[00:47] <snap-l> waldo323: You are in on irc
[00:48] <snap-l> waldo323: You are in on irc
[00:48] <waldo323_> yay
[02:35] <jjesse> evening
[02:36] <_stink_> yo
[02:43] <jjesse> on web chat
[02:43] <jjesse> there needs to be some standard on what "high speed" internet means
[02:43] <_stink_> hah
[02:43] <jjesse> QoS per quest
[02:43] <jjesse> Quality of SErvice per quest
[02:43] <jjesse> dang it
[02:43] <jjesse> guest
[02:54] <jjesse> been this quiet all week?
[02:54] <greg-g> pretty talkative during the day today, not sure about what though :)
[02:55] <jjesse> hahaha
[02:56] <jjesse> i'm sure it was fascinating
[03:00] <greg-g> oh of course
[03:40] <snap-l> Evening
[04:01] <rick_h_> ok, keyboard seems cleaned ok
[04:08] <Blazeix> awesome! was it hard to get the keys off/on?
[04:08] <rick_h_> well, the big keys have a metal bar holding them in
[04:09] <rick_h_> so you have to pop them loose, without pulling them off the bar
[04:09] <rick_h_> so those were tricky, the main keys just pop off, it's a bit scary though
[04:13] <widox> rick_h_: did you spill coffee on your keyboard?
[04:14] <rick_h_> earl grey with honey in it :/
[04:14] <rick_h_> not a ton though, so not a full bath
[04:15] <widox> whoops
[04:15] <widox> how was CHC?
[04:15] <widox> wasn't able to make it out :-/
[04:16] <rick_h_> was ok, got started on pgsql fulltext support for bookie, Blazeix did some updates to the badge/chrome extension stuff
[04:16] <rick_h_> and the other matt is having a kid in Oct
[04:16] <rick_h_> crazy
[04:16] <widox> whoa
[04:16] <widox> good stuff then
[04:16] <rick_h_> yea, good stuff
[04:24] <snap-l> rick_h_: so is it unstuck, then?
[04:24] <rick_h_> yea, shift key seems unstuck
[04:25] <snap-l> I just found out something cool about the Squeezebox
[04:25] <snap-l> I can stream to any mp3-streamable device with it
[04:25] <snap-l> just point them to http://lister:9000/stream.mp3, and it'll see it as another device
[04:26] <snap-l> so I have a device called "Mozilla from <IP_ADDRESS>" along with "Happy Radio"
[04:27] <snap-l> only problem is it takes about 30 seconds for it to buffer
[04:27] <rick_h_> ah, sucky
[04:28] <snap-l> but I can have N number of devices streaming
[04:28] <snap-l> Though not all playing the same stream. They're all independent
[04:29] <snap-l> oh, wait, they can be synchronized
[04:34] <snap-l> The syncing is a bit off, though
[04:34] <snap-l> depends on the buffering
[13:27] <wolfger> morning
[13:28] <rick_h_> party
[13:29] <wolfger> is it Friday already?
[13:30] <rick_h_> not yet :(
[13:32] <wolfger> then I'm confused as to why we're partying
[13:47] <brousch> because COFFEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> COFFEEEEEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[13:48] <tjagoda> EEEE
[13:49] <tjagoda> E.
[13:49] <wolfger> Coffee Part > Tea Party
[13:49] <tjagoda> Truth
[13:50] <wolfger> Man, I've been having a lot more problems with typos lately
[13:50]  * wolfger wonders if mental degradation is beginning already
[13:58] <snap-l> u rgubj ura oiaauvkw
[14:00] <wolfger> Stop exercising my brain!
[14:00] <wolfger> :-p
[14:00] <wolfger> or should I say, "dyp[ rcrtvodomh ,u ntsom@
[14:01] <tjagoda> Anybody in here ever worked with Adtran hardware?
[14:01] <brousch> why does that sound familiar?
[14:02] <tjagoda> Its integrated communications hardware
[14:02] <tjagoda> 3 T1's come in to it, one PRI interface is split out of it and the rest is data stream
[14:02] <tjagoda> There is a local telco vendor which uses Adtran instead of Cisco
[14:02] <tjagoda> I do not know if I am comfortable hopping off the Cisco name
[14:03] <brousch> no one ever got fired for buying cisco
[14:04] <tjagoda> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/108908
[14:07] <wolfger> brousch: that just makes me want to form a company and then fire somebody for buying Cisco. :-p
[14:07]  * wolfger is contrarian
[14:10] <snap-l> I think there's a cream for that
[14:13]  * ColonelPanic001 offers some cream
[14:13] <brousch> did someone ask for cream? http://xkcd.com/
[14:14] <ColonelPanic001> nicely done
[14:17] <rick_h_> gah, more sticky keys today. I'm going to have to take a picture, pull all the keys, and give this thing an alcohol bath
[14:19] <brousch> rick_h_: we're talking about cream and comics with goo, and you start complaining about sticky keys?
[14:19] <wolfger> I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky. I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky. I will not ask rick_h_ why his keys are sticky.
[14:19] <brousch> not good. not good at all.
[14:19] <rick_h_> brousch: hah, guess I should start paying attention to you guys :P
[14:21] <Milyardo> rick_h_: I have a problem more with hairy keys than sticky
[14:23] <_stink_> ..
[14:23] <brousch> that is not less disgusting
[14:25] <Milyardo> :(
[14:25] <_stink_> well done everybody!
[14:25] <wolfger> yes it is, actually
[14:25] <wolfger> unless the hairs are *stuck* to the keys
[14:26] <wolfger> but that's an "and", not an "or"
[14:26] <wolfger> _stink_: what did we do well?
[14:26] <rick_h_> waldo323: http://linuxmafia.com/~garrett/jordan/drinking-game.txt
[14:27] <_stink_> wolfger: this conversation
[14:29] <wolfger> rick_h_: what is that?
[14:29] <rick_h_> wolfger: a drinking game built around a series of books waldo323 and I read
[14:29] <wolfger> RJ? WoT? DFS?
[14:30] <rick_h_> RJ == Robert Jordan, WoT == Wheel of Time
[14:30] <wolfger> ah, ok
[14:31] <brousch> ug, i think my step dad read those
[14:32] <wolfger> I got, I think, halfway through either the second or third book before I quit
[14:32] <brousch> way too many plot threads and characters
[14:32] <wolfger> They were good and yet also not good at the same time
[14:32] <rick_h_> at the 3rd? That was one of the best in the series
[14:32] <rick_h_> and it was only 1/3 as large by book 3...maybe even 1/4
[14:33] <brousch> gotta love it. we have a quarterly report that's been run the same way since ~1995. now they say it is wrong and meaningless. way to be on top of it!
[14:33] <wolfger> as I recall, I was really frustrated by the main character never actually doing much of anything other than by luck.
[14:33] <wolfger> I dunno. It's been years.
[14:34] <rick_h_> heh
[14:35] <wolfger> I've also got a stack of books that I haven't even begun reading.
[14:36] <wolfger> The existence of the internet has really doomed my book reading efforts
[14:36] <brousch> i have a physical stack and an ebook stack
[14:41] <Milyardo> The last Arc tech article on Honycomb is pretty disappointing. Why does a Tablet need to have applications rewritten for it just because it has a different screen resolution?
[14:45] <brousch> android apps have defined resolutions
[14:47] <brousch> http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
[14:51] <Milyardo> This states that layouts by default of screen resolution independent, though the expected screen resolutions aren't completely arbitary
[14:51] <Milyardo> *by defualt are
[14:52] <snap-l> I have a lot of books, both physical and virtual that need reading
[14:52] <wolfger> Yeah, I know.
[14:53] <wolfger> I'm still waiting for a book review per week from you, mister.
[15:10] <jrwren> snap-l: do you know Regenerator?  I just listented to what I think is the original of everyone folow, but I'm more familiar with a remix, only i don't know from where is the remix.
[15:10] <snap-l> Not placing it at the moment
[15:59] <snap-l> I <3 conference calls
[16:00] <greg-g> nap time?
[16:00] <snap-l> Hasn't started yet.
[16:08] <wolfger> Gah!!!! Hate CNN. Stabbity stab stab.
[16:09] <wolfger> Not sure why I keep going there for my news. Nothing better, I guess.
[16:09] <wolfger> Which is a shudder-worthy thought.
[16:21] <jrwren> wolfger: fox news.
[16:22] <wolfger> thou shalt not utter the name of such tripe
[16:33] <jrwren> I want to watch fox news so that when I watch Onion News Network it is funnier.
[16:34] <jrwren> wolfger: the political blog upsetting you?
[16:35] <rick_h_> heh, fox news, or fox opinion? need to schedule correctly
[16:35] <jcastro> rick_h_: is dbo's interview out yet?
