[00:00] <freaky[t]> does my pc become much slower when I install ubuntu with encrypted partitions?
[00:02] <dima18> hello
[00:10] <jr> can anyone see this ?
[00:16] <dylan_> can someone help me with something?
[00:18] <dylan_> i'll just ask, everytime i log on i have to set my /etc/resolv.conf file back to open dns over and over again and its annoying
[00:18] <Ev0luti0n_> can't help u
[00:18] <dylan_> so i want to know to set the file so that my computer doesnt reset it every time i log off
[00:18] <Ev0luti0n_> sry
[00:18] <dylan_> damnit
[00:21] <Ev0luti0n_> dylan_: wait a bit
[00:21] <Ev0luti0n_> maybe someone else can help
[00:21] <xvaconx> hi
[00:23] <jamesjedimaster> dylan_: maybe you have dhcp, so you have to modify /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf
[00:25] <n3m0> terrrriiiiible
[00:36] <jepong> hello... anyone tried ubuntu-boot/ppa on kubuntu karmic?
[00:36] <jepong> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-boot
[00:36] <jepong> sorry... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-boot/+archive/ppa
[00:39] <DasKreeCh> hi jepong
[01:08] <SunlessHalo> yo
[01:09] <SunlessHalo> please, I'd like to know how could i convert flv or mp4 files to MP3 audio layer so that i can preserve/set up high quality sound
[01:18] <johnjohn101> can anyone help get snow effects in compiz?
[01:20] <giz> SunlessHalo: Google is your friend
[01:20] <SunlessHalo> giz: most of googled stuff didn't work for me
[01:21] <SunlessHalo> well, in case I'd like to avoid using bash...
[01:22] <giz> ok, good luck then
[01:37] <skip> Hello everyone!  Does anyone know how to enable the dolby digital sound modes?  I have Realtek HD integrated sound.
[01:38] <BerytoDelRio> #manila
[01:40] <jepong> hello... anyone tried ubuntu-boot/ppa on kubuntu karmic?
[01:40] <jepong> sorry... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-boot/+archive/ppa
[01:45] <godlike> hi
[01:45] <godlike> any good partitioning tool for ku?
[01:45] <Roey> hi
[01:46] <Roey> Hello... when I run Skype, my digital spdif output signal dies.  Why so?
[01:46] <godlike> i need to transfer free space from my second linux system
[01:46] <BerytoDelRio> i just use partition manager
[01:46] <godlike> i have to download it?
[01:46] <godlike> gparted?
[01:47] <godlike> ????????/
[01:47] <johnjohn101> how do I get snow on my compiz in 9.10?
[01:48] <skip> Does anyone know how to enable surround sound on a Realtek HD integrated sound chip?
[01:48] <BerytoDelRio> john just go to the system settings.. then go to the effects part.. you'll find it there
[01:49] <lorecaster> Here i am again, NFS errors, when i try to open two shares through my guest computer, one folder works, the other folder does not. Both are on the same host, and "sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/host/path /guest/path" works for ONE and not the other... both are chmod'd to 777, and sharing is emabled
[01:49] <DasKreeCh> godlike: Gparted is nice
[01:50] <godlike> partitionmanager or gparted
[01:50] <godlike> is better?
[01:50] <johnjohn101> berytodelrio sorry I'm using ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:50] <trancex>  my panel change automically right to left / left to right after every restart/shutdown . i tired after fresh install and try update kde to 4.3.3 , what to do ? thanks
[01:50] <godlike> more functions less bugs more stable
[01:50] <godlike> ?
[01:50] <BerytoDelRio> ok
[01:51] <skip> Does anyone know how to enable surround sound on a Realtek HD integrated sound chip?  I am using Ubuntu 9.10
[01:51] <godlike> gparted or partitionmanager?
[01:52] <godlike> fu
[01:52] <lorecaster> godlike: i happen to use gparted, and have no reason to desire another product :)
[01:52] <lorecaster> BTW... that's not an advised means of getting help
[01:53] <godlike> what means?
[01:53] <lorecaster> "<godlike> fu"
[01:53] <trancex>  my panel change automically right to left / left to right after every restart/shutdown . i tired after fresh install and try update kde to 4.3.3 , what to do ? thanks
[01:53] <godlike> fu is a chinish gesture meaning thanks...
[01:54] <lorecaster> chinish?!
[01:54] <godlike> chinese
[01:54] <skip> Does anyone know how to enable surround sound on a Realtek HD integrated sound chip?
[01:54] <godlike> it means luck in traditional translation
[01:55] <lorecaster> understanding that not everyone would get the reference... and saying "fu" in an open chat could mean something completely different, especially since you were not answered right away. just a caution.
[01:55] <lorecaster> but that's my opinion, gparted is a great prog
[01:56] <godlike> fu my friend
[01:56] <trancex> godlike and lorecaster i have idea ,
[01:56] <trancex> shut up .
[01:56] <lorecaster> now, godlike, that is an example of unnecessary rudeness, the same thing that i had mistaken you for making. :)
[01:57] <godlike> yes indeed
[01:57] <lorecaster> thank you, trancex, for pin-pointing my perspective.
[01:57] <lorecaster> it's my hope that the Gods of karma will exact their will,... and i may have my NFS woes cleared away ;)
[01:58] <godlike> lorecaster: do you have any idea why i can install a new linux distro side by side to my old (have a dual boot) without deleting my whole disk, as happens in windows?
[01:59] <lorecaster> it's an option on the disk.
[01:59] <szal> godlike: you can also install a Linux distro alongside Windblows w/o destroying data
[01:59] <godlike> is this cause of the linux, or of a tool like partition manager
[01:59] <godlike> so its a tool
[01:59] <lorecaster> during the install process, as you enter the area for partition managemnt... when you throw in the install disk and reboot...
[02:00] <godlike> why cant this be done with windows, and it takes over the entire hard disk?
[02:00] <lorecaster> begin the install, it'll give you three options... install in remaining space, install side-by-side, or use whole disk (destroy data on disk)
[02:00] <lorecaster> because windows is the devil.
[02:00] <godlike> hahaha
[02:00] <szal> of course if you use automagic partitioning and have no clue what the partitioner does, you might end up w/ quite a surprise..
[02:00] <godlike> it cant be done but you have to divide the disk from the start
[02:00] <lorecaster> -shivers- been there
[02:01] <lorecaster> painful memories, szal
[02:01] <lorecaster> :P
[02:01] <szal> if you know your way around partitioning & prepare the disk beforehand, there's no surprises
[02:01] <szal> except for PEBKAC, that is :P
[02:01] <lorecaster> in the case of computer tech... there is ALWAYS room for surprises. :P
[02:02] <bamboo> hi guys
[02:03] <szal> lorecaster: well, after all it's not black magic ;)
[02:03] <lorecaster> no, no, that's scary shit. i'm a wiccan high priest.
[02:03] <lorecaster> i've known necromancers... those creeps used windows too :o CORRELATION!
[02:04] <godlike> how can i resize my space for root?
[02:04] <szal> godlike: use a live CD
[02:04] <godlike> ok
[02:04] <lorecaster> I have a linux partition magic boot-CD... it works very well. but the boot-CD also has a partion magic option
[02:06] <BerytoDelRio> there are a couple of freely downloadable partition software that you could use in windows.. you could have just resized your windows partition before installing linux
[02:06] <godlike> guys kubuntu is nice
[02:06] <godlike> but fedora is more ahead
[02:06] <godlike> in most stuff
[02:06] <godlike> i will migrate
[02:06] <lorecaster> i prefer ubuntu gnome... it's much faster-running
[02:06] <luis_> I don't understand  kbluetooth micro icon is in gray and doesn't start or let me configure it, i wanna pass some files, I need help guys I wanna use my Laptop Bluetooth
[02:07] <luis_> don't understand why*
[02:07] <lorecaster> never had experience there luis_, sorry.
[02:07] <luis_> someone more?
[02:08] <BerytoDelRio> mine works fine... but then again.. im not on a laptop..
[02:08] <lorecaster> i've got a MONSTER workstation (quad-core, 8gb ram, 2tb drive) and windows just couldn't handle it... i want to squeeze every iota of power out of it... gnome karmic koala is smexy
[02:08] <lorecaster> laptops often have proprietary drivers though.
[02:09] <trancex> you call to your computer monster ? lol
[02:09] <trancex> WOW quad core
[02:09] <lorecaster> it's the mightiest machine i've ever played with.
[02:09] <lorecaster> forgive us poor backwater newfies ;)
[02:10] <trancex> i have i7 , 1.5TB , 12 GB RAM DDR3 Triple  Channel and SLI GTX260 So ?
[02:10] <lorecaster> not the norm
[02:10] <lorecaster> nor is mine. :) we both break the curve ;)
[02:10] <godlike> i read somewhere that there is a project timelord to make kde with kubuntu work better
[02:10] <lorecaster> i could not financially support 12gb ram, though i wish i could have
[02:10] <godlike> or integrate it or something like this
[02:12] <godlike> so
[02:12] <godlike> do they optimize kde?
[02:16] <trancex> hey sucker
[02:16] <godlike> trancex: fu and i dont mean luck
[02:17] <lorecaster> relax godlike... the longer you remain relaxed in the face of ignorance, the longer you retain the moral high-ground :)
[02:17] <lorecaster> it's the wiccan-way
[02:18] <godlike> we can?
[02:18] <lorecaster> remaining the picture of calm does two things, godlike, it both allows you to think rationally while the other person is upset... it also upsets them further. delicous!
[02:19] <godlike> what if i dont want them to be more upset?
[02:19] <luis_> I don't understand why kbluetooth micro icon is in gray and doesn't start or let me configure it, I wanna pass some files, I need help guys I wanna use my Laptop Bluetooth
[02:19] <luis_> there is not another IRC channel than can help me with my problem?
[02:20] <BerytoDelRio> luis.. since you are using a laptop.. have you tried pressing the fn+bluetooth keys.. maybe its not turned on.. your supposed to have that light to signify that your bluetooth is on right
[02:20] <lorecaster> i've been trying to get NFS help for about a week... to no avail. sometimes, free help is not always easy to find :( hang in there though! you're (mostly) among friends.
[02:21] <r00t_ninja> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[02:22] <lorecaster> r00t_ninja: been there, tried that. got that one bookmarked actually... i have two folders, with same permissions level, both set to sharing rw, one can mount, the other times out.
[02:22] <Roey> Hello... when I run Skype, my digital spdif output signal dies.  Why so?
[02:22] <lorecaster> nothing in the page for THAT :P
[02:24] <szal> lorecaster: did you double-check for typos?
[02:24] <lorecaster> i cnp'd where i could, nothing seemed to work.
[02:24] <lorecaster> like i said, been at it for a week
[02:27] <szal> isn't use of NFS in general discouraged due to unresolved bugs or something?
[02:27] <Werenerd> I am looking for the way to re-enable the ctrl+alt+backspace in Kubuntu, but all I can find on google is the Ubuntu instructions.
[02:28] <lorecaster> samba is no better. is there a third alternative?
[02:28] <BerytoDelRio> luis were you able to get it working now?
[02:28] <Werenerd> lorecaster: what problems are you having with Samba?
[02:28] <maple1> fuck kubuntu
[02:28] <tsimpson> !dontzap | Werenerd
[02:28] <lorecaster> inapproprate language, if i may say so, maple1
[02:29] <lorecaster> DELL, the client, could see DESKTOP, the host, but could not log-on... i was suggested NFS because my problems just snowballed with Samba
[02:29] <tsimpson> maple1: watch your language here
[02:29] <lorecaster> and no one would ever help me with it.
[02:29] <lorecaster> this is a kubuntu room, maple1, perhaps you should take your grievances elsewhere?
[02:30] <Werenerd> alt+sysrq+k is a new one on me. never heard that one before.
[02:30] <Werenerd> dontzap is still used? I thought that was only for 9.04
[02:31] <tsimpson> alt+sysrq+k kills everything running on the VT
[02:31] <maple1> I love kubuntu
[02:32] <Werenerd> hmmm, I cannot find " dontzap " in the repo.
[02:32] <lorecaster> Werenerd: interested in helping me sort out my samba woes?
[02:33] <szal> lorecaster: what now?  Samba or NFS?
[02:33] <lorecaster> sorry, lost that message,
[02:34] <lorecaster> was i being addressed before i left and returned?
[02:34] <Werenerd> lorecaster: What are your woes? I have never had any problems with Samba, so I don't have much troubleshooting expierence.
[02:34] <szal> [03:33:00]             <szal> lorecaster: what now?  Samba or NFS?
[02:34] <lorecaster> it was permissions errors... and yeah, i'm curious, if there is a third option between samba and NFS
[02:35] <Werenerd> lorecaster: Permission errors, I had a few of those. Were files that were uploaded to a share not inheriting parent permissions?
[02:36] <lorecaster> wasn't sure at the time... i made /home/lorecaster/Desktop a share with RW and i made /media/STORAGE a share with rw
[02:37] <lorecaster> using samba, i could SEE the computer (also called desktop) but could not access it. said i did not have permissions... so i moved onto NFS
[02:37] <tsimpson> sshfs ftw
[02:38] <Werenerd> What were the OS'es of both machines. They only time I had that problem was with a windows machine
[02:38] <lorecaster> DESKTOP was ubuntu 9.10, while the client was windows XP... they're both ubuntu now
[02:39] <Werenerd> that sounds about right. Since they are both *buntu, you haven't had that same problem have you?
[02:39] <lorecaster> haven't used samba since
[02:39] <lorecaster> think i should?
[02:40] <Werenerd> tsimpson: that dontzap blurb is wrong. Do we need to tell someone? I found it finally
[02:40] <tsimpson> Werenerd: what's wrong with it?
[02:40] <Werenerd> lorecaster: oh yeah. It is so dead simple now. wait... you said Ubuntu not Kubuntu, right?
[02:40] <lorecaster> gnome, true
[02:41] <Werenerd> tsimpson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[02:41] <Werenerd> tsimpson: it is now an option under keyboard layouts
[02:42] <lorecaster> on DELL (client) went into places and network (network:///)
[02:42] <Werenerd> lorecaster: I only have experience with KDE, but it has to be similar. All I do is make sure I have all the Samba stuff installed. Right click on the folders I want to share, and pick the options I want from the fancy GUI.
[02:42] <lorecaster> then into DESKTOP (server)
[02:42] <lorecaster> in smb://desktop/ i see deskto
[02:42] <lorecaster> desktop and storage
[02:42] <lorecaster> desktop opens fine, storage gives me an error
[02:42] <Werenerd> lorecaster: that sounds right
[02:42] <Werenerd> where is the STORAGE/
[02:42] <Werenerd> ?
[02:42] <tsimpson> Werenerd: I'll get it fixed
[02:42] <lorecaster> unable to mount location, failed to mount windows share
[02:43] <lorecaster> storage is moutned at /media/STORAGE
[02:43] <lorecaster> on the server
[02:43] <lorecaster> it's not a windows share
[02:43] <Werenerd> tsimpson: thanks.
[02:43] <Werenerd> well, Samba is a windows share "technically"
[02:44] <Werenerd> So DESKTOP & STORAGE on on the same computer, just different folders?
[02:44] <szal> lorecaster: did you chown /media/STORAGE to your user?
[02:44] <lorecaster> STORAGE is an entire 1.5gb disk... mounted at /media/STORAGE
[02:44] <lorecaster> yes
[02:44] <Werenerd> szal: darn it, I was building up to that!
[02:44] <lorecaster> users are identical... same UN and same PW... both have chmod 777
[02:46] <lorecaster> haven't chown'd the files... command-string if you please?
[02:47] <Werenerd> lorecaster: you using Nautilus?
[02:47] <lorecaster> I would assume so... it's the default for gnome karmic koala, yes?
[02:47] <trancex> plasma=panel ?
[02:47] <Werenerd> yes, but a lot of people really like pcfileman
[02:47] <Werenerd> it is what I used on GNOME 2 years ago.
[02:47] <lorecaster> i am using the default. have had no rason to change
[02:48] <szal> lorecaster: when your stuff is mounted to /media/STORAGE -> chown -R yourUser:users /media/STORAGE
[02:48] <lorecaster> :| this is a FULL 1.5tb drive here... 8gb free
[02:49] <Werenerd> just out of curiosity, instead of smb://server/share try smb://username@server/share
[02:49] <lorecaster> :| that worked!
