[07:03] <lordfreak> I am still Tuning my Ubuntu..... Thanks Seveas :P ccc and co
[07:04] <lordfreak> Iam going to try
[07:04] <Seveas> nalioth, most info I have comes from the wiki or is developed on the wiki in parallel :)
[07:04] <amel> i did a: mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password, in order to install mysql, but what is the password of the user?
[07:04] <qt2> rndrdbrian, and honestly, i have no idea as to the problem, perhaps someone else could help you more, that seems like a rather odd one.
[07:04] <wdh> hi ppls.. i've been trying to unmount an unused partition.. 'mount' complains about it being used and 'fuser' doesnt list anything using it.. Does anyone have any ideas left?
[07:04] <wdh> of course i could reboot, but i just don't feel like it :P
[07:04] <teferi> wdh: you have a shell open that has a directory on the partition as its current working directory
[07:04] <Seveas> wdh, lsof | grep /mountpoint/ show nothing too?
[07:04] <teferi> check your terminal windowsa
[07:05] <tim> might it be possible that my X11 is broken? ive editted the config to only display 1280x1024, but when ever i start it up, always 1280x768(so all my stuff is really skinny)
[07:05] <wdh> Seveas, it does, thx :P
[07:05] <dammage> ok, updating the tree ...
[07:05] <amel> can anyone tell me that?
[07:05] <MagiPink> Huh...   The "Add a Printer" dialogue appears, but it is blank
[07:05] <hybrid_goth> MagiPink: Ubuntu doesnt like anything it is a very angry distro
[07:06] <wdh> nalioth, nope..
[07:06] <teferi> sorry
[07:06] <nalioth> wdh: hmm do you run any kde apps?
[07:06] <MagiPink> It won't let me play 3D games... Heh.
[07:06] <dammage> Use LBA32 for addressing big disks using new BIOS features (liloconfig asks) , hdd is 8.5 Gigs small, should I say yes or no?
[07:06] <wdh> nalioth, sometimes
[07:06] <Seveas> nalioth, gam_serve isn't KDE specific :)
[07:07] <Seveas> dammage, yes
[07:07] <vader1102> I may try kubuntu sometime soon, right now just getting used to Ububtu period lol
[07:07] <dammage> ok
[07:07] <wdh> Seveas, gam_serve seems to think it needs to preserve some Trash-file
[07:07] <Seveas> wdh, simply kill gam_serve :)
[07:07] <nalioth> wdh: iirc, gam_server has something to do with kde file managment/organization
[07:07] <dammage> grr (in chroot): Fatal: open /dev/hda2: Permission denied
[07:07] <ccc> H00chster: i am (amd64 on hoary x86)
[07:08] <digitalfox> nalioth, both KDE and GNOME
[07:08] <H00chster> ccc: Have you compiled a vanilla kernel?
[07:08] <digitalfox> nalioth, what it does is notify nautilus/konq of changes in the file system
[07:08] <Crembo> wow, hehehe. so I got Ubuntu live to work. first time with linux. took a while to configure my network through DHCP, then threw it out the windows - I had to figure out how to enable eth0 myself. meanwhile, the screen is stuck at 60hz and the default screensaver is taxing my radeon9800 so hard my fans go all the way up to "real noisy".
[07:08] <Seveas> dammage, before chrooting: mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev
[07:08] <nalioth> wdh: see digitalfox's answer
[07:09] <digitalfox> try killing gam_server then mv'ing a file to your desktop from commandline
[07:09] <digitalfox> it won't show up
[07:09] <Seveas> :)
[07:09] <digitalfox> until you refresh your desktop
[07:09] <dammage> ok, moment, thanks for the hint (i did a plain chroot)
[07:09] <wdh> gam_serve doesnt seem to get killed :S
[07:09] <Seveas> dammage, mount -o bind /proc /chroot/proc will help too
[07:09] <digitalfox> wdh, sometimes it hangs for no reason
[07:09] <Seveas> wdh, it's gam_server
[07:09] <ccc> H00chster: no, sorry
[07:09] <rndrdbrian> hmmm, managed to add printer via localhost:631
[07:10] <nalioth> wdh: i kill mine all the time
[07:10] <Nerull> Hi can anyone help me on a good howto to put up an e-mail server?
[07:10] <wdh> Seveas, it just comes up with another PID and still seems to lock /windows
[07:10] <wdh> (the dir i wanted to unmount/delete)
[07:10] <dammage> Seveas, whereby /chroot is my ubuntu mount point, right?
[07:10] <H00chster> ccc: thanks for the reply, was trying to clean up kernel and install ATI drivers etc, boots fine to default kernel, but vanilla boots up and even into KDE login, but I have /home mounted from /dev/hdb1 and it doens't mount it for some reason, all is fine in /etc/fstab etc any ideas?
[07:11] <tim> im trying to find some gnome panel 'plugins'...you know, those little buttons that launch or display stuff. what is the correct name for these items so that i can search for them?
[07:11] <Nerull> Quikstart
[07:11] <nalioth> tim: panel applets
[07:11] <tim> ahh, applets. thank you
[07:11] <rndrdbrian> bizzarre, anyway, at least printer works now.
[07:11] <Seveas> dammage, correct
[07:12] <dammage> Reading boot sector from /dev/hda2 - and then the fatal error, hmm, but i have an idea
[07:12] <Nerull> Hi can anyone help me on a good howto to put up an e-mail server?
[07:12] <dammage> maybe it is because of mounted hda2, i'll try to install it to a floppy
[07:12] <dabaR> Nerull: google likely. Or the wiki.
[07:12] <dammage> what should I specify as a floppy - root or boot in the configuration file?
[07:13] <Nerull> dabaR Wiki stands for ?
[07:13] <dabaR> wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <Nerull> I know but i was wondering where Wiki stands for.
[07:14] <ccc> H00chster: sorry for my reply slowness :) but that's weird. you're sure the fstab is correct? then i have no idea.
[07:14] <dabaR> what? You mean, you want to know the meaning of the word wiki?
[07:14] <Nerull> Yes.
[07:14] <regeya_> wiki-wiki == fast
[07:14] <dabaR> Nerull: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
[07:14] <H00chster> ccc: ya fstab is the same as the default kernel and it mounts fine, it is proc first then my boot drive for root /  and then /home  so it is in order.  Gotta be something in kernel but I am lost lmao, thanks for the help!
[07:14] <ateves_> is anyone using sidecandy plugins for gdesklets?
[07:14] <regeya_> as in this quote from Blue Hawaii starring Elvis Presley:  "Wiki-wiki, to the beach!"
[07:15] <dabaR> for words, en.wikipedia.org, for searches, google.
[07:16] <iceman> anyone know where i can find benchmarks comparing a P4 2.8 Ghz ... to a AMD 64  2800 ..... compared ...
[07:16] <vader1102> well all it is time for me to go and eat a littl bit of lunch; see you in an hour or so
[07:16] <qt2> iceman, google.
[07:16] <dabaR> iceman: google?
[07:16] <dabaR> vader1102: see ya.
[07:16] <gigaclon> iceman goole
[07:17] <dabaR> haha, three diff autocompletions.
[07:17] <vader1102> iceman: google works great!
[07:17] <lonetree> hello all
[07:17] <Une-ga-dihi> anyone know how to have ThunderBird check /var/mail?
[07:18] <qt2> i was first, they rest of you are all just copycat googlers ;)
[07:18] <dabaR> good question.
[07:18] <dabaR> qt2: You are lucky I had to go to the washroom.
[07:18] <dabaR> and also happy for the same reason
[07:18] <iceman> WOW... the AMD is above a p4 3.2 ... nice upgrade i have in the works ...
[07:19] <Hajuu> heyy
[07:19] <Hajuu> Um.
[07:19] <gigaclon> there are 10 types of people in the world, those who use google and those that don't
[07:19] <dabaR> ya, cant wait to get my super duper fast blazin amazin processor myself...
[07:19] <mbirkis_> iceman: what was the url to the benchmark?
[07:19] <dabaR> hi all.
[07:19] <HappyFool> randomercuser
[07:19] <HappyFool> oops
[07:19] <iceman> http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=33
[07:19] <Nerull> So ubuntu have like 3 stages (Warty Warthog, Hoary Hedgehog and Breezy Badger) but how can i get my system to run as a development (Breezy badger) release ?
[07:20] <qt2> dabaR, heh, not really, i'm jsut happily sitting here listening to a podcast. ;)
[07:20] <thenuke> Nerull: no you do not want to have breezy.
[07:20] <mbirkis_> gigaclon: lol... it kinda lost it's meening with! :D
[07:20] <dabaR> Nerull: why, tho?
[07:20] <Nerull> thenuke why not ?
[07:20] <thenuke> Nerull: :-) if you can handle it, you know how to do it ;)
[07:20] <thenuke> Nerull: it will brake.
[07:20] <Nerull> lol
[07:20] <HappyFool> Nerull: somewhere on www.ubuntulinux.org, there's probably an install CD
[07:20] <dabaR> qt2: what, you are not happy I pseudo went washroom
[07:20] <thenuke> Nerull: it will break I mean t say
[07:20] <Hajuu> I am on a dialup connection and because the Gnome dialup program sucks majorly.. I'm using pon and poff... But uhm.. I never get told when my connection has been disconnected... Is there an applet or something for this?
[07:20] <thenuke> Nerull: and its not matter of LOL
[07:21] <Nerull> HappyFool the only version i can find if Hoary Hedgehog.
[07:21] <thenuke> Nerull: you aint developer :P it is not for you ;) sorry ;)
[07:21] <HappyFool> Nerull: alternatively, install hoary, change /etc/apt/sources.list to point to breezy instead of hoary and do a 'dist-upgrade'
[07:21] <dabaR> HappyFool: an install cd for breeezy? I doubt it.
[07:21] <dammage> ok, ive got an idea, installing lilo on floppy ... formatting :)
[07:21] <HappyFool> Nerull: look for 'colony' cds; i think that's what they're called
[07:21] <dabaR> thenuke: well, there is ppl that are not developers that use it.
[07:21] <thenuke> dabaR: well, some of them know how to handle it.
[07:21] <dabaR> Nerull: why use it? there is nothing special, just more trouble.
[07:21] <Nerull> Indeed its only for the newest releases of packages that i wanna have :)
[07:22] <thenuke> dabaR: and they who do know how to, absolutely wont ask the chanell about how to upgrade :D
[07:22] <wdh> YAY, i finally managed to unmount the partition held locked by gam_server. I had to run 'killall gam_server' and 'umount' in one line  a few times :P
[07:22] <HappyFool> Nerull: gentoo may be more to your taste; or debian testing/unstable
[07:22] <thenuke> Nerull: how about the backports then?
[07:22] <dabaR> agreed on those points first time you said it, thenuke
[07:22] <Nerull> I dont know anything about that thenuke
[07:22] <qt2> dabaR, err, that's really your business, not mine.
[07:22] <dabaR> wdh, you are now a hacker like the rest of us...
[07:22] <dabaR> qt2: come on, rejoice, dude.
[07:23] <qt2> dabaR, i'm sure i will someday.
[07:23] <rndrdbrian> thanks for the help re: printer, I now have it working.
[07:23] <qt2> dabaR, now its my turn to go to the tangible washroom ;)
[07:23] <dabaR> HappyFool: you have weird suggestions.
[07:23] <rndrdbrian> added cupsys to shadow in /etc/group, which let me add the printer using localhost:631 webadmin
[07:23] <HappyFool> dabaR: yzat?
[07:23] <dabaR> qt2: wow, I am so happy:)
[07:23] <dabaR> lol
[07:24] <dabaR> all right, enough about that.
[07:24] <dabaR> HappyFool: well, you saw how noone else told him how to upgrade, and you did.
[07:24] <thenuke> Nerull: add these to your sources
[07:24] <thenuke> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:24] <thenuke> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:24] <Hajuu> hey uhm... Anyone know something I can use to record streaming audio directly to MP3 file?
[07:24] <BollocksMacenzie> Anyone ever installed Unreal Tournament under ubuntu? Having a little trouble running it.
[07:24] <HappyFool> dabaR: *shrug* if people have been warned, i see no reason to stand in their way
[07:24] <sophtpaw> does anyone have any experience of how ubuntu functions with dial-up?
[07:24] <dabaR> then, also, maybe gentoo is more for you is a weird thing to say.
[07:24] <thenuke> Nerull: because I really doubt that you really want to try to break your system ;)
[07:25] <Hajuu> sophtpaw:  I do.
[07:25] <sophtpaw> ok
[07:25] <HappyFool> not everyone has the same requirements; some people like to play with bleeding edge software
[07:25] <dabaR> BollocksMacenzie: yes, any people have installed it.
[07:25] <thenuke> breezy is under development, it is not stable :)
[07:25] <BollocksMacenzie> sophtpaw: Yep, what do you need?
[07:25] <Nerull> So if i use those reps i would be okay ?
[07:25] <pking1977> I am having a strange problem installing ubuntu.. The cd stops right after you hit enter for a normal install
[07:25] <dabaR> HappyFool: agreed. Still ubuntu is as good a choice as any:) jj, cool.
[07:25] <pking1977> has anyone had anything remotely close to that?
[07:25] <Nerull> thenuke so if i use these i would be okay ?
[07:26] <sophtpaw> Hajuu-its just one on the community forum, someone said that ubuntu likes a fat pipe (broadband) or something
[07:26] <Hajuu> Yeah...
[07:26] <Hajuu> Um.
[07:26] <dammage> Seveas, how can I access host's /dev/ devices in chroot? I have access denied to all /chroot/dev devices ...
[07:26] <Hajuu> Don't use the GNOME connection manager.
[07:26] <sophtpaw> I'm trying to get a friend to emigrate from windoze to ubuntu, but he's concerned because he only has dial-up
[07:26] <dabaR> pking1977: the intallation cd can get corrupted if downloading the iso from the web.
[07:26] <HappyFool> pking1977: hmm, sounds awkward. Do you have windows or another linux/other OS installed?
[07:26] <thenuke> Nerull: yup, although it is possible that those backports two can break something but if that happens, they will only break one or two programs on your box. and you can easily fix it up then
[07:26] <Hajuu> Use the command line "pon" "poff" and "pppconfig"
[07:26] <sophtpaw> i want to be able to  reassure him
[07:26] <dabaR> pking1977: verify its md5sum or something.
[07:26] <BollocksMacenzie> debaR: It says...dirname: too few arguments *then* Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?
[07:26] <Hajuu> Well i'm on dialup right now.
[07:26] <Hajuu> Runs better than it did on windows.
[07:26] <Hajuu> :)
[07:26] <dammage> e.g. user@chroot# fdformat /dev/fd0 - permission denied
[07:27] <sophtpaw> hehe
[07:27] <zth> what's the terminal command to get the mouse running? using usb and forgot to plug it in before start
[07:27] <Hajuu> Just not so good for doing multiple things simultaniously
[07:27] <thenuke> Nerull: backports have newest versions of most common packages, so I think that those are what you need
[07:27] <Hajuu> Cause' its flow control is somewhat impaired.
[07:27] <dabaR> thenuke: leave backports commented out when not gettting a program from them.
[07:27] <sophtpaw> k
[07:27] <dabaR> Hajuu: what was your question again?
[07:28] <Hajuu> "Anyone know something I can use to record streaming audio directly to MP3 file? On linux ofcourse."
[07:28] <sexcopter8000m> how can i clear the drop-down list of previous searches in the search for files thing in ubuntu?
[07:28] <BollocksMacenzie> Has anyone got any ideas on what to do?
[07:28] <dabaR> ah, well, did you ask synaptic?
[07:28] <dammage> ... or what variable do I have to modify to make the host system to find libraries in /chroot/lib?
[07:29] <Hajuu> How do I do that? just search for recorder? :/
[07:29] <Hajuu> lol
[07:29] <dabaR> streamripper
[07:29] <dabaR> or something.
[07:29] <dmk2004> ubuntu hoary x64  - ATI Drivers available via synaptic?
[07:29] <BollocksMacenzie> Ah! I've got to go... L8R...
[07:29] <dabaR> stream is a good keyword there.
[07:29] <Hajuu> Ok found one tool for it.. but its only for shoutcast stations...
[07:30] <qt2> Hajuu, streamripper?
[07:30] <dabaR> Hajuu: see that is elling you to switch to shoutcast;
[07:30] <yuacht> ok, how do i set up dmix for soundblaster? currently it's set up for nforce 2 cards (what i used before=
[07:30] <Hajuu> Switch to shoutcast? :/ Oh ok.. I'll go tell the radio station that, dabar. :P
[07:31] <qt2> Hajuu, what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:31] <Hajuu> Can't I just configure gnome-sound-recorder to record the same data going to the lineout as opposed to capturing from the line in or mic line?
[07:31] <dabaR> sexcopter8000m: wait
[07:32] <Hajuu> qt2:  I'm listening to a digital stream of a radio station through Xine.. and I want to record it :)
[07:32] <nalioth> Hajuu: streamripper
[07:32] <Hajuu> Streamripper is just for shoutcast.
