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[01:05] <KGB-1> glibmm upstream/latest b4c3d23 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 11 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3uGBd
[01:06] <KGB-1> glibmm upstream/latest 6fe8655 Kjell Ahlstedt glib/glibmm/ustring.h * Glib::ustring: Remove extraneous GLIBMM_API * https://deb.li/Mkyl
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[02:03] <callmepk> good morning
[05:21] <jibel> Good morning all
[05:24] <callmepk> hi jibel
[05:25] <jibel> Hey callmepk
[06:37] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:03] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:04] <oSoMoN> hey jpnurmi
[07:05] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN
[07:05] <callmepk> hi oSoMoN jpnurmi
[07:05] <jpnurmi> hey callmepk
[07:13] <didrocks> good morning
[07:13] <callmepk> hi didrocks
[07:14] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, salut didrocks
[07:16] <didrocks> hey callmepk, salut oSoMoN
[07:16] <jibel> salut didrocks oSoMoN jpnurmi
[07:18] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:18] <jpnurmi> hey jibel didrocks
[07:19] <didrocks> morning jpnurmi
[07:39] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:40] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, seb128
[07:42] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:42] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, didrocks, en forme ? vous avez passé un bon weekend?
[07:43] <oSoMoN> super week-end bien reposant, beaucoup dormi (plus que d’habitude en tous cas) et pas fait grand chose… et toi?
[07:44] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, toujours du boulot à la maison, mais ça avance :)
[07:46] <seb128> weekend assez reposant, les nuits on été ok et il a fait beau en journée, on a rien fait du spécial
[07:50] <callmepk> hi seb128
[07:55] <jibel> salut seb128
[08:13] <seb128> lut jibel, hey callmepk
[08:39] <jibel> Has filesystem check during boot of the ISO been removed from impish?
[08:40] <seb128> jibel, it is happening in background since hirsute, no % displayed on plymouth, x_nox remove it because the rational was that we wouldn't block on the result anyway so we were slowing start to not make use of the result
[08:42] <seb128> jibel, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/1.457 describes it
[08:42] <jibel> k, thanks
[08:46] <jibel> it is still blocking on hirsute though but doesn't display anything. but it's fixed on I
[09:52] <seb128> Trevinho, how is the default session determined in gdm? on a impish nvidia installation xorg is picked by default despite wayland being listed?
[09:52] <Trevinho> seb128: yes, xorg is default, and nvidia is fallback
[09:52] <Trevinho> err wayland
[09:53] <Trevinho> that's because of the udev rule we ship to still prefer xorg on nvidia
[09:53] <Trevinho> and alberto was agreeing to that was better to do this as first stage
[09:59] <Trevinho> ah, the rule is the one upstream too, not something ubuntu specific
[10:17] <seb128> ah ok
[10:20] <seb128> tseliot-, hey, is that expected that ubuntu-drivers --autoinstall pulls in a stack of i386 packages?
[10:20] <jibel> talking about wayland, after a restart the default session is always wayland even if it was xorg previously
[10:20] <jibel> is it known?
[10:21] <seb128> jibel, you selected manually wayland? because here it defaults to xorg
[10:23] <seb128> jibel, bug #1945750 is the reverse
[10:24] <seb128> also for me with the nvidia binary driver enabled the x11 session fails to start
[10:24] <seb128> it gives me a fb loaded, no screen found error in the journal
[10:26] <jibel> seb128, no I selected Xorg and it always goes back to wayland on reboot
[10:26] <jibel> and I'm on intel
[10:26] <seb128> ah, sorry I was stucked in nvidia mode
[10:28] <seb128> jibel, bug  #1945008 I guess then?
[10:33] <jibel> Yeah, that looks like it
[10:34] <jibel> seb128, do you think we should attempt to fix it for this release?
[10:36] <seb128> we should but I would be fine with it being a SRU
[10:36] <jibel> okay, I'll target it anyway. Feel free to drop the priority
[11:23] <seb128> Trevinho, ^ could you try to check that gdm issue if are still in work mode and quarantine? otherwise no hurry we will see what we can do
[18:34] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng pristine-tar 2565c18 Gunnar Hjalmarsson gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng_23.orig.tar.gz.delta gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng_23.orig.tar.gz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng_23.orig.tar.gz * https://deb.li/Idxx
[18:35] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest abca964 Gunnar Hjalmarsson * pushed 127 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3BL52
[18:35] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest 66cfa5c Sergio Costas HISTORY.md * Added the current work in HISTORY * https://deb.li/Zd2s
[18:35] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest a8913db Sundeep Mediratta desktopManager.js * https://deb.li/3LN9U
[18:35] <KGB-0> Fix preview not showing with space regression
[18:35] <KGB-0> Allow searching for filename beginning with a space
[18:36] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest 7425f24 Sergio Costas desktopManager.js * Merge branch 'fix-preview-file-regression' into 'master' * https://deb.li/0GCn
[18:36] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest e019065 Sergio Costas HISTORY.md * Updated History.md * https://deb.li/3kGEl
[18:36] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng upstream/latest 0ed4e37 Sundeep Mediratta fileItemMenu.js * Fix showerrorpup in fileitemmenu.js * https://deb.li/i740I
[18:36] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng tags 54e457f Gunnar Hjalmarsson upstream/23 * Upstream version 23 * https://deb.li/ip4X7
[20:27] <rbasak> So an Impish upgrade switched me to the Firefox snap (I was on the deb in Impish before as I didn't have connectivity at the time the snap upgrade was attempted). But now every time my laptop resumes from standby all the tabs report as crashed. Has anyone else seen this?
[20:27] <rbasak> I looked for #ubuntu+1 but that channel doesn't seem to exist any more?
[20:28] <rbasak> Maybe I should reboot before looking harder.
[21:34] <oSoMoN> rbasak, that could possibly be bug #1946599
[21:36] <oSoMoN> if so, the bug should be fixed in the upcoming firefox 94.0 (currently in beta, the next beta build will have the fix)
[21:36] <oSoMoN> rbasak, if you can still reproduce the problem after rebooting, could you try the workaround suggested here? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1732580#c14
[21:38] <oSoMoN> you'll need to open `about:config` in firefox, and set the value of `security.sandbox.content.read_path_whitelist` to "/snap/firefox/631/" (assuming 631 is your current revision, note that the trailing slash matters)
[21:38] <oSoMoN> restart firefox after that, and hopefully the problem is gone
[21:38] <oSoMoN> either way, I'm interested in your feedback
[21:39] <oSoMoN> I'm going offline to get some rest now, please comment on the bug, thanks!


[00:06] <en11gma> guiverc thanks!
[00:22] <en11gma> anyone have a link for a fast server? i got 2 hours left still
[07:27] <PaulW2U> 126 packages updated. Rebooted and gjs-console, seahorse and gnome-shell all crashed on log-in
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: wow, did you fix it or find a related bug?
[09:22] <PaulW2U> "/print -beep
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: my reboot after updates went well, no crashes
[09:30] <PaulW2U> "/print -beep
[09:46] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: sorry for beep text ???  looked in /var/crash, three uploaded crash files
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[09:46] <PaulW2U> Been out shopping. Crashed again on login
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> i still got that GJS spam in my journals though, bug #1965673
[09:47] <PaulW2U> Crash seems to happen as I'm entering password. Three characters entered and then freeze
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> oh, i got autologin enabled
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> not sure i wanna go try lol
[09:48] <PaulW2U> I might install Kubuntu - too many problems here less than three weeks before release :)
[19:01] <jonathan> I've been looking through launchpad bug reports, but I haven't come across anyone reporting an issue with downloading files from the Brave browser.  I haven't attempted another browser yet though...  Has anyone experience an issue with the save prompt not appearing without error prompts?
[19:02] <jonathan> I would imagine that it's not just Brave running into the issue, but I can't confirm this just yet.
[19:02] <jje> yes with chrome i am having the same problem
[19:05] <jonathan> have you happened to try firefox or a non-chromium based browser, per chance?
[19:12] <enigma9o7[m]> like epiphany?
[19:12] <enigma9o7[m]> what else besides firefox and epiphany is not chromium based?
[19:12] <enigma9o7[m]> i guess firefox forks like palemoon and librewolf
[19:13] <jonathan> hm, probably true.  Most have chromium at the core
[19:13] <jje> jonathan: yes i have had the same problem with firefox
[19:13] <enigma9o7[m]> good god no
[19:14] <jonathan> jje: ok, so system bug then.  Sounds like it isn't just me.  Thanks for checking
[19:14] <jje> no problem
[19:14] <jonathan> enigma907[m]: You're saying that most browsers don't have chromium at, at least, the core?
[19:32] <enigma9o7[m]> The opposite.
[19:32] <enigma9o7[m]> I'm saying, these days, firefox and epiphany are the only non-chromium browsers.
[19:33] <enigma9o7[m]> Epihpany uses webkit (same as safari) and firefox uses i think gecko.
[19:33] <jonathan> Gotcha, I definitely think there are more, but that number is dwindling!
[19:33] <jonathan> Sadly...


[02:10] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:32] <sachin6870> Hi Everyone
[02:32] <AnonYmous2> hey
[02:32] <sachin6870> Hey, I need your help for some informations
[02:33] <sachin6870> I want to contribute to Gnome desktop for Ubuntu
[02:33] <sachin6870> I developed one gnome applet, I want it be part of ubuntu official repo
[02:34] <sachin6870> Its been huge success so far.
[02:34] <sachin6870> http://cricscoreapplet.sourceforge.net/
[02:34] <sachin6870> is anyone there who can help me with procedure?
[02:35] <AnonYmous2> sry; not able to help u myself, but guys @ ubuntu/gnome dev channels may be able to assist
[02:35] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:38] <sachin6870> ok
[02:48] <Amaranth> sachin6870: You'd want #ubuntu-motu for help with packaging
[03:00] <sachin6870> ok Thanks Amaranth
[09:04] <baptistemm> hello
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> halfline - are you about?
[15:27] <baptistemm> huats !!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/nbarcet/4162907558/in/set-72157622821502927/


[00:04] <Guest40418> anyone know a sidebar like the one on vista?
[00:27] <rmrfslash> kuuuuuuuuuuuubuntu
[00:27] <p_quarles> never heard of it
[00:36] <jake__> Hello
[00:37] <jake__> I have a question about kde4 if anyone can help
[00:37] <maestre> edit
[00:38] <jake__> kde4 is not very configurable...am I missing something or is that how it is...or is there a way to add items to a right click
[00:38] <LiGHTRokHE> o.0?
[00:39] <LiGHTRokHE> is like, but not a linux windowmized
[00:39] <LiGHTRokHE> =X
[00:39] <LiGHTRokHE> jake__: what are you looking for?
[00:40] <jake__> well I'd like to add another panel but there is no widget for it and I'd like to change the color of the main panel
[00:40] <jake__> the clock only displays 24 hour not 12
[00:40] <jake__> and no weather widget like on gnome
[00:42] <jake__> I'd also like to make new directories on a right click on the desktop and just other configurable things that gnome regular kde has
[00:45] <jake__> is this how kde4 is or am I missing something
[00:46] <maestre> xxxcccscxsv
[00:46] <maestre> vcs
[00:46] <maestre> vc
[00:46] <maestre> v
[00:46] <maestre> cdf
[00:46] <jake__> I'd also like to thank anyone who develops for linux in general...I just deleted windows after using it since 1997 so thanks for making linux better
[00:50] <Pici> maestre: Please stop.
[00:51] <Dragnslcr> jake__- time format is in System Settings -> Regional & Language
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> jake__- if you right-click an existing panel, there's an Add Panel option
[00:52] <jake__> no there isn't
[00:53] <jake__> it says task manager settings and panel settings
[00:53] <jake__> and there not much when I click either of those
[00:54] <jake__> panel settings are only size and location
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> What version of KDE?
[00:54] <jake__> kde4
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> More specifically?
[00:54] <jake__> how would I input to terminal to find out?
[00:55] <zer0o> hi guys, how do i get back something that i deleted?
