[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  ive been using Ubuntu since like  warty warthog days
[03:47] <genoobie> how do I get rid of it and install another bootloader
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> !grub1 | genoobie
[03:48] <hexed> anyone have any experience installing and configuring gateway6? i have it installed and config'd but when i run it, it just quits and for some reason i cant get a log file to check...
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  install the legacy grub if you want to.. but i dont suggest it.
[03:48] <genoobie> I'm getting rid of ubuntu
[03:48] <LJR> Dr_Willis - I've been here since Hardy Heron
[03:48] <genoobie> I'm going to try chakra
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  then install whatever bootloader the os you want to run uses.
[03:48] <Benno> Hardy Har
[03:48] <deserteagle> genoobie, then just install windows like normal
[03:49]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what chakra is
[03:49] <Ilmatic> seriously?? ubuntu is such a good os though..
[03:49] <joshua___> I see a bunch of updates including some to xserver so I think it would be a good idea to install them from single user.
[03:49] <genoobie> Dr_Willis, a distro based on arch
[03:49] <genoobie> + LXDE
[03:49] <deserteagle> gl, hf
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  Id hope its installer/docs install a proper bootloader then. Good luck
[03:49] <joshua___> Well init 1 brought it down to single user just fine, but init 5 didn't start kdm
[03:49] <LJR> genoobie, does it have a live, install cd?
[03:49] <genoobie> LJR, yes
[03:49] <joshua___> so I issue "start kdm" from a root prompt
[03:50] <genoobie> ubuntu just proved to be too slow (I have some seriously old hardware)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> If using anything 'ARCH' related.. the answer will be to go read the ARCH docs. :)
[03:50] <LJR> genoobie, then you'll be fine.
[03:50] <deserteagle> so... does anyone know how I can go about installing a legacy nvidia driver without getting xserver-xorg issues?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> Or so i found out in #archlinux one day.
[03:50] <iflema> genoobie: xubuntu
[03:50] <Xfact> i am just about to try karmic, well, my processor is 64 bit compatible, so which version is batter, 32 bit or 64 bit?
[03:50] <genoobie> LJR it will install it's own bootloader
[03:50] <joshua___> well that started kdm all right but some dependency wasn't started so keyboard didn't work (not even Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+Bksp) so here we go power button
[03:50] <genoobie> iflema, I tried xubuntu, it was also too slow
[03:50] <LJR> Dr_Willis, Arch is totally different from Ubuntu, so always refer them to that resource.
[03:50] <Ilmatic> whattt...that's crazyy
[03:50] <iflema> puppy
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> joshua___:  alt-ctrl-backspace is disabled now in most X setups.
[03:51] <LJR> We really can't do much to help here. We're based on Debian. Arch is based on Arch.
[03:51] <genoobie> puppy rocks!
[03:51] <deserteagle> genoobie, if you want a fast, lightweight OS, try crunchbang
[03:51] <Ilmatic> ubuntu is very responsive and I only have 196 mb of ram
[03:51] <Ilmatic> : )
[03:51] <spO> how come smplayer + mplayer + coreavc played 1080p videos better in jaunty rather than karmic?
[03:51] <joshua___> Xfact: 64 bit is better if over 4GB
[03:51] <webbb82> ok i need some help, everytime i add a ppa and then  do apt-get update  i t will saysW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/file-browser-applet-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:51] <DaZ> Xfact: if you don't have more than 4gigs of ram it doesn't matter actually
[03:51] <LJR> Damn Small Linux is good for older machines.
[03:51] <genoobie> puppy is the shizzle
[03:51] <joshua___> Dr_Willis: Ctrl+Alt+F1 didn't work either
[03:51] <webbb82> every ppa i add does this
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> spO:  video driver issues perhaps.
[03:51] <genoobie> it's superfast on my machine
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> joshua___:  those should of worjked.
[03:51] <genoobie> the only reason I don't like it is their pkgman
[03:51] <genoobie> it's .pet or .pup files
[03:52] <Ilmatic> get a mac!!
[03:52] <Ilmatic> lol
[03:52] <Ilmatic> i love my mac
[03:52] <genoobie> haha
[03:52] <LJR> I really like Portage. I wish we had that here...
[03:52] <joshua___> Dr_Willis: I've seen this before when starting X streight from the recovery prompt
[03:52] <genoobie> LJR synaptic seemed fine to me
[03:52] <DaZ> genoobie: chakra is more into kde than lxde imo [;
[03:52] <Xfact> DaZ & Joshua_: I only have 1 GB of ram, so 32 bit is recommended?
[03:52] <Benno> So?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> joshua___:  cant say that ive ever seen that issue. so cant realluy help.
[03:52] <Hydrosis> Xfact, yes.
[03:52] <Benno> where can I put my logon script on ubuntu?
[03:52] <genoobie> but it's searches were wrong a alot
[03:52] <DaZ> Xfact: it's not recommended but it doesn't make much difference
[03:52] <LJR> genoobie, it's just as powerful and versatile, but portage has that sexy factor
[03:52] <Benno> the terminal one
[03:53] <Xfact> ok thanks everyone for suggestion....
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  64bit can inprove some preformance in math intensive tasks.. but  i doubt if you will notice that much of a gain.
[03:53] <genoobie> DaZ, yeah it probably won't run nicely on the old lappy
[03:53] <Ilmatic> why would his ram amount matter for his bit of choice?
[03:53] <DaZ> Xfact: 64bit os tends to be a little faster and needs a little more ram
[03:53] <genoobie> puppy's pacman can't handle deps that well etc etc
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  more then 4gb = use 64bit
[03:53] <genoobie> okay nite
[03:53] <genoobie> I have to get an install going and do some work
[03:53] <LJR> Xfact, that doesn't really matter. Your arch type depends on your processor.
[03:53] <Ilmatic> oh..
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  with just 1 gb.. its not really going to matter much
[03:53] <frankely> any ssh program that allows me connect it to an ipod touch?
[03:54] <Xfact> DaZ: but i doesn't supports all kind of programs....
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> ipod has a ssh server?
[03:54] <DaZ> Xfact: supports most of them
[03:54] <frankely> yes
[03:54] <joshua___> he must have rooted it
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  i have very few issues with 64bit  on my machines.
[03:54] <webbb82> everytime i add a ppa  i get a error failed to fetch 404 not found
[03:54] <DaZ> Xfact: and if something doesn't work because of 64bits it usually means downloading 32bit dependencies [;
[03:54] <frankely> i used winscp when in windows
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  i can only think of one program that dosetn come in 64bit.. and thats 'zsnes' :)
[03:55] <frankely> but in linux is something graphical that allows me join into ssh server right?
[03:55] <Wally> Anyone care to tell me where I can put my bash script on ubuntu terminal so it runs when I Open it?
[03:55] <iflema> lol
[03:55] <Ilmatic> what the heckkk
[03:55] <Ilmatic> this is so frustrating
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  if it has a ssh server.. then you can use any ssh client to connect.
[03:55] <frankely> yes i mean
[03:55] <joshua___> "you have 12 new bugfixes" followed by "the following package have been kept back"
[03:55] <Viking667> Hi there. I've got a rather awkward question. I'm trying to burn a DVD as UDF from a set of files I have. Can this be done from brasero?
[03:55] <frankely> what ssh client, do you recommend me
[03:55] <Xfact> well, finally I understood what I need to do...thanks for $uggestions  :)
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | frankely
[03:55] <frankely> ?
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  depends on what you want to do.. thers good old 'scp' and 'ssh' and gnome file manager has the feature.. and about every other file manager out
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  or use 'sshfs'
[03:56] <frankely> i just want a ssh client that allows me change permisions and access folders graphically
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Thersz more to 'ssh' then just transfering files. :)
[03:56] <joshua___> you betcha
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  most file managers can connect to ssh servers and alter files.
[03:57] <frankely> so
[03:57] <frankely> how i make it?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  places -> connect to server
[03:57] <LJR> Oh people of all-knowingness - do I want to get up long enough to get a cocoa moo?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Logical :)
[03:57] <joshua___> I use ssh on Windows as suitable infrastructure replacement for all manner of VPN systems
[03:57] <frankely> and there?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> try it and see...
[03:57] <joshua___> works so much better if you're willing to take the half hour to instal it
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> tell it to connect.
[03:57] <joshua___> how much more when it gets its native environment
[03:58] <bastid_raZor> frankely: tell it to use ssh as service type .. the rest explains it self
[03:58] <Ilmatic> hey dr. willis
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> Ilmatic:  Hmm?
[03:58] <Ilmatic> what's your current screen resolution?
[03:58] <frankely> connect to server where is that in nbr?
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> frankely:  places -> connect to server
[03:58] <MrPocket2> waiiit
[03:58] <frankely> i have not place menu
[03:58] <frankely> here
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> No ide  on the Netbook Remix.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> I dont use it.
[03:59] <webbb82> hey im in karmic and everytime i add a ppa with add-apt-repository  then hit apt-get update i keep getting W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/file-browser-applet-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> !info sshfs
[03:59] <webbb82> every ppa i add does that
[04:00] <frankely> Dr_Willis: thank you
[04:00] <frankely> i did not know it
[04:00] <frankely> nautilus works good for me
[04:01]  * Dr_Willis points out 'Rember kiddies - thers always 12+ ways to do the same thing in Linux!, try them all!'
[04:02] <LJR> 12+?
[04:02] <LJR> Lol
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> 'this was a public service anoucement'
[04:02] <LJR> Linux is the OS of infinite possibilities.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> 'Linux - Your OS - Your Way'
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> YOYW Linux! :)
[04:02] <LJR> Linux - now with more penguin flavored goodness!
[04:02] <afroEngineer> has anyone tried gaming with linux (need for speed, call of duty, maybe crysis)
[04:03] <LJR> afroEngineer, I game on Linux.
[04:03] <Suzanne> Hi Hal
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> I have had a great many games work with the latest wine. 'torchlight' 'LOTRO' and others
[04:03] <LJR> !hi | Suzanne
[04:03] <LJR> I hate wine.
[04:04] <phillip> I <3 beer
[04:04] <LJR> I like beer mroe
[04:04] <LJR> *more
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> No mroe beer for you!
[04:04]  * LJR high-fives phillip
[04:04] <LJR> I meant "moar" beer.
[04:04] <karmst> Hello everyone
[04:04] <LJR> !hi | karmst
[04:04] <joshua___> ubottu's IrcGuildlines link goes to "this page does not exist yet"
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> joshua___:  make it then! :)
[04:05] <karmst> Is there a way to backup the full Ubuntu Karmic while it is in use?
[04:05] <joshua___> Dr_Willis would regret that
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  You could use that fsarchive tool.. but its not in the normal repos.
[04:05] <phillip> Gah Mesa 3D drivers taking aggggeess to compile
[04:05] <gmachine_24> does anyone find it suprising that there are 1,278 users in this room?
[04:05] <LJR> gmachine_24, we work in shifts most of the time.
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  even then.. doing a full backup of a system in use.. may cause.. issues..
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  perhaps proper use of rsync
[04:06] <gmachine_24> I love rsync
[04:06]  * Dr_Willis has low rsync skills
[04:06] <gmachine_24> it keeps my music files up to date
[04:06] <phillip> I love lamp
[04:06] <karmst> What I'm looking for is a bare metal backup / restore solution
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> I rareluy use the tool
[04:06] <faileas> gmachine_24: most idle ;p
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[04:06] <gmachine_24> ?
[04:06] <gmachine_24> quien?
[04:06] <Xfact> any body can tell me how to install 'tar.gz' 'geomenu theme'..... (I've downloaded it from gnomelook.org)
[04:06] <LJR> ubottu knows everything.
[04:07] <gmachine_24> I do the tar back up thing
[04:07] <faileas> karmst: eh, i've been looking for one. the only one that claims to do a live bare metal restore on a working system is mondo
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  'fsarchive' from a live cd - is also a handy tool. Its on many linux-rescue type cd's
[04:07] <karmst> mondo?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Mondo/Mindi - is a neat tool set also..
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> !info mondo
[04:07] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i have NEVER gotten it working, sadly
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Ive not used Mondo/Mindi in ages..
[04:07] <LJR> Xfact, "tar -xf <filename>"
[04:07] <gmachine_24> I suppose if I hung around in here I would learn a lot
[04:07] <LJR> gmachine_24, you will
[04:07] <gmachine_24> I know
[04:07] <LJR> gmachine_24, also go to linuxcommand.com
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> I find fsacrhiver easier to use then mondo.mindi. at least.. the docs are easier to understand. :)
[04:07] <ctmjr> Xfact: open the theme manager and drag the file to it
[04:08] <gmachine_24> LJR I know that one!!
[04:08] <LJR> gmachine_24, http://linuxcommand.org/ my bad
[04:08] <faileas> Dr_Willis: i've tried on and off since.. hmm i think 7.04
[04:08] <karmst> let me go look up mondo
[04:08] <hexed> ive been idling in here since i installed ubuntu a week ago and i still dunno about half of what people talk about but im learning :D
[04:08] <Xfact> ctmjr: looking....
[04:08] <faileas> karmst: if you get it working, let me know ;p
[04:08] <gmachine_24> I am studying up on using command line tools, utilities, whatever you call them
[04:08] <LJR> Well, night all
[04:08] <phillip> OK boys and girls, wish me luck in testing my freshly compiled Mesa drivers
[04:08] <faileas> hexed: eh. i come here asking for help, and give up and help
[04:08] <Alan502_> gmachine_24, back
[04:08] <gmachine_24> LJR, bye.
[04:08] <LJR> see you tomorrow
[04:08] <hexed> lol
[04:08] <gmachine_24> Alan502, hey man.
[04:08] <karmst> mondo rescue lab?
[04:08] <sabgenton> I want to install stuff from the cd but apt is wanting to go online
[04:08] <faileas> gmachine_24: i found learning organically is easiest. learn what you need to know, when you need to know it
[04:09] <Alan502_> gmachine_24, i got my skype working. Just the sound but at least that is something. I just had to replace esound with pulseaudio
[04:09] <Alan502_> gmachine_24, thanks for the help
[04:09] <faileas> sabgenton: you need to use apt cd to add the cd, then do as per normal
[04:09] <genii> !hi
[04:09] <hexed> anyone have any experience installing the gateway6 ipv6 tunnel client?
[04:09] <genii> Ok, link fixed
[04:09] <gmachine_24> faileas, yes, that is what I am doing. Except now I am making notes and printing pdf versions of everything.
[04:09] <sabgenton> Faileas thanks
[04:10] <gmachine_24> Alan502, yeah. I was going to say you could play with the sound settings but then if something went wrong I would have had no idea how to fix it. :D
[04:10] <gmachine_24> Glad it worked.
[04:10]  * faileas figures it wouldn't hurt to ask again...
[04:10] <df00zzzz1> mplayer -dvd-device /dev/dvd1 dvd://20   No stream found to handle url dvd://20
[04:10] <df00zzzz1> what on earth...
[04:10] <karmst> hmmm...
[04:10] <hexed> if not gateway6 can anyone recommend a better ipv6 tunnel client?
[04:10] <karmst> mondo does have a debian / karmic package
[04:11] <sabgenton> faileas: you mean apt-cdrom ?
[04:11] <faileas> I'm trying to set up a minimal system, built around openbox, and just what i need. I would like a gui multiplatform IM client that dosen't have a ton of prerequisites - i need about 100 mb of packages to install pidgin, and that's not really acceptable
[04:11] <gmachine_24> is it df00zzzz1?
[04:11] <faileas> sabgenton: yeah. i think i do
[04:11] <df00zzzz1> Hm?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fsarchiver.org/Installation
[04:11] <sabgenton> :)
[04:11] <gmachine_24> faileas, I hate pidgin
[04:11] <faileas> karmst: i have not gotten it working yet ;p
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> FSArchiver is a system tool that allows you to save the contents of a file-system to a compressed archive file. The file-system can be restored on a partition which has a different size and it can be restored on a different file-system.
[04:12] <faileas> gmachine_24: eh, i use kopete mostly. its not a good fit for this project
[04:12] <karmst> hmmm...
