[12:49]  * danilos -> food
[13:32] <danilos> gary_poster, stand up and dance time? :)
[13:32] <gary_poster> danilos, meh, soory, thanks, yes
[13:33] <gary_poster> bac, benji, danilos, gmb, mumble/kanban in 2
[13:33] <gary_poster> I mean 1
[13:33] <gary_poster> I mean ASAP :-)
[13:33] <gmb> Yep
[13:42] <danilos> https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/EmailNumberEstimation
[13:57] <gmb> danilos: ~yellow/launchpad/bug-subscription-page-mockups/
[14:23] <danilos> gary_poster, gmb: actually, I have one question about the X-Launchpad-Subscription-Description header
[14:24] <danilos> gary_poster, gmb: what should happen if notifications that are part of one email are coming from multiple subscriptions?
[14:24] <gary_poster> I say include them all
[14:24] <danilos> gary_poster, ok
[14:24] <gary_poster> gmb, I have 14:30-15:30 available for our call, and I doubt we'll need all of that.  If you want to just ping me after you have finished your email to Matthew, that's fine with me
[14:26] <danilos> gary_poster, gmb: generally, this will probably require adding an actual filter link on bugnotification table as well, unless I am mistaken and we can encode that information in a different way
[14:27] <benji> gary_poster and bac: lp:~benji/+junk/subscription-widget-mockups-triangles has modified versions of gary-alt with disclosure triangles in the only sane place I could think to put them, but I'm not reall happy with the result
[14:27]  * bac fetches and looks
[14:28] <gary_poster> danilos, I was just thinking that. :-/ if you don't think that you can fit it in now, feel free to reconsider your selection
[14:28]  * gary_poster fetches and looks too
[14:31] <danilos> gary_poster, I believe I can still fit it in, it's just that I feel like we are hastily adding more and more stuff to bugnotification table, losing the "archiving" property of BugNotificationArchive, and just generally feel unsure about just jumping in
[14:32] <danilos> ugh, adobe air is not compiled for 64-bit linux :(
[14:35] <gary_poster> danilos, ok.  1) feel free to take some time to not feel like we are being hasty.  Collect your concerns and talk to Graham about them, or if your concerns are more vague, just have a more formal pre-imp with him.  2) As far as the archiving property of BugNotificationArchive is concerned, I guess I don't understand the utility of the table.  I thought we just garbage collected old notifications after a month.
[14:35] <gary_poster>  If not, why not?
[14:35] <gary_poster> benji, I have some ideas.  Will tweak and propose
[14:35] <benji> cool
[14:35] <danilos> gary_poster, I don't understand it either, which kind of points to my "hastily" observation :) but I'll take a look at all that
[14:35] <bac> benji: what action would cause the twisty to twist?  merely selecting the checkbox or actually clicking on the twisty?
[14:36] <gary_poster> danilos ack :-)
[14:36] <benji> I figured reacting to both would be good.
[14:37] <bac> personally i think the twisties are unnecessary, especially since there is no good place to put them
[14:45] <gary_poster> benji, any idea why I can't access the twisty on 1-add open?  I keep clicking to no avail, and I'm able to move the others
[14:45] <gary_poster> ("are added or changed in any way")
[14:46] <benji> gary_poster: heh, no no idea; maybe I accidentally created an antibiotic resistant twisty
[14:46] <gary_poster> ah-ha, got the sneaky thing
[14:53] <gary_poster> beji, bac, I merged benji's work and tweaked it, and pushed it to lp:~yellow/launchpad/subscription-widget-mockups/
[14:54] <gary_poster> The thing we are trying to do is replace the ellipses as I understand it
[14:54] <gary_poster> and make it obvious that there are more options
[14:54] <gary_poster> I moved the triangle to the left, next to the control (radio button/checkbox), to try to make the unification clear
[14:55] <gmb> gary_poster: Argh, sorry, completely missed your pings earlier somehow. Let me catch up on scrollback...
[14:55] <gary_poster> np gmb
[14:56] <gary_poster> Anyway, I think this is an improvement to the ellipses.  It still is a tad unorthodox since the form controls are kind of combined with the twisties, but it is clearer, at least to my eye
[14:58] <gary_poster> I dunno maybe I'm fooling myself. :-/
[14:59] <gary_poster> it certainly is more "present" than the ellipses
[15:05] <gary_poster> danilos, I just read https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/EmailNumberEstimation .  Thank you.  I have a few questions.
[15:05] <benji> gary_poster: I considered the configuration you mocked up and it looks as bad as I figured it would :P  I'm not certain about my preference, but I think the ellipsis is an important clue, and the radio button next to the disclosure triangle seems jarring to me; maybe Huw would have some better ideas
[15:05] <danilos> gary_poster, sure thing
[15:05] <gary_poster> benji. ok. :-/  I prefer this over what you had.
[15:06] <danilos> gary_poster, IRC or mumble?
[15:06] <gary_poster> benji, bac, how's this then:
[15:06] <benji> eye of the beholder, I guess :)
[15:06] <gary_poster> 1) one of you throw this at Huw and see what sticks
[15:07] <gary_poster> 2) meanwhile, we implement gary-alt as it was originally, without twisties.
[15:07] <gary_poster> alright?
[15:07] <gary_poster> danilos, was going to do IRC, but mumble is faster, so yeah, let's do that
[15:08] <bac> gary_poster: that sounds like a reasonable path
[15:08] <gary_poster> cool
[15:09] <benji> +1
[15:09] <gary_poster> great.  who talks to Huw? :-)
[15:09] <gmb> gary_poster: So, email away; I'm free whenever you are.
[15:09] <gary_poster> ok five minutes gmb thanks
[15:10] <gmb> Sure
[15:10] <benji> bac: do you want to email Huw, or shall I?
[15:10]  * benji wonders if he was born with that spelling or changed it for better googlability
[15:10] <bac> benji: why don't we tag team him?  i have to email him today about skinning the accordion.
[15:10] <benji> ok
[15:18] <gmb> benji: Huw's a Welsh spelling, so I guess his name might be an inherited one. At least he's not called Ruaridh.
[15:19] <benji> :)
[15:20] <benji> Ruaridh is certainly more likely to give good google results.
[15:21] <gmb> True.
