[00:03] <bozonius> that did it; thanks again.
[00:04] <bozonius> I found a lot of old generic and pae kernels so I got rid of all but the latest 3 of each version (3.2.0 and 3.5.0) -- using dpkg of course, not brute force
[00:04] <ipoisonxl> Hello
[00:05] <sydney> ipoisonxl: Hi!!
[00:05] <ipoisonxl> I have trouble with my internet connection. I recently changed to Ubuntu. My internet speed was about 20mbps download and 15mbps upload, now it's dropped down to 1.5 and 0.1...
[00:06] <ipoisonxl> The fast internet was with Windows
[00:07] <Stovetop> hello
[00:08] <Stovetop> does anyone happen to know why it's not possible to automount an ecrypt directory on publickey ssh authentication?
[00:08] <Stovetop> even when sshd is using PAM
[00:09] <Stovetop> it seems like PAM should kick in to gear and automount the directory via the pam_ecryptfs plugin
[00:14] <TJ-> Stovetop: Because, by default, the ~/.ssh/ directory is encrypted. I reconfigure things to move it out to /etc/ssh/$USER/
[00:16] <Stovetop> TJ-: i've done that - the ssh part is working fine and separated from the encryted dir - i just can't get it to autmount when i login via ssh
[00:17] <mdev> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main libicu44 i386 4.4.2-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:17] <mdev> can't install packages get that error when I try and apt-get
[00:17] <mdev> how I fix?
[00:18] <unicornjedi> !ping
[00:18] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone. My network manager settings dont allow internet when connected to vpn. I tried the method here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660520&page=3   ( last post )   but that does not help. Can someone guide me through the steps to take to solve this ?  I am not sure what else to change in the network manager for this
[00:18] <mdev> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[00:18] <mdev> when I try and apt-get update
[00:19] <mdev> my /etc/apt/sources.list contains nothing but oneiric stuff
[00:20] <TJ-> Stovetop: You've confirmed that the "/etc/pam.d/sshd" is working as expected. "/var/log/auth.log" should show what is being processed
[00:20] <Vivekananda> What I meant was that on connecting to a vpn network my local internet access through my router gets disabled
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: one successful xubuntu install :)
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: (for Deborah)
[00:21] <Freeder> Hi, I have a few small public services running (webpages, ftp, etc) and would like to gain a better idea of what users are doing on my network when connected (bandwidth used, how many are currently connected, new connections, etc) via something similar to mrtg... what is a good real-time stat generator that might be able to do that?
[00:21] <Stovetop> TJ-: yeah, i've checked all that and it seems to be working properly.  the problem is that a lot of the articles online seem to have contradictory statements on whether auto mount for ssh should even work at all
[00:21] <econdudeawesome> How do I get my new USB wifi dongle working? I plugged it in and it appears to detect the dongle, but I'm unable to connect to my wifi
[00:22] <TJ-> Stovetop: I use it routinely and have for a long time; never had an issue
[00:22] <mdev> apparently it was removed from the main repositories?
[00:22] <Stovetop> TJ-: i found one ubuntu forum article from an ecrypt contributor who said it should NOT be possible
[00:22] <mdev> what the actual heck...
[00:22] <mdev> so ubuntu team just broke my VPS entirely I can't update I can't upgrade
[00:23] <TJ-> Stovetop: The only time I've seen it not mount the ecryptfs is when the .ssh directory can't be reached
[00:23] <ee99ee> What's the best way to set the hostname of an ubuntu box when provisioning on aws with ec2-run-instances? Set it with a user-data script?
[00:23] <mdev> so wreckless....
[00:23] <Stovetop> TJ-: so you have key-based ssh auth that automatically mounts the encrypted homedir when you login - no password promts?
[00:23] <ee99ee> maybe someting like: echo "my.new.host" > /etc/hostname; hostname "my.new.host" ?
[00:24] <TJ-> Stovetop: correct, I've had that as standard practice for several years
[00:24] <TJ-> Stovetop: I'm ssh-ing into a host now, to check it
[00:24] <mdev> guess ubuntu can't be trusted
[00:25] <mdev> too busy trying to integrate amazon ads
[00:25] <mdev> breaking peoples stuff
[00:25] <Stovetop> TJ-: argh - i wonder what's going wrong - pam doesn't seem to want to mount it automatically - i had to set up a .profile that runs the ecrypt mount command
[00:26] <Viking667> what's the  name of the volume application?
[00:26] <Viking667> the one that is used for audio volume?
[00:26] <Stovetop> TJ-: so that when i login with ssh it runs that prompt for the ecrypt password and then will do it's thing
[00:26] <TJ-> mdev: Oneiric was EOL in May 2013
[00:27] <TJ-> Stovetop: got to wait a few minutes, I had everything powered down :)
[00:31] <Stovetop> TJ-: when you created the encrypted directory, did you choose your own password or let the program set it?
[00:32] <z1haze> hello! could someone answer a few questions for me, and possibly help me out? Im a server owner, but I have little experience doing so; I had help setting up the server as it is, and everythin works great, except for the fact theres no actual ftp server installed on it. The server is setup with password authentication disabled and uses ssh keys, but now I am going to be required to install an ftp server on it, due to a control panel f
[00:32] <z1haze> or a gameserver that includes ftp.. what would be the easiest way to do this?
[00:32] <TJ-> The passprase for the ecryptfs is wrapped using the user account password
[00:33] <wheatthin> z1haze, ubunt-server would be a better place for that question
[00:33] <Stovetop> TJ-: so do i maybe have a redundant password or something?
[00:33] <wheatthin> ubuntu-server
[00:33] <z1haze> i thought so  i went there first, didnt get anything
[00:34] <wheatthin> yeah.. You can use vsftpd, and configure it in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[00:35] <Stovetop> TJ-: i've just created a new user, so should ecrypt just inherit the password for the new account, or do i need to set a new password?
[00:36] <mjayk> does anyone know why a usb 3 stick would stop working in a usb port when a usb 2 stick works in it ?
[00:36] <mjayk> but the usb 3 stick works in the usb 2 port ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[00:37] <TJ-> Stovetop: It's so long since I messed with it... I think you need to do "adduser --encrypt-home ..."
[00:38] <TJ-> mjayk: Stops working entirely, can't be seen by the kernel, or only uses the USB2 protocol?
[00:38] <Vivekananda> hope someone can look at the network issue I have . Been trying different things esp the one here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660520&page=3   ( last post)
[00:39] <mjayk> TJ-: doesnt show at all under lsblk or anywhere as far as I can see
[00:40] <vernacchia> is anyone present familiar with schroot?
[00:40] <Vivekananda> hope I did not loose internet yet
[00:40] <TJ-> mjayk: check in "/var/log/kern.log"... best to do "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" as the device is connected, to see what the kernel reports
[00:41] <histo> daftykins: nice
[00:41] <TJ-> Vivekananda: what is your issue? the post you refer to reports the issue being solved
[00:41] <mjayk> would dmesg do the same TJ- ?  just for my own learning :)
[00:41] <vernacchia> I'm getting an error when I attempt to enter a schroot environment: W: Shell 'usr/sbin/nologin' not available: usr/sbin/nologin: Failed to stat file: No such file or directory W: Falling back to shell '/bin/sh'
[00:42] <vernacchia> it's like it isn't looking for the initial environment in the right place but I'm not sure where it would be defined
[00:42] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I tried the suggestion there but does not work for me.  My issue is that I have a working vpn connection but when I connect to the vpn I loose my internet connection.
[00:43] <TJ-> mjayk: not unless it is a very recent version, that supports "--follow"
[00:43] <TJ-> Vivekananda: what kind of VPN?
[00:44] <Vivekananda> TJ-: openvpn ubuntu 12.04
[00:44] <Vivekananda> using the network manager plugin for it
[00:45] <mjayk> OK I can see it in dmesg
[00:46] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, have you only ever configured the VPN using the GUI (in other words, have you previously done a manual configuration by editing files in "/etc/openvpn/") ?
[00:47] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275403 does that help at all
[00:47] <TJ-> mjayk: That looks correc to me... what else are you expecting?
[00:48] <mjayk> im expecting to see it in the file manager or under /media/ or somewhere
[00:48] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I made no manual changes but I did import the certificates into the connection when creating a new openvpn connection in the network manager. Besides doing that I have made no changes
[00:48] <mjayk> like it does when i plug the usb 2 stick in TJ-
[00:48] <TJ-> mjayk: Is the usb_storage kernel module loaded ("lsmod | grep usb_storage") ?
[00:49] <mjayk> TJ-:  Nothing comes up when I do that
[00:49] <Vivekananda> TJ-: but the vpn connection works fine when I try to log into it
[00:49] <TJ-> mjayk: really!? OK, keep an eye on that dmeg/kern.log and do "sudo modprobe usb_storage"
[00:51] <daftykins> Vivekananda: did you miss my reply earlier?
[00:51] <TJ-> Vivekananda: So I'm a bit confused as to how it is failing. If by that you mean the VPN gets the default route, then you need to enable the option "use this connection only for computers on this network" or however it is worded, it's a checkbox in one of te tabs
[00:52] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275418
[00:52] <Vivekananda> daftykins: hi . no I saw it but did not follow what I needed to change so I tried to look for something similar and apparantely got to that site that told me to just click on 'use this connection for routes on this network only' and I did that. Besides that I am not sure what to change
[00:53] <vernacchia> aha, host environment config is missing the correct path and preserving the broken environment when entering schroot causes it to bomb
[00:53] <Stovetop> TJ-: me again. :-) once i've created the user with the --encrypt-home option, you reckon i need to run ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring?
[00:55] <daftykins> Vivekananda: so as long as you can use IPs for RDP over the VPN, you'd want to disable getting any DNS servers from the connection too
[00:55] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I have checked that box and if I am understanding you correctly based on the limited knowledge I have, I guess vpn is getting the default route and so the net is not working but I have checked that box and net is still unreacheable after vpn connection.  would you like me to post the results of route -n  for before and after the connection ?   or perhpas the results of :  cat  /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:56] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I dont follow that completely. do you mean if I want to use rdp over vpn I cannot have local internet  ?
[00:56] <TJ-> Stovetop: I'm having trouble here with a RAID failure so I can't look right now, but I seem to recall because the same user password is used on the local and remote system, I have something configured with the agent... I'll try to find it once I have some free time and I'll drop you a Memo here on freenode in case you've not solved it
[00:57] <daftykins> Vivekananda: what you've said to TJ- would indeed be handy, although i have to go to sleep now.
[00:57] <mjayk> im quite confused
[00:58] <Stovetop> TJ-: cool, thanks dude - i'm gettin nowhere on this at the moment - nothing seems to work - good luck with the RAID fixing!
[00:58] <daftykins> Vivekananda: you want to make sure that your default gateway is not overridden, then you want to make sure your DNS IPs remain ones that function, i.e. your ISPs or perhaps googles
[00:58] <Vivekananda> okay willl wait for his answer
[00:59] <Vivekananda> daftykins: okay but again I dont know how to locate those pieces of info and ensure they are remaining the same or if I have to manually write some file
[01:00] <TJ-> Vivekananda: In the openvpn configuration GUI, ensure you select (on the IPv4 tab) "Method: Automatic (only addresses)" to avoid the VPN changing the default route or the DNS servers
[01:00] <daftykins> Vivekananda: "route -n" or "ip route" for gw, as you stated... then if resolvconf is removed, /etc/resolv.conf can contain hardcoded DNS IPs... depends how you're handling DNS
[01:00] <Vivekananda> I have that chosen and not the first one
[01:00] <Vivekananda> gw ?
[01:00] <mjayk> TJ-: im not nagging I appriciate the help but did you get my last pate bin :)
[01:00] <daftykins> guess.
[01:01] <daftykins> ah there you go, TJ- has a better way for dropping DNS from the connection
[01:02] <TJ-> mjayk: No, I missed it. That log was captured after you'd modprobed usb_storage?
[01:02] <mjayk> TJ-:  Yea i was
[01:02] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275418
[01:06] <TJ-> mjayk: which ubuntu release, which kernel version ("cat /etc/issue && uname -r") ?
[01:07] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  http://imgur.com/COmbevV
[01:07] <mjayk> TJ-:  14.04 LTS 3.8.11
[01:08] <TJ-> mjayk: Can you pastebin the entire /var/log/dmesg ?
[01:11] <mjayk> TJ-: http://pastie.org/9275441
[01:11] <mjayk> should help
[01:12] <TJ-> mjayk: no good. I need to see the *entire* dmesg to see how the controller and ports have configured, and if the USB2 and USB3 have initialised in the correct order
[01:16] <Vivekananda> TJ-: in the ipv4 settings for the vpn  do I need to specify a route manually in the 'routes'  button pop-up ? I dont have anything there and it is blank
[01:17] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Hmmm, possibly. It's difficult because the VPN server can be configured to hand out additional routes, name-servers, and so forth so you never quite know on the client side what you may need to ignore
[01:18] <Vivekananda> ok. but on checking the checkbox you indicated above, shouldnt that not take care of this issue ?
[01:18] <Vivekananda> Please let me know what other outpus you would need to help me a little with troubleshoot
[01:19] <TJ-> The route is orthogonal to the DNS resolvers, but the way the connection can be configured on the client I'm not sure the GUI allows you to accept routes but not nameservers, for example
[01:20] <Vivekananda> TJ-: when you say client do you mean my computer or the vpn server I am connecting through using the vpn connection ?
[01:22] <TJ-> Vivekananda: the client is the one that calls the server :)
[01:23] <Vivekananda> also are you sure I cannot do anything about this ?  so that makes me and my computer the client
[01:24] <TJ-> do anything about what? From what you've said you've already set the option to prevent the default route being changed... so that should ensure you still have direct Internet connectivity via your ISP, rather than re-routing all traffic through the VPN
[01:27] <Freeder> Hi, I have a few small public services running (webpages, ftp, etc) and would like to gain a better idea of what users are doing on my network when connected (bandwidth used, how many are currently connected, new connections, etc) via something similar to mrtg... what is a good real-time stat generator that might be able to do that?
[01:27] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I have that checkbox checked and things changed as you said above but even now when I connect to the remote  server via vpn connection I am loosing internet.
[01:27] <TJ-> Vivekananda: define "losing"... I suspect you mean you lose DNS name resolving only
[01:28] <TJ-> Vivekananda: pastebin the results of these commands: "ip route ls && pin -nc 4 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:28] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Typo! "ip route ls && ping -nc 4 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:28] <Vivekananda> TJ-: after I see " vpn connection successful " I then open firefox on my local computer ( not a remote computer accessible through the vpn) and try to go to google.com and cannot
[01:29] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  I am assuming you want me to try that after connecting to the vpn
[01:29] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Yes please
[01:29] <Vivekananda> okay gimme a min. Just that when I connect I will loose this chat connection too
[01:31] <TJ-> Vivekananda: You shouldn't loose this as an established connection, if the default route isn't being changed
[01:31] <Sachiru> I'd like to track who's browsing por... tals for accounting experts on our network (and yes I know this is not a 100% foolproof system, what I'm asking for is basic logging/monitoring for beancounters, not something to track a person who is dedicated to having himself not tracked.
[01:31] <Vivekananda> TJ-: http://pastie.org/9275472
[01:32] <Vivekananda> this is after vpn was established.
