[00:09] <Trigger> hey guys
[00:10] <Trigger> we are trying to boot kubuntu from a live cd and getting no gui
[00:10] <Trigger> well we had a brief but of gui
[00:10] <Trigger> when we were selecting what we wanted to do
[00:10] <Trigger> install and run
[00:10] <Trigger> run in safe gfx mode
[00:10] <Trigger> ect ect
[00:10] <Trigger> any idea how to handle that 0.o
[00:11] <Jack-it> hi
[00:11] <Trigger> ello
[00:11] <Jack-it> someone succesfully installed kde4 on hardy from official repository?
[00:11] <Jack-it> i tryed but seem that there is a dependencyp roblem
[00:12] <Jack-it> libgif4: conflict with libungif4g
[00:14] <Trigger> anyone alive 0.o
[00:15] <Jack-it> i think all are sleeping :-)
[00:15] <sourcemaker> Trigger: what's the error message?
[00:16] <Trigger> haven't gottenone yet
[00:16] <Trigger> we have just been brought to the console
[00:17] <sourcemaker> Trigger: The kernel is loading?
[00:17] <Trigger> kernal?
[00:17] <Trigger> yeah it loaded
[00:17] <Trigger> what is the gui restart command?
[00:19] <tekteen> Trigger: what do u mean "gui command"
[00:19] <Trigger> isn't there a command to retart the gui?
[00:19] <Trigger> or attempt to reload it..
[00:19] <tekteen> Trigger: ctr+alt+backspace
[00:19] <Trigger> kde restart or something along those lines?
[00:20] <Trigger> natta
[00:20] <tekteen> Trigger: or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:21] <Trigger> when we entered kdm restart it said no such file or directory
[00:21] <Trigger> then brought us to a blank screen with only a flashing underscore
[00:21] <Trigger> and then the screen went black altogether 0.o
[00:22] <Jack-it> trigger press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace for refresh kde
[00:22] <Trigger> nothing :(
[00:22] <Jack-it> uhm
[00:22] <Jack-it> what's you problem?
[00:22] <Trigger> we aren't getting any gui.
[00:23] <Jack-it> you see only the console?
[00:23] <Trigger> right
[00:23] <tekteen> Trigger: in other words X broke
[00:23] <Trigger> we got the option to choose what mode we wanted
[00:23] <Trigger> but, then it brought us to the console
[00:23] <Trigger> i suppose so
[00:23] <tekteen> Trigger: did it ever work?
[00:23] <Trigger> no
[00:24] <Trigger> new system
[00:24] <Trigger> we jsut installed the cd drive today
[00:24] <Trigger> before that all it had was bios
[00:24] <tekteen> Trigger: it worked on the livecd?
[00:24] <Jack-it> if you type startx ?
[00:24] <Trigger> hold on we got an option to check the cd
[00:24] <Trigger> so we are checking it for errors
[00:24] <t3hwiz0rd> does anyone know how to check where in /dev a usb modem phone is?
[00:25] <Trigger> quad core 8800 and it can't boot an os XD lawl
[00:26] <padey> :O quad core 8800? :S wtf?
[00:26] <tekteen> Trigger: install the system using safe graphics mode on the live cd.
[00:26] <Trigger> k
[00:26] <tekteen> !ohmy| padey
[00:26] <ubotu> padey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:26] <Trigger> padey it is intel quad core 2.4 ghz
[00:26] <Trigger> and it has an 8800 XD
[00:26] <tekteen> Trigger: nice
[00:26] <Trigger> its not sli'd 4 ways although that would be epic XD
[00:26] <padey> isn't it a 6600? :P
[00:26] <weedar_> Trigger: Could be motherboard-issue or video-related, can we get the specs? :)
[00:26] <Trigger> yes my brother got it
[00:26] <Trigger> custom built
[00:27] <Trigger> nforce 680i mobo
[00:27] <tekteen> Trigger: install in safe graphics mode
[00:27] <Trigger> we will after the integrity of the cd is done checking XD
[00:27] <Trigger> well he custom built it
[00:27] <Trigger> and now we are attempting to install an os
[00:27] <Trigger> and we aren't fans of whinedows.
[00:27] <Trigger> now we are trying safe graphics mode
[00:28] <Trigger> and its installing in safe gfx mode XD
[00:28] <padey> there is no such thing as quade core 8800 :/
[00:28] <Trigger> i just explained taht
[00:28] <padey> quad*
[00:28] <Trigger> i said it was quad intel 2.4 ghz
[00:28] <Trigger> and single 88000
[00:28] <Trigger> although sli 4 ways with 8800 would be epic XD
[00:29] <padey> oh, got it now :P
[00:29] <padey> missunderstood
[00:29] <Trigger> tekteen no i'm not
[00:29] <tekteen> ok
[00:29] <Trigger> and it won't let me message you back in XD
[00:29] <tekteen> I know someone alot like u
[00:29] <Trigger> lol ignorant and attempting things way over his level of comprehension?
[00:30] <Trigger> yay gui! XD
[00:30] <Trigger> now i should probably ditch whinedows on my laptop >.<
[00:31] <tekteen> Trigger: I have a dual boot
[00:31] <Trigger> lol i dunno why i dislike windows so much these days but, the more time goes on the more i dislike it
[00:31] <Trigger> any particular reason for dual booting?
[00:31] <tekteen> Trigger: I have not used windows since I bought my laptop
[00:32] <tekteen> Trigger:1 month
[00:32] <Trigger> out of curiosity are there any linux districts that offer more battery life then windows?
[00:32] <tekteen> Trigger: I still have it though
[00:32] <the-erm> ... if you're not a gamer, and you're comfortable with linux, then having windows on a machine is a waste of time.
[00:33] <Trigger> lol unfortunately i'm a gamer
[00:33] <Trigger> although i don't know for how much longer on my laptop XD
[00:33] <Trigger> its good but, laptops go out of date for gaming fairly fast
[00:33] <padey> what kind of games do you play?
[00:34] <Trigger> right now oblivion, fear, guild wars
[00:34] <padey> most 3d shooters are playable on linux
[00:34] <tekteen> Need to go. Dad is showing me how to install rhel on a server
[00:34] <padey> those are some heavy games for a laptop :O
[00:34] <Trigger> hm doesn't wine offer playing windows games without a lose of performance?
[00:34] <Trigger> : D
[00:34] <Trigger> i got this laptop a year ago
[00:34] <Trigger> but, i got it pretty good
[00:35] <Trigger> although now you can get the same thing for 1k less >><
[00:35] <Trigger> dual core 2.16 ghz proccessors 2 gig ram and mobile 1600 ati card
[00:35] <Trigger> 100 gig hard drive
[00:35] <padey> that's actually pretty good
[00:35] <Trigger> on a 15 inch moniter XD
[00:36] <Trigger> yeah i know its still up to date
[00:36] <Trigger> but, now you can get the same rig for 1500 or so
[00:36] <Trigger> instead of the 2600 i paid XD
[00:36] <padey> I wouldn't really rely on wine for my games
[00:36] <Trigger> but, i got it for college >.<
[00:36] <the-erm> Coding is my game.
[00:36] <Trigger> but, i now have a huge inferiority complex >.<
[00:37] <the-erm> Ok .. solitare.
[00:37] <Trigger> despite my laptop being pretty good
[00:37] <Trigger> my bro has 2.4 ghz quad core
[00:37] <Trigger> 8800 oced out the box gfx card
[00:37] <Trigger> which is something i find stupid
[00:37] <Trigger> but, it was the cheapest one XD
[00:37] <the-erm> I wouldn't mind owing a laptop
[00:37] <Trigger> I just fail to see how something bought from the factory can be bought 'pre over clocked'
[00:38] <Trigger> since the factory determines the clock speed to begin with XD
[00:38] <the-erm> Even a cheapo $500 laptop with wi-fi would be nice.
[00:38] <jhutchins> Trigger Should be pretty obvious.
[00:38] <Trigger> lol yeah
[00:38] <Trigger> i suppose
[00:38] <jhutchins> Trigger: The factory that makes the chips is not the factory that makes teh computer.
[00:38] <Trigger> lol my brother bought the gfx card seperate though
[00:39] <Trigger> and when he bought it he bought it "over clocked"
[00:39] <jhutchins> Trigger: You're not buying Intell laptops, and even if you were they wouldn't be the same.
[00:39] <Trigger> wait
[00:39] <jhutchins> Yes, I saw that.
[00:39] <shadowhywind> hay all i just did a fresh install of kubuntu and tried to install firefox, but all that is showing up is 1.5pre is there anyway to update that?
[00:39] <Trigger> we are talking about an 8800 desktop
[00:40] <jhutchins> A few companies do that, offer an overclocked chip.  Some even sell the overclocked chip as actually being a faster chip.
[00:40] <padey> yupp, try checking all of the repo boxes
[00:40] <Trigger> well i could understand them saying "selling faster chip"
[00:40] <Trigger> but, to me it just seems a bit illogical to say its "over clocked"
[00:40] <jhutchins> Trigger: How about if we go back on-topic, or to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[00:40] <Trigger> oh sorry >.<
[00:41] <Trigger> right now i'm just waiting on kubuntu to finish installing
[00:41] <Trigger> i'll be quiet till i have another problem or need more assistence
[00:44] <DarkTan_> how might i apt-get  wireless
[00:44] <DarkTan_> -tools?
[00:48] <stdin> DarkTan_: what do you mean?
[00:50] <vv> hi
[00:50] <miles_> has anyone successfuly installed Gutsy on an Intel mobo with p35 chipset?
[00:51] <DarkTan_> i going through the direction on setting up the wireless, i think i have it figured out
[00:59] <andreskru> hello
[00:59] <Dr_willis> hi
[01:00] <andreskru> why the there is no notification (blink) in taskbar when i rceive a new mensage in emensene?
[01:01]  * Dr_willis has no idea what emensene is.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:01] <Dr_willis> !info emensene
[01:01] <ubotu> Package emensene does not exist in gutsy
[01:02] <andreskru> nou..
[01:02] <andreskru> its a msn client
[01:02] <sourcemaker> !kopete
[01:02] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[01:03] <andreskru> when i turn on compiz the nofications dont blink
[01:03] <padey> kopete won't connect to msn for me :(
[01:03] <sourcemaker> #kopete
[01:03] <padey> does anyone know how to fix kopete msn problem?
[01:04] <ardchoille> padey: It's a known bug, need to update:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <DarkTan_> argg....still can't get the wireless card to work
[01:04] <padey> already updated, still didn't help
[01:04] <sourcemaker> padey: which version are you using?
[01:05] <DarkTan_> where can i get the wireless toold package found in this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[01:05] <padey> 0.12.7
[01:05] <sourcemaker> padey: that's the last stable version...
[01:05] <sourcemaker> padey: ask the dev team on #kopete
[01:06] <ardchoille> padey: Weird, I'm using that version and an update fixed it
[01:06] <sourcemaker> padey: Maybe you have to reconfigure you MSN account after update...?
[01:07] <DarkTan_> !wireless_tools
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless_tools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <DarkTan_> bah
[01:08] <Dr_willis> humbug!
[01:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:08] <padey> I'll try reconfiguring
[01:09] <padey> nope, still doesn't work
[01:10] <sourcemaker> !info wireless_tools
[01:10] <ubotu> Package wireless_tools does not exist in gutsy
[01:10] <ardchoille> padey: Does it crash?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[01:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:10] <ardchoille> !info wireless-tools | sourcemaker
[01:10] <ubotu> sourcemaker: wireless-tools: Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions. In component main, is important. Version 29~pre20-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 109 kB, installed size 340 kB
[01:11] <DarkTan_> arrg still
[01:11] <Pieman> arrg still DESU DESU 4CHAN.ORG
[01:11] <BluesKaj> !shout | Pieman
[01:11] <ubotu> Pieman: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:12] <dirty_harry> hi
[01:12] <sourcemaker> hi
[01:13] <sourcemaker> !!
[01:13] <sourcemaker> !ubotu
[01:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:13] <padey> ardchoille yupp it does
[01:24] <sourcemaker> Is this the right command to build a depian package for custom kernels: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=386 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image?
[01:25] <tekteen> sourcemaker: isn't it dpkg-build?
[01:25] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile will help
[01:25] <biovore> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[01:26] <biovore> make-kpkg clean
[01:26] <biovore>  fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[01:27] <sourcemaker> biovore: yes... I have just read the documentation
[01:29] <sourcemaker> how can I read the UUID of my harddisk?
[01:31] <crimsun> vol_id -u
[01:34] <sourcemaker> crimsun: wow... thanks
[01:51] <sourcemaker> crimsun: it's compiling
[01:52] <gman> My wireless card doesn't have interface when it is even enabled.
[01:53] <gman> Please help me.
[01:55] <ardchoille> !help  | gman
[01:55] <ubotu> gman: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.  Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:56] <sourcemaker> Should the kernel timer frequency not 1000HZ for a desktop system? Why is it not default in the kubuntu kernel?
[01:56] <gman> Yes, I have.
[01:56] <haygus> hi
[01:56] <ardchoille> hi haygus
[01:56] <haygus> i have some problems
[01:57] <haygus> im french if i make some mistakes sry
[01:57] <ardchoille> haygus: No problem. What do you need help with?
[01:57] <gman> ubotu: yes, I have.
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes, i have. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <haygus> http://haygus.free.fr/K/capture1.png
[01:57] <haygus> on the right bottom
[01:57] <haygus> we can see 2 icons but they are align
[01:58] <haygus> before they are 2 per colluns
[01:58] <haygus> ok i find it
[01:58] <haygus> sry
[01:58] <notv> can i get some help with accessing networks on samba?
[01:58] <keenan_the_duck> hello
[01:59] <ardchoille> haygus: Fixed?
[01:59] <sourcemaker> !samba
[01:59] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:59] <haygus> i have an other probleme i think with X server
[01:59] <notv> the computer name shows up but then it says the file or folder does not exist
[02:00] <gman> I need help with my Wireless card. It is enabled, but it has no interface.
[02:00] <ardchoille> haygus: What is the problem with x server?
[02:00] <keenan_the_duck> can someone help me mount a Windows partition?
[02:00] <haygus> if you see my pictures with the real size 1:1
[02:01] <haygus> writings quality "sucks"
[02:01] <haygus> not good quality
[02:01] <keenan_the_duck> I'm trying to manually mount it by changing fstab, but I'm not if it's /dev/sdaX/, or /dev/hdaX/
[02:01] <haygus> i have just re installed kubuntu
[02:01] <keenan_the_duck> where I don't know what X is
[02:02] <haygus> keenan_the_duck => not X server it's for other probleme
[02:02] <keenan_the_duck> well, I'm not sure what to call the Windows partition
[02:02] <gman> Is there a reason why you can't get your wireless card to interface after enabling the firmware?
