[05:39] <Dr_willis> You are talking to a guy that has a 500gb hd for his uvuntu box.. I install EVERYTHING. :)  heh
[05:39] <winbond> Dr_willis: im suposed to run kde4 from xephyr, but xephur is just a blank screen i cant do anything on
[05:39] <SapoChule> Dr_willis & hitmanWilly -> cheers
[05:39] <Dr_willis> winbond,  i would say time to check the xephyr docs and see if it uses .xinitrc or some other startup script to tell it what to 'run' when it starts up
[05:40] <draik> arunkale: http://pastebin.ca/643926
[05:41] <shahzeb> how can i get 3d desktop guys
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Xephyr is a kdrive based X Server which targets a window on a host X Server as its framebuffer. Unlike Xnest it supports modern X extensions
[05:41] <Dr_willis> so thats what xephyr is
[05:41] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[05:41] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:41] <ShockValue> well there we have it.. i found the brute for dictionary, and the programs the haXXor was using to screw my box
[05:42] <ShockValue> -for +force
[05:42] <Dr_willis> shahzeb,  whats your video card? You will wna tto get its 3d going firsty
[05:43] <seventh> Anyone here ?
[05:43] <seventh> need help with a live CD
[05:43] <ShockValue> what bothers me, is i have a decent firewall, relatively up to date.. in front of this machine.. yet i still got hacked.. im wondering what i did to let the sucker in
[05:43] <DaSkreech> TheRealInsane: sounds like your CPU fan is off?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> shahzeb: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[05:43] <DaSkreech> !ask | seventh
[05:43] <ubotu> seventh: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> seventh,  and the problem is?
[05:44] <seventh> ShockValue did you start-x --nolisten tcp?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Man Leave to get a drink and you lose trust :-(
[05:44] <draik> arunkale: Any clues?
[05:44] <ShockValue> seventh: whatever kubuntu does by default.
[05:45] <seventh> Dr_willis the live CD is unable to start-x on one system just sits there looks blanly at me unable to use dial up due to missing files on another and unable to find the modem on the third
[05:45] <ShockValue> interesting, i just found my root password in a generated password file in plaintext in this hacker directory
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Dialup? ICK :)
[05:46] <seventh> Yep dial up
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: well, the way I do it is a router based firewall with all but a couple of ports blocked, and the unblocked ones are non-standard ones
[05:46] <Dr_willis> ShockValue,  you enabled root password... :) shame..
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I do that also. heh heh..
[05:47] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: So change it :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> my router has most everthing blocked however.  Im not even sure i can ssh in
[05:47] <Dr_willis> why would the guy leave the root password in a file?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: ssh is something good to block unless you really need it
[05:48] <Dr_willis> yep. I dont need it. i set it where it can only get accesed on the locallan
[05:48] <ShockValue> hitmanWilly: im using IPcop, but i had SSH open to this box so i could work on it from work
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis: probably some script kiddie who really didn't know what he was doing or how to cover his tracks
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Cause it's a script
[05:49] <ShockValue> So let my mistake be a lesson to you all....   port 22 open, password enabled root, semi-common sequence of letters for a password = hacked box.
[05:49] <DaSkreech> It breaks the box, generates a new random password  makes a file and when next it gets net access mails it back
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: a suggestion would be to have ssh connect on something other than the default port
[05:49] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: IP open to the net?
[05:49] <tank> when I try to install ssh it asks for the CD...I put the CD in and it than never moves past 0%...any suggestions
[05:49] <ShockValue> hitmanWilly: ill do that next time.. i no longer trust this box (im not proficient enough in linux to "CLEAN" this box)... so im going to rebuild now
[05:50] <ShockValue> DaSkreech: yeah, i wanted to access it from work :(  my bad
[05:50] <DaSkreech> tank: It asks for the CD?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> tank: really?
[05:50] <tank> ya...
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> ShockValue: good idea anyway, even a super guru might miss omething in this case
[05:50] <DaSkreech> tank: What version of Kubuntu ?
[05:50] <tank> newest
[05:50] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: >_<
[05:50] <ShockValue> see ya'll in a few hours
[05:50] <tank> downloaded today
[05:50] <Dr_willis> i always use 'password1' for my root password! they never guess that! :)
[05:50] <tank> it says put the CD in and hit enter
[05:51] <DaSkreech> tank: ok look in adept and from the adept menu choose manager repos
[05:51] <draik> How do I remove an app that refuses to leave?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> tank: Tell me how many of those check boxes are highlighted ?
