[05:44] <Kilos> morning all
[06:03] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[06:03] <Maaz> Hello Kilos
[13:45] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:10] <Kilos> Problem loading Google+
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[14:10] <Kilos> grrrr what now?
[17:58] <Kilos> yay we had some rain


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[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-cxxbridge-flags [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.0.62-1] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: horae [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [071~svn537+ds1-1] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-wayland-sys [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.29.1-1] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-adler [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libwacom [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/main) [2.0.0-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-chifflier-nfqueue-go [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.0~git20170228.61ca646-1] (no packageset)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-env-logger-0.7 [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.7.1-3] (no packageset)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-futures-lite [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-signal-hook-mio [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.2.1-1] (no packageset)
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libwacom [arm64] (jammy-proposed/main) [2.0.0-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
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[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libwacom [armhf] (jammy-proposed/main) [2.0.0-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
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[17:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-link-cplusplus [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.0.6-1] (no packageset)
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[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [8.15.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [8.15.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[17:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: flam3 [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.1.1-7] (no packageset)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libwacom [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/main) [2.0.0-1] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-serde-json [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.45-1] (no packageset)
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[17:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-futures-lite [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-inotify [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.9.6-1] (no packageset)
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[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-serde-json [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.45-1] (no packageset)
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[17:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-os-str-bytes [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-tree-sitter-loader [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-wayland-sys [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.29.1-1] (no packageset)
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[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-adler [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.2-1] (no packageset)
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[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-os-str-bytes [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-cxxbridge-flags [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.62-1] (no packageset)
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [arm64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
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[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-env-logger-0.7 [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.7.1-3] (no packageset)
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-futures-lite [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[18:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-serde-json [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.45-1] (no packageset)
[18:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-inotify [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.9.6-1] (no packageset)
[18:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-graphene-rs [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.14.8-1] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [8.15.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-wayland-sys [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.29.1-1] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-signal-hook-mio [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.2.1-1] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
[18:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-tree-sitter-loader [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-1] (no packageset)
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [8.15.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-adler [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[18:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-cxxbridge-flags [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.62-1] (no packageset)
[18:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-env-logger-0.7 [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.7.1-3] (no packageset)
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-inotify [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.9.6-1] (no packageset)
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-os-str-bytes [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-1] (no packageset)
[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-link-cplusplus [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.0.6-1] (no packageset)
[18:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-signal-hook-mio [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.2.1-1] (no packageset)
[18:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-wayland-sys [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.29.1-1] (no packageset)
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-tree-sitter-loader [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.20.0-1] (no packageset)
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-1] (no packageset)
[20:04] <vorlon> hmm now getting bounces from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for image build failure mails
[20:05] <vorlon> RikMills: should yofel be taken off the list of folks to notify?
[20:05] <RikMills> vorlon: yeah, he is inactive in the project at the moment
[20:06] <vorlon> ok, cheers
[20:11] <OldManWinter> Dang, huh.
[22:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: coq [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [8.15.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [arm64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: toon [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0~git20220106104723.370dcd9-2] (no packageset)
[23:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flam3 [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.1-7]
[23:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flam3 [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.1-7]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-arceliar-ironwood [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.0~git20210619.6ad55ca-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-inet-netstack [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.0~git20211120.8aa80cf2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cxxbridge-flags [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.62-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flam3 [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.1-7]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-chifflier-nfqueue-go [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.0~git20170228.61ca646-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flam3 [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.1-7]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [i386] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted horae [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [071~svn537+ds1-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [8.15.0+dfsg-2]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [8.15.0+dfsg-2]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [8.15.0+dfsg-2]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libwacom [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [2.0.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted optee-client [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [3.16.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cxxbridge-flags [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.62-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cxxbridge-flags [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.62-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [8.15.0+dfsg-2]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flam3 [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [3.1.1-7]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-cxxbridge-flags [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.62-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-env-logger-0.7 [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [0.7.1-3]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-env-logger-0.7 [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [0.7.1-3]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-env-logger-0.7 [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [0.7.1-3]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-futures-lite [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-futures-lite [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coq [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [8.15.0+dfsg-2]
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-adler [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
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[13:56] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[13:57] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-website
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[10:34] <AlanBell> not sure ubottu has the money for that
[10:38] <jussi> haha
[10:38] <jussi> ubottu: is broke :P
[10:38] <jussi> yeah, shaddup
[10:39] <Tm_T> seems to be working just fine, broken how? (;
[19:39] <Altair> i want see red colors
[19:43] <k1l_> Altair: what do you mean?
[19:43] <Altair> nothing bye bye
[19:43] <k1l_> o_O
[21:56] <lhavelund> o_o


[18:49] <locodir-user> Hi, I am a new user on ubuntu 12.04 lts
[18:50] <locodir-user> how do i install zte modem mf667?


[10:00] <asac> fta_: does<EMAIL_ADDRESS>now work?
[10:00] <asac> bug #227711
[10:00] <fta> no idea, try me :)
[10:00]  * asac sends a mail ;)
[10:01] <fta> is it supposed to be a redirection/alias ?
[10:04] <asac> fta: not sure :(
[10:04] <asac> fta: at least its still not set up
[10:04] <asac> but i am sure its supposed to work
[10:04] <asac> maybe one has to do something?
[10:05] <asac> fta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[10:05] <fta> reading..
[10:08] <asac> looks like it should happen automatically
[10:09] <fta>     (reason: 550 5.1.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table)
[10:09] <asac> yeah
[10:10] <asac> either its a batch
[10:10] <asac> or a manual action
[10:10] <asac> i'd wait maybe 12 more hours
[10:10] <asac> and then bug them in #launchpad
[10:10] <fta> while talking to mx.canonical.com, so it's not on my side ;)
[10:10] <asac> yeah
[10:10] <asac> i saw that
[10:14] <fta> inode->properties->next->next->next->next->next->next
[10:14] <fta> oops
[10:14] <fta> i will ping daniel
[10:14] <asac> yeah ask him ;)
[10:15] <asac> fta: that pointer deref looks like art ;)
[10:15] <asac> in C you certainly will risk a null-deref ;)
[10:15] <fta> debugging a crash
[10:16] <fta> it's gdb, i don't code like that
[10:16] <asac> thats in the gdb code? or do you type that in (gdb) ?
[10:16] <fta> i typed that in gdb
[10:17] <fta> well, i clicked that in ddd
[10:17] <asac> ;)
[10:17] <asac> ok
[10:17] <asac> thats ok i guess
[10:19] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ddd.png
[10:20] <fta> ddd is still an old ugly motif app, no gtk interface, at least not in ubuntu
[10:21] <asac> yeah. but not that bac
[10:37] <fta> "It should be working before the end of the week"
[10:41] <IntuitiveNipple> morning
[10:42] <IntuitiveNipple> asac: debugging on xulrunner... will the configure option "--enable-debug" enable the module logging, or do I have to do something more?
[10:53] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: hi
[10:53] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: wait a second
[10:53] <IntuitiveNipple> thanks :)
[10:54] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu.com/44847/
[10:54] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: i'd suggest not to use a package
[10:54] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: for that you just get the source tree
[10:54] <asac> (either from package or from CVS)
[10:54] <asac> and then you add that paste above as .mozconfig in the top level dir of the tree
[10:54] <asac> e.g. inside mozilla/
[10:54] <asac> then you build with:
[10:54] <asac> make -f client.mk build
[10:54] <asac> and
[10:54] <asac> sudo make -f client.mk install
[10:55] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: oh adapt or drop the MOZ_OBJDIRT
[10:55] <asac> from .mozconfig
[10:55] <IntuitiveNipple> so --enable-debug is sufficient then
[10:55] <asac> i just use that dir because i have a fast disc there
[10:55] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: --enable-debug + --disable-optimize
[10:55] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: but take care
[10:55] <asac> the package usually strips
[10:55] <asac> which might not be what you want
[10:55] <asac> thus i suggest just to use make -f client.mk  like above
[10:56] <IntuitiveNipple> The package always gets built since the build-process is shipped off to a buildd - I don't let my development machine get filled up with dev header packages
[10:56] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: once you have finished that just take care that the /etc/gre.d entry that points to your system install has a commented out PATH so firefox cannot find it
[10:56] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: well. then try.
