[15:00] <cjwatson> #startmeeting
[15:00] <cjwatson> oi oi
[15:00] <infinity> o/
[15:01] <cjwatson> let's see, I make it Barry, Brian, Steve off
[15:01]  * stgraber waves
[15:01] <doko> hi
[15:01] <robru> hiya
[15:01] <cjwatson> #topic Lightning round
[15:01] <cjwatson> $ echo $(shuf -e doko stgraber jodh cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo bhuey sil2100 robru)
[15:01] <cjwatson> bhuey jodh robru doko sil2100 cjwatson caribou stgraber infinity mvo xnox
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <infinity> Damnit.
[15:02] <mvo> hi
[15:03]  * xnox win \o/
[15:03] <caribou> cjwatson: o/
[15:03] <jodh> I guess bhuey is also out, so...
[15:03] <jodh> * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items:
[15:03] <jodh>   - async support:
[15:03] <jodh>     - Working with xnox on async test issues.
[15:03] <jodh>     - Wrote lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/cgroups-and-process_data-reexec-test
[15:03] <jodh>       (which found a juicy bug :-)
[15:03] <cjwatson> (could be yeah, wasn't sure)
[15:03] <jodh>     - Reviewing MPs.
[15:03] <jodh>     - Testing, testing, testing...
[15:03] <jodh> * other:
[15:03] <jodh>   - Started reading up on click.
[15:03] <jodh> * TODO:
[15:03] <jodh>   - Fix intermittent re-exec crash
[15:03] <jodh>   - Review lp:~xnox/upstart/shrink-notifications MP.
[15:03] <jodh>   - Resolve test issues with lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1302117-remerged
[15:03] <jodh>   - Raise MP for test code that forces both possible races.
[15:03] <jodh>   - Release Upstart 1.13 and get it into the archive.
[15:03] <jodh> ⚙
[15:04] <cjwatson> GEAR to you too
[15:04] <jodh> :)
[15:04] <mvo> jodh: anything specific about click you are interessted in?
[15:04]  * mvo is just curious
[15:05] <robru> * optimized nonfunctional stats service JS frontend code
[15:05] <jodh> mvo: I haven't looked at it all all so thought it was time I did :)
[15:05] <robru> * various and sundry landings
[15:05] <robru> * poked at CI Train support code in queuebot
[15:05] <robru> * committed but not released fix for bug in phablet-tools-citrain
[15:05] <robru> * minor packaging work for lp:qtmir
[15:05] <robru> done
[15:05] <mvo> jodh: :)
[15:08] <sil2100> doko: ? :)
[15:08] <infinity> doko: *nudge*
[15:09] <doko> - openjdk-8 packaging, first version sent to a ftp-master for review (licenses)
[15:09] <doko> - openjdk-7 mentoring
[15:09] <doko> - working openjdk-7 hotspot build for ppc64el
[15:09] <doko> - one more round of gcc-4.8/gcc-4.9 updates, next week will be 4.9.1
[15:09] <doko> - gcc-4.9 not yet the default
[15:09] <doko> - and updated an aarch64 toolchain for trusty
[15:09] <infinity> doko: How's the progress on the C++11 ABI bump stuff going so we can switch back some day?
[15:09] <doko> (end)
[15:10] <infinity> doko: Guessing that's in tvoss's court or similar?
[15:10] <doko> infinity, enoclue, can't reach tvoss, and mir is ftbfs with 4.9, and mir team playing ping pong with the phone team
[15:10] <infinity> \o/
[15:10] <cjwatson> Pretty much I think, I need to poke him again about just build-deping on 4.8 and decoupling from the 4.9 transition
[15:10] <cjwatson> I've cleared things with the mir team, aside from the ftbfs
[15:10] <doko> ahh, nice
[15:10] <infinity> cjwatson: That would be acceptable for now, yeah.
