[02:26] <RenatoSilva> bug 670870 is fixed in LP but not in the hg plugin?? Does that mean LP is using the repo plugin? Anyway, why can't I still import this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~renatosilva/purple-plugin-pack/trunk
[02:27] <RenatoSilva> s/fixed in LP not plugin/released in LP committed in plugin
[02:40] <StevenK> RenatoSilva: It imported successfully 13 minutes ago?
[03:10] <RenatoSilva> StevenK: oh, after several trials. Just because I entered this channel
[03:10] <RenatoSilva> computers have mood!
[03:14] <RenatoSilva> StevenK: thanks for unlinking
[03:15] <RenatoSilva> what would explain this?
[03:16] <StevenK> RenatoSilva: I'm not sure -- I just saw the import was successful.
[03:17] <RenatoSilva> ok thanks StevenK
[03:17] <wgrant> RenatoSilva: Well, it looks like it hasn't been tried in 1.5 months.
[03:17] <wgrant> bzr-hg has probably been upgraded since then.
[03:18] <RenatoSilva> ok wgrant
[03:28] <RenatoSilva> what if source repo moves? I don't see an option to set the source
[03:28] <wgrant> RenatoSilva: You can either create a new import or poke one of us to move it.
[03:29] <RenatoSilva> ah ok, thanks
[06:57] <diwic> "Failed to fetch package details. Retry" <- is this a known launchpad bug?
[08:05] <Arch1mede> is there a launchpad gui like app?
[08:19] <mrevell> Hello
[12:29] <adeuring> henninge: ^^^
[12:30] <henninge> adeuring: cool, thanks
[13:55] <dobey> Arch1mede: not exactly. there are various apps that use LP API for certain things.
[14:51] <hallyn> can someone tell me how to get the vcs import at https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/qemu-kvm/git un-suspended?
[14:52] <maxb> According to the whiteboard, it requires nested tree support in bzr, which hasn't been written yet
[14:52] <hallyn> ah, is that what that meant :)
[14:52] <hallyn> drat
[14:52] <hallyn> so i'll have to keep doing it manually
[14:53] <hallyn> thx
[16:01] <abentley> adeuring: I relieve you.
[16:01] <adeuring> abentley: thanks!
[16:06] <mneptok> abentley: you should also add "shell rc defined $DEITY" as a support contact. unless it's OpenBSD.
[16:07] <cgregan> Hello Launchpad team! I was wondering who is the contact for having PPAs made private within private projects?
[16:22] <ogra_> heya ... i just ran across an odd list on LP i cant make any sense of, probably someone here can elaborate ...
[16:22] <ogra_> looking at the table at the bottom of https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock/trunk/+ubuntupkg i dont get what the "by" field is supposed to mean, these peaople are totally unrelated to the package
[16:31] <dobey> ogra_: that is the last person to have uploaded that package into ubuntu for that series?
[16:32] <ogra_> dobey, given that neither of the two is ubuntu developer i would highly doubt it :)
[16:32] <dobey> oh
[16:32] <ogra_> thats why i'm so confused, they are both completely unrelated to the package too
[16:33] <dobey> that is weird
[16:33] <persia> That they aren't developers isn't the key bit: lots of folk get sponsored.  More importantly, they aren't listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rootstock/+changelog
[16:34] <persia> maverick, natty, oneiric ought be ~rsalveti and lucid, karmic ought be ~ogra
[16:38] <dobey> if you try to expand any of the entries on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rootstock it fails; that might be related
[17:15] <abentley> cgregan: I'm not sure, but I'm looking into it.
[17:16] <cgregan> thanks abentley
[17:17] <bac> cgregan: generally mrevell does private PPAs but i can help you out since he isn't around
[17:18] <cgregan> bac: I think vanhoof was able to create one....not sure how....can you please review it to be sure? https://launchpad.net/~hwe-lowell-team/+archive/checkbox
[17:19] <bac> cgregan: looks good to me!  vanhoof has super powers -- be nice to him!
[17:19] <cgregan> bac: heh...good to know! thanks bac
[18:09] <abentley> benji: I'm getting some strange behaviour from launchpadlib 1.9.7: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/657376/ Any ideas?
[18:09]  * benji looks.
[18:10] <benji> interesting
[18:13] <benji> abentley: I don't see a license_reviewed attribute defined anywhere in LP but that doesn't make any sense because of the dir() behavior
[18:13] <abentley> benji: project_reviewed used to be license_reviewed, IIRC.
[18:17] <benji> abentley: my guess would be that your cached wadl is out of date and it says that there is a license_reviewed attribute when there isn't; a deeper problem seems to be that license_reviewed wasn't left in pre-devel versions of the API, breaking backward compatability
[18:18] <benji> you can clear the cache by nuking ~/.launchpadlib/api.WHATEVER.launchpad.net (or .dev if this is a dev instance)
[18:18] <benji> (and we apparently are doing a poor job of validating the cached WADL)
[18:28] <abentley> benji: Yes, nuking the cache fixed it.
[18:28] <benji> cool
[18:31] <abentley> benji: Since 1.0 and beta are supposed to be stable, ISTM we shouldn't be re-generating them anymore.  They should be set in stone, and we should assert that Launchpad matches them.
[18:31] <abentley> benji: shouldn't be re-generating the WADL, I mean.
[18:34] <benji> well, it's not /quite/ that simple; we do add things that are backward compatible (whether or not we should is an interesting question) and we occasionally find things that are simply broken and unfixable in a backward-compatible way (or another way to look at it is that the existing thing was so broken that there isn't anything to be backward compatible with)
[18:35] <benji> we've actually tried something along the lines of a test that would fail when the WADL changed and would require a human to inspect the differences to be sure everything was still OK, it didn't work out for reasons I can't bring to mind at the moment
[18:35] <benji> this particular issue certainly deserves a bug though
[18:36] <X3lectric> hi so I thought that FTP upload was fixed but having tried it just now it hangs at last byte
[18:41] <jdobrien>  do:
[19:02] <X3lectric> so anyone able to use ftp to launchpad without it failing on last byte like 6 months ago when a new ftp backed was introduced
[20:55] <cnd> is it possible to have custom bug states for projects on launchpad.net?
[21:51] <lifeless> cnd: not at the moment; but see some design concepts on https://dev.launchpad.net/IssueTracker
[21:52] <cnd> lifeless, ok, thanks
[21:52] <lifeless> you can use tags
[21:52] <lifeless> and that might let you emulate what you need
[21:52] <cnd> lifeless, is there a way to limit who can add or remove specific tags?
[21:54] <lifeless> no
[21:54] <lifeless> they are very freeform today. We don't see much vandalism issues with tags though
[21:55] <lifeless> (vs official statuses which we have had to implement permissions for)
[22:37] <X3lectric> so no one has a clew why ftp upload still fails at one byte to go
[23:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> i just pushed to a bzr branch... how long will it take for code.launchpad.net to recognize the branch which now exists in a project's code branch?
[23:06] <lifeless> should be there now
[23:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> system isnt reading it
[23:06] <lifeless> what do you mean ?
[23:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> bzr push lp:~trekcaptainusa-tw/addgpg-apt/2.0.0  <-- that would push to the addgpg-apt project's 2.0.0 branch, right?
[23:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> considering that's my user and that's what the code page said to do
[23:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> system on my end says it pushed
[23:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> code.lp doesnt reflect it
[23:07] <TheEvilPhoenix> nor can i find the branch
[23:07] <lifeless> https://code.launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw/addgpg-apt/2.0.0
[23:07] <lifeless> looks fine to me
[23:07] <lifeless> its visible here - https://code.launchpad.net/addgpg-apt
[23:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> then wth is my system on about
[23:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> but there's more than one branch
[23:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> which branch is that main code area focusing on?>
[23:09] <lifeless> You'll have to give me urls or be more detailed. There are many things you might mean.
[23:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah there we go
[23:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> i see... i need to manually specify where the branch was...
[23:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> hm
[23:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah i see
[23:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> i specified my own area as the first one... lp:~trekcaptainusa-tw
[23:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> by pushing to lp:addgpg-apt/2.0.0 instead of starting wtih myself...
[23:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> it worked.
[23:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> *facedesk*
[23:14] <lifeless> ok, so you do need to link them
[23:15] <lifeless> now they are linked, lp:addgpg-apt/2.0.0 is an alias
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> yeah i should have known that... having system implosions since i last used bzr screwed with that...
[23:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> *facedesks again*
[23:55] <slug> hi, what's the launchpad ppa configuration? I get failed build for i386, works for amd64 and if I run the build on a local machine it works for both using pbuilder
[23:56] <wgrant> slug: Do you have a link to the build log?
