[10:01] <aujordanh> starscream[2] , not that i know of, but that is more of a hardware issue and could better be solved snooping around hardware forums
[10:01] <Seveas> micahcowan, japanese keyboard
[10:01] <sotired> it was working, i didnt have probs until my wireless config failed
[10:02] <micahcowan> oh.... lucky....   :-)
[10:02] <gjoogjoob> wtf
[10:02] <_jeff> how do you add a module to you rkernel?
[10:02] <_jeff> how do you see your kernel version?
[10:02] <Seveas> _jeff, modprobe module_name
[10:02] <godtvisken> Hey.. I have `msttcorefonts' installed (through apt-get), but in OpenOffice I cannot find the `Times New Roman' font listed. What's wrong?
[10:02] <Seveas> _jeff, uname -r
[10:02] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob - check your repositories
[10:02] <dave> I just downloaded some cups drivers (debian package) it installed so in the ubuntu cups printer setup where do i look for the drivers ( where is the default cups drivers directory?)\
[10:03] <rosshend> whats the best place to put your swap partitions mount point? im installing ubuntu for the first time
[10:03] <Seveas> rosshend, swap partitions don't have a mount point.
[10:03] <rosshend> seveas.. really.. ok
[10:04] <NickGarvey> rosshend: yeah, its just "swapon -a"
[10:04] <_jeff> Seveas: thanks mate
[10:04] <_jeff> Seveas: maybe you might be able to help me with something
[10:04] <sorush20> I want my scanner to work with ubuntu...  Also, it is using "ati" instead of "radeon" drivers, so there isn't direct rendering. Since both deal with the xorg.conf, which should I try to fix first?
[10:05] <NickGarvey> !fixres > fnoo
[10:05] <Dex-Freudii> Seveas, why not with the CD?
[10:05] <NickGarvey> fnoo: that should fix that first part
[10:05] <pekay> !restartingkde
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about restartingkde - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:06] <Seveas> Dex-Freudii, the shipit cd's cannot be used for upgrades
[10:06] <pekay> how i restart kde?
[10:06] <Seveas> pekay, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> pekay: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:06] <NickGarvey> pekay: ctrl alt.. yeah..
[10:06] <fnoo> NickGarvey: OK, but do I want to fix it first? I've had problems before where one fix would undo the other.
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> or, from a console, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:06] <_jeff> Seveas: the packages were compiz quinn, aiglx packages and a bunch of gnome desktop packages. when i restarted my computer as required, my wireless network card was not recognized anymore as a wireless network adapter and became unknown to the device manager
[10:06] <NickGarvey> fnoo: no idea heh, my graphics card is not supported so I have never played with that kind of stuff
[10:07] <steveire> If I rm * there is no confirmation, and the data is unrecoverabl, right?
[10:07] <_jeff> Seveas: any ideas?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> steveire: yeap
[10:07] <NickGarvey> steveire: um, kind of.. if the files are write protected it will ask
[10:07] <murph2481> question....i need to reinstall windows....will windows overright my MBR and remove GRUB? if so how can i restore GRUB after i reinstall windows so I can still duel boot?
[10:07] <NickGarvey> steveire: and there might be a way to recover them depending on your filesystem.. _might
[10:07] <steveire> It should need an -f switch for that
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> steveire: of course, if you don't have permissions, it will complain.
[10:07] <rosshend> where do i find an install tutorial online? i cant find one in the wiki.
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[10:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:08] <NickGarvey> !grub > murph2481
[10:08] <steveire> I created some dummy files and it didn't complain
[10:08] <NickGarvey> steveire: thats because the permissions were +w
[10:08] <NickGarvey> steveire: in general, no it won't ask
[10:08] <Coag> woot my ubuntu cds came in today
[10:09] <Albertop> Seveas, thanks for the help. Now it works. Don't know why, but I'm connected! :))
[10:09] <fnoo> steveire: There are some ways to recover deleted files, but it's not guarenteed.
[10:09] <NickGarvey> Coag: :)
[10:09] <murph2481> NickGarvey thank yoU :)
[10:10] <steveire> http://pie.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054972075 <<< in relation to this thread btw.
[10:10] <BobSongs> Greetings one and all. Question for anyone who has experience with MSN file transfers: Is aMSN any faster at sending/receiving files than Gaim is?
[10:10] <BobSongs> I find Gaim to be horribly slow. No fault of Gaim's of course.
[10:10] <NickGarvey> whoa.. not a nice quit message
[10:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hey, erm...it's typically the msn server that determines speed
[10:11] <rustlerharv> i find gaim not to work for file most the time
[10:11] <steveO_> gaim sucks.
[10:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: my gaim works fine and seems pretty fast, but ive never used amsn so i can't compare
[10:11] <steveO_> i have issues with it on windows too.
[10:11] <NickGarvey> I like gaim
[10:11] <NickGarvey> for everything cept irc
[10:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Dodzey! You're... still here? Good grief. ;) Good to hear from you again.
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> man, if gaim looked like adium, it would rock.
[10:12] <rustlerharv> i find gaim only works for file transfer etween gaim users
[10:12] <steveO_> gaim seemed OK at first then as of late got flakey in my experience and a few others i've talked too.  not sure why it's flakey for some and not for others.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> funny, since adium is based on the same libs as gaim
[10:12] <nicholaspaul> If I looked like Adium, Id rock...
[10:12] <Dodzey> bobsongs: i'm not *still* here, i just open IRC again about 20mins or so ago
[10:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol! Well, I just hopped on too.
[10:12] <BobSongs> Dodzey:  You find Gaim gives you good transfer rates?
[10:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey:    Are you on dial up or high speed?
[10:13] <krim> Er, is it possible to delete a newly started thread in ubuntuforums.org ? I pressed "edit/delete" but I don't see any delete button.
[10:13] <Albertop> BobSongs, gaim on MSN can't give high transfer rates. It uses the old MSN protocol.
[10:13] <Dodzey> BobSongs: highspeed
[10:13] <Albertop> At least in 1.5
[10:13] <BobSongs> krim:    You may have to ask a moderator to delete a thread.
[10:14] <BobSongs> Dodzey:    Under Windows I used to get such fast transfers. In Gaim the best way I can describe it is "painful".
[10:14] <krim> BobSongs, Thanks.
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Welcome To Linux BobSongs :)
[10:14] <Pseudonym> Hey guys, I am having problems with sound all of a sudden... sound on my computer is only working in a few apps (notably xmms and totem) and the volume control doesn't do anything... what could be the root of my problem?
[10:14] <Dodzey> Dodzey: hmm..yeah...just try aMSN and the like, you can always remove it
[10:15] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     Many thanks! I've used Breezy Badger since its release and I'm now comfortably using Dapper.
[10:15] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hmm..yeah...just try aMSN and the like, you can always remove it....ive found it to be as fast as live messenger was in windows nehow
[10:15] <verbose> does ubuntu save a dmesg.boot anywhere?
[10:15] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     But I was with (blushes) Windows since version 3.0.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> BobSongs: good to see the light, aint it?
[10:16] <NickGarvey> Pseudonym: I'm not sure why this happens or how to fix it, but often, only one application can use the sound card at a time
[10:16] <rustlerharv> i still have to use windows for crap
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> NickaNicka: this is a problem with most built-in sound cards that don't provide an onboard mixer. Try !dmix
[10:16] <Pseudonym> That is not the issue; things that should work all of a sudden don't ie, the volume control.
[10:17] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:      heeheehee. Yeah; y'know... DOS & Win 3.1 were actually fun in their time. And I kinda miss the fun of tinkering "under the hood" shall we say. Ubuntu has brought that fun back to computing. XP kinda got boring fast.
