDorm: :(
[14:34] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I am not sure what you are seeing...
[14:34] <BrightEyes`> i just installed linphone from the repositories and it makes my system slow.it has a window for video and i want to desable it..anyone who has linphone and works perfectly?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ol_dude67, very cool , older folks are discovering the benefits of the internet, and i think it's just great
[14:35] <DaveDorm> onishidato: the kernel you have should be 2.6.22-14
[14:35] <juanito> alguin español por aqui??
[14:35] <Lynoure> !es | juanito
[14:35] <ubotu> juanito: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:36] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, well we have no long distance on our phone so that is how we keep in contact with her as she lives about a 100 miles away from us.
[14:36] <BluesKaj> <--- been a techie all my life, so computers are just a natural extension of my curiosity and interests
[14:36] <ol_dude67> but enough of the offtopic.lol
[14:36] <BluesKaj> yup agreed
[14:36] <BluesKaj> well, BBl, gotta run some errands
[14:37] <BrightEyes`> i get this message:  configure: error: Could not find ffmpeg headers and library. This is mandatory for video support
[14:37] <BrightEyes`> configure: error: ./configure failed for mediastreamer2
[14:37] <BrightEyes`> what can i do?
[14:37] <ol_dude67> BluesKaj, later
[14:37] <onishidato> DaveDorm: these option is: security updates, upgradeable packages, installed packages, not install packages, virtual packages, task, obsolette and locally Create packages
[14:38] <BluesKaj> BrightEyes`, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:38] <BluesKaj> later
[14:38] <onishidato> DaveDorm: can you guess which one?
[14:38] <ol_dude67> BrightEyes`, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:39] <DaveDorm> onishidato: installed
[14:39] <BrightEyes`> BluesKaj: libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[14:39] <BrightEyes`> that what it says
[14:39] <DaveDorm> onishidato: we're gonna uninstall the kernel packages, and re-install them
[14:43] <DaveDorm> oops
[14:43] <DaveDorm> TYPO TYPO PLEASE DO NOT KICK
[14:44] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i think i haven't install it, i have just download it but not yet isntall
[14:45] <DaveDorm> onishidato: ok, well, your /boot that you pasted says you did
[14:45] <DaveDorm> onishidato: baby fed... can dedicate ablock of time to you now
[14:45] <DaveDorm> :)
[14:46] <DaveDorm> onishidato: so in aptitude... do a "Search" for linux-image
[14:46] <DaveDorm> onishidato: in installed packages you should see 2.6.22-14
[14:47] <onishidato> DaveDorm: ok ok
[14:47] <onishidato> DaveDorm: let me see
[14:47] <estanis> kubuntu spanish please?
[14:49] <jussi01> !es | estanis
[14:49] <ubotu> estanis: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:49] <DaveDorm> onishidato: actually, just "linux-image" should work, thats the meta-package
[14:50] <onishidato> DaveDorm: can i use the live cd to do this?
[14:51] <DaveDorm> onishidato: you can do it from the older kernel
[14:51] <DaveDorm> onishidato: and you can probably do it in Adept if you are more comfortable in KDE
[14:52] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i see the meta packages
[14:52] <DaveDorm> onishidato: look for "linux-image"
[14:52] <turino> hola
[14:52] <jussi01> !es | turino
[14:52] <ubotu> turino: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:53] <DaveDorm> onishidato: hmm... no, Adept won't show the kernel packages
[14:54] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i don't see it
[14:55] <DaveDorm> onishidato: you using Adept?
[14:56] <onishidato> DaveDorm: aptitude as you advise
[14:56] <DaveDorm> ok
[14:56] <DaveDorm> good
[14:56] <DaveDorm> go to SEARCH up top and put in "linux-image"
[14:58] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i found this: Linux kernel imagefor version 2.6.22 on i386
[14:59] <DaveDorm> yeah
[14:59] <DaveDorm> uninstall it
[14:59] <DaveDorm> and then we'll re-install it
[15:01] <onishidato> DaveDorm: wow, i think i haven't install it, that's correct
[15:02] <onishidato> DaveDorm: wow, i haven't installed it
[15:03] <onishidato> DaveDorm: where are you???
[15:04] <onishidato> can someone tell me: i have 2 Kubuntu diferent from i have 2 kernel???
[15:05] <typoe> like in boot menu?
[15:05] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I have kids here, man, sometimes I lose focus...
[15:05] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I have 4 kernels, I never got around to deleting
[15:05] <DaveDorm> onishidato: go ahead and install the latest linux-image
[15:06] <typoe> shouldnt hurt anything unless you are low on disk space or something
[15:06] <DaveDorm> onishidato: it'll update and should fix all 5 of your files in /boot and update GRUB and let you boot
[15:07] <onishidato> DaveDorm: hope it works
[15:07] <onishidato> DaveDorm: i'm downloading......
[15:07] <onishidato> :(
[15:08] <onishidato> so, there is the different between 2 kernel and 2 kubuntu?
[15:09] <DaveDorm> onishidato: the kernel is just newer is all...
[15:09] <onishidato> DaveDorm: ok
[15:09] <genii> Well, also there are Debian specific kernel patches etc but nothing major
[15:23] <onishidato> DaveDorm: hey, by the way. i use 2 HDD for 2 kernel, is it possible to fix like that?
[15:23] <DaveDorm> onishidato: I dunno
[15:24] <mbailey> Can I move the konversation settings from my old system to this one?
[15:26] <basy_> Is here any KDevelop guru?, I have "formatting" code troubles, opening brackets will always jump on new line, i don't like that...
[15:27] <genii> mbailey: Maybe try copying over ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc
[15:27] <genii> basy_: Perhaps enquire also in #kubuntu-devel   or a channel for Kdevelop specifically
[15:28] <basy_> genii thanks
[15:28] <genii> basy_: You're welcome
[15:28] <mbailey> genii:  is there any other place the channel/identity informaiton would be stored?  it's either that, or I moved the wrong way.  (from new system to old)
[15:29] <genii> mbailey: ~/.kde/share/app/konversation  might also hold some info
[15:30] <genii> mbailey: But as for where specifically it's channel settings, etc are stored, I don't offhand know
[15:30] <mbailey> genii:  thanks, it's as I feared.  datestamp on konversationrc doesn't match the others in that folder.  I dragged, and dropped in the wrong direction.
[15:45] <llutz_> hi, onboard-soundcard intel-hda with ALC883 codec, module snd-hda-intel loaded with model=auto or model=3stack. Sound works so far, but controlling it by hotkeys (XF86AudioRaise/LowerVolume) won't.OSD jumps between 0 and 11%, but no effect. any ideas?
[15:46] <llutz_> same hotkeys work fine ootb with pci-soundcard
[15:46] <BluesKaj> llutz_, my compaq does the same .. the degree of ctrl is very coarse
[15:47] <llutz_> there's no ctrl at all
[15:48] <llutz_> XF86AudioMute works, all mixer-actions in kmix too
[15:54] <BluesKaj> llutz_, in alsa the ctrl jumps about 5% per click on the up/down arrow keys
[16:01] <cprmpt> When I change the resolution, it asks me if I want to keep the settings but the resolution just doesnt change
[16:01] <cprmpt> its stuck on 1280x1024
[16:01] <cprmpt> I want 800x600
[16:01] <cprmpt> Why is this happening?
[16:01] <jussi01> !fixres
[16:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:01] <Sbucatkde4> !kde4
[16:01] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:02] <cprmpt> no, Im not installing KDE4
[16:06] <llutz_> BluesKaj: not here. i have 2 hotkeys for lower/raise volume, when hitting, the kde-OSD jumps between 0% adn 11% but no mixersetting is affected by it.
[16:07] <BluesKaj> llutz, doesn't affect the master ?
[16:07] <llutz> nope
[16:07] <llutz> no affect at all
[16:07] <BluesKaj> llutz , no vol ctrls on the KB ?
[16:08] <llutz> nope, only direct in alsamixer or kmix
[16:08] <llutz> and that's not what i'm used to and not what i want
[16:09] <llutz> so now my good old cb16-pci works again, onboard disabled and all works fine.
[16:09] <awag> anyone else have problems with kde freezing?
[16:09] <llutz> not me
[16:10] <awag> my kubuntu 7.10 randomly freezes, so that nothing responds, i thought it was compiz's fault
[16:10] <BluesKaj> awag, kde or apps in kde ?
[16:10] <Agent_bob> !hotkeys | llutz did this page help ?
[16:10] <ubotu> llutz did this page help ?: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[16:10] <awag> but it happens even with just plain kwin
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Agent_bob, llutz is gone
[16:11] <llutz> Agent_bob: nope, my mediakeys are working, they give the right symbols back. just with snd-hda-intel they aren't used by alsa
[16:11] <llutz> BluesKaj: just my alter-ego
[16:11] <BluesKaj> aahh
[16:12] <awag> BluesKaj: what do you mean exactly? i'm running kde 3.5.8
[16:12] <sigma_1234> whats the best usb wireless dongle to use with kubuntu?
[16:13] <Agent_bob> "wireless dongle"  ???
[16:13] <BluesKaj> awag, I'm trying to figure out what you mean by kde freezing , apps don't respond ?
[16:14] <Agent_bob> !hardware | sigma_1234
[16:14] <ubotu> sigma_1234: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> llutz: thats a common bug
[16:14] <awag> BluesKaj: i'll just be using a normal application, firefox, opera, amarok, dolphin, and all of a sudden, my mouse stops responding, i can't ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+backspace, and i can't even reboot with sysreq+RSEIUB
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> llutz: sometimes it can be fixed if you manually set the hot key in kmix
[16:14] <llutz> nosrednaekim: nice to know :(
[16:15] <llutz> nosrednaekim: yeah i did that, but it's .... not what i want :)
[16:15] <awag> BluesKaj: i thought maybe it was a heat problem, but it's not happening in gnome :(
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> llutz: oh... ok but that does ork?
[16:16] <llutz> in parts. it controls sound but without OSD and without keys-autorepeat
[16:16] <BluesKaj> awag, perhaps kde requires more cpu power than gnome
[16:16] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: whats the problem with kmix?
[16:16] <Agent_bob> awag oh hard freeze    yuch!
[16:17] <awag> Agent_bob: yes, yuch
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: nothing...
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> llutz: oh... right... well, I could live with that so I didn't really go any further
[16:18] <llutz> nosrednaekim: sure it would work. but i prefer a 100% solution and so i use my pci-soundcard again with all wanted features :)
[16:18] <Agent_bob> awag i don't have a lot of hardware to play with,  but i have only seen that on 64bit install     are you running the 64bit ?