[04:12] <faileas> i found one that would fit.. but it keeps crashing on my system ;p
[04:12] <karmst> Well what I'd like to be able to do is restore my workstation / servers in the event of a DR
[04:12] <afroEngineer> what do i use to run a .run file
[04:12] <karmst> even if it's to new hardware
[04:13] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis, is FSArchiver a front-end for a tool I know by another name?
[04:13] <karmst> faileas did you get the manual?
[04:13] <faileas> karmst: most people tend to use file level backups. I've been looking for an app that does this for ages ;p
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  its not a front end.
[04:13] <faileas> karmst: for the app i compiled?
[04:13] <gmachine_24> ok
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  its a relatively new tool.
[04:13] <karmst> for Mondo
[04:13] <gmachine_24> ok
[04:13] <gmachine_24> I will add it to my "to do" list
[04:13] <faileas> karmst: yeah, it was a while back.
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> gmachine_24:  its main feature it archives at the file level. nto the whole 'filesystem'
[04:14] <gmachine_24> nto?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> It should be available in the standard repository in Ubuntu-10.04 (Lucid Lynx) if everything is ok.
[04:14] <gmachine_24> oh, not. nm
[04:14] <gmachine_24> okie
[04:14] <karmst> well they have a new version made for Karmic
[04:14] <nvme_> i installed drbl on karmic desktop i386, and am trying to clone an HP blade server, but when i try to boot the blade with clonezilla i get "network driver not found" in the kernel image (2.6xxx-16)
[04:14] <joshua___> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[04:14] <karmst> no source compiling needed
[04:14] <lotus> hey, I'm in the installation phase of ubuntu 9.10
[04:14] <lotus> in the alternate installer
[04:15] <lotus> I've selected my /dev/sdc to install grub to, and it errored out
[04:15] <lotus> so I selected to install lilo to it, and it's asking for a cdrom
[04:15] <lotus> but I've been using usb the whole time
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  why would you want LILO?
[04:15] <LinuX2half> When I insert a window installation disc, the computer is unable to read the content.
[04:15] <lotus> because grub errored out
[04:15] <lotus> /dev/sdc is a usb drive
[04:15] <nvme_> i installed drbl on karmic desktop i386, and am trying to clone an HP blade server, but when i try to boot the blade with clonezilla i get "network driver not found" in the kernel image (2.6xxx-16), anyone know how to fix that ?
[04:16] <lotus> I didn't know what to do
[04:16] <lotus> do I have to restart the whole installation?
[04:16] <pepperjack> nvme_: youll want the network card driver :)
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  its possible you could boot/chroot into the installed system, then try reinstalling grub.
[04:16]  * Dr_Willis shudders at the thought of using LILO  these days
[04:16] <nvme_> pepperjack, well i dont understand why the latest ubuntu kernel image doesnt have it already :P
[04:17] <karmst> hmm
[04:17] <karmst> what is the difference from Mindi and Mondo?
[04:17] <lotus> Dr_Willis, so cancel at the "install the lilo boot loader" screen by ctrl-alt-delete?  I can't get out of it and I don't have a cdrom to put in.
[04:17] <pepperjack> nvme_:  that kind of detracts from the convenience of clonezilla i guess
[04:17] <gmachine_24> Has anyone else here worked @ freegeek.org in Portland?
[04:18] <nvme_> pepperjack, huh ?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  no idea really on whats best.   you could check the forums I guess there may be some work around
[04:18] <karmst> hmmm
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  my machines dont even have cd drives. :)
[04:18] <karmst> ok faileas
[04:18] <lotus> yeah I'm on a netbook
[04:19] <karmst> is there a way to automate using this thing?
[04:19] <lotus> :P
[04:19] <lotus> but anyways, that's not the real issue.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  they work together like salt and peper. :) sugar and spice.. and  err.. i better stop there.. this is a faimly channel
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> !info mindi
[04:19] <lotus> I'm trying to install grub to a usb key
[04:19] <lotus> and it didn't take, any idea why?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  not really.  Unless its confused by what you booted from and what you are installing to.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  you booted from a usb device.. and are installign to a 2nd usb device?
[04:20] <skyllo> Hello, I am suffering from low resolution due to the monitor being unknown. Using Ubuntu 9.10 Koala, video card SiS. I already have the drivers installed. put a 800x600 resolution does not exceed
[04:21] <Viking667> ugh.
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  if i recall right. You use Mondo/Mindi and you can make an 'bootable restore disk set' that you boot and restore the whole system from.
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  if you are lucky the bootable disks properl do all the setup like a live cd does. :)
[04:22] <karmst> right but can you automate the backups?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  that was also the weakest link i found in the system of mondo/mindi
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  automate in what way.?
[04:22] <karmst> like have it do incremental backups?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> I dont think thats  the goal/design feature of the tool.. check their homepage is my advice
[04:22] <Burzmali> Anyone know a way to back up SafeDisc protected CDs with ubuntu?
[04:23] <skyllo> Hello, I am suffering from low resolution due to the monitor being unknown. Using Ubuntu 9.10 Koala, video card SiS. I already have the drivers installed. put a 800x600 resolution does not exceed
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Burzmali:  thers so many types of 'safedisk' its hard to say. Theres proberly some tools that can do SOME..
[04:23] <lotus> Dr_Willis, yes that's exactly true
[04:23] <lotus> O
[04:24] <lotus> I'm rebooting now and am gonna have to reinstall everything because it's encrypted and the instalelr won't see it so I'll ahve to repartition
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  when you boot one usb key. it becomes 'sda' in many cases.. the installer  can get confused because its trying to install the bootloader to 'sda' which is actually what it booted from.. not sdb which you are installing to.
[04:24] <lotus> Dr_Willis, it found the usb drive to be sdc
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  i tend to use the usb-disk-creator tool to make a bootable usb-live-key with a persistant save. I rarely do a 'full' install to a flash drive
[04:25] <karmst> man this can't be working right
[04:25] <Burzmali> Dr_Willis: I've been trying with most of the standard ones in the repo without much luck.  It looks like the CDs have a "feature" that prevents imaging.  Most of my CDs are the old kind that are are on the edge of wearing out.
[04:25] <karmst> it only took 2 minutes to backup the whole system?!?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Burzmali:  i just use no-cd-cracks for most of my old games.
[04:25] <lotus> I'm not trying to install to the flash drive I just want grub on the flash drive so it won't boot linux without the drive inserted
[04:25] <karmst> hmmm
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  thats.. weird..
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:26] <karmst> Does something like backupexec work on Ubuntu?
[04:26] <lotus> I know!
[04:26] <lotus> :D
[04:26] <nvme_> i installed drbl on karmic desktop i386, and am trying to clone an HP blade server, but when i try to boot the blade with clonezilla i get "network driver not found" in the kernel image (2.6xxx-16), anyone know how to fix that ?
[04:26]  * Dr_Willis predicts some reading of the grub docs in lotus 's future
[04:26] <Burzmali> Dr_Willis: As do I, but not all of the old stuff I have has easy to find nocd patches.
[04:26] <lotus> I'll dive into that.  Thanks Dr_Willis
[04:26] <gmachine_24> I love reading technical documents
[04:26] <gmachine_24> almost as much as I love texting during sex
[04:27]  * kevdog thinks -- Is this a family channel?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> kevdog:  it was...
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:28] <skyllo> Hello, I am suffering from low resolution due to the monitor being unknown. Using Ubuntu 9.10 Koala, video card SiS. I already have the drivers installed. put a 800x600 resolution does not exceed
[04:28] <joshua___> gmachine_24: are you mad?
[04:28] <gmachine_24> sorry guys. someone gave me a computer for christmas
[04:28]  * Dr_Willis runs and hides at the  mention of 'sis video'
[04:28] <gmachine_24> sis video
[04:28] <gmachine_24> sis video
[04:28] <Flannel> gmachine_24: Please take non-support conversation elsewhere, thanks.
[04:28] <skyllo> ;/
[04:28] <gmachine_24> back back
[04:28] <karmst> What do you guys do it you lose your Ubuntu system?!?
[04:28] <gmachine_24> ok
[04:28] <karmst> if*
[04:28] <joshua___> skyllo: have you tried vesa driver? Last I checked it will let you go arbitrarly high w/o knowing monitor
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  i keep my /home/ on its own partition. I can easially reinstall and get back in action.
[04:29] <karmst> right but that doesn't keep all your configurations and programs
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> karmst:  if i really wanted to i could arvhive my /home to a fileserver
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> 'programs' - trivial to reinstall stuff..
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> configs.. also not really a big deal.
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> keep arvives on your ubuntu one account if you want
[04:30] <joshua___> Dr_Willis: I did even better: non-apt installed stuff is installed in /usr/local,which is a symlink to /home/local
[04:30] <karmst> yes but still it's time consuming
[04:30] <skyllo> joshua___
[04:30] <skyllo> Yes, plus it also comes only to 800x600 when it should reach 1400x1050
[04:31] <gmachine_24> I do the old-fashioned tar back up and leave off the /home/** or rather do them on a separate run. All are programmed to run by themselves.... so it's easy.
[04:31] <the_nation> hi I am having an issue with running Ubuntu 9.10 from usb.  I can get it to boot up just fine, but when I do a system update, I am unable to boot again from the usb
[04:31] <the_nation> is it not possible to apply the latest updates?
[04:31] <karmst> I want something that you throw a CD in the drive or use a network card boot to do a full restore
[04:31] <Viking667> what sort of "system update"?
[04:31] <skyllo> my monitor is 15
[04:31] <karmst> or be able to transfer the backup to a VM
[04:31] <Viking667> does the system update include touching grub?
[04:31] <the_nation> like system file updates
[04:31] <the_nation> Actuially I think it does
[04:32] <Viking667> that could be your issue. See what's in /boot/grub/
[04:32] <Viking667> I don't know if you're using grub2 yet. I don't know much about how to boot from USB, nor do I know that much about how grub works. But I know that the grub can get a bit worked over when updating.
[04:32] <the_nation> Viking, after the update it asks me to restart, once restarted the usb drive is no longer an option from my boot menu   just cd and HD
[04:33] <the_nation> if that makes sense
[04:33] <gmachine_24> So, what do people use to make copies of their legally obtained DVD movies?
[04:33] <gmachine_24> A DVD copy, not an AVI.
[04:33] <morphias> copy+paste ?
[04:34] <gmachine_24> uhm.
[04:34] <gmachine_24> no.
[04:34] <morphias> lol - wee
[04:34] <NRV> gmachine_24: can you dd?
[04:34] <the_nation> gmachine    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[04:34] <gmachine_24> NRV, yes.
[04:34] <skyllo>  Hello, I am suffering from low resolution due to the monitor being unknown. Using Ubuntu 9.10 Koala, video card SiS. I already have the drivers installed. put a 800x600 resolution does not exceed
[04:35] <kevdog> anydvd
[04:35] <karmst> ok I'm reading something that says I can just write a TAR script and zip the whole system up into an archive and don't have to worry about open processes?
[04:35] <justin_> Has anyone ever complied ALSA?
[04:35] <karmst> Is this true?
[04:35] <gmachine_24> the_nation, have you used dvd::rip lately?
[04:35] <gmachine_24> kevdog, thanks.
[04:35] <joshua___> Did you guys see the guy yesterday who actidentally tee'd something to /dev/sda (hint: do that = no boot)
[04:36] <Viking667> joshua___: can't be as bad as Linus Torvalds. One day he tried to (successfully, I might add) use his hard drive as a modem...
[04:36] <kevdog> dvd decrypter also -- but its hard to find -- its about 3 years since its been updated but works for me most of the time -- its quick and easy to use despite what other people may say
[04:36] <justin_> My system doesn't sound
[04:36] <justin_> and I cann't find alsa module
[04:36] <NRV> gmachine_24: i have done a couple through DD, I loved it when dvd:::rip worked :(
[04:37] <NRV> speaking of which, does anyone have that working with 9.10?
[04:38] <the_nation> Viking thanks for pointing me to the possible issue.  I'll have a look at it and report back in a bit :)
[04:38] <gmachine_24> NRV, yeah, I was going to say I thought that prog died awhile ago. I used it for awhile as well
[04:38] <karmst> Hmmm
[04:38] <karmst> ok
[04:38] <joshua___> My gotcha; ran do-release-upgrade inside a schroot jail
[04:38] <alejandro-math> Greetings
[04:38] <karmst> Symantec Backup Exec System Recovery works with Ubuntu 9.10
[04:38] <joshua___> It installed the bootloader
[04:38] <joshua___> A 32 bit kernel cannot run 64 bit binaries.
[04:38] <gmachine_24> I have been trying vobcopy
[04:38] <karmst> it will do a full image backup and incremental changes of the entire OS
[04:39] <Jason2gs> Okay. So. I recently did a fresh install of 9.10. New bugs and stuff, etc... It seems that, when I boot Ubuntu with my monitor unplugged, it's like it's not recognized, and I'm given some 640x480 resolution. When I boot with my monitor plugged in, everything is fine.
[04:39] <Jason2gs> Should I be worried...?
[04:39] <gmachine_24> and dvdshrink
[04:39] <gmachine_24> but have probs with both
[04:39] <NRV> I attempted to use that program as well, I failed miserably though, I will try it again when i get more time
[04:40] <gmachine_24> NRV, which one? dvdshrink or vobcopy
[04:40] <gmachine_24> I previously used acidrip but even that seems to be failing me now. but my comp hasn't changed.
[04:41] <NRV> dvdshrink though wine
[04:41] <iflema> no
[04:41] <Alan502> argh
[04:41] <gmachine_24> ahh. there is a linux dvdshrink but I think it's called xdvdshrink
[04:42] <NRV> ok i will give that a go
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !info k9copy
[04:42] <NRV> thanks
[04:42] <gmachine_24> http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/ this one is getting old as well
[04:42] <slesnett> hello
[04:42] <gmachine_24> ubottu, so k9copy works well?
[04:42] <petsounds> gmachine_24, how about create .iso file with brasero, and play it with VLC?
[04:43] <gmachine_24> oh. now I feel like an idiot.
[04:43] <Ilmatic> god dammit
[04:43] <gmachine_24> petsounds, ok mr. beachboy
[04:43] <gmachine_24> Alan502, que paso?
[04:43] <gmachine_24> petsounds, can brasero rip an encrypted DVD?
[04:43] <Alan502> Alan502, 3g es un dolor de cabeza
[04:44] <gmachine_24> haha
[04:44] <gmachine_24> si
[04:44] <gmachine_24> espera hace 4g
[04:44] <gmachine_24> un dolor del mundo
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  I use devede to convert avi/video to 'dvd iso' format.
[04:45] <gmachine_24> thanks, Doc.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> handbrake - can convert dvd and other formats to  - other err.. formats also. :)
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> as can other tools I imagine. :)
[04:45] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis, yes I have used handbrake as well.
[04:45] <gmachine_24> Methinks perhaps the computer is not meant for this.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> windows/nero/ext.. have peopel trained to think that a dvd burning tool should handle  other 'tasks' as well. :)
[04:46] <gmachine_24> and roxio..........don't forget the roxio goons
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Ive worked hard to forget foxio
[04:46] <slesnett> I'm encountering problems getting my windows and ubuntu machines to work together down stairs. they seem to want a password which I don't understand since the upstairs work well in file and printer sharing. any thoguhts would appreciated.
[04:46] <petsounds> gmachine_24, i have an original My Fair Lady, dual layer dvd. i think it's encrypted and i can create the .iso with brasero.
[04:46] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis I do not blame you
[04:47] <gmachine_24> petsounds, ok. very cool. I will check it out. Thanks!
[04:47] <NRV> slesnett, I am assuming that this is through Windows (SAMBA) shares?
[04:47] <hyperstream> slesnett, trying to access windows shares?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> slesnett:  to connect to the ubuntu samba shares  - i always givbe the linux user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' - I ioften just set the samba password the same as the users login password.
[04:47] <gmachine_24> but... what.. is an "original" My Fair Lady DVD?