[10:17] <frenkel> i just installed monodevelop in dapper
[10:17] <frenkel> and i get this error when starting it
[10:17] <MilesAttacca> I just installed the nvidia-glx deb package, but in the terminal I was given an error saying I have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Since "nv" isn't there at all (Generic Video Card, vesa, PCI:0:5:0), how should I proceed?
[10:18] <frenkel> Unhandled Exception: System.Configuration.ConfigurationException: Cannot find /etc/mono/1.0/machine.config ()
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Milchmann: change Driver "whatever" to Driver "nvidia"
[10:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      I just installed aMSN in hopes that file transfers might pick up a bit. Besides. I believe MSFT changes their transfer protocols from time to time -- hence the frequent updates to MSN Messenger. And the current version of Gaim may not be up to spec.
[10:18] <frenkel> how can i solve that?
[10:18] <frenkel> shouldn't it just work just after install?
[10:18] <rustlerharv> !amule
[10:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about amule - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:19] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> you know how you said it would take ages to resize a partition?
[10:19] <Pseudonym> Curiously... the volume control is working again...
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : please tell me I was wrong.
[10:19] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:     Ages?
[10:19] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> well I only need to resize it so I can free up 10gig, would I still have to wait forever?
[10:19] <StyXman> any good docs on how to get a wifi card work with ndiswrapper?
[10:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs: you could try adium also
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : yes, since its not relative to how much free space you want.
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> adium is osx only, I thought.
[10:20] <starscream[2] > fyrstrtr> what is it relative?
[10:20] <starscream[2] > to
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Ooo. adium, eh? It's in the repos?
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs: actually, no, its just OS X, shit, i always thought there was a linux version
[10:20] <StyXman> any good docs on how to get a wifi card work with ndiswrapper?
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : [a]  how full your drive is [b]  how fragmented it is [c]  x
[10:20] <snooplsm> who here has installed tomcat, i need some help
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, learn something every day
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol
[10:20] <StyXman> uh, sorry for repeating :(
[10:20] <MilesAttacca> I just installed the nvidia-glx deb package, but in the terminal I was given an error saying I have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section from nv to nvidia. Since "nv" isn't there at all (Generic Video Card, vesa, PCI:0:5:0), how should I proceed?
[10:21] <Dodzey> BobSongs: sounds like aMSN will be the bets bet anyway
[10:21] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      You use Mac stuff too?
[10:21] <silentread> MilesAttacca: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: in Section "Device" change Driver "whateverishere" to Driver "nvidia"
[10:22] <Pseudonym> Ok... I think the problem is that for whatever reason the sound server for almost everything was changed away from ALSA... is thier a way to get everything working on ALSA again? for some creepy reason, I don't see the option under sound in system|preferences|sound.
[10:22] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i used to run it under PearPC on my windows box....the performance aint great but its fun to tinker
[10:22] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Isn't that why we work with GNU/Linux? Tinkering?
[10:22] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Do I need to change the identifier?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: no
[10:23] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, but come on...its Mac OS X! :-p...lol
[10:23] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     bwaahahahahahaa
[10:23] <pekay> Someone please, adept _always_ says my database is locked, even when I reboot
[10:24] <Zi3d4n3> Hello
[10:24] <DLinkTrapMode> ..
[10:24] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i came to the conclusion that the interface is nice (but utterly confusing) but its not all its cracked up to be
[10:24] <floppyears> hi
[10:24] <floppyears> I am going to install ubuntu on my mac book pro
[10:24] <floppyears> is there a filesystem that both mac os x can read and linux too ?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: HFS
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: the 'native' osx filesystem
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> Mora: More Grub questions! What should menu.lst on the new drive look like to boot? i've been thru the HOWTO...
[10:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Well. It's probably nicer that DOS's interface:     C:\>
[10:25] <DLinkTrapMode> instead of focusing on ubuntu so much why dont we declear way on microsoft and start blowing shit up
[10:25] <Zi3d4n3> I'm using a webcam and bleutoot usb dongle, Ubuntu seems to have a conflict when both are connected, when bluetooth is connected the webcam cant be accesed. I need help pls.
[10:25] <floppyears> fyrestrtr: oh, so both linux and mac os x can read and write to that file system ?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: yes
[10:25] <Dodzey> DLinkTrapMode: that is the exact kind of thing that got you called a troll in the off-topic channel
[10:26] <Guardian> re
[10:26] <floppyears> fyrestrtr: how good is the filesystem ? is it journaled ? how does it compare to ext3 ?
[10:26] <Guardian> is there a way to remove games ?
[10:26] <Guardian> it depends on the ubuntu pacakge
[10:26] <DLinkTrapMode> Dodzey I am who I am lump it.
[10:26] <Guardian> i don't want to remove more than games
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: don't know about all that I'm afraid. Google it :)
[10:26] <Dodzey> BobSongs: DOS's interface wasn't too bad, it was bad. but not too bad
[10:26] <floppyears> thanks guys
[10:26] <dreamthief> floppyears, hfs is noch journaled
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> floppyears: to be honest, I think osx can also read ext3 (since its just bsd)
[10:26] <pekay> please someone, apt is broken here
[10:26] <dreamthief> only hfs+ is journaled
[10:27] <dreamthief> but linux can't acces hfs+ drives with journaling enabled
[10:27] <docko> can anybody tell me how to execute a php script without apache? on my server running centos php is located in /usr/bin/php, but i'm not able to find it in ubuntu...
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> docko: sudo apt-get install php5-cli -- then php -q file.php
[10:27] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Should I restart the computer to let the new settings take effect, or is there another command I can use?
[10:27] <docko> fyrestrtr, thanx!
[10:28] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: i followed the grub HOWTO, first of all i just got the word GRUB on the screen, wouldnt boot.Copying grub from the old to new drive wont work?
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: restart X, or if its not running, just type from a console sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (if you are using gnome) or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:28] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i still have it on a testbed machine actually, alongside numerous windows installs
[10:28] <steveire> pekay: what is broken?
[10:28] <steveire> !anyone
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: no, you just need to set it up, grub-install /dev/whateveristhebootdrive
[10:28] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  oh i see. tanks!
[10:29] <pekay> steveO_: if i reboot, restart X or w/e, database is always locked
[10:29] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: How do I restart X?
[10:29] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     Well. Linux has what I liked about DOS... and more. It's kind of like DOS where DOS should have been had it lived till today.
[10:29] <npster> What is a good complier for C++ in ubuuntu. I really hate Anjuta. Please specify ?
[10:29] <plhardy> starscream[2] : keep tuned i am installing a (k)ubuntu on a external USB disk i will be able to tell you how to resovle your problem
[10:30] <untung> hi
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> MilesAttacca: from within X, ctrl+alt+backspace, from the console (ie, non-X terminal) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:30] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, except DOS not being scalable enough to live till today...heh
[10:30] <untung> anybody is using monodevelop here?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> npster: Anjunta isn't a compiler, but ignoring that for a second -- you can always try eclipse.
[10:30] <Dodzey> untung: yeah, but aint been using it long
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> Q: Am i the only one missing a RESTART or SHUTDOWN buttons anywhere?
[10:30] <Dodzey> untung: i used to code in .neton windows, so ithought i'd check it out
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: are you running xgl?
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  wassat? I dont think i am ...
[10:31] <npster> Is ti in Synaptic ?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: okay then, ignore what I said :)
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> lol fyrestrtr
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> npster: yes.
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> !info eclipse
[10:31] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:31] <untung> Dodzey: i often need to force the monodevelop to quit.. it freeze
[10:31] <nicholaspaul> I just logout and hit the power button.
