[10:38] <andrejz> hello dpm, dpm_
[10:39] <andrejz> i was wondering if there is something new known about universe packages tranlsatable in launchpad
[11:06] <dpm> hi andrejz :) there's nothing new yet, as I said last week, we need to wait until pitti comes back next week
[11:44] <andrejz> oh, i made a mistake by one week ;)
[11:44] <andrejz> i have another question, dpm
[11:44] <dpm> andrejz, sure :)
[11:45] <andrejz> why does compiz have so low priority (4970) in oneiric ?
[11:45] <andrejz> isn't it installed by default?
[11:46] <dpm> andrejz, it falls under the "GUI, default, other" category on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority
[11:46] <dpm> and its messages are not very visible, IIRC
[11:48] <andrejz> how come it doens't fit under "GUI, default, Ubuntu 9000 - 9499"?
[11:48] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 9000 in xmms (Ubuntu) "xmms fails to run (dup-of: 8474)" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9000
[11:48] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 8474 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed! (dup-of: 6786)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8474
[11:48] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 6786 in xmms (Debian) (and 1 other project) "xmms: does not start without libesd0 installed (dups: 9)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6786
[14:08] <dpm> andrejz, (sorry for the delay) it should really be "CLI, default", as the strings are not really visible, if I'm not mistaken, and I don't think people should concentrate more on translating compiz than in real GUI applications. But in any case I raised its priority to "GUI"
[14:09] <Jessica_Lily> dpm is my bug on launchpad okay? whats the next step? :)
[14:13] <dpm> hi Jessica_Lily, whatever we do (either we add it as a patch in Ubuntu or whether upstream glibc accepts it), you'll need to create a locale definition file. So I'd first start with a) Defining that locale definition file and b) Contacting upstream glibc as I mentioned on comment #5, to see what they think
[14:14] <Jessica_Lily> okay
[14:15] <dpm> Jessica_Lily, sorry it's a bit complicated, but it's a technical step all new languages have to go through :/ - You'll find more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/AddingNewLanguage
[14:15] <Jessica_Lily> okay :) I'm happy to put the time in, I'll reply to the bug once I'm done!
[14:16] <dpm> Jessica_Lily, excellent, thanks for looking into this! :-)
[14:21] <andrejz> dpm i have a question about an indicaitor of packages translation status in the software center
[14:21] <andrejz> i send email to mvo quite a while ago and he hasn't replied. do you know if he's around?
[15:00] <dpm> andrejz, he should be, but he might be busy. I'd recommend sending a reminder e-mail
[15:02] <andrejz> ok


[02:52] <nirel> guys i have a problem with my monitor
[13:24] <mgariepy> morning all
[14:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:51] <stgraber> ogra: btw, quick note on something we discussed a while ago. iBus works correctly even for localapps.
[15:51] <stgraber> ogra: it's clearly doing some magic somewhere but it's working very nicely here.
[15:51] <ogra> cool
[15:52] <stgraber> ogra: I'll have someone come to our office this afternoon to confirm that Chinese is working properly (as I don't really understand it) :)
[15:52] <stgraber> that's for one of my customer in China that'll be running laptop, desktops, thin clients and remote NX access on Karmic with Chinese input and interface
[15:52] <ogra> sweet !
[15:52] <stgraber> yep
[15:54] <alkisg> stgraber, now that both you and ogra are here, can I just change that passthrough debconf method back to noninteractive, like debian has it? I think ogra says that it was never actually implemented, so we can just save ourselves from all the error messages. I tried with the debian plugin and it worked fine, and we still have time to check if that affects the alternate cd somehow.
[15:54] <ogra> nono, i didnt say that
[15:55] <ogra> i said it was used in ltsp-client-builder on the CD
[15:55] <ogra> just that ltsp-client-builder was never properly finished :)
[15:55] <ogra> ltsp-client-builder makes some use of passthrough, it will show a lot less progress if you use noninteractive there
[15:56] <alkisg> Ah, sorry, misunderstood. But I did get the meaning right, right? I.e. that we can change it back to noninteractive...
[15:56] <alkisg> But now it just shows 50 % and then 100%...
[15:56] <alkisg> There's a bug filed for that
[15:57] <ogra> well, i would do it that way:
[15:57] <ogra> define a variable that can replace the debconf frontend in the code dynamically and default to noninteractive
[15:58] <ogra> if someone ever goes to fix the d-i module he will want to have passthrough available
[15:58] <ogra> so there you can then export that variable
[15:58] <alkisg> well, if DEBCONF_FRONTEND is set, we keep it, else we default to noninteractive - does that sound ok?
[15:58] <ogra> no, because d-i might set soemthing completely different
[15:59] <ogra> dont use DEBCONF_FRONTEND
[15:59] <ogra> definae something else
[15:59] <ogra> DEBCONF_FRONTEND=${SOMETHINGELSE:-noninteractive}
[15:59] <ogra> that should be in the ltsp-build-client plugin
[16:00] <alkisg> Won't ltsp-client-builder be "in charge" of setting that SOMETHINGELSE variable? Why would it be better than saving/restoring DEBCONF_FRONTEND?
[16:00] <ogra> ltsp-client-builder can then set SOMETHINGELSE to whatever it wants
[16:00] <alkisg> I.e. DEBCONF_FRONTEND=passthrough ltsp-build-client
[16:00] <alkisg> ...that'll save/restore the DEBCONF_FRONTEND value after the ltsp-build-client call...
[16:01] <ogra> well, try it
[16:01] <alkisg> But how would I try it on the alternate cd?
[16:02] <alkisg> I mean, shouldn't we change it, and test on a daily image if it works?
[16:02] <ogra> by changing it inside the CD :)
[16:02] <ogra> its very tricky
[16:02] <alkisg> Hmmm casper allows read/write, but what about the alternate?
[16:02] <alkisg> Ah, you mean to unzip/rezip the .iso?
[16:02] <ogra> it doesnt
[16:02] <ogra> yeah
[16:03] <ogra> fiddle with the iso
[16:03] <ogra> as i said, very tricky and very time consuming
[16:03] <alkisg> Hmmm I'd still go for the daily image, to save me some hours :)
[16:03] <ogra> thats why i gave up on it ... i missed the time
[16:03] <alkisg> (which I currently don't have :D)
[16:03] <alkisg> We're still in alpha3, can't we just try it?
