[07:43] <rww> well, there's also totem-xine, but I don't think it's maintained any more or something
[07:44] <wols_> pheonixman: smplayer is a frontend to mplayer only. check your smplayer logs (there are menu options for it) to see why it doesn't
[07:44] <rho1> wols_ i want to login to another user..
[07:44] <wols_> girly: there are no "codecs" in mplayer so it doesn't help the slightest
[07:44] <rho1> sudo login <another user > | echo <password>
[07:44] <girly> wols_: smplayer .. frontend to mplayer I didn't know that sorry
[07:45] <girly> wols_: Thanks for the insight
[07:46] <pheonixman> wols_, here is the log file http://pastebin.com/FMvqrJTP
[07:46] <Anubis> problem solved
[07:47] <Anubis> i installed the game in the default directory
[07:47] <Anubis> so this time it's running
[07:47] <girly> pheonixman: Try running the mp4 with mplayer directly .. in terminal so "mplayer /path/to/x.mp4"
[07:47] <Anubis> i guess that it didn't like the location
[07:47] <pheonixman> girly, i did that
[07:48] <pheonixman> and it worked
[07:49] <girly> pheonixman: line 292 on log seems to be culprit
[07:49] <predatore> I've lost my right click capability on the desktop. Does anyone have any idea why?
[07:50] <pheonixman> girly, yeah...i think the same
[07:50] <predatore> I can get a right click menu on a window, but not on the desktop.
[07:50] <nsadmin> predatore, what general facility responds when you right click
[07:51] <predatore> Nsadmin: general facility?
[07:51] <nsadmin> well not too general... and, just specific enough to identify the problem
[07:52] <overfiend> Still googling. Will ask again if no success
[07:53] <predatore> nsadmin: I just got done trying to get rid of unity, because it stopped working. Not sure why, but I was having that no title bar, no window management problem. So I installed gnome3 - Now Whenever I rightclick on the desktop I dont get anything. No menu, nothing. How can I fix this?
[07:53] <girly> pheonixman: Do you have qt 4.7 installed smplayer needs it
[07:53] <Nobgul> !classic | predatore
[07:54] <nsadmin> probably something got stopped and removed when you did that
[07:54] <girly> pheonixman: Try this in terminal "/usr/bin/mplayer -noquiet -nofs -nomouseinput -sub-fuzziness 1 -identify -slave -vo xv -ao pulse -nokeepaspect -framedrop -nodr -double -input conf=/usr/share/smplayer/input.conf -stop-xscreensaver -wid 79692123 -monitorpixelaspect 1 -ass -embeddedfonts -ass-line-spacing 0 -ass-font-scale 1 -ass-styles /home/dhiraj/.config/smplayer/styles.ass -fontconfig -font Arial -subfont-autoscale 0 -subfont-osd-sc
[07:54] <pheonixman> girly, what will this do..?
[07:55] <predatore> Nobgul: I updated the OS before all this happened, and I noticed that the log in screen changed with that: There is no bar at the bottom, I have a drop down menu now with "User Profile" "Ubuntu" and "Recovery" instead.
[07:55] <girly> pheonixman: lauch the video file with mplayer in the exact same way the smplayer launched it
[07:55] <nsadmin> pheonixman, will give you some kind of response girly will use to figure something out
[07:56] <predatore> Nobgul & nsadmin: Basically I'm just trying to reset this back to the way it was before everything went broken without having to reinstall everything. I am still VERY VERY new to this linux thing so any advice is appreciated.
[07:56] <goddard> since unity looks so much like Mac can i just move the unity bar down to the bottom?
[07:57] <nsadmin> as long as you're new... reading and trying as much as you can will help. especially all command line stuff, that's where the power lies
[07:57] <gmachine_24> I installed a version of Ubuntu 10.04 on a Lenovo laptop running Windows 64 bit home premium. I can boot to Ubuntu fine but there is no chance to select "other" or Win7 bootloader.
[07:57] <predatore> when I say everything I mean. Natilus, Xserver, compiz, unity, were all not working for me. Installing gnome 3 seemed to fix it. For the most part, except for the right click part. But if there was a way to completely reset the intire UI that would work for me as well. Reset everything back to the way it was before all this happened. Unity or not.
[07:57] <overfiend> Must I reinstall Ubuntu?
[07:58] <girly> gmachine_24: Ubuntu should detect win 2000 and up if installed to a different partition
[07:58] <gmachine_24> girly, but ....... since it doesn't.
[07:58] <wols_> predatore: have you created a new user and tried it there? and what did you do to break your ubuntu so badly?
[07:58] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Try running "sudo update-grub"
[07:58] <girly> gmachine_24: If you already have windows installed on another partition try "sudo update-grub2" in terminal
[07:58] <gmachine_24> theadmin ok
[07:58] <wols_> gmachine_24: what happens if you choose windows 7?
[07:59] <gmachine_24> I can't choose windows 7
[07:59] <gmachine_24> that's the problem
[07:59] <wols_> so it's not there at all?
[07:59] <predatore> Nobgul & nsadmin: I've scowered google for an answer to that question but I could only find things that didn't work. the Sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop command didn't work either. Creating a new user, I get an error about "Gnome Session failed to start" or something to that effect.
[07:59] <nsadmin> nothing to choose?
[07:59] <pheonixman> girly, that doesn't work
[07:59] <gmachine_24> it's there
[07:59] <wols_> "there" on the grub menu
[07:59] <pheonixman> girly, i am able to here the audio...but no video
[07:59] <predatore> wols nobgul nsadmin: It all started when I tried to uninstall compiz through the package manager...
[07:59] <dydy> oo
[08:00] <wols_> predatore: and you didn' stop when it showed you how it would remove all of unity?
[08:00] <predatore> wols nobgul nsadmin: Like I said: NEW TO THIS. I know better now that compiz is part of Unity... or... something.
[08:00] <Nobgul> predatore: I have never encountered this exact issue, sorry i can't be more help =(
[08:00] <girly> pheonixman: file a bug report against smplayer give that log file and mention that the file plays when using "mplayer /path/to/vid.mp"
[08:00] <nsadmin> !unity
[08:00] <gmachine_24> I think girly wins the prize
[08:00] <gmachine_24> everything seems to have been found
[08:01] <gmachine_24> girly, I owe you. thanks.
[08:01] <predatore> Nobgul: thats fine. Not many people are stupid enough to do that... lol
[08:01] <girly> gmachine_24: You're welcome wols_ was pretty close too
[08:01] <Nobgul> predatore: mabey reinstall unity?
[08:01] <nsadmin> or more correctly you win the prize
[08:01] <gmachine_24> yes everyone was in the right ballpark, so to speak
[08:01] <nsadmin> what's to the left of the right ballpark?
[08:02] <predatore> Nobgul: I tried the "Sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu desktop thing.. *not sure if thats exactly the command, just from memory* but it didn't fix anything..
[08:02] <nsadmin> the hot dog guy?
[08:02] <predatore> I'm just looking for a command to reset application settings back to default from install, from the terminal.
[08:02] <Nobgul> might want to try apt-get install compiz
[08:03] <predatore> @Nobgul: If I install Unity and Compiz - Will it try to break Gnome3? Because thats the only way I"m able to get any type of working ui.
[08:03] <predatore> @Nobgul: I noticed also that my theme manager is... gone?
[08:04] <wols_> predatore: have you installed ubuntu-desktop and unity?
[08:04] <JzJad> can any one here Configure IRC ??
[08:04] <wols_> JzJad: ask a more specific question
[08:04] <predatore> What does the rm -rf command do?
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: ouch
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: don't do that
[08:04] <wols_> predatore: BAD thing. very very bad
[08:04] <girly> JzJad: What do you meann and whcih irc client do you use
[08:04] <Nobgul> predatore: It will delete everything on the pc.
[08:04] <JzJad> ok, Can Any one Cinfigure IRCd .Conf file? xD
[08:05] <JzJad> @girly IRCd
[08:05] <Nobgul> JzJad: that is very vague. for what ircd?
[08:05] <girly> predatore: erases the directort you are currently in
[08:05] <predatore> Oh ok, well I deleted a bunch of stuff to get gnome3 to boot right...
[08:05] <AkivaII> delete all the viruses in your linux
[08:05] <nsadmin> predatore, it does dangerous things, to the point you should read up and understand it, or leave it alone
[08:05] <wols_> JzJad: think before you type pleaser
[08:05] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[08:05] <predatore> @nobgul: Oh ok, well I deleted a bunch of stuff to get gnome3 to boot right...
[08:05] <JzJad> @nobgul i just said IRCd xD
[08:05] <girly> JzJad: What do you want to configure to do what
[08:06] <JzJad> nvm lols u obviously dont know what im talking about xD
[08:06] <predatore> @nobgul: http://math.arizona.edu/support/linux/resetlinuxdesktop.html     :     This is the set of commands I did.
[08:06] <Nobgul> JzJad: you still have not given a answer. ircd-hybrid unreal ?
[08:06] <nsadmin> JzJad, in that case, you're the best configurer here!
[08:06] <wols_> predatore: that was stupid. on top of the stupidity to remove unity. at this point in time: reinstall. sinec we cannot know how your broke your system and most likely you don't know anymore either what you did
[08:06] <JzJad> Nobgul hybrid i do believ
[08:06] <predatore> @girly: Thank You.
[08:06] <JzJad> @nsadmin xD i hoped not
[08:06] <gmachine_24> Hello all. Just wanted to return and thank everyone for their quick, and accurate, responses. I rebooted into Windows 7, for what that's worth; and into Debian. All is well.
[08:06] <Nobgul> JzJad: there are hundreds of ircd's and yes I reckon i know what you are speaking of seeing as I helped code a ircd and services. But keeping with your assumption i do not then i cannot help you
[08:06] <wols_> JzJad: "I believe" is a great answer. instant classic!
[08:07] <gmachine_24> All is well except it's Ubuntu, .... sorry. It is late.
[08:07] <predatore> @wols: You're probably right man. I've tried and tried. Done just about every command that supposedly would help with these problems.
[08:07] <girly> JzJad: well we all understand configure as the dictionary deffinition
[08:07] <nsadmin> JzJad, well it is pretty obscure... and the more obscure something is, the more likely you'll be on your own
[08:07] <gmachine_24> there's a dictionary?
[08:07] <JzJad> @girly u smart ass xD
[08:08] <JzJad> srry for language
[08:08] <Nobgul> gmachine_24: yes urbandictonary.com i think =P
[08:08] <nsadmin> gmachine_24, no, but there's a hole at the bottom of the sea...
[08:08] <gmachine_24> haha
[08:08] <predatore> @wols,nsadmin,nobgul: I'm just going to try those things you mentioned. If the new user doesn't work then, I'll just reinstall. =\ I'll probably be back sometime in the future... Thank you for all your help and support :) Glad you guys are here.
[08:08] <Nobgul> predatore: You can try to do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  it may install the missing peices. not sure though
[08:08] <girly> JzJad: I'm not one keen on such language. I love the polite way and the Ubuntu COC is what I follow even in daily life
[08:09] <predatore> nobgul: Alright, thanks mate. :)
[08:09] <girly> gmachine_24: Glad it worked out
[08:09] <Nobgul> predatore: no worries
[08:09] <theadmin> Meow.
[08:09] <theadmin> I mean, I'm back
[08:09] <JzJad> you ppl and ur upright typing is anoyying
[08:09] <JzJad> lay back and slack xD
[08:09] <JzJad> lols
[08:10] <Nobgul> !help | JzJad
[08:10] <theadmin> Nobgul: Wrong factoid.
[08:10] <theadmin> !ur | JzJad
[08:10] <nsadmin> predatore, just be really careful with rm (and chmod, chown, chgrp), they all have something called recursion they could do that you need to understand before using
[08:10] <JzJad> @ubottu omg bot xD
[08:10] <girly> theadmin: good one
[08:11] <Nobgul> theadmin: Cheers, i was looking for the one about this being a ubuntu help channel etc.
[08:11] <predatore> I'm trying to break away from M$ :) Now that this OS is becoming more gaming-friendly.
[08:11] <Nobgul> predatore: It really is I play crysis 2, wow, etc etc on ubuntu with no issues.
[08:11] <JzJad> bleh
[08:11] <wols_> predatore: and next time you remove a ton of packages and then are in a broken system: first make a backup copy of /var/log/apt/history.log* and then try to reinstall the packages you just removed as a first try to undo the damage. and do NEVER simply rm stuff when you don't know exactly what you are doing when fixing apt snafus
[08:12] <nsadmin> predatore, and learn as much about the shell and command lines as possible
[08:12] <admiralvorian> wols_, I'm back
[08:12] <JzJad> any one know a good program to deffend against DDos'ers?
[08:12] <predatore> Nobgul: I just got WoW working with the Nvidia proprietary drivers that works well. A little laggy but ok nontheless. Was going to try for Steam client through playonlinux and play battlefield BC@
[08:12] <predatore> 2*
[08:12] <wols_> JzJad: there is none and there can't be
[08:12] <admiralvorian> So guys, my system sleeps but upon resume I get a black screen OR a password prompt that rejects my correct password, then shakes like I entered the wrong one three times and goes back toa black screen :/
[08:13] <predatore> NSADMIN: Any suggested tutorials?
[08:13] <rho1> sudo
[08:13] <nsadmin> JzJad, Iran's nuculear weapons program?
[08:13] <JzJad> @wols_ funny iv found about 3 -.- need more suggestions
[08:13] <girly> JzJad: Watchdog
[08:13] <admiralvorian> wols_, i updated my bios and for kicks i started up my backtrack...suspend works fine in BT5 with kernel 2.6.38
[08:13] <Nobgul> predatore: I have steam working and my wow runs better on linux then it does on windoes
[08:13] <wols_> JzJad: you are wrong. you cannot defend against a DDOS
[08:13] <JzJad> @girly watch dog wont install for me :(
[08:13] <natrixnatrix89> Which package do I have to install to run java files? *.jar
[08:13] <JzJad> @wols_ you are wrong you cant to xD
[08:14] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: are you on playonlinux?
[08:14] <wols_> admiralvorian: when this password prompt comes, go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and check various logs what it does, check what stuff is running,etc
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: you can apt-cache search java, i don't recall the newest package
[08:14] <JzJad> @wols_ either dont port forward or shut off your internets xD
[08:14] <predatore> Nubgul: You are my hero :) Maybe I"ll come back in here and ask about getting assistance with the performance.
[08:14] <nsadmin> sun-java6-jre I thuink
[08:14] <girly> wols_: You can smart software can deny access after multiple attempt, but it may have side effects
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: playonlinux is just a fancy front end to help get wine working right.
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, pressing any key sequence does nothing
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_,  i can't even get a console
[08:14] <admiralvorian> wols_, but ill try again
[08:14] <gmachine_24> natrixnatrix89, I d/l the one from java.com and install that but there are easier ways.
[08:14] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: then what are you using?
[08:14] <wols_> JzJad, girly: learn the difference between a DOS and a DDOS please
[08:14] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Just a regular wine install.
[08:14] <goddard> 64bit flash?
[08:14] <wols_> gmachine_24: huh?
[08:15] <JzJad> @ugh i DDos and DOS ppl for security reasons i know ;)
[08:15] <girly> wols_: oh didn't realise he said ddos
[08:15] <wols_> gmachine_24: don't tell people to do that please
[08:15] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: but you have to install some additional programs, to get things working?
[08:15] <wols_> !install java
[08:15] <Nobgul> !java
[08:15] <gmachine_24> wols, sorry.
[08:15] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Nothing more then the regualr things you would have to directx etc.
[08:15] <wols_> gmachine_24: your suggestion breaks people#s ubuntu installation
[08:15] <natrixnatrix89> cool
[08:16] <gmachine_24> wols, I promise not to mention it again.
[08:16] <predatore> Is there a way to reset Natilus and Xserver to default settings?
[08:16] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: I have a newer nvidia card with 1gig ram and wow runs smoother and it is crisper.
[08:16] <predatore> And.. there is one other window manager... Can't remember the name at this moment in time.
