[10:18] <Flannel> krisbae: oh, packages with the same names?  That shouldn't matter.  It'll resolve them just like any other.  highest version by default, etc.
[10:19] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: I can not boot into Ubuntu because I get "selected disk does not exist" so I have to boot from live cd
[10:19] <krisbae> Flannel but may have diffrent name conversion
[10:19] <asspen187> must be a baaaaad bugg
[10:19] <asspen187> hey does anyone here like using xfce?
[10:19] <Flannel> krisbae: then they'll be different package names
[10:19] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, after booting into live cd...do sudo grub
[10:19] <Flannel> krisbae: Youre talking about mixing debian packages, yeah.  Don't do that.
[10:19] <asspen187> cause i cant figure out whats wrong with mybuttons
[10:19] <cdoublejj> flannel , fsck dies with exit status 8
[10:19] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: I tried all of that too
[10:20] <krisbae> Flannel I dont wanna do it hehe
[10:20] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, hmm ... what happens?
[10:20] <krisbae> Flannel but there are bosses anywhere haha;;
[10:20] <Flannel> cdoublejj: You don't need to fsck, just get to the terminal
[10:20] <Theaxiom> same error on boot
[10:20] <cdoublejj> flannel ok it was saying that at boot when i used recovery consol
[10:20] <cdoublejj> ok
[10:20] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, does the grub install go fine?
[10:21] <cdoublejj> i'm at consoleflannel
[10:21] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Yes it says it succeeded
[10:21] <Bladexxx973_> join sane
[10:21] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, ok then does grub show up?
[10:21] <Flannel> cdoublejj: I see.  Why is it fscking?  Alright... Oh, you have a liveCD.  That'll actually be better, since you can pastebin stuff.  Sorry for suggesting recovery console first.  We'll need to see fdisk -l, and your fstab and stuff.
[10:21] <cdoublejj> i'm booting of the hdd
[10:22] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Grub always shows up, but when I select an OS, I get that error, no matter what
[10:22] <cdoublejj> guess i will need a live disk won't
[10:22] <cdoublejj> i
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, even windows?
[10:22] <cdoublejj> i'm going to go back through and look around atthe diffrent steps
[10:22] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Yes
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, try super grub...
[10:22] <Flannel> cdoublejj: er, you used a liveCD to do the other stuff, right?
[10:23] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Where is that?
[10:23] <cdoublejj> flannel yeah i took out the live live cd
[10:24] <Theaxiom> !fstab
[10:24] <Flannel> cdoublejj: this is why we still have that backup, because even if something went horribly wrong all we have to do is recopy the stuff, etc.
[10:24] <znik> the wifi/wlan led of my laptop does not work!(it is blinking) my kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic
[10:24] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ here
[10:24] <Theaxiom> !partitions
[10:24] <znik> the led is not stable!
[10:24] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Thanks
[10:25] <Theaxiom> !gparted
[10:25] <cdoublejj> i know flannel i'm gonnaget some break fast at mcdonalds i have school and stuff soon i'll go back and fix every thing some time soon
[10:25] <cdoublejj> thanks for all your help
[10:25] <cdoublejj> much appreciated
[10:25] <Flannel> cdoublejj: alright, if you have questions, come back and ask.
[10:25] <cdoublejj> :)
[10:25] <azrael_valedhel> hm... I've got a surprising error - the server is just installed, ubuntu feisty, and aptitude gives me: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: Unknown error - does it mean that I have to add gpg keys?
[10:26] <Ziroday> azrael_valedhel: why are you running feisty?
[10:26] <arvind_khadri> Flannel,  Hi i have been getting segfault for yelp...how do i remove it?
[10:26] <azrael_valedhel> its not my server, changing os is not a possibility
[10:26] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: How do I burn super grub to a disk if I am in a live cd?
[10:27] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: stop making it angry? :)  I don't know.
[10:27] <arvind_khadri> Theaxiom, burn it from a different machine :)
[10:27] <Flannel> Theaxiom: If youre on a liveCD, just use the liveCD
[10:27] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, :) thanks..
[10:27] <Ziroday> azrael_valedhel: Err, well I am not sure if feisty is even supported, the repos are probably closed. Lemme check
[10:27] <Theaxiom> arvind_khadri: Is there a way I can close out of X, and restart the gui under my chrooted environment?
[10:27] <Ziroday> azrael_valedhel: can you still get security updates even with that error?
[10:27] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, his OSes arent booting up ...
[10:27] <Flannel> Ziroday, azrael_valedhel: Feisty is supported through october
[10:27] <azrael_valedhel> hm, then I will have to enforce debian ;)
[10:28] <Ziroday> Flannel: thanks
[10:28] <azrael_valedhel> what is stable ubuntu atm?
[10:28] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: 8.04 (Hardy Heron) is the most recent stable Ubuntu
[10:28] <Flannel> azrael_valedhel ^
[10:29] <azrael_valedhel> ok
[10:29] <Theaxiom> How do I kill x and go to just a command prompt so I can chroot and startx in my chrooted environment so I can remove the live CD from the drive and be able to burn super grub?
[10:30] <fsloke> I installed Ubuntu Destop edition 8.04 in my window
[10:30] <fsloke> but cannot uninstall it
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:30] <fsloke> I click on uninstall but cannot remove it
[10:30] <fsloke> I remove using Add and Remove...
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: what you trying to uninstall?
[10:30] <fsloke> Ubuntu just like x respond
[10:30] <fsloke> Ubuntu OS
[10:30] <fsloke> in my WIndow
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> id head over to ##windows then
[10:31] <fsloke> Ubuntu can Install in Window...
[10:31] <fsloke> as ubuntu folder
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: yes using wubi
[10:32] <fsloke> install as an application
[10:32] <fsloke> how to remove it?
[10:32] <azrael_valedhel> hm... what am I even talking about - I can upgrade to hardy at any moment by changing sources.list and aptitude upgrade, am I right or is it more complicated than debian?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: this isnt a ubuntu issue, the windows installer is having an issue, making it a windows issue
[10:32] <Flannel> azrael_valedhel: its less complicated.  Don't edit themmanually, use the update-manager
[10:32] <Flannel> !upgrade | azrael_valedhel
[10:33] <fsloke> but It also ubuntu problem
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: how?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: windows cannot uninstal the application, its a windows issue
[10:33] <fsloke> bcs I uninstall by clcik on uninstall.exe ubuntu
[10:33] <fsloke> it didn't works
[10:33] <Keph> Hey again
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: yes and thats a windows application isnt it?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> hey Keph
[10:34] <ibnbasyari> hai every body
[10:34] <Keph> I need some help with gparted - it seems stuck for 12 hours now and I don't know what to do now
[10:34] <Keph> it's shrinking a partition, to be a bit more precise
[10:35] <ibnbasyari> how to install wine
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> fsloke: if youo were having issues inside the ubuntu system which you set up then its a ubuntu issue, but you are removing it which makes it a windows problem, maybe there are registry keys missing or the uninstaller is corrupt but all these are windows issues
[10:35] <arvind_khadri> !wine | ibnbasyari
[10:35] <Keph> ibnbasyari: apt-get install wine ? ;)
[10:35] <cdoublejj> yep
[10:35] <Keph> or just use the add/remove app?
[10:35] <azrael_valedhel> Iit seems its even more complicated - I cant access the pc other way than ssh
[10:36] <znik> how can i upgrade to linux 2.6.26?
[10:36] <fsloke> oic
[10:36] <ibnbasyari> thank you, but i can't install ms office
[10:36] <cdoublejj> woah isn't that really old
[10:36] <Keph> so, can anyone advise me on what to do with the gparted situation?
[10:36] <cdoublejj> 2.6
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> znik: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:36] <fsloke> I got simply remove ubuntu folder
[10:36] <fsloke> it can deleted!!!
[10:36] <fsloke> Yes
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> znik: you may need to reinstall graphics drivers
[10:36] <fsloke> thank guys
[10:36] <notwist> My ubuntu server router machine can't connect to IP-adresses (ubuntu update) but it can ping them. I can connect to anything (I'm behind the box being routed). What's the problem? I suspect iptables might have something to do with it
[10:36] <Keph> I mean, it's mostly done: 98.89gb out of 107, but it's still going
[10:36] <arvind_khadri> ibnbasyari, why do you want MS office
[10:37] <Keph> and cancelling that is probably a bad idea, right?
[10:37] <ShredZ> Using tightvncserver I noticed an ip to have multiple connections to the same vnc desktop, the ip only had one client opened, but multiple were listed in netstat. This causes mouse input to fail on other connections to the vnc as well. Disabling shared connection on the client and connecting causes the mouse to work again. How can this happen ?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Keph: did you check the drive was healthy before starting?
[10:37] <asspen187> OMG UBUNTU BORKED MY POWER ON SWITCH IT DOESNT EVEN WORK NEMORE UBUNTU DEVS U OWE ME $25.00 DOLLARS!!!
[10:37] <azrael_valedhel> hm, theres a solution for that - server upgrades - but... is it really something else than editing sources.list to hardy and running aptitude upgrade?
[10:37] <ibnbasyari> some of my student always ask
[10:37] <notwist> asspen187: plz.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> haaha 25 dollars
[10:38] <Flannel> !caps | asspen187
[10:38] <Serial_k> zim dollars?
[10:38] <Serial_k> lol
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> asspen187: an OS cant harm your hardware
[10:38] <zcat[1]> asspen187: try noapic?
[10:38] <notwist> asspen187: did you miss the part about "Ubuntu comes with absolutely no warranty"? Anyway it's impossible.
[10:38] <Keph> ActionParsnip: as far as I could, yes.   Its a CLI version of it.
[10:38] <Serial_k> i know m8
[10:38] <asspen187> no warranty... oh boy im pist
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Serial_k: you from uk?
[10:39] <Flannel> azrael_valedhel: it does some safety checks, and makes sure you have proper metapackages installed, etc.  It's *perfectly* fine to do it the old fashioned way if you know what you're doing and are comfortable with it
[10:39] <Keph> ActionParsnip: gparted seems to perform some filesystem checks, though, so there's that at least
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> asspen187: id check the connector from the botton to your motherboard
[10:39] <vicha> hai ..... !!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Keph: id have a snooze or a shower and see if its progressed, are you resizing?
[10:39] <ibnbasyari> driver atheros wireless how to active?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> ibnbasyari: restricted drivers
[10:40] <notwist> Can anyone take a look at my iptables and see why my server can't connect to the Internet (but ping) and I can, being routed through the same machine?
[10:40] <Keph> ActionParsnip: yup, shrinking.
[10:40] <asspen187> oooooo actionparsnip ur rite thats iti had that happen b4 and dis guy said the same thing and he fixed it like that
[10:40] <Flannel> vicha: #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[10:40] <Moult> what are the minimum sys specs needed to run xubuntu?
[10:40] <dGodFatheR> problem, i am using vpn with vnc to view a remote desktop
[10:40] <jino> what is suid
[10:40] <zcat[1]> btw in case anyone missed the warning -- resizing partitions can go horribly bad sometimes. MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!
[10:40] <notwist> Moult: very little :)
[10:40] <asspen187> but im not touching it sorry it wasnt ubuntu fault
[10:40] <dGodFatheR> someone else also wants to view that desktop
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> asspen187: you need to chill dude, new attitude is good
[10:40] <Keph> ActionParsnip: still, it shouldn't take 12 hours and do seemingly nothing, right?
[10:40] <ibnbasyari> how to get restrited driver ?
[10:40] <dGodFatheR> when he connects he cuts me off, when i connect i cut him off
[10:41] <Moult> notwist: this is a very little box ;)
[10:41] <azrael_valedhel> ok, I got you there, I'll try ubuntu way first then ;)
[10:41] <Keph> I mean, it's still copying the same sector, apparently
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Keph: not sure ive always planned my partitions
[10:41] <LSD|Ninja> ibnbasyari: System _> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[10:41] <dGodFatheR> who do we both view that desktop ?
[10:41] <notwist> ibnbasyari: if you are using ubuntu with gnome there's an option for it in the menu
[10:41] <marit> hi
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Keph: did you backup before you started?
[10:41] <notwist> Moult: I'm pretty sure it can handle it. xfce is extremly light weight
[10:41] <Moult> notwist: 128mb ram, 8gig hd space
[10:41] <Keph> ActionParsnip: so do I, but that's not exactly my box I'm tinkering with
[10:41] <ibnbasyari> thank you
[10:41] <notwist> Moult: I'm pretty sure that will work
[10:42] <Keph> and they CLAIM they've backed everything up, but then again, I'll probably take the blame if they didn't :P
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Keph: then if its not youor own pc you should have definately backed up
[10:42] <znik> ActionParsnip cant fiddle with my graphics driver. last time i did that i had a tough time! i am using gutsy. i kno other ppl who r facing the same problem
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Keph: as them, you may need to quit which could damage things
[10:43] <ibnbasyari> I use ubuntume for server, in ltsp why ubuntume didnt active
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> znik: its the wonder of kernel upgrades
[10:43] <vicha> haloo
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> !hi | vicha
[10:44] <Keph> ActionParsnip: is there any way I can check whether gparted's actually doing anything at the moment?
[10:44] <znik> ActionParsnip sorry but couldnt get what u r saying?
[10:44] <notwist> ActionParsnip: wow that's a personal message :p
[10:44] <ibnbasyari> any body know ltsp
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Keph: run top
[10:44] <dGodFatheR> no one wants to answer my question?
[10:44] <Keph> top?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> notwist: huh?
[10:44] <notwist> ActionParsnip: the !hi command instead of just saying hi :p
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Keph: run it in terminal
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> notwist: hehe ;)
[10:45] <kalki> ola ?
[10:45] <unohu> dGodFatheR: which question?
[10:45] <Keph> it's already running, though
[10:45] <kalki> je suis nouveau sur ubuntu je cherche un maitre pour le petit padawan que je suis
[10:45] <unohu> !fr
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> dGodFatheR: i believe vnc only likes one connection. Ive not used it
[10:46] <znik> ActionParsnip if i do the upgrade thing then i would have to upgrade the graphics driver too! which i dont want too
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | dGodFatheR
[10:46] <notwist> btw! I have a really annoying problem. My compaq server wont boot without a keyboard. Ive been looking in the bios but i cant find any way to turn the control off. anyone know of a solution?
[10:47] <Keph> ok, seems everything beside moving the progress window and pressing the cancel button is unavailable for some reason
[10:47] <azrael_valedhel> hm... couldn't insstall update-manager-core - changed sources.list, and while updating it shows "Unknown error when running gpgv" (well its no english, but its what it would be)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> znik: try it, you can always choose the kernel you have now if its bad, it doesnt remove the old kernel unless you tell your system to
[10:47] <knu_> was ist ein transienter ordner?
[10:47] <Keph> huh, I hope this means the gui's just stuck and all the work is done
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !de | knu_
[10:47] <Flannel> !de | knu_
[10:47] <notwist> azrael_valedhel: gpg has something to do with authorization of the servers i think.. maybe you need to install some sort of gpg package
[10:47] <kalki> thank for information ubuntu fr ;)
[10:47] <Keph> wishful thinking, though
[10:48] <azrael_valedhel> im upgrading gpgv, we'll see
[10:48] <dGodFatheR> ActionParsnip: ubottu: thanks guys
[10:48] <azrael_valedhel> well, it updated okay, but the error just wont go away :)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> notwist: i thought apt-get managed keys
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> azrael_valedhel: what errors?
[10:49] <notwist> ActionParsnip: yeah it probably does but it makes sense that you need some kind of gpg packet to decode the keys or... something I'm not sure. I'm just shooting blind :P
[10:49] <Keph> ok, screw this, I'll get back to that in the evening
[10:49] <Keph> just in case, are there any tools for recovering data from (hopefully not) demolished ntfs partitions?
[10:50] <notwist> ActionParsnip: "unknown error when running gpgv"
[10:51] <peter__> ls
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> notwist: you got the correct date / time / timezone setup?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> notwist: tonnes of sites are spouting about dates and times
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> some dude chnaged his year from 2003 and it worked fine
[10:53] <notwist> ActionParsnip: it wasnt my problem, is was azrael_valedhel :)
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> azrael_valedhel: please read all that stuff
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> notwist: cheers bro
[10:54] <Keph> ok, I'll just leave it be for a while
[10:54] <Keph> wish me luck ;)
[10:54] <VirtualBoxNewUse> :)
[10:54] <Keph> ...cause it seems I'll need it
[10:54]  * ActionParsnip wished Keph luck
[10:54] <Keph> thanks. And with that said, I'm off
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip,  how do i start apport's gui version
[10:55] <reehan> hi
[10:56] <reehan> anyone here?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> !hi | reehan
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> reehan: yes, if you read the status you will see there are 1339 people here
[10:56] <reehan> hello arvind
[10:56] <smmagic> 1340 :D
[10:56] <reehan> yup:)
[10:57] <reehan> arvind can you give your introduction please?
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> reehan, your support question ??
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> arvind_khadri: no idea about apport man, sorry
[10:58] <reehan> actually i need help for virtualization...does anyone over here has any idea?
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> ActionParsnip, its ok...i guess they are reported by update-notifier
[10:58] <unohu> reehan: simple virtualbox virtualization or any comlex stuff???
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> reehan, vmware
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> !vmware | reehan
[10:59] <reehan> no actually i need some help for development part
[10:59] <reehan> can i get the source code of vmware???
[10:59] <reehan> i think its not open source
[10:59] <unohu> reehan: try virtualbox
[11:00] <unohu> its open
[11:00] <joaopinto> vmware is freeware
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> reehan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-server
[11:00] <reehan> yup..but i couldnt find any proper documetation for it @unohu
[11:00] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, that is the source for the debian package, not for the vmware product
[11:01] <reehan> @unohu do u have any references for the explanation of virtualbox architecture and its working
[11:01] <joaopinto> reehan, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Technical_documentation
[11:01] <unohu> reehan: better try virtualbox irc :-) ...
[11:02] <fr33n0d> hey guys, im trying to tar up some directory but inside there is this file js.png , it's got a perm of    ?rw-r--r--  , and it breaks up my tarring.  what the hell is,  ?rw-r--r--
[11:02] <reehan> how do i get there? @unohu
[11:02] <joaopinto> reehan, but you may bee interested on a simpler implementation, like qemu
[11:03] <reehan> @joaopinto i am doing a be project....for that i m in need of a hypervisor
[11:03] <unohu> reehan: #virtualbox
[11:03] <joaopinto> reehan, check Xen
[11:03] <rconan> is it possible to do port translation using ufw? I want to translate incoming connections on port 411 to port 4111 so that my server doesn't need to run as root
[11:03] <reehan> ya, i read xen but it does not fulfill my requirements
[11:04] <unohu> reehan: what exactly is ur project? just out of curiosity
[11:05] <reehan> actually i m implemeting security for applications in the event of OS compromise
[11:05] <reehan> for that i need a hypervisor which has binary translation
[11:05] <VirtualBoxNewUse> Hi reehan, the virtualbox irc channel is available on freenode
[11:06] <VirtualBoxNewUse> join vbox
[11:06] <vadi> hi
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> !hi | vadi
[11:06] <vadi> i am new to ubuntu
[11:07] <vadi> my desktop effect could not be enabled
[11:07] <rconan> vadi, what graphics hardware are you using?
[11:07] <arvind_khadri> vadi, are you having a graphics card...
[11:07] <vadi> no
[11:08] <vadi> my graphic is inbuilt
[11:08] <arvind_khadri> vadi, have you got it working?
[11:08] <rconan> vadi, can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[11:08] <vadi> yeah sure
[11:08] <vadi> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
[11:09] <vadi> 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
[11:09] <vadi> 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
[11:09] <vadi> 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
[11:09] <vadi> 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 Host Bridge
[11:09] <vadi> 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M900 I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
[11:09] <FloodBot3> vadi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> vadi: dont paste in the room, paste in pastebin and give us the link
[11:10] <vadi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41178/
[11:11] <dGodFatheR> what type of software can you use to remotely help a user?
[11:11] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: VNC
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> dGodFatheR: ssh
[11:11] <dGodFatheR> VirtualBoxNewUse: vnc only lets you see a session from the client
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> vadi: ok you have a VIA Technologies, Inc. Chrome9 HC IGP
[11:12] <VirtualBoxNewUse> just see?
[11:12] <dGodFatheR> you can't see it on the pc itself, at list i didn't succeed doing that
[11:12] <VirtualBoxNewUse> you can...
[11:12] <dGodFatheR> i wanna see and control the desktop along with the other user
[11:12] <dGodFatheR> who do i do that?
[11:12] <vadi> is it possible to have desktop effect
[11:12] <VirtualBoxNewUse> that is by default.
[11:13] <rconan> vadi, according to this: http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=498 yes
[11:13] <VirtualBoxNewUse> do you have a VNC server setup on your end?
[11:13] <dGodFatheR> ActionParsnip: ssh won't be good for me i wont something that includes controlling the remote machine gui
[11:13] <rconan> vadi, although having to remove your driver from the blacklist suggests it might be a bit unstable
[11:13] <dGodFatheR> on the remote end
[11:13] <dGodFatheR> i am connecting to it with a client
[11:13] <VirtualBoxNewUse> well, if you have it on your end, I could connect and show it to you right away..
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dGodFatheR: oic
[11:14] <dGodFatheR> well i don't have on my end
[11:14] <dGodFatheR> but can you explain? i will try that
[11:14] <VirtualBoxNewUse> do you have two PCs?
[11:14] <dGodFatheR> no, one is remote at work
[11:14] <dGodFatheR> well, actually i do have two pc's but one is windows
[11:14] <vadi> i open that page and found a driver for my vga
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> dGodFatheR: you'll need to setup port forwarding if the systems is behind a router
[11:15] <unohu> dGodFatheR: ur work allows u to connect via vnc?
[11:15] <dGodFatheR> i am connecting throw vpn
[11:15] <vadi> do i need to install it and if yes means i don't know to install drivers in Ubuntu
[11:15] <dGodFatheR> and when inside i use vnc
[11:15] <asspen187> ubuntu is cool
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> vadi, first try the restricted drivers ...if they dont work then go for it
[11:16] <dGodFatheR> VirtualBoxNewUse:
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> asspen187: i thought the devs owed you 25 USD
[11:16] <michelem> Hello folks
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> hi michelem
[11:16] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: yes
[11:16] <vadi> can you tell me step by step please how to do it
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> !hi | michelem
[11:16] <dGodFatheR> well, can you help me?
[11:16] <michelem> how do I install a 32bit version library on a 64bit ubuntu?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> vadi: get websearching dude
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> michelem: you'll need a few libs
[11:17] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: sure...
[11:17] <dGodFatheR> can you tell me what am i supposed to do in order to be able to connect to a remote pc(linux) and view it's desktop in parallel to the local user
[11:17] <michelem> I have libncurses-dev in /lib64 and I need the same under /lib32
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> michelem: then sudo dpkg -i --force-arch I believe will make it ignore the different architecture
[11:18] <dGodFatheR> well
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> michelem: is there no 64bit deb?
[11:18] <dGodFatheR> i am waiting :)
[11:18] <michelem> I though there was some specific repository
[11:19] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: Are you not receiving private messages?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> michelem: what for??
[11:19] <asspen187> i feel sick
[11:19] <michelem> is there any reference in package names to understand whether a package is 32 or 64 bits?
[11:19] <asspen187> yeah i really dont feel good right now
[11:19] <Orbixx> i386 and x86_x64
[11:19] <asspen187> im sick
[11:19] <vadi> arvind, i see restricted drivers nothing is there
[11:20] <Orbixx> That was aimed at you michelem.
[11:20] <vadi> its blank
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> michelem: if youo use repos the correct architecture will be used
[11:20] <asspen187> man i feellike crap
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> vadi, then download drivers from the site
[11:20] <asspen187> i better go
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> asspen187: thats offtopic and  no one cares
[11:20] <michelem> Orbixx: neither of those are specified on a normal basis in package names I see
[11:20] <asspen187> oh man you dont care dang
[11:20] <michelem> I see that "show" shows the binary format under "Architecture"
[11:20] <Orbixx> michaelem: They won't be if there's only one architecture release.
[11:20] <vadi> ok i have drivers and source code which one i need to download plz
[11:21] <Orbixx> There*
[11:21] <michelem> oh yes lib32ncurses5
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> vadi, drivers
[11:21] <IntangibleLiquid> how long will it take to train a teacher to teach Ubuntu in your estimate?
[11:21] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: are you still around?
[11:21] <Orbixx> lib32 gives it away
[11:21] <Orbixx> Three, two.
[11:21] <VirtualBoxNewUse> dGodFatheR: please visit http://www.tightvnc.com/
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: depends how deep you teach
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> IntangibleLiquid, depends on the student :)
[11:22] <Moult> does xubuntu support drivers for old computers getting online via that usb conection thing?
[11:22] <azrael_valedhel> ActionParsnip: it seems you may be right - its 2002 here x_x
[11:22] <michelem> so I guess the convention is no reference for "default arch" and to add 32 somewhere otherwise
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> haha bingo
[11:22] <vadi> ok i download it how i can install it plz
[11:22] <IntangibleLiquid> most of the curriculum I'm building is web-based (google docs, wikipedia, google search, goanimate, etc)
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> if its 1999 id start singing the Prince song
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> vadi, ok now just unzip the source you got...
[11:22] <Orbixx> michelem: There is variation. But if it's not specified and you're getting from repos - assume it's the correct architecture.
[11:23] <Orbixx> Otherwise, look for tell-tale signs.
[11:23] <Orbixx> Like 32 and 64, or i386 and x86_x64.
[11:23] <IntangibleLiquid> I want children to obtain an average level of using Edubuntu
[11:23] <vadi> yes i did then
[11:23] <IntangibleLiquid> how to navigate
[11:23] <IntangibleLiquid> create files and folder
[11:23] <IntangibleLiquid> open education apps
[11:23] <Orbixx> Teach them C.
[11:23] <IntangibleLiquid> basic things people normally do with an OS
[11:23] <Orbixx> Start it at an early age :D
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: about a week as they are kids
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> vadi, read the install notes you will find in the unzipped directory
[11:24] <shok> hey
[11:24] <unohu> IntangibleLiquid: kids pick up those things real fast....
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: teachers should be a matter of days
[11:24] <Orbixx> IntangibleLiquid: There is no way of giving you a good estimate.
[11:24] <vadi> oh yeah i saw it i will try and come back if i have problem and thanx for u r kind help
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> vadi, sure
[11:24] <Orbixx> Some of them will flunk it and have no idea or interest.
[11:25] <IntangibleLiquid> ok, seems like I have some good answers, thanks guy
[11:25] <Orbixx> Some of them will pick it up very quickly and enjoy it.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: its a case of string lengths ;)
[11:25] <Orbixx> Indeed it is.
[11:25] <Finnish> Can I unzip a windows 7-zip file in ubuntu=
[11:25] <Orbixx> Finnish: With great difficulty.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !7zip | Finnish
[11:25] <IntangibleLiquid> ok
[11:26] <IntangibleLiquid> if I say I'd like to spend 6 months for Ubuntu before moving to web-app
[11:26] <IntangibleLiquid> do you think it's too long and boring for the kids
[11:26] <IntangibleLiquid> ?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> the length of the affpre mention piece of string is twice as long as half its length
[11:26] <Orbixx> Depends what you're teaching.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: dues to diversity, some will love it some will hate it
[11:27] <IntangibleLiquid> ActionParsnip, all the kids I've played with love computers
[11:27] <doctorow> I've just upgraded a Thinkpad X61 from Gutsy to Hardy, and now when I dock it to my external monitor and select screen resolution, I no longer see 1400x1050, which is the native res of both the laptop and the external display. How can I choose a custom res?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: then yuo got a score
[11:27] <Orbixx> IntangibleLiquid: Keep the ball rolling.
[11:27] <wendy_> join #ubuntume
[11:27] <Orbixx> If you see signs of boredom, change the topic.
[11:27] <IntangibleLiquid> and since the kids I'm planning to teach
[11:27] <IntangibleLiquid> are disadvantaged children
[11:28] <Orbixx> Finish the lesson and change the topic for the next lesson.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: you may need to reconfigure graphics
[11:28] <IntangibleLiquid> they have very little experience with Windows
[11:28] <IntangibleLiquid> so it's easier for them to migrate to Linux
[11:28] <shok> hi guys !
[11:28] <doctorow> ActionParnsip: how do I reconfigure graphics?
[11:29] <IntangibleLiquid> will let you guys know about the official program when everything is setup properly
[11:29] <dam0> doctorow use ENVYNG
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: you may need to reinstall the graphics driver, do like you did in the original install and it sohould pop back
[11:29] <MilkFloat> Hi guys, has anyone got any experience kickseeding ubuntu installs?  The %pre is running to early for me to detect the HDDs installed in the machine with list-devices
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> dam0: doesnt work with some graphics cards
[11:30] <doctorow> What's ENVYNG?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: what graphics card does the lappy have?
[11:30] <IntangibleLiquid> about server setup, I pondering over either LTSP or traditiona fat-clients
[11:30] <IntangibleLiquid> because if the cost of purhasing individual pcs is equal to the cost of a server
[11:30] <IntangibleLiquid> theres no point to work with the thin-client set up, right?
[11:30] <narimanm> hello everyone!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: id do a throurough study
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: rather than asking randoms
[11:31] <shok> i've a problem with audio, si when i plug my listener , there is no sound :)
[11:31] <narimanm> need help. whats the average load cycle per minute??
[11:31] <IntangibleLiquid> ActionParsnip, that's true :)
[11:31] <koala_man> is anyone able to access no.archive.ubuntu.com via ipv6?
[11:31] <MilkFloat> IntanigbleLiquid: Don't forget the cost of upgrading - is many PCs cheaper than a single server then?  And also its more about having centralised control over apps etc which you don't get with multiple fat clients
[11:32] <spanther> shok: which soundchip? have you checked compatibility list and unmuted software mixers?
[11:32] <unohu> narimanm: for?
[11:32] <doctorow> ActionParsnip it's an Intel 965
[11:32] <d4t2ill4> greets!
[11:32] <narimanm> unohu: for my harddrive.
[11:32] <shok> with the chipset realteak :)
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: ok then get websearching for that for ubuntu support you'll get a walkthrough
[11:32] <IntangibleLiquid> MilkFloat, thanks!
[11:33] <d4t2ill4> hi, can someone help me to understand why I have one wifi card, but when i do ifconfig -a, I have wifi0 and ath0
[11:33] <visik7> does this site make your firefox crash ? http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Text-Editing-Processing/IDEs/Python-rope-12047.shtml
[11:33] <doctorow> ActionParsnip Can yo be a little more specific, please?
[11:33] <Orbixx> visik7: No.
[11:33] <d4t2ill4> is there any relation between wifi0 and ath0?
[11:33] <kim2> !wine
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: you need to search for a guide to setup your graphics card in ubuntu
[11:34] <azrael_valedhel> back again ;) hm, cant set that date - date -s<PHONE_NUMBER>08 "should" work, or am I missing something?
[11:34] <visik7> Orbixx: wait few seconds
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: so hit up your favourite search engine and type something like ubuntu intel 984 or whatever it is, use your loaf
[11:34] <Orbixx> visik7: It's been up for a while.
[11:34] <visik7> Orbixx: :(
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> azrael_valedhel: i think you need sudo
[11:34] <Orbixx> visik7: Could have been an advertisement.
[11:34] <doctorow> ActionParsnip, a search like this: "intel 965 ubuntu configuration" turns up a lot of extremely technical articles that I don't have the expetise to parse
[11:34] <visik7> Orbixx: which firefox and which flash version ?
[11:34] <azrael_valedhel> its on root
[11:34] <doctorow> ActionParsnip, re "use your loaf," that's not called for
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: well then you wont get the resolution you like\
[11:35] <Teisei> !windows
[11:35] <Orbixx> visik7: 3.0.1, Firefox.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: i help in here almost daily and all i do is jump on ask.com and google and find answer to millions of questions ive never had myself\
[11:35] <Orbixx> Latest flash, not sure on version.
[11:35] <Orbixx> I'm on Windows, though.
[11:36] <visik7> Orbixx: I mean on linux not on windows
[11:36] <Leechzilla> I recorded the infrared codes with irrecord and saved it as .lircrc but when I run irexec to test it, I get a bunch of errors..  This is the second time I've dropped in here for help and you've been rude, unhelpful and imperious. Getting X11 to work with laptop resolutions is notoriously difficult. The reason I came to this channel to ask for help is that I'd already done a web-search and come up with material that was well beyond my expertise.
[11:36] <dmizer> when did ubuntu start making automated and unconfigured backups to any drive mounted in /media/backup?
[11:37] <Orbixx> doctorow: What resolution you trying to get?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: ok gimme 2 ticks, ill get you a walkthrough
[11:37] <doctorow> Orbixx, I'm looking to get 1400x1050 60hz
[11:37] <Orbixx> That's quite an odd resolution, certainly.
[11:37] <Orbixx> Would you mind pastebinning your x11 config file?
[11:38] <doctorow> Orbixx, it's the native resolution of the laptop and my external display
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288392
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: read the bottom post
[11:38] <Orbixx> doctorow: Yes, I'm sure. Rather, more of an odd screen, dimensions-wise.
[11:38] <kim2> !kde
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: if its widescreen you'll need the extra lines
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: but the video-intel package is what youo want
[11:39] <doctorow> Orbixx, here's the X11 file: http://pastebin.com/d66257e68
[11:40] <Orbixx> doctorow: I'd recommend installing the package ActionParsnip mentioned.
[11:40] <Mister_Bin> hi
[11:40] <Orbixx> sudo apt-get install video-intel
[11:40] <Mister_Bin> evrion
[11:40] <Orbixx> Will do the trick.
[11:40] <Mister_Bin> #Lobby
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:41] <Vialas> hi guys
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> not video-intel
[11:41] <Vialas> trying to install something using wine
[11:41] <Orbixx> Yes.
[11:41] <koala_man> anyone? is no.archive.ubuntu.com reachable with ipv6?
[11:41] <Vialas> but im getting an error
[11:41] <Orbixx> Vialas: #winehq
[11:41] <Orbixx> gogogogo! :D
[11:41] <Mister_Bin> #Lobby
[11:42] <Orbixx> Mister_Bin: /join #Lobby
[11:42] <Mister_Bin> i Know
[11:42] <Vialas> thanks Orbixx
[11:42] <Orbixx> Apparently not.
[11:42] <Mister_Bin> I open Lobby
[11:42] <Orbixx> Vialas: You're welcome.
[11:42] <Mister_Bin> I whant an @
[11:42] <doctorow> Thank you, Orbixx and ActionParsnip: apt-get reports that I have the latest xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> Mister_Bin: take it to #freenode
[11:43] <Mister_Bin> #Lobby
[11:43] <Mister_Bin> #Lobby
[11:43] <Mister_Bin> #Lobby
[11:43] <FloodBot3> Mister_Bin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: what laptop do you have?
[11:43] <Orbixx> doctorow: Might be an idea to add the Modeline for "LCD/DFP Interna" for the resolution 1400x1050.
[11:44] <jpds> Mister_Bin: Stop that.
[11:44] <doctorow> ActionParsnip: It's a Lenovo THinkpad x61 tablet
[11:44] <Orbixx> ActionParsnip: He has a Lenovo Thinkpad X61.
[11:44] <dmizer> when did ubuntu start making automated and unconfigured backups to any drive mounted in /media/backup?
[11:44] <Orbixx> You can see from the x11 config file.
[11:44] <jpds> Mister_Bin: /msg ChanServ help op
[11:45] <Mister_Bin> ok
[11:45] <error404notfound> if I add some entries to /etc/exports, do I need to restart nfs server? if yes, then how?
[11:45] <jrib> dmizer: I wasn't aware of that.  How are you determining that it is doing that?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_(Feisty_Fawn)_on_an_X61_Tablet#Graphics_Card
[11:46] <dmizer> jrib ... when i tried to access my backup data in /media/backup, there was nothing there except for a backup of my server.
[11:46] <dmizer> jrib: the backup included changed i'd made only minutes before
[11:47] <dmizer> jrib: i have done nothing to configure rsync.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: follow that in the graphics section, you should be ok
[11:48] <doctorow> Thank you, ActionParsnip and Orbixx -- I'll give that a shot
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> doctorow: another great way to get good hits for laptop support is searching for ubuntu on (laptop make and model)
[11:49] <Mister_Bin> hi
[11:49] <Mister_Bin> #The-Best
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hi Mister_Bin
[11:50] <jrib> dmizer: I would test more.  Mount a blank partition there and if it happens again
[11:51] <MilkFloat> is there any known IRC places for kickstarting ubuntu installs anyway
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> MilkFloat: how do you mean>
[11:52] <AfterRain> o/
[11:52] <MilkFloat> I'm automating deployment of Hardy servers using kickstart, and when I enter anything to be run in %pre it's running before the system has loaded all modules which means its not picking up my disks
[11:52] <dmizer> jrib: i will try it once i've gotten over the fact that i've just lost 4 years of backup data.
[11:52] <MilkFloat> which makes it difficult for me to automate the partitioning
[11:53] <jrib> dmizer: I really doubt that ubuntu would just overwrite data.  But if it did, you need to make sure you file a bug
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> MilkFloat: can you add a sleep to it, or a delay
[11:53] <dmizer> jrib ... is it possible that a soft raid has been configured somehow?
[11:54] <MilkFloat> I tried that, and it just seemed to delay the boot.  maybe a longer sleep is required
[11:54] <MilkFloat> ty ActionParsnip
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MilkFloat: id test it, give it like 30 seconds or so, just to see if its gonna work
[11:55] <jrib> dmizer: not that I know of
[11:55] <MilkFloat> thats exactly what I did - bumping it up to a minute
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> MilkFloat: then you could cut it down if you wanna save a few seconds but considering you are gonna run a good amount of time to install the system im sure 30 seconds is ok
[11:56] <marlun> Any idea what I could do if my mouse is not still when I'm not moving the mouse? It's jumping around on a small space.
[11:56] <marlun> It's a wrireless logitech mouse.
[11:57] <dmizer> jrib: thanks anyway.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> marlun: any other radio devices nearby? tried resyncing? new batteries?
[11:58] <skule> im trying to install vmware-server on ubuntu 7.10. uname -a says kernel is 2.6.22-15 but apt-get install installs vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.22-14, and it does not work! What could be wrong
[11:58] <rebel_kid> anyone know a decent free web host, dont need much, i could grow up get married have kids and die b4 this one registers me :)
[11:58] <rebel_kid> skule: type this /join #ubuntu
[11:59] <bazhang> rebel_kid, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <rebel_kid> skule, im so sorry i thought i was in offtopic
[11:59] <rebel_kid> bazhang: so sorry must be tired, i thought i was in offtopic
[11:59] <joaopinto> skule, eventually the kernel modules are not beeing updated, if that is the case you will need to install vmware-server manually
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> skule: id run sudo ap-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> skule: you have an oldish kernel
[12:00] <skule> well right now I booted kernel 2.6.22-14, so it might work
[12:01] <marlun> ActionParsnip: Yeah I tried resynching and the mouse is new (has new batteries).
[12:01] <skule> ActionParsnip, I already did the apt-get update/upgrade, seems to be up to date
[12:01]  * Makar returns at: 06:01am From: Sleep/School
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> skule: tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> marlun: what model of logitech thing is it?
[12:02] <marlun> ActionParsnip: I just noticed that it keeps jumping when I disconnect the receiver.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> marlun: surely you want that connected all the time?
[12:03] <marlun> S 510 cordless keyboard and mouse.
[12:03] <marlun> ActionParsnip: I want it connected yes but if there was something wrong with the wireless connection it should have stopped when I disconnected the receiver, right?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> marlun: makes sense
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> marlun: logitech are a weird bunch
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> marlun: what logitech mouse is it?
[12:07] <mistic> ciao a tutti
[12:07] <bazhang> !it | mistic
[12:07] <marlun> ActionParsnip: Logitech LX5
[12:07] <spider48014> hi all
[12:08]  * Makar[gone] leaving at: 06:07am for Reason: School
[12:08] <IntangibleLiquid> I accidentally deleted Zimbra desktop icon, how do I recover it?
[12:08] <bazhang> !away > Makar[gone]
[12:08] <Makar[gone]> >.>
[12:08] <Makar[gone]> oh
[12:08] <Makar[gone]> sorry >.>
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> marlun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93900
[12:08] <Mikilas> Hi, i want to install something, running a SH script. I get the following output in the terminal : ERROR: Install ncurses before continuing. When i go to synaptics, i got the following packs installed : ncurses-bin ncursus-base ncursus-hexedit & ncursus-term.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: is it just a shortcut to an app?
[12:09] <IntangibleLiquid> ActionParsnip, yes, its the desktop short-cut
[12:09] <marlun> ActionParsnip: will check, thanks!
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: cd ~/; ln -s /usr/bin/zimbra
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: if it doesnt work, use which zimbra, then replace the path with whatever spits out
[12:10] <IntangibleLiquid> it says File Exists
[12:10] <IntangibleLiquid> but I cant see any icon on the desktop
[12:11] <favro> Mikilas: libncurses5 might be what you need
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> IntangibleLiquid: does a reboot help?
[12:11] <Mikilas> okey i'll try it
[12:12] <IntangibleLiquid> ok, I'll try that :)
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> can someone give this to intangibleliquid if/when he comes back: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15818.html
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> peasce
[12:15] <dautis> I need help...I have installed ubuntu on an external hard disk drive and I want to run it on another computer, ...It loads the GRUB menu, but  any choice there said that the disk/partition doesn't exist and such things....What can I do ?
[12:15] <mgolisch> dautis: change it?
[12:16] <unohu> dautis: if u cant use sda sdb etc....
[12:16] <mgolisch> but its highly unlikely for the grub menu to show but the entries not working, unless you had your /boot partition on a different drive
[12:16] <dautis> @mgolisch change what ? I don't know, I tried changing it, but it is the same error
[12:17] <dautis> @unohy I tried sda , sdb, sdc and those stuff, and it said that the disk/partition wasn't found on each of those
[12:17] <mgolisch> its nothing to do with the root parameter in the kernel line
[12:18] <dautis> it only worked with the (hd0,0) stuff , but it gave me other errors there
[12:18] <mgolisch> dautis: which errors?
[12:19] <dautis> @mgolisch , can I contact you for a second in private ?
[12:20] <mgolisch> dautis: yeah sure
[12:24] <habit> !packaging
[12:24] <habit> !backports
[12:25] <bazhang> habit please /msg ubottu
[12:25] <habit> bazhang, copy that, affiarmative.
[12:27] <dam0> if i am to add a user using adduser and setup a firewall would my system be safe still?
[12:31] <amanulla> hiii i have ubuntu 7.10 how to upgrade it to 8.04 with out formatting disk?
[12:31] <Living2007> Does anyone know in a Swann Speed Demon External Modem work in 8.04
[12:32] <ssdt> hi, in the preinstalled mozilla
[12:32] <ssdt> where can i find options?
[12:32] <bastid_raZor> !upgrade | amanulla
[12:33] <Sn3ipen> ssdt edit->options
[12:33] <Sn3ipen> ssdt: Edit->Options
[12:33] <ssdt> oh
[12:33] <ssdt> i looked in the tools
[12:33] <ssdt> thanks
[12:34] <Sn3ipen> Most programs in Gnome have their Options under Edit
[12:34] <xbxb> I installed KDE and Compiz, now, whenever I try to log out, the screen freezes and I only see a black screen... and nothing works.. what to do?
[12:36] <nnull> hi guys, im running compiz and this happened before i remember but the system just decided for itself "ok you only have 1 desk now" koz when i hover over my 4 desks in the switcher they all say desk 1, anyone help me fix?
[12:36] <xbxb> well, and now it restarted :/
[12:37] <neeto> xbxb: what kind of graphics card are you running?
[12:37] <xbxb> neeto: Saphhire HD 4850.. 3d acceleration works just fine
[12:38] <neeto> xbxb: you sure? HD's have a reputation
[12:38] <ontherocks> ermm.... why does kubuntu-kde4-desktop install a mysql and postfix server?
[12:38] <xbxb> neeto: Yes, I installed the catalyst driver and compiz works fluently. no errors encountered.
[12:38] <swebers> nnull, dumb question, when you right click on the grid of desks and select preferences it does say you have 4 desks?
[12:38] <xbxb> neeto: you think that's the prob?
[12:39] <neeto> xbxb: so it was after you installed KDE that it broke?
[12:39] <xbxb> neeto: yes, but I used KDE yesterday without any problems.
[12:39] <nnull> sweBers, yer dude
[12:39] <neeto> xbxb: I see, and this only happens when you log out?
[12:40] <neeto> Seems like you have a problem with GDM not shutting down properly or the session manager crashing
[12:40] <Dr_willis> wowsers - did a clean install of Ubuntu 8.04.1  on a machine.. and the first update/upgrade downloads 117mb of updates. :) are they going to have to do a 8.04.2 soon?
[12:40] <xbxb> neeto: yes... it happened twice now, but now it works again. weird :/
[12:40] <neeto> xbxb: if it happens again, try reinstalling GDM
[12:40] <xbxb> neeto: OK, ty
[12:40] <islamway> hii
[12:40] <islamway> i neeed remove ubuntu
[12:41] <islamway> any one can tell me how
[12:41] <islamway> ?
[12:41] <ontherocks> islamway: just intsall something else?
[12:41] <ontherocks> or use $partitioning_program and delete the ubuntu partitions
[12:41] <dkorzhevin> islamway, remove
[12:41] <sweBers> Dr_willis, version 8.10 should be out soon
[12:42] <islamway> yes
[12:42] <neeto> xbxb: oh you might need to install KDM, and remove GDM if you're using KDE... just a thought, I am not very familiar with the K-side of things
[12:42] <islamway> remove ubuntu
[12:42] <islamway> ?
[12:42] <sweBers> islamaway, did you want another operating system on your computer?
[12:42] <nnull> hi guys, im running compiz and this happened before i remember but the system just decided for itself "ok you only have 1 desk now" koz when i hover over my 4 desks in the switcher they all say desk 1, anyone help me fix?
[12:42] <dkorzhevin> islamway, boot from live cd, open terminal and run this command
[12:43] <dkorzhevin> sudo rm -rf /"
[12:43] <Sn3ipen> islamway: Put in your Live cd and use the partition manager to delete the Ubuntu Partition and voila its gone
[12:43] <dkorzhevin> sorry
[12:43] <dkorzhevin> sudo rm -rf /
[12:43] <jpds> !danger
[12:43] <FloodBot3> dkorzhevin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> sweBers,   Yea but technically its not a LTS.  i was just wondering whats going to happen when the # of updates one has to get  starts  to be the same size as the cd. :)
[12:43] <islamway> and boot ?
[12:43] <jpds> dkorzhevin: Do NOT type that.
[12:43] <dkorzhevin> and then reboot.
[12:43] <islamway> oki
[12:43] <Dr_willis> islamway,  dont do that.
[12:43] <neeto> islamway: NO DONT DO IT
[12:44] <FUF> dkorzhevin: why would you be so unkind?
[12:44] <esteth> islamway, Boot from the live CD, enter the partition editor. Remove the partition ubuntu is on, and resize the windows partition(assuming you have one)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> Linux lesson #1 - do NOT just type commands people give you in irc channels.
[12:44] <dkorzhevin> Type this ONLY if you wont to remove Ubuntu with all data.
[12:44] <arvind_khadri> Don't run everything you see in a terminal unless /dev/brain > /dev/null
[12:44] <sweBers> islamway, especially ones that begin sudo rm
[12:44] <ontherocks> FUF: unkind? the guy WANTS to remove his system
[12:44] <Sn3ipen> Dr_willis: thats a great lesspn to learn
[12:45] <ganesh> xorg-driver-fglrx (version 1:7.1.0-8-3+<IP_ADDRESS>-18.41 from where can i install this driver?
[12:45] <dkorzhevin> FUF,  you can recommend another way?
[12:45] <jpds> ontherocks: There are more sane ways to do it.
[12:45] <neeto> lol, I didn't even read his question, he actually wants to sudo rm -rf /?
[12:45] <Dr_willis> the rm command would ALSO delete all mounted filesystems/files..
[12:45] <FUF> what if he has other filesystems mounted? they'd all be destroyed as well.
[12:45] <esteth> "sudo rm -rf /" will not remove ubuntu. It will remove everything.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> which i imagine he does NOT want to do.
[12:45] <dkorzhevin> Then first read, then write, please.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> plus rm is the slowest way to do so...
[12:45] <Dr_willis> dleteing the partition would be the proper way.
[12:45] <sweBers> dkorzhevin, it'd be better to put in the install disk of the new OS and elect to delete the existing partitions
[12:45] <FUF> Dr_willis: agreed
[12:46] <amanulla> now im unable to launch my ubuntu 7.10 due to some internall error can i go in safe mode and upgrade it t o ubuntu 8.04?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> In any case. he will have to do somthing about grub also.
[12:46] <neeto> amanulla: I would back up your important stuff and do a clean install.
[12:46] <ganesh> how to install ati driver?
[12:46] <amanulla> cant i upgrade?
[12:47] <xbxb> hmmm.... now my kde-window-decorator crashed for the 12th time.
[12:47] <jpds> islamway: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113630
[12:47] <neeto> amanulla: If you are running into errors on your current install, it's doubtful whether an upgrade would help, since the upgrade will be based on your existing 7.10 files.
[12:47] <xbxb> ganesh: what card do you have?
[12:47] <neeto> xbxb: oh you might need to install KDM, and remove GDM if you're using KDE... just a thought, I am not very familiar with the K-side of things
[12:47] <greyfrog> trying to get sudo and NOPASSWD setup for a script...  do you have to restart (init 6) for the changes to sudoers to take effect?
[12:48] <[z]linux> i have a question, is there a guest account in ubuntu? how can i enable it?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> greyfrog,  i never have had to restart for sudoers changes to take effect.
[12:48] <nguyengia> a
[12:48] <greyfrog> Dr_willis, thanks, thats what I thought
[12:48] <Dr_willis> [z]linux,  no there is not.  I dont recall seeing that in any disrto.
[12:48] <xbxb> neeto: would you recommend downloading kubuntu, instead of ubuntu and installing KDE over it?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> [z]linux,  you could just make a user named 'guest'  but you may want to use some other name.
[12:49] <sweBers> can anyone give me a hand?  I have a nvidia geforce 6200, and every time I reinstall my linux headers I need to reinstall the graphics.  Shouldn't there be a command to reload the existing installed drivers?
[12:49] <ganesh> xbxb:ati...dont know the series..when i enabled from system->hardware drivers it says  W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8-3+<IP_ADDRESS>-18.41_i386.deb
[12:49] <ganesh>   404 Not Found
[12:49] <dkorzhevin> islamway, But before, anyway - backup your data.
[12:50] <neeto> xbxb, no, that's messy. Installing KDE and using KDM to select a KDE session, should make sure the KDE processes are started
[12:50] <sweBers> well, I hope islam did not run the command, he was quiet since that command was suggested
[12:50] <neeto> haha yeah, he's toast
[12:51] <xbxb> neeto: you mean installing KDE over gnome is messy?
[12:51] <xbxb> neeto: or downloading kubuntu
[12:51] <neeto> xbxb: no, installing kubuntu over an existing ubuntu install is messy, if not impossible
[12:51] <sweBers> :'^( what a sad ubuntu experience
[12:51] <neeto> sweBers: he was removing it anyway, oh well
[12:52] <Dr_willis> sweBers,  i dont see what the kernel 'headers'  have to do with the nvidia drivers at all.
[12:52] <ganesh> to install vlc which repository to be added?
[12:52] <jrib> !info vlc | ganesh
[12:52] <yeniklasor> When I play full screen flash videos on firefox, it is using all system resources and video is not playing with a good fps. Anyone has this issue or solved this?
[12:52] <vadi> arvind you there
[12:53] <jrib> ganesh: (multiverse)
[12:53] <neeto> Dr_willis: are you compiling the drivers?
[12:54] <bullgard4> What .desktop file corresponds to the GNOME menu item 'Applications'?
[12:54] <ganesh> xbxb:are you there
[12:55] <nnull> hi guys, im running compiz and this happened before i remember but the system just decided for itself "ok you only have 1 desk now" koz when i hover over my 4 desks in the switcher they all say desk 1, anyone help me fix?
[12:55] <jrib> bullgard4: why?
[12:55] <vadi> i am new to ubuntu
[12:55] <jrib> welcome vadi
[12:55] <sweBers> I wouldn't know why this happens at all.  I just completed the most recent security update for the linux headers and need to reboot.  I know that when I do, I'll be in low graphics mode and will need to exit kde, go into single user mode, and install the graphics drivers, which will detect the previous installation.  The upside is that there is usually an update by nvidia, the downside is that there really ought to be a better way of d
[12:55] <sweBers> oing this.
[12:55] <bullgard4> jrib: Because I'd like to bind the AccessIBM key to it.
[12:56] <vadi> before i asked about desktop effect could not be enabled
[12:56] <vadi> i have been asked to install via drivers
[12:56] <jrib> bullgard4: you are confusing me now.  Do you just want to bind a key on your keyboard that opens your menu?
[12:56] <vadi> i installed and reboot my screen having horizontal lines
[12:57] <vadi> is it possible to fix it
[12:57] <bullgard4> jrib: Yes. I would like to press the special key 'AccessIBM' so that this menu item will open.
[12:57] <vadi> jrib, you there
[12:58] <jrib> vadi: yes, but I don't know anything about the via drivers
[12:58] <sweBers> vadi, horizontal lines, like the screen is too far to the top or bottom?
[12:58] <jrib> bullgard4: use system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:58] <vadi> its  like lots of white lines
[12:59] <marions> hello
[12:59] <Jafet> jrib, it can't open the Applications menu, can it?
[12:59] <vadi> swebers, when i was installing its self it appear but i press f4 then i change mode
[12:59] <jrib> Jafet: isn't that what alt-f1 does by default?
[13:00] <marions> poa sana
[13:00] <marions> nkosi sikelela
[13:00] <jrib> marions: english?
[13:00] <geev> if i need to to check in may computer any functioning crontab where to go am using ubuntu 8
[13:01] <Jafet> jrib, oh, it does.
[13:01] <dwhsix|laptop> is there a way to have multiple X session setups?  e.g. sometimes I might want to log in with a lot of apps auto-started (e.g. in the office), sometimes with none (e.g. at the airport)
[13:01] <Jafet> dwhsix|laptop, that has more to do with your desktop than X.
[13:01] <yeniklasor> When I play full screen flash videos on firefox, it is using all system resources and video is not playing with a good fps. Anyone has this issue or solved this?
[13:01] <Dr_willis> dwhsix|laptop,  you could make customized entries for the GDM  login manager I guess...
[13:02] <Dr_willis> dwhsix|laptop,  but there may be a easier way to do it with the gnome-sessions stuff (i rarely use that feature)
[13:02] <dwhsix|laptop> Jafet, Dr_willis: ah, so it's really a gnome question. right
[13:02] <marions> yes it si
[13:02] <dwhsix|laptop> that points me in the right direction, thanks
[13:02] <marions> mavi nyiyi wot
[13:02] <Dr_willis> dwhsix|laptop,  unless you want to use some uber-light-desktop instead of gnome. :)
[13:02] <jrib> does anyone know what marions is saying?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> dwhsix|laptop,  i got 'jwm' set for a fast desktop boot/minimal system.. and gnome for full desktop ussage
[13:03] <sweBers> could try translating via google translator
[13:03] <dwhsix|laptop> Dr_willis: interesting, I hadn't thought of that approach
[13:03] <jrib> sweBers: do you know the language or does translator not care anymore?
[13:04] <dembo> Hi
[13:04] <ntlntn> ciao
[13:04] <Dr_willis> dwhsix|laptop,  theres more to the linux 'desktop' then just gnome. :)
[13:04] <dembo> Since I upgraded to hardy, my dvd reader and my dvd writer can't mount discs properly
[13:04] <dembo> (at all)
[13:04] <dembo> Can i force an auto-detect/rebuild of fstab?
[13:04] <Dr_willis> dembo,  can you mount them manually from the command line?
[13:05] <sweBers> nkosi sikelela is south africa's national anthem
[13:05] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you very much for information.
[13:05] <dembo> Dr_willis: I either added or uncommented: /dev/scd0        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[13:05] <jrib> bullgard4: no problem
[13:05] <dembo> but mount /media/cdrom0 gives wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[13:05] <SJrX>  Anyone know a utility that will autocrop a white rectangle around a bunch of images.
[13:06] <dwhsix|laptop> Dr_willis: I know :-) but I actually like gnome
[13:06] <gms3gr> what is the best torrent client?
[13:06] <Dr_willis> dembo,   could check dmesg and be sure the cd is /dev/scd0 still (no idwa why it would change)
[13:06] <sweBers> marions English, Afrikaans, isiNdebele, isiXhosa, isiZulu, Sepedi, Sesotho, Setswana, siSwati, Tshivenda or Xitsonga?
[13:07] <dembo>  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[13:07] <Jakob_the_liar> can someone quickly tell me what the default font for gnome-terminal is?
[13:07] <BugeyeD> hi all. what's the proper way to disable gdm (console logins only)?
[13:07] <jrib> Jakob_the_liar: "monospace"
[13:07] <Jakob_the_liar> which size?
[13:07] <jrib> BugeyeD: system -> administration -> services  tick "graphical login"
[13:07] <Jakob_the_liar> i have this set to monospace 12 and it doesnt look anything like it
[13:07] <Steven_M> I intalled mythbuntu without grub by mistake, I'm now booted from the mythbuntu cd, how do I install grub on my system from the terminal without reinstalling mythbuntu?
[13:08] <BugeyeD> jrib: that's only temporary, as far as i can tell. gdm comes back on the next boot.
[13:08] <dembo> Is there a way to regenerate fstab?
[13:08] <jrib> Jakob_the_liar: monospace probably just picks a suitable monospace font
[13:08] <Dr_willis> dembo,  not that ive ever noticed/seen
[13:08] <jrib> BugeyeD: are you sure?  It used to work
[13:08] <Dr_willis> dembo,  be an interesting test to see if a live cd works in that drive.
[13:08] <dembo> hmm
[13:08] <himlfix> Hi, i want to use boost_program_options stuff but every package I think i need for that is installed. In /lib there is no libboost_program_options (moreover nothing with boost in the name)
[13:08] <jrib> BugeyeD: in any case, read 'man update-rc.d' or use sysv-rc-conf
[13:08] <BugeyeD> jrib: not 100% ... i'll try that now and get back with you. after a reboot. :)
[13:09] <bziobnic> is there a simple way to purge all packages with an "rc" status in dpkg -l?
[13:09] <BugeyeD> jrib: i was thinking the rc.X was no longer used as before. i may be thinking of solaris ...
[13:09] <Steven_M> anyone?
[13:09] <sweBers> I'm probably going to need to ask the forums my question.
[13:09] <jrib> BugeyeD: ubuntu moved from sysv to upstart a few releases ago but most of the stuff still uses sysv scripts
[13:10] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub | Steven_M
[13:10] <himlfix> I have installed libboost-dev, libboost-program-options1.34 and libboost-program-options-dev
[13:10] <himlfix> the headers are allready there but no lib files
[13:10] <dembo> data CDs work, but music CDs and DVDs don't work
[13:11] <Dr_willis> dembo,  well you dont mount music cd's
[13:11] <Dr_willis> dembo,   not sure about  video dvds :)
[13:11] <Steven_M> thanks
[13:12] <BugeyeD> jrib: you were correct about gdm, thanks. i *must* have been thinking of solaris ... time to re-check my own wiki :)
[13:13] <frank602> test
[13:13] <BugeyeD> frank602: test sat
[13:13] <sweBers> frank602, you've been heard
[13:14] <frank602> Yes thank u
[13:14] <hummesse> hi everybody. I've got a question (surprise!)
[13:14] <xbxb> u?
[13:14] <xbxb> no way, hummesse
[13:14] <hummesse> I have multiple desktops installed
[13:14] <hummesse> but i only want one
[13:14] <jrib> hummesse: don't use enter to break up your thoughts as it makes it harder to follow what you are saying
[13:15] <hummesse> ok
[13:15] <godgryphon> You're using gnome, right?
[13:15] <Vialas> does anyone know of a free web based server monitoring program?
[13:15] <[z]linux> how can i add a user account that dont need to enter a password, its like a guest account in windows?
[13:15] <godgryphon> Right click on the bottom right, where the desktops are, click preferences and set it to one column.
[13:16] <hammedhaaret> hi.. I can't open the 'menu editor' from >system>settings.    is there a terminal way to open it?
[13:16] <histo> hummesse: what do you mean down at the bottom right?
[13:16] <psp> I have installed ubuntu with wubi to fat32 partion. If I convert it to ntfs will ubuntu corrupt?
[13:16] <sweBers> if you're using gnome, right click on the grid in the bottom right (where windows system tray is) and select preferences.  tell your computer that you only want 1 workspace
[13:16] <histo> hammedhaaret: alacarte
[13:16] <sweBers> that comment was for hummesse
[13:17] <hummesse> well i have multiple desktop invironments installed. I only want one. Its pretty easy just to remove say kubuntu-desktop, but a lot of the from kubuntu will still be there. So how do i remove all the dekstop invironments that i dont want with their apps.
[13:17] <favro> !puregnome
[13:17] <hummesse> btw i still want to keep the apps that kubuntu has in common with ubuntu
[13:17] <nnull> hi guys, im running compiz and this happened before i remember but the system just decided for itself "ok you only have 1 desk now" koz when i hover over my 4 desks in the switcher they all say desk 1, anyone help me fix?
[13:18] <hummesse> thanks!
[13:18] <himlfix> I want to use boost_program_options (in my code). Therefore installed libboost-dev, libboost-programm-options1.34.1 and libboost-programm-options-dev.  The include files are there but i have no lib files in /lib (ls /lib|grep boost lists nothing). Which package contains the lib files? (using desktop ubuntu 8.04)
[13:18] <histo> hummesse: well then you just want to remove certain packages.
[13:18] <histo> hummesse: or you can remove it all and just install the apps you like again.
[13:18] <jrib> himlfix: looked in /usr/include/ ?
[13:19] <sweBers> nnull, do you switch between desks when you click on them?
[13:19] <nnull> yeh
[13:19] <sweBers> so, it's just an issue with the flag you are seeing
[13:20] <hammedhaaret> histo: huh, really? thanks, but it gives a wierd error about python and 'inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation'
[13:20] <nnull> i seek a flag?
[13:20] <hummesse> yeah i guess so, thanks
[13:20] <histo> hammedhaaret: what? gives you an error
[13:20] <himlfix> jrib: well the include files are there but no .a files - when i try to compile my programm g++ tells me about unresolved symbols during linking
[13:20] <sweBers> a flag, like in the pop up text that you see when you hover over something
[13:20] <nnull> just sux dude, totally makes workplaces useless and uve got this sexy cube that is kinda uselss
[13:20] <hammedhaaret> histo: alacarte
[13:20] <Alexabix> yo
[13:20] <nnull> so how do i change this flag
[13:20] <nnull> in gconf-editor?
[13:21] <davidfraser> I'm just uploading my first packages to my PPA. The binaries say they were built successfully, but only the source packages appear in the PPA. Is there something I have to do to trigger them uploading, or will they just appear after a while (and if so, how long)?
[13:21] <IsUp> hello
[13:21] <jrib> himlfix: pastebin a small boost hello world that fails and your gcc line
[13:21] <IsUp> how can i use ramfs on ubuntu server?
[13:21] <sweBers> Not sure, I'm just paring down the information and hope someone will stop me if i say something stupid.
[13:21] <davidfraser> Ah, about 19 minutes, and they just appeared now :-)
[13:21] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Places > Connect to Server > Service type: SSH > In what circumstances should I assert the 'Add bookmark' check box?
[13:21] <nnull> wouldnt hold ure breathe
[13:22] <nnull> u can get answers in offtopic but then they rage u for asking there lol
[13:22] <sweBers> i don't know, everyone jumped out of their chair at once earlier over islamway
[13:22] <Alexabix> Just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a 2nd partition on my HD. When ever I boot the computer it still loads Windows automatically though. How can I get it to give me dual boot options?
[13:22] <himlfix> http://pastebin.com/d698f1bde
[13:22] <xbxb> hmm, after reinstalling ubuntu my internet connection does not work. in gnome, network tools, I can see both network interfaces, but when I hit 'configure' it says that they don't exist. what can I do?
[13:23] <jrib> bullgard4: when you want to save the settings in a bookmark so you can connect again later without filling everything in
[13:23] <himlfix> but the code is not the problem the errors I get from the linker
[13:23] <xbxb> nvm, it works now :/
[13:23] <himlfix> I miss the lib files (i think libboost_program_options.(a|so) in /lib)
[13:23] <IsUp> any ideas about ramfs? or ramdisk whatever it called
[13:24] <Cabs> help i installed *buntu on my friends computer but it won't read certain burned cds, also i need a program to be able to open raw riles
[13:24] <bullgard4> jrib: Where can I look up these bookmarks then?
[13:24] <sweBers> i'm thinking your problem may be different from what I'm thinking.  I don't have a cube, I have 4 tiles
[13:24] <nnull> raw riles are nice
[13:24] <jrib> himlfix: don't you need to do -lboost (no idea if that's the right syntax) or something?
[13:24] <Cabs> nnull: i specifically need to be able to open them and edit them, had already downloaded bibble pro
[13:25] <logansan01> j
[13:25] <Cabs> and certain cds that he had burned in windows before arent being mounted
[13:25] <sweBers> well, listen, I need to restart to get my header files straight then reinstall my video.    Haven't used c++ in a while
[13:25] <jrib> s/error/here
[13:25] <nnull> ok cheer sweBers
[13:25] <nnull> cheers*
[13:26] <Dr_willis> IsUp,  seen some tutorials befor on ot - on google.. years ago..  Not sure why you would even want to bother with it these days
[13:26] <himlfix> jrib: yes thats right i need -lboost_program_options but the libboost_program_options.a is missing on my system (at least in the folders listed in /etc/ld.so.conf)
[13:27] <jrib> himlfix: I get a bunch of hits in /usr/lib/ for that.  Do you have it there?
[13:27] <Cabs> Dr_willis: can you help me? i have to set up this computer as a sort of emergency, basically i need to be able to open and edit raw format files
[13:27] <IsUp> i am playing some audio files on my PBX server
[13:27] <IsUp> i want to speed up
[13:27] <soenke> hi, is there any possibilty with nvidia and twin view to auto-switch the "primary" display to the second screen once it's plugged in (so the deskbar and taskbar are switched to the second screen)
[13:27] <Cabs> and fix the fact that some cds arent mounting
[13:28] <recon69> hi all, is anyone else getting "Connection Interrupted " when tring to use some web sites. I for some reason I cant log into my hotmail account, I get connection interrupted message when i try login, and in yahoo mail i can log in and see a list of mail, but when i try view a message i get the interrupted message. ant to make it even more fun the problem is intermittent and only occurs when i am using a wireless connection. any suggestions?
[13:29] <IsUp> recon69
[13:30] <IsUp> try pinging your router while browsing your mails
[13:30] <IsUp> ping yourrouterip -c 500000
[13:30] <IsUp> and see what u got
[13:30] <[z]linux> how come everytime i want to post a reply in forum i got this message? http://paste.ubuntu.com/41216/
[13:30] <Dr_willis> Cabs,  what are 'raw' files?
[13:31] <Ziroday> [z]linux: you have to be logged in
[13:31] <Cabs> photography riles
[13:31] <recon69> IsUp: pings no problem "64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.34 ms"
[13:31] <Cabs> Dr_willis: photography files
[13:31] <Cabs> panasonic
[13:31] <d4t2ill4> hi
[13:31] <Ziroday> Dr_willis: they are file format that photographers use to get extra definition/information
[13:31] <jrib> argh, where did himlfix go...
[13:32] <Siegfried> today intrepid wants me to put kbd and remove console-tools
[13:32] <Siegfried> should i do that?
[13:32] <[z]linux> im already logged in.. as you can see in the message, i have my username as zerlneo
[13:32] <IsUp> recon69 you got any timeouts?
[13:32] <Moult> does xubuntu have driver support for usb internet connection?
[13:32] <Dr_willis> Cabs,  peraps gimp can load them.    Ive never used raw befor.
[13:32] <Ziroday> Siegfried: intrepid in #ubuntu+1 please
[13:32] <Siegfried> thanks ziroday
[13:32] <[z]linux> Ziroday: im already logged in.. as you can see in the message, i have my username as zerlneo
[13:33] <islamway> neeed help when im instal any dep
[13:33] <recon69> IsUp: not time outs as such, as far as i can see there seem to be a problem with encryption and secure pages
[13:33] <islamway> masg tell me
[13:33] <Ziroday> [z]linux: well then you might have been banned for some reason
[13:34] <Ziroday> [z]linux: go ask an ubuntu forums admin to assist you
[13:34] <Orbixx> islamway: Try using a proper sentence.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> islamway,  you may want to restate your question/problem in a more clear way.   and any error messages you get,. and what exactly you are trying to do.
[13:35] <jrmint> hello, I have a network drive by Lacie , i can ftp to it fine using the terminal , but when i use a program it connects but then doesn't show me the dir listing. any ideas why that would be?
[13:35] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to install openssh-server into the initrd image?
[13:35] <hammedhaaret> Hi.  my >system>settings>'menu editor' won't start.  tried 'alacarte' but got an import error of libasound.so.2
[13:36] <moumic> hi
[13:36] <Dr_willis> vlt,  i would be impressed at that. :) busybox CAN work as a mini-ssh server however. but thats not what you asked.
[13:37] <Ziroday> hammedhaaret: can you pastebin the full error please
[13:37] <recon69> so seems I can buy a new wireless card and hope that fixes it, or install xp. really cant say I'm happy with 8.04. nothing but problems.
[13:38] <joaopinto> Hello
[13:38] <Ziroday> recon69: what is your exact issue please
[13:38] <Flawd95> hey all!
[13:38] <joaopinto> I am trying to reinstall mysql-server-5.0
[13:38] <joaopinto> I got the following error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.0.postinst: line 143: /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.cnf: No such file or directory
[13:38] <joaopinto> any suggestions ?
[13:38] <sint> hey, is it possible to have some kind of "if drive exist" for fstab?
[13:38] <vlt> Dr_willis: Ok, I'll modify my question ;-)  Can I run an ssh daemon in initrd? I want to be able to activate a LUKS crypt root fs from remote ...
[13:38] <Orbixx> joaopinto: updatedb
[13:38] <hammedhaaret> Ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41218/
[13:38] <joaopinto> Orbixx, hum ?
[13:38] <Orbixx> locate old_passwords.cnf
[13:39] <joaopinto> Orbixx, there is no such file, because /etc/mysql was removed
[13:39] <Ziroday> hammedhaaret: please file a bug report regarding that issue
[13:39] <cluck_norris> hi
[13:39] <rom1v> hi
[13:40] <rom1v> will wicd included in default repositories in intrepid?
[13:40] <joaopinto> I am installing the package, I was not expected to have any cnfig files
[13:40] <hammedhaaret> Ziroday: Ok, will do.  launchpad right?  I'm using OSS4 by the way. if the libasound is the problem
[13:40] <Ziroday> rom1v: ask the wicd devs
[13:40] <rom1v> they have their own repositories for the moment
[13:40] <Ziroday> hammedhaaret: correct, I can get you the bug reporting docs if you want
[13:41] <Dr_willis> vlt,  :) I dont know much about modifying the initrd. but if you figure out how.. in theory you could set up busybox to work as a ssh server. (seen that done befor)
[13:41] <joaopinto> rom1v, try #ubuntu+1 for intrepid questions
[13:41] <hammedhaaret> Ziroday: yeah, would be nice.  thanks
[13:41] <recon69> Ziroday: well have 3 issues, 1) I get kernal panics regularly, 2) I cant access secure web pages intermittently , 3) pulse audio stutter now and then, and sometimes becomes unavailable due to being busy
[13:42] <Owner__> Can someone point me where I can manually download the latest version of Wifi Radar?
[13:42] <Ziroday> hammedhaaret: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[13:42] <vadi> i am new to ubuntu
[13:42] <favro> !hi | vadi
[13:42] <recon69> vadi: welcome :)
[13:42] <Ziroday> recon69: right, let me find something to hopefully help your PA issues
[13:43] <jrib> RakZer1: google "wifi radar"
[13:43] <vadi> desktop effect is possible is not enabled
[13:43] <Ziroday> recon69: please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965 regarding PA issues
[13:43] <vadi> i mean desktop effect is not enabled
[13:44] <Ziroday> recon69: also by secure you mean https pages?
[13:44] <Ziroday> vadi: have you installed the correct video drivers?
[13:44] <Denise> can i connect on a satellite with wifi radar?
[13:44] <anhdh> when i open the 3rd tab in firefox the system hang for a minute , can smb help me ??
[13:44] <Ziroday> Denise: no, it is only for wireless connections
[13:44] <vadi> i don't know how can i check up plz
[13:44] <RakZer1> frib: thanks...didnt realize it was so popular..
[13:44] <Denise> I thought satellites were wireless
[13:44] <Denise> lol
[13:45] <Ziroday> anhdh: please run firefox from the command line and pastebin the output after opening the third tab
[13:45] <[z]linux> anyone here using freenx?
[13:45] <Jafet> I don't think you can reach them with any WiFi standard, Denise.
[13:45] <Denise> awe
[13:45] <vadi> ziroday, my vedio driver is via
[13:45] <Denise> and how I reach them?
[13:45] <Ziroday> vadi: check to see if your drivers are installed in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[13:46] <Ziroday> vadi: specifically what version?
[13:46] <anhdh> Ziroday, what ??? the window become dark and how am i suppose to do that??
[13:46] <vadi> ziroday, its blank
[13:46] <Jafet> Denise, using überspeshel satellite internet hardware, I suppose.
[13:46] <RakZer1> jrib: their download link for ubuntu is bad...
[13:46] <Ziroday> anhdh: open a terminal, type in firefox open 3 tabs
[13:46] <vadi> ziroday, how do i check up version plz
[13:46] <Denise> is a neighbor can plug me with him?
[13:46] <Ziroday> anhdh: then pastebin everything the terminal says
[13:47] <anhdh> Ziroday, ok
[13:47] <Ziroday> vadi: pastebin the output of lspci
[13:47] <Jafet> Denise, probably, if the provider is happy about it.
[13:47] <jrib> RakZer1: no it's not.  It points you to packages.ubuntu.com, which is the same as what you get through APT already.  Why do you not want to use the version in the repositories?
[13:48] <Denise> how close does my neighbor has to be?
[13:48] <Ziroday> recon69: you still with me?
[13:48] <recon69> Ziroday: not https pages as such. the problem is that I cant view some web pages. for example I cant login hotmail. when this problem occurs lots of things stop working. I cant use paste bins.
[13:48] <Denise> have to be
[13:48] <RakZer1> jrib: becuase I wam on a windows machine, attempting to work with a ps3 that has no data access
[13:48] <Jafet> Denise, you're saying your neighbour has satellite internet and you want to piggyback?
[13:48] <Ziroday> recon69: hmm, this seems extremely odd. What exactly happens?
[13:48] <Denise> nonono
[13:48] <Denise> never
[13:48] <Denise> we just want to make a two-in-one
[13:49] <jrib> RakZer1: packages.ubuntu.com is timing out right now, but it will come back.  Copy the deb
[13:49] <Ghufran> hi
[13:49] <Jafet> Denise I suppose you'll want a "satellite router", if one exists.
[13:49] <jrib> RakZer1: packages.ubuntu.com is timing out right now, but it will come back.  If you don't want to wait, copy the deb directly from a repository
[13:49] <Denise> I need to have it in my system?
[13:49] <Ghufran> i want to have some info on CPU frequency scaling with Penryn processors
[13:49] <vadi> pastebin site name plz
[13:49] <mg> Hey People! I tried to create a user dedicated for surfing.
[13:49] <mg> I added it with "adduser surf" and gave him a homedir.
[13:49] <mg> when i do "su surf" and "firefox" i get "(firefox-bin:8897): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[13:50] <Ziroday> !pastebin > vadi
[13:50] <mg> Any ideas?
[13:50] <Ghufran> is there any support for this processor family in any kernel
[13:50] <Ziroday> mg: why did you not create a user using users-admin
[13:50] <RakZer1> jrib: I just want to get a file that works for once, so I'll wait. Ihave been trying for DAYS to get wifi working on PS3 Xubuntu (following various tutorials etc) all of which are broken in some way...
[13:50] <vadi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41224/
[13:50] <Jafet> Denise, or you could plug a router to the satellite modem and connect multiple machines to the router.
[13:50] <Jafet> Denise, not sure how that works either.
[13:50] <mg> Ziroday: because i dont know users-admin
[13:50] <recon69> Ziroday: so what exactly is happening is very hard to figure out. I have been looking at wireshark output to see if i can get a clue. might have something to do with certificates. but who knows. I get a edimax wifi card which was a total bitch to get working. so could be a ndistwrapper problem or a driver problem.
[13:51] <Jafet> Denise, I suppose your provider would help with this...
