[00:00] <abdoupirat> i writ this line at the and
[00:00] <abdoupirat>  /dev/sda1 /media/Vista ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:01] <abdoupirat> and
[00:01] <abdoupirat> i didn't writ too
[00:01] <abdoupirat> gr_willis
[00:02] <abdoupirat>  /dev/sda1 /media/Vista ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:02] <abdoupirat> this
[00:02] <dr_willis> I have no idea what you mean. after you make the changes.. you use ctrl-o to save the changes in nano.
[00:02] <abdoupirat> at vista
[00:02] <dr_willis> if you look at the fstab file now. it should haffe that line at the end
[00:02] <abdoupirat> i let it vista or i writ name of my partion ex: SAT
[00:03] <dr_willis> thats just the mount point.   You must make the directory it is mounting to.
[00:03] <dr_willis> if you want to mount it to 'SAT' then change 'Vista' to 'SAT' and use the following command to make the mountpoint
[00:04] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/SAT
[00:04] <dr_willis> the fstab entry would look like --------------->       /dev/sda1 /media/SAT ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:04] <abdoupirat> but SAT it's mount i see it when i enter at media/SAT
[00:05] <dr_willis> Thast the name of the directory the drive will appear at.. ie: its MountPoint
[00:09] <abdoupirat> dr_willis
[00:09] <abdoupirat> for ex:
[00:09] <abdoupirat> how can i know the name of partion sda1
[00:09] <dr_willis> You make it up.
[00:10] <abdoupirat> in order i can know SAT
[00:10] <dr_willis> it dosent have a 'name'
[00:10] <dr_willis> You mount a drive to a directory, you can name that directory anything you want.
[00:10] <abdoupirat> ok
[00:10] <dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/Make_Me_Up
[00:10] <abdoupirat> so
[00:10] <dr_willis>  /dev/sda1 /media/Make_Me_Up  ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:11] <abdoupirat> i have on ntfs sda1 sda5 and sda6
[00:11] <dr_willis> the Imporntant thing to rember is that the mount point MUST EXIST BEFOR YOU MOUNT TO IT.
[00:11] <abdoupirat> what i have too change in this line
[00:11] <abdoupirat>  /dev/sda1 /media/SAT ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:11] <dr_willis> You make a seperate entry in fstab for each of those drives
[00:11] <dr_willis> changeing sda1 to be sda5 and sda6
[00:12] <dr_willis> and giveing them different MountPoints
[00:12] <dr_willis> you make each mountpoint with the  '  sudo mkdir /media/Make_Me_Up     ' type command
[00:13] <abdoupirat> but SAT i let it like here
[00:13] <abdoupirat>  /dev/sda1 /media/SAT ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:14] <dr_willis>  /dev/sda5 /media/SOMEOTHERNAME  ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:14] <dr_willis>  /dev/sda6 /media/YETOTHERNAME  ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000 0 0
[00:14] <dr_willis> 3 differnet lines.. edited as you like. for the mountpoint
[00:15] <abdoupirat> ok i will try it
[00:15] <abdoupirat> wait me
[00:15] <dr_willis> Telling people to 'wait' on irc.. is err.. pointless..
[00:15] <dr_willis> :)
[00:16] <abdoupirat> willis
[00:16] <dr_willis> just saying someones nick onirc.. is also a bit pointless.. :)
[00:16] <abdoupirat> i cant delet file too at sda5 and sda 6
[00:16] <dr_willis> i have no idea what you just said...
[00:17] <dr_willis> if you want full access for those drives.. you MUST give them fstab entries like you did for the first.
[00:17] <abdoupirat> listin to me
[00:17] <dr_willis> Note that these changes will not take effect untill you remount the drives/reboot.
[00:18] <abdoupirat> the partition are mount i can view file at SAT for ex
[00:18] <abdoupirat> but i never can delet files
[00:18] <dr_willis> You must remount the drives after making these changes.
[00:18] <dr_willis> just editing the fstab file will NOT make it 'start working'
[00:19] <dr_willis> easy way to test.. is make the fstab file changes, then reboot.
[00:19] <abdoupirat> ok so i must logout after change??
[00:20] <dr_willis> loging out is Not rebooting...
[00:20] <abdoupirat> so must reboot
[00:20] <dr_willis> restarting the machine is rebooting...
[00:20] <abdoupirat> ?
[00:20] <abdoupirat> ok
[00:20] <abdoupirat> so wait i'll be back kere
[00:20] <dr_willis> I have some errands to run..i  will be in and out of here all day
[00:21] <dr_willis> Mountinh of linux drives is documented all over the web...
[00:21] <dr_willis> Its a topic worth learning.
[00:27] <john_> now i have songbird i can't subcribe
[00:27] <john_> to pod cast
[00:32] <dr_willis> try mirro ?
[00:34] <rodofolfo23> hola
[00:34] <rodofolfo23> algun español
[00:34] <rodofolfo23> por aqui ?
[00:34] <dr_willis> !es
[00:35] <rodofolfo23> pero yo no se que canales son
[00:35] <ubuntu> how do i know my ubuntu version ?
[00:35] <ubuntu> how do i find out what is my ubuntu version ?
[00:39] <MrKennie> FreshPrince: smkajt lsb_release -a
[00:39] <MrKennie> oops
[00:40] <MrKennie> smkajt lsb_release -a
[00:43] <soulsurfer> does anyone use the HP psc 2100 or something similar for scanning in kubuntu?
[00:43] <soulsurfer> it set up printing automatically but for some reason when i try to scan it says Error during device I/O or something
[00:47] <Pollywog> I need to recompile kmail with debugging enabled but I noticed that debian/rules format has changed.  Is there a place where I might find out how to configure a package before compiling debs?
[00:48] <Pollywog> deb-src is what I am using
[00:49] <Pollywog> I guess I need to ask in the forums
[00:50] <MrKennie> Pollywog: you could try #ubuntu-dev assuming it exists.
[00:50] <Pollywog> MrKennie: ty
[01:05] <besitzer> was das
[01:20] <dr_willis> well i guess   <abdoupirat>    got his stuff fixed.. or else he blew up his pc...
[01:23] <MrKennie> =)
[01:25]  * dr_willis was running a little out of patience. :)
[01:25] <dr_willis> 'you need to reboot' --> good way to get a break/change nicks. :)
[01:27] <dr_willis> its amazing that under windows.. i transfer 5gb from the windows box to the linux box.. and the window box gets so laggy - i can barely even type on it.. cant watch videos or anything else...  but on a linux->linux transfer.. the linux box dosent  bog down at all.. and its got 1/2 the CPU power...
[01:28] <albuntu> dr_willis : true. it happens to me too
[01:28] <dr_willis> and windows will say it will take '5 hrs 12 min' to transfer... then the next second go down to 4min....
[01:29] <dr_willis> I really have to wonder about some of these logical/gui/design things in vista.. the 'more info' button in the copy dialog just shoes 3 more lines of info.. woopie.. any reasin not to just show it by default? Not like its overwhelming people with info
[01:30] <dr_willis> heh it went from 40 min.. to done.. that time in less then 4 min
[01:33] <albuntu> dr_willis : the most stupid thing is that when it is a small file like 50mb it says 30 sec but if the other file that will be copied is like 4 gb it will say 40 min. lol
[01:34] <dr_willis> Yep.. which is worse... 'no information' or 'wrong information'
[01:34] <dr_willis> i have noticed kde and gnome both improveing this 'copy dialog' stuff..
[01:35] <dbrug> hey. i just upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 beta, which worked quite nice. but now i experience some frequent flickering
[01:35] <dr_willis> I recall beOS doing it VERY well.. if you did a lot of copies it would que them up..  not trhrash the hard drive trying to do them all at once.
[01:36] <albuntu> dbrug : try checking hardware drivers
[01:37] <albuntu> dbrug : maybe its a graphic card problem
[01:37] <dbrug> albuntu: i have a builtin intel 915gm.
[01:38] <albuntu> dbrug : type jockey-kde in terminal and see if your restricted drivers are active
[01:39] <dbrug> albuntu: ok thanks
[01:40] <dr_willis> i dident think intel cards used restricted drivers
[01:41] <dr_willis> xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[01:41] <albuntu> dbrug : look at dr_willis post
[01:42] <dr_willis> I do see a LOT of hits on people with problems with the intel drivers.
[01:42] <dbrug> yup i have that driver and it worked before. maybe i need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[01:43] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5506057
[01:43] <dr_willis> has some good looking info on the topic
[01:43] <albuntu> dr_willis : my girlfriend has a same card but didnt had problems
[01:43] <dr_willis> I wond erif the issue often is not the  pc  makers little 'changes' to the cards.chipset/stuff
[01:44] <dbrug> thanks. ill just try a restart after the xorg reconfigure. brb
[01:49] <dbrug> okay the flickering seems not to be x related as it does not occur prior to login, i.e. while in KDM
[01:49] <dbrug> so maybe it is an issie with the new kwin?
[01:58] <dbrug> yup it is, it does not occur in a parallel icewm session
[02:02] <nightdragon> FAIL!
[02:03] <nacitar> I installed kubuntu 8.04 x64, and now when I get to the boot screen (with the progress bar and logo) it will most of the time just sit there looping the progress bar until finally dropping me to a busybox prompt without any error message
[02:04] <nacitar> if I keep trying to boot several times, eventually it boots up real quickly, just fine.
[02:04] <nacitar> Can't figure out why it boots sometimes and not others?
[02:04] <nacitar> -?
[02:06] <SkEmO> which software can i use to make a video slideshow using pix?
[02:14] <unitypunk_> hey all :)
[02:17] <unitypunk_> aparntly i cannot compile executables in C... any ideas why?
[02:18] <Schuenemann> unitypunk_, do you have gcc?
[02:18] <unitypunk_> yeah
[02:18] <Schuenemann> package build-essential
[02:18] <unitypunk_> but im reading somewhere that you might need g++ too.
[02:18] <Schuenemann> g++ is for c++
[02:19] <unitypunk_> C not equal to C++?
[02:19] <Schuenemann> nope, they're different languages
[02:19] <unitypunk_> ah well.
[02:19] <jaakkome> hey, do people use Akregator to subscribe podcasts?
[02:19] <unitypunk_> i have that too now..
[02:19] <unitypunk_> :-p;
[02:20] <Schuenemann> unitypunk_, what error do you get?
[02:20] <unitypunk_> getting build essential.
[02:20] <unitypunk_> hold on
[02:20] <unitypunk_> build essentials fixxed it.
[02:21] <Schuenemann> I guess you didn't have the compiler, then
[02:21] <unitypunk_> got a new error..
[02:21] <unitypunk_> can not find setupterm or tgtent
[02:21] <unitypunk_> *tgetent
[02:22] <Schuenemann> what are you trying to compile?
[02:22] <unitypunk_> bitchx
[02:23] <Schuenemann> oh well, I have to idea if something about bitchx is missing or your gcc is missing something
[02:24] <unitypunk_> gcc is there
[02:25] <Schuenemann> perhaps those are libraries you don't have? bitchx page should have a page explaining the compilation process, I believe
[02:26] <unitypunk_> just says do ./configure
[02:27] <unitypunk_> from dir
[02:28] <vilhelm> Hello I have a Geforce 6800 GT and i downloaded the newest driver version 177.80 for it and after I installed it the x-server crashed and gave me somekind of error of bad modul
[02:29] <doc_> hi
[02:33] <vilhelm> Hello
[02:33] <DarkTan> is there anyway to install Kubuntu to a blank drive while under linux?
[02:33] <DarkTan> i mean while under windows
[02:33] <unitypunk_> wouldnt wubi do that?
[02:33] <DarkTan> wubi?
[02:34] <unitypunk_> just install to blank drive
[02:34] <unitypunk_> !wubi
[02:34] <unitypunk_> i lied.
[02:34] <DarkTan> i can't install from Cd for some reason know only to God
[02:34] <unitypunk_> not quite what you need
[02:34] <unitypunk_> why cant ya?
[02:34] <DarkTan> no idea
[02:35] <DarkTan> for some reaspon it hange and says the CD is currupt, bu i take take the CD, the CD drive and the IDE cable, but them all in a different computer and it install just fine
[02:35] <DarkTan> problem is, other computer has IDE drives, the computer i want to put linux on has SCSI drives
[02:36]  * DarkTan sighs
[02:37] <DarkTan> and now windows ate my blank hard drive....