[07:33] <Hajuu> (according to synaptic)
[07:33] <Hajuu> And this uses ASX
[07:33] <nalioth> Hajuu: mmsclient
[07:33] <nJess> Hajuu, just try it
[07:33] <Hajuu> mmsclient eg
[07:33] <Hajuu> eh
[07:33] <Hajuu> Not found on my apt-get
[07:35] <qt2> Hajuu, streamtuner.
[07:35] <Hajuu> i'll give it a go :)
[07:36] <dmk2004> ubuntu hoary x64  - ATI Drivers available via synaptic?
[07:37] <HappyFool> dmk2004: not sure; have you tried the instructions on the wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto page?
[07:37] <Hajuu> Gr.. Another problem (my ONLY problem i'm having with ubuntu might I add :D) my dialup seems to suffer from severe flow control problems or something... So if one application is using my internet connection rather intensely, nothing else can use it... I'm using "pon" and "poff" to connect... Anyone have any ideas?
[07:37] <Seveas> dmk2004, if they are, they're in the restricted-modules packages
[07:37] <nalioth> Hajuu: no, you
[07:38] <Hajuu> no, me?
[07:38] <nalioth> 'll have to google it or search on sourceforge.net for it
[07:38] <Hajuu> oh yeah found the page...
[07:38] <Hajuu> sounds.. complicated heh
[07:38] <qt2> nalioth, he probably prefers to stick to apt-get... ;)
[07:38] <Hajuu> Pretty much.
[07:39] <Hajuu> I am not good at compiling etc etc.
[07:39] <nalioth> qt2: well, mmxclient, mmsrip, and other microsoft rippers dont seem to be smiled upon for inclusion with the pkgs
[07:39] <nalioth> Hajuu: well mmsclient is a very simple compile (and there are other forks of it)
[07:39] <subiiminal> whats the su password be default?
[07:39] <qt2> nalioth, heh, and your answer to w32codecs? ;)
[07:40] <apokryphos> subiiminal: no root; Ubuntu uses sudo
[07:40] <apokryphos> !rootsudo
[07:40] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:40] <typo> anyone know what's up with xkb in breezy?
[07:41] <hybrid> compiling gives you thing apt doesnt
[07:42] <thesilentkiller> what is the UI equivalent of apt-get?
[07:42] <Seveas> synaptic
[07:42] <Razor-X> thesilentkiller: apt-get _is_ a UI ;)
[07:42] <hybrid>  thesilentkiller: synaptic
[07:42] <thesilentkiller> :-?
[07:42] <apokryphos> thesilentkiller: Synaptic, Kynaptic, KPackage
[07:42] <Razor-X> the GUI equivalent is Synaptic
[07:42] <Seveas> Razor-X, I assume he meant GUI ;)
[07:42] <Razor-X> or Kynaptic if you're on KDE
[07:43] <Razor-X> UI == User Interface
[07:43] <hybrid> synaptic is  a front end to apt thats a front end to dpkg
[07:43] <Razor-X> GUI == Command Line Interface
[07:43] <thesilentkiller> grrr...Razor-X ok....GUI
[07:43] <thesilentkiller> X(
[07:43] <Razor-X> ;)
[07:43] <Razor-X> errr!
[07:43] <zaphands> Hello everyone! How I add a TV capture card to my Ubuntu machine?
[07:43] <Razor-X> GUI == Graphical User Interface
[07:43] <Razor-X> woops, that was stupid
[07:43] <thesilentkiller> omg....
[07:43] <Crembo> hey everyone! from Ubuntu live, how do I access my NTFS partitions?
[07:44] <dabaR> Crembo: mount it
[07:44] <zaphands> Crembo - Read Only
[07:44] <yuacht> where can i find the messages that scrolls at startup?
[07:44] <chrissturm> yuacht: dmesg
[07:44] <Crembo> read only is fine. mount it - how? I'm a complete linux newbie. that's why I went for the live version, for fear of mucking my system up.
[07:44] <Seveas> Crembo, mount -t ntfs /dev/your_ntfs_drive /path/to/mountpoint -o umask=0000
[07:44] <typo> anyone know why gnome complains about not being able to use xkb in breezy?
[07:44] <Seveas> Crembo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[07:44] <yuacht> chrissturm, tried that, doesn't show it all
[07:44] <Seveas> that may be easier :)
[07:45] <chrissturm> typo: because X is broken in breezy
[07:45] <zaphands> does anyone know how to install new hardware?
[07:45] <Crembo> Seveas: might need to wait until I actually install Ubuntu, this way I could download and configure things :0
[07:45] <chrissturm> yuacht: /var/log/kernel.log
[07:45] <Crembo> one thing's bothering me though, and that's the screen refresh rate being stuck at 60Hz and some oddities with graphical acceleration
[07:45] <hybrid> is it say to install pkgs from a livecd?
[07:45] <Crembo> how can I raise my screen refresh rates?
[07:45] <Seveas> Crembo, that's better on installed syste,s
[07:45] <Seveas> systems*
[07:46] <zaphands> Crembo - Yodea Ivrit?
[07:46] <Seveas> Crembo: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:46] <Crembo> zaphans: ,     .
[07:46] <zaphands>  -
[07:46] <Seveas> Crembo, stick to english in here please...
[07:46] <typo> chrissturm: heh, that would be a good reason
[07:46] <redlounge> hi anyone. someone can tell me if it is bad for some daemons (e.g. apache mysql..) if i do not shutdown them properly?
[07:46] <zaphands> EFnet #linux.il
[07:46] <BRKN_LDR> i'm getting a problem with this module:
[07:46] <Seveas> redlounge, yes
[07:46] <Crembo> zaphands: alright, thank you.
[07:46] <BRKN_LDR> Unpacking realtime-lsm (from .../realtime-lsm_0.1.1-5_all.deb) ... / Setting up realtime-lsm (0.1.1-5) ... / Loading Realtime Linux Security Module: not found
[07:46] <Seveas> your mysql DB's can get f*ed up
[07:46] <BRKN_LDR> why the hell does xchat not give you the option to automatically remove carriage returns from pastes.
[07:47] <redlounge> Seveas, ok. short answer. what can happen? isnt the kill command at shutdown ok?
[07:47] <BRKN_LDR> can anyone give me any advise on the installation of my realtime module?
[07:47] <dodoptotron> i have trouble mounting my primary linux partition hda2. what should i write in fstab to be able to mount it?
[07:47] <Seveas> redlounge, on shutdown all initscripts are called to shut them down properly...
[07:47] <Razor-X> BRKN_LDR: that's not just XChat, that's quite a few other clients
[07:47] <redlounge> Seveas, unless i remove them from my rc6.d...
[07:47] <Hajuu> hey um... that streamripper program doesn't work with ASX's either.
[07:48] <Seveas> redlounge, that's why you shouldn't do that...
[07:48] <Hajuu> Anyone know a program that can record streaming audio from ASX's?
[07:48] <redlounge> Seveas, ;) ok. i just wanted to know what can happen to apache if i do so
[07:48] <Razor-X> Hajuu: you can always convert to ASX from another format
[07:49] <Hajuu> Huh?
[07:49] <Hajuu> Convert to asx?
[07:49] <Hajuu> I want to record this streaming audio... Not convert to ASX...
[07:49] <Razor-X> Hajuu: is there a difference?
[07:50] <Razor-X> if you record to another format, and then convert to ASX, what's the difference?
[07:50] <hybrid> Razor-X: converting loses quality
[07:50] <qt2> Hajuu, open up the .asx in a text editor, there should be a url in it, use it.
[07:50] <Hajuu> I don't want to convert to asx at all.. I don't care what its saved as.. The point is that I want to bloody save this STREAMING audio...
[07:51] <Hajuu> It's a continuous stream.. not a single file that can just be downloaded.
[07:51] <Razor-X> Hajuu: then, open up the stream, and record it using some other program
[07:51] <Hajuu> qt2:  I have the url... But it's streaming.. so I need something to record it with in real time.
[07:51] <Razor-X> Audacity has nice record support
[07:51] <Hajuu> Razor-X:  Back to my question.. "Anyone know of something that can record from an ASX stream" lol
[07:51] <Razor-X> simply hit record, and open up the stream, and remove the parts you don't need later on
[07:51] <CarlFK> Hajuu - mplayer -dumpstream
[07:51] <qt2> Hajuu, i realized that, but  the asx is just a holding format, it has another url inside it, that most likely, isnt asx.
[07:51] <Hajuu> audacity eh?
[07:52] <Hajuu> qt2:  Ofcourse it is.
[07:52] <Hajuu> The file on their server they are recording to is just an ASX
[07:52] <CarlFK> Hajuu - there is also something like streamrip or ripstream - but mplayer has worked for me
[07:52] <Hajuu> which then gets streamed out directly
[07:52] <chibifs> streamripper is best for it. :P
[07:52] <Hajuu> my mplayer is all broken.. so thats a no-go
[07:52] <CarlFK> Hajuu - url?
[07:53] <Hajuu> Streamripper is not for ASX.
[07:53] <Hajuu> url to what?
[07:53] <concept10> There is a lot of updates today
[07:53] <CarlFK> Hajuu - that you are trying to save
[07:53] <CarlFK> Hajuu - why not try to fix mplayer?  that seems like something you will do anyway
[07:54] <Hajuu> mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/triplej
[07:54] <Hajuu> Cause I don't like mplayer and never use it for anything. So it isn't worth the effort.
[07:54] <CarlFK> heh - it is now ;)
[07:54] <Hajuu> Not for one purpose.
[07:55] <nJess> isn't xine an mplayer gui
[07:55] <nJess> ?
[07:55] <citrus> no totaly different program
[07:55] <Hajuu> No xine is a sound engine like mplayer.
[07:55] <Hajuu> xine-ui is it's gui.
[07:56] <Kyral> VLC...
[07:56] <Kyral> and anyone know how I would force a version of Totem?
[07:56] <catolh> Is there an application for opening *.rar files? and files packaged and divided into *.rar , *.r00 , *.r01 etc?
[07:56] <Hajuu> oh wow. Got my mplayer going.
[07:56] <Kyral> I swear, I cycle through Xine, Totem, and VLC on a daily basis :D
[07:56] <Kyral> catolh, its unrar
[07:56] <Seveas> Kyral, in synaptic select the package and use package -> force version (or lock version if you want to force the current)
[07:56] <Kyral> it will piece them together
[07:56] <dabaR> Kyral: man apt-get
[07:56] <hybrid> Kyral: apt-get -f install <pkg> i think
[07:57] <dabaR> that will tell you how to force a version.
[07:57] <Hajuu> so --dumpstream you say, CarlFK?
[07:57] <catolh> Kyral, unrar is included in ubuntu?
[07:57] <Crembo> Seveas Crembo, mount -t ntfs /dev/your_ntfs_drive /path/to/mountpoint -o umask=0000 <- Seveas, I understood most of it from typing "man mount" but - how do I create a mount point for it to use?
[07:57] <Kyral> Seveas, I uninstalled Synaptic over a month ago
[07:57] <chibifs> xineui Is rocking. :D
[07:57] <Seveas> catolh, apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[07:57] <Kyral> what Seveas said
[07:57] <catolh> nonfree?..eh?
[07:57] <Kyral> 'cept put a sudo on there
[07:57] <CarlFK> Crembo - mkdir (or md for short)
[07:57] <Seveas> Crembo, sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfsdrive
[07:57] <chibifs> nonfree version extracts rar 3 correctly.
[07:57] <Crembo> aaah. so simple.
[07:57] <CarlFK> Seveas - mnt?
[07:57] <Seveas> catolh, it costs no money but comes without source
[07:58] <regeya_> well, my reason for xine-ui is because I have no idea how to do vidix non-root and totem doesn't like to do anything as non-user...it's just easier imho to use xine, and I doubt anyone is going to use xine-ui as a backdoor for evil hackery
[07:58] <catolh> Seveas,  ah.. and it extracts divided rar files?
[07:58] <Kyral> When the heck is T-Bird gonna enter Breezy so I can Apt-Source it?
[07:58] <Kyral> I mean T-Bird 1.0.6 :P
[07:58] <Seveas> catolh, correct
[07:58] <MartenH> Finally! A place where I might find some answers... hopefully
[07:58] <Seveas> hi MartenH :)
[07:59] <CarlFK> Hajuu - afer a few min I have a 700k file from mplayer -dumpstream mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/triplej
[07:59] <Kyral> anyone else finding breakage with Totem 1.1.3?
[07:59] <Kyral> as in it not using totem-xine?
[07:59] <catolh> Seveas, ok, thanks.. :)
[07:59] <bluefoxicy> bading ding ding ding ding ding ding ding bom bom bom bom bom ding ding ding ding bom bom ding ding ding ding
[07:59] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, wazzup?
[07:59] <Seveas> :)
[07:59] <catolh> damn crazy frog.. :p
[07:59] <Seveas> argh
[07:59] <Hajuu> so um.. if I do something like "mplayer mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/triplej -dumpfile /mnt/storage/rec/recordin1.mp3 -dumpaudio" will that rip it direct to mp3 for me?
[07:59] <Seveas>  /kill bluefoxicy
[07:59] <Seveas> :)
[08:00] <CarlFK> Hajuu - no.  I think you want mencoder for that
[08:00] <MartenH> hi Seveas
[08:00] <paulproteus> Hajuu: If the MMS thing streams an MP3, then it will dump an MP3.
[08:00] <paulproteus> It will dump bit-for-bit what the MMS thing serves you.  That's probably going to Windows Media Audio.
[08:00] <bluefoxicy> hi Seveas
[08:00] <Hajuu> mencoder.. yeah someone else directed me to that.. how do I use that to encode the stream as its being ripped?
[08:00] <CarlFK> when I play the file: Selected audio codec: [ffwmav2]  afm:ffmpeg (DivX audio v2 (FFmpeg))
[08:00] <bluefoxicy> catolh:  the vid rules and he's doing a Popcorn mix :)
[08:01] <bluefoxicy> Popcorn should be the official song of Ubuntu XD
[08:01] <paulproteus> Keep in mind that encoding to MP3 is a lossy process.
[08:01] <paulproteus> If I were you, I'd dump it in its native format and just play it in that format.
[08:01] <MartenH> I'm having a whole lot of trouble with getting WPA working, tried almost everything I've found on the net but either my configuration differs or I'm just to new to Linux to get things right :/
[08:01] <paulproteus> Otherwise, you're throwing away precious audio quality, Hajuu.
[08:01] <hybrid> Razor-X: do you have any flacs i could check out?
[08:01] <CarlFK> Hajuu - if you want to encode it as something else, you may want to try transcode - I like that better than mencoder for conversions
[08:01] <Seveas> MartenH, you've come to the right place, i'm the local WPA expert :)
[08:01] <patrickj> ello
[08:02] <CarlFK> Hajuu - I "think" either will work with the stream, but I don't know how
[08:02] <Hajuu> ah
[08:02] <Hajuu> um
[08:02] <Hajuu> ok
[08:02] <MartenH> Seveas: awsome! :) Mind if I PM to reduce the clutter?
[08:02] <Seveas> be my guest
[08:02] <paulproteus> Seveas: Wait!  Join #ubuntu-wpa
[08:02] <paulproteus> Discuss in there so I can watch, too, please.  I'm trying to learn WPA stuff.
[08:02] <CarlFK> what is the correct spelling of growisofs ?
[08:03] <Seveas> paulproteus, ok
[08:03] <typo> how can I make dpkg -l widen its columns?
[08:03] <paulproteus> typo: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l
[08:03] <patrickj> i just installed fbpanel but I dont know where the config files are.......
[08:03] <sig> is there any torrent clients in apt-get ?
[08:03] <CarlFK> dvd+rw-tools ;)
[08:03] <paulproteus> sig: apt-get install bittorrent
[08:03] <paulproteus> sig: apt-get install bittornado
[08:03] <paulproteus> apt-cache search bittorrent
[08:04] <Kyral> is Azureus in the Repos yet?
[08:04] <hybrid> yea
[08:04] <dweazle> mm .. xbase-clients is broken in breezy :(
[08:04] <hybrid> but java aint
[08:04] <typo> paulproteus: thanks
[08:04] <Kyral> minor thing to install it
[08:04] <hybrid> yea on x86 psst
[08:04] <Kyral> seriously, we should put a script into the repos that installs Java :D
[08:05] <hybrid> lol
[08:05] <paulproteus> hybrid: PPC?
[08:05] <hybrid> Kyral: sun get pissed
[08:05] <hybrid> paulproteus: yes
[08:05] <Kyral> bah Sun
[08:05] <hybrid> lol
[08:05] <paulproteus> paulproteus: Install the IBM JDK as per the Ubuntu PPC FAQ.
[08:05] <Kyral> Bah MS
[08:05] <Kyral> BAH ALL!
[08:05] <paulproteus> hybrid: Installation scripts are legit.  Distributing Sun's Java JVM is not legit.
[08:05] <sig> whats the command to start bittornado ?
