[14:18] <smoser> Pretty sure this is not just me
[14:18] <smoser>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1795410
[14:19] <smoser> anyone more desktop familiar able to triage that ?  I didn't know what package to put it on.
[14:20] <didrocks> smoser: I just put it on mutter. It's either mutter/G-S…
[14:20] <smoser> i have no mutter process running
[14:21] <Laney> it's a library
[14:21] <smoser> just upgraded then rebooted then logged in. but it had probably been 3 weeks since reboot.
[14:21] <smoser> see, ignorance of destkop <--
[14:21] <smoser> thanks
[14:23] <smoser> didrocks: any suggestion on how to get the window menu to come up? i'm really used to having the browser window on all visiable workspaces
[14:24] <smoser> well, configured some shortcut to it and that seems to work.
[14:26] <jbicha> smoser: that should have been the default
[14:28] <smoser> it is the default.
[14:28] <smoser> but it doesnt do anything
[14:28] <smoser> does it work for you jbicha ?
[14:31] <didrocks> smoser: it doesn't work for me, but Trevinho is the one following most of the upstream on those 2 componentsn
[14:31] <jbicha> yes
[14:35] <ddstreet> smoser are you able to verify lp #1755858?
[15:00] <bdmurray> seb128: Do you still want emails from the Launchpad retracers which run on porter-i386?
[15:01] <seb128> bdmurray, I guess not, I was not even aware that those were still a thing, I didn't receive any for years. In fact I haven't been looking at the retracer for years, since you picked that up :)
[15:01] <seb128> thanks for asking though
[15:01] <bdmurray> seb128: no problem, I'll update the crontab
[15:02] <seb128> thx
[15:02] <seb128> on what machine is that again?
[15:02] <seb128> I forgot all the details about those: p
[15:02] <bdmurray> osageorange / porter-i386
[15:03] <seb128> thx
[16:41] <blaze> can someone shed a light for me about what happened to the networking since CC?
[17:38] <smoser> infinity or sil2100 could one of you look at the cloud-initramfs-tools uploads for bionic and xenial for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1792905
[17:38] <smoser> infinity: the change suggested was iiuc yours to begin with, so i'm guessing you agree with it.
[17:38] <infinity> smoser: I often disagree with myself!
[17:38]  * infinity looks.
[17:39] <nacc> heh
[17:39] <infinity> smoser: Oh, that change.  Yeah, happy to take that.
[17:39] <infinity> smoser: b and x, you say?
[17:40] <smoser> yes. it is in c.
[17:42] <infinity> smoser: Accepted * 2
[17:42] <infinity> smoser: I'd suggest the testcase for this package specifically should just be "dpkg -S /lib/modules" and make sure it's in the list of owners.
[17:43] <smoser> infinity: i was just typing a SRU template for the cloud-initramfs-tools upload.
[17:43] <smoser> i will put that in as the test case. thank youl
[17:43] <infinity> smoser: Since testing the actual bug is a bit more convoluted and may be fixed belt-and-bracers via including the dir in images, etc.
[20:41] <sarnold> bdmurray: hello :) is there a reason for 1794136 1795128 1757013 1795395 to be private? they look related to 1794292 (public) and I don't see a coredump on any of them
[20:57] <bdmurray> sarnold: even though the coredump is gone the stacktrace should be inspected for anything private
[20:58] <sarnold> bdmurray: hm, is this new? or do I just now have more privileges to see things than I used to? :)
[20:58] <bdmurray> sarnold: No not new. I don't know did you level up recently? ;-)
[20:59] <sarnold> bdmurray: I *am* surprised to see "private" bugs
[21:01] <bdmurray> sarnold: I don't see anything new in your LP account
[21:04] <sarnold> bdmurray: heh, then perhaps I'm just not very observant. :) I just know I've lost access to bugs before when people fiddle with the switch, so I assumed that was still the case
[21:35] <aidanh010> What kind of bug do I need to file to indicate that something fixed in cosmic needs to be backported to bionic? The package has two open bugs one by me and one by someone else, both of which have technically been fixed but need to be backported
[21:36] <nacc> aidanh010: link to bug?
[21:36] <nacc> aidanh010: you need to open (or request) a task for the appropriate release
[21:36] <aidanh010> both of these: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-docker-docker-credential-helpers
[21:36] <nacc> !sru | aidanh010
[21:36] <nacc> aidanh010: they are fixed in 18.10?
[21:37] <aidanh010> yeah I just upgraded test server and confirmed it
[21:37] <nacc> aidanh010: ok, i've indicated they need to be fixed in 18.04, via tasks, please update them with your testing info
[21:37] <aidanh010> ok thanks nacc
[23:29] <sarnold> bdmurray: hah, there's still some python2 -> python3 bugs around here.. 1795274
[23:30] <sarnold> bdmurray: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/391075166/HookError_ubuntu.txt


[16:11] <benw909909> mchlbhm there yet?
[17:27] <yeehi> I want my SSD to be / partition. In the tower there will be a HDD, too. I would like to mount that as though it is an external drive. What partition would I mount that on, during installation? for example, /media/myusername/bigdisk
[17:39] <SnowmanX11> yeehi: how the big HDD formatted?
[17:40] <SnowmanX11> I would just let to stay in during the installation and the ubuntu will recognize it as external drive and will be unmountable with small triangle in the Nautilus
[17:41] <SnowmanX11> If you want to mount and umoumt manuallu each time then I would make a small script to do it and run it in the terminal
[17:43] <SnowmanX11> Otherwise, back to your question: mount both of them into the tower and use fdisk to ask for identification
[17:43] <SnowmanX11> Install root and home and everzthing on SSD depend on its identification (sda or sdb)
[17:44] <SnowmanX11> Put the grrub to the ssd too
[17:44] <SnowmanX11> Automatically the big drive going to be the other
[17:45] <SnowmanX11> I have only one question: if you would like to use the HDD as an external drive and SSD for system than where do you place the swap?
[17:54] <SnowmanX11> yeehi: are you there?
[18:55] <acoleman1981> has anyone else had the issue of a usb keyboard and mouse working but when removing the usb devices and trying to use the installed touchpad and keyboard (laptop) it only works every other reboot?  Please private message me with any help available or links to instructions. Thanks!
[23:35] <earthling_> On the latest kernel update, it has options for generic kernel header, generic kernel image, or both generic kernel header and image in one file.  Does it matter if I install all options?  My OS version is 12.04
[23:40] <earthling_> My kernel version is 3.5.0-27-generic


[10:46] <alan_g> greyback: I told you not to waste time on that bug. I have already marked it a dup.
[10:47] <greyback> alan_g: I hadn't hit refresh, 'tis all.
[16:39] <bschaefer> yay mir support landed upstream in kodi
[16:40] <AlbertA> bschaefer: nice! does that mean the snap can build for upstream github branch now? or not quite yet?
[16:40] <alan_g> Nice.
[16:40] <bschaefer> AlbertA, yes it can, i upstreamed the fixes need for cmake, the only issue is the tarballs
[16:40] <anpok> oh wow!
[16:41]  * alan_g is looking forward to running "miral-desktop -kiosk -launcher kodi"
[16:41] <bschaefer> ill have to look into doing it correctly
[16:41] <AlbertA> bschaefer: you could potentially just make a custom plugin that pulls in the tar balls
[16:41] <bschaefer> AlbertA, hmm but internet access was blocked?
[16:42] <bschaefer> which was the issue, or do plugins get more rights?
[16:42] <AlbertA> bschaefer: ahh.. nvmd then. forgot the builder is launchpad
[16:43] <bschaefer> AlbertA, yeah how i have to do it now is manually point the cmake -DRELATIVE_PATH_TO_TAR_BALL
[16:43] <bschaefer> soo it'll be like
[16:43] <bschaefer> -DPATH=../../../../../tarballs/<name>.tar
[16:43]  * bschaefer will have to check it out though
[18:46] <anpok> miralshell at least is working fine (still with 0.24.1)
[18:46] <anpok> on vmware
[18:46] <anpok> I thought there was a problem


[00:36] <linggao> Hi all,  has anyone tried to using the on-board wifi with Ubuntu 16.04 on a RPi3 device?


[10:16] <ECarroll> troy_s: Auctually that was the wrong ~
[10:17] <Flannel> rendo: the sudo mysql -u root gives you what error?
[10:17] <SonicChao> Does anyone have LiveCD and InstallCD to freely ship me? Please PM me for details.
[10:17] <JediMaster> orbin: yeah, but it would help heat up the machine too, got a fairly hefty geforce in there (can't remember which, but it has the extra molex connect for the extra power)
[10:17] <orbin> sh00t: i used gnome-ppp ... depends on the modem though on whether or not you can just straight up and connect.  you might need drivers
[10:17] <rendo> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: N
[10:17] <ECarroll> troy_s: still no go.
[10:18] <rendo> I've tried looking up the error, but nothing seems to help.
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> rendo: did you set a password for root on it?
[10:18] <troy_s> ecarroll:  in user lib firefox plugins?
[10:18] <b14ck> help pls. i can't play wmv with mplayer. how can i update it?
[10:18] <kamad05> Anybody has any experience with encrypting the entire harddrive with 6.06? ... I keep recieving a "Incompatible libdevmapper 1,02,05 and kernel driver. Can anybody help me? ... Googling hasnt anyhow
[10:18] <rendo> That doesn't work, I think.
