[13:51] <djo_> iskam da poigravam
[13:52] <cfhowlett> no polish - too many vowels ...
[13:52] <UbOne> djo what games?
[13:52] <djo_> i pm you
[13:53] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I went through the ubuntu installation 14.04 on a new thinkserver (desktop version of ubuntu though). The install went all correct and rebooted, but not it will not boot from the hard drive
[13:54] <Pinkamena_D> any suggestions
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: what error you getting?
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> no error, it just acts like the hard drive has nothing bootable
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> goes to next drvice
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: did you clean install ubuntu, or dualboot?
[13:56] <Pinkamena_D> clean
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: can you enter grub at boot holding shift?
[13:57] <Joe_DM> Actually just thinking back, Didnt ubuntu workstation have a downloadable .exe that you run from windows and it just automatically setups up dual boot?
[13:57] <dbugger> I have a issue with bower and npm, could someone give me a hand with it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/474323/uninstalling-bower-installed-with-a-different-version-of-npm
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Joe_DM
[13:58] <noiro_> where does wget default save to?
[13:58] <Joe_DM> ubottu: shows how long since i used workstation
[13:58] <Joe_DM> noiro: wget saves to your working directory
[13:58] <genii> noiro_: Whatever directory you ran it from
[13:59] <glenn9k> HI guys. Just installed 14.04 32bit. My Intel 3945ABG wifi it detected, detects networks, but seems to timeout when I try to connect to them. Any ideas?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> glenn9k: clean install or upgrade?
[14:00] <Pinkamena_D> in the process of trying again with manual partitions
[14:00] <Joe_DM> dfglenn9k: common suggestion is disable ipv6
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Pinkamena_D: maybe bios is set to first boot another HD?
[14:00] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, Clean install
[14:01] <glenn9k> Joe_DM, ok, how?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> glenn9k: you enabled updates during setup?
[14:01] <Joe_DM> glenn9k: I'm more a server guy, dunno about workstation
[14:01] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, I was running 12.04 before. Wifi worked fine there.. it is possible that I did something to get it working back when 12.04 was installed though...
[14:02] <glenn9k> lotuspsychje, Yup, updates enabled during install, and after. ALl updates applied
[14:02] <glenn9k> (via lan cable)
[14:03] <noiro_> If a wav file is only 200kb, would you assume it's improperly downloaded? Do I need special arguments?
[14:03] <glenn9k> noiro_, 200kb wav must be a very, very short sound, or it is not complete
[14:05] <Joe_DM> Could be a system sounds
[14:09] <glenn9k> so... no ideas on how to get the 3945ABG to connect to stuff?
[14:10] <glenn9k> I really don't want to have to install windows :(
[14:11] <glenn9k> "Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection driver: iwl3945"
[14:19] <zylex> hello :) can anyone help me with a problem?
[14:19] <zylex> steam related
[14:20] <glenn9k> ask the question and we'll see. :)
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !ask|zylex
[14:21] <iizarianw> Hello. I'm using cifs shares on 12.04 boxes. I have some caching problems sometimes with directory lists and files themselves. Users sometimes try to access a file that has been renamed which results in an error. Or a user will reopen and image file that has been completely modified and see the old version. I happens infrequently enough for clearing cache to be an appropriate solution. Disabling cache entirely isn't really a good option since remote users wo
[14:23] <zylex> i have a problem with steam, "Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.  i use radeon hd 7870.  and driver from amds site
[14:24] <glenn9k> I'm not used to AMD products... But isn't there a driver available directly from ubuntu's driver manager?
[14:24] <glenn9k> (settings > software & sources > driver blabla)
[14:25] <jettex> i have 7870 too ... no probs with steam at all with beta driver from amd
[14:25] <zylex> there is a couple of drivers there
[14:25] <glenn9k> zylex, then try them. they're optimized for ubuntu
[14:25] <zylex> however i cant select them now :(
[14:25] <glenn9k> Hmm, try to find a way to uninstall the stuff from AMD's site
[14:26] <glenn9k> if you can't reinstall ubuntu and then select a driver from the driver manager instead
[14:26] <glenn9k> woops, missed a comma there. "If you can't, reinstall..........."
[14:26] <zylex> k
[14:27] <UbOne> is it possible to play lineage 2 on ubuntu ?
[14:27] <glenn9k> if it's listed as linux compatible on steam, then yes
[14:27] <glenn9k> I don't have steam installed though, so I can't check
[14:30] <iceburned> check
[14:31] <zylex> uninstalling was abit more then i thougt :D
[14:32] <iceburned> test
[14:32] <jettex> guys ... any1 able to help me with a conky problem?
[14:33] <iceburned> conky what for?
[14:33] <jettex> its running without errors ... but look -> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3638/63gdvane_png.htm
[14:34] <jettex> and heres -> http://pastebin.com/6MwcmKZF
[14:35] <jettex> its my old .conkyrc which i used all the time b4 .. but now i switched from debian wheezy to 14.04 .. and bang.. problems -.-
[14:39] <winthrop> !list
[14:42] <iceburned> I just want to ask a question. actually what for conky is?
[14:42] <ck077685> conky is for displaying 'useful' stats
[14:42] <SchrodingersScat> !info conky | iceburned, idk, but people talk about it:
[14:43] <iceburned> how to use it (conky)?
[14:44] <SchrodingersScat> iceburned: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[14:45] <diamonds> yo
[14:46] <diamonds> sleep 3 && /usr/bin/nmcli con up uuid xxxxxx
[14:46] <diamonds> I have this in my `startup applications`
[14:46] <diamonds> why doesn't it work (?)
[14:46] <diamonds> trying to autoconnect VPN on startup
[14:46] <rio_zenta> When I startup my dual-boot computer, I get to either boot to windows or to ubuntu. However, Ubuntu is the second choice. How do I change the order so that ubuntu is first?
[14:47] <diamonds> rio_zenta, http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[14:47] <rio_zenta> thanks diamonds!!!
[14:47] <diamonds> np let us know if it works :)
[14:47]  * diamonds awaits his karmic payback
[14:47] <iceburned> how to setting vpn?
[14:47] <diamonds> someone will tell me how to connect VPN on startup :)
[14:48] <diamonds> iceburned, who is your provider?
[14:48] <diamonds> actually maybe it doesn't matter, i'm not sure... I use privateinternetaccess & they have instructions specifically for ubuntu
[14:49] <iceburned> smartfren from indonesia
[14:49] <iceburned> diamonds
[14:49] <someHuman> Oh man!
[14:49] <someHuman> My Firefox sucks!
[14:50] <someHuman> Does anyone have the same problem?
[14:50]  * diamonds blinks
[14:50] <diamonds> someHuman, ??
[14:50] <rio_zenta> someHuman: We don't know the problem
[14:50] <someHuman> It seems buggy and all, laggy or sketchy?
[14:50] <someHuman> Hmmm, I'd say it's sketchy.
[14:50] <diamonds> iceburned, I'm not sure, I'm sorry
[14:50] <diamonds> I'm actually here for VPN help myself
[14:50] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: it feels like it's been going downhill, but that's probably !ot
[14:51] <someHuman> -_-
[14:51] <someHuman> I want to install Opera though.
[14:51] <diamonds> iceburned, have you looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[14:51] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: you can
[14:51] <cfhowlett> someHuman so?  install it.
[14:51] <someHuman> Help?
[14:51] <someHuman> I already have the .deb
[14:51] <someHuman> I can't install it via Software Center
[14:51] <cfhowlett> someHuman sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[14:52] <Hanumaan> is there any tool in ubuntu to get notified if a server is not running via email ?
[14:52] <reisio> someHuman: you don't want Opera, and even if you did, you wouldn't want to do it with a random .deb
[14:52] <thecha> cfhowlett get firefox instead
[14:52] <someHuman> Well what's the best browser?
[14:52] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: why would it be random? they offer it on their site.
[14:52] <thecha> somehuman: get firefox
[14:52] <reisio> Firefox, still
[14:52] <cfhowlett> someHuman there is no "best".
[14:52] <reisio> that doesn't make it great, just less awful
[14:53] <compdoc> firefox is good. and I like Chrome
[14:53] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: site? What is this, Windows?
[14:53] <reisio> don't know about you, but I have a package manager
[14:53] <thecha> firefox is amazing, but if you want to go all the way try abrowser
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !browser
[14:53] <someHuman> Firefox works fine but it acts sketchy.
[14:53] <reisio> they all do
[14:53] <reisio> too busy screwing with the UI
[14:53] <jeffasinger> Hanumaan: I use pingdom for that, not in ubuntu per say
[14:53] <diamonds> lol
[14:53] <diamonds> "Firefox + a bunch of chromium clones"
[14:53] <thecha> someHuman get abrowser it is firefox but 100% opensource and free osftware
[14:53] <diamonds> yeah I know konq came first
[14:54] <reisio> diamonds: :p
[14:54]  * diamonds uses chromium-browser
[14:54] <thecha> firefox minus the sketchy parts = abrowser
[14:54] <someHuman> Ok, thanks guys!
[14:54] <diamonds> but I pray every day for FF to get better enough to switch back to it
[14:54]  * diamonds prays
[14:54] <reisio> yeah they're lost
[14:54] <thecha> diamonds what are you using?
[14:54] <reisio> the time for custom Firefox builds is now
[14:55] <nagyz> hi
[14:55] <nagyz> could someone clarify for me how cloud-init fills out /etc/network/interface, if at all?
[14:55] <nagyz> can it only do so if it's provided by the cloud provider?
[14:55] <nagyz> I'm trying to use it without a proper metadata service, just running with a config drive.
[14:55] <diamonds> thecha, chromium-browser
[14:56] <rio_zenta> chrome and chromium isn't that much better than FF. Try opening 20 tabs in chrome
[14:56] <diamonds> thecha, I hope FF will get their dev tools up to snuff but chromium is just waaaaay beyond them at this point
[14:56] <diamonds> I've used opera on and off as well
[14:56] <rio_zenta> oh yes, the new FF is chrome-skinned too.
[14:56] <Joe_DM> If you want chrome, just get chrome
[14:56] <ben_g> Hi
[14:57] <Joe_DM> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79280/how-to-install-chrome-browser-properly-via-command-line
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, That is an opinion and biased, why are you espousing it?
[14:57] <reisio> Firefox has a lot of management problems, but not nearly as many as Google
[14:57] <dannyedwrds> Im trying to setup my CAC Card Reader in ubuntu 14.04 but the program CACKey that the ubuntu documentation wont install it says that failed to install
[14:57] <reisio> dannyedwrds: cac?
[14:57] <ben_g> I think I have a problem with my graphics card driver
[14:57] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, ...because someone asked?
[14:58] <floridsdorf> hi
[14:58] <reisio> ben_g: thinking again? :)
[14:58] <reisio> floridsdorf: heyo
[14:58] <diamonds> "what's the best browser" ... "diamonds: what do you use" < wilee-nilee
[14:58] <cfhowlett> .... moving on ...
[14:58] <rio_zenta> Cue: Flame-wars for tah browser
[14:58]  * diamonds nods
[14:58] <dannyedwrds> reisio: Its a card that allows me access to certain sites im in the army
[14:58] <ben_g> My computer regularly freezes
[14:58] <ben_g> But sounds keep playing
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, That does not mean it is valid here is all. What you use is not thew same as "best". ;)
[14:59] <rio_zenta> dannyedwrds: Probably best not to disclose that on IRC, as the chats are logged...
[14:59] <cfhowlett> dannyedwrds see you hardware documentation
[14:59] <ben_g> And when I press ctrl+alt+f1, I can switch to text mode, then I can switch back to the GUI and it works again for a while
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: there is no single best. If an outright best existed, the others would die out as nobody would use them
[14:59] <reisio> dannyedwrds: oh, hardware key?
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> rio_zenta, we don't do flame wars here that is my point.
[14:59] <ben_g> I'm not sure, but I think it's the graphics card that causes that behavious
[14:59] <reisio> rio_zenta: I doubt it's top secret :p
[14:59] <ben_g> *behaviour
[15:00] <dannyedwrds> rio_zenta: I have been reading the documentation  and have installed everything software exept for this program and it just fails to install
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: what GPU are you using?
[15:00] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, use whatever you want :) someone asked me & I was just sharing my personal experience as a web-dev
[15:00] <diamonds> anyway someone let me know if you know how to get VPN to connect on startup
[15:00] <rio_zenta> dannyedwrds: If it's hardware, then you're likely looking for a driver.
[15:00] <ben_g> I'm using my nvidia geforce 710M GPU with the nvidia drivers
[15:00] <diamonds> I tried adding to "startup programs" but it doesn't seem to do it
[15:00] <cfhowlett> dannyedwrds again: it's not by canonical/ubuntu, it's not FROM canonical/ubuntu so ... start with the OEM for support
[15:00] <leetdood> Is it possible to use a DNSBL with iptables?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: I do, always have. Its why I use Ubuntu (and Linux in general) people laughed when I was installing Mandrake whilst they were installing Windows XP
[15:00] <ben_g> on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:01] <leetdood> someone is attempting to spam my game via proxies (they got mad because they got banned)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !ufw|leetdood
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: if you can pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia      it will help
[15:01] <rio_zenta> leetdood, server issue?
[15:01] <leetdood> yeah, server issue
[15:01] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, yeah but XP was p. good tho
[15:01] <cfhowlett> !server|leetdood
[15:02] <leetdood> oh, thank you
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: at the time it was the newest release from Microsoft, but it didnt suit my needs. So I used something else.
[15:02] <reisio> leetdood: fail2ban, etc.
[15:02] <ben_g> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tu4AfGyg
[15:02] <leetdood> thank you reisio
[15:03] <diamonds> ActionParsnip, I want you to rewind time & switch to XP 10 years ago. I insist
[15:03] <rio_zenta> let me disappear for a while. See you guys later.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> diamonds: not used Windows on my own PCs since 2000 dude, not starting now
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: is this a laptop?
[15:03] <ben_g> Yes
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: run:  sudo dpkg -P nvidia-304 nvidia-libopencl1-304 nvidia-libopencl1-331 nvidia-opencl-icd-304     will clean up the packages some, you could try looking into Bumblebee too, you also have an Intel GPU in your system which may cause issues
[15:05] <ben_g> Well, the guy who installed the drivers on my laptop said bumblebee was rather unstable
[15:06] <ben_g> And I don't really want to mess too much with my drivers, since I screwed up before when trying to install them myself
[15:07] <ben_g> Anyway, I ran that command to clean up the packages. I'll reboot now, brb
[15:09] <ben_g_> I'm back
[15:10] <djo_> o
[15:10] <iceburned> Why my laptop does not detect wi-fi signal? any suggestion?