[16:04] <sbalneav> Just to let people know, I'm expiring from the irc ops
[16:05] <alkisg> irc ops for edubuntu? why?
[16:05] <sbalneav> I have absolutely no desire to be an op for #edubuntu
[16:05] <alkisg> But why? :)
[16:06] <alkisg> What if someone comes here and starts misbehaving? Who're we going to turn to?
[16:06] <sbalneav> I'll let others handle that,  I've got enough on my plate as it is :)
[16:07] <alkisg> Oh com'on, it's not like it needs your attention every day... :)
[16:07] <alkisg> It's nice to have a trusted person as an op, even if we never actually need him
[16:09] <ogra> sbalneav, well, it comes in handy if you have a troll
[16:09]  * ogra is usually not around after 9pm UTC
[16:17] <LaserJock> hi all
[16:18] <LaserJock> highvoltage, stgraber, sbalneav: around?
[16:22] <sbalneav> Yes for a moment or two
[16:26] <LaserJock> sbalneav: for Hardy I had a feature added to Add/Remove to "float" ubuntu-edu-* app bundles to the top of the Education category
[16:26] <LaserJock> no Software Center is replacing Add/Remove and they don't want to do the floating thing
[16:26] <LaserJock> instead they have a mechanism for adding our own top-level "Compartment"
[16:27] <LaserJock> they would like to know if that's OK or if we *really* need the "float to the top" thing
[16:27] <LaserJock> it's my bug but since I'm no longer in charge here I wanted to ask you guys what you wanted to do
[16:33] <sbalneav> Hmm, not sure
[16:33] <sbalneav> Would the "compartment" be at the top
[16:34] <LaserJock> basically
[16:34] <LaserJock> top-level anyway
[16:34] <LaserJock> at the time that I added the floating thing the app-bundles were really a primary way of installing the Edubuntu software
[16:35] <LaserJock> as the Add-on CD wasn't getting used a ton it didn't seem
[16:35] <LaserJock> now that the DVD is here I don't imagine that it will be used all that much
[16:37] <LaserJock> my personal feeling is that it should be fine to drop the "float" thing as mvo/slangasek weren't pleased that we did it in the first place
[16:37] <LaserJock> as we were the only group using it
[16:37] <LaserJock> I think it also slowed down the app as the sorting got more complicated
[17:03] <joerg_> j #linux.de
[17:03] <joerg_> sorry
[18:47] <sbalneav> LaserJock: BTW, did you see the responses to my comment?
[18:52] <LaserJock> yeah
[18:52] <LaserJock> I tend to think anything to do with empathy or telepathy is a dead end
[18:53] <sbalneav> I mean, it would be one thing to say "Yeah, try this, this, this.... Oh, still nothing?  OK, might be upstream"
[18:54] <sbalneav> But it was *right out of the box*
[18:54] <sbalneav> And how the *&^#*% is a new end-user supposed to know where upstream is?
[18:56] <LaserJock> they're just drowning in bugs and so are trying to close as many as possible and shove everything upstream
[18:57] <LaserJock> but it does make one wonder what the point of having Launchpad is in that case
[18:58] <sbalneav> Well, that was my point.
[18:59] <LaserJock> I went to #telepathy to get help
[18:59] <LaserJock> not significantly better
[19:00] <LaserJock> but they did show me where there's a debug window in Empathy so I can watch to see if it's telepathy's fault or empathy's
[19:00] <LaserJock> ... but that just sort of gets me to which bug tracker I'm supposed to head to, I have no confidence that the bug will actually be fixed
[19:05] <sbalneav> Where's the debug window?
[19:05] <LaserJock> in Help
[19:06] <LaserJock> the problem is this is such a random/niche bug
[19:06] <LaserJock> but one I don't get in any other IM client


[21:40] <ilopezdan> hello everyone i have a problem.
[21:40] <ilopezdan> all java applets crash my firefox
[21:41] <ilopezdan> Setting up sun-java6-doc (6-14-0ubuntu1.8.04) ...
[21:41] <ilopezdan> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[21:41] <ilopezdan> JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[21:41] <ilopezdan> archives:
[21:41] <ilopezdan>     jdk-6u10-docs.zip jdk-6u10-docs-ja.zip
[21:41] <ilopezdan> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[21:41] <ilopezdan> Please visit
[21:41] <ilopezdan>     http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/
[21:41] <ilopezdan> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[21:41] <ilopezdan> to /tmp.
[21:41] <ilopezdan> [Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort]
[21:43] <ilopezdan> anyone help?
[21:45] <nthykier> I have no idea how installing sun-java6-doc and the java applets crashing are related - but I would recommend you to use default-jdk-doc instead of sun-java6-doc
[21:45] <nthykier> it is easier to install, though it may not be available in older releases of Ubuntu
[21:46] <ilopezdan> hardy heron possible?
[21:46] <nthykier> likely to be too old
[21:47] <nthykier> if it is not available try openjdk-6-doc or classpath-doc
[21:48] <ilopezdan> command not found.
[21:48] <ilopezdan> java started crashing after yesterdays system update for firefox 3.0
[21:49] <nthykier> those were not commands but package names
[21:50] <nthykier> I assumed that you wanted the Java API docs based on what you pasted in the channel
[21:50] <ilopezdan> yes because every time i try to install java it gives me that dpkg line
[21:52] <nthykier> ask it to uninstall  sun-java6-doc
[21:53] <nthykier> that or follow its instructions to finish its installation
[21:54] <ilopezdan> i got the docs but they show no instructions.
[21:54] <ilopezdan> i'm reading now that i need to uninstall firefox 3.5
[21:54] <ilopezdan> is firefox 2.0 still available?
[21:56] <nthykier> don't know
[21:56] <ilopezdan> man this is so strange..
[21:57] <ilopezdan> okay in synaptic i already have classpath install
[21:58] <ilopezdan> hmmm i need to delete firefox 3.5
[21:58] <ilopezdan> thats the problemo
[22:04] <ilopezdan> by any chance is there a way to get root access?
[22:04] <nthykier> sudo -i
[22:05] <ilopezdan> cannot excute binary file
[22:12] <ilopezdan> is there a channel for firefox support?