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> K Menu -> Help, then Help -> About KDE will give you your KDE version
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> Help -> About in any KDE4 app will tell you, too (Konversation is still using KDE3, so that won't work)
[00:56] <jake__> kde 4.0.3
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> Well there's your problem right there
[00:56] <zer0o> is there a way to get back my deleted files? or they're gone forever?
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> KDE 4.0 was never really meant to be used
[00:56] <jake__> hahaha
[00:57] <Dragnslcr> Kubuntu 8.10 has KDE 4.1 by default, and KDE 4.2 is available in backports
[00:57] <jake__> so I should just go back to regular kde 3.5?
[00:57] <nukem2525> is there going to be an upgrade path from 8.04 w/ KDE3 to 9.04 w/ KDE3?
[00:57] <nukem2525> or will it require a fresh install?
[00:57] <jake__> I have ubuntu 8.04 cause 8.10 wouldn't install on my computer
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> If 8.04 is all you have, probably stick with KDE3
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> I can't remember if they packaged 4.2 for 8.04
[00:58] <LiGHTRokHE> zer0o: what kind of FS are you using?
[00:58] <LiGHTRokHE> zer0o: http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/~mojo/undelete.html
[00:59] <zer0o> fs?
[00:59] <jake__> ok thanks I'll check it out
[00:59] <LiGHTRokHE> fs type
[00:59] <LiGHTRokHE> zer0o: fs type, ext2, ext3? xfs?
[00:59] <zer0o> ext3 i think
[01:01] <LiGHTRokHE> zer0o: mount -o remount,ro /mountpoint ;
[01:01] <LiGHTRokHE> e2undel    - Undelete utility for the ext2 file system
[01:01] <LiGHTRokHE> recover    - Undelete files on ext2 partitions
[01:01] <LiGHTRokHE> gtkrecover - GUI for recover
[01:01] <zer0o> whatz that?
[01:02] <zer0o> u tellin me if i delete something it remains on my hd somewhere?
[01:05] <nukem2525> zer0o:most of the time, yes
[01:06] <LiGHTRokHE> hehe
[01:06] <LiGHTRokHE> c ya people!
[01:06] <nukem2525> it doesnt actually get removed, the space just gets marked as avalible
[01:06] <nukem2525> the data doesn
[01:06] <nukem2525> the data doesn't get destroyed until somthing gets written to that area
[01:07] <Strav> he. Got some questions about qt4.5 drawing artifacts bug on jaunty (if there's anyone concerned). Is there a clear reason why this bug should be blamed on both affected ati and intel drivers or should I consider the "it works when I switch to uxa" sufficient (even when jaunty is gonna rely on exa accel)?
[01:30] <salpta> Very quick question, because it's been a while.  Is linux still having trouble read/writing to NTSF partitions?  Or has that issue been solved?
[01:33] <Strav> salpta: never had any problem reading from ntfs, however I haven't yet experienced a clean solution for writing...
[01:34] <Strav> (it's been a year since I tried)
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> I believe the NTFS drivers can do read/write now
[01:36] <OxDeadC0de> is it possible to do something like, partition a CD-rw so one part contains a kernel, the other part contains the OS, but the part that contains the OS is in some format that can be used read/write with a proper cd-rw drive, so a live linux distribution could have some kind of permanent storage
[01:37] <Strav> last thing I used for it was: captive-ntfs
[01:37] <OxDeadC0de> ntfs-3g has no problems with ntfs
[01:39] <Strav> ... ntfs-3g looks better :)
[01:40] <OxDeadC0de> I was thinking about creating a minimil live distro with at least xorg, a nice wm, firefox, apache2, mysql, php5, and have the mysql part modifiable, so people in the field without a connection to the internet can access a recent version of the db, store information, then I can sync them when they do get a connection (somehow..)
[01:41] <Sonnentae> what do I need to do to mount a second harddrive? it keeps appearing as if it's external
[01:44] <OxDeadC0de> sonnentae add an entry to fstab
[01:45] <SuspectZero> is there a program that adds entries to my kmenu automatically using the /usr/bin folder as a reference of available programs?
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Not that I know of. Pretty sure K Menu entries are added by the package
[01:47] <SuspectZero> dang
[01:48] <OxDeadC0de> SuspectZero I'm sure a script in any language would be easy to make to do that
[01:48] <SuspectZero> yea but i need somehing a bit more complex, like it has to make a menu folder regarding the type of program and stuff
[01:48] <OxDeadC0de> Just look at the .desktop file for an existing entry, make a template from it, generate the proper values from the results of ls /usr/bin/, store them in seperate files
[01:48] <SuspectZero> no .desktop files generated
[01:49] <OxDeadC0de> then modify kickoff yourself? ^^
[01:49] <OxDeadC0de> or make a new menu plasmoid, shouldn't be very hard to do
[01:49] <SuspectZero> yea
[01:57] <salpta> Had to walk away.  Thanks for the input. =)
[01:57] <Sonnentae> OxDeadC0de: I did add to fstab but root owns it so I can't modify anything?
[02:03] <OxDeadC0de> - /dev/hdc1 /media/ide auto defaults 0 1
[02:22] <excalibas> hello is it possible to use glmatrix as my desktop background?
[02:27] <ubuntu> hi, I'm trying to restore grub after installing windows.  I followed the directions on help.ubuntu.com, but when I try to "grub> setup (hd0)" I get "Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed Error 22: No such partition"
[02:29] <xathullu> hey I got a question about my screen resolution in ubuntu
[02:35] <joshjtl> hey folks... anyone recommend a tag editor for audio files?
[02:38] <MrInternet> hei guiz. i haz teh problems.  For example, right now.
[02:39] <MrInternet> (Maybe I should just delete the config file or something...)
[02:41] <FloridaGuy> where can i get a repo link for kde 4.2.2
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> FloridaGuy- link is in the topic
[02:44] <lorecaster> Lookin for the W
[02:44] <lorecaster> WINE forum, can someone get me that address?
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> !wine
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> Hm, was hoping the link would be there
[02:45] <geek_> lorecaster: try lookin around winehq.org (.com?)
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> I think it's http://www.winehq.org
[02:45] <lorecaster> no help there... was looking for the IRC room
[02:46] <geek_> oh
[02:46] <geek_> #winehq ?
[02:46] <lorecaster> got it, thanks
[02:49] <Priest> Does anyone know if there is an official printed kubuntu specific book?
[02:50] <Priest> I know there is one for ubuntu
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> Yeah. Chapter 1: Waiting For An Answer
[02:53] <White_Pelican> hehe
[02:55] <thismamacooks200> 3D was working great. But suddenly games run less that 1 fps. but, glxgears runs at 205+ fps. I have an Intel card.
[03:02] <ubuntu> hi, I can't fix grub on my machine.  Everything I've tried breaks.  Can anyone help me?
[03:02] <ubuntu> Also, I can't install
[03:09] <rmrfslash> anyone usin' radeonhd?
[03:09] <rmrfslash> xserver-xorg-driver-radeonhd (to be exact)
[03:12] <rmrfslash> booo
[03:16] <steevz> I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883.
[03:16] <steevz> When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen:
[03:16] <steevz> HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog)
[03:16] <steevz> Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work.
[03:17] <steevz> Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function.
[03:17] <steevz> I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out.
[03:17] <steevz> Any ideas?
[03:28] <steevz> I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883.
[03:28] <steevz> When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen:
[03:28] <steevz> HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog)
[03:28] <steevz> Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work.
[03:28] <steevz> Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function.
[03:28] <steevz> I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out.
[03:28] <steevz> Any ideas?
[03:31] <Imortallis> is it possible to have more than one GUI on one machine?
[03:33] <geek_> Imortallis: you mean more than one desktop environment?
[03:33] <sancho21> How to start kubuntu live using netboot?
[03:34] <thismamacooks200> imortallis: yes, when you log in you can choose a session with any GUIs you have installed
[03:34] <sancho21> I don't have cdrom
[03:34] <sancho21> just pxe card
[03:34] <geek_> sancho21: do you have an os already in the box?
[03:34] <sancho21> Yes
[03:34] <sancho21> yes geek
[03:34] <geek_> you could use unetbootin i think
[03:36] <sancho21> geek_, actually I've manage do create netboot using dhcp, but the live session can't start. Instead, it entered blue instalation screen
[03:37] <geek_> blue installation screen *is* netboot i think >_>
[03:37] <sancho21> geek_ besides, I want to know if I can start live session using netboot
[03:38] <geek_> never heard of anyone doing that
[03:41] <sancho21> geek_, So netboot only means for installation? Not for live session?
[03:41] <geek_> sancho21: ya
[03:43] <sancho21> Actually I've installed ubuntu there, but the boot was messed up by windows installation. There is now cdrom just pxe card. How to fix that?
[03:43] <sancho21> the cdrom have just broken
[03:53] <mycroft61> sup
[04:12] <steevz> I just put a new motherboard and cpu into my computer and now I'm not getting any sound. Realtek ALC883.
[04:12] <steevz> When I boot I get this error at the top of the screen:
[04:12] <steevz> HDA ATI SB (ALC883 Analog)
[04:12] <steevz> Codec Realtek ALC883 does not work.
[04:12] <steevz> Then it reverts back to some other codec that doesn't function.
[04:12] <steevz> I can hear like half of the Kubuntu startup music before it cuts out.
[04:12] <steevz> Any ideas?
[04:18] <msi> hola, como cambio  a ubuntu, venezuela
[04:26] <dwidmann> steevz: hmm, I've seen that one before myself ... I forget how to deal with it, I'll dig around
[04:34] <ksting> i need help, kopete in jaunty cant recieved and send webcam
[05:03] <solepixel> i just installed kubuntu and when i try to boot, i get "GRUB" and it doesn't do anything
[05:04] <maduser> does a list pop up?
[05:04] <solepixel> nope, just the word GRUB
[05:04] <solepixel> and a flashing cursor
[05:05] <solepixel> i had a previous distro of linux + windows installed on this computer in the past
[05:05] <solepixel> but i thought i wiped the hd clean
[05:05] <solepixel> and just installed kubuntu on it
[05:05] <maduser> did you set in the install settings in advanced to install grub?
[05:06] <solepixel> not for kubuntu, but i think i did a long time ago when my friend installed linux so it would dual boot and i could choose when i booted it up
[05:07] <maduser> ok, this is the error when grub is looking for the boot inmage in the wrog place
[05:08] <maduser> try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-597227.html
[05:16] <ytoox> I got a vaio laptop with an integrated camera and microhphone, but the microphone is not working
[05:16] <ytoox> can you help me?
[05:58] <factotum> awesome work with 9.04. I haven't used KDE since 3.2 on Slackware 9. This is slick and makes a great alternative as a developer platfrom. It's very comfortable and the software is great. Good work!
[06:03] <factotum> buttcheeks
[06:43] <sardano> Hi for all!
[06:44] <sardano> Please how can I install KDE 4.2 stable on Ubuntu 8.10? I am learning Ubuntu...
[06:44] <tsimpson> sardano: see the channel topic
[06:45] <geek_> sardano: there's a link to a howto on the channel topic ;P
[06:46] <sardano> FAQ or News?
[06:48] <geek_>  KDE 4.2.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[06:48] <geek_> that
[06:48] <sardano> geek: Thanks!
[07:25] <Guest35091> Hello
[07:25] <freeze> Hi
[07:25] <Guest35091> I'm having a problem with nepomuk
[07:25] <nukem2525> is there going to be an upgrade path between 8.04 w/ KDE3 and 9.04 w/ KDE3 or will it require a fresh install?
[07:26] <Guest35091> I started indexing, and I realized there was a folder I didn't want to index
[07:26] <Guest35091> I disabled it, but now when I continue indexing it still indexes the now disabled folder
[07:26] <Guest35091> Any ideas?
[07:27] <freeze> Sorry, no ideas
[07:27] <freeze> What is your notebook?
[07:27] <geek_> nukem2525: there's no official KDE3 for 9.04
[07:28] <geek_> you'll probably end up needing to use a third party repo
[07:28] <Guest35091> What is a notebook?
[07:28] <freeze> yes
[07:29] <freeze> Sorry for bad english... i'm from russia
[07:29] <freeze> =)
[07:32] <geek_> lol
[07:32] <geek_> i think it'll be out next week, and ubuntu is and always will be free, freeze.