[15:11] <reisio> iceburned: what's the wireless device?
[15:11] <reisio> ben_g_: wb
[15:12] <iceburned> reisio : 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Memory at f0100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[15:12] <iceburned> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[15:12] <unopaste> iceburned you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:13] <genii> Meh, Broadcoms
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[15:14] <reisio> iceburned: ^
[15:22] <chenxiongfei> 有马尼拉的同学吗？
[15:22] <cfhowlett> !cn|chenxiongfei
[15:22] <compdoc> thats easy for you to say
[15:25] <bbrges> super+m opens "music". how can i disable that? Ubuntu 14.04
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: tried keyboard under system settings?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: do you use the music lens?
[15:26] <weevieL2> compizconfig?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> bbrges: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142119/how-can-i-assign-the-key-superm-to-minimize-all-windows-in-ubuntu-12-04
[15:27] <bbrges> @ActionParsnip i don't use music lens
[15:28] <OerHeks> 'opens music' = music lens in dash
[15:28] <bbrges> @ActionParsnip didn't find it in "Keyboard"
[15:28] <reisio> you could try egrep -ilr music ~/.config
[15:28] <reisio> might get lucky and find it fast
[15:28] <bbrges> @OerHeks yes I want it to NOT open that
[15:30] <weevieL2> god damn I love Fry's
[15:30] <marscher> what maybe broken in my init system, if startup goes fine, but hangs on shutdown/reboot?
[15:31] <bbrges> @reisio found two files. None of them is keyboard shortcut
[15:31] <zh> http://youtu.be/gZakKwQ-gFM :(
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> weevieL2, This is a world wide channel not swearing, this is a multicultural/intercultural place think before posting please. ;)
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> no*
[15:35] <kilopy> is there a way to install multiloader on ubuntu to flash a cellular?
[15:35] <kilopy> or an alternative?
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, THe google play multloader?
[15:35] <OerHeks> bbrges, odd, i cannot find them in keybindigs too > press Alt+F2 and enter dconf-editor, then navigate to org > gnome > desktop > wm > keybindings
[15:36] <kilopy> wilee-nilee: Is it for installation or online use? I'd like to flash a samsumg corby..
[15:37] <kilopy> samsung
[15:37] <bbrges> @OerHeks I need to install "dconf-editor"?
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, You can flash from linux or windows, in general it depends on the phone. The google play multiloader wont run on that I believe and is a android app, just had to ask.
[15:38] <OerHeks> bbrges, yes, it is not installed standard.
[15:39] <OerHeks> but i cannot find that shortkey win+m  :-(
[15:41] <hubelibub> hi! is it common behavior that the exit/minimize/maximize buttons don't show in thunderbird
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:42] <OerHeks> hubelibub, sure, they show up on the top panel
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> kilopy, You can sideload maybe from recovery, this may not be supported or the best channel, I would ask in #android or #android-root or ##linux or #ubuntu-touch thisinfo is on the web though hopefully per your phone.
[15:42] <schone> hello
[15:43] <reisio> 'lo schone
[15:43] <schone> in hte new trusty 14.04 release, utilizing the cloud ready image, is the user ubuntu and it’s home directory only created on the first run?
[15:43] <schone> cause i’m trying to chown a file to ubuntu:ubuntu and i get back no such user
[15:43] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:43] <iceburned> why my firefox always shows install flash, install plugin
[15:44] <OerHeks> iceburned, if you have a working flashplugin, those warnings are malware.
[15:44] <hubelibub> OerHeks, they don't show up on the top panel, unlike in other applications
[15:45] <kilopy> wilee-nilee: The phome i'd flash is a samsung corby. It is old and doesn't runs android. By the way, what is the hardware requirement to install android or ubuntu touch? Do you know about it?
[15:45] <iceburned> so, 0erHeks many sites that I visited is malware? including facebook, wordpress, etc?
[15:46] <iceburned> so, OerHeks many sites that I visited is malware? including facebook, wordpress, etc?
[15:46] <OerHeks> iceburned, are you sure they want you to install flash, or silverlight?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: let me search online
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: are you using Unity shell?
[15:48] <iceburned> OerHeks flash
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: if you hit F11 whilst Thunderbird is the window with focus, doe sit help?
[15:50] <OerHeks> iceburned, if you have a working flashplugin, then yes.
[15:50] <OerHeks> show us a screenshot :-)
[15:50] <elbriga> !ubuntu-rox
[15:51] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip, yes i use Unity and hitting f11 doesnt help
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> hubelibub: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace     does it help?
[15:54] <hubelibub> ActionParsnip: doesnt help
[15:56] <udo> hello how can i install the mate falvoured desktop ?
[15:56] <mixer1> anyone knows what needs hardware accelerated Open GL Rendering Install appropriate graphic driver means?
[15:57] <reisio> udo: 's'called 'mate-desktop', IIRC
[15:57] <reisio> mixer1: hrmm?
[15:57] <udo> reisio, yes this is installed, but it looks like an "old ubuntu" desktop eg ubuntu 10
[15:58] <udo> i would like to have the "normal " mate
[15:58] <OerHeks> udo, that is what mate is, the old desktop for those who do not want gnome3
[15:59] <OerHeks> udo, how different is this to mint+mate?
[15:59] <shunya_chakra> hi I accidently type rm -rf * in my home dir
[15:59] <shunya_chakra> is there way to recover all those things?
[15:59] <udo> OerHeks, im now on mint 17
[15:59] <reisio> udo: 's'probably named something else
[15:59] <reisio> like mint-desktop or something
[15:59] <marscher> shunya_chakra, use your backups
[15:59] <reisio> ask the mint channel on irc.spotchat.org
[16:00] <udo> i updated from release to release
[16:00] <shunya_chakra> marscher, I haven't made :(
[16:00] <OerHeks> udo,  so you complaint is about mint+mate in the ubuntu channel ... fun
[16:00] <shunya_chakra> marscher, is there any command which can undone it?
[16:00] <marscher> shunya_chakra, filesystem?
[16:00] <angry_dude> IF YOU WRITE "REPLACE WINDOWS 7" DON'T WRITE "IT WILL DELETE YOUR DOCUMENTS, PHOTOS AND MUSIC" BUT WRITE "IT'LL WIPE YOUR WHOLE FUCKING HARDDRIVE". AND YES, I HAD A BACKUP.
[16:01] <shunya_chakra> marscher, filesystem???
[16:01] <marscher> like ext4, reiserfs, etc...
[16:01] <udo> OerHeks, i know, but normally with mint there is the xchat installed wich is already configured for a mint irc
[16:01] <shunya_chakra> marscher, how can i know it
[16:01] <udo> but , well something went wrong so i dont know now the mint irc (without  the browser)
[16:02] <marscher> shunya_chakra, mount
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> angry_dude: did your windows partition occupy the entire drive?
[16:02] <reisio> yes, and while you're at it, you better explain how to tie shoe laces every time you say replace windows
[16:02] <nashant> Hey guys. For some reason the installer doesn't see my Marvell SATA controller (which has the 2 SSD disks I want to install it attached)
[16:02] <h00k> angry_dude: please keep the lanauge appropriate for in here, also the caps was a tad excessive
[16:02] <reisio> angry_dude: ubuntu, har :p
[16:02] <shunya_chakra> marscher, ext4 is coming
[16:02] <bazhang> !mintsupport | udo
[16:02] <reisio> nashant: use better installer
[16:02] <nashant> reisio: The server installer shouldn't be enough?
[16:03] <marscher> shunya_chakra, maybe there is way to undelete on ext4, but I do not know it. maybe google helps
[16:03] <shunya_chakra> thanks marscher
[16:03] <marscher> http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[16:03] <udo> ubottu, you have connection settings for irc.spotchat.org
[16:04] <marscher> shunya_chakra, you should stop using the mount point at least, to increase chance to recover stuff
[16:04] <reisio> nashant: are you asking me what you already know?
[16:04] <shunya_chakra> mount point means?
[16:04] <shunya_chakra> marscher,
[16:05] <reisio> nashant: you can always build an install (including placing in custom drivers) in a VM and copy it to metal later
[16:05] <nashant> reisio: I guess I'll try previous versions and see if they have the drivers built in (then dist-upgrade)
[16:05] <marscher> shunya_chakra, i guess you have your home dir resides on the same mount point as root?
[16:06] <shunya_chakra> yup
[16:06] <marscher> so you shouldn't use the system anymore and recover using a livecd
[16:06] <marscher> because with every write to the filesystem you will loose data
[16:07] <shunya_chakra> marscher, this is same like creating extra partition in window like d, e, f
[16:07] <shunya_chakra> creatin other mount
[16:07] <marscher> yes
[16:08] <marscher> like / is C: and your home dir is linked to D: or something
[16:08] <marscher> now this getting ugly :D
[16:08] <shunya_chakra> that's cool, how can i create that
[16:08] <shunya_chakra> marscher?
[16:08] <marscher> you havn't had it as you deleted everything, so now you have to use a livecd
[16:09] <marscher> google partitioning linux
[16:09] <marscher> or separate mointpoint home
[16:09] <iceburned> how to customize conky?
[16:09] <marscher> but actually creating backups should be easier :P
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> iceburned, Tons of this on the web, and a gigantic conky thread at the ubuntu forums.
[16:10] <shunya_chakra> marscher, yup are right from next I'll always back up myd data
[16:10] <h00k> iceburned: there's a .conkyrc file in your home directory, and there's a ton of themes on the forums
[16:10] <h00k> iceburned: ~/.conkyrc
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> iceburned, I would start with someone else's conky build to experiment, it is basically code, there have to be millions out there to try.
[16:12] <UbOne> any good dark ubuntu theme
[16:13] <bazhang> !themes | UbOne have a look
[16:14] <OerHeks> 2222+ pages with conky examples & screenshots http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2279
[16:15] <nashant> is there a terminal I can drop to with the server iso? I want to check syslog
[16:17] <reisio> nashant: CTRL+ALT+F2 (+F7 to go back, usually)
[16:17] <reisio> though it might be F1
[16:18] <nashant> right the first time, thanks :)
[16:18] <domovoi> I am using ubuntu 14.04 , recently updated and now I cant log out  ,  click log off, it does nothing ,   but i can run kill -9 -1 and get back to the lockscreen
[16:20] <stmaher> Hi guys
[16:20] <stmaher> trying to install 14.4 and i get a ubiquity crash when I go to partition the hard drive..
[16:20] <stmaher> Does anyone know of this issue or a workaround?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: if you burned a CD / DVD did you burn as slowly as possible?
[16:21] <stmaher> ActionParsnip I have tried a dvd and a usb pen drive
[16:21] <stmaher> both with the same issue
[16:22] <nashant> any idea how I can diagnose why the 2 disks connected to the second SATA controller aren't being detected? The controller shows up in lspci, is using the AHCI driver and module (lspci -k), and looks to be fine under lspci -vv
[16:22] <reisio> stmaher: try the minimalcd image
[16:22] <reisio> stmaher: or partition with any other live image first
[16:23] <wilee-nilee> hi ho  hi ho it;s off to manual installing I go
[16:24] <stmaher> reisio  will give the minimal cd a go..
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the image you downloaded?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> nashant: just because a device shows in lspci doent mean it is configured to work
[16:26] <nashant> ActionParsnip: so how would I get it configured to work? If it's using the correct kernel drivers and modules should it not work?
[16:26] <harm> hey I'm trying to connect to the internet with my ac600 USB stick but it is not working
[16:26] <OerHeks> stmaher, is your bios set to protect the mbr?
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> harm, Must be wifi eh? run lsusb and see if it shows.
[16:27] <robotdevil> there is a nice little app that check open connections, its not netstat...
[16:27] <harm> Wilde the USB shows
[16:27] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Or at least how would I go about diagnosing why it's not working?
[16:27] <harm> Willie*
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> nashant: what is the sata chip in use?
[16:27] <harm> on a tablet now
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> harm, You can tab complete nicks, name the wifi hardware to the channel.
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> the exact name
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> stmaher: did you MD5 test the image you downloaded?
[16:28] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Marvel 88SE9172
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> nashant: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:28] <robotdevil> it had a unique name iirc
[16:28] <harm> wilie all it says is sitecom Europe b.v.
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> harm, If the tablet has not tab complete get the nicks spelled right or we are not notified your pinging.
[16:29] <nashant> ActionParsnip: no such file. I'm on the server installer terminal at the moment
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> nashant: ahh I see
[16:29] <stmaher> Interesting.. I think its having difficulty detecting the sata disk
[16:29] <stmaher> fdisk shows /dev/sda however the installer only shows /dev/sdb
[16:29] <stmaher> (sdb being the usb pen drive with the minimal disk on it)
[16:30] <harm> wilie-nilee alright. lsusb shows the hardware is there
[16:30] <stmaher> this was the point where it was crashing on the X GUI installer
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> nashant: which server OS / release are you installing?
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> harm, So do you know if this usb wifi is supposed to work, there are many that plug and play and are cheap.
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> harm, I would not bother with one that did not myself but I'm not you
[16:31] <harm> wiliee-nilee there are Linux drivers on the site.. which didn't make.. and then I tried a work around using a git which also doesn't work.. it make a .KO file but that doesn't work since my adopter doesn't show up
[16:32] <stmaher> would anyone have any idea why the installer isnt picking up both disks? i tried partitioning /dev/sda in fdisk to see if it would pick it up .. however no luck
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> harm, Can I see the site?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> nashant: which image did you use to make the install media?
[16:32] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Well at the moment I'm on 12.04, because I tried 14.04 and it wasn't working. Thought I would try this, but still no love. It looks like I might need to have options ahci marvel_enable=1 in modprobe
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> nashant: try running:     echo 1b4b 917a > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ahci/new_id      it may help (http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/155387/)
[16:33] <harm> wilie-nilee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215827
[16:33] <robotdevil> might have started with the letter b
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> nashant: also found http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/ saying the same.....
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> harm, How is this related, can you share this?  EDIMAX EW-7811UTC
[16:35] <harm> same as the ac600.. its the model name or something
[16:36] <harm> wilie-nilee same as the ac600 see the website offivial http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=498&pl1_id=28&pl2_id=138
[16:36] <nashant> ActionParsnip: How do I now exit the installer terminal?
