[02:45] <darkcrab> because it sucks
[02:45] <orudie> NinjaPlimsoles: which terminal command is for creating an empty txt file ?
[02:45] <Starnestommy> orudie: touch file.txt
[02:45] <NinjaPlimsoles> beat me to it :P
[02:45] <amenado> bazhang-> i tried a bit further...install the ubuntu from that livecd(from hd now) but am running into a lil problem, it did not create the stage 1 1.5 and 2
[02:45] <cellofellow> D-Unit: you could fit one ISO file. I suggest using AcidRip and encoding to XviD or x264 to save some space.
[02:45] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  i would suggest compressing the indvidual files, not the whole disk.
[02:45] <Ezra> bellad: try to open the file from the menu in the editor. this has worked for me
[02:46] <NinjaPlimsoles> orudie, or type nano, edit, then save
[02:46] <D-Unit> cellofellow, i want the dvd to be exactly like my original xept compressed to a 4.7 gb dvd
[02:46] <BellaD> which menu?
[02:46] <knoppix_> have been duel booting and reinstalled window with xp pro how do i rewrite grub to the mbr ?
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> !info k9copy | D-Unit
[02:47] <ubotu> d-unit: k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[02:47] <bazhang> amenado: that sounds like a fun challenge ;]
[02:47] <orudie> which terminal command is for opening and editting a txt file ?
[02:47] <NinjaPlimsoles> orudie, nano
[02:47] <kiss_son> knoppix_ use dd in some live cd
[02:47] <amenado> bazhang-> so am searching the script that install uses to create the stage 1 1.5 and 2
[02:47] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, k9copy rips and converts directly to ~4.7 gb?
[02:47] <knoppix_> i am in knoppix right now how do i use dd ?
[02:48] <cellofellow> D-Unit: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/file.iso
[02:48] <kiss_son> u need a image of the a grub mbr
[02:48] <D-Unit> cellofellow, i dint understand that
[02:48] <cellofellow> D-Unit: now you have a full-size ISO file. Now run bzip2 on it and it will get a bit smaller.
[02:48] <Logan> right well i'm off, for now.. lets see if this version works... if not then i don't know what else to do....
[02:48] <knoppix_> kiss_son how do i get one ?
[02:49] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles, so in closing, u think i should just re-install/
[02:49] <polishpaul_> my sound isn't working - fresh install on a laptop
[02:49] <SilentDis> hello, looking for some advice here on the best way to go about this...
[02:49] <NinjaPlimsoles> captine, i cant find anything on the net about it
[02:49] <spyd3r> anyone know anything about getting USB GamePads to work?
[02:49] <NinjaPlimsoles> captine, and its not something ive come across myself, im almost certain it was when you installed Xfce
[02:49] <BellaD> I don't know what to do
[02:49] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles,  i will need open office etc, which i dont think comes standard with xfce.  I would still be able to install all other apps in repo, right?  and get wifi to work using restricted drivers etc?
[02:50] <D-Unit> cellofellow, do u no of any windows freeware that i can use thru wine that would compress directly bcuz i have no internet on that comp and windows apps dont ask for dependencies
[02:50] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles, or would installing ati drivers, my modem and wifi be more console driven?
[02:50] <jrib> BellaD: you never answered my question
[02:50] <Dr_willis_> spyd3r,  often the games need to be configured to use /dev/input/js0  instead of /dev/js0
[02:50] <NinjaPlimsoles> captine, Xfce is just the WM
[02:50] <polishpaul_> I see 2 devices in sound pref - HDA Intel (alsa mixer) and Analog Devices AD1984 (OSS mixer)
[02:50] <dft> captine: what hardware are you running on?
[02:50] <cellofellow> D-Unit: DVD video and audio is already compressed, somewhat, using MPEG2. Compressing more, especially with a general purpose lossless algorithm like gzip or bzip2, will likely not work.
[02:50] <dft> I've been using xubuntu for some time now
[02:50] <Ezra> bellad: just a minute bellad.........
[02:50] <captine> presario turion 512mb ram
[02:50] <BellaD> i did jrib
[02:50] <dft> iirc oOo does come installed
[02:50] <cellofellow> D-Unit: both dd and bzip2 are included in a base system.
[02:50] <kiss_son> i have my own.......... or u need to find it somewhere e;se
[02:50] <kiss_son> else
[02:51] <jrib> BellaD: what is the full path to the file you are trying to edit?
[02:51] <captine> dft, shared memory
[02:51] <cellofellow> D-Unit: you may have to read the dd man file for some info.
[02:51] <D-Unit> cellofellow, no offense but u rely lose me with the way u talk
[02:51] <spyd3r> dr_willis_, the problem is that the buttons work in SMC but the d-pad does not
[02:51] <captine> dft for graphic. think is 1.8 or something processor.
[02:51] <cellofellow> D-Unit: ok, sorry. Did I skip something? Where'd I lose you?
[02:51] <captine> dft ati graphics
[02:51] <BellaD> etc modprobe.d alsa-base
[02:52] <jrib> BellaD: ok, now, what is the exact command you used to try to edit it?
[02:52] <kiss_son> or ask other guy to dd if=/dev/sda1 of=grub-imge.bin bs=512 count=1 to u
[02:52] <D-Unit> cellofellow, like "special words" like dd and bzip2 etc
[02:52] <cellofellow> D-Unit: are you familiar with the command line?
[02:52] <D-Unit> cellofellow, well somewat i guess
[02:52] <kiss_son> once grub is restored , make sure the menu.lst is ok on a active partition
[02:52] <D-Unit> cellofellow, like i dont avoid it
[02:53] <kiss_son> then it will be ok
[02:53] <NinjaPlimsoles> D-Unit, DD = data definition, bzip2 = compression method applied to a tar
[02:53] <cellofellow> D-Unit: ok, dd is a bitstream copyer thingy that you can use to make ISO images of CDs and DVDs, among many many other things.
[02:53] <BellaD> I was stupid enough to just open the file in an ordinary text editor and I pasted a text and now....
[02:53] <cellofellow> D-Unit: so, sudo dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/file.iso will create a copy of the input file (if) to the output file (of).
[02:54] <orudie> NinjaPlimsoles: have you ever installed phpBB ?
[02:54] <NinjaPlimsoles> orudie, nope :(
[02:54] <cellofellow> orudie: I did. :)
[02:54] <captine> dft what do u use your machine for?
[02:54] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles, how do i backup my evolution mails?  just copy folder?
[02:54] <SilentDis> got a 'puter running Ubuntu 6.10.  / partition is a bit small.  is it possible to enlarge / (hda1) and decrease the side of /home (hda2) without loosing data on /home?
[02:54] <jrib> BellaD: you can't do that.  First off, I strongly recommend you make a backup of the file first.  Then use sudo to edit it.  If you need a gui, use "gksudo gedit".  Make sure you know what you are doing
[02:54] <jrib> !sudo > bellad (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:54] <NinjaPlimsoles> captine, can you export the folder within evolution?
[02:55] <jrib> !who | BellaD
[02:55] <ubotu> BellaD: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:55] <irene> hi people
[02:55] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles, not sure.  let me google this one
[02:55] <NinjaPlimsoles> irene, hi :)
[02:55] <D-Unit> cellofellow, wat does that command do? compress?
[02:55] <irene> hi ninja
[02:55] <dft> <~~~...come on Irene!!...~~~>
[02:55] <NinjaPlimsoles> D-Unit, what command? :)
[02:55] <jrib> dft: please don't do that
[02:55] <livefoniks> How many times?
[02:55] <D-Unit> NinjaPlimsoles, sudo dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/file.iso
[02:56] <orudie> cellofellow: trying to install phpBB3, cant install because cant find database, and i have mySQL 5 installed
[02:56] <irene> actually i'm not irene, i'm the guy who mount ubuntu on her laptop
[02:56] <NinjaPlimsoles> D-Unit, thats just a data copier
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,   this is when it pays to learn the command line basics, and some other guides.   You are going through a lot of work to make/compress a .iso image for very little gain to be honest.
[02:56] <Ezra> bellad: there is a lot of different text editors in the distro. they are all pretty  similar and the point is that you need root privileges to make changes to files. i can post the changes in the file for you if you want. there's just one line.......just remember to not get too frustrated. take a break every once in a while.
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  when to actally use the iso files later - you will need to uncompress them.
[02:56] <Bossmanbeta> hi Dr_willis
[02:56] <Bossmanbeta> hi SilentDis
[02:56] <irene> guys can you help me with something?
[02:56] <BellaD> ok jrib
[02:56] <SilentDis> got a 'puter running Ubuntu 6.10.  / partition is a bit small.  is it possible to enlarge / (hda1) and decrease the side of /home (hda2) without loosing data on /home? going to put 7.10 on as a fresh install.
[02:57] <polishpaul_> Need more help - installed U 7.1 on my lenovo T61 and i have no sound
[02:57] <Bossmanbeta> SilentDis, Try Gparted
[02:57] <irene> i have a problem with my tv card
[02:57] <SilentDis> Bossmanbeta: it will allow a resize without destroying the data?
[02:57] <NinjaPlimsoles> SilentDis, and dont do it too often or your HDD will cry
[02:57] <irene> is a pinacle pctv stereo
[02:57] <Bossmanbeta> SilentDis, yes ...
[02:57] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, isnt there a windows app that will compress and encode at the same time that way i dont need the xtra hd space and then i can just burn the files to a disc like dvdxcopy did on windows but i dont like that message in begining
[02:57] <polishpaul_> SilentDis, i'm not sure about shrinking a partition.. but enlarging should be doable
[02:57] <irene> i'm tring to use diferent tuner numbers
[02:58] <irene>  but i ca't find one
[02:58] <NinjaPlimsoles> polishpaul_, shrinking is deemed safer than enlarging
[02:58] <Bossmanbeta> SilentDis, you could also temporarily move data to an external USB drive to make the job easier, then put the data back
[02:58] <cellofellow> D-Unit: there are dozens of compression utilities for Linux.
[02:58] <SilentDis> polishpaul_, Bossmanbeta: hmm.  maybe i should just grab an extra drive, backup the data, and go that route.
[02:58] <polishpaul_> SilentDis, step 1 - backup.. always
[02:58] <D-Unit> cellofellow, k, i guess ill continue this later on cuz i have to go to bed cuz i have things to do early tomorow
[02:58] <Ezra> bellad: try adding this to your alsa-base file options snd-emu10k1-creative model=sblive!
[02:58] <polishpaul_> NinjaPlimsoles, is this the case with linux partitions?
[02:59] <D-Unit> cellofellow, thanks for ur efforts
[02:59] <NinjaPlimsoles> polishpaul_, any partition :)
[02:59] <D-Unit> and the rest also
[02:59] <SilentDis> polishpaul_: it's my mom's computer.  to say she's not backing up regularly is an understatement.  guess i should just do it anyway lol
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  i dont mess with such things in windows.. and   i dont find the compression of .iso dvd files to be worth the time it takes to compress them. You  seem to be getting diffrent steps mixxed up. theres 'reencoding' a 9+gb dvd video to a 4gb disk sized image.. thats ONE step/task. then theres the compression of the 4 .iso files thats a totally unreleated task.
[02:59] <BellaD> Ezra thank you
[02:59] <Bossmanbeta> SilentDis, I agree -- backyup your critical data before doing anything ... but to make the resize easier, move it offline, then resize, then move it back
[02:59] <BellaD> I am tired out now I will go to bed
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  you dont ust compress a 9gb dvd  to fit on a 4gb disk and be playeable.. You have to reencode it. thats what k9copy does - i belive
[02:59] <polishpaul_> SilentDis, you may want to 'image' your partition with partition-save then if something goes awry, just reimage
[03:00] <BellaD> Thank you Ezra take care
[03:00] <NinjaPlimsoles> Dr_willis, iso's are compressed? o.O
[03:00] <polishpaul_> SilentDis, but a simple copy should do the trick :)
[03:00] <Ezra> bellad: again, from the land of oz......no worries
[03:00] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, ya but does it do all that without exceeding 9gb of space or does it need to recopy the whole dvd but decrypted then have to shrink it and waste additional temporary space (which wont be possible due to my lack of hd space)?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> NinjaPlimsoles,  the files ON them  :) are the issue.  hes getting several different things mixxed up i think.
[03:00] <SilentDis> polishpaul_: the more i think of it... the more i don't wanna deal with this in the future.  i think i have an extra 40gb drive sitting around anyway.  it's going in the box lol
[03:00] <Bossmanbeta> SilentDis, Gparted comes in a bootable ISO so you can cleanly play with the partitions without mounting them
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  no idea. I dont worry abotu disk space. :)
[03:01] <NinjaPlimsoles> Dr_willis, just burn a tar.bz2 to disc? lol
[03:01] <Dr_willis_> NinjaPlimsoles,  use rar. :)
[03:01] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, k, well does k9copy require dependencies?
[03:01] <D-Unit> cuz i rely hate those
[03:01] <D-Unit> :(
[03:01] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  most likely theres some.. thats what the package manager is all about.. it handles it.
[03:01] <arrrghhh> hey all.  just wondering where usb devices mount in /dev.  my girlfriend's ipod is showing up in lsusb, but it's not showing up on her desktop like it usually does.
[03:01] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, package manager?
[03:01] <NinjaPlimsoles> D-Unit, if you use apt-get it will meet its dependencies
[03:01] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  i never have problems with dependenciues.. apt-get or synaptic grab them as needed
[03:02] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, o that ya but im talkin bout a comp thats not connected to internet
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  if you dont understand how apt-get, synaptic and so forth work.. its time to read some Ubuntu beginner guides.
[03:02] <bruenig> beware of meta-packages though
[03:02] <bruenig> total fail
[03:02] <SilentDis> brb
[03:02] <NinjaPlimsoles> meta-package = boom
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> D-Unit,  I dont mess with non-connected stuff.. sorry. theres ways to do it. I just dont  do  that stuff.
[03:02] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, no, i do, its just i have no internet and had looked to apt-zip but dont no how to use that either
[03:02] <tony__> hi
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> i would just connect it to the net with a cable , install stuff.. then  remove cable. :)
[03:02] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, k, well anyway i rely need to sleep now
[03:03] <Dr_willis_> work time for me. Byeee
[03:03] <D-Unit> Dr_willis, thx
[03:03] <tony__> dr willis hi
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> d-unit Look into aptoncd if you have a friend with internet access
[03:04] <arrrghhh> anyone?
[03:04] <NinjaPlimsoles> captine, sorry i couldnt be that much help
[03:05] <Kalamansi> hello which is stable 6.10 or 7.10 desktop and server?
[03:05] <arrrghhh> Kalamansi, uh... both?
[03:05] <nickrud> Kalamansi:   both, 7.10 is newer
[03:06] <Kalamansi> ok ill use 7.10
[03:06] <Kalamansi> thanks
[03:06] <NobleArc> Why must defragging a hard drive take so damn long? =\
[03:06] <NinjaPlimsoles> NobleArc, zeroing one with 4 passes takes longer :P
[03:06] <icesword> how would i disable deskbar-applet at boot
[03:07] <NobleArc> blah.
[03:07] <NobleArc> I just want to put Ubuntu on ze lappy... well, dual-boot it, like I've got on my main machine, but I don't want to wait for it to defrag first, before partitioning. =\
[03:08] <NinjaPlimsoles> NobleArc, why defrag something thats being partitioned? the files wont be scattered if they dont exist ;)
[03:08] <icesword> how would i disable deskbar-applet at boot
[03:08] <NobleArc> I plan on resizing my current partition to make room for Ubuntu, without removing XP.
[03:08] <Roooty> Hi, all my icons (like folder or file icons) just all went generic-blank-paper icon. Anyone know the solution?