[02:02] <keenan_the_duck> I don't know what the different between sda and hda is
[02:03] <haygus> when it's in italic it's very bad quality
[02:03] <ardchoille> haygus: Have you tired changing fonts?
[02:03] <ardchoille> *tried
[02:03] <notv> im having troubles accessing files over a network using samba
[02:04] <haygus> no
[02:04] <keenan_the_duck> what's wrong with Samba?
[02:04] <ardchoille> haygus: Try changing fonts and see if that helps
[02:05] <intelikey> i need a grub guru
[02:05] <intelikey> any takers ?
[02:06] <haygus> it's quite better but i see  some trouble
[02:06] <intelikey> all i can get out of grub-install is an error message "/dev/hda1 has no corresponding bios drive"
[02:06] <haygus> but before it was very good i change anything
[02:06] <intelikey> or not hda1 but hda
[02:07] <AmyRose> Hi MrGreencastle
[02:07] <MrGreencastle> Help, I want to try out rc2 of KDE 4. I'm on ubuntu 7.10 and have added the repo. I get a "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kdebugdialog', which is also in package kdebase-bin"        (Copy-pasted)
[02:07] <keenan_the_duck> do you know the difference between hda and sda?
[02:07] <MrGreencastle> Hehe. hi
[02:07] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck slightly
[02:07]  * AmyRose has never seen MrGreencastle before in her life =P
[02:08] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck so what am i missing here ?
[02:08] <keenan_the_duck> I'm trying to mount my Windows partition, but I'm not sure how to edit the fstab file, because I don't know which one is the Windows partition
[02:09] <intelikey> btw i did check hd[a-d] just to make sure it was hda
[02:09] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck cat /proc/partitions    or sudo fdisk -l
[02:09] <keenan_the_duck> I'm sort of a noob, I can't help you
[02:09] <MrGreencastle> Any ideas? I am unable to use apt at all.
[02:09] <intelikey> sok  i can help you.
[02:09] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: OK, what package is failing to install?
[02:09] <AmyRose> You didn't give us that info
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> Oh sorry
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> One sec, lemme run it again
[02:10] <keenan_the_duck> ohh, cool
[02:10] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Please. :)
[02:10] <intelikey> AmyRose looks like kdebase-bin  from his error message
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[02:10] <AmyRose> intelikey: No, that's the one that's already installed that's preventing the one from installing
[02:11] <intelikey> yes i see that now.
[02:11] <MrGreencastle> I just needa way to get rid of it. Thats what its yelling at me about
[02:11] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: There is a way to force it to install anyway, but we'd prefer to avoid that
[02:12] <MrGreencastle> I didn't do that - didn't want it to break further
[02:12] <AmyRose> I know
[02:13] <intelikey> MrGreencastle if you just need a reset, close the kde4 repos and   "sudo apt-get remove --purge kde* && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "
[02:13] <AmyRose> intelikey: Wouldn't that screw it up if you're running KDE?
[02:13] <MrGreencastle> I'm not running KDE, I'm using Gnome
[02:14] <MrGreencastle> I want to test out the rc2 of Kde4
[02:14] <intelikey> so in the grub shell    grub> install (hd0,0)    should setup hda1 as the grub root   no?
[02:14] <MrGreencastle> I'm not a kde user by any means. But it looks very intriguing
[02:14] <intelikey> AmyRose no. the inram copy would remain until the process was complete anyway.
[02:14] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Oh, OK, then intelikey's method would be perfectly safe for you.
[02:14]  * AmyRose is a DEVOTED KDE user
[02:15] <intelikey> stdin_ just the grubby fellow i'm looking for.
[02:15] <AmyRose> intelikey: It would give me problems since I install the full version of KDE, not just Kubuntu's stripped version
[02:15] <MrGreencastle> I actually prefer KDE, but am so used to Gnome that I was really waiting for a release candidate of kde 4 to switch
[02:15] <intelikey> AmyRose you could change the last word to kde and it whould work.
[02:15] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: How did you get used to GNOME?
[02:16] <AmyRose> intelikey: I would instead add "kde" to the end =P
[02:16] <MrGreencastle> Thats what I started on.
[02:16] <Dr_willis> thats like getting used to having your hands tied. :)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> or missing a few fingers.
[02:16]  * AmyRose laughs
[02:16] <stdin> intelikey: yeah?
[02:16] <AmyRose> SO true, Dr_willis
[02:16] <MrGreencastle> Will I be able to get kde 4 on there afterwards?
[02:16] <intelikey> Dr_willis or a wheel chair
[02:16] <Dr_willis> but wearing nice gloves. :)
[02:16] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Sure
[02:16] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Your problem seems to be caused by a package conflict between KDE 3 and KDE 4
[02:17] <MrGreencastle> Yeah, but I can't even remove kde 3
[02:18] <MrGreencastle> Where I'm at now
[02:18] <intelikey> i really do need to get grub installed on that lappy before i give it back to the owner...    nobody have clue-by-four for me ?
[02:18] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Let me find you a complete KDE removal guide to fix your troubles
[02:19] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:19] <AmyRose> I use their guides to remove GNOME and XFCE remnants all the time
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> It still gives me the dependency error for kdebase.
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> I can't use apt at all
[02:20] <AmyRose> OK... let's try this
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> kdebase-bin, sorry
[02:20] <AmyRose> What is the package that's causin the error?
[02:20] <AmyRose> causing*
[02:20] <AmyRose> You're going to have to purge that, then proceed
[02:20] <AmyRose> with removing
[02:21] <MrGreencastle> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kdebugdialog', which is also in package kdebase-bin "   Is the error I get, and its after it tries to install kdebase-runtime-bin=kde4
[02:21] <MrGreencastle> -kde4*
[02:22] <AmyRose> OK
[02:22] <AmyRose> Try sudo aptitude purge kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[02:22] <stdin> !brokenkde4
[02:22] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[02:22] <stdin> MrGreencastle: do that ^ then make sure you install the updated kdebase-bin and try again
[02:26] <thomas__> hello
[02:26] <MrGreencastle> Alright, looks like that worked thanks. Looking forward to joining KDE!
[02:27] <thomas__> overall I'm very happy with Kubuntu...
[02:28] <AmyRose> thomas__: But...?
[02:28] <intelikey> grub-install /dev/hda    '/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."   anyone have a clue why i'm getting that error ?
[02:28] <thomas__> but usplash doesn't work, and from my RTFMing, 1) I can't fix it and 2) it sounds as tho it's never worked for anybody
[02:29] <thomas__> AmyRose: or am I just not RTFMing the right source?
[02:30] <stdin> intelikey: check /boot/grub/device.map has an entry for it, like "(hd0)   /dev/hda"
[02:31] <intelikey> stdin there isn't any /boot/grub yet  i'm trying to install it
[02:31] <thomas__> AmyRose: any ideas?
[02:32] <AmyRose> thomas__: I don't use usplash--just the "pretty colours" in text mode :D
[02:32] <stdin> intelikey: try "grub-install --recheck /dev/hda" maybe
[02:33] <intelikey> stdin ok made a device.map   now it says can't fine device for /boot
[02:33] <intelikey>  /boot is on the root fs
[02:33] <stdin> it probably wants --root-directory=/boot  (it shouldn't though)
[02:33] <family> I'm trying to do an upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, and have run into some problems.  Is anyone online who might be able to help.  My experience level is moderate.
[02:34] <AmyRose> family: Nice nickname :D
[02:34] <stdin> intelikey: or --root-directory=/
[02:34] <intelikey> testing
[02:34] <thomas__> AmyRose: So, it take it that it doesn't work then... maybe it shouldn't be the default until it does... so how do I set up "pretty colours" text?
[02:34] <family> Well, the computer is for use by the family.  :-)
[02:34] <AmyRose> family: Well, you can change your nickname with "/nick <new-nickname>"
[02:34] <AmyRose> thomas__: Wait a minute... you mean the boot screen?
[02:34] <family> AmyRose:  I'll try it now.
[02:35] <AmyRose> :D
[02:35] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose:  works?
[02:35] <AmyRose> yup
[02:35] <thomas__> AmyRose: no, I mean usplash, which is after boot, before x
[02:35] <AmyRose> Oh
[02:35] <AmyRose> that
[02:36] <intelikey> "could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[02:36] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose:  Thanks.  Is there a way to have it automatically put in whom I'm talking to, followed by the colon?  I'm not an IRC-savvy person ---yet!  :-)
[02:36] <AmyRose> thomas__: It just works for me on my laptop, but on my old computer, I just disabled it because it screws up the boot screen
[02:36] <intelikey> let me make sure the device nodes exist
[02:36] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Yes, type the first part of the name, like a few letters, then hit Tab until it ends up on the one you want
[02:36] <intelikey> yeah device nodes exist
[02:36] <intelikey> i have no clue what is wrong with this thing
[02:37] <stdin> intelikey: try /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda ?
[02:37] <intelikey> did no luck
[02:37] <stdin> have you tried installing from the grub shell?
[02:37] <intelikey> exact same message
[02:37] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Great!
[02:37] <thomas__> AmyRose: for me, the screen goes into powersaver, and I cross my fingers hoping that the system is booting ok...
[02:37] <intelikey> yes stdin but to no avail
[02:37] <AmyRose> thomas__: Then you should really disable it
[02:38] <intelikey> stdin if you care to walk me through it i'll try grub shell again
[02:38] <AmyRose> thomas__: Or change the screen resolution
[02:38] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: What's a "CTCP VERSION"?
[02:38] <NickPresta> I'm getting a new graphics card tomorrow and with it, I need to use the latest nvidia drivers. What do I need to do to prepare this computer for tomorrow? I know I should uninstall the current drivers and go back to the default, `nv` drivers. I have also downloaded the .run file for installation tomorrow. What else is needed? Thanks.
[02:38] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Me spying on what IRC client you're using :D
[02:39] <stdin> intelikey: it should be "root (hd0,0)\n setup (hd0)" from what I remember
[02:39] <thomas__> AmyRose: ok, thanks...
[02:39] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: I prefer Konversation over ksirc
[02:39] <AmyRose> It's the only IRC client I've ever used that makes decent use of the fact that you have a mouse/trackpad
[02:40] <stdin> intelikey: and/or "install (hd0,0)"
[02:40] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Fine by me.  I'll try Konversation later; right now I had adept-installer crash while updating to 7.10, and I'm a bit nervous about things working.
[02:40] <AmyRose> while still letting you use the keyboard for everything
[02:40] <ronnie_> hi everyone : )  just wondering whats a good printer thats easily recognized , I'm running on kubuntu 7.10, I've read alot of bad comments on lexmarks so i'll stay away from them, : )
[02:41] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Is it booting up OK?
[02:41] <colorlessblueide> ronnie_: I have a brother HL-5170DN, which has been great for a home printer.
[02:41] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I haven't shut it down!  'Twas in the middle of
[02:41] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: How comfortable are you with the terminal?
[02:41] <thomas__> AmyRose: one other question... I'm tempted to try KDE 4.0 since it's already to rc, and will ship in a couple weeks.... but I'm afaird it'll mess up all the dependancies and hose the box.  Is it safe to try?
[02:42] <AmyRose> thomas__: Yes.
[02:42] <stdin> if you read the instructions
[02:42] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: installing the packages, when it crashed.  I'm now running dpkg  with a reconfigure (I don't remember the exact command) after killing a couple of lock files.   Re terminal, in many ways I prefer it.  (I'm one of the ancient flati; still have trouble with GUIs sometimes.)
[02:42] <thomas__> stdin: do you have a link to read?
[02:42] <intelikey> stdin grub> setup (hd0)  yelds "checking if '/boot/grub/stage1' exists...no" \n "checking if '/grub/stage1' exists...no"  \n\n
[02:42] <stdin> thomas__: see the topic :)
[02:43] <intelikey> "error 15: file not found"
[02:43] <ronnie_> hmm ok thx, I do notice there's hp programs installed, tho never owned a printer so no clue if there ok?
[02:43] <stdin> intelikey: what about "install (hd0,0)" ?
[02:43] <thomas__> stdin: oh, right.... thanks!
[02:44] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I think it was "dpkg --configure -a"
[02:44] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Ah. OK. I recommend doing a "sudo aptitude keep-all", followed by "sudo aptitude update", then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", and keep repeating that last one until it stops giving you errors
[02:44] <intelikey> "error 1: filename must be either an absolute pathname of blocklist"
[02:44] <intelikey> stdin ^
[02:44] <AmyRose> thomas__: I'm getting you the link
[02:44] <stdin> intelikey: hmm, try with the device node then
[02:45] <intelikey> did that too   " error 15: file not found"
[02:45] <thomas__> AmyRose: I don't know if this is really the right place for it, but firefox should be installed by default... or am I just crazy?
[02:46] <stdin> intelikey: did you set the root ?
[02:46] <stdin> thomas__: konquror is the default web browser
[02:46] <intelikey> yep
[02:46] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Thanks.  I'll do that once the configure finishes.   BTW, I noticed that there were problems with the emacs-21 configuration.  Is there a new emacs with the old one gone away?  (Fine by me, as long as my .emacs file still works.  :-)   )
[02:46] <AmyRose> thomas__: No, it shouldn't. Kubuntu already has a browser, and it would waste space on the CD to have two of them by default. Besides, it's not hard to install Firefox after installing Kubuntu.
[02:47] <chealdo> gudday guys do we any available time management software for kubuntu? gonna use it for my internet cafe running kubuntus
[02:47] <AmyRose> thomas__: KDE 4 install directions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[02:48] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: I don't use emacs, sorry. I prefer vim
[02:48] <thomas__> AmyRose: thanks for the link.  What's the adavantage of this other browser?
[02:49] <AmyRose> thomas__: I'm using Firefox at the moment. Konqueror is a faster browser, but it's been neglected since they started really hammering on KDE 4, so I've been using Firefox for the sake of having a more up-to-date browser
[02:49] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I'm learning.  Re emacs v. vim, 'twas the first I learned, and it's been good to me with auctex.  I printed out a vim quickref card at work last week, and plan on learning a bit more than the basics next month.
[02:50] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: /usr/bin/vimtutor ;)
[02:50] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: It got me hooked right away
[02:50] <thomas__> colorlessblueide: vim is model, which takes getting used to, but it's great and you can fly...
[02:51] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I'll try that.  I have a friend who is pretty much a guru; he uses nano all the time, if you can believe it.   That one drives me crazy.
[02:51] <AmyRose> thomas__: Yup
[02:51] <vzduch> nano isn't difficult
[02:51] <vzduch> perhaps vi(m) isn't either, but the learning curve is very steep
[02:52] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: nano drives me nuts because it doesn't have any text selection features at all. Vim has text highlighting, line selection, and even column selection.
[02:52] <AmyRose> vzduch: Not if you take the tutorial that comes with vim
[02:52] <thomas__> what's nano like?
