[03:49] <ubotu> Agrajag: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:49] <Fryguy--> zero88: this isn't a programming channel, join ##c for c programming issues
[03:49] <tuvook> Agrajag, pulse's website?
[03:49] <tuvook> but thats not needed
[03:49] <tuvook> its Hardy's default
[03:49] <a1fa_> cge: i have this POS terminal
[03:49] <Agrajag-> tuvook: not when you dist-upgrade
[03:49] <Fryguy--> tuvook: ubuntu hardy defaults to using pulseaudio for it's sound architecture, and is somewhat baked into ubuntu like that, so it's actually suitable for #ubuntu+1 (but not here)
[03:49] <cge> Tann: It sounds like your iptables aren't set up right.
[03:49] <jojom1> The Ubuntu install is failing at 94% (when the installer is installing GRUB) and the installer reports that the command grub-install '(hd0)' failed.
[03:50] <tuvook> I dist-upgrade
[03:50] <a1fa_> there she goes
[03:50] <corinne_> uh...
[03:50] <cge> Tann: Are you trying to use masquerading, or just bridge the two devices?
[03:50] <Fryguy--> tuvook: what distro are you running right now?
[03:50] <tuvook> Fryguy--, true
[03:50] <corinne_> Does anyone understand what I have to do?
[03:50] <tuvook> Fryguy--, ubuntu, Hardy
[03:51] <Fryguy--> Tann: you aren't going to like this, but just buy a router.  if you aren't experienced with networking, it's just a hassle to set up ip masquerading and NAT on a *nix machine.  (I do it with pfsense, but I also have enough sense to research what i'm doing)
[03:51] <JoshJ> does /etc/rc.local run as root or as the user you're logging in as?
[03:51] <Gumby> JoshJ: root
[03:51] <tuvook> Tann, or use webmin
[03:51] <PackDude> Runs as root when the system starts
[03:51] <JoshJ> ah, okay. so "modprobe ndiswrapper" in there should do what i want, then.
[03:51] <tritium> JoshJ: it runs before any user is logged in
[03:51] <JoshJ> thanks
[03:52] <HardyOne> tuvook, please help me with vbox. I cant seem to find a deb
[03:52] <Gumby> Fryguy--: also a tool thats quite easy to use called ipkungfu. not sure if its still in development though
[03:52] <legend2440> agrajag https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[03:52] <tuvook> HardyOne, then you need more help than you think
[03:52] <Fryguy--> HardyOne: it's freely available in the repositories
[03:52] <tuvook> HardyOne, goto virtualbox's website
[03:52] <tuvook> its that easy
[03:52] <Fryguy--> it's IN THE REPOSITORY
[03:52] <PackDude> I hear OpenBSD makes good routers, if you don't mind learning another *nix OS
[03:52] <tuvook> that too
[03:52] <BaW> .. Been trying to install 64 bit/desktop onto a intel quad core, however once i boot from the cd, screen goes blank and unable to do anything else
[03:53] <legend2440> Karsyth:  how you doing? still got sound?
[03:53] <Karsyth> anyone here that can make sense of this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59995/
[03:53] <Fryguy--> PackDude: eh, freebsd is more suitable i think, just because of pre-packaged products (m0n0wall and pfsense)
[03:53] <Karsyth> legend2440: yes sir
[03:53] <eriqjaffe> Does anybody know how to add to the Path environment variable?
[03:53] <Fryguy--> BaW: boot using the second option instead of the first
[03:53] <Karsyth> legend2440: i even got an n64 emulator running and i configured a wired 360 controller
[03:53] <PackDude> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06.2 AMD64 on a dual core Opteron.  Works great, even in X WIndows.
[03:53] <JoshJ> eriqjaffe, what shell?
[03:53] <Karsyth> legend2440: im doin real good :D
[03:53] <cge> Karsyth: probably not, unfortunately, but I'll look.
[03:53] <eriqjaffe> bash
[03:53] <BaW> Fryguy-- safe mode, tried it failed
[03:53] <Daworm> Query, can someone advise a good IRC bouncer for use on ubuntu?
[03:53] <Fryguy--> eriqjaffe: assuming bash, export PATH=$PATH:/your/new/path/here
[03:53] <legend2440> Karsyth:  great
[03:53] <Daworm> that's not TOO complex to configure
[03:53] <Karsyth> cge: alright thanks
[03:53] <Fryguy--> Daworm: irssi
[03:53] <isleshocky77> Right now I can checkout fine from subversion on ubuntu box but when I go to commit I get an error:  "svn: MKACTIVITY of '/!svn/act/dcd5f4f3-27cf-4258-a8c5-d8cd81c28dab': Could not read status line: Secure connection truncated"
[03:53] <JoshJ> yeah, what Fryguy-- said
[03:54] <JoshJ> there's a wy to do it in the .bashrc as well but that works
[03:54] <jojom1> The Ubuntu install is failing at 94% (when the installer is installing GRUB) and the installer reports that the command "grub-install '(hd0)'" failed.  I've tried running the grub installer manually ("sudo install-grub '(hd0)'") but that gives me the error: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:54] <tuvook> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.5.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI
[03:54] <Karsyth> legend2440: do you have an ipod / zune / m3p player?
[03:54] <Starnestommy> Daworm: maybe dircproxy
[03:54] <Karsyth> legend2440: im thinking about getting something to manage that with, i just remember last time i tried that i lost my sound :/
[03:54] <eriqjaffe> Josh, will that stick upon reboot?
[03:55] <jojom1> My machine (an ASUS A6Ja notebook) has a single 100 GB SATA drive with Windows XP already installed. The machine has a recovery partition, the main partition (with Windows XP installed) and I've now added two new partitions for Ubuntu: an ext3 partition for the OS and a 2 GB swap partition. I'm trying to install Gutsy and have the machine dual boot. Running fdisk -l gives the following:
[03:55] <jojom1> Disk /dev/sda: 100.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[03:55] <jojom1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 12161 cylinders
[03:55] <jojom1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:55] <jojom1> Disk identifier: 0x6103cd94
[03:55] <jojom1> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:55] <FloodBot3> jojom1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <jojom1> /dev/sda1               1<PHONE_NUMBER>   1b  Hidden W95 FAT32
[03:55] <Fryguy--> eriqjaffe: if you put it into .bash_profile or .bashrc then it will (assuming you are using bash)
[03:55] <JoshJ> yeah
[03:55] <legend2440> Karsyth:  sansa mp3 player is what i have
[03:55] <HardyOne> Fryguy--, ty
[03:55] <Karsyth> legend2440: what program do you use to manage it?
[03:55] <BaW> Fryguy-- safe mode, tried it failed
[03:55] <JoshJ> eriqjaffe, see Fryguy--'s post
[03:55] <cge> Karsyth: My guess is that the program just isn't going to work, if it's something that someone else hasn't already had success with. Winehq seems to indicate that only 50% of the rpcrt4 api has been implemented, so that's probably what is causing the problem.
[03:55] <Fryguy--> BaW: you are probably out of luck then
[03:56] <Karsyth> cge: alright no biggy, thanks for checkin it out for me
[03:56] <Daworm> Fryguy--: with irssi - I can connect another client to that and read allthe history etc. ?
[03:56] <Fryguy--> Daworm: yes
[03:56] <BaW> Fryguy-- that blows
[03:56] <eriqjaffe> I have that in the .bashrc file already, but it always complains about /usr/games
[03:56] <Fryguy--> Daworm: or just run it in a screen session, which is better anyway
[03:56] <egc> man, fedora has a bomb-a** installer
[03:56] <eriqjaffe> ...and I see it in /etc/environment, as well.
[03:56] <HardyOne> Fryguy--, how do I add myself to the vbox user group?
[03:56] <cge> BaW: How experienced are you with GNU/Linux environments?
[03:56] <legend2440> Karsyth:  just nautilus.  i just open it in nautilus and copy files to it
[03:56] <tuvook> ubotu, virtualbox
[03:56] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[03:56] <Daworm> well, I'll be connecting from work so will have to find a port I can connect to on it first.  But don't have SSH access by default.
[03:57] <Kyro__> bleh i have to log out to reload my users and groups or something - anyway to make it do that without relogging?
[03:57] <cge> BaW: You can always try init=/bin/bash
[03:57] <tritium> HardyOne: adduser <username> <groupname>
[03:57] <Fryguy--> HardyOne: edit /etc/group, or use the gui administration tool system | administration | users and groups (note you have to log out and log back in for changes to take effect)
[03:57] <HardyOne> ty
[03:57] <tuvook> ubotu, samba
[03:57] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:57] <Karsyth> legend2440: smart, i should have done that but ive already got a library and it would be a pain to organize
[03:57] <legend2440> Karsyth:  you use amarok?
[03:57] <nikrud> Fryguy--: eww, editing /etc/group by hand ??
[03:57] <Fryguy--> nikrud: why eww
[03:57] <Fryguy--> it's faster
[03:57] <Fryguy--> and easier
[03:58] <nikrud> Fryguy--: sudo adduser user group . done
[03:58] <Karsyth> legend2440: nope, i uninstalled all of that when i was fixing my sound. should i use amarok?
[03:58] <tritium> Fryguy--: adduser is easiest
[03:58] <Fryguy--> for me, and most other people who are proficient with *nix
[03:58] <Fryguy--> tritium: not when the user already exists, adduser is useless
[03:58] <cge> nikrud: Sometimes one wants to do things that can't be done with such commands.
[03:58] <tuvook> ubotu, adduser
[03:58] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[03:58] <tritium> Fryguy--: no, it's not.
[03:58] <Daworm> Fryguy--: well, I'll be connecting from work so will have to find a port I can connect to on it first.  But don't have SSH access by default.
[03:58] <tritium> Fryguy--: adduser <username (even existing user)> <groupname>
[03:58] <tuvook> ubotu, ssh
[03:58] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:58] <legend2440> Karsyth: i never tried it but its hear it pretty good
[03:59] <tritium> !botabuse | tuvook
[03:59] <ubotu> tuvook: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[03:59] <tuvook> putty from work
[03:59] <Fryguy--> sudo vim /etc/group (enter) /group (enter) I,(username)(ESC):wq!  is pretty easy for me
[03:59] <jojom1> Sorry, here's the fdisk output using paste.ubuntu.nl: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59996/
[03:59] <tuvook> tritium, you don't think they need it and my use was apropo?
[03:59] <tuvook> saves alot of redundant typing
[03:59] <tritium> tuvook: I just see a lot of ubotu queries from you in the past few minutes
[03:59] <tuvook> people are not using the bot at al
[03:59] <Kyro> omg virtualbox rocks
[03:59] <tuvook> I'm not using it for me
[03:59] <tritium> tuvook: okay, just a reminder.  Thanks.
[04:00] <cge> tuvook: Why not use the bot to message people, though?
[04:00] <tuvook> for those who don't know where to look
[04:00] <Daworm> Starnestommy: Hurm, looks to be a toss up between IRSSI and Dircproxy...
[04:00] <Kyro> im installing vista in ubuntu.. this is crazy
[04:00] <Fryguy--> Daworm: irssi is far better than dircproxy
[04:00] <tritium> Daworm: I'd recommend irssi
[04:00] <tuvook> cge just remembered I could do that
[04:00] <nikrud> tuvook:   ubotu, ssh | <nick> is good, it gets their attention
[04:00] <tritium> tuvook: :)
[04:00] <tuvook> forgot the syntax
[04:00] <Fryguy--> this discussion shouldn't even be close
[04:00] <tuvook> nikrud, ty
[04:01] <evilbug> how can i restore a bootcamp partition if it's in ntfs? (since mac os doesn't natively handle ntfs)
[04:01] <tuvook> pipe , duh :)
[04:01] <Fryguy--> evilbug: this is #ubuntu, not #osx
[04:01] <nikrud> tuvook:  and  > nick  sends a pm
[04:01] <tritium> evilbug: perhaps there is a #macos you can ask in
[04:01] <tuvook> nikrud, ty
[04:01] <Daworm> tritium: recommendation accepted. I'll look into it more later :)
[04:02] <legend2440> Karsyth: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10204&iTestingId=19368 it looks like exteel won't run with wine
[04:02] <cge> evilbug: what do you mean by restore?
[04:02] <Karsyth> legend2440: that sucks. a friend told me to try it out
[04:02] <orran> can anyone help me format my hard drive
[04:03] <legend2440> Karsyth:  you don't dual boot?
[04:03] <tuvook> orran, seriously?
[04:03] <evilbug> tritium- Fryguy-- i know that,it's just that no one is answering atm.pretty late at night.i saved a disk-clone as an image (.dmg) and i'm trying to re-write it to the windows partition but osx can't handle ntfs.so i'm wondering if i can possibly use a live cd to do this?
[04:03] <Karsyth> legend2440: not at the moment, im still building my new pc. my old hard drive fried so im using ubuntu in the meantime
[04:03] <tritium> evilbug: no idea.
[04:03] <orran> yeah:)
[04:04] <cge> evilbug: dd, maybe? You'd have to look into what dmg file actually are.
[04:04] <Karsyth> legend2440: i tried installing xp but i got all kinds of bs on my code being invalid
[04:04] <orran> My system won't Read the thing
[04:04] <tuvook> ubotu, gpartion | orran
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpartion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <cge> evilbug: Of course, I should warn you that my suggestions are likely to cause your computer to explode.
[04:04] <evilbug> i know what a .dmg,it's just the problem of osx not being able to write to ntfs or read it.
[04:04] <cottima> hello, I am on the alt. cd install.  I did a RAID 1.  How do give GRUB both devices and do I just to device or the partition and raid (md0) device?
[04:05] <orran> I'm new to this
[04:05] <tuvook> orran, how are you trying to install?
[04:05] <jojom1> Can anybody recommend somewhere else I can look for help?
[04:05] <NemesisD> how do i restart x11 from terminal? ctrl alt backspace is non responsible but ive sshed into my machine
[04:05] <tritium> NemesisD: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[04:05] <tuvook> NemesisD, restart gdm
[04:05] <cge> evilbug: I mean, I'm not sure what dmg files are in terms of formatting. You might be able to just loop mount it (sudo mount -o loop dmg_file /mnt).
[04:05] <orran> I'm adding a second hard drive to my system
[04:05] <NemesisD> damn that did it
[04:06] <NemesisD> im troubled this problem produces nothing in X11's logs
[04:06] <tuvook> NemesisD, or /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:06] <NemesisD> but im too buy to look into it now
[04:06] <NemesisD> thanks guys
[04:06] <tuvook> np
[04:06] <tritium> tuvook: invoke-rc.d is preferred
[04:06] <tuvook> tritium, never used the invoke-rc.d
[04:06] <cge> tritium: But that didn't exist in the old days!
[04:07] <tritium> tuvook, cge: it obeys runlevel constraints, as well as any local policies that have been set
[04:07] <tuvook> cool
[04:08] <cge> tritium: Ah, that's neat. I had never heard of it before.
[04:08] <grubfails> Installing ubuntu's grub in alt. Keeps failing, any advice?
[04:08] <mzuverink> I am running 7.10 and attempting to install a Linksys wireless pcmcia wireless 802.11 g it is a model number WPGX ver. 2?C
[04:08] <zedfloyd> i have a big problem, i have forgotten my login and password for ubuntu...HELP!
[04:08] <tritium> cge: it's really a tool for packagers, but it comes in handy for sysadmin too
[04:08] <berlylabs> aanyone know why rip might say it can't lock the pid file
[04:08] <mzuverink>  Ab=nd I cant seem to gt it, anyone able to help?
[04:09] <berlylabs> this is killing me I can't find anyone who knows the answer
[04:09] <cottima> I need help with raid 1 and grub, in another words.