[05:51] <ShockValue> maybe not, but they did guess "1q2w3e4r"  :)
[05:51] <DaSkreech> draik: Format!! :)
[05:51] <tank> errr sorry! I'm talking about a server my bad
[05:51] <monkeybritches> I hear 'password2' is twice as secure as 'password1'
[05:51] <arunkale> draik: uninstall it from adept?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Password90210 is even better!
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :_
[05:51] <seventh> In term sudo kill all -9 <app name>
[05:51] <DaSkreech> tank: ah great :) can You look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:51] <DaSkreech> tank: are you in Irssi now?
[05:52] <seventh> i think
[05:52] <tank> I'm on a differnt box..right now
[05:52] <tank> but the server needs this key board and moniter lol
[05:52] <Biovore> monkeybritches: md5hash or 3des is probably the way to go with passwords..  1 way..  Can't really be decoded..
[05:52] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: ok see you later. please if you have any port open to the outside secure it with your might and strength
[05:52] <tank> thus why I want to ssh to it
[05:52] <tank> so it can just sit on my floor :P
[05:52] <DaSkreech> You probably have an average of 5000 attemtps in a day on your box
[05:52] <monkeybritches> I just leave it on a post-it stuck to my forehead ;)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm forehead.. Hmm..
[05:53] <ShockValue> yeah, after what happened today, im going to revisit all my opened ports and their securtiy strength
[05:53] <tank> DaSkreech: what am I looking for? I have to switch over to the server
[05:53] <DaSkreech> tank: Ok lets do this easier
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Has anyone seen  'printable' 'fake tatoo' paper? ya know like the teeshirt iron paper only where ya can make custome temp. tatoos.
[05:53] <seventh> shock value do not forget to start-x manually with the no listen tcp option
[05:53] <DaSkreech> tank:  is the machie you are on a debian/ubuntu box ?
[05:53] <tank> yes
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I recall seeing decal stuff once. for model makers and so forth..
[05:54] <DaSkreech> draik: What do you mean remove? From memory or from the computer ?
[05:54] <phoenixz> How can I make compiz start automatically with KDE? In ubuntu-effects they only know how to do this in Gnome
[05:54] <draik> DaSkreech: computer
[05:54] <DaSkreech> tank:  ok apt-get --download-only install openssh-server
[05:54] <ShockValue> heh, he left his little tag "greets to all #WwWRuN members"
[05:54] <DaSkreech> draik: how will it not leave?
[05:55] <draik> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/643926
[05:55] <tank> and it would be smart to get rid of the half-messed up install?
[05:55] <seventh> Hey shockvalue  chmod his folder to 0000
[05:55] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: find that IRC chan and Lurk it
[05:55] <ShockValue> yeah, im thinking the same thing DaSkreech.. i dont know what server its on though
[05:55] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: You can put it in Kdeinit or Autostart
[05:55] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[05:55] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:56] <tank> DaSkreech: thanks brb
[05:56] <DaSkreech> tank: yeah purge that. You know where that file goes to rigth ?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> draik: dpkg --configure -a
[05:57] <draik> Ok, then... remove?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> draik: yeah sure
[05:58] <DaSkreech> what ever you like after that
[05:58] <draik> same
[05:59] <Biovore> www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6VWt4m9o4   <-- kde with the new compviz fusion running on it..
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !info ghostscript gutsy
[05:59] <ubotu> ghostscript: The GPL Ghostscript PostScript/PDF interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 8.60.dfsg.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 697 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:59] <Biovore> maybe want to skip the end :-/
[06:00] <draik> Biovore: The url contained a malformed video id.
[06:00] <ShockValue> DaSkreech: found em on undernet, but not allowed to join channel
[06:01] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: didn't think so
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Probably username or ip address restricted
[06:02] <ShockValue> ah well, live and learn.. i have sympathy for those fellas because I used to dabble in that crap.. ijust have better things to do with my time these days :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> ShockValue: If you are idle enough you can find out the names of the people on and hunt them down :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Oh
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Guess not then :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !info ghostscript
[06:02] <ubotu> Package ghostscript does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :0
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Sweet
[06:04] <Dr_willis> hmm..
[06:04] <Dr_willis> I aint seen that  name in a long time. :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> wonder what they use now a days.