[23:57] <slug> this is the failed https://launchpad.net/~slug-debian/+archive/ppa/+build/2661543
[23:57] <slug> for i386. for the successful amd64 build: https://launchpad.net/~slug-debian/+archive/ppa/+build/2661542
[23:58] <slug> and my i386 build: http://slug.aeminium.org/software/ubuntu/ppa/deal.ii/
[23:58] <wgrant> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/build/buildd/deal.ii-7.0.0/common/Make.global_options'.  Stop.
[23:58] <wgrant> This is while building docs, it seems.
[23:58] <wgrant> Which probably only happens on i386.
[23:59] <slug> wgrant: yeah, i saw that. but why does amd64 and my i386 build with the exact same thing works?
[23:59] <wgrant> As binary-indep is only called on i386.
[23:59] <wgrant> (so the arch-indep packages are only built once)


[16:45] <apw> does anyone understand the relationship between in kernel alsa, and the stuff released at http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page


 so that's a new thing then
 @teward001 [so that's a new thing then], Apparently. Talked to one of the Libera staff who is former Freenode staff and they said it wasn't an issue before, so it must be new.
 I'll try again after the Libera <-> Matrix bridge is in place.


[07:16] <flocculant> reporting the desktop fail against xorg *shrug*
[07:16] <flocculant> though I've got apport file to report against linux too
[07:42] <flocculant> bluesabre: bug 1615338
[07:42] <flocculant> added what I could to that
[07:43] <Unit193> flocculant: Could edit /usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop so it launches it like it used to, not in a systemd session.
[07:43] <flocculant> never had to ssh into a livesession nor a kvm guest - so that was fun and the thing I learnt today - makes the rest of the day easy \o/
[07:43] <flocculant> Unit193: you mean for my dead install?
[07:44] <flocculant> I assume you mean change Exec=/usr/share/xfce4/scripts/run-systemd-session xubuntu-session.target to something else that I don't know :D
[07:45] <Unit193> Exec=startxfce4
[07:45] <flocculant> it's quite refreshing being in a system that doesn't need 100's Mb of updates twice a day :D
[07:47] <flocculant> ok - biab
[07:48] <flocculant> well I got in ok :)
[07:51] <Unit193> Knew xorg wasn't right since that one works, figured it was systemd.
[07:51] <flocculant> Unit193: do you mean report bug against systemd?
[07:52] <Unit193> Eh, time to poke pitti and tell him what you discovered? :P
[07:52] <flocculant> well I'll start with a bug report then :D
[07:53] <flocculant> "pitti - I discovered that if I did what ukikie said I've got a working desktop" :p
[07:54] <Unit193> Hah. :P
[07:54] <Unit193> Well he's Canonical so he'll be back Monday.
[07:54] <flocculant> just set up the desktop again ...
[07:54] <flocculant> yea - I'll leave him a message in -release :)
[07:55] <flocculant> then hassle him when I wake up
[08:00] <flocculant> Unit193: thanks :)
[08:00] <Unit193> Sure thing, I suppose.
[08:04] <flocculant> well then - I'm hardly likely to not thank you am I :p
[08:13] <flocculant> bug 1615341
[09:08] <Unit193> knome: Can you auto-discard *.bid and *.stream?
[09:44] <knome> Unit193, sure
[09:45] <knome> i just came here to thank whoever cleared the moderation queue anyways :P
[09:45] <Unit193> 'Welcome, it had a toooon of .stream ones.
[09:45] <knome> yup
[09:46] <Unit193> 23 to be exact.
[09:48] <knome> now blocking them from both -devel and -users
[09:48] <knome> and synced the other wildcards between the two too
[09:49] <Unit193> Great.
[09:49] <knome> fwiw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23075033/
[09:53] <Unit193> I have a log of emails and actions if you want it. :P
[10:04] <knome> rather just a diff for the blocklist :P
[10:04] <knome> but basically, if you see a pattern, always feel free to ping me here or send an email, and i'll happily edit the lists
[10:04] <knome> makes it easier for us all
[10:04] <knome> but, time to go
[10:04] <knome> ttyl
[10:05] <knome> and have a nice.. night?
[10:05] <knome> :)
[13:04] <flocculant> bluesabre: laney is on the case it seems
[16:31] <bluesabre> flocculant: thats good news
[16:34] <flocculant> bluesabre: yup :)
[16:35] <flocculant> guessing because he's running b1 from canonical side he knew it would cause mate issues :)
[16:45] <flocculant> bluesabre: grabbed it from proposed, restored original xubuntu.desktop, rebooted fine :)
[16:45] <flocculant> Unit193: thanks for pointing in the right direction :)
[17:25] <Unit193> \o/
[17:52] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: if you've not read backlog - network is fixed, something else broke - possibly won't land before our images build early tomorrow - so if they're still fubar - should be ok Tuesday
[17:52] <flocculant> bbl
[18:38] <akxwi-dave> flocculant: cheers bud.. will keep an ee one em
[18:51] <sakrecoer> greetins, may i ask if your latest daily iso installs? i tried ours today and it failed again
[18:51] <flocculant> sakrecoer: nope
[18:51] <flocculant> bug 1615341
[18:52] <sakrecoer> flocculant: ok... but at least, it finishes installation?
[18:52] <flocculant> sakrecoer: assuming you are impacted same as us - it installs but then the desktop fails on reboot
[18:53] <sakrecoer> ok, well here the install doesn't even finish..
[18:53] <flocculant> sakrecoer: oh hang on though - you've got issues anyway with iso builds failing
[18:55] <sakrecoer> flocculant: yeah, lets hope that will do...
[18:55] <sakrecoer> thank you anyways flocculant :)
[18:56] <flocculant> you need to find out what's causing your issue - then get that sorted for your iso to build - afaik ross is aware of all that
[18:58] <sakrecoer> thanks, yes.. lets hope he is available too :)
[18:59] <sakrecoer> (note that he tends to be available... don't get me wrong :) )


[03:39] <drs305> Asked this earlier but didn't get a response. Anyone?
[03:39] <drs305> Is there a way to quote a file but shrink the font size?  i.e. display the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg within {{{  }}} but use a smaller font to minimize the space.
[03:40] <drs305> The `-  made it the font a little smaller but didn't reduce the size too much. Here is the wiki page on which I'd like to shrink teh grub.cfg contents:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2


[00:02] <bixter> just want to say i switched from SageTV to mythbuntu (ltsp/diskless) and am so happy. I used mythtv like 10 years ago and it is great to see how much easier things are
[00:02] <sauc1er> it got lots disks and runs 24/7
[00:02] <sauc1er> which box do you suggest for diskless  mythtv?
[00:03] <bixter> im using zbox id41
[00:03] <sauc1er> pxe boot?
[00:03] <sauc1er> fanless system?
[00:03] <bixter> ion2 and 2GB of ram. plays 1080p with hdmi audio at 5% cpu usage
[00:03] <bixter> yep pxe
[00:04] <bixter> i put a little 8GB sdhc stick in for theme and thumb caching
[00:04] <sauc1er> you got vlan or vpn set up?
[00:04] <sauc1er> lan side
[00:04] <bixter> all on the same vlan
[00:04] <bixter> ur want to pxe over vpn?
[00:04] <sauc1er> not if I have to ^^
[00:05] <bixter> dont, same vlan works great
[00:05] <bixter> pxe over a vlan might need a helper
[00:05] <sauc1er> mhm pxe needs an extra dhcp server, right?
[00:06] <bixter> unless u have access to the config of the one running, yes/
[00:06] <sauc1er> i run ddwrt on my router
[00:06] <bixter> perfect then u can add the right commands
[00:07] <bixter> i would pull that out though and run it on ur myth backend. look at mytbuntu
[00:07] <bixter> but it can stay on ur router with the right config
[00:07] <sauc1er> yeah, the thing is I have ubuntu-server with xfce already setup
[00:07] <bixter> ah
[00:07] <sauc1er> dont want to start over with a new installation
[00:08] <sauc1er> and i dont know if mythbuntu in a vm will integrate well
[00:08] <bixter> well, u could install ltsp and set things up yourself. its just a fat client
[00:08] <bixter> u prob domt have to
[00:09] <sauc1er> i could add the mythbuntu repos
[00:09] <bixter> i believe ltsp can create a myth fat client
[00:09] <bixter> right
[00:09] <sauc1er> how do I get rid of the awful configuration interafce
[00:09] <sauc1er> ?
[00:10] <sauc1er> just edit the .conf ?
[00:10] <sauc1er> is there something ncurses based or sth?
[01:00] <SkipMFreek> Hi, i was wondering if someone here could help. I'm trying to install mythbuntu on a parallel primary partition using wubi. However upon reboot im greated with a error saying sda cannot be found
[01:00] <SkipMFreek> Does anyone here have any experience with wubi ?