[16:36] <nashant> got it
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> harm, I see the relevance now,
[16:37] <mikedevita> hey all, i have an openldap server with users home dirs set as /mnt/home/*.. however on the file server (where the home dirs are hosted via nfs) the path to those home dirs are actually /mnt/vault/home/*. Do you know if i can add an entry into /etc/fstab to sym link /mnt/vault/home to /mnt/home ?
[16:37] <mikedevita> is it mount --bind?
[16:38] <harm> wilie-nilee it goes wrong when I modprobe
[16:38] <harm> wilie-nilee it just won't load the driver or anyway the adopter doesn't show
[16:39] <iceburned> what favorite download manager do you use in ubuntu?
[16:39] <Cheekio> is the 'Disks' utility's format ability still broken in 14.04?
[16:39] <xMopxShell> hey, i just set up a fresh 14.04 install, and activated remote desktop. when I try to log in with any vnc client, i get an error saying: Unknown authType 18
[16:39] <xMopxShell> it seems to be a common issue, but i can't find a fix.
[16:40] <stmaher> Found the problem.. bios was set to use ahci to present the disks to the os.. I swapped that to raid and the installer manager picked it up..
[16:40] <stmaher> wasted 4 hours on this (puke)
[16:40] <stmaher> Im not blaming linux.. its the dodgy hardware its using :-(
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> harm, I can't really help with unpacking a loading with any real finalization of you being set. I will point out though that the helper on the link is one of the best in this area, have you made a thread there?
[16:42] <harm> wilie-nilee no I didn't.. darn.. I'm switching to Ubuntu 12.04 which should work with the drivers from the m!anufactorer
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> harm, Cool you may get help here, you want a few iron's in the fire is all. ;)
[16:44] <harm> wilie-nilee I have been using Ubuntu since harty
[16:44] <harm> wilie-nilee I hope this driver nonsense gets resolved soon.. this is killing me and most normal usets
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> stmaher, Can we curb the emotional diatribe and biased comments, it means nothing to us, and just is a waste of time. ;)
[16:45] <Bruno_> I've installed a game from the software ubuntu center, and i'd like to review it, but when i try to, it opens up a login window, and is forever loading.
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> harm, most normal users was that?
[16:46] <harm> wilie-nilee yeah,. I mean irc and helpers can only do so much
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> harm, Just for the record, broad statements do not fly with me, use what is known to work. I see hardly nothing on this unit and ubuntu on the web.
[16:48] <nashant> ActionParsnip: So is there no chance for me to install onto disks connected to that controller then?
[16:48] <harm> wilie-nilee hmm before this I got a Cisco ae2500 adopter.. also not working on 14.04 I just hope manufacturers get it together soon
[16:49] <daftykins> nashant: does your board not have native SATA 6Gb ports?
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> harm, I would not hold your breath for manufacturers, not a profitable market I suspect, otherwise we would see them more, just a guess though.
[16:50] <nashant> daftykins: It does, but I'm going to be running Xen and need to pass that whole controller through to a VM
[16:51] <daftykins> nashant: ah... good luck, i keep seeing people having issues trying to boot Xen kernels under modern ubuntus
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> nashant: not sure
[16:51] <Bruno_> hi all . I've installed a game from the software ubuntu center, and i'd like to review it, but when i try to, it opens up a login window, and is forever loading.
[16:52] <nashant> daftykins: Well this is a bloody nightmare then. I really need to get a GPU passed through to another VM and it's just not working on XenServer
[16:52] <daftykins> Bruno_: version? are you fully updated?
[16:52] <Bruno_> I am fully updated running the latest version of xubuntu.
[16:53] <daftykins> nashant: well, Xen is not the #1 virt tech for ubuntu, i believe KVM is. it really depends what you're trying to achieve
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> harm, Might be worth checking out, http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_14/183-5855483-1001157?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=wifi%20usb%20linux&sprefix=wifi+usb+linux%2Caps%2C630
[16:53] <daftykins> Bruno_: close it and then run it from a terminal to watch any debug output
[16:54] <nashant> daftykins: Doesn't really make much difference if I can't install ubuntu. Which at the moment seems to be the situation.
[16:54] <Bruno_> daftykins how do i run it from a terminal?
[16:54] <daftykins> nashant: you kind of jumped from talking about controller passthrough to GPU passthrough, which was quite confusing
[16:55] <daftykins> Bruno_: try "software-center"
[16:55] <harm> wilie-nilee nice.. but I live in NL so can't order on amazon and I like stores
[16:55] <harm> wilie-nilee thanks for your help.. I will try with Ubuntu 12.04
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> harm, Stores are fine, however researching is a good idea.
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> any store is not going to be linux centric is all
[16:57] <nashant> daftykins: Sorry about that. I've got a SATA controller passed through to one VM, which works perfectly, and I'm trying to pass through my Radeon HD6450 to another, which isn't working at all
[16:58] <Bruno_> daftykins: bruno@bruno-MS-7848:~$ software-center 2014-05-30 18:56:19,001 - softwarecenter.backend.zeitgeist_logger - WARNING - Support for Zeitgeist disabled 2014-05-30 18:56:19,048 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.app - INFO - setting up proxy 'None' 2014-05-30 18:56:19,198 - softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .s
[16:58] <daftykins> nashant: i take it you have multiple graphics cards to be trying to do that?
[16:58] <daftykins> !paste | Bruno_
[16:58] <Bruno_> !paste
[16:58] <daftykins> Bruno_: you don't repeat the bot trigger, you read what ubottu said
[16:58] <luke__> hey, i have a problem with my pm-hibernate. I run it and after a WOL message i send it doesnt boot finally up
[16:58] <nashant> daftykins: Yeah, got an nvidia 210 for the dom0
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/358491/unable-to-turn-on-recommendations-in-ubuntu-software-center
[16:58] <luke__> i need to press ENTER on keyboard, after this the system strarts
[16:59] <luke__> any idea why? i dont want to press ENTER after wol on hibernation
[16:59] <luke__> cant find any google hit about this
[16:59] <Bruno_> ill try that ACtionParsnip
[17:00] <luke__> right after i press enter the systgem finally boots up. never before
[17:00] <daftykins> nashant: ah ok, i'd guess that's more Xen help related than ubuntu, as Xen isn't the #1 virt tech as mentioned. i'm not sure if they have any channels or networks to ask in
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: took me seconds to find
[17:02] <nashant> daftykins: I've been sat in #xen for days. At the moment still no luck. Got suggested to try the latest and greatest on Ubuntu. That's out. Unless I get a pci-e sata controller, I guess
[17:02] <Bruno_> OMG it worked. So the problem is I didnt have a package installed?
[17:02] <Bruno_> the ubuntu-sso-client-qt package
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: looks that way
[17:03] <daftykins> nashant: 'out' ? as in a latest ubuntu version and dom0 kernel?
[17:03] <Bruno_> Weird. very weird. Thanks anyway. :)
[17:03] <nashant> out as in off, can't do it.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: havent you seen that page though....?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Bruno_: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=failed+to+use+geoclue+ubuntu   2nd link down.....
[17:05] <xMopxShell> hey, i just set up a fresh 14.04 install, and activated remote desktop. when I try to log in with any vnc client, i get an error saying something like: Unknown authType 18. How can I fix this?
[17:06] <daftykins> xMopxShell: first google result - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220275
[17:07] <xMopxShell> daftykins: already been there, didn't work. I wouldnt be asking here if it had.
[17:08] <daftykins> xMopxShell: so you applied *both* parts including the dconf one?
[17:08] <daftykins> xMopxShell: also, you'd be surprised at the number of questions we get from those unwilling to help themselves, so please don't be too frustrated
[17:09] <xMopxShell> simply telling people to go google things isn't what irc is for :-)
[17:09] <OerHeks> it takes a reboot for vnc to work, right?
[17:09] <specing> Hello, are there non-desktop daily images available? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ only lists desktop ones...
[17:10] <daftykins> xMopxShell: volunteer helpers are not a substitute for google. now please stop sharing your opinions
[17:10] <xMopxShell> oh, so you're one of those zealots. Ok.
[17:11] <daftykins> i'm sorry that you've taken such offence, but if we can get back on topic now that would be great.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> mmmm entitlement
[17:11] <daftykins> so, have you followed both pieces of advice in that forum thread?
[17:11] <OerHeks> specing, daily server ?
[17:11] <trism> specing: there are a variety: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[17:12] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[17:12] <jtane> hello, i'm trying to ensure a storage device is disconnected by doing echo 1 > /sys/block/device-name/device/delete, but i'm getting '-bash: No such file or directory'
[17:12] <OerHeks> specing, that would be 14.10, alfa
[17:12] <intok> How do you remove the amazon etc stuff from 14.04?
[17:13] <reisio> jtane: use tab to complete the path, and you'll know it's a real path
[17:13] <OerHeks> intok, just disable it in settings > privacy
[17:13] <reisio> jtane: also you'd probably have to use sudo
[17:13] <specing> should I go "cloud-live" or "server" for running in a VM?
[17:13] <reisio> specing: for doing what?
[17:13] <compdoc> well, /sys/block/device-name/device/delete does sound like an example more than an actual device
[17:13] <reisio> a... server?
[17:13] <specing> Do the kernels/userlands differ between desktop, cloud-live and server?
[17:14] <jtane> reisio: thanks, i have done both to no avail - ps. the storage is a xen vbd, if that matters
[17:14] <specing> reisio: testing LXC user namespace virtualization
[17:14] <reisio> specing: if you don't know how they differ, then you don't need something named after a buzzword like cloud
[17:14] <daftykins> specing: kernels no longer differ between desktop and server, no
[17:14] <specing> and base utilities/userspace?
[17:14] <specing> should I go "cloud-live" or "server"?
[17:14] <intok> OerHeks I want to completely uninstall it, I found how to in 14.04 before when I installed 14.04 on a previous system, but DDG and Google are currently failing me this time around
[17:15] <daftykins> specing: all the same repos i think. please don't repeat yourself.
[17:16] <reisio> intok: dpkg -l | grep -i lens
[17:16] <reisio> intok: it's one of those
[17:22] <jtane> compdoc: sorry i did not paste the real name of the device as i thought it would not be helpful
[17:22] <jtane> buit i am sure the device path was correct
[17:22] <jtane> i can list the contents with ls
[17:23] <compdoc> ok, just making sure
[17:23] <jtane> the device folder contains: block  devtype  driver  modalias  nodename  power  subsystem  uevent
[17:25] <jtane> can anyone point me to good docs on how the /sys/block filesystem works / how to use?
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: pretty much how the command you got makes use of it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> jtane: asking in #linux may be useful too
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: only the path has to be real
[17:29] <reisio> jtane: and you'll probably need sudo, as already explained
[17:30] <jtane> ActionParsnip: ok will try that
[17:31] <jtane> reisio: as mentioned, i am root :-)
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> hi when will this bug will be fixed
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847
[17:32] <reisio> jtane: then you're good
[17:32] <shunya_chakra> ubottu
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Ask them we would not know.
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> this is a volunteer situation is all
[17:38] <shunya_chakra> wilee-nilee, who ?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Not sure my self, I think the key word is patience. ;)
[17:40] <shunya_chakra> ok wilee-nilee, :) "Keep calm and wait for fix."
[17:40] <shunya_chakra> is there dev channel of ubuntu?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Yeah #ubuntu-dev not sure if it's open I think it is
[17:41] <ikonia> shunya_chakra: hassling in the #ubuntu-dev channel is not wise though
[17:41] <ikonia> it's not for that sort of discussion
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, That channel is wrong let me look closer
[17:41] <ikonia> its devel
[17:41] <genii> -devel not -dev
[17:41] <ikonia> but it's still not the right channel
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> cool, good advice on hassling
[17:41] <reisio> yay
[17:43] <shunya_chakra> ok I'll ask there :)
[17:43] <daftykins> ban in 3...2..
[17:43] <shunya_chakra> thanks!!!
[17:43] <ikonia> errr no
[17:43] <ikonia> please re-read what I just said
[17:43] <ikonia> shunya_chakra: it is not that sort of channel, don't ask there
[17:44] <shunya_chakra> ikonia, ok, then i'll not ask
[17:45] <jtane> PRIVMSG: it'd be great if i just had my own datacenter!
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest12575
[17:49] <ddr9> pls someone help me in this, i can only run ubuntu 14.04 in Recovery mode
[17:49] <daftykins> ddr9: please give more detail
[17:49] <ddr9> i have installed 14.04LTS (64bit) dual boot with Windows8
[17:50] <daftykins> ddr9: try and keep it on few lines :)
[17:51] <ddr9> when i try to load ubuntu, it shows two options: "Ubuntu,with LInux3.13.0-24-generic" and Linux in recovery mode
[17:51] <ddr9> the one not in recovery mode does not load, while the other loads to terminal screen
[17:52] <daftykins> ddr9: does the former stay as a black screen? what kind of graphics hardware do you have?
[17:52] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ddr9 give this a go
[17:53] <ddr9> the thing is, to make ubuntu work, i need to type in reinstall ubuntu desktop command, and reboot, after which though it loads, but then heating occurs
[17:54] <ddr9> i am trying that nomodeset thing, thanks for helping
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !away > timrc-afk
[17:59] <ddr9> daftykins: i have integrated intel graphic card driver and ati also
[18:02] <daftykins> ddr9: ah, AMD hybrid setup?
[18:02] <daftykins> ddr9: is that a laptop?
[18:03] <ddr9> daftykins: yes its a laptop
[18:03] <n00b_dust> daftykins, wouldn't that be an intel hybrid setup?
[18:03] <daftykins> n00b_dust: don't split hairs
[18:03] <daftykins> ddr9: ok, you might have BIOS settings to explicitly pick which one to use?
[18:04] <ddr9> daftykins: in win8, i don't need to, but yes there r options in BIOS
[18:04] <OerHeks> ddr9, disabled fastboot?
[18:04] <ddr9> yes while installing, and right now also fastboot is disabled
[18:04] <daftykins> ddr9: yes, this is no surprise for Windows. can you check what model of AMD it is?
[18:07] <bodom> Hi there. I can't stop mysqld, may anybody help me?
[18:07] <reisio> bodom: how'd you try?
[18:08] <bodom> reisio: /etc/init.d/mysql stop or kill <pid>; it keeps respawning
[18:08] <jirido> Hi! Does someone know if there is a program that extracts all hex color values in a file and display them as colors? preferably with option to change them with a color chooser of some cind?