[16:19] <Taggnostr> is there a way in dolphin to see the file type among the column in the details view? I only have name/size/date and I can't find a way to add more columns
[16:19] <awag> Agent_bob: nope :( this is a pentium 4
[16:19] <awag> Agent_bob: also, funny thing, I had an athlon xp 2400+ in this machine, using the same kubuntu 7.10 install
[16:20] <awag> Agent_bob: and then the motherboard died
[16:20] <Agent_bob> awag oh my.   it sounds like you need another computer.
[16:21] <awag> Agent_bob: and i stuck a pentium 4 and a new motherboard in that i had laying around, however the problem i'm having, had been happening since before i replaced the mobo and cpu
[16:21] <awag> Agent_bob: yes, i do need a new computer
[16:22] <awag> was that an offer to send me a new computer?
[16:22]  * Agent_bob didn't say "new"
[16:22]  * awag goes to get a new set of eyes
[16:23] <awag> :)
[16:23] <PNFA> Buenos dias
 awag oh my.   it sounds like you need another computer. <<< another != new
[16:23] <bazhang> !es
[16:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:23] <awag> yeah i see that now
[16:24] <PNFA> Alguien que hable español
[16:24] <bazhang> #kubuntu-es
[16:24] <Agent_bob> !es
[16:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:26] <jessie> hey guys
[16:26] <awag> this is so frustrating, it's like everything is working perfectly, and then out of the blue it freezes
[16:26] <awag> no warning at all
[16:26] <awag> hi
[16:27] <sigma_1234> awag: that sounds like a hardware failure
[16:27] <Agent_bob> awag that sounds kinda like a loose connection on a cable
[16:27] <sylvain-fr_ET> Hi all
[16:27] <jessie> hey, when i start kde4, it displays the flash screen, then, BAM! x restarts
[16:27] <sylvain-fr_ET> I have a problem with kdesu : I cant run it
[16:27] <Agent_bob> sigma_1234 and yes definitly hardware
[16:27] <sylvain-fr_ET> When I try, I have this message : xauth list | grep localhost
[16:28] <awag> or maybe a power supply problem?
[16:28] <sylvain-fr_ET> sorry, this message :
[16:28] <sylvain-fr_ET> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[16:28] <sylvain-fr_ET> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[16:28] <sigma_1234> !kde4
[16:28] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:28] <jessie> thanks sigma_1234
[16:28] <Agent_bob> jessie disk full ?   (no room in your home dir)     muddy permissions in your home dir  (ran konq with sudo ?)
[16:29] <jessie> sigma_1234: except... nobody's in there
[16:29] <jessie> Agent_bob: what should the permissions be? and i have like.... 5 gigs left, so...
[16:29] <Agent_bob> jessie   df -h    to be sure
[16:29] <sigma_1234> kubuntu-kde4
[16:30] <jessie> yeah, 4.0 gigs and Agent_bob, would you go into the kde4 channel?
[16:30] <sigma_1234> jessie: theres 29 people there
[16:30] <awag> Agent_bob, sigma_1234, another funny thing, it only freezes when i'm actively using the computer, web surfing ect. I can leave it on for days if i don't use it, and nothing happens, but when I come back to it, it will usually die within a few hours of use
[16:31] <Agent_bob> jessie and the perms should be you won everything.    sudo chown $UID -R $HOME
[16:31] <Agent_bob> jessie and that's about as far as i go.
[16:31] <sylvain-fr_ET> Nobody knows ?
[16:32] <Agent_bob> sylvain-fr_ET try kdesudo
[16:32] <BluesKaj> awag, PSU is prolly being overtaxed and it's not responding to heavier load demand from the CPU
[16:32] <sigma_1234> awag: that definetely sounds like defective memory or swap partition
[16:32] <awag> hmm
[16:32] <Agent_bob> sylvain-fr_ET a simple test to make sure your sudo is not broken      sudo echo works
[16:34] <Agent_bob> awag that could be as sigma_1234 said memory related   or it could still be a cable  you don't have much disk access while idle     does it hang on screen saver ?
[16:34] <jessie> Agent_bob: yeah, no go. hey, whats the program that lets you start a kde4 session in kde3? xepher, or something like that...
[16:34] <awag> Agent_bob: i don't have a screensave enabled right now, just turns the screen off
[16:35] <sylvain-fr_ET> Agent_bob: It works
[16:35] <sylvain-fr_ET> kdesudo doesn't work better
[16:36] <Agent_bob> jessie i think it's on the page ^^  http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/
[16:36] <Agent_bob> maybe not.
[16:37] <awag> Agent_bob: is there a log file that i can look at that might be helpful? like something that logs what happens right before a crash
[16:38] <jessie> Agent_bob: yeah, no go
[16:38] <Agent_bob> awag well that's the thing about crashes,  it's impossable to log the info that is needed,   but  /var/log/*  is the place to look
[16:38] <Agent_bob> sylvain-fr_ET where are you calling kdesudo from ?
[16:38] <awag> Agent_bob: hmm, lots of files there
[16:38] <Agent_bob> within kde i hope ?
[16:39] <Agent_bob> awag yeah i know.
[16:40] <Agent_bob> awag syslog  dmesg   and  Xorg.0.log.old   are the most likely to help...
[16:40] <Agent_bob> but that's not chiZZeled in rock
[16:41] <jessie> Agent_bob:  i just reconfigured xserver, so...
[16:43] <Agent_bob> awag and i'm not sure that dmesg isn't over writen each boot   so scratch that one
[16:49] <awag> just froze again
[16:51] <LogicalDash> I'm randomly getting these dialogs saying "The process for the [file|media] protocol died unexpectedly." when I log in. What does that imply?
[16:56] <Yaccin> i get an md5sum mismatch when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree :)
[16:56] <Yaccin> :(
[16:57] <Datalanche> Yaccin: Flash install is broken right now
[16:57] <Yaccin> oh
[16:57] <Yaccin> ok
[16:57] <Yaccin> ill try it in a few days then
[16:57] <Datalanche> You'll have to do it manually for the time being
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !flash
[16:57] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[16:57] <LogicalDash> Yaccin: you can also get an installer thingy from Adobe's website
[16:57] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:57] <Yaccin> hmm ok, ill try that then :D
[16:57] <Yaccin> thx
[17:03] <arrg> Hey guys how do i install untar tar files ?
[17:03] <ikonia> arrg: I told you in #ubuntu
[17:03] <ikonia> arrg: I also told you your distro was not an official ubuntu release.
[17:03] <ikonia> arrg: please don't take it to other official ubuntu channels to try and dodge the fact of what your doing
[17:03] <Yaccin> ok.. installer asks me for a installation path
[17:04] <Yaccin> but noone ive tried works
[17:04] <arrg> No , ikonia i know you told me but how do i untar tar files ??
[17:04] <Yaccin> i also createt /opt/mozilla/plugins
[17:04] <arrg> wouldn't you tell me even if i was using x86 architecture hardware ?
[17:04] <ikonia> arrg: I told you - tar is the command "man tar" to see more info
[17:04] <Yaccin> but /opt/mozilla doesnt work :/
[17:04] <ikonia> arrg: but your not, your using a PS3 - please use the PS3 support system
[17:05] <arrg> hmm ,,tar is the command "man tar"
[17:05] <Agent_bob> arrg tar -xf filename
[17:05] <arrg> ikonia one last question ?
[17:05] <ikonia> arrg: no
[17:05] <arrg> ohh ok
[17:06] <arrg> stop being mean ikonia , we all need hehere
[17:06] <arrg> here*
[17:06] <ikonia> I'm not being mean - respect the topics of the channels your in
[17:06] <Yaccin> so the installer from adobe also doesnt work?
[17:06] <arrg> ikonia , i have searched googled and searched again for ages
[17:06] <zimors> flash plugin on 64 bit os ?
[17:06] <ikonia> arrg: thats not ubuntu's issue
[17:07] <Yaccin> no 32
[17:07] <arrg> fine ikonia , be that way
[17:07] <Yaccin> installer says the installation path is invalid
[17:07] <arrg> thanks agent_bob
[17:09] <BluesKaj> arrg, Extracting tar.gz files to a folder, type or copy and paste in the terminal : tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz
[17:09] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj does exactly the same thing other than the verbosness
[17:09] <arrg> now ikonia , if agent_bob didn't answered me specificaly like you don't how would i have noticed that u need to add -xvzf ?
[17:10] <bazhang> arrg: give it a rest please
[17:10] <Yaccin> anybody? :/
[17:10] <ikonia> arrg: I don't care. You're not using an ubuntu supported distro, your not using #kubuntu so shouldn't be discussing it in here, your not using a supported platform. Drop it and ask in the correct support place
[17:10] <arrg> fine
[17:10] <BluesKaj> yeah Agent_bob , but I wasn't sure he saw it
[17:11] <BluesKaj> ikonia, what distro is he using ?
[17:11] <bazhang> ps3
[17:11] <Yaccin> :/
[17:11] <ikonia> BluesKaj: ubuntu - PS3
[17:11] <Agent_bob> windows by chance ?
[17:11] <ikonia> hence why #kubuntu is not appropriate
[17:11] <awag> hehe
[17:11] <Yaccin> ikonia: i thought ubuntu-ps3 is just ubuntu with a ps3-kernel?
[17:11] <Yaccin> and of course ps3 drivers
[17:12] <ikonia> Yaccin: no
[17:12] <Yaccin> oh ok :)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> playstation hack
[17:15] <smeril> what is   the comand for installing unrar-free?
[17:15] <smeril> i have tryed sudo apt-get unrar-free install
[17:15] <ikonia> smeril: sudo apt-get install unrar-fre
[17:16] <Agent_bob> ikonia i can only speek for my self, but i'm not a ubuntu zealot.  i support linux in general  and don't care if they are using dsl as long as they don't start whining "i don't have that command".    and i'm not trying to ster up trouble with this, just saying that when the channel is slow.   what differance does it make....
[17:16] <smeril> thanks but it couldent fint the packet
[17:16] <romunov> smeril: try "apt-cache search unrar"
[17:17] <ikonia> Agent_bob the difference is the ubuntu support policies and topics if you want to do general help join ##linux, if you don't like the policies bring it up at the support council meetings
[17:17] <Agent_bob> i see.
[17:17] <josh__> what ablock programs can you use for firefox in linux?
[17:17] <smeril> thanks
[17:18] <Yaccin> anybody can help installing flash plugin? :)
[17:18] <bazhang> adblock plus josh__
[17:18] <ikonia> Yaccin: you are aware of the flash package issues and the compatabilities issues with konqueror  ?
