[05:33] <bduk1> More almal
[05:45] <Kilos> hi bduk1 die_held bushtech and whoever else isnt frozen solid
[05:48] <bduk1> Neeman kilos.  ;o)
[06:51] <Kilos> haha
[06:52] <Kilos> the compose key option should have an enable button if you wanna disable it by default
[06:53] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452705/how-to-configure-compose-key-in-14-04
[06:53] <Kilos> i dont see the things in dconf that they do
[06:54] <Kilos> input-sources isnt there
[06:55] <drussell> Kilos: looking...
[06:57] <Kilos> the dev guys must make unity more user friendly for normal peeps not make things more difficult
[06:57] <drussell> Kilos: just so I'm clear, compose key works out of the box for you yes? but there's no way to disable it, correct?
[06:58] <Kilos> nosir it doesnt work
[06:58] <Kilos> ive tried left and right super and left and right alt
[06:58] <drussell> Kilos: that's fscked, it does here, definitely and I've not changed anything from a default install
[06:58] <drussell> ã
[06:58] <Kilos> oh my
[06:59] <drussell> Kilos: so for me it's hold down ã
[06:59] <drussell> lol
[06:59] <Kilos> where is that a thing
[06:59] <drussell> Kilos: so for me it's hold down the left shift key, tap the right AltGR key and then use the compose sequence I want, i.e. ~ a = ã
[07:00] <Kilos> i use the degrees sign lots but cant get it here
[07:00] <Kilos> oi this kbd aint got the altgr thing
[07:00] <drussell> Kilos: what's the usual combination for that
[07:01] <Kilos> you hold the compose key and hit o twice
[07:01] <drussell> Kilos: (degrees I mean)
[07:01] <drussell> °
[07:01] <Kilos> there you go
[07:01] <drussell> hmm, yeah
[07:01] <drussell> Kilos: so try this exact combination....
[07:02] <drussell> Kilos: left or right shift, hold it down
[07:02] <drussell> Kilos: tap and release right Alt
[07:02] <Kilos> OO
[07:02] <drussell> Kilos: then do the oo
[07:02] <Kilos> OO
[07:02] <drussell> hmm sorry, when I say tap and release right alt, release the shift too
[07:02] <drussell> °
[07:03] <Kilos> ai!
[07:05] <drussell> Kilos: hold down shift, tap and release right alt key, release shift, type oo .... should get you °
[07:05] <Kilos> oo
[07:05] <drussell> Kilos: that is REALLY strange
[07:06] <drussell> Kilos: do me a favour, try switching to UK or US keymap just briefly, see if it's a keymap problem
[07:06] <Kilos> i am using us i think lemme look
[07:07] <Kilos> eish where do i find that
[07:08] <Kilos> my settings doesnt show input devices
[07:09] <Kilos> personal hardware and system options
[07:09] <drussell> system settings, keyboard, typing tab, link at the bottom that says text entry
[07:10] <drussell> input sources is there
[07:10] <Kilos> ya english us
[07:11] <Kilos> then if you go keyboard setting bottom right it shows compose key disabled
[07:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:16] <drussell> Kilos: yeah, same here but it still worked
[07:17] <drussell> Kilos: ok try this instead....
[07:19] <drussell> Kilos: on that window where it says disabled for the compose key hold down the left mouse button where it says disabled, and then select Right Alt
[07:19] <drussell> Kilos: then just tap right alt and oo
[07:19] <drussell> Kilos: °
[07:20] <Kilos> hehe lemme try that
[07:22] <Kilos> nope
[07:22] <drussell> Kilos: that is just whack
[07:23] <Kilos> lemme find a keyboard with altgr thing
[07:23] <drussell> Kilos: ok
[07:23] <Kilos> np drussell ty for trying
[07:23] <drussell> Kilos: also check the .xsession-errors file in your homedir to see if there are any errors there
[07:24] <Kilos> the pro helped me before, and i member now that i had to put the yucky sun keyboard in then set something and then go back to the lekker kb
[07:26] <Kilos> wbb
[10:41] <theblazehen> Anyone know the rough area where Kilos lives?