[08:00] <dalton2345> hi everyone is there a voip app on the live cd?
[08:38] <ibrar> How to configure ODBC for postgres in ubuntu
[08:48] <faLUCE> hi. how can I convert an unsigned int into a std::string representing its hex value ? thnks
[08:59] <ryan_> i am on kde-look.org trying to download a theme how do i go about installing it?
[09:02] <ryan_> anyone around?
[09:14] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> Hi all. When running firefox, I get the following error back and it won't start. any ideas? Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 416: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
[09:15] <schmidtma> hi, just installed 9.04 and found quassel-irc. is quassel the kde4 port of konversation? or is it a new project?
[09:15] <Tm_T> schmidtma: separate project
[09:16] <Tm_T> schmidtma: you can run quassel in server-client mode too, but by (Kubuntu)default it's client only
[09:17] <schmidtma> ah ok good to know. though i dont need an irc server :D
[09:17] <schmidtma> thanks
[09:18] <Tm_T> schmidtma: it's not irc server, more like "client server" (:
[09:18] <schmidtma> ok, i dont realy understand :) but i will have a look into quassel and i'm sure i will understand in the future
[09:20] <schmidtma> is konversations development halted? or is it just a new project for fun and honor?
[09:20] <Tm_T> schmidtma: Konversation is still going on, but it's not ready yet for everyday use
[09:25] <dwidmann> schmidtma: what he means is that the GUI is separated from everything the app does ... so you can be signed in once, and you can have multiple UIs for it, even across multiple with machines, all with the same sign-in, etc ... if that makes more sense
[09:26] <schmidtma> dwidmann, yes it does :)
[10:12] <noaXess> hi all..
[10:13] <noaXess> just for my understanding.. if i want 4gb ram.. need i the 64bit version of ubuntu or will the 32bit see my 4gb?
[10:14] <JohnFlux> noaXess: in 32bit, the kernel would take 1GB and userspace the other 3GB
[10:14] <JohnFlux> noaXess: most of the 1GB would be wasted
[10:15] <noaXess> JohnFlux: so.. .. wasted means not used?
[10:15] <JohnFlux> right
[10:15] <noaXess> JohnFlux: so better use 64bit version
[10:15] <JohnFlux> noaXess: well some things don't work well in 64 bit version
[10:15] <noaXess> i'm building i host machine for virtualbox and need ram.. so i think i will take 64bit and min 4gb ram
[10:16] <JohnFlux> noaXess: typically propreitary plugins like flash
[10:16] <noaXess> JohnFlux: don't need flash on this host.. it will be only ubuntu-server edition.. 64bit.. so, now X
[10:16] <noaXess> no X
[10:17] <dwidmann> JohnFlux: flash seems to work fine for me here .... courtesy of nspluginwrapper, of course
[10:17] <JohnFlux> dwidmann: yeah, just highlighting potential issues
[10:18] <dwidmann> If it's not an issue, why highlight it? Flash works fine ...
[10:20] <werner_> hello
[10:21] <yaa_> hi zadrotta
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: could install te server kernel and use PAE if you only ave a 32bit chip
[10:28]  * ActionParsnip checks his h key
[10:28] <JohnFlux> ActionParsnip: use PAE on a 32 bit chip?
[10:28] <JohnFlux> ActionParsnip: I don't think that works
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: the server install allows more RAM to be used on a 32bit rig
[10:29] <JohnFlux> ActionParsnip: Isn't it only for when the rig is 64bit but the kernel is 32bit?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/out-of-memory-on-16gb-ram-pae-32bit-2.6.23-596609/
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit chip but with linux there is no need now (Ive had isues with Java but i dont use it personally so no issue here)
[10:32] <JohnFlux> ActionParsnip: that post still sounds like the hardware is 64bit
[10:32] <JohnFlux> but with a 32 bit kernel
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: te kernel manages the memory
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: so the memory access is limited by the addressing that the kernel can perform
[10:33] <JohnFlux> ActionParsnip: you underlying hardware still needs to use 64 bit addressing etc
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: i guess so
[10:34] <JohnFlux> ah wikipedia says:
[10:34] <JohnFlux> The x86 processor hardware is augmented with additional address lines used to select the additional memory, so physical address size is increased from 32 bits to 36 bits.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> JohnFlux: you'll find most 32bit boards only support limited ram
[10:34] <JohnFlux> So you can use PAE on 32bit architecture with the 4 etc address lines
[10:37] <guillaume> Hi doez somebody knows how do i export evolution accounts to kmails?
[10:39] <noaXess> !info backup
[10:39] <noaXess> !backup
[10:39] <noaXess> !cloning
[10:45] <noaXess> !info mondo
[11:03] <Penguin> hi
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> hi
[12:09] <Firefishe> Hi.  I'm using a logitech headset - usb - and I'm in kde 4.2.00's system settings menu under multimedia.  I'm setting the headset for priority in all areas, and the test works.  Problem is, amarok--my favorite audio program--is not coming through the headset, but through the main speakers.  What might be wrong?
[12:09] <Firefishe> I have amarok's engine set to autodetect
[12:10] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i have kubuntu 9,4 installed and face a lot of problems with my desktop. window management gets crazy, my mouse is almos unusuable. is there anybody that has a clue what the problem might be?
[12:15] <ToreadorVampire> Re-iterating my question of yesterday:  [Hardy Heron] I'm finding that krdc frequently crashes when I'm using it for VNC.  Is there any way I can change the VNC backend that krdc uses, but still continue using krdc?  The other VNC viewers out there are lacking support for a few features that krdc has
[12:17] <peace> Assurbanipal: join #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <Assurbanipal> tnx guys!
[12:24] <thebe> how to look process
[12:24] <thebe> could you give me the command for looking process
[12:27] <Firefishe> why is amarok 1 the default amarok for  4.2.00?
[12:27] <Firefishe> instead of amarok 2?
[12:42] <anna> test
[12:47] <noaXess> if someone if you build a ubuntu server... running 24/7 for a small business: file, dhcp, dns and a virtualbox with a spec winxp install  for a windows application.. what hardware would you choose?
[12:47] <noaXess> c2d based hardware or xeon based?
[12:59] <petsounds> hello folks, can i create .iso file from dvd/cd with k3b ?
[13:03] <noaXess> petsounds: try it :)
[13:05] <Peace-> ....>
[13:06] <Peace-> petsounds: open k3b-------> copy cd --------> create only image
[13:06] <Peace-> wtf complicated xD
[13:07] <noaXess> Peace-: peace :)
[13:07] <Peace-> xD
[13:07] <petsounds> can't detect source medium
[13:07] <noaXess> Peace- and petsounds try http://www.acetoneteam.org/
[13:08] <Peace-> omg acetone
[13:08] <noaXess> AcetoneISO
[13:08] <Peace-> nope
[13:08] <Peace-> i will never use that
[13:08] <noaXess> Peace-: why?
[13:08] <Peace-> konsole
[13:08] <Peace-> :)d
[13:08] <Peace-> and my bash script work better
[13:08] <noaXess> ok.. :) right.. but is a nice tool
[13:09] <Peace-> my kde4 is on 230 mega of ram
[13:09] <Peace-> you wanna give me another stuff no no :)
[13:19] <matisse> hi, is it possible to install kubuntu whhile it is running as live-cd?
[13:20] <geek_> matisse: thats the default way of installing
[13:21] <matisse> so kde is running, what do I start now?
[13:22] <kociak> hey guys i just install kubuntu 9.04 and there are only 3 things I can't yet figure out: 1) is it possible to open links with a middle-click in new tabs in konqueror 2) how do i autologin to kwallet? i hate to type in password just for the second time just after kdm, just to connect to wireless 3) i cant find keyboard layout switch anywhere - and users of my comp are multilingual
[13:22] <Peace-> matisse: of course
[13:22] <kociak> matisse you have an icon on the desktop =)
[13:22] <Peace-> matisse: like ubuntu...
[13:22] <matisse> theres no icon...
[13:23] <Peace-> matisse: where did you get that live...
[13:23] <matisse> (maybe because its 64bit?)
[13:23] <Peace-> no.
[13:23] <Peace-> that live is a sucking iso
[13:23] <kociak> is it possible to open links with a middle-click in new tabs in konqueror?
[13:24] <matisse> dont know, it has been printed and all the stuff
[13:24] <Peace-> every live cd of kubunut is liek ubuntu live so you have to have that icon
[13:24] <Peace-> matisse: download a not bad  live cd
[13:25] <Peace-> kociak: you have to create a shortcut
[13:25] <matisse> no, I just restart and install
[13:25] <PROject-Emerald> Is there a big difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[13:25] <Peace-> yes kubuntu is very sexy
[13:25] <Peace-> xD
[13:26] <Peace-> no pulse stuff for audio
[13:26] <Peace-> in primis
[13:26] <kociak> peace
[13:26] <Peace-> and many other stuff
[13:26] <kociak> what kind of shortcut?
[13:27] <Peace-> kociak: settings---> configure shortcuts
[13:28] <kociak> u mean in konqueror settings?
[13:28] <Peace-> of course
[13:30] <kociak> the only "shortcuts" i can see there are browser address shortcuts .. like gg for google
[13:32] <Peace-> if you don't see that go on systemsettings ---> input actions
[13:32] <Peace-> it's a bit hard but...
[13:37] <kociak> ow do i autologin to kwallet?
[13:38] <kociak> how*
[13:39] <eagles0513875> kociak: depending on the program you are wanting to run lets say kopete
[13:39] <eagles0513875> it will pop up a box that prompts for your pass word kociak
[13:40] <kociak> i know that eagle
[13:40] <kociak> i mean password for whole kwallet session
[13:41] <Dragnslcr> kociak- you can try changing the password for the wallet to be empty
[13:41] <areiv> hi everyone
[13:43] <areiv> I'm having problems while writing in forums. When I try to send the message, most of times it never does it, and I've identified that it's due to sending quotes
[13:44] <areiv> with firefox, opera and konqueror
[13:44] <areiv> do you know about this "bug"?
[13:45] <areiv> a similar problem is with thunderbird mail client
[13:45] <Dragnslcr> Never heard of that bug
[13:46] <areiv> the only way is to remove the quotation part of the message, or even sometimes to write a new one
[13:46] <Dragnslcr> Well, not with the browser, anyway. I've seen plenty of web apps that don't handle user input correctly
[13:47] <Dragnslcr> This happens on more than one site?
[13:47] <areiv> yes
[13:47] <alumnos> hola buenas tardes..
[13:47] <Pici> !es
[13:48] <Dragnslcr> Does it happen on http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[13:48] <alumnos> tks
[13:48] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:52] <areiv2> sorry, i lost power supply
[13:52] <areiv2> can anyone repeat the response sombody told me?
[13:53] <Dragnslcr> areiv2-  Does it happen on http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[13:53] <areiv2> i'll try
[13:54] <areiv2> but, it happens with several sites
[13:54] <areiv2> even with thunderbird
[13:55] <areiv2> so, it has to be from de os i think
[13:55] <areiv2> *the
[14:01] <areiv2> i think this is a never seen problem
[14:01] <areiv2> but it's a little annoying
[14:13] <rmrfslash> No radeonhd 1.2.5 for Kubuntu 9.04 it seems :(
[14:14] <rmrfslash> well... at least not through package management
[15:20] <Anyoseyo> I'm trying to install kubuntu on a external hard drive
[15:21] <Anyoseyo> I'm not sure whether I should use wubi or just unetbootin
[15:22] <geek_> Anyoseyo: i suspect unetbootin
[15:23] <Anyoseyo> thanks
[15:23] <Anyoseyo> also, would it be worth it to wait the extra two days for 9.04?
[15:24] <Anyoseyo> geek_
[15:27] <geek_> Anyoseyo: well, i'm running it now
[15:28] <geek_> so i obviously think not ;p
[15:29] <Anyoseyo> so you recomomend downloading the release client geek_?