[04:47] <Alan502> gmachine_24, hahaha perhaps, the worst thing is that i need to use the windows app to connect to my modem, because connecting from linux makes it more unstable. I just connect on a windows comp and bridge it to this one.
[04:47] <hyperstream> !samba | slesnett
[04:48] <tim-> anyone have any insight into why audio from flash wouldnt be working? all other audio is working.. ubuntu 9.10 (technically mythbuntu) outputting via hdmi
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> slesnett:  ive also found in the past with  some versions of windows.   You have to have a users password. or else it gets confused trying to connect to samba shares.
[04:48] <lakotajames> hi guys.  I'm trying to use the host file to block a website.  i have "<IP_ADDRESS>	neopets.com" and that blocks neopets.com, but it doesn't block http://www.neopets.com/games/arcade.phtml
[04:48] <gmachine_24> Alan502, if you have problems with the wireless(?) connection..........?
[04:49] <Alan502> gmachine_24, it's wireless 3G, used most commonly on cellular phones
[04:49] <Jason2gs> Who would want to block neopets?
[04:49] <slesnett> @nrv yes, I think, I have gotten smb.conf and changed the workgroup and it finds the machine.
[04:49] <lakotajames> Jason2gs: it's a long story :p
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:   the 'privoxy' proxy may be a little smarter about blocking things.. Or you could also try the opendns server/service/solutions
[04:49] <NRV> slesnett, so it prompts for a username and password?
[04:50] <Jason2gs> lakotajames, my guess would be that you also need to block 'www.neopets.com'. They're two different things.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  but i dont see how that is not working.. :)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ahh that makes sence Jason2gs
[04:50] <lakotajames> Jason2gs: thanks :)
[04:50] <gmachine_24> Alan502: I have found, when connecting wirelessly from Ubuntu to a public wi-fi place, that the connection comes and goes .... all the time. Until I figured out I had to remove all the old files from my browser, espeicially the cookies.
[04:50] <giiker> is there anycommand that tells me weather or not a PATA drive is working a a ceratin DMA mode?
[04:50] <slesnett> @nrv no,only a password stating I don't have access.
[04:50] <gmachine_24> I don't know if this helps.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> Guess he dont want his kids connecting to neopets.com :)
[04:51] <giiker> is there any command that tells in which DMA a PATA drive is working?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> reroute neopets.com to go to lolcats.com :)
[04:51] <NRV> slesnett, ok for that user account on the windows machine, is a password set?  some versions of windows will only allow access to shares and remote desktop if a password is set
[04:51] <petsounds> Dr_Willis, do you know why lots of people have problem with flash on karmic? :(
[04:51] <hyperstream> gmachine_24, sounds very strange, i can see one of my mates routers and connect to it from here inside my house which is 200meters away without an issue lol. downloads at 500kb's stable as well
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  because adobe  dosent really care about linux users..
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  theres also some issues with compiz and flash.
[04:52] <Alan502> gmachine_24, that's weird. I might try it, or change to debian lol
[04:52] <giiker> is there any command that tells in which DMA mode a PATA drive is working?
[04:52] <slesnett> @NRV all the machines (windows and ubuntu) have passwords
[04:52] <gmachine_24> try anything
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  and the weird way some sites handlr flash dosent help much either.. Ive seen some sites where  flash dosent work on their main page.. but it does on other  pages on teh same site
[04:53] <Jason2gs> With a couple of small hacks, I've managed to fix virtually all of my flash problems here on Karmic.
[04:53] <Jason2gs> Is nice.
[04:53] <gmachine_24> slesnett I am sending you a link via PM to an article I used to build my first Ubuntu/Windows network. It is simple and helpful
[04:53]  * Dr_Willis waits for flash to die.
[04:53] <Jason2gs> It's not a one-stop-fix, as I'd hoped, but it works.
[04:53] <hyperstream> gmachine_24, can you also throw me that like please
[04:53] <genii> giiker: hdparm -v             (you'll need hdparm installed)
[04:53] <petsounds> Dr_Willis, it rarely happen on previous release of ubuntu, i have 6 friends at campus that can't hear the sound from youtube video. :(
[04:54] <slesnett> @NBRV includes the upstairs machines that are working. PM??
[04:54] <giiker> genii: thankx, i'll try htat now!
[04:54] <gmachine_24> slesnett: sent you the link
[04:54] <mediaprodigy> SUCCESS... surfing the internets
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  previous releases may also be using earlier releases of flash.
[04:54] <Eruaran> Hello, is anyone familiar with this problem: A recent new Ubuntu install cannot get a gnome desktop up and running. Has an error saying it cannot update ICEauthority problem after updates ?? Home is encrypted and something seems to have gone wrong.
[04:54] <gmachine_24> mediaprodigy: yay
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  thers some package i recall that was supposed to help fix flash sound issues.. but i dont recall its name
[04:54] <mediaprodigy> thanks.. for anyone interested WG111 USB works plug n play
[04:54] <hyperstream> Eruaran, you got your encryption passphase yes?
[04:55] <heralyenie> iytfg9uo
[04:55] <gmachine_24> OK. I gotta go. Thanks to everyone for the help and camaraderie.
[04:55] <alejandro-math> I love Ubuntu !!!
[04:55] <giiker> genii: the help menu options jsut came up, nothing else...
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> alejandro-math:  marry it then. :)
[04:55] <alejandro-math> I <3 Ubuntu :-)
[04:55] <alejandro-math> ^^
[04:55] <slesnett> @NRV I must be missing something, I don't see anything.
[04:56] <alejandro-math> i try it
[04:56] <genii> giiker: hdparm -v /dev/sda                   as a for-instance
[04:56] <darkham> hi people , have ubuntu something like apple automator?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> darkham:  and that does what?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a kitchen appliance
[04:57] <Jason2gs> :D
[04:57] <Alan502> lmao @Dr_Willis
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> make apple pies in 1/2 the time with the APple Automator!
[04:57] <Hilikus> im using ubuntu 9.10. the version of ampache in the repo is 3.5.1. it has as a suggested package mysql5.0 but 9.10 comes with 5.1. do i really need 5.0 or i can use it with mysql 5.1?
[04:57] <Jason2gs> My mum
[04:57] <Jason2gs> had this thing
[04:57] <Jason2gs> where you put an apple under it,
[04:57] <darkham> Dr_Willis, automator help to build script with gui
[04:57] <giiker> genii: that di not work either
[04:57] <Jason2gs> and it sliced it. Took the core out and everything.
[04:57] <Jason2gs> I'd call that an apple automator...
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> darkham:  ive seen some bash builder helper tools. ages ago.. but o dont recall anything recently...
[04:58] <giiker> genii: it says: IO_support    =  0 (default)  readonly      =  0 (off) readahead     = 256 (on) geometry      = 19457/255/63, sectors = 312581808, start = 0
[04:58] <RealKillaz> hi I would like to the content of one file to another using CL: what am I doing wrong here: content_from_here >> content_to_here
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz: I think you missed a few words in that question....
[04:58] <slesnett> @gmachines_24   I found it. Thnaks I'll check it out.
[04:58] <giiker> genii: the drive is not mounted yet, do you think that will be the problem?
[04:58] <peekat> CL?
[04:58] <darkham> Dr_Willis, an instrument like that would help many new user to learn bash cpmmands
[04:59] <RealKillaz> like to copy*
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> darkham:  reading bash docs help you learn bash commands...
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> darkham:  using a gui tool just keeps you from that. :)
[04:59] <genii> giiker: No. More likely it's due to scsi layer. Probably need sdparm
[04:59] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, like to copy* content of one file to another using command line
[04:59] <hyperstream> Dr_Willis, agreed
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> darkham:  i recall some 'universial front end' tool ages ago that sort of let you create a gui to a command line tool that would then run the tool witht he options.. but o forget its name.. i saw it on a live cd.. ages ago
[05:00] <Jason2gs> It's like this. When I boot my computer without the monitor plugged in, my screen res. defaults to, like, 640x480, and Ubuntu has trouble recognizing it or something. When I boot with it plugged in, all is fine.
[05:00] <Jason2gs> And, like, I don't know why.
[05:00] <giiker> genii: ok, thanks, first time I see this command!
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  cat file1 >> file2 I think.. or >
[05:00] <Jason2gs> The obvious solution would be to always boot with the monitor plugged in.
[05:00] <Jason2gs> This is true.
[05:00] <Jason2gs> But...
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  i forget which > and >> differ.. one voerwrites other appends
[05:00] <hyperstream> darkham, just google a bash scripting tutorial.
[05:00] <giiker> Dr_Willis: >> appends
[05:01] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, ok I forgot the cat command in front..
[05:01] <giiker> Dr_Willis: >> = append
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  yea. I wondered if that was a typo on your paste here.. or not. :)
[05:01] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, thanks.. yup >>, because I would like to append
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  thers some bash options that can affect how > and >> work also.  Noclobber option I think. prevents >  from overwtiteing an existing file
[05:02] <terinjokes> i've got a problem bridging wlan0 ---> eth0, if there is no bridge, the wlan0 interface gets an IP address, and is able to ping the internet
[05:02] <peekat> I've just spent the night banging my head against the wall on something... bought a new Linksys wireless G PCI adapter (ra61 driver). It's totally supported by the latest Kunbuntu, it shows up, it finds my access point, all that. But the network just keeps saying Unavailable. Anyone have any thoughts?
[05:02] <terinjokes> if there is a bridge, the wlan0 interface gets an IP address (i see the DHCP requests), but then it losses it. any ideas?
[05:02] <darkham> hyperstream, yes i had read many documentations, but sometimes, without too much time , it's a little bit too expensive write many lines for some commands
[05:02] <peekat> (Er, unrelated to what terinjokes just said -- coincidence)
[05:02] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, ok...
[05:03] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, I keep getting permission denied. I'm using sudo and the file is 644 owner is root
[05:03] <darkham> hyperstream, i prefer the terminal , most of the time
[05:03] <terinjokes> peekat: tried connecting from the shell?
[05:03] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, I'm using sudo
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  with using sudo and the pipeing/redirection stuff.. it can get tricky.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  let me find this url...
[05:03] <peekat> terinjokes: Tried, yes, but I don't really know the commands that well. Got lots of errors, tho. :)
[05:03] <giiker> genii: I run sdparm, but i can't decipher what the numbers mean
[05:04] <hyperstream> darkham, thats what i call being lazy, code is very quickly done if you know what your doing and working with.
[05:04] <cjae> if some had a directory with multiple kinds of data waiting to be burnt to disc, but found it quite monotonous to make each disc manually, eg. add all files to compilation what would one search google for in terms of automation?
[05:04] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willis: Hi again. What was the name of the DVD client/software you use? Please?
[05:04] <terinjokes> peekat: is the network password-protected?
[05:04] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, I'm always messing around with tricky things :-)
[05:04] <gmachine_24> Is petsounds still here
[05:04] <Tiders> Can Ubuntu use beryl/
[05:04] <gmachine_24> Tiders, yes
[05:04] <hyperstream> darkham, same here, terminal FTW
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  see --> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[05:04] <peekat> terinjokes: Yes. (And before you ask, it's a cellular access point, so I can't unprotect it). It's WAP, and I know I've got the password right becuase I'm connected on my windoze box
[05:04] <Tiders> !beryl
[05:05] <giiker> genii: would DMA mode considered a caching mode?
[05:05] <Tiders> Thats lame
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  the issue is the pipe stuff works as teh USER not root the way sudo reads it.
[05:05] <Tiders> gmachine_24, So I can only get compiz-fusion now?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> combining the redirection in the command we’ve lost sudo access.
[05:05] <gmachine_24> Tiders, well obviously I am not up on this but yes
[05:05] <gmachine_24> Tiders, you can get beryl
[05:05] <gmachine_24> but.........
[05:06] <gmachine_24> as the note says, it's discouraged
[05:06] <Tiders> gmachine_24, Ah i see
[05:06] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, I see. So I should use tee
[05:06] <RealKillaz> Dr_Willis, thnx
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Beryl is basically dead....
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> i dont think its been updated in a long time.
[05:06] <gmachine_24> very dead
[05:06] <giiker> genii: the numbers are exit codes for othe scripts
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> RealKillaz:  yes.. tee for you
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Emerald is also basically Dead. :)
[05:07] <peekat> When I run 'iwconfig' it shows the ESSID as "", but Network Manager shows the right SSID (as does 'iwlist scan'). I think it's probably an authentication issue, but I can't find any good info on how to troubleshoot that. (All the wiki stuff is outdated or doesn't otherwise apply.)
[05:07] <genii> giiker: Been a while since I used hdparm/sdparm, it may not be giving the info like bus speed you wanted to find out
[05:07] <mcurran> Anyone here know how to setup your ip address for apache2?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> I wish that Metisse got more popular - it had some really neat features
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/videos/
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !info metisse
[05:08] <faileas> mcurran: generally it should just work. what's the specific problem?
[05:08] <faileas> Dr_Willis: dosen't mandriva use that?
[05:08] <mcurran> I click on Start HTTPD and then I receive this error:  No IP Address configured!
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  i think it might have the option.. but i dont think its getting much love these days.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Mandriva One 2007 GNOME -- Metisse Inside!
[05:09] <terinjokes> peekat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[05:09] <giiker> genii: will have to try something else then
[05:09] <peekat> And in my GUI, the connection exists, but says 'Unavailable'...
[05:09] <giiker> genii: thanks
[05:09] <peekat> terinjokes: Thanks, but that's where I've spent all night...
[05:09] <hyperstream> so is there any harm in opening up a root shell with sudo -i ?
[05:09] <NRV> mcurran, have you checked your httpd.conf and ports.conf file?
[05:09] <hyperstream> apart from what i myself can damage/and or services i may run with possible security holes?
[05:10] <iceroot> hyperstream: no
[05:10] <hyperstream> thanks
[05:10] <mcurran> i checked apache2.conf, I didn't know there was a separate httpd one, I'll check it out - thanks
[05:10] <terinjokes> peekat: you mean WPA?
[05:10] <peekat> Yeah, typo
[05:11] <mcurran> actually, it was the httpd.conf file - I'll check out ports
[05:11] <faileas> peekat: hmm, tried using wpa_supplicant the old fashioned way to see if it works?
[05:11] <peekat> terinjokes: Uses WPA (TKIP), and my XP laptop connected easily. So I know the access point is fine.
[05:11] <GeorgeL> hey! anyone know how the adaptive huffman algorithm work?
[05:12] <terinjokes> peekat: one sec
[05:13] <morpheus_> hi all
[05:13] <giiker> anyone knows a small command/script to measure write speed to a hard drive? nothing graphical though?/
[05:13] <peekat> terinjokes: I know the adapter is working, cuz it found the AP's broadcast. It let me set up the connection. But the connection just shows Unavailable in the GUI (and ESSID="" in the terminal). It's driving me nuts. (and you may have many seconds -- I appreciate the help!)
[05:14] <faileas> peekat: http://pastebin.com/mcb87cb3 try using this wpa_supplicant.conf file. -> its usually saved as wpa_supplicant.conf. then run " sudo /sbin/wpa_supplicant -Dwext -B -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf; sudo dhclient eth0 "
[05:14] <faileas> er.. replace both eth0 with your wireless adaptor's name. mine is eth0 for some funny reason
[05:15] <giiker> anyone knows a small command/script to measure actual write speed to a hard drive? nothing graphical though?/
[05:15] <neezer> looking for help with bluetooth. I'm having trouble connecting my phone with my ubuntu laptop.
[05:15] <neezer> I'm not really sure where to start.
[05:15] <peekat> faileas: I'll try it, thanks. (Mine's wlan0)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeL:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Huffman_coding
[05:15] <hyperstream> peekat, WEP or WPA encryption on the wireless access point ?
[05:16] <ubuntunewbie> hi , does ubuntu really did a clean uninstall for application ?