[10:19] <kevin> rendo, I believe when I was playin with that, I had to use sudo -i then go into it, but it has been a year now
[10:19] <Flannel> rendo: try this: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,34014,46593#msg-46593
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> rendo: what I mean is, if you did, you have to supply it with the -p option
[10:19] <troy_s> ubotu, tell b14ck about RestrictedFormats
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> or indicate you're going to type one with that option
[10:19] <ECarroll> ecarroll@AMD64:~$ ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[10:19] <ECarroll> gxineplugin.so@  libunixprintplugin.so  nphelix.so@  nphelix.xpt@
[10:19] <ECarroll> I'm removing all of them
[10:19] <b14ck> !restricted
[10:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:19] <rendo> tiglionabbit And what do I type for that again?
[10:20] <troy_s> ecarroll:  strange weird... still crashin on that site?
[10:20] <b14ck> ty troy_s
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> rendo: mysql -p
[10:20] <tnks> Without stirring up controversy or flames, could someone help me understand some of the key reasons why Ubuntu developers needed to branch off of Debian instead of working in Debian's "unstable" repository.  I'm not sure I've heard these points from a real Ubuntu proponent.
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> or whatever the command to start it is, with a -p on the end
[10:20] <BenPA> !matthewv
[10:20] <ubotu> BenPA: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <rendo> Gives the same error
[10:20] <FunnyHat> tnks, I would ask in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[10:20] <JediMaster> yay, stable at 42.5C (at full load, bearing in mind it's 30C indoors today and there's 8 HDDs plus a geforce card in this machine) =)
[10:20] <troy_s> tnks:  it's open source.
[10:20] <ECarroll> troy_s: That was it.
[10:20] <sh00t> orbin so, first of all, Do i need to install gnome-ppp?
[10:20] <tnks> FunnyHat: okay.
[10:20] <troy_s> ecarroll:  thank god.
[10:21] <Ixzat> anyone in here good at locales?
[10:21] <wiggiwahwse> guys, how to i downgrade back to breezy bager...i stupidly upgraded to LTS and i really dont like it...way to unstable for me
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  if there were one.
[10:21] <ECarroll> troy_s: I'll be able to tell you shortly which one did it
[10:21] <nfernandes> hey, i have a problem with realplayer not working on some sites
[10:21] <cyphase> is there ever going to be an official gnome feed reader?
[10:21] <wiggiwahwse> any suggestions how i downgrade again
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  let me bet -- helix ?
[10:21] <orbin> sh00t: i would, yes.
[10:21] <squiddle> Ixzat  just ask
[10:21] <tnks> troy_s: I know it's open-source, but surely there was more motivation than "because we can".
[10:21] <orbin> sh00t: but what modem do you have?
[10:21] <ECarroll> troy_s: I would make the same bet =/
[10:21] <cyphase> or at least a feed reader installed in ubuntu by default
[10:21] <nfernandes> the realplayer site reccomends checking the complier versions for firefox and realplayer
[10:21] <troy_s> ecarroll:  thank good old real technology if you can call it that :)
[10:21] <sh00t> orbin I use Intel 537
[10:21] <FunnyHat> tnks, it's also because Debian has chosen to have some restrictive and...  interesting... licensing
[10:21] <squiddle> cyphase  there is liferea
[10:21] <AlienX> cyphase, liferea is your friend :)
[10:22] <rendo> Oh well, fuck it.  Not worth my time for it to just be a piece of shit.
[10:22] <nfernandes> and i find that realplayer has been compiled with gcc 3.2
[10:22] <rendo> I'll bbl
[10:22] <cyphase> i already use liferea
[10:22] <nfernandes> but firefox uses 4.0
[10:22] <animepunkw> anyone know a good program for converting mvk files to dvd ?
[10:22] <AlienX> !language
[10:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:22] <orbin> sh00t: is that internal?
[10:22] <cyphase> but it would be nice if it was installed by default
[10:22] <troy_s> rendo:  hang in there... mysql is a bit of learning bro.
[10:22] <orbin> sh00t: or onboard rather?
[10:22] <nfernandes> any suggestions? will i have to recomplie realplayer?
[10:22] <cyphase> and if it was more Gnomey :)
[10:22] <troy_s> rendo:  i had it up in an hour on openbsd... it was all about configging mysql.
[10:22] <wiggiwahwse> anyone here got  a second to maybe point me in the right direction to downgrade my version of ubuntu?
[10:22] <wiggiwahwse> pleaseeeeeeee
[10:22] <troy_s> nfernades:  what platform you on?
[10:22] <ECarroll> troy_s: Bing, helix plugin
[10:23] <nfernandes> dapper drake k7
[10:23] <troy_s> ecarroll:  very weird.  they are doing something uncool there.
[10:23] <Ixzat> when i installed ubuntu i choose swedish, however now all error messages and such is in swedish, but i want it in english... i tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf using en_US.UTF8 for all options, rebooted the machine, but i still get messages in swedish
[10:23] <ECarroll> troy_s: Wow that still seems servere I'll file a bug report now
[10:23] <troy_s> ecarroll:  trying to do that 'we'll handle that for you' proprietary attitude.
[10:23] <mihai_> i have an acer travelmate 200... i've just installed xubuntu on it but the os' drawings are kind of slow... i belive that there is a driver problem (video)... can you guys help?
[10:23] <tnks> FunnyHat: Yeah.  Debian finally got to a point where it could distribute Sun's Java SDK and JRE.  Still, that's a lot of work to fork off a distro.  May there's a web page somewhere that summarizes some other reasons?
[10:23] <ECarroll> troy_s: a prioprietary attitutude on an open source technology, horrah.
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  how did you get those helix bits to compile on amd64?  i tried for hours.
[10:24] <wiggiwahwse> anyoe else having problems with ubuntu LTS?
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: that was helix from repos too
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: I think it was anyway
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  ahhhhhhhhh.  have you tried compiling that nightmare?
[10:24] <FunnyHat> tnks, I'm googling around right now, but I'm not sure what I'll come up with.  The poeple in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu would know though
[10:24] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, nope
[10:24] <kevin> all is well here ;-)
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: Probably, I've done it a few times before, it so isn't worth it
[10:24] <orbin> sh00t: try connecting using gnome-ppp...if it doesn't work, read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto ... next step would be search ubuntuforums.org for intel 537.  good luck
[10:24] <squiddle> wiggiwahwse  this is a weird question to ask in support channel
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  did you do it for realplayer support?
[10:24] <ECarroll> troy_s: if your going to waste time compiling a media player do it right with mplayer
[10:24] <troy_s> ecarroll:  amen.
[10:25] <wiggiwahwse> weird.... kevin. I found firefox to randomly close for no reason. Kernel 2.6.15...doesnt support my wireless...and it doesnt shut down properlly
[10:25] <ECarroll> troy_s: Yea, I finnaly got realplayer support w/ mplayer
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  because i managed to get my lovely bbc up with realplayer running 32bit firefox via that flas64 page.
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  whoa!  how!
[10:25] <ECarroll> troy_s: oddly it works better than with helix, or with realplayer binary
[10:25] <troy_s> ecarroll:  can you stream bbc?!?!?!
[10:25] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, 2.6.15 is awesome here
[10:25] <wiggiwahwse> squiddle, its more appropriate in the support channel than anywhere else
[10:25] <animepunkw> how to i convert a mkv file to dvd or what porgram do i need to do it ?
[10:25] <neo_> i'm having problems instaling my ati m9 the toturial sems not to work
[10:26] <troy_s> animepunkw:  any2dvd might be a good start.
[10:26] <wiggiwahwse> kevin,  maybe its just this stupid kernel module for acx thats doing my nut...but firefox and mozilla just randomly close
[10:26] <wiggiwahwse> really weird
[10:26] <neo_> fglrxinfo gives me a huge list of erros
[10:26] <troy_s> ecarroll:  you can stream bbc radio using mplayer?!?!?!
[10:26] <animepunkw> Thank you Troy_s
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: hold on
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: I have gmplayer in chroot too
[10:26] <ECarroll> troy_s: not sure if i got the 64bit to play real
[10:26] <troy_s> ahh... i did it without the stinky chroot
[10:26] <CokeNCode> tvtime won't let me change the video source
[10:26] <CokeNCode>  it's stuck on 'default'
[10:26] <CokeNCode> what's going on
[10:26] <CokeNCode> ?
[10:27] <CokeNCode> this is THE most frustrating thing ever
[10:27] <kevin> wiggiwahwse, never had a problem like that here, if I shutdown via command, it looks like it hangs bit then it don't
[10:27] <troy_s> ecarroll:  just linux32'd the firefox32 bin via that wiki... all works well.
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: hrm, I'm using the essential codecs from mplayer web site
[10:27] <troy_s> ecarroll:  but not in native 64 right?
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: But i don't seem to have video with my 64bit mplayer
[10:27] <wiggiwahwse> ok maybe ill see if i can get this acx driver to work
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: No, with 64bit i get sound
[10:27] <wiggiwahwse> bbiab
[10:27] <ECarroll> troy_s: Just not picture
[10:28] <CokeNCode>  how do i do a completely fresh install
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  interesting.  i would love to find a way to get bbc such in native 64 without too much hoop jumping.
