[01:07] <Jucato> and we don't give any channel privilege (voice, auto op, etc)
[01:34] <ksivaji> Jucato tell me some simple project in foss
[01:37] <polopolo> Hello all, can I get support on the playstation 3 version of (K)ubuntu?
[01:38] <polopolo> Or not?
[01:39] <DarkMageZ> anyone using amarok 1.4.6 & last.fm ?
[01:39] <polopolo> Nobody knows the answer?
[01:40] <polopolo> I go to ubuntu
[01:40] <pag> DarkMageZ, mm... is there a problem with that combination, or are you just doing a survey?
[01:41] <DarkMageZ> pag, i'm having an issue. the track submitting isn't working for me :(
[01:41] <mikev> hi
[01:41] <pag> DarkMageZ, oh, that: last.fm is down at the moment, I guess it'll be up again in a few hours
[01:42] <pag> !hi | mikev
[01:42] <ubotu> mikev: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:42] <gemidjy> pag: it's up here
[01:42] <Jucato> ksivaji: I don't understand what you're trying to ask me
[01:43] <gemidjy> ksivaji: Psi
[01:43] <DarkMageZ> pag, i can reach the website. so you're saying that the server were the listened to songs is sent to is down?
[01:43] <mikev> (disclaimer: linux noob) i'm trying to compile an application  with a static library instead of a shared one, but i'm getting errors. The static libraries are both created with the "ar" command, but when I compile the application it whines about undefined references
[01:43] <DarkMageZ> where*
[01:43] <mikev> s/command/application
[01:44] <mikev> the application is just one c++ file: qmp3join.cc
[01:44] <pag> DarkMageZ, I'm not sure anymore, but I've seen that problem quite a lot, and it always fixed itself in a few hours.
[01:44] <mikev> it creates the object file for it -> qmp3file.o and then tries to link it with the other libraries and fails :/
[01:45] <mikev> oh, is this the right channel for these kind of questions?
[01:45] <DarkMageZ> pag, ah. ok. i'll give it some time then
[01:45] <ksivaji> Jucato  i want to see the source code of some software so tell me some simple software whose code is visible
[01:46] <ksivaji> gemidjy what is "  psi"  <gemidjy> ksivaji: Psi
[01:46] <Jucato> mikev: try ##linux, ##c++ or the app's support channel
[01:46] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: u wanted simple foss project
[01:46] <ksivaji> gemidjy yes
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: psi.im
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: no, sorry psi-im.org/
[01:46] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
[01:46] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[01:46] <_4strO> yop
[01:47] <ksivaji> gemidjy ok thank you
[01:47] <Jucato> ksivaji: all FOSS project's source code are visible... you can start checking any app's source code by downloading it using "apt-get source <pacakge_name>"
[01:47] <gemidjy> if he's using debian based distro :)
[01:47] <Jucato> gemidjy: he is in #kubuntu. that's a safe presumption :)
[01:47] <_4strO> gemidjy: we are on Kubuntu ... so ihe should ...
[01:47] <gemidjy> :))
[01:47] <Jucato> of course, the presumption isn't always 100% true. but then...
[01:48] <_4strO> go awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[01:48] <gemidjy> ok but he asked pretty generic question so I thought he might be generic in general (buzz-word, gener*)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> we have a few gentoo types in here all the time
[01:48] <_4strO> fng spy
[01:48] <gemidjy> ahh spies
[01:48] <gemidjy> :)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> they're alonely bunch :)
[01:48] <_4strO> f*^ing spys
[01:48] <_4strO> spies :p
[01:49] <gemidjy> gentoo masochists
[01:49] <Jucato> anyway, I don't think there's a single app there that's "simple" enough to study at first glance... except for the Hello package
[01:49] <Jucato> hm.... let's not get into distro name calling please
[01:49] <_4strO> Jucato: the cowsay program :p
[01:53] <gemidjy> BluesKaj: blasphemer
[01:54] <BluesKaj> I had to try it ..as a "former" windoze user ...the addiction proved overwhelming ...for one day :)
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> i couldn't run vista... too many known security vulnerabilities unpatched...
[01:57] <BluesKaj> crappy sound drivers at the outset ...didn't support my tvtuner card or my KB and no drivers available ... a disaster IMO
[01:58] <enry> hi
[02:00] <BluesKaj> I see some articles referring to Kubuntu 7.10 as being an almost complete overhaul of the desktop , altho KDE 3.5.7 will be the default for now, 'til KDE 4 is launched
[02:00] <ksivaji> !repo
[02:00] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:00] <MikeMike> does anybody know  how can i install  firefox in kubuntu? i already  unpacked the file in desktop...
[02:01] <fdoving_> BluesKaj: i wonder where they get that from, 3.6.6 -> 3.5.7 can hardly be called a complete overhaul :)
[02:01] <pag> MikeMike, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[02:01] <DarkMageZ> MikeMike, firefox is available in the repositories... or do you have a good reason to run mozilla's build?
[02:02] <BluesKaj> yes, fdoving_ i think they mis-spoke on the desktop issue ...some  confusion there
[02:02] <Jucato> BluesKaj: not if 3.5.8 is launched within the next 2 months or so
[02:02] <fdoving_> Jucato: still nothing near an overhaul.
[02:02] <chris_scummette> hi
[02:03] <Jucato> fdoving_: yeah. was poking on his 2nd sentence
[02:03] <MikeMike> mozilla build?im sorry m not yet familiar with the terms  coz i just recently switched to  kubuntu in frustration with windows :)
[02:03] <fdoving_> Jucato: oh, :)
[02:03] <Jucato> MikeMike: why not install it from our repositories? using Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[02:03] <DarkMageZ> MikeMike, as pag said. if you open the terminal. just type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[02:04] <_4strO> MikeMike: if you want firefox just type in a console : sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:04] <chris_scummette> can someone tell me why iv got this planet icon on my task bar? when i clik on it it says "new server"
[02:04] <chris_scummette> i had to make a mistake somewhere
[02:04] <_4strO> chris_scummette: for adding new server easyaly ?
[02:04] <chris_scummette> yes
[02:04] <chris_scummette> the applet i guess
[02:05] <chris_scummette> how to remove it?
[02:05] <_4strO> right click on it
[02:05] <chris_scummette> it says "new server"
[02:05] <BluesKaj> MikeMike, a hint : if you are going to compile pkgs download them to /user/home ...apt assumes this as the default dir so it's much easier to use rather than having to cd to the desktop while building the pkg.
[02:06] <micman> shiva r u there?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> or move the pkg to use/home
[02:06] <BluesKaj> err /user/home
[02:06] <_4strO> chris_scummette: your taskbar is blocked ?
[02:06] <chris_scummette> nope
[02:06] <micman> friends i have been using linux for the past 2 days.
[02:06] <micman> i mean ubuntu..
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ah ok
[02:07] <BluesKaj> ubuntu is linux
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i found it
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i got bad cliking i guess
[02:07] <micman> my friend installed me a dual boot with win XP.
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i opened a "new" bar
[02:07] <micman> now i have a doubt..
[02:07] <flake> chris - you mean a panel?
[02:07] <chris_scummette> im gonna lock it to prevent this now
[02:07] <_4strO> chris_scummette: you have a little arrow on the left of your icon
[02:07] <chris_scummette> whatever thanks _4strO
[02:07] <_4strO> just click on it
[02:07] <chris_scummette> yes i found
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ^
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ^^
[02:08] <_4strO> :p
[02:08] <BluesKaj> micman, just ask yer question
[02:08] <chris_scummette> sometimes you ask toomuch to yourself while the problem is evident !
[02:08] <micman> while installing linux my friend has set the max space for linux to be 2 gb
[02:08] <micman> now i cant upgrade becoz the space is too less.
[02:08] <chris_scummette> yes flake a "new panel" ti talk right
[02:09] <chris_scummette> ;)
[02:10] <hilary> Hello everyone =)
[02:10] <micman> now i would can u help me increase the space without lossing data in windows
[02:10] <chris_scummette> hi hilary
[02:10] <nosrednaeki1> hello hilary
[02:11] <chris_scummette> micman
[02:11] <chris_scummette> create a new partition on your hard drive
[02:11] <micman> ok
[02:11] <micman> plz continue chris
[02:11] <chris_scummette> just get the app
[02:11] <chris_scummette> Gnome prtition editor
[02:11] <chris_scummette> partirion
[02:11] <micman> what do u mean by app
[02:11] <chris_scummette> erf
[02:12] <chris_scummette> application
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <chris_scummette> a program you download and install to do things
[02:12] <chris_scummette> you know adept
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <chris_scummette> open adept manager
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <flake> gparted  ?
[02:12] <chris_scummette> and get the GNOME partition Editor
[02:12] <chris_scummette> yes flake
[02:13] <micman> ok
[02:13] <oirdimed> hy , some one konw the irc of kubunto frensh please
[02:13] <micman> plz continue chris
[02:13] <gemidjy> where in Kubuntu MenuEntryHeight is set for kicker ? (it's not in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc)
[02:13] <Jucato> !fr | oirdimed
[02:13] <ubotu> oirdimed: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:13] <chris_scummette> oirdimed: #kubuntu-fr
[02:13] <nosrednaeki1> gemidjy: the panel?
[02:13] <micman> what was that?
[02:14] <oirdimed> thanks
[02:14] <chris_scummette> you got it micman?
[02:14] <chris_scummette> already?
[02:14] <gemidjy> nosrednaeki1: nope
[02:14] <gemidjy> can't find it
[02:14] <micman> partly
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> gemidjy: what is kicker?
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> the pnel right?
[02:14] <gemidjy> yes
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> there is no menu entry for it.I think it would just confuse people.
[02:14] <chris_scummette> ok, when you will have it on your system things will seem much clearer
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> did you lose your panel?
[02:15] <micman> i mean i dont have Gnome partition edi.
[02:15] <chris_scummette> then install it
[02:15] <micman> ok
[02:15] <ksivaji> micman hey what  man
[02:16] <micman> my main concern is i m doubtful whether it will crash the data in my other os
[02:16] <micman> siva u r there..
[02:16] <micman>  i have been waitin for u.
[02:16] <micman> chris is doin a good job helping me out.
[02:16] <chris_scummette> micman, it depends if you have free space left or not....
[02:17] <ksivaji> micman do u have gparted
[02:17] <waylandbill_> micman: before you do anything with partitions backup, backup, backup.
[02:17] <chris_scummette> waylandbill_:  i was on to tell him the same
[02:17] <micman> i have a 40GB hard disk and i can clear a separate drive in Windows for the purpose..cris.
[02:17] <chris_scummette> backup.
[02:17] <ksivaji> waylandbill_ he got only 40gb that to dual boot
[02:18] <micman> thX waylandbill_  for u r suggestion.
[02:18] <ksivaji> micman
[02:18] <micman> ok friends . now that u have assured me of data safety i m gonna try it out soon.
[02:19] <ksivaji> micman
[02:19] <chris_scummette> micman: backup before
[02:19] <ksivaji> micman
[02:19] <micman> thX chris_scummette  and waylandbill_
[02:19] <chris_scummette> dont forget to backup
[02:19] <chris_scummette> and try gparted
[02:19] <chris_scummette> its simple to use
[02:20] <micman> ok chris.  shiva lets go offline.tell me the procedure
[02:20] <micman> siva?
[02:20] <micman> siva  where r u?
[02:21] <micman> siva  where r u?
[02:22] <MikeMike> Hello :)  guys, can you suggest a good website regarding learning the basics of kubuntu?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: oh.... so you want to RTFM?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:23] <MikeMike> RTFM?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> never mind..
[02:23] <_4strO> Read The Fucking Manual
[02:23] <MikeMike> hehehe sorry newbe here...
[02:23] <fusiogen>   yooooooooooo alllllllllll
[02:23] <MikeMike> hahaha
[02:23] <_4strO> ^^
[02:23] <MikeMike> not really
[02:24] <MikeMike> something like pick and point
[02:24] <ksivaji> MikeMike http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: here's an intro to linux http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[02:25] <waylandbill_> !language
[02:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> waylandbill_: hence why I said nevermind ;)
[02:26] <micman> see u friends later. thX for u r help.
[02:26] <MikeMike> thanks ksivaji and nosrednaekim
[02:26] <MikeMike> 1111
[02:26] <_4strO> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <MikeMike> nosrednaekim  lol! :)
[02:27] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: the community documentation on the ubuntu and kubuntu wiki's are not a bad read.
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: have fun. (thats what linux is all about)
[02:27] <BluesKaj> I can remember, after installing suse , asking some noob questions in the help channel and receiving that response ..read the man pages , man !
[02:27] <ksivaji> MikeMike  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:28] <darkrift_> anyone know about linux on a pocket pc?
[02:29] <darkrift_> and how do you make a shortcut command again.... been years since i did this
[02:29] <BluesKaj> some help channel , a bunch of 14 yr olds with attitude .. I know more than you, hahaha ...it was unbelievable that nobody was monitoring them.
[02:30] <darkrift_> for example, i want to type sinstall <appname> and have it run "sudo apt-get install <appname>"
[02:31] <MikeMike> people,  thanks a lot  for the help. really appreciate it :)
[02:31] <falso0> ghkjhg
[02:31] <falso0> salam
[02:31] <_4strO> darkrift_: ~/.bash_aliases
[02:32] <animimotus> someone has a idea why the command sudo update-grub   reestablish the old menu.lst  I have just edit?
[02:32] <falso0>
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> animimotus: probably because it doesn't detect whatever partition you manually edited in
[02:32] <noiesmo> animimotus, if you dont want the kernel image listed you need to remove it via apt
[02:33] <animimotus> noiesmo: no I have just add a boot option : vga=...
[02:33] <falso0>
[02:34] <animimotus> nosrednaekim: oh ok... well... how can I do for the good one ?
[02:35] <MikeMike> btw,  do  you still  use anti-virus/spyware on your ubuntu/kubuntus?
[02:35] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: you don't have to.
[02:35] <MikeMike> how come?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: you don't need anti virus... firewall you might need if you are not protected (i.e., open wifi)
[02:35] <animimotus> MikeMike: an AV is more for a samba network, for poor windows user if you have some
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !virus
[02:35] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !ar | falso0
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <MikeMike>  hhhmmm interesting stuff... i  hate my XP bec of  virus and spywares....
[02:37] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: the biggest reason is many Windows users run as administrator all the time allowing rogue software to affect system files.
[02:38] <MikeMike> Correct
[02:38] <waylandbill_> sometimes, like for some games, you can't run as anything but with admin privs.  Linspire and Xandros did. They're second rate distros IMO anyway. :-)
[02:45] <BluesKaj> <--geography nut
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, i tried xandros ...reminded me of windows
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> well... I thougt manila was there.... but I didn't recognize what q.c. meant.