[15:33] <gary_poster> danilos, ready on mumble when you are
[15:33] <danilos> gary_poster, I just need 3 minutes, be right there :)
[15:33] <gary_poster> cool danilos
[15:47] <danilos> gary_poster, https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/AnswerContact/
[16:02] <bac> gary_poster: has a date been set for the next Launchpad Throwdown?
[16:03] <gary_poster> bac, yeah, one sec lemme get it...
[16:04] <bac> gary_poster: did you see this topic for trizpug next week?  http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/presentations/101/
[16:06] <gary_poster> bac, I didn't.  Cool, I'll see if I can be there.  Dates are June 27-July 1, last I've heard
[16:15] <benji> bac: I initally started adding the current user's team info to a branch from devel, but it occurs to me that starting from one of your branches would be better; which one should I use?
[16:16] <bac> benji: let me update my latest work from devel (should pick up the new widget) and push it up.  give me a sec.
[16:16] <benji> sure
[16:19] <bac> benji: have a look at lp:~bac/launchpad/accordionoverlay
[16:19] <benji> thanks
[16:20] <bac> benji: latest layout tweaks: http://people.canonical.com/~bac/overlay-2.png
[16:20] <benji> cool, looks good
[16:21] <benji> the spacing between the widgets might be a bit tight, but I suspect you're not working on look and feel yet
[16:34] <bac> benji: yeah, i'm just trying to get something on the page in roughly the right place
[16:34] <benji> I endorse your approach.
[16:34] <bac> \0/
[16:35] <benji> I also endorse lunch.
[17:13] <danilos> gary_poster, heya, one question re adding a link to bugsubscriptionfilter: a structural subscription always implies a bugsubscriptionfilter, right? or can we have just a structural subscription without having a bugsubscriptionfilter?
[17:15] <gary_poster> danilos, it is possible now to have a structural subscription without a bugfilter.  That's probably a bad idea long term for the UI Brad and Benji are working on, so if it is also a bad idea for your work, that's just more ammunition for a change. :-)
[17:15] <gary_poster> IOW, if you need that assumption, I think it is OK, and I think you can run with it now and have everyone on the squad check agree with it before you start work tomorrow
[17:16] <danilos> gary_poster, right, I'll look into how easy/hard is it to enforce that (or I'd have to add *both* a structural sub and bug sub filter references to BugNotification)
[17:16] <gary_poster> danilos, cool.
[18:09] <gary_poster> danilos, I put you in Feature Work 3 since I was gone from there.  Not sure if you want task cards or what, so you might want to add those (or at least one)
[18:09] <danilos> gary_poster, right, I'll likely need them, thanks
[18:09]  * gary_poster lunching, should be back in 1:20 or less
[19:13] <benji> bac: does this look like it'll fit the bill for the teams-the-current-user-administers data you need? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568392/
[19:14] <bac> benji: looks good
[19:14] <benji> cool
[19:23] <benji> bac: the branch is at lp:~benji/launchpad/accordionoverlay; I'm adding a couple tests to it now
[19:23] <bac> ok
[19:30] <gary_poster> bac, ready when you are, no rush
[19:31] <bac> gary_poster: ok
[20:55] <gary_poster> bac, good email to Huw.  Thank you.  I wondered when reading it if we should include a link to the Balsamiq mockup images so he gets an idea of the desired usage, but maybe that's not necessary.  If you've considered it and rejected it as unnecessary confusion, that's fine with me.
[20:56] <bac> gary_poster: i was on the fence and fell off on the side of not sending it.
[20:56] <gary_poster> cool bac
[21:40] <gary_poster> lp:~yellow/launchpad/bug-subscription-page-mockups/


[07:52] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Groovy Beta] has been updated (20200930)
[10:04] <Mamarok> about 20.10 beta: kernel -20 is even slower to load Plasma and USB mouse, the Panel takes additional 10 seconds to show up, and my mousse is equally unresponsive for that time. Also Bluetooth adapter is not recognized anymore in both -19 and -20 (which sucks big time if you use a bluetooth keyboard...
[10:04] <Mamarok> mouse*
[10:05] <Mamarok> alos: why does the WiFi has to be disabled on startup? this also slows donwn the experience a lot
[10:05] <Mamarok> have* to
[10:49] <RikMills> no idea why wifi might be off
[10:50] <RikMills> santa_: does that merge build in launchpad? launchpad buildd do not support built profiles like nodoc AFAIK
[10:51] <RikMills> *build profiles
[10:52] <santa_> RikMills: I think it would build it simply as !nodoc, but I haven't tested yet
[10:53] <santa_> what I tested is rebuilding all the frameworks/plasma/apps packages against an extra-cmake-modules
[10:53] <santa_> (in my server)
[11:30] <santa_> * against an extra-cmake-modules with the patch
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <Mamarok> oh for... why does it not find my bluetooth adapter?
[13:35] <Mamarok> it works with Windows, so not a hardware issue, I now have 3 kernels that don't work
 @Mamarok, As another datapoint, bluetooth works here. However when re-connecting a Razer Atheris BT mouse after reboot, the device gets stuck in a constant connect/disconnect loop.  https://github.com/openrazer/openrazer/issues/1170
[14:21] <Mamarok> the Mouse issue was solved on the second log-in, I have a Logitech MX Master, maybe the USB bluetooth dongle was not immediately recognized. But I can't use the built in Bluetooth adapter, it's not seen, I bet it is a kernel issue
 I just fixed my mouse issue by following this thread: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1065335/bluetooth-mouse-constantly-disconnects-and-reconnects
 The fix: Set UserspaceHID=true in /etc/bluetooth/input.conf
[14:26] <Mamarok> let me try that
[14:59] <RikMills> santa_: well, if you can try in launchpad ppa to see what happens that would be great
[17:12] <santa_> RikMills: sure will do that as soon as I can


[00:41] <bobo123> is it possible to have all commands that a script runs be listed?
[00:45] <bobo123> I want to see what command it is running so if the script is     blah=hello;echo $blah    it should print to screen       blah=hello       echo hello      hello
[01:46] <hakimsheriff> If anyone needs help I am here for now
[02:27] <nlsthzn> hakimsheriff: I have needed help the whole night...
[02:28] <ibuclaw> nlsthzn, that's strange, you've only said one word. :~)
[02:28] <nlsthzn> ibuclaw: I needed help staying awake ;)
[02:29] <ibuclaw> some good coffee helps
[02:30] <ibuclaw> and usually a random 8 minute project to keep your senses preoccupied
[02:30] <nlsthzn> this nightshift has been too long (used to down the stuff by the litre... but been coffee free since Sept
[02:31] <ibuclaw> learn how to make microwave cake.