[08:05] <patrickj> n/m
[08:05] <BRKN_LDR> should i be able to compile a source package for a module as long as i have the headers for my kernel?
[08:06] <hybrid> sig: bittorrnadodownload
[08:06] <sig> hmm
[08:06] <sig> doesn't work here
[08:06] <paulproteus> sig: bittorando<TAB>
[08:06] <mpathy> ogra: Hey ;) Where is the ubuntu-artwork page?!
[08:06] <hybrid> sig: if that dont work hit tab twice
[08:06] <sig> doesn't work
[08:06] <ogra> mpathy, the wiki page ?
[08:06] <paulproteus> bittornado - I made a typo.
[08:06] <mpathy> ogra: no the channel
[08:07] <sig> bittornado is already the newest version.
[08:07] <hybrid> well if you typed bittornado the hit tab twice and didnt get a nice list bittornado isnt installed (properly)
[08:07] <ogra> mpathy, #ubuntu-artwork ?
[08:07] <mpathy> ogra: what the ... i must be stupid :)
[08:07] <catolh> hm, i cant get my Gnome bittorrent to work, it just tries to connect to peers
[08:08] <ogra> mpathy, you are in there as far as i can see :)
[08:08] <catolh> i used azureus and it worked fine, but i dont want excessive applications.. and azureus looks fugly..
[08:08] <mpathy> ogra: yes, NOW I am in there :)
[08:08] <catolh> Does it need configuring?
[08:08] <qt2> Kyral, a quick search reveals the official client, bittornado, azureus and qtorrent as being in the repos
[08:08] <ogra> lol
[08:09] <catolh> Has anyone gotten gnome bittorrent to work?
[08:09] <vintendo> dawgs i got a major problem. i cant get totem or any other media player to work
[08:09] <BRKN_LDR> it works fine catolh
[08:10] <BRKN_LDR> but it has limited functionality
[08:10] <catolh> BRKN_LDR, how do i configure it?
[08:10] <kapputu> cannot access xdrive using ubuntu
[08:10] <kapputu> cannot upgrade using ubuntu
[08:10] <BRKN_LDR> catolh i never had to configure anything on it.  you just open a .tor or whatever the extension is, and it pops up and starts downloading.
[08:10] <ed1t> vintendo, you need to install he plugins to play music
[08:10] <BRKN_LDR> i don't really understand bit torrent so i don't use it.  it doesn't have a familiar file sharing app feel
[08:10] <NoHope> hey, Is there a rc.local file? Where can I put my scripts?
[08:10] <ed1t> vinboy, gstreamer0.8
[08:10] <X3N> what happens if you put the breezy repisitories into my hoary one
[08:10] <BRKN_LDR> NoHope slackware eh?
[08:11] <gimme3d> hello everybody!
[08:11] <NoHope> BRKN_LDR, I'm from Slackware.
[08:11] <sean13_> X3N: you would upgrade to brezzy once you done that
[08:11] <vintendo> ed1t were i get dat at
[08:11] <NoHope> BRKN_LDR, I can't understand SysV...
[08:11] <Brunellus> I'm setting up a dualboot Ubuntu/XP machine
[08:11] <catolh> BRKN_LDR, well.. it doesnt work with me.. I start it, pop in a torrent and it only tries to connect to peers.. them timing out on 30 seconds.. with azureus it works fine, but it looks fugly and i dont want an excessive amount of torrent managers
[08:11] <X3N> as i thought, has anyone tried it, is it stable enough yet ?
[08:11] <Razor-X> Brunellus: any problems yet?
[08:11] <morgul_> Hello
[08:11] <Brunellus> which partition do I set as bootable?
[08:11] <Hajuu> mkay.. got it ripping it to mp3 now using mplayer... But can't I listen to it while its ripping?
[08:11] <patrickj> back but I need some help because It says when I try to copy a file, that it dont exist
[08:11] <patrickj> wheres the flood room?
[08:12] <Razor-X> Brunellus: Ubuntu's partition
[08:12] <catolh> BRKN_LDR, nevermind.. heh, it started.. :p
[08:12] <qt2> BRKN_LDR, you might be interested in azureus.
[08:12] <v1ru5> hey, any ideas why i am getting wrong md5 sums for the ubuntu 5.04's iso's?
[08:12] <Brunellus> Razor-X:  if I set / as bootable, I should still be able to boot the XP partition right?
[08:12] <soultaker> hello to all
[08:12] <Razor-X> Brunellus: as long as the entry is in GRUB's menu.list, yeah
[08:12] <X3N> v1ru5, have you tried different mirrors ?
[08:12] <NoHope> BRKN_LDR, do you know some doc about it?
[08:12] <ed1t> vintendo, open up synaptic and search for gstreamer
[08:12] <Razor-X> and, Ubuntu should detect that at default
[08:12] <gimme3d> i have got a problem. I am new to linux and it took me 2 days to get my screen working with refresh>60hz, but now it works (woohoo!). But ubuntu is still using the mesa drivers, so ive got no 3d
[08:12] <patrickj> ok im going to paste my problem in flood
[08:12] <vintendo> ok thanks
[08:12] <Razor-X> Ubuntu can partition it for you as well
[08:12] <floo> can anyone help with my hp digital copier printer?
[08:12] <patrickj> can anyone help me?
[08:12] <Hajuu> CarlFK:  You still around?
[08:12] <soultaker> one question about the screen saver?
[08:12] <v1ru5> X3N: know any legit mirrors?
[08:13] <gimme3d> anyone who would help me for a minute?
[08:13] <Brunellus> Razor-X:  when does the installer generate the GRUB menu.list
[08:13] <floo> It's ausb printer and it refuses to print
[08:13] <Razor-X> Brunellus: after the system is installed
[08:13] <qt2> catolh, why not use the official client, or bittornado?
[08:13] <Razor-X> I know my partitions, but Ubuntu's installer did it all for me regardless
[08:13] <v1ru5> gimme3d: just tell us your problem
[08:13] <ed1t> v1ru5, u trying to download the ubuntu .iso image?
[08:13] <blmartin777> can I install the files (source) for my kernel
[08:13] <gimme3d> allright, thx :)
[08:13] <X3N> v1ru5, select a different one from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[08:13] <Razor-X> I just gave it a chunk of free space, simple azzat
[08:13] <v1ru5> ed1t: yep
[08:14] <Razor-X> of course, if you know you're way around partitioning, you can do more ;)
[08:14] <patrickj> can anyone help me?
[08:14] <Brunellus> OK.  because there are 2 xp partitions on here
[08:14] <v1ru5> gimme3d: what do you need help with? the driver install?
[08:14] <qt2> Hajuu, you could probably pop up another stream of it in another app?
[08:14] <NoHope> patrickj, just make the question.
[08:14] <Razor-X> Brunellus: they'll probably both be added to menu.list
[08:14] <Razor-X> if not, just read the docs
[08:14] <catolh> qt2, well.. gnome-bittorrent works for me know, although slow and it doesnt show how many seeds or peers.
[08:14] <patrickj> I did
[08:14] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more
[08:14] <Brunellus> Thanks.
[08:14] <NoHope> patrickj, what's the problem?
[08:14] <gimme3d> i downloaded the latest drvier for xorg, made an deb from the rpm, instlaled mey kernel headers and so on, but trying to overwrite mesa by --force wont work properly?
[08:14] <Razor-X> and, even stil, you can rescue the old bootloader and put that in Ubuntu as well, if it comes to that
[08:14] <v1ru5> X3N: i really don't have time for downloads, every cd takes 3,5 hours to complete
[08:14] <ed1t> v1ru5, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[08:14] <patrickj> okay i pasted what I was supposed to do in flood and it gives me an error, saying that the config file dont exists !!!!
[08:14] <ed1t> v1ru5, i download from there, it always works for me
[08:14] <v1ru5> X3N: so i rather use a legit d/l
[08:15] <Brunellus> Been a while since I did a from-disk install.  Just playing with windows makes me miss apt
[08:15] <v1ru5> ed1t: ok thanks
[08:15] <NoHope> flood?
[08:15] <qt2> catolh, heh, i mich prefer bittornado, much more configurable and informatice.
[08:15] <Hajuu> qt2:  Seems wasteful to stream the same stream twice to the same place.
[08:15] <X3N> v1ru5, those are legit
[08:15] <morgul_> how can I install lmctl_0.3.2_i386.deb ?
[08:15] <gimme3d> it overwrites without error, but there is no change in using the mesadrivers
[08:15] <NoHope> patrickj, flood?
[08:15] <X3N> they're all official ubuntu mirrors
[08:15] <qt2> *informative
[08:15] <Brunellus> morgul_:  sudo dpkg PATH-TO-PACKAGE-HERE
[08:15] <ed1t> morgul_, dpkg -i lmctl_0.3.2_i386.deb
[08:15] <v1ru5> X3N: how come i have downloaded from those two times and neither has worked
[08:15] <Brunellus> er
[08:15] <Brunellus> yeah
[08:15] <Brunellus> forgot the -i
[08:15] <Brunellus> drat.
[08:15] <morgul_> thx guys
[08:15] <Brunellus> morgul_
[08:15] <X3N> v1ru5, from the same source each time ?
[08:15] <qt2> Hajuu, well, i just suggested it as a quick fix. ;)
[08:15] <Hajuu> hehe
[08:15] <Brunellus> be aware that that won't resolve any dependencies!
[08:16] <v1ru5> X3N: this last 3 hrs i got from 4 diff.
[08:16] <Brunellus> ok.  partitioning time gents.
[08:16] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more ? the name is lightning
[08:16] <catolh> qt2, uhm.. just did a sudo apt-get install bittornado.. but uhm.. silly question.. how do i start it? :D
[08:16] <doddo> what is the deafult linux partition to be named in fstab? ext3 or?
[08:16] <X3N> v1ru5, sounds like there might be something wrong with your download manager or your connection, maybe try shipit.ubuntu.org and get some sent to you
[08:16] <Brunellus> catolh:  uh, type 'bittornado' in the console?
[08:16] <catolh> didnt work.. :p
[08:16] <Discipulus> catolh, from a prompt type bittornado
[08:16] <Razor-X> qt2: hmmm, can I ask you some questions about bittornado?
[08:16] <catolh> ah
[08:16] <gimme3d> v1ru5: i installed everything properly, but there are still the mesadrivers active
[08:17] <Discipulus> catolh, type 'bit' and hit tab 2 times
[08:17] <vintendo> hey ed1t thank you so much
[08:17] <ed1t> doddo, yes, ubuntu has uses ext3 in installation by default
[08:17] <ed1t> vintendo, np
[08:17] <Razor-X> (I use btdownloadcurses.bittorrent)
[08:17] <qt2> catolh, err, it doesnt run unless it's got a torrent downloading/seeding, so go find a torrent. ;)
[08:17] <qt2> Razor-X, sure, pm me.
[08:17] <pierro> hi. i upgraded ubuntuyesterday. since this upgrade, firefox crashes everytime i try to close a tab
[08:17] <catolh> qt2, ah... weird.. :p but thanks
[08:18] <morgul_> hmm problem lol
[08:18] <doddo> ed1t: but when i try to mount my partition i get the following message: Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2
[08:18] <ed1t> doddo, why u trying to mount your partition? it should already be mounted
[08:18] <qt2> catolh, how's that wierd? it's efficent.
[08:18] <patrickj> back
[08:19] <patrickj> how can I copy stuff from eterm?
[08:19] <doddo> ed1t: yeah, but I made a new partiton from some unpartitioned space i had on my hard drive.
[08:19] <morgul_> are *.deb.py working with hoary?
[08:19] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more ? the name is lightning any one??
[08:19] <HappyFool> try selecting it with the mouse (using the left mouse button)
[08:19] <ed1t> doddo, u made a ext3 partition?
[08:19] <HappyFool> and then pasting elsewhere with the middle mouse button
[08:19] <ed1t> doddo, mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mount/point
[08:20] <patrickj> ugh lol no it wotn lemme copy through eterm
[08:20] <dm1tri> i am problem in mldonkey runing in ubuntu
[08:20] <gimme3d> when i do: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i fglrx-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_i386.deb, where the heck does it put the ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run ???
[08:20] <ed1t> pierro, wat version of FF u have?
[08:20] <doddo> ed1t: yes. ill try that..'
[08:20] <floo> come on guys!  is nobody going to help me with my printing problem
[08:21] <patrickj> dir
[08:21] <morgul_> ok ssorry my mistake
[08:21] <patrickj> whoops
[08:21] <hybrid> floo: whats up?
[08:21] <patrickj> wheres the menu generator?
[08:21] <floo> I can't print through usb
[08:21] <patrickj> also if Im not using gnome, if im using openbox and fbpanel, How can I get stuff to go on startup?
[08:21] <ed1t> pierro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686
[08:21] <pierro> ed1t,  the package name ?
[08:21] <pierro> ok thanks.
[08:21] <Yann2> isn't there any way to center text or to align some text on the ubuntu wiki? :(
[08:21] <doddo> ed1t:  i still get the sane eroor message.
[08:21] <doddo> the same
[08:22] <hybrid> floo: is it being recongnized?
[08:22] <gimme3d> guys, when i do: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i fglrx-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_i386.deb, where the heck does it put the ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run ???
[08:22] <kuckuck> hi
[08:22] <floo> hybrid yes
[08:22] <dm1tri> i am problem in mldonkey runing in ubuntu
[08:22] <floo> everything is there
[08:22] <patrickj> also if Im not using gnome, if im using openbox and fbpanel, How can I get stuff to go on startup?
[08:22] <dm1tri> not connect in network fasttrack
[08:22] <kuckuck> how shuld the output look if I make a bad block check -> mkfs.vfat -cv
[08:22] <dm1tri> in the configuration this true, but does not connect, exists some plugin to be installed?
[08:22] <hybrid> floo: it just wont print
[08:23] <LiberalTugboat> hey
[08:23] <ed1t> doddo, did u make a directory for mount point?
[08:23] <floo> it's detected on usb asb hp digital copier 410,it's using the ijs gimp print driver
[08:23] <LiberalTugboat> any one know how stable breezy is?
[08:23] <floo> it just WON'T print
[08:23] <hybrid> LiberalTugboat: stable? breezy? ha!
[08:23] <floo> all of the modules are in place
[08:23] <hybrid> floo: tried more then one prgram
[08:24] <floo> udb core oncd uncd usblp
[08:24] <patrickj> how can I get stuff to go on strartup when im not using Gnome?
[08:24] <floo> hybrid??
[08:24] <doddo> ed1t: yes i did but now i think i figured it out, need too reboot thoug =) thank you.
[08:24] <LiberalTugboat> ok let me restate that... how broken is breezy?
[08:24] <patrickj> Can Anyone help me?
[08:25] <blkdomini> ciao raga
[08:25] <Seveas> LiberalTugboat, X is dead
[08:25] <blkdomini> hi all
[08:25] <LiberalTugboat> ok
[08:25] <floo> hybrid do you mean another distro?
[08:25] <LiberalTugboat> still going though the modularization
[08:25] <floo> if so yes, I've tried Mandrake and Fedora.  Same [roblem.
[08:25] <hybrid> floo: no another program. like try print a gimp image then try from fire etc
[08:25] <blkdomini> anyone know a simple dc client's for ubuntu?
[08:26] <patrickj> Can Anyone help me?
[08:26] <LiberalTugboat> I used to follow all of the mailing lists... I just dont have the time to go through 100+ emails a day
[08:26] <floo> yes tried that, printer is default printer but it just wn't print
[08:26] <ed1t> patrickj, you will have to manually add it
[08:26] <ed1t> i guess
[08:26] <floo> also tried the same with openoffice.
[08:26] <Seveas> LiberalTugboat, indeed, still the modularization :)
[08:26] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more ? the name is lightning any one?? can tell how restore i just run synaptics and resinstall i wont display it
[08:27] <patrickj> what file?!
[08:27] <patrickj> lol
[08:27] <patrickj> I need to know How to add it
[08:27] <ed1t> patrickj, get 'smeg' package which will allow you to change gnome menus
[08:27] <floo> it's like the data is getting blocked halfway.
[08:27] <LiberalTugboat> is anyone else having problems with firefox stability in hoary?
[08:27] <patrickj> ugh
[08:27] <patrickj> im not using gnome
[08:27] <patrickj> im in openbox with fbpanel!
[08:27] <hybrid> floo: have _all_ the drivers for it
[08:27] <patrickj> brb...
[08:27] <ed1t> patrickj, then why do u need to add stuff in gnome?
[08:27] <pierro> LiberalTugboat,  iup
[08:27] <LiberalTugboat> I am having it close on me quite a bit lately
[08:27] <Seveas> patrickj, then read the openbox docs :)
[08:28] <floo> yes, hpijs and hplip
[08:28] <pierro> LiberalTugboat,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686
[08:28] <ed1t> pierro, did that link help you?
[08:28] <LiberalTugboat> i cant even go to newsforge any more
[08:28] <Seveas> LiberalTugboat, the latest security update is broken
[08:28] <Belutz> Seveas: how do i make firestarter start everytime i log in to ubuntu?