[04:09] <VirtualOne> zedfloyd: you are SOL
[04:09] <zedfloyd> really?
[04:09] <orran> Can any one help me with formatting my hard drive
[04:09] <tritium> zedfloyd: no
[04:10] <grubfails> Executing grub-install (hd0) failed.  this is a fatal error."
[04:10] <zedfloyd> tritium: please help!
[04:10] <zedfloyd> what can i do?
[04:10] <zero88> !pastebin
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:10] <Varanger> Please anyone help I am looking for "tzconfig" and I don't know which package installs it ...!!
[04:10] <tritium> zedfloyd: you can boot into recovery (single-user mode) by selecting it from the grub menu.  You'll have root priveleges, and can reset the user password.
[04:10] <berlylabs> RIP: could not lock pid_file /var/run/quagga/ripd.pid exiting
[04:10] <xq> zedfloyd: Go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156459 and print it. Follow the instructions. Good luck in your efforts.
[04:10] <berlylabs> help seriously
[04:11] <Accuracy> hey
[04:11] <zedfloyd> tritium, i dont know what the grub menu is
[04:11] <tritium> zedfloyd: you follow?  So, first be sure you can reboot, hit Esc to get the grub menu, and then arrow down to select recovery mode
[04:11] <zedfloyd> oh
[04:11] <tritium> zedfloyd: the command you'll use once booted: passwd <username>, and you'll be prompted from that point forward
[04:11] <xq> berlylabs: Quagga issue?
[04:11] <Accuracy> where can I find faqs for ubuntu server edition? all I can find is for desktop edition
[04:12] <orran> When adding on A hard drive what do I need to do?
[04:12] <tritium> Accuracy: there is an entire server guide in the help system
[04:12] <Fryguy--> orran: plug it in
[04:12] <grubfails> Anyone?
[04:12] <Karsyth> can anyone help me with this howto? im seriously linux retarded http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3703
[04:12] <Accuracy> help system...on the website?
[04:12] <berlylabs> xq yes
[04:12] <Karsyth> you have to scroll down a bit
[04:12] <xq> berlylabs: How did it begin occuring?
[04:13] <berlylabs> xq: i cant figure this out to save my life, noone can find the answer
[04:13] <shawn__> does anybody know where i can find a 3d open gl driver for an ati x1300 graphics card?
[04:13] <berlylabs> xq: i edited the files by telnetting to the port they are running on
[04:13] <berlylabs> then exited and did ripd SIGHUP
[04:13] <grubfails> Grub keeps spitting out fatal errors during alt. Cd
[04:13] <berlylabs> this is the first time I've ever done that
[04:13] <orran> LOL
[04:13] <xq> berlylabs: It looks like it's a file permissions issue. What is trying to access/read/write to it? It may need permission to do so (read/write/execute)?
[04:13] <berlylabs> zebra SIGHUP doesn't give that error
[04:13] <berlylabs> it has permission
[04:13] <cge> Varanger: Are you joking, or are you actually trying to find it?
[04:13] <Accuracy> ok I think I found it
[04:14] <Accuracy> it's not really in a logical location, though
[04:14] <DrIP> wow
[04:14] <zedfloyd> do i type passwd <username>.... not sure of this exactly
[04:14] <shawn__> are you in the root berlet?
[04:14] <Accuracy> but thanks for the help, tritium
[04:14] <tritium> zedfloyd: the actual user name
[04:14] <Varanger> cge: I am not joking. The closer thing is tzselect.
[04:14] <berlylabs> ls -l /var/run/quagga/ripd.pid is... -rw----------
[04:14] <Accuracy> much appreciated
[04:14] <shawn__> does anybody know where i can find a 3d open gl driver for an ati x1300 graphics card?
[04:14] <cge> Varanger: It isn't actually there any more, as far as I can tell.
[04:14] <zedfloyd> i dont remember my username
[04:14] <zedfloyd> either
[04:14] <tritium> Accuracy: no problem :)
[04:14] <tritium> zedfloyd: you can find it in /etc/passwd
[04:14] <grubfails> Anyone know how to get grub to install during ubuntu alt. Cd?
[04:14] <xq> berlylabs: hmmm. Is Zebra already running?
[04:15] <orran> So does any one know how to Format a hard drive
[04:15] <Varanger> cge: What replaced it?? tzselect??
[04:15] <cge> Varanger: Yes. See bug #148891, for example.
[04:15] <xq> berlylabs: OR are you -positive- zebra is being run with the correct permissions? OR /var/run/quagga exists / has the correct permissions? ;)
[04:15] <shawn__> does anybody know where i can find a 3d open gl driver for an ati x1300 graphics card?
[04:15] <isleshocky77> Right now I can checkout find but when I go to commit I get an error:  "svn: MKACTIVITY of '/!svn/act/dcd5f4f3-27cf-4258-a8c5-d8cd81c28dab': Could not read status line: Secure connection truncated"
[04:15] <tritium> zedfloyd: cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000 should find it, assuming it's the first user account you created
[04:15] <Fryguy--> orran: just create a new filesystem on it, mkfs or whatever
[04:15] <berlylabs> just stopped it
[04:15] <tritium> !ati | shawn__
[04:15] <ubotu> shawn__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:15] <berlylabs> error still occurring
[04:15] <Karsyth> can anyone help me with this howto? im seriously linux retarded http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3703
[04:15] <tritium> Karsyth: please don't repeat too often
[04:16] <shawn__> what does that mean trituium?
[04:16] <xq> berlylabs: I recommend e-mailing http://www.quagga.net/lists.php the quagga list
[04:16] <Karsyth> tritium: i wated for 2 screen fills
[04:16] <orran> It's a storage hard drive I already have an OS
[04:16] <cge> Karsyth: Have you tried just ignoring the howto?
[04:16] <Varanger> cge: You ruled... thank you!
[04:16] <cge> Karsyth: There are those of us who look even further back.
[04:16] <tritium> shawn__: sorry, ubotu is supposed to send you a note
[04:16] <tritium> ubotu: test
[04:16] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:16] <xq> berlylabs: They may be able to assist further. Let them know all steps you've done so far (all permission steps, everything.....) in detail. So they can assist from the get-go.
[04:16] <shawn__> a not about what?
[04:16] <shawn__> note?
[04:16] <xq> berlylabs: Because permissions and another instance of Zebra running is usually what is causing that error for most people.
[04:17] <tritium> shawn__: restricted drivers.  Search wiki.ubuntu.com for ATI, and you'll find the page you need
[04:17] <Karsyth> cge: i just dont know where to get the correct source, does it just mean get the .exe? if so which version?
[04:17] <Karsyth> cge: other than that im set
[04:17] <shawn__> ok
[04:17] <tritium> shawn__: the help system also has info on that subject
[04:17] <berlylabs> ok
[04:17] <xq> berlylabs: Exact list - http://lists.quagga.net/mailman/listinfo/quagga-users
[04:17] <grubfails> I am without an OS and in the middle of ubuntu install, grub will not install and outputs fatal errors
[04:17] <berlylabs> maybe i should restart hte computer
[04:17] <killown> j #gnome
[04:17] <zedfloyd> tritium thank you so much... i will try it! :)
[04:17] <Karsyth> cge: it just says, "get the source" it doesnt indicate where or which version. i want to do it correctly, instead of guessing. guessing has messed up my sound
[04:17] <tritium> shawn__: i.e., the little ? in the blue circle in the menu bar
[04:17] <orran> Solaris is Funny
[04:17] <cge> Karsyth: I think those instructions are actually too old.
[04:17] <tritium> zedfloyd: no problem.  I'll be around in a few minutes if you have problems.
[04:17] <xq> berlylabs: They should respond pretty rapidly. I wish you luck. You may wish to restart, but it should not be needed at all. I recommend e-mailing the list. Make the e-mail as detailed as possible :)
[04:18] <cge> Karsyth: I would just try running the program under wine normally.
[04:18] <killown> how can I remove the tooltip the yellow-looking one from the bottom taskbar panel?
[04:18] <Karsyth> cge: doesnt work, thats why i checked out the appdb
[04:18] <zedfloyd> thanks
[04:18] <cge> Karsyth: ah
[04:18] <grubfails> Anyone?
[04:18] <cge> Karsyth: How badly do you need to run the program? :)
[04:18] <BuckWild> hey guys, has anyone here installed FreeNX on gutsy?
[04:18] <Karsyth> cge: not too badly. its a fun game though :D
[04:19] <VirtualOne> !freenx | BuckWild
[04:19] <ubotu> BuckWild: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:19] <orran> Can anyone help me with my problem
[04:19] <Karsyth> cge: ill just mess around with stuff i guess
[04:19] <BuckWild> VirtualOne, does that work for 7.10, I'm talking about gutsy, not feisty
[04:19] <grubfails> Same here, plz help w/ my prob
[04:19] <cge> Karsyth: It probably isn't worth it. You would have to download the wine sources, get an old patch to work with new code, which would probably involve some work in C and knowledge of wine internals, and then compile it.
[04:20] <Accuracy> is there a way to use ubuntu server edition and have it run with a desktop and everything?
[04:20] <Karsyth> cge: alright. thanks anyways
[04:20] <Accuracy> I don't want to have to use a command line for everything
[04:20] <grubfails> Accuracy: yes
[04:20] <killown> how can I remove the tooltip the yellow-looking one from the bottom taskbar panel?
[04:20] <Varanger> bye cge
[04:20] <VirtualOne> BuckWild: check the !seveas repos I believe he has a deb for gutsy
[04:20] <orran> Any body here using solaris
[04:20] <Accuracy> I just installed it and all I have is a command line now
[04:20] <cge> Karsyth: Unfortunately, there are many things that don't work with wine.
[04:20] <DrIP> hi all! i need to know how to route all my internet requests from my LAN to my Wireless (which has the internet)
[04:20] <Accuracy> and I don't know what to do
[04:20] <grubfails> Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <BuckWild> ok, thanks
[04:20] <egc> orran: i do
[04:20] <Accuracy> thanks
[04:20] <VirtualOne> !seveas | BuckWild
[04:20] <ubotu> BuckWild: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:20] <cge> DrIP: Err... Tann?
[04:20] <orran> really
[04:21] <DrIP> cge: Tann?
[04:21] <shawn__> i found the drivers
[04:21] <orran> what OS are you running
[04:21] <Tann> yes?
[04:21] <amenado> Tann-> did you assign an ip address to your 2nd computer?  can you ping the yahoo from the gateway?
[04:21] <shawn__> but when i install those drivers my xserver crashes
[04:21] <cge> DrIP, Tann: you both have the same problems?
[04:21] <DrIP> cge: Tann?ahhh
[04:21] <DrIP> err stupid xchat
[04:21] <orran> Age: What OS do you use
[04:21] <grubfails> Grub keeps fatal erroring when installing ubuntu from alt. Cd
[04:22] <grubfails> Suggestions?
[04:22] <Tann> oh. amenado: what do you mean assign an ip to the 2nd comp?
[04:22] <amenado> Tann all host must have an ip address to communicate
[04:22] <orran> egc: what Os are you using
[04:22] <egc> several
[04:22] <egc> solaris is one of them
[04:22] <amenado> DrIP  can you elaborate on your network setup?
[04:22] <DrIP> amenado: sure...
[04:22] <orran> egc: What else
[04:23] <Tann> amenado: ok. how do i setup the IP?
[04:23] <egc> ubuntu
[04:23] <egc> windows
[04:23] <tritium> !enter | egc
[04:23] <ubotu> egc: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:23] <amenado> Tann-> you figure it out if its windows,  visit #windows for windows assistance
[04:23] <Tann> amenado: oh, that. yeah i set it up
[04:23] <DrIP> amenado: internet -> wired -> wireless AP -> wired/less ubuntu desktop |-|> wired router -> several other computers
[04:24] <egc> im also installing fedora and slackware right now
[04:24] <egc> orran: why?
[04:24] <amenado> Tann what is the ip address of the windows host? the ip address of your gateway host facing that windows?
[04:24] <Tann> amenado: sorry. i am a little slow
[04:25] <orran> egc: I'm running a few myself
[04:25] <amenado> Tann i noticed that, and next time you may have to wait very long
[04:25] <Hyphenex> I know about piping, but how do I include the output of a program as arguments into the next?
[04:25] <Fryguy--> Hyphenex: xargs
[04:25] <ngabriel> can anyone tell me why anything i put in /etc/hosts gets overwritten?
[04:25] <amenado> DrIP is your ubuntu desktop able to get to the internet? can it ping www.yahoo.com?
[04:25] <orran> egc: but does you sound card work with yours
[04:25] <DrIP> amenado: yes
[04:25] <david_> do my drivers need to be in a certain location if i try to install them from terminal?  I'm new and have a subfolder called Linksys?
[04:26] <grubfails> Anyone know if there is a known bug with grub on ubuntu's past two alt. Cds?
[04:26] <DrIP> amenado: i'm on that system now
[04:26] <egc> orran: in solaris, i needed to install open sound system for sound
[04:26] <egc> otherwise, yes
[04:26] <orran> egc: what do you mean?
[04:26] <amenado> DrIP can your ubuntu ping any of the other several computers you mentioned?
[04:26] <egc> orran: is it solaris that you can't get sound in?
[04:26] <DrIP> amenado: no. if i were to enable my wired, i would disconnect from my internet
[04:27] <orran> egc: yeah
[04:27] <amenado> grubfails-> not that I know of, i downloaded one today and installed it from a hard disk
[04:27] <craine> what is the command use to identified memory size?
[04:27] <grubfails> I tried on two computers. Different arch. And diff install cds
[04:27] <amenado> DrIP can you ping from desktop to the wired router?
[04:27] <grubfails> Bolth fails on grub install from alt. Cds
[04:27] <egc> orran: http://www.opensound.com/oss.html
[04:27] <orran> egc: I like using Solaris more than Linux
[04:28] <egc> orran: cool, why is that?
[04:28] <DrIP> amenado: like i said, if i enabe my wired, my intenet requests would switch to my wired, which has no internet lol
[04:28] <tritium> orran, egc: please keep on topic (not solaris, for sure)
[04:28] <icesword> hehemgrubfails
[04:28] <DrIP> *enable
[04:28] <orran> LOL
[04:28] <orran> funny
[04:28] <amenado> DrIP with the way you describe your network with out labels, i dont know which wired you are referring to
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> grubfails, Sounds like you are trying to dual boot and writing grub to wrong location or are using an external drive.
[04:29] <cge> oh dear - is the person who was asking about a blank screen with the livecd in amd64 still here?
[04:29] <BuckWild> *sigh* I give up
[04:29] <egc> tritium: please avoid stifling conversation
[04:29] <DrIP> amenado: ahh ok... let me revise...
[04:29] <BuckWild> I can't get it to work in gutsy, I've spent about 3 hours following FAQs and nothing
[04:29] <Tann> amenado: to answer your question earlier, i can ping yahoo. I set the IP of my windows comp to <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:29] <orran> egc: what OS are you on right now
[04:29] <BuckWild> I don't know why ubuntu doesn't have a secure remote desktop installed by default in the system
[04:30] <BuckWild> who in their right mind would ever open a VNC connection for remote access outside their home network
[04:30] <grubfails> Buckwild, it does, its called ssh
[04:30] <orran> tritium: do you know anything about installing an hard drive
[04:30] <DrIP> amenado: cable_internet -> wireless_ap -> ubuntu_wireless -> inside_router -> other_computers
[04:30] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: ssh + X11 forwarding via xpra or xdmcp is fine
[04:30] <amenado> Tann i can not remember what i asked you earlier,  if you are that slow, its no point for me to assist you, i cant remember what i did five minutes ago
[04:30] <tritium> orran: can you be more specific?