[02:50] <Werenerd> lorecaster: which thing? Mine or szal
[02:51] <lorecaster> szal worked fine
[02:51] <lorecaster> but it could have been a combination
[02:52] <Werenerd> OK then, then it was a permission based error and not a bug in nautilus. If szal's solution worked, it was most likely not chmod 777
[02:52] <lorecaster> back in a second
[02:52] <Werenerd> Maybe you didn't use the recursive option?
[02:52] <lorecaster> perhaps not... but it works fine now
[02:53] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me get nfs-kernel-server started?   :D
[02:53] <lorecaster> back shortly
[02:54] <Werenerd> szal, that is pretty close to the root of my nick name. Back when I was a blackbox user, alot of the guys on the #bb4win were very socially inept. I had a lot of social engagements at the time and actually do well with people
[02:54] <Werenerd> They said I was like a werewolf, but a nerd. So werenerd I was thusly named
[02:55] <szal> heheh
[02:55] <Werenerd> I Plus they didn't like my other handle, BigDaddy.  Now all is better.
[03:07] <lorecaster> Werenerd: know how i can split a 22" wide screen into 2 regions?
[03:08] <Werenerd> you mean like two desktops on one screen?
[03:08] <lorecaster> yeah
[03:08] <Werenerd> never thought of trying that
[03:08] <Werenerd> never heard of anyone thinking of trying that either.
[03:09] <lorecaster> :P
[03:09] <lorecaster> i have 2 monitors... i want to split my 22" wide screen into two square monitors :P
[03:09] <Werenerd> What would be the application of this?
[03:09] <Werenerd> so you can simulate roughly a 3 monitor setup?
[03:09] <lorecaster> so i can effectively maximize and multitask to new levels... to run 'fullscreen' applications in half a screen
[03:09] <lorecaster> exactly :)
[03:10] <Werenerd> you do realize that 16:9/2 does not equal 4:3
[03:10] <lorecaster> 8/9 i realize... nearly square
[03:12] <Werenerd> ewww... this has been done before. It required nesting x servers. ewww
[03:13] <lorecaster> the first ewww sold me :P
[03:13] <lorecaster> i'll pass then
[03:13] <Werenerd> what kind of fullscreen apps?
[03:13] <Roey> hey all... why does my SD card suddenly not identify teh filesystem when I use 'mount'??
[03:13] <Roey> Also,  when I run Skype, my digital spdif output signal dies.  Why so?
[03:13] <lorecaster> wine and dosbox games :D for example
[03:15] <Werenerd> Well with wine, you can set up the virtual desktop to be eactly half the screen and then manually size the other window
[03:16] <Werenerd> not exactly what you wanted, but it would work. The wine app would be in fullscreen mode
[03:17] <lorecaster> interestink
[03:17] <Werenerd> does anyone here run a FTP server?
[03:18] <lorecaster> i do
[03:18] <lorecaster> :)
[03:18] <lorecaster> ftp.zero-impact.ca
[03:18] <lorecaster> what can i do ya for? you['ve been so very helpful for me
[03:18] <Werenerd> What server do you run? ProFTP?
[03:18] <lorecaster> incidentally, i'm looking for a webmaster to build some webpages, insuch a way as i can maintain them... any takers, e-mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:D
[03:19] <lorecaster> it's a linux based server from www.justhost.com :D not sure what THEY run, but any FTP client can attach to it. unlimited space and bandwidth... what do you need Werenerd?
[03:20] <Werenerd> I have run ProFTP server for my family to grab picures, videos and just about anything they wanted from me. But the GUI frontend for ProFTP just isn't that great. I was hoping for something like Filezilla server for linux. Just no luck finding it
[03:21] <lorecaster> i used to use filezilla for linux... should be right in the repositories
[03:21] <lorecaster> it was for jaunty
[03:21] <lorecaster> just do the software center... and type in filezilla :D in koala
[03:22] <Werenerd> that is the client only. The FTP server is windows only
[03:22] <lorecaster> i see what you mean now... i run a dot-com with FTP on an off-site system... we are thinking of two different beasts
[03:23] <julien_> salut :)
[03:29] <Habano> hey all
[03:30] <Habano> why am I being asked for a password to log in when I didnt install one
[03:30] <lorecaster> thanks for all your help, crew :D bless you all
[03:31] <Habano> fresh install
[03:31] <Werenerd> Habano: I didn't know you could even leave the password field blank
[03:32]  * szal supposes that there is no way to go w/o a pwd
[03:32] <szal> Habano: if you didn't enter one it's most probably a blank pwd -> just hit Return
[03:32] <Habano> tried that
[03:32] <Habano> ah damn ill redo it
[03:35] <r00t_ninja> Can i play digital tv through Dragon Player with a tv tuner?
[03:38] <Werenerd> anyone else notice that lancelot doesn't show other users logged in when trying to switch users?
[04:05] <Roey> Hey all... why does my SD card suddenly not identify teh filesystem when I use 'mount'??  Also,  when I run Skype, my digital spdif output signal dies.  Why so?
[04:09] <szal> Roey: (1) memory cards can go bad any time; check file system for corruption; (2) iirc, Skype still doesn't run natively on ALSA, instead using OSS, though not sure what role Pulseaudio plays at that point..  my guess is that Skype takes over the sound device (which most probably is not hardware-mixing-capable) completely
[04:09] <Roey> szal:  I checked it in my camera and it's fine.
[04:09] <Roey> szal:  Ahhh, so Skype has issues and it's their problem, not mine, got it.
[04:10] <Roey> szal:  I tried 'aoss skype' to pipe OSS-based apps through ALSA and had the same problem
[04:11] <Roey> btw, I can mount my SD card fine but for some reason the System Notifications tray applet doesn't pick up on this... why not?
[04:12] <Roey> szal:  I was trying to mount /dev/sdd instead of /dev/sdd1  (guess I was forgetful there ;)
[04:12] <Roey> szal:  but KDE still does not pick up on the device insertion/removal, even though dmesg sees it fine.
[04:13]  * szal never had the system tray notification applet come up when mounting memory cards
[04:14] <Roey> so you stick your card in, and nothing happens?
[04:14] <Roey> that's what I'm observing here on my system.
[04:14] <Roey> I only tried to mount it manually through the command-line after I failed to see the notification in KDE after putting my SD card in.
[04:14] <Roey> Do I (the user) need to be a member of any particular group in /etc/group?
[04:17] <szal> no, I stick the card in and the device plugging handler comes up notifying me of that
[04:18] <Roey> udev 147~-6.1
[04:18] <Roey> I updated that today
[04:19] <szal> udev 128 here (openSUSE 11.1)
[04:20] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/m385a7cb
[04:21] <Roey> szal:  ok, and it worked for me just yesterday, before I did an upgrade of the files listed in the link above
[04:22] <szal> tried downgrading again?
[04:22] <Roey> of which packages?
[04:24] <szal> all udev-related
[04:25] <Roey> what'sthe command for that? and would it magically fix problems caused by the newer udev? i.e. does it reconfigure the package, etc.
[04:43] <jacob_> hello
[04:43] <Guest48700> I have a problem which should be very simple, but that I can't figure out
[04:44] <Guest48700> my resolution is set at 800x600
[04:44] <Guest48700> and I can't change it up or down because I can't figure out how to change my monitor
[04:45] <r00t_ninja> Guest: what is your graphics card?
[04:45] <Guest48700> its an intel
[04:45] <Guest48700> I know the problem
[04:45] <r00t_ninja> open a terminal and type
[04:45] <r00t_ninja> lspci | grep VGA
[04:45] <Guest48700> its that my monitor is not autodetected because I use a switch
[04:45] <r00t_ninja> and post the output here
[04:45] <Guest48700> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[04:46] <Guest48700> I know the problem - Kubuntu doesn't think my MONITOR can support any higher resolution
[04:46] <Guest48700> but I can't tell it it does because I can't find where to setup my monitor hardware
[04:47] <Guest48700> I recently reinstalled because of system problems, I had to do this once a long long time ago. (6.10 I think)
[04:47] <russlar> Guest48700: you need to restart the X server to detect teh monitor
[04:47] <r00t_ninja> first do this
[04:47] <r00t_ninja> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:47] <Guest48700> tried it
[04:47] <r00t_ninja> wait
[04:48] <Guest48700> the monitor can NOT autodetect because of a graphic switch in the way that I use to switch between computers
[04:48] <r00t_ninja> that shouldnt matter
[04:48] <Guest48700> I don't know what to say - it does
[04:48] <r00t_ninja> my monitor is only supposed to do 1024 x 768 max
[04:48] <Guest48700> i've had the same problem before and manually setting the monitor was the only way to fix it.
[04:49] <Guest48700> but in 9.10 i can't find the way to manually set the monitor
[04:49] <r00t_ninja> try
[04:49] <r00t_ninja> cvt 1280 1024
[04:49] <r00t_ninja> or whatever resolution
[04:49] <r00t_ninja> or try krandtray
[04:49] <Guest48700> krandtray is unhelpful
[04:50] <Guest48700> says 800x600 is the only resolution supported, and the way I used to SET THE MONITOR HARDWARE IS MISSING!
[04:50] <Guest48700> even the administrator mode button is gone
[04:50] <r00t_ninja> what about
[04:51] <r00t_ninja> xrandr --addmode VGA1 XxY_REFRESHRATE
[04:51] <r00t_ninja> and then
[04:51] <Guest48700> sorry, i'm frustrated as this should be a fairly simple operation and i've spent over an hour and a half
[04:51] <Guest48700> tried that too
[04:51] <r00t_ninja> xrandr -s 1280x1024
[04:51] <r00t_ninja> or whatever resolution
[04:51] <Guest48700> but i will try again and post the output.
[04:52] <Guest48700> xrandr: cannot find mode "1024x768_60"
[04:52] <r00t_ninja> did you do the addmode first?
[04:52] <Guest48700> yes
[04:52] <r00t_ninja> mmm
[04:52] <r00t_ninja> you just update right?
[04:52] <r00t_ninja> *updated
[04:52] <Guest48700> i had to completely reinstall because my system was cluttered
[04:53] <r00t_ninja> make sure xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[04:53] <Guest48700> ok
[04:53] <Guest48700> it is
[04:54] <Guest48700> when kubuntu was at 6.10 there used to be a setting in krandtray that allowed you to pick your monitor from a list. Is there any way to get to that list?
[04:54] <r00t_ninja> im not sure
[04:55] <r00t_ninja> you could try manually edit your xorg.con
[04:55] <r00t_ninja> you could try manually edit your xorg.conf
[04:55] <r00t_ninja> and add the line in there
[04:55] <Guest48700> i couldn't find it? locate -i xorg.conf doesn't return anything
[04:55] <Guest48700> says it doesn't exist?
[04:56] <Guest48700> i think i read someplace that 9.10 doesn't use it anyway?
[04:56] <r00t_ninja> it can use it
[04:56] <r00t_ninja> however hal is taking over
[04:56] <r00t_ninja> cvt 1024 768
[04:57] <Guest48700> 1024x768 59.92 Hz (CVT 0.79M3) hsync: 47.82 kHz; pclk: 63.50 MHz
[04:57] <Guest48700> Modeline "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[04:57] <Guest48700> displays that and does nothing
[04:57] <r00t_ninja> ok now do
[04:57] <r00t_ninja> xrandr --newmode "1024x768_60.00"   63.50  1024 1072 1176 1328  768 771 775 798 -hsync +vsync
[04:59] <Guest48700> done
[04:59] <Guest48700> the screen flashed and nothing happened
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> ok
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> now do
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> xrandr
[04:59] <joseluis> hi there
[05:00] <Guest48700> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 800 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096
[05:00] <Guest48700> VGA1 connected 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[05:00] <Guest48700>    800x600        60.3*
[05:00] <Guest48700>    640x480        59.9
[05:00] <Guest48700>   1024x768_60.00 (0x140)   63.5MHz
[05:00] <FloodBotK1> Guest48700: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <Guest48700>         h: width  1024 start 1072 end 1176 total 1328 skew    0 clock   47.8KHz
[05:00] <r00t_ninja> now do
[05:00] <r00t_ninja> xrandr -s 1280x1024
[05:01] <joseluis> anyone can help me?
[05:01] <r00t_ninja> soon
[05:02] <Guest48700> Size 1024x768 not found in available modes
[05:02] <r00t_ninja> xrandr -s 1280x1024_60,00
[05:02] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:02] <Guest48700> says the same thing
[05:03] <r00t_ninja> i mean
[05:03] <r00t_ninja> xrandr -s 1024x768_60,00
[05:03] <joseluis> i've firefox3.5 and opera 10, but i can't see any website on opera, what can i do????
[05:03] <Guest48700> I know, thats what I put in
[05:03] <r00t_ninja> oh
[05:03] <r00t_ninja> mmm
[05:03] <r00t_ninja> that modes there
[05:03] <Guest48700> i know, its drivin me nuts.
[05:05] <Guest48700> i tried searching google for a good hour at least before I came here, with no luck
[05:06] <r00t_ninja> does krandtray show anything new?
[05:07] <Guest48700> no
[05:07] <Guest48700> wait
[05:07] <Guest48700> i got it
[05:07] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:07] <Guest48700> i needed to add the mode after you told me how to create it
[05:07] <Guest48700> then it showed up
[05:07] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:07] <Guest48700> now, will that mode stay or do i have to do this every start up?
[05:07] <r00t_ninja> it should stay
[05:08] <Guest48700> ok. thank you. :-)
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> i think....
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> try
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> restart xorg and youll know
[05:08] <Guest48700> sure. i'll be back
[05:15] <jacob_> I'm back
[05:15] <jacob_> no luck, i'm back at 800x600 res
[05:20] <Guest89072> hello?
[05:20] <Guest89072> r00t?
[05:20] <Chaitu> Greetings All. I'm having lil problem with compiz. I can see no effects at all when I run  compiz --replace in terminal.  can someone please help?
[05:21] <Chaitu> I also don't see visual effect's tab in system settings...
[05:24] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: I googled -- http://kubuntuguide.org/Jaunty#Compiz_Fusion
[05:25] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Skip installing the packages. You can find it under "    K menu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager -> Window Manager -> Compiz " or similar patyh.
[05:25] <kovach> where can i find bootable imgs from
[05:26] <leaf-sheep> kovach: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[05:26] <kovach> like xp
[05:26] <chen__> what like xp?
[05:27] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : Thanks a ton!! will see if I can get it  going now
[05:27] <kovach> a bootable img for xp pro
[05:27] <leaf-sheep> !windows | kovach
[05:28] <kovach> im trying to do a virtual drive in my linux
[05:29] <bazhang> kovach, that is offtopic here
[05:29] <kovach> ok srry
[05:29] <leaf-sheep> kovach: Then you will need a XP-Pro bootable image first. You can ask in ##windows for Windows-related support/discussion.
[05:32] <kovach> they were no help   talkin bout sifi crap
[05:34] <kovach> can i install msdoss on ubuntu
[05:39] <kovach> can you guve me the kubuntu line to download
[06:15] <ronald> hi there..
[06:17] <ronald> i use 9.04 ubuntu but i have no sound.plz hepl me
[06:28] <twinkie_addict> where is the add remove aps thinging in kubuntu ?
[06:28] <twinkie_addict> im fine with atp but was just wondoering
[06:28] <twinkie_addict> apt even
[06:29] <r00t_ninja> theres kpackagekit
[06:29] <r00t_ninja> kubuntu doesnt get the new software center
[06:29] <twinkie_addict> ah ok
[06:30] <twinkie_addict> fine with me lol
[06:30] <twinkie_addict> i had to get away from that gmome desktop im a kde man myself
[06:32] <pulaski> hello, How can I use the software management tool on kubuntu 9.1 "karmic..." to find a list of available TV packages I can use with my old Hauppauge tv card?
[06:33] <pulaski> that is kubuntu 9.10 "karmic koala"
[06:40] <r00t_ninja> pulaski: try vlc or xawtv
[06:41] <pulaski> r00t_ninja:  Thank you for responding, I will.