[15:10] <sil2100> Ok, let me proceed maybe o/
[15:11] <infinity> sil2100: Go for it. :)
[15:11] <sil2100> - Landing team work, dealing with TRAINCON-0
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Incident documented in TRAINCON-0 incidents
[15:11] <sil2100> - Finishing work on the packaging rebase and sponsoring request for lucene++
[15:11] <sil2100> - Unblocking Mir from -proposed
[15:11] <cjwatson> I suggested it on Friday/Monday or so and he said maybe but wanted to try 4.9 first
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Rebuilding glmark2
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Pushing xorg-server rebuild
[15:11] <sil2100> - Uploading libqofono, pushing through NEW
[15:11] <cjwatson> So I think I should tell him to timeout :P
[15:11] <sil2100> - Landing bootcamp for Michael
[15:11] <sil2100> - Work on queuebot-related changes in CI Train
[15:11] <sil2100> - Fixes for lucene++ in Debian queue
[15:11] <sil2100> - Additions to the CI Train
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Informing (bailing out) on missing -gles counterparts
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Work on some of the feature requests, i.e. the 'Approved by' string
[15:11] <sil2100>   * Futile attempts to make dch generate better changelogs in citrain ;)
[15:11] <sil2100> - More tweaks and fixes to the old CI Train bot
[15:11] <sil2100> - Fix buttons for CI Train spreadsheet (designed new, uglier ones \o/)
[15:11] <sil2100> - Sadly not much time for +1 maint... but will definitely have now with mvo helping out wi
[15:11] <sil2100> th landings!
[15:11] <cjwatson> doko: FYI tvoss is on leave today but will be around on Friday
[15:11] <sil2100> Uh oh, stray newline!
[15:11] <sil2100> Anyway, (done)
[15:12] <cjwatson> Launchpad:
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Working on releasing launchpad-buildd 124 (fixes for coexistence of dak and LP builders; Edubuntu livefs build fix); required changes to puppet first, and checking whether it requires corresponding changes to scalingstack image creation.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Made ubuntu-archive-publishing get its list of series for maintenance-check using launchpadlib, allowing me to then remove lp-query-distro.py from Launchpad.
[15:12] <cjwatson> click:
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Discussing SDK / click chroot qmake/cmake integration with Alex and (by proxy) Benjamin.  Spent a while fighting with qmake to try to get it to produce more sensible output.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Extended click coverage tests to cover the Vala code too.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Several reviews.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Working on landing click 0.4.29.
[15:12] <cjwatson> Maintenance:
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Fixed merges.ubuntu.com a few times (it tends to get upset when source packages don't unpack properly).
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - A few automake1.10 cleanups.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  - Backported a GRUB patch to precise to fix installation on non-BIOS disks (bug 1336946).
[15:12] <cjwatson> G++ 4.9 discussions with Mir team and others.
[15:12] <cjwatson> Some acceptance testing of the new CI engine.  Ran into bug 1337294.
[15:12] <cjwatson> Preparing to switch to a new ISP.  If I disappear for a while on Monday or so then that's why.
[15:12] <cjwatson> ..
[15:13] <xnox> cjwatson: qmake does not produce sensible output. By proxy alex was also discussing, i believe that same thing, with me as well.
[15:13] <cjwatson> Yeah, I know :)
[15:13] <xnox> =)
[15:13] <xnox> ok.
[15:13] <cjwatson> I think you can ignore it unless you're already working on it ...
[15:13] <caribou> cjwatson: done ?
[15:13] <cjwatson> caribou: yes
[15:13] <infinity> cjwatson: NEW ISP!
[15:14] <caribou> * Work on sosreport 3.1 backport on Precise (python3)
[15:14] <caribou> * More work on Qemu/KVM 1.2 issues on Precise (custom backport)
[15:14] <caribou> * Work on Qemu live migration issue
[15:14] <caribou> * More work on backport of latest CVE to openssl 0.9.8 for precise (LP: #1331452)
[15:14] <cjwatson> infinity: well, won't help with the ADSL exchange distance directly, but the plan is to get bonded ADSL
[15:14] <doko> ohh, me too in a few days ... cable modem ...
[15:14] <caribou> (done)
[15:15] <stgraber> LXC:
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Preparing LXC 1.1.0~alpha1, currently stuck on a thread-related regression.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Preparing LXC 1.0.5, will likely release next week.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Got working arm64 and ppc64el support for the upstream CI and image build.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Various code reviews and bug triaging.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Pushed a patch so that all containers now set a minimal seccomp blacklist.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Still working on a new LXC command line tool, almost ready to be shared a
[15:15] <stgraber>    bit more widely!