[10:31] <BobSongs> ubotu: You're cool, dude.
[10:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about You're cool, dude. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:32] <untung> Dodzey: .neton is new to me
[10:32] <npster> This is for Jva ?
[10:32] <npster> *java
[10:32] <nicholaspaul> !xgl
[10:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:32] <sam_> when does edgy come out?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> npster: yes, but you can use it to program in C++ (and many other languages)
[10:32] <Dodzey> untung: i meant ".net on windows" typo :p
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> sam_: september, I think.
[10:32] <npster> ok
[10:32] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> it completed in about 10 mins, very suspicious, I tried booting XP to see if it was ok and it needs a chkdsk
[10:32] <nicholaspaul> !edgy
[10:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:33] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr>to be fair though I have only had the laptop a few months could that be why?
[10:33] <npster> It is too big, anything else ?
[10:33] <untung> Dodzey... np
[10:33] <MilesAttacca> fyrestrtr: Thanks, seems to be working. Now to play a video to find out. :)
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : I don't know about that to be honest, never did the resize thing.
[10:33] <Dodzey> untung: all i can suggest, is if it does it when you do a specific action...submit a bug report
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> npster: you can use *anything* to write C++ apps. I use vim personally, I also have eclipse installed for other things.
[10:34] <starscream[2] > fyrestrtr> maybes it would take forever on a uber fragged hard drive but I have not removed anything since I got it, just installed stuff to it really, would like to think all the data is clumped in sequential order
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> starscream[2] : you would think that, but such is not always the case with NTFS
[10:35] <untung> Dodzey: it simply freeze when i compile... haven't figure out what the bug is... could it be the mono?
[10:35] <starscream[2] > fyrstrtr> ya, well fingers cross windows comes out of this CHKDSK ok and that it doesnt take long to set up my linux partitions, i was ready for it to take days! so if it safe to resize without a defrag?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> untung: try in ##mono
[10:36] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up on me (usually when a screen saver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & everything's fine...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[10:36] <Dodzey> untung: myne hasn't frozen when compiling, so im not sure
[10:36] <erik_> hi all , i have the libswt-gtk for apt but i dont seem to have libswt-gtk2.so in my/usr/lib or is it located elsewhere?
[10:36] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: im logged on i tried the rescue option and taht way i was able to change my username and password
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> erik_: you aren't trying to debug that azureus bug, are you?
[10:37] <Deko> Ahoy. Does someone have an experience with ATI Radeon 9600 XT GPU under Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[10:37] <BobSongs> General Camera Question:     I have a Logitech Clicksmart 820 WebCam. Anybody in here been able to get it to work in Ubuntu as such?
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> !webcam
[10:37] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:37] <plhardy> <starscream[2] > AFAIK resizing partitions from linux triggers file system checks at windwos restart but it has always worked if windwos was well defragmented before.
[10:37] <erik_> fyrestrtr no i have more sense :) im compiling iRATE
[10:37] <BobSongs> fyrestrtr:      Ahh! So that's how it's done. Thanks!
[10:38] <ArcAnge1> fyrestrtr: which file you said i have to go to
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> erik_: making you irate, is it?
[10:38] <erik_> fyrestrtr a little lol
[10:38] <subpar> quick newb question: I'm trying to add a terminal command to an application launcher on the panel, but the terminal will dissapear, and the command won't run, is there a way I can keep it from doing that?
[10:38] <erik_> haha :)
[10:38] <Spy> how do i give full permissions to users using chmod? Atm i have chmod og+xrw /folder/
[10:39] <Dodzey> BobSongs: which reminds me, i should get myne out of the cupboard and get it set up, its not serving any purpose spying on my mess of computer parts
[10:39] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: i did a sudo grub-install /dev/hdd1 but all i get is GRUB on the screen when i restart... ?
[10:39] <erik_> ive googled but seems libswt-gwt is a mine field lol
[10:39] <npster> Tell me another C++ complier ?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> g++
[10:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey:     lol! I've had a suspicion about what those things do by themselves. You may be on to something. ;-)
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: you need to install it on /dev/hdd (if that really is your drive, more than likely, its /dev/hda)
[10:39] <npster> What is a "daemon" ?
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> npster: a process that runs in the background, a server process.
[10:40] <NickGarvey> daemon*
[10:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: the freakiest part being having it plugged in on windows...theres too many trojeans with the ability to tap into them
[10:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I can't imagine how many uncareful windows users are being spied on...heh
[10:40] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      Wha-a-a-a-a!!! You serious???
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> erik_: I think you can just download it from *anywhere* and copy it to *anywhere* and just pass the path to your app.
[10:40] <plhardy> npster: in some other unamed system it can be called a service.
[10:40] <unfun> Wich program can play all .wmv video files?
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, mplayer
[10:41] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah....it's possible...atleast in the unsecure world of windows it is
[10:41] <rorRuben> Hi friends
[10:41] <BobSongs> I need a broom. I'll be back.
[10:41] <npster> OK
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, unless it has drm
[10:41] <unfun> scot, I got mplayer but there is still some videos I can't play
[10:41] <erik_> fyrestrtr yeah im thinking about just doing that but it *should* be part of the lib ?
[10:41] <rorRuben> I've problems with a NTFS partition with Windows XP, when i try to reboot the pc and select win xp the pc is restarted, I can't entre in win xp or mount the partition too
[10:41] <subpar> unfun, look on their website.. they have other codecs on there
[10:41] <erik_> fyrestrtr ohh well thanks for the hint cheers :)
[10:41] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i wouldn't smash it to a pulp just yet...you're gonna use it in linux remember ;-)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> erik_: I don't know to be honest, java is a funny thing.
[10:41] <scott_> unfun, you need the w32codecs pack
[10:42] <rorRuben> here is the output dor fdisk and fstab file => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19796
[10:42] <unfun> how do i get w32codecs?
[10:42] <erik_> java = bad luck :p thanks 'gain  ... bye all
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> !codecs
[10:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <perl_cont> ??
[10:42] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      Good grief! I realize a PC can become a zombie with the right deposit from a trojan. But this ...
[10:42] <subpar> quick newb question: I'm trying to add a terminal command to an application launcher on the panel, but the terminal will dissapear, and the command won't run, is there a way I can keep it from doing that?
[10:42] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: am i going to run into problems when i reorganise the drives ie. the old master gets removed and the new one gets plugged in as Primary Master?
[10:42] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ill try and find an article on it
[10:42] <nicholaspaul> (sorry to be sucha pain..)
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> nicholaspaul: to be honest, you should not -- beyond the fact that if you were auto-mounting your old master, then it would not mount properly, but that is a minor thing.
[10:43] <sam_> ping
[10:43] <BobSongs> Dodzey:      So, an exclamation mark before a topic rouses ol' ubotu from sleep to put forth a message, eh.
[10:43] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: oh ok.
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> subpar: does the command run normally? I mean, is it erroring out?
[10:44] <BobSongs> !harddrive
[10:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah, like...
[10:44] <Dodzey> !xgl
[10:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:44] <subpar> fyrestrtr:  no, what I'm specifically trying to do is run the sleep program to set an alarm, and it would be easier to press a button then type it out every time
[10:44] <subpar> fyrestrtr: but when I press the panel icon, it'll run it, then close the terminal and the program
[10:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: we should stop messing with the channel, we'll get moaned at...hehe....what IRC lcient are you using?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> subpar: ah, you might need to send it to the background (some-command &
[10:45] <subpar> fyrestrtr: so basically, I just need to keep the terminal from closing
[10:45] <subpar> oh
[10:45] <BobSongs> Dodzey: XChat-GNOME 0.11
[10:45] <subpar> fyrestrtr: what I have in there now is "sleep 8h 30m && xmms /home/subpar/Doc\!/Music/wakeup.m3u"
[10:45] <unfun> !mplayer
[10:45] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> subpar: or use a detached screen, I believe its screen -d commandname
[10:45] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:45] <Dodzey> BobSongs: can you see the private message dialogs i've started with you?