[06:41] <r00t_ninja> vlc is a bit harder to configure however is it more modern
[07:14] <Chaitu> Greetings All.  Fonts on firefox are messed up in Kubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22232  - says I need to install a package but when I do apt -get  install gtk2-engines-gtk qt - it says no package found.. can someone please help me?
[07:14] <r00t_ninja> how did you install firefox?
[07:14] <r00t_ninja> through the installer in the menu?
[07:14] <Chaitu> Yes
[07:16] <superboy> i cant upgrade it says this""Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127."" what do i do?
[07:16] <Chaitu> With my lil knowledge on this O.S I guess I need to add gnome repositories to kde... not sure how to do that and install that package though
[07:18] <Chaitu> can anyone tell me how to have kde look for gnome packages?
[07:18] <Chaitu> I mean add gnome addresses to apt -get ?
[07:20] <Tm_T> Chaitu: nah, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and others use same package sources
[07:21] <Roey> hey
[07:21] <Roey> udev is broken with the latest udev package update.
[07:21] <Roey> Woohoo ;)
[07:22] <Roey> for some reason, kde and udev appear once again out of sync.  I slipped in an SD card into my SD reader, saw that the kernel had detected it fine in the output of 'dmesg' but...no notification appeared in the tray's notifier applet.
[07:22] <Roey> ah wel.
[07:22] <Roey> well.
[07:23] <Chaitu> Tm_T, : Then why does apt -get that package says not found?
[07:23] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: What package?
[07:24] <superboy> i cant upgrade it says this""Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127."" what do i do?
[07:24] <r00t_ninja> Roey: it seems fine for me
[07:25] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[07:26] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : firefox fonts are messed up and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22232&highlight=gtk2-engines-gtk-qt says I need that package
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: That package does not exist -- You can get a list --> "aptitude search gtk2-engines"
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: That link is old -- 2005. :0
[07:27] <Chaitu>  leaf-sheep : should I type aptitude gtk2-engines in terminal?
[07:28] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: "aptitude search gtk2-engines" will display a list of packages in Ubuntu Repositories.
[07:28] <bdgraue> superboy: did you try to upgrade from konsole?
[07:29] <superboy> how do i upgrade tru console?
[07:29] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : Thanks. It does show packages of gtk ..now how would I know which package to install?
[07:30] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: You don't. See -- That link you read -- is outdated.  I mean, 2005? That is 4 years ago.
[07:31] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Find something more recent in search engines.
[07:31] <Chaitu> I realize that now leaf-sheep . Am trying to figure out how to get fonts in firefox now...
[07:31] <Chaitu> k will try leaf-sheep
[07:31] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: What fonts?
[07:31] <superboy> how do i upgrade tru console?
[07:32] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : The problem is, fonts in chrome when am on windows are just fine.. when I boot into kubuntu and try to browse using firefox,  it looks very ugly and I have the urge to switch to windows.. which I dont want to..
[07:33] <superboy> i cant upgrade it says this""Distribution upgrade process exited with code 127."" what do i do?
[07:34] <bdgraue> superboy: sudo do-release-upgrade    (best you go to tty1 and do an 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'  in the first place)
[07:34] <superboy> whats tty1 ?
[07:34] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: From what I'm reading right now, you installed Firefox using "Firefox Installer Button" or some sort?
[07:35] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : yes, firefox has been installed using installer button in menu
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> superboy: If you can, back up your precious data and do a clean installation. There are always potential problems in upgrading between versions. I heard there were a lot in jaunty-->karmic
[07:36] <bdgraue> superboy: crtl + alt + F1  (your desktop is no ctrl + alt + F7[as long as you haven't killed it with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop])
[07:36] <bdgraue> s/no/on
[07:36] <superboy> thanks lots of help dude
[07:37] <Chaitu> Just wondering, which browser do you guys use? do you have or had any fonts issues?
[07:37] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Screenshot?
[07:37] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : give me a minute please...  thanks a ton
[07:37] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: I don't use KDE. I'm here to help whenever I can. :)
[07:42] <bdgraue> i am connected with lan and wlan, if i disconnect lan and will use wlan only, i am able to reach my router but can't get "the outside" :(
[07:43] <Chaitu> bah its taking time for me to upload a scrrenshot... sorry
[07:44] <bdgraue> if i start with wlan only i have the same behavior
[07:44] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: That's fine. Take your time. I think I'm going downstairs to grab a bowl of rice. I'll be back in moments.
[07:47] <student> ghj
[07:53] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep, : Thanks - http://tinyurl.com/yb7glza
[07:53] <leaf-sheep> Small resolution? Wow.
[07:53] <Chaitu> :o
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> Check this out -- Useful, maybe?
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266781
[07:55] <Chaitu> doing that leaf-sheep. Thanks a ton leaf-sheep . will see if I can get it up and running
[07:58] <Chaitu> #kde
[07:58] <Chaitu> sorry heh
[08:02] <varanus> what's the corrispondent file /etc/gdm/Init/Default for kde?
[08:08] <superboy> when it say if i want to delete obsolete pakages? when upgrading do i remove them or chose not to
[08:10] <superboy> when it say if i want to delete obsolete pakages? when upgrading do i remove them or chose not to
[08:11] <superboy> when it say if i want to delete obsolete pakages? when upgrading do i remove them or chose not to
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> i would suggest removing them
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> as they are obsolete
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> mmm
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> my wireless seems to be acting up
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> brb
[08:14] <volodya> I have a freshly installed 9.10, and Alt-F2 magically stopped working. How do I figure what's up?
[08:14] <volodya> hmm, apparently I have to run 'krunner' by hand.
[08:25] <crash2k> how do u turn off tapping?
[08:40] <Smurphy> Anyone knows how to use the mouse-buttons 4 and 5 to switch Desktop in KDE 4.3 ?
[08:40] <Smurphy> works nice on Mac OS-X, I'd like to use that feature also on KUbuntu :)
[09:02] <Chaitu> leaf-sheep: Are you around?
[09:02] <leaf-sheep> Around and around goes us.
[09:02] <leaf-sheep> Yes, I'm here. How's the situation?
[09:02] <Chaitu> lol cool .. got one quick question.
[09:03] <Chaitu> at last I found this - http://code.google.com/p/gtk-qt-engine/ - now am trying to do make install for that package and it says it needs cmake
[09:04] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Install cmake.
[09:05] <Chaitu> Right.. I would want to understand how to have cmake in $path as terminal says..
[09:06] <georg_> moin, is someone here using eclipse?
[09:06] <Chaitu> http://pastebin.com/d611586ed  to make it easier for you
[09:06] <georg_> because I have the problem, that I cannot press some button with the mouse
[09:07] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Did you install cmake and try the script again?
[09:07] <georg_> and I am wondering if it is a kde4 problem
[09:07] <mty2k> I get and install kde4 themes/icons using kde, but i never knew they actually get installed in my home directory under ./kde4/share... meaning if i deleted the user the icons and themes would go. how can i make them system wide??
[09:07] <Chaitu> well am downloading cmake now. but how to have cmake in $path is something I dont know.
[09:07] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: You can "sudo aptitude install cmake"
[09:08] <Chaitu> oh ok
[09:08] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: Always check the repository first.  If it's not there, then oh well, you'll have to install/configure first.
[09:08] <leaf-sheep> Chaitu: 1) Check the repo --> "sudo aptitude search cmak"   Is it there? Yes. Install it. "sudo aptitude install cmake" You're done.
[09:09] <Chaitu> yes. it gave me results for sudo aptitude install cmake and its installing now.
[09:10] <leaf-sheep> mty2k: Try "sudo updatedb ; locate kde4 | grep share" -- You might find the path.
[09:11] <leaf-sheep> mty2k: Should be in /usr/share/ -->
[09:13] <mty2k> leaf-sheep: then i copy the themes in my home directory there?
[09:13] <mty2k> how about permissions?
[09:13] <leaf-sheep> mty2k: Use sudo to move them.
[09:13] <Smurphy> Anyone knows how to use the mouse-buttons 4 and 5 to switch Desktop in KDE 4.3 ?
[09:14] <Smurphy> works nice on Mac OS-X, I'd like to use that feature also on KUbuntu :)
[09:14] <mty2k> thanks
[09:22] <Chaitu> argh man getting this done is not easy !
[09:22] <Chaitu> can someone please tell me what this means : http://pastebin.com/d5abb6e01
[09:23] <jussi01> Chaitu: why are yu building it?
[09:24] <Chaitu> then how do I install that gtk package?
[09:24] <jussi01> Chaitu: which kubuntu version are you on?
[09:24] <Chaitu> Am trying to install that package so that fonts in firefox are fine...
[09:24] <Chaitu> 9.10
[09:25] <jussi01> Chaitu: have you looked in system settings - appearance - gtk+ appearance yet?
[09:25] <TheKro> when I try to run bluetooth manager, I get the error message "Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue". suggestions?
[09:26] <Chaitu> jussi01, : It doesnt give me any option of changing it
[09:26] <jussi01> Chaitu: hrm?
[09:27] <Chaitu> the option of "use my kde fonts in gtk+ applications" is clicked
[09:27] <Chaitu> am not able to click on "change" or "use another font"
[09:29] <Chaitu> google and ubuntu forms said that I need that package installed to change my font settings in firefox... now am trying to install that package and get that error message about cmake
[09:30] <Chaitu> is there any browser in KDe without font issues?? I wouldnt mind changing browser... its taking too much time for me now
[09:31] <jussi01> Chaitu: Im suprised, my browsers are working fine, though you can try arora, google chrome, opera, and others
[09:32] <Chaitu> Which browser do you use jussi01 ?
[09:33] <jussi01> Chaitu: I have 3 or 4... but usually firefox.
[09:33] <jussi01> Chaitu: also, just found this: http://marcosaruj.com/archives/401
[09:33] <ghostcube> midori
[09:33] <ghostcube> is good
[09:33] <ghostcube> :)
[09:33] <Chaitu> You never had any font issues with firefox?
[09:33] <Chaitu> looking at it right now jussi01  thanks
[09:33] <ghostcube> jussi01: you tried midori
[09:33] <jussi01> ghostcube: Ive tried many things, but IM still on FF. next question? :D
[09:34] <ghostcube> sure me too but midori gets better
[09:34] <ghostcube> :)
[09:34] <ghostcube> i use the git version
[09:34] <ghostcube> and git webkit
[09:36] <Chaitu> jussi01, : Thanks.. will try that
[09:40] <volodya> is it expected that in 9.10, when I open an imap folder in kmail, it appears to try downloading every single email there
[09:41] <volodya> at least what's what the jobs indicator say
[09:41] <Chaitu> jussi01, : one quick question.  when I do second step in the link you gives a error msg.. can ya help?
[09:41] <jussi01> Chaitu: did you read the comments at the bottom?
[09:43] <Chaitu> yes. am doing that and trying to understand what to do....
[09:44] <jussi01> so what is the  error you are getting?
[09:46] <Chaitu> http://pastebin.com/m57c4e68d jussi01
[09:47] <jussi01> capital C Chaitu
[09:47] <Chaitu> oh.. thats a silly one.
[09:47] <jussi01> you need to make sure everything that is caps somewhere is caps in your machine
[09:47] <Chaitu> Am sorry jussi01. very new to all this
[09:47] <jussi01> Chaitu: linux is case sensitive.
[09:52] <Smurphy> Anyone knows how to use the mouse-buttons 4 and 5 to switch Desktop in KDE 4.3 ?
[09:52] <Chaitu> jussi01, : The site says " inside the folder with the extracted contents from step 1, extract included tar.gz file to the themes folder"  : What does that mean???
[09:54] <jussi01> Chaitu: it means that you have to go to the folder where you downloaded the it to (desktop?)
[09:55] <Chaitu> jussi01, : I did the 1st step. sudo apt -get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[09:55] <Chaitu> and trying to do the second one
[09:55] <jussi01> Chaitu: nope, thats the second step
[09:56] <jussi01> it has a number 2 in front of it...
[09:56] <jussi01> ;)
[09:56] <Chaitu> man
[09:56] <Chaitu> sorry about that man.. seriously. I need a smoke badly
[09:56]  * jussi01 hugs Chaitu
[09:57] <Chaitu> lol am on this since last 3 hours...
[09:57] <jussi01> oko, Im off for lunch. read carefully and hope you can figure it out.
[09:57] <Chaitu> appreciate your patience jussi01 : )
[09:57] <Chaitu> have a good one
[10:03] <Smurphy> Anyone knows how to use the mouse-buttons 4 and 5 to switch Desktop in KDE 4.3 ?
[10:06]  * jussi01 is eat lunch at the pc it seems.
[10:07] <jussi01> Smurphy: logitech mouse?
[10:17] <Smurphy> jussi01: yep.
[10:17] <jussi01> !info btnx | Smurphy
[10:17] <Smurphy> jussi01: Thx... will try it out.
[10:19]  * Smurphy asks himself though - why he can't configure this simply in the standard KDe system configuration
[10:20] <mty2k> how can i install vlc with suppport for converting all video formats inclusive of mp4
[10:23] <r00t_ninja> mty2k: do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:24] <mty2k> yea
[10:24] <r00t_ninja> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg?
[10:24] <r00t_ninja> wat
[10:24] <r00t_ninja> dw
[10:25] <mty2k> r00t_ninja: no, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[10:29] <Smurphy> jussi01: Btw - it works. Thx a bunch :)
[10:29] <jussi01> Smurphy: great!
[10:33] <ncfi1013_> if i have an optical drive that is capable of burning blu-rays does that mean that an 8gib dual layer dvdrdl can also be a blu-ray recordable disc?
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ncfi1013_: no you need special blue ray media disks
[10:54] <Kolia> Riddell: is there a ppa where the microblog plasmoid is fixed in Kubuntu?
[10:55] <eagles0513875> hey guys i got a question for yall i have tor installed do i need apt-proxy to access the repos
[11:02] <mty2k> i have vlc - got it from package manager --- but cant convert any video format. yet i have ffmpeg - full
[11:03] <szal> in my understanding VLC is for watching, not for transcoding..
[11:04] <r00t_ninja> vlc can convert
[11:04] <r00t_ninja> http://tazbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/convert-video-formats-with-vlc.html
[11:06] <Riddell> Kolia: what's wrong with it?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> !apt-proxy
[11:07]  * eagles0513875 starts getting frustrated
[11:08] <Kolia> Riddell: still not showing my friends tweets
[11:10] <Kolia> Riddell: more exactly, when i check "Show friends", nothing shows up. When I uncheck it, I see my own tweets.
[11:14] <m4rtin> hi, just upgraded to karmic and am having problems with scp autocompletion. The keys seem to be working as I can ssh to the remote host without password, but when I try to autocomplete, everything after the ":" is treated as local
[11:15] <Smurphy> m4rtin: didn't know a remote autocompletion existed at all ... Eventually it only works if you have authorized+keys setup ..
[11:17] <m4rtin> Smurphy: thanks for the reply. Yes, it exists and worked fine in my Jaunty setup. I have setup authorized_keys (have key based login)... although I'm using RSA rather than my previous DSA setup... is that likely to be it?
[11:19] <Smurphy> m4rtin: The local public key must exist in the remote ~/.ssh/authorized_key file - if not it won't work.
[11:19] <Smurphy> BTW - I never tried it out ;)
[11:20] <m4rtin> Smurphy: yes, it does (as I said, can do "ssh host" and it connects using the key)
[11:21] <Smurphy> m4rtin: then something else changed IMHO.
[11:22] <m4rtin> Smurphy: seems so
[11:22] <m4rtin> Smurphy: it's not even that it can't connect, it's that it is doing a *local* completion
[11:22] <m4rtin> I'll have a forum-hunt :)
[11:23] <Smurphy> m4rtin: yeah. good idea :)
[11:24] <bucur> salutare
[11:24] <bucur> stie careva romaneste?
[11:24] <Smurphy> Tkelem L'arbia ?
[11:25] <bucur> as fi avut nevoie de ajutor, daca se putea
[11:25] <Smurphy> dd if=googlebraindump_year_2009 of=bucur_brain bs=4M
[11:25] <Smurphy> :)
[11:35] <eagles0513875> how can i access the repos when behind a proxy i am currently using tor to bypass it but i am still unable to access the the repos
[11:36] <r00t_ninja> have you configured the proxy in the kde settings?