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Which name
[06:05] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: How goes?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> gs-common - Common files for different Ghostscript releases
[06:05] <Dr_willis> gs-esp - The Ghostscript PostScript interpreter - ESP version
[06:05] <Dr_willis> ghostscript is just called 'gs' it seems now a days. :)
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's GPL now
[06:06] <DaSkreech> and modular it seems
[06:06] <Dr_willis> +good :) ++good.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Modular == sooooo KDEish
[06:07] <DaSkreech> So anyone heard of Smolt?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Plugins and Themes! like Winamp! :)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> smolt  = isent that a kind of fish.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> or was that Smelt?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Awwww winamp
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Smelt
[06:15] <Cannoli> hey guys
[06:15] <Cannoli> im back
[06:15] <Cannoli> :)
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Hi
[06:16] <kewlsolutions> ateneo
[06:16] <Cannoli> ok so i cleared up some major space for the partition
[06:16] <DaSkreech> kewlsolutions: Hi
[06:16] <kewlsolutions> irc
[06:16] <Cannoli> now how do i partition without losing files?
[06:19] <kewls> hi
[06:19] <Cannoli> hello
[06:19] <DaSkreech> The install should do that for you
[06:19] <kewls> asl
[06:20] <tank> ok I have ssh installed...I think...Now I need to access the server (on my floor) with this computer....
[06:20] <Cannoli> ~ DaSkreech ~ so when i run the install, it will make it so that my pc is dual boot and i can choose whether i want to run linux or xp on bootup?
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:20] <Cannoli> ~ kewls ~ 17/m/toronto, u?
[06:21] <tank> it says the port is blocked btw...
[06:21] <Cannoli> ok now wht if xp is isntalled on a different drive than kubuntu?
[06:21] <tank> if XP and kubuntu are on differnt drives than there is no need to partition
[06:22] <level1__> How do I install grub on a linux software raid setup?
[06:22] <Cannoli> ~ tank ~ but im installing kubuntu on my slave drive
[06:22] <Cannoli> which justholds files
[06:22] <tank> ya than you will need too :P
[06:23] <tank> just make sure you leave room for your files and you should be fine
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: I think it takes care of that as well
[06:23] <Cannoli> ok
[06:23] <tank> its pretty striaght foward once you get to the installer
[06:23] <Cannoli> and is there a way i can limit how much space kubuntu gets and how much space is for my files?
[06:24] <tank> thats what a partition is
[06:24] <tank> it will ask you how much space you want to give kubuntu and how much you want to leave...for your files
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: Yep
[06:24] <Cannoli> i know but will it give me the option to have like 100 gb for linux and like 150 for other files?
[06:24] <kewls> phil m23
[06:24] <Cannoli> perfect
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Cannoli: yep
[06:24] <Cannoli> ok
[06:24] <Cannoli> imma switch over to linux
[06:24] <Cannoli> and run the installed
[06:24] <Cannoli> thanx :)
[06:25] <Cannoli> bbiab
[06:25] <tank> ok now DaSkreech I think I got ssh installed now it says the port is closed?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> tank: ah. On the server?
[06:25] <tank> from this computer when I try to connect it says the servers port is closed
[06:26] <DaSkreech> tank: the server's port is closed then :) did you try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start ?
[06:26] <tank> ya...and everything went good
[06:26] <tank> as far as I thought lol :P
[06:26] <tank> it would be port 22? right
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:27] <DaSkreech> yeah
[06:27] <DaSkreech> You tried ssh into it's own ip address ?
[06:27] <tank> let me try
[06:27] <tank> sec
[06:29] <tank> ssh: connect to host 70.1* port 22: Connection refused
[06:29] <tank> so what would I do to make sure that ssh is running?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> tank: that sudo /etc thing I did above
[06:31] <tank> if the ssh server is already started it will say it failed to load right?
[06:31] <tank> because I stopped it and than started it a few times
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[06:31] <tank> seemed fine
[06:31] <tank> ok
[06:32] <tank> let me go see
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Do you havea firewall running?
[06:32] <tank> on a third computer...that is connected to the network....so that should matter...
[06:33] <DaSkreech> :)
[06:33] <DaSkreech> That's good logic there
[06:33] <arunkale> how does one disable a firewall
[06:34] <tank> so the theory is...that when I connect to localhost...my server should be the only one with port 22 open and thus my computer will connect to the server?
[06:34] <seventh> not advisable
[06:34] <seventh> do not disable the firewall
[06:34] <tank> I have three computers plugged diretly into my router
[06:34] <DaSkreech> tank: good theory as well
[06:34] <DaSkreech> tank: right and they get ips from...?