[02:37] <nejode> DarkTan: I had that same problem with a SIS chipset motherboeard
[02:39] <vilhelm> Anyone knows why my x-server crashes after installing Geforce Driver 177.80
[02:40] <DarkTan> well if it helps any, it's an IBM Netfinity 5600 server
[02:44] <unitypunk_> can anyone help me with compiz ?
[02:44] <DarkTan> if i dont figure it out in the next 15 minutes, i'm giving up and watching anime
[02:44] <unitypunk_> net install dark tan>
[02:44] <unitypunk_> ?
[02:45] <DarkTan> now, but how does one do that?
[02:45] <DarkTan> no*
[02:45] <unitypunk_> uhh
[02:45] <unitypunk_> usually the distro makes a net install disk...
[02:45] <nejode> DarkTan: in an IBM eSERVER I had to use the "pnpbios=off" kernel param
[02:45] <unitypunk_> downloads everything fromt he internet..
[02:46] <unitypunk_> tiny cd image usualy
[02:46] <DarkTan> how do you set that?
[02:46] <DarkTan> nejode*
[02:46] <DarkTan> unitypunk_, i'll keep that in mind
[02:47] <nejode> DarkTan: press F6 when you get the welcome screen and add the param to the end of the kernel boot line
[02:47] <DarkTan> hmmmm
[02:47]  * DarkTan tries that
[02:48] <nejode> DarkTan: but it depends on what error you get
[02:48] <root> hola
[02:48] <nejode> ...sometimes "all_generic_ide" works
[02:48] <Guest45293> hola
[02:49] <Guest45293> kjnkjkb
[02:50] <Guest45293> hello?
[02:50] <unitypunk_> hi
[02:50] <DarkTan> do i add it to the very end or space before it?
[02:50] <Guest45293> que poca gente hay aqui no?
[02:55] <masbadar> hi, all
[02:55] <DarkTan> ok, lets see what happens
[02:59] <emerson> Guest45293: hello how you doing ?
[03:00] <DarkTan> bah, same error
[03:02] <nejode> DarkTan: well, sometimes it's a trial and error job...
[03:03] <DarkTan> was i supposed to put it before or after the  "--"
[03:03] <nejode> DarkTan: usually, when it's a bad disk/cd error it has to do with the chipset modules loading incorrectly
[03:04] <nejode> ...if it's an Intel chipset, sometime you got to load "piix" module
[03:05] <nejode> ... if 's a Marvel ide controller...it's a pain
[03:05] <DarkTan> think the net install would work?
[03:06] <nejode> ... if it's SIS, you have to load manually "ide_generic", "ide_disk" and "ide_cd" (depends on the chipset)
[03:07] <nejode> DarkTan: you could try the mini cd, it weighs less than 10 mb
[03:07] <DarkTan> i think i will do so
[03:08] <DarkTan> also, is there anyway to install under windows?
[03:09] <nejode> if you want a full install...I doubt it
[03:09] <faileas> DarkTan: install what?
[03:09] <nejode> but you casn install fron a USB disk or from an iso image
[03:09]  * faileas thinks there's an unsupported tool for bootstrapping a kubuntu install from windows
[03:09] <faileas> part of the wubi project. i believe its called unetboot in?
[03:10] <DarkTan> install via ISO?
[03:10] <DarkTan> how's that work?
[03:10] <nejode> DarkTan let me see if I can find the link... give some minutes
[03:11] <nejode> darkTan: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Hardy-86977.shtml
[03:12] <faileas> hmm
[03:13] <DarkTan> i might try to network install
[03:13] <DarkTan> HD install only works when there is already a ubuntu install on it?
[03:17] <nejode> DarkTan, the mini-cd: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[03:18] <nejode> DarkTan: remember, you'll have to build the system from the base up!
[03:19] <DarkTan> hmmm....that sounds like i'll be living in the chat for a while
[03:24] <DarkTan> bah, no network boot and no USB boot
[03:24] <DarkTan> think i can use the mini CD to get a text OS on and then used to HDD boot?
[03:24] <DarkTan> err...install?
[03:25] <faileas> DarkTan: do you have windows on already?
[03:26] <DarkTan> yeah
[03:26] <faileas> take a look at wubi
[03:26] <DarkTan> ! wubi
[03:26] <faileas> you can get a working install on an image in windows. if you want, you can them move it over to a real partition with LVPM
[03:27] <nejode> DarkTan: the mini-cd boots you to a barebones system, from there it downloads and installs a base system (CLI)
[03:28] <nejode> ..but wubi won't do a full disk install!
[03:28] <DarkTan> what will wubi do? install to an NTFS partition?
[03:28] <faileas> wubi installs to a disk image on an NTFS partition
[03:29] <DarkTan> will it boot to linux and work normally?
[03:29] <nejode> leaving...good luck!
[03:29] <faileas> other than suspend and a few minor things, yeah
[03:29] <DarkTan> will, i will try the mini CD first, it that fails, Wubi
[03:54] <faileas> i'm looking for a piece of software to back up a whole hard drive, taking up as little space as possible, and give me a bunch of bootable DVDs
[03:54] <faileas> any ideas?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> dump piped into gzip then use dd to backup the boot secor and make an ISO from it?
[03:57] <faileas> DaSkreech: something simple ;p
[03:58] <DaSkreech> TRy bacula
[03:58] <DaSkreech> No idea if it does what you want but you want some fairly arcane stuff :)
[03:58] <faileas> DaSkreech: naw. i just want to as simply as possible back up a whole disk to DVDs, and be able to restore the system from bare metal
[03:59] <DaSkreech> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/91857-how-backup-bare-metal-restore-your-linux.html
[03:59]  * faileas might try mondo first
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Or clonezilla
[04:01] <faileas> yeah, with clonezilla i need a FTP server though?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> That's Filezilla I think
[04:02] <faileas> naw
[04:02] <faileas> i mean as a target
[04:04] <xweb> names *
[04:09] <gkffjcs> how dose the cp --link command work, since, I just did it, and it clearly didn't copy the files, but ls -l doesn't show them as links, what's up with that?
[04:31] <Don_jr_KS> I have the volume icon on my task bar turned all the way up but have no sound through my speakers, any suggestions?
[04:31] <oz_> open setting for volume
[04:32] <oz_> activ "exit"
[04:32] <oz_> and all up
[04:32] <oz_> active "master" "master mono" and "PCM"
[04:32] <oz_> ok ?
[04:33] <Don_jr_KS> not sure where volume setting is
[04:33] <Don_jr_KS> the mixer?
[04:33] <Don_jr_KS> works now
[04:34] <Don_jr_KS> thank you
[04:40] <juacom99> hi, has someone here use wine-doors
[04:46] <oz_> ok Don
[04:46] <oz_> is nothing
[04:47] <oz_> i use wine
[04:48] <oz_> bye
[05:24] <jaakkome> are there any kde upgrades coming before kubuntu 8.10 or will it launch with the current version?
[05:25] <unitypunk__> kde4>
[05:25] <unitypunk__> 8.02 is kde 3.5 8.10 has kde4
[05:25] <mu3en> can anyone tell me how to automatically quit an app on login?
[05:25] <jaakkome> no I mean the current kde4 version
[05:26] <unitypunk__> the kde4 chan might know..
[05:26] <sancho21> mu3en: Use kde autostart
[05:26] <mu3en> !autostart
[05:28] <mu3en> sancho21 how would i send that command? i'm confused aboutPID for kill
[05:28] <sancho21> killall app_name
[05:29] <mu3en> cool, thanks, i'll go try
[05:36] <mu3en> sancho21: that almost worked, how would i run that as a root command? since xsetup runs te pre login apps as root
[05:37] <unitypunk__> sudo...
[05:38] <mu3en> unitypunk__ the idea is not to have to retype, it's meant to be in the login proces (invisible to the user)
[05:39] <sancho21> I have no idea. My be you can use 'sudo kill app_name' and autoinput the password. I forgot how to auto input the password
[05:39] <mu3en> run app before login (xsetup), then quit after login
[05:39] <nightdragon_> who wants a free quote
[05:39] <nightdragon_>  <wejamin> is this a dirty chat room || <wejamin> cause im a dirty girl looking for a striking man || [Whois] wejamin is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Kyle Crawford)
[05:39] <mu3en> any ideas
[05:41] <mu3en> could it be /etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup
[05:45] <mu3en> think it is, testing
[05:48] <mu3en> it was! thanks sancho21 for the pointer
[05:48] <unitypunk__> i wish wobbly windows would work for me..
[05:49] <nalton> some help
[05:50] <mr---t-> !ask
[05:50] <sancho21> mu3en: np
[05:51] <roberto> wenas!
[05:59] <unitypunk__> how would i run ircii after installing it?
[06:00] <Tm_T> !shell | unitypunk__
[06:00] <Tm_T> use Konsole, that is
[06:00] <unitypunk__> yeah..
[06:00] <unitypunk__> what command?
[06:03] <Tm_T> unitypunk__: mmm, ircii ?
[06:03] <unitypunk__> nope
[06:03] <unitypunk__> thats what i thought lol
[06:03] <Tm_T> unitypunk__: write irc and hit tab
[06:03] <jaakkome> the command is "irc"
[06:04] <unitypunk__> thanks
[06:19] <freaky_t> how do i install flash for firefox in kubuntu?
[06:22] <freaky_t> i've installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but it still doesnt work?
[06:39] <eagles0513875> what are the default permissions for passwd cuz its both root root
[06:50] <unitypunk__> eagles0513875,  do sudo passwd
[07:04] <unitypunk__> how do i edit conf files in terminal?
[07:08] <faileas> unitypunk__: nano foo.conf
[07:09] <unitypunk__> thanks :)
[07:11] <yao_ziyuan> when will this channel be for kde4?
[07:17] <Guest28186> Is this the right place to get a bit of advice on hardware(ish) issues WRT ubuntu?
[08:01] <chakie_work> morning
[08:01] <chakie_work> is it some known fact that mouse gestures do not work in hardy/intrepid with kde 4.1.x?
[08:02] <chakie_work> they've stopped working in konqueror, opera and firefox
[08:02] <chakie_work> so something in kde steals/disables mouse gestures somehow and it makes browsing much less pleasant
[08:12] <Jucato> chakie_work: #1. mouse gestures are broken in KDE 4.1. #2 KDE doesn't control Firefox or Opera settings, so it shouldn't affect mouse gestures for those 2
[08:13] <chakie_work> Jucato: yeah, that's what makes it so strange
[08:13] <chakie_work> the #1 point i knew about, so konqueror being broken was a known fact
[08:14] <chakie_work> but after installing 4.1 on this hardy opera and firefox no longer work either
[08:14] <chakie_work> i've seen this on two systems, one hardy and one intrepid
[08:14] <Jucato> no idea then. sorry
[08:15] <chakie_work> ok, no problem
[08:16] <chakie_work> i don't really know what to do about it. should i report a bug? but for what component in that case? it's one of those far too general things that will end up cluttering up the bug database
[08:49] <yea> hiphei
[09:04]  * NightDragon is away: Gone away for now.
[09:05]  * ND-away is back.
[09:16] <amerigo> hello
[09:16] <amerigo> i don't know if it's a problem inside
[09:17] <amerigo> but i can't run KNetworkManager on Hardy
[09:17] <amerigo> some tips?
[09:19] <amerigo> network is disabilited
[09:25] <yao_ziyuan> showoff: my kde4 desktop. http://i34.tinypic.com/294nf3p.png
[09:35] <weezelding> any clue how disable tapping in asus eee pc 901? i've tried putting MaxTapTime to 0 and TapButton1 to 0. synclient says 'Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?' while it is in xorg.conf
[09:45] <unitypunk__> so what cool things can i do from ssh?
[09:45] <weezelding> tunneling, firewall by pass, port forwarding etc
[09:46] <unitypunk__> i want to have a remote winamp
[09:46] <unitypunk__> some way to play my music on any pc connected to the internet
[09:53] <weezelding> i don't think winamp supports streaming
[10:12] <bartolo> hola
[10:15] <bartolo> hola
[10:17] <student15x> hi
[10:17] <student15x> co sie gapisz :)
[10:22] <weezelding> haa, i found a solution
[10:23] <weezelding> options psmouse elantech=1 to /etc/modprobe.d/options
[10:24] <student14x> l;l;
[10:24] <student13x> ;o
[10:24] <weezelding> ok
[10:24] <student13x> gramy w cos?