[03:09] <jrib> icesword: remove it from your panel
[03:09] <victamower> I've installed a package and modified it's configuration in /etc, now I'd like to restore the default configuration
[03:09] <NinjaPlimsoles> NobleArc, aaaaaah, yeah wait for defrag to finish or you might get files caught in the deflate
[03:09] <victamower> is there any way to do that without uninstalling and reinstalling it?
[03:09] <NobleArc> Yeah, I've had it happen once on an older box.  Didn't lose anything, as I had backups..
[03:09] <NobleArc> but still.
[03:09] <NobleArc> Don't want to deal with it.
[03:09] <icesword> jrib, maybe that is not right,i don't that process at boot
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> NobleArc, Dont even think of repartitioning before defragging, and I usually recommend two passes at defrag to be sure.
[03:10] <icesword> i don't want that process
[03:10] <NinjaPlimsoles> Jack_Sparrow, he wasnt
[03:10] <jrib> icesword: deskbar-applet only loads when you login
[03:10] <NobleArc> Iv
[03:10] <icesword> running in background
[03:10] <NobleArc> I've already defragged it with two programs, now I'm using Microsoft's built-in one.
[03:10] <arrrghhh> so where are usb devices listed in /dev?  i have an ipod that is showing up in lsusb, but won't appear on the desktop like it normally does
[03:10] <jrib> icesword: right click on it, remove from panel.  Let me know if it still starts next time you login
[03:10] <icesword> jrib, so you mean,if i remove it,it won't load again,even in background
[03:10] <Scunizi> NobleArc, are you defragging a windows box? if so you might want to do it from the "safe mode"
[03:10] <owh> This is going to sound like a dumb question, but can someone remind me how I can "apt-get source" from a different version other than my current OS, that is, I'm running Feisty and I want to apt-get source from Hardy.
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> NobleArc, the less free space on the drive the longer it takes to defrag
[03:10] <icesword> jrib, k
[03:11] <NobleArc> I know, Jack_Sparrow.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> owh, Dont. it wont work
[03:11] <arrrghhh> owh, don't do it.  why would you want to?
[03:11] <nickrud> owh: add the source repo for hardy
[03:11] <NobleArc> I'm going to be running a defragger at boot time, Scunizi, so it can move the system files.
[03:11] <owh> Jack_Sparrow: I am not compiling it, I just need to get the source.
[03:11] <NinjaPlimsoles> right nighty night folks! 3am is an admirable bedtime
[03:11] <arrrghhh> owh, you can download the source online
[03:11] <owh> nickrud: How will I then access that repo?
[03:12] <icesword> jrib, what about if i remove that update notifier
[03:12] <Scunizi> NinjaPlimsoles, you must be east of me and over the pond
[03:12] <jrib> icesword: what about it?
[03:12] <nickrud> owh: if you're not sure, getting the source from packages.ubuntu.com would be simpler
[03:12] <captine> NinjaPlimsoles, no problem.  i will just re-install in a bit.  just burning the cd quickly
[03:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> Scunizi, correct :P
[03:12] <owh> nickrud: Will that get me access to Hardy's version?
[03:12] <nickrud> owh: yes
[03:12] <icesword> jrib, is it ok,if i remove that icon,that update-notifier won't run background
[03:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> Scunizi, im also suffering from wisdom tooth pain, and a blocked nose
[03:12] <owh> nickrud: Excellent, tah.
[03:13] <Scunizi> NinjaPlimsoles, go to bed already..! you need a break
[03:13] <jrib> icesword: I'm pretty sure there is a cron job that will update your repository list if that is what you mean
[03:13] <etell> \join #ubuntu-devel
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> owh, that will get you access to a source file in that repo but if you are not going to compile what are you going to do with it
[03:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> Scunizi, what can I say.. i like helping :(
[03:13] <owh> For those shaking their heads, I'm needing to make a debdiff of a bug fix, but I need to have the current Hardy version so it can be used when Hardy is released.
[03:14]  * nickrud shakes head at owh
[03:14] <jetscreamer> when is Laurel coming out?
[03:14] <Alan_M> why not just get the hardy cd when it becomes official?
[03:14] <LeChacal> if i need a ton of packages and there dependencies that are only in the Debian repository is there a fast way to get them all other then searching and downloading them all by hand. These files are the dependencies for Debian Cluster Components.
[03:14] <owh> Alan_M: Because this bug fix will be on that cd.
[03:14] <arrrghhh> so where are usb devices listed in /dev?  i have an ipod that is showing up in lsusb, but won't appear on the desktop like it normally does
[03:14] <jrib> owh: why not setup a chroot or virtualbox if you want to do things lie that?
[03:14] <owh> nickrud: :-) Any alternative suggestions?
[03:14] <Alan_M> wouldnt..that..be..a better idea?
[03:14] <jetscreamer> LeChacal: apt-pinning perhaps
[03:15] <chuck> is there a new ubuntu release soon or something
[03:15] <owh> jrib: The fix is a one-liner to a bash script.
[03:15] <Alan_M> chuck, yup
[03:15] <Cpudan80> chuck: april
[03:15] <Alan_M> hardy
[03:15] <owh> jrib: Seems a tad overkill.
[03:15] <nickrud> owh: that was a joke. And, running hardy in a vm would be a useful method
[03:15] <Alan_M> its coming out officially in april chuck :)
[03:15] <Cpudan80> Has the artwork for Hardy been decided on yet?
[03:15] <chuck> oh i get this: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-torrents/torrents.html
[03:15] <NinjaPlimsoles> arrrghhh, /dev/sdax
[03:15] <Cpudan80> guess I should ask +
[03:15] <jrib> owh: yes, if this is all you are doing
[03:15] <owh> nickrud: Sorry, 747 over my head :)
[03:15] <Cpudan80> +1*
[03:15] <arrrghhh> chuck, there's a 6 month release cycle with ubuntu.  so every april and october it seems.
[03:16] <arrrghhh> NinjaPlimsoles, hrm... ok.
[03:16] <owh> All good, thanks all.
[03:16] <chuy_max> hi, I might have found a bug in ktechlab, should I report this to ubuntu, or kde?
[03:16] <nickrud> owh: install virtualbox, and install hardy in that. #ubuntu+1 coould help you set up
[03:16] <owh> nickrud: I will as soon as I have some disk space to burn, right now I'm just hanging on :)
[03:16] <Alan_M> chuy_max, I would say Kubuntu..is it a kubuntu program?
[03:16] <SilentDis> quick question for everyone.  from your experiences, what is a decent size for a / partition (excluding /home, including /tmp) for a more 'average' user?
[03:17] <nickrud> SilentDis: 10-15 gb would be spacious
[03:17] <Alan_M> yeah
[03:17] <SilentDis> nickrud: would i run into issue with 8gb?
[03:17] <Alan_M> ive got like 40+gb SilentDis, and ive yet to run out
[03:17] <owh> nickrud: For /root ?
[03:17] <danbhfive> SilentDis: I think /tmp is on your ram, fyi
[03:17] <livefoniks> SilentDis:  I use 8GB, myself...that seems to be plenty.
[03:17] <Alan_M> and its been..a while.
[03:17] <owh> nickrud: That seems a tad overkill.
[03:18] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, i run / with 6 gigs and /home gets everything else.
[03:18] <nickrud> SilentDis: you might, , for example if you were building a dvd
[03:18] <MK5> Can someone explain to me how to setup Windows VPN for NetworkManager
[03:18] <icesword> nickrud, if i remove update notifier from panel,is that means there won't be process running like update notifier and notification daemon in background
[03:18] <berlylabs> anyone here know to fix a sound problem on ubuntu... it's telling me I have no plug ins or devices
[03:18] <NinjaPlimsoles> right, bedtime for me
[03:18] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, it really depends on how big the hdd is and where you're planning on storing things.
[03:18] <SilentDis> this box is overkill.  200gb for /home, 10gb for a swap, and 90gb for /, i don't have these issues lmao
[03:18] <NinjaPlimsoles> night folks
[03:18] <LeChacal> jetscreamer: so then you are saying add the Debian to my source.list and make this pinning file
[03:18] <cottima> how do I setup raid on the live installer
[03:18] <nickrud> icesword: hm, I haven't really looked into how it's set up, if the gui thing does it or only monitors some other process
[03:19] <livefoniks> 10GB for a swap, SilentDis?  Definite overkill there.
[03:19] <cottima> softraid, that is
[03:19] <marbleslinger> 500 gig is enough no matter how you split it up
[03:19] <posr> icesword ohh hi :)
[03:19] <posr> :D
[03:19] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: my mom's 'puter.  gonna give it a shot in the arm.  when i built it, it ran Ubuntu 6.10 with a mere 8gb drive in total.  i only gave / 3gb, which is WAY too small.  was trying to think of ways to solve this
[03:19] <icesword> posr, hi
[03:19] <jetscreamer> LeChacal: i'm just saying it may be what you want... not sure.
[03:19] <danbhfive> SilentDis: heh, I don't think that the kernel can even use that much swap, unless its the server version, or 64bit
[03:19] <livefoniks> SilentDis:  How much RAM in the machine?
[03:19] <LeChacal> jetscreamer: ok i will try it thank you
[03:20] <SilentDis> livefoniks: trust me, i'm no where near maxed out either.  there's an extra 20gb for windows (haven't booted it in a year or more), 25gb fat32 partition in there...
[03:20] <owh> cottima: Format the partition, set the partition type to Raid Auto Detect, restart the partitioner.
[03:20] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, hrm... 8 gigs is a big small.  buy her a 40 gig hdd.  they're cheapo i'm sure.
[03:20] <nickrud> SilentDis: I keep several 12gb partitions around for different installs. I've maxed out at 7 when I had a _lot_ installed, several desktops, etc
[03:20] <owh> cottima: Uh. s/format/create/
[03:20] <berlylabs> anyone know how to get ubuntu to reinstall a driver that waas installed but somehow disappeared
[03:21] <SilentDis> livefoniks: currently 2gb, gonna order another 2gb when W. sends me mah gobmant cheeze check!  lol
[03:21] <chuy_max> Alan_M, it is a KDE program
[03:21] <che> How to work the visual effect of Ubuntu on the ATI video card?
[03:21] <icesword> i will kill all unneccessary services
[03:21] <berlylabs> my sound card I think got messed up
[03:21] <nickrud> che: what ati video card?
[03:22] <berlylabs> can anyone help?
[03:22] <marbleslinger> CHE: Envy
[03:22] <livefoniks> SilentDis:  Well, a 10GB /root partition is probably plenty.  1 or 1.5GB for SWAP.
[03:22] <bluefoxx> what plugin do i need to play .iso dvd inages in kaffeine?
[03:22] <SilentDis> so, in general, dedicating all of hda (8gb drive) to /, and then dropping in a spare 20g/40g/whatever i have sitting around for swap and home should suffice without issue?
[03:22] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, what do you mean, you have to be more descriptive.  what driver
[03:22] <berlylabs> arrrrghhh : my sound just stopped and it tells me i have no gstreamer plugins or devices or something like that
[03:22] <che> nickrud: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[03:23] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, oh yea.  i mean if you gave everything to / and had a small swap (512mb or so) might also work.,...
[03:23] <nickrud> SilentDis: for most uses, yes. If mom isn't going to install a lot of stuff
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> marbleslinger, Envy is not something we support in here.. it has improved, but still has issues
[03:23] <marbleslinger> ok... worked for me
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[03:23] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[03:23] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, or / gets 5 gigs and /home gets 2.5 gigs and swap gets 512mb.
[03:23] <berlylabs> exact error  The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[03:23] <SilentDis> nickrud: she likes to 'play' in the add/remove programs area i've found, which resulted in this problem in the first place lol
[03:24] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, that's close tho... i'd recommend 6gigs min. for /.  and if she likes doin that, get her a bigger hdd or don't tell her the root pass lol
[03:24] <cottima> owh, sorry, what format type do I select?
[03:24] <GaD1a> hi all
[03:24] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: i tried the whole 'no root access for you!' method.... she was calling me every day :P
[03:24] <jetscreamer> get a newer harddrive.. buy yourself a nice big new one, and give mom your handmedown
[03:24] <berlylabs> can someone help me fix this error I have no sound The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[03:25] <rledge21> Hi all - I'm trying to import a snippet in gedit, when I click the import button the filebrowser opens but everything in it is locked up.  I can move it and resize it but I cannot browse to the file.  Does anyone know a way to fix it - or a way to manually install snippets?
[03:25] <owh> cottima: It's the partition type that you select.
[03:25] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, it helps if you spell my name right.  autocomplete works here too :)  at any rate, do you use alsa for sound?
[03:25] <nickrud> che: system->admin->restricted manager, enable ati restricted. Reboot.  log in, run  fglrxinfo   in a terminal, make sure it's using ati 8.37.6 driver.   install xserver-xgl , log out and back in. System->prefs-appearance, effects tab, turn it on
[03:25] <SilentDis> jetscreamer: eh, i have spares sitting all over the place it seems.  they just keep collecting lol
[03:25] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, ouch... yea... hrm.  just give her a bigger hdd and burn that 8gig POS.
[03:25] <owh> cottima: Linux RAID AutoDetect, on the second page if memory serves me.
[03:25] <jetscreamer> debian has a new fglrx xorg module in sid btw
[03:25] <berlylabs> i'm not sure what I use as it just worked after i installed this is the first issue I've had
[03:25] <che> nickrud: ok, i will try
[03:25] <che> thanks
[03:25] <berlylabs> arrrghhh:i'm not sure what I use as it just worked after i installed this is the first issue I've had
[03:25] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: so, drop a 40g+ in there, and put / on a 10g partition?
[03:26] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, and you'll be golden my friend.
[03:26] <che> nickrud: how to install a xserver-xgl
[03:26] <jetscreamer> you can get by with 6, but it gets tight
[03:26] <nickrud> che: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl   in a terminal
[03:26] <jetscreamer> i had a 13 that was 'kinda' roomy
[03:27] <che> nickrud: ok
[03:27] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: i just worry... she bought a digital camera and fancies herself a serious professional picture taker... you know, of dogs... bugs... blurry looking sunsets...  roflmao
[03:27] <vikku> can someone help me install build-essential iam getting following error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58568/
[03:27] <seniorheuser> hello
[03:27] <Frederick> folks I got issues in a basically fresh install when I evoke x server the machine halts
[03:27] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, hrm... that's very strange, what changed in the system?  hardware or software.
[03:27] <Tann> Does anyone know where the alsa-base config files are
[03:27] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, well yea, but with a 30+ gig /home partition she should be fine.
[03:27] <berlylabs> arrrghh : i deleted a gcj plug in to get my yahoo games to work that's all
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, My notes on Ati say to sudo depmod -a   after installing -xgl   what is that for?
[03:28] <che> nickrud: i heard about xserver-xgl gives like the lag, is this true?
[03:28] <cottima> owh, could the fact that I am using a xubuntu cd make a difference?
[03:28] <rledge21> Hi all - I'm trying to import a snippet in gedit, when I click the import button the filebrowser opens but everything in it is locked up.  I can move it and resize it but I cannot browse to the file.  Does anyone know a way to fix it - or a way to manually install snippets?
[03:28] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, gcj plugin?
[03:28] <SilentDis> another question, just so i know where to start digging... she's gonna be doing EVDO on the machine.  does Ubuntu 7.10 have a dialer on it, or will i be mucking with pppd for a bit to get the packages installed?  (yes, her phone works with 7.10, i tried it on my kubuntu box)
[03:28] <berlylabs> yeah for mozilla
[03:28] <nickrud> vikku: if you're lucky sudo apt-get -f install will fix that
[03:28] <owh> cottima: No, it shouldn't. What is the problem you're experiencing?