[10:28] <CokeNCode> and remove ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL settings ?
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i suspect that is the 32bit decoding libs for vid (more real crap)
[10:28] <ECarroll> troy_s: doesn't bbc cast in thelia now too?
[10:28] <troy_s> ecarroll:  god i sent them enough mails about theora -- never heard of thelia.
[10:28] <ECarroll> yar theora
[10:28] <Ixzat> when i installed ubuntu i choose swedish, however now all error messages and such is in swedish, but i want it in english... i tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf using en_US.UTF8 for all options, rebooted the machine, but i still get messages in swedish... how to fix?
[10:29] <steve> hi folks. any1 know about wireless cards not working in 6 now?
[10:29] <troy_s> steve:  there are plenty.
[10:29] <steve> no, I mean after the last kernel update
[10:29] <squiddle> Ixzat  you have to change it in gdm (the graphical login) cause it overrides the locale
[10:29] <troy_s> ecarroll:  last time i looked, they were choosing the closed source road, which is why i brought this to their attention being a global news company and all.
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> Ixzat: System -> Admin -> Language Support
[10:30] <troy_s> ecarroll: Please choose your preferred media player:  windows media player real player
[10:30] <troy_s> brutal.
[10:30] <meegaha> Hi all, need to recompile my kernel (new to Ubuntu) to get some things working, where does one get the source from? (and what's the difference between 'kernel-source' and 'kernel-headers'?)
[10:31] <JPAULEY> !linux-source
[10:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, JPAULEY
[10:31] <JPAULEY> thought that worked
[10:31] <JPAULEY> do an apt-get install linux-source
[10:31] <Ixzat> thanks... but then comes my real problem... somehow my software database is borked, and apt keeps telling me to run apt-get install -f to fix it, but its a dead end
[10:32] <JPAULEY> no idea really :(
[10:32] <ekp> hi
[10:32] <ekp> having no luck installing desktop themes
[10:32] <meegaha> I can't seem to get the most recent (patched) source via linux-source
[10:32] <ekp> use art manager and install themes but they do not show up in Theme manager
[10:33] <squiddle> meegaha  you should get those for the actual default kernel
[10:33] <carusx>  /join #ubuntu-it
[10:33] <ekp> browse to file and open .rc file and am told wrong format
[10:33] <ECarroll> troy_s: with the growing rate of podcasting i'm not to worried about the bbc.
[10:34] <meegaha> squiddle: sorry run that by me again. To start fresh, I'm running <IP_ADDRESS> (the def. dapper kernel)
[10:34] <meegaha> and I want to recompile to get some things working
[10:34] <nickrud> meegaha, I'd think you could, but try linux-source-2.6.15
[10:34] <squiddle> !kernel
[10:34] <ECarroll> troy_s: if what they are saying is worth anything, 150million kids will regurgitate it as their own
[10:35] <meegaha> squiddle:  what is the 'linux-headers' used for then?
[10:35] <meegaha> (a bit confused)
[10:36] <squiddle> meegaha  if you have to build 3d party modules
[10:36] <squiddle> meegaha  headers are just the interface descriptions to the kernel
[10:36] <meegaha> ah, I understand now.
[10:36] <gdb> What is the dpkg command to determine which packages are partially installed?
[10:37] <gdb> dpkg-configure -a?
[10:37] <Ixzat> when i do apt-get install -f it wants to install python2.4-sip4-qt3 but i wont install, how can i remove it from the list to be installed?
[10:37] <nickrud> gdb, dpkg -l | grep ^c
[10:37] <Crescendo> how to find a file recursively within a directory
[10:37] <Crescendo> ?
[10:37] <gdb> nickrud: Thank you. :-)
[10:37] <meegaha> Now the linux-source-2.6.15, would this be the fully patched (2.6.15-23) source?
[10:37] <AK7> hey, can someone tell me the command to check my video card?
[10:37] <squiddle> Crescendo  find directory/to/search -iname "searchingfor"
[10:38] <gdb> nickrud: This has been the steepest learning curve coming from an rpm background, learning the dpkg based system.
[10:38] <meegaha> Do I need to modify/patch it in anyway? or is it just configure and compile after installing?
[10:38] <jacobmj> hi folks.  I'm having some difficulty with freezes while installing on a sony laptop. At random places during installation, the laptop hard freezes
[10:38] <nickrud> gdb, just new commands, you already know what you need if you are comfortable with rpms
[10:39] <squiddle> meegaha  just configure and compile, but there are a lot of quite easy and complicated ways to do this on ubuntu which will generate your own special debs for the kernel
[10:39] <jacobmj> I do not believe this is a heat issue.  Is there a non-graphical method of installation to test?
[10:39] <squiddle> meegaha  try searching in the wiki
[10:39] <dou213> AK7, lspci
[10:40] <squiddle> jacobmj  non-graphical meaning no X11 or meaning no gui at all (just command line)? for the first one you can use the server install method
[10:40] <jacobmj> squiddle: either would work.  I'll try the server method. Are there other differences in terms of installed packaged?
[10:40] <AK7> dou213: thx
[10:40] <pradeep> HELP ! i removed myself from the admin group...now im not able to sudo ... what should i do?
[10:41] <b14ck> wmv video tag can be removed only by paying?
[10:41] <squiddle> jacobmj  it is less, but you can get a desktop install by installing the meta-package ubuntu-desktop after you are finished
[10:41] <Amaranth> pradeep: reboot in recovery mode and use 'adduser <user> admin' to put yourself back in the group
[10:41] <nickrud> pradeep, reboot into recovery mode, then type adduser <username> admin , and reboot again
[10:41] <jacobmj> squiddle: thanks. I'll give this a try.  I'll likely return if still plagued by freezes
[10:41] <Alfred_> Hey guys! Does anyone know how I make Skype start automatically on Ubuntu 6.06 boot up?
[10:41] <Echelon-H> im trying to run XGL and when I am running it says something about libGLcore and I can't seem to fix it. can anyone help?
[10:41] <pradeep> phew ! thanks guys will do that
[10:41] <Amaranth> b14ck: it can only be viewed if you use w32codecs and gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[10:42] <Amaranth> !seveas
[10:42] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:42] <chapium> Alfred_: you can put it in your startup
[10:42] <livingdaylight> i've added volume control from Add/Remove Programs and also from Synaptics. But it doesn' tshow in Applications/Sound
[10:42] <squiddle> Alfred_  gnome-menue -> settings -> session properties
[10:42] <Amaranth> b14ck: go there to get w32codecs
[10:42] <Echelon-H> !xgl
[10:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:42] <meegaha> squiddle: After a bit of googling I've found the following>> make menuconfig (make changes here); make; make-kpkg kernel_image --initrd; and then install the resulting package (via dpkg -i linux-image-xxxxx.deb) does thst sound about right?
[10:42] <b14ck> Amaranth:  i have the codecs
[10:42] <meegaha> squiddle: my connection keeps dropping. if you said anything please repeat.
[10:43] <chapium> Alfred_: system->preferences->sessions->startup
[10:43] <Amaranth> b14ck: then install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll or totem-xine
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  but the video has some ad over
[10:43] <squiddle> meegaha  i think so, there are at least 3 different ways one more complicated than the other but it looks good
[10:43] <Amaranth> oh
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  ok
[10:43] <Amaranth> beyond the video playing i dunno
[10:43] <squiddle> meegaha  you can always use the regular kernel way
[10:43] <Amaranth> if it plays you've reached all you can do
[10:43] <meegaha>
[10:43] <b14ck> Amaranth:  :( ok then tx
[10:43] <Amaranth> b14ck: the advertisement is coded into the video
[10:43] <b14ck> no
[10:43] <gentoo_helper> Hello there, as my nick indicates I have spent a good deal of my Linux career mucking about in Gentoo. However, my mother needed something a little easier to use so I decided to try ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble setting up ndiswrapper. Can anyone help? Thanks.
[10:44] <Alfred_> squiddle, chapium thanks a lot! I'll see on to it :) Have a good night!
[10:44] <troy_s> gentoo:  try the wiki and forums first... good starting points.
[10:44] <CokeNCode> oh for fucks sake !
[10:44] <CokeNCode> this is impossible
[10:44] <b14ck> Amaranth:  lol man yeah it's coded i think. i have 2 wmv's and one is without the anoying stuph
[10:44] <CokeNCode> damn tv card
[10:44] <twysted> CokeNCode> calm down
[10:44] <CokeNCode>  graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:44] <Echelon-H> im trying to run XGL and when I am running it says something about libGLcore and I can't seem to fix it. can anyone help?
[10:44] <twysted> CokeNCode> tv cards are always a PITA
[10:45] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, I already did. I read the troubleshooting page and everything.
[10:45] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chipset of wifi?
[10:45] <CokeNCode> twysted, what really has me pissed, is that it worked perfectly under 5.10
[10:45] <Amaranth> b14ck: Sounds like a pornographic video. ;)
[10:45] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, ndiswrapper is up and running, the problem is getting iwconfig to work properly.
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> CokeNCode, please watch your language
[10:45] <CokeNCode> and then i upgraded to 6.06
[10:45] <CokeNCode> and poof
[10:45] <twysted> CokeNCode> weird, did you do a upgrade or a fresh install?
[10:45] <Amaranth> CokeNCode: What's the problem?
