[00:06] <nhandler> beaver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks has a section for Ubuntu bot cloaks. It lists the requirements your bot needs to meet.
[00:10] <beaver> The bot performs a useful function in Ubuntu teamchannels or LoCo channels of official LoCoTeams -> it does the same job as the bot ubottu ( here present ) it provides information on the packages in the Ubuntu repositories
[00:12] <beaver> the only problem (if any) that would be the publication of the code
[00:13] <beaver> but I can make it available if you request
[00:14] <nhandler> beaver: I'm not on the IRCC, but based on that, I imagine a followup question would be, if it does the same job as ubottu, why not just use ubottu in the first place? Why the need for a new bot?
[00:14] <hggdh> it would indeed be good to have the code publicly available (except for login ids & passwords). A git repository (github, bitbucket) or Launchpad is good
[00:15] <hggdh> nhandler: it is localised, I remember the -fr channel
[00:15] <beaver> exactly
[00:15] <beaver> he can come here?
[00:15] <nhandler> Ah, ok :)
[00:16] <beaver> tu parles français nhandler ?
[00:16] <nhandler> No, I don't. And there is no need for the bot to join here.
[00:16] <beaver> ok
[00:17] <hggdh> beaver: given we are dealing with software under GPL or equivalent licence, having the source code available is almost a requirement
[00:17] <Fuchs> if translations are needed, I'd speak French
[00:18] <Fuchs> but so far he seems to handle it better than he thinks
[00:18] <hggdh> indeed
[00:19] <beaver> I have no problem to provide the code available
[00:19] <beaver> :)
[00:20] <hggdh> beaver: you meet almost all requirements for the cloak, part for source code.
[00:20] <hggdh> beaver: can you put the code available somewhere we can see? If so, I am +1 on the cloak request
[00:21] <beaver> I have to host or ssh access may be enough ?
[00:21] <beaver> hggdh: ?
[00:22] <beaver> I can create a zip bot
[00:22] <hggdh> beaver: no, just upload it to a server (say, github). You do not need to do it *now*, but I need you to tell me you WILL do it
[00:23] <beaver> ok
[00:23] <hggdh> beaver: ok -- this means you will do it?
[00:25] <beaver> I never hosted anything on github, but I can do more simple, I zip my bot sources hggdh
[00:25] <hggdh> beaver: OK., good enough
[00:26] <hggdh> staff: can we please have a cloak ubuntu/bot/...
[00:26] <hggdh> what was the bot's nick again?
[00:26] <nhandler> hggdh: What is the full cloak you would like?
[00:26] <beaver> thanks for your understanding
[00:26] <hggdh> nhandler: yes, this is what I am trying to find :-)
[00:26] <nhandler> :)
[00:26] <hggdh> beaver: what is the cloak name you are requesting?
[00:27] <Unit193> ubotu|search (account uBOTu\packages)
[00:27] <beaver> hggdh: if possible ubotu-search
[00:28] <hggdh> nhandler: ubuntu/bot/ubotu-search for ubotu\packages
[00:28] <nhandler> hggdh, beaver: The bot is now cloaked
[00:28] <hggdh> nhandler: in your debt sir, as always
[00:28] <beaver> thank you , I prepare the zip
[00:29] <hggdh> beaver: enjoy. I expect you to tell us about the source code soon :-)
[00:29] <nhandler> Glad to be able to help. Don't forget to update the relevant wiki pages :)
[00:29] <hggdh> on it
[00:29] <beaver> it will be ready soon
[00:30] <hggdh> blast it, the wiki is showing me the page as immutable
[00:35] <beaver> thank you for hospitality, the archive soon, and I'm happy to be part of this family which is ubuntu
[00:36] <beaver> (merci pour votre accueil, l'archive zip arrive très bientôt, je suis heureux de faire parti de cette famille qui est Ubuntu, merci pour votre confiance)
[00:37] <Fuchs> aww
[00:38] <Fuchs> beaver: on est heureuse que tu participes, merci a toi et bonne nuit :)
[00:38] <Fuchs> (c'est deux heures et demi je pense, bien temps pour aller au lit.)