[17:18] <Yaccin> yes
[17:18] <Yaccin> the adobe installer doesnt work
[17:18] <Yaccin> :(
[17:18] <josh__> bazhang it didn't seem to work
[17:19] <ikonia> Yaccin: do you expect the adobe installer to work
[17:19] <ikonia> eg: it's still incompatible with konqueror as I understand it
[17:19] <Yaccin> yes i do :P
[17:19] <Yaccin> it worked for me
[17:19] <ikonia> when ?
[17:19] <Yaccin> it just says invalid installation path
[17:19] <Yaccin> last year
[17:19] <ikonia> ok
[17:19] <Yaccin> same kubuntu version
[17:19] <ikonia> that was a different package
[17:19] <BluesKaj> no youtube in konq AFAIK , works ok on FF , if you install the non freeplugin
[17:19] <ikonia> the adobe package has changed
[17:19] <arrg> Ikonia ?
[17:19] <ikonia> arrg: what ?
[17:20] <ikonia> BluesKaj: thanks
[17:20] <josh__> oh wait
[17:20] <Yaccin> im on a mac now... but my sister wants to have the flash plugin
[17:20] <arrg> when you execute the command tar to a file , does it output anything ?
[17:20] <josh__> sorry was being a bit of a n00b
[17:20] <Yaccin> and flash version 9 worked fine for me
[17:20] <josh__> thanks
[17:20] <ikonia> Yaccin: what brower does she use
[17:20] <Yaccin> konqueror atm
[17:20] <ikonia> Yaccin: the flash plugin has changed
[17:20] <Yaccin> i could install firefox, but its so slow :D
[17:20] <ikonia> Yaccin: the old "working" version is not available from adove any more
[17:20] <Yaccin> ikonia: but its still version 9?
[17:20] <ikonia> Yaccin: hence why I'm advising your it probably won't work with konqueror any more
[17:21] <Datalanche> Heh... The *buntu's seem to be getting really "the ubuntu way or no way" with each new version. I prefer to install my own flash, video drivers, etc. It's getting harder and harder to do that without blowing up the system. =/
[17:21] <ikonia> Yaccin: it's still be updated
[17:21] <ikonia> Datalanche: you can still do that
[17:21] <Yaccin> does it work with firefox?
[17:21] <ikonia> Datalanche: no -its not
[17:21] <ikonia> Yaccin: sure
[17:21] <ikonia> Yaccin: still not solid - but better than not working at all
[17:21] <Datalanche> Maybe so
[17:21] <ikonia> Datalanche: it's no harder than it has been with any distro or any other ubuntu release.
[17:22] <Yaccin> with the firefox-integrated installer? or the adobe setup?
[17:22] <arrg> Ikonia , does executing a tar on a tgz file outputs anything ?
[17:22] <ikonia> Yaccin: either as far as I'm aware
[17:22] <Datalanche> I need to reinstall my system from scratch before I say that for certain... I've done a lot of playing with this one, and my computer is in a bit of chaos right now, as I move to Linux 24/7
[17:22] <ikonia> arrg: your not using kubuntu or a supported ubuntu distro - please use the correct support channels
[17:22] <Yaccin> ikonia: well the adobe setup tells my "invalid installation path"...
[17:23] <Yaccin> but the folders are there
[17:23] <arrg> do they have any support channel for the PS3 ??
[17:23] <arrg> tell me
[17:23] <ikonia> Yaccin: your not using firefox
[17:23] <ikonia> arrg: look for your self
[17:23] <bazhang> you are walking a thin line arrg
[17:23] <Yaccin> ikonia: but the folders for the plugin are there...
[17:23] <ikonia> Yaccin: what folders ?
[17:23] <Yaccin> so i dont understand why he tels me that the installation path is invalid :/
[17:24] <Yaccin>  /usr/lib/mozilla
[17:24] <Yaccin>  /usr/lib/firefox
[17:24] <Yaccin> and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[17:24] <ikonia> doesn't it need the package to link against
[17:24] <Yaccin> etc
[17:24] <ikonia> (I don't remember all the plugin details off the top of my head)
[17:24] <Yaccin> i mean its just a .so file, isnt it?
[17:24] <ikonia> Yaccin: I /think/ so yes,
[17:24] <romunov> has anyone tried the new KDE?
[17:25] <Datalanche> Yeah, just gotta put a .so in the right place
[17:25] <arrg> channel lists ?
[17:25] <ikonia> Datalanche: doesn't it do anything else ?
[17:25] <Yaccin> romunov: i have it installed on mac os and used as a livecd
[17:25] <ikonia> arrg: please stop now
[17:25] <bazhang> !irc
[17:25] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[17:25] <Yaccin> ok, works now :)
[17:26] <Yaccin> thx :D
[17:26] <Datalanche> ikonia: I don't believe so... I installed before the Ubuntu flash installer stopped working, but I doubt anything THAT major has changed
[17:26] <ikonia> Datalanche: I don't know the details of the top of my head, not doubting you
[17:26] <Yaccin> yust no sound :/
[17:27] <ikonia> Yaccin: the new plugin has had lots of complaints against it
[17:27] <Datalanche> At my Dapper box at work, all I did was put it in the right spot, and make a symlink to my custom firefox install
[17:27] <Yaccin> it seems to work fine... just no sound :/
[17:27] <ikonia> so not working fine then
[17:27] <Yaccin> why didn they stayed with the old plugin? :(
[17:27] <ikonia> mail adobe and ask
[17:28] <Yaccin> :D
[17:28] <Yaccin> the kubuntu/ubuntu packagers should have stayed with the old plugin...
[17:28] <Datalanche> Yaccin: Is ALSA working otherwise?
[17:28] <Yaccin> yes i can listen to music in amarok
[17:29] <gangalee> how do I enable rsync/ssh?
[17:29] <ikonia> rsync and ssh are two different things, which do you want
[17:30] <Yaccin> oh...
[17:30] <Yaccin> sound not working anymore
[17:31] <Yaccin> worked fine yesterday
[17:32] <Datalanche> hmmm, okay Yaccin, at least now we know the problem is not flash :)
[17:32] <Yaccin> :D
[17:32] <gangalee> ikonia: i want both, I think rsync rides on ssh,, correct?
[17:32] <ikonia> gangalee: it can do
[17:32] <Yaccin> maybe because i have a application running in wine that played a sound when starting?
[17:33] <bazhang> you all should go to #ubuntu; stop making him jump channels so much :}
[17:34] <Datalanche> Yaccin: Perhaps... something's clearly clogging up alsa
[17:34] <ikonia> who ?
[17:34] <Yaccin> seems so
[17:34] <bazhang> you
[17:34] <ikonia> ah
[17:34] <ikonia> I am swapping
[17:34] <Yaccin> i hate software mixing -_-
[17:34] <Yaccin> ill put her my old soundblaster in the pc
[17:34] <Yaccin> :P
[17:34] <bazhang> okay, just worried you would wear yourself out
[17:35] <Datalanche> Yaccin: Try this command: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa reload
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ALSA fix script : http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh
[17:41] <ToyMan> umm. ok, I just went brain-dead or something...
[17:41] <ToyMan> how do you change the desktop wallpaper in kde4?
[17:41] <ToyMan> ah never mind
[17:42] <ToyMan> you have to 'unlock widgets' on the desktop context menu
[17:42] <ToyMan> then the option shows up
[17:43] <jussi01> :)
[17:45] <gangalee> I know rsync can work, how do i configure it to work is the question
[17:45] <snarkster> hmm i read the directions and played with for a few hours and got it to work
[17:46] <smeril> how can i change my ip?
[17:46] <gangalee> connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[17:46] <gangalee> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [receiver]
[17:46] <gangalee> rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(454) [receiver=2.6.9]
[17:46] <snarkster> you want static ip?
[17:46] <wad> smeril: You can edit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:47] <smeril> it says acces denied when i try that command
[17:47] <snarkster> wow man command not found
[17:47] <snarkster> wth
[17:48] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$  /etc/network/interfaces
[17:48] <smeril> bash: /etc/network/interfaces: Åtkomst nekas
[17:48] <smeril> smeril@sm-laptop:~$
[17:49] <snarkster> they dont install man automatically
[17:50] <smeril> anybody who might know?
[17:50] <llutz> smeril: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces               to edit the file, syntax "man interfaces"
[17:52] <smeril> thanks
[17:54] <snarkster> gangalee: did that manual page on rsync help at all?
[17:56] <gangalee> no
[17:56] <gangalee> I know how to use rsync
[17:57] <JuJuBee> Can someone tell me the CLI command to set eth1 to use dhcp?
[17:58] <snarkster> oh.. then man rsync.conf for answers on that
[17:58] <snarkster> JuJuBee: ifup eth1 dhcp
[17:58] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[17:58] <snarkster> that should do it for you
[17:59] <snarkster> sorry rsyncd.conf
[17:59] <snarkster> and be sure to read manpages in konqueror using man:/<manpage>
[18:00] <snarkster> alot eaiser than cli
[18:05] <reverend_joshua> do i have to restart X after i edit fstab for changes to take effect?
[18:06] <tinel> Hi all, I've got a problem with a notebook acer aspire 2012 WLMi. The trouble is at startup, black screen and a serie of long "beeeep" from soundcard. Does someone know wich one may be my problem? Thanks to anyone who can help.
[18:06] <skibum> Anyone... I'm new to linux and need to print envelopes from my Kontact addresses.  Suggestions welcomed.
[18:09] <jussi01> reverend_joshua: no, you shouldnt. sudo mount -a should do it for you.
[18:11] <Strangelet> I just split up my main partition into three partitions, one holding KDE, one going to hold Windows, and one I hope to hold my media. Now, for some reason, my computer will not show my External HD when I plug it in, what is the problem?
[18:11] <bentob0x> in firestarter, I have connections on port 80 from a soft called klauncherjbgu, what is that?
[18:11] <miran> Hello, I have a problem with my printer after a upgrade of cupsys. I'm running kubuntu 8
[18:11] <miran> sorry
[18:11] <frojnd> would anyone know how can I set so gnome-gmail-notifier would automatically run when computer starts ?