[10:24] <jussi01> !pl
[10:25] <student14x> w bierki
[10:25] <jussi01> student14x: only english in here please
[10:32] <giusy> ciao a tutti
[10:34] <weezelding> giusy: 12:25:22 < jussi01> student14x: only english in here please
[10:34] <giusy> no
[10:35] <jussi01> !it
[10:35] <weezelding> what no? of course yes
[10:35] <weezelding> try #kubuntu.it if still no
[11:18] <fyl0n> hello all,
[11:18] <fyl0n> I'm using KDE 3.5.10 with ksysguard in the kicker.
[11:18] <fyl0n> i've got 2 cores avail and suddenly one of the core isn't working anymore.
[11:18] <fyl0n> ksysguard says ERROR when I check my sensors.
[11:18] <fyl0n> What can I do to make it again?
[11:18] <fyl0n> What can I check?
[11:21] <fyl0n> cat /proc/cpuinfo does say core 0 and core 1
[11:25]  * NightDragon is away: Gone away for now.
[11:26] <Saka_> hi all
[11:30] <fyl0n> nevermind I've deleted the ksysmon itself and made a new one and now it works again.
[11:30] <fyl0n> but I couldn't find out why it suddenly stopped working in the first place.
[11:38] <jarle> Has anybody got the KDE3 version of Digikam working in KDE4, or will I have to compile the KDE4 svn version of Digikam?
[11:40] <Jucato> jarle: you can use KDE 3 apps in KDE 4. and the KDE 4 version of digikam isn't released as stable yet
[11:40] <emilsedgh> jarle: that should work
[11:42] <jarle> Jucato: in KDE4 Digikam will not show any thumbnails, works fine in KDE3
[11:42] <Jucato> KDE 4 Digikam (if you mean the KDE 4 version of Digikam) is still under development
[11:43] <Jucato> or did you mean the KDE 3 Digikam isn't showing thumbnails when running in KDE 4?
[11:44] <jarle> Jucato: the last one...
[11:44] <Jucato> hm... that shouldn't happen...
[11:45] <jarle> Jucato: and if I try Album -> Open in Konqueror I get "KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP."
[11:45] <jarle> Jucato: I have both KDE3 and KDE4 installed.
[11:47] <jarle> Jucato: in KDE4 it scans all the albums at startup, and shows the albums in the list, but dos not show any images...
[11:47] <Jucato> no idea what's going on there.. sorry
[11:59] <trueg> hello
[12:00] <trueg> where can I find recent KDe trunk snapshots kubuntu packages if there are any?
[12:05] <amerigo> a silly question ... (I hope)
[12:06] <amerigo> adept adjournig propose me to install an upgrade... I accept ... it is still ask me to install
[12:06] <amerigo> kubuntu 8.04
[12:07] <amerigo> what it means?
[12:38] <biz_> Hi, I'm currently testing KDE with the new beta and I'm unable to create global keyboard shortcuts, could someone give me a hint on how to debug this one? I've added a global shortcut via SystemSettings->Advanced->InputActions
[12:40] <biz_> In there I've added a new group (which is enabled) and a new action as "Keyboard shortcut / Command...", used "konsole" as the command and Ctrl+Space as the shortcut
[12:40] <biz_> If I save this one.. no reaction at all, not even in ~/.xsession-errors, though there's some dbus foo in there just after adding it
[12:40] <Tm_T> biz_: try #kubuntu-kde4
[12:40] <biz_> Tm_T: thanks
[12:41] <Tm_T> biz_: also read topic (;)
[12:42] <amerigo> hello
[12:42] <amerigo> an HELP
[12:42] <Tm_T> !helpme | amerigo
[12:42] <amerigo> ok
[12:44] <apparle> I went to system settings in KDE4 and enabled all desktop effects, and now the systems all messed up. Whenever I login, I only see black screen and mouse pointer!!!!!!!!!!! Please help
[12:45] <jussi01> apparle: please ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:03] <breton> Привет, товарищи трудящиеся
[13:04] <jussi01> !ru | breton
[13:10] <klepto> hello, can someone tell me how I can move vt8 to a different vt? one of my apps needs ctrl+alt+f8 key combo but becuase vt8 is in use it's not working
[13:11] <gs> merhaba millet
[13:11] <gs> birşey sorabilir miyim?
[13:13] <gs> İs there any Turkish people?
[13:14] <BlueEagle> !turkey > gs
[13:18] <Eruaran> Riddell: Have you given any consideration to the invitation from one of the KDE guys from the Debian team ? ;)
[13:22] <Kyran> hey, I've got a question
[13:22] <yao_ziyuan> kde3 is actually good
[13:22] <Kyran> I'm kind of new to the whole irc support thing, so please forgive me if I break some netiquette rules here
[13:22] <yao_ziyuan> but i don't like its kicker background
[13:22] <Eruaran> kde4 is better =D
[13:22] <yao_ziyuan> it's too minimalistic
[13:22] <Kyran> but why does the new sun-java update require firefox?
[13:23] <Eruaran> it does ?
[13:23] <Kyran> sun-java-plugin requires firefox now
[13:23] <Kyran> according to adept
[13:23] <yao_ziyuan> the kicker background in kubuntu is just a gradient rectangle
[13:23] <Eruaran> that doesn't sound right
[13:23] <faileas> o0
[13:23] <yao_ziyuan> not even having a 3d feel
[13:23] <faileas> that seems wierd
[13:24] <yao_ziyuan> because a 3d object should expose at least 2 sides from any perspective
[13:24] <yao_ziyuan> while the kicker background only has 1 side toward us
[13:24] <trinacria> ciao a tutti
[13:24] <yao_ziyuan> although it's a curved side
[13:24] <Eruaran> I always have transparency on
[13:25] <yao_ziyuan> transparency has its own problem
[13:25] <yao_ziyuan> transparency is good when you minimize all windows
[13:25] <yao_ziyuan> but if you maximize a wndow, e.g. the browser,
[13:25] <yao_ziyuan> a translucent kicker would look hollowed
[13:26] <Eruaran> ?
[13:26] <yao_ziyuan> if you ever zoom in kubuntu kde3's kicker background,
[13:26] <Eruaran> why would I do that A?
[13:26] <yao_ziyuan> you will find that it borders with the desktop wallpaper at a single gray line
[13:26] <Eruaran> lol
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> a mere gray line
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> not very 3d isn't it
[13:27] <Eruaran> I don't care
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> what is 3d? the kde4 taskbar is 3d
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> because its "upper side" is visible and very realistic
[13:27] <Eruaran> I'm moving permanently to KDE4 this month so I really don't care
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> hoho
[13:28] <Eruaran> I think its time for everyone to move on, KDE has...
[13:29] <yao_ziyuan> kde3 kicker is like a curved iron foil
[13:29] <Eruaran> Kubuntu doesn't use KDE's default kicker image
[13:29] <yao_ziyuan> i know
[13:30] <yao_ziyuan> i mean kubuntu's kicker image
[13:30] <Eruaran> I prefer the default one
[13:30] <Eruaran> Its more subtle
[13:30] <yao_ziyuan> the default one sucks even more
[13:30] <Eruaran> lol
[13:30] <yao_ziyuan> the default one is a sunken curved panel
[13:30] <Eruaran> yes
[13:30] <Eruaran> I like that
[13:30] <afeijo> I can make java work on my firefox 3 :(
[13:31] <yao_ziyuan> a curved face is still a 2d thing
[13:31] <yao_ziyuan> what do they call it? manifold
[13:31] <Eruaran> its a matter of taste
[13:31] <Eruaran> I have better taste than you ;)
[13:31] <yao_ziyuan> it doesn't match with a lot good wallpapers
[13:32] <Eruaran> you have no taste in wallpapers
[13:32] <Eruaran> :P
[13:32] <yao_ziyuan> Eruaran: you have seen my wallpaper?
[13:32] <Eruaran> I don't need to
[13:32] <yao_ziyuan> http://i34.tinypic.com/294nf3p.png
[13:32] <Eruaran> lol
[13:32] <Eruaran> haha nice
[13:33] <Eruaran> youre using kde4
[13:33] <afeijo> insane
[13:34] <yao_ziyuan> yes
[13:34] <Eruaran> afeijo: I haven't used ff3 at home much yet
[13:34] <yao_ziyuan> kde3 is all nice to me except the kicker
[13:34] <afeijo> Eruaran: and ff2? its the same to that mater
[13:34] <yao_ziyuan> so i made up my mind to switch to kde4
[13:34] <Eruaran> afeijo: did you install from the repositories ?
[13:34] <afeijo> aye
[13:34] <afeijo> java 6
[13:34] <yao_ziyuan> i particularly miss kde3's polyester style + crystal kwin
[13:35] <Eruaran> yao_ziyuan: there's some really nice plasma themes on kde-look
[13:35] <yao_ziyuan> plasma themes only apply to the taskbar and plasmoids
[13:35] <afeijo> plasma themes?
[13:35] <Eruaran> yao_ziyuan: and there's widget themes as well
[13:35] <yao_ziyuan> widgets = plasmoids
[13:36] <Eruaran> yao_ziyuan: I'm referring to the main window, buttons, and things
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> o
[13:36] <afeijo> damn java, I made it work at home, but cant here at my office lol
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> that's kde4 styles
[13:36] <Eruaran> yes
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> and kwins
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> i find nothing better than the default Oxygen
[13:37] <yao_ziyuan> QtCurve isn't my type
[13:37] <Eruaran> yao_ziyuan: Oxygen is very nice
[13:37] <Eruaran> I like to change the colour scheme to Obsidian Coast
[13:43] <amerigo> I have a KUBUNtU 8.04. I want to install the print system attached to an another MACHIne XP Home. i can't find the HP driver. I've downloaded it. I have try to install but it is impossible to apt-get missed dipendecy
[13:43] <amerigo> also
[13:45] <Eruaran> Kubuntu already has HP drivers
[13:46] <jussi01> amerigo: just go to http://localhost:631 and configure from there.
[13:47] <amerigo> done .... but when i find the right driver a choose.  But nothing seems to appens after
[13:47] <amerigo> I've choose the driver ...
[13:48] <rumbis> hi
[13:49] <amerigo> another thing when i do sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart .... impossible to stop no such operation
[13:49] <rumbis> any one can explain me  litlle how work linux ? am newbie :D
[13:49] <amerigo> but start samba it's ok
[13:49] <faileas> rumbis: what specifically do you need to know? ;p
[13:50] <rumbis> just  a starting of anything in a system:)
[13:50] <olivier_> hello
[13:50] <rumbis> really now i install kubuntu
[13:50] <rumbis> heheh
[13:51] <rumbis> any site with learns linux?
[13:52] <rumbis> kanis ellinas?
[13:52] <faileas> rumbis: well i always found the best way to learn is to work out what your needs are and work from there. there's the wiki as a starting point...
[13:53] <rumbis> ok m8 nvm i will find it :)
[13:53] <rumbis> but thnx for answer
[13:57] <amerigo> jussi01: it's so strange ...i can't install net-snmp
[13:57] <rumbis> cyprus
[14:05] <nimatore> hello
[14:06] <nimatore> could someone help me out how to install a new theme i've downloaded? I'm on kubuntu 8.04 and kde 4.1.2
[14:07] <Jucato> nimatore: what kind of a theme is it? where did you get it from? (link?)
[14:07] <nimatore> a moment please??
[14:07] <bubby> i installed kubuntu yesterday..my network is up..but konqueror is showing up as unknown host
[14:08] <nimatore> it's NuoveXT2.5_KDE_Theme
[14:08] <bubby> i am not able to install any software using apt-get also..
[14:08] <bubby> but i am able to use wget
[14:08] <nimatore> the icon set for that i've already installed
[14:09] <bubby> can anyone help why apt-get is not working..It is not detecting the network connection
[14:10] <Jucato> nimatore: I can't seem to find what you're referring to. do you have a link?
[14:10] <nimatore> but couldnt find a way to install a theme. a guid is include with a theme . but for kde 4.1.2 the  kde controll manager isnt supported??
[14:10] <nimatore> a moment, please??