[00:39] <beaver> merci à vous, effectivement Fuchs :)
[00:39] <Fuchs> and why you French people have to use the polite form (vous) on the internet is beyond me :p  Anyway, sleep well!
[01:05] <beaver> http://ubukey.fr/freetvm/ubuntu.zip
[01:07] <beaver> thank you Fuchs, for my part I use "vous" habitually
[01:08] <beaver> I quote several people so I use "vous"
[01:08] <Fuchs> yeah, we don't, we follow the Germans and thus use "tu" on the internet. No offense :)  And: You're welcome!
[01:09] <beaver> merci :), thank you
[01:10] <beaver> you have the source available at the URL indicated above
[01:10] <Fuchs> de rien, and good night :) *off*
[08:12] <niko> Unit193: yes his bot helps #ubuntu-fr for some months now
[08:28] <Unit193> \o/


[15:00] <juliank> 0/
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:02] <tdaitx> \o
[15:03] <xnox> o/
[15:04] <rbalint> o/
[15:06] <xnox> tdaitx, start the meeting!
[15:06] <tdaitx> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:06] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May  2 15:06:35 2019 UTC.  The chair is tdaitx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:06] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:06] <tdaitx> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:06] <tdaitx> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[15:06] <tdaitx> vorlon bdmurray infinity rbalint xnox cyphermox tdaitx sil2100 juliank doko waveform mwhudson
[15:07] <bdmurray> modified retracer cronjob to count users of 19.04
[15:07] <bdmurray> created eoan apport test crashes for the Error Tracker
[15:07] <bdmurray> tested update of production Error Tracker
[15:07] <bdmurray> wrote a test for checking to see if livepatch dialog appears in u-r-u
[15:07] <bdmurray> uploaded, tested, released disco SRU of fix for LP: #1824430
[15:07] <bdmurray> wrote code to create cards, lanes in trello from a moinmoin export
[15:07] <bdmurray> transferred w.u.c/NewReleaseCycleProcess to trello
[15:07] <bdmurray> emailed ubuntu-devel about the above
[15:08] <bdmurray> started a conversation re the Supported filed in meta-release
[15:08] <bdmurray> uploaded u-r-u change which enables keeping ESM enabled
[15:08] <bdmurray> created rls-ee reports
[15:08] <bdmurray> done
[15:08] <bdmurray> infinity:
[15:08] <infinity>  * bionic HWE stack reviews and discussions
[15:08] <infinity>  * investigation and discussion of msttfcorefonts versus update-notifier
[15:08] <infinity>  * lots of various process discussions
[15:08] <infinity>  * spent some time inconclusively investigating glibc unicode/translit bug
[15:08] <infinity>  * not-quite-EOLing trusty
[15:08] <infinity> (done)
[15:08] <xnox> rbalint, ?
[15:09] <rbalint> (short week due to national holiday)
[15:09] <rbalint> * updated systemd fix on review for LP: #1803993
[15:09] <rbalint> * verified many srus
[15:09] <rbalint> * prepared new round of unattended-upgrades srus
[15:09] <rbalint> * checking what is missing for running snaps in wsl and preparing a branch for fixing those (wip): https://github.com/rbalint/snapd/tree/wsl-fixes
[15:09] <rbalint> (done)
[15:09] <xnox> vorlon,
[15:09] <vorlon>  * short week; sick last week, vacation this Monday
[15:09] <vorlon>  * babysitting autopkgtests through the KDE tests that were causing I/O contention on the master
[15:09] <vorlon>  * lots of catch-up merges for Foundations
[15:09] <vorlon>  * prep for Lyon roadmap sprint this month
[15:09] <vorlon> (done)
[15:09] <xnox> * Unbreak subiquity images with new implicit boot=casper
[15:09] <xnox> * Switch pcsc-lite to python3
[15:09] <xnox> * Switch sssd to python3
[15:09] <xnox> * Switch etckeeper to python3
[15:09] <xnox> * Switch heartbeat to python3 bug #1735355
[15:09] <xnox> * Set critical on the remaining 3 packages (mailman3 MIR, duplicity, swift)
[15:09] <xnox>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=py2-demotion
[15:09] <xnox> * Unbreak golang-defaults / ubuntu-report migration
[15:10] <xnox> * Working on OpenSSL perl SRU
[15:10] <xnox> * Progressing with subiquity zdev screen LPAR testing
[15:10] <xnox> * IBM Z updates:
[15:10] <xnox>   - bug #1826193
[15:10] <doko> too less on the Py3 list ...