[10:57] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: also pass --disable-strip
[10:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Interestingly, the packages are built with that
[10:57] <asac> yeah
[10:58] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: because dh_strip strips them
[10:58] <asac> thats why i say its easier to build the tree ;)
[10:58] <asac> maybe it works well with -dbgsym packages
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> never mind... this'll work for my purposes
[10:58] <asac> install pkg-create-dbgsym
[10:58] <asac> otherwise you wont get the -dbgsym packages
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> as long as the PR_DEBUG is enabled from configure that'll enable logging
[11:01] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: NSPR_LOG_MODULES=HelperAppService:5
[11:01] <asac> is the switch you want to use then
[11:01] <gnomefreak> asac: you dont have a nvidia card with 3d drivers i Intrrepid?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s/Intrrepid/Intrepid
[11:01] <asac> unfortunately i dumped my nvidia system is rotting in the closet
[11:02] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: and add the patch to the package that i gave you ... most likely it fixes this bug. and if not its surely where we want to build on top of
[11:03] <gnomefreak> thanks maybe ill find timo today and find out why 3d isnt enabled and cant be for some reason
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> I'll do that later; for now I just want to track what is happening and why
[11:03] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: well. if you want to scrutinize you ;)
[11:03] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: my guess is that its really the issue we see fixed in the patch
[11:04] <asac> e.g. it finds an app in gnome registry for the extension .txt
[11:04] <asac> and then it uses that to get the mime-type and accidentially finds a match in mailcap which makes it use that app
[11:04] <IntuitiveNipple> The 'why' is more important right now since it might point to wider issues, plus, it might indicate a user work-around that doesn't require a new package
[11:04] <asac> but tries to run it with gnome_vfs_mime function
[11:04] <asac> which causes the app issue
[11:05] <asac> "app not found"
[11:05] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: we will have an upload soon anyway. so the sooner you find the patch the better. users properly prefer a fix instead  of a workaround hidden in some launchpad id
[11:06] <IntuitiveNipple> the crux seems to be why "gnome_vfs_mime_get_default_application()" fails, or the code converting the result to mozApp fails.
[11:07] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: imo it doesnt fail
[11:07] <asac> what fails is the running of the process
[11:08] <asac> and that happens because it tries to run the process with the mailcap way even though it has a struct for gnome
[11:08] <asac> or vice-versa
[11:08] <asac> but well. if you verfiy the cause i am happy too
[11:08] <asac> i just dont want to waste your time - which would be more or less the case if this patch works - unless you like debugging of course ;)
[11:09] <asac> let me know what  you find ;)
[11:13] <IntuitiveNipple> "what fails is the running of the process" - you mean the external handler? No, I don't think that is correct. In my debug logs it shows that the alternative to VFS path is taken, but mDefaultApplication=null ( that is before it tries to execute it)
[11:13] <fta> asac, my email should be fine now.
[11:15] <asac> fta: testing
[11:16] <asac> fta: did it require manual interaction?
[11:16] <asac> fta: send mail btw
[11:17] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: i tried the get_default_application for text/plain yesterday
[11:17] <asac> it worked
[11:17] <gnomefreak> where is brusles(sp) its a country i think
[11:18] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test/
[11:18] <asac> thats the code for it
[11:18] <fta> asac, yes, it's a 2d cron task
[11:18] <asac> gnomefreak: most likely brussels
[11:18] <asac> ?
[11:18] <fta> asac, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/71
[11:19] <asac> ah ... then its their own problem if people bug them ;)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> thanks for fixing spelling
[11:19] <asac> they should run it twice a day :)
[11:19] <asac> gnomefreak: brussel is in belgium ;)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> asac: ah thanks
[11:20] <asac> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=brussels&ie=UTF8&ll=50.867511,4.367752&spn=0.186342,0.397568&t=h&z=11&iwloc=addr
[11:20] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^
[11:20] <gnomefreak> thanks looking
[11:21] <asac> gnomefreak: its more or less the European capital ;) ... i think the parliament is there ;)
[11:21]  * gnomefreak notes google maps
[11:25]  * gnomefreak was planning on playing with compiz today while i finish chatzilla and push both to PPA
[11:26] <gnomefreak> xorg.conf looks right
[11:29] <fta> asac, got it
[11:58] <armin76> asac: mozilla bug 440075 <- apply!
[12:11] <asac> armin76: please get that landed ;)
[12:12] <armin76> me? it needs to be reviewed first :P
[12:13] <armin76> but it isn't going to be on 3.0.2 anyway, so better get it applied
[12:53] <fta> my dquilt script is very handy now that quilt is no longer doing those patches symlinks
[13:10] <gnomefreak> anyone know the nvidia command to generate xorg.conf?
[13:11] <fta> did you try without xorg.conf ?
[13:11] <fta> or dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[13:11] <gnomefreak> fta: yes
[13:11] <gnomefreak> it doesnt help
[13:13] <fta> # You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf
[13:13] <fta> # For example:
[13:13] <fta> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[13:14] <gnomefreak> yeah it faile dto help i normally use it but im not sure what went wrong so i used sudo nvidia-xconfig (normally this helps) brb reboot
[13:43] <IntuitiveNipple> asac: Would you like to *shoot* the ubuntuforums web admins?!?
[13:49] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: i have no connection to them ;)
[13:49] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: why?
[13:50] <IntuitiveNipple> good... we can throw cream cakes at them! :D
[13:52] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just writing up a summary in the bug report... basically it is a combination of things. #1 is misconfigured mime-types (plain/text instead of text/plain !!) amongst others, BUT there's also in issue with xulrunner where it fails the "plain/text" lookup, then must look at the file extension, and gets the *correct* mime-type from that, but *then* doesn't store the resulting app that gnome-vfs returns in the mDefaultApplication a
[13:52] <IntuitiveNipple> nd therefore fails to load the helper
[13:52] <IntuitiveNipple> It'll be clearer in the bug write-up
[14:01] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: afaict xulrunner always tries to use the file extension
[14:02] <asac> it uses the mime-type to find the file extension and uses that to lookup
[14:02] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: anyway. thanks
[14:02] <asac> IntuitiveNipple: have you tried the patch?
[14:06] <IntuitiveNipple> No, I've just looked at the logs of my tracing reports. Gonna figure out why xulrunner 'forgets' the launcher that gnome-vfs gives it when it uses the file-type not the Content-Type.
[14:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Any idea who the web-server admins are?
[14:12] <Volans> IntuitiveNipple: admins of what server?
[14:12] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm checking in #ubuntu-website
[14:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Volans: ubuntuforums.com
[14:13] <Volans> the admins of the server are the canonical-sysadmins (see the relative page on launchpad)
[14:13] <IntuitiveNipple> just got there, thanks :)
[15:42] <pmatulis> asac: update: no change in alpha 5 re NFS/FF3 issue
[15:51] <asac> pmatulis: ok.
[15:51] <asac> pmatulis: how is network managerd?
[15:52] <asac> networkmanager?
[15:52] <asac> or ifupdown?
[15:57] <pmatulis> asac: one moment, overflowing here
[16:13] <fta> http://www.journaldugeek.com/2008/09/09/google-chrome-utilise-par-1-des-internautes-francais/
[16:14] <fta> 1% of french users switched to chrome, mostly from firefox
[16:20] <pmatulis> asac: network-manager is looking good (wired and wireless); ifdown eth0 says 'device not configured'
[16:20] <asac> fta: how do you know that they switched from firefox
[16:20] <fta> %
[16:20] <asac> pmatulis: maybe this issue just happens with NM? and if you use ifupdown for networking it works?
[16:21] <asac> pmatulis: point is that NM still has some issues with tearing down interfaces before we umount nfs shared
[16:27] <pmatulis> asac: if you want me to test something, best to let me know the exact steps you want me to go through (i.e. how to disable NM, not sure these days, edit interfaces file?)
[16:45] <fta> asac, they say firefox dropped 0.7% and ie 0.21%, accounting for the 1% of google
[16:49] <asac> pmatulis: 1. ensure that NetworkManager isnt installed
[16:49] <asac> 2. setup your eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:50] <asac> 3. check if its still reproducible
[16:54] <pmatulis> asac: that's weird
[16:56] <asac> pmatulis: ?
[16:56] <asac> fta: how did they measure that?
[16:58] <asac> fta: how recent of a ffox 3.1 build are you running?
[16:59] <fta> ~3 hours old
[16:59] <asac> fta: does it crash for you regularly? does jemalloc build work?
[16:59] <fta> crash at shutdown
[17:00] <pmatulis> asac: evolution is a reverse dependency of network-manager
[17:03] <fta> no problem with jemalloc
[17:03] <fta> asac, but a lot with asound vs p-a
[17:05] <asac> pmatulis: hmm of network-manager itself?
[17:05] <asac> pmatulis: not libnm-glib?
[17:05] <fta> asac, 3.1~b1~hg20080909r19012
[17:06] <asac> ok thanks
[17:06] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453933
[17:07] <fta> nope, never seen that
[17:10] <asac> pmatulis: for the sake of trying you could also move the NetworkManager files in /etc/dbus-1/events.d/ in some other directory
[17:10] <asac> and restart
[17:10] <asac> that should make NM not start (assuming you are on hardy)
[17:11] <asac> on /win30
[17:11] <asac> sorry that went to wrong channel
[17:57] <pmatulis> asac: i actually performed a package removal of NM.  'ifdown eth0' works, 'ifup eth0' complains of missing file: /etc/network/run/ifstate as well as ifup script problem: '[: 164: 0: unexpected operator'
[18:00] <pmatulis> asac: however, the interface comes up fine
[18:01] <fta> asac, stats are from xiti: http://www.xiti.com/
[18:04] <asac> pmatulis: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:04] <asac> pmatulis: did you reboot?