[05:16] <morpheus_> after starting mplayer, sound will not play in any program, player dont work. it's write "Error opening/initializating the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[05:16] <faileas> peekat: you may need to change the -D bit as well... that command is specific to what driver you use
[05:16] <hyperstream> ubuntunewbie, english please
[05:16] <giiker> sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda4
[05:16] <giiker> oops wrong window
[05:16] <faileas> ubuntunewbie: depends on how you uninstalled it. apt-get remove keeps config files - to nuke those you need apt-get purge
[05:16] <giiker> or terminal
[05:16] <ubuntunewbie> such as if I install a program , will it still leave a trace such as a few file ?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> morpheus_:  the defalt -vo 'device' may need to be changed.
[05:17] <faileas> giiker: it happens. its worse when you type that sorta thing to a girl you're chatting up tho :)
[05:17] <LizardK|ng> ok, grub didn't pick up a kernel image for xen, so i guess the package doesn't come with one... do i need to compile my own?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> morpheus_:  but im not sure why that sould affect sound.. unless mplayer is some how crashing
[05:17] <hyperstream> ubuntunewbie, LOL
[05:17] <peekat> faileas: Oops! I'll do that as well, then.. I'm rt61, not wext
 yes it's crash
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> ubuntunewbie:  the pacakge manager has a 'purge' option to remove all system configs..  the package manager will NOT NOT NOT affect configs and files in the users home dirs.
[05:17] <maco> ubuntunewbie: sudo apt-get purge <progra>
[05:17] <Xfact> anybody can tell me how to get the cool 'application dock' in ubuntu?
[05:17] <maco> ubuntunewbie: uhh what Dr_Willis said
[05:17] <faileas> peekat: i can't remember if rt61 is in the kernel yet. i used to have one, and it was a minor pain
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> morpheus_:  try some different -vo outputs perhaps
[05:18] <maco> ubuntunewbie: that it was once installed and has since been purged will still show in "dpkg -l <package>" however
[05:18] <Flannel> ubuntunewbie: When you purge a package all of the files it installed are removed.  If it created any user configuration files (they would be in your homedir or stored data for that matter) when you ran the program, those won't be removed automatically.
[05:18] <ubuntunewbie> faileas , hyperstream : I mean I install in a different way there's a installation file
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  install some docks (i hate most of them) - Docky  is one avail in the PPA repos that i actually found 'useable'
[05:18] <LizardK|ng> i like cairodock
[05:18] <terinjokes> peekat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/351618/
[05:19] <faileas> ubuntunewbie: er.. depends. if you want a clean install and uninstall, you might want to consider using checkinstall instead of install - this makes a deb you can remove with apt
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Xfact:  gnome-do also has a 'docky' theme for a ok dock. But its beeeing phased out and replaced by the 'docky' stand alone program in the next release I belive
[05:19] <sri> how to configure ftp on Ubuntu???
[05:19] <terinjokes> peekat: change the -i part in /etc/network/interfaces to your wireless driver
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !ftpd | sri
[05:20] <sri> Which one is good for ftp Server?
[05:20] <peekat> faileas: Hrm... actually, it doesn't recognize that. Which is odd, because the driver is definitely installed (it shows up w/'lshw' and 'lsmod'). When I tried it with wext, though, it said "Listening on LPF/wlan0/<addr>", "Sending on <same>", "Sending on Socket/fallback", and then just kept repeating "DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval <X>" where X was 8, 12, 11, etc.
[05:20] <LizardK|ng> anyone know where i can get a precompiled kernel to use with xen, or do i need to compile my own?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> sri:  checkout the homepage/docs for the various ones.. it depends on yoru needs.. they are all 'ftp servers'
[05:20] <terinjokes> i lied, i meant -D
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> sri:  i suggest learning to use ssh/scp and forget about ftp
[05:20] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : here is my real question.
[05:20] <faileas> peekat: hmm, if its an rt61... one moment
[05:20] <sri> ok
[05:21] <peekat> terinjokes: Okay...
[05:21] <faileas> peekat: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ i'd probably start here
[05:21] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : I plan to print using my printer but ubuntu or linux doesn't have my canon printer dirver
[05:21] <slesnett> @neezer what happen to the bluetooth?
[05:21] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : The only way is to install turboprint which is a pay software
[05:22] <faileas> ubuntunewbie: lemme guess, its trialware and you want to try installing and uninstalling to get around it?
[05:22] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : let say after 30 days trial , can I clean uninstall and reinstall back after 30 days ?
[05:22] <faileas> no idea
[05:22] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : yeh
[05:22] <neezer> slesnett: I have no idea.
[05:22] <neezer>  I don't even know how to check to make sure it is on.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking even the trialware version printed some logo/watermark
[05:22] <ubuntunewbie> faileas : really no luck in searching canon printer driver.
[05:23] <neezer> I have connected my phone to a bluetooth headset, and now I want to connect it to my laptop.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> canon dosetn give linux much love  -  my canon printer finally has a driver.. and it dosetn work right. :)
[05:23] <terinjokes> does canon not accept one of the standard drivers?
[05:23] <neezer> I am pretty sure that I have bluetooth on my laptop.
[05:23] <faileas> ubuntunewbie: i really have no idea there
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis: dont mind much about watermark , just wantedto continue using after 30 days
[05:23] <faileas> Dr_Willis: lol. very few companies give linux love ;p
[05:23] <ubuntunewbie> faileas: maybe I am the only one asking this question here :-S
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Personaly i have added canon to my list of 'do not buy'  companies
[05:23]  * terinjokes gives linux love
[05:24] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis: brought a canon printer before I knew linux ubuntu
[05:24] <SetiAmon> hey are there any wireless keyboard/mouse for ubuntu 9.04
[05:24] <Maletor> How do I get my SATA 2 to mount when I boot up my machine and stay mounted? Internal
[05:24] <terinjokes> SetiAmon: with or without the dongle?
[05:24] <SetiAmon> I don't know there are dozens of sets i was just wondering what i should be going after
[05:25] <terinjokes> SetiAmon: actually, i don't think it matter... most *should* work
[05:25] <ubuntunewbie> Dr_Willis: can't find any work around  , been setting cup for pass few days and those linux driver wasn't compatible at all
[05:25] <slesnett> @neezer if yuhave installed it you should see the icon, what model bluetooth?
[05:25] <neezer> not sure.
[05:25] <neezer> on my phone?
[05:25] <neezer> I have a blackberry.
[05:26] <LizardK|ng> anyone know where i can get a precompiled kernel to use with xen, or do i need to compile my own?
[05:26] <neezer> I turned on the icon in system -> bluetooth.
[05:26] <neezer> Now I have a bluetooth icon in my tray on the top of my desktop.
[05:26] <SetiAmon> terinjokes:they all seem to say "windows certified" and such. I have no experience with this so i was just wondering what i should do or if it was worth the stress,but it sounds like most should be PnP
[05:26] <neezer> when I open it up and chose setup new connection, it doesn't find any devices.
[05:27] <Xfact> I found only 'Cairo-dock'
[05:27] <LizardK|ng> Xfact, i like cairodock
[05:27] <spader> SetiAmon: I have a keyboard "Microsoft Wireless Multimedia" and it works fine in Linux... i mean, unless you got something fancy, a keyboard is a keyboard
[05:28] <spader> spader --> terinjokes
[05:28] <ubuntunewbie> So , anyone know any binary hexa editor ?
[05:28] <Xfact> LizardKing: which version? 2.1.2
[05:28] <iflema> SetiAmon: all good... some keys may not function ou da box e.g. multi media... but gnome is good a recovering lost keys
[05:28] <SetiAmon> thanks then i'll just buy a affordable one for 40$
[05:29] <LizardK|ng> Xfact,  have 2.0.9-karmic1
[05:29] <Xfact>  LizardK|ng: cool!
[05:30] <joshua___> ugh
[05:31] <SandGorgon> some fairly interesting 32-bit vs 64-bit benchmarks by phoronix (64 bit wins) - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=5
[05:32] <hyampomeranian> Anyone know how to get cookies functional in Firefox 3.5.6?
[05:32] <chiques> Is there any way to look into a Windows Vista folder that is prompting "Access Denied"?
[05:32] <ziroday> chiques: mount the drive and navigate to the folder?
[05:33] <ziroday> hyampomeranian: what do you mean by functional?
[05:33] <joshua___> You know I am this --> <-- close to replacing files owned by core packages
[05:33] <hyampomeranian> /Edit/Preferences/Privacy... but Firefox won't save my changes.
[05:33] <joshua___> starting with /sbin/sulogin!
[05:33] <chiques> I did mount the drive, apparently there's a password on this drive which is preventing me from accessing it. I'm trying to back up the data.
[05:33] <osmosis> wow, banshe seems way nicer then rhythmbox. I wonder why ubuntu keeps rhythmbox as the default.
[05:33] <ziroday> chiques: err that password prompt is for your login password on your ubuntu machine
[05:34] <ziroday> hyampomeranian: wait, do you want to enable or disable the saving of cookies
[05:35] <nomnex> how do I expend all the folders in list view in Nautilus?
[05:35] <nomnex> Edit: expend all the sub-folders...
[05:36] <osmosis> why is tracker no longer included by default?
[05:36] <ziroday> osmosis: because it was no longer developed and had stability issues
[05:36] <hyampomeranian> I want to enable cookies.  I get the report, from sites that require cookies, that they are not enabled.  At /Edit/Preverences/Privacy Firefox reports that it will remember the history.  If I change the setting my changes are not remembered by Firefox.
[05:37] <LizardK|ng> ugh, how do i get a kernel for xen in karmic?
[05:37] <iflema> osmosis: banshee... isnt it a mono thing
[05:39] <neezer> slesnett: is there a way I can tell to make sure my laptop even has bluetooth. I have checked online and I think it does.
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> iflema: yes, and for me it has a small memory leak
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> iflema: BUT... it is the only player that fully cooperates with cairo-dock applets
[05:40] <osmosis> ziroday, is there a replacement for tracker?
[05:40] <iflema> bastid_raZor: it ball parks it... but its crap/crashed
[05:40] <ziroday> osmosis: beagle?
[05:40] <osmosis> ziroday, kinda sucks that after nearly a decade gnome has no decent file syste search tool.
[05:40] <ziroday> osmosis: or you can still use tracker, its just not shipped by default
[05:40] <osmosis> ziroday, i thought tracker replaced beagle
[05:40] <ziroday> osmosis: there are plans to change that for GNOME 3.0
[05:40] <peekat> terinjokes: Okay, I updated my interfaces as shown (and I'd already set up the wap_supplicant.conf file earlier) and now my GUI doesn't show ANY connection -- if I click on the earth, it lists the connection name, but clicking on it produces nothing. I don't think Kubuntu likes me trying to configure stuff in the shell....
[05:41] <ziroday> osmosis: no, beagle and tracker are just two different search tools
[05:42] <apollogod> hello
[05:42] <maverick340> hi , is there a way i can send emails to specefied emails IDs based on the file name (which will probably have the name of the author as the first word) ?
[05:43] <peekat> Maybe the driver is just bad -- weird that it'd scan fine, recognize fine, etc., but then screw up the connection...
[05:43] <Fog> how do i find out how frequently /tmp gets emptied?
[05:44] <maco> Fog: on reboot
[05:44] <Fog> always?
[05:44] <Fog> in every linux?
[05:44] <maco> Fog: yep
[05:44] <PyroPhelia> i'm a little confused as to how mdadm handles failed disks and rebuilds.  I had a disk fail in a raid 6 so I replaced it with an identical drive and added it to the array.  now it says the array is degraded and rebuilding with 1 spare.  how do I make that drive I added to the array active?
[05:44] <maco> think so...
[05:44] <Fog> k thanks
[05:44] <iceroot> Fog: on reboot, also some apps are using /mp and deleting content after the program is finished
[05:44] <maco> id be surprised if temporary files didnt go away on reboot
[05:44] <iceroot> Fog: /tmp
[05:44] <maco> thatd defy the definition of temporary
[05:45] <iceroot> !crosspost | PyroPhelia
[05:46] <peekat> << going to try compiling a new driver
[05:46] <spO> Warning: DS_Filter() no such class object.  (DLL=CoreAVCDecoder.ax)
[05:46] <mitchnboof> :-D
[05:47] <mitchnboof> hey guys
[05:47] <PyroPhelia> iceroot, debian != ubuntu.  I don't care if you don't like it, stuff it.
[05:47] <askvictor> is it possible to check the integrity of files installed via apt/dpkg?
[05:48] <maco> askvictor: debsums
[05:48] <nomnex> expend all folders/sub-folders in list view - nautilus, anybody? There seems to be no such function
[05:48] <mitchnboof> I've just been playing with Ubuntu and I've hit a small snag while mucking around with themes. Wondering if one of you blokes can help?
[05:48] <quietone> when I try to add a printer that is on another ubuntu machine on home network all I get is "no printer found:
[05:49] <maco> hrmph. blokes. *wanders off, unwanted*
[05:50] <iceroot> PyroPhelia: :) good luck finging an answer after that
[05:50] <hyampomeranian> I've another problem.  edid finds my Dell 1440x900 monitor but xrandr sets my max resolution to 1280x1040.  Im new to Linux, does anyone know how to get Ubuntu 9.10 to recognize the monitor?  There's an xorg.conf file but it looks like a template with no real data in it.  Thanks.
[05:50] <mitchnboof> hahah ok blokes and "sheilas"
[05:50] <mitchnboof> hows that?
[05:50] <iflema> nomnex: the left pane in nautilus across from the close icon(X) it'll prob say in drop down box places... select tree
[05:52] <PyroPhelia> iceroot, your point? debian != ubuntu.  debian works.
[05:52] <nomnex> iflema, the question is how to expend folders in list view
[05:52] <iceroot> PyroPhelia: my point is that crosspostings are not very welcome, thats all
[05:52] <nomnex> iflema, the same as ls-lR command
[05:53] <bean> PyroPhelia: ubuntu is based on debian
[05:53] <gee> yo can anyone help with a blank dvd recognition problem
[05:53] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta?
[05:54] <PyroPhelia> bean, no centos is based off of redhat.  ubuntu is nothing like debian.  the only similarity is the packaging system.
[05:54] <iceroot> PyroPhelia: ubuntu is debian sid with patches
[05:54] <PyroPhelia> right
[05:54] <bean> PyroPhelia: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian
[05:54] <PyroPhelia> lol
[05:55] <PyroPhelia> sid = broken = ubuntu
[05:55] <PyroPhelia> my point stands
[05:55] <surgy> ubuntu == brokbuntu
[05:55] <PyroPhelia> and how did this begin, I didn't come here to rag on ubutnu.
[05:55] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta?
[05:55] <bean> I don't get why you're so cynical about this PyroPhelia, its not broken and works for me™
[05:55] <gee> can anyone tell me why ubuntu is recognizing all my blank dvd+r as having a 2.1 gig file on them
[05:55] <PyroPhelia> bean, ext4
[05:55] <bean> PyroPhelia: then don't use ext4?
[05:56] <nomnex> gee, do you try another DVD? what's the output?
[05:56] <PyroPhelia> i'm pretty sure it's teh defualt fs now isn't it?
[05:56] <Ryan1> I've been using ext4 since Jaunty and haven't had any problems
[05:56] <Fog> do debian users not like ubuntu ?
[05:56] <PyroPhelia> s/teh/the
[05:56] <nightsjammies> Hey, does anyone in here have a compaq presario running karmic?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> gee:  i recall some issues with brassero not properly seeing empty disks. k3b worked for me however.
[05:56] <bean> PyroPhelia: I don't know why you're basing ext4 tho
[05:56] <gee> yeah i tried a few....and what do you mean output?
[05:56] <Ryan1> nightsjammies: Yes
[05:56] <bean> Fog: I love both debian and ubuntu
[05:56] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta?
[05:56] <Fezzler> Yahoo mail is blocking an email from Korg.  I've turned off SPAM filter, I've added Korg to my Contacts.  Nothing
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Compaq presairo = a lot of different laptops
[05:57] <gee> ill try k3b then...does it burn iso images?