[10:45] <pppoe_dude> :)
[10:45] <Knifa> hay
[10:46] <collins> Dapper user since flight 5 - 100% uptodate with 6.06. Having problems with CTL_ALT_Fn console switch. Some consoles (tty1,5,6) work ok, others (2-4) are garbled - linefeeds ignored. xorg driver is sis. No other X problems.
[10:46] <CokeNCode> Amaranth, tvtime ... won't work
[10:46] <nickrud> CokeNCode, did you compile & install some stuff yourself? (screws with upgrades sometimes)
[10:46] <Knifa> has anyone had any problems compiling the module thingies for the nVidia drivers?
[10:46] <Amaranth> Oh
[10:46] <meegaha> squiddle: sorry connectiong dropped.
[10:46] <Knifa> well
[10:46] <Amaranth> I dunno anything about that
[10:46] <CokeNCode> nickrud, nah, i didn't
[10:46] <CokeNCode> i just did the upgrade
[10:46] <b14ck> Amaranth:  no actualy is from animemusicvideos but it might as well be porn :P
[10:46] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, The tutorial says to check your setup by issuing ifdown wlan0 followed by ifup wlan0. I have done that. When wlan0 comes back up iwconfig indicates that it has been disassociated from my AP and it no longer knows the WEP key. I have to set these manually on every boot and its driving me nuts.
[10:46] <Knifa> it compiles, but once it configs it spazs out and says the modules don't exist
[10:46] <ECarroll> troy_s: I just filed the bug report, if you want to play with it and add something https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/helix-player/+bug/49299
[10:46] <CokeNCode> tvtime won't let me change channels, it's just stuck on 'default'
[10:46] <CokeNCode> is there another program i can use ?
[10:46] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chipset?  and what happens via the gnome gui app?
[10:47] <troy_s> ecarroll:  i don't  think ubuntu will respond.  your best bet is probably the helix community.  they are rpobably the only ones who care.
[10:47] <meegaha> thanks all.
[10:47] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, Well. The gnome GUI app does not report any difficulties.
[10:47] <eXistenZ> How can I restart gnome?
[10:47] <ECarroll> troy_s: I'm not 100% sure it is an upstream bug
[10:47] <Knifa> has anyone had any problems getting the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site working? I've downloaded them and got the modules to compile and changed the x config, but when it starts it says the modules don't exist.
[10:47] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: get network manager
[10:47] <twysted> eXistenZ ctrl alt backspace
[10:47] <ECarroll> troy_s: I might have been able to fix it by simlinking those missing .sos
[10:48] <nickrud> eXistenZ, log out of gnome and hit ctl-alt-backspace
[10:48] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, It activates wlan0 just fine, but the next time I go to boot, iwconfig has lost all its settings.
[10:48] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: If you're using dapper install network-manager-gnome
[10:48] <eXistenZ> thanks
[10:48] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Look. Isn't there a way I can do this on the command line? I usually use gentoo and I'm not that fond of the GUI. :(
[10:48] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: Why would you expect iwconfig to remember your password?
[10:48] <squiddle> Knifa  you hace to load it with modprobe
[10:48] <Dreamglider> anyone know any good  list of gamews for linux ?
[10:48] <troy_s> gentoo:  yes.  the cli lets you put the key and such in a conf, IF that is what you are getting at.
[10:49] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Besides, I used network-manager-gnome and it worked just fine, it just won't reconfigure wlan0 on boot.
[10:49] <troy_s> dreamglider:  try apt-cache search game
[10:49] <squiddle> Dreamglider  holarse-linuxgaming.de (german)
[10:49] <eXistenZ> why /etc/modules.conf doesn't exist? where is it?
[10:49] <Amaranth> oh yeah, can't you use /etc/network/interfaces to set all that stuff?
[10:49] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: Yes, man /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <gentoo_helper> troy_s, The chipset is a WUSB11 v4 by the way. It's a linksys (USB) adapter.
[10:49] <ECarroll> err man interfaces
[10:49] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: it's /etc/modules
[10:50] <troy_s> gentoo:  what chip does that v4 use though?  broadcom?
[10:50] <Knifa> squiddle: how do i do that?
[10:50] <SAM_theman> history -c
[10:50] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Because I though the job of the /etc/network/interfaces file was to pass that information to iwconfig.
[10:50] <Smirnov> How do I get MonoDevelop for Ubuntu ?
[10:50] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, Hmm....
[10:50] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: it is, afaik
[10:50] <nickrud> eXistenZ, and /etc/modprobe.d
[10:51] <squiddle> Knifa  at the console type sudo rmmod nvidia and sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:51] <troy_s> gentoo:  there is def a conf for the key and such.
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: but iwconfig doesn't write to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:51] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, I looked through the file and I don't see the problem. I even rearranged the lines to make sure the ESSID and key were assigned before the IP address.
[10:51] <Knifa> okay
[10:51] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well...then shouldn't it pass my wep key to iwconfig?
[10:51] <Knifa> i'll do it when ubuntu is finished reinstalling
[10:51] <Knifa> because
[10:51] <Knifa> it blew up.
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: it should
[10:51] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: man wireless rather sry
[10:51] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: you might have found a bug
[10:52] <pyroride> hi.. when i try this command in terminal "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly"
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, A bug already? Damn. This is my first day... :(
[10:52] <Dreamglider> how can i get x-chat to open links in firefox ?
[10:52] <pyroride> i get an error:
[10:52] <pyroride> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:52] <pyroride> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:52] <pyroride> is only available from another source
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well. I don't plan on submitting a bug report until I'm *really* sure something is amiss.
[10:52] <troy_s> gentoo:  first, if you can, try to avoid that blasted ndiswrapper.  second, it is probably just a config issue.
[10:52] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, Ok...man wireless you say?
[10:52] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: yar, you will need a wireless-essid, and wireless-key entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: you're putting things like wireless-essid Home in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:52] <kieranDOA> Dreamglider: if ff is your default browser, right click the link > open in browser
[10:53] <nickrud> Dreamglider, I control left click
[10:53] <cyphase> how do you boot the livecd on macs?
[10:53] <kieranDOA> Hold down C
[10:53] <nickrud> pyroride, you need to enable the universe repo
[10:53] <CokeNCode> ok, is there a command i should be using to set up my tvtuner card
[10:53] <nickrud> !tell pyroride about repos
[10:53] <CokeNCode> or something like tha t?
[10:53] <cyphase> ah
[10:53] <Amaranth> cyphase: hold down C as soon as you turn the power on
[10:53] <Dreamglider> kieranDOA, it is my default but if i right klick and open nothing happens!
[10:54] <cyphase> i guess that is it..
[10:54] <cyphase> thanx :)
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> ECarroll, They are already in the file. :)
[10:54] <Amaranth> cyphase: as soon as you hear the "ding" noise
[10:54] <troy_s> hrm says the usb v4 is a prism based chipset... aren't there native drivers for that?!?!?!?!
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well yes.
[10:54] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, That's where the tool found under System --> Administration --> Networking put them. I am just checking those lines.
[10:55] <troy_s> prism54 methinks
[10:55] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[10:55] <ivank> troy_s is it normal for ram to give errors during memtest? or is it normal when there ar eno errors at all?
[10:55] <nickrud> Dreamglider, check system->prefs->preferred apps, make sure the browser there is firefox
[10:55] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: I'd just use network-manager and a startup script that make sure wlan0 comes up right
[10:55] <troy_s> gentoo:  what is the vendor id via lspci?
[10:55] <jrsims> hey, what's the best file sharing program for linux? is it emule?
[10:55] <troy_s> ivank:  normal?  no... good ram shouldn't give errors.  overclocked might etc.
[10:55] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, That's the other thing: How on earth do I get a script to run at startup? I've never needed to do that before.
[10:56] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: system startup or X login?
[10:56] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, Well. I just need it to run after /etc/init.d/networking does.
[10:56] <troy_s> gentoo:  erm product hex value
[10:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, you can add scripts to /etc/init.d/ then put them in /etc/rc2.d
[10:56] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: then tack it on at the end of /etc/init.d/networking
[10:56] <ECarroll> gentoo_helper: It is only a bash script
[10:56] <ECarroll> sh script rather
[10:56] <gentoo_helper> Amaranth, I was going to write a simple script to do what I usually do (the whole iwconfig wlan0 essid ... thing)
[10:56] <nickrud> add it to /etc/rc.local
[10:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, more like ln -s them
[10:57] <Amaranth> gentoo_helper: what nickrud said
[10:57] <jrsims> can I get a suggestion for a P2P app for linux?
[10:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Don't I have to follow some sort of predefined syntax for initscripts to do that or something?
[10:57] <arthur_> Hi there everybody. HAs anybody here tired to install a xmail server on dapper?
[10:57] <ECarroll> rc.local is better in the strict sense.
[10:57] <zzalias> #akl
[10:57] <gentoo_helper> nickrud, add the script to /etc/rc.local? Ok...
[10:57] <arthur_> I am getting a error 1 message from both synaptic and apt-get
[10:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, not really. as long as they have #!/bin/sh at the first line
[10:58] <ayabara> just about to replace xp on my pc, and I'm wondering if I should choose ubuntu or kubuntu. should I just try them and find out what i like, or do you have any good arguments why I should choose ubuntu?