[02:31] <ibuclaw> http://www.dizzy-dee.com/recipe/chocolate-cake-in-5-minutes
[02:32] <nlsthzn> lol
[02:32] <nlsthzn> nothing can completely make up for lack of sleep
[02:33] <tenach> I know, and it sucks.
[02:37] <nlsthzn> but, my night is just about up... next shift is incoming... then home, food and sleeeeeeeeeeep
[02:54] <hakimsheriff> srry been busy. wat is ur prob?
[02:55] <hakimsheriff> have to go bye
[03:01] <dented> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, add to that, it's been about 10 years since I spent any time on irc. My question: Does Ubuntu come with its own firewall-type protection at install, or should I be adding something asap? (I'm going to be running a Smoothwall later in the week, should I get off Ubuntu until that happens?)
[03:02] <aveilleux> dented: Linux is pretty secure from backdoor exploits, but it still comes with a firewall system called iptables. Software to configure it is available in the repos; firestarter is one.
[03:03] <Cheri703> dented: I don't know about SHOULD you add something asap, but...I generally run my ubuntu computers bare...haven't needed to set up anything further
[03:03] <aveilleux> dented: There's a debate whether or not you really need a firewall (same ideas as antivirus)... I run without one on my desktop system.
[03:04] <dented> Thank you. So far, I feel like I'm in a McDonalds commercial (I'm lovin' it)
[03:04] <bobo123> a NAT-router is always nice to have for all computers :-)
[03:04] <aveilleux> dented: The only extra security layer I put onto Ubuntu is the installation of the current beta of NOD32 antivirus, so I can check my Windows drives if I suspect they're compromised.
[03:05] <bobo123> how good is clam antivirus btw?
[03:05] <aveilleux> bobo123: Not... very good.
[03:05] <bobo123> Hmm...  On-demand scanning works, but it somewhat difficult to configure
[03:06] <bobo123> aha.
[03:06] <bobo123> yeah I only want on demand scanning. I don't like stuff running in the background.
[03:06] <aveilleux> bobo123: Unfortunately, it depends on signatures (its heuristics detection system is laughable at best) and the signatures are very far out of date.
[03:06] <bobo123> oh
[03:07] <tenach> I hate it when AV scans memory/applications as they open. It slows everything down.
[03:07] <aveilleux> bobo123: Yeah. Since it has no funding, it has no real way of doing the massive amount of testing that Symantec or Kapersky or etc. have to do.
[03:07] <aveilleux> tenach: I've never noticed any performance hit running NOD32.
[03:07] <bobo123> someone should make a program that converts comercial antivirus databases so they work with clam :-)
[03:07] <aveilleux> bobo123: That would be patent violation.
[03:07] <tenach> aveilleux, NOD32 is not in my experience inside Linux.
[03:08] <aveilleux> tenach: The beta's open, give it a shot. http://beta.eset.com/
[03:08] <bobo123> well, not patent but copyright. (and software patents are not legal here)
[03:08] <aveilleux> tenach: It might be ending soon though, I'm not sure.
[03:08] <tenach> Ah.
[03:09] <dented> I haven't worried much about attacks before running XP, but since I finally, after years of waiting, have high-speed available in my town (you wouldn't believe how far in the bush I am), I haven't felt at much risk as 4.5k/s dial-up. Thanks again for the guidance, folks, I'll likely be back.
[03:10] <aveilleux> Actually dial-up is much more vulnerable than digital Internet service...
[03:10] <bobo123> I wonder how I survived with a 33kbit/s modem
[03:14] <bobo123> about viruses... is it possible to instruct wine that windowsprogram are not allowed to write outside its directory?
[03:15] <dented> Really? The brother user to go looking for boxes to sneak into and set up servers... He (and according to him, most of his "crew" just ignored anything they couldn't move files on or off under 60k/s
[03:16] <dented> *"brother used to"
[03:17] <dented> What makes dial-up more vulnerable?
[03:18] <aveilleux> dented: The fact that you can just dial into any network, and capture any network traffic. It's not encrypted, or anything. A dialer program can essentially gain access to any machine that accepts the handshake.
[03:19] <aveilleux> dented: Dial-up was what made being a cracker a few years back very, VERY easy to execute. Not that uh... *cough* I would know anything about that.
[03:19] <dented> Ah. I always just left mine on and connected to my isp... auto-dialed itself if the connection ever dropped
[03:20] <dented> and yes... it always dialed where it was supposed to, for ten years
[03:20] <aveilleux> bobo123: Not that I'm aware of, but most programs are hardcoded to latch onto certain locations, and WINE's C:\ is in ~/.wine/dosdevices/drive_c so it doesn't matter anyway.
[03:21] <aveilleux> bobo123: WINE only executes in standard usermode, and invoking WINE in sudo just screws a lot of things up. So unless you map your C:\ drive to / and give your user root access to everything, you're safe from viruses running inside WINE.
[03:21] <dented> aveilleux:or are you talking about going the other way?
[03:22] <aveilleux> dented: Inbound, yes. Not spoofing numbers. Dialing into other peoples' modems and messing around in there.
[03:22] <aveilleux> dented: All you had to do was find out that person's phone number and take a few minutes to fetch the password sequence (they don't exactly use public-key authentication).
[03:23] <dented> aveilleux:Yeah, mine was always set up to not answer incoming calls.
[03:23] <aveilleux> dented: Unfortunately that is not usually the case, and up until recently it wasn't even the default.
[03:24] <aveilleux> dented: It was usually set up to allow incoming calls so the ISP could fix problems with the modem remotely... a great idea in concept, a rotten one in practice.
[03:24] <dented> We used to love people who had fax-modems set up recieve faxes... or we "would" have if we were doing that kind of thing
[03:25] <aveilleux> dented: Black faxing is still a fairly common practice.
[03:29] <dented> have a good nigh/day folks, depending where you are.
[03:33] <bobo123> ok
[03:35] <bobo123> I suppose that if I want to run a windowsprogram that might be evil I could run it as another user than my normal to be safe.
