[00:08] <atari2600a> I know this is off-topic but the other channels are dead af.  Did anyone manage to actually *boot* the 21.04b1 pi image?
[00:16] <nyxyn> Is there a term for a fellow ubuntu user?
[00:21] <va7lnx> uuser?
[00:22] <nyxyn> Hello fellow uuser
[00:26] <Peng> sarnold: Since I just posted an emoticon before, thank you both, downloading the .ddeb from LP worked. :)
[00:27] <sarnold> Peng: yay :)
[00:29] <nyxyn> sarnold, is that your name or a reference to the actor Arnold Schwartznegger?
[00:29] <sarnold> nyxyn: my name
[00:29] <nyxyn> Nice
[00:29] <Peng> Maybe it's both!
[00:29] <nyxyn> Come with me if you want to use linux
[00:29] <nyxyn> aaargggghhh
[00:30] <sarnold> it's not a bootloadah
[00:30] <nyxyn> lol
[00:43] <VMGuy23> i dual-boot windows 10/Ubuntu 20.10 and i recently copied my disk to a bigger one. using Acronis, it said the Ubuntu partition had errors and had to do it sector by sector
[00:43] <VMGuy23> and now, grub is useless, wont boot windows and Ubuntu just refuses to start
[00:44] <VMGuy23> im stuck with windows and windows boot manager
[00:44] <VMGuy23> any help?
[01:53] <mozzarella> how can I see webp images with the gnome image viewer?
[01:55] <sarnold> mozzarella: try sudo apt install libwebp6 -- I don't know for sure that the image viewer will be able to find it or not, but it's easy to install it and try -- gnome may also require logging out and in again
[01:56] <mozzarella> sarnold: it's already installed and it's not working
[01:57] <sarnold> :(
[02:23] <sybariten> Oh hai
[02:23] <sybariten> Is there a software cdrom eject as per standard in a linux system?
[02:28] <sarnold> sybariten: yes, it's eject in the eject package
[02:31] <sybariten> sarnold:hmmm ok so eject was alread the newest version.
[02:32] <leaftype> mmm, this salsa con queso is delicious
[02:32] <sybariten> i'm ejecting a... device, maybe? like /dev/sr0 . And perhaps only as sudo ?
[02:32] <leaftype> oh sorry, wrong channel
[02:33] <sybariten> sarnold:worked like a charm, thanks
[02:34] <edlou> im watching all of you
[02:41] <sybariten> ok
[04:16] <sybariten> hm, anyone wanna try and install the "enhanced cp" command gcp from repos? I get serious errors wehen trying to use it
[06:54] <anonymou25676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a bug that can be fixed on  tcp or udp port 69? And if there is a known problem with the terminal for external reading and entering and how to fix that in a simple way?
[06:57] <anonymous5676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a problem with udp or tcp port 69 and if there is a known problem with the terminal for external reading and entering and how to fix that?
[07:10] <anonymous5676> Hey! Does anyone know if there is a bug in iptables or ubuntu that allows traffic to tcp/udp port 69 from external computers? Is there a way to secure the terminal from external exploits in an easy way?
[07:11] <guiverc> you've asked that 3 times anonymous5676; please be patient
[07:11] <anonymous5676> sorry irrsi bugged me and i switched to web client instead :)
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: while you wait, please search related existing bugs here; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables
[07:12] <anonymous5676> thx
[07:22] <anonymous5676> Hmmm! Correcting myself... Idon't wan to have an exploit to allow traffic but to dissalow traffic to terminal from external sources... Might be a romour that i have been heard of but it's supposed to be at port 69
[07:31] <anonymous5676> tryed steve gibbons grc.com shieldsUP and it repored it a stealthed but i'm still unsure about this. I have been hearing about it from now and the for a cuple of years if i'm not remembering wrong. Might be a port that hackers use to exploit linux computers. I think the port is used for tftp
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: i think your issues are more for ##networking then an ubuntu issue?
[07:32] <anonymous5676> ok thx
[07:49] <anonymous5676> vpn should be sufficiant right?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> anonymous5676: did you not agree your issue is more a ##networking problem?
[07:55] <latk> I have a line in /etc/fstab to mount a disk to /data
[07:56] <latk> Mostly this works, but recently something else appears to be mounted to /data, and I can't work out what stupid thing I have done to cause this.
[07:56] <latk> How can I work out what I have done?
[08:12] <overclucker> latk: you could switch to mounting by UUID if you are having issues with /dev/sda,b,c,.. getting mixed up
[08:25] <latk> overclucker: It isn't that I have also mounted something else in fstab -- that line works -- it is more that something else (maybe docker?) has overriden the mount.
[08:25] <latk> and I can't work out what
[09:12] <EriC^^> latk: you can run "mount" command in the terminal to see how it's mounted, what options etc maybe it shows something useful
[09:43] <irgendwer4711> hi, does Chrome work well today? I have crashes for days...
[09:48] <michele|> I want to run tar JcfP /tmp/foo.tar.xz /etc/ /data - the only problem is that /data may not exist. in that case, tar exits with: /data: Cannot stat: No such file or directory. How do I tell tar to archive every directory I pass as an argument and ignore the ones that do not exist? tar --ignore-failed-read might be a good candidate, but I fear it
[09:48] <michele|> might hide I/O problems. What do you think?
[10:12] <etronik> happy Easter everyone
[10:12] <etronik> I'm upgrading darktable on my Ubuntu 20.04 but still shows 2.4.4 as the latest (3.4.1 is the actual latest), even after following instructions at  https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=graphics:darktable&package=darktable
[10:16] <arther181> I have extracked initrd using unmkinitramfs but unable to pack it again. Can anyone please help me how to pack it? Ubuntu 20.04.
[10:26] <Maik> !latest
[10:26] <Maik> etronik: ^
[10:27] <Maik> installing software from outside the repo's isn't really supported and at own risk
[10:27] <etronik> Maik, so how do I override the main repositories to account for the latest version ?
[10:30] <Maik> i don't know, but why do you actually need the newest release of it?
[10:30] <cbreak> you can always install stuff on the side, outside the package manager
[10:30] <cbreak> just don't use the normal locations for it
[10:31] <etronik> Maik, why new release is because the current one is dreadfully old ! and cbreak don't want to install stuff on the side to benefit from updates
[10:31] <etronik> I think you can understand that it's my judgement call no ?
[10:32] <etronik> it's not like I'm installing stuff willy nilly !
[10:32] <cbreak> 3.4.1-1build1 will be in 21.04
[10:32] <etronik> is 21.04 LTS ?
[10:32] <cbreak> no
[10:32] <Maik> no
[10:33] <cbreak> sounds like you don't want lts
[10:33] <cbreak> you want features
[10:33] <etronik> nop, I just don't want to update releases every now and then
[10:33] <cbreak> -> features
[10:33] <cbreak> updating releases is what gives you new feature releases
[10:33] <etronik> I'm having difficulty undrstanding your resistance :-)
[10:34] <cbreak> you get to decide :)
[10:34] <cbreak> basically, it's your choice:
[10:34] <cbreak> do you want new feature releases? Then upgrade
[10:34] <cbreak> or not? Then stay with an LTS, which is intended to NOT give you new feature releases
[10:34] <Maik> or use Snap versions of the software you use
[10:34] <cbreak> but instead to keep everything as stable as possible
[10:34] <etronik> so you're saying you don't have ANY outside repos ?
[10:34] <cbreak> I'm not using LTS
[10:35] <cbreak> and when I want stuff that's not in the repos, I install it on the side
[10:35] <Maik> etronik: if you want the latest and greatest go rolling release :)
[10:36] <Maik> ubuntu as said, aims for stability
[10:36] <etronik> but I dont want the latest and greatest! I carefully choose what stuff I want - for this particular purpose I want the latest release - it's a photo management app - low risk
[10:36] <Maik> have a look at the Snap version then
[10:37] <cbreak> normal ubuntu is not that modular
[10:38] <etronik> feels like you're discussing a purist form of usage, and I want to understand why after following instructions, something that was supposed to work is failing...
[10:38] <Maik> then why did they include snap store from 20.04 onward....
[10:40] <cbreak> etronik: who knows
[10:40] <etronik> how do I know what version of darktable is on the snapstore ?
[10:40] <cbreak> you're the one that has the ability to check symptoms
[10:40] <cbreak> you're the on that can read the output of apt update
[10:41] <Maik> etronik: open ubuntu software and search or look here https://snapcraft.io/
[10:41] <cbreak> it should tell you things
[10:41] <etronik> cbreak, of course I can, I was asking for help, then depending of the questions, I would provide the requested symptom - but all I got was a evagelization
[10:42] <etronik> Maik, it doesn't show version... I searched for darkatbel
[10:42] <etronik> darktable
[10:42] <cbreak> etronik: apt update should tell you which sources it reads from
[10:42] <cbreak> does it read the source you gave it?
[10:42] <Maik> etronik: https://snapcraft.io/darktable
[10:43] <etronik> ahh in little corner it says latest 3.2.1 - woefully outdated also
[10:44] <Maik> i for one do not support install software from outside the repo's, so i won't be able to assist further
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:16] <frad> Im comparing how much cpu x265 and x264 videos consume to be played. I found that x265 files need less cpu than x264, even if x265 files are longer than the x264. But what I don't understand is why the notebook's fan spins faster when I play the x264. Shouldn
[13:16] <frad> t it be the other way round?
[13:17] <cbreak> frad: ?
[13:17] <cbreak> fan speed is influenced by temperature, which is related to power consumption
[13:18] <cbreak> cpu usage is related to power consumption too
[13:18] <cbreak> using a CPU uses more power than idling
[13:19] <cbreak> how much cpu is used to decode a movie depends on many factors, such as how optimized the decoder is, the algorithm used for encoding, the data rate, ...
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> not a topic for #ubuntu support frad cbreak ?
[13:24] <frad> lotuspsychje, I cannot decipher your message
[13:24] <frad> oh
[13:25] <noor2> how do i list all the running processes on the system
[13:26] <ztuzgg> Try ps -acx
[13:27] <ztuzgg> or ps -aux
[13:27] <frad> thx cbreak
[13:27] <noor2> thanks
[13:38] <thiras> folk tr.archive.ubuntu.com has resolving issue
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> thiras: are you behind a firewall or router?