[02:52] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: No, it's easy:  nano's just limited for a lot of stuff I end up doing.   The little I know of vim --- and its availability --- is what is leading me to try to learn it better.
[02:52] <AmyRose> thomas__: Type "nano" in your terminal and find out
[02:53] <thomas__> it's its own thing? Not just another vi or emacs?
[02:53] <AmyRose> thomas__: It's really easy to use, but it's nowhere near as efficient as vim is
[02:53] <AmyRose> thomas__: Nano is a clone of pico.
[02:53] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: Actually, one of my mailboxes is on a machine that only has pine, which uses pico as an editor, which is a lot like nano.
[02:54] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Yeah, cuz nano is a clone of pico because of pine's license
[02:54] <vzduch> pine is a pita.. and why use pico if there's nano *gg*
[02:54] <AmyRose> Yeah, nano has more features than pico
[02:54] <vzduch> pico came w/ SUSE by default up until 9.3
[02:54] <Ed_E> I have a question...by the way, Kubuntu is presented and operates much more logical than the other Ubuntu's...but anyway, My Netgear WG511 (PrismGT/ISL3886) PCMCIA Wireless adapter works in Feisty and all Gutsy Live CD's...but not in Gutsy installed.
[02:54] <vzduch> and there was no official nano rpm at that time
[02:54] <intelikey> pico is a symlink to nano
[02:55] <Ed_E> Card wont light up or nothing, and it acts as if it's seen and says it exists...just that it can't use it.
[02:55] <Ed_E> Is this common?
[02:55] <AmyRose> Ed_E: agreed with you on the good points about Kubuntu :D
[02:56] <Ed_E> Yeah, by the way...I've found Kubuntu to be easier to use for a newbie, more integrated...by the little things like the Kubuntu logo in places making everything seeming together.
[02:56] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Well, dpkg is done, so I'm ready to try your suggestions.  It had errors with various emacs-21, hyperlatex, and python-mode packages.
[02:56] <AmyRose> Ed_E: That's because KDE is very well-integrated
[02:56] <adz21c> Hey, what is the hardware support for the Creative X-Fi in linux like? Has anyone tested this Beta driver that they released? Is there an Opensource driver for it and is it any good?
[02:56] <AmyRose> Ed_E: Do you have a way of updating the computer?
[02:57] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: So, aptitude --keep-all.  What is the purpose of that one?
[02:57] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: No dashes.
[02:57] <Ed_E> Yeag
[02:57] <Ed_E> Doh
[02:57] <Ed_E> Yeah
[02:57] <AmyRose> well, no double-dash
[02:57] <AmyRose> AmyRose: It's to clear aptitude's list of actions
[02:57] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  I'm looking at the man page for aptitude, but I don't understand the why.
[02:57] <AmyRose> aptitude keep-all
[02:57] <Ed_E> I'm gonna try updating and I'll get back to you
[02:58] <vzduch> AmyRose: are you talking to yourself? o0
[02:58] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Ah.  makes sense.
[02:58] <AmyRose> no, vzduch
[02:58] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: It's because aptitude stores everything it was going to do but failed to do, and try again automatically. I just want to make sure we don't create more problems, so I recommend an aptitude keep-all to clear it out
[02:58] <AmyRose> vzduch: Brain fart
[02:58] <AmyRose> :D
[02:59] <AmyRose> AmyRose: Yeah, stop talking to yourself!
[02:59] <vzduch> o0
[02:59] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  I'm thnking of removing auctex and emacs-21, too, since they seem to be problem children.
[02:59] <linuxlady> I just installed kubuntu and I am new to linux
[02:59] <linuxlady> I just installed kubuntu and I am new to linux
[02:59] <linuxlady> oops sorry
[02:59] <linuxlady> I am trying to install flash player for my browser but I don know what to do
[02:59] <tjodalv> which browser?
[02:59] <ardchoille> !flash | linuxlady
[02:59] <ubotu> linuxlady: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:00] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:00] <tjodalv> err...konq...it's not working...fully
[03:00] <se7en_> is the only place where i can find out something of the ram in cat /proc/meminfo which tells me how much ram is in the box but not what kind
[03:01] <linuxlady> ubotu: I have no idea how to compile the install file from the tar, can you tell me how?
[03:01] <AmyRose> Gee, I've been disabling ubufox and using Firefox to install it into ~/.mozilla
[03:01] <ardchoille> linuxlady: ubotu is a bot
[03:02] <AmyRose> !bot | linuxlady
[03:02] <ubotu> linuxlady: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:02] <Ed_E> Do a search on Aptitude for flash
[03:02] <AmyRose> !flash | Ed_E
[03:02] <ubotu> Ed_E: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:03] <tjodalv> I'm just using firefox until it's fixed...
[03:04] <Ed_E> Also if you just open Firefox and go to YouTube.com and try and play a video it will ask you to install it automatically
[03:04] <linuxlady> ok
[03:04] <linuxlady> I will get firefox
[03:04] <thomas__> anybody have 2 cents worth about firestarter v Kmyfirewall?
[03:05] <Ed_E> I don't need help installing flash...I've been running Linux before Ubuntu was thought of LOL
[03:06] <ardchoille> Ed_E: But you recommended someone do a search for flash, and they will find flashplugin-nonfree - which is currently broken.
[03:06] <Ed_E> Oook...when did that happen LOL?  I run Arch now, but I run Kubuntu on my Laptop
[03:06] <linuxlady> how do i install firefox?
[03:06] <linuxlady> I put it into ark
[03:06] <linuxlady> and I extracted it
[03:06] <ardchoille> linuxlady: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:06] <linuxlady> but I dont see the icon to launch it
[03:07] <linuxlady> k
[03:07] <ardchoille> linuxlady: Always check the repos before installing from source
[03:07] <intelikey> thomas__ they are both frontends to iptables
[03:07] <linuxlady> repos?
[03:07] <vzduch> so does the <IP_ADDRESS> run smoothly w/ Firefox?
[03:07] <intelikey> oh sorry that was only 1.4 cents
[03:07] <linuxlady> iḿ new to linux
[03:07] <ardchoille> !repos | linuxlady
[03:07] <ubotu> linuxlady: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:07] <linuxlady> k
[03:07] <thomas__> intelikey: so better to edit iptables myself?
[03:07] <vzduch> I believe I have heard that it also causes problems w/ Firefox
[03:08] <tjodalv> linuxlady: click the K-Menu button > System > Konsole
[03:08] <ardchoille> thomas__: If you can handle iptables yourself, then sure. But, the gui front-ends sure make it much easier
[03:08] <tjodalv> then enter sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:08] <stdin> intelikey: try "mkdir -p /boot/grub ; cp /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub ; grub" and do "root (hd0,1)" \n "setup (hd0)" \n
[03:09] <linuxlady> how can i get samba ?
[03:09] <linuxlady> I need that ot run my local fileserver
[03:09] <ardchoille> !samba | linuxlady
[03:09] <ubotu> linuxlady: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:09] <intelikey> thomas__ i didn't say that.
[03:09] <thomas__> ardchoille: I used to do iptables myself, but then I didn't have a computer for a few years and now I've forgotten how... plus it's likely diffrent now, new versions and all
[03:09] <tjodalv> sudo apt-get install samba
[03:10] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: FYI, installing emacs22 (aptitude install emacs22) followed by (aptitude remove emacs21) seems to have cleared the aptitude errors.  Hope the aptitude dist-upgrade toes well now!  :-)
[03:10] <intelikey> thomas__ i don't normally need a firewall.   nothing running that would open a port
[03:10] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Good
[03:12] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: The aptitude man page says dist-upgrade has been replaced by full-upgrade.  It also discusses "safe-upgrade".   I'm not sure of the differences; if you have time, could you help out.  Meanwhile, I'll continue with dist-upgrade.
[03:14] <thomas__> I'm pulling down kde4 now, put my internet is crumby... if my connection craps out, what's the best way to re-start?
[03:14] <linuxlady> hey i hAVE A sound blaster card on my pc i put kubuntu on now to let you know I am a long time windows user, this is all new to me so I know i have to read a lot but any help is appreciated
[03:15] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same thing. Use those because they aren't as chicken about doing what's needed to make sure the distro upgrades fully
[03:15] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: The safe-upgrade tries to prevent the removal of packages and such
[03:15] <AmyRose> among other things
[03:16] <thomas__> linuxlady: if you figure out how to get samba working pls let me know.... I was looking at the other day, it's /complicated/
[03:16] <linuxlady> thomas thank you I wil needy our help in time with that
[03:16] <linuxlady> right now i need to get my sound working
[03:17] <linuxlady> hehe
[03:17] <vzduch> thomas__: not really
[03:17] <intelikey> lspci hangs the terminal   can't kill it either
[03:18] <vzduch> I used to use Samba when I was in an environment w/ more than 1 machine.. there's a number of good howtos on the net on how to edit smb.conf, which is still the most precise way to get Samba running the way you want it to
[03:18] <intelikey> so does lshw  now i have two hung consoles
[03:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: what's the trouble w/ your sound... I was scanning up, but did see it
[03:18] <linuxlady> i have just installed this on an old computer that had xp on it
[03:18] <linuxlady> my card is a sound blaster esoniq
[03:19] <linuxlady> I don know how to install the drivers or where to find for linux
[03:19] <linuxlady> i am looking for them
[03:19] <vzduch> if it's a cheapo model it should work out of the box
[03:19] <thomas__> vzduch: I'm sure I can get it when the time comes, ... I just had other problems...
[03:20] <thomas__> linuxlady: I think that should work
[03:20] <Novacrust> hmm
[03:20] <ardchoille> !nickspam > Novacrust
[03:20] <linuxlady> thomas it is Sound Blaster Ensoniq AudioPCI/ ES1371
[03:20] <linuxlady> thats the chipset number
[03:20] <thomas__> linuxlady: I had an ensoniq years and and no trouble
[03:20] <vzduch> linuxlady: works out of the box, I have one here myself, never needed to install additional stuff for it
[03:21] <linuxlady> ie had trouble with mine even with the pc i have
[03:21] <thomas__> linuxlady: yeh, ES1371 has worked for years
[03:21] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Thanks muchly.  It's humming away now.  No, it finished already.  Hmmm.  Doesn't seem right:  adept showed ca. 30 minutes to go when it crashed.
[03:21] <linuxlady> i have no sound right now though
[03:21] <linuxlady> :(
[03:21] <thomas__> linuxlady: do you just have one sound card?
[03:21] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:21]  * vzduch has a emu10k1 and a es1371, both have worked ootb w/ all distributions I tried
[03:22] <linuxlady> yes , i mean the motherboard should have onboard sound but that isn working either if it does
[03:22] <linuxlady> but the soundblaster is in the pci slot
[03:22] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  tried it; nothing to do.
[03:22] <vzduch> disregard the onboard sound if you don't need more than 1 soundcard
[03:23] <linuxlady> kubuntu detects my soundblaster but i have no sound
[03:23] <linuxlady> everything is plugged in
[03:23] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Well... did you try another dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: (I.e., it finished without doing anything.)
[03:23] <vzduch> checked mixer settings?
[03:23] <linuxlady> yes
[03:24] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Yep.  Ditto.   I'm wondering if the next step is to reboot?  <shiver>
[03:24] <thomas__> linuxlady: did you disable onboard in the BIOS?
[03:24] <linuxlady> no i haven touched the bios at all
[03:25] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Well, yeah, you could try that, but you should have a live CD on hand in case something goes wrong
[03:25] <thomas__> linuxlady: it could be sending the sound to onboard, did you try pluging your speakers there to see if you hear anything?
[03:26] <linuxlady> ok
[03:26] <linuxlady> i will try that
[03:26] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Er, yeah.  Unfortunately, I just remember that I left it at work.  :-(   I suppose I could download 7.10 again, and burn it now.  :-)
[03:26] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Good idea.
[03:27] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: While waiting, I'll try your idea of Konversation.  :-)
[03:29] <vzduch> for use as a live CD I'd suggest something that can actually be used as such ;)   my impression is that the *buntu live CDs are more for showcasing and for installation to hdd, bot not for productive use or more-than-basic system rescue tasks
[03:30] <vzduch> s/not/not so much/
[03:31] <AmyRose> vzduch: Too late... colorlessblueide is gone
[03:31] <se7en_> vzduch: i agree with you knoppix is much better as a "live cd"
[03:31] <AmyRose> seten: Nice name :-P
[03:32] <intelikey> knoppix invented the live cd      didn't they ?
[03:32] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Well, now trying Konversation.
[03:32] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: I'm back; did you have something?
[03:32] <se7en_> yes mr knoppers did
[03:32] <AmyRose> Hi family :-P
[03:33] <thomas__> linuxlady: are you still with me?
[03:33] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: :-)   I guess I should set it up to automatically use this nickname; 'twill take some exploring of menus, I guess.
[03:33] <vzduch> intelikey: to my knowledge Klaus Knopper didn't _invent_ the live CD, but he perfectioned it
[03:33] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Before I forget, I greatly appreciate your help tonight.  Thanks!
[03:33] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: You're welcome
[03:34] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Ouch!  There's some sort of notification alarm, and it's LOUD.  :-0
[03:34] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: You are welcome to PM me any time here, too.
[03:34] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: PM?
[03:34] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Settings --> Configure Notifications
[03:35] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: yes, I was playing with it.  I like the audible notification (at least for now . . . .  :-)  ).  What does "PM" mean?
[03:36] <vzduch> colorlessblueide: private message, also known as query among IRC users
[03:37] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Private chatting here
[03:39] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Type /query AmyRose to talk to me privately
[03:40] <AmyRose> And if ANYONE PM's me to hit on me, I am going to publicly humiliate you. =3
[03:40] <Agent_bob> got it.  grub finally installed.
[03:40]  * Agent_bob pm's AmyRose
[03:41] <thomas__> AmyRose: why would we hit on you?
[03:42] <jhutchins> Shoot, she's gone now.
[03:42] <Beren78> so she can humiliate us :p
[03:43] <jhutchins> Did pretty much everybody here PM her?
[03:43] <jhutchins> /it
[03:43] <jhutchins> /them
[03:43] <Agent_bob> jhutchins heh.  prolly not.
[03:43] <Agent_bob> jhutchins i'm not registered
[03:43] <jhutchins> Dude.  Fix that.
[03:43] <Agent_bob> for ?
[03:44] <Agent_bob> i don't msg people anywhy
[03:45] <thomas__> too bad linuxlady is gone, I was egear to fix that sound card issue
[03:47] <thomas__> vga mode question here
[03:47] <thomas__> do we drop the 0x0?  eg vga=37d, or vga=0x037d
[03:48] <vzduch> if you use the hex numbers you need the 'Ox'
[03:48] <vzduch> s/Ox/0x/
[03:49] <AmyRose> thomas__: I get an unbelievable number of people hitting on me on IRC.