[05:57] <faileas> nightsjammies: i have a very old one that does. hardware isn't all that different between brands these days
[05:57] <faileas> gee: yes
[05:57] <nightsjammies> Do you have any issues with suspend and the display brightness coming back dim?
[05:57] <nightsjammies> true..
[05:57] <gee> cool
[05:57] <nightsjammies> it's a CQ60
[05:57] <Fog> i like ubuntu. but i'm not religous about it. i'd jump ship in a second if i thought something was better for me
[05:57] <nightsjammies> I like eeebuntu.
[05:57] <Ryan1> nightsjammies: I don't suspend it, I just set the display to turn off when the lid is closed
[05:57] <nightsjammies> I tried opensuse...what a friggin pain.
[05:58] <Fog> does eeebuntu run better on an eeepc than nbr?
[05:58] <nightsjammies> I know, as do I. But it's my wife's laptop, and so I wanted to try out the suspend option.
[05:58] <nightsjammies> eeebuntu is nbr.
[05:58] <nomnex> gee, u r on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:58] <PyroPhelia> bean, the utils that ubuntu ships with do not allow for the creation of large file systes with ext4.  they are limited at 15TB.  even if ext4 was stable, why the hell would you make ext4 your defualt FS when it's about as useless as ext3....and more buggy
[05:58] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta?
[05:58] <nightsjammies> NBR is just the remix of the standard desktop.
[05:59] <PyroPhelia> bean, and you can stop at any time.  SID is debians still in development tree.  they don't call it stable for a reason
[05:59] <nightsjammies> And yes, it runs very good.
[05:59] <Fog> i have an eeepc with nbr
[05:59] <gee> ubuntu
[05:59] <Fog> it's alright but i prefer the normal ubuntu interface
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> surgy:  if its a kde app = proberly in .kde* somewhere
[05:59] <nightsjammies> what series Fog?
[05:59] <iceroot> PyroPhelia: dont use ubuntu if you hate it so much
[05:59] <Fog> 1005hab
[05:59] <bastid_raZor> PyroPhelia: what average desktop user has a box with 15TB in it? you're missing the entire point.
[05:59] <bean> PyroPhelia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 tells me that the max volume size is 1 EiB
[05:59] <nightsjammies> If I recall, they put in a way to disable the nbr interface.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> surgy:  thers also .config  that has stuff in it.
[06:00] <nightsjammies> Go to the eeebuntu forums and ask around.
[06:00] <PyroPhelia> bean, the kernel supports file suystems of that large yes.  but you can't format a raid larger than 15TB
[06:00] <nightsjammies> do you have 3.o?
[06:00] <nomnex> gee, u cannot burn anything on them using brasero?
[06:00] <PyroPhelia> bean, it has the same limitations as ext3.  for now.
[06:00] <gee> brasero?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> ANd here i am with my brand new 200000TB flash drive...
[06:00] <gee> :D im a definate noob
[06:00] <nightsjammies> o.O
[06:00] <PyroPhelia> bastid_raZor, many people with home media centers.
[06:00] <nomnex> gee the default gnome burning CD DVD tool
[06:00] <surgy> Dr_Willis: no no its a gnome app
[06:00] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta?
[06:01] <PyroPhelia> bastid_raZor, 2TB drives are cheap
[06:01] <bean> PyroPhelia: give me a link that that shows that then
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> surgy:  .gnome* then most likely under one of those dirs
[06:01] <nightsjammies> Hey, is it possible to burn the original xbox games onto a disk for use?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> nightsjammies:  ive seen it done with modd'ed xbox's yes.
[06:01] <nightsjammies> How do you mod the xbox?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> nightsjammies:  with mod chips..
[06:01] <iceroot> nightsjammies: this is ubuntu support
[06:01] <nightsjammies> is it a software or hardware fix?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> nightsjammies:  'yes' :)
[06:02] <bastid_raZor> PyroPhelia: true, but the masses do not have a need for 2TB's of drive space. the majority emails and surfs the web..
[06:02] <gee> yeah i went under properties on each disc i tried and it always said it had a 2.1 gig file on it
[06:02] <nightsjammies> Thanks iceroot. I forgot where I was :p
[06:02] <PyroPhelia> bean, I've done it myself I know the limitation.
[06:02] <nomnex> Dr_Willis, how can I expand all folder/sub-folders in nautilus in list view?
[06:02] <nightsjammies> figures..
[06:02] <gee> but now k3b is saying its got 4.4 gigs of free space so hopefully it works
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> nomnex:  never noticed. really.
[06:02] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta? (in order to configure for the allegro library)
[06:02] <tapio> Trying to get some songs transfered to my zen, but when I plug in my mp3 player something is using it, and the software says that the device is busy. How can I figure out what is using it?
[06:03] <bastid_raZor> PyroPhelia: i've been using computers for 20  years and my home system has just now eclipsed 3TB. i do far more than the average user too.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> gee:  yea. not sure what the deal is. theres been issues with brasero on and off  since 9.10's been out
[06:03] <nomnex> Dr_Willis, pardon me?
[06:03] <nightsjammies> Wait,  what issues?
[06:03] <nightsjammies> Is there something better than brasero?
[06:03] <bean> PyroPhelia: then use a different fs for your raid?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> nomnex:  ive never noticed any key combo/menu item to do it.   I rarely use listview
[06:03] <iceroot> nightsjammies: k3b
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> nightsjammies:  i perfer k3b ovber brasero
[06:04] <nightsjammies> is k3b for kde?
[06:04] <iceroot> nightsjammies: yes
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !info k3b
[06:04] <nightsjammies> or can I use it with gnome?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> nightsjammies:  yes you can.
[06:04] <iceroot> nightsjammies: but you can use it with gnome (need some kde libs)
[06:04] <gee> yeah its workin now with k3b i really appreciate the help guys...maybe one day i will posess the knowledge to assist you in the helping of future noobs such as i
[06:04] <nomnex> Dr_Willis, neither have I, I was looking under Gconf, not to avail.
[06:04] <nightsjammies> Ooh...k. Thanks guys.
[06:04] <nomnex> nightfrog, yes
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> k3b is getting really good.  :)
[06:05] <DaZ> k3b always was really good [;
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I had some issues with it a release or 2 ago..    but none lately
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Ups and downs of contant changeing of programs :)
[06:06] <iceroot> there are not many good kde-applications but k3b is one
[06:06] <surgy> iceroot: WHAT?
[06:06] <bastid_raZor> k3b and ktorrent are the only two applications i borrow from kde
[06:06]  * Dr_Willis pokes iceroot  with a clock plasmid.
[06:06] <chiques> k3b rocks
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Oh wait its a plasmoid.
[06:06] <surgy> lol EXACTLY
[06:06] <surgy> kde 4 rawks
[06:06] <ziroday> the kde discussions is best had in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:07] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: you know kontact...  hell on earth
[06:07] <surgy> ziroday: !offtopic
[06:07] <surgy> !offtopic
[06:07] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta? (in order to configure for the allegro library)
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[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Ive had issues with ktorrent lately -  been using rtorrent  and it seems a lot faster in the few torrents ive grabbed lately
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  i only use gmail for my mail and thasts abouit it.
[06:07] <deserteagle> i'm trying to uninstall a package, but it fails, what can i do?
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[06:07] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: dou you also have buffer-overflows using rtorrent for some days?
[06:07] <bastid_raZor> transmission does fine.. i don't need all the extra graphs/info on the laptop.
[06:08] <surgy> i dont even use ubuntu anymore i was just hoping you guys could help me with anjuta
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[06:08] <Fog> i downloaded netbook remix 9.10. is that considered nbr 3.0?
[06:09] <deserteagle> i'm trying to uninstall a package, but it doesn't want to erase it due to an alleged "missing file" what can i do?
[06:09] <turtle_> halleluja
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> iceroot:  never noticed any. Most of my torrents get done in  an hr or 3
[06:09] <iceroot> Dr_Willis: i was running a torrent server with ubuntu and debian for one week, always the same, crash
[06:10] <surgy> can someone tewll me where "settings" is in anjuta? (in order to configure for the allegro library)
[06:10] <bean> surgy:  if its like a regular package it should be in /etc/anjuta or somesuch
[06:11] <deserteagle> anyone know how to force the deletion of a deb package?
[06:11] <chiques> So is Vista to Windows like the Pinto was for Ford?
[06:11] <bean> surgy:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55784
[06:12] <surgy> bean: no no im not using a debian based system or even a buntu based system...... im trying to figure out how to get to the compiler/linker options so i can set up allegro
[06:12] <bean> surgy:  then why ask here :P: just read the post i linked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55784
[06:13] <surgy> bean: "
[06:13] <surgy> Then start a regular console project in Anjuta and add `allegro-config --libs` (with the backticks) to
[06:13] <surgy> Settings->Compiler and linker options->Options->Linker flags
[06:13] <surgy> i cant find "Settings"
[06:14] <shawnboy> Greetings. I need to run kernel 2.6.32. Wondering which to get from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[06:14] <Alan502> Stupid question, where can i see lastest modified files? I just copied some stuff i can't find where
[06:14] <Alan502> :|
[06:15] <bean> surgy:  could try reading this. http://library.gnome.org/devel/anjuta-manual/stable/project-config.html.en
[06:17] <terinjokes> i'm running two computers on a subnet with a linux box acting as a router, any ideas on how to forward multicast
[06:17] <bean> Alan502:  could try find ./ -type f -mtime -1 -exec ls -al {} \;
[06:17] <bean> Alan502:  that will give you files modified today
[06:18] <Alan502> bean, thanks man :)
[06:19] <lotus> Dr_Willis I redid the install and I'm currently trying to install grub to /dev/sdc again
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  way to go! :)
[06:19] <lotus> Dr_Willis, you previously suggested that there might be an issue with the mapping, I think you're right.  How can I verify and correct the mapping issue?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  your grub-fu skills will improve Lotus-eater!
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:19] <lotus> :)
[06:19] <Eruaran> Has anyone else seen the "cannot update ICEauthority" problem after letting Ubuntu do lupdates recently ?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  chedk the device.map file
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  its a rather simple file
[06:20] <Guest88969> is there any backup solution, which takes all the data backups with OS in archive formate and in emergency i can use that archive to recover my host ?
[06:20] <faileas> Guest88969: on a running system? no idea. if you don't mind downtime to backup, clonezilla isn't bad
[06:20] <bean> terinjokes: might want to check out SMCRoute
[06:21] <koshari> Guest88969 patimage will do that if oyu havnt used ext4
[06:21] <lotus> Dr_Willis, trying to find it.  It apparently appears on the usb drive (which doesn't quite make sense to me) and I'm waiting to see it show up somewhere else on the ramdisk
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest88969:  check fsarchiver --> http://www.fsarchiver.org/Main_Page   also
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  yea the ramdisk/live filesystem can be odd due to how it does overlays and stuff..
[06:21] <shawnboy> I've used fsarchiver that comes on sysresccd
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> lotus:  the update-grub command can take a lot of options to where to look for such files
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> fsarchiver  - to be in the 10.4 repos.. and has PPA repos now. :)
[06:22] <koshari> iam yet to have as good as results on fsarchiver than partimage , shame partimage is abandonware though
[06:22] <terinjokes> bean: how? i don't understand the upnp and multicasting needed to make this work
[06:22] <surgy> openSuse is better*
[06:22] <lotus> Dr_Willis, found it in /target  it lists /dev/sda as hd0, sdb as hd1, and sdc as hd2
[06:23] <lotus> Dr_Willis, thanks for the help this far
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fsarchiver.org/Fsarchiver_vs_partimage
[06:23] <desynch> does anyone here run beef on ubuntu?
[06:23] <Fog> how can i tell which version of nbr i have?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !info beef
[06:23] <shawnboy> anybody know whether I should grab kernel <IP_ADDRESS> or 2.6.32-rc8?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Im so glad they made it flexiable!
[06:24] <lotus> lol
[06:24] <faileas> Dr_Willis: something has to be flexible, once they break your mind
[06:24] <LizardK|ng> !xen
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Im inflexiable in my demand for flexability!
[06:24] <LizardK|ng> i been there, i need a xen kernel
[06:24]  * NRV is knocking off
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Ive never managed to understand xen. :)
[06:24] <brianherman> anyone know a good tutorial on xen?
[06:24] <surgy> LizardK|ng: why do you need a xen kernal?
[06:25] <LizardK|ng> surgy, to run xen
[06:25] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, it's a hypervisor
[06:25] <brianherman> im gonna run xen in vmware
[06:25] <brianherman> hehe
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng: yea - i understand the basics.. :) i just dont really have a need for it. and when i tryed to play with it a few releases ago.. i ended up.. breaking things.. heh
[06:25] <Saano> Would anyone mind helping me resolve my resolution issue? Messing with xorg on my own has never ended well.
[06:25] <nomad77> shawnboy: the <IP_ADDRESS> is a newer/more recent version
[06:26] <shawnboy> newer than rc8?
[06:26] <nomad77> yuh
[06:26] <shawnboy> can u explain why .2 is not rc10? (for my understanding sake)
[06:26] <LizardK|ng> but as far i as i understand, you need a kernel with xen options enabled
[06:26] <Saano> Is it possible to use two different video cards in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  check the pacakge manager? i was thinking there was -xen kernels.. but that may of been in 9.04 or earlier.
[06:26] <terinjokes> bean: ?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Saano:  yes it is.
[06:27] <bean> terinjokes: I don't know specifically how to make it work,
[06:27] <nomad77> shawnboy: just the nomenclature they use for kernel versions. kernel.org
[06:28] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, looks like i need to get it from debian
[06:28] <shawnboy> so, if I want to run 2.6.32 kernel I guess I may as well get <IP_ADDRESS> instead of rc8, huh?
[06:28] <smoo2> hello, having probs with permissions. I've just copied a directory full of music to the Music dir under my home, but now I cannot cd Music/  ... I get a permission denied error
[06:28] <chiques> So for some crazy reason, I ended up recompiling my kernel to install oss sound drivers to try to get my fax modem to work.  Is there any way to recompile my kernel so I I can use my ALSA again? I hope this makes sense
[06:28] <desynch> !info grsec
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> smoo2:  coppied how?
[06:28] <faileas> chiques: you can prolly check if the old one is still in grub
[06:28] <desynch> !info grsecurity
[06:28] <bean> smoo2: I'd recommend doing chmod 755 ~/music
[06:28] <faileas> then boot to that, or chose that as the default
[06:28] <nomad77> shawnboy: http://kernel.org/
[06:28] <bean> smoo2: or ~/Music
[06:29] <chiques> I have tried to run the older kernel but same results so I'm thinking something is linked to the profile
[06:29] <smoo2> Dr_Willis: i did something like: mv /media/usb-hd/Music ~/Music
[06:29] <desynch> which is better in performance, gnome or KDE?
[06:29] <shawnboy> Thanks, nomad77.
[06:29] <koshari> bean with the recursive switch
[06:29] <rashmi>  /join #drupal-infrastructure
[06:29] <bean> koshari: ah true its getting late here...
[06:29] <mh512> Hello, I got a dumb qns here... is it possible to authenticate thunderbird through kerberos on ubuntu?
[06:29] <turtle_> xfce
[06:29] <bean> smoo2: chmod -R 755 ~/Music
[06:29] <turtle_> desynch: xfce
[06:29] <faileas> desynch: well, try them and see. they both have their advantages and disadvantages. there's better choices if you want speed over everything else
[06:29] <smoo2> bean:  thanks
[06:29] <iflema> desynch: gnome for sure.....
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> smoo2:  so you replaced your Music dir's pemissions with the ones from the usb drive  Im betting.
[06:30] <smoo2> I was trying 644..
[06:30] <desynch> i see
[06:30] <desynch> !info xfce
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> smoo2:  a directory must be 'executable; for you to 'enter' it.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <iflema> desynch: maybe xubuntu
[06:30] <desynch> is it possible for me to change now from gnome to xfce?
[06:30] <smoo2> Dr_Willis: I didnt know that, thanks! I keep learning!
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> desynch:  select your desktop from the gdm menus once you select a user.