[04:30] <DrIP> amenado: ^^ is what needs to happen
[04:30] <BuckWild> Fryguy--, I tried piping windows applications over VNC and it was the most unresponsive thing I ever used
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> BuckWild, Did you actually need something or just expressing your opinions
[04:31] <BuckWild> s/VNC/SSH;
[04:31] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: yah vnc isn't that great, hence why i listed several things that were NOT vnc
[04:31] <BuckWild> I actually do need something, I need FreeNX to work, and it doesn't
[04:31] <amenado> DrIP ubuntu wireless?  what is that?  inside_router ? what is that?
[04:31] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: use xpra, it's better than freenx
[04:31] <BuckWild> I've been trying to get it to work using a thousand different install guides for the last 3 hours
[04:31] <BuckWild> xpra?
[04:31] <DrIP> amenado: ahh ok, holdon once more....
[04:31] <orran> tritium: I'm adding a second hard drive to my system but my system won't let me mount and format the hard drive.
[04:31] <BuckWild> ok
[04:31] <sainzeo> hey everyone - what's the best/quickest way to convert *.rmvb files using Ubuntu?
[04:32] <Fryguy--> sainzeo: mencoder probably
[04:32] <grubfails> Anyone?
[04:32] <tsukasa> okay, im running ubuntu x64 on a 15" santa rosa macbook pro. Everything ive read says that sleep works out of the box for this laptop. The option for it doesn't even show up in the power manager or the shutdown panel, and acpitool -s freezes my machine. What gives?
[04:32] <amenado> DrIP if you have a picture of the layout, its worth a thousand words
[04:32] <tritium> orran: have you looked at the output from dmesg to determine that it's being detected at boot?
[04:32] <sainzeo> Fryguy--: yeah I figured, but I'm not sure how to get the codecs that are necessary for conversion working properly....would you have more step-by-step information about this?
[04:32] <DrIP> amenado: ok... holdon.....
[04:32] <Fryguy--> sainzeo: no but google has plenty
[04:32] <BuckWild> Fryguy--, what is xpra, google is turning up nothing
[04:33] <orran> tritium: Yes it's on me secondary with my Burner
[04:33] <shawn__> how do i edit text files?
[04:33] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: you must be pretty bad at google http://partiwm.org/browser/README.xpra
[04:33] <tritium> orran: so what's the error you're getting?
[04:33] <orran> egc: what all are you using your solaris for
[04:33] <grubfails> Shawn: nano filename
[04:33] <Tann> amenado: sorry. grr, i can be such an idiot some times
[04:33] <shawn__> ok
[04:33] <Karsyth> is there a way i can setup Pidgin Messenger to like flash the screen or shake or something when someone says my name in IRC? sometimes the sound just doesnt cut it
[04:34] <orran> It just keeps scanning of it
[04:34] <BuckWild> actually I'm not, just tired from 3 hours of trying to get something that doesn't work working
[04:34] <xphox> . op
[04:34] <xphox> . hop
[04:34] <xphox> .op
[04:34] <Fryguy--> Karsyth: there is a notification plugin that you might want to look at.  pidgin's implementation of irc is pretty poor though, you should look at other alternatives
[04:34] <BuckWild> Fryguy--, blah, this is the whole "run an X server on Windows" method
[04:34] <tsukasa> okay, im running ubuntu x64 on a 15" santa rosa macbook pro. Everything ive read says that sleep works out of the box for this laptop. The option for it doesn't even show up in the power manager or the shutdown panel, and acpitool -s freezes my machine. What gives?
[04:35] <BuckWild> I've done stuff like this already, I wanted something like remote desktop for windows
[04:35] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: what's wrong with that?
[04:35] <Tann> i'm not as stupid as i may sound sometimes. i have my moments
[04:35] <Fryguy--> xming works very well on windows
[04:35] <BuckWild> Fryguy--, for one thing it's slow
[04:35] <Werdna> <3 xming
[04:35] <BuckWild> real slow
[04:36] <Tmcarr89> Anyone know what I can do about root certificates in Linux?
[04:36] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: did you even BOTHER to read the link i sent you? or are you going to make assumptions based on pre-existing knowledge without researching alternatives
[04:36] <grubfails> Buckwild, use ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-X, login, then run a program and it forwards it to remote computer
[04:36] <TrustNoOne> is there a channel for yellow dog?
[04:36] <shawn__> how do you save after using nano?
[04:36] <BuckWild> second off, I like to actually use the desktop environment when I'm doing remote desktop, not use the CLI to launch GUI applications that a lot of times I don't even know the command name of
[04:36] <Flannel> shawn__: ctrl-O
[04:36] <Fryguy--> grubfails: we are well past that point of the conversation, thank you for your useless input though
[04:36] <Flannel> shawn__: (write Out) -- ^ means ctrl across the bottom of the screen.
[04:37] <cute_bettong> i have a hard drive that was set up as a secondary hard drive in windows xp and when i placed it as a secondary hard drive in my ubuntu box it told me that i don't have the nessisary file permissions to access the files, if i switch to root i can grab some of them but if i try as my normal user i cannot, how would i change the permissions of every file and folder on the drive so that i can copy them from the NTFS drive on to my ubuntu drive, so
[04:37] <egc> wow
[04:37] <grubfails> Welcome
[04:37] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: so then spin up an environment to connect to
[04:37] <smallfry> i need a FREE program yo transfer video files from hard drive to a COBY MP3 Player? sny ideas?
[04:37] <zcat[1]_> !ntfs | cute_bettong
[04:37] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: seriously, just read the readme
[04:37] <ubotu> cute_bettong: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[04:37] <__catron3> Steam Machine
[04:37] <DrIP> amenado: ok... pic made
[04:37] <DrIP> amenado: let me upload
[04:38] <orran> egc: I like using solaris more because the system is so what fun to play around with.
[04:38] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: linux doesn't understand ntfs permissions and owners .. so when you mount the filesystem you can specify a single set of permissions and/or a single owner for all the files
[04:38] <BuckWild> no clipboard sharing...seriously, why can't there be a rdesktop equivalent for linux that's free
[04:38] <BuckWild> nomachine is nice
[04:38] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: the like ubout said should explain this better than I can
[04:38] <BuckWild> but it has it's commercial limitations
[04:38] <TrustNoOne> is there a channel for yellow dog?
[04:39] <egc> orran: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/getit/
[04:39] <orran> tritium: anything? :)
[04:39] <Fryguy--> BuckWild: pretty trivial to set up clipboard communications between running x servers
[04:39] <egc> you might like that one too, then
[04:39] <DrIP> amenado: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/860/32451701yw4.png
[04:39] <Meat> Greetings all, so, I've downloaded a plugin for pigeon, but its an i386 plugin, and I'm running AMD64, is there anyway for me to make it work anyhow?
[04:39] <BuckWild> whatevers, I'm not losing another three hours sleep tonight, I'll give that a go tomorrow maybe if I have the time, thanks
[04:39] <sainzeo> Meat: you shouldn't have any problems with an i386 plugin...
[04:39] <cute_bettong> what would be a simple dirty way to do it? im not trying to go through howto's i can view the drive in nautilus but cannot run any of the files or view any of them without dropping to root, and even then it will _not_ give me the permissions to copy all of them to the ubuntu home directory.. i have been struggleing with this for quite some time, >.< lol
[04:39] <tritium> orran: sorry, no.  If you don't use my nick, I'll likely miss some of your messages.
[04:39] <jarn> I have two external drives that, when I try to mount them from the command line, tell me it's already mounted. But it's not.
[04:40] <egc> hehe
[04:40] <Meat> sainzeo: When it pops up to install I get an error telling me "Wrong architecture"
[04:40] <amenado> DrIP now can you ping from ubuntu desktop to the wired router?
[04:40] <sainzeo> Meat: which plugin are you attempting to download for Pidgin?
[04:40] <Fryguy--> Meat: no
[04:40] <__catron3> Steam Machine
[04:40] <DrIP> amenado: no.
[04:40] <Fryguy--> contribute some time and port the plugin to amd64
[04:40] <orran> tritium: kool
[04:40] <Meat> sainzeo: XFire
[04:40] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: from the terminal, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mount/windows -o umask=0   or something close to that
[04:40] <DrIP> amenado: if i enable my wired my internet only goes to the wired
[04:40] <Tann> amenado: my setup is the same as DrIP, except instead of a router i have a switch
[04:41] <shawn__> ?
[04:41] <amenado> DrIP what is the interface name of ubuntu desktop towards the wired router? its ip address?
[04:41] <shawn__> SO WHAT DO I TYPE TO SAVE IT?
[04:41] <orran> egc: when I download open sound how does it run on solaris
[04:41] <DrIP> amenado: eth1 and <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:41] <shawn__> i need the whole code
[04:41] <egc> orran: you use pkgadd to install it
[04:41] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: you could check the manpage for mount, it's explained there too..
[04:41] <Black_Magic> amenado: Yiou here i guess you stoped talking to me because i put my senses together and figured out the Easy fix before reading the guide could you give me link to guide...?
[04:41] <tritium> orran, egc: open solaris is easily discussed in a /query (private message).  Please keep on topic.
[04:41] <amenado> Tann then pay attention and I will be giving similar advise to DrIP
[04:42] <shawn__> how do i save after i use nano
[04:42] <Meat> sainzeo: http://gfire.sourceforge.net/snapshots/ if it helps
[04:42] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: no this script isen't safe, it's asking me if i want to take all my disks (By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[04:42] <shawn__> what do i type
[04:42] <DrIP> amenado: the wireless is wlan0 and <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:42] <cute_bettong> Elphias (elphias)
[04:42] <Fryguy--> doesn't nano have on screen helping listing commands?
[04:42] <orran> tritium
[04:42] <shawn__> they dont work
[04:42] <orran> tritium: OK sorry
[04:42] <amenado> Black_Magic-> what was the issue again? i cant remember what i did five minutes ago
[04:42] <cl1_> hai
[04:42] <sainzeo> Meat: have you tried compiling from the .tar.bz2 file?
[04:42] <cute_bettong> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n) ) this is wrong, it's wanting to handel all disks the same way.. this is not safe it breaks the protection of ubuntu from what i can see.
[04:42] <Fryguy--> considering I _JUST_ opened up nano and _JUST_ saved a file using the command ON THE SCREEN, i'm going to have to say that you are wrong
[04:42] <tritium> orran: no worries, buddy :)
[04:42] <egc> tritium: yes, that was fairer than kicking me
[04:42] <Black_Magic> amenado, remeber my wireless problem...you where right it was the firewall...
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, If it is outside of your/home  you need to edit with sudo nano
[04:43] <amenado> DrIP what is the ip address of the wired router?
[04:43] <DrIP> amenado: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:43] <shawn__> ok
[04:43] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: no, the script will (or should) only be talking about ntfs disks there..
[04:43] <orran> egc: do you want to private message
[04:43] <Fryguy--> Jack_Sparrow: that's not strictly true
[04:43] <Black_Magic> amenado, i downloaded Firstarter a couple months ago...and turned it on by accedent then i ended up  removing firestarting forgetting to turn it off that was my entire problem thats when the problems started
[04:43] <Meat> sainzeo: I have not, I've only tried the .deb
[04:43] <tritium> egc: you were askig for it, but hey, I only removed, and didn't ban :)
[04:43] <tritium> asking*
[04:43] <egc> haha
[04:43] <amenado> Black_Magic its fixed now?
[04:43] <egc> youre just being mean ;)
[04:43] <Black_Magic> amenado, so i reinstalled firestarter i was already connected i just pressed the stop firewall button and vralla...Internet...
[04:43] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: how can i be sure that it's only working on the NTFS disks and not the EXT3 disks? is there a way to tell?
[04:43] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: OK, forget the script... what's the drive that has windows on it. slave drive?
[04:43] <sainzeo> Meat: it probably couldn't hurt to try using the tar package
[04:43] <amenado> DrIp so you cant ping <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Fryguy--, Understood, but in his case he is hitting permissions.. and is true.. I was just generalizing to avoid long explanations
[04:44] <Black_Magic> amenado, mmhmm im scared to reboot because its done this before i have internet i update and upgrade then reboot and back to square one..
[04:44] <DrIP> amenado: no. eth1 is not enabled...
[04:44] <Fryguy--> Jack_Sparrow: there's a difference between generalizing and being wrong
[04:44] <ironeye> Hi there, could anyone tell me if each computer running of the same wireless router have different ip addresses?
[04:44] <Black_Magic> Jack_Sparrow, just to let you know im using Vannilla Ubuntu :P
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Fee free to answer his question and stop being rude
[04:44] <egc> tritium: besides, there may be other ubuntu users dual booting solaris as well, who may benefit from sharing these answers
[04:44] <Fryguy--> ironeye: of course
[04:44] <amenado> Black_Magic-> congrats to figuring out the problem..a lil nudge sometimes helps :P
[04:44] <Meat> sainzeo: alright, ive got the file, lets see if i can remember how this goes....
[04:44] <egc> so, it's a tossup
[04:44] <Black_Magic> amenado, Quote
[04:45] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: yes the drive is setup as the secondary drive...the primary is a sata2 drive and the secondary is an IDE drive on ide channel 1 the drive is called Storage.
[04:45] <sainzeo> Meat: normally you have to first type " ./configure "
[04:45] <david_> I figured out my problem installing drivers for WUSB54G wireless:  (this is dumb:  --->   I was typing:  sudo ndiswrapper -i WUSB54G.inf instead of this --->sudo ndiswrapper -i home/david/Linksys/WUSB54G.inf
[04:45] <ironeye> thats ok then thanks Fryguy
[04:45]  * Black_Magic Amenado, Somtimes the easiest problem is the hardest to figure out.
[04:45] <amenado> DrIP if not enabled how do you expect to ping  <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:45] <Black_Magic> amenado, and or simplest
[04:45] <tritium> egc: No, I wasn't being mean.  You were a bit out of line with your comment.  Peace, let's move on.  Welcome back, friend.
[04:45] <Fryguy--> Jack_Sparrow: also it's quite a security hazard to have people just start sudoing everything.  There's a reason there's a root user and a normal user who doesn' thave root permissiosn
[04:45] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: well it would be ide0 if it where ide only system
[04:45] <orran> tritium: are you running any other types of Linux
[04:45] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: it's already mounted as Storage? that might make things easier...
[04:45] <amenado> Black_Magic-> hardest? try to figure out a woman..hehehe
[04:45] <DrIP> amenado: i can not, if i were to enable it my internet would go down...
[04:45] <Black_Magic> Amenado, do you want my iwconfig ifconfig route -n and cat /etc/resolve.conf
[04:46] <tritium> orran: no, I've used ubuntu exclusively since 2004.
[04:46] <Black_Magic> Amenado, for future refrence..
[04:46] <egc> tritium: agreed. Now in the past
[04:46] <DrIP> amenado: ubuntu chooses the greater speed?
[04:46] <amenado> Black_Magic-> if its resolved, i dont need to see it, besides for future, i cant recall what i did five minutes ago..heh
[04:46] <orran> tritium: how advance is you system
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, what file are you trying to edit and what directory are you trytin to save it in and what error are you getting
[04:46] <jarn> I have two external drives that, when I try to mount them from the command line, I'm told they're already mounted. However, when I try to unmount them, I'm told they're not mounted.
[04:46] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: open a terminal and type: sudo mount /media/Storage -o remount,umask=0
[04:46] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: yea the computer already sees the drive..but won't mount it untill i click places storage then it asks me for my root password to mount the drive.. it's really weard and i have not encounterd the issue before, but it dosen't change the rest of the file permissions untill i do a "sudo nautilus" in terminall
[04:46] <tritium> egc: :)  Agreed, and you're right, there may be people with that very question.  Glad you're here with the experience.