[08:28] <pierro> ed1t,  69% of upgrading :p
[08:28] <floo> but it seems to be using the gimpdriver and ther's no way i can change it anything else.
[08:28] <LiberalTugboat> thats nice to know
[08:28] <ed1t> pierro, heh
[08:28] <Seveas> LiberalTugboat, you should downgrade using the debs on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/ or wait until monday :)
[08:29] <floo> the annoing thing is it works absolutelyfnineon windows
[08:29] <LiberalTugboat> the one thing I dont like about ubuntu is all this backporting of security updates
[08:29] <jasoncohen> tritium, well, i wasn't able to resize my / ext3 partition last night in the live cd. gparted said that the device was being used (device i guess was HD) because the only mounted partition was swap. what should i do?
[08:29] <Seveas> LiberalTugboat, the official versions have the exact same problem...
[08:29] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more ? the name is lightning any one?? can tell how restore i just run synaptics and resinstall i wont display it
[08:30] <ed1t> jasoncohen, trying to resize partitions?
[08:30] <LiberalTugboat> 1.06?
[08:30] <hybrid> Seveas: how do you downgrade? do you use apt?
[08:30] <jasoncohen> ed1t, yes
[08:31] <Seveas> hybrid, download the debs manually and run dpkg -i mozilla*.den
[08:31] <Seveas> hybrid, download the debs manually and run dpkg -i mozilla*.deb
[08:31] <jasoncohen> ed1t, i wanted to shrink my / ext3 partition so i could make a larger swap. currently my swap is too small for hibernate
[08:31] <levander> Can I still not access Gracenote's cddb with grip?
[08:31] <hybrid> Seveas: ah
[08:31] <hybrid> Seveas: gotta do it twice? :-p
[08:31] <jasoncohen> Seveas, you don't have to do that
[08:31] <jasoncohen> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox=1.0.2-0ubuntu5 mozilla-firefox-gnome-support=1.0.2-0ubuntu5
[08:31] <hybrid> i was told you have to remove pkgs then reinstall
[08:31] <Seveas> jasoncohen, the official repos do no longer have the -ubuntu5.2 security update
[08:31] <jasoncohen> you can downgrade by specifying the version you want
[08:31] <Seveas> and the ubuntu5 version is old
[08:32] <Seveas> jasoncohen, the official repos do no longer have the -ubuntu5.3 security update
[08:32] <jasoncohen> Seveas, yeah- but does hybrid still have it in his apt cache?
[08:32] <Seveas> jasoncohen, not likely :)
[08:32] <HappyFool> !firefox-problems
[08:32] <ubotu> firefox-problems is probably http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-July/000163.html
[08:32] <jasoncohen> otherwise he won't be able to. he can't download it because it's not on the servers
[08:32] <rjek> Afternoon.
[08:32] <soultaker> can anyone tell me how send back the options on a screen saver i wont display any more ? the name is lightning any one?? can tell how restore i just run synaptics and resinstall i wont display it
[08:32] <HappyFool> maybe uninstall extensions, if you can
[08:32] <Seveas> jasoncohen, I just gave a url to the ubuntu5.3 debs
[08:33] <jasoncohen> Seveas, ah, i didn't see that- my mitake
[08:33] <jasoncohen> *mistake
[08:33] <raven3x7> im decided to get epiphany until this is fixed
[08:33] <patrickj> dir
[08:33] <patrickj> whoops
[08:33] <patrickj> lol
[08:33] <patrickj> sorry
[08:33] <rjek> Anybody know if there's any way of specifying which order things should be mounted in in /etc/fstab?  I have a bind mount, and although it's listed after mounting my home directory (via NFS) it still ends up mounting afterwards.  Ideas?
[08:33] <jasoncohen> Seveas, why didn't the security team leave 5.3 in place and ask users to just install it off the security mirrors?
[08:33] <Seveas> jasoncohen, ENOIDEA
[08:33] <hybrid> patrickj: i love that! i have come in here plenty of times and did ls
[08:34] <jasoncohen> so, anyone know why gparted wouldn't allow me to resize an ext3 partitoin (/) that's unmounted in the hoary live cd if only swap is being used
[08:34] <sirkka> ?
[08:34] <djp> which is the best version of a package to use out of sdl, svga, or x? the graphic card i have is an nvidia geforce2 which uses the free nv driver.
[08:34] <sirkka> hi
[08:34] <jasoncohen> how should i resize it, from the hoary installer disk?
[08:35] <hybrid> jasoncohen: livecd runs in ram
[08:35] <rchoy> jason is the swap on the same parition?
[08:35] <raven3x7> HappyFool thats not the only prob with the update
[08:35] <jasoncohen> hybrid, so, / was unmounted
[08:35] <patrickj> oh brb again
[08:35] <jasoncohen> rchoy, they are seperate partitions- might be the same logical partition though
[08:35] <rchoy> jasoncohen, that would be a problem ,no?
[08:36] <robert_pectol> Belutz:   you can use update-rc.d to configure which services you want to start/stop at bootup/shutdown... something similar to, "update-rc.d firestarter start 20  2 3 4 5 . stop 20  0 1 2 6 ." would set firestarter to auomatically run in levels 2, 3, 4, and 5.
[08:36] <jasoncohen> rchoy, http://pastebin.ca/18400 . i'm trying to resize /dev/hda4
[08:36] <jasoncohen> rchoy, only swap was mounted- and i don't think they are on the same logical partition. how do i check?
[08:37] <jasoncohen> no- they're on seperate logical partitions
[08:37] <rchoy> jasoncohen, fdisk
[08:37] <rchoy> fdisk /dev/hda
[08:37] <rchoy> then type p
[08:38] <rchoy> to print part table
[08:38] <jasoncohen> isn't that the same as fdisk -l /dev/hda?
[08:38] <jasoncohen> it shows what i pasted - http://pastebin.ca/18400
[08:39] <rchoy> fdisk is a little more informative
[08:39] <rchoy> p
[08:40] <jasoncohen> so, what should i do to resize / ?
[08:40] <jasoncohen> /dev/hda4
[08:40] <Belutz> robert_pectol: what's the number 20 means?
[08:40] <robert_pectol> Belutz:   priority... I think!
[08:40] <Belutz> robert_pectol: ok, thx :)
[08:40] <robert_pectol> np
[08:41] <jasoncohen> Belutz, it's priority- when the process starts in the boot process
[08:41] <rchoy> jasoncohen, try doing fdisk /dev/hda and hit p
[08:41] <jasoncohen> Belutz, lower is higher priority so 10 would start before 20
[08:41] <rchoy> you get more info than fdisk -l
[08:41] <jasoncohen> rchoy, i did, it shows the same info
[08:41] <Belutz> jasoncohen: ok... i get it... thx :)
[08:41] <jasoncohen> rchoy, http://pastebin.ca/18401
[08:42] <Belutz> jasoncohen: i just removed apache2 from synaptic, but there is still /etc/init.d/apache2 file... do i have to remove it manually?
[08:42] <jasoncohen> Belutz, that's because when you remove a package it doesn't get rid of configuration files
[08:43] <jasoncohen> or other system files related to the app that are small like init scripts
[08:43] <jasoncohen> there's no harm in keeping the script there since it won't start- there's nothing to start
[08:43] <jasoncohen> sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 would have purged all config files
[08:43] <rchoy> jasoncohen, how does parted complain?  could it be you don't have enough disk space to do the resize...
[08:43] <Belutz> jasoncohen: ok... thx :)
[08:43] <jasoncohen> rchoy, i'm just shrinking the partition. how can i not have enough disk space to shrink?
[08:44] <rchoy> if there is 100 bytes of data and the partition is 200 bytes and you resize it to 50 bytes
[08:44] <jasoncohen> Belutz, it's not a problem. if you want, sudo apt-get install rcconf, and run sudo rcconf and uncheck apache2
[08:44] <jasoncohen> that way, if it's installed again it won't start on boot
[08:45] <Belutz> ic... ok
[08:45] <djp> which is the best version of a package to use out of sdl, svga, or x? the graphic card i have is an nvidia geforce2 which uses the free nv driver.
[08:45] <jasoncohen> what exactly are you asking djp? what driver to use?
[08:45] <jasoncohen> use nv or if you want 3d acceleration the nvidia driver
[08:46] <HappyFool> you can also try 'sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove'
[08:46] <jasoncohen> yup, or if you want something graphical, install bum. it'll also give you a description of the services
[08:47] <djp> jasoncohen: sorry to be so vague. i have the option of downloading 3 versions of a program. one is specific for x, one for sdl and one for svga. i wondered what one i should use. i suppose i want to know what the difference is between sdl, x and svga...
[08:47] <jasoncohen> what program?
[08:47] <djp> jasoncohen: gnuboy
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> djp:  Use the SDL version.
[08:48] <djp> jasoncohen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gnuboy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> SDL is like a cross-platform directX, kind of.
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> simple directmedia layer :P
[08:48] <jasoncohen> X is linux's xfree server that is used to display all the graphics you see on your screen. SVGA Is super vga resolution= 800X600 pixels and SDL is  Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library designed to provide low level access to audio, keyboard, mouse, joystick, 3D hardware via OpenGL, and 2D video framebuffer.
[08:48] <jasoncohen> the 3 are completely different
[08:48] <bluefoxicy> SDL is fairly well designed.
[08:49] <HappyFool> SDL should run in X; i would guess the svga version won't
[08:49] <jasoncohen> yeah, use SDL
[08:49] <djp> jasoncohen: that's what i was looking for... thanx! so would you agree with bluefoxicy, that sdl is the better of the 3? thnaks for your advice bluefoxicy by the way
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> I tend to install SDL stuff because A) I don't like plain old X methods; B) SVGA requires libsvga which I don't like because it needs a kernel helper module; C) If everything used SDL there'd be a common library ;)
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> besides
[08:50] <djp> oops, thanks jasoncohen, answered before i could ask! ;)
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> if the X and SVGA branches aren't used much the author might drop them in favor of SDL
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> meaning less code to maintain
[08:50] <bluefoxicy> i.e. less bugs, faster development
[08:51] <jasoncohen> will breey be able to do an upgrade from an install CD?  It seems like the best method if you want to alter the partition sizes or if you are on dialup
[08:51] <bluefoxicy> someone should write a Linux developers FAQ
[08:51] <djp> thanks bluefoxicy
[08:51] <HappyFool> jasoncohen: warty could be upgraded to hoary via CD, so I presume so
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> and answer a question about DirectX by pointing out SDL, == instant Linux/Windows/AppleOSX compatibility
[08:52] <jasoncohen> HappyFool, ok
[08:52] <DOonz> hey guys kinda buggered up my fstab is there a way i can go back to the back up file and restore it?
[08:52] <jasoncohen> if i want to resize my root partition, should i just do it with the hoary installer partition tool?
[08:53] <signius> Does anyone use a orinoco based wireless card in RFMON mode at all
[08:53] <signius> i have the kernal patched and working and it works perfect in kismet
[08:53] <jasoncohen> DOonz, did you make a backup?
[08:53] <DOonz> yeah
[08:53] <DOonz> but i cant boot up
[08:53] <Brunellus> woohoo, it dualboots
[08:53] <DOonz> im using the live cd atm
[08:53] <ed1t> jasoncohen, yea but wont it delete the stuff in your / ?
[08:53] <signius> yet when i try and use other wireless utile that require RFMON it fails
[08:53] <Brunellus> but now I can't get it to find my wlan card
[08:54] <jasoncohen> ed1t, you can resize ext3 without removing data
[08:54] <jasoncohen> why can't you in the partitioner?
[08:54] <ed1t> jasoncohen, i didn know if you can shrink it in partitioner
[08:54] <signius> Brunellus what wireless network card do you have and what chipset is it based on ?
[08:55] <Brunellus> dlink dwl-g520
[08:55] <Brunellus> it *should* have auto-detected, apparently
[08:55] <jasoncohen> ed1t, ext3 supports being resized both smaller & larger w/o losing data so long as the partition is unmounted
[08:55] <Brunellus> let me run upstairs to see what lspci tells me
[08:55] <signius> oooh 2 things i dont like about that already A it DLINK and B it a 802.11g based card
[08:55] <ed1t> hmmm
[08:55] <DOonz> anyone got any idea?
[08:55] <signius> let me have a check on google about that card
[08:56] <HappyFool> jasoncohen: you seem to know more than most of us about this ;). is it possible there's data at the 'end' of the partition? can ext2/ext3 get fragmented like that?
[08:56] <jasoncohen> DOonz, mount the partition manually with a mount command, replace /etc/fstab with the backup and reboot
[08:56] <DOonz> thanx
[08:56] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you around? Are you running ERC?
[08:56] <ed1t> does anybody know if there is any software for making backup image like ghost for windows
[08:56] <ed1t> ?
[08:57] <Brunellus> it's an Atheros AR-512 chipset
[08:57] <ed1t> for linux...i dont think ghost 9.0 supports creating linux images
[08:57] <signius> ok
[08:58] <signius> i think DLINK have some linux drivers on there websote
[08:58] <signius> i am checking now
[08:58] <ed1t> norton ghos 2003 does that!!!
[08:58] <HappyFool> ed1t: how about 'partimage' in the ubuntu repositories?
[08:58] <apokryphos> is there any way to tell Ubuntu to specifically *never* use 75Hz?
[08:58] <ed1t> HappyFool, it does it?
[08:58] <HappyFool> ed1t: not that i've used it, but it looks possibly interesting
[08:58] <jasoncohen> DOonz, mount -t ext3 /dev/hdaX /myroot
[08:59] <ed1t> HappyFool, thx, ill try it and let u know if it works good
[08:59] <jasoncohen> DOonz, sudo fdisk -l to find out what partition you need to mount
[08:59] <signius> Brunellus ok it looks like you need to use the madwifi drivers
[08:59] <Hoxzer> how I can mount samba?
[08:59] <signius> i have used them ages ago and they did work
[08:59] <signius> but i cant remember what i did to get them working youll have to do a bit of reading
[08:59] <jasoncohen> Brunellus, you're in luck, the madwifi drivers are included in hoary in linux-restricted-modules
[08:59] <demirg> hi everyone, why do i get an error message like: "Segmentation fault" when I try to run xmms
[08:59] <jasoncohen> Brunellus, modprobe ath_pci
[08:59] <signius> heres the link to the drivers and docs http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/
[09:00] <HappyFool> demirg: try changing xmms's output to esd
[09:00] <jasoncohen> signius, does he want just WEP?
[09:00] <jasoncohen> or does he need WPA/AES?
[09:00] <HappyFool> demirg: it's under properties/settings somewhere
[09:00] <signius> jasoncohen I dont know
[09:00] <Brunellus> back in a second.
[09:00] <jasoncohen> DOonz, did that work?
[09:00] <HappyFool> Hoxzer: have you looked at this page?
[09:00] <HappyFool> !samba
[09:00] <ubotu> methinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[09:01] <demirg> HappyFool, i cannot open xmms :)
[09:01] <DOonz> all the files are read only
[09:01] <HappyFool> demirg: doh. the esd thing is my standard response, sorry ;)
[09:01] <jasoncohen> DOonz, did it mount read-only or do you need to be root?
[09:01] <demirg> HappyFool, no problem :)
[09:02] <DOonz> it mounted read only
[09:02] <jasoncohen> DOonz, sudo cp /etc/fstab.backup /etc/fstab for example
[09:02] <demirg> HappyFool, besides it was allready changed to esd
[09:02] <ed1t> HappyFool, it looks like it will do the job if u run it from live CD
[09:02] <jasoncohen> DOonz, or sudo -s and then try
[09:02] <Kyral> you know you use the command line too much when you try to use tab complete to type /etc/fstab on XChat
[09:02] <ValheruLord> how can i learn which bootloader is installed
[09:02] <HappyFool> heh
[09:02] <jasoncohen> DOonz, what does "mount" show for /myroot?
[09:02] <kamstrumental> Does anybody recommend an MP3 player over Music Player in Ubuntu? Music Player says it does not have the plug in to play mp3's.
[09:02] <Kyral> Beep
[09:02] <tommy> how do i get ventrilo to autostart as deamon?
[09:02] <signius> Has anyone here setup Evolution with and exchange 2003 server ?
[09:03] <HappyFool> kamstrumental: you can get plugins for mp3
[09:03] <Belial> hi someon here who can halp a noob ??
[09:03] <HappyFool> kamstrumental: read this page:
[09:03] <HappyFool> !restrictedformats
[09:03] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:03] <jasoncohen> DOonz, umount /myroot
[09:03] <DOonz> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/tmp
[09:03] <Pianist> hy
[09:03] <jasoncohen> Doomgaze, mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/tmp rw,user
[09:03] <Belial> does someone speaks german ???
[09:03] <demirg> hi everyone, why do i get an error message like: "Segmentation fault" when I try to run xmms
[09:03] <Pianist> #ubuntu-de
[09:03] <Belial> thx
[09:03] <Pianist> ich m
[09:04] <kamstrumental> HappyFool: Thanks!