[16:35] <snap-l> was released yesterday
[16:36] <jrwren> wolfger: why you complain about CNN?
[16:36] <snap-l> jcastro: http://lococast.net/archives/464
[16:36] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, last night
[16:36] <wolfger> jrwren: I avoid reading the political blog. Upset about yet-another-radiation-scare-that's-really-not-anything-to-see-here-please-move-along
[16:37] <wolfger> jrwren: Also a piece about "the female Indiana Jones", who is not an archaeologist, nor does she carry a bullwhip or even wear a fedora.
[16:37] <wolfger> she's not even a professor in her non-adventuring hours
[16:38] <wolfger> in fact, the only facet in which she is similar to Indy is that she travels to exotic countries.

[16:38] <wolfger> I know... a horribly geeky thing to get miffed over.
[16:39] <jrwren> its importatn!
[16:50] <rick_h_> man, sometimes it's so hard not to troll my co-worker
[16:51] <jcastro> rick_h_: listening now
[16:51] <rick_h_> jcastro: heh cool, I've not had a chance yet so hope it comes out ok
[16:53] <wolfger> rick_h_: why avoid the temptation? ;-)
[16:53] <rick_h_> " (btw: I know I can highlight a range in VIM and do replaces in there.. but that's not exactly convenient)"
[16:53] <rick_h_> wtf, how is that not convienent?
[16:53] <snap-l> rick_h_: It requires multiple keystrokes. ;)
[16:54] <rick_h_> this is where the trolling comes in, I know the answer
[16:54] <rick_h_> "because my function is 400 lines long and involved 50 lines of a docblock comment at the start
[16:54] <rick_h_> and 400 is a good one
[17:10] <rick_h_> DBO: ping, you see the interview came out?
[17:10] <rick_h_> sorry for the delay, got it out later last night
[17:12] <DBO> rick_h_, yeah I saw :)
[17:12] <rick_h_> k, awesome
[17:13] <brousch> rick_h_: i listened to the mark ramm interview. very good
[17:13] <rick_h_> brousch: cool, glad you liked it. Thought that one went pretty well
[17:14] <brousch> i can scrape a bunch of questions out of it to ask dave brondsema on monday when he gives an allura presentation to grpug
[17:14] <snap-l> There you go. :)
[17:20] <jrwren> allura?
[17:20] <jrwren> sounds like a drug.
[17:20] <rick_h_> heh, allura == new SF site
[17:21] <rick_h_> http://sourceforge.net/p/allura/home/
[17:21] <jrwren> side effects include erectile disfunction, sweaty palms, coughing, uncontrollable bowls and death.
[17:21] <jrwren> does that include git/hg web ui browsing?
[17:21] <rick_h_> think so
[17:21] <jrwren> hawt.
[17:22] <rick_h_> listen to the interview :P
[17:22] <jrwren> k
[17:22] <rick_h_> http://lococast.net/archives/436
[17:22] <rick_h_> and of course, listen to the rest while you're there: http://lococast.net/tag/interview-2
[17:23] <rick_h_> crap, missing tags
[17:25] <rick_h_> http://lococast.net/category/interview is better
[17:32] <snap-l> Have to say, rick_h_ is rocking these interviews.
[17:37] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/gfmqc/lococastnet_interview_with_jason_smith_from/
[17:42] <jcastro> haha man, great interview guys
[17:42] <jcastro> hilarious
[17:42]  * jcastro just finished it
[17:45] <snap-l> jcastro: awesome. Glad you liked it!
[17:46] <jcastro> I tweeted
[17:46] <jcastro> <3 the music too
[17:46] <jcastro> that must be craig
[17:46] <snap-l> :)
[17:53] <greg-g> hey, thanks for mentioning the UGJ on the lococast, guys!
[17:54] <greg-g> hahah, and I love the special appearance of mrs rick :)
[17:57] <snap-l> heh. ;)
[17:57] <snap-l> Yeah, that was too precious to cut out.
[17:59] <snap-l> jcastro: You need to check out Sekshun 8, Revenge, and Wendigo. They're my go-to balls-n-chunk CC bands.
[18:00] <snap-l> And Sequence the Silence is definitely running up into 4th place.
[18:33] <jrwren> work sucks, at least there is good coffee and good tea.
[18:34] <brousch> jrwren: don't quite before sunday
[18:34] <brousch> or quit either
[18:39] <jrwren> oh no.
[18:39] <jrwren> SRT is awesome. the best even.
[18:39] <jrwren> its just my comptuer being stuoid.
[18:39] <jrwren> driving me insane.
[18:39] <jrwren> I'd make comments about windows7 but I've had crazyness in linux too ;)
[18:40] <jrwren> imagine trying to recompile your code while apt-get upgrading your gcc ;0
[18:43] <snap-l> jrwren: Is this something that happens often? :)
[18:50] <brousch> you compile your code?
[18:50] <brousch> barbaric
[19:01] <binbrain> rick_h_: see your using sphinx for your bookie app, have you tried to tie your rst files into source code yet?
[19:02] <jrwren> snap-l: almost never :)
[19:02] <jrwren> rofl @ uncompiled code.
[19:11] <jrwren> rofl at top comment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3qkQROb_k&NR=1
[19:14] <greg-g> wow, I can't believe I just watched that
[19:14] <binbrain> jrwren: OMG, what is that
[19:15] <binbrain> wonder if that's Oracle's attempt at making Java hip
[19:16] <brousch> it cannot be from oracle. it mentions jerking off
[19:16]  * greg-g nods
[19:27] <brousch> please help me. i can't stop watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k
[19:31] <rick_h_> binbrain: yea, I do that on a few projects using autodoc
[19:33] <binbrain> brousch: that's awesome
[19:33] <binbrain> rick_h_: so I'm missing something, what do you use to embed source code from py files in your docs? viewcode?
[19:34] <rick_h_> no, so sphinx has an autodoc thing where you tell it hte module name it and goes through the module and grabs the docstrings out
[19:34] <rick_h_> when you setup a new sphinx project it's got a config flag it asks you "do you want to use autodoc..."
[19:34] <rick_h_> and then if those docstrings have doctests you can enable that as well, where it runs tests I guess on building the docs
[19:35] <rick_h_> I don't do much doctest stuff
[19:35] <rick_h_> but did use it once to try it out
[19:36] <binbrain> the docstr part I see covered, but what about just the source
[19:36] <rick_h_> oh, actually view the source code in the docs?
[19:36] <binbrain> do you have to put the source right in your rst file?
[19:36] <binbrain> yup
[19:37] <rick_h_> oh no, I mean I've done that in some docstrings
[19:37] <rick_h_> Usage :: (block of code here)
[19:37] <binbrain> right
[19:37] <rick_h_> but no, if you want to see source, go to the source browser
[19:37] <rick_h_> gitweb at work, github on bookie
[19:37] <binbrain> I want Usage :: <link to highlighted example.py>
[19:38] <rick_h_> hmmm, I guess I'd put those files under static, the example
[19:38] <rick_h_> but meh, going to suck since you want highlight, etc
[19:39] <binbrain> well, if a pdf is generated and printed, a source browser of the files doesn't help much
[19:39] <rick_h_> you'll need something else for that I think
[19:39] <rick_h_> yea, you want to have a dir of code, with tests that validate they work
[19:39] <rick_h_> and then you want to run through through the highlight lib, and output .html files of them
[19:39] <binbrain> the tests that validate that code can be totally separated out
[19:39] <rick_h_> then you can link to them under static dir
[19:40] <binbrain> man, ok
[19:40] <binbrain> that seems like work
[19:40] <rick_h_> yea, sphinx doesn't do that
[19:41] <binbrain> have you used viewcode
[19:41] <rick_h_> http://code.google.com/p/gwtwiki/wiki/SourceCode2HTML
[19:41] <binbrain> I think it sounds sorda like it, but I'm not sure, I guess I could just try it :)
[19:41] <rick_h_> no, ah, a plugin
[19:41] <rick_h_> yea, not used that extension
[19:42] <snap-l> That Lady Java video is awful
[19:42] <binbrain> I mean, I could probably use pygments for that
[19:44] <rick_h_> right, but that's all viewcode is doing
[19:44] <rick_h_> looking for the code for the extension
[19:45] <rick_h_> https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/src/69acc55585e9/sphinx/ext/viewcode.py
[19:45] <rick_h_> ok, I lie
[19:46] <rick_h_> no pygments there
[19:48] <Blazeix> vim can convert source code to html
[19:48] <Blazeix> :TOhtml
[19:49] <binbrain> Blazeix, um, that's awesome
[19:49] <rick_h_> yea but seems like something that'd you just have some service with a link to a file
[19:49] <rick_h_> and it'd open it, run it through pygments, and show it to you
[19:50] <rick_h_> one file, with a directory to search in or something
[19:50] <Blazeix> yeah, you could do something like "vim test.py -c TOhtml -c wq -c q"
[19:50] <rick_h_> or since sphinx has a build step, you'd just make your script to dump a dir of code to html in to the sphinx static directory
[19:50] <Blazeix> but it's just a neat hack, you might not want to tie infrastructure to vim
[19:50] <rick_h_> for file in $dir of code
[19:50] <binbrain> Blazeix, your my hero
[19:51] <binbrain> didn't know that
[19:51] <rick_h_> lol
[19:51] <Blazeix> related: http://vpaste.net/
[19:51] <Blazeix> vim-powered pastebin
[19:56] <Blazeix> I'd like to point out that rick_h_'s route is the "correct" way. My route is the "huh, that's unique" way...