[11:55] <Crash_override> Àáàëäåòü!
[11:57] <alvin> Is it normal that Launchpad icons are overlapping links if you are using Konqueror? It's plain ugly.
[11:58] <alvin> eagles0513875: Set the tor proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf (something like: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://localhost:8080/";)
[11:59] <JediMaster> Can any Amarok users explain to me how to add a song to a saved playlist?
[11:59] <JediMaster> I've tried dragging the song into my saved playlist and it keeps adding a random song I didn't click on
[12:00] <JediMaster> is it safe to presume it's a bug?
[12:01] <robin0800> JediMaster: think you right click and choose to add
[12:03] <JediMaster> robin0800, don't have that option, can only "queue" it
[12:12] <Ev0luti0n_> guys
[12:12] <Ev0luti0n_> does your amarok 2.2 also lacks shoutcast listing on "internet services" ?
[12:13] <Tm_T> Ev0luti0n_: yes, because of shoutcast licence issue, or something like that
[12:14] <Ev0luti0n_> ohhh
[12:14] <Ev0luti0n_> had no clue
[12:14] <Ev0luti0n_> thks for the info
[12:14] <Tm_T> r00t_ninj|a: please don't use awaynicks
[12:15] <Ev0luti0n_> although you can still save on ur bookmarks and play it later on
[12:15] <Ev0luti0n_> O.o
[12:15] <Tm_T> Ev0luti0n_: I don't remember where it was explained, try google it (:
[12:15] <Tm_T> Ev0luti0n_: sure, it's just about Amarok devels distributing it or not, what user does is up to user (:
[12:15] <Ev0luti0n_> yeah
[12:15] <Ev0luti0n_> thks
[12:16] <Ev0luti0n_> DAMN IT
[12:17] <Ev0luti0n_> my amarok doens't work now
[12:17] <Ev0luti0n_> :@
[12:17] <Ev0luti0n_> no sound, for no apparent reason
[12:17] <Ev0luti0n_> any clues?
[12:18] <Ev0luti0n_> great
[12:18] <Ev0luti0n_> i can't test the sound devices either
[12:24] <Ev0luti0n_> Tm_T: any clue?
[12:24] <Ev0luti0n_> oh my
[12:24] <Ev0luti0n_> O.o
[12:24] <Ev0luti0n_> sound works again
[12:24] <Ev0luti0n_> :|
[12:24] <FloodBotK1> Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <Kolia> i have no more shutdown/restart buttons in my K menu after Karmic upgrade.. any idea?
[12:43] <szal> Kolia: sounds like you started KDE by executing startx
[12:43] <yoshi765> fuck ubuntu
[12:44] <yoshi765> DAMN FREENODE
[12:44] <Kolia> szal: szal: hum actually i have gdm at starting and from there i chose a kde session. might be related?
[12:44] <Riddell> Tm_T wins
[12:44] <szal> heh
[12:44] <Tm_T> Riddell: I'm old and slow but sometimes I'm lucky (;)
[12:45] <Kolia> Riddell: any idea about the microblog thingy?
[12:46] <Riddell> Kolia: hmm, no, I'll need to look into it
[12:47] <Kolia> Riddell: let me know if i can help
[12:49] <ubuntu_> say hai...
[12:49] <Tm_T> hi hi
[12:49] <ubuntu_> iam new user
[12:49] <ubuntu_> :)
[12:49] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: welcome, are you already familiar with our channel?
[12:50] <ubuntu_> no... can help me ?
[12:50] <szal> with what?
[12:50] <szal> we can't read your mind
[12:50] <Tm_T> szal: (:
[12:50] <rork> yet
[12:51] <szal> rork: why yet?  are you developing such skills? ;)
[12:51] <ubuntu_> can you tell me how to enable desktop effect on kubuntu ?
[12:51] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: shortly, read topic, stay polite and have fun (: (and you can freely ask the real question without asking if you can ask)
[12:52] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: what kind of display card you have?
[12:52] <ubuntu_> intel gma...
[12:52] <szal> ubuntu_: Systemsettings -> Desktop Effects -> tick the checkbox..  requires 3D-enabled gfx driver to be installed
[12:53] <ubuntu_> where i can get those menu ?
[12:56] <ubuntu_> oooo... thanks...
[12:56] <ubuntu_> my intel gma natively support
[13:05] <rork> szal: it shouldn't be too hard: we could've registered ubuntu_ staring at the desktopeffects screenshots for a long time, then heading to the settingspage trying to check the disabled checkbox and do a google search. A webcam can register his emotions. Then his question would be obvious.
[13:05] <szal> well, that's not exactly mind-reading..
[13:06] <tim-> using 9.10, i cant make wireless work with a non-broadcast ssid to save my life... i have tried switching over to wicd and still no luck. anyone have any advice?
[13:06] <ubuntu_> ok ok thanks
[13:06] <m4rtin> Smurphy: if you are still there, I have got it fixed, but it involved detailed hacking of the /etc/bash_completion.d/ssh file
[13:07] <andreas__> uUuH..!!
[13:07] <m4rtin> andreas__: was that at me?
[13:07] <andreas__> do u tink so?
[13:08] <andreas__> think*
[13:08] <m4rtin> well, I wasn't sure if you were implying that I should have found another, cleaner solution or if you were addressing that general groan to the previous conversation
[13:09] <andreas__> i said:: uUuH..!!
[13:09] <andreas__> i haven't read the previous conversation
[13:10] <andreas__> what's about?
[13:12] <Roey> Riddell:  heya
[13:12] <r00t_ninja> tim-: how are you doing it?
[13:12] <Roey> there's this weird thing with udev as of the latest version
[13:12] <r00t_ninja> no usb?
[13:13] <tim-> r00t_ninja: outside of having no wireless i am well.. thanks
[13:13] <Roey> Riddell:  the notifier applet doesn't pick up on newly-inserted SD card, even though I can see the kernel notices it when I do dmesg
[13:13] <r00t_ninja> tim-: is your wireless card working?
[13:13] <r00t_ninja> but you just cant connect to hidden ssids?
[13:14] <tim-> r00t_ninja: seems to be. when i first start wicd it sees them and says they are <hidden> but i cant attach to them
[13:14] <ghostcube> sounds like wicd this has the prob too
[13:14] <Riddell> Roey: we still use hal (not the new devicekit/udev stuff)
[13:14] <tim-> all of mine are hidden so I dont have one to test otherwise
[13:14] <r00t_ninja> have you tried using knetworkmanager?
[13:14] <Riddell> Roey: so it could be a bug anywhere in linux/hal/solid/applet
[13:15] <r00t_ninja> click the network manager icon in the sys tray and then do connect to other with
[13:15] <Riddell> Roey: it works generally (if it didn't we'd get loads of complaints) so something funny in your situation I'm afraid, has it ever worked in karmic for you?
[13:15] <r00t_ninja> and click connect
[13:15] <llutz> m4rtin: "dpkg -S  /etc/bash_completion.d/ssh" should tell you, what package to file the bug to
[13:16] <tim-> r00t_ninja: knetworkmanager wouldnt work at all. i tried adding the ssid quite a few times to no luck
[13:16] <tim-> if you think it would be helpful i can reinstall it (wicd removed it i believe)
[13:16] <r00t_ninja> im not sure
[13:16] <r00t_ninja> can you see any other aps?
[13:16] <Roey> Riddell:  well I thought it must be udev (given my limited knowledge of it) because it happened as soon as I upgraded these packages yesteday morning: http://pastebin.com/m385a7cb
[13:17] <tim-> yes, i see a neighbors by name, but it has web turned on
[13:17] <r00t_ninja> ok
[13:17] <r00t_ninja> so your wireless card is working
[13:17] <tim-> the other odd thing, wicd only sees them until i try to attach to one then it never lists them again
[13:17] <Roey> Riddell:  (if that answers your question)
[13:19] <m4rtin> llutz: thank you
[13:19] <Riddell> Roey: hmm, I should do an upgrade and check that's not a general issue then
[13:19] <Roey> thank so much Jonathan
[13:19] <tim-> is there another network mangager? wicd seems a bit weak
[13:20] <ghostcube> hmm wicd is fine so far what do you mean with weak ?
[13:20] <tim-> ghostcube: well.. for 1 it doesnt work
[13:20] <Roey> Riddell:  again, the behavior I observed is that even though 'dmesg' shows that the kernel detected /dev/sdd1 once I slipped my SD card into the reader, I saw no pop-up from KDE's notification applet
[13:21] <tim-> but i am not able to preconfigure SSIDs either
[13:21] <ghostcube> tim-: you checked the interfaces files
[13:21] <ghostcube> like described on wicd age ?
[13:21] <ghostcube> tim-: nah ssids that are unvisible seem to make linux trouble i cant get mine working too doesnt matter what network manager i use
[13:21] <ghostcube> *page not age
[13:22] <tim-> ghostcube: i must have missed that part.. which page is that one (i just found a forum post re: wicd)
[13:22] <ghostcube> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[13:22] <ghostcube> a bit strange its menioned on download page
[13:22] <ghostcube> o.o
[13:24] <Smurphy> m4rtin: cool :)
[13:24] <tim-> yeah, that is an off place for it, but i have that part covered
[13:24] <m4rtin> Smurphy: going to take the dive and submit my first patch :)
[13:24] <tim-> i havent ever had this problem before... how do i switch back to knetworkmanager?
[13:25] <Kolia> szal: you were right, as i was using gdm, it was not loading the shutdown/restart buttons
[13:26] <Kolia> thanks for the clue
[13:53] <crissi_> ok so i fail.   i accidentally removed my panel that held my open applications.. and now cannot figure out how to make it come back.  I have googled, and cant find exactly what im looking for.  Maybe im not asking the right question. I dont know.
[13:53] <crissi_> any help?
[13:54] <Kolia> crissi_: right click > add panel
[13:54] <crissi_> ok
[13:55] <Kolia> crissi_: or you are talking of the part of the panel where the open applications are minimized?
[13:55] <crissi_> yes that
[13:55] <Kolia> so you see the panel but no more the open applications right?
[13:55] <crissi_> right
[13:55] <Kolia> click the yellow icon on the right of the panel
[13:55] <crissi_> i also see the clock
[13:56] <Kolia> then "add plasmoid"
[13:56] <crissi_> and the hidden application bar.
[13:56] <crissi_> ok
[13:56] <Kolia> crissi_: it's back?
[13:56] <crissi_> no.
[13:56] <crissi_> im looking for plasmoid
[13:57] <Kolia> there is a task bar plasmoid
[13:57] <Kolia> or task manage (don't know the exact english word for it)
[13:58] <Kolia> crissi_: have you found the yellow icon? (the cashew)
[13:58] <crissi_> yes
[13:58] <crissi_> but i only see add widgets
[13:58] <crissi_> lock widgets
[13:58] <crissi_> and more settings
[13:59] <Kolia> crissi_: add widgets
[13:59] <crissi_> k thats where I am now.
[14:00] <Kolia> now find the "task manager" widget in the list
[14:00] <crissi_> and i see task manager
[14:00] <Kolia> and add it
[14:00] <crissi_> it is already starred like its there.
[14:00] <crissi_> but i'll try removing and adding again
[14:00] <Kolia> crissi_: star doesn't meand it's added
[14:00] <crissi_> oh
[14:00] <Kolia> :)
[14:01] <crissi_> ok its back!
[14:01] <crissi_> thank you soo much
[14:01] <Kolia> star = favorite (i think)
[14:01] <crissi_> ah ok
[14:01] <Kolia> crissi_: no problem :)
[14:04] <SiVA_> really loving the new kubuntu... KDE is much more stable since the last time I tried it
[14:05] <SiVA_> one problem I have is, when I hit alt-tab (and hold down alt to cycle), it takes a few milliseconds too many for the switcher to display
[14:06] <SiVA_> it gets in the way after using it 100 times each day... how can I make the switcher display instantly?
[14:06] <Smurphy> SiVA_: Guess it's an issue with your 3D acceleration. what graphic chip you have ?
[14:07] <SiVA_> 128MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS
[14:07] <SiVA_> I can play 3d games just fine
[14:07] <SiVA_> oh wait... I haven't tried yet since I reinstalled
[14:09] <Smurphy> SiVA_: Have you installed the restricted drivers ? and - make sure you install the backported modules...
[14:10] <SiVA_> Smurphy: i'll check it out. not sure what you mean by backported modules
[14:11] <Smurphy> SiVA_: Backported modules are kernel drivers from the development branch. usually they fix quite some bugs that are not in the official release.
[14:11] <Smurphy> It has fixed issues I had with the WiFi b.e.
[14:12] <OpenMaster_> Is there in linux a "path for shared libraries" ?
[14:12] <OpenMaster_> ( kubuntu 9.10 )
[14:12] <chaitu> can anyone help me with fonts in firefox please?
[14:13] <Smurphy> OpenMaster_: check the file: /etc/ld.so.conf - all in there. After you modify it, update the cache file with ldconfig
[14:14] <Smurphy> chaitu: What's the issue ?
[14:14] <chaitu> Fonts are messedup in firefox Smurphy. I realize its  a known issue but not sure how to go about it
[14:15] <Smurphy> Hm. easiest is really to dump the firefox configuration then.
[14:15] <chaitu> which browser do you suggest?  I mean Iam done with trying to fix firefox...
[14:15] <Smurphy> I am using Konqueror most of the time.
[14:16] <Smurphy> and have no issues with firefox ;)
[14:16] <chaitu> lol cool
[14:17] <genii> Arora is coming along as well
[14:17] <OpenMaster_> Smurphy: I need to add this library "libaacskeys.so" ; where should I put that file?
[14:18] <SiVA_> whats the equivalent of add-apt-repository for aptitude?
[14:19] <lorecaster> yesterday, some good samaritines helped me with samba... anyone here willing to help me out?
[14:19] <chaitu> Smurphy:  How do we install new themes using menu? when I go to desktop settings and download new themes I dont see them in the drop down box.. can ya help me there?
[14:22] <Smurphy> chaitu: You probably download themes that are not compatible, e.g. wrong version. try some more until you find a version that works. Send a Bug report to the maintainer of the site ..
[14:23] <chaitu> Smurphy: Am clicking on the "get new themes" button and it gives me a list. I thought they gotta be compactable when shown in the list?
[14:24] <Smurphy> OpenMaster_: /usr/local/lib and make sure /usr/local/lib is in the /etc/ld.so.conf file. run ldconfig after the file is in place and the /etc/ld.so.conf file are updated, and you should be done.
[14:24] <Smurphy> chaitu: thought that too the first time I tried ... :}
[14:24] <chaitu> o0 :) any good site you recomend for kde themes Smurphy?
[14:25] <OpenMaster_> Thanks Smurphy :)
[14:26] <Smurphy> chaitu: Nope sorry. I don't use themes - they slow down the desktop....
[14:27] <Smurphy> OpenMaster_: You're welcome ;)
[14:27] <chaitu> Thanks Smurphy
[14:27] <Smurphy> ;)
[14:27] <lorecaster> Samba? Anyone? :P
[14:29] <Smurphy> lorecaster: used samba the last time 5 years ago. sorry ...
[14:29] <lorecaster> wish i could say the same, Smurphy... this is a royal pain
[14:30] <Smurphy> lorecaster: I stopped using samba and all Windows compatibility stuff because it was a PITA ... already back then.
[14:30] <Smurphy> using NFS or sshfs. Later-one works for mac Os-X and windows (linux of course). So - I don' t care about sambe anymore
[14:31] <lorecaster> i need to share some folders between two koala machines... though i'd like to get a windows working...
[14:31] <lorecaster> willing to give an SSHFS tutorial? :P though anything with SSH in it sounds scary and command-promptish
[14:31] <lorecaster> lol
[14:31] <lorecaster> i'm getting a macbook after xmas... i should probably warm up to that one now
[14:32] <Smurphy> lorecaster: all you relly have to do, is generate to private keys on all locations you want to have access on, and distribute the public component to the authorized keys section. then, access is transparent :)
[14:32] <Smurphy> :)
[14:32] <lorecaster> :| it cannot be that simple.
[14:32]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about fish://
[14:32] <lorecaster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[14:33] <lorecaster> using this, wise?