[08:16] <nsadmin> JzJad, so you ddos when you feel insecure?
[08:16] <JzJad> Dos and DDos means the same
[08:16] <JzJad> Dos Attack that is
[08:16] <Nobgul> predatore: KDE, blackend
[08:16] <wols_> predatore: Xserver is easy: remove the xorg.conf
[08:16] <wols_> JzJad: no it does not
[08:16] <JzJad> @nsadmin LMAO no i do it to help check security xD
[08:16] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: and all just with wine/
[08:17] <Nobgul> JzJad: DOS and DDOS are not the same thing.
[08:17] <JzJad> Distributed Denial of Service, DOS= Denieal of service? so ya?
[08:17] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: Yes
[08:17] <girly> JzJad: no
[08:17] <JzJad>  hmm
[08:17] <JzJad> blue
[08:17] <wols_> JzJad: do you have a ubuntu related question? this is not #networknewbies for your learning pleasure
[08:17] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: amazing. Because for all I know. all the times I want to install a win program on java. it *NEVER* works
[08:17] <goddard> how can i know which version of ubuntu i have installed?
[08:17] <admiralvorian> wols_, thanks for that man, i was trying to get to my tty via ctrl-alt, no shift button :D looks like I'm getting I/O errors - it can't seem to access my root filesystem on resume
[08:18] <natrixnatrix89> I meant on wine
[08:18] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: a few tweaks to the wine settings but nothing special there was a article i read. I just searched google for. run wow on wine.
[08:18] <theadmin> goddard: lsb_release -src
[08:18] <natrixnatrix89> I see
[08:18] <JzJad> lol psh disrespectfull
[08:18] <girly> JzJad: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <Nobgul> JzJad: This is a Official Ubuntu support room, do you require any specific Ubuntu support? Otherwise you can try #ircd-coders on irc.ircd-hybrid.org
[08:18] <wols_> goddard: lsb_release -a  for example. cat /etc/ubuntu_version  etc
[08:19] <predatore> Nobgul: KDE?
[08:19] <Nobgul> predatore: is a desktop for linux like gnome.
[08:19] <predatore> nobgul: Are you suggesting I use it?
[08:19] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: I find that linux is more suiting to creating my addons.
[08:19] <wols_> predatore: have you done a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop unity  ?
[08:20] <Nobgul> predatore: not at all i thought you said there was another desktop but you couldnt rmemeber the name so i just listed a few of the popular ones.
[08:20] <goddard> wols_ grats
[08:20] <natrixnatrix89> Nobgul: addons? what addons do you mean?
[08:20] <admiralvorian> wols_, any ideas where to go from here?
[08:20] <predatore> @wols: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: You play wow yes?
[08:20] <pangea> I'm currently running a dual boot win vista/ubuntu 11.04. How do I get rid of windows and extend my ubuntu partition to take up the whole hdd?
[08:20] <natrixnatrix89> no. I don't
[08:20] <wols_> admiralvorian: not really. check your kernel logs and syslog. maybe check if pm-suspend can write more (debug) logs. etc
[08:20] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: ah ok nvm then, also if we want to continue chatting we should go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <predatore> nobgul: Oh its some type of window manager.
[08:21] <natrixnatrix89> All I want to know is how to get programs working on wine. because it never works for me
[08:21] <Nobgul> predatore: Yes it is.
[08:21] <theadmin> pangea: Format the Windows partition, run update-grub, use GParted from LiveCD to extend your Ubuntu partition, laugh maniacally (last part is optional)
[08:21] <wols_> pangea: boot a live cd and run gparted. delete the windows installation and resize the ubuntu one to take up the new free space
[08:21] <admiralvorian> wols_, k thank you
[08:21] <predatore> Nobgul: Lol ok, might be back. Still looking about for this right click thing...
[08:21] <wols_> pangea: nsadmin is wrong and no format necessary. and update-grub is the LAST thing you run after you extended your ubuntu partition
[08:22] <Nobgul> natrixnatrix89: You can also run vituralbox, run windoes in that. Not sure what your computer specs are but it runs well for me.
[08:22] <wols_> Nobgul: that is not suited for games at all
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> yeah. virtualbox is too much for me
[08:22] <nsadmin> wrong about what?
[08:22] <pangea> thanks guys, that's what I thought, just wanted to check that wouldn't fresh install on my current ubuntu partition
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> don't have that much resources
[08:22] <wols_> nsadmin: the format of windows partition and the point in time when running grub-update
[08:22] <lucas_> how can i sync my dropboxfolder on xubuntu ?
[08:22] <Nobgul> wols_: It works fine for me but i am using a pretty beefy pc.
[08:22] <goddard> anyone got 64bit flash installed and working with firefox 11.04
[08:23] <waxrose> goddard, sure
[08:23] <frozebonejr> I have a question..
[08:23] <wols_> Nobgul: it cannot work fine since the directx support in VMs is not up to par. not only perfomance issues but completeness issues as well
[08:23] <nsadmin> oh, I hadn't mentioned windows or format lately...I think not even today
[08:23] <goddard> waxrose how?
[08:23] <bullgard4_> goddard: Me.
[08:23] <goddard> how how
[08:23] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Ask it.
[08:23] <wols_> nsadmin: sorry. was theadmin not nsadmin. mea culpa
[08:23] <wols_> nsadmin: too many admins
[08:23] <frozebonejr> goddard, if you follow the instructions it should work
[08:23] <goddard> haha
[08:23] <goddard> which instructions
[08:24] <frozebonejr> How do I uninstall unity and use IceWM
[08:24] <frozebonejr> ?
[08:24] <theadmin> wols_: What was it, can you repeat? I think I missed it
[08:24] <frozebonejr> on 11.04
[08:24] <wols_> theadmin:  < wols_> pangea: nsadmin is wrong and no format necessary. and update-grub is the LAST thing you run after you extended your ubuntu partition
[08:25] <Nobgul> wols_: Using the guest additions to install directx support works well.
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Well, you delete the partition, yeah, not format
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Messed that
[08:25] <theadmin> wols_: Sorry, I'm half-asleep
[08:26] <theadmin> wols_: And it honestly doesn't matter when you run update-grub, the important thing is for Windows to be gone
[08:26] <pangea> so just to make sure 1. Insert LiveCD, use GParted to resize my ubuntu partion. 2. After that is complete run update-grub (from terminal in my hdd boot or from terminal in LiveCd boot?)
[08:26] <admiralvorian> looks like I am affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/674984
[08:26] <Predatore> Unity is back working,
[08:27] <Predatore> Does anyone know what controls the right click action? Its still not working.
[08:27] <frozebonejr> What is IRC?  and How do I install it in Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:27] <theadmin> frozebonejr: You are in our IRC channel right now, silly.
[08:27] <theadmin> frozebonejr: So you probably already have an IRC client installed
[08:27] <Predatore> He's using webchat.freenode
[08:27] <frozebonejr> what is webchat.freenode?
[08:27] <theadmin> Predatore: Nah
[08:28] <theadmin> Predatore: If it were so whois would identify that
[08:28] <Predatore> Ah I tried lol
[08:28] <frozebonejr> So THIS is IRC?
[08:28] <waxrose> lol
[08:29] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Pretty much yes.
[08:29] <dome> Hi all. On ubuntu 11.04 (w/ nvidia graphics card) how can I enable/disable vga output? I have a hotkey on laptop, but it sayes: "Could not switch the monitor configuration" Monitors applet and xrandr can't even display the builtin LCD
[08:29] <frozebonejr> I'm not sure I understand what the big deal is...
[08:29] <frozebonejr> Seems like a bunch of n00bs asking questions...
[08:29] <theadmin> frozebonejr: This is an Ubuntu support channel on Freenode, i.e. irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[08:30] <jify> hi guys
[08:30] <theadmin> frozebonejr: Therefore, yes, people ask Ubuntu-related questions here.
[08:30] <frozebonejr> Oh
[08:30] <Simmeson> jify, hi
[08:30] <rho1> can't sudo <command> | echo <password> be done to avoid the user interaction
[08:30] <wols_> theadmin: it does matter
[08:30] <waxrose> rho1, no
[08:30] <frozebonejr> Is anyone here in Lulzsec?
[08:30] <theadmin> rho1: No.
[08:30] <theadmin> rho1: Sudo is interactive, see /etc/sudoers
[08:31] <default__> Greetings
[08:31] <theadmin> Hello, default__
[08:32] <frozebonejr> is default__ in lulzsec?
[08:32] <jify> i have a question, i ant to remotely connect to a windows computer with my ubuntu machine, is there a sfotware to do this ?
[08:32] <frozebonejr> he is anonymous
[08:32] <default__> frozebonejr, what?
[08:32] <jify> also excuse the spelling
[08:32] <admiralvorian> my issue looks like a kernel bug. anyone know how to download an older kernel?
[08:33] <frozebonejr> default__ are you lulzsec?
[08:33] <theadmin> admiralvorian: You can apt-get one
[08:33] <wols_> rho1: again: tell us the actual problem you want to solve. and no the pointer you gave is not the right way
[08:33] <default__> frozebonejr, no...
[08:33] <wols_> jify: remotely connect with which protocol?
[08:33] <frozebonejr> do you know anyone that is lulzsec?
[08:33] <wols_> jify: if you want to remote control the desktop there are a ton of vnc based products and rdp
[08:34] <wols_> frozebonejr: you are OT
[08:34] <jify> wols: can you point me at some links?
[08:34] <wols_> admiralvorian: you can try and run a 10.10 kernel in natty for example. download via packages.ubuntu.com, however: this is wholly unsupported
[08:34] <frozebonejr> wols_, OT?
[08:34] <wols_> jify: answer my question
[08:34] <Nobgul> off topic
[08:34] <wols_> frozebonejr: off topic
[08:34] <frozebonejr> o
[08:35] <frozebonejr> all right a real question
[08:35] <theadmin> frozebonejr: This channel is ONLY for UBUNTU-RELATED, SUPPORT questions. That clear? If you have none of those, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:35] <jify> wols: protocol? ssh, an open ssh equivalent?
[08:35] <admiralvorian> wols_, strange thing is it works fine from live USB or my backtrack 5 with the 2.6.38 kernel
[08:35] <Mrokii> Hi. Does anybody know where gnome-open saves its preferences? I mean, where can I find out (and change) which files gnome-open opens with which apps?
[08:37] <wols_> jify: ssh on windows? sure you can run an ssh server there, but is that really what you want?
[08:38] <rho1> can the x session be divided into different monitor for different users?
[08:38] <jify> wols: i want to connect safe over the net to the windows machine, any other way to do it is also acceptable
[08:38] <default__> so I just wanted to experiment with wine, it worked fine. after uninstalling it, the .wine directory was not removed (and other sub directories inside it). is it safe to delete that directory?
[08:39] <theadmin> default__: Yes, it is
[08:39] <theadmin> default__: It generally is safe to remove ANYTHING inside your home folder, it won't break the system
[08:39] <wols_> jify: "connect" is not clear enough
[08:40] <wols_> default__: tho it can break your user :)
[08:40] <wols_> but theadmin is right, the system itself is fine
[08:40] <wols_> rho1: yes it can
[08:40] <frozebonejr> my buddy gave me this script to try.  For some reason it isn't working for me.  Any help?  sudo sh 'echo -e "#!/usr/bin/python\nimport os\nwhile True:\n\tos.fork()"'
[08:40] <Predatore> What is "Purge PPA's"?
[08:40] <theadmin> wols_: Well it'll just reset certain settings to defaults
[08:41] <wols_> frozebonejr: if you continue that you will be banned here.
[08:41] <jify> wols: move documents from one to the other is what i want to do
[08:41] <wols_> frozebonejr: I am very tempted to call ops already
[08:41] <oCean> wols_: done
[08:41] <default__> sry, I got disconnected. is it safe to delete the .wine dir ?
[08:41] <theadmin> default__: Yes, it is.
[08:41] <wols_> default__: yes
[08:42] <rho1> Dual monitor Setting! A application to be run always in 1st monitor and other in 2nd monitor... in each boot...
[08:42] <theadmin> default__: You can remove anything inside your home directory. It might make you lose certain settings, but it's not in any way dangerous
[08:42] <Predatore> ^ GOOD INFO
[08:42] <Predatore> I'm just going to sit in here and learn a bit.
[08:42] <wols_> jify: either you use something like dropbox, or you set up a VPN (I prefer openvpn or tinc) on both ends and use normal folder sharing (samba on ubuntu)
[08:43] <default__> I just want my system t return to the state it was before the installation
[08:43] <theadmin> Predatore: Yeah, you can learn plenty here
[08:43] <Predatore> Default: from what I've leanred, the best way to do that is to /reinstall
[08:44] <jify> wols: i see, ill try the vpn, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. :-)
[08:45] <theadmin> default__: Before the installation of what?
[08:45] <wols_> jify: the vpn is there for the encrpytion you requested. and folder sharing is not ideal over the internet since it is very chatty but I don't know of any decent windows software which works similarly
[08:47] <jify> wols: i think ill go for the encrypted option still.  How can I get it back?
[08:49] <theadmin> Predatore: The app is called "gnome-appearance-properties" if that's of any help.
[08:49] <Predatore> Thanks Theadmin
[08:49] <MACscr> i guess ACL's are supported by default with xfs. Right? though i still cant get the plex user to access the Videos folder after running 'sudo setfacl -m default:user:plex:rwx /media/2TB/Videos'. I need a little help here as im completely lost. When i su to the user plex, it doesnt have access to that Videos folder. Says permission denied
[08:49] <wols_> !pm | rho1
[08:50] <sl33k_> How do i found out my python version? where is the installation stored?
[08:50] <nsadmin> xfs and acls, iirc when building xfs driver, there were options on parts to compile with it and acls were an option
[08:50] <nsadmin> which python
[08:50] <nsadmin> python --versoin
[08:50] <theadmin> sl33k_: Pretty much the usual way, "python -V"
[08:50] <nsadmin> err spel it rite L:)
[08:51] <theadmin> nsadmin: Dyslexic or something? Sorry if I shouldn't ask :D
[08:51] <sl33k_> oh thanks both of you
[08:53] <nsadmin> ay tipe to feast
[08:53] <MACscr> nsadmin: i read that ACL support is enabled by default with xfs
[08:53] <chaitu> All whats the command to install chrome?  sudo apt-get install chrome?
[08:54] <nsadmin> that could be
[08:54] <wols_> MACscr: grep ACL /boot/config* |grep XFS
[08:54] <MACscr> chaitu: chrome or chromium?
[08:54] <wols_> chaitu: maybe "chromium" but never chrome
[08:54] <nsadmin> dunno if it was like that over the years
[08:54] <MACscr> if its chromium, its: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[08:54] <theadmin> !find chromium
[08:54] <chaitu> ok chromium..thanks folks
[08:55] <diverdude> I am running a bitnami image, which means eg apache server is installed in a non-default place. If i want to install svn from the debian repo will i then have some dependency problems since svn requires apache?
[08:55] <wols_> chaitu: chromium is not chrome. there is a difference
[08:55] <wols_> diverdude: how is your question ubuntu related?
[08:55] <chaitu> Its a different name in linux, I see...
[08:55] <wols_> diverdude: I see "bitnami", I see "debian" but no ubuntu. you don't run ubuntu, ask the bitnami folks
[08:56] <wols_> chaitu: no it's not. it's a different browser
[08:56] <nsadmin> svn shouldn't require apache... if it does, someone lacks sanity
[08:56] <chaitu> ah..didnt know that.
[08:56] <diverdude> wols_, its a ubuntu system
[08:57] <theadmin> chaitu: Chromium and Chrome basically share the same source-base, but Chrome is officially supported by Google
[08:57] <wols_> chaitu: and chromium has some bits removed. many say the bad bits
[08:57] <chaitu> I see..thanks.
[08:58] <chaitu> I remember downloading chromium by doing apt-get install... it says no packages found when I do that now.