[18:05] <pmatulis> asac: auto eth0
[18:05] <pmatulis> asac: iface eth0 inet static
[18:05] <pmatulis> asac: address ...
[18:05] <pmatulis> asac: netmask ...
[18:05] <pmatulis> asac: gateway ...
[18:05] <asac> i dont even have /etc/network/run/ifstate
[18:06] <pmatulis> me neither
[18:06] <pmatulis> asac: no, did not reboot, will try
[18:06] <asac> pmatulis: do that
[18:06] <asac> looks too busted to be true ;)
[18:09] <pmatulis> asac: same problem  :(
[18:09] <pmatulis> asac: ifdown good, ifup throws errors but interface comes up fine
[18:09] <asac> pmatulis: ok. but NM isnt running?
[18:10] <pmatulis> asac: NM is not even installed
[18:10] <asac> if nfs is properly mount after boot it should be ok to try that way
[18:12] <pmatulis> asac: not sure what you mean by 'ok to try that way'
[18:16] <asac> pmatulis: when you boot. is all fine? e..g is nfs mounted and system works?
[18:17] <asac> pmatulis: can you then still reproduce?
[18:18] <asac> pmatulis: or did i wrongl assume that a nfs unmount/reboot is involved when it happens?
[18:19] <pmatulis> asac: i believe you mis-assumed, yes.  don't believe this is related to NFS
[18:19] <pmatulis> asac: you want me to double-check?
[18:20] <asac> pmatulis: so how do you reproduce this bug again?
[18:20] <asac> just stopping and starting firefox?
[18:20] <asac> or is there something else involved?
[18:20] <pmatulis> asac: ok, ok, me thinks we are mixing up bugs
[18:20] <asac> yeah most likely.
[18:21] <pmatulis> right now i'm talking about ifup throwing errors, not related to NFS
[18:21] <asac> pmatulis: right. i am talking about the final goal ;)
[18:21] <asac> how do you reproduce the firefox issue again?
[18:21] <pmatulis> other issue still survives: when user home mounted via NFS and cold boot occurs then FF3 is unuseable
[18:21] <asac> ok ... cold boot
[18:22] <pmatulis> workaround: mv .mozilla to /tmp (say) and mv back to ~
[18:23] <asac> pmatulis: is that 100% reproducible?
[18:23] <pmatulis> asac: yes
[18:24] <asac> pmatulis: ok. and you tracked it down to the places.sqlite file right?
[18:24] <pmatulis> asac: unfortunately not
[18:24] <asac> pmatulis: oh. i think thats likely
[18:25] <asac> pmatulis: at least there were other bugs that said that the places.sqlite was the broken file
[18:25] <pmatulis> asac: it said 'locked' when i issue .tables command but then i tried on working system and gave same msg
[18:25] <asac> maybe try to just move the places* files away and back into the location
[18:25] <asac> to narrow down the cause
[18:25] <pmatulis> will do
[18:25] <asac> pmatulis: is there anyway to preserve that file in such a "locked" state?
[18:26] <asac> i have the feeling that tarring up and untarring would also resolve it :(
[18:26] <pmatulis> asac: heh, yeah, don't know
[18:26] <asac> pmatulis: i am sorryy, but my day ended already ... and now i have to go
[18:26] <asac> pmatulis: which timezoe are you in
[18:26] <asac> ?
[18:26] <asac> UTC-5?
[18:27] <pmatulis> asac: EDT (13:23 right now)
[18:28] <pmatulis> asac: hmph, didn't happen just now, make that 99% reproducible
[18:57] <armin76> asac: appppppppply the patch! works fine here
[18:58] <busyfingers> got a question about outgoing smtp on thunderbird running under ubuntu. ,cananyone offer assistance?
[19:01] <busyfingers> question is as follows.......
[19:02] <busyfingers> i have thunderbird running on a dual boot system  windows xp home adn ubuntu 8.07 LTS
[19:02] <busyfingers> on windows i can send and receive emails perfectly.
[19:03] <busyfingers> however as of the beginning of september, i can only receive under Linux despite the fad that settings are identical in bothoperating systems.
[21:15] <fta> asac, [reed]: flash10 is barely usable for me... it sky rockets my cpu and look at this: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flash10.gif
[22:11] <Jazzva> fta, the same is happening here...
[22:11] <Jazzva> (regarding flash 10)
[22:12] <fta> great
[22:12] <fta> well, sort of
[22:12] <fta> do you remember when it started ?
[22:12] <Jazzva> yeah, at least you know you're not alone ;)
[22:12] <Jazzva> umm... well, it is like that for a while
[22:12] <fta> me too :(
[22:12] <Jazzva> I can't remember exactly how long, but I'd say a week or two for sure...
[22:13] <fta> apprently, the liferea bug was about that too
[22:13] <fta> Bug 203157
[22:13] <fta> and i have the same with prism
[22:13] <fta> the commom thing is xul + flash
[22:13] <Jazzva> you're not using nspluginwrapper?
[22:13] <fta> no
[22:14] <Jazzva> yeah... then it's xul or flash... (I'll be evil and blame flash :P)
[22:16] <fta> restarting X, brb
[22:19] <fta> youhou, new irc cloak
[22:19] <Jazzva> yay :)
[22:20] <fta> i'm no longer unaffiliated ;)
[22:20] <Jazzva> i hope I'll have a cloak soon ;)
[22:26] <fta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=914314
[22:29] <fta> hmm http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5754265&postcount=4
[22:30] <fta> bug 192888
[22:33] <fta> "This bug has 62 duplicates"
[22:34] <fta> and 261 subscribers, oh my.
[22:43] <fta> crimsun, you don't use your ppa for your alsa-lib ?
[22:45] <fta> hm, strange, i already built your branch but i'm not running it
[22:46] <fta> oh, it's older
[23:15] <fta> موزيلا فايرفوكس
[23:15] <fta> it's supposed to mean Mozilla Firefox
[23:27] <fta> [reed], today's trunk: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[23:27] <fta> 0xb7754003 in JS_GetClass () from /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1b1pre/libmozjs.so
[23:32] <asac> fta: looks like quite a generi backtrace ... you have more context?


[00:48] <gilbert> what up ohio
[00:55] <Cheri703> not much up here
[01:03] <gilbert> yeah same around here
[01:21] <Unit193> About to have tea, that count?
[02:25] <jandrusk> Count for ?
[02:26] <jandrusk> cat tea | wc -l
[15:42] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[16:28] <jandrusk> Morning.
[17:58] <dzho> hey there, jandrusk


[08:18] <dholbach> good morning
[17:23] <malindodev> Hello everyone..im new on ubuntu..I have one question..How can i install ubuntu on my portable hard drive then connect and use it on my LCD TV for view.. My pc monitor crack..


[01:31] <rhpot1991> SpaceBass: check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[01:31] <rhpot1991> to figure out why its giving you an error
[01:32] <rhpot1991> feel free to send me a portion of the log if you are having problems
[11:59] <default_> !help
[11:59] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[16:25] <qwebirc36556> Hi all,
[16:26] <qwebirc36556> Does anyone know of a bug in 9.10 which prevents the frontend loading at start up. When its started manually it works fine. It was working fine before upgraded.
[16:27] <qwebirc36556> Checking and unchecking the checkbox in the control centre has no effect either.
[16:28] <mrand> qwebirc36556: my 9.10 system behaved that way.  I haven't rebooted 10.04 enough to know if it is completely fixed, but it certainly seems better.
[16:29] <qwebirc36556> mine worked in 10.4  but broke in the upgrade to 10.10 its quite annoying as its a dedicated frontend. I have to dig the keyboard out everytime :)
[16:30] <mrand> it wouldn't solve the problem directly, but a remote key could perhaps be mapped to start the FE.
[16:34] <qwebirc36556> That's my other problem I need to sort out mapping the "none keyboard" keys on the remote. Thanks for the suggestion though
[16:48] <qwebirc36556> Tried unchecking applying then checking and applying again and this time its worked. Not sure what I did differently
[18:46] <jayBuntu> !help
[18:46] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[18:47] <jayBuntu> !help commands
[18:47] <Zinn> !help commands For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[18:47] <jayBuntu> hello. i am new to ubu and myth
[18:48] <jayBuntu> tryin to figure out where i can run mythfilldatabase from?
[18:48] <jayBuntu> is it a command line thing or app?
[18:49] <mrand> jayBuntu: it's a command line app.
[18:50] <mrand> Although if you just launch mythtv-setup, I believe it auto runs it for you after you exit.
[23:58] <stratagem> Does the auto-transcode job work out of the box?