[15:15] <stgraber>
[15:15] <stgraber> Conferences:
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Done some work preparing my internet simulation talk (LinuxCon NA)
[15:15] <stgraber>  - The user namespace and GUI in container talk at the Security Summit was
[15:15] <stgraber>    accepted, trying to get it scheduled at a time where I can be there.
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Preparing a talk proposal for LinuxCon Europe.
[15:15] <stgraber>
[15:15] <stgraber> Landing team:
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Some landing work (till end of June).
[15:15] <stgraber>  - Worked a bit with Łukasz on getting better state information published by
[15:15] <stgraber>    the train for consumption by queuebot.
[15:16] <stgraber>
[15:16] <stgraber> Queue bot:
[15:16] <stgraber>  - Landing plugin: tracks the Google Spreadsheet (when Google doesn't give me a
[15:16] <stgraber>    500 or a socket timeout...) and notify when something is ready to be
[15:16] <stgraber>    processed by the team.
[15:16] <stgraber>  - Silo plugin: tracks the silo states and notify when something changes. This
[15:16] <stgraber>    one will be extended a bit to be less spammy, hopefully today.
[15:16] <stgraber>  - Did a bunch more bugfixes to have queuebot be even more reliable.
[15:16] <stgraber>
[15:16] <stgraber> Other:
[15:16] <stgraber>  - SRU queue reviews.
[15:16] <stgraber>  - Landing team work.
[15:16] <stgraber>  - Alpha-1
[15:16] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:16] <infinity> Last week:
[15:16] <infinity>  - Vacation, bought a new (to me) car, accidentally worked a bit
[15:16] <infinity> Next week:
[15:16] <infinity>  - Kernel SRU wrangling
[15:16] <infinity>  - Emergency *package redacted* security issues
[15:16] <infinity>  - Reviewing MPs and mangling d-i for trusty point release
[15:16] <infinity>  - glibc SRU for the point release timeframe
[15:16] <infinity>  - powerpc-specific SRUs for the point release timeframe
[15:17] <infinity> ※
[15:17] <mvo> HWE:
[15:17] <mvo> - Work on getting packages into precise-proposed
[15:17] <mvo> - Write test instructions
[15:17] <mvo> apt:
[15:17] <mvo> - Debug/fix Bug#753531
[15:17] <mvo> - misc bug work
[15:17] <mvo> citrain:
[15:17] <mvo> - Bootcamp hangout with sil2100
[15:17] <mvo> - Document what I learned https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/NewbieGuide
[15:17] <mvo> - Daily landing team meeting
[15:17] <mvo> - Landing team duty
[15:17] <mvo> click:
[15:17] <mvo> - Create systemd hook lp:click-systemd
[15:17] <mvo> - Create first version of script that detects if libs that are
[15:17] <mvo>   not part of the manifest framework are used
[15:17] <mvo>   (lp:~mvo/click-reviewers-tools/check-libs)
[15:17] <mvo> - lp:~mvo/click/fix-testcase-rename
[15:17] <mvo> - lp:~mvo/click/lp1334611-getpwnam
[15:18] <mvo> - lp:~mvo/click/test-build-core-apps
[15:18] <mvo> - review/comment on gcov branch
[15:18] <mvo> - work on lp:~mvo/click/hook-integration-test
[15:18] <mvo> misc:
[15:18] <mvo> - Use/learn systemd on main machine
[15:18] <mvo> - Debug/fix systemd lightdm startup failure
[15:18] <mvo> - excercise the SDK
[15:18] <mvo>   (lp:~mvo/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapp-template-with-doc)
[15:18] <mvo> - fixes in autopkgtest pep8 failures
[15:18] <mvo> - hr.canonical.com
[15:18] <mvo> Next week:
[15:18] <mvo> - now part of the landing team, this will eat a lot of my time
[15:18] <mvo> (done)
[15:18] <xnox> * upstart:
[15:18] <xnox>   - in async code resolved the races:
[15:18] <xnox>     - double freeing async io handlers
[15:18] <xnox>     - race which may cause setup to be considered successful, when it wasn't
[15:18] <xnox>     - fixed tests to excercise above
[15:18] <xnox>     - raised merge proposal, awaiting review
[15:18] <xnox>   - reviewed branches for jodh, plus bughunting/reviews of above
[15:18] <xnox> jodh, what's outstanding for an upstart release? On my count we have:
[15:18] <xnox>  - umask bug not fixed (https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1302117)
[15:18] <xnox>  - above pipe race-fix to merge
[15:18] <xnox>  - re-exec tests and validation
[15:19] <xnox>  - verify the boot failure of ubuntu touch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1330692)
[15:19] <xnox> anything else?