[10:58] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well that sounds easy enough... :)
[10:58] <kieranDOA> ayabara: just try them
[10:58] <troy_s> ayabara:  the later.
[10:58] <gavagai> ayabara, makes no difference, you can install gnome on kubuntu and kde on ubuntu
[10:58] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, and if you add them to /etc/rc2.d, you can specify in which order it will run by tacking on a number before the name
[10:58] <troy_s> ayabara:  and what gavagai just said.
[10:58] <zzalias> ar cia yra lietuviu ?
[10:58] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[10:59] <AlienX> anyone familiar with a grub error 21? I have windows installed on a master drive /dev/hda and ubuntu installed on a slave drive /dev/hdb and get the error on boot
[10:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, e.g. ln -s /path/to/scipt /etc/rc2.d/XXscriptname where XX is the priority number
[10:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, or you can do what nickrud said
[10:59] <ayabara> gavagai: won't that clutter my system and decrease performance?
[10:59] <matt0440> can i get help?
[10:59] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Can I tack a number before the name in /etc/rc.local? Or should I just use sysv-rc-conf to make sure it only runs in one runlevel. I don't want this script run at the end of every runlevel.
[10:59] <gavagai> ayabara, no
[10:59] <Amaranth> !ask
[10:59] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:00] <Amaranth> err
[11:00] <nickrud> gentoo_helper, rc.local is easiest, the run level thing is better control.
[11:00] <Amaranth> matt0440: Just ask,
[11:00] <ayabara> gavagai: straight and simple answer :-)
[11:00] <gavagai> heh
[11:00] <arthur_> OK let me try again. Anyone here familiar with xmail?
[11:00] <dxdemetriou> How can I disable the turn off on display after some time in Dapper?
[11:00] <gentoo_helper> nickrud, Well...A gentoo user never does it the easy way. So let me try to add it to /etc/rc2.d/ :)
[11:00] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, if you just link it to /etc/rc2.d/XXxxxx then it will only run in runlevel 2
[11:00] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, system-prefs-screen saver
[11:01] <protocol1> dxdemetriou, you mean hybernate?
[11:01] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, for simplicity i usually put the original scrit in /etc/init.d and ln -s it from there
[11:01] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, I did that, but It will be black after some time
[11:01] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Sounds like a plan.
[11:01] <dxdemetriou> protocol1, Not that. I can't work the hibernate yet
[11:02] <matt0440> I need to remove a file and it says access denied because i need to remove the file for flash player to work
[11:02] <pyroride> i have the multiverse options checked in synaptic but i still cant find certain packages
[11:02] <jonesssss> how do i change my mysql password and user pass wordfrom ssh?
[11:02] <Amaranth> pyroride: Such as?
[11:02] <gdb> matt0440: $ sudo rm filename
[11:02] <matt0440> is there a command?
[11:02] <matt0440> k
[11:02] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, nickrud, Amaranth, ECarroll, Thank you all for the help. :)
[11:02] <pyroride> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:02] <gdb> matt0440: Sounds like an ownership issue.  sudo will allow you to remove the file as teh root user.   I would suggest moving it rather than deleting it, however.
[11:02] <hangfire> matt- Go to preferences>power management
[11:03] <gdb> matt0440: Then delete it if you find it's absolutely not needed.
[11:03] <Amaranth> pyroride: that's in universe
[11:03] <pyroride> i have those enabled too
[11:03] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, you unselected activate screen saver when session is idle?
[11:03] <livingdaylight> What's the deal when i've downloaded stuff and it don't show up?
[11:03] <Amaranth> pyroride: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is in multiverse though
[11:03] <matt0440> thx
[11:03] <AlienX> is there a way to fix grub using the install CDs? I'm getting error 21 on boot
[11:04] <pyroride> Amaranth: i can't install either
[11:04] <pyroride> :(
[11:04] <livingdaylight> hello?
[11:04] <CokeNCode> how do i load the tuner module  ?
[11:04] <Dreamglider> i need glib 2.0
[11:04] <Amaranth> pyroride: did you hit the reload (refresh) button in synaptic?
[11:04] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: it's installed by default
[11:04] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, yes. It is something like Windows when I worked it, that if you have disable the screen saver, there are someware options for turning off the monitor, disk..
[11:05] <livingdaylight> arrr
[11:05] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: if you're compiling something you probably need libglib2.0-dev though
[11:05] <pyroride> Amaranth: thanks :)
[11:05] <livingdaylight> Well, i've downloaded VolumeControl and it aint there
[11:05] <sjau> anyone got a bluetooth headset to run in dapper?
[11:06] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: doesn't show up in the menus?
[11:06] <eXistenZ> Has anyone here got apache2 installed?
[11:06] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: if you can figure out what the program is called (to run it in a terminal) you can use alacarte to add it to your menus
[11:06] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: me
[11:06] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, I have no clue about what windows does, I never let it live long enough that the screensaver issue comes up
[11:06] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: thats right
[11:06] <carpediem> I think I've had apache2 for at least a year
[11:07] <eXistenZ> Amaranth, Can you please check where 'htdocs' resides?
[11:07] <paul_> Well I dont need any fixes thank god cause I just got dapper configured the way I wish it to work. Basic compilers and all including Sun's jdk. What I wish to know is on a multimedia level. Im asking for opinions on who thinks which is the best player for mp3, cd, etc. I have installed banshee and of course the one whiich came with setup thythmbox. Both are killer players in my opinion. What does everyone e4lse think?
[11:07] <Amaranth> eXistenZ: eh?
[11:07] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: in a previous install both breezy and dapper it is just there.  I don't have that hooked up right now.
[11:08] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, ok. I will search to find something. The problem is while I watching movie and the pc is idle. Thanks
[11:08] <kbrooks> Eleaf: get in #blendistribute
[11:08] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: in ADD/Remove Programs under sound there is volume control. I also went to synaptics and installed two volume control clients and none show up in menus
[11:08] <eXistenZ> carpediem, I don't know what happened to my apache
[11:08] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: oh, i believe those are hidden by default
[11:09] <eXistenZ> carpediem, it says "File does not exist: /htdocs/"
[11:09] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, that should work. You can disable all off that by commenting out Option "DPMS" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , I think. As a big stick.
[11:09] <eXistenZ> carpediem, is it supposed to be in / ?
[11:09] <carpediem> eXistenZ: /var/www
[11:09] <morden> anyone got a nice howto how to get bluetooth headset working in dapper?
[11:09] <anima> can someone recommend a terminal-based email client?
[11:09] <zipper_> !xgl
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[11:09] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: as i said i always had a volume controller in menus before after installing
[11:09] <beerockxs> anyone know what would cause lowercase umlauts to be narrower than the normal corresponding letter?
[11:09] <Amaranth> livingdaylight: start up alacarte (Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor) and make sure they've got tick marks in the Sound section
[11:10] <dxdemetriou> nickrud, I like the command line. thanks :)
[11:11] <ydnar> !compiz
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[11:11] <nickrud> beerockxs, the font definition
[11:11] <nickrud> anima, mutt
[11:12] <livingdaylight> Amaranth: ok, now i feel stupid, Doh...i swear i didn't used to have to do that. It would just be in menus after installing - thx!
[11:12] <anima> perfect, thanks nickrud
[11:12] <beerockxs> nickrud: is monospace bugged or what?
[11:12] <nickrud> anima, it is a perfect little program :)
[11:12] <JeevesBond> Hello all, I have a stupid question if you don't mind (I did Google for the answer but couldn't find anything)
[11:13] <nickrud> beerockxs, I changed fonts almost immediately myself. Matter of taste mostly
[11:13] <AlienX> is there a way to fix grub using the install CDs? I'm getting error 21 on boot
[11:13] <JeevesBond> And here it is: How do I find my installed version of GTK?
[11:13] <nickrud> JeevesBond, dpkg -L libglib2.0-0
[11:14] <beerockxs> nickrud: it happens with several fonts
[11:14] <void^> JeevesBond: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0
[11:14] <kieranDOA> is there an easy way to log someone out, thats logged in via ssh
[11:14] <void^> ah.. too slow
[11:14] <nickrud> beerockxs, I don't use umauts much so I don't have much of an opinion of what they should look like :)
[11:14] <kieranDOA> Well an easier way than ps aux | grep ssh; kill <pid>
[11:15] <beerockxs> nickrud: well the o umlaut should be just as wide as the o itself, not narrower.
[11:15] <JeevesBond> Aha! I tried both methods ^void and they both worked. So thanks to both of you! ;-)
[11:15] <dxdemetriou> The DPMS in xorg.conf is only for monitor?
[11:15] <Dreamglider> oh dear
[11:15] <nickrud> dxdemetriou, yes
[11:15] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[11:16] <nickrud> beerockxs, you could install msttcorefonts, it's verdana arial & friends
[11:16] <beerockxs> nickrud: it happens with those as well
[11:16] <anima> I'm getting some errors on installing the mutt package: ////// E: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:17] <AlienX> are there advanced install options in ubuntu?
[11:17] <dxdemetriou> Because it mentioned that, the hibernate normally works or it needed some configuration?
[11:17] <anima> dependency problems with postfix?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> AlienX: oem install
[11:17] <AlienX> gnomefreak, where's that option?