[14:33] <Smurphy> lorecaster: yeah. kind of. I'm an old linux crowd (started back in early 1993), so I tend to do my own stuff ;)
[14:34] <Smurphy> genii: fish is working from linux to linux fine... Winblows is another matter ...
[14:34] <lorecaster> i'm a new seed... only been face-and-eyes into the linux world about a year... in 1993, i was in primary school. :P
[14:34] <Smurphy> lorecaster: Well - I'm an old Crabe by now ;)
[14:35] <lorecaster> I just desire a solid, robust OS package to limit my stress... i'm currently enrolled in a university-plan to get my honours degre in english in 24 months. :S I want to limit my stress where I can.
[14:35] <lorecaster> lol
[14:36] <OpenMaster_> Smurphy: in /etc/ld.so.conf there is only "include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf"   should I add in another row "include /usr/local/lib" ? I missed to tell you that this librery is a 64bit lib
[14:37] <chaitu> It's great to see people helping newbies. One of the main reasons Linux has grown.... Thanks to all : )
[14:37] <Smurphy> OpenMaster_: Check what files exist in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ and if /usr/local/lib is not there, you can either copy one of the existing files in that directory and adapt it, or just add /usr/local/lib to the ld.so.conf file.
[14:37] <lorecaster> i whole heartedly agree... i'd have been foudn dangling in the pantry if no one was here to help me :D
[14:38] <lorecaster> I'm pretty close to self-sufficient now, by practice alone. this place (the default chat in KONVERSATION) is an amazing resource
[14:38] <chaitu> I remember Redhat having a default package to handle .tar files... wish ubuntu has it
[14:38] <Flootenkerp> Hi, I have a small issue. I deleted programs that were installed with wine, but not using the uninstaller. Now the folders are gone, but wine still shows them when I go under applications, wine, and programs.
[14:38] <Flootenkerp> Any way to remove them from the list?
[14:39] <Smurphy> lorecaster: yeah. I did chat quite heavily in the past. nowadays I don't have that much time, but my pat Linux experience actually pays my salary. swo - it was a good choice I did in the past :0
[14:39] <Smurphy> :)
[14:39] <chaitu> Good for you as its paying you. good for us as you are happy and helping ;-)
[14:40] <lorecaster> i'm terrified by the IT industry... i actually have a 2-year diploma in Computer Support Specialist... but the amoutn of material that you have to EAT in order to stay current scared me away from a job... adn we never saw linux ONCE in that course, not in a practical context
[14:41] <lorecaster> I have my users as part of the fuse group... now, do i need an SSH server?
[14:42] <SiVA_> installed Nvidia 190, and it appears faster. Thanks!
[14:43] <lorecaster> on that... SiVA_ i've got the 185 drivers installed, but are working fine. anyone recommend me installing the newest?
[14:45] <Smurphy> lorecaster: you are right. I never finished University - as I saw it is bullshit regarding real life experience.
[14:45] <Smurphy> I did never regret not making any degree ;)
[14:45] <lorecaster> and Smurphy, i shunt all of my mundane tasks to my Dell... leaving my powerhouse computer to rendering, gaming, etc... should my dell be the sshserver?
[14:45] <SiVA_> lorecaster: well, KDE hardware drivers recommends it :). Actually I think it's the first non-beta nvidia drivers for linux
[14:46] <lorecaster> i use gnome :$
[14:46] <lorecaster> lol
[14:46] <lorecaster> what command-line allows me to install 190? the hardware drivers GUI doesn't even list it;
[14:46] <genii> Smurphy: Not that it's likely many kids are in here... but please remember to keep the language family-friendly
[14:48] <bataxxx> join
[14:48] <SiVA_> lorecaster: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[14:50] <Smurphy> genii: yes Sir !
[14:50] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:51] <Smurphy> lorecaster: easyer to justgo for : applications -> Systm -> hardware Drivers
[14:51] <lorecaster> i went there, no 190 to be found.
[14:51]  * genii slides BluesKaj a coffee
[14:51] <lorecaster> just 173 and 185
[14:52] <Smurphy> lorecaster: u need 190 driver for a specific reason ?
[14:52]  * BluesKaj accepts coffee with gratitude
[14:52] <lorecaster> not particularly... i had asked the room, if 185 works fine, should i upgrade, and i was tossed a link. took it as a sign
[14:52] <Flootenkerp> I have a small issue. I deleted programs that were installed with wine, but not using the uninstaller. Now the folders are gone, but wine still shows them when I go under applications, wine, and programs.
[14:52] <SiVA_> my firefox fonts for the toolbars, and menu is really big
[14:52]  * Smurphy slurs the coffe cup he just did ... :
[14:52] <Flootenkerp> Any way to remove them from the list? I deleted the folders, not uninstalled it, so I'm not sure how.
[14:53] <Smurphy> lorecaster: using 185 here. no issues so far on a T61p :}
[14:53] <lorecaster> but more important than that... Smurphy, I'd like this SSHFS thing sorted out... what system do i put the openssh-server on, my background-running server, or my mighty-powerhouse where the shares are located?
[14:53] <genii> Flootenkerp: You might want to ask WINE-specific questions in their channel, ##winehq
[14:54] <Flootenkerp> k, thanks
[14:55] <Smurphy> lorecaster: on the server where all files are going to be served...
[14:55] <fl4shb4ck> hi there :)
[14:57] <TheKro_> what is the recommended app for bluetooth dialup (GPRS) in kubuntu?
[14:57] <fl4shb4ck> I've got problems with my sound under kubuntu 9.10.. before the upgrade everything was fine, now I'm getting after a few minutes of musicplaytime (in amarok as well as other players) the notification "hda ... audio doesn't work anymore, switching to pulseaudio" and then the sound is crap :-/ and: since monday my vlc-player doesn't play _any_ sound...
[14:58] <fl4shb4ck> and my firefox is hanging when I play a youtube video, it stops after 2 seconds..
[14:58] <fl4shb4ck> can someone help me, please(!) ?
[14:59] <lorecaster> alrighty
[15:00] <lorecaster> so if i want to share files both ways, both computers are required to be servers? ad this gives RW access,. yes? DELL (client) has a utorrent program that downloads data directly to DESKTOP (host)
[15:01] <lorecaster> openssh-server installed on DESKTOP
[15:01] <lorecaster> hold my hand Smurphy :P I need ya buddy ;)
[15:03] <Smurphy> lorecaster: Yes. You'll have to install the ssh-server on both boxes.
[15:03] <Smurphy> Sorry - just reconfigureing my firewall for use with Virtualbox Virtualmachines ... Kind of complex already ...
[15:03] <Smurphy> and I also am writing a training for some of our folks (Company) which are linux illiterates ... :(
[15:06] <lorecaster> Smurphy: installed on both boxes (i've got a half hour, so i'm good if you're in a hurry)
[15:07] <Smurphy> lorecaster: Just make sure you create on every box - for the user mounting the app, a ssh-key with ssh-keygen, and copy the public part of the key to the remove computer, and append it to the user receiving the connection in his authorized_keys file (usually in $home/.ssh/ directory)
[15:10] <lorecaster> Smurphy: and how would i go about all that? :P
[15:11] <Smurphy> lorecaster: U usually mount the sshfs filesystem through a script in ~/.kde/Autostart - so every user can only mount his own files.
[15:11] <Smurphy> scp ? :)
[15:11] <lorecaster> I just want to share two folders so everyone can see them
[15:13] <leo_> heyho.. i just installed kubuntu 9.1 on my new laptop and it looks like it would need new graphics driver.. but everytime i try to download drivers from the nvidia website (geforce gt240m is my card) it just opens a source code and does not download anything.. can anyone pls help me :-/
[15:15] <Smurphy> lorecaster: share them for world ? Not good ... :}
[15:15] <lorecaster> LOL, everyone on my network... i love saucy-faces, don't ever change. :D
[15:15] <Smurphy> lorecaster: in that cas e- skip sshfs - use samba, and make sure you just share these openly.  That is the learning path we all went through :) Welcome to the Community :D
[15:19] <lorecaster> LOL
[15:19] <amichair> how do I pass switches (.e.g -C) to a command with kdesudo? if I do "kdesudo cmd -C" I get an error from kdesudo (not the app) that -C is not a valid option
[15:19] <Smurphy> lorecaster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[15:19] <Smurphy> :)
[15:19] <Smurphy> lorecaster: or : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-samba-server-with-tdbsam-backend.html
[15:20] <lorecaster> great, thanks. how hard will it be to get this set up on my mac or my XP distro?
[15:20] <Smurphy> :) Your google-Brain extension is your friend in this case ;)
[15:20] <Smurphy> lorecaster: on your mac ? Mac finds it itself. Windows, browse the network, and you're done.
[15:20] <Smurphy> Make sure there is no firewall in the path though :)
[15:20] <lorecaster> sweeeet
[15:20] <lorecaster> no, i have no firewalls in my interior network... only at the bridge
[15:21] <Smurphy> lorecaster: yeah. I do separate WiFi from Lan and WorkLan from all ...
[15:21] <Smurphy> Call me paranoid ;)
[15:21] <Smurphy> but I had made too many bad experiences in the past, and since traffic is separated, I never had an issue anymore.,
[15:33] <seicherlbob> hi there! I tried to run firefox 3.5 (kubuntu 9.10 AMD64, installed using apt) with profile mounted on samba share => failed (known issues with smbfs). Now i tried with sshfs => it starts, but extensions are not recognized properly. A local copy of the same profile works fine, so it is not an incompatibility issue. can i fix that or is it just impossible to have firefox profile on a remote fs (in linux, because it worked
[15:33] <seicherlbob> perfectly fine for years in windoze)??
[15:39] <BluesKaj> seicherlbob, if I understand you correctly you are trying to use samba into a windows machine in Firefox ?
[15:40] <seicherlbob> well... 2 OSs on 1 PC: MS and Kubuntu (dual boot). They should both use the same FF-Profile, which is located on a remote SMB server. Works with Windows, crashes in linux.
[15:40] <xtrmzero> how do i mount a dvd on ubuntu?
[15:41] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: I tried smbfs to mount it, which failes for known reasons since FF2.x. Now i tried sshfs => firefox starts, but has problems/cant use extensions.
[15:42] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: i had the same setup for years on my laptop, but it used a local FAT partition. worked perfectly fine. Now i'd like to use a remote FS instead and its a pain!
[15:43] <lorecaster> i'm off, ttyl
[15:45] <szal> seicherlbob: if you dual-boot, you might want to consider using the profile directly from the Windows settings
[15:45] <szal> ntfs-3g makes it possible ;)
[15:46] <seicherlbob> szal: well, I'd like to have my data on the server (backup and offline availability, etc.)
[15:46] <lorecaster> szal: thank god you;re here :P for some reason, my shares don't work anymore. i was forced to hard-reset my client, and now they won't work. what was it we did with werenerd yesterday?
[15:47] <seicherlbob> szal: and it works in windows and i'd like to get rid of MS and now i cant do that on linux. and i got used to "we can make everything on linux", thats why i love it so much.
[15:47] <szal> lorecaster: chown -R
[15:48] <szal> if you mean that
[15:50] <lorecaster> did that already
[15:50] <lorecaster> -tear- i have to go again, we'll chat later on i suppose... this evening.
[15:51] <tzanger> good morning; I'm trying to get Kubuntu 9.10 to print to pdf; the option is there, but I cannot change the page size from A4 (it is grayed out) -- why is this?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> seicherlbob, szal , what about automounting the windows partition and the remote with fstab edit/entries ? or am I missing something ?
[15:52] <antlarr> hi
[15:52] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: I would love to have the profile on the server, so i need some kind of remote file system. but neither smb/cifs nor sshfs works.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> seicherlbob, what OS is your remote server using ?
[15:53] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: debian
[15:55] <BluesKaj> seicherlbob, have you considered openssh , and then using dolphin or konqueror to connect ?
[15:56] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: its already mounted with sshfs
[15:58] <BluesKaj> abd you're using FF to access the files ?
[15:58] <seicherlbob> BluesKaj: it's not about accessing files, its about the location of the profile
[15:59]  * BluesKaj doesn't undestand the profile thing ...guess it's beyond my scope
[16:00] <seicherlbob> profile = location of all user settings. default location: ~/.mozilla/firefox/profile...
[16:06] <llutz> BluesKaj: it's like having $HOME on remote-fs
[16:07] <BluesKaj> llutz, yeah but , the use of the word profile is confusing to me :)
[16:08] <llutz> BluesKaj: it the name firefox calls the user-settings
[16:08] <llutz> they're stored in your "profile" ~/.mozilla....
[16:08] <BluesKaj> llutz, but why use FF ?
[16:09] <llutz> BluesKaj: ff reads its configuration from that. it's not using ff to access it
[16:09] <llutz> BluesKaj: like bash is reading .bashrc on start, same thing
[16:10] <davide> ciao
[16:10] <davide> ciao ragazzi sono nuovo
[16:10] <bazhang> !it | davide
[16:10] <BluesKaj> llutz, like we use dolphin to ssh or smb ?
[16:10] <llutz> BluesKaj: no, what irc-client are you using?
[16:11] <davide> \list
[16:11] <BluesKaj> konversation
[16:12] <llutz> BluesKaj: try having ~./kde/share/apps/config/konversationrc on a remote-computer, a network-filesystem.
[16:12] <davide> ciao
[16:12] <llutz> ~/.kde*
[16:12] <davide> ragazzi solo un minuto  sono nuovo grazie
[16:12] <bazhang> davide, english here
[16:12] <bazhang> davide, #ubuntu-it for italian
[16:13] <slawcio> :DDDDDDD
[16:13] <seicherlbob> llutz: thanks for explaining ;)
[16:13] <slawcio> why you dont like italians?
[16:13] <slawcio> "tiscali"
[16:13] <slawcio> "ciao"
[16:13] <slawcio> "ciao a tutti"
[16:13] <FloodBotK1> slawcio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <seicherlbob> llutz: have you ever tried to keep ff profile on a remote fs?
[16:13] <slawcio> ?
[16:13] <genii> !ot
[16:13] <llutz> seicherlbob: nope
[16:13] <slawcio> what is zb?
[16:14] <slawcio> why u muted me? :D
[16:14] <seicherlbob> ok, lets try another approach: does anyone know a way to have 2 directories clone each other? like a raid 1 does for harddrives?
[16:14] <Mamarok> slawcio: beahve, please
[16:14] <bazhang> slawcio, did you have a kubuntu support question?
[16:14] <Mamarok> behave*
[16:14] <genii> slawcio: The channel bots will temporarily mute users who they think are flooding the channel. Apparently you fit the profile
[16:15] <slawcio> bazhang: no, i want help ubuntu users here
[16:15] <slawcio> :P
[16:15] <llutz> seicherlbob: like rsync?
[16:15] <seicherlbob> llutz: can rsync synchonize live?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> slawcio, then /join #ubuntu
[16:16] <slawcio> error, kubuntu
[16:16] <slawcio> i have kubuntu too
[16:16] <llutz> seicherlbob: needs some code arround, iguess
[16:16] <slawcio> if you don't want me here i can part...
[16:17] <Mamarok> slawcio: just stick to the rules, then there is no problem
[16:17] <Mamarok> see the topic of the channel
[16:17] <llutz> seicherlbob: inotify might do it for you
[16:17] <BluesKaj> slawcio, then read the introduction about COC etc
[16:17] <seicherlbob> llutz: hmm... brb, i will catch that up again later. thanks for now
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !coc | slawcio
[16:17] <djkori> hello, i neek some help to find how to connect an usb wifi modem model HUAWEI 156b I'm on Kubuntu 8.04
[16:19] <seicherlbob> llutz: ok, back again.... i never heard about inotify. i will have a look on that
[16:19] <llutz> seicherlbob: inotify, iwatch
[16:21] <llutz> seicherlbob: seems not to be available for *buntu, but maybe is what you need http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/inosync
[16:21] <BluesKaj> slawcio, one never knows
[16:23] <seicherlbob> llutz: it is available: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inosync/0.2-1
[16:23] <llutz> seicherlbob: ah sorry, just looked my active repos for it
[16:27] <antlarr> is anybody here using 9.10 with a macbook 5,1 ?