[06:30] <bean> desynch : apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <desynch> i see
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> after installing the other desktops.. of course. :)
[06:31] <desynch> thanks
[06:31] <koshari> desynch: yes sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop,
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Just dont go crazy and install 'lubuntu-desktop' - that one can cause.. err.. issues.. :)
[06:33] <desynch> where can i find gdm menu?
[06:33] <iflema> desynch: login screen
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> desynch:  the login screen is GDM.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> select a user.. look at the menus at the  bottom
[06:33] <desynch> i see
[06:33] <desynch> heheeh
[06:33] <desynch> oks
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Its a little confuseing that they dont appear Until you select a user.
[06:34] <ralf_e> are there plans to replace apparmor in ubuntu? (just wondering if it makes sense to create profiles for it at this point in time)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ralf_e:  ive not heard mention about replaceing it.. #ubuntu+1 may know.
[06:35] <desynch> so is it safe now is i issue the command apt-get install xfce-desktop?
[06:35] <bean> yes
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ralf_e:  actually You hear very little about apparmor really.
[06:35] <bean> desynch:  i'd do xubuntu-desktop
[06:35] <iflema> desynch: im up in gnome shit happ'nen..... started at boot... footprint = 230[odd]mb of ram....
[06:36] <desynch> hmmmm ...
[06:36] <ralf_e> Dr_Willis, yeah, it seems pretty much dead, that's why I'm asking.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> desynch:   xubuntu-desktop should be safe. but it may change your default gdm/splash themes also.. (no big deal)
[06:36] <desynch> im up now with gnome and works fine
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Ive gotten where i dont care much for the xfce desktop.. just to many annoying quirks. :)
[06:36] <desynch> Dr_Willis, which is more nice, xubuntu-desktop or xfce-desktop?
[06:37] <desynch> can i install them both now?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu is using xfce desynch
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> !info xfce-desktop
[06:37] <desynch> i see
[06:37] <surgy> desynch: equally crap
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> there is NO xfce-desktop package.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:37] <brianherman> xmonad!
[06:37] <desynch> =)
[06:37] <desynch> hehehe
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> !info flvm
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> !info flwm
[06:37] <brianherman> !info twm
[06:37] <desynch> !info xfce-desktop
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> flwm is smaller. :)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> twm aparently has been getting some updates however.
[06:38] <nmvictor> when you do chmod x+w <file> what does x take if you wanted the file to have write permisions for the file?
[06:38] <brianherman> !info xmonad
[06:38] <desynch> !info KDE
[06:38] <desynch> !info kde
[06:38] <desynch> !info kde-desktop
[06:38] <iflema> kde is the community
[06:38] <bean> !info kubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <brianherman> kde is smaller
[06:38] <brianherman> :)
[06:38] <iflema> now
[06:38] <nmvictor> !info chmod
[06:39] <surgy> KDE + buntu == sux this is a gnome driven community (yuck)
[06:39] <iflema> lol
[06:39] <brianherman> !info bash
[06:39] <smoo2> any quick pointers for how to combine the contents of two directories? I have my new ~/Music/ folder and I also have an older ~/mp3/ dir, some files are in both, some not, its a mess!
[06:39] <desynch> does kubuntu-desktop also uses xfce?
[06:39] <surgy> desynch: kubuntu uses KDE
[06:39] <desynch> i see
[06:39] <desynch> KDE is very slow
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> TWM updated for 2010 - xrender support and moar! --> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzg1NQ
[06:39] <peekat-AFK> terinjokes + faileas: My wireless card is WORKING! And now I want to *really* put my head through the wall. This whole time I've been trying to compile a new rt61 driver (in vain, cuz of some issue where the network_struct object has changed), and I came across some advice. I changed the MTU from "auto" to "1000". THAT DID IT.  Why is there an auto setting it it doesn't WORK?!?" Hehehe...
[06:40] <brianherman> Dr_willis i heard about that
[06:40] <surgy> desynch: kde is not slow
[06:40] <peekat> Back, obviously.
[06:40] <desynch> i've been using fedora and fedora is up with KDE
[06:40]  * faileas is currently using openbox for a light system. its REALLY fast for a box running off usb ;p
[06:40] <faileas> peekat: the ralink cards are bit.. special ;p
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> X Render support has been added (including transparency support).  in twm :) yea.
[06:41] <karmst> Hello Everyone
[06:42] <karmst> What folders need to be backed up to restore Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:42] <peekat> I ended up deleting all the stuff from /etc/network/interfaces and all the changes, and made that one little change.  I need to head over to linuxforums and linuxquestions and make a post for the next poor jackass who ends up in this situation. If I can save just one person, it's worth it. :)
[06:42] <gl1tch3r> hey guys, is there a way to reset karmic to its default config? because weird stuff is happening to my system after a strange bug I had earlier today
[06:42] <peekat> Thank you both VERY MUCH for your help, though. I really appreciate all of the advice. For my next vacation, I'm heading over to RALink's headquarters and slapping the hell out of everyone there. :)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[06:43] <karmst> Night Dr
[06:44] <karmst> I'm trying to use Deja Dup and it's asking me what all needs to be backed up
[06:44] <Mikeyx13> does neone know how to set it up in vsftpd where the user you create can upload files
[06:44] <gl1tch3r> I hitted a bug where karmic started eating all my freespace, and after the reboot I lost my desktop preferences and panel settings, and now, I have random keyboard lockups, the panel menus doesnt open sometimes
[06:44] <karmst> does anyone now what files are needed for backup and restore of the entire Ubuntu Karmic?
[06:45] <eein> does 9.10 use an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:45] <karmst> <noob here
[06:45] <Mikeyx13> help?
[06:45] <karmst> like what does the /dev folder do?
[06:45] <surgy> karmst: a live cd ?
[06:46] <bean> karmst:  you dont need /proc or /dev
[06:46] <gl1tch3r> anyone?
[06:46] <karmst> ok what about lib, lib32, lib64?
[06:46] <Viper1432> typically karnst, you would backup your /home directory.  Then use the live cd to install without overwriting /home.  done.
[06:46] <karmst> eein yes 9.10 uses xorg.conf
[06:47] <karmst> but Viper1432 what if you want to bring your programs and settings over as well to the new installation
[06:47] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: I think you got a virus :P
[06:47] <eein> karmst: sorry to ask but do you know mint because I have the fortune of fixing a graphic issue on it and it does not seem to have one and I thought it was built around ubuntu
[06:48] <karmst> I've used mint
[06:48] <Viper1432> karnst, by keeping /home intact, it DOES keep your settings.  All you have to redo is apt-get apps that aren't on the base install.  The settings will be in your /home folder.
[06:48] <karmst> but don't really know it that well
[06:48] <karmst> so then VMware Workstations and VM's will be backed up?
[06:49] <eein> karmst: ok thanks I was just checking that there wasn't some major change to X that I was unaware of
[06:49] <Viper1432> if you are saving those in /home, then yes karmst
[06:49] <cdsboy> I'm having an issue with streaming video from a samba share on my local server. I didn't have this issue before i did a clean install of ubuntu upgrading 8.10 to 9.10, and i have no idea where to begin looking to find out what is wrong. Any suggestions on what to check?
[06:49] <karmst> hmmm
[06:50] <karmst> where are all the configuration files at and desktop settings and applications in home?
[06:50] <karmst> I see them in /etc
[06:50] <karmst> but not in home
[06:50] <Viper1432> karmst,  open nautilus and do a ctrl+h to view hidden files in your /home directory.
[06:51] <Viper1432> config folders and files are always prefixed with a dot making them hidden.
[06:51] <karmst> ah
[06:51] <gl1tch3r> isolat3dsh33p, ROFL
[06:51] <Viper1432> which is why backing up /home, or keeping it on a separate partition is always good advice when needing to reinstall or build anew.
[06:52] <karmst> so basically if I make my home folder portable I'd be able to go to any Ubuntu 9.10 machine and load up all my progs and settings?
[06:52] <Viper1432> theoretically karmst  but if that were the desire, then using a livecd plus the usb drive as storage option would be the way to go.
[06:53] <Viper1432> And if you tried to do that on my ubuntu boxes, I'd have ta slap you.
[06:53] <Viper1432> :)
[06:53] <karmst> man this OS is really slick
[06:53] <gl1tch3r> no, really, this is getting annoying, first I thought it was the OSD and I disabled it, but just now I watched a video and the menu and I wanted to open the SYSTEM menu and I couldnt
[06:53] <gl1tch3r> I had to restart
[06:53] <karmst> Extremely better than windows
[06:53] <karmst> ;)
[06:54] <Viper1432> yes it is karmst.  :)
[06:54] <karmst> without image backup in windows it takes like 20 hours to reload a box
[06:54] <terinjokes> correct me if i'm wrong, shouldn't multicast work with only a dumb hub?
[06:55] <bean> terinjokes: I think that's correct...
[06:55] <unop> terinjokes, what's a dumb hub?
[06:55] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: gnome?
[06:55] <selfimage> terinjokes: no,, multicast works on any network device that has it enables
[06:55] <gl1tch3r> yup
[06:55] <selfimage> and hubs are dumb by design
[06:55] <karmst> so where can I find documentation on what each of the root folders do?
[06:55] <karmst> and how they work in the OS?
[06:56] <gl1tch3r> isolat3dsh33p, yes, gnome
[06:56] <selfimage> check the ubuntu docs wiki
[06:56] <angelus|sleep> folks, if i have a process i cant end via, xkill, kill, killall or the System Monitor ... is there another way to destroy it ??
[06:56] <gl1tch3r> angelus|sleep, bazooka :D
[06:56] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: did you add any new applets to the panel?
[06:56] <karmst> what about xkill -force?
[06:57] <unop> karmst, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[06:57] <gl1tch3r> yes I did, but was working fine until today, and I havent add new ones since last week
[06:57] <angelus|sleep> karmst, xkill doesnt have a -force option
[06:57] <terinjokes> selfimage: so i could unplug my server from the hub (which is the gateway, provides DHCP, and the such) and these two computer shauld still work with multicast?
[06:57] <bean> karmst:  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[06:57] <unop> angelus|sleep, some processes cannot be killed, depends on the state of the process as per 'ps'
[06:58] <Viper1432> karmst,   here is also another set of info for newer linux users:  http://alinuxblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/10-must-have-linux-not-only-cheat-sheet/
[06:58] <selfimage> terinjokes:  you aren't using a hub.. you are using a router that you bought at the store to share you Inet connection correct?
[06:58] <angelus|sleep> sorry, ignore that ... apparently i did end process, kill process seems to work .... :S
[06:58] <terinjokes> selfimage: nope, i've got a hub
[06:58] <angelus|sleep> weird  ...
[06:59] <selfimage> so your server is supplying your DHCP?
[06:59] <terinjokes> (ok... it says it's a switch...)
[06:59] <terinjokes> selfimage: i just said that
[06:59] <gl1tch3r> isolat3dsh33p,  yes I did, but was working fine until today, and I havent add new ones since last week
[06:59] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: I'm not sure, could be compiz problem or the applet. Maybe you should try removing the new applet.
[06:59] <selfimage> yes in theory it should
[06:59] <unop> terinjokes, the switch has got to support multicast then
[07:00] <gl1tch3r> mmhhh you think compiz may be? I think you could be right, didnt think of that
[07:00] <karmst> great
[07:00] <terinjokes> unop: any way to know that? somewhere these multicast packets are getting lost
[07:00] <karmst> ;)
[07:00] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: Just a possibility though. :)
[07:01] <gl1tch3r> if I delete the .compic settings folder could it fix it? im trying that
[07:01] <gl1tch3r> compiz i meant
[07:01] <karmst> so then you really don't need Anti-Virus on Ubuntu?
[07:01] <isolat3dsh33p> gl1tch3r: You don't have to. Just disable compiz. « metacity --replace »
[07:01] <Misantropo> my system is using almost all the swap and my RAM is at 35%. How can i check which process is using that swap??  i tried system monitor, but there is no Swap choice under the columns available, there is just Virtual Memory, which in sum is more than what i have for SWAP
[07:01] <morpheus_> karmst yes
[07:02] <isolat3dsh33p> karmst: Nope, you need Anti-Bugs. ;)
[07:02] <unop> terinjokes, errm, monitor traffic using something like wireshark ?
[07:02] <gl1tch3r> im going to miss compiz lol
[07:02] <selfimage> Minsatropo: ps -ef
[07:02] <terinjokes> unop: but the server's no longer connected ;)
[07:02] <morpheus_> isolat3dsh33p No, you need hands.pl and brain.so
[07:02] <wolter> how do i select the default input source in gnome?
[07:03] <isolat3dsh33p> morpheus_: You means fingers.sh?
[07:03]  * terinjokes wonder's who great idea it was to *force* the use of 8-digit connection codes and muliticasting
[07:04] <morpheus_> isolat3dsh33p print 'maybe, but not for me %)'
[07:04] <wolter> i think you need to stop the computer jokes, this is not getting any better
[07:04] <selfimage> terinjokes: some brainiack with a PhD
[07:04] <danielck> hmm, #ubuntu-server seems a bit dead, is there anyone who can help me with a locale issue on Hardy?
[07:04] <wolter> this as in the sanity of the channel's humo
[07:04] <wolter> r
[07:04] <danielck> the locale command gives me "POSIX" for everything exept LANG which is empty
[07:05] <petsounds> hi. is it possible to install gnome 2.28 on Jaunty?
[07:05] <maco> petsounds: no, whatever version it was shipped with, it keeps
[07:05] <maco> petsounds: with exception of bug fix and security updates
[07:05] <maco> petsounds: 2.28 is in karmic
[07:05] <phoebus> First off, wow. Grats to the ubuntu team AND community for this excellent release. This is actually becoming my defacto choice for... finally my laptop desktops. <3
[07:06] <phoebus> No questions, just wanted to express the love.
[07:06] <terinjokes> disabled the firewall on the PC... and it worked... go figure (should have ignored the "we've configured the firewall for you" message
[07:06] <phoebus> Being the guy who uses linux with a command line on a dedicated laptop .. but never really as a desktop.
[07:06] <acer1> hi
[07:07] <petsounds> maco, thank you for the info :-)
[07:07] <acer1> the front jack doesnt detect output on ubuntu 9.10 karmic, pls help, it was working until jaunty.
[07:07] <isolat3dsh33p> !test
[07:07] <phoebus> brb this gnome xchat interface looks like it'd only be fun post-config
[07:08] <terinjokes> spoke to soon.... got the most vague error message in my life.... leave it to MS
[07:09] <acer1> the front audio jack doesnt detect output on ubuntu 9.10 karmic, pls help, it was working until jaunty.
[07:09] <acer1> will i need to downgrade alsa or somthn?
[07:09] <acer1> pls help
[07:09] <acer1> thnx
[07:10] <isolat3dsh33p> acer1: check alsamixer
[07:10] <acer1> i did, install, and inspite of unmuting everythn, the front jack still doesnt work
[07:10] <isolat3dsh33p> what « aplay -l » gives you?
[07:12] <acer1> acer@acer-desktop ~ $  aplay -l
[07:12] <acer1> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[07:12] <acer1> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[07:12] <acer1>   Subdevices: 1/1
[07:12] <acer1>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[07:12] <FloodBot4> acer1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <drunkpunk> hey folks can anyone help me with a problem related to a LAMP server installation I implemented in order to use an online OS called eyeOs - I know this is kinda leftfield and quite posssibly off-topic...
[07:12] <phoebus> in fact, one simple thing, how do you change the default browser in ubuntu?
[07:13] <aaron11> Hello I want to know if the apple magic mouse would work with my favourite os.
[07:13] <Flannel> drunkpunk: You're better off just asking your question, and if anyone knows the answer, they'll answer you
[07:13] <acer1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/351650/    isolat3dsh33p
[07:13] <nbros652> phoebus: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[07:14] <drunkpunk> Flannel:  well the basic prob is I can now reach the desktop i created from my laptop whilst at home but nowhere else
[07:14] <phoebus> thank you nbros652
[07:14] <leissi> Morning everyone
[07:14] <Dan48p> hi is ext4 the default file system in ubuntu 9.10 64 bit?