[10:46] <subpar> fyrestrtr: I'll try that
[10:46] <unfun> !codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yes: and I've been adding to it.
[10:46] <hussam> Will edgy be as 'extensively' supported as dapper currently is?
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: You can't see my text? :'(
[10:46] <rorRuben> Friends, I've problems with a NTFS partition with Windows XP, when i try to reboot the pc and select win xp the pc is restarted, I can't enter in win xp or mount the partition too
[10:46] <Dodzey> BobSongs: no....that's odd...
[10:46] <rorRuben> here is the output dor fdisk and fstab file => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19796
[10:46] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Wahhhh
[10:46] <scott_> rorRuben, whats your grub menu entry to reboot into windows?
[10:47] <Dodzey> BobSongs: maybe it's xchat-gnome, i  always thought it was crap
[10:47] <subpar> fyrestrtr: it's still not running
[10:47] <sam_> I need a windows distro to run one program, my primary os is linux , what windows might you suggest?
[10:47] <BobSongs> Dodzey: :-\ I don't know what's wrong. Which IRC client are you on?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> subpar: what did you try?
[10:47] <richard> does Ubuntu come with wireless router driver support
[10:47] <Dodzey> BobSongs: regular xchat
[10:47] <scott_> sam_,  windows distro? you can run some windows programs with wine
[10:47] <subpar> fyrestrtr: adding screen -d to the beginning of it
[10:47] <erik_> back again
[10:48] <ubuntu> vous parl franais
[10:48] <BobSongs> Dodzey: In the terminal?
[10:48] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr:  is there a config file, like menu.lst, that i can check to see if its going to start up when i switch the drives over?
[10:48] <sam_> windows version*
[10:48] <nicholaspaul> should menu.lst be identical on both?
[10:48] <richard> I have WUSB54G and WAG54G
[10:48] <erik_> how do i 'unpack' a rpm ?
[10:48] <rorRuben> scott: where i see these information of grub?
[10:48] <Dodzey> BobSongs: the gui one
[10:48] <ubuntu> i'm a pb with xmms,
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> subpar: try slapping a & at the end of it
[10:49] <BobSongs> I've installed a few IRC packages this morning. I could try another: I've got ... XChat...
[10:49] <ubuntu> it's disparate !!
[10:49] <ubuntu> what is the sequence touch to not hiden it ?
[10:49] <BobSongs> Let me get off this thing and try that one. brb
[10:49] <catoblepa> BobSongs: right choice!
[10:49] <npster> how do I get GCC, it isn't in synaptic ?
[10:49] <scott_> rorRuben, gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> npster: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:49] <SonicChao> npster: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:50] <subpar> fyrestrtr: nah, it still closes... all I would really need to do is keep it from closing the terminal
[10:50] <hchaudh1_> hey, anyone else seeing anti-aliasing problems when you move windows, esp wobbly windows, after the cgwd updates in the past couple of days
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> subpar: it doesn't matter if it closes the term or not.
[10:50] <SonicChao> fyrestrtr: >.> Beat me to it.
[10:50] <scott_> subpar, it closes the terminal as it has finished the command. be it via error or not
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> subpar: as long as the process it running, you don't need to worry about it.
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> hchaudh1_: #xgl
[10:50] <subpar> fyrestrtr: but when it closes the terminal, it terminates the process
[10:50] <hchaudh1_> what?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> hchaudh1_: take your question to #xgl
[10:51] <hchaudh1_> ok thx
[10:51] <subpar> fyrestrtr: the whole thing is, it's setting an alarm to play an m3u playlist in 8 hours and 30 minutes
[10:51] <scott_> set it in cron instead?
[10:51] <subpar> fyrestrtr: if worse comes to worst, I can just type it in everyday
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> subpar: use the cron
[10:51] <scott_> (i dont know how though)
[10:51] <subpar> scott_: but I don't go to sleep every day :)
[10:51] <dave> anyone know the default CUPS password?
[10:51] <subpar> at the same time
[10:51] <subpar> it's no biggy
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> dave: why?
[10:51] <subpar> I can just type it in if I need to
[10:51] <scott_> :)
[10:51] <rorRuben> scott: here is the output for menu.lst => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19829
[10:51] <dave> what do you mean why
[10:52] <dave> I want to add a printer ja
[10:52] <scott_> rorRuben, i will take a look
[10:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey,
[10:52] <subpar> it would just be so much easier if I could press an icon
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> subpar: when you use screen -d, it should work. Check ps -- if it shows the process.
[10:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: yeah...?
[10:52] <BobSongs> Dodzey, you there?
[10:52] <rorRuben> scot: thank's ;)
[10:52] <BobSongs> We've done it!!!
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> subpar: have you tried creating a desktop icon for it?
[10:52] <Dodzey> BobSongs: done what?
[10:53] <subpar> it would be "Create launcher" right?
[10:53] <scott_> rorRuben, is the ntfs partition the one winxp is installed in (as i see you have fat partitions too)
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> subpar: no
[10:53] <BobSongs> We've connected using a different client.
[10:53] <dave> has anyone installed a printer b4 and run into a username and password box in CUPS
[10:53] <nicholaspaul> fyrestrtr: o
[10:53] <scott_> rorRuben, also what error do you get when selecting winxp from the grub menu when trying to boot into it?
[10:53] <rorRuben> scott: yes
[10:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ohh...much better huh
[10:53] <subpar> would I create is a document then, or what?
[10:53] <nicholaspaul> ,fyrestrtr i'm still getting nothing but the word GRUB on the screen...
[10:53] <Dodzey> BobSongs: is pm working?
[10:53] <BobSongs> Nope.
[10:54] <rorRuben> scott: the pc going to rebbot
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Nope.
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dang!
[10:54] <roostishaw> is anyone in here running drupal on ubuntu server? how is it? is it good for a photo gallery mabey?
[10:54] <Dodzey> BobSongs: wierd, i was talking to someone yesterday using it, so it can't be hear
[10:54] <Dodzey> here*
[10:54] <scott_> rorRuben, so you dont get any error message about not finding it or anything?
[10:54] <BobSongs> Dodzey, do I have to have some kind of setting change?
[10:55] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i haven't done anything, all ive done is change the server for my freenode password
[10:55] <Hellavator> does anyone know what package I need to install for this?
[10:55] <Hellavator> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:55] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Hmm. Strange.
[10:56] <EpP> hey how do i get ubuntus kernel source?
[10:56] <Nickgarvey> EpP, sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[10:56] <rorRuben> scott: when i try to mount the ntfs partition, here is the error => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19831
[10:56] <Dodzey> BobSongs try '/msg Dodzey <message>'
[10:57] <BobSongs> Dodzey, kk
[10:57] <EpP> Nickgarvey, whats uname?
[10:57] <scott_> rorRuben, im afraid i dont speak (spanish is it?)
[10:57] <rorRuben> scott: yes, sorry
[10:57] <Nickgarvey> EpP, thats your kernel version, `uname -r` will put your kernel version into the command so you don't need to copy and paste
[10:57] <BobSongs> Dodzey, On the left I see 'Dodzey' under '#ubuntu'. /msg send a message there.