[15:29] <Anyoseyo> I'm sort of new to this
[15:29] <Anyoseyo> i installed 6.x some time back but
[15:31] <geek_> Anyoseyo: There's likely to be bugs, and such, but it seems alright to me for the most part, other than a few random freezes (which has stopped) and a rather annoying irc client
[15:31] <geek_> 6.x? thats... old
[15:35] <genii> geek_: Dapper is still supported
[15:36] <geek_> genii: true. dosen't make it any less old ;p
[15:39] <Anyoseyo> and kubuntu has auto update, no?
[15:40] <Anyoseyo> and couldn't you use WINE for mIRC?
[15:41] <geek_> ewww
[15:41] <geek_> why would anyone want Mirc?
[15:41] <Anyoseyo> I like it for the scripts
[15:41] <geek_> you could
[15:41] <Anyoseyo> what do you like?
[15:41]  * geek_ uses konversation or kvirc
[15:41] <Anyoseyo> again i'm mostly a windows person
[15:42] <Anyoseyo> ah
[15:42] <geek_> i use kvirc on windows ;p
[15:42] <devilsadvocate_> quassel ftw
[15:42] <geek_> devilsadvocate_: i don't really like how it handles channels and servers
[15:42] <Anyoseyo> so you recommend getting the iso of hte release client and putting it on my external hard drive?
[15:42]  * geek_ reinstalled konversation
[15:42] <Anyoseyo> with unetbootin
[15:42] <geek_> Anyoseyo: actually that sounds like a good way to try it out
[15:43] <devilsadvocate_> geek_: you gotta love the core-client setup, and the selection of text, and the kde notifications
[15:43] <Anyoseyo> kk :)
[15:43] <Anyoseyo> urgh no torrent >.>
[15:44] <geek_> devilsadvocate_: My main issue is with channel management ;p
[15:44] <geek_> oh
[15:44] <geek_> and it dosen't handle queries very well
[15:45] <blip-> hi all,  I've got kubuntu 8.10, but wifi and suspend-to-disk and ram don't work.... they both worked well with 8.04 out of the box.   What can I expect from 9.04 ?  Is it worth the update ?     thanks
[15:47] <devilsadvocate_> geek_: being able to right click in chat window on xchat et all is nice, yes.
[15:47] <devilsadvocate_> geek_: whats wrong with the channel management? it remembers the channels and such quite nicely
[15:49] <geek_> devilsadvocate_: its rather hard to switch between them, and i prefer bottom tabs
[15:49] <devilsadvocate_> geek_: ah. im used to xchat, so thats not a problem for me :P
[15:52] <geek_> devilsadvocate_: and queries arn't in a buffer of their own, i need to select a person off a channel for a private message
[15:52] <Dragnslcr> I'm getting used to Quassel, but there's a few improvements I'd like to see
[15:53] <Dragnslcr> Being able to move the channel list to tabs at the top would be nice. I don't need all this blank space on the side of the window
[15:54] <genii> Dragnslcr: Put in a feature request :)
[15:54] <devilsadvocate_> geek_: hmm. i was able to query people not on any channels i was on
[15:54] <geek_> Dragnslcr: i shoved it under my nicklist
[15:54] <Dragnslcr> And it'd be nice if there was a "Close" button for queries. "Hide Temporarily" isn't all that intuitive
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, yeah I'm not a big fan of the quassel layout so far , but I understand they're working hard on it
[15:55] <geek_> BluesKaj: it had promise, and good ideas
[15:55] <geek_> but needs work
[15:55] <geek_> and if there was a KDE4 version of konversation, i'd prefer that
[15:55] <geek_> granted
[15:55]  * geek_ is using the kde3 version of conversation :)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> still prefer the old konversation kde3.5 version ...konvi-kde4 isn't ready yet either
[15:56] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I liked Konversation
[15:56] <geek_> that was the default in intrepid
[15:56] <Dragnslcr> I'd still like to see a client that can do the kind of event-based scripting that mIRC has
[15:56] <blip-> konversation is superb
[15:56] <geek_> jaunty uses a single session version of quassel i think
[15:57] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it does
[15:58] <Dragnslcr> The two-part setup is interesting, but I don't think many normal users really need it
[15:58] <geek_> actually
[15:58] <geek_> its pretty much a bounce server ;p
[15:58] <Dragnslcr> Heh, yup
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> It'd be nice for someone that has an old, low-power computer as the IRC connection that they can leave on, and use a normal desktop for the user side, but I wouldn't think many people have or need that
[16:01] <genii> Dragnslcr: Currently I use only the client and connect to a core which is in Finland
[16:01] <geek_> Dragnslcr: actually, i was thinking of running a bouncer on my server just for that reason
[16:02] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, but we're geeks (one of us literally, I see). We hardly count as normal users.
[16:03] <geek_> Dragnslcr: that and my old cheap low power machine is a tank ;p
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[16:04] <geek_> Dragnslcr: PIII 450. passively cooled ;)
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> Nice
[16:07] <walbert> Hey guys, I remember reading about problems with nvidia cards in kde 4.x;  I'm looking at building a computer with a gtx 285, and I was wondering if those problems are in the past now
[16:14] <Dragnslcr> walbert- I have a 7900, and I haven't had any major issues. Can't really speak for anything newer
[16:15] <walbert> hm, thanks
[16:47] <nvivo> Hi. Does anybody know how should I disable the touchpad while typing in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:49] <Pici> nvivo : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:49] <nvivo> ok. thanks
[17:00] <caralu74> hello, Some one know what happen whit the repo of kde 3.5 for ubuntu 8.10 / 9.04?
[17:02] <caralu74> or How install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04?
[17:05] <genii> caralu74: kde3 on versions after 8.04 is not officially supported. However, there is a "remix" version of 9.04 with kde3 in it if you feel like living dangerously. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta
[17:05] <genii> Bah, left
[17:10] <Acedip> hey guys
[17:10] <Acedip> i just installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, but now the icons and the fonts doesnt feel alright
[17:14] <Acedip> the icons appear too big and the font is a bit hazy in xchat
[17:14] <genii> xchat is a GTK app
[17:15] <Acedip> genii, so ?
[17:15] <genii> Acedip: kde styles/themes etc work on QT apps, which is what kde uses.
[17:16] <jason_froebe> Acedip - have you tried Konversation?
[17:16] <Acedip> genii, ohh..right..that explains it, but what about other icons
[17:16] <Acedip> jason_froebe, yes,
[17:17] <Acedip> genii, i mean there are things which surely doesnt feel alright
[17:18] <genii> There are a couple packages which try to enforce kde styles onto your gtk apps. gtk-qt-engine-kde4 and kde4-style-qtcurve    for instance
[17:18] <Acedip> can issues arise while using kde in ubuntu and not kubuntu
[17:20] <genii> Acedip: Probably.
[17:24] <quassel208> can I run Joomla on Linux ?
[17:26] <theuser1> on what protocol is jrdesktop used. vnc or rdp?
[17:27] <genii> quassel208: Of course
[17:27] <quassel208> why isntit in kubuntu packaged ?
[17:29] <genii> quassel208: Likely no one has packaged it yet.
[17:31] <genii> quassel208: There seems something about joomla on 8.10 here: http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=379418&start=0
[17:31] <quassel208> They use it on the learn / work job i going get
[17:31] <quassel208> But they use Windows
[17:32] <genii> quassel208: Since Joomla is open source you can use it on onay platform
[17:32] <genii> *any
[17:32] <quassel208> its a gui program isnt it ?
[17:36] <theuser1> can anyone recomend a remote desktop app that suports file transferes.  i have 2 pcs. one windows xp and on kubuntu. what to control each other oftenly. so need client and server app on both and ready all times for a connection. need rdp one. its faster?
[17:36] <alonea> I am trying to figure out how to mount my built in sd card reader. When I put in a card, dmesg reports:[11277.215604] mmc0: new SDHC card at address b368; [11277.249525] mmcblk0: mmc0:b368 SD    7830016KiB; [11277.249976]  mmcblk0: p1
[17:37] <genii> quassel208: Joomla is web based. So if you have a web browser, thats what it uses for it's gui
[17:38] <alonea> wait, I am totally stupid. it IS mounted.
[17:38] <alonea> I have never had it automount before....niiiiiiffty!
[17:38] <quassel208> genii so I gues it uses firefox ?
[17:38]  * genii handa s alonea a coffee
[17:38] <genii> quassel208: Or any web browser, yes
[17:39] <quassel208> I gues it will spit on konqueror
[17:40] <Dragnslcr> theuser1- don't know if there are any RDP servers or clients for Linux that support file transfers. Probably should use something like FTP or SCP for the file transfers instead
[17:40] <genii> quassel208: If all your questions will be regarding Joomla, why not go ask them in the channel #joomla  about it?
[17:41] <quassel208> Okay I will, but I gues i will let them teach me
[17:42] <petsounds> hello, can i get conflict if i installed Iced tea and then i install JRE?
[17:44] <alonea> genii: mmmmm...thanks!
[17:44] <genii> petsounds: Usually it will want to use whichever was last installed. You can specify which to use with the update-java-alternatives
[17:44] <genii> alonea:  :)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !wget | theuser1
[17:47] <petsounds> ok thanks genii, i am about to install vuze, cause in my experience some private tracker had block ktorrent
[17:47] <BluesKaj> hmm
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !info wget
[17:52] <zoiss> hi. does anyone know how to activate digital sound out with oss?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> !oss
[17:54] <BluesKaj> !info OSS
[17:54] <zoiss> :]
[17:54] <zoiss> info bot
[18:00] <victim> how can I compare all the files in 2 folders, both folders contain the same files with the same names but one or 2 might be different?
[18:00] <victim> thanks
[18:04] <matt_> hey all
[18:05] <matt_> you guys are talkative!
[18:10] <Dragnslcr> victim- probably with a script of some kind
[18:16] <theuser1>  which is faster and better. rdp vnc or rmi ?
[18:24] <theuser1>  which is faster and better. rdp vnc or rmi ? Remote Method Invocation?
[18:27] <warlock2> uSbuntu works well with laptop
[18:27] <warlock2> in usb 4g
[18:28] <warlock2> I had error
[18:28] <lars> join #foswiki
[18:29] <warlock2> I said to start
[18:29] <warlock2> I doesn't support dop or fua
[18:30] <warlock2> I know it
[18:31] <warlock2> dpo or fua doesn't compatibily with laptop
[18:31] <warlock2> ?
[18:34] <salla_> ?
[18:35] <salla_> ?
[18:40] <xp-killer> how to format to fat 32 my external sata hdd?
[18:40] <ango_> fat32 will only format 30 gb at once
[18:41] <xp-killer> ango_: but my ide i format the hold 160 gig to fat 32
[18:41] <ango_> anything over that is not gonna happen without a certain utility that i do not know of
[18:41] <Dragnslcr> !fat32
[18:42] <Dragnslcr> Hm, that wasn't very helpful
[18:42] <xp-killer> what wasnt?
[18:42] <Dragnslcr> If you have the fat32 driver, I would guess that gparted can format a disk for it
[18:42] <genii> mkfs.vfat /dev/bleh
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> That works too
[18:43] <xp-killer> :s
[18:43] <ango_> i partitioned mine to ntfs then installed NTFS-3g
[18:43] <ango_> works fine for me
[18:44] <ango_> and i also have some windows computers i run so it works out better that way
[18:44] <genii> I just use ext2/3 and from when I need it in Win, the ext driver from fs-driver.org
[18:46] <xp-killer> i dont want ntfs  i want fat 32
[18:47] <xp-killer> i'll just go on xp and use partition magic to see if i can format the hold thing in fat32
[18:47] <ango_> well youre on your own with it then
[18:49] <dwidmann> fat32 ... ewwwww
[18:49] <xp-killer> ?
[18:50] <xp-killer> u dotn like fat32? dwidmann
[18:51] <dwidmann> xp-killer: right.
[18:51] <AfrOTRokHE> xp-killer: why you don't use ntfs? is already supported
[18:51] <xp-killer> y not?
[18:52] <xp-killer> cause i use my hdd not only on pc but other stuff like my ps3
[18:52] <xp-killer> ps3 dont see my ntfs partition
[18:52] <AfrOTRokHE> =O
[18:52] <dwidmann> xp-killer: fat32 is more prone to things like corruption ... better keep backups
[18:53] <AfrOTRokHE> ok..