[23:58] <stratagem> in all the installs I've had, it's always errored out.  "unrecoverable error"


[11:18] <Guest82> Where can I send a message to the company "kubuntu" to ask for the development of an audio driver? My notebook has no sound, but it works on Windows.
 😂 (re @IrcsomeBot: <Guest82> Where can I send a message to the company "kubuntu" to ask for the development of an audio driver? My notebook has no sound, but it works on Windows.)
[14:58] <user|83> How to delete kubuntu
 if you are planning to install another os, you can wipe the hard drives clean during installation. If you want to remove some kubuntu for some other reason, we need specifics
 Hi Rik, hope you're doing well. Wanted to know if the same applies to 23.10? (re @RikMills: Wait for the beta on 11th April. We are rebuilding a huge amount of packages to make sure that nothing even built in an environment where the bad xz was present)


[15:00] <bdmurray> o/
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <waveform> o/
[15:00] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 24 15:01:03 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:01] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:01] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[15:01] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
[15:01] <juliank> o/
[15:01] <bdmurray> juliank xnox slyon vorlon mwhudson rbalint sil2100 bdmurray tdaitx waveform infinity doko
[15:01] <bdmurray> juliank:
[15:02] <juliank> * shim:
[15:02] <juliank>  - did a lot of shim-review review triage where I closed old review requests and asked people to resubmit that missed bits
[15:02] <juliank>  - discussions about "future of shim" ideas: 1 binary for all distros, signature lists rather than embedded signatures (https://github.com/rhboot/shim/issues/223)
[15:02] <juliank> * grub:
[15:02] <juliank>  - verified focal SRU that makes ARM64 boot securely again (LP: #1862279) - that got lost in 2.04 rebase
[15:02] <juliank> * some more security work
[15:02] <juliank> (done)
[15:02] <bdmurray> xnox:
[15:02] <xnox> skip
[15:02] <slyon> - Evaluated new networkctl commands for subiquity/netplan, needs review
[15:02] <slyon> - Learned how to use Bileto
[15:02] <slyon> - Planning for OVScon netplan talk
[15:02] <slyon> [15:02] <slyon> - Reviewed & merged small 'netplan info' fix, PR#164
[15:02] <slyon> - Backlog & Launchpad bug grooming
[15:02] <slyon>   * commented LP#1874494, LP#1860201, LP#1846783
[15:02] <slyon>   * closed LP#1743200, LP#1728134, LP#1803203, LP#1866100, LP#1870561,
[15:02] <slyon>            LP#1875411, LP#1737976
[15:02] <slyon> - Fixed test issues with 0.100 and got package released & migrated into Groovy
[15:02] <slyon> - Prepared 0.100 Focal SRU, waiting in unapproved queue
[15:02] <slyon> - Prepared netplan get/set CLI + DBus API, PR#163, needs review
[15:02] <slyon> - Supported NM snap plugin testing, checked initial MP#391222
[15:02] <slyon> (done)
[15:03] <bdmurray> vorlon is out
[15:03] <bdmurray> plus one maintenance
[15:03] <bdmurray> SRU verification / testing of LP: #1894919
[15:03] <bdmurray> created xubuntu bionic vm & tested upgrade for the above
[15:03] <bdmurray> sponsored the apport patch for LP: #1893899, LP: #1775219
[15:03] <bdmurray> uploaded whoopsie which will not send AlsaInfo as its redundant
[15:03] <sil2100> Heeey
[15:03] <bdmurray> meeting with ubuntu-advantage devs regarding u-r-u
[15:03] <bdmurray> attempted a workaround for the Error Tracker OOPSes in oops-repository
[15:03] <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding updating oops-repository package on ET
[15:03] <bdmurray> facilitated rsync migration out of -proposed
[15:03] <bdmurray> oh, whoops
[15:03] <sil2100> Wait in line!
[15:03] <bdmurray> worked with hellsworth regarding libreoffice SRUs
[15:03] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:03] <sil2100> Butter butter line cutter
[15:03] <bdmurray> rbalint:
[15:04] <rbalint> * merged systemd 246.5-1ubuntu1, one test to run then i'll upload it
[15:04] <rbalint> * glibc landing ended
[15:04] <rbalint> * partner wor
[15:04] <rbalint> * +1 maintenance (ongoing)
[15:04] <rbalint> * meetings
[15:04] <rbalint> (done)
[15:04] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:04] <sil2100> - NEW reviews
[15:04] <sil2100> - FFe reviews
[15:04] <sil2100> - Preparing another new Ubuntu appliance image-set
[15:04] <sil2100> - Sponsoring netplan 0.100 focal SRU for slyon
[15:04] <sil2100> - ubuntu-image:
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Preparing 1.10 release
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Preparing SRU and FFe paperwork, performing some base testing
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Uploading changes to the archives
[15:04] <sil2100> - Slow phasing out secureboot-db SRU (with a small hiccup at the very beginning)
[15:04] <sil2100> - Handling new toolchain SRUs
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Reviewed and accepted some of them from the queue
[15:04] <sil2100>   * Rebuilt python2.7, gcc-9-cross-mipsen and gcc-10-cross-mipsen
[15:05] <sil2100>   * Waited for them to build (with some retries), re-syncing
[15:05] <sil2100> - Looked into some streams changes to appliances
[15:05] <sil2100> - Interviews
[15:05] <sil2100> - Started preparing livecd-rootfs changes for Pi desktop images
[15:05] <sil2100> - Slowly starting to look at the netplan get/set PR
[15:05] <sil2100> (done)
[15:05]  * xnox can go too now
[15:05] <bdmurray> tdaitx:
[15:06] <bdmurray> xnox: why don't you go
[15:06] <xnox> finalrd SRU released, pending PRs to include in core & core18
[15:06] <xnox> debugging grub2 backports to bionic (compress tests fail)
[15:06] <xnox> merged gnutls28
[15:06] <xnox> reuploaded zfcpdump-kernel
[15:06] <xnox> worked on proposed-migrations
[15:06] <xnox> secureboot-db being phased \o/
[15:06] <xnox> done
[15:06] <bdmurray> waveform:
[15:06] <waveform> * Working on MIR for rpi-eeprom & libraspberrypi-bin (LP: #1895137; LP: #1895133 merged into former); testing updated version in PPA (ppa:waveform/eeprom)
[15:06] <waveform> * Worked on firmware bump for linux-firmware-raspi2 (related to MIR above); now in PPA (ppa:waveform/firmware)
[15:06] <waveform> * Worked on flash-kernel bump (also related to MIR above); now in PPA (ppa:waveform/flash-kernel)
[15:06] <waveform> * Tested netplan 0.100 for wifi fix (LP: #1870346)
[15:06] <waveform> * pibootctl released in universe (LP: #1870100)
[15:06] <waveform> * Onboarding meetings
[15:06] <waveform> * Tested "more new stuff"
[15:06] <waveform> (done)
[15:07] <slyon> thanks for confirming the wifi fix!
[15:07] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:08] <tdaitx> I can go after doko
[15:08] <bdmurray> How about you go now as he may be late.
[15:08] <tdaitx> * scilab SRU (bug 1870813)
[15:08] <tdaitx>   - added more possible regressions, but feedback from sru is not too good, too many (un)related changes
[15:08] <tdaitx> * sync libspring-java 4.3.28-1 to fix ftbfs on groovy
[15:08] <tdaitx> * fixed pdfsam on groovy, waiting for sru in focal (bug 1887142)
[15:08] <tdaitx> * fixed openjfx's missing media/webkit native libs on groovy, waiting for sru on focal (bug 1877000)
[15:08] <tdaitx> * submitted mediathekview sru for bionic (bug 1853366, affected long ago by the openjdk 11 transition)
[15:08] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:09] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:11] <bdmurray> okay, any questions about status?
[15:12] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[15:12] <bdmurray> just our friendly neighborhood dbus bug
[15:13] <bdmurray> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html just a reminder there is this list
[15:13] <bdmurray> and it should correspond to cards for the team
[15:14] <Laney> did anyone manage to reproduce that dbus bug on demand? I would be interested to take a bit of a look at it if so ...
[15:14] <Laney> I did try for a couple of hours but failed
[15:15] <rbalint> Laney, no, :-(
[15:15] <xnox> that's the badger
[15:16] <bdmurray> Okay let's look at rls-ff
[15:16] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[15:16] <bdmurray> bug 1888726
[15:17] <slyon> we already carded that one last week
[15:17] <bdmurray> okay, let's remove the tag then
[15:18] <bdmurray> also bug 1871268 was brought up by mwhudson yesterday
[15:18] <bdmurray> rbalint: Did you have a chance to look at it?