[02:48] <ksivaji> what "kexec" command will do
[02:48] <BluesKaj> <-- Lake Huron North Channel...Ontario
[02:48] <waylandbill> last time I used Windows xp, I kept single clicking icons and waiting for action that never came. :-)
[02:48] <BluesKaj> hehe , same here waylandbill :)...ain't it a pain
[02:48] <MikeMike> What coo l games are available fo r kubuntu?
[02:49] <MikeMike> What cool games are available for kubuntu?
[02:49] <_4strO> MikeMike: openGL ?
[02:49] <waylandbill> MikeMike: I like tremulous.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> cool games .... nothing cool about some of those dumb games :)
[02:49] <ardchoille> MikeMike: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[02:49] <_4strO> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007062002626RVGM
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> I like BZflag
[02:51] <ksivaji>  what "kexec" command will do
[02:51] <BluesKaj> <---old and grumpy , doesn't think a pc should be used for gaming ...a waste of good computing IMO ...Buy an XBox ! :)
[02:52] <_4strO> ksivaji: kexec --help ?
[02:53] <llutz> ksivaji: kexec-tool "This tool is used to load a kernel in memory and reboot into the kernel loaded in memory using the kexec system call."
[02:53] <BluesKaj> BBL . gonna extend my ext3 partition , now that windows is wiped
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> bye
[02:54] <_4strO> so Kexec is for Kernel execution (meen not to kill the kernel :)
[02:55] <ksivaji> llutz  _4strO rebooting your system without invlovment of bootstrap loader right
[02:56] <chris_scummette> kmess is the best
[02:56] <chris_scummette> i didnt try Kmess yet, its fuc**g goo
[02:56] <chris_scummette> good
[02:56] <chris_scummette> :D
[02:57] <MikeMike> bye!
[02:57] <hilary> Hello again =)
[03:03] <hilary> Can somebody help me =(
[03:03] <ksivaji> hilary ye we can
[03:03] <ksivaji> if u cooperate
[03:04] <hilary> I'll try, you may need to bare with me, I am not too smart with computers and stuff
[03:04] <hilary> but the problem I'm having
[03:04] <hilary> is that my computer says my network is connected, and I am able to sign onto MSN, AIM and YIM messenger
[03:05] <hilary> but when I try to go onto a webpage, eg google, it just says Server has timed out
[03:05] <hilary> and it does that for every page I look for
[03:05] <hilary> just wondering if you have ever heard of a problem like that, and if so, if you know a fix
[03:05] <chris_scummette> i has the same problem hilary
[03:05] <chris_scummette> what browser do you use
[03:06] <hilary> Mozilla Firefox
[03:06] <hilary> but I've tried it with Konquerer too
[03:06] <hilary> and it times out on both browsers
[03:06] <chris_scummette> erf
[03:06] <chris_scummette> tried to uninstall and reinstall?
[03:07] <hilary> no =( I havent really tried much, the guys yesterday in here could not suggest much
[03:07] <ksivaji>  hilary type ping google.com and paste the output here
[03:07] <hilary> ok hold on
[03:07] <hilary> PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=102 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=107 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=108 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=104 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=5 ttl=242 time=103 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=105 ms
[03:08] <hilary> if that helps?
[03:08] <ksivaji> hilary ya you got net connection and it is working
[03:09] <hilary> but it still wont let me connect to web-pages, it just times out =(
[03:10] <hilary> An error occurred while loading http://google.com:
[03:10] <hilary> Timeout on server
[03:10] <hilary>  Connection was to google.com at port 80
[03:10] <hilary> thats the error I get
[03:10] <DarkMageZ> hilary, is this computer and the one that is having webpage problems the same computer?
[03:10] <ksivaji> hilary open firefox from terminal and see what u get
[03:10] <hilary> Darkmage: yes
[03:11] <DarkMageZ> hilary, check your firefox proxy setting.
[03:11] <hilary> How would I do that?
[03:11] <DarkMageZ> hilary, edit > preferences > advanced > networking
[03:12] <hilary> ok I am on the configure prixies bit
[03:13] <DarkMageZ> is it setup as "connect directly"
[03:13] <hilary> Direct connection to the Internet is ticked, yes
[03:15] <DarkMageZ> hmm, that's odd then.
[03:15] <jorik808> maybe the ISP blocks outgoing port 80 and you HAVE to use a proxy
[03:15] <jorik808> my old ISP had that
[03:16] <DarkMageZ> in the terminal what happens if you "wget http://www.google.com/index.html"
[03:16] <hilary> I'll check
[03:17] <hilary> --14:17:05--  http://www.google.com/index.html
[03:17] <hilary>            => `index.html'
[03:17] <hilary> Resolving www.google.com... <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:17] <hilary> Connecting to www.google.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[03:17] <hilary> I get that
[03:17] <jorik808> well
[03:18] <hilary> not much else is happening
[03:18] <jorik808> you ARE connected to the internet, otherwise wget couldn't translate google.com into <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:18] <jorik808> problem is something is blocking outgoing connections (on port 80)
[03:18] <hilary> Well I can use my net messengers too
[03:18] <jorik808> which ISP do you use ?
[03:19] <jorik808> furthermore, did it used to work and is it broken now, or has it never worked
[03:20] <hilary> it use to work yes
[03:20] <hilary> it worked this morning
[03:20] <hilary> but did this after about... 2 hours of use
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> your isp's website fails to mention anything about a proxy
[03:20] <michael> Hallo
[03:21] <michael> Wie geht das denn hier ?
[03:22] <azzco> Has anyone got gooseegg installed successfully?
[03:22] <michael> What is gooseegg
[03:22] <DarkMageZ> hilary, goto the proxy configuration section again :)
[03:22] <hilary> urmm, ok hold on
[03:23] <hilary> ok I'm there
[03:23] <azzco> a modeling program... actually I meant freyja which seems to be a side project of gooseegg..
[03:23] <hilary> what now?
[03:23] <gemidjy> anyone experienced with ATI x1300 or x1400 card ?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> hilary, set it to manual config
[03:23] <hilary> ok
[03:23] <hilary> done
[03:23] <iTurtle> Hi. What are ops?
[03:24] <DarkMageZ> hilary, and then put in webcache.blueyonder.co.uk and the port as 8080 and set that for all protocols
[03:24] <iTurtle> I got kicked out from the ubuntu support chat because I typed in ops preceded by an exclamation mark, to ask ubotu what ops are.
[03:24] <michael> i'm from Germany, sorry for my bad english
[03:24] <jorik808> iTurtle: people who have more power on a channel/server (eg able to kick other people out)
[03:24] <llutz> !de|michael
[03:24] <ubotu> michael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:24] <iTurtle> jorik808: ok.
[03:24] <iTurtle> jorik808, why'd they kick me out?
[03:24] <hilary> oh so I put that webcache. thing in HTTP proxy and click use this proxy server for all protocls?
[03:25] <hilary> ok done
[03:25] <iTurtle> jorik808: I just typed in "!" followed by "ops"
[03:25] <Tm_T> iTurtle: because ! ops is used only for emergency
[03:25] <jorik808> iTurtle: some programs react to people saying "!ops" by "opping them"
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> hilary, and in the port section throw in 8080
[03:25] <hilary> done
[03:25] <hilary> it now has 8080 in all of the boxes
[03:25] <iTurtle> Tm_T: i thought that would ask ubotu what ops are.
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> hilary, now see if the web works
[03:25] <hilary> ok :)
[03:25] <Tm_T> iTurtle: wrong thought
[03:25] <iTurtle> Tm_T: whoops!
[03:25] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: we control the channel, and kick people who are misbehaving.
[03:25] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yay
[03:25] <hilary> oh wow
[03:26] <Hobbsee> etc
[03:26] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: I wasn't misbehaving.
[03:26] <hilary> I think it worked
[03:26] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: you?
[03:26] <hilary> YAY! =)
[03:26] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: just abusing the !ops call, after being told not to
[03:26] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: me what?
[03:26] <hilary> I owe you a drink Darkmagez =)
[03:26] <hilary> thank you
[03:26] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: I didn't know what !ops did - I thought it would ask ubotu what ops were
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> hilary, i'd suggest writing that down for future reference. webcache.blueyonder.co.uk @ port 8080 :P
[03:27] <Hobbsee> no
[03:27] <Tm_T> gah, iTurtle keeps hilighting me with ! ops
[03:27] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: same here
[03:27] <Tm_T> you too have it in hilight? nice (:
[03:27] <hilary> got it =) (hugs for darkmagez) =) thank you again
[03:27] <iTurtle> Tm_T, Hobbsee: what do you mean? I didn't know it called them.
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> hilary, have fun :)
[03:28] <hilary> =D
[03:28] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: some of us have highlights on "!ops"
[03:28] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: because sometimes it's called incorrectly, or wahtever
[03:28] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: what are highlights?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> big red text
[03:28] <Tm_T> or yellow
[03:28] <Hobbsee> whichever
[03:28] <Tm_T> anything that makes it look important
[03:28] <Hobbsee> text saying "ZOMG THE WORLD IS ON FIRE!!!"
[03:28] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: oh.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> and such
[03:28] <DarkMageZ> and it can trigger other actions like sounds or flashing.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> "please respond to this ASAP"
[03:29] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: respond to what?
[03:29] <dthacker> iTurtle: now that you know more about "it". you could stop typing "it"?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: the ops call.
[03:29] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: ok.
[03:30] <pawitp> Can anyone tell me what windows decorator to use with compiz?
[03:33] <dthacker> pawitp: what is a windows decorator?
[03:33] <fdoving> pawitp: aquamarine is nice for kde.
[03:33] <pawitp> fdoving: Aquamarine keeps saying it's unsupported
[03:34] <fdoving> pawitp: ok, #ubuntu-effects are the experts in this field.
[03:38] <binks> ok if i try start vdr i get an error vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR
[03:38] <binks> how do i turn it off
[03:38] <binks> !locale
[03:38] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:47] <michael> What can you tell me about installing or deinstalling Programs in Kubuntu ?
[03:48] <pag> !software | michael
[03:48] <ubotu> michael: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[03:49] <kharloss> hi. i have an USB pendrive Kingston, i try to copy some files but the speed is verry low   50/100 kb  / sec
[03:49] <kharloss> what could be the problem ?
[03:49] <ardchoille> !repos | michael
[03:49] <ubotu> michael: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:51] <binks> how can i switch off utf-8
[03:51] <binks> !utf-8
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <michael> What is Add/Remove Programs ?
[04:00] <fritz> hy, installed bery and the sistem seems 2 be a tad slow...can any1 tell me what features i can disable for it 2 run smoother?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !beryl | fritz
[04:02] <ubotu> fritz: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:02] <ardchoille> try disabling beryl
[04:02] <fritz> haha very funny
[04:02] <fritz> serioulsy now guys...any tips?
[04:02] <michael> Can i uninstall Kate, Kontact, KArm etc. ?
[04:03] <tu_> hello everyone
[04:03] <fritz> hy, installed bery and the sistem seems 2 be a tad slow...can any1 tell me what features i can disable for it 2 run smoother?
[04:03] <tu_> could any1 help out with aMSN problem!
[04:03] <claudio_> !ntfs
[04:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:03] <DarkMageZ> fritz, beryl help is in #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <fritz> thnx
[04:04] <tu_> i just installed aMSN and it keeps asking me for TLS when i tried installing it it gave me an error.. so did it in the terminal.. but even so amsn keeps asking me for tls when i wanna sign in
[04:05] <DarkMageZ> tu_, is this amsn from the kubuntu repos or the package from the amsn website?
[04:06] <tu_> darkmagez amsn website
[04:06] <tu_> hey how can i use the "tab" like mirc!
[04:06] <tu_> to autoset nicknames!
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> tu_, which package did you install for tls support?
[04:06] <claudio_> !mp3
[04:06] <tu_> darkmagez 86
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:06] <claudio_> hi boys
[04:06] <claudio_> how i can play mp3s on my kubu?
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> tu_, try "sudo apt-get install tcltls"
[04:07] <tu_> darkmagez thts wht i did! and it worked perfectly
[04:07] <claudio_> (i'm a linux newbie) lol
[04:07] <DarkMageZ> claudio_, read what ubotu said :P
[04:07] <claudio_> hmm
[04:08] <tu_> claudio am not an official helper or anything! though i faced the same probs and fixed it by using automatix and instaling the needed codecs
[04:08] <tu_> or simply go for Amarok <<--- excelent media player
[04:08] <claudio_> hmm okay ^^
[04:08] <tu_> but once again im not an official helper this is only my personal experience with such prob!
[04:08] <claudio_> ps: exceuce me for my bad english
[04:08] <DarkMageZ> don't use automatix...
[04:08] <tu_> ok then listen to darkmagez he knows best
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> if you are caught using automatix. no-one in their right mind will help you.
[04:09] <claudio_> do you know windows applications like "cuase sx" "reason" or "fruity loops"?
[04:09] <tu_> unless if ur out of the US darkmagez lol
[04:09] <claudio_> there is some appz like it?
[04:09] <claudio_> there are*
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> tu_, not for legal. but for technical reasons.
[04:09] <tu_> claudio .. get amarok :) next best thing it will download the codecs needed by itself
[04:10] <tu_> darkmagez oh ok.. then should i uninstall it myself aswell ?
[04:10] <DarkMageZ> claudio_, which application do you want mp3 support for?
[04:10] <glauco1> hi, how i can read the rm files?
[04:10] <DarkMageZ> tu_, if things start to break. then reinstall kubuntu. as no-one will help if they find out about your automatix usage.
[04:10] <asso> hy i search for help in french please
[04:11] <DarkMageZ> !restrictedformats > glauco1
[04:11] <tu_> hmm then ill uninstall it :) thanks for the advice
[04:11] <glauco1> !restrictedformats
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <tu_> asso je ne parle pas le francais tellement bien mais tu peu me demande eh j'essaye de te aide
[04:12] <glauco1> tank
[04:12] <tu_> darkmagez so how can i fix my aMSN problem
[04:12] <glauco1> ;)
[04:12] <asso> kubuntu.fr
[04:12] <DarkMageZ> tu_, use the ubuntu package?
[04:12] <motoguru> jest ktos z polski ?
[04:12] <tu_> darkmagez i downloaded the ubuntu package then it kept asking me for updates each time i login
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !fr
[04:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:12] <ardchoille> !automatix | tu_
[04:12] <ubotu> tu_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:13] <DarkMageZ> tu_, in the settings there is an option to disable the check.
[04:13] <tu_> ardchoille im uninstalling it right now:) thank you
[04:13] <ardchoille> tu_: :)
[04:13] <tu_> darkmagez true.. but to b honest i liked the new features of the updated amsn
[04:13] <Graham> Hey, how can I play divx videos in firefox?