[01:01] <sauc1er> chroot into installation, and fix fstab using uuid
[01:04] <SkipMFreek> sauc1er:  i haven't explored any similar possibilities , that might be worth exploring
[01:05] <SkipMFreek> sauc1er: how exactly can i do that ? with a liveUSB linux stick perhaps ?
[01:05] <SkipMFreek> sauc1er:  in other words the installation doesn't even complete
[01:06] <SkipMFreek> however i suspect you know that
[01:06] <sauc1er> sry, pretty busy atm
[01:07] <sauc1er> there is a great deal of info in the buntu wiki
[01:07] <sauc1er> really comprehensive
[01:08] <SkipMFreek> i read it cover to cover, it make some small references to fstab but it doesn't say exactly what the problem is related to
[01:13] <SkipMFreek> ill be back in a moment
[14:11] <Kimble> I need some help setting up a bare-bones mythtv backend on oneiric.  I'd be grateful if someone could walk me through this. :)
[19:53] <freemason1977> when i startup mythbuntu it goes from the main desktop to  what looks like a different desktop completely with a bluebackground and one folder.  What do i make of this , its very odd.
[19:54] <freemason1977> It is almost as if MB is starting a completely different desktop over the original one that has all of my icons.
[20:05] <freemason1977> does anyone know what to make of this ?
[20:05] <freemason1977> on bootup MB goes from one desktop to another
[20:10] <TandyUK> ok i have installed a mythbuntu systemn for a friend consisting of a backend and 2 frontends
[20:10] <TandyUK> now im stuggling to answer some baic questions, and google isnt helping
[20:11] <TandyUK> they are: How do you create a playlist
[20:11] <TandyUK> for both music and videos
[20:11] <TandyUK> pretty simple request i think
[20:29] <freemason1977> brb
[20:49] <freemason1977> got a bit of a odd happenings here,  my main desktop disappears on startup and i am greeted with a different blue desktop


[16:58] <arraybolt3> rick-timmis, Rick_Timis: do you have any idea what license the new Kubuntu branding is under?
 https://github.com/kubuntu-team/kubuntu-branding/blob/main/LICENSE
 Creative Commons Universal
[16:59] <arraybolt3> oh wow, didn't expect things to be that permissive. Alrighty then, thank you!
[19:02] <rick-timmis> More new stuff has landed in the ISO, just installed it using KubuQA and it's looking nice
[19:02] <valorie> excellent news
[19:03] <sgmoore> rick-timmis: can you tell me what the launcher icon looks like?
 This is it on first login : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6856db9d/image_2024_04_18_20_04_24.png
[19:05] <sgmoore> perfect thank you
 I think it's go t the new one
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/c38a7936/image_2024_04_18_20_05_23.png
 I did a snaakey ISO rebuild before the release team locked that ability ;)
 The old one on my desktop bottom left.
 Nice @RikMills it's all looking really good
 I did a sneakey ISO rebuild before the release team locked that ability ;)
[19:06] <sgmoore> haha nic
[19:06] <sgmoore> e
 Whole team has done such an Awesome Job!! Just Fantastic
[19:07] <sgmoore> Yes, 100% pure teamwork, thank you so much everybody. You all Rock!!! Could ask for a better team.
[19:07] <sgmoore> couldn't*
[19:15] <RikMills> I agree, and appologise I have been mostly absent this cycle
[19:18] <sgmoore> RikMills: I was absent for 8 years I think, the important part is your health and happiness, you have done plenty!
[19:19] <valorie> absense is better than burnout
[19:19] <sgmoore> Still lots to do with plasma 6 coming up though, so everyone rest up!
[19:19] <valorie> we can't all be "on" all the time
[19:19] <valorie> or everywhere
[19:20] <valorie> @sgmoore are your LFNW plans all set?
[19:20] <sgmoore> nope, I learned that the hard way haha. I am happy here though. Very excited for our future.
[19:20] <valorie> sgmoore: amen to that
[19:21] <valorie> I heard nightrose at a long-ago Akademy talk about burnout
[19:21] <sgmoore> valorie: yes, I am :) had to go with best western, not for luxury, but it was a closer walk and I still have that foot burn.
[19:21] <valorie> and and a bunch of stuff started to make sense
[19:22] <sgmoore> I remember that talk well
[19:22] <valorie> I did a talk about it at a GSoC Mentor Summit, and some people were literally crying as they told their story
[19:22] <sgmoore> even shadeslayer ( Rohan ) used to get on me for over working myself on weekends etc/
[19:23] <valorie> the Google staff put off the end of the conf until people had their say
[19:23] <valorie> it is a HUGE proble
[19:23] <valorie> m
[19:23] <valorie> not just with FOSS
[19:24] <sgmoore> yes, and I am still guilty of it. Though I am better about it. I do try to avoid weekends.
[19:24] <valorie> with all volunteer work, and even some people allow it in their work-work jobs
[19:24] <valorie> it's too often seen as The American Way
[19:24] <valorie> and that's crazy
[19:24] <sgmoore> employers expect it now..
[19:25] <valorie> yes, nutty
[19:25] <sgmoore> job security has gone the way of the dodo
[19:25] <valorie> especially when the businesses are not focused on quality and service
[19:25] <valorie> but profit
[19:25] <sgmoore> this ^
[19:26] <valorie> we've gone nuts for $$
[19:26] <valorie> hopefully stuff like the Boeing travesty will show the world what that road leads to
[19:27] <sgmoore> I have gone this exact opposite in life. Ditched city life for the self sufficient homesteader life. They can have it. I am much more relaxed.
[19:27] <valorie> I want to be in groups where we nurture one another while focusing on the mission
[19:27] <valorie> like here
[19:28] <sgmoore> yes, me too
[19:28] <sgmoore> It lays the groundwork for success
[19:28] <sgmoore> happy people are productive people!
[19:29] <valorie> amen
[19:29] <valorie> I think this release will really show that
[19:30] <valorie> <3
[21:53] <mmikowski> https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/1c7e1vr/noble_numbat_release_candidate_classic_kde_3era/
[21:53] <mmikowski> Already being noticed.
[21:56] <arraybolt3> <3
[21:57] <mmikowski> Fwiw, we plan to begin offering new Kubuntu validated systems very shortly.
[22:28] <rick-timmis> That's an awesome Reddit post, So Happy!!
 very nice!
[22:53] <valorie> commented and upvoted
[22:53] <valorie> somebody want to social that?


[09:31] <K-Ryan> Then check that link out, I don't have bluetooth stuff so I don't know how good that is but most of the help files are.
[09:31] <HarleyQuine> thankye am having fun :) got my wireless card working last night
[09:31] <K-Ryan> The Linux side
[09:31] <K-Ryan> Mac, Windows, etc.
[09:31] <kilrae> ah, that side
[09:31] <kilrae> like a house of mirrors over here
[09:31] <HarleyQuine> will check out that link ubotu thanks, the link opened my html editor :) many probs to sort out
[09:31] <K-Ryan> copy and paste it into your browser =P
[09:32] <HarleyQuine> I did that already :P
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Alright then, good luck with this.
[09:32] <K-Ryan> *inexperienced with bluetooth*
[09:33] <HarleyQuine> thanks, think I need all the help I can get
[09:33] <K-Ryan> Well there's plenty in here, just might take a little bit at times.
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> !french
[09:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
 la 7.10 est stable ? - So is there a 7.10 version? 0.o
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Herdy
[09:38] <Chris_Swift> Herdy?
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Umm
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Don't ask why I thought that
[09:38] <K-Ryan> It's...
[09:38] <Chris_Swift> So what about 7.10?
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Gutsy something
[09:38] <LjL> !gutsy
[09:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:38] <K-Ryan> gutsy gibbon
[09:38] <K-Ryan> Why did I think Herdy, where did I hear that?
[09:39] <Fahuadai> where can i find the distro upgrade tool for 6.10 to 7.04. the adept updater shows me the change log after updating my packages, i click "finish" to aparently start the upgrade, but nothing happens
[09:39] <Chris_Swift> I only just downloaded Fiesty! Got it recently though
[09:39] <LjL> K-Ryan: feisty alpha CDs were called herds
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Ah
[09:39] <K-Ryan> That would do it
[09:39] <zorglu_> q. i would like to open a given window (e.g. konsole/xterm) on a particular 'workspace', is there any command line option for that ? something similar to -geometry
[09:39] <lupul> can anyone tell please the packages i have to install in order to be able to install nvidia driver for g force mx 440?
[09:40] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | lupul
[09:40] <ubotu> lupul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <lupul> i already tried that
[09:40] <lupul> useless
[09:40] <K-Ryan> You sure?
[09:40] <lupul> yep
[09:40] <lupul> i did 3 times ago
[09:40] <lupul> but now i just can't do it
[09:40] <K-Ryan> What version of Kubuntu are you on?