[14:10] <Jucato> nimatore: if the guide is saying yo use kcontrol, then it's for KDE 3 and most probably won't work in KDE 4
[14:12] <amerigo> I have a KUBUNtU 8.04. I want to install the print system attached to an another MACHIne XP Home. i can't find the HP driver. I've downloaded it. I have try to install but it is impossible to apt-get missed dependecy also
[14:12] <bubby> can anyone give a link to download firefox source..maybe i can install it using wget
[14:12] <amerigo> may be this? that i've another thing when i do sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart .... impossible to stop no such operation
[14:12] <nimatore> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=66685
[14:13] <nimatore> jucato link above
[14:13] <Jucato> nimatore: this will definitely not work on KDE 4
[14:13] <Jucato> and even the icon theme, i doubt if it's completely working even if you were able to install it
[14:14] <nimatore> ok thanks JUCATO
[14:17] <bubby> apt-get install lynx results in tE: Package lynx has no installation candidate
[14:17] <bubby> i am not able to use web browser...can anyone search and tell me what is wrong
[14:23] <trueg> how do I get Qt 4.4 in Kubuntu 8.04?
[14:43] <Jucato> trueg_away: I believe from one of the KDE 4 PPA's?
[14:44] <klepto> hi, how can I move the stuff in vt8 to a different vt?
[15:26] <Omoikane__> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[15:26] <Omoikane__> Over and over.
[15:26] <Omoikane__> any ideas?
[15:28] <sdi> hallo alle
[15:29] <sdi> weiss einer was da rein kommt dynamiche schnittstelle beim ddclient
[15:30] <TheCrusher> Hello people
[15:30] <sdi> hallo
[15:30] <grendal_prime> and others.
[15:30] <Omoikane__> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[15:31] <grendal_prime> sounds like maybe x configured incorectly.  Seems like i had a problem like that at one point.
[15:33] <Omoikane__> Is there a way to fix it?
[15:42] <csousa> Kmail deleted all my imap (cached) inbox emails !    I cannot see them neither from kmail nor from gmail. Should I have some hope about recovering them?
[15:42] <dylan_> hi all, does somebody know anything about runuser?
[15:43] <dylan_> can anyone help me with telling a /etc/init.d script to run a command as a different user?
[15:43] <dylan_> please ^^
[15:45] <amerigo> fast question: what is usually extention for driver format?
[15:51] <afeijo> anyone use egroupware? what do I add to my crontab so the schedule can email?
[15:53] <No1PeaceDragon> does anyone know how to make strigi keep indexing until done it idles every 10-20mb and I have to keep hitting start indexing
[15:53] <Omoikane__> Is there a way to fix it?
[15:54] <ubuntoil> Hi
[15:54] <ubuntoil> my wifi connection is not stable in kubuntu on my macbook pro
[15:54] <ubuntoil> but perfect in mac os x
[15:54] <ubuntoil> does anyone know about that ?? please
[15:56] <Omoikane__> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[15:58] <No1PeaceDragon> Omoikane is it going into password box as you type?
[15:58] <c0rsar0ner0> ciao
[15:58] <c0rsar0ner0> saluti a tutto il chan
[15:58] <Dr3mro> hello i have a q? plz ... is it possible to have mac os x like menu bar in kde 4 like we had in kde 3.5
[16:01] <tomihasa> i can use this #kubuntu in Konversation, but how about Finnish #striimi.net?
[16:01] <Tm_T> !fi | tomihasa
[16:03] <john> hejsan på er :)
[16:05] <No1PeaceDragon> is there a free Kubuntu Hardy for dummies anywhere? ;P
[16:05] <servidor> oi
[16:06] <No1PeaceDragon> I need it so I dont have to ask so many questions
[16:15] <Omoikane__> no1peacedragon yeah.
[16:15] <Omoikane__> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[16:22] <lokpest> anybody?
[16:22] <lokpest> here...?
[16:22] <Tm_T> never
[16:26] <lokpest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57046/
[16:26] <lokpest> makes sense for somebody?
[16:26] <lokpest> I upgraded My Dell Inspiron 6400 from Gutsy to Hardy the other day, pressing the "mediadirect"-button (that in gutsy poped up amarok) now makes all the mediabuttons funktioanlity to crash
[16:36] <lokpest> anyone?
[16:38] <zer0o>  hi guys, my ipod it's on the desktop but amarok doesnt c it. how come?
[16:48] <Mithsir> Hi! (When) will there be an OOO 3.0 package für Kubuntu? Or: How can I enable KDE file dialogs with OOO 3 on Kubuntu 8.04?
[16:59] <Anticreeps> Hey, How do i get perl on kubuntu and the IO::Socket? <--- not newb question i know
[17:02] <Anticreeps> anyone?
[17:08] <servidor> oi
[17:09] <servidor> estou entrando pela 1º vez ainda não sei como funciona
[17:20] <Anticreeps> Hey, How do i get perl on kubuntu and the IO::Socket? <--- not newb question i know
[17:28] <rickest> Anticreeps: perl is installed by default, IO::Socket is in standard perl distribution
[17:29] <White_Pelican> When I insert a CD into the drive, flac is not one of the options when I open in a new window. This has been reported as a bug since 7.04. When will it be fixed?
[17:35] <asfak> how do i change default kde icon of kicker in kde4/kubuntu intrepid ?
[17:37] <Tm_T> asfak: there's no kicker in KDE4
[17:40] <asfak> sorry kickoff
[17:40] <dani_> hello
[17:40] <White_Pelican> When I insert a CD into the drive, flac is not one of the options when I open in a new window. This has been reported as a bug since 7.04. Does anyone know when will it be fixed?
[17:41] <ScorpKing> White_Pelican: you can add that function yourself. no need to wait for a fix. look in kcontrol
[17:41] <Anticreeps> Hey, How do i get perl on kubuntu and the IO::Socket? <--- not newb question i know
[17:41] <Anticreeps> newb question i know
[17:41] <White_Pelican> please elaborate ScorpKing
[17:42] <ScorpKing> White_Pelican: ok give me a sec.
[17:42] <White_Pelican> take your time
[17:46] <rickest> Anticreeps: perl is installed by default, IO::Socket is in standard perl distribution
[17:46] <Anticreeps> oh lol thanks, im new to linux trying to get familiar with it thanks
[17:47] <rickest> Anticreeps: np, good luck!
[17:51] <ScorpKing> White_Pelican: kcontrol -> KDE Components -> File Associations -> media -> cdrom-unmounted. add an aplication there and see if it works. if not see if you can find something on google
[17:52] <White_Pelican> ok thanks
[18:00] <varanus_> which is the command to see where the sound card is mounted?
[18:14] <afeijo> egroupware anyone?
[18:15] <Tm_T> afeijo: no thanks, I'm married
[18:17] <afeijo> lol !
[18:17] <cprgmswr2> Hi
[18:32] <khaije1> anyone know why my opengl apps have been killing X whenever i close them lately?
[18:32] <khaije1> it's weird cuz it never used to do that
[18:32] <khaije1> the full screen ones are particularly problematic
[18:33] <allan__> alquem ai?
[18:33] <allan__> hellloooo
[18:33] <allan__> alguem fala comigo?
[18:35] <wt> anyone know how to configure the bii window decoration to automatically unstack the titlebars
[18:35] <wt> maybe unhide is a better description
[18:35] <wt> I had it configured in the prior version of KDE, but I can't find the option now
[18:35] <allan__> alguem do brasil?
[18:36] <allan__> alquem do brasil?
[18:36] <allan__> ou que fala portugues?
[18:36] <allan__> sou novato no linux
[18:36] <allan__> tenho duvidas
[18:39] <romhzke> hi there guys!
[18:39] <zer0o> hi
[18:39] <romhzke> tell me plz where is inittab file in 8.10 distro =)
[18:39] <romhzke> can't find it in /etc
[18:40] <giuseppe__> Hi guys, I have a problem with my kubuntu... sometimes graphic and audio go very very slow... anyone knows the problem?
[18:41] <romhzke> or how can i choose run level at startup??
[18:41] <zer0o> for italian help go to #ubuntu-it
[18:44] <giuseppe__> so... any suggestion?
[18:45] <romhzke> i dono =) guess another people is no here )
[18:45] <ScorpKing> giuseppe__: what graphics card do you have?
[18:48] <ScorpKing> giuseppe__: in konsole type - free - maybe some program overuse you cpu
[18:48] <ScorpKing> or ram even. hehe
[18:49] <wt> or do you have copositing on?
[18:50] <wt> s/copositing/compositing/
[18:50] <cprgmswr2> open office 3.0 was released today and brought the server to its knees... very very interesting
[18:50] <ScorpKing> giuseppe__:  ps -eo pcpu,pid -o comm= | sort -k1 -n -r | head -1 | awk '{ print $3 }'  in konsole will show the top process
[18:51] <giuseppe__> ScorpKing: graphic card is Intel and shared memory
[18:51] <ScorpKing> "Apologies - our website is struggling to cope with the unprecedented demand for the new release 3.0 of OpenOffice.org. The technical teams are trying to come up with a solution."
[18:51] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: they seem to be busy yes. :)
[18:52] <giuseppe__> ScorpKing: the result is firefox-bin
[18:52] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: is this a new install or did your sound break recently?
[18:52] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: no need to worry about firefox i think
[18:52] <cprgmswr2> huh
[18:53] <cprgmswr2> Oh I fixed my mp3 sound problem... I deleted the .kde folder
[18:53] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: move it rather. all mail, logs and passwords are kept in that folder
[18:53] <cprgmswr2> I know
[18:53] <cprgmswr2> I have my password pretty well mimorized
[18:54] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: my .kde folder is pretty old. i don't plan on loosing it anytime soon. ;)
[18:55] <cprgmswr2> You probably have more sensitive data too then
[18:55] <cprgmswr2> I wish I could get the network card to work on my hp laptop
[18:55] <cprgmswr2> Its the main thing that is stopping me from switching from vista to linux
[18:55] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: why is it not working?
[18:56] <cprgmswr2> I don't know
[18:56] <cprgmswr2> it doesn't seem to like the encryption
[18:56] <cprgmswr2> I live in an apt and need the encryption to protect my internet connection
[18:56] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: how do you know it's not working?
[18:56] <wt> cprgmswr2: you are talking about wireless?
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> Because when I disable encryption through my routing it works
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> yes
[18:57] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[18:57] <wt> what kind of card is it?
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> Its some card which requires a labtop
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> oops
[18:57] <wt> is it built in?
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> its a card which requires a wrapper
[18:57] <wt> ndiswrapper
[18:57] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: networkmanager and wireless encryption has been fighting for some tome now
[18:57] <wt> ?
[18:57] <cprgmswr2> oh
[18:57] <wt> I refuse to use those. They don't work well at all.
[18:58]  * ND-away is back.
[18:58] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: if it works when encryption is disabled you card is fine
[18:58] <cprgmswr2> ah okay
[18:58] <cprgmswr2> I am sure its a software related issue but its still an issue
[18:58] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: i use wifi-radar for encrypted wireless networks.
[18:58] <wt> ndiswrapper is a hack that helps support hardware vendors that don't support linux
[18:58] <wt> I'd rather support a vendor that has linux support
[18:59]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[18:59] <cprgmswr2> I thought HP was suppose to support linux
[18:59] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: they do as far as i know. networkmanager does not support encryption too well though
[19:00] <cprgmswr2> Well my hp requires a ndiswrapper as far as I know
[19:00] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[19:00] <cprgmswr2> Thats what I used to get it working
[19:01] <wt> The encryption works fine with ipw2200 on my laptop.
[19:01] <wt> I use WPA2 personal on my home net
[19:01] <cprgmswr2> its an hp pravilion dv9000
[19:01] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: it's not always such a big pain to get working. boot from the livecd and come here. i'm sure you'll get some help
[19:01] <wt> I have used WEP on some publicish nets.
[19:01] <wt> I have use WPA on some of my friends nets
[19:01] <cprgmswr2> ScorpKing: Actually it is a pain because the graphics don't work on boot up
[19:02] <ScorpKing> cprgmswr2: use the vesa driver
[19:02] <cprgmswr2> ScorpKing: if you are here tonight, I will attempt to work on it then
[19:02] <cprgmswr2> okay
[19:02] <cprgmswr2> bye for now
[19:02] <ScorpKing> ok. will be around for about two hours or so
[19:02] <wt> cprgmswr2: the hard part is getting a laptop with a well supported NIC...now that you're in this position, it's kinda hard
[19:18] <sarir> help
[19:18] <sarir> my desktop disappeared completely now
[19:19] <sarir> it is a mix of ubuntu and kubuntu
[19:19] <sarir> O_O
[19:19] <sarir> what happened?
[19:19] <sarir> yesterday everything was almost perfect
[19:19] <sarir> now i dont really now what happende
[19:19] <yad__> Hi! anyone friendly soul that could help me with screen sizes?
[19:21] <yad__> hello
[19:22] <yad__> I need help! anyone
[19:23] <ScorpKing> !ask | yad__
[19:24] <joshtheitguy> is there a specific support channel for Kubuntu 8.10?