[18:12] <jussi01> !autostart | frojnd
[18:12] <ubotu> frojnd: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[18:16] <miran> Hello, I have a problem with my printer after a upgrade of cupsys. I'm running kubuntu 7.10. The printer is a Canon MP160. I've searched for solutions, changed permissions of /dev/lp0, /dev/usb/lp0 (yes, a USB-printer) and tried all suggested solutions in the ubuntu-forums, launchpad and elsewhere. The errormessages are "/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon failed", and "Unable to open parallel port device file: Permission denied" (although the printer
[18:16] <miran> is connected via a USB-port).
[18:17] <miran> Is there anyone with a suggestion? Thanks in advance!
[18:21] <ubuntu> omg......i just dled kubuntu and ran livecd...........IM IN LOVE!
[18:22] <ubuntu> for foreer i thought that kde was ugly, but its gorgeous! and it runs everything so differently than gnome!
[18:22] <ikonia> !offtopic | ubuntu
[18:22] <ubotu> ubuntu: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:25] <ubuntu> i cant seem to get konquerer to connect to google, does anyone know where the pppd conf is to comment out echo and all of that?
[18:26] <ubuntu> !konquerer
[18:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konquerer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:26] <ubuntu> !konqueror
[18:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:27] <Gemtech> fglrx driver how do you unload it? i used this restricied driver on kubuntu now i can not se the OS just a blank screen
[18:27] <Arwen> is anyone here running on KDE4?
[18:28] <sigma_1234> did you backup your xorg.conf?
[18:28] <ol_dude67> Arwen, try #kubuntu-kde4
[18:28] <sigma_1234> !kde4
[18:28] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:28] <emilsedgh> Arwen: yup
[18:28] <Arwen> your thoughts on it?
[18:29] <Gemtech> did you backup your xorg.conf? me? I dont know
[18:30] <Gemtech> i can get to recovery mode just shows terminal but I dont know what to do from there
[18:30] <Gemtech> brb
[18:32] <Gemtech>  i can get to recovery mode just shows terminal
[18:34] <simion314> i need help with nfs server, i set it up but when i try to mount a folder i get this error:  mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed: System Error: Connection refused, the mount command was:  sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/simi  ~/BIG
[18:34] <miran> Hello, I have a problem with my printer after a upgrade of cupsys. I'm running kubuntu 7.10. The printer is a Canon MP160. I've searched for solutions, changed permissions of /dev/lp0, /dev/usb/lp0 (yes, a USB-printer) and tried all suggested solutions in the ubuntu-forums, launchpad and elsewhere. The errormessages are "/usr/lib/cups/backend/canon failed", and "Unable to open parallel port device file: Permission denied" (although the printer
[18:36] <Strangework> I have recently divided up my single partition into three partitions, one with KDE, one which I plan to install Windows XP on, and one with my shared media. But now, my external HD is no longer sensed on my computer. What is the problem? Is there a remedy?
[18:42] <Strangework> I have recently divided up my single partition into three partitions, one with KDE, one which I plan to install Windows XP on, and one with my shared media. But now, my external HD is no longer sensed on my computer. What is the problem? Is there a remedy?
[18:42] <Farchord> Hello, I have a question. Is there a way to lock the Xorg server's refreshrate to one specific rate EVEN if I go inside games? I have a screen problem, gonna RMA it soon, has to do with refresh rates, but for now I need the rates NOT to change.
[18:47] <ubuntu> is it possible to refresh the network lists on knetworkmanager?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Strangework, in the terminal : dmesg | grep hd
[18:48] <Strangework> BluesKaj: I do not have my external HD with me at the moment, waht does that command do?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> it finds any drives attached internally or externally
[18:49] <Strangework> BluesKag; ah!
[18:49] <BluesKaj> no guarantees , but it usually works
[18:49] <Strangework> hm, what if it doesn't? what should I do?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure... i've just used the USB drives , but the command lists them on my setup
[18:51] <Strangework> ahh, okay
[18:51] <tlayton> does anybody have a link to nosrednaekim's source for easy compiz setup mentioned in jriddell's blog?
[18:57] <Nation> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[18:57] <Nation> Íàðîä, êòî â ëèíóêñå ïðîøàðåí íåïëîõî?
[18:58] <smeril> is it easy to install kubuntu on a usb memory
[18:58] <smeril> ?
[18:58] <Farchord> Hello, I have a question. Is there a way to lock the Xorg server's refreshrate to one specific rate EVEN if I go inside games? I have a screen problem, gonna RMA it soon, has to do with refresh rates, but for now I need the rates NOT to change.
[18:58] <ScorpKing> !sound > me
[18:59] <combinio> !flash
[18:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:59] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:03] <ScorpKing> how do i get this card to work? - card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
[19:04] <tashiro> im having trouble installing nmap from source code any tips ;-)
[19:04] <tashiro> any 1?
[19:06] <tashiro> fuck it im out. peace
[19:06] <reverend_joshua> is there a torrent program that i can use in dapper that writes to fat32 partitions?
[19:07] <voidmage-away> I'm having trouble with kvm. I converted my disk image from qcow to raw and now it crashes with exception 13 on both the old and new image. Is my image corrupt and I have to start over, or is it something I can fix?
[19:07] <jpatrick> !info ktorrent > reverend_joshua
[19:10] <ScorpKing> hm.. nou it's working but the sound is very distorted.
[19:11] <MasseR> !flash
[19:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:11] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:17] <val0> woah thecrono is not here... the poor guy is probably sleeping on his keyboard
[19:18] <grandi> is the flash still broken?
[19:19] <makers_mark> is there any way to install shockwave in ubuntu?i go to some web pages and it keeps telling me that i have to install x-shockwave-flash but i have the latest flash installed.
[19:19] <makers_mark> this is for firefox btw.
[19:19] <val0> makers_mark do you have scriptblock installed?
[19:20] <makers_mark> va10 since i don't have a clue what that is,i'm guessing no.
[19:21] <val0> makers_mark so if you go to youtube you can't view the video?
[19:21] <makers_mark> i can
[19:22] <nzk> Is is possible to install fluxbox in such a way that I can easily log into it?
[19:22] <makers_mark> i can view youtube just fine and all.
[19:22] <val0> makers_mark so what site can't you view?
[19:22] <makers_mark> i can view the site,but the pop-up comes up telling me i need application/x-shockwave-flash to view some content.
[19:22] <makers_mark> although the page itself looks fine.
[19:23] <val0> makers_mark check this out http://www.openfree.org/pet/index.php/Installing_Shockwave_Flash_plug-in_for_Mozilla
[19:24] <val0> makers_mark or this one http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-364460.html
[19:24] <[ITA]mitticoooo> a newbie question: i have a shared folder named "share", that i mount succesfully with command "mount -t sharename mountpoint" but i want to edit fstab to mount at startup
[19:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but i don't know wht write and in which position
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> [ITA]mitticoooo: use the graphical editor in system settings->advanced->disks and filesystems
[19:26] <makers_mark> that's just telling me how to install flash va10
[19:26] <nzk> What's the name of the gnome window manager?
[19:26] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i try
[19:26] <SSJ_GZ> nzk: Metacity
[19:27] <nzk> Right.
[19:27] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but maybe i don't solve the problem the same :(
[19:27] <nzk> I just aptitude installed fluxbox, can I just do sudo killall metacity && sudo fluxbox?
[19:27] <val0> makers_mark the second page says that there isn't a shockwave for linux as of Dec 1 2007
[19:28] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i wat symply to mount a folder in /mnt/share where share is the folder name
[19:28] <val0> makers_mark there is a shockwave flash but not shockwave
[19:28] <[ITA]mitticoooo> at the startup
[19:28] <makers_mark> va10 so i'm stuck.check this link www.ziare.ro it's a newspaper site and tell me what it shows you.
[19:29] <Pinguliten> What is a basic text editor built into the shell, kind of messed up a config file. ^^;
[19:30] <val0> makers_mark i checked it out, everything loads fine on mine, no warning or anything. i am using firefox w/flash and that's it :D
[19:30] <ubuntu> hola?
[19:31] <makers_mark> va10 damn you!
[19:31] <ubuntu> speak spanish?
[19:31] <nosrednaekim> !es
[19:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:31] <makers_mark> va10 u haven't been able to get stuff to work very well on my pc with linux.
[19:31] <val0> makers_mark don't know what to tell you dude, everything is ok and i don't see why you would need shockwave rather than flash :S
[19:32] <makers_mark> va10 this is such crap,it doesn't come up with the warning anymore.
[19:33] <val0> makers_mark lol there you go!!!
[19:33] <makers_mark> va10 thanks.
[19:33] <val0> makers_mark np
[19:34] <makers_mark> va10
[19:35] <makers_mark> va10 actually it's only doing it on another account i set up.the account is permissioned as Desktop User
[19:35] <makers_mark> va10 does the account make any difference in what plugins firefox will load?
[19:35] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know whether the KDE 4.0 release event speeches are available for download in higher resolutions?
[19:36] <val0> makers_mark i am not sure if it will make a difference, but i can imagine that the permissions are different and that the desktop user might not have the permissions to run flash scripts as they can be viewed by sysadmins as dangerous
[19:36] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: not yet I don't think
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: OK Thanks. They are awesome!
[19:36] <makers_mark> va10 so i should just make it an adming account?
[19:38] <val0> makers_mark no, you don't need to i don't think... there has to be a way to check what the account is allowed to do and what not... also check in its firefox settings (Edit>Preferences>Content Tab) that java is enabled
[19:39] <makers_mark> va10 java is enabled.
[19:39] <makers_mark> va10 i know i had the same issue with the webcam drivers working on my account (which is the main one) but it simply would not work on another account.
[19:40] <val0> makers_mark then i am sorry, i wouldn't know where to go from here. now that you've isolated the issue to account type you can dig from there
[19:40] <val0> makers_mark if it was a windows machine i'd be able to help a lot more... sorry
[19:40] <makers_mark> va10 k.one more thing,is there any way to update my graphics driver?
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> makers_mark: isthis user a member of the group "video"?
[19:41] <makers_mark> nosrednaekim ?
[19:41] <val0> makers_mark what video card do you have?
[19:41] <makers_mark> don't know what that is
[19:41] <makers_mark> nvidia geforce4, last time i messed arround with the driver settings,i ended up screwing everything up.
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> makers_mark: take a look at the users and groups config GUI in system settings and see if this user is a memmber of the group "video"
[19:42] <makers_mark> in windows my video card works great with dvd's and whatnot,but it's lagging with video playback in ubuntu.
[19:42] <val0> makers_mark i know how it can be... well you have two options i believe, you can either download the linux driver from the nvidia website, close down your X server, make sure that you have build_esentials installed and then run the script and it should install the latest nvidia driver
[19:43] <makers_mark> one second.
