[07:46] <Gnea>       Currently, you cannot use the Fn+F2 key combination to turn on/off your wireless. To turn on your wireless open a terminal and type
[07:47] <Gnea> echo 1 > /proc/acpi/asus/wlan
[07:47] <devslashnull> Gnea, permission denied
[07:47] <devslashnull> even with sudo
[07:47] <Gnea> wut?
[07:48] <Gnea> man, and this is the system that i want to get, too
[07:48] <Karn> Anyone Use MSN
[07:48] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: sudo wont work with that command
[07:48] <Gnea> Karn: no, IRC
[07:48] <prince_jammys> sudo bash -c 'echo 1 > /proc/blah'
[07:48] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: you need to do a sudo -i and then issue that command
[07:49] <prince_jammys> or echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/blah
[07:49] <devslashnull> sweird
[07:49] <devslashnull> no such file or directory
[07:49] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: you need to load the driver first using sudo modprobe ath_pci
[07:49] <Gnea> right, not /proc/blah, /proc/acpi/asus/wlan
[07:50] <devslashnull> gnea no kidding it did that
[07:50] <prince_jammys> heh.ok. i was about to apologize
[07:50] <devslashnull> error loading the modules
[07:50] <devslashnull> module
[07:50] <Gnea> pastebin?
[07:50] <devslashnull> unknown symbol or unknown parameter
[07:50] <devslashnull> i cant do pastebin
[07:51] <Gnea> there's no ethernet port on it?
[07:51] <devslashnull> dont have access to it why
[07:51] <digitaldoll> I installed "recordmydesktop" and ran it but how come I can't find my avi
[07:51] <eso4b> holaaa!!
[07:51] <ola> ola julia
[07:51] <Gnea> i'll save my reliance-on-new-technologies-without-backups rant for another time, another place
[07:51] <eso4b> putoooon
[07:52] <digitaldoll> where does the recordmydesktop recordings save to please?
[07:52] <GaMbi> my god.. finaly found a program that can recover my music (I hope) scaned (10 min) searched (30 min) found out that it was the wrong drive.. now its scanning the right drive (1½ hour).. its 9am.. think its time to get some sleep zzz
[07:52] <ola> very very good
[07:52] <eso4b> q dice??
[07:52] <prince_jammys> !es | eso4b
[07:52] <ola> dady yankee
[07:52] <eso4b> ooohh!
[07:52] <ola> ooh !
[07:52] <ola> neville
[07:52] <ola> como el de harry potter
[07:52] <GaMbi> and I cant get back on my beloved Ubuntu :( /cry
[07:53] <ola> cry cry cry
[07:53] <eso4b> what are you doing
[07:53] <ola> don't worry
[07:53] <ola> be happe
[07:53] <eso4b> sissy
[07:53] <ola> tu tu tu turur turur turur
[07:53] <newlife> What is best way to set read permission on a file you only want certain people to view ? ?
[07:53] <GaMbi> ola is on crack me thinks
[07:53] <eso4b> porompompom porompomperoporom
[07:53] <ola> gor de gordo?¿
[07:53] <Karn> Don't Cry.....
[07:53] <ola> yes yes
[07:53] <eso4b> carlo qmdise
[07:54] <h4x0r> setting permission for explicit users?
[07:54] <tritium> Enough, ola and eso4b
[07:54] <ola>  k t digo
[07:54] <paul68> !atitude > ola
[07:54] <ola> enought your father
[07:54] <GaMbi> they call me mellow yellow
[07:54] <UnixUnderFire> is there a way to to use Tor with freenod?
[07:54] <Gnea> !offtopic | ola
[07:54] <paul68> !attitude > ola
[07:54] <prince_jammys> ola: bye
[07:55] <UnixUnderFire> vwracer69, Hows the Orange county?
[07:55] <vwracer69> not bad but i live farther north from there
[07:56] <Gnea> hrmm
[07:56] <UnixUnderFire> L.a?
[07:56] <vwracer69> yes
[07:56] <legend2440> digitaldoll: if i remember right recordmydesktop makes an  ogg file and puts it in your /home  or /home/yourusername folder
[07:56] <newlife> h4x0r: Yes I would like like to set permissions on a certain file or folder ..... Is that fairly easy to do ?
[07:57] <UnixUnderFire> vwracer69, Ever see the line of a hundred subarus cruzing around the freeways?
[07:57] <prince_jammys> newlife: if you know about unix permissions, yes
[07:57] <prince_jammys> newlife: with the 'chmod' command
[07:57] <vwracer69> no have not seen that
[07:58] <newlife> prince_jammys: Can I do this in ubuntu as well?
[07:58] <prince_jammys> newlife: well, also with the GUI, actually
[07:58] <prince_jammys> newlife: yes
[07:58] <prince_jammys> what permissions do you want to set?
[07:59] <newlife> prince_jammys: ok - got me going in right direction - will do some google info on how to use command or do a "man chmod" at command line - Thanks much
[07:59] <drgonzo00000> After I installed the mad wifi drivers for my Atheros AR5007EG in the new 2.6.24-21-generic kernel, I can't boot into the new kernel because I get a kernel panic when loading my wireless drivers. How can I fix this problem?
[07:59] <prince_jammys> newlife: the command is easy. it's understanding the permissions that can be tricky, if you're not familiar
[08:00] <devslashnull> gnea is the driver part of the kernel ?
[08:00] <meoblast001> how do i make murrine engine translucent
[08:00] <meoblast001> i add themes
[08:00] <meoblast001> and its still opaque
[08:00] <Gnea> devslashnull: any module has links to the kernel, so yes
[08:00] <newlife> prince_jammys: GUI app might be easier right now and come back to Terminal later - what do you suggest i install from synaptics?
[08:01] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, are you still here  ?
[08:01] <Oprtz> what is the command to EDIT samba smb,conf file ?
[08:01] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: yes
[08:01] <prince_jammys> newlife: gnome (nautilus, the file manager) can do it. you probably don't have to install anything
[08:01] <devslashnull> is ubuntu for eeepc supposed to have a taskbar at the bottom
[08:01] <outbackwifi> Oprtz: swat
[08:01] <Toipilas> How i can use my website baker image-gallery? I just downloaded .zip and install it, but how i can use my gallery? Where is it?
[08:01] <devslashnull> or is that intentionally removed
[08:01] <Gnea> drgonzo00000: is it giving any information on why it's panicing?
[08:01] <prince_jammys> newlife: when you right click on a file, i think. (i don't have gnome)
[08:01] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: dunno, mine is a stock ubuntu distro with only the kernel different
[08:02] <newlife> prince_jammys: Just right click on file and set permission?
[08:02] <prince_jammys> newlife: yes, and be careful
[08:02] <devslashnull> do you hok
[08:02] <Oprtz> outbackwifi:  swat ?
[08:02] <prince_jammys> newlife: what permissions do you want to set? and are they on a regular file or a directory?
[08:02] <outbackwifi> !swat
[08:02] <newlife> prince_jammys: Yea - runing Gnome here - warmed up to it - like it better then KDE as of now....
[08:03] <drgonzo00000> GNEA: it spits a bunch of numbers and then it tells me there is a kernel panic if you tell me how to log my boot sequence for it and I will send you a link
[08:03] <Oprtz> ahh ok
[08:03] <Oprtz> thanks
[08:03] <newlife> prince_jammys: It's a Open Office word file.
[08:03] <badfish> !ttf
[08:04] <Gnea> drgonzo00000: it may or may not be in /var/log/dmesg.0
[08:04] <Gnea> drgonzo00000: you could always blacklist the driver temporarily
[08:05] <vwracer69> Have a quick question? Does anyone else have a problem with booting Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27-7 with there cdrom drive closed? and if so if there is a fix/workaround for it?
[08:06] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | vwracer69
[08:06] <bullgard4> I am going to download a shell script. In what Ubuntu directory should I store it? (I know that it is wise to put it in a directory which is included in $PATH.)
[08:06] <Gnea> vwracer69: please ask in #ubuntu+1, we only support 8.04 and earlier
[08:07] <Flannel> bullgard4: ~/bin/ will work fine if its just for your own use.
[08:07] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: you could put it in your users 'bin' directory, or /usr/local/bin
[08:07] <vwracer69> sry, thnx for the info
[08:07] <strumic1> how to make chmod permission so everyone can access the folder, i did chmod -R 644 to a directory now i can not access it
[08:07] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: depending on whether you want other users to be able to run it
[08:07] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, ok i upgraded the kernel and its working again
[08:07] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: great work!
[08:07] <devslashnull> wait let me be sure
[08:07] <devslashnull> 1 sec
[08:07] <devslashnull> yep
[08:07] <devslashnull> pinging google
[08:07] <newlife> prince_jammys: sorry - I was trying to set permissions on a test .odt file and will probably need to do it with chmod -
[08:07] <FloodBot2> devslashnull: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <Gnea> vwracer69: no big deal, just want to make sure you're not barking up the wrong tree :)
[08:08] <Flannel> strumic1: directories need to be +x in order for you to access them.  What are you trying to give everyone access to?
[08:08] <prince_jammys> newlife: exactly what permissions do you want to set?
[08:08] <bullgard4> Flannel, prince_jammys: Thank you.
[08:08] <devslashnull> uh oh ive got another problem
[08:08] <strumic1> Flannel: /var/www/
[08:08] <devslashnull> its reporting that my device is 100% full
[08:09] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: remove the apt archives to reclaim some space (you have only 4G remember?)
[08:09] <devslashnull> yes
[08:09] <devslashnull> so do i remove the entire /etc/apt folder ?
[08:09] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: also, if you are sure everything is working fine with this kernel, just remove the older ones
[08:09] <prince_jammys> no!
[08:09] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: dont delete it by hand, use the command
[08:10] <Gnea> devslashnull: sudo apt-get clean
[08:10] <prince_jammys> devslashnull: use apt-get clean
[08:10] <outbackwifi> Gnea: tx
[08:10] <outbackwifi> :)
[08:10] <Gnea> :)
[08:10] <newlife> prince_jammys: I do not want someone to be able to open a .odt file without using a password or if it was even totally hidden as well would work - I know there are ways to do this relatively easy in windows.
[08:10] <outbackwifi> newlife: you can password protect the odt file from openoffice, you shouldnt be required to mess with the filesystem
[08:11] <prince_jammys> newlife: changing the permissions will affect what users can open the file. passwords don't come into play
[08:11] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, after sudo apt-get clean i am at 91%. anything else i can clean since ive got so little space
[08:11] <prince_jammys> if you want password protection, don't mess with the permissions
[08:11] <romeo> hi guys
[08:11] <newlife> outbackwifi: Thanks will give that a try on a test file 1st.
[08:12] <strumic1> how to make chmod permission so everyone can access the folder, i did chmod -R 644 to a directory now i can not access it
[08:12] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: the old kernel, modules and headers also gives back a lot ofspace
[08:12] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: i also cleaned out my /usr/share/doc
[08:12] <prince_jammys> :(
[08:12] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, i removed the older kernel and headers
[08:12] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: in fact i moved the apt archives to a 4G SDHC card
[08:13] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: modules too? look in /lib/modules
[08:13] <ogzy> hi, i dont see the orange progress bar at usplash during shutdown, did someone have the same problem before?
[08:13] <romeo> i wanted to know if anyone knows if there is a easyer way to change from ubuntu normal to ubuntu studio am runing 8.10 beta right now
[08:13] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, did u erase everything in /usr/share/doc ?
[08:13] <prince_jammys> strumic1: 6 is no good. you the executable bit set if you want to be able to open the dir. CAREFUL with -R
[08:13] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: and moved my thunderbird mail box to an external USB 120G drive
[08:13] <newlife> prince_jammys: What outbackwifi suggested will be best for now - will try that - thanks for your help - Also when I have time I'am not afraid to learn more about using the Terminal - Thanks again.
[08:13] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: yes i did
[08:13] <prince_jammys> newlife: cool.
[08:14] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | romeo
[08:14] <newlife> price_jammy: Worst I can do is break this thing and get real good at doing install - ha ha
[08:15] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, ok ive done everything execept move apt archives and im at 86%
[08:15] <devslashnull> how do i move the apt archives
[08:15] <romeo> ok thank you
[08:15] <devslashnull> do i just move it and create a symbolic link ?
[08:15] <prince_jammys> newlife: careful with permissions. depending on where you're changing them, they can be a fast way to break things
[08:15] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: sudo apt-get clean
[08:16] <devslashnull> i did that already
[08:16] <devslashnull> but you said you moved the archives to the shdc card
[08:16] <blanktheserver> Hey, I'm wondering if there is a way to manually set the driver to use ( for onboard wifi ) The one which comes with ubuntu is bugged for my intel n card, and it needs the iwl4965.
[08:17] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: oh ok, i just moved the directory to the card and then setup a symbolic link from /var/cache/apt/archives to the SD car
[08:17] <outbackwifi> card
[08:18] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, and have you overclocked yours to 900mhz?
[08:18] <blanktheserver> I'm not sure if the driver is simply not installed, or it's using the wrong one.
[08:18] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: did that once but brought it back now
[08:18] <devslashnull> back to 630 ?
[08:19] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: yes
[08:19] <devslashnull> why ?
[08:20] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: read somewhere that 900MHz  doesnt really work on the 701 and didnt want to mess with the CPU. Just upgraded to a 1000H instead ;)
[08:21] <devslashnull> how much was that ?
[08:22] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: uhh about $700 (with a 2G RAM, 160 G HDD and a 6600 mAH battery)
[08:22] <devslashnull> wow
[08:22] <devslashnull> the one thing that frustrates me is that the kb is so frickin small
[08:22] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: get about 5 hrs of battery
[08:22] <devslashnull> and the 701 ?
[08:22] <devslashnull> battery wise
[08:22] <prince_jammys> why did you remove /usr/share/doc, out of curiosity?
[08:23] <outbackwifi> prince_jammys: to save on disk space, you see the 701 has only a 4G SSD
[08:23] <go_beep_yourself> waste of space
[08:23] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: was happy if i got 2.5 hrs on wifi
[08:23] <newlife> outbackwifi: Thanks for tip on .odt file - did a test file and worked great - all smiles now   :o)
[08:23] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, wow thats little...
[08:23] <outbackwifi> newlife: yw
[08:24] <prince_jammys> why not get another hard drive..or another distro?
[08:24] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: the 901 and 1000H now have the atom processor that consumes 2.5w of power
[08:24] <prince_jammys> i have a ton of documentation installed, including man-pages-dev, and several e-books. the entire /usr/share/doc takes up 542 MB here.
[08:24] <devslashnull> the thing is, 700 is kind of a lot. i only bought this eeepc cause it was really cheap
[08:24] <newlife> outbackwifi: another tip for the ol' "Bin O Tips" page.......
[08:25] <outbackwifi> newlife: sure
[08:25] <outbackwifi> prince_jammys: i guess you havent seen the eeepc 701, it has a solid state drive soldered to the mobo
[08:25] <devslashnull> same as macbook air
[08:26] <prince_jammys> no, i definitely haven't
[08:26] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: i read somewhere that the price has now dropped to around 400 (not sure)
[08:26] <blanktheserver> It seems stupid to have a larger eepc.
[08:26] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, still out of my price range
[08:26] <devslashnull> i paid 150 for this one
[08:26]  * outbackwifi not really if its your main pc now :)
[08:27] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: thats really cheap!! i paid 400 for mine in march
[08:27] <devslashnull> ebay
[08:27] <outbackwifi> but again, lets move the banter to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:27] <devslashnull> i just need ot see if i can get a foldable usb based kb
[08:27] <devslashnull> i cant stand its kb
[08:28] <Karn> What's the time in korea Now....
[08:28] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: got used to it after a week, now i cant type on a fullsized  KB :)
[08:28] <digitaldoll> legend2440, they all are empty...and .ogg.  is there an avi desktop recorder out there please?