[04:46] <corinne_> Hey guys!
[04:46] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: if that works, it should fix the permissions for you
[04:47] <tritium> orran: I don't understand your question
[04:47] <corinne_> I don't know what I did, but it just suddenly found my drive!
[04:47] <corinne_> yay!
[04:47] <shawn__> IM TRYING TO EDIT MY ATI FILE
[04:47] <amenado> DrIP am confused, why are you not enabling the nic towards the wired router so you can reach cl1 cl2 cl3 ?
[04:47] <shawn__> my xorg config
[04:47] <shawn__> 1st
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, your xorg.conf file ?
[04:47] <Kyro> will Virtual Box allow me to sync iTunes with an iPod? and play my music through Ubuntus ALSA?
[04:47] <shawn__> to set the pci to the right slot
[04:47] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: if that works, it should fix the permissions for you (mount the drive normally, then type what I saud, that should leave the drive mounted but swap the permission mask)
[04:47] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: ok so then i unmount the drive and then remount it?
[04:47] <Black_Magic> amenado, i mean to know what working and not working is..
[04:47] <shawn__> so i can use my graphics card
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, that requires sudo nano.,. as I said earlier/
[04:47] <DrIP> amenado: if i were to enable... i can not access my internet
[04:47] <Meat>  While Im working on that package, any ideas as to why after a couple hours of use my compiz slows to a crawl?
[04:47] <Fryguy--> Kyro: not the free version
[04:47] <orran> tritium: plug-in are you using with you system
[04:47] <shawn__> i know ive done it
[04:48] <shawn__> but i knwo my xserver is going to crash
[04:48] <Kyro> bugger :) thanks Fryguy--
[04:48] <shawn__> i gotta restart
[04:48] <shawn__> brb
[04:48] <orran> tritium: what's you computer Spec's
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, one sec
[04:48] <shawn__> maybe
[04:48] <shawn__> ok?
[04:48] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: if you want it mounted that way permanently and not just for now, that's a little more complex
[04:48] <Kyro> lol shawn__
[04:48] <amenado> DrIP how exactly are you enabling it? are you also changing the route table?
[04:48] <DrIP> amenado: i can deal with that later, i know the other half works, please step me hrough the other stuff
[04:48] <tritium> orran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam (Toshiba Tecra A2)
[04:48] <rarez1> Can anyone help with a Atheros wireless card getting it setup?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, write this down   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max rex.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[04:48] <DrIP> amenado: i just do: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[04:49] <squidink> does gdm spawn a new X session when a user logs in?
[04:49] <shawn__> okay
[04:49] <shawn__> hold on
[04:49] <zcat[1]_> gtg start dinner ... if what I said doesn't work just hang around and someone else will help you :)
[04:49] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: what i was going to do was swap all the perms to me as regular user copy them to my ubuntu drive and use qtparted to reformat the drive ext3 so that it was more linux freindly then again use it as storage.. so i figured things would be easyer on my linuxbox. am i right in assumeing that this is the easyer way...and thank you so much for helping me ^_^
[04:49] <Fryguy--> squidink: no
[04:49] <iobelix> quick question: network manager defaults to a different wireless essid everytime i switch the computer on. i tried running sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "myessid" but have to run this command everytime to be able to connect to my own network (sometimes even this does not work, as trying to connect to my essid simply defaults back to another essid)
[04:49] <amenado> DrIP okay lets step back a lil, paste the ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/resolv.conf  and sudo iptables -vL of your ubuntu desktop
[04:49] <biouser> any idea why my bittorrent downloads don't start?
[04:49] <amenado> DrIP okay lets step back a lil, paste the ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/resolv.conf  and sudo iptables -vL of your ubuntu desktop ..in pastebin okay?
[04:49] <squidink> Is there a way to change the dpi of X without restarting it?
[04:49] <DrIP> ok
[04:49] <orran> tritium: you don't use a desktop
[04:49] <ccvp> is there an open source program to capture FLV streams on the fly(ie: youtube, liveleak, etc), and autoconvert them into standalone FLV files? so can uploadto facebook, or whatever, etc.
[04:50] <Black_Magic> amenado, nice...
[04:50] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: yeah, that's about what I'd do..
[04:50] <corinne_> I think whatayacallit..
[04:50] <tritium> orran: not currently.  I also have a mythbuntu frontend/backend.
[04:50] <corinne_> I think the HAL file manager might have something to do with the SeaAgent thing
[04:50] <robc4> anyone had a problem with the latest ubuntu-docs update?
[04:50] <amenado> Black_Magic-> same steps we went through to resolve network issues..
[04:50] <prateek> hello, i am getting Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmoto/xmoto-data_0.3.2-1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[04:50] <prateek>   while trying to download xmoto
[04:50] <shawn__> ok
[04:50] <shawn__> will do brb
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, If you want someone to look over your xorg.conf       sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[04:50] <prateek> tried apt-get clean and update as well
[04:50] <Black_Magic> amenado, know why i cant set -b "Pastebin URL" for pastebinit to  i finnaly fixed my wireless problem after 2months..
[04:50] <Black_Magic>  and it worked a couple weeks ago i upgraded to Hardy
[04:50] <Black_Magic>  and then rebooted..
[04:50] <Black_Magic>  and vralla back to square one..
[04:50] <Black_Magic>  hopefully it stays fixed but too scared to restart..
[04:50] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: so im on the right track so that command you gave to me should work? or do i have to jump through hoops because of NTFS's crappyness XD lol
[04:50] <FloodBot3> Black_Magic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <prateek> anyone know what seems to be the problem?
[04:51] <iobelix> is there anyway to specify which wireless essid network manager should default to, while retaining the ability to roam and connect to other wireless networks when i wish to?
[04:51] <shawn__> okay
[04:51] <Black_Magic> amenado, didnt mean to re-type that
[04:51] <orran> egc: do you know how to format a hard drive in Linux
[04:51] <shawn__> i might do that if this doesnt work
[04:51] <shawn__> brb
[04:51] <Black_Magic> orran, Gparted..
[04:51] <iobelix> orran, pop in the live cd , hit alt f2 and run gksudo gparted
[04:51] <corinne_> shawn_, don't format it
[04:51] <corinne_> mine just started working
[04:51] <amenado> Black_Magic-> your default policy is DROP in your firewall, you may want to change that to ACCEPT..but it is your call, am assuming you are familiar enuff with firewalls
[04:51] <egc> orran: i use GPartEd
[04:51] <corinne_> there is a way to do it
[04:51] <zcat[1]_> cute_bettong: do the normal click and enter password thing, then open a terminal and type what I saud (sudo mount blah blah..) and that should remount it with permission for everyone to read it.
[04:51] <corinne_> I don't know what I did, but it worked
[04:52] <orran> Black_Magic: Thanks
[04:52] <orran> Bye Back
[04:52] <Black_Magic> amenado, im not...
[04:52] <prateek> hello, i am getting Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmoto/xmoto-data_0.3.2-1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[04:52] <DrIP> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/bR7snQ84.html
[04:53] <xjkx> ubuntu does not boot
[04:53] <iobelix> prateek, try using another ubuntu server to download the package?
[04:53] <amenado> Black_Magic-> the thing is once you flush the iptables, old policies remain, so you may want to set the policies and set the rules
[04:53] <prateek> iobelix, trying with the main server
[04:53] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: so i type sudo /media/Storage -o remount,umask=0
[04:53] <vatzec> (I've said this two days ago AFAIR, but got no answer, hope there's someone here who can help me now) I have a server which I administrate via SSH but the pain is that it's connected via wireless so connection drops occur from time to time, I'm trying to make it perform a check every 5 mins, I've already posted a thread at the Ubuntu forums, but it seems that any topic older than 10 mins with no replies is forgotten (the amount of messages posted it overwh
[04:53] <Black_Magic> amenado,ok in firestarter i went to  policy and changed editing to outbound  and my default is set  permissive by default blacklist traffic...to
[04:54] <prateek> iobelix, still getting some errors from archive.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <squidink> xjkx: yes it does
[04:54] <MagicDuck> does anyone know how to capitalize table names in kexi?
[04:54] <prateek> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[04:54] <amenado> Black_Magic-> i dont use firestarter, i however write my rules manually..so how firestarter write the rulez, thats an extra step to translate
[04:54] <prateek> that
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> xjkx, the livecd or a hard drive install
[04:54] <Fryguy--> vatzec: why not just use screen?
[04:55] <xjkx> squidink, tell me how to quit splash and i tell you where it stop
[04:55] <sainzeo> Meat: how's it going with that tar package?
[04:55] <Black_Magic> amenado oh i see inbound access has a way to add rules
[04:55] <cute_bettong> zcat[1]_: or is it cute_bettong: open a terminal and type: sudo mount  /media/Storage -o remount,umask=0
[04:55] <squidink> xjkx: have you tried selecting recovery mode in the boot menu?
[04:55] <cute_bettong> gah that was dumb
[04:56] <amenado> DrIP once you enable the eth1 of your ubuntu desktop, can you then paste same info I need?  i would like to compare the two..
[04:56] <DrIP> sure
[04:56] <DrIP> this might drop out...
[04:56] <vatzec> Fryguy--: I've just thought that it'd be more effective to run it using cron
[04:56] <xjkx> squidink, there is no recovery mode
[04:56] <egc> hmm...coffee
[04:56] <prateek> anyone know why?
[04:56] <tritium> xjkx: yes, there is
[04:56] <amenado> DrIp thats okay, put it in a file and then just append it to the previous one..and deactivate eth1 to get back if you must
[04:57] <Fryguy--> vatzec: oh, i misunderstood you, i thought the problem was that you kept getting disconnected and you needed a way to see that and/or reconnect
[04:57] <Meat> sainzeo: slow as can be, my compiz has decided to start lagging...  anyhow, i unpacked, ./configured, but there is a dependency im resolving now
[04:57] <xjkx> start or install ubuntu // start ubuntu in safe graphic // install with driver update cd // OEM install // check cd for defect // memory test // boot from hard disk
[04:57] <xjkx> which of them
[04:57] <DrIP> hey! it still works
[04:57] <sainzeo> Meat: sounds good
[04:57] <vatzec> Fryguy--: well, actually it is, but I don't get disconnected to often, just *quite* often, and since the computer is acting as a server and I have no way to administrate it but via SSH this is really a pain
[04:58] <xphox> whoami
[04:58] <Fryguy--> vatzec: screen will solve most of that
[04:58] <Jack_Sparrow> xjkx, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[04:58] <Meat> sainzeo: I'm gonna restart x real quick to get compiz back to speed, brb
[04:58] <Fryguy--> vatzec: btw what is the point of having a server on a very unreliable connection?
[04:58] <sainzeo> Meat: k
[04:58] <vatzec> Fryguy--: so do you suggesting constantly pinging the router? wouldn't that be too messy?
[04:58] <Fryguy--> i suggest using screen to get your work done
[04:58] <ionstorm> what is a good ubuntu media center
[04:59] <ionstorm> that works
[04:59] <squidink> xjkx: ah; you're using the liveCD. have you tried safe graphics mode?
[04:59] <tritium> ionstorm: mythbuntu
[04:59] <vatzec> you see it's not hosting anything important, so I don't really need to be sure that it works, but it's be way more convenient if I didn't have to go to the basement to reboot it every time it disconnects
[04:59] <amenado> DrIP oh another thing <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 wlan0   a metric of 100 will stop you cold from getting anywhere
[04:59] <ionstorm> tritium, I dont want it for tv
[04:59] <ionstorm> I want it to index my movies in .avi
[04:59] <vatzec> that occurs like once per week/two weeks, it really varies
[04:59] <vatzec> anyway it's a pain
[04:59] <ionstorm> does mythbuntu support that?
[04:59] <tritium> ionstorm: it has many capabilities, including videos
[04:59] <squidink> xjkx: have you already installed on the hard disk, or are you trying to boot off the liveCD?
[04:59] <ionstorm> ok
[04:59] <ionstorm> tritium, thnx
[05:00] <murlidhar> how can i install ant?
[05:00] <Fryguy--> vatzec: or take the time to run a wired connection to it, can't be that bad
[05:00] <tritium> ionstorm: I suggest reading up on mythv a bit before diving in.
[05:00] <amenado> Ubuntu ought to fix that bug ... using ifdown ethX ; ifup ethX  adds that metric 100.. a nasty one..
[05:00] <vatzec> it's loud as heck you see :P that's why I have moved it to the basement
[05:00] <murlidhar> cuz when i give ./compile in terminal it says "ant not found"
[05:00] <Fryguy--> or put a wireless router/wap in front of it and use a wired connection, and let the wirelessrouter/wap handle renegotiating the wireless
[05:01] <murlidhar> murlidhar@murlidhar-desktop:~/Cabos-0.7.8-SourceCode/Cabos SourceCode/CabosCore/core$ ./compile
[05:01] <murlidhar> ./compile: 9: ant: not found
[05:01] <shawn__> im back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <Fryguy--> murlidhar: apt-get install ant ???
[05:01] <shawn__> i made it through the storm
[05:01] <ionstorm> tritium, thnx
[05:01] <shawn__> but my res is way high
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, So that got you in right
[05:01] <shawn__> and it says its low when i look into changining it
[05:01] <shawn__> no
[05:01] <tritium> !enter | shawn__
[05:01] <ubotu> shawn__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:01] <shawn__> i dind thave to use that
[05:02] <shawn__> oops sry
[05:02] <murlidhar> Fryguy--, oops thanks
[05:02] <DrIP> maybe not...
[05:02] <DrIP> amenado: back
[05:02] <Black_Magic> amenado, what was that iptables command..?
[05:02] <vatzec> Fryguy--: there's gotta be a way to do that though without buying additional hardware
[05:02] <Black_Magic> amenado, that told you my firewall was doing it
[05:02] <egc> tritium: i'm outties...nice meeting you ;)
[05:02] <vatzec> it's a simple script, I just don't know why it doesn't work
[05:02] <shawn__> i just reconfigured my x server thought node
[05:02] <tritium> Nice to meet you, egc :)
[05:02] <shawn__> and that worked
[05:02] <xjkx> squidink, trying to boot the live
[05:02] <amenado> Black_Magic for which? to see the existing rules and policies?  iptables -vL
[05:02] <Fryguy--> vatzec: there probably is, but routers are cheap, your time is expensive, makes sense to make a small investment to save yourself hassle
[05:02] <shawn__> i also chnaged my bios  to pci
[05:03] <DrIP> amenado: help...
[05:03] <shawn__> how do i check if i have 3d enabled?
[05:03] <DrIP> amenado: ff isn't leting my outside...
[05:03] <amenado> DrIP  have you read what i have posted ? please scroll back
[05:03] <vatzec> Fryguy--: I'd rather keep on searching for a way to solve it with just the software, thanks for the chat though :)
[05:03] <Wisteso> if 3d is enabled then compiz will work
[05:03] <DrIP> amenado: it dropped out
[05:04] <shawn__> where is compiz?
[05:04] <Fryguy--> shawn__: ?
[05:04] <Fryguy--> fryguy-desktop:~$ whereis compiz
[05:04] <Fryguy--> compiz: /usr/bin/compiz /usr/bin/compiz.real /usr/lib/compiz /usr/include/compiz /usr/share/compiz /usr/share/man/man1/compiz.1.gz
[05:04] <dbmoodb> can i get iceweasel on gutsy ?
[05:04] <DrIP> ohh
[05:04] <amenado> Black_Magic-> iptables -vL only tells you what the existing rulez are, but it requires knowledge to interpret the rules to make sense of the effects
[05:04] <Wisteso> compiz, aka the desktop effects
[05:04] <tritium> dbmoodb: no, firefox
[05:05] <dbmoodb> ....