[15:10] <xnox>   - bug #1825216
[15:10] <xnox>   - bug #1825350
[15:10] <xnox>   - bug #1814796
[15:10] <xnox> done
[15:10] <cyphermox> shim review: Endless OS; CloneDeploy
[15:10] <cyphermox> more speccing of netplan features
[15:10] <cyphermox> discussing shim next steps; needs update in Ubuntu prior to shim 16 release (arm64 support)
[15:10] <cyphermox> grub2 SRU: fix gfxpayload issues on UEFI (Hyper-V) for Xenial (bug LP: #1826453)
[15:10] <xnox> doko, that's only things in main
[15:10] <cyphermox> netplan SRU for bug LP: #1825206 (renderer handling)
[15:10] <cyphermox> reworking netplan error / validation code
[15:10] <cyphermox> updated test case for VPN leakage bug in the Bionic NM SRU that never ends (bug LP: #1754671)
[15:10] <cyphermox> debugging Andy's grub menu bug (LP: #1827203)
[15:11] <tdaitx> cyphermox: done?
[15:11] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:11] <tdaitx> * openjdk-8 security update
[15:11] <tdaitx>   - packaged & verified tests on disco
[15:11] <tdaitx>   - uploaded xenial, bionic, cosmic, and disco packages to the security team
[15:11] <tdaitx> * openjdk-7 security update
[15:11] <tdaitx>   - fixing conflicts
[15:11] <tdaitx> * triaged reported failures for openjdk-11 transition (LP: #1825604, LP: #1825037, LP: #1827090, Debian: #925509)
[15:11] <tdaitx> * jck 11: got access, read over the docs, requested jenkins slaves to be nuked and updated to a newer release (currently on trusty)
[15:11] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:11] <tdaitx> sil2100 is out, go juliank! =)
[15:11] <juliank>  * (short week due to May 1 holiday)
[15:11] <juliank>  * uploaded livecd-rootfs for bionic, cosmic, disco, eoan (LP: #1826377)
[15:11] <juliank>  * worked a bit on multiple cloud workers for autopkgtest (https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+merge/366571)
[15:11] <juliank>  * some autopkgtest worker maintenance on saturday
[15:11] <juliank>  * fixed gnutls28 autopkgtest on 32-bit (https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/merge_requests/986)
[15:11] <juliank>  * python-apt SRUs to fix some locking issue (LP: #1826870, debian bug #922416)
[15:11] <juliank>  * sent an email to sourceforge people about their servers misbehaving (also LP: #1713615)
[15:11] <juliank>  * made update-notifier's package-data-downloader delete incomplete files instead of resuming (LP: #1713615)
[15:11] <juliank>  * added support to apt-helper download-file to pass multiple hashes (TODO: COMMIT/MERGE REQUEST)
[15:11] <juliank>  * converted APT code to use 'explicit' constructors (https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/merge_requests/61/diffs)
[15:11] <juliank>  * some APT code refactoring to enable future http2 work
[15:11] <juliank>  * DebConf attendance planning
[15:12] <juliank> (done)
[15:12] <juliank> oh, there's a todo in there
[15:12] <doko> - finished the isl transition
[15:12] <doko> - GCC 9 release candidate 1
[15:12] <doko> - travel and PyCon
[15:12] <doko> - no May 1 yet for me
[15:12] <doko> (done)
[15:12] <juliank> the TODO above is https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/commit/4fa03143eee3776e2fa8fbd59d3cbaea40be0871
[15:12] <waveform> * Refined pi "amazing" spec; all comments should now be resolved
[15:12] <waveform> * Wrote pi image-building instructions
[15:12] <waveform> * Working on consolidating raspi2 and raspi3 build processes (armhf and *possibly* arm64); issues around ubuntu-image building armhf images under arm64
[15:12] <waveform> * Worked on wiringpi package comments (from Lukasz & upstream from Simon, LP: 1824370)
[15:12] <waveform> * Attempted work-around for renaming boot partition for cloud-init (failed due to late mount of boot partition)
[15:12] <waveform> * Popped out to vote (and wrestle pollsters)
[15:12] <waveform> (done)
[15:12] <xnox> juliank, what's the sf thing?