[16:28] <seicherlbob> llutz: or that: lsyncd
[16:29] <antlarr> I'm having random freezes
[16:29] <antlarr> (where "random" means I haven't figured yet a way to reproduce them :) )
[16:31] <llutz> seicherlbob: sounds perfect for your task
[16:32] <seicherlbob> llutz: well... "When not to use: File with active file handles (e.g. database files)"
[16:32] <seicherlbob> which means: NO
[16:32] <SiVA_> I'm using the default task switcher (not box or flip or whatever). Seems if you have a ton of apps open, everything gets squished and unreadable
[16:33] <genii> antlarr: Did you install NVidia drivers for the 9400M in it, or using whatever default driver from the install ?
[16:35] <seicherlbob> llutz: that one was recommended instead: http://www.drbd.org/home/what-is-drbd/
[16:37] <antlarr> I installed nvidia binary drivers
[16:38] <antlarr> as well as the broadcom wifi (wl) binary drivers
[16:38] <antlarr> do you think it may be related to the nvidia drivers?
[16:39] <genii> antlarr: Since that card uses system shared memory, would be my first suspect, yes
[16:40] <seicherlbob> llutz: I'll try lsyncd anyway. Its not that much data, so we'll see if it works. thanks for your help
[16:41] <llutz> seicherlbob: good luck :)
[16:43] <antlarr> genii: ok, I'll check if there's a newer version and try it, if not, I'll see if I can use the opensource drivers
[16:43] <antlarr> thanks
[16:49] <antlarr> Or better said, I'll try as soon as I get a crash now, since I'm now trying the system after using noapic acpi=off apm=off no-hlt noexec=off in the kernel
[16:54] <genii> antlarr: Might want to check the logs after a crash too... some useful ones in /var/log are usually: messages user.log dmesg   and so on
[16:56] <antlarr> nop, messages doesn't say anything at all
[16:56] <antlarr> nor dmesg*
[16:57] <dorces> help
[16:58] <genii> dorces: A better description of your problem would assist us in assisting you
[16:58] <dorces> wait
[17:02] <dorces> http://www.part.lt/img/bca5bd1c12483fd966a0e207d04eb89f614.jpeg
[17:05] <ubuntu_> hi
[17:05] <szal> dorces: obviously you f*cked up your FF fonts, but where's the problem changing them?
[17:07] <ZachK_> what up
[17:07] <garry> hi all
[17:07] <ZachK_> !HI | garry
[17:10] <garry> i hope someone can help, when I go to Hardware Drivers it does not find any drivers for my Gfx card, nVidia GeForce 6200?
[17:10] <ZachK_> nvidia..hmmm
[17:12] <crayfish> garry: I tend to download the linux drivers direct from nvidia, they tend to be more up to date anyway
[17:13] <garry> crayfish: thanks, will do, are there good instructions on how to install them, i'm new to linux
[17:13] <crayfish> garry: they're pretty self explanatory normally, just run the .bin file from the command line and it's all ascii-GUI from there
[17:14] <garry> crayfish: thanks! :D hopefully I'll be able to get it running quickly
[17:22] <garry> strange, konqueror keeps notifying me to install extra packages, but when I start the download the package installer says they are already installed?
[17:27] <garry> crayfish: i've downloaded the driver, but when I try to run "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31-pkg1.run" it says it can't open the file, I am in the directory it is stored in...
[17:28] <slawcio> garry: chmod +x ./NVIDIA-.........
[17:28] <SiVA_> does 'root' not have a default password after installing ubuntu?
[17:29] <slawcio> SiVA_: if u want be root write: sudo bashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:29] <slawcio> *sudo bash
[17:29] <slawcio> sorry
[17:29] <Tm_T> sudo -i is more proper way to have root shell
[17:29] <SiVA_> slawcio: just wondering if root has a password set though..? shouldn't it?
[17:30] <Tm_T> SiVA_: not needed, so it has no password by default
[17:30] <slawcio> SiVA_: try
[17:30] <slawcio> it's works!
[17:31] <slawcio> sudo bash
[17:31] <Tm_T> slawcio: I believe he got it
[17:31] <garry> slawcio: i've tried chmod but it just returns to the next line... nothing seems to happen
[17:32] <Tm_T> garry: add sudo in front of the command, though
[17:32] <Tm_T> !nvidia | garry
[17:32] <Tm_T> garry: if there's no real reason, you should use packaged drivers
[17:33] <slawcio> Tm_T: nvidia doesn't have source of drivers, it isn't open
[17:33] <Tm_T> slawcio: but ubuntu has those drivers packaged
[17:33] <garry> Tm_T: thanks, surely the latest nVidia drivers would be better and get the most from my Gfx card? *confused*
[17:34] <Tm_T> garry: hmm, and ubuntu doesn't provide latest drivers?
[17:36] <Tm_T> garry: which Ubuntu version you have?
[17:36] <garry> Tm_T: do they? I don't know, i'm new to Linux. If I was on Windows I would install drivers from the manufacturer instead of using the vga drivers provided, why not on Linux aswell?
[17:37] <Tm_T> garry: because it's easier just to use what Ubuntu provides, no unneeded steps
[17:38] <garry> Tm_T: I see your point, however there must be a strong case for using proprietary drivers or they wouldn't exist? I just want to see what difference they would make...
[17:39] <Tm_T> garry: and ubuntu provides those proprietary drivers for you, that's what I'm trying to tell you
[17:40] <Tm_T> garry: what Ubuntu version do you have?
[17:41] <garry> Tm_T: Kubuntu 9.10
[17:41] <Tm_T> garry: ah, then all should be easy
[17:42] <Tm_T> garry: you just need to run hardware drivers manager
[17:43] <garry> Tm_T: That was my first port of call, but after searching for drivers it shows nothing..
[17:43] <Tm_T> really?
[17:44] <Tm_T> garry: hmmmmm, I think I know what's wrong, as I don't know how this step can be done with current GUI tools, I'll just tell you how to do it in commandline
[17:44] <blaisdellb> hello
[17:44] <Tm_T> garry: open Konsole and run this command: "sudo apt-get update"
[17:45] <Tm_T> garry: it will ask your password, just write it and press enter
[17:45] <garry> Tm_T: yep, thanks, appreciate your help...
[17:45] <petsounds> hi.. i need help, java applet won't run. http://imagebin.org/71446 . thanks :(
[17:46] <garry> Tm_T: ok it's running... and downloading stuff (I think)
[17:46] <Tm_T> garry: good, after it's done, retry with drivers manager
[17:46] <blaisdellb> you should try adding a hotpocket to your mysql
[17:46] <blaisdellb> that should do the trick
[17:47] <macken> petsounds> do you have the java plugin installed
[17:47] <petsounds> macken : yes, java bin, java jre, and sun java6 plugin
[17:48] <blaisdellb> sup bishopr
[17:48] <macken> are you trying to run an applet from a browser
[17:48] <petsounds> macken : yes. firefox 3.5.5
[17:48] <garry> Tm_T: fantastic, that's done the trick!!! Thank you for your help... Just out of interest what did that command do...?
[17:49] <macken> sun java 6 plugin should make it work. make sure to restart your browser
[17:49] <Tm_T> garry: it updated your package lists, so your system know what packages are available
[17:50] <Tm_T> garry: normal updater and installer tools does the same thing
[17:50] <blaisdellb> yes that is true
[17:51] <garry> Tm_T: ah... good stuff, I think this may have also solved my other issues with installing the konqueror addons that the notifications keep popping up for...
[17:51] <Tm_T> garry: ye, known bug that Karmic (9.10) install doesn't create the package list, all is fine after it's initially checked
[17:52] <macken> petsounds> go ahead and install the icedtea java and plugin
[17:52] <garry> Tm_T: thanks for coming to my rescue, I thought I had a duff install at first...
[17:53] <Tm_T> garry: clad we could help
[17:53] <petsounds> macken : i test my java at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml and the result is fine. but when i open facebook or myspace and uploading photos, java won't load. and for the icedtea, should i remove then sun version first?
[17:54] <macken> no u can have both installed. I do
[17:55] <petsounds> macken : ok thanks, ill let you know if it works
[17:59] <macken> petsounds>firefox3.5 can still do funny things. As a test use epiphany. It usually works not matter what.
[18:01] <petsounds> macken : i guess so.. idk about epiphany but ill give it a shot and also i try several browser like opera and G chrome, but the problem still exist.
[18:03] <macken> petsounds> if you don't get it post your hardware and problem in the forum. I don't have an answer, never had a java problem.
[18:05] <petsounds> macken : of course ive posted this problem in the forumm but the people in there are less responsive than irc people. :D
[18:07] <d-eee> what it do?  any ideas which filter to choose to properly open a pdf file in kwrd?
[18:09] <Dotan> please kde help us and vote to fix panel rtl problem , https://bugs.kde.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=187406#vote_187406
[18:10] <genii> !ot | Dotan
[18:11] <Dotan> its in topic
[18:11] <Dotan> just help with kde problems
[18:11] <Dotan> if you dont want to help just say nothing
[18:11] <genii> Dotan: It's not a Kubuntu support issue and so not on-topic.
[18:12] <d-eee> pdf files and wild styles, ya dig?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> d-eee, http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/47307?theme=print
[18:21] <oobe> does anyone know how to make x start on runlevel 4 or 5 now upstart has taken over my system it starts on run level 3 which of course is bad
[18:21] <d-eee> BluesKaj:  thanks, is it a problem with the disabled xpdf engine?
[18:21] <Tm_T> oobe: what's the difference between runlevel 3 and 4 or 5 in this case?
[18:23] <genii> oobe: Runlevels 2,3,4, and 5 are not different from each other on Debian and *buntu
[18:24] <Tm_T> genii: he left already
[18:25] <Andreas1234> hi!how can I rm a file in an ntsf partition with ubuntu?
[18:25] <genii> Tm_T: Thats what i get for starting a reply and then finishing it minutes later without looking if the recipient is still around
[18:25] <gaurav> Kontact documentation seems to be missing, pressing F1 in Kontact gives me the following error. "The file or folder help:/kmail/index.html does not exist."
[18:25] <Tm_T> genii: ye (:
[18:25] <Andreas1234> I mean a soemhow write protected file
[18:27] <genii> oobe: Runlevels 2,3,4, and 5 are not different from each other on Debian and *buntu. Effectively there is only 0 (halt) 1 (single user) 2,3,4,5 (multi user) 6 (reboot)
[18:27] <Andreas1234> 'rm -Rf WINDOWS/' tells me operation not supported
[18:28] <oobe> genii, thanks nvidia drivers told me to change to run level 3 when i tried it tryed to startx which froze my pc so i installed the drivers in runlevel 1 against warnings
[18:29] <Tm_T> oobe: hmm, reason why you didn't install drivers from ubuntu repositories?
[18:30] <oobe> cause i do things differently
[18:30] <Tm_T> roger
[18:30] <slawcio> oobe: your nick is from 'out of body experience'?
[18:30] <maco> do you consider that a good reason?
[18:30] <oobe> infact i dont like most of the thing *buntu is doing these days and each upgrade takes a lot of work to make my system acceptable
[18:31] <petsounds> macken : it's work with openJDK.. :)
[18:31] <genii> oobe: The usual practice would be to go to the KDM or GDM login screen and choose "console login" option, from there stop even the login manager with sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop         do the nvidia stuff which requires X to be stopped while doing it, then restart the login manager
[18:31] <oobe> slawcio, no its just oobe it can stand for that or out of box experience
[18:31] <slawcio> hehe
[18:31] <oobe> genii, yeah thats what i usually do but for some reason it would freeze this time
[18:32] <genii> oobe: Some installs require to load the kernel driver as well before restarting the login manager
[18:32] <macken> petsounds>good. whatever it takes to get the cat skinned. Good job
[18:33] <omar> good afternoon guys i need some guide i have a laptop compaq nx6120 and i want to buy a webcam what would be the best option?
[18:33] <oobe> genii, its all good now
[18:34] <omar> so any one genii right?
[18:34] <oobe> omar, there is hardware guides on the ubuntu site
[18:34] <omar> is there any other option just in case i cant find that mark?
[18:34] <genii> !hcl
[18:35] <Tm_T> omar: any webcam that is known to work with linux, see link above
[18:35] <omar> txs guys a lot
[18:36] <antlarr> hmmm
[18:36] <antlarr> it seems the nvidia 190 solved the problem with freezes
[18:36] <genii> antlarr: Good :)
[18:37] <antlarr> and nm-applet (the gnome networkmanager applet :( ) solved the problem of knetworkmanager not connecting
[18:38] <antlarr> genii: thanks for your suggestions before
[18:38] <genii> antlarr: You're welcome
[18:41] <Andreas1234> nobody has an idea on how to delete that directory?
[18:41] <Tm_T> Andreas1234: why you would like to remove windows dir in ntfs?
[18:42] <Andreas1234> T,_T I wanna rm everything
[18:42] <Tm_T> Andreas1234: the whole partition?
[18:43] <Andreas1234> yes. I was on Windows before. Now  I'm doing mv oldpartition to backup and then I wanna delete it. in order to get more space for my linux partition
[18:43] <jorginno> hola
[18:43] <Andreas1234> getting the error also with the mv command
[18:44] <jorginno> can anybody help me?
[18:44] <slawcio> of course
[18:44] <jorginno> I have a phillips tv instaled on my pc, but i get new on kubuntu 9.10, how can i get it back to serve me
[18:45] <slawcio> i dont know :)
[18:45] <jorginno> on windows xp, it functioned ok
[18:45] <jorginno> but linux dosn't
[18:46] <m4rtin> Andreas1234: firstly; you aren't installed from inside Wubi are you?
[18:46] <m4rtin> Andreas1234: secondly, if you want to nuke the partition, use a gparted live CD where you can make it blank space and then resize
[18:51] <d-eee_> sorry, battery on the laptop went out
[18:51] <ulli> what is this here_
[18:57] <Andreas1234> m4rtin: no, no wubi stuff. normal installation into an ext3 partition
[18:58] <Andreas1234> still I think it's strnage that even being root it does not permit me to delte it with rm -f
[18:58] <Andreas1234> but, i'll do it with gparted then.
[18:58] <m4rtin> Andreas1234: hang on: you are using lowercase "r" right?
[18:59] <m4rtin> sudo rm -rf Windows
[18:59] <Andreas1234> R
[18:59] <Andreas1234> oh, no I tired with upper case
[18:59] <Andreas1234> tried*
[18:59] <m4rtin> shouldn't make a different
[18:59] <m4rtin> *difference
[18:59] <m4rtin> v. odd
[19:00] <Tm_T> Andreas1234: it makes more sense to format the partition, lot quicker, if you really want to get them all out
[19:00] <Andreas1234> same result "Operation not supported"
[19:00] <m4rtin> I'm with Tm_T on that
[19:00] <m4rtin> but it's still odd
[19:00] <Andreas1234> yeah, maybe as ntsf is from windows they have implemented some odd tricks so that even ntsf3g cannot rm it
[19:01] <Andreas1234> I'll format
[19:01] <m4rtin> be careful with gparted ;)
[19:01] <jcanada> I am confused - I thought kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron was LTS???
[19:01] <Mamarok> jcanada: not the KDE part
[19:02] <jcanada> hmm
[19:02] <Andreas1234> thx
[19:02] <jcanada> does anyone know anything about the 9.10 kde 3 remix?
[19:03] <Mamarok> there should be a passage in the release announcement on http://kubuntu.org
[19:03] <jcanada> will it get all the updates karmic users would normally get, except for kde 3?
[19:03] <Mamarok> did you read that?
[19:03] <Mamarok> jcanada: the underlying stuff like kernel and such, yes
[19:05] <jcanada> will I continue to get kernel updates and such with 8.04?
[19:05] <Mamarok> jcanada: yes, since it is LTS, as I said, it's only the KDE3 part that is not supported by us anymore
[19:06] <Mamarok> be aware that KDE 3 is not maintained anymore, so if there are security problems you are on your own there
[19:07] <genii> jcanada: You should take up those questions with the fellow providing that image at Pearson Computing
[19:07] <genii> (9.04/9.10 with KDE3 )
[19:08] <jcanada> yeah...I subscribed to the mailing list, but didn't get any reply and haven't heard anything yet, so maybe should find out if I"m really subscribed
[19:08] <Mamarok> jcanada: see here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic
[19:08] <Quintasan> jcanada: kb9vqf is the guy you are looking for
[19:08] <Quintasan> #kubuntu-devel
[19:09] <jcanada> bewho is this guy quintasan?