[10:41] <theblazehen> He might wanna look at wug.za.net
[10:41] <theblazehen> Maaz: tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net
[10:41] <Maaz> theblazehen: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[10:42] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[10:42] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net" 25 seconds ago
[10:42] <theblazehen> lol
[10:42] <Kilos> i dont think it reaches to here. ive looked at ptawug and they go past here to brits but will need to get the equipment
[10:43] <theblazehen> yeah. Maybe look at 2nd hand. GTG
[10:43] <Kilos> will do ty
[10:43] <Kilos> need a hdd before i cant think of other stuff
[10:50] <Private_User> afternoon all
[10:51] <Private_User> Hi Kilos
[10:51] <Private_User> Hi theblazehen
[10:53] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[10:54] <Private_User> my connectivity has been pathetic today, anybody else having issues?
[10:56] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, http://picpaste.com/Image0073-DaUWrZx5.jpg
[10:56] <Kilos> Private_User, ping google all the time
[10:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[10:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i didn't realise you meant an actual real-world hammer
[10:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> :P
[10:57] <Private_User> eish and still an issue, 26 sec delay on IRC
[10:57] <Kilos> then i can go do other stuff meantime
[10:57] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:57] <Private_User> Kilos: I sometimes try that but then ping can't even find host google
[10:58] <Kilos> lemme find the commands
[10:58] <Private_User> anybody else in here using CellC?
[10:58] <Kilos> here are 2 courtesy of the pro
[10:58] <Kilos> mtr -i2 -s0 -n <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <Kilos> time ping -i2 -s0 -c10 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <Kilos> i gotta go eat. wbb
[10:59] <Private_User> thanks
[10:59] <Kilos> oh you on win hey?
[11:00] <Private_User> yeah on the laptop that desktop still hangs randomly
[11:00] <Kilos> i will look for the script i have
[11:00] <Kilos> you didnt say what ram man
[11:01] <Kilos> wbb after lunch
[11:01] <Private_User> ok cool in the meantime I will check
[11:01] <Kilos> with luck i still have it. its called stay alive
[11:01] <Kilos> haha
[11:37] <Kilos> Private_User, http://slexy.org/view/s2zBLI5aXu
[11:38] <Kilos> that was supposed to help win peeps stay alive
[11:39] <Kilos> ive never used it as, imo win pcs are made for gaming at home not going online with
[11:39] <Kilos> hehe
[11:40] <Private_User> thanks Kilos, I also have the RAM info DDR 400MHz CL3.0
[11:40] <Private_User> thats whats written on one of them
[11:41] <Kilos> lemme check what i have here i member a 333 wil check others
[11:41] <Kilos> need to use magnifying glass to see that tiny stuff
[11:43] <Private_User> ah on the other side its says DDR4
[11:45] <Kilos> i have 2 512m ddr2 and one has a dicey sticker on
[11:45] <Kilos> oi
[11:45] <Kilos> google your motherboards specs and see what ram it should have
[11:46] <Private_User> but I think maybe I should as you suggested test power supply
[11:46] <Kilos> oh havent you done that yuet
[11:46] <Kilos> yet
[11:46] <Kilos> slacker
[11:46] <Private_User> lol
[11:46] <Kilos> borrow one somewhere
[11:47] <Private_User> nope not yet
[11:47] <Kilos> did you try switching power cords to the drive??
[11:47] <Private_User> yeah I will need to do that was just a bit busy doing some other stuff
[11:48] <Private_User> nope that too not yet
[11:48] <Kilos> ai!
[11:48] <Kilos> try that first , even swop withn the power cord from the cdrom/dvdrom
[11:49] <Kilos> oh my
[11:49] <Kilos> killed him
[11:53] <Kilos> JabberwockyA19, where you been?
[11:53] <JabberwockyA19> hi Kilos, I've been very sick
[11:53] <Kilos> aw, you better now?