[01:33] <TJ-> Vivekananda: That explains it! You've got duplicate sub-nets for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 on both sides of the VPN!
[01:34] <TJ-> Vivekananda: So, when the VPN is established a route for <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is added via the tun0 interface, which interferes with your local route via eth0
[01:34] <histo> Sachiru: there are many ways to do that.  What type of network is it?
[01:34] <TJ-> Vivekananda: one side or the other needs to move to a different sub-net
[01:35] <Vivekananda> ooo okay
[01:35] <Rcrash> I have ubuntu box1 connected to windows box1 over ethernet, no switch, both are configured on 192.168.5.x/24. The Windows box can ping the Ubuntu box, but the ubuntu box cannot ping the windows box. When I have the ubuntu box hooked up to the normal network, it receives a DHCP address, but then stops talking to everything afterwards. After the DHCP lease is established, I can view all network
[01:35] <Rcrash> traffic on the box, but still cannot talk. This is on a fresh install of Ubuntu server, but also happens with Ubuntu desktop. When using the same hardware under Windows, everything works properly
[01:35] <Rcrash> The same problem appears when I use the onboard ethernet ports or the pcie NIC
[01:35] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I dont have control on the other side but can move mine the only thing is I dont want to do it so that if new computers connect to my network they cannot get dhcp ips
[01:36] <Vivekananda> three people use my network and I dont wish to cause them pain
[01:36] <TJ-> Vivekananda: You should just be able to reconfigure your local sub-net on the router, move it to say <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[01:36] <Rcrash> Vivekananda change your whole internal network. Unless the other people are using static IPs, they will be fine.
[01:36] <TJ-> Vivekananda: If the router is issuing IP addresses via DHCP then nothing will break
[01:36] <Vivekananda> how do I move my own to a different subnet. Also when you say different subnet do you mean just the  numbers from 1 - 24 to be different or do I have to change the 192.x.x.x ie all of them
[01:37] <histo> Rcrash: are you trying to ping by hostname
[01:37] <Sachiru> Basically the DNS+DHCP server resides on a different machine from the gateway.
[01:37] <Rcrash> Vivekananda on your router, change the internal lan to <IP_ADDRESS> as TJ- suggested, that should also update the DHCP server settings.
[01:37] <ubuntuuser> hello
[01:37] <Rcrash> histo no
[01:37] <TJ-> Vivekananda: When we write <IP_ADDRESS>/24 we mean the first 24 bits of a 32 bit address are static, so the final 8 bits can change. That means the valid sub-net addresses are <IP_ADDRESS> through <IP_ADDRESS>.
[01:37] <Sachiru> I don't need full URL logging, just logs of how many times a user hits facebook, etc.
[01:38] <Sachiru> It's a small office network, around 20 workstations, simple TP-Link router.
[01:38] <ubuntuuser> i have a question, maybe someone can help me: i run an irc client on a shell in another timezone. can i offset the time on the shell? or does that have to be done in the client (irssi)
[01:38] <Vivekananda> TJ-: also just trying to understand the output I gave you.  ie each of the lines in there
[01:38] <Rcrash> Sachiru you will need to either setup dns logging to see who's hitting your DNS server, or you will need a router which supports url logging.
[01:38] <Sachiru> I plan on using a machine here as DHCP+DNS, then turn off DNS on the router. This would have the added benefit of me being able to locally resolve a domain.
[01:38] <histo> Sachiru: http://www.debianadmin.com/network-traffic-analyzer-for-your-ubuntu-system.html
[01:39] <Sachiru> DNS logging is what I plan.
[01:39] <Sachiru> Just asking if there are any good DNS log analyzers out there.
[01:39] <Sachiru> Instead of me having to manually grep through stuff.
[01:39] <Rcrash> Sachiru http://www.gypthecat.com/how-to-log-bind-queries-on-ubuntu-12-10
[01:39] <histo> Rcrash: can you pastebin ip route
[01:39] <Rcrash> histo there are no routes
[01:40] <Rcrash> there is no traffic leaving the subnet
[01:40] <Rcrash> it is all local traffic
[01:40] <TJ-> Rcrash: my first thought was cabling, but if you're seeing a full DHCP conversation (and not just the client using the last lease it obtained), then I'd want to know the kernel version and the exact PCI IDs of the NICs
[01:41] <Sachiru> Basically something similar to this: http://demo.statdns.nedze.com/
[01:41] <Vivekananda> TJ-: the lines having 'eth0'  are : 1.    default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0  proto static      and    2.  <IP_ADDRESS> via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0  proto static   and   3. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>  metric 1   .  The lines for  'tun0' ie the remote interface are  :     1.  <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev tun0  proto static     .   did you mean that line 3  in eth0  interferes with line 1 in the tun0 ?
[01:42] <TJ-> Vivekananda: line 7 is the one causing your grief
[01:43] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "<IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev tun0  proto static " ... tun0 is the interface created by openvpn
[01:43] <Nautilus> from the desktop of a LiveCD boot, how do I open a terminal window? Thought it was ctrl-T
[01:43] <TJ-> Nautilus: Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:44] <Rcrash> TJ- I've changed cables, NICs, everything but the mobo. The full conversation happens, is recognized by the DHCP server, and logged. Then after that, active network traffic can be viewed using any one of a few packet sniffers. The kernel version is whatever's installed with the latest ISOs from ubuntu.com. PCI IDs 14e4:1639
[01:45] <Rcrash> Sachiru see the link I pasted. You need to find what IP your beancounter is using, then just grep through the log, there's not going to be anything easier unless your router supports traffic logging
[01:45] <lacrymology> a friend's got a legacy nvidia and his machine started freezing at grub after release upgrade. He thinks it's video drivers, has checked the rest of the hardware
[01:46] <TJ-> Rcrash: So, Ubuntu 14.04. What do you have in "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[01:47] <Rcrash> TJ- right now I've got one port for the dual nic configured manually, which is what Windows is able to ping.
[01:48] <Rcrash> TJ- yeah, 14.04
[01:48] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Maybe, try and boot with the 'nomodset' boot parameter from grub.
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: looking at the bnx2 driver, it has an option "disable_msi" ... Sometimes systems have issues with MSI (checking dmesg may reveal something), so you could try loading the driver with that enabled ("disable_msi=1")
[01:49] <Rcrash> nothing in dmseg with any value
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: If you could pastebin the entire dmesg that'd be helpful to get a feel for it
[01:49] <Rcrash> I'm actually starting to lean toward some funky failure in the hardware
[01:49] <Rcrash> no network, can't :(
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: I've seen this with MSIs a few times
[01:50] <TJ-> Can you transfer it via USB flash?
[01:50] <Rcrash> that's thinkin
[01:50] <Rcrash> :P
[01:50] <TJ-> Rcrash: try rmmod-ing the driver first
[01:50] <TJ-> if that works you're sorted
[01:50] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: how can he do that, when the computer is frozen?
[01:50] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: has to change something from a livecd, right?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: If when you reboot, you can not get to the grub boot menu, most likely not a 'buntu problem . (not to say there is not a corrupted code in t Master Boot Record)
[01:55] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: it's not the hard drive, he does get to grub, but it freezes. LiveCD boots fine
[01:55] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Hey, Is 'buntu the only operating system installed on the machine ? -> cold boot when bios screnn clears depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu.
[01:56] <ee99ee> I have two node apps running on each of my web servers that I need to direct requests to based on simple URL patterns
[01:56] <Freeder> Hmm. What would cause squid to not start, and not write anything to the log files?
[01:56] <ee99ee> the node servers are running on different ports, and they are both behind an elastic load balancer on amazon
[01:56] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: OK, can get to grub, then try the boot parameter 'nomodeset' to get to the desk top.
[01:56] <Freeder> Or, where could I check to see whats going on
[01:56] <ee99ee> should I use ha proxy or nginx to do the proxy?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Do yall know how to implement adding a boot parameter ?
[01:58] <wicka> hello
[01:58] <wicka> i have an ubuntu server that i SSH into from my windows machine. i understand i cannot run "startx" through SSH. how, then, am i supposed to start x?
[01:59] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: not really. but there's a lot of internet around. I'm guessing something in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[02:01] <wicka> is anyone actually around?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Reading is good, but ,, boot to the grub menu, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen; arrow down and across to the terms "quiet splash" and add the term "nomodeset"; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. what results ?
[02:02] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: he says even the caps lock and num lock leds don't respond when he gets to grub menu
[02:03] <lacrymology> even initramfs isn't running at that point, is it?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: And there is no peoblems with the liveDVD ?? //MAybe bios is not handing off the keyboard to grub // might try changing the keyboard settings in bios and see what results.
[02:05] <Bashing-om> problems*
[02:09] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  I got that but which line is it interfering with ?
[02:09] <Vivekananda> ie which is the correct eth0 line ? there are 3 so I am not sure which one means what
[02:11] <TJ-> Vivekananda: The other line with the subnet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ... dev eth0 ...
[02:12] <Vivekananda> TJ-: ie the next line ( line 8 ) isnt it ?
[02:14] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: how would that make it not work on MBR grub but yes on CD?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Have yall got a liveDVD ? -> boot to the liveDVD's boot option screen and choose "boot from first hard drive ". What results ?
[02:15] <muddle_through> if you have it installed on hard disk , why run liveDVD?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Keyboard drivers are differnet between what bios uses, grub uses and the liveDVD uses.
[02:15] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: telling him to try that
[02:16] <ROCK23> hello!!
[02:16] <ROCK23> greeting from Singapore
[02:16] <muddle_through> i usually run ubuntu live first then switch to install so i can input my wifi login during install from dvd
[02:16] <Freeder> Any ideas why squid would not start, and not log *anything* to cache.log ?
[02:17] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: liveCD -> boot from HDD: same result as before
[02:17] <Bashing-om> ROCK23: Hey ! .. Singapore, I once spent a week there one night.
[02:17] <lacrymology> I'm coming to singapore next monday
[02:17] <hanasaki> I think the audio is going through the spdif not the hdmi connector that the video is using to get the the monitory (has speakers)   how can I get the audio to go through the hdmi?
[02:18] <ROCK23> :-)
[02:18] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Well, no more than we have to work with, info wise, will not hurt to (re-)install grub from the liveDVD and see what happens. Yall game for that ?
[02:18] <muddle_through> all depends on available drivers for your card, i would think
[02:18] <muddle_through> soundcard, i mean
[02:18] <lacrymology> yeah sure
[02:19] <muddle_through> you could probably play around with the mixer interface, and see what happens
[02:19] <hanasaki> how do you play a sound w/ the mixer interface?
[02:19] <ROCK23> I think you just slide the level bar and a sound will be played
[02:20] <muddle_through> let me see on this release. mine just work, i have to turn it off, actively, to mute
[02:20] <ROCK23> btw,not all monitor is able ot support HDMI audio though
[02:20] <ROCK23> you got to check
[02:21] <hanasaki> I get no sound from aplay  and gnome and kde
[02:22] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: The mens to implement depend on where the operating system is installed to. Do you know the hard drive and partition that 'buntu is installed onto ? else we will do the pastebin thing and I will find the information.
[02:22] <ROCK23> why don't you plug it into the normal sound output to verify that the sound card is working fine?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> \means*
[02:22] <ROCK23> deal with the HDMI later
[02:23] <hanasaki> sound works fine on the RCA plug out.   there is a SPDIF however I have no cable for that
[02:23] <hanasaki> nor input
[02:23] <muddle_through> hanasaki: when you access system settings:sound, it makes a little pop when you adjust the master volume
[02:23] <muddle_through> on mine "built in audio" is selected
[02:24] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: I think it's the only system installed
[02:25] <muddle_through> there are some sound cards not easily supported, though
[02:25] <ROCK23> btw, is this the official irc channel for ubuntu>
[02:25] <ROCK23> ?
[02:25] <muddle_through> look on the web forum maybe
[02:25] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  sorry I don't understand what you are suggesting I do
[02:25] <muddle_through> rock, i think so?
[02:26] <ROCK23> thanks :)
[02:26] <muddle_through> hanasaki: go to the the gear in the right hand corner
[02:26] <muddle_through> click it
[02:26] <muddle_through> select system settings
[02:27] <hanasaki> ok
[02:27] <muddle_through> says all and has various system settings you can adjust
[02:27] <muddle_through> select the icon that says "sound"
[02:28] <Corvette> Is there a way to enable additional printer drivers in ubuntu 14.04? My epson XP 400 isn't installing
[02:28] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  I have been through all that is found oon the web
[02:28] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  on.. next?
[02:28] <muddle_through> okay sounds like you don't need help
[02:28] <muddle_through> make sure speakers is selected
[02:29] <muddle_through> move around the slider at top, pop sound comes from speakers
[02:29] <muddle_through>  = sound works
[02:29] <hanasaki> its all set to play through hdmi... but no sound... when I play a sound.. the meter does show sounds playing
[02:30] <muddle_through> i don't know about all that. you may have to settle for standard stereo output
[02:30] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: do you know if there might be some kind of logs left anywhere for that?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Let us know before acting ! -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- and relay back the resulting URL.
[02:30] <lacrymology> *from* that
[02:31] <muddle_through> mine only shows two possible output methods, speakers and spdif
[02:32] <muddle_through> i've never tried to use hdmi to output to my receiver
[02:32] <TJ-> Rcrash: did that MSI workaround fix your issue?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: IF one wants to look at logs, I bet we can from the liveDVD and mount the partition that contains 'root'.
[02:33] <hanasaki> :(
[02:33] <muddle_through> sorry d00d
[02:33] <yimao> :)
[02:33] <hanasaki> is pulse audio gnome or kde?
[02:33] <muddle_through> i'm just not sure without trying it here
[02:33] <ROCK23> brb
[02:33] <muddle_through> gnome for sure
[02:34] <muddle_through> i never use kde, though, so don't know about it there
[02:35] <muddle_through> let me see the "mode" pulldown here shows Analog Stereo Output and Surround 4.0
[02:36] <muddle_through> i should try my hdmi too, but it's connected to the roku > television
[02:36] <muddle_through> the cable i mean
[02:37] <muddle_through> oops
[02:37] <oniMaker> ssh disconnected in the middle of an upgrade. I can reconnect fine... but how can I resume seeing the output from the install?
[02:37] <muddle_through> need another cable
[02:37] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: the question is whether there will *be* any logs if the machine freezes at grub
[02:37] <oniMaker> I can see the process still running with htop
[02:38] <oniMaker> is it possible to pick up where I left off?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: If the system is not up, then there is no means to log .. right ?
[02:39] <hanasaki> running a program on a remote computer and want it to display on my computer.... I set xhost + and exported DISPLAY on the remote computer however still get xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: me:0.0
[02:40] <exported> hanasaki: are you trying to forward X over ssh?
[02:40] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Dis you see my xx:30 entry ?
[02:40] <muddle_through> hanasaki, try the terminal app named "screen" ?
[02:40] <hanasaki> exported:  nope.. no ssh forward... trusted network .. so just ssh to the box then run xterm after setting the DISPLAY
[02:41] <exported> hanasaki: wouldn't that still be forwarding X over an ssh connection?
[02:41] <hanasaki> nope.