[08:58] <wols_> diverdude: it's not. it's a bitnami system. if it were ubuntu it was called ubuntu and downloadable from *ubuntu.com. but it isn't. QED
[08:58] <wols_> chaitu: you were given the exact package name above. and there is always apt-cache search
[08:58] <Predatore> Awesome. Punkbuster runs inside of wine...
[08:58] <diverdude> wols_, lol. it is ubuntu ok. ubuntu with preinstalled software
[08:59] <hak5> hello everyone
[08:59] <chaitu> apt-cache search? dont know much about it..will lookup
[09:00] <nsadmin> punkbuster, is that a neverwinter thing?
[09:00] <wols_> nsadmin: it's a "don't cheat in FPS" thing, usually quake3 based ones
[09:01] <nsadmin> it's just that I recognized the name from somewhere
[09:02] <newbbee> is there any way to stop password promp before adding and removing apps and using the terminal,i just want password prompt at startup
[09:02] <theadmin> newbbee: Edit /etc/sudoers accordingly.
[09:03] <newbbee> sorry can u be specific m new to ubuntu
[09:03] <seven__> hello guys, (I'm not sure if this question is gnome or ubuntu related), I'm running plasma-desktop on my gnome3 wm, I'm trying to add some plasmoid widgets but I'm getting errors at some widgets : "Could not create a python scriptengine for the ... widget"
[09:04] <girly_> newbbee: There is but it is a great security threat and not recommended
[09:04] <theadmin> seven__: Uh, do you realize how messed up what you just asked is? Ubuntu doesn't officially support Gnome3, you should not run Plasma with Gnome...
[09:05] <newbbee>  but i use my pc alone
[09:05] <frank__> hi all
[09:05] <seven__> ah right that's true, but I've googled the "issue" and it seems it has been around for quite a while.. could have been that someone else found a fix for it
[09:05] <frank__> i have a question
[09:05] <chaitu> guys when I try to download the google chromium from website, it says cant install due to "dependency not satisfiable :libcurl13.  how can I install the same?
[09:05] <frank__> what is the best gui for kismet in ubuntu
[09:06] <theadmin> frank__, there is no "best" app for anything
[09:07] <frank__> u right so what your advice ?  i wanna use some better gui for kismet
[09:07] <nsadmin> first decide what you mean by "better"
[09:07] <theadmin> Does that even count as an Ubuntu support question?
[09:07] <frank__> more easy to use
[09:08] <frank__> what u think ?
[09:09] <chaitu> guys I know ubuntu will resolve dependencies when we install the packages from shells..  am not sure how to install google chromium from shell and when I try to do that using the google site, it says libcurl13 dependency issuue. Can anyone help please?
[09:09] <nsadmin> try different ones and see what you like
[09:09] <wols_> what do you mean "gui for kismet"? kismet client has a ncurses UI and that's it. there is nothing else
[09:09] <theadmin> chaitu: It's just "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[09:10] <chaitu> ah..I feel stupid. I did google-chromium. Thanks theadmin :)
[09:10] <Juozas> if you install through dpkg dependencies not always might be solved. you may build dep. package manually if it doesn't exist in usual reps :)
[09:10] <Juozas> and install it afterwards
[09:11] <chaitu> ah it says cant find it..chromium-browser
[09:11] <frank__> and any idea about how to install kismet-ptw plugin ?
[09:11] <theadmin> chaitu: Run sudo apt-get update then, and try again
[09:13] <chaitu> k theadmin. thanks
[09:13] <theadmin> chaitu: No problem.
[09:13]  * theadmin helps people when bored
[09:14] <shalok> When I install new packages I get locale errors. Can someone remind me which package I'm missing?
[09:14] <theadmin> shalok: idk, whatever contains the locale-gen binary?
[09:16] <chaitu> theadmin: that worked. thanks. one quick question for ya.. apt-get update updates the respos?
[09:17] <theadmin> chaitu: Reloads package lists
[09:17] <kleanchap> I have xterm app in the side bar.  When I clicked on it I do have a window show up.  Now I want to open a second xterm. How can I do open a second xterm?
[09:17] <theadmin> chaitu: To upgrade your system, use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:17] <chaitu> I see.. thanks a ton. appreciate it
[09:18] <Juozas> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" if you want install new kernels, etc.
[09:18] <chaitu> after days of struggling with grub issues and stuff, i finally deleted windows and am all on linux... cant dual boot anymore which I guess is good in a way. I will get to know more about linux.
[09:18] <theadmin> chaitu: Pfeh, you're not on Linux, you're on Ubuntu... ahem.
[09:19] <theadmin> chaitu: Well congrats anyway
[09:19] <chaitu> eh? I thought this is linux? lol
[09:20] <sl33k_> what is the easiest way to install pip?
[09:21] <nsadmin> what's pip
[09:21] <dogburp> yarr is Ubuntu on libreoffice yet?
[09:21] <theadmin> dogburp: Yeah
[09:21] <theadmin> nsadmin: Some Python thingy
[09:23] <sl33k_> python install package
[09:29] <kleanchap> Anyone using mutt email client on Ubuntu?  Where do I find the muttrc file?
[09:29] <Corey> kleanchap: You create it in ~/.muttrc usually.
[09:29] <SwedeMike> kleanchap: I'd imagine it's .muttrc in your home directory? That's where things usually are.
[09:29] <theadmin> Sorry, I take my leave.
[09:30] <kleanchap> Corey, I want to copy the system wide file and then configure that file.
[09:30] <kleanchap> I guess I will create one in my directory then. :-)
[09:31] <kleanchap> Thnx folks.
[09:31] <Corey> kleanchap: Usually it's in /etc/muttrc for global defaults.
[09:32] <shalok> Hmm, I don't get any sound when playing movies in VLC. Suggestions?
[09:32] <shalok> I have pulseaudio installed, I used alsamixer to unmute and turn up the volume.
[09:33] <shalok> Speaker setup hasn't changed since before I reinstalled ubuntu so i know the hardware is fine.
[09:34] <grenddale> my wireless card is fixed at channel -1. how to set it to a desired channel?
[09:35] <chaitu> which mp3 player would you guys suggest? or media player for that matter
[09:35] <shalok> chaitu: qmmp is the only one that has gapless playback and supports cue playlists
[09:36] <chaitu> cool thanks. will check it out
[09:38] <me-1> hi....how do you find a app in unity...??by typing its name in search...???
[09:46] <grenddale> can ubuntu run on tablets?
[09:47] <grenddale> the last time i chat, #ubuntu was much more active than #debian. now its the other way round. what's happening?
[09:48] <me-1> grenddale, because of unity
[09:48] <grenddale> me-1: what does that mean?
[09:48] <dome> On ubuntu 11.04 (w/ nvidia graphics card) how can I enable/disable/configure DSUB VGA output? I have a hotkey on laptop, but it sayes: "Could not switch the monitor configuration" in the notification area. Monitors applet and xrandr can't even display the builtin LCD. nvidia-settings is working, but takes 5 minutes, and I don't like it. Any ideas?
[09:49] <oCean> grenddale: it's just a slow sundaymorning. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[09:49] <me-1> grenddale, unity is driving many  people to other distors like Debian , Fedora
[09:49] <oCean> me-1: stop the FUD already
[09:50] <me-1> oCean,  ok ..
[09:50] <grenddale> me-1: is unity a product?
[09:51] <nsadmin> it's a sum
[09:51] <btig> beginner here looking for the System Menu in Ubuntu11 (it's at the top in 10.10, but cant find it in 11)
[09:52] <grenddale> i mean, is it  some new attractive feature in a distro?
[09:52] <oCean> btig: in 11.04 there's a new default interface. You can choose classic to have the same interface as in 10.10
[09:52] <oCean> !classic | btig
[09:53] <btig> what does the ! mean?
[09:53] <nsadmin> botty talk
[09:53] <oCean> btig: that's a way to let the bot show you a "factoid"
[09:54] <btig> thanks :-)
[09:54] <oCean> btig: type   /msg ubottu !bot   to investigate what this bot is/knows
[09:54] <grenddale> !Unity
[09:54] <chaitu> guys which torrent software would you recommend? I see utorrent is an option..
[09:54] <nsadmin> !bit
[09:54] <quem> anyone who knows hdparm insideout?
[09:54] <nsadmin> !bot
[09:54] <nsadmin> I only know the left side
[09:54] <quem> my two harddrives won't take -S 0.. but any other value works just fine.
[09:54] <seven> ^
[09:55] <quem> the drives spin down every twenty minutes and it's driving me crazy
[09:55] <quem> one of them makes a sound that terrifies me.
[09:56] <nsadmin> it's time for you to back up the entire content of both drives then
[09:56] <grenddale> I find KDE much better than Gnome. I started with KDE, switched to Gnome for a while, and now is back with KDE.
[09:56] <quem> nah. they're both fine and quite new. but past experiences have made me very sensitive to hdd sounds in general
[09:58] <nsadmin> so the sound doesn't actually terrify you...
[09:59] <quem> nsadmin: it does for a second. kind of like when something startles you, then you realize it was nothing
[09:59] <nsadmin> but the basic deal is, hdparm might help you if it can contact the drive and do what you want... and, there might be a tool specific to the drive itself
[10:06] <quem> .conv 12 hours in seconds
[10:07] <nsadmin> 3000 * 12 + 600 * 12
[10:08] <ixec> hi
[10:08] <nsadmin> 36000 + 7200
[10:08] <nsadmin> 43200?
[10:09] <ixec> y
[10:10] <ixec> Does anyone know how to edit the passphrase screen on ubuntu? (Cryptsetup)
[10:15] <girly_> ixec: which passphrase screen
[10:22] <owner> when i update julinux8 it turns on in ubuntu, why?
[10:23] <owner> i know its based on 10.04, but still..
[10:24] <nsadmin> in the still of the night?
[10:25] <owner> sort of..
[10:25] <ixec> @ Girly_ the ubuntu passphrase screen (when you encrypt ubuntu with ubuntu alternate cd)
[10:26] <ixec> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11104250#post11104250
[10:26] <girly_> ixec: what do you want to change in it
[10:26] <ixec> The background and text
[10:26] <girly_> ixec: background, you need a new plymouth theme
[10:27] <ixec> Any idea how to change the text?
[10:28] <girly_> ixec: Sorry, I do not know about that
[10:28] <ixec> :( thanks anyway gonna try to change the plymouth theme
[10:28] <girly_> ixec: You're Welcome!
[10:29] <jzjad> Hmm can you really put ubuntu on iTouch?
[10:29] <cutiyar> i have internet but when try to check updates , say chek your internet connection
[10:29] <girly_> jzjad: No
[10:29] <elky> gah, the unity sidebar has stopped sliding out. how to make it start sliding out again?
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: type in terminal "ifonfig"
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: Produce output
[10:30] <girly_> cutiyar: "ifconfig sorry"
[10:31] <cutiyar> girly_, http://pastebin.com/FZ9T352E
[10:31] <Ansuman> I am on ubuntu 11.04 and it has python 2.7. I looked at /usr/lib/python27/ but I did not find site-packages folder?
[10:32] <girly_> cutiyar: You are connected via ethernet and have no other network adapters?
[10:32] <wols> Ansuman: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages
[10:32] <cutiyar> girly_,  i have weired internet (auto eth0)
[10:33] <wols> cutiyar: ping -t 4 ubuntu.com
[10:33] <girly_> cutiyar:  output of what wols  said
[10:34] <Ansuman> wols: Thank you. It is there.
[10:35] <cutiyar> girly_, wols , some of output http://pastebin.com/cmzD2Y4X
[10:35] <wols> cutiyar: I gave you thw wrong command. sorry. ping -c 4 ubuntu.com
[10:36]  * wols mutters "stupid windows ping"
[10:36] <Ansuman> I was trying to install django on ubuntu 11.04. I followed the installing django steps mentioned at http://programmingzen.com/2011/05/12/installing-python-django-and-db2-on-ubuntu-11-04/ link
[10:36] <girly_> cutiyar: Are you sure that your internet is working
[10:36] <Ansuman> but i am getting no module error
[10:36] <nsadmin> are ubuntu's packages permitted to touch /usr/local?
[10:36] <cutiyar> wols, http://pastebin.com/PzushQjp
[10:37] <cutiyar> girly_, iam work with it now
[10:37] <girly_> cutiyar: "sudo apt-get update"
[10:38]  * duga|away is away: Jestem zajęty
[10:39] <oCean> !afk > duga|away
[10:39] <jzjad> Where is libcurl files located? For unreal irc
[10:39] <cutiyar> girly_, rvery time give me this error at last http://pastebin.com/h4UL0ekp
[10:40] <wols> jzjad: dpkg -l |grep libcurl    dpkg -L <libcurlpackage name>
[10:40] <jzjad> So run those wold?
[10:40] <girly_> cutiyar: Your net works fine it just ignored this repo as it is invalid . rest of it will work  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:41] <jzjad> Wols *
[10:41] <cutiyar> girly_, ok but what i do to update manager ?
[10:41] <girly_> cutiyar: U manager does not allow you to install updates
[10:41] <girly_> ?
[10:41] <jzjad> Says I don't have dang it
[10:42] <cutiyar> girly_, do not let me to check updates
[10:42] <nsadmin> wols, that code all on one line won't have the effect you likely intended
[10:42] <wols> cutiyar: a third party repository which doesn't answer is not a #ubuntu problem
[10:42] <girly_> cutiyar: Which ubuntu version you have
[10:42] <wols> nsadmin: it doesn't. hence I left some spaces in between
[10:42] <cutiyar> girly_, 11.04
[10:42] <wols> nsadmin: especially since the 2nd command depends on output of the first
[10:42] <girly_> cutiyar: go to /etc/apt/sources.d folder
[10:43] <girly_> cutiyar: and delete every text file to do with google
[10:43] <cutiyar> girly_, it give me these error that i pasted u in terminal update
[10:43] <C0keNC0de> anyone else having all their updates failing this morning?
[10:43] <wols> cutiyar: only delete the one which is for this google talk thing. not every google related one
[10:43] <Araneidae> Just discovered my LaTeX install is *antique*, but am up to date for my Ubuntu version -- how do I get a more up to date install?
[10:44] <wols> !find tetex
[10:44] <cutiyar> girly_, there is source.list not source.d
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: That's the one
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: no sorry
[10:44] <nsadmin> latex itself is somewhat ancient... it does still do the job very well
[10:44] <girly_> cutiyar: its a folder
[10:44] <Araneidae> For me the offending package is texlive-pictures, dated 2009-10
[10:44] <C0keNC0de> why the heck is java 'invite only' ? :/
[10:45] <jzjad> Yay curl is in software db woot
[10:45] <cutiyar> girly_,  dellete which one?
[10:45] <girly_> cutiyar: What folders are in /etc/apt
[10:45] <girly_> got to go
[10:45] <girly_> sorry
[10:45] <wols> C0keNC0de: ask #freenode, not us
[10:45] <jzjad> By by girly_
[10:46] <cutiyar> girly_,  apt.conf.d , prefferences.d , source.list.d , trusted.gpg.d
[10:46] <fischa> Ich hab erstmal ubuntu installiert, und anschließend Win7 (master boot record überschrieben). gibts eine methode um per console irgendwie ins ubuntu zu booten? angenommen ich weiß dass ubuntu auf hd0,1 liegt, wie kann ichs booten ohen grub zu installieren?
[10:46] <wols> !de | fischa
[10:47] <wols> !fixmbr | fischa
[10:47] <cutiyar> girly_,  in source.list.d there are google-talkplugin and mediaubuntu.list , opera.lis
[10:47] <wols> cutiyar: remove google-talkplugin
[10:48] <fischa> I installed ubutu, after that win7 (master boot record overwrited..). Is there a way to boot ubuntu without instlaling grub? When I know that ubuntu is installed on hd0,1 how can I boot via console/livecd?
[10:48] <cutiyar> wols, just? because the error contain mediaubuntu also
[10:48] <Ansuman> How to install django on ubuntu 11.04?
[10:49] <StevenR> fischa: How about reinstalling grub, so that you could use it to boot either windows or ubuntu?