[19:59] <rick_h_> hey, that's an awesome "oh shit, I need this in color to put up"
[19:59] <rick_h_> used that myself to open in a browser link
[20:23] <binbrain> rick_h_: you have a way to link to the .html docs that works for latexpdf output? it works for include raw works for html as output, but not latexpdf... hmmm
[20:23] <Blazeix> pygments has a latex output mode, i believe
[20:26] <rick_h_> no, haven't done any latex output
[20:26] <rick_h_> only done one page rst2pdf stuff
[20:50] <binbrain> repoze.bfg docs do what I want, way easier then I thought :)
[20:50] <binbrain> as always
[20:51] <brousch> snap-l: the OMC logo finally popped up in my itunes
[20:51] <snap-l> :)
[20:51] <snap-l> You're welcome. :)
[20:51] <snap-l> I finally figured out how to add it
[20:52] <brousch> lococast is still blank logo
[20:53] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, if you know how to fix it I'd love to know
[20:53] <rick_h_> tried posting to twitter "hey, someone tell me what's long"
[20:53] <rick_h_> the iTunes works, but not in android/etc :(
[20:53] <brousch> rick_h_: i have no clue, but apparently snap-l does
[20:53] <brousch> and i'll tell you what's long ...
[20:54] <snap-l> It has to be embedded into the mp3 file
[20:54] <snap-l> I think that's where it gets the logo from
[20:54] <snap-l> so I need to embed the logo into the next few episodes
[20:54] <rick_h_> oh, well that would explain it then
[20:55] <rick_h_> Man, I spent hours going through the feed xml and such and never could get it to work
[20:55] <snap-l> Yeah, I think that's the reason
[20:55] <snap-l> because I started putting in the OMC logo into the mp3 (and ogg) files
[20:55] <snap-l> around when the Enslaved to Machines interview dropped
[20:57] <snap-l> which was at the beginning of March
[20:57] <snap-l> (damn, time flies when you're having fun)
[20:57] <brousch> yeah, i rarely look at it in itunes so it could have happened a while ago
[20:58] <rick_h_> ok, feel better then. I thought I must be a moron and everyone else had it all figured out
[20:58] <snap-l> rick_h_: You should know by now that you're not a moron. ;)
[20:59] <brousch> none of the other podcasts in my itunes have a logo. omc is the only one right now
[20:59] <brousch> so it's not thet rick_h_ is a moron, it's that snap-l is a genius
[21:00] <snap-l> brousch: You're lucky I'm not drinking anything, or you would have owed me a keyboard
[21:00] <rick_h_> hah!
[21:01] <rick_h_> that's why I let him edit
[21:01] <brousch> or maybe he just intimately understands the way apple works …
[21:01] <rick_h_> now I find out he's been sandbagging on lococast :P
[21:01] <krondor> jcastro:  seen the neon skin since the 10.1 xbmc update?
[21:03] <jcastro> no, should I?
[21:03] <jcastro> is it awesome?
[21:03] <krondor> check it out, looks interesting to me.  http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=97792
[21:04] <krondor> just got added to the official skin list, I think there was a beta of it in github for a bit
[21:06] <jcastro> oh I think I did try this
[21:06] <jcastro> that tv grid looks awesome
[21:12] <krondor> yeah, I was going to try messing with it and Cinema plugin.


[00:47] <redblade> it appears to be connected somehow to these "apparmor" errors i get when freshclam and/or telepathy-haze are installed
[00:47] <redblade> the errors are in dmesg
[02:26] <redblade> well i wound up removing telepathy-haze as i dont know what it is, and moving freshclam to cron, and everything seems to work now
[05:15] <Sauna> Steam. It installed and updated. But now it won't launch. And all the terminal says is "An X error occurred: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"
[05:17] <Sauna> Yeah..
[09:36] <cgt> I just upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10 and now the network manager icon is showing up in both the "notification area" and the "indicator plugin" on the xfce panel. Any idea about how to fix this so it only shows *one* icon for network manager?
[10:17] <Fernando-Basso> cgt: right click the panel --> panel preferences and check the items tab.
[10:18] <Fernando-Basso> Perhaps something is added twice after the upgrade.
[10:18] <Fernando-Basso> (I did not have the chance to upgrad yet)
[10:19] <cgt> Yeah I already tried that. There's one notification area and one indicator plugin, and it seems that nm-applet shows up in both of them. I also checked that I do not have more than one nm-applet running.
[10:35] <cgt> The nm-applet issue seems to have resolved itself after _another_ reboot.
[13:24] <morf> hi
[13:29] <morf> i have installed xubuntu-core only, but the shutdown etc buttons in xfce4-session-logout are greyed... i'm missing some package, because when i install indicator-power it's ok
[13:29] <morf> could somebody help me / tell me what package does this exactly? (the indicator-power install like 200-400 another packages... :/)
[13:55] <morf> hm hm got it
[14:13] <newuser_> Hey, I have a question re: what programs are available on install with Xubuntu. Specifically, what internet browser(s)?
[14:13] <newuser_> I am not sure how to find this info.
[14:25] <GridCube> newuser_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xubuntu-desktop
[17:01] <Brontex> Hi. I'm having trouble with a root owned "folder" in my home directory. It's .gvfs -- which I understand is a mount point, and not really a folder. I've tried to chown $USER it, but it's not working.
[18:19] <diskord> Could i install nvidia driver without xorg?
[19:55] <intherye> finally I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04. all went smooth. thanks for the great work @all devs an contributors! Xubuntu is a great distro!
[20:02] <equilibrium> hello how to use skype on xubuntu?
[20:02] <equilibrium> the skype that worked for 16.04 not working on 16.10
[20:36] <Unit193> equilibrium: It's in the partner repos, should be able to pick it up out of there.
[20:36] <Unit193> !info skype-bin partner
[21:31] <equilibrium> soh
[21:31] <equilibrium> hello how to use skype on xubuntu?
[21:33] <xubuntu42w> hello
[21:34] <xubuntu42w> could use a hand with one thing :o
[21:35] <Spass> equilibrium: do you have Skype installed right now?
[21:35] <equilibrium> i'm checking this
[21:36] <equilibrium> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[21:36] <equilibrium> seems to be working
[21:36] <xubuntu42w> if someone could tell me how to disable my memory lock, that would be swell!
[21:42] <zeioth> equilibrium you can download the new alpha version from here: https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading-web/?type=weblinux-deb
[21:43] <zeioth> it only have video support for calls linux to linux
[21:43] <zeioth> but they will fix that in the next weeks
[21:43] <equilibrium> ok
[21:44] <equilibrium> it's just me or the software center keeps loading and loading forever?
[21:44] <zeioth> when you install something?
[21:45] <equilibrium> when i'm searching
[21:45] <equilibrium> maybe a reboot will solve it
[21:47] <zeioth> probably, it's working fine for me
[21:51] <equilibrium> don't be fool
[21:51] <equilibrium> xubuntu is cool


[02:46] <axw> wallyworld: can you please take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8011
[02:46] <axw> jam: when you're on, ^^ workaround to upgrade lease docs
[04:37] <jam> wallyworld_: did we lose you ?
[05:31] <axw> jam: are you able to share your ubuntu-lite charm? looks to be private. I'd like to try to repro the FD leak thing
[05:31] <axw> coming up empty when lookiung through the code
[05:32] <jam> axw: so I've done charm push and charm release, do you know what the next thing is to make it more public?
[05:33] <axw> jam: I think you need to "charm grant", just not sure what args atm
[05:34] <jam> looks like just "charm grant CHARM everyone"
[05:34] <axw> yup
[05:35] <jam> axw: fwiw, you can do it just fine with just "juju deploy ubuntu" over and over again, but I should have granted read to everyone on the charms involved
[05:36] <axw> jam: ok. I can access now, thanks
[09:05] <axw> jam: so I foolishly tried to run the test on azure, forgetting about container networking. tried to force the issue with lxd, adding a "wrench" in the lease manager - no leak. so I guess it only shows up when there's a lot of agents.  I did find a rather big issue with the singular/leadership apiserver calls
[09:05] <jam> axw: k. it only happened before your patch to clean up leases
[09:06] <jam> axw: want me to investigate?