[03:28] <nith> Tann: Dunno if they're the base configs, I've got some it /usr/share/alsa
[03:28] <berlylabs> arrrghhh: yeah for mozilla
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> che, You need it if you want smooth video and effects, you just need to turn off effects for better gaming
[03:29] <vikku> nickrud : trying it
[03:29] <nith> *some in
[03:29] <icesword> basically,i don't worry about mem,linux kernel does a very good mm
[03:29] <Tann> ok. thx
[03:29] <nickrud> jack-desktop: no idea, depmod -a is to rebuild the kernel module index (roughly) xserver-xgl has no kernel modules
[03:29] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, and you've tried rebooting i'm assuming?
[03:29] <Nith> np
[03:29] <berlylabs> yes many times
[03:29] <arrrghhh> lol
[03:29] <arrrghhh> ok
[03:29] <nickrud> che: it can, yes. But, you can't run the desktop effects without it on ati 200m
[03:29] <Tann> nith: I was just wondering so i can copy the config files from a live cd to my  comp
[03:30] <vikku> <nickrud : same error
[03:30] <che> jack_sparrow, nickrud: aanhaa ok thanks
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, I pulled it from one of the tutorials....    thought I would ask.. goodnight
[03:30] <biouser> quick, I need to open a 'listen.asp' radio over the internet, what should I get?
[03:30] <SilentDis> a better way to form that question...  Does Ubuntu 7.10 have any GUI dialers available on it's CD?  or, at minimum, does it have the pppd stuff for me to get it working from a term, then pull a gui one?
[03:30] <combatwombat> hey guys
[03:30] <Nith> Tann: why not just purge and reinstall?
[03:30] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: if someone compiles the fglrx from ati, it'd be useful
[03:30] <Frederick> my x server hangs and the whole sstem seems to hang I cant evn kill it
[03:30] <arrrghhh> berlylabs, i'm not sure... i use kde, and instructions for audio troubleshooting are vastly different.
[03:30] <berlylabs> hmm
[03:31] <berlylabs> anyone here wanna help? sound just stopped working
[03:31] <Frederick> Ive tried the new cd it also hangs I cant even have an instalr in text mode I think
[03:31] <Frederick> any ideas?
[03:31] <nickrud> vikku: I'm not sure what's causing that error.it's in /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpid.postinst , but what's actually happening ..
[03:32] <arrrghhh> Frederick, have you tried the text mode installer?
[03:32] <Frederick> how do I do it?
[03:32] <Tann> Nith: oh. ok
[03:32] <nickrud> SilentDis: pppconf , with pon/poff in terminal
[03:32] <biouser> .asp, radio on the internet, what program can handle it?
[03:33] <nickrud> SilentDis: erm, pppconfig that is
[03:33] <Nith> good question
[03:33] <arrrghhh> Frederick, ...uh download the alternate installer cd?  when you choose to download, it asks if you want the desktop version or the "alternate" installer - you want to download the alternate iso.
[03:33] <biouser> http://wrfg.org/listen.asp
[03:33] <SilentDis> nickrud: so i'll be doing a bit of mucking at first.  this HAS to be GUI for her to do it herself later.  can you recommend a GTK+ dialer app?  (i use EVDO myself, but i'm using kubuntu & kppp works well)
[03:33] <cottima> owh, To start out, I have three options: guided entire disk, guided largest free space, and manual.  Guided continues onto user info: "Who are you?"  In manual, I only file system formats, no raid option.
[03:33] <arrrghhh> i don't understand why they don't have the alternate text install on the same ISO as the livecd.  seems like it'd be pretty easy, all the same info just how it's installed.
[03:33] <Scunizi> biouser, streamturner? VLC? maybe both will do it.. but if it's an .asp file that might be pretty much MS .
[03:34] <biouser> can someone tell me if they can get that feed?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, why not just install kubuntu on her machine?
[03:34] <biouser> what is asp?
[03:34] <biouser> no amarok?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> biouser, google it.  it's a file stream usually.
[03:34] <nickrud> SilentDis:  network manager applet has a ppp dialer, but I've never used it. My favorite for gnome disappeared
[03:35] <che> nickrud: i installed xserver-xgl it working smooth, now can i enable compiz?
[03:35] <owh> cottima: In the manual section, choose the disk you want to partition, then inside that you can setup partitions, inside that you can chose the partition type. If you have multiple identical drives you can be funky and do it automatically with one drive, go back, then chose the other drive, do the same - so the partitions are identical, then go back a third time, choose manual, then set the types, then finally go back and choose manu
[03:35] <nickrud> SilentDis: gnome-ppp sounds usable
[03:35] <vox> i'm trying to install gutsy server as a xen virtual machine, but it wont boot, just says "loading..." and stays there. any ideas?
[03:35] <owh> cottima: Did you understand that?
[03:35] <nickrud> che: system->prefs->appearance, effects tab
[03:36] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: i thought about that... but she's been using gnome for a while now, not sure if she can take such a change ;)
[03:36] <ms_kai> test me
[03:36] <rledge21> can anyone tell me where gedit snippets get saved to? Having trouble importing with the GUI
[03:36] <che> nickrud: is extra=compiz ?
[03:36] <nickrud> che: yes
[03:36] <cottima> yeah, but I still do not see how I can do raid without an option for it.
[03:36] <fotoflo> hey all
[03:37] <owh> cottima: You can set the partition type from within manual.
[03:37] <che> nickrud: thank you so much, i solved my last problem.
[03:37] <fotoflo> got a little question - is there a way to download all MX records that point to my domain?
[03:37] <arrrghhh> SilentDis, hrm... i dunno, i think kde is friendlier, but gnome does tend to hide things so newbies can't get in too much trouble.  kde just seems to be more mature.  and i'm not starting a flame war here people, so don't get pissed at my PERSONAL opinion.
[03:37] <nickrud> che: one more thing:  install compizconfig-settings-manager , it'll be at system->prefs->advanced desktop
[03:37] <slaytanic> fotoflo: Erhm, host -t MX yourdomain.com?
[03:38] <bosanac> how i can open my SSH ( to people have access to my BOX when i told them the pass and the user ? )
[03:38] <bosanac> how i can open my SSH ( to people have access to my BOX when i told them the pass and the user ? )
[03:38] <Frederick> arrrghhh:  i will try it thanks
[03:38] <SilentDis> arrrghhh: i am in agreement myself, it is really just personal taste.  i switched to kde about 1 month after going linux full time, too :)
[03:38] <berlylabs> anyone here help me trouble shoot audio suddenly not working
[03:38] <fotoflo> bosanac: that sounds like a bad idea, unless they have their own login and password
[03:38] <SilentDis> bosanac: are you behind a router?
[03:39] <MasterShrek> !ssh | bosanac
[03:39] <ubotu> bosanac: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:39] <bosanac> hmm thats not a bad idea dude
[03:39] <SilentDis> bosanac: what fotoflo said, as well.  are you giving them YOUR username/password, or their OWN username/password?
[03:39] <bosanac> i like that
[03:39] <Flannel> bosanac: SSH is open to people if they have a login/pass to your box
[03:39] <nickrud> berlylabs: wish I could, but sound for me is a baffler
[03:39] <bosanac> ok
[03:39] <bosanac> thx
[03:39] <MasterShrek> IF you have an ssh server installed
[03:40] <fotoflo> bosanac: and you should make sure you restrict their access, or else they will take over your machine
[03:40] <berlylabs> anyone here know how to get ubuntu to reinstall a piece of hardware maybe
[03:40] <MasterShrek> berlylabs, what sort of hardware is it?
[03:40] <fotoflo> nickrud: hey do you know how to do a reverse MX lookup?
[03:40] <berlylabs> MasterShrek: audio card
[03:40] <nickrud> fotoflo: nope
[03:41] <SilentDis> random question of the day:  are there any active viruses out in the wild right now for linux in general?
[03:41] <cabrioleur_> berlylabs, reinstall what? Hardware should be plugged manually :-)
[03:41] <MasterShrek> berlylabs, audio cards are such a pain lol, if you type: lsmod | grep snd     in a terminal does anything come up? (no need to paste it)
[03:41] <mneptok> SilentDis: yes, Microsoft released Vista last year.
[03:41] <Nith> SilentDis: I've only heard of root kits
[03:41] <cabrioleur_> SilentDis, yes
[03:41] <SilentDis> mneptok: lol
[03:41] <MasterShrek> !virus | SilentDis
[03:41] <ubotu> SilentDis: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:41] <nickrud> I personally consider wine a virus
[03:42] <owh> :)
[03:42] <_bosanac> Hello people I'm running linux Ubuntu 7.10 and how to open the SSH ( to activate my SSH ) ? somebody can tell me?
[03:42] <putterson> how do I change the terminal font (not X terminal)
[03:42] <_bosanac> sorry i left this network :(
[03:42] <berlylabs> MasterShrek: a bunch of stuff
[03:42] <Flannel> _bosanac: install openssh-server
[03:42] <chrismurf> I'm attempting to install Gutsy from CD on an embedded PC, and my (normal, IDE) CD drive keeps spinning down half way through the install process, and then won't read any more data.  The drive is fine; anybody know of a magic kernel parameter to pass?
[03:42] <_bosanac> Flannel: i install it and how to enable it ?
[03:42] <_bosanac> a
[03:42] <SilentDis> MasterShrek: thanks.  i'm more worried about mom, without a hardware firewall, using EVDO, and finally manage to screw something up.  i've kept her pretty safe otherwise :)
[03:42] <Flannel> _bosanac: It's "enabled" by default.  People just need to connect to your computer, and they can login
[03:43] <_bosanac> aha
[03:43] <_bosanac> ok
[03:43] <MasterShrek> berlylabs, on second thought can you paste the output to pastebin for me?
[03:43] <_bosanac> thx
[03:43] <_bosanac> ciao!
[03:43] <berlylabs> yeah give me a min
[03:43] <_ba> any ideas when trying to install 7.10 click install goes to busybox?
[03:43] <MasterShrek> _ba, have yo checked the disc for defects? should be an option right after your POST
[03:43] <cabrioleur_> MasterShrek, it's not necessary truth. Linux and attached to it software have enough exploits to be used by software without root priv.
[03:43] <Logan> Starnestommy: the alternate cd worked. but i'm stuck at the stage where it's looking for the cd-rom, which is funny because the cd is running the ubuntu???
[03:44] <putterson> how do I change the terminal font or the columns and rows (not X terminal)?
[03:44] <berlylabs> MasterShrek: http://pastebin.com/m660aecf3
[03:44] <cellofellow> putterson: set some kernel vga parameters in GRUB.
[03:44] <bluefoxx> ok, how can i mount a .iso image so a program[like kaffeine, gxine, vlc etc.] can make use of it?
[03:44] <cellofellow> putterson: try vga=792
[03:45] <MasterShrek> bluefoxx, sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point
[03:45] <putterson> cellofellow, is there a guide or manual to the parameters?
[03:45] <cellofellow> putterson: that's a 1024x768x32 framebuffer display
[03:45] <mneptok> berlylabs: you're not really using a root shell, are you? :)
[03:45] <cellofellow> um...
[03:45] <cabrioleur_> bluefoxx, you can mount it with "sudo mount -o loop /iso.iso /mnt" or just open file in vlc.
[03:45] <_ba> when checking for defects going to busybox
[03:45] <posr> Talking - show #state
[03:45] <MasterShrek> !intelhda | berlylabs have a look at this
[03:45] <ubotu> berlylabs have a look at this: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:45] <bluefoxx> MasterShrek: cabrioleur_ : thanks
[03:45] <posr> :D
[03:45] <SilentDis> final dumb question...  Ubuntu is shooting for an 8.04 release, right?  i might just put this all off till then, save me having to go over again and all :)
[03:45] <berlylabs> MasterShrek: what?
[03:45] <MasterShrek> berlylabs, look at the link ubotu pasted for you
[03:46] <Alan_M> SilentDis: thats correct
[03:46] <Flannel> !hardy | SilentDis
[03:46] <ubotu> SilentDis: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:46] <nickrud> SilentDis: when 8.04 is released, you can upgrade in place over the net, without having to reinstall
[03:46] <berlylabs> ok
[03:46] <owh> cottima: Is it working for you now?
[03:46] <Logan> Hey can anyone help me at the stage (Detect and mount CD-rom) . ubuntu 7.10 .. i don't get this i mean the cd is running fine how come it can't detect it???
[03:46] <SilentDis> nickrud: right, but would you trust your mom to actually be patient enough as the download happens?  mine burns water in saucepans, and yells at the microwave to hurry up!
[03:46] <cellofellow> putterson: in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the line that reads "defopts" and add "vga=792" to that line. Then run "sudo update-grub" and reboot. And hope your video card supports framebuffers.
[03:47] <nickrud> SilentDis: tell her to do it before going to bed :)
[03:47] <cellofellow> putterson:(mine, sadly, doesn't)
[03:47] <putterson> cellofellow, ok brb
[03:47] <Alan_M> Hardy is pretty darn stable atm, but even for the guys who love a challenge, i wouldnt suggest it just yet :)
[03:47] <SilentDis> nickrud: that is FARRR too many instructions.  she'd be likely to start it, then shut down the computer and go to bed lol
[03:47] <Scunizi> Logan, you have to burn the cd as an image AND at the slowest speed possible.  If you can read the iso file on the cd with windows explorer then you burned it as data instead of an image.
[03:48] <Tonren> Someone, anyone, please help me make Firefox stop crashing with Flash.  I have Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> on Kubuntu 7.10, on a sound card that doesn't support hw mixing.  Why does sound-enabled Flash keep crashing Firefox?
[03:48] <putterson> cellofellow, I can't find the line with defopts in it
[03:48] <Alan_M> If its just 1 file on the cd...then you burned it wrong Logan :)
[03:48] <SilentDis> i have learned through this exactly why sysadmins become BOFH though lol
[03:48] <jetscreamer> vikku: probably apt-get -f install might help
[03:48] <nickrud> SilentDis: sounds like it's a chance for you to have a few hours of quality time with mom ;)
[03:48] <Flannel> putterson: Its close to the top, it's commented out.
[03:48] <Logan> Scunizi: i've done this correctly, it shows up on window as a browser..
[03:48] <cellofellow> putterson: oops, it's "# defoptions=blah blah blah"
[03:48] <Flannel> putterson: DONT uncomment it.  And actually, vga=ask might be better than a definite value.
[03:49] <Logan> I've burned it right, it boots up and i'm in the process of installing it, but when it gets to the Detect and mount Cd-rom stage it just won't work from here
[03:49] <putterson> cellofellow, its at 791 right now
[03:49] <cellofellow> putterson: don't remove that hash symbol, that's line is for update-grub to read, while the un-commented lines are for GRUB itself to read.
[03:49] <SilentDis> nickrud: why don't i just hand you a gun so you can blow my brains out right now?  family functions, sure, then i can loose myself in meal prep lol
[03:49] <biouser> http://wrfg.org/listen.asp
[03:49] <Scunizi> Logan, what do you mean as a browser?  look at the cd with your file manager and see if you only see one file.
[03:49] <biouser> did anyone have any luck with that?
[03:49] <cellofellow> putterson: that line has a double hash does it not?
[03:49] <cellofellow> putterson: I see that line, it's an example.