[22:13] <ilopezdan> i lost my browser. :(
[22:14] <nthykier> not sure
[22:14] <nthykier> I do not actually use Ubuntu :/
[22:15] <ilopezdan> lol
[22:15] <ilopezdan> hey thanks btw
[22:15] <nthykier> you are welcome
[22:16] <ilopezdan> now... i gotta rage.
[22:16] <nthykier> h yeah, you can also become root user by using "su -"
[22:17] <nthykier> however most Ubuntu machines I have met do not allow it
[22:17] <nthykier> but considering you do not have sudo, then hopefully su - works
[22:17] <nthykier> (both has to be run from a terminal - just in case)


[01:30] <mkarnicki> I have a problem. I removed my machine from the web gui, and now even u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c doesn't help. When I go to meMenu -> Ubuntu One, when it show's up the data (when it connects), the window disappears
[01:39] <duanedesign> hello mkarnicki
[01:40] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: you removed your machine from one.ubuntu.com/account/machines ?
[01:41] <mkarnicki> yes
[01:41] <mkarnicki> intentionally.
[01:41] <mkarnicki> perhaps I should have used the 'disconnect' button from the memenu -> u1
[01:41] <mkarnicki> let me check how are things, I had to reboot
[01:42] <mkarnicki> yep.. the ubuntu-preferences (I think it's called like that) disappears
[01:43] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I was experimenting, not that this is a very imporant issue. but it might be a bug.
[01:44] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: ok i think....
[01:46] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: c could you run this command and see if it works
[01:46] <duanedesign> gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences
[01:47] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: there has been a keyring bug that has prevented the Prerences from opening
[01:47] <mkarnicki> will do
[01:48] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: oops.. 3 config-like lines, and.. Segmentation fault
[01:48] <mkarnicki> and my android U1 app stopped to work, lol xD
[01:48] <duanedesign> Is the Ubuntu One token still in  Applications > Accessories > Password and Encryption Keys
[01:48] <mkarnicki> will check
[01:48] <duanedesign> oh no :/
[01:49] <mkarnicki> yes, it's there
[01:49] <mkarnicki> I've got also a python script to extract it, so it's there.
[01:50] <mkarnicki> what else can I check to leave some trace for this seg fault
[01:50]  * mkarnicki wonders how could his android app stop to work just like that..
[01:53] <mkarnicki> and now it works (the android app) o_O I wonder if it had anything to do with the servers..
[01:55] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: mkarnicki there should be some better way to handle having the machiine removed and the keyring still there. Or remove the Token when the machine is removed
[01:56] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: right.. it should have removed the token by itself, if I removed it from the web UI. shouldn't it?
[01:56] <mkarnicki> do you think that removing the token will solve the issue?
[01:57] <mkarnicki> I can try
[01:57] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: it should. But it doesnt.
[01:57] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: yes it should
[01:57] <duanedesign> removing the token should then prompt you to add your computer
[01:57] <duanedesign> when you open U1 from Me Menu
[01:57] <mkarnicki> I'll try that. brb
[01:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: lovely!!! now I know how to tell U1 the name of the phone via the URL :D ..TZcZ&description=hapu (hapu is my laptop)
[01:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: how do you say in english, one shot - two good things happened :D
[02:01] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: kill two birds with one stone
[02:01] <duanedesign> :)
[02:01] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: we just killed two birds with one stone :D thanks pal! (by the way, that metaphor is nasty xD )
[02:03] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I did all this to see that URL, so that when the Android phone user logs in, he'll see "AndroidU1"/his phone model/or something, in the Computer name field automatically :)
[02:05] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: you know I never thought about it, but that is kind of a violent metaphor :P
[02:07] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: heheh :D (and by the way, &description=myappname works nice :) )
[02:18] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: in Poland, we say something like: 'to cook to roasts over one fire' (but that is naturally word-by-word translation)
[02:18] <mkarnicki> to cook *two roasts over one fire
[02:18] <mkarnicki> it's less violent I think ;D
[02:18] <duanedesign> :)
[03:23] <Guest75464> I saw a few things out there asking if there was webdav for ubuntu one but no real anwsers
[03:23] <Guest75464> so...is there? could it be done?
[03:24] <duanedesign> Guest75464: i think it is something that is definetly being talked about. I have heard  of no concrete plans to do that at this point though
[03:24] <Guest75464> hm well webdav access to such services seems to be in demand right now
[03:24] <Guest75464> I think it'd be a smart way to go
[03:25] <Guest75464> and if they don't, people will start probing into how it's built, and how to use an api to access
[03:25] <Guest75464> that's what's happened with other storage services that didn't offer direct webdav support
[03:27] <Guest75464> lmao just hit sync from gnome file browsing, it crashed
[03:27] <Guest75464> nice
[03:29] <Guest75464> hm and ubuntu one from my indicator applet does nothing
[03:29] <Guest75464> odd
[05:31] <firewall03> I am having problems getting ubuntu one to work with the netbook remix distro
[08:38] <otto__> Hello! I've bought two albums from U1 music store and everything is fine except for one song that does not transfer from store to cloud. When I click to download the song "Baby [You've Got What It Takes] [with Sharon Jones & Dap-Kings]" (by Michael Bublé on album Crazy Love) in the Rhythmbox U1 music store interface, the page just reloads but no transfer is started. Can anyone help me with this?
[08:40] <otto__> In the download list it reads "This song was deleted or moved from your Library. You can <download it again> 2 more times." When I click on the link, the page just refreshes, but not download is started. On other songs the link worked fine.
[08:41] <otto__> I just tried it again, so there might be something in your logs visible a few minutes back.
[08:48] <directhex> otto__, is it on disk, in .ubuntuone ?
[08:48] <otto__> No. The file is only in the music store. Not on the disk and not in the cloud (not visible from the web interface). The problem is that the file does not transfer from the music store to my U1 account.
[08:53] <jamesh> otto__: aquarius might be able to diagnose the problem when he is up.
[08:53] <aquarius> otto__, hiya
[08:54] <aquarius> I'll take a look at that for you
[08:55] <otto__> aquarius: Thanks! btw, I'm an developer and I can run whatever diagnostic commands you want on my computer..