[18:09] <ddr9> daftykins: AMD Radeon HD 8570M
[18:09] <daftykins> ddr9: did nomodeset help?
[18:10] <ddr9> daftykins: wait, i didn't try I'll restart and reply
[18:10] <reisio> bodom: sudo service mysql stop?
[18:10] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[18:11] <ddr9> daftykins: but the link that you gave is a very old one
[18:11] <bodom> reisio: that says "unknown job"
[18:12] <reisio> bodom: what init system are you using?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9: if it still applies,  what does age have to do with it
[18:12] <bodom> reisio: is there a choice? The default one, I suppose
[18:13] <reisio> uhuh...
[18:13] <reisio> bodom: what version of Ubuntu?
[18:13] <ddr9> ActionParsnip: but how do I change it? ubuntu is already installed on a separate drive
[18:13] <bodom> reisio: crappy upstart should be in charge, 14,04
[18:14] <reisio> k
[18:14] <daftykins> ddr9: age doesn't prevent nomodeset being relevant nor the method being correct
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9: change what?
[18:14] <reisio> maybe it's not called 'mysql' then
[18:14] <reisio> perhaps mysqld or something, ls /etc/init.d/ | grep -i my
[18:14] <daftykins> mysqld
[18:14] <pdo_fn14> Get annoyed when playing with lazarus package, I got blamed why fpc package warned myself arch incompatibility.
[18:14] <OerHeks> sudo service mysql stop should work fine, sudo service mysql status # what is running?
[18:14] <bodom> reisio: "service --status-all" says it is called mysql, but then it says "unknown job"
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Ddr9 : hold SHIFT at boot and press E to (e)dit the boot.  Remove the default options "quiet splash" and add "nomodeset" press ENTER to continue the boot
[18:15] <bodom> OerHeks: unknown job
[18:15] <bodom> even if i kill it, something keeps respawning it
[18:15] <OerHeks> bodom, check 'top' for zombie processes
[18:16] <ikonia> bodom: is it re-spawning with the same ID or a different ID
[18:16] <ikonia> bodom: what process are you killing, mysqld or the controlling mysqld-safe
[18:16] <bodom> OerHeks: no zombies
[18:17] <Burrito> Is setting swappiness supposed to have immediate effect? Or do I have to restart something? I set it via sysctl.
[18:17] <Burrito> (I set it to 100 for experimentation)
[18:17] <bodom> ikonia: different pid, i am killing mysqld, i have no mysqld-safe process
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Burrito: how did you set it?
[18:17] <ikonia> bodom: that sounds like it's not been started by the init system then
[18:17] <Burrito> ActionParsnip, sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=100
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : then it's active now
[18:18] <bodom> ikonia: unless something got broke during some upgrade, I am pretty sure I didn't customize it
[18:18] <ikonia> bodom: can you please pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep mysql"
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : could try: sudo sysctl -p
[18:19] <Burrito> ActionParsnip, I saw a small percentage spike in my swap usage, but RAM is still 77% (was 80%). Am I under the wrong impression if I say that it should be moving most of the stuff in RAM to SWAP?
[18:19] <bodom> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/V9QPae8U
[18:19] <theadmin> Burrito: You are. Swap should be used when you're really out of RAM
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : as I understand it,  yes
[18:19] <ikonia> bodom: talk me through how you would kill that process
[18:19] <Burrito> theadmin, hm, regardless of swappiness setting? :<
[18:20] <theadmin> Burrito: muh. Well, question is, why would you want to decrease RAM usage? RAM will free up as necessary
[18:20] <theadmin> But it would provide better performance than a hard drive
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : ram will be used for running applications
[18:20] <bodom> ikonia: kill -9 17351
[18:20] <bodom> ikonia: i now have a 18357 mysqld
[18:20] <theadmin> bodom: Err, you don't kill services, use "service mysql stop"
[18:20] <ikonia> bodom: is this physical or a virtual host
[18:21] <bodom> ikonia: physical
[18:21] <ikonia> bodom: what is the processs 18357
[18:21] <Burrito> theadmin, partly for experimentation of how swappiness works, and *that* is because a friend of mine is having trouble with stuff moving to swap slowly, leading to far worse performance of some applications (games) on Linux than on Windows, because of resource management differences (things moving from RAM to SWAP at the very, very last resort on Linux)
[18:22] <bodom> ikonia: it's the new mysql that respawned after i killed the old one
[18:22] <Burrito> Player- ^
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: that is mysql - the client, not th eserver
[18:22] <ikonia> server
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: look at the difference, mysqld - mysql, they are differnet binaries
[18:22] <ikonia> bodom: is process 8539 your shell ?
[18:23] <theadmin> Burrito: How much RAM is the machine having?
[18:23] <bodom> ikonia: i also had a client running, yes, but i can just "quit" it
[18:23] <ikonia> bodom: ok, so kill the mysqld process, then repaste ps -ef | grep mysql please
[18:23] <Burrito> theadmin, I have 4 GB of RAM, said friend has 3 GB
[18:23] <bodom> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/f45y0bEf
[18:24] <theadmin> Burrito: hm yeah, that's not a whole lot
[18:24] <Burrito> theadmin, I'd agree, but the performance on Windows appears way better for him. I'm interested in the differences in resource management which cause this.
[18:24] <Burrito> And whether it can be remedied
[18:24] <theadmin> Burrito: Are you sure it's not, say, the video driver?
[18:25] <ikonia> bodom: can you show me the output of uname -a please
[18:25] <bodom> ikonia: Linux <hostname> 3.13.0-27-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 18:06:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:25] <Burrito> theadmin, maybe. I actually had the same problem before I got an SSD, and simply managed by closing "fat" programs like Firefox. In his case, on Windows, he can leave programs like that running and they would be moved to the page file rather quickly - according to him.
[18:27] <Burrito> theadmin, also he had an indicator open - swap would receive zero usage until Linux completely runs out of RAM. This is *different* in my case because even with a swappiness of 5, my swap space is being used at 27% even though there is no (and was no) "last resort" situation
[18:27] <ikonia> bodom: most odd,
[18:27] <Burrito> theadmin, he is known as Player- in this channel, but is probably on a different device right now
[18:27] <theadmin> Burrito: Well, yes, swappiness will increase swap use, no doubt
[18:29] <bodom> ikonia: my bet is that something in the odd upstart keeps respawning mysql. Maybe some "security hook" that I never asked for.
[18:29] <ikonia> bodom: I don't believe thats the cast
[18:29] <ikonia> case
[18:30] <bodom> ikonia: I think I'll just warn all users and try a reboot. Thank you very much for your time anyway
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Burrito : try a lighter session like XFCE
[18:31] <ikonia> bodom: it's worth checking the init script to see if it "should" still spawn from mysqld_safe or not
[18:31] <ikonia> that would be a bit of info worth knowing
[18:32] <bodom> ikonia: test -x /usr/bin/mysqld_safe || exit 0
[18:32] <ikonia> bodom: ok, so thats interesting that it's not there on your system
[18:32] <bodom> ikonia: but i don't know if upstart really calls this script or a different one
[18:33] <bodom> ikonia: because i also have an /etc/init/mysql.conf
[18:34] <diddledan> mysql on trusty is started directly using /usr/sbin/mysqld
[18:35] <Player-> Hi, I'm here now.  Yeah Burrito descibed my situation, I guess no one has a solution?  I verified that the swap partition is declared properly in the fstab, so in short of throwing swappiness up to 100 I'm out of ideas.
[18:35] <bodom> diddledan: mhhh... by which script?
[18:35] <diddledan> bodom, upstart
[18:36] <diddledan> it looks like the init.d script hasn't been converted
[18:36] <bodom> diddledan: upstart is like a muddler kid to me, how can I check if the correct script is in place?
[18:37] <someHuman> Gah!
[18:37] <someHuman> I hate how Firefox performs now! -_-
[18:37] <someHuman> It's sketchy!
[18:37] <bodom> I still have /etc/init.d/mysql
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, same :( especially flash
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, but I, for one, welcome the new look :V
[18:38] <diddledan> bodom, yeah that script is incorrect
[18:38] <bodom> diddledan: what do you mean?
[18:38] <someHuman> Burrito: Yup, perhaps that's why it's sketchy. It's being renovated.
[18:38] <Burrito> someHuman, try out PaleMoon if you're upset with what the current version of Firefox is doing. I haven't tried it yet.
[18:39] <someHuman> I just got back to Firefox from Google Chrome so I have no idea what happened to Firefox lately.
[18:39] <bigred15> Firefox went cray-cray
[18:40] <bodom> I also have a different mysql server. I can confirm I can't stop mysql even there
[18:40] <aalp4> How does one change an ssh-server login password?
[18:40] <diddledan> bodom /etc/init.d scripts should all have been replaced with equivalents that do nothing by themselves but prompt the admin to use the `service` utility which will call upstart or fallback to the init.d script if there isn't an upstart job for it (to allow legacy uses)
[18:40] <aalp4> I know how to change the root password...
[18:41] <someHuman> bigred15: It seems.
[18:41] <diddledan> aalp4 the password you use for ssh is the same as you would use sat at the console
[18:42] <bigred15> someHuman: That said Chromium isn't much better with the 80 size font in the URL bar :\
[18:42] <aalp4> diddledan, i changed the password using sudo passwd at the console
[18:42] <aalp4> maybe i need to restart?
[18:43] <diddledan> aalp4 no, you don't need to restart
[18:43] <aalp4> damn, the password isn't changing for ssh
[18:43] <diddledan> aalp4 if you set a password using `sudo passwd` that will change the password for the user called "root" so you need to tell your ssh client to login as root
[18:44] <aalp4> what if i want it to login to my user?
[18:44] <aalp4> should i type in sudo passwd [username] diddledan?
[18:45] <diddledan> aalp4 then you need to use the password assigned to your user account
[18:45] <aalp4> to change my user account password then that is sudo passwd [username]?
[18:45] <diddledan> aalp4 instead of running `sudo passwd` then run `passwd`
[18:45] <aalp4> oh
[18:45] <aalp4> thanks
[18:46] <diddledan> aalp4 at a pinch `sudo passwd username` works but seems like pointless recursion
[18:46] <reisio> either would work
[18:46] <reisio> yeah :p
[18:46] <aalp4> doing sudo passwd seems to do nothing at all
[18:46] <aalp4> for example if i do sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <aalp4> it still asks me for my previous password
[18:47] <aalp4> and sudo apt-get update uses root password i thought
[18:47] <diddledan> sudo uses your user account's password
[18:47] <aalp4> oh, i didn't know that
[18:47] <diddledan> su requires the target user's (e.g. root) password
[18:47] <aalp4> aha
[18:48] <diddledan> sudo was invented after su and was designed specifically to allow delegation of privilege rather than "giving bob the password for alice's account"
[18:49] <reisio> even though that's how Ubuntu misuses it :)
[18:49] <diddledan> reisio, no, ubuntu uses it correctly
[18:50] <reisio> nope, it uses it in a fashion directly at odds with sudo's purpose as outlined on their site
[18:50] <reisio> also, it doesn't always ask for the password :)
[18:50] <diddledan> reisio, you don't need root's password to perform admin functions
[18:50] <reisio> diddledan: right, all admin functions
[18:50] <reisio> which is not what sudo was meant for
[18:51] <taithefox> Hi! Is anyone familiar with installing grub with lvm?
[18:51] <diddledan> reisio, from sudo's site: "Sudo (su "do") allows a system administrator to delegate authority to give certain users (or groups of users) the ability to run some (or all) commands as root or another user while providing an audit trail of the commands and their arguments."
[18:51] <phunyguy> taithefox, in Ubuntu, that should "just work"
[18:51] <diddledan> reisio, in this case you've delegated authority for admin access to your own user-level account
[18:52] <phunyguy> if not, you may have to trigger an initramfs rebuild
[18:52] <taithefox> It's more of a generic linux thing in this case. I'm a sysadmin at a university and the last sysadmin did a really weird setup on a mac with a ton of partitions
[18:52] <taithefox> anywhoo
[18:52] <reisio> awe that's sad, they must have changed their site to not confuse Ubuntu users visiting it :p
[18:52] <wN> taithefox: there is a #grub
[18:52] <taithefox> professor upgraded his fedora installation and it broke grub
[18:52] <taithefox> oh really?
[18:52] <reisio> anyways, archive.org reveals all :p
[18:52] <phunyguy> taithefox, ##linux may be better, as I said, it just works on ubuntu.
[18:52] <taithefox> I might try there
[18:52] <reisio> plus it's obviously the wrong way to use it, heh
[18:52] <phunyguy> or yes, #grub
[18:52] <taithefox> it doesn't _always_ work on ubuntu lmao
[18:53] <wN> it should always work on fedora too.
[18:53] <wN> xD
[18:53] <wN> and i dont think you can install grub to lvm. you still install it to your boot disk
[18:53] <phunyguy> taithefox, hence why I said you may have to trigger an initramfs rebuild to build in the lvm hooks.
[18:53] <phunyguy> that is the case on any distro, just typically ubuntu does a good job of that when you install lvm.
[18:54] <aalp4> diddledan: is there a way to install ubuntu base security updates over ssh logged into user account?
[18:54] <diddledan> aalp4 only if that user has the root password or enough privilege to use sudo
[18:54] <phunyguy> taithefox, also, there is #fedora
[18:55] <aalp4> sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't install the security updates diddledan :/
[18:55] <aalp4> it holds them back
[18:55] <wN> also, did you say this was on a mac??
[18:55] <diddledan> "held back" is a different problem
[18:56] <aalp4> yeah, i'm installing it via a gui now
[18:56] <reisio> diddledan: first para :p http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/readme.html
[18:56] <diddledan> you can install "held back" packages with apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:56] <aalp4> does upgrading the ubuntu base security updates count as a dist-upgrade diddledan?
[18:56] <diddledan> reisio, I fail to see why that's "at odds" with the way ubuntu uses it
[18:56] <reisio> Ubuntu gives all of root
[18:57] <reisio> not "as few privileges as possible"
[18:57] <diddledan> reisio, _somebody_ needs all of root
[18:57] <reisio> yup
[18:57] <phunyguy> diddledan, especially when root password is randomized.
[18:57] <rio_zenta> Hello
[18:57] <reisio> and we've always had su for that
[18:57] <phunyguy> also, growing more and more offtopic.