[11:18] <JeevesBond> AlienX: I'm pretty sure you can get a command line if you go into recovery mode
[11:18] <gnomefreak> anima: i dont htink thats depends i think that postfix issues maybe try to reinstall postfix
[11:18] <gnomefreak> AlienX: on the alternative cd
[11:18] <matt0440> i downloaded real player for linux now how do in install??
[11:18] <anima> Trying that now, thanks gnomefreak
[11:18] <pyroride> when i installed ubuntu there are disk drives (icons) on the desktop of all partitions
[11:18] <pyroride> are they save to highlight and delete
[11:18] <AlienX> JeevesBond, i can't even get into recovery mode through grub...does't go that far
[11:18] <AlienX> gnomefreak, sweet, i'll find that
[11:18] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure they still have it on the text installer
[11:19] <matt0440>  i downloaded real player for linux now how do in install??
[11:19] <gnomefreak> AlienX: what are you trying to do?
[11:19] <daxxar> Hmm
[11:19] <JeevesBond> Ahhhh, ok. Yes you're right gnomefreak
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matt0440 -about restricted
[11:19] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: what am i right about?
[11:19] <AlienX> gnomefreak, i just installed ubuntu on a slave drive on this computer, i'm getting a grub error 21 on boot which means grub doesn't know where to look to boot.
[11:19] <nickrud> pyroride, ubuntu seems to show every partiton mounted on /media on the desktop. If you create mount points for those partitions somewhere else in the fileysystem, those icons will disappear.
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: reinstall with that cd grub sometimes does that
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: put grub on mbr
[11:20] <daxxar> Thunderbird gives me 'Mozilla Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Mozilla-Thunderbird process, or restart your system.'. There's no TB-process running, and I've rebooted, but it still gives me this message. ANyone know the cause?
[11:20] <JeevesBond> That you can get to advanced stuff using the alternate install cd
[11:20] <luis_> how can I configure deskbar for when I press 'enter'  the search is done by default in google (firefox)?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: ah
[11:20] <gnomefreak> JeevesBond: if they still have that option
[11:20] <hmrocha> hello
[11:20] <pyroride> nickrud: thank you
[11:20] <AlienX> gnomefreak, so i can use the normal install cd to do it? I didn't even see an option to put grub on the mbr, etc.
[11:20] <matt0440> gnome freak: realplayer for linux
[11:20] <hmrocha> i have an epson stylus c44
[11:20] <anima> Yep, it looks like the installation of postfix is goofy, went through the configuration, and some errors popped up ...
[11:20] <JeevesBond> Am 99% certain I used it when messing around.
[11:20] <gnomefreak> AlienX: using the livecd (desktop cd)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> matt0440: read the pm ubotu sent you
[11:20] <AlienX> gnomefreak, that's the one i have. I'll give it another go
[11:21] <hmrocha> the output of the test page is very ugly
[11:21] <gnomefreak> AlienX: im not sure about that one i can only install livecd on this pc and its only a 10gig drive so no need for 2 os's
[11:21] <noob> I hate all that moving text
[11:21] <noob> Can i get rid of it
[11:21] <hmrocha> i used escputil to check the ink levels and they're fine
[11:21] <gnomefreak> noob: what scrolling text?
[11:21] <noob> when u start ubuntu
[11:21] <hmrocha> but i can't align the heads and print a nozzle pattern
[11:22] <hmrocha> i don't know why
[11:22] <hmrocha> any help?
[11:22] <AlienX> gnomefreak, makes sense. I'll see if i can find the advanced install options and go from there
[11:22] <CrashProne> Anyone know where I can figure out how to run a few servers(teamspeak, vnc) under separate (non-root) users when Ubuntu starts up?
[11:22] <noob> can i put a bootscreen on ubuntu?
[11:22] <Whoops> holy freak.........flash player download is taking for ever
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Whoops: it happens
[11:22] <pyroride> is anyone elses firefox icon a blue globe?
[11:22] <pppoe_dude> noob, there should be the orange one by default
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. I'm back. adding the iwconfig line to /etc/rc.local did the trick (I didn't have luck with linking from a script in /etc/init.d/ :()
[11:23] <Whoops> very slow
[11:23] <boha_> pyroride,  mine
[11:23] <squiddle> pyroride  yes, it is the default icon for webbrowser
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ic
[11:23] <noob> i want a full-color bootscreen with no text below!
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pyroride, Yes. Mine is a blue globe
[11:23] <CrashProne> Ech! There's something weird about that to me, too, Whoops, and I don't know why.  I actually got a friend of mine to download it for me and send it over his HTTP server to me. ><
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, ic?
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Oh. I see. :)
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i see :)
[11:23] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, well did you fix the problem either way?
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I do not use any abbreviations if I can avoid it.
[11:23] <Whoops> thanks Crash
[11:23] <pyroride> i wonder if it can be turned into the firefox icon
[11:23] <jatilq> hello all
[11:23] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Listen. I think I may actually have a bug. :(
[11:24] <squiddle> pyroride  yes in the menueeditor
[11:24] <noob> note: i use LILO, and i dont see usplash
[11:24] <Michael> hello, i am trying to use Alacarte menu editor. When i make modifications to the menu in the application, it does nothing on the real menu
[11:24] <Michael> anyone know whats wrong? anyone else experienced this?
[11:24] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what kind of bug?
[11:24] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, On roughly every other run "apt-get install whatever" forces the machine to reboot! Any ideas what might be causing this?
[11:24] <CrashProne> Anyone know where I can figure out how to run a few servers(teamspeak, vnc) under separate (non-root) users when Ubuntu starts up?
[11:24] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sounds like a bug
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Aww man.
[11:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what kind of reboot?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, How well tested is Ubuntu 6.06?
[11:25] <noob> how come usplash dont work with lilo?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Not sure I know what you mean.
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I guess it's a soft reboot
[11:25] <squiddle> CrashProne  you can write you own init scripts. starting the programs using su or trying the daemon-tools
[11:25] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does it automatically reboot or ask you first?
[11:25] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I mean. I get back to grub after it crashes.
[11:25] <crimsun_> noob: it does.
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> oh. thats not good gentoo_helper
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: i dont see it
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, If it asked me, I would have refused the reboot, so of course it didn't ask. :(
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yeah. This much I know.
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: i see black and white text
[11:26] <CrashProne> squiddle, I dunno how I'd start them under a non-root user though-- if I did them under su, then the VNC would be root-user and a security risk--
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually. My first experience with ubuntu went very poorly too. :(
[11:26] <crimsun_> noob: did you update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:26] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I tried kubuntu on amd64 (back around version 5.0.x or so)
[11:26] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, any error messages? paste /var/log/syslog in a pastebin
[11:26] <noob> crimsun_: how do u do that?
[11:27] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, If I see anything worth noting, I'll post it in.
[11:27] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, usually ubuntu is pretty stable
[11:27] <squiddle> CrashProne  su nobody -c myserver
[11:27] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yeah. I know. That's why I wanted to give it another shot. To give it the benefit of the doubt. Ok. Let me go look at my logs...
[11:27] <CrashProne> squiddle Really?? thaaanks
[11:28] <squiddle> np
[11:28] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I was also getting random lockups for a while there, but commenting out the DRI line in xorg.conf did the trick.
[11:28] <albacker> what's the .pdf reader in UBUNTU ?
[11:28] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:28] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, That's odd. I see some listings from cron that don't look at all right...Here they are
[11:28] <squiddle> albacker  evince
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4419] : (CRON) INFO (pidfile fd = 3)
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, might just be your copmuter's configuration. some hardware is not perfectly supported in ubuntu out of the box
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4420] : (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok)
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> Jun 10 17:21:52 localhost /usr/sbin/cron[4420] : (CRON) INFO (Running @reboot jobs)
[11:29] <squiddle> albacker  or *shudder* acroread
[11:29] <albacker> yeah evince *
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...This is some old hardware from emachines. Pretty standard as far as I can tell.
[11:29] <albacker> squiddle, thnx
[11:29] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Why on earth would cron have a reboot job?
[11:29] <Leonox> hi
[11:29] <yggdrasil> hello, can somone help me out with my problem. I started using kde and i changed the color theme and it carried over to my gnome, so i changed those colors back and now gnome wont start up. just got flux installed but i would like gnome back... looking for something to erase
[11:29] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, lol. no idea, but maybe something is triggering it
[11:29] <squiddle> gentoo_helper  to make it more like windows
[11:30] <gentoo_helper> squiddle, Very funny. :)
[11:30] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:30] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Nothing should "trigger" a cron job except the time at which it is set to execute. :(
[11:30] <ube> hey guys
[11:31] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, And besides, what does apt-get have to do with cron? Hmm... :-/
[11:31] <noob> crimsun_ how do u update lilo to use the initramfs?
[11:31] <ech0> does anyone know how I can install fuse on my system? apt-cache search fuse-module returns no results
[11:31] <crimsun_> noob: cat /proc/cmdline
[11:32] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: hi :P
[11:32] <AngryElf> hey guys -- amarok won't play my mp3s, i've installed gstreamer-ugly -- since amarok uses xine, i tried to "xine file.mp3" and it tells me that there's no plugin available.....any ideas?
[11:32] <crimsun_> AngryElf: you need libxine-extracodecs
[11:32] <MarsRouter> hi
[11:32] <apokryphos> AngryElf: FAQ
[11:32] <MarsRouter> knorrie: hi
[11:32] <chavo> AngryElf, you need libxine-extracodecs
[11:32] <ninjaplimsoles> yo folks
[11:32] <ech0> modprobe fuse returns: FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[11:32] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...I don't see anything in the logs.