[08:56] <aquarius> otto__, sadly, if the song's not appearing in your personal cloud, then your computer hasn't entered into the equation yet; it's a problem on the Ubuntu One servers. I'm just grabbing the logs now
[09:16] <otto__> aquarius: Did you find anything?
[09:17] <aquarius> still waiting for the logs to process (we have a lot of logs from people buying music :))
[09:26] <aquarius> otto__, when did you buy this song?
[09:26] <aquarius> (I'm having difficulty finding a record of it :( )
[09:29] <otto__> aquarius: Your Ubuntu One Music Store receipt, Order Date/Time  : 30/04/2010 20:07:46
[09:29] <aquarius> aha, it was a while back, that would explain why it's not in the recent logs ;)
[09:30] <aquarius> (see PM for a question)
[09:31] <otto__> aquarius: Yes but I've been clicking on the download link several times for the last weeks. I've been hoping that somebody would have fixed it, but no luck yet..
[09:31] <directhex> one of the signs of a madman is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results
[09:32] <aquarius> otto__, yeah, something strange is going on there, then. I'm trying to track down your purchase record
[09:37] <otto__> directhex: ;)
[09:38] <otto__> I just installed gtk-recordmydesktop and made a video of the problem: http://otto.kekalainen.net/attachments/u1-music-store-download-link-error.ogv Sometimes a picture or a video tells more that a thousand words..
[09:39] <aquarius> otto__, see PM for a question
[09:42] <aquarius> otto__, OK, I'd like you to try something. Quit Rhythmbox. open a terminal window, and run "rhythmbox -D U1", which will start Rhythmbox again. Then go back to your My Downloads list in the music store, and try clicking that "download it again" link. (It should continue to not work.) Then copy the output from the terminal into paste.ubuntu.com so I can take a look at it?
[09:42] <aquarius> something is tripping up on that one song, for reasons I don't understand.
[09:43] <aquarius> when you tell it "download this again", it's not *actually* downloading it again.
[09:51] <otto__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/439263/
[09:51] <aquarius> ha.
[09:51] <aquarius> OK, I see the bug.
[09:52] <otto__> maybe the url https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store/library?force=Michael%20Bubl%C3%A9/Crazy%20Love/Baby%20[You%27ve%20Got%20What%20It%20Takes]%20[with%20Sharon%20Jones%20&%20the%20Dap-Kings].mp3 has forbidden strings ([ and ])?
[09:53] <aquarius> it's because the & in "Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings" isn't escaped
[09:54]  * aquarius grumbles. It should be, though. That's weird.
[09:54] <otto__> Also [ and ] should be %5B and %5D.
[09:55] <aquarius> yeah. the escaper isn't escaping everything.
[09:55] <aquarius> ah, it's escaping it for HTML display, not for URLs.
[09:56] <otto__> When I look at the page source, it reads download it again
[09:57] <aquarius> yep, which is wrong.
[09:57] <aquarius> I'm escaping it and I should be URL-encoding it.
[09:58] <aquarius> oops.
[09:58] <aquarius> good catch, otto__
[09:59] <otto__> I ran manually https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store/library?force=Michael+Bubl%E9%2FCrazy+Love%2FBaby+%5BYou've+Got+What+It+Takes%5D+%5Bwith+Sharon+Jones+%26+the+Dap-Kings%5D.mp3 but that didn't work either..
[10:01] <aquarius> try %C3%A9 instead of %E9 for é
[10:01] <otto__> I also tried https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store/library?force=Michael+Bubl%E9%2FCrazy+Love%2FBaby+%5BYou've+Got+What+It+Takes%5D+%5Bwith+Sharon+Jones+&+the+Dap-Kings%5D.mp3 with your html entities, but that didn't work.
[10:02] <otto__> not working: https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store/library?force=Michael+Bubl%C3%A9Crazy+Love%2FBaby+%5BYou've+Got+What+It+Takes%5D+%5Bwith+Sharon+Jones+%26+the+Dap-Kings%5D.mp3
[10:03] <otto__> WORKS!!: https://one.ubuntu.com/music/store/library?force=Michael+Bubl%C3%A9%2FCrazy+Love%2FBaby+%5BYou've+Got+What+It+Takes%5D+%5Bwith+Sharon+Jones+%26+the+Dap-Kings%5D.mp3
[10:03] <otto__> Downloading.. :)
[10:03] <aquarius> wrong Unicode encoding in your original try, mi compadre :)
[10:03] <aquarius> super :)
[10:04] <otto__> I've paid for my albums and I pay for my U1 subscription, so I guess you'll fix this and file the bugs etc and my part of the job is now done?
[10:04] <aquarius> I have just written a branch which should fix this bug; it will be a few days before it's deployed so that everyone gets the benefit, but we've now solved your problem, and thank you very much for the help :)
[10:05] <aquarius> well, your part of the job is done except that you should have a nice warm feeling that you helped me fix it for everyone else :)
[10:08] <otto__> I've also got the problem that my U1 folders do not seem to sync always when they should, but now I need to get some lunch. Maybe I'll complain about that later in case the corresponding bug reports don't get fixed in a resonable time (e.g. #426930,  #571548)
[10:10] <otto__> Thanks for you help and keep up the good work! Everything is not perfect now, but I have confidence that everything around Ubuntu gets better every day. One day we'll also fix the bug #1 ;)
[10:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 17 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 408) (heat: 2246)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[10:41] <daubers> Hello, is there any update on the music store bug that prevents music being transferred to the storage?
[10:42] <bux> Hello =)
[10:43] <bux> Sorry for my english, someone have a problem to sync with ubunto one today ? I can't sync my files, and ubuntu store music bought today
[11:43] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:52] <snielsen> so how about ubuntuone sync status? lots of old messages claiming contacts sync is disabled, but no status updates anywhere. My Ubuntuone client claims to have "Finished synchronisation", however, my evol ubuntu one address book is still empty (I just reinstalled a few days ago only to realize AFTER reinstall that uone sync was not working. Never got any notice of that before acrtually realizing it wont sync to my newly setup
[12:55] <snielsen> honk
[12:56] <rye> snielsen, hi, currently replication is disabled, let me dig into the mail now to see what's the current status
[13:00] <snielsen> uone client REALLY needs some update FAST to provide users with correct status info. As i did not subscribe to some uone mailing list or twitter feed, I never ever got any notice of sync being disabled as i actually use it on 1 pc only right now, though it was stable enough by now to use it as some kind of backup as you advertise quite heavy on this feature. ;)
[13:00] <snielsen> ...thought it was.. i mean
[13:59] <dobey> that is exactly why i did not want to put the status in ubuntuone-preferences
[14:03] <rye> dobey, i believe the fact that couchdb is somehow attached to the service, not being seen as an integral part causes this. Indication is okif it shows all the picture.