[03:49] <putterson> cellofellow, oh yes sorry
[03:50] <SilentDis> nickrud: seriously, i love her dearly, but sometimes....  she's just... mom.  lol
[03:50] <biouser> I can't believe that my favorite community radio would be so idiotic as to make a proprietary format webcast
[03:50] <Alan_M> SilentDis: Parents are set in their ways huh? :)
[03:50]  * nickrud hands gun SilentDis and says, 'anything for ma ;)'
[03:50] <aSt3raL> when i use fdisk to make two primary partitions how do i access them after i write the changes
[03:50] <putterson> cellofellow, and if this fails will it just fall back to the lowest?
[03:50] <berlylabs> be back if this doesn't work ty guys
[03:50] <putterson> cellofellow, or will I be screwed
[03:50] <cellofellow> putterson: yes, with a funny delay
[03:50] <aSt3raL> when i do fdisk -l it just shows the old one
[03:50] <SilentDis> Alan_M: i got her to switch to ubuntu.  i am making progress. :)
[03:51] <Alan_M> Well, thats good!
[03:51] <putterson> cellofellow, haha funny or weird funny, lol
[03:51] <Logan> When you put in the ubuntu cd it auto boots into a browser with firefox, thunderbird and... nevermind doesn't do it with this one
[03:51] <Logan> it shows up folders and files
[03:51] <cellofellow> putterson: a screen will ask you what modes you want to pick, and if it does that just hit spacebar and undo it.
[03:51] <Alan_M> You've done more than me, I still cant get mine to switch, the best ive done is got her to use Knoppix :/
[03:51] <cellofellow> putterson: weird but harmless funny.
[03:51] <putterson> cellofellow, here goes nothing
[03:51] <Logan> i burned the image directly with imgburn, i never opened it and copied or created a data disk
[03:52] <bladinho> JOnata ;]
[03:52] <JOnata> ;)
[03:53] <SilentDis> Alan_M: lol.  she was limping along on a P1 233 for YEARS.  i built her a nice little AMD box, and just installed linux on it right off, no option in the matter.  spent a good hour with her learning the ropes, and she actually took to it rather well.  i doubt we'll see any shell scripts coming from her any time soon, but she definatly can use the machine :)
[03:53]  * Alan_M claps
[03:53] <Alan_M> bravo
[03:53] <cabrioleur_> P1 did get to 233? I always thought they stopped at 200.
[03:53] <Alan_M> mine sees a different style gui and flips...i dont like kubuntu..but for her i guess ill do it :/
[03:53] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[03:54] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:54] <MasterShrek> whoot netsplit
[03:54] <Alan_M> YIKES!
[03:54] <Logan> So any ideas?
[03:54] <Alan_M> that..was a big one!
[03:54] <SilentDis> cabrioleur_: i can state with full authority that the mobile P1 line hit 300mhz.  I have a laptop with a P1 300mhz chip in it right here, on my desk, running Xubuntu 7.10 :)
[03:54] <ogre> that was nuts
[03:54] <Pendeta> Is ubuntu server edition already set up as a email server?
[03:54] <SilentDis> someone forgot to feed the hamster.
[03:54]  * Alan_M grabs surf board just incase we go through that again, ride the waves ;)
[03:55] <Flannel> Pendeta: There is an email preconfiguration, yes
[03:55] <Alan_M> Pendeta, you can set it up as one, yeah.
[03:55] <cabrioleur_> SilentDis, thanks, good to know.
[03:55] <SilentDis> cabrioleur_: i believe that the P1 desktop line maxed at 233 or 266 though.
[03:55] <biouser> .asp? no one?
[03:55] <Alan_M> SilentDis, i think it was 266
[03:55] <Alan_M> if..you overclocked
[03:56] <cabrioleur_> biouser, what about .asp?
[03:56] <ogre> anyone tell me how to fix this? google is no help.  sudo aircrack-ng -b 00:18:4D:58:AF:D4 dump-01.cap
[03:56] <ogre> [sudo] password for ogre:
[03:56] <ogre> Opening dump-01.capopen failed: No such file or directory
[03:56] <biouser> listening to a streaming radio station...
[03:56] <biouser> http://wrfg.org/listen.asp
[03:56] <cabrioleur_> biouser, mplayer + win32codecs should do it.
[03:56] <SilentDis> can we go on the netsplit ride again?  i spilled my soda last time, but i promise i'll hold on tight to this cotton candy!
[03:56] <Pendeta> Flannel and Alan_M, thanks!
[03:56] <niknik> Quick question.  Can I make my xp partition smaller, and my ubuntu partition larger, without disturbing files?
[03:56] <Alan_M> Pendeta: its what were here for, you! :D
[03:56] <biouser> mplayer plug-in is what you are recommending?
[03:56] <cellofellow> Alan_M: I have several old i586's with those funny Turbo buttons that overclocked the processor on the fly.
[03:56] <cabrioleur_> niknik, yes
[03:56] <putterson> cellofellow, I only get a blinking underline cursor now
[03:56] <mneptok> ogre: please don't ask about aircrack here
[03:56] <biouser> I thought ubuntu-restricted extras might work :(
[03:57] <cellofellow> putterson: video card type and driver?
[03:57] <SilentDis> niknik: yes, i know partition magic does it, there are a couple other 'live' partition resizing apps out there too... let me poke around.
[03:57] <niknik> Dude, you rock for telling me that.  How?
[03:57] <Logan> So guys can anyone help me out here, i'm stuck on the detect and mount cd-rom, it says no common cd-rom drive was detected, if thats the case how come i'm running the install of ubuntu 7.10?
[03:57] <cellofellow> putterson: I think X should turn on on its own, but not sure.
[03:57] <cabrioleur_> niknik, install ntfs-3g (you can do it during live cd), and gparted will support resizing of ntfs.
[03:57] <SilentDis> niknik: i will say though, that they NEVER seem to work well.  you tend to always mess something up and loose data.  backups are a MUST.
[03:57] <putterson> cellofellow, how would I get that info?
[03:57] <ogre> mneptok:  they sent me here. its for my own network. the only reason I keep messing w/ it is because I cant figure it out
[03:57] <Alan_M> Logan, your running it off a server? :D (yes that can be done fyi) :)
[03:57] <cellofellow> putterson: you don't know what kind of video card you have?
[03:57] <cabrioleur_> niknik, or maybe it was ntfsprogs
[03:58] <ogre> mneptok:  ill quit though
[03:58] <putterson> cellofellow, its integraded, old p3 server
[03:58] <Logan> a hp one yes? but would that matter?
[03:58] <SilentDis> niknik: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/partitioneditors.shtml
[03:58] <cottima> owh, excuse the wait.  I am going to download the ubuntu cd in case.
[03:58] <cellofellow> putterson: if you could get a display...
[03:58] <cottima> owh, thank you.
[03:58] <cabrioleur_> biouser, ubuntu restricted extras will not work, as they are for gstreamer. mplayer doesn't use it.
[03:58] <mneptok> ogre: aircrack is a cracking tool that is mostly designed for malicious purposes. all we have is your affirmation that you're using it locally. there are too many legitimate support questions relating to more conventional packages for #ubuntu to start supporting what amounts to cracking tools.
[03:59] <owh> cottima: Pleasure.
[03:59] <biouser> cabrioleur_, thanks for the tip, I'm about to try it.
[03:59] <Pendeta> Alan_M, yes, and greatly appreciated! This support channel is the main reason I'm trying to switch all our computers to Ubuntu.
[03:59] <putterson> cellofellow, I have a display, its not headless, I just don't want to run a gui
[03:59] <putterson> .
[03:59] <pyrak> what rss reader should i use?
[03:59] <cellofellow> putterson: ctrl+alt+del should restart, and when it does, when GRUB shows up hit ESC to see the menu, select Ubuntu in the menu and hit 'c' to edit, and remove the vga bit. Don't forget to do that on in the file afterword.
[03:59] <mneptok> pyrak: try the Sage extension to Firefox
[03:59] <Alan_M> Awesome, thats what a ubuntero as myself loves to hear! :D
[04:00] <Logan> Alan_M, so does this mean i have to download the server version... lol man i'm glad i've unlimted broadband
[04:00] <Odd-rationale> pyrak: lifera is not too bad.
[04:00] <cellofellow> putterson: maybe it's not c, maybe it's e, I forget.
[04:00] <putterson> cellofellow, can I just ssh in and change the file back and run update-grub?
[04:00] <mneptok> pyrak: then add a 0 to your gateway address
[04:00] <Alan_M> Logan, you would probably be wasting your time.
[04:00] <SilentDis> hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work on the graveyard shift with me.  thanks all, g'night :)
[04:00] <cellofellow> pyrak: I just use google reader.
[04:00] <mneptok> pyrak: and no, i'll *never* let you forget :P
[04:00] <cellofellow> putterson: yeah, that should work.
[04:00] <niknik> Thank you, thank you, thank you
[04:00] <biouser> chmod ??? to make the .bin executable?
[04:00] <pyrak> mneptok, :/
[04:00] <mneptok> biouser: chmod +x blah.bin
[04:01] <mneptok> pyrak: yup, i'm that big a jerk.
[04:01] <Logan> Alan_M, why would i. i don't understand i mean it's the same as a desktop, so i really don't see the difference?
[04:01] <pyrak> mneptok, big enough jerk to put up with my noobitude :P
[04:01] <Alan_M> Whats the same as a desktop?
[04:01] <pyrak> mneptok, that server is all set up now, btw.  it's neat, i used it to bypass my school's filter the other day
[04:01] <mneptok> pyrak: from my chair, you're mild.
[04:01] <pyrak> ssh -D ftw
[04:02] <Logan> I've a HP machine here the specs arn't that fantastic so, i mean it's called a server but i use it as a desktop, so why would i be waisting my time?
[04:02] <biouser> thnks mneptok
[04:02] <mneptok> Logan: why install the GUI environment stuff on a server?
[04:02] <Alan_M> Oh, i see :)
[04:02] <Alan_M> thats the question i was getting to mneptok :)
[04:03] <Alan_M> unless your using xubuntu desktop..on a server..because your a new administrator.
[04:03] <Logan> Because to me it's not a server. i've never used it as a server it's a desktop to me... It's just called a server on HP
[04:03] <cabrioleur_> Logan, maybe you should check slackware out. It comes with everything you need (server wise), and works better on older hardware.
[04:03] <stoker> alguien que hable español
[04:03] <mneptok> new administrators should be reading manpages rather than configuring Thunar behavior ;)
[04:03] <Starnestommy> !es
[04:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:03] <Alan_M> !es
[04:03] <Alan_M> oops
[04:03] <stoker> ok
[04:03] <Logan> The computer isn't that old, lol
[04:03] <stoker> gracias
[04:04] <mneptok> Logan: ah! so the HP model naming calls it a server, but you use the machine as a desktop?
[04:04] <Logan> Pentium 4 (3.0GHz), 2GB Ram, 80GB Sata Drive.
[04:04] <wng-> how much HD space would be needed to host a local repository with just the packages needed for a installation?
[04:04] <Alan_M> mneptok, yeah.
[04:04] <Logan> yes
[04:04] <hekatontarchos> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 to my G3 iMac, but I'm having some issues.  Can someone help?
[04:04] <Odd-rationale> Has anyone had trouble with the jamendo plugin for rhythmbox? Mine won't list any albums... :(
[04:04] <Alan_M> hekatontarchos, unless such issues are stated, probably not :)
[04:05] <talcite> hey guys, is there any way to require VNC to use key authentication?
[04:05] <cabrioleur_> Logan, my server is 486, 16mb ram, lack of graphic card, and it's in my shoe-box with no fans, so it's quiet and stealth :)
[04:05] <Alan_M> !pm | Kalamansi
[04:05] <ubotu> Kalamansi: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[04:05] <talcite> I don't feel good about using arbitrary passwords...
[04:06] <hekatontarchos> running the live install, live-powerpc, check, check-powerpc, or any of the drivers options causes my computer to restart, losing the installation process
[04:06] <Kalamansi> i heard from someone that ubuntu is now able to handle NTFS partitions reliably, is that true? this guy i know was going to use those little external cases to set up some NAS for his laptops at home, but they only handle fat32 and fat32 isn't good for partitions over 32 gig I've got an older desktop system that i could set up for him with ubuntu it's just some p1 cpu but that should be enough, the NAS cases can't have a lot of power in them eithr es
[04:06] <Logan> Cool, so what could be the problem with the not detecting the drive it's using at that moment, i don't understand it?
[04:07] <putterson> cellofellow, blah the highest I can get with vga=ask is 80x60
[04:07] <cabrioleur_> Kalamansi, yes, linux is quite reliable with ntfs-3g
[04:08] <Tonren> Someone, anyone, please help me make Firefox stop crashing with Flash.  I have Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> on Kubuntu 7.10, on a sound card that doesn't support hw mixing.  Why does sound-enabled Flash keep crashing Firefox?
[04:08] <Alan_M> And Kalamansi, thank you for your understanding, i wasnt trying to be rude throwing that at you, just explaining the ways of this room.
[04:08] <hekatontarchos> the farthest I've gotten is live-nosplash-powerpc video=ofonly.  that gets me to busybox, but when I type modprobe ide-core and then exit, it gives me a bunch of '........ could not be found' an drops me at a busybox prompt again
[04:08] <cabrioleur_> Tonren, try to install alsa-oss.
[04:08] <wng-> how much HD space would be needed to host a local repository with just the packages needed for a installation?
[04:08] <Starnestommy> wng-: I would estimate 1 to 2.5 GB
[04:09] <wng-> Starnestommy, and how about the complete official repos?
[04:09] <Alan_M> wng-: a few hundred GB's
[04:09] <cabrioleur_> wng-, the size of the install cd.
[04:09] <wng-> Alan_M, how many hundreds?
[04:09] <Alan_M> that, im not sure of.
[04:09] <wng-> I have to decide what size/how many drives the machine is going to have
[04:10] <hekatontarchos> I've also tried booting with live-nosplash-powerpc video=ofonly break=top    but that gets me to busybox, and doesn't let me type
[04:10] <wng-> to tell my boss tomorrow
[04:10] <Alan_M> if your thinking about mirroroing the repositories, you might have to have a few TB hard drive..and a dang good bandwith..like almost fiber optical
[04:10] <Logan> So will i download the Server version guys?
[04:10] <phynix> wng: it is really easy to set up your own repo on a local machine
[04:10] <pyrak> mneptok, sage is pretty neat.  only thing it's missing is offline browsing
[04:10] <cabrioleur_> wng-, I think the whole repos you can fit on 3, 4 dvd's.
[04:10] <Alan_M> i might be wrong, but yeah.
[04:10] <wng-> 3 or 4 dvds is quite a difference than a few hundred gbs
[04:11] <cabrioleur_> wng-, yup. It's not that much of it in the official channels.
[04:11] <Alan_M> i saw on the ubuntu page it was a huge ammount.
[04:11] <wng-> i know debian is like 40GB fully installed
[04:11] <Tonren> cabrioleur_: It's already installed.
[04:11] <Alan_M> i just didnt know exactly, but its definately there for you to read
[04:11] <phynix> is there a way to get the packages off of the cd and just make a repo
[04:11] <wng-> cabrioleur_, you'd say 100GB would be more than enough?
[04:11] <wng-> phynix, yea, I'm pretty sure there is
[04:12] <cabrioleur_> Tonren, download plugin from the website and replace the one you have.
[04:12] <Logan> Hey where would i get drivers for the cd-rom?
[04:12] <cabrioleur_> wng-, that's plenty.
[04:12] <wng-> should be as easy as moving files and setting up apt
[04:12] <hekatontarchos> any ideas?  Alan_M?
[04:12] <wng-> cabrioleur_, thanks :)
[04:12] <Alan_M> None hekatontarchos
[04:12] <phynix> cause i made a scrip to compile the debs from a folder and host them using apache
[04:12] <Alan_M> thats also a reason i threw the private message thing at you, not everyone knows all the answers :)
[04:12] <phynix> not compile sorry make a package.gz files
[04:13] <hekatontarchos> I read some suggestions to use the alternate install CD, but the description of it didn't leave me confident that I would be any better off with it
[04:13] <Alan_M> Guys, im just a wee person, i dont have all the answers, i have as much information as ubotu :)
[04:13] <cabrioleur_> Logan, in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/cdrom
[04:14] <zetheroo> I have a laptop with a Broadcom wireless card.... and I want to get it working in Gutsy .... is there a way to do it without needing to plug into an Ethernet cable?
[04:14] <Logan> cabrioleur, thanks will try that
[04:15] <Odd-rationale> zetheroo: You will need to download the drivers somehow...  The I gave you location for directory which contain multiple modules for cdrom. I don't know which one is right for you.
[04:16] <zetheroo> sudo time stack too far in the future
[04:16] <Logan> o right cool will try
[04:16] <Link_> squid
[04:16] <MTecknology> Is there such thing as some way to load openoffice into the background or something so after I load a document for the first time I don't need to keep some document open in order to not have it reload everything?
[04:17] <kiro> a
[04:17] <kiro> Anyone could help me delete a file in Filesystem
[04:17] <kiro> named Backup.tgz
[04:17] <pyrak> MTecknology, that's a good question
[04:17] <cabrioleur_> kiro, rm -vf Backup.tgz
[04:17] <badcarbine> why does gparted ask for a password?
[04:18] <Starnestommy> badcarbine: I think it needs sudo or root access
[04:18] <badcarbine> i haven't set a root password - this is a livecd
[04:18] <cabrioleur_> badcarbine, it's your root password. Because you can alter internal and essential setup for you system.
[04:18] <cabrioleur_> badcarbine, the password is ubuntu
[04:18] <badcarbine> im in knoppix
[04:19] <kiro> cabrioleur_, do I need to be root?
[04:19] <jrib> badcarbine: ask in the knoppix channel
[04:19] <kiro> Im new to ubuntu..
[04:19] <cabrioleur_> kiro, only if it's not own by you.
[04:19] <badcarbine> i have already
[04:19] <kiro> well I type  su - root  , then type pass
[04:19] <jrib> badcarbine: we can help you use the ubuntu live cd, it has gparted on it
[04:19] <kiro> yes its owned by me
[04:19] <kiro> but it wont delete
[04:19] <Newbuntu2> I'm looking for a wifi adapter, preferably USB interface, with >200mW transmit power and sensitivity in the ~75dBm or better... does anyone know of one, or know a good site with reviews?
[04:20] <jrib> !root > kiro (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:20] <MTecknology> pyrak, if you ever find out something, you wanna memo me?
[04:20] <prince_jammys> kiro: just do :: sudo rm Backup.tgz
[04:22] <k1ro> sudo rm backup.tgz still not working
[04:22] <k1ro> O.o
[04:22] <jrib> k1ro: tell us the output you got
[04:22] <k1ro> ?
[04:22] <prince_jammys> k1ro: yeah
[04:22] <k1ro> how
[04:22] <prince_jammys> k1ro: any error message?
[04:22] <k1ro> umm no
[04:23] <jrib> k1ro: then it worked
[04:23] <prince_jammys> k1ro: are you in directory where this file is?
[04:23] <n2diy> I just renamed my Flash drives to something sane, I'm a happy camper now. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[04:23] <prince_jammys> k1ro: check if it's there
[04:23] <k1ro> it doesnt says anything
[04:23] <k1ro> ..
[04:23] <k1ro> weird huh
[04:23] <linux_stu> hello i am trying to install ubtuntu on my 64 bit amd tx1219 tablet, and it hangs during the booting of the livecd
[04:23] <prince_jammys> k1ro: if the deletion was successful, it won't say anything. check if the file is gone
[04:23] <k1ro> its in my filesystem folder ( / )
[04:23] <linux_stu> does that require any special drivers or anything?
[04:24] <cabrioleur_> linux_stu add "noapic nolapic" option in loader.
[04:24] <k1ro> and still there..
[04:24] <linux_stu> k thanks cabrioleur_
[04:24] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, how did you create this file?
[04:24] <prince_jammys> k1ro: sudo rm /Backup.tgz
[04:24] <k1ro> backup
[04:24] <k1ro> thing on net
[04:24] <k1ro> brb
[04:24] <k1ro> gotta check
[04:24] <jrib> !enter | k1ro
[04:24] <ubotu> k1ro: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:24] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, is the process still running?
[04:25] <summatusmentis> which is the correect install disc to be using for a macbook? what's the status of the amd64 port?
[04:25] <k1ro> No
[04:25] <prince_jammys> k1ro: either provide the full path of the file ( /Backup.tgz )  or cd /  and then sudo rm Backup.tgz
[04:25] <cabrioleur_> summatusmentis, the status is "stable" macbook with Gx or Intell?
[04:25] <k1ro> rm: cannot remove `/Backup.tgz': No such file or directory
[04:25] <Nith> SilentDis: I've only heard of root kits
[04:25] <prince_jammys> k1ro: ok what is the full path of the file?
[04:25] <Nith> sorry
[04:26] <Pendeta> What e-mail server does Ubuntu Server Edition come preconfigured with?
[04:26] <k1ro> prince_jammys: how do I check?
[04:26] <prince_jammys> k1ro: i mean what directory is it in ?
[04:26] <hekatontarchos> is there a way to get 7.04 for ppc?
[04:26] <k1ro> the filesystem
[04:26] <cabrioleur_> hekatontarchos, there should be a port of 7.04 for ppc.
[04:26] <jrib> !ppc > hekatontarchos (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:26] <icesword> lalalla
[04:27] <prince_jammys> k1ro: it's not in /
[04:27] <pawan> every time i load ubuntu i have to press control D
[04:27] <k1ro> prince_jammys, yea  it is
[04:27] <emma> What do you all think of this laptop (Do you think that Ubuntu would run well on it? --- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669951&type=product&id=1196470792281  (F.U. IRSeek: You do not have permission to publish anything I say).
[04:27] <prince_jammys> k1ro: where are you seeing that?
[04:27] <summatusmentis> cabrioleur_: macbook w/ intel(I assume you mean video card)
[04:27] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, sudo rm -vf /Backup.tgz
[04:27] <icesword> toshiba
[04:28] <cabrioleur_> summatusmentis, no, the cpu.
[04:28] <dark_angel> hey
[04:28] <|an4bi0s|> hi
[04:28] <summatusmentis> cabrioleur_: oh, ppc vs. intel, got it. Yeah, definitely intel
[04:28] <dark_angel> mm hola
[04:28] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ still there
[04:28] <Li-Plus> is there somewhere I can see whether parts of a computer are compatible with ubuntu
[04:28] <cabrioleur_> summatusmentis, then install amd64 or i386, both of them should be working fine.
[04:28] <prince_jammys> k1ro: type this::   ls /Backup.tgz
[04:29] <dark_angel> ola
[04:29] <summatusmentis> cabrioleur_: alright, someone was telling me the amd64 port wasn't the correct image for it
[04:29] <n2diy> ! hardware | Li-Plus
[04:29] <ubotu> Li-Plus: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[04:29] <dark_angel> somebody here write spanish
[04:29] <jrib> !es | dark_angel
[04:29] <ubotu> dark_angel: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:29] <dark_angel> jrib hola
[04:29] <k1ro> prince_jammys : ls: /Backup.tgz: No such file or directory
[04:29] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, then kill the script that is creating it. You are running tar script which is constantly creating it after you remove it. If you don't know how to do it, the easiest way would be to restart the computer.
[04:30] <prince_jammys> k1ro: ok what is making you say that it's in / ? where are you viewing this file?
[04:30] <dark_angel> Hola  Como estas  Li-Plus
[04:30]  * dark_angel tira Confetis y globos al aire por la llegada de  Li-Plus `;~'O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;  Li-Plus .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`; Li-Plus .'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*` Li-Plus ;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; Li-Plus .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~*`; Li-Plus .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; Li-Plus .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.
[04:30] <crushy> hello everyone
[04:30]  * dark_angel tira Confetis y globos al aire por la llegada de  crushy `;~'O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;  crushy .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`; crushy .'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*` crushy ;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; crushy .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~*`; crushy .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; crushy .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.
[04:31] <crushy> while am on call using ekiga, other person can hear himself
[04:31] <crushy> any help?
[04:31] <icesword> what the hell
[04:31] <Blueblaze> icesword, ?
[04:31] <k1ro> prince_jammys, in the filesystem folder ( / )
[04:31] <icesword> what is that
[04:31] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ how do I kill it?
[04:31] <prince_jammys> k1ro: paste the output of :::  locate /Backup.tgz
[04:32] <dark_angel> mm who kickme
[04:32] <crushy> thank dark angel
[04:32] <prince_jammys> k1ro: paste the output of :::  locate Backup.tgz
[04:32] <dark_angel> ?
[04:32] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, just restart the computer.
[04:32] <prince_jammys> k1ro: no slash
[04:32] <dark_angel> ur wellcome
[04:32] <jrib> prince_jammys, k1ro: sure this is not a case-sensitivity issue?
[04:32] <dark_angel> Hey jrib  Como estas, hagarra tu silla y sientate a charlar con nosotros aqui en el mejor canal  #ubuntu ...:)
[04:32] <crushy> i have setup mic capture in mixer only
[04:32] <prince_jammys> jrib: we're about to find out
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> dark_angel, Doesnt matter, that was not appropiate for this channel
[04:32]  * dark_angel tira Confetis y globos al aire por la llegada de  jrib `;~'O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;  jrib .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`; jrib .'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*` jrib ;.'`~;`~`O~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; jrib .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~*`; jrib .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.'O~~~~*`; jrib .'`~;`~`O~~~~*`;.
[04:32] <crushy> still other ppl can hear themself like am using mix
[04:32] <crushy> ?
[04:33] <k1ro> this is the site helped me to make that crazy folder  . http://www.digi-darkroom.com/showthread.php?t=27178
[04:33] <prince_jammys> k1ro: paste the output of ::  locate backup.tgz
[04:33] <k1ro> prince_jammys didnt says anything
[04:33] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, killall -9 tar
[04:34] <prince_jammys> k1ro: paste the output of ::: sudo find / -iname backup.tgz
[04:34] <k1ro> prince_jammys , ls: /Backup.tgz: No such file or directory
[04:34] <jrib> prince_jammys: it's "backup.tgz" on his link
[04:34] <flake> to run a program from the desktop, should i create a symbolic link to it, or set up a script I can run by clicking on it.. i tried the script and made it executable, but it opens as a text file
[04:34] <cabrioleur_> then remove the file with "sudo -vf /backup.tgz"
[04:34] <prince_jammys> jrib: heh
[04:35] <prince_jammys> !filenames
[04:35] <ubotu> File names in Ubuntu are case sensitive, MyFile is not the same as myfile, and if you put spaces in there and use a console you need to "escape" the space, thus "gedit My\ File.txt"
[04:35] <flake> ok.. the script has to have .sh behind it apparently
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> flake, Or launcher bash filename
[04:35] <k1ro> prince_jammys : /backup.tgz    <- that is what it gave with sudo find / -iname backup.tgz
[04:35] <prince_jammys> k1ro: sudo rm /backup.tgz        (no caps)
[04:36] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ : sudo: please use single character options
[04:36] <impulse32> kalun:
[04:36] <j_humphrey> how do i find the process id of a program?
[04:36] <crushy> follow prince_jammy @ k1ro
[04:36] <prince_jammys> why does everyone love rm -f so much?
[04:36] <jrib> k1ro: use prince_jammys's command, cabrioleur_ made a small typo before
[04:37] <jrib> j_humphrey: ps
[04:37] <Starnestommy> j_humphrey: pidof program
[04:37] <cabrioleur_> I quit
[04:37] <crushy> system >> administration>> system monitor @ humphrey
[04:37] <k1ro> prince_jammys : Worked finnally , a big thanks :D
[04:37] <prince_jammys> k1ro: was because of capital B
[04:38] <k1ro> prince_jammys : capital make difference??
[04:38] <prince_jammys> jrib: you hit that one on the head
[04:38] <crushy> anybody would help me out now :-<
[04:38] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, I recommend slackbook :-)
[04:38] <prince_jammys> !filenames | k1ro
[04:38] <ubotu> k1ro: File names in Ubuntu are case sensitive, MyFile is not the same as myfile, and if you put spaces in there and use a console you need to "escape" the space, thus "gedit My\ File.txt"
[04:38] <zetheroo> is AWN now in the Ubuntu Gutsy repos?
[04:38] <kalun> type /msg impulse32 penis
[04:38] <k1ro> oooooo
[04:39] <crushy> why other person can hear themselves when they are on call with me????
[04:39] <crushy> :)
[04:39] <k1ro> cabioleur_ : slackbook? let me check this out on wiki
[04:39] <k1ro> prince_jammys thanks :D
[04:39] <prince_jammys> k1ro: np
[04:39] <impulse32> jrib: sorry i'm trying to teach him to use irc
[04:39] <crushy> am i ignored?
[04:39] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, ftp://ftp.slackbook.org/pub/slackbook/slackbook-2.0.pdf
[04:40] <crushy> :)
[04:40] <Starnestommy> crushy: is your microphone picking up your speakers?
[04:40] <angusb> !ot
[04:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:40] <crushy> no
[04:40] <crushy> i tried removing speakers completely
[04:40] <crushy> and just use mic
[04:40] <cabrioleur_> crushy, no, but are you positive it's not an echo on the line?
[04:40] <crushy> i cant hear them but still they can hear themselves
[04:40] <pawan> every time i load ubuntu i have to press control D
[04:40] <crushy> yes its not echo
[04:40] <pawan> file system error
[04:41] <jrib> impulse32: suggest "foobar" next time
[04:41] <crushy> it only goes off when i mute wave
[04:41] <cabrioleur_> crushy, kill esd then :-)
[04:41] <impulse32> jrib: done
[04:41] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ , woot thats awesome:D
[04:41] <crushy> but when i mute wave i cant hear them
[04:41] <crushy> esd?:(am noob guide me
[04:42] <crushy> i have two sound cards in pc, the one onboard i disabled and installed this on pci, its YMF407 yamaha
[04:42] <Lasivian> I need a driver updated to the modern kernel, does anyone know where I should go to have someone do that?
[04:42] <cabrioleur_> crushy, go to System Monitor, Processes, and find + kill esd process.
[04:42] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ , so Slackbook is all about Using Linux Correctly?
[04:42] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, it's the simplest free book about linux I know.
[04:43] <erstazi> after attemping a quite a few hours, I am giving up (searched forums, mail lists, and search engine results), here is all my outputs I can think of: http://c-wd.net/ath/   can anyone help with this?
[04:43] <crushy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511974
[04:43] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, 99% applies to all linuxes, and 1% just ignore :-)
[04:43] <crushy> killed @ cabrioleur
[04:43] <crushy> now shall i try again?
[04:44] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ , sweet thing seriously wow thanks man did not know peoples were so helpful :)
[04:44] <cabrioleur_> crushy, nothing left :-)
[04:44] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, no problemo
[04:44] <crushy> k1ro good people are always helpful
[04:45] <crushy> ok bro trying now and will report you back :)
[04:45] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ , if you got time to be my mentor could be awesome :)
[04:45] <k1ro> crushy :)
[04:45] <shindig> anyone know how to get a nvidia 8800 gt card working or at least which synaptic package i should use
[04:45] <k1ro> shindig envy
[04:45] <k1ro> ?
[04:46] <Starnestommy> !envy
[04:46] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[04:46] <crushy> shindig it should work in restricted driver
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shindig, I think yo uwill need the drivers from the  nvidia site to get the 8000's going
[04:46] <k1ro> Well Im using envy cuz i dont know anyother thing like this to get my graphx card working
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Starnestommy, Please do not recommend envy in here
[04:47] <k1ro> Jack_sparrow I did
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sORRY sTAR
[04:47] <cabrioleur_> k1ro, I'm a soldier, a programmer, and a journalist/photo guy at the same time. If you have any questions, I'm sure I will find some time.
[04:47] <erstazi> cabrioleur_: what MOS?
[04:47] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ WOW awesome
[04:47] <cabrioleur_> erstazi, 35t
[04:47] <shindig> k thanks i will look into those options
[04:47] <erstazi> cabrioleur_: former 11B here
[04:47] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ I would like to be a0 "white hat"
[04:48] <cabrioleur_> erstazi, respectful.
[04:48] <cabrioleur_> erstazi, after all 11b is the core of the army.
[04:48] <erstazi> cabrioleur_: and only 5% of it also
[04:49] <erstazi> cabrioleur_: Avenger System Repairer?
[04:49] <J-_> Is there a way to reconfigure network-manager?
[04:49] <erstazi> J-_: howdy
[04:49] <crushy> Shindig this would help you >> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html
[04:49] <cabrioleur_> erstazi, a hard labor. Former 33W, MI tech.
[04:49] <ruzarik> ぉ
[04:49] <k1ro> !mentor
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mentor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[04:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:49] <J-_> erstazi: how's it going?
[04:49] <_aib> when I insert a usb key, what listing in /dev is it by default? i've got /dev/usb1, /dev/usb2, and 10 variants of /dev/usbdev1.1/2. i tried mo unting /dev/usb1 and 2 but it says " /dev/usb1 is not a block device"
[04:50] <erstazi> good
[04:50] <J-_> !network-manager
[04:50] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[04:50] <J-_> grr
[04:50] <erstazi> J-_: want a link?
[04:50] <erstazi> J-_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=247028
[04:50] <erstazi> J-_: normally, I go through /etc/network/interfaces (back it up first before editing)
[04:51] <erstazi> J-_: then after fixing it, I /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:51] <k1ro> I've just installed steam with wine , and got inboard soundcard , cause my Xfi Fatal1ty aint working on 32  bit linux. and Im using envy nvidia  8800 as graphx card
[04:51] <cabrioleur_> _aib, it should be next consecutive number. It can create multiple files as well.
[04:52] <AaronMT> I am trying to help a friend simply boot into the Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD desktop and he recieves a problem, best described as: after the loading progress bar (booting using the cd) he boots into X, first thing that pops up before anything else: Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, 3 options: configure (video drivers), shut down, continue in low graphics mode . He configures his Nvidia 8800 and monitor, clicks OK, bl
[04:52] <_aib> cabrioleur_, i tried this:`for ii in `ls /dev/usb*`;do sudo mount $i /tmp;done' and it says "* is not a block device" for each one
[04:52] <erstazi> J-_: is that any assitance?
[04:53] <erstazi> _aib: you got ii, it should be i
[04:53] <cabrioleur_> _aib, remove the key and see which one disappeared.
[04:53] <AaronMT> Did my message just print?
[04:53] <_aib> i had it right in the command
[04:53] <erstazi> AaronMT: yes
[04:53] <erstazi> AaronMT: thats restricted video drivers, you have to enable it
[04:54] <elchado> Hello, thanks for previous help with sound. New Problem, tried dual booting XP, grub got overwritten. I have reinstalled grub, but get error 17. Any ideas? Thanks!
[04:54] <AaronMT> He isnt at the desktop just yet to do that though
[04:54] <k1ro> wow
[04:54] <_aib> cabrioleur, all of the ones that look like usbdev2.3_ep[0-9]{2} disappear
[04:54] <k1ro> cabrioleur_ I've installed Steam with Wine. It was working fine since now. steam won't load again
[04:55] <AaronMT> Anyone, any ideas?
[04:55] <Posr> http://www.seopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/02252006_google_girl.jpg
[04:55] <ZzzCellistzzZ> Night
[04:55] <crushy> cabriouleur still the person can hear his voice
[04:56] <kalun> hey i just setup my computer today to dual boot XP and Ubuntu, i have a shared FAT32 partition which is hda6, i want my shared partition to appear as a new drive but changing the fstab to mount /dev/hda at /media/hda6 doesnt seem to work. any ideas?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> crushy, Questiohn, can you hear yours when you talk?
[04:56] <Odd-rationale> AaronMT: He tried low graphics mode?
[04:57] <crushy> no i cant hear mine while talking @ jack
[04:57] <elchado> Grub Error 17?
[04:57] <crushy> in switches i have already tick over microphone capture
[04:57] <AaronMT> Odd-rationale: I am asking him
[04:57] <Odd-rationale> AaronMT: ok
[04:58] <Lasivian> Anyone know of a pcmcia wireless card that works well in ubuntu that will take an external antenna? or a list of compatible hardware? thanks :)
[04:58] <erstazi> after attemping a quite a few hours, I am giving up (searched forums, mail lists, and search engine results), here is all my outputs I can think of: http://c-wd.net/ath/   can anyone help with this?
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, are you missing a # pointer to the dev.. partition
[04:59] <crushy> LASIVIAN check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543919
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> crushy, HAve you considered the problem may be on his end and not yours
[04:59] <crushy> well when i mute wave he cannot hear the echo
[05:00] <kalun> Thanks Jack: # /dev/hda6 starts the line off
[05:00] <crushy> so the problem seems at my end
[05:00] <crushy> he can hear me even when i mute wave, but the echo that he's getting is off
[05:01] <crushy> This is right document https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported @ lasivian
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> crushy, Is there a channel for the app you are using?
[05:01] <crushy> hmm didnt get you there @ jack, am using ekiga
[05:01] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: # /dev/hda6
[05:01] <kalun> UUID=47CD-5E47  /media/hda6        vfat    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:02] <elchado> Hi, I am getting error 17 on startup screen-cannot mount partition....any help?
[05:02] <k1ro> I need help, I've installed Steam With Wine this morning. After this I had problem with a file that were taking all the room I needed to install the game. Now that I've deleted the file. I've installed the game in steam then at about 98% steam crashed. I've tried to open\run it again but It won't load completely. On the taskbar it says Starting steam. then steam won't come up.
[05:02] <Jack_Sparrow> crushy, when you mute wave.. you cant hear him and he cant hear himself right
[05:03] <crushy> yes
[05:03] <crushy> and can hear me as mic is still on
[05:03] <AaronMT> Odd-rationale: Low graphics mode does the same thing, it goes to a black screen blinking cursor and hangs
[05:03] <manic12> anybody know where I can get a GLX >= ver 1.3 for ubuntu?
[05:03] <BananaMon> Hi. I have a somewhat of an odd thing going on with my Ubuntu. The 'windows list' that used to show up in one of my panels does not anymore making it not possible for me to switch windows. And further the alt+tab buttons also don't do anything, even if there are many windows open. Is this just a metacity problem?
[05:03] <crushy> dont know about stuff regarding wine @ k1ro :(
[05:04] <erstazi> BananaMon: on the panel you had the windows list, right click and add to panel
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> AaronMT: Your best bet is to use the alternative install cd, then.
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> crushy, That does not prove the problem is on your end though
[05:04] <erstazi> BananaMon: then add window list
[05:04] <Kaneda15> woo people that i might be able to talk to :o
[05:04] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry here is fstab link http://www.pastebin.ca/929974
[05:04] <crushy> actually when u choose mix option in switches
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, ok will look
[05:04] <crushy> the person will hear whatever they say
[05:05] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah that is not the problem. I have done that many times, added new panels and stuff. If I right click where the windows list is supposed to be and click on preferences, I do indeed see the prefs of the windows list, but it is invisible and unusable
[05:05] <crushy> it seems like some of the voice being redirected to them
[05:05] <erstazi> BananaMon: compiz-fusion enabled?
[05:05] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah
[05:05] <erstazi> BananaMon: try disabling it for a second
[05:05] <crushy> when we choose microphone capture in switches ?does that mean only microphone channel will be send?
[05:05] <gadu_33> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <BananaMon> erstazi: I think the problem started after I installed some other draw libraries for conky
[05:05] <manic12> anbody know about opengl/glx for ubuntu?
[05:05] <BananaMon> erstazi: k, let me try
[05:06] <erstazi> BananaMon: I use conky too
[05:06] <erstazi> BananaMon: from experience, compiz-fusion and conky can conflict
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, that uuid looks wrong
[05:06] <erstazi> BananaMon: want my .conkyrc? just need to backup yours and just use mine
[05:06] <BananaMon> erstazi: sorry, not conky, I was installing some things like aggdraw to make a certain desklet work on adesklets, I think that's what led to the problem
[05:06] <AaronMT> Apparently safe-mode got in to the desktop for him
[05:07] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: how would i find the proper UUID?
[05:07] <BananaMon> erstazi: lol...I will get to that in a minute erstazi. I still have the problem of not getting my conky to startup with even with a delay script
[05:07] <codename> Hey can you still enable desktop effects in UBuntu 6.06
[05:07] <codename> ?
[05:07] <BananaMon> erstazi: I'm just going to brb, I have to logout of the gnome-safe mode to try what you said
[05:07] <erstazi> BananaMon: k
[05:07] <BananaMon> erstazi: BRB, thanks...
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda6
[05:07] <codename> Hey can you still enable desktop effects in UBuntu 6.06?
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, see if it matches what you show
[05:08] <k1ro> I need help, I've installed Steam With Wine this morning. After this I had problem with a file that were taking all the room I needed to install the game. Now that I've deleted the file. I've installed the game in steam then at about 98% steam crashed. I've tried to open\run it again but It won't load completely.  I had just set windows rules to skip taskbar for all desktop windows.....geez!!! well that was easy.
[05:10] <Scunizi> !hi | devron6
[05:10] <ubotu> devron6: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:10] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: when i first setup dual boot i mounted hda6 at /osshare but i was experimenting to try to make the folder show as an actual drive thats why i changed it to /media/hda6
[05:10] <erstazi> manic12: that happens (:
[05:10] <bluesky> chinese?
[05:10] <codename> I don't wanna upgrade
[05:10] <codename> :(
[05:10] <devron6> How is everyone doing
[05:10] <codename> i downgraded actuakky
[05:10] <manic12> what happens?
[05:10] <Scunizi> codename, from?
[05:10] <erstazi> manic12: sorry BananaMon ^^
[05:10] <codename> 7.20
[05:11] <codename> 7.10
[05:11] <codename> i like dapper better
[05:11] <erstazi> tab complete + sloppiness
[05:11] <BananaMon> erstazi: but now for the real problem, conky! My conky like I said, doesn't work on startup though it works perfectly normally. I have a 60 second delay setup, but still it doesn't work
[05:11] <BananaMon> erstazi: lol yeah
[05:11] <Scunizi> codename, some downgraded to Feisty.. the next version though is the new LTS
[05:11] <codename> yeah
[05:11] <codename> i really wanna use dapper
[05:11] <codename> tho
[05:11] <erstazi> BananaMon: honestly, I set mine up using Sessions, just added it to sessions
[05:11] <zdux00tv> I'd like to "zip" some files into an iso file. Is this possible?
[05:11] <k1ro> erstazi whats that?
[05:11] <codename> so is it impossible to get desktop effects running then?
[05:11] <Scunizi> codename, well.. it is supported for 3 years.
[05:12] <codename> So Desktop effects is still possible
[05:12] <badcarbine> if my users list in ubuntu lists only the root, how is it possible for me to be logged in as another user?
[05:12] <legend2440> kalun: /dev/hda6 is vfat?
[05:12] <k1ro> !crossover
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <credible> codename: completely impossible
[05:12] <BananaMon> erstazi: hmm yeah, that doesn't quite work for me...
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, Is there still old mount info somewhere messing it up
[05:12] <credible> codename: wait for hardy and upgrade to that
[05:12] <codename> Credible, are you serious?
[05:12] <cjae> hi all
[05:12] <codename> So I can't do the desktop effects
[05:12] <BananaMon> Does anyone else have any ideas of how to get conky to startup?
[05:12] <k1ro> erstazi : whats crossover
[05:12] <erstazi> BananaMon: want my .conkyrc?
[05:12] <Scunizi> codename, no.. you need compiz & beryl.. there may be a way with compiz fusion but I don't know how.. It was always buggy for me on Dapper.
[05:12] <credible> codename: not on dapper
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, Sorry, but I have been up since 3am .. not on top of my game
[05:12] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah sure...thanks for the help
[05:12] <codename> k
[05:12] <BananaMon> erstazi: no harm in trying eh
[05:12] <erstazi> k1ro: CodeWeaver's Crossover, google (:
[05:12] <kalun> legend2440: it is vfat, was formated as that in GParted and its also in the code
[05:12] <credible> you could use ancient versions of things, but it would be a mess
[05:13] <erstazi> BananaMon: let me scp it to my server
[05:13] <BananaMon> erstazi: k cool
[05:13] <cjae> where are gnome icons kept in file system so I can add glass icons from gnome-look?
[05:13] <BananaMon> erstazi:
[05:13] <BananaMon> cjae: different places.....for something you installed yourself ~/.icons
[05:13] <zdux00tv> how can I "zip" files into a iso format ?
[05:13] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not sure if theres old mount info anywhere i did a fresh install of both systems
[05:13] <Odd-rationale> cjae: /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:13] <BananaMon> cjae: for the others...it's
[05:14] <BananaMon> cjae: yeah that, what Odd-rationaly said
[05:14] <erstazi> BananaMon: http://c-wd.net/ath/conkyrc.txt
[05:14] <cjae> ok will try
[05:14] <erstazi> BananaMon: I have two cpu's on this box, so if you have single CPU, then you need to alter that
[05:14] <BananaMon> erstazi: cool thanks a lot! I'm going to go try this out..have to restart my system, so BRB
[05:15] <erstazi> after attemping a quite a few hours, I am giving up (searched forums, mail lists, and search engine results), here is all my outputs I can think of: http://c-wd.net/ath/   can anyone help with this?
[05:15] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: i removed uif to emulate hda1 because hda1 used to be visible as a drive (thats my windows partition) but now my hda1 isnt working either
[05:15] <Kaneda15> so... got a question for anyone that thinks they can help
[05:15] <BananaMon> erstazi: oh k. I just want to test if it startsup
[05:15] <erstazi> BananaMon: System > Preferences > Sessions
[05:16] <AaronMT> How do my friend get wireless on the LiveCD when it doesnt detect his wireless card and its not listed in restricted drivers
[05:16] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah, thanks, I'm going to try then...brb
[05:16] <erstazi> BananaMon: if you just use that .conkyrc as yours in your ~/ then you should be able to just put conky as the command
[05:16] <friedtofu> AaronMT: do you know what wireless you have?
[05:16] <cjae> hey how do i make gnome take hold of ne4w icons?
[05:17] <cjae> *new
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, I am to sleepy to help now...  http://www.pastebin.ca/929984    is something to try.. but   how about trying to mount it manually real quick
[05:17] <cjae> unzipped to the /usr/share/icons directory but am not sure how to make them take hold
[05:17] <k1ro> I want to uninstall Wine , uninstall steam , then Install Crossover , then steam again . anyone wanna help?
[05:18] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: oh sorry i didnt mean to hold you, i'll try that its not urgent i can try it another day thanks
[05:18] <AaronMT> friedtofu he has a linksys wmp300n
[05:18] <erstazi> k1ro: you don't need to uninstall wine or steam
[05:18] <cjae> nevermind got it
[05:18] <k1ro> erstazi I need space
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun,   mkdir /media/kalun6       then mount /dev/hda6 /media/kalun6
[05:18] <AaronMT> whats the command to list all wireless devices
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo as needed
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> AaronMT: iwconf ?
[05:19] <erstazi> k1ro: in the terminal, does the command "uninstaller" open anything?
[05:19] <badcarbine> is it possible that ubuntu automatically repairs broken partitions? I wasn't able to view anything on my hd, and now i see my files again
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> AaronMT: *iwconfig
[05:19] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: trying
[05:20] <Geoffrey2> oh, lovely....I just set up a samba server, and now find out I probably can't even use it with my other computer.......sigh.....
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> badcarbine, It does fsck when it detects errors
[05:20] <AaronMT> lo no wireless extensions
[05:20] <AaronMT> eth0 no wireless extensions
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[05:20] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[05:20] <cjae> thanks Odd-rationale
[05:20] <AaronMT> is this because hes in safe mode?
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> cjae: np
[05:21] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: great! its mounted in the mount point specified, is there a way to make it visible as a drive (or i can just use a shortcut)
[05:21] <erstazi> AaronMT: try: sudo iwconfig
[05:21] <erstazi> AaronMT: lspci -v | less
[05:21] <badcarbine> ok
[05:21] <cjae> hey what kind of file plays when you log into gnome, is it a midi
[05:21] <erstazi> AaronMT: make sure you use a pastebin service for that output
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, It should show on your desktop if volumes_visalbe is on
[05:21] <cjae> and may I change it?
[05:21] <k1ro> erstazi no
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> cjae: It is a .wav. Yes you can change it
[05:22] <cjae> Odd-rationale, is there a limit to size?
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> cjae: I don't think so...
[05:23] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: sorry i'm a quite newb is volumes_visable an option in fstab?
[05:23] <erstazi> kalun: no, its in gconf-editor
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, Usually drives mounted in /media show up on your desktop
[05:23] <AaronMT> erstazi: 05:01.0 Network controller: Broadcom Coproration BCM43XG (rev 01)
[05:23] <AaronMT> Subsystem: Linksys Unknown deviece 0060
[05:23] <Filled-Void> Hi all I have an ogg video I created using gtk-recordmydesktop but its kind of a bi video since it records my whole desktop. Id like to reduce the size of it to probably half of what it is now. The file is also in ogg format. Could anyone suggest what i could use to do this
[05:23] <cjae> Odd-rationale, ok now im pushing question limit, app to rip it off movie since I have whole movie theme going?
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, there is an option in gconf-editor called volumes_visible to turn them on or off
[05:24] <cjae> Odd-rationale, did I make much sense last question?
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !info k9copy
[05:24] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[05:24] <erstazi> AaronMT: this is the link I am using (I have a wifi issue as well): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> cjae: I think I know of an app. I've never tried to rip music of video, so I don't how that would work... Let me get link...
[05:25] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: i ran the editor in terminal to open the GNU but cant find the option is it in the file menu area
[05:25] <legend2440> kalun:  in terminal gconf-editor then go to /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43xx
[05:25] <erstazi> Filled-Void: I use LiVes when I get a gtk-recordMyDesktop
[05:25] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> can I start another windowed graphical session of say kde windowed in gnome ??
[05:26] <erstazi> !info lives | Filled-Void
[05:26] <ubotu> filled-void: Package lives does not exist in gutsy
[05:26] <legend2440> kalun:  click volumes_visible box
[05:27] <Filled-Void> erstazi, I can use a package called lives to create the video in the desired resolution I want?
[05:27] <erstazi> Filled-Void: I use lives for that, you can change the resolution of an image
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun,  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and check volumes_visable
[05:27] <kalun> legend2440: thnx
[05:28] <Filled-Void> erstazi, Image an in video correct ?
[05:28] <Filled-Void> as in*
[05:28] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: its checked but not showing on desktop, unchecked and checked refreshed desktop doesnt show
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> cjae: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kalun, goodnight... 18hours and I am outta here
[05:28] <kalun> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for your help man, day 1 on linux peace
[05:28] <erstazi> Filled-Void: http://lives.sourceforge.net
[05:29] <Filled-Void> erstazi, thank you
[05:29] <rhineheart_m> can you suggest using antivirus for ubuntu gutsy server? I just like it to be a carrier of any virus
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> !antivirus | rhineheart_m
[05:29] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners.  Is there an easiser way than envy?
[05:31] <macogw> john_: sys -> admin -> restricted driver manager
[05:31] <erstazi> !virus | rhineheart_m
[05:31] <ubotu> rhineheart_m: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:31] <macogw> john_: very common question really
[05:31] <john_> tells me my hardware doesnt need restricted drivers,  however everything is slow.  I installed envy on my last install and it sped things up a ton
[05:31] <erstazi> after attemping a quite a few hours, I am giving up (searched forums, mail lists, and search engine results), here is all my outputs I can think of: http://c-wd.net/ath/   any solution to these outputs?
[05:31] <linuxmonkey> lol yeah macgw also depends what version he is using.lol
[05:31] <cjae> !fuoco
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuoco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <macogw> john_: envy's just an unsupported script to install the nvidia binaries
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> cjae: It is not in the repos...
[05:32] <macogw> john_: do you have nvidia's drivers running right now or just vesa?
[05:32] <tyguaike> ubuntu have day record ?
[05:32] <john_> i guess just vesa
[05:32] <macogw> tyguaike: huh?
[05:33] <tyguaike> huh?
[05:33] <kayce_> hello
[05:33] <erstazi> hi kayce_
[05:33] <macogw> john_: you can install the drivers from nvidia.com if your card's not detected for the nvidia drivers in the repo
[05:33] <macogw> tyguaike: whats the question?
[05:33] <john_> i think i tried that before, I will try again and report if it works
[05:34] <tyguaike> writer day record
[05:34] <erstazi> tyguaike: writer day record?
[05:34] <cjae> Odd-rationale, ok so I would load dvd in there and sift to which part of movie would like out and extract?"
[05:34] <kayce_> im having a problem with my x server apparently, "The x server failed, Perhaps it is not configured well."
[05:34] <ToddEDM> hey guys, this may sound dumb  but how do i edit sources.list
[05:35] <macogw> john_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[05:35] <tyguaike> is a veriday writer record
[05:35] <Odd-rationale> cjae: Like I said, I never used it for that purpose before. But it claims to be able to do so...
[05:35] <macogw> tyguaike: veriday?
[05:36] <erstazi> I am just going to bash my head into the desk...
[05:36] <macogw> tyguaike: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-cn?  I see you're in that channel.  it seems what you want is something you don't know how to translate into english
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> ToddEDM: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <tyguaike> erstazi,i want writer day record  evryday
[05:36] <linuxmonkey> Its been a while since ive used linux, I love the 7.10 :) I think ive tried every versions of ubuntu since the release, anyways since im so out of touch, what IRC client do you guys suggest?
[05:36] <macogw> ToddEDM: make that "gksudo" not "sudo"
[05:36] <lordleemo> ToddEDM: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup   then   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and remove the # before the word deb
[05:37] <tyguaike> OK
[05:37] <Paddy_EIRE> can I start another windowed graphical session of say kde windowed in gnome ??
[05:37] <john_> what is gksudo?
[05:37] <erstazi> linuxmonkey: irssi
[05:37] <erstazi> john_: graphical sudo (:
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> john_: Sudo with a graphical frontend
[05:37] <macogw> ToddEDM: youre supposed to use gksudo on gui apps because sudo doesnt check X authority so it can break permissions
[05:37] <john_> oh man thats cool
[05:37] <ToddEDM> ok
[05:37] <john_> If I had known that...
[05:37] <nobara> Hi
[05:37] <BananaMon> erstazi: THANKS!!! It finally worked!~
[05:37] <macogw> linuxmonkey: irssi
[05:38] <erstazi> BananaMon: conky to you
[05:38] <erstazi> linuxmonkey: screen + irssi (adding on)
[05:38] <macogw> Paddy_EIRE: dont think so.  i think kde has a way of doing it though...
[05:38] <erstazi> BananaMon: maybe you can help with my issue
[05:38] <BananaMon> erstazi: I had to take some of the inital windowing lines from your script....and after some more stuff like that, it works even without an extra delay script
[05:38] <Kaneda15> anyone seen these errors before when attempting to boot from the ubuntu cd? or know how to deal with them?
[05:38] <Kaneda15> [82.160787] Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
[05:38] <Kaneda15> [82.160921] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[05:38] <nobara> Anyone here can give me a hand with a problem I have?
[05:38] <BananaMon> erstazi: totally thanks!~ yeah of course, I'll try
[05:38] <BananaMon> erstazi: what's up
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> macogw: no probs.. I'll look into it...
[05:38] <erstazi> BananaMon: look at http://c-wd.net/ath/
[05:38] <kayce_> i'm having a problem with my x server, when i try to use "New login in a windows", i get the error "The x server failed, Perhaps it is not configured well.", i've tried to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg", but this did nothing to help
[05:38] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'm back to my old question....I have several different computers, some running Windows, some Ubuntu, that I want to be able to access files on desktop running ubuntu....what's a good method for doing this?
[05:38] <erstazi> BananaMon: I am totally lost
[05:38] <BananaMon> erstazi: k
[05:38] <BananaMon> erstazi: just a sec
[05:39] <ToddEDM> ok i have the  sources file open, but where do i parte the lines i need to paste... just anywhere?
[05:39] <erstazi> Geoffrey2: you could setup openssh on all of them... there is openssh for windows
[05:39] <kayce_> if this is not the correct channel, can someone tell me where to go please
[05:39] <macogw> kayce_: try "xrandr --auto"?  its a crazy auto-config X thing
[05:39] <pabix> Hello! I am looking to a way to downscale an image with convert with a file weight target (e.g. 96 kilobytes). Do you have a convert option to do it?
[05:39] <erstazi> ToddEDM: at the bottom preferably
[05:39] <macogw> Geoffrey2: SAMBA
[05:39] <Odd-rationale> ToddEDM: The end would be fine
[05:39] <macogw> ToddEDM: just add to the end
[05:39] <kayce_> macogw: thank you
[05:39] <erstazi> wb J_-
[05:39] <ToddEDM> ok thank you guys
[05:39] <pabix> Geoffrey2, access... read/write or read-only?
[05:40] <Paddy_EIRE> you are on the correct channel
[05:40] <Odd-rationale> erstazi: I wasn't trying to copy you, you just got first... :P
[05:40] <Paddy_EIRE> errr
[05:40] <erstazi> Odd-rationale: its ok
[05:40] <john_> if I run an openssh server on my pc, will this put me at risk for my system to be compromised?
[05:40] <pabix> And do you want a command-line access or only access to the files?
[05:40] <macogw> john_: yes
[05:40] <erstazi> Odd-rationale: I am trying to figure my issue too
[05:40] <nobara> Anyone knows how I can remove a package that I installed with sh
[05:40] <macogw> john_: if you keep the root account locked, nobody can get in as root, so thats good
[05:40] <Odd-rationale> erstazi: me too.
[05:40] <john_> even if I have it set up with a password?
[05:40] <macogw> john_: but given enough time and computer power, your username and password could be brute forced
[05:40] <ryan_mandelbaum> i just installed mp32ogg now how do i use it?
[05:40] <john_> true.
[05:40] <erstazi> Odd-rationale: what is your problem? maybe you can help me if I help you?
[05:41] <Paddy_EIRE> nobara: what was it
[05:41] <erstazi> macogw: jails (:
[05:41] <nobara> Paddy_EIRE: netbeans
[05:41] <BananaMon> erstazi: so your wirless card is not picking up a certain connection?
[05:41] <erstazi> BananaMon: correct
[05:41] <ToddEDM> i clicked save , but it says i dont have permission to save sources.list
[05:41] <erstazi> BananaMon: is that enough output and data to see anything?
[05:41] <macogw> john_: keeping root account locked is good because even though they know the username is root, they can never get in as there's no password that would ever be correct
[05:41] <macogw> erstazi: thats a BSD thing
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> erstazi: Mine is actually very simple. Does the jamendo plugin for rhythmbox work for you?
[05:41] <erstazi> BananaMon: I thought of every bloody thing
[05:41] <BananaMon> erstazi: hmm...let me go over the outputs
[05:41] <john_> ohhh right
[05:41] <macogw> erstazi: there are no jails in linux, only chroots.
[05:41] <john_> dangit... i shoulda disabled it
[05:41] <erstazi> Odd-rationale: I use amarok
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> erstazi: What's yours?
[05:41] <macogw> erstazi: chroots can, contrary to popular belief, be broken out of
[05:41] <_Oz_> hallo all
[05:42] <rhineheart_m> Okay this is the case.. what if for servers where only the root user using it.. Is there a likelihood to infect the system without an antivirus?
[05:42] <erstazi> macogw: pishposh! ported
[05:42] <kayce_> macogw: "xrandr --auto" did nothing
[05:42] <macogw> john_: if you set a strong password and change it every few months, you're ok
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: Hello!
[05:42] <erstazi> macogw: oh I know chrooted environments are not totally safe
[05:42] <macogw> kayce_: ok. idk then.
[05:42] <john_> i have an insanely strong password
[05:42] <erstazi> hi _Oz_
[05:42] <_Oz_> hi erstazi
[05:42] <erstazi> (:
[05:42] <john_> took me 2 weeks to memorize it
[05:42] <kayce_> macogw: ok, do you know what channel would have someone that would know?
[05:42] <macogw> john_: so do i. i estimate itd take 3 months of constant trying to brute force my password even with access to the hash
[05:42] <nobara> john_: 2 weeks O.O
[05:42] <macogw> kayce_: #xorg
[05:43] <john_> thats always nice to hear :)
[05:43] <ToddEDM> Odd-rationale:  im getting a popup that says i do not have permission to save sources.list
[05:43] <kayce_> macogw: thank you much
[05:43] <erstazi> _Oz_: fancy to see you here (:
[05:43] <ryan_mandelbaum> i just installed mp32ogg now how do i use it?
[05:43] <macogw> ToddEDM: you didnt "gksudo gedit" then.
[05:43] <Geoffrey2> read/write access....that way instead of having 4-5 copies of the same file, one on each computer, I can access everything from one computer...supposedly the point of networking computers in the first place :)
[05:43] <john_> well I figure if somone wants access to my files on... well nothing really im just playing with linux they have just wasted a few weeks of their life brut forcing
[05:43] <Odd-rationale> ToddEDM: Did you edit it with sudo/gksudo
[05:43] <macogw> ToddEDM: you need the gksudo to make you root
[05:43] <erstazi> Geoffrey2: Samba or SSH, choose your pick
[05:43] <ToddEDM> ohhh ok , i had a sudo one open
[05:43] <nobara> Paddy_EIRE: no idea?
[05:43] <john_> all they can get is a fun MOTD with an ascii art of ubuntu :)
[05:43] <macogw> ToddEDM: ok sudo shouldve worked too though
[05:44] <ToddEDM> it worked now guys , thank you
[05:44] <macogw> ToddEDM: it works, its just not recommended
[05:44] <Geoffrey2> erstazi: well, I have Samba set up, I just need to figure out how to go back and undo the domain controller setup so it'll work with xp home edition
[05:44] <xim> speaking of sudo, any reason why the same password wouldnt work for su as sudo?
[05:44] <macogw> xim: root account is locked
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> xim: You set a root password?
[05:45] <macogw> xim: there is no password for it at all
[05:45] <erstazi> Geoffrey2: or you could even setup apache2 as a web server
[05:45] <xim> but sudo doesnt goto root?
[05:45] <erstazi> Geoffrey2: it depends on how much you want that data to be secured inside that network
[05:45] <xim> im a newb i thout super user meant root
[05:45] <nobara> Hello, anyone here knos how I can remove a program that installed using sh command?
[05:45] <BananaMon> erstazi: I am on a standard desktop, wired connection, so I don't really know much about wireless connections on laptops. I don't see anything in the outputs, perhaps if you connect to a network that is open and compare the outputs then.....
[05:45] <macogw> xim:  if you want to "su" use "sudo -s" or "sudo su" if you want to "su -" use "sudo -i" or "sudo su -"
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> xim: It uses the user's pass word not root's
[05:45] <Aprilis> All right, I need help.  I had to install Ubuntu because Windows wasn't being recognized by the harddisk, but I've decided to make do with it for now.
[05:45] <erstazi> BananaMon: done that (:
[05:45] <BananaMon> erstazi: I'm going to google it though, and see what comes up
[05:45] <macogw> xim: it doesnt su (switch user) to root.  it just runs that command as root
[05:45] <BananaMon> erstazi: can you connect to other open networks?
[05:45] <john_> Thanks alot guys,  I always find plenty of help here.  untill next time I have a noob quesiton.  take care
[05:45] <erstazi> BananaMon: I dropped the WPA2 security and went open and tested
[05:45] <Aprilis> I am having trouble getting any .avi files I've downloaded to play--and having trouble downloading some to begin with!
[05:45] <Aprilis> I'm using Azureus.
[05:46] <xim> ic thanks
[05:46] <macogw> nobara: umm well it shouldve come with an uninstaller
[05:46] <erstazi> BananaMon: I have busted my brains for hours over this
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> xim: User get root access by deing added to the sudoers file. They use their own passwd for sudo, not root's
[05:46] <macogw> nobara: sh is just telling the script to execute in a shell
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> erstazi: well, I'm using a private network address range behind a router, so I'm not sure how much more securing I'd need
[05:46]  * nobara macogw: well
[05:46] <bruenig> sh invokes the /bin/sh executable
[05:46] <BananaMon> erstazi: maybe it's the router then. Maybe the router is rejecting the connection from your card, instead of that problem being with your card
[05:46] <bruenig> it is a program
[05:46] <erstazi> Geoffrey2: so, you could, if you don't like samba, either use apache2 or ssh or whatever
[05:46] <bruenig> the script becoems an argument to that program
[05:46] <BananaMon> erstazi: what is the router/server? what company/model
[05:46] <erstazi> BananaMon: it worked in windows
[05:46] <Aprilis> Anyone?
[05:46] <kayce_> macogw: there appears to be no one present in #xorg
[05:47] <erstazi> BananaMon: Linksys WRT54G (:
[05:47] <erstazi> BananaMon: the router works with my Nokia 770
[05:47] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah exactly, maybe the router does not identify the linux drivers, or maybe because of closed-source technology, it is black listed
[05:47] <macogw> erstazi: one of the old ones that runs linux or the new crappy ones?
[05:47] <macogw> BananaMon: those run linux
[05:47] <erstazi> macogw: older
[05:47] <BananaMon> erstazi: hm..the WRT is a great router, let me look it up
[05:47] <erstazi> macogw: DD-WRT
[05:47] <nobara> macogw: and where I can find the uninstaler?
[05:47] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah
[05:47] <BananaMon> erstazi: oh you use DDWRT, I love that stuff
[05:47] <BananaMon> erstazi: let me google
[05:48] <erstazi> macogw: the issue: http://c-wd.net/ath/
[05:48] <macogw> nobara: shouldve come with it. if it didnt....umm...too bad.
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> erstazi: it's not a matter of like or dislike....when I was trying to set something up, I was referred to directions on setting up Samba and openldap, only problem being XP Home hasn't a clue what to do with domains.....so I need to go back and undo the domain controller part of it
[05:48] <xim> exit
[05:48] <xim> oops
[05:48] <xim> heh
[05:48] <macogw> xim /quit
[05:48] <Aprilis> Maybe I should be more specific.  Whenever I try to play an .avi file, it says this:  An error occured.  Could not determine type of stream.
[05:48] <nobara> macogw: too bad? O.O
[05:48] <_Oz_> does everyone pretty much agree that VLC is the best video player in ubuntu?
[05:48] <xim> i thought i was inthe terminal
[05:48] <manic12> is there anybody here who knows about opengl/glx stuff?
[05:48] <nobara> macogw: no way of removing it?
[05:48] <ryan_mandelbaum> i just installed mp32ogg now how do i use it?
[05:48] <macogw> nobara: well you could read the install script and see what it did and undo all of that by hand..
[05:48] <erstazi> xim: I do that a lot, don't worry (:
[05:48] <macogw> Aprilis: do you have codecs?
[05:49] <macogw> _Oz_: yeah pretty much
[05:49] <Aprilis> Man, this channel is much busier than I could have ever imagined.  Can someone please PM me?  I need help with very noobish stuff.    I don't know anything.  I am like the lowest level of noob.
[05:49] <erstazi> _Oz_: I got stuck using amarok because my step-daughter wanted her ipod music ):
[05:49] <macogw> Aprilis: applications -> add/remove.  click the thing in the top right to make it show all software available, then search for ubuntu restricted extras (or ubuntu-restricted-extras) and install that
[05:49] <mosibfu> Aprilis, sounds like you dont have the gstreamer plugins that supply you with certain codecs
[05:49] <_Oz_> speak of the devil, right as I say that VLC freezes up on me
[05:50] <erstazi> Aprilis: everyone has a beginning
[05:50] <Cyclonut> Howdy folks - so, ive got a weird issue with sound.
[05:50] <_Oz_> erstazi: I like amarok :)
[05:50] <Cyclonut> after using Pandora (http://www.pandora.com) often, my sound will stop working
[05:50] <macogw> Aprilis: thats ok.  i really ticked off a kid at my school because i asked him everything when i started using ubuntu..and he's not even a linux user. he's a freebsd user.
[05:50] <erstazi> _Oz_: are you busy?
[05:50] <Cyclonut> it is like pandora crashes alsa
[05:50] <Cyclonut> if it helps, I am using realtek integrated sound
[05:50] <_Oz_> not terribly so, erstazi
[05:50] <erstazi> _Oz_: mind if you look at http://c-wd.net/ath/ ?
[05:51] <macogw> erstazi: why not Exaile?  It's GTK Amarok.  My sister uses Rhythmbox for her iPOd
[05:51] <Cyclonut> I have restarted alsa-utils to no avail
[05:51] <_Oz_> sure
[05:51] <Aprilis> macogw:  Show all available applications?
[05:51] <erstazi> macogw: did things in a hurry 1 year ago, never switched back
[05:51] <cjae> Odd-rationale, ok where are the login wavs kept?
[05:51] <macogw> Aprilis: yes
[05:51] <BananaMon> erstazi: do you get limited connectivity mssgs? or can you not even find the network?
[05:51] <Odd-rationale> cjae: /usr/share/sounds
[05:51] <nobara> well thanks guys
[05:51] <nobara> have a good night rest
[05:51] <erstazi> macogw: and over 10,000 mp3's, its hard to imagine loading another player with that collection
[05:51] <_Oz_> erstazi: oh man, I'm the wrong guy to ask for this. :( I've never successfully gotten a laptop running on wireless in ubuntu.
[05:51] <macogw> Aprilis: codecs are what tell the computer how to decode songs and videos.  different types of files use different ones.  because of stupid US patent laws, Ubuntu isn't allowed to include them
[05:52] <erstazi> BananaMon: cannot even find any networks, even walked outside where I know my Nokia 770 can find them
[05:52] <macogw> erstazi: haha i see
[05:52] <erstazi> BananaMon: I think its not scanning, but I am clueless on this wifi networking
[05:52] <Aprilis> macogw:  All right, I'm installing ubuntu restricted extras.  This is the codecs?
[05:52] <macogw> erstazi: one thing i *love* about rhythmbox is that unlike banshee it watches my library properly and just grabs them when it sees something new
[05:52] <erstazi> BananaMon: I just plug in the WPA2 passphrase and I am done thats all
[05:52] <_Oz_> what do I type in the terminal to get a list of my processes so I can find the UID to kill?  VLC is frozen and I can't shut it down.
[05:53] <erstazi> _Oz_: htop or top
[05:53] <BananaMon> erstazi: are you client mode? because that won't work
[05:53] <Cyclonut> erstazi - ps -a
[05:53] <macogw> Aprilis: its more than just the codecs. itll also get you flash, microsoft fonts (like Times New Roman), and a couple other things I can't remember. flash, i think... everything you need, basically
[05:53] <cjae> Odd-rationale, so just rename new file to login.wav and delete old one?
[05:53] <erstazi> BananaMon: clientmode?
[05:53] <Torikun> Check out compiz on the eee pc, http://rusher.webhop.org/wordpress/?p=85
[05:53] <Cyclonut> erstazi: or, ps -a | grep vlc
[05:53] <macogw> Aprilis: oh i said flash twice.
[05:53] <Cyclonut> erstazi - or skipping that, pkill vlc
[05:53] <macogw> Aprilis: java tooo, i think
[05:53] <erstazi> Cyclonut: ty tell _Oz_
[05:53] <l815> what's a good language translator program?
[05:53] <Odd-rationale> cjae: No. Go to System --> Pref --> Sounds and change the login sound
[05:53] <Aprilis> macogw:  This is wonderful!  It looks like it's going to take a while, but it'll be worth it.  I've been missing Times New Roman something fierce.
[05:53] <Cyclonut> erstazi: hah, lines are blending together, sorry
[05:54] <erstazi> l815: http://babelfish.altavista.com (:
[05:54] <erstazi> Cyclonut: its ok
[05:54] <Cyclonut> _Oz_: ps -a | grep vlc to get the UID. Alternatively, use pkill vlc to skip the UID part
[05:54] <l815> erstazi, yes but i want a program :P
[05:54] <BananaMon> erstazi: WRT works in 2 modes, client and WDS. If you are in client mode, then the problem you are describing will occur, though it should occur for ALL wireless clients....is that the case?
[05:54] <erstazi> BananaMon: ah, no not client mode
[05:54] <erstazi> BananaMon: its not the router, I can say that
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> _Oz_: One way kill is to do alt+f2 and type in xkill. Then click on the frozen window. Sometimes this doesn't kill it properly though...
[05:55] <erstazi> BananaMon: I removed the security at this moment too
[05:55] <Aprilis> macogw:  Man, you guys are so nice.  I've tried asking people on another channel in another server, and they all called me stupid and said I didn't deserve to use Ubuntu.  :<
[05:55] <BananaMon> erstazi: oh, so you can connect wirelessly from say windows?
[05:55] <_Oz_> thanks, Odd-rationale
[05:55] <erstazi> BananaMon: yes
[05:55] <_Oz_> and cyclonut
[05:55] <erstazi> BananaMon: and with my nokia 770
[05:55] <Cyclonut> _Oz_: np
[05:55] <BananaMon> erstazi: ah...
[05:55] <macogw> Aprilis: if you dont mind the suggestion, check out the Liberation Fonts.  they're metric compatible with (same size as) Arial, Times, and Courier, but i think they look nicer. i especially like the serifs on Liberation Serif (Red Hat's answer to Times New Roman) http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/libe/liberation-fonts/ttf-liberation_0.1-0.1_all.deb
[05:55] <Cyclonut> _Oz_: using pkill is my favorite, though :)
[05:55] <erstazi> Aprilis: what?!?! Ubuntu is the AOL of Linux
[05:55] <macogw> Aprilis: they're @$$holes
[05:55] <Aprilis> I know, right!
[05:56] <Aprilis> It wasn't even my choice.
[05:56] <k1ro> I want to use my second drive as Data but I dont see linux doesnt detect (i think) the drive
[05:56] <erstazi> Aprilis: ignore them, this is the official IRC channel
[05:56] <paul---> I have multiple ip addresses on my dedicated server, and want the ability to rate limit by IP and measure bandwidth by IP. I've investigated this endlessly.. but snmp is flawed as it only measures bw on the interface (eth0) not (eth0:1.. etc) .. how can i get round this?
[05:56] <Aprilis> macogw:  Will check it out!
[05:56] <macogw> Aprilis: the link installs them.  if you dont like 'em, dont use them, but they look nice
[05:56] <erstazi> BananaMon: see, it is very complex
[05:56] <Aprilis> macogw:  I am all for new fonts.  I love fonts.
[05:56] <erstazi> BananaMon: and I am lost which way to go, I have tried both ndiswrapper and madwifi
[05:56] <macogw> Aprilis: http://existentialtype.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/liberation-comparison.png
[05:57] <paul---> i was thinking potentially some sort of 'virtual interface adaptor' a bit like what you would use for vmware? .. but i dont want to use vmware i want to use the ips the same way i would use it if it was bound on eth0:1
[05:57] <Cyclonut> erstazi: what about bwcutter?
[05:57] <xslh> :)
[05:57] <macogw> Aprilis: there's side-by-side the Microsoft fonts, Liberation, Bitstream (which is included in Ubuntu)
[05:57] <paul---> with the ability to measure traffic, and ratelimit ofcourse :/
[05:57] <_Oz_> I like htop
[05:57] <erstazi> Cyclonut: never saw it, will it work with AR5006EG? this is the issue I am having: http://c-wd.net/ath/
[05:57] <_Oz_> thanks for that tip
[05:57] <_Oz_> just installed it
[05:57] <Aprilis> Cool!  Nice, simple, text fonts.
[05:57] <Aprilis> Very nice.
[05:57] <Torikun> Check out compiz on the eee pc, http://rusher.webhop.org/wordpress/?p=85
[05:57] <erstazi> _Oz_: I use it sometimes, its more detailed than top
[05:58] <BananaMon> erstazi: yeah, erstazi.....I can't find any solutions to this online either.....logically speaking, the problem seems to be of communication between the 2 devices. Have you tried using another version of DD-WRT?
[05:58] <dubby> hey anyone, im having trouble starting amarok, im using ubuntu gutsy and xgl / compiz and when i start amarok it tells me it cannot find kmail
[05:58] <BananaMon> erstazi: or here's an idea!
[05:58] <Cyclonut> erstazi: dunno, but thats what I use to work with my broadcom-based wireless card.
[05:58] <erstazi> BananaMon: I think its the actual chip
[05:58] <macogw> dubby: use exaile instead
[05:58] <erstazi> BananaMon: and thats what worries me ):
[05:58] <macogw> dubby: amarok wants kde stuff, for example kmail.  exaile is the gtk version of amarok.
[05:58] <BananaMon> erstazi: use restricted drivers from windows on your linux instead of the open source ones
[05:58] <BananaMon> erstazi: could that help?
[05:58] <erstazi> BananaMon: have done that
[05:58] <macogw> dubby: meaning it doesnt need to load a ton of extra libraries from kde inside your gnome
[05:58] <erstazi> BananaMon: thats what ndiswrapper does
[05:59] <r0b> when is the release date for 8.04 anyone know?
[05:59] <BananaMon> erstazi: haha..you've tried everything eh
[05:59] <macogw> r0b: april 24
[05:59] <erstazi> BananaMon: almost, I am probably missing something
[05:59] <BananaMon> r0b: in april I think
[05:59] <macogw> BananaMon: thats the obvious answer
[05:59] <erstazi> BananaMon: thats why I put together that small html doc with the outputs
[05:59] <r0b> macogw: ty
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> ok, since a domain controller is out, would samba with wins support work reasonably well?
[05:59] <r0b> BananaMon: ty
[05:59] <dubby> ok macogw
[05:59] <erstazi> BananaMon: because I might have missed *one* thing