[09:04] <Pianist> ich mein ich sprexh auch aber das ist der bessere channel
[09:04] <Pianist> ;=
[09:04] <Pianist> ;)
[09:04] <Belial> lol
[09:04] <Brunellus> no joy
[09:04] <jasoncohen> DOonz,  mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/tmp rw,user
[09:04] <Belial> does someone can help me
[09:04] <Brunellus> modprobe ath_pci does nothing
[09:04] <jasoncohen> DOonz, or mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[09:04] <Brunellus> no wlan0 no nothing
[09:04] <DOonz> k it saying it busy when i unmouint
[09:04] <Une-ga-dihi> anyone use movemail in thunderbird to check local mail?
[09:04] <Brunellus> do I have to bring eth0 down first
[09:04] <jasoncohen> DOonz, try mount -o remount/rw /dev/sda1
[09:05] <Pianist> Belial: what is your problem?
[09:05] <jasoncohen> DOonz, you're probably just in the directory. type "cd" first
[09:05] <DOonz> nope
[09:05] <jasoncohen> DOonz, but the remount should work even if it's being used
[09:05] <ed1t> Belial, #ubuntu-de
[09:05] <DOonz> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home/ubuntu/tmp busy
[09:05] <DOonz> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /home/ubuntu/tmp
[09:06] <jasoncohen> DOonz, what command did you use?
[09:06] <Brunellus> jasoncohen, what do I do now, if modprobe ath_pci isn't working?
[09:06] <DOonz> mount -o remount/rw /dev/sda1
[09:06] <ed1t> DOonz, first unmount and then mount again
[09:06] <DOonz> it wont let me unmount
[09:06] <jasoncohen> DOonz, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[09:06] <DOonz> says its busy
[09:06] <levander> I see on the wiki, that step 4 of enabling dma is to modify /etc/hdparm.conf so that dma is enabled at boot time for a particular device.  Since my machine is already running, can I enable dma without rebooting?
[09:06] <jasoncohen> DOonz, type cd
[09:06] <HappyFool> levander: yip
[09:06] <patrickj> hey, where that menu generation thing?
[09:07] <jasoncohen> Brunellus, sudo modprobe ath_pci
[09:07] <DOonz> nope still busy
[09:07] <Brunellus> jasoncohen: I did taht already
[09:07] <patrickj> n/m
[09:07] <jasoncohen> Doomgaze, fuser /dev/sda1
[09:07] <Brunellus> DOonz, sudo killall gnome-volume-manager
[09:07] <Pianist> anyone know the CentreCOM 3612TR from Allied Sys?
[09:07] <Brunellus> then unmount
[09:07] <HappyFool> levander: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/<whatever>
[09:07] <Pianist> or so?
[09:07] <jasoncohen> DOonz, fuser -m /dev/sda1
[09:07] <DOonz> nope still busy
[09:08] <levander> HappyFool: but I don't have to "enable" dma - like in the wiki it does in step 4 for when you reboot?
[09:08] <DOonz> root@ubuntu:~ # fuser -m /dev/sda1
[09:08] <DOonz> /dev/sda1:           26296
[09:08] <jasoncohen> DOonz, sudo kill 26296
[09:08] <HappyFool> levander: which wiki page is that?
[09:08] <levander> HappyFool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29
[09:08] <Brunellus> nobody with any clues as to the wlan issue?
[09:08] <DOonz> jk that worked
[09:08] <DOonz> its unmounted now
[09:08] <HappyFool> levander: if you are referring to /etc/hdparm.conf, that is just telling bootup to run hdparm, and with what parameters
[09:08] <levander> as an asside, no idea why they're using SSL on their wiki
[09:09] <HappyFool> levander: yeah, a bit annoying
[09:09] <Pianist> anyone know the CentreCOM 3612TR from Allied Sys?
[09:09] <jasoncohen> DOonz, mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/tmp rw
[09:09] <levander> HappyFool: ah! yeah, that makes sense, thanks
[09:09] <levander> HappyFool: and why does publicly information have to be secured? Makes no sense.
[09:09] <DOonz> nope didnt like that mount command
[09:09] <signius> Should i need to reboot ubuntu after configuring Evoluton to conenct to MS Exchange Server ?
[09:09] <HappyFool> levander: maybe it's just an easy solution to protect the password login
[09:09] <patrickj> can anyone in here help me install the menu gen?
[09:09] <jasoncohen> DOonz, mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/tmp -o rw
[09:09] <patrickj> demu
[09:09] <demirg> hi everyone, why do i get an error message like: "Segmentation fault" when I try to run xmms
[09:10] <patrickj> *denu
[09:10] <signius> i went through the setup and that seemed to work this time
[09:10] <HappyFool> levander: but it does seem to be overkill. and, for me anyway, the site seems slow
[09:10] <levander> HappyFool: the public can't edit that wiki? what they need a password for?
[09:10] <Brunellus> dmirg, run xmms in gdm.
[09:10] <Brunellus> er
[09:10] <Brunellus> gdb
[09:10] <Brunellus> my bad.
[09:10] <HappyFool> levander: no, you need to register. registration is open and free
[09:10] <levander> HappyFool: yeah, apparently you need to create an account and get a password on that wiki to edit, see what you're saying
[09:10] <signius> yet when i click on the icon for evololution after it looks like its going to to start i get the timer symbol and it just goes back to a destop and doesnt start the prgram
[09:10] <DOonz> still read only
[09:10] <jasoncohen> DOonz, did that work?
[09:10] <demirg> Brunellus, can you tell how to do it
[09:11] <Brunellus> open a terminal
[09:11] <jasoncohen> Doomgaze, and you used -o rw?
[09:11] <DOonz> yeah
[09:11] <Brunellus> execute gdb xmms
[09:11] <demirg> as root?
[09:11] <Brunellus> not sure if it matters
[09:11] <HappyFool> no
[09:11] <Brunellus> that'll at least give you the debug output
[09:11] <HappyFool> it'll give you a big mess
[09:11] <HappyFool> ;)
[09:12] <maestro> hej, nogle fra danmark ?
[09:12] <maestro> join #denmark
[09:12] <Brunellus> oK.  so now what.
[09:12] <demirg> Brunellus, ok i write it to terminal and hit enter
[09:12] <demirg> Brunellus, now it is like : (gdb) and waits
[09:13] <HappyFool> try 'run' now; i think that's how you get gdb to start the program
[09:13] <Brunellus> h'm
[09:13] <signius> WOO HOO it works
[09:13] <HappyFool> you can also launch gdb with a core dump
[09:13] <Brunellus> eh, signius?
[09:13] <signius> fabtastic
[09:13] <zerboxx> Any help with transfering documents to a palm via gnome-pilot?
[09:14] <patrickj> im going to paste something in flood, can anyone help me with my problem?
[09:14] <levander> well, hdparm.conf isn't telling the boot process to turn dma on on /dev/hda (my "main" hard disk).  But, it's on somehow.  Anybody know how ubuntu tells the boot process to turn dma on on a disk?
[09:14] <robotgeek> patrickj, go ahead and paste
[09:14] <patrickj> i just id
[09:14] <patrickj> I need help installing Denu!
[09:14] <MrMaDSeN> hi
[09:14] <Kyral> hmm
[09:14] <patrickj> I dont understand the installation instructions...
[09:14] <Puff-n-Stuff> morning all...would anyone happen to have some insight on how to get a microcolutions backpack cdrw working through usb on 5.04?
[09:14] <Kyral> I'm leaving for a week and a half on Wednesday
[09:14] <D1> grrr, where on earth is the pure-ftpd conf file in ubuntu?
[09:14] <MrMaDSeN> anyone using vnc on ubuntu in here?
[09:14] <HappyFool> patrickj: paste again, i think ;)
[09:15] <robotgeek> yup
[09:15] <Kyral> Will Breezy X be fixed? :P
[09:15] <HappyFool> D1: try using dpkg -L pure-ftpd ?
[09:15] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: which part of vnc?
[09:15] <Puff-n-Stuff> MrMaDSeN, yes, I use vnc on ubuntu.  mostly viewer, but,,
[09:15] <HappyFool> patrickj: err, that looks gentoo-ish to me
[09:15] <demirg> Brunellus: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[09:16] <demirg> Brunellus: [Switching to Thread -1212288896 (LWP 9425)]
[09:16] <patrickj> lol
[09:16] <HappyFool> demirg: try 'bt' to get a backtrace
[09:16] <MrMaDSeN> nalioth: vncviewer........ how do I get out off fullscreen again after having pressed F8 ?
[09:16] <Brunellus> demirg: hm.
[09:16] <patrickj> http://denu.sourceforge.net/run_down.html
[09:16] <ed1t> HappyFool, you know any tutorial for creating a custom ubuntu live cd?
[09:16] <HappyFool> demirg: gdb is not really going to help you if you don't have the source, and can't hack c
[09:16] <HappyFool> ed1t: um, sorry, no
[09:16] <patrickj> well i just need something to generate a menu for openbox......
[09:16] <zerboxx> Anyone here know of an equivalent to "Palm Desktop" for linux???
[09:16] <Brunellus> Ok.  what do I have to do to enable linux-restricted-modules?
[09:17] <patrickj> well i guess i'll revert to doing it myself....
[09:17] <HappyFool> Brunellus: isn't it installed?
[09:17] <Brunellus> HappyFool:  this is what I can't work out
[09:17] <demirg> HappyFool, i know a little bit C, bu dont know if i have the source :)
[09:17] <kamstrumental> When loading files into the Music Player library, I get the error: There is no plugin installed to handle a MP3 file.  It seems I have everything installed correctly....?
[09:17] <nalioth> MrMaDSeN: i'm not familiar with vncviewer, i use krdc
[09:17] <Puff-n-Stuff> MrMaDSeN, when you hit F8, does it bring up a menu?
[09:17] <HappyFool> demirg: well, if you care, you can probably get it with apt-get source
[09:18] <Brunellus> if yes, then why can't I configure my wireless
[09:18] <ramdiaz> hello, does anyone know where I can get the Java JDK
[09:18] <HappyFool> Brunellus: 'dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules'
[09:18] <Puff-n-Stuff> ramdiaz, java.sun.com
[09:18] <HappyFool> Brunellus: make that 'dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules*'
[09:18] <MrMaDSeN> Puff-n-Stuff: yes... I choose fullscreen... but then I cant quit it again...
[09:18] <Une-ga-dihi>  /msg nickserv link Dr_Fate darthirc
[09:19] <ramdiaz> i tried the sun site but i can only get the binary
[09:19] <signius> Brunellus have you read the docs on madwifi once you download there is a readme and and install doc that tells you how to insta them
[09:19] <Puff-n-Stuff> MrMaDSeN, when you are in fullscreen and hit F8, it gives you the same menu, yes?   and you select fullscreen again and it doesnt unfullscreen?
[09:19] <HappyFool> ramdiaz: take a look here for some instructions for Java on ubuntu:
[09:19] <HappyFool> !java
[09:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:19] <Brunellus> I'mr eading the docs...
[09:19] <Brunellus> arse
[09:19] <Une-ga-dihi>  /msg nickserv link
[09:19] <signius> Brunellus its not that bad at all from what i remember i was a real newbie when i go thtem working
[09:20] <Brunellus> they revised the card.  my card ( version B) won't run.
[09:20] <MrMaDSeN> Puff-n-Stuff: I dont get the F8 menu when i push F8 again.. thats my problem
[09:20] <Brunellus> badness ins't the issue
[09:20] <ramdiaz> thanks
[09:20] <Brunellus> heavy lifting is.  iwthout that wlan card, that computer has no 'net access...
[09:20] <Brunellus> and I really don't want to haul it down two flights just to plug in.  *sigh*
[09:21] <Puff-n-Stuff> MrMaDSeN, try CTRL-TAB or CTRL-ALT-F1 and see if it does anything on the host?
[09:21] <signius> you cant beat a prism2 based card or cisco aironet i dont think
[09:21] <Puff-n-Stuff> would anyone happen to have some insight on how to get a microcolutions backpack cdrw working through usb on 5.04?
[09:21] <signius> my first card was a linksys with a broadcom chipset couldnt get it to work under linux for toffy
[09:21] <Puff-n-Stuff> microsolutions, rather,
[09:21] <signius> got the dlink to work with madwifi
[09:22] <Sergej> how would one go about changing the default language on the system?
[09:22] <signius> i use a bufalo now which is a melco really and apart from the oronico drivers being a pain in the arse for RFMON stuff it otherwise works first in every distro i tried it with on my laptop
[09:22] <signius> though i have just ordered a cisco aironet
[09:23] <ValheruLord> why is not grubconf in repository
[09:24] <Brunellus> ugh.
[09:25] <Puff-n-Stuff> Brunellus, agreed.
[09:25] <signius> but i cant get airodump or Airtraf to work under ubuntu with the melco orinoco card
[09:25] <signius> not matter what i do i cant seem to get the card into RFMON mode
[09:25] <signius> yet kismet can put the card in RFMON mode
[09:25] <signius> what the hell am i doing wrong or not doing that i should be doing ?
[09:26] <demirg> HappyFool, i got the source by typing apt-get source xmms
[09:26] <mumbles> can i  install something like the  dhcp dump command wich you can do under knoppix?
[09:27] <demirg> HappyFool, it was downloaded automaticaly to /home/demirg/.xmms/xmms-1.2.10/
[09:27] <demirg> HappyFool, now what?
[09:27] <HappyFool> demirg: now you need to tell gdb where it is
[09:27] <HappyFool> demirg: stand by while i launch gdb ;)
[09:28] <signius> mumbles if you can do it under knoppix you will be able to do it under ubuntu and as they are both debian based it cant be too much work to suss out how to do it
[09:28] <HappyFool> demirg: meanwhile, you can type 'help' in the gdb prompt to get help
[09:28] <mumbles> yeh
[09:28] <mumbles> i downlaoded it via synoptic
[09:28] <mumbles> but wheni turn and run dhcp dump it dosent work
[09:29] <mumbles> as in $dhcp dump
[09:29] <Doonz> yay
[09:29] <Doonz> its all good
[09:29] <ubu> quit
[09:30] <tomiki> hola a todos
[09:30] <demirg> HappyFool: ok, waiting...
[09:30] <signius> mumbles i am just installing it now and will try it
[09:30] <mumbles> ok
[09:30] <mumbles> i worked out how to do i on my other machene
[09:30] <mumbles> but cant seem to get it to work now
[09:30] <jasoncohen> well, i goot doonz backup
[09:31] <tomiki> is possible install ubuntus in my portatil with a cd usb
[09:31] <signius> yeah it just hangs doesn it
[09:31] <mumbles> trying to read the man pages:p
[09:31] <MrMaDSeN> ok... that didn
[09:31] <signius> yeah i am in the man page now also
[09:31] <MrMaDSeN> didn't work... crappy vnc
[09:32] <tomiki> is possible install ubuntus in my portatil with a cd usb
[09:32] <HappyFool> demirg: hmm
[09:32] <HappyFool> demirg: minor problem
[09:32] <demirg> HappyFool: what do u mean?
[09:32] <HappyFool> demirg: file $(which xmms) says: "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ..., stripped"
[09:32] <HappyFool> demirg: i.e., xmms doesn't have debug info
[09:33] <signius> mumbles hardly the most imformative man page i ever read
[09:33] <jasoncohen> how is the vino color setting set? when i log into a friend's vino server, i get 8 bpp. when i log into my own i get 24 bpp
[09:33] <tomiki> is possible install ubuntus in my portatil with a cd usb
[09:33] <mumbles> yeh
[09:33] <HappyFool> demirg: if you *really* want to track this down, you can probably recompile xmms with debug info in
[09:34] <HappyFool> demirg: the alternative is just to use some other player
[09:34] <demirg> HappyFool: no thanks :)
[09:34] <HappyFool> demirg: people here have recommended 'beep-media-player', which is apparently similar to xmms
[09:34] <HappyFool> demirg: i use rhythmbox, myself
[09:34] <Kyral> its basically the GTK2 version of XMMS
[09:34] <signius> mumbles have you got tcpdump installed and working ?
[09:35] <mumbles> i have the man pages for it...
[09:35] <mumbles> goes to check synoptic
[09:35] <demirg> HappyFool: i installed beep too, but i does not work either
[09:35] <HappyFool> demirg: hrm
[09:35] <demirg> HappyFool: it does not
[09:36] <mumbles> signius,  they are
[09:36] <signius> mumbles actually i am not sure of it working or not as there doesnt appear to be any verbose output switch for dhcpdump
[09:36] <demirg> HappyFool: do i need to configure some options in beep?
[09:36] <othernoob> how do i check the firmware of a cd/dvd drive?
[09:36] <HappyFool> demirg: i'm not sure; when you say 'does not work', do you mean segfault or something else?
[09:37] <signius> mumbles i havnt used this before how does it take for you to capture data when you run dhcpdump under knoppix
[09:37] <signius> mumbles How long i meant
[09:38] <mumbles> it just shows up in the terminal i ran the program in
[09:38] <mumbles> instantley
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[09:38] <signius> mumbles Will it only catch DHCP requests tho ?