[14:04] <dobey> rye: no, the cause is we have no way to get replication status from couchdb, and it doesn't happen with every change. it's on a timeout
[14:05] <dobey> it's purely technical issues
[14:05] <dobey> albeit somewhat difficult to solve
[14:43] <Panda_Oli> Hey all, anyone available for some couchdb, desktop couch troubleshootin? im ok skilled with terminal
[14:55] <rye> Panda_Oli, are you trying to fix local issue or find our the reason why replication does not work?
[14:55] <rye> replication is disabled at the moment so clients cannot connect
[14:56] <Panda_Oli> rye, thanks for the info, i didnt know that. Actually, i was trying to setup my couchdb to "autostart" when i boot.
[14:57] <rye> Panda_Oli, i.e. when you log into the session?
[14:57] <Panda_Oli> rye, yeah... it's because i've messed with this way too much than i should have... but maybe it's not the right time to mess around with this since replication is disabled
[14:59] <rye> Panda_Oli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/439361/
[14:59] <rye> erm
[14:59] <Panda_Oli> i got disconnected, im back
[15:00] <rye> Panda_Oli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/439361/
[15:00] <rye> Panda_Oli, i have this script in my startup applications
[15:01] <Panda_Oli> rye, that's exactly what i needed i think
[15:02] <Panda_Oli> rye, i wonder how to set it up as a startup script though...
[15:04] <rye> Panda_Oli, if you need a full-fledged couchdb server, then it is very different. desktopcouch is aimed to have couchdb per-user
[15:04] <Panda_Oli> i just need basic for desktopcouch
[15:05] <Panda_Oli> i just dont want to always do $dbus-send --session --dest=org.desktopcouch.CouchDB --print-reply --type=method_call / org.desktopcouch.CouchDB.getPort
[15:05] <Panda_Oli> to get it started
[15:07] <rye> Panda_Oli, the script what i gave you can be added to startup, it does basically the same
[15:14] <biborn> when will ubuntu one sync service fixed?
[15:15] <Panda_Oli> Thanks Rye
[15:55] <Panda_Oli> So replication is down server-side right?
[15:56] <Panda_Oli> ResourceNotFound: ('db_not_found', 'could not open https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/xxxxxxx/')
[15:58] <rye> Panda_Oli, yes
[15:58] <Panda_Oli> rye, thx
[16:04] <appu226> hi ... i just create a subscribed on ubuntu one
[16:04] <appu226> i'm unable to locate the "add your computer" page
[16:04] <appu226> any help?
[16:05] <appu226> ah.. sorry... ignore :-)
[16:13] <appu226> quit
[16:13] <appu226> exit
[18:28] <dapmk> honk
[23:17] <jr6yujw46> can i have help please?
[23:35] <rotten777> Trying to remove folders from the u1 sync daemon, it just hangs up.. anyone awake?
[23:40] <askhawk> hi
[23:40] <askhawk> I need help
[23:40] <askhawk> anyone?
[23:42] <askhawk> anybody out there?
[23:58] <duanedesign> askhawk: hello


[08:55] <juergh[m]> heeen: this works just fine for me:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/799f5663386e752aee6a5b8e6fe87e7a6269092a>)
[09:04] <heeen> its pulling in 159 dependencies for ubuntu-tools but I'll give it a shot
[09:06] <heeen> Found linux-lowlatency 5.19.0-1007.7 in lunar
[09:06] <heeen> Downloading linux-lowlatency_5.19.0-1007.7.dsc from ports.ubuntu.com (0.006 MiB)
[09:06] <heeen> [[09:06] <heeen> Public key not found, could not verify signature
[09:06] <heeen> Downloading linux-lowlatency_5.19.0.orig.tar.gz from ports.ubuntu.com (198.616 MiB)
[09:06] <heeen> [[09:06] <heeen> Downloading linux-lowlatency_5.19.0-1007.7.diff.gz from ports.ubuntu.com (6.024 MiB)
[09:06] <heeen> [[09:06] <heeen> Source unpack failed.
[09:07] <heeen> ah I had a folder of the same name
[09:52] <heeen> juergh[m]: that seems to have worked, thank you


[20:08] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:08] <hads> morning
[20:09] <ibeardslee> CopperGold:  Well if you were here we could talk about it .. but as you can't be bothered hanging around .. ;)
[20:19] <ajmitch_> morning
[20:47] <thumper> o/
[22:33] <olly> morning


[00:00] <JanC> zoopster: you have some experience with them?
[00:00] <zoopster> not with using them. in a sysadmin fashion, no
[00:13] <lifeless> sidnei: yes
[00:14] <lifeless> sidnei: https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC
[00:23] <lifeless> sidnei: did you see my reply ?
[00:23] <sidnei> lifeless, no, but i figured it out. i forgot to create the target directory for the mount.
[00:24] <sidnei> the error i got was complete nonsense. :/
[00:25] <lifeless> sidnei: shouldnt be needed with bind mount
[00:25] <lifeless> *shrug*
[00:25] <lifeless> sidnei: anyhow with oneiric its just -b sidnei to lxc-create :)
[00:26] <sidnei> lifeless, i was trying to mount /src in the host as /src in the container.
[00:26] <sidnei> lifeless, it's where i keep all my checkouts.
[00:26] <sidnei> lifeless, and /src didn't exist in /var/lib/lxc/<container>/rootfs/src
[00:26] <sidnei> lifeless, so lxc-start failed in obscure ways
[02:13] <zul> RoAkSoAx_: you can do usb power on the pandaboard fyi
[02:16] <Martyn> sort of
[02:16] <Martyn> it needs slightly more than USB is designed to give to run
[02:16] <zul> looks fine to me
[02:18] <Martyn> so you can run the CPU, but when you have to power the USB network device at the same time you'll brown out the CPU slightly
[02:18] <Martyn> If you are using the WiFi, you'll be fine (but only just)
[02:19] <Martyn> USB can provide about ~80% of the power the board needs
[02:21] <Pilif12p> Why would my server be showing just $ when I ssh in, not tanner@server~$ or whatever
[02:23] <twb> Pilif12p: because /bin/sh is your login shell
[02:24] <twb> Pilif12p: I would guess because you are creating users with (say) webmin instead of adduser.