[08:29] <romeo> so if i wanted to change from 8.04 lts to Kubuntu or studio
[08:29] <romeo> what would be the best way to do so
[08:29] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, did u have any problems installing the overclocking app
[08:29] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: nope
[08:29] <jussi01> !vanilla-#ubuntustudio | romeo
[08:29] <devslashnull> i was in the process of installing it when this wireless thing happened
[08:29] <kongove> Is there anybody take part in kernel development.
[08:29] <kongove> ?
[08:30] <go_beep_yourself> kongove: #kernel
[08:30] <jussi01> romeo: for kubuntu, just install the package kubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <devslashnull> not sure if its related or not
[08:30] <kongove> Thanks
[08:31] <bullgard4> Flannel: I am confused: $PATH includes an entry /home/<username>/.bin and no /home/<username>/bin . But you suggested to download a shell script to /home/<username>/bin. Please explain why did you not suggest to download to /home/<username>/.bin ?
[08:31] <Oprt1> hi, i can access shared folders of ubuntu machine from my windowsXp, but i cant access windowsXP shared folders from ubuntu machone
[08:32] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: because the usual directory for a user's scripts is ~/bin
[08:32] <prince_jammys> not .bin
[08:32] <outbackwifi> Oprt1: samba
[08:32] <devslashnull> dammit
[08:32] <devslashnull> its not compiling for me
[08:32] <Oprt1> !samba
[08:32] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: i would leave it alone
[08:32] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: unless ubuntu has made some (weird) decision to make it a hidden directory now.
[08:33] <devslashnull> well 630 is pretty flimsy.
[08:33] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: So usually I need to include an entry /home/<username>/bin to my $PATH ?
[08:33] <gradin> what in the world is going on with this wireless connection? http://pastebin.ca/1229148
[08:33] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: theres very little i couldnt do with it
[08:33] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: yes, unless it's already done in your .profile, which i think is the case in a default ubuntu
[08:33] <devslashnull> what do you mean
[08:33] <devslashnull> you didnt notice a difference
[08:33] <devslashnull> ?
[08:33] <gradin> its trying to  authenticating against the access point but times out before the authentication packet is recieved
[08:34] <Flannel> bullgard4: path shouldn't include anything for ~/.bin, that would make very little sense.  You should only have ~/bin included if it exists when the shell was created.  There's a conditional in your bashrc (for security reasons)
[08:34] <bustaplz> Agent_bob: you still here?
[08:34] <o7andrew> when I use the terminal to login as root and then gksudo, it works perfectly.. but when I open a gksudo application, my root &/or user password is not accepted >> how can I change the password needed for gksudo?
[08:34] <outbackwifi> gradin: yes that is what happens
[08:34] <gradin> outbackwifi: any idea how to fix that?
[08:35] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: yes thats why i said i dont think it really goes up to 900
[08:35] <outbackwifi> gradin: whats your h/w?
[08:35] <gradin> say increase the timeout value in network managerr?
[08:35] <o7andrew> !gksudo | o7andrew
[08:35] <gradin> outbackwifi: onboard wirelesscard
[08:35] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, looks like i have no choice
[08:35] <devslashnull> the module wont compile. gives me an error
[08:35] <gradin> outbackwifi: onboard broadcom BCM4311
[08:36] <outbackwifi> devslashnull: i used to have probs with jitter in audio, that got resolved when i junked pulseaudio for esd
[08:36] <outbackwifi> gradin: are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:36] <porkpie> guy's whats the command to show the size of dir ?
[08:36] <outbackwifi> porkpie: du -h .
[08:36] <gradin> outbackwifi: nope
[08:36] <porkpie> thanks
[08:36] <outbackwifi> porkpie: du -h /directory/you/want/size/of/
[08:37] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, sorry to ask but how do i check if im using pulseaudio or esd
[08:37] <bustaplz> Can anyone give me insight into automating a shell script to run at a certain time?
[08:37] <tophyr> bustaplz: man cron
[08:37] <Flannel> !cron | bustaplz
[08:37] <gradin> outbackwifi: i'm looking at the restricted drivers and i'm seeing a new broadcom ST wireless driver
[08:37] <pantherad> is anyone here that can help with a simple driver install issue?
[08:37] <bustaplz> ty =D
[08:38] <gradin> outbackwifi: should i use that?
[08:38] <tophyr> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument
[08:38] <tophyr> is this an error due to me not config'ing something right, or do i have shitty hw/drivers?
[08:38] <outbackwifi> gradin: you could
[08:39] <gradin> outbackwifi: is it anybetter than the b43 wireless driver?
[08:39] <Bobbino> Hmmm, I've got no sound on an imbedded video in Firefox... anyone check for me the site see if it's a problem there? http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/10/15/omg-spoilers-dead-space-launch-trailer/
[08:40] <pantherad> while trying to install a graphics driver (it's a .run file) i keep getting an error saying that i need to be a superuser.  i'm the only user on the machine so i'm a little confused (yes, i'm new... i just intalled ubuntu today)
[08:40] <Bobbino> are you installing through the terminal? If so you need to add sudo before your commands, which temporarily gives you superuser powers.
[08:40] <prince_jammys> 'sudo' allows you to run commands as superuser
[08:41] <legend2440> !screencast | digitaldoll (not sure if any record to avi but you can convert to avi)
[08:41] <pJupiter> sudo !!
[08:41] <pantherad> ohhhhhhh... i seee...
[08:41] <tophyr> pantherad: there is a distinction in linux between a normal user and a "super user"
[08:41] <pantherad> thanks
[08:41] <tophyr> most system-configuration commands require "super user" privileges
[08:41] <pJupiter> for when a command complains about your priviledges and you don't feel like retyping
[08:41] <tophyr> this is so that normal usage can't screw up your system too bad
[08:41] <pantherad> yeah, that i know, tophry... just didn't understand why i wasn't already the super user
[08:41] <tophyr> ah ok :)
[08:41] <blanktheserver> Hey, I'm wondering if there is a way to manually set the driver to use ( for onboard wifi ) The one which comes with ubuntu is bugged for my intel n card, and it needs the iwl4965. I'm not sure if the driver is not installed or it's loading the wrong one.
[08:42] <devslashnull> outbackwifi, ill give it one shot. if it doesnt work i wont continue...
[08:42] <prince_jammys> pantherad: are you sure you need to install downloaded drivers?
[08:43] <__olli> erver irc.quakenet.org
[08:43] <pantherad> well... it's a spankin' new graphic card... i'm not sure if it's supported, fully at this time
[08:43] <pantherad> 4780x2
[08:43] <gradin> mmm intresting
[08:44] <gradin> outbackwifi: fyi the sta driver is apparently a better driver for usabilty, its proprietary but better...
[08:44] <kuldeep> Which are the most widely used multiband equilizers in gstreamer
[08:44] <pantherad> am i doing this correctly?  :  sodu '/home/panthera/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run'
[08:44] <bullgard4> Flannel: At present: "~$ echo $PATH; /home/detlef/.bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" There exist two directories: ~/.bin and ~/bin . Where should I download a the shell script alsa-info.sh?
[08:45] <prince_jammys> strange
[08:45] <tophyr> pantherad: remove the quotes, they might be screwing you up
[08:45] <pantherad> k
[08:45] <tophyr> if it's not working
[08:46] <prince_jammys> the quotes don't make a difference. 'sodu' does
[08:46] <pantherad> ok
[08:46] <pantherad> sooo...
[08:46] <prince_jammys> sudo
[08:46] <pantherad> uhhh.. ok... dumb
[08:46] <pantherad> thanks
[08:46] <tophyr> prince_jammys: lol, didn't notice that
[08:46] <prince_jammys> the quotes are optional in this particular case
[08:46] <prince_jammys> (unnecessary)
[08:47] <jcal87> hey dudes
[08:47] <jcal87> and dudettes
[08:47] <marlun> Are there any feedreaders for linux which supports full offline reading (doesn't only download the text but the images too)?
[08:47] <pantherad> yeah... same error
[08:47] <jcal87> midnightRmbler: your a jerk
[08:47] <tophyr> what's the error
[08:48] <pantherad> one sec... ok, suddenly working though i haven't changed anything
[08:48] <Flannel> bullgard4: I'd put it in ~/bin, but if the other is in your path, that'd work too I suppose
[08:48]  * tophyr loves that
[08:48] <Computech> Hey, someone got any idea what the default login name is in vmware server 2 if you install it with everything default?
[08:49] <bullgard4> Flannel: Thank you for your help.
[08:49] <prince_jammys> the .bin in his path seems like a typo
[08:49] <Flannel> I have to agree.
[08:49] <prince_jammys> mistyped in .profile
[08:49] <pantherad> and that you tophyr and prince :)
[08:49] <Waistless> Hi, I'm having troubles wish the splash on bootup
[08:49] <Waistless> it works to the point where the slider is moving from side to another, then it just goes back to text on "reading file needed to boot" stage
[08:49] <prince_jammys> pantherad: welcome.
[08:50] <Waistless> doesn't look very nice :( . I tried dpkg-reconfigure usplash   but It didn't work. any ideas?
[08:50] <prince_jammys> !usplash | Waistless : maybe useful
[08:51] <Waistless> thanks :)
[08:51] <prince_jammys> maybe not. i haven't messed with usplash in a long time
[08:51] <Waistless> well it just stopped working by itself :(
[08:52] <Computech> Will something bad happen if i add a password to the root?
[08:52] <tophyr> Computech: something bad will happen if you *don't*
[08:52] <tophyr> just don't forget root's password
[08:52] <tophyr> and don't tell anybody else
[08:52] <Computech> but why there is normally no one in ubuntu then?
[08:52] <tophyr> not really sure.
[08:52] <prince_jammys> because it's not necessary, and considered more secure
[08:53] <tophyr> prince_jammys: 0_o
[08:53] <prince_jammys> though some argue with that. but that is the ubuntu way
[08:53] <prince_jammys> !noroot
[08:53] <prince_jammys> wrong
[08:53] <prince_jammys>  wrong one
[08:53] <prince_jammys> !root
[08:53] <tophyr> in linux, is it impossible to log in as root if root has no password?
[08:53] <prince_jammys> Computech: that article mentions it
[08:53] <blanktheserver> login as your user tophyr, then sudo su
[08:53] <Waistless> sometimes sudo doesn't work right, in that case I su - anyway :P
[08:53] <prince_jammys> tophyr: in a default ubuntu, yes
[08:54] <Computech> but i need a root password to login to vmware
[08:54] <tophyr> aha
[08:54] <prince_jammys> tophyr: you have to expressly set a root password in ubuntu if you want that behavior
[08:55] <tophyr> prince_jammys: which behavior?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> the ability to log in as root
[08:55] <tophyr> ah ok
[08:55] <tophyr> will Waistless's "sudo su -" work if root has no pwd?
[08:55] <Jan500> hi.. what could be the reason that dmraid only shows 1 raid-device when i promt dmraid -r ?
[08:55] <tophyr> or alternatively "sudo bash"?
[08:55] <prince_jammys> sudo -i
[08:56] <Jan500> my fakeraid controller shows both hdd
[08:56] <blanktheserver> No you just need "sudo su" tophyr.
[08:56] <tophyr> kk
[08:56] <tophyr> yeah, i'm not sure why no root pwd would be less secure than having one
[08:57] <prince_jammys> it's talked about in the link above
[08:57] <tophyr> will have to read it
[08:58] <prince_jammys> one idea is that in multiuser systems, you can trace who did what as superuser, with sudo
[08:58] <tophyr> ah, makes sense
[08:58] <tophyr> i was thinking in an intrusion situation
[09:00] <prince_jammys> if a sudo user (a sudoer)'s password is compromised, you're in trouble .. though supposedly in less trouble than if you had a root account and that password was stolen
[09:01] <jin> is there any advantage of rme to install the Ubuntu 64bit version? my cpu is a C2D. here is what I do on my computer: video encoding, php programming, run virtual machines with virtual machine for testing, and ofcourse, the usual stuff like watching movie, youtube, chatting, etc.
[09:01] <jin> for me*
[09:02] <tophyr> is 'Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument' a normal, possibly-expected-if-i-don't-do-it right or does it signify something i can't fix w/o diff hardware or drivers?
[09:02] <tophyr> prince_jammys: yeah, the stolen-password sitch was what i was thinking of
[09:02] <tophyr> although being able to track which sudoer would be some help at least
[09:03] <Flannel> tophyr, prince_jammys: also, you don't need to give people who can sudo permission to do *everything*, you can give them elevated privledges in X and Y, but not Z, etc.
[09:03] <tophyr> Flannel: neat
[09:03] <prince_jammys> oh, yeah, you can configure it a lot
[09:03] <peepsalot> is there any special repository that has the latest nvidia driver?
[09:05] <peepsalot> nvidia has a version 177.80 available on their website, but looks like the one in the regular repos is 169.12
[09:05] <peepsalot> the newer version supposedly has a workaround for a huge performance issue
[09:05] <Guest23686> m
[09:06] <Guest23686> e
[09:06] <e-frame> m
[09:06] <A|}EEL> Hi
[09:06] <A|}EEL> atlast i have successfully installed ubuntu :D
[09:06] <peepsalot> congrats
[09:06] <A|}EEL> i know know how can i run internet on it ?
[09:06] <A|}EEL> thx
[09:06] <A|}EEL> i am on LAN
[09:06] <A|}EEL> and i have been told that i should sue VPN
[09:07] <peepsalot> A|}EEL, are you on a home network?
[09:07] <Fr0ns> Can anyone here help me with UFW? The log says it's blocking certain things but I can't find what port it is...
[09:08] <A|}EEL> whats home network ? :S
[09:08] <A|}EEL> sorry am a bit new in this
[09:08] <peepsalot> I doubt you need vpn
[09:09] <kuthux> w
[09:09] <A|}EEL> yes i do i called my isp
[09:09] <Flannel> kuthux: Can we help you?
[09:09] <A|}EEL> they said u need VPN connection
[09:09] <Phantal--> Is it possible to have grub mount an ISO and boot from it?
[09:09] <peepsalot> A|}EEL, VPN connection to what?
[09:09] <A|}EEL> wait i will tell u 1 min
[09:10] <peepsalot> A|}EEL, what kind of internet service do you have?
[09:10] <A|}EEL> Cable net LAN
[09:10] <kuthux> Flannel, it was mstyped
[09:10] <kuthux> mis*
[09:11] <Fr0ns> hello?
[09:11] <kuthux> !hello \ Fr0ns
[09:11] <kuthux> !hello | Fr0ns
[09:11] <peepsalot> A|}EEL, how are you on IRC if you have no internet?
[09:11] <Fr0ns> Is any of this coming through? lol
[09:11] <A|}EEL> i do have internet
[09:11] <A|}EEL> but this is on windows
[09:11] <peepsalot> Fr0ns, yes
[09:12] <A|}EEL> i cannot find a way to connect to internet via linux
[09:12] <Fr0ns> okay, thought I had no voice..
[09:12] <mars> when i upgrade my ubuntu with apt-get it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58714/ can you help me to resolve it?
[09:12] <A|}EEL> i called the cable guys ... they said i need VPN connection which should be in APPLICATION folder
[09:12] <A|}EEL> and i cannot find that application folder :|
[09:13] <peepsalot> cable guys are morons
[09:13] <A|}EEL> thats y i am here asking u :)
[09:13] <tophyr> yeah, never listen to cable guys tbh
[09:14] <tophyr> A|}EEL: connect your linux machine via ethernet cable to your internet router (not the modem itself)
[09:14] <tophyr> run the command "sudo /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:14] <kuthux> A|}EEL use vpnc
[09:14] <Fr0ns> meh, my school project is so gonna fail ;p
[09:14] <blankthemuffin_> kernel: [  933.096936] wlan0: No ProbeResp from current AP 00:08:a1:a1:00:56 - assume out of range
[09:14] <tophyr> in that file add the line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and then hit ctrl-x to save and exit
[09:14] <blankthemuffin_> This keeps knocking me off the net, the driver won't recover unless I manually reconnect.