[06:35] <tank> the router?
[06:35] <seventh> Your ISP could insert crap or anyone else could too if it is wide open
[06:35] <tank> ya know what...
[06:35] <tank> whats it called when the router auto-assigns an internal IP address DH something?
[06:36] <monkeybritches> DHCP
[06:36] <seventh> dhsp
[06:36] <tank> would it matter if the server is currently DHCP?
[06:36] <seventh> dhcp i mean
[06:36] <vzduch> seventh: just for info, *buntu has no ports open by default.. so a good portion of common sense can very well replace a firewall
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't as long as you know what the server's ip address is
[06:36] <elite_hacker> hey my sound card(s) dont work in kubuntu? i tried 3 network sound cards 2 ISA slot soundcards but Kmix still shows the X symbol on the speaker in systray? why is this happening?
[06:36] <tank> ok well back to the server....
[06:36] <tank> brb
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !sound
[06:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:37] <elite_hacker> i have hardware in sounds and devices seleceted as auto detect
[06:37] <seventh> vzduch not even the famous x port listening?
[06:37] <elite_hacker> why does it show the X symbol?
[06:37] <elite_hacker> lol
[06:37] <vzduch> seventh: ?
[06:38] <elite_hacker> i would laff so hard if it was that
[06:38] <seventh> Port 6663 or somewhere near it i think the one related to starting  x
[06:38] <arunkale> how do i disable my firewall? any idea?
[06:38] <vzduch> arunkale: what firewall?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> arunkale: I have no idea which firewall you are running
[06:39] <arunkale> the ubuntu iptables firewall
[06:39] <arunkale> my azureus speeds are crawling slow.. i just want to see if they improve if i disable the firewall
[06:39] <elite_hacker> nope i tried that in the settings still shows X i did a re-install and it shows it on the livecd too with the X on the Kmix
[06:39] <vzduch> I guess you enabled it yourself, because it's not on by default.. so you gotta know how to disable it again
[06:39] <elite_hacker> i think all the cards i used dont work
[06:40] <vzduch> and no, a firewall is usually no speedbrake
[06:40] <elite_hacker> i my as well buy a creative audigy
[06:40] <elite_hacker> 5.1-7.1 surrond
[06:41] <vzduch> arunkale: either you get something or you get nothing.. speed is not a function of the firewall
[06:41] <seventh> Mind you i have yet to get kubuntu to the net yet
[06:41] <arunkale> vzduch: my azureus has just stopped downloading.. i dont know why.. it doesnt download any torrents any more
[06:41] <elite_hacker> hey if the livecd shows the X symbol on Kmix does that mean for sure that all the sound cards i used are well garbage?
[06:41] <arunkale> and the nat icon is no longer green
[06:42] <elite_hacker> lol ur going to hate me again but whats the line for java6? the whole command line with spelling
[06:43] <elite_hacker> stupid adept wont let me clikc on OKAY* when installing java
[06:43] <tank> ya still no luck...
[06:43] <vzduch> elite_hacker: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[06:43] <monkeybritches> did you check to see if the soundcards were enabled in the bios setup?
[06:43] <elite_hacker> well i did default setup
[06:44] <elite_hacker> and when it loads to boot it says PnP creative
[06:44] <elite_hacker> so it does read them just that they dont work :(
[06:44] <monkeybritches> they should be, but it's at the hardware level so you'll need to reboot and hit F2 or DEL or whatever key it is to confirm
[06:44] <elite_hacker> i had an emachines and swtiched my parts to an accer mobo but now i dont seem to have sound and the soundcards i tried where known to not work
[06:45] <elite_hacker> yeah its DEL
[06:45] <monkeybritches> Oh, well then they're there, but maybe they're garbage :)
[06:45] <tank> anyone know why a server sitting on my floor wouldnt allow me to ssh into it because the port is closed?
[06:45] <elite_hacker> i know how to do that stuff but HW doesnt last for ever
[06:45] <elite_hacker> yeah
[06:45] <elite_hacker> true
[06:45] <elite_hacker> there like 1997"
[06:45] <elite_hacker> lmao
[06:45] <elite_hacker> ISA network dial-up modem doubbled as a Sound Card o.0
[06:45] <elite_hacker> with the added dust
[06:47] <monkeybritches> did you check the hardware compatibility lists here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=135 ?