[03:49] <thomas__> vzduch: thanks
[03:49] <dorkface> Hi all.   Is anyone familiar with rsync?
[03:49] <AmyRose> They find me in some channel and then PM me. I /whois them and then humiliate them publicly in that channel. :D
[03:50] <thomas__> AmyRose: it's your name
[03:50] <dorkface> agreed
[03:50] <thomas__> see nobody ever hit on dorkface
[03:50] <ardchoille> !ot
[03:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:51] <dorkface> No one is familiar with rsync?
[03:52] <se7en_> !rsync
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <se7en_> dorkface: what do you want to know about rsync
[03:58] <meineke> thomas are you still here?
[03:58] <paperfunk> does anyone know how to share an internet connection on a kubuntu box, using a crossover cable?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> paperfunk yep
[03:59] <paperfunk> i've never had any problem doing it with xp, but i can't with this os'
[03:59] <paperfunk> awesome
[03:59] <thomas__> meineke: yes
[04:00] <Agent_bob> install dnsmasq ipmasq and edit /etc/sysctl  set the ipv4-forwarding on
[04:00] <paperfunk> ok
[04:00] <thomas__> linuxlady: did you get any sound?
[04:00] <paperfunk> can i use apt get to install that?
[04:00] <linuxlady> thomas my onboard won work and i really have no other option but to install the drivers on linux somehow
[04:00] <Agent_bob> on the client set the ipv4 forwarding on  and set the default gateway the ip of the server box
[04:00] <thomas__> linuxlady: you're using kubuntu, right?
[04:01] <linuxlady> yes
[04:01] <paperfunk> what's the cmd to install dns masq plz
[04:01] <Agent_bob> paperfunk there is a good howto on the web  i'll see if i can spot it for you
[04:01] <paperfunk> ok thanks
[04:01] <thomas__> linuxlady: is there a speaker icon on the lower right pannel>
[04:01] <thomas__> ?
[04:01] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install dnsmasq* ipmasq*
[04:02] <linuxlady> yes
[04:02] <ardchoille> Scotty: May I pm you?
[04:02] <thomas__> linuxlady: right click it to view mixer window
[04:03] <linuxlady> ok iḿ there
[04:03] <thomas__> linuxlady: is there a dropdown w/ different sound cards?
[04:03] <linuxlady> where?
[04:04] <linuxlady> i don see anything except ensoniq audiopci in the right corner
[04:04] <thomas__> sounds like no
[04:04] <thomas__> good
[04:04] <utente1> yt
[04:05] <thomas__> there should be a bunch of different volume settings, are any of them mutted?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> paperfunk http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-ethernet-crossover.asp has some very useful info   but i'm still looking for the howto i mentioned
[04:05] <linuxlady> everything is green
[04:05] <paperfunk> ok
[04:06] <thomas__> what about the switches tab?
[04:06] <linuxlady> i see a few dim yellows
[04:07] <linuxlady> two reds dimmed
[04:07] <linuxlady> and one bright yellow
[04:07] <thomas__> what are the dim ones labled?
[04:08] <linuxlady> 3d control, mic boost, IEC958, mix mono
[04:08] <thomas__> that sounds ok
[04:09] <Agent_bob> paperfunk http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html is what's in my history file  but it seems dead now...
[04:09] <linuxlady> thomas i might just have to go out and buy an audigy SE
[04:09] <linuxlady> its not too much $
[04:10] <thomas__> linuxlady: did this card work before?
[04:10] <linuxlady> yes on windows
[04:10] <linuxlady> but i always had to install a specific driver
[04:10] <linuxlady> for this gateway pc
[04:10] <limac> hey
[04:11] <thomas__> linuxlady: ES1371 has been around and working on Linux since... 96?
[04:11] <thomas__> linuxlady: it should work
[04:11] <linuxlady> it won work though
[04:11] <linuxlady> nothing happens
[04:12] <linuxlady> i probably have to buy a Audigy se
[04:12] <paperfunk> it says i dont have permission to write to file
[04:12] <paperfunk> and i cant su to root, this is my first time using kubuntu, but i dont remeber defining a root pass
[04:12] <stdin> !root
[04:12] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:12] <thomas__> linuxlady: lets try K > System Settings > Sound System
[04:13] <linuxlady> ok
[04:13] <linuxlady> iḿ there
[04:13] <thomas__> linuxlady: is Enable checked on the genral tab?
[04:13] <linuxlady> yes
[04:14] <linuxlady> also how do i change the time to stop being in 24 hour and into 12 hour?
[04:14] <thomas__> linuxlady: under hardware, what's Select Auido Device say?
[04:14] <linuxlady> autodetect
[04:14] <edellingham> Ok guys...I'm still having the same problem.  I have a Prism compatible card, Netgear wg511...it's work in Feisty, it works when I put the Live CD of Gutsy...but after installing Gutsy...it never works.  Help?
[04:16] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'll get the clock in a sec... try selecting Advanced Linux Sound...
[04:17] <thomas__> linuxlady: then hit apply
[04:17] <linuxlady> ok
[04:17] <thomas__> linuxlady: it should restart quickly
[04:17] <prasoon> hello guys
[04:17] <linuxlady> yea it did
[04:17] <Agent_bob> !sudo | paperfunk
[04:17] <ubotu> paperfunk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: that's a good sign
[04:18] <prasoon> i need help with my battery '*
[04:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: go back to general and hit test sound
[04:18] <linuxlady> nothing
[04:19] <thomas__> linuxlady: just a sec.. my wife's on the phone
[04:19] <linuxlady> k
[04:19] <jameswf-home> anyone toyed around with kde4 yet?
[04:20] <corporeal> jameswf-home: w0rd
[04:20] <prasoon> can anyone please help me out with my battery on IBM?
[04:22] <Agent_bob> ubuntu alternative to "service" ?
[04:24] <colorlessblueide> I had Adept crash during an update; since then I've been getting a "mime type" application/octet stream dialog box all the time.  Is there anyone who might be able to help me troubleshoot?
[04:24] <jameswf-home> try apt-get -f install
[04:25] <vzduch> !aptfix | colorlessblueide
[04:25] <ubotu> colorlessblueide: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:25] <vzduch> dunno if that'll help, but might be worth a try
[04:25] <jameswf-home> !botsnack
[04:25] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:26] <NickPresta> I'm getting a new graphics card tomorrow and with it, I need to use the latest nvidia drivers. What do I need to do to prepare this computer for tomorrow? I know I should uninstall the current drivers and go back to the default, `nv` drivers. I have also downloaded the .run file for installation tomorrow. What else is needed? Thanks.
[04:26] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: I have removed the lock, done the dpkg --configure, and successfully completed an aptitude dist-upgrade.   what I noticed is that, when it crashed, Adept was predicting another 30 minutes or so, but when I used aptitude, it only took a minute or so.
[04:27] <thomas__> linuxlady: lets fix the clock, that's easy
[04:28] <prasoon> i am using IBM R40e with Gusty Gibbon kubuntu edition. on startup i am getting a fatal error in inserting battery. can anyone helppls?
[04:28] <vzduch> NickPresta: under normal circumstances there's no need to download a .run file
[04:28] <thomas__> linuxlady: right click on the clock > date time format > ...
[04:28] <ardchoille> !nvidia | NickPresta
[04:28] <ubotu> NickPresta: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:28] <linuxlady> I figured it out, thanks though
[04:30] <linuxlady> thanks for all your help
[04:30] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'm not sure why your sound isn't working at the moment...
[04:30] <groovesalad> i recently ran "mount -t /dev/hdd1 /disk2 -0 force" to copy files from a windows hd, i also added a line to fstab, i deleted the line now that im done, but now kde logs out as soon as i log in. i forgot to umount it, and i no longer have the drive. what should i do?
[04:30] <thomas__> linuxlady: you hold try the OSS drivers, but that would be a big pain in the behind
[04:31] <thomas__> linuxlady: sorry, that's *could*
[04:31] <NickPresta> vzduch, the package in the repo is too old.
[04:32] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'd hate to have you go buy a new sound card w/out know what the trouble is...
[04:32] <vzduch> NickPresta: are you sure?
[04:33] <ardchoille> NickPresta: iirc, the restricted driver manager can install the nvidia-glx-new driver
[04:33] <NickPresta> vzduch, yes but you're free to double check. I require support for the 8800 GT. AFAIK, only the latest driver (released Dec. 20th) supports it.
[04:33] <NickPresta> vzduch, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html
[04:34] <ardchoille> NickPresta: You may have a point there
[04:34] <NickPresta> =)
[04:34] <thomas__> linuxlady: you might want to double check that you have it plugged into the right socket, and all the little gottchas
[04:35] <thomas__> linuxlady: I've gone in deep on stuff just to figure out I didn't plug something in...
[04:35] <thomas__> linuxlady: did that with a printer once
[04:36] <thomas__> linuxlady: "test page works fine" WTFO!... not plugged, oh...
[04:37] <linuxlady> i
[04:37] <thomas__> linuxlady: the other thing that you might try, if you still have windows, to see if it's working there
[04:37] <linuxlady> ive made sure everything is plugged in. ive always had trouble with this speakers for some unkown reason
[04:38] <thomas__> linuxlady: there you go, you might try different speakers
[04:38] <linuxlady> well i had xp on this computer, and it was running very slowly. itś old - from 99 so when i installed it kubuntu i just replaced windows
[04:38] <thomas__> linuxlady: or headphones
[04:38] <linuxlady> maybe. iĺl try that
[04:38] <linuxlady> iĺl brb
[04:39] <thomas__> linuxlady: fair enought, I've also had my fill of windows
[04:41] <thomas__> anyone else have ideas on this sound problem?
[04:42] <prasoon> i am using IBM R40e with Gusty Gibbon kubuntu edition. on startup i am getting a fatal error in inserting battery. can anyone help pls?
[04:46] <linuxlady> thomas: i just tried headphones, and they dont work either
[04:46] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'm looking into this a little more...
[04:47] <linuxlady> ok wait - i must not have put them in the right area - they do work
[04:47] <linuxlady> sorry. so that means my speakers are the issue - not the card?
[04:47] <thomas__> linuxlady: sounds like it... I'm just glad we fixed this
[04:48] <thomas__> linuxlady: you could try the speakers in a different device, just for sanity's sake
[04:50] <thomas__> linuxlady: that's the trouble with computers they're soo complicated there are too many things that can go wrong, and it's hard to tell what it is
[04:51] <thomas__> linuxlady: does the volume control on the panel work ok?
[04:51] <linuxlady> i just plugged them into my ipod and they dont work with that. the speakers worked the other day with windows though
[04:52] <linuxlady> yes the volume control does work correctly
[04:52] <thomas__> that's good to hear
[04:53] <linuxlady> thomas: no pun intended huh?? haha
[04:54] <thomas__> linuxlady: careful about opening Pundor's Box
[04:54] <thomas__> ;-)
[04:56] <thomas__> well, I've got to go now, wife has some erends (sp?) for me to run
[04:56] <linuxlady> thomas: where do you live? itś 12:00 am where i am
[04:56] <linuxlady> thomas: thanks so much for all your help, i really really appreciate it. you are so nice!
[04:57] <thomas__> Bangsean, Thailand.
[04:57] <NickPresta> That was rather painless. Now I just have to hope that an update for nvidia-glx-new will be available before a new kernel update ;)
[04:57] <colorlessblueide> Can anyone help with a hard drive mount problem?  After upgrade to 7.10, hard drive partition won't mount.
[04:57] <thomas__> linuxlady: no problem, I've been getting help on irc, so I needed to return the favore
[04:58] <thomas__> no e... I can't spell so well
[04:58] <linuxlady> im sure iĺl probably be asking plenty more questions. thanks again
[04:58] <thomas__> best of luck, and a Linus told me, "Happy Linuxing"
[05:07] <osxx> linuxlady: hi
[05:08] <osxx> hey I have an HP printer and was wondering how to get the drivers to work with kubuntu
[05:08] <osxx> it doesn't work at the moment
[05:11] <vzduch> I also have a HP printer, it works out of the box
[05:11] <vzduch> --> 'HP' is insufficient information
[05:11] <osxx> well apparently linux doesn't like older machines
[05:11] <osxx> its an HP all in one
[05:11] <osxx> I dunno the model
[05:12] <linuxlady> osxx: hey
[05:12] <linuxlady> headphones work
[05:12] <vzduch> osxx: you should have a type label on the printer telling you what it is
[05:12] <vzduch> either somewhere near the mains plug or on the bottom
[05:12] <osxx> linuxlady knows
[05:12] <osxx> she's hot
[05:13] <linuxlady> hp psc 2410xi photosmart all in one
[05:13] <homercycles> Help. I uninstalled Samba, rm -rf /etc/samba, then re-installed Samba and it hasn't created /etc/samba again. What can I do?
[05:13] <osxx> see
[05:14] <vzduch> if you call that an older model, what would you call my HP LaserJet 4?
[05:14] <homercycles> I'd call your HP LaserJet 4 a very reliable printer
[05:15] <osx5> at least hte laser will work
[05:15] <osx5> :)
[05:15] <osx5> old reliable
[05:15] <linuxlady> osx5: meebo?
[05:15] <osx5> i'm on aim
[05:16] <osx5> there is a aim type app in kubuntu linuxlady
[05:16] <colorlessblueide> Can anyone help with a "Device lookup failed" message?
[05:16] <osx5> it should be under internet
[05:16] <mrskateboy629> hello
[05:16] <vzduch> I bet it is reliable.. never failed on me, I bought it used, it already had >180,000 pages printed
[05:16] <mrskateboy629> i need some help
[05:16] <osx5> vz either way my printer doesn't work
[05:17] <mrskateboy629> does any one know alot about the kde desktop
[05:17] <vzduch> mrskateboy629: don't ask filler questions, come to the point :)
[05:17] <mrskateboy629> sorry
[05:17] <osx5> KDE is the best desktop ever
[05:18] <osx5> a favorite of mine
[05:18] <osx5> even like it more than osx
[05:18] <osx5> linuxlady is asking me how to register on freenode
[05:18] <osx5> anyone know the commands?