[15:13] <juliank> xnox: see LP: #1713615
[15:13] <xnox> ah
[15:13] <tdaitx> any more questions?
[15:13] <cyphermox> ohh
[15:13] <juliank> their mirrors fail if you have a file of size N and do a partial request for N-; they send you a redirect rather than a 416 with range: byte */N
[15:14] <tdaitx> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:14] <tdaitx> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:14] <xnox> juliank, fun
[15:14] <xnox> tdaitx, hmmm. i guess we should update the url to -ee-  no?
[15:14] <bdmurray> aren't we on ee now?
[15:14] <bdmurray> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[15:14] <tdaitx> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:16] <bdmurray> there's not much new there
[15:16] <bdmurray> or really nothing new
[15:16] <tdaitx> move along?
[15:16] <vorlon> there are 3 high in incoming, what should we do with them?
[15:17] <bdmurray> target the update-notifier one
[15:17] <bdmurray> bug 1821412
[15:18] <vorlon> +1
[15:18] <bdmurray> I guess I should test bug 1825021 again
[15:19] <bdmurray> Given what juliank said
[15:19] <juliank> yup
[15:19] <bdmurray> I'll card it
[15:19] <bdmurray> Or there is a card already
[15:19] <bdmurray> Is that card prioritized?
[15:19] <juliank> bdmurray: I mean, it also means that the modify PATH thing in u-r-u is useless with upgrades from cosmic and later
[15:20] <juliank> You'd have to set the apt DPkg::Path option to actually set a path with those
[15:20] <vorlon> I'll prioritize it
[15:20] <bdmurray> juliank: but it happened on upgrade from cosmic2disco so it did work
[15:21] <juliank> odd
[15:21] <juliank> hmm
[15:21] <juliank> no wait, it's only in disco
[15:21] <juliank> so it's upgrades from disco that will start misbehaving
[15:21] <juliank> maybe
[15:21] <juliank> not sure
[15:21] <juliank> Like I don't know what is in that imported dir
[15:22] <bdmurray> juliank: which dir? imported in u-r-u only contains invoke-rc.d
[15:22] <juliank> yeah that dir I think
[15:23] <juliank> Like if you add something in there in eoan, it won't be used by disco
[15:23] <juliank> that is, disco->eoan upgrades
[15:23] <bdmurray> I hear you
[15:24] <bdmurray> so either way that needs testing and I'll update the card
[15:24] <bdmurray> that leaves bug 1812688 as high
[15:25] <vorlon> yeah we should probably at least revert that and leave it on the pile
[15:25] <vorlon> so +1 from me for taking it
[15:25] <bdmurray> Okay, will target / card
[15:26] <bdmurray> that's it then
[15:27] <tdaitx> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:27] <tdaitx> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:29] <gaughen> rbalint, xnox which of you are going to pick up those systemd related things
[15:30] <vorlon> the systemd autopkgtests continue to have a distressingly high failure rate
[15:30] <xnox> yeah
[15:30] <juliank> whoa that queue is small
[15:30] <infinity> Don't queue shame me.