[15:19] <xnox> launchpadlib-python3:
[15:19] <xnox> - uncovered a pile of unicode/byte issues in laz.restfulclient thus
[15:19] <xnox> porting is stalling for a little bit. Need to plan how to address
[15:19] <xnox> those.
[15:19] <xnox> AOB: in talks with many people to try something new and thus move from
[15:19] <xnox> foundations team by second week of August.
[15:19] <xnox> ..
[15:19] <doko> ohh, lplib and python3 \o/
[15:20] <cjwatson> #topic AOB
[15:20] <jodh> xnox: re release => union of what I said + what you said :)
[15:20] <xnox> jodh: ack.
[15:20] <cjwatson> all I have is a reminder that if you're going to debconf then please send Steve talk suggestions, if you haven't already
[15:20] <xnox> AOB - Happy Independence Day! =)
[15:20] <cjwatson> IIRC the debconf deadline is the 7th
[15:20] <xnox>  <imagine ascii art of american flag here (40 lines)>
[15:20] <infinity> cjwatson: I think we need to plan a Foundations sprint somewhere with plentiful booze and conditions that make it nearly impossible to work.  Please advise.
[15:21] <xnox> infinity: mountain biking in the alps? oh wait that was last debconf.
[15:21] <cjwatson> infinity: isn't that basically Canada?
[15:21] <cjwatson> at least the northern bits :)
[15:21] <doko> xnox, nah, that would be mountain skiing
[15:21] <infinity> Hrmph.
[15:21] <xnox> infinity: there is always alaska =)
[15:22] <infinity> xnox: AKA Fake Canada?
[15:22] <xnox> infinity: ex-Russia?
[15:23] <infinity> xnox: We'll just call all of Alaska, eastern Russia and northern Canada ex-Mongolia then, shall we?
[15:23] <cjwatson> I hear Antarctica is nice this time of year
[15:23] <xnox> infinity: *giggle* i like that.
[15:24] <xnox> cjwatson: zero permanent residents, yet they get an internet domain....
[15:25] <cjwatson> my MP said recently that he reckoned he represented more (yes, non-permanent) residents of Antarctica than anyone else in parliament
[15:25] <cjwatson> due to the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge
[15:26] <infinity> Trying to decide if your MP is funny or a twit.
[15:26] <infinity> Also, why do you all hate penguins?
[15:26] <infinity> (And I suspect we're out of AOB)
[15:27] <cjwatson> Yup, I'd have ended the meeting except brief ADSL outage :)
[15:28] <cjwatson> #endmeeting
[15:28] <cjwatson> thanks
[15:28] <mvo> thanks
[15:28] <caribou> Is having to suffer through a zillion (systemd .vs. non-systemd) e-mail threads mandatory in order to become Debian Maintainer
[15:28] <sil2100> o/
[15:28] <caribou> ?
[15:28] <caribou> cjwatson: thanks
[15:28] <caribou> good; this won't make the meeting minutes ;-)
[15:29] <cjwatson> caribou: depends if by suffer through you mean delete
[15:29] <caribou> cjwatson: :)
[15:30] <jodh> thanks!
[15:31] <caribou> bye everyone
[17:01] <dholbach> o/
[17:01] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:01] <czajkowski> CC come and say hi :)
[17:01] <dholbach> hi YokoZar, pleia2, czajkowski, elfy, cprofitt, mhall119
[17:01] <elfy> hi dholbach
[17:01] <YokoZar> hi
[17:01] <dholbach> anyone I forgot? :)
[17:01] <czajkowski> fancy seeing you here :)
[17:02] <czajkowski> narp
[17:02] <mhall119> I'm here
[17:02] <YokoZar> I'm fancy
[17:02] <pleia2> o/
[17:02] <dholbach> haha
[17:03] <dholbach> #startmeeting
[17:03] <dholbach> #chairs YokoZar pleia2 czajkowski elfy cprofitt mhall119
[17:03] <czajkowski> YokoZar: of course you are :)
[17:03] <dholbach> I guess we're without a bot still
[17:03] <mhall119> still?