[02:42] <hanasaki> exported it would be plain X to any host
[02:42] <muddle_through> i'm not sure how that works, personally. all ssh i've run has been term-based
[02:42] <muddle_through> good luck, though.
[02:43] <histo> hanasaki: you have to allow the display of the remote X app on your machine
[02:43] <muddle_through> i think deeply until it's over my head :)
[02:44] <oniMaker> oh wait... the process hung around for a bit but now it's gone... could an upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 really only take a few minutes? It said it might take hours...
[02:44] <oniMaker> server connection had 10 MB/s though
[02:44] <oniMaker> lsb_release -a seems to think it's 14.04 and do-release-upgrade thinks its at the current version
[02:44] <oniMaker> how can I tell if it finished or quit when ssh was disconnected?
[02:44] <histo> hanasaki: here's a guide for a different distro but should be the same
[02:45] <histo> hanasaki: again this is all easier using ssh
[02:45] <histo> and encrypted
[02:45] <muddle_through> go back and check for the process number using ps?
[02:46] <hanasaki> ok got the ssh thanks
[02:50] <hanasaki> how do I get the sound to go through hdmi instead of  < S/PDIF >
[02:50] <AndChat150689> Hi guys
[02:50] <ROCK23> howdy
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:51] <AndChat150689> Is it possible to use Ubuntu on mobile?
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !touch | AndChat150689
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> AndChat150689: 2 oem phones comming later this year with ubuntu-touch
[02:52] <histo> hanasaki: choose the audio output in sound preferences
[02:53] <oniMaker> Using apache2 2.4.7 and getting AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded. but I have an mpm_prefork.load & conf in my mods-enabled directory
[02:53] <hanasaki> histo:  I am starting out with a remote ssh and just want to play from the bash line
[02:53] <muddle_through> mine doesn't show it, but my laptop does have an hdmi jack
[02:53] <Lrrr1> uh oh!!!
[02:53] <Lrrr1> now my room is too cold
[02:53] <Lrrr1> this sucks
[02:54] <muddle_through> bundle up
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> i installed yumi and gambas3 but cant get it to run, it asks for root pass and says its wrong pass..
[02:54] <hanasaki> histo:  issue is in kde and gnome.. looks like only spdif not hdmi
[02:54] <hanasaki> I need to know how to set the default out
[02:54] <histo> hanasaki: play sound on which machine?
[02:54] <muddle_through> lotus try setting a password while sudo su
[02:54] <muddle_through> using passwd
[02:55] <histo> hanasaki: remote or local?
[02:55] <muddle_through> that's how i always did it
[02:55] <histo> lotuspsychje: still?
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> histo: i did dpkg -L yumi and showed me all dirs and names, ive tryed them all
[02:55] <histo> lotuspsychje: cat /usr/share/applications/yumi.desktop  or whatever see which application its launching
[02:55] <muddle_through> but just using sudo su is the same password as your login
[02:55] <hanasaki> histo:  remote machine from bash through hdmi
[02:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: then gksu nameofthatapp
[02:56] <muddle_through> then you're su till you exit
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> histo: tryed them all, nothing runs
[02:56] <histo> muddle_through: sudo -i would be more appropriate
[02:56] <muddle_through> okay then
[02:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: pastebin your yumi.desktop please
[02:56] <muddle_through> i'm all about the work arounds
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7621313/
[02:58] <histo> lotuspsychje: gksu YUMI.gambas
[02:58] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: yes, but he had problems, the livecD didn't load his wifi card, which.. it had done before, I don't know. He's gone to bed now. He'll be back here himself tomorrow
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> histo: YUMI.gambas starts, but still asks the root pass field, and says its wrong pass
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> histo: lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ gksudo YUMI.gambas
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> UID=0(root) GID=0(root) groepen=0(root)
[02:59] <muddle_through> just do sudo su then you're root temporarily
[03:00] <histo> lotuspsychje: where is it asking for root password?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> histo: after starting the yumi GUI, there is a field
[03:00] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: OK, We can pick this up then .. To do anything we must have internet connectivity ( just in case (re-)installing grub is a failure ).
[03:00] <muddle_through> sudo su gets you the #
[03:00] <XeblackWater> hello ubuntu lovers
[03:00] <muddle_through> yo
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> muddle_through: its the same with sudo su, GUI starts and still asks pass
[03:01] <histo> lotuspsychje: A gui popup field?  or can you paste a picture print screen button should grab an image
[03:01] <histo> !paste | lotuspsychje
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> histo: sure
[03:01] <histo> lotuspsychje: i've never seen that.
[03:01] <muddle_through> lotus it's just the user password
[03:01] <muddle_through> whatever you logged in with
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> muddle_through: ive tryed other pass, root pass doesnt work
[03:02] <muddle_through> yeah i don't know your password, but maybe you're on a guest login???
[03:02] <muddle_through> it works here. i use it all the time.
[03:03] <histo> lotuspsychje: Okay I just downloaded yumi it's broken
[03:04] <muddle_through> not being able to get # sounds like PEBCAC
[03:04] <histo> lotuspsychje: you could also try this one http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:04] <muddle_through> err pebcak
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> histo: http://oi60.tinypic.com/1pts1s.jpg
[03:05] <XeblackWater> http://i.4cdn.org/hc/1402363117089.gif for lisa_21
[03:06] <histo> !ops | xeblackwat
[03:07] <histo> lotuspsychje: It's not working here also. I don't know what they've broken with the app you can try the other one I posted
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> histo: ok ill try mate
[03:12] <histo> lotuspsychje: http://alternativeto.net/software/multibootisos/?platform=linux
[03:12] <histo> lotuspsychje: there are a bunch of alternatives you'll ahve to look for ones that allow you to do multiple distros
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> histo: ive downloaded that multibootusb tool recently, but dont know where to add more then 1 iso
[03:13] <histo> lotuspsychje: they show you on this page how to use it http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> histo: cant get it to run in terminal
[03:15] <histo> lotuspsychje: Follow the directions on the page outside of that I have no idea.
[03:16] <xangua> lotuspsychje: http://multibootusb.org/ or http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> histo: installing that .sh script
[03:23] <BlackAngelPR> Hi all
[03:23] <xangua> !hi
[03:23] <muddle_through> hi black angel
[03:23] <BlackAngelPR> hi there no one had a question yet XD ?
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> latetly had been quiet :P
[03:24] <muddle_through> zzz
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> haha
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> yup
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> what are you guys up to then?
[03:25] <BlackAngelPR> did you guys delete ubuntu one already from your 14.04 ?
[03:25] <muddle_through> yeah
[03:25] <BlackAngelPR> nice  i did as well now that noticae bar will not bother me any more LOL
[03:26] <muddle_through> i installed synaptic back too
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> oh
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> old school :)
[03:26] <muddle_through> it's just easier
[03:26] <muddle_through> yeah i guess
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> meh i dont like it at all XD
[03:26] <muddle_through> i don't like nags for apps you have to buy
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> :)
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> canonical have to do more work on the store  as well i saw some pretty audio players in other distros
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> XD
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua seems like that multisystem works, if you guys find an easy .deb for that in the future would be handy for other users maybe
[03:28] <BlackAngelPR> Any one had done a muliseat witn ubuntu 14.04 yet?
[03:28] <muddle_through> muliseat?
[03:28] <BlackAngelPR> yes
[03:29] <muddle_through> what is it?
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> one computer many terminals
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> meh little long to explain do a quick google
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> there are different ways to do it
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> by lan or usb direct to your computer
[03:29] <muddle_through> oh. i'm too lazy for that stuff. sounds like fun, though. :)
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> !info multiseat
[03:30] <BlackAngelPR> yeah i would love to try that but the information its little confusing :p
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> since many hardware available :(
[03:31] <muddle_through> i'll google
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> you will find a company that does that but they have a old old ubuntu flavor with it
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> and need to pay XD
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: what is your end goal exactly?
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> i hope one day ubuntu make it more easy so fathers can make it at home if they have many kids
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> i want to make multi seat with ubuntu so all can share the same computer
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> :p
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> at home
[03:32] <muddle_through> it's a virtual machine setup?
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> :P
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> no
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> sahre your linux comp
[03:32] <unopaste> BlackAngelPR you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:32] <muddle_through> oops
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: 1 computer, multiple users on it same time?
[03:33] <muddle_through> think i'll read up later
[03:33] <BlackAngelPR> fuck unopaste!
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> !language | BlackAngelPR
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua multisystem looking neat! adding iso's in the list tnx again
[03:34] <muddle_through> seems like it takes special hardware to allow multiple hardware terminals on one PC
[03:35] <BlackAngelPR> not at all remember linux actually runs many tty already
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: cant ubuntu server do something like that?
[03:36] <BlackAngelPR> yes ubuntu can  need to be configure but its quite hard
[03:36] <muddle_through> lotus has a point, for sure
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: maybe talk to the #ubuntu-server guys for this
[03:37] <muddle_through> there's an entry for multiseat in wikipedia, too, i guess
[03:37] <alazierworkaholi> Can I install / on btrfs?
[03:37] <alazierworkaholi> WIthout problems?
[03:38] <muddle_through> that's a file system (btrfs) ?
[03:38] <BlackAngelPR> be  back
[03:40] <alazierworkaholi> muddle_through: yes, it's one of the filesystem options. I remember it caused problems in the past, but I'd like to know if 14.04 allows for installation 'simply'. I.e. without GPT partition table, separate /boot partition, etc.
[03:40] <muddle_through> never tried it
[03:41] <muddle_through> i just use the easy ext4. lazy i guess.
[03:42] <Al-Qaeda> hello
[03:44] <Kuwanger> I have a small problem on Ubuntu 12.04. I have /etc/rc.local and /etc/sysctl.conf that both are setting vm.dirty_bytes to 134217728 but something else is setting vm.dirty_ratio to 10.  Any idea on what could be setting vm.dirty_ratio or how to track down what is?
[03:45] <alazierworkaholi> Does anyone here have / on btrfs?
[03:45] <muddle_through> Kuwanger: you're getting an error message?
[03:46] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to get audacity, or some sound recording software to to record or dub. I can't seem to be able to get it to work. I think I need to enable "stereo mix" but the option doesn't seem available
[03:46] <Kuwanger> muddle_through: No.  I have rc.local setup to touch a file in root, so I know it's running.  But like I said, dirty_ratio is apparently being set after dirty_bytes is.  Setting one zeros out the other one.
[03:47]  * Datz may have found something
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | alazierworkaholi
[03:51] <fluter> hi,
[03:51] <fluter> I'm new to ubuntu, I met a upstart issue, anyone could help?
[03:51] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: Hello there, thanks for your earlier help. Unfortunately, the /community/btrfs page has NO information specifically about installing / on btrfs. I've found posts from previous releases, but btrfs support has been evolving. I cannot find any information about installing / on btrfs for 14.04.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> alazierworkaholi: as the url says, its experimental so...
[03:52] <muddle_through> fluter, what is it?
[03:53] <fluter> muddle_through, I use expect daemon for my daemon, and in the script block, if I use only exec mydaemon, it works, but if I add some setup before exec, then it cannot track my pid,
[03:53] <fluter> muddle_through, any ideas why?
[03:55] <muddle_through> fluter, no, sorry
[03:55] <fluter> muddle_through, okay
[03:55] <fluter> why this channel has 1655 but so inactive
[03:56] <muddle_through> people probably hang out and watch or talk in private messages
[03:56] <muddle_through> *shrugs*
[03:56] <xenocons> hi, cant seem to get rid of wretched guest account, seems related to lightdm somehow but for some reason lightdm.conf is ignored
[03:57] <sydney> fluter:  I am in different channels. ;)
[03:57] <fluter> sydney, which channel?
[03:57] <muddle_through> there's another reason :)
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: would you know of any resource detailing btrfs support this year?
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> for 14.04?
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> the community page is 3 years out of date
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> alazierworkaholi: can you tell us why you wanna use btrfs exactly?
[03:59] <muddle_through> alazier did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[04:00] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: sure... the compression options make it remarkably fast, and the snapshot feature could help me fix system problems that I spent the whole weekend trying to resolve, and that resulted in a reinstall :/
[04:01] <alazierworkaholi> muddle_through: yes, it has instructions for 11.04. 3 years old.
[04:01] <muddle_through> okay sorry
[04:01] <muddle_through> did you try google keywords: ubuntu btrfs
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua created an usb with ubuntu lubuntu and xubuntu both 32bit and 64bit (6iso's) on 1 usb tnx alot great tool!
[04:03] <shasharala> Hrm... why is there a user named backup? I went to adduser backup, but it tells me there's a user named that already... but the user isn't even in /etc/passwd. I've tried looking for any info through Google, but I can't seem to find anything. Any ideas?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> shasharala: you recently downloaded a rootkit? :p
[04:10] <shasharala> Hrm... why is there a user named backup? I went to adduser backup, but it tells me there's a user named that already... but the user isn't even in /etc/passwd. I've tried looking for any info through Google, but I can't seem to find anything. Any ideas?
[04:12] <Fyodorovna> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63685/what-is-the-default-backup-user-for for the record on a user named backup
[04:16] <Matt_> Is there a default ftp server running on Ubuntu 13.10?
[04:16] <Guest86329> Is there a default ftp server running on Ubuntu 13.10?
[04:16] <JordanJ2> Other then SFTP, no
[04:17] <halppls3993> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
[04:17] <halppls3993> Aborted (core dumped)
[04:17] <halppls3993> I get this when I run skype
[04:17] <halppls3993> it runs for about 30 seconds
[04:17] <halppls3993> but then crashes
[04:18] <Guest86329> Is there a way to check settings/default directories for SFTP?
[04:18] <sporkeee> halppls3993, This the app opening or starting with a terminal?
[04:19] <halppls3993> sporkeee, yes
[04:19] <sporkeee> halppls3993, read again
[04:19] <halppls3993> I am starting it/opening it in terminal
[04:19] <halppls3993> why do you ask, sporkeee ?
[04:20] <sporkeee> halppls3993, Cool just wondering. This instaled from skype or the ubuntu repos?
[04:20] <halppls3993> Ubuntu repos
[04:21] <sporkeee> halppls3993, Not sure of any answer, we ask on occasion a terminal start for errors, it looked like you had, a rare occurrence here.
[04:21] <Guest86329> Also, another question - you probably get this alot, but i'm trying to get a program to run on start up without any particular user needing to login
[04:24] <blinking> For example - the system reboots but it sits there at the login screen, I need a program to run without having to be there to login or run it.
[04:24] <blinking> I did some research about init.d and to do a script but it began to confuse me a bit
[04:27] <blinking> Any help?
[04:31] <Viking667> hullo all. Does anyone here know how to get jackd to talk nice to pulseaudio? I've got a program that uses jack, and put bluntly, I'm not hearing jack out of my speakers
[04:32] <Viking667> ugh. Forget that. I just realised it's LITERALLY coming out my speakers, not my headphones.
[04:41] <fabian__> c
[04:41] <fabian__> c
[04:47] <motaka2> is there a way to run ubuntu update manager through a proxy ?
[04:51] <lastarms> motaka2: add the proxy in network manager?
[04:52] <wols_> motaka2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[04:56] <Hardcheese> what's neopunk / neo punk cleaner that appears in my update manager?