[09:06] <axw> jam: if you're able to, that would be great
[09:06] <jam> just doing a deploy with old and upgrade to sligtly older than current should be enough to trigger it
[09:06] <jam> actually, upgrading to beta2 final, right?
[09:06] <jam> axw: what's the apiserver calls issue?
[09:06] <axw> jam: yeah I think so
[09:07] <axw> jam: the issue I found: the SingularClaimer and LeadershipClaimer methods on State return the worker *at that time*, they don't automatically use the internally restarted one
[09:07] <axw> jam: and the API server facades bind that at connection time...
[09:07] <axw> jam: so if you don't disconnect the API, you'll keep getting the same broken claimer
[09:07] <jam> gotcha
[09:08] <jam> you have a patch for that, or want me to look at the same time?
[09:08] <axw> jam: I'm working on a patch, might only get as far as WIP though. I'll let you know later on
[10:02] <axw> jam: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8014, couldn't come up with a decent way to test it, the SetClock.. thing is a bit kludgey. I've gtg shortly, feel free to take and improve if you're not keen on that
[10:08] <jam> k, have a good weekend
[10:09] <jam> I had to do something similar for PingBatcher, I'll see how it compares
[22:17] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: hey, do we support migrating models with cross-model relations now?
[22:27] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: babbageclunk: could u plz rubber-stamp 1-line change? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8016
[22:28] <babbageclunk> anastasiamac: approved!
[22:28] <anastasiamac> babbageclunk: \o/
[22:34] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh ignore me, I remember now - we support exporting them (for dump-model) but not importing.
[23:06] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: we don't support importing models with offers
[23:10] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: thanks - got confused/worried about whether we allowed migrations with CMR
[23:11] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yeah, we don't support migrating models with offers (yet) because we have no way of updating consuming models that the offer location has changed
[23:11] <babbageclunk> makes sense
[23:11] <wallyworld> we need to solve that though, but had to draw the line somewhere
[23:31] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Can you review this please? It's the relationscopes precheck: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8018
[23:31] <wallyworld> sure
[23:32] <babbageclunk> ta


[01:51] <markus_> hy everybody
[01:54] <DasKreech> hi
[02:55] <jameslord> hello
[02:56] <jameslord> i have problem relate to vnc
[02:56] <bazhang> jameslord, you are already asking in #ubuntu
[02:56] <jameslord> when i connect to ip:0 , the destop is grey, why?
[02:57] <jameslord> bazhang dude, i am using kubuntu, maybe there should be some kubuntu specific config, understand?
[02:57] <bazhang> jameslord, please dont crosspost to multiple channels, thanks
[03:00] <jameslord> bazhang dude, different questions, understand?
[04:17] <Fanfare> Q: How do i REinstall a package? New download+new install.
[04:41] <master> -
[04:42] <jameslord1> help
[04:42] <master> with
[04:42] <jameslord1> Font directory '/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/' not found
[04:42] <jameslord1> what's wrong?
[04:43] <master> has to be downloaded
[04:45] <jameslord1> master how to download it ?
[04:45] <jameslord1> master should i install some package?
[04:51] <DasKreech> jameslord1: Master?
[04:51] <DasKreech> Oh
[04:51] <acidrain> lol
[04:51] <DasKreech> fonts
[04:51] <acidrain> download fonts
[04:52] <DasKreech> Hmm
[04:53] <danix803> how do I find out about new things coming out??? before U write about them... That way I can test drive them and write something about them... I have VBox setup with Windows XP Pro and Windows ME... I can build others if necessary... except I can't seem to build a Mac OS... But, I'm still working on that...
[04:53] <jameslord1> acidrain how to download fonts, dude i donot know what is the package
[04:53] <DasKreech> jameslord1: Do you have apt-file installed?
[04:54] <jameslord> DasKreech yes
[04:54] <danix803> Yes... I can apt-get install stuff... LOL
[04:54] <acidrain> font come from google
[04:54] <DasKreech> jameslord: try apt-file search 75dpi
[04:54] <danix803> Oooppss.. sorry... I didn't mean to interrupt...
[04:55] <DasKreech> danix803: Wht new things?
[04:55] <danix803> Uhm... new features... new apps... etc...
[04:56] <jameslord> DasKreech what a hell, so much .gz:(
[04:56] <jameslord> DasKreech how to install them?
[04:57] <DasKreech> jameslord: can you pastebin that output?
[04:58] <DasKreech> danix803: what would you consider new features?
[04:59] <danix803> Helping with the weather widget in Kubuntu... it doesn't have my location on it... it seems to be very limited...
[04:59] <danix803> building drivers...
[05:00] <DasKreech> danix803: Ah you want to get involved upstream
[05:00] <danix803> What is upstream???
[05:01] <danix803> There is something that I really need... I've been working on it for about four months...
[05:01] <DasKreech> danix803: in projects you have work that is done before where you interact with it
[05:01] <DasKreech> That's called upstream
[05:01] <DasKreech> For Kubuntu Upstream would be KDE
[05:04] <danix803> I don't understand that... "have work that is done before where you interact with it??? I'm confused...
[05:04] <danix803> I really, really like KDE...
[05:04] <danix803> My uncle Gil is deaf as a bat... He was in the Korean war... He worked on munitions... I've been trying to work on getting the speech-to-text system to work... like subtitles... He wants to be able to read what people are saying to him... It's been very difficult... there are tons and tons of text-to-speech programs... but, speech-to-text is rare... and often expensive...
[05:05] <danix803> I tried putting it on a Dell D800... but it's too slow... So, I got a Dell D820... Now, I just need to find of make a program that can do the job...
[05:05] <danix803> I tried using the MS speech engine, but, it's too slow and very, very unreliable...
[05:06] <danix803> it types all kindsa' crazy stuff...
[05:06] <danix803> Could also be the microphone I'm using... LOL...
[05:06] <danix803> I'll try that next...
[05:06] <DasKreech> danix803: Kubuntu is a project. But it uses work from anther project
[05:07] <DasKreech> which for Kubuntu the major project it uses is KDE
[05:07] <danix803> I thought that Kubuntu was a KDE faction of Ubuntu???
[05:07] <DasKreech>  so KDE is upstream to kubuntu
[05:07] <danix803> So, how do I get into the upstream???
[05:07] <DasKreech> KDE makes use of the work of the project Qt. So Qt is upstream to KDE
[05:07] <DasKreech> etc
[05:08] <DasKreech> If you have to wait on another project to finish work before you can make use of it then it's upstream to you
[05:08] <danix803> I have difficulty working with Qt... I like KDevelop...
[05:08] <DasKreech> danix803: That's fine :)
[05:09] <danix803> What 'other project' RU waiting on???
[05:09] <DasKreech> danix803: If you want to work with a Project just ask
[05:09] <DasKreech> danix803: Well if you are working with KDE then you don't have to wait on a lot :)
[05:10] <danix803> Which projects are available to be worked on...  I'm reading that channel now... lookin' 4 a place 2 get in...
[05:12] <danix803> What does DasKreech mean???
[05:14] <jameslord> help:(
[05:14] <danix803> What do U need help with jameslord???
[05:15] <jameslord> danix803 what's wrong with vnc? http://paste.ubuntu.com/856166/
[05:16] <danix803> I don't understand... Who is using VNC??? Where do I paste that???
[05:16] <jameslord> hell
[05:17] <danix803> I pasted it into mozilla... interesting...
[05:17] <danix803> xrdb: No such file or directory
[05:17] <danix803> xrdb: can't open file '/home/jack/.Xresources'
[05:18] <danix803> Whose computer RU trying to take over with VNC???
[05:19] <DasKreech> danix803: It's my nick name IRL
[05:20] <DasKreech> jameslord: Where is x81? that's what it's trying to connect to
[05:20] <danix803> I don't understand about your nickname???  I boost 'em as much as possible... load Kubuntu on them... and give them away... My biggest problems are printer drivers... the people I give them to want to connect printers to them... and most times it's not a plug and play event... LOL... anyway... going to bed... You've given me a lot to think about... thanks... ttyl...
[05:28] <DasKreech> danix803: HP printers I would presume?
[05:30] <L3top> Anybody particularly farmiliar with mastering live cds? (ubiquity preseed problem)
[05:31] <DasKreech> I'm not but  #ubuntu-devel might be a good place to ask questions
[05:31] <L3top> ty.