[09:38] <demirg> HappyFool: i choose an mp3 file to play, it does not do anything
[09:38] <paines> hi
[09:38] <mumbles> it normaly shows eveything that goes in and out of your comtpuer
[09:38] <signius> mumbles So does it have to wait until a DHCP packet is transmitted
[09:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can customers get any dumber than the ones that i have? >.<
[09:38] <demirg> HappyFool: rhythmbox works though :)
[09:39] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes
[09:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas,
[09:39] <Seveas> customer stpidity is infinite :)
[09:39] <mumbles> Seveas ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes - seconded
[09:39] <paines> where can I lear about how to become a ubuntu developer and provider packages ?
[09:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Seveas, you ant seen these kind before
[09:39] <signius> mumbles So how does dhcpdump differ from tcpdump ?
[09:39] <Seveas> paines, wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[09:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> complete morons when it comes to computers
[09:39] <demirg> HappyFool: i do get the same error: "Segmentation fault" when i try to run mplayer, too
[09:39] <mumbles> signius, dunno actally
[09:39] <Seveas> paines, and apt-get install maint-guide for a packaging manual
[09:39] <demirg> HappyFool that's why i am tryin to fix it
[09:39] <mumbles> but tcp dump dosent work either
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's taken me 30hrs to fix there system and i'm still not done yet >.<
[09:40] <demirg> HappyFool, xmms is not important but mplayer rocks :)
[09:40] <mumbles> strange
[09:40] <mumbles> it works now
[09:40] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, :|
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[09:40] <ricky> anyone feel like helping with a sound problem?
[09:40] <ploum> Bonsoir a tous
[09:40] <signius> mumbles tcpdump is 100% working on my laptop
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they fried there hardware by pluging 2 power cables into there cd-rom
[09:40] <mumbles> yeh it jus tstarted to work now
[09:40] <paines> Seveas: thank you very much
[09:40] <signius> mumbles but dhcpdump is just sitting there with a blinking curser
[09:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> one fd0 and one hda power cable into the same device
[09:40] <mumbles> yep
[09:41] <mumbles> ouch
[09:41] <bina> if Ive downloaded the java SDK (j2ee something :) ) do I need to download the JRE?
[09:41] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, how on earth is that possible :|
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the fd0 cable was plugged into the sound out >.<
[09:41] <Seveas> argh,,,
[09:41] <mumbles> wtf
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[09:41] <MrMaDSeN> demirg: try using vlc media player... easy to use.. easy to install
[09:41] <mumbles> right
[09:41] <mumbles> i know now what my perfered job is
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it frid the power supply the cd-rom the ethernet card the motherboard and cpu and i don't know what else yet
[09:42] <demirg> HappyFool: apt-get install vlc?
[09:42] <signius> mumbles it looks like you cant start tcpdump while dhcpdump is running
[09:42] <bluefoxicy> Can anyone recommend a good Linksys or Netgear WIFI adaptor for PCI for my desktop?
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm still finding surprises and i've replaced more of the studd
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> suff
[09:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stuff even >.<
[09:42] <HappyFool> demirg: um, i'm not sure
[09:42] <tommy> how do i get ventrilo to autostart as daemon?
[09:42] <Razor-X> any bittornado users here?
[09:42] <MrMaDSeN> demirg: look at the vlc homepage first........ add to your apt sources.list  then apt-get install vlc :)
[09:42] <mumbles> i go to an new office with other people - put in new system- and then bugger off
[09:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: you using a guil?
[09:43] <Razor-X> VLC kicks ass
[09:43] <signius> sorry was being dumb i was trying to run tcpdump as auser and not as root
[09:43] <HappyFool> demirg: how about something like 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/generic.wav' ?
[09:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: hell no
[09:43] <Razor-X> btdownloadcurses.bittornado ;)
[09:43] <demirg> HappyFool: :)
[09:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: whats the question
[09:43] <knudsen_> Hello. I have just installed proftpd, and I would like to add users without actually adding users to my system. I have created a file, ftpd.passwd, but how do I make proftdp use this in stead of /etc/passwd?
[09:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: speed
[09:43] <Razor-X> I have --minport 6800 and --maxport 6999
[09:43] <mumbles> well least i can now see whas going on
[09:43] <nalioth> Razor-X: bt gives what you give
[09:43] <demirg> HappyFool: it is cool
[09:43] <Razor-X> but, it's still getting lousy ass speed
[09:43] <kafeine> i want to create a user with very limited avaible actions, for example, only logging in, starting firefox, and logging off. someone to help me?
[09:43] <Razor-X> nalioth: Azureus gives me much better
[09:43] <HappyFool> demirg: hrm
[09:44] <HappyFool> demirg: sorry, i'm getting out of my depth
[09:44] <nalioth> Razor-X: disregard 68xx anything, --minport 6969 --maxport 63999
[09:44] <nalioth> Razor-X: so use azureus
[09:44] <Razor-X> nalioth: that's a hell of a port range
[09:44] <bluefoxicy> bah screw it.
[09:44] <Razor-X> Azureus goes 100% CPU on me
[09:44] <nalioth> Razor-X: the ports are for people to find YOU
[09:44] <mumbles> ffs
[09:44] <demirg> HappyFool: pardon me 'cool' means good, beatiful.... right?
[09:45] <mumbles> i made a website for an organisation
[09:45] <mumbles> and no one is fucking using it
[09:45] <Razor-X> nalioth: I only use 3 simeltaneous uploads
[09:45] <mumbles> and when i remined em they go - not now
[09:45] <Razor-X> capped at 19 k/s
[09:45] <nalioth> Razor-X: only 3?
[09:45] <HappyFool> demirg: it means lots of things. roughly 'good' ;)
[09:45] <Razor-X> and the max i've ever gotten is 300 k/s with those settings
[09:46] <demirg> HappyFool: ok :)
[09:46] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you're using ERC, right?
[09:46] <demirg> HappyFool: thanks very much by the way
[09:46] <nalioth> Razor-X: i'm confused. i've used "gnu screen + bt~curses.b~nado" and had dozens of instances goin
[09:46] <Razor-X> HappyFool: yeah, of course
[09:46] <HappyFool> demirg: ok. good luck.
[09:46] <HappyFool> Razor-X: do you have the ScrollToScreenBottom (err.. forgot the name just at the mo) thing installed?
[09:46] <Razor-X> nalioth: well, I have 3 simeltaneous uploads per torrent
[09:47] <Razor-X> HappyFool: couldn't get it working
[09:47] <HappyFool> Razor-X: hrm
[09:47] <Razor-X> I just ended up getting used to my floating input line
[09:47] <tritium> heh, I'm helping my 57-year-old mom use Warty/OpenOffice via VNC
[09:47] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i don't mind the input line, but the text jumping up to halfway bugs me
[09:47] <Razor-X> my eyes have gotten used to it after a while
[09:47] <Razor-X> HappyFool: yeah, took me a bit of getting used to, but after that, it helps
[09:47] <Razor-X> if need be, I just C-u 0 C-l
[09:47] <HappyFool> hrm
[09:48] <HappyFool> oh well, i'll wait for version 5 to be in ubuntu
[09:48] <Razor-X> or M-v as needed
[09:48] <Razor-X> I downloaded erc
[09:48] <Razor-X> that way, you don't have to reload emacs
[09:48] <Razor-X> just extract it, and add in the elisp functions
[09:48] <Razor-X> same with emms
[09:49] <Razor-X> and don't forget M->
[09:49] <HappyFool> yeah, i know all those :P
[09:49] <HappyFool> i just want it not to jump
[09:49] <Razor-X> yeah, I know ;)
[09:49] <Razor-X> yeah, it used to be annoying
[09:50] <Razor-X> but trust me, after a while, it becomes reflex
[09:50] <HappyFool> it's nice having all the emacs keys again
[09:50] <Razor-X> I know, I don't know how I lived without erc
[09:50] <HappyFool> but i do feel like a bit of an emacs-nerd ;)
[09:50] <Razor-X> HappyFool: I have no reservations ;)
[09:50] <Razor-X> I rarely ever leave my emacs
[09:50] <Razor-X> I even play nethack here
[09:50] <HappyFool> heh
[09:50] <Razor-X> hell, if i'm in the mood for emacs internet, I use Conkeror
[09:51] <signius_> mumbles I am beginning to think that dhcpdump is broken i just deliberatly created some dhcp packets and traffic on my lan and nothing appeard
[09:51] <Razor-X> while it's technically not emacs, it uses just about the same bindings
[09:51] <HappyFool> aj
[09:51] <HappyFool> ah, even
[09:51] <wrtpeeps> what repository is x-window-manager-core on?
[09:52] <HappyFool> wrtpeeps: do you mean x-window-system-core?
[09:52] <wrtpeeps> ah, maybe that's it
[09:52] <wrtpeeps> thanks
[09:52] <wrtpeeps> exit
[09:53] <sophtpaw> hi all, wondered if someone might be able to tell me. Why does flightgear not run from 'Run Application'
[09:53] <sophtpaw> Synaptic confirms that it is installed, yet it won't run?!
[09:53] <tritium> sophtpaw, you should probably read the docs in /usr/share/doc/flightgear
[09:54] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: i think it might need a fair number of run-time parameters
[09:54] <Belutz> i just installed apache from source.... and i create a script apache.sh and put it in /etc/init.d why it doesn't start automatically?
[09:54] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: the ms-windows version has a launcher -- i don't know if the linux/ubuntu one does
[09:54] <sophtpaw> but i had synaptic install flightgear, should i not expct it to run
[09:54] <tritium> Belutz, why didn't you install the ubuntu package?
[09:54] <sophtpaw> happy fool, so how would you suggest i launch it?
[09:54] <HappyFool> Belutz: it needs to be linked in appropriate /etc/rc?.d directories
[09:54] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: i'd suggest doing what tritium says
[09:55] <tritium> Belutz, use update-rc.d for your custom initscript
[09:55] <Belutz> tritium: i got problem with integration with php-mysql, and donno how to make it work
[09:55] <sophtpaw> yes, read the docs?
[09:55] <tritium> It seems it would be easier to use ubuntu's apache, though
[09:55] <sophtpaw> and the docs will tell me how to launch maybe?
[09:55] <tritium> sophtpaw, yes
[09:55] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: also, try running it from the command-line, i.e., Applications -> system tools -> command line
[09:55] <Belutz> ow ic ic... i'll try it
[09:55] <sophtpaw> ok, thx tritium
[09:55] <tritium> no problem, sophtpaw :)
[09:56] <sophtpaw> sorry, but how do i ask to read the doc??
[09:57] <sophtpaw> cd ls or something?
[09:57] <tritium> sophtpaw, all packages contain docs in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[09:57] <DraK0n> u
[09:57] <tritium> so, cd /usr/share/doc/flightgear
[09:58] <tritium> sometimes, they're gzipped, so I often use "zless README.Debian.gz", for example
[09:58] <CargolNet> hi, exists any application that a user could associate the extension .deb to just click it and get it installed? something like;" gnome-sudo dpkg -i $1"
[09:58] <signius_> mumbles are you still there ?
[09:58] <sophtpaw> tritium: sorry, i'm not so good at this
[09:59] <sophtpaw> this is the transcript:
[09:59] <sophtpaw> conrad@x1-6-00-0b-6a-16-78-f0conrad:~$ cd /usr/share/doc/flighgear
[09:59] <sophtpaw> bash: cd: /usr/share/doc/flighgear: No such file or directory
[09:59] <jvs_> good evening
[09:59] <HappyFool> flightgear
[09:59] <HappyFool> not flighgear
[09:59] <sophtpaw> ai
[09:59] <Dr_Fate> gnomebaker is so buggy its unuseable, why is it on the ubuntuguide page?
[10:00] <sophtpaw> no, excuse for not being able to spell :)
[10:00] <Dr_Fate> and what other gui burner beside nautilus' do ppl use, non KDE of course
[10:00] <sophtpaw> and then ls
[10:00] <signius_> mumbles from what i am reading it looks like you need to pipe the output of tcpdump through dhcpdump but i am unsure of the command to do this
[10:00] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: yip
[10:00] <gnobody> does x work in Breezy?
[10:00] <samu> one thing that gets on my nerves with linux "Unrecognized command line option "--help", try "-help"."
[10:01] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: you could also try 'flightgear --help'
[10:01] <sophtpaw> HappyFool: ok, well first of all i got a list of Readmes - how do i open one up?
[10:01] <signius_> mumbles i assume it is just tcpdump -v | dhcpdump
[10:02] <sophtpaw> conrad@x1-6-00-0b-6a-16-78-f0conrad:/usr/share/doc/flightgear$ ls
[10:02] <sophtpaw> AptNavFAQ.FlightGear.html  README.fgjs           README.protocol
[10:02] <sophtpaw> AUTHORS                    README.gui.gz         README.running.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> changelog.Debian.gz        README.introduction   README.SimGear
[10:02] <sophtpaw> changelog.gz               README.IO.gz          README.sound
[10:02] <sophtpaw> copyright                  README.IRIX           README.src
[10:02] <sophtpaw> FlightGear-FAQ.html        README.Joystick       README.TerraSync
[10:02] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: try 'less <filename>'
[10:02] <sophtpaw> NEWS.gz                    README.JSBSim         README.uiuc.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README                     README.jsclient       README.Unix
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.autoconf            README.Linux.gz       README.Win32-X
[10:02] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: please don't paste here...
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.commands.gz         README.logging        README.xmlhud.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.conditions.gz       README.MacOS          README.xmlpanel.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.Cygwin              README.MSVC           README.xmlsound.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.Debian              README.multiplayer    README.xmlsyntax.gz
[10:02] <HappyFool> *sigh*
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.electrical.gz       README.plib           Thanks.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> README.extensions          README.properties.gz
[10:02] <sophtpaw> ok
[10:02] <Amaranth> ack
[10:02] <sophtpaw> :(
[10:02] <signius_> sophtpaw STOP
[10:02] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: if the file ends in .gz, use 'zless' instead, so 'zless README.electrical.gz', for example
[10:02] <sophtpaw> sorry i don't know the rules of engagement
[10:03] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: otherwise, just 'less README'
[10:03] <signius_> sophtpaw use http://paste.ubuntu.nl as stated at the top of the chat room
[10:03] <HappyFool> sophtpaw: i recall flightgear as being a little tricky to run from the command line
[10:03] <Seveas> common sense should tell you the same...
[10:03] <mumbles> signius,  sorry was getting irritated
[10:03] <martz_> if anyone knows how to correctly set up dual monitors with an ati card, please message me... i've got most of it set up but it's not working right
[10:03] <mumbles> theres fuckall happering over here
[10:04] <ricky> i'd be happy enough with working ati drivers
[10:04] <signius_> mumbles i am trying the piped command now to see what happens
[10:04] <ricky> or sound for that matter
[10:04] <mumbles> ok
[10:04] <signius_> mumbles it didnt complain when i entered it
[10:04] <ricky> are there any known sound problems with amd64?
[10:04] <signius_> but to be honest i am unsure what should happen
[10:05] <mumbles> ive given up .. tcpdump is working
[10:05] <mumbles> thanks for help signius
[10:05] <signius_> mumbles thats not the attitude
[10:05] <mumbles> will give it another go in about 1/2 an hour
[10:06] <signius_> ok no problem
[10:06] <signius_> im off for a bit off food for a bit
[10:06] <HappyFool> ricky: more likely with your soundcard / chipset. Take a look here maybe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[10:06] <signius_> i ll be back soon
[10:06] <mumbles> but am getting serisouly buggered off with other stuff
[10:06] <signius_> what elsegiving you hassle ?
[10:06] <mumbles> nothing ubnutnu
[10:06] <ricky> thanks, i did already, but i can't seem to find too much
[10:06] <signius_> ok
[10:06] <signius_> bbl
[10:07] <ricky> it's just a basic realtek ac97 onboard card
[10:07] <ricky> the modules are loaded and it looks like its working fine, but no sound
[10:07] <Belutz> tritium: it works, the apache.sh is executed on boot :D thx :D
[10:08] <DraK0n> ne1 willing to help me get some codecs installed? never used Linux befire
[10:09] <HappyFool> ricky: take a look at 'alsamixer'
[10:09] <HappyFool> ricky: make sure PCM / master channels are not muted
[10:09] <HappyFool> ricky: sometimes some of the weirder line-in channels must be muted (or something like that)
[10:09] <Belutz> is there any wifi manager for gnome?
[10:09] <ricky> looks all up
[10:11] <HappyFool> ricky: note they mustn't be muted (have an 'MM' below the bars)
[10:11] <ricky> yah i checked
[10:11] <Dr_Melectaus> Ive got a bit of a problom and its getting rather annoying, i tried to install ut2k4 earlier on today and my laptop couldnt detect the disc (dvd version) i tried for a good while to get it to detect it but had no luck. So i resorted to copying the files onto a windows machine i have on my network, and copied them over from the windows machine to this laptop. i managed to get the installer running but now its asking for me to mount the play disc- w
[10:11] <Dr_Melectaus> hich it doesnt detect
[10:11] <ricky> all say 00, im guessing 100 but cut off
[10:11] <Dr_Melectaus> so any chance someone could help me sort my problom
[10:12] <tritium> Belutz, :)
[10:12] <HappyFool> ricky: no, the level is below (100<>100). Maybe 'Open' (?). anyway, sorry, that's my best guess
[10:12] <Dr_Melectaus> the level is not equal to 100 ?