[04:13] <tu_> im not getting whts the prob with it! i installed the TLS as requested..
[04:13] <ardchoille> tu_: Keep in mind, the damage may have already been done since you've already used it.
[04:14] <tu_> ardchoille, umm is there anyway of restoring my ditro to its default state ?
[04:14] <Graham> tu_: Format it.
[04:14] <tu_> graham lol ya thought tht would b the obvious answer..
[04:15] <tu_> anyway
[04:15] <Graham> Reset your distro isn't very descriptive.
[04:15] <ardchoille> tu_: If you've used automatix, I would recommend formatting the hd and reinstalling kubuntu.
[04:15] <tu_> hmm i guess i should b doing so real soon:)
[04:15] <tu_> anyway thanks you guys! though one silly question left!
[04:16] <tu_> how can i use the TAB issue like mirc! to auto complete nicknames
[04:16] <tu_> in konversation or xchat ..
[04:16] <ardchoille> tu_: Then I would recommend learnig how to install things yourself rather than rely on a 3rd party script. Installing things yourself will help you if you have a problem later.. using someone's script doesn't teach you anything.
[04:16] <tu_> ardchoille am obviously a newbie.. been 2 weeks tht im using linux!
[04:17] <tu_> ardchoille so am suffering through it thoguh i admit its worth it! better than all the hassle windows gave me
[04:17] <DarkMageZ> tu_, did you use the generic installer package for amsn?
[04:17] <tu_> darkmagez yes i did
[04:17] <ardchoille> tu_: Indeed :)
[04:18] <vectman> ardchoille: do you a good file or link re how to write you own scripts
[04:18] <tu_> kept it on dual boot for a while till i get the hang of linux and then ill format it all and just keep kubuntu
[04:18] <Graham> tu_: Pres tab...
[04:18] <ardchoille> tu_: Some thigs to keep in mind for a good system: 1) do not use rpm's or alien 2) only use .deb packages that were made for Ubuntu 3) always check the repos before installing a deb or compiling.
[04:18] <tu_> graham i did.. not working
[04:18] <DarkMageZ> right... uninstall amsn if you can. i'll start attempting to package 0.97rc1
[04:18] <Graham> Type Gra then press tab
[04:19] <padde> hi there. i frequently (and for years with various versions of kubuntu) have the problem that adept_manager just doesn't appear after i click the start menu entry. is this a known problem? how to solve it?
[04:19] <tu_> graham thts wht im doing.. no luck!
[04:19] <tu_> ardchoile thanks for the advice
[04:19] <Graham> Kubuntu Feisty right?
[04:19] <llutz> vectman: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html and http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[04:19] <tu_> ardchoile though as i mentioned this is a crash course of linux for a lack of a better word! amd doing everything i SOUDLNT DO so ilearn not to do it when i reformat and use it as the default OS
[04:20] <vectman> llutz: thanks
[04:20] <ardchoille> padde: Try starting it from a terminal to see if there's any error output: adept_manager
[04:20] <tu_> though i admit am facing trouble with firefox opening sites where it uses 90 % of the cpu..
[04:20] <Graham> tu_: What computer do you have?
[04:21] <tu_> Graham p iv, 1.8 256
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: only this, but that's always there, also wenn it is able to start up
[04:21] <tu_> i know i know its lame though this is my backup desktop i usualy use my laptop which is decent enough
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: http://rafb.net/p/CINgZ899.html
[04:21] <Graham> I have similar, P4 1.9 512 6 year old dell...
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: and this has been like that with many kubuntus, different installations, on different computers.
[04:22] <tu_> Graham , you facing a prob with the browser!
[04:22] <tu_> if i opened like 3 sites (heavy sites) the whole pc hangs
[04:22] <ardchoille> padde: That error is due to your xorg.conf trying to initialise wacom devices that you don't have on your system. You can comment out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf and that error will go away.
[04:22] <padde> ardchoille: ok. but then my problem still persists, i guess ;)
[04:23] <ardchoille> padde: Yes.. though I don't know why. I don't use adpet.
[04:23] <ardchoille> *adept
[04:23] <padde> ardchoille: is there an alternative? i have a feeling that it's a problem of kdesu
[04:24] <ardchoille> padde: Yes, I would recommend installing/uninstalling/searching/etc for software via the command line. It's much faster.
[04:25] <ardchoille> padde: man apt-get  and  man apt-cache
[04:25] <padde> ardchoille: well, i'm usually a gentoo user, so i would prefer that method any day, but the apt-get search is not exactly user friendly nor does it show the search results in a readable manner, imo
[04:25] <ardchoille> padde: man apt-cache has lots of options to make it better :)
[04:25] <padde> ardchoille: i see. thanks for the pointer
[04:26] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:27] <ardchoille> PErsonally, I don't see why anyone bothered to write a gui front-end for APT.. it was a step backwards IMHO.
[04:29] <llp78> whats a good program to use to download binaries from newsgroups ?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> ardchoille, it's to help new people adapt to linux
[04:36] <^V^> llp78: klibido
[04:38] <paco_> hi there, anybody knows how to get bitmap fonts in konsole 1.6.6, kubuntu 7.04 ?
[04:38] <dek3> how can put the subtitles in xine ?
[04:40] <llp78> ^V^: cheers
[04:52] <ardchoille> DarkMageZ: Ah, well I can understand that.
[04:53] <kain__> hello i have an issue with an external hd with all my stuff from my laptop backed up (pre kubuntu) finally got it to mount and got access to the mnt dir after a week and a half
[04:53] <kain__> but now i see no files nothing
[04:54] <kain__> if i put it into a win xp box i get all 60gb fine
[04:54] <kain__> can someone please help
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> kain__: it mounts but you see no files?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> i would say check the 'mount' command and be sure its mounted.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> and then see if the root user sees items. It may be mounted with the wrong permissions.
[04:58] <ardchoille> kain__: Also, be sure youare looking in the correct mount point.
[04:59] <ardchoille> That stumped me for hours when I first used Linux, I was looking in /mnt/cdrom and it was mounted to /media/cdrom
[04:59] <Dr_willis> ln -s /mnt /mount :)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> or /media heh
[05:00] <Dr_willis> or am i backwards in that.. i always get ln -s backwards
[05:01] <mattrperry> got a question about how to reset the apt auto-check for updates back on...can anyone direct me as to where to look?
[05:01] <Jucato> mattrperry: are you on Feisty?
[05:01] <mattrperry> yes
[05:02] <Jucato> Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[05:02] <Jucato> one of the tabs there. forgot which one
[05:02] <busfahrer> I want to install a single package from feisty-backports, but I don't want to add it to sources.list, since I don't want the other updates in there. How to do this properly?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> download the .deb  i guess. and install it manually
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[05:03] <Jucato> not sure that's such a good idea. that one single package you want installed might depend other updated packages in -backports as well
[05:03] <busfahrer> Dr_willis: Easy to remember, works the same way as cp :-)
[05:03] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: Adept has  GUI for that now :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> busfahrer,  untill you think 'i alwyas get this backwards.. so i need to reverse them..' then resize you were right the first time.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: oh... thats nice!
[05:04] <jontec> I don't have an internet connection in my chroot...
[05:04] <jontec> What should I do? I think it's worked before on wireless
[05:05] <jontec> actually, never mind I've gotta go. ^^
[05:06] <kain__> Dr. hold on please
[05:07] <kain__> let me plug in the drive
[05:08] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: thanks, that worked
[05:08] <kain__> just plugged in the drive
[05:08] <kain__> ok now it says mounting /mount/sdb1
[05:08] <kain__> oops
[05:08] <kain__> mounting dev/sdb1
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: NP
[05:09] <kain__> and it sits here at 0%
[05:09] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: you don't also happen to know where to find the linux equiv of the windows 'startup' folder do you?
[05:10] <kain__> i'm now in disk and filesystems as admin
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:10] <kain__> Dr_willis?
[05:10] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: thanks again..you're the man!
[05:11] <kain__> hey nos
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> or for shell programs, .bashrc
[05:11] <Dr_willis> kain__,  go to the shell use 'sudo mount' see if its mounted.
[05:11] <Jucato> !autostart | mattrperry
[05:11] <ubotu> mattrperry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:11] <kain__> k
[05:11] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: that really depends on when/where he wants the script/program to start up :)
[05:12] <kain__> this is the last line
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: right..
[05:12] <kain__> * /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) *
[05:12] <Kim^J> YO!
[05:12] <Kim^J> On the livecd, what's the password for the screensaver? :O
[05:12] <Kim^J> Locked it and can't get in anymore.
[05:13] <Jucato> ouch.... that bug again?
[05:13] <Jucato> there's supposed to be no password
[05:13] <Kim^J> It's a bug? Darn. :(
[05:13] <kain__> Dr. Willis: /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:14] <kain__> ok i open konquerer now and i am in the folder /media and it just says "stalled":
[05:14] <SQUALL2> hi .is there achannel populated to arab?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  how did it get mounted to /mnt ? thats odd.
[05:15] <kain__> what should it mount to?
[05:15] <wsjunior> Kim^J: i dont know but anyway u can go to terminal and then reset the password :D
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  try media:/ in konqueror not /media
[05:15] <kain__> i set it up that way like the internal hd's
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  also try ti access it from the shell.
[05:16] <kain__> i disabled the external
[05:16] <kain__> where should it mount to?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> kain__,  ive never had a ubuntu ystem install stuff to /mnt alwyas /media
[05:16] <Dr_willis> WHERE isent very impoirntant. but ive never seen it do that
[05:16] <kain__> i changed the settings
[05:16] <Dr_willis> ahh.. so its Possible you changed some other stuff then...
[05:16] <Dr_willis> try as a user 'ls -l /mnt'
[05:16] <Dr_willis> then try it with sudo  'sudo ls -l /mnt'
[05:17] <Kim^J> wsjunior: I know. I did that. :)
[05:17] <kain__> Dr. : the mountpoint /media is already in use by another entry continue/
[05:17] <kain__> ?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> kain__,  /media is a directory that holds the other mounted filesystems normally
[05:17] <wsjunior> Kim^J: :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ie: /media/hda1 /media/cdrom and so forth
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Sounds to me like you may have changed a lot of things...
[05:18] <kain__> ok changed to media let's see if it works
[05:18] <Kim^J> wsjunior: I have been using Ubuntu since the last 2 years so I know, just got a bit confused when it asked me for a password. :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> kain__,  you should be mounting to somthing like /media/MyExternalDrive
[05:19] <Kim^J> Well, see ya later dudes.
[05:20] <kain__> ok i tried to change to /media/sdb1 and it says it'll create the mountpoint i hit continue nothing happens
[05:20] <Dr_willis> kain__,  i never use that gui interface.. i manually edit the fstab file
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Ive heard that gui interface is ... not very reliable.
[05:20] <Jucato> which gui interface?
[05:20] <kain__> brb will you help me
[05:20] <kain__> disk and filesystems
[05:21] <kain__> trying to mount an ext dr
[05:21] <kain__> brb
[05:21] <kain__> thank you DrWillis
[05:21] <Jucato> ah it's quite matured, Dr_willis
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: works great for me
[05:21] <Jucato> unfortunately, almost nobody knows about it... because of that (imho) silly Advanced tab...
[05:21] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know how to change the volume label in Linux?
[05:22] <shane2peru> so that it mounts at the same name all the time?
[05:22] <Jucato> shane2peru: Kubuntu, since Edgy, has been using UUID for that
[05:22] <Jucato> !uuid | shane2peru
[05:22] <ubotu> shane2peru: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> tune2fs lets you set the volume Label
[05:22] <Jucato> it's almost the same as LABEL, but more reliable imho
[05:23] <Dr_willis> i even edit the fstab to mount disks by label. not UUID. :)
[05:23] <shane2peru> Jucato: no, not the uuid stuff, just the volume label, like in Windows you can plug in a usb stick and rename it.
[05:23] <adaptr> I hate UUID - makes it a pain to mess around with partitions
[05:23] <Jucato> adaptr: er?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> UUID came in handy.. i moved my hds around.. and the system still worked..
[05:23] <shane2peru> adaptr: I'm not much of a uuid'er either.
[05:24] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: I'm sure it has it uses, but for the average user, it is more of a pain. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[05:24] <Jucato> if by "mess around with partitions" you mean repartition again and again, over and over... then yes, UUID is a bit annoying
[05:24] <Dr_willis> comes in handy.
[05:24] <shane2peru> I found this on the forums before, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/
[05:24] <shane2peru> but it claims it is for fat32
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Of course once ya get partitions setup.. it dosent matter much.
[05:25] <kain__> ok
[05:25] <Jucato> yeah... but somehow the long UUID strikes fear into the heart of newbies :)
[05:25] <icecruncher> how can I disable the bouncy icon when I open a program/
[05:25] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  i seem to recall using the media:\ in konqueror to set a fat32 partitions label once.. with the properties
[05:25] <Jucato> icecruncher: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[05:25] <shane2peru> right, and it isn't often I have to change them, but I would like to be able to name my partition in Linux
[05:25] <kain__> DrWillis: how would i do this in shell? or is there a better gui?
[05:25] <Jucato> icecruncher: go to Appearance & THemes -> Launch Feedback
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I set my uuid's to be 000-000-000-001
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> icecruncher: kcontrol->apearances and themes->launch feedback
[05:25] <chris_> anyone have a logitech mx5000 keyboard/mouse? How does it work with linux?
[05:26] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: missed the part about launching kcontrol :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> kain__,  im not clear on what you are really doing. its possible you messed up a lot of things with that gui due to doing some 'odd' things on your part.
[05:26] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: can you clarify that a bit?
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I saw you type that and I figured I would beat you to the second part
[05:26] <llutz> shane2peru: e2label
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[05:26] <kain__> how would i un mess stuff up lol
[05:26] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  tune2fs lets you change the label.. or the UUID. :) and other things
[05:26] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: which you still didn't :P
[05:26] <kain__> !fstab
[05:26] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:26] <shane2peru> llutz: is it in the repos?
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I came in second XD
[05:27] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: is that in the repos?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  its part of the fs ttools.. so it should allready be installed
[05:27] <llutz> shane2peru: in e2fsprogs
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !find tune2fs
[05:27] <icecruncher> Jucato nosrednaekim: thnks
[05:27] <ubotu> File tune2fs found in e2fsprogs, zsh, zsh-beta
[05:27] <Dr_willis> zsh? odd..
[05:27] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: which means you didn't beat me to it
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I know I know
[05:28] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: yep it is installed.  is it pretty easy to use?
[05:28] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: or better yet do you know where a how to is?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  read the help info... check the man page.
[05:28] <llutz> shane2peru: man e2label
[05:28] <shane2peru> great, ok, thanks Dr_willis
[05:28] <Dr_willis> We dont need no stinking  HOWTO's! :)
[05:28] <shane2peru> llutz: is e2lable easier?