[19:24] <yad__> ok! sorry! I run  kubuntu through my tv an the screen sizes ar all mixed upp?
[19:25] <yad__> how do i get them to run like  they should. the letters are to big and the screen size looks like 600x400 altough it says 1200X800
[19:25] <yad__> when i autodetect the screen it becomes a plug and play and then i cant change the size
[19:33] <sarir> i am really desperate
[19:33] <sarir> can somebody here help me please???????
[19:34] <Xenos> try to modify your xorg.conf directly
[19:35] <Xenos> @yad__
[19:36] <yad__> how do i get the screen to run as it should. the letters are to big and the screen size looks like 600x400 altough it says 1200X800
[19:38] <yad__> how do i do that xenos
[19:38] <ubuntoil> Hi
[19:39] <Xenos> type in your shell: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:39] <sarir> !version
[19:41] <yad__> yeah ok and where should i change
[19:42] <yad__> xenos its full och different screen sizes
[19:42] <Xenos> there should be 'Section "Screen" ' somewhere
[19:42] <Xenos> yeah and then add your screen solution
[19:43] <yad__> its there somewhere
[19:43] <ubuntoil> I have trouble with my wifi connection...unstable
[19:43] <ubuntoil> macbook pro (june 07) with kubuntu 8.04
[19:43] <Xenos> then you should be able to choose it after rebooting the x-server
[19:43] <ubuntoil> I tried the ath9k doesn't work
[19:43] <Xenos> you are using a tv you said?
[19:44] <yad__> yes a big 40 inc lcd trough dvi to hdmi
[19:44] <ubuntoil> ath5k same, http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-hal-testing/ works slitly better but...
[19:45] <Xenos> then try to change your refresh rate
[19:46] <yad__> and then a nother question, my friend says that his kubuntu looks like windows vista, with the help from a widget?
[19:46] <ubuntoil> the issue is that I can't stay connected all the time
[19:46] <Xenos> i dont know which refresh rate your tv needs
[19:46] <yad__> its a 100hz compatible
[19:46] <ubuntoil> Vista looks like $#I7
[19:47] <Xenos> which rate do you have actually?
[19:48] <yad__> its a samsung full hd and with 100 hz but now in kubuntu it says 60
[19:53] <ScorpKing> Xenos: always use kdesudo if you run gui apps ;)
[19:54] <Xenos> whats the matter?
[19:55] <ScorpKing> !kdesudo
[19:55]  * ScorpKing goes off to read that link again..
[19:57] <Xenos> oh good to know
[19:57] <ScorpKing> yeah i learned the hard way
[19:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[19:58] <Nyad> hi
[20:00] <comedit> I can't get my sound working, I have been at the alsa project and it seems my card is not listed, however it worked when I had the 32-bit version installed on this laptop, with 64-bit not
[20:00] <comedit> is there a way around ?
[20:01] <ScorpKing> comedit: what card do you have?
[20:02] <comedit> mm need to dig in to that again
[20:02] <comedit> is there a qiuick way to see
[20:02] <ScorpKing> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[20:02] <comedit> on my way
[20:03] <comedit> Codec: Realtek ALC888
[20:03] <comedit> Codec: Generic 11c1 ID 1040
[20:03] <ScorpKing> ah i've got Codec: Realtek ALC883 on this box ;)
[20:04] <ScorpKing> close
[20:04] <comedit> do you have a suggestion to get it working ?
[20:05] <ScorpKing> i'm reding through some alsa docs. give me a sec
[20:05] <ScorpKing> reading*
[20:06] <comedit> thanks scorp
[20:10] <Xenos> __yad?
[20:11] <Xenos> i sent you a query
[20:13] <ScorpKing> comedit: no luck on alsa yet. realtek seems to have drivers on their site but try this first - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550753&page=11
[20:14] <comedit> having a look thanks scorp
[20:14] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[20:17] <ScorpKing> comedit: seems like that is a intel card
[20:18] <ScorpKing> !hdaintel
[20:19] <comedit> Thanks but I have been there doesn't solve it for me
[20:19] <age1172> hi everybody
[20:19] <ScorpKing> comedit: here is the link for the realtek site - http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[20:19] <age1172> i have problem imn mounting ntfs partitions
[20:20] <age1172> any one help
[20:20] <ScorpKing> !ntfs-3g | age1172
[20:21] <age1172> age1172: it is installed but only 2 partitions are mounted the others no
[20:22] <age1172> ubottu:  it is installed but only 2 partitions are mounted the others no
[20:22] <jussi01> ubottu: is a bot
[20:23] <comedit> age1172 install smb4k works like a charm
[20:24] <ScorpKing> age1172: mount them from konsole. the filesystem might be bad then you have to fix it in windows or force mount them
[20:25] <comedit> it is a shell which helps you browse over your windows network, bookmark, mount at startup etc lots of features
[20:25] <age1172> ScorpKing: how
[20:26] <ScorpKing> age1172: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<your-ntfs-drive> /<mountpoint>
[20:29] <comedit> thanks for the realtek link scorp but realtek left the directory empty for linux ( Iwill solve itself in the future)
[20:29] <ScorpKing> comedit: can you pastebin the output of - alplay -L ?
[20:29] <ScorpKing> !paste
[20:30] <ScorpKing> sorry comedit, it's aplay -L
[20:31] <comedit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57116/
[20:32] <ScorpKing> comedit: same card as mine. you'll need to manually compile the drivers by the looks of it. follow that hdaintel link the bot gave you.
[20:33] <ScorpKing> comedit: run - alsactl -v to see what version of alsa you need to download
[20:33] <comedit> ok  I will go for it, never done something like that but I can copy paste, thanks for all the help
[20:34] <ScorpKing> comedit: if you do it now i can help if you get stuck. i've done it a few times
[20:36] <ScorpKing> comedit: before you download anything run alsamixer and check your volumes
[20:36] <comedit> well thanks I am also trying to finish a site tonight but sound is essential Would it take half an hour or so ?
[20:36] <ScorpKing> comedit: and pastebin the output of - lsmod | grep snd
[20:36] <ScorpKing> maybe you don't need to do anything ;)
[20:37] <ScorpKing> comedit: it will take about 30 minutes to install if you have to.
[20:38] <sarir> how to have the audio icon back to the panel?
[20:38] <ScorpKing> press <alt>+<f2> and run kmix
[20:38] <sarir> please?
[20:38] <sarir> thanks
[20:38] <ScorpKing> yw
[20:38] <comedit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57120/
[20:38] <ScorpKing> comedit: run alsamixer in konsole and put you volumes up
[20:39] <ScorpKing> your*
[20:40] <comedit> sorry for ignorance : how to run in konsole ....
[20:40] <ScorpKing> kmenu -> system -> konsole
[20:40] <comedit> by the way I will have to go in root mode i assume
[20:40] <ScorpKing> no
[20:40] <comedit> konsole i know
[20:41] <ScorpKing> type alsamizer
[20:41] <ScorpKing> alsamixer
[20:41] <comedit> thats' cool and retro
[20:41] <ScorpKing>  <alt>+<x> will exit it when you are done
[20:42] <comedit> does it do the same as kmix
[20:42] <ScorpKing>  <ctrl>+<d> will close konsole ;)
[20:42] <ScorpKing> comedit: not in kmix
[20:42] <comedit> no i heard you just a question
[20:43] <ScorpKing> hehe.. it should but i think it doesn't
[20:44] <comedit> only headphone and IEC9 something say 00 arrow up no effect
[20:46] <ScorpKing> so they are all up except the second one? they must show a full bar
[20:46] <comedit> so all I can put to max is on max volume
[20:47] <comedit> also the second screen with tab
[20:47] <ScorpKing> ok. put them all up to 100
[20:48] <comedit> well the box around headphone has no room to increase as well as this IEC95... checking once again
[20:48] <ScorpKing> do only those you can
[20:48] <comedit> done
[20:49] <ScorpKing> press <esc> and test your sound
[20:49] <comedit> through system settings i suppose
[20:49] <sarir> !paste
[20:50] <comedit> Scorp all silcene hear
[20:50] <ScorpKing> :(
[20:51] <comedit> nice typo hear instead of here
[20:51] <ScorpKing> all the software seems fine and the needed modules are loaded on your box.
[20:52] <ScorpKing> it is supposed to work out-of-the-box
[20:52] <ScorpKing> comedit: you want to compile the alsa drivers again?
[20:52] <comedit> well sound was working in the past when i had kubuntu-32 installed on it changed to 64 and not working anymore
[20:53] <ScorpKing> ah 64-bit
[20:53] <Arlianin> Hello!
[20:53] <BlueEagle> !hi | Arlianin
[20:53] <sarir> ScorpKing, is there something wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/57127/
[20:53] <ScorpKing> comedit: if you mentioned it i missed that.
[20:53] <comedit> thats' how I started the topic scorp
[20:54] <comedit> happens to the best
[20:54] <ScorpKing> hehe.. i saw some bugs reported on launchpad for that driver
[20:54] <comedit> i have a smaal issue i need to attend i will be back in a few minutes
[20:54] <ScorpKing> comedit: ok np
[20:55] <Arlianin> Hello, I kinda need help
[20:55] <sarir> somebody can take a look here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/57127/
[20:55] <ScorpKing> sarir: what is the problem?
[20:55] <sarir> -.-
[20:55] <Arlianin> the titlebar with the "X" button has disappeared. How can I make it work again?
[20:55] <sarir> ScorpKing, that i am all the time doing something wrong with sources
[20:55] <ScorpKing> Arlianin: you using emerald & compiz?
[20:55] <ScorpKing> sarir: what is the message you get?
[20:56] <sarir> ScorpKing, so when i make sudo apt-get update I see a lot of hit and ign..............
[20:56] <Arlianin> ScorpKing: I got Emerald Theme maker and Compiz-fusion installed O.o
[20:57] <ScorpKing> Arlianin: press <alt>+<f2> and type kwin --replace
[20:57] <favro> or alt+F2   emerald --replace
[20:57] <ScorpKing> sarir: that sounds normal
[20:57] <sarir> ScorpKing, oh so.. i didnt know it
[20:57] <sarir> ok
[20:57] <Arlianin> ScorpKing: When I press <alt>+>f2> nothing appears :S
[20:57] <Arlianin> Scorpking: isn't that Run Command?
[20:57] <ScorpKing> favro: correct. emerald does that sometimes
[20:58] <ScorpKing> Arlianin: yes
[20:58] <sarir> ScorpKing, just to know what does it exactly mean the hit and ign message?
[20:58] <rjb> hello, i have a question about using LDAP for user authentication
[20:58] <sarir> messages*
[20:58] <Arlianin> Oo
[20:58] <Arlianin> Thanks! now it works
[20:58] <Arlianin> :D
[20:58] <rjb> (on ubuntu/server)
[20:59] <Arlianin> ScorpKing: Have you used Compiz-fusion?
[20:59] <ScorpKing> sarir: it will ignore any package files with no new entries. they are already downloaded so no need to do it again
[20:59] <ScorpKing> Arlianin: yes
[20:59] <Arlianin> ScorpKing: can you help me fix it? I can't see my desktop in cube mode :S
[20:59] <favro> rjb: there is #ubuntu-server for server help :)
[20:59] <sarir> ScorpKing, and hit?
[20:59] <ScorpKing> !compiz | Arlianin
[21:00] <sarir> compiz doesnt function very well yet
[21:00] <sarir> at least for me
[21:00] <ScorpKing> sarir: it downloads a list of all new packages available that has been added to the repo's
[21:00] <chucknorris> how do I check the KDE version I am using?
[21:01] <sarir> !version
[21:01] <sarir> lol
[21:01] <ScorpKing> haha
[21:01] <jussi01> chucknorris: just open konqueror and go to help about
[21:01] <ScorpKing> chucknorris: look in theabout
[21:01] <chucknorris> ok
[21:01] <ScorpKing> heh
[21:01] <sarir> jussi01, moi
[21:01] <chucknorris> I am using default Ubuntu, no Konqueror here
[21:01] <chucknorris> or so it seems
[21:02] <chucknorris> so?
[21:02] <sarir> i dont have the audio icon anymore and cant get it back
[21:03] <jussi01> chairman: you have kde but not konqueror? o.0
[21:03] <jussi01> gah
[21:03] <jussi01> chucknorris: ^^
[21:03] <jussi01> sorry chairman
[21:04] <chucknorris> well, atleast I don't see it in the Applications list
[21:04] <ScorpKing> check for konsole. ubuntu will have terminal
[21:05] <favro> is the desktop blue or oranfe?