[02:24] <Pilif12p> no, i did "useradd tanner"
[02:24] <twb> Do not use useradd
[02:24] <Pilif12p> What shall I use instead?
[02:25] <twb> adduser
[02:26] <twb> useradd is a low-level command invoked by adduser
[02:26] <Pilif12p> oh
[02:31] <octillion> I don't see anything wrong with using useradd.  If you want to change the default shell, just use the -s option
[02:31] <octillion> or use usermod to change the shell after the fact
[02:33] <octillion> Pilif12p, do "sudo usermod -s /bin/bash tanner" to change the default shell for tanner to bash
[02:33] <Pilif12p> urgh, i can't delete users now
[02:34] <Pilif12p> meh. fixed it
[02:34] <Pilif12p> thanks octanium
[02:34] <Pilif12p> and octillion
[02:34] <twb> octillion: yes, but presumably he's enough of a newbie that adduser's hand-holding is beneficial
[02:34] <twb> You're right that I should've mentioned chsh (or usermod -s), though.
[02:34] <octillion> twb, fair enough, though reading through the man page for useradd shouldn't be too difficult
[02:35] <twb> octillion: if he could read a damn manpage he wouldn't have asked us :-/
[02:53] <RoAkSoAx_> zul: cool!! no power supply then
[02:54] <RoAkSoAx_> zul: what type of cable ar eyou using?
[02:56] <philipballew> how do i find all open ports on an ip address
[03:00] <philipballew> need to scan my remote server
[03:03] <qman__> philipballew, nmap, but be forewarned, using this tool wrong over the net can be illegal
[03:03] <qman__> so make sure you RTFM and know exactly what you're doing
[03:06] <philipballew> for sure. qman__  its just my friends server i am troubleshooting for him. doing it to unknown random people is usually bad
[03:06] <philipballew> those damn blackhats!
[03:33] <twb> Crossing the street can be illegal
[03:36] <philipballew> twb have you ever "crossed the street"?
[03:37] <twb> philipballew: sure; https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jaywalking
[03:37] <philipballew> the cops have better things to do then bug people for jwalking'
[03:38] <twb> And there are enough dumbasses running nmap on 0/0 that probably nobody is going to knock on your door for doing it
[03:38] <twb> Although I suppose your ISP might cut off your tubes for violating AUP
[03:42] <philipballew> depends on the isp probably
[03:44] <twb> Yeah, definitely
[03:44] <philipballew> att are the worst
[03:54] <lifeless> hallyn: well, it tries to start now (without step 3)
[03:54] <lifeless>  sudo lxc-start -n lucid-test-lp
[03:54] <lifeless> init: plymouth-splash main process (155) terminated with status 2
[03:54] <lifeless> init: plymouth main process (7) killed by ABRT signal
[03:55] <lifeless> hallyn: but its a little unhappy ;)
[03:58] <lifeless> hallyn: though that looks like it might be a container glitch; investigating
[04:00] <lifeless> hallyn: yes, looks like a container glitch
[04:24] <lifeless> hallyn: ahh, I can reliably nuke an lucid container :(
[05:39] <sw0rdfish> how to check what my friend is doing? I gave him ssh access to do something for me in my vps?
[07:12] <RoyK> sw0rdfish: ttysnoop?
[07:43] <huats> morning !
[07:44] <bkerensa> good morning :)
[07:47] <_ruben> *yawn*
[09:22] <tiphares> can someone name a simple, yet good, text editor witha gui for ubuntuserver?
[09:24] <_ruben> gui and server don't go along very well usualy
[09:24] <greppy> gvim
[09:25] <greppy> or just use nano in an xterm.
[09:25] <tiphares> i have fluxbox on it because i find coding easier with a gui
[09:26] <tiphares> i use nano for 'everyday use'
[10:55] <incidence> Hi, I'm installing openvpn but I keep getting error: "Since you are using --dev tun with a point-to-point topology, the second argument to --ifconfig must be an IP address. You are using something (<IP_ADDRESS>) that looks more like a netmask."
[10:55] <incidence> when connecting with a client
[10:56] <incidence> http://pastie.org/private/pwoyp62ifmdpayl7ldxg - there's my server config file
[10:56] <incidence> I'm trying to access our offices <IP_ADDRESS> network via openvpn
[13:51] <hallyn> SpamapS: I know you're uber-busy, but have you had any cycles to think about bug 350936 ?
[13:52] <hallyn> I'm tempted to say let's create a libvirt-shutdown.conf, startig on start runlevel 06, which shuts down the domains, and having qemu-kvm wiat on that one to finish before stopping
[13:53] <hallyn> though I guess sendsigs is still a problem;  so that's the main reason I'm pinging you :)
[14:45] <r4__> so im trying to build slapd with tcp wrappers support....im issuing the command "dpkg -b openldap-2.4.21/" but im getting the error "dpkg-deb: failed to open package info file `openldap-2.4.21//DEBIAN/control' for reading: No such file or directory"
[14:45] <r4__> however... openldap-2.4.21/debian/control exists
[14:46] <r4__> the only modification i did to the source was adding "--enable-wrappers" to the "CFLAGS = ..." line in openldap-2.4.21/debian/rules
[14:46] <r4__> any suggestions? the man page failed me
[14:47] <patdk-wk> r4__ I seriously doubt c supports the --enable-wrappers command
[14:47] <r4__> c?
[14:47] <patdk-wk> yes, you added it to CFLAGS
[14:47] <patdk-wk> flags used when running c (or gcc)
[14:48] <r4__> hrm...then im not too sure where i need to add that command :(
[14:48] <patdk-wk> well, something told you to add --enable-wrappers, what told you that?