[18:57] <reisio> phunyguy: ha
[18:57] <reisio> rio_zenta: 'lo
[18:58] <rio_zenta> Under a wubi install, you get a menu before the grub menu that allows you to choose either windows or ubuntu, how do I customize this?
[18:58] <aalp4> diddledan i'm on 13.10, and would like to update ubuntu-base, but not  switch to 14.04, is there a way to do that?
[18:58] <diddledan> rio_zenta that's windows' own bootloader
[18:58] <phunyguy> rio_zenta, depends on what you want to customize
[18:59] <rio_zenta> phunyguy: I just want to change the order from: Windows, Ubuntu to: Ubuntu, Windows. Basically, I want ubuntu first, so that it can boot into it without me needing to select it.
[18:59] <diddledan> aalp4 `apt-get upgrade` or `apt-get dist-upgrade` won't change which release of ubuntu you have installed unless you mess with the sources.list
[18:59] <phunyguy> rio_zenta, if what diddledan is saying is true, you need to edit boot.ini on the windows drive
[18:59] <reisio> rio_zenta: download easybcd
[19:00] <phunyguy> (I think it's called boot.ini)
[19:00] <rio_zenta> reisio, download that in windows or ubuntu?
[19:00] <aalp4> oh that's good to know diddledan thanks, i guess i should always include a dist-upgrade with an  apt-get upgrade to stay secure
[19:00] <diddledan> phunyguy, it used to be in xp's time. vista came up with the "bcd" which is an evil thing
[19:00] <phunyguy> oh even better, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff543428%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[19:01] <aalp4> it's weird that i never get "held-back" packages on my 14.04 machine just using apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <rio_zenta> diddledan, the PC I'm using has windows XP
[19:01] <reisio> rio_zenta: windows
[19:01] <diddledan> >.<
[19:01] <phunyguy> aalp4, with that said, apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade don't differentiate between security and normal updates... the only way to only install security updates afaik is to use the automatic updates feature.
[19:02] <aalp4> phunyguy: how do i do that on a cli via ssh?
 rio_zenta : http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/enterprise/end-of-support.aspx </troll>
[19:03] <rio_zenta> diddledan: :-/
[19:03] <phunyguy> aalp4, you can't afaik
[19:03] <phunyguy> but I usually enable automatic security updates to happen every day without a reboot.
[19:03] <aalp4> so i can't stay secure using ssh :( phunyguy
[19:04] <phunyguy> let me try to remember the name of the package that handles the automatic updates
[19:04] <aalp4> oh, i should enable auto-updates then
[19:04] <diddledan> aalp4, dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades OR apt-get install unattended-upgrades
[19:04] <phunyguy> unattended-upgrades, there it is
[19:04] <aalp4> awesome!
[19:04] <aalp4> i wonder why that command isn't well known?
[19:04] <phunyguy> there are config files with excellent documentation within, and it runs via cron every day.
[19:04] <phunyguy> you just tell it the interval of days to install, etc
[19:05] <diddledan> aalp4, if the first one says the package isn't installed then run the second
[19:05] <aalp4> ok
[19:05] <diddledan> phunyguy, I'd forgotten the name of it too, but I have plenty of installs with it enabled so I just ssh'd into one of those (ok, I was already ssh'd into it)
[19:08] <Elouise> Hai
[19:08] <Elouise> Can someone help me? XD
[19:08] <phunyguy> hello
[19:08] <phunyguy> We need to know what you need help with....
[19:08] <reisio> Elouise: done
[19:08] <aalp4> diddledan, if I use, "dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades and apt-get install unattended-upgrades", should i never have to use dist-upgrade?
[19:08] <Elouise> Okay so. This happened like 4 times now.
[19:09] <Elouise> and I had to re-download Ubuntu just to make my WiFi connection work.
[19:09] <phunyguy> aalp4, you can configure it as such.
[19:09] <syeekick>  i set the hotkey in the bottom left part of my screen to spread all windows, its nifty as popsicles. I was wondering if there is a way to leave it in that format as they tile really well. i Don't want it to click and focus i want ti to stay as it is
[19:09] <Elouise> Yesterday,  I was in a hotel.. My WiFi wasn't working. Took my like 2 hours to figure out how to fix it.
[19:09] <syeekick> its quite hard to explain what i want done
[19:09] <Elouise> Now I just got home, WiFi isn't working again.
[19:09] <Elouise> I forgot how to fix it.
[19:09] <Elouise> :[
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, careful with the enter key or unopaste will mute you
[19:10] <Elouise> Sorry.
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, any idea what wifi hardware you have?
[19:10] <Elouise> So do you want me to say those in just 1 line?
[19:10] <aalp4> phunyguy because right now my plan to keep my system updated via ssh is 1. apt-get update 2. apt-get upgrade 3. dist-upgrade 4. dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades, and if needed 5. dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades
[19:10] <aalp4> is this the correct way?
[19:10] <phunyguy> Elouise, yeah just say as much as you can in one line.
[19:11] <phunyguy> aalp4, I think you are getting confused as to what the unattended-upgrade commands are
[19:11] <Elouise> What do you mean by "WiFi hardware?"
[19:11] <phunyguy> Elouise, make and model?
[19:11] <Elouise> model of my connection?
[19:11] <aalp4> sorry
[19:11] <phunyguy> aalp4, all those last commands do is install the package that performs the upgrades or configures it.
[19:11] <aalp4> need  to reword that
[19:12] <phunyguy> Elouise, no, what the actual hardware model is... Intel.. Broadcom... etc
[19:12] <rio_zenta> It's most likely a broadcom
[19:12] <rio_zenta> somebody gave a nice command yesterday to check for your hardware in terminal. I can't recall it.
[19:12] <phunyguy> Elouise, open a terminal and type "lspci | grep Wireless" and see if anything pops up
[19:13] <rio_zenta> that's the one phunyguy
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> Elouise: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will be shown
[19:13] <Elouise> Kk
[19:13] <aalp4> phunyguy, is there a series of commands i can use without fail every time to update my system via cli ssh
[19:13] <aalp4> if so in what order?
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : as you type your password you will get no feedback
[19:13] <phunyguy> aalp4, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will do it
[19:13] <Actionparsnip> aalp4: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <aalp4> ok so there's reallly no need for dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades OR apt-get install unattended-upgrades?
[19:14] <phunyguy> but if you want to automate it, use the unattended-upgrade software to do it.
[19:14] <Elouise> it says
[19:14] <phunyguy> aalp4, again, those commands just install the service that performs the updates automatically
[19:14] <Elouise> lshw: command nto found
[19:14] <aalp4> ohhh
[19:14] <aalp4> i misunderstood
[19:14] <aalp4> i see
[19:14] <phunyguy> I know :)
[19:14] <aalp4> got it :)
[19:14] <Elouise> not found*
[19:15] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : if you run: cat /etc/issue ,what is output?
[19:15] <Elouise> No such file/directory
[19:15] <phunyguy> ...are you on Ubuntu?
[19:15] <Elouise> Yes
[19:15] <diddledan> o_O
[19:15] <Elouise> o
[19:15] <Elouise> there it is
[19:16] <Elouise> I got um. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise did you put a space between the word "cat" and "/etc/issue"
[19:16] <Elouise> Mhm
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise spaces are important
[19:16] <Elouise> I got um. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[19:16] <aalp4> thanks all!
[19:16] <phunyguy> aalp4, cheers
[19:16] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : ok run: sudo lshw -C network
[19:17] <Elouise> it says
[19:17] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : there is a space afer the word "sudo" a space after "lshq" and one after "-C"
[19:17] <Elouise> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:18] <phunyguy> sudo apt-get install lshw
[19:18] <Elouise> Well I dont have wifi connection
[19:18] <Elouise> I mean I do
[19:18] <phunyguy> doh.
[19:18] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : its LSHW in lower case. Are you running ISHW ?
[19:18] <phunyguy> do you have a plug to hardwire?
[19:18] <Elouise> but it won't just work on this laptop.
[19:18] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, it may not be installed by default, it wasn't on the box I am on
[19:19] <Elouise> I have a plug, but I'm using an acer chromebook c720
[19:19] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy: lshw is default installed in Ubuntu
[19:19] <Elouise> if I do iwconfig would that help?
[19:19] <diddledan> phunyguy, it's there on a server I run which was installed from minimal
[19:19] <rio_zenta> I've had headaches with Acer too.
[19:19] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : that wont help as ot won't tell you the wifi chip
[19:20] <Elouise> wifi chip
[19:20] <Elouise> hmm
[19:20] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : can you get a wired connection and run updates?
[19:20] <Elouise> nope :[
[19:20] <phunyguy> Elouise, lspci will show it
[19:21] <Elouise> there
[19:21] <phunyguy> but that lists all hardware
[19:21] <OerHeks> Elouise, what machine is this, Surface 2?
[19:21] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : ok ill do the command in upper case and when I write [space] hit spacebar, don't type it
[19:21] <Elouise> Okay.
[19:22] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : SUDO [space] LSHW [space] -C [space] NETWORK
[19:23] <Actionparsnip> Elouise : the line next to the C is a minus sign or hyphen
[19:23] <Elouise> sudo: lshw: command not found
[19:24] <Actionparsnip> Can someone please give me the output of: which lshw
[19:24] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, it is missing because it is not installed by default... I just said that
[19:24] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy: it is.  I've used ot in trusty...
[19:24] <phunyguy> I just had to install it...
[19:24] <Elouise> is it the Network Controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[19:25] <phunyguy> that's it
[19:25] <Elouise> That's it?
[19:25] <phunyguy> that's the output we are looking for
[19:25] <Elouise> Alright lol
[19:25] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : funny how Elouise just ran it then huh...
[19:25] <Elouise> Actionparsnip:
[19:25] <Elouise> Actually phuny told me to do a command, which showed lots of hardwares
[19:25] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : on a default install with no web access post install
[19:26] <Elouise> and obv, I saw "Network Controller," so I thought it might be the one.
[19:26] <phunyguy> atheros is usually really good :(   Is there a Fn key to switch it off and on?
[19:26] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : how is that possible
[19:26] <phunyguy> Actionparsnip, no idea.  Anyway, we got what we needed
[19:26] <Elouise> "lspci."
[19:26] <phunyguy> Elouise, some laptops have keys to turn antenna off and on, does yours?
[19:26] <Elouise> Nope
[19:26] <Actionparsnip> Phunyguy : its possible because its default installed using the install CD
[19:27] <phunyguy> hrrmmm...
[19:27] <phunyguy> Elouise, a restart doesn't fix it I take it?
[19:27] <Actionparsnip> As is evident
[19:27] <Elouise> Yeah I rebooted it so many times, researched on google, etc..
[19:28] <phunyguy> Elouise, hang tight for a second
[19:28] <zh1> Elouise, model brand lappie
[19:28] <Elouise> Acer Chromebook C720
[19:29] <murosai> does anyone have experience using xrandr to control video output?
[19:29] <murosai> im trying to send output to my tv that has bigger resolution than laptop
[19:30] <melle> whats up here?
[19:32] <phunyguy> yeah I found an image of the keyboard, sure enough, there is no wifi button
[19:32] <Elouise> :s
[19:33] <phunyguy> Elouise, did you possibly disable wireless by accident in the menu that is associated with the network icon in panel?
[19:33] <Elouise> What does that mean
[19:34] <phunyguy> Elouise, the icon you usually click on to connect to a wireless network, there are options in there to disable wireless, and also disable networking completely.
[19:34] <Elouise> sec
[19:34] <phunyguy> It could be disabled there
[19:34] <zh1> Elouise, what os does it run and do you have its serial number
[19:35] <Elouise> phuang:
[19:35] <Elouise> phunyguy:
[19:35] <Elouise> It's enabled.
[19:36] <phunyguy> you just can't see any networks?
[19:36] <Elouise> I'm connected to wifi.
[19:36] <Elouise> but no access.
[19:36] <phunyguy> err...
[19:36] <phunyguy> so it is connected, just nothing works....
[19:37] <Elouise> Yeah
[19:37] <phunyguy> can you pastebin the output of "route -n" please?
[19:38] <Elouise> Um
[19:38] <phunyguy> also include the contents of the ifconfig command too please
[19:38] <phunyguy> errr no wifi. ><
[19:38]  * phunyguy grumbles.
[19:38] <Elouise> Lol
[19:38] <zh1> ubuntu?
[19:38] <phunyguy> so let's do this a different way
[19:39] <phunyguy> Elouise, do you have a line that starts with <IP_ADDRESS> on the route -n command?
[19:39] <Elouise> I made this work last night when I was in my hotel room
[19:39] <Elouise> Yes
[19:39] <zh1> lucky strike
[19:39] <rio_zenta> is booting into a nested file system not possible?
[19:39] <Elouise> Whenever I go to different places and access WiFi, it won't just work T_T
[19:39] <phunyguy> ok, now the next set of numbers to the right of that, please try to ping that address
[19:40] <Elouise> can I pm
[19:40] <rio_zenta> wait, my question is wrong
[19:40] <phunyguy> here is fine, so others can chime in.  You don't have to say the address
[19:40] <rio_zenta> I mean, is making the bootloader default to a nested file system not possible?
[19:40] <Elouise> K so
[19:40] <phunyguy> type "ping" and then the address under the "gateway" field
[19:41] <phunyguy> let me know if you get replies
[19:41] <Elouise> o ic
[19:42] <Mathcubes> Hey can anyone help with this issure.
[19:42] <Elouise> Ping (adress) 58(64) bytes of data
[19:42] <Mathcubes> Hey can anyone help me?
[19:42] <phunyguy> Elouise, no responses?
[19:42] <Elouise> I got that response.
[19:42] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, we don't know until you ask the real question
[19:43] <rio_zenta> Mathcubes: Don't ask to ask. Just ask
[19:43] <phunyguy> Elouise, ok, ctrl-c
[19:43] <Mathcubes> @phunyguy yea I forgot to inculde my issure.
[19:43] <spy6> can please anybody tell me the default twitter client on 14.04 (trusty)?
[19:44] <phunyguy> spy6, I don't think there is one
[19:44] <phunyguy> not by default anyway
[19:44] <spy6> phunyguy: there is no twitter client installed on trusty?
[19:44] <phunyguy> Elouise, I am not sure at this point.  Can you boot to a LiveCD and see if it works there?
[19:44] <Elouise> Livecd?