[17:03] <elfy> has anyone actually been and asked about that?
[17:04] <elfy> it works fine in xubuntu-devel
[17:04] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda says we're meeting with the Lubuntu and Edubuntu folks
[17:04] <dholbach> hi AlanBell, if you are about, do you know who we could ask about the meeting bot?
[17:05] <mhall119> dholbach: #ubuntu-irc I would imagine, right?.
[17:06] <elfy> I asked
[17:06] <elfy> so did dholbach eventually :)
[17:06] <pleia2> the bot is still in #ubuntu-meeting-2 if we want to move over there
[17:06] <elfy> is there anyone here from Lubuntu and Edubuntu ?
[17:07] <czajkowski> stgraber: ping
[17:07] <elfy> pleia2: I guess we could join there and shovel people across
[17:07] <dholbach> or someone else from https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-council/+members
[17:07] <stgraber> I'm around, sort of
[17:07]  * elfy makes note to remind people sooner
[17:07] <elfy> hi stgraber
[17:08] <mhall119> doesn't matter to me, as long as we get started
[17:10] <mhall119> shall we just go without again today then and start with Edubuntu in here?
[17:10] <pleia2> yep
[17:10] <elfy> works for me
[17:10] <mhall119> #topic Edubuntu catchup
[17:11] <dholbach> stgraber, how are things with Edubuntu? how did the LTS release go?
[17:11] <mhall119> hi stgraber
[17:13] <mhall119> hello?
[17:14] <elfy> that'll be the sort of I assume :)
[17:15] <stgraber> the LTS went well
[17:15] <stgraber> the rest is going pretty much as usual
[17:15] <dholbach> and it's still mostly the edubuntu council working on things? do you have a lot of plans for 14.10?
[17:15] <stgraber> no plans for 14.10, we are an LTS-only flavour now
[17:16] <mhall119> stgraber: as a flavor, how do you feel about the work and decisions that have been going into Ubuntu itself? Have any of those been detrimental to Edubuntu?
[17:16] <elfy> dholbach: sorry - meant to mention that
[17:16] <dholbach> stgraber, ahh ok - so the plans you are working on now are for 16.04 basically?
[17:17] <stgraber> and yeah, Edubuntu is mostly just Jonathan and I who are now officially co-leading the project (we still have the council for historical reasons but are the only two members)
[17:17] <stgraber> right, we're mostly planning for 16.04, figuring out what to do with our desktop, ltsp and the server variant of Edubuntu
[17:18] <mhall119> stgraber: are you currently using Unity or Xfce for the default shell?
[17:18] <stgraber> mhall119: so far we've managed to revert any of those decisions when needed (pulling out bits we didn't like such as the remote scopes, ubuntuone integration, amazon launcher, ...) and support the old milestone model
[17:18]  * elfy thought it was just Studio who use xfce/xubuntu
[17:18] <stgraber> currently it's Unity + gnome-flashback, both are getting installed by default and you can choose which is the default from the installer
[17:19] <dholbach> nice
[17:19] <mhall119> stgraber: do you know yet how the move to Unity8 and Mir will affect LTSP?
[17:19] <stgraber> mhall119: it probably won't as we'd simply not support unit8 there
[17:19] <stgraber> *unity
[17:19] <elfy> stgraber: did you see my mail re manual testing?
[17:19] <stgraber> elfy: I did
[17:19] <mhall119> sorry if I'm getting too technical for a CC catchup, I'm just trying to anticipate future conflicts
[17:19] <dholbach> is the feedback you're getting still mostly from teachers? I think I recall you or somebody else mentioning that the community of edubuntu was mostly made up of teachers
[17:20] <stgraber> right, Edubuntu mostly targets schools and parents setting it up at home, so most of the larger scale feedback we get is from school districts
[17:22] <YokoZar> I'm curious about the "big deployment" feedback (from both school districts for edubuntu and larger corporate customers from Ubuntu) -- it's a side of the community we rarely hear from specifically
[17:22] <dholbach> cool - are any of them active in the community as well? like helping out on the mailing list and elsewhere? or doing some testing, etc.?