[10:12] <patrickj> hey im using openbox and i need to know how to get something to run on startup, not through session manager
[10:12] <ricky> it is
[10:12] <ricky> all cranked to max
[10:13] <Dr_Melectaus> so is anyone willing to help me?
[10:13] <Kyral> like my stereo..... </Dark Helmet>
[10:13] <Belutz> tritium: after i finish my project, or have some free time, maybe i'll try to install apache and php from the package again and try to work it out, thx for your help :D
[10:14] <Brunellus> so I'm going to have to build new madwifi drivers
[10:14] <Brunellus> which will of course break after every kernel patch
[10:15] <tritium> Belutz, no problem.  Good luck!  :)
[10:15] <Kyral> I am so happy that my Wireless card was supported in the kernel
[10:16] <Belutz> tritium: do you know how to automatically virus-scan all outgoing email? i'm using thunderbird and clamav
[10:16] <joevandyk> Can someone recommend a wireless (PCI or USB) card that will work with 64 bit ubuntu?
[10:16] <Kyral> joevandyk, I know that Orinco cards are supported in the Kernel
[10:16] <joevandyk> Ones that need ndiswrapper are pretty much out, unless there's a 64 bit windows driver.
[10:16] <tritium> Belutz, no, I'm sorry..
[10:16] <joevandyk> What wireless cards use the orinco chipset?
[10:17] <patrickj> anyone?
[10:17] <Kyral> Actually its the Atheros chipset
[10:17] <Belutz> tritium: ok, thx :)
[10:17] <Kyral> but the Orinico brand uses them (I dunno if I spelled it right)
[10:17] <joevandyk> I have a Airlink card that uses the acx_111 chipset.  It works, but it's really SLOW.  I can only download stuff at 20KB/s.
[10:18] <Kyral> lemme scan Newegg for them
[10:18] <joevandyk> But, if I use bittorrent, then I can download at 100 KB/s, as I can download at 20KB/s per connection.  It's weird.
[10:18] <joevandyk> thanks!
[10:19] <samu> anyone know how to get lynx to not display the list of extra links and stuff at the bottom of the page?
[10:20] <leonard144j> hello
[10:20] <leonard144j> new user here
[10:20] <Kyral> joevandyk, all these have the Atheros chipset
[10:20] <Kyral> http://customerproducts.atheros.com/customerproducts/ResultsPageBasic.asp
[10:21] <Kyral> leonard144j, what can we do for you?
[10:21] <leonard144j> need some very newbie advice
[10:21] <Kyral> and Welcome to the Wonderful World of Linux <Insert Copyleft Logo Here>
[10:21] <Dr_Melectaus> Ive got a bit of a problom and its getting rather annoying, i tried to install ut2k4 earlier on today and my laptop couldnt detect the disc (dvd version) i tried for a good while to get it to detect it but had no luck. So i resorted to copying the files onto a windows machine i have on my network, and copied them over from the windows machine to this laptop. i managed to get the installer running but now its asking for me to mount the play disc- w
[10:21] <Dr_Melectaus> hich it doesnt detect
[10:22] <mattik_> Hello. Need you identifying before you answer the questions?
[10:22] <leonard144j> sure...how to id?
[10:22] <jk24> Hello
[10:22] <Kyral> Dr_Melectaus, do you have a DVD reader </dumb question>
[10:23] <Dr_Melectaus> yes Kyral
[10:23] <Kyral> Identify?  Maybe I must find new nick...
[10:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it will work with no problem?
[10:23] <Dr_Melectaus> but nothing is happening
[10:23] <Kyral> is the disc clean?
[10:24] <leonard144j> Question: Just switched from 98 to Ubuntu...lost my zonealarm...
[10:24] <Dr_Melectaus> yes
[10:24] <Kyral> leonard144j, ZA isn't on Linux
[10:24] <robotgeek> firestarter
[10:24] <leonard144j> ...do i need a firewall?
[10:24] <Kyral> not that you need it
[10:24] <Dr_Melectaus> i installed it on my older mor eunreliable windows machine earlier
[10:24] <leonard144j> ...cool...firewall not needed then.... thanks
[10:24] <Kyral> You can use FireStarter, but like I said you don't really need it
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> firestarter? i have that
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> but dont know what its for
[10:25] <joevandyk> Anyone know why a wireless card would work, but be really slow?
[10:25] <Kyral> Firewall :D
[10:25] <leonard144j> firestarter....thanks...i'll check it ouit
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> ahhh
[10:25] <Kyral> joevandyk, Low signal strength...
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> i got confuzzled with kickstart Kyral
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> i have firestarter up and running
[10:25] <Kyral> kickstart?
[10:25] <Dr_Melectaus> yea
[10:25] <Kyral> oh  lol
[10:25] <Kyral> eh I don't know whatr kickstart is
[10:25] <robotgeek> joevandyk, how far away are u from the router?
[10:25] <leonard144j> does firestarter do antivirus?
[10:26] <Kyral> leonard144j, no
[10:26] <Kyral> again, not like you need it
[10:26] <leonard144j> what should I have for antivirus protection?
[10:26] <Kyral> you can install clamav if you wanna be 100% sure
[10:26] <Kyral> but you don't need it
[10:26] <robotgeek> leonard144j, u don't need one
[10:26] <LinuxJones> leonard144j, not necessary
[10:26] <leonard144j> i am so used to being paranoid... this is new for me...
[10:27] <Kyral> just keep the system updated and you will be fine
[10:27] <Kyral> Be free my Brother
[10:27] <leonard144j> lol
[10:27] <Kyral> you are safe now
[10:27] <Kyral> and with friends :D
[10:27] <robotgeek> yeah, i just have it in my cron job to run updates at 3:00 am
[10:27] <robotgeek> and i don't even have to worry abt updates!
[10:27] <Kyral> how the hell do you set a cronjob anyway
[10:28] <Kyral> we need an idiot proof GUI for Cron
[10:28] <robotgeek> /etc/crontab
[10:28] <Kyral> I know where it is
[10:28] <HappyFool> Kyral: 'man 5 crontab' and 'man crontab'
[10:28] <robotgeek> it's just a line which u need to add :)
[10:28] <LinuxJones> Kyral, there is also gcron
[10:28] <Kyral> then how do you get around the sudo thing
[10:28] <Zartan> ok. :) Now I have new nick. I like to know how I install nvidia-modules to new kernel. I installed kernel 2.6.11 and if I start it I don't get X running.
[10:28] <joevandyk> kyral, robotgeek, My signal strength is fine.  I've got laptops next to the computer that can download at 500KB/s.
[10:29] <robotgeek> Kyral, just run as user root
[10:29] <Kyral> joevandyk, try manually changing the throughput on the wireless card
[10:29] <DraK0n> anyone willing to help me get sound working...codecs didn't install, and everytime I try it says it couldn't find the packages
[10:29] <joevandyk> It's weird, because it seems that I'm limited to a maximum download of 15-20 KB/s per connection.  If I start another download, it'll go that fast for it.
[10:29] <HappyFool> Kyral: you can use the crontab program to install user crontab files
[10:29] <HappyFool> Kyral: it's not terribly difficult
[10:29] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, what files are you trying to play ?
[10:29] <DraK0n> mp3, ogg, avi
[10:29] <DraK0n> new to linux tho
[10:30] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, but your sound is working tho right ?
[10:30] <Kyral> its not like I'm a newbie, but for some reason adding crontabs never really clicked with me
[10:30] <sempsteen> hi all!
[10:30] <DraK0n> not for cd's either, it's installed my caRD THO
[10:30] <joevandyk> And meanwhile, my other linux laptops are downloading at really fast speeds.
[10:30] <joevandyk> I'm just wondering if I need to get a better supported wireless nic.
[10:30] <robotgeek> i just got pissed with running apt-get everytime
[10:30] <robotgeek> joevandyk, u had a orinoco right?
[10:30] <joevandyk> No, a acx_110
[10:30] <Kyral> robotgeek, thing is, the commands are never more than like 6 entries back in my Bash History :P
[10:31] <sempsteen> why don't u use package manager?
[10:31] <Kyral> me?
[10:31] <Kyral> because I like the command line
[10:31] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, you can install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[10:31] <robotgeek> sempsteen, me...cause it's faster!
[10:31] <sempsteen> no robotgeek
[10:31] <Kyral> and I have alias set like crazy to make it easy
[10:31] <Zartan> I have kernel 2.6.10 and 2.6.11. How I update nvidia drivers for newer kernel?
[10:31] <sempsteen> yeah i tihnk so
[10:31] <joevandyk> Kyral, the throughput?  iwconfig says that the bit rate is 1 Mb/s.
[10:31] <DraK0n> when I try to install them it says it cant find the packages
[10:31] <DraK0n> it's pissing me off
[10:32] <Subliminal> on the java wiki entry for installing on hoary, apt-get tells me it cant find package java-package
[10:32] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, ok you have to add the universe repositories
[10:32] <robotgeek> joevandyk, set that to 54 MB/s, though you will have to read ur driver documentation to do that
[10:32] <DraK0n> how>
[10:33] <DraK0n> don't see it in package manager
[10:33] <sempsteen> hey guys where can i obtain channels list?
[10:33] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst and make the line look like this >> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe
[10:34] <HappyFool> Seveas: you around?
[10:34] <robotgeek> Kyral, '30 3    * * *   root    apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' will update ur system at 3.30 am everyday
[10:34] <joevandyk> robotgeek, I did "iwconfig wlan0 rate 54Mb" and it now says that the bitrate is 54 Mb/s.
[10:34] <Kyral> robotgeek, where do I add that?
[10:34] <robotgeek> joevandyk, cool..but did ur downloads get any faster
[10:34] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, once you've done that open synaptic and hit the reload button top left and search again
[10:35] <robotgeek> Kyral, /etc/crontab
[10:35] <DraK0n> k one sec
[10:35] <joevandyk> robotgeek, when i set it to 54Mb/s, I think the connection was lost.
[10:35] <robotgeek> joevandyk, :0
[10:35] <Kyral> robotgeek, sokay, i enjoy seeing the updates :D
[10:35] <HappyFool> good night
[10:35] <robotgeek> joevandyk, u might want to  sudo dhclient wlan0
[10:36] <robotgeek> Kyral, to each his own!
[10:36] <DraK0n> swwet now I have a lot more to install..gonna try now
[10:36] <Knowerrors> Gday all
[10:37] <magyar>  /quit
[10:37] <ilba7r> i could not find it on google. Is there a spell checker that check double words for linux? Aspell does not perform this check
[10:37] <Knowerrors> Anybody here with a savage card that got DRI working?
[10:37] <Subliminal> on the java wiki entry for installing on hoary, apt-get tells me it cant find package java-package
[10:38] <Subliminal> on the java wiki entry for installing java on hoary, going throught the instructions, apt-get tells me it cant find package java-package
[10:38] <robotgeek> sorry, turned off the announce away
[10:38] <dArtagnan> Anyone has experience with Savage (game) with ubuntu?
[10:38] <jk24> Subliminal, it's in multiverse
[10:39] <Subliminal> jk24: i'm sure i've enabled that
[10:40] <thelow> is there native support for (laptop) screen brightness in ubuntu?
[10:40] <jk24> Subliminal, java-package: 0.23 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages
[10:40] <robotgeek> thelow, which laptop do u have? AFAIK, ubuntu does that
[10:40] <thelow> apple powerbook G4
[10:40] <mortified_pengui> Hey, when i try to open the package manager or any other app that needs root access it gives me this error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[10:40] <mortified_pengui>  Child terminated with 1 status Does anyone know how to fix this? thanks
[10:41] <robotgeek> thelow, yup...it has that
[10:41] <robotgeek> thelow, which model do u have?
[10:41] <thelow> nice. where do you find it?
[10:41] <thelow> powerbook G4 aluminium 1.5GHz
[10:42] <Discipulus> hmm
[10:42] <robotgeek> thelow, try "sudo apt-get install pbbuttonsd gtkpbuttons"
[10:42] <Discipulus> I `apt-get install hydra-gtk` but now I can't find it...
[10:42] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, sorry dude I don't do dcc :)
[10:42] <DraK0n> cool
[10:42] <joevandyk> Orinico chipsets for wireless are supposed to work well too, right?
[10:42] <DraK0n> got the stuff re-installed, still no sound
[10:42] <thelow> oh
[10:42] <Subliminal> jk24: dont think i have that one
[10:43] <robotgeek> joevandyk, yeah..i had to actually struggle quite a bit with mine
[10:43] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, do you have any sound at all ?
[10:43] <DraK0n> none
[10:43] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, open the mixer control and make sure nothing is muted or turned down.
[10:43] <DraK0n> keep getting a message sating theres no decompressors
[10:43] <DraK0n> already did
[10:43] <caspar> question
[10:43] <joevandyk> robotgeek, how come?
[10:43] <caspar> my WIreless network dous not work
[10:44] <odeez> Subliminal: you didnt have to come all the way here, I could have sorted that for you back home :-P
[10:44] <LinuxJones> DraK0n, mp3 playback should work at least
[10:44] <dArtagnan> Anyone experience with installing Savage?
[10:44] <jk24> Subliminal, apt-cache search java-package
[10:44] <DraK0n> not even CD, or video werks
[10:44] <Discipulus> I `apt-get install hydra-gtk` but now I can't find it...
[10:44] <jk24> Subliminal, or apt-cache policy java-package
[10:44] <Subliminal> ty
[10:44] <engie> Hi. I'm trying to resize my root partition using parted, but I need to unmount it. This scares me, also how will I run parted if it's unmounted?
[10:44] <robotgeek> i use ralink, which just now went gpl, but it's improving with every release!
[10:44] <jk24> dArtagnan, you may give us an url of savage
[10:44] <justin`> engie: it's called use a live cd
[10:44] <DraK0n> it's only like that on the laptops we got from school, the HO another kid got werks fine on install
[10:45] <caspar> The wireless is viseble
[10:45] <caspar> please help me
[10:45] <dArtagnan> official url or the download urls?
[10:45] <engie> justin`: fair enough
[10:45] <joevandyk> It would be great if I could find a list that I could print out that contained a list of all good wireless usb/pci cards that I could take to Fry's with me.  I really only need 802.11b.
[10:45] <jk24> engie, boot on a cd
[10:45] <dArtagnan> http://www.savagedownload.tk/ - http://www.s2games.com/savage
[10:46] <mortified_pengui> engie -- you could use a boot disk
[10:46] <mortified_pengui> opps, too late
[10:46] <D1> whats a good easy ftp server to configure in ubuntu?
[10:46] <patrickj> ello
[10:47] <jk24> dArtagnan, what's your problem ?
[10:47] <patrickj> I have a problem and im seeking a solution
[10:47] <patrickj> is it possible to find it here?
[10:47] <jk24> dArtagnan, i cannot download 320Mo now
[10:47] <jk24>
[10:47] <Hoxzer> how do I change window in screen?
[10:47] <dArtagnan> After the install of the game, 2.00c and SEP I only get a black screen
[10:48] <DraK0n> been using the help guide for like 2 days, but still have nothing to play the music files with..all the hardware is installed, and have MPlayer that won't install too
[10:48] <mortified_pengui> hey, does anyone know why i get this error:  Child terminated with 1 status ?
[10:48] <patrickj> Can anyone help me?
[10:48] <jk24> dArtagnan, the web talk about patches
[10:49] <patrickj> ive stated my problem 50 time sbefore and noone seems to know anything, but i though this was a support channel?
[10:49] <dArtagnan> yes, I wrote that website myself :P
[10:49] <ern> ubuntu in spanish?
[10:49] <dArtagnan> You have to patch the game with 2.00c and a community-made patch
[10:50] <caspar> sorry for disconnect
[10:50] <DraK0n> screw this I'm quiting to windows to listen to a fucking mp3 then
[10:50] <caspar> but can someone help me with my wireless card?
[10:50] <Kyral> why didn't he install w32codecs?
[10:51] <robotgeek> sure
[10:51] <robotgeek> caspar, state ur problem!
[10:51] <caspar> the wireless card just sais error
[10:52] <caspar> unknown device
[10:52] <LinuxJones> caspar, have you seen this >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:52] <jk24> dArtagnan, a sound 'lock' problem ? can it be launch without sound ?
[10:52] <dArtagnan> no idea
[10:52] <dArtagnan> have to check that
[10:52] <mortified_pengui> hey, does anyone know why i get this error:  Child terminated with 1 status ?
[10:52] <Golen42> no idea
[10:53] <no_gatez_fan> trying to change some permissions...i thought chmod -R 777 /any/file would work  ...any ideas?