[21:05] <chucknorris> yes, I've got terminal
[21:05] <chucknorris> orange
[21:05] <jussi01> chucknorris: you are on ubuntu
[21:05] <ScorpKing> or pstree | grep kde ;)
[21:05] <favro> that's ubuntu - try in #ubuntu for help
[21:06] <ScorpKing> hmm.. you should give kde a try :)
[21:06] <chucknorris> man, I thought I was using KDE
[21:06] <chucknorris> Cos from my experience, Gnome was like floating pieces of islands
[21:06] <chucknorris> and KDE more like Windows
[21:07] <chucknorris> The Ubuntu I am using has a Mac-like top bar and a Windows-like bottom bar
[21:07] <chucknorris> is it Gnome?
[21:07] <ScorpKing> you can check in help -> about of terminal
[21:07] <ScorpKing> it would be gnome yes
[21:07] <chucknorris> A terminal emulator for the GNOME desktop!!!
[21:08] <ScorpKing> no about gnome button?
[21:08] <comedit> scorp I am back ... so I assume I will have to do without sound on 64-bit with my card
[21:08] <favro> !version
[21:09] <ScorpKing> comedit: for now it seems.
[21:09] <comedit> oh thanks for your help !
[21:10] <comedit> oh should have been ok
[21:10] <ScorpKing> comedit: i suggest some extensive google use ;)
[21:10] <chucknorris> You know why I was looking to find out which version of KDE I was using? Cos I wanted to make sure I already wasn't using KDE 4.1.
[21:10] <ScorpKing> comedit:  you're welcome :)
[21:10] <chucknorris> Now I can confidently start the download process
[21:11] <comedit> i did the google part before but thanks anyhow
[21:11] <ScorpKing> comedit: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=932659
[21:17] <ScorpKing> comedit: how many cards do you have in that box?
[21:18] <comedit> you mean soundcards ?
[21:19] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:20] <comedit> sorry again for ignorance how can i check (its a laptop no soundcard added by me i am the first owner)
[21:20] <comedit> so i assume one
[21:20] <ScorpKing> righto..
[21:21] <ScorpKing> it will be one
[21:25] <ScorpKing> comedit: maybe compile the driver for 64-bit when you have time
[21:25] <ScorpKing> bedtime for me. nite everyone.. hope you get your sound working comedit.
[21:26] <holycow> where is the kde trash folder stored?  ~/.kde/?
[21:26] <comedit> scorp i was
[21:26] <comedit> going to say yes in a few minutes bt good night
[21:26] <chucknorris> bye guys
[21:27] <ScorpKing> comedit: i should be here tomorrow again
[21:27] <comedit> what 's your timezone
[21:27] <ScorpKing> gmt+2
[21:27] <comedit> gmt +1 for me
[21:28] <comedit> afternoon i will check if your there
[21:28] <comedit> goodnight
[21:28] <ScorpKing> ok nite
[21:44] <dr_willis> !wine
[21:47] <sarir> hm i was not able to make run anything on wine
[21:47] <sarir> -.-
[21:51] <Mr_Pan> buonasera, ho aggiornato a kde 4.1 ma mi sembra ancora parecchio immaturo. vorrei tornare a kde 3.5.x come facico   ?
[21:51] <sarir> Mr_Pan, english :-)
[21:52] <Mr_Pan>   sarir opss sorry :D
[21:52] <Mr_Pan> hi , i need to downgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 3.5.x - how can do it   ?
[21:53] <sarir> Mr_Pan, why should you do it????
[21:53] <Arlianin> Hello, can anyone here please help me?
[21:53] <Mr_Pan> sarir, because i dont like kde 4
[21:54] <sarir> Mr_Pan, hm sorry i disagree first of all, second i dont really know how to downgrade...... :-/
[21:54] <sarir> !downgrade
[21:54] <sarir> Mr_Pan, read
[21:55] <Mr_Pan> perfect........
[21:55] <sarir> lol
[21:57] <SlimG> Anyone know of a Amarok repos for Ubuntu, with the newest beta in it?
[21:58] <Arlianin> Hello!
[21:58] <Arlianin> How do I install Adobe flash player?
[21:59] <jussi01> Arlianin: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[22:00] <jussi01> Arlianin: also, the meta package kubuntu-restricted-extras will pull it and stuff to play mp3s and other restricted codecs also
[22:01] <Arlianin> so
[22:01] <Arlianin> I should run
[22:01] <Arlianin> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras??
[22:02] <dr_willis> I tend to install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' first thing
[22:02] <dr_willis> i thought it grabbed the flash plugin for you
[22:02] <dr_willis> i dont think it grabs java however..
[22:02] <SlimG> Arlianin: kubuntu-restricted-extras already contains the flashplugin (and java)
[22:02] <Arlianin> :O
[22:02] <Arlianin> ok thanks
[22:05] <fearful> hello
[22:06] <fearful> is anyone here avaliable?
[22:07] <fearful> I needed help with a issue on Kubuntu 8.04
[22:08] <wt> what's up?
[22:08] <fearful> um, I just switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, and I love it
[22:08] <fearful> except 1 problem
[22:08] <dr_willis> !ask
[22:08] <dr_willis> :)
[22:08] <fearful> :)
[22:09] <fearful> Well, I can't seem to change what my power buttons do on Kubuntu. Its a HP DV6000 series laptop.
[22:13] <dr_willis> if using kde. you may want to set up the machine to use KDM - instead of GDM..
[22:13] <dr_willis> ive noticed that some times the various power management/logout/off/power off options differ if you run kde from gdm, or visa-versa
[22:14] <fearful> and how do i do this
[22:14] <fearful> i'm completley new to kde dunno what kdm or gdm is :S
[22:14] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and set KDM as the login manager
[22:14] <dr_willis> the Login screen/manager
[22:14] <dr_willis> !kdm
[22:14] <dr_willis> !kdmtheme
[22:16] <fearful> it is already set to kdm. I have option of kdm or kdm-4 but I'm using kdm right now, still can't fix the power buttons :S
[22:16] <dr_willis> My power button just pops up the logout dialogs
[22:16] <fearful> I want my power button to Hibernate, and my sleep button to sleep
[22:17] <fearful> If I press the power button it shuts down automatically
[22:17] <jonathan_> hello!
[22:17] <dr_willis> Ive learned to never user Hibernate or sleep :)
[22:17] <jonathan_> i've a very short question about gwenview
[22:17] <fearful> !ask
[22:17] <jonathan_> new kameras save the align of a bild on shooting.
[22:18] <jonathan_> that means, if you hold the camera upright, exactly that is saved in the meta tags of the image.
[22:19] <jonathan_> most image viewers can read this information and display the images upright to, but they are safed like a normal landscape image
[22:20] <wt> fearful, checkout your system tray and look for guidance
[22:20] <wt> the setting should be in there somewhere
[22:20] <jonathan_> now i want to use the images in another program that doesn't read this tags and handles the images false. so i want gwenview to rotate the images in batch mode
[22:20] <jonathan_> is that possible?
[22:21] <fearful> Yea, if I click the power button on my system tray it lets me choose some options but not what power buttons do, it lets me choose what closing the lid does and what it should do when idled but thats it.
[22:21] <wt> well...I guess those are the only options by the gui
[22:22] <fearful> :S
[22:23] <fearful> So theres no way on changing this?
[22:24] <jonathan_> never mind, i found it by myself :)
[22:25] <fearful> Sorry I disconnected
[22:27] <jbg3> hello there does any one know about linpus linux?
[22:27] <jbg3> i bought the acer one and i've got some problems
[22:33] <martin_> hi, im having issues,  For some reason my max res is now 640x480, yesterday when i turned off my comp everything was working fine
[22:37] <samehsmh> jbg3: i had that linux too, it was on my acer too, i removed it
[22:37] <samehsmh> it's probably a thai distro
[22:39] <fearful> So can anyone tell me how to configure my power options, it was real simple in Ubuntu. I'd rather use KDE tho, any help?
[22:41] <martin_> hi, im having issues,  For some reason my max res is now 640x480, yesterday when i turned off my comp everything was working fine
[22:45] <fearful> Anyone?
[22:51] <dr_willis> Hmm
[22:51] <dr_willis> explore the kde contorl panel things.
[22:51] <dr_willis> proberly in there somewhere. :)
[22:54] <fearful> Alrighty thanks a lot anyway
[23:02] <DaskreecH> Hi
[23:03] <DaskreecH> can I start up in a runlevel without X or does Ubuntu follow Debian in that all runlevels are X enabled?
[23:05] <nico__> ciao
[23:05] <nico__> hello
[23:07] <DaskreecH> !hi
[23:08] <ubuntu_> hey guys..
[23:09] <roots> hey
[23:14] <ubuntu_> i gave up on ubuntu.
[23:15] <ubuntu_> i had many sound problems on my nforce4 chipset..
[23:15] <ubuntu_> it sucked... i`m trying fedora now..
[23:36] <geoffb> hello all
[23:36] <geoffb> anyone have LTSP experience?
[23:38] <BlueEagle> !anyone
[23:38] <geoffb> thanks
[23:39] <geoffb> I am trying to boot an LTSP 5 thin client into ICEWM with autologin, I have gotten as far as accomplishing this with GNOME, but cant seemt o get autologin to icewm working.
[23:39] <geoffb> any ideas?
[23:40] <geoffb> or links
[23:40] <BlueEagle> geoffb: I think GDM (gnome login manager) will log in any window manager automatically.
[23:41] <BlueEagle> geoffb: http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/812/
[23:41] <geoffb> I have set that to ICWM as default
[23:42] <BlueEagle> geoffb: then just add those lines to your custom config.
[23:42] <geoffb> does not seem to be an option in lts.conf
[23:42] <geoffb> or I am missing it
[23:43] <roots> manuel
[23:43] <roots> T4H PSS MS
[23:44] <BlueEagle> geoffb: It would be in /etc/gdm/custom.conf if you use gdm.
[23:44] <BlueEagle> geoffb: Did you read the link I posted to you?
[23:45] <geoffb> BlueEagle: Looking now
[23:56] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Any luck getting your sound working?
[23:56] <yokobr> I gave up..
[23:56] <yokobr> nothing..
[23:57] <yokobr> i spent all the night
[23:57] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Well, as far as I've been told there's a driver issue with kernels after .16 that affects nv chipsets.
[23:57] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Did you concider compiling a kernel from source?
[23:58] <DaskreecH> I'm having an issue with a Via chipset :(
[23:58] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Not sure if it would make any difference tho.
[23:58] <yokobr> nope.
[23:58] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Well, if the regression comes from upstream then no distro with the regression will work.
[23:59] <BlueEagle> yokobr: The only solution (for any distro) would be to go to an older kernel.
[23:59] <BlueEagle> ..or a patched version of the current source tree.
[23:59] <yokobr> yeap..


[03:27] <much13> Just grabbed the alpha. How can I tell if I'm using Unity 2D? And where can I toggle it on the login screen?
[04:52] <munch13> Is it a known issue that Software Center's crashing?
[09:49] <mvo> jibel:  good morning! the upgrade-tester looks really unhappy this monring, it appears that it can not find the rootfs anymore after the upgrade, the UUID is still in grub though. I have not debugged this further yet, so far I saw it on server-lts, I run a local server upgrade now to see if its showing the same
[09:51] <jibel> mvo, I re-ran ubuntu, kubuntu and edubunt which failed and they passed
[09:51] <mvo> jibel: oh, interessting. maybe its fixed already then
[09:52] <jibel> mvo, I tried to run 2 tests in parallel on each server maybe that's it
[09:54] <mvo> could be, but if I would love to figure out why it happens, it should be possible to run them in parallel
[09:54] <jibel> mvo, for server-lts there is really a problem, it doesn't reconnect to the vm after the test
[09:54] <mvo> jibel: right, I think that is what I was seening
[09:55] <jibel> mvo, I re-ran them to make sure they were not broken but I'll do further testing today. I'd love to use more power out of these machines
[09:55] <mvo> yeah, me too
[09:55] <mvo> keep me updated please :)
[09:57] <jibel> mvo, sure :)
[11:06] <jibel> mvo, the problem when 2 upgrade tests starts simultaneously is that they get the same vnc and ssh port
[11:07] <jibel> mvo, we could either introduce a random waiting period at the start of the test, or use some kind of lock mechanism
[11:08] <brendand> mvo - hi
[11:10] <mvo> jibel: oh, ok. that makes sense, I will ponder about it a bit
[11:10] <mvo> brendand: hi
[11:11] <brendand> mvo - i've been trying the test deb files in gdebi, it seems most of them are designed to test error scenarios. are there any in there that install cleanly?