[15:30] <xnox> we need a merge of v241 or the v242rcX and like investigate what's wrong.
[15:31] <rbalint> i take it
[15:31] <vorlon> xnox: v241? what does that have to do with systemd test flakiness?
[15:31] <gaughen> thank you rbalint
[15:31] <xnox> vorlon, to gather new different flakiness!
[15:31] <vorlon> uh
[15:32] <vorlon> xnox: so the recent history of retries shows different tests failing, etc
[15:32] <xnox> storage -> needs to be properly de-raced
[15:33] <cyphermox> I'm happy to take pyparted
[15:33] <xnox> boot-smoke -> we fail to reboot 10 times in a row
[15:34] <vorlon> xnox: do you also have busybox+glibc/s390x? (which is only not late now because I had a reupload)
[15:34] <xnox> no, not yet
[15:34] <gaughen> rbalint, I carded it
[15:34] <gaughen> cyphermox, I'll creat a card
[15:34] <vorlon> xnox: but you promiiiised
[15:34] <cyphermox> gaughen: thanks
[15:35] <vorlon> xnox: or do you need infinity to look at it?
[15:35] <infinity> I don't own a mainframe.
[15:36] <vorlon> infinity: but you have a jumprope
[15:36] <infinity> I... Wat?
[15:36] <vorlon> infinity: setjmp
[15:36] <infinity> Oh.
[15:36] <doko> must be freezing without a mainframe in the room
[15:36] <rbalint> lintian is failing in Debian, too, it guess it will be fixed there soonish
[15:37] <vorlon> infinity: (busybox changed its setjmp/longjmp usage, and it works in Debian w/ glibc 2.28, same binary fails w/ glibc 2.29)
[15:37] <infinity> Yeah, the lintian issue is clearly upstream.
[15:37] <infinity> vorlon: Did you try with 2.28 in cosmic?
[15:37] <infinity> vorlon: (to rule out gcc build target differences, etc)
[15:37] <vorlon> infinity: yes
[15:37] <infinity> Kay.
[15:38] <infinity> I blame IBM.
[15:38] <gaughen> seems we're done with proposed-migration stuff
[15:38] <tdaitx> #topic AOB
[15:43] <vorlon> looks like no other business :)
[15:43] <tdaitx> #endmeeting
[15:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu May  2 15:43:28 2019 UTC.
[15:43] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-05-02-15.06.moin.txt
[15:43] <tdaitx> thanks!
[15:43] <vorlon> tdaitx: thanks :)
[15:43] <vorlon> and thanks, all!
[15:44] <xnox> infinity, we can blame ibm, indeed. i like that.


[12:59] <Burgundavia> rwabel, please do a search of the wiki before creating a page
[12:59] <Burgundavia> rwabel, OperaBrowser already existed
[01:01] <Burgundavia> any idea what this UbuntuMagazine is?
[01:31] <rwabel> Burgundavia: ok, sorry
[01:32] <Burgundavia> rwabel, np
[01:32] <Burgundavia> I just made your page redir to the old one
[01:35] <rwabel> there are some troubleshooting on mine. I gonna add them in the others page
[01:35] <Burgundavia> ok
[01:35] <rwabel> how can I retrieve my old page?
[01:35] <Burgundavia> look at the diff
[01:35] <Burgundavia> click get info
[01:35] <Burgundavia> then view the diff
[01:36] <rwabel> ok, thanks...mhh I don't like that Nicholas completely removed vegastrike...even if you can get it through hoary bp now
[01:37] <Burgundavia> huh?