[05:18] <mrskateboy629> i need someone to like remotly control my computer or something and set up my kde desktop so that it looks normal
[05:18] <colorlessblueide> !lvm
[05:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> like video drivers
[05:19] <NickPresta> !tell osx5 about register
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> ect
[05:19] <osx5> !tell linuxlady about register
[05:19] <osx5> ty
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> or maybe a tutorial or something
[05:20] <mrskateboy629> i'm brand new to linux and i have no idea what to do
[05:20] <osx5> its ok
[05:20] <osx5> linuxlady is a newb and so am I
[05:20] <mrskateboy629> or where to start
[05:20] <osx5> skate linux is mostly command line oriented
[05:21] <osx5> most of the auto installers are confusin to use
[05:21] <osx5> i just use the cli
[05:21] <mrskateboy629> what is cli
[05:21] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, ask your questions. try to be as descriptive as possible. We can help you
[05:21] <vzduch> mrskateboy629: define 'look normal'
[05:21] <osx5> command line interface
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> i need help setting up my video drivers first off
[05:22] <osx5> you know in movies where you see hackers typing in a dos like screen
[05:22] <osx5> that's cli
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> thanx osx5
[05:22] <osx5> except they're on Linux
[05:22] <osx5> :)
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> i'm not really familiar with any commands or anything
[05:22] <vzduch> !nvidia | mrskateboy629
[05:22] <ubotu> mrskateboy629: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> thanx
[05:23] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, CLI stands for Command Line Interface. It is a text interface to shell. You don't _have_ to use it intensively if you don't want to. However, it is very powerful and is "better" than some graphical alternatives.
[05:24] <mrskateboy629> where do i learn how to use it
[05:24] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, http://www.linuxcommand.org/ is a great place to start.
[05:25] <mrskateboy629> ok thanx
[05:25] <roy_t> hello, I have a problem I hope someone can help with. when I startup ubuntu I get an alert like "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one.", I click ok but it just keeps repeating
[05:25] <osx5> keep in mind most linux auto installers are crap, not near windows in ease
[05:25] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, if you require help with a specific issue, just ask.
[05:25] <osx5> cli is a lot easier and faster
[05:25] <NickPresta> osx5, what are you talking about?
[05:25] <vzduch> roy_t: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:25] <osx5> nick i tried to use the package installer on kubuntu
[05:25] <osx5> had no idea what was going on
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have
[05:26] <roy_t> I have kubuntu
[05:26] <NickPresta> What, specifically, in Adept, was confusing you?
[05:26] <osx5> u have 7.10
[05:26] <osx5> most likely
[05:26] <roy_t> but I ran the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> okay thank
[05:26] <roy_t> then had the problem after reboot
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> you
[05:26] <roy_t> sould I be asking in #ubuntu instead?
[05:26] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, open up a Konsole (K Menu > System > Konsole) and then type: lsb_release -a
[05:26] <osx5> kubuntu is ubuntu technically so it shouldn't matter where you ask
[05:27] <vzduch> roy_t: --> /join #ubuntu <-- won't hurt to also ask there
[05:27] <vzduch> because it's likely a ubuntu-desktop problem
[05:28] <roy_t> no ones replying there though, so I asked here as well :p
[05:29] <intelikey> i need a package management option to allow the newest version of each package on a disk to be installed or set as installable     is there any functionality in apt aptitude or dselect that could do this  ?
[05:31] <NickPresta> intelikey, perhaps apt-cdrom? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom and then `apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[05:32] <osx5> nickpresta: if the auto installers are so easy then how come i couldn't install firefox
[05:32] <intelikey> NickPresta doesn't it need a database   or can it build one ?
[05:32] <osx5> i'm used to mac and windows where u have a setupfile
[05:32] <osx5> i had to use cli
[05:32] <NickPresta> osx5, PEBKAC? I'm not sure why you, specifically, had trouble
[05:32] <intelikey> :)
[05:33] <NickPresta> intelikey, well, if you add the cdrom as a source, it should look for package information on the disk.
[05:33] <intelikey> but there isn't any package information   just the .deb's
[05:34] <oakxx> asd
[05:35] <NickPresta> intelikey, hmm. According to the APT HOWTO page, "suppose that you're using revision 0 of the stable version of Debian and you buy a CD with revision 3. You can use APT to upgrade your system from this new CD. To do this, use apt-cdrom". I don't know if it will build a database with the deb packages. It might be worth a shot. Otherwise, you might have to get fancy with `dpkg --compare-versions` and some loop
[05:35] <NickPresta> s.
[05:36] <jameswf-home> !beer
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <jameswf-home> ubotu: beer is good
[05:36] <linuxlady> i cant access my other harddrive. it shows up under storage media - but no files appear once i click it. itś 80GB, and i have a ton of music on it. i get this message when i click it: your-password
[05:36] <intelikey> yeah i'm reading the man page for apt-cdrom,   it's can NOT do what i need.
[05:37] <NickPresta> intelikey, hmm. I don't know enough to suggest anything other than writing a small shell script.
[05:37] <linuxlady> oh not your -password sorry. hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:37] <intelikey> yeah i will probably have too.
[05:38] <linuxlady> anyone know how i can get that fixed?
[05:38] <osx5> her HD has NTFS on it i think
[05:38] <intelikey> linuxlady internal hd ?
[05:38] <osx5> the other drive
[05:38] <linuxlady> yes
[05:39] <intelikey> add a line in /etc/fstab for it
[05:39] <intelikey> if ntfs  you should use ntfs-3g  i think.
[05:39] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:39] <osx5> yhou need to walk her on this one, she is a newb
[05:40] <osx5> she probably doesn't know what you mean entirely
[05:40] <osx5> lol
[05:40] <intelikey> if just about any other fs i can spit you out a string for it pretty quickly
[05:41] <intelikey> osx5 you may indeed be correct.  but i never assume ignorance      unless the alternative assumption is mallus
[05:41] <linuxlady> osx5: hey
[05:41] <osx5>  hey
[05:41] <linuxlady> osx5: :(
[05:41] <osx5> what
[05:41] <osx5> why  the sad face linuxlady?
[05:41] <intelikey> linuxlady so what fs is it ?
[05:42] <linuxlady> i think itś nfts
[05:42] <intelikey> !NTFS-3g | linuxlady
[05:42] <ubotu> linuxlady: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions.  If you have a line like that, you can simply do "sudo mount -a" to mount it
[05:46] <linuxlady> this is what i got after running the script:
[05:46] <linuxlady> cd
[05:46] <linuxlady> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[05:47] <intelikey> i would change the options personally   s/defaults,auto,rw,nouser/defaults,auto,rw,fmask=113,dmask=002/     but that's just me.
[05:48] <linuxlady> ntfs is inconsistent or you have hardware faults and then it tells me to run something in windows (which i replaced completely with linux)
[05:48] <intelikey> oooops   defaults and auto are redundant
[05:48] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh. Kubuntu puts both by default. Strange
[05:48] <osx5> NTFS = junk
[05:49] <intelikey> but then again...
[05:49]  * intelikey doesn't do windows
[06:40]  * AK_Kenny is away: I'm busy
[06:41] <NickPresta> !tell AK_Kenny about away
[06:55] <Slimbsd> Hello
[06:57] <colorlessblueide> t
[07:08] <mrskateboy629> hello i have a question
[07:08] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, yes, what is it?
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> i have 2 geforce xfx 8500gt video cards and my resolution is at 640x480 or something and it says that it cant go any higher
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> how do i get it to go higher
[07:09] <NickPresta> did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> i think
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> i went to that package thing and installed what i thought were the drivers
[07:10] <NickPresta> in your xorg.conf file, what is under the 'Driver' option?
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> i dont know what that means
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> is that a command
[07:11] <mrskateboy629> ?
[07:11] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, press "Alt + F2" and then type: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:11] <NickPresta> paste that file in a pastebin and then give me the link.
[07:11] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[07:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:12] <Solifugus> I cannot use the upgrade kubuntu, because I get this error:  Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/deb/http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:12] <sistema> help
[07:12] <NickPresta> Solifugus, disable the third party repository
[07:12] <Solifugus> ok
[07:13] <Solifugus> NickPresta: can you remind me where to do that?
[07:14] <intelikey> Solifugus adept
[07:14] <NickPresta> Solifugus, Either use Adept > File > Manage or edit your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) and comment (using the # symbol infront of the repo) the repository for skype
[07:14] <Solifugus> NickPresta: Ok.. i found it.. I will try this again.
[07:14] <intelikey> adept package manager extraordenair
[07:15] <mrskateboy629> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49937/
[07:15] <sistema> I can not open youtube in konqueror
[07:15] <mrskateboy629> i think this is it
[07:16] <ardchoille> !flashissue | sistema
[07:16] <ubotu> sistema: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:17] <sistema> ok
[07:17] <sistema> thanks
[07:17] <Solifugus> NickPresta: seems to have worked.. thanks.. hope this doesn't take long
[07:18] <intelikey> 6 hours if all goes well
[07:18] <mrskateboy629> i think my video driver is nv
[07:19] <mrskateboy629> the other one says vesa
[07:19] <mrskateboy629> i dont know how to configure them
[07:21] <intelikey> well time for rounds again.   gooday fellows.
[07:21] <mrskateboy629> can anyone help me
[07:22] <mrskateboy629> i need help configuring my video drivers
[07:23] <mrskateboy629> hello
[07:25] <se7en_> mrskateboy629: you need the right driver ... the easyest way to do that is to go to system settings > advanced > restricted driver and hope that kubuntu finds the right driver
[07:26] <mrskateboy629> it says i have the right drivers but it still wont let me change the resolution
[07:27] <se7en_> if you have nv you don't have the right driver
[07:27] <se7en_> because the right driver would be nvidia
[07:28] <mrskateboy629> it says i have the nvidia
[07:28] <mrskateboy629> it says nvidia accelerated drivers
[07:29] <se7en_> lspci | grep VGA gives you what
[07:31] <mrskateboy629> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49939/
[07:32] <mrskateboy629> the link has my info\
[07:33] <se7en_> yes i know but since i am on a 21km2 island in the golf of thailand my internet isn't as fast as the rest of the worlds
[07:35] <mrskateboy629> sorry
[07:35] <se7en_> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <mrskateboy629> should i choose nvidia for the driver
[07:37] <Lame> testing out the new Kubuntu nightly build
[07:37] <se7en_> yes and the reolution you like
[07:37] <mrskateboy629> thanks
[07:39] <Lame> my dream is linux will be the os of choice
[07:39] <Lame> and it looks like its getting there lol
[07:40] <se7en_> Lame: than people would have to spend some time to learn about there box and os ... most of them only want to use it
[07:41] <Lame> well its getting to the point that the simplicity in linux is getting better
[07:41] <Lame> and eventually as easy or easier than say windows
[07:41] <Lame> just look at linux 3-4 years ago, and look at it today, its evolving pretty rapidly
[07:42] <se7en_> thanks to all the help form the comunity
[07:42] <sistema>   Kafeine because I am not playing a movie on DVD?
[07:42] <sistema>  As install codecs?
[07:42] <sistema>  I do not like anything?
[07:43] <Lame> i just hope it keeps progressing the way it is
[07:43] <Lame> and possibly grow or "evolve" faster now
[07:44] <Lame> that more people are setting their eye's on it
[07:44] <Lame> with the addition of all the cool eye candy , makes vista and the like look a bit shabby
[07:45] <se7en_> yes lets hope at least the hardware supplier should be more helpfull with diver
[07:46] <Lame> yep i hope that too
[07:46] <Lame> i hear so many wanting to actually use linux when they see a cool video of compiz in action
[07:47] <sistema> ??
[07:47] <Lame> hardware vendors will eventually have to take linux seriously
[07:48] <Lame> and it looks like some already are
[07:50] <Lame> what would make my day , is to see a game at the store one day ,and on the side it says "Linux OS"
[07:50] <Lame> now that would put a big smile on me lol
[07:50] <se7en_> well i stoped to try to convince my friends to use linux because ... "this doesn't look like xp and i don't want to type so much ..." i help if someone realy want to use linux (if i can) but no more convincing
[07:50] <Lame> yea your right se7en
[07:51] <Lame> but right now at this particular moment, i dont think its "ready" for people to adopt
[07:51] <Lame> not the average computer users anyways
[07:51] <se7en_> but we both and many more know LINUX IS COOL!!
[07:51] <Lame> but its getting very close i think
[07:52] <se7en_> yes thanks to windows vista :)
[07:52] <Lame> haha
[07:52] <Lame> yea vista has to be the worst os ever made
[07:52] <Lame> lol
[07:52] <Lame> its embarrasing that you need all that ram/cpu for vista to do 3d
[07:52] <Lame> and with linux, someone with a pc 5 years old can run it just fine
[07:53] <Lame> and imo it looks 10x's better
[07:53] <se7en_> i run compiz and i have 512 mb ram without problems my vista didn't even start
[07:54] <Lame> haha
[07:54] <Lame> when i have friends visit, i have to load up compiz to just make them stare at the screen
[07:55] <NickPresta> Lame, I do that. My friends hate me :)
[07:55]  * flaccid yawns
[07:55] <Lame> haha
[07:55] <Lame> i say..... does your pc do this?
[07:55] <Lame> haha
[07:55] <se7en_> :)
[07:56] <Lame> im waiting for the day i can just format my hard drive and have only kubuntu on it lol
[07:56] <funcrush> I just finish to install kde4, but the fonts are too small so I can't read them. how can I fix it?
[07:56] <se7en_> close a window and it burnes away and they can't close there mouth anymore
[07:56] <flaccid> anything on topic here today heh
[07:57] <Lame> haha yep i would set my flames to look dark blue/purplish and have that after smoke lol
[07:57] <Lame> it looked very cool
[07:57] <ardchoille> !away > f00f|sleeping
[07:58] <Lame> i think what would be another neat effect, is maybe the window turns liquid and splashes away or down or something
[07:58] <Lame> just an idea
[07:58] <Lame> lol
[07:58] <funcrush> or how can I capture a screen in KDE4?
[07:58] <ardchoille> !ot | Lame
[07:58] <ubotu> Lame: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:58] <flaccid> funcrush: #kde
[07:59] <funcrush> thank you
[07:59] <Lame> oh sorry ubotu
[08:01] <Lame> my apologies to all, well i gotta go anyways, just wanted to drop in, thanks se7en/Nick for the chat,,, hope all has a great new years
[08:02] <Lame> alsp P.S. keep up the good work :D
[08:02] <se7en_> :)
[08:25] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a good app to monitor CPU speed for a core2duo PC in kde?
[08:29] <HelloTher> Hello can someone help me please?
[08:31] <HelloTher> helooooooooooooooooo?
[08:38] <bucatoamano> who knows convertIT ?
[08:50] <sam__> Hi, I'm getting nspluginviewer errors from flash things in Konqueror. Does anyone know how I workaround this?
[08:52] <ardchoille> !flashissue | sam__
[08:52] <ubotu> sam__: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:30] <Arv3n> Hello.
[09:30] <Arv3n> Would anyone be kind enough to host my repo for my Ubuntu-based distro?
[09:30] <Arv3n> I'm willing to pay.
[09:38] <fadey> Hi. Does anyone knows where the default gusty kernel .deb package (the one that is on cd) could be found?
[09:48] <se7en_> fadey: i think it is in /usr/src
[09:52] <sahin_h> fadey: Why are you wondering about that? Would you like to download it?