[13:41] <Ravage> does not resolve on all major dns servers
[13:42] <Ravage> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1328581/why-is-tr-archive-ubuntu-com-down
[13:43] <Ravage> use http://mirror.sh.com.tr/ubuntu/ for now
[13:52] <Mohnish> Hey everyone, I have a problem. I have a laptop with windows 7 and ubuntu studio 16.10 installed on it. I wish to install ubuntu 20.04 LTS on it in place of 16.10, since there is no way to upgrade it from the system itself, I'm gonna install ubuntu 20.04 from a bootable usb drive. I wanted to know if the automated installer would be able to detect the windows installation and 16.10 installation and
[13:52] <Mohnish> install in place of 16.10 leaving windows 7 untouched
[13:53] <Mohnish> or, if i have to go with the custom installation, what would be the process?
[13:59] <Mohnish> basically, I want to install 20.04 in place of 16.10 leaving the windows 7 installation untouched
[14:03] <Ravage> the installer should detect it. if you choose a manual partition layout you can select which partitions will be touch. a backup is recommended anyway of course
[14:03] <Mohnish> sorry, had some network interruptions
[14:04] <Ravage> it may be even easier for the installer to remove the ubuntu partitions from windows so it detects empty space to install to
[14:04] <leftyfb> Mohnish: I would wipe the ubuntu 16.01 partition(s) and install 20.04 in it's place. It should leave Windows untouched if done properly
[14:04] <Mohnish> oh, okay
[14:05] <Mohnish> leftyfb: hmm, so what should I be careful about while doing this?
[14:05] <leftyfb> Mohnish: just make sure you can restore from backup in case anything goes wrong
[14:05] <Mohnish> I guess what I can do is, delete the ubuntu 16.10 partitions and make it seem like unallocated space, and then install 20.04?
[14:06] <leftyfb> Mohnish: that said, you do understand Windows 7 became EOL well over a year ago. 5 years after Windows 10 was released. You really shouldn't be running that anymore.
[14:06] <Mohnish> leftyfb: yeah, I understand, but its not my laptop, it's my professor's :D
[14:07] <leftyfb> Mohnish: even worse
[14:07] <leftyfb> Mohnish: professors should have the ability to upgrade to Windows 10 for free
[14:07] <Mohnish> lol why?
[14:07] <Mohnish> oh
[14:07] <Ravage> what lefty said. i manged to activate the paid windows 7 updates in a VM though. just to see if it can be done. my VM has updates from this month now
[14:07] <Mohnish> Ravage: oh
[14:08] <Ravage> but yeah.. you should really upgrade to windows 10
[14:08] <leftyfb> Mohnish: either way, good luck with the Ubuntu 20.04 install
[14:09] <Mohnish> So, deleting the 16.10 partitions, then installing 20.04 should work, right?
[14:09] <Ravage> i havent done it in a while. but the ubuntu installer usally detects any existing windows installation
[14:09] <Ravage> it should offer you to install on the free space
[14:10] <Mohnish> hmm, yeah
[14:10] <Ravage> it will show you what changes it will do to your partitions. just make sure it keeps windows untouched
[14:10] <Mohnish> should I try all this in a vm first and then on the machine later?
[14:11] <tieinv> backup first
[14:11] <Ravage> yep. backup
[14:11] <Ravage> use clonezilla or any other backup tool
[14:11] <Mohnish> hmm
[14:12] <Ravage> if it is not even your computer better be safe than sorry
[14:12] <Mohnish> yeah
[14:12] <Mohnish> I'll backup first
[14:12] <Ravage> clonezilla can backup to a USB drive or even on a network share
[14:12] <tieinv> backup should be restorable
[14:13] <Mohnish> the problem is that the laptop's hard drive is 1tb in size, and I don't have a storage medium of that large size
[14:16] <EriC^^> Mohnish: from the installer if you do manual partitioning you should be good, though if you delete the ubuntu partition/choose to format it the home dir will be removed, does he not care about his files?
[14:17] <leftyfb> Mohnish: at least backup the user directory from the Windows partition. Having no backup is begging for data loss
[14:18] <Mohnish> he barely has any files in ubuntu 16.10, so backing up those would be easy, most of his stuff is on his windows installation
[14:18] <Mohnish> yeah, I'll have to find a way to backup before I make a move
[14:44] <fbiagent_> hello ubuntu friends, I am struggling to get the software update notification popup only to check on saturdays (or friday-sunday). Is there a way to do this?
[15:26] <johny181_> Hello Everyone! Can anyone please tell me how can I edit initrd in Ubuntu 20.04?
[15:37] <amazoniantoad> My mouse suddenly stopped being able to scroll I'm on Ubuntu 20.04.1 can anyone help me resolve this issue?
[15:41] <nuala> fbiagent: put it into crontab?  notify-send 'updates' 'hej check your updates'
[15:42] <nyxyn> I found a bug in application gnome-tweaks. Where can I report this?
[15:43] <nuala> nyxyn: 'burger menu' > about tweaks > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Tweaks
[15:44] <cariveri> Hi. I copied a lot of data with the file manager from one usb drive to another. but the progress display stalled. I dont know whether its still going or stoppped complete and how I would resume. thanks for help with that ;)
[15:44] <nyxyn> Thanks nuala
[15:44] <nuala> ^^7
[15:46] <nuala> cariveri: i kinda try to cancel transfer in file manager, maybe wait, if nothing helps trying umounting via terminal; generally i delete whatever was partyly copied and copy it via cp -v
[15:47] <nyxyn> Seems people have been reporting this issue for 9 months
[15:51] <nuala> maybe link the issue here, or give it ... a relike or something if you have an account ^^;
[15:51] <tomreyn> johny181_: what are you trying to change?
[15:53] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: replace batteries if wireless, try winding the wire if wired. reseat connector in different usb port. install the pending ubuntu upgrades. check system logs for usb / mouse related errors.
[15:54] <nyxyn> When you turn off the animations in gnome-tweak the UI flicker and you can no longer access the general tab: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-tweaks/-/issues/295
[15:55] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, it's wired. Tried reseating in different usb port and it continued. installed upgrades. it still continues. How do I check system logs for usb / mouse related errors?
[15:56] <tomreyn> nyxyn: gnome-tweaks 3.34.1 (which upstream requests to test) is not in any ubuntu release, yet. you can file a bug against ubuntu in hopes to see a backported fix.
[15:56] <tomreyn> !bug | nyxyn
[15:58] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: journalctl is the CLI to access system logs (ther eis also a GUI application called "Logs"). All the logs from the latest boot onwards can be accessed with   journalctl -b   (quit the viewer by pressing 'q'), the latest logs can be viewed by   journalctl -f    (it will print more logs as any new ones are added, press ctlr-c to quit)
[16:00] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, event21 - Mad Catz Mad Catz R.A.T. Pro X: SYN_DROPPED event - some input events have been lost.
[16:00] <amazoniantoad> This looks bad
[16:01] <amazoniantoad> lol
[16:01] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: lsusb   lists connected USB devices, including their [vendorid:deviceid] - which can help you search the web for issues with this specific device (probably not useful if the device used to work with the same kernel version).
[16:01] <magic_ninja> how can I save stdout output to a text and display in console? For instance ping localhost > output.txt doesn't show the output in terminal. Can I do both?
[16:02] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: get the [vendorid:deviceid] and do a web search with that and  "SYN_DROPPED"
[16:02] <amazoniantoad> magic_ninja, ping <IP_ADDRESS> > output.txt
[16:03] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, thanks
[16:03] <magic_ninja> amazoniantoad, that will not print the output in terminal also
[16:03] <atal> tomreyn I have to run a script before mounting the real rootfs. The script will change a variable in /boot/filename. If you any suggestions, please let me know.
[16:03] <nuala> magic_ninja: use `cat output.txt`  or `less some_long_file.txt` (quit less with q)
[16:04] <amazoniantoad> magic_ninja, correct it saves it to a file. You want it to both print to terminal and save to a file?
[16:04] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: echo foo | tee /tmp/bar
[16:04] <nuala> ^ !+1
[16:05] <magic_ninja> tomreyn, thank you. I guess it is just like a tee pipe fitting then
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> nyxyn: before filing your bug, please see if its not a dupe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-tweaks/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[16:07] <tomreyn> atal: you can manually unpack the initramfs (unmkinitramfs), then add your file / modify things as needed, and repack it (mkinitramfs). but the better approach is probably to add a hook for update-initramfs
[16:08] <tomreyn> magic_ninja: i'm not a native english speaker, but i assume that's a joke. :)
[16:09] <magic_ninja> tomreyn, I see. This is a tee pipe fitting: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32408767049.html
[16:10] <tomreyn> oh, i was wondering what the name was based on.
[16:12] <cariveri> nuala: next time ill use rsync. but it goes on onw.
[16:13] <atal> tomreyn: Thank you so much! Can you please refer any article for add a hook in update-initramfs.
[16:17] <tomreyn> atal: are you familiar with man pages? if so, see initramfs-tools(8), if not:
[16:17] <tomreyn> !man | atal
[16:17] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html
[16:18] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html#hook%20scripts rather
[16:18] <tomreyn> but apparently this is missing in later releases, the mechanism must have been replaced
[16:20] <atal> tomreyn: yes I'm familiar with man pages.
[16:20] <atal> Thank you Guys
[16:21] <atal> You are super helpful.
[16:46] <nuala> cariveri: yes rsync would be even better i guess.
[17:05] <kiryin> Hey, I'm having a bit of a problem with the ibus input method that gnome uses by default. I'm running up-to-date 20.04, using the wayland gnome session, and I can't use ibus in qt5 applications. I'm aware of the wayland situation with qt5 on gnome but unfortunately forcing it with QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland doesn't make a difference, so I don't think it's caused by xwayland. Anyone here have any hints?
[17:28] <magic_ninja> kinda wondering how I should handle this upgrade. I have liquorix kernel installed (only because I need 5.11 for the drivers). Now, with 21.04, the 5.11 kernel will be there, so I no longer need that kernel. But my drivers depend on it. Will the system just install kernel 5.11 from the repos and then I can boot into that kernel and remove the liquorix one?
[17:32] <Febass> How do I get my xbox controller working?