[19:43] <zimors> super flash9 wonking on 64bit kubuntu
[19:43] <zimors> working
[19:44] <val0> makers_mark the issue can also be with your codecs
[19:44] <makers_mark> va10 i use vlc
[19:45] <makers_mark> i don't think codecs should be a problem with vlc.
[19:45] <[ITA]mitticoooo> an easy question (maybe): at startup i have to write "mount -t vboxsf Share_Linux /mnt/share" for mounting a shared folder named "Share_Linux" to the position /mnt/share
[19:45] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but i want to make it automatic
[19:45] <val0> makers_mark probably not, so you can update your driver that way... are you using restricted drivers right now?
[19:46] <makers_mark> va10 yes.
[19:46] <[ITA]mitticoooo> that string is correct my doubt are what write in fstab
[19:46] <makers_mark> nosrednaekim i'm in the group settings but i don't see a "video"
[19:46] <val0> makers_mark ok, well, then you can try updating the driver like i suggested
[19:47] <makers_mark> va10 how do i shut down X?
[19:48] <val0> makers_mark the easiest way is to logout, and the select Console Login in the bottom right corner
[19:48] <val0> makers_mark that would allow you to login but the x server will be off
[19:48] <makers_mark> what about just ctrl+alt+F2?
[19:48] <val0> makers_mark also make sure that you have build_esentials installed
[19:48] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: you might be able to just put that into /etc/rc.local?
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> makers_mark: video is not listed under the secondary groups that that user belongs to?
[19:49] <makers_mark> va10 how do i install build_esentials
[19:49] <makers_mark> and no,it's not listed.
[19:50] <makers_mark> brb
[19:50] <val0> makers_mark System>Adept Manager and search for build
[19:50] <cpk1> !build-essential
[19:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> an easy question (maybe): at startup i have to write "mount -t vboxsf Share_Linux /mnt/share" for mounting a shared folder named "Share_Linux" to the position /mnt/share
[19:51] <Pinguliten> What is a basic text editor built into the shell? I kind of messed up a config file. ^^;
[19:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but i want to make it automatic
[19:52] <[ITA]mitticoooo> at startup
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> Pinguliten: vim? nano?
[19:52] <[ITA]mitticoooo> can someone tellme how to mount something at startup?
[19:52] <Pinguliten> Thanks mate
[19:52] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: like i said putting that line into /etc/rc.local might work
[19:53] <simion314> is iptables is compiled as a module in Ubuntu?
[19:53] <Pinguliten> messed a bit with the X config file trying to get my blasted touch screen to work properly, not a good idea it seems
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> [ITA]mitticoooo: did you try the disks and filesystems manager
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> Pinguliten: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might work better for that...
[19:55] <Pinguliten> nosrednaekim just removed the lines I added now
[19:56] <Pinguliten> And crossing my fingers
[19:58] <Pinguliten> Back to square one then in getting the touchscreen to work. :/
[19:58] <nosrednaekim> !touchscreen
[19:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:58] <Pinguliten> At least I'm learning by correcting musstakes. ^^
[20:01] <yeniklasorr> Do you have SN9CXXX webcam driver ?
[20:03] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[20:04] <rysiek|pl> anybody wishes to help with the dreaded KNetworkManager? ;)
[20:04] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: whats wrong
[20:04] <rysiek|pl> I have enabled the "manual configuration" and am unable to get back to automagic config
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: erase all line pertaining to your network device in the file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[20:06] <val0> rysiek|pl or under configure interface set it to DHCP
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: umm... that will help with KNetworkManager?.. you know, I long for the days when network config was easy and was done through /etc/network/interfaces alone...
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> val0: it is on "manual" and in the config on "dhcp" :)
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> val0: and I have to manually(sic!) "enable" the iface every time through the graphical dialogues
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> man, that networkmanager has a loong way to go...
[20:07] <BluesKaj> actually just open manual config then highlight the eth0 address under the interfaces tab and click on configure
[20:07] <val0> rysiek|pl isn't there an option to activate the interface when the computer starts?
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: yes, it will, because networkmanager ignores any devices wich are included in that file
[20:07] <BluesKaj> the auto-configure dialog should pop up
[20:08] <BluesKaj> rysiek|pl, did you get that?
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: well, in that case it should have an option to remove such an iface, as there is an option to configure one ;)
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: momentos
[20:09] <miladen> Oi guys, i just downloaded a game, but all it has is a bunch of files and an .sh file, how do i run this game?
[20:09] <rysiek|pl> val0: thing is, when an iface is managed by NM, it is "hotplugged" and re-configured for new (wired) networks as soon as the cable is plugged-in
[20:09]  * selene is away: Gone away for now.
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> miladen: run "./thefilename.sh"
[20:10] <miladen> oh ok
[20:10] <Arwen> miladen, the .sh is a shell script, run it in a terminal
[20:10] <Arwen> or figure out how it works and make your own
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> val0: with the "manual" config I can check "bring up with system", but that would need the cable to be plugged-in while /etc/init.d/networking start is run
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> val0: hence the urge to get back to NM
[20:10] <josh__> How do you format a drive in kubuntu?
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> ;)
[20:11] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: ok, IN the manual config, double clicking the iface...
[20:11] <Arwen> josh__, mkfs.fstype device parameters
[20:11] <miladen> i got a long error
[20:11] <Arwen> well, pastebin it
[20:11] <josh__> ok thanks
[20:11] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: two radio-boxes "Automatic"; "Manual"
[20:11] <rysiek|pl> hmm
[20:12] <miladen> Arwen: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:12] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: should I check "Automatic", but NOT DHCP?
[20:12] <smeril> how can i change desktop theme?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> automatic , rysiek|pl
[20:12] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: and DHCP or Bootp?
[20:12] <Arwen> miladen, you need to install some sdl libraries
[20:12] <miladen> how do i know which ones?
[20:12] <Arwen> one second
[20:12] <BluesKaj> dhcp
[20:12] <Arwen> try libsdl-image1.2
[20:13] <Arwen> :-)
[20:13] <Kobol> Hmm, I'm having trouble upgrading from Fiesty to Gutsy, attempted Run Application gksu "update-manager" which brought up a request for administrative password. Which I provided, only to find no results?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> bbl. errands
[20:13] <yeniklasorr> Do you have SN9CXXX webcam driver ?
[20:13] <Arwen> packages.ubuntu.com and the apt-cache tool
[20:13] <miladen> couldnt fint pacakge
[20:13] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: thought so. well, no. that would get me back to where I was
[20:13] <rysiek|pl> anybody other ideas? ;)
[20:13] <Arwen> miladen, do you have universe enabled?
[20:13] <miladen> ?
[20:13] <miladen> say what
[20:13] <Arwen> oh wait, it's main. Um, try running apt-get update first.
[20:14] <miladen> i just did
[20:14] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: after removing the eth0 stanza from .../interfaces file I get a menu item in KNetMan popup-menu "wired connection", but it's inactive
[20:14] <Arwen> huh, because it shows here
[20:14] <Arwen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libsdl-image1.2 <-- direct link, but you
[20:14] <Arwen> you'll have to resolve dependencies yourself
[20:14] <smeril> how can i change theame
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: now run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[20:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i want to write in atext file a script but i am not able to start
[20:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i know the content but I don't know how to start and the file format
[20:16] <[ITA]mitticoooo> :D
[20:16] <Kobol> Does anyone have any ideas about how to upgrade from Fiesty to Gutsy?
[20:16] <Arwen> !upgrade
[20:16] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> [ITA]mitticoooo: "kate filename" and if it requires root access "kdesudo kate filename"
[20:17] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i try
[20:17] <Arwen> or your could make a list of what software you have installed and just start fresh
[20:17] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: ummm... o..k. now KNM is working, but I got "Battery has been removed". well, meh. next time I'll just restart the NM dbus daemon, not the whole dbus ;)
[20:17] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot, got a wee bit smarter
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: heh... :)
[20:18]  * rysiek|pl still prefers teh good ole vim /etc/network/interfaces && /etc/init.d/networking restart routine, but meh...
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: there is probably a way to go back to that.... but you may as well run debian ;)
[20:19] <noaXess> !find libpython2.5.so
[20:19] <ubotu> File libpython2.5.so found in python2.5-dev
[20:19] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: well, guess what. I do. on Teh Server ;)
[20:19] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: and there is a way to remove NM completely, but that removes the kubuntu-desktop meta-package, and we don't want that, now, do we?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: no harm really, as long as you don't try to upgrade.
[20:20] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: so I figured, as I can't beat it, I'll join the dreaded thing. just needed some info. and have to admint, it *is* getting better
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> (updating is fine)
[20:20] <[ITA]mitticoooo> nosrednaekim: i write my script but then when i click on it it opens in edit mode with kate
[20:20] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: yeah, I know
[20:20] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i wish to make it runs
[20:21] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: but I just might forget that I removed NM and Avahi - and hence kubuntu-desktop - in, like, 3 months ;)
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: hehe.... that probably wouldn't be good.
[20:21] <Kobol> Thanks Arwen
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> rysiek|pl: I bear with it since it makes wireless (especially WPA) a whole lot easier
[20:23] <rysiek|pl> nosrednaekim: yeah, that's the thing that also keeps me from throwing it out of the window
[20:23] <[ITA]mitticoooo> nosrednaekim: my script (a normal text file) is something like this "sudo mount -t..........."
[20:23] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i wish to click on it and make it runs, not open in edit mode :)
[20:24] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: place #!/bin/bash as the first line
[20:25] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: adn then change the permissions (either through the graphical thingy - right-click on file -> Permissions..., or from console: chmod u+x the_file)
[20:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i try
[20:25] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx
[20:27] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: no prob
[20:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> rysiek|pl: sry i am newbie i am not able the same
[20:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i write in first line
[20:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> #!/bin/bash
[20:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> in the second line
[20:29] <[ITA]mitticoooo> mount -t............
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> aye
[20:30] <[ITA]mitticoooo> have i to change extension?
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> in a text file, right?
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> noo
[20:30] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes
[20:30] <[ITA]mitticoooo> if i click on it, starts kate in edit mode
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: it's not windoze. Linux checks the type of file based on its contents, not name
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> [ITA]mitticoooo: if this is going to be run from clicked icon, you will need to prefix that command with kdesudo, for instance "kdesudo mount -t...."