[09:54] <sahin_h> fadey: However here's the lates generic kernel: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[10:03] <selfsearcher[]> hi !
[10:03] <posingaspopular> hi selfsearcher[]
[10:05] <selfsearcher[]> I need to know how to make my scanner Epson Perfection 3590 work in Gutsy :|
[10:06] <ksal> hello
[10:06] <ksal> where can i find libraries for mp3 encoding?
[10:06] <posingaspopular> i never got my scanner/printer to work in kubuntu ;(
[10:06] <posingaspopular> !mp3 | ksal
[10:06] <ubotu> ksal: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <ksal> posingaspopular: i have them installed
[10:06] <ksal> but i need them for my soundkonverter
[10:07] <ksal> i need to convert something to mp3, but program doesn't know where those libraries are located.
[10:07] <ksal> and i need it right now :/
[10:07] <ksal> can somebody help me?
[10:07] <selfsearcher[]> posingaspopular: it's not a question about the format but abuout how to make the linux drviers work in Gutsy. They are epokwa for Fedora (so they say)
[10:07] <posingaspopular>  /usr/lib
[10:08] <posingaspopular> erm @ ksal
[10:29] <andrew__> How do I uninstall the graphics drivers as they are messing up my linux?
[10:32] <TimS> If I moust a second hard drive as /home/ will it copy all the data in /home over from my current hard drisk?
[10:37] <bazhang> TimS: moust? not sure what you mean
[10:37] <Jucato> s/moust/mount/
[10:38] <bazhang> TimS: you want to copy data to a new drive?
[10:42] <Tm_T> hi Jucato bazhang & other kids
[10:42] <Jucato> hi Tm_T
[10:42] <bazhang> hi Tm_T!
[10:44] <posingaspopular> no hi's for posingaspopular?
[10:45] <bazhang> hi posingaspopular :}
[10:45] <Jucato> posingaspopular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:45]  * Jucato is still trying to balance expenses...
[10:51] <TimS> bazhang: Yes, I have a new hard drive I want to install and I want to copy my home directory to it and have it mounted as Home
[10:52] <bazhang> TimS: you want to clone your system to a new hard drive? not sure if only moving home will  do it
[10:52] <TimS> I only want to move the home directory, my current HD is running out of space, so I want a second HD for my data while the first stays for the system
[10:53] <posingaspopular> are they going to be synced simultaniously
[10:53] <bazhang> TimS: like a raid drive?
[10:53] <TimS> No.
[10:53] <posingaspopular> yea it's easy for one hd to see the other and mount, actively doing is above my pay grade
[10:54] <TimS> Actualy, sort of yes.
[10:54] <bazhang> heh
[10:55] <fadey>  I'm having problems with the latest kernel package (doesn't detect my hard drive). So I was wondering if I could downgrade manualy to the kernel I've been using before
[10:58] <se7en_> fadey: you should have the choice to boot into an older kernel in your grub boot menu
[11:00] <fadey> se7en_: the only one I've got right now is from the earlier release 7.06 (2.6.20). However when I upgraded to gusty the 2.6.22 kernel was working fine. That is the one I'm looking for
[11:08] <juan> fadey: ubuntu repos only host the newset version, im not sure where you could find  an old version, you could compile it if you really wanted tho
[11:09] <jack> i need help with playing DVD movies
[11:09] <jack> the problem is not libdvd
[11:09] <jack> the problem is mounting the device which is not working at all
[11:10] <bazhang> jack: hardware problem?
[11:10] <jack> no because the drive reads audio cds
[11:12] <HS^> how do i make 'sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd'  permanent? i added 'blacklist ehci_hcd' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and added 'DISABLED_MODULES="ehci_hcd" ' in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common. It still loads.
[11:13] <posingaspopular> HS^: you should probably tell put it somewhere in your boot config files
[11:13] <posingaspopular> that's about as much as I know about that
[11:13] <HS^> but it also loads it after boot
[11:14] <HS^> it seems dynamic.
[11:14] <jussi01> How does one change the size of the icons on the desktop? It doesnt seem to be in configure desktop.
[11:14] <SSSSSSS> Hello can someone please help me?
[11:14] <Jucato> jussi01: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons ->  Advanced tab?
[11:15]  * jussi01 hugs Jucato Thanks :)
[11:15] <Jucato> :D
[11:16] <sourcemaker> Is there a reason... why the Kernel Timer Frequency in kubuntu is only 250?
[11:18] <smax> my linux box is not connected to the internet
[11:18] <jack> thanks for the help
[11:18] <smax> where can i get an implementatino of lisp
[11:18] <smax> gcl or clisp. which ever is prefered?
[11:18] <smax> im spoiled by apt
[11:19] <jussi01> !info clisp
[11:19] <ubotu> clisp: GNU CLISP, a Common Lisp implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.41-1 (gutsy), package size 3491 kB, installed size 9596 kB
[11:19] <smax> i dont have apt
[11:19] <smax> oh is it on the cd ?
[11:20] <smax> i'll have to uncomment the line in /etc/sources.list
[11:20] <smax> im using the version prior to gutsy.
[11:20] <smax> can i install gutsy from cd-rom with out overwriting the contents in /home ?
[11:21] <bazhang> smax: no
[11:22] <smax> damn
[11:22] <smax> bazhang: so i would have to back up to an other storage device?
[11:22] <smax> great i'll have to learn partitioning.
[11:22] <ubunturos> smax: you should have had /home as a different partition, I guess, you could have then
[11:23] <bazhang> smax: best to back up anyway :}
[11:23] <smax> should i mount /home from an other partition?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> smax: common lisp rules
[11:23] <smax> :P
[11:24]  * smax has no idea about linux partitioning. checks google
[11:26] <sourcemaker> !fdisk
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <awen_> smax: qtparted is a graphical partitioner, and as far as i know it is on the live cd
[11:27] <awen_> !qtparted
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <bazhang> !info parted
[11:27] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-5.1ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 160 kB
[11:30] <The_ManU_212> hi
[11:30] <The_ManU_212> i installed kguitar and all seems to be fine but i hear no sound, timidity server is running... can you help me?
[11:32] <smax> kguitar?
[11:32] <white_eagle> anyone of you owns a ps3?
[11:32]  * smax is afriad of accidently destroying data with qtparted.
[11:33] <smax> yet if im compelled to back up to a seperate storage device, i could just use that  device as /home's partition
[11:34] <awen_> smax: you should backup everything in your home-directory first
[11:34]  * smax has mad porn.
[11:34] <smax> large capacity
[11:36] <smax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-GdiIYI-iA
[11:40] <posingaspopular> !tmi
[11:40] <ubotu> Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...
[11:41] <shaye> know what?
[11:41] <shaye> did you like that?
[11:41] <The_ManU_212> smax it is like guitar pro or tuxguitar
[11:42] <HS^> what is the kubuntu startup script, where i can add a command like 'rmmod whatver'
[11:42] <jca_> hi All
[11:43] <jca_> How do i check if i have installed 32 or 64 bit kubuntu ?
[11:43] <awen_> HS^: why not blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:43] <shaye> uname -a
[11:44] <HS^> awen_,  because it doesnt work.
[11:44] <pag> uname -m  is easier :)
[11:44] <HS^> it still loads the module.
[11:44] <shaye> ahh !
[11:44] <jca_> 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Is this 64 bit?
[11:44] <HS^> awen_,  i had to actually move the module itself
[11:44] <pag> jca_, 64bit
[11:44] <shaye> yes
[11:44] <HS^> so that it could not be leaded again.  but it still loads it on boot time
[11:44] <shaye> so is this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-GdiIYI-iA
[11:45] <jca_> yea uname -m was easy, hehe thanks
[11:45] <shaye> somewhere in man.
[11:45] <awen_> HS^: that shouldn't be possible, which module is it?
[11:45] <jca_> im trying to install the closed source creative x-fi driver and it complains that 32 bit not supported :(
[11:45] <HS^> awen_, ehci_hcd
[11:46] <HS^> awen, here was my original question:
[11:46] <HS^> How do i make 'sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd'  permanent? i added 'blacklist ehci_hcd' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and added 'DISABLED_MODULES="ehci_hcd" ' in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common. I also added 'ehdci_hcd' in '/etc/hotplug/blacklist' a file that i created. It still loads. It seems to load dynamic instead of just as boot, because using one time the command modprobe -r is not enough.. it just reloads after a couple minuts.
[11:46] <HS^> As a last option I tried 'sudo mv /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko.bu' in the hope that the kernel wouldnt see it anymore. But it still loads.
[11:46] <HS^> see i tried a lot. but now i just want to place rmmod ehci_hcd in startup script, and fysically remove the module. and be done with it
[11:49] <awen_> HS^: placing it in your .bashrc should unload it when you login
[11:49] <HS^> ok
[11:49] <knights>  I'm looking at buying a new laptop and I'm considerig a core 2 duo but what about the 'serious MMU bugs' I heard about? Does this not apply to core duo?
[11:51] <knights> whats a good channel for cpu talk?
[11:51] <posingaspopular> knights: #hardware afaik
[11:51] <knights> posingaspopular: Thanks!
[11:52] <vadya> knights: i have Core2Duo with no problems
[11:52] <knights> Whats the difference between Core2Duo and CoreDuo?
[11:53] <vadya> knights: Core2Duo has 64bit support
[11:53] <readyx> give it to me baby - aha - aha!
[11:54] <knights> 64bit support, if you don't need more than 4GB, is a gimmick really tho isn't it? I've never seen any test that show 64bit to be faster, its normally slightly slower
[11:55] <knights> I presume coreduo has better battery life than core2duo?
[11:55] <disting> hey , how can i turn up the entire audio the whole thing other than playing on vlc player becuase vlc is the only one that can turn my computer volume to it's optimum? thank you XD
[11:55] <knights> disting: gnome-alsamixer?
[11:56] <knights> (or is that alsamixer-gnome ?)
[11:56] <knights> oops! This is kubuntu! :)
[11:56] <knights> kmix?
[11:57] <knights> but you couldstill use gnome-alsamixer- I think its better thanb kmix, which is a bit of a mess
[11:58] <vadya> knights: i can't compare battery lifes as i don't have coreduo :)
[11:59] <vadya> knights: about performance - i don't feel any discomfort with speed
[11:59] <nado> hi there
[12:00] <vadya> knights: here are quite interesting articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Duo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2_Duo
[12:00] <disting> i hate vlc it's so borin gi can't believe i used it for so long(4 years) :S :@ i am angry
[12:00] <nado> i'm using a pretty old notebook and would like to know what graphics chip it has, any idea how i could get to know that?
[12:01] <posingaspopular> lshw @ nado
[12:01] <posingaspopular> in a a terminal/konsole
[12:01] <knights> disting: boring??? Whatever happened to stuff like stable, powerful, reliable- all of which vlc is.
[12:02] <nado> posingaspopular: thx, that worked ;)
[12:04] <The_ManU_212> i installed kguitar and all seems to be fine but i hear no sound, timidity server is running... can you help me?
 it sucks just boring, i feel sorry for people who uses vlc which is probebly everyone? that sucks eh? they learned bad education? thank you :D
[12:07] <padey> disting then what do you recomment? vlc is just the best when it comes to powerful :S
[12:07] <padey> recommend*
[12:09] <awen_> I would go with kmplayer or kaffeine
[12:14] <marioXXX> hello
[12:14] <padey> well for first they don't play dvd iso files if you drag them into the program :/
[12:14] <padey> vlc does
[12:14] <marioXXX> how can i reset konqueror's menu and icon bars to KDE's default ones?
[12:15] <padey> settings -> configure toolbars -> default
[12:15] <Jucato> I don't think that's what he meant though...
[12:16] <Jucato> hm... can't seem to find the FAQ...
[12:16] <Jucato> marioXXX: try this (the first part) http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[12:17] <crazy_bus> is it usual for feed items from akregator to go into the wrong slot.  i.e. items from feed a appearing in feed e?
[12:17] <Jucato> crazy_bus: um... no..
[12:18] <crazy_bus> because it's been happening to me a bit lately
[12:18] <marioXXX> Jucato: thanx
[12:19] <crazy_bus> the feed also know has the wrong picture and description while containing the correct title.  It's very strange
[12:22] <konrad> I'm trying to use smb4k to mount network shares, but it tries to scan eth0 (internet) instead of eth1 (local network). Anyone know how I can get around this or is there a better way than using smb4k?
[12:23] <jussi01> konrad: are they permanent shares?
[12:23] <jussi01> ie. you want them there all the time?
[12:24] <konrad> jussi01: As good as all of the time, yes.
[12:25] <jussi01> konrad: then I suggest using !samba to mount them via !fstab
[12:25] <jussi01> konrad: go private msg the bot and read the lnks from those 2
[12:26] <etfb> Anyone got wifi working with Kubuntu Gutsy?  I'm getting odd behaviour and I'd like to know if it's a common problem.
[12:26] <konrad> !samba
[12:26] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:26] <konrad> jussi01: tnx!
[12:26] <jussi01> !fstab > konrad
[12:26] <jussi01> konrad: yw :)
[12:27] <jussi01> etfb: which chipset?
[12:27] <etfb> jussi01: Intel 3945ABG - it's a Toshiba Satellite laptop
[12:28] <jussi01> etfb: iirc, that should work out of the box - what are the issues?
[12:28] <etfb> jussi01: Wired works fine - plug it in and knetworkmanager connects immediately.  Wifi doesn't connect until you beg it (click on the menu item for the access point) and waaaaaait...
[12:29] <etfb> jussi01: Was perfectly fine in Feisty.
[12:29] <jussi01> etfb: im not sure about those issues, sorry.
[12:29] <etfb> jussi01: Ah well...
[12:29] <jussi01> etfb: have you had a google aound?
[12:30] <etfb> jussi01: I've offered prayers and sacrifices to Google, but She has not seen fit to reveal the Truth to my mortal eyes.
[12:30] <jussi01> etfb: hehe, check the forums also ;)
[12:31] <etfb> jussi01: The forums seem to be full of bug reports and a million people saying "me too", but no answers.  Perhaps I should google for the specific chipset and/or driver.
[12:33] <jussi01> etfb: yep. also, have a look on lp - there maybe a bug/answer there
[12:35] <etfb> jussi01: If I have a problem with wifi + networking + Intel 3945ABG + Toshiba + the ipw3945 driver + Ubuntu + KDE + knetworkmanager, which would you suggest are the relevant things to focus on?  I've been assuming there was an issue with wifi in general in Kubuntu.
[12:35] <etfb> jussi01: What's lp?
[12:36] <jussi01> !lp | etfb
[12:36] <ubotu> etfb: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:36] <jussi01> etfb: no focus on the chipset.