[11:15] <mvo> brendand: I don't think there is, that would be really useful test indeed, this may work with something like fakechroot as a user even
[11:18] <jibel> mvo, k, for the moment I decreased the number of executors to 1 per host.
[11:20] <brendand> mvo - the fakechroot is for installing the test packages without spoiling the environment, right?
[11:24] <mvo> brendand: yeah, fakeroot and fakechroot are probably usful for a test like this
[11:25]  * brendand thinks DebFileApplication is becoming hard to test :)
[11:28] <brendand> mvo - ok, that's a good tip. thanks
[11:34] <mvo> yw
[15:30] <salem_> cr3, hi, just pushed the initial qt4 frontend code to lp:~tiagosh/checkbox/qt4
[15:34] <roadmr> salem_: \o/ thanks!!  Anyone else having libv4l issues in Precise?
[15:36] <salem_> roadmr, it only implements the basic, and probably the ui is not equals the gtk one, but soon I will implement the rest.
[15:37] <munch13> nm, think i found the bug report
[15:39] <stgraber> munch13: what's the bugnumber? I was looking for it yesterday but couldn't find it (I know I saw it in my bugmail a few days ago :))
[15:41] <munch13> stgraber: possibly 359045, but it looks kind of old
[15:42] <stgraber> yeah, I'd have expected something >890000 :)
[15:52] <roadmr> salem_: I sent you a merge request with a couple of tiny changes to that branch
[15:52] <roadmr> salem_: it's looking great so far!
[16:00] <salem_> roadmr, sorry, I was out for lunch
[16:00] <salem_> roadmr, cool.. I thought I had included __init__.py
[16:01] <roadmr> salem_: I didn't see it, but it's easy to add, it may even be faster for you to do the changes manually than merge my branch :)
[16:01] <salem_> roadmr, ah, got it, it is an empty file, so in my diff it was not included.. my bad.
[16:02] <roadmr> salem_: yes, argh, I don't know if it can contain anything, because empty files confuse the hell out of diff
[16:02] <roadmr> salem_: that's also probably what happened with the file mode 755, diff also doesn't handle those very well
[16:02] <salem_> hehe, no problem.. I can add it
[17:10] <charlie-tca> jibel: thanks for marking the bug a dup. Am running the same install on hardware and can not reproduce
[17:12] <jibel> charlie-tca, thanks for reporting it :) this bug is really ugly, it seems to happen essentially on i386 VMs running on amd64 hosts and it is not always reproducible.
[17:12] <charlie-tca> what a great opportunity for someone to excel, then!
[17:14] <rickspencer3> charlie-tca, we're working on it, it's not an easy one, that's for sure
[17:15] <charlie-tca> At least we can still use hardware installations.
[17:16] <charlie-tca> Any other information I can try to get if I can reproduce it, even in VBox?
[17:27] <jibel> charlie-tca, no that's fine. We have isolated the code triggering the bug and been able to reproduce it in a controlled environment. now that's up to the kernel team to track that guy.
[17:28] <charlie-tca> jibel: thanks.
[17:28] <jibel> charlie-tca, yw
[18:20] <salem_> roadmr, ping, still there?
[18:22] <alourie|laptop> hello
[19:02] <roadmr> salem_: here, was out having lunch but I'm back, how can I help?
[19:05] <salem_> roadmr, I have some questions regarding checkbox behavior. Everytime I run, it starts gathering some system information and then reboots the whole system, is this expected?
[19:05] <roadmr> salem_: yes :)
[19:05] <roadmr> salem_: let me explain :)
[19:05] <salem_> roadmr, hehe ok
[19:05] <roadmr> salem_: if running from source, it will not use a whitelist unless you specify one explicitly
[19:06] <roadmr> (whitelist = a list of the jobs I actually want to run)
[19:06] <roadmr> salem_: so without a whitelist, it will simply get all the jobs defined in the jobs/ directory, eventually hitting the "bootchart" job which requires rebooting the system to collect bootchart data - this is why it behaves like that
[19:07] <roadmr> salem_: in order to run with the default whitelist as used when the package is installed, run bin/checkbox-qt -W data/whitelists/default.whitelist
[19:07] <roadmr> salem_: when the package is installed, a script is created that automatically does this, that's why you don't see this if you run the installed checkbox-gtk for instance
[19:07] <salem_> roadmr, ahh, now it makes sense :)
[19:08] <roadmr> salem_: yep, there's one more thing that affects behavior here
[19:08] <roadmr> salem_: notice how checkbox-gtk first gathers some system information, then shows a tree list of tests for you to select
[19:09] <roadmr> salem_: checkbox-qt doesn't have that yet, and so after the gathering phase it goes straight into running all the jobs in the whitelist
[19:09] <roadmr> salem_: for the selection list to work, I think the show_tree method has to be implemented in the user interface
[19:10] <salem_> roadmr, yes, I am on my way to add it, but need to figure out a way to do it yet
[19:10] <roadmr> salem_: ok, that's probably one of the more involved methods to implement
[19:12] <salem_> roadmr, ok, cool! thanks for the explanation.
[19:13] <roadmr> salem_: no problem, I'm here to help :)


[04:40] <ubuntuappman> I want to emulate brightness control, using whatever it is that dims the screen when you are prompted for the root password.. however, I want to be able to interact with everything behind it.  is this possible


[09:35] <Tassos> Hello,
[09:35] <Tassos> Is it possible to enable the FIPS mode during the installation time with cloud-init ?
[09:36] <Tassos> for example, something like :  fips: true
[09:36] <Tassos> ?
[09:44] <meena> Tassos: no.
[09:47] <Tassos> Oh, it's not possible so far ?
[09:49] <Tassos> I read here : https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/security_hardening/assembly_installing-a-rhel-8-system-with-fips-mode-enabled_security-hardening
[09:49] <Tassos> "Add the `fips=1` option to the kernel command line during the system installation."
[09:50] <Tassos> So, I assumed there is a way to do this via cloud-init.. :-/
[09:52] <meena> i mean, if you want to modify a grub config file from cloud-init, yes, that's probably possible.
[09:56] <Tassos> Could you give me an example please ?
[09:58] <meena> Tassos: i haven't touched grub in ten years. I mostly work on FreeBSD, and I'm the only person awake.
[09:59] <meena> but basically, you could have a runcmd that does a sed on a grub config file, and then run whatever grub needs to run to update the config
[10:00] <Tassos> Oh! OK! Thank by the way! I will try to find something in documentation ( but doesn't help me to be honest )
[10:01] <meena> Tassos: basically, cloud-init reacts to FIPS being enabled, but doesn't do anything to enable it itself.
[10:01] <meena> Which would mean you'd need a second run… and I'm not sure how well that's gonna work
[10:04] <Tassos> Hm.. thanks for letting me know, yes it's a bit new and strange case
[10:04] <Tassos> or you need maybe an image with already enabled the FIPS mode ? ( if that works... :P )
[10:06] <simpoir> couldn't you just set something like `runcmd: ["fips-mode-setup --enable"]` ?
[10:09] <Tassos> I don't know, I will try it now... :-. Let's see...
[10:11] <simpoir> I don't know enough about RHEL, but from the doc linked, it seems like that tool can be called directly.
[10:15] <Tassos> Hm.. reading again from official RHEL documentation :
[10:15] <Tassos> > Switching the system to FIPS mode by using the fips-mode-setup tool does not guarantee compliance with the FIPS 140 standard. Re-generating all cryptographic keys after setting the system to FIPS mode may not be possible.
[10:16] <Tassos> So, it's not the best idea
[10:17] <Tassos> For sure, I am able to do this ( I've done this ) after lunching a new VM, but I don't know enough about cloud-init so that's why I am asking here, I don't know if it is possible to add a kernel parameter
[10:23] <simpoir> Well, you could also use the write_files and power_state cloud-config to switch the grub config with your own and reboot once.
[15:30] <minimal> Tassos: "during the installation time with cloud-init" - typically cloud-init is not run at installation time, it is run upon boot(s) of an already installed system.


[02:29] <bkerensa> Hello All
[02:30] <bkerensa> So I noticed Ubuntu California has some sort of Origami CD cover thing? Can Ubuntu Oregon gank that and any explaination on how to fold it?
[14:02] <jtatum> bkerensa: feel free to fork the cd cover :) it's in a bzr repo if you haven't found it already. as for folding, i'm not especially good at it but if you fold along the lines, you'll eventually see that one of the ways you can tuck things in makes it kind of stay closed.
[21:17] <nhaines> bkerensa: There's folding instructions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves as well as a link to PDF/SVG diagrams of folding instructions.  The sleeves are licensed WTFPL, so yes, you can take it and run with it.
[21:19] <bkerensa> ahh cool :D


[06:41] <dholbach> good morning
[10:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:21] <popey> pip pip
[10:22] <czajkowski> hows everyone ?
[10:25] <popey> Tickety boo.
[10:27] <czajkowski> always good
[15:54] <dholbach> all right my friends- I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[16:44] <Pici> 70


[00:24] <daftykins> tgm4883: this skynet guy =|
[00:24] <daftykins> not cut out for life
[00:24] <tgm4883> heh, yea I know
[00:26] <daftykins> weekend duty ^_^
[02:05]  * daftykins shakes his head
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> 36 users, its full house in discuss :p
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-s-official-there-are-now-over-1-500-linux-games-in-valve-s-steam-library-492144.shtml
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/09/you-can-now-buy-ubuntu-laptops-pc-and-phones-from-snapdeal
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> lookin neat also
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> good morning lordievader
[07:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: morning mate
[07:59] <TJ-> Hiya :)
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: on my updated system my rt2800pci driver showed driverversion= generic firmware and number
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> so those generic driver versions must be in the updates somehow
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> the rt2800pci.ko doesnt work by default so it seems
[08:12] <TJ-> Hmmm
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> im wondering wich package these generic firmwares are in
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> i didnt manually installed myself
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: would be interesting to know if we can download these firmware on usb, to install on offline boxes
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> in the future
[08:15] <TJ-> dpkg -S $(modinfo -F firmware rt2800pci)
[08:15] <TJ-> linux-firmware: /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-firmware
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> would this hold all firmwares for every card then?
[08:16] <TJ-> All freely distributed firmwares are in linux-firmware
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> nice one
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> ive seen that broadcom driver also on default 14.04.3 iso also, but thats another story
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> so lets say i have an offline box and install linux-firmware off the usb and install on system, it should recognize the rt2800pci
[08:18] <TJ-> 'recognise' is done by the Linux driver itself. 'be able to use' would require the firmware image
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cool
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> ill try that next box with nonworking card
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tnx for the linux-firmware tip, seems like all firmwares inside that tar
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> strange it shows as 'optional' and i never installed it
[11:47] <lordievader> linux-firmware contains all the stuff, you might just want to install a subset.
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: yes ive noticed all brands inside, but was wondering why it got installed on my box
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> hey hey
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hey
[11:55] <Ben64> hey hey hey
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> channels get more crowdy bit by bit
[11:56] <BluesKaj> I have too many chats on the go as ikt is :-)
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> but your supporting mates you dont forget right :p
[11:58] <BluesKaj> I try to help if I can, if that's what you mean .
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> no i just mean to gather here for chitchat under volunteers :p
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> its nice to discuss news and changes n stuff
[12:04] <BluesKaj> i did a total clean install od 15.10b eta so guess I forgot to include "discuss" when configuring konversation a couple of weeks ago
[12:05] <BluesKaj> of 15.10 beta even
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> cool
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> hows it running so far?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: your on kubuntu 15.10b then?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> quite well actually , some crashes with system settings. Plasma 5.4/KDE is still using X  tho , no change to wayland until 16.04 I think
[12:07] <lordievader> Might not even be 16.04. Too large of a change for an LTS release I'd say.