[09:15] <tophyr> run the command 'sudo ifup eth0'
[09:15] <tophyr> with any luck, you'll get zee intarwebs
[09:15] <A|}EEL> tophyr i have no router
[09:15] <kuthux> A|}EEL u can connect to LAN, but not internet right ?
[09:15] <A|}EEL> yes
[09:15] <A|}EEL> i am connected to LAN
[09:15] <A|}EEL> in linux as well
[09:15] <Flannel> !enter | A|}EEL
[09:16] <A|}EEL> we use Dailier to connect to internet
[09:16] <kuthux> A|}EEL then the interfaces are working fine. now is about the internet connection
[09:16] <A|}EEL> yups
[09:16] <A|}EEL> and for that i need to connect via VPN
[09:17] <A|}EEL> thats how my sister got connected to internet in VISTA also
[09:17] <kuthux> A|}EEL if the cable said that u need VPN connection, then make it. u can use vpnc
[09:17]  * peepsalot sighs, using a dialer is not "cable" internet
[09:17] <A|}EEL> peepsalot it is
[09:17] <A|}EEL> here we all guys have different dailers provided by our cable operator
[09:17] <peepsalot> well, not any kind i have ever heard of
[09:17] <kuthux> A|}EEL u have the username & password right? then put it on the config file
[09:17] <A|}EEL> kuthux yeah but i dont know how to make :|
[09:18] <A|}EEL> peepsalot technology :P
[09:18] <kuthux> A|}EEL sudo apt-get install vpnc
[09:18] <chaos1> =-O hello everyone. I was wondering if any of you knows how to fix my problem. I have an update for k3b and it is categorized as a backport. However it is not checked and i am unable to check the box. Should I be worried about this and how do I install it?
[09:18] <peepsalot> what country are you in A|}EEL ?
[09:18] <kuthux> A|}EEL then read the manual included
[09:18] <A|}EEL> hmmmm but the cable guys told me u can see VPN option in APPLICATION folder :S
[09:18] <A|}EEL> peepsalot Pakistan
[09:19] <jim_p> chaos1: do you have the backports repo enabled?
[09:19] <kuthux> A|}EEL VPN needs authentication, they must have given it to u
[09:19] <peepsalot> ah ok.  I guess they do things much differently over there, sorry I don't know what is required for your setup
[09:19] <chaos1> jim_p, I did not see that option in the software sources manager
[09:19] <A|}EEL> peepsalot :)
[09:19] <mars> when i upgrade my ubuntu with apt-get it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58714/ can you help me to resolve it?
[09:20] <A|}EEL> kuthux yes i got the login and pass
[09:20] <chaos1> i looked there first. :(
[09:20] <jim_p> chaos1: so now you can install it?
[09:20] <chaos1> no
[09:20] <kuthux> A|}EEL now install vpnc first
[09:20] <A|}EEL> its like we use dailer in XP and VPN in linux/vista
[09:20] <dandre> Hello,
[09:20] <kuthux> A|}EEL then read the manual to know where to put the username & pass
[09:20] <A|}EEL> kuthux could u tell me step by step what to do
[09:20] <chaos1> when I run updates it remains on the list. it has been like this for over a week now.
[09:20] <chaos1> should i be worried about this?
[09:20] <kuthux> A|}EEL PM me
[09:21] <jim_p> chaos1: can you post me your sources.list?
[09:21] <pw-toxic> hi - i have a very easy question ;)  i have just installed ocaml (programming language) and emacs21-nox   but i dont know how to use emcas21-nox ... i can start it with a file but i dont know anyhting than writing text or closing the programm via strg+z -> how do i find out more?
[09:21] <chaos1> sure. 1 sec jim_p
[09:21] <kitcat> hi guys
[09:21] <jim_p> hi
[09:22] <dandre> I have an application that is provided to run on windows xp pro in iis service. I guess it is written in c#. Is there a chance I can run it on my ubuntu with apache?
[09:22] <jim_p> !emacs
[09:22] <scientes> can i install plugins for firefox into my profile on linux?
[09:22] <pw-toxic> !code
[09:23] <IcyPolecat> hiya, anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to start after the network manager has run? My postfix server (on my laptop) always needs restarting due to a lack of DNS settings stuff. Failing that is it possible to hardcode DNS into  resolv.conf or Postfix?
[09:23] <pw-toxic> can anyone help me with my topic?
[09:24] <outbackwifi> dandre: you can check with mono
[09:24] <outbackwifi> !mono
[09:24] <pw-toxic> well im just looking like a standard procedure how to find out more  for a program i want to use
[09:24] <blankthemuffin_> pw-toxic, google.
[09:24] <outbackwifi> dandre: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[09:24] <chaos1> jim_p: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58716/
[09:24] <IcyPolecat> pw-toxic: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/#Manuals
[09:25] <IcyPolecat> pw-toxic: or man emacs
[09:25] <dandre> yes I know the existence of mono but my app is provided in binary form not in source form
[09:25] <kitcat> hi guys i am new here and I dont really understand the criteria used but can someone advice on which software to use to compress photos (jpeg) in ubuntu?
[09:25] <thomasite> Hello.
[09:25] <thomasite> Is the Dohickey client any good?
[09:26] <jim_p> chaos1: so you do have backports enabled
[09:26] <IcyPolecat> dandre: very unlikely you'll be able to get it running even under mono - might be best to consider a virtual machine?
[09:26] <jim_p> chaos1: can i pm you an apt output to tell me if its similar to yours??
[09:26] <chaos1> sure
[09:27] <pw-toxic> IcyPolecat: man emacs was what i was looking for - thx
[09:27] <blankthemuffin_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587786 This is the problem I'm having, as you can see the last post is my own, when I first installed ubuntu on this machine. It was fixed with the drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download however I can't install the package on intrepid, it complains that the modules it tries to unload are in use. Yes I'm using intrepid, but the problem has applied too all versions above 7.10 ( The only ones I'
[09:27] <blankthemuffin_> ve tested ).
[09:27] <IcyPolecat> pw-toxic: np
[09:27] <bustaplz> Is there a way to see feedback from cron?
[09:27] <Waistless> !splash
[09:27] <Waistless> !usplash
[09:27] <bustaplz> I'm trying to run a script but it's not functioning and I can't seem to find a logfile of sorts.
[09:27] <IcyPolecat> kitcat: gimp
[09:28] <Computech> How much memory you can max put in a ubuntu computer?
[09:28] <dandre> could be an alternative but I must take licence rights into account. so I think there no way :-(
[09:28] <outbackwifi> Computech: i have seen a server with 32G RAM
[09:28] <Computech> wtf
[09:28] <outbackwifi> !rtfm
[09:28] <IcyPolecat> Computech: depends on your mainboard - max I've used is 32GB
[09:29] <idyllic> /topics
[09:29] <Computech> wow man
[09:29] <Computech> but for what would you use so much ram, i mean, most games dont work on ubuntu
[09:29] <Computech> or are there good games?
[09:29] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: what is the script supposed to do?
[09:29] <IcyPolecat> Computech: Virtualisation... and it's worth bearing in mind that unless you fancy fiddling with Kernels you'll need 64bit to address more than 3.5 GB
[09:30] <outbackwifi> Computech: most people dont use linux for games
[09:30] <IcyPolecat> Computech: andf yes there are very good games - check out Warsow or Nexuiz :-)
[09:30] <Computech> oh
[09:30] <Computech> :)
[09:30] <bustaplz> it mounts my external, does an rsync, unmounts and uses sdparm to power down the drive
[09:30] <bustaplz> the script works when I execute it
[09:30] <bustaplz> but it doesn't seem to be cooperating with cron
[09:30] <jim_p> warsaw is nice, nexuiz is ... also world of padman is good
[09:31] <bustaplz> and I made cron make a file on my desktop to make sure it is working
[09:31] <outbackwifi> Computech: like IcyPolecat said, I have seen people run Windows 2003 server on that 32G machine cos the standard license didnt support more than 2G
[09:31] <Computech> :o
[09:31] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: did you try executing it in a terminal first?
[09:31] <bustaplz> my script?
[09:31] <Computech> but windows xp also just goes to 3.5 gb of ram?
[09:31] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: yes
[09:31] <bustaplz> outbackwifi: yes, as I said it works flawlessly
[09:32] <bustaplz> outbackwifi: but not when I ask cron to do it
[09:32] <thomasite> Hello. A serious problem regarding public keys. I can't access them.
[09:32] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: what was your crontab entry? normally cron will send you a mail upon execution
[09:32] <thomasite> :(
[09:32] <bustaplz> let me pastebin it
[09:32] <outbackwifi> thomasite: from your .ssh directory?
[09:33] <ionte> hi! i upgraded some days ago to intrepid, and now as soon as i start x i just get a black screen. i've tried to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but that did not help. i have an ATI HD3850 (?) card and i have uninstalled all fglrx pacakges.
[09:33] <pw-toxic> well emacs tells me to hold the meta key and the v key to go one page backwards, but the ubuntu console uses ALT + v for the console menu - what can i do?
[09:33] <ziroday> !intrepid | ionte
[09:34] <thomasite> I don't know. I mean I'd been trying to install R (a statistics software) and I need to have those keys so everything would be fine. However, my system seems to refuse to get those public keys.
[09:34] <jim_p> ionte: inteprid has the xorg v1.5+ which has problems with fglrx :( still ati hasnt done something. better use radeonhd
[09:34] <dellph_> hello pll.
[09:34] <thomasite> Here's the error message: gpg: requesting key 5E802C30 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[09:34] <dellph_> iptables -A INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j DROP . can this rule block <IP_ADDRESS> from access the internet?
[09:35] <ionte> jim_p: i know about that issue, but i would just want to get ANY graphics, vesa even ...
[09:35] <Silk_> Autoconnect bullshit
[09:35] <bustaplz> 25 03 * * * sudo /bin/sh /home/lee/Desktop/testing2
[09:35] <bustaplz> sorry couldny paste bin it
[09:35] <bustaplz> if I use that command in terminal the script runs
[09:35] <jim_p> ionte
[09:35] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: i dont think you can do tthat
[09:35] <Ujjwol> is there any browser for ubuntu that uses web-kit
[09:35] <Computech> IcyPolecat, are there strategy games like supreme commander to for ubuntu?
[09:35] <jim_p> ionte: try vesa or radeonhd
[09:35] <bustaplz> outbackwifi: why?
[09:35] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: remove the sudo and it will work fine
[09:36] <IcyPolecat> Computech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[09:36] <Ujjwol> is there any browser for ubuntu that uses web-kit
[09:36] <bustaplz> outbackwifi: trying it now
[09:36] <idyllic> Ujjwol: midori .. though i doubt it does you anygood
[09:36] <IcyPolecat> bustaplz: if you need the script to run as root it will need to be in root's crontab
[09:36] <petererer> sudo in cron? heh, how will it ask for the password?
[09:36] <Ujjwol> why
[09:36] <petererer> Ujjwol, epiphany-webkit
[09:36] <bustaplz> IcyPolecat how do I set it that way?
[09:36] <bustaplz> it needs to be run with sudo for sure
[09:37] <ionte> jim_p: is there a way to do that without editing xorg.conf? funny thing is that my xorg.conf is really minimal after running dpkg-reconfigure.. and i've lost my xf86config-editing skills of years past .. :)
[09:37] <IcyPolecat> bustaplz: firstly make SURE you need to run this as root
[09:37] <jin> is there any advantage for me to install the Ubuntu 64bit version? my cpu is a C2D. here is what I do on my computer: video encoding, php programming, run virtual machines with virtual machine for testing, and ofcourse, the usual stuff like watching movie, youtube, chatting, etc.
[09:37] <outbackwifi> bustaplz: sudo -i and then open up the crontab from the # prompt
[09:37] <blankthemuffin_> Computech, not really, you're better off rebooting into windows if you want to play games.
[09:37] <IcyPolecat> then do what outbackwifi said :)
[09:37] <Computech> ye i know
[09:37] <bullgard4> What file stores the values which are displayed if I run '~$ echo $PATH'?
[09:37] <bustaplz> it looked like the same file
[09:38] <wartalke1> when i compile the 2.26.27 kernel, how to include the iwl3945 driver for the wireless ?
[09:38] <blankthemuffin_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587786 This is the problem I'm having, as you can see the last post is my own, when I first installed ubuntu on this machine. It was fixed with the drivers from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download however I can't install the package on intrepid, it complains that the modules it tries to unload are in use.  Hang on I'll run it again to give you exact output.
[09:41] <ionte> jim_p: ok, thanks! i'll have to reboot now and try
[09:42] <outbackwifi> kitcat: what is your problem?
[09:43] <IcyPolecat> kitcat: gimp will suffice for most image manipulation needs
[09:43] <blankthemuffin_> idyllic, the unload output looks alittle like this: http://pb.luahelp.net/1224
[09:44] <jonathan_> hello!
[09:44] <jim_p> hi
[09:44] <jonathan_> i've a question to konqueror
[09:44] <jonathan_> about
[09:44] <jonathan_> sorry
[09:44] <kuthux> how to view a package's dependencies ?
[09:44] <jonathan_> is it possible to mount devices via konqueror?
[09:45] <soundray> kuthux: apt-cache depends packagename
[09:45] <jonathan_> i was using dolphin right now and there was a menu for that
[09:45] <kuthux> thx soundray i'll try
[09:45] <outbackwifi> jonathan_: ask in #kubuntu
[09:45] <soundray> kuthux: to see reverse dependencies, use apt-cache showpkg
[09:46] <idyllic> blankthemuffin_: try make uninstall then repeat the proces?
[09:46] <jonathan_> in kubuntu, no one is answering ^^
[09:46] <blankthemuffin_> That fails too idyllic.
[09:46] <PillowSoft> Hey guys
[09:46] <soundray> !hi | PillowSoft
[09:47] <blankthemuffin_> idyllic, It also fails in a recovery console, runlevel 3
[09:47] <idyllic> blankthemuffin_: did you tried reboot after each try?
[09:47] <outbackwifi> blankthemuffin_: an lsmod will tell you which modules are using the modules you want to unload. unload those modules first
[09:48] <bonk> hey.. is there a fix for the constant crashing of firefox when entering flash sites?
[09:48] <bullgard4> What file stores the values which are displayed if I run '~$ echo $PATH'?
[09:48] <torgrim> yes. remove flask bonk ;)
[09:48] <torgrim> flash
[09:48] <blankthemuffin_> I'll give that a go outbackwifi.
[09:48] <outbackwifi> blankthemuffin_: for eg you will see somthing like this --> libusual               18340  1 usb_storage  . This means that usb_storage is being used by libusasl
[09:48] <soundray> bonk: make sure you haven't got a competing flash plugin, like gnash
[09:48] <kbrosnan> bonk: you can try flash 10, but you'ed need to install it manually
[09:48] <PillowSoft> ya one of the packages is bad
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> bullgard4: .bashrc, either in ~ or /etc
[09:48] <torgrim> bonk: on my computer the flash pages crash if i use flashblocker addon
[09:49] <SlimeyPete> $PATH is set via an 'export' command
[09:49] <soundray> bullgard4: there are various places where this can be set: /etc/environment, /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[09:49] <PillowSoft> bonk what packages did you install for flash?
[09:49] <outbackwifi> bullgard4: you can set the path system wide in /etc/profile
[09:49] <soundray> outbackwifi: then it will apply only to shells (bullgard4)
[09:49] <Guest44289> hiya , if i would like to install a programme which folder do i install it into ?