[11:55] <Kilos> flu??
[11:55] <JabberwockyA19> I'm not 100% supposed to be at home today
[11:56] <Kilos> look after yourself man
[11:56] <JabberwockyA19> some soft of infection, major headache and nose bleed
[11:57] <JabberwockyA19> had a light fever too
[11:57] <Kilos> you been near malaria areas?
[11:57] <Kilos> mind you then you woulda had hot and cold spells too
[11:57] <JabberwockyA19> no, just here between home and work in cape town
[11:58] <Kilos> did you go to the doctor?
[12:25] <bduk1> Lekker naweeek vir almal
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i discovered you were right about TNT
[13:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> it doesn't destroy all ores actually, but in general use it only drops 1/3 of the items
[13:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> so in the 5x5x5 blast radius, which is 125 blocks, only about 41 are kept on average
[13:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> and the long tnt chains i built make it worse, because i only space them apart by 1 block, there is overlap so i end up destroying the vast majority of everything :'(
[13:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe superfly would be willing to change the TNT mod so that it drops all items instead of destroying 2/3 of them
[13:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> otherwise i'm done with TNT its too destructive
[13:39] <Kilos> hahaha  ThatGraemeGuy
[13:39] <Kilos> back to pick again
[13:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> indeed
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm going to play with a local version and see, maybe its too cpu intensive to keep all items
[13:40] <Kilos> im gonna keep going straight down till i get a nyan cat thing
[13:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> otherwise for something that is supposed to be a mining aid, it's a bit dumb that it destroys most of the objects its mining
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> um, nyan cat can occur anywhere under -32
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> going deeper doesn't make you more likely to find one
[13:41] <Kilos> i need someone to explain to me nicely about this host thing.
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> it could be at -33 under your house :P
[13:41] <Kilos> can one install server on a pc and host yourself or must you get an online host
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can host it yourself
[13:42] <Kilos> oi dont tnt near my house . took too long to build
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> but part of the fun is that multiple people work on the same world
[13:42] <Kilos> ya but then where do i get a link from
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> a link for what?
[13:43]  * ThatGraemeGuy confused
[13:43] <Kilos> i mean host yourself that others can use like the flys
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> you would need a permanent internet connection for that, its not really practical to host it from home
[13:43] <Kilos> an internet addy
[13:44] <Kilos> where do you get the internet addy from then
[13:45] <Kilos> like fly.info can that same kinda addy be used for a home server say
[13:45] <Kilos> someone with uncapped adsl or something
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> register a domain, set up dynamic dns somewhere
[13:45] <Kilos> with who do you register it
[13:46] <Kilos> and you gotta pay them to register?
[13:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> with a domain registrar and yet, you pay for it
[13:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's an annual fee. and then you need someone to host your DNS records which you can also pay for or find a good free one
[13:48] <Kilos> oi
[13:49] <drussell> Kilos: hey, you manage to sort out your issues with special characters?
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you have a static IP and you host the server you can just give people the ip and not worry about setting up a name
[13:50] <Kilos> nope drussell but i got a kb with that altgraph key
[13:51] <Kilos> now that sounds better ThatGraemeGuy
[13:51] <drussell> Kilos: and did that work?
[13:51] <Kilos> like ssh to a server with gui
[13:51] <Kilos> drussell, nope
[13:51] <Private_User> damn get ping replies from google of 3568ms
[13:51] <Kilos> i gave up for now
[13:51] <Private_User> this connection at the moments is crap
[13:51] <drussell> Kilos: bah, that's just really strange!
[13:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i think you've lost yourself in terminology
[13:52] <Kilos> Private_User, leave it running it speeds up
[13:52] <Kilos> well ThatGraemeGuy ive only used ssh to my other pc when i had server installed and to mages server
[13:52] <Kilos> but cli
[13:53] <Kilos> we need to be able to do that with gui
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can host a minetest server on any pc
[13:54] <Kilos> ok ThatGraemeGuy lets say you do it there, how would i then connect if you dont have a registered link
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i don't have a DNS name i just tell you the IP address
[13:55] <Kilos> and my minetest witll find it?