[19:09] <tzanger> good morning; I'm trying to get Kubuntu 9.10 to print to pdf; the option is there, but I cannot change the page size from A4 (it is grayed out) -- why is this?
[19:10] <Quintasan> jcanada: AFAIK this guy is the one who started working on KDE3 Remix
[19:10] <jcanada> excellent!  thank you
[19:11] <tehkx> Plasma-desktop does not want to start when I use any style that is not Oxygen, any ideas?
[19:11] <Mamarok> tehkx: which style?
[19:11] <tehkx> Cleanlooks, klearlooks, bespin, and my personal favorite qtcurve
[19:12] <jcanada> is it common understanding that there is no chance of kde 3.5.11?
[19:12] <Mamarok> jcanada: the KDE developers do not maitain it anymore, for most of the parts, no
[19:12] <Mamarok> jcanada: read the wiki page I gave you, please
[19:13] <Mamarok> jcanada: and you shoult at least fire up a live CD and have a look at KDE 4.3.2 to know what you miss
[19:13] <Mamarok> should*
[19:13] <jcanada> yeah, that's true, it might have been 4.1 I tried last..
[19:13] <Mamarok> tehkx: qtcurve is not a plasma style
[19:14] <tehkx> I understand that, I am using the air style. I mean qt style.
[19:14] <antlarr> jcanada: indeed, 4.3.2 is really a lot better and more stable than 4.1
[19:14] <Mamarok> wrong, not a plsma theme
[19:14] <tehkx> If I set my qt style in System settings plasma-desktop crashes on load
[19:15] <antlarr> but that talk about kde3 reminds me, that taskjuggler needs kdepimlibs from kde3 to get all its functionality, and since kde3 is no longer included, taskjuggler doesn't have ical support which is a pity
[19:15] <Mamarok> tehkx: qtcurve is just a compatibility layer for GTK applications, not a plasma theme
[19:15] <Quintasan> antlarr: mind coming to #kubuntu-devel for a second
[19:15] <Quintasan> ?
[19:16] <antlarr> sure
[19:16] <tehkx> Mamarok: but it is a qt style correct? So how to I ask plasma to use oxygen and let all my other qt apps use the qtcurve style?
[19:17] <jcanada> I think it might even be on the 9.10 remix I have (kde 4.3 that is), I might have to restart and check that out
[19:17] <Mamarok> tehkx: no, idea, sorry
[19:17] <tehkx> qtcurve is meant to be used on its own, not just in gtk-engines-qtcurve form, since it is a style
[19:18] <tehkx> Thanks anyway, gonna jump around and find a solution :/
[19:18] <jcanada> good news!  I found an archive of that kde3 remix mailing list - I was not subscribed
[19:20] <VanessaE> question:  In kde3.5 there was a panel type for windowmaker dockapps.  Is there any such thing in KDE4?
[19:20] <jcanada> I think I like the side-by-side idea of the 9.10 remix, because I'd really like to use Amarok 2 for instance, and I can try 4.3 fully.  My problem with kde4 has been that I found it slower on my older hardware
[19:21] <Quintasan> jcanada: what are the specs of the older machine?
[19:22] <jcanada> athlon xp laptop
[19:22] <Quintasan> jcanada: I used a very dirty workaround, kill plasma-desktop and replace it with *box + tint2
[19:22] <Quintasan> jcanada: worked fine :P
[19:23] <jcanada> 1.5ghz , 946 (?) MB RAM
[19:23] <Quintasan> jcanada: should work, at least it was working in mine case
[19:23] <Quintasan> jcanada: amd athlon 1.8 768 MB RAM :P
[19:23] <jcanada> can I replace plasma with kdm or whatever?
[19:23] <jcanada> hehe!
[19:24] <Quintasan> jcanada: kdm is the login window, plasma-desktop is the desktop you see
[19:24] <Quintasan> if you kill plasma-desktop you can still run apps via krunner (alt+f2), I used to kill it, then run fluxbox and tint2
[19:24] <jcanada> by *box did you mean fluxbox or something like that?
[19:24] <Quintasan> yeah
[19:25] <jcanada> because I thought there was a kde component, forgot what its called, that is the kde window manager (and I'm not certain about nomenclature here)
[19:26] <antlarr> jcanada: kwin ?
[19:26] <tehkx_> I am having an issue with using bespin, qtcurve, klearlooks, cleanlooks, or any non oxygen style. On login plasma-desktop crashes to a black screen. It works fine if I use oxygen though. http://pastebin.com/m1f66f02b
[19:27] <jcanada> thats what I meant!
[19:27] <antlarr> you don't have to kill a window manager, just run the new one with --replace
[19:27] <antlarr> I think most window managers support that parameter
[19:28] <Quintasan> yeah, but I bet that plasma works the slowest for him :P
[19:28] <antlarr> hm, right :)
[19:28] <bbeck> I used to have a line in my sources.list file under Jaunty for amarok-nighly.  I haven't been able to set it up for Karmic, does anyone know how to do it?
[19:29] <jcanada> I'm thinking I will play with KDE4 more
[19:31] <jcanada> what started me on this was realizing that I would no longer get kde updates, yet realizing that we have a windows xp computer at work that still gets updates, and I know resources are an issue, but I thought there was a strong "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" sort of strain of thought in the linux world, so....long story short, restarting the computer for winXP updates at work tonight made me sad  :/
[19:35] <jcanada> oh well, I could use an excuse for a new computer, too.  Thanks for your help guys!
[19:36] <bbeck> Ah, I see the problem there's no karmic repository for amarok-nightly.
[19:38] <amgarchIn9> hi, everybody! Those of you who have installed Kubuntu 9.10 from scratch, which login manager do you get un start up. GDM or KDM? There is something realy broken about their cooperation.
[19:39] <amgarchIn9> in my installation at least
[19:39] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: Kubuntu installs KDM by default
[19:40] <inspiron630> best way to burn an iso in linux
[19:41] <amgarchIn9> Tm_T:  is then gdm installed by default on kubuntu? dpkg -l gdm
[19:41] <jcanada> inspiron:  k3b is great!
[19:41] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: no, Kubuntu doesn't install GDM by default
[19:42] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: user ofcourse can install it later on
[19:42] <amgarchIn9> Tm_T:  so this may be the reason their staying in the way of each other was not largely exposed.
[19:43] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: possibly
[19:43] <micmord> in Kubuntu (or more in general KDE 4.x) which piece of software can I use to record voice from input line like a microphone?
[19:43] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: wouldn't make any sense to have them both there by default
[19:44] <amgarchIn9> Tm_T: "dpkg-recofigure gdm" used to work before to switch between the two. Now doesnt.
[19:44] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: shame I cannot help on that, have you searched bug reports?
[19:45] <amgarchIn9> Tm_T: can you confirm gdm is not installed on your system? I am going to try to remove it and see what happens.
[19:46] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: I don't have Karmic installed, but if I had, I would know what is installed and I'm 100 % sure GDM is not installed in Kubuntu by default
[19:46] <Tm_T> wouldn't make any sense in my mind
[19:46] <tehkx_> can plasma work with any style other than oxygen?
[19:47] <tehkx_> qt style that is
[19:47] <Tm_T> tehkx_: should
[19:48] <tehkx_> gah it is as bad as I though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/433028 I would think a bug like this would be a show stopper
[19:49] <Tm_T> tehkx_: let's see...
[19:50] <tehkx_> plasma-desktop just refuses to reload with kleer or cleanlooks. I just doesnt make sense.
[19:51] <tehkx_> It works with cde, and oxygen
[19:52] <tehkx_> wait it doesnt even work with cde, just oxygen
[19:53] <tehkx_> perhaps it is this microblogging thing kubuntu throws on my desktop
[19:54] <Tm_T> tehkx_: could be, try without it
[19:54] <tehkx_> Well, there it is.
[19:55] <tehkx_> Talk about a simple problem being released. Here is what was happening. The microblogging thing kubuntu has on the desktop by default has a button that says "Configure".
[19:58] <pierre3> Hi, is there a way to enable the delete key, ctrl-left and right on the mysql client console? since some updates those prints 3D; 3C; anyone have the same problem? thanks
[20:07] <clustermagnet> hey gents, installing 9.1.  question is... the installer is not giving me the option to setup LVM2...
[20:07] <clustermagnet> what am i missing :)
[20:07] <clustermagnet> thanks!
[20:08] <clustermagnet> anyone?  bueler? :)  how can i use lvm in kubuntu? or is that just simply not an option at install time?
[20:09] <clustermagnet> oh crap, kubuntu cant do it :(
[20:09] <clustermagnet> just googled
[20:09] <clustermagnet> well .. wtf people
[20:09] <befree> hi!
[20:09] <maco> clustermagnet: use the alternate cd
[20:09] <maco> !alternate
[20:10] <clustermagnet> maco: thanks!!!
[20:11] <clustermagnet> maco: you just saved me some time :) thanks!
[20:13] <Mandingo-Iphone> Is there a way to reduce the mount activity on my xfs drives I think that is causing my stuttering during video playback
[20:14] <dreno> Hi, how do I import settings file into compiz?
[20:16] <oguzhan> merhaba
[20:16] <oguzhan> cucullar
[20:17] <amgarchIn9> so people, there is a version of gdm package already in karmic-proposed that does not respect user choice between kdm/gdm. It seems to trying to start gdm uncoditionally. There is a race between the two (if kde was chosen). Kdm does not always win.
[20:18] <GreekGroove> Hi all, how can I create/update fuse-utils and libfuse2 package to get installable deb packages of the latest version of fuse (2.8)?
[20:19] <amgarchIn9> I just downgraded gdm to 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 (karmic plain) from *2 (karmic-proposed) and now my dpkg-reconfigure gdm/kdm is respected.
[20:20] <amgarchIn9> How do we proceed in such case. This update breaks installtions that have bothe kubuntu- and ubuntu-desktops installed
[20:20] <amgarchIn9> ?
[20:30] <amgarchIn9> submitted bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/481537
[20:31] <EvilRoey> Riddell:  heya again
[20:31] <EvilRoey> Riddell:  did you manage to update/dist-upgrade and verify this udev problem?
[20:35] <marc__> bonsoir, je viens d'installer kubuntu 9.1. Pas de raccourcies clavier pour les changements de bureau ?
[20:36] <Tm_T> !fr
[20:38] <Ahox_> Hi, is there a native voip client for KDE?
[20:38] <marc__> Hello, i installed Kubuntu 9.1, no shortcut for changing desktop ?
[20:41] <Ahox_> marc__, what do you mean with that?
[20:41] <Ahox_> Do you want to use gnome now?
[20:43] <marc__> to change desktop with the keyboard : alt+Ctr+arrow don't work
[20:43] <marc__> but i'm a newbee on kde
[20:44] <Ahox_> marc__ I see, kubuntu has only one desktop by default
[20:44] <marc__> I configure to have 4 desktops
[20:45] <marc__> only to have cube rotation effect, but it doesn't work
[20:46] <Ahox_> you can set the keyboard shortcut in the system settings / Keyboard & Mouse / Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:46] <Ahox_> then pick KWin and Next Desktop
[20:47] <marc__> ok i try, thanks
[20:47] <Ahox_> Ctrl+F1... should work, too
[20:48] <marc__> ok thanks Ctrl+F1-4 it's perfect for me
[20:49] <marc__> i activated cube on 3D effecte but i doesn't work. An idea ?
[20:50] <Ahox_> Have you activated the cube effects, too?
[20:50] <Ahox_> and I assume your 3D effects work in general ;-)
[20:51] <marc__> Yes the 3d effects works
[20:51] <marc__> I check witch option is enabled
[20:51] <Ahox_> So you should have Desktop Cube and Desktop Cube Animation
[20:52] <Ahox_> Actually, what happens if you press Ctrl+F11?
[20:53] <marc__> Ctrl F11 make the desktop smaller
[20:53] <Ahox_> Press Ctrl+F11 and the click the mouse and move it
[20:53] <Ahox_> This should be your cube
[20:53] <marc__> Yesssss,   ok thanks
[20:54] <marc__> is it possible to have the same effect with CTrl+Alt+mouse ?
[20:54] <Ahox_> I am not sure, maybe with mouse gestures and a dbus call?
[20:55] <marc__> ok, i forget for the moment. CTrl is not really ergonomic
[20:57] <marc__> thanks a lot @Ahox
[21:04] <r0bert> hi there
[21:04] <r0bert> will kde 4.3.3 be available for karmic anytime soon?
[21:04] <Ahox_> It already is
[21:04] <r0bert> or does one have to add that backport-ppa?
[21:04] <r0bert> it is?
[21:05] <Ahox_> its in the ppa archives
[21:05] <r0bert> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/kde/kdebase
[21:05] <Ahox_> so my answer is kind of true
[21:05] <r0bert> says 4.3.2
[21:05] <r0bert> ye.
[21:05] <Ahox_> add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main" to your packages
[21:07] <Ahox_> or just add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa in kpackagekit
[21:08] <r0bert> is adept still kubuntu's graphical packet management toll?
[21:08] <Ahox_> luckily not. Its KPackageKit
[21:09] <r0bert> k
[21:14] <Newbee> hello
[21:15] <Newbee> does anyone know wheter it is planed to release KDE 4.3.3 as an official bug fix for karmic or if the kubuntu team only provides inofficial packages through their ppa?
[21:17] <tingle-tangle> #exaile
[21:18] <gisele> alguém do Br ?
[21:18] <gisele> Brazil ?
[21:19] <|moe|> !br
[21:19] <|moe|> no hablo poruges
[21:19] <gisele> www.orkut.com.br
[21:20] <r0bert> ssssssh |moe|, dont make irc-ppl with hot sounding names go away! <:
[21:20] <|moe|> r0bert: lol - nice one!
[21:28] <lorecaster> Back I am again with my NFS challenges. anyone willing to give me a hand?
[21:28] <lorecaster> i've got 2-hours this time :P
[21:31] <marc__> i'm back, the sound of my laptop is really low on kubuntu. There is some way to correct this ?
[21:33] <roberto___> salve a tutti
[21:36] <clustermagnet> maco, perfect, installer worked great, thank you
[21:36] <maco> np
[21:36] <clustermagnet> maco do you mind answeing an nvidia config issue? :)
[21:37] <clustermagnet> dual screen setup... would love to configure both monitors, however nvidia-settings isnt working properly for me
[21:37] <clustermagnet> how do you guys change your desktop settings :)
[21:37] <lukas> hello, i have installed ubuntu 9.10. i can remeber a pop up which asked for commercial driver in 9.04. How do I activate it in 9.10?
[21:38] <Ahox_> lukas, its the Hardware Drivers Program, just type those two words in the krunner (Alt+F2)
[21:39] <clustermagnet> the actual problem is i cant save the nvidia-settings to /etc/X11/config... i'll dig around though :)
[21:39] <clustermagnet> maco thanks for the heads up with lvm though :)
[21:39] <clustermagnet> i was like... really?  no lvm
[21:39] <maco> clustermagnet: i dont use nvidia, just intel, so no idea
[21:39] <llutz> clustermagnet: write it to file, copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[21:39] <Ahox_> clustermagnet, try to run it with sudo
[21:39] <lorecaster> any of the new speakers familiar with NFS?
[21:39] <lukas> Ahox_: is it jockey-gtk? i have ubuntu and thus no krunner.
[21:39] <maco> er, there is no xorg.conf in 9.10 by default
[21:39] <maco> oh copy *to*
[21:39] <maco> right
[21:40] <maco> i should learn to read :)
[21:40] <Ahox_> lukas, I have no idea, maybe #ubuntu can help you
[21:40] <lukas> ok sry
[21:41] <Ahox_> lorecaster: NFS as in filesystem?
[21:42] <lorecaster> as in shares
[21:42] <Ahox_> sure, what's the problem?
[21:48] <Xiella> I can't load kubuntu (karmic).  I was able to get past the grub loading screen but now it reads [drm:intelfb_restore] *ERROR* Failed to restore crtc configuration -22.  How do I load kubuntu graphically?