[01:39] <rwabel> when I diff I only get tha latest entry of OperaBrowser and not Opera (my old page)
[01:39] <Burgundavia> you need to go back to Opera
[01:39] <Burgundavia> just a sec
[01:40] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Opera?action=recall&rev=2
[01:40] <Burgundavia> there is your old versin
[01:41] <rwabel> thanks
[02:39] <Madpilot> hi all
[02:42] <Madpilot> what's the wiki page that lists recent edits & changes? wiki search hasn't helped
[02:43] <Madpilot> nvr mind, I lie. wiki search did find it, on the third choice of keywords...
[03:12] <judax> greets
[08:45] <robitaille> it seems a new version of IPodder is out (2.1); which means I should probably update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder.  What do you think Aunt Tilley prefers:  instruction on how to install a tar.gz package, or instruction on how to use alien to install a rpm file in Ubuntu?
[08:46] <Burgundavia> hmm
[08:46] <Burgundavia> any debian packages out there?
[08:46] <robitaille> not that I can see.  the rpm thing is very recent.  before it was only the tar file
[08:47] <Burgundavia> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/03/msg02582.html
[08:47] <Burgundavia> itp
[08:47] <Burgundavia> http://applications.linux.com/print.pl?sid=05/03/01/155208
[08:47] <Burgundavia> talks about aliening it
[08:48] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ParagraphStyleSimpleFrontPage
[08:48] <Burgundavia> kill it?
[08:48] <Madpilot> "This page was a testing area for ideas about a different Style of frontpage. It is probably now out of date."
[08:49] <Burgundavia> hmm
[08:49] <Burgundavia> another thought
[08:49] <Burgundavia> should I create a CategoryDevelopment, for the active development stuff>
[08:49] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:49] <robitaille> maybe I will go the alien route for Ipodder.  If it works, it will be simpler than the current instructions on the Wiki.
[08:50] <Madpilot> Is there going to be a CategoryCategory, to categorize all the categories? :p
[08:51] <Burgundavia> should already be one
[08:51] <Madpilot> um, I was kidding... is there really one?
[08:52] <Burgundavia> should be
[08:52] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryCategory  <-- Dog, there really is one...
[08:52] <Madpilot> does this wiki have a "what links here" like the MediaWiki does?
[08:52] <Burgundavia> you want to remove all the pages from categorycategory?
[08:53] <Burgundavia> yes, click on the page title
[08:53] <Burgundavia> totally obtuse
[08:53] <Madpilot> OK, thats' why the page titles are active URLs. I'd wondered.
[08:53] <Madpilot> what's totally obtuse?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> the clicking thing
[08:54] <Burgundavia> there is also no link when editing the page to just view the page
[08:54] <Madpilot> isn't that Preview?
[08:55] <Burgundavia> what if I don't want to edit anymore
[08:55] <Madpilot> then Save? I'm not sure what you're talking about, TBH.
[08:55] <Burgundavia> no
[12:15] <jsgotangco> hi
[12:19] <WaterSevenUb> hi
[03:37] <mgalvin> hi all
[08:53] <Burgundavia> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54303
[09:10] <mgalvin> neat idea
[09:11] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:11] <Burgundavia> the person doing it said he would come in here
[09:11] <Burgundavia> and he did, but I guess nobody was about
[09:12] <mgalvin> hmm, we'll have to have him come back we everyone is around
[09:14] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:14] <mgalvin> i'll comment on the forum and ask him to come back and hang around and talk to everyone
[09:16] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:16] <Burgundavia> you know, if I do nothing but help people find the doc team, that would be good
[09:17] <Burgundavia> in other boring news, I am working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion
[09:23] <mgalvin> we need you to help us write too :)
[09:23] <mgalvin> cool
[09:32] <Burgundavia> bloody hell
[09:32] <Burgundavia> loosing connectins
[09:32] <mgalvin> wireless?