[17:33] <Febass> I have been trying for 3 days to get this to work
[17:33] <Febass> And it's not working for some reason
[17:33] <Febass> I have ubuntu-xboxdrv installed
[17:33] <Febass> And it shows up on my device list with jstest-gtk
[17:33] <Febass> I mean
[17:33] <Febass> With lsusb
[17:33] <Febass> It DOESN'T show up with jstest-gtk
[17:34] <Febass> Can some one please help me this is increadibly frustraiting I just want to play my videogames that I just got working on wine
[17:35] <Febass> Hello?
[17:40] <magic_ninja> Febass, you gotta just hang out a while, and someone will answer when they see it. You new to IRC?
[17:40] <unamear> you'll be lucky if you get one message every hour
[17:41] <magic_ninja> It's more of a place where you throw out your question, and if someone has an idea, they will help.
[17:42] <Febass> I know, I am just frustrated
[17:42] <Febass> Like I have limmited free time and I just want to play games
[17:42] <Febass> I work 7 days this week
[17:43] <magic_ninja> Febass, try out this software: https://gitlab.com/evtest-qt/evtest-qt
[17:43] <magic_ninja> The website says something about their interface being out of date as of 2 years ago and says you might want to try that software out.
[17:47] <goodTimesImmort> Are xubuntu questions ok in this room?
[17:48] <Febass> magic_ninja: I am getting errors
[17:51] <magic_ninja> Febass, copy the errors, and post them here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/  . Then, share URL of that post with us. Don't post a bunch of terminal output in the channel, as it will be flagged as spam.
[17:51] <rfm> goodTimesImmort, yes, xubuntu is an official flavor
[17:52] <nuala> Febass: I am sure someone has used xbox (one, 360 420?) controlle rbefore. also what ubuntu version and ubuntu-xboxdrv version?
[17:52] <nuala> (prolly best putting that also in the paste ^^)
[17:54] <Febass> magic_ninja: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Sg5GWCDY3Y/
[17:55] <Febass> nuala: The newest version
[18:02] <magic_ninja> Febass, it needs qt4, but I'm not familiar enough with the process to guide you through that. I'm not even sure if you can install multiple versions side-by-side.
[18:06] <Febass> argh
[18:06] <Febass> Well, thanks for your help anyways magic_ninja
[18:09] <jjbuggle> Im trying to use 2 programs at once, and I want a keyboard shortcut to apply to the program not select.  Possible?  I'm trying to type up a transcription and I would like to control the audio player without having to mouse over to it and highlight it
[18:27] <tomreyn> jjbuggle: you can assign keybindings to xdotool
[18:39] <jjbuggle> tomreyn: oh isee, so setup some custom commands to target a window
[18:40] <tomreyn> right
[18:44] <koffeinfriedhof> Febass: Don't know anything about xbox-controls but for Qt5 you need to 'apt install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools clang-11'
[19:23] <sybariten> Hey, anyone wanna try and install the "enhanced cp" command "gcp" from repos? I get serious errors wehen trying to use it and i don't know if maybe i'¨m doing something wrong
[19:23] <sybariten> as in, i get python errors
[19:35] <holgersson> sybariten: Hi, please provide a full error message. Python errors (traces) are typically longer than 3 lines, so I recommend to use a nopaste service, e.g. https://psty.io
[19:35] <holgersson> sybariten: You could run (inside a terminal emulator) 'gcp &> /tmp/gcp-output' to redirect everything (stdout and stderr) into the file /tmp/gcp-output and paste the contents afterwards.
[19:42] <sybariten> holgersson: okaj kommer
[19:43] <Peng> sarnold: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddeb-retriever/+bug/1922451 just in case it might be useful.
[19:50] <sybariten> holgersson: seriously though, why is _every_ one on IRC recommending a different paste service?
[19:50] <sybariten> here's a problem i'm getting running the "improved" cp command gcp :  https://pastebin.com/5mxL7XbR
[19:51] <holgersson> sybariten: It's just way better to use.
[19:51] <sybariten> it has the same syntax as cp, but with some extra snazzy stuff added
[19:52] <holgersson> sybariten: ah, why a *different*? They are just tools like a screwdriver. Take the one you know and that's currently not broken ;-)
[19:53] <holgersson> sybariten: I'm mostly a gentoo user and "we" recommend that py-thing and I know it's working, so I recommended it. Personally I'm using filebin on paste.xinu.at, but you need an account there, so I can't openly recommend it :]
[19:54] <sybariten> holgersson:yeah, wanted something with a bit more output. This one can actually change characters on the destination drive if there seems to be charset problems
[19:54] <sybariten> holgersson:ah, forget it, i misunderstood
[19:55] <sybariten> anyhow, the gcp command seems broken at my place. Installed with sudo apt-get install gcp
[19:55] <leftyfb> sybariten: you should file a bug with gcp
[19:55] <leftyfb> !bug | sybariten
[19:56] <holgersson> sybariten: yep, as leftyfb says, this is a bug.
[19:56] <leftyfb> looks like it's been a bug for almost 10 years https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678477
[19:56] <holgersson> I guess you could redirect the stderr output to dev-null as a workaround
[19:57] <sybariten> holgersson:uh dang you're right it did actually make the copy
[19:57] <leftyfb> oh wait, that's virt-manager
[19:58] <sybariten> leftyfb:is this considered a bug "in ubuntu"? even though i installed a package?
[19:58] <leftyfb> sybariten: yes
[19:59] <holgersson> sybariten: did you install it out of the official repos?
[19:59] <holgersson> e.g. with "apt install gcp"
[20:02] <sybariten> holgersson: uhhhyeeeah, i cant rememeber adding any repo or antyhign no. I mean you could prolly just try it yourself, it's 150 k or so
[20:05] <holgersson> sybariten: I'm not on Ubuntu right now, but gcp 0.2.1 on gentoo runs fine :-P
[20:05] <holgersson> sybariten: What's your version on Ubuntu? "gcp --version | head -n1" and no need for a paste ;-)
[20:08] <sybariten> holgersson: in that case this may be because i'm running a rather special setup, ubuntu 20 but live (but persistent)
[20:13] <holgersson> sybariten: I wrote that it works on *gentoo* - that's a completly different linux distribution
[20:13] <holgersson> I'm just curious if it's maybe just due to an old version inside ubuntu
[20:17] <sybariten> holgersson: i can try it on another machine
[20:18] <Batoeh> Hello I recently rebooted my computer and I somehow broke xorg. I am running 20.10 using 5.8.0-48-lowlatency kernel. Nvidia version 390.141. I am in tmux and have access to lynx but I am sorry I forget how to copy and paste here.
[20:25] <holgersson> sybariten: I can confirm your bug inside a ubuntu 20.10 VM. Please file a bug report.
[20:27] <cbreak> is there already an exact release day, hour and minute for 21.04? :)
[20:30] <Batoeh> brb trying something real quick
[20:32] <sybariten> holgersson: ha! similar glib error on a different machine, a Ubuntu server v20 . So its prolly a real bug then
[20:32] <sybariten> ok will look into how bugs are filed
[20:33] <holgersson> cbreak: ymmd!
[20:34] <holgersson> cbreak: but not to forget about the second!
[20:34] <Bashing-om> !bug | sybariten
[20:34] <sybariten> next question ....  the automounting in ubuntu, is that mechanism a complicated story?
[20:35] <sybariten> heres what i do. 1.) i boot up a live Ubuntu OS, I am then the user xubuntu  2.) i set up a new user jake and set up ssh access to that 3.) i mount some disks under the jake user, to /mnt/ 4. i insert a cdrom. But that cd now gets mounted "by" xubuntu user i guess, under /media .... so i guess i need to sudo to do certain copy things
[20:35] <sybariten> would it be possible to "move" the automount behaviour from user xubuntu to user jake, for a cdrom, and also have it mount to /mnt/ instead ?
[22:14] <HighADconsultant> Hi!
[22:14] <HighADconsultant> need help on how to properly create cronjobs
[22:27] <MrBurns> https://crontab.guru/ is a handy tool
[22:32] <tomreyn> !details | HighADconsultant
[23:51] <courrier> Hey! My Xorg does not show up with 20.04 kernel 5.8 but it works fine with 5.4. I can't find any clue in /var/log/Xorg.* and the regular nomodeset noapic noacpi nospplash irqpoll does not help. Any idea? :(
[23:55] <Sven_vB> hi! on focal, how do I query which target systemd is currently trying to establish? (I assume multi-user.target)


[17:55] <myNickisNick> Mendel: could you tell us a little bit more like what version of Ubuntu you are using,  what you have tried ect ?  thankd
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[17:55] <Q-collective> Hey all. I just installed Gnome 3.10 and pretty quickly uninstalled it again via ppa-purge after I noticed it broke my Unity. I fixed everything again, but my wallpaper/desktop is still broken. Does anyone know how to get it back up?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Q-collective: you may have to remove the current gnome config, we have no way of knowing what changes the packages from the ppa have made
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Q-collective: also i suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[17:57] <myNickisNick> Q-collective: what ActionParsnip said maybe use d-conf app to look at each of the settings for the dbus and set back to normal
[17:58] <xlr20> Mendel: which file manager are you using?
[17:58] <Mendel> im using the newest version. when i click trust it keeps popoing up on my phone and this msg pops up on my computer. DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[17:58] <Mendel> i dont know
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: do you use the safe remove feature before unplugging the device
[17:59] <myNickisNick> seems like a mount issue Mendel
[17:59] <xlr20> Mendel
[17:59] <xlr20> try updating your system. maybe something is outdated
[17:59] <Mendel> yes its a mount issue and no whats that
[17:59] <epsilon1> hi. I use a Tenda R502 router. I enabled UPnP and also DMZ in the router but when I use http://www.canyouseeme.org/ to check if I have an open port, it always give me error. I didn't use a firewall (in Ubuntu 12.04LTS). Why?
[18:00] <Mendel> i sudo updates and its all up to sate
[18:00] <Mendel> date
[18:00] <xlr20> did you upgrade too?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: do you safe remove, or do you just unplug it?
[18:00] <Mendel> just unplug it
[18:00] <Mendel> what should i be updating exactly
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: why do you think operating system makers put that feature in?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: seriously. Think about it
[18:01] <xlr20> lol
[18:01] <Mendel> lol im just a noob
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: what? To all computers?