[15:18] <rbalint> bdmurray, in progress
[15:19] <juliank> ubiquity could just set  APT::Immediate-Configure=0 IMO
[15:19] <rbalint> bdmurray, we may stop phasing glibc, but i think this would not help
[15:19] <juliank> ah, but this is a more global issue
[15:19] <bdmurray> juliank: its not just ubiquity see comment 31, 32, 33
[15:19] <juliank> right
[15:20] <bdmurray> rbalint: is the work being tracked in a different bug or this getting reused?
[15:20] <rbalint> bdmurray, i think a different bug would be better, since this one is rather old
[15:21] <bdmurray> rbalint: okay, do you want somebody to open while you work on the fix?
[15:22] <rbalint> bdmurray, let's stick to this one, people seem to find it
[15:23] <bdmurray> okay
[15:24] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:24] <bdmurray> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:25] <bdmurray> google-compute-engine-oslogin is in the MIR process
[15:26] <bdmurray> Is gce-compute-image-packages also stuck with MIRs?
[15:27] <bdmurray> juliank: you had lintian any progress there?
[15:28] <juliank> huh
[15:28] <juliank> oh the mirs
[15:28] <bdmurray> Right
[15:28] <juliank> I created cards for those, but not MIRs themselves so far
[15:29] <bdmurray> gce-compute-image-packages is also an MIR issue
[15:29] <bdmurray> so that really leaves binutls and glibc
[15:29] <bdmurray> rbalint: what is the status with those?
[15:30] <rbalint> bdmurray, i think i've filed the hint already, but will do so if not
[15:30] <bdmurray> great thanks!
[15:30] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[15:31] <bdmurray> anything else?
[15:31] <bdmurray> looks like juliank will be out next week
[15:31] <sil2100> Next week is groovy beta, JYI
[15:32] <sil2100> (I'd forget completely if not for Laney)
[15:32] <sil2100> ;p
[15:32] <Laney> 💚
[15:34] <bdmurray> Alright, thanks everybody.
[15:34] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 15:34:37 2020 UTC.
[15:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-09-24-15.01.moin.txt
[15:35] <sil2100> o/


[04:26] <jono> pleia2, are you around?
[04:27] <pleia2> jono: yep
[04:27] <jono> pleia2, just writing up a post announcing the donations programme, would you mind fridgeing it in the next 10mins or so?
[04:28] <pleia2> jono: about to run out to dinner, so "maybe" but I might have to do it upon return
[04:28] <jono> pleia2, no worries!
[04:29] <jono> I will leave a pastebin here
[04:29] <jono> apologies for it being late
[04:29] <pleia2> looks like it's sleepy-time for most other fridge folks
[04:29] <jono> yeah
[04:29] <pleia2> no problem
[04:29] <jono> thanks!
[04:29] <pleia2> sure
[04:33]  * Unit193 isn't a fridge admin. :D
[04:49] <jono> pleia2, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5782537/
[06:41] <pleia2> published: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/20/ubuntu-donations-and-community-funding/
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <smartboyhw> Hey dholbach
[07:09] <dholbach> hi smartboyhw
[12:23] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: hey, sorry for not being around, but I'm in the middle of a trip in Cusco and yesterday I had no wi-fi on machu picchu
[16:04] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: no need to apologize for being on vacation :) jealous of your machu picchu visit, I will go some day!


[09:11] <CIA-12> Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4091 /debian/ (changelog control rules): pitti's patch
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #105446 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Kubuntu-docs: faulty string (#46) in keeping-safe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105446
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #105525 in ubuntu-docs (main) "about ubuntu menu item missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105525
[04:46] <CIA-12> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r4092 kubuntu/keeping-safe/C/keeping-safe.xml: closes 105446
[07:14] <ubotu> New bug: #105378 in ubuntu-docs (main) "SASL authentication failure Ubuntu 6.10" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105378
[07:58] <locolbd> how can i access this file alsa-kernel/Documentation/ALSA-configuration.txt.
[08:01] <locolbd> how can i access this file alsa-kernel/Documentation/ALSA-configuration.txt.


[02:25] <robotdevil> is there someone around who may help me reproduce something in konversation?
[02:45] <rohan> robotdevil: sure
[02:48] <robotdevil> rohan: you use konversation? are you able to get sounds to play when you are highlighted
[02:48] <robotdevil> version 1.5 im using
[02:49] <rohan> robotdevil: now i'm using it
[02:49] <rohan> 1.5
[02:50] <robotdevil> I cant seem to get a highlight notification sound to play
[02:50] <robotdevil> the test button works but when I highlight myself from my android...no sound
[02:52] <rohan> robotdevil: want to try highlighting me?
[02:53] <robotdevil> rohan: ok
[02:54] <rohan> robotdevil: ach i did not have my headphones in
[02:54] <rohan> again please?
[02:54] <robotdevil> rohan: ok
[02:54] <rohan> robotdevil: nope, did not work
[02:54] <robotdevil> configure notifications?
[02:56] <rohan> robotdevil: try now?
[02:58] <robotdevil> rohan: ok
[02:58] <rohan> robotdevil: nope :(
[02:59] <robotdevil> think I might be a bug
[02:59] <robotdevil> was asking in #konversaton too but no answer
[03:01] <rohan> robotdevil: looks like a bug, yes
[03:09] <robotdevil> rohan: thanks
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[03:48] <unopaste> odsent you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:11] <TheFakeazneD525> wtf
[04:40] <Cinos> Well I'm not sure what I did, but it seems like no plasma widgets are able to connect to the internet properly and I can't find anything helpful on Google
[05:38]  * TheFakeazneD525 pokes Cinos
[05:38] <TheFakeazneD525> oh nvm
[05:38] <Cinos> ?
[09:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:49] <Kartug> hey guys. silly question here but how do i set a default audio output? I checked in settings but when i fire up youtube i still get sound through speakers instead of headphones
[10:00] <Kartug> anyone free to answer a couple short questions?
[10:01] <Moonbob> ask away
[10:01] <Moonbob> go to terminal and type in
[10:01] <Moonbob> alsamixer
[10:01] <Moonbob> also download the alsomixer gui
[10:01] <Moonbob> ...ALSAmixer gui
[10:03] <Kartug> hmm cant see how to set a default device for audio output
[10:05] <Kartug> nevermind found it :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> Kartug, install pavucontrol, it will give output device options
[10:07] <Kartug> thanks :)
[10:08] <nomansland_> Jawohl Feierpuppe
[10:08] <Kartug> hmm im getting 'E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)'
[11:44] <gpFree> hello, I have a requirement to occasionally use nautilus in kubuntu. All works well, except the program icons (back, forward etc) are missing, I remember that this is because nautilus is part of the gnome desktop.
[11:45] <gpFree> Can anyone tell me what I need to install to get the icons? I really would rather not install the whole gnome desktop if that can be avoided.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> gpFree, what requirement do you have that needs nautilus?
[11:52] <gpFree> I have trouble mounting windows network drives at my office using smb://
[11:55] <BluesKaj> gpFree, the drives don't mount in dolphidolphin
[11:55] <BluesKaj> oops
[11:55] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> i have to ask
[11:56] <tom004> hi, apt-get upgrade tells me these packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic. but muon says a security update is available and suggests I upgrade them. do I need to upgrade these packages to get the latest security patches?
[11:57] <gpFree> BluesKaj: thats right. When I put in my username and password the authentication fails. I think in Nautilus I can put in username, password and Domain
[11:57] <gpFree> dolphin doesn't let me specify the domain.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> try using the exact path to the folder in the drive
[11:58] <BluesKaj> or dir
[12:00] <BluesKaj> tom004, most likely, use dist-upgrade
[12:01] <gpFree> BluesKaj: I'll try it thanks
[12:03] <tom004> BluesKaj: thanks
[13:24] <xieyi> I read ksystemlog accidentally and found my sshd has been robust cracked. ssh connection requests keep coming from a ip. How can I avoid been cracked by it?
[13:25] <xieyi> I need sshd for my daily work.
[13:25] <xieyi> I cant stop the service
[13:36] <Kartug> anyone know how i can set a new identity for Quassel IRC?
[15:36] <rcw2> ive installed chromium and chrome into kubuntu.  will uninstalling chromium affect the chrome install whatsoever?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> rcw2,it shouln't
[15:46] <rcw2> thanks
[15:48] <rcw2> chromium can't be marked for removal in muon, hm
[15:50] <BluesKaj> chromium is better on linux then chrome in most cases
[15:50] <BluesKaj> than
[17:00] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:15] <rcw2> hi, i just rebooted after kubuntu locked up.  could not even ctrl-alt-del or ctrl+esc.  anything i can do to try and prevent this from happening in the future?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> rcw2, read your /var/log/syslog for clues
[18:14] <vbgunz> anyone here familiar with something like Audacity but made in Qt?