[14:48] <r4__> i could of sworn it was a CFLAG
[14:48] <patdk-wk> I will bet you it isn't :)
[14:48] <r4__> digging thru the source...lemme find a link
[14:51] <r4__> http://tinyurl.com/3ufw4hg
[14:51] <r4__> line 279
[14:52] <patdk-wk> oh, 3 things
[14:52] <patdk-wk> I don't see anything about CFLAGS there
[14:52] <patdk-wk> that isn't instructions
[14:53] <patdk-wk> and you should atleast google this, or do what I told you days ago, and not go greping the source
[14:55] <patdk-wk> like I told you a few days ago, edit debian/rules
[14:55] <patdk-wk> and add the --enable-wrappers in there to the configure command
[15:03] <patdk-wk> heh useless, openslap has --enable-wrappers by default
[15:13] <r4__> patdk-wk: thats what i did
[15:13] <r4__> i edited rules
[15:13] <patdk-wk> well, it's already enabled
[15:13] <patdk-wk> so I dunno why you need to *redo it* to enable it
[15:13] <r4__> but thanks for telling me it has it by defualt...i did not see it in rules
[15:14] <r4__> i dont...i couldnt find it in there, so i assumed it wasnt
[15:14] <patdk-wk> the rules file imports configure.options
[15:14] <r4__> ahh...so that is the file where i would find if such flags were set
[15:33] <r4__> patdk-wk: thanks for dealing with my ignorance :)
[15:48] <SpamapS> hallyn: I did spend some time on it last cycle but got distracted
[15:48] <SpamapS> hallyn: re bug 350936
[15:50] <SpamapS> hallyn: I seem to be caught in a cycle where I go "oh thats a bug I'll do that after Feature Freeze" and then after feature freeze I go "oh there are bugs in my new features I have to fix those" and then I never get to these important ones. :-P
[15:54] <hallyn> SpamapS: I wonder if we can work aroudn it for libvirt by having it start on starting (whatever starts sendsigs)
[15:54] <hallyn> I think I might have to pursue that.  I feel like this is something that needs to be solved.  soon.
[15:54] <SpamapS> hallyn: I believe the appropriate thing to do is to have the thing that shuts down all vms start on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[016]
[15:55] <SpamapS> hallyn: once rc has started, its kind of over. :-P
[15:55] <hallyn> right
[15:55] <hallyn> since sendsigs is initscripts, that's what i meant :)
[15:56] <hallyn> SpamapS: i think i'll work on a proposal
[15:56] <hallyn> lemme rephrase more assertively.  I will work on a proposal :)
[15:56] <SpamapS> hallyn: cool.. appreciate it, I think that bug is important too. :)
[15:56] <hallyn> thx, ttyl
[15:56] <SpamapS> hallyn: reassign the bug to yourself and mark it In Progress then.
[16:00] <zul> hallyn: did you run the last meeting?
[16:02] <hallyn> zul: no i didn't, though i did pretty recnetly
[16:02] <hallyn> SpamapS: yup, soon as i get started
[16:02] <hallyn> zul: what no agenda updates?
[16:41] <potatoe> I added new modules to /lib/modules, what is the command that I must run after I add these modules ( before I start doing modprobes )
[16:43] <patdk-wk> depmod?
[16:47] <Daviey> zul: Can you add ipxe to server-supported for now, and we'll think about adding it to another post A3.
[16:47] <zul> Daviey: yep
[16:47] <Daviey> cool
[16:48] <zul> Daviey: umm already there: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.oneiric/view/head:/server-ship
[16:51] <Daviey> zul: so it is..
[16:51] <Daviey> :)
[16:51] <Daviey> annnnd. it's showing.. we are just blocked on AA.
[16:55] <hallyn> SpamapS: if i do 'stop on starting runlevel [016]', will that DTRT?
[16:56] <hallyn> eh - let's try
[16:59] <potatoe> THANKs :D patdk-wk
[17:03] <SpamapS> hallyn: no
[17:03] <SpamapS> hallyn: stop on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[016]
[17:09] <h4lfl1ng> hello all, i'm running ubuntu server 11.04 and I cant seem to get sudo to keep environmental variables that were exported either as sudo or su or sudo -i
[17:11] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: su alone should keep your environment, I don't think sudo will
[17:13] <Pici> h4lfl1ng: What about sudo -s ?
[17:13] <RoyK> dunno - try it
[17:14] <RoyK> doesn't look like it
[17:14] <RoyK> Pici: man sudo
[17:14] <RoyK> Pici: there's a -E flag
[17:14] <h4lfl1ng> Pici: noope..
[17:15]  * RoyK throws an RTFM in Pici's direction
[17:16] <Pici> RoyK: throw it at h4lfl1ng
[17:16] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: see above, please :P
[17:16] <RoyK> Pici: sorry
[17:16] <Pici> RoyK: its okay.
[17:18] <h4lfl1ng> RoyK: -E for what command?
[17:18] <h4lfl1ng> sudo?
[17:18] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: man sudo
[17:19] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: man sudo # RTFM
[17:23] <h4lfl1ng> RoyK: How do I use the SETENV tag? When I try to do sudo -E export ASD="stuff" I get export not found..
[17:24] <Pici> export is a shell builtin
[17:25] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: export somevar=asdf; sudo -E ... echo $somevar
[17:25] <RoyK> sudo -Ei should work well, preseving the old variables
[17:25] <RoyK> h4lfl1ng: it's all in the docs ;)
[18:09] <Velmont> Problem: multiple computers with multiple users. They "lock screen" and sometimes ppl have to turn computer off (cutting power). That makes Firefox go batshit crazy because of .lock-files, so it never starts again.
[18:10] <Velmont> Problem 2: If you login on two computers, and open LibreOffice on both, LO will destroy its own profile. Never starting again (until you delete the profile).
[18:11] <Velmont> So. Possible fix 1 to problem 2: How can I only allow people to login ONCE? I'm using OpenLDAP and pam_ldap.
[18:12] <Velmont> Possible fix for problem 1: How can I NOT allow people to lock the computers? Only logout?
[18:13] <Pici> Depending on what desktop environment you're using, and how updated these links are...
[18:13] <Pici> !lockdown
[18:13] <Pici> That *might* help.