[05:34] <jameslord> http://i.imgur.com/JQMtw.png what's wrong when i connect to remote pc using vnc
[05:44] <jameslord> what a hell
[05:44] <jameslord> what destop icon wizard do
[05:45] <jameslord> i hate that disgusting function, which hosted itself as a bullshit on the right  corner of my screen
[05:46] <igor_> hello
[05:46] <igor_> hello
[05:46] <jameslord> hell
[05:47] <jameslord> god, i need help:)
[05:47] <igor_i> i am havinga problem in irc, as soon as i connect it says nick is already in use
[05:48] <igor_i> so i have to choose a different name
[05:48] <DasKreech> hi igor_i
[05:48] <DasKreech> igor_i: So choose a different name
[05:48] <DasKreech> jameslord: what vnc server are you running?
[05:48] <igor_i> i did
[05:48] <jameslord> DasKreech vncserver
[05:49] <DasKreech> jameslord: And it works but you have strange  things happeneing?
[05:49] <igor_i> the problem is i cant log into certain channels cause i forgot my pasword or else i'm typing it wrong
[05:49] <jameslord> DasKreech TightVNC Server version 1.3.9
[05:49] <DasKreech> igor_i: #freenode
[05:49] <jameslord> DasKreech dude, see this pic, http://i.imgur.com/JQMtw.png
[05:50] <igor_i> can they help me in there?
[05:52] <DasKreech> jameslord: and I presume that clicking that section of the windoww has no reaction ?
[05:52] <DasKreech> granted I'd just be using Ctrl+Q anyway
[05:52] <DasKreech> igor_i: Better than anyone here regarding password failure
[05:56] <jameslord> DasKreech it can react to my click operation, but i cannot see that button, dude, it's a hell, i am hurt:(
[05:57] <DasKreech> jameslord: Not sure what's doing that. Do you hve  compositing on? That may be cached out
[05:58] <jameslord> DasKreech i have 4g memory
[06:03] <jameslord> omg, how to fix this problem
[06:04] <artao> ahoy!!
[06:05] <artao> I've got a dual-head setup and kinda need to apply seperate ICC profiles to each monitor. I've already generated the respective profiles for each monitor, but now don't know what to do with them.
[06:05] <artao> my secondary monitor is in SERIOUS need of gamma correction .. and i do CGI work so it really is rather important for my purposes
[06:08] <DasKreech> jameslord: #kwin or #tightvnc I would guess
[06:08] <DasKreech> artao: colord ?
[06:09] <artao> never heard of colord
[06:09] <DasKreech> It's new ;)
[06:09] <artao> i c
[06:09] <artao> just googled it
[06:11] <jameslord> after install gnome-session , i cannot connect my vncserver now, why?
[06:12] <artao> gui? i was hoping i was just missing "where" to enter the profile to load for each monitor
[06:12] <artao> reading wikipedias "Linux Color Management" section ...
[06:22] <jschall> so, on my kubuntu laptop, the regulatory domain on my wifi was set to 00, instead of US... i set it to US using "iw reg set US" but will this change be permanent? if not, how do i make it permanent? shouldn't kubuntu be setting it correctly based on the time zone i select?
[06:24] <DasKreech> jameslord: possible that you are running a gnome session on the display that VNC was using before
[06:32] <Frus> I'm a gnome ubuntu user but am new to kubuntu. I would like to reset the kubuntu desktop (kde?) to original settings before i changed anything. Is there a way to do this?
[06:33] <DasKreech> Frus: You mean just the desktop ?
[06:34] <Frus> yes dashavoo_
[06:34] <Frus> yes DasKreech
[06:39] <DasKreech> Frus: mkdir ~/plasmabkup; kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 3 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plas* ~/plasmabkup && plasma-desktop&
[08:35] <artao> i give up for tonite .. learned of KolorManager, but don't seem to it nor can i find in in repos
[08:35] <artao> did find a console command colormgr i have, but couldn't figure out how to use it
[08:35] <artao> colord appears to be installed, but again i don't know how to use it
[08:36] <artao> frustrated. stopping.
[10:00] <aussie_matt> hi all, can anyone help me mount my raid array please? dmraid -ay finds it and lists two devices in /dev/mapper....Which device do i mount?
[11:05] <fille> anyone know  anything about the bumblebee for optimus ubuntu?
[12:41] <markus_> moin
[12:58] <anqxyr> Hello. Can anyone help me with a little problem?
[13:00] <liudas> what is your problem?
[13:00] <anqxyr> I can't edit some text files. File permissions are set correctly, and even editing as root don't work. Copying the content of the file into a newly created one, then deleting the original works, but I'd like to figure out what's the problem is.
[13:01] <liudas> what kind of files?
[13:02] <liudas> and what editor u use for editing?
[13:03] <anqxyr> plain text files. Currently the problem is with a DF init file, but a few days ago I had the same problem with another, unrelated, file, also plain text. The editor is Kate
[13:04] <liudas> any error notification when trying to save?
[13:04] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[13:05] <anqxyr> Kate simply don't allow me to make any change to the file, so it won't save it since it's unchanged
[13:06] <anqxyr> actually, let me try to open it on LibreOffice and see what it would do
[13:07] <liudas> anqxyr: start kate as su: sudo kate. open file, make changes, try to save. if it works - you have wrong file permitions. ofcourse make backup befor
[13:08] <anqxyr> oh, it looks like I found the problem
[13:09] <anqxyr> Office changed and saved the file just fine, and when I opened it in Kate again, it said
[13:10] <anqxyr> "bla bla bla, contained too long lines (more than 1024 characters) bla bla bla set to read-only mode, as saving will modify its content"
[13:10] <peace> anqxyr: ok go in options of kate and set this stuff :D i hate this too
[13:10] <peace> anqxyr: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopXW1826.png
[13:11] <anqxyr> thanks. The strange part is that it didn't say anything before
[13:12] <peace> y are welcome
[13:12] <anqxyr> aaand it didn't work
[13:12] <peace> anqxyr: you need to restart kate
[13:12] <peace> i guess
[13:12] <go^> peace, a cosa serve la scorciatoia win+tab?
[13:12] <peace> go^: wtf english
[13:12] <go^> mi leva tutte le finestre...
[13:13] <go^> peace, massì ;)
[13:13] <peace> ..
[13:13] <anqxyr> it don't complain anymore, but I still can't edit the file, and restarting didn't help
[13:14] <anqxyr> but at least now I know that it's Kate problem
[13:14] <peace> mm
[13:14] <peace> strange
[13:15] <DoctorPepper> can anyone please help  me , nepomuk is acting strange on my laptop. after  indexing  is finished  the file indexer  goes idle  after  a few minutes   i get the the following  "file indexing service not running
[13:16] <anqxyr> and looks like this is a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/541630
[13:16] <peace> DoctorPepper: try with a new user
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:16] <peace> DoctorPepper: maybe resetting configs could help
[13:16] <peace> DoctorPepper: so you could test a new user or rename ~/.kde
[13:28] <DoctorPepper> peace:  with a new user  i get the same message  but the file indexing  not happen before  getting the message
[13:29] <peace> DoctorPepper: mm kde version ?
[13:29] <DoctorPepper> 4.8
[13:30] <peace> 11.10?
[13:30] <DoctorPepper> yes
[13:30] <peace> DoctorPepper: ask on  #kde or fill a bug report
[13:30] <DoctorPepper> ok thanks
[15:45] <designbybeck> hello all. in Ubuntu you can switch between keyboard layouts and switch between them with a keystroke. I have found out how to do this in Kubuntu as well. But one feature I can't find that I liked in Ubuntus keyboards... was the ablility to see an actual pdf of the keyboard layouts for other languages. Is there something like that for Kubunut/KDE?
[15:58] <jussi> designbybeck: curious - In ubiquity I know we have the option to see it (at install time) but after that I cant see anythign
[16:00] <designbybeck> ah yess jussi, i guess you do see it at install
[16:00] <designbybeck> i remember ubuntu having it in the systray, you could click on the keyboard switcher and select a layout and view the keys and such and it allowed you to print it even
[16:03] <peace> designbybeck: there is a widget to see the layout
[16:03] <peace> but i dunno if it's what you watn
[16:04] <designbybeck> hmm that is a lil' closer peace
[16:05] <peace> designbybeck: this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopRc1826.png
[16:06] <designbybeck> again that is close to what ubuntu had
[16:06] <designbybeck> but they had when you went into it  you could pull up a pdf so you could print it out
[16:06] <designbybeck> the keyboard widget is pretty much it
[16:06] <designbybeck> so you can at least see what keys go with what
[16:06] <designbybeck> but you can't print it
[16:07] <peace> print?