[18:17] <TheFakeazneD525> vbgunz: KWave
[18:17] <TheFakeazneD525> sudo apt-get install kwave --install-suggests
[18:17] <vbgunz> thanks TheFakeazneD525, never heard of it
[18:18] <TheFakeazneD525> vbgunz: it's KDE's audio editing tool
[18:18] <TheFakeazneD525> vbgunz: for audio conversion however
[18:18] <TheFakeazneD525> you want soundkonverter
[18:18] <TheFakeazneD525> same command, but with soundkonverter instead
[18:18] <TheFakeazneD525> --install-suggests will get you the encoders and decoders and libraries for most/all formats
[18:21] <vbgunz> thanks, I appreciate it, playing with it now
[18:21] <TheFakeazneD525> np
[19:22] <TheFakeazneD525> Yo, I got a question
[19:22] <TheFakeazneD525> Is wayland going to ship with Kubu by 14.10, or later?
[19:23] <TheFakeazneD525> Because I was kinda let down that it didn't ship this time :c
[20:17] <noobius> hey guys, i'm having an issue on a kde distro but i cant find a distro-specific channel, can i ask a few questions here ?
[20:19] <skini151> i don't think there will be acceptable wayland support until 15.04
[20:21] <skini151> I hope by the time 16.04 arrives wayland will be fully integrated, i'm also excited about KDE-NEXT
[20:21] <skini151> *Plasma Next
[20:23] <skini151> noobiud: ask your question there might be someone who can help you
[20:43] <genii> noobius: What distro are you actually using?
[20:44] <noobius> genii hi, i'm on a netrunner
[20:44] <noobius> kde 4.10.5
[20:46] <noobius> i;m having an issue on boot, appeared this morning, boots fine in recovery mode
[20:47] <noobius> seems that the screen is turned on, but the graphics are all messed up at first and then they disappear
[20:47] <genii> noobius: I can't find any IRC channel they have for support. They do have good forums however. You may want to try the general channel of #kde
[20:48] <noobius> genii thanks, i'll try that. thanks
[20:48] <genii> ( because odds are someone there knows more about krunner than in here)
[20:48] <genii> netrunner, rather
[21:04] <rcw2> right now i have a panel that is hidden until i move the mouse to the very top of the screen.  can i either 1. have it only appear after the mouse has been touching the very top of the screen for 2-3 seconds (not instantly) or 2. have  it appear only after hover+click?
[22:21] <rcw2> i hope its alright to repeat this now: right now i have a panel that is hidden until i move the mouse to the very top of the screen.  can i either 1. have it only appear after the mouse has been touching the very top of the screen for 2-3 seconds (not instantly) or 2. have  it appear only after hover+click?
[22:33] <aar0n> Hello everyone I'm looking help!!!
[22:33] <aar0n> sorry for Help !!!
[22:35] <aar0n> Some days ago I let someone use my computer on my user and o forget there was some files really important to me and i think now this person could copy those files i would like know if is possible
[22:36] <aar0n> see this on some file I try looking in the syslog but i don't see anything, can some one help me !!
[22:38] <aar0n> sorry for my grammatical but English is not my natal language
[23:28] <BoNk3rZz> need help with VNC in kubuntu
[23:29] <BoNk3rZz> 14.04
[23:41] <valorie> !vnc
[23:42] <valorie> BoNk3rZz: ^^^
[23:42] <BoNk3rZz> i know what it is
[23:43] <BoNk3rZz> just cant seem to get it to work in kubuntu
[23:50] <rcw2> is libreoffice known to have many bugs with kubuntu 14.04
[23:50] <rcw2> writer
[23:52] <BoNk3rZz> NM i got it
[23:54] <valorie> hmmm, s/he didn't share the vnc secret....


[03:27] <Mediaprodigy> Question: I need help, Ardour says it can not start JACK.. does anyone have any insight into this?
[03:29] <ScottL_> Mediaprodigy, can you start JACK before starting Ardour?
[03:29] <ScottL_> either using qjackctl from the menu or typing jackd in a terminal?
[03:30] <Mediaprodigy> ScottL: I will try
[03:32] <Mediaprodigy> ScottL: typing jackd in the terminal gives me a long list of possible command
[03:32] <Mediaprodigy> s*
[03:32] <ScottL_> have you ever gotten JACK running before?
[03:34] <ScottL_> if not try running qjackctl from the menu    ubuntu studio icon -> audio/video -> audio -> jack control
[03:34] <ScottL_> and you will probably need to set it up; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[03:35] <Mediaprodigy> this is the first time that i ever use Ardour
[03:35] <ScottL_> you can also use audacity which has a lower learning curve
[03:36] <Mediaprodigy> i am trying to get a project done.. which is time sensitive.. do you recommend starting with Audacity... vs Ardour.. i am new to UbuntuStudio as well
[03:36] <Mediaprodigy> but i am proficient with teh computers
[03:37] <ScottL_> yeah, I would really suggest using Audacity then as Ardour is fairly complicated
[03:37] <ScottL_> unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable about Audacity
[03:38] <Mediaprodigy> well that is great.
[03:38] <Mediaprodigy> jk
[03:38] <Mediaprodigy> ScottL: thank you
[03:38] <ScottL_> however, here is a tutorial for Audacity:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/tutorials.html
[03:38] <Mediaprodigy> :)
[03:38] <Mediaprodigy> Ok, looks like I will be doing some reading..
[03:39] <ScottL_> from what i've seen it looks pretty straightforward (the manual, I mean)
[03:39] <Mediaprodigy> ScottL: my first project is pretty straight forward.. taking a pre-existing song.. putting new vocals on it.
[03:40] <ScottL_> oh good, that should be fairly straight forward
[03:40] <ScottL_> import your song:   http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/tutorial_basics_3.html
[03:40] <ScottL_> record new vocals:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/tutorial_basics_4.html
[03:42] <Mediaprodigy> nice: this is going to be good help.. hope that i can move up to Ardour..
[03:44] <ScottL_> Ardour is very powerful but does have a learning curve as I mentioned...really amazing piece of open source software
[03:45] <Mediaprodigy> i do not want the vocals to not have any depth..
[03:57] <ScottL_> adding 25 milliseconds (I think) of delay can fatten up vocals, but I'm not really a mixer or mastering type of guy
[19:23] <Guest8455> I am trying to get Ubuntu 9.10 to use my wireless card. How do I enable the wireless interface?
[19:24] <ScottL> network manager is not installed by default on Ubuntu Studio
[19:24] <ScottL> that at least is my understanding
[19:25] <ScottL> you may install it and use it though (it is even included on the Ubuntu Studio disk - just not installed)
[19:25] <Guest8455> do I install that via the Ubuntu software center?
[19:25] <ScottL> I believe you can Guest8455
[19:25] <Guest8455> thanks!
[19:26] <ScottL> I found it in the software center searching for network manager...good luck!
[19:26] <Guest8455> thanks
[20:46] <Mediaprodigy> Can someone help me, I am using Audacity and it tells me that FFmpeg was not found, going to terminal and typing FFmpeg returns the version currently installed.. what am i doing wrong?
[20:50] <ScottL> Mediaprodigy, are you trying to import a file into Audacity?
[20:51] <Mediaprodigy> Yes
[20:51] <Mediaprodigy> hey ScottL: that is what I am trying to do..
[20:51] <Mediaprodigy> Was about to start meh project
[20:52] <ScottL> mp3?
[20:53] <ScottL> Mediaprodigy, I believe that Audacity might be trying to use ffmpeg to convert the file, but it might be that the version of Audacity was built against ffmpeg
[20:54] <ScottL> again, i don't really use Audacity so I'm guessing
[20:54] <ScottL> you might try downloading Sound Coverter using software center and perhaps convert to an .ogg file which Audacity shouldn't have any trouble with
[20:54] <ScottL> but i'm just guessing though, but it's what I would try
[20:59] <Mediaprodigy> ..
[21:00] <Mediaprodigy> ScottL: I am going to try that.. does that not come with ubuntustudio standard?
[21:01] <ScottL> sound converter? hmmm, i'm guessing not
[21:20] <Mediaprodigy> I am converting the sound.


[11:31]  * gmb takes an early lunch
[12:06]  * danilos -> lunch as well
[13:05] <gary_poster> danilos. my email replies about the bug notification stuff were OK by you?
[13:05] <gmb> gary_poster: Howdy. So, I'm still working on the devpad cronjob. Running into issues with buildbot since buildbot can't connect out. This might need a) Someone who knows more about buildbot than I to look at it or b) Same person as in (a) to answer questions when I have them.
[13:05] <gary_poster> gmb, buildbot?
[13:06] <gmb> buildout.
[13:06] <gary_poster> heh, ok
[13:06] <gmb> Two letters, dammit.
[13:06] <gary_poster> :-)
[13:07] <gary_poster> gmb, cheap hack might work.  Thinking.  Lemme get the branch to see what the buildout looks like these days
[13:13] <gmb> gary_poster: It's now at lp:~launchpad/lp2kanban/trunk
[13:13] <gmb> Rather than under ~yellow/+junk
[13:13] <gary_poster> gmb, yeah, yay :-) already got it there.  almost ready with idea.