[05:05] <aartanek> sainzeo:  *facepalm*  and for all that, it finally ends up failing because "gaim" not found...  because its called pigeon now
[05:05] <dbmoodb> rofl its still icweasel
[05:05] <DrIP> amenado: mind if i pm you?
[05:05] <xjkx> i will try again
[05:05] <xjkx> be right back
[05:06] <amenado> DrIP yes, i think Tann is watching us, so he can learn
[05:06] <shawn__> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[05:06] <shawn__> No whitelisted driver found
[05:06] <shawn__> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[05:06] <sainzeo> aartanek: crap
[05:06] <squidink> vatzec: so you want to check if the link is up, and if not, reboot? or re-negotiate the link?
[05:06] <DrIP> ok...
[05:06] <amenado> DrIP so its best to stay on channel
[05:06] <DrIP> yes...
[05:06] <Tann> DrIP: YEes
[05:06] <vatzec> squidink: reconnect, yeah
[05:06] <Black_Magic> amenado, trying to figyure out how to pipe them all to a txt file so i can compare all those ifconfig ifconfig route -n iptables -vL when and if internet stops working.
[05:06] <dbmoodb> i will google
[05:06] <dbmoodb> !google
[05:06] <quentusrex> I have two graphics cards in my desktop. I've just installed ubuntu gutsy x386. What driver do I need for the ATI  RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] video card? and which driver for the  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] card?
[05:06] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[05:06] <aartanek> sainzeo: It says I can adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH, but i'm not entirely sure how to do that
[05:06] <Black_Magic> amenado, to see if they match
[05:06] <squidink> what are you using to manage the wireless connection?
[05:06] <quentusrex> Should I install the restricted driver for ati cards?
[05:06] <sainzeo> aartanek: i'm not either :-/
[05:06] <tritium> quentusrex: if you need it
[05:06] <DrIP> amenado: <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1          <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[05:06] <Tann> DrIP: i meant yes if you didn't guess
[05:06] <Black_Magic> !ati > quentusrex
[05:06] <vatzec> squidink: erm... the console :D
[05:07] <amenado> Black_Magic  sample...   ifconfig  >> testfile.txt ;   iwconfig  >> testfile.txt
[05:07] <murlidhar> this is the error i get when i try to compile what is the problem?         http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59999/
[05:07] <sainzeo> aartanek: is there perhaps a readme file located in the TAR package?
[05:07] <squidink> vatzec: as in network manager or /etc/network
[05:07] <shawn__> my screen and graphioces prefrences show nothing
[05:07] <shawn__> but my card is working
[05:07] <vatzec> squidink: /etc/network
[05:07] <amenado> DrIP that is difficult to read, please put it in pastebin
[05:07] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  should I install the binary driver? or should I go with something else?
[05:07] <DrIP> amenado: if you lay that out, i put a bunch of space between the 2 lines
[05:07] <squidink> and what happens when it drops the connection?
[05:08] <amenado> DrIP so things are lined up..hard to read a paste on the channel
[05:08] <DrIP> amenado: i'm 'being stopped cold'
[05:08] <vatzec> hmm.
[05:08] <vatzec> squidink: never tried that network manager thing
[05:08] <DrIP> (metric of 100 now)
[05:08] <aartanek> sainzeo: there is, but it is more release info than install help
[05:08] <vatzec> squidink: isn't it for GUI users though?
[05:08] <squidink> vatzec: it's nice that it's there but not that useful unless you're roaming
[05:08] <squidink> vatzec: there is a gui interface, but it's much bigger than that
[05:08] <vatzec> squidink: yeah what I've read here so far it's for laptop users and such
[05:09] <amenado> DrIP you are stopped because your 1)  your ip address has changed   you use to have <IP_ADDRESS> as gateway
[05:09] <squidink> vatzec: do the logfiles suggest any reasons the connection is dropping out in the first place?
[05:09] <DrIP> amenado: humm....
[05:09] <quentusrex> Is there some reason not to go with the restricted binary drivers???
[05:09] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Are you sure you cant just go to Restricted Driver Manager and click your Driver if they arent there go with the ATI drivers
[05:10] <amenado> DrIP  on the wireless side you are using DHCP yes?
[05:10] <tritium> quentusrex: if the open-source driver works for you, and you don't need 3D acceleration.
[05:10] <DrIP> amenado: temp. yes...
[05:10] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: System -> Administrator -> Restricted Driver Manager (Note You will have to type your password)
[05:10] <amenado> DrIP what do you meant temp. ?
[05:10] <vatzec> squidink: can't really tell, didn't check 'em but I'm almost but certain that this is the poor signal strength
[05:10] <quentusrex> Alright, so the restricted driver isn't the ATI driver that Dev's won't help support?
[05:10] <DrIP> i'm planning to switch to a perm 192,168.1.55
[05:10] <tritium> quentusrex: right
[05:11] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Exactly
[05:11] <quentusrex> aaah, ok.
[05:11] <squidink> vatzec: I'd a guessed that it should re-connect... though I could be wrong
[05:11] <quentusrex> Then I'll install the restricted driver...
[05:11] <amenado> DrIP and your AP will allocate that, or reserve that for you?
[05:11] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: if in Ubuntu Repos or in restricted driver manager then its supported
[05:11] <quentusrex> ok, thanks.
[05:11] <aartanek> quentusrex: and it works rather well, im using it right now, and for once compiz works nice and smooth
[05:11] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Simple just click the lil tick spot to enable and it will automaticly install
[05:11] <DrIP> amenado: no, i have to do that
[05:11] <vatzec> squidink: I remember setting this up on my sister's PC but back then I've just made her a script which she'd run once it disconnect
[05:11] <vatzec> -ed.
[05:11] <DrIP> amenado: it's a manual static
[05:11] <sainzeo> aartanek: let me see if i can try installing it...
[05:12] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: You may have to click a couple things tho
[05:12] <quentusrex> Now, I have two graphics cards and one monitor attached to each card. How do I configure the second card and monitor?
[05:12] <squidink> vatzec: something like "ifdown eth1; ifup eth1" ?
[05:12] <vatzec> just iwconfig essid AFAIR
[05:13] <amenado> DrIP thats fine, but lets get your dhcp stuff working for now
[05:13] <aartanek> sainzeo: alright, ill hold off while you do that before i start asking people about the package path
[05:13] <DrIP> amenado: ok...
[05:13] <Lam> i need help increasing the volume of my microphone. it's too soft/low.  i tried the alsamixer's mic boost, but it's still rather soft
[05:13] <sainzeo> aartanek: did you install pidgin from the repo's or manually compiled?
[05:13] <greencookie> has anyone got netgear wireless wg111 usb dongle to work with linux?:D
[05:13] <tritium> sainzeo: pidgin is installed by default
[05:13] <sainzeo> tritium: oh yeah, duh lol
[05:13] <sainzeo> sorry
[05:13] <Black_Magic> greencookie: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[05:14] <aartanek> =P
[05:14] <greencookie> Black_Magic: in fact I have. Which driver did you use?
[05:14] <amenado> DrIP do this  sudo  dhclient wlan0
[05:14] <DrIP> ok
[05:14] <squidink> vatzec: so you want something like "ROUTER=<IP_ADDRESS>; if ping -c 1 $ROUTER;  iwconfig essid AFAIR; fi"
[05:14] <Black_Magic> greencookie: Do you have the CD that came with the card...? if so find the driver trying to remeber the extention it has..
[05:14] <amenado> DrIP can your ubuntu  reach the internet now?
[05:14] <tritium> sainzeo: :)
[05:15] <DrIP_> ok
[05:15] <greencookie> Black_Magic unfortunately I dont:(
[05:15] <DrIP_> 1 sec lag thi
[05:15] <DrIP_> *tho
[05:15] <vatzec> squidlink: ideally -c 3
[05:15] <orran> tritium: I'm Back nothing working to format my hard drive
[05:15] <vatzec> squidink: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725364
[05:15] <DrIP_> ahh better
[05:15] <orran> egc: I'm back nothing working right
[05:15] <tritium> orran: no?
[05:15] <Black_Magic> greencookie: Find the .inf and .sys.... hmm Have you tried googling for the drivers of that card... Somthing like  Windows Drivers for such and such card download...?
[05:15] <tritium> !format | orran
[05:15] <ubotu> orran: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:15] <squidink> vatzec: actually that should be "if [ ! ping -c 1 $ROUTER ];"
[05:15] <Black_Magic> greencookie: Or try the Cards company website..
[05:15] <tritium> orran: you tried all those suggestions above?
[05:15] <DrIP_> amenado: ok done
[05:16] <vatzec> squidink: why is that?
[05:16] <amenado> DrIP can your ubuntu  reach the internet now?
[05:16] <DrIP_> amenado: yes
[05:16] <squidink> vatzec: 0 is true in bash
[05:16] <amenado> DrIP-> then paste those info I requested..so I can compare
[05:16] <Black_Magic> !DiskMounter
[05:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[05:16] <squidink> vatzec: ping returns 0 if it worked
[05:16] <shawn__> okay
[05:16] <vatzec> squidink: yeah, I know, but did you mean the "!", the "-c 1" or the "[ ]"s :P
[05:16] <shawn__> my xserver crashed
[05:16] <DrIP_> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/xM3uZH63.html
[05:16] <shawn__> so i followed your advice
[05:17] <orran> ubotu: Anything else because it's not working
[05:17] <shawn__> on selecting the driver
[05:17] <shawn__> so now im back
[05:17] <nomic> run a fsck then try reinserting  your graphics card shawn
[05:17] <squidink> vatzec: so you have to negate it. bash doesn't have an inverse (i.e. !), so you have to use the test command, which is abbreviated to [
[05:17] <orran> tritium: yeah it not doing it.
[05:17] <tritium> orran: hmm...
[05:17] <squidink> vatzec: (try man test)
[05:17] <vatzec> squidink: I know what the []s are, but I didn't know you have to make it test-ping
[05:18] <vatzec> thought that ping is enuff
[05:18] <vatzec> didn't ever write a proper bash script, that's probably why :P
[05:18] <Short> Hi there, is there anyway to change ident when using xchat on ubuntu?
[05:18] <amenado> DrIP you can reach the internet from ubuntu even with metric == 100  ?
[05:18] <quentusrex> I have two radeon cards in my desktop. How do I enable the second one?
[05:18] <Short> I need to change ident to connect to my bouncer
[05:18] <DrIP_> yes
[05:18] <shawn__> how do i test if  i have 3d graphics working
[05:18] <vatzec> alright, lemme test that
[05:18] <nomic> try loading some desktop effects shawn
[05:18] <squidink> vatzec: anyway, your reconnect script should work if you put [ ] around the ping
[05:18] <shawn__> ok
[05:18] <quentusrex> Thanks Black_Magic, because now my left monitor works beautifully.
[05:19] <vatzec> squidink: alright, if I don't come back in 5 mins the network's dead :D
[05:19] <vatzec> squidink: thanks a lot for your time
[05:19] <DrIP_> amenado: my routing table changed again... you want an update?
[05:19] <Short> DrIP was that a response to my question or someone else's?
[05:19] <amenado> DrIP odd but i cant argue...can you ping your wired router now?
[05:19] <squidink> vatzec: so it should read if [ ! ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> ]
[05:19] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Cool. So you got it all working?
[05:19] <nomic>   quentusrex save yourself you're xconfig file /x11/xfree xconfig
[05:19] <squidink> vatzec: AND IT NEEDS A SPACE after the [
[05:19] <shawn__> nope they didnt work
[05:19] <amenado> DrIP i asked you to paste the latest update, so I can compare..
[05:19] <DrIP_> amenado: no. i was stopped cold... from everything
[05:19] <nomic> best to leave it on email
[05:19] <DrIP_> Short: no
[05:19] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN and i've done everything it says but when i run ssh host -w0:0 the tun0 interfaces arent created
[05:19] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  the first monitor works, but I still need to get my second ati card working so I can enable my second monitor.
[05:19] <shawn__> so how do i finish setting up my ati card
[05:19] <quentusrex> I have dual monitors side by side.
[05:20] <Short> DrIP_ ok thanks
[05:20] <nomic> aticonfig is the program to set up aticards
[05:20] <DrIP_> amenado: i had to disable my eth1 to get back here...
[05:20] <shawn__> in the reconfigure it said i had no p-high
[05:20] <shawn__> how do i get that
[05:20] <shawn__> aticonfig
[05:20] <nomic> type it
[05:20] <tritium> nomic: no, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:20] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Did you reboot after enabling the driver..?
[05:20] <shawn__> where?
[05:20] <amenado> DrIP-> okay paste those info I requested.. so i can make sense out of it
[05:20] <orran> any one with any bright Ideas
[05:20] <orran> on my problem
[05:20] <DrIP_> amenado:  http://rafb.net/p/bxnoGU86.html    <--- that config works
[05:21] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  yes I rebooted.
[05:21] <jscinoz> what am i doign wrong >_<
[05:21] <DrIP_> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/xM3uZH63.html    <--- This config DOES NOT
[05:21] <amenado> DrIP and thats your current one right?
[05:21] <DrIP_> yes
[05:21] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Wow that was fast....usualy takes me about 3-4mins to reboot select Ubuntu and then wait for the thing to finish and then login and then open up Xchat or irssi :P
[05:21] <murlidhar_> is it possible to install java 6 jre through wine?/
[05:22] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  This is my new birthday present computer.
[05:22] <murlidhar_> actually a windows application requires java to run
[05:22] <amenado> DrIP-> i advised that because of metric = 100   it stops you cold.    see -->  <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 wlan0
[05:22] <quentusrex> dual monitors with 1680x1050 sitting side by side.
[05:23] <quentusrex> 22 inch widescreen monitors. But cheap graphics cards.
[05:23] <amenado> DrIP paste your  /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:23] <amrit> oh noses
[05:23] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: My Birthday is Tommrow :P
[05:23] <amenado> DrIP that was line 34 btw of your latest paste
[05:23] <DrIP__> eep
[05:23] <shawn__> okay
[05:23] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  How do I enable my second video card? so I can extend my desktop onto both monitors?
[05:23] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: im gunna get my self a nice Sprint card... and then try and figure out how to use it in Ubuntu
[05:23] <DrIP__> my xchat died
[05:23] <shawn__> there are somnewer drivers i need
[05:23] <fismoll8> anyone here use nx server
[05:23] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Second googling
[05:23] <shawn__> some newer
[05:24] <sainzeo> aartanek: you did receive the glib-2.0 dependency error, right?
[05:24] <DrIP__> amenado:  please say that gain :-)
[05:24] <shawn__> im downloading them
[05:24] <amenado> DrIP that was line 34 btw of your latest paste
[05:24] <shawn__> how do u install them though
[05:24] <amenado> DrIP-> i advised that because of metric = 100   it stops you cold.    see -->  <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 wlan0
[05:24] <aartanek> sainzeo: yes, I got that resolved though
[05:24] <sainzeo> aartanek: k
[05:24] <orran> Peace
[05:24] <DrIP__> amenado: ahh.. and what do you propse i do?
[05:25] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Read this and come back if it doesnt work its a lil outdated but i found it https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/075239.html
[05:25] <amenado> DrIP-> get your paypal account ready to xfer some to mine
[05:25] <DrIP__> amenado: i have not changed a thing, i just ifconfig up and down
[05:25] <bemanuel> hello
[05:25] <bemanuel> i know that its a stupid question
[05:25] <DrIP__> amenado: :p
[05:25] <bemanuel> but
[05:25] <bemanuel> i have a dual core
[05:25] <bemanuel> notebook
[05:25] <amenado> DrIP paste your  /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:25] <bemanuel> its better i use a 386 distro
[05:26] <bemanuel> or the 64 bits distro?