[16:07] <designbybeck> yes
[16:07] <peace> just change the layouyt with the widget
[16:07] <peace> and you will print with your selected languages
[16:07] <peace> layout
[16:07] <designbybeck> i'm thinking for an education classroom that teaches langauge, so you could print it out poster size for everyone to see
[16:08] <designbybeck> so in other words i'm looking for a way to print out the keyboard layout of a number of languages so people can see what letters and keys to push for other languages
[16:09] <peace> designbybeck: i use kde as windows ... just clickin on the widget you can select the layout
[16:09] <designbybeck> right, and that is workign ffor me, it doesn't seem you can type with that widget
[16:09] <designbybeck> like an on screen keyboard, that would be nice, but at least we can use that for them to see the keys
[16:10] <peace> ασδφασδφασδ
[16:10] <peace> xD
[16:10] <designbybeck> heehee
[16:10] <designbybeck> that is all greek to me! LOL
[16:11] <peace> designbybeck: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopyn4809.png
[16:11] <peace> designbybeck: i have click one time on the widget P=> italian
[16:11] <peace> second time => greek
[16:12] <vic> ???
[16:12] <vic> hello everyone
[16:12] <peace> vic: hi
[16:12] <peace> designbybeck: i can' tundestand well your problem
[16:13] <vic> hi, peaceful peace
[16:13] <designbybeck> peace:  it is working for me as far as being able to change languages and such
[16:14] <designbybeck> and i can view the layout in the widget, lathough aribic doesn't look like it is working int he keyboard widget,
[16:14] <peace> designbybeck: you have even the keyboard widget look http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopos4809.png
[16:14] <designbybeck> but i was also looking for something like ubuntu had that pulls up the Keyboard Layout in a PDF form so you can print it
[16:15] <peace> pdf ?
[16:15] <peace> :S
[16:15] <designbybeck> yes so that you can print nice vector graphics
[16:15] <designbybeck> but this gets me going at least ;) Thanks for the help peace
[16:16] <Avihay> designbybeck: try kvkbd
[16:18] <Avihay> you can use ksnapshot to convert it into an image
[16:21] <BluesKaj> ok , BBL ...
[16:21] <peace> Avihay: but this is karbon ... i can't figure out what he is looking for http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopWx4809.png
[16:38] <yurikoles> is there any devs?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yurikoles, not here , try #kubuntu-devel
[16:51] <yurikoles> thanks
[17:10] <Ratchetman> My dependancys got messed up in  a full system upgrade (Muon... I know now it doesn't work so well) Can someone tell me how to fix it?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman, reboot in order to kill Muon (it's buggy atm) , the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in he terminal, after the upgrade muon shouldn't hang anymore
[17:13] <BluesKaj> err then, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:17] <Ratchetman>  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:17] <Ratchetman> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[17:17] <Ratchetman> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:17] <Ratchetman> What does this mean Blueskaj
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  that means you have an ppa repository that's no longer valid on this OS , just go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d with root permissions and remove it
[17:20] <Ratchetman> How do I get root permission. It won't even let me into apt directory
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  alt+f2 , then kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:21] <Ratchetman> Oh duh.
[17:22] <Ratchetman> The whole folder?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman, it should just be a text file with sevenmachines in the title
[17:23] <meduser> hello, is this the Kubuntu irc? I am a newbie looking for some help
[17:24] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list
[17:24] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade
[17:24] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list.save
[17:24] <Ratchetman> Those are my text files
[17:25] <meduser> I am looking for some help on making a playable DVD from an ISO file
[17:25] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  /etc/apt/sources.list.d , don't forget the  .d
[17:25] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list.d/sevenmachines-flash-natty.list
[17:25] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list.d/sevenmachines-flash-natty.list.distUpgrade
[17:25] <Ratchetman> file:///etc/apt/sources.list.d/sevenmachines-flash-natty.list.save
[17:25] <Ratchetman> These ones?
[17:25] <FloodBotK1> Ratchetman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <Ratchetman> monkey31
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  what path are you using to those files you just listed ?
[17:30] <Ratchetman> kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  remove the sevenmachines file
[17:30] <BluesKaj> werr files
[17:30] <BluesKaj> the sevenmachines files are the the troublesome ppas
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman, ^
[17:31] <Ratchetman> Ok thank you
[17:32] <Ratchetman> That got me back to the dependancy issue.
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  then run your update/upgrades
[17:32] <Ratchetman> I got a really long list of dependancies unmet list
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ok, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:33] <Ratchetman> Processing was halted because there were too many errors
[17:35] <BluesKaj> you didn't start muon I hope , or the update manager which is part of muon
[17:36] <Ratchetman> No
[17:36] <Ratchetman> What's the command to see processes running?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> did you reboot as I suggested earlier?
[17:37] <Ratchetman> I rebooted before going on quassel
[17:37] <BluesKaj> atop
[17:37] <Ratchetman> Ok I'm going to try another reboot be back in 4 min
[17:37] <meduser> anybody that can help a newbie would be greatly appreciated
[17:38] <BluesKaj> meduser,  just ask your question , we'll help if we can
[17:39] <meduser> I am trying to burn a dvd, I have converted the ripped file to an iso, but the dvd player says it cannot play
[17:40] <meduser> sees it as a DVD-r, my Sony player can play burnt disks with no issues
[17:41] <DarthFrog> meduser: Put the disk in your computer and see if there are VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directories on the disk.  Or is there an ISO file on the disk.
[17:41] <Ratchetman> ok trying config again
[17:41] <meduser> I used Devede to convert, and tried K3B to write, and all I am getting
[17:42] <BluesKaj> meduser,  did you convert the file to another codec while ripping it , if so the the iso might not work
[17:42] <Ratchetman> Processing was halted because there were too many errors. Again
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman, are you just updating or ?
[17:43] <DarthFrog> meduser: it doesn't matter what you used, what matters is what you got.
[17:43] <Ratchetman> Full system upgrade
[17:43] <meduser> I converted to iso from avi, and then ran K3b to burn the disk. the burning process took like 6 minutes to complete. The disk I insert has 13 files in the video folder, and nothing in the audio folder
[17:44] <BluesKaj> upgrade to oneiric from natty . Ratchetman ?
[17:44] <Ratchetman> I've had oneiric for a month or two
[17:44] <meduser> 6 of those files end in vob, 3 end in ifo, and 3 end in bup
[17:45] <Ratchetman> I saw there were lib files that were available for upgrade
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  then get rid of all the natty files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:46] <BluesKaj> and the sources.list repos debs as well
[17:47] <DarthFrog> meduser: Can you play that DVD on your computer?
[17:47] <Ratchetman> I dumped the whole folder. Nothing said oneiric.
[17:47] <Ratchetman> Directory is still there but it's emptied
[17:48] <BluesKaj> not oneiric , just natty
[17:48] <Ratchetman> Yeah I got rid of natty and maverick.
[17:48] <Ratchetman> shouldn't I have oneiric in there?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> oneiric in /etc/apt/sources.list , yes
[17:49] <Ratchetman> I don't have any.
[17:49] <Ratchetman> How do I get them?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:51] <Ratchetman> Thank's Blues! You're being very helpful.
[17:52] <Ratchetman> Should I select all repositories?
[17:53] <BluesKaj> yes, if you want 3rd party software available etc
[17:59] <Ratchetman> Hmmm...
[18:00] <BluesKaj> BBL, gotta push some snow for 30 mins or so ..
[18:02] <meduser> @Darthfrog....no, all it does is go to the title screen which is 37 seconds long, and that is it
[18:02] <DarthFrog> meduser: Re-do the project.
[18:03] <meduser> I have redone it 4x, with the same end result. The avi works perfectly in VLC
[18:04] <DarthFrog> meduser: User a different program to make the ISO.
[18:04] <DarthFrog> Use, not user. :-)
[18:04] <meduser> It is obviously something I am doing. I am new to Kubuntu, and have never had issues using nero in a windows environment
[18:05] <meduser> I used devede to create the iso, as I was told it was the best one to use
[18:05] <DarthFrog> Don't know, never done that.
[18:05] <DarthFrog> I use MythTV. to make DVDs.
[18:06] <meduser> is that a download, or online
[18:06] <DarthFrog> Read http://www.mythtv.org first.  It's a major undertaking.
[18:06] <meduser> everything seems to be in Kubuntu..lol
[18:07] <meduser> I have to say, it seems a lot easier in Windows,Open file, click burn, insert and watch
[18:07] <DarthFrog> meduser: Kubuntu is a derivative of Ubuntu which in turn is a derivative of Debian.  There are over 14,000 software packages available.
[18:08] <meduser> I know, I have been going throught them...lol
[18:08] <DarthFrog> meduser: Perhaps, but using Linux means you don't have to surrender your soul.
[18:09] <meduser> I know, and that is why I am here. I really want to learn how to do everything. I have packed up from windows, and don't want to go back.