[17:23] <stgraber> it's hard to get details and very large deployments usually make their own derivative of Edubuntu too so it's pretty hard to track them and since we don't really have any commercial interest ourselves, we don't really care either :)
[17:23] <elfy> dholbach: I've just started a conversation re testing after chatting to Nick
[17:24] <stgraber> some pop up on IRC every so often, some others e-mail us on the list or directly though 99% of them are non-technical so it's really just feedback and we've got to figure out what to do with that afterwards
[17:24] <mhall119> stgraber: is there any outreach to get those deployment stories and post them on the edubuntu website?
[17:24] <stgraber> elfy: basically, since our next milestone is 16.04 alpha-1, I wouldn't expect much to happen on our side in the next year or so :)
[17:24] <elfy> stgraber: was more or less what I was thinking :)
[17:25] <stgraber> mhall119: we have a bunch at http://www.edubuntu.org/deployments
[17:25] <stgraber> mhall119: however we get a ton of spam too so we're usually very behind on processing those :)
[17:25] <mhall119> stgraber: are those syndicated to planet.u.c?
[17:25] <elfy> stgraber: I might point people in your direction duting the QA hackfest
[17:26] <stgraber> mhall119: no, they're not, we tend to accept them in batches so that'd flood planet at times and also there's not necessarily enough data to make that interesting
[17:26] <stgraber> mhall119: I think Jonathan wanted to do proper interviews with some of them, but I guess ENOTIME
[17:27] <mhall119> yeah, that's the always-present problem isn't it
[17:29] <dholbach> judging from the feedback you're getting, is everyone mostly happy?
[17:29] <elfy> personally I'd love to see more Edubuntu on the planet
[17:29] <czajkowski> +1 indeed
[17:29] <czajkowski> it would be nice to see
[17:29] <dholbach> I agree :)
[17:30] <dholbach> mhall119, we could invite the Edubuntu folks to a community team q&a :)
[17:30] <mhall119> dholbach: I was thinking that too :)
[17:30] <dholbach> and show off some of the good work they've been doing and showcase some of the work in the edubuntu community
[17:30] <stgraber> I think we're mostly happy, though also pretty busy with other things
[17:30] <dholbach> do you think there's anything the CC could help with?
[17:31] <mhall119> stgraber: do you do any events to try and get more contributors, hackdays or global jam activities or anything?
[17:31] <stgraber> honestly, when we have cool stuff to show, we will, at the moment, spending time on communication would just be draining the little time we can each spend on the project as it is
[17:32] <stgraber> same thing with getting more contributors, we'd rather focus our limited resources on getting stuff done than investing that time in communication, activities or similar stuff which in the past have had a very very little return over investiment
[17:33] <mhall119> stgraber: ok
[17:33] <mhall119> stgraber: when you are ready to do that though, please let the CC and Community team know what we can do to help
[17:33] <stgraber> sure
[17:35] <elfy> stgraber: anything else that we could do for you?
[17:35] <stgraber> can't think of anything, no
[17:36] <elfy> ok - I think we should let you get on with your day then :)
[17:36] <stgraber> thanks
[17:36] <elfy> any other questions from us?
[17:36] <mhall119> not from me
[17:36] <pleia2> nope, thanks stgraber
[17:37] <mhall119> thanks stgraber, keep up the great work
[17:37] <dholbach> thanks a lot
[17:37] <elfy> stgraber: I'll try and catch up with you re that mail and testing
[17:37] <elfy> thanks :)
[17:39] <elfy> so - I suspect the next question is - is there anyone here from Lubuntu?
[17:41] <pleia2> looks like not
[17:42] <mhall119> shall we wrap it up then?
[17:42] <dholbach> yeah
[17:42] <elfy> I'm good
[17:43] <pleia2> any other business?
[17:43] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone!
[17:43] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day :)
[17:43] <pleia2> thanks all
[17:43] <elfy> pleia2: I've sent next time reminders 5 minutes ago
[17:43] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[17:43] <mhall119> thanks everyon!