[10:57] <EpP> ok ok
[10:58] <Dodzey> BobSongs: I didn't get it, its messed up
[10:58] <EpP> Nickgarvey, it says Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-23-powerpc
[10:58] <BobSongs> Dodzey, :(
[10:59] <rorRuben> scott: here is in us => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19832
[10:59] <scott_> rorRuben, will take a look
[10:59] <Nickgarvey> EpP, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[11:00] <Nickgarvey> EpP, try that then
[11:00] <rorRuben> scott: thanks
[11:00] <docko> if i run a php script from shell using php5-cli i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()... if i run that script from browser, it works correctly. and scripts without mysql run in shell... can anyone help?
[11:00] <scott_> rorRuben, can you try and mount it, then straight after type in dmesg and pastebin what it says?
[11:00] <EpP> k done thz
[11:00] <EpP> Nickgarvey, thx done
[11:01] <Dodzey> brb
[11:02] <Anti-Tedd> Hi. I'm on ubuntu and dist-upgrading getting only about 10kb/s. I'm on my wireless laptop on a cable connection, it shouldn't be going this slow...can someone help me?
[11:02] <Anti-Tedd> Is there a port I need toopen?
[11:02] <Seveas> !reposdown > Anti-Tedd
[11:03] <rorRuben> scott: hre is the output => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19833
[11:03] <BobSongs> Dodzey, welcome back.
[11:03] <unfun> wich mplayer codecs can play wmv and hwrw do I find them?
[11:03] <unfun> !codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <Seveas> unfun, w32codecs -- seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas
[11:03] <Dodzey> BobSongs: thought reopening xchat might solve it...
[11:03] <Anti-Tedd> Seveas: So it isn't me?
[11:04] <Seveas> Anti-Tedd, probably not
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> phew.
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> 'cause i'm on a cable connection. I thoguht maybe a port had to be opened.
[11:04] <unfun> sevas could you link me to the exact page?
[11:04] <farous> i am interested in knowing who to contact regarding the local language support to ask him how come the arabic and hebrew support are both supported by the same channel  and documentation though they are totally diff languages ?
[11:04] <Anti-Tedd> Next-question...
[11:05] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Seems when I send a message to you I get >Dodzey< This is a test.
[11:05] <joseph> Hello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?
[11:05] <Anti-Tedd> What happens if I close terminal about 78% into dist-upgrade?
[11:05] <farous> and by the way the link is only for hebrew support no arabic support is there
[11:05] <npster> Can I use C++ for writing OSs ?
[11:05] <npster> like C ?
[11:05] <farous> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[11:05] <Seveas> npster, sure
[11:05] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, that's fine.  it will resume from where it left off when you next run it
[11:05] <unfun> How do I know if I'm using breezy or daper?
[11:05] <bimberi> !version > unfun
[11:05] <shiv> which application in linux will open .chm files
[11:05] <npster> u can do that with C++ ?
[11:05] <agliodbs> where can I get help setting up ubuntu on a server?
[11:05] <Anti-Tedd> bimberi, are you sure? Even if I shut the machine down?
[11:06] <unfun> !version
[11:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[11:06] <Hellavator> can anyone help me with this?   No package 'libxml-2.0' found
[11:06] <Hellavator> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:06] <Hellavator> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[11:06] <Nickgarvey> agliodbs, what do you need? we might be able to help you out
[11:06] <joseph> Hello. Whenever I try to access my CD Rom drive I get this error: Could not enter folder /media/cdrom0, can anyone help me?
[11:06] <DarkerAudit> I'm having trouble with GNOME accepting changes I make to the Applications font. I started with Kubuntu before I added GNOME. What's causing the conflict?
[11:06] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, yes, i've done it many times - the files being downloaded are cached, even the partially downloaded ones
[11:06] <agliodbs> Nickgarvey: I tried partitioning from the server CD yesterday
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> bimberi, thanks...i have to get a website done XD
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> thanks.
[11:06] <scott_> rorRuben, edit your fstab (after backing it up of course ;)) and change the windows (ntfs) parition line to: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[11:06] <Anti-Tedd> Later.
[11:06] <agliodbs> setting up the whole filesystem on a RAID-1
[11:06] <bimberi> Anti-Tedd, np
[11:06] <agliodbs> and now the machine won't boot
[11:06] <npster> Is motor good as a C++ complier ?
[11:07] <scott_> rorRuben, then try and mount it again
[11:07] <DarkerAudit> A straight install of Ubuntu on another machine that suffered the same issue no longer has the problem
[11:07] <Nickgarvey> agliodbs, eek.. I know nothing about RAID
[11:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hmmm....somethings up with IRC
[11:07] <agliodbs> yeah, I tried here yesteday too
[11:07] <EpP> Hey i have a 802.11b Airport, does kismet work with it?
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> bimberi: intersting I though stopping an upgrade would break it
[11:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey, I see your text coming thru loud and clear.
[11:07] <agliodbs> apparently nobody on this channel does
[11:07] <joseph> I tried searching for my problem, and I found nothing. :\
[11:07] <spiderworm> !vmware
[11:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:07] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Just send links and stuff to me: It's coming thru. You just can't see what I'm sending.
[11:07] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: stopping it during the downloading phase is ok
[11:07] <Dodzey> BobSongs: but you can't message back? thats odd
[11:08] <scott_> joseph, mount the cdrom
[11:08] <joseph> scott_ I tried
[11:08] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: during the installation phase would be a different matter
[11:08] <DarkerAudit> BobSongs: I see ya fine here :)
[11:08] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Maybe I need to re-install Ubuntu. *snicker*
[11:08] <joseph> scott_ Whenever I try to access it, it gives me that error.
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> bimberi: that figures :-) one to remember
[11:08] <scott_> joseph, sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[11:08] <bimberi> TheGateKeeper: :)
[11:08] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Dodzey and I are trying to set up a private chat. I can see all his text... but he cannot see mine. Let me try sending you a private message. Tell me if it works.
[11:09] <joseph> scott_ It's already mounted
[11:09] <agliodbs> as far as I can tell, the ubuntu RAID tool is fundamentally broken, or at least antique (i.e. you can't boot from RAID under ubuntu)
[11:09] <scott_> joseph, unmount and remount
[11:09] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, It's sent.
[11:09] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Link received loud and clear.
[11:09] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[11:10] <joseph> scott_ It says it's write-protected, mounting read only.
[11:10] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Nothing came thru?
[11:10] <wubrgamer> i'm trying to get my ati drivers working, but not from source or anything, just trying to USE the ati drivers that are in the restricted-modules package........
[11:10] <scott_> joseph, thats fine, it should do
[11:10] <joseph> scott_ Same error, also.
[11:10] <bimberi> BobSongs: you need to be identified to /msg on Freenode
[11:10] <farous> i am interested in knowing who to contact regarding the local language support to ask him how come the arabic and hebrew support are both supported by the same channel  and documentation though they are totally diff languages ? the link on  http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local for arabic support links to a hebrew support wiki. If help is required to translate the documentation to arabic i will be willing to do it. I need to know what to do or wh
[11:10] <rorRuben> scott: the same error again
[11:10] <Seveas> farous, search for locoteam on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:10] <nightw> how can i change the charset of filesystem?(i have a resier4 partition from my previous linux and it has wrong characters in some words)
[11:10] <BobSongs> bimberi, Okie dokie. Anything in particular I need to do to achieve this?
[11:11] <DarkerAudit> BobSongs: luckily I'm DarkAudit on another machine... but neither got the PM
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> Seveas: what is the difference between your repos and the PLF ones, for instance is your w32codecs more up to date?