[18:01] <xlr20> Mendel: you should be careful with your devices. don't be lazy
[18:01] <Mendel> sure I would if I knew what he was talking about
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: plug it into your windows pc, or mac or whatever you use it in.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: then let it sync and do whatever iphone rubbish does, then in the bottom right you will see an icon
[18:02] <myNickisNick> Mendel: if you have any file managers open close them or just reboot,  then plug phone back in and see if it mounts
[18:02] <Mendel> it charges but i want to download my music from my iphone to ubuntu
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: you will see "safely remove hardware" and you can use that, then you can unplug
[18:03] <myNickisNick> I would also make sure that I have the most recent lib of libimobiledevice
[18:03] <icloud> can some one help me with ati xfire on 13.10? here are my lspci, dmesg and aticonfig output.
[18:03] <icloud> http://pastebin.com/qDZFQSUh
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: you unplugging it puts the storage in a bad state and causes issue, especially with proprietary stuff like iphones
[18:04] <Mendel> ok thanks
[18:04] <myNickisNick> and libusbmuxd1
[18:04] <pac1> I have a launcher which is not working right.  Is there a log file when you clik on an icon in unity?
[18:05] <myNickisNick> pac1 yeah there are logs und /var/log but  one can also run unity from the terminal to debug unity --replace
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Mendel: never seen this: http://usbtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/safely-remove-hardware.jpg
[18:06] <epsilon1> hi. I use a Tenda R502 router. I enabled UPnP and also DMZ in the router but when I use http://www.canyouseeme.org/ to check if I have an open port, it always give me error. I didn't use a firewall (in Ubuntu 12.04LTS). Why?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: what is the error?
[18:07] <myNickisNick> pac1: you can also look at the logs of lightdm  compiz ect.  But what do you mean the icons are  failing ?
[18:07] <epsilon1> that site says my ports are closed
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: sounds like a router issue then.
[18:08] <epsilon1> this is the error: I could not see your service on 95.76.....    on port (80)
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: can you access it ok over LAN?
[18:09] <pac1> I created my own launcher for eclipse, but it won't start eclipse.
[18:09] <epsilon1> yes, I accesed my router
[18:09] <epsilon1> I enabled UPnP
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: then how if this an ubuntu issue. The issue is in the router config.
[18:11] <epsilon1> ActionParsnip: I don't know. I only enabled UPnP and also DMZ host. I saved, I restarted router, modem and computer. But it didn't work
[18:11] <glitsj16> pac1: if you use the command to start eclipse you've put in the .desktop file (Exec=...) from terminal, does it work? does it give any errors?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: can you access the service over LAN?
[18:12] <pac1> yes.  no errors when starting from bash.
[18:12] <trijntje> pac1: keep in mind that you need to specify the full path in the .desktop file, not relative to home
[18:12] <epsilon1> the router? Yes.
[18:13] <glitsj16> pac1: does the .desktop file have execute permissions?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> epsilon1: then its a router issue, logically. I'd ask in ##networking
[18:13] <epsilon1> ah, ok. Thanks.
[18:15] <ham1>  /j #php
[18:15] <gdeeble> So I've read on server fault about using DD to back up my drive. My question is, if it's a software raid 1, will this pose any issues?
[18:15] <pac1> glitsj16, no but none of the others do either.
[18:16] <pac1> trijntje, full path is included.
[18:16] <bekks> gdeeble: you would have to do an offline backup, for consistency of the backup.
[18:16] <pac1> debugging unity helped.
[18:16] <gdeeble> bekks So live CD and do my back up and I should be fine, right?
[18:17] <bekks> gdeeble: yeah
[18:18] <gdeeble> bekks Thank you.
[18:19] <Moxicution> uname -a
[18:19] <pac1> my mistake: in the desktop, I had two execs one with the full path, the second without.  It was failing on the second.
[18:20] <pac1> thanks trintje and glitsj16
[18:20] <glitsj16> pac1: good catch, yw
[18:20] <pac1> myNickisNick, where are the lightdm and compiz logs?
[18:20] <blacklight> found a way to have lmms with VST support on ubuntu 13.10 for amd64 - got to install lmms from the PPA irie/lmms, anyway it installed the whole i386 environment, included libc, XOrg and wine, since libvestige does not build for amd64 yet...a fix would be probably needed on the trunk before the release of 14.04, the support for VST is very critical for lmms, and without them it becomes pretty usless (at least for me), it would be like
[18:23] <Pinkamena_D> After resuming from suspend, my bluetooth mouse 'connects' as in I can see the bluetooth activity led blink when I move it, but the mouse does not move. It seems the only way to fix it is to restart.
[18:23] <bohandez> join #deve
[18:23] <Pinkamena_D> Anyone know a fix for this?
[18:23] <pac1> glitsj16, the dangers of cutting and pasting samples from the net.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Pinkamena: try restarting the bluetooth service
[18:25] <pac1> A while ago, I added an item to my unity Launcher  Now I can't seem to find where I added it.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Pac1: click the top left icon and search for it
[18:25] <pac1> how do you find the files for the items in the launcher?
[18:26] <pac1> That gets you something in dash, but where is the underlying file?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Pac1: they are in /usr/share/applications
[18:26] <glitsj16> pac1: might be in your ~/.local/usr/share/applications
[18:28] <pac1> cannot access /home/pac1/.local/usr: No such file or directory  and its not in /usr/share/applications
[18:28] <pac1> where else does dash look?
[18:28] <trism> pac1: ~/.local/share/applications/ , no usr
[18:28] <glitsj16> pac1: see trism, my bad
[18:29] <pac1> np
[18:29] <trism> pac1: although that's just the desktop files, the list of favorites is in dconf
[18:29] <trism> pac1: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites
[18:30] <pac1> I apparently added it to   I added it to  ~/.local/share/applications/alacarte-made.desktop
[18:33] <aia> folks... samba... how come I cant connect to my shares? And no I do not expect you to magicallty know that.. BUT. I can see the shares from my phone/xbmc/windows 7 machine, BUT I am told I have no access to them...
[18:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[18:34] <BluesKaj> ala, try fish
[18:37] <gabriel> hi there installed nvidia driver 331 Xorg stalled no option to get a shell,just booting with recovery mode i have chance anyone had a better experience
[18:38] <gabriel> Is it possible that every time i install the linux source there's all these problems even in Fedora ?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> gabriel  better ask in #fedora
[18:39] <andyfied> aia: almost certainly a massive permission thing. it was a bit fiddley for me to get it working
[18:39] <gabriel> MonkeyDust: Now Ubuntu world
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Gabriel: how did you install the driver?
[18:39] <OerHeks> gabriel, that driver is for trusty 14.04
[18:39] <gabriel> throuh nvidia site, and then tried the ppa
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Gabriel: we cannot support PPAs here. There is a driver installer as part of the Ubuntu OS
[18:40] <gabriel> i tried 304 and the next
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Gabriel: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:41] <gabriel> right now i'm not on my desktop
[18:42] <gabriel> i just wanted some info about that problem
[18:42] <OerHeks> .. and somehow available to precise https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
[18:42] <BluesKaj> gabriel, the 331 driver is experimental as well , try, dkms status to see which driver is installed
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Gabriel: i suggest you remove the driver you have installed, remove the ppa and reboot
[18:44] <gabriel> this is almwost the same issue,Bug #1243566: Unable to boot after nvidia upgrade , how do i have to upgrade grub? update-grub..
[18:45] <aia> andyfied: where do I start unwinding the knot?
[18:46] <ceso> |xdcc list
[18:46] <andyfied> fist of all see if the folders you want to share are in the samba group
[18:46] <andyfied> *first
[18:47] <andyfied> i think
[18:47] <andyfied> or at least if the owners are in the samba group
[18:47] <BluesKaj> gabriel, make sure you don't have nomodeset in /etc/default/grub
[18:48] <ceso> http:xdccing.com
[18:48] <ceso> |xdcclist
[18:49] <OerHeks> ceso, type !list
[18:50] <lustic> I cant remember who gave me advice earlier , but thanks to it, I've successfully got photoshop cs6 extended 13.0 working on ubuntu, so I'll just say thanks for the support everyone !
[18:50] <ciencisto> Hello! I need to important help with my graphics driver
[18:50] <Bashing-om> j/ubuntuforums-unanswered
[18:50] <gabriel> i had to put nomodeset otherwise no way to get any login but after logging in the screen gets totaly black
[18:50] <ciencisto> *need some important
[18:51] <ciencisto> Does anyone have AMD graphics here?
[18:53] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: Yeah I run olf ATI card, open source driver .
[18:53] <BluesKaj> gabriel, then you have a vicious cycle loop problem ,as actionparsnip suggested remove the 331 driver and the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:54] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: olf *old
[18:54] <Voting> my ubuntu laptop wont boot and last time a buddy typed something into the the grub command line and got this laptap to go back to booting just fine, some sort of re-set thing... hangs when I try to boot.
[18:54] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Alright. Unfortunately I have a recent AMD card and the open source driver is still not good enough... so I tried the proprietary driver from AMD's website
[18:55] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: And, now you get a blcak screen ?
[18:56] <Mendel> whats a good program I should get?
[18:56] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Not yet, but I think I would if I rebooted. I got errors (possibly fatal) in my installation log : http://justpaste.it/dyxz
[18:56] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: look'n at the pastie. I be back !
[18:57] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Alright, thank you so much!
[18:57] <Mendel> whats a good program I should get?
[18:58] <ciencisto> Mendel: Depends of what you use?
[18:58] <Mendel> ubuntu
[18:58] <ciencisto> Mendel: And what do you need?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> gabriel, can you get to a virtual console/TTY , ctrl+alt+F1-F6 , then login and remove nivdia-331
[18:59] <Mendel> something interesting to play around with maybe something to trace someones ip
[18:59] <MarkDavies> how can I kill a process which catches both Ctrl+C and Ctrl+Z sequences?
[19:00] <MarkDavies> that is, how can I take the control of the terminal back, in the first place?
[19:00] <ciencisto> Mendel: Trace someone's IP? I don't know any program for that, sorry.