[13:51] <evo> yoooo
[13:51] <RakZer1> jrib: wifi is working, well, people have it working, but for some unkown reason, it wasnt (^$@($@ implemented and now the way to do it is broken in the repo
[13:51] <Denise> multiple machine
[13:52] <jrib> RakZer1: what do you mean by "broken in the repo"?
[13:52] <Denise> so I have to be connected with the router of my neighbor
[13:52] <jrib> RakZer1: the link on the wifi radar page for ubuntu is exactly the repo version
[13:52] <leeping2008> Hey there, I need some help regarding NFS sharing ... I want to share some subdirectories of my home folder on computer A and mount it on computer B.  Do I need root privileges and edit /etc/exports on computer A?
[13:52] <yusuf1> leaving
[13:52] <RakZer1> jrib: the repo's for the method of getting wifi to work on a PS3 in Xubuntu are broken.
[13:53] <Denise> I would have to be on his network and him with his sateelite modem he is plugged with the satellite
[13:53] <RakZer1> jrib: referring to this article here...most others refer to similar steps... Also, the files mentioned lack certain important things like /lib/firmware in deb 2.6.24...
[13:53] <RakZer1> http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup
[13:53] <Denise> seems very simple
[13:54] <jdownie> is it possible to install the ubuntu mid desktop on xubuntu?
[13:54] <prince_jammys> mg: try gksu -u surf firefox
[13:54] <recon69> leeping2008:  you should be able to use samba, but you may have some problems with permission on the ntfs drive
[13:54] <Moult> what livecd supports the drivers for a usb internet connection>
[13:54] <jrib> RakZer1: so is the fix in svn?
[13:54] <mg> prince_jammys: (firefox-bin:9144): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:54] <trukosh> Hi, anyone knows how to read "Novell Netware 386" file system?
[13:54] <Thaes_GaDioLi> ^^
[13:54] <Jafet> Denise, conceptually, but I guess that satellite broadband is pretty much still very proprietary in terms of techs and protocols and so you might have problems getting it to work with other stuff.
[13:54] <RakZer1> jrib: so someone mentioned wifi radar 'might' help..through some incredibly small chance...may somehow make it work...so I am trying it, even though it just seems like a way to manage an already functioning wifi setup
[13:54] <equa> once again im screwed sigh
[13:55] <Denise> do i need a special modem?
[13:55] <leeping2008> recon69, I am already using NFS to share directories over the LAN, I'd like to stick to that if possible .. is there no user-specific folder sharing in NFS?
[13:55] <rr_> :) :D
[13:55] <Jafet> Denise, probably. It would come with a big shiney dish.
[13:55] <Denise> hmm
[13:55] <jrib> RakZer1: have you found a bug at bugs.ubuntu.com?  That's probably the best source of info and usually has comments with workarounds if they exist
[13:56] <Denise> but if my neighbor has his big dish?
[13:56] <RakZer1> ...
[13:56] <RakZer1> jrib: are you a bot?
[13:56] <Jafet> Denise, so your neighbour already has satellite internet?
[13:56] <recon69> leeping2008: sorry, missread your post, thought it was ntfs drive you where trying to share
[13:56] <Denise> yes
[13:56] <RakZer1> jrib: no PS3 experience with Ubuntu, I take it?
[13:56] <prince_jammys> mg: ok, one more. try: sudo -i -u surf <enter> and then 'firefox'
[13:56] <equa> woke up this morning to some crazy people at the pump fighting over fuel and bottled water sigh
[13:56] <bastid_raZor> Denise; you need for him to have a router that broadcasts wifi.. you need a router to receive wifi.
[13:57] <Denise> hum
[13:57] <ThOuGhtFuL> i have a problem here
[13:57] <ThOuGhtFuL> ^^
[13:57] <jrib> RakZer1: right
[13:57] <equa> not a good day for people down south
[13:57] <ducks> ducks
[13:57] <ducks> gg
[13:57] <ducks> ㅎㅎ
[13:57] <Denise> it must be a special router
[13:57] <ThOuGhtFuL> my grub is with error 21
[13:57] <ducks> 흠
[13:57] <jrib> ducks: stop
[13:57] <FloodBot3> ducks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <prince_jammys> mg: i doubt there was a problem in the way you created the new user. the problem is that the environment isn't set properly when you are switching to that user.
[13:57] <Theaxiom> If I can't fix grub no matter what I do, and it always comes out with the result of "selected disk does not exist" when I select an OS, would it be a good idea to create a boot partition?
[13:57] <leeping2008> recon69, no problem. :)  I am curious about whether I can serve specific drives by modifying files other than in /etc
[13:57] <Denise> but I cant be connected with him via my cable?
[13:57] <vadi> i am new to ubuntu
[13:57] <d4t2ill4> hi can some1 show me how to connect to my wireless with iwconfig?
[13:57] <Denise> just as a regular network?
[13:58] <bastid_raZor> Denise; if he has a router that you can plug in to, yes.
[13:58] <Jafet> Theaxiom, I don't see what that problem has to do with a separate boot partition.
[13:58] <leeping2008> I guess the other option is to rsync the home directories every day at 3 AM ...
[13:58] <RakZer1> jrib: the user details using the intrd and kernel from here: http://cell.fixstars.com/ps3linux/download/cell-linux-addon-latest/CELL-Linux-CL_latest-ADDON/target/ , (lacking firmware for update intrafs step), and says you rpm2cpio it (however this never works, and ubuntu insists you use Alien instead, which I think is also a problem...)
[13:58] <Jafet> Denise, that's what a router does. It lets many machines share one internet link.
[13:58] <ThOuGhtFuL> i have the smae problem
[13:58] <Jafet> (And makes a LAN, but that's another thing)
[13:58] <Denise> ok
[13:58] <mg> prince_jammys: how should i switch to the user if not with su?
[13:58] <Denise> so if he has all the devices
[13:58] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I have reinstalled grub numerous times, and tried everything I can find, and I can not get grub to boot any partitions, even a clean ubuntu install! It always says "selected disk does not exist" Do you know what is going on?
[13:58] <ThOuGhtFuL> i have winxp in my eee-pc
[13:58] <Denise> i just have to be in his network
[13:59] <bastid_raZor> Denise; you need a wifi card.
[13:59] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I even tried unplugging my RAID controller and doing everything from scratch
[13:59] <ThOuGhtFuL> and install ubuntu in my sdcard
[13:59] <Deiz> How can I change the virtual terminal keyboard layout?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> mg: sudo has more options for setting the environment. try the last command i pasted.
[13:59] <Jafet> Theaxiom, no idea at all.
[13:59] <Denise> can it be in the modem?
[13:59] <ThOuGhtFuL> but my grub have a problem
[13:59] <geev> any body knows how to install delphi on ubuntu
[13:59] <prince_jammys> mg: sudo doesn't have to be used strictly for super-users.
[13:59] <Jafet> Hmm, RAID might be tricky for grub.
[13:59] <eth01> geev: apt-get
[13:59] <d4t2ill4> so far i've go:t sudo iwconfig ath0 mode managed essid "my pizza" key [1] key s:"xxxxxxxxx" rate auto channel any but when I do dhclient i can not get an ip
[13:59] <eth01> geev: sudo apt-cache search delphi*
[14:00] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I even tried eliminating the RAID controller...
[14:00] <Jafet> Denise, a modem only goes to one machine, etc.
[14:00] <bastid_raZor> Denise; you have to have some way of receiving signal.
[14:00] <Cabs> prince_jammys: can you help me? i just stuck in a cd of his backups which is suposed to have some important pics for his exhibit, it's saying: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, missing codepage or helper program or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog try dmesg try dmesg| tail or so
[14:00] <Theaxiom> Jafet: Everything worked before I moved all my components to a new computer case, now everything is screwed, I can not even boot into WIndoze
[14:00] <Jafet> Denise, I suppose you could connect the modem to a router, although I'm not sure how you would specifically accomplish that.
[14:00] <Denise> could it be outside?
[14:00] <Jafet> Denise, could what be outside of what?
[14:00] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I am on the live cd, thank god for the live cd
[14:01] <prince_jammys> Cabs: what command did you type?
[14:01] <Denise> the signal receiver
[14:01] <Denise> outside of the house
[14:01] <Jafet> Theaxiom, yes, thank god for that.
[14:01] <tuxice> seveas?
[14:01] <Jafet> Denise, the dish obviously should be outside to get a clear signal...
[14:01] <Deiz> How can I change the virtual terminal keyboard layout? <- No ideas?
[14:01] <Cabs> prince_jammys: none i just stuck the cd when i clicked on open cd it popped up a window that's empty and showed that msg
[14:01] <Theaxiom> If I setup manual partitions during the ubuntu install, and I setup a partition for /boot will it automatically install my boot stuff to that partition?
[14:02] <isyerinde_bunala> i need help
[14:02] <Denise> what about a device who needs to receive a signal from a close dish
[14:02] <bastid_raZor> Denise; for the last time.. he needs to broadcast wifi with a router, you need a receiver which will be a wifi card/adapter. simple as that.
[14:02] <Jafet> Theaxiom, no idea. I would just open menu.lst and check everything against the hardware config after I make any changes to anything.
[14:02] <Theaxiom> Jafet: Everything in menu.lst is perfect though
[14:03] <isyerinde_bunala> my proccessor is always working %99
[14:03] <Jafet> Then I have no idea at all; all my problems have been with menu.lst.
[14:03] <Denise> wifi card/adapter
[14:03] <jrib> RakZer1: tried #ubuntu-ps3 by the way?
[14:03] <Theaxiom> Jafet: ah-ha when I installed grub this last time, after unplugging the RAID, it did not update my menu.lst - I will modify this and reboot and see if that works, thanks Jafet
[14:04] <recon69> Denise: are you trying to share your neighbours satellite connection?
[14:04] <Denise> hmm
[14:04] <milestone> hi all
[14:04] <Denise> sort of
[14:04] <Denise> we want to make a network
[14:04] <eth01> satellite connection?
[14:04] <eth01> yuck
[14:04] <isyerinde_bunala> but i dont know why?
[14:04] <isyerinde_bunala> and i look system manager
[14:05] <acemo> Is there a way to get into a console with the server cd?
[14:05] <Theaxiom> Would /dev/sdb5 be (hd1,4) in grub?
[14:05] <isyerinde_bunala> working processor but dont see which program use this
[14:05] <Denise> just asking
[14:05] <Denise> ty
[14:05] <Bert_2> Hi, I want to play the game uplink on my linux system, now I have a twinview monitor setup so it always want to be on both windows and I can't get it to be any smaller, so I would like to force or fool it into a windows, now some persons told me I should use Xnesting but I can't really find that out. Does anyone know a way to do that and can he explain that to mee ?
[14:05] <Woet> After installing wine, my theme reset to all gray and ugly. How to reset to how it was?
[14:05] <recon69> Denise: well, there are several ways you can do this. first what networking hardware do you have?
[14:05] <favro> acemo: with no gui you are in a console :)
[14:05] <Denise> none
[14:05] <Cabs> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41228/
[14:05] <Woet> compiz fusion is turned off all of the sudden and everything is grey and blue
[14:06] <legend2440> isyerinde_bunala: in terminal type    top
[14:06] <Jafet> Theaxiom, yeh, problems in that file are notoriously difficult to spot and difficult to diagnose when they explode.
[14:06] <acemo> favro: i mean like.. a console where i can reinstall grub instead of installing the whole os
[14:06] <recon69> Denise: well, that makes it a little hard, simplest option is to use a crossover cable connecting two computers
[14:07] <Denise> crossover
[14:07] <Denise> from house to house?
[14:07] <favro> acemo: iirc there is an option when booting the cd to rescue a broken system
[14:07] <Theaxiom> Jafet: Yes, grub hardly ever fails, but when it does, I hear it is fantastic!
[14:07] <acemo> favro: that option brings me to a sort of installer :S
[14:08] <favro> acemo: it should be a chroot environment
[14:09] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:09] <recon69> Denise: if you cant cable the two computers your next option is to buy 2 wireless network cards, setup a wireless Access point on one of the computers
[14:09] <acemo> favro: it seems like a normal installer, just that it says rescue mode on top left side
[14:09] <recon69> Denise: but range might be a problem.
[14:10] <Denise> range?
[14:10] <Denise> what u mean
[14:10] <Jafet> recon69, heh, he's using an effing satellite link...
[14:10] <favro> acemo: #ubuntu-server might be a better option
[14:10] <Jafet> Denise, common wireless hardware have limited communication range.
[14:10] <Jafet> Denise, how far apart are the houses?
[14:11] <Denise> u talking about the distance
[14:11] <Jafet> Yes.
[14:11] <Denise> hum
[14:11] <acemo> favro: alright
[14:11] <prince_jammys> Cabs: try (in terminal) : mount /media/cdrom && ls /media/cdrom
[14:11] <Jafet> 100 meter wireless seems a very safe investment.
[14:11] <Denise> about 2 or 3 kilometers
[14:11] <Jafet> Between you and your "neighbour"!?
[14:11] <Denise> yes
[14:11] <Denise> we live in plain country
[14:11] <recon69> Denise: cable is good for about 1000m , wireless 100m if you lucky
[14:11] <Theaxiom> jafet: What does this do under my vista entry: map             (hd0) (hd1)
[14:12] <Denise> cable 1000m
[14:12] <Denise> hmm
[14:12] <Theaxiom> jafet: I have that entry, and then right under it I have another one, but they are inverted, like (hd1) (hd0)
[14:12] <Denise> so we have to use the conventional internet connection
[14:12] <Cabs> prince_jammys: mount /media/cdrom && ls /media/cdrom look at this please: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213696
[14:12] <milestone> I have setup a mailserver (postfix+maildrop)
[14:12] <Denise> between the two houses
[14:12] <milestone> as a mailbox_command I have defined maildrop
[14:12] <Jafet> Theaxiom, Windows is very picky about disks, I hear; it'll only boot from the primary partition. grub remaps them to fool the Windows drivers.
[14:12] <milestone> so the user needs a $HOME/.mailfilter to function properly
[14:13] <milestone> since i made it generic, I have copied the .mailfilter to /etc/skel
[14:13] <milestone> when I create a new User, the file gets copied, but the permissions stay on root:root
[14:13] <milestone> any suggestions on where to tell that the permissions need to be updated as well?
[14:13] <ianliu_88> is there a way to make the gnome terminal show only the current dir on the command line? for example, if I am at /usr/lib, make gnome terminal show foo@bar:lib$
[14:13] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:14] <bastid_raZor> ianliu_88; i have that same prompt.. one sec and i'll give you the info.
[14:14] <root0> howdy. i am trying to understand a security "situation". we use sudo and the root account can't login on GUI on a default install. if one use a grub password, it can be removed very easy using a live cd. if the root account will have a *good* password will this add extra security to system or not? i am concerned about the situation when the system may be booted by one with a live cd. it can remove any grub password, and then reboot and use the system in sin
[14:14] <root0> gle user mode and so it can gain root access. if i add a *strong* password to root will this be good or not?
[14:14] <recon69> Denise: well setting up a local lan over 3km not going to work. you can setup a VPN over the Internet but not sure why you want to network 2 computer so far apart. why do you want to network these two computers?
[14:14] <ianliu_88> bastid_raZor: ok
[14:14] <milestone> ianliu_88, why would you want that?
[14:14] <Denise> hmm
[14:15] <Denise> u want to use private satellite connection
[14:15] <ThOuGhtFuL> someone can chat with me to some help?
[14:15] <octagon> 88?
[14:15] <Denise> VPN
[14:15] <octagon> lol
[14:15] <ianliu_88> milestone: ah, just curiosity.. i find it more readable when in deep dirs
[14:15] <bazhang> ThOuGhtFuL, just ask here
[14:15] <murlidhar> hi all . how to smoothen my fonts . using openbox session. LCD screen
[14:16] <Jafet> root0, you can probably deter most people with a BIOS password.
[14:16] <recon69> Denise: again, I assume you want to network these two computers so that the both can use the satellite connection?
[14:16] <Denise> yes
[14:16] <Jafet> root0, of course, if an attacker has physical access, many things go.
[14:16] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:16] <Denise> and have a securized network
[14:17] <Ktron> jj
[14:17] <Theaxiom> jafet: Yahoo! 12 hours later I am no longer in LiveCD, now it is time to hook up the RAID controller again, and start all over :P
[14:17] <bastid_raZor> ianliu_88; in you /etc/bash.bashrc you need to edit your $TERM.. it should be midway down whenyou open it. you want it to look like this :: PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}\007"'    :with all the quotes
[14:17] <root0> Jafet, the bios password may be reseted with a jumper on the main board. i am trying to reduce the things that one can do even if it has physical access...
[14:17] <sqbell> Hi, is there any way to slow CD-ROM playing CD-Audio down a bit to be less noisy in Ubuntu?
[14:17] <Jafet> Good for you.
[14:18] <ianliu_88> bastid_raZor: Thanks, I will give it a try
[14:18] <recon69> Denise: well, you have a problem then. only solution I can think of is a wireless network using masts on both houses. and that will only work if you have a line of sight between the two houses
[14:18] <prince_jammys> Cabs: i'm seeing this is a common problem with data CDs burned by vista. google 'ubuntu cdrom UDF-fs' for some forum threads
[14:18] <Jafet> root0, if I had physical access, I'd just unscrew the case, take out the harddisk and copy it off.
[14:18] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I think what I may do, is move the HD's off the RAID controller, and just put my optical drives on there to avoid issues, what do you think?
[14:18] <murlidhar> hi all . how to smoothen my fonts . using openbox session. LCD screen
[14:18] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, i would like to disallow ppl to try to type their pw in ssh wrong to often, i cant find the name again for that setting in the sshd_config, what was it called?
[14:18] <Jafet> root0, then I'll try jtr on passwd.
[14:18] <Denise> what is a line of sight?
[14:18] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:18] <Jafet> Theaxiom, no idea there.
[14:18] <root0> Jafet, except the /boot partition it is fully encrypted...
[14:18] <Nom-> Anyone know of a repo that has DB2 9.5 client .debs for hardy?
[14:18] <Theaxiom> Jafet: I am starting to think that the RAID controller does not have a bootable BIOS, and when grub loads, it can't see the drives on it, therefore changing the order, and number of drives. Do you think that may be a possibility?
[14:19] <prince_jammys> Cabs: you'll see some forum links with the same issue you're having.
[14:19] <Denise> and  mast
[14:19] <Jafet> root0, you can't encrypt a bootloader! You can't... load it!
[14:19] <bazhang> Denise, what is your native language
[14:19] <Cabs> prince_jammys: apparently intrepid ibex is able to read the cds
[14:19] <Denise> french
[14:19] <xbxb> Can someone recommend me a *good* tv card for analog cable?
[14:19]  * Cabs is on hardy
[14:19] <xbxb> that works well with ubuntu hardy
[14:19] <RakZer1> Out of 1300+ people in here, does it so happen there is a SINGLE 1 at least who happens to run XUBUNTU on a PS3?
[14:19] <bazhang> denise you may wish to /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:19] <recon69> Denise: a mast is a pole on top of you house. line of sight means that you need to be able to see the other house from yours
[14:19] <root0> Jafet, except the /boot partition, the hard drive is fully encrypted...
[14:19] <Theaxiom> RakZer1: Did you try #xubuntu ?
[14:20] <Jafet> root0, oh.
[14:20] <RakZer1> yep.
[14:20] <Jafet> root0, crafty, eh.
[14:20] <recon69> Denise: no trees or mountains in the way
[14:20] <Denise> ok
[14:20] <Denise> ok
[14:20] <bazhang> RakZer1, check the forums if no one has an answer
[14:20] <Denise> and a mast
[14:20] <prince_jammys> Cabs: also this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/~shree-ksn
[14:20] <Theaxiom> RakZer1: If you want to run operating systems, why don't you try buying a computer? lol
[14:21] <RakZer1> bazhang: OK< Ovbiously. I checked the forums for DAYS, and have now resorted to coming in here and asking.
[14:21] <Jafet> You can toss five hamsters in a cage and install NetBSD on it.
[14:21] <Theaxiom> RakZer1: lol I am just joking
[14:21] <bazhang> RakZer1, iirc there may be an ubuntu-ps3 channel
[14:21] <Theaxiom> Jafet: lmao
[14:21] <root0> Jafet, what you think? should i add a root password or not? i'm not gona use the root account, but i don't wanna leave it available for any one to boot in single user mode...
[14:21] <Denise> can i use my phone pole?
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot > Jafet
[14:22] <Theaxiom> Man people are anal in here
[14:22] <RakZer1> There is info on the Ubuntu wiki on setting it up, which was great. Then there is psubuntu.com, which is fine, except all the tutorials do not work, as the repo's they rely on are changed since new version. (PS3ubuntu official is 7.10)
[14:22] <Theaxiom> !ot > Theaxiom
[14:22] <bazhang> Theaxiom, watch the language.
[14:22] <Jafet> Yes they are, Theaxiom; move along.
[14:22] <RakZer1> and I am in the ubuntu-ps3 channel, no active users...
[14:22] <Cabs> prince_jammys: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~s?
[14:23] <bazhang> RakZer1, you may need to be patient
[14:23] <recon69> Denise:  it's a lot of work and a lot of hardware. probable cheaper to get a second satellite connection for your neighbours
[14:23] <Jafet> root0, not sure there myself.
[14:23] <sqbell> nvm, found the solution (eject -x 4 /dev/cdrom)
[14:23] <Denise> adnd it needs a dish to buy for me?
[14:23] <Brandon_> Is there a way to tell what a user has access to run other than switching to the user and trying it? Like figuring out if user apache can run ssh or something?
[14:24] <root0> bazhang, what you think? should i add a root password or not? i'm not gona use the root account, but i don't wanna leave it available for any one to boot in single user mode...
[14:24] <Denise> hmm
[14:24] <bazhang> root0, best not to; use sudo when you need admin
[14:24] <Plouj> hi
[14:24] <Denise> I go for the network
[14:24] <Denise> with cable connections
[14:24] <bazhang> Denise, how is this related to ubuntu
[14:25] <adi> hi all
[14:25] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:25] <Denise> network manager
[14:25] <arvind_khadri> !hi| adi
[14:25] <Denise> ok I m living
[14:25] <root0> bazhang, i do use sudo and gksudo but i wanna disable the single user mode at boot. many "humans" walk in this room...
[14:25] <Jafet> Brandon, chmod?
[14:25] <recon69> Denise: 2/3 km is just to far for a local area network.
[14:25] <Denise> sorry if i abused of ur patience
[14:25] <adi> who is the best browser for average user in ubuntu?
[14:25] <KaiForce> firefox
[14:25] <Plouj> so, I get this message in the network installer: "No network interfaces detected....You may need to load a specific module for your network card, if you have one. For this, go back to the network hardware detection step." I think my device is supported by the e1000e so I modprobed it. However, no new Ethernet device was created. Is there something I'm missing or is this probably just the wrong driver?
[14:25] <Jafet> Denise, ask your provider, who probably have techs at disposal to help you.
[14:25] <Denise> yes but i"lluse the conventioanl cable
[14:26] <adi> yes but I have crashesh on flash content
[14:26] <Denise> internet connection
[14:26] <adi> very anoying
[14:26] <Denise> and network
[14:26] <Denise> ok
[14:26] <Denise> thanks
[14:27] <Denise> one last question
[14:27] <Denise> can I ?
[14:27] <adi> I need a browser that supports gmail notifier, downthemall and noscript or similiar
[14:27] <adi> and do not crash on flash content
[14:27] <Jafet> adi, as a last resort there is youtube-dl and totem
[14:27] <recon69> Denise: check out VPN(virtual private network). might be what you look for.
[14:27] <Jafet> As for Flash in general I don't think Gnash is there yet.
[14:28] <Denise> ok
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> adi: swiftfox or firefox
[14:28] <bazhang> adi, for flash content use miro; it does nice fullscreen and lets you download
[14:28] <alesund> hi to everyone
[14:28] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again?
[14:28] <adi> ok thnks
[14:28] <bazhang> Woet, ones you installed yourself?
[14:28] <Jafet> !info miro | Jafet
[14:28] <Bert_2> does anyone know why I can't use glx/opengl stuff in an xnest with gdmflexiserver --xnest ???
[14:28] <Woet> bazhang: they all disappeared
[14:29] <bazhang> Woet, is that a yes?
[14:29] <Woet> bazhang: except 1 custom one, which I didnt make
[14:29] <adi> what is miro?
[14:29] <adi> a browser?
[14:30] <bazhang> !info miro | adi
[14:30] <adi> and what is swiftfox?
[14:30] <bazhang> browser adi
[14:30] <legend2440> Woet: is    gnome-themes   installed?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !swiftfox
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !info swiftfox
[14:30] <adi> ah ok
[14:30] <murlidhar> Cabs: update to the latest ubuntu kernel
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> adi: http://getswiftfox.com/
[14:31] <murlidhar> Cabs: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:31] <murlidhar> Cabs: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:31] <adi> so what to do to have gmail youtube and some downthemall integrated in one browser??
[14:31] <root0> adi, firefox 3.0.1 & addblock+ & no script. if ya need youtube or stuf use totem or youtube-dl. after 6 months with ubuntu i never had a single problem with flash.
[14:31] <Woet> legend2440: yes
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> adi: firefox has a gmail thingy that connects to the webmail
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> adi: and flash runs fine
[14:32] <adi> cause im going to this website "ourstage.com"
[14:32] <root0> adi, for gmail you may wanna check Mail Notify but ya have to install it from source if ya wanna SSL/TLS to be enabled. and there are some other tools for checking gmail but i do not recomend them.
[14:33] <Jafet> Swiftfox license seems legally shaky.
[14:33] <adi> and it crash every time
[14:33] <adi> firefox 3.0.1 flash rc 10
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> adi: then youove not installed flash right
[14:33] <Cabs> murlidhar, how do i update to the latest ubuntu kernel?
[14:33] <murlidhar> Woet: check manually if the themes are present in the location . b y using the file manager. at   /usr/share/themes/
[14:33] <bazhang> adi that is not the stable flash
[14:33] <murlidhar> Cabs: i don;t know . :(
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:34] <murlidhar> Cabs: ask someone
[14:34] <murlidhar> Cabs: :)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: id run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first
[14:34] <adi> actually my flash works fine
[14:34] <adi> not even one crash on youtube
[14:34] <bazhang> adi not if it is crashing it doesnt
[14:34] <adi> but if I go to ourstage.com
[14:34] <Cabs> ActionParsnip:  i just changed the sources list wherever it said hardy i substituted with intrepid
[14:34] <adi> firefox crash everytime
[14:34] <Cabs> and saved
[14:35] <Cabs> is that ok?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Cabs
[14:35] <murlidhar> Cabs: no . change it to hardy again
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: thats a distro upgrade not a kernelupgrade
[14:35] <bazhang> Cabs, that should be asked in #ubuntu+1 not here
[14:35] <Cabs> i did, but there was no one there only murlidhar
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: does your system work ok?
[14:35] <bazhang> Cabs, then wait
[14:36] <Woet> murlidhar: they are there
[14:36] <Cabs> ActionParsnip, so i go and change everything to hardy again, then i enter that input into the konsole?
[14:36] <Woet> murlidhar: but not at appearance
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: change back to hardy, then read the upgrade stuff
[14:36] <murlidhar> Woet: hmm no idea then :(
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: does your ubuntu install work ok?
[14:37] <Cabs> ActionParsnip, yes it works well but i'm having this specific problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213696
[14:37] <murlidhar> ActionParsnip: he needs to upgrade to the latest kernel .
[14:37] <murlidhar> ActionParsnip: not distro.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: dont use vista's burning, use a proper tool that sticks to the standards
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> murlidhar: i know, im just curious why he wants intrepid so very badly
[14:38] <bazhang> http://aphroneo.net/sources.list Cabs here is a hardy sources.list
[14:38] <murlidhar> ActionParsnip: cuz intrepid by default has the latest kernel /.
[14:38] <root0> Cabs, one solution available: fix your sources file to use the Hardy repositoryes. enable _all_ repositoryes. do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. but do this in Hardy, not Intrepid.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> murlidhar: true
[14:38] <bazhang> murlidhar, and others take this to either #ubuntu+1 of offtopic please
[14:39] <panther> I am having problems logging into ubuntu using gnome. I can log into failsafe gnome but normal gnome just brings me right back to login screen
[14:39] <adi> ok thnks for all
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: intrepid is full of broken stuff at the moment and you will get a tonne more stuff broken than just some mounting issue due to rubbish cd burning software in vista
[14:40] <murlidhar> ActionParsnip: can't the latest kernel be in hardy ?
[14:40] <bazhang> murlidhar, no
[14:40] <richiefrich> murlidhar: nope
[14:40] <Cabs> ActionParsnip,  what do i do? what root0 said or you? my problem is my buddy is a photographer, i installed ubuntu on his computer and he's got some exhibit and his backups of photos he's got to print were burned from vista
[14:40] <richiefrich> murlidhar: you can compile your own
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> murlidhar: im on Linux fileserver 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 16:57:51 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:41] <murlidhar> Cabs: then i guess u have to wait .till the beta for intrepid is released .
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> murlidhar: august 25th do it for you?
[14:41] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, that is hardy proposed, correct?
[14:41] <richiefrich> murlidhar: what kernel do you need
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: no idea i just dist upgrade when i get kernels are offered
[14:41] <Cabs> all i want to do is have ubuntu be able to read the cds
[14:41] <richiefrich> murlidhar: why not compile it yourself
[14:41] <panther> can anyone help me with a gnome login in problem
[14:41] <Cabs> so what do i do?
[14:41] <murlidhar> richiefrich: cabs needs it
[14:41] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, I dont think the beta was released three days ago
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: burn the disks with better software
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: i dunno if its beta
[14:42] <bazhang> Cabs, use isorecorder2
[14:42] <Cabs> theyre
[14:42] <Cabs> already burned
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: its just what i got
[14:42] <Kootie> hi guys, i need to setup my computer so it broadcasts all the audio on a audiostream. anyone got any ideas on the software i need to use?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: reburn
[14:42] <Cabs> vista's gone...i got rid of  it but his pictures are in cds that were burned on vista
[14:42] <root0> Cabs, if ya read carefully i said to do update && upgrade using Hardy. NOT Intrepid. but enable _all_ repositoryes including -proposed and -backports
[14:42] <Cabs> and he's a pro photographer he needs these pics
[14:42] <recon69> murlidhar: do you have a friend with a laptop running windows? get it , network the two computers and use the laptops CD drive to read the CD's and the network to transfer them
[14:42] <richiefrich> panther: I would check logs if i were you
[14:42] <murlidhar> Cabs: till then wait for since intrepid is alpha4 . it is not advisable for noobs
[14:43] <bazhang> !ot
[14:43] <Jafet> Cabs... rip the CDs on a Windows and recast them in a more useful format?
[14:43] <panther> richiefrich, how do I do that I am really new to linux
[14:43] <bazhang> take intrepid talk to the appropriate channel.