[11:11] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ill help you with registering
[11:11] <BobSongs> DarkAudit, Many thanks.
[11:11] <scott_> rorRuben, from the looks of your dmesg, the ntfs partition looks damaged/needing some sort of windows repair, it bails out after trying to mount and says it doesnt try to recover, now im not sure how to make it try and recover etc, sorry, have you searched/posted on the forums?
[11:11] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Many thanks. Noobie here. ;-)
[11:11] <bimberi> BobSongs: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:11] <Dodzey> !register > BobSongs
[11:11] <joseph> scott_ Could it be the permissions?
[11:12] <DarkerAudit> did that last big update fix the WPA password issue? I only had to make a keyring password instead of my entire WPA string afterward
[11:12] <scott_> joseph, try sudo mount /dev/cdrom
[11:12] <farous> Seveas: there is no local team for any arabic country. I would like your help to correct the http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local. As the link do not direct to an arabic wiki it should just say hebrew support
[11:12] <joseph> scott_ It's already mounted.
[11:13] <BobSongs> Dodzey, Reading up on it now. brb
[11:13] <scott_> can you browse to /dev/cdrom?
[11:13] <farous> Seveas: and i will search how i can contibute on the localteams thanx for the link
[11:13] <Seveas> farous, I know there is a Saudi Arabian team
[11:13] <unfun> How do I get w32codecs???
[11:13] <Seveas> !w32codecs > unfun check your pm
[11:14] <dapet> Anyone have experiense with installing, netgear WG111v2?
[11:14] <joseph> scott_ Sorry, wasn't paying attention.
[11:14] <scott_> !codecs
[11:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:14] <farous> Seveas: strange it is not on the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[11:14] <rorRuben> scott: then i try reinstall the winxp, but how i can reinstall grub after?
[11:14] <unfun> yeah but I new to ubuntu I just want to know where the exact file is
[11:14] <joseph> scott_ It's asking me what to open it with.
[11:15] <Seveas> farous, ompaul recently helped them with their IRC channel so there is a team ;)
[11:15] <bimberi> Seveas: ooh, we can write extra stuff after the nick in that syntax? nice
[11:15] <farous> Seveas: perhaps the list need to be updated
[11:15] <Seveas> farous, they should do so themselves
[11:15] <catchme> unfun perhaps you'll try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[11:16] <scott_> rorRuben, if you reinstall xp you will haver to make sure not to overwrite your linux partitions etc, once windows is installed then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:16] <farous> Seveas: should i wait for ompaul to know the irc channel name so I contact them
[11:16] <Seveas> farous, #ubuntu-sa (all locoteam channels are required to use #ubuntu-CC
[11:16] <scott_> rorRuben, but i would advise instead of reinstalling windows
[11:16] <farous> Seveas: thanx a lot for your help
[11:17] <farous> much appreciated
[11:17] <scott_> rorRuben, boot up windows cd, goto recovery console, type in fixmbr, which will then auto boot windows, then follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:17] <agliodbs> nobody here knows anything about setting up ubuntu on RAID-1?
[11:17] <EpP> what does Airport 802.11b use? Madwifi?
[11:17] <Seveas> EpP, depends on whether it's airport or airport extreme
[11:18] <scott_> joseph, im not sure what you problem is then, since ubuntu should auto mountm your cdroms etc when you put a cd in
[11:18] <djk_> is there a tool to detect errors on a harddrive?
[11:18] <Seveas> !smart
[11:18] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[11:18] <Seveas> hmm
[11:18] <joseph> scott_ I'm using Kubuntu, but it does it too, I believe.
[11:18] <Seveas> djk_, apt-get install smartmontools
[11:18] <Seveas> !search smart
[11:18] <ubotu> Found: smartphone, boot, smart
[11:18] <joseph> scott_ I usually do it manually, though.
[11:18] <djk_> thanks
[11:18] <EpP> Seveas, its airport 802.11b so its airport original
[11:19] <scott_> joseph, have you tried restarting the session (logging out then in) or restarting your pc, kde used to freak out on me like that until i restarted then would be fine again for a bit
[11:19] <rorRuben> scott: thanks man i try it
[11:19] <scott_> rorRuben, no problem, hope everything works out for you and sorry i couldnt be any more helpful
[11:19] <catchme> how can I change the own of an file if sudo chown doesn't work?
[11:20] <joseph> scott_ Yes, I just restarted.
[11:20] <unfun> sevas thanks for your help
[11:20] <joseph> :(
[11:20] <scott_> joseph, then sorry but i dont know, i will search ubuntu forums quickly for you though
[11:20] <bimberi> catchme: any error?
[11:20] <linuxd00d> urgh WYSIWYG blows
[11:20] <joseph> scott_ I already tried. :(
[11:20] <avallach> I have a nvidia geforce4 mx 420 (nv17s) in my Dapper box - everything worked great with the nvidia driver for a long time but a couple weeks ago it started locking up (usually when a screensaver came on), i reverted to the nv driver & no lockups...anybody know why nvidia stopped working?
[11:20] <catchme> yes error read only file
[11:21] <dapet> I am new to IRC (Xchat) how do I change to the australian server?
[11:21] <bimberi> catchme: what does 'lsattr <file>' output?
[11:22] <rio_> dapet, irc.freenode.net should connect you to your local server
[11:22] <EpP> Seveas, its airport 802.11b so its airport original
[11:22] <rio_> dapet, otherwise, click trhe Xhcat menu, server list, choose freenode, edit, and add the austrailian server
[11:22] <Seveas> EpP, check lspci -- i though it was prism but am not sure
[11:22] <Hellavator> does anyone know why the repos are so slow today?
[11:23] <dapet> rio: I don't need the local server, but i have to meet a person in the australian server, how do I do that?
[11:23] <Hellavator> im getting 10~20kb/s
[11:23] <dapet> rio: thx :D
[11:23] <plhardy> starscream[2] : Well kubuntu install on a USB hdd doesn't work there are at least three successive bugs, and that with a boot on USB DISK working from bios
[11:24] <docko> if i run a php script from shell using php5-cli i get this Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()... if i run that script from browser, it works correctly. and scripts without mysql run in shell... can anyone help?
[11:24] <dapet> Anyone knows what the australian server is named?
[11:24] <Seveas> dapet, au.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <catchme> bimberi it outputs "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on MP3/Z"
[11:24] <dapet> <Seveas:
[11:25] <dapet> Seveas: How do I connect then?
[11:25] <EpP> how do i make sshd run?
[11:25] <catchme> bimberi the file is writen on en external hdd
[11:25] <Seveas> epinephrine, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:25] <epinephrine> :P
[11:25] <bimberi> catchme: what type of filesystem?
[11:26] <catchme> bimberi ntfs
[11:26] <linuxd00d> !ntfs
[11:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:26] <catchme> bimberi but I've manage to mount it in Suse
[11:26] <bimberi> catchme: ah, lsattr won't work then and ntfs support is read only
[11:26] <nomin> isn't google earth supposed to be in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:26] <Seveas> nomin, no
[11:26] <dapet> How do I connect to the australian IRC server?
[11:27] <ompaul> farous evening
[11:27] <nicholaspaul> I'm trying to install GRUB from a Warty Live CD onto a Dapper drive. Sudo grub-install /dev/hda gives me 'Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.' how can i install grub?
[11:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell catchme about fuse
[11:27] <nomin> Seveas: do you know if google earth has been made for ubuntu?
[11:27] <nomin> !google
[11:27] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[11:27] <Seveas> nomin, the installer from earth.google.com works fine
[11:27] <nomin> !google earth
[11:27] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[11:27] <inono> How do I get vim 7 for Ubuntu ?