[11:32] <ninjaplimsoles> whats the name of a Terminal emulator that can use PROPER transparency?
[11:33] <ninjaplimsoles> i thought rxvt-unicode was it, but it looks like its built in the 80's
[11:33] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::Actually Im currebtly on FC4
[11:33] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sounds very weird
[11:33] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: it can, you just need a newer version than what's in Ubuntu Dapper.
[11:33] <apokryphos> ninjaplimsoles: I don't think there is one yet; though any program with xgl+compiz can use real transparency
[11:33] <MarsRouter> i used Ubuntu as it i sdebian based , i fell it faster tahn FC
[11:33] <ninjaplimsoles> ive installed the latest from the universe repos
[11:33] <noob> CRIMSUN_ HOW DO U UPDATE LILO TO USE THE INITRAMFS?
[11:33] <apokryphos> noob: no caps please
[11:33] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i use ubuntu on my desktop pc, yes, it is based on debian, so you will find 'all' packages from debian in ubuntu
[11:33] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I know...It's hard being away from my gentoo machine. :) Besides, if this machine is for my mother all the kinks have to be worked out.
[11:33] <crimsun_> noob: I asked you a question. Have you answered it?
[11:34] <spikeb> ninjaplimsoles: you want a transparent console?
[11:34] <ech0> anyone?
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does apt-get update crash too?
[11:34] <AngryElf> crimsun_, chavo thanx
[11:34] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i don't know whether it's faster
[11:34] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Yes. IT does. I just tried it and it forced a reboot.
[11:34] <ninjaplimsoles> im running XGL/Compiz and want a proper transparent terminal, not some pseudo-terminal background that uses your wallpaper in some ropey way
[11:34] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, rxvt-unicode is the one
[11:34] <spikeb> oh
[11:34] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::know i want to confirm taht like i use tools in FC ie NMAP, HTTPD & their GUI is it found in Ubuntu ?
[11:34] <ChrisCrepon> lol http://www.infowars.com/cartoons_8.htm
[11:34] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i like the debian way of managing my systems
[11:34] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i've never had this kind of thing before. i would expect something to be in the logs
[11:34] <nostalg1c> is there a package for monodevelop in ubuntu?
[11:35] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: why don't you just use transset then?
[11:35] <jatilq> hard to find updated media packages like mozilla-mplayer or other multimedia resources
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, does synaptic crash?
[11:35] <ninjaplimsoles> i only want the bg to be transparent, not the entire window ;)
[11:35] <pyroride> does anyone know if it's possible to take a screenshot (of the desktop) and have a movie with totem be included with the screenshot?
[11:35] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Does apt-get have a log? The dpkg log shows nothing unusual.
[11:35] <MarsRouter> i tried FreeBSd too but MY VGA cant run X on that
[11:35] <jatilq> to add to my source list
[11:35] <pyroride> the screen stays black on a screenshot
[11:35] <ech0> nostalg1c: apt-get install monodevelop
[11:35] <siriusnova> hrm
[11:35] <siriusnova> hey guys
[11:35] <MarsRouter> knorrie ::i tried FreeBSd too but MY VGA cant run X on that
[11:35] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually synaptic has caused the reboot as well (and it froze up a few times, but i think I took care of that).
[11:35] <siriusnova> is there any way to merge 2 ext3 partitions?
[11:35] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i think the dpkg log is also for apt-get, apart from the apt-get install log
[11:35] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ nearly almost any software that exists for linux is packaged
[11:35] <ninjaplimsoles> hi sirius
[11:35] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: "the background?"
[11:35] <siriusnova> like merge an empty ext3 partition into my current one
[11:36] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: i rarely have to package software myself
[11:36] <MarsRouter> Knorrie:: thanks
[11:36] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well. dpkg is pretty uneventful. :(
[11:36] <siriusnova> like how you can merge NTFS partitions
[11:36] <ech0> nostalg1c: when you want to search for a package, do apt-get update, apt-cache search x
[11:36] <ninjaplimsoles> nevermind crimsun_
[11:36] <crimsun_> ninjaplimsoles: i.e., you want the window border and title bar non-transparent but the rest of the window transparent?
[11:36] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, did you check your X log? seems to have had problems with X before... maybe something going on there
[11:36] <jatilq> i did that kind of search
[11:36] <nostalg1c> it says it can't find a package named monodevelop
[11:36] <jatilq> but hard to get a player that will work with firefox
[11:36] <nostalg1c> i searched for it using that gui package manager but no luck
[11:36] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, I use rxvt-unicode and it works fine for me
[11:37] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me check.
[11:37] <ninjaplimsoles> chavo, how do i change atributes such as typeface colour etc?
[11:37] <jatilq> I use vlc but need a player that wont skip in xgl
[11:37] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, all on the commandline
[11:38] <nickrud> nostalg1c, you need some better /etc/apt/sources, there are good ones at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for dapper
[11:38] <adamant1988> anyone know where I can find java 1.5 it's not in the repos...
[11:38] <jatilq> anyone have any good
[11:38] <ninjaplimsoles> aah thats right! any urls for stuff to feed the command line?
[11:38] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well. It is complaining about my mouse being treated as a wacom tablet, but beyond that it looks O.K. There are also a few warning about the S3 ProSavage card having difficulties with BIOS settings, but I don't see how that would effect things that take place on the commandline)
[11:38] <eXistenZ> hey
[11:38] <ninjaplimsoles> cant find an FAQ :(
[11:38] <eXistenZ> I installed php5, but it won't get loaded into apache
[11:38] <nostalg1c> ech0?
[11:38] <jatilq> sources for win32codecs all and or good media player?
[11:39] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, there's was something on the ubuntuforums but I can't remember
[11:39] <krazykit> adamant1988: enable multiverse
[11:39] <ninjaplimsoles> thanks chavo
[11:39] <adamant1988> krazy, it's enabled already
[11:39] <MarsRouter> Knorrie : rpm is much easy way to even install sources is ubuntu that much easy? th ebiggest issue i face in Linux was JAVA run time & Netbeans JAVA compiler installation
[11:39] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, It does state at the end of the wacom tablet errors that it configured the mouse properly though...
[11:39] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, weird. maybe try shutting down X then doing an apt-get from the virtual terminal
[11:39] <kermitX_> jatilq, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:39] <Kyral> MarsRouter: There is a reason.  It's not enabled by default.
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me give that a shot and then I'll get back to you.
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, just so that maybe you can see a trigger point or somethn
[11:40] <nostalg1c> nickrud: excuse my ignorance, but how do i enable that?
[11:40] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: just one command to create a .deb package with the sun-j2sdk
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, killall X && killall gdm
[11:40] <adamant1988> krazykit: it has java 1.4 in it, but I need 1.5 to play this web game I want.
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I should point out though that once it has failed the first time, the second apt-get does NOT trigger a reboot.
[11:40] <Kyral> Besides, Java blows lol
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i c
[11:40] <Kyral> Gimme Python or Perl anyday :D
[11:40] <MarsRouter> Knorre:: hmmm seems easy
[11:40] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, No need to space them out...I understand "ic" now. :)
[11:40] <AlienX> Kyral, yeah, but without java you're in a world of hurt when it comes to online apps
[11:40] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ;)
[11:41] <krazykit> adamant1988: using dapper?
[11:41] <Kyral> AlienX: PHP
[11:41] <adamant1988> krazykit: yes, I'm in dapper
[11:41] <Kyral> AlienX: and Python and Perl :P
[11:41] <krazykit> adamant1988: then you should have 1.5 in multiverse.
[11:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Let me try that, and then I'll get back to you. Perhaps I'll try a second apt-get after "upgrade" so I can get irssi and troubleshoot from the VT.
[11:41] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here goes.
[11:41] <adamant1988> but I don't... is something wrong here?
[11:41] <nostalg1c> nickrud?
[11:41] <adamant1988> I used easyubuntu to enable the multiverse..
[11:41] <krazykit> the package is sun-java5-jre
[11:41] <tomnix> Hello all im new to ubuntu / this irc channel (Y)
[11:42] <morden> anyone can help me with bluetooth? I got my phone paired and when I press the volume buttons on the headset I get in the terminal a feedback on that... however in Skype I hear nothing
[11:42] <Knorrie> MarsRouter: sure, it's easy, just read the docs for a few minutes (man make-jpkg and /usr/share/doc/<package>)
[11:42] <pppoe_dude> hey tomi
[11:42] <pppoe_dude> *tomnix
[11:42] <Knorrie> tomnix: welcome
[11:42] <nickrud> nostalg1c, if you don't know what repos and components are, I's suggest looking over !components and !repos below
[11:42] <nickrud> !components
[11:42] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:42] <nickrud> !repos
[11:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[11:42] <adamant1988> krazykit: I have that.. and it's installed..
[11:43] <nullified> Hi guys, How do i make linux use a certain version of Java, At the moment its saying its using java version "1.4.2"
[11:43] <adamant1988> well this is odd... I have two java programs installed...
[11:43] <nickrud> nullified, sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java
[11:43] <chavo> ninjaplimsoles, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15492 here's the command I use to launch urxvt and I explained each option.