[05:28] <shane2peru> better?
[05:28] <shane2peru> or just different
[05:29] <llutz> shane2peru: to label a partition? sure
[05:29] <Dr_willis> e2label
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Usage: e2label device [newlabel]
[05:29] <kain__> brb :(
[05:29] <Dr_willis> WOWsers - how complex eh..
[05:29] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: llutz:  that is all I want to do.  Thanks!
[05:29] <Dr_willis> i could of done it a dozen times in the time it took you to ask how hard it was to do. :)
[05:29] <llutz> Dr_willis: too complex for all those gui-noobs ;)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> does it matter how hard it is to use. :) if its the tool you need to use.. you learn it/use it.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:30] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: yep, I see that now :), I just don't like to mess up my stuff . :)
[05:31] <shane2peru> llutz: hey, now, I do have preference to cli
[05:31] <shane2peru> I'm not a guru, but, do enjoy learning.
[05:31] <llutz> shane2peru: i wasn't pointing at you
[05:32] <Dr_willis> for irc tech support.. CLI is much easier to explaine.
[05:32] <billytwowilly> wow, konversation crashed hard..
[05:32] <shane2peru> llutz: no, that is ok hey everyone has to learn
[05:32] <billytwowilly> anybody using a logitech mx 5000 keyboard/mouse with kubuntu?
[05:32] <shane2peru> CLI is cross distro?  Kubuntu Xbuntu eudubuntu Ubuntu etc.
[05:33] <shane2peru> not really distro, but you get it.
[05:33] <shane2peru> ok, thanks guys, I appreciate the help!
[05:33] <llutz> shane2peru: cli works on almost all u*nices
[05:33] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  for the most part . yes.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> *ubuntu  :)
[05:33] <shane2peru> well, I did find it playing with other distros some commands were different
[05:33] <Dr_willis> slight differances in some disrtos.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> package manager, service management,  differ normally
[05:34] <shane2peru> fdisk -l didn't work on PC Linux or something
[05:34] <Dr_willis> that should of worked..
[05:34] <Dr_willis> you perhaps needed to be root
[05:34] <shane2peru> maybe it was another command, I don't remember, no, I was root.
[05:34] <llutz> shane2peru: fdisk -l  won't work the known way on a lot of distros
[05:34] <jzilla> Good Morning, Friends.
[05:35] <wolf> Morning
[05:35] <shane2peru> oh well, it doesn't matter, ok, I gotta run, and rename this partition and get busy for the day.
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[05:35] <shane2peru> thanks again for the help guys!
[05:37] <mattrperry> I just upgraded to feisty and for some reason my drives and partitions don't auto-mount or auto-link to my desktop...any suggestions?
[05:38] <kain__> DrWillis: If i pastebin my fstab file will you look at it please
[05:38] <sebastian>
[05:39] <dale> Cound anyone tell me what cupsys is for?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> printers
[05:39] <ubunturos> dale: for printers
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: what does dmesg say when you plug a usb device in?
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> dale: printing
[05:39] <dale> I dont use an printer for ubuntu, can i disable it?
[05:39] <kain__> nos can you help me please
[05:40] <dale> Without causing promblems.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> kain__,  i can try.. pastebin it. clarify your question. give the url.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> dale, why bother ?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> problems? what kind of problems?
[05:40] <dale> I am trying to disable things i dont need to improve performance.
[05:40] <kain__> DrWillis: http://pastebin.com/934728
[05:40] <os2mac> does anyone know if Thunderbird 2.0 is available or when it will be ?
[05:41] <kain__> sdb1 is the ext
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> dale: ah, I think you can disable it with a command without removing it completely.. just a sec
[05:41] <mattrperry> I have a card reader that is usb, when I plug in a card it auto-mounts and displays a link to it on my desktop
[05:41] <kain__> i don't know what sdcr1 is
[05:41] <BluesKaj> uhm dale, how can disabling a printer improve performance ?
[05:41] <kain__> when i mount the ext (turn it on) konqueror stalls when looking through the filesystem
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  looks like a typo to me on the last line.
[05:42] <kain__> when i turn it off and reboot we are all good
[05:42] <kain__> where?
[05:42] <kain__> on the sdcr1?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  so the fstab line is -->  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 auto users,defaults,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[05:42] <kain__> ok
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  yes sdcr1 makes no sence to me.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> sdc1 makes sence
[05:42] <kain__> can i just delete that line
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  No idea.. ya got a SDC1 ?
[05:42] <kain__> i do
[05:43] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to read up on how linux mounts things. and the proper format of the fstab file.
[05:43] <kain__> that must be my sd card reader
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: "sudo update-rc.d cupsys remove"
[05:43] <kain__> which isn't working yet either but the ext is more important right now
[05:43] <kain__> i just switched from longhorn to kubuntu
[05:43] <Dr_willis> as to the sdb1 thing...  you 'should' be able as a user use the command 'mount /media/sdb1' and it 'should' get mounted where a user can access the drive
[05:43] <Dr_willis> kain__,  HOWEVER..  this is a ext2/ext3 partition on the drive?
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> Sorry...not mattrperry, dale
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> dale:  "sudo update-rc.d cupsys remove"
[05:44] <kain__> no those are the internal drive
[05:44] <Dr_willis> kain__,  internal/external dosent matter.. What Filesystem is the drive?
[05:44] <kain__> the ext should have just one partition
[05:44] <kain__> NTFS i assume since all files came from a win machine
[05:44] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' should list all drives and what partitions are on them
[05:45] <Dr_willis> for ntfs. your fstab line is very very wrong then.
[05:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, my question remains, how can disabling a printer improve performance ?
[05:45] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: I show all the drives in the 'disk and file systems - system settings'
[05:45] <kain__> ok got that
[05:45] <Ashmaus> hello all
[05:45] <kain__> let me add that to the pastebin
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh IDK.... disabling services does help sometimes
[05:45] <Dr_willis> for ntfs For example - from My Laptop -->   /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:46] <kain__> you can go ahead and refresh that
[05:46] <Dr_willis> where hda1 you need to change to patch with whatever external drive ya got.
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: you see them all there?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:46] <kain__> i got the ntfs module
[05:46] <Dr_willis> kain__,  you need the fstab to be properly mounting the ntfs filesystem
[05:46] <kain__> what do i need to get to do to get the ext to work at all???? correctly i mean
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:47] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:47] <Dr_willis> is what I use for my laotop to mount my ntfs partition.
[05:47] <kain__> ok
[05:47] <BluesKaj> ok  nosrednaekim, like a daemon running in the background ...kind of minimal but i guess every little bit helps ('scuse the pun) in some setups :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> This is discussed in Detail at the !ntfs factoid and the Ntfs-linux faq/wiki pages.. and all over the internet. :)
[05:48] <killermach> I've had my usb keyboard stop several times, I have to unplug it an replug, very inconvenient, my USB mouse keeps working, is there a menu item I can click to rescan the bus to activate the keyboard again?
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats the idea.
[05:48] <Ashmaus> Somehow I screwed up my menu.lst (GRUB), can soneone tell me what the root part should be to boot xp from the first partition?
[05:49] <outtawedlock> !fgrlx
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgrlx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <ardchoille> !ati
[05:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> ashmaus: sure..
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Ashmaus,  the menu.lst file has an exaple for booting windows off the first hd/partition. I always just uncomment it. :)
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> ashmaus: you want the entry to boot a windows installation on the first partiton of your first HD?
[05:50] <ardchoille> Ashmaus: It might be a good idea to "sudo cp file file.backup" before editing system files.
[05:50] <kain__> DrWillis: so this should work? /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs users,defaults,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[05:50] <llutz> Ashmaus: root (hd0,0)
[05:50] <ke3> i can use beryl in a laptop with graphic card 128m ?
[05:50] <llutz> Ashmaus: chainloader +1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> kain__,  thhat was NOT the example i gave. Your extra options are Not correct. and for the most part not needed
[05:50] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Perhaps use
[05:50] <Ashmaus> ok, cool thanks. I couldn't find an example in there.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,users,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:51] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: yes...and I'm not sure if this is important or not...but when I plug a media card into my usb card reader, it auto-mounts and auto-links on desktop...and my windows ntfs and linux / partitions seem to auto-mount, however do not auto-link to desktop, however I notice that when I restart, as linux is shutting down, those ntfs and linux / partitions show up on the desktop for a second just before shutdown/restart...
[05:51] <kain__> ok so use your example and just change the first part?
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: oh yeah... I think I know how to fix that
[05:52] <kain__> DrWillis: is this better: /dev/sdb1  /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[05:53] <kicek> Witam xD
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: right click on desktop-> configure desktop-> Behavior->device icons
[05:53] <kicek> sa jacys polacy?
[05:54] <llutz> !pl | kicek
[05:54] <ubotu> kicek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:54] <marcelol> Hello...
[05:54] <kicek> thx ;]
[05:54] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: yeah I tried that...and I currently have everything selected
[05:54] <Dr_willis> kain__,  now try it and see if it works. :)
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: and you still don't see it?
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> but they are mounted?
[05:55] <kain__> DrWillis: it's complaining in Kate i don't have permissions to edit the fstab file how do i save or open as root?
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> i.e. you see them in /media
[05:55] <mw1> Tach
[05:55] <marcelol> anyone know why if I plug in an external USB drive kubuntu won't let me mount it
[05:55] <mw1> why is this in english
[05:55] <mw1> ?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> mw1, svensk ?
[05:55] <marcelol> maybe because some people are speaking in English ?
[05:56] <marcelol> nosrednaekim: yup....that would be today
[05:56] <mw1> yes but other people spek other languagres
[05:56] <llutz> !de|mw1
[05:56] <ubotu> mw1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> and their are other channels for those other people
[05:56] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: they show under /media with the exception of my usb external hd
[05:56] <marcelol> mw1: yes, and I don't understand what they're saying when they speak in their language..but you don't hear me complaining
[05:56] <BluesKaj> not here mw1...what language do you speak ?
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: that doesn't show anywhere?
[05:56] <mw1> i go away and think over my day
[05:56] <marcelol> mattrperry: you seem to have the same problem I do
[05:56] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  this is a NTFS drive?
[05:57] <marcelol> Dr_willis: yes
[05:57] <Dr_willis> kain__,  use 'sudo or ksudo, or the other methiods to get root access'
[05:57] <kain__> lol i'm going through the same thing
[05:57] <marcelol> I've tried two of them, and they both have the same problem
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:57] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: but no links on the desktop
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:57] <kain__> in shell?
[05:57] <kain__> or the gui?
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: is it listed with "mount"?
[05:57] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: llutz:  Ok, got it that was easy to do!  Thanks.
[05:57] <marcelol> but what's worse...is that the program "Disk Management" says there are no mount points that I can mount/unmount
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> run that command^^
[05:57] <shane2peru> changing label name that is.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> kain__,  using the SHELL.. the shell is our friend...
[05:57] <kain__> lol i know getting used to it
[05:58] <wolf> I have just install linux! Wow! It`s wonderfull!
[05:58] <kain__> so sudo something /etc/fstab ?
[05:58] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: what do you mean listed with 'mount'?
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> wolf:cool!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> kain__,  or ksudo keditoryoulike /etc/fstab
[05:58] <llutz> shane2peru: everything is easy if you know how to do it :)
[05:58] <dale> I <3 kubuntu, 10000x better than gnome+ubuntu
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: run "mount" in the terminal
[05:58] <wolf> How make in amarok rusiian tags?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> My Example fstab entry - that mounts my First Windows parttion --->  /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:59] <shane2peru> llutz: just a matter of learning.
[05:59] <kain__> keditoryoulike?
[05:59] <BluesKaj> !ru | wolf
[05:59] <ubotu> wolf:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:59] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: this is what it says:
[05:59] <mattrperry> mattperry@Kubuntu:~$ mount
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/sda2 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
[05:59] <mattrperry> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:59] <mattrperry> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[05:59] <mattrperry> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[05:59] <wolf>  <BluesKaj> How?
[05:59] <mattrperry> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:59] <mattrperry> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[05:59] <mattrperry> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:59] <mattrperry> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:59] <kain__> bash:ksudo command not found
[05:59] <mattrperry> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | mattrperry
[05:59] <ubotu> mattrperry: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/disk/by-uuid/0E98607598605D69 on /media/sda1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/disk/by-uuid/f1a944fc-2959-4f94-b42f-018cf404ad75 on /media/sdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[06:00] <marcelol> raises his hand.....uh....question
[06:00] <marcelol> why does this script mention Dapper....I'm running Feisty
[06:00] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  old script
[06:00] <marcelol> is there an equivalent script for Feisty ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: please put that in a pastebin!
[06:00] <marcelol> or...no difference ?
[06:00] <kain__> nevermind got it :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> highly likely also.
[06:00] <kain__> let's see if it works
[06:00] <kain__> do i need to reboot or just turn on the ext?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> kain__,  use the proper MOUNT command and it should read the fstab file and mount the partition
[06:01] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: sorry...don't know how?
[06:01] <kain__> lol what is that again
[06:01] <Dr_willis> 'sudo mount -a' will mount all automounted partitions in the fstab file
[06:01] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <marcelol> ( as an aside...I'm getting really tired of having to type my password for every "system" level change ....)
[06:02] <marcelol> Dr_willis: were you talking to me when you said "highly likely also" ?
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> marcelol: you mean on the command line?
[06:03] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26894/plain/
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: go to /media/disk
[06:04] <kain__> DrWillis YOU ARE THE MAN
[06:04] <Dr_willis> kain__,  it pays to learn the FUNdamentals
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:04] <kain__> DrWillis: same thing for my sd card reader?
[06:04] <marcelol> nosrednaekim: I mean via UI.....using sudo I can live with...but for every applet ...AdeptInstaller..yadda yadda....use the f'ing wallet already ...geez
[06:04] <kain__> thank you for helping me learn :)
[06:04] <kain__> i learned A TON
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> marcelol: ah.
[06:04] <kain__> thank you :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> kain__,  depends.. a sdcard reader MIGHT change /dev/whatever entries.
[06:05] <kain__> k
[06:05] <kain__> i appreciate it
[06:05] <Dr_willis> kain__,  whats odd is that Kubuntu/Ubuntu are 'supposed' to auto-see/mount the external usb gizmos automaticially. They do here.
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> here too
[06:05] <binks> here too
[06:05] <marcelol> just discovered something weird....ntfs-3g and ntfs-config weren't already installed...that's very odd
[06:05] <Dr_willis> by having an entry in fstab you disable that 'feature'
[06:05] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  they are not in kubuntu by default correct. I always install them first thing
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I never can rember their names however. :) I think my fstab entry was generated by ntfs-config
[06:06] <marcelol> Dr_willis: Yes...that's what troubles me....I thought kubuntu would've detected it auto-magically
[06:06] <marcelol> weird
[06:06] <marcelol> very weird
[06:06] <kain__> me three
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I dont have any external ntfs usb drives however. all vfat/ext2
[06:06] <kain__> now do i need to unmount every time
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: did you go there?
[06:06] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: that doesn't exist
[06:06] <schizm> I need monotone 0.35, but 0.33 is all that's available with apt-get...there is a bug logged about this that the ubuntu repository monotone is ancient but noone has responded to it.  Suggestions on what I can do?  Just grab the latest source and compile?
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry:  are you sure?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> kain__,  that line will check/mount it on boot  every time
[06:07] <kain__> k
[06:07] <dale> Does anyone know any tutorials to help me install 32bit swifitfox on 64 kubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_willis> kain__,  IF you remove the drive and reboot. you may get an error.  the 'noauto' option may  be needed if you remove the device/change it around a lot
[06:07] <kain__> what if i want to remove it while using the disk
[06:07] <kain__> ok
[06:07] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: if I go to /media/ there are all the drives listed there (with the exception of the usb ext hd)
[06:07] <Arwen> schizm, if you need a new version, compile it yourself
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> there is no "disk" entry?
[06:07] <Arwen> I can even help you do it if you want
[06:07] <kain__> so like if i was done with it now but still using the laptop what would i need to do
[06:08] <Dr_willis> also everyone note that /media/ is lacking some features that are in media:/ (in konqueror)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I m always using media:/  now a days.. theres some issues to watch out for however.
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: hmmm try going to "media:/"
[06:08] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> like Dr_willis says
[06:09] <kain__> can i just shut off the drive or do i need to unmount?
[06:09] <llutz> kain__: umount first
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> kain__: you need to unmount
[06:09] <kain__> where
[06:09] <kain__> when i right click i see no unmount option
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> kain__: do you see an icon for it on your desktop?
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> a safely remove option?
[06:10] <kain__> no
[06:10] <kain__> i see it in the storage media though
[06:10] <kain__> but no unmount option there either
[06:10] <Arwen> dale, you do it the same way you install 32bit firefox..
[06:10] <schizm> hm, compiling monotone myself won't help, various libboost and libregex dependancies that aren't satisfied either
[06:11] <Arwen> install ia32-libs, grab a package, untar it, and run "swiftfox"
[06:11] <schizm> don't want to go that in depth
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> kain__: odd.. I see unmount options
[06:11] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim:  media:/ did work and everything (incl the usb ext hd) is listed there
[06:11] <BluesKaj> ok, I've wiped all vestiges of windows off the HDD. However , now the partitions is still labelled as hda2 for/ and hda3 for the swap. Do I change the label/names in fstab or in system settings ..or both ?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: ok.. just use that then(rather odd though)
[06:11] <kain__> my icon is a folder not a drive if that matters
[06:11] <kain__> shell unmount command?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: it really doesn't matter
[06:11] <dale> Is it common for kubuntu to ask for the disk sometimes when installing stuff?
[06:11] <Arwen> schizm, hmm? "apt-get build-dep monotone", grab source, build, install.
[06:11] <Arwen> or, do you need a new version of the dependencies too?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no need to change names
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> dale: I've never seen it
[06:12] <dale> Hmmm...
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> dale: did it ask you?
[06:12] <padde> i need to add one option into my kernel, what's the easiest way to accomplish that?
[06:12] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: so now how do I have those show on my desktop?
[06:12] <chaplin_pat> How do I import the account settings in Thunderbird into Kmail?  I was able to import the messages but now need the account settings.
[06:13] <Arwen> dale, yeah, it actually is
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> padde: edit your menu.lst
[06:13] <Arwen> because if you installed from the alternate CD, K/X/Ubuntu will add it as a repository
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: no idea.
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: ah
[06:13] <padde> nosrednaekim: i mean not an option to the kernel, but a symbol inside the kernel, which seems not to be active in the default kubuntu configuration
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> bye all.
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> padde: you mean a module?
[06:14] <padde> nosrednaekim: Symbol: BRIDGE_NETFILTER
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> padde: I'm not sure.
[06:15] <padde> can I somehow install a kernel source tree with the default .config?
[06:15] <padde> (i'm kubuntu / debian noob, but linux is not new to me)
[06:15] <llutz> padde: default kubuntu: CONFIG_BRIDGE_NETFILTER=y
[06:15] <Arwen> padde, no, because Ubuntu uses proprietary kernels with weird options that generic ones won't accept.
[06:15] <marcelol> ntfs-config ran for me...but I can't f'ing mount the external drive still
[06:16] <mattrperry> when I click on the usb ext hd it gives me an error mssg 'hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000' does anyone know how to fix?
[06:16] <chaplin_pat> Can anyone help move account settings from Winxp Thunderbird to Kmail?  Is there a direct import?
[06:16] <padde> llutz: interesting... then i have to investigate further why iptables seems not to be able to process packets that pass through a bridge. thanks for the info.
[06:17] <marcelol> this really sucketh greatly, yea verily
[06:17] <ardchoille> lol
[06:17] <ardchoille> I love that olde grammar
[06:18] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, you can install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config to get access to your windows partition
[06:18] <marcelol> ntfs config doesn't give me a list of available partitions to choose
[06:19] <Arwen> or just ntfs-3g. ntfs-config is useless.
[06:19] <marcelol> funny...the wiki says to use ntfs-config
[06:20] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, make an ldif file out of the addressbook , then you'll be able to import it
[06:20] <wolf> !ru
[06:20] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:21] <marcelol> bbl
[06:25] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, thanks. I got the addresses just need the email account settings.  They didn't come across.
[06:27] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat , the email settings aren't transferable for security reasons I guess
[06:28] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, k.  That's specifically what I was looking for.  I would think kmail would have the ability to import them.  Thunderbird imports from Outlook...
[06:29] <BluesKaj> you mean your IMAP or POP3 and username etc , chaplin_pat ? ...I never bothered trying that
[06:31] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, I'm surprised you aren't using Thunderbird in Kubuntu
[06:33] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, I can and probably should to keep it simple.. I like the calendar feature of Kmail and it's more stable than Evo on the Dapper install.
[06:34] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, as for your previous post.... yep pop3 uname pass etc.
[06:34] <BluesKaj> ok chaplin_pat , thx , good to know :)
[06:38] <hashpenguin> can anyone tell me where to find howto for breezy to dapper upgrade?
[06:46] <outtawedlock> how do I install office 2003 on wine?  We don't know how Windows works, how can you expect us to write a 100% functional emulator?
[06:52] <ardchoille> Arwen: Actually it does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598  and  http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss
[06:52] <Arwen> ardchoille, I've tried, most just crash
[06:53] <Arwen> didn't you read the article? they didn't really work
[06:53] <ardchoille> this one did: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[06:54] <Arwen> ardchoille, but it was unable to spread past the fake wine fs. If it can't contaminate your system and load on boot, it hasn't worked.
[06:55] <ardchoille> Arwen: That one also infected his ~/.local folder.. $HOME is more important to me than the rest of the system.
[06:55] <Arwen> it didn't "infect" it since all it did was dump a bunch of trash in various places
[06:55] <Arwen> trash that didn't do anything, no less
[06:56] <ardchoille> Well, people who like wine are going to come up with all kinds of "reasoins" to justify using it.
[06:56] <outtawedlock> can at least give it  a shot?
[06:56] <dale> Will KDE4 be in kubuntu gusty?
[06:56] <Arwen> outtawedlock, yes, but judging from winehq's list of compatible programs, it won't even start
[06:56] <Jucato> dale: no.
[06:56] <dale> May i ask why?
[06:56] <Jucato> dale: there will be a separate repository for it
[06:57] <outtawedlock> what about koffice? Why isn't that installed in Kubuntu as default? Is that somewhat odd?
[06:57] <Jucato> and probably a separate CD
[06:57] <dale> ok thanks
[06:57] <Arwen> outtawedlock, because OpenOffice.org is better
[06:57] <Jucato> outtawedlock: it will be when KOffice 2.0 comes out (hopefully)
[06:57] <Jucato> at least that's the plan
[06:58] <Jucato> "better" is subjective. but the plan is to migrate to KOffice once 2.0 is out. it started with Kexi already in Edgy
[06:58] <sean__> hi, anybody know where I might start troubleshooting beryl crashing on launch
[06:58] <Edulix> hey
[06:59] <Edulix> what's the program that sets with access keys the sound in kde?
[06:59] <outtawedlock> Jucato: ohhh hot KDE4!!
[06:59] <Edulix> I need to configure it
[06:59] <outtawedlock> when will  KDE4 be out?
[06:59] <Arwen> sean__, yes, go post some the error messages, your xorg.conf, and your Xorg.0.log
[06:59] <Edulix> to select a different master chanel
[06:59] <Jucato> outtawedlock: October hopefully
[06:59] <Arwen> outtawedlock, don't yell. And I think in October/November
[06:59] <Jucato> Edulix: kmix?
[06:59] <outtawedlock> like Leopard lol
[06:59] <sean__> that's part of the problem, I can't find any error messages in the logs
[06:59] <Jucato> and Kubuntu 7.10
[06:59] <outtawedlock> I can see all over the news Leopard vs. KDE4
[06:59] <Edulix> Jucato: doesn't seems so
[07:00] <Arwen> sean__, well, let's see... what version of beryl? and hint, beryl is dead, use compiz.
[07:00] <Jucato> Edulix: run kmix, right-click on the kmix icon in the system tray
[07:00] <Arwen> also, try starting beryl from a terminal and let us know what it says when it crashes
[07:00] <sean__> beryl-core 0.2.1
[07:00] <Jucato> also, try #ubuntu-effects
[07:00] <Jucato> that's the channel for these things :)
[07:01] <Arwen> or #beryl. But anyway, beryl is dead, could I recommend that you start using compiz?
[07:01] <Edulix> Jucato: the thing is, I have configured the master  channel in kmix, and now changing the volume in it works fine, but with the function keys in my laptop it still doesn't change the volume, so it's not kmix
[07:01] <Jucato> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts?
[07:02] <sean__> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". - ah that must be the problem , thanks Arwen
[07:02] <Arwen> sean__, there we go, do you have 3d rendering?
[07:02] <Arwen> nvidia/ati/intel/evenmatrox?
[07:02] <sean__> I do for second life and googleearth
[07:03] <sean__> ati radeon
[07:03] <Arwen> sean__, ATI? or NVIDIA?
[07:03] <Arwen> free or closed drivers?
[07:03] <ryan_k> Hi. I am running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. Halting my system seems pretty quick...what in the system logs will indicate a successful shutdown?
[07:03] <Arwen> [Shutdown]  ?
[07:03] <sean__> that, I'm not too sure, I do recall it took me a while to get it going
[07:03] <Arwen> and shutting down is supposed to be quick
[07:03] <Arwen> sean__, "glxinfo | grep vendor"
[07:04] <sean__> mesa3d
[07:04] <sean__> that's free I think
[07:04] <ryan_k> right i used to use older hardware with mandriva and shutting down took a while...now i am using a much faster system and i see that term signlas have been sent etc but want to make sure everything is fine
[07:04] <Arwen> yeah, also "glxinfo | grep direct"
[07:05] <sean__> direct rendering: No
[07:05] <Arwen> there we go :-)
[07:05] <Arwen> you don't have 3d accel
[07:07] <sean__> that was yse a few minutes ago, but I changed the composites extension from 0 to 1
[07:07] <sean__> and then it failed
[07:07] <Arwen> sean__, oh, so you do have fglrx. It just crashed because you have composite 1
[07:07] <Arwen> you need to disable composite and install xserver-xgl (there's a guide somewhere)
[07:07] <sean__> someone told me it had to be for beryl
[07:07] <dale> What apps apart from kopete use the kde wallet?
[07:08] <Arwen> sean__, well, yes, but ATI drivers don't support it. You need it emulated in software.
[07:08] <sean__> ok, biab
[07:08] <ke3> i love the beryl
[07:08] <dale> beryl/compiz = compiz fusion
[07:08] <ke3> ye ye
[07:08] <knubbe> anyone who can help me install java (for firefox, JRE)? ive installed the packages from the repository, but it just doesnt work, it still says i need to install the JRE. same problem with mplayer.
[07:08] <Arwen> beryl = DEAD
[07:09] <Arwen> knubbe, which version of Ubuntu?
[07:09] <dale> Beryl WAS mcuh better than compiz.
[07:09] <Arwen> beryl *is* compiz
[07:09] <ke3> i have just beryl
[07:09] <Arwen> all the beryl project was doing was writing plugins for compiz
[07:09] <dale> When is compiz fusion going to realesed?
[07:09] <NickPresta> Arwen, it's been a while since I've read the post but Beryl and Compiz are merging back together "officially" on the next version release, correct?
[07:09] <ke3> any way i am happy with this shiit
[07:10] <knubbe> Arwen: latest kubuntu
[07:10] <dale> test
[07:10] <navets> hey do you guys know an open source program to like video tape your screen. haha i completly forget what its called
[07:10] <navets> hey do you guys know an open source program to like video tape your screen. haha i completly forget what its called
[07:10] <Arwen> NickPresta, that's *why* beryl is dead
[07:10] <NickPresta> navets, RecordMyDesktop
[07:10] <navets> sory double post
[07:10] <navets> thanks
[07:11] <dale> How many times have you guys installed kubuntu, everytime i break somethink I always find myself reinstalling it.
[07:11] <Arwen> knubbe, hmm, did you install 'sun-java6-jre' and 'sun-java6-plugin'?
[07:11] <NickPresta> dale, rarely do you have to reinstall a GNU+Linux OS when something goes wrong.
[07:12] <ke3> and nothing goes wrong in gnu+linux :-)
[07:12] <dale> I know, but i hate knowing that my system has problems.
[07:12] <knubbe> Arwen: yupp.
[07:13] <Arwen> knubbe, update-alternatives --config java. Try that
[07:13] <NickPresta> dale, like what?
[07:13] <BluesKaj> dale, problems can be fixed without reinstallation of the whole OS
[07:13] <dale> Ok, thanks
[07:13] <dale> How comes in irc channels only like 10% of the people connect actually talk?
[07:13] <dale> connected*
[07:14] <Arwen> hehe, because the rest are bots
[07:14] <sean____> Arwen, now I get No composite extension
[07:14] <Arwen> sean____, yes, you need to emulate it with Xgl
[07:14] <Arwen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty
[07:14] <sean____> hmm, how do i do that?
[07:14] <knubbe> Arwen: looks ok to me
[07:14] <dale> Whats the point in bots? I guess it kind of fools people to think that the channel is very popular?
[07:14] <sean____> thanks
[07:15] <ke3> know i understand why the linux people is so fan becouse i have for the last 2 months and i am too ;-)
[07:15] <knubbe> Arwen: since i couldnt install mplayer either, i assume the problem isnt java specific
[07:15] <BluesKaj> dunno dale , i never asked them :)
[07:15] <adaptr> dale various points thereof... documentation, for one:
[07:15] <dale> lol
[07:15] <adaptr> !doc
[07:15] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:15] <adaptr> banter, very important on slow, lonely nights
[07:15] <adaptr> and sometimes just for yelling at it
[07:16] <Arwen> knubbe, hmm
[07:16] <dale> I need to install a 32bit browser in my 64bit system, was thinking firefox, any recomendation?
[07:16] <adaptr> yeah, firefox
[07:16] <dale> need flash :P
[07:16] <Arwen> dale, yes, firefox. Go download it from mozilla.com, install "ia32-libs", and have fun.
[07:16] <dale> Thanks
[07:16] <knubbe> Arwen: i created a link to the .so-file in .mozilla/plugins, so i can use java now.
[07:17] <ke3> were i can fin themes for beryl ?
[07:17] <knubbe> Arwen: doesnt feel very good to do it that way though
[07:17] <Arwen> knubbe, ah, ok. Yeah, it just worked (tm) for me.
[07:17] <dale> Just curious, I have about 15 albums in my amarok, how many do you guys have?
[07:18] <Arwen> 2
[07:18] <Arwen> lol
[07:18] <dale> I dont really want to "bloat" it.
[07:18] <knubbe> 0
[07:18] <dale> Why so low?
[07:18] <Arwen> because buying music is for squares
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> I have 30 albums, but not in the actual playlist
[07:18] <dale> who said i bought it?
[07:19] <dale> ;)
[07:19] <Arwen> ..........
[07:19] <Arwen> pirating music is for cubes
[07:19] <dale> So you dont have music on your system?
[07:19] <ke3> how i can see the cube in beryl ?? plz
[07:19] <Arwen> ke3, hit "ctrl+alt+mouseclick"
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> ke3: or ctrl+alt+arrows
[07:20] <dale> So how many users are actually "active" her?
[07:20] <Arwen> about 5 :-)
[07:20] <dale> Are you serious?
[07:21] <ke3> wow my god !!!!!!!!!
[07:21] <ke3> Arwen !! thx amazing ;-)
[07:22] <dale> ke3: have you noticed the wobble feature when moving your windows?
[07:22] <NickPresta> I know this is not directly related to Kubuntu but does anyone else experience Beryl not remembering the window size of an application (specifically my Pidgin conversation window)?
[07:23] <dale> I would also like to know that!
[07:23] <ke3> i just see the same desktop in the all cube is normal?
[07:25] <rog> hhh
[07:25] <NickPresta> ke3, yes. Those are your virtual desktops. They're virtually identical ;)
[07:25] <ke3> oh forget i am stupid becouse i not open another windows
[07:26] <ke3> thz everybody thx linus tovalds thx stallman i love it ;-)
[07:27] <hilary> hello all =)
[07:27] <nosrednaekim> hilary: just lurking?
[07:28] <navets> hey how do I chang the settings of recordmydesktop
[07:29] <navets> is there a GUI?
[07:29] <NickPresta> navets, you need to download the GUI version - "gtk-RecordMyDesktop"
[07:29] <navets> can i apt0get that?
[07:30] <NickPresta> navets, yeah
[07:30] <hilary> nnoooo I'm having problems again nosred =(
[07:30] <hilary> some guy had helped me before by helping me use a proxy but now I think the problem I had yesterday is back
[07:30] <hilary> so now I dont know what to do =(
[07:32] <nosrednaekim> hilary: you use a proxy?
[07:32] <hilary> I never use to no, atleast I didnt think so
[07:33] <hilary> some guy told me to add an adress and some port numbers into the Proxy page on Mozilla
[07:33] <hilary> and it worked
[07:33] <hilary> I dont even know what a proxy is lolz
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> hilary: I don't know how to do proxies.
[07:36] <hilary> aawww
[07:36] <hilary> me neither :) its ok
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> do you remember the guy's name?
[07:36] <hilary> urmm
[07:37] <hilary> darkmagez
[07:37] <hilary> yeah its DarkmageZ
[07:37] <hilary> :)
[07:37] <hilary> hes not here now though
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> hilary: oh.
[07:38] <navets> humm installed gtk-RecordMyDesktop but i still dont get a GUI? what am i doing wrong?
[07:38] <hilary> if there was another proxy I could use
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> well... he's not around today it seems
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> !proxy
[07:38] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[07:38] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> !proxies
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <hilary> doesnt help me much =( silly bot lol
[07:40] <Arwen> ...actually, since Ubuntu bans proxies, that means people in China can't get support. Go figure.
[07:40] <hilary> hey Arwen =)
[07:40] <crocodile> is there a good non console irc client besides xchat and konversation?
[07:41] <Arwen> console? irssi
[07:41] <NickPresta> navets, the package name is actually "gtk-recordmydesktop". You have that, right?
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> GAIM.
[07:41] <Arwen> he said console....
[07:41] <Arwen> oh wait, non-console
[07:41] <NickPresta> and it's Pidgin now anyways :P
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> not really.
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> I was kidding
[07:41] <crocodile> Non-console
[07:41] <outtawedlock> what's hte difference between relative and symbolic link? I wanna create a symbolic link from /home/usr/My\ Music/ to /media/Multimedia/Mu\ Music/
[07:41] <Arwen> nope, konversation and xchat are the only good ones
[07:41] <outtawedlock> how do  I do that?
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> he said NON-console
[07:42] <Arwen> outtawedlock, relative links are a kind of symlink
[07:42] <navets> NickPresta: yes i have it
[07:42] <Arwen> ln -s <target of link> <name of link>
[07:42] <outtawedlock> ln -s /home/user/My\ Music/ /media/Multimedia/My\ Music/  ??
[07:42] <outtawedlock> will that work?
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: techinically i'm still using GAIM
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> O:-)
[07:42] <outtawedlock> ohh
[07:42] <outtawedlock> the other way around
[07:42] <crocodile> so is there anything?  Xchat drives me mad the way it displays nicknames in chat
[07:42] <outtawedlock> well that's weird
[07:42] <Arwen> outtawedlock, yes
[07:42] <outtawedlock> name of link at the end
[07:43] <Arwen> or the other way if that's not what you want
[07:43] <Arwen> make sure you remember the "-s" or else it'll hard link em which is probably not what you want
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: you could use kopete
[07:44] <navets> how do i get the GUI to appear for recordmy desktop
[07:44] <navets> i installed gtk-RecordMyDesktop but dont see a gui anywhere
[07:45] <navets> nevermind i found it!
[07:45] <navets> thanks
[07:47] <metal> any one know if exist kubuntu sourcelist generator ?
[07:47] <Schuenemann> can I use KDE 3.5.7 with edgy?
[07:48] <Jucato> Schuenemann: nope. no packages available. only for feisty
[07:48] <Schuenemann> k...
[07:48] <outtawedlock> OMG!!! is there a dictionary for Kubuntu or a SuperKaramba applet?
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> !source-o-matic | metal
[07:49] <ubotu> metal: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:49] <metal> ubotu ty
[07:49] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: yes to both
[07:50] <outtawedlock> nosrednaekim: which ones?
[07:52] <mike_> yo
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: search adept for the dictionary, search kde-look for the applet
[07:52] <outtawedlock> nosrednaekim: can't you tell me the name?
[07:53] <outtawedlock> that'd be faster
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: I forgot it...
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> sory
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> but I know there is one
[07:53] <outtawedlock> ok
[07:55] <hilary> ggrrr! how could it just stop working! =(
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> hilary: go to #ubuntu
[07:56] <navets> hey does anyone know if there is a way to get recordmydesktop to output avi files?
[07:56] <Arwen> navets, what does it output right now? AVI sucks.
[07:56] <navets> Arwen: it outputs ogg
[07:56] <Arwen> OGG > AVI
[07:56] <Arwen> nuff said
[07:56] <plontaj> hello :D
[07:56] <Schuenemann> who is this nuff everybody talks about?
[07:57] <Schuenemann> !nuff
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <plontaj> Everybody know how configure optimal wine?
[07:57] <plontaj> ? ? ?
[07:57] <Arwen> plontaj, optimal wine? just let it ripen.
[07:58] <ardchoille> lol
[07:58] <dale> Where can i learn about irc'ing
[07:58] <BluesKaj> 'nuff ... vernacular for enough , Schuenemann
[07:58] <outtawedlock> kdict isno't showing up in Kubuntu menu
[07:58] <outtawedlock> what's wrong?
[07:58] <ardchoille> dale: http://freenode.net is a good place to start
[07:58] <dale> Thanks
[07:59] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, ohh.... thanks heh
[08:00] <BluesKaj> wow, the aim generation doesn't know about irc ... 'suppose it was inevitable
[08:00] <Schuenemann> or the msn generation...
[08:00] <NickPresta> heh
[08:00] <BluesKaj> yup, aim sounds better :)
[08:00] <Schuenemann> where I live, ICQ died and AIM never existed
[08:01] <BluesKaj> ICQ ... tried it once ..what a zoo
[08:01] <BluesKaj> full of airheads
[08:01] <coreymon77> msn genereation knows plenty about irc
[08:01] <Schuenemann> MSN is the mostly used because it already comes with windows, of course
[08:01] <coreymon77> many people form it atleast
[08:02] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, in the US, more people use AIM than MSN, it seems and in Canada, more people use MSNM
[08:02] <dale> msn is the most popular client, where i live everyone hasit. and nothink else.
[08:02] <coreymon77> i could be considered part of the "msn generation" and im on irc all the time
[08:02] <Schuenemann> because AOL is well known there, I suppose
[08:03] <dale> Aol sucks
[08:03] <llutz> even we old usenet-users had to learn what irc/aim/icq means :)
[08:03] <dale> I used to have AOL, changd to virgin media.
[08:03] <coreymon77> did you guys know that icq was made by israelis?
[08:03] <BluesKaj> heh just goes to show,  NickPresta , that I'm ignorant of both and i'm in canada too :)
[08:04] <Schuenemann> yes, by mirabilis
[08:04] <outtawedlock> is there a better dictionary other than no-name bradn kdict? At least I expect Merrian Webster or Oxford Dictionary
[08:04] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:04] <llutz> coreymon77: icq is evil, so who cares
[08:04] <Schuenemann> MSN (protocol) sucks and MSN (client) sucks
[08:04] <dale> Incanada what language is used the most? english or french?
[08:04] <coreymon77> english
[08:04] <coreymon77> by far
[08:05] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I'm going to a meeting about imigration to Canada on monday :-)
[08:05] <outtawedlock> coreymon77: why?
[08:05] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, :>)
[08:05] <coreymon77> i really dont get where everyone gets the whole, everyone in canada speaks french as there first language idea form
[08:05] <coreymon77> from*
[08:05] <coreymon77> sure, i have had to learn french in school
[08:05] <dale> English is better :P
[08:05] <coreymon77> but english is still my first language
[08:05] <BluesKaj> Quebec media coreymon77:)
[08:06] <Schuenemann> the imigration is to Quebec, they want people interested in learning french
[08:06] <dale> But also the USA uses english.
[08:06] <outtawedlock> I am looking for a Oxford Dictionary app and applet anyone know anbout it?
[08:06] <NickPresta> coreymon77, that's a stereotype - very few people in Canada speak French unless they actually want/need to. You don't have to take High School French after Grade 9 so many people don't know how to carry on a conversation in French
[08:06] <coreymon77> NickPresta: im canadian too
[08:06] <ubunturos> outtawedlock: may be you can configure kdict for it
[08:06] <coreymon77> NickPresta: i know that
[08:06] <dale> Does anyone here think the usa  is sort of changing it language to just an american language?
[08:07] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, well, I met a guy from Canada and he can only speak french
[08:07] <BluesKaj> Americans vist Quebec and think it's representative of the whole country
[08:07] <dale> Like icebox, cookie etc..
[08:07] <outtawedlock> ubunturos: ah ok I didn't know
[08:07] <NickPresta> coreymon77, I misread what you said earlier. I thought you were saying that everyone can speak French, not that others think everyone can speak French. My mistake =)
[08:07] <ubunturos> outtawedlock: well, I'm not to sure. But there must be a options to do it
[08:07] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:07] <coreymon77> Schuenemann: well of course, and ive met americans who can only speak spanish
[08:07] <BluesKaj> a mountie on horseback on everycorner :)
[08:07] <coreymon77> does that mean that the whole countryonly speaks spanish?
[08:07] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, born there? hehe
[08:07] <TrueFX> hol a
[08:08] <TrueFX> salut tout le monde
[08:08] <TrueFX> tout le monde parle en franais
[08:08] <dale> No country has just on language due to imagration.
[08:08] <TrueFX> c'est vrai
[08:08] <NickPresta> the whole world does not speak french :(
[08:08] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, of course not, but I thought everybody spoke english (at least) there
[08:08] <Schuenemann> !fr | TrueFX
[08:08] <ubotu> TrueFX: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:08] <TrueFX> non non nous parlions en franais oui nous parlons en franais
[08:08] <BluesKaj> en francais tout le monde ...what arrogance
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <TrueFX> pardon me
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <NickPresta> hehe
[08:08] <TrueFX> i ve got a question
[08:08] <dale> bonjour!
[08:08] <TrueFX> i ve been warned
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <TrueFX> ok
[08:09] <TrueFX> ive just installed windows in another hard disk drive
[08:09] <dale> tut tut
[08:09] <TrueFX> and i want to have a dual boot system
[08:09] <TrueFX> can i do that by rerunning grub?
[08:09] <TrueFX> if so how?
[08:09] <TrueFX> i dont want to do it manually
[08:09] <Schuenemann> TrueFX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:09] <kharloss> hi  .  my kde K button and kde bar dissapear . how can i restore it ?
[08:10] <TrueFX> normally when i install windows first and then kubuntu it recognazie it automatically
[08:10] <NickPresta> TrueFX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[08:10] <kharloss> probbably i close it ..
[08:10] <Jucato> kharloss: press Alt+F2 and type "kicker"
[08:10] <TrueFX> is there not a way to do it automatically?
[08:10] <NickPresta> TrueFX, not that I know of.
[08:10] <Schuenemann> read the link... it's not a lot of work
[08:10] <TrueFX> probing operating systems
[08:10] <TrueFX> ok
[08:11] <BluesKaj> the above is as automatic as it gets
[08:11] <BluesKaj> unless you want to DL and burn a SuperGrb disk and run that at bootup, TrueFX
[08:11] <BluesKaj> err superGrub
[08:12] <kharloss> Jucato: nothing happened ..
[08:12] <Jucato> kharloss: Press Ctrl+Esc and check in the list if kicker is running
[08:13] <kharloss> yes  it`s running ..
[08:13] <NickPresta> kharloss, if worse comes to worst and no solution works, just restart X (Control+Alt+Delete)
[08:13] <kharloss> i restarted twice
[08:13] <Jucato> kharloss: Press Alt+F2, "kcontrol", then go to Desktop -> Panels and try changing the Arrangement or Hiding settings.
[08:14] <kharloss> nothing happened .. i use auto hide after 5 sec .. but i guess i closed ..
[08:14] <dale> I install ubuntu on a friends machine who has an ati card, and he want to play games. :P lool
[08:14] <kharloss> thanks a lot
[08:15] <outtawedlock> dale: tell him to get a PS3 or something
[08:15] <kharloss> it`s working .
[08:15] <coreymon77> outtawedlock: you mean a wii right?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> dale, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide... this will help him run games
[08:15] <dale> Thanks
[08:16] <ubunturos> kharloss: so, did you restart X to bring back the panel?
[08:17] <mtv> i have recently update my ubuntu install to fiesty.  I have downloaded the correct kernel header files, but vmware server is looking for C header files in usr/src/linux/include.  This is my first time dealing with this.  I know that there is an include folder within the generic kernel i downloaded.  I do i make vmware point to that without giving me the error,"..but does not contain a "linux subdirectory as expected'?
[08:19] <el_isma> Hi! I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> what's that package for KDE games?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> to get the whole collection?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:20] <el_isma> outtawedlock: kdegames
[08:20] <basse> "kdegames"
[08:20] <NickPresta> Our of curiosity, has anyone here purchased the Dellbuntus?
[08:20] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:27] <el_isma> Hi! I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:29] <hilary> =(
[08:30] <dale> How can i edit the kde menu?
[08:31] <llutz> dale: kmenuedit
[08:31] <outtawedlock> are there any other useful KDE apps that don't with Kubuntu default?
[08:32] <ubunturos> dale: in Alt+F2
[08:32] <dale> yes
[08:32] <dale> found it thanks
[08:32] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: that don't come installed by default, you mean?
[08:32] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: yeah
[08:32] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: I really really like Basket
[08:32] <outtawedlock> that's what I meant
[08:33] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: what does that do?
[08:33] <el_isma> outtawedlock: I like yakuake, it's a terminal that looks like quake's terminal
[08:33] <Jucato> dale: right-click on the K Menu icon
[08:33] <outtawedlock> oh
[08:33] <el_isma> outtawedlock: or Knotes. Postit notes. (I don't remember if it comes by default or not)
[08:33] <Jucato> outtawedlock: basket.kde.org
[08:33] <outtawedlock> el_isma: knotes, that's a good one
[08:34] <Jucato> outtawedlock: there are lots of other KDE apps. just have to search through the repositories, maybe some in kde-apps.org are in the repositories, etc
[08:34] <outtawedlock> wait, knotes and basket do the same thing?
[08:34] <dale> I get this error when starting apps in command line.
[08:34] <dale> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[08:34] <dale>   Major opcode:  147
[08:34] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: it kind of replaces knotes with less messy note system :)
[08:34] <dale>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:34] <dale>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:34] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: but some people use both, I suppose
[08:34] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: oh thanks
[08:34] <Schuenemann> dale, as I know, that's harmless
[08:34] <dale> Failed to open device
[08:35] <dale> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[08:35] <dale>   Major opcode:  147
[08:35] <dale>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:35] <dale>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:35] <dale> Failed to open device
[08:35] <dale> Does anyone know what it is?
[08:35] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | dale
[08:35] <ubotu> dale: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <el_isma> dale: don't flood!
[08:35] <ubunturos> dale: you should usually paste these in something called as paste bin
[08:35] <dale> Have you cam accross it before?
[08:35] <dale> sorry!!
[08:36] <outtawedlock> is there a note app that I can use with a input pen and use my own penmanship?
[08:36] <el_isma> dale: That is harmless. It means some device could be located... I see it all the time because ubuntu loads -by default- a watcom tablet, I don't have one, so it cannot locate it
[08:38] <ardchoille> el_isma: You can comment out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf and that error will go away
[08:38] <ardchoille> dale: ^^
[08:38] <hilary> Can someone be kind enough to try and help me =(
[08:39] <el_isma> ardchoille: I know, I'm just too lazy :)
[08:39] <ardchoille> hilary: Help with what?
[08:39] <ardchoille> el_isma: hahaha
[08:39] <enry> goodbye!
[08:39] <dale> ok thanks
[08:40] <hilary> I'm having strange problems. All of my messengers are active and working, and I do have an internet ocnnection. But my Mozilla firefox fails to find any webpages, it hangs for abit then says "Server has Timedout"
[08:40] <hilary> and it does this with the Konquerer web browser too
[08:40] <hilary> someone before gave me some proxy settings to input before, and it fixed it for about.. 8 hours
[08:40] <a-865> is IPV6 enabled by default in Feisty?
[08:40] <hilary> but the same problem has occured again
[08:40] <BluesKaj> a-865, yes
[08:41] <dale> how can i comment out "wacom" it comes up several times.
[08:41] <a-865> BluesKaj: where do I turn it off?
[08:41] <dale>  Driver         "wacom"
[08:41] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[08:41] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:41] <BluesKaj> a-865,hangon
[08:41] <BluesKaj> there you go ;)
[08:41] <ardchoille> hilary: You might try disabling ipv6 per that page ubotu just posted.
[08:41] <hilary> I cant click URL's
[08:42] <a-865> BluesKaj: thx :)
[08:42] <hilary> my browser just hangs when I try to click URL's
[08:42] <hilary> well not hangs but it says it times out
[08:42] <hilary> if you get me =( I hope you do
[08:42] <mordaunt> will kubuntu automatically mount firewire drives?
[08:42] <ardchoille> Yeah
[08:42] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, IPv6 wouldn't necessarily cause a hang like that
[08:42] <Arwen> hilary, you need to edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add "blacklist ipv6" to it.
[08:42] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, ok
[08:43] <hilary> want to guide me through how I do that?
[08:43] <hilary> If you would be so kind? =P
[08:43] <Arwen> hilary, ...you do that with a text editor...
[08:44] <ardchoille> hilary: Is your wget working?
[08:44] <llutz> hilary: open a console and type: sudo echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:44] <Arwen> hilary, then, run "sudo rmmod ipv6"
[08:45] <hilary> ok ok hold on
[08:47] <Schuenemann> llutz, that echo appends it to the file?
[08:47] <hilary> when I type the bit that you said Arwen, I get "ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use"
[08:47] <llutz> Schuenemann: yes
[08:47] <Arwen> hilary, ah, then you'll have to reboot
[08:47] <llutz> Schuenemann: >> appends
[08:47] <Schuenemann> cool
[08:47] <Arwen> > = replace, >> = append
[08:47] <Arwen> don't know about >>>
[08:47] <hilary> =)
[08:47] <hilary> ok i'll be back
[08:48] <llutz> Arwen: not defined in bash afaik
[08:48] <BluesKaj> uhhhm, methinks hilary had a browser open
[08:48] <Schuenemann> I think he didn't append the line
[08:49] <Arwen> llutz, ok
[08:49] <el_isma> I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:49] <Arwen> BluesKaj, more like, she had ipconfig up not down
[08:52] <theotick> !konsole
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:53] <TrueFX> what are the best books on debian system administration
[08:53] <TrueFX> and for making life easy in kubuntu or debian derivated operating systems?
[08:53] <llutz> TrueFX: http://www.debian-administration.org/
[08:53] <CUITO> hello i have some problem.....I use LILO but i want to change to GRUB(I only want...that i can boot my other OS(Windows XP)....LILO only boot Kubuntu i cant even choose which OS that is going to be booted.Can somone help me?
[08:55] <llutz> CUITO: sudo aptitude remove lilo && sudo aptitude install grub               should do it
[08:55] <hilary> back
[08:56] <CUITO> thanks
[08:57] <a-865> BluesKaj: dunno why, but smbmount wasn't working with IPv6 enabled. now it works.
[08:58] <BluesKaj> good , a-865 , prolly cuz your other network pc's still use IPv4
[08:59] <a-865> BluesKaj: pretty sure OS/2 has no idea what IPv6 is ;-)
[08:59] <BluesKaj> it's an internet protocol
[09:00] <a-865> one that's considerably younger than 20 years old
[09:00] <TrueFX> pardon me
[09:00] <TrueFX> how can i see the version of a program
[09:00] <TrueFX> for exemple grub
[09:01] <jzilla> Good Afternoon, Friends.
[09:02] <llutz> TrueFX: append "--version", works with most of them
[09:02] <CUITO> hello again
[09:02] <CUITO> That command dont worked :(
[09:02] <CUITO> llutz
[09:03] <llutz> CUITO: errormessages?
[09:03] <CUITO> no it launch lilo and lilo launch kubuntu
[09:03] <CUITO> ..but
[09:03] <TrueFX> llutz:thx a lot
[09:04] <CUITO> i changed the flag on windows partition to boot when i was in gparted
[09:04] <CUITO> and it launched windows
[09:05] <CUITO> and there i found PQboot and there it where that kubuntu hould launch and i restarted and now i am here ...
[09:05] <CUITO> should=hould
[09:05] <llutz> CUITO: i gave you a command to be done in kubuntu. no idea what pqboot is
[09:06] <CUITO> a booter
[09:06] <CUITO> that i cant remove....
[09:08] <CUITO> i did that command in kubuntu
[09:08] <CUITO> ...
[09:08] <akrus> hello, is it possible to set amarok's language to english?
[09:08] <akrus> I have russian language pack installed :x
[09:08] <akrus> just there're too many 'BROKEN TRANSLATION' strings :x
[09:12] <a-865> BluesKaj: now if only I could make audio CDs quit ejecting before I'm done with them :-(
[09:12] <outtawedlock> youtube works in Firefox not in Konqueror and Konq has java globally enabled
[09:13] <outtawedlock> what's wrong?'
[09:13] <Arwen> YouTube is flash, not Java...
[09:13] <outtawedlock> well I have that one as well
[09:15] <Arwen> outtawedlock, meh, use Firefox then?
[09:16] <outtawedlock> Arwen: is that the solution??!! he? just to evade the problem instead of finding a fix???
[09:16] <Arwen> don't yell
[09:16] <Arwen> !attitude | outtawedlock
[09:16] <outtawedlock> how was that command line install firefrost?
[09:16] <ubotu> outtawedlock: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:16] <outtawedlock> sudo dpkg -i foo
[09:16] <Arwen> I don't know anything else, ok?
[09:16] <Arwen> mm?
[09:20] <BluesKaj> outtawedlock, check in konq settings/configure/plugins/scan for new plugins/save and apply
[09:22] <akrus> outtawedlock: Konqueror works well with youtube
[09:22] <draik> I have Feisty on my laptop. Updated the repos. Why can't I get ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:22] <akrus> at least for me :)
[09:23] <akrus> draik: error message?
[09:23] <draik> akrus: one sec....
[09:23] <mindslant> I often have to restart kubuntu feisty on my laptop to get the sound to work, any ideas?
[09:23] <outtawedlock> is this alright?
[09:23] <akrus> outtawedlock: what version?
[09:23] <outtawedlock> sudo dpkg -i foo?
[09:24] <akrus> which*
[09:24] <outtawedlock> akrus: fiesta
[09:24] <akrus> foo? xD
[09:24] <akrus> well
[09:24] <akrus> i'm under gutsy atm
[09:24] <akrus> Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if
[09:24] <akrus> konqueror-nsplugins is installed.
[09:24] <akrus> that's from repository
[09:24] <enzo_> akrus: here is the error message...
[09:24] <xultz> good day, folks!
[09:25] <enzo_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:25] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:25] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:25] <[Al] chemist_ex> I think there was someone else who had mindslant's problem wasn't there?  I think it was due to the kernel update...
[09:25] <draik> akrus: enzo is my laptop
[09:25] <outtawedlock> akrus: I thought nonfree-flash would do the job
[09:25] <akrus> outtawedlock: so could you type: sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins
[09:25] <outtawedlock> guess I was wrong
[09:25] <draik> akrus: enzo_ is my laptop
[09:25] <akrus> ok :)
[09:25] <[Al] chemist_ex> Mindslant, you might try an older kernel when you restart.
[09:25] <draik> enzo is someone else :(
[09:25] <akrus> so type that before installing '-desktop'
[09:26] <draik> type what?
[09:26] <xultz> I am trying to watch a .avi file with mplayer, but it says that I dont have avisynth.dll installed. I installed the codecs from Automatix, but I doesnt have that .dll instead. Where can I find a package with that .dll file, please?
[09:26] <akrus> sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb
[09:26] <Arwen> xultz, you FAIL. Don't use automatix, it sucks.
[09:26] <akrus> and afterwards do the installation
[09:26] <[Al] chemist_ex> mindslant, you might try an older kernel when you restart.
[09:26] <akrus> i believe these packages are outdated
[09:26] <TrueFX> hi guys
[09:26] <xultz> sorry, Arwen, I didnt know about that, I am new to Ubuntu
[09:26] <Arwen> that said, you need to fix mplayer's codecs.conf. It's trying to fallback to avisynth because your config files are malformed
[09:27] <akrus> xultz: what's with xine?
[09:27] <TrueFX> i ve got i usb disk 16 mb
[09:27] <TrueFX> how can i format it ?
[09:27] <TrueFX> i want to play grub loader to it
[09:27] <outtawedlock> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:27] <TrueFX> i dont have a floppy disk under my hand
[09:27] <akrus> outtawedlock: hm, enable repositories? o_O
[09:27] <BluesKaj> !w32codecs | xultz
[09:27] <ubotu> xultz: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:27] <Arwen> xultz, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but lots of people break their systems with automatix
[09:27] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ...that's not the answer
[09:27] <akrus> use Synaptic :D
[09:27] <Arwen> xultz, do you know what codec the audio and video in your AVI are?
[09:27] <TrueFX> is there a way to do that?
[09:28] <xultz> I dont know whats wrong with xine, but he is really slow here, compared to mplayer
[09:28] <xultz> thank you Blueskaj, I will take a look
[09:28] <Arwen> hehe, anyway, xultz, please tell us more about the AVI? what kind of video is in it?
[09:28] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg , libxine-extracodecs
[09:28] <Arwen> or go ahead and ignore perfectly good advice, geez...
[09:29] <xultz> in fact, I am trying to download a video from youtube
[09:29] <Arwen> trying? so you can't download it?
[09:29] <xultz> I founded a script that works over Kommander that does the job
[09:29] <mindslant> thx alchemist
[09:29] <TrueFX> how can i format i usb drive in kubuntu?
[09:29] <[Al] chemist_ex> you know how to do that yes?
[09:29] <Arwen> (why do I even try?)
[09:29] <xultz> I can download as .flv, but I wish to create a DVD
[09:29] <BluesKaj> Arwen, yer so absolutley absolute about everything
[09:29] <TrueFX> in order to load grub in it?
[09:30] <enzo_> akrus: New issue...
[09:30] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Depends: openoffice.org-common (< 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed or
[09:30] <enzo_>                                       language-support-en but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <enzo_>                              Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:30] <xultz> with DVD Styler, so I must convert it to mpeg in a way
[09:30] <TrueFX> by using command line or gui interface?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | enzo
[09:30] <ubotu> enzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <enzo_> Sorry
[09:30] <TrueFX> join #kubuntu-fr
[09:30] <xultz> I found some linecodes to use ffmpeg but none of them worked
[09:31] <akrus> okay
[09:31] <akrus> back again
[09:31] <draik> I can't install mjpegtools or qdvdauthor. Actually, I can't do much of anything anymore because many repos have been removed for Edgy
[09:31] <outtawedlock> thanks it worked after rescanning
[09:31] <akrus> enzo_: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-za #die you unneeded package
[09:31] <akrus> this might help :)
[09:31] <BluesKaj> xultz, you'll find ffmpeg , libxine-extracodecs insynaptic or adept
[09:31] <jhutchins> xultz: Have a look at tovid.  It's a package of scripts (and a couple GUI's) to convert various formats of video and prepare them for burning as a standard DVD.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> tovid rocks !
[09:32] <xultz> Blues, I have ffmpeg but it gives me a error, maybe a wrong option
[09:32] <xultz> I will try tovid
[09:32] <akrus> TrueFX: you may try KMFormat formatting tool
[09:32] <draik> akrus: #die ?
[09:32] <TrueFX> ok
[09:32] <akrus> draik: kidding, it's just a comment
[09:32] <TrueFX> another question
[09:33] <TrueFX> how can i see where is my usb device?
[09:33] <TrueFX> under /dev
[09:33] <akrus> draik: you may try purge instead of remove
[09:33] <TrueFX> usb portable device
[09:33] <akrus> TrueFX: dmesg|tail right after you connected it :)
[09:33] <xultz> adept doenst know tovid, where can I found a package for him?
[09:33] <mike_> bah!
[09:33] <mike_> Where is  the UBUNTU channel!
[09:33] <mike_> :O
[09:33] <akrus> mike_: /j #ubuntu
[09:33] <draik> akrus: Ok. Thank you. It's installing.
[09:33] <akrus> draik: you're welcome :)
[09:33] <jhutchins> !find tovid
[09:33] <mike_> w00t
[09:33] <mike_> ty :O)
[09:33] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in feisty
[09:33] <xultz> !find tovid
[09:33] <akrus> lololol
[09:33] <draik> akrus: Not as much as I am thankful for the help
[09:34] <akrus> what's tovid? :)
[09:34] <jhutchins> That's... remarkably short-sighted...
[09:34] <akrus> draik: :)
[09:34] <jhutchins> http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[09:34] <akrus> lemme check~
[09:34] <jhutchins> Since it is scripts, dependencies don't matter much, and it's safe to install it directly from CVS.
[09:34] <akrus> Wikia? o_O
[09:35] <akrus> isn't it the version of Wikipedia?
[09:35] <xultz> there are no packages with tovid? So I must download from the main page?
[09:35] <akrus> which has jokes and nothing more
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: likely
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: there it is!
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Tovid
[09:36] <akrus> download .deb for your architecture (x86/amd64)
[09:36] <draik> Anyone here using qdvdauthor?
[09:36] <draik> I can't install it
[09:36] <draik> along with mjpegtools
[09:37] <akrus> draik: error message? :x
[09:37] <jhutchins> Here is a debian .deb for tovid: http://tovid.sourceforge.net/download/debian/pool
[09:37] <outtawedlock> KDE icons are awfully jagged, are there any SVG themes?
[09:37] <xultz> I install it with dpkg -i tovid...deb?
[09:37] <akrus> outtawedlock: KDE4
[09:38] <akrus> xultz: yep
[09:38] <xultz> let me try it
[09:38] <akrus> jhutchins: getdeb.net is nice with feisty :)
[09:39] <TrueFX> how can i run kmformat?
[09:39] <TrueFX> ive installed it with apt-get install kmformat
[09:39] <TrueFX> but when i use run command ->kmformat
[09:39] <TrueFX> it cant be found
[09:39] <TrueFX> and i cant find it in my kmenu too ?
[09:39] <TrueFX> where is it installed?
[09:39] <outtawedlock> when using wine do I run the ISO or something?
[09:40] <TrueFX> neither with whereis command on konsole
[09:40] <xultz> I have a lot of depencies failing, is it possible to dpkg download the dependencies? Or I need to install one by one by hand?
[09:40] <jhutchins> TrueFX:  dpkg -L kmformat
[09:41] <draik> !source-o-matic
[09:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:41] <jhutchins> TrueFX: Being a system-level thing, a command to format something is probably in /usr/sbin, which is not in the regular user's path, intended for use only by root.
[09:41] <TrueFX> ok i see thx
[09:41] <TrueFX> yet another questino
[09:42] <TrueFX> i ve got a usb driver whcih i wnat to format
[09:42] <TrueFX> i donno its name in /dev/ directory
[09:42] <TrueFX> how is it named
[09:42] <TrueFX> how can i find usb drives names in kubuntu
[09:42] <TrueFX> i can list it with lsusb command on konsole
[09:42] <TrueFX> i dont want to format wrong drives
[09:43] <jhutchins> open a console.  tail -f /var/log/messages. Plug in the drive, watch what it's assigned.
[09:46] <akrus> TrueFX: KMFormat displays the size :)
[09:47] <TrueFX> yep
[09:47] <TrueFX> yet another question
[09:47] <TrueFX> how can i run KMFormat as root?
[09:47] <TrueFX> it does not format my usb drive
[09:47] <TrueFX> produce an error probably coz of permissions
[09:48] <akrus> kdesu KMFormat
[09:48] <noloved> do I need a pplug in for K3B to brun ISOS?
[09:48] <TrueFX> how can i possibly run any program as root
[09:48] <akrus> kdesu <any_program>
[09:48] <noloved> it keeps saying not recognized plugin
[09:48] <akrus> :)
[09:48] <TrueFX> again error
[09:48] <TrueFX> error during formattting?
[09:48] <TrueFX> without any clue on what the erros is
[09:48] <akrus> xultz: sudo apt-get install <name>
[09:49] <akrus> TrueFX: open konsole
[09:49] <TrueFX> ok
[09:49] <TrueFX> so?
[09:49] <akrus> TrueFX: which file system?
[09:49] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how to get X working on a MacBook Pro?
[09:49] <TrueFX> it does not matter with which file system i wnatto format
[09:49] <Pupeno> noloved: no.
[09:49] <TrueFX> i produce an error
[09:49] <akrus> mkfs.ext3 -v /dev/sdXX
[09:50] <TrueFX> file:///home/hasan/Desktop/Nessus
[09:50] <akrus> where sdXX something like sdc1
[09:50] <noloved> Pupeno: weird, I've tried with several bin/cue files by clicking cue and tells me that
[09:50] <Pupeno> noloved: those are not ISOs.
[09:50] <akrus> lol yep :x
[09:51] <noloved> Pupeno: how I am supposed to burn those?
[09:51] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:51] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:51] <TrueFX> mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sdc1
[09:51] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan#
[09:51] <akrus> TrueFX: there's a dot right after mkfs
[09:51] <akrus> mkfs.ext3
[09:51] <akrus> :)
[09:51] <akrus> and add '-v'
[09:52] <akrus> it's verbose
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:52] <TrueFX> mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan#
[09:52] <akrus> wait
[09:52] <akrus> DOT!
[09:52] <akrus> POINT!
[09:52] <Pupeno> noloved: I don't know. Thankfully I've never had to deal with those weird formats.
[09:52] <akrus> mkfs<dot>ext3
[09:52] <akrus> :)
[09:52] <akrus> and is it sdc1 on your pc?
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:52] <TrueFX> /dev/sdc1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[09:52] <TrueFX> pardon i ve copied wrong thing
[09:53] <akrus> :x
[09:53] <akrus> thank god it was mounted
[09:53] <TrueFX> what's wrong now?
[09:53] <Pupeno> noloved: but if you search for "linux burn bin" or "linux burn cue" in some web searcher, you're likely to find something.
[09:53] <BluesKaj> hey gents ..pastebin perhaps ?
[09:53] <TrueFX> so
[09:53] <akrus> TrueFX: so is it /dev/sdc1?
[09:53] <TrueFX> yep
[09:53] <akrus> okay
[09:53] <TrueFX> ive found it with KMFormat
[09:53] <akrus> my intuition is working well
[09:53] <akrus> :)
[09:53] <TrueFX> 15 mb usb driver
[09:53] <akrus> run this
[09:54] <akrus> sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[09:54] <TrueFX> im root
[09:54] <akrus> and format it using KMFormat
[09:54] <akrus> it will work
[09:54] <akrus> then dismiss sudo
[09:54] <akrus> otherwise it will dismiss it automatically
[09:54] <TrueFX> ok
[09:55] <TrueFX> it's formatted succesfully
[09:55] <akrus> :)
[09:55] <TrueFX> can i place grub on it
[09:55] <akrus> re-connect it now
[09:55] <TrueFX> ive formatted ext3
[09:55] <akrus> hm... i think you can... but i don't remember how :)
[09:55] <TrueFX> how can i mount all filesystem in /etc/fstab ?
[09:56] <Pupeno> TrueFX: mount -a I believe.
[09:56] <TrueFX> ok thx Pupeno
[09:56] <TrueFX> i can boot with usb drive right?
[09:56] <TrueFX> coz i dont have a diskette driver so il try to install grub in usb driver
[09:56] <Pupeno> TrueFX: that depends on the BIOS of your computer (motherboard).
[09:57] <TrueFX> as far as i know i can boot from usb
[09:57] <TrueFX> ok let me go on if i ve come across with more erros be prepared :)
[09:57] <TrueFX> thx again
[09:58] <akrus> TrueFX: good luck :P
[09:58] <draik> anyone every gotten this error message?
[09:58] <draik> ***sorry***
[09:58] <akrus> ever*
[09:58] <draik> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[09:58] <draik> E: Error occurred while processing language-pack-gnome-nds (NewVersion1)
[09:58] <draik> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
[09:58] <draik> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[09:58] <akrus> !pastebin|draik
[09:58] <ubotu> draik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <akrus> :)
[09:59] <draik> :(
[09:59] <akrus> just when it's 4+ lines it's not recommended :)
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: I'd update my package lists.
[09:59] <akrus> so okay -> away now -> watching video :)
[10:00] <eguzkia> hello someone here know why i can't run beryl with my kubuntu edgy?
[10:00] <eguzkia> i have nvidia GeForce 420 Go with nvidia-legacy-glx
[10:01] <TrueFX> ok
[10:01] <TrueFX> another question immediately
[10:01] <crdlb> eguzkia, because you need to use nvidia-glx
[10:01] <TrueFX> how can i find where is my partition containing boot directory?
[10:01] <draik> nosrednaekim: I have. Nothing
[10:02] <TrueFX> find /boot/grub/stage1 does not give a result
[10:02] <draik> I keep getting the same error message with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[10:02] <TrueFX> error 15: File not found?
[10:02] <TrueFX> so how can i boot then in to linux?
[10:02] <eguzkia> crdb: i don't think nvidia-glx run on my old 420Go
[10:02] <crdlb> eguzkia, it can
[10:02] <eguzkia> crdb: there is a list to see that
[10:02] <shane2peru> TrueFX: are you trying to restor grub?
[10:03] <dale> Does kubuntu have any apps like Gimp?
[10:03] <TrueFX> yep
[10:03] <draik> dale: Kubuntu has GIMP
[10:03] <TrueFX> that's what i try to do
[10:03] <crdlb> eguzkia, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:03] <eguzkia> crdb: so do you think i ca install nvidia-glx
[10:03] <TrueFX> im reading grub guide step by step
[10:03] <TrueFX> i ve formatted a usb drive
[10:03] <crdlb> eguzkia, yes
[10:03] <shane2peru> TrueFX: and it doesn't fine it?
[10:03] <TrueFX> im already in kubuntu
[10:03] <dale> Will i have to install loads of gnome libs for gimp?
[10:03] <TrueFX> but i cant have a dual boot system
[10:03] <draik> Anyone have a clue about that error message? I'm blank.
[10:03] <shane2peru> TrueFX: are you running off live CD?
[10:03] <eguzkia> crdb: but the problem is that in edy there are problem with dependency with beryl
[10:03] <draik> dale: no
[10:04] <TrueFX> i have to disconnect the hard drives to swicth windows and kubuntu
[10:04] <TrueFX> no
[10:04] <rami> kabantoo:)
[10:04] <draik> dale: sudo apt-get install gimp
[10:04] <shane2peru> TrueFX: yes, I ran a daul boot for about 2 years
[10:04] <TrueFX> i ve two drives
[10:04] <TrueFX> one containing kbuuntu
[10:04] <TrueFX> other windows
[10:04] <TrueFX> but i can boot only one of them
[10:04] <TrueFX> first ive isntalled kubuntu
[10:04] <shane2peru> TrueFX: that is going to complicate things, and only one connected at a time?
[10:04] <TrueFX> then i have disconnected it so that windows wouldnt write over it
[10:04] <TrueFX> nope
[10:05] <TrueFX> right now both of them are connected
[10:05] <dale> How comes when I install kde apps in gnome I have to install loads of kde lib, but i dont have to install any libs for gnome apps?
[10:05] <TrueFX> when i connect both of them i boot into kubuntu
[10:05] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, so you installed Kubuntu with only one connected?
[10:06] <shane2peru> TrueFX: if I'm not mistaken you are going to need to boot off of that drive, it should have installed grub, and you are saying it didn't?
[10:06] <eriefisher> TrueFX:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=124989
[10:07] <eguzkia> crdlb: ok but the problem is that i cannot download beryl-kubuntu from the edgy repository
[10:07] <draik> I'm stuck. I can't install anything, I can't update and I can't upgrade.
[10:07] <crdlb> eguzkia, did you add the beryl-project repository?
[10:07] <nosrednaeki1> draik: what happens when you try to update?
[10:07] <shane2peru> TrueFX: this is the guide you followed?
[10:07] <eguzkia> crdlb: can you give me the URL
[10:08] <draik> nosrednaeki1: same error as stated before.
[10:08] <crdlb> eguzkia, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[10:08] <eguzkia> ok
[10:08] <dale> Sorry, What was the command to edit the kde menu?