[09:32] <Burgundavia> no
[09:33] <Burgundavia> wired
[09:33] <Burgundavia> very odd, never seen something like this before
[09:33] <Burgundavia> think it might be network-manager
[09:33] <mgalvin> ah
[11:49] <zAo^> lo all
[11:54] <Burgundavia> hello
[11:54] <Burgundavia> zAo^, you the UbuntuMagazine person?
[11:54] <zAo^> nope. What is it anyway? :)
[11:55] <Burgundavia> a magazine for tutorials, promoting ubuntu, etc.
[11:55] <zAo^> no, but I'd like to :)


[10:23] <Stefn> hello, I should edit my udev rules, but I have no clue how to do that. I have 2 commands that should be executed automatically via udev. Can someone help me with this?
[10:23] <Stefn> sudo umount /dev/sr0
[10:23] <Stefn> sudo mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom
[10:32] <alkisg> Stefn: for generic Ubuntu questions, try asking in #ubuntu. Your question is: "I want to automatically mount CDROM drives with umask=0000 instead of umask=0077, how can I configure udisks to do that?"
[10:33] <Stefn> oh ok
[12:55] <igitur> hi. I'm setting up Edubuntu on a PC to donate to someone without internet acces. Can i use the Edubuntu LiveCD itself as a software source?
[16:49] <maco> highvoltage: pull gally.
[16:49] <maco> i thought there was a bug in my setup.py that i could fix with one line.  it's a compiler bug.
[16:50] <highvoltage> maco: hmm?
[16:51] <highvoltage> igitur: unfortunately not, since live media don't contain the actual packages
[16:51] <maco> highvoltage: gally has a crasher bug. i thought it was failing to build a chunk of it due to an api change that i could account for in my setup.py.  the bug is in the compiler
[16:52] <maco> i really don't think i'm going to fix the compiler and convince skaet to allow a new python-kde4 into the archive by monday
[16:52] <highvoltage> maco: ok
[16:52] <maco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-kde4/+bug/695590
[16:53] <highvoltage> stgraber: ^^^ could you remove gally from the seeds? it will probably be faster if you do it since you have all the rights, etc
[17:19] <stgraber> highvoltage: do we mention it anywhere on the website, screenshots, slideshow ?
[17:28] <highvoltage> stgraber: nope
[17:41] <stgraber> maco: seed and meta updated
[17:41] <stgraber> highvoltage: can you add gally on the oneiric todolist ?
[17:43] <maco> there's a patch upstream for pykdeuic4, which i will be testing tonight and will be a 0-day SRU for natty, followed by some package rebuilds
[17:44] <highvoltage> stgraber: ok
[17:46] <stgraber> maco: ok, so people will be able to install gally post-release from software center and we'll probably have it by default in Oneiric then
[17:47] <maco> right
[17:53] <highvoltage> stgraber: so we should have new images to test in the next 24 hours or so right?
[17:53] <stgraber> highvoltage: yep, next daily run should be around 8pm EDT
[17:54] <highvoltage> ok
[19:35] <igitur> highvoltage: thanks


[11:12] <netritious> wrst: I haven't done anything with that website in a loooong time.
[11:13] <netritious> Svpernova09 hosts the site now.
[11:19] <netritious> jshanks24: meetings died because no one cared to schedule them. When they were scheduled no one showed up. On the rare occasion someone did show up, it was rife with politics. I made a pretty big fuss about it but nothing has changed. There is a blog post on the site about it.
[11:20] <wrst> howdy netritious :)
[11:20] <netritious> howdy wrst :) cold out your way?
[11:20] <netritious> jshanks24: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/2012/announcements/leadership-elections/
[11:23] <wrst> not as cold as predicted, its 10
[11:23] <wrst> how about you?
[11:23] <netritious> ew whee that's cold!