[05:26] <tritium> bemanuel: most choose to run the 32 bit version
[05:26] <bemanuel> why?
[05:26] <bemanuel> because the jvm and plugins?
[05:26] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: And this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707170 Also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 and http://www.mydatabasesupport.com/forums/linux-misc/200728-ubuntu-external-monitor-laptop.html
[05:26] <DrIP__> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/CwZc7Z82.html
[05:26] <tritium> bemanuel: there is little performance gain for the 64 bit version, and the reason you just hit on above
[05:27] <bemanuel> okay
[05:27] <shawn__> when i try to configure my ati card it does this shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[05:27] <shawn__> Warning: Could not find configuration file
[05:27] <shawn__> Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[05:27] <shawn__> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$
[05:27] <bemanuel> thnx so much
[05:27] <tritium> shawn__: please don't use aticonfig
[05:27] <shawn__> ohh sry
[05:27] <bemanuel> shawn_: use the envy package
[05:27] <shawn__> what should i do
[05:28] <Black_Magic> shawn__DONT USE THAT!
[05:28] <Black_Magic> shawn__You may loose support.
[05:28] <shawn__> what should i use
[05:28] <tritium> shawn__: you can if you like, but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is the recommended approach
[05:28] <bemanuel> if you use envy?
[05:28] <amenado> DrIP-> comment out line 10,11,12  and add      metric 0
[05:28] <shawn__> i did that
[05:28] <Black_Magic> Shawn__ATI Config or sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg
[05:28] <tritium> avoid envy also
[05:28] <TrustNoOne> is there a channel for yellow dog?
[05:28] <shawn__> but it doesnt support 3d
[05:28] <bemanuel> tritium: envy doen work?
[05:28] <shawn__> i need 3d
[05:28] <DrIP__> amenado: ok
[05:28] <tritium> !envy
[05:28] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:28] <Black_Magic> bemanuel: Envy and Automatix are not Supported
[05:28] <shawn__> i dunno
[05:29] <shawn__> i havent used envy
[05:29] <shawn__> what should i use for atix1300
[05:29] <shawn__> for 3d support
[05:29] <zcat[1]> which is safer? envy or installing nvidia's binary package by hand?
[05:29] <Black_Magic> shawn__, Manlly because they can mess up your system beyound your wildest dreams
[05:29] <shawn__> 3d gl open
[05:29] <shawn__> i can setup 3d manuely?
[05:29] <tritium> shawn__: please remember the request about !enter
[05:29] <DrIP__> amenado: done
[05:30] <bemanuel> tritium: it works to me
[05:30] <Black_Magic> zcat[1]: You look in Restricted Driver Manager to see if you can just click a tick box to download and enable drivers...?
[05:30] <bemanuel> tritium: and the perfomance its better
[05:30] <tritium> !worksforme | bemanuel
[05:30] <ubotu> bemanuel: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[05:30] <amenado> DrIP do this  sudo  dhclient wlan0
[05:30] <shawn__> what should i use guys
[05:30] <bemanuel> sorry
[05:30] <DrIP__> done
[05:30] <tritium> bemanuel: no worries
[05:31] <DrIP__> woo no dropout
[05:31] <zcat[1]> Black_Magic: that doesn't work for 880GT or whatever is the card I was working with a while back ... nvidia_glx_new was not new enough apparently. Unless I missed something else
[05:31] <tritium> shawn__: the debian/ubuntu method is to use dpkg-reconfigure
[05:31] <amenado> DrIP-> okay paste those info I requested.. so i can compare
[05:31] <shawn__> okay?
[05:31] <DrIP__> ok
[05:31] <zcat[1]> Err 8800GT I think it was
[05:31] <shawn__> i have it configured
[05:31] <Black_Magic> zcat[1]: Then download and make it from scratch your safe with that
[05:31] <shawn__> but 3d gl isnt working
[05:31] <tritium> shawn__: what does "glxinfo | grep rendering" tell you?
[05:32] <zcat[1]> Black_Magic: that breaks with evry reboot though unless you remove some other package. And it still breaks with every kernel upgrade too.
[05:32] <shawn__> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:32] <shawn__> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[05:32] <Black_Magic> zcat[1]: Hmm...
[05:32] <DrIP__> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/FdYAmb85.html
[05:32] <tritium> shawn__: yes, you don't have 3D support enabled.  Take a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:32] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  I still have a problem with the two video cards.
[05:33] <navilon> is there a command line utility that will profile my system
[05:33] <zcat[1]> yeah.. in the ned I did it that way and told the guy what he'd have to do if it broke again... not the best solution :(
[05:33] <shawn__> how do i look at that
[05:33] <zcat[1]> s/ned/end
[05:33] <tritium> navilon: profile it in what way?
[05:33] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Well im stomped you have as much  ways to get information as i do...i gave you about 4 links..
[05:33] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  I have one card enabled that works great. But my second card isn't 'enabled'.
[05:33] <navilon> tritium: just tell me the type of hardware i have
[05:33] <tritium> navilon: lshw
[05:33] <zcat[1]> best solution would be for nvidia to make their drivers OSS.. :)
[05:34] <Black_Magic> quentusrex, im pretty sure it all balls down to adding something to xorg.conf
[05:34] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  I'm in the same boat as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707170
[05:34] <navilon> tritium: thanks :)
[05:34] <shawn__> okay im looking at it
[05:34] <tritium> navilon: :)
[05:34] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Hmm....do a lspci -v |grep ati
[05:34] <bemanuel> tritium: thnx
[05:34] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: then pastebin it
[05:34] <amenado> DrIp still able to reach the internet right?
[05:35] <DrIP__> amenado: yes
[05:35] <shawn__> tritum im lookin at xorg.0.log
[05:35] <shawn__> now whats next?
[05:35] <DrIP__> amenado: up my eth1 ?
[05:35] <amenado> DrIP yes bring it up
[05:35] <tritium> shawn__: (EE) indicate errors.  (WW) are warnings.  Look first for errors.
[05:35] <DrIP__> amenado: done
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, What video card are you running
[05:36] <amenado> DrIp still able to reach the internet ?
[05:36] <shawn__> atix1300
[05:36] <DrIP__> amenado: yes
[05:36] <quentusrex> which pastebin?
[05:36] <shawn__> (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found
[05:36] <shawn__> thats my onboard
[05:36] <amenado> DrIP what is the ip address assigned to your eth1?
[05:36] <tritium> shawn__: did you run through "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:36] <DrIP__> amenado: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:36] <spartan7> can i add this channel to favorites in xchat?
[05:36] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN and i've done everything it says but when i run ssh host -w0:0 the tun0 interfaces arent created, what am i doing wrong?
[05:37] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Then give me the link so i can figure out a way to interpit the thing into the xorg.conf i know your gunna have to put Device Ect ect ect...
[05:37] <orran> hey
[05:37] <amenado> DrIp can you ping the wired router now? cl1 ? cl2? cl3?
[05:37] <DrIP__> amenado: i will try...
[05:37] <orran> Anybody using SCSI hard drives
[05:37] <shawn__> no
[05:37] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  which pastebin site?
[05:37] <shawn__> how do i run through sudo
[05:37] <shawn__> i dpkg through sudo
[05:37] <tritium> orran: are you sure you're using scsi?  Drives now appear as /dev/sdX, even though they're not scsi.
[05:38] <tritium> shawn__: just like I showed you
[05:38] <shawn__> yea
[05:38] <shawn__> i  did that
[05:38] <DrIP__> amenado: YES!
[05:38] <shawn__> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[05:38] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Any of your choice your gunna have to add that Device Identifier and Driver to xorg.conf im thinking  Under section "Device" put identifier (Your Card name from the lspci then driver fglrx
[05:38] <crashhandler> there are 'boxes\lines' effect on my desktop while minimizing or maximizing the windows.....how to fix that?
[05:38] <amenado> DrIP problem solved?
[05:38] <shawn__> (WW) VESA(0): Option "UseFBDev" is not used
[05:38] <Tann> DrIP: What command are you using to enable eth1?
[05:38] <shawn__> those are all of the ww's
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, he needs to run fglrx and xgl on that...
[05:39] <DrIP__> amenado: no... i need to route internet from my cl1,2,3 to the internet
[05:39] <Black_Magic> DrIP: ifconfig eth1 up?
[05:39] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: good call.  Can you assist, please?  I need to head to bed.
[05:39] <flyback-> hey I deleted my main user user on ubuntu then recreated it with useradd but it appears it broken some stuff
[05:39] <DrIP__> Tann: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[05:39] <orran> tritium: No I use 2 IDE Hard Drives one not formated and the system won't let me
[05:39] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  http://pastebin.com/d4ab89905
[05:39] <flyback-> what do I need to get a stock user created the way ubutnu wants
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, I was heading that way myself  but I can give him the basics and my notes
[05:39] <Fryguy--> flyback-: "broken some sutff" isn't very descriptive
[05:39] <shawn__> how do i run that?
[05:40] <DrIP__> Black_Magic:  yes, just my fingers cramped up lol
[05:40] <flyback-> broken sudo, my shell doesn't default to bash and I can't acesss sound
[05:40] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: ah, sorry.  Thanks.
[05:40] <amenado> DrIP__-> okay get to one of your cl  and ping your ubuntu  <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:40] <Black_Magic> DrIP__: :P
[05:40]  * tritium bids good night to #ubuntu
[05:40] <DrIP__> amenado: yea works fine
[05:40] <shawn__> okay so jack are you going to help me out?
[05:40] <DrIP__> Black_Magic: lol it happens
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60000/   my notes
[05:41] <Fryguy--> flyback-: add yourself to the adm, admin, and audio groups
[05:41] <flyback-> how do I do that
[05:41] <DrIP> yes perfect
[05:41] <amenado> DrIP__-> on those cl  can you paste the   cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:41] <DrIP> amenado: now how can i route my internet packet to the internet via my ubuntu
[05:41] <shawn__> okay
[05:41] <DrIP> ok
[05:41] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Hmm what car is working and whitch is not and then take that name put it in your xorg.conf under device  put Identifier "(Your Device name)" Then under that put Driver "fglrx" if its ATI card
[05:41] <shawn__> i am at that link
[05:41] <Fryguy--> flyback-: edit /etc/groups, use the users and groups administration tool, use the adduser command, whatever
[05:42] <amenado> DrIP-> just follow along we'll get there
[05:42] <Black_Magic> amenado: He has a worse problem then me eh atm thats what we think anyways :P
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx       then       sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[05:42] <amenado> Black_Magic-> nothing insurmountable.. i hope :P
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, read that link I gave tritium and edit your xorg accordingly
[05:42] <flyback-> that's not showing up hmm
[05:42] <Black_Magic> amenado, have you tried to tell him try downloading firestarter then clicking stop firewall?
[05:43] <kris_ph> Jack_Sparrow: hello!
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kris_ph, Hello.. and goodnight
[05:43] <shawn__> how do i edit?
[05:43] <orran> IDE Hard Drive Help Please
[05:43] <shawn__> node?
[05:43] <Black_Magic> amenado, im still scared to Reboot :P...
[05:43] <xb3rt> Im trying to extract a vmware virtual machine zip file for red hat and am getting a weird error.                    skipping: Red Hat Linux (4)-flat.vmdk  need PK compat. v4.5 (can do v2.1)
[05:43] <xb3rt>    skipping: Red Hat Linux-flat.vmdk  need PK compat. v4.5 (can do v2.1)
[05:43] <xb3rt>     How do I fix this
[05:43] <DrIP> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/ntEuSU35.html
[05:43] <amenado> Black_Magic-> i never recommend those front ends..i advise learning the basics of iptables
[05:43] <DrIP> sourry mate, but i have to type everything out on my cls now
[05:44] <mzuverink> can anyone point me in the right direction on installing a Linksys WPC54GX Wireless card, Device Manager reports the device as AGN100 802.11 a/b/g True MIMO Wireless Card" and the vendor as Air Networks INC?
[05:44] <jetscreamer> pk zip?
[05:44] <Black_Magic> amenado: I know but that was the only way i fixed it ti would of taken another 3Months to figure it out and figure how to manually edit iptables :P...
[05:44] <imyousuf> currently when I login to my ubuntu I have to do "configfile (hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst" as I blew up the partition that had the default grub menu.lst installed. How can I tell grub to always use the menu.lst I am using referring to now?
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> shawn__, gksudo edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    hint.. it is also in those notes
[05:44] <shawn__> what do i use to edit
[05:44] <shawn__> gksudo doesnt work
[05:44] <amenado> DrIP-> do this   sudo  echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:44] <zhangmaodi> ^_oo_^
[05:44] <shawn__> im  on edubuntu
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[05:45] <DrIP> amenado: in ubuntu or darwin?
[05:45] <Black_Magic> amenado, what does that command do?
[05:45] <shawn__> its sudo node
[05:45] <shawn__> or somehting with an n
[05:45] <Black_Magic> DRIP, Whats Darwin...?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo nano
[05:45] <DrIP> Black_Magic: Mac
[05:45] <shawn__> nano
[05:45] <shawn__> ok
[05:45] <amenado> Black_Magic-> if you type that in on google, it has a nice explanations... :P
[05:45] <amenado> DrIP-> on the ubuntu
[05:45] <DrIP> kk
[05:46] <DrIP> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[05:46] <Black_Magic> DRIP, Err so.... Mac OSX...? i thought it was a Linux Distro LOL
[05:46] <rryan> imyousuf : grub-install is the command you want. But first, please clarify. When you boot up, you need to instruct grub to use that config file before you can get to your login screen?
[05:46] <Black_Magic> DRIP, Do sudo..
[05:46] <DrIP> i did...
[05:46] <Black_Magic> DrIP: Oh ok...then idk..
[05:47] <imyousuf> rryan: yes I need to do "configfile (hd0)/boot/grub/menu.lst" this before I get the options and on selecting option I get the OS to start
[05:47] <amenado> DrIP-> what command you typed exactly?
[05:47] <DrIP> amenado: root@alps-server:/home/amrit# echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:47] <flyback-> well that fixed some stuff such as audio but not all
[05:47] <rryan> imyousuf : if you have a single hard drive, and you know which one it is, say /dev/hda, then you can type 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda' and it should do the rest. This is assuming that the system you have booted has the appropriate grub menu.lst in /boot/grub.
[05:47] <flyback-> :/
[05:48] <amenado> DrIP-> do this   sudo  echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward              noticed the sudo?
[05:48] <flyback-> most of system admin is still missing etc
[05:48] <DrIP> amenado: i did that under root
[05:48] <flyback-> so there must be another group I need to add too
[05:48] <amenado> DrIP put a space after 1,  my typo
[05:48] <DrIP> ahh
[05:48] <m1sters1n1st3r> what program do you guys recommend for p2p frostwire, limewire, ? im new to ubuntu and im using gutsy
[05:48] <DrIP> ok
[05:48] <DrIP> amenado: done
[05:48] <imyousuf> rryan: what happens if it does not have appropriate grub? and my hdd is /dev/sda I get it using cat device.map
[05:49] <Black_Magic> amenado, can you get me to trust in my self and reboot im afraid i may get a : "Go strait to jail DO NOT pass go Do NOT Collect 2,000,000 Dollars"
[05:49] <amenado> DrIP-> cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   and tell me the results?
[05:49]  * flyback- is about to just reformat the damn box anyways
[05:49] <orran> HEy anybody using a Dell
[05:49] <DrIP> amenado: 1
[05:49] <Black_Magic> amenado, in other words  back to square one..
[05:49] <rryan> imyousuf : AFAIK if you install with that method, then grub will be installed in the MBR of the drive you provide it with. If you're running the system you want to boot into then it should all be fine.