[21:49] <Ahox_> Xiella, this sounds like your xorg.conf is borked
[21:49] <genii> intel framebuffer for console
[21:49] <Ahox_> boot into rescue mode and select fix X server
[21:49] <Xiella> Ahox_: Do you mean selecting the 'safe mode' option at the grub loading screen?
[21:50] <Ahox_> yes
[21:50] <Xiella> Ahox_: I see a recovery menu but none of them is select fix X server
[21:51] <lorecaster> sorry Ahox_, my problem is that even though i did a recursive chmod and chown to both folders, they are shared through the gui and samba works fine... but one folder works, the other does not.
[21:51] <lorecaster> i'll do whatever you think could help, command-for-command :P
[21:51] <pookito777>  <pookito777> I use to have Kubuntu now that I decided to switch to Sabayon 5.0 I had my /home in a separate partition.  Now that I have sabayon mount that partition I can not have access to my old directory because it is encrypted.  when I go to the folder as root I find Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and it is not allowing me.  I was asked in the sabayon irc to ask kubuntu irc how is the directory encrypted?  Please help
[21:52] <Ahox_> Xiella, sorry I don't have a 2nd pc right here to check the precise commands, can you try a root console and then mv the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to somewhere else and reboot?
[21:52] <Ahox_> lorecaster: wait, are we talking about NFS or Samba?
[21:53] <Xiella> Ahox_: Sorry: the options are clean, dpkg, grub, netroot (Drop to root shell prompt with networking) and root (Drop to root shell prompt).  I guess I should choose root
[21:53] <Ahox_> Xiella: root sounds good
[21:53] <Ahox_> netroot should work, too...
[21:54] <Xiella> Ahox_: Thanks.  Can I move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf just anywhere?
[21:54] <Ahox_> yes, I would recommend just renaming it to xorg.conf.old or so
[21:55] <Xiella> Ahox_: whoa
[21:55] <Ahox_> ?
[21:55] <clustermagnet> maco: in kubuntu... how does one enable 3d desktop? :)
[21:55] <Xiella> Ahox_: Oh, I didn't type sudo.  It says "mv: cannot stat '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' : no such file or directory
[21:55] <clustermagnet> do you have to install compiz via apt-get?
[21:55] <maco> clustermagnet: kwin has 3d stuff built in
[21:55] <maco> clustermagnet: kickoff menu -> systemsettings -> desktop
[21:56] <Ahox_> mhm, this is possible and actually the default - X11 can be run configless
[21:56] <clustermagnet> maco: i've been away from the 3d desktop world ... so compiz is what people use these days?
[21:56] <clustermagnet> there used to be berryl
[21:56] <Ahox_> so that's not the problem then
[21:56] <maco> clustermagnet: beryl was a compiz fork. they remerged into compiz-fusion. kwin, in the meantime, acquired many of its most exciting features
[21:57] <Ahox_> clustermagnet: systemsettings / Desktop / Enable Desktop Effects
[21:57] <Ahox_> Xiella, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[21:58] <Xiella> Ahox_: Can you explain to me how to do that?  I'm still in root in safe mode.
[21:58] <Ahox_> good point, you need netroot for that
[21:59] <Xiella> Ahox_: How do I get back to the selection menu to get to netroot?
[21:59] <Ahox_> just reboot
[21:59] <Xiella> Ahox_: Ah, thank you, doing that now
[22:00] <Xiella> Ahox_: Alright, I am in netroot now.  How should I post my /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[22:00] <Ahox_> Thought, I have to leave now, sorry. You can upload the file by installing the package pastebinit and then run # pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:01] <Xiella> Ahox_: Ah! I type "# pastebinit [address]" after installing it?
[22:01] <Ahox_> maybe someone else can take over? Yes, I am talking to you, pack of 310
[22:01] <Ahox_> well, withouth the #
[22:01] <Ahox_> and then just post the output from the script
[22:01] <Ahox_> but i really have to go now, good luck
[22:01] <Xiella> Ahox_: Oh, okay.  Thank you lots in the meantime.  I think i'll need someone to help me.
[22:01] <Xiella> Ahox_: Thanks.
[22:09] <lorecaster> sorry back... ahox left... this is fate i can tell.
[22:10] <Blommpfer> Hello. I have a lot of old programs and stuff accumulated since Jaunty in my KDE file associations list...I'd like to delete it...which files do I need to delete to reset it to system defaults?
[22:10] <lorecaster> but to answer ahox' question, either through samba or NFS... as long as the share works.
[22:11] <clustermagnet> guys, how do you start the micro-blog app again? :)
[22:11] <clustermagnet> thanks!
[22:13] <marc__> ok bye, thanks for the informations
[22:17] <Flootenkerp> Hi, does anyone here use mupen64? I want to get that running, but the screen just goes dark when I start emulation.
[22:19] <Blommpfer> Maybe rephrasing it: Where does KDE store per-user file association data?
[22:20] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: all users stuff is in /home/user
[22:20] <Mamarok> and its subdirectories
[22:20] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: Yes...yes that is right. But I need that specific file or set of files rather :P
[22:21] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: if you want system defaults with no user data at all, move or erase ~/.kde/
[22:21] <Blommpfer> I don't want to wipe out the entire KDE data folder due to other configurations that would be a mess to recover.
[22:21] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: be aware that you will loose a lot of date if you erase that, like all mails from kmail, etc
[22:21] <Blommpfer> So that's why I just want to reset associations.
[22:21] <Mamarok> what associations are you talking about?
[22:21] <Blommpfer> Ah...well.
[22:22] <carpii> i think its in $HOME/.kde/share or something
[22:22] <carpii> i seem to remember editing a file for assocs ages ago
[22:22] <Blommpfer> System settings > advanced tab >file associations
[22:22] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: you mean configuration stuff? that's in ~/.kde/share/config/
[22:23] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: but file associations are not users specific
[22:23] <Blommpfer> Yes, but which are the specific files for this, do you know?
[22:23] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: isn't there a default reset button ?
[22:23]  * Mamarok checks
[22:23] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: In a way yes, I used several things since KDE4.0 came out and some are obsoleted or would take ages to reorder so I prefer that.
[22:23] <Blommpfer> There is, but never did anything.
[22:24] <Blommpfer> Unless it was magically fixed this month let me see just in case.
[22:24] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: just erase that folder, it will reset all configuration stuff
[22:24] <Mamarok> it doesn't erase mail or such, just configuration
[22:24] <Blommpfer> No it doesn't work, still grayed out xD
[22:24] <Mamarok> let me see...
[22:25] <Blommpfer> Yes that's what I want to do, but I wanted to know the specific files that set those user settings over defaults.
[22:25] <Mamarok> you mean specifically the file associations? that can only be done by the admin
[22:25] <Blommpfer> I am the admin.
[22:25] <Mamarok> so start the sytemsettings with 'kdesudo systemsettings' and you will have the rights
[22:26] <Blommpfer> With kdesu? It will then make me root user, not my normal use usr.
[22:26] <Mamarok> no, kdesudo, read what I wrote above
[22:27] <Blommpfer> typo
[22:27] <Flootenkerp> Does anyone here run mupen64? I want to get it running, but the screen just blacks up when I start emulation and nothing happens. Does anyone know the issue?
[22:27] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: you as a user are not admin, you only get admin rights when running stuff with sudo (or kdesudo for GUI applications)
[22:27] <Mamarok> Flootenkerp: sorry, don't even know what that is
[22:27] <Blommpfer> A nintendo 64 emulator.
[22:27] <Flootenkerp> nintendo 64 emulator for linux
[22:27] <Flootenkerp> Yeah
[22:28] <Mamarok> never uses that, sorry
[22:28] <Flootenkerp> k
[22:29] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: Anyway, I know the basics up to "coding OSS stuff" so I just need to know which files to delete without deleting the whole folder. Do you know them, then?
[22:29] <Blommpfer> Flootenkerp: Sorry, I know it but haven't used it since 2004 or so...
[22:29] <Flootenkerp> it's fine, I'll try their forums
[22:30] <Blommpfer> Anyway it might be the video plugin not configured right.
[22:30] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: you still want to reset the file associations?
[22:30] <Blommpfer> Or you can try, just in case, disabling kwin compositing and see if it shows something.
[22:30] <Blommpfer> You can suspend it with alt+shift+f12 IIRC
[22:31] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: Yes. I have things that have been here for years or programs that are deprecated in favor of others and so...I can manually configure it, but it would take at least a few hours xD
[22:31] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: then do what I told you above: kdesudo systemsettings and set the file associations to default
[22:32] <Blommpfer> So I thought that I'd just clean them up and just add the new ones while having the rest to system, which is what deleting the files will do.
[22:33] <Mamarok> *sigh* then you will have to have a look at the config folder and look at the file names, those are self-explaing usually
[22:33] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: Nope, it logs me as root with root's associations.
[22:34] <Mamarok> I don't really have time to look that up and it would take me as much time as it takes you :) resetting the file associations to default with the above methode works
[22:34] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: *sigh* I give up
[22:34] <Blommpfer> No because I don't use my file browser as root, but as another user.
[22:34] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: for the third time, if you want to reset the file associations, do as I said above
[22:35] <Mamarok> only root can do that, not the user
[22:35] <Blommpfer> And I did and I appear in an unthemed config window that is root's.
[22:35] <Mamarok> how difficult is that to understand?
[22:35] <Mamarok> did you even try?
[22:35] <Blommpfer> OK, do it and tell me what you see.
[22:35] <Blommpfer> Of course, but it logs me as root because that is what kdesudo does.
[22:36] <Blommpfer> Want a screenshot? I am not lying.
[22:36] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: I know, but you need to be root to reset to default settings!
[22:36] <Mamarok> that's the 4th time I tell you
[22:36] <Blommpfer> To reset my USER settings? No, I need to do it as that specific user.
[22:37] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: you were asking for the file associations
[22:37] <Blommpfer> Yeah, but those are stored within /home/myuser/.kde , not /root/.kde
[22:37] <Blommpfer> I don't want to alter system defaults.
[22:37] <Mamarok> well, then search your ~/.kde/share/config folder, it's in there and I don't know that by heart, never did that
[22:38] <Mamarok> as I said, the file names are self explaining, somethingrc, open those ( those are text files) and have a look)
[22:38] <kblin> hi folks
[22:39] <Blommpfer> I mean, it kind of bothers me, as that advice you were giving me was something that would really confuse a newbie. Someone not knowing how users work would just do it and find nothing changed then say "linux sucks" and call it a day.
[22:39] <kblin> is there a way to make 9.10 reboot the box when I select "reboot" that will allow me to touch the grub prompt?
[22:39] <adaptr> kblin: you can always access the grub prompt
[22:40] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: well, for a newsbie, setting thigs to system defaults means erasing the ~.kde/share/config/ folder and restarting KDE, as simple as that
[22:40] <Mamarok> -s
[22:40] <lorecaster> NFS for file sharing anyone? lookin to sort out some permission errors... i'm not green, but this bugger is illusive
[22:40] <Blommpfer> And there goes his mail and contacts.
[22:40] <kblin> adaptr: no, if I hit reboot in my 9.10, I see the "shutting down" bootsplash thing, then my monitor switches to black for a second or two, and then I'm back at the "booting" bootsplash
[22:41] <Blommpfer> Or custom window settings or so. Another "linux sucks" reaction that would cause.
[22:41] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: not at all, the mails are not in the config folder, those are in the apps folder
[22:41] <adaptr> kblin: hit ESC when it goes black, your monitor simply isn't fast enough
[22:41] <kblin> aha
[22:41] <Blommpfer> Remember .kde was mentioned first.
[22:41] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: well, sorry, but I am tired and don't have the patience tonight for that, talk to someone else
[22:41] <kblin> adaptr: but usually I have a 10s timeout
[22:41] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: read the backlog, I said "move", not erase, and gave a warning
[22:41] <adaptr> kblin: on Ubuntu ? it's been a few seconds for ages
[22:42] <kblin> adaptr: not if you have a dual boot setup, I'm pretty sure about having ten seconds
[22:42] <Blommpfer> It's not like an average user knows how to dissect that huge folder and put stuff back into the new one.
[22:42] <adaptr> kblin: then you need to edit you rmenu.lst and put it back the way it was
[22:42]  * Mamarok has better things to do
[22:43] <Blommpfer> Hey I am not upset or anything, just discussing.
[22:43] <kblin> adaptr: but I'm only seeing this when I hit reboot in kde
[22:43] <Mamarok> Blommpfer: and that has nothing to do in this channel, discussions belong to -offtopic, read the topic
[22:43] <kblin> if I just boot normally, I have the prompt
[22:44] <Blommpfer> Mamarok: Oops. Understood, ahem. Sorry.
[22:44] <adaptr> kblin: difference between cold boot and warm boot, then
[22:44] <kblin> yeah, I guess so
[22:45] <kblin> but that only came up after updating to 9.10, so I was wondering what was causing this
[22:45] <kblin> it's a bit annoying :)
[22:45] <r00t_ninja> grub2?
[22:45] <frederic_> hello
[22:46] <kblin> nope, as I said, I upgraded from 9.04, system stays at grub1 then
[22:46] <adaptr> kblin: 9.10 uses a new version of grub, so all bets, they be off
[22:46] <adaptr> ah
[22:47] <kblin> I'm being a selfish bastard and prefer to let other people find the grub2 and ext4 bugs first befor switching myself :)
[22:53] <harjot_> how would i extract a frame from an mpeg?
[22:57] <Flootenkerp> Does anyone here know a good linux emulator for NES?
[22:58] <spossible> Ho problemi con kmail e akonadi qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[22:58] <Mamarok> !it | spossible
[22:59] <spossible> thank you
[22:59] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[23:00] <Flootenkerp> So, anyone know a good NES emulator for linux?
[23:00] <Mamarok> Flootenkerp: apparently no, you are asking since hours now :) Maybe a game channel would be more appropriate
[23:01] <Flootenkerp> What game channels are on this server?
[23:02] <Mamarok> Flootenkerp: no idea, sorry, but there is also google which is a good source for information about that I guess
[23:02] <Mamarok> you do know that the package name is mupen64plus, do you?
[23:02] <Flootenkerp> Nope.
[23:02] <Mamarok> I found that with 'aptitude search mupen64
[23:03] <Flootenkerp> I actually instlled no plugins or anything, I just downloaded it and tried running it, which worked, but failed
[23:03] <Mamarok> hm, since I never used it and don't have appropriate games I can't test, sorry
[23:03] <Flootenkerp> but failed emulating, that is.
[23:03] <Flootenkerp> That's fine.
[23:04] <Mamarok> well, the only game emulator I use is scummvm for two games, that's it
[23:04] <r00t_ninja> whats up with usplash in ubuntu 9.10
[23:04] <Flootenkerp> Do you know what this instruction means for this linux nes emulator? You must use root to open SVGALIB ...don't forget !!!
[23:04] <r00t_ninja> the bar loads to slow
[23:04] <Mamarok> Flootenkerp: not really, no, as I said, never used that
[23:05] <Flootenkerp> k, thought it was an obvious thing I missed.
[23:05] <Mamarok> Flootenkerp: I found this website, might have more informations: http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/
[23:06] <Flootenkerp> k thanks
[23:07] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[23:07] <lorecaster> hey r00t_ninja, think you can throw me a bone with some NFS or Samba?
[23:08]  * Mamarok is off for tonight, good night everyone
[23:08] <r00t_ninja> ok
[23:08] <Flootenkerp> Night
[23:09] <klebezettel> hiya
[23:09] <klebezettel> kubuntu doesn't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[23:09] <klebezettel> wanted to copy some lines because I installed opensuse too, an kubuntu is not listed :/
[23:11] <Mamarok> klebezettel: this has changed with grub2
[23:11] <Mamarok> klebezettel: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[23:11] <klebezettel> i see..
[23:11] <Mamarok> ok, really off now, good night
[23:12] <klebezettel> thx
[23:13] <Xiella> What is a good command line internet browser to install?
[23:13] <klebezettel> w3m?
[23:15] <Xiella> klebezettel: Thank you
[23:17] <moreno> buonasera
[23:50] <walkerd> clear
[23:52] <dezk> hello
[23:52] <dezk> im having some trubles with oregano
[23:53] <dezk> someone can help
[23:53] <dezk> i need some help