[19:01] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: looks like the installer removed the failed install, can you get a terminal activated at this time ? will run a couple of commands and have a looksee.
[19:01] <Mendel> idk something i can play around with
[19:01] <Mendel> that was jus an idea
[19:01] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: The installation terminal is still opened
[19:02] <micros> When i use kill() to send a signal from a child process to the pid of the parent (launched as root), the parent sigint handler isnt called. However, if i execute the child process using sudo from the shell, it works. Any idea why? thanks.
[19:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Whats the IM client built into Ubuntu?
[19:03] <ciencisto> PublicStaticVoid: Empathy
[19:04] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: What returns from: sudo lshw -C display <- looking at the configuration: line in particular.
[19:06] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Damn, it's in French. Should be easy to understand though. Gonna make another pastie
[19:06] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: http://justpaste.it/dyy9
[19:07] <Bashing-om> ceso: look'n at dyy9 .
[19:07] <micros> note: kill() returns without error.
[19:07] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Alright, waiting
[19:07] <Mendel> good programs?
[19:08] <knightshade> hi
[19:08] <PublicStaticVoid> ciencisto: Thx
[19:08] <Mendel> for linux
[19:08] <OerHeks> !best
[19:08] <ciencisto> PublicStaticVoid: No problem!
[19:08] <micros> if i send sigkill instead of sigint, it works fine.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> ceso: That dyy9 pastie says that there is the open source driver (radeon) loaded, should be able to (re-)boot and come up !
[19:09] <PublicStaticVoid> I still have no registration email :( I changed my Nick, droped and re registered 15 ins ago
[19:10] <PublicStaticVoid> and I am trying to access some +r channels
[19:10] <OerHeks> PublicStaticVoid, join #freenode
[19:10] <PublicStaticVoid> THOUGHT THIS WAS FREENODE MY BAD
[19:10] <PublicStaticVoid> Whoops
[19:11] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: Your dyy9 says there is the open source driver (radeon) loaded, should be able to (re-)boot and come up.
[19:11] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Yes, I am on the open source driver and wanted to switch to the latest proprietary driver. Are you telling me that this failed installation should have done no harm to my graphics and that I can reboot? The driver installation now asks me to reboot: Actions taken by AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver requires a reboot. Would you like to reboot now?  Other users may be logged on.
[19:11] <server-dannemois> hi
[19:12] <icloud> can someone help me? i am getting a fatal error when running update-initramfs -u, ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-generic: No such file or directory
[19:12] <icloud> FATAL: could not search modules: No such file or directory
[19:12] <server-dannemois> quelqu'un ?
[19:12] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: yep, should be safe to do so, I expect you to still have the open source driver available and used .
[19:12] <icloud> i checked my /lib/modules directory all the folders are in the form of 3.11.0-14-generic not .14
[19:13] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Alright. And what about the proprietary driver? Will I be able to install it if I retry of something?
[19:14] <ikonia> icloud: why are you manually running that - it should be run automatically with the kernel update
[19:14] <randomcpp> is noatime necessary with a ssd??
[19:14] <icloud> yeah i got that after installing the latest kernel
[19:15] <ikonia> icloud: where did the kenrel come from ?
[19:15] <icloud> ikonia, so then i tried to manually rerun it
[19:15] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: What is the need to go to the OEM driver ? That means is not for the faint-at-heart ! Have you tried "Additional Drivers" utility to remain with in ubuntu's package management system ?
[19:15] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[19:16] <icloud> ikonia, from the repo, i just did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[19:16] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: In the past months, I have tried at multiple times the Additionnal Drivers, and always they were either not working or slower than the open source driver, which is also slow. That's why I now want to install the OEM driver
[19:16] <ikonia> icloud: while I'm not doubting you personally, it seems unlikley that a kernel would have the wrong directory from the main repo
[19:17] <ikonia> icloud: that is a basic test that would get caught in pre-functional testing.
[19:18] <icloud> ikonia,  yeah i understand i think there is something wrong with my update-initramfs, b/c actually all the old kernels have the same directory structure too.
[19:18] <icloud> icloud@icloud-X58A-UD3R:/lib/modules$ ls
[19:18] <icloud> 3.11.0-13-generic  3.11.0-14-generic  3.8.0-31-generic
[19:18] <ikonia> icloud: again, that seems unlikely that updte-initramfs is a "problem"
[19:19] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: ATI has moved the older (HD 3,4,and 5) cards to "leagacy, and no longer support them > what card do you have ? -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- Maybe nada can be done.
[19:20] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: My card is pretty recent, AMD Radeon HD 6670
[19:20] <DRAMA-MAKER> hello every one
[19:20] <DRAMA-MAKER> happy new year !
[19:20] <DRAMA-MAKER> :)
[19:20] <ciencisto> DRAMA-MAKER: Hey thanks, you too!
[19:21] <DRAMA-MAKER> :)
[19:21] <DRAMA-MAKER> is that international server
[19:21] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: Yeah, should have support for it ! Go to ATI's web site and see what they advise for the proper driver version.
[19:21] <DRAMA-MAKER> with random people or ?
[19:21] <icloud> ikonia, so is it possible to tell update-initramfs to look for the correct folder? or should i just rename the folders
[19:22] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: This is where I went: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
[19:23] <ciencisto> DRAMA-MAKER: With Ubuntu users, developers, and lovers!
[19:23] <ikonia> icloud: I can't check the syntax, but I always thought it was possible to manually set it, but I'd be more worried about what's going on with your sysem
[19:24] <Diplodiplo> hmmm
[19:24] <DRAMA-MAKER> ciencisto especially lovers , innit ?
[19:24] <DRAMA-MAKER> :Ä
[19:24] <DRAMA-MAKER> :D
[19:25] <pacopad> Hi Guys ,
[19:25] <Pessimist> ciencisto, don't ever install propertary ati driver from their website because there's a high chance it will break your X server because it's a generic installer. That's why Ubuntu (and many other distros) package their own catalyst drivers.
[19:25] <pacopad> i'm runing a fresh saucy dist on an arm plateform
[19:25] <ciencisto> DRAMA-MAKER: Probably ;¬)
[19:25] <pacopad> i got problem to compil soft with error like /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libm.so.6: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[19:26] <pacopad> i have to add libs in makefile
[19:26] <pacopad> i already compile those soft on other distro without adding libs
[19:26] <ciencisto> Pessimist: Let's say that I haven't read your username... But what should I do if neither of Ubuntu's drivers are good enough?
[19:26] <pacopad> is there something to check ?
[19:27] <icloud> ikonia, yeah it is really weird i can't boot into the new kernel, but i can still use the old ones.
[19:27] <randomcpp> is noatime necessary with a ssd?
[19:27] <bekks> randomcpp: No.
[19:27] <randomcpp> ok thanks
[19:28] <compdoc> randomcpp, i use that option
[19:28] <Pessimist> pacopad, I don't think this has to do anything with Ubuntu and we can't tell/guess what software are you trying to compile and what it has to do w/ ubuntu
[19:28] <ki7rw> anyone know why that i get a message that my firefox facebook plugin can't access my account?
[19:28] <pacopad> for exemple X11 related soft
[19:28] <randomcpp> compdoc, what's the point to disable journaling with ssd? reduce rw operations?
[19:28] <Pessimist> ciencisto, catalyst has a shitty (pardon) 2d acceleration so if you have a older cpu you can't change anything. What GPU do you have?
[19:29] <pacopad> i got to add -lX11
[19:29] <pacopad> i never do that with this soft on other distro
[19:29] <pacopad> maybe i missed a special package on saucy ?
[19:29] <ciencisto> Pessimist: Gotta regret buying an AMD graphics for Windows 8... I have an AMD Radeon HD 6670 card
[19:30] <Guest47449> Hello how are you guys doing?  I am wondering where games go when they get installed. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and am installing free games from the software manager. Is there a folder these games go when they are installed? Or do I always have to search in the menu?
[19:30] <TJ-> icloud: I just came in... which version of Ubuntu and which kernel version (I've seen 2 similar reports over the last few days) ?
[19:31] <TJ-> Guest47449: All programs are installed in a range of directories based upon the program content. To see where all files belonging to a package are installed do "dpkg-query -L <package-name>" e.g. "dpkg-query -L mygame"
[19:31] <icloud> TJ-, i am using 13.10,
[19:32] <compdoc> randomcpp, are you saying disabling 'last access time' is actually disabling journaling?
[19:32] <sixtustha5> whats the ktrace equivalent in backtrack???
[19:32] <icloud> 3.11.0-13 generic
[19:32] <Pessimist> ciencisto, free radeon driver should be in a pretty good spot for hd6xxx: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/. It comes by default w/ Ubuntu and you don't have to install anything. If you want the greatest and latest you can try  this ppa (it MIGHT be buggy and break your system and it's unsupported here): https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Flaun
[19:32] <Pessimist> chpad.net%2F~oibaf%2F%2Barchive%2Fgraphics-drivers&ei=OW3EUqfVKKHH7AaJkoD4Dw&usg=AFQjCNHUnglaCk5d6zktd-L0b7WqtaeGvg&sig2=wfdZs0FSQ-bzmY2DScG5VQ&bvm=bv.58187178,d.ZGU
[19:32] <Pessimist> SORRY
[19:32] <FloodBot1> Pessimist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <icloud> TJ-, i can't boot into the latest kernel,
[19:32] <TJ-> icloud:  There have been reports that I tracked down to a failure of "update-initramfs" to correctly build the /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` file-systems
[19:32] <Pessimist> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers (fuck you, google)
[19:32] <randomcpp> compdoc, nope just misspelled the question :/
[19:33] <IdleOne> !language | Pessimist
[19:33] <randomcpp> forget the second question
[19:33] <ciencisto> Pessimist: Hahaha, now I see why you chose that nick
[19:33] <adminewb1> hi all - recently upgraded to 12.04.3LTS and discovered I have to manually load wireless driver module rt2800usb for networking, where prior to upgrade it would load by itself; where do I configure the automatic loading on boot?
[19:33] <randomcpp> compdoc, what's the point to disable access time with ssd? <-
[19:33] <sixtustha5> ???
[19:34] <ciencisto> Pessimist: Thanks, going to take a look now
[19:34] <icloud> TJ-, is there any solution to it?