[09:49]  * delcoyote hi
[09:50] <kitcat> guys anyone with ideas as to which software can decrease the size of a JPEG photo
[09:50] <soundray> Guest44289: you normally leave that decision to the package you are installing. Ubuntu packages have pre-defined locations.
[09:50] <soundray> Guest44289: what are you trying to install?
[09:50] <outbackwifi> soundray: yes, unless we know what the OP wants to set path for, we wont know what to suggest ;)
[09:50] <kitcat> in ubuntu?
[09:50] <bonk> PillowSoft: I installed libflashsupport
[09:50] <outbackwifi> kitcat: gimp
[09:51] <kitcat> scanned some images and the size are too big to be attached cause I have several which i need to send as an attachment
[09:51] <PillowSoft> Bonk: thats the only one?
[09:51] <bonk> iirc yep
[09:51] <kitcat> any assistance would be great
[09:51] <soundray> kitcat: use gimp to do it interactively, or mogrify from the imagemagick package for batch processing.
[09:52] <outbackwifi> kitcat: you dont seem to be reading responses. Someone else also suggested gimp and yet you asked the same question again. Please try it out with gimp and then tell us if it doesnt work
[09:52] <soundray> kitcat: set cubic interpolation to have the least quality loss
[09:52] <PillowSoft> bonk; When i installed the flash plugins i installed 3 and one of them made firefox crash
[09:52] <wartalke1> how to set wireless driver to iwl3945, when compile kernel
[09:53] <PillowSoft> Bonk: but i didnt use that package so idk if its the problem i would just unistall it and use another one
[09:53] <malcolm_> okay .... i donwloaded a file and selected extract here and then it installs in my directory but im not to sure i want that ?
[09:53] <soundray> wartalke1: why are you compiling a kernel?
[09:53] <bonk> oh flashplugin-nonfree was also installed
[09:54] <soundray> malcolm_: normally, you want to avoid installing software in this way. Use an Ubuntu package instead and install it with synaptic or apt-get. What are you installing?
[09:54] <PillowSoft> You normally use ./ when installing however you can just use the package installer that comes with Ubuntu under systems
[09:54] <wartalke1> soundray: i want to install aircrack, the kernel should update to 2.6.26
[09:55] <PillowSoft> Bonk: i think it was that one that was bugged
[09:55] <bonk> alright, so it's ok to remove?
[09:55] <PillowSoft> ya
[09:56] <PillowSoft> I should boot Ubuntu while i give advice so i can figure out the names of stuff.
[09:57] <soundray> bonk: no, you shouldn't remove flashplugin-nonfree
[09:57] <bonk> ok
[09:58] <stian> apo
[09:58] <PillowSoft> Sorry bonk guess i dont know what im talking about :P
[09:58] <soundray> bonk: check whether you have gnash installed, and if so, remove that. Then restart firefox and see if it is still crashing.
[09:58] <soundray> malcolm_: what are you installing?
[09:59] <soundray> kitcat: still here?
[09:59] <talntid> mmm... taco bell...
[09:59] <bonk> gnash is unchecked in synap
[09:59] <Ademan> hey what should i do if there's no cd in my cd tray and yet gvfs still thinks it's mounted, right clicking on it and choosing unmount doesn't do anything/errors (no media in drive) and even using a paperclip to manually eject the tray doesn't work
[10:00] <bonk> the oddity is that it sometimes crashes sometimes works in flash
[10:00] <smart_> Hello
[10:00] <soundray> bonk: in firefox, open about:plugins as the URL and see if you have enabled any flash plugins other than libflashplayer.so
[10:00] <zer0o> hi is it possible to change an icon in the icontray?
[10:02] <praed> why the f cant the live cd have a way to get to a normal grub command line?
[10:02] <bullgard4> soundray: ":~$ echo $PATH; /home/detlef/.bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" I found your answer correct: The first entry stems from ~/.bashrc. The rest entries stem from /etc/environment. In what file should I add an entry '/home/detlef/bin' so that it will become permanent?
[10:02] <praed> why does it have to totally remove and real grub functionality?
[10:02] <Ademan> praed: doesn't f6 let you do that?...
[10:02] <blanktheserver> outbackwifi, thanks, that loaded the drivers, but it seems that they don't work in intrepid anyway, wifi device is detected, but it doesn't detect any wireless networks.
[10:02] <praed> no
[10:02] <praed> just what to passt o the kernel
[10:03] <praed> and esc goes to only being able to select where the kernel is
[10:03] <bonk> soundray: yeah "FutureSplash Player", so delete?
[10:03] <soundray> bonk: yes
[10:03] <praed> when you get a bios that doesnt map the cdrom correctly then your screwed
[10:03] <divinesoul> ppl can someone help me with my sound issue i am not at all getting the sound output at all
[10:04] <praed> your suppose to map stuff work better together, not mod it so it only works with your stuff
[10:04] <soundray> bullgard4: probably in ~/.bashrc unless you want this for any other user than yourself
[10:05] <bullgard4> soundray: No, it is only for me as an ordinary user. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[10:05] <shredder12> soundray: when i did about:plugins it showed me that i have 2 flash players enabled..1) shockwave flash 2) futuresplash player..do i have to delete or disable one of them..
[10:05] <soundray> praed: please use appropriate language in this channel. The reason is that the live CDs do not use grub.
[10:06] <jin> is there any advantage for me to install the Ubuntu 64bit version? my cpu is a C2D. here is what I do on my computer: video encoding, php programming, run virtual machines with virtual machine for testing, and ofcourse, the usual stuff like watching movie, youtube, chatting, etc.
[10:06] <blanktheserver> You can easialy get a grub line from a live cd.
[10:06] <divinesoul> any help with my sound issue i upgraded the kernel after that i dont have any sound
[10:06] <soundray> shredder12: only if you have problems with firefox crashing, flash not working etc.
[10:07] <soundray> blanktheserver: how? The CDs do not use grub
[10:07] <wartalke1> how to see the time of build for a  file
[10:07] <kuthux> soundray what cd do u use? live cd or alternate ?
[10:07] <blanktheserver> soundray, You can still load one after you boot the livecd.
[10:07] <firefoxub> hi guys how do i upgrade my mozilla firefox every time i try to log into hotmail i get warning upgrade your firefox
[10:07] <wartalke1>  how to see the time of build of a  file
[10:07] <soundray> kuthux: why do you ask?
[10:08] <kuthux> soundray, what cd do u use? live cd or alternate ?
[10:08] <shredder12> divinesoul: well upgrading the kernel gave plenty of problems too.. my wired network interface just disappeared..so i think its better for you to switch back to the older version..where you are not gonna have any problem..
[10:08] <soundray> kuthux: why do you ask?
[10:08] <IcyPolecat> anyone know how to hardcode DNS servers to prevent network manager from setting them?
[10:08] <divinesoul> shredder12,  how do i switch back to the old kernel
[10:08] <Er-Gladiatore> supradin
[10:08] <kuthux> soundray why?
[10:09] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: edit /etc/resolv.conf to specify dns
[10:09] <kuthux> soundray live cd & alternate act differently when u boot it
[10:09] <shredder12> divinesoul: when the grub screen loads at he time of power on..press Esc there you will find several options showing different kernel versions of ubuntu..
[10:09] <soundray> kuthux: I haven't asked for help
[10:09] <shredder12> divinesoul: as far a i know the new version is 2.6.24-21 and the older one is 2.6.24-19 which will be third from the top in the menu list..
[10:10] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: have done that but it gets overridden as part of my DHCP config by network manager
[10:10] <divinesoul> i have a dual os setup with windows so i already see the option let me check it
[10:10] <divinesoul> i willl log back in shortly shredder
[10:10] <shredder12> ok..
[10:11] <soundray> blanktheserver: I see what you mean. You cannot boot a system via the grub command line from inside the CD, though. I think that's what the original poster was looking for.
[10:11] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: does NM lose the settings if you specify them in the NM DNS tab also?
[10:11] <blanktheserver> soundray, ah ok. I just figured he was probably trying to repair a grub install.
[10:11] <IcyPolecat> yup
[10:12] <IcyPolecat> probably broken DHCP but not under my control - have dnsmasq installed and configured so all I need is to force <IP_ADDRESS> in the resolv.conf and have it stay there!
[10:12] <soundray> blanktheserver: that's the problem with people who moan instead of asking a reasoned question. You just can't help them properly
[10:12] <zeitgeist> tnet.org
[10:12] <zeitgeist> oops
[10:12] <kuthux> soundray ok then
[10:13] <pw-toxic> how do i create a directry in the terminal? ;)
[10:13] <blanktheserver> pw-toxic,  mkdir
[10:13] <soundray> pw-toxic: mkdir dirname
[10:13] <pw-toxic> th
[10:13] <pw-toxic> x
[10:13] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: I'm not sure how to stop NM doing that, I guess you could either setup a script to amend resolv.conf, or stop using NM and setup your DHCP client and resolv.conf etc yourself. I tned not to use DHCP though - I use static as I only have about 10 machines on the network.
[10:13] <soundray> !cli > pw-toxic
[10:13] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: and the DHCP server caters for the laptops.
[10:14] <firefoxub> hi guys how do i upgrade my mozilla firefox every time i try to log into hotmail i get warning upgrade your firefox
[10:15] <doggymenz> firefoxub, System->Administration->Update Manager
[10:15] <thiebaude> firefoxub:which firefox are you using?
[10:15] <firefoxub> mozilla firefox
[10:15] <doggymenz> 2.0? 3.0? 3.0.3?
[10:15] <doggymenz> 1.5?
[10:15] <thiebaude> thanks doggymenz
[10:15] <firefoxub> dunno
[10:15] <thiebaude> ok
[10:15] <bullgard4> I changed my file ~/bashrc . What have I to do that the change will become effective?
[10:15] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: ok thanks anyway - I assume there is a hook somewhere that needs to be disabled but jiggered if I can find it :-)
[10:15] <kuthux> soundray there is an option to boot from harddisk when we boot from cd, so we can boot existing system. am i right? cmiiw
[10:16] <zbyszek> hi, can you tell me what is wrong with live usb installation? it seems like everything is ok, but when i see splash screen, it keeps resetting just after a few seconds...
[10:16] <doggymenz> firefoxub, in Firefox there is a Help menu, if you click there and select "About Mozilla Firefox" it tells you
[10:16] <bullgard4> s/bashrc/.bahrc
[10:16] <blanktheserver> kuthux, yes, that will attempt your normal boot process, as if the cd were not there.
[10:16] <shredder12> bullgard4: just execute " source .bashrc " and your job will be done..
[10:16] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: sorry I couldn't be of more help. wonder if you could manually edit /etc/resolv.conf, then set it to read only so that NM can't write to it
[10:16] <soundray> kuthux: yes, but only if the hard disk has a working boot loader
[10:17] <firefoxub> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2008092510 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) Firefox/3.0.3
[10:17] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: worth a try! just not sure how I could do that as am pretty sure NM runs with root privalege
[10:17] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: I suspect you're right.
[10:17] <wild_oscar> is it possible to integrate the new Openoffice 3 in ubuntu - namely, get the usual open/save gnome dialog boxes (with bookmarks, ect)?
[10:17] <zer0o> hi guys! how can i modify, customize the icon of a running application shown on the icon tray? (kubuntu hardy heron 8.0.4 on kde 3.5.9) ??
[10:17] <thiebaude> firefoxub:seems like you got the lastest one
[10:18] <kuthux> soundray / blanktheserver, will it reboot?
[10:18] <firefoxub> yes why i get warning to upgrade when i log into my hotmail i can not write emails
[10:18] <doggymenz> firefoxub, you have 3.0.3 which is the latest version, there are no newer version. i think you should ignore the message on hotmail
[10:18] <bytecode> IcyPolecat:  you could just set up a cronjob to overwrite the NM version with your own if the file is different? it's a little "dirty" but would work.
[10:18] <blanktheserver> kuthux, as I said, it will do what would happen as if the cd were not there.
[10:18] <thiebaude> firefoxub:will you pastebin that
[10:18] <thiebaude> !pastebin
[10:19] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: problem is I need the DNS there at boot time as Postfix starts just after and mucks up if it can't resolve.
[10:19] <doggymenz> also, i recommend gmail (www.gmail.com) which is like hotmail but better, its done by google
[10:19] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: might be possible to force Postfix to use set DNS servers but don't really want to break the whole resolv.conf setup
[10:19] <thiebaude> doggymenz:yea, i use gmail, its great
[10:19] <outbackwifi> IcyPolecat: do you have avahi running? you could tweak that
[10:19] <blanktheserver> thiebaude, you're asking him to pastebin a single line??? If so you're missing the point somewhat.
[10:20] <newfive> how do i access compiz settings in ubuntu?
[10:20] <newfive> i want to create shortcuts for the zoom
[10:20] <thiebaude> blanktheserver:i dont know how the error message looks
[10:20] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: if it's at boot then that would be prior to NM starting? so it should be in place from the overwrite that would have happened prior to shutdown.
[10:20] <IcyPolecat> outbackwifi: erm - hang on ... yes have the avahi-daemon
[10:20] <divinesoul> shredder12,  still it is not working
[10:20] <blanktheserver> newfive, install the package compiz-config-settings-manager or ccsm, not sure but a synaptic search should find it.
[10:20] <Blaise> Can someone please help me debug an problem with my sound, since the last update Firefox crashes on videos, and Songbird complains about GStreamer!
[10:20] <legend2440> doggymenz: to get gmail account do you have to be invited by a member?
[10:21] <bonk> soundray: futuresplash isn't in synaptic nor can it be found in apt-get remove, I did "locate libflash" and maybe it's part of Opera "/usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so" how do I remove this one do you know?
[10:21] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: still, it is a little dirty - I'd prefer a better solution such as disabling NM's dns overwrite in the first place.
[10:21] <doggymenz> legend2440, not anymore, its open for all now
[10:21] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: possibly it may be the case that the old config is still there but the scripts that run to update NM config also restart Postfix - thus breaking heem
[10:21] <legend2440> doggymenz: ok thanks
[10:21] <divinesoul> Blaise,  even i do have the same problem cant find a solution
[10:21] <shredder12> divinesoul: well may be you should try to configure the sound settings a bit now.
[10:21] <divinesoul> can u please guide i am a newbie
[10:22] <outbackwifi> IcyPolecat: look into /etc/avahi and try to tweak hosts
[10:22] <thiebaude> !ask
[10:22] <pw-toxic> i want to open emacs; copy something from that file in my "clipboard" and use something like this in the terminal "ocaml <myClipBoard>"
[10:22] <Blaise> divinesoul: have people here heard about OpenAl Soft, I hear it's better than PulseAudio
[10:22] <outbackwifi> pw-toxic: whats stopping you
[10:22] <pw-toxic> outbackwifi: i dont have a clue how to do this :D
[10:22] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: lol - that's a pain! There must be a solution. wonder if it's worth looking at the NM source to look for switches?
[10:22] <pw-toxic> outbackwifi: the butter should be able to have more than one line.. probably some pages
[10:23] <divinesoul> when i try to test the sound i get this messahe
[10:23] <divinesoul> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.
[10:23] <pw-toxic> butter = buffer = clipboard
[10:23] <doggymenz> divinesoul, sound card?
[10:23] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: and wading through the source is just how I want to spend my morning :)
[10:23] <shredder12> divinesoul: well its try different options in System->preferences->sound earlier even i was having problems with the sound..trying differnet options in it..worked..may be you should try ..
[10:23] <outbackwifi> pw-toxic: you almost had me there
[10:23] <IcyPolecat> outbackwifi: not sure what I'm looking for - will need to read up on avahi tbh
[10:23] <blanktheserver> Hey, I'm wondering if there is a way to manually set the driver to use ( for onboard wifi ) The one which comes with ubuntu is bugged for my intel n card, and it needs the iwl4965. On previous versions I simply installed these drivers: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download I've loaded the drivers, but it seems that they don't work in intrepid anyway, wifi device is detected, but it doesn't detect any wireless networks.