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you read this lol: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Unity-Bugs
[12:13] <BluesKaj> i read that 16.04 was going begin the transition to wayland, perhaps it was speculation, but tit didn't seem like it was
[12:15] <lordievader> Hmm, seems a bit daring to me.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> when is 15.04 eol?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> !15.04
[13:45] <Daekdroom> MonkeyDust, I think it's about 3 months after 15.10 is released
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> ok, i'm not reinstalling it in my vm
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:00] <BluesKaj> OS support lasts 9 months afte release
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !release
[14:01] <BluesKaj> except for LTS
[14:02]  * lotuspsychje waits unpatient on 16.04 :p
[14:02] <BluesKaj> impatient  even :-)
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> silly verbal wit: the patient is impatient
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:08] <BluesKaj> and an unpatient is therefore not a patient
[14:09]  * lotuspsychje feels like a paranoia patient addicted to the w3b
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> you skared him MonkeyDust
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> patience... time will tell
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> tiet veu e paafke
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ben oui
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> avec a little grass derin
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: good afternoon mate
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> 38 users! we have a record i think
[14:16] <pauljw> :)
[14:16] <ioria> lotuspsychje, good afternoon to all of you !
[14:16] <pauljw> hi
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> hey to u2 pauljw
[14:19] <ioria> official ubuntu-youtube channel ? does it exist ?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> hmm not sure?
[14:19] <ioria> i found only omgubuntu channel
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> ive recently saw a list of all channels
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> but cant recall where :p
[14:21] <ioria> i could be useful .... with a lot of tutorial , and graphic video simulations ... and stuff
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah would be nice
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> but not everyone approves the creation of new channels
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> i once tryed to make ubuntu-ssd
[14:22] <ioria> oh... i see
[14:23] <ioria> and ?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> and was brutally denied by an 0p
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> so i made ##linux-ssd
[14:23] <ioria> ?_?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> ioria: because the channel name holds ubuntu, it needs approvement first
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> ## are non-official channels
[14:24] <ioria> go it
[14:24] <ioria> got it
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> what a list omg :p
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> lol trivia is dead
[14:28] <ioria> i'm wondering what it takes to be approved ... being a  billioner hardware manufacturer ? ^_^
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> lol no i think it matters which 0p is replys at wich time
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> and find it relevant to create
[14:29] <ioria> oh... thanks for the info
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> nop ioria :p
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> dang, my 15.10 vm finds my NAS, but not my 14.04 shared folders
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> bridged network
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> weird
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> router block?
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> stupid ubuntu
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> wish i was in windows
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[14:47] <pauljw> heheh
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: if your getting too angry try this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/tutorial-for-microsoft-to-help-it-kill-linux-491638.shtml
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> no joke: in 2008 or 2009 i wrote as a user comment on a linux blog, that, in post-Ballmer times, Windows would become a "by-product" of MS and that they would focus on hardware and services ... it is now said that Windows 10 will indeed be the last release
[14:55] <pauljw> i read that as win10 will be a rolling release that never goes away
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> pauljw  yes, something similar
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> updates on w10 get forced now, unwanted
[14:56] <pauljw> now i see where they're maybe building a linux distro too
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> windows as a service, so to say
[14:56] <pauljw> yep
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> the time their developers get smarter, were 10 years later lol
[14:57] <pauljw> :)
[14:58] <pauljw> i figure that ms will claim to own linux once they have a distro...  heheh...
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> haha
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> bill torvalds
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> and the enter key will be patented by MS
[14:59] <pauljw> lol
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> :p
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> still 75 million users downloaded w10
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> i will have to convince more dualboot users to loose it :p
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> i have w10 in vmware, out of curiosity
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> im curious what netstat does in w10
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> outgoing spy connections :p
[15:07] <pauljw> no doubt, i have xp pro in virtualbox with no network connection.  i consider windows to be a virus.  my daughter has a school laptop that i will no allow on my network.
[15:08] <pauljw> not*
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> all win version are a security thread
[15:08] <pauljw> :)
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> full exploits and mallware
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> if you scan every pc with malwarebytes you reach easy 300+ malwares
[15:09] <pauljw> scary isn't it...
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> and ppl trust their payed antivirus
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> false feeling of security
[15:11] <pauljw> they don't know any better, ms is what they were raised on.
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> true
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> i once helped a guy with his win pc, because he had so many virusses
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> the guy bought antivirus2007 online, and payed 60$ for it
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> but that package was itself a pack with 200 malwares inside lol
[15:15] <pauljw> yeah, all to commom a practice.  so glad to be an all linux home these days.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> same here
[15:20] <BluesKaj> malware bytes generates a lot of false positives tho
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah cookies
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: but for a pc that never been cleaned for years, malwarebytes can help
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yup, I suppose , lotuspsychje ...wife's windows pc is remarkably clear of malware
[15:25] <OerHeks> a good botnet protects your pc from malware :-D
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> loool
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> yeats: welcome
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> your also doing support at #ubuntu sometimes right yeats?
[15:45] <OerHeks> old name, been here as far as i remember
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:45] <yeats> yep ;-)
[15:45] <yeats> thanks
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> yeats: well we have gathered here to chitchat with most active supporters feel free to add to favs
[15:46] <yeats> thank you - I've been less active recently, but I try to check in at least on the weekends
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> yeats: not the quantity but quality counts :p
[15:46] <yeats> :-D
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> yeats: we always doing support, but never have the chance to talk 2 each other, so here we are
[15:49] <OerHeks> gossip channel nr 1
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[15:49] <OerHeks> no, it can really be handy for volunteers to backtalk
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> and no girlz, hows that possible
[15:50] <OerHeks> ehh you think no girls are here, grinn
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:50]  * lotuspsychje slaps OerHeks into #ubuntu-women
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> you are visitor number 39 EriC^^
[16:10] <EriC^^> yay!
[16:10] <EriC^^> :D
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !peak
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[16:10] <EriC^^> did i win anything? :p
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yes an empty bucket
[16:10] <EriC^^> lol
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> you can carry 10 liters water with it
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> and throw it over OerHeks face
[16:11] <EriC^^> lo
[16:11] <EriC^^> lol
[16:11] <OerHeks> Yes, you get 1 chance .. me 2
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> the ubuntu bucket challenge
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> but instead of icecubes we let it freeze completly
[16:13] <EriC^^> lol
[16:13] <EriC^^> haha
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ok so far for quality ubuntu discussions
[16:14] <EriC^^> :D
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> what will the new guys think...
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> im out for dinner
[16:14] <EriC^^> ok see ya
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> bye
[16:15] <pauljw> bye
[16:15] <ioria> bye
[16:15] <EriC^^> bye
[20:59] <daftykins> aww i missed the group 'bye' :(
[20:59] <pauljw> heheh...
[21:58] <pauljw> bbl dinner time...


[04:05] <chad> hello everyone
[04:05] <Guest41237> hello everyone
[04:05] <Guest41237> could someone give me some tips on doin cool shit with compiz fusion?
[04:19] <Guest81243> #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <somekeithguy> I was wondering if someone could explain how multiple workspaces work under the latest kubuntu.  I just installed it under Ubuntu (kde-desktop) and nothing about it makes any sense at all!
[04:34] <somekeithguy> I would love to give it a shot......
[04:42] <somekeithguy> Could someone explain to me how kubuntu-plasmadesktop works?  Are their multiple workspaces?  Why does it just lockup running Firefox while xubuntu,lubuntu,ubuntu and ubuntu gnome run just fine.
[04:47] <somekeithguy> Anyone?
[04:52] <somekeithguy> Well a little hint.  For new folks coming from U/K/Lubuntu, KDE is like nothing else.  Maybe a little intro box/video would help.  It is completely foreign to at least me coming from those other desktops.
[04:53] <somekeithguy> And maybe look into the locking up of FF on netbooks with 1GB RAM.  Runs fine on the other desktops
[04:57] <somekeithguy> Anyone at least acknowledge seeing this?
[04:58] <Unit193> somekeithguy: Check ~/.xsession-errors, dmesg, or /var/log/syslog ?
[05:00] <somekeithguy> I could do that, but what about the simple concept of multiple workspaces?  All I see is some kind of search box when starting it up
[05:01] <Unit193> (I'm mainly acknowledging I see what you wrote.  This is pretty late/early USA/GB time.)
[05:02] <somekeithguy> ok,well I hope somone has seen by experience here and takes note.  I could be just not the target audience of course!
[05:04] <somekeithguy> Anyone that wants to help me further is also welcomed to on their schedule at keithclark1966 at gmail dot com.
[05:04] <somekeithguy> Thanks
[06:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:11] <supercuteboy> I'm having trouble with connecting my screen over DP. I installed a fresh kubuntu 12.04.03 with my lenovo x230 with intel 4000
[08:11] <supercuteboy> can anybody point me somewhere to look?
[08:30] <GeorgeMilnes> Is there an official kubuntu Twitter ?
[08:30] <IdleOne> if there is it would be on kubuntu.org I haven't looked
[08:30] <lordievader> GeorgeMilnes: There is a google plus page, I'm not sure about a Twitter.
[08:31] <GeorgeMilnes> OK thanks.
[08:31] <IdleOne> https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts G+ page
[09:04] <GeorgeMilnes> IdleOne, I haven't taken much notice of G+ I might look into it
[09:04] <QwertyKB> Any one knows how to right click in Kubuntu?
[09:05] <Graf_Westerholt> QwertyKB, just press the right mouse button.
[09:06] <QwertyKB> Graf_Westerholt: oops. that must have sounded really stupid!, forgot to mention using a touch device.
[09:06] <QwertyKB> (touchscreen)
[09:06] <Graf_Westerholt> QwertyKB ;)
[09:07] <Graf_Westerholt> QwertyKB, I cannot help you. I do not have a touchscreen.
[09:20] <marcusbaird> yo room
[09:20] <marcusbaird> is darkwing around
[09:28] <marcusbaird> Darkwing,  you around at all
[10:35] <GeorgeMilnes> Is there a KDE app for messaging localhost ?
[10:35] <GeorgeMilnes> Built into KDE
[11:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:44] <whiteheat> hi all, I have a question I hope someone can help me with
[12:45] <whiteheat> the question is on getting sound to work on both front and back audio ports
[15:21] <bjrohan> I am using FireFix in Kubuntu, a couple of days ago, some websites are not displaying correctly, while others will, any suggestions, it seems to be a text /  font issue
[15:29] <bjrohan> everything in rekonq works fine, as well as Chrome etc
[15:29] <bjrohan> Bueller
[15:36] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  set your gtk settings in system settings>application appearance>gtk  to the same fonts as your fonts for kde , it might help
[15:51] <bjrohan> BluesKaj: The single font listed or the theme? Either way, they are the same as the appearnce FONTS settings
[15:51] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  well ,it was worth a try
[15:52] <bjrohan> Yes indeed, I am looking for anything to try at this point 2 days ago just about all my program fonts minus the stoock KDE were FUBAR
[15:53] <bjrohan> Not sure what I did 9I only went through my home fonts dir and made sure all fonts were viewable), but not it appears to only affect FireFox
[15:55] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  personally I gave up on FF for now , it's slow and clunky on my pc , chromium altho it has some drawbacks is quicker and easier to personalize IMO
[16:12] <bjrohan> BluesKaj: is Chromium truly opensource? The reason I went to FF was for that reason
[16:20] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  doubt that there's anything truly open source about google poroucts :)
[16:20] <BluesKaj> but i can live with it for now
[16:21] <e_t_> Of course chromium is open source. Because the source is open. http://src.chromium.org/viewvc
[16:24] <BluesKaj> not in the mood . had enough hair splitting for one day already
[16:26] <e_t_> It is true, or at least it has been in the past, that Google isn't much into community and essentially all commits are from Google employees.
[16:27] <genii> e_t_: If it is open-source, ask them to give us the part which puts a later version of Flash Player embedded into it than what's available from Adobe's site.
[16:30] <e_t_> I thought that was only a part of Chrome which, though based on Chromium, is not itself open source.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> genii:  just checked about:plugins and flash version 11.2 is instralled on chromium , the same version as the flash installer appears to use
[16:32] <BluesKaj> this is on 13.10
[16:33] <genii> BluesKaj: My Chrome shows version 11.8 :)
[16:34] <BluesKaj> chrome ? , genii , I'm using chromium ...
[16:40] <genii> Ah, my error. Chrome shows 11.8, Chromium shows 11.2
[20:51] <Raunter> Hello
[23:43] <JMichaelX> i am trying to install 13.04 on a dell inspiron 1501. the live CD seems to work fine, but after installing to HD it locks up after trying to boot up, complaining of a kernel bug. has anyone else seen anything similar, or know how i might get around this?
[23:46] <JMichaelX> from the forums, i am getting the impression that this problem may be related to the bcm wifi driver