[17:43] <pleia2> elfy: saw, thanks :)
[17:43] <elfy> and am just saving the wiki :)
[17:44] <pleia2> elfy: care to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/TeamReports too? (they are on my list to do, I usually do them when I do other wiki tasks)
[17:45] <elfy> bah
[17:45] <elfy> probably after some food :)
[17:45] <pleia2> :)
[17:45] <pleia2> I'll handle them later if needed
[17:46] <YokoZar> Thanks folks
[18:04] <elfy> pleia2: are those things just basic links?


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[01:15] <DosTuMai> And I clicked the wrong channel. But hey, take it serious. Sure.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[04:27] <ubot5`> firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 41.0.2+build2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> (vivid), package size 42407 kB, installed size 102426 kB
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> morning wileee :p
[04:36] <wileee> hello lotuspsychje weather nice there, late summer here
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> nice mate! enjoy a sunny lazy sunday :p
[04:38] <wileee> cool, just chillin watching an original star trek on digital broadcast\
[04:38] <wileee> over the air
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> wileee: your a star trek fan heh
[04:39] <wileee> I have the originals, this is on once a week, but I've seen these more times than I can count. ;)
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> its nice to see old stuff on led tv
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> in hd
[04:41] <wileee> I had a pseudo multicultural class that used an orig episode, yeah exactly, re digitized perfect resolution on the samsung 32 inch
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> niceee
[04:42] <wileee> little meds, cough and you know....nirvana
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> ive watched some nice older martial arts movies in hd
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> sweet memorys :p
[04:43] <wileee> I get the net on the tv, and have the canadian NFB films app, interesting stuff, from 1950's on indust, arts...etc socialist media
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:45] <wileee> https://www.nfb.ca/explore-all-films/
[04:45] <wileee> Lots of stuff, great at 3 am
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> nice tnx!
[04:48] <wileee> np ;)
[08:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:28] <daftykins> hi all \o
[15:29] <daftykins> a_<EMAIL_ADDRESS><-- one of our usual timewasters?
[15:29] <pauljw> hey daftykins :)
[15:30] <daftykins> how are we doing today?
[15:31] <pauljw> doing well thanks, you?
[15:33] <daftykins> yep all good here :) just got a nice hot sausage roll at a pasty company around the corner from my house
[15:33] <daftykins> living 10m from the high street has its' benefits :D
[15:33] <pauljw> heheh...
[15:36] <daftykins> oh my my the weekend trolls are strong
[15:39] <pauljw> oh yeah
[16:47] <EriC^^> i think this guy borked his file system or something
[16:58] <daftykins> this texnicer is a weird one, saying this disk is a Windows install but ubuntu won't read it at all - SMART output looks clean too - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12845963/
[16:58] <daftykins> the guy hid the serial, haha
[16:59] <EriC^^> lol
[16:59] <daftykins> ah you give them advice and they say "that was my plan all along!"
[16:59] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[17:00] <EriC^^> :D
[19:35] <pauljw> bbl
[19:36] <daftykins> tum te tum te tum, ah a lazy sunday night
[19:37] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Uh huh .. watching the "helpers" not make a boo boo !
[19:40] <daftykins> :)
[21:17] <OerHeks> hmmm FUD or True ? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/valve-looks-like-its-removed-the-steamos-icon-for-games-that-work-on-linux-but-not-perfectly-on-steamos.6085
[21:39] <JanC> OerHeks: sounds like a sensible thing to do for Valve
[21:40] <daftykins> TJ-: o/ hope yourself and the huskies are free from pilfering rustlers :)
[21:41] <TJ-> Haha! Turned out it was someone we know, and has permission... but turned up with someone else in a different vehicle that we didn't recognise :)
[21:43] <TJ-> Bad communication: missed calls, unread SMS, etc. :)
[21:43] <daftykins> ah-ha! well that's a good turn out
[21:44] <TJ-> Has anyone played about with using LXC unprivileged application-specific containers? I'm exploring the best way to write a tool to automate the creation of an LXC config file by analysing the strace of a candidate application. For things like sandboxing the user's web-browser and other common applications to prevent inadvertent/malicious data snooping
[21:45] <daftykins> 'fraid not
[21:46] <TJ-> Looks like a candidate for a few days tinkering and hacking :)