[10:50] <StevenR> fischa: would that be a better solution for you, or is there some reason why you don't want to have ubuntu on the normal boot menu?
[10:50] <cutiyar> wols,girly_ , solved the checking update after removing it thank uu
[10:50] <fischa> actually its a little bit complicated. I have three ext3 partitions for boot, root and home. root and home are encrypted with luks.
[10:51] <cutiyar> wols, but this plugin let me video call in google+ and gmail , is video call still work?
[10:51] <jzjad> How can I find out where out where curl files are?
[10:51] <fischa> so if there would be a way to boot a live cd which has a console, I would just type in to boot /boot
[10:51] <wols> cutiyar: then ignore these minor errors
[10:51] <wols> cutiyar: and keep the repos
[10:51] <StevenR> fischa: but..um... why?
[10:52] <jrib> jzjad: what curl files?  Why?
[10:52] <wols> jzjad: dpkg -L <package name>. and if you are compiling anything, then you need the libcurl -dev package
[10:52] <cutiyar> wols, thats really big problem
[10:52] <wols> fischa: ubottu told you long ago
[10:52] <fffffff> hello
[10:52] <wols> cutiyar: no it's not
[10:52] <fffffff> i have p roblem with firefox
[10:52] <jzjad> Well that command dosnt say where wol
[10:52] <fffffff> can you tell me where is firefox profile folder on 11.04?
[10:53] <StevenR> fffffff: in your home directory ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:53] <fffffff> lol
[10:53] <fffffff> ok
[10:53] <wols> jzjad: you are wrong
[10:53] <StevenR> (it's normally "hidden")
[10:54] <wols> jzjad: tell us exactly what you entered and what the output is. pastebin
[10:54] <jzjad> Well I don't see it wols :(
[10:54] <fffffff> lol
[10:54] <fffffff> right
[10:54] <fffffff> same as in 10.10
[10:54] <wols> jzjad: which package name did you want to see exactly?
[10:54] <jzjad> Ok
[10:54] <jzjad> Curl
[10:54] <wols> there is no package named "Curl". use the REAL package name
[10:56] <jzjad> Pastebin.com/8Ygiu0nj
[10:56] <jzjad> On iPod touch sorry
[10:57] <wols> jzjad: so what does dpkg -L curl   show you?
[10:57] <jzjad> Check the pastebin
[10:57] <wols> jzjad: ubuntu is case sensitive. read what I wrote above
[10:57] <wols> -l is not -L
[10:58] <jzjad> Ok
[10:58] <jzjad> Ty wols
[10:59] <dwep> i've created the folder /usr/share/fonts/misc, added a .pcf.gz file in it, done a mkfontscale and mkfontdir, and xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/misc/ and xset fp rehash
[10:59] <dwep> but still, nothing
[11:01] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:01] <maahes> how can I "reload" or refresh, or whatever, libnotify? I get a Glib "is an object" error on any issue of notify-send atm
[11:02] <GhostFace777> Hi
[11:03] <jzjad> Now running configuration set up 4irc wish me luck
[11:04] <GhostFace777> Can some one help me out with something simple lol?
[11:04] <jzjad> Ask it GhostFace777
[11:05] <GhostFace777> Ok how do i change the purple background?
[11:05] <GhostFace777> lol sry >.<
[11:05] <jzjad> Right click :3
[11:05] <jzjad> Change background :3
[11:05] <jzjad> :P
[11:05] <GhostFace777> i did right click does nothing
[11:05] <GhostFace777> nothing shows up lol
[11:05] <Nisstyre> yes
[11:05] <jzjad> What r u runny?
[11:06] <jzjad> Running*
[11:06] <GhostFace777> ubuntu
[11:06] <jzjad> Newest ver?
[11:06] <phasma> is anybody getting severe packet loss from archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:06] <GhostFace777> yes jzjad
[11:06] <fmauro> GhostFace777: are you running it on a mac?
[11:06] <GhostFace777> no om my pc
[11:07] <jzjad> Goto the top click edit
[11:07] <jzjad> On desktop
[11:07] <GhostFace777> wow
[11:07] <GhostFace777> lmao thank you so much
[11:07] <GhostFace777> im new to this sorry guys
[11:07] <phasma> don't be sorry. Welcome to GNU/Linux :)
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> !crosspost > GhostFace777
[11:08] <GhostFace777> what is gnu?
[11:08] <phasma> www.gnu.org
[11:08] <dwep> jeez, installing a pcf font can be a real pain
[11:08] <GhostFace777> ty
[11:09] <phasma> GhostFace777: it's basically what you are running now
[11:09] <jzjad> GhostFace777 welcome srry busy XD
[11:09] <GhostFace777> yea im reading up on it now
[11:09] <dwep> the folder is listed when executing 'xset q', and 'xset +fp [folder]', 'xset fp rehash' just won't do
[11:09] <GhostFace777> no worries
[11:09] <dwep> what gives?
[11:09] <fmauro> !enter | GhostFace777
[11:10] <subs0n1c> Hey. Using 11.04 with Acer Aspire 1825PTZ - which has a multitouch capable touchscreen. How do i get multitouch working? I got singletouch already. Thanks
[11:11] <phasma> subs0n1c: http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-ubuntu-howto.html
[11:12] <subs0n1c> thank you phasma, trying it
[11:12] <jzjad> subs0n1c: that sounds fun lol
[11:12] <subs0n1c> jzjad why? ^
[11:13] <jzjad> Touch screen that's why
[11:13] <jzjad> I'm on my iPod touch ATM irc app
[11:13] <jzjad> I want ubuntu for touch
[11:13] <jzjad> Ppl supposably have done it b4
[11:14] <GhostFace777> Where can I read like a guide for this?  I seem to have a problem setting the time in 11.04.... it's stuck in UTC time and won't let me open the Time & Date Settings. any suggestions?
[11:21] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, Probably the most valuable: www.ubuntuforums.org    Register and enjoy. BTW, welcome to Ubuntu!
[11:21] <GhostFace777> ty so much! im learning alot
[11:21] <subs0n1c> phasma , when typing git://git.lii-enac.fr/linux-input/hid-multitouch , getting error: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[11:22] <demolitio> anyone?
[11:23] <ntr0py> Is it possible to change the mouse cursor in the Appearance tab?
[11:23] <nsadmin> demolitio show output of date
[11:24] <jzjad> demolitio: change the time and take off auto time set , just by clicking the time to set
[11:24] <demolitio> jzjad: I would, but I cannot get into the settings window! (just doesn't launch)
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> demolitio, In Lucid, 10.04 it's: System--> Administration--> Time and Date.
[11:25] <demolitio> sidewinder1:  the settings window doesn't launch.
[11:25] <jzjad> demolitio:  have u just clicked the time? Lol
[11:25] <DrDaddy_> Any suggestions how to fix startup options  http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:25] <nsadmin> demolitio show output of date
[11:25] <demolitio> nsadmin: ?
[11:25] <nsadmin> type date in a terminal
[11:26] <nsadmin> output will be one line
[11:26] <kaphe> hello, how can I prevent compiz from initiating cube rotate while I am trying to use autoscroll in firefox?
[11:26] <nsadmin> show that line
[11:26] <demolitio> jzjad: I'm trying to tell you I'm clicking on an area clearly marked "time and date settings" and it is not opening, like it did before.
[11:26] <demolitio> under the clock.
[11:26] <jzjad> Hmm strang
[11:27] <demolitio> nsadmin: Sun Jul 31 11:26:40 UTC 2011
[11:27] <jzjad> Alt+f2 type settings
[11:27] <slide> ffs
[11:27] <subs0n1c> phasma , still there?
[11:27] <slide> the phrase blue balls has a very definite literal meaning for me lastnight/thismorning
[11:27] <nsadmin> ok, that shows th
[11:27] <nsadmin> that the timezone data is using is UTC
[11:27] <jzjad> Click that then try to open demolitio
[11:28] <wols> slide: stop that
[11:28] <slide> you stop it!
[11:29] <nsadmin> he might be capable of doing just that :)
[11:29] <jzjad> Haha I just read it... Wait that's wasn't funny
[11:29] <jzjad> O.O
[11:30] <subs0n1c> still having probs getting multitouch with my ptz1825, anyone with the same probs or maybe a solution?
[11:30] <wols> subs0n1c: you need to learn how to ask for help on irc. badly. your current wording isn't constructive
[11:31] <Benkinooby> !offtopic
[11:31] <demolitio> nsadmin: I would do so if I could get into the "Time & Date Settings" window. I can't. It will not launch to screen.
[11:31] <slide> im currently learning how to get multitouch too... but it failed
[11:31] <DrDaddy_> How to fix startup options (location)                                          http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:31] <ed8> hi there, is it possible to get different dynamic wallpapers for each viewport ?
[11:31] <ed8> like in Kwin. For instance, one desktop = one images folder
[11:31] <demolitio> jzjad: not doing anything. Suggestions?
[11:31] <jzjad> Open search and enter additional subs0n1c
[11:32] <subs0n1c> sorry wols, using 11.04 with my acer aspire 1825ptz, single touch is working already
[11:32] <jzjad> demolitio: srry idk wat to tell ya
[11:32] <demolitio> is there any way to set up via terminal or something? this is rediculous.
[11:32] <jzjad> Ya
[11:32] <jzjad> Google it ;3
[11:32] <nsadmin> demolitio, do you think that's a user setting for the timezone, or global for all users (at least by default)?
[11:32] <subs0n1c> jzjad nothing found under additional
[11:32] <sl33k_> whats the shortcut for desktop network connection?
[11:32] <jzjad> subs0n1c: hmm
[11:33] <nsadmin> in debian there's sudo tzconfig
[11:33] <demolitio> nsadmin: I'm the only user on this machine, and I'm definatly not in a country using UTC time.
[11:33] <nsadmin> dunno if ubuntu has that
[11:33] <jzjad> Wols what's the service command?
[11:34] <iszak> So for some reason when I start up ubuntu my window decoration / title bar isn't click able until i execute "metacity --replace" any solutions?
[11:34] <wols> demolitio: grep UTC /etc/default/*
[11:34] <carera> pff ATI proprietary FGLRX graphics driver gives worse results than "no driver" ^^
[11:35] <demolitio> apparently.... dpkg-reconfigure tzdata worked.
[11:35] <demolitio> in setting my time.
[11:35] <carera> well it says 1800 bzillions FPS but the glxgears are lagging
[11:35] <demolitio> just wish I could get the blasted GUI to work.
[11:35] <nsadmin> well then, you could alter the global settings
[11:35] <BluesKaj> nsadmin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[11:36] <jzjad> Nvm I remember
[11:36] <DrDaddy_> Help on startup options appreciated                                                                                http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:36] <nsadmin> that's a good point too, I have never seen the ui, and I have questions about that
[11:37] <demolitio> nsadmin: yeah, it looks smooth, even allows you to update based on your IP address- but it didn't for some reason, and apparently if you configure multiple timezones.. it does what it's doing to me now.
[11:38] <jzjad> Hmm ok now I'm having a problem, my screen just randomly went multiple colored and fked up
[11:38] <demolitio> I had two timezones set up- UTC and EST (toronto), I clicked on UTC, rebooted, next thing you know I have two UTCs in the list and the settings window won't launch.
[11:38]  * BluesKaj is a little slow this morning ...more coffee needed, but sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata worked for me , however still trying to configure a 12 hr clock setting , but no luck
[11:38] <nsadmin> first question I have, is what's the default gui, and is there a good reason to choose the default?
[11:38] <gry> nsadmin: Gnome?
[11:39] <xangua> !unity | nsadmin
[11:39] <nsadmin> so I would aptitude install unity?
[11:39] <gry> nsadmin: No, it's on by default...
[11:39] <jzjad> XD
[11:40] <nsadmin> well my case is somewhat unusual
[11:40] <nsadmin> I just have the base installed
[11:40] <gry> nsadmin: Since, erm, 11.04 it is. What is your version?
[11:40] <exutux> aptitude is optional not by default install
[11:40] <nsadmin> that;'s it, natty
[11:41] <nsadmin> yes I understand that
[11:41] <ichat_> when installing ubuntu server..  and wanting to install services like  samba  mysql  and so on where are they stored...
[11:41] <gry> nsadmin: ``apt-cache show unity'' will show you if it's installed...
[11:41] <DrDaddy_> Cannot boot without usb-stick    http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:41] <nsadmin> is unity-the-package an empty set of deps?
[11:42] <xangua> a.k.a. metapackage
[11:42] <nsadmin> so, yes?
[11:43] <ichat_> i mean where is the data of these services stored... if im looking at the installer   it say that they are suposed to go in /srv  - but it isn't
[11:43] <wols> ichat_: what "installer"?   dpkg -L <packagename> shows you where they go
[11:44] <demolitio> well, thanks all... even though I still don't have this blasted gui launching.... at least I'm in the correct timezone now.
[11:44] <wols> ichat what problem are you trying to solve actually?
[11:44] <ichat_> wols:  - i mean the ubuntu installer (partition editor) says that /srv  is reserved for services provided by this machine...
[11:45] <wols> ichat_: there is no /srv in linux
[11:45] <wols> ichat_: what is your actual problem?
[11:45] <nsadmin> !info unity
[11:45] <ichat_> wols there is' and if you hang in ill prove it...
[11:45] <szal> wols: there _is_ /srv/ in Linux; might be that not every distro provides it, but I've seen it
[11:46] <astraljava> wols: Sure there is. In ubuntu, by default (at least 11.04).
[11:46] <DrDaddy_> Bootup problems    http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:46] <elz89> I can confirm that all my server based apps, usually run from /srv or /opt
[11:47] <elz89> for instance, i run my firefox sync server from /srv
[11:47] <elz89> on my ubuntu gateway :-)
[11:47] <kamidi> wols: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[11:48] <nsadmin> !info ipmasq
[11:48] <elz89> nsadmin: don't you have google?
[11:48] <nsadmin> google is not best evidence
[11:48] <ichat_> wols - my actuall problem is, that  when i look at for example ebox... (recomended on ubuntu..)...  all  served files as scatered thourgh the system...    and i have no clue how to get them in a signle  raid 5 volume...  without installing the entire system on it...
[11:49] <wols> !info ebox
[11:50] <wols> ichat_: define "served files"
[11:50] <ichat_> wols,  documentes,  email,   mysql
[11:51] <nsadmin> lemme try rebooting back into the ubuntu and try installing unity
[11:51] <wols> ichat_: email and mysql DBs are both under /var. and "documents" is so generic it's useless. what kinds of documents
[11:51] <DrDaddy_> Help with startup needed            http://paste.ubuntu.com/655601/
[11:51]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[11:52] <tsimpson> ichat_: almost nothing really ever uses /srv, it's just there if you want to use it...
[11:52] <ichat_> wols,  some are stored in /home  i think, other  on /home/samba    some others (if i create the shares could be anywayr (its all samba shares
[11:53] <ichat_> the problem i have..  is  i want  a single   ide disk for  installing  the server on and my data to be stored on a   5 disk raid5 (mdadm)
[11:53] <soc> hi
[11:53] <soc> does someone know what's the connection between Ubuntu One and Canonnical Landscape?
[11:54] <ichat_> when i also put  stof like  var on it   it also gets  var/logs  -  witch is un intended and i fear that it slows my  disk down to mutch
[11:54] <wols> DrDaddy_: install your grub to /dev/sdX1 (where /dev/sdX1 is your ubuntu partition) instead of /dev/sda. Then edit your windows bootloader to chainload grub from there. or use any other windows bootloader of your choice
[11:54] <soc> or if it makes sense (and if it is possible) to buy landscape from canonnical for small networks? (e. g. 3-5 pcs?)
[11:55] <wols> ichat_: install your / on the IDE disk and symlink your /home and /var to the raid5.
[11:55] <wols> ichat_: if your raid 5 is slowed down by logs, then the raid is useless
[11:56] <DrDaddy_> wols : How do I do that? I'm not familiar with grub and terrified off messing up the computer
[11:56] <wols> DrDaddy_: what is your ubuntu installation's device name?