[07:14] <dentedfxp> And he's back, with a quick question about "Firestarter": from 21:40:00hours to 01:01:38 hours (now-ish) Firestarter has blocked 59 "Serious" events in the log. Does that seem normal? Most of them are Telnet but there's a couple ftp, ssh, and a pile of "Unknown" events listed in the log. Is this pretty much normal? I've got 20 "Unknowns" from one IP in the space of a minute. Should I just be thankful that this thing is working and
[07:14] <dentedfxp>  go to bed?
[07:16] <head_victim> dentedfxp: not sure sorry, I've not used firestarter before
[07:18] <dentedfxp> Heh, just found the unknowns, I tossed an http:// at the IP and got back the following: "If you see portscans/abuse from <IP_ADDRESS> Please read http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies"
[07:19] <dentedfxp> It's just Freenode. Goodnight.
[07:19] <head_victim> A quick google suggests it's fairly normal
[07:19] <head_victim> dentedfxp: ah good stuff. Glad it's sorted for you.l
[07:20] <dentedfxp> thanks.
[09:46] <sumitkv2> i installed ubuntu 9.10 alongside windows.....but m stuck with sh:grub>...
[09:49] <bioterror> why did you install 9.10 when you could install 10.10
[09:50] <sumitkv2> well i had 9.10 cd...didnt had time t download 10.10
[09:51] <sumitkv2> can u tell me whats wrong..?why wont it boot?
[09:51] <bioterror> sh:grub> doesnt tell much
[09:52] <bioterror> http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#GrubShell
[09:52] <sumitkv2> well ......when i boot into ubuntu ....it just dispalys a prompt with sh:grub>
[09:52] <sumitkv2> nothing else
[09:54] <sumitkv2> i tried this......but it says.....out of disk
[09:54] <sumitkv2> !
[10:17] <trhisdone> hello
[10:22] <bioterror> hallo
[10:23] <trhisdone> hey
[10:26] <UndiFineD> hoi
[10:28] <trhisdone> any good reason to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10?
[10:28] <bioterror> not really
[10:29] <trhisdone> i did't think so
[10:34] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[10:39] <Puck`> hi there Fox of the colour Silver
[10:39] <Puck`> :P
[10:40] <Silver_Fox_> Hello Puck` .
[10:40] <Silver_Fox_> How are you?
[10:42] <Puck`> better than yesterday (:
[10:42] <Puck`> did you do any progress on that project?
[10:43] <Silver_Fox_> That is good Puck` .
[10:43] <Silver_Fox_> The project is not likely to have any progress until Saturday evening :(
[10:45] <coolbhavi> trhisdone, only thing I found was nice fonts in ubuntu maverick didnt see much difference
[10:52] <trhisdone> i havn't found a good font for ubuntu yet....they all look blurry
[11:07] <UndiFineD> trhisdone, ubuntu font looks really nice, and blurry fonts may be improves by System > Preferences > Appearance > tab Fonts > Rendering
[11:08] <trhisdone> ive tried every setting with just about every font and have not found one that wins me over..... im using droid sans now its about the best looking to me
[11:09] <trhisdone> but i still think the fonts look better in windows
[11:29] <kevin__> When I install via synaptic in lucid lynx such as AVG I don't get an icon on the desktop or in the applications menu is there something I need to do to get these?
[11:30] <kevin__> Sorry wrong question.  Please forget this one
[12:14] <shahadat> Hello all...
[12:15] <shahadat> nice to meet all the guys agin after a long time
[12:17] <trhisdone> hello
[12:17] <shahadat> trhisdone, hy
[12:17] <shahadat> :)
[12:17] <trhisdone> hows it going
[12:18] <shahadat> good
[12:18] <shahadat> its SHAHAN
[12:18] <shahadat> #freenode
[12:20] <UndiFineD> hello shahan
[12:21] <trhisdone> brb need coffee
[14:11] <serfus> someone is asking how can he make his computer to use only a web browser and that settings etc. won't be changeable
[14:11] <serfus> he want's to put it in his cafe
[14:12] <serfus> what would be the best way to do so?
[14:26] <UndiFineD> serfus, store temp files in /tmp and make a readonly user directory
[14:29] <UndiFineD> you can cut a little slack on the user directory by cleaning stuff for example from Downloads in .profile
[14:29] <serfus> found something called Sabayon. looks like it could be right for him but i'm not sure how hard it is to handle as he is not a computer guy
[14:29] <ttrubuntu> hi
[14:30] <ttrubuntu> i have dualbooting system( ubuntu + xp). my doubt is if i install only ubuntu can i run windows based applications?
[14:31] <UndiFineD> try some wine ttrubuntu
[14:31] <serfus> ttrubuntu, you can use wine or one of wine frontends, or you can install xp on a virtual machine
[14:32] <ttrubuntu> yes heard about wine. but will it work without windows installation at all?
[14:33] <ttrubuntu> serfus: i don't like windows anymore. but some commercial s/w only available in windows
[14:33] <serfus> ttrubuntu, what i would recommend for you to do it to check with http://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:34] <ttrubuntu> serfus: i will refer the website
[14:35] <serfus> just enter the game/app/software you need and in the results you can see if it works, about troubles if there is and a grade
[14:36] <ttrubuntu> i will be happy if commercial s/w designed for windows runs in ubuntu without windows installation
[14:44] <serfus> is there an option to make only the web browser accessible?
[14:46] <UndiFineD> ttrubuntu, which apps do you need to run ?
[14:47] <ttrubuntu> UndiFineD: matlab, multisim, modelsim ---- electronic packages
[14:48] <ttrubuntu> if i run them almost i'll say goodbye to windows
[14:48] <UndiFineD> matlab is available for linux i think
[14:49] <ttrubuntu> i think so, but our institute bought windows version
[14:49] <UndiFineD> http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/requirements.html
[14:49] <ttrubuntu> thanks for the link. yes
[14:50] <UndiFineD> with a login: https://www.mathworks.com/accesslogin/login.do?uri=http://www.mathworks.com/downloads/web_downloads/agent_check%3Fmode%3Dgwylf
[14:50] <UndiFineD> for full version download
[14:51] <ttrubuntu> thanks UndiFineD. will check that too
[14:52] <UndiFineD> and the simulation apps ... are addons for it ?
[14:53] <ttrubuntu> no. they are separate products themselves. modelsim is by M/S Mentor Graphics
[14:53] <UndiFineD> http://forums.ni.com/t5/Circuit-Design-Suite-Multisim/Linux-install-of-NI-Multisim-10-1-using-Wine/m-p/787362?requireLogin=False
[14:54] <UndiFineD> http://model.com/content/modelsim-downloads
[14:54] <ttrubuntu> whoa... thanks. so suitable link
[14:56] <UndiFineD> just looking around with the right keywords :) linux and the app
[14:57] <ttrubuntu> thank you. but they are also talking about virtual machine
[15:00] <UndiFineD> wine is some form of VM too
[15:01] <UndiFineD> or you could use kvm / virtualbox / vmware / other
[15:01] <ttrubuntu> oh ok.
[15:05] <ttrubuntu> i am reading the WINE wiki. looks like getting answers to my q. see u with more doubts
[15:06] <UndiFineD> ?
[15:07] <UndiFineD> ah yes, the forum says so too, more success with a proper vm
[15:09] <UndiFineD> but matlab must be able to run natively, although, that may not be very handy, when you need to exchange data / information
[15:23] <ttrubuntu> UndiFineD: is it. catch u later. bye for now
[15:47] <trhisdone> hello
[15:47] <UndiFineD> some coffee break ;)
[15:49] <trhisdone> lol
[15:49] <trhisdone> im doing 15 things at once
[15:50] <trhisdone> im starting to like this ubuntu but i dont think it will replace my win xp anytime soon
[15:54] <trhisdone> my daughter likes it but she is only 8....just happy to have a computer
[15:56] <aveilleux> trhisdone: I'm not eight and I'm happy with Ubuntu ;-)
[15:56] <aveilleux> trhisdone: It's a lot to learn, but it's worth it
[15:58] <trhisdone> well i didn't mean it like that
[15:58] <aveilleux> trhisdone: I know, I know, hehe
[15:58] <trhisdone> lol...there is just some things i do that i havn't found a solution for in ubuntu yet
[15:58] <trhisdone> there might be one out there somewhere
[15:58] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Well that's what we're here for! Toss a list my way sometime.
[15:59] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Migrating from Windows to Ubuntu is one of my specialities.
[15:59] <trhisdone> i havn't been able to find anything to compare with nero yet
[15:59] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Ubuntu comes with Brasero built-in.
[16:00] <trhisdone> yeah but its not as feature rich as nero
[16:00] <aveilleux> trhisdone: What features are you missing?
[16:01] <trhisdone> multiple burner support, automatically turning mp3's into "audio cds"  those are the 2 big ones
[16:03] <trhisdone> also i have an access database of my cds and dvds .....not sure what i would do about that
[16:03] <aveilleux> trhisdone: You can burn audio CDs from Brasero, just select "Audio CD". If not that, then you can use Rhythmbox. Linux programs are usually more specialized than Windows programs (opting for multiple programs that do one job well, as opposed to one program that does everything with mediocrity)
[16:03] <hobgoblin> try k3b instead then - or even nero for linux
[16:04] <trhisdone> i already got nero 6 which i think is the best burning program ever made ...nero7 and up is bloatware
[16:04] <UndiFineD> trhisdone, missing features ? we have dd
[16:04] <trhisdone> ?
[16:05] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Nero Linux 4 is designed much in the same vein as Nero 6
[16:05] <trhisdone> well i don't want to buy something if i already got something
[16:05] <trhisdone> not sure nero would be free
[16:05] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Also, by "multiple burner support" I assume you mean more than one hardware burner drive, yes? I believe you can open more than one instance of Brasero and use more than one drive that way.
[16:05] <UndiFineD> $ dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/cdrom bs=512
[16:06] <aveilleux> UndiFineD: That's a bit advanced for trhisdone right now.
[16:06] <hobgoblin> UndiFineD: that hardly adds anything to the conversation
[16:06] <UndiFineD> ;) but it works
[16:06] <hobgoblin> trhisdone: as I said - have a look at k3b
[16:06] <trhisdone> i been using k3b
[16:07] <aveilleux> trhisdone: k3b is also very powerful, +1 hobgoblin if Brasero is not up to your liking
[16:07] <trhisdone> it can do multiple instances but it doesn't have a choice to burn to multiple burners
[16:07] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Also, back to audio CDs... the first option when opening Brasero is to create a traditional audio CD
[16:07] <trhisdone> hey undifine what does that command do?
[16:08] <UndiFineD> it copies raw
[16:08] <aveilleux> trhisdone: dd is a block-level copying program. You can take one input file (if=*) and copy it to multiple outputs (of=*)
[16:08] <trhisdone> ok thats a bit advanced...lol
[16:08] <hobgoblin> at the end of the day there are always reasons to not move completely - nothing will be exactly the same as windows - mostly cos it's not  - that is the choice :)
[16:08] <aveilleux> trhisdone: You can try Nero 6 under WINE, but I don't know how well it would work
[16:09] <trhisdone> i tried that...no go
[16:09] <UndiFineD> cdburnerXP is how nero used to be
[16:12] <aveilleux> UndiFineD: The only problem with using dd is that it doesn't handle files... it handles images, and copies the raw data stream to the output, which doesn't work for burning data files, since the ISO-1996 filesystem is not recreated.
[16:12] <UndiFineD> but he wanted to do disc to disc
[16:12] <UndiFineD> which would work with dd i think
[16:13] <aveilleux> UndiFineD: I don't think that's what trhisdone meant.
 multiple burner support
 ...it doesn't have a choice to burn to multiple burners
[16:28] <trhisdone> no i was looking to burn 3 copies at the same time.... i usually burn a copy for my 2 cars and 1 for the radio by the pool.......its not that big a deal just something nero can do
[16:33] <trhisdone> k3b is fine for one copy at a time
[16:38] <trhisdone> actually for something that is free ubuntu seems really good
[16:40] <aveilleux> trhisdone: I should hope so!
[16:40] <trhisdone> lol
[16:41] <bodhizazen> trhisdone: LOL
[16:52] <trhisdone> well i got to go....laters
[16:52] <aveilleux> trhisdone: Have fun and good luck
[16:55] <SPooN> anyone know how to download/install the Kate IDE on Maverick?
[16:58] <paultag> SPooN, sudo apt-get install kate
[16:59] <paultag> BBL
[17:01] <SPooN> http://pastebin.com/1H0qWpPs
[17:02] <aveilleux> SPooN: Do you still have Synaptic open? If so, close it.