[13:13] <gary_poster> I actually have two
[13:13] <gmb> Cool\
[13:13] <gary_poster> trying for the less annoying one :-P
[13:15] <danilos> gary_poster, oh, I haven't looked at the email at all :/ sorry, will do so now
[13:15] <gary_poster> gmb, ok I'll list both ideas.  First one is to do what LP does.  I consider this the more annoying approach, but I remember better how to do it since that's what we do now
[13:16] <gary_poster> For that one, in buildout.cfg, add this
[13:16] <gary_poster> (in [buildout]
[13:16] <gary_poster> )
[13:16] <gary_poster> eggs-directory = eggs
[13:16] <gary_poster> download-cache = download-cache
[13:16] <gary_poster> install-from-cache = true
[13:16] <gary_poster> Then make the download-cache and eggs directories
[13:17] <gary_poster> and copy those up wholesale from local bits
[13:17] <gary_poster> That's kinda gross
[13:17] <gmb> Ahaha.
[13:17] <gary_poster> but we know it works
[13:17] <gmb> I like a good kludge.
[13:17] <gary_poster> :-)
[13:17] <gary_poster> The less annoying approach is this one
[13:18] <gary_poster> You upload the necessary eggs (as found in your download-cache, or whatever) to a directory on lp
[13:18] <gary_poster> ideally this would be (1) owned by a group
[13:18] <gary_poster> and (2) already a published directory
[13:19] <gary_poster> (like ~/public)
[13:19] <gary_poster> or ~/html or whatever we call it
[13:19] <gary_poster> then in buildout.cfg
[13:19] <gary_poster> you say index=http://...the address to that directory...
[13:20] <gary_poster> assuming that devpad can access itself over the net via the same path we can externally, that means we all use the same eggs for this
[13:20] <gary_poster> and it is nice and easy
[13:20] <gmb> Okay.
[13:20] <gary_poster> however, that might be wrong
[13:20] <gmb> I'll do the first to make sure that the script actually works (I'm wondering about devpad connecting out to LeanKitKanban)
[13:20] <gmb> And then try the second.
[13:21] <gary_poster> ok sounds good
[13:21] <gary_poster> makes sense
[13:21] <gary_poster> the docs for the second are as usual hard to make practical use of
[13:21] <gary_poster> but they are here
[13:21] <gary_poster> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout/1.5.2#finding-distributions
[13:21] <gary_poster> it may be that we have to do other random hacks to make the second work
[13:21] <gary_poster> which I won't bother with till later
[13:22] <gmb> Okiedoke.
[13:23] <gary_poster> (sadly, I used to like buildout! :-P You can decide for yourself if the sadness is that I no longer do, or that I did initially, because I'm not sure :-) )
[13:23] <gary_poster> danilos, understood, np.
[13:24] <gmb> Heh.
[13:30] <gary_poster> bac benji danilos gmb, call in 3 (I must "prepare")
[13:32] <gary_poster> bac and benji sent their apologies
[13:33]  * gary_poster tries to build the new lp2kanban quickly...
[13:53] <danilos> gary_poster, emailed jtv, looked through your emails, they are all good, I'll just take a look at the race-cond bug description
[13:54] <gary_poster> cool danilos, thanks
[13:56] <danilos> gary_poster, btw, nobody complained or noticed the missing "subscribed by" titles
[13:56] <gary_poster> danilos, heh
[13:56] <gary_poster> I wouldn't have
[15:22] <gmb> gary_poster: Is there a good way to populate my local download-cache so that I can rsync it up to devpad? download-cache/dist is empty for my lp2kanban and the versions specificed in buildout.cfg are later than the ones in the LP download-cache, so using that doesn't work.
[15:23] <gary_poster> gmb, you tried rerunning buildout locally already, after making the same changes?
[15:23] <gmb> gary_poster: I have. Actually, let me try this in a fresh branch...
[15:23] <gary_poster> fresh shouldn't make a diff
[15:24] <gmb> gary_poster: No, but at least I have a better idea what's a result of buildbot and what's a result of me mucking about.
[15:25] <gary_poster> :-) if you get me a copy of the chanes, I can try running it locally
[15:31] <gmb> gary_poster: Oh, d'oh. PEBKAC.
[15:31] <gary_poster> gmb, cool :-)
[15:31] <gmb> If you set install-from-cache = true and there's no cache, it's not gonna work.
[15:34] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:39] <gmb> gary_poster: So, computer says "no" as far as connecting out to LKK. Going to talk to the LOSAs now. The error is spectacularly non-obvious, so I'm going to file a bug for that and fix it later. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630416/
[15:43] <bac> hi gary_poster, i've made some good progress but i'm a bit stuck atm on what i suspect is some missing zcml fu.  got a sec?
[15:44] <gary_poster> gmb, ok, progress at least
[15:44] <gary_poster> bac, ok, sure
[15:44] <gmb> Yes indeed.
[15:44] <bac> gmb: firewall issue?
[15:44] <gmb> bac: Yus.
[15:44] <gary_poster> yeah
[15:45] <bac> gary_poster: so two odd things.   one, i've specified a plural name for IProcessorFamily as 'processor_families' but it shows up in lplib as 'processor_familys'.
[15:45] <gary_poster> heh
[15:45] <bac> gary_poster: and the more important, i get error trying to get a canonical_url for IProcessor.  that's the one where i'm missing zcml i'm quite sure
[15:46] <bac> gary_poster: the diff is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630418/
[15:46]  * gary_poster wonders if benji would have a better chance of helping quickly with the plural thing.
[15:46] <gary_poster> looking
[15:46] <bac> gary_poster: these classes have never been exposed to the UI or API before.  only way to tweak them is through SQL
[15:49] <gary_poster> bac, did you expect the canonical_url for IProcessor to work, or you didn't expect it because you didn't know what to add?  I don't obviously see any current zcml that would expose it
[15:49] <gary_poster> I mean, in the diff
[15:50] <bac> gary_poster: no, i'm not surprised it doesn't work.
[15:50] <gary_poster> ok cool
[15:50] <bac> gary_poster: i'm looking for direction on the proper way to hook it up
[15:50] <gary_poster> gotcha.  Looking.
[15:50] <benji> I can look at the plural thing if needed.
[15:52] <gary_poster> bac, I have no idea, but am doing greppy things.  My current lead is "canonical.launchpad.webapp.interfaces.ICanonicalUrlData"
[15:52] <gary_poster> benji, do you have any idea?
[15:52] <gary_poster> I mean about the plural thing
[15:52] <benji> not off the top of my head, but I'd be glad to look into it
[15:53] <gary_poster> benji, k.  ...yeah, why don't you look into the plural thing bac mentioned while I look into the canonical url thing
[15:53] <benji> k
[15:54] <benji> bac: I assume this is the same branch as yesterday
[15:54] <bac> benji: yes
[15:55] <bac> benji: let me re-push
[15:55] <bac> done
[15:56] <benji> k
[15:59] <gary_poster> bac, are you already familiar with browser:url?  I wasn't but it appears to be common, and appears to be the way LP expects these things to be done
[16:00] <bac> gary_poster: do i need to expose a top level stepto for +process too
[16:00] <bac> gary_poster: yeah, i was just looking at that
[16:00] <bac> gary_poster: something like:
[16:00] <bac>         <browser:url
[16:00] <bac> 	    for="lp.soyuz.interfaces.processor.IProcessor"
[16:00] <bac>             path_expression="string:+processor/${id}"
[16:00] <bac>             parent_utility="canonical.launchpad.webapp.interfaces.ILaunchpadRoot"/>
[16:00] <gary_poster> bac, yeah, sounds like a good start to me
[16:00] <bac> so, in addition to +processor-family i need to add +processor
[16:01] <gary_poster> bac, it sounds like you are on the right track to me, so I'm gonna do CHR, but feel free to ping again
[16:02] <bac> gary_poster: but i wonder if that is too inflationary wrt to top-level entry points?  i suspect francis may have strong opinions
[16:03] <gary_poster> bac, does hwdb have a parent url?
[16:03] <benji> bac: it appears that you have to provide both a plural and singular in order for either of them to be used
[16:03] <gary_poster> like /hwdb/...
[16:03] <bac> +hwdb, yes
[16:03] <gary_poster> bac, I have no idea, but would that be reasonable to use then?
[16:03] <bac> but it is an IApplication
[16:03] <benji> (if you experimentally verify that as the case, I will file a bug about generating an error if you only provide one)
[16:03] <gary_poster> why is that bad bac?
[16:04] <bac> gary_poster: oh, you mean hang the processor off +hwdb or use it as an example?
[16:06] <gary_poster> bac, hang it off +hwdb, possibly as +hwdb/processor/ or something.  That may be horrible--I know nothing about hwdb so I don't know what their URL patterns looks like, and where conflicts might arise.  +hwdb/+processor?