[11:27] <ompaul> Seveas, talk about bad timing
[11:27] <catchme> bimberi I've mot sure if the file is read only becaus if thougt having change it
[11:27] <linuxd00d> nomin: you could just use wine or use google maps
[11:27] <Seveas> inono, grab it from my repos /msg ubotu seveas
[11:27] <nomin> cool
[11:27] <ompaul> I have been back a few minutes
[11:28] <nicholaspaul> hey Seveas are you able to help me install grub? tis driving me nuts :)
[11:28] <nomin> linuxd00d: wine is too hard for me to use.  google earth is a lot cooler than google maps.
[11:28] <joseph> scott_ I will BRB, going to try restarting again. If I don't come back, it works.
[11:28] <inono> Seveas, thx
[11:28] <EpP> Seveas, For kismet the driver is prism2_openbsd. Would this be correct?
[11:28] <jared> Hey, I installed breezy and want to upgrade to dapper. Do i have to do the update that were requested right after i started my new installtiont he first time?
[11:28] <bimberi> catchme: type 'mount' and see if that filesystem has "ro" or "rw" next to it
[11:29] <nicholaspaul> jared: no you can go straight to Dapper.
[11:29] <EpP> Seveas, For kismet the driver is prism2_openbsd. Would this be correct?
[11:29] <nicholaspaul> Seveas.. do you have a minute?
[11:29] <bimberi> dapet: try au.freenode net (guessing though)
[11:29] <djk_> my /home isn't writeable anymore after a hdd-crash, how do i fix that?
[11:29] <Dodzey> is there anyway i can run blender on one screen of my xinerama setup? ohh, and it's slow when compiz is running but nonXgl doesn't seem to hve any affect
[11:29] <dapet> bimberi: I am a noob, how do i do that?
[11:30] <catchme> bimbery mount outputed "/dev/sdb1 on /media/External Disk-1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync)"
[11:30] <starscream[2] > hi there folks, if hd0,1 is hda2 then is hda 1 hd0,0?
[11:30] <bimberi> dapet: configure your irc client to point to au.freenode.net for the Freenode network.
[11:30] <Thanatos_> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, any ideas (or links)?
[11:31] <inono> Seveas, no amd64 packages ?
[11:31] <dapet> bimberi: I have xchat
[11:31] <babysnakes> hi, if I set 'chmod u+s somedir' doesn't it mean that all files under 'somedir' will be owned by the user (no matter who created them)?
[11:31] <bimberi> dapet: btw i'm an aussie, and i don't bother doing it :)
[11:31] <Seveas> EpP, I don't think so... that appears to be for openbsd, not linux
[11:31] <hcr> starscream[2] , yes
[11:31] <Seveas> prism2 or prism54 should do it iirc
[11:31] <Seveas> starscream[2] , correct
[11:31] <starscream[2] > hcr> many thanks :)
[11:31] <Seveas> inono, breezy or dapper?
[11:31] <adrian> HOLA
[11:31] <Seveas> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:31] <inono> Seveas, dapper
[11:31] <EpP> Seveas, so no support for my airport card in kismet?
[11:31] <dapet> bimberi: he he... Okay... But I have to meet someone in there :(
[11:31] <Seveas> inono, I'll build them, hang on
[11:32] <inono> Seveas, ok thanks :)
[11:32] <inono> Seveas, do I need to use your personal mirror then?
[11:32] <Seveas> inono, yes
[11:32] <inono> ok
[11:32] <adrian> HI
[11:32] <Seveas> i'll poke you when they're there
[11:33] <inono> ok
[11:33] <jared> would the two letter country code for the us be US?
[11:33] <Seveas> jared, correct
[11:33] <Eagle3> yep
[11:33] <Hellavator> yes it would
[11:33] <dapet> anyone KNOWS how to connect to the austrailian IRC server, through Xchat, I am a noob so beware ;)
[11:33] <jared> thankyou
[11:33] <bimberi> dapet: Freenode is all one network, any australian server is part of it.  that 'someone' should be here.
[11:34] <jared> ./server ircservername bimberi i believe
[11:34] <jared> just like any other
[11:34] <bimberi> dapet: do you know their nick?  try typing: /whois nick
[11:34] <dapet> bimberi: Ohhh thx :D you are my Hero :D
[11:34] <bimberi> dapet: lol, no problem :)
[11:34] <adrian> Someone who wants to chat here?
[11:34] <dapet> About what?
[11:34] <sameer> hi guys
[11:34] <Seveas> inono, hmm, my amd64 buildd id dead it seems
[11:35] <bimberi> adrian: chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <Seveas> !seen imbrandon
[11:35] <ubotu> imbrandon is on IRC right now!
[11:35] <inono> Seveas, ahhhhhh :O
[11:35] <sameer> i have problem with my external usb hdd
[11:35] <sameer> not even showing up with lsusb :(
[11:36] <dapet> matheiu: Are you the one I wrote to about the netgear wireless?
[11:36] <bimberi> sameer: unplug/replug make any difference?
[11:36] <sameer> nop
[11:36] <Seveas> inono, it's not hard to build it yourself
[11:36] <bimberi> sameer: :(
[11:36] <Seveas> inono, add a deb-src line for my repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <Seveas> and do this:
[11:36] <sameer> bimberi: any idea
[11:36] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:37] <Seveas> sudo apt-get build-dep vim
[11:37] <Seveas> apt-cache -b source vim
[11:37] <bimberi> sameer: no sorry (apart from bad or unrecognised hardware) :|
[11:37] <nicholaspaul> Ok, who knows how to mount an HD from a live CD?
[11:38] <sameer> where i can find any msg ?
[11:38] <sameer> nicholaspaul: will be the same :D
[11:38] <nicholaspaul> sameer: same as what?
[11:38] <inono> Seveas, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jQT82m62.html
[11:39] <EpP> How can i get my airport original to work in kismet?
[11:39] <sameer> mount /dev/hda_nuimber /mountpoint
[11:39] <djk_> how do i get a list of who has read/write access to which directory?
[11:39] <Seveas> inono, that's the wrong mirror, has only freenx
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> sameer: it keeps asking for a fs type
[11:39] <sameer> nicholaspaul: is it ntfs ??
[11:39] <Seveas> inono, and you should do sudo apt-get update after adding a correct mirror
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> sameer: i think its ext, but it doesnt like that.
[11:40] <richy> i have some problem with nvidia driver ( graphic card)
[11:40] <inono> Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/Release  Unable to find expected entry  list_of_sections/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[11:40] <richy> what is the path of linux kernel header???
[11:41] <richy> i have just intall the package but the software don't find the path
[11:41] <Seveas> inono, read the BIG BOLD NOTICE on the site... and you added a binary packages entry, not a sources entry...
[11:41] <inono> Seveas, sorry, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fNSDqG51.html
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/tmp = wonf fs type bad option, bad superblock or too many mounted file systems.
[11:41] <inono> oh ok
[11:41] <inono> I am new to apt-get, would that be like universe multiverse ?
[11:41] <sameer> see how many mounts do u have
[11:42] <sameer> try fdisk -l /dev/hda_numb
[11:42] <nicholaspaul> oh right. sameer. It says its mounted on /mnt/hda1 - tanks!
[11:42] <inono> Seveas, which section would vim7 be in? extras? custom ?
[11:42] <wheels3572> Is Xubuntu Gnome?