[11:43] <nullified> thanks nickrud
[11:43] <nostalg1c> nickrud: thanks
[11:43] <krazykit> adamant1988: use what nickrud just said, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java`
[11:43] <lucasvo> anybody using openmosix?
[11:43] <nickrud> nostalg1c, after you've got universe & multiverse enabled, there's about 8,000 programs out there :)
[11:43] <tomnix> nickrud you know how you say that it gives me three options, how do i get it to show the sun java 5 ?
[11:43] <DustyDingo> hm, any idears how i can get rid of that gam_server process, using 16% CPU?
[11:44] <DustyDingo> and please don't bother me with "kill"
[11:44] <eXistenZ> Is it possible to check a more detailed log of what a package installs when it is installed?
[11:44] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: sure, how detailed?
[11:44] <tnks> Earlier, someone indicated that ubuntu sets up power management nicely (relative to the non-setup in Debian).  How does ubuntu manage speedstep for laptops?  A user-space daemon?  Or a kernel with a built-in frequency governor?
[11:44] <krazykit> eXistenZ: dpkg has an option for that.
[11:44] <nullified> nickrud: I get the reply nullified@Borked:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure --config java
[11:44] <nullified> Unknown option: c
[11:44] <krazykit> tnks: depends on how you set it up.
[11:44] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, I need to know what files it modifies.
[11:44] <eXistenZ> krazykit, what option
[11:44] <nickrud> tomnix, you see sun java listed in that command? If so, the number to the left
[11:45] <krazykit> eXistenZ: man dpkg
[11:45] <Knorrie> nullified: i think he meant update-alternatives
[11:45] <eXistenZ> krazykit, and apt-get?
[11:45] <nickrud> nullified, argh, sudo update-alternatives --config java ;)
[11:45] <nullified> thanks nickrud :-)!
[11:45] <krazykit> eXistenZ: i mean... dpkg has the option.  read the man page.
[11:45] <tnks> krazykit: just trying to get a feel of what Ubuntu does that's a step beyond Debian.
[11:45] <krazykit> tnks:
[11:45] <Knorrie> nullified: also --config javac and --config jar
[11:45] <krazykit> err
[11:46] <thenerdsangle> i can't find out if my info is out of date or not. does ubuntu support airport extreme?
[11:46] <krazykit> tnks: by default, it uses the performance daemon.  you can set it to one of the others by loading the modules (don't recall what they are, look it up) or switching it to userspace and using powernowd.  cpufreqd switches between the governers, i think
[11:46] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: dpkg -L foo  will tell you the list of files; if they're conffiles they won't necessarily be in that output. You'd need to see dpkg -D3773
[11:46] <benplaut> anyone know of a program for MIDI stuff... composing music?
[11:47] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, how can I know what has the package modified in some files?
[11:47] <CrashProne> How do I edit initscripts?
[11:47] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: diff before-and-after versions
[11:47] <AlienX> just tried to re-install ubuntu and grub is still giving me an error 21
[11:47] <krazykit> CrashProne: with an editor.
[11:47] <adamant1988> krazykit: thanks, the problem was that I had two enviroments...
[11:47] <CrashProne> As in, I don't know where they are.
[11:47] <krazykit> CrashProne: it's just plain text.  make sure to back it up
[11:48] <nullified> Thanks all solved my issues
[11:48] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: p{re,ost}{re,inst} will give you more clues
[11:48] <feg> i can't find the init scritp that run wpa_supplicant. where is it?
[11:48] <krazykit> CrashProne: back them up first... /etc/init.d/*
[11:48] <SurfnKid> How can I check if my Linksys , WUSB12v1 802.11 Adapter works with Dapper?
[11:48] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: sorry, p{re,ost}{rm,inst}
[11:48] <CrashProne> Oh yeah, there! >_<  Hehe
[11:48] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. As expected. Things went OK.
[11:48] <feg> cause i don't need wpa_supplicant on my laptop
[11:48] <anima> Can anyone remember that one GPG Key manager that sits in the panel?
[11:48] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid, I'm having problems with my Linksys USB adapter.
[11:49] <crimsun_> feg: we don't use an initscript.
[11:49] <GuardianAtomos> It freezes Dapper when I enable it.
[11:49] <jadacyrus> whats the filesystem type for mountin an .iso image?
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I am now going to try and install a piece of software from within an xterm. Bear with me, as the machine might crash again.
[11:49] <jadacyrus> i beleive its a dvd iso
[11:49] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[11:49] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, is that the same one? which driver did u use
[11:49] <salah> hi. does flash work with firefox 1.5.04?
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Here goes.
[11:49] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, I'm trying to figure out why the php package doesn't copy the files php5something.conf and something.load to mods-available in apache2
[11:49] <tomnix> nickrud yeah i think i do, although shows a different version. ahh well it functions now so its ok, ill ask for some more help when im not on via vnc its a bit slow
[11:49] <crimsun_> eXistenZ: then check the preinst and postinst scripts
[11:49] <feg> crimsun_, well, i can't find it in gnome-session too?what can i do to stop daemon?
[11:49] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid: I have the WUSB54Gv4 I think. I have no clue what driver.
[11:49] <gentoo_helper> Looks good so far.
[11:50] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, What site can I look for the driver
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> The one that Dapper installed for me.
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Looks good so far.
[11:50] <SurfnKid> GuardianAtomos, oh ok
[11:50] <eXistenZ> crimsun_, what scripts?
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> salah, it should. did u install flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> SurfnKid: Oh, it didn't even install it...
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok. That went just fine...
[11:50] <crimsun_> feg: just don't use wpasupplicant stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, so its not really 100% reproducible?
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I still think this may be a bug.
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> Is there a way to install Dapper without booting in Live Eval mode first?
[11:50] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Actually I think I know how to reproduce this.
[11:50] <MarsRouter> Knorrie : whats about MP3 & WMV movied on Ubuntu?
[11:50] <GuardianAtomos> Similar to how Badgerworked?
[11:50] <salah> pppoe_dude: firefox have a tool for installing flash, but that don't work, and I don't know which other plugin to use
[11:51] <eXistenZ> GuardianAtomos, Check out alternate cd
[11:51] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Allow me to restart the machine, and then run apt-get. It may have something to do with the very first run of apt-get.
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> salah, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, ok
[11:51] <feg> crimsun_, i /etc/network/interfaces i have only lo. the interfaces are managed by nmanager
[11:51] <pppoe_dude> salah, make sure you have the multiverse repositories enabled
[11:51] <GuardianAtomos> eXistenZ: Oh okay. Didn't think about a different version.
[11:51] <GuardianAtomos> I'll look it up. Thanks.
[11:52] <crimsun_> feg: if it really bothers you, just uninstall the wpasupplicant package, which will remove the symlinks to /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh in /etc/network/if-p{re-up,ost-down}.d/
[11:53] <lucasvo> !kernel
[11:53] <echostorm> I was wondering if anyone knows of a program for processig nzb's that actually works? NZB in the repository doesnt connect for szome reason and i havent found any other worthwhile linux apps.
[11:53] <salah> pppoe_dude: thanks :)
[11:54] <anima> Can anyone recommend a GTK GPG key manager frontend?
[11:54] <crimsun_> salah: you can't use Firefox's "built-in" Flash installer. You need to use flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.
[11:54] <lucasvo> anima: seahorse
[11:54] <feg> crimsun_, well, it doesn't bother me, but i wanted to understand HOW it is called. now i know. thx
[11:54] <Jowi> anima: gpa
[11:54] <pppoe_dude> salah, no problem
[11:55] <Geoffrey2> now, all of the primary repositories (main, restricted, universe, and multiverse) can be accessed through Synaptic, right?
[11:55] <anima> Thanks
[11:55] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Well...I didn't even make it as far as rebooting. The machine locked up after I reached the ubuntu page! (I was looking for a package to install)
[11:56] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, It appears I may still have an issue with my Xorg.conf
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, hmm... yes definitely something to do with display
[11:56] <apokryphos> Geoffrey2: yes, if they're enabled
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, what video card are you using?
[11:56] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Do you know how to deal with the high priority bug that was filed concerning lockups on systems with ATI graphics chipsets?
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> s/definitely/probably
[11:56] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry nope
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude,  S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, That's my graphics card.
[11:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, oh. is that via?
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I guess S3 isn't ATI but they did have an agreement at one point.
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, I'm pretty sure it's a via.
[11:57] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, sorry back in 2 mins
[11:57] <gentoo_helper> pppoe_dude, Ok.
[11:58] <Echelon-H> where's xgl init script?
[11:58] <Geoffrey2> apokryphos, ok, so there'd be no particular need to go in and manually edit the source file?
[11:59] <gerardomt> Hoi
[11:59] <pppoe_dude> gentoo_helper, i've had problems in breezy with the km266 iirc...
[11:59] <gerardomt> Can you help me?
[11:59] <Echelon-H> where's xgl init script?
[11:59] <ech0> how do i check my diskspace via commandline?
[12:00] <chr1z> ech0: man df
[12:00] <kevin> df -h I think
[12:00] <djk_> how do i find out which kernel module a soundcard uses?
[12:00] <gerardomt> I have a printer, a canon ip1200 and i cant use it because ubuntu dosnt recognize it
[12:00] <ninjaplimsoles> how do i find out what kernel version im running?