[10:24] <newfive> i searched for compizconfig-settings-manager in synaptic search but its not there, i installed ubuntu through wubi, is it missing the compiz settings?
[10:24] <outbackwifi> !avahi
[10:24] <outbackwifi> !info avahi
[10:24] <outbackwifi> !info avahi-daemon
[10:24] <newfive> how can i zoom, what's the shortcut to zoom
[10:24] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: lol - bread and butter for me - PHP/Postgres/SQL etc... oh well - good luck ;-)
[10:24] <soundray> blanktheserver: there is a blacklist for preventing drivers from loading automatically. Is that what you are looking for?
[10:25] <pw-toxic> outbackwifi: so you gonna tell me how to copy and paste in terminal ? ;)
[10:25] <outbackwifi> newfive: it should be in System=Preferences
[10:25] <divinesoul> shredder12,  is there a way to remove all the sound configuration files so that i can reset the sound card fully
[10:25] <blanktheserver> Nope soundray, I just want some drivers which work. :P
[10:25] <outbackwifi> pw-toxic: ctl+insert for copy and shift+insert for paste
[10:25] <blanktheserver> newfive, search for compiz config. Make sure you update your sources first. If that fails you might not have whatever repository the manager resides in enabled ( probably universe )
[10:25] <divinesoul> i tried changing the setting too shredder12
[10:25] <soundray> blanktheserver: are you on intrepid now?
[10:25] <shredder12> divinesoul: well i don't have much idea reagarding it..
[10:26] <blanktheserver> yes soundray.
[10:26] <outbackwifi> newfive: you are looking for ccsm (compiz config settings manager)
[10:26] <shredder12> divinesoul: may be you are having trouble due to something else..
[10:26] <outbackwifi> !intrepid|blantheserver
[10:26] <soundray> blanktheserver: please try #ubuntu+1 then, as #ubuntu is strictly for released versions
[10:26] <blanktheserver> Yes I know this soundray.
[10:26] <Ben_Cs> hello. Can remastersys be used to make my ubuntu cd with installation ability (and not only livecd)?
[10:26] <Blaise> Is there a way to install OpenAL Soft on Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:26] <newfive> all i get is compizconfig-backend-gconf
[10:27] <newfive> outbackwifi: yes i am looking for compiz config settings manager but can't find it
[10:27] <pw-toxic> outbackwifi: well this shortcut works but it is very slow..    the <insert> key is on the right top corner of my keyboard :D
[10:27] <soundray> blanktheserver: why do you still ask here, then?
[10:27] <blanktheserver> And this problem, as I said, has been prevalent in versions above 7.10
[10:27] <soundray> !ccsm > newfive
[10:28] <soundray> blanktheserver: no, there isn't a problem in any version up to hardy blacklisting a default driver and loading the one you want instead.
[10:28] <soundray> !blacklist > blanktheserver
[10:28] <legend2440> divinesoul: in terminal try       aplay -l              to see if your sound card is being recognized
[10:28] <divinesoul> shredder12,  is there a way to reset the total setting to factory default
[10:29] <bonk> does anyone know how to remove futuresplash firefox plugin? it's not in SPM nor found in apt-get remove..
[10:30] <shredder12> divinesoul: hey i don't think that you need to do it..just try posting your problem in some forums..or search for it a bit..
[10:30] <soundray> bonk: you must have installed it from within firefox, so that's how you remove it, too.
[10:30] <taner_c> hi
[10:30] <shredder12> divinesoul: restoring to factory default..should be you last option..
[10:30] <legend2440> divinesoul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:30] <bytecode> IcyPolecat, does this sound like the solution you're looking for? some one has a workaround:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/91890
[10:32] <bonk> soundray: like preferences->addons->plugins?
[10:33] <soundray> bonk: could be
[10:34] <shredder12> bonk: well i think its actually the Tools->addons->plugins..
[10:34] <shredder12> bonk: there you will get options to disable as well as remove it..
[10:34] <ce023> hi
[10:35] <bonk> yeah.. wish it was there though :)
[10:36] <soundray> I am trying to interface to MySQL from gnumeric on feisty. libgda2 is installed, but gnumeric says "Invalid expression" when I try to use =execSQL(). Is this enabled in any later version of Ubuntu?
[10:37] <soundray> bonk: what's the filename for futuresplash? It should say on the about:plugins page
[10:38] <kuthux> m
[10:38] <bonk> soundray: it says libflashplayer.so
[10:39] <soundray> bonk: the futuresplash one?
[10:39] <Blaise> My sound is borked!
[10:39] <pierre_> hello everybody
[10:39] <soundray> bonk: I see what you mean. We've been barking up the wrong tree.
[10:39] <Guest69251> i got msg  password authentication failed for user "postgres"
[10:40] <bonk> hehe..
[10:40] <pierre_> i'm trying to install ubuntu server 8.04 and i'm experiencing issues with my keyboard
[10:40] <Blaise> When I change Devices in my Sound Preferences to ALSA I get audiotestsrc wave=sine freq-512 ! audioconvert ! auidoresample ! gconfaudiosinl: Could not gett/set settings from/on resource.
[10:40] <bonk> there is only one filename and two flash plugins in about:plugins
[10:41] <shredder12> pierre_: what sort of trouble??
[10:41] <outbackwifi> pierre_: what issues are those?
[10:41] <darkbishop> !compiz
[10:41] <Blaise> Sound preferences now freezes on me
[10:41] <soundray> bonk: how many sections are there in your about:plugins page? (A section being one that starts with a headline like "Shockwave Flash" and ends with that grey table.
[10:41] <soundray> )
[10:41] <darkbishop> do installing compiz is a good idea?
[10:41] <Guest69251> anybody help me to clear the message
[10:41] <bonk> says "File name: libflashplayer.so (newline) Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124" and that's all
[10:42] <IcyPolecat> sorted it! turns out the resolvconf package was causing issues as was dhcp and (possibly) avahi - made the resolv.conf file readonly (very read only) and also changed some of the hooks in /etc/dhcp3/ and removed resolvconf package and it seems to be happy
[10:42] <soundray> bonk: there should be at least one other section with a title of "Default Plugin".
[10:42] <outbackwifi> IcyPolecat: glad that it worked out
[10:42] <soundray> darkbishop: compiz-fusion is installed by default on hardy.
[10:42] <legend2440> Blaise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:42] <bonk> soundray: yeah, that is empty
[10:43] <pierre_> my keyboard is doesn't work after i select "Install ubuntu server"
[10:43] <soundray> bonk: *how many* of these sections do you have?
[10:43] <pierre_> i checked in the BIOS and USB legacy support is Enabled
[10:43] <bullgard4> soundray: Once again, thank you very much for your help. It works now as I expected.
[10:43] <outbackwifi> pierre_: what kind of keyboard is it? and what is the server hardware
[10:43] <soundray> pierre_: try to disable USB legacy support
[10:44] <soundray> bullgard4: glad it works
[10:44] <pierre_> it is an ACER usb keyboard provided with the PC
[10:44] <pierre_> ok soundray
[10:45] <bonk> soundray: here is a snap http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashnh9.jpg
[10:45] <pierre_> outbackwifi: i'm trying to install it on an aspire m5641
[10:46] <outbackwifi> pierre_: ok
[10:46] <soundray> bonk: that doesn't show what I need to see. Can you highlight the entire page and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[10:46] <xnv> Is there a menu somewhere that lets you make resizing draw a frame and doesn't resize anything until you've released the mouse button?
[10:48] <bonk> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/58741/
[10:49] <pierre_> soundray: i tried to disable usb legacy support and it's worse, i'm not able to choose the language anymore
[10:49] <pierre_> but in fact i'v got 2 options
[10:49] <shredder12> pierre_ : what options?
[10:49] <soundray> xnv: open gconf-editor, go to /apps/metacity/general and tick the box for "reduced resources"
[10:49] <pierre_> Legacy USB support and USB keyboard legacy support
[10:49] <pierre_> and also USB mouse legacy support, but i don't think it's relevant for now
[10:50] <xnv> soundray: That appears to do more than just change resizing
[10:50] <soundray> pierre_: I had an Acer laptop once, and I had to fiddle with these settings to make Ubuntu install. Can't remember what I set it to, sorry. But I'd keep playing with this
[10:50] <soundray> xnv: that's the best I can offer
[10:50] <pierre_> ok, thanks anyway
[10:51] <redheat> hi everyone\
[10:51] <tnl2k7> Lol, all the joining and leaving must drive you people mental
[10:51] <digitaldoll> I have an AC97 sound card and get this error when running recordmydesktop from the terminal: Couldn't open PCM device hw:0  Error while opening/configuring soundcard hw:0,0
[10:51] <xnv> soundray: Is that change supposed to take effect immediately, or only after an X restart?
[10:52] <error404notfound> I have deployed apt-proxy on a ubuntu 8.04 LTS, and when try to do apt-get update on gutsy machine using that machine as server, I get "bad header line"
[10:52] <soundray> xnv: should work after restarting metacity
[10:53] <bonk> soundray: if the text is unclear here's the image: http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashlf8.jpg
[10:53] <redheat> folks I have problem with hardy heron, the wireless adapter, in my case a belkin wireless adapter won't connect to my wireless network, the device is already visible, but it just won't connect, it detect my network and it keeps asking me about my network password, no matter how many times I write it, it won't connect, I'm using a WPA security system. Can anyone help me with this problem please?
[10:53] <redheat> hardy heron is 8.04 right? or is it gutsy gibbon?
[10:53] <redheat> the latest version anyway
[10:54] <redheat> 8.04
[10:54] <soundray> bonk: can't see any conflicts, so that's not the problem, sorry.
[10:54] <chri1> Hey, I installed ubuntu 8 and had some probs and want to reinstall from the cd.  How do I boot from the CD in Ubuntu?
[10:54] <bonk> ok
[10:54] <bonk> I'll check the ubuntu forums
[10:55] <Chousuke> chri1: you'll need to set your BIOS to boot from the CD
[10:55] <Chousuke> chri1: then just boot the machine with the CD in the tray
[10:55] <redheat> can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:55] <chri1> when I had vista on here, i hit f2 to get into the bios, but now, when i reboot ubuntu and hit f2, it just does a normal restart into ubuntu
[10:55] <rogan> whats that?
[10:55] <legend2440> digitaldoll: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-recordmydesktop/+bug/208139
[10:55] <kuthux> !ask
[10:56] <Chousuke> chri1: :/
[10:56] <soundray> chri1: you should hit F2 before you get to the grub menu
[10:56] <redheat> folks, can anyone help me please?
[10:56] <kuthux> !ask redheat
[10:56] <kuthux> !ask | redheat
[10:56] <redheat> I did kuthux..I did ask
[10:56] <digitaldoll> thanks legend2440  :-)
[10:56] <chri1> so, im in ubuntu.  click restart.  then immediatly start hitting f2?  i thought i tried that,but ill try again.  :)   thanks, i may be back.
[10:57] <Chousuke> chri1: try esc or del too :p
[10:57] <kuthux> redheat: so what's the prob
[10:57] <Chousuke> or f10
[10:57] <chri1> k
[10:57] <Chousuke> maybe f2 was something vista-specific.
[10:57] <digitaldoll> dude that is a bitchx script for freebsd
[10:57] <Chousuke> though it shouldn't be
[10:57] <soundray> redheat: wait 10 minutes. If you still don't get a reply, repeat or (better) rephrase your question
[10:57] <xnv> soundray: Didn't work
[10:58] <soundray> xnv: no, didn't do anything here, either (only removed animations)
[10:58] <redheat> ok, if you rolled up the main chat you'll find my question..it's a long one..yet again..my wireless USB network adapter won't connect to my wireless network..don't know why, no matter how many times I supply the password it just won't connect..
[10:58] <soundray> xnv: are you actually using metacity?
[10:58] <redheat> the device is seen properly but it won't connect, and it does see my wireless network..
[10:58] <IcyPolecat> redheat: first thing can you remove (temporarily) your encryption? See if the wireless is working at all?
[10:58] <darkbishop_> !compaz
[10:58] <xnv> soundray: I'm using whatever Gnome uses
[10:58] <darkbishop_> !compiz
[10:59] <redheat> it working, because I'm talking to you from my laptop which is connected to my wireless network..
[10:59] <soundray> xnv: gnome can use either metacity or compiz. Compiz gets enabled when you turn Visual Effects on.
[10:59] <IcyPolecat> redheat: or set up another router or laptop - we need to determine if it's the driver for the wireless nic or WPA supplicant
[10:59] <rogan> * claps
[11:00] <IcyPolecat> redheat: I don't mean to verify the router as I'm sure that's fine :-) Just want to test the belkin without encryption first as there are many many layers to wireless config and we can remove some of them first by doing some simple tests
[11:00] <sajt> Hello, Why changing the session id if a user logged in?
[11:00] <soundray> xnv: what's set in System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual effects?
[11:01] <xnv> soundray: I'm not using Compiz
[11:01] <soundray> xnv: okay
[11:01] <redheat> icy, there is no problem with my router..it works perfectly fine with my other three devices connected to it, my iphone, my ps3 and my laptop..and I have 5 operating systems running on my desktop which is connected to my wireless dapter and they're all working fine, I have windows xp pro, windows vista business, mandrivaone, and opensuse11, and ubuntu..but it's ubuntu that is giving me a hard tiem
[11:01] <bytecode> IcyPolecat:  I found another solution to your DNS issue whilst you were away, don't know whether you'd find it preferable : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/91890
[11:01] <redheat> *time
[11:01] <sajt> sorry
[11:01] <soundray> xnv: it seems that metacity isn't configurable in this way. You can use another window manager, but it is a bit of an operation
[11:02] <rogan> red take off the password and see if it works
[11:02] <redheat> you mean you want it open no encryption..
[11:02] <rogan> yes..
[11:02] <xnv> soundray: Yeah, nevermind then. I know Compiz can do it, but it's not worth its instability.
[11:02] <nuno_nunes> HI PPL
[11:02] <IcyPolecat> bytecode: thx - have already done the prepend trick as found it somewhere else - hope they fix the "bug" for Intrepid
[11:03] <soundray> xnv: you could try icewm, I think that's more configurable
[11:03] <bytecode> IcyPolecat: glad you found a solution
[11:03] <pierre_> i'm back, i found a PS2 keyboard and it's not working either
[11:03] <xnv> soundray: I like Gnome
[11:03] <soundray> !info icewm-gnome-support | xnv
[11:03] <soundray> xnv: it works with gnome ^^
[11:03] <xnv> soundray: That doesn't mean it IS Gnome
[11:04] <IcyPolecat> redheat: yeah - I get that. But wireless under ubuntu is tricky enough eithout encryption and it is worthing seeing if the ubuntu machine can connect to an open wireless network first. If it cannot then the problem is most likely the driver. If it can then the problem is with WPA supplicant
[11:04] <xnv> e.g. Gnome works with KDE
[11:04] <soundray> xnv: it is *just* a window manager. You can use it to replace metacity, and you still have gnome.
[11:05] <soundray> xnv: btw, if I remember correctly, it was you who was looking for help here, so don't come across so smartalecky now.
[11:05] <redheat_> ok folks, I'm back again after this brief respite..
[11:05] <rogan> and?
[11:06] <redheat_> now my network is open and I had to restart my desktop
[11:06] <redheat_> just give me a couple of seconds
[11:06] <xnv> soundray: You're implying that if I install WM, nothing will change except how windows are handled under the hood. I think that's the wrong impression to give, which is why I'm being "smartalecky"
[11:07] <ikonia> xnv: then don't be smart alecky and advise/discuss the issue
[11:07] <soundray> xnv: what I am implying is indeed correct. If you think that that is wrong, you should go and try it out before you second-guess me.