[07:14] <Flannel> drunkpunk: You're behind a router at home, I trust?
[07:14] <aaron11> leissi: For some people its night
[07:14] <leissi> So I have this problem in ubuntu. My sound seems to stutter for a fragment of a second every now and then, is there any way to fix this?
[07:14] <drunkpunk> Flannel: i am indeed
[07:15] <phoebus> sweet, and thus opera is my browser, I'm now connected to my work... <3
[07:15] <aarcane> bah, stupid ext4.  xfs 4 lyfe!
[07:15] <isolat3dsh33p> acer1: are you using a desktop?
[07:15] <leissi> aaron11, let's pretend it's UGT everywhere :P
[07:15] <aaron11> Flannel: If his ip begins with 192.168 then yes
[07:15] <leissi> (universal greeting time)
[07:15] <karmst> Hey Thanks everyone Deja Dup works like a charm!
[07:15] <phoebus> 64-bit opera with 64-bit plugins, man.. linux on the bleeding edge ;)
[07:15] <acer1> isolat3dsh33p..yeah
[07:15] <Flannel> drunkpunk: You'll need to forward the port(s) you need on your router (to your server machine) -- This generally also means you'll want to set it up with a static IP
[07:15] <phoebus> This laptop ran vista, it's an sl400... boot time is down to.. uhh 15% of the time.
[07:15] <Dan48p> also is ext4 the proper file system to use with an ssd?
[07:16] <shauno> Is it possible to block specific users from sshd ? (like PermitRootLogin, but for a specific non-root user)
[07:16] <surgy> check it
[07:16] <surgy> http://imagebin.ca/view/AgMkn4.html
[07:16] <drunkpunk> Flannel: oh dear, now that sounds complex
[07:16] <isolat3dsh33p> acer1: I can't help you then. :(
[07:16] <wolter> hi, mi computer has the option to use "Analog Stereo Duplex" and "Digital Stereo Duplex" as sound devices... I don't know why "Digital *" doesn't work
[07:16] <surgy> gnome in all its glory
[07:16] <acer1> isolat3dsh33p .. whats wrong? does laptops have bug fixes and not desktops?
[07:16] <acer1> :O
[07:17] <Flannel> shauno: DenyUsers user1 user2 user3 (there's also DenyGroups if that's easier)
[07:17] <drunkpunk> Flannel: i've configured portfowarding for P2P is it a similar process?
[07:17] <shauno> Flannel: perfect, thanks
[07:17] <ac-lyon-karim> hi
[07:17] <aaron11> Hello I want to know if the apple magic mouse would work with ubuntu.
[07:17] <shauno> I knew it had to be there, but I didn't see anything obvious in sshd_config
[07:18] <isolat3dsh33p> acer1: Nope, I don't have enough knowledge on desktop to help. :(
[07:18] <acer1> ok, thnx for ur concern  :) good luck
[07:18] <acer1> isolat3dsh33p
[07:19] <Flannel> drunkpunk: It's exactly the same, yeah.  You'll just want to do it for http (port 80) or https (port 443).  And with regard to setting up a static IP (so you always forward to your server, even after a reboot where it might change IPs or whatnot): https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html under "ethernet" (sort of the fifth paragraph or so, search the page for 'static') there's a setup for a static IP
[07:19] <isolat3dsh33p> acer1: sorry can't help, btw ;)
[07:19] <acer1> its fine  the front audio jack doesnt detect output on ubuntu 9.10 karmic, pls help, it was working until jaunty.
[07:19] <crog> hi all
[07:19] <drunkpunk> Flannel: you are a true start
[07:20] <drunkpunk> *star
[07:20] <acer1> its fine isolat3dsh33p
[07:20] <acer1> :)
[07:20] <leissi> should I upgrade to karmic?
[07:20] <crog> looking for a program to play blu-ray in ubuntu.. was hoping to find either powerdvd for linux or lindvd? can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:20] <acer1>  the front audio jack doesnt detect output on ubuntu 9.10 karmic, pls help, it was working until jaunty.  pls help
[07:20] <wolter> leissi,
[07:20] <wolter> nothing
[07:20] <leissi> wat
[07:20] <phoebus> Guys, having issues unarchiving rar files, what is a decent linux alternative to 7-zip, or how do you get a gui and integration with 7zip? .. OR, what do you use for archives?
[07:21] <okan_> acer1 you should  upgrade your alsa to 1.0.21
[07:21] <wolter> acer1, you might want to run [$ alsamixer] in a terminal
[07:21] <wolter> and play around
[07:21] <wolter> Press Tab to see cool things happen
[07:21] <crog> anyone?
[07:21] <okan_> yes wolter is correct
[07:21] <okan_> try it
[07:22] <acer1> wolter, it doesnt work even after unmuting everythn
[07:22] <acer1> okan_ ..
[07:22] <okan_> ?
[07:22] <acer1> it workd for u?
[07:22] <drunkpunk>  Flannel:  Many thanks, will doubtless be back in 10 when i've ballsed it up ;-)
[07:22] <wolter> acer1, you mean it doesn't detect input?
[07:22] <acer1> no, output
[07:22] <iflema> wolter: yeah.. jaunty had a checkbox yeh.... a headphone option...
[07:22] <acer1> wolter
[07:22] <knight5482> Hello , does someone know how can i convert mp3 file into wav format from command line ?
[07:22] <petsounds> phoebus, you can install unrar.
[07:22] <okan_> outpput
[07:23] <okan_> he says output
[07:23] <faileas> knight5482: ffmpeg
[07:23] <wolter> acer1, hm... yeah so, you basically can't connect a jack to your computer to play sound externally
[07:23] <wolter> acer1, have you tried gnome-alsamixer?
[07:23] <surgy> acer1: tried openSuse ?
[07:24] <phoebus> I tried the free unrar, but guess it's command line based, late night feeling lazy. :P
[07:24] <acer1> nop, im used to connecting my headphone into the front audio jack, and the speakers to the rear audio jack, but since the karmic upgrade, the front jack doesnt detect output, but the rear jack works ok
[07:24] <acer1> wolter
[07:24] <knight5482> faileas: i looked at the manual but i didnt find the way, can you help me by giving me example ?
[07:25] <faileas> knight5482: hm. get winff. it has a mode to tell you the arguements . then use those ;p
[07:25] <acer1> opensuse 11.2 doesnt detect front jack ..fedora 11 & 12 doesnt either wolter
[07:25] <bean> acer1:  could be a bios setting then?
[07:25] <petsounds> phoebus, or you can download deb package for PeaZip http://peazip.sourceforge.net/
[07:25] <wolter> acer1, oh yeah.. i had a similar problem going on
[07:25] <brahmana> Hi all,
[07:25] <knight5482> can someone please help me and tell how can i convert mp3 file into wav ? (i am new in Ubuntu)
[07:26] <wolter> hm... I think i reinstalled pulseaudio, but don't really know what fixed it
[07:26] <wolter> maybe it was the reinstall
[07:26] <acer1> bean howcome?
[07:26] <brahmana> df -h is reporting very high disk usage for a partition where there are little to no files.
[07:26] <bean> knight5482: someone up there told u to check out winff
[07:26] <acer1> u got it fixed? i thought i needed a alsa downgrade
[07:26] <wolter> acer1, hm.. you sure nothings muted, or with lowered volume?
[07:26] <acer1> wolter
[07:26] <brahmana> du -csh shows it properly
[07:26] <isolat3dsh33p> knight5482: use sound converter
[07:26] <brahmana> Also df -i shows that a huge chunk of inodes is unused.
[07:27] <wolter> acer1, yes, I was doing that, but then I came back to pulse and it was fixed
[07:27] <brahmana> What is df (df -h specifically) is showing wrong numbers like 98% used?
[07:27] <brahmana> s/What/Why
[07:27] <alienpulse> hello
[07:27] <wolter> acer1, but when you open alsamixer do you see "Master Headphone <Something else>" ?
[07:27] <alienpulse> i am new
[07:28] <acer1> wolter, only headphone
[07:28] <acer1> and thats unmuted
[07:28] <chaitanya> can i install 32bit ubuntu on my 64 bit machine ?
[07:29] <allorder> chaitanya: of course
[07:29] <isolat3dsh33p> chaitanya: yes
[07:29] <surgy> chaitanya: yerp
[07:29]  * chaitanya will go and trash friends :P
[07:29] <alienpulse> so
[07:29] <alienpulse> how to talk ..
[07:29] <okan_> acer1 maybe you can look up this http://www.google.com.tr/#hl=tr&source=hp&q=jacksense&btnG=Google%27da+Ara&meta=&aq=f&oq=jacksense&fp=1d2f3d92cc82f82b
[07:29] <wolter> acer1, thats weird
[07:29] <alienpulse> to a sepecific user ?
[07:29] <automatik> anyone with knowledge on accessing mounted drives?
[07:29] <wolter> acer1, listen to okan, I will do a reboot
[07:29] <bean> alienpulse: what is your native language?
[07:29] <phoebus> next question, what is video player should I choose for decent codec support?
[07:29] <automatik> can't seem to do chmod on device
[07:30] <acer1> ok wolter..
[07:30] <leissi> My sound seems to stutter for a fragment of a second every now and then, is there any way to fix this?
[07:30] <acer1> okan_..lemme check
[07:30] <Ilmatic> can I see someone's xorg.conf file plzzzzzz
[07:30] <crog> looking for a program to play blu-ray in ubuntu.. was hoping to find either powerdvd for linux or lindvd? can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:30] <surgy> yo crog
[07:30] <crog> hello
[07:30] <surgy> crog: zip up i can see your xorg !!!!
[07:30] <crog> ?
[07:31] <surgy> lol
[07:31] <Ilmatic> plzzzz
[07:31] <surgy> !dvd
[07:31] <crog> !dvd
[07:31] <Ilmatic> i'm having a hard time dealing with my ubuntu screen resolution
[07:31] <surgy> !repeat
[07:31] <automatik> install winff
[07:31] <okan_> acer1 problem is headphone right? no sound  on headphones right?
[07:31] <Hilikus> is there an app to rip/encode/tag/replaygain/downloadCover CDs? something like abcde but with a GUI
[07:31] <alienpulse> ..
[07:31] <alienpulse> i wanna
[07:32] <alienpulse> chat with specific user how ?!!?!
[07:32] <crog> !dvd
[07:32] <automatik> anyone with info on accessing mounted drives
[07:33] <automatik> chmod is not working
[07:33] <bean> !il
[07:33] <surgy> !suse
[07:33] <iflema> leissi: do you know the model of sound card, have ya done any homework? in terminal type 'lspci -vv | grep Audio' should display ya card type..
[07:34] <bean> !arabic | alienpulse
[07:34] <okan_> acer1
[07:34] <acer1> yeah okan_
[07:35] <okan_> could you tell your problem again?
[07:35] <acer1> i tried adding "options snd-hda-intel model=z71v position_fix=1" to the alsa-base.conf
[07:35] <petsounds> phoebus, VLC, or you can install ubuntu restricted extras and add medibuntu to get extras codec.
[07:35] <acer1> okan_
[07:35] <acer1> the front jack doesnt detect output, but the rear jack works fine
[07:35] <Guest85688> is there any solution that i can allow user to be sudo on server but cann
[07:35] <okan_> hmmm
[07:36] <Guest85688> can't run reboot, shutdown command
[07:36] <okan_> z71v is correct according to you
[07:36] <bean> Guest17904:  there is ways to limit sudoers to certain commands
[07:36] <okan_> maybe it is wrong modul
[07:37] <selfimage> !sudo | Guest85688
[07:37] <acer1> okan_ mine is desktop
[07:37] <Ilmatic> can anyone help me modify my xorg.conf file?
[07:37] <okan_> what make is it your laptop? acer :)
[07:37] <okan_> sfsffsff
[07:37] <acer1> do does z71v make sense?
[07:37] <bean> Guest85688:  you can make it so they user = NOEXEC: /path/to/shutdown
[07:37] <acer1> lool
[07:37] <okan_> sory
[07:37] <okan_> :)
[07:37] <okan_> wait
[07:37] <acer1> k
[07:38] <terinjokes> bean: ended up not messing with tables... it finally just worked
[07:38] <okan_> acer cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[07:38] <bean> terinjokes: cool
[07:38] <okan_> writeoutput here
[07:39] <okan_> acer1 cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[07:39] <jasper2> hi everyone, how do I modify the bootloader in karmic? /boot/grub/menu.lst does not exist. :(
[07:39] <okan_> write output here
[07:39] <acer1> okan_ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[07:39] <acer1> gives
[07:39] <okan_> yes :)
[07:39] <acer1> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9227
[07:39] <selfimage> !grub2 | jasper2
[07:39] <okan_> ok wait again
[07:39] <okan_> :)
[07:39] <Kartagis> does anybody know where samba passwords file is kept?
[07:39] <jasper2> grub2
[07:39] <acer1> ok:P
[07:40] <jasper2> wth...
[07:40] <jasper2> since when ...
[07:40] <mneptok> okan_: please do not repeat unneccesarily
[07:40] <okan_> pfff ok
[07:40] <crog> i get this msg after installing script.. "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 is not a symbolic link" is this a problem.. i'm new at linux?
[07:40] <isolat3dsh33p> jasper2: since 9.10 =_=
[07:40] <selfimage> since Karmic 9.10
[07:40] <jasper2> ok well that explains why i can't find the configs
[07:40] <jasper2> thank you guys
[07:40] <iflema> jasper2: if ya carefully mess with grub.cfg
[07:41] <bean> Kartagis: /etc/smbpasswd
[07:41] <iflema> jasper2: similar to menu .lst
[07:41] <jasper2> awesome
[07:41] <jasper2> thanks iflema
[07:41] <iflema> hang on theres one more command
[07:41] <Kartagis> thanks bean
[07:42] <iflema> jasper2: sudo update-grub
[07:42] <iflema> jasper2: after you edit
[07:42] <jasper2> kk
[07:43] <iflema> jasper2: dont think thats the official way hay...
[07:44] <sri> difference between 9.04 and 9.10???
[07:44] <crog> .06
[07:44] <acer1> lol crog
[07:44] <selfimage> lol
[07:44] <okan_> acer1 gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and add this last line
[07:45] <acer1> http://www.packtpub.com/article/what-is-new-in-ubuntu-9.10-karmic-koala sri: try this
[07:45] <acer1> ok okan_
[07:45] <ardchoille> okan_ , acer1 you're gonna need gksudo for that
[07:45] <acer1> what is it?
[07:45] <acer1> im on root shell ardchoille
[07:45] <okan_> yes
[07:46] <okan_> sorry
[07:46] <ardchoille> acer1: Oh, ok, sorry about that
[07:46] <okan_> sudo gedit
[07:46] <ardchoille> okan_: no, gksudo
[07:46] <acer1> no worries:)
[07:46] <ardchoille> !gksudo | okan_
[07:46] <sri> ok
[07:46] <okan_> not graphical
[07:46] <ardchoille> okan_: gedit is a graphical app
[07:46] <okan_> in terminal
[07:47] <bazhang> okan_, you need gksudo
[07:47] <okan_> :D
[07:47] <ardchoille> ignore me, I came into the iddle of the convo.. need coffee :P
[07:47] <sri> how to logout shortcut key  CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE in 9.04?
[07:47] <ardchoille> !dontzap | sri
[07:47] <mneptok> sri: alt-sysreq-k
[07:48] <acer1> whats the line okan_?
[07:48] <acer1> :)
[07:48] <okan_> :)
[07:48] <acer1> lol
[07:48] <ardchoille> sri: ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't log you out, it kills xorg and it does it in an unclean manner
[07:48] <okan_> but you should copy old line
[07:48] <okan_> anywhere
[07:48] <okan_> sory
[07:48] <sri> ok thanks
[07:48] <acer1> oldline?
[07:48] <mneptok> acer1: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[07:49] <okan_> ok
[07:49] <acer1> mneptok and?