[12:37] <jussi01> imho
[12:37] <jussi01> the chipset, plus kubuntu
[12:37] <etfb> jussi01: Cool.  If you can't give me a ready-made answer, giving me a set of better questions to ask is just as good, or possibly better.  Thanks!
[12:38] <jussi01> etfb: good luck, and let us know if you get a fix :D
 totem movie player XD thank you
[12:56] <DOLLY_> moin
[12:57] <DOLLY_> kennt jemand von euch das problem:
[12:57] <DOLLY_> kubuntu weigert sich einfach, bei den einstellungsfenstern in den systemverwaltungsmodus zu wechseln. bei einem klick auf den entsprechenden button, wartet er ein paar sekunden und dann sehe ich wieder das selbe bild vor mir.
[12:57] <posingaspopular> !gr
[12:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:57] <DOLLY_> was muss ich tun um den fehler zu beheben
[12:57] <tsdgeos> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:58] <DOLLY_> danke
[13:00] <pass> hello fellow kubunters, does anybody know if there is a permanent configuration file for the screen blanking parameter "xset s"
[13:02] <Xplicit> !mp3
[13:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:04] <etfb> I have a suspicion that something has gone wrong with DBus on my Kubuntu Gutsy system.  Does that make sense, or is it like saying my keyboard no longer works...?  Is it even possible for a system to work without DBus?
[13:07] <Xplicit> possible but i think kde would have a hard time
[13:08] <pass> hello fellow kubunters, does anybody know if there is a permanent configuration file for the screen blanking parameter "xset s"
[13:11] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:13] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:16] <Xplicit> what help do you want?
[13:28] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:29] <bazhang> mauri: need more info than that
[13:29] <Xplicit> !ask | mauri
[13:29] <ubotu> mauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:30] <mauri> bazhang: i'm not able to update amule servers, it crashs
[13:30] <mauri> Xplicit:  i'm not able to update amule servers, it crashs
[13:31] <The_ManU_212> hi
[13:31] <jussi01> !hi | The_ManU_212
[13:31] <ubotu> The_ManU_212: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:31] <The_ManU_212> whre is the installationdirectory of java in edgy eft?
[13:33] <awen_> The_ManU_212: try looking in /usr/lib/jvm/...
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> awen_: no it isnt there
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> the thing is i need a soundbank for tuxguitar
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> but cant find javas installation directory
[13:35] <awen_> found out which java package you have installed with "dpkg -l | grep java"
[13:35] <awen_> then "dpkg -L <package-name>" give you the installed files
[13:37] <Xplicit> ive installed kubuntu-restricted extras but kaffine doesnt see /usr/lib/win32 does that mean i can/cant play win32 codec
[13:38] <camilla> Hello all! I've installed Kubuntu and it works great.
[13:38] <camilla> But theres always a but :-)
[13:38] <The_ManU_212> awen_: thx found it, it is jvm
[13:38] <camilla> And her is mine; all the fonts looks screwed
[13:39] <crazy_bus> what is the best place to upload a image when reporting a bug to launchpad?
[13:39] <camilla> i've tryed the smooth fonts thing but it still looks wierd
[13:40] <camilla> I'm getting a headace :-)
[13:41] <awen_> Xplicit: try putting them in /usr/local/lib/codecs ?
[13:41] <michael> I have a good Internet connection kubuntu recognizes the (cable modem) connection even displays the byes sent and received, but I cant bring up a web page.  whats the deal?
[13:42] <jussi01> Is there a way to get the kmenu in a window? (ala apple's finder -> applications)
[13:43] <michael> I just built the system with a fresh install of 7.10
[13:44] <iCEifer> can anyone help me install a GTK2 theme? I already have the tar.gz for the theme but do I need to install metacity or something to install and use it?
[13:47] <jussi01> michael: using konq?
[13:56] <michael> yes
[13:56] <camilla> Hello all! I've installed Kubuntu and it works great. But theres always a but :-)And her is mine; all the fonts looks screwed. i've tryed the smooth fonts thing but it still looks wierd
[13:56] <michael> sorry for the delay, had to dress my little girl
[13:56] <michael> mamma still sleeping
[13:56] <camilla> Ok I guess we ha a little time difference
[13:57] <jussi01> michael: np. I suggest you check with firefox or someting just to check
[13:57] <camilla> I cannot find the fontrenderer
[13:59] <michael> cant, its a fresh install
[14:00] <michael> konq. is all I have
[14:00] <michael> I cant connect to konversation either
[14:00] <jussi01> michael: but you have internet access... can you sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:01] <michael> ahhh, gotcha
[14:01] <RurouniJones> if you can connect to the net but not a website (Using HTTP)  then your ISP may have a web-proxy that you need to configure
[14:04] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[14:04] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:04] <michael> I get an error stating that the firefox package has no installation canidate
[14:04] <jussi01> michael: sudo apt-get update
[14:05] <michael> no I am using the connection now with no proxy so no need of............oh crap..........
[14:05] <jussi01> michael: ?
[14:05] <michael> I didnt plug the cable in
[14:06] <michael> lol, still using it to talk to you
[14:06] <jussi01> hahahahaah
[14:07] <michael> ok.. wil attempt again with an actual 'connection'
[14:07] <jussi01> :)
[14:07] <michael> brb
[14:11] <michael__> ok
[14:11] <michael__> I may not be truly connected
[14:11] <michael__> I cant bring up an IP
[14:12] <jussi01> michael: what does it start with?
[14:12] <michael__> pc recognises a connection and somehow little bit of data
[14:12] <Gargoyle76> I need help with  wireless hardware!
[14:12] <michael__> IP?
[14:12] <michael__> all zeros
[14:13] <jussi01> michael: yeah, thats not really an ip...
[14:13] <KR-data> my computer has started doing something on my disks, how to I know what it is doing?
[14:13] <michael__> yeah I know
[14:13] <jussi01> KR-data: ctrl-esc
[14:13] <michael__> what threw me off was that I looked at the data sent and received and didnt bother to look any further
[14:14] <jussi01> hehe
[14:14] <jussi01> michael__: what sort of network hardware are we talking about?
[14:14] <michael__> what do I do from here? When I connect the cable to the pc it it knows
[14:14] <Gargoyle76> I tried installing kde4 and I lost my wilreless card...it won't show up in settings anymore
[14:15] <michael__> hold on..
[14:15] <michael__> its a gigabye board
[14:16] <michael__> I know that much
[14:16] <KR-data> jussi01, that doesn't say anything about usage of my disks
[14:16] <Gargoyle76> can anyone help?
[14:17] <Gargoyle76> guess not
[14:17] <giuseppe> sorry, is there anyone had problems with amule connection?
[14:18] <michael__> ok I will ahve to connect the intenet connection to it again for it to tell me. everything is blank right now
[14:20] <Xplicit> kaffine doesnt seam to have permisions to do anything with my dvb card, how do i fix this?
[14:28] <roy_> hi, is there a utility I can use to change the partition sizes after installation?
[14:28] <michael> ok back
[14:29] <michael> Device: mcp61  vendor: Nvidia  interface: eth0  bandwith: 100  Active: yes  Carrier Detect: supported
[14:31] <Xplicit> roy_: yes but it could damage your data and you cant change the size of a partiton in use
[14:31] <roy_> can I do it from a livecd?
[14:31] <jussi01> !info qparted | roy_
[14:31] <ubotu> roy_: Package qparted does not exist in gutsy
[14:31] <Xplicit> i think so but i dont know much so cant gaurantee it as everytime i use qtparted it behaves differently
[14:32] <jussi01> !info parted | roy_
[14:32] <ubotu> roy_: parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-5.1ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 160 kB
[14:32] <michael> Device: mcp61  vendor: Nvidia  interface: eth0  bandwith: 100  Active: yes  Carrier Detect: supported
[14:32] <roy_> I have the feisty liveCD, is it there?
[14:32] <jussi01> michael: do you have a router?
[14:32] <michael> nope
[14:32] <michael> straight from the wall
[14:32] <jussi01> michael: and you dont use pppoe to connect in windows?
[14:33] <michael> linux is all I use now
[14:34] <jussi01> michael: weird
[14:34] <michael> I do have windows on the other machine, but I cant connect there either (no drivers are loaded anyway) I want to get linux woking first
[14:35] <michael> I am trying to get my sis to switch (pc is for them)  Merry Christmas
[14:35] <jussi01> :D
[14:36] <michael> AMD x2 6000+ 500 gig HD, 2 gig ram, she better love it
[14:36] <michael> lol
[14:37] <michael> all wrapped up in a Atrix case (one my favs)
[14:37] <jussi01> michael: it should work. check your network prefs are set the same as the other working box.
[14:38] <Karti> Hi all, looking at creating an iso image of my WIndows XP disk so that I can point to it within Virtual Box. Any one give me some pointers? Many thanks
[14:38] <michael> should I put a stick IP in the settings?
[14:38] <michael> I mean static
[14:39] <jussi01> michael: you said you had another working ubuntu box - use the same settings as there.
[14:39] <michael> ok
[14:40] <michael> thanks
[14:40] <jussi01> michael: let us know how you go
[14:40] <michael> will do
[14:51] <posingaspopular> michael: it's pretty easy actually. you install vbox in ubuntu, locate the .iso file on your system and tell vbox to boot from that iso
[14:56] <bucatoamano> !paste
[14:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:01] <tomahasamoot> hello
[15:01] <jussi01> !hi | tomahasamoot
[15:01] <ubotu> tomahasamoot: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:01] <tomahasamoot> I just downloaded and played with KDE 4.0
[15:01] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: so what do you think?
[15:03] <tomahasamoot> it looks great, but it's slooooooooooooow on a Core2Quad w/ 4 G ram and a 3 disk LVM array, also doesn't do anything useful... but it looks very nice.  Like Mac OS
[15:04] <tomahasamoot> if this is the way things are going, I might as well switch to Mac OS now
[15:04] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: here it isnt that slow
[15:04] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: and they really dont try to look like mac...
[15:05] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: it was very slow, like it would take 30 to 60 seconds to ad an applet on the desktop
[15:05] <emilsedgh> wow
[15:05] <muftir> wow
[15:05] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: so there should be something wrong at there, what about cursor? it moved smooth?
[15:06] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: i think you should try to disabled dekstop effects
[15:06] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: also the applets didn't do anything at all.  expect the pager, clock, and lancher, none of the applets did anything...
[15:07] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: try to disable desktop effects please
[15:08] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: I have a Core2Quad w/ 4 GB of ram, an nVidia 8600, and a 3 disk arrary... that's not enough to run desktop effects... ?
[15:09] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: thats enough, misconfigurations in X settings and/or not present drivers for your card may cause that
[15:10] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: it's more than slowness, apps wouldn't load, I could see the processes were running, but they would never appear on the desktop
[15:10] <Daisuke_Ido> not only that, as kde4 isn't officially out, we don't support it.  try in #kde-devel
[15:10] <Daisuke_Ido> thanks SO much.
[15:10] <knights> I'm running gutsy and my root partition seems to keep filling up to max (so stuff stops working) and I have no idea why as I'm not downloading anything. Is there a log file I can check or is this is gutsy bug? I'm up to date with my packages
[15:11] <tomahasamoot> Daisuke_Ido: I'm back to KDE 3.5... I'm just letting you know what it's like
[15:11] <Tm_T> knights: does "sudo apt-get clean" help?
[15:13] <knights> What I should add is that I freed 4GB a few days ago and I've not installed or upgraded any packages or downloaded anything sine yet today I found / to be full
[15:13] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: how can I tell if my card is configured corectely?  usplash also doesn't work, ... do you think it's related?
[15:13] <knights> surely the is something under /var/log I should look at
[15:13] <knights> I don't think this is an apt problem
[15:13] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: o dont know :(
[15:14] <knights> Nobody else experienced a mysteriously filling / drive under gutsy or heard of something similiar?
[15:15] <Tm_T> knights: interesting
[15:15] <Tm_T> knights: "du -chs --max-depth=2 /"
[15:16] <knights> Tm_T: du: warning: summarising conflicts with --max-depth=2
[15:17] <Tm_T> knights: then remove S
[15:19] <tomahasamoot> is compiz installed by defalt now?  I remember seeing a reference that it is
[15:20] <knights> Tm_T: HD grinding away now..
[15:20] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: it is in Ubuntu IIRC
[15:20] <Tm_T> knights: aye, it checks your disk usage
[15:20] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: what's Ubuntu IIRC?
[15:20] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: Ubuntu If I Recall Correctly
[15:21] <Xplicit> ive been having problems getting kaffiene to work with dvb earlier it wouldnt work atall now it will only pick up 1 multiplex, is this a kaffeine limitation or a config problem?
[15:21] <Tm_T> Xplicit: latter
[15:21] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: but it's not in Kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, right?
[15:21] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: no it's not in Kubuntu, I believe
[15:21] <Xplicit> any ideas for fixing this? its a clean 7.10 install + all codec
[15:23] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: still to buggy?
[15:23] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: no idea, I don't use it
[15:23] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: thanks
[15:24] <ubuntu> Hello all
[15:24] <Sebien> Is there any way to install KUbuntu without formating the / partition?
[15:24] <Sebien> I have only one partition for root and home, and I don't want to erase my personal data
[15:25] <Xplicit> from?
[15:25] <Sebien> the installer still wants me to format my / partition!
[15:25] <Sebien> Is there any way to bypass this?
[15:25] <Xplicit> Sebien: yes what are you installing from?
[15:25] <Sebien> I was using KUbuntu before
[15:25] <Sebien> I moved all the folders in / to /OLD
[15:26] <Sebien> so the disk is clean for the installation
[15:26] <Sebien> I selected manual partitionning
[15:26] <Xplicit> im not sure then, the alternate install cd may work
[15:27] <Sebien> the first drive assigned to /windows, and the second to /, none of them are forma...
[15:27] <Sebien> ...ah
[15:27] <Sebien> I don't have a big internet connexion
[15:27] <Sebien> it will take time
[15:27] <Sebien> to download
[15:27] <Sebien> there is no command line switch to remove that error
[15:27] <Sebien> or change the error to just a warning
[15:28] <Sebien> It really should just be a warning!
[15:28] <Sebien> or any command-line install procedure?
[15:30] <Xplicit> possibly but i dont know much, ive found that the alternate install disk gave me all the stuff i had to work hard to do after install by default but i dont know if its included in the live cd
[15:31] <W8TAH> morning everyone -- fighting a wee problem here -- when i boot my gusty laptop, the splash screen wont come up -- if i turn off the quiet option in grub, i can see all the various kernel messages etc, but with it on the kubuntu splash doenst show -- id like to solve this
[15:31] <W8TAH> any input is welcome
[15:32] <knights> Tm_T: Right, I know what the problem is- all my disk space is being ate by 'tracker' as
[15:32] <knights> 35G     /home/nigmac/.cache/tracker
[15:32] <knights> I'm actually running GNOME gutsy right now
[15:32] <knights> Have I just got to turn tracker off or can it be fixed?