[17:02] <sumitkv2> i installed ubutu 10.10 alongside windows xp using wubi...but now when i boot into ubuntu i get a GRUB> prompt,,,,what to do?
[17:02] <SPooN> aveilleux: I can't see it (in bottom bar) but it says its open...
[17:03] <aveilleux> SPooN: It might be on another desktop.
[17:04] <SPooN> aveilleux: says it's in "noninteractive mode".
[17:04] <SPooN> aveilleux: Transmission doesn't count does it?
[17:04] <aveilleux> SPooN: What? No, Transmission is unrelated.
[17:04] <SPooN> ok
[17:04] <aveilleux> SPooN: Transmission is a Bittorrent client.  It's running as root
[17:12] <SPooN> aveilleux: I'm the only user, so am I not root by default?
[17:12] <aveilleux> SPooN: kill -9 $(ps -ef |grep synaptic |cut -d ' ' -f 2)
[17:12] <aveilleux> SPooN: No, you're not. You can't log in as root.  Run ps -ef |grep synaptic again when you're done just to check
[17:20] <SPooN> ok
[17:20] <SPooN> thanks
[17:30] <trhisdone> hello
[17:30] <Mohan_chml> hello
[17:55] <angelo> hi!
[17:57] <angelo> Is there some work i could help in?
[17:57] <Mohan_chml> !ask | angelo
[17:57] <ubot2> angelo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:57] <hobgoblin> hi angelo - if you want to help - juts hang about and wait for someone to ask
[17:58] <bioterror> angelo, what do you mean
[17:58] <angelo> hi bioterror :-)
[17:59] <bioterror> hi
[17:59] <angelo> i mean that i'd like to help in ubuntu community; i can program in C++, Java, and other things
[17:59] <bioterror> angelo, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[17:59] <bioterror> angelo, first step is to create a launchpad.net account, if you dont have one
[17:59] <angelo> ok, thank u!
[18:00] <angelo> now i see
[18:00] <Mohan_chml> Hola hobgoblin =]
[18:01] <Mohan_chml> I think I am in half sleep. I was thinking that he was asking for help :(
[18:01]  * Mohan_chml just came from a marriage after spending days in hospital :|
[18:01] <angelo> i went there some time ago, but i read the advice about using irc
[18:01] <angelo> | bioterror
[18:02] <angelo> ah, i didnt read your last line bioterror.....
[18:02] <angelo> yes, i created it
[18:05] <bioterror> well, you should think what you want to do
[18:06] <angelo> contribute building an application such us irc, brasero, etc
[18:06] <angelo> ...
[18:06] <angelo> could u help me? What should i do?
[18:07] <angelo> for example, doing it with another person
[18:07] <angelo> im new here
[18:07] <bioterror> angelo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment#Packaging
[18:07] <angelo> :-) thank u
[18:08] <angelo> ok. Are u doing this?
[18:27] <javatexan> here is a beginner question, I am trying to play a dvd in VLC but it is copyprotected, what do I add to play this.
[18:29] <pleia2> javatexan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs should get you started
[18:30] <javatexan> ok....cool thanks
[18:46] <SPooN> !wine
[18:46] <ubot2> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[19:07] <SPooN> !appdb LoL
[19:07] <ubot2> Factoid 'appdb LoL' not found
[19:07] <SPooN> !appdb League of Legends
[19:07] <ubot2> SPooN: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:09] <zkriesse> SPooN: please do not spam the bot
[19:12] <hobgoblin> SPooN: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[19:21] <karthick87> bodhizazen: pm?
[19:24] <tronyx> guys
[19:24] <tronyx> what's the default password for sudo?????
[19:25] <zkriesse> tronyx: its not known
[19:25] <zkriesse> You're really not supposed to know
[19:26] <bluegrue> or it's the same as the first user that was created on the box
[19:26] <hobgoblin> hello tronyx - it's on the forum somewhere I am sure - I saw something once upon a time - might take a bit of google-fu
[19:26] <zkriesse> tronyx: Do you mean for sudo apt-get foo?
[19:27] <hobgoblin> tronyx: I assume you are talking about not an install
[19:28] <tronyx> lol i was just going to troll
[19:28] <tronyx> then i remembered how helpful everyone here is so i decided not to
[19:28] <zkriesse> dont even
[19:29] <zkriesse> Don't even try to troll
[19:29] <tronyx> such a helpful bunch
[19:29] <tronyx> why :(
[19:29] <hobgoblin> tronyx: I almost told you the password was pants - but didn't bother
[19:30] <hobgoblin> and how the devil are you old chap
[19:31] <tronyx> i am not sure how that's relevant
[19:32] <hobgoblin> which or what
[19:32] <tronyx> my age
[19:34] <hobgoblin> sigh
[19:35] <tronyx> i guess today isn't my day to have fun
[19:35] <tronyx> bodhizazen: i have come to turn myself in.  i am a troll
[19:37] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:37] <tronyx> but i must warn you hobgoblin, paultag is also a troll
[19:38] <hobgoblin> tronyx: don't I know it
[20:14] <Fapron_Calcon> Is there a simple way to download and install all upgrades in the backgroun, not just security updates?
[20:15] <aveilleux> ...wow, impatient.
[20:22] <tenach> aveilleux, yeah...
[20:34] <malev> hi there! I'm trying to start an app using: /etc/init.d/red5 start and it does not work. any idea where can I find the logs?
[20:36] <tronyx> perhaps /var/log
[20:56] <bodhizazen> tronyx: How is life ?
[20:56] <phillw> he he, how do I change a name from guest12345 to a name I can register with nickserv?
[20:57] <bodhizazen> malev: run the script from the command line =)
[21:07] <drubin> malev: try /var/log/daemon.log or messages  or syslog
[21:08] <bodhizazen> Anyone willing to give me feedback / constructive criticism on my new layout ?
[21:08] <bodhizazen> http://blog.bodhizazen.net/Table/iptables.php?nav=iptables
[21:08] <bodhizazen> I know, I have been working on it for a while now, but I think that is what I am going to go with for now
[21:08] <bodhizazen> TYIA
[21:08]  * bodhizazen ends shameless self promotion
[21:10] <malev> thanks drubin!
[21:10] <malev> also thanks you bodhizazen!
[21:14] <Laurent__> hi
[21:15] <Laurent__> Can somebody giv me some advice on installing Ubuntu ?