[19:34] <Bashing-om> ciencisto: Kids are in, This will have to wait for a few hours.
[19:34] <ayiga> hi
[19:34] <Pessimist> adminewb1, edit /etc/modules and add rt2800usb there
[19:35] <ayiga> someone can help me to understand th utility of dedicated server pls
[19:35] <adminewb1> thanks
[19:35] <ciencisto> Bashing-om: Alright, going to rely on others' help. Thanks for your support!
[19:35] <TJ-> icloud: Yes. From a booted older kernel create/regenerate the bad initrd-img... if that is the cause. What specific errors do you see when it fails to boot?
[19:36] <Gerhard> Hi, are there other reasons for getting 'No key available with this passphrase' on  'cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 cryptdisk' then using the wrong passphrase?
[19:36] <ayiga> hi guys someone can help me to understand th utility of dedicated server pls
[19:37] <mjayk> ayiga: your going to have to be more specific than that
[19:37] <compdoc> ssds have a limited amount of writes before they die. if you dont care about the last time a file was accessed, you can reduce the number of writes, and increase speed
[19:37] <Gerhard> maybe I need a encryption module loaded?
[19:37] <ciencisto> Pessimist : Alright, removing all fglrx and doing some cleaning and updating, then I'll try the PPA
[19:37] <sixtustha5> hello all
[19:38] <ayiga> on which way can i use th dedicated server, what is th advantage of dedicated server
[19:38] <sixtustha5> what is a ktrace equivalent in ubuntu or can ktrace be installed???
[19:38] <Pessimist> ciencisto, if you experience any issues you should fill a bug report for X and if you have any issues just use ppa-purge and reinstall xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:39] <icloud> TJ, i got black screen, can't drop to terminal.  Then i booted the old kernel i got the fatal error when manually regenerating the initframs
[19:40] <denysonique> What is gnome-flashback?
[19:40] <TJ-> icloud: Is there a separate partition for /boot/ ? Has it run out of space (try "df") ?
[19:40] <ciencisto> Pessimist, how can I report a but for X?
[19:40] <icloud> yeah /boot is on a separate partition
[19:41] <icloud> TJ-,  no it is only 50% used
[19:41] <TJ-> icloud: Can you do "sudo update-initramfs -uvk all | pastebinit" (assuming you have pastebinit installed) ?
[19:41] <Pessimist> ciencisto, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg&component=Driver/Radeon and include as much relevant info as possible.
[19:42] <Gerhard> What's the default crypt method of the ubuntu installer with luks? Is it aes?
[19:42] <ciencisto> Pessimist: Alright, bookmarked. Just wondering, is there anything in Firefox that can make scrolling s*ck?
[19:43] <Pessimist> denysonique, gnome 3 had radical changes to the environment so they implemented a shell 'gnome-flashback' which is similar to gnome 2 and uses similar underlying technologies
[19:43] <gordonjcp> ciencisto: sick?
[19:43] <gordonjcp> ciencisto: suck? what is "s*ck"?
[19:44] <denysonique> Pessimist: is this something supported, usable? I logged on using it but I am unable to set virtual desktops
[19:44] <ciencisto> gordonjcp: Yes, the latter. Scrolling is extremely laggy
[19:44] <gordonjcp> ciencisto: have you disabled smooth scrolling?
[19:44] <ciencisto> Yes I have gordonjcp. It's even more painful
[19:44] <gordonjcp> hm
[19:44] <Pessimist> ciencisto, if you just removed fglrx and didn't install radeon back then you are using vesa which doesn't use your gpu at all
[19:45] <gordonjcp> true
[19:45] <gordonjcp> using vesa would make *everything* suck, not just scrolling
[19:45] <icloud> TJ, update-initramfs is looking for /boot/config-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic instead of /boot/config-3.11.0-14-generic and also /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-generic instead of /lib/modules/3.11.0-14-generic, i created symlink to both places and it seem to have regenerated the initrd.img
[19:45] <icloud> TJ-, ok i will remove the symlinks and pastebin it
[19:45] <ciencisto> Pessimist: How can I install Radeon? I indeed think that I'm using something called Vesa-TURKS or something like that +gordonjcp
[19:48] <Pessimist> ciencisto, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx then try installing xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:48] <ciencisto> Pessimist and gordonjcp, I checked and I'm using xserver-xorg-video-ati right now. I wonder if it'd change if I rebooted
[19:49] <icloud> TJ-, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6674712/
[19:49] <Pessimist> ciencisto, you must atleast reboot your X, idk if you have to reboot your computer
[19:50] <ciencisto> Pessimist, how can I do that?
[19:51] <Pessimist> ciencisto, sudo service lightdm restart should probably work or just sudo pkill X
[19:51] <ciencisto> Pessimist: That is weird. All graphics are fine, the Dash is snappy, but scrolling in Firefox is atrocious.
[19:52] <TJ-> icloud: Good... starting to see the issue... can you do "ls -latr /boot/ /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ | pastebinit"
[19:54] <icloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6674731/
[19:54] <icloud> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6674731/
[19:54] <ikonia> icloud: interesting two entreis with - and .
[19:55] <TJ-> icloud: This ought to fix it: "sudo update-initfamfs -d -vk <IP_ADDRESS>-generic" then do "sudo update-initramfs -uvk all | pastebinit" again... that should not fail.
[19:55] <BrianH> How can I find all processes that are generating sound?
[19:56] <BrianH> I've purged alsa and pulseaudio before and reinstalled, which seemed to clean up the buzzing.  But it keeps coming back.
[19:57] <TJ-> BrianH: what kind of buzzing?
[19:57] <BrianH> TJ-: Uh, it's hard to explain.
[19:58] <TJ-> BrianH: hum it? :p
[19:58] <ciencisto> I'm back
[19:58] <BrianH> It's a constant "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
[19:58] <icloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6674749/
[19:58] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:58] <icloud> TJ-, ok its fine now, thanks for your hlep
[20:00] <TJ-> BrianH: A low-level buzzing can often be caused by a PC's internal audio cables (or external headphones/microphones) picking up stray signals from electrically noisy components ... does the sound seem to vary with the load on the PC ?
[20:01] <BrianH> TJ-: Nah, like I said, I can purge alsa and pulseaudio, reinstall and reboot, and the system is fine.
[20:02] <rww> given that alsa is part of the kernel, one does not simply "purge alsa"
[20:02] <theadmin> So. I have a new laptop, Lenovo G580. It works great, but the brightness drops to 0 every time Ubuntu boots (it's fine on BIOS POST stage), what gives? How could I make it keep the brightness at a normal level?
[20:03] <BrianH> rww: alsa-base
[20:04] <BrianH> and alsa-utils
[20:05] <BrianH> I leave my system run 24/7, and typically don't realize the buzzing until I start working on it in the morning and turn on the speakers.
[20:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:12] <gartral> hey all, there is a sticky notes applet I have installed, but what's the name of the program/
[20:12] <Buzzer> Fun fact: the Japanese write it as 'mackerel split' because the word 'server' sounds similar to 'mackerel' in Japanese
[20:13] <gartral> Buzzer: er.. that was humourosly ot..
[20:16] <glitsj16> gartral: what did you install exactly?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> gartral  tomboy?
[20:16] <gartral> glitsj16: i didn't it came preinstalled
[20:18] <glitsj16> gartral: can you see it in /usr/share/applications?
[20:20] <Stooge> hello I put Thai as language and then switched back to English but all my file names are with bugged encoding currently and aren't in English anymore any ideas?
[20:21] <Seven_Six_Two> Are there standard meanings for exit statuses?
[20:22] <Seven_Six_Two> aside from 0 = normal and > 0 = not normal
[20:24] <glitsj16> Seven_Six_Two: for bash --> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/exitcodes.html
[20:26] <Seven_Six_Two> glitsj16, perfect! thanks!
[20:30] <metadept> hello, i'm having some issues setting up ubuntu 13.10 as a dual boot on a windows 8 laptop, is this the proper place to ask?
[20:31] <theadmin> metadept: Sure thing.
[20:31] <theadmin> !efi | metadept, please consult this.
[20:33] <metadept> well specifically, i installed ubuntu on a separate hard drive (24gb ssd) as a single partition without a swap partition, it seemed to work fine, but attempting to access some of the windows partitions gave me an error saying that windows hadn't shut down properly so they were locked
[20:33] <rww> metadept: Windows 8 doesn't shut down fully when you say shut down. See e.g. http://www.howtogeek.com/129021/how-to-do-a-full-shutdown-in-windows-8-without-disabling-hybrid-boot/
[20:33] <metadept> then when i booted into windows, it went into system restore and did a bunch of opaque operations, which broke the linux partition SOMEHOW such that it boots to recovery mode but not graphical
[20:34] <rww> (no idea about the second part of your issue, i have no experience with windows 8 system restore)
[20:35] <metadept> so part of my confusion stems from the fact that i have no idea what windows even did when it decided to "fix" things or why it would have any issue in the first place with something on a separate empty drive
[20:35] <danishman> Windows 8 fast boot, creates error in Linux. It's a known problem, and there are good work around
[20:36] <metadept> danishman, thanks, i'll see if disabling that solves the issue
[20:37] <danishman> yes
[20:37] <Darkenvy> where can I get help with scripts?
[20:37] <Darkenvy> Need help with "AWK"
[20:38] <glitsj16> Darkenvy: i'd try #bash
[20:40] <Darkenvy> glitsj16, I downloaded the freenode list and found out that awk has its very own channel :O
[20:40] <Darkenvy> glitsj16, thanks man. I didnt think Freenode would have that :P
[20:41] <glitsj16> Darkenvy: good to know thx
[20:44] <jake_py> Could anyone help me with ruby gems and ubuntu?
[20:48] <eric> test
[20:49] <devdvd> hi all, I'm trying to encrypt a second drive on 12.04 lts but all i can find online is the full process for encrypting an os drive.  Can someone point me to a good doc on just encrypting a second drive
[20:55] <Pessimist> devdvd, create a volume group on that drive then create volumes you want and encrypt it with cryptsetup
[20:56] <vaio> hey, what is the difference between a mainline and repo kernel?
[20:57] <bekks> vaio: The first does not contain the additional ubuntu patches of the latter.