[14:43] <Orbixx> Cabs: If they were burned with the default option, using Windows Vista's built in burning, he could have burned it in Vista's proprietory format (helped out by Roxio) which allows the CD to be written to again.
[14:43] <Orbixx> Which isn't a standard filesystem.
[14:43] <Cabs> root0: i switched the sources.list  back to say hardy wherever it said, now what do i do? what specific command
[14:44] <Orbixx> Thus cannot be read by Ubuntu.
[14:44] <ducks> #우분투
[14:44] <ducks> !#우분투
[14:44] <FloodBot3> ducks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:44] <bazhang> !ko | ducks
[14:44] <manguy> Is there a log or something of the most recent logins?
[14:44] <murlidhar> Cabs: ActionParsnip already told u what to do
[14:44] <manguy> on ubuntu server?
[14:45] <Cabs> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:45] <harry1989> hey all
[14:45] <murlidhar> Cabs: sudo apt-get update first then the second one
[14:45] <Woet> bazhang: except 1 custom one, which I didnt make
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Cabs:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:46] <harry1989> got two problems (initially thought they were related, but through googlem I now think differently
[14:46] <bazhang> Woet, did you save them somewhere?
[14:46] <murlidhar> Cabs: this is advisable if u have a good stable fast internet only
[14:46] <Cabs> ok i jsut did that
[14:46] <carlettas> ciao a tutti
[14:46] <bazhang> Cabs, lets see your sources.list
[14:46] <Cabs> wait
[14:46] <histo> !fr | carlettas
[14:46] <bazhang> !it | carlettas
[14:46] <melter> is there a way to get a printcap file created automatically?
[14:46] <carlettas> !list
[14:47] <histo> bazhang: lol my bad
[14:47] <murlidhar> Cabs: otherwise u have to download the alternate intrepid cd and burn it . and put in the cd rom without rebooting
[14:47] <bazhang> heh
[14:47] <Cabs> i just did sudo apt update and then sudo apt dist upgrade if i did somethign in the wrong order how do i stop it now?
[14:47] <Cabs> i don't have vista
[14:47] <bazhang> murlidhar, please stop with the intrepid talk here.
[14:47] <root0> Cabs, using System > Administration > Software sources, first enable -proposed and -backports. if the install was made from a live cd they are not being enabled by default. ya have to enable them using the method i said or editing your source file. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:47] <Cabs> and i used my friends whole disk when installing ubuntu
[14:47] <histo> Cabs: you didn't do anything wrong. But to stop it you would hit ctrl+c
[14:47] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again? They are in /usr/share/themes!
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: you cant do it the wrong way
[14:47] <histo> Cabs: whats the problem?
[14:47] <murlidhar> bazhang: am sorry , it is more important that he should be helped
[14:47] <carlettas> !list
[14:48] <bazhang> murlidhar, not in this channel if you are talking about #ubuntu+1.
[14:48] <harry1989> 1: pressing any number on numpad restarts XServer, 2: when restarting i get "The greeter application appears to be crashing."
[14:48] <dashnu> why does every usplash theme I download and install fail with only a blinking cursor ? Only the default ubuntu fbsplash works???
[14:48] <harry1989> and then get shown a separate login window different to the default login window for ubuntu
[14:48] <murlidhar> bazhang: the channel is as quiet as it can be
[14:49] <Cabs> ok i typed ctrl+c and did it in the right order
[14:49] <root0> dashnu, because it is a resolution problem? check the logs...
[14:49] <DreamLnr> hello
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> hi DreamLnr
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: i gave you the command, you can copy and paste
[14:50] <DreamLnr> if i have a php file with 777 rights on my server
[14:50] <Cabs> i did it in the order you told me to, it's in the upgrade and dist upgrade remains
[14:50] <DreamLnr> how do i modify it from the outside?
[14:50] <DreamLnr> i.e. hack it
[14:50] <Cabs> root0: how do i do that? i'm on kde right now btw
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: ssh to server, log in and chmod it
[14:51] <Woet> All my themes are gone from system -> preferences -> appearance... how to install it back again? They are in /usr/share/themes!
[14:51] <histo> Woet: how did you get rid of them?
[14:51] <DreamLnr> sorry
[14:51] <Woet> histo: no idea, I installed wine
[14:51] <DreamLnr> you misunderstood me
[14:51] <dashnu> root0: kern.log is empty what is the log file?
[14:51] <DreamLnr> i want to modify the foile
[14:51] <Woet> histo: that's the only thing I can remember
[14:51] <DreamLnr> add some code to it
[14:51] <Gnea> DreamLnr: vi file.php
[14:51] <harry1989> can someone help me with my problems please? 1: pressing any number on numpad restarts XServer, 2: when restarting i get "The greeter application appears to be crashing."
[14:52] <DreamLnr> file, not foile
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: then open it with nano
[14:52] <Jafet> Woet, as a very last resort, you could reinstall bits of Gnome...
[14:52] <Cabs> root0: i'm at the software sources dialogue box i don't see what you refered to, backports and such under which tab is it suposed to be?
[14:52] <DreamLnr> i said from the outside :)
[14:52] <Gnea> DreamLnr: ask in #php :)
[14:52] <DreamLnr> mm:)
[14:53] <root0> Cabs, no. i'm not sure. i use GNOME and i don't know what you see.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: you'll need to port forward if you are behind a router, otherwise the connection will simply be dropped
[14:53] <Jafet> harry1989, 1: might be a borked keyboard config linking all your numpad keys to the restart X function 2: variety of poorly-understood and poorly-addressed causes; see if reinstall gdm works
[14:53] <Hew> How can I find which process is using /dev/ttyS0 (serial port) so that I can kill it?
[14:53] <harry1989> :S eeek
[14:53] <Jafet> harry1989, you are using Gnome, I presume.
[14:53] <harry1989> lol
[14:53] <Cabs> ActionParnip: what do i do after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is done?
[14:53] <harry1989> yup
[14:53] <Gnea> Hew: lsof | grep ttyS0
[14:53] <harry1989> problem appeared a few days after installing compiz
[14:54] <harry1989> which now i come to think of it...may be due to a theme i loaded
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: if its installed a new kernel you'll ned to reboot
[14:54] <naughtykid001> I'm trying to setup the bandluxe 3G modem using Hardy, with networkadmin however the setting keep reset for the point to point connection which I try to modify
[14:54] <nbjayme> hello all. i was trying to compile using make and got this error:  make: c++: Command not found
[14:54] <nbjayme> make: *** [build] Error 127
[14:54] <naughtykid001> any idea about this?
[14:54] <Jafet> Fair few bug reports about compiz and gdm in the past, I think.
[14:54] <nbjayme> what package should I download?
[14:54] <harry1989> and oh the irony of it...its a vista theme :P
[14:55] <Jafet> nbjayme, build-essential I think
[14:55] <Woet> Jafet: how?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> nbjayme: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[14:55] <Hew> Gnea: hmm, no output, but screen says "device or resource busy"
[14:55] <nbjayme> thanks all. :-)
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> nbjayme: sudo apt-get install c++
[14:55] <Cabs> ActionParsnip: how will i know if it's installed a new kernel?
[14:55] <richiefrich> Cabs: it will tell you
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: well if you scroll your terminal up it will say
[14:56] <Jafet> Cabs, well you could check the files in /boot, or your package manager.
[14:56] <richiefrich> or you can check
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: you shouldve read the screen to see what was installed
[14:56] <harry1989> so how would i fix the "borked keyboard config"? :s
[14:56] <Jafet> Woet, apt-get reinstall blah
[14:56] <Jafet> harry1989, probably a question for the forums.
[14:57] <Jafet> Woet, where blah is check Synaptic for some likely names.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Jafet: sudo apt-get --reinstall install blah
[14:57] <Jafet> ActionParsnip, er yes.
[14:58] <richiefrich> harry1989: i would check xorg.conf
[14:58] <richiefrich> harry1989: likely its wrong there
[14:58] <harry1989> checking that now richiefrich :D
[14:58] <richiefrich> then check the log
[14:58]  * ActionParsnip agrees with richiefrich
[14:58] <xukun> I want to start kvm voor a guest system I get this message on console: can't add tap0 to bridge eth0: Operation not supported. I had bridged tap0 to eth0 before but know its bridged to eth1 but if that is the problem how to I change it?
[14:59] <richiefrich> harry1989: cause there is no actually config for the keyboard
[14:59] <xbxb> Can someone recommend a GOOD TV card that works well with Ubuntu?
[14:59] <richiefrich> xbxb: a huppaguge
[14:59] <harry1989> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41247/
[14:59] <harry1989> thats the keyboard section
[14:59] <richiefrich> or however you spell it
[14:59] <harry1989> and >.< @ me using the numpad thru vnc to the ubuntu computer
[14:59]  * harry1989 goes upstairs to relogin
[15:00] <xbxb> richiefrich: Okay, and do you know a good software for it? So that I can see TV, record programs, etc
[15:00] <javb> does anyone here knows a BETTER ftp client than gFTP ?
[15:00] <jmichelse1> Is there a way to manually program the media keys on  a logitech keyboard to still work? xubuntu 8.04
[15:00] <farion> hi, I have a santa rosa notebook - but after suspend sound (hda intel) is not working - seems its a bug - does someone know a solution?
[15:00] <joaopinto> javb, Filezilla ?
[15:01] <richiefrich> harry1989: so where id your Option  "CoreKeyboard"
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> javb: ftp in terminal :D
[15:01] <fadlee> hmm
[15:01] <richiefrich> xbxb: there are a few
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | javb
[15:02] <richiefrich> xbxb: idk what you want and what you use as in WM
[15:02] <richiefrich> kdetv
[15:02] <richiefrich> xtv
[15:02] <richiefrich> xdtv
[15:02] <xbxb> richiefrich: compiz
[15:02] <richiefrich> xbxb: thats not a wm
[15:02] <richiefrich> thats a layer
[15:03] <richiefrich> you use compiz with?
[15:03] <harry1989> richiefrich: so add the corekeyboard option?
[15:03] <Cabs> ActionParsnip: is there a possibility the upgrade won't work and hose down my system and so it would be convenient for me to burn a copy of intrepid ibex image?
[15:03] <xbxb> richiefrich: I installed it on top of gnome, but I use it as a standalone manager
[15:03] <Vialas> hi everyone
[15:03] <Jafet> Perhaps xbxb meant metacity.
[15:03] <bazhang> Cabs, no.
[15:03] <richiefrich> Jafet: ty
[15:03] <Cabs> ok brb
[15:03] <Vialas> im tring to install ubuntu, this is second time ive tired
[15:03] <frybye> hi - as I connected a usb-sb-card reader I get a fault report that mount-point /media/disk does not exist.."" - what should i do exactly to correct this?
[15:03] <richiefrich> xbxb: so gnome
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: doubt it, you may have to reinstall some drivers after the upgrade
[15:03] <Vialas> this time, i came to a werid terminal "initramfs"
[15:03] <bazhang> Cabs, #ubuntu+1 is for intrepid
[15:03] <Vialas> ??
[15:03] <richiefrich> then kdetv isnt what you want
[15:04] <bazhang> Vialas, with wubi?
[15:04] <Vialas> Ubuntu desktop
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: sudo fdisk -l
[15:04] <Vialas> trying to install it bazhang
[15:04] <bazhang> Vialas, from inside windows?
[15:04] <Vialas> i dont know what went wrong :S
[15:04] <Vialas> no, i had windows on it
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then mount the device
[15:04] <Vialas> but i want to kill windows
[15:04] <Vialas> then have just ubuntu
[15:05] <richiefrich> xbxb: http://rafb.net/p/QQEPi045.html thats a list of all tv apps
[15:05] <bazhang> Vialas, you get the busybox prompt?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !tv
[15:05] <Vialas> busybox
[15:05] <Vialas> yes thats the one
[15:05] <Vialas> busybox v1.1.3
[15:05] <xbxb> richiefrich: ty, ActionParsnip: ty
[15:05] <bazhang> Vialas, did you md5 the iso
[15:05] <ircbin> hi! where can I download the latest daily-build image of the intrepid release?
[15:05] <Vialas> hu?
[15:05] <bazhang> !md5 | Vialas
[15:06] <Vialas> ive used this cd before it install
[15:06] <bazhang> !ibex | ircbin
[15:06] <Vialas> never gave me a problem
[15:06] <Vialas> thats teh werid thing
[15:06] <richiefrich> harry1989: http://rafb.net/p/KaFvr966.html thats two i use they both work
[15:06] <ircbin> bazhang, OK; I know... but where can I download it?
[15:06] <Cabs> ActionParsnip: just rebooted
[15:06] <bazhang> ircbin, ask in that channel
[15:06] <Cabs> now what do i do?
[15:06] <richiefrich> harry1989: and idk what kinda keyboard it is you never said
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: run uname -a
[15:07] <harry1989> lol i cant identify it
[15:07] <harry1989> brb switiching comps
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: what you got
[15:07] <richiefrich> ActionParsnip: that wont tell him
[15:07] <ircbin> ok, tnks
[15:07] <richiefrich> ActionParsnip: he needs to reboot 1st
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> richiefrich: itll tell him what kernel he's on
[15:07] <richiefrich> ActionParsnip: if a new one was installed
[15:07] <mike3> Hi guys I accidently deleted /etc/apache2 and I need to recreate all the files that were in there
[15:07] <Cabs> ActionParsnip,  v
[15:07] <richiefrich> ActionParsnip: sure what hes on
[15:07] <mike3> How can I install all that again?
[15:07] <Cabs> Linux funhouse 2.6.24-19-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Aug 21 02:08:03 UTC 2008 i686GNU/Linux
[15:08] <richiefrich> wow old
[15:08] <recon69> Vialas: well, possible that the CD got scratched or the CD drive on the computer you installing on not as good and is giving errors
[15:08] <richiefrich> Linux roxie <IP_ADDRESS>eee #2 PREEMPT Sat Aug 23 09:21:13 CDT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 900MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> mike3: sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2
[15:09] <legend2440> ircbin: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:09] <Cabs> ActionParsnip, so it didn't upgrade to the new kernel?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: looks like not
[15:09] <Cabs> the cd is still not mounting
[15:09] <Cabs> how do i go about doing that
[15:09] <richiefrich> Cabs: you would need to reboot
[15:09] <ircbin> legend2440, OK; thanks!
[15:09] <Cabs> richiefrich, i just did
[15:09] <richiefrich> Cabs: why not build it yourself, it aint hard
[15:09] <richiefrich> Cabs: oh ok
[15:10] <Cabs> because in one hour i have to leave to work and in two days my friend has to do an exhibit and it's not my computer
[15:10]  * richiefrich is building a new kernel now
[15:10] <harry1989> richiefrich: Keyboard model SK-1789 which came with an imedia x821 computer
[15:10] <mike3> Hi guys I accidently deleted /etc/apache2 and I need to recreate all the files that were in there
[15:10] <harry1989> thats as much as i can identify
[15:10] <namaku> I have /media/loop (uid=root,gid=root,755). Everytime I try to mount iso image there with "sudo mount -o loop image.iso /media/loop" its permission changed to uid=400,gid=401,700. What happen?
[15:10] <Cabs> ActionParsnip, how do i get the new kernel?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> www.kernel.org
[15:10] <Plouj> shouldn't I be able to boot the Ubuntu installer from a USB stick if I copy the CD iso directly to /dev/sdb (USB stick) and set the BIOS to boot the USB stick as a CDROM?
[15:11] <bazhang> Cabs, that wont help
[15:11] <richiefrich> harry1989: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16823107123
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Cabs: or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:11] <richiefrich> harry1989: that
[15:11] <harry1989> yes that exact one