[18:14] <Velmont> Pici: Yes pessulusus or what's it's name. I can see if it has anything that can help :-D
[18:16] <Velmont> Trying to force everyone to use gnome-desktop by default, because Unity crashes so badly and only allows people to login 2/3 of the times they try (or else they have to reboot). It's a problem with either compiz, or unity and ldap. Or maybe NFS. I have no idea after trying to find out why. :-)
[18:20] <Velmont> Pici: Disable Lock Screen and Disable User Switching will work. -- Great, that should help with the Firefox and Thunderbird lock problem.  --  It won't help with the OpenOffice problem though. But a step closer to more sane computing (and less yelling at the Linux machines)
[18:25] <OsakaFoo> hi, just got all the way though to "configure package manager" and for some reason it decided to disconnect the usb which it was installing to. Is there any way to continue the install?
[18:58] <miceiken> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - I am getting this error when trying to make a gameserver connect with the mysql-server. It works fine other than that with for example PHP.
[19:07] <patdk-wk> miceiken, heh, that shouldn't work :) that is a huge security issue
[19:41] <r4__> ugh i cannot figure out for the life of me why the ldap daemon won't start after i enable SSL authentication
[19:42] <r4__> following this guide, http://tinyurl.com/3fmbtt8
[19:43] <r4__> At the end of the section...that is the error i get.
[19:45] <patdk-wk> probably broken cert
[19:45] <caaakeeey> hey, whats the best ami to use on amazon?
[19:45] <patdk-wk> personally, I perfer one that works :)
[19:50] <caaakeeey> which one would that be?
[19:53] <r4__> patdk-wk: probably...fun!
[19:58] <lifeless> hallyn: hiya
[20:22] <hallyn> lifeless: hey
[20:22] <lifeless> hallyn: hey
[20:23] <hallyn> (doing some tests involving rebooting my laptop right now, apologies in advance for delays)
[20:23] <lifeless> hallyn: seen my omgwtf bug ?
[20:23] <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/819621
[20:23] <skaet> Daviey,  hggdh - are you good with the current Ubuntu server images, or do you want to pick up the new images that were part of the respin?
[20:23] <hallyn> lifeless: yup
[20:23] <hallyn> lifeless: the workaround there should fix the wrost part (the not restarting)
[20:24] <lifeless> ah, thanks! will try after I get off the call I'm on
[20:24] <lifeless> hallyn: and so ssh was blocking getty ?
[20:24] <hallyn> no, but networking was
[20:25] <lifeless> thanks!
[20:26] <hallyn> lifeless: i'm really hoping that next week we can get real reboot support so we can stop having all these issues
[20:26] <lifeless> that would be cool
[20:26]  * hallyn reboots
[20:26] <lifeless> is my playing with this helping you at all?
[20:27] <stgraber> hallyn: getting reboot working and getting closer to having the user namespaces would be awesome :) then we'd have good hopes of having close to OpenVZ's feature set for the next LTS
[21:00] <lifeless> hallyn: back ?
[21:04] <Bernhard> Any dutch people ?????
[21:04] <genii-around> !nl
[21:09] <hallyn> lifeless: what's up?
[21:10] <hallyn> stgraber: user namespace won't be ready :(  unless a miracle happens, I expect the vfs support to tak ea long time
[21:11] <lifeless> hallyn: just wondering if my experiments are helpful to you, or I'm just finding issues you already know about ?
[21:16] <hallyn> lifeless: they are helpful to me, definately
[21:17] <photon> hi
[21:18] <hallyn> (time for another sync and reboot)
[21:19] <skaet> hmm.. haven't heard back on those Server images so going to post the latest.
[21:24] <hggdh> skaet: I have not looked at the server images; it is probably not a bad idea to get the latest respin
[21:25] <skaet> thanks hggdh
[21:37] <lifeless> hallyn: cool; I shall persevere then!
[21:39] <photon> hey. can anyone recommend a good book on Linux server administration, Ubuntu Server specifically, that focuses on security and efficient administration? I need something to read on my 10 hour plane ride.
[21:50] <hallyn> lifeless: I appreciate it
[21:55] <Bernhard> when i install a prog with for example apt-get install nginx
[21:55] <Bernhard> then it does not install automaticly the latest version.. how can i update and install in the same path ?
[22:40] <Daviey> skaet: I don't think significant testing has yet been achieved, thereore i'd like to stay as current with the other flavours as possible.
[22:40] <skaet> Daviey,  goodness since I just finished updating ;)
[22:41] <Daviey> hah, glad you thought to ask tho :P
[22:41] <skaet> Daviey,  well hggdh did say it was ok.  ;)
[22:42] <skaet> Daviey, I'm looking to see if the arm server images are off the builder,  and if so, unless you tell me otherwise,  I think you've got your images.
[22:44] <Daviey> skaet: good stuff!
[22:45] <Daviey> skaet: I will sign off amd64 and i386, NCommander needs to sign off the arm delieverables.
[22:50] <skaet> Daviey,  gotcha.
[23:18] <lifeless> SpamapS: hallyn's lxcmount.conf patch should fixup lxc starting up for you on oneiric
[23:18] <lifeless> SpamapS: I suspect it was the same issue
[23:18] <SpamapS> lifeless: sweet
[23:18] <SpamapS> lifeless: any other gotchyas?
[23:20] <lifeless> SpamapS: see my running docs - ./lucid-test-lp/rootfs/etc/init/lxcmount.conf
[23:20] <lifeless> bah
[23:20] <lifeless> https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC#preview
[23:21] <lifeless> SpamapS: anything [oneiric only] is a gotcha :P
[23:23] <SpamapS> lifeless: we can likely backport lxcguest to lucid for these purposes.
[23:23] <lifeless> SpamapS: yes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/819621/comments/12 :P
[23:23] <lifeless> SpamapS: that said, we should fix oneiric as much as possible to avoid -faarghly- workarounds.
[23:42] <Velmont> What? LXC? How new is that? Is it former vserver? I've tried Xen, KVM, usermode linux, openvz and vserver. But never seen LXC.
[23:44] <Velmont> In mainstream kernel since 2.6.29. Hmm. Ohwell. Need to look that up then :]
[23:52] <SpamapS> Velmont: LXC is most like OpenVZ
[23:53] <patdk-lap> lxc is much better then openvz
[23:53] <Velmont> SpamapS, patdk-lap: Yes, I'm reading some of the guide. Although I should be asleep, seeing as I've got a job interview tomorrow :-)
[23:57] <SpamapS> Velmont: 5 hour energy FTW