[05:49] <shawn__> i hav elike 5 xorg configs
[05:49] <amenado> Black_Magic i trust you enuff...believe in the power of the swarchz  ..hehehe
[05:49] <shawn__> which one?
[05:49] <flyback-> I don't have time for this shit
[05:49] <flyback-> ugh
[05:50] <imyousuf> ok
[05:50] <Black_Magic> amenado, thx going to do it "Crosses Fingers"
[05:50] <amenado> DrIP-> got your paypal account ready to xfer some to mine?
[05:50] <DrIP> amenado: Heil Root
[05:50] <rryan> imyousuf : 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' should do it then.
[05:50] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  I don't have a single dual output video card. I have two cheap vga pci cards.
[05:50] <DrIP> amenado: lol if you want liek 99\c\
[05:50] <pstv> Help..my web shortcuts on the desktop wont work
[05:50] <m1sters1n1st3r> =-O
[05:50] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: What you mean by that..?
[05:50] <amenado> DrIP  if you do it 100 times, its acceptable..lol
[05:51] <DrIP> lol :p
[05:51] <amenado> DrIP  iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE   and now ping from cl1  www.yahoo.com
[05:51] <quentusrex> Black_Magic:  I have one pci card that has the left monitor attached, and a second pci card that has teh right monitor attached.
[05:51] <pstv> Help..can't play dvd
[05:51] <amenado> DrIP sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE   and now ping from cl1  www.yahoo.com
[05:51] <rryan> imyousuf : It might be helpful to keep a live-cd of ubuntu around just in case.
[05:52] <Black_Magic> quentusrex: Well im lost....
[05:52] <quentusrex> same...
[05:52] <imyousuf> rryan: :), lucky me a colleague of mine needs the solution and not me :). I told him its his choise
[05:52] <Black_Magic> Jack_Sparrow, Can you pick up for me...?
[05:52] <pstv> My dvd movies wont play can someone help
[05:52] <DrIP> amenado: mac has no iptables :eep
[05:52] <imyousuf> rryan: he can take the risk or boot as he is doing now :-D
[05:53] <Black_Magic> DrIP: Are you trying to fix Mac or Ubuntu...
[05:53] <amenado> DrIP-> were you not pinging that earlier from ubuntu?
[05:53] <DrIP> amenado: pinging from ubuntu
[05:53] <DrIP> holdon
[05:53] <amenado> DrIP  the sudo iptables is for ubuntu, the ping if for cl1
[05:53] <DrIP> ahhh
[05:54] <quentusrex> Does anyone know how to enable two independant pci video cards?
[05:54] <fismoll8> hey guys needed some help setting up my nx server
[05:54] <amenado> DrIP-> and result is?
[05:54] <DrIP> amenado: fail...
[05:55] <DrIP> amenado: holdon
[05:55] <DrIP> amenado: let me try something real quick
[05:55] <amenado> DrIP ping <IP_ADDRESS> from cl1
[05:56] <DrIP> amenado: nada... should my ubuntu be pluged in the inet port of my router?
[05:56] <rryan> imyousuf : well at least its good that you have a computer separate from the one you're working on trying to fix. Also, no data is at risk by doing this. You just might not be able to boot, which is also fixable.
[05:56] <DrIP> amenado: i had 100% packet loss :(
[05:56] <imyousuf> rryan: yeah I couldnt ask for help either :)
[05:57] <amenado> DrIP-> what have you been doing? you were able to ping your wired router from ubuntu? and you what disconnected the cable after?
[05:57] <DrIP> amenado: no...
[05:58] <amenado> DrIP can you ping cl1 ? can cl1 ping ubuntu?
[05:58] <DrIP> amenado: i can still ping my cls to my ubuntu
[05:58] <DrIP> yes
[05:59] <amenado> DrIP-> why did you asked me if you need to plug your inet port to your router? i didnt follow that
[05:59] <amenado> which router are you referring to?
[05:59] <DrIP> my internal wired
[06:00] <amenado> DrIP can you explain?
[06:00] <DrIP> hummm
[06:00] <s3a_> how do u make it so that there is double space on openoffice word?
[06:01] <Chipsa964> format
[06:01] <DrIP> amenado: very odd
[06:01] <amenado> DrIp is the layout still the same per your drawing or you reconfigured?
[06:01] <Chipsa964> paragraph->spacing
[06:01] <DrIP> amenado: same
[06:01] <amenado> DrIP-> why did you asked me if you need to plug your inet port to your router? i didnt follow that..explain this
[06:02] <Chipsa964> s3a, openoffice is very similar to ms word
[06:02] <flyback-> can someone please list all the groups that the default ubuntu user should be in
[06:02] <DrIP> amenado: i was just thinking about something, but please, do go on
[06:02] <s3a_> Chipsa964: ya well i dont remember how to do it in either :(
[06:02] <Chipsa964> their features are in approximately the same place
[06:02] <Chipsa964> haha oh
[06:02] <Chipsa964> well
[06:03] <Chipsa964> at the top, click format-->paragraph-->spacing
[06:03] <amenado> DrIP you have not reconfigured anyt wiring?
[06:03] <flyback-> nm
[06:03] <DrIP> amenado: i just thought that i could configure my router to route all outbound packets to the internet port and then have my ubuntu route that to the wireless and have it go on, and i did not change a thing
[06:04] <Chipsa964> got it, s3a ?
[06:04] <s3a_> Chipsa964: k, thx
[06:04] <s3a_> Chipsa964: ya
[06:04] <Chipsa964> ok
[06:04] <crashhandler> there are 'boxes\lines' effect on my desktop while minimizing or maximizing the windows.....how to fix that?
[06:05] <amenado> DrIP from ubuntu can you ping  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <DrIP> amenado: yes
[06:05] <amenado> DrIP from cl1 can you ping  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <Chipsa964> crashhandler, you can probably change them in your appearance menus
[06:05] <m1sters1n1st3r> crashhandler i think that your video card might not be set up correctly or supported
[06:05] <Chipsa964> oh i thought you mean special effect :o
[06:06] <DrIP> amenado: no.
[06:06] <amenado> DrIP can you repaste the ifconfig; iwconfig ; route -n ;  cat /etc/resolv.conf of your ubuntu
[06:06] <crashhandler> ic...how to disable that..i mean i dun want even single effect on my ubuntu
[06:06] <m1sters1n1st3r> chipsa i had his issue when i used a graphics card that was not supported, i tried to install proprietary drivers with no success
[06:06] <DrIP> ok... holdon
[06:06] <amenado> DrIP include also   sudo iptables -t nat -vL
[06:07] <DrIP> sure...
[06:07] <m1sters1n1st3r> well crash u go to system then go to appearance then u go to the effects tab and select none
[06:07] <nickrud> crashhandler: gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources turns on/off all the window effects
[06:08] <crashhandler> ok thanks..will try out now
[06:09] <DrIP> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/VXH6ie71.html
[06:09] <TrustNoOne> if i copy a file over my network to an NTFS volume it is fine, if i copy over the network from NTFS to linux, it is sooooooooooo slow... like 7 hours for 3gb... what is wrong?:
[06:10] <crashhandler> m1sters1n1st3r ..i goto system but there is no appearance. ..lol..i am a supernoob ^_^
[06:10] <DrIP> TrustNoOne: nope... linux no likie NTFS
[06:10] <TrustNoOne> crashhandler, try System > Preferences > Appearance
[06:10] <crashhandler> icic
[06:10] <rryan> imyousuf : any progress?
[06:10] <TrustNoOne> DrIP, i figured as much, but why does it work good one way but not the other
[06:11] <imyousuf> rryan: will try it later, as someone is working on that machine
[06:11] <imyousuf> will let you know
[06:11] <smehmood> hey guys, I know this isn't directly related to ubuntu, but I'm SSH'ed into one of my Universities Linux machines, and for some reason Vim doesn't seem to work like it should. keys are mapped funny, and Backspace produces ^?, etc. do you know a way to fix it?
[06:11] <rryan> imyousuf : gotcha. good luck :)
[06:11] <amenado> DrIP-> ping <IP_ADDRESS> from cl1
[06:11] <crashhandler> TrustNoOne seriously,there is no Appeaance in my Preferences
[06:11] <DrIP> amenado: nada
[06:11] <lolwut>   |              |   |                         |     _)   |
[06:11] <lolwut>    _ \    _` |   |   |    -_)    _|     (_-<     \    |    _|
[06:11] <lolwut>  _.__/  \__,_|  _|  _|  \___|  _|       ___/  _| _|  _|  \__|
[06:11] <lolwut> DICKS EVERYWHERE
[06:11] <TrustNoOne> crashhandler, well seriously i have no idea why, i just pointed out that appearance isnt in system but in preferences, not sure why you need to go there
[06:12] <m1sters1n1st3r> system>preferances>appearances>tab that says visual effects
[06:12] <nickrud> crashhandler: try running gnome-appearance-properties in a terminal
[06:12] <crashhandler> yeah yeah,,,true..there is no Apperance..i have browse all the menu inside the system..
[06:12] <kris_ph> is Django-0.96.1 supported by ubuntu?
[06:12] <crashhandler> but i will try paste that in terminal
[06:12] <crashhandler> :)
[06:12] <amenado> DrIP cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:13] <rybotsky> HELP!  can anyone tell me why i get this message when i try to install kiba dock .DEB package           could not install all dependencies
[06:13] <rryan> anyone here use the darklooks theme? Have you noticed that notification bubbles are impossible to read because of the theme's white text on yellow background? Anyone know how to fix that?
[06:13] <DrIP> amenado: 1
[06:13] <chill> anyone could recommend me a good server for casual chatting(not computer related preferably)
[06:13] <DrIP> chill: #defocus
[06:13] <rryan> (other than not using darklooks)
[06:13] <nickrud> rybotsky: the kibadoc deb you downloaded needs more debs from that repo most likely.
[06:13] <chill> cool
[06:13] <chill> thx
[06:13] <DrIP> np
[06:13] <rybotsky> nickrud   so how would i fix that
[06:13] <amenado> DrIP  on cl1   route -n  and paste it please
[06:14] <nickrud> rybotsky: where did you get the deb?
[06:14] <flyback-> if I deleted the user account and directoty, how do i recreate the acount exactely like it's setup stock
[06:14] <sjovan> hey, what was the command to get the localhost info?
[06:14] <rybotsky> nickrud http://swik.net/kiba-dock
[06:14] <crashhandler> tq everybody it works
[06:14] <rryan> sjovan : what info ?
[06:14] <DrIP> amenado: holdon....
[06:15] <orran> Man Linux is a little weird
[06:15] <TrustNoOne> orran, why
[06:15] <EruditeHermit> hi I have an iwl4965 card and I seem to have this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/144621 I've tried an updated package by trevino which is listed in that thread but it doesn't fix the issue.Can anyone help? Will this be fixed in hardy?
[06:16] <DrIP> amenado: darwin has a little prob with route... what are you looking for?
[06:16] <rybotsky> nickrud    http://swik.net/kiba-dock
[06:16] <nickrud> rybotsky: I'm not going to try installing that on my system to test it, it's just a random deb from the net.
[06:16] <nickrud> rybotsky: a sec
[06:16] <sjovan> rryan: localhost... the router/host IP
[06:16] <rybotsky> k
[06:16] <amenado> DrIP why? what is the problem with route?
[06:17] <sjovan> opera rememberd it, so it's not that inportatn, but it's nice to know in the future
[06:17] <DrIP> amenado: it also wants a 'command' with -n
[06:17] <amenado> DrIP explain
[06:17] <Hammer89_> is there a way to lock the screen from the terminal?
[06:17] <TrustNoOne> any msn with offline msging and cam support that isnt as bulked up as amsn?
[06:17] <rryan> sjovan : 'ifconfig' will tell you the information about various ethernet interfaces you have enabled. 'route' will tell you the various routing rules you have setup (the default one is the one you're interested in)
[06:17] <DrIP> aha
[06:17] <DrIP> holdon
[06:17] <kris_ph> Hello.. I have apache2 running with php. Is it okay that I will install Django and its database using postgresql? won't it give harm to my existing php and my php apps?
[06:17] <orran> TrustNoOne: It has a few problems that need work.
[06:17] <orran> PEace
[06:18] <rryan> sjovan : If you're interested in what your machine is configured to set up as, versus what it is actually setup as, you can check the file /etc/network/interfaces to see the default router, netmask, ip address of the interfaces you have enabled. (or if they are set to dhcp)
[06:18] <amenado> DrIP what is the problem? that should not take you long to paste   route -n results
[06:18] <rryan> sjovan : if you want to see the dns servers that you are set to use, check the file /etc/resolv.conf
[06:18] <DrIP> amenado: on a mac, it's netstat
[06:19] <St_Patrick> :)
[06:19] <amenado> DrIP okay..so paste it
[06:19] <rryan> sjovan : of course, there is a nice graphical tool that will tell you all this : 'network-admin'. You have to run it with superuser privileges, "gksu network-admin" should do the trick.
[06:19] <St_Patrick> any msn with offline msging and cam support that isnt as bulked up as amsn?
[06:19] <s3a> is there any app for ubuntu that can recover deleted files that were formated over, etc?
[06:20] <DrIP> amenado: it's working
[06:20] <s3a> or at least one that can try to recover?
[06:20] <rybotsky> nickrud do u know how i can get it to work
[06:20] <CVD-PR> hello llegue
[06:20] <nickrud> rybotsky: I'm checking for a possibly trustworthy repo
[06:20] <smehmood> hey guys, I'm SSH'ed into one of my University's Linux machines from ubuntu, and for some reason Vim doesn't seem to work like it should. keys are mapped funny, and Backspace produces ^?, etc. do you know a way to fix it?
[06:20] <amenado> Tann asked DrIP what he has done..
[06:21] <DrIP> wow
[06:21] <rybotsky> nickrud   thanx man
[06:21] <DrIP> a lot
[06:21] <rryan> s3a : 'giis' is a tool that can sometimes recover recently deleted files from an ext2 or ext3 filesystem
[06:21] <rryan> sa : you can get more information here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/giis/
[06:21] <DrIP> *sigh*
[06:21] <bullgard4> man gettext writes: "The gettext program translates a natural language message into the user’s language, by looking up the translation in a message catalog." What is a 'natural language message'?
[06:22] <sjovan> rryan: thanx for all the info :)
[06:23] <DrIP> amenado: now i can't ping my ubuntu
[06:23] <DrIP> but my ubuntu can ping my cl1
[06:24] <rryan> s3a : no problem and good luck :) The most important thing to do once you've accidentally deleted a file is to stop writing to the disk that the file was on immediately. That will increase your chances of the tool working.
[06:25] <DrIP> amenado: !!!
[06:25] <DrIP> 1.2 sec of lag
[06:25] <DrIP> *sigh*
[06:26] <kris_ph> Hello.. I have apache2 running with php. Is it okay that I will install Django and its database using postgresql? won't it give harm to my existing php and my php apps?
[06:27] <DrIP> amenado: you there?!?
[06:27] <nickrud> rybotsky: didn't find any debs, but I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554127 . You can at least be sure you're not getting a trojan, you're compiling directly from the original source.
[06:27] <amenado> yes
[06:27] <ere4si> kris_ph, if you can't get an answer for that here - someone on #ubuntu-server might help
[06:27] <kris_ph> ere4si: thanks.. moving
[06:27] <ere4si> k
[06:27] <DrIP> amenado: ok, good... i can ping from ubuntu but cl1 --- cant
[06:27] <rryan> kris_ph : there's no reason that installing django would hurt that
[06:28] <Blou_Aap> heheheh was ahvin trouble with my alsa setup yesterday :D
[06:28] <rryan> kris_ph : all that installing django should do is add its code and link it to your python path.
[06:28] <Blou_Aap> what to do ?