[09:41] <lupul> feisty
[09:41] <lupul> does it matter that this time i made it on reiser in stead of ext3?
[09:41] <lupul> dont think so
[09:41] <K-Ryan> No experience with reiser so I couldn't honestly say.
[09:42] <lupul> ok
[09:42] <zorglu_> no relation between the fs and the graphic driver
[09:42] <K-Ryan> you got the package nvidia-glx?
[09:42] <lupul> legacy
[09:42] <lupul> but before i installed the driver from nvidia
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Do you need the legacy version?
[09:42] <lupul> the .run package
[09:42] <lupul> yes
[09:43] <K-Ryan> According to the help file
[09:43] <K-Ryan> No, you don't
[09:43] <lupul> glx doesn't work
[09:43] <lupul> only legacy
[09:44] <Chris_Swift> Anyone here knows how to apply a Beryl theme?
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Err, no I lied, read that wrong.
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:44] <K-Ryan> Chris_Swift #ubuntu-effects
[09:44] <K-Ryan> One sec lupul I'm searching for ya'
[09:44] <lupul> ok
[09:44] <lupul> thanks
[09:45] <K-Ryan> Np
[09:46] <K-Ryan> lupul open up your terminal and throw in lspci | grep -i nvidia
[09:46] <lupul> ok
[09:46] <lupul> then?
[09:46] <K-Ryan> Sorry, what did it say?
[09:46] <lupul> look above
[09:47] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[09:49] <lupul> i have to restart
[09:50] <HarleyQuine> I love ubuntu.. the bluetooth was all working fine.. I just didn't know how to use it :D
[09:50] <K-Ryan> So it works?
[09:50] <minty> hey
[09:50] <K-Ryan> Hi there minty
[09:50] <HarleyQuine> yup, I followed the terminal instructions on that webpage and saw that it already found my phone so it was working
[09:51] <minty> can sum1 tell me how to mount my windows directory
[09:51] <K-Ryan> Ah, there you go. If you need anything else feel free to ask.
[09:51] <K-Ryan> minty by default it should automatically be mounted.
[09:51] <HarleyQuine> thanks :) no doubt I'll have a zillion more questions later on
[09:51] <K-Ryan> HarleyQuine we all did, I know I sure did. I still do sometimes...
[09:51] <HarleyQuine> oh wait that's another one I have to ask, my windows partition can't be mounted
[09:51] <minty> it isnt thought
[09:52] <minty> though*
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Not showing up in /media, hmm.
[09:52] <minty> my m8 mounted my last 1
[09:52] <minty> but need 2 mount this 1
[09:52] <K-Ryan> There's a command for it, but I'm not sure of it. Let's try this...
[09:52] <K-Ryan> !mount
[09:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:52] <K-Ryan> !mounting
[09:52] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:53] <K-Ryan> !diskmounter
[09:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Ah, there we go
[09:53] <HarleyQuine> inaccessable
[09:54] <K-Ryan> Works for me
[09:54] <K-Ryan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:54] <jwideman> Trying to turn on the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work.
[09:54] <HarleyQuine> could it be that there's no free space left in that other partition?
[09:54] <jwideman> Trying to configure, I should say
[09:54] <K-Ryan> It would still show it Harley.
[09:54] <HarleyQuine> oh sorry.. yes it shows it, but when I click enable it says 'inaccessable'
[09:55] <K-Ryan> OH!
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Is it NTFS?
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> emmmm lol no virtual fat is says here
[09:55] <K-Ryan> NTFS partitions aren't compatible with linux.
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> it's windows xp
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Virtual FAT?
[09:55] <HarleyQuine> yup it says windows vfat
[09:55] <K-Ryan> I'm pretty sure FAT and FAT32 file systems are compatible.
[09:56] <K-Ryan> I've never heard of a virtual one though.
[09:56] <K-Ryan> !vfat
[09:56] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:56] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I'll take a look.
[09:56] <jwideman> xp uses vfat - it's basicalrly fat32 i think
[09:56] <HarleyQuine> aye, cos I didn't change the file system to ntfs
[09:56] <K-Ryan> Yeah it says its Fat32 but the Linux type is vfat
[09:57] <K-Ryan> So, can you look around in it at all?
[09:57] <K-Ryan> View the files, etc.
[09:57] <HarleyQuine> nope nothing, it won't mount at all
[09:57] <lupul> back
[09:57] <lupul> anything for me?
[09:57] <HarleyQuine> not that I really need to get in there.. but itd be nice to transfer my old files
[09:57] <K-Ryan> Then where were you trying to open it HarleyQuine?
[09:57] <K-Ryan> Sorry lupul not really.
[09:58] <lupul> ok
[09:58] <lupul> thanks anyway
[09:58] <K-Ryan> All I can recommend is asking around here and maybe run through the help file again.
[09:58] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> places > computer, and the status in discs manager says inaccessable
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> I also tried mounting it from the terminal
[09:58] <K-Ryan> But to no avail?
[09:58] <HarleyQuine> nope
[09:58] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:58] <jwideman> You using dual boot, Harley?
[09:59] <HarleyQuine> it does say in disks manager 'no free space left' so I thought maybe that might do something, yes dual boot
[09:59] <K-Ryan> I use one, so it's not that.
[09:59] <jwideman> can you boot into windows?
[09:59] <HarleyQuine> yup, if I must ;)
[09:59] <K-Ryan> You already caught on =)
[10:00] <jwideman> is it a large drive in an older computer?
[10:01] <HarleyQuine> nope 60gig in a new laptop
[10:01] <K-Ryan> I'll be back in a few minutes. Good luck with this Harley.
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> thanks :)
[10:02] <jwideman> what laptop is it?
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> I dunno if this makes any difference but in disks manager the access point for that partition is none but when I go to see it only has the linux filesystem
[10:02] <HarleyQuine> acer aspire
[10:05] <jwideman> i was thinking it might be the laptop doing something weird with the drive, but that seems unlikely
[10:05] <tuco> premier?
[10:05] <HarleyQuine> yah, I did clear out all the weird acer partitions and did a fresh install when I first got the thing
[10:05] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[10:05] <HarleyQuine> I like all my space to be somewhere I can see them
[10:06] <tuco> or else really. I need to install ati drivers and configure them for my laptop please>
[10:06] <jwideman> the acer partitions are for system restore afaik
[10:06] <tuco> ati x1400-resolution 1280x800
[10:06] <HarleyQuine> yah but I do my own backups anyway so I don't bother with all that new-fangled nonsense :D
[10:07] <Fahuadai> i have an acer. i deleted my system restore partition when i installed ubuntu. not had any problems
[10:07] <alphonse> salut
[10:07] <jwideman> i've never used system restore  - nothing like restoring a virus to ruin your day
[10:07] <alphonse> bonjour
[10:07] <alphonse> y a des francais?
[10:07] <HarleyQuine> I've never managed to even catch a computer virus
[10:07] <tuco> If you need help Alphnonse it's gonna be in English I am afraid
[10:07] <HarleyQuine> I wonder whether that's cos I'm so boring, or whether my virus proggie is so rubbish
[10:08] <kivi> guys i have a problem!...
[10:08] <kivi> i have ubuntu feisty, and i want to install new themes...
[10:08] <bunchy> bonjour
[10:08] <kivi> but when i donwload them
[10:08] <kivi> it says unknow format
[10:08] <kivi> they have *theme extension...
[10:08] <kivi> how do a fix this?
[10:08] <jwideman> Where did you get them, Kiwi?
[10:08] <bunchy> ok
[10:09] <tuco> In the meantime I need help for my ATi drivers folks.
[10:09] <kivi> on gnome look
[10:09] <kivi> :)
[10:09] <kivi> i have downloaded the MAC OS X theme
[10:09] <bunchy> lol
[10:09] <kivi> so... this is strange
[10:09] <bunchy> pas de francais?
[10:09] <kivi> anyone can help?
[10:09] <Fahuadai> did someone say mac? :O :P
[10:10] <kivi> :)))
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Essais #ubuntu-fr
[10:10] <kivi> well... its just a theme i want to install
[10:10] <Fahuadai> hehe. each to his own bud.
[10:10] <bunchy> non
[10:10] <bunchy> moi j ai kubuntu
[10:10] <bunchy> pas ,ubuntu
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: On s'en fou..
[10:10] <TheDebugger> bunchy: C'est quoi le prob alors?
[10:10] <bunchy> mais
[10:10] <bunchy> ta meer toi
[10:10] <bunchy> encule
[10:10] <jwideman> Trying to configure  the print server in system settings (feisty) and it asks for a username/password. However, my username/password doesn't work. What's going on?
[10:11] <bunchy> pj tu gaze?
[10:11] <tuco> No swearing here please bunchy!