[21:19] <SPooN> Laurent__ what do you need?
[21:19] <SPooN> ohh they left..
[21:20] <SPooN> anyone know why CCSM Wobbly Windows doesn't work on 10.10?
[21:20] <LA_LA> Can I have some help on updating from 6.1 to 8.04 ?
[21:22] <SPooN> you might want 10.04 or 10.10 instead...
[21:22] <LA_LA> I already have a CD burned with 8.04.
[21:23] <SPooN> it wouldn't be at all hard to get one with 10.04 or 10.10...
[21:23] <SPooN> 8.04 is very outdated now
[21:23] <LA_LA> It looks liked 6.1 is too old to be updated from the net.
[21:24] <LA_LA> It have lots of error messages saying archives not found
[21:24] <SPooN> install 10.04 over i?
[21:24] <SPooN> it*
[21:24] <LA_LA> How can I do it ?
[21:25] <SPooN> are you dual booting?
[21:25] <LA_LA> no
[21:25] <LA_LA> I only have 6.1 on the PC
[21:26] <SPooN> then just backup all your files that you care about on a USB and install 10.04 or 10.10 over it
[21:27] <LA_LA> To do this I need a new CD with 10.10 ?
[21:28] <LA_LA> I have an old Compaq EVO N600C. It looks like it doesn't want to boot on CD.
[21:29] <SPooN> get a USB stick to boot off of.
[21:30] <LA_LA> I alreday tried to boot from USB Stick. I could not find that option in the PC setup menu.
[21:30] <SPooN> then you boot off of CD...
[21:31] <SPooN> are you sure you are in the right menu?
[21:31] <LA_LA> I think so. I can choose between booting from net, hard drive or multibay.
[21:32] <LA_LA> Don't really know what multibay is.
[21:32] <temposs> LA_LA, multibay is probably the CD Drive
[21:33] <LA_LA> When I choose this option the CD  starts turning but stops after a while and boots from hard drive
[21:35] <temposs> LA_LA, you can update 6.10 from the net
[21:35] <temposs> it's just not as easy
[21:36] <LA_LA> Can you direct me to something like a tutorial explaining hhow ?
[21:37] <temposs> I may be able to help
[21:38] <LA_LA> Great. Thanks What should I do ?
[21:38] <SPooN> does anyone know how to get minefield to work on maverick?
[21:39] <paultag> tronyx, ohai
[21:40] <temposs> LA_LA, the idea will be to upgrade 6.10->7.04->7.10->8.04->10.04
[21:41] <temposs> LA_LA, it will take a while
[21:41] <LA_LA> temposs, when I try to go 6.1->7.04 it tells lots of archives can't be found
[21:41] <temposs> LA_LA, I know, because they've moved the files to another server
[21:42] <temposs> where all of the old releases are kept
[21:42] <temposs> so you have to manually change the URL that it's looking in
[21:42] <LA_LA> Ok. I understand
[21:43] <LA_LA> What is the new URL and where do I have to change it ?
[21:43] <temposs> LA_LA, first, do the command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:44] <stlsaint> temposs: may want to make a backup of that file prior to editing ;)
[21:44] <temposs> stlsaint, good idea :-)
[21:44] <stlsaint> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old (or .bak)
[21:45] <temposs> LA_LA, use stlsaint's command to make a backup for your sources.list
[21:45] <temposs> before we start in
[21:45] <stlsaint> bbiab
[21:46] <LA_LA> the backup is done.
[21:46] <LA_LA> Now I gedit
[21:48] <temposs> So, you should see a bunch of lines that begin with "deb"
[21:49] <LA_LA> Yes
[21:49] <temposs> followed by a URL, followed by some keywords
[21:49] <trhisdone> hello
[21:49] <tenach> Hello trhisdone
[21:49] <LA_LA> Yes . security..ubutun and so on
[21:50] <SPooN> SPooN is now away. Highlight if needed.
[21:50] <trhisdone> security is over rated
[21:50] <trhisdone> freedom not security should be the goal
[21:51] <temposs> LA_LA, for every line, you need to change any mentione of edgy to feisty
[21:51] <temposs> *mention
[21:51] <trhisdone> ubuntu is a kenyon word for kennedy
[21:52] <LA_LA> Temposs, I changed them.
[21:52] <temposs> also, in the URLs, change every mention of "archive" to "old-releases"
[21:54] <temposs> LA_LA, also, change "security" to "old-releases" in the URLs
[21:54] <temposs> but only in the URLs
[21:54] <LA_LA> Temposs, I changed all of them
[21:54] <temposs> so, you will change archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[21:55] <temposs> that's what you should have
[21:56] <temposs> LA_LA, that should do it, so you save the file
[21:56] <LA_LA> It is saved
[21:56] <temposs> then, do the command: sudo apt-get update
[21:57] <temposs> then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:57] <temposs> and you should begin upgrading to feisty
[21:58] <LA_LA> It is downloading lots of files ...
[21:58] <temposs> you will need to repeat these steps for every version of Ubuntu until you get to your goal
[21:58] <temposs> LA_LA, yes, upgrading means downloading every file for the new version
[21:58] <temposs> it will take quite a while to get through it all
[21:59] <LA_LA> I Understand. Can you just tell me what comes after feisty ?
[21:59] <temposs> gutsy
[21:59] <LA_LA> OK.
[21:59] <temposs> then hardy
[21:59] <LA_LA> Do I have to restart the computer after every update ?
[22:00] <temposs> yes
[22:00] <LA_LA> Ok. I'll do it right now.
[22:00] <temposs> wait
[22:00] <temposs> it shouldn't be done
[22:00] <temposs> you don't have to restart after sudo apt-get update
[22:01] <temposs> just restart after sudo apt-get upgrade finishes
[22:02] <LA_LA> TOK.   Thank you very much for you help temposs
[22:02] <temposs> ^_^
[22:02] <temposs> oh, so you only have to do this twice
[22:02] <temposs> edgy->feisty and feisty->gutsy
[22:03] <temposs> after that, you should be able to use Update Manager to upgrade normally
[22:04] <temposs> because hardy is still supported; it's not an old release
[22:04] <temposs> so you don't have to do the old-releases method
[22:06] <LA_LA> OK. I have an error message. I have a french version of Ubuntu and it looks like the FR version is not on old-releases.
[22:06] <LA_LA> Ok
[22:07] <temposs> ohhhh
[22:07] <temposs> I didn't know that ;-)
[22:07] <yofel> old-release should have all releases, I'm not sure if all the localization is kept though
[22:09] <temposs> LA_LA, did the upgrade fail? what is the error you got?
[22:10] <LA_LA> The messages are like :"Impossible de récupérer http://fr.old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Ne parvient pas à résoudre « fr.old-releases.ubuntu.com »"
[22:12] <temposs> LA_LA, you need to edit your sources.list again and remove the "fr." from the URLs
[22:12] <temposs> there is no fr.old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <LA_LA> Ok. I do it.
[22:17] <temposs> LA_LA, after you edit the file, you need to again update and upgrade in order to try the upgrade again
[22:17] <LA_LA> temposs, lines starting with a # are commented ?
[22:18] <temposs> LA_LA, yes
[22:18] <Nisorin> Can someone give me a  hand getting a dell Inspiron 1440 with Maverick Meerkat online? I have tried using the Additional Drivers applet, under Administration. Says the driver is activated but not currently in use, but I can not connect to any networks, or even enable/disable wireless.
[22:24] <SPooN> Nisorin, I had the same problem
[22:24] <SPooN> Nisorin, do you have access to a hardwired internet connection?
[22:25] <Nisorin> Yes, Ethernet connections do work, and I was plugged in for the entire time I was trying to get the wireless connections to work.
[22:27] <SPooN> Nisorin, you were plugged in while trying to add the driver?
[22:27] <Nisorin> Yes.
[22:27] <LA_LA> temposs, There are no more .fr in the sources.list file but it still tries to reach URL containing .fr archive and edgy.
[22:28] <LA_LA> Temposs, is source.list the only used file ?
[22:28] <SPooN> hmm...
[22:29] <SPooN> Nisorin, what options do you see in additional drivers?
[22:29] <Nisorin> Broadcom STA wireless driver, saying it was tested by the Ubuntu developers, license: Proprietary. Only option in the list.
[22:30] <temposs> LA_LA, did you do: sudo apt-get update
[22:31] <stlsaint_> Nemos_Girlfriend: ?? nemos girlfriend?
[22:31] <Nemos_Girlfriend> stlsaint, its an inside joke with some guys in another channel
[22:32] <Nemos_Girlfriend> Nisorin, and what can you do with it? Remove, Activate?
[22:33] <Nisorin> Remove.
[22:33] <Nemos_Girlfriend> Nisorin, Green dot, then it says "This driver is ____" Fill in the blanks?
[22:34] <Nisorin> @SPooll "This driver is activated but not currently in use.
[22:34] <ubot2> Nisorin: Error: No closing quotation
[22:34] <LA_LA> temposs, yes I did. Most of the download  worked fine. Some error messages with archives, fr and edgy still appeared even if there are none left in the sources.list file.
[22:34] <Nisorin> SPooll This driver is activated but not currently in use.
[22:34] <SPooN> its an "n"
[22:34] <SPooN> :P
[22:34] <SPooN> hmm
[22:34] <SPooN> I don't know what this is...
[22:35] <SPooN> what wireless card do you have?
[22:35] <Nisorin> Checking...
[22:35] <SPooN> thanks
[22:36] <temposs> LA_LA, ok, need to get that working; are you sure that you saved the file properly?
[22:36] <temposs> LA_LA, maybe you saved as a different name or a different location?
[22:38] <LA_LA> I cd to /etc/apt and did a more of the sources.list. Looks OK.  Once, booting back into Maverick Meerkat, the other into Windows 7.
[22:45]  * SPooN fasepalms
[22:45] <SPooN> I dun geddit....
[22:46] <LA_LA> temposs, Under /etc/apt there is a directory sources.list.d with edgy-multiverse.list  edgy-universe.list files. These files contain edgy and archive and fr.
[22:47] <temposs> LA_LA, ah, that's probably the issue
[22:47] <temposs> LA_LA, good work finding that
[22:49] <LA_LA> temposs, here is the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/SwTpvFfY
[22:49] <temposs> LA_LA, probably just open those files and comment out all the uncommented lines
[22:50] <AudeDai> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu and I am having a problem.
[22:50] <AudeDai> Or at least I'm not sure if it is a problem
[22:51] <AudeDai> I have chosen my password, username, computer name, and my name but i can't click forward and the download is not continuing. Any suggestions?
[22:52] <temposs> LA_LA, maybe also uncomment the two universe lines in sources.list as well
[22:52] <temposs> LA_LA, lines 19 & 20 in the pastebin
[22:52] <Nisorin> SPooN, got to go. Will be back in a couple minutes.
[22:53] <AudeDai> any suggestions for my problem?
[22:55] <LA_LA> temposs, still some error with wine but looks really better know.
[22:55] <temposs> AudeDai, probably you haven't filled in all the spaces
[22:55] <LA_LA> Will try to reboot now.
[22:56] <AudeDai> I've looked back and forth over them all and I can't find anything at all
[22:56] <temposs> LA_LA, why reboot?
[22:57] <AudeDai> There isn't a check mark next to my username like the rest of the boxes. But I chose Prime. I don't think thats the problem
[22:57] <LA_LA> temposs, I thought I hat to restart to boot on the newly installed edgy ?
[22:57] <LA_LA> Not edgy, feisty !
[22:57] <temposs> LA_LA, did you run: sudo apt-get upgrade?
[22:58] <temposs> LA_LA, you haven't installed anything until you do that
[22:59] <temposs> it will take quite a bit of time
[22:59] <LA_LA> temposs, ok. I do it.
[23:00] <Nisorin> Back, SPooN.
[23:03] <Ggtus> The ext4 file systek creation in partition#5 of scsi3(0,0,0) (sda) failed
[23:03] <AudeDai> It just says on the bottom of the install screen "Getting the time from a network time server..." but its been saying that for a while now
[23:09] <LA_LA> temposs, dowloading is in progress. As it is 24:00 my time, I will leave it for a while. Thanks to you I understood how it works. Will finish it later. Cheers.
[23:09] <temposs> :-) awesome, you're welcome
[23:13] <AudeDai> figured it out. Had to use the Account name they provided
[23:13] <AudeDai> wierd
[23:13] <AudeDai> thanks guys
[23:19] <Nisorin> Did SPooN go afk?
[23:19] <Ggtus> I'm running chkdsk