[11:08] <rogan> ^
[11:08] <redheat_> rogan, icy, I'm still waiting for the network to showup on my adapter's list
[11:08] <IcyPolecat> redheat_: ok
[11:09] <redheat_> icy, rogan, it is trying to connect and those two swriling circles..but nothing..
[11:09] <pierre_> i've got a problem during the install of ubuntu server 8.04 on an acer aspire m5641, my keyboard is not working anymore after the kernel is loaded, i tried with usb and PS2 keyboards
[11:09] <rogan> status bar?
[11:09] <redheat_> stil trying...
[11:09] <redheat_> nope
[11:10] <rogan> networks up though?
[11:10] <redheat_> no status bar, just the two greyed out swirling circles..
[11:10] <redheat_> and now an orange triangle..
[11:10] <redheat_> didn't connect
[11:10] <kuthux> redheat_: how about iwevent output ?
[11:10] <redheat_> what's that kuthux?
[11:10] <aaron_> !pastebin
[11:11] <kuthux> type iwevent on terminal, it shows events happened in wireless adapter.
[11:11] <redheat_> icy, rogan, and kuthux, can I now enable security
[11:11] <user___> 有人用中文马？
[11:11] <redheat_> roger
[11:11] <Guest56609> hello, I have a USB 2.0 stick 4GBs f and it gets detected in Win XP Pro SP2 but it doesn't get detected on Ubuntu 8.04 nor in 7.10 for some reason. I added the 'mount
[11:11] <aaron_> this is very frustrating...I wan to use openoffice3............someone please help......    http://paste.ubuntu.com/58749/
[11:11] <Guest56609> applet
[11:11] <IcyPolecat> redheat_: don't see why not
[11:11] <Guest56609> but it doesn't appear
[11:11] <Guest56609> please help me!
[11:12] <Guest56609> what can I do for it to get detected and I could mount it???
[11:12] <redheat_> ok I just typed iwevent and it's telling "waiting for wireless events from all interfaces"
[11:12] <redheat_> and nothing after that
[11:13] <rogan> did you install a driver for your adapter
[11:13] <kuthux> redheat_: let it be like that, now try to re-connect
[11:13] <kuthux> redheat_: the event then will be shown
[11:13] <xn1> soundray: Ok, you were wrong. It changed pretty much the entire Desktop.
[11:13] <redheat_> nope, it is one of those generic x72 something drivers that come preinstalled with ubuntu
[11:14] <Slade13> anyone??
[11:14] <soundray> xn1: I wasn't wrong. You didn't configure it the way it should be configured to work with gnome.
[11:14] <redheat_> rogan, icyPoleCat, Kuthux..I'll have to go offline to reenable security to hang on guys
[11:14] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: what do you get if you run dmesg in a console session after plugging the device in
[11:14] <recon69>  aaron_: I take it you have checked it there is a required version for java from openoffice 3
[11:15] <aaron_> no I have not....how do I proceed?  that does give me a clue
[11:15] <xn1> soundray: That's not the way you presented it, and that's what I was disagreeing with. Anyway, enough time wasted. Lets move on.
[11:15] <soundray> xn1: the problem is now that you set out not to solve your issue, but to prove me wrong. That is a waste of my time, so I'll stop responding to you now. There are plenty of people here who are more deserving.
[11:15] <aaron_> how do I check my java version
[11:16] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, I'll pastebin it
[11:16] <kuthux> aaron_:  java -version
[11:16] <recon69> aaron_: first read the install docs for openoffice with regard to requirements
[11:16] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: thx
[11:16] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, http://pastebin.ca/1229242
[11:16] <Slade13> there
[11:17] <aaron_> is there a way to upgrade java from sudo apt-get.......or do I have to do it manually
[11:17] <IcyPolecat> Slade1
[11:17] <darkbishop_> i got a problem with my compiz...
[11:17] <darkbishop_> can anyone help...
[11:17] <rogan> what is it
[11:17] <darkbishop_> how do i change it back to default.
[11:18] <farciarz84> good tool for making a www-page graphic design?
[11:18] <aaron_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/58752/
[11:18] <farciarz84> ubuntu
[11:19] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: ah ... probably an issue with the hi speed usb module can you try unplugging device and running the following: sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[11:19] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: then plug it in again and see what happens
[11:19] <rogan> just take off the effects?
 ok
[11:19] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, ok
[11:19] <darkbishop_> myfriend on YM want to let me view her webcam... what kind of chat client that i can use to view her webcam???
[11:20] <redheat> kuthux, rogan, icyPoleCat, are you still there folks..I've just reenabled security again..now check this out..that iwevent command gave me back a reply
[11:20] <kuthux> darkbishop_: try kopete
[11:20] <rogan> !pastebin
[11:20] <IcyPolecat> redheat: pastebin it plz
[11:20] <darkbishop_> kuthux, ok i try
[11:20] <magnetron> kuthux→ have you used webcam on the yahoo network in kopete?
[11:20] <farciarz84> do U know good tool for making a www-page graphic design with Ubuntu?
[11:20] <kuthux> farciarz84: yes
[11:21] <redheat> rogan..I can't paste it unto pastebin, for the obvious reason..my desktop is not connected..
[11:21] <soundray> !html > farciarz84
[11:21] <mick02> Morning/afternoon folks
[11:21] <IcyPolecat> redheat: DOH! sorry any whay to get it to your laptop? USB key etc?
[11:21] <mick02> Just wondiering if anyone ehre has any experience setting up an SSH Tunnel
[11:21] <IcyPolecat> mick02: what's the problem?
[11:21] <redheat> good idea I have usb key..awesome..
[11:21] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, IT WORKED  THANKS A LOOTTTTT MAN you saved me... Thank you very much!!!
[11:22] <_moro_bana_> hello, new restore installation of windows never goes to the final stage, with UBUNTU-it installs but fails to boot.with my older installs , only ubuntu is working while windows doesnt boot. i took the hdd to the other computer and it worked well.could this be a hardware problem?
[11:22] <soundray> !cookie | IcyPolecat
[11:23] <tyberion> hey guys, how can I find out which unix version is running ?
[11:23] <mick02> IctPolecat I'm in work and the firewall is blocking ALL ports except 80 443 and 8080. I have a Ubuntu server at home that I wanted to tunnel all Google chat traffic from Pidgin through the tunnel to my home server
[11:23] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: good. Now you'll need to add that module to the blacklist to prevent it being loaded at boot time (or you can just run that command everytime)
[11:23] <fenerli7> does anyone know why a mouse would only half work in linux? I've tried with a touchpad and 2 mice and the result is the same: I can move the mouse and the cursor moves as it should but *sometimes*, events such as mouse-over or click or anything besides mouse-move do not register... it is is not lag as I can do the actions with the keyboard fine
[11:23] <fenerli7> I'm asking here as it's happened twice in ubuntu and has never happened in arch linux
[11:23] <mick02> IcyPolecat I'm in work and the firewall is blocking ALL ports except 80 443 and 8080. I have a Ubuntu server at home that I wanted to tunnel all Google chat traffic from Pidgin through the tunnel to my home server
[11:23] <redheat> holy excrements , folks, how to create a text file in ubuntu..?
[11:24] <magnetron> tyberion→ you mean which ubuntu version is running? lsb_release -a
[11:24] <rogan> right click > create new
[11:24] <fenerli7> redheat: in file manager, right click and click create document, or open text editor in accessories
[11:24] <soundray> fenerli7: if you still have Arch, it might be worth checking whether it uses a different mouse driver
[11:24] <IcyPolecat> mick02: ok - you can use ssh -D 8080 user@server to setup a socks 5 tunnel and config your client to use that. Or you can tunnel ports direct - which do you need to do?
[11:24] <farciarz84> soundray: only graphics no code, sth like adobe inDesign and Illustrator
[11:24] <redheat> I created a document under ubuntu but it's not working under vista
[11:24] <fenerli7> soundray: how would I check? xorg.conf?
[11:24] <tyberion> magnetron: i dont know what distribituion, how can i find that out
[11:24] <redheat> yeah but it's all garbled under notepad..
[11:24] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, i dont know how to add module to the black list.. i noob :S
[11:25] <IcyPolecat> redheat: try opening it in wordpad :-)
[11:25] <magnetron> tyberion→ same command
[11:25] <redheat> ok..
[11:25] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: I know - just checking it now
[11:25] <soundray> fenerli7: don't know about arch, could be xorg.conf, if not, you'll have to check the X logs.
[11:25] <redheat> ok thanks icyPoleCat..it's working fine now..
[11:25] <mick02> IcyPolecat I would prefer to tunnel the ports direct
[11:25] <redheat> it's called pastebin.com
[11:25] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, ok
[11:25] <redheat> or is it ?
[11:25] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: ok from a terminal edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:25] <rogan> !patebin
[11:25] <Gooch`> I'm looking to set up a tunnel connection thing to my university with my login and pass. I've managed to connect to sftp via SSH but it's not tunneled. Anyone know of some simple software I can use? I tried gSTM but I keep getting timeout during banner exchange
[11:25] <rogan> oops
[11:26] <fenerli7> soundray: yes, I still have arch, and the mouse config in xorg.conf is the same in both arch's and ubuntu's
[11:26] <rogan> !pastebin
[11:26] <redheat> !pastebin
[11:26] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: and add this line to the end: blacklist ehci_hcd
[11:26] <magnetron> redheat→ once is enough
[11:26] <redheat> thank you folks..
[11:26] <redheat> I'm posting it right now
[11:26] <IcyPolecat> slade13 should do you. Of course I'd take a backup FIRST
[11:26] <soundray> fenerli7: same Driver line in Section "InputDevice"?
[11:26] <mick02> Gooch I'm trying to do something similar myself
[11:26] <farciarz84> kuthux: only graphics no code, sth like adobe inDesign and Illustrator
[11:27] <Venin> how do i allow windows to be moved past the application bar?
[11:27] <_moro_bana_> hello, new restore installation of windows never goes to the final stage, with UBUNTU-it installs but fails to boot.with my older installs , only ubuntu is working while windows doesnt boot. i took the hdd to the other computer and it worked well.could this be a hardware problem?
[11:27] <Buttercup> How do I update to Ubuntu 8.10 without update-manager? My gdm doesn't work anymore, so I wanted to upload to Ubuntu 8.10
[11:27] <tyberion> hmm,magnetron that only works in ubuntu right, because in the workstation im running simultaneously, theres not such a command
[11:27] <soundray> Venin: have you got effects on or off?
[11:27] <fenerli7> soundray: yes, both have synaptics driver for touchpad and mouse driver for the USB mouse
[11:27] <redheat> kuthux, rogan, magnetron, icyPoleCat, I pasted it once, like you said magnetron
[11:27] <Venin> soundray: default install
[11:27] <magnetron> tyberion→ it works in any modern linux distribution
[11:27] <tyberion> magnetron: it aint modern then :D
[11:27] <IcyPolecat> mick02: ok so you'll need to run ssh -L 1234:localhost:5678 username@host where the first port it the local port and the second is the terminting port
[11:27] <magnetron> tyberion→ or it ain't linux
[11:27] <tyberion> magnetron: any ohter way to find out
[11:28] <tyberion> hmm, may be...
[11:28] <rogan> link it red?
[11:28] <soundray> Venin: still could be either. Look up System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects
[11:28] <IcyPolecat> mick02: you can then point your client at <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <kuthux> redheat: where?
[11:28] <redheat> by the way folks, I just posted it
[11:28] <rogan> link us to it
[11:28] <redheat> under the name redheat
[11:28] <redheat> oh ok sorry
[11:28] <redheat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/58753/
[11:28] <magnetron> tyberion→ try uname -a
[11:29] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, either i cant do that... im sorry but thanks for the help..
[11:29] <mick02> IcyPolecat When you say local port are you talking about the port that the software uses ie 5222 for Pidgin or are you talking about one of the ports that is open on the firewall?
[11:29] <redheat> by the way folks, the scane for wireless devices is still going on..it hasn't stopped since I typed iwevent
[11:29] <tyberion> uname -a gives: Linux client 2.6.20 #30 Fri Aug 8 time CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:29] <Venin> soundray: was off.. now set to normal
[11:29] <tyberion> @magnetron
[11:30] <magnetron> tyberion→ are you sure that "lsb_release -d" gives you nothing? please check spelling
[11:30] <IcyPolecat> mick02: the tunnel will go out over port 22 by default so you'll need to configure your router to forward port 8080 on your home IP to port 22 on your server then use:
[11:30] <jcoves> Hi, I have  a problem with JAVA apps and desktop effects. Many windows don't show its contents with desktop effects enabled
[11:30] <redheat> so folks, what you make of this whole scan thing
[11:31] <IcyPolecat> mick02: ssh -p 8080 -L 1234:localhost:5678 username@host
[11:31] <tyberion> lsb_release: command not found
[11:31] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: why not?
[11:31] <soundray> Venin: okay, now that you've set your window manager to be compiz, you have to open gconf-editor and find the key /apps/compiz/plugins/move/allscreens/options/contrain_y and untick the box for it.
[11:32] <magnetron> tyberion→ ok, as it's not ubuntu it's not really question for this channel. but it's obviously linux. i suggest you poke around in the file system until you find something
[11:32] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, because im noobb.. and i cant do that.. i have a friend and he will help me... sure
[11:32] <Buttercup> Did anyone read my question? I have no idea how to ask my questions here, without appearing rude..
[11:32] <Venin> soundray: yeah, ive done that before.. thanks.. what if i use the one without effects? i wanna set it for both options
[11:33] <kuthux> redheat: mine looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/58756/
[11:33] <yeager_> A[A[A[A[A[A[A/SET term_force_colors ON
[11:33] <magnetron> yeager_→ haha
[11:34] <IcyPolecat> Slade13: ok - the terminal can be a bit scary. In the mean time you can just run that command again should you need to - you only need to do it once when you turn your machine on
[11:34] <recon61> redheat: paste the output of "lspci -C network " and "ifconfig"
[11:34] <soundray> Venin: in metacity, you can move past the top by holding Alt and dragging the window.
[11:34] <Venin> no
[11:34] <Venin> or.. wait
[11:34] <IcyPolecat> Buttercup: have you got terminal access?
[11:34] <magnetron> Buttercup→ just asking right out is perfectly fine. if anyone knows the answer, they'll answer. you might try asking again after at least 15 minutes
[11:34] <legend2440> Buttercup: any error message when you run update manager?
[11:35] <Buttercup> yea I do
[11:35] <Gooch`> bugger it
[11:35] <Slade13> IcyPolecat, i understand... its ok
[11:35] <_moro_bana_> Buttercup: sudo apt-get update
[11:35] <Venin> soundray: now i get it.. it WAS set to effects.. so thats why it didnt work before
[11:35] <Venin> altdrag works fine in metacity.. thanks
[11:35] <bazhang> Buttercup, #ubuntu+1 for info on updating to ibex
[11:35] <soundray> Venin: yes, you enabled effects when you set it from Off to Normal
[11:36] <legend2440> Buttercup: what is the error message?
[11:36] <soundray> Venin: Alt-F7 mousemove also works
[11:36] <_moro_bana_> Buttercup: apt-get upgrade
[11:36] <Venin> soundray: yeah.. i meant.. i was sure what the default was.. because i clicked something by accident
[11:36] <Venin> hehe
[11:36] <bazhang> its an error from the latest hardy update; gdm conks out
[11:36] <xmagixx> for some reason i cannot eject my usbkey, by right clicking it, the option isent there anymore ?? i can only choose mount or umount, how do i eject it probely and how do i get the option back into my right click ?
