[02:36] <fsapo> theine, i dont even remember that i have to connect the pc... i dont like rebooting it :)
[02:37] <queuetue> Is Arnia a op or a ubuntu project leader or something?  (s)he is beating up a little bit in provate because I appear to be snide, and I can't tell if it's a threat or not.
[02:37] <REWind> rrfsh, as I told you... if you can't find someone with more experaince about modems and Nokia phones you'll most likely need to do some resuch yourself. I know it is hard when you are a beginner, but it is very rewardable when you succed! And alonge the way you must ask for help! Have you tried google yet?
[02:38] <ricky_ubuntu> gotta go. have a wonderful ubuntu day...
[02:38] <rrfsh> rewind yes
[02:38] <ErikHK> is alsa compiled to the kernel in Ubuntu??
[02:38] <cavediver> ErikHK: yes.
[02:39] <REWind> rrfsh, did you get anything that helped?
[02:39] <bob2> ErikHK: no, it's modular
[02:39] <ErikHK> huh?
[02:39] <rrfsh> rewind i going to see
[02:39] <rrfsh> thanks
[02:40] <bob2> ErikHK: no, it's not compiled into the kernel
[02:40] <rrfsh> rewind and i will tell u after will see
[02:40] <bob2> ErikHK: it's included as modules with the default kernel, tho
[02:40] <theine> fsapo: so it seems that the live-cd includes pppoeconf
[02:40] <REWind> rrfsh, okay! I need to do some wash up now, and do some studies!
[02:40] <ErikHK> oh, ok
[02:40] <david> Sorry to bother anyone, and I know the chances of the awnser being no, but can you install ubuntu off the live cd like you can knoppix?
[02:40] <bob2> david: nope
[02:40] <david> Thanks, just asking.
[02:41] <david> Like that Iknow to get the install CD after the live that's downloading atm
[02:43] <catfox> hi all, i'm trying to add one of my home directories to sama, using the "Shared Folders" tool, but when i browse to "Windows Network" the folder doesn't show up.
[02:43] <Arnia> queuetue: I was talking to you in private conversation because I was being polite. I felt you were being more hostile than was warranted but I didn't want my comments to reflect unnecessarily badly on you here.
[02:43] <catfox> any other steps i need to take to accomplish this?
[02:44] <mlh> hoary is only giving me 640x480 @ 60Hz ... any ideas?  video card is onboard intel on a compaq/hp evo 2Ghz
[02:45] <tkz> mhy:  check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:46] <Sp4rKy> hi
[02:46] <satchmo> lo
[02:47] <catfox> no ideas, anyone?
[02:47] <GhostFreeman> is it possible to remove KDE after it's been installed using Synaptic?
[02:47] <mlh> tkz: yeah, i just thought there'd be some well-know prob ... i know how to config X.
[02:48] <Bazzi> GhostFreeman yes.
[02:48] <GhostFreeman> ok
[02:49] <queuetue> Does anyone know if Arnia ia an op or a ubuntu project leader?  The private discussion but my behavior continues...
[02:49] <catfox> GhostFreeman, just use synaptic to remove it again
[02:50] <GhostFreeman> ok
[02:50] <bob2> queuetue: arnia is not a channel op
[02:50] <Arnia> queuetue: I am neither
[02:50] <bob2> nor involved in ubuntu afaik
[02:50] <Arnia> Nor have I ever claimed otherwise
[02:51] <queuetue> Ok, just had to know so I knew how much I had to keep the kid gloves on. :)
[02:51] <tkz> mlh:  oh, ok... just installed hoary myself and was bit confused with this xorg-thing at first
[02:51] <bob2> if you guys want to argue, please keep it off-channel
[02:51] <bob2> and someone's op-ness should not be relevant to your opinion of their behaviour
[02:51] <Arnia> bob2: That was entirely why I didn't say anything on here to start with
[02:52] <bob2> thanks
[02:52] <Arnia> As I said... I don't want people to be unfairly judged for a minor transgression
[02:52] <Arnia> (in my opinion I hasten to add)
[02:52] <GhostFreeman> If you think someone's rank on the server matters more than their will to help you, get out
[02:53] <cavediver> I need someone to confirm it their mkisofs is broken in regards to create dvd-images.
[02:53] <negatory> Is anyone using ubuntu x86_64 for games with a PCI-Express card?Can you please tell your glxgears benchmark?Please private me
[02:53] <bob2> cavediver: you'd need to explain the potetental problem...
[02:54] <catfox> where's the right place to put system-wide environment vars? /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile?
[02:54] <Bazzi> "please cyber me" :(
[02:54] <bob2> catfox: depends what you're trying to do
[02:54] <bob2> catfox: /etc/environment might be more approriate
[02:54] <catfox> bob2, $java_home
[02:54] <catfox> and $PATH
[02:54] <bob2> the latter then
[02:54] <catfox> righto, cheers
[02:54] <cavediver> bob2: The -dvd-video option seems non-functional.
[02:55] <catfox> bob2, the latter meaning /etc/environment?
[02:55] <catfox> :)
[02:55] <bob2> catfox: yes
[02:55] <cavediver> bob2: When creating an iso image out of video_ts directory
[02:55] <bob2> but note you can't do things like PATH=/usr/blah:$PATH, iirc
[02:55] <ogra> cavediver, mkisofs doent create dvd images, you need to use growisofs for that (and have enough tmp space indeed)
[02:56] <smo> cavediver: I point it at the directory above video_ts, and it doesn't complain  (you point it at the directory which will become the root of the filesystem .. video_ts should appear below that)
[02:56] <CyberSDF> Hello !
[02:56] <catfox> bob2, how do you re-read the /etc/profile file, it's not as simple as source /etc...
[02:56] <Arnia> hello :)
[02:57] <ogra> cavediver, growisofs is in the dvd+rw-tools package
[02:57] <bob2> catfox: you mean /etc/environment? log out and in again
[02:57] <ErikHK> alsaconf doesnt give me anything in root terminal in latest ubuntu,why?
[02:57] <catfox> bob2, no way of doing it from the command line, like when editing the bash.bashrc? (source /etc/bash.bashrc)
[02:57] <CyberSDF> What is the diffrence with .../hoary and .../hoary-update ?
[02:58] <bob2> ErikHK: why do you want to run that?
[02:58] <bob2> CyberSDF: the latter gets updates, ie new versions of packages to fix bugs
[02:58] <ErikHK> to set up my soundcard that doesnt work
[02:58] <bob2> catfox: well, 'source /etc/environment' will update for the terminal you're in
[02:58] <black_Nightmare> hey :p
[02:59] <Jefis> why i can't edit my menu anymore, it doesn't save
[02:59] <catfox> right, cheers
[02:59] <Jefis> :)
[02:59] <bob2> catfox: but it's not possible to change it for all your running programs
[02:59] <CyberSDF> bob2, is better to have the 2 directory in the sources.list ?
[02:59] <l33rapod> hello folks!
[02:59] <bob2> CyberSDF: er, you want both if you want hoary and updates to it...
[03:00] <CyberSDF> right.
[03:00] <cavediver> Can one add breezy in the sources.list by the way ?
[03:00] <l33rapod> where could i find list of supported languages in ubuntu?
[03:00] <CyberSDF> And another question: what the name of ubuntu developpement version now ? :)
[03:01] <black_Nightmare> hoary I think :p
[03:01] <cavediver> CyberSDF: Breezy
[03:01] <smo> cavediver: it doesn't exist in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ .. so I presume not (yet)
[03:01] <cavediver> ok
[03:01] <bob2> dudes
[03:01] <bob2> hoary came out < 48 hours ago
[03:01] <Bazzi> :)
[03:01] <bob2> just chill out for the weekend at least
[03:01] <CyberSDF> cavediver, thanks :)
[03:01] <Bazzi> the devs take their well deserved braks now
[03:01] <Bazzi> *breaks
[03:02] <penguin42> well hoary has survived on my machine for the night (gnome-terminal hasn't - konsole has taken over!)
[03:02] <cavediver> bob2: hey, that's 48 hours ago. We want the bleeding edge :=)
[03:02] <black_Nightmare> you're crazy cavediver
[03:02] <cavediver> Just kidding you know :=)
[03:02] <penguin42> Has anyone had problems during the install with an error about the partitioning program not having mounted anything on /target - I can't see any bug reports on it - but wanted to know what to report it against and what details would be useful
[03:03] <cavediver> Actually, they need a few days off...
[03:03] <black_Nightmare> that reminds me...
[03:03] <black_Nightmare> does ubuntu only have 'one installs all' or is there an installion customize option?
[03:04] <queuetue> Actually, it is mysteriously quiet on the apt-get front.  Maybe they are all taking a few days off. :)
[03:04] <smo> queuetue: That's pretty much the definition of a release.  It's meant to go quiet now :)
[03:04] <bob2> black_Nightmare: of course it's customisable
[03:04] <bob2> black_Nightmare: but there's usually no point, just change the defauls after the install is done
[03:05] <black_Nightmare> bob2 what if I was wanting to just like put a somewhat-bare installion on smaller hd?
[03:05] <black_Nightmare> thats why I was asking
[03:05] <penguin42> black_Nightmare: I seem to remember there was a minimal install option for servers and the like
[03:05] <queuetue> smo, I know, I know, but .. something feels wrong when I run an update and there's nothing waiting for me.  It makes my coffee taste funny or something. :)
[03:05] <bob2> black_Nightmare: sure, look at the help screens at the very first installer screen (ie the boot: promopt)
[03:05] <brrrt> please, how can i have gnome saving my numlock status or have it default to on when i logon
[03:05] <brrrt> ?
[03:06] <nachtwind> is there someone who might tell me how to logon into a domain with ubuntu?
[03:06] <black_Nightmare> bob2...hmm ty
[03:06] <penguin42> nachtwind: What type of domain - you mean windows domain, or NIS/yellow pages domain or .... ?
[03:07] <nachtwind> i have a Samba running the PDC - so i think it is a windows like domain.
[03:07] <nachtwind> Our windows clients can logon and have roaming profiles
[03:07] <nachtwind> but i dont know how to logon with linux
[03:07] <nachtwind> espeacially ubuntu
[03:07] <penguin42> nachtwind: I've never done it - but I think there is a thing to do it; I'd hunt down stuff about PAM that does the login/authentication stuff
[03:08] <black_Nightmare> its just that early powerbooks have either scsi or a small ide hd...anyway
[03:08] <penguin42> black_Nightmare: They had scsi internal laptop discs?! Wow - those got rare yonks ago
[03:09] <black_Nightmare> penguin...well...thats actually the 68k ones :p
[03:09] <black_Nightmare> ppc one were all ide as far as I know...might be wrong thou
[03:09] <ErikHK> but why doesnt the alsatools work, such as alsamixer and so on???
[03:09] <penguin42> black_Nightmare: Oh you meant **early** ones
[03:09] <nachtwind> penguin42, pam... any idead where to start?
[03:09] <black_Nightmare> several models had strange ide-hd-on-scsi-adapter setup thou
[03:10] <penguin42> nachtwind: Nope - you could try looking for a pam howto
[03:10] <penguin42> nachtwind: I wonder if the package 'libpam-smbpass    - pluggable authentication module for SMB password database' might be what you are looking for; but you probably want to ask a samba person
[03:10] <black_Nightmare> you know....
[03:11] <black_Nightmare> sometimes I wonder if linux is really even for older machines at all..considering how much hd space they always need
[03:11] <REWind> Can anyone tell why this message is poping up?
[03:11] <REWind> kernel: VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev hda3.
[03:11] <black_Nightmare> system 7 = only uses several mb of hd space and 1mb of ram ... for that example :p
[03:11] <REWind> kernel: ReiserFS: hda3: found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard journal
[03:11] <REWind> in my startup sequence?
[03:11] <Rene_S> Interesting, Americas Army fails to install on Hoary now, something about glibc-2.1
[03:11] <REWind> I'm thinking of the VFS fault
[03:12] <bob2> REWind: it's nothing, ignore it
[03:12] <ErikHK> Debian can take round 70 MB :)
[03:12] <bob2> REWind: (it's the kernel trying to guess your root filesystem type)
[03:12] <black_Nightmare> erik...really?  where...how....hehe
[03:13] <ErikHK> but nothing works then :P
[03:13] <black_Nightmare> :p
[03:13] <black_Nightmare> 68030/25 @ 80mb scsi @ 4mb ram
[03:13] <REWind> bob2, I know it's nothing iin the sense that the performance is the same. But why is this error only with kernel image Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-386 and not the 2.6.10-4 one?
[03:13] <ErikHK> hehe
[03:13] <black_Nightmare> thats my one powerbook here
[03:13] <black_Nightmare> :p
[03:14] <REWind> bob2, is it because the compilation of the kernel is different?
[03:15] <ErikHK> why doesnt alsaconf work in latest Ubuntu?? :S
[03:15] <brrrt> Rene_S: what a luck!
[03:16] <penguin42> black_Nightmare: Its quite hard to put something on a machine that small - certainly I wouldn't try with a normal distro; your best bet is to look for things designed for embedded things like routers - they have similar specs to that machine :-)
[03:16] <Rene_S> brrrt, I am sure I'll figure out what happened
[03:16] <bob2> REWind: guess it's the random order the modules get loaded and tried
[03:16] <bob2> ErikHK: you don't need it
[03:16] <bob2> ErikHK: if your sound isn't working, something else is wrong
[03:17] <ErikHK> hmm...
[03:17] <brrrt> Rene_S: your machine now belongs to AA ;) thats what happened
[03:17] <xukun_> I,m trying to whatch some video online but al I see is a dark screen, what do I need to install so I can able to whacht this?
[03:17] <ErikHK> it doesnt show up in lspci
[03:17] <black_Nightmare> penguin..or just use the mac os :p
[03:17] <penguin42> black_Nightmare: Well yeh
[03:17] <black_Nightmare> system 7 installs with lot of space and some ram left here
[03:17] <black_Nightmare> :p
[03:18] <bob2> ErikHK: if it's ISA, you'll have a lot more pain trying to get it to work
[03:18] <bob2> xukun_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:19] <REWind> bob2, you mean random in compiling, because it's no random in behaivor when you compare the 10-4 and 10-5 kernel in boot up. It's no major thing, just interesting to know why and perhapse to alert the guy missing that extra module ore whatever is missing/causing the behaivor.
[03:19] <ErikHK> bob2: it is ISA :D
[03:19] <the_grey_ghost> Yea I have never been able to get my isa card to work. Honestly it is next to impossible.
[03:19] <bob2> ErikHK: then you have to do a lot of playing around to get your sound card module to load
[03:19] <ErikHK> fuck
[03:20] <black_Nightmare> you'll wonder about this: 98se picks up the isa sound card just fine and shows it as PnP for some reason .. but ubuntu still has not even at LEAST detect the card
[03:20] <bob2> that should be all you have to do, tho
[03:20] <smo> black_Nightmare: off-topic, but I put slackware 3.3 onto a similar machine.  (16MHz, 3Mb, 37Mb hdd). main trick was to use two floppy drives for the install, so you don't need a ramdisk
[03:20] <black_Nightmare> strange isn't it??
[03:20] <xukun_> bob2, thanks
[03:20] <black_Nightmare> :p
[03:20] <bob2> black_Nightmare: sure it can detect the card
[03:20] <bob2> black_Nightmare: run pnpdump
[03:20] <brrrt> the_grey_ghost: weren't the ISA problems 99% IRQ problems ?
[03:20] <black_Nightmare> smo....seriously? damn....hmmm....thats quite smaller than me :p
[03:20] <bob2> REWind: the kernel keeps throwing modules at the partition until one sticks, afaik the order it tries is random
[03:21] <Rene_S> Time to reinstall Warty
[03:21] <bob2> REWind: I don't think it's anything to worry about or report, unless something doesn't work
[03:21] <the_grey_ghost> brrrt I honestly do not think so. As I have no IRQ conflicts.
[03:21] <Enspyron> I have downloaded the menu editor. Is is also possible to add drop down menus next to applications, system and places?
[03:22] <Cspnic1> who have install ksirk?
[03:22] <brrrt> the_grey_ghost: sorry, just a thought, im no expert in ISA
[03:22] <bob2> do you mean "ksirc"?
[03:22] <Cspnic1> no
[03:22] <Cspnic1> a game for kde
[03:22] <RealKillaz> hello guys I just finished installing the basic configuration of ubuntu
[03:23] <RealKillaz> "server" option
[03:23] <RealKillaz> I would like to make this a web-server...
[03:23] <Enspyron> is it possible to add customized drop down menus next to applications, system and places?
[03:23] <RealKillaz> just type apt-get install apache... and it will install mysql etc too
[03:23] <lizardking> hello
[03:24] <lizardking> some help for me?
[03:24] <REWind> bob2, thanks! But may I bother you with another harmless behaivor thing. Told it to Arnia  before, but I have three partions. Witch one is a windows and the other is a linux partion. Both I've configurated as "user" and then it will get the behaivor that it will pop up as any other usb memory stick or Cdrom on my desktop, and that it will be mounted as a seperate disk in the "Computer" place. But the poping up part only happens now and the
[03:24] <REWind> n. how come?