[20:30] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: as I told you, you need to change the permissions
[20:31] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: chmod a+x the_file
[20:33] <[ITA]mitticoooo> rysiek|pl: done now if i click on it nothing happens :D
[20:33] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but kate does not start so it's good
[20:33] <[ITA]mitticoooo> :D
[20:33] <[ITA]mitticoooo> it's a step
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: it gets run in the background
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: it probablu complains about permissions, if you are trying to mount something
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: try to run it from a console
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: ./the_file
[20:34] <rysiek|pl> what's the output?
[20:34] <[ITA]mitticoooo> k
[20:35] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes maybe is gone but i cant see nothing
[20:35] <[ITA]mitticoooo> the output is symply the prompt
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> did you run it in console? it didn't print anything?
[20:35] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes anything
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> well, in that case it simply probably worked
[20:35] <rysiek|pl> :)
[20:36] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok now to see i restart
[20:36] <rysiek|pl> ??
[20:36] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: restart what
[20:36] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes because the script mount a "shared folder"
[20:36] <[ITA]mitticoooo> now it's already mounted
[20:36] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i can't see if the script is playng or not
[20:37] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: sudo umount ...
[20:37] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: :)
[20:37] <rysiek|pl> and then check
[20:37] <[ITA]mitticoooo> right!
[20:37] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i try
[20:37] <rysiek|pl> !it
[20:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:37] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: btw ^^^^
[20:38] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: if you prefer your language, there is an Italian channel, too ;)
[20:38] <[ITA]mitticoooo> no problem
[20:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i tryed "sudo umount/ mnt/share"
[20:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i tryed "sudo umount /mnt/share"
[20:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> where share is the name of the folder
[20:39] <thomas__> BluesKaj: oh no http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip it's dead :(
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: did it say anything?
[20:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but dosn't unmount
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> ?
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> grp share /etc/mtab
[20:39] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i fell i am forgotting something
[20:39] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: grep share /etc/mtab
[20:40] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: does it print anything?
[20:40] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: you said you were trying to get it so the folder mounted on startup... pretty sure the simplest way to do that is to just put the mount line into /etc/rc.local
[20:40] <kristian> evening all
[20:40] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes
[20:40] <[ITA]mitticoooo> Share_Linux that is the name of the hared folder i have in windows
[20:41] <rysiek|pl> ok, I gotta go
[20:41] <rysiek|pl> cpk1: will you help [ITA]mitticoooo?
[20:41] <[ITA]mitticoooo> cpk1: maybe is the simplest way but i had to install kubuntu only yesterday
[20:41] <cpk1> I can try but I am in and out
[20:42] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thaks rysiek
[20:42] <[ITA]mitticoooo> no problem if i cant umount
[20:42] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: "sudo nano /etc/rc.local" and then at the bottom of the file put in the command that you want to run
[20:42] <[ITA]mitticoooo> the script i fell it plays
[20:43] <makers_mark> va10 still there?
[20:43] <rysiek|pl> [ITA]mitticoooo: good luck ;)
[20:44] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: you still need to run the script... you could also tell rc.local to run the script instead of the mount command if you wanted to
[20:44] <makers_mark> i installed the latest nvidia driver for my geforce 4 but it's giving me trouble.how can i revert to the previous restricted driver?
[20:44] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i am understanding
[20:44] <chris__> hello.
[20:45] <chris__> I have a question..
[20:45] <chris__> Is there a playstation emulator that was made for KDE?
[20:45] <chris__> As in, doesn't use GTK?
[20:45] <thomas__> chris__: don't think so
[20:46] <chris__> dang.
[20:46] <chris__> Like I was using epsx
[20:46] <chris__> or.. something like that :/
[20:46] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: or you could edit your fstab
[20:46] <[ITA]mitticoooo> cpk1:  my script is simply "sudo mount -t vboxsf Share_Linux /mnt/share"
[20:46] <chris__> But I have a little usb plugin that allows me to use my PS2 controller.
[20:46] <thomas__> chris__: whats the problem whit them?
[20:46] <chris__> It refuses to map the keys to the controller.
[20:46] <thomas__> hmm
[20:46] <chris__> well it's like it maps them
[20:46] <chris__> But when I try to use the keys, it doesn't work.
[20:46] <[ITA]mitticoooo> have i to copy exactly that string?
[20:46] <thomas__> can't help with taht
[20:46] <chris__> yeah I kind of figured :/
[20:47] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: if you put it into rc.local you shouldnt need the sudo
[20:47] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: what is the dev point though?
[20:48] <[ITA]mitticoooo> a folder in windowsXP
[20:48] <Dr_willis> chris__, theres a lot of different adaptors out like that. there is a jstest program thatyou can run then wiggle the pad/buttons around. see if they are all sending output. If they are. Then you will have to remap the joystick settings in the game.
[20:48] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but i am running kubuntu with vbox emulator
[20:48] <[ITA]mitticoooo> so this is the command for mounting
[20:48] <Dr_willis> chris__,  if they are not even giveing output. then the driver isent seeing allthe buttons.
[20:49] <chris__> well
[20:49] <chris__> There giving output.
[20:49] <chris__> But then when I press the controller keys, it doesn't respond.
[20:49] <chris__> (Well like.. when I press "Start" nothing happens.)
[20:49] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/17 looks like what you might want to put into your fstab then
[20:50] <Dr_willis> chris__,  try some other game that lets you configure the gamepad. You mayjust have to configure it spificially for each game
[20:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx cpk1 i have already edited rc.local and reboot
[20:51] <cpk1> [ITA]mitticoooo: ok we will see how it goes then
[20:51] <chris__> no I don't think that's it
[20:51] <chris__> I'm using a playstation emulator.
[20:51] <chris__> I remember there was... sometihng I had to do differently
[20:51] <chris__> I did it last time.
[20:51] <chris__> But that was a long time ago :/
[20:52] <chris__> Do you guys recomend a playstation emulator?
[20:52] <Dr_willis> the ps emulators have all sorts of input plugins you can configure
[20:53] <chris__> well pSX doesn't have any plugins, which is.. good
[20:53] <chris__> I could never get the epsxe plugins to work
[20:53] <Dr_willis> If it works. :)
[20:53] <chris__> lol
[20:53] <chris__> Would you guys recomend esxpe?
[20:53] <Dr_willis> I got USB Gamepads that are clones of the ps2 controllers.
[20:53] <chris__> yeah.
[20:53] <chris__> Mines an adapter.
[20:53] <Dr_willis> chris__,  with emulators it often depends on what game you are playng as to what emulator works best.
[20:53] <[ITA]mitticoooo> cpk1: yes it's mounted!
[20:54] <chris__> well I mostly play the 3 Final Fantasy games :)
[20:56] <Darkrift411> I have a problem. I have to send in my laptop for repairs, and they mentioned i am not covered if linux is on there. My restore cd doesnt work, so i tried a linux gparted live cd... the partitions are all gone, but grub isnt :S how do i remove grub also
[20:57] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,  totally whipe the hd with no OS. :) ask themif its covered then.
[20:57] <Darkrift411> i tried
[20:57] <Darkrift411> i deleted all partitions
[20:57] <Dr_willis> and ask them why their restore cd dont work..
[20:57] <Darkrift411> but grub persisted
[20:57] <Darkrift411> how do i delete grub
[20:58] <BluesKaj> makers_mark, the latest nvidia driver has to be uninstalled first , before enabling the default restricted one. If you used the 'drivername.run' file to install via the CLI ,there should be an uninstall utility inside the nvidia folder . open the terminal cd to the latest nvidia folder , then use the ' ./uninstall ' command.
[20:58] <Darkrift411> and i thin the restore cd doesnt work because i might have accidentally removed the restore partition when i was tired of vista
[20:59] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,   No idea on the restore cd.. from what ive seen the restore partition is oftenused to backup stuff. Not really restore the os. But these companies do so many different things.
[20:59] <Darkrift411> i dont care about the restore, i just want to get rid of grub
[20:59] <Darkrift411> thats like a bright flashing sign that says "Linux was here!!"
[20:59] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,  if you have a normal vista cd - you can boot it and use its commands to write the normal windows MBR to the mbr.
[21:00] <Dr_willis> or you could use dd.
[21:00] <makers_mark> BluesKaj actually it's just and install .pkg
[21:00] <Darkrift411> would an XP cd work?
[21:00] <Dr_willis> xp cd - use 'fdisk /mbr' will work
[21:00] <Darkrift411> niced
[21:00] <Dr_willis> or should
[21:00] <Darkrift411> lemme try that
[21:01] <noaXess> !find dcopserver
[21:01] <ubotu> File dcopserver found in kdelibs-dbg, kdelibs4c2a
[21:01] <[ITA]mitticoooo> cpk1: thaks, just last 2 question: "chmod a+x" what means exactly?
[21:01] <[ITA]mitticoooo> change...
[21:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> modality?
[21:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> "a+x"
[21:02] <Darkrift411> xp cd doesnt give a command line
[21:02] <Darkrift411> i tried f8 etc
[21:02] <Darkrift411> do i need to somehow create a dos cd lol
[21:02] <BluesKaj> makers_mark, where is the install.pkg ?
[21:02] <makers_mark> home folder
[21:03] <BluesKaj> ok perfect, look in the home folder /nvidia folder for an uninstall text file
[21:04] <makers_mark> BluesKaj there's no nvidia folder.
[21:04] <yamal> Darkrift411: you want to remove the master boot record, and really don't care about anything else that might be on your hard drive?
[21:05] <makers_mark> BluesKaj all there is i Desktop,Documents,Examples,Music,Pictures,Public,Templated,Videos,a text file that has to do with nautilus,and the nvidia driver installer .pkg.run
[21:06] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,  theres the super-grub live cd also.
[21:06] <BluesKaj> makers_mark, ok then in the terminal, sudo dpkg -r "name of nvidia driver file'
[21:08] <makers_mark> BluesKaj it says "warning:ignoring request to remove nvidia-linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run which isn't installed."
[21:08] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i wish to have the navigation bar in all the windows
[21:08] <Darkrift411> no, ive already deleted the partitions
[21:09] <Darkrift411> i want it completely blank when i send it in
[21:09] <Darkrift411> im sure hp can reinstall the os once they get it
[21:09] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but when i close and open tha navigation bar expires
[21:09] <Darkrift411> i just want all traces of linux gone so they dont hassle me about my warranty'
[21:10] <yamal> Darkrift411: then boot up any linux live-cd (e.g. ubuntu install cd), and use the dd command
[21:10] <Darkrift411> i tried the kubuntu live cd... no go... then i downloaded the gparted cd, which worked to delete the partitions but left the mbr
[21:10] <Darkrift411> dd?