[10:53] <terrific> ubuntu uahhh
[10:53] <dArtagnan> chmod 0777 file
[10:54] <no_gatez_fan> k will run that
[10:54] <no_gatez_fan> standby
[10:54] <caspar> the wificard dous not show in the ifconfig -a list
[10:54] <terrific> does anybody know a good step by step user (noob) guide to linux terminals
[10:55] <no_gatez_fan> :( nope didnt work
[10:55] <caspar> linuxjones?
[10:55] <Discipulus> I `apt-get install hydra-gtk` but now I can't find it...
[10:56] <mortified_pengui> caspar -- did you try iwconfig
[10:56] <dArtagnan> terrific, go to console and press help, not a tutorial, but it shows you all the commands
[10:56] <dArtagnan> *type help
[10:57] <caspar> robotgeek
[10:57] <robotgeek> is your wireless card supported?
[10:57] <caspar> it is standart in my laptop
[10:57] <caspar> so i donno
[10:58] <robotgeek> caspar, which laptop do u have?
[10:58] <caspar> HP zv5000
[10:58] <robotgeek> !repositories
[10:58] <ubotu> I guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:58] <engi1> Hi. I'm trying to resize my ubuntu-created ext3 partition from parted running from a knoppix 3.7 CD, but it sais "Filesystem has incompatible feature enabled". How do I prod it into resizing the partition
[10:58] <engi1> ?
[10:59] <jk24> engi1, the ubuntu install is able to resize partitions...
[10:59] <Blissex> engi1: the incompatible feature most likely is the log.
[10:59] <[D] patrick> hi i have a problem, i had install mplayer-plugin for firefox and the VLC. Now i removed the mplayer plugin because i want to use VLC only in firefox but i heard only the sound by wmv movies and no pictures... why?
[11:00] <Discipulus> I `apt-get install hydra-gtk` but now I can't find it...
[11:00] <robotgeek> caspar, sorry no idea...
[11:00] <caspar> robotgeek, do you know somone who can have an ID
[11:00] <tritium> Discipulus, use "dpkg -L hydra-gtk" to see what files the package contains.  You may have to run it from the command line if it doesn't have a proper menu entry
[11:00] <m0r0n> How do I find files greater than 500MB?
[11:00] <jk24> Discipulus, it's because apt-get have an conscience control feature :)
[11:01] <m0r0n> find / -size > ?
[11:01] <Zartan> So I have installed nvidia driver by notes of ubuntuguide. Now I installed kernel 2.6.11 and restart and I don't get graphical mode running. Do I apt-get dist-upgrade or what I do?
[11:01] <flodine> need to take a screenshot can i get some help
[11:01] <robotgeek> system -> take screenshot, or print screen
[11:01] <tritium> Zartan, 2.6.11 is unsupported, and doesn't have the nvidia kernel module, as there are no linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.11
[11:01] <engi1> Arg, where's an ubuntu install CD when you need one
[11:01] <flodine> take screenshot
[11:02] <Zartan> tritium: Thank you :)
[11:02] <engi1> Specifically, all mine are approx. 350miles south of me at the mo...
[11:02] <mortified_pengui> Is there anyway to login to ubuntu as root?
[11:02] <robotgeek> caspar, unless u know something abt your wireless card, no one can help you :)
[11:02] <tritium> Zartan, no problem
[11:02] <Zartan> tritium: How I remove this 2.6.11 kernel
[11:03] <mortified_pengui> hey, does anyone know why i get this error:  Child terminated with 1 status ?
[11:03] <darkmatter> good afternoon, all:)
[11:03] <tritium> Zartan, you can use synaptic, or apt-get remove, or dpkg --purge.  Whichever you prefer
[11:03] <robotgeek> mortified_pengui, what does google say?
[11:03] <caspar> robotgeek, if i do lspci it sais broadcom corporation bcm4301 802.11b
[11:03] <mortified_pengui> robotgeek -- nothing
[11:04] <mortified_pengui> some pages in another language that dont translate very good
[11:04] <jk24> mortified_pengui, set a password to root, you'll be able to log with
[11:04] <Zartan> tritium: Thank you very much. :) I knew only rpm -qa |grep kernel ;) I changed to ubuntu and I'm happy for it :)
[11:04] <[D] patrick> hi i have a problem, i had install mplayer-plugin for firefox and the VLC. Now i removed the mplayer plugin because i want to use VLC only in firefox but i heard only the sound by wmv movies and no pictures... why?
[11:04] <engi1> sod it, RIP my laptop's hoary installation for a couple of months of XP (for work use) - soon it'll be back and better than ever.
[11:04] <robotgeek> caspar, i think u need ndiswrapper
[11:05] <tritium> Zartan, awesome :)
[11:05] <joevandyk> ubuntu needs a page that has a list of fully-supported hardware (including wireless)
[11:05] <caspar> what?
[11:05] <robotgeek> !ndiswrapper
[11:05] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:05] <digitalfox> it has one, joevandyk
[11:05] <robotgeek> that -> casper
[11:05] <mortified_pengui> jk24 -- a password for what?
[11:05] <joevandyk> digitalfox,  where?
[11:05] <jk24> mortified_pengui, root
[11:06] <mortified_pengui> how do i do that?
[11:06] <digitalfox> ugh. hold on, let me find it
[11:06] <tritium> mortified_pengui, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:06] <mortified_pengui> jk24*
[11:07] <mortified_pengui> tritium thanks
[11:07] <tritium> sure
[11:07] <joevandyk> digitalfox, something like this would be awesome: http://www.linspire.com/linspire_hardware_compatibility.php
[11:07] <digitalfox> joevandyk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:07] <digitalfox> it's very incomplete and very bad, but it's there
[11:08] <digitalfox> there's a lot of stuff there that's poorly supported and a lot of stuff that's not there that's very well supported :)
[11:09] <joevandyk> digitalfox, thanks!
[11:09] <patrickj> question...what default rl is ubuntu on
[11:09] <patrickj> 2 or 4?
[11:09] <crimsun> 2
[11:09] <mjr> rl?
[11:09] <digitalfox> joevandyk, what specific question do you have?
[11:09] <crimsun> like Debian.
[11:09] <digitalfox> joevandyk, I might be useful
[11:09] <crimsun> (no runlevel games)
[11:10] <mjr> ah, runlevel
[11:10] <caspar> brb
[11:10] <joevandyk> digitalfox, My currently wireless card is a Airlink one that uses the acx_111 chipset.  But it's really slow.
[11:10] <digitalfox> mhm
[11:11] <digitalfox> so it works, just slowly?
[11:11] <joevandyk> digitalfox, and i have laptops running ubuntu that are 10x faster than it. I get a maximum download speed of 15Kb/s per connection.  But if I use bittorrent, which uses multiple connections, I can download much faster.
[11:11] <flodine> anyone use streamtunner
[11:11] <jk24> flodine, sometimes, yes
[11:11] <demirg> Why do i get an error message like: "Segmentation fault" when i try to run xmms or mplayer???
[11:11] <demirg> any help
[11:11] <Samuar> Evening All.
[11:12] <Belutz> how do i installed .deb packages?
[11:12] <crimsun> demirg: need more context
[11:12] <crimsun> Belutz: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[11:12] <Belutz> crimsun: thx
[11:12] <joevandyk> digitalfox, and since acx_111 support is still experimental in linux, i figured i'd need a better supported one.
[11:12] <demirg> crimsun: context?
[11:12] <digitalfox> ah
[11:12] <crimsun> demirg: simply saying they crash isn't enough information to help you resolve the issue(s)
[11:13] <demirg> crimsun: yea, i know that but that's the only thing i have got now
[11:13] <demirg> crimsun: it just says "Segmentation fault"
[11:14] <crimsun> demirg: help us help you. Tell us what you did. For instance, how did you install mplayer and xmms?  If it's 1.0.6, uninstall any extensions (if you have any), as some break Firefox.
[11:20] <cyphase> darkmatter, well, it's the latest one
[11:20] <crimsun> demirg: are those the only two applications that segfault?
[11:20] <cyphase> a backport of 1.0.6 i think
[11:20] <demirg> crimsun: i think so
[11:20] <cyphase> caspar, with what?
[11:21] <caspar> i can't find ndiswrapper
[11:21] <caspar> and i need it to get my wireless working
[11:21] <demirg> crimsun: my other daily apps are working
[11:21] <crimsun> demirg: does it still segfault after a reboot?
[11:21] <crimsun> demirg: do they, rather
[11:21] <cyphase> caspar, have you enabled all the repositories?
[11:21] <caspar> yes
[11:21] <demirg> crimsun: yes, still segfault
[11:21] <caspar> i use 64 bit
[11:21] <cyphase> caspar, well, that might be it
[11:21] <xliu> what is the EOF keys in the terminal
[11:22] <cyphase> xliu, Eon Of File
[11:22] <cyphase> End*
[11:22] <crimsun> demirg: were you having problems with the Nvidia drivers yesterday?
[11:22] <demirg> crimsun: yes
[11:22] <h08817> who is good with ndiswrapper?
[11:22] <demirg> crimsun: and i still do :)
[11:22] <h08817> what is the name of the filename for the netgear inf file
[11:22] <h08817> i need to install my netgear wg111 usb driver
[11:22] <xliu> I mean, how to tell an application that I have complete the input in the terminal so that app can process the data
[11:22] <crimsun> demirg: can you reproduce the segfaults using the nv driver?
[11:22] <Brunellus> foo on wlan!
[11:23] <pere> How do I change from UTF8 to ISO-8859-1 in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <DekaPink> Oh, me, oh my... I can't seem to get 3D games to... not be slow.
[11:23] <demirg> crimsun: today i removed nvidia-kernel-common
[11:23] <bagpuss_thecat> anyone able to recommend a bootsplash system for hoary?
[11:23] <h08817> anyone good with netgear?
[11:23] <demirg> crimsun: and erased /etc/rc?.d/*nvidia-glx sym links
[11:23] <joevandyk> So I found a USB wireless nic.  I plugged it in.  The prism2_usb module gets loaded.  iwconfig shows it. But, it's not showing up in my gnome networking manager.  Why not?
[11:23] <crimsun> pere: you need to (1) sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ; (2) set the default LANG and LC_ALL
[11:23] <joevandyk> So I found a USB wireless nic.  I plugged it in.  The prism2_usb module gets loaded.  iwconfig shows it. But, it's not showing up in my gnome networking manager.  Why not?
[11:24] <darkmatter> cyphase, if it's the 1.06 package you have (which is the latest), then you definitely want to start disabling some extensions. They've been causing nothing but trouble.
[11:24] <xliu> cyphase, , I mean what is the Keys for EOF
[11:24] <Brunellus> no need to flood, joevandyk
[11:24] <demirg> crimsun: i am already using nv
[11:24] <joevandyk> Brunellus, sorry, i didn't think it got through.
[11:24] <pere> thanks crimsun!
[11:24] <Chris_Tucker> i keep having this problem:
[11:24] <Chris_Tucker> http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=44966
[11:24] <crimsun> demirg: oh geez, why did you do all that?
[11:24] <h08817> any1 use ndiswrapper?
[11:24] <DekaPink> Can anyone tell me where I'll find the splash image for gimp?
[11:24] <Brunellus> joevandyk: open a terminal.  $sudo ifup wlan0
[11:24] <joevandyk> Brunellus, i wasn't connected when i sent the first one, but apparently x-chat buffers messages
[11:24] <Brunellus> no biggie.
[11:24] <crimsun> demirg: paste your Xorg log onto the topic's pastebin
[11:24] <Chris_Tucker> i am currently running kubuntu and wish to switch without reinstalling with another iso
[11:25] <demirg> crimsun: it was just a try to fix this segfault
[11:25] <jaco^> anyone has compiled vlc for google video?
[11:25] <joevandyk> Brunellus, (I have a PCI wireless, so it's showing up at wlan1).  It says "Ignoring interface wlan1=wlan1"
[11:25] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: run sudo apt-get -f
[11:26] <Brunellus> bizarre.  "ignoring?"
[11:26] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, with what package?
[11:26] <joevandyk> Actually, ifconfig shows wlan1 with a hardware address of all 0s
[11:26] <joevandyk> that's not right
[11:26] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: no, just run that.
[11:27] <ColonelKernel> what ever happened to chris tucker
[11:27] <demirg> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/756
[11:27] <Chris_Tucker> im right here
[11:27] <ColonelKernel> they guy who did rush hour a jackie chan
[11:28] <Chris_Tucker> oh
[11:28] <Chris_Tucker> dont know
[11:28] <robotgeek> joevandyk, u need to add it to /etc/netwotk/interfaces
[11:28] <crimsun> demirg: that's not the Xorg log. That's the Nvidia installer log, and you shouldn't run that since you've already destroyed half the Ubuntu infrastructure for handling the binary-only Nvidia driver.
[11:29] <robotgeek> joevandyk, network
[11:29] <ubuntudigger> is there any commands or programs i can use to fix errors on my computer, in windows it was called scan disc
[11:29] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, it destroys ubuntu to install the nvidia driver?
[11:29] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: that's not what I said.
[11:29] <robotgeek> ubuntudigger, fsck
[11:29] <ubuntudigger> in root terminal
[11:30] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, if theres some problem with installing the nvidia driver on ubuntu plz let me know, so far its working great
[11:30] <joevandyk> test
[11:30] <tritium> ColonelKernel, did you install the ubuntu package?  There's nothing wrong with that method.
[11:30] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: demirg attempted to make his install work by randomly removing symlinks.
[11:30] <ColonelKernel> tritium, theres an ubuntu package for non-standard kernels?
[11:30] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, ouch
[11:31] <crimsun> again, please read stuff in context.
[11:31] <tritium> ColonelKernel, for ubuntu kernels
[11:31] <crimsun> afternoon, tritium. Feeling more relaxed, I hope? :)
[11:32] <demirg> crimsun: no that's not what i did. i tried to install using sudo sh NVDIA...6.run
[11:32] <Chris_Tucker> crimson, i had to boot the thing back up, but now it seems to have loaded the standard gnome without any problems regardless of that error, yet i am still gonna try and fix that error
[11:32] <ColonelKernel> tritium, I compile my own kernels from ubuntu source
[11:32] <tritium> crimsun, hello to you too.  Yes, quite well, thanks :)
[11:32] <demirg> crimsun: but could not succed
[11:32] <joevandyk> Brunellus, back
[11:32] <crimsun> demirg: then you removed nvidia-kernel-common and the symlinks for nvidia-glx?
[11:32] <demirg> crimsun: so i thught i did not nedd all that stuff
[11:32] <tritium> ColonelKernel, you can use the nvidia-kernel-source package in that case
[11:32] <demirg> crimsun: yes
[11:33] <crimsun> demirg: in any case, that's completely beside the point now. You should paste your Xorg log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) onto the topic pastebin.
[11:33] <ColonelKernel> tritium, what is the difference between that package and the one from nvidia?
[11:33] <joevandyk> Brunellus, the hardware address of the usb nic is all 00's.  So that's weird especially when the prism2_usb module got loaded ok.
[11:33] <demirg> crimsun: but the segfault problem had already happened before i deleted them
[11:33] <demirg> crimsun: ok
[11:34] <catolh> eeek, my firefox just crashed.. :(
[11:34] <tritium> ColonelKernel, nvidia doens't provide anything as well integrated into the package management system
[11:34] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, i still get the same erro
[11:34] <Chris_Tucker> r
[11:34] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: use aptitude instead of apt-get
[11:35] <patrickj> hey i was wondering where the torsmo sample config file was...?
[11:35] <ColonelKernel> tritium, I can't imagine that its THAT beneficial considering the driver is binary regardless (no open source nvidia driver)
[11:35] <DanglyBits> Where can I find all the latest security updates and backports for Hoary ?
[11:35] <tritium> ColonelKernel, you can use the ubuntu source package to build yourself the nvidia kernel module in a nice .deb that is under package management
[11:35] <demirg> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/757
[11:35] <parabolize> patrickj, looking
[11:35] <ColonelKernel> tritium, you can do the same with the nvidia driver
[11:35] <ubuntudigger> it says: Deleted inode 3211489 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>?
[11:35] <ubuntudigger>  what do i do now
[11:36] <tritium> ColonelKernel, your preference then
[11:36] <crimsun> DanglyBits: noted in the references in the topic
[11:36] <parabolize> patrickj, take it out of the gz /usr/share/doc/torsmo/examples/torsmorc.sample.gz
[11:36] <h08817> hello
[11:36] <parabolize> hello
[11:36] <h08817> i need help with getting online
[11:36] <catolh> Can anyone direct me to a Opera install howto?
[11:36] <catolh> !opera
[11:36] <h08817> i have netgear Wg111
[11:37] <h08817> i have ndiswrapper installed
[11:37] <catolh> oh, nevermind.. :p
[11:37] <h08817> and that driver is installed
[11:37] <patrickj> kk thanks
[11:37] <ColonelKernel> linsyswrt54g here
[11:37] <h08817> now how do i get online