[06:28] <Blou_Aap> well
[06:28] <DrIP> amenado: and i can ping my router from cl1
[06:28] <Blou_Aap> compile your own hahaha
[06:28] <rryan> kris_ph : and installing postgres won't mess up your mysql installation
[06:28] <Blou_Aap> sorted
[06:29] <crashhandler> any simple image editor in ubuntu equivalent to photofiltre in m$ windows?
[06:29] <kris_ph> rryan: thanks.. so you mean.. it won't hurt my present system configuration after installing it?
[06:29] <crashhandler> Gimp is too......photoshop-ish
[06:29] <rryan> kris_ph : right, django wont't even install itself into apache because it doesn't assume that you want to use it with apache
[06:29] <Blou_Aap> Best advice with soft on ubuntu :  If it fails compile it your self (Tweak a bit if u can code)  I love open source !!!
[06:29] <rryan> kris_ph : you have to do all that manually.. (it also doesn't do that so it doesn't mess up pre-existing configurations, like yours)
[06:30] <kris_ph> rryan: do you have it in your box? just asking..
[06:30] <rryan> Blou_Aap : well... i would insert another step there, search for someone who has identified it isn't working, and created a .deb of it that works.. then if that doesnt' work compile it from source :)
[06:30] <St_Patrick> gimp is hard, i keep looking for tools similar to mspaint but it is more complicated to draw a single line that i thought
[06:30] <rryan> kris_ph : yup :) I love Django... and I have a couple php apps running side by side with it
[06:31] <DrIP> amenado: do you mind if we can contiune this tommorw?
[06:31] <Blou_Aap> Glassfish ppl
[06:31] <rybotsky> nickrud  thnx     but can u tell me how to become root in gedit
[06:31] <Flannel> St_Patrick: try OOo Draw, or Dia, or (theres a bunch of simpler drawing programs)
[06:31] <DrIP> or if you have any instructions, PM?
[06:31] <Blou_Aap> Glashfish is the future !
[06:31] <kris_ph> rryan: thanks.. its clean.. well, can you suggest to me this guide? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Django
[06:31] <nickrud> rryan: you do realize that django is in the repos?
[06:31] <amenado> okay til next time
[06:31] <DrIP> ok...
[06:31] <chill> anybody know where can i get avant window manager plugins?
[06:32] <nickrud> rryan: sorry, thta was for kris_ph I guess
[06:32] <Blou_Aap> chill : http://wiki.awn-project.org/Applets
[06:32] <rybotsky> can anyone tell me how to become root in gedit
[06:32] <DrIP> Away: Night
[06:32] <nickrud> ryanakca: gksudo gedit
[06:32] <kris_ph> nickrud: yeah...can you point me to a best guide on how to install it?
[06:32] <Flannel> !away > DrIP
[06:32] <amortvigil> chill isnt it in your repo?
[06:32] <nickrud> rybotsky: gksudo gedit
[06:33] <rybotsky> nickrud thanks
[06:33] <chill> yeah but i got debs from getdeb.net
[06:33] <rryan> kris_ph : Yup, that guide should work to get you setup with your django app running on apache with mod_python.
[06:33] <chill> and its a different version than the one in repos
[06:33] <nickrud> kris_ph:   sudo apt-get install python-django , and the config stuff will be in /usr/share/doc/python-django .
[06:33] <crashhandler> i am not searching for a drawing apps///but just a simple apps to crop,resize,and applying simple filters such as blur,sharpen,and adjusting gammas contras n such
[06:33] <rryan> kris_ph: The only line that I wouldn't use is 'a2dissite default', if your php site is named 'default' then it will disable it.
[06:34] <Blou_Aap> crashhandler: gimp >>> all
[06:34] <arkon13> can anyone help me configure my 5.1 speakers step by step please?
[06:34] <rryan> nickrud : I think he knows that (If I understand correctly). He's worried that installing the repository package will affect his current apache configs, on which he has a couple php apps running.
[06:34] <kris_ph> rryan: okay.. thanks for that.. so what would I use then? m on a box without gui..
[06:34] <crashhandler> Blou_Aap: gimp is too hard! i mean the interface,unorganized.
[06:35] <rryan> kris_ph : every part of that guide other than that one should be fine for getting you setup
[06:35] <amenado> crashhandler-> try inkscape, layering
[06:35] <nickrud> rryan: if the package is built correctly (most likely ;) it will be very safe
[06:35] <Blou_Aap> crashhandler: do you know abit of photoshop ?
[06:35] <rryan> kris_ph : I would also recommend using the django official documentation. It's often much more helpful and detailed: http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/modpython/
[06:36] <Blou_Aap> crashhandler: then get gimp , that photoshop look alike
[06:36] <crashhandler> yes...i know photoshop,but i want the apps simple as photofiltre (m$ windows)
[06:36] <Blou_Aap> crashhandler: a lot simpler than trad gimp
[06:36] <nickrud> crashhandler: you might like gthumb, it has the basic photo manipulation stuff
[06:36] <kris_ph> thanks for the help..
[06:36] <Kyro> does Ubuntu Server come with apache, php and sql already set up, ready to configure kind of thing?
[06:36] <crashhandler> i see,i will search for it now
[06:36] <Flannel> Kyro: you can choose that, yes.
[06:36] <chill> crahshhandler check www.getdeb.net i just saw an application like that
[06:37] <Blou_Aap> ye gthump does a few simple stuff
[06:37] <Kyro> Flannel, sweet, ill download it in that case
[06:37] <Ububegin> my synaptic package manager seems to be screwed.. Ever since, i tried downloading Java-doc, but it failed... but now i cant even install any other programs cos it still keeps the java error.. How do clear the synaptic manager :?
[06:37] <crashhandler> reload!
[06:37] <EruditeHermit>  /msg ubotu etiquette
[06:37] <chill> ububegin sudo apt-get install -f
[06:38] <chill> has worked for me in the past
[06:38] <CVD-PR> Anay way to know why the suspend dont work?
[06:39] <preor> Why when I typed cd alsa-lib-1.0.15rc3 it doesnt work but when I typed cd /home/user/alsa/alsa-lib-1.0.15rc3      it worked?
[06:39] <chill> cvd-pr in the ubuntu forums there is a thread with lots of possible solutions to that problem
[06:40] <Ububegin> chill: it still cant seem to clear the java-doc thingie... It is as if though, it wont allow me to install anything else...
[06:40] <nickrud> Ububegin: go to http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp#docs , click on Java SE 6 Documentation download button, and download jdk-6-doc.zip to /tmp . Then run sudo apt-get -f install
[06:40] <nickrud> preor: probably because you weren't in /home/user/alsa when you did the first command
[06:41] <arkon13> can anyone help me configure my 5.1 speakers please?
[06:41] <kris_ph> what's the command to exit vim?
[06:41] <preor> nickrud: I see, thanks
[06:42] <arkon13>  can anyone help me configure my 5.1 speakers please?
[06:42] <nickrud> kris_ph: hit the escape button, type :q   or  :wq to save, or q! to quit without saving
[06:42] <Ububegin> kris_ph : type :q
[06:42] <kris_ph> thanks.. that helps..
[06:42] <nickrud> kris_ph: run   vimtutor , it'll teach you the basics quickly
[06:43] <chill> ububegin: sorry cant help
[06:43] <tchaska> anybody knows how to do a firewire network? where I can find a tutorial about this
[06:43] <kris_ph> nickrud: I tried this: sudo vim /etc/apache2/sites-available/django-example but it says m making a new file.. why?
[06:43] <tchaska> ?
[06:43] <kris_ph> sorry.. that was supposed for rryan
[06:44] <nickrud> kris_ph: possibly a typo:  type   sudo vim /etc/apache2/sites-available/dj<tab> , it should complete the file name. Or, cd /etc/apt/apache2/sites-available (so you're in the directory) and ls to see the file names
[06:45] <nickrud> kris_ph: probably a better person to talk to about configuring django ;)
[06:46] <danio> има ли българи тук?
[06:46] <St_Patrick> any msn with offline msging and cam support that isnt as bulked up as amsn?
[06:46] <grub> i made a partition from my windows drive, and i want to add it to my linux partition, how do i go about it?
[06:46] <Tm_T> !ru | danio
[06:46] <ubotu> danio: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:46] <chill> st_patrick: no i havent found one
[06:47] <chill> im not sure if kmess got camera suport
[06:47] <chill> but it could
[06:47] <St_Patrick> :<
[06:47] <kdorf> grub: you want to access your files from linux on your windows partition?
[06:47] <grub> kdorf, no, i want to add it to my linux partition
[06:48] <mongole> blubb
[06:48] <Ububegin> nickrud: woah, thanks nvr knew had to do these hacks... :) ...  chilli: thanks oso...
[06:48] <chill> your wlcom
[06:48] <grub> kdorf, the present linux partition is only 15GB, i want to add 10 gb more
[06:48] <kdorf> grub: easy program for that then. =) gpart
[06:49] <grub> kdorf, yeah i know that, was wondering if i would end up having troubles with grub
[06:49] <nickrud> Ububegin: when you install the javadocs with apt-get, it tells you those exact steps. if you used synaptic or add/remove, the instructions might have been hidden from you
[06:49] <zhangmaodi> help
[06:49] <zhangmaodi> ?
[06:49] <grub> kdorf, and i would have to change fstab?
[06:49] <preor> Can anyone help me fix my sound problem, I reached step 12 in here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455147 ) double clicked volume control it says: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[06:49] <zhangmaodi> ?help
[06:49] <grub> zhangmaodi, with what?
[06:49] <kdorf> I believe so
[06:49] <grub> :(
[06:49] <kdorf> well
[06:50] <zhangmaodi> load
[06:50] <EruditeHermit> hi I have an iwl4965 card and I seem to have this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/144621 I've tried an updated package by trevino which is listed in that thread but it doesn't fix the issue.Can anyone help? Will this be fixed in hardy?
[06:50] <nickrud> Ububegin: the reason you have to jump thru the hoops like that is suns licensing policy, by the way
[06:50] <grub> kdorf, its actually for my friend, i know how to do all that, but hes a noob, was wondering if theres an easy method so that he could do it on his own
[06:50] <chill> dont you dare to blame ubuntu
[06:50] <chill> sun is evil
[06:51] <Ububegin> nickrud: Oh, for a moment, i thot it was ubuntu's packaging issue or something... chilli: relax dude
[06:51] <kdorf> I haven't actually given my partitions any changing in... forever. I think gparted will fix fstab, but grub is another issue I think
[06:51] <rryan> sun isn't evil.. they've done a lot of great things for the world. They're just a little confused in certain situations.
[06:52] <kdorf> grub: editing /boot/grub/menu.lst should be fairly straightforward
[06:52] <grub> kdorf, yeah
[06:52] <nickrud> Ububegin: that happens too
[06:52] <Meat_Popsicle> So I've got a question about compiling.  I was working on installing a plugin for pidgin to aloow Xfire access.  The .deb file was x86 and thre an error, so I got a .tar.bx2 and started on compiling it, but I've run into a dependency issue
[06:52] <arkon13> help?
[06:52] <kdorf> grub: is your friend at all computer literate? being a computer noob and being a linux noob are very different :)
[06:53] <arkon13> help again? :)
[06:53] <Meat_Popsicle> The package is trying to resolve the package "gaim", but since its "pidgin" nowadays, its not working.  How can I redirect it to pidgin?
[06:53] <arkon13> somebody heeeelp
[06:53] <arkon13> :)
[06:53] <Ububegin> arkon13: help u do what :?
[06:53] <arkon13> well
[06:54] <arkon13> i can't configure my 5.1 speakers
[06:54] <arkon13> i'm going crazy
[06:54] <grub> kdorf, linux noob :)
[06:54] <nickrud> Meat_Popsicle: a good rule of thumb for finding dependencies is to look at the dependency it needs (for example , gtk) and do this:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev . That is, add lib to the front and then search for the development package. Works about 90% of the time
[06:54] <arkon13> is there a private channel we can talk ? i'm having a hard time following the screen
[06:54] <preor> arkon13: heh I cant hear any voices from my speakers :S
[06:54] <chill> nice one nickrud
[06:55] <nickrud> Meat_Popsicle: ah, different issue. Get a later version of the plugin
[06:55] <Ububegin> arkon13 : X-D
[06:55] <chill> but you can also do sudo apt-get build-dep "name of package"
[06:55] <chill> does the same job
[06:55] <arkon13> what?
[06:55] <^futuro> Hi to all
[06:55] <nickrud> chill: if it's in the repos, true.
[06:55] <kdorf> grub: okay, then what I might suggest to him is to go ahead and comment out the entries in grub for windows, making sure the default is set to ubuntu of course, then go ahead and merge the partitions with gpart
[06:55] <^futuro> How many pass to be photorec?
[06:55] <Meat_Popsicle> nickrud: thats the bad news, the plugin hasnt been updates in quite some time...  I'm told it works with pidgin, but normally thats done using the .deb file
[06:56] <arkon13> hello?
[06:56] <arkon13>  arkon13: heh I cant hear any voices from my speakers :S
[06:56] <^futuro> Whereis the different to Ubuntu and Debian?
[06:56] <arkon13> what's this?
[06:56] <nickrud> Meat_Popsicle: I'd have to look at the code. Maybe it's simple, maybe it's not. I don't compile much anymore myself
[06:57] <nickrud> ^futuro: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to talk about relative merits of distros.
[06:57] <^futuro> thanks nickrud
[06:57] <arkon13> guys? 5.1 speakers, help?
[06:57] <Meat_Popsicle> nickrud: I can link you to the project page if you dont mind taking a look
[06:57] <pstv> does anyone know a program i can create my ubuntu image and restore it like Ghosting
[06:57] <kdorf> grub: ah yes, but I forgot one thing. he's going to need additional packages for gpart in order to manage NTFS filesystems
[06:57] <zmatt> pstv: partimage perhaps ?
[06:58] <^futuro> do you know photorec?
[06:58] <vox> arkon13: what sound card
[06:58] <arkon13> integrated
[06:58] <grub> kdorf, hes using gparted, it has ntfstools i guess
[06:58] <kdorf> grub: which I'm assuming he's using. a simple search for ntfs in package manager should turn up something though
[06:58] <crashhandler> ive installed several KDE application (im using gnome ubuntu),i cant see the application inside ubuntu menu....how to retrieve that shortcut?
[06:58] <pstv> zmatt: does that come with the install cd?
[06:58] <arkon13> motherboard is asus m2n 1394
[06:58] <ere4si> pstv, mondo and mindi - they're in the repos
[06:58] <arkon13> and the sound card is
[06:58] <arkon13> wait 1 sec
[06:58] <nickrud> Meat_Popsicle: um, I'm about to head to bed. And I make it a rule not to get into compiling issues, they seem to go on forever (especially the ones that seem straightforward :)
[06:58] <zmatt> pstv: nope..
[06:58] <kdorf> grub: awesome, all set then?
[06:58] <zmatt> pstv: i think i saw something on how-to forge...let me dig it up quick
[06:59] <pstv> zmatt: ok thank you
[06:59] <Meat_Popsicle> nickrud: not a problem =)  I'll find someone else to harass, or maybe just break down and install XFire on wine...
[06:59] <^futuro> can I use ubuntu for internet point?
[06:59] <arkon13>  soundmax ADI AD1988A 6 channel
[06:59] <nickrud> crashhandler: you should get kde stuff in the menus. If you're sure it's not anywhere, try   alt-f2 killall gnome-panel . The panel will restart and force regeneration of the menus
[06:59] <zmatt> pstv: sorry..i don't think it'll help...
[06:59] <crashhandler> alright,tq!  ^_^
[07:00] <kris_ph> rryan: phyton and php can't work side by side here..