[18:53] <xp-killer> dwidmann: well i have like 8 hdd and all are fat32 and for the moment only 1 die cause of me
[18:54] <xp-killer> dwidmann: 160g hitachi it's been 4years i have now and it still working
[18:55] <dwidmann> xp-killer: the hard drives potential to die has nothing to do with what I'm talking about really. I'm talking about corruption of the file system due to other things (at least partly its lack of a journalling mechanism)
[18:55] <dwidmann> xp-killer: With regards to serving to the ps3 ... you could do that with something like mediatomb, could you not?
[18:57] <skinnyguy> fdisk /dev/sda or whatever it is and create your partitions
[18:57] <xp-killer> dwidmann: yes i can but what now if my pc doesnt work?
[18:57] <skinnyguy> there is mkfs.msdos
[18:57] <xp-killer> dwidmann: plus it's to slow
[18:57] <skinnyguy> and mkfs.vfat
[18:58] <skinnyguy> that should format it
[18:58] <dwidmann> xp-killer: why wouldn't your pc work? And what's too slow?
[18:58] <xp-killer> skinnyguy: im not to good with commands fo i rather the xp way
[18:59] <xp-killer> skinnyguy: pc doesnt last foreever, plus what now if i dont have a router?
[19:01] <skinnyguy>  CompuApps SwissKnife will do it in winblow
[19:02] <xp-killer> skinnyguy: i give up on swisskniff it kill my hdd once so i rather partition magic it have more options
[19:02] <kennethaar> Hi. My notes plasmoid disapeared. Where can I find the text I had written on it?
[19:03] <skinnyguy> ok im done ive give you three option and youve shot down all three hard to help ome thats that picky
[19:03] <dwidmann> xp-killer: routers are awesome things to have, you should :D
[19:04] <xp-killer> dwidmann: it was just an example what happens to thoses that dont have?
[19:06] <xp-killer> skinnyguy: why 2.5 external hdd doest work on pc but on laptops?it doest have a cord to plug in the power just and usb cord to power the hdd
[19:07] <xp-killer> skinnyguy: partition magic fail to format my sata hdd.it shows it as not a ntfs but a BAD hdd in yellow :s
[19:07] <dwidmann> xp-killer: try doing it in gparted
[19:08] <dontron> hi ich hba bi kubuntu meine effekte aktiviert jetzt einen schwarzen screen :O
[19:08] <BluesKaj> !partition magic
[19:08] <Pici> !de | dontron
[19:08] <BluesKaj> !partitionmagic
[19:08] <AfrOTRokHE> xp-killer: you need to backup your info, then try to recover with some tool and then try to make any change in your HD
[19:08] <xp-killer> dwidmann: i dont know gparted.is it by dos?
[19:09] <AfrOTRokHE> xp-killer: apt-get install gparted or from konsole type "sudo gparted"
[19:09] <dwidmann> !gparted
[19:09] <BluesKaj> partitionmagic is a klunky and unstable app and will wreck your partitions ...don't use it
[19:10] <xp-killer> BluesKaj: i tink it's to late :( im not seing my sata hdd anymore
[19:11] <xp-killer> ive should of both a ide hdd
[19:11] <BluesKaj> xp-killer , burn a copy of the GParted live cd , it might help you rescue ..not guaranteed but worth a try
[19:11] <AfrOTRokHE> xp-killer: reboot
[19:11] <xp-killer> sata is better than ide right?
[19:11] <dwidmann> !sudo | AfrOTRokHE
[19:12] <AfrOTRokHE> dwidmann: o.0?
[19:12] <AfrOTRokHE> wow! i don't know about kdesudo
[19:12] <dwidmann> AfrOTRokHE: you do now :)
[19:14] <xp-killer> OMG partition magic turn my 320g hdd to a 7mb
[19:14] <dwidmann> AfrOTRokHE: gksudo/kdesudo for graphical apps, because under admittedly not too common circumstances, with sudo some apps won't work at all, or worse, will end up changing the ownership of certain files that will cause you major trouble
[19:15] <kirilos> Hello,i am having some trouble setting up my monitor's hertz with kubuntu 9.04 anyone willing to help me out?
[19:17] <dwidmann> kirilos: should be easy if you already know what they are
[19:18] <brian_> Hello
[19:18] <genii> !info kxgenerator
[19:18] <kirilos> i go to the nvidia setting,i change the Hertz and then when i logout/restart hertz go back to 50 and the screen is like well,shit :P
[19:18] <dwidmann> oooh, I've not heard of that one genii
[19:19] <genii> dwidmann: It's pretty good. Beats manually messing with xorg.conf, etc etc
[19:19] <dwidmann> genii: if that's the case, it should probably weasel its way into Kubuntu default, later or sooner
[19:20] <brian_> Can anyone suggest a IM client better then Pidgin or Kopete? Kopete has issues with staying connected and Pidgin has issues with connecting to Yahoo!.
[19:21] <dwidmann> brian_: think you'll be hard pressed finding better IMs than those
[19:22] <brian_> Yikes. Hmm... wonder why Pidgin isn't connecting then. Back to the forums I go!
[19:23] <brian_> Thank you Dwidmann
[19:23] <kennethaar> Does no one know where the notes plasmoid stores it's content?
[19:23] <kennethaar> Hi. My notes plasmoid disapeared. Where can I find the text I had written on it?
[19:24] <brian_> When I put the notes back on the desktop, it starts fresh. I don't think they are saved if you closed it.
[19:24] <kennethaar> brian: crap
[19:25] <brian_> However, nothing beats a pen and paper next to the computer ;)
[19:28] <kennethaar> obrian_: Dolphin beats it for me? ;-) Hierarcaly store all your notes, and add tags and links to them... Although I have been using notes to capture ideas when I dont have time to make the necsessary folders. So no I lost all my quick notes for yesterday(ofcorse they were many)
[19:28] <kennethaar> no=now
[19:31] <dwidmann> kennethaar: something like basket, perhaps?
[19:31] <kennethaar> crap back to using gtk and tomboy for note taking. Very annoying. THink I will have to submitt a bugreport about makeing it remember the different notes
[19:31] <dwidmann> !info basket
[19:32] <lorecaster> hey all, i just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04, and now my sound isnt' regocnized... none of my players have movable volume contorls
[19:32] <kennethaar> Basket is cluttered and hard to use drag and drop is very unprecise. But I love the concept. If only the implementation had been better.
[19:32] <jony> algun español?
[19:32] <Pici> !es | jony
[19:37] <kennethaar> hm knotes seems to fit the bill to.
[19:37] <kennethaar> so now I am happy again
[19:38] <kennethaar> Although it's a shame about the notes I lost.
[19:38] <lorecaster> Kennithaar; what kind of notes do they take? i've never used the software
[19:39] <kennethaar> lorecaster: I don't understand your question.
[19:40] <lorecaster> i'm a writer and i work in the engineering field... i use post-it notes for my work out of my home-office, and my spouce hates it :P i was curious about that software, is all, and how it differs from a word processor like writer
[19:41] <lorecaster> and for anyone else who's interested... i'd love to figure out why i don't have sound any longer for my system, after i upgraded to 9.04
[19:43] <kennethaar> "Oh working-sound-as-we-had-pre-pulse-audio where art thou...?"
 :D
[19:47] <Bman__> its cause i got two HDD
[19:47] <Bman__> local disk C:, and NOSAVE F:
[19:47]  * genii slides lorecaster a coffee
[19:47] <Bman__> I want kubuntu to install on F: , but when i got to install you don't see C: or F: in linux, only bunch of numbers...
[19:48] <lorecaster> this girl deserves a hug for all she did for me last week :D i got autocad installed, Genii, but i had to go with a VirtualBox install. got it anyway!
[19:48] <Bman__> So i'm wondering how to make sure it will install on the F: drive
[19:48] <Bman__> Also i need to check if the F: drive is an HDD, or a partition of the C: disk..
[19:49] <kirilos> i need some help with my nvidia drivers and kubuntu 9.04 i386,anyone willing to help me?
[19:49] <genii> Bman__: The installer will not see them as C: D: E:     etc etc but rather as sda sdb sdc and so on
[19:49] <lorecaster> Krilios; i've had some fun with those :D maybe we had the same problem
[19:50] <Bman__> Yes, so how do i know which is which.. but first i have to check if F: is a real HDD or a partition.. (in win xp)
[19:51] <genii> Bman__: Partitions will be like sda1 sda2  sdb1 sdb2     and so on like this.
[19:51] <genii> Bman__: The partitoner will inform you what kind of partitions they are, also what filesystem is on them already, if any
[19:52] <Bman__> so, if they are 2 differents HDD i will see sda and sdb, if F: is a partition of C i'll see sda1 (as C:) and sda2 (as F:) sry for the dump questions...
[19:52] <genii> Bman__: You get the idea now, yes
[19:53] <Bman__> Ok thx :)
[19:53] <vnwarrior> how do I set the background color from white to black in quassel ?
[19:53] <genii> Bman__: Welcome. If you have any issues during install, just visit here
[19:53] <Bman__> Do i need to make a backup if it's sda2 or sdb ? there's nothing on the F: drive important, only on the C: drive
[19:53] <Bman__> thanks :)
[19:54] <genii> vnwarrior: Settings...Configure Quassel...Appearance...Color Settings....
[19:55] <vnwarrior> genii: I cant find the one for background... it is still maintaining at white
[19:55] <genii> Bman__: You could back up whatever you like first. this is actually not bad practice to have anyways.
[19:56] <genii> vnwarrior: Maybe ask in #quassel, some of the devs hang out there
[19:56] <vnwarrior> ok
[19:56] <Bman__> But do I have to if i'm not going to install on the C: drive? cause this is really an old pc, running like shit on xp, so slow.. It will take hours with a backup program
[19:57] <genii> Bman__: So long as you have run chkdsk on the Windows formatted drives and they are marked clean, you should be able to resize them however you like from in the partitioner if you want to.
[19:58] <Bman__> eerrr?
[19:58] <Dragnslcr> vnwarrior- from what I can tell, Quassel follows your KDE color scheme
[19:58] <Bman__> There's 8.36 gig free on F: drive, so no need to resize it
[19:58] <Bman__> But I really have no idea on what chkdsk is.. First time i'm going to install this so
[20:00] <genii> Bman__: chkdsk scans hd for bad sectors, crosslinked files, etc etc
[20:00] <vnwarrior> Dragnslcr: umm.. what does that mean - where in KDE can I change colors?
[20:01] <Bman__> How do i do that?
[20:03] <Dragnslcr> vnwarrior- System Settings -> Appearance
[20:04] <Bman__> Ah found it in execute..
[20:04] <Dragnslcr> vnwarrior- the colors you set there should affect all KDE4 programs (Dolphin, Kopete, etc.)
[20:04] <B-Minus> hello
[20:04] <B-Minus> is it possible to get the windows fonts on kubuntu i dont like this font
[20:05] <vnwarrior> Dragnslcr: hmm.. not good. thanks
[20:05] <vnwarrior> B-Minus: try the droid fonts (check wikipedia link)
[20:05] <vnwarrior> B-Minus: copy them to a ~/.fonts directory and run fc-cache -f -v
[20:06] <B-Minus> tnx
[20:06] <kevku> aptitude search mscorefronts?
[20:08] <trappist> korganizer is supposed to report webcal:// calendar urls, but I don't see how to set one up.  any hints?
[20:08] <Bman__> I ran chkdsk, no problems found..
[20:08] <duraid> I have problems installing flash
[20:08] <Bman__> But is there a chance windows got damaged if I install on F (where there's no windows)
[20:10] <pteague> apparently i have a few things in my startup list & i'm not quite sure how to get rid of them...  & so when i log out without having closed those apps when i log back in i end up getting 2 of them (the 1 saved in the session & the other in the startup list)... without closing both of those windows if i log out & then back in again i end up with 3 of them :(
[20:11] <Bman__> gennii  ?
[20:12] <B-Minus> does there excist an applet or widget in kde that i have a command-run bar inside my taskbar ?