[10:11] <bunchy> koi toi pedal
[10:11] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Va voir ta maman, elle t'appelle mon petit bebe
[10:11] <etrange> chut bunchy
[10:11] <lupul> !nvidia
[10:11] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Tu veux un ti-bec?
[10:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:11] <bunchy> parle bien
[10:11] <tuco> Ati drivers anyone please?
[10:11] <bunchy> aprs je parlerai bien
[10:12] <etrange> bunchy tu veut un ptit cours d'informatik ?
[10:12] <bunchy> non
[10:12] <Fahuadai> kivi: where'd you download the theme from? kde-look ?
[10:12] <bunchy> j suis la juste pour
[10:12] <bunchy> comme sa
[10:12] <TheDebugger> etrange: C'est plus un cours de savoir-vivre qu'il aurait besoin
[10:12] <kivi> from here
[10:12] <kivi> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:12] <kivi> f
[10:12] <bunchy> ta besoin d aide toi?
[10:12] <kivi> :)
[10:12] <bunchy> j suis la si tu veu
[10:13] <bunchy> ah
[10:13] <TheDebugger> bunchy: Si tu te sens riche, tu pourrais me donner de l'argent
[10:13] <bunchy> tu arrive pas a lire les dvd c sa?
[10:13] <Fahuadai> .rc file extension?
[10:13] <bunchy> vous avez 1 probleme?
[10:13] <kivi> no
[10:13] <jwideman> wouldn't it be more useful to ask in #ubuntu?
[10:13] <bunchy> j suis nouveau ici
[10:13] <kivi> .theme file extension
[10:13] <kivi> :)
[10:13] <bunchy> acueulle moi avec du respect
[10:14] <tuco> alors mets la en veilleuse et apprend sac a merde tu nous saoules!
[10:14] <TheDebugger> bunchy: C'est ce qu'on a fait, on t'a demander le probleme que tu as.. et tu nous a presque envoyer promener
[10:14] <bunchy> ba desole alor
[10:14] <bunchy> j ai mal compri
[10:15] <etrange> bunchy tu insulte pas les gens et tu apprend le francais
[10:15] <bunchy> j ai di desole
[10:15] <tuco> c'est clair
[10:15] <bunchy> ^^
[10:15] <etrange> je m'en fout moi jte dis juste ce qui cloche
[10:15] <bunchy> lol
[10:15] <bunchy> ok
[10:15] <andre_moraes> problems to make java work on Kubuntu 6.01
[10:15] <tuco> etrange/debugger?
[10:15] <andre_moraes> someone could help
[10:15] <etrange> tuco ?
[10:16] <bunchy> y a pas mal d etrange ici
[10:16] <bunchy> sa parle de toute les langue
[10:16] <tuco> j'ai besoin d'aide pour installer mes pilotes ATI et les configurer!
[10:16] <bunchy> c marent
[10:16] <TheDebugger> bunchy: En principe, c'est un salon anglais :P
[10:16] <bunchy> ah
[10:16] <bunchy> ok
[10:16] <TheDebugger> #kubuntu-fr serait le salon francais
[10:17] <etrange> bunchy je te donne le sallon francais si tu est sage
[10:17] <etrange> arg
[10:17] <bunchy> pk vous y eteb pas?
[10:17] <tuco> parce qe'on est bien la tu vois!
[10:17] <bunchy> pk vous ete la si il y a 1 francais?
[10:17] <bunchy> moi aussi
[10:17] <tuco> je crois qu'on a notre champion du monde la!
[10:17] <bunchy> lol
[10:18] <bunchy> j reste ici
[10:18] <bunchy> c tout
[10:18] <TheDebugger> bunchy: parce qu'il n'y a pas beaucoup de monde.. et comme je comprends l'anglais aussi
[10:18] <tuco> etrange/bebugger? Ati rien :-)?
[10:18] <bunchy> ah ok
[10:18] <bunchy> c koi le site?
[10:18] <bunchy> j vais allez voir
[10:18] <etrange> tuco wich distrib ?
[10:18] <tuco> Kubuntu KDE
[10:19] <etrange> wich one the last fiesty ?
[10:19] <tuco> Yes
[10:19] <bunchy> merci
[10:19] <etrange> like that
[10:19] <bunchy> bon a +
[10:19] <tuco> la porte en sortant stp!
[10:19] <LjL> !fr
[10:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:19] <etrange> I do not remember but it was realy easy
[10:19] <etrange> !ati
[10:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <tuco> I did it just one hour ago and it was ago until I decided to choose fglrx!
[10:20] <etrange> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati
[10:21] <etrange> Sous Kubuntu "Menu K" > "Rglage du systme" > "Monitor & display" > [Onglet Matriel]  > [bouton "Configurer"]
[10:22] <tuco> Ok let me install the drivers first
[10:22] <kadaffe> a
[10:22] <kadaffe> hello
[10:22] <tuco> what is the nest step once I installed the drivers?
[10:22] <tuco> next sorry
[10:24] <tuco> ok drivers installed.
[10:25] <tuco> What do I need to do now?
[10:25] <cucaracha> hola a todos... Alguien sabe como capturar con una placa ENLTV?
[10:28] <ubuntu> hi
[10:28] <tuco> please guys...:-(
[10:33] <Kr4t05> K3b is giving me some hairy issues with my new DVD-RW drive.
[10:34] <vecina> cn anyone offer me any explanation whatsoever as to why i have to aptitude reinstall dbus, hal and pal every time i log in in order to automount drives and play 3d graphics without a crash?
[10:36] <gonzalo> hola como tamos
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I have a brand new Lite-On DVD+/-RW drive that I just added to my computer... I'm trying to burn a new DVD backup of my music collection, and I can't get it to detect the DVD in the drive. When I go the the Settings dialog, the device shows up, but it doesn't want to see the DVD.
[10:46] <Kr4t05> Any help?
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I'm using K3b, of course.
[10:47] <Kr4t05> DMA enabled, etc.
[10:47] <strabes> a shot in the dark, but have you run k3b as root?
[10:47] <Lectus> Hello
[10:47] <Kr4t05> strabes: No, but it could be worth a shot.
[10:47] <Lectus> I just installed kubuntu.  How do you do it?
[10:50] <tuco> Please guys I really need to get the ATI stuff done please!
[10:50] <Kr4t05> strabes: I was about to say, I've burnt tons of CD-RW with my last burner as root.
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> strabes: i launch it :)
[10:50] <Kr4t05> as !root&
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> it just works
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using k3b from the repos?
[10:50] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: doesn't for me. oh well.
[10:50] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: yeah the one that comes with kubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that's weird
[10:51] <strabes> w/e
[10:51] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Well, do you have any idea why my new burner would be all silly?
[10:51] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Perhaps I need a package like libdvdwrite?
[10:52] <tuco> NO ATI gurus here tonight?
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: just a garden-variety dvd-r/+r?
[10:52] <Kr4t05> Lite-On
[10:52] <Kr4t05> Yeah.
[10:52] <Kr4t05> DVD+/-RW
[10:52] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: best piece of advice you'll get from anyone talking about ATI.  if you use linux, don't use ATI.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: was referring to the disc, actually :)
[10:53] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: That too. Maxell 4.7GB DVD-RW
[10:53] <tuco> Well it's a laptop mate so I have to deal with it.
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> tuco: ooh >_<
[10:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sorry
[10:53] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Mounts fine.
[10:54] <Kr4t05> tuco: You
[10:54] <pascal> is there any way I can do adhoc wifi in Kubuntu?
[10:54] <Kr4t05> tuco: Looks like you need to right a friendly letter to ATI.
[10:54] <tuco> I just installed the drivers...I need to configure xorg and all
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> do standard dvd-r's work at all?
[10:54] <tuco> Well next time it is nvidia for me...for sure
[10:54] <Daisuke_Ido> or even cd-r's for that matter
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ati's promising to fix their open source drivers
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> take that back
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ati's promising to fix their DRIVERS.
[10:55] <Daisuke_Ido> they'll never open them
[10:56] <tuco> Some people helped me in the past, I just need to configure xorg so 1280x800 works properly
[10:56] <Daisuke_Ido> add those resolutions to the proper screen section?
[10:56] <strabes> tuco: first thing to try is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: It detects CD-RW
[10:57] <tuco> after drivers install?
[10:57] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: fglrx will never be open, but did you say they're going to "fix" them? Meaning add composite support?
[10:57] <strabes> tuco: yes
[10:57] <tuco> ok
[10:57] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: where did you read that? i must know
[10:57] <tuco> done
[10:57] <tuco> what else strabes?
[10:58] <Kr4t05> tuco: Restart X
[10:58] <strabes> tuco: now restart your X server with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:58] <strabes> tuco: or ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:58] <Kr4t05> tuco: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACe
[10:58] <Kr4t05> :)
[10:58] <tuco> hold on I have this:
[10:58] <strabes> or if you're using KDE replace gdm with kdm
[10:58] <strabes> flood coming
[10:58] <strabes> wait for it....
[10:58] <Daisuke_Ido> strabes: it was the speaker for ATI at red hat summit
[10:59] <strabes> Daisuke_Ido: snap. i'll have to look that up.
[10:59] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20250/
[10:59] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: This is "good" news... But, I'll believe it when I see results. :P
[10:59] <strabes> ya rly
[10:59] <Kr4t05> I've never really liked ATI, TBH
[10:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: same here, they promise this from time to time
[11:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been an nvidia fan since my beloved TNT2 was current
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: They sound like another company we know of. :P
[11:00] <tuco> So what do I need to do then?
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Making promises and saying "Oops, something
[11:00] <Kr4t05> has come up.
[11:00] <Kr4t05> "*
[11:00] <Kr4t05> ><
[11:00] <Kr4t05> Darn enter key.
[11:00] <strabes> Kr4t05: somehow I don't doubt that will happen
[11:00] <Kr4t05> buffer underrun error... ><
[11:01] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, they promise the moon and then say "oh, crap, we can't deliver winfs!"
[11:01] <strabes> tuco: it's "xserver-xorg" not "xserver-xor"
[11:01] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: This isn't good..."
[11:01] <strabes> tuco: you forgot the "g"
[11:01] <tuco> damn me sorry
[11:01] <strabes> lol
[11:01] <tuco> ahhhhhhhhhh ok
[11:01] <tuco> and now?
[11:01] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[11:02] <tuco> I look for fglrx right?
[11:02] <strabes> tuco: only if you have an ATI card that doesn't support the radeon driver
[11:02] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: Would it be at all likely that I would need to re-install for a proper detection of this thing?
[11:02] <tuco> HUh!
[11:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Kr4t05: i wouldn't think so
[11:03] <strabes> tuco: do you have an ati card?
[11:03] <tuco> I have installed the drivers...yes I do!
[11:03] <tuco> x1400
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> buffer underrun...
[11:03] <tuco> mobility
[11:03] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not pleasant
[11:03] <strabes> tuco: that's the exact same card as I have. Have you installed  fglrx yet? That's ati's proprietary driver. it's the only one that works with our cards.
[11:04] <tuco> All I did so far Strabes is to download and install fglrx from adept
[11:04] <Daisuke_Ido> uh-oh
[11:05] <strabes> tuco: follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?action=show&redirect=BinaryDriverHowto%2Fati
[11:05] <strabes> tuco: then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i just watched the intro to the atlantis season finale.  be back in 38 minutes (i know that's off topic, but...  replicators!)
[11:06] <tuco> I followed it earlier and this is where things messed up!
[11:06] <strabes> tuco: I know. you have to run the dpkg-reconfigure thing
[11:06] <strabes> tuco: it's a bug with feisty
[11:06] <tuco> Nice!
[11:06] <strabes> ubuntu needs to drop this "no proprietary software" thing
[11:07] <LjL> err...
[11:07] <tuco> so fglrx installed...and what?
[11:07] <tuco> and just that: select "ATI accelerated graphics driver"
[11:07] <strabes> tuco: if running the dpkg-reconfigure command doesn't fix your problem, switch to a virtual terminal using ctrl+alt+f2 and run it again. this time select "ati" as your video driver. that way you'll at least be able to get into X, albeit with a bad resolution
[11:08] <tuco> honestly mate I am lost now
[11:08] <tuco> You have the same card...can you just guide me here to configure the thing?
[11:08] <strabes> tuco: did you install fglrx yet
[11:08] <tuco> yes
[11:08] <strabes> open a terminal and run this command
[11:09] <strabes> just copy and paste it in there
[11:09] <strabes> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo depmod -a && sudo aticonfig --initial && sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[11:09] <K`zan> Got a problem with a handicapped friend I just got to use firefox, under mozilla (and about anywhere else) she could hightlight something using the left button and paste it elsewhere using the middle button, that isn't working in firefox.  Any suggestions most appreciated!  TMIA!
[11:09] <dac_> jisao,hi
[11:09] <K`zan> google has been less than helpful trying to figure this out...
[11:10] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20251/
[11:10] <strabes> tuco: excellent. you're using KDE right?
[11:10] <dac_> jisao, how do you #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <K`zan> First and third buttons work, but with her handicap that is very VERY difficult :-(.
[11:11] <tuco> yes sir
[11:12] <strabes> tuco: Now run this command to open your xorg.conf in a text editor: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:12] <aldin> hi how can i take screenshot of movie, al i have is black windows if i screenshot it?
[11:12] <tuco> done
[11:12] <strabes> tuco: now add these lines to the bottom of it and save and close it:
[11:13] <dac_> never mind
[11:13] <strabes> tuco:
[11:13] <strabes> Section "Extensions"
[11:13] <strabes>         Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:13] <strabes> EndSection
[11:13] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: I'm searching the forums for a fix, right now...
[11:13] <Kr4t05> along with google.com/linux
[11:14] <aldin> i tried vlc kaffeine mplayer same... i take screenshot all other is captured but the movie not it is blank/black
[11:14] <tuco> done
[11:15] <premier_> can I have grub boot operating systems (ie windows) from hard drives other than the primary hard drive?
[11:16] <tuco> Strabes?
[11:16] <strabes> tuco: what
[11:16] <tuco> what else mate?
[11:17] <tuco> I saved it ansd closed it
[11:17] <strabes> tuco: ok now run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <strabes> tuco: choose the defaults except for the video driver part. select fglrx for that. and make sure you select the correct resolution also.
[11:18] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20256/
[11:19] <strabes> tuco: restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace. if it breaks, run the dpkg-reconfigure command and then when you're done run 'startx" you might want to write those down
[11:20] <kim> zomg
[11:20] <tuco> hold on..if it breaks what do I do Strabes?
[11:20] <strabes> tuco: i just told you
[11:20] <Kr4t05> What's the typical filesystem type for a DVD? iso**** or something?
[11:20] <tuco> but where mate...
[11:20] <strabes> switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+f2
[11:20] <tuco> ok
[11:21] <tuco> if I can launch Kubuntu where do I go?
[11:21] <tuco> like before...
[11:21] <drkns> hello
[11:22] <tuco> virtual terminal is that right?
[11:22] <tuco> can't launch sorry
[11:22] <drkns> i need help
[11:22] <Lennings> Hm, i just found this IRC thing in the kmenu... Just started using kubuntu 7.04 festy, and i was woundering if anybody know a good capture program? Im using beryl and ive realy configured it right... And i would like to upload the video on youtube :P
[11:22] <drkns> i set up my wireless card with ndiswrapper
[11:22] <drkns> its a bcm43xx card
[11:23] <drkns> it light up when i modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:23] <Kr4t05> Lennings: xvidcap, perhaps
[11:23] <drkns> and scanns and finds my AP as well but i cannot register to AP
[11:23] <Lennings> thx, recordmydesktop is not working very well for me..
[11:24] <drkns> any help??
[11:24] <Unix_Jihad> ive never found any of the linux screen recorders very good, unfortunately
[11:24] <Lennings> What is this channel for anyway? i dont wanna talk about something... Thats not allowed
[11:24] <Lectus> How can I update my kubuntu 6.06 to the latest?
[11:24] <Tailsfan> Hello, Is there a way to boot the Kubuntu CD Faster?
[11:24] <strabes> Lennings: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for :)
[11:25] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: I figured it out.
[11:25] <Lennings> phew :P
[11:25] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: My DVD-RW wasn't big enough for my project. :P
[11:25] <Lennings> Well, first i just wanna tell everybody how much i love kubuntu... and beryl :P
[11:26] <drkns> bye all
[11:26] <Tailsfan> Cool Lennings, now if only Kubuntu can load for me
[11:26] <Lennings> I must sound kinda cheezy
[11:26] <Tailsfan> You're Not
[11:26] <Lennings> tailsfan: sup with your kde?
[11:26] <strabes> Lectus: get a feisty sources.list and update and dist-upgrade
[11:26] <Lennings> kubuntu
[11:27] <Tailsfan> No, It's teh disk, I was wondering if I make it load faster
[11:27] <Kr4t05> Daisuke_Ido: It works! :) Thanks for the help.
[11:27] <Lennings> ah
[11:27] <Tailsfan> and it's one of teh Shipit Disks, just got it today
[11:28] <Lennings> I love kubuntu but its hard to learn and understand on your own. : / Im only 14 and i dont understand english that well :P
[11:28] <Lennings> Anyone know overkordbaever?
[11:29] <Tailsfan> No I Don't
[11:29] <Lennings> he gave me this kubuntu cd, but he wont help me understand
[11:29] <pitecantropus> you can try to find kubuntu in your language
[11:29] <CalZing> anyone have any recommendations regarding sound cards... I want to have a sound card that works really good with alsa, jack, sdl and mor
[11:29] <Lennings> Swedish? the translation sucks :S
[11:30] <pitecantropus> but it`s a starting point :)
[11:30] <Lennings> Hm
[11:30] <xst> As far as I can see there doesn't seem to be much bug fixing activity by the Ubuntu Audio Team. Most bug have few or no comments from developers. Is all audio bug fixing in Feisty stalled?
[11:31] <pitecantropus> what means overkordbaever?
[11:31] <Lennings> Hehe
[11:32] <dac_> sound doesn't work onthis box
[11:32] <Lennings> Em, thats when a car... drives over a bever!
[11:32] <Lennings> adept cant find any xvidcap : /
[11:32] <Lennings> apt-get?
[11:32] <nixternal> CalZing: soundblaster cards pretty much work with everything and anything you throw at them
[11:32] <CalZing> what sound cards do you have? I would like to know a good sound card to purchase because my current onboard sound is not very well supported, plus I want a MIDI port
[11:33] <Lennings> d2?
[11:33] <CalZing> i have a soundblaster audigy ls now and the input (mic/line) is not available in the mixer
[11:33] <Lennings> Anyone use recordmydesktop?
[11:33] <CalZing> but is there any particular manifacturer that is known to have good linux support?
[11:33] <Lennings> I cant get the sound working
[11:34] <crimsun> CalZing: make sure it's actually available.  Does amixer show capture elements?
[11:36] <Lennings> When i try to capture my desktop with sound... RecordMyDesktop says: Could not open/configure sound card... and when i open the options there is a DEVISE:_______ What goes there?
[11:36] <CalZing> the thing is I will buy a new sound card anyway... There are some good features that are not supported in the CA0106 driver like digital input and more
[11:36] <Lennings> Devise? is that kmix? or my soundcard :S
[11:37] <CalZing> I've used ubuntu for a while and I would like to start making music with muse and rosegarden, so that's why i would appreciate a good hardware advice
[11:37] <Lennings> ..
[11:38] <Lennings> Anyone know how to reinstall kopete?   I had my machine set up to allow only a pgp key to be used to login over the internet to my machine via pgp and now I can't remember how I did it or where to find the instructions I followed.
[11:49] <ubuntu> delete /home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[11:49] <InteSnelHest> done
[11:49] <InteSnelHest> and ive reinstalled kopete too
[11:52] <InteSnelHest> How do i find other channels to chat in?
[11:59] <alexis> bonsoir
[12:00] <CalZing> anyone have good soundcard recommendations?
[12:02] <TheDebugger> Alexis: Bonsoir
[12:03] <Alexis> with k3b, i have reading problem when i try to backup a dvd-r to another dvd-r
[12:04] <Alexis> hdparm seem be activated
[12:04] <Alexis> and i dont have probleme to play dvd
[12:05] <Alexis> prob in my fstab?
[12:06] <InteSnelHest> my soundcard is... Hmm, ati abi ATA something :P
[12:06] <InteSnelHest> its good :P


[10:12] <AlexExtreme> oops
[03:53] <asdaf> hello, I have a question, is there any way to prevent script stanzas to be executed by a shell with -e option?
[04:02] <ion_> Why would you not want -e?
[04:02] <AlexExtreme> you can easily prevent the script from terminating if a certain command fails by putting || true after the command
[04:04] <asdaf> ion_, sometimes is a bit constraining
[04:05] <asdaf> you may want to let something fail ignoring the failure
 you can easily prevent the script from terminating if a certain command fails by putting || true after the command
[04:05] <AlexExtreme> you can ^^
[04:05] <asdaf> AlexExtreme, that's what I'm doing
[04:06] <asdaf> but it's not very elegant to put a lot of ||true  in the scripts :)
[04:06] <asdaf> I agree -e should be the normal behaviour
[04:06] <asdaf> but I think it may be useful to have a way to switch off this option
[04:07] <asdaf> say an option in the job description
[04:07] <AlexExtreme> or do like this:
[04:08] <AlexExtreme> pre-start script nofail
[04:08] <AlexExtreme>    blah
[04:08] <AlexExtreme> end script
[04:08] <asdaf> Is this an already implemented option?
[04:09] <AlexExtreme> no, i'm saying an example of how it could be implemented :)
[04:09] <AlexExtreme> if it were implemented i would have told you in the first place :)
[04:09] <asdaf> AlexExtreme, ok :) this would be nice
[04:10] <Keybuk> why not just put "set +e" at the top of the script?
[04:10] <Keybuk> pre-start script
[04:10] <Keybuk>     set +e
[04:10] <Keybuk>     # broken stuff
[04:10] <Keybuk> end script
[04:10] <AlexExtreme> hmm. that's a point
[04:11] <AlexExtreme> i'm forgetful sometimes ;)
[04:26] <asdaf> Keybuk, right, that's the easiest way :)
[04:27] <asdaf> but i like the syntax AlexExtreme proposed :)
[04:27] <AlexExtreme> well, if there's a way to do it already a new syntax would be pointless
[04:32] <asdaf> AlexExtreme, it's just semantic sugar, but maybe putting it into the script declaration would be more explicit
[04:33] <AlexExtreme> maybe
[04:34] <Keybuk> I don't really see the need for the semantic sugar
[04:34] <Keybuk> -e is a sensible default, and sh gives you a mechanism to turn it off
[04:36] <rgl> hi
[04:37] <rgl> on ubuntu edgy upstart is not installed by default?
[04:38] <AlexExtreme> it is
[04:39] <rgl> mine is not :|
[04:39] <rgl> I've upgraded from previous version.
[04:39] <AlexExtreme> did you upgrade from an older version?
[04:39] <AlexExtreme> ah
[04:39] <rgl> oh, but I did an aptget update, and now it wants to install upstart
[04:56] <Keybuk> the Ubuntu release notes recommend the dist-upgrader tool over apt-get
[04:56] <Keybuk> what's happened is APT has refused to remove the previously Essential sysvinit
[04:56] <Keybuk> without taking into account that sysvinit is no longer Essential, and has been replaced by Upstart
[05:19] <rgl> oh, I see.
[05:19] <rgl> why is the need for anther tool? :|
[05:21] <rgl> humm, but after this apt-get dist-upgrade, the sysvinit was removed, and replaced with upstart.
[05:22] <rgl> humm, not when I do an "apt-get install" it says: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 29 not upgraded.
[05:23] <rgl> but how can I see the "29 not upgraded"?
[05:24] <rgl> how, they show up when I do: apt-get -s dist-upgrade ...
[05:25] <rgl> how can I see the reason for holding back a package?   the 29 packages are all python-* ones
[07:30] <rgl> is there a upstart manual?  some place that shows what events are availble?
[07:30] <Keybuk> any event you emit with initctl is available
[07:32] <rgl> but where are the standard ones defined?
[07:34] <Keybuk> they aren't at this point
[07:34] <Keybuk> Upstart is still in development, as are the sets of "standard" events
[07:35] <rgl> oh ok.
[07:36] <rgl> the "restart" stanza restarts the daemon if it dies, correct?   and "exec" only starts it once?
[07:36] <AlexExtreme> it's respawn
[07:37] <rgl> oh yes.  "respawn", my bad hehe
[07:38] <Keybuk> you shouldn't use "respawn SOMETHING"
[07:38] <Keybuk> use
[07:38] <Keybuk> respawn
[07:38] <Keybuk> exec /sbin/daemon
[07:38] <Keybuk> --
[07:38] <Keybuk> otherwise you'll be bitten when you upgrade to 0.3.x (which only permits respawn on its own line0
[07:39] <rgl> Keybuk, oh, I saw the respawn line on "logd", and it has no exec :|
[07:39] <Keybuk> sure, because the same file in 0.3.x has two lines
[07:42] <rgl> how can I do this: have a "php-fastcgi" service that does nothing (it just emits the "php-fastcgi" event) and have several "php-fascgi-1", "php-fascgi-2", etc, that are started/stop when ""php-fascgi" is started/stoped?
[07:43] <rgl> I can just "exec /bin/true" on "php-fastcgi", and "start on php-fastcgi" on the "php-fastcgi-N"?
[07:47] <Keybuk> why do you want to do that?
[07:49] <rgl> I want to start several PHP FastCGI instances without having to start each one by hand.
[07:50] <esr> Keybuk: Sounds like you're an upstart core dev.
[07:50] <rgl> I mean, I want to "start php-fcgi" and let upstart do a "start php-fcgi-N" for all the PHP FastCGI instances I've defined.
[07:51] <Keybuk> are the instances different in configuration?
[07:51] <Keybuk> esr: s/an/the/ :-)
[07:51] <rgl> Keybuk, they are.  each one open a different unix domain socket.
[07:53] <Keybuk> ok; yeah you could do pretty much what you describe
[07:53] <Keybuk> though the exec /bin/true would terminate and you couldn't stop them with the same command
[07:53] <rgl> how? :)
[07:53] <rgl> yeah, I've did that.  and it just fails to start the other PHP instances *G*
[07:53] <Keybuk> you're using 0.2.7?
[07:54] <rgl> the alternative was to have a master one, but if that master dies for some reason, it will brong the other instances down, and then up again.  which is not good :(
[07:54] <rgl> Keybuk, yes.  0.2.7 on edgy.
[07:54] <Keybuk> try start on php-fastcgi/started
[07:55] <Keybuk> there's an interesting use case for instances here
[07:58] <rgl> Keybuk, like http://pastie.caboo.se/66161  ?
[07:58] <Keybuk> yes, though it'll stop pretty quick
[07:58] <Keybuk> since "/bin/true" doesn't last long
[07:58] <rgl> yeah.  so, no good
[08:00] <rgl> I would be nice to have "virtual" services, that is, a service with no "exec" is a "virtual" service;  when you "start" a virtual service it just "remebers" it is started, and so on.
[08:00] <AlexExtreme> if you use 0.3 you can simply define a job without any exec for the main job iirc
[08:00] <Keybuk> rgl: we have those ;-)
[08:00] <rgl> ah cool :) :)
[08:00] <Keybuk> oh
[08:00] <Keybuk> random bug on your paste
[08:00] <Keybuk> you need "runlevel-2" and "runlevel-1"
[08:01] <rgl> Keybuk, oh, thats a bug on the wiki page then! *G*
[08:01] <Keybuk> the wiki documents 0.3.8
[08:01] <rgl> actually, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[08:02] <rgl> is there a backport of 0.3.8 to edgy?  or I can just recompile, and go with it?
[08:02] <AlexExtreme> you'd be better off upgrading to feisty IMO
[08:02] <Keybuk> you can probably just download the packages from feisty and install them
[08:02] <Keybuk> (YMMV, NUSPIS, WVIR)
[08:02] <rgl> AlexExtreme, I can't right now.
[08:05] <rgl> can I go away with just upgrading the upstart package?  or do I have to upgrade all upstart-* ?
[08:05] <Keybuk> all
[08:05] <Keybuk> upstart, upstart-compat-sysv, system-services, startup-tasks, etc.
[08:08] <rgl> "etc" is "upstart-logd"? :)
[08:09] <Keybuk> right
[08:09] <Keybuk>     instance
[08:10] <Keybuk>     for file-exists /etc/event.d/php-fcgi-*
[08:10] <Keybuk> (err, /var/run/php/fcgi.*)
[08:10] <Keybuk>     exec /usr/bin/php5-cgi -b $FILE
[08:10] <Keybuk> bit sticky, but that might work in 0.5
[08:13] <rgl> oh:
[08:13] <rgl> dpkg: regarding upstart_0.3.8-1_i386.deb containing upstart, pre-dependency problem:
[08:13] <rgl>  upstart pre-depends on libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1)
[08:13] <rgl>   libc6 is installed, but is version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3.
[08:13] <Keybuk> oh
[08:13] <Keybuk> meh, you'd have to rebuild then
[08:13] <Keybuk> crappy packaging system
[08:13] <rgl> but the damn think installated the other packages ... oh oh
[08:14] <Keybuk> you should find packages to downgrade to in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:14] <Keybuk> if not, download them again
[08:14] <AlexExtreme> dpkg is crappy or just the dependencies? ;)
[08:14] <Keybuk> AlexExtreme: both :p
[08:14] <AlexExtreme> :)
[08:14] <Keybuk> actjal,
[08:14] <Keybuk> actually
[08:14] <Keybuk> dpkg is crappy
[08:14] <Keybuk> since the packages *do* have dependencies, that doesn't stop dpkg from overwriting the old ones though
[08:15] <rgl> Keybuk, what do you mean with "0.5"?
[08:15] <Keybuk> rgl: 0.5 is the version of upstart I'm working towards at the moment; it has a few interesting features
[08:16] <esr> Keybuk: Are the System V runlevels going to continue to have any real meaning in an upstart environment?  I'm asking because I've written a workalike of chkconfig that uses update-rc.d as a back end.
[08:16] <Keybuk> esr: we're always going to have to support packages that assume System V, because they'll exist for as long as vendors support them
[08:16] <rgl> Keybuk, humm, so I can't make it work with 0.3.8?
[08:17] <Keybuk> rgl: you can do it your way with 0.3.8 (have a master job, and use it to start/stop other jobs)
[08:17] <Keybuk> esr: so we'll always ship jobs that run the legacy sysv-rc script
[08:17] <Keybuk> esr: I don't think that runlevels make much sense in a pure Upstart environment, since they're pretty arbitrary and poorly defined across even Linux distros
[08:18] <esr> Can I give you a copy of my chkconfig clone to package with upstart, then?  Some third-party apps expecting a System-V like runlevel setup actually depend on it.
[08:19] <esr> It's pure bash plus sed.  There's a man page.
[08:19] <Keybuk> esr: it'd certainly make sense to have it packaged in Ubuntu
[08:20] <esr> That's what I'm thinking.  I'm running Ubuntu and it's the environmrnt I wrote chkconfig for.
[08:25] <AlexExtreme> hmm, dot compiled with pango and cairo support makes the state machine diagram look so much better :P
[08:27] <esr> Keybuk: Where should I mail the code and man page for your consideration?
[08:27] <AlexExtreme><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:28] <Keybuk> AlexExtreme: got a patch?  I can fix our graphviz <g>
[08:29] <AlexExtreme> hold on
[08:30] <AlexExtreme> http://ftp.frugalware.org/pub/frugalware/frugalware-current/source/xapps-extra/graphviz/FrugalBuild << the necessary depends and compile options are in there
[08:31] <Keybuk> could you mail that me (scott@ubuntu.com); I'm in the middle of three things right now :-/
[08:31] <AlexExtreme> sure
[08:32] <AlexExtreme> done
[08:48] <esr> Keybuk: Code and man page mailed.  And best of luck on the world domination thing -- I think upstart is very elegant, I'd like to see it win.
[08:50] <Keybuk> thanks
[09:08] <rgl> Keybuk, so, you are working on 0.5, but is there a 0.4? :D
[09:15] <rgl> Keybuk, humm, as of 0.3.8, the logd service still uses respawn /sbin/logd
[09:20] <Keybuk> no, there's no 0.4
[09:20] <rgl> ACK :D
why not?</curiousity>
[09:21] <rgl> oh, there seems to be a bug on 0.3.8.  when you do a "start php-fcgi" (my service that does no have a exec), start never ends :-(
[09:22] <rgl> it stays at prompt waiting for something (stdin?)
[09:22] <AlexExtreme> you need to put the service keyword in the job file
[09:22] <AlexExtreme> otherwise initctl assumes that it needs to wait for something to finish ;)
[09:23] <rgl> what service keyword? :D
[09:23] <AlexExtreme> just write a line saying 'service' in the job file
[09:24] <rgl> humm, but what is initctl waiting for?  there is no exec line, so, why not assumer "service" automatically?
[09:24] <AlexExtreme> well
[09:25] <rgl> AlexExtreme, that did the trick.  thx :D
[09:25] <AlexExtreme> a job without anything to run is a state afaik, so initctl will remain running while the system is in that 'state'. once it is stopped initctl will exit
[09:26] <rgl> you are talking chinese to me hehe
[09:27] <AlexExtreme> heh ;)
[09:28] <rgl> there is a "start", a "stop", but well, no "restart", howcome? *G*
[09:28] <rgl> (comand line utility that is ;)
[09:28] <AlexExtreme> if you want a restart, simply write a script :)
[09:28] <AlexExtreme> #!/bin/bash
[09:29] <AlexExtreme> stop $1 && start $1
[09:29] <rgl> why not follow the route of red-hat with "service start service-name"?
[09:29] <AlexExtreme> :)
[09:38] <rgl> OT: how do I extract the number from the string "php-fcgi-1" using bash? :|
[09:38] <rgl> echo php-fcgi-1 | sed 's,.*-(\\d+),\\1,g' does not seem to do the trick :(
[10:00] <rgl> how do I get the name of the service file from within a "script" block?
[10:03] <rgl> got it... its the UPSTART_JOB env variable (read from http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/JobEnvironmentVariable)
[10:12] <rgl> how, why do I need to have a "service" keyword on the service file? :|
[10:23] <rgl> can't make this work :(
[10:23] <rgl> can you look at http://pastie.caboo.se/66237 ?