[21:10] <Darkrift411> ok, ill go look it up
[21:11] <[ITA]mitticoooo> done solved my small problem :D
[21:11] <BluesKaj> makers_mark, try this: sh ./nvidia-linux-x86-96.43.01-uninstall.sh
[21:12] <yamal> Darkrift411: the command is « dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/HARDDRIVE count=1 bs=512 » where HARDDRIVE is of course replaced with the proper device like hda or sda or so.
[21:13] <makers_mark> BluesKaj it says it can't open the package.i'll try to figure it out later,gotta go for now.thanks for your help though.
[21:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:13] <yamal> Darkrift411: and you'll need to be root for that, of course
[21:18] <Dr_willis> yamal,  i couldent rember the proper dd command to do that. :)
[21:18] <yamal> Dr_willis: google could ;)
[21:18] <Dr_willis> if he wants it toally blank i guess he could zero it  out totally - no need for a count #
[21:18] <Dr_willis> In case the fbi raid the shop!   'Look a Linux User! Arrest Him!'
[21:19] <yamal> the repair shop would freak out, but yes he could do that :)
[21:19] <Dr_willis> I wonder at what company this laptop is from that says the warrenty is void if Linux is installed...
[21:22] <Darkrift411> of=/dev/HARDDRIVE is that supposed to be if or of?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> of = Output File
[21:23] <Darkrift411> ok
[21:23] <Dr_willis> what you are writing TO
[21:24] <Dr_willis> dd has sort of a weird syntax. ;0
[21:25] <Darkrift411> nice
[21:25] <Darkrift411> worked :)
[21:25] <Darkrift411> "Operating System nor found"
[21:26] <Darkrift411> never thought i would be happy to see that
[21:26] <yamal> Darkrift411: as Dr_willis already said, you could even zero-out the entire disk if you want by leaving out the 'count=' from the command
[21:27] <Dr_willis> what brand laptop is this any way Darkrift411 ?
[21:32] <motanel> hello, i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and i tried to do apt-get update and it seems that nothing is happening... it's not searching for packages online, it's trying to retrieve them from the cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon....
[21:33] <motanel> what may be the cause for this?
[21:33] <jpatrick> motanel: remove the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:34] <motanel> i see now
[21:34] <motanel> it says that the regular update sources have been removed by the installer because they failed to verify
[21:34] <jpatrick> motanel: then: sudo apt-get update and install what you want
[21:34] <motanel> that was because something went wrong during the install so i disabled the network interface during installation
[21:35] <motanel> hopefully, this is the only thing i broke
[21:37] <motanel> i removed all the comments. it works now, thanks ;)
[21:42] <Darkrift411> Dr_willis its an hp/compaq
[21:44] <Darkrift411> my wifi and pcmcia died, and while on the phone, i accidentially mentioned that it doesnt work in windows or linux, and as soon as i mentioned linux heseemed pleased....
[21:44] <Darkrift411> he said "linux.. we dont support... cannot fix if you have linux"
[21:45] <Darkrift411> so i made it sound like i was using a live cd for linux
[21:46] <sparrw> im trying to build gdb and im getting a warning regarding 'makeinfo' being missing
[21:46] <basy_> howto automatic deselec selected files afer copy, move, etc, in KRUSADER. They stay selected.... ?
[21:48] <Dr_willis> I would say 'show me the writing that says that'
[21:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[21:48] <Dr_willis> They cant 'support' linux because their tech cant be expcted to know linux.. But i bet they got some live cd's aroudn to test things out. heh
[21:49] <bmk789> is there a way a can switch between my laptops monitor and an external monitor without restarting kdm?
[21:49] <kvl3vr> hola... alguien habla español y me puede ayudar a instalar mi kubuntu... llevo 7 horas intentando y no puedo
[21:49] <bmk789> and preferably use dual monitors
[21:49] <Dr_willis> bmk789,  On the few laptops ive used. i could just hit the right keyvombo on the laptop and it would to to the eternal monitor.
[21:50] <jussi01> !es | kvl3vr
[21:50] <ubotu> kvl3vr: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:50] <Dr_willis> Or you could set up dual monitors and clone the display I guess.
[21:50] <kvl3vr> ok, gracias
[21:50] <Dr_willis> What video card is in the laptop?
[21:50] <bmk789> Dr_willis: the keyboard combo doesnt work and KDE's monitor setup utility wont do it
[21:50] <bmk789> intel X3100
[21:51] <Dr_willis> I would have to say - check the ubuntu laptop forums, perhaps theres some intel tools to help.
[21:51] <bmk789> ok, thanks
[21:51] <noaXess> !x11
[21:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:57] <umberto> salve
[21:57] <jpatrick> !it | umberto
[21:58] <ubotu> umberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:59] <sotos> anyone know a communication program which support video + sound and works with msn?
[21:59] <Dr_willis> !pidgin
[21:59] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[21:59] <Dr_willis> No idea if that works withmdn or not. but its very Popular program
[22:00] <sotos> tnx a lot
[22:01] <SlimeyPete> it does work with msn, but I dunno if it works with video
[22:07] <Pinguliten> Would this be a decent server for home usage? a bit old http://ciao.co.uk/HP_ProLiant_ML530_G2_5360784 2.4Ghz cpus in it though and around 400euros.
[22:07] <Dr_willis> depends on what you are serving. :)
[22:08] <Dr_willis> a 1 ghz or less machine can make a very good server.
[22:09] <muhkuh> hi there i got a problem i messed up mz GUI on Debian4.0Etch and i don|t even know the debian irc adress
[22:09] <muhkuh> ``
[22:09] <Dr_willis> try #debian ?
[22:09] <muhkuh> just using a live cd right now
[22:09] <Pinguliten> something fun to fool around with really.
[22:09] <muhkuh> thank zou )(
[22:10] <rysiek|pl> re
[22:10] <rysiek|pl> guys, was any of you able to install hardy alpha 3?
[22:12] <g2g591> rysieklpl: i upgraded from a fresh gutsy install to alpha 2
[22:12] <g2g591> rysieklpl: i can point you at a daily iso if you want
[22:13] <jussi01> !tab > g2g591
[22:13] <rysiek|pl> g2g591: please do; alpha3 installation hangs just before setting the grub
[22:14] <g2g591> rysiek|pl: here ya go http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080124/hardy-desktop-i386.iso
[22:15] <g2g591> rysiek|pl: one advantage of a daily is no or very few updates to download
[22:15] <georges> hello !!
[22:15] <g2g591> georges: question?
[22:15] <lupul> hi. is there a way to install the desktop unfolding effect from kde4 on kde3?
[22:15] <lupul> and the kmenu
[22:15] <g2g591> lupul: nope
[22:15] <lupul> :(
[22:15] <peanutwithchocol> hello, does anybody know what package should i install for get spanish kde4?????
[22:16] <g2g591> lupul: kde 4 is totally incompatable with kde 3
[22:16] <g2g591> peanutwithchocol: ill look it up for you
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> g2g591: thanks!
[22:16] <lupul> i know. i meant some package to do that effect
[22:16] <Dr_willis> desktop unfolding effect  ?
[22:16] <lupul> not compiz. something else
[22:17] <lupul> in kde4 you press ctrl f8 and it shows all 4 desktops. or how many you have. that's what i'm trying to do on kde3
[22:19] <g2g591> peanutwithchocol: kde-l10n-es
[22:19] <peanutwithchocol> ok g2g591, thanks a lot
[22:19] <smith__> with compiz there is expo thingy , desktops flattened into one view
[22:19] <smith__> super-e
[22:21] <muhkuh> want to install kubunt now but i don't want to format the disk how's that possible?
[22:21] <muhkuh> it not in the option
[22:22] <muhkuh> i got still debian on the hd and it is supposed to stay there ^
[22:22] <spidey> DCC SEND "startkeylogger"
[22:23] <g2g591> muhkuh: it is perfectly possible and should be in the options, try the manuall partioning option and see if you can do that.
[22:23] <nalioth> well, that was smart
[22:24] <LjL> eugh vorian
[22:25]  * g2g591 wonders why voran was kicked, he doesn't even see a message from him
[22:25] <LjL> !exploit > g2g591    (g2g591, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:26] <vorian> thanks LjL :)
[22:26] <g2g591> LjL : ah , i see
[22:26] <muhkuh> just lets me type a 1 or a 7 in front
[22:26] <muhkuh> what a crap
[22:27] <muhkuh> don't need 1 or 7gb i need 4 man
[22:29] <LjL> g2g591: if you are interested in taking that test, join again now
[22:29] <judgen> anyone got a good human theme for kde?
[22:30] <LjL> g2g591: you can type it now
[22:30] <LjL> g2g591: you pass
[22:31] <muhkuh> why can't i choose 2 3 4 5 6 8 or 9???
[22:31] <muhkuh> my keyboard is ok
[22:31]  * g2g591 didn't think he was affected, but had to make sure
[22:31] <slow-motion> hi
[22:38] <sars> hello
[22:39] <Alyxander> is kde 4.0 available for upgrade in the repos?
[22:39] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[22:39] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:39] <Alyxander> thanks
[22:39] <sars> where firefoxe store marked page?
[22:39] <g2g591> Alyxander: kde 4.0 is rough though, 4.1 is better
[22:40] <g2g591> Alyxander: sed s/is/will be
[22:41] <sars> if firefox can access other directory than home how he can store his data i can understand
[22:41] <Alyxander> thanks g2g591 im only asking because my dual monitors didnt work with 4.0 but work fine in 3.5
[22:41] <sars> if firefox cant access other directory than home how he can store his data i can understand
[22:42] <sars> can any one answer my question
[22:42] <SlimeyPete> sars: firefox stores all its data in home
[22:42] <Fullma> hder bi darija xD
[22:42] <sars> slimeypete:sorry but i cant see them
[22:43] <olivitho> hola
[22:43] <SlimeyPete> sars: in home there is a directory called .mozilla
[22:43] <SlimeyPete> sars: it is a hidden directory
[22:44] <sars> :) idont know thats hiden directory exist in linux am new thanx for this news
[22:44] <SlimeyPete> sars: directories that start with a . are hidden
[22:44] <SlimeyPete> :)
[22:45] <sars> ah ok and if i want see them?
[22:45] <slow-motion> n8
[22:45] <sars> what i must do
[22:46] <SlimeyPete> sars: in a terminal type "ls -a". I don't know how you do it in Dolphin (I don't use Dolphin)
[22:46] <hola> imnot able to set my video with setenv display. Why?
[22:46] <SlimeyPete> hola: setenv? try export instead
[22:47] <hola> SlimeyPete: i have to set my video on the client server
[22:47] <chaos_> Hello all, who knows how to install kde4 binaries onto kubuntu7.10?
[22:48] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[22:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:48] <sars> ok thank u i will try
[22:48] <blizzzek> hi
[22:50] <fran> ayuda en español.. podria dar alguien el link
[22:50] <hola> SlimeyPete: i dont know how to set the display. I made export$DISPLAY clientmachine  but it gave an error
[22:51] <SlimeyPete> usually it's "export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0" or something similar I think
[22:53] <SlimeyPete> hola: hmmm, more like "export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0" (replace <IP_ADDRESS> with the ip of the client machine)
[22:53] <SlimeyPete> and replace 0.0 with the number of the display (usually 0.0)
[22:54] <hola> SlimeyPete: i tried but it said: <IP_ADDRESS> is not a valid identifier
[22:54] <SlimeyPete> what exactly did you type?
[22:55] <hola> export <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[22:55] <SlimeyPete> no
[22:55] <SlimeyPete> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[22:56] <SlimeyPete> that means "set the $DISPLAY variable so that its value is "<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0"   :)
[22:57] <muhkuh> how can i mount my partitions? it tells me they are not in /etc/mtab
[22:58] <g2g591> muhkuh: if they are ext3 (linux) use mount -t ext3 /dev/sd* /mountpoint
[22:58] <hola> SlimeyPete: xterm Xt error: Cant open display: <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[22:59] <muhkuh> ok i try
[22:59] <muhkuh> thx
[22:59] <Alyxander> ok stupid question but where is the screen saver setup in kubuntu
[23:00] <g2g591> hola: if ssh is setup on the server machine, you can ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and run apps normally
[23:00] <SlimeyPete> hola: what X client are you using?
[23:00] <SlimeyPete> another Linux/MacOS box or a Windows client?
[23:00] <Alyxander> ha desktop!
[23:01] <hola> SlimeyPete: host is kub 7.10 and client is kub 7.10
[23:01] <SlimeyPete> hola: and have you enabled x-forwarding and then sshed into the host using "ssh -X" ?
[23:02] <muhkuh> it just tells me :       hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[23:06] <val0> lol, have you guys noticed how many people have "ubuntu" as there default user name?
[23:06] <miladen> Guys i just downloaded gimpshop, and its a .deb file, how do i install this?
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> miladen: sudo dpg -i gimpshop.deb
[23:06] <fran> hola... cual es el canal en español? no lo encuento
[23:06] <miladen> thx
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> miladen: sorry dpkg
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> not dpg
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> (my keyboard is rubbish)
[23:07] <val0> !es | fran
[23:07] <ubotu> fran: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:07] <fran> ty
[23:08] <hola> SlimeyPete: thank you a lot now it work.. At work with unix i usually use setenv DISPLAY hostname:0.0
[23:08] <Chousuke> isn't that csh
[23:08] <miladen> SlimeyPete: i installed it now, but it didnt change GIMP, what did i do wrong?
[23:09] <Chousuke> or perhaps zsh :/
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> miladen: I don't know, sorry - I haven't used gimpshop. Maybe you have to load it from within GIMP.
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: csh
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> hola: no problem :)
[23:12] <Alyxander> ok so the restricted drivers suck! nvidia after the install just gos all to hell
[23:12] <val0> SlimeyPete I've got one for you! On boot I get "PCI: failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@90000000 for 0000:02.00" then it prints out "Kinit: name_to_dev_t(...), trying to resume from /dev/disk..., Kinit: no resume image doing normal boot" I get all that from a fresh install :S everything runs fine, nothing crashes and no errors in the logs... WTF?
[23:12] <miladen> SlimeyPete: what does dpkg mean?
[23:12] <val0> Alyxander did you try to install the nvidia driver you got off their webiste?
[23:12] <SlimeyPete> miladen: dpkg is the package installer
[23:13] <miladen> val0 i cant install linux on my primary computer because of the same erro
[23:13] <miladen> r
[23:13] <hola> SlimeyPete: so it is different unix and linux?
[23:13] <miladen> and i have ATI :(
[23:13] <Alyxander> val0, no im going to try that next. im glad i hadnt built anything up on that system before it toasted
[23:13] <Alyxander> val0, i normally use envy
[23:13] <val0> Alyxander be VERY carefull when you do that
[23:13] <Alyxander> envy?
[23:14] <SlimeyPete> hola: similar but different. The Kubuntu shell is called Bash - you should read about it.
[23:14] <val0> Alyxander it recompiles your X i believe, i destroyed my machine twice because of it :D
[23:14] <muhkuh> can't someone help me with gettin my GUI back (adjusting the xorg.conf + mounting the filesystem which is not in /etc.....)??
[23:14] <SlimeyPete> hola: Unix and Linux "feel" similar though, the general approach is the same
[23:14] <Alyxander> ive used it on this box before with ubuntu and it worked fine i keep hearing the horror stories though lol
[23:14] <Chousuke> hola: "unix" doesn't refer to any single OS nowadays
[23:14] <miladen> Mine says: PCI: failed to allocate mem resource #6: 20000@90000000 for 0000:02.00" and then it just stays like that, doesnt even start linux
[23:14] <Chousuke> hola: you can have UNIX systems that have bash as the default shell
[23:15] <val0> miladen yeh mine does that but still boots, and i can't find anything usefull on the net about it
[23:15] <Chousuke> like the one I'm running right now, OS X 10.5 :P
[23:15] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: I'm currently fighting tooth-and-claw for bash on our Unix boxes
[23:15] <hola> Chousuke: thank you i will see about bash shell
[23:15] <val0> Alyxander yeh horror it is... just make sure that you have X turned off and build_essentials installed
[23:15] <SlimeyPete> it's tricky when you work with old-school unix-heads ;)
[23:15] <miladen> no one seems to know the answer val0 but it almost only appear with ATI cards
[23:15] <Chousuke> it's the de-facto standard on linux.
[23:15] <miladen> ANYone who uses gimpshop?
[23:16] <val0> miladen i have an Nvidia 7600
[23:16] <miladen> ok :S
[23:16] <Chousuke> SlimeyPete: well, don't force it on them. chsh exists :p
[23:16] <miladen> then it shouldnt have a prob??
[23:16] <hydrogen> posix shell is more than enough.
[23:16] <Alyxander> val0, huh? Ive never done that on either system when i used envy
[23:16] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: we use communal user accounts for development
[23:16] <Chousuke> hydrogen: yes. No-one needs tab completion.
[23:16] <SlimeyPete> Chousuke: so chsh would affect them too ;)
[23:16] <Chousuke> hmm
[23:17] <Alyxander> ive only had issues when i try to use the ubuntu restricted manager to install nvidia or ati
[23:17] <Chousuke> just run sh as the base shell and tell them to run their own shell on top of it? :)
[23:17] <SlimeyPete> I can shove bash in my .cshrc (and I do) but it's a bit of a dirty solution ;)
[23:17] <Chousuke> heh.
[23:18] <Chousuke> I've never heard anything good about csh
[23:18] <SlimeyPete> it's horrible.
[23:18] <SlimeyPete> horrible in every way.
[23:18] <Chousuke> yeah, that's what I *have* heard.
[23:25] <miladen> any1 who knows gimpshop
[23:27] <val0> Alyxander it checks for something (can't remember what exectly) and then tells you that you don't have and need to recompile your X and that's where you run into problems
[23:29] <Alyxander> what?
[23:29] <val0> Alyxander ??
[23:29] <muhkuh> does anyone know vim in text mode?
[23:29] <BluesKaj> miladen, from where did you download gimpshop ?
[23:30] <Alyxander> maybe its a kubuntu thing i havent tried yet but... the latest envy get all dependencies for you
[23:30] <Sanne> miladen: here seem to be instructions which might help you: http://gimpshop.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1197574338
[23:30] <muhkuh> i'd need to rename the xorg.conf and delete one of them
[23:30] <miladen> BluesKaj http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[23:31] <Alyxander> oh random thought does compiz work by default or what do i have to do for it?
[23:31] <val0> muhkuh you can rename the files from the command line
[23:31] <muhkuh> no cause i got no X server
[23:31] <val0> Alyxander I tried compiz, really good instructions of the ubuntu forums on how to get it running... didn't need it so now it gone
[23:31] <muhkuh> i want to get my debian system fixed
[23:32] <val0> muhkuh do you have access to the console?
[23:32] <Alyxander> humm i may have to check it out i liked the desktop switching is all I used
[23:32] <muhkuh> not now cause i run a liveCD but when i start debian i just got the text consoole
[23:32] <Alyxander> and when you startx what error do you get
[23:32] <muhkuh> and only vim
[23:33] <muhkuh> something wron with the grapic card
[23:33] <muhkuh> got a ATIraedon9250
[23:33] <Alyxander> what drivers?
[23:33] <muhkuh> i updated my driver
[23:33] <val0> muhkuh do you have a backup xorg.conf file?
[23:34] <muhkuh> then the Xserver restartet by itself
[23:34] <muhkuh> to fix that i reconfiguerd it
[23:34] <muhkuh> and now
[23:34] <muhkuh> it is totaly broken
[23:34] <Alyxander> reconfigure it agian and take all the defaults
[23:34] <muhkuh> i guess so cause theres one named xorg.conf~
[23:36] <muhkuh> got no GUI anymore and if i run dpkg-reconfigure-phigh xserver-xorg that does not work
[23:36] <articpenguin3800> how can i get a programs source code from synaptic
[23:36] <muhkuh> i was allready in the file with vim but did not  know what to do
[23:37] <Dioxin> dont think you can artic
[23:37] <crimsun> articpenguin3800: don't.  Use apt-get source package instead.
[23:37] <muhkuh> tried and tried but no success
[23:37] <crimsun> articpenguin3800: e.g., apt-get source pidgin
[23:37] <miladen> Sanne: didnt really help
[23:37] <articpenguin3800> where does it get stored?
[23:37] <miladen> it doesnt explain how to isntall
[23:37] <iradigalesc> The splash on my 64 bits kubuntu didn't work
[23:37] <Sanne> miladen: sorry, can't help more, never used it myself.
[23:37] <iradigalesc> and it does in the 32 bits version on the same computer
[23:38] <miladen> Sanne: Thx anyways, can you tell me how to remove a app completely?
[23:38] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[23:38] <val0> miladen sudo apt-get remove <name of package>?
[23:38] <Alyxander> miladen, sudo aptitude purge <app name>
[23:38] <miladen> val0 haah didnt think it was that simple
[23:38] <ubbill> what's up?