[11:23] <netritious> yeah, freezing here
[11:23] <wrst> I think tonight supposed to drop below 0 again
[11:24] <wrst> we had about 3-5" of snow
[11:24] <wrst> or I should say 3-5" of "flurries"
[11:25] <netritious> egad, not as cold here.... 31
[11:25] <netritious> with wind chill later today temps are supposed to drop :/
[11:26] <wrst> but on the loco stuff I hate to say it in here I'm not for sure its hardly worth the effort, I think ubuntu is becoming much less community oriented anyway
[11:26] <netritious> for me it was less about ubuntu and more about community
[11:26] <Unit193> Temp: 7 F (-14 C) ~ light snow ~ Windchill: -9 F (-23 C) ~ Humidity: 84%
[11:26] <Unit193> :D
[11:27] <netritious> wow Unit193, guess I'm living like it's Florida :)
[11:27] <Unit193> wrst: I still maintain the Xubuntu community is good!
[11:27] <Unit193> (And by extension, what little Ubuntustuio community there is)
[11:27] <wrst> Unit193: that's all well and good but Ubuntu proper is garbage as far as their concern for community
[11:28] <netritious> wrst: rarely do I recall anyone talking about ubuntu at a local meetup.
[11:28] <Unit193> wrst: Depends, factions are good, factions are bad.
[11:28] <netritious> *I recall ubuntu only being mentioned in passing, not as the focus of the meetup
[11:28] <wrst> Unit193: I have a CLA you can sign!
[11:28] <Unit193> NTY. :D
[11:29] <wrst> Unit193: that kills community at a much higher level and makes locos useless
[11:29] <wrst> that being said this is a good group of people :)
[11:29] <wrst> netritious: what was the purpose then? :)
[11:30] <netritious> mostly wrst, except that guy Unit193...idk what his deal is
[11:30] <netritious> :D
[11:30] <wrst> ha ha
[11:30] <netritious> wrst: the purpose of the meetups? to commune with each other?
[11:31] <wrst> but really the hoops required just to become Ubuntu blessed loco were nuts especially for a group like this with so much geogrophy to cover
[11:31] <wrst> they were obviously thinking of urban areas and not of locations like ours
[11:31] <wrst> netritious: so you communed but just not about ubuntu :)
[12:51] <Svpernova09> There is a login for the host if someone needs access :D
[12:51] <Svpernova09> I log in and make sure it's updated when i do the rounds with the rest of my WP sites
[13:09] <netritious> wrst: well yes and no...ubuntu was talked about, but wasn't really the focus of discussion, at least not what I can recall.
[13:10] <netritious> hey Svpernova09
[15:56] <netritious> anyone use pfsense?
[15:56] <netritious> besides me
[17:31] <wrst> netritious: I have thought about using pfsense :)
[17:31] <wrst> so that doesn't really qualify ;)
[20:23] <jshanks24> What are the benefits of being an "Ubuntu Community" official or not vs setting up an independent community that follows its own rules?
[20:23] <jshanks24> Just thinking outside the box here
[21:46] <Juzzy> b/c ubuntu has clout
[21:46] <Juzzy> and random other community does not
[23:11] <wrst> jshanks24: in reality we dont get presed cds or a banner thing for tech show type things
[23:11] <Unit193> Stash.
[23:12] <wrst> i think in community terms ubuntu is getting less relavent as far as true community goes, but it is no doubt the big dog still
[23:12] <wrst> Unit193: exactly
[23:14] <wrst> and i am admittedly a little not on team ubuntu exactly like i was at one time
[23:14] <Unit193> ^ is just cranky.
[23:14] <wrst> i do hope they do well but...
[23:14] <wrst> Unit193: yes
[23:15] <wrst> i think i may grow a neckbeard and start moaning on mailing list about mundane things no one cares about :)
[23:15] <netritious> ha
[23:16] <netritious> i thought everyone did that wrst
[23:17] <Unit193> No, I'm hip and new, I output to IRC (just not here, dangit, ubuntulog_.)
[23:18] <wrst> ha ha netritious