[20:57] <bekks> vaio: The first one is build from the stock kernel.org sources.
[20:57] <vaio> oh ok
[20:58] <vaio> and the repo kernel, is shipped on the install medium/via updates?
[20:58] <bekks> vaio: Correct.
[20:58] <vaio> bekks: a guy on the launchpad error tracker asked me to submit a bug with the repository kernel booted
[20:59] <vaio> guess i'm clear then
[20:59] <vaio> thank you
[21:00] <bekks> vaio: you're welcome.
[21:02] <jj_> hey
[21:02] <jj_> how do i open magnet links in transmission?
[21:05] <Pessimist> jj_, add torrent by url or something like that ?
[21:05] <jj_> Pessimist: yes
[21:06] <devdvd> Pessimist: thank you
[21:06] <jj_> i use transmission as default torrent client, but theres no option to open magnet with it
[21:07] <Pessimist> devdvd, then you can open it with cryptOpen (you probably have found some kind of article/tutorial -- it's pretty straightforward)
[21:08] <Pessimist> jj_, there is add -> add url on my transmission 2.51
[21:09] <brontosaurusrex> jj_, drag and drop not working?
[21:09] <jj_> Pessimist: but i want like, when i click the magnet link, it opens automatically in transmission
[21:09] <glitsj16> jj_: you've got to set /usr/bin/transmission-gtk as your preferred magnet protocol client in your browser, so when clicking a magnet url it gets sent straight to transmission
[21:10] <glitsj16> jj_: what browser do you use?
[21:10] <jj_> firefox
[21:11] <jj_> glitsj16:
[21:11] <jj_> it worked
[21:11] <glitsj16> jj_: ok, you can set it in firefox prefs > applications, search for magnet and assign transmission-gtk to it, you'll need to browse manually to /usr/bin
[21:11] <glitsj16> cool
[21:11] <jj_> i had to go to this directory: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[21:11] <jj_> then it worked
[21:11] <jj_> but if i type transmission to search, it doesn't find anything
[21:11] <jj_> strange
[21:12] <glitsj16> jj_: type transmission where?
[21:12] <glitsj16> in dash?
[21:12] <jj_> in that window that you choose the app to open
[21:13] <glitsj16> ah in firefox .. you need to look for torrent and assign the same /usr/bin/transmission-gtk to it i believe
[21:14] <glitsj16> jj_: you can only look for protocols/mime-types and assign apps, not the other way around
[21:14] <jj_> but, if i lookd for "transmission" shouldnt it return the transmission-gtk?
[21:16] <glitsj16> jj_: i don't think so no, because transmission isn't a content type
[21:16] <marcos> hi, i have a server with 2x1tb. when i look at gparted it shows sda nd sdb identical partitions with each being 1tb raid . When i look at the file system under system monitor it shows /dev/md2 as home and /dev/root with bot being only 1tb. Am i missing something? shouldnt i be seeing 2tb?
[21:17] <marcos> maybe i dont understaind raid
[21:19] <curiousx> aloha all, i got a Xonar 7.1 and a 7.1 headphone, but i can not configure my ubuntu 13.10 at 7.1 i only can configure it at 5.1 any one can help me with that please?  -.-
[21:20] <TJ-> marcos: RAID-1 == mirror I'd guess you actually have something like sda1 + sdb1 = md1 mounted at /, and sda2 + sdb2 = md2 mounted at /home
[21:21] <marcos> yes ur actually correct
[21:21] <marcos> but shouldnt it shows as 2tb?
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> curiousx  #better off in #ubuntustudio, i guess
[21:23] <User338857585858> Does anyone know if Ubuntu is secure?/
[21:23] <marcos> oh thanks TJ-  i got a link explaining raids
[21:23] <marcos> thank you again
[21:24] <geirha> jj_: How did you install transmission-gtk?
[21:25] <Pessimist> User338857585858, what do you mean?
[21:25] <jj_> it comes with ubuntu 13.10
[21:25] <jj_> geirha:
[21:25] <geirha> jj_: Then it should've been available from the Dash, yes
[21:25] <User338857585858> I mean, the NSA seems to have owned just about everything... have the bough ubuntu as well???
[21:26] <jj_> it is geirha
[21:26] <jj_> but its doesn't show up in the window of adding app to open magnet in firefox
[21:26] <apb1963> Greetings & Happy New Year
[21:27] <geirha> jj_: Ah, maybe check if you have any transmission desktop files under ~/.local/share/applications
[21:28] <curiousx> MonkeyDust, ty
[21:28] <curiousx> ill try that channel its a good idea, maybe they can help me :)
[21:29] <apb1963> The operation was a success.  I have now completed the debootstrap process and  I'm running off my "new" disk.  I also have my old failing disk mounted as an external device.  I would like to restore all of my old applications, settings, data, etc.  What's the best way to go about doing that?
[21:29] <glitsj16> curiousx: have you tried http://www.webupd8.org/2009/06/enable-surround-sound-in-ubuntu-linux.html yet?
[21:29] <Pessimist> jj_, if you set it in preferences and when you click on the magnet link it won't show any windows in firefox, it will just open transmission and show you the window of adding a new torrent there
[21:30] <geirha> jj_: Oh, nevermind. I see the transmission-gtk package doesn't register itself as a magnet opener
[21:32] <lhamil64> hi
[21:33] <apb1963> I'm sure there must be a log file that has a record of all the apt-get installs I've done for starters?  And perhaps another program that reads that file and can re-install those things - perhaps with interactive input so I can pick and choose what I want to reinstall?
[21:34] <lhamil64> Quick question about bluetooth. If I run "dmesg | grep Blue", it lists bluetooth devices, but when I go to the bluetooth preferences it says there aren't any devices found.
[21:34] <apb1963> Sort of a like a backup/restore in a way?
[21:34] <bekks> apb1963: /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:34] <bekks> apb1963: No sort of backup/restore, just a log.
[21:34] <apb1963> bekks:  good starting point ty
[21:44] <anonymous_> hey
[21:46] <bjensen8_> Where is the best place to start when figuring out why an ubuntu 12.04 lts server has crashed? I know the time. The syslogd tells me nothing: Here is a snippet: http://pastie.org/8592187
[21:47] <TJ-> bjensen8_: kern.log, auth.log
[21:48] <TJ-> bjensen8_: if it lost power you won't see anything (unless its on a UPS)... if the kernel panicked then unlikely the log file was synced to disk
[21:48] <bjensen8_> bjensen: right. I asked the hosting center. they said they looked at their power usage graphs, no drops
[21:49] <bjensen8_> TJ-: I mean
[21:49] <apb1963> bjensen8_: The best place to start looking would be at the console, prior to rebooting the system
[21:49] <TJ-> bjensen8_: then search all the logs to reconstruct the time it failed and work backwards from that point in all the logs to see if anything stands out
[21:50] <bjensen8_> apb1963: Right Ive done that for syslog, nothing unusual is popping up. Only blocks by UFW
[21:50] <TJ-> bjensen8_: How long was it from last entry before crash, to the reboot? Could that indicate a physical intrusion?
[21:51] <bjensen8_> TJ-: 20 minuttes
[21:51] <apb1963> bjensen8_: Not syslog... not any log.  On the screen... prior to rebooting
[21:51] <bjensen8_> apb1963: Um..how can I check that now?
[21:52] <apb1963> bjensen8_: after taking a picture of that screen with a camera, then you can reboot and start looking at logs as TJ- is saying
[21:52] <apb1963> bjensen8_: You can't.  Now you know for next time it happens :)
[21:52] <bjensen8_> its a U1, no screen
[21:52] <bjensen8_> rack
[21:53] <apb1963> that could be a problem
[21:53] <andyfied> then ssh in and wait for it to break
[21:53] <bjensen8_> TJ-: Sorry I just checked again its 8 minuttes. Which I think is reasonable because it does a lot of temp calibration etc when starting from the bios
[21:53] <andyfied> not that it helped me
[21:54] <apb1963> I believe there's a way to redirect the console to a log file on a remote machine... I don't remember how to do it though.
[21:54] <bekks> andyfied: It will not help - in case of a kernel panic, your ssh connection dies, too.
[21:55] <apb1963> and to be honest... I don't know if it would help in the instance of a kernel panic
[21:55] <bjensen8_> The only thing in the kern.log within 30 min of the shutdown is UFW blocks. So perhaps a malformed package to make the server crash?
[21:55] <bjensen8_> package = packet
[21:55] <andyfied> oh, didn't read up far enough for kernal panic, but i thought there was only two things you could find out from that anyway, sync or no sync to disk
[21:55] <apb1963> I remember reading about packets of death a long time ago, but it was a fairly rare situation
[21:57] <TJ-> bjensen8_: Do you have remote KVM to it? If so set up a logging monitor on it in case it happens again... could be a developing hardware fault
[21:58] <cristian_c> Hello again
[21:58] <cristian_c> How can I install jsattach?
[21:59] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[21:59] <apb1963> bjensen8_:  TJ- had a good thought... do a memtest on it
[21:59] <bjensen8_> TJ-: I could order it yes
[22:00] <cristian_c> What package is it contained in?
[22:00] <apb1963> there isn't any kind of mamaboard test is there?
[22:00] <bjensen8_> apb1963: can I do memtest from within ubuntu?
[22:00] <bekks> bjensen8_: you can install memtest86+ and reboot into it.
[22:01] <bekks> bjensen8_: you would need a console.
[22:01] <bjensen8_> bekks: yeah I was hoping I could perform a test from within ssh
[22:01] <apb1963> not while it's running afaik .... you have to run it from a boot
[22:04] <bjensen8_> ok ill see if it happens again and then order a kvm at the hosting center
[22:04] <bjensen8_> I can use memtest if I have kvm, right?
[22:05] <apb1963> I also wanted to run memtest while the machine was up... but you have to figure that at best, it could only test memory not currently in use... otherwise it would have to keep rearranging memory allocations and I don't think that's even possible in ubuntu - specifying where in memory a program will run?  That would be something.
[22:06] <apb1963> I mean it could be done... I just don't think the kernel is designed that way - but then I'm just guessing.
[22:20] <samiralajaad> sup yo
[22:22] <rhagu> Hi I think about installing a newer kernel on 12.04 via linux-generic-lts  but what does eol stand for?