[20:12] <B-Minus> so i can just type in the apps i want to run
[20:16] <SandGorgon> B-Minus: just type alt-f2
[20:17] <B-Minus> nice
[20:18] <genii> Bman__: I'm still here :) Work required me for a while
[20:18] <Bman__> Ah no prob, take your time, just wanted to make sure :p
[20:19] <Bman__> look @ 21:08:32 and 21:09:04  plz ;)
[20:19] <genii> Bman__: The only usual "gotchya" to watch out for... is to make sure Grub installs to master boot record of first drive. Some people put it on a subpartition by mistake
[20:20] <Bman__> What's grub?
[20:20] <genii> Bman__: Grub is the "GRand Unified Bootloader"
[20:20] <Bman__> So make sure I install on F: (sda2 or sdb..)
[20:20] <Bman__> Genii, by any chance do you speak dutch or french ^^^
[20:21] <genii> Bman__: No, sda2 is a SUB partition. You want it on sda    for example
[20:21] <yaa__> !lamo|Bman
[20:21] <Bman__> yeah lamo is the good word :)
[20:21] <yaa__> )
[20:21] <Bman__> so if the F drive is a subpartition, i'm fucked
[20:21] <Bman__> caus only got 2gig left on C drive
[20:22] <genii> Bman__: No, I speak primarily English. (undertand some French, some German otherwise, but not much)
[20:22] <Pici> Bman__: Please try to control your language in this channel.
[20:22] <Bman__> Sorry..
[20:22] <Bman__> so if the F drive is a subpartition, I'm in trouble...
[20:22] <genii> yaa__: Attacking new users is also frowned upon
[20:22] <ronin--> does anybody know how to install multiple packages on kubuntu using a file with the package names
[20:23] <Bman__> That's no problem, really
[20:23] <yaa__> genii^ i do already know what is prison  %)
[20:24] <Bman__> but if F: is sdb, no worries about damaging Windows or something like that
[20:25] <genii> Bman__: For install, you need something like at least about 2.5-3Gb partition, doesn't matter where or what drive, really. The important thing is Grub needs to know how to load it
[20:25] <genii> ronin--: Try the set-selections way
[20:26] <pteague> B-Minus: if you want something in the panel there is also the run command plasmoid, but i've been having issues with it in jaunty
[20:26] <matisse> is it a good idea to start now with working with 9.04 RC ?
[20:26] <genii> ronin--: 3rd post here for instance shows usage: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-169062.html
[20:27] <ronin--> ok thanks genii I will read the man page about this
[20:27] <matisse> or will there be to many bugs, so it can't be real working
[20:27] <genii> ronin--: It will be in the dpkg manpage
[20:28] <Bman__> If i got sda1 and sda2, how do I put them back together so i cant install it on sda ?
[20:28] <ronin--> I want to install the same packeges as one old system and I thought I could get them with dpkg --get-selections
[20:28] <ronin--> but I thought I have to use apt-get install to install them from the repositories
[20:28] <JB_> how do you install flashplayer
[20:29] <JB_> it keeps saying error
[20:29] <matisse> Will 9.04 be released in 2 days or does it probably take longer?
[20:29] <Pici> matisse: It will be released sometime on the 23rd
[20:29] <Pici> !party
[20:30] <Bman__> ?
[20:30] <matisse> Pici, so nothing doubt?
[20:30] <JB_> 2 days I already have the 9.04 beta
[20:30] <Bman__> Well, gonna check if I got 2 HDD or a partition.. I'll report here later
[20:30] <Pici> matisse: none
[20:30] <Bman__> thx for the help genii!
[20:30] <matisse> JB_, and? any big problems?
[20:30] <JB_> please help me with the flash player
[20:30] <genii> Bman__: If you come across some problem or question, just return here again for assistance
[20:31] <Pici> !jaunty
[20:31] <Bman__> Thanks man
[20:31] <Bman__> See u
[20:31] <JB_> not really its excellent
[20:31] <ronin--> thanks genii
[20:32] <genii> ronin--: You're welcome
[20:32] <ronin--> :)
[20:33] <matisse> JB_, concerning the flash player: you should copy&paste the error message
[20:34] <yaa__> do not be gloomy
[20:34] <yaa__> do not be gloomy
[20:34] <yaa__> do not be gloomy
[20:34] <Pici> yaa__: stop
[20:35] <yaa__> smile
[20:36] <JB_> mitsse_, okay in a sec
[20:37] <matisse> JB_, if its a big text, better use pastebin
[20:40] <JB_> matisse_, I tried first ten timenks, for some reason it didnt want to the to install now and it did tha
[20:40] <JB_> it installed this time
[20:40] <JB_> thanks anyway
[20:45] <bercik> Hello!
[20:46] <EagleScreen> hi
[20:46] <bercik> Once Jaunty is released, will i have to upgrade RC to Retail?
[20:46] <EagleScreen> you will have to do a regular update
[20:46] <EagleScreen> update notifier will do the job
[20:47] <bercik> Thank You :)
[20:47] <bercik> And when using fglrx on Jaunty will be availble? Once new fglrx released?
[20:49] <Pici> !jaunty
[20:49] <EagleScreen> bercik: it won't be in the official repositories, but you will can download it from backports repositories, ppa repositories, or from ATI website
[20:49] <matisse> JB_, sounds good :)
[20:50] <bercik> So using fglrx with Xorg 1.6 is avaible?
[20:50] <JB_> see you later
[20:50] <matisse> cu
[21:13] <devilsadvocate> hi. does anyone know how/if i can get konqueror to use webkit instead of khtml?
[21:13] <rmrfslash> I thought Jaunty was April 28th.... cool.
[21:14] <rmrfslash> It's in 2 days!
[21:22] <Bman__> Hi
[21:23]  * genii makes more coffee
[21:23] <Bman__> genii?
[21:23] <genii> Bman__: Yup I'm around. (for another 20-30 minutes from work, anyhow)
[21:23] <Bman__> So i went to installation, and then I came on step 4 i think)
[21:23] <Bman__> 'preaparation de l'espace disque'
[21:23] <Bman__> so preparation of disk space
[21:23] <Bman__> I had 3 choices
[21:24] <genii> That is the partitioner, yes
[21:24] <Bman__> Assisted: use a full disk
[21:24] <Bman__> SCSI1(0,0,0) (sda) - 20,0 GB ATA ..
[21:24] <Bman__> Assisted: largest disk part
[21:24] <Bman__> Manual
[21:24] <Bman__> So now i know the F drive is in fact a partition of local disk C:
[21:25] <Bman__> But i didn't continue as i didn't know for sure what to do
[21:28] <genii> Bman__: Apologies on lag, work required me.
[21:29] <genii> Bman__: Your Windows C: and F: drives together add up to the 20Gb ?
[21:31] <Whipper_> seems like someone is running win-95 :)
[21:31] <genii> Whipper_: Yes it's odd how it inserts the second drive between the primary drive's first and second partition on that one
[21:33] <Whipper_> well.. win.. what can u excpect..
[21:33] <Whipper_> same as lottery
[21:35] <genii> Bman__: the "Use largest free space" option normally will look at the partitions and then resize the one with enough room on it to make a partition to put linux on
[21:35] <Bman__> Yes 20 together
[21:35] <Bman__> ok
[21:36] <Bman__> But it's best if ik make a back-up before trying that?
[21:36] <genii> Bman__: Backups of anything are always good :)
[21:36] <Bman__> Can you advice some good prog, cause i'm using a pentium 730 mhz with 256mb ram
[21:37] <Bman__> i know they're always good :p
[21:37] <Bman__> but are they necessary?
[21:37] <Bman__> but yes i'll make one, just need a prog to do so
[21:37] <Whipper_> Bman__: debian
[21:37] <genii> Bman__: If you have already done the windows chkdsk or scandisk, then the partitioner can resize the Windows partition safely
[21:38] <Bman__> Is it normal when i click execute with chkdsk, it runs
[21:38] <Bman__> when it's finished it closes automatically (the dos window)
[21:38] <genii> Bman__: Yes, thats normal
[21:38] <fab> hi
[21:39] <fab> how can  upgrade to 9.04 please ?
[21:39] <clam> im trying to install kubuntu 8.04.2 on a dell dimension 2400.  whenever i try to log in i get a black screen then logs me out
[21:39] <clam> i have a feeling it is a video driver issue
[21:39] <genii> Bman__: If you have anough free room someplace to put a file which is the size of a partition you want to backup, there is a fast way in linux with the "dd" command
[21:39] <clam> any help would be nice
[21:39] <fab> is there something to change in the source.list ?
[21:39] <genii> Well, short way... not neccesarily fast, lets say
[21:40] <Whipper_> clam: disable x, and use terminal :)
[21:40] <clam> i can get to a terminal
[21:40] <Whipper_> clam: at the boot-up?
[21:40] <clam> i need the video functioning though.  that would be nice -_-
[21:40] <clam> after it boots up i get the log in screen
[21:40] <Bman__> No, don't have any extern HDD or something like that, and also got no idea what you mean by 'dd' command
[21:40] <genii> Whipper_: Seeing as we're in #kubuntu most people will of course be wanting to use their KDE  ... :)
[21:40] <clam> and when i try to log in, thats when it kicks me off and back to the log in screen
[21:41] <Bman__> Well i ran chkdsk and chkdsk F:
[21:41] <Bman__> both, no problem
[21:41] <clam> i have sinking feeling its video related.  after all its  a POS dell
[21:41] <Bman__> So i guess it will be safe without backup, but still gonna use debian
[21:41] <Whipper_> genii: i realize that, but if one has p730MHz, with 20GB, and Win at the same time, that might be a little..
[21:42] <clam> when i look at the xorg.conf it doesnt state intel or i810 driver for video
[21:42] <clam> and most tutorials online say to switch that
[21:43] <genii> xorg.conf is severely deprecated these days
[21:43] <clam> and i tried using the dpkg command to reconfigure the xorg.conf file, but it skips the part of the video driver.  its like what the heck?
[21:44] <clam> its like its not launching ANY driver for video at all, and thats why it crashes
[21:44] <genii> clam: Just backup your xorg.conf and then manually tell it in there to use i810 driver then
[21:44] <clam> dont know the syntax for that in xorg...help please ^_^
[21:44] <Bman__> Well i read 730mhz and 256 ram were enough to run it so...
[21:45] <genii> Bman__: Debian is a linux distribution which Ubuntu/Kubuntu and some other distributions are derivatives of, and not the name of a backup application of some sort
[21:45] <Whipper_> Bman__: yes, its enough.. just..
[21:45] <Bman__> Haha :D
[21:45] <Bman__> So, lite version of kubuntu?
[21:46] <Whipper_> lighter?
[21:46] <genii> Bman__: No, not really. More like the grand-daddy of
[21:46] <Whipper_> lxde :)
[21:46] <Bman__> Ah. Then i don't understand why you told me debian if it's not 'liter' for my crappy pc ?
[21:47] <Whipper_> Bman__: debian can be as light as u like
[21:47] <genii> Bman__: If you need a distribution which uses less system resources you may want to look into Xubuntu
[21:47] <Bman__> Already heard about that
[21:47] <Whipper_> or xubuntu
[21:47] <Whipper_> :)
[21:47] <Bman__> And true, the install did go little slow.
[21:47] <Bman__> But it will go better once it's installed i presume
[21:48] <Bman__> Only need to go on internet and irc in fact..
[21:48] <olorin12> is anyone else having problems updating sources in synaptic/adept?
[21:48] <Bman__> Do you know progs to backup my files?
[21:49] <Bman__> I know some, but progs I'm using with my core2duo with 4gb ram, so not going to try these on this pc :)
[21:49] <Whipper_> olorin12: adept..yes, synaptic no..
[21:50] <clam> tried setting video "section" to "Intel Corporation 810i Integerated Graphics Controller"
[21:50] <clam> didnt work
[21:50] <clam> still crashes
[21:50] <Whipper_> but that just 'cos this so fres install..
[21:51] <genii> clam: Thats not the part you need to modify.
[21:51] <clam> then please help me figure it out
[21:51] <clam> ^_^
[21:51] <olorin12> I haven't logged into linux in a while... do I need to update sources list?