[16:06] <bac> gary_poster: actually a processor belongs to only one ProcessorFamily
[16:06] <bac> so i can do +processor_family/processor/${id}
[16:06] <gary_poster> bac, +1
[16:07] <gary_poster> assuming that means that this will not conflict with a processor_family named "processor," or that we consciously don't care and have handled the potential OOPS if it does
[16:07] <gary_poster> bac ^^
[16:08] <bac> gary_poster: will keep in mind
[16:08] <gary_poster> cool
[16:10] <bac> benji: we have plenty of examples of export_as_webservice_entry with only a plural_name.  i assume they work...
[16:11] <benji> bac: maybe I'm reading the code wrong.  How do I reproduce the problem?
[16:11] <bac> benji: with my branch, run the server and then connect to it using lplib is one way to see
[16:12] <bac> dir(lp) shows the top level collections and you'll see process_familys
[16:12] <bac> or, i'm sure it is visible in wadl file too
[16:12] <bac> benji: do you use lp-shell?  man, it rocks
[16:13] <gary_poster> gmb, could you take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/161972 and see if you have any wisdom to impart?
[16:13] <benji> nope, I don't think I've heard of it
[16:13] <gmb> gary_poster: Sure
[16:13] <gary_poster> thank you
[16:13]  * gmb sees HWDB, gets scared.
[16:13] <bac> benji: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630428/plain/
[16:13] <gmb> gary_poster: I think this is one that abel would be best for.
[16:13] <gmb> I'll ping him.
[16:14] <gary_poster> thanks gmb
[16:14] <bac> benji: http://bradcrittenden.net/post/1173745688/interacting-with-launchpadlib-using-lp-shell
[16:20] <gary_poster> yay danilos :-)
[16:20] <danilos> yaay :)
[16:21] <danilos> gary_poster, and jtv was quick to react, 29mins ago marked as qa-ok on https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/394645 :)
[16:21] <_mup_> Bug #394645: IDistroSeries.getQueueItems deprecated by IPackageUploadSet.getPackageUploads <derivation> <lp-soyuz> <qa-ok> <tech-debt> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by jtv> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/394645 >
[16:21] <gary_poster> cool :-)
[16:26] <danilos> gary_poster, while waiting for henning to become available for a preimp, I've closed one critical bug (OOPS) which doesn't seem to happen anymore (it was happening every day until March 1st then suddenly stopped), and looked into another timeout bug and identified the core problem and potential solution (a solution that seems to work for that case, but since it's "remove an index that's in the way", I need to ensure it's not harmful
[16:26] <danilos>  elsewhere)
[16:27] <danilos> gary_poster, do you perhaps want these bugs on the kanban board?
[16:27] <danilos> gary_poster, (one was basically half an hour with matsubara querying the OOPS DB, other some playtime on lpmain_staging DB)
[16:28] <gary_poster> danilos, sounds great.  I haven't been putting the "close by declaring dead" bugs on the board myself (I had one yesterday too), but I'm happy to see them.  If you intend to continue on the timeout bug, yeah, def put it on the board.
[16:28] <danilos> gary_poster, yeah, I do for the timeout bug, so I'll put it up, thanks
[16:29] <gary_poster> cool
[16:30] <danilos> I am off now, tomorrow I am OCR and a help contact :)
[16:31] <benji> bac: I'm having trouble reproducing the problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/630436/
[16:32] <bac> benji: so you have nothing wrt processor family
[16:32] <benji> bac: not that I can see
[16:32] <benji> I've verified that I'm running a branch with your most recent branch merged in and there are no other servers running, and I see the requests in the access log of the expected server
[16:32] <bac> benji: i see the same thing if i connect using 'devel' version.  if i use '1.0' version i see processor_familys
[16:33] <bac> oddities abound
[16:33] <benji> hmm, let me look at that
[16:36] <benji> bac: yeah, I don't see anything about families with lp = Launchpad.login_with('test', 'dev', version='1.0') or lp = Launchpad.login_with('test', 'dev', version='devel')
[16:36] <bac> benji: that's very odd.  you did a 'make clean build'?
[16:37] <benji> bac: ooh, I think you diagnosed it
[16:37] <gary_poster> bac, fwiw, mrevell has not replied to https://support.one.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=2081 in a long time so maybe worth some commercial love when you get a chance.
[16:37] <bac> gary_poster: ok
[16:37] <bac> benji: or is the wadl being cached?
[16:37] <bac> i think it may be!
[16:38] <bac> that has bitten me in the past
[16:41] <benji> bac: yep, the WADL was being cached by launchpadlib, once I removed that I began seeing the correctly named attribute: "processor_families"
[16:42] <bac> benji: me too.  sorry for the goose chase
[16:42] <benji> I needed some excersize.
[16:49] <bac> gary_poster: when do you fly out to dublin?  what's your routing?  i'm on DL via ATL
[16:50] <gary_poster> bac, same here.  I leave 6:30 PM Sat
[16:50] <gary_poster> return flight was weirder
[16:50] <gary_poster> Delta leaving 10:30 AM Sat, through Kennedy
[16:51] <gary_poster> Don't remember why
[16:53] <bac> yeah, i'm not returning until the following saturday.
[16:55] <bac> gary_poster: it's odd on that commercial ticket matthew seems to have led the guy on about private hosting.  now i've got to be the bad guy.
[16:55] <gary_poster> bac, uh-oh :-(
[16:55] <gary_poster> maybe that's why he didn't reply :-P
[16:57] <bac> :)
[17:49] <gary_poster> lunch/getting last-minute birthday presents for younger son
[19:43] <gary_poster> bac, gmb, did you already countersign your allhands stuff?  I meant to ask this morning on the call
[19:43] <bac> gary_poster: nope.  will do now.
[19:43] <gary_poster> cool
[19:45] <bac> gary_poster: i have countersigned, validated, and confirmed
[19:45] <gary_poster> cool thanks bac.  I'll take you off the card
[19:45] <bac> is that it for a while, i hope?
[19:46] <bac> here's my favorite part:  The objective sheet can't be anymore updated, unless it is reopened by your manager.
[19:46] <gary_poster> bac, y, afaik
[19:46] <bac> umm, bad english
[19:46] <gary_poster> yeah :-/
[19:46] <bac> i filed a bug on that, oh, i guess a year ago
[19:46] <gary_poster> heh
[19:46] <gary_poster> yeah
[19:47] <gary_poster> improvements on that app never happen afaik
[20:00] <benji> It looks like it's written in Domino (Lotus Notes).
[20:00]  * benji prepares to do CHR.
[20:10]  * gary_poster was only so-so on CHR today, and fears benji's wrath
[20:27] <benji> gary_poster: heh; no worries, there were lots of projects to review, but now that I have the disable_projects.py script, it's quite a bit easier
[20:27] <gary_poster> benji, where is it?
[20:27] <benji> I did have one almost coherent question that I had to answer.
[20:27] <gary_poster> heh
[20:27] <benji> lp:lp-dev-utils
[20:28] <gary_poster> I thought it might be something like that.  Thanks
[20:49] <bac> benji: were there still lots of projects to review?  i did a bunch yesterday
[20:50] <benji> bac: yeah, but they were all registered in the last 24 hours; aparently it's a popular site ;)
[20:50] <bac> gary_poster, benji: is there a trick in the API to setting a property to a list of things?  i want to do:  archive.enabled_restricted_families = [arm] but i get a NoBoundRepresentationError
[20:51] <benji> I don't know of one.  As a matter of fact, I don't know much about how collections work.
[20:51] <benji> you might try archive.enabled_restricted_families[:] = [arm]
[20:54] <gary_poster> bac, I'm afraid I don't know either :-/
[20:54] <bac> TypeError: 'Collection' object does not support item assignment
[20:54] <bac> benji:  ^^
[20:55] <benji> [rhetorically] well, how are you supposed to mutate it then?
[20:55] <gary_poster> yeah, there must be a way
[20:57] <benji> from looking at the code, it looks like Collections are read-only; still looking
[20:57] <bac> let's see what francis says...
[20:57] <gary_poster> Good idea
[20:57] <gary_poster> I was looking at https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib and getting nowhere
[20:59] <bac> well, it seems it is undoable
[20:59] <bac> not doable
[20:59] <bac> impossible
[21:03] <gary_poster> who would want to change a list, really?
[21:43] <gary_poster> The list we should check frequently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=escalated
[21:44] <gary_poster> bugs danilos should mentor us on: bug 734765 and bug 775691
[21:44] <_mup_> Bug #734765: Show linked upstream projects to the translatable templates in the +templates page <escalated> <not-pie-critical> <upstream-translations-sharing> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/734765 >
[21:44] <_mup_> Bug #775691: Empty translations on one side do not get translated by the other side <escalated> <not-pie-critical> <upstream-translations-sharing> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/775691 >