[11:57] <DrDaddy_> wols: sdb
[11:57] <wols> DrDaddy_: that's not it. sdb is a disk, not a partition
[11:58] <ichat_> its something i fear im not even shure how to mesure it... but  from what i read  writhing lots of small files  usually  slows down your disks..    im mostly  running raid5 (software)  because its allows me for some   diskfail protection (i dont have to run a full backup if a disk should fail...
[11:58] <wols> ichat_: since when are logs "small files". and you shouldn't believe everything your read
[11:58] <balaji_> how to integrate pidgin,vlc,desktop notifications into gnome3
[11:59] <ichat_> wols - so  i should just try and   mount both var  and  home in the same  aray...
 I guess I really need help... sdb1?
[12:00]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[12:00] <dawidmaster> Witam Pomo¿e kto¶ w odpowiedzi na pytanie czy mój komputer sprosta linuksowi?
[12:01] <DrDaddy_> wols: I guess I really need help...sdb1?
[12:01] <wols> DrDaddy_: much more likely. "grub-install /dev/sdb1" and it's installed there. now you need to decide which bootloader you want for your internal harddisk and install it. since it will be a windows bootloader it's not on topic here. ask ##windows. tell them you want to boot /dev/sdb1 via chainloading
[12:01] <wols> DrDaddy_: and you do NOT want to use any ubuntu bootloader for /dev/sda
[12:02] <pippo> ciao gente
[12:02] <pippo> !list
[12:02] <Sidewinder1> !it | pippo
[12:03] <BluesKaj> what makes these ppl from italy think ubuntu is an mp3 sharing site ?
[12:03] <arianit> histo, I'm trying to locate a particular dictionary used by Firefox and LibreOffice, where should I look
[12:04] <TuxBrother> is the broken splashscreen resolution adressed yet?
[12:04] <arianit> I'm trying to locate a particular dictionary used by Firefox and LibreOffice, where should I look
[12:05] <wols> BluesKaj: an italian computer magazine rag
[12:07] <BluesKaj> wols, heh, a misinformed magazine
[12:07] <nsadmin> interesting... I just saw an install of unity also pull in make, gcc, g++... is that a dep on build-essential?
[12:08] <dr_willis> build-essential should pull in stuff needed to get a working compiler system.
[12:08] <wols> nsadmin: maybe a recommends?
[12:08] <nsadmin> yes, understood. but... -why-?
[12:09] <DrDaddy_> wols: So when I installed ubuntu on the usb-stick the original bootloader(windows) disapeared?
[12:09] <nsadmin> and I can't run aptitude why right now, it's installing stuff
[12:09] <wols> DrDaddy_: depending where you installed the bootloader too, but possibly yes
[12:09] <lixxus> does amd switchable graphics work now on ubuntu ?
[12:09] <Benkinooby> can someone tell me how to run kwin on it's own.. as window manger without all the kde stuff?
[12:10] <airtonix> nsadmin: as in why are those thought to be somethign that should be in build-essential ?
[12:10] <nsadmin> that I understand
[12:10] <wols> lixxus: depends how you define "works" and which one you mean. there are many different implementations
[12:10] <nsadmin> what I'm not understanding is one of two things...
[12:10] <lixxus> out of the box
[12:10] <nsadmin> why would unity depend on build-essential, or
[12:11] <nsadmin> why would unity depend on gcc, make and g++
[12:11] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  one way. make a .xinitrc or .xesession and use the 'custom' entry in the login screen, or via disabling kdm/gdm and using 'startx'
[12:11] <DrDaddy_> wols: I just followed the instructions from CD installation. I did not see any options there. One problem though, I do not have any admin privilegies on the windows OS
[12:12] <cstrahan> Hello!
[12:12] <tstaerk> Hi
[12:12] <tstaerk> I want a server with Ubuntu at rackspace. I want to use it the next 5 years.
[12:12] <tstaerk> Is Ubuntu 11.4 LTS?
[12:13] <wols> DrDaddy_: I cannot help you with windows problems. and you need a bootloader you control which is wholly installed on your windows partition and disk, nothing more. Ubuntu grub will always install partially on ubuntu partitions and is therefore not suited. ask ##windows for a usable bootloader for your scenario, not ubuntu
[12:13] <wols> tstaerk: no. 10.04 is and 12.04 will be
[12:13] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, "custom" do you mean the field, where i choose my gui?
[12:13] <tstaerk> wols: thanks a lot, this really helps
[12:13] <hoopjumping> help ubotu nickserve
[12:14] <DrDaddy_> wols: OK I'll try that. Thanks for your help
[12:14] <wols> hoopjumping: /msg nickserv help
[12:14] <hoopjumping> Hi, need help with two things. 1: I need to register my username (I was carl). 2: I got two NTFS hard drives in my computer, I want to backup one to the other so I can reformat one as EXT4
[12:14] <hoopjumping> the hard drives don't turn up and I don't know where my file browser is
[12:14] <hoopjumping> or what it's called
[12:15] <GhostFace777>  Hey guys. Can someone please help me? I am trying to add  quicklists to the Nautilus Home folder launcher(think thats what you call it) and I opened up terminal and pasted the commands I was told to put but it does not work.
[12:15] <wols> hoopjumping: sudo fdisk -l   there they need to turn up if you want to access them. and then mount them via ntfs-3g or similar
[12:16] <hoopjumping> wols: that's really complicated. If I plug in a flash drive, in the left hand menu I can see my NTFS volume (it was from a windows machine, didn't want to loose my data). What's the file browser called?
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> !register | hoopjumping
[12:16] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  same place you chose 'gnome' or 'kde' or 'ubuntu' thats the desktop 'sessions' menu on the login screen.
[12:17] <hoopjumping> sidewinder1: I registered it.
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> hoopjumping, I guess I misunderstood your first question, sorry.
[12:18] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ok, thx
[12:18] <hoopjumping> it's ok.  What's it called?
[12:18] <wols> hoopjumping: nautilus normally in ubuntu
[12:19] <hoopjumping> and will I get this issue once my hard drive is EXT4? If so, I'd like to make a shortcut to the desktop for it
[12:19] <hoopjumping> thankyou
[12:19] <carera> hi there
[12:20] <wols> hoopjumping: what "issue"?
[12:20] <GhostFace777>  Can someone who is not busy please help me? I am trying to add  quicklists to the Nautilus Home folder launcher(think thats what you call it) and I opened up terminal and pasted the commands I was told to put but it does not work.
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777,  you could give the url to the 'commands' you were told...
[12:21] <hoopjumping> wols: The issue is the drive doesn't auto-mount, which I'd like, as if I'm using bittorrent, I'm hardly going to be downloading to my 16gb OS drive. Thing is, i've noticed programs cannot mount drives. I have to do it manually.
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777,  most likely you did somthing wrong.
[12:21] <nurkurz> hi there, i have a quick question: how can i prevent unity from opening windows maximized automatically if they are very big? ... i remember that there was a setting about this anywhere, but i don't find it anymore :-(
[12:21] <Sidewinder1> GhostFace777, Or a further elaboration of "quicklists".
[12:21] <GhostFace777> i copied the commands from the webpage and pasted them in the terminal
[12:21] <dr_willis> GhostFace777, ... what web page...
[12:22] <nsadmin> anyway, I thought my x didn't work, seemed like the mouse would 't  move. but, startx does work
[12:22] <nsadmin> and everything seems to be there, and it's fast
[12:22] <GhostFace777> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:23] <nsadmin> too fast, I'm not used to the mouse that fast, and, it's saying it can 't use unity and the reason is something to do with hardware...
[12:23] <GhostFace777> that web page
[12:23] <wols> hoopjumping: it depends how you set it all up
[12:23] <Oxymoron> Where do I find a version of ntfs-config that works? For now I get errors when trying to start it, errors in the programming ...
[12:23] <wols> nsadmin: 3d acceleration not working usually
[12:23] <Oxymoron>     os.mkdir(HAL_CONFIG_DIR)
[12:23] <hoopjumping> wols: Yeah, when I reformat my hard drive, I'll ask how I can automount it. Just copying some files over atm
[12:24] <Oxymoron> OSError: [Errno 2] Filen eller katalogen finns inte: '/etc/hal/fdi/policy'
[12:24] <nsadmin> oh, ok
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: where did you download your ntfs-config from and what are the errors?
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: LANG=C command
[12:24] <Oxymoron> wols: I downloaded from repos in Kubuntu ;)
[12:24] <blha303> !info timidity
[12:24] <wols> Oxymoron: what package name?
[12:24] <nsadmin> wols: what about gpm and natty? found its libs tho
[12:25] <wols> nsadmin: what about it?
[12:25] <nsadmin> coulnd't find the package
[12:25] <nsadmin> no gpm, no gpm2
[12:25] <Oxymoron> wols: http://pastebin.com/Au45df1N
[12:26] <Oxymoron> wols: Not sure package name, isnt it ntfs-config?
[12:26] <nsadmin> does unity use compiz?
[12:26] <hoopjumping> nsadmin: It didn't on my install, so I had to apt-get compiz
[12:26] <wols> !motu
[12:27] <Oxymoron> wols: 1.0.1-9 is the version, and amd64
[12:27] <usuario> ola
[12:27] <usuario> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, ntfs-3g
[12:27] <wols> BluesKaj: he tries to use a frontend to that, which blows up on him
[12:28] <nsadmin> hmm. so the reason  it's complaining has nothing to do with compiz
[12:28] <seven__> any idea how to run conky on a different screen? it's always taking my primary screen, but i want it on my second
[12:28] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: How to AUTOMATICLY write to fstab like ntfs-config does? I want automount ntfs without manipulating fstab mysefl
[12:28] <carera> guys, i've got fresh ubuntu installation on my acer with ati HD5470, i installed ati driver, it appears to work, but it appears to work slower than without it... glxgears say 1800fps, but it's lagging like crazy
[12:29] <carera> fgl_glxgears are smooth, but moving windows is a bit laggy
[12:29] <hoopjumping> Oh hey, I may as well ask as I'm backing up: I have a HDMI out (nvidia ION graphics), but can't get any signal out. It was working with windows, so I know that bit works, just nvidia x server doesn't want to detect the telly I have the hdmi plugged into
[12:30] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I want answer on that too :)
[12:31] <hoopjumping> oxymoron: I was here last week, the guy said he'd get himself a HDMI graphics card so he could test it out as it's a common request for help
[12:31] <evilgen> Hallo kennst sich jemand mit Ylmf aus? Soll ein Ubuntu-System sein
[12:31] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I heard, not sure if you have same config but that hybrid hraphics not is supported yet in Linux but guys are working on it.
[12:32] <wols> !de | evilgen
[12:32] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: I tried google and I have not found anyone be able to make it work.
[12:32] <evilgen> thx
[12:32] <wols> Oxymoron: my t400 hybrid graphics works reasnably well under linux
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdXX /mnt ,  will mount the partition for a session at least .
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Oxymoron, Have you searched or asked in www.ubuntuforums.org?
[12:33] <wols> but the configuration needed is not yet in vanilla ubuntu
[12:33] <Oxymoron> wols: Mine works, but Linux only use the Intel built in chip. no the nvidia, wont switch at all.
[12:33] <hoopjumping> oxymoron: I dunno what hybrid graphics are. I have an Asus AT3ION-t Motherboard, it's got an intel atom cpu, and nvidia ion gpu under one small heatsink (doesn't get that hot). VGA works ok, but this is supposed to be my HTPC, thus needs the hdmi for those super duper high res+audio outputs.
[12:33] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I want automount, not force mount everytime :P
[12:33] <Oxymoron> Sidewinder1: Yes I searched there
[12:33] <wols> Oxymoron: that is not any value of "works" I am familiar with
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> :-(
[12:34] <Oxymoron> wols: I tried acpi_call, switcheroo and bumblebee, but nothing seems to work.
[12:34] <nsadmin> ok, here's my video, what's next for enabling 3d
[12:34] <nsadmin> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200] [1002:9712]
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, there are lots og ntfs-3g mount /fstab tutorials ..but I don't understand why it's nort automounting ...perhaps a permissions problem ?
[12:35] <Oxymoron> hoopjumping: Thats harsch, must be get working. As It seems, either it works out of box or not at all :P
[12:35] <guillermo> hi
[12:35] <wols> nsadmin: ati/radeon. should be there by default and working
[12:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: In my opinion, ubuntu kernel should automount all hdd by default, first time I installed it.
[12:35] <wols> hoopjumping: use the nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:35] <nsadmin> if not, what would I install
[12:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I should not need to manipulate fstab to make it automount.
[12:36] <wols> !fglrx > nsadmin
[12:36] <dr_willis> I always tell the installer where to Mount my windows partitions... there is the ntfs-config tool that can auto-add fstab entries i belive
[12:36] <hoopjumping> wols: Is that when you start up and it says restricted drivers available? I checked yes on the nvidia stuff
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, agreed , that's why I'm puzzled
[12:36] <Oxymoron> wols: When I enabled nvidia prop drivers, xserver wont work and my computer cannot boot, fatal error.
[12:36] <nsadmin> oh, fglrx? is that compiled in ubuntu? or do I do that?
[12:36] <Oxymoron> wols: Thats because my nvidia card does not seem to be found or something on bootup.
[12:37] <Oxymoron> wols: Linux kernel use my Intel chip by default on boot, hence the fail when Xserver is told to use nvidia drivers xD
[12:37] <wols> Oxymoron: yes. if you set your BIOS to "discrete" or such it will work but intel won't. shitty implementation. Optimus as implemented is utter crap
[12:37] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I can mount it myself, but I do not want that, it should just work.
[12:38] <nsadmin> this thing might need firmware... is that packaged?
[12:38] <wols> nsadmin: read what ubottu told you
[12:38] <Oxymoron> wols: LOL, yeah xD Do you know if someone is working on it? It is a shame graphics wont work, especially not HDMI.
[12:38] <nsadmin> still no browser yet
[12:39] <nsadmin> I'm in ubuntu, not my presently comfortable and complete debian :)
[12:39] <wols> there are some people working on it, but there might not be a good solution since the X architecture basically prevents on the fly switching apparently
[12:39] <wols> nsadmin: works mostly the same actually. and as a debian user you know how to check the bot (hint!)
[12:39] <wols> nsadmin: /msg ubottu fglrx
[12:40] <Oxymoron> wols: So basicly X and Linux kernel conflicts? :D
[12:40] <wols> Oxymoron: X
[12:40] <nsadmin> I saw it, it's a link, that;s why I said "I don't have a browser yet"
[12:40] <Oxymoron> wols: Maybe it is time to abandon X and program a new window handler :P
[12:40] <nsadmin> that plus no cut/paste is a bummer :P
[12:41] <wols> Oxymoron: already underway
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, check your nvidia-driver , it may not be installed the nouveau is the default , you may need to install the recommended driver in additional drivers
[12:41] <dr_willis> Oxymoron,  that would be 'wayland' i think as to the next alternative to X.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[12:41] <wols> nsadmin: you have lynx, links, elinks,...
[12:41] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Well I tried that already, does not work unfortunatly. I can enable the nvidia, but Xserver wont work with it because of something I do not know, fatal error on bootup.
[12:41] <wols> BluesKaj: driver alone won't help
[12:41] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: :)
[12:42] <nsadmin> pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[12:42] <nsadmin> p
[12:42] <nsadmin> pp
[12:42] <nsadmin> pp
[12:42] <nsadmin> p
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, which nvidia card?
[12:42] <FloodBot1> nsadmin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <oCean> nsadmin: stop that
[12:42] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: One sec
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: you do know this is a Optimus setup?
[12:43] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210M] (rev a2)
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: the problem is NOT the nvidia chip but the way it accesses and shares the DVI out
[12:43] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: It is though ALSO using 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[12:43] <wols> BluesKaj: and it's NOT the driver either
[12:43] <pooltable> KDE 4.7 how do i installed it and try it ?