[15:33] <tomahasamoot> I've got a Logitech cordless desktop wave, and mouse with a lot of buttons.  Many of them do work, such as the play/pause, stop, next, and previous track buttons.  Also the calculator button brings up SpeedCrunch.  All of this is very nice, and better then I thought it might be :-)
[15:33] <ardchoille> W8TAH: This may be a dumb question, but do you have the word "splash" in your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[15:33] <tomahasamoot> However, I can't seem to assign the rest of the extra buttons
[15:33] <W8TAH> lemme check but i believe so ardchoille
[15:34] <Sebien> Ok, I won't reinstall KUbuntu, then. Does anyone heard about problems accessing disks on KUbuntu? I upgraded to the latest version and now I can't mount any external harddrive, nor the windows partition! Is there a was to fix that without reinstalling KUbuntu?
[15:34] <W8TAH> ardchoille: it is currently not - -but i believe that in the past it was
[15:34] <W8TAH> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3ce4e26c-7927-4195-86d
[15:34] <W8TAH> c-10f498257f9b ro
[15:35] <W8TAH> thats my current kernel line
[15:35] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Try adding the word "splash" in there right after "quiet" and see what that does.
[15:35] <W8TAH> ok
[15:35] <ardchoille> W8TAH: ok, add splash right after ro
[15:35] <tomahasamoot> Sebien: I had some trouble durning install, but I was able to fix it by adding the windows to fstab
[15:35] <W8TAH> ok
[15:36] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: I've had nothing but trouble w/ splash, you might not want to do that
[15:36] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: it's never worked, not once
[15:36] <W8TAH> ardchoille: be right back
[15:37] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: I've never had trouble with splash.
[15:38] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: better to hit e in the grub screen, try it once, then when it doesn't work, you won't have to change anything back
[15:38] <jaguila> hola???
[15:38] <jaguila> alguien español????
[15:38] <ardchoille> !es | jaguila
[15:38] <ubotu> jaguila: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:39] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: Actually, I've been running and supporting ubuntu for years and this is the first time I've heard of anyone having trouble with splash
[15:40] <W8TAH> ardchoille: no splash - same behavior as before
[15:40] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: if you can tell me what would make it work... ?
[15:40] <W8TAH> black screen from teh time i exit grub (where it says starting up) till KDM Starts
[15:40] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Did you install video drivers?
[15:40] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: I RTFM'd and it didn't fix it, it also sounded like a very common problem
[15:41] <W8TAH> ardchoille: i dont undestnad - X works fine
[15:41] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's the same problem I have, splash is a load of crap, it doesn't work, don't use it
[15:41] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: This is the first I've heard about it. But, thank you for the "e" at grub menu advice :)
[15:42] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: We can do without that type thing here.
[15:42] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: its worked fine for me untill i did the upgrade to gusty
[15:42] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: you're welcome :-)
[15:42] <W8TAH> which is why it should work
[15:42] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: 64 bit?
[15:42] <W8TAH> nope
[15:42] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Well, I've never done an upgrade
[15:43] <W8TAH> ardchoille: its not a huge thing -- it works without it -- ppl just look at me a bit odd with all the kernel messges scrolling - -and i dont like to just see a blank screen
[15:44] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I've got some instructions that might work, if you want to try them...
[15:44] <W8TAH> sure
[15:44] <ardchoille> W8TAH: I agree
[15:44] <knulfine> !de
[15:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:44] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sudo hwinfo > modes.txt
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sorry
[15:45] <ainxthea> 46544
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's sudo hwinfo --framebuffer > modes.txt
[15:46] <W8TAH> ok-- got a whole list of them
[15:46] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: so you already tried this?
[15:46] <W8TAH> no
[15:46] <W8TAH> just ran it as u told me to
[15:47] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: now less modes.txt
[15:47] <W8TAH> done
[15:47] <root____> scuse me .. who is a spanish kubuntu channel
[15:47] <ardchoille> !es | root____
[15:47] <ubotu> root____: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:47] <Tm_T> oh, root in irc :(
[15:48] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: i see a whole list of options
[15:48] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: it'll tell pick a mode, Mode 0x0318: 1024x768 (+4096), 24 bits
[15:49] <W8TAH> yes -- i see this -- im on a laptop so my preferred mode is 0x344 --1400x1050 32 bit
[15:49] <tomahasamoot> for example if you want this mode you'll put vga=0x0318 in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[15:49] <W8TAH> cool
[15:49] <W8TAH> ok
[15:49] <W8TAH> one sec lemme do this
[15:50] <root____> holas
[15:50] <jpatrick> root____: the other channel mate ;=
[15:51] <W8TAH> ok tomahasamoot done
[15:51] <W8TAH> whats next
[15:51] <tomahasamoot> now sudo update-grub
[15:51] <W8TAH> AHHHHH -- i see a problem
[15:51] <W8TAH> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[15:52] <W8TAH> it appears that the splash image is completely missing
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's interesting, does it tell you a path?
[15:53] <W8TAH> no
[15:53] <lobosque> how do I enter in a directory with space in the name trough shell?
[15:53] <ardchoille> W8TAH: That would be one reason why the "splash" in the kernel line doesn't work :)
[15:53] <W8TAH> very true --
[15:53] <W8TAH> how do i instll the splash image
[15:53] <Jucato> lobosque: either press Tab to autocomplete the directory name or use \ before the space
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I think those are in a package
[15:53] <Jucato> lobosque: like "cd My\ Directory"
[15:53] <W8TAH> ok
[15:53] <lobosque> thanks buddy
[15:53] <W8TAH> brb - 1 sec
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: lets look
[15:54] <Tm_T> mmmmgh
[15:54] <ardchoille> !splash | W8TAH not sure, but there may be some info here
[15:54] <ubotu> W8TAH not sure, but there may be some info here: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[15:55] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Ignore that, it isn't for kubuntu
[15:55] <Jucato> !usplash
[15:55] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:55] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thanks!
[15:56] <ardchoille> W8TAH: ^^
[15:56] <W8TAH> back
[15:56] <W8TAH> thanks
[15:56] <W8TAH> kewl
[15:56] <W8TAH> AWESOME
[15:58] <W8TAH> rebooting to try -
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[16:01] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:02] <W8TAH> back -- it didnt change anything
[16:03] <W8TAH> oh well
[16:03] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yeah, this is a tough nut to crack
[16:03] <W8TAH> well - like i said - -not a big issue
[16:04] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you could try a lowwer res., but then, I'm guessing you already have
[16:04] <W8TAH> no-- that i havent
[16:04] <W8TAH> i'll try that
[16:04] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: let me know if it works
[16:05] <W8TAH> will do
[16:05] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:05] <oakxx> ive been having a tuff time with firefox
[16:05] <oakxx> swiftweasel wont work either
[16:06] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: what was that update routine i had to do
[16:06] <W8TAH> update grub or some such thing
[16:09] <maki__> hi
[16:09] <maki__> whats kubuntu default style?
[16:10] <jpatrick> maki__: plastik
[16:10] <maki__> the windeco is crystalsvg?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> maki__: check in system settings /appearance
[16:10] <maki__> i dont have kubuntu :)
[16:11] <Jucato> Windeco is Crystal (Crystal SVG is an icon theme)
[16:11] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yes sudo update-grub
[16:11] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:11] <Jucato> jpatrick: kubuntu's default widget style? polyester
[16:12] <jpatrick> kwin-style-crsystal was packaged by me \o/
[16:12] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: it appears when i do that -- it takes out the VGA Line
[16:12] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[16:12] <W8TAH> ohhhh -- ok
[16:12] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yes, it'll do that
[16:12] <jpatrick> Jucato: plastik <3
[16:12] <Jucato> doesn't change the fact that Kubuntu's default is polyester :P
[16:13] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: there's a place to put it in the file, let me get you the ref. line
[16:13] <W8TAH> ok
[16:14] <emilsedgh> Jucato: kubuntu's default appearance is really ugly, i dont like it
[16:14] <maki__> and the color scheme?
[16:14] <Jucato> maki__: customized for Kubuntu
[16:14] <tomahasamoot> ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the## alternatives## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5# defoptions=quiet splash
[16:15] <maki__> Jucato: its on kde-look
[16:15] <Jucato> dunno
[16:15] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you edit, but don't uncomment the last line
[16:15] <Jucato> what I mean is that the color scheme wasn't based on an existing scheme, but was made for Kubuntu
[16:15] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: ok
[16:15] <maki__> i know
[16:16] <Jucato> it's not that hard to export and put up in kde-look
[16:16] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: then after you update grub, do a sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:17] <W8TAH> how do i translate the vga= number
[16:17] <W8TAH> from the modes.txt?
[16:18] <htmljunkie>  k i am new on lin and run Kubuntu and I want to setup samba in a gui front end?
[16:18] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I was told that you can use as is, 0x0???, but then I'm still having trouble, so I could be wrong
[16:18] <jpatrick> !smb4k | htmljunkie
[16:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb4k - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:18] <W8TAH> ok
[16:18] <jpatrick> !info smb4k
[16:18] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[16:18] <jpatrick> ^ htmljunkie
[16:19] <htmljunkie> hello
[16:19] <BluesKaj> htmljunkie:  smb4k is a nice samba browser with gui
[16:19] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: if you've got any magic pix dust, now's the time to use it
[16:19] <tomahasamoot> ;-)
[16:19] <htmljunkie> k
[16:19] <W8TAH> LOL
[16:19] <W8TAH> sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:19] <W8TAH> arrrggg
[16:19] <W8TAH> sorry
[16:20] <htmljunkie> where do i go to install smb4k
[16:20] <htmljunkie> can i install it in add/remove apps?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> htmworks well altho , once you have the network configged , Konqueror can do it easily and more simply by just using samba in it's addressbar
[16:20] <htmljunkie> k
[16:20] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: what went wrong?
[16:20] <W8TAH> typed in the wrong window
[16:20] <jpatrick> htmljunkie: yep, just make sure you have the universe repo enabled
[16:21] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: oh
[16:21] <BluesKaj> htmljunkie:  if your sources are all enabled smb4k will be in one of the package managers like adept
[16:21] <htmljunkie> k
[16:21] <nerian> Hi. I'm trying to install Compiz in Kubuntun gutsy
[16:22] <jpatrick> nerian: hola
[16:22] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: before I forget, there's a very simple, /etc/usplash.conf file that has the res. in it
[16:23] <nerian> jpatrick: Hola
[16:23] <nerian> jpatrick: he instalado esto  aptitude install compiz compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:23] <jpatrick> !es | nerian
[16:23] <ubotu> nerian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:24] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you should edit that then do the update, sorry, about that :-(
[16:25] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, trying this pidgin thing for the first time , seems to work ok on irc but not as an IM ...anyone using google talk ...my grand daughter is trying to send me messages , but my replies aren't getting thru
[16:26] <jameswf-home> I use pidgin for aim, yahoo, gogle talk, myspace and jabber
[16:26] <jameswf-home> works fine
[16:27] <jameswf-home> if it installed you want to try  #pidgin for troubleshooting and faq
[16:27] <BluesKaj> fine jameswf-home , I'm getting this error message delivery failed
[16:27] <BluesKaj> failed:  (Code 400)
[16:28] <HS^> Any idea how to install OBDC qt4 support in kubuntu? fedora has packages for it.. but i cant find them for ubuntu.
[16:28] <HS^> (here is fedora package: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/repoview/qt4-odbc.html )
[16:28] <e> pls help. how do i connect to the internet using a CDMA moderm. it uses a windows standard 33600 modem driver under winxp.any linux  driver that could work
[16:28] <jameswf-home> HS^: have you tried alien works 60% of th time
[16:29] <HS^> jameswf-home,  yes i tried.
[16:29] <jameswf-home> stupid 40% :)
[16:29] <HS^> QOBDC is not recognised after i installed it :\
[16:29] <HS^> yea
[16:30] <Joelito> Hi all, what's the name of the package that helps kubuntu keep update (security, patches, etc)
[16:30] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[16:31] <BluesKaj> then it's adept notifier/updater
[16:31] <Joelito> adept
[16:31] <jameswf-home> Joelito: I think adept has a daemon
[16:32] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: are you still here?
[16:33] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: no luck
[16:33] <e> pls help. how do i connect to the internet using a CDMA modem. it uses a windows standard 33600 modem driver under winxp.any linux driver that could work
[16:34] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: let me go back and look again
[16:34] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: dont worry about it - -im running short of time
[16:36] <maki__> what's the name of kubuntu's default wallpaper?
[16:36] <jussi01> e: what kind of cdma modem?
[16:37] <sean> I'm having trouble installing a geforcefx graphics driver, it says gedit has not been able to detect the character coding
[16:38] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: well, write this down for later: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622018
[16:38] <W8TAH> ok -- thanks
[16:40] <maki__> can anyone upload kubuntu's default color scheme on kde-look?
[16:45] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: change of plans here -- im gonna tear into it a bit more
[17:09] <ubuntu_> salut
[17:09] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu_
[17:09] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:14] <user_> hi all... trying to compile kernel, hit this brick wall: "*** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop."  What do i do?
[17:14] <r12saa> Hi all. I have problem with my Amarok, it doesn't play .mp3??? Why ??
[17:15] <Jeroi> it should automatically dl mp3 support
[17:15] <Jeroi> when you try to play mp3
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> for mp3 you need to install some extra packages.  - I thouht it auto installed tehm also.. but seen it not work in some caese
[17:15] <user_> blood_killer: 1. please stop changing your name 2. download restricted extras for mp3 codecs
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:15] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[17:15] <DreadKnight> anyone else having tiny font in kde4?
[17:16] <Jeroi> !mp3
[17:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:17] <user_> dr_willis: do you know how to fix this error whilst recompiling kernel: ""*** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop."" ???
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> user_ no idea. I aint had to mess with the kernel in years. You did check the kernel guide?
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[17:21] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[17:21] <TuxMan> hello!
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> hi
[17:22] <TuxMan> so...
[17:23] <TuxMan> I am torrent downloading the .iso for Kubuntu 8.04!
[17:23] <TuxMan> :-)
[17:23] <TuxMan> I have been so happy with Kubuntu that I want to go into graphics development for 8.04
[17:23] <TuxMan> :-)
[17:26] <Schuenemann> How to unmount my DVD? I'm getting this error message: Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL
[17:28] <telfordmedia> qanyone use linux mce
[17:34] <rothchild> evenin' all
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> hi
[17:34] <poison--> <telfordmedia i did, once
[17:36] <rothchild> hey Dr_Willis did you get your 'skyperophone' working?
[17:36] <TuxMan> Wow. Kubuntu 8.04 is really popular.  Even KTorrent is slow downloading the .iso!