[11:36] <bimberi> zzzzz
[11:37] <Buttercup> I do not have any error messages, just a black screen and nothing more. Just can use the terminal
[11:37] <IcyPolecat> Buttercup: don't know if this will  work before Intrepid is formally released but if you "apt-get install update-manager-core" and then run "do-release-upgrade"
[11:37] <IcyPolecat> Buttercup: but I really can't recommend a beta as a solution to GDM issues - it's not stable
[11:38] <soundray> xmagixx: it's been renamed because most USB memory devices don't physically eject
[11:38] <kuthux> xmagixx: where did u have the option "eject"
[11:38] <scordy> hi
[11:38] <kuthux> i can only eject cdrom lol
[11:38] <xmagixx> soundray: i dont understand quitly what you mean ?
[11:38] <scordy> yes
[11:38] <soundray> xmagixx: once you've umounted, the device is safe to remove.
[11:38] <xmagixx> kuthux: well when i right click, the eject option was below mount , just like when i right click my dvd drive
[11:39] <soundray> xmagixx: so umount serves the same purpose as the former "eject" option
[11:39] <Buttercup> Yea true but I dunno what to do else. No one's able to help without error message of course. I'm going to try your way now
[11:39] <Ste1> Hey
[11:39] <xmagixx> soundray: ohh, weird, not that many days ago i had the ability to choose eject for it, must changed with some update then ??
[11:39] <Ste1> I need advise about user management.
[11:39] <recon61> Buttercup: do you get the boot menu, and if so have you tried booting to cmd line ?
[11:40] <soundray> xmagixx: maybe
[11:40] <mick02> IcyPolecat THe problem I'm having though is that port 22 is blocked by my work firewall so it can't even get as far as my home server
[11:41] <kuthux> xmagixx: just curious, so what happened when u clicked the "eject" ?
[11:41] <Venin> what the point of the keyring wanting to save my wlan pass?
[11:42] <xmagixx> kuthux: well a small pop up at lower right cornor told me that the media was ejected probely and safely to remove
[11:42] <Ste1> I have multiple users but they don't bother to log on/off everythime.
[11:42] <Ste1> so I have 1 home dir, should I create sub dirs inside this home dir, or just tell them to log off when done.
[11:43] <kuthux> xmagixx: interesting..
[11:43] <xmagixx> kuthux: well there was alot of updates last 2 days, so meaby it's changed... now i can only choose mount umount. weird imo
[11:44] <redheat_> rogan, kuthux, icyPolecat and magnetron, are you there guys..
[11:44] <kuthux> xmagixx: well i guess umount will technically do the same thing
[11:44] <redheat_> cause I'm about to bust out of my head because of this problem..
[11:44] <soundray> Ste1: if your users don't play with it, it makes it really hard to manage. You could try to force them into compliance: set a short-delay idle screen lock and explain the terrible consequences of impersonating someone on a computer.
[11:45] <rogan> you left right before they replied to you
[11:45] <kuthux> redheat_: i'm here
[11:45] <recon61> Ste1: well, if this is just one shared computer , use "system->admin->user and groups" create yourself a account and use that, let the rest of them share the other account if they not interest  it having there own
[11:45] <redheat_> the connection got dropped because of that whole security issue
[11:46] <redheat_> the belkin routers are not the most reliable..they have that problem of "if you screwed with their settings" they'll give you hard a time for a while, but they're solid on performance if you let them alone for a long time..it's all working fine now
[11:46] <haosen> ;p
[11:46] <Ste1> ye they can share it, but I'm about to add their documents, so I gues I need to create a dir for each of them in the home dir?
[11:46] <redheat_> folks, before we say anything I just wanna say thank you all ..really I appreciate it so much
[11:46] <redheat_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[11:47] <redheat_> I found the above webpage..would that help..
[11:47] <recon61> well, the home/[username] dir would be better
[11:48] <recon61>  Ste1: home/[username] directory would be better
[11:48] <Ste1> don't understand.
[11:48] <recon61> Ste1: in home each user have a folder that is there username , I login using "mec" username, my home directory is "home/mec"
[11:49] <recon61> Ste1: if you create the dirs in the home dir you will have permission problems
[11:49] <acemo> how do i get the group of my user to have read and write rights on files i upload? (with proftpd)
[11:50] <ikonia> acemo set the umask
[11:50] <acemo> ikonia: i tried that but it seems to ignore that..
[11:50] <ikonia> acemo remember ftp's owner is ftp - not your own
[11:51] <ikonia> acemo: most ftp servers run as the ftp user, not the user logged in
[11:51] <acemo> ikonia: could the ftp server be running as ftp and still create the files with the user as owner?
[11:52] <ikonia> acemo depends on the ftp server, nomrlly yes
[11:52] <acemo> ahh okay
[11:52] <kuthux> how to get v4l2 cam to work with gyachi in hardy ?
[11:53] <IcyPolecat> redheat_: yeah sorry - was on the phone. I'd say working through the steps outlined in that page will be helpful as will https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:53] <acemo> so should i create a home folder for the ftp user so i can make a .profile file or does it works different with ftp, www-data and the like services that don't normally have a home folder?
[11:53] <IcyPolecat> mick02: that's why you need port forwarding on your home router - forward one of the ports allowed out of you work lan to port 22 on your server
[11:57] <^synax> Anyone think they can help me with audio problems, I'm using a USB headset, it worked fine in the Live CD, but now it only seems to work with the login-sound and the test-sound, nothing else seems to work with it, plus ALSA gives off an error when I try using it.
[11:57] <Buttercup> what does "booting to cmd line" mean?
[11:58] <acemo> Buttercup: means you get a nice full screen console
[11:58] <adac> Buttercup, that no graphical interface is loaded only command line
[11:59] <adac> Buttercup, so no nice buttons there :)
[11:59] <Buttercup> like when I press STRG+F2 or something?
[11:59] <rylan> i just installed ubuntu  and im having ytrouble with the resolution its running at 800-400  and i cant change it can anyone help thanks in advance.
[11:59] <rylan> trouble*
[12:00] <adac> rylan, what grafic card do you have?
[12:00] <jafobuntu> hi! how do i make mouse theme changes apply to everything? atm it only works in apps. have restarted X.
[12:00] <rylan> one moment
[12:01] <rylan> intel  82815
[12:01] <fr0d0barkins> !hello > fr0d0barkins
[12:02] <fr0d0barkins> cool
[12:02] <dns53> ^synax  install paman paprefs pavucontrol pavucontrol, once you have the volume control you can select the default output device, you should also set pulse audio to use simultanious output so it will go to all sound cards
[12:03] <fr0d0barkins> dns53: know any independent equalizer ? not integrated with any media player.
[12:03] <adac> rylan, try to enter this command in command line:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:03] <adac> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:03] <^synax> dns53  Thanks, I've got them all installed, where would I select the output device with PulseAudio?
[12:03] <adac> and leave all on default except the resolution
[12:04] <dns53> fr0d0barkins i think if you set everyhing up to use jack you can pipe it through eqalizers and other things, install ubuntu studio to get lots of it
[12:04] <rogan> hows it comin there reheat
[12:04] <fr0d0barkins> dns53: ok
[12:05] <wr> hi
[12:05] <adac> rylan, have you tried the option in system->settings->scrren resolution?
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> how do i cat a file and append its output to another file that requires root privileges in order to be edited?
[12:05] <adac> *scrren resolution
[12:06] <adac> *screen
[12:06] <IcyPolecat> remoteCTR1: sudo cat file1 >> file2
[12:06] <magnetron> remoteCTR1→ use "sudo tee"
[12:06] <remoteCTR1> IcyPolecat: nope?
[12:06] <Venin> is net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 the same as echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?
[12:06] <dns53> ^synax run pulse audio device chooser, select configure local sound server, simultanious output > enable then go to pulse volume control, under output, right click and select simultanious
[12:06] <BlueEagle> IcyPolecat: That should not work.
[12:06] <error404notfound> I have an ubuntu machine which I want to be upgraded every night and then a certain command should be run... how to do I? cron job? but how?
[12:06] <remoteCTR1> magnetron: thanks
[12:06] <dns53> Venin yes
[12:06] <^synax> dsn53, thanks again, I'll try that out.
[12:07] <Venin> dsn, because the latter says permission denied
[12:07] <IcyPolecat> sorry - yup sudo tee - need more coffee this morning
[12:07] <magnetron> !serverguide | error404notfound
[12:07] <Venin> dns53: i mean dns53
[12:07] <Venin> :p
[12:07] <error404notfound> magnetron: thanks
[12:07] <magnetron> error404notfound→ np
[12:07] <remoteCTR1> magnetron: yeah that worked like charms thanks man:)
[12:07] <dns53> error404notfound not a good idea to do, but you could set up a cron job to run apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade,   you will break your system fast doing it
[12:08] <error404notfound> dns53: how?
[12:08] <micka> hey i'm looking for an mkv to 3gp converter there i can choose subtitle- and auidotrack?
[12:08] <Venin> dns53: do i need a reboot after ive changed that net.ipv4.ip_forward=1?
[12:08] <error404notfound> dns53: I have an apt-proxy server, and I want I to make updates available as soon as they are available
[12:08] <dns53> Venin you can use sysctl -w i think
[12:09] <heirenton> People my swapdisk does not mount automatically after restart. What should i do?
[12:09] <Venin> dns53: cat  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward still shows 0
[12:09] <BlueEagle> heirenton: Add it to /etc/fstab
[12:09] <BlueEagle> !fstab | heirenton
[12:09] <micka> hey i'm looking for an mkv to 3gp converter there i can choose subtitle- and auidotrack?
[12:10] <dns53> error404notfound ok, well login as root with sudo -s, then run crontab -e, create a line "0 3 * * * apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" to schedule it at 3:00
[12:10] <Oprtz> i cant see windowsXp shared folder, But i can access windowsXP shared folder (direct access) smb://computer name/share folder, ( why cant ubuntu show me the shared folder ?
[12:10] <heirenton> thanks.
[12:10] <dns53> Venin maybe it was sysctl -w
[12:10] <fr0d0barkins> dns53:  i found one, but haven't try it yet http://www.thedigitalmachine.net/alsaequal.html
[12:11]  * fr0d0barkins now downloading
[12:12] <serg_> hi pls tell me how to start program like xine on second screen without xinerama, thank you
[12:12] <dns53> fr0d0barkins it is definatly an option but i think the jack aproach is better (and more complex) if you are going to be doing anything more complex
[12:12] <Oprtz> i cant see windowsXp shared folder, But i can access windowsXP shared folder (direct access) smb://computer name/share folder, ( why cant ubuntu show me the shared folder ?
[12:12] <fr0d0barkins> dns53: i'll try em all :D
[12:13] <ikonia> Oprtz different work group? nbd not running ?
[12:13] <^synax> dns53, Thanks, it worked perfectly. :)
[12:13] <micka> hey i'm looking for an mkv to 3gp converter there i can choose subtitle- and auidotrack?
[12:13] <adac> Oprtz, you must mount it first to see the folder. have a look at smbmount
[12:14] <ziroday> micka: not sure if It can do mkv to 3gp but avidemux might do the job
[12:14] <axisys> anyone successfully used libiphone to talk to iphone ?
[12:15] <micka> ok tnx i'll check it out right now
[12:15] <NicEXE> how can I install hte no-ip client? the procedure is too difficult for me... (I am on Ubuntu)
[12:15] <Oprtz> ikonia:  Its same workgroup " HOME" my windows machine can see ubuntu shared folders on Nwtwork but ubuntu cant see  windows shared folders, but i can access it directly by smb://pc name/shared folder
[12:15] <Oprtz> beside what is nbd ? i have no idea
[12:15] <ikonia> NicEXE no ip ?
[12:15] <Oprtz> !smbmount
[12:15] <serg_> how to force program to run on second screen, without xinerama?
[12:15] <NicEXE> no-ip (www.no-ip.com)
[12:15] <Oprtz> adac: network smbmount ?
[12:16] <axisys> libiphone is failing.. http://pastebin.com/d488c033a
[12:16] <ikonia> NicEXE: they are tar files, download the tar, and read the README doc
[12:16] <^synax> Last question, why does compiz make my whole desktop slightly blurred, like a loss of quality when effects are being used, such as the cube set to transparent, my whole entire screen looses quality, every window that being.
[12:17] <NicEXE> I can't follow the readme instructions
[12:17] <aaron_> Has anybody ran into problems with OpenOffice Impress?
[12:17] <ikonia> NicEXE what part is not clear
[12:17] <ziroday> aaron_: what are your problems?
[12:17] <ikonia> NicEXE: the no-ip support page http://www.no-ip.com/support/ has information on how to get support
[12:17] <chemjeff> hi
[12:17] <Venin> dns53: you said sysctl -w both times :p
[12:17] <aaron_> The program crashes over and over again.
[12:17] <chemjeff> i have an installation question, anybody up for a q?
[12:18] <error404notfound> I have an apt-proxy server, I just updated it. and then I ran the command to get archives from local /var/apt/cache, but it didn't import any thing, why? here are the config files and the command with its output: http://pastebin.com/m42c37dad
[12:18] <adac> Oprtz, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:18] <ziroday> aaron_: does it crash at startup?
[12:18] <Oprtz> adac: do i need to use this command?  " smbmount //winpc/shared /mnt/share -o rw "
[12:18] <ikonia> chemjeff: just ask
[12:18] <Oprtz> okie dude
[12:18] <adac> Oprtz, yes if you want to mount it not permanently then use this command
[12:18] <aaron_> it crashes when choosing different options within the program....example...running a slideshow.....etc......
[12:18] <aaron_> its very frustrating
[12:18] <Oprtz> adac: i want to mount it permantly,
[12:19] <adac> Oprtz, then this link is your friend dude :)
[12:19] <chemjeff> ok. i'm trying to install ubuntu on an older computer (AMD K6, 500 MHz, 8 GB HD, 384 MB RAM) using the alternative install CD. what tends to happen is that during the installation the CD-ROM drive goes to sleep and seems to unmount on its own, then when the installation tries to access the CD later on, an I/O error occurs. is there a way to keep the CD-ROM drive on throughout the installation?
[12:19] <Oprtz> adac: :) thanks
[12:19] <adac> Oprtz, no problem!
[12:20] <ikonia> chemjeff: check the alternative terminals to see what else is happening
[12:20] <rogan> wow 8gb hd :)
[12:20] <yt-RoR> this part its not working
[12:20] <yt-RoR> <%= Posted<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- Time.now) ago %>
[12:21] <chemjeff> ikonia: i did, i get things like I/O error
[12:21] <ikonia> chemjeff: is it possible it can't read the cd
[12:21] <ikonia> chemjeff: have you verified the CD's contents witht he cd checker tool
[12:21] <chemjeff> ikonia: no because it starts the installation just fine
[12:21] <chemjeff> ikonia: yes the CD is just fine
[12:22] <ikonia> chemjeff: just because it starts it doesn't mean it's fine
[12:22] <aaron_> !pastebin
[12:22] <ikonia> chemjeff: how do you know it's fine ?
[12:22] <chemjeff> ikonia: i did use the CD checker
[12:22] <ikonia> did you check it on that computer ?
[12:22] <chemjeff> yes
[12:22] <ikonia> chemjeff: which check did you run ?
[12:22] <chemjeff> it's just that the CD-ROM drive tends to turn off at some point in the installation
[12:22] <danshtr> Hi all. I need advise. I have slackware 12.1 and I want to replace it with ubuntu. Can someone point me to a document describing this procedure?
[12:23] <chemjeff> ikonia: using the test from the main menu
[12:23] <aaron_> hereis an example.....when I try to insert a picture......           http://paste.ubuntu.com/58765/
[12:23] <ikonia> chemjeff: that normally happens because it can't read the cd
[12:23] <yt-RoR> anyone know why this is not working
[12:23] <yt-RoR> <%= Posted<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- Time.now) ago %>
[12:23] <ikonia> chemjeff: is it possible the drive is faulty
[12:23] <ikonia> yt-RoR: what are you trying to do ?