[22:22] <Pessimist> rhagu, eol = end of life
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> !eol
[22:24] <DevAndy> Hello Ubuntu IRC!
[22:24] <rhagu> ah, so eol versions will not automatically switch to the next hwe stack after (for example) saucy has reached its end of life?
[22:24] <DevAndy> I'm trying to use PostFix to forward my emails to Gmail, but I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/zwD4gs6R
[22:24] <bekks> rhagu: No.
[22:25] <samiralajaad> hi
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> Pessimist  now type /topic what releases are not yet eol
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> to see*
[22:28] <samiralajaad> what is the difference between ubuntu repos and debian repos?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> samiralajaad: one is for debian, one is for ubuntu
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Rhagu: you need to manually upgrade to Trusty from Saucy. Saucy will continue to work after it is EOL but you will get zero updates and zero community support
[22:31] <ytrezq> Hello, I need a multithreaded version of grep for searching in a file which make 1TB. Does any one know a working version? thanks
[22:32] <rhagu> ActionParsnip I see, but what is the difference between these two packages: linux-generic-lts-saucy-eol-upgrade linux-generic-lts-saucy ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-generic-lts-saucy-eol-upgrade
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Rhagu: where are you getting the package from?
[22:33] <rhagu> sudo apt-cache search linux-generic-lts on ubuntu 12.04
[22:34] <Pessimist> linux-generic-lts-saucy is a backport of saucy kernel to ubuntu 12.04
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Rhagu: that command doesnt need sudo?
[22:34] <rww> ActionParsnip: it's in precise and precise-updates
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Rhagu: it doesnt. Stupid keyboard
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Rww: i see
[22:35] <rhagu> It is the other one with eol in it, which I do not know what it is good for
[22:36] <bekks> rhagu: For updating from already EOL versions.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[22:43] <shahan123123> hello, what do people call the "try Ubuntu" session when you boot from an install USB?
[22:43] <shahan123123> do they call that the liveUSB?
[22:43] <bekks> shahan123123: Yeah.
[22:43] <rhagu> bekks so (running with the quantal kernel) instead of installing the next version via linux-generic-lts-raring I would just do linux-generic-lts-quantal-eol-upgrade?
[22:44] <bekks> rhagu: Only when your Ubuntu release is EOL.
[22:44] <rhagu> what does it do if it isnt?
[22:45] <shahan123123> i see, i got a "could not write bytes:  broken pipe" error at boot, and am now using Ubuntu 12.04 liveUSB
[22:45] <jhutchins> shahan123123: Does it matter?  Does it work for you?
[22:45] <bekks> rhagu: I cant tell, I am running supported releases only.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> shahan123123: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:46] <shade_> F
[22:47] <rhagu> bekks I am not sure whether I understand your answers correctly, but you know, that "linux-generic-lts-saucy-eol-upgrade" is a package that can be found via apt-cache search on a ubuntu 12.04.0 install?
[22:48] <shahan123123> jhutchins: ActionParsnip, i had a working install of 12.04 going for a while on my laptop, it was the only OS on there and recently i got the broken pipe error it won't boot at all and running form the liveUSB kinf of sucks it is a 32GB usb and wireless won't work
[22:51] <shreezbot> I think I have a corrupt ext4 partition, but when I attempt to run fsck.ext4 on it, it tells me that it isn't a valid ext2 partition...
[22:51] <TJ-> shahan123123: Will the machine boot to the Recovery session (Hold down shift as the machine starts to boot to get the GRUB boot-loader menu, then navigate the grub menu to locate the "Recovery ..." option
[22:51] <shreezbot> Is there another way that I'm not aware of to fix ext4 partitions in Ubuntu?
[22:51] <Guido1> Hello, I have a question about virtual systems and real systems. Does one of the options has an advantage considdering the space on the harddrive?
[22:54] <bekks> Guido1: No.
[22:54] <Beldar> Guido1, The advantage of virtual is running more that one os at a time not the space.
[22:54] <shahan123123> TJ-: yeah i've been to the recovery and can use a TTY for some stuff, but "fix broken packages" didn't help, what can i do in recovery mode?  failsafe graphics mode does nothing it just blinks
[22:55] <bekks> rhagu: If you are running an EOL version of Ubuntu, you should use the -eol-upgrade kernel package - if your release is still support, you dont have to use it.
[22:55] <Guido1> Beldar, bekks: Okee, I already thought that. thanks
[22:55] <rhagu> bekks I see, thanks
[22:56] <TJ-> shahan123123: It can be caused by a couple of issues. The first is mistmatches with the video card drivers (especially nvidia), the other is a user profile file created by the X display server that simply needs deleting ( "rm /home/$USER/.Xauthority" - replace $USER with your username)
[22:57] <Guido1> I also have another question. I'm using seamnkey and firefox on xubuntu. some websits ask if it is allowed to get information about the location. if i say "yes" it doesn't work. if i use the same browsers on windows xp it works. so i assume that it has to do with xubuntu.
[22:58] <shahan123123> TJ-:  hmm I saw that on a thread/Askubuntu thing before and i know my laptop doesn't have nvidia
[22:58] <shahan123123> TJ-: I sudo rm .Xauthority in home directory and it didn't fix it... :(  thanks for the help though
[23:00] <TJ-> shahan123123: Create a new clean user profile and try logging into that; if it works, you know the cause is something specific to the main user profile ("sudo adduser test")
[23:02] <shahan123123> TJ-:  oh i disabled the 'ask for password' at login and I get the error ....  hmm is there a way to enable the ask for password from the tty?  or root shell prompt?
[23:02] <ehnde> anyone got the ati drivers working in 13.10 with dual monitors?
[23:04] <shahan123123> TJ-:  i mean like since, I set it up to auto login and bypass the user and guest screen password prompt screen, the error shows up automatically right?
[23:04] <shahan123123> TJ-: since it goes straight to my user account
[23:04] <Guido1> I also have another question. I'm using seamnkey and firefox on xubuntu. some websits ask if it is allowed to get information about the location. if i say "yes" it doesn't work. if i use the same browsers on windows xp it works. so i assume that it has to do with xubuntu.
[23:05] <TJ-> shahan123123: Check the "/etc/gdm/custom.conf" file, "AutomaticLoginEnable=False" will do it I think
[23:07] <p3rror> is there any application to watch TV for linux
[23:07] <shreezbot> Anyone got any idea why I'd be getting this message when I attempt to do an ls of a directory "ls: cannot access workarea: Input/output error"???
[23:07] <p3rror> I dont have TV card
[23:08] <shahan123123> TJ-:  hmm i seem to not have a 'gdm' folder in etc...  what does that mean? lol   in root directory right?
[23:09] <TJ-> shahan123123: Hmmm, I thought 12.04 had GDM as its display manager... maybe it had moved on to lightdm ... long time since I used it with GUI
[23:10] <TJ-> shahan123123: OK, it is lightdm
[23:11] <shahan123123> TJ-:  oh ok so "/etc/lightdm/user.conf"?
[23:11] <pvl1> hey all. certain x apps look really miscoloured. i have a feeling it is my nvidia module
[23:12] <shahan123123> TJ-:  oh what there is lightdm and users.conf
[23:13] <TJ-> shahan123123: remove "autologin-user" entries from "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" "[SeatDefaults]" section
[23:16] <shahan123123> TJ-:  cool that makes sense, this is one of the 5 lines left is it okay?: "autologin-session=lightdm-autologin" ?
[23:16] <jhutchins> pvl1: laptop or external monitor?
[23:18] <TJ-> shahan123123: I'm not entirely sure... the version I have here seems quite different from what is in 12.04
[23:19] <ZoltaNman> Hi guys! Does any of you guys know how to get libudev-dev working on ubuntu 12.04?
[23:20] <jhutchins> ZoltaNman: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  Specifically what happened instead?
[23:21] <ZoltaNman> The error I get is /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1: no version information available. I have installed libudev-dev, libc6, multiarch-support and ia31-libs
[23:22] <shahan123123> TJ-: okay i'll try that
[23:22] <ehnde> anyone got the ati drivers working in 13.10 with dual monitors?
[23:22] <shahan123123> TJ-: i dropped to root in this liveUSB session and adduser'd test
[23:24] <TJ-> shahan123123: If you're in a liveCD session you are editing only the live session, not the installed OS on the hard disk
 usage hdmi and vga will be good
[23:24] <pvl1> jhutchins: external monitor. television actually
[23:25] <ehnde> quas: i don't have vga, only hdmi and DVI
[23:25] <jhutchins> pvl1: Did it suddenly change?
[23:25] <quas> sad
[23:25] <TJ-> shahan123123: You need to boot from the installed 12.04, hold down Shift as soon as the BIOS hands over to the GRUB boot-loader, and from the GRUB boot menu, navigate the sub-menu to the "Recovery..." option... that'll boot to a single-user non-GUI session where you can make the changes
[23:25] <pvl1> jhutchins: after a kernel upgrade, and i reinstalled nvidia module. perhaps i should justtry to reinstlal module again. is glamoregl neccessary?
[23:26] <jhutchins> pvl1: Check your cable.
[23:26] <pvl1> jhutchins: but everything else works fine... just vlc is blue
[23:26] <shahan123123> TJ-: oh i seem to have made the changes from a "sudo -i" in this liveUSB session... but i'll check again when i reboot into recovery, thank you.
[23:26] <jhutchins> ZoltaNman: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  Specifically what happened instead?
[23:28] <Bashing-om> cian1500ww: /win 3
[23:29] <ZoltaNman> jhutchins: I am trying to run cgminer. The error I get is /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1: no version information available. I have installed libudev-dev, libc6, multiarch-support and ia31-libs.
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[23:41] <jhutchins> ZoltaNman: I presume that's a bitcoin thing?  It looks like some component of it is unable to determine the version of libudev - why it needs that who knows.  Sounds like poor coding/packaging.  Try a different miner?  Get support from the project?
[23:42] <bobborna> !list
[23:49] <jamesaxl_> :-)
[23:50] <idueppe> hi, I'm frustated - does anybody managed to install ubuntu 12.04 on raid > lvm > luks via debootstraping? Why does it only works via guided installation?
[23:56] <idueppe> does grub-install uses /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab?