[01:07] <mutantturkey> o/
[01:07] <mutantturkey> long time no I -R- See
[01:09] <mutantturkey> jedijf: any opinion on system76?
[01:34] <rmg51> Teddy has one of their laptops
[01:39] <mutantturkey> any idea if it is well suited?
[01:40] <mutantturkey> I mean they look nice enough, I am not sold on the stats though,
[01:40] <mutantturkey> 699 for a shitty i3 is just not worth it.
[01:40]  * mutantturkey grabs the swear-jar
[01:46] <jedijf> mutantturkey: it depends on circumstance, but i do believe that you can get more with mainstream deals and installing yourself
[01:46] <rmg51> then you don't want to here the stats on Teddy's :-D
[01:46] <mutantturkey> jedijf: hmmm, I have 800+ dollars. any suggestions?
[01:47] <mutantturkey> also, o/ havent been around in forever. working 2 jobs and going to school
[01:47] <rmg51> save save save
[01:47] <mutantturkey> rmg51: I have saved, I need a laptop for work
[01:47] <jedijf> mutantturkey: np, work and school is good. my theory is always get the most for the buck...i have no brand preferences
[01:48] <rmg51> you may want to look  at zareason as well
[01:48] <mutantturkey> jedijf: also, I don't want to pay 100+ EXTRA for windows I wont use..
[01:48] <mutantturkey> also, the system 76 lappys look very "mac" ish, meaning, simple, and cleanly designed
[01:49] <mutantturkey> I am sick of flashy crappy laptops made from cheap materials, I want a damn nice case.

[01:49] <mikedep334> it's hard to compare models, but dealigg.com covers all the latest laptop deals
[01:49] <waltman> meh
[01:49] <jedijf> mutantturkey: you may be a lenova/thinkpad/ideapad person
[01:49] <mikedep334> http://www.dealigg.com/cat-best-price-ComputersLaptop
[01:49] <PennBot> Title: Best Computer - Laptop Deals, Coupon Codes Discount, Rebates at Dell Best Buy, Newegg and More! (at www.dealigg.com)
[01:50] <mutantturkey> jedijf: I have gotten alot of reccomendations for the stinkpads
[01:50] <mikedep334> just keep in mind that ubuntu compatibility is hard to find for the average computer
[01:50] <jedijf> mutantturkey: nad what waltman said
[01:50] <mikedep334> *is hard to find out
[01:50] <mikedep334> do know 2 things
[01:50] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: I don't use ubuntu :p
[01:51] <mutantturkey> but anyway, here is my rule: stick with intel internals, and you'll be fine.
[01:51] <mikedep334> 1, core i3, i5 & i7 CPU models with 4 digits, like 2310, 2410, 2630QM are all the latest series of intel chips
[01:51] <mikedep334> with much better graphics for one thing
[01:52] <mikedep334> the older models are like 650, 480M, etc
[01:52] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: yeah, that's what I am going for
[01:52] <mikedep334> also
[01:52] <mutantturkey> probably an i5 or some such.
[01:52] <mikedep334> AMD's fusion process are coming out anyday now
[01:52] <mikedep334> but if you do go with a the very latest models, linux compatibility may not be as good
[01:52] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, do you use windows?
[01:57] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: arch linux
[01:57] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: yeah, but it will still be good.
[01:57] <mutantturkey> I have an atom330 right now...
[01:57] <mutantturkey> anything is better
[02:00] <mikedep334> one thing though
[02:00] <mikedep334> if your distro is like Ubuntu and includes proprietary firmware modules
[02:00] <mikedep334> intel wi-fi is well supported
[02:01] <mikedep334> Intel graphics also works the best under linux, but you will need a new Xorg, mesa, kernel, etc for the new intel core i3/i5/i7 #### series graphics (the "Sandy Bridge" platform/CPU's)
[02:02] <mutantturkey> what do you mean a new Xorg?
[02:02] <mikedep334> I'm pretty sure Ubuntu users have to use Ubuntu 11.04 for that, or install messy PPA's on 10.10
[02:02] <mutantturkey> archlinux is rolling release :) we literally use anything upstream.
[02:02] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, ahh, right!
[02:02] <mutantturkey> the second upstream releases we pull it.
[02:02] <mutantturkey> so basically that means we don't have to deal with bugs
[02:02] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, without applying any patches?
[02:02] <mutantturkey> because It's all upstreams fault :)
[02:02] <mutantturkey> we try to not.
[02:02] <mutantturkey> the less patches the better, mostly we are ok without thme
[02:02] <mikedep334> cool
[02:02] <mutantturkey> anything old we drop, so no patches
[02:03] <mutantturkey> we already dropped gnome 2.x
[02:03] <mikedep334> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_15_snb&num=1
[02:03] <PennBot> Title: [Phoronix] Intel Sandy Bridge On Fedora 15 Is Decent (at www.phoronix.com)
[02:03] <mutantturkey> I don't know much with fedor
[02:03] <mutantturkey> what is sandy bridge exactly though
[02:03] <mikedep334> I'm just linking to an article about sandy bridge
[02:03] <mikedep334> the latest one
[02:04] <mikedep334> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_snbsds_compare&num=1
[02:04] <PennBot> Title: [Phoronix] Intel SNB Linux Driver Can Out Run Windows Driver (at www.phoronix.com)
[02:04] <mutantturkey> again, we can outdoo any regular distro
[02:05] <mutantturkey> because whever anything happens upstream we have minimal lag time
[02:05] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, enjoy doing that :)
[02:05] <mutantturkey> I will admit, the lack of package signing is a bit urksome,
[02:05] <mutantturkey> but other than that it is good.
[02:05] <mikedep334> I actually do want to try either gentoo or arch sometime soon
[02:05] <mutantturkey> I am really wanting to try out the latest ubu though, I hear it's cleaned up alot
[02:05] <mikedep334> mostly for the rolling release system
[02:05] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: i suggest arch, great community.
[02:06] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, yeah
[02:06] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: again though, for servers and stuff, I still use debian or ubuntu
[02:06] <mikedep334> but I want to compile stuff on my quad-core core i5
[02:06] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, right, rolling release isn't as good for servers
[02:06] <mutantturkey> though I swear it is... because we get all the latest security fixes :)
[02:07] <jedijf> debian is the server best....old and tested....
[02:07] <mikedep334> yeah
[02:07] <jedijf> Suy breakage is too risky
[02:08] <mutantturkey> jedijf: i hear they are going rolling release
[02:08] <jedijf> seeing is believing
[02:08] <mutantturkey> right.
[02:08] <mutantturkey> anyway hmmmm what to pick for a laptop!
[02:09] <jedijf> lenova....you don't neeed all the flash and hoopla,
[02:09] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, what size/weight were you thinking of?
[02:09] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: no idea
[02:09] <mutantturkey> 13.3 inch probably
[02:09] <mutantturkey> max battery
[02:09] <mutantturkey> doesn't matter.
[02:09] <mikedep334> ahh
[02:09] <mutantturkey> jedijf: i also want it to hold up well, do they?
[02:09] <mikedep334> I think there's a good toshiba like that
[02:09] <mutantturkey> 13-15 inch
[02:09] <mikedep334> at best buy & newegg
[02:10] <jedijf> mutantturkey: they are tough
[02:10] <jedijf> mutantturkey: i use old thinkpads in my van ....winter/summer on the road..bumps..potholes
[02:10] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: newegg :)
[02:10] <mutantturkey> jedijf: right on
[02:11] <mikedep334> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Portege+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i3+Processor+/+13.3%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive+-+Blue/1930072.p?id=1218301623975&skuId=1930072
[02:11] <PennBot> Title: Toshiba - Portege Laptop / Intel Core i3 Processor / 13.3" Display / 4GB Memory / 640GB Hard Drive - Blue - R835-P50x (at www.bestbuy.com)
[02:11] <jedijf> and they live there...so temperature extremes
[02:11] <mutantturkey> jedijf: right
[02:12] <mikedep334> looks like newegg sold out of the older toshiba R835 model
[02:13] <mikedep334> newegg was selling the one before the HDD controller errata was fixed
[02:13] <mikedep334> http://www.adorama.com/TOR835P56.html?utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Shopping%20Site&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=gbase
[02:13] <PennBot> Title: PT324U-008003 Toshiba Portege R835-P56X 13.3 inch Notebook, Intel Core i5-2410M 2.3GHz Processor, 4GB RAM, 640GB Hard Drive, Windows 7 Home Premium, Blue (at www.adorama.com)
[02:13] <mikedep334> I love how it's only 3.2 lbs
[02:15] <mikedep334> http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Portege-R835-P56x-13-3-Inch-Magnesium/dp/B004G8QOJS
[02:15] <mikedep334> lol
[02:15] <mikedep334> http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/en_US/pd/productID.224539100?WT.mc_id=mercent&mr:trackingCode=DE3AFEE5-7264-E011-BBD9-001517384908&mr:referralID=NA
[02:15] <PennBot> Title: Microsoft Store Online - Toshiba Portege R835 - Buy from Microsoft Store (at www.microsoftstore.com)
[02:16] <mutantturkey> so many links D:
[02:16] <mutantturkey> wait these are all the same..
[02:16] <mikedep334> yeah
[02:16] <mikedep334> this looks like the most common R835 variant
[02:16] <mutantturkey> do you think i should get one?
[02:16] <mikedep334> although I'm not sure about the microsoftstore.com model
[02:16] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, do more research
[02:16] <mikedep334> and price shopping
[02:16] <mikedep334> eg, shopping.google.com
[02:16] <mikedep334> but from what I've seen
[02:16] <mikedep334> it looks awesome
[02:17] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: I don't really know anything about laptops...
[02:17] <mutantturkey> or computers really ( hardware wise)
[02:17] <mikedep334> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=toshiba+r385+linux#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=toshiba+r835+linux&aq=f&aqi=g-b1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a17560d1ef61d5f5&biw=1264&bih=1287
[02:17] <PennBot> Title: toshiba r385 linux - Google Search (at www.google.com)
[02:17] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, ok, read the user reviews on amazon
[02:17] <jedijf> mutantturkey: newegg has a lenovo i7 for 800
[02:17] <mikedep334> and make what you can out of the hardware specs
[02:17] <mikedep334> just keep in mind
[02:17] <mikedep334> rarely do you find a laptop with a powerful process at only 3.2 lbs
[02:17] <mikedep334> and good battery life
[02:18] <mutantturkey> jedijf: link?
[02:18] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: how good? 8+?
[02:19] <mikedep334> ok, looks like microsoftstore.com is selling the R835-p55x, not the R835-p65x
[02:19] <mikedep334> reportedly, upto 9 hours
[02:19] <mikedep334> lets check the cnet review
[02:19] <mikedep334> http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/portege/R830/R835-P55X/
[02:19] <mikedep334> that's the microsoftstore.com model
[02:20] <mutantturkey> P55 vs P56?
[02:21] <mikedep334> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/toshiba-portege-r835-p56x/4505-3121_7-34449812.html#reviewPage1
[02:21] <PennBot> Title: Toshiba Portege R835-P56X Review - Watch CNET's Video Review (at reviews.cnet.com)
[02:21] <mikedep334> whoops, right
[02:21] <mikedep334> P55 vs P56
[02:21] <mikedep334> "The biggest surprise is the vastly improved battery life, topping 7 hours, and beating even the 13-inch MacBook Pro"
[02:22] <mikedep334> yeah, for a 13.3" laptop or a 3.2 lb laptop to have a regular laptop powerful processor (eg, not a ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage)) CPU and get 7 hours of battery life is unheard of
[02:23] <mikedep334> it even has a dvd burner too
[02:23] <mikedep334> just read the user reviews
[02:23] <mikedep334> on amazon or cnet.com
[02:24] <mikedep334> only thing missing is bluetooth
[02:24] <mikedep334> oh, the 3 different types of USB ports is really nice
[02:24] <jedijf> mutantturkey: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246094
[02:24] <PennBot> Title: Newegg.com - lenovo IdeaPad Y560p 43972AU NoteBook Intel Core i7 2630QM2.00GHz 15.6 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVDRRW AMD Radeon HD 6570M (at www.newegg.com)
[02:25] <mikedep334> jedijf, yeah, that's good if you want a powerhouse, even though it will only get upto 2 to 2.5 hours of real world battery life
[02:26] <mikedep334> the toshiba portege R835 is meant to be a different type of laptop
[02:26] <mikedep334> eg, it's 5.95 lbs
[02:26] <mikedep334> it's also much better at gaming
[02:27] <mutantturkey> I don't game
[02:27] <mutantturkey> I don't like hot craptops
[02:27] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, every quad-core core i7 laptop I believe has to have dedicated graphics
[02:28] <mutantturkey> I don't want a desktop.... I want a laptop.
[02:28] <mikedep334> so they almost always have better graphics
[02:28] <mikedep334> yeah
[02:28] <jedijf> mutantturkey: i would go to microcenter and 'feel' different brands so you have an idea what to expect even if you online a different model
[02:28] <mutantturkey> if i wanted a quad core, i would get a desktop
[02:28] <mikedep334> that ideapad is a true "desktop replacement"
[02:28] <mutantturkey> jedijf: you are a microcenter fan too? my friend raves about them
[02:28] <jedijf> mutantturkey: best thing evar
[02:28] <jedijf> and they sell bawls
[02:29] <jedijf> and caffeinated candy bars
[02:29] <mutantturkey> oh shucks
[02:29] <mutantturkey> better go there
[02:29] <mutantturkey> are the clocks relevant anymore?
[02:29] <jedijf> 476 south--villanova exit---left at the bottom of ramp - left at 2nd light
[02:30] <mutantturkey> villanova? nice.
[02:30] <mutantturkey> probably will head up this weekend
[02:30] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, the best buy at KoP, next to the mall, has the best buy variant of the toshiba R835
[02:30] <mikedep334> they also have TONS of laptops
[02:30] <mikedep334> in general
[02:31] <mutantturkey> I don't like best buy
[02:31] <mutantturkey> call me crazy, call me what you will. But I HATE it there.
[02:31] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, ok, fair enough
[02:31] <jedijf> use them to see/feel product
[02:31] <mutantturkey>  I go in asking a few technical questions, they pretend like I don't know what I am looking for.
[02:31] <jedijf> and then get a gino giant
[02:31] <mutantturkey> "oh you must be looking for a $9000 laptop"
[02:31] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: what do you think of the i5's?
[02:32] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, like 67% of the laptops at best buy are under $500
[02:32] <jedijf> rmg51: you have an i7 right?
[02:32] <rmg51> yep
[02:32] <mikedep334> I have a quad-core core i5 in my desktop
[02:32] <rmg51> 720m
[02:32] <mikedep334> the 1st gen of them
[02:32] <mikedep334> the i5-750
[02:32] <mikedep334> I love it
[02:33] <mikedep334> but the sandy bridge models are a large improvement for the dual core variants
[02:34] <mikedep334> and the amount of performance they offer per mhz/core is huge
[02:34] <mikedep334> also
[02:34] <mutantturkey> so I should get one of the newer ones?
[02:34] <mikedep334> i5's have "turboboost"
[02:34] <mutantturkey> DUMB.
[02:34] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, assuming it will run ArchLinux well, yes
[02:34] <jedijf> mutantturkey: too nice hardware may conflict with the "Arch Way"....
[02:35] <mutantturkey> jedijf: not suprisingly, I find that most of them use relatively poweful hardware
[02:35] <mikedep334> when only 1 core is in use, it overclocks it
[02:35]  * jedijf checks the credo
[02:35] <mutantturkey> the Arch way, while nice in concept boils down to one this "It better just damned work, however I want it"
[02:35] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: yeah, most stuff is written for multicore anyways in linux
[02:36] <mikedep334> yeah
[02:36] <mikedep334> also
[02:36] <mikedep334> the dual-core core i5's always have "hyper-threading"
[02:36] <mutantturkey> anyway my parents are getting me a laptop for college, so they said 800 bucks + anything i can add on, and that's my christmas and birthday.
[02:36] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: hyperthreading. LOL
[02:36] <mutantturkey> well actually, on my intel atom it's like a 20% performance boost when i use it
[02:37] <mikedep334> mutantturkey, yup
[02:37] <mikedep334> I compiled a kernel on my fraternity brother's netbook
[02:37] <mikedep334> it was like 20% faster
[02:37] <mikedep334> with make -j2
[02:37] <mutantturkey> yeah exactly.
[02:37] <mutantturkey> use -j4
[02:37] <mutantturkey> why -j2?
[02:37] <mutantturkey> or -j3
[02:37] <mikedep334> his netbook only had 1 physical core
[02:38] <mikedep334> -j2 offered about the same performance as -j3
[02:38] <mutantturkey> oh.
[02:38] <mikedep334> it was hard to tell
[02:38] <mutantturkey> mine is a desktop 330
[02:38] <mutantturkey> so i have dual + ht
[02:38] <mutantturkey> i do -j3 so I have one core to browse+ music whatever.
[02:38] <mikedep334> reportedly you should use 1 more job than logical cores you have
[02:38] <mikedep334> some say to even use twice as many jobs
[02:39] <mutantturkey> oh really?
[02:39] <mutantturkey> I always heard, one less than.
[02:39] <mikedep334> at least the number of cores you have
[02:39] <mutantturkey> anyway, on an Atom, it's all a joke.
[02:39] <jedijf> mutantturkey: where you going to college?
[02:39] <mutantturkey> but, compile the kernel in a ramfs and that's a nice speedup
[02:39] <mikedep334> an easy benchmark is the linux kernel with "allnoconfig"
[02:40] <mutantturkey> jedijf: montco still for now, but I am getting a job at drexel working for a professor for a comp sci project all summer
[02:40] <mutantturkey> montco again till the spring, then temple in the fall probably.
[02:40] <mikedep334> that way it compiles a more reasonable amount of the kernel
[02:40] <jedijf> mutantturkey: nice
[02:41] <mutantturkey> mikedep334: I have an extensivly modified kernel
[02:41] <mutantturkey> no autoload modules or anything,
[02:41] <mutantturkey> autoload is dumb.
[02:41] <mutantturkey> I mean, it's nice, except that It re-figures out what you have every time
[02:41] <mutantturkey> they should cache it, then if you have some new hardware, you can manually load it.
[02:41] <mutantturkey> the overhead is a few seconds  of wasted life
[02:42] <mikedep334> yeah
[02:42] <mutantturkey> anyway.
[02:42] <mutantturkey> jedijf: yeah I am pretty psyched except ridiculously busy.
[02:43] <jedijf> mutantturkey: welcome to adulthood
[02:43] <jedijf> 'ish
[02:43] <mutantturkey> so that's going to be 2 jobs, both with like 25+ hours a week, then going to school (summer semster) + music and stuff + girlfriend.
[02:43] <mutantturkey> fml.
[02:44] <jedijf> mutantturkey: i would use next weekend to go to kop best buy and microcenter just to get a feel for what hardware is out there...the builds, the kb's ...the 'feel' stuff , then research online
[02:45] <mutantturkey> are there any aluminum cases for laptops? like mac's or anything
[02:47] <mutantturkey_> dumb dunkin wifi....
[02:48] <mutantturkey_> jedijf: yeah I just need to get a feel for it
[02:49] <jedijf> mutantturkey_: one of my hangups with 'real' laptops is the touchpad landing area...i seem to prefer the netbook form factor of that layout
[02:50] <jedijf> so, take your time...you end up living with it for a while
[02:50] <mutantturkey_> I am not crazy about touch pads, I am oriented towards keyboard
[02:52] <jedijf> i think that's why i love the old tp's...the eraserhead
[02:52] <jedijf> no touchpads
[02:52] <mutantturkey_> eraserheads <3
[02:56] <jedijf> after all that...almost every dev I know is macbook'd up
[02:57] <mutantturkey_> blech
[02:57] <jedijf> just sayin'..you may want to throw 200 into it and get where you're gonna end up eventually anyway
[02:57] <mutantturkey_> I Looked at it seriously
[02:57] <mutantturkey_> I know, but I love linux
[02:57] <mutantturkey_> how is dual booting on it?
[02:57] <jedijf> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook
[02:57] <PennBot> Title: MacBook - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[02:57] <mutantturkey_> also they are 1) not powerful 2) way to expensive for what you get 3) hipster
[02:58] <mutantturkey_> I mean that looks legit
[02:58] <mutantturkey_> the price is not justified.
[02:58] <jedijf> microcenter has them..look and keep an open mind
[02:58] <jedijf> it is uncanny how, like i said, everyone is suing them
[02:58] <jedijf> s/suing/using
[02:58] <mutantturkey_> I will take a look and such.
[02:59] <jedijf> me and freud..linux forever
[02:59] <mutantturkey_> I am a linux guy also, you know that.
[02:59] <mutantturkey_> mac's hardware is nicely laid out, i wish other vendors would switch to similar styles
[03:01] <jedijf> i think the variation in price is justified by the level of service available to you...
[03:01] <mutantturkey_> do you think?
[03:01] <jedijf> have to give the devil his due
[03:01] <mutantturkey_> also for the fact that I am strongly interested in audio production
[03:02] <mutantturkey_> how is the mac hardware though?
[03:02] <jedijf> they go to those apple stores and always leave satisfied
[03:02] <jedijf> we always say they're underpowered, but in the end, they perform
[03:03] <jedijf> andrew: you around? your opinion would be appreciated
[03:06] <mutantturkey_> I am also looking for a laptop that will last
[03:06] <mutantturkey_> I do not get the impression with macs...
[03:06] <mutantturkey_> I feel like they get dated very quickly
[03:10] <jedijf> i just wanted to be fair....ultimately, all of your personal factors will be part of this decision, but you should give it a look, even if only for research
[03:10] <mutantturkey_> right of course
[03:12] <jedijf> yeah, the last dev i polled is a mac user too....it's 100%
[03:13] <jedijf> 22:04 <@jedijf> erikh: you use a mac?
[03:13] <jedijf> 22:10 < erikh> yessir
[03:13] <mutantturkey_> haha
[03:13] <jedijf> runy guy ^^^^
[03:13] <jedijf> ruby
[03:13] <jedijf> arch user too
[03:13] <mutantturkey_> exactly
[03:13] <mutantturkey_> I say 75% of arch users are devs, or mess around with coding.
[03:14] <jedijf> i almost pulled the mac trigger(again) a couple of months ago
[03:15]  * jedijf stares at iBook in the corner
[03:16] <jedijf> hmm.....http://www.archlinuxppc.org/
[03:16] <PennBot> Title: Arch Linux PPC (at www.archlinuxppc.org)
[03:18] <jedijf> time to sleep....good luck searching...whatever you decide will be great; it'll be *new*
[03:23] <mutantturkey_> goodnight.
[09:30] <BeckySanderlin_x> \o/ <( Successful OS install )
[10:44] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:47] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:47] <JonathanD> how goes?
[10:51] <rmg51> slowly
[10:52] <rmg51> we don't have any hot water :-(
[10:52] <rmg51> since yesterday :-/
[10:52] <rmg51> cold showers aren't any fun
[10:53] <JonathanD> oh dear.
[10:53] <JonathanD> sure they are, when it's this hot
[10:54] <rmg51> try it
[10:54] <rmg51> it's not fun
[12:12] <andrew> jedijf: I am now...
[15:11]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[15:54]  * InHisName yawns too
[15:56] <andrew> damnit, so did I
[16:34] <ChinnoDog> hi BeckySanderlin_x
[16:35] <BeckySanderlin_x> sec.. configuring new OS install
[16:39] <BeckySanderlin_x> how are you ChinnoDog
[16:40] <BeckySanderlin_x> jackson, are you trying peppermint too?
[16:40] <jackson> i have
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> 2 or 1?
[16:41] <jackson> one
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> oo0o0o
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> you should try Two
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> i just installed it
[16:41] <jackson> ok :)
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> well, i had a liveUSB of it
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> but i cleaned out my HDD and installed it just now
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> quick, simple
[16:41] <BeckySanderlin_x> clean
[16:42] <BeckySanderlin_x> works from the jump
[16:42] <BeckySanderlin_x> and now, its based off of Lubuntu 11.04
[16:42] <BeckySanderlin_x> and im loving it
[16:42] <jackson> ok
[16:43] <ChinnoDog> BeckySanderlin_x: I am good. Working. *sigh*
[16:44] <BeckySanderlin_x> Work on!
[16:44] <BeckySanderlin_x> get the paycheck
[16:44] <ssweeny> work. pfft
[16:44] <BeckySanderlin_x> hallo ssweeny
[16:44] <BeckySanderlin_x> hows you today
[16:44] <teddy-dbear> work is way overrated ;-)
[16:45] <ssweeny> hi BeckySanderlin_x
[16:45] <ssweeny> i's just peachy
[16:45] <BeckySanderlin_x> good
[16:45] <ssweeny> also working but it's really hard for me to complain
[16:45] <BeckySanderlin_x> you guys on at work on the internet. Stop complaining
[16:46] <BeckySanderlin_x> if i was at work on the internets i'd be all like 'weeeeeeeeeeeeee verrroooooooom'
[16:47] <ssweeny> not just that
[16:47] <ssweeny> i work on free software from my house
[16:47] <ssweeny> also on the internet
[16:47] <BeckySanderlin_x> so thats more weeee verroooom's
[16:48] <ssweeny> have to temper the wee verrooms and actually get some work done
[16:48] <BeckySanderlin_x> true..
[16:48] <BeckySanderlin_x> very true
[16:49]  * teddy-dbear has to actually leave the apartment :-/
[16:49] <BeckySanderlin_x> bai
[19:26] <ChinnoDog> I think it is funny that my phone downloads 110mb updates OTA when I still remember waiting 4 hours for an 11mb Warcraft 2 demo to download.
[19:31] <BeckySanderlin_x> ?
[19:31] <ssweeny> warcraft 2?
[19:31] <ssweeny> your download has been going for like 15 years by now
[19:31] <BeckySanderlin_x> why would w2 be 4hrs?
[19:32] <BeckySanderlin_x> what kind of internets do you have?
[19:32] <ssweeny> i think he means when wc2 was out
[19:32] <ssweeny> in 90s
[19:32] <BeckySanderlin_x> ahh
[19:32] <BeckySanderlin_x> back in 56k days i guess
[19:32] <BeckySanderlin_x> Baud!
[19:33] <BeckySanderlin_x> anyways.. back to beating  WINE into submission to make it do my bidding(s).
[19:41] <Sadin> im installing ruby on my Desktop :D
[23:55] <BeckySanderlin_x> Minecraft surpasses 2.5 million in sales, still in beta ( http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/13/minecraft-surpasses-2-5-million-in-sales-still-in-beta/ )
[23:56] <PennBot> Title: Minecraft surpasses 2.5 million in sales, still in beta | Joystiq (at www.joystiq.com)


[01:52] <mup> Bug #2006407 opened: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[01:58] <mup> Bug #2006407 changed: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[02:04] <mup> Bug #2006407 opened: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[02:07] <mup> Bug #2006407 changed: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[02:13] <mup> Bug #2006407 opened: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[02:22] <mup> Bug #2006407 changed: After adding multiple ips on the same NIC, order in zone file is chaning. <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006407>
[04:43] <mup> Bug #1801420 changed: Deployment fails if install_kvm=true and user_data blob is passed <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801420>
[18:02] <mup> Bug #2006497 opened: unsupported configuration in virsh command <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006497>
[18:08] <mup> Bug #2006497 changed: unsupported configuration in virsh command <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006497>
[18:14] <mup> Bug #2006497 opened: unsupported configuration in virsh command <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2006497>