[07:49] <okan_> try gksu
[07:49] <mneptok> acer1: add the line okan_ told you to add. just don't invoke gedit with sudo.
[07:49] <acer1> did okan_ say anythn??
[07:49] <acer1> sorry
[07:49] <acer1> i missed the line
[07:50] <acer1> what was it?
[07:50] <FloodBot4> acer1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <okan_> acer1 options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig
[07:50] <okan_> last line
[07:50] <acer1> ok..
[07:50] <acer1> :)
[07:50] <okan_> and reboot
[07:50] <okan_> but dont remember
[07:51] <acer1> okan_ so ill remove the zs11 line?
[07:51] <Guest85688> R: if a user logins on my server and run sudo su - with sudo password, he becomes root right? then he should not run reboot or shutdown command
[07:51] <okan_> acer1 cut it and paste somewhere maybe i am wrong
[07:52] <ardchoille> Guest85688: no, because he is not in the proper group
[07:52] <okan_> :)
[07:52] <acer1> okan_ this line : options snd-hda-intel model=z71v position_fix=1
[07:52] <ardchoille> !sudo | Guest85688
[07:52] <ardchoille> Guest85688: read that page ubottu posted
[07:53] <okan_> acer1 yes cut it and paste on your desktop and add this line
[07:53] <okan_> options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig
[07:53] <okan_> and reboot
[07:53] <acer1> ok, i did and am gonna reboot now
[07:53] <acer1> brb
[07:53] <okan_> stop
[07:53] <okan_> :)
[07:53] <selfimage> acer1 good luck
[07:53] <okan_> yes
[07:53] <acer1> lol
[07:56] <selfimage> And all is right with the world once again
[07:56] <WorldGenesis> :D
[07:57] <RasEngaN> greetings to all.. how do i set my resolution to 1024x768?
[07:57] <Gary20> can you switch from xwindow to gui? if yes, then how?
[07:57] <okan_> acer1 have you fixed it?
[07:57] <acer1> no okan_ it still aint workn, the front jack :(
[07:57] <okan_> kdngfkjdfngş
[07:57] <selfimage> Well shazbot
[07:58] <acer1> :-(sorry okan_
[07:58] <okan_> don't apologize i am sorry
[07:58] <okan_> wait
[07:58] <selfimage> acer1: is this on a laptop or a desktop
[07:58] <acer1> ok
[07:58] <acer1> desktop selfimage
[07:59] <Gary20> cli to gui
[07:59] <selfimage> acer1: is the front port connected to your motherboard?
[07:59] <RasEngaN> i'm having a problem on my screen resolution. i cant make it to 1024x768. is there another way to fix this. i'm currently stuck to 800x600..
[07:59] <heoa> where to get 100m rj45 cable? no hurry.
[07:59] <iflema> RasEngaN: have ya seen the menu item System/Preferences/Display?
[07:59] <Fog> i'm running something on port 4444 locally and when i try to connect to it from another computer on my lan it refuses to connec, even though i did 'sudo ufw allow 4444/tcp'. any idea why?
[07:59] <petsounds> RasEngaN, whats your video card?
[07:59] <acer1> yeah, ofcourse, the frontjack works fine with xp and aslo workd fine until jaunty
[07:59] <acer1> selfimage
[08:00] <Darkedge> For some STRANGE Reason, Everytime I turn off, I need to launch the Live CD to avoid a blank screen.
[08:01] <okan_> i found it
[08:01] <selfimage> acer1: did it work in Jaunty?
[08:01] <okan_> something
[08:01] <acer1> yes selfimage
[08:01] <iflema> Darkedge: huh..... hello fello aussie
[08:02] <acer1> okan_?
[08:02] <Surlent777> Um, can someone with a working Karmic installation do a ls -al /usr/bin | grep screen and tell me the permissions for screen itself?
[08:02] <okan_> what make is it your desktop?
[08:03] <acer1> intel 946gzis motherboard okan_
[08:03] <iflema> Darkedge: was that a joke..... its gotta be..... wtf
[08:03] <okan_> ok
[08:03] <Darkedge> iflema: its not, I need to have run the live cd before I can boot
[08:03] <selfimage> Darkedge: did you actually install the OS
[08:04] <okan_> write this again in terminal gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[08:04] <Darkedge> iflema: yes.
[08:04] <acer1> ok okan_ tell me
[08:04] <iflema> you boot through the live cd..... to start ya hdd install?
[08:04] <Darkedge> selfimage: yes.*
[08:04] <itai> ji, i would like to be able to highlight several mp3 files in nautilus- right click play and have the player play them in order. at the moment it just opens multiple instances of the player
[08:04] <okan_> options snd-hda-intel model=ref
[08:05] <okan_> acer1 or
[08:05] <acer1> in addition to the old one or replace it , okan_?
[08:05] <selfimage> Darkedge: sounds like grub got pooched on install
[08:05] <Surlent777> itai: Funny, it does just what you want for me
[08:05] <Darkedge> selfimage: It's installed perfectly, except everytime I restart I need to have run the Ubuntu Live CD to avoid a blank screen
[08:05] <jellow_> Surlent777: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root   root        2538 2009-06-02 09:54 screen
[08:05] <okan_>  acer1 yesoptions snd-hda-intel model=
[08:05] <okan_> 3stack
[08:06] <okan_> or 5stack
[08:06] <itai> Surlent777, what is your default media player?
[08:06] <Surlent777> jellow_: thank you. I seem to have -rwxr-sr-x  1 root   utmp<PHONE_NUMBER>-07-05 22:37 screen
[08:06] <Surlent777> itai: Totem
[08:06] <Darkedge> selfimage: this is really confusing saying this, but, like I have to had run the Live CD one boot before, to be able to boot properly.
[08:06] <Surlent777> jellow_: Do you have any idea what that strange little "s" means?
[08:06] <itai> Surlent777, let me try, i have changed my default player many times...
[08:06] <iflema> grub?
[08:06] <okan_> or dell-3stack                          or dell-bios
[08:07] <Darkedge> iflema: the bootloader.
[08:07] <acer1> so which one? options snd-hda-intel model=ref or options snd-hda-intel model=3stack okan_?
[08:07] <Darkedge> iflema: It loads Ubuntu.
[08:07] <okan_> :)
[08:07] <iflema> Darkedge: have ya medd with it... updagaded lately
[08:07] <iflema> mesed
[08:07] <okan_> first ref and reboot
[08:07] <iflema> mmmm
[08:07] <Darkedge> iflema: I had to upgrade when I installed Ubuntu, but I also went into safe mode and updated that way
[08:07] <okan_> if it doesnt acer1 3stack
[08:08] <acer1> ok, okan_ ill remove options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig ??
[08:08] <okan_> yes yes
[08:08] <acer1> ok
[08:08] <iflema>  Darkedge: updated 9.04?? to 9.10 and then trouble?
[08:08] <jellow_> Surlent777: no sorry but i have utmp permissions for screen.real here all of the output  http://pastebin.com/m45c28f3b
[08:08] <okan_> and reboot each attempt
[08:08] <okan_> acer1
[08:09] <acer1> brb okan_
[08:09] <acer1> ref now
[08:09] <Darkedge> iflema: No, Fresh install of 9.10, I just installed it 2day
[08:09] <okan_> ok fine
[08:09] <basanta> i need to use my mobile as relay to connect to internet through laptop what package do i install
[08:09] <iflema>  Darkedge: and you have been in a few times.... others access denied?
[08:09] <Surlent777> jellow_: curious...I don't seem to *have* a screen.real o_O
[08:09] <itai> Surlent777, ok, totem does it,,,,,i had it set to VLC,,,but can it display the song list somewhere?
[08:10] <Darkedge> iflema: What do you mean "other access denied"?
[08:10] <Darkedge> others*
[08:10] <Surlent777> itai: It should show in the right column...if you have just a square media player then try pressing Ctrl+H to display the rest, otherwise, if it's there, check out the drop-down menu
[08:10] <iflema>  Darkedge: cant get in... blank..... \
[08:11] <legend2440> Darkedge: what video card? open system>admin>hardware drivers   any drivers there you can activate?
[08:11] <itai> Surlent777, excellent , CTRL H,.,,, thanks!
[08:11] <basanta> basanta, through bluetooth
[08:11] <Surlent777> jellow_: Okay, I *definitely* don't have a screen.real
[08:11] <Surlent777> itai: no problem
[08:11] <Darkedge> iflema: I can get in if I have the Ubuntu Live CD the boot before.
[08:11] <iflema> hmmm
[08:11] <Darkedge> legend2440: no, no Drivers to install
[08:12] <jellow_> Surlent777: I not installed anything , pretty much default
[08:12] <Surlent777> jellow_: yeah, I know...I remember seeing it before too. What the expletive have I done?
[08:12] <Darkedge> legend2440: this is honestly really confusing to say, but basicly if I've run the Live CD the boot before, I can boot normaly.
[08:12] <desynch> how to use svn with proxy?
[08:12] <Darkedge> desynch: you could try changing the systems proxy settings.
[08:13] <desynch> ehm
[08:13] <desynch> i have set it already
[08:13] <Darkedge> desynch: ok is a proxy in place?
[08:13] <desynch> do i have to restart my laptop when i install svn?
[08:13] <Flannel> desynch: No
[08:13] <desynch> hmmm ..
[08:13] <desynch> strange
[08:14] <desynch> ehm
[08:14] <desynch> i will set it on the network proxy right?
[08:14] <MrDudle> so uhh I went to force quit an application but the little click on a window to force teh application to quite thing that pops up won't go away
[08:14] <MrDudle> how do i make it go away?
[08:14] <okan_> fixed?
[08:14] <desynch> my apt also is with proxy now
[08:14] <okan_> acer1 ?
[08:14]  * MrDudle doesn't want it burning on his screen
[08:14] <okan_> please positive
[08:15] <jellow_> MrDudle: xkill
[08:15] <MrDudle> jellow_: ?
[08:15] <jussi01> can someone tell me what the *'s mean here? The following packages will be REMOVED:  totem* totem-common* totem-plugins*
[08:15] <acer1> no okan_ but the one thing ive noticed is the sound preferences now shows 2 microphones
[08:15] <Surlent777> It is my suspicion that "aptitude reinstall" does absolutely nothing to fix any problems ever.
[08:15] <acer1> in the input section
[08:15] <okan_> hmm
[08:15] <jellow_> MrDudle: alt - f2 and type xkill , use the icon on the window you want to kill
[08:15] <acer1> the output..no developments :(
[08:15] <MrDudle> jellow_: i did
[08:15] <MrDudle> and it's still there :o
[08:15] <okan_> oof
[08:16] <okan_> well
[08:16] <mneptok> jussi01: totem-plugins totem-plugins-extra
[08:16] <mneptok> jussi01: etc etc
[08:16] <ardchoille> jussi01: I usually see that "*" when I am purging rather than removing
[08:16] <Surlent777> okay I may just have to take that back...I used Synaptic the first time and thought nothing happened, and then I did it with aptitude and screen works =D
[08:16] <MrDudle> jellow_: any other ideas?
[08:16] <acer1> yes okan_?
[08:16] <jellow_> MrDudle: Restart x would be to simple i imagine =/
[08:16] <okan_> i know this way is hard but i have succeed
[08:16] <okan_> try second acer1
[08:16] <desynch> anyone to help me?
[08:17] <acer1> 3 stack?
[08:17] <opticon> what can i install to gain access to terminal remotely
[08:17] <okan_> no
[08:17] <okan_> 3stack
[08:17] <MrDudle> jellow_: I'll probably just restart the comp
[08:17] <mneptok> opticon: openssh-server
[08:17] <jellow_> MrDudle: not sure if it would show up on ps -aux , can't realy help
[08:17] <acer1> ok, i'd replace ref with 3stack okan_
[08:17] <okan_> options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[08:17] <acer1> ok?
[08:17] <iflema> desynch: what that youve been foecred to use a proxy??
[08:17] <okan_> yes
[08:17] <c0l2e> can anyone post the /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default content ??
[08:17] <okan_> options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-ms7195-dig
[08:17] <acer1> ok
[08:17] <c0l2e> I think i mess up mine
[08:18] <opticon> ok can you help me resolve depends
[08:18] <acer1> huh?
[08:18] <acer1> both?
[08:18] <okan_> add last libe
[08:18] <desynch> iflema, because our company uses http proxy
[08:18] <okan_> line
[08:18] <acer1> not the 3stack line?
[08:18] <acer1> or both?
[08:18] <opticon> from terminal apt-get openssh but i think their is switch you can add in and make it resolve depends anyone kno?
[08:18] <acer1> okan_
[08:18] <okan_> yes?
[08:18] <MrDudle> jellow_: idk what the name of the app is
[08:19] <ardchoille> c0l2e: Sure, hold on
[08:19] <iflema> desynch: have not been following... have ya set the gnome global proxy.... dont know what it does.. but its there.
[08:19] <c0l2e> what's the default content of /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default
[08:19] <legend2440> c0l2e: #!/bin/sh
[08:19] <legend2440> exit 0
[08:19] <c0l2e> ah
[08:19] <acer1> ill add both options snd-hda-intel model=3stack & options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo-ms7195-dig ?? okan_
[08:19] <acer1> ?
[08:19] <mneptok> opticon: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:19] <Surlent777> Gentlemen, I have something to say: Aptitude may just be the best freaking program ever invented. I'll have to reboot to confirm this, but it may have fixed a three week old problem. I reinstalled stuff with Synaptic to no effect to try and fix it, but reinstalling with aptitude seems to have fixed it.
[08:19] <okan_> no
[08:19] <okan_> sorry
[08:19] <c0l2e> legend2440:  so It's blank?? just the #!/bin/bash
[08:19] <okan_> only options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[08:20] <legend2440> c0l2e: #!/bin/sh  and exit 0
[08:20] <jellow_> MrDudle: can't help you perhaps if yous tick around someone else might know
[08:20] <acer1> ok, and the old line?
[08:20] <c0l2e> ok thanks
[08:20] <acer1> okan_
[08:20] <acer1> ?
[08:20] <mneptok> Surlent777: sl > aptitude  ;)
[08:20] <ardchoille> c0l2e: http://ardchoille42.pastebin.com/m20c44dcd
[08:20] <MrDudle> jellow_: i'd stay around but i don't want it burning onto mys creen
[08:20] <okan_> remove it
[08:20] <desynch> iflema,  i figure it out already. even if i set my proxy i still have to set the config of svn for proxy
[08:20] <MrDudle> so imma restart
[08:20] <desynch> =)
[08:20] <acer1> ok
[08:20] <Surlent777> mneptok: sl? what is sl?
[08:20] <okan_> good luck
[08:20] <okan_> :9
[08:20] <mneptok> Surlent777: for when you typo "ls"
[08:20] <ardchoille> c0l2e: FYI, I'm on Jaunty
[08:20] <SmokeyD> hey anyone know a screenlet rss reader which actually takes you to the webpage of the article you click on, instead of the overview page of the rss feed?
[08:21] <acer1> yeah, thnx okan_
[08:21] <acer1> brb
[08:21] <mneptok> Surlent777: sl is for "steam locomotive." install it and see.
[08:22] <Surlent777> mneptok:  hahahahahaha that's awesome <3
[08:22] <mneptok> :)
[08:22] <Surlent777> time to reboot and see if my praise for aptitude is deserved
[08:22] <mneptok> Surlent777: you will only ever typo "ls" once again. once will teach you.
[08:22] <desynch> all set and ready
[08:22] <desynch> =)
[08:24] <Darkedge> So anyone got any ideas? -_-
[08:25] <APERSON> Darkedge, you're best off repeating your issue.
[08:25] <legend2440> Darkedge: what video card you have?
[08:25] <firekool> Hi i am trying to get my Dell Vostro 1500 wireless to work it uses the BCM4312 Chipset. I show that it used to work now it does not. I was wondeirng if there was any updated information on the card.
[08:25] <Darkedge> APERSON: "repeating" it?
[08:25] <Darkedge> legend2440: Intel 82845G