[12:43] <linuxuz3r> edk 7.4
[12:43] <Oxymoron> pooltable: Visit kubuntu.org ;)
[12:44] <linuxuz3r> 7.4 edk
[12:44] <Oxymoron> pooltable: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.7
[12:45] <Oxymoron> I am just curious, latest thunderbolt, sandy bridge, bulldozer, new Intel chips etc, does they work on Linux? :P
[12:45] <Oxymoron> Ubuntu*
[12:45] <jim> argh. did I post garbage, a buncha ps?
[12:45] <wols> Oxymoron: yes
[12:45] <wols> jim: if you are nsadmin, then yes
[12:45] <Oxymoron> wols: Nice :) Just cruious if new things works or if it would be hopeless to buy a new computer in future :P
[12:45] <pooltable> thanks
[12:46] <jim> yeah, sorry
[12:48] <hoopjumping> wow, I'm getting a writing speed (to the drive I just formatted ext4) of 62.5mb/sec. It's going to copy 190gb quickly
[12:48] <amin`> hi guys I am using gentoo and I nedd halp with networkmanager . I overwrites nameservers and hostname each time i restart. how could it be happemimg in gentoo but there is nothing happens in ubuntu?
[12:49] <ThinkT510> amin`: ask gentoo
[12:49] <wols> amin`: you are in the wrong channel
[12:49] <hoopjumping> so, where is the hard drive controls so I can say "start when the system starts", as when using transmission It won't mount the hard drive automatically and then gives me torrent errors
[12:50] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  i normally just add a fstab entry. or run ntfs-config for ntfs/vfat and it can add the,. but ntfs-config is often flakey.
[12:50] <amin`> I know guys. I want to know what happens in ubuntu with metwork manager does it write resolve.conf and nameservers eachtime you restart. If No how ubuntu configures it??
[12:51] <dr_willis> im not sure if psydm can add a entry/make it mount at boot up.
[12:51] <hoopjumping> dr_willis I've reformatted my drive to EXT4, will ntfs tools work with that?
[12:51] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  make a fstab entry. and be SURE to chown/chmod the dir you want to write to -- to be owned by your user.
[12:51] <wols> amin`: yes it does
[12:51] <wols> amin`: by way of dhcp client usually
[12:51] <norbert_> hi all, when I use gparted to format a USB stick to ext4, for some reason 64.34 MB is already used after it has been formatted, but there are no files on the USB stick yet... any ideas how this is possible? does it have to do with the ext4 format, maybe?
[12:52] <wols> norbert_: metadata and the 5-10% of diskspace reserved for root
[12:52] <wols> plus the megabyte vs. mebibyte prefix bullshit
[12:52] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: I have no idea what you're talking about. Is there a program I can use, to right click on the drive, then click a checkbox to say automount on startup? Hopefully it'd have controls to spin the drive down after three minutes to
[12:52] <ThinkT510> !language | wols
[12:52] <norbert_> 5-10% is reserved for root?
[12:52] <norbert_> for user root?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> !fstab | hoopjumping
[12:54] <wols> norbert_: man tune2fs
[12:54] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  theres not such feature thative ever seen.
[12:55] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  theres mounting at BOOT TIME. then mounting when the user logs in and first accesses tghe disk.
[12:55] <encaitar> new to irc and ubuntu, is this an appropriate place to ask a ssh rsa setup question?
[12:55] <ThinkT510> encaitar: if you are in need of help, yes
[12:56] <norbert_> wols: thanks, the -m reserved-blocks-percentage seems to be what I was looking for
[12:56] <dr_willis> !fstab | hoopjumping
[12:56] <amin`> again sorry So can you tell me the offtopic channel or ask here
[12:56] <encaitar> ThinkT510, thank you, question to follow
[12:56] <hoopjumping> dr_willis, hmm. I dunno how to describe it. I am more familiar with windows, and under power options (found with the screensaver submenu) you could say when to turn hard drives off. There, mounting is not an issue, all hard drives mount on startup. But here I have to manually mount the drive
[12:56] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  bottom line.. you want a hard drive filesystem to be mounted at bootup, befor a user even logs in.. you add an entry in the /etc/fstab file for it.
[12:56] <gnagno> hello all, I am having issues in upgrading my system.... I did an apt-get upgrade and it hanged at 2
[12:56] <upthedeise> leave
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> !ot | amin`
[12:57] <wols> gnagno: pastebin the output of your apt-get command
[12:57] <gnagno> hello all, I am having issues in upgrading my system.... I did an apt-get upgrade and it hanged at "Setting up libappindicator0.1-cil, installing 3 assemblies from libappindicator0.1-cil into mono"
[12:57] <gnagno> sorry wols the second message is the correct one
[12:58] <encaitar> Running Ubuntu 10.4, set up LAMP using guide on Linode (not using Linode, local box, just using their guide), can connect via putty from a Win 7 box on the same network using putty and WinSCP. Read the Linode guide on using secure RSA authentication, changing a few settings in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file ...
[12:58] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: I'm not sure, I'm a bit confused. Basically, I want it so when I'm logged in, in addition to the ssd where my OS is, I want the other drive with my data on it to be mounted. I guess it'll just be easier to fire up nautilus and click on it.
[12:58] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  its worth the 20 min it will take to learn how fstab works.
[12:58] <gnagno> my computer cannot pass the step "installing 3 assemblies from libappindicator0.1-cil into mono" but I don't want mono and would be glad to uninstall it, can I directly uninstall it ?
[12:59] <encaitar> changed AuthorizedKeysFile to point to location of public key generated from puttygen on Win7 box, and PasswordAuthentication set to no
[12:59] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  your method is mounting  on first access by the file manager
[12:59] <dr_willis>  You will STILL need your ext4 filesystem to be properly owned by the user you want to have full access to ut
[12:59] <chaitu> Can someone please help me in having youtube working in chromium browser please? is this a flash issue?
[13:00] <wols> dr_willis: only for the / of the ext4 fs
[13:00] <chaitu> I just did sudo apt-get upgrade flash and it has finished it
[13:00] <encaitar> when connecting over winscp error message disconnected no supported authentication method found, am I missing a setting change?
[13:00] <dr_willis> wols,  subdirs can be owned by other users. :)
[13:00] <hoopjumping> dr_willis: Ehhh, I have a healthy disdain for the command line. I know, it's amazing, why bother with a GUI even? But I'm one of those people that likes to get my computer stuff done with a mouse, and uses the keyboard for naming things.
[13:00] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  all i can say is... get over it.
[13:01] <hoopjumping> I'll read up on fstab.
[13:01] <dr_willis> !fstab
[13:01] <dr_willis> with computers and linux - it pays to lern the fundamentals..
[13:01] <WaltherFI> !offtopic
[13:01] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: you can edit fstab through the gui
[13:02] <dr_willis> ive learned to not trust fstab  'gui' tools... :)
[13:02] <WaltherFI> sorry to say this guys, but the debate over GUI vs terminal is not about support
[13:02] <hoopjumping> thinkt510: What's the program called?
[13:02] <dr_willis> i mentioned 'psydm' earlier.
[13:02] <dr_willis> !info psydm
[13:02] <dr_willis> or was it pysdm ?
[13:03] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: just launch an editor with gksudo
[13:03] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: though i do find it miles easier simply using nano
[13:03]  * duga is away: Jestem zajęty
[13:04] <Soothsayer> why can't I ping any host with my default install of ubuntu?
[13:04] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:04] <alex--> Soothsayer: depends on what it returns as error
[13:05] <Soothsayer> alex--, well it resolves the host, but there's a 100% packet loss
[13:05] <Soothsayer> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms   <-- no matter what i ping
[13:06] <hoopjumping> this fstab stuff sounds far too complicated, when I have a method I know will work right now. Besides, I only want the drive on intermittently, so it doesn't make sense to mount it on login.
[13:06] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, probably your settings, try pinging <IP_ADDRESS> ; does that give response?
[13:06] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, nope, no response.
[13:07] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, wirless or cable?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, wireless
[13:07] <ThinkT510> hoopjumping: honestly, it is easy when you know how, you just need to want to know
[13:07] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, what kind ? wep/wpa(2)?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, maybe it's pinging through the wrong network card?
[13:07] <Soothsayer> hmm one sec
[13:07] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, WPA
[13:07] <Soothsayer> WPA - Personal - TKIP
[13:08] <BrainBug> Soothsayer, should work out of the box, but, what does ifconfig say for wlan0 or eth1 ?
[13:08] <dr_willis> hoopjumping,  you say its far too complex when you havent even tried.. if you dont need it mounted at BOOT TIME. then you can just let the file manager automount it on first access.. but rember you must access it - first. Your torrent clients wont auto mount it  - if they are writing to it.
[13:08] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, brb, urgent call, sorry
[13:08] <BrainBug> np
[13:09] <odie5533> I have a directory w/ root owner and a different group owns it and I'm a member of that group. If I create a file in the directory, it shows me as the owner and group of the file. Will other groups members be able to read/write files I've created in that directory as well as create/delete subdirectories, even though I'm the owner and group of them?
[13:10] <ThinkT510> !permissions | odie5533
[13:10] <satellit_> Sugar desktop works: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.88.1_on_Ubuntu_11.04  wish surf-115 was packaged for Ubuntu 11.04
[13:11] <alex--> Soothsayer: try to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:11] <odie5533> ThinkT510: It's a good page and I've read it, but it doesn't answer my question.
[13:12] <thauriswulfa> HELP:unable to install java http://paste.ubuntu.com/655643/ need help
[13:13] <h_> hi there, anyone with experience developing an appindicator in natty? or is there a specific irc channel for devs
[13:13] <h_> ?
[13:13] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: what command did you use?
[13:13] <thauriswulfa> fmauro: I installed from ubuntu software center
[13:14] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: try opening a console with Ctrl-Alt-T
[13:15] <thauriswulfa> fmauro:  but it seems to be installed in software center
[13:15] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: don't worry about it for now
[13:15] <thauriswulfa> fmauro: ok
[13:15] <fmauro> thauriswulfa: we don't have to clog up the channel for this. I'll pm you
[13:16] <fmauro> \query thauriswulfa
[13:16] <dr_willis> h_,  ive seen ones written in Python at the askubuntu.com listing. :)  if you want an example.
[13:16] <Thrawn> how do i add an icon for the unity launcher (ubuntu 11.04) for a program? i got a ? as the icon for eclipse in the launcher
[13:16] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  eclipse ive heard of as being a little 'weird' because of how its launched from a script  and other complexities.. (ive seen it asked about like 3 times a week in here)
[13:17] <h_> dr_willis, you mean answers there?
[13:17] <dr_willis> h_,  i just noticed many are at the site. and some were in python. i was going to get that one and examine the code to try to write my own.. someday. :) but never had the time
[13:17] <Thrawn> dr_willis: but the eclipse icon shows up when i click the ubuntu icon of the laucher and type eclipse there :P
[13:18] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  eclipse is weird.. all i can say. I dont use it. but ive seen it speficically asked about with that same issue here several times befor.
[13:18] <h_> dr_willis, well actually im trying to build mine, but i just wanted to know how to pick my own icon. >D
[13:18] <Thrawn> dr_willis: do you know in what folder the unity-launcher icons are stored?
[13:19] <BrainBug> thrawn, fllw this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher it sais where all is stored
[13:19] <dr_willis> Thrawn,  no idea.  Unity is one of those 'idiot-proofed unti its unknownable voodoo' :)
[13:19] <dr_willis> bbl - off to the store
[13:19] <Thrawn> lol
[13:19] <Thrawn> thx brainbug
[13:19] <Thrawn> um brainbug thats not unity
[13:20] <BrainBug> thrawn, this one is :) was the default one there http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[13:21] <Thrawn> thats better :D thanks brainbug!
[13:23] <Roo79> Hi all :) I've been trying to find out if there is an oneiric minimal install out yet? or if there is a way to do it. can anyone please help
[13:23] <wols> !oneiric
[13:25] <AceKing> Is there a way to boot into 11.04 live CD in classic mode?
[13:25] <alex-->  AceKing you mean gnome instead of unity?
[13:25] <AceKing> alex--, yes
[13:25] <rsv> on ubuntu 10.10 sound doesnt work on my acer laptop, how do i troubleshoot
[13:26] <WaltherFI> rsv: have you checked all the settings from the sound menu?
[13:26] <alex--> AceKing: log out, and then at the bottom of your screen you will see some buttons, there you can select classic mode. select it and login again
[13:26] <AceKing> I tried that, but it's asking for a password
[13:26] <WaltherFI> AceKing: the pass is empty
[13:26] <alex--> AceKing: just press enter
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> !sound | rsv
[13:27] <AceKing> WaltherFI, alex--, it keeps saying Authentication failure
[13:28] <alex--> AceKing: try username: ubuntu, password:
[13:28] <AceKing> alex--, OK
[13:30] <AceKing> alex--, It worked, but it signed in under Unity, even thought I clicked on Ubuntu Classic on the drop down menu
[13:30] <alex--> AceKing: try 'safe mode'
[13:31] <AceKing> alex--, ok
[13:31] <alex--> instead of classic
[13:32] <AceKing> alex--, Nope, still signing into Unity.. That's OK, I'll deal with it. I just needed to back up files before I re-installed on this laptop. I just hate Unity
[13:32] <alex--> strange
[13:33] <AceKing> alex--, thanks for your help!
[13:33] <alex--> AceKing: :)
[13:33] <skjoedt> Could someone assist me? I have trouble getting HDMI out working (no screen detection when plugging in HDMI). Works in win7. I have an ATI HD4670 and running catalyst 11.6
[13:40] <fmauro> join #linux
[13:46] <hoopjumping> Hi, back again. I did my backup, unmounted both hard drives. Now they are unmounted, is it safe for me to take the power and data cables out?
[13:47] <compdoc> not while its powered on
[13:47] <compdoc> are you trying not to shut off the system?
[13:47] <mark1> with SATA it should be fine
[13:47] <hoopjumping> No, just wanted to unplug the hard drive from another computer
[13:47] <hoopjumping> but I feared as much. Ah well, thanks. I'll have to shut down
[13:48] <compdoc> sata is capable of hot-plugging
[13:48] <hoopjumping> it's sata
[13:48] <hoopjumping> cool, I'll try it. Can't hurt as they are unmounted
[13:49] <compdoc> unplugging would be safer than plugging it in to a powered on system
[13:49] <compdoc> I always power off
[13:54] <asganafer> come vi sembra ubuntu 11.04??
[13:55] <IdleOne> !it | asganafer
[13:56] <pr0ton> what do you guys use to send mass emails?
[13:56] <pr0ton> basically i want to send emails to a couple of people i know
[13:56] <pr0ton> from my SMTP server, bu thunderbird doesnt support mass emailing
[13:56] <pr0ton> the issue is if i BCC everybody, then their name doesnt show
[13:56] <fmauro> !enter | pr0ton
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> pr0ton, So just CC them, not BCC.
[13:57] <fmauro> pr0ton: then just CC everybody. then their name will show.
[13:57] <pr0ton> fmauro, but it's a mass email, i dont want everybody to know who everybody else is
[13:57] <pr0ton> basically it's a mass mail, it's supposed to be sent to each person individually...
[13:58] <fmauro> pr0ton: but? you just said .. their name should show. not getting it
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> ?
[13:58] <pr0ton> pr0ton, if i send a BCC email, the to field is blank ... i just saw on gmail
[13:59] <desss> hi, I have connected 2nd monitor to Ubuntu but somehow I cannot manage it to work, could someone help me, maybe to run some tests to find out where the problem might be
[13:59] <fmauro> pr0ton: yes you have to put one (1) email address in TO: the others in BCC:
[14:00] <wols> desss: either use xrandr or nvidia-settings depending on which driver you use
[14:00] <pr0ton> fmauro, no
[14:00] <desss> in this current situation, Ubuntu runs on one monitor normally and prints a Ubuntu booting screen on another
[14:00] <pr0ton> you dont understand
[14:00] <pr0ton> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08chndy81
[14:00] <pr0ton> i want to mass email. so basically everybody who receives it will be in the To field somehow... the BCC thing was a hack, which didnt work
[14:00] <wols> pr0ton: then you want to use BCC
[14:00] <desss> wols: how to find out which should I need?
[14:00] <pr0ton> i mean, it worked in the sense the email was sent... but it doesnt show the Person's name in the To, it's blank
[14:01] <wols> no it' snot a hack. it's standard for Email
[14:01] <pr0ton> wols, see the email
[14:01] <fangpeishi> #ss
[14:01] <pr0ton> the link**
[14:01] <fangpeishi> what
[14:01] <wols> desss: which driver do you use?
[14:01] <pr0ton> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08chndy81
[14:01] <pr0ton> the to part is blank
[14:01] <desss> wols: to be honest I am not sure
[14:01] <fmauro> pr0ton: yes I see the issue. how about creating a group in gmail?
[14:01] <wols> pr0ton: then use a mailinlist manager
[14:02] <wols> desss: what videocard?
[14:02] <pr0ton> wols, is there any desktop client on ubuntu for that?
[14:02] <fangpeishi> ubuntu
[14:02] <fangpeishi> #ubuntu
[14:02] <wols> pr0ton: no. it's a mailinglist manager. it's server software. at most has a web interface
[14:02] <pr0ton> fmauro, i dont use a gmail account for sending an email... i'm just pulling emails from my django script, and sending an email for now
[14:02] <wols> !info mailman
[14:02] <airtonix> why does gedit still think my ssh connections in nautilus are mounted under ~/.gvfs ?
[14:02] <pr0ton> wols, is it CLI?
[14:03] <desss> wols: it is nVidia but I am not 100% sure about that
[14:04] <wols> desss: lspci -nn |grep VGA     glxinfo |grep -i render
[14:04] <desss> I got 2 video cards, one on the motherboard, one extern, since now I only used the extern one, Ubuntu installed some nVidia drivers for that if I remember well
[14:05] <wols> desss: there are two kinds of nvidia drivers possible. actually 4
[14:05] <wols> *3
[14:05] <hoopjumping> just wanted to report that the other hard drive was safely unplugged, so yes, you can unplug unmounted sata drives without ill effect
[14:05] <desss> wols: glxinfo does not exist
[14:05] <wols> desss: then I suggest you install it
[14:06] <desss> apt-get glxinfo?
[14:06] <desss> install
[14:06] <jame> npru
[14:06] <jame> hotmail
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> desss, Don't forget sudo.
[14:07] <jame> exit
[14:07] <desss> Sidewinder1: it cannot find glxinfo package
[14:07]  * airtonix rages
[14:07] <airtonix> why does nautilus not use gvfs anymore ?!?!?!?
[14:07] <airtonix> it breaks gedit
[14:08] <Sidewinder1> desss, I mostly use Synaptic for those type things...
[14:08] <dm04> hi all, in ubuntu 9.10, how do i open a terminal session and call my sh script at login? i googled for an hour now and tried a lot of things but i can't get it working. anyone?
[14:08] <desss> Sidewinder1: apt-cache search glxinfo
[14:09] <desss> mesa-utils - Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[14:09] <wols> !autostart
[14:09] <desss> maybe I should install this?
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !eol dm04
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !eol | dm04
[14:10] <airtonix> why does nautilus not use gvfs anymore, i;m connected to a ssh server in nautilus................i see the files..............but ~/.gvfs is empty.!?!?!
[14:10] <dm04> thank you sidewinder1 and wols, i guess i will have to upgrade to newest distro then
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> NP
[14:13] <zatan> Hi, how can I change python version ? default version now is 2.6.6 I want to change in to 2.7.1+ symlink showing python -> /usr/bin/python2.7    but its not using 2.7 how can I change it ?
[14:13] <wols> zatan: you can't
[14:13] <zatan> wols what do you mean I CANT ?
[14:15] <wols> I mean if you do switch the symlinks, lots of bad things will happen and various software will break
[14:15] <benedict> hi, doing "ps -A | grep blue" shows me that i have bluetooth running. i removed every packages that is connectied to bloethooth in any way... still it's here! what did i forget?
[14:15] <wols> benedict: what program is running?
[14:15] <f3bruary> I cant send files via bluetooth to my ubuntu machine. But the other way around works fine.
[14:17] <zatan> wols, but I CAN , thank I changed by myself
[14:17] <benedict> wols: i don't get you... a process called bluetooth is running... don't knwo where it's coming from... as i said, i purged all blue* realted packages i can find... i don't know where this process is coming from...
[14:17] <TuxBrother> who has expierence with boot procedures?
[14:17] <makara> i've got a huawei e153 mobile broadband modem. on Natty i pop down the network icon and sometimes get the option 'Autoconnect usb0' sometimes 'Autoconnect Ethernet' sometimes nothing. What are these options about?
[14:18] <wols> benedict: paste the bluetooth line please
[14:18] <tjiggi_fo> TuxBrother, ask and find out
[14:18] <benedict> t@box:~$ ps -A | grep blue 696 ?        00:00:00 bluetooth
[14:18] <benedict> t@box:~$ ps -A | grep blue 696 ?        00:00:00 bluetooth wols
[14:19] <wols> benedict: use aux
[14:20] <desss> wols: I installed glxinfo
[14:20] <alex--> Which IRC channel is for help with Squeezebox server?
[14:21] <benedict> wols: plz join pastete
[14:21] <desss> also I found out a weird thing, when I log out from Ubuntu, my 2nd monitors blinks and a Ubuntu boot screen appears
[14:21] <wols> benedict: what is pastete?
[14:21] <desss> still I can not work with the 2nd monitor though
[14:21] <wols> desss: normal. X is restarted then
[14:21] <benedict> wols: jsut temporay so that i can paste the lines
[14:22] <desss> wols: but the 2nd monitor does not work, I cannot see it in the monitor setup
[14:22] <benedict> wols: don't wnat to spam the channel and do not know how to make private chat with irssi right now
[14:23] <wols> benedict: single line is not channel spam.
[14:23] <benedict> box:~$ ps -aux | grep blue
[14:23] <benedict> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[14:23] <benedict> root       696  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:57   0:00 [bluetooth]
[14:23] <wols> benedict: not a process but a kernel pseudeo process
[14:23] <Cerrdor> if there is no workspace in my panel where do I find it to add it?
[14:23] <wols> can't remove it unless you blacklist the bluetooth module in the kernel
[14:23] <benedict> wols: how do you know?
[14:24] <TuxBrother> someone having expierence installing windows after ubuntu, dualboot in a VHD?
[14:24] <wols> benedict: the brackets, no memory used, etc
[14:24] <wols> TuxBrother: why do you dualboot a VM?
[14:24] <benedict> wols: so anything i can do about it?
[14:24] <alex--> Who can help me with Squeezebox server?
[14:24] <TuxBrother> no
[14:24] <TuxBrother> I don't do that
[14:24] <wols> benedict: I just told you what you can do. but why do you want it gone?
[14:25] <benedict> wols: it's strange that it comes up in my process list, although everything connected to bluetooth is removed
[14:25] <TuxBrother> I want to keep it as clean as possible
[14:25] <wols> benedict: no it's not strange
[14:25] <tjiggi_fo> Cerrdor, rightclick the panel and then choose "Workspace Switcher"
[14:25] <wols> TuxBrother: a VHD is a format used for VM images
[14:26] <benedict> wols: i don'Ät use bluetooth... and got interested, after it was/is so difficult to remove...
[14:26] <wols> !pm | TuxBrother
[14:26] <benedict> wols: did i miss something? how can i remaove it?
[14:26] <wols> benedict: you can probably blacklist if you insist
[14:26] <Cerrdor> IM using nodezero, so which menu would I find it under?
[14:26] <girlygirl> Does anyone no how to physically boot a .img, .vhd or similar physically with grub2?
[14:26] <Cerrdor> right click has no workspace
[14:26] <wols> TuxBrother: stop spamming people in PM!
[14:26] <benedict> wols: hm ok... does it influence my system performance?
[14:26] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:27] <desss> could anyone help me with dual monitors in Ubuntu, so far the other monitor acts like it is not even connected (it is plugged though) - to run some tests maybe?
[14:27] <wols> girlygirl: how will your OS inside the image file access the actual disk?
[14:27] <tjiggi_fo> Cerrdor, go ask in nodezero support forums
[14:27] <TuxBrother> wols: I don't spam
[14:27] <ecreeves> has anyone seen a problem in 11.04 where the login password and keyring password are identical but after logging in you are prompted multiple (i'm up to 3 now from 2 previously) times for the keyring password?
[14:27] <TuxBrother> wols: but if you don't want to help, I will go to another channel
[14:27] <girlygirl> ikonia: wols: like this http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/ff944958
[14:28] <wols> 16:27 <TuxBrother> sorry, but in here you don't have the nubcakes    YOU are the "nubcake"
[14:28] <Cerrdor> so theres no way to do it through Ubuntu menus
[14:28] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:28] <TuxBrother> Oh, I bet you are
[14:28] <oCean> TuxBrother: stop that
[14:28] <TuxBrother> better you'd stop that
[14:28] <oCean> TuxBrother: drop that discussion now, ok?
[14:28] <girlygirl> ikonia: wols : I managed with .iso ... under windows it is possible to boot a .vhd found on filesystem
[14:28] <ikonia> girlygirl: you can't boot a vhd
[14:29] <TuxBrother> oCean: I ain't your dog
[14:29] <girlygirl> ikonia: I have done it on windows and it works perfectly well
[14:29] <ikonia> girlygirl: you're not asking about windows,
[14:29] <girlygirl> ikonia: and I managed img before but forgot how
[14:30] <ikonia> girlygirl: I didn't say img - I said vhd
[14:30] <girlygirl> under linux I think it had some sort of other loader grub chainloaded into
[14:30] <wols> girlygirl: grub can do it on its own
[14:30] <benedict> wols: since ot seems like ths process is not doing anything (=reducing my avail. system ressource) i think i'll leave it--- i was merely worried that my system is f*ckd up in a way, because i still have ths process although i removed everything realated to it... thank you for your advice, help and patience
[14:30] <girlygirl> wols: Thanks could you explain how
[14:31] <oCean> benedict: mind your language here, please
[14:32] <benedict> oCean: ok, sry
[14:32] <oCean> thanks
[14:34] <n1x4> mornin
[14:34] <wols> girlygirl: e.g. http://paste.debian.net/124679/ but there are even some other ways. memdisk which is part of syslinux for example
[14:35] <girlygirl> wols: Would this work on grub2?
[14:35] <krux> http://www.vmlite.com/appliances/ubuntu-1104-readme.html
[14:36] <wols> yes
[14:36] <robertf> Hello
[14:36] <wols> krux: this ia a VHD for a VM. different thing
[14:36] <robertf> How to get a list who i'm subscribed to the mailing list (lists.ubuntu.com)
[14:37] <wols> robertf: if you could get this it would be a huge privacy breach
[14:40] <himcesjf> Is there any plan to continue to ship Ubuntu CD's?
[14:40] <alex--> who can help me out with squeezebox?
[14:40] <ikonia> !shipit > himcesjf
[14:41] <wols> alex--: ask your real question(s)
[14:41] <himcesjf> ikonia: I've seen that message myself before asking the question. Is there any plan to *continue*..
[14:41] <alex--> squeezebox says: music system not found, how to fix this?
[14:41] <wols> himcesjf: it's been stopped. there is no continuation, or it wouldn't have stopped
[14:42] <ikonia> himcesjf: ask canonical
[14:42] <soreau> alex--: Does your audio work?
[14:42] <alex--> soreau: of my server or my pc?
[14:42] <soreau> alex--: Well I assume squeezebox is a player..
[14:42] <CatFish> ya
[14:42] <soreau> !info sqeezebox
[14:42] <soreau> !info squeezebox
[14:42] <ikonia> soreau: it's a hardware device
[14:42] <soreau> hm
[14:42] <soreau> ikonia: Ah ok
[14:42] <alex--> ikonia: no?
[14:43] <alex--> sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list       deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main                sudo apt-get install squeezeboxserver
[14:43] <anti_system> hey guys
[14:43] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[14:43] <ikonia> alex--: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_(network_music_player)
[14:43] <ikonia> hence the confusion
[14:44] <alex--> ikonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_Server
[14:44] <alex--> ikonia: The software is designed for streaming music over a network, allowing users to play their music collections from virtually anywhere there is an Internet connection.
[14:44] <anti_system> i install edubuntu 11.04 with ltsp and when i try to login on thin client
[14:44] <anti_system> only say: reponse from server, restarting
[14:44] <ikonia> alex--: yes, I see what the software does,
[14:44] <soreau> alex--: We can't really support programs that are not included in ubuntu repos
[14:44] <tomasm-> hi, im trying to install phpize via 'apt-get install php5-dev', and i get an error saying linux-libc-dev could not be found (i get a 404 not found from security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/lucid-updates/main), any ideas whats wrong?
[14:44] <alex--> where can I get support then?
[14:45] <wols> tomasm-: where do you install this php5-dev from?
[14:45] <soreau> alex--: Try to find out if they have an irc channel
[14:45] <alex--> soreau: they have, but it's empty
[14:45] <ikonia> alex--: where did you get the software from ?
[14:45] <tomasm-> wols, i dunno, apt-get php5-dev .... apparently i needed to run apt-get update first, now its ok
[14:46] <alex--> ikonia: sudo nano/etc/apt/sources.list       deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main                sudo apt-get install squeezeboxserver
[14:46] <soreau> alex--: Are you sure you're on the right server?
[14:46] <alex--> freenode
[14:46] <wols> tomasm-: apt-cache policy <package> shows you were from something gets installed
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> alex--, Did you search/ask in www.ubuntuforums.org?
[14:46] <Soothsayer> BrainBug, you still here?
[14:47] <Soothsayer> why can't I ping any host or ip address?
[14:47] <alex--> soreau: http://squeezebox.rubyforge.org/                  The mailing list is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>The FreeNode IRC channel is #squeezebox.
[14:47] <wols> alex--: slimdevices.com is not a ubuntu repo. ask the slimdevices people about their software
[14:47] <alex--> Soothsayer: maybe your firewall
[14:47] <Soothsayer> alex--, i always get a 104 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 103028ms
[14:47] <Soothsayer> alex--, i haven't setup a firewall myself. Is there any by default?
[14:47] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: maybe you don't have true internet connection, maybe you have a proxy
[14:47] <soreau> alex--: Yep, it's empty alright. Maybe try a generic channel like ##linux
[14:48] <ikonia> alex--: I'm not %100 certain as the documentation isn't good, but that package appears to be built for debian
[14:48] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, I'm connected wireless to my router. All other laptops (windows) in my house can connect to it and ping any host.
[14:48] <alex--> ikonia: http://www.studiob.co.za/setupnas.html    and then scroll to Installing Squeezebox Server
[14:48] <n1x4> hola my children...lol hows it goin
[14:49] <alex--> n1x4: what's hola?
[14:49] <Sidewinder1> Hello.
[14:49] <benedict> alex--: spanish
[14:49] <ikonia> alex--: that's just someones website, that doesn't mean it's correct
[14:49] <alex--> ikonia: it works for him
[14:49] <alex--> benedict: why are you talking spanish in an english channel?
[14:49] <ikonia> alex--: I'll right a website that says it doesn't work for me, does that make it fact ?
[14:49] <n1x4> b/c i can mate
[14:49]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[14:49] <alex--> ikonia: no, only if it works
[14:50] <n1x4> i do beleie the rest of that was in eng if imnot mistaken
[14:50] <ikonia> alex--: I'm just going by what I'm reading on the logictech site, which is the official site that provides it, which suggests it's for debian
[14:50] <jdear> is a how to, for makting a SAN of ubuntu /ISCSI basic avalibal?
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you read and paste here the content of /etc/resolv.conf
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> n1x4, No worries...
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: pastevin
[14:50] <IdleOne> !ot | n1x4
[14:50] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: s/pastevin/pastebin
[14:50] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, ok one sec
[14:51] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, here you go: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EjR1Hbnn
[14:51] <n1x4> is there a networking chan anywhere?? got an issure using a wet54g bridge
[14:52] <IdleOne> n1x4: ##networking
[14:52] <n1x4> thnx
[14:52] <girlygirl____> any possibility of Office 2010 VISIO working in wine?
[14:52] <ikonia> girlygirl____: ask the wine chaps, ##winehq and check the app db
[14:52] <ikonia> !appdb > girlygirl____
[14:53] <girlygirl____> ikonia: thanks I will do that
[14:53] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: the resolv.conf seems to be ok, can you try the host comand instead of ping?
[14:53] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Imn on ubuntu 11.04 >> please what tool can I use to download flash videos from any website at all.
[14:53] <wh1zz0> ?
[14:54] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, works. I did a host google.com and it resolved it
[14:55] <WaltherFI> wh1zz0: i don't think downloading the content from flash videos is legit enough to be discussed at #ubuntu
[14:55] <wh1zz0> I'm a member of a certain site and the videos come up as a pop up, I would really love to save them for reference purpose.. Please any help would be appreciated. What tool can I get on ubuntu that will enable me achieve this?
[14:55] <seven__> :>
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !curl |wh1zz0
[14:56] <IdleOne> wh1zz0: try searching the firefox addon page for "video download helper"
[14:56] <wh1zz0> I use chrome
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !info curl |wh1zz0
[14:56] <wols> wh1zz0: flash?
[14:56] <IdleOne> wh1zz0: then check chromes addon page
[14:56] <wh1zz0> Yeah fash
[14:56] <diverdude> What should i install to get the entire compile environment with gcc and cc ?
[14:56] <theadmin> diverdude: build-essential
[14:56] <wols> wh1zz0: then check your /tmp when you watched it before you close the flash applet
[14:56] <wh1zz0> !info flash |wh1zz0
[14:57] <theadmin> wh1zz0: It's flashplugin-installer IIRC
[14:57] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: you are using dhcp or manual network configuration?
[14:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: browsers have plugins for it
[14:57] <anti_system> how can i create users on server (edubuntu 11.04) to use on ltsp thin clients?
[14:57] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, manual address
[14:57] <wh1zz0> The ones I saw on that page can only download YouTube videos
[14:57] <ikonia> anti_system: what are your ltsp clients authenticating against
[14:57] <ikonia> wh1zz0: then that's the limitation
[14:57] <WaltherFI> !build-essentials | diverdude
[14:57] <anti_system> ikonia?
[14:58] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, since I want a static ip from my router.
[14:58] <WaltherFI> diverdude: build-essentials is the meta-package you'll want
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, Have you tries "UnPlug", it's a FF add-on, but may work in chrome?
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> tried, even.
[14:58] <ikonia> anti_system: what are your ltsp clients authenticating their users again
[14:58] <diverdude> and zlib is just zlib?
[14:58] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you pastebin the content of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:59] <wh1zz0> Okie let me check
[14:59] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, just two lines. auto lo      +       iface lo inet loopback
[15:00] <Sora1995> So... all day I've been trying to get packages to install on 11.04, but I keep gettingn errors, such as this one http://pastebin.com/BbAcNgPg and this one http://pastebin.com/cinXks9K I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong
[15:00] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: ic.
[15:00] <Sanjib> lonely programmer wants to unmount root to search for a deleted file
[15:00] <anti_system> ikonia i use 1 thin client and create a teste user on the server side and when try to login on thin client the gdm says: reponse from server, restarting
[15:01] <Sanjib> any ideas
[15:01] <ikonia> anti_system: what authentication system is the ltsp client using for authenticate it's suers
[15:02] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: are you sure you have the correct gateway configured?
[15:02] <dr_willis> Sanjib,  i always use a live cd for such tasks.
[15:02] <Sanjib> but this is on aws
[15:02] <dr_willis> No idea what an 'aws' is
[15:03] <Sanjib> so i guess that us not an option
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> Sanjib, Do it from a LiveCD?
[15:03] <Sanjib> amazon web service
[15:03] <Sanjib> its a cloud system
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> !enter | San
[15:03] <dr_willis> Im not sure how 'officially' supported all these "AWS' and other virtual servbrt services are by this channel.   I do know.. I dont know diddly about them so cant offer any suggestions.
[15:04] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, hmm one sec
[15:04] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: don't know if I can help any further, you can try to ask for halp in #networking
[15:04] <Protomega> sudo apt-get install nmap
[15:04] <Protomega> is nmap the file path?
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> dr_willis, Beat ma ahain; I give up...Sooner or later I'll learn to type.
[15:04] <theadmin> Protomega: Package name
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> me, even.
[15:04] <synapse> If I do a dist upgrade, will it blow away my nvidia config for X like usual?
[15:05] <diverdude> I am trying to configure subversion but when i run configure script i get the error: configure: error: subversion requires zlib. How do i install this?
[15:05] <ikonia> synapse: shouldn't do
[15:05] <ikonia> synapse: back it up just in case
[15:05] <Protomega> The package name would be the file name of the .tar.gz?
[15:05] <dr_willis> synapse,  ive nver had it remove the xorg.conf, it should at least back it up. BUT if a upgrade installs the proper nvidia drivers.. is anotgher story.
[15:05] <synapse> k
[15:05] <theadmin> diverdude: How about installing SVN from repositories?
[15:05] <theadmin> !APT | Protomega
[15:05] <synapse> well, the upgrade installing the drivers is the problem probably
[15:05] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, see this, http://i.imgur.com/ySYxM.png
[15:05] <diverdude> theadmin, well i cant because i have a non-default installation of apache
[15:06] <Sanjib> will it be possible to add a new drive and do from there?
[15:06] <synapse> I've had it screw up xorg
[15:06] <theadmin> !find zlib
[15:06] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, <IP_ADDRESS> is my router
[15:06] <Protomega> Thank you theadmin :)
[15:06] <diverdude> theadmin, i am using an bitnami ubuntu image
[15:06] <Sora1995> So, anyone got a clue?
[15:06] <erus`> can i restore the old interface in ubuntu 11?
[15:06] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[15:06] <dr_willis> !classic | erus`
[15:07] <diverdude> any1+?
[15:07] <erus`> super
[15:07] <dr_willis> erus`,  get used to unity.. classic will be removed in the next release.....
[15:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: Ouch.
[15:07] <ikonia> diverdude: why are you not using the apache install from ubuntu ?
[15:07] <dr_willis> with the various addons and tips from askubuntu and webupd8 - i got unity working decently well for me.
[15:07] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: check ipconfig on working windows to make sure the gateway is the same
[15:07] <theadmin> dr_willis: Sounds like time for everyone to switch to Xfce huh?
[15:08] <dr_willis> theadmin,  i perfer lubuntu for a 'old-skool' style desktop. :)
[15:08] <diverdude> ikonia, because the image comes with a preinstalled apache. its an bitnami image
[15:08] <Protomega> erus` But isn't Ubuntu completely customizable?
[15:08] <ikonia> diverdude: oh, so this isn't a proper ubuntu install ?
[15:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: Xfce just gives a GNOME2-like feeling
[15:08] <dr_willis> You can alwyas use somthin other then unity.. :)
[15:08] <Soothsayer> dr_willis, why, can't you put classic back easily?
[15:08] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  no idea. i dont worry about it.. the old gnome is being taken out back and burried...
[15:08] <diverdude> ikonia, no it is a bitnami image hosted on amazon, but it is a ubuntu image
[15:08] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, yes it is. for sure. Even going to <IP_ADDRESS> takes me to the router panel.
[15:09] <ikonia> diverdude: it's modified I suggest using bitnami's support for that
[15:09] <Soothsayer> dr_willis, what about gnome3 getting better? i still have to try it.
[15:09] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  i would guess that the 'classic' is a ctually unity just tweaked to LOOK like the old gnome. it is not 100% identical to the old gnome.
[15:09] <ikonia> diverdude: http://bitnami.org/faq
[15:09] <dr_willis> Soothsayer,  thats to be optional in 11.10
[15:09] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: are you sure you static ip is not in the dhcp range?
[15:09] <destinydriven> hey guys I just got an hp pavilion dvt7-6100 with switchable graphics: intel i915 and amd/ati radeon 6770. I'm having the same problem as this guy here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=122728
[15:10] <diverdude> ikonia, they have sucky support
[15:10] <wh1zz0> Unplus doesn't wor anymore
[15:10] <wh1zz0> doesnt work anymore
[15:10] <ikonia> diverdude: that's not our fault, we don't pickup the slack for these guys, it's their business
[15:10] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, well the starting ip address in the router panel for the DHCP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:10] <Soothsayer> mine .25
[15:10] <Soothsayer> so i guess im not.
[15:11] <diverdude> ikonia, my question is not even bitnami related. its just "how do i install zlib on ubuntu"
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: it is - as it's a modified system,
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: we won't support it,
[15:11] <diverdude> omg
[15:11] <diverdude> that is just stupid
[15:11] <Soothsayer> Aleuck, the only thing pings successfully is my router's address / gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:11] <dr_willis> neat unity trick -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[15:11] <theadmin> diverdude: That's Ubuntu.
[15:11] <ikonia> diverdude: you chose to use it
[15:11] <wols> diverdude: ask ##linux
[15:11] <theadmin> diverdude: We don't support derivatives, and I know it is stupid
[15:11] <anti_system> ikonia i'm using sshd/gdm to logon thinclient
[15:12] <destinydriven> I wanna know how to power off my radeon card so it doesn't drain my battery so quickly on 11.04
[15:12] <ikonia> anti_system: sorry, that's not the authentication system
[15:12] <ikonia> anti_system: where are you authenticating users
[15:12] <Aleuck> Soothsayer: the other pcs dont?
[15:12] <wh1zz0> wols: I just checked a video tutorial on youtube about checking /tmp folder but that method doesn't work anymore since flash updated. ...&& Sidewinder1 Just checked but it doesn't work anymore.
[15:12] <karmadragon> hey all
[15:12] <wols> destinydriven: so have you checked /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch ?
[15:13] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, :-(
[15:13] <wols> wh1zz0: damn!
[15:13] <reachingperfecti> wifi no detected on lenovo z570 ubuntu 11.04
[15:13] <anti_system> create on server && update image and sshkeys && and try to logon on client
[15:13] <anti_system> i only have 1
[15:13] <csdserver> hey all, i'm trying to figure out the safest way to uninstall ubuntu (i have two ubuntu filesystems on one drive) anyone know what is the best way to do this?
[15:13] <destinydriven> wols: no I haven't. I would need guidance before I go changing up stuff cuz I'm new to linux
[15:14] <wols> destinydriven: check if the file exists
[15:14] <destinydriven> wols: cool
[15:14] <anti_system> ikonia when i logon server user work
[15:14] <anti_system> not on clients
[15:14] <wh1zz0> ikonia: I didn't get the last message before I was banned on $ubuntu-offtopic.. The window closed errorneously, sorry but why was I banned?
[15:14] <ikonia> wh1zz0: please join #ubuntu-ops
[15:15] <wh1zz0> ikonia: Just did.. no response yet
[15:16] <dr_willis> csdserver,  totally depends on what your end goal is..  and what os's you want to keep
[15:16] <csdserver> well, i just need to concatenate filespace into this one install
[15:16] <wols> csdserver: you cannot "Uninstall" an OS. all you can do is overwrite it with something else
[15:17] <dm04> hi all, how do i open a terminal and a sh script when i log in on ubuntu 10.04.3, i tried googling and a few things but nothing works, help is appreciated.
[15:17] <dr_willis> csdserver,  one install of what?  use gparted and a live cd to delte/manage partitons is what i normally do.. but you will have to pay attention to your bootloaders.
[15:17] <Sidewinder1> crosspost > wh1zz0
[15:18] <dr_willis> !autorun
[15:18] <unomi> Hi - I am having an issue where when I open websites I get queried for my keyring password
[15:18] <dr_willis> dm04,  thers an Autostart directory you can copy .destop and executable scripts into..  thats how i often do it
[15:18] <unomi> This is somewhat unnerving tbh, anyone have a potential explanation?
[15:19] <csdserver> well this isn't my first go round on the 'uninstalling' part, yeah, that's the thing, last time I partitioned and reallocated space to one of my two ubuntu 11.04 filesystems my grub was completely lost.
[15:19] <dr_willis> :~/.config/autostart
[15:19] <theadmin> !fixgrub | csdserver
[15:19] <diverdude> ikonia, please stop banning people just because you have a personal grudge. that is no way to run a support forum!
[15:19] <dm04> dr_willis, thanks i will try that and let you know if it worked or not
[15:19] <IdleOne> unomi: your browser is asking the keyring if it has the password already saved for those websites. it is not the site itself
[15:19] <dr_willis> csdserver,  you can set up a little flash drive as a 'rescue' grub boot device :) which is a handy trick
[15:19] <theadmin> diverdude: This is NOT a forum, even.
[15:19] <theadmin> Oh, I'm late.
[15:20] <theadmin> ikonia: What actually happened anyway? I skipped the reason for the ban
[15:20] <Sidewinder1> theadmin, Yea, you missed the fun.
[15:20] <ikonia> theadmin: don't worry about it
[15:20] <csdserver> thats neat doc, i'll do that then.  do you have a link?
[15:20] <anti_system> ikonia when i try sshd  testuser@localhost it works
[15:20]  * Sidewinder1 Hides in the corner. :-)
[15:20] <theadmin> ikonia: Okay.
[15:20] <dr_willis> csdserver,  plug in flash drive run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' select the flash drive... done. :)
[15:21] <dr_willis> csdserver,  good use for those litte bity old flash drives.. size dosent matter much.
[15:21] <csdserver> nice, pre-format of jump drive would be just unallocated ms-dos in gparted right?
[15:21] <dr_willis> csdserver,  be carefull oryou can install grub to hd's you may not want grub on.
[15:21] <dr_willis> grub is on the mbr. so the filesystem dont matter i belive.
[15:21] <destinydriven> wols: I get bash: cd: /sys/kernel/debug/: Permission denied
[15:22] <DrHalan> hey, when using the catalyst drivers the mouse sometimes gets "stuck" in the lower right corner of my screen. Doesn't happen with the open source driver though...
[15:22] <dr_willis> but this does NOT put the grub files on the flash.. it just puts grub on the mbr, the files still come from your normal install.
[15:22] <wols> destinydriven: sudo bash   then try again
[15:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, the drive you install to does
[15:22] <destinydriven> wols: ahh thanks
[15:22] <wols> DrHalan: catalyst or fglrx from the ubuntu repos?
[15:22] <dr_willis> theadmin,  rght - it still gets the actual files from the install.. just the mbr is on the flash. so even a 128mb flash can work.
[15:23] <dm04> dr_willis: i already have a file there named startup.sh.desktop and that doesn't seem to work. it's set to Exec=sudo su /home/dm/Desktop/startup.sh is that correct or did i do anything wrong?
[15:23] <dr_willis> It would be a neat trick to put the /boot/ on a backup flash.. but keeping it updated may be harder.
[15:23] <DrHalan> wols flgrx from the repos and also flgrx from the x-updates ppa.. 3d acceleration works fine though :/
[15:23] <Guest80185> hi: how is the status of ati drivers on linux? Are there any major issues with ati cards on laptops? Would you reccomend any ati card on a laptop or nvidia is still the best option?
[15:23] <dr_willis> dm04,  i imagine 'exec=sudo su ' is totally wrong...
[15:23] <wols> dr_willis: easy. /boot/grub/ a symlink to whatever you want and you're done
[15:23] <dr_willis> dm04,  what is the script supposed t do..
[15:23] <csdserver> not until they make jump drives with wifi capability...
[15:23] <Guest80185> thank you in advance for answers
[15:23] <DrHalan> Guest80185: imo if you want to use open-source drivers ati is a better option now...
[15:24] <destinydriven> wols: file exists and contains 0:DIS: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0
[15:24] <destinydriven> 1:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[15:24] <asganafer> ati drivers don't work very well in linux. I'he got a lot of problems