[13:56] <Kilos> will
[13:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> what do you mean by "find it"
[13:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> you must tell minetest the server address
[13:56] <Kilos> like we entered the flys addy in minetest will it find just an ip addy?
[13:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> address can be either a name or ip
[13:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> it doesn't find anything, you must enter  it
[13:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:59] <Kilos> i entered it here ya but it still had to go find the uk server
[13:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> sorry man i have no clue what you're on about now
[13:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe send me a screenshot
[13:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:00] <Kilos> nee man
[14:00] <Kilos> in minetest we enter flys info right?
[14:01] <Kilos> now with an unregistered pc with an ip addy how will this minetest know where it is
[14:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> how does it know where his is? you enter it
[14:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> minetest is just an app it doesn't "know" anything
[14:02] <Kilos> lemme try again
[14:02] <Kilos> if you go looking for a house you have the area and street name
[14:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[14:03] <Kilos> now how do you find a pandokkie in the veld with no street name or number
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmm
[14:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok here's where your analogy isn't working out
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> in terms of the internet, the name "minetest.snyman.info" isn't an address in the way you think
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> lets say like this
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> the address of the server is its IP address
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> and all the bits of equipment that make the internet work know exactly how to find that address
[14:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> the DNS name, like "minetest.snyman.info" is for us stupid humans, because its easier to remember than a bunch of numbers
[14:05] <Kilos> oi
[14:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> lets say you have a friend who lives at 134 voortrekker straat
[14:06] <Kilos> ok
[14:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you're going there, you don't say "I am going to 134 voortrekker straat"
[14:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> you would say "I am going to Jan's house"
[14:06] <Kilos> ya
[14:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> "Jan's house" is like the DNS name, and "134 voortrekker street" is like the IP address
[14:06] <Kilos> ah
[14:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> DNS is a big system that keeps track of what friendly names each address has
[14:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> so if you take an IP address <IP_ADDRESS>, there is (generally) only 1 place for that to be
[14:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> but in DNS you might call it by several friendly names
[14:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> mostly the name doesn't matter to your PC and all the bits of equipment that move data around, they just care about the IP address
[14:09] <Kilos> ok
[14:09] <Kilos> but now
[14:09] <Kilos> how can it find an ip if its not registered
[14:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's complicated, but like i said, you don't need a name
[14:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> the IP address is the address, and the routers of the internet have ways of figuring out where they are
[14:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> assuming by "registered" you meant "has a DNS name"
[14:11] <Kilos> ya isnt there some big register somewhere with all working ip's on it
[14:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> not really, each router shares information with its neighbours
[14:12] <Kilos> oi
[14:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> that part is really really complicated though
[14:13] <Kilos> sjoe this is bad enough
[14:13] <Kilos> much easier being a mechanic
[14:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> its only easier because you know it ;)
[14:14] <Kilos> spanner sizes are stamped on them
[14:14] <Trixar_za> Depends on if it's new or classic cars
[14:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> the way you feel about the inner workings of the internet is how i feel about my car
[14:14] <Kilos> oi
[14:14] <Trixar_za> If it's new, then any idiot can work on it. If it's classic, then it requires an expert touch
[14:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> i kinda have an idea how it works, but i don't really want to care, i just want to turn keys, push buttons and go
[14:14] <Kilos> lol
[14:15] <Kilos> Maaz, seen superfly
[14:15] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 18 hours, 55 minutes and 59 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-06-11 12:19:51 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-06-11 13:40:11 PDT
[14:16] <Kilos> i wonder where he is
[14:17] <Trixar_za> I'm going to try Flare RPG now
[14:17] <Trixar_za> It's an FLOSS Roleplaying game in the vain of Diablo
[14:17] <Kilos> ?
[14:18] <Kilos> aha
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://i.imgur.com/ELm91jo.png
[14:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: do you know what that grey bit on the map is?
[14:21] <Kilos> lemme go look
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> its a darker grey than the stone parts of the map, not sure what it represents
[14:22] <Kilos> have you been there?
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> for reference, the top left corner is my house, the grey square diagonally down from that is superfly's place, and just to the right of that is your place
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, i just noticed it earlier
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> but i'
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> but i'm at -2500 didn't feel like going up
[14:23] <Kilos> hahaha get a hammer then you can go make coffee while surfacing
[14:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i can teleport home, that's easy, its the trip back down that sucks
[14:24] <Kilos> man how do you teleport
[14:24] <Kilos> do you use co-ords
[14:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> actually now that you dug it as 1 long shaft i can actually just drop down the ladder. i realised that it stops every now and then when i hit the bottom of however far my pc has rendered the map
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> drop down the shaft i mean
[14:25] <Kilos> lol
[14:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> you need to use the set home button and then the go home button
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah i just have to remember to grab the ladder around -2500
[14:26] <Kilos> you better be ready to grab ladder before it hits bottom or you gonna splat really flat
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> going to try that later
[14:27] <Kilos> i still dunno how you teleport
[14:27] <Kilos> where you find the mod
[14:27] <Kilos> or plugin
[14:34] <Kilos> ha found it
[14:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> ya
[14:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> sorry, didn't see
[14:50] <Kilos> hmm... cant craft plastic sheet
[14:51] <Kilos> no option of 1,10 or all
[15:06] <Kilos> aha
[15:55] <Kilos> drussell, i, trying ther cli way with this link
[15:55] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/379633/make-super-window-as-compose-key-in-ubuntub?rq=1
[15:56] <Kilos> but last command im doing something wrong
[15:56] <Kilos> dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options ['compose:lwin']
[15:57] <Kilos> ive tried without the single quotes and square brackets
[15:59] <Kilos> error: 1-8:unknown keyword
[16:07] <Kilos> wbb
[16:26] <Kilos> inetpro, i need you and your store of knowledge please
[17:30] <Kilos> bushtech, you been very quiet
[17:31] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[17:31] <Kilos> wb
[17:49] <Kilos> Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy  this might be what you are looking for
[17:49] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[17:49] <Kilos> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4877
[17:49] <Kilos> oi
[17:50] <Kilos> Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy  this might be what you are looking for Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy  this might be what you are looking for
[17:50] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[17:50] <Kilos> oi
[17:50] <Kilos> dammit
[17:59] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:00] <superfly> hahahaha
[18:00] <Kilos> what?
[18:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> hellos
[18:23] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, you have a pile of memos waiting for you, too many to read out in public. PM me
[18:24] <Kilos> haha
[18:24] <Kilos> popular guy
[18:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems that way :P
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: thanks, could be interesting
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i want to fiddle with the tnt mod a bit
[18:26] <Kilos> how do you set the teleport thing
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh?
[18:26] <Kilos> right click and it asks for channel
[18:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, still no idea what you talking about
[18:27] <Kilos> teleport in the game
[18:27] <Kilos> you said you can only port home
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, it's added by the extended inventory screen mod
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> the /teleport command requires special permission
[18:28] <Kilos> oh my
[18:29] <Kilos> better i keep walking for now then
[18:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[18:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> this lua stuff seems quite straightforward, i think i should make lazy tnt, that puts all the exploded stuff in your inventory instead of having you pick it all up
[18:31] <Kilos> i wanna try something and see if you see it on the map tomorrow
[18:32] <Kilos> lol
[18:35] <Kilos> eeeek i mined into lava and had to run
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> in the shaft?
[18:35] <Kilos> the first one at my home
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah
[18:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok that was fun
[18:55] <Kilos> whT
[18:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> turns out making TNT too powerful is not good
[18:55] <Kilos> WHAT TOO
[18:55] <Kilos> oi
[18:55] <Kilos> i ran away from the lava
[18:56] <Kilos> all i wanted was some obsidian
[19:11] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[05:23] <neoteny_2nd> anyone in here been asking about lircmd not working besides me?
[05:24] <neoteny_2nd> seems there's a bug of sorts.  where lircm gets disabled by xorg
[05:24] <neoteny_2nd> the work around seems to work though.
[10:27] <linux_trojan> I am trying to watch TV on linux, but I keep getting "no device found", and I do have a Hauppauge 1250, so I feel I need to do some kind of "modprobe" but I am not sure how?
[10:39] <ddettman> linux_trojan:  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1250
[10:40] <linux_trojan> ok lemme see
[10:41] <ddettman> from your question you've got a bit of reading to do ;) well worth it though.
[10:41] <linux_trojan> yea I saw that, but that doesnt tell me why Ubuntu tells me NO DEVICE?
[10:44] <linux_trojan> I am running kernel 2.6.28-13-generic, it should work
[10:49] <linux_trojan> it keeps talking about Gentoo, I use Ubuntu, I dont think Gentoo is based on Debian
[14:02] <Essobi> Morning..
[14:04] <rhpot1991> morning
[17:16] <erhapp> Hello, Is there somebody who can walk me through the LIRC configuration? Since I don't know the workings of Lirc it's quite hard to troubleshoot.
[17:22] <superm1> dpkg-reconfigure lirc should be able to do most the configuration for you
[17:22] <superm1> well "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc"
[17:22] <superm1> it presents a little more options than MCC does
[17:27] <erhapp> superm1: thanks. Using dpkg-reconfigure I get: " * Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC                              [fail]
[17:27] <erhapp> "
[17:27] <superm1> erhapp, after reconfiguring, reboot. depending on what options you picked, some kernel modules need to be unloaded
[17:27] <superm1> it's not always safe to unload them, so the reconfigure script won't do that part for you
[17:47] <wombo> ping, superm1
[17:48] <superm1> ya what's up wombo
[17:48] <wombo> We are having a discussion on the #mythtv channel at the moment about the updates notification in ubuntu/mythbuntu
[17:48] <wombo> for some reason whenever we do a sudo apt-get update or similar remotely it opens up the updates screen ont he frontend
[17:49] <wombo> Do you know a way of not having this popup?
[17:49] <superm1> wombo, it should be popping up behind myth
[17:49] <superm1> if it's not, that's a bug (and an annoying one to debug!)
[17:49] <wombo> it sort of does
[17:49] <wombo> I cant remember exactly
[17:49] <superm1> if you use mcc from the mythbuntu-testing PPA it has an option to change the behavior back to the old update-manager behavior
[17:50] <superm1> (or from karmic)
[17:50] <wombo> but I think it stays behind, but the top bar of the OS goes ontop
[17:50] <wombo> yeah I am using trunk-PPA
[17:50] <superm1> dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos and add -testing too then
[17:50] <superm1> and you can get the mcc update
[17:51] <wombo> Yeah I normally update each friday
[17:52] <superm1> not enough people are on karmic, so it would be good to get more feedback on the mcc changes too
[17:52] <superm1> they are quite vast..
[17:52] <wombo> karmic = 9.10?
[17:52] <superm1> yah
[17:52] <wombo> yeah im not on it yet
[17:53] <wombo> maybe another month before I start trying
[17:53] <wombo> the next Myth should be out in about the same time frame I hope
[17:53] <superm1> yeahi hope so, otherwise it will be hard to squeeze it into karmic
[17:53] <wombo> their focus has definately changed in recent weeks
[17:54] <wombo> alot more triage is happening
[17:54] <superm1> good to hear
[17:55] <wombo> have you added the Graphite theme into Mythbuntu?
[17:55] <wombo> I have added it manually at the moment
[17:55] <superm1> not yet
[17:55] <superm1> it's dependent on 0.22
[17:55] <superm1> so hasn't made sense to do so
[17:55] <wombo> yeah sorry I meant for the trunk PPA
[17:55] <superm1> is it gonna get distributed in the main themes package?
[17:56] <meshe> undetermined at this point
[17:56] <superm1> if so, that will make it significantly easier to get in ubuntu/mythbuntu
[17:56] <wombo> not sure, but I expect so. It is definately utilising the MythUI better than any other theme
[17:57] <superm1> is someone making a list of themes that break with 0.22?
[17:57] <meshe> it sounds like the author wants it to be
[17:57] <wombo> If it was up to me I would only put Graphite and the other theme in. Clear out the rest
[17:58] <superm1> yeah a lot of them are crap
[17:58] <superm1> just wasting CD and install space
[17:58] <wombo> Terra thats the name of the other one
[23:32] <MythbuntuGuest59> I installed myth on a pc, it is working, I want to use it as a media server elsewhere in the house, I have 2 windows machines and 1 ubuntu 9.04, what settings need applied and where are they?


[04:37] <Juzzy> i have a s3 and an i4s
[04:37] <Juzzy> imo the s3 is a tad akwardly too big
[04:37] <Juzzy> it's definetly a 2-handed device which i find inconvienent
[07:48] <cyberanger> alyawn: You going to DC423 on the 14th?
[07:51] <cyberanger> I should be, and if I read the hints right, dinner should be good
[15:35] <alyawn> yes, I'm planing on it
[15:35] <alyawn> cyberanger, you know there is a ##dc423 channel on here
[15:49] <Ubik> cyberanger owes me $10
[15:51] <wrst> Ubik: cyberanger will never pay you back just forget it :)
[16:30] <Ubik> figures!
[16:30] <cyberanger> alyawn: yes, but like chugalug, it was dead awhile, 48+ hours
[16:32] <cyberanger> Ubik: referring to the name badge, I forgot about that, been working nearly every tuesday for months
[16:33] <cyberanger> joe told me at the block party
[16:33] <cyberanger> I think wrst thought you were joking
[16:34] <wrst> ha ha oh you really do owe 10 bucks cyberanger?
[16:34] <wrst> :)
[16:38] <cyberanger> wrst: just haven't gotten to a meeting to turn it in
[16:39] <cyberanger> then, due to lack of meetings, forgot
[16:39] <wrst> well if that is the case Ubik he will pay since he really owes it :)
[16:40]  * cyberanger fearfully wonders if he'd have to mail it in with club fees at this rate
[16:57] <Ubik> lol
[16:57] <Ubik> I think they sold the badge to the highest bidder
[17:00] <cyberanger> Ubik: see your PM?
[17:01] <cyberanger> and your kidding
[17:01] <cyberanger> who won, what bid
[20:16] <wrst> morning chris4585 :)
[20:16] <chris4585> hey wrst
[21:07] <wrst> chris4585: doing ok?
[21:12] <chris4585> yep


[03:43] <nhaines> Hmm, time to figure out my ownCloud to Nextcloud migration.
[03:44] <nhaines> By which I basically just mean "do the thing."
[05:10] <nhaines> Okay, shutting down the server to backup and start upgrade/migration, etc.
[05:10] <nhaines> _o/
[08:38] <nhaines> Well the hardest part about that was figuring how to set up pretty URLs again.  I'm more than annoyed that it was trivial but not documented at all.  Newer ownCloud docs had it.


[06:53] <ikt> morning all
[06:54] <ikt> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS60901/IDS60901.94675.shtml
[06:54] <ikt> 04/05:00pm34.3
[06:54] <ikt> I should probably be outside
[06:54] <ikt> getting sunburnt
[07:00] <head_victim> I just washed the car so no doubt we'll get a storm
[07:05] <Noskcaj> Hey, at least you guys arn't in Armidale we're getting surrounded by fire
[07:09] <ikt> :/
[07:09] <ikt> not good
[07:34] <ikt> Noskcaj, do you have any news articles? I can't find anything on it
[07:51] <Noskcaj> itk: not to much new but around 65000 hectares 100km east of us
[07:51] <Noskcaj> *news
[08:29] <ikt> damn