[21:52] <clam> not unless they dont work olorin12.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> olorin12 , just sudo apt-get update
[21:53] <olorin12> failed to fetch
[21:53] <genii> clam: Where it had something like: Identifier      "Configured Video Device"           under that line put: Driver  "i810"
[21:54] <clam> k.  i will give it a shot
[21:54] <Whipper_> olorin12: dont fix it, if its not broken
[21:54] <genii> Bman__: You want to back up your files... where are you going to back them up to?
[21:54] <BluesKaj> olorin12 , which release ?
[21:55] <olorin12> 9.10
[21:55] <olorin12> oops 8.10
[21:55] <olorin12> I'm from the future...
[21:55] <Bman__> backup is as big as the place they take on my hdd?
[21:55] <clam> genii which section?  "device" or "screen"???
[21:55] <Bman__> then going to find an extern HDD
[21:56] <genii> clam: Device
[21:56] <Bman__> well it depends of their  size
[21:57] <Bman__> I really have no idea at how big this is, if it's not too big i can upload them to RS or something
[21:57] <Bman__> If i need them i can ask a friend to dl and put on a HDD
[21:57] <clam> now the computer is going bonkers...
[21:57] <clam> -_-
[21:58] <genii> clam: Maybe you mistakenly thought i810 was the driver you required
[21:58] <clam> im thinking i might just set it to "Intel"
[21:58] <clam> i was told the Intel driver should work fine
[21:58] <genii> clam:  "vesa" is usually good for failsafe
[21:59] <genii> clam:  don't uppercase intel incidentally
[21:59] <olorin12> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release.gpg  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) -----  does this for a bunch of the repositories
[22:00] <joshjtl> is there anyway to turn down volume of stuff like firefox without decreasing the volume of say amarok?
[22:01] <clam> argh now you tell me lol
[22:05] <clam> well genii vesa works
[22:05] <clam> but at a crappy resolution >_<
[22:05] <Bman__> ?
[22:06] <genii> clam: vesa is the usual fallback driver
[22:06] <clam> great
[22:06] <clam> well intel didnt work
[22:06] <clam> and neither did i810
[22:06] <genii> clam: What reports:   lspci | grep VGA                ?
[22:08] <genii> I require to leave work now so will appear /away until I reconnect from home. (about 30-45 minutes)
[22:08] <clam> i shall check real quick genii
[22:08] <clam> ok genii
[22:08] <clam> farewell
[22:13] <clam> i figured it out
[22:14] <clam> i hate you guys
[22:14] <clam> >_<
[22:16] <clam> *sigh* guess not
[22:16] <clam> this would never happen on windowz
[22:16] <clam> >_<
[22:40] <Anyoseyo> err
[22:40] <Anyoseyo> will the release client update automatically in two days? :P'
[22:50] <Anyoseyo> will the release client update automatically in two days? :P'
[22:50] <Guest60709> Hey i'm trying to run qt-sdk-linux-x86_64-opensource-2009.01.bin that i've downloaded from the qt website...how do I do so?
[22:54] <Szadek> hello everybody , i really need help ... i upgraded to jaunty rc and sound dont work anymore =/
[22:55] <octavianus> hi
[22:55] <clam> yikes sorry cant help ya
[22:55] <octavianus> one question please
[22:55] <clam> im not the smartest with linux but i will help if i can
[22:55] <octavianus> Is kubuntu 8.04 kde 3.5 LTS? or it's supported till october 2009?>
[22:56] <octavianus> ubuntu 8.04 it's supported till 2011
[22:56] <JontheEchidna> It's supported until October
[22:56] <octavianus> godf damn it
[22:56] <octavianus> I'm happy with my kde 3.5
[22:56] <octavianus> so i wanted to know how long till format sda :)
[22:57] <octavianus> so I guess that kubuntu 9.10 will be LTS ?
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> the one after that, I believe
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> whenever the next ubuntu LTS
[22:57] <octavianus> 9.10 not 9.04
[22:58] <octavianus> 9.10 the next lts
[22:58] <octavianus> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Releases
[22:58] <octavianus> Ubuntu 9.10
[22:58] <octavianus>
[22:58] <octavianus> Karmic Koala
[22:58] <octavianus>
[22:58] <octavianus> Planned for October 2009
[22:58] <octavianus>
[22:58] <octavianus> April 2011
[22:58] <octavianus> I hope that kubuntu 9.10 will be the same thing as ubuntu 9.10
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> Both Ubuntu and Kubuntu 9.10 will be normal releases
[22:59] <rmrfslash> If I install a deb (say a video driver), will that driver be reinstalled upon a kernel upgrade?
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> with normal 18 month support periods
[22:59] <rmrfslash> or will I have to run the deb again?
[23:01] <Dragnslcr> rmrfslash- the driver would still be installed. Whether or not it works with the new kernel is another question
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> rmrfslash: If you installed it from the normal repositories it should be updated when an update comes out.  if you downloaded it frome some third-party source and installed it, then you'll probably have to update it.
[23:02] <rmrfslash> So installing something through a deb allows it to be managed automatically?
[23:02] <jhutchins_wk> As I understand it, the nvidia and ATI stuff has to be updated with each kernel.
[23:02] <rmrfslash> Well.... I had to install it from a ppa
[23:02] <Dragnslcr> rmrfslash- nope
[23:02] <rmrfslash> ok, so I need to then reinstall it.
[23:02] <jhutchins_wk> rmrfslash: No, installing it from the package management system means it can be automatically updated.
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> rmrfslash- only packages installed from a repository will be updated when a new version is available
[23:03] <rmrfslash> I see.
[23:03] <rmrfslash> I won't see my driver until probably 9.10
[23:03] <rmrfslash> Well, not *my* driver.... but the driver I want
[23:34] <clam> yeah i figured out my problem
[23:34] <clam> remember kids
[23:34] <clam> you may have the right resolution set in xorg for you video drivers.  but be sure to also check what your monitor's res is set to as well
[23:36] <zigovr> hi all, I'm trying to mount a udf filesystem, but all files appear to the user with weird permissions (????????? is shown by ls -lah)
[23:36] <zigovr> I tried to set gid and uid options to the user, and umask to 000, but it doesn't change a thing
[23:36] <zigovr> root see correct permissions, but the user still can't see anything , and as a result cannot enter directories
[23:39] <ronin--> zigovr: did you try to change the owner with chown
[23:39] <zigovr> ronin--: the owner of what ?
[23:40] <zigovr> it's a read only filesystem (used typically for dvd) so I can't do that in fact ronin--
[23:40] <ronin--> zigovr: of the directory where you have mounter your files
[23:40] <zigovr> that's why there are option at mount time to set permissions
[23:40] <ronin--> zigovr: i see
[23:41] <ronin--> zigovr: yes try then to moutn as rw
[23:42] <zigovr> as rw ? but it's a dvdrom ronin--
[23:43] <ronin--> zigovr: so you mount your /dev/cdrw or dvd..
[23:53] <rizvan> Does anyone know why speedcrunch window does not get "focus" on launch?


[07:08] <oiboy> anyone here
[14:59] <vi390> hi there. I have activated XDMCP by Accident, and want to deactivate it by Commandline, any ideas
[14:59] <vi390> Or how can I just Login localy , to change the Option again
[15:00] <vi390> I can not login Local until this XDMCP is activated. It simply not works with ubuntu.local
[15:00] <vi390> its just displaying the Local System to login, but clicking on it would not work
[15:01] <vi390> Is there maybe a keycombination to force Local Login or maybe another backdoor to oogin local
[15:01] <vi390> I really need help with that
[20:25] <achandrashekar> Hey all. I have some questions about managing setting up accounts in ldap, and then having appropriate rights. I need to setup teachers such that when they login, they have access to the terminal client manager, but not students. As well, I think it was said already, but the feature for "lockdown" that exists in the administrative section on a user desktops "should not"  work for regular students right??
[20:26] <achandrashekar> next question is that if i have things load balanced...and i want to use the terminal client manager, i have the clients across two systems...so does that mean I need to log into both servers to see what my users are doing?
[20:50] <johnny> no.. they won't be able to do anything under administration without the password
[20:54] <achandrashekar> johnny: okay...in ldap..I created a user for myself and put that user in teachers group. The user doesnt have access to the terminal manager, but does to the 'shield' looking lock down tool. It doesnt prompt the user for a password
[20:55] <achandrashekar> johnny: I havent created a student user..but Id think the same behavior is there.
[21:57] <johnny> achandrashekar, i'm not sure how this all works, i'm still learning it myself, the user may be able to lock themselves down even more
[21:57] <johnny> the problem would only occur if they could unlock themselves down
[21:57] <johnny> which i can't verify atm
[21:57] <johnny> haven't had time to work on it lately
[22:00] <achandrashekar> johnny: btw..have you figured out how to lock their desktop background screen?
[22:00] <achandrashekar> johnny: so they cant change it?
[22:11] <johnny> not yet.. i can't afford to spend time on it right now
[22:11] <johnny> afford as in money
[22:12] <johnny> you can always cron gconftool to change it back every night temporarily tho
[22:12] <johnny> oh. he left


[08:22] <bochecha_> smartboyhw: I've been covering in here all day, since I discovered this channel existed, but it would be nicer if an actual Ubuntu user stayed in here ;)
[08:22] <smartboyhw> bochecha_, ;0
[08:30] <ypwong> lol
[08:30] <bochecha_> yay, more people in here \o/
[08:30] <bochecha_> can I go now? :)
[08:30] <bochecha_> smartboyhw: did Koala contact you about the 13.04 release party?
[08:31] <smartboyhw> bochecha_, yep:P I can't join though (have replied) since I REALLY have exams to care about.
[08:31] <bochecha_> exams?
[08:31] <bochecha_> what's that? :P
[08:32] <bochecha_> so, no ypwong, no smartboyhw, not even me (to go and preach Fedora to the Ubuntu heretics :P)
[08:32] <bochecha_> hopefully he'll find other speakers :-/
[08:32] <smartboyhw> bochecha_, :-/
[08:32] <smartboyhw> bochecha_, examination duh
[08:33] <bochecha_> that was a joke, like, I'm so old I forgot what it was ;)
[08:33] <bochecha_> smartboyhw: would it work for you if it was earlier? (Koala told me he might change the date if no speaker was available on the 12th)
[08:33] <bochecha_> (and coincidentally, it would work brilliantly for me if it was earlier :P)


[14:30] <cpaelzer> hiho party people ddstreet didrocks jamespage sarnold doko (not yet around)
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep  1 14:30:18 2020 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[14:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:30] <ddstreet> o/
[14:30] <cpaelzer> well we had no individual items (but plenty of bugs) so next subtopic ...
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:30] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:31] <cpaelzer> there is a bunch of lintian->perl dependencies that usually doko handles directly
[14:31] <cpaelzer> there also is a slightly simpified process for them that vorlon mentioned - we should be ok to wait for doko to come back
[14:31] <cpaelzer> the rest is all known cases
[14:31] <cpaelzer> and many on a good way to resolve
[14:32] <cpaelzer> the two open categories IMHO are the set of jamespage paramiko/masakari - any updates on that jamespage?
[14:32] <cpaelzer> and the sorting of responsibilities on khronos-opencl-clhpp - didrocks did you have any success passing that to the kernel team?
[14:33] <sarnold> good morning
[14:34] <cpaelzer> hi ddstreet and sarnold
[14:34] <ddstreet> hello
[14:35] <jamespage> o/
[14:35] <didrocks> cpaelzer: still blocked on management level
[14:35] <jamespage> apologies late
[14:35] <didrocks> didn’t get any news :/
[14:35] <cpaelzer> ok didrocks
[14:35] <cpaelzer> jamespage: no problem, do you have an update what/when to expect on the packages I mentioned?
[14:36] <jamespage> masakari depends is with the security team to review
[14:36] <jamespage> (included crypto stuff)
[14:36] <jamespage> I thought coreycb or icey had raised an MIR for python-invoke - I'll chase
[14:36] <cpaelzer> that would be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-sqlalchemy-utils/+bug/1543641 then
[14:37] <jamespage> yep
[14:37] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-invoke/+bug/1892875
[14:37] <cpaelzer> I have not seen a MIR for python-invoke
[14:37] <jamespage> is the invoike bug
[14:37] <cpaelzer> hmm, why isn't this showing up
[14:37] <sarnold> not subscribed?