[19:44] <phunyguy> spy6, not that I am aware of
[19:44] <spy6> (on stock ubuntu 14.04)
[19:44] <phunyguy> Elouise, yes, what you use to install Ubuntu
[19:45] <Elouise> I did the code thing
[19:45] <spy6> hmmmm
[19:45] <Elouise> I didn't use no cds lol
[19:45] <phunyguy> spy6, it used to be gwibber, but that project died
[19:45] <phunyguy> Elouise, USB stick?
[19:45] <Mathcubes> Well this may be offtopic but Few days ago I got a virus on my WIndows parition and it delected ctrutical files.  And so, I delected the partition,  Now I want to reinstall Windows but it is saying that Missing Drivers. I use GRUB on the MBR, and I have a Dell Inspiron R17 n7110 laptop.
[19:46] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:46] <Elouise> Nope :S
[19:46] <Mathcubes> Well I use Ubuntu... I used GRUB as the MBR.  and I was reading that might be the problem.
[19:46] <phunyguy> Elouise, how did you install Ubuntu?
[19:47] <phunyguy> Mathcubes, drivers missing from Windows has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:47] <Elouise> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/764181-how-to-install-linux-on-an-acer-c720-chromebook
[19:48] <phunyguy> yikes.
[19:48] <phunyguy> ok, that makes sense then.
[19:48] <Elouise> What happened
[19:48] <phunyguy> It makes sense that you didn't use a USB stick to install.  But a LiveUSB may work now
[19:49] <phunyguy> but probably not worth the effort for this issue.
[19:50] <phunyguy> I have to go to a meeting
[19:50] <phunyguy> bbiab
[19:50] <Elouise> Aw
[19:50] <Elouise> Well thanks for helping ;)
[19:50] <thomas__> hi
[19:50] <demonoid_com> hello to all
[19:51] <demonoid_com> i need little help
[19:51] <demonoid_com> about wireshark
[19:51] <demonoid_com> :)
[19:51] <thomas__> we have an issue with an external screen. 1920x1080 is the native resolution. but it does not fill the screen.
[19:51] <thomas__> vga connected
[19:51] <demonoid_com> i try to compile wireshark and have this error
[19:51] <thomas__> i tried xrandr and set the resolution to 1920...
[19:51] <demonoid_com> configure: error: Neither Qt nor GTK+ 2.12.0 or later are available, so Wireshark can't be compiled
[19:52] <harmonics> Does the ubuntu page require ssl?
[19:53] <daftykins> harmonics: define ubuntu page
[19:53] <Unknown> hey all
[19:54] <rio_zenta> Success, I've made ubuntu wubi the default bootloader in windows.
[19:54] <rio_zenta> Thanks diddledan, phunyguy
[19:54] <daftykins> ugh WUBI? were you not advised against that?
[19:55] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I have successfully installed ubuntu server through wubi and also successfully made it the default boot, so now I can work with it without a screen or keyboard
[19:55] <daftykins> i see, just note that i think WUBI is unsupported so if you get any issues you can't ask for help
[19:56] <rio_zenta> daftykins: I think it might still be supported, because wubi exists in 12.04 LTS
[19:56] <Unknown> Question trying to set-up a cups client on 14.04 desktop, the only guides I find mention cups-client and a simply client.conf and sometimes install a2ps as well, is this still the way to go to achieve what I'm trying to do?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> rio_zenta: "Supported" or not, I highly recommend against using it.
[19:56] <reisio> rio_zenta: gj
[19:57] <reisio> rio_zenta: how'd you manage it?
[19:57] <rio_zenta> Jordan_U: It is for a home-server to run small tests on. Nothing major or persistent.
[19:57] <thomas__> any tips for my monitor problem?
[19:57] <reisio> thomas__: fix it
[19:57] <thomas__> reisio, fix what?
[19:57] <Reptilia> Can i somehow see my HDD make and model, using the terminal?
[19:57] <reisio> thomas__: monitor issue
[19:57] <rio_zenta> reisio: I worked backwards from ubuntu12.04 by stripping it down with tasksel and installing ubuntu server in it's place.
[19:58] <Unknown> The reason I ask is I've tried multiple variations and it just doesnt seem to work (although it works fine on multiple 12.04 to the same cups server)
[19:58] <reisio> Reptilia: dmesg, dmidecode, lshw
[19:58] <harmonics> Unknown what is your mailing address to send a copy of the ubuntu cdt.
[19:58] <thomas__> reisio, i want to. but how?
[19:58] <reisio> rio_zenta: just to fix the menu?
[19:58] <reisio> thomas__: what's the problem?
[19:58] <thomas__> reisio, thank you. 1920x1080 won't fill the whole screen. there are borders left and right.
[19:58] <Unknown> harmonics: I have plenty of burnt iso's of ubuntu already, thanks
[19:59] <thomas__> and its not sharp
[19:59] <rio_zenta> reisio: which menu? oh you mean the bootloader, that was pretty simple. Just needed to modify the boot.ini file.
[19:59] <harmonics> Reptilia what is the ip and protocal to look for the hd make and model?
[19:59] <reisio> ah
[19:59] <Reptilia> What
[19:59] <spy6> okay ... which twitter client could i install on 14.04 to have it integrated with indicator menu?
[20:02] <rio_zenta> spy6 you want twitter troubling you the whole day on your desktop?
[20:03] <thomas__> reisio, on the left and right there are about 5cm missing.
[20:03] <thomas__> its not an issue with monitor settings
[20:03] <spy6> rio_zenta: just popup on fav/mention
[20:04] <rio_zenta> spy6, I've never come across desktop twitter clients. I recommend you look in the software centre.
[20:04] <rio_zenta> !software
[20:04] <rio_zenta> aah wrong one.
[20:04] <rio_zenta> !Packages | spy6
[20:04] <Unknown> Do I have to be authenticated to nickserv to talk in here, or are people seeing this?
[20:04] <spy6> rio_zenta: indeed, I'm able to do a "aptitude search twitter" ;)
[20:04] <reisio> Unknown: only I can see it
[20:04] <Unknown> ;) ty
[20:04] <reisio> :p
[20:04] <rio_zenta> Unknown we see you. the room would tell you otherwise.
[20:05] <Unknown> thats what I thought but i'm using a webbased java applet so wasnt sure
[20:05] <spy6> ubottu: indeed, I know searching a package and how does it work, I'm just debian developer
[20:05] <spy6> ubottu: ah, many thanks for the hint :P
[20:06] <genii> spy6: apt-cache search produces a result of package mikutter
[20:06] <genii> !info mikutter
[20:06] <spy6> just heading to packages.ubuntu.com/mikutter :)
[20:07] <spy6> no screenshot available :(
[20:08] <spy6> ah ... some kind of tweetdeck
[20:08] <rio_zenta> i recall hootsuite having an ubuntu desktop app, but it was buggy at best.
[20:16] <EleanorEllis> Hi. Can anyone suggest an application to defragment an NTFS partition please?
[20:16] <tomatopotato> hi all, is there a known issue with 14.04 and wget?
[20:16] <spy6> ah ... installing "friends" seems sufficiant
[20:17] <tomatopotato> everytime i download a file it seems to have a different size or the script i am using is fucked up, not sure though
[20:17] <Tatuus> Xubuntu freezes after installing Chromium, starting it.... Is this a known issue? Tried few HD's already and it's always the same on that laptop.
[20:18] <borovaka> Tatuus: do you tried with chrome?
[20:18] <Tatuus> no, i don't want that
[20:20] <borovaka> Tatuus: try beta ppa
[20:20] <borovaka> Tatuus: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta
[20:21] <Tatuus> borovaka: ok, i'll try. thanks
[20:23] <lucido> I'm trying to install the native version of unreal tournament (the first)' but the libgtk1.2 library is missing
[20:23] <lucido> how can I install old stuff like that?
[20:23] <Nilkanth> who's a girl here
[20:24] <ikonia> why ?
[20:24] <Nilkanth> lol
[20:24] <ikonia> ?
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I searching 1 for my irc server xD
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I am*
[20:24] <ikonia> ok, well, this isn't a dating channel
[20:24] <ikonia> so please don't ask
[20:24] <Nilkanth> I am nt asking for a date!
[20:25] <lucido> balls or gtfo
[20:25] <ikonia> why do you want to find a women ?
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I ama sking to join my server and I am 15 years old
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I have only boys in my channel
[20:25] <ikonia> lucido: please - that language is not welcome
[20:25] <lucido> ikonia, geez sorry
[20:25] <ikonia> Nilkanth: this is not a recruitment channel
[20:25] <Nilkanth> brbrb
[20:25] <Nilkanth> I am just asking
[20:25] <ikonia> Nilkanth: please don't
[20:25] <Nilkanth> so don't ask me more question
[20:26] <Nilkanth> Okey .....]
[20:26] <Nilkanth> loser ikonia xD
[20:27] <Sarseo> I've got a pink line running down the leftmost part of my 2nd monitor.  How do I remove that?
[20:27] <mlc> quit
[20:29] <mlc> hi all
[20:30] <tomatopotato> why is the file larger then on the server when i download with wget? is there a bug with wget in 14.04 please let me know
[20:31] <ikonia> no bug known
[20:32] <tomatopotato> the wierdest part is that the md5sum is the same
[20:33] <OerHeks> mbit-mbyte issue?
[20:33] <tomatopotato> the file is like 2808120 when its downloaded with wget but it should be 2319400
[20:33] <tomatopotato> OerHeks: sorry im a newb, and im not sure how i should fix that
[20:35] <jost> What is wrong with this snippet in bash? http://dpaste.com/2YH78EA/
[20:35] <jost> The error message is: "line 20: [start: command not found"
[20:36] <jost> Even if I remove the interpolated part, it throws this error
[20:38] <rio_zenta> Tatuus: It doesn't freeze for me.
[20:38] <phunyguy> jost, escape the brackets
[20:40] <gr33n7007h> jost, works for me
[20:40] <phunyguy> jost, the brackets are used in bash, so it confuses it.  You either have to use single quotes on that line, which breaks the ${0##*/} part, or escape the brackets. (\[ blah blah \])
[20:40] <phunyguy> jost, oh wait, what is your shebang?
[20:41] <phunyguy> jost, aka the very first line of the script
[20:41] <jost> phuang#!/usr/bin/env bash
[20:41] <jost> #!/usr/bin/env bash
[20:44] <phunyguy> that seems OK, also that script snippet works for me as well
[20:45] <jost> phunyguy: weird, I get many errors (on a 14.04 server)
[20:45] <gr33n7007h> jost whats your bash version "bash --version"
[20:45] <jost> GNU bash, version 4.3.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[20:45] <phunyguy> ahh I am on 4.2.45
[20:45] <phunyguy> (Gentoo)
[20:46] <jost> that makes that much difference?
[20:46] <phunyguy> it may
[20:46] <gr33n7007h> I'm on 4.2.37 work on mine
[20:46] <phunyguy> there is a #bash channel
[20:46] <phunyguy> you may get better help there for this
[20:47] <jost> the bash 4.3 release notes should also help
[20:47] <Blizzz> did someone else has had trouble installing ejabberd on 14.04? upon installtion (purged and installed couple times meanwhile)  the service fails to start, ejabberctl always ends with "Failed RPC connection to the node ejabberd@HOST: nodedown"
[20:47] <ikonia> Blizzz: no rpc listening or firewall,
[20:48] <Reptilia> Is there any Linux utility that will test everything in my PC, including the motherboard, and tell me if something is malfunctioning? Thanks in advance.
[20:48] <ikonia> Reptilia: not really
[20:48] <bekks> Reptilia: No, there is no such tool.
[20:48] <Blizzz> ikonia: no firewall configured
[20:48] <ikonia> Reptilia: have you any reason to think there is a problem ?
[20:48] <_2_ellieafenixx> hey :D
[20:49] <ikonia> Blizzz: what do you mean no firewall configured, everything default, or you've totally disabled the firewall manually
[20:49] <Reptilia> ikonia:Yes
[20:49] <ikonia> Reptilia: what do you think is broken and why ?
[20:49] <Blizzz> ikonia: yes, default
[20:49] <ikonia> Blizzz: then there is a firewall configured, and it is blocking rpc
[20:50] <reisio> Reptilia: actually there is
[20:50] <Tatuus> borovaka: the problem with that laptop was actually related to bad memory chip, replaced it and also Chromium works swell. Weird i guess, but that's it.
[20:50] <reisio> you can see it if you turn on your webcam and look at the bits on your face
[20:50] <reisio> the round ones
[20:50] <reisio> your eyes
[20:50] <reisio> problems don't exist until they do
[20:50] <Reptilia> ikonia:LCD screen showing flickering, horizontal, parallel lines, made every possible combination of tests and it turns out that it is a PC thing, graphics card is new, bought 2 days ago, so the Motherboard remains the only thing that could be malfunctioning.
[20:51] <Reptilia> ikonia:And i need a utility or something similar which will run some tests
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: just because the graphics card is new doesn't mean it's not broken
[20:51] <Tatuus> rio_zenta: the problem with that laptop was actually related to bad memory chip, replaced it and also Chromium works swell. Weird i guess, but that's it.
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: it also doesn't mean it's a hardware problems, software drivers could also be the issue
[20:51] <ikonia> Reptilia: have you tested this in another OS ?
[20:52] <bekks> Reptilia: And it doesnt mean it is plulgged in correctly, it doesnt mean cables are connected properly, it doesnt mean connectors are clean, etc.
[20:52] <kylerain> hello, i have a lacie cloudbox and some custom firmware with no docs or support. I am wondering if I can replace it with ubuntu server? it is armv5 architecture.
[20:53] <ikonia> kylerain: I'd suggest staying clear of ubuntu on arm
[20:53] <kylerain> bummer, too heavy?
[20:53] <kylerain> lots of bugs?
[20:53] <ikonia> no, just a fix of support, eg: no arm 7 support, community only builds etc etc
[20:53] <trinode> hey, if you're running 14.04 is there going to be a kernel update?
[20:54] <ikonia> trinode: there will be kernel updates, yes
[20:54] <hje841> how do I us a DBT-122 bluetooth dongle to get audio to my headset in 12.04?
[20:55] <trinode> ikonia: is there a repo with fully ubuntuized kernels that are WIP? I ask because I need 3.14 for my wireless card, but on 3.14 mainline my laptop's battery litterally halfs.