[03:24] <lizardking> I have some problem wih hoary update
[03:24] <bob2> Enspyron: no
[03:24] <Enspyron> realkillaz, I installed apache, how do I activate it?
[03:24] <bob2> RealKillaz: so, install apache2 and mysql-server
[03:25] <black_Nightmare> one interesting question...
[03:25] <lizardking> I have some problem wih hoary update some help?
[03:25] <the_grey_ghost> bob2 pnpdump? is that a package?
[03:25] <black_Nightmare> anyone have a system with only xfree installed?  (no gui/etc yeah)
[03:25] <bob2> the_grey_ghost: it's a program
[03:25] <bob2> lizardking: you need to ask a question first...
[03:25] <lizardking> ok
[03:25] <bob2> REWind: I don't know, sorry
[03:25] <the_grey_ghost> where is it and how do I install it
[03:25] <bob2> the_grey_ghost: same way you install anything else
[03:25] <lizardking> yes I am now in hoary
[03:25] <lizardking> but...
[03:25] <bob2> the_grey_ghost: apt-cache search pnpdump
[03:26] <lizardking> i have some problem...
[03:26] <lizardking> I have follow the upgrade
[03:26] <lizardking> how to
[03:26] <RealKillaz> bob2, if I dont know the name of the package precisely.. how can I check with apt what the name is?
[03:26] <the_grey_ghost> I did a apt-get install pnpdump and no luck? Is it native to ubuntu?
[03:26] <brrrt> apt-get remove problem
[03:26] <lizardking> warty to hoary
[03:26] <bob2> RealKillaz: apt-cache search blah
[03:26] <brrrt> ;)
[03:26] <lizardking> hehe
[03:26] <the_grey_ghost> Real sudo aptitude search <package name>
[03:26] <RealKillaz> bob2, thnx
[03:26] <bob2> brrrt: you need to give a ton more detail
[03:26] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25474
[03:27] <brrrt> i am sorry jzust a joke
[03:27] <lizardking> i have this problems..
[03:27] <REWind> bob2, no worries! As I told you, it's no major thing. But should I report that or can I consider the "problem"/behaivor beeing noted by someone and worked with when time allows?
[03:27] <vio_> hi, i'm running ubuntu 5.04. what's the command to shut down X? i tried init 3 but i won't work
[03:27] <vio_> any ideas?
[03:27] <bob2> the_grey_ghost: no, it's not ubuntu-specific, but I have no idea what package it's in
[03:27] <bob2> vio_: "shut down X"?
[03:27] <lizardking> some idea?
[03:27] <bob2> REWind: if it's intermittently broken, yeah, file a bug
[03:27] <vio_> yeah i want to install the binary nvidia driver
[03:28] <brrrt> you should instal the nvidia driver from source
[03:28] <bob2> vio_: then, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <bob2> brrrt: why should someone do that?
[03:28] <zenfoo> ubuntu-fr
[03:28] <HKSDU> I have a question.  If I have a tiny size of linux partition that has a tiny size of kernel and a firewall, I want it to install on a computer that has no disk, do I install this linux on a floppy, put Ramdisk in kernel parameter, set the Ramdisk mount partition to the linux partition?
[03:28] <vio_> ok bob2
[03:28] <vio_> but how can i shut down X?
[03:28] <lizardking> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25474
[03:28] <bob2> vio_: you don't need to
[03:28] <brrrt> bob2: sorry i shut up now
[03:28] <penguin42> HKSDU: There are special small installations designed for that type of thing
[03:28] <bob2> HKSDU: try asking in #leaf or something, that's complicated and not related to ubuntu
[03:28] <shivy> Im really having trouble with the ATI drivers ./.. Should I compile a new kernel first ?
[03:29] <brrrt> bob2: i do it and its very easy
[03:29] <shivy> And then install the drivers ?
[03:29] <queuetue> #leaf?
[03:29] <lizardking> thank you for help
[03:29] <bob2> shivy:  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <HKSDU> thanks
[03:30] <HKSDU> is there any general linux channel on freenode that I can ask this question?
[03:30] <vio_> but bob2.. thats a general question
[03:30] <vio_> it should be possible to shut down X
[03:30] <bob2> vio_: sure
[03:30] <bob2> vio_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[03:30] <vio_> ok
[03:30] <bob2> vio_: but it's not something  you're ever likely to need to dp
[03:30] <eugenesan> hi all, is there any mini-cd or netinst version of ubuntu install?
[03:31] <accuser> shivy, what seems to be the problem?
[03:32] <penguin42> (kind of related to eugenesan's question) can you install ubuntu with debootstrap or similar from another distro?
[03:32] <bob2> yes
[03:33] <penguin42> bob2: Ah cool - I've used that to get me out of holes on machines with Debian where the kernel wouldn't boot it
[03:33] <Shufla> hello :)
[03:33] <penguin42> hi
[03:35] <RealKillaz> is there some kind of howto where I can get help for installing/configuring network settings?
[03:35] <bob2> man 5 interfaces
[03:35] <bob2> edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:35] <shivy> accuser its still on MESA
[03:36] <HappyPills> oooh... freebsd is tricky to configure... really makes me want to go back to ubuntu
[03:36] <penguin42> RealKillaz: System->Administration>Network settings seems to work for most basic things
[03:36] <shivy> i dont seem to have /proc/pci
[03:36] <shivy> where is it ?
[03:37] <penguin42> shivy: It is something you can configure in or out in the kernel
[03:37] <penguin42> shivy: Use lspci to get the same info
[03:37] <shivy> thanx
[03:37] <RealKillaz> bob2, sudo edit /etc/network/interfacs give me some mime thing error
[03:37] <ctd> pont: wonderful bug, isn't it.
[03:38] <pont> ctd, Dosn't work then ?
[03:39] <bob2> RealKillaz: then use nano or something
[03:39] <RealKillaz> no "edit" mailcap rules found for type
[03:39] <bob2> RealKillaz: whatever editor you normally use
[03:39] <ctd> pont: nope.
[03:39] <bob2> "edit" is a verb, not a program ;)
[03:39] <ctd> pont: you'll have to hold down the power button till it turns off
[03:39] <ctd> pont: and reboot it
[03:39] <pont> ctd, Hmm, does anyone know why ?
[03:39] <penguin42> bob2: Wrong, /usr/bin/edit
[03:40] <RealKillaz> bob2.. ah :D
[03:40] <RealKillaz> Im trying to install joe, but no luck
[03:40] <REWind> bob2, found the bug, called 7616 and they are working on it.. just need to wait then I suppose..
[03:40] <bob2> penguin42: "when I write edit, I mean it as a verb, not a program"
[03:40] <penguin42> RealKillaz: nano should be installed
[03:40] <penguin42> bob2: Ah....
[03:41] <pont> ctd, found this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2368.html
[03:41] <RealKillaz> never used nano.... but lemme try it
[03:41] <penguin42> RealKillaz: It's pretty easy to use
[03:41] <sdogi> where does gnome-panel store its settings? i have to reset it to default but i'm unable to do it
[03:41] <sdogi> i deleted all those .gnome dirs in my home folder
[03:42] <penguin42> sdogi: Try .gnome2/panel2.d
[03:42] <sdogi> deleted that
[03:42] <kbrooks> oh
[03:42] <sdogi> doesn't help
[03:42] <kbrooks> penguin42, *all*
[03:42] <andrewski> why the heck can't you have kvim and gvim installed at the same time?!
[03:42] <Smeven> is there a gtk-demos package?
[03:43] <penguin42> kbrooks: Pardon?
[03:43] <RealKillaz> penguin4, you're right.....
[03:43] <blacking> hello guys
[03:43] <andrewski> Smeven: what are you looking for?
[03:43] <blacking> small help..
[03:43] <sdogi> it is like, no matter what i do this panel still appears back like i set it
[03:43] <kbrooks> andrewski, because kvim is default. you need to setup vim gui to be gvim
[03:43] <sdogi> and there is like some applet that is crashing it
[03:43] <blacking> someone kno as install ubuntu inside a pen drive?
[03:43] <andrewski> kbrooks: yes, but why can't both coexist?
[03:43] <Smeven> andrewski: the gtk-demos package?
[03:43] <Smeven> ?=.
[03:44] <kbrooks> andrewski, hmmm, ask #kde
[03:44] <sdogi> i guess i'll have to reinstall gnome
[03:44] <kbrooks> sdogi, no
[03:44] <andrewski> kbrooks: no, don't think it's a kde problem.  i could do that in gentoo.
[03:44] <kbrooks> reinstall gnome-applets
[03:44] <andrewski> Smeven: yes, but why?
[03:44] <Shufla> are there any t-shirts with ubuntu logo and website address? i'm able to make some t-shirts, and i would happy to "authorize" them by Canonical. who should I ask? :D
[03:44] <Smeven> nevermind
[03:45] <Shufla> (we are already making some t-shirts for some friends to propagate ubuntu spirit)
[03:45] <blacking> i would like to make this, for my work..
[03:45] <Smeven> people are so unhelpful sometimes
[03:45] <sdogi> kbrooks: will try
[03:45] <andrewski> Smeven: yes, very sorry i responded.
[03:46] <Smeven> yeah, me too
[03:46] <andrewski> Smeven: if i knew what you were looking for, perhaps i could help.
[03:46] <Smeven> i told you
[03:46] <Enspyron> then tell again
[03:46] <Smeven> but, disregard my messages
[03:46] <sdogi> is the kubuntu thing usable already?
[03:47] <andrewski> Smeven: i didn't.  but obviously there's no gtk-demos package.  do gtk demos exist?
[03:47] <Fator_Dee> Shufla: you write too clearly, drink more
[03:47] <Riddell> sdogi: very much so
[03:47] <Smeven> yes
[03:47] <Smeven> they do
[03:47] <sdogi> that is nice
[03:47] <andrewski> Smeven: ok, can you give a website for reference?  something?
[03:47] <andrewski> Smeven: i can only help if i know what you're talking about. :P
[03:47] <penguin42> andrewski: Try installing the telepathy package
[03:47] <Unipal> can I install Fluxbox in stead of Gnome?
[03:48] <CyberSDF> Why most of package depend of ubuntu-desktop ? Is it *realy* safe to remove it ?
[03:48] <Fator_Dee> CyberSDF: it's just a meta-package
[03:48] <Shufla> Fator_Dee: :D that was very, very heart-painfull weekend :D
[03:48] <HiddenWolf> CyberSDF, as long as you don't dist-upgrade to a new version without it, it is safe
[03:48] <andrewski> penguin42: hmm, it says i'm missing some libraries... :/
[03:49] <Rod> hi
[03:49] <penguin42> andrewski: Ah well if you had it installed then you'd know where to get them
[03:49] <Rod> my internet connection doesnt work in hoary, and I dont know where to start
[03:49] <andrewski> penguin42: damn.
[03:49] <Rod> could you please point me in some directions?
[03:49] <penguin42> Rod: How is your computer connected to the intranet
[03:49] <penguin42> ^ra^er
[03:49] <Rod> penguin42, computer is behind a router
[03:49] <Rod> router is connected with cable internet
[03:49] <CyberSDF> HiddenWolf, Fator_Dee: Thanks
[03:50] <Shufla> i'm reading right now comments on /. about ubuntu 5.04 release. how nice there are :d
[03:50] <penguin42> Rod: And the router is connected to your computer by ethernet ?
[03:50] <Shufla> s/there/they/
[03:50] <Rod> yes penguin42
[03:50] <Unipal> can I install Fluxbox in stead of Gnome?
[03:50] <andrewski> Smeven: anything?
[03:50] <xthepic> Shufla: i just installed ubuntu last night. i switched from mandrake. so far i'm loving it.
[03:50] <Rod> penguin42, in ubuntu i cant see the router neither by typing it's ip in the browser
[03:51] <penguin42> Rod: If you go to System->Administration->Network settings does it show an ethernet connection?
[03:51] <Rod> penguin42, it should work with the forcedeth module
[03:51] <Unipal> Shufla: Why did you switch?
[03:51] <Rod> emm not sure penguin42 ; ill check that one out
[03:51] <Rod> brb, reboot
[03:51] <penguin42> Rod: Or ifconfig if you are more comfortable with that
[03:51] <Rod> ok, both will do, ill write them down
[03:52] <andrewski> Rod: but you can see the router in another distro/OS?
[03:52] <Rod> see you
[03:52] <Rod> andrewski, well im in windows now and it works just fine
[03:52] <Rod> and in gentoo it works ok
[03:52] <penguin42> Rod: The trick will be to compare what gentoo ifconfig says and ubuntu ifconfig says
[03:52] <andrewski> yeah
[03:52] <Shufla> Unipal: to ubuntu? hm. consitent. predictible. debian (which I know well) based. tweakable. supported. and last but least sponsored.
[03:52] <Rod> and during install it doesnt seem to have probs with setting up dhcp
[03:53] <Shufla> i've switched on some machines on 10.2004
[03:53] <linley> installed 5.0.4 today and cannot get sound working  c-media cm8738 ion i386 . Any ideas?
[03:53] <penguin42> linley: Quite a few people are having sound problems
[03:53] <Xgates> I'm trying to run "make menuconfig" to build a kernel, and it says:
[03:53] <Xgates> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[03:53] <Xgates> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[03:54] <Xgates> but apt-get shows nothing for Ncurses
[03:54] <Shufla> linley: 5.04 not 5.0.4.
[03:54] <linley> Penguin- yeah , was working fine in  warty
[03:54] <Xgates> hmm what gives for that then?
[03:54] <blacking> guys does anyone know as installa a small snapshot of ubuntu inside a pen drive?
[03:54] <dos000> anyone knows how to restore a default desktop ?
[03:54] <penguin42> Xgates: Try installing libncurses5-dev
[03:54] <Xgates> penguin42, ok thanks
[03:54] <Shufla> Xgates: apt-cache search curses devel
[03:54] <Unipal> Shufla: I was just looking at Mandrake 10.1. Only for a try.
[03:54] <Xgates> Shufla, thx
[03:55] <andrewski> blacking: source-based distros are better for that as far as i've heard.
[03:55] <Unipal> can I install Fluxbox in stead of Gnome?
[03:55] <hybrid> yes
[03:55] <andrewski> Unipal: sure, just install it in synaptic.
[03:56] <Unipal> synaptic?
[03:56] <andrewski> Unipal: or apt-get
[03:56] <Shufla> Unipal: yes. Adminstration->Add/Remove Programs.
[03:56] <blacking> ok sure, but is it posssible?
[03:56] <penguin42> Unipal: The pretty graphical apt-get front end
[03:56] <Fator_Dee> Unipal: synaptic is a graphic package-manager
[03:57] <Unipal> Okay, I'll try synaptic
[03:57] <Shufla> fisrt time i used ubuntu it was on Pii 400Mhz with 64MBram - serving my dekstop @ work and some file on samba :D
[03:57] <Shufla> Unipal: try sudo synaptic
[03:57] <andrewski> speaking of, why is synaptic not in the gnome menu anymore?!
[03:57] <Unipal> Are there any things to configure much
[03:58] <Shufla> andrewski: it is.
[03:58] <ej> hey, anyone knows how to browse offline with firefox
[03:58] <andrewski> Unipal: well, you could turn on more repositories for more packages.  i don't know which rep it's in.
[03:58] <Shufla> andrewski: there're are more "Top level" menus
[03:59] <Unipal> Is there a wiki for Fluxbox or any instructions?
[03:59] <andrewski> Unipal: see flux's website.
[03:59] <blacking> the official site of ubuntu don't report info how to do..
[03:59] <andrewski> Shufla: hmm, well, the only .desktop file in /usr/share/applications is synaptic-kde.desktop
[04:00] <xthepic> fluxbox is in main, iirc. so it should be pretty stable on ubuntu.
[04:00] <andrewski> blacking: is it possible on any distro or with ubuntu?
[04:00] <blacking> ubuntu
[04:01] <andrewski> blacking: i would assume so.
[04:01] <xthepic> actually no, fluxbox is in universe.
[04:01] <andrewski> blacking: but the lack of a wikipage is kind of discouraging.
[04:01] <andrewski> Unipal: ^^^ you'll have to enable the universe rep.
[04:02] <blacking> why?
[04:02] <Unipal> when I install Fluxbox, is it possible to switch beteween Gnome and FB?
[04:02] <d> Is there a guide for setting up hdparm under Ubuntu anywhere?
[04:02] <andrewski> blacking: well, *i* don't know how to do it.  i'm assuming you don't either.  so you'll need some instructions. :P
[04:02] <andrewski> d: man hdparm.  maybe look at the wiki?
[04:02] <d> Why isn't DMA acceleration on by default?