[14:37] <jamespage> is now
[14:37] <cpaelzer> yep
[14:37] <jamespage> but yes that was the problem
[14:37] <cpaelzer> ok now it needs a reviewer
[14:37] <jamespage> I said Id take that
[14:37] <cpaelzer> great
[14:38] <cpaelzer> I'll assign you to make that clear
[14:38] <jamespage> done
[14:38] <cpaelzer> and it will be showing in mismatches that there is a bug
[14:38] <cpaelzer> great
[14:38] <cpaelzer> didrocks: you had AA powers right?
[14:38] <cpaelzer> one more in component mismatch - libubootenv was resolved everything on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubootenv/+bug/1885142 is in place - just waits for an AA to promote
[14:38] <didrocks> yep!
[14:38] <didrocks> will do
[14:38] <cpaelzer> great
[14:39] <cpaelzer> the last thing I find puzzling in mismatches is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1536870
[14:39] <cpaelzer> re-promotion or does it show up due to an accident?
[14:40] <cpaelzer>  gnome-software | 3.36.1-2ubuntu2                                     | groovy/universe | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
[14:40] <cpaelzer> that is a desktop question so didrocks ^^ ?
[14:42] <cpaelzer> leaving that for later and going on :-)
[14:42] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[14:43] <cpaelzer> we can skip that as there are none except oem packages
[14:43] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[14:43] <sarnold> \o/
[14:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:43] <cpaelzer> we see plenty of cases that the MIR Team members handled last week
[14:43] <cpaelzer> ostress/fltapack I've seen didrocks and google-guets-agent as well
[14:44] <cpaelzer> the ccid and others (6 overall) I handled yesterday
[14:44] <cpaelzer> so many of our past MIR review assignments are done, let us check what is open in the next topic
[14:44] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[14:44] <cpaelzer> which of the assigned MIR reviews are still up?
[14:45] <ddstreet> i still have malcontent, assigned last week, i should get to it this week
[14:45] <cpaelzer> doko still has mdevctl
[14:45] <cpaelzer> since he was out that is no surprise
[14:46] <cpaelzer> but he hopefully gets to it soon once fulyl back
[14:46] <cpaelzer> sarnold: what was it you had open?
[14:46] <cpaelzer> was that done now?
[14:46] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 ?
[14:46] <sarnold> I had libinih, it's done for my part
[14:47] <sarnold> well
[14:47] <cpaelzer> great so not a lot of blocking on us
[14:47] <sarnold> I did have a few open questoins :) how does one determine built-using?
[14:47] <cpaelzer> sarnold: it is in the package meta info
[14:47] <sarnold> and I thought it needed a list of which specific binaries to promote
[14:48] <sarnold> cpaelzer: is that in the source package? or launchpad?
[14:48] <cpaelzer> ddstreet: just a day ago landed the "list of binaries to promote" change with me and it is in my git and the official Wiki review template
[14:48] <cpaelzer> sarnold: you just run apt-cache show <pkg> on it
[14:48] <cpaelzer> which lists the built-using
[14:48] <cpaelzer> BTW a not on that, it seems Debian will switch it to some X-* field sometime down the road
[14:48] <cpaelzer> as Built-using is overloaded with too many different meanings
[14:49] <cpaelzer> ruby or rust (not sure which) already uses a different field
[14:49] <cpaelzer> and go might at some point as well
[14:49] <sarnold> oh sheesh :)
[14:49] <cpaelzer> so keep your eyes open when checking that an empty Buitl-using is unlikely to be true
[14:49] <sarnold> well, I guess it's better to get 'specific use' sorted out sooner rather than letting it fester for decades
[14:49] <cpaelzer> sarnold: you might pass that to the seucirty Team as well
[14:49] <cpaelzer> just to be sure your scanners&tooling will adapt as needed
[14:50] <cpaelzer> but so far nothing happened, just intentions that were mentioned
[14:50] <cpaelzer> ok I'd close the meeting here for the week
[14:50] <cpaelzer> unless there is anything else - happy reviewing
[14:50] <cpaelzer> see you all
[14:50] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[14:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  1 14:50:55 2020 UTC.
[14:50] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-09-01-14.30.moin.txt
[14:50] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[14:51] <ddstreet> thanks all o/
[14:55] <didrocks> cpaelzer: urgh, just got the whole backlog, seems I was disconnected :/
[14:55] <didrocks> cpaelzer: gnome-software needs investigation due to the snap version, I’ll check
[15:07] <cpaelzer> ok thanks for checking on that didrocks
[15:07] <cpaelzer> if the snap has taken over for real then you might want/need to remove the dependncy pulling it in?
[15:59] <didrocks> cpaelzer: right, I need to check that with seb if this was the intended situation
[18:17] <vorlon> cpaelzer: doko is back this week


[01:00] <zette> hi, i have a problem. i just installed ubuntu mate, but when i want to play a music with rhytmbox, but it is no sound, how to fix it?
[16:41] <JimD> hello, used to get on freenode for Mint channels, got an Ethernet noob question
[16:44] <JimD> if two Linux computers are successfully linked with one Ethernet cable, and one is on Internet via a USB tether to a smartphone, will the other computer typically have Internet access too?
[16:45] <DonkeyHotei> it can, if the tethered one shares its connection
[16:45] <JimD> thanks, I can probably figure that out :-)
[16:51] <JimD> the whole Ubuntu, Gnome 2, Unity, Mint rebellion, Ubuntu Gnome 3, Ubuntu MATE history was fascinating to watch play out
[16:53] <JimD> I still think Gnome 2/MATE is *the* most user friendly welcome mat for newly-arrived Windows Muggles
[16:54] <vkareh> thankfully it was MATE the one that emerged victorious, and GNOME 3/Shell only exists in the memory of a few...
[16:55] <JimD> kind of like Canonical's New Coke, would you say? ;)
[16:56] <vkareh> haha something like that :P
[16:56] <vkareh> oh well, one can dream - but a lot of improvements in MATE are yanked straight from GNOME, so they do the dirty work and we just copy/paste it
[16:57] <JimD> I loved it that even Torvalds disliked Gnome 3 at first
[16:58] <vkareh> what is he using these days? I think he was a KDE user a while ago
[16:59] <JimD> well thanks for the Ethernet answer folks, gtg
[16:59] <vkareh> bye then


[00:11] <wrst> chris4585: its not bad unity is still bugy some crashes in the tray etc but nothing major
[00:34] <chris4585> yes I've seen a bunch of articles, seems good, but dash in my opinion still needs a VERY big overhaul
[00:34] <chris4585> besides that I think its alright
[00:36] <wrst> the software center looks top rate now
[00:36] <wrst> and the dash is much better
[00:36] <wrst> i suspect by the LTS it will be very good
[00:36] <wrst> I still am partial to gnome shell but could use unity now
[00:38] <chris4585> yeah
[00:38] <chris4585> I just hope software center is faster
[00:38] <chris4585> and less buggy
[00:41] <wrst> seems ok, but haven't used it much
[00:41] <chris4585> I heard it is more snappy now, but we'll see
[00:41] <wrst> unity still lacking in dual montiors it just absolutely sucks because I don't want the top bar on my second monitor
[01:28] <wrst> nivik: howdy!
[01:29] <nivik> how's it goin
[01:32] <wrst> going good nivik, how are you?
[01:33] <nivik> can't complain
[01:34] <wrst> sure you could we all can :) just no one listens when i do :D
[01:55] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: you mean the keys, RSA DSA & ECDSA or the cipher, AES TWOFISH & so on
[01:55] <cyberanger> wrst: what looks cool, openbts?
[01:56] <cyberanger> Unit193: I'm still wondering what your question is
[01:58] <wrst> yes cyberanger
[01:58] <wrst> and how are you doing?
[01:59] <cyberanger> wrst: not bad, just deciding which project I should save up for next
[01:59]  * cyberanger drools a little when he looks at this HUGE list
[02:00] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[02:00] <wrst> cyberanger: I'm trying 11.10 beta out, they have really improved unity
[02:13]  * cyberanger looks at his HUGE list for "try unity again", doesn't see it
[02:14]  * cyberanger checks again, to be sure, still not seeing it
[02:14]  * cyberanger looks for "try lubuntu again", sees it on line 200
[02:18] <wrst> cyberanger: it is much improved but still got a way to go
[02:19] <cyberanger> wrst: wanna know the sad thing, that bit above was serious, line 200 of my projects & todo list literally says try lubuntu again
[02:19] <cyberanger> it's literally 250 lines (or thereabouts) long
[02:19] <wrst> ha ha
[02:20] <wrst> gnome shell is working nicely now in ubuntu so I might use it a little bit more now
[03:07] <Juzzy> ya gnome has improved
[03:13] <cyberanger> Juzzy: I take it you've looked into OpenBTS a good bit
[03:13] <Juzzy> semi
[03:13] <Juzzy> there was a huge hacker project
[03:13] <Juzzy> using an airplane
[03:14] <Juzzy> I'll go google for it in a few
[03:18] <Juzzy> airprobe is one of the related projects
[03:22] <cyberanger> not aware of anything with an airplane, knew of airprobe (and some similar bits with the ccc there in germany)
[03:22] <Juzzy> http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/07/28/flying-drone-can-crack-wifi-networks-snoop-on-cell-phones/
[03:23] <Juzzy> i wonder how / if you could take like... a lake in bef
[03:23] <Juzzy> with a few hundred homes on it
[03:23] <Juzzy> and REALLY Crappy cell service.
[03:24] <Juzzy> pull in a land line, a t1 or such, openbts, and make a small phone network for bfe locations
[03:24] <Juzzy> prolly problem will be the t1 out there
[03:24] <Juzzy> anyways, I'm out, been a loooong day
[03:25] <cyberanger> Juzzy: perhaps a satellite (and I'm talking high end, not hughesnet)
[03:25] <cyberanger> not sure what bef or bfe stands for
[03:26] <cyberanger> heh, understand long days, chat later
[03:26] <Juzzy> bfe...
[03:26] <Juzzy> buttfuck ejypt
[03:26] <Juzzy> aka- middle of nowhere
[03:26] <Juzzy> we went camping today
[03:26] <Juzzy> the monsoon moved in on us
[03:27] <Juzzy> we got stuck in the mud before we could escape
[03:27] <Juzzy> so 9:00pm the guy who pulled us about half a mile to get where we could finially get traction
[03:27] <Juzzy> he lived about 10 mins down a few backroads
[03:28] <Juzzy> and he drove in the rain, no windshield or top on his jeep, no headlights, using 2 flashlights to see, pulled me and my kid in our van with a tailer, fun times
[03:31] <cyberanger> wow, that's a bit outside what I would think of as just a long day
[03:32]  * cyberanger had actually thought of that, but didn't know how the FAA has licenses UAV's in civilian hands yet
[03:34] <cyberanger> I was thinking more warflying than cracking and GSM MITM attacks and so on
[07:07] <Unit193> cyberanger: Na, it just had something to do with current hardware and the like
[07:48] <Unit193> (Family so in and out at best)
[08:36] <cyberanger> Unit193: current hardware for OpenBTS?
[08:36] <Unit193> Current phone hardware. I wasn't fully alive when I first skimmed it, so I'll look later
[08:37] <Unit193> Well, software really
[08:41] <cyberanger> OpenBTS is the base station, any GSM phone (AT&T & T-Mobile, here in the us) can connect to it
[08:42] <cyberanger> uses some unique hardware in the computers (well, no more unique than a gps I suppose, how many computers have gps built in)
[08:42] <cyberanger> but nearly everything is a apt-get or tarball away
[23:38] <wrst> howdy orangeninja, average_guy
[23:41] <average_guy> How's is goin wrst?
[23:41] <average_guy> rainin on ya?
[23:43] <wrst> all day average_guy but going well :)
[23:45] <average_guy> Hope you enjoyed the holiday.  Been a lazy day here.  Me n tha fam all pretty much just layin around.
[23:52] <wrst> that's a good thing average_guy been doing a few things around the house but that's all for me too