[18:10] <meduser> Everything I have read says to use devede to make the files, and K3b to burn the disk. I tried last night with both the iso, and creating video and audio files in devede, same result
[18:21] <meduser> anyone have any ideas? I know devede can work, and so does k3b
[18:30] <yurikoles> meduser: install package mythtv
[18:31] <BluesKaj> meduser,  have you tried k9copy , it rpis and encodes to dvd format , then you just burn toi disk
[18:31] <BluesKaj> yurikoles,  mythtv is for tv feeds not dvd
[18:32] <meduser> I'll try both. Thank you
[18:32] <BluesKaj> meduser,  don't install mythtv
[18:33] <meduser> at BluesKaj ...I went to their website , and it seemed that way.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> unless you have a tv tuner card'
[18:33] <meduser> no, I don't
[18:33] <BluesKaj> that's what mythtv does
[18:33] <Ratchetman> Hey Blue, got the updates done.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  cool , glad to hear it
[18:34] <Ratchetman> Thanks again. Now I don't have working sound @.@
[18:35] <Ratchetman> lol I can't get a break here.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  ok open alsamixer in the terminal , set up your vol ctrls for inputs and out puts there and use the M key to unmute any boxes with MM
[18:36] <meduser> I have not tried k9yet..I can use that from anAVI file?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> use the arrow keys to navigate and increase vol on the ctrls
[18:37] <BluesKaj> meduser,  yes , sudo apt-get install k9copy , in thew terminal
[18:40] <meduser> Thanks blue. Just gotit but have to restart..I'll be back
[18:41] <Ratchetman> Blueskaj comp locked up on me when I terminated my frozen phonon
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  what audio chip is listed in alsamixer , in the top left ?
[18:45] <Ratchetman> How do I run that?
[18:45] <Ratchetman> I only know phonon
[18:45] <BluesKaj> type alsamixer in the trerminal
[18:46] <Ratchetman> CA0106
[18:46] <BluesKaj> ok Ratchetman now, set up your vol ctrls for inputs and out puts there and use the M key to unmute any boxes with MM
[18:46] <GH0> How can I get x0vncserver to automatically start during system boot up? I would like to be able to connect to the VNC Server prior to logging into the system.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  use the arrow keys to navigate and increase vol on the ctrls
[18:47] <Ratchetman> That's done
[18:48] <GH0> I attempted to use /etc/rc.local with the following line "/usr/bin/x0vncserver&" however that isn't launching the program.
[18:48] <Ratchetman> Fixed!
[18:49] <meduser> so tried to run k9..crashed right away
[18:49] <Ratchetman> Whew! I've learned a lot today!
[18:49] <BluesKaj> Ratchetman,  good
[18:49] <BluesKaj> meduser,  how did it crash,  when you set up the avi file or ?
[18:51] <meduser> I opened k9DVD backup..I have 3 choices, dvd drive, folder or iso, I chose folder, hit next and it crashed
[18:53] <Ratchetman> Muchos Gracias BlueKaj
[18:53] <BluesKaj> meduser,  open the folder then choose
[18:57] <meduser> Executable: k9copy PID: 2312 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[18:57] <meduser> crash #2
[18:58] <BluesKaj> meduser,  have you updated / upgraded lately ?
[18:58] <meduser> yes this am
[18:58] <BluesKaj> meduser,  make sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[18:58] <meduser> it is
[18:59] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[19:00] <meduser> try that instead? I have tried that before, and K3b would not write it
[19:03] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | meduser
[19:04] <BluesKaj> meduser,  the avi file may have a codec not available in your libs , that's whay I' suggesting medibuntu
[19:05] <zelhar> Hello, can i get assistance ?
[19:05] <peace> zelhar: just ask
[19:06] <zelhar> I have a problem with kde power manger- it sometimes - many times - doesn't turn off the screen after the set time lapses
[19:07] <peace> zelhar: NVIDIA ati or intel ?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> zelhar,  laptop?
[19:07] <zelhar> moreover if I set the time to 1 minutes it seems to work but if set higher value like 5 or more minutes the screen never goes off
[19:08] <zelhar> desktop with ATI
[19:10] <peace> zelhar: if you have set well the power manager it could be a driver issue
[19:10] <zelhar> is that a known issue ?
[19:10] <peace> zelhar:  .... it depends you know how many models are out there?
[19:11] <peace> zelhar: try with a different driver
[19:11] <peace> test it
[19:11] <zelhar> any suggestions how to fix this ?
[19:11] <peace> 1  set well the power manager
[19:11] <peace> 2 test another driver
[19:12] <peace> 3 if doesn't work fill a bug report
[19:12] <peace> 4 you could ask in #kde too
[19:12] <peace> but not on weekends
[19:13] <zelhar> Another driver ? as far as I know the only options are with fglrx or without
[19:14] <peace> zelhar: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/25/plasma-desktopky5974.png
[19:16] <zelhar> well thank you I will see if I can make it work now
[20:10] <zathmyre> ?
[20:31] <darbe> ho
[20:31] <darbe> hi
[20:31] <darbe> KDE said these drivers are unnnecessary (or something like that)
[20:32] <darbe> now fan doesn't work properly
[20:32] <darbe> an sut down
[20:32] <darbe> how can I fix it
[20:37] <darbe> anybody konws?
[20:37] <L3top> darbe: what drivers? What hardware?
[20:52] <archels> so there's this process or something which keeps spewing ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ on my consoles
[20:52] <archels> any ideas what this is?
[21:29] <Louey> I've installed Kubuntu and for some reason the top part of any window open the minimize/maximize/close buttons have shifted to the right and are cutoff. is that a resolution issue with my laptop?
[22:14] <meduser> sorry BluesKag...I had to run out...I see your not here anymore. Is anyone else here familiar with burning dvd's for regular dvd players?


[11:12] <dragon_> on boot up I get a message, something like "failed to launch fmdu" or something like that
[11:12] <dragon_> flashes by rather quickly
[11:26] <guiverc> dragon_, I'd suggest switching to text terminal, login & view messages using `sudo dmesg`  (you may want to page the output, and not that'll show all messages including many that plymouth (logo screen) normally hide)
[11:29] <dragon_> could not make sense of it?
[11:30] <dragon_> kauditd_printk_skb: 29 callbacks suppressed
[11:30] <dragon_> ?
[11:46] <guiverc[m]> dragon_: messages can be suppressed (as your paste says) to prevent log events spamming/filling logs & thus actually prevent denial-of-service type attacks... callbacks suppressed is usually not an issue  (~29 doesn't sound malicious)
[11:47] <dragon_> the promt warning I read on boot up is before the lubuntu start up logo, sort of letters on a black screen
[11:47] <dragon_> might not matter much, it boots up and everything runs fine as far as I can notise
[11:48] <dragon_> It appeared after the  04.22 upgrade, and I did that about a month ago I think
[11:48] <dragon_> snap hickups with firefox, minor I think
[11:51] <dragon_> back in a bit, reboot


[01:31] <bspencer> anyone know why mplayer wouldn't be installable in target image?
[01:31] <bspencer> I get:
[01:31] <bspencer> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:31] <bspencer> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:31] <bspencer> is only available from another source
[01:31] <bspencer> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[01:37] <rustyl> doesn't look like there is a package called 'mplayer'
[01:38] <bspencer> hm, curious.
[01:38] <rustyl> at least on the in lpia repository
[01:38] <bspencer> apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[01:38] <bspencer> says:
[01:38] <bspencer> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:38] <bspencer>   gnome-mplayer: Depends: mplayer (>= 1.0) but it is not installable
[01:38] <bspencer> E: Broken packages
[01:38] <rustyl> i am guessing that the mplayer package broke for the lpia build, but that would be a guess
[02:03] <bspencer> HappyCamp, you still here?
[04:27] <bspencer> on the current images with broken sudoers and messed up root pswd, is there a way to get root priveleges?
[04:27] <bspencer> It logs in as ume and I'm stuck.
[04:28] <bspencer> this endless bug is sucking my will to live
[04:29] <bspencer> when booting can I do something to get into single user mode?
[04:30] <mjg59> bspencer: Hit escape at grub, hit e, press down arrow, press e, type " init=/bin/bash"
[04:30] <mjg59> Press b
[04:31] <bspencer> on the kernel line
[04:31] <mjg59> Yup
[04:31] <bspencer> s/on/end of
[04:32] <mjg59> Oh, delete the splash argument
[04:32] <bspencer> too late :)
[04:32] <bspencer> gracias
[04:33] <mjg59> Remember to sync after editing files
[04:33] <mjg59> reboot doesn't shut down cleanly in that mode
[04:33] <bspencer> good tip
[04:34] <bspencer> when I run "pswd" it only lets me enter 1 char for the pswd before prompting for "repeat pswd"
[04:34] <bspencer> no big deal, just curious
[04:34] <mjg59> You mean passwd?