[04:02] <blacking> oki
[04:03] <d> I've searched the wiki- nothing
[04:03] <andrewski> blacking: and no ubuntu instructions means not likely that you'll get it working with ubuntu. :/
[04:03] <d> ok, somebody mentioned they had to change hdparm.conf but that was it
[04:03] <andrewski> blacking: but, if you get that far, i'd suggest xfce as a DE to put on there.  it's small and awesome.
[04:04] <andrewski> d: yes, you can turn DMA on there.
[04:04] <blacking> probably you have reason..
[04:04] <andrewski> blacking: a reason for my suggestion?
[04:04] <blacking> i think so
[04:04] <d> andrewski: how do I know what setting are optimal for my drives?
[04:04] <rem> hey all ..
[04:05] <andrewski> d: you know, i've never figured that out. :(
[04:05] <rem> does anyone know the default password to access cups ?
[04:05] <rbrt> unipal: it is possible to add an entry to GDM for fluxbox, if that is what you mean.
[04:05] <andrewski> blacking: yes, i said my reason.  it's small and awesome.  and if you're used to gnome, it's right up your alley.
[04:05] <andrewski> blacking: i use xfce as default on my desktop, no less.
[04:05] <rem> its asking for a password and its not the root or any other account ..
[04:05] <rem> ..and i just installed clean hoary
[04:05] <andrewski> d: but at the very least, you could turn on DMA
[04:06] <blacking> gnome it's the best
[04:06] <EddieX> rbrt, Yes it is,
[04:06] <blacking> also xfce good
[04:06] <rbrt> blacking: <3 enlightenment :D
[04:07] <rbrt> dr17 looks very neat :)
[04:07] <EddieX> rbrt, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18626&highlight=blackbox+gdm Do like this for fluxbox :)
[04:07] <Rod> hi
[04:07] <andrewski> Smeven: and you wanted to complain about me being unhelpful?  sheesh.
[04:07] <madsen> Yo!
[04:07] <Rod> ifconfig gave me a lo device and a eth0 device
[04:08] <rbrt> eddiex: I am sorry, I cannot watch it now. I have only a console :P
[04:08] <rbrt> eddiex: I am waiting for my Ubuntu-CD to get down.
[04:08] <rbrt> 15 minutes remaining
[04:08] <Rod> under conncections tab (admin menu) i got this:
[04:08] <rbrt> and then burn it out
[04:08] <rbrt> etc
[04:08] <rbrt> :)
[04:08] <Rod> the interface eth0 is active
[04:08] <madsen> Is there some docs on upgrading from Warty to Hoary somewhere?
[04:08] <Shufla> re
[04:08] <rbrt> I will watch whenever I can :)
[04:08] <Smeven> andrewski: you need to find something more productive to do
[04:08] <d> I only use Linux on my machine, OSS supporter that I am, but I still find myself going to the command prompt and editing text files a lot. Ubuntu and Linux in general is still some way off the ease of use required to match OSX/ XP
[04:08] <Rod> under the dns tab there were 3 IP?
[04:08] <madsen> Or is it just replacing "warty" with "hoary" in sources.list?
[04:08] <Shufla> synaptic is in System->Administraton->Add/Remove programs
[04:08] <Rod> + search domains: venlo1.lb.home.nl (which is ok i guess since i live there)
[04:09] <andrewski> Smeven: like look for gtk demos?
[04:09] <EddieX> rbrt,  :) Ok, well check the ubuntu forums later on, search for "blackbox in gdm"
[04:09] <Shufla> or ->Synaptic package manager
[04:09] <Rod> hosts tab: this gives me a lot of IP6 stuff in it?
[04:09] <whiskers> did anybody get an updated menueditor yet
[04:09] <Rod> ....
[04:09] <andrewski> Rod: that seems ok.  could you see the router?
[04:09] <rem> has anyone ever been able to print on a network printer with ubuntu ?
[04:09] <Rod> no, i could not see it
[04:09] <Shufla> madsen: read update notes on ubuntulinux.org
[04:09] <rbrt> Ubuntu is based upon Debian, was it?
[04:10] <Jerub> rbrt: yes
[04:10] <Shufla> rem: i was. there sometimes problems with windows network administration.
[04:10] <madsen> Shufla: I'm tring to find something there, but I can't...
[04:10] <DanglyBits> ubuntu noobie question...How can i get NVu onto my system?
[04:10] <rbrt> :)
[04:10] <whiskers> well i sure don't see how gnome lasted all these years without a menu editor
[04:10] <Shufla> rbrt: indeed. it _is_ based on debvian.
[04:10] <penguin42> rem: Hey your still trying - I filed a bug against it last night!
[04:10] <andrewski> Rod: hmm.  and what did ifconfig say?
[04:10] <Shufla> madsen: funny... I've got it on RC
[04:10] <madsen> Shufla: RC?
[04:10] <whiskers> and a mime editor
[04:10] <rbrt> I have not tried ubuntu, so I am attempting to do so now :)
[04:10] <rem> apt-get install Nvu ..or from their site the debian one. i had the v0.90 working fine ..
[04:10] <Shufla> whiskers: distro deployers where responsible for nice menu.
[04:11] <Shufla> madsen: ReleaseCandidate
[04:11] <whiskers> Shufla, well i suppose
[04:11] <rem> nvu wasnt in warty..dunno if its hoary ..
[04:11] <Friczy> re
[04:11] <Rod> andrewski, is there a way to shut that IP6 stuff of and get back to ip4?
[04:11] <whiskers> Shufla, but uh...it would have made their job easier as well
[04:11] <andrewski> Rod: i think that stuff's ok.
[04:11] <Friczy> why can't download the dvd image via bittorrent?
[04:11] <rem> of course sudo apt-get if not in root ..
[04:12] <Shufla> whiskers: not excatly.
[04:12] <andrewski> Rod: i mean, i have it in mine too. :P
[04:12] <Friczy> rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker - why is this message?
[04:12] <whiskers> Shufla, why not exactly
[04:12] <Rod> andrewski, well, ifconfig said that there was a lo device with the ip <IP_ADDRESS> or so and the eth0 device didnt have a IP
[04:12] <Shufla> whiskers: it's harder to support customized distro. if you delete all menus corresponding for administration 4exmple.
[04:12] <madsen> Shufla: Where on the website should it be? Wiki? FAQ?
[04:12] <andrewski> Rod: can you be on ubuntu and here at the same time?
[04:12] <rem> does anyone know the syntax to print to a network printer .. ? ipp://192.168.x.x:9100 .. ??
[04:12] <Shufla> madsen: try them search tools. my connection is lagged with torrents :>
[04:12] <whiskers> Shufla, well not really because you can always use the launcher approach to get something you need
[04:13] <DanglyBits> rem: apt-get install NVu doesnt work..so go to the NVu website or is there a ubuntu respository that has it?
[04:13] <madsen> Shufla: Tried those as well...
[04:13] <whiskers> Shufla, but what bothers me is this nondelete stuff
[04:13] <Rod> andrewski, yeah; will do... got 5 minutes?
[04:13] <andrewski> Rod: yup.
[04:13] <SpaceNuts> hi, anyone know how to add the marilatt rep. in Synaptic, the wiki page is not up to date
[04:14] <rem> they have one for a debian flavor on their website, follow instructions, its pretty easy, v.090 worked for me in warty ..
[04:14] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: hoary or warthy?
[04:14] <DanglyBits> rem: thanks
[04:14] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: hoary
[04:14] <Shufla> ok... dist-upgrade :D
[04:14] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: ?
[04:14] <Hannes_> hmm
[04:14] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: there's advanced option in synaptic's repository "Adder"
[04:14] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: just put there full line for apt-get
[04:15] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: I did, but it gives an error
[04:15] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: wait I will post it
[04:15] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: as described in ubuntuguide.org
[04:15] <fsapo> my glx driver stopped working :(
[04:15] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: argh. i'm too drunk right now. :(
[04:15] <EddieX> Anyone installed the "server" setup?
[04:15] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: A ok, don't drink too much
[04:16] <EddieX> I did that on my laptop and i must say it works absolutely great :)
[04:16] <whiskers> EddieX, nobody is stupid to mess with servers...that was yesterday's technology
[04:16] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: I used the ubuntuguide.org manual
[04:16] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: just started.
[04:16] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: but I get this: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[04:16] <EddieX> whiskers, Hmm a "slim" installation should also be a correct name for that setup ? ;)
[04:16] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: did you used that for hoary? the "new" one?
[04:16] <whiskers> SpaceNuts, i see you are learning how to experiment with gpg
[04:17] <Rod> ill be right abco
[04:17] <SpaceNuts> whiskers: a what? just trying to add an repository
[04:17] <Rod> back\
[04:17] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: read carefully about adding new repos. there are command to install GPG keys for that repo.
[04:17] <SpaceNuts> Shufla: ah ok thx already
[04:17] <Shufla> SpaceNuts: n/p.
[04:18] <RealKillaz> how can I check which parts of a program is installed with apt-get?
[04:18] <whiskers> you see if everyone puts stuff on p2p and some use gpg for whatever reason nobody is going to know which file to decrypt because it would be like finding a needle in a haystack
[04:18] <fsapo> noob question: i m installing the linux-image-k7 is it going to be automaticaly added to the grub menu?
[04:18] <RealKillaz> I want to check if the module php-mysql is installed b'cause it look like it is not
[04:18] <penguin42> fsapo: It did for me
[04:18] <madsen> Was updating from Warty to Hoary pretty seamless to you folks?
[04:18] <fsapo> penguin42, ok.. thanx.. gonna reboot :)
[04:19] <Kinsei> madsen: for me it was
[04:19] <madsen> Kinsei: Cool!
[04:19] <penguin42> (non tech question) What is the relationship between unbuntu package maintainers and the debian ones for the same packages? Are they the same or is there a seperate set?
[04:19] <madsen> Kinsei: No problems with XFree -> X.org transition?
[04:19] <Shufla> RealKillaz: dpkg -l | grep -i php-mysql
[04:19] <Shufla> RealKillaz: or apt-get install php-mysql
[04:20] <Kinsei> madsen: no, it was fine. although I did have to reboot.
[04:20] <madsen> Kinsei: Ew! Reboot! :( :-p
[04:20] <madsen> Kinsei: Well, thanks!
[04:20] <Kinsei> Anytime
[04:20] <penguin42> my_master_cspnic: Oy! Stay still
[04:20] <libben> how do i burn audio cd? from mp3's ... wanna play it in my carstereo
[04:20] <madsen> Kinsei: A friend of mine runs Ubuntu, but he's _very_ non-techie, so I'd like to make sure that he can just upgrade himself.
[04:21] <madsen> libben: k3b
[04:21] <RealKillaz> Shufla: sudo apt-get install php-mysql doesnt exist
[04:21] <acidspoon> why are all my icons, frames and so on in ubuntu so big although i've 1280x1024?
[04:21] <madsen> RealKillaz: php4-mysql I think...
[04:21] <Shufla> libben: you've got to read about restriced formats in ubuntu. try on www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:21] <Shufla> RealKillaz: you've got to add universe AFAIR
[04:21] <RealKillaz> madsen: ok lemme test that
[04:22] <madsen> RealKillaz: Provided that you run php4 of course... Otherwise you might want php5-mysql or php5-mysqli (iirc).
[04:22] <Kinsei> I wish I could upgrade myself
[04:22] <madsen> Kinsei: ?
[04:22] <Enspyron> Is there something like photoshop for linux?
[04:22] <Myrtti> Gimp
[04:22] <penguin42> Enspyron: Gimp is pretty good
[04:22] <individ> how can i upgrade the whole distro to the newest release available?
[04:22] <Kinsei> "...I'd like to make sure that he can just upgrade himself."
[04:22] <madsen> Kinsei: Oh! Lol!
[04:22] <my_master_csp> the gimp
[04:22] <RealKillaz> madsen: no I'm running php4
[04:22] <\sh> guys...on the 5.04 release, all the kde dev libs for 3.4.0 are in the repository?
[04:22] <Myrtti> pixel32, but it's commercial
[04:22] <Myrtti> but good, too
[04:23] <libben> Shufla, i think i got it... i can play mp3s and all that... i think i have gnomebaker fixed up for it... i just noticed the audio tab in there.... and now it says my cd is 55 mins and 14 secs.. soo thats a good sign
[04:23] <madsen> Kinsei: Hehe, well... Ubuntu IS great, but it still can't upgrade neither me nor my friends.
[04:23] <Goessen> .
[04:23] <penguin42> \sh: KDE went in ok for me
[04:23] <RealKillaz> madsen: still the php4-mysql wont install, Shufla said something about the universe AFAIR
[04:23] <Rod> hi
[04:23] <DooD> hi guys
[04:23] <Kinsei> madsen: ...yet
[04:23] <madsen> Kinsei: hehe
[04:23] <Riddell> \sh: yes
[04:23] <DooD> anyone know how i can install quicktime on linux?
[04:23] <\sh> penguin42: i don't mean the kde itself, i mean the developer libs
[04:23] <Enspyron> is it possible to run windows video files like wmv or avi on linux
[04:23] <\sh> Riddell: thx :)
[04:23] <\sh> so its time to change distros :)
[04:24] <penguin42> \sh seems to be there: Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3
[04:24] <madsen> RealKillaz: Hmm, you may be right... Add the universe/multiverse to your sources.list, apt-get update and try again.
[04:24] <Rod> andrewski, ok... i got both computers running now... One is downstairs though, and the other one is 2 floors above hehe so don't play with me ok? : )
[04:24] <my_master_csp> Enspyron>of course
[04:24] <my_master_csp> Enspyron>gstreamer
[04:24] <Enspyron> cool
[04:24] <Enspyron> whatabout codec packs?
[04:24] <\sh> riddel: hehe thx man :) i was there the last time :) when 5.04 was beta ;)
[04:24] <DooD> no one knows how to install quicktime?
[04:24] <andrewski> Rod: deal.  open up networking again... (don't go yet)
[04:24] <RealKillaz> madsen: ok.. first lemme figure out how to add those sources... :)
[04:24] <Shufla> bye bye
[04:25] <Enspyron> for windows I used to install kazaa codec pack
[04:25] <madsen> RealKillaz: It's on ubuntulinux.org somewhere.
[04:25] <Enspyron> Is there something similar?
[04:25] <RealKillaz> madsen: yup I saw it y'day....
[04:25] <my_master_csp> Enspyron>win32codec
[04:25] <Turtlewind> hi - I have some dumb newbie questions to ask
[04:26] <Enspyron> does it work for divx, xvid, AC3 etc
[04:26] <andrewski> Rod: open up the eth0 properties and tell me everything it says in there.  (not yet)
[04:26] <Turtlewind> I have been using the Live CD for a while and liked it, and I want to install Ubuntu properly
[04:26] <Turtlewind> but I don't want to get rid of Windows
[04:26] <andrewski> Rod: and tell me which IPs you have for DNS
[04:26] <jfk303> http://ccc.domaindlx.com/jkennedy/Screenshot01.png Shows screenshot of Gaim IM buddy list and chat, Skype and XChat in #ubuntu channel. I like comunication in ubuntu...
[04:26] <fsapo> please somebody help :( my 3d acceleration stopped working.. i m gettin this: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[04:26] <andrewski> Rod: and tell me the default gateway device.  ready... go! :P
[04:26] <penguin42> fsapo: Do a glxinfo   and tell me what it says for the line 'direct rendering'
[04:26] <RealKillaz> Turtlewind: dual-boot?
[04:26] <Turtlewind> can someone point me to a guide of how to install it onto a computer that already has Windows XP?
[04:27] <Kinsei> the default colours in ubuntu's xchat are burning holes in my retinas
[04:27] <Turtlewind> RealKillaz - yes please
[04:27] <Rod> andrewski, ty :)
[04:27] <\sh> jfk303: u got the gaim-e plugin running? i need for my jabber communications gpg :)
[04:27] <andrewski> Rod: let me know when you're back.
[04:27] <RealKillaz> Turtlewind: I have no manual....
[04:27] <RealKillaz> Turtlewind: sorry
[04:27] <madsen> Well, gotta go! See you later people! :)
[04:27] <Turtlewind> I tried searching the website but couldn't find anything obvious
[04:28] <fsapo> penguin42, dont have a direct rendering line O_O
[04:28] <individ> hey! i have the test (or dev whatever is called) release of Ubuntu Linux 5.04 and i see the final release of 5.04 is out! how can i upgrade to  this final one without downloading the cd and installing it?
[04:28] <padraig_> lo there, is there anything to be careful about before I buy a USB key/pen?
[04:28] <rtmdctr2> Turtlewind, have faith. Ubuntu installs seamlessly with an XP partition running. I know!
[04:28] <\sh> individ: sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <\sh> individ: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <penguin42> fsapo: Near the top? About the 3rd line of output of glxinfo for me says 'direct rendering: Yes' - what does yours say ?
[04:28] <fsapo> penguin42, direct rendering: No
[04:28] <dj28> padlefot, not really. just don't get a really cheap one because it will fail after a lot of use
[04:28] <fsapo> penguin42, it was working :(
[04:29] <penguin42> fsapo: Which card?
[04:29] <individ> \sh, thanks :)
[04:29] <fsapo> penguin42, radeon 9800pro
[04:29] <penguin42> fsapo: So what have you done between it working and it not working?#
[04:29] <Turtlewind> rtmdctr2 - so I just partition the drive and run the installer normally?
[04:29] <fsapo> penguin42, installed mesa3
[04:29] <padraig_> thanks dj28
[04:29] <penguin42> fsapo: That was probably a bad thing to do
[04:29] <fsapo> penguin42, but i uninstalled it
[04:29] <fsapo> penguin42, and reinstalled the fglrx driver =/
[04:29] <rtmdctr2> Turtlewind, you're not just running one hard drive, are you?
[04:30] <Turtlewind> yes, I only have one hard drive
[04:30] <fsapo> penguin42, but it still doesnt work :( i have reinstalled the xorg-mesa too
[04:30] <hkais> hi
[04:30] <Kinsei> that's better
[04:30] <penguin42> fsapo: erk that is going to be messy to sort out - try an   dpkg -l *mesa* - what does it list?
[04:30] <Turtlewind> I understand that I will have to partition it (although I don't know how)
[04:31] <RealKillaz> Turtlewind: Did you already have the HD partitioned?
[04:31] <Turtlewind> and was just wondering if there was a guide anywhere
[04:31] <Turtlewind> RealKillaz - no
[04:31] <Rod> andrewski, alright:
[04:31] <RealKillaz> Turtlewind: do you have more then one partition
[04:31] <Rod> andrewski, eth0 properties says it is configured using dhcp
[04:31] <fsapo> penguin42, lists a lot of packages O.o
[04:31] <Enspyron> If I install ubuntu, will it automatically add Windows xp to the boot manager?
[04:31] <penguin42> Turtlewind: If you can get yourself  some free space under windows by using windows to get you space for a partition then the standard installer should do you ok
[04:31] <gintas> hi guys, I intend to install hoary on my Toshiba A15-S157 laptop (i810 audio), but I decided to try the live CD first. It hangs immediately after trying to start up X.Org (and emits a beep)
[04:31] <hkais> is there any list of all available packages in ubuntu, maybe something like the http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages with a search engine?
[04:31] <Kinsei> Enspyron: yep
[04:31] <Turtlewind> penguin42 - thanks
[04:31] <fsapo> penguin42, pn  xlibmesa3      <none>         (no description available)
[04:32] <Turtlewind> sencond dumb question: how do I make a partition?
[04:32] <penguin42> fsapo: It just lists xlibmesa-dri, xlibmesa-gl, xlibmesa-glu as installed (ii) for me - but mesag3, xlibmesa3,xlibmesa3-gl, xlibmesa3-glu as un for me
[04:32] <Rod>  , andrewski, DNS server gives 3 ip s, 213 51 129 37 213 51 144 37 213 51 129 169
[04:32] <Mischung_> Trying to install plugins for Firefox (acrobat, flash, java, etc.). I open a terminal window, type "sudo apt-get install [plugin] " but the file cannot be located. Do I have to specify a file path? I do have two plugins that are tarballs. Suggestions welcome and needed!
[04:32] <Turtlewind> (sorry if I'm coming across as stupid here)
[04:32] <fsapo> penguin42, un  mesag3         <none>         (no description available)
[04:32] <gintas> I'm currently running Debian unstable, so I know that my hardware is supported well in Linux
[04:32] <penguin42> Turtlewind: The installer has a pretty partitioning thing
[04:32] <andrewski> Rod: ok...
[04:32] <Rod> andrewski, default gateway: none, but eth0 is clickable
[04:32] <Turtlewind> oh, great
[04:32] <fsapo> penguin42, what does pn means?
[04:32] <Turtlewind> so I just run the install CD and it will be simple?
[04:32] <penguin42> fsapo: Not sure - possibly purged
[04:32] <andrewski> Rod: that may be your problem there.  eth0 should be the default gateway.
[04:32] <fsapo> penguin42, pn  xlibmesa3      <none>         (no description available)
[04:32] <Rod> andrewski, clicking it doesnt seem to affect anything though
[04:32] <andrewski> Rod: hmm.
[04:33] <Rod> and next reboot it
[04:33] <Rod>  s back to none
[04:33] <RealKillaz> penguin42: aint that a problem? making a partition with windows on a HD with no partitions?
[04:33] <gintas> I don't want to go on with the install until I get the live CD working.  Any suggestions?
[04:33] <penguin42> Turtlewind: Yeh, but 1) under windows make a partition (it will be easier for it to do it I guess)  2) Make sure you have a backup of anything important just in case
[04:33] <fsapo> penguin42, any ideas to fix it? :(
[04:33] <penguin42> RealKillaz: All hard drives have partitions (almost) - he'll have partitions but not necessarily any spare space
[04:33] <penguin42> fsapo: Nope
[04:34] <andrewski> Rod: eth0 properties?
[04:34] <hkais> is there any list of all available packages in ubuntu, maybe something like the http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages with a search engine?
[04:34] <Rod> andrewski, that said it is dhcp configured
[04:34] <RealKillaz> penguin42: didnt know that it's possible to partition a HD without starting from scratch
[04:34] <fsapo> penguin42, lsmod isnt returning the fglrx module
[04:34] <penguin42> fsapo: I don't know the ATI binary drivers I'm afraid
[04:34] <QMario> How do I run a shell script?
[04:34] <penguin42> QMario: sh  the nameofthescript
[04:34] <hkais> QMario: sh ./yourscript
[04:35] <andrewski> Rod: and dhcp is working on your router?
[04:35] <QMario> Thank You! :)
[04:35] <Rod> yes andrewski
[04:35] <Turtlewind> penguin42 - OK
[04:35] <penguin42> RealKillaz: You can always add more partitions as long as you have the space
[04:35] <Turtlewind> thanks a lot
[04:35] <andrewski> QMario: or make it executable
[04:35] <rtmdctr2> Turtlewind, I wouldn't run only one hard drive under any circumstances. I wish you could afford a second and a third. I run three, and am going to put in a fourth.
[04:35] <Rod> andrewski, this computer uses it as well, just like the windows on the ubuntu system... and gentoo for example can ping everything right after boot from cd
[04:35] <QMario> sh  the nameofthescriptsh ./yourscript
[04:36] <andrewski> Rod: hmm.  make eth0 the default gateway, and then type `/etc/init.d/networking restart`.  after that, give me the result of `ifconfig eth0`.
[04:36] <andrewski> Rod: yeah, i had trouble with ubuntu too when i started.  hopefully we'll get this worked out.
[04:37] <Turtlewind> rtmdctr2 - the hard drive is big enough for what I need, and I make regular backups anyway
[04:37] <Rod> andrewski, thanks; will do :)
[04:37] <hkais> is there any list of all available packages in ubuntu, maybe something like the http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages with a search engine?
[04:37] <usual> I am having some issues with resolutions and refresh rates in hoary
[04:38] <usual> I can not seem to get 1280x1024 to work
[04:38] <MrNonchalant> you're like the thousandth person
[04:38] <rtmdctr2> Turtlewind, if the hard drive crashes, you pull the connection, and the next hard drive takes control on boot up. A 2 minute downtime is acceptable.
[04:38] <usual> only 1600x1200 and 800x600
[04:38] <usual> MrNonchalant, me?
[04:39] <penguin42> hkais: You can type apt-cache search  searchterm
[04:39] <Coily> is there anything i should do before i update to hoary (to prevent any breaking)
[04:39] <MrNonchalant> yeah, unfortunately I wasn't paying attention to the 999 other resolutions so I'm no help
[04:39] <gintas> hkais, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[04:39] <Nigelenki> anyone have an hp zv5402us pavilian
[04:39] <usual> k
[04:39] <Coily> anyone?
[04:39] <flodine> anyone running gtk-chtheme
[04:39] <amiroff> hey guys, I just installed hoary, how do I make hybernate actually work on my pc? it just wont get back to desktop :(
[04:39] <usual> anyone know how to fix the resolution issue in hoary
[04:39] <MrNonchalant> Coily, not really, no
[04:39] <Coily> MrNonchalant, alrighty ill just hope for the best
[04:40] <amiroff> usual, what kind of issue
[04:40] <Kinsei> amiroff: I am also interested in the answer to that
[04:40] <penguin42> usual: You can try the text based configurer - thats how I got my higher refresh rate on 1600x1200;   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:40] <RealKillaz> nice nice nice.... ubuntu is doing things nice
[04:40] <usual> amiroff, I can only get 1600x1200 and 800x600 I want 1280x1024
[04:40] <Nigelenki> damnit what theh ell.
[04:40] <amiroff> usual, I just fixed that on my newly installed box, let me tell you
[04:40] <usual> k
[04:40] <amiroff> usual, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:41] <usual> k
[04:41] <amiroff> where you see: 		Depth		24
[04:41] <amiroff> 		Modes		"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624"
[04:41] <usual> yes
[04:42] <Mischung_> Trying to install plugins for Firefox (acrobat, flash, java, etc.). I open a terminal window, type "sudo apt-get install [plugin] " but the file cannot be located. Do I have to specify a file path? I do have two plugins that are tarballs. Suggestions welcome and needed!
[04:42] <amiroff> remove "1600x1200" part and restart X
[04:42] <usual> amiroff, I just added 1600
[04:42] <amiroff> usual, why? you don't want it right?
[04:42] <usual> amiroff, cause when I plugged the proper refresh rate info into xorg.conf and restarted x it defaulted to 800
[04:42] <Nigelenki> usual:  change your refresh rates
[04:42] <usual> Nigelenki, these are the proper ones for my monitor
[04:43] <Nigelenki> heh
[04:43] <usual> Nigelenki, it's never had a problem in the past
[04:43] <Nigelenki> I odn't know my monitor's rates
[04:43] <usual> k
[04:43] <Xgates> I forgot does ext2 need to be in the kernel for ext3 support?
[04:43] <Nigelenki> I just set like 30-90 30-100
[04:43] <LinuxJones> Mischung_, www.ubuntuguide.org answers alot of new user questions.
[04:43] <Nigelenki> and IgnoreEDID
[04:43] <amiroff> usual, anyways, it must look like Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624"
[04:43] <MrNonchalant> Mischung_: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla Try there.
[04:43] <penguin42> usual: Have you got the horiz rate as well as the vert rate set?
[04:43] <Nigelenki> amiroff:  if he wants 16x12 support he can put it at the end too
[04:43] <Rod> ok andrewski
[04:43] <Rod> andrewski, restarting that service took about 2 minutes
[04:44] <hkais> gintas: do you know if all packages of debian, are proted to ubuntu?
[04:44] <usual> penguin42, yes
[04:44] <dj28> Xgates, i don't know the answer to that, but i would assume so since ext3 is merely ext2 with small modifications
[04:44] <amiroff> anyone on hybernate issue? help us... :(
[04:44] <Rod> andrewski, ifconfig eth0 gave me this
[04:44] <\sh> ok....brb installing ubuntu :)
[04:44] <andrewski> Rod: it's trying hard to work. :)
[04:44] <usual> brb
[04:44] <Xgates> hmm cant remember
[04:44] <penguin42> usual: Try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log - oh
[04:44] <Mischung_> LinuxJones and MrNonchalant: checking........          Thank you!
[04:44] <Rod> andrewski, eth0   Link encap: Ethernet   HWadress 00 2f ba 43 fi
[04:44] <dos000> i never taught changing the default *window* will be this hard. is it even possible to set a default bacground for every app ?
[04:44] <Rod> andrewski, UP BROADCAST RUNNING     MULTICAST MTU:0 METRIC: 1
[04:45] <Rod> andrewski, rx packets:11 errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frames 0
[04:45] <flodine> anyone running gtk-chtheme
[04:45] <Rod> andrewski, tx packets 2 errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0
[04:45] <pmai> gnome-baker to burn a iso?
[04:45] <Rod> andrewski, collisions 0 txqueuelen: 1000
[04:45] <LinuxJones> pmai, yeah or right click the .iso and write to disk
[04:46] <amiroff> Nigelenki, that's a good tip, I will use it
[04:46] <penguin42> Rod: You not got a 'inet addr' line ?
[04:46] <Rod> andrewski, rx bytes:2377 (2.3KiB) TX butes: 684  (684b)
[04:46] <andrewski> Rod: ok, open up networking again.
[04:46] <Rod> andrewski, interrupt: 21 base adress: 0x2000
[04:46] <dcraven> dos000, can you rephrase that question? I don't understand what you mean.
[04:46] <Rod> andrewski, thats allt he output...
[04:46] <andrewski> Rod: i don't use dhcp, so bear with me.
[04:46] <dcraven> dos000, when you say app, do you mean workspace?
[04:46] <Rod> alright
[04:47] <andrewski> Rod: go back to eth0 properties.
[04:47] <Rod> k
[04:47] <dos000> dcraven, i want to set a default background for ecery app i run. so that it is easier on my eyes thast all.
[04:48] <dcraven> dos000, I don't think that's doable. I still don't really know what that would look like though :).
[04:48] <andrewski> Rod: top box checked?
[04:48] <amiroff> I really have a speed problem with ubuntu, Gnome seems so slow on P4 1.7, 512 MB ram :(
[04:48] <Rod> andrewski, what's the top box?
[04:48] <dj28> dos000, i think you have to set the background on each app you use, like xchat and gnome-terminal.
[04:48] <darren_> How do I burn an ISO to disk using GNOME baker? I want it to be bootable
[04:48] <dos000> dcraven,  i am able to change nautilus background. is there not a way to edit the themes at all ?
[04:48] <andrewski> Rod: "This device is configured"
[04:48] <Rod> andrewski, ill check
[04:48] <pmai> LinuxJones, thanks
[04:49] <andrewski> Rod: don't go yet!
[04:49] <dcraven> dos000, well you can edit the themes, not easily though. And all applications will follow that theme. You can't do it individually.
[04:49] <Rod> andrewski, hehe too late... well, the top box was checked
[04:50] <dos000> dcraven, thats exactly what i want. one setting for all
[04:50] <dcraven> dos000, I'm very confused now. Is that not what you already have?
[04:50] <QMario> When using cupsaddsmb, I get this error message "WERR_ACCESS_DENIED." Why do I receive this message?
[04:50] <andrewski> Rod: ok.  tell me the information of the working computer: IP address, subnet mask, and gateway address.  we'll try to get your ubuntu box working with a static address.
[04:50] <dos000> dcraven, i have it white ! and its kiling my eyes.
[04:51] <darren_> How do I burn an ISO to disk using GNOME baker? I want it to be bootable
[04:51] <Turtlewind> OK, I have another silly question
[04:51] <Turtlewind> I found http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo and it tells me to make 4 partitions
[04:51] <Turtlewind> how big does each one have to be?
[04:51] <dos000> dcraven, i am able to change xchat and nautilus and firefox individually. but was wondering a default for all my apps.
[04:51] <whiskers> i would still like to know who in the world sat down and calculated all those ip numbers at blocklist.org
[04:52] <dcraven> dos000, oh.. Well I think I understand. You just want to dim the background a bit. Uhh.. Can you hold a sec? I think this rings a bell somewhere. I dunno if it's possible or not.
[04:52] <dos000> dcraven, not the desktop bacground tho. the window bacground
[04:52] <penguin42> Turtlewind: The Linux wants to be at least 3GB say, the swap about 2x your RAM is normal then datashare is enough to shuffle data between windows and linux
[04:52] <Turtlewind> OK, thanks a lot
[04:53] <dcraven> dos000, I think I understand. The desktop background would be trivial :).
[04:53] <Xgates> was anything built into Ubuntu that is going to use the "Cryptographic options" in the kernel?
[04:53] <penguin42> anyway - there are now more important things happening - Enterprise is on
[04:53] <dos000> dcraven, just makin sure :-)
[04:53] <Rod> andrewski, hmmm :D :D :D We're on on something
[04:54] <andrewski> Rod: ok. :)
[04:54] <hkais> anyone here, who uses IBM products under ubuntu?
[04:54] <hkais> e.g. IBM DB2 UDB 7.2 or Websphere 5 or WSAD 5.1?
[04:54] <Rod> andrewski, my lan her submask ends with 254.0 while ubuntu 'thought' it ended with 255.0
[04:54] <whiskers> darren_, it is easy with gnomebaker look for the menu option to burn an image
[04:54] <andrewski> Rod: hmm...
[04:55] <whiskers> darren_, as opposed to a datacd
[04:55] <dcraven> dos000, there is no way to do it through a GUI, but this is I think what you want --> http://tinyurl.com/6qvma
[04:55] <DocKane> is anybody here tried ubuntu on a via c3 or transmeta efficeon ?
[04:55] <Rod> andrewski, i dont have internet yet, but it says looking up....  With xchat, /server irc.freenode.net  .. it says connecting (finds ip adres and all) but doesnt quite connect yet.. Im rebooting that box now
[04:55] <dcraven> dos000, kinda ugly, but apparently it works :)
[04:55] <Rod> andrewski, that restart of service went rather quick this time, like in 5 seconds
[04:55] <hackeron> DocKane: what transmeta machine do you have?
[04:55] <whiskers> darren_, do you see how easy and clear it is
[04:55] <andrewski> Rod: well, make sure the configuration saves.  are you trying a static address?  if so, make sure you don't conflict with the DHCP range.
[04:57] <whiskers> darren_, and bittorrent works great ...i got several perfect hoary cd's  and perfect burns as well
[04:57] <dcraven> dos000, is that what you mean?
[04:57] <Rod> andrewski, yes.. it works flawless now :D
[04:57] <andrewski> Rod: with a static address?
[04:57] <Rod> andrewski, are you a developer / coder by the way?
[04:58] <Rod> andrewski, yeah; it;s all static now
[04:58] <justin> hey guys i just installed hoary 64 bit and i was wondering what packages do i need to install to get 32bit emulation?
[04:58] <DocKane> hackeron, no one yet. i am planing to build a silent system for daytoday work (maybe with a Ibase MB860). do you have ressources to this topic ?
[04:58] <andrewski> Rod: i'm learning python, but i don't dip my fingers in ubuntu at all. ;P
[04:58] <Rod> andrewski, ill be looking for a way to use the right submask but still using dhcp
[04:58] <andrewski> Rod: awesome that it's working!
[04:58] <Rod> andrewski, but im so glad now
[04:58] <andrewski> Rod: yeah, you have something to go on now. :)
[04:58] <QMario> When using cupsaddsmb, I get this error message "WERR_ACCESS_DENIED." Why do I receive this message?
[04:59] <dos000> dcraven, do i have to login/logout ?
[04:59] <Rod> it's kinda shitty though... During the first install it tries to connect to the internet... But it fails, it keeps seriously searchign for 6 minutes before it continues the installation
[04:59] <dcraven> dos000, I would think so. Either that or change the theme, then change it back or something.
[04:59] <Rod> but well, anyway... ill be right back... on my ubuntu box
[04:59] <justin> hey guys i just installed hoary 64 bit and i was wondering what packages do i need to install to get 32bit emulation?
[04:59] <fsapo> anyone knows a way to make ut2k4 work with the esd?? i ve installed esd and now i get this in ut2k4 open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[04:59] <dos000> dcraven, ah !
[05:00] <dcraven> dos000, did it work?
[05:00] <mjr> justin, look into a 32-bit chroot, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebootstrapChroot
[05:00] <whiskers> but what i would like to know is who bothered to calculate all those ip numbers at blocklist.org and why if everybody is only downloading hoary cds
[05:00] <plagerism> What is the name of the next version of Ubuntu?? and is there repositories yet??
[05:00] <dcraven> plagerism, breezy, and no.
[05:01] <justin> mjr: a 32bit chroot is just like having another machine...which is pointless i know there are a couple of libs i need but i dont remember what...you can waste that hd space if you want but not for me =)
[05:01] <rod> so
[05:01] <rod> :)
[05:01] <Nigelenki> that was always a great line for a song
[05:02] <Nigelenki> just out of nowhere
[05:02] <KingArthur> hello all.  Well, I've got some problems.  The other day, I updated ubuntu through the update manager, after that, I was not able to connect to wireless networks, but I could see them (ones I know are active in the area), well I did a fresh install just for the hell of it, and now I can't see the wireless networks at all.
[05:02] <rod> andrewski, should i file a bugreport or so you think?
[05:02] <Nigelenki> "oooooooooh looks like it came back for more"
[05:02] <KingArthur> I'm wonderinf if anyone knows of this issue.  It is a dell inspiron 8600
[05:02] <Nigelenki> makes me think of doom 3 :P
[05:02] <toresbe> Does anyone else have a problem with building SDL programs?
[05:02] <whiskers> KingArthur, well maybe the kernel is not compiled to support wireless devices..who knows.
[05:02] <justin> hey guys i just installed hoary 64 bit and i was wondering what packages do i need to install to get 32bit emulation?
[05:03] <dos000> dcraven, nice !
[05:03] <dcraven> dos000, cool. Glad it worked. Some day that process might become simplified I suppose.
[05:03] <KingArthur> hmmmm....it was working great with the Horay! 3.04 RC, but now with the final candadate, it won't work.  driving me nuts.  lol.  I've tried everything I could find in the forums to no avail
[05:03] <dos000> dcraven, i have to undo all the changes i did to firefox,nautilus, xchat now :-(
[05:04] <dcraven> dos000, haha
[05:04] <ubuntoid> Can one play Quicktime movies on hoary?
[05:04] <dos000> dcraven, it looks really nice
[05:04] <dos000> dcraven, i am surprised there is no theme editors out there
[05:05] <dcraven> dos000, uhh.. I'm not sure xchat etc follow the theme background color... I think they set their own disobediently.
[05:05] <toresbe> I get this:
[05:05] <toresbe> /usr/local/lib64/libX11.so.6: undefined reference to `XauGetBestAuthByAddr'
[05:05] <toresbe> /usr/local/lib64/libX11.so.6: undefined reference to `XauDisposeAuth'
[05:05] <Pizbit> HRm, a bit off topic, but has anyone come across a "DON'T PANIC" GDM login theme?
[05:05] <justin> does anyb ody here run hoary 64bit?
[05:05] <toresbe> justin: *raises hand*
[05:05] <individ> i am trying to make xconfig and i get this  Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the
[05:05] <Unipa1> justin: yep, perfectly
[05:05] <individ> * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR
[05:05] <individ> * environment variable is set to the correct location.
[05:05] <toresbe> Pizbit: haha
[05:05] <justin> Unipa1, toresbe, do you have the ability to run cedega or point2play?
[05:05] <rbrt> uh
[05:05] <toresbe> Pizbit: can you please /msg me when it works?
[05:06] <Pizbit> toresbe: Do you get the refference?
[05:06] <rbrt> does Ubuntu set a root password for me? o_O
[05:06] <toresbe> justin: I should think so, dunno
[05:06] <Pizbit> rbrt: No, use sudo
[05:06] <toresbe> Pizbit: when you find it, sorry
[05:06] <toresbe> Pizbit: of course! :)
[05:06] <doobs> hi all
[05:06] <Unipa1> justin, I don't know these applications, I am a  newb
[05:06] <dcraven> dos000, well these tasks need to be prioritized when there are a limited number of developers... Implementing a background color switcher opens a can o' worms that would turn into a HUGE project. There are other more critical things first. But I agree it should be done at some point.
[05:06] <justin> Unipa1, ug alright
[05:06] <rbrt> Pizbit, ah, thanks :)
[05:06] <individ> what do i need to install libqt3-dev?
[05:06] <dcraven> dos000, at least it's doable.
[05:07] <individ> or libqt3-mt-dev ?
[05:07] <andrewski> rod: not a bad idea
[05:07] <flodine> anyonre know the command for ubuntu to see your hard drives
[05:07] <justin> were is the mouse located in hoary? is it /dev/mouse?
[05:08] <xamdm> justdave, waht kkind of mouse ??
[05:08] <justin> a usb mouse =)
[05:08] <individ> what's the difference?
[05:09] <xamdm> justdave, /dev/input/mouse
[05:09] <justin> ty
[05:09] <justin> xamdm, and its justin, not justdave
[05:09] <hackeron> DocKane: Well, I had the Fujitsu P2110 before it broke, linux support has been perfect for it ever since 2.4.20, it was 866mhz (benchmarked around 400mhz P3) so I didnt run a full DE to make sure it felt no slower than my 3200+: ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/latest.png
[05:09] <xamdm> sry ;-)
[05:10] <hackeron> DocKane: had 15 hours battery life and a beautiful 10" wide screen on that bad boy :)
[05:10] <individ> oh i got it libqt3-dev
[05:10] <xamdm> bi spter ...., tsch
[05:11] <flodine> do you guy even know if you hard drive dma is on
[05:11] <flodine> or yall just didnt check
[05:11] <flodine> cause its off by default
[05:11] <flodine> heloo
[05:11] <flodine> hello
[05:12] <dcraven> flodine, hard drive dma is off?
[05:12] <KingArthur> :-P  I'm a newbie so I would have no idea how to set my DMA to on ;-)
[05:12] <dcraven> flodine, I thought it was just optical drives that were defaluted off.
[05:12] <flodine> did you turn yours on
[05:12] <dcraven> flodine, just my optical.
[05:12] <hackeron> DocKane: it is lightyears ahead of via. The 866mhz crusoe took around 1W and was passivly cooled on the laptop, a 1ghz via C3 takes about 10W and I already have a huge heatsync on it (the flower cooler) and its still piping hot.
[05:12] <steveO_Laptop> ? how do I remove a package? <driverloader>
[05:13] <dcraven> flodine, my hard drives were dma'd by default.
[05:13] <dcraven> flodine, I think you are thinking of opticals (ie.  I pay whole sale what wal-mart has on the retail price. I make all my money off Parental advisory Cd's if Wal-Mart would start selling unedited Cd's I'd have to go out of business. When is the U.S. Government gonna start to place the blame on the shoulders of major corporations instead of on the kids that want to here the music before they buy it?
[05:15] <hackeron> DocKane: heh: http://www.epiacenter.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=52&page=4
[05:16] <whiskers> everybody is pointing the finger at someone else in every direction
[05:17] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, I mean, isn't *that* the Linuxant wireless driver thing? (Driverloader)
[05:17] <steveO_Laptop> dcraven yes I cant get the source kernel install because of it os I need it out whats the command to uninstall and remove a package
[05:17] <hackeron> DocKane: if only you could actually buy it somewhere in the UK I wouldnt be stuck with this pos epia :'(
[05:17] <fsapo> anyone knows if there's a way to make ut2k4 work with esd?
[05:18] <\sh> ok guys...ubuntu install in less then 15 minutes
[05:19] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, well that depends on the vendor in this case. That is a closed application so there is no "typical way" to uninstall it. It's up to the vender. I'd check the Linuxant website. Unless of course someone in here has had experience with it and can help.
[05:19] <rbrt> \sh, did not take longer than that here too. :)
[05:19] <\sh> rbrt: well...15 minutes against 8 hours of gentoo stage 1 install ;)
[05:20] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, I don't even know how it works... Is it a kernel module? If that is the case, then "modprobe -r modulename" will unplug it from the running kernel.
[05:20] <steveO_Laptop> so there's  no dpkg remove (package)
[05:20] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, oh.. Was it a .deb file?
[05:20] <libben> purge
[05:20] <steveO_Laptop> yes
[05:21] <bbplayer5> Would anyone be able to help me figure out how to install video codecs in ubuntu x86_64?   Thanks :)
[05:21] <sig> steveO_Laptop: apt-get --purge remove packagename
[05:21] <imperfect-> Why oh why is ubuntu kickin my ass
[05:21] <rbrt> \sh, or <15 hours of sourcemage.
[05:21] <libben> if it was just a tarball. and u made the ./install thing
[05:21] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, sorry, "apt-get --purge remove package" then.
[05:21] <Hav> hi, anyone use cryptoloop on ubuntu?
[05:21] <libben> how to remove it then
[05:21] <steveO_Laptop> ok
[05:22] <jay_> could somebody help out the newbiest of newbies?
[05:22] <dcraven> steveO_Laptop, I didn't realize it was a deb. Check "man apt-get" for more options and capabilities of that command if you are interested.
[05:22] <adam_> hey fellas
[05:22] <adam_> and ladies
[05:22] <imperfect-> xorg hates me
[05:22] <steveO_Laptop> k
[05:22] <imperfect-> for a while i could only get 1024x768, now i can only get 1280x1024
[05:22] <jay_> xorg hates me too
[05:22] <imperfect-> So eventually I'll have my native 1600x1200
[05:22] <DanglyBits> noobie question..trying to install some basic programs like k3b nvu and adobe reader 7...how do i do this..they are not avilable thru synatic?...i am runnung amd64 version ubuntu
[05:22] <imperfect-> its an evolution
[05:23] <MrNonchalant> imperfect-: lol
[05:23] <steveO_Laptop> its nuts not having all the compilling tools loaded by default or source kernel
[05:23] <bbplayer5> Would anyone be able to help me figure out how to install video codecs in ubuntu x86_64?   Thanks :)
[05:23] <\sh> ok..now for the i686 kernels...and then reboot
[05:23] <adam_> DanglyBits, try typing in terminal apt-get k3b
[05:23] <Rod> bbplayer5, nooo har har
[05:23] <bbplayer5> :(
[05:23] <adam_> DanglyBits, make sure you have all of the repos selected
[05:23] <Rod> bbplayer5, check the faq on the ubuntu website, there is an exelent howto
[05:24] <catfox> anybody here ever worked in linux tech support?
[05:24] <Hell-Razor> catfox i have for gentoo
[05:24] <adam_> bbplayer5, which codec do you want?
[05:24] <DanglyBits> adam_: what about nvu and reader 7?
[05:24] <darren_> How do I burn an iso via terminal?
[05:24] <catfox> Hell-Razor, did you have interviews and things to get the job?
[05:25] <adam_> nvu?
[05:25] <Hell-Razor> catfox: i was recruted
[05:25] <adam_> DanglyBits, nvu?
[05:25] <catfox> Hell-Razor, I want to apply for one, but would like to know what kind of questions would be asked
[05:25] <catfox> Hell-Razor, ahh, right
[05:25] <adam_> DanglyBits, what is that?
[05:25] <DanglyBits> adam_: linspire html editor
[05:25] <imperfect-> most linux tech support people kill themselves
[05:25] <Hell-Razor> catfox, dont worry yourself to death, thats alwayst he est way to prepair for anything
[05:25] <imperfect-> so they dont last long
[05:25] <adam_> DanglyBits, oh.... never used it...
[05:25] <ogra> adam_, mozilla composer with some extras
[05:25] <bbplayer5> will the mplayer codecs work with the 64 bit OS?  Anyone know?
[05:25] <DanglyBits> adam_: like dreamweaver
[05:25] <adam_> bbplayer5, they should
[05:26] <DanglyBits> adam_: what about nvu and reader 7?
[05:26] <adam_> DanglyBits, oh, i have never used it, but why not trying to use dreamweaver thru wine?
[05:26] <HKSDU> Can I make a ramdisk and mount it as swap?
[05:26] <catfox> Hell-Razor, hehe yeah i guess so. I'm reading up lots on certain command lines. They deal with things that I've not used before at home, would I be expected to know almost everything before an interview? (ie i've never used ssh)
[05:26] <ogra> DanglyBits, there is no usable package for nvu yet....we'll try to get it in universe for breezy if someone makes a sane package
[05:26] <DanglyBits> adam_: how do i get acroread (adobe reader 7)?
[05:26] <adam_> DanglyBits, as for reader... i have never met anyone that got that to work
[05:27] <ulisse> Hi channel!
[05:27] <Hell-Razor> catfox: ssh is pritty easy to learn/understand
[05:27] <Hell-Razor> catfox: i think they will look at what know know over what you dont know
[05:27] <catfox> Hell-Razor, ok cool, thanks :)
[05:27] <catfox> Hell-Razor, yeah, i hope so.
[05:27] <ulisse> How can I enable a ssh session to use X display?
[05:27] <ogra> DanglyBits, there is a long thread in the ubuntu-users mailing list about a7
[05:27] <Hell-Razor> catfox: hrm i types know twice...i meant what you know over what you dont know
[05:27] <ogra> ulisse, ssh -X user@host
[05:27] <kryme> Hey, I compiled myself the newest Gaim, but I don't remember what the sound command is so that I can hear sounds other than console beeps.  Anyone know what that is?
[05:28] <ogra> ulisse, this will redirect your X output to your current display
[05:28] <steveO_Laptop> ok what and how do you all upgrade your kernels and source ? my kernel is 2.10-5 and dont see the source for it
[05:28] <ulisse> ogra, yes, but if I issue "export DISPLAY=:0.0" and launch an app, i get "cannot open display 0.0"...
[05:28] <\sh> hey ogra
[05:28] <adam_> anyone got a good ati driver for a 9800 to work on 64 bit?
[05:28] <adam_> mine is a lil buggy
[05:29] <ogra> ulisse, thats because offering open TCP ports from X is evil, use the ssh -X method....
[05:29] <ogra> \sh, hey
[05:29] <ulisse> ok, thanks
[05:30] <bbplayer5> oops
[05:30] <HKSDU> in case you guys missed my question, it was that is it possible to make ramdisk and mount my swap partition on it? any clue?
[05:30] <adam_> haha
[05:30] <adam_> bbplayer5, you ok?
[05:30] <bbplayer5> Ok on the FAQ page, one of the directions to install the codecs is /path/to/tarball - wtf is tarball :p  Yes, im a complete noob
[05:30] <adam_> hahahaha tarball is like a zip file
[05:31] <bbplayer5> Im an evil windows user
[05:31] <DocKane> ot to anynody from us: how do you write the name "c ann" ?
[05:31] <bbplayer5> oh ok, so the compressed codecs file?
[05:31] <adam_> bbplayer5, yes
[05:31] <bbplayer5> thanks :)
[05:31] <whiskers> the people are funny....they don't know who to blame...p2p or Walmart
[05:31] <adam_> bbplayer5, no prob
[05:31] <ulisse> ogra, "connection rejected because of wrong authentication"...
[05:31] <ogra> HKSDU, that might be possible, but what do you expect through stealing main memory and reallocate it to a virtual swap partition
[05:31] <brrrt> hihi windows has zip linux has balls, tarballs!
[05:31] <adam_> did anyone read my question regarding an ati driver?
[05:32] <\sh> adam_, what about it?
[05:32] <HKSDU> ogra: ya...haha..just out of curiousity if that is possible...
[05:32] <ogra> ulisse, look in the ssh_config
[05:32] <adam_> \sh, just need to install a new one, since mine is buggy
[05:32] <DanglyBits> anyone here ever try gentoo?
[05:32] <ogra> ulisse, ForwardX11 must be set to yes
[05:32] <whiskers> DanglyBits, i had a lot of luck with gentoo
[05:32] <whiskers> DanglyBits, but it is a difficult and large system to work with
[05:32] <\sh> adam_, apt-get install fglrx-driver?
[05:33] <\sh> no
[05:33] <DanglyBits> i am getting fustrated with the lack of software in 5.04
[05:33] <adam_> DanglyBits, i would suggest you stay with ubuntu before you try gentoo, it takes alot more command knowledge
[05:33] <\sh> sorry
[05:33] <\sh> adam_, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[05:33] <DanglyBits> but it has the software
[05:33] <whiskers> DanglyBits, well you really don't need all that software....ubuntu focuses on the basics
[05:33] <\sh> DanglyBits, what are u missing
[05:33] <whiskers> DanglyBits, and if there is some strange piece you want...well there is a compiler in ubuntu
[05:34] <ogra> adam_, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto may help
[05:34] <zoso_kubuntu> evening folks
[05:34] <steveO_Laptop> HELP !!! lol you do I upgrade the kernel in kubuntu source doesnt match im running 10-5 and source is 10-6 :(
[05:34] <DanglyBits> \sh: k3b does not show...nvu and acroreader 7
[05:34] <steveO_Laptop> HELP !!! lol how do I upgrade the kernel in kubuntu source doesnt match im running 10-5 and source is 10-6 :(
[05:34] <\sh> DanglyBits, nvu is a nogo...because it sucks
[05:34] <steveO_Laptop> ok sorry double post
[05:34] <DanglyBits> what else is suggested
[05:34] <\sh> DanglyBits, acroreader should be in multiverse
[05:35] <\sh> DanglyBits, quanta or bluefish
[05:35] <DanglyBits> \sh: how do i access that?
[05:35] <\sh> DanglyBits, update your sources.list
[05:35] <ulisse> ogra, error in locking authority file [etc]
[05:35] <bbplayer5> Ok i followed the directions and it still wont play the movies.  This is the problem i had before.  cant find plugin.  I verified they are in the codecs folder also
[05:35] <rbrt> I think I am going to reeeeaaally enjoy Ubuntu. :D
[05:35] <DocKane> hackeron, so you would prefer the transmeta system ?
[05:35] <\sh> DanglyBits, synaptic, add universe and multiverse
[05:35] <DanglyBits> \sh: take a look at nvu it is better than even bluefish...quanta is old news
[05:35] <\sh> DanglyBits, nvu is shit..i had it compiled on my gentoo
[05:36] <ogra> DanglyBits, acroread 7 isnt even released by adobe for linux ? you expect miracles where none are possible...
[05:36] <ogra> DanglyBits, afaik, there was only a beta preview available for a short time
[05:36] <\sh> ogra: not the truth...acroread7 is 6 with beta stuff in it ,)
[05:36] <individ> i'm trying to make a boot floppy , gub-floppy , and i get this : Can't find /lib/grub/*-*/stage1, aborting
[05:36] <ogra> \sh, yep, but why should we include software that wasnt even released by the vendor
[05:37] <\sh> ogra, this is something different...if he wants to have it, adobe is his source of investigation ;)
[05:37] <Fackamato> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25365
[05:37] <\sh> finally xpdf is enough
[05:37] <DanglyBits> ogra: its available for fc4 and gentoo
[05:37] <GenghisKhan> i want some help with revertin ubuntu's sudo system to the classic su system
[05:37] <dyno> hi does anyon have ever try to configure alsa under ubuntu?
[05:37] <\sh> DanglyBits, no
[05:37] <ogra> DanglyBits, and as i said, the nvu packages around dont match our QA standard, we looked at it and hope someone packs a sane package for breezy
[05:37] <\sh> DanglyBits, there is no acrobat reader 7
[05:38] <\sh> it will never be there
[05:38] <DanglyBits> ok
[05:38] <ogra> DanglyBits, feel free to join the MOTU to help packaging nvu ;)
[05:38] <bbplayer5> Adam:  I didnt work, still looking for plugins :(
[05:38] <\sh> gentoo took over only the version numbers...but finally its 6 with a bit beta stuff inside...no official release
[05:38] <\sh> ogra, nvu is also beta software ;)
[05:38] <\sh> same with mozilla-calendar
[05:39] <ogra> \sh, yup
[05:39] <\sh> tested it all on gentoo ;)
[05:39] <\sh> i'm a motherf*cking compilerslave ;)
[05:39] <ogra> \sh, but we will include it if there is a correct built package....
[05:39] <adam_> \sh, do you know the exact name of the ati driver or is it fglrx?
[05:39] <ogra> \sh, as long as its tagged in the version number (i.e. look at our wonderful hula package)
[05:40] <ogra> adam_, its all on the wiki page
[05:40] <\sh> ogra, well...if its finaly, you can include it...then its same packaging as firefox or thunderbird
[05:40] <adam_> ok
[05:40] <adam_> i will look, i got one... but its buggy
[05:40] <\sh> adam_, http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <dyno> does anyone kno if it's normal that alsaconf does not work?
[05:40] <\sh> adam_, everything is there...i'm following the rules ;)
[05:41] <\sh> ogra, package repos ready for new release? ,-)
[05:41] <adam_> \sh, thanks you and ogra helped me again...
[05:41] <efbie> Hello !
[05:41] <ogra> \sh, nope...still no breezy....but we all need a deserved rest....
[05:42] <efbie> I have a little problem. Can anyone tell me how to remove that alt-rmb mouse shortcut ?
[05:42] <bbplayer5> These codecs are the bane of my life :p
[05:42] <\sh> ogra, ok...then actual development and package building is only for hoary
[05:42] <efbie> because it makes blender unusable...
[05:42] <ogra> \sh, there is no actual development currently ;)
[05:43] <\sh> grmpf
[05:43] <\sh> i want to deinstall linux-386 and it doesn't give me all deps
[05:43] <\sh> argl...
[05:44] <\sh> ogra, meta packages should also be deinstalled with deps ;)
[05:44] <ogra> \sh, just uninstall the lowest level of the dependencys, thats how it works ;)
[05:45] <\sh> ogra, yeah..I'm on it ;)
[05:45] <ogra> \sh, that would cause a lot of probs...
[05:45] <bbplayer5> would anyone be able to chat with me about these video codecs?  I cant get them to work for the life of me. THanks.
[05:45] <\sh> ogra, why?
[05:45] <whiskers> bbplayer5, where are you located and are they legal in your area
[05:45] <ogra> \sh, imagine you want totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer (which uninstalls ubuntu-desktop) .....
[05:46] <whiskers> bbplayer5, perhaps you are not supposed to be using them
[05:46] <bbplayer5> Pennsylvania - yes
[05:46] <whiskers> bbplayer5, they are not legal in your area
[05:46] <bbplayer5> Really?
[05:46] <\sh> ogra, well....then u have to change to a much finer granulated dependency system ;)
[05:46] <bbplayer5> mpeg codecs are not legal?
[05:46] <\sh> ogra, u know...those ones with the glasballs ;)
[05:46] <whiskers> bbplayer5, in the US you are required to pay for them
[05:47] <Choubaka> patents :(
[05:47] <ogra> \sh, thats always possible....but it gets very complicated to manage all these deps if you build a new package
[05:47] <ogra> \sh, one that wasnt in the distro yet...
[05:47] <bbplayer5> Would that cause it not to work?
[05:47] <bbplayer5> I had them working on SuSE before.
[05:48] <whiskers> bbplayer5, well in the US they have patent and copyright laws and mpeg is proprietary and protected in the US
[05:48] <Choubaka> you can make them work, but it's not legal.
[05:49] <bbplayer5> Didnt know that.
[05:49] <whiskers> bbplayer5, well that is understandable...it is a very confusing issue
[05:49] <bbplayer5> Ok so if I bought the mpeg codec, it probably still wouldnt work since these dont :)
[05:49] <Choubaka> Also, As far as I know you are not allowed to watch DVDs either.
[05:50] <Choubaka> Someone correct me if I'm wrong
[05:50] <\sh> ogra, i see
[05:50] <\sh> ok..ati drivers are working
[05:50] <bbplayer5> Ok then to another problem.  Anyone gotten an x800xt to run hardware accelleration?
[05:50] <Xgates> for making a initrd.img you only need the "< > RAM disk support" in the kernel?
[05:51] <^thehatsrule^> bbplayer5, fglx
[05:51] <chase> hay im trying to load usbcore into the kernel but it doesnt seem installed? what package can i get it from?
[05:51] <hackeron> DocKane: ofcourse :) - better support, better performance, lower temprature and power consumption, whats not to prefer.
[05:51] <Xgates> and what options, how would you run -->  mkinitrd to make one?
[05:51] <whiskers> Choubaka, yes...you can't play DVDs either because even if they were in free formats which they are not...but even if they were...they are encrpyted and the DMCA prevents you from using libdvdcss2
[05:51] <Xgates> been friggin ages since I made one
[05:51] <ogra> Xgates, what for do you compile a kernel ?
[05:51] <Choubaka> whiskers: Not where I live though <3
[05:52] <Xgates> ogra, what?
[05:52] <ogra> Xgates, why do you compile a kernel ?
[05:52] <whiskers> Choubaka, well some of you people are very lucky
[05:52] <Choubaka> Yeah. To be born outside the US :p
[05:52] <Xgates> ogra, you dont know?
[05:53] <ogra> Xgates, why do _you_ compile a kernel right now, what is ubuntus kernel missing for you ?
[05:53] <Xgates> because I have been compiling them for over 6 years and I build my own is all :-)
[05:54] <Xgates> but I have not been using a Distro using initrd.img I've always run Slack
[05:54] <\sh> hell it's nice the kubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <ogra> Xgates, you know that its a bit different in debian based systems (you use make-kpkg etc)
[05:54] <Xgates> or I should say I meant havent needed it
[05:54] <ogra> ...which also builds the initrd....
[05:55] <Xgates> hmm well I'm use to doing somethings by hand
[05:55] <Bazzi> Xgates build lfs ;-)
[05:55] <Xgates> ahh lfs thats too much
[05:56] <Rumo> Xgates - you don't need initrd if you build your own kernel
[05:56] <ogra> Xgates, and dont forget there is a huge amount of patches in ubuntu kernels....compiling a vamnilla kernel and not one from a linux-source package from ubuntu may result in functionallity loss
[05:57] <kimjone> hi
[05:57] <kimjone> any news on when mono 1.0.6 or 1.1 will be out for ubuntu?
[05:57] <ogra> kimjone, with breezy
[05:57] <kimjone> that long?!
[05:58] <Xgates> ogra, how do you pull down the kernel src in Ubuntu?
[05:58] <kimjone> won't it be updated before then
[05:58] <batoms> breezy is the next release?
[05:58] <kimjone> in some sort of development version?
[05:58] <and1> hello!
[05:58] <superted> ogra: so the beagle packages for hoary went down the drain? :)
[05:58] <Pizbit> Xgates: apt-get / synaptic of course.
[05:58] <ZxC> Hello, anyone know good guides for dual booting Ubuntu, the best I've found is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=dual%20boot" but that still seems to have issues attached to it.
[05:58] <djtansey> ogra: can i start using breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list to follow development?
[05:58] <ogra> Xgates, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[05:59] <and1> i need to get rhythmbox play mp3 can u help me?
[05:59] <kimjone> and
[05:59] <ningo> http://tinyurl.com/62e27
[05:59] <Pizbit> and1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:59] <superted> and1: install gstreamer8.0-plugins
[05:59] <santiago> hola
[05:59] <Pizbit> and1: And no I can't.
[05:59] <Xgates> ogra, thx
[05:59] <ogra> superted, they will surely enter breezy, hoary is stable and will only see security fixes
[06:00] <efbie> can someone using warty tell me if Alt + Right mouse button is doing something on their windows ?
[06:00] <ogra> djtansey, not yet :)
[06:00] <and1> superted i have done it
[06:00] <batoms> when would a "reasonable" time to start using breezy? about 3 months?
[06:00] <batoms> i.e halfway
[06:00] <superted> ogra: ok, but ~1 week ago you said there would be beagle stuff in universe within two weeks if i'm not mistaken?
[06:01] <ogra> batoms, probably....nobody can tell what will break when ...
[06:01] <and1> superted what else should i do?
[06:01] <bob2> it's waiting for new dbus and mono
[06:01] <djtansey> ogra: thanks. i'll keep my ears perked so i can know when
[06:01] <Aladdin> hi folks!
[06:01] <ogra> superted, i said if the packages get ready....
[06:01] <ZxC> Anyone know any definitive guides for Dual booting with Win Xp?
[06:01] <bob2> efbie: it will give you a window menu
[06:01] <ogra> djtansey, i guess next week, but dont quote me on that
[06:01] <bob2> ZxC: you shouldn't need to do anything at all
[06:01] <and1> superted what else should i do?
[06:02] <efbie> bob2: do you know how can i remove this behaviour ?
[06:02] <superted> ogra: ok
[06:02] <superted> and1: gstreamer0.8-mad should do the trick iirc
[06:02] <ZxC> Bob2: That's what I thought but after searching a lot I've seen loadsa problems with the MBR being erased and the Win Xp being deleted
[06:02] <bob2> efbie: probably in the keybindings config thing, system -> desktop preferences
[06:02] <djtansey> ogra: thanks!
[06:02] <ZxC> *I mean to say WinXp not booting
[06:02] <bob2> ZxC: that's usually user error
[06:03] <ogra> superted, the mono packages itself would have been ready on release day so we would have had no time to test or rebuild all other mono apps against the new base...
[06:03] <bob2> ZxC: grub will overwrite the MBR on an ubuntu system, but it will also automatically get an option to boot windows
[06:03] <guerby> hi, I'm running ubuntu 5.04 live, and I'd like to play a quicktime movie, is there a package with the codecs?
[06:03] <ogra> superted, it was simply to dangerous
[06:03] <and1> superted thnk
[06:03] <bob2> guerby: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:03] <ogra> guerby, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <mark_> any1 know how i can play xvid movies//clips on ubuntu ?
[06:04] <ogra> heh...hey bob2
[06:04] <bob2> guerby: not all that useful on a livecd, tho
[06:04] <bob2> mark_:  wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <ZxC> Bob2: I read that you have to say no against the default Grub settings and install the Grub boot loader to the Linux Partition otherwhise your Winxp drive in unbootable
[06:04] <\sh> ogra: u r using only chroot right for package building
[06:04] <\sh> ?
[06:04] <bob2> mark_: that is in the FAQ
[06:04] <guerby> bob2, yes I have the pages but it talks about .tar.gz not a package installable from synaptics
[06:04] <bob2> ZxC: no, that would be someone confused
[06:04] <bob2> \sh: a chroot is all you need
[06:04] <bob2> guerby: "the pages" = the URL I gave you above?
[06:04] <guerby> bob2 yes
[06:04] <ZxC> Bob2: are you sure? I read a whole wiki guide here "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=dual%20boot"
[06:05] <MrNonchalant> ZxC: I didn't and my WinXP is bootable.
[06:05] <ogra> \sh, the right way is to use it like described in the PbuilderHowto on the wiki
[06:05] <whiskers> guerby, i have heard of alternative quicktime players but i have never used one myself
[06:05] <ZxC> MrNonchalant: So you just followed all the defaults on the install?
[06:05] <ogra> \sh, BUT YOU PROBABLY SHOULD WAIT UNTIL ITS CONTENT IS UPGRADED FOR BREEZY
[06:05] <\sh> ogra: shit...where was it...wait
[06:05] <ogra> OOPS
[06:05] <guerby> whiskers, on SuSE 9.2 I use mplayer and the packman repo has a package w32-codecs with about everything
[06:05] <\sh> ogra: well...i want to have something...so i need to make a package for myself ;)
[06:05] <ogra> my keyboard goes mad...sorry
[06:06] <ubuntuphile> I'm a newbie.  Any advice for getting a UMAX Astra 3400 scanner to work with Ubuntu Hoary?  usbview shows the scanner, but I think that while it is recognized at the hardware level, there just isn't a software driver for it. I've also tried with other distros, even Knoppix which is supposed to be good with this sort of thing. Should I just scrap this scanner and get another?  If so, what sort of scanner works well with Ubuntu?
[06:06] <bob2> ZxC: I'm pretty damn sure the defaults are fine
[06:06] <efbie> bob2: I've already looked here but there is only keyboard shorcuts. it is really annoying because it conflicts with every graphic applications.
[06:06] <whiskers> guerby, there is something called quicktime alternative at freecodecs.com
[06:06] <whiskers> guerby, but i have never used it myself
[06:06] <guerby> whiskers, thanks for the URL
[06:06] <bob2> ubuntuphile: probably way better off asking on the list, lists.ubuntu.com
[06:07] <bob2> ogra: or sbuild
[06:07] <ogra> bob2, yeah
[06:07] <guerby> whiskers, ok mplayer from multiverse comes with quicktime codec
[06:07] <ubuntuphile> will try lists.ubuntu.com --thanks bob2
[06:08] <ubuntoid> I've tried installing mplayer, but get dependency errors
[06:08] <guerby> whiskers, missing sound
[06:08] <ogra> ubuntoid, form the one in multiverse ?
[06:08] <whiskers> i am not sure where the freecodecs.com server is located...must be in Hungary
[06:08] <njs12345> if my friend is on warty and he upgrades now, will he upgrade to hoary?
[06:08] <ubuntoid> ogra:  Not sure where it was coming from, I assume so
[06:09] <ogra> ubuntoid, that shouldnt happen, its well tested
[06:09] <ubuntoid> I have multiverse in my sources.list
[06:09] <ogra> ubuntoid, please dont use marillat with hoary for mplayer packages
[06:09] <zoso_kubuntu> Anyone have any success getting the ati drivers to work with hoary? I've followed the guides with 0 sucess.
[06:09] <ogra> that will break dependencys...
[06:09] <bob2> ubuntoid: get rid of your marillat lines
[06:09] <ubuntoid> Can I specify a version to apt-get?  apt-get --source or something?
[06:10] <bob2> ubuntoid: yes, the manpage explains it
[06:10] <bob2> ubuntoid: hint: apt-get install blah=1.2.3
[06:10] <ogra> ubuntoid, just leave the marillat lines out
[06:10] <bob2> zoso_kubuntu: ignore everything aside from wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:11] <RealKillaz> where is "make" in ubuntu?
[06:11] <Bazzi> RealKillaz everywhere.
[06:11] <njs12345> RealKillaz: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <ogra> RealKillaz, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:11] <njs12345> ogra: :)
[06:12] <ogra> hmm, i'm getting old ;)
[06:13] <DocKane> hackeron: do you have an efficeon running ? what is you experience with it regarding perfomance ? (i will use it for scanning highres pictures with a nikon cool scan IV and an epson perfection 3200).
[06:13] <RealKillaz> guys my /cdrw disc is locked...
[06:13] <RealKillaz> how can I unlock it?
[06:13] <RealKillaz> cdrw drive*
[06:13] <andrewski> does anyone know which package controls the kubuntu cursors?
[06:13] <^thehatsrule^> umount?
[06:13] <cao30> tried eject?
[06:14] <bob2> andrewski: #kubuntu
[06:14] <ogra> RealKillaz, right click on the icon and eject it ?
[06:14] <DocKane> RealKillaz, umount -l /media/cdrom
[06:14] <DocKane> tried that ?
[06:14] <RealKillaz> ogra: nah I have the command line
[06:14] <andrewski> bob2: i'm there, but there are no devs around.  i seem to be one of the more savvy ones there. :P
[06:14] <RealKillaz> DocKane: lemme try that
[06:14] <ogra> RealKillaz, just: eject
[06:14] <andrewski> bob2: is it ubuntu-artwork?
[06:14] <RealKillaz> ogra: eject wont work
[06:14] <bob2> andrewski: no idea how kubuntu is doing it
[06:14] <cao30> hey RealKillaz, is there any 'fam' process running?
[06:14] <bob2> and I'm almost certain it will be kubuntu-specific
[06:14] <apokryphos> andrewski: why do you need to know?
[06:15] <apokryphos> bob2: it uses the same one as GNOME, so not sure whether that makes it unlikely.
[06:15] <andrewski> apokryphos: the cursors don't work well in KDE, so i'm reporting a bug and want to know which package to tick.
[06:15] <hackeron> DocKane: I never tried an efficion, but I owned a crusoe 866mhz for a few years, the performance was more than fast enough. If not running a full DE, I couldnt tell the difference between it and my 3200+, I didnt do scanning, but I did do a lot of gimping and designed several sites on it and edited photos from my Canon S45 camera.
[06:15] <bendebian> zoso_kubuntu: i have a t41p with an ati fire t2 and followed this guide and it works: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=22496&page=1&pp=10
[06:15] <bob2> erk
[06:15] <Nigelenki> you know
[06:15] <Nigelenki> the ubuntu installer
[06:15] <bob2> I wish people would stop using the forums like that
[06:16] <Nigelenki> looks great on a high definition flat panel WXGA
[06:16] <apokryphos> andrewski: since it's kubuntu settings (not KDE), you'd probably do best reporting it under kubuntu-default-settings. If that's wrong, they'll change it for you
[06:16] <bob2> if the BinaryDriverHowto on the wiki is broken, FIX IT
[06:16] <andrewski> ogra: could be.
[06:16] <Nigelenki> it's perfectly sharp and clear
[06:16] <cao30> has anybody gotten the X Compositing manager work with an ATI Radeon 9000?
[06:16] <DocKane> RealKillaz, any success ?
[06:16] <hackeron> DocKane: the efficeon benchmarks about 3-4 times faster than the crusoe, you shouldnt have any problems unless you are into 3d design or gaming.
[06:16] <bob2> don't spread the documentation out over thousands of "threads" on misc forums
[06:16] <andrewski> apokryphos: ok, sounds good.
[06:16] <RealKillaz> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom I did this and now... its locked
[06:17] <blight> hi all, having some jerky dvd playback in totem ... any suggestions?
[06:17] <RealKillaz> now I want to umount the /dev/cdrom it's telling me:
[06:17] <cao30> RealKillaz: try 'lsof /mnt/cdrom'
[06:17] <bob2> one of the big advantages of ubuntu is that the docs are centralised
[06:17] <RealKillaz> umount: /dev/hdc mount disagrees with the fstab
[06:17] <andrewski> bob2: can anyone edit the wiki docs?
[06:18] <apokryphos> andrewski: if you have an account, yes.
[06:18] <bob2> andrewski: of course (once you login)
[06:18] <DocKane> hackeron, no i am not going to use it for 3d stuff. buying silent systems for 3d stuff is somehow unaffordable for me (and if i could afford it i wouldnt pay the incredible prices)
[06:18] <mchasard> hi , is there a way to save config on a usb key or another device to retrieve it for a live cd use ?
[06:18] <bob2> RealKillaz: sudo umount /mnt/cdrom
[06:18] <andrewski> can anyone get an account?
[06:18] <apokryphos> yes
[06:18] <bob2> andrewski: yes
[06:18] <andrewski> sweet.
[06:18] <andrewski> because i've found the wikipages to be lacking, so it'd be nice to include.
[06:18] <bob2> every single page on the website has a link to the sign up page
[06:19] <penguin42> is there an ubuntu equivalent of the Debian tools to find which (uninstalled) package has a given file - I want to find the 'makeinfo' program - and apt-cache search found me a package but it doesn't have that in
[06:19] <mchasard> its reaally one thing its missing ...
[06:19] <bob2> penguin42: apt-file, same as in Debian
[06:19] <bob2> penguin42: apt-cache can never find files in packages
[06:19] <DocKane> hackeron, the waf is much more interesting (womens acceptance faktor) :P
[06:19] <penguin42> bob2: Oh - never used that on debian! I always used the dpkg bot on #debian and the package web pages
[06:20] <bob2> penguin42: someone made a contents search thing, it's linked from the front of the wiki
[06:20] <microo> s
[06:20] <penguin42> bob2: Damn - it doesn't find my file
[06:21] <bob2> texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo
[06:21] <RealKillaz> bob2: cool
[06:21] <TU2> Ok
[06:21] <liran> hmm
[06:21] <TU2> please help
[06:21] <liran> when ubuntu 5.04 ?
[06:21] <TU2> i can NOT get FGLRX drivers working for the life of me
[06:21] <TU2> i have no idea why
[06:21] <bob2> liran: www.ubuntu.com (it already came out)
[06:21] <nullgambit> how do i disable ipv6?
[06:21] <TU2> i tried the thing an it just dosnt' work
[06:21] <liran> i mean when ubuntu 5.08
[06:21] <bob2> TU2: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriveRHowto
[06:21] <bob2> liran: um, in october
[06:21] <TU2> bob2 i read that
[06:21] <bob2> nullgambit: why?
[06:22] <TU2> and it just does not work.
[06:22] <penguin42> bob2: Ta - ah, I hadn't grok'd that apt-file has a seperate database and needed an update first
[06:22] <bob2> TU2: and you followed the instructions exactly?
[06:22] <TU2> 100%
[06:22] <bob2> command-for-command?
[06:22] <TU2> i tried it twice
[06:22] <TU2> yes.
[06:22] <nullgambit> cause i don't need it
[06:22] <TU2> THERES 3 fucking commands
[06:22] <TU2> i am not retarded
[06:22] <microo> s
[06:22] <darkersatanic> TU2: If it's any consolation, it doesn't work on my machine either. I just get a segfault.
[06:22] <bob2> TU2: dude, chill out
[06:22] <darkersatanic> I'm running on AMD64.
[06:22] <TU2> at least a segfault means something
[06:22] <TU2> mine just dosn't work.
[06:22] <bob2> "doesn't work" is not something anyone can help you debug
[06:22] <darkersatanic> Sorry, kernel oops, not segfault.
[06:23] <TU2> well we can start with this
[06:23] <liran> bob2 please check your pm for a sec
[06:23] <TU2> when i run glrxinfo i get
[06:23] <bob2> liran: no
[06:23] <microo> s
[06:23] <bob2> liran: if you have a question, ask it in the channel
[06:23] <flodine> does ubuntu 64 bit have gdeklets
[06:23] <bob2> microo: can you stop doing that please?
[06:23] <TU2> direct rendering: No
[06:23] <flodine> or muine
[06:23] <bob2> flodine: you mean the amd64 port? yes.
[06:23] <TU2> I don't know why dri would be off
[06:23] <bob2> flodine: indeed.
[06:23] <TU2> that should be turned on.
[06:23] <liran> bob2 please check it just this time
[06:23] <AndyR> glx works fine here on gf4 on i686
[06:23] <bob2> TU2: grep DRI /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[06:23] <EddieX> Is there some way to find out how an specifik application has been built ?
[06:23] <bob2> TU2: what does that print out?
[06:23] <and1> hej jena me bertin ketu
[06:23] <bob2> EddieX: you download the Ubuntu source package
[06:24] <bob2> and1: this is an English channel
[06:24] <TU2>         Load    "dri"
[06:24] <and1> inspektorin e krimeve
[06:24] <EddieX> bob2, Ok, thanks
[06:24] <microo> bob2 i'm trying to change the color of my text and i don't know how it is always gray
[06:24] <bob2> TU2: then please file a bug on the linux-restricted-modules package
[06:24] <TU2> Uhh.
[06:24] <darkersatanic> AndyR: I can't either. I bought an AMD64.
[06:24] <TU2> thats it?
[06:24] <TU2> there is nothing else?
[06:24] <TU2> it just dosn't work so there?
[06:24] <TU2> wtf.
[06:24] <penguin42> AndyR: They are getting cheaper; especially the older Itanium 1s
[06:24] <darkersatanic> AndyR: IA64 is Itanium.
[06:24] <bob2> TU2: dude, please chill out
[06:24] <TU2> there has to be something.
[06:24] <bob2> TU2: and stop being so goddamn rude
[06:24] <Rumo> anyone here using lirc?
[06:24] <AndyR> darkersatanic, i know
[06:25] <bob2> TU2: if you file a bug, then one of the X experts in ubuntu can look into it and fix it for you
[06:25] <whiskers> guerby, you say you are missing sound
[06:25] <TU2> you say this as if filing a bug report is simple.
[06:25] <whiskers> guerby, what player are you using
[06:25] <guerby> whiskers, now solved
[06:25] <bob2> TU2: how is it complicated?
[06:25] <samuel> sup all
[06:25] <guerby> took me a while to compute the exact marillat line to add to synaptic
[06:25] <whiskers> guerby, ha....you guys are very lucky
[06:25] <TU2> could this mean something
[06:25] <TU2> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:3:0:0"
[06:25] <TU2> (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver.
[06:25] <TU2> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[06:25] <bob2> TU2: include your X log, the output of 'dmesg', 'lspci' and 'lspci -n'.
[06:25] <bob2> TU2: do not paste it in here
[06:26] <samuel> does anyone know how to put the CPU into low frequency mode when the laptop is on batteries?
[06:26] <bob2> samuel: powernowd should do that automatically
[06:26] <bob2> TU2: if you have a problem filing a bug, please ask for help
[06:26] <mindmedic> samuel, look for cpufreq or acpi throttling
[06:26] <TU2> Ok.
[06:26] <TU2> where is the bug subitting page.
[06:26] <samuel> bob2, mindmedic thanks
[06:26] <bob2> TU2: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:27] <bob2> TU2: you need to sign up, unfortunately
[06:27] <guerby> whiskers, the only thing would be to add to the wiki page the exact line for marillat
[06:27] <TU2> Because you know. i wanted to boot into windows to check my email.
[06:27] <guerby> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[06:27] <TU2> i wonder if thunderbird runs under Wine
[06:27] <TU2> hehe
[06:27] <mindmedic> in dont understand that sudo stuff.. i know how to get root now, but since root doesn't have a password how do i create mysql databases or log into phpmyadmin?
[06:27] <guerby> there are plenty of sentences but the exact line is nowhere to be found :)
[06:27] <KoMpLoT> Hi everyone!, would like to know if I can safely add some debian sources to ubuntu's apt sources.list
[06:28] <bob2> TU2: er, thunderbird runs fine on ubuntu
[06:28] <darkersatanic> KoMpLoT: It's not recommended, no.
[06:28] <guerby> since that was my first contact with debian...
[06:28] <TU2> bob2: True. but not with out messing things up on my NTFS drive :P
[06:28] <bob2> mindmedic: sudo mysql ...
[06:28] <KoMpLoT> darkersatanic, alright, thanks for the answer
[06:28] <Akrame> hi all , can someone tell me if it's possible to play wma files using Beep-Media-Player
[06:28] <bob2> Akrame: probably not
[06:28] <bob2> KoMpLoT: no, don't bother trying
[06:29] <mindmedic> bob2, and i set the mysql user password i like in the user manager?
[06:29] <michael_> hello all... I've got two MAJOR problems that I'm hoping someone could help me with
[06:29] <bob2> mindmedic: and I'd really really really hope you don't actually use your system root password with phpmysql
[06:29] <TU2> heres a real kicker. anyone know why XMMS would crash?
[06:29] <bob2> mindmedic: ok...
[06:29] <AndyR> michael_, we will try
[06:29] <bob2> TU2: if you're using proprietary graphics drivers, that can be enough
[06:29] <mindmedic> bob2, i don't run the server in public :)
[06:29] <TU2> I fucking despise ati.
[06:29] <michael_> the first is that flash has basically died... all I see in place of animations is a small yellow-brown rectangle
[06:29] <bob2> microo: please don't /msg people
[06:29] <michael_> it doesn't matter what browser i use
[06:30] <bob2> TU2: nvidia is worse
[06:30] <mindmedic> TU2, don't buy their cards
[06:30] <michael_> and the standalone player doesn't show anything either
[06:30] <TU2> They both suck under linux.
[06:30] <TU2> Random things break
[06:30] <darkersatanic> mindmedic: Bit late now that he's bought one.
[06:30] <penguin42> mindmedic: You don't have much choice on 3D
[06:30] <mindmedic> bob2, np with my 6600GT :)
[06:30] <TU2> i have heard nothing good from either.
[06:30] <TU2> and i like graphics cards.
[06:30] <TU2> i like to game.
[06:30] <bob2> TU2: if only they documented them properly, they coul both work great
[06:30] <bob2> TU2: you should email them with your thoughts
[06:30] <michael_> anyone else have problems with flash?
[06:30] <TU2> No... out of curiousity.
[06:30] <TU2> so*
[06:30] <darkersatanic> I must try the r300.sf.net drivers at some point. See if they're any good.
[06:31] <TU2> how would i go about listening to some mp3s
[06:31] <darkersatanic> They report being able to play Doom3 on them...
[06:31] <AndyR> i think we should be thankful they (ati & nvidia) are even producing xservers
[06:31] <crimsun> michael_: what sort?
[06:31] <Rumo> try amaroK - TU2
[06:31] <bob2> TU2: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:31] <bob2> encouraging ubuntu users to install amarok seems a bit silly
[06:31] <michael_> crimsun: no animations will display, either on webpages or using the standalone swf player
[06:32] <Rumo> i'm using kubuntu, bob2 *gg*
[06:32] <cavediver> Anyone knows how to mount or extract iso images ?
[06:32] <TU2> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:32] <bob2> AndyR: they aren't producing X servers, they're producing binary-only drivers
[06:32] <TU2> ogg sucks :P
[06:32] <crimsun> michael_: hmm, I don't know of that one; I know of the sound one
[06:32] <Rumo> and amaroK is really a great player
[06:32] <cavediver> Tried mount -o loop, but it don't work.
[06:32] <penguin42> cavediver: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /my/isoimage.iso /mnt/whereever
[06:32] <bob2> cavediver: did you forget to load the loop module?
[06:32] <tim_h_> I plan to switch 50+ Desktop PC from Debian testing to (k)ubuntu. Usually I deploy Debian with a refernce install copy it over using knoppix to the PCs HD. Will this work with kubuntu as well or are there any traps (Hardwaredetection)? The PCs have different Hardware.
[06:32] <bob2> cavediver: sudo modprobe loop
[06:32] <TU2> is there an APT log anywhere?
[06:32] <cavediver> bob2: i've tried that. Get this error
[06:32] <bob2> cavediver: something like kickstart might be a better option
[06:32] <AndyR> bob2, ok but at least they are in active development
[06:33] <TU2> that shows whats been installed and uninstalled?
[06:33] <michael_> crimsun: should i be using the macromedia version or the gpl version>
[06:33] <bob2> TU2: no
[06:33] <crimsun> TU2: no, try aptitude for that
[06:33] <cavediver> bob2: mount: Not a directory
[06:33] <bob2> TU2: aptitude does log it, tho
[06:33] <TU2> things like that make me a sad bear.
[06:33] <bob2> yet another reason to use it
[06:33] <crimsun> michael_: probably want the macromedia version
[06:33] <darksatanic> TU2: dpkg -l will show you the packages currently installed.
[06:33] <bob2> TU2: no, it should make you use aptitude
[06:33] <cavediver> Although the dir i try to mount it to is in fact a directory _?
[06:33] <TU2> fuck. i wanted to toally remove xmms
[06:33] <TU2> no chance no.w
[06:33] <bob2> cavediver: dide you load the loop module or not?
[06:33] <membreya> with the vga= option in grub, does anyone know if it's possible to go above 1024x768? I want 1152x864
[06:33] <bob2> TU2: sudo apt-get remove xmms
[06:33] <cavediver> bob2: yes it's loaded.
[06:33] <TU2> that dosn't remove the dependencies bob
[06:34] <bob2> playing games with the console are usually not worth it
[06:34] <bob2> just use X
[06:34] <michael_> crimsun: one last q regarding flash... should it show up (using firefox) in the plugins list?
[06:34] <bob2> TU2: yes, that's another thing aptitude would have handled for you (did I mention you should be using it instead of apt-get? ;0
[06:34] <ubuntu> i don't know
[06:34] <TU2> bob2,  is there an X interface?
[06:34] <andi_> join #ubuntu
[06:34] <FreezerX> When I came back home I noticed that ubuntu crashed in the meantime on my notebook. I saw a blank screen with a cursor blinking in the left upper corner. I dont know what that was. I had to reboot the system, content of some files, that I forget to save is gone...
[06:34] <cavediver> bob2: i do this. mount -o loop -t iso9660 /mnt/storage/file.iso /mnt/temp
[06:34] <TU2> i can't read the console version of it.
[06:34] <TU2> it's too small
[06:34] <bob2> TU2: er, so fix your terminal
[06:34] <cavediver> bob2: temps is an existing dir.
[06:35] <bob2> cavediver: what does 'lsmod | grep loop' print out?
[06:35] <mindmedic> bob2, i get "error: 'Access denied for user: 'mysql@localhost' (Using password: YES)'"
[06:35] <bob2> mindmedic: awesome
[06:35] <mindmedic> yep...
[06:35] <cavediver> bob2: will check
[06:35] <GarySaved> Does anyone know when work on the next version will start?
[06:35] <Rumo> Any lirc expertund?
[06:35] <bob2> mindmedic: did you read /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian and note that the mysql password is not the same as the system root one?
[06:35] <bob2> GarySaved: um, after the weekend?
[06:35] <mindmedic> nope
[06:35] <mindmedic> shame
[06:35] <Rumo> sorry, try again; Any lirc expert around?
[06:36] <cavediver> bob2: loop                   15888  0
[06:36] <mindmedic> thank you very much
[06:36] <bob2> Rumo: I'd really just try the list
[06:36] <cavediver> it says
[06:36] <AndyR> GarySaved, it has started afaik
[06:36] <fab31> does someone have a tablet ?
[06:36] <fab31> where can I get the xorg-SDK ?
[06:36] <fab31> ( I suppose, include files)
[06:36] <bob2> cavediver: mkdir /tmp/foo ;  mount -o loop -t iso9660 /mnt/storage/file.iso /tmp/foo
[06:36] <bob2> fab31: xlibs-dev
[06:36] <fab31> oooh
[06:36] <fab31> thanks
[06:36] <FreezerX> mindmedic: grant all on yourdb.* to 'mysql'@'localhost' identified by 'yourpassword'
[06:36] <bob2> fab31: assuming you mean "Which package contains the X client headers?"
[06:36] <michael_> anyone here using an external hard drive experience unusual problems?
[06:37] <bob2> mindmedic: 2.6.10's usb stuff seems mildly broken for me
[06:37] <TU2> where is this amarok stuff
[06:37] <bob2> er, michael_
[06:37] <TU2> i won't to install it.
[06:37] <fab31> bob2: yep, must be that, I was searching "xorg..."
[06:37] <TU2> want
[06:37] <dj28> michael_, i use an external USB drive just fine
[06:37] <michael_> because both nautilus and Terminal lock up if I try and access any directory further than 2 folders down
[06:38] <michael_> it's fat32
[06:38] <bob2> michael_: 'lock up'?
[06:38] <T6> any dmesg output?
[06:38] <bob2> michael_: nothing in your kernel log?
[06:38] <cavediver> bob2: It's still mount: Not a directory
[06:38] <michael_> yeah... endlessly reading the directory
[06:38] <michael_> no dmesg output
[06:38] <membreya> hmmm what would people recommend...koffice or oo.o?
[06:39] <michael_> i checked the drive using fsck and a surface scan and it's good
[06:39] <cavediver> bob2: however it's a 2.3 GB isofile, if that would cause a problem.
[06:39] <michael_> bob2: i'm assuming the kernel log is in /var
[06:39] <steveO_Laptop> What is needed please help - >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[06:39] <steveO_Laptop> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[06:39] <michael_> bob2: but where exactly
[06:40] <penguin42> membreya: oo.o
[06:40] <felipe_> steveO_Laptop apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[06:40] <RealKillaz> what is the location of the C header files of ubuntu?
[06:40] <GarySaved> membreya, oo.o is compatible with anything.   :P
[06:40] <TU2> i can't read
[06:40] <felipe_> or you can use synaptic to install it
[06:40] <TU2> it's like being blind.
[06:40] <steveO_Laptop> thanks
[06:40] <crimsun> fab31: please use the search feature on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <penguin42> TU2: That is why the preboxed commercial versions come with vallium
[06:40] <cavediver> bob2: isn't there like a program that can extract those iso files insted of mounting them ?
[06:40] <fab31> ok, thanks
[06:41] <RealKillaz> penguin: ok, but i think I need the header files of he kernel
[06:41] <flodine> 64 bit running cool on ubuntu guys
[06:41] <bob2> TU2: maybe your dpi setting is broken
[06:41] <penguin42> Anyone know how I can add a custom key-shortcut on gnome - the edit keyboard shortcut only lets me edit existing ones
[06:41] <TU2> No.
[06:41] <zenrox> cavediver, it be easer to mount iso's then extract files than it is the jsut extrack them
[06:41] <TU2> it is ME
[06:41] <bob2> TU2: or you just didn't configure it the way you want it
[06:41] <RealKillaz> so I should install the kernel files first using apt-get...
[06:41] <TU2> i am halgf friggen blind
[06:41] <TU2> i need glasses
[06:41] <michael_> penguin42: yes, you must use gconf
[06:41] <TU2> but in windows i had it setup so i could read it.
[06:41] <penguin42> michael_: Ah ok
[06:42] <cavediver> zenrox: yes but that doesn't work, so i'm looking for alternative ways
[06:42] <TU2> not to mention the Ubuntu Xchat looks awuful.
[06:42] <TU2> hehe
[06:42] <bob2> fab31: use the apt-file command
[06:42] <michael_> penguin42: i'll give you the keys
[06:42] <cavediver> bob2: I'm running 64 bit ubuntu alsoi
[06:42] <zenrox> cavediver,  you need to apt-get install loop
[06:42] <cavediver> hmm...
[06:42] <zenrox> then modprobe loop
[06:42] <membreya> ok GarySaved just that OO.o 2 doesn't work on amd64
[06:42] <penguin42> michael_: yeh?
[06:42] <fab31> huh.... no packages seems to own it :/
[06:42] <michael_> penguin42: the appropriate keys are in /apps/metacity
[06:42] <chunghau> hi peoples, anyone here using LVM with ubuntu? i'm trying to extend my lv
[06:42] <cavediver> zenrox: there is no loop package apt says.
[06:42] <bob2> zenrox: um, no, he/she does't have to install that package
[06:43] <bob2> that package doesn't exist
[06:43] <Zer0G> hey guys..how do i re-enable 3d support on my nvidia card .. somewher in the kernel upgrade it got disabled
[06:43] <bob2> the loop module is in the standard kernel package
[06:43] <zenrox> bob2,  but you know what i mean right
[06:43] <hunger> chunghau: lvresize does the trick.
[06:43] <michael_> penguin42: you need to edit "global_keybindings" to have a shortcut put to a custom command
[06:43] <bob2> Zer0G: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:43] <cavediver> zenrox: i've done the modprobe loop stuff.
[06:43] <bob2> zenrox: only the modprobe is neccessary
[06:43] <michael_> penguin42: then define that command in "keybinding_commands"
[06:43] <michael_> make sense?
[06:43] <Zer0G> bob2: thanks..i'll chaeck it out
[06:43] <penguin42> michael_: So I set one for run_command_5 say and then set keybinding_commands to the command - ah ok  - snap; hmm not exaclty obvious but I should be able to do it!
[06:44] <michael_> pengin42: that's it
[06:44] <bob2> cavediver: I don't know else might be wrong.  try asking on the list, I guess.
[06:44] <cavediver> This should be so simple, insted it is f*cking frustrating. I need to get the contents of this iso now :()
[06:44] <zenrox> now cavediver  do a mount -t iso9660 -o loop /the/location/of/the.iso /mnt/iso
[06:44] <per02> is there a way to remove laptop-detect without removing the entire system?
[06:44] <FreezerX> Is it possible to play FarCry on Ubuntu? :-)
[06:44] <cavediver> zenrox: well i have tried that a gazillion timed. It just doesn't work I'm afraid :=)
[06:44] <zenrox> hmm
[06:44] <stelt> install CD spins, getting a booting from CD message and then it just boots in Windows, which i want to get rid of. any idea?
[06:44] <cavediver> zenrox: mount: Not a directory
[06:45] <bob2> per02: why do you want to remove it?
[06:45] <chunghau> hunger: is it like lvextend? my problem is that according to /etc/mtab my lv is /dev/mapper/vg0-lv0, but when I try to point to it for lvextend, it doesn't exist (since the only thing under /dev/mapper is "control")
[06:45] <bob2> FreezerX: appdb.codeweavers.com
[06:45] <cavediver> Although my target IS a directory.
[06:45] <cavediver> Really strange i think
[06:45] <bob2> FreezerX: assuming you're refering to some windowssoftware
[06:45] <bob2> cavediver: did you really try /tmp/foo/?
[06:45] <per02> bob2: cuz i have no need for it... i was trimming down the system, removing stuff that i don't use
[06:45] <FreezerX> I mean with crossover or vmware
[06:45] <zenrox> cavediver,  you need to put a sudo in front of the command and you need to make a dir for you to mount a iso
[06:45] <cavediver> My iso files is not cd images but dvd images though
[06:45] <hunger> chunghau: Are you sure your LVM is properly set up and working?
[06:45] <cavediver> bob2: yes tried that one too.
[06:45] <bob2> cavediver: lord
[06:45] <bob2> cavediver: sure they're not UDF then?
[06:45] <hunger> chunghau: I have lots of blockdevs in /etc/mapper
[06:45] <TU2> bob2, I am trying to submit a bug report but it says i need to add a component. what does that mena?
[06:46] <per02> bob2: i know it's probably just a few kb in size, but that's not something the entire system should depend on
[06:46] <penguin42> michael_: And when does it get active?
[06:46] <cavediver> bob2: haven't got a clue on that one actually ?
[06:46] <bob2> TU2: presumably linux-restricted-modules
[06:46] <bob2> cavediver: bah
[06:46] <bob2> cavediver: then try that instead of iso9660
[06:46] <cavediver> bob2: i see.
[06:46] <michael_> penguin42: it ought to be active immediately
[06:46] <bob2> per02: the whole system doesn't depend on it
[06:46] <cavediver> bob2: will try it.
[06:46] <bob2> per02: just the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:46] <TU2> i don't see where it would want that
[06:46] <bob2> per02: you can remove that if yo uwant, but then you're on your own when it comes to upgrades
[06:47] <cavediver> bob2: no, that gave me wrong fs type.
[06:47] <cavediver> hmmm
[06:47] <zafar> hello, i've been trying to update my hoary preview to the final for the last 2 days using apt but i have been unable to
[06:47] <pont> Does the ubuntu installer allow me to use ReiserFS for my filesystem ?
[06:47] <penguin42> michael_: Ah yes that's done it - it doesn't balk at values it doesn't like - you have to dig them out of .xession-errors
[06:47] <bob2> zafar: "unable to do so"?
[06:47] <bob2> pont: yes
[06:47] <zafar> first the repos were down and now when it connects it only hits a 14b file and says there are no upgrades
[06:47] <TU2> ummm.
[06:47] <TU2> lame.
[06:47] <michael_> penguin42: that's right... it's very open-ended
[06:47] <per02> bob2, hmm... thx, i'll see what i can do then
[06:47] <bob2> zafar: nothing much has changed in the past few days
[06:47] <TU2> what if it is longer that 65535 chars
[06:47] <pont> bob2, Hmm, When does it prompt you, since I didn't notice it doing such
[06:47] <TU2> how do you err. add more
[06:48] <bob2> TU2: what if *what* is longer than that?
[06:48] <rrfsh> hello
[06:48] <TU2> the bug report
[06:48] <bob2> pont: in the partition section, don't chose the defaults
[06:48] <penguin42> michael_: Don't suppose you know what the magic for scrolllock is (on the basis it ain't used for anything else)
[06:48] <TU2> the description
[06:48] <pont> hmm
[06:48] <pont> ok
[06:48] <bob2> TU2: the description won't be longer than 65535
[06:48] <zafar> well there have been no upgrades at all when there use to be like 40 a day lol
[06:48] <jeepston> hi everyone
[06:48] <bob2> zafar: yes, it released
[06:48] <pont> bob2, does it have reiser4 ?
[06:48] <michael_> penguin42: one sec, i used to know the command to reveal the keyboard codes
[06:48] <bob2> pont: haha, no
[06:49] <pont> toobad :(
[06:49] <penguin42> michael_: I tried a xmodmap -pk | grep -i scroll    to no avail
[06:49] <TU2> bob2 it is.
[06:49] <RealKillaz> where is the README.Debian file for alien?
[06:49] <bob2> pont: you'd actually trust reiser4 with your root filesystem?
[06:49] <michael_> penguin42: got it, this is the reference site i used
[06:49] <michael_> penguin42: http://foolish.fedorausers.org/gnome_keyboard_shortcuts/
[06:49] <bob2> RealKillaz: there probably isn't one.  why?
[06:49] <bob2> TU2: no, add your logs as an attachment
[06:49] <zafar> were there new packages released on the 8th cause i stayed up til past midnight trying to upgrade and then on the afternoon of the 8th
[06:49] <TU2> You can attact?
[06:49] <TU2> where
[06:49] <elocal> is the ntfs resizing during install working or not?
[06:49] <RealKillaz> cause I'm trying to use rpm.. but I getthe message use alien instead of rpm
[06:49] <pont> bob2, There dosn't seem to be THAT many bugs :P
[06:49] <penguin42> michael_: Ah neat thanks!
[06:49] <bob2> TU2: bah, after you file it
[06:50] <bob2> pont: any bug is a problem
[06:50] <elocal> is it integrated in the installer, or does it has to be done manually?
[06:50] <whiskers> that is amazing...ubuntu is still ranking the #1 distro at distrowatch for many many days now
[06:50] <bob2> RealKillaz: read the manpage for it