[04:56] <motaka2> wols_: Can you please tell me how to do that with TOR proxy ?
[04:57] <wols_> why tor?
[04:57] <wols_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[04:57] <wols_> tor acts as a socks proxy for the system
[05:00] <motaka2> wols_: I just have tor installed
[05:02] <kingbeowolf> anyone know if there is a limitation in ubuntu/linux on how many Cameras you can have connected?
[05:06] <alazyworkaholic> I reinstalled ubuntu. I had a separate /home folder, and I am CERTAIN that I did not format the existing /home partition, which was a raid0 array. As soon as I started the new install, I installed mdadm, which assembled the array, but with a single user and only default clean install files. Is there any way mdadm might be mis-assembling the array?
[05:08] <orbisvicis> I'm trying to use terminus in xterm/urxvt but it doesn't show up in fc-list, and neither 'xft:Terminus' nor '-*-terminus-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' works
[05:09] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, did you use the alternative iso
[05:10] <orbisvicis> sorry, it doesn't show up in xfontsel, only in fc-list as a console font
[05:10] <alazyworkaholic> kingbeowolf: no, the usual ubuntu desktop x64 one.
[05:10] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, when i am setting up an array I use the console installer the gui one doesn't work well with raid
[05:11] <alazyworkaholic> kingbeowolf, ok, but if I didn't tell ubuntu to format it, that should be a pretty simple thing to get right. I'm hoping mdadm needs a fix
[05:12] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, well hopefully you have a backup
[05:12] <BlackAngelPR> ^^
[05:12] <diddledan> alazyworkaholic: it is actually mounted?
[05:13] <diddledan> alazyworkaholic: `sudo mount /home` will verify
[05:13] <diddledan> if it complains that /home isn't defined in fstab then you have your problem
[05:15] <Hardcheese> Isn't torifying apt-get a hazardous risk to your system?
[05:16] <Jonathan_R> i have a disability, staying vertical for long periods of time is not possible. i need speech to text so that the system will type what i say and perform the functions and commands i give it  most of the software seem to be geared for text to speech. i have installed LiSpeak, jovie, simon and some others
[05:17] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: how can you type right now?
[05:17] <Hardcheese> just curious
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> the normal way
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> i sit up and type
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> but consequently i can only do it for so long
[05:18] <a_run> i'm trying to PXE install ubuntu by creating a local mirror(amd64 ISO and apache)
[05:18] <a_run> i can wget the files from apache, but the installer says that it can't download file from mirror
[05:19] <a_run> any clues what I'd be doing wrong?
[05:20] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ?
[05:20] <a_run> apache access logs show 200 status for all files installer is asking for
[05:20] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ? http://prntscr.com/3rd0ay
[05:20] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, can't you just set a wireless keyboard on your chest and type ?
[05:21] <Jonathan_R> no kingbeowolf
[05:21] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: I don't know any speech-to-text software on linux. But there are software where you can control the cursor by moving your head (perhaps even eyes) and have a virtual keyboard on the screen (which is slow though)
[05:21] <Jonathan_R> thats strains my neck as well
[05:22] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_09_42_49-yUVcDMZa.png
[05:22] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: perhaps something to hold the keyboard in a position you like?
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> yeah, moving my neck not such a good idea
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> i'll be getting surgery done on my neck
[05:22] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, well you don't look at the keyboard you just type once you practice enough and you put the TV/Monitor high
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> actually i do
[05:22] <solarradiation> is fglrx the proprietary drivers for AMD or the open source?
[05:22] <orbisvicis> ok, I got it working
[05:22] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: how long do you need to stay that way? Can't you just be without a computer for some time?
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> i do the columbus method. i discover a new key
[05:23] <BlackAngelPR> Jonathan_R,  it seems Orca have preinstalled commandas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[05:23] <BlackAngelPR> is this what you are looking for?
[05:23] <motaka2> Jonathan Stop this chat in here
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> Hardcheese, the rest of my life
[05:23] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, haha
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> we are talking a permanent disability
[05:23] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: will it affect your hands?
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> arthritis has almost fused 2 discs
[05:23] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, i know i saw something about being able to talk to your computer
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> possibly
[05:24] <BlackAngelPR> Jonathan_R,  http://simon-listens.org/   it says its the most complete
[05:24] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, i just haven't looked into that stuff at all
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i could be paralized
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i'm not a n00b to linux
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i can compil gentoo
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i did the for a while
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> its just a matter of finding the software in this case
[05:25] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: well, I suppose more expensive software could do what you want. Windows vista ultimate for one, has that ability, and that was a long time ago. But I don't know of any free ones.
[05:25] <solarradiation> haha yes, compiling gentoo, watching gcc output fly across the screen makes you an expert
[05:25] <Jonathan_R> LiSpeak seems to be the closest, but i havent finished configuring it and i still nee to test it
[05:25] <Viking667> So, does anyone here know how to set up jack to point to another sound device and actually USE it?
[05:25] <Jonathan_R> i aint using windows (unless i got no choice)
[05:26] <Viking667> because whenever I try, the audio client (in this case, mplayer) only ever seems to point to the default jack
[05:26] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speech_Recognition
[05:26] <Viking667> (and I've got pulseaudio running too)
[05:26] <Jonathan_R> http://lispeak.bmandesigns.com/tutorial/install
[05:26] <Jonathan_R> yeah i read that already Hardcheese
[05:27] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: the proprietary ones could be options.
[05:27] <quoexl> Hello, I have been googling all night on how to make a TOR relay on ubuntu, any help?
[05:27] <clin> hi, any irc group for discussing graph algorithms?
[05:27] <Jonathan_R> true
[05:27] <BlackAngelPR> this one ....   http://simon-listens.org/index.php?id=122&L=1
[05:28] <buzzbadger> hi, anyone here use tails from a thumb drive?
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> ty BlackAngelPR
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> i do have simon installed
[05:28] <Viking667> buzzbadger: you're going to have to elaborate.
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> now its just configuring it
[05:28] <BlackAngelPR> great
[05:28] <Viking667> ...I know what a thumb drive, what do you mean by "tails"?
[05:28] <diddledan> quoexl: `sudo apt-get install tor` then edit /etc/tor/torrc to your liking followed by `sudo service tor start` - your router will need to forward the relevant ports you specify (default 9001 for relay-only)
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> buzzbadger: tails is not ubuntu
[05:29] <quoexl> omg you are my hero diddledan
[05:29] <buzzbadger> well, I'm still in the process of making a Tails usb. I made a dvd from an iso and want to know if I did it correctly. Instructions say I should be able to run the tails installer from there and clone to a usb.  I don't see any file on the cd that I can get to run, much less an installer.
[05:30] <kalen> hey everyone. Anyone else having issues with 14.04, Nvidia, and screen tearing?
[05:30] <buzzbadger> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04, that's why I asked in this room.
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> buzzbadger: https://tails.boum.org/support/index.en.html there is a tails specific channel on irc.oftc.net you'll probably have better luck there
[05:30] <diddledan> quoexl: if you're planning on running it long-term you might as well plop your details on here when it's up-and-running to potentially earn some swag: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/
[05:30] <BlackAngelPR> kalen, what drivers do you have installed?
[05:31] <BlackAngelPR> :S
[05:31] <kalen> I tried adding adding -bs to 50-xserver-command.conf, and I installed the PPA from this post here, neither seem to have worked: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450593/how-do-i-eliminate-screen-tearing-on-14-04-and-xbmc-with-nvidia-331
[05:31] <kalen> BlackAngelPR: the Nvidia binary drivers
[05:31] <Viking667> buzzbadger: as aeon-ltd has already specified, there's an IRC channel over on irc.oftc.net for tails.
[05:31] <buzzbadger> great, I'll try to find it now. thanks guys
[05:31] <kalen> 331.38 from "additional drivers"
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> kalen, try the stable ones for me the binary gives me problems before as well on a ati
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> and on my sister computer only stable works
[05:32] <kalen> you mean the Nouveau drivers?
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> binary do not on ati
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> on nvidida i mean
[05:32] <quoexl> thank you sir, sounds like a project for me
[05:33] <kalen> sorry, that's what I meant, the stable drivers from the Ubuntu Software & Updates, not the binaries from their website
[05:33] <quoexl> ati drivers have always been doodie
[05:33] <kalen> proprietary tested version
[05:36] <quoexl> I have a 12.04 server at my shop, currently running...samba, ftp, simple help, ntp, lamp, ssh, x11vnc... what other toys should I play with?
[05:36] <quoexl> oh sms gateway
[05:38] <quoexl> oh, and asterisk
[05:38] <quoexl> anyone home?
[05:39] <BlackAngelPR> quoexl, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/allpackages
[05:40] <BlackAngelPR> you could do a search there
[05:51] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I use AllowUnauthenticated for a specific repo only ?
[06:05] <megamansec> Hi everybody. I'm testing out the program 'ecryptfs-verify', but I don't understand the -p flag. the manual says 'True if a non-HOME directory is correctly configured for encryption, False otherwise.', but ecryptfs can only encrypt SWAP and $home directories, no?
[06:11] <megamansec> nvm. It's for OTHER mouanted devices.
[06:19] <quoexl> Anyone home?
[06:19] <ObrienDave> nope
[06:21] <quoexl> Dave I am trying to jam as much fun into 1 box as I can, currently I got LAMP, Simple Help, proftpd, samba, squid, ssh, x11vnc
[06:22] <quoexl> what toys am I missing?
[06:22] <kalen> quoexl it usually helps to have a purpose to use a tool
[06:23] <quoexl> well I am looking for tools to give me a purpose, this is an experimental server, not production
[06:23] <quoexl> been toying around with TOR but not sure if I want in that business
[06:24] <quoexl> I been messing with ubuntu since breezy and I have 1 thing I could not master...ldap
[06:25] <quoexl> I make a pigs breakfast of it every time
[06:27] <taotao> hello world
[06:27] <quoexl> the first program you create in any given language
[06:28] <taotao> haha
[06:29] <quoexl> hey taotao know what this is ^c^quit^x^quit dammit^exit
[06:29] <quoexl> everyone's first session in vi
[06:29] <taotao> i don't know. this is my first time to log in this .
[06:30] <quoexl> oh, welcome to my nightmare
[06:30] <quoexl> whatcha wanna know?
[06:30] <taotao> what is this?
[06:30] <quoexl> this is the Ubuntu support chat
[06:31] <taotao> ok. so we can ask questions about ubuntu?
[06:31] <quoexl> yuppers
[06:31] <quoexl> there are alot of us here so ask your arse off
[06:31] <quoexl> !ask
[06:33] <quoexl> ATH1...ACK
[06:35] <quoexl> nihao yimao
[06:35] <ev0l1ost> how
[06:35] <quoexl> en how!
[06:36] <ev0l1ost> error…
[06:36] <quoexl> operator headspace error
[06:36] <dubey> Hi
[06:37] <quoexl> hilo dubey
[06:38] <quoexl> what's on yer mind?
[06:38] <dubey> I am using ubuntu 10.04LTS and openssl version 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15. apt-get update/upgrade upgraded to 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18
[06:38] <ev0l1ost> how can i build pptp server in ubuntu with ipv6 only
[06:39] <ev0l1ost> i can only build it when ubuntu has an ipv4 address
[06:40] <dubey> What i want to upgrade it to 0.9.8za-7ubuntu
[06:40] <mashu> what is the difference between apt (advanced packaging tool), aptitude and synaptic
[06:40] <mashu> ??
[06:40] <yimao> I am using ubuntu 12.04.  10.04 ubuntu may be older
[06:41] <blinking> Can anybody link to a tutorial on how to begin a program on start up automatically?
[06:41] <quoexl> they all use apt and dpkg to get and install the file, just some are more graphic than others
[06:42] <quoexl> blinking: you want to run it as a daemon?
[06:42] <blinking> quoexl: yes - It needs to run without any interaction.
[06:43] <quoexl> ok how familiar are you with init.d directory
[06:44] <histo> blinking: /etc/rc.local
[06:44] <quoexl> histo, take him there
[06:44] <histo> blinking: what does your program do?
[06:44] <Corvette> Every time I start ubuntu I have to recalibrate my screens positioning. Why won't it save
[06:45] <blinking> thanks quoexl. histo: It's a utorrent server
[06:45] <mashu> Corvette, do you mean the layout of your monitors?
[06:45] <Corvette> mashu es
[06:45] <triplc> hi all. Which image is to install barebone Ubuntu (no X) to start a desktop? previously (12.04) i download the 'alternate' image. However i do not see 14.04 alternate
[06:45] <Corvette> yes
[06:46] <mashu> Corvette, is it only wrong on the login screen or ... even after you log in?
[06:46] <Corvette> No actually the login screen is correct every time but when I log in it changes
[06:46] <histo> blinking: the gui utorrent app?
[06:46] <histo> triplc: it's there
[06:46] <blinking> histo: No gui, just the server itself
[06:47] <mashu> Corvette, so your using dual monitors? what graphics card are you using?
[06:47] <histo> blinking: ahh well there should be a way to daemonize it.
[06:47] <Corvette> mashu quadruple monitors with a GTX670
[06:47] <blinking> histo: Thats what I was thinking, but i'm not familiar with scripting just yet in linux
[06:47] <triplc> histo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads <-- i only see alternate image for 12.04.4
[06:47] <mashu> NVIDIA?
[06:47] <histo> blinking: isn't utorrent windows program?
[06:47] <rww> !mini | triplc
[06:47] <Corvette> mashu indeed
[06:47] <rww> !alternate | histo
[06:48] <blinking> histo: No exclusively.
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, what driver are you using?
[06:48] <blinking> not*
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu the proprietary drivers
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, did you install one? are you using the generic or the NVidia one?
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers the newest ones
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, the tested one?
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu es
[06:48] <histo> ahh nice
[06:49] <Corvette> yes
[06:49] <mashu> Corvette, do you have Xserver installed?
[06:49] <histo> triplc: use the server iso then
[06:49] <histo> triplc: or the mini.iso
[06:49] <Corvette> mashu nvidia x server settings?
[06:49] <mashu> Corvette, yeah
[06:49] <histo> blinking: let me find a page for ya
[06:49] <Corvette> mashu yes
[06:49] <triplc> oh i see.. it is "netinstall" (like debian)
[06:49] <blinking> histo: cheers mate.
[06:50] <mashu> Corvette, under X server infromation ->> X server display configuration --> did you set the layout and then click "save to X configuration file?
[06:51] <Corvette> mashu I tried to do that once but for some reason that app is glitchy on the new ubuntu, the default display app works better. Is that nvidia app reconfiguring it every time I log in?
[06:51] <mashu> Corvette, im not sure ...
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, im trying to trouble shoot
[06:52] <histo> blinking: http://blog.droidzone.in/2013/03/09/how-to-start-utorrent-server-at-boot-on-debian/  follow the directions for on older than debian6
[06:52] <Corvette> I'll find out brb
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, try that again ... save it to the configuration file and restart and see if it works if not ...
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, i have one last idea
[06:52] <histo> rww: why'd they get rid of it?
[06:53] <mashu> Corvette, override the existing file
[06:53] <mashu> Corvette, i have the new ubuntu and im not having any issues with it
[06:53] <Corvette> brb
[06:54] <rww> histo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html
[06:54] <rww> histo: tl;dr: Ubiquity does non-standard partitioning stuff now.
[06:55] <rww> (not that I agree with dropping it, but there's the reasoning)
[06:55] <histo> rww: is the server kernel different or the same nowadays
[06:56] <rww> histo: linux-image-server is a transitional package to linux-image-generic, so...
[06:56] <histo> triplc: yeah from the net installer there is command line install
[06:57] <rww> (apparently this is since 12.04)
[06:57] <triplc> i see
[06:57] <histo> rww: they could just get rid of server release then just have desktop and net
[06:58] <rww> histo: server comes with server-related packages on the CD, which I guess might be useful sometimes
[06:58]  * rww shrugs
[06:58] <histo> rww: true I guess.
[06:58] <rww> my preferred ISO for servers is a Debian netinst, not an Ubuntu anything, so...
[06:58] <blinking> histo: Thankyou for that, i'll check it out
[06:58] <histo> rww: I second that.
[06:59] <histo> blinking: you're basically creating an init script to control the start and stopping of the utserver
[07:01] <dubey> can someone guide me how to upgrade  openssl 0.9.8k TO 0.9.8za ?
[07:01] <triplc> My idea is to have a minimal desktop (X/nvidia/i3...) and I found that the alternate image is good. I can install it fast and play with it. If something not happy, i can reinstall,... and at last i get a good desktop
[07:01] <triplc> but using the netistall is not that good
[07:01] <triplc> each time installation will take a lot of time
[07:02] <triplc> so it does not allow me to test
[07:03] <triplc> during the 12.04 install --my current desktop-- i had played with pulseaudio include/exclude, gvfs, etc. before geting exactly what i want
[07:05] <histo> triplc: well then you'd have to use the server iso
[07:05] <histo> triplc: I have high speed internet so the net install isn't a problem here. I also use i3
[07:05] <luckybunny> anyone know what this little issue is I ran into on my desktop? From the looks of things, update-manager wants to downgrade wine for me. Obviously, I'd rather upgrade, not downgrade
[07:05] <luckybunny> here's a screenshot from synaptic http://i.imgur.com/ctmbhKU.png
[07:05] <triplc> yeah... hope that the server iso does not include other stuffs
[07:05] <Corvette> musha it did not work
[07:05] <Corvette> mashu
[07:05] <scipy53> When I run uname -r, i get this: 3.13.0-29-generic but I can't find related kernel here: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/
[07:05] <mashu> Corvette, hmmm
[07:05] <scipy53> any help? please!
[07:05] <mashu> go to your home folder
[07:06] <histo> scipy53: what are you trying to do?
[07:06] <scipy53> histo, I am trying to run some kernel patches, I installed chrubuntu and updated my kernel, which disabled my trackpad
[07:06] <triplc> scipy53: ubuntu have it's own way of naming that number
[07:06] <histo> !derivative | scipy53
[07:07] <histo> !derivatives | scipy53
[07:07] <scipy53> scipy53, So how should I do it? im following second post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223738
[07:07] <scipy53> well, im just trying to make sure i am figuring out my kernel version correctly
[07:09] <xuhaiwei_> Hi, I met a problem when installing ubuntu14.04, 'unable to install grub to /dev/xxxx' , what is the reason?
[07:09] <histo> triplc: the one thing that burns my behind with i3 is that you can't exit without using the mouse by default. You have to go up there and click exit i3
[07:10] <triplc> in that forum, you can see that they use the apt-get source linux-image-$mykern to grab what is the ubuntu patches
[07:10] <histo> xuhaiwei_: which disk are you using?
[07:10] <dupingping> who can help me?
[07:10] <histo> !ask | dupingping
[07:10] <triplc> then you get the version,... not my 'uname -r' (which tell ubuntu number)
[07:10] <xuhaiwei_> histo: you mean sda or sdb?
[07:10] <dupingping> I see.
[07:11] <histo> xuhaiwei_: No which iso are you using
[07:11] <histo> sry
[07:11] <xuhaiwei_> ubuntu14.04
[07:11] <dupingping> I am using Canon Pixma IP1180, but in ubuntu12.04lts I could not print with it.
[07:11] <SpoonAlien> hello
[07:11] <triplc> histo: i3? exit? yeah... i do not use XDM at all; i just wrote a script and get it called in rc.local, so that when computer boot, i go right into X/i3
[07:11] <triplc> no login needed
[07:12] <dupingping> how to download exactly printer driver?
[07:12] <triplc> so no logout needed either
[07:12] <dupingping> histo: can you help me?
[07:12] <xuhaiwei_> histo: ubuntu14.04 LTS Server
[07:12] <histo> dupingping: did you try going to printers in the dash and just adding it?
[07:13] <histo> xuhaiwei_: did you retry that step in the installer?
[07:13] <dupingping> histo: yes. I tried everything.
[07:15] <xuhaiwei_> histo:sorry, i don't know how to try in the installer
[07:15] <hackvictim> hello
[07:15] <dupingping> http://askubuntu.com/questions/313252/canon-ip1180-printer-driver-for-ubuntu
[07:15] <histo> dupingping: what make model printer do you have?
[07:15] <histo> nvm
[07:15] <dupingping> histo: Canon, Pixma IP1180.
[07:16] <histo> dupingping: did you see the answer to your question to download the driver from canon
[07:16] <dupingping> yes, but...
[07:16] <quoexl> hello hackvictim
[07:16] <hackvictim> hey guys, not sure if thats the right place but i have an really uncomfortable issue...
[07:16] <hackvictim> i run several minecraft servers (2 hardware boxes, 1 vps as nginx/varnish combo for webservices) am actually a sysadmin so i am technically familair with all this... but for some months we have this guy, who just is able to gain access to either our ssh root shells or to the minecraft consoles as well.
[07:17] <quoexl> !ask
[07:17] <histo> dupingping: extract the tgz you download and look for a readme or directions
[07:17] <hackvictim> i was able to get in touch with him, kind already friends, but he said "he is using ubuntu kernel bugs to gain root since months"
[07:17] <quoexl> ask away hackvictim
[07:17] <hackvictim> which is not released to anyone
[07:17] <dupingping> yes, I see.
[07:17] <hackvictim> is this possible? i mean, this guy seems like a kid
[07:17] <hackvictim> and i somehow doubt at my skills, becuase i cant get him away
[07:17] <CommissarSierra> PErsonally, I think that 90% of the time, if they brag, they're nothing
[07:18] <CommissarSierra> The real hackers won't announce it like that
[07:18] <hackvictim> we use a hardened iptables config, openvpn network between the servers
[07:18] <hackvictim> fail2ban, etc
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: I also found this
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: http://www.unixmen.com/install-canon-pixma-ip1880-in-linux/
[07:18] <CommissarSierra> Also I'm half asleep so I probably shouldnt be talking.
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: here is a deb allegedly https://sites.google.com/site/sayeed76/Home/googleb1da27a3f5a65e86
[07:18] <hackvictim> CommissarSierra: but what could it be that he is able to gain root acess
[07:19] <hackvictim> on this box: Linux r2-d2 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:19] <quoexl> hackvictim: one set of eyes on a problem takes 1000 years to solve, 1000 sets of eyes solve the problem in minutes
[07:19] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim: He has login details to someone's account?
[07:19] <hackvictim> no commissarie, i change all ssh accounts
[07:19] <hackvictim> *passwords and keys
[07:19] <hackvictim> if something like this happens
[07:19] <hackvictim> and it takes some hours and he is in there again, if he wants to
[07:20] <hackvictim> he doesnt do anything stupid of broken, but im still feeling very uncomfortable
[07:20] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim How did you distribute the new login details? Could be a compromised email account, someone sharing details, etc. Just trying to throw out ideas here.
[07:20] <histo> hackvictim: how do you know he's there?
[07:20] <histo> hackvictim: also have you checked your auth.log's
[07:20] <hackvictim> histo, he can show me output of files with root perms
[07:21] <hackvictim> i am in touch with him
[07:21] <hackvictim> he said he oesnt leave any trails
[07:21] <quoexl> do you have x11vnc running as a daemon?
[07:21] <histo> hackvictim: check your auth.log's
[07:21] <quoexl> that is horsesquat, auth.log sees all
[07:21] <histo> quoexl: well all until you clear it
[07:22] <quoexl> unless that file is GONE then he might have been there
[07:22] <quoexl> he would have to create a auth.log that looks convincing
[07:22] <quoexl> btdt
[07:23] <blinking> histo: for what ever reason, attempting to start the script that link showed me does not work.
[07:23] <histo> hackvictim: I howly doubt it's through ssh that he's gaining access what other remote administration holes do you have?
[07:23] <histo> blinking: well you'd have to describe 'doesn't work' for anyone to help you.
[07:23] <blinking> histo: I don't think it's getting the input I type in after I run it ./utstart start
[07:23] <hackvictim> histo: nothing, i get auth logs right now
[07:24] <hackvictim> histo: i mean no security wholes
[07:24] <histo> blinking: well what directoins are you following?
[07:24] <hackvictim> on that server where he got access, only nginx/varnish/mysql is running
[07:24] <histo> hackvictim: do you know his IP ?
[07:24] <hackvictim> but mysql not from external
[07:24] <hackvictim> histo: no, i didnt seen any ip logs from him yet
[07:25] <blinking> histo: I created the script which has a case statement with start) stop) and so forth, it says to run the script use ./utstart start however this just returns Usage: start stop
[07:25] <histo> blinking: where did you put the script?
[07:25] <blinking> histo: within /etc/init.d
[07:25] <blinking> histo: I even attempted to use sudo and run it like that
[07:26] <histo> blinking: you would have to sudo /etc/init.d/utserver start
[07:26] <scipy53> when i run uname -r and get "3.13.0-29-generic", what exactly does that mean. The 0-29 generic part, anyway.
[07:26] <quoexl> did you use the skeleton template blinking
[07:26] <histo> scipy53: please ask the makers of your distro
[07:26] <scipy53> ok, ill ask in xubuntu
[07:26] <blinking> histo: yes, I tried that. but it continues to just echo Usage: start stop
[07:27] <histo> scipy53: you said you were using chrubuntu or something
[07:27] <blinking> quoexl: yes I did - I change the path to utserver though
[07:27] <histo> !info linux-image
[07:27] <scipy53> histo, Chrubuntu is just a script to install a *buntu on a chromebook
[07:28] <hackvictim> histo: thats the accepted connections by auth.log
[07:28] <hackvictim> http://hastebin.com/manaroxore
[07:28] <hackvictim> tons of failed request but thats normal... thats why i have fail2ban
[07:29] <mashu> should i use aptitude or apt-get?
[07:29] <hackvictim> what else should i look at? :S
[07:30] <histo> hackvictim: why are you allowing root login via ssh for one?
[07:30] <Pris0ner> Hi!
[07:30] <hackvictim> histo: true
[07:30] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim: Anything at all that allows remote access to the server
[07:30] <hackvictim> thanks, i'll disable that immedietly
[07:30] <blinking> histo, quoexl: is the case statement case "" in correct?
[07:31] <Pris0ner> How are you?
[07:31] <hackvictim> CommissarSierra: http://hastebin.com/giganedeqa
[07:31] <histo> hackvictim: why do you even have root account enable for two.. Also therre are only two different people logging in there. You'd have to determine his IP and see if it matches
[07:31] <hackvictim> histo: thats all me
[07:31] <hackvictim> one at home, at then at work
[07:31] <kDycuLaptop> Is there a handy way to search to entire file system for references to a specfic file?
[07:32] <histo> kDycuLaptop: find
[07:32] <histo> kDycuLaptop: find / -type f -iname 'whatever*'
[07:33] <hackvictim> be right back... coffee break, ping me and i'll read up when i get back in 15 min :)
[07:33] <quoexl> damn long way for a coffee
[07:33] <histo> hackvictim: run a root kit hunter and see
[07:33] <histo> hackvictim: like apt-get install rkhunter
[07:34] <JerryP> Anyone know of a good alternative to using iTunes to sync music, videos, and photos to an iPhone? That is the primary thing that is holding me from dumping windows and only using my ubuntu. Thanks!
[07:34] <quoexl> JerryP you could use samba
[07:35] <xangua> JerryP: a virtual machine running windows or change to use a device that is not closed
[07:35] <quoexl> or proftpd
[07:35] <histo> !iphone | JerryP
[07:35] <JerryP> xangua, then all of my music, videos, and pictures need to be on the virtual machine, right?
[07:38] <quoexl> network troubles?
[07:38] <trijntje> I'm trying to install ubuntu with the mini.iso to /dev/sdb. However, the installer automatically puts grub on /dev/sda. How can I fix this?
[07:39] <IPMan> network troubles?
[07:39] <IPMan> I am IP Man!
[07:39] <CommissarSierra> Ta ta ta TAAA
[07:39] <CommissarSierra> Also dont think I've seen any network issues
[07:39] <Guest91754> dum dee deeda dum dee deeda
[07:39] <Guest91754> no work for IP Man?
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: you can choose where to install it during the partitioning step there.
[07:40] <Quoexl> ok back to me
[07:41] <Quoexl> we have a running joke at work of who gets to be Ip Man for a day
[07:42] <trijntje> histo: I can select to install to /dev/sdb, which I did. However, you cannot select where to install grub, and it defaults to /dev/sda
[07:43] <histo> trijntje: well yes you would need grub on sda to boot properly or you can manually install grub to sdb. Then you'd have to change the boot priority of your drives every time you wanted to boot ubuntu.
[07:44] <trijntje> histo: no, the internal harddisk is /dev/sdb
[07:44] <histo> trijntje: Why can't you install grub to /dev/sdb?
[07:45] <FredddyTom> hi.. i've been trying to share a directory with another ubuntu 12.04 computer on the network
[07:45] <FredddyTom> it doesn't seem to work.. where are the log files for it?
[07:45] <Quoexl> because the windows drive lives in the boot sector of sda
[07:45] <trijntje> histo: what do you mean? The installer defaults to /dev/sda and I dont get an option to install it somewhere else when using the mini.iso
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: do you have to option of "Something Else"  ?
[07:47] <trijntje> histo: no, I only have to option to install grub or lilo
[07:47] <Quoexl> wtf distro uses lilo anymore?
[07:48] <tothebeach> hey, sorry to bop in and drop a demand for info, but... anyone know anything about bioset? Is it a system process ?
[07:48] <histo> trijntje: hold on let me get my install to that point
[07:49] <Quoexl> tothebeach: tried man -k binset
[07:49] <trijntje> histo: ok, i'm trying to install grub manually from chroot but somehow grub-installer isnt present
[07:50] <tothebeach> Quoexl: nada
[07:50] <tothebeach> :(
[07:50] <cjae> hey is it possible to move the panel or docker or whatever now in unity, or is it possible to move the oOX window buttons to the right now? havent been in unity in ages
[07:51] <xangua> cjae: no and no
[07:51] <Quoexl> unity is poo
[07:52] <tothebeach> Quoexl: So its not a process your familiar with right?
[07:52] <Stanley00> Quoexl: unity is as great as you know how to use it ;)
[07:52] <tothebeach> I am seeing it pop up on bitcoin miners, vps's and random boxes I have
[07:52] <Quoexl> I have fiddled with unity for quite a while and still prefer gnome
[07:53] <Quoexl> its a personal preference
[07:53] <tothebeach> even after flashing etc.
[07:53] <FredddyTom> hey i can't get the sharing to work in ubuntu at all.. i'm trying to share files between one ubuntu 12.04 and another.. there are no logs in /var/log/samba and the username and password i am using is correct
[07:54] <tothebeach> am I paranoid or is this something I may need to worry about?
[07:54] <Quoexl> everyone is going to scream for my head for saying this but webmin is the way to fix samba
[07:54] <histo> trijntje: does it try and install grub at the end?
[07:54] <histo> trijntje: did you already create your user etc...?
[07:54] <Overlordz> I've found a fun bug with Ubuntu...
[07:55] <trijntje> histo: yes, grub is one of the last things to get installed
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: there is a rescue mode on the mini.iso  i'm just checking if they have to grub tools there
[07:55] <bcvery> !bug | Overlordz
[07:56] <Overlordz> gracias
[07:56] <loa> hello, i have such problem when i try update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[07:56] <tothebeach> so, is anyone familiar with bioset?
[07:56] <bcvery> !ask | tothebeach
[07:57] <hackvictim> histo: will try that now :)
[07:57] <tothebeach> bcvery, thanks?
[07:58] <larrypg> tothebeach, might have something to do with trucrypt...block in out set
[07:58] <trijntje> histo: ok, I got grub on sdb by dropping to a prompt, chrooting into the install, installing grub-pc and grub-common and running grub-install /dev/sdb. I should probably file a bug for the alternate installer. I know that the graphical installer defaults grub to the device that has / on it
[07:59] <tothebeach> larrypg: interesting, but its popping up on openwrt\ubuntu and dd-wrt, some are even vps boxes....
[08:00] <tothebeach> and I cant seem to find any info (which was what made me suspicious)
[08:01] <tothebeach> google\duckduck "process bioset" and there is a noticable lack of information, a few posts by users like myself asking about it without any clear answers
[08:01] <larrypg> tothebeach, although not that helpful...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2227781
[08:03] <tothebeach> larrypg: I read over that just before giving up and dropping in here.
[08:03] <tothebeach> thanks though :)
[08:04] <cjae> Ok so if you cant move anything to the right, do any alternate DE works correctly in 14.04 yet? I installed one awhile back and it borked the system
[08:05] <cjae> I mean installing them side by side
[08:05] <tothebeach> perhaps if I ask again during the day tommorow ... whats an active hour in this channel?
[08:05] <Quoexl> you could try gnome-desktop-fallback
[08:06] <cjae> think I tried flashback or whatever they called it
[08:06] <Quoexl> then install gdm and select it over lightdm
[08:06] <Quoexl> well try sudo apt-cache search gnome-desktop-fallback
[08:06] <cjae> from my understanding not everything is ported over the 14.04 repos yet?
[08:07] <Quoexl> I think gnome made it
[08:07] <motaka2> When I try to install open JDK this does happen. Wha should I do ?
[08:07] <motaka2>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622308/
[08:07] <cjae> I know compiz isnt
[08:08] <Quoexl> its pretty and all but it doesnt enhance productivity
[08:08] <cjae> and is it even gonna be? since its development is halted
[08:08] <cfhowlett> cjae no development = unlikely to be ported
[08:09] <cjae> lots of work to be "left behind"
[08:09] <Quoexl> I think its both the left and the right behind personally
[08:09] <cfhowlett> motaka2 as it states ; select one
[08:10] <Quoexl> it should say "Do it NOW, monkey?"
[08:10] <cjae> Quoexl, you mean the right decison?
[08:10] <motaka2> cfhowlett: How?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> motaka2 sudo apt-get install thisone or thatone
[08:11] <cfhowlett> motaka2 you have two options listed.  choose one or the other
[08:11] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I dont want something from oracle. Cause it is closed to my country
[08:11] <cjae> decision*
[08:12] <Quoexl> well that makes the decision easy
[08:13]  * cjae thinks it sad to see stuff go like that
[08:13]  * Quoexl to oracle or not to oracle
[08:14] <demoz> hello,i have a cron job which start the script.script path is /var/log/script/script.sh ,however the output is under /root/ instead of the place where the script is iniciated. Is there some argument which will output results of script to correct folder ?
[08:14] <Quoexl> sure run it under sudo su
[08:14] <cjae> think of all the arguments, " come to bed honey" hang on just gotta finish this beryl code......divorce
[08:15] <Quoexl> think of this old man's wisdom, marry a geek
[08:15] <demoz> Quoexl is that reply for me :o ?
[08:15] <cjae> hahaha yee
[08:17] <fluter> is upstart now used in any releases?
[08:17] <fluter> or it has been replaced with systemd completely?
[08:17] <loa> hello, i have such problem when i am trying to update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[08:17] <Quoexl> nope that was for cjae
[08:17] <Quoexl> but take that to heart demoz
[08:18] <ikonia> fluter: systemd will come in later releases.
[08:18] <fluter> ikonia, so upstart is still serving now, right?
[08:18] <demoz> lol
[08:18] <ikonia> fluter: correct
[08:19] <fluter> why no one answer upstart questions? even in #upstart :(
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !patience|fluter
[08:20] <Quoexl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[08:20] <ikonia> fluter I have no idea why no-one answered your question, I'm not in control of their thought process
[08:20] <Quoexl> heck, I'm not even in control of my thought process
[08:20] <fluter> I added my service to a upstart job, and it will fork twice, I use expect daemon, and in script block, exec mydaemon
[08:20] <fluter> but upstart cannot track my pid
[08:21] <Quoexl> do you have the skeleton template in init.d
[08:21] <fluter> Quoexl, no, just in /etc/init/myservice.conf
[08:22] <onlygod> Hi guys , i have problem with my network-manager on ubuntu , it doesn't show wireless SSIDs ,indeed i have wlan0 interface , what's the problem ?
[08:23] <tomodachi> onlygod: sounds like a wifi driver issue
[08:23] <Quoexl> onlygod: forgive my humor, its a borked wifi driver
[08:23] <hackvictim> histo: thats my result: http://hastebin.com/pifiluwoku
[08:24] <onlygod> tomodachi: Quoexl  that driver was working for years , iwl3495
[08:25] <onlygod> tomodachi: Quoexl  and i have tried rmmod & modprobe too
[08:25] <tomodachi> onlygod: I dont know this would be my first assumption, try booting an older kernel. Might be a newly introduced bug
[08:25] <Quoexl> any updates come through lately?
[08:26] <Quoexl> ok the IT in me has to say "have you turned it off and back on again?"
[08:29] <tothebeach> cjae, sure blame it on the code, the stripper had nothing to do with it
[08:29] <Quoexl> lapdances are much better if the stripper is crying
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !ot
[08:29] <Quoexl> sorry
[08:29] <cfhowlett> let's keep it clean - family friendly channel here
[08:30] <Pupeno_> Is there a command to verify whether a user belongs to a group?
[08:30] <tothebeach> sorry, couldnt resist, will keep in mind the channel topic :)
[08:30] <brainbleach> ok I'm better
[08:31] <onlygod> tomodachi: this happened while my system crashed and rebooted , after system booted , wlan0 is not going to be up automatically like before ..why ?
[08:33] <Quoexl> check /etc/network/interfaces and see if anything has changed
[08:37] <loa> is there official way to backup ubuntu files?
[08:38] <loa> want something like system snapshot
[08:38] <Quoexl> loa do you have an external drive of equal size?
[08:39] <solarradiation> loa there are probably sophisticated ways to do so, but i usually just backup my home directory
[08:39] <onlygod> tomodachi: i think this is why i was configuring hostapd before , but i don't know which step may cause wlan not be up automatically
[08:39] <loa> Quoexl, i want backup only system files before update
[08:40] <solarradiation> loa you mean backup before every apt-get upgrade?
[08:40] <loa> i think about just rsync
[08:40] <solarradiation> you do not need to do that
[08:41] <loa> solarradiation, becouse?
[08:41] <Quoexl> I use rsync and cron all day every day
[08:41] <loa> o love my current env.
[08:41] <solarradiation> loa b/c linux upgrades are more, uhh... robust than windows
[08:42] <solarradiation> it you want to keep configs only, may etckeeper
[08:42] <Quoexl> yeah someone can come along and give you unity
[08:42] <loa> i have problem with upgrading to 14.04...
[08:42] <solarradiation> well i'm talking about within-release upgrades
[08:42] <solarradiation> dist-upgrades are slightly different
[08:42] <Quoexl> loa: what is the problem
[08:42] <SierraAR> Out of curiousity, what would you guys recommend I replace unity with in 14.04?
[08:43] <solarradiation> xfce
[08:43] <SierraAR> Hm.. xfce is what comes with xubuntu isnt it?
[08:43] <loa> i post problem ealier few times, can i repost?
[08:43] <Quoexl> imho sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-fallback and gdm
[08:43] <cfhowlett> SierraAR try them all and make your own choice:  sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde kde
[08:44] <SierraAR> cfhowlett: I didnt know I could have them all installed at once like that, that wont cause conflicts?
[08:44] <loa> Quoexl, hello, i have such problem when i try update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[08:44] <cfhowlett> SierraAR that command installs ONLY the desktop environments, not the meta packages.  and since you can only use a single DE at a time, no conflict.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> SierraAR OR you could install virtualbox, put a *buntu into VBOX and test with zero risk to your primary OS
[08:46] <Quoexl> loa: the way I did it is EXTREMELY not suggested.
[08:46] <loa> Quoexl, it message from update-manager
[08:46] <SierraAR> cfhowlett: I actually run ubuntu in a virtual machine on my desktop, instead dual booting
[08:46] <loa> it is
[08:46] <Quoexl> and it will not let you do it?
[08:47] <SierraAR> But I'll give that  atry when the desktop's done throwing a fit xD
[08:47] <cfhowlett> SierraAR perfect.  install your DE's, logout, choose alternate DE, login and taste it
[08:47] <SierraAR> That's simple and easy
[08:47] <loa> Quoexl, it halts with that message. i seen this message earlier from sotware-center and i fixed it by changing sources.
[08:47] <cfhowlett> SierraAR indeed.  if you find you heavily prefer a specific DE, consider that flavor
[08:47] <loa> now, i don't kow what to do.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !flavors| SierraAR
[08:48] <SierraAR> !mythbuntu
[08:49] <Quoexl> I could never get mythbuntu to work properly
[08:49] <SierraAR> Doesnt XBMC have a feature similar to what mythtv does?
[08:49] <Quoexl> 37 other servers but mythbuntu and LAPD kill me
[08:50] <cfhowlett> SierraAR believe so, but IIRC it's a tighter integration in mythbuntu ... other's would know more
[08:52] <Quoexl> make that LDAP
[08:52] <loa> Qasker, looks like i will be on ubuntu 13.10 for some time.
[08:53] <loa> when it eol?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> loa considering that 13.10 reaches end of life in a matter of weeks ...
[08:53] <loa> i hope not in 2014?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !13.10
[08:53] <loa> lol
[08:53] <loa> can you help me then with that error?
[08:53] <bazhang> nine months isn't it
[08:54] <Quoexl> I can tell you the "NOT RECOMMENDED" way
[08:54] <cfhowlett> loa 9 months of support ...
[08:54] <Quoexl> but someone will kick me
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Quoexl take it to PM
[08:54] <loa> Quoexl, i just do update-manager update.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> loa wait.  stop messing with the -d variable.  when 14.04.1  comes out next month, do apt-get release-upgrade
[08:56] <loa> cfhowlett, but it said that new release ready without -d
[08:56] <cfhowlett> loa OR download the ISO and do a clean install
[08:57] <loa> cfhowlett, i will wait.
[08:57] <loa> i love current installation.
[09:00] <loa> so eol is in july, how long there will be downloadable packages for it?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> loa july ...
[09:01] <Quoexl> I'm still on 12.04 and the repos still work
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Quoexl as 12.04 has 5 years of Long Term Support
[09:01] <Quoexl> true
[09:01] <loa> Quoexl, it's eol in april 2017
[09:02] <Quoexl> lts is the only thing I'd put in production
[09:02] <loa> i am about how carefull i need to be about updating my system?
[09:02] <loa> i need to setup date for this in my calendar?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Quoexl completely agree - production systems should be LTS
[09:03] <Quoexl> bleeding edge isnt the way to make a happy IT Manager
[09:03] <loa> what production?
[09:03] <loa> i am about home pc
[09:03] <cfhowlett> loa choose your poison.  For Long Term Support, 12.04 or 14.04.  download the ISO and install.
[09:03] <Quoexl> production means systems that arent experimental
[09:04] <rorre> Hello from Brazil
[09:04] <Quoexl> Hola
[09:04] <ObrienDave> greetings
[09:04] <cfhowlett> loa if you NEED the latest/greatest/shiny stuff and don't mind tweaking your system, install every version as it is published.  otherwise, go with LTS only.  WAY fewer headaches.
[09:04] <Quoexl> !ask
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !brazil|Quoexl
[09:05] <Quoexl> nada, englais
[09:05] <rorre> anyone know an app i can watch processor's temperature?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <Quoexl> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:06] <Quoexl> sorry, I'm slow
[09:06] <loa> psensor
[09:06] <rorre> thank you
[09:06] <loa> unity friendly stuff
[09:06] <Quoexl> imho unity is NOT friendly
[09:07] <gry> heh
[09:07] <gry> it is to some
[09:07] <SierraAR> OHai gry
[09:07] <Quoexl> its teh debbil
[09:07] <gry> hi
[09:07] <lgp171188> Hi, I know that with the advent of mult-arch, 'ia32-libs' package is gone. I know I can install i386 versions of those packages. But how do I know which packages?
[09:07] <gry> don't stop them from liking it then, Quoexl
[09:07] <Quoexl> fair enough
[09:11] <funkyHat> lgp171188: "which packages" for what? The point is you install the same library packages from the i386 repo as you would if you were installing the same software on a native i386 system.
[09:12] <lgp171188> funkyHat, my question is what packages did the 'ia32-libs' metapackage install? If I know that I can install the same using the :i386 qualifier.
[09:13] <funkyHat> lgp171188: it installed many many libraries, most of which are not needed by specific individual i386 software. Why do you want to install all of them?
[09:13] <oaulakh> do we have any android apps player in ubuntu?
[09:14] <lastarms> oaulakh: you mean bluestack?
[09:14] <ObrienDave> you mean like an Android emulator?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> oaulakh the official android SDK
[09:15] <lgp171188> funkyHat, Because I am debugging an issue where a software that used to run on 12.04 no longer runs with 13.10 and has a dependency on ia32-libs. At this moment, I am not sure of what exactly are the dependencies, so I want to see installing all those packages to see if it works.
[09:15] <oaulakh> yeah right
[09:15] <oaulakh> but for linux
[09:15] <oaulakh> not through wine or something
[09:15] <ObrienDave> eclipse is the development environment
[09:15] <oaulakh> means?
[09:16] <Quoexl> so you propose slinging excrement at the wall to see what sticks?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> oaulakh the android SDK runs on linux
[09:16] <cfhowlett> as well as windows, OSX
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ask #android
[09:17] <Quoexl> android = linux OSX = FreeBSD...linux
[09:17] <ObrienDave> http://developer.android.com
[09:18] <oaulakh> can we install apps in sdk?
[09:18] <gry> an emulator is meaningless without ability to install apps imo
[09:18] <ObrienDave> not sure on that
[09:18] <cfhowlett> oaulakh this is ubuntu.  for android support, go ask #android        !!!!
[09:18] <gry> cfhowlett, patience sir :) it is a linux software, they just support their os
[09:18] <Quoexl> I have jellybean in a virtualbox, its bad with no touch screen
[09:18] <cfhowlett> oaulakh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_SDK#SDK
[09:19] <oaulakh> i just want to know about player
[09:19] <oaulakh> you throw me in sdk conversation
[09:19] <ObrienDave> then go ask #android
[09:19] <Ben64> ok then, the short answer is "no" you cannot run android apps in ubuntu
[09:19] <gry> did you not hear me, ObrienDave?
[09:20] <Ben64> gry: it is not on topic here
[09:20] <bazhang> gry , it's not on topic here
[09:20] <oaulakh> hahhahaha
[09:20] <gry> that's weird - I suspect it's not ontopic there either so I'm not sure where he'll head now
[09:20] <oaulakh> okkk
[09:20] <oaulakh> then where should i go now?
[09:20] <oaulakh> to #android?
[09:21] <bazhang> !alis | oaulakh
[09:21] <histo> oaulakh: you can run android apps if you install the sdk with the mulator
[09:21] <gry> oaulakh, /msg'ed
[09:21] <Quoexl> you can get android 4.2.2 to install in a virtualbox
[09:22] <hackvictim> anyone else have an idea? i struggle as victim of a (wannabe) but can't explain the vulnerability he's using, he can gain root access, no external services running besids ssh, varnish and nginx. already run rkhunter, nothing found - previous conversation in here: http://hastebin.com/ovovutodun
[09:22] <Ben64> hackvictim: format and reinstall, only way to be sure
[09:22] <oaulakh> dthanks guys
[09:22] <Quoexl> nuke them from orbit...
[09:22] <oaulakh> i will search it myself
[09:22] <oaulakh> :)
[09:23] <funkyHat> lgp171188: ok. Here is the list of dependencies in the 13.04 version of ia32-libs(-multiarch): http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ia32-libs-multiarch but if you're upgraded from a version of ubuntu where it worked and it now doesn't then I wouldn't be too hopeful that installing that stuff will work
[09:23] <Quoexl> you could set up a honey pot and get him fornicated
[09:23] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> first try not advertising what a noob u are
[09:23] <hackvictim> hmm, i actually thought i could prevent that
[09:23] <bazhang> Quoexl, thats enough
[09:23] <Quoexl> get iptables into the game, block all incoming transactions
[09:24] <bazhang> Quoexl, no more running commentary and chat please
[09:24] <Quoexl> ok I'll shut up
[09:24] <Quoexl> only ontopic for me
[09:24] <cfhowlett> hackvictim look for penetration testing forums/channels
[09:24] <hackvictim> cfhowlett: okay, thank you... is here perhaps an irc channel in freenode for this?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !list
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !alis
[09:25] <hackvictim> Quoexl: honey pot might be a good idea
[09:25] <cfhowlett> hackvictim !alis is the command for searching
[09:25] <hackvictim> searching what?
[09:25] <hackvictim> oh
[09:25] <hackvictim> :D
[09:25] <hackvictim> thank you
[09:25] <histo> hackvictim: I doubt he gained access
[09:25] <hackvictim> but he can read me files, which are in a root directory
[09:25] <hackvictim> :/
[09:26] <hackvictim> but i somehow doubt he "knows or wrote that exploit and just doenst release it because noone else has it" either
[09:26] <Quoexl> hackvictim: answer that ping
[09:26] <arcsky> if a startup script in /etc/init.d/ doesnt start on boot how can i make it autostart ?
[09:27] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> in debian?
[09:27] <hackvictim> um how?
[09:28] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> i dunno
[09:28] <Quoexl> on the left side it says chat Quoexl
[09:28] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> oh
[09:28] <hackvictim> Quoexl: im using webirc (qwebirc) at the moment
[09:28] <histo> arcsky: update-rc.d somescript defaults
[09:28] <Quoexl> well crud
[09:29] <histo> hackvictim: it's along the top
[09:29] <lastarms> Anyone know how to fix the add-apt-repo problem on 12.04 ?
[09:29] <hackvictim> no problem
[09:29] <hackvictim> Quoexl: i get a native client
[09:29] <hackvictim> just a sec
[09:29] <histo> !details | lastarms
[09:29] <histo> hackvictim: look along the top you will see a tab with his name
[09:30] <hackvictim> no tab
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: it's a well known bug in python. The patch has been released for 13.10 but seems like it was never released for 12.04
[09:30] <hackvictim> just that msg: requested CTCP DCC from hackvictim: CHAT chat XXXXXXXXXX XXXX
[09:30] <Quoexl> hackvictim: /join #ubchat
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: the problem is that add-apt-repo will fail due to a python script problem
[09:30] <hackvictim> let me switch to native irc first
[09:30] <hackvictim> :)
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: I was hoping someone here who uses 12.04 for their server will know how to use the patch that someone uploaded on ubuntu bugs
[09:31] <cfhowlett> lastarms ask in the #ubuntu-server channel
[09:31] <lastarms> cfhowlett: didn't know that channel exist. thanx
[09:31] <cfhowlett> lastarms happy2help
[09:32] <hackvitcim_> hi
[09:32] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> oh wb
[09:32] <cfhowlett> hackvitcim_ ubuchat this ain't
[09:47] <histo> hackvitcim_: do you have password based logins enabled for ssh ?
[09:48] <wget> Hi guys. Reminder: I'm a developer and ArchLinux user. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu on my neighbour's laptop (he was previously running ArchLinux too). I've 2 questions:
[09:48] <wget> 1. Since I'm accustomed to use Debian but not Ubuntu. I wanted to know if it was stable enough to make an apt-get dist-upgrade instead of a simple apt-get upgrade on Ubuntu. I assume Ubuntu is slim to don't miss with dependencies? Indeed, after I did that Ubuntu installed me <IP_ADDRESS>, then .24, and reinstalled .29. --> Weird behavior.
[09:48] <wget> 2. I had a crash once and I've dialog "Please report errors to Canonical". I dismissed it, but it appears again at each reboot. Any idea how to get rid of that?
[09:49] <gry> for 2, click 'details' in that dialog and see what details it gives
[09:50] <gry> for 1, 'man apt-get' describes this functionality in a separate paragraph and while it's safe, it doesnt appear to be intended for regular use instead of simple upgrade
[09:51] <ObrienDave> i always use dist-upgrade
[09:51] <gry> !dist-upgrade
[09:51] <gry> this tells some more
[09:52] <gry> they serve different purpose
[09:53] <Vooloo> is there a server manager or something else that can notify me of updates/do the updates when ubuntu needs to upgrade etc. I can't keep logging into multiple servers to check this stuff manually.
[09:54] <gry> Vooloo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html and please keep an eye on it, check root mail or something just in case
[09:54] <gry> well its 10.04, i should find something similar for new
[09:55] <gry> yea https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html exists
[09:57] <blinking> quick question - how to I create a command that I can use with an option, like ./mycommand dothis
[09:59] <mashu> blinking, in python?
[09:59] <blinking> mashu, command line
[10:00] <blinking> just trying to create a script that I can run that will do a few things depending on what option you want
[10:01] <mashu> um ... in the script i think you refer to the arguments as
[10:01] <mashu> $1
[10:01] <mashu> $2
[10:01] <mashu> $3
[10:01] <mashu> depending on the position of the argument
[10:02] <mashu> blinking,
[10:02] <mashu> blinking, that help?
[10:03] <blinking> mashu, not really. I'm using a case statement and it's just not getting the input
[10:03] <mashu> are u using the linux command line?
[10:03] <Ben64> probably would be more appropriate in #bash
[10:03] <blinking> yes
[10:04] <blinking> let me do a quick pastebin
[10:04] <blinking> mashu, Ben64 - pastebin.com/qwCjXwfw
[10:04] <blinking> thats what i'm doing. But its not getting my input
[10:05] <Ben64> yeah, probably best to ask in #bash
[10:05] <kconsul> What is the apt-get command to install skype on ubuntu ?
[10:05] <blinking> ok i'll head over
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, ill link you to something ...
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, hopefully it helps
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, http://it-ebooks.info/book/967/
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, download it and go to page 207
[10:06] <histo> Ben64: he's trying to write an init script to start utorrent server if I remember corrrectly
[10:07] <kconsul> ?
[10:07] <histo> !info skype
[10:07] <gry> it is kidding
[10:07] <histo> !skype | kconsul
[10:08] <kconsul> thank you.
[10:08] <gry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype "Since Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), Skype is part of the Canonical partner repository. "
[10:08] <histo> blinking: I've found other utorrent server startup scripts when I was googling
[10:08] <histo> blinking: http://pastebin.com/UE3kDg00
[10:21] <ilya> is there a status page for apt repos?
[10:22] <errordeveloper> we are seeing some weird segfaults with apt-get update
[10:22] <errordeveloper> removing the chache files doesn't help
[10:22] <errordeveloper> wondering if it's an issue with archive.ubuntu.com...
[10:24] <gry> what error does it say
[10:27] <errordeveloper> gry: just a segfault
[10:27] <Artpicre> Is there some people using Chromium here ?
[10:28] <Artpicre> My problem is that I have the option to save where I was before closing Chromium
[10:29] <Artpicre> All pages that I opened before should re-open next time I open chromium
[10:29] <Artpicre> But the problem is that onlye some of the tabs reopen, and the others are lost
[10:31] <gry> errordeveloper, i sorta cant say anything, if a binary segfaults i would only compile it with -g flag
[10:32] <Wug> errordeveloper: you mean apt-get is segment faulting?
[10:33] <gry> yes
[10:33] <gry> when he does update
[10:33] <Wug> that sounds horrible
[10:33] <Wug> try wgetting the package for apt-get and using dpkg to reinstall it
[10:33] <gry> yes, and then i would run a memtest
[10:34] <Wug> and also a fsck
[10:34] <gry> if both give no result then manually compile
[10:34] <Wug> I'd personally sacrifice the computer and 12 goats to an ebony funeral pyre, so as to prevent its terrible disease from spreading
[10:35] <Wug> but your mileage may vary with that approach
[10:40] <ssyntek> hi all
[10:40] <ssyntek> anyone on here that knows anything about the kernel? in ubuntu?
[10:40] <adm001> hey all
[10:40] <histo> ssyntek: it's sorcery
[10:40] <gry> ssyntek, what is the real question
[10:40] <gry> please :)
[10:40] <adm001> someone help me out with i386 dependencies on a x86_64 ubuntu install?
[10:40] <gry> yes?
[10:41] <ssyntek> i wanted to know if the linux generic kernel is able to be installed with out modification into any linux distro
[10:41] <adm001> I have a fresh install on a x86_64 computer... and when trying install tightvncserver, apt starts about i386 missing dependencies which I can't install...
[10:42] <motaka2> how can I understand where I have installed netbeans ?
[10:43] <adm001> anyone?
[10:43] <adm001> join #xubuntu
[10:44] <lastarms> adm001: try installting tight for x64?
[10:44] <thomaspr> Anyone heard about problems with the latest lucid updates ?
[10:44] <adm001> lastarms... actually I get the problem with everything I try to install... even x11vnc...
[10:45] <ssyntek> does anybody know the answer to my question?
[10:45] <Ben64> adm001: pastebin the error
[10:45] <DigitalACAnalogD> Hi guys, my laptop doesn't seem to detect my CD-ROM drive. How do I check if the relevant drivers are installed?
[10:45] <motaka2> How can Understand where I have installed a software in ubuntu ?
[10:45] <lastarms> adm001: unlike windows, 32bit application will not work with 64 bit
[10:45] <lastarms> adm001: since you now have 64bit OS, you need to look for and install 64 bit software
[10:45] <Ben64> ssyntek: thats not really an ubuntu support question
[10:46] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - check /usr/bin
[10:46] <lastarms> adm001: try doing sudo apt-get install tightvnc or something
[10:46] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: I have intalled netbeans, I dont know where, now I want to delete it I dont know where the uninstall file is , I used .sh installer
[10:47] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - a .sh installer is a shell script.. if you know what you're doing, you can simply remove all the files and directoris created by the shell script
[10:48] <adm001> lastarms http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622891/
[10:48] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: but right now I really cant remebr where I installed netbeans8, it's icon is on sidebar but I dont know where i istalled it
[10:49] <thomaspr> Doesn't "netbeans" come via universe anyway ?
[10:49] <Ben64> adm001: why are you trying to install the 32 bit version of that?
[10:49] <adm001> lastarms I came from a not clean ubuntu install... and because it's the companies server... it's had be redone... it all worked on the none-clean install... and now it just doesn't...
[10:49] <motaka2> thomaspr: I didnt use universe i downloaded it from netbeans.org
[10:49] <adm001> Ben64: the thing is... I'm not...
[10:50] <Ben64> you are. look at what you pasted. "tightvncserver:i386"
[10:50] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - it'll most likely be in /usr/bin . I suggest you uninstall it via a package manager, or another piece of software. Alternatively, like I said, open the .sh file in gedit, and replace the mk/cpy commands with the rm/rmdir commands.
[10:50] <lastarms> adm001: try this command  sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[10:50] <blinking> whats the best way to add something to start up? update-rc.d myscript defaults 100 ??
[10:50] <lastarms> blinking: cron
[10:50] <adm001> Ben64 & lastarms... I did type apt-get install tightvncserver...
[10:50] <adm001> that's the whole problem...
[10:51] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: common man.
[10:51] <lastarms> adm001: hrmmm...
[10:51] <jj-> helloo helloo i have windows 7 installed and i see there is a windows boot manager boot device in bios. will it still exist when i isntall ubuntu or what happens?
[10:52] <jj-> i don't want to see the grub boot screen if the installation fails
[10:52] <adm001> lastarms: I know... it got me scratching my head too... I know my way around Linux and all now after quite some years but this thing is new...
[10:52] <jj-> would be convenient to boot directly to the windows boot manager
[10:52] <jj-> how does it work nowadatys
[10:52] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - No. YOU come on man. It took me <1s to find this on Google: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76908/how-to-uninstall-netbeans
[10:52] <Ben64> adm001: pastebin "sudo apt-get update"
[10:52] <lastarms> adm001: apt-get is grabbing 32bit files...
[10:53] <adm001> lastarms: I figured...
[10:53] <jj-> man i swear it's so zz with the new power saving stuff and 3g modem sticks what the fuck ever they are called
[10:53] <jj-> ubuntu back to 2008 or something
[10:54] <adm001> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622933/
[10:54] <ssyntek> Ben64 where do i go then to find this answer?
[10:54] <Ben64> jj-: watch the language in this channel please
[10:54] <jj-> :-(
[10:55] <ssyntek> Ben64 where do i go to find the answer?
[10:55] <lastarms> adm001: your sources.list file seems corrupt
[10:55] <ObrienDave> adm001, do you REALLY need ia32-libs?
[10:55] <adm001> lastarms: so much for a clean install...
[10:55] <ssyntek> sorry delayed post and i reposted as i thought it didnt go through my bad
[10:56] <adm001> ObrienDave: honestly I don't know... it worked on the earlier install.,. without it
[10:56] <adm001> pastebin?
[10:56] <lastarms> adm001: haha, I've never seen i386 sources on an amd64 install
[10:56] <Ben64> lastarms: no thats fine
[10:56] <ObrienDave> ok, if you do, i'll tell you how to install, but the mods will get angry ;P
[10:57] <Ben64> ObrienDave: don't do it, thats not the problem here
[10:57] <adm001> so how can I fix this without reinstalling...
[10:57] <Sm21> hello i have a question
[10:57] <Sm21> WTF is unity? its crap
[10:57] <motaka2> I hate JDK
[10:57] <motaka2> it was alway troublesome
[10:57] <Ben64> adm001: i'm looking for an answer for you
[10:57] <jj-> Sm21: cmon man it's alright
[10:58] <trash> hi, what is the prefered way to install ubuntu-12 in a unatanted way like kickstart in centos without having a huge framework with dependancy services configured?
[10:58] <adm001> kk Ben64 thx
[10:58] <Ben64> Sm21: do you have a support question? this channel is not for rants
[10:58] <Sm21> its alright if your a fanboy
[10:58] <Sm21> sorry ill stop
[10:58] <jj-> nah it's alright for productivity and doesn't have too many annoyances
[10:59] <adm001> Sm21 I think everyone used whatever he/she likes... and that's a good... if we'd all be using the same it'll get boring..
[10:59] <Quoexl> ok boys and girls, I got a chinese hacker knocking on my ssh
[10:59] <Quoexl> any help?
[11:00] <Sm21> Yes, Quoexl just remember their driving my be poor
[11:00] <Quoexl> he's trying to use john on my 26 digit ssh password
[11:00] <adm001> lol
[11:00] <ObrienDave> ben64, hence the "mods will get angry" disclamer ;)
[11:00] <loa> Quoexl, give him some rise.
[11:01] <Quoexl> I'm thinking of locking him in a busybox
[11:01] <Ben64> ObrienDave: no.. it won't help
[11:01] <loa> sandbox you mean)
[11:01] <adm001> Quoexl I'd say, give it a go
[11:01] <Sm21> ping him
[11:01] <loa> honeypot
[11:01] <Sm21> or give him a net send
[11:01] <Quoexl> no, busybox locked off from the real OS
[11:01] <Sm21> that is what mark shuttleworth would do
[11:01] <Quoexl> you know, fakeroot etc
[11:02] <loa> Quoexl, busybox it is just alternative for bash tools.
[11:02] <loa> lightweight alternative.
[11:02] <popey> Sm21: keep your ramblings to other channels, this is a support channel
[11:02] <ssyntek> Quoexl can i ask a silly question how do you know hes there ?
[11:02] <Ben64> please stay on topic
[11:02] <ssyntek> just so i can learn  :)
[11:02] <Ben64> adm001: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say
[11:03] <adm001> Ben64 amd64
[11:03] <gaingg_> Hi all
[11:04] <gaingg_> Can i start text mode installation from a desktop installation cd?
[11:04] <Quoexl> failed password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> over and over and over
[11:04] <popey> gaingg_: no
[11:04] <Quoexl> in auth.log
[11:04] <loa> Quoexl, install sshguard
[11:04] <loa> or failtoban
[11:05] <gaingg_> Popey: thanks
[11:05] <histo> gaingg_: no you ahve to use net install iso or the server iso
[11:05] <Quoexl> thanks and what kind of configuration shall I do?
[11:05] <Quoexl> I know jfgi
[11:05] <adm001> Quoexl: how can you be sure if he's in china? If he/she is a true hacker... proxy's...
[11:06] <Quoexl> because a true hacker would rotate proxies and I was in a chat room with this schmuck and its the same IP
[11:06] <dimm> hello, All!
[11:06] <jj-> i see there is a windows boot manager in boot devices. if ubuntu installation fails can i directly boot to it without seeing the damned grub boot screen?
[11:06] <Ben64> adm001: try "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver:amd64"
[11:07] <dimm> what it can be?   i kill process via 'kill -9' but it respawn after one second with new pid
[11:07] <adm001> Ben64: he cannot find the pacakage
[11:07] <gaingg_> Kthxbai
[11:07] <Quoexl> and I geolocated him then, and again now, same university that he told me he was attending
[11:07] <histo> dimm: it's set to respawn
[11:07] <Ben64> adm001: well that's a problem
[11:07] <histo> dimm: what are you trying to kill?
[11:07] <loa> dimm, depends on what proccess you trying to kill)
[11:07] <adm001> I though so too...
[11:07] <dimm> histo: where i can found this setting?
[11:07] <adm001> *thought
[11:07] <loa> their can be upstart job, which respawn proccess.
[11:08] <dimm> loa: i see this with zabbix_server, and mysqld
[11:08] <loa> that't right for them.
[11:08] <histo> dimm: try sudo stop mysqld
[11:08] <Ben64> adm001: so it seems it's trying to install the 32bit version because it can't find the 64 one, but you have the repositories enabled so i'm not sure where to go from here. maybe rebuild your sources using a different mirror? or the main ubuntu one?
[11:08] <adm001> Ben64: let's give it a go..
[11:09] <histo> dimm: also try stop zabbi<tab>  key to auto complete
[11:09] <Ben64> adm001: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ to make a new sources.list
[11:12] <adm001> Ben64 updating the sources.list...
[11:12] <adm001> Ben64 still a no go...
[11:13] <Ben64> you may need universe or multiverse to get it
[11:13] <adm001> it's added
[11:13] <Ben64> did you try the united states mirror?
[11:13] <Sm21> Has anyone heard of lorde?
[11:13] <Ben64> and you need to "sudo apt-get update" for it to take effect
[11:13] <Ben64> Sm21: off topic
[11:13] <adm001> ben64 did the update thing
[11:13] <motaka2> Can anyone please download netbeans8 with jdk and put it on dropbox so I can download it ?
[11:13] <flux242> hi, does someone know why bluetooth (ath3k, btusb) modules are started? I can't seem to able to find any service record responsible for loading of these modules
[11:15] <histo> motaka2: is there a problem with apt-get install netbeans ?
[11:15] <motaka2> histo: It is closed to my country. And all the proxies I use disconnect on mid way
[11:15] <histo> flux242: ath3k sounds like a atheros library and bt is for bluetooth
[11:15] <adm001> Ben64... I tried the UK repositories and they're working
[11:16] <Ben64> adm001: interesting
[11:16] <adm001> Ben64: thk u very much!
[11:16] <histo> motaka2: change your universe mirror to like us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <flux242> histo: I know what these libraries are, the question is what loads them?
[11:16] <histo> flux242: when the hardware gets detected
[11:17] <motaka2> histo: I did it is the same
[11:17] <dimm> histo, loa ,    is 'stop' it is command for stop jobs which can be showed via 'jobs' command?
[11:17] <histo> dimm: what?
[11:17] <histo> dimm: no it's for initctl
[11:18] <flux242> histo: ok, then the question is - is there a cleaner way to skip loading these modules beside blacklisting them?
[11:18] <histo> flux242: Do you want them to load later in the boot process or not at all?
[11:19] <dimm> histo: thank you for information
[11:19] <flux242> histo: If I need a bt it should be possible to activate it on demand without restarting
[11:19] <histo> flux242: you could modprobe btusb
[11:19] <etronik> rehi all
[11:19] <histo> flux242: the same for ath3k
[11:20] <flux242> ok
[11:21] <histo> flux242: is there a reason you want them gone?
[11:21] <flux242> power saving
[11:21] <flux242> to many wakeups
[11:21] <adm001> Ben64: thx, now I can continue getting it back in the air...
[11:21] <histo> flux242: ahh
[11:21] <etronik> I have created a user account for a /home/user folder that was already there from a previous install of Ubuntu, but when  I attempt to login the screen blanks/flickers and I get thrown back to login screen (GDM right?) - how can I reset video propertiers for that user ?
[11:21] <Ben64> adm001: no problem
[11:21] <histo> flux242: yeah just blacklist them modprobe if you need them loaded
[11:22] <etronik> That prior user was running video at a higher resolution and with native Nvidia driver - which is not the case in current install... so I need probably to get his config back to basics
[11:22] <histo> etronik: they shouldn't be set per user. Perhaps something is trying to autostart like from .xinitrc or .config/...autostart etc... that is causing you desktop environment to crash
[11:23] <etronik> histo: yeah might be that...
[11:23] <etronik> will strat by .xinit
[11:24] <tolearn> hi everyone
[11:24] <YamakasY> anyone experience with autocomplete bash with ldap login ? I don't have autocomplete :S
[11:24] <histo> YamakasY: install bash-completion
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: isn't that default ?
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: for root it works on the machine
[11:25] <etronik> I have a lot of stuff under .config/ - short of zapping the whole thing, whats the best way to get it temporarily to a basic config ?
[11:25] <histo> YamakasY: who does it not work for and where?
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: for a user that logs in using ldap auth
[11:26] <YamakasY> histo: it has a homefolder but is no local user
[11:26] <histo> etronik: pretty much zapping the hidden directories are the only way. you could look in /etc/skel/  and see what's supposed to be there.
[11:26] <histo> YamakasY: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[11:27] <Signorombra> hi
[11:27] <etronik> can I just mv .config to .config_old  ?? will ubuntu create a new .config ?
[11:27] <etronik> can I just mv .config to .config_old  ?? will ubuntu create a new .config/ ?
[11:27] <histo> YamakasY: i'd imagine it's something with their environment not being setup properly but those guys may know the exact problem.
[11:27] <histo> etronik: yes
[11:27] <cfhowlett> etronik rename, reboot and yes
[11:27] <etronik> thanks will try
[11:29] <YamakasY> histo: those guys ? I't my server :D
[11:29] <YamakasY> *it's :)
 i have a problem on xubuntu that when i go on terminal it says it is untrusted
[11:29] <usekkk> Does anyone know of a good crawler for archiving webpages?
[11:30] <ObrienDave> google?
[11:30] <usekkk> Something like https://www.npmjs.org/package/upstage
[11:30] <YamakasY> histo: so, what do I need to check ? I have a .bashrc for that user
[11:31] <ssyntek> hi im a bit stuck removing nvidia drivers from ubuntu 14.04
[11:31] <Signorombra> hi
[11:31] <ssyntek> when i type purge nvidia* says there are no packages to upgrade install or remove
[11:32] <Signorombra> i have a problem with opening stuff
[11:32] <etronik> histo: after renaming .config/ still flickers and cannot login to the session, I also removed older .Xauthority
[11:32] <etronik> histo: what else should I look for besides .config/
[11:32] <etronik> histo: what else should I look for besides .config/  ? TIA
[11:32] <histo> usekkk: wget
[11:33] <Signorombra> what happened was that i open something up and it opens up loads of the same window
[11:33] <usekkk> histo: wget goes too deep for me. I want to download all images/css/js that are in use on one page and thats it
[11:33] <Signorombra> it says it is untrusted
[11:34] <histo> etronik: any .?? directories
[11:35] <histo> etronik: find ~ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name '.*'
[11:37] <user4124> Does trustys calendar integrate with evolution calendar? top bar
[11:37] <etronik> histo: .dbus .cache .compiz .mozilla .local .gconf .config  (I wonder about the last one)
[11:38] <jj-> usekkk: don't use -r in wget?
[11:38] <jj-> wget is perfectly good for it
[11:38] <usekkk> jj-: without -r it doesn't download any images
[11:38] <jj-> usekkk: see --page-requisites
[11:39] <jj-> or -p if you will
[11:39] <jj-> anyways wget can do it np you just have to use correct opts
[11:39] <wget> usekkk: Maybe ask on #wget would be a better solution than asking here.
[11:40] <jj-> man wget is the right solution alongside with -p
[11:40] <user4124> how to get Unity integrated with ownCloud?
[11:40] <usekkk> jj-: alright, thanks, I'll give it a go
[11:40] <usekkk> wget: I'll check #wget out
[11:41] <wget> usekkk: Thanks, otherwise I'm getting always notifications because you're speaking about wget ;-)
[11:41] <etronik> histo: and I wonder why your commend did not catch .xchat or .vuescan
[11:41] <thomaspr> Kernel specialists inside ?
[11:42] <etronik> just as examples
[11:42] <histo> etronik: because they are files not directories
[11:43] <thomaspr> Any known problems with the latest kernels for lucid ?
[11:43] <cfhowlett> |!lucithomaspr
[11:43] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[11:43] <cfhowlett> thomaspr if you're on desktop you are completely unsupported and end of life
[11:44] <thomaspr> It's a server, but my question's about the GUI
[11:44] <cfhowlett> thomaspr gui?  server?  huh?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !server|thomaspr
[11:45] <thomaspr> It's our oldest one, but still needed :-|
[11:45] <thomaspr> Time by time colleagues want to log in tty7
[11:46] <thomaspr> Since latest upgrades, the whole window management seems defunct :-( ???
[11:47] <thomaspr> Noone running lucid anymore ?
[11:48] <lamrz> hello, I created a dd image of a hard drive. therefore is it ok to keep using the hard drive now ( I need disk space), being sure of that I will not lose its dd image or it will not be distorted in any way (unless, of course, the hardware on which it is saved fails) ?
[11:49] <lamrz> I mean whether the dd image will not be distorted in any way
[11:49] <Quoexl> theoretically it should be fine
[11:49] <Quoexl> unless theres a tsunami or house fire
[11:50] <lamrz> Quoexl, I see..so statistically the dd images are reliably durable, then.
[11:50] <motasem> barr7awi
[11:51] <humbag> you image the drive from a live distro? lamrz
[11:53] <glambert> any way of getting package information prior to apt-get install?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> glambert apt-cache search packagename or apt-cache policy packagename   will give you some feedback
[12:01] <Steelpan> #glambert: `apt-cache show <package>` will also give you useful info
[12:01] <glambert> Steelpan, perfect, thanks!   thanks cfhowlett
[12:02] <cfhowlett> glambert happy2help
[12:02] <wget> (11:51:47 AM) gry: !dist-upgrade
[12:02] <wget> I know the difference between dist-upgrade and a simple upgrade, that's not the question. The question is updating this way stable on Ubuntu?
[12:02] <wget> e.g. if unity relies on a lib 1.X and I've an app that relies on that same lib. An update is available for that app. The new version require version 2.X of that lib + another one. An apt-get upgrade won't update that app because it has a new dependency. If I do a dist-upgrade my app will be upgraded and the lib will be upgraded to 2.X and the other dependency will be installed. All these upgrades could break unity dependencies and Ubuntu will complain.
[12:02] <wget> ObrienDave: ^
[12:03] <ObrienDave> i always use dist-upgrade
[12:03] <wget> ObrienDave: No problem on your side?
[12:03] <ObrienDave> nope, i run Xubuntu
[12:04] <wget> ObrienDave: Ok. :D My neightbour uses Ubuntu (Unity version)
[12:04] <lamrz> Quoexl, humbag, I was disconnected, sorry if you posted for me meanwhile..
[12:05] <lamrz> humbag, I'd imaged it from live distro, yes