[11:42] <jared> no its xcfe wheels3572
[11:42] <eleazar123> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and when i rebooted to load ubuntu grub gave error 17 (even before grub finished loading), so i rebooted to the livecd and reinstalled grub, now i get grub error 22, it says 'no such partition' even though i know it's the right one! anyone have any ideas? :(
[11:42] <Seveas> inono, backports and all
[11:43] <bimberi> wheels3572: xfce
[11:43] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what hard drive is ubuntu installed on?  are you dual booting?
[11:43] <wheels3572> jared, ok ty.  So I can remove tsclient then since it's for gnome and not xfce
[11:43] <micahcowan> Seveas, do you mind helping me wrt a problem I'm having with displaying  UTF-8 in vim?
[11:44] <Thanatos_> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now, when I boot up, it runs gdm and automatically logs me in, but instead of a desktop, it is just a terminal window, any ideas on how I can get it working again?
[11:44] <nomin> what do I need to do to install google earth.  I just downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> sameer: i'm just trying to install grub on this thing.
[11:44] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i am dual-booting with ubuntu and xp sp2, windows and ubuntu are installed on hd3, linux root is sdc4, and windows root is sdc1
[11:44] <wheels3572> what I wanna do is setup vnc on my systems to be able to connect to them
[11:44] <sameer> ah
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  should grub be in /boot or / ?
[11:45] <sameer> in /boot
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> k sameerthx
[11:45] <sameer> np
[11:45] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: by 'installed on hd3', what do you mean if the root is on a different hd?
[11:46] <aTypical> nomin, make sure the .bin file is executable and then ./googleearth.bin (or whatever the name is).
[11:46] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: also...what do you mean by hd3...you mean hda3 ?
[11:46] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, sdc is hd3, it's just partitioned up, hd3 = 3rd harddrive according to linux
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> sameer:  it keeps saying '/dev/hda1 not found or not a block device'. After i type 'grub-install --root-direcotry=/boot /dev/hda1
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> its mounted as /mnt/hda1
[11:47] <nomin> aTypical: thanks.  It's just like installing realplayer.
[11:47] <fsniper> hello. any body having trouble with gnome-terminal tabs?
[11:47] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what is hd0 ?
[11:48] <nomin> sweet!  I'm running google earth now.
[11:48] <fsniper> any tabs except the main terminal tab closes on returning a command for me
[11:48] <linuxd00d> nomin: are you using wine?
[11:48] <fsniper> any body has any information?
[11:49] <nomin> linuxd00d: no.  the linux installer is good enough.  just run "chmod a+x /path/to/GoogleEarthLinux.bin"
[11:49] <nomin> than run the installer
[11:49] <linuxd00d> sweet
[11:49] <linuxd00d> have fun
[11:49] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, hd0 (i think) is a 320gb sata drive, i ran fdisk -l and it's the first drive to be listed
[11:49] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: what kind of machine are you on/
[11:49] <sparkleytone> ?
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> HI all, I just installed Ubuntu on father in laws computer.  Didnt realize he didnt have a modem or boradband.  I grabbed a hardware external modem and put it on com1 serial port.  How do I get it recognized and set it up?
[11:50] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: what is it made by?
[11:50] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i built it
[11:51] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: run grub-install /dev/sdc ... then reboot and make sure that the drive that is your sdc is chosen as the boot drive
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> airlink.  IT workes fine in Mepis and other distros if it is installed before the os..
[11:51] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, ok, thanks :) do i need to mount sdc before i run the command?
[11:52] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: ohhhhh...wait
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Full hardware 56k modem...
[11:52] <nicholaspaul> Anyone have experience using 'grub' at the root terminal?
[11:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: what is the problem
[11:52] <hou5ton> last month I put the latest Ubuntu on my laptop, and it refused to accept the proper screen resolution ... ATI 9700 .... SuSE 10.1 does fine with it ... has Ubuntu worked on this??
[11:53] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: have you tried autodecting it?
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow:  when i type root (hda,3) it says 'selected disk does not exist'. I've tried every permutation of hda, hda1, etc...
[11:53] <inono> Seveas, ok i installed build-dep vim
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> i'm trying to install grub
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: I cna reinstall Ub and be fine.  Just thought if it was easy I would fix the current install
[11:53] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: chicken/egg syndrome sorry...you need to mount sdc...then you need to 'mount -t bind /proc /path/to/sdcmount'...then you need to 'chroot /path/to/sdcmount /bin/bash'...then do a grub-install /dev/sdc and reboot
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: is this a dual boot system?
[11:53] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, oh wow lol, ok, i'll do that, thanks!
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> no, its a new drive that i copied the old system to. I'm upgrading to a bigger HD
[11:53] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you need hd0,3
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: How do I get it to autodetect it?
[11:54] <nicholaspaul> hdZERO, sparkleytone ?
[11:54] <sparkleytone> yes nicholaspaul
[11:54] <sparkleytone> but really...
[11:54] <linuxd00d> use the network settings in administration
[11:54] <Rambo3> and come back here when you get grub error 17 for installing on that partition
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: Did you install on the same partition as before?
[11:54] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: do a 'cat /boot/grub/device.map' and make sure that /dev/hda is seen as hd0
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> same swap drive as before
[11:54] <EpP> How can i get my airport original to work in kismet?
[11:55] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: sparkleytone i just cp'd the old system to the new drive and have been told i jsut have to install GRUB.
[11:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholaspaul: How did you make the copy..?
[11:55] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: as long as you did cp -af or something similar, yeah should work
[11:55] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: or dd ;)
[11:56] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: yea i did, cp -afx / /new_drive
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: How do I get it to Ub to try and autodetect the new modem?
[11:56] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i did 'sudo mount -t bind /proc /tmp/test' and it says 'unknown filesystem type bing'
[11:56] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: so yea, hda is hd0
[11:56] <linuxd00d> ermm
[11:56] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: you could also do a 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/olddrive of=/dev/newdrive'
[11:57] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: that will copy the boot sector...then you just have to make sure the new drive is in the same 'place' as the old drive used to be and it should boot
[11:57] <linuxd00d> jack_sparrow: come to #linuxd00d
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxd00d: Im not near that system now, so just a couple ideas to write down and try later would help, or just reinstall?
[11:57] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, it says 'unknown filesystem type 'bind'' sorry i mistyped it the first time
[11:57] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: whoa. Simple is good :) .... so now, root (hd0,3) gives me "Error21: selected disk does not exist"
[11:57] <linuxd00d> oh ok
[11:57] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: omg i'm sorry...losing my mind.  -o not -t
[11:58] <eleazar123> sparkleytone lol no prob!
[11:58] <jon_> when it says install from the source tree, what is the source tree?
[11:58] <EpP> how do i check freespace/
[11:58] <nicholaspaul> EpP:  type df
[11:58] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: just use the old grub configuration file
[11:58] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: revert to the way it was when it was copied
[11:58] <EpP> nicholaspaul, thx
[11:59] <sparkleytone> EpP: df -h is even better :)
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> EpP: np :)
[11:59] <EpP> sparkleytone, thx for that too
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> What does DF stand for?
[11:59] <linuxd00d> yeah, goto system-admin-network-modem now enable the connection then click on the modem tab and then click on Auto detect
[11:59] <eleazar123> sparkleytone, i ran chroot /path/to/sdcmount /bin/bash, it gave back 'chroot: cannot run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory'
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> sparkleytone: by copying /boot over? i think i tried that...
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> Jack_Sparrow: its a command to check disk space. Dunno what it stands for tho...
[11:59] <sparkleytone> nicholaspaul: ya, but you didn't copy the bootsector before ;)
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks, just thought I'd ask
[12:00] <sparkleytone> eleazar123: by /path/to/sdcmount, i mean wherever ubuntu put it...if you just did mount /dev/sdc3#, then its probably in /media/sdc#...