[20:55] <Reptilia> ikonia:This happened with the previous graphics card too, but the lines were with a bigger magnitude, especially have turned on a graphics-intensive app/game. The graphics card is tested on another PC, and it is okay, so i doubt it's a g.c. issue. The same happens in Ubuntu / Windows 7.
[20:55] <ikonia> trinode: wip ?
[20:56] <trinode> ikonia: work in progress, even if they're not "LTS production ready"
[20:56] <gr33n7007h> hje841, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[20:56] <ikonia> trinode: nope
[20:56] <Reptilia> bekks:It is plugged in correctly, cables are inserted correctly, connectors are cleaned with alcohol, dust removed from PCI slots and cleaned with alcohol.
[21:00] <hje841> gr33n7007h, thanks, but I did that already, but the bluetooth device doesn't show up as an audio device
[21:01] <gr33n7007h> hje841, what is it showing up as?
[21:02] <hje841> right now, nothing. lsusb doesn't show it. and dmesg says 'unable to enumerate USB device'
[21:03] <hje841> I tried uncommenting 'AutoConnect=true' in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf but nothing
[21:03] <phunyguy> trinode, after some time, there will be newer kernels made available to the LTS release when they are released with a newer version of Ubuntu, but that is a ways out.
[21:04] <phunyguy> it is called the "LTS Hardware Enablement Stack"
[21:04] <phunyguy> But I wouldn't expect to see any of those released for 14.04 for another 6-9 months.
[21:04] <gr33n7007h> hje841, I'm not that well up on bluetooth sorry I can't help further
[21:05] <hje841> gr33n7007h, it's okay, thanks. I might as well upgrade to 14.04 this weekend..
[21:05] <saban> how to copy folder A with files over folder B but dont override files that are alrady in folder B?
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> hje841, How you upgrading to reinstall?
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> s/to/total/
[21:07] <phunyguy> saban, man cp... also.. cp with the -n option does what you want
[21:07] <phunyguy> "--no-clobber"
[21:07] <saban> tnx
[21:07] <hje841> gr33n7007h, from 12.04 to 14.04.. I usually just delete the partition.. and install
[21:07] <phunyguy> 'welcome.
[21:07] <gr33n7007h> hje841, ok cool :)
[21:07] <rosaage> I need to keep a program running after closing ssh, and installed screen, but i remember i had something before where i only needed to connect then came to the same session as I used last time it also had some kind of toolbar on the bottom
[21:08] <rosaage> How can i get this again?
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> saban: also rsync can do a range of things
[21:08] <medwards> hey folks, looking for some helping installing nvidia drivers
[21:08] <hje841> gr33n7007h, so biggest concern will be backing up my files as I have no /home partition
[21:08] <medwards> I've installed both the normal packages and the swat-x-team packages
[21:09] <medwards> but X doesn't use the driver (even though I can modprobe it)
[21:09] <ikonia> medwards: sounds like you're screwed then
[21:09] <ikonia> as installing a conflicting PPA = not good
[21:09] <gr33n7007h> hje841, you all on /
[21:09] <medwards> hrm
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> rosaage: that sounds like it could be byobu
[21:09] <medwards> OK I can go through the process of purging it and starting over
[21:09] <ikonia> modprobing the driver doesn't actually make xorg use it, you need to configure X to use it, and if it's not loading on it's own (you shouldn't need to modprobe it) you may have a more serious problem
[21:10] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I have a data partition seperately, but yeah.. everything is on /
[21:10] <medwards> ikonia: yeah thats where I'm at
[21:10] <medwards> there is an xorg folder full of its drivers
[21:10] <SchrodingersScat> rosaage: byobu is like a layer on top of screen to make screen a little more..intuitive? to new users?
[21:10] <medwards> and there is nothing for nvidia in it
[21:10] <medwards> which seems like the root cause
[21:10] <ikonia> medwards: no
[21:10] <gr33n7007h> hje841, always good practice to have /home ;)
[21:10] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I know :)
[21:10] <saban> cp -nR did the work. tnx
[21:11] <ikonia> medwards: a.) it should load the module at boot up on it's own b.) you need an xorg.conf or an nvidia modular component.conf to force it to use the "nvidia" driver in xorg
[21:11] <rosaage> Thanks! Looks like what i used last time will try it
[21:11] <hje841> gr33n7007h, too lazy to make one
[21:11] <medwards> a) nvidia is in lsmod, I'm assuming from boot time
[21:11] <gr33n7007h> hje841, :p
[21:11] <medwards> b) when I try to generate an xorg.conf using X -configure I get an error about how devices and screens don't match up
[21:11] <ikonia> medwards: if it's in at boot - why are you modprobing it ?
[21:12] <fpmvu> hello
[21:12] <medwards> ikonia: to prove to myself I can, just instinct
[21:12] <fpmvu> I would like to ask for your help
[21:12] <hje841> gr33n7007h, I'll switch to an SSD with the new install, so.. nothing to worry about there
[21:12] <ikonia> medwards: you can't - it's already loaded
[21:12] <ikonia> medwards: so I'm concerned why you think you can
[21:12] <phunyguy> fpmvu, so ask your real question. :)
[21:12] <fpmvu> I created a new user and I cannot run updates with that new user
[21:12] <gr33n7007h> hje841, true, and ton faster
[21:12] <cane99> Anyone going to the TexasLinuxFest
[21:13] <fpmvu> I can sudo in the text terminal (ctrl-alt-f1) but can't in the graphical terminal
[21:13] <phunyguy> fpmvu, then make them an admin in the user add panel
[21:13] <medwards> ikonia: lets chalk it up to poor thinking. I can verify that nvidia was in lsmod after booting with no other commands
[21:13] <fpmvu> I am puzzled
[21:13] <phunyguy> oh
[21:13] <hje841> gr33n7007h, yup
[21:13] <phunyguy> fpmvu, did you log out and back in after adding sudo access?
[21:13] <fpmvu> yes
[21:13] <fpmvu> I even restarted my computer after relogging
[21:14] <MagicSpud> hello I am using compiz and cairo dock and I would like to get rid of the top-panel...I used to have three and removing the other two was quite simple: alt+start right click remove panel but the last...is not willing to disappear. that option is not allowed
[21:14] <fpmvu> somehow I don't see the admin rights in the gui
[21:14] <phunyguy> fpmvu, type "groups" at the terminal
[21:14] <phunyguy> tell me if sudo is there
[21:14] <phunyguy> (or wheel, can't remember)
[21:14] <fpmvu> it's sudo and it's there
[21:14] <rosaage> SchrodingersScat: byobu with Byobu-enable on is what i needed Thanks
[21:14] <fpmvu> I added it already
[21:15] <phunyguy> fpmvu, what error are you getting?
[21:15] <clino> Hello
[21:15] <fpmvu> it doesn't accept my pwd
[21:15] <fpmvu> should I try to change it?
[21:16] <phunyguy> yes, you should reset it
[21:16] <fpmvu> 'kay, I'll see if it works
[21:16] <clino> I need to install a package which is part of a PPA which doesnt have an entry for the latest trusty version. How can i Use the old saucy PPA to get that package ?
[21:16] <ikonia> clino: you can't
[21:16] <spouky> hello  i  speak  french
[21:16] <fpmvu> interesting, even passwd refuses the pwd
[21:17] <spouky> are   uou  dead  ?
[21:17] <spouky> are   you,  dead
[21:17] <phunyguy> spouky, what?
[21:17] <MagicSpud> and one more thing... how to make nautilus windows to pop up in the middle of the screen?
[21:17] <spouky> are   you,  deadare  you  dead ?
[21:17] <clino> @ ikonia thanks -- still here it is : http://ppa.launchpad.net/coolwanglu/pdf2htmlex/ubuntu/dists/
[21:17] <MagicSpud> they use to pop up aligned top left
[21:17] <phunyguy> spouky, please stop that
[21:17] <spouky> are  you  dead  ?
[21:18] <fpmvu> phunyguy: thanks for your help, it seems to work with a changed password
[21:18] <phunyguy> almost stepped on you, ikonia ;)
[21:18] <phunyguy> fpmvu, cheers
[21:18] <fpmvu> I'll see if I can set a proper password and if it works
[21:18] <alteregoa> i got errors
[21:19] <alteregoa> i got error upgrade saucy-- trusty unicode error > http://pastebin.com/yUvsq8W3
[21:20] <phunyguy> alteregoa, you may need to file a bug report
[21:20] <phunyguy> that doesn't look good :(
[21:21] <phunyguy> ok I am going home, bbiab
[21:21] <fpmvu> phunyguy: it seems my keyboard layouts are messed up
[21:21] <fpmvu> I'll have some fun cleaning it up
[21:21] <fpmvu> thanks again for your help
[21:22] <beniwtv> Hi all... Anyone can tell me where pulseaudio is started on a new ubuntu install... I have a custom .xsession that I launch, with only xbmc-standalone as a command. However, pulseaudio still gets started on bootup. Anyone knows where that is started?
[21:23] <alteregoa> i need to fill a banana ware report
[21:23] <alteregoa> because the bug report is already fileld 2 months ago
[21:23] <alteregoa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1295971
[21:24] <alteregoa> i have to upgrade because i want to get rid of this ultra-buggy upstart thing
[21:27] <trism> alteregoa: trusty still has upstart
[21:27] <alteregoa> oh
[21:27] <nashant> is there any way to load an installer with a newer kernel?
[21:27] <alteregoa> and unicorn?
[21:28] <ikonia> nashant: no, why would you do that ?
[21:28] <alteregoa> pink unicorn or something?
[21:28] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, do you want disable pulse at startup?
[21:28] <trism> alteregoa: utopic has the option of systemd but not default yet
[21:28] <nashant> ikonia: because the current kernel doesn't recognise the sata controller that my ssds are attached to
[21:28] <ikonia> nashant: does a later kernel ?
[21:29] <Thedarkb> help me
[21:29] <alteregoa> ah thank to the human mankind systemd is back in unicorn
[21:29] <nashant> ikonia: possibly, or at least you can make it do so
[21:29] <ikonia> nashant: "possibly" ??? "make it do so" ??
[21:29] <nashant> ikonia: http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/
[21:29] <Thedarkb> My computer won't boot to ubuntu
[21:30] <ikonia> nashant: where does it say you need a newer kernel ?
[21:30] <ikonia> nashant: I see some guy pushing something into "sys" file system on a standard 3.2 kernel
[21:30] <daftykins> Thedarkb: explain what you have done and what went wrong, on one line
[21:30] <nashant> ikonia: What kernel does that standard installer use?
[21:31] <ikonia> nashant: should be the same as the install
[21:31] <Thedarkb> I dropped my laptop when it was accessing the hard disk
[21:31] <Thedarkb> that should answer that
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Do you have backups of all of the important data on this disk?
[21:32] <nashant> ikonia: I have no idea which kernel the install has. Haven't been able to install
[21:32] <Thedarkb> I didn't bother
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[21:32] <Thedarkb> Now I wish I did
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[21:32] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel-image
[21:33] <Thedarkb> It boots until it's about to show the login screen then it crashes
[21:33] <Thedarkb> Locks up totally
[21:33] <Thedarkb> Repeatedly reading the same sector
[21:33] <Thedarkb> I can still boot to windows though
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? If it's very important then you should stop using the drive completely right now to avoid further damage.
[21:34] <Platypus-Man> got a new laptop with freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04, norwegian keyboard layout... the AltGr key pops up a context-menu (as if I right-clicked something) rather than letting me chose alternate characters on the keyboard... settings -> keyboard has both "compose key" and "alternative characters key" set to disabled as default, I've tried to change them to "right alt" one at a time, but it didn't
[21:34] <Platypus-Man> help... any ideas?
[21:34] <Thedarkb> Well according to chkdsk I only killed 12 sectors
[21:34] <ikonia> nashant: 3.1.19
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Were you booted into Windows or Ubuntu when you dropped the computer?
[21:35] <Thedarkb> Ubuntu
[21:35] <nashant> ikonia: so still not 3.2.0. There's really no way of injecting a newer kernel into the installer?
[21:35] <ikonia> nashant: no
[21:35] <ikonia> nashant: however I'd check if 3.2 is really needed
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Then some number of damaged secgtors on your Windows partition probably indicates many more damaged sectors in your Ubuntu partition, as those sectors were more likely to have been in use.
[21:36] <nashant> ikonia: Well I'm trying it on the current one and it's not working at all. No love from them at all. Works on 2.6.x though.
[21:36] <Thedarkb> I scanned the ubuntu partiton
[21:36] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? If it's very important then you should stop using the drive completely right now to avoid further damage.
[21:36] <ikonia> nashant: trying what on the current one ?
[21:37] <Thedarkb> Jordan_U: I'm too busy frantically backing up
[21:37] <nashant> ikonia: To push the vendor/device IDs to the ahci driver
[21:37] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: How important is the data to you? This is an important question.
[21:38] <ikonia> nashant: not sure how that will fly on a livecd
[21:38] <Thedarkb> Jordan_U: I could live without it
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: OK. Are you currently booted into Ubuntu or Windows?
[21:38] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: yep
[21:39] <Thedarkb> Windows, I told you prior that Ubuntu won't load fully
[21:40] <nashant> ikonia: I suppose I could disconnect the other drives, put the ssds on the controller that works, upgrade to 3.2+ kernel, push the IDs to the driver and then put the SSDs back on the Marvell one. But I don't know if the new device IDs would stic
[21:40] <nashant> k
[21:40] <Thedarkb> I'm opening my linux partition in a hex editor
[21:40] <alteregoa> omg marvell
[21:40] <ikonia> nashant: how are you going to upgrade to a 3.2 kernel ?
[21:40] <ikonia> nashant: there isn't a package for it
[21:40] <Thedarkb> The first few kilobytes are null
[21:40] <nashant> ikonia: manually
[21:41] <ikonia> sounds like a bad idea, but it's up to you
[21:42] <nashant> It's really not what I would like to do
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: I would recommend booting from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB to recover files. Also, check the SMART status of the drive.
[21:42] <Thedarkb> It isn't even really a partition
[21:43] <nashant> But I'm trying to set up Xen with ATI passthrough to run an XBMC domU, and I'm not having any love at all
[21:43] <Thedarkb> It's a partition within the windows partition
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Are you using Wubi?
[21:43] <Thedarkb> Yup
[21:43] <Thedarkb> I'm on precise pangolin I think
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: I highly recommend against using Wubi.