[12:23] <rogan> istall it on a memory stick
[12:23] <yt-RoR> ikonia: I am trying to mput a time stamp when somone posts a message . .
[12:24] <sdschwarz> Hi! I'm looking for some help with a USB stick installation of Ubuntu 8.10 Beta via unetbootin - I'd like to use the casper-rw file for persistency on the same (single) partition. It drops me to busybox, though. Any idea how to get it booting properly?
[12:24] <ikonia> yt-RoR: thats down to the client your using then, get support from the client doc pages
[12:24] <chemjeff> ikonia: well i guess it is but i can hear the drive turn off during the installation and it's not at a point when it's trying to access the CD
[12:24] <yt-RoR> client doc ?
[12:24] <kenois> danshtr: Basically just backup your data from slackware, and install ubuntu.. I don't see the need for further documentation really, unless it's something specific you're wondering
[12:25] <ikonia> chemjeff: the livecd is squash fs in ram, so if it doesn't need to read the cdrom - it doesn't read it, hence why you hear the spin down
[12:25] <gharz> guys, is there any search command that will search for a file in all the directories?
[12:25] <ikonia> gharz: find
[12:26] <dns53> find . -name filename
[12:26] <ikonia> dns53: find /
[12:26] <chemjeff> ikonia: but it does try to read the CD at various points during the installation right?
[12:26] <ikonia> all directories
[12:26] <ikonia> chemjeff: depends on if it needs to swap (I suspect 300+ meg will need to swap a lot)
[12:26] <xarvh> HI! is there anyway to run TCP/IP over usb between two ubuntu machines?
[12:27] <ikonia> xarvh if you have tcp usb sticks, sure
[12:27] <chemjeff> ikonia: so is there an option i could give to the kernel or somewhere along the way that would force the CD-ROM to stay on?
[12:27] <ikonia> network sticks I mean
[12:27] <ikonia> chemjeff I don't think so as it's not "mounted" in the way your thinking, it's uncompressed into ram,
[12:28] <Dillizar> hows the off topic channel :
[12:28] <chemjeff> hmm
[12:28] <Dillizar> :
[12:28] <ikonia> Dillizar: ask them
[12:28] <Dillizar> who
[12:28] <ikonia> the offtopic channel
[12:28] <Dillizar> the name of the channel
[12:28] <BlueEagle> chemjeff: This is an IDE-cdrom, isn't it? You should try passing the following to the kernel with advanced options: noapic /dev/sdX=cdrom
[12:28] <Dillizar> :D
[12:28] <xarvh> ikonia: what about a cable?
[12:28] <ikonia> Dillizar: ooh #ubuntu-offtyopic
[12:28] <Dillizar> 10x
[12:28] <ikonia> Dillizar: ooh #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <Dillizar> :D
[12:29] <ikonia> xarvh: you'll need a cross over cable, yes
[12:29] <chemjeff> BlueEagle: would it be /dev/sd0?
[12:29] <chemjeff> or literally X?
[12:29] <sdschwarz> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 Beta via unetbootin on a USB stick. I also created the casper-rw file on the same partition. When booting with "persistent", it drops me to busybox. Any idea how I can boot it properly? Couldn't find any info on the web.
[12:29] <ikonia> BlueEagle: why would that help ?
[12:29] <BlueEagle> chemjeff: It would be /dev/sdc in most cases.
[12:29] <ikonia> !ibex > sdschwarz
[12:30] <fr0d0barkins> ikonia: xarvh means usb cable, point to point
[12:30] <xarvh> ikonia: and once I have a cross-over cable will everything be obvious and easy?
[12:30] <ikonia> fr0d0barkins: ooh, I thought he meant tcp usb network adaptors
[12:30] <negge> I just tried printing to a Konica Minolta network printer. In the CUPS manager I set the default paper size to A4, but everytime I print something the printer complains about the wrong paper size (8½ x 11 inches) and I have to manually choose paper size on the printer. How do I fix this?
[12:30] <sdschwarz> ikonia / ubottu: I'll check there, thanks!
[12:30] <ikonia> xarvh: are these usb network card ?
[12:30] <xarvh> no
[12:30] <harish> In attempting to start apache server using command sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start i am getting following -- * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[12:30] <harish> how do i fix it?
[12:30] <ikonia> xarvh: wjat are they ?
[12:31] <negge> nevermind I fixed it
[12:31] <fr0d0barkins> ikonia: i've heard people do p2p connection via USB
[12:31] <ikonia> harish put your servers hostname in the ServerName directive in the config file
[12:31] <xarvh> ikonia: it's just a laptop anda desktop with normal usb ports, but adding ethernet adapter, in my situation, may be a problem
[12:31] <fr0d0barkins> but it was on win**s
[12:31] <ikonia> fr0d0barkins: depends on the devices
[12:31] <chemjeff> BlueEagle: okay i'll try it, thanks!
[12:31] <BlueEagle> ikonia: It has been an issue with some cdrom drives that they get io-errors after being idle after a period of time. Turning off ioapic has helped for me.
[12:31] <ikonia> BlueEagle: lets see what it does then
[12:31] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: u can plug a USB ethernet adapter
[12:32] <ikonia> chetnick: I'm interested to know if it works
[12:32] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: just like what ikonia thought
[12:32] <ikonia> oopd
[12:32] <ikonia> chemjeff I'm interested to know if it works
[12:32] <BlueEagle> ikonia: He left.
[12:32] <ikonia> rats
[12:32] <BlueEagle> oh.. no he didn't. Taht was my brain.
[12:32] <fr0d0barkins> lol
[12:32] <BlueEagle> oh wait.. no it was him. Happy tab-complete day everyone.
[12:33] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: wouldn't that be simpler with just a usb cable between the two machines?
[12:33] <aaron_> What is the most stable version of Java to be running?
[12:33]  * BlueEagle goes looking for coff^H^H^H^Hhis brain
[12:33] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: simple by look, but dunno d config
[12:35] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: well, yes... I've been searching around and seems that only windows is capable of this... pity, it seemed kinda obvious =(
[12:35] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: i'll search too. there must be a way
[12:35] <Buttercup> alright, thanks everyone! I just had to add a "-d" to "do-release-update". I think it'll work now. thanks again =))
[12:35] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: thanks! =)
[12:36] <Oprtz> adac: i follow the website u tell me, but still i am not able to mount my windowsXP machine partions  for Network, do u know some Terminal command magic ? :)
[12:36] <jokeusa> Whoa...finally a channel with quite a few active people around :>
[12:36] <fr0d0barkins> but xarvh, the USB ethernet plug is sized as a USB drive too. simple.
[12:36] <eXp`iRc|47002> ciao
[12:36] <eXp`iRc|47002> hallo
[12:36] <eXp`iRc|47002> !list
[12:37] <central> hi do there is a way to order a fsck check at the next sys start ?
[12:37] <adac> Oprtz, error?
[12:37] <Gigacore> hi guys, need a help, I don't know what I did but my keypad doesn't work to enter any numbers or even the return key and other keys won't work.. instead my mouse cursor moves as I press the keys.. like pressing 5 on keypad will move cursor to right... please help
[12:38] <Oprtz> adac: it shows me the computer name (icon) when double click it, doesnot show me the contents inside
[12:38] <BlueEagle> Gigacore: You've turned on mouse keys. me thinks.
[12:38] <Ste1> Hi, I would like to move files between home dirs. but i'm unable to do so(using the gui)
[12:38] <Ste1> I gues I need root privileges
[12:38] <BlueEagle> central: options / accessabillity should hold options for turning it off iirc.
[12:38] <Gigacore> BlueEagle: oh yea!! thanks got it fixed :)
[12:39] <BlueEagle> central: mis-nicked. :)
[12:39] <BlueEagle> central: Is there any particular reason why you want your file checked at boot?
[12:39] <BlueEagle> filesystem*
[12:39] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: Yes, I see... It just seems stupid to use new hardware (and buy it, and have it messing around) to overcome a software problem.... Thanks anyway.
[12:40] <zulu34sx> moin
[12:40] <b0b> hey guys, im using xen with a  non ubuntu 2.6.21 kernel, and i need to install the fglrx driver, anyone know where to get a patch from?
[12:40] <dns53> harish apache can serve multipe domains, you can have a single server host test.com and anothersite.net so you should specify what site it is serving
[12:40] <central> ok so as root user i do mis-nicked
[12:40] <b0b> such as the one that ubuntu uses?
[12:41] <Oprtz> adac: are u there ?
[12:41] <harish> ikonia:can you please be descriptive.?
[12:41] <BlueEagle> central: No mis-nicked is a term used in IRC when someone (ie. me) use the wrong nickname prefix. This often happens when one is about to answer a question and then comes to think of something one should have said to the previous question and thus the question appears to have the wrong address.
[12:41] <xmagixx> anyone know the program tangerine ? my problem is that it only shares 9 songs, and not my hole libery
[12:41] <BlueEagle> central: My question to you is why you want fsck to run at boot.
[12:41] <zulu34sx> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Animated+Desktop?content=88248
[12:41] <zulu34sx> I wanna get this working but i fail at step 5 because an error occurs...
[12:42] <central> hummmm
[12:42] <testi> my laptop does not suspend when logged out
[12:42] <testi> How can I fix this?
[12:43] <testi> I mean it doesn't react on laptop lid close
[12:43] <adac> Oprtz, what does this command say: sudo smbmount //yourwinhost/downloads /mnt/mountfolder
[12:43] <dns53> testi suspend is usually a hardware/driver problem, perhaps they will fix some of the bugs in the next release
[12:43] <zhaozhou> Is'nt there a pastebin-output-application in ubuntu sources? Like the wgetpaste
[12:43] <BlueEagle> central: ie, you are aware that you can run fsck when the system has booted and check for errors. If you find an error you still need to manually use the recovery kernel to fix it. (unless it's a filesystem that is non-essential to run fsck, in which case you can just unmount the filesystem before checking and fixing.)
[12:43] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh, i think the cable is different, not like usual usb cable
[12:44] <testi> dns53: It's definitely not a hardware problem. It all works when I'm logged in.
[12:44] <Akhanu`> testi: My own laptop does blank the screen when lid is closed. No suspend though but honestly I don't mind it.
[12:45] <central> ok but when i am on the system  it say it can damage the sys if i run fsck ...
[12:45] <Oprtz> adac: can i pm u ? its 2 line answer
[12:45] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: indeed, it should be some sort of inverted usb cable. but if i don't have the software for using it, there's no point in buying it
[12:45] <central> and i can not unmount the filsystem when i am runing on it...
[12:45] <BlueEagle> zulu34sx: Thankyou for not sending a /msg to me without asking for permission first.
[12:45] <dns53> testi suspend is hard, it has to stop everything properly in the right order and start it up right, it works fine if you have the right hardware but not all hardware manufacturers are good at helping linux
[12:45] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | zulu34sx
[12:46] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: no, there is a chip in the middle
[12:46] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248
[12:46] <testi> dns53: it seems you completely misunderstand me. Suspend works perfectly. Both RAM and Disk suspend.  It just applies them for the local user and that's really not what I want because sometimes I close the laptop when it still boots or when I'm at the login screen.
[12:48] <testi> That's my guess
[12:48] <xarvh> fr0d0barkins: ouch!! ahah, seems like i have no chances then! ok, thank you very much!
[12:48] <Akhanu`> mrbig4545: I'd guess at ubuntu site itself. Unless you want to roll your own xen kernel.
[12:49] <fr0d0barkins> xarvh: :-h
[12:49] <mrbig4545> ive rolled my own xen kernel, i need the patch for the ati driver on xen
[12:49] <mrbig4545> i think i just found them :D
[12:49] <central> so linux system do not need to be fragmented  ?
[12:50] <Akhanu`> mrbig4545: I'd check either Ati's site for any hints on xen environments, or xen's site for hints on ati hardware.
[12:50] <xarvh> central: no
[12:50] <Akhanu`> mrbig4545: yea? where ?
[12:50] <central> : )
[12:50] <mrbig4545> Akhanu`: cheers
[12:50] <mrbig4545> i got the source for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:50] <central> sounds cool
[12:50] <mrbig4545> and theres some patches in there, ill give them a try
[12:50] <Akhanu`> mrbig4545: oh that's nice to know indeed.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:51] <zulu34sx> dont understand what to do to reach a guideline
[12:51] <mrbig4545> im not sure its going to work, as it only adds xen as a supported arch, but i already tried that, but ill give it another try in a mo and let you know how it turns out!
[12:51] <blankthemuffin> Is there a way to remove all the packages from a certain source with apt?
[12:51] <o_x_y_d_o> j c0imbra
[12:51] <blankthemuffin> For example remove all the packages supplied by a ppa.
[12:52] <esay> oh
[12:52] <Akhanu`> mrbig4545: cool
[12:53] <aaron_> how do I check what package installed a file with deb package system?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: you could websearch for: provides <filename>
[12:54] <lexrupy1> hello people
[12:54] <dns53> aaron_ synaptic has that ability, i don't know a better way
[12:54] <stinger05> hello there, whats the command to install airsnort from the terminal?
[12:54] <ikonia> stinger05 apt-get install
[12:54] <aaron_> I'm trying to get all java off my machine
[12:55] <zulu34sx> ehm
[12:55] <lexrupy1> In Intrepid the terminal window comes by default with a transparency on menu bar, but I reaaly don't want that, how can I disable that?
[12:55] <blankthemuffin> stinger05, you'd use apt. sudo apt-get install <package> or if you're looking for one, apt-cache search ...
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | lexrupy1
[12:55] <Akhanu`> aaron_:  dpkg -S  /path/of/file/you/want/to/find/the/debfile/of
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: dpkg -l | grep -i java
[12:56] <aaron_> thanks
[12:56] <zulu34sx> will there be a way to get support with my problem?
[12:56] <dns53> aaron_ what i would do is use aptitude, search for the java virtual packages and remove them if you really want to do that
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> aaron_: uninstall whatver you wanna remove from there
[12:56] <blankthemuffin> zulu34sx, ask your question?
[12:57] <Draconicus> Okay, here's the deal. I've been working with Xorg for four years. This new version and its xorg.conf setup have got my head spinning. My resolution and driver were just fine until I rebooted. I've configured it with the "low graphics mode" dialog and a number of other things. nvidia-settings claims that my nvidia driver isn't actually enabled, and it doesn't appear to be, but Ubuntu seems to think it is. Furthermore, I can't obtain
[12:57] <zulu34sx> (13:41:54) zulu34sx: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Animated+Desktop?content=88248
[12:57] <zulu34sx> (13:41:54) zulu34sx: I wanna get this working but i fail at step 5 because an error occurs...
[12:57] <Draconicus> Did that cut off somewhere?
[12:57] <Draconicus> I'm on 8.04
[12:57] <Akhanu`> Draconicus: "I can't obtain<cut>"
[12:58] <stinger05> okay thanks guys :D
[12:58] <Draconicus> Akhanu`: Any resolution higher than 640x480, despite having a very elaborately configured xorg.conf to say otherwise.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Draconicus: you could always try envyng-gtk
[12:58] <Blaise> The most recent updates have stopped all sound, and games complain about my graphics card, has anyone heard about these issues?
[12:58] <Draconicus> ActionParsnip: What's that?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !envy | Draconicus
[12:58] <Akhanu`> Draconicus: and that happens with any distro or just with ubuntu ?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Draconicus: sudo apt-get -y install envyng-gtk; gksudo envyng-gtk
[12:59] <blankthemuffin> Draconicus, what drivers have you installed? The nvidia binary ones?
[12:59] <Draconicus> Akhanu`: So far, just this particular installation of Ubuntu 8.04 on my system, and it was fine until I did an update and restarted. I don't recall updating any xorg stuff.
[13:00] <Draconicus> I restarted because various heavy memory leaks were destroying my system's performance.