[04:36] <bspencer> yeah
[04:36] <bspencer> and characters aren't echoed to the screen
[04:36] <mjg59> Weird
[02:40] <DaftDust> hello
[02:40] <DaftDust> some one here and have time for questions?
[02:42] <DaftDust> hello?
[04:08] <xyzzy_bill> Hey, guys.  Apple just borked my iPhone on purpose, which to me was like a kick in the head... I just totally realized the value of Ubuntu Mobile.
[04:11] <xyzzy_bill> So, I'm a skilled and prolific C programmer.  Any significant projects that need C programmers right away?  I've got a few hours/week I can donate.
[04:42] <xyzzy_bill> BTW, the 4.8" minimum screen size spec-ed in the UIStyleGuide is waay too big.  iPhone is 3.5", and quite usable, even as an e-book.
[04:44] <xyzzy_bill> And geeze... the Blueprint doesn't even have a SIP client at any priority?
[07:08] <Mithrandir> xyzzy_bill: we're not trying to build a mobile phone.  If you want to help out by getting support for SIP into moblin-chat; help would be appreciated.  Note that upstream empathy (which moblin-chat is based on) doesn't yet have stable SIP support, AIUI.
[07:19] <wasabi> There's no doubt that what is built gets you part of the way to a mobil phone distro though. Somebody just needs to package openmoko. :)
[07:21] <Mithrandir> openmoko aren't using hildon, so they won't look very good together
[07:25] <wasabi> Sure, I mostly speak about the core system stuff. Good power management, quick boot, etc.
[07:25] <wasabi> Both hildon and openmoko can then be layed on top of that.
[07:26] <mjg59> wasabi: We have that. It's called Ubuntu.
[07:26] <wasabi> Hehe.
[07:41] <xyzzy_bill> But hildon looks very much like a smart phone window manager, doesn't it?  I'd hate to get locked out of most mobile devices, simply because the early specs said to target 4.8" screens instead of 3.5"
[07:43] <xyzzy_bill> I personally think the iPhone shows that the mobile computing devices and mobile phones will mostly merge in the future.  I think it's worth planning for.  Also, just add a SIP client, and you're half-way to a mobile phone.
[07:44] <mjg59> Hildon is currently not really practical on portrait displays
[07:44] <mjg59> It's not designed to work at < 800x480
[07:44] <tko> xyzzy_bill: hildon doesn't have clearly defined range of form factors at the moment. there is a limit somewhere but it needs someone to go poking around to find it
[07:45] <suihkulokki> and now for something completely different
[07:45] <xyzzy_bill> As computing devices continue to shrink, the only reason to keep mobile computing devices large is for the screen.  I think 3.5" is on the small side for practical computing, but on the large side for my pocket...
[07:46] <suihkulokki> how do I make bzr not conflict on debian/changelog everytime I merge
[07:46] <tko> don't commit debian/changelog :)
[07:46] <tko> just like ChangeLog guarantees merge conflicts
[07:47] <suihkulokki> tko: well both hildon upstream and ume commit changelogs..
[07:48] <suihkulokki> ..and since bzr is mostly used exactly for maintaining debian/ubuntu packages, I kinda expect somekind of best practice/solution to exist
[07:48] <mjg59> Merge the changelog by hand?
[07:48] <tko> resolving changelog conflicts is close to trivial anyway
[07:48] <tko> just annoying
[07:49] <mjg59> I don't think there's a trivial way to do it automatically
[07:50] <tko> if you didn't do line based merge but taught bzr to handle changelog entries as a whole, you could easily make it automatic
[07:50] <suihkulokki> for arbitary changelogish files yes, but debian/changelog is formatted enough somekind of automatic solution should be easy
[07:52] <tko> you could also do similar thing for GNU-ish ChangeLogs, just assume ^[a-ZA-Z0-9] begins a new group that should be handled atomically
[08:28] <corevette> are there any screens of UME yet?


[07:02] <Kilos> o/
[16:00] <cpaelzer> Hi, lets start the server Meeting
[16:00] <kickinz1> o/
[16:01] <cpaelzer> highlighting some people to get started beisner thedac gaughen coreycb arosales matsubara hallyn rbasak cpaelzer jgrimm kickinz1 smoser jamespage gnuoy zul
[16:01] <cpaelzer> Hi everybody o/
[16:01] <arges> hello
[16:01] <smb> o/
[16:01] <arosales> o
[16:01] <arosales> o/
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:02] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 26 16:02:27 2016 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:03] <cpaelzer> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <cpaelzer> The only action item (IIRC) we had last week was for matsubara, so I'd try to cover that in the QA Team section
[16:03] <cpaelzer> anything else before we go step by step, so that I can keep track and we won't miss it later
[16:05] <cpaelzer> ok, that means we cover that later - I pined matsubara to join us already
[16:05] <cpaelzer> #topic Xenial Development
[16:05] <cpaelzer> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:06] <cpaelzer> the release is coming, as always :-)
[16:06] <cpaelzer> we still track major items for the Team in
[16:06] <cpaelzer> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-x-server-core
[16:06] <cpaelzer> rbasak: where there any changes to that?
[16:08] <cpaelzer> rbasak seems to be busy, might join in a few
[16:08] <cpaelzer> anyone else having updates on the assigned bugs there?
[16:09] <cpaelzer> an overview of bugs related to the server Team can always be found at
[16:10] <cpaelzer> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:10] <cpaelzer> ok, today seem to be a calm day in IRC, lets get on
[16:10] <cpaelzer> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:11] <cpaelzer> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:11] <cpaelzer> caribou: anything for us to share today?
[16:11] <caribou> cpaelzer: nothing on my side this week aside from the fact that I'm about to upload the nut merge
[16:11] <caribou> cpaelzer: should be done tomorrow
[16:12] <cpaelzer> caribou: every merge upload is a good step, thank you a lot!
[16:12] <cpaelzer> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:12] <smb> Nothing reportable from kernel-space... beside maybe that hopefully, there potentially might be a move to 4.4 somewhen this week...
[16:13] <cpaelzer> smb: great, anything big to expect from 4.4 that we would have to take a look at ?
[16:13] <smb> nothing that comes to my mind right now
[16:13] <cpaelzer> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:14] <cpaelzer> matsubara still isn't here, last week he had ISP issues for a while
[16:14] <cpaelzer> I'll try to call him after the meeting, anything else for QA that we should discuss/forward?
[16:14] <cpaelzer> that is a silent no
[16:14] <cpaelzer> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:15] <cpaelzer> there was a call for papers regarding "OpenStack Summit Austin"
[16:15] <cpaelzer> anyone participating in that or any other CFPs that are important?
[16:16] <cpaelzer> ok
[16:16] <cpaelzer> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:16] <cpaelzer> there is an upcoming Team sprint colocated with the MAAS Team, any other events that we should participate?
[16:17] <cpaelzer> ok, then anything else?
[16:17] <cpaelzer> #topic Open Discussion
[16:18] <rbasak> Sorry, I joined late.
[16:19] <rbasak> I don't really have anything to add, I don't think. Blueprint work continues, please follow your work items.
[16:19] <cpaelzer> ok, thats good - everyone seems heads down to get their stuff done
[16:20] <cpaelzer> since matsubara didn't have a chance today, we will keep last weeks action item
[16:20] <cpaelzer>  #action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386
[16:20] <cpaelzer> #action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386
[16:20] <meetingology> ACTION: : Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386
[16:20] <cpaelzer> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:20] <cpaelzer> next chair in the list would be thedac
[16:20] <cpaelzer> thedac: can you lead the meeting next week, same time as usual?
[16:22] <cpaelzer> ok, no need to keep you waiting
[16:22] <cpaelzer> I'll discuss with thedac (next in list) and beisner (head of the list, but on travel today) who will chair next week
[16:23] <cpaelzer> thanks rbasak, smb and caribou to making this not a 100% monologue :-)
[16:23] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[16:23] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 26 16:23:17 2016 UTC.
[16:23] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-26-16.02.moin.txt
[16:23] <caribou> cpaelzer: np, thanks to you
[16:23] <rbasak> Thank you cpaelzer!
[16:23] <smb> cpaelzer, youre welcome :)
[16:23] <kickinz1> thanks cpaelzer
[16:28] <cpaelzer> zul: I saw last weeks log missing, I'll create it together with this weeks log
[16:29] <cpaelzer> I still had the link in my IRC clients log


[06:26] <z0l0o1> website admin available?? site "locks" after shifting to secure pages... error code as fallows: (Error code: ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap)...
[06:30] <mgedmin> somebody disabled ssl3?
[06:34] <z0l0o1> well that made me feel like a noob... my TLS was off... (L to forehead)
[14:00] <lindol> hi all