[21:44] <Thedarkb> Why, It's been stable for years
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: You've been lucky for years then :)
[21:44] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, you could uncomment `; autospawn = yes autospawn = no` in /etc/pulse/client.conf
[21:44] <nashant> ikonia: And the only other thing I can think of is running an Ubuntu dom0 with XBMC and then everything else on top of that
[21:44] <Guest96636> somebody here nows how to crack a WEP password with aircrack-ng ? I tried and give a error , somebody can help?
[21:44] <Thedarkb> Lenovo format drives in a way preventing partitioning
[21:44] <Thedarkb> I had no choice
[21:45] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: Thanks, will try that
[21:45] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, thats semi-colon is a comment remove it ;)
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: 4 primary partitions?
[21:45] <beniwtv> gr33n7007h: Figured as much :)
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> beniwtv, ;p
[21:46] <Thedarkb> Yup, and none deleteable
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> Guest96636, That's not an ubuntu related question is it?
[21:46] <Thedarkb> One of them holds the factory reset stuff
[21:46] <Thedarkb> One windows
[21:46] <Thedarkb> And one junk
[21:47] <alteregoa> someday a real rain come down and wash all those ubuntu bugs away from the repositorys
[21:47] <Thedarkb> I'm gonna need to play with GParted for a whiiile to fix this one
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: Anyway, at the grub menu select "recovery mode" and run fsck from there to try to fix the filesystem metadata damage. Damage to file contents can't really be helped much.
[21:48] <Thedarkb> Tried
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: And?
[21:48] <Thedarkb> Locked up after 4 seconds
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What steps did you perform exactly?
[21:48] <Thedarkb> I put ubuntu into recovery mode and tried to drop to root prompt
[21:49] <Thedarkb> Didn;t work
[21:49] <Thedarkb> I then tried fsck
[21:49] <Thedarkb> And my system locked
[21:49] <alteregoa> 65-khmer.conf line 32 out of memory
[21:49] <alteregoa> lol
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What do you mean by "didn't work"?
[21:51] <Thedarkb> I couldn't log in
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Thedarkb: What happened when you tried to log in? (And in the future, please try to be as detailed as possible so I don't have to ask as many follow up questions like this)
[21:57] <luvs2spooge> I recently purchased the vaio duo 11 and am wondering if I could install ubuntu touch on it and have it work normal. Anyone know?
[21:59] <Nilson> quit
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[22:04] <f00dMonsta> anyone encountered issues with flash player crashing for the vimeo player on firefox?
[22:06] <f00dMonsta> luvs2spooge: not sure if you've already googled it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2096375
[22:07] <luvs2spooge> f00dMonsta: yeah I am reading this thread right now
[22:08] <luvs2spooge> f00dMonsta: this only pertains to ubuntu 12 and there is some bug with the multi touch
[22:08] <luvs2spooge> hope it was fixed by this point
[22:10] <Jordan_U> luvs2spooge: You can always test things via the LiveCD/USB before installing.
[22:10]  * f00dMonsta agree with Jordan_U
[22:11] <greenpandian> hi
[22:13] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Yes. Firefox has the old flash player.
[22:13] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Get the current version of flash (13.x) and it'll be fine.
[22:15] <anonymous> anyone here have ipv6 wizardy
[22:16] <anonymous> im having a beast of a time with SLAAC
[22:17] <anonymous> just going to dump.. I have a machine on my network that gives out router-advertisements, but my ubu box never puts a router-solicitation on the wire
[22:17] <anonymous> i can get it to do one with rdisc6
[22:17] <anonymous> but when i flip the interface, it never poops on out
[22:17] <anonymous> driving me nuts
[22:19] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: I already have the latest stable version installed <IP_ADDRESS>9
[22:19] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: for linux that is
[22:19] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, Chrome has 13.x
[22:20] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: they pretty much develop their own flash plugin
[22:20] <anonymous> hm decided to install all updates maybe that will help .. cross-topic accidental assist
[22:20] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, And it works on vimeo. I think there's some pepperflash  ppa to get 13.x into Firefox
[22:21] <mexi_d3> f00dMonsta, You could also try disabling Flash and seeing if they detect that and serve you HTML5 instead
[22:23] <f00dMonsta> mexi_d3: i ended up just downloading the video... youtube is fine, so are all the other video players (that I've tried)... just vimeo being a pain
[22:26] <mexi_d3> And people say XP sucks as it's not served by security updates anymore. Flash 11!
[22:26] <f00dMonsta> xp is fine...
[22:26] <f00dMonsta> the best security is usage habits
[22:27] <f00dMonsta> nothing can protect people from ignorance and stupidity :P
[22:27] <mexi_d3> i'd say running an unsupported version of flash was a bit dodgy
[22:28] <mexi_d3> Bearing in mind the sheer number of holes in flash
[22:28] <f00dMonsta> they still do updates to it apparantly... just no new features
[22:29] <Bray90820> Does anyone know of a good way to manage a harmony remote with ubuntu specifically the harmony ultimate
[22:29] <mexi_d3> That's news to me
[22:30] <mexi_d3> They don't even update the Android one anymore and that's far more commonly used than the desktop linux version
[22:30] <mexi_d3> The update is the new one in chrome
[22:30] <f00dMonsta> sigh... i hope we phase out of flash asap
[22:31] <Platypus-Man> I'm still stumped as to how I can make right Alt give me other characters, rather than bringing up a context menu.. any ideas?
[22:31] <f00dMonsta> I don't like chrome that much... only reason why I used it on windows was cos firefox froze too much... don't have that problem on ubuntu tho
[22:32] <jendop> yeah
[22:32] <f00dMonsta> well except when the flash player crashes...
[22:32] <mexi_d3> If you want the new one there is a 3rd party ppa for it. It's called pepperflash.
[22:33] <f00dMonsta> i thought it doesn't work with firefox
[22:33] <f00dMonsta> different api and stuff
[22:33] <jendop> yeah
[22:34] <mexi_d3> it does now
[22:34] <mexi_d3> allegedly
[22:35] <mexi_d3> i don't know
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> https://github.com/mozilla/shumway
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> mozilla is making their own flash vm apparantly
[22:36] <mexi_d3> maybe this? http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[22:36] <f00dMonsta> but I doubt it's production ready
[22:37] <mexi_d3> He's made a hack to use pepper in firefx
[22:37] <f00dMonsta> says hardware accel not working, which sucks when watching videos...
[22:37] <mexi_d3> of course installing untrusted 3rd party code to fix untrusted 3rd party code is ... well ...
[22:38] <f00dMonsta> another method: use pipelight... http://askubuntu.com/a/418329/89092
[22:38] <f00dMonsta> anyway getting off work bai
[22:39] <steveeJ> hi ubuntu folks, is there a way to tell an ubuntu live system which file/filesystem it should use for persistence?
[22:39] <jendop> yes there is
[22:39] <steveeJ> i'm reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence, and there seems to be no option shown
[22:41] <Tin_man> anyone know about mint? or why it says that it needs to restart evertime it boots?
[22:41] <jendop> yes
[22:41] <Tin_man> ok
[22:41] <steveeJ> jendop: how? i'm building a multiboot usb stick with grub2 installed. i need several persistence-files because there will be more than one live-system
[22:42] <Tin_man> never had good luck with grub
[22:42] <Tin_man> could be me
[22:42] <steveeJ> the system is booting fine, but i want to add persistence now
[22:43] <Tin_man> dual boot?
[22:43] <steveeJ> i have two live systems on there currently
[22:43] <Tin_man> kill one.. :-)
[22:44] <Tin_man> windows?
[22:44] <steveeJ> if ubuntu doesn't take a parameter for the casper-rw file/filesystem, i'll have to solve it through grub
[22:44] <Tin_man> i gave up windows.. trust me...
[22:44] <steveeJ> have i mentioned windows anywhere? ;)
[22:45] <Tin_man> didn't have to
[22:45] <steveeJ> i'm building this on gentoo linux
[22:45] <Tin_man> i know
[22:45] <steveeJ> i want to have a couple of different linux distributions live-bootable on one usb drive
[22:45] <Tin_man> i like a clean install
[22:45] <Tin_man> ok
[22:46] <Tin_man> they have a bunch of forums that discuss this subject
[22:47] <steveeJ> i've found no answer to multiple persistence files on the same drive
[22:47] <Tin_man> i play with a bunch of OSs but i like the one i'm on
[22:47] <steveeJ> all i read is it keeps looking for either a filesystem with the label casper-rw, or a file on the rootfs of the drive called casper-rw
[22:47] <orion> Hi. Do I need to compile a custom kernel to get macvtap support?
[22:48] <Tin_man> brb
[22:48] <steveeJ> i could try to map the according casper-rw filesystem with grub for each live-system!
[22:49] <Tin_man> man, i'm not a really good source of information.. but keep going
[22:50] <trism> orion: 14.04 has CONFIG_MACVTAP=m
[22:50] <Tin_man> all i know is i'm running ubuntu 14.04.. out of the ISO file. works great
[22:51] <Tin_man> my system from now on.. maybe... :)
[22:52] <steveeJ> happy when you're happy Tin_man  ;)
[22:52] <Seannie> how do i remove something i installed?
[22:56] <steveeJ> Seannie: ubuntu software center. alternative: apt-get remove *packagename*
[22:56] <Seannie> ty
[22:57] <steveeJ> Seannie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1143/how-can-i-uninstall-software
[22:57] <steveeJ> Seannie: yw
[23:00] <luvs2spooge> Jordan_U: true. Where is a downloadable copy of the ubuntu os for touchscreen devices that I can download? the one that is used on phones and such
[23:03] <kostkon> !touch | luvs2spooge
[23:03] <luvs2spooge> thank you!
[23:03] <john592> hello, can someone help me fix my amd drivers? i cant get it installed, got a couple broken installations and i dont know how to clean em
[23:04] <alvarolm> hi guys!!!
[23:04] <alvarolm> this looks right to anyone http://pastebin.com/89SKxfFH ?
[23:05] <john592> do anyone have a tutorial how to clean any old drivers installed? i tried installing my ATI drivers 3-5 times and always fail so I bet they clogged up the system
[23:17] <vilambit> clean?
[23:17] <vilambit> this is not windows :P
[23:18] <alteregoa> why unrar-nonfree is beta, and on fedora final?
[23:20] <alteregoa> thank h.r giger for alien
[23:20] <john592>  do anyone have a tutorial how to clean any old drivers installed? i tried installing my ATI drivers 3-5 times and always fail so I bet they clogged up the system
[23:25] <dbolser> which package should I pick from png.h?
[23:25] <dbolser> apt-file lists many
[23:26] <thecha> hi my sound suddenly stopped
[23:26] <thecha> how do i restarts sound?
[23:26] <thecha> is there a cli comand?
[23:26] <dbolser> libpng++-dev or libpng12-dev ?
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: I'm sorry, you're actually deaf now
[23:27] <thecha> :(
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: it depends on which sound system you're using
[23:27] <thecha> maudio
[23:27] <dbolser> thecha: I'm not an expert I should say
[23:27] <thecha> it worked a minute a go
[23:27] <thecha> seamlessly
[23:28]  * dbolser picks libpng++-dev
[23:28] <dbolser> thecha: sound always confused me on linux
[23:28] <jnoob22> I am using 13.10 ... anyone know of a good tweak utility for changing fonts in Unity?
[23:28] <dbolser> thecha: tried in ##linux?
[23:28] <jnoob22> no, not yet ;)
[23:29] <dbolser> jnoob22: I don't use unity
[23:29] <jnoob22> just did find unity-tweak-tool in the repos
[23:29] <jnoob22> ah ok np
[23:29] <dbolser> and real men don't use fonts
[23:29] <jnoob22> lol I hear you :)
[23:29] <dbolser> ;-)
[23:33] <googlelol> I need help using bash
[23:33] <googlelol> but #bash sucks
[23:34] <Pici> googlelol: Thats too bad, since that is the best place to find bash help on freenode.
[23:34] <googlelol> well all they do is call me a troll for no reason so
[23:34] <googlelol> forget it
[23:35] <googlelol> ill maybe be used ubuntu with it
[23:35] <googlelol> using*
[23:41] <sharp3y> hey all :) just installed an ubuntu dual boot so figured I should find a channel :D
[23:42] <googlelol> where else can I ask about bash
[23:42] <ikonia> #bash
[23:43] <googlelol> where else
[23:43] <ikonia> #bash is the right place
[23:43] <googlelol> last time I went there with a legit question they quieted me for 'trolling'
[23:43] <googlelol> so fuck it
[23:43] <ikonia> googlelol: thats your problem
[23:43] <googlelol> no it isnt my problem
[23:49] <denz_> anyone around that might be able to help me sort out some chrome/flash issues?
[23:50] <denz_> i've tried a few recommended fixes i found online, but to no avail thus far...
[23:50] <Rick_> Hello all! Can someone instruct me how to use qBittorrent?
[23:50] <Rick_> I attempt to download a torrent and when it comes to selecting a program none comes up.
[23:50] <denz_> right, where are my manners?: hello all!
[23:51] <denz_> anyone around that might be able to help me sort out some chrome/flash issues?
[23:51] <denz_> as in flash no longer working in chrome
[23:51] <Jordan_U> denz_: You'll have to give a more detailed description of what problem you're having.
[23:53] <Rick_> #darkmyst
[23:53] <Rick_> Whoops wrong box ><
[23:53] <denz_> basically in chrome only (firefox seems to be running fine) just about any page with embedded video now tells me "You either have Javascript turned off or an old version of Flash Player."
[23:53] <denz_> except youtube, that runs fine
[23:53] <denz_> but i'm guessing that may be because it's now running html5?
[23:54] <denz_> so yeah, every page with video i've been to so far -except youtube- in chrome gives that same error
[23:54] <denz_> "You either have Javascript turned off or an old version of Flash Player."
[23:55] <Jordan_U> denz_: What is the output of "google-chrome --version"?
[23:57] <denz_> Jordan_U: it's Google Chrome 35.0.1916.114
[23:58] <gr33n7007h> denz_, well thats upto date
[23:58] <denz_> Jordan_U thanks for the assistance btw
[23:59] <denz_> yeah everything should be up to date, i even updated my repos and reinstalled flash
[23:59] <trism> denz_: do you have the pepper flash plugin enabled in chrome://plugins ? if you were using the repo version before they are disabled in 35
[23:59] <Jordan_U> denz_: Please go to "about:flash" and copy and paste the contents to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (then share the link with us).