[06:47] <elite_hacker> um no
[06:47] <elite_hacker> lol they woundlt support my hardware lmao
[06:47] <elite_hacker> its so old
[06:47] <monkeybritches> Couple of threads, pages deep, probably linked to the info you need
[06:47] <elite_hacker> i dont even know what it says on the faded chipsets
[06:47] <elite_hacker> :P
[06:47] <vzduch> as long as it's not ISA hardware, you can list it w/ lspci
[06:48] <monkeybritches> You could probably get working upgrades for free or next to nothing off Craig's List
[06:48] <vzduch> if it's recognized, it's in there
[06:49] <arunkale> aaa sorry wrong window again
[06:49] <elite_hacker> lol who cares u can pickup more advanced hardware in a commmadore than the cards i had to deal with
[06:49] <arunkale> how do i check if a certain port is open through konsole?
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale: you can do telnet localhost port
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> arunkale: no open network ports by default, remember that
[06:50] <arunkale> Admiral_Chicago: would you care to elaborate?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> tank: can you give me a rundown of what you ahve been doing to the server ?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> arunkale: nmap
[06:52] <DaSkreech> or telnet :)
[06:52] <elite_hacker> konsole is saying i need to do this " dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." in order to install java
[06:52] <elite_hacker> but i cant
[06:52] <vzduch> ?
[06:52] <elite_hacker> i need to have "superuser" privliaes
[06:52] <Maxdamantus> [16:51:11]   <elite_hacker> konsole is saying i need to do this " dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." in order to install java
[06:52] <elite_hacker> privillages*
[06:52] <Maxdamantus> Use sudo.
[06:52] <elite_hacker> sudo?
[06:52] <Maxdamantus> sudo <command>
[06:52] <elite_hacker> k
[06:52] <elite_hacker> lol
[06:52] <elite_hacker> duh*
[06:53] <Maxdamantus> And it's dpkg, or whatever program you use that outputs that, not Konsole,.
[06:53] <Maxdamantus> Konsole just reads the STDOUT and STDERR, and writes to the STDIN.
[06:53] <elite_hacker> lol that explains that guys nick name STDIN ** :P
[06:53] <elite_hacker> but i dont get it dpkg?
[06:53] <Maxdamantus> Huh?
[06:53] <elite_hacker> how do i fix adept and dont give me that ! adpet thing
[06:54] <elite_hacker> there is a command line for it
[06:54] <Maxdamantus> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:54] <vzduch> omg.. transferring things gotta be difficult this morning.. 'sud dpkg --configure -a'
[06:54] <Maxdamantus> ! adpet thing?
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adpet thing? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <elite_hacker> thanks
[06:54] <elite_hacker> yeah when i ask for help and ppl know but they like to use the ubotu instead of there brain
[06:54] <elite_hacker> !adept|fix
[06:54] <ubotu> fix: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:54] <Maxdamantus> Aw, damn, Kate crashed.
[06:55] <Maxdamantus> While trying to read a 67mb file of ascii0s.
[06:55] <vzduch> o0
[06:55] <elite_hacker> wow 93mb for java?
[06:55] <elite_hacker> jeEz i didnt know it was that much?
[06:55] <Maxdamantus> elite_hacker, that's probably the JDK.
[06:56] <elite_hacker> yeah i think
[06:56] <elite_hacker> lol my real name is elite101 lol i had to change it for channel reasons
[06:56] <elite_hacker> but im going to change it back
[06:56] <elite_hacker> 1min
[06:57] <elite_101> opps lol
[06:57] <elite101> there
[07:00] <DaSkreech> elite101: Fix what about adept?
[07:01] <elite101> nm
[07:01] <elite101> i got it
[07:02] <elite101> just that i closed adept when it was stuck on installing java but since u cant select <ok> it wont go past that so i closed it and it woudlnt work in console so i fixed it with some help
[07:02] <elite101> lol saved by the bell?
[07:02] <elite101> DaSkreech, Saved By the Bell?
[07:03] <elite101> ur nick
[07:03] <DaSkreech> Yah
[07:03] <elite101> lol
[07:03] <elite101> i watch that its on now. my mom use to watch it like when they where in grade school.
[07:03] <elite101> :P
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:04] <elite101> is there a website or something where i can download Splash boot screen? any packages i can get that change the startup screen and boot screen
[07:04] <elite101> i wanna get something else thats dark and not so blue and white
[07:05] <elite101> like black/grey/silver colour sheme
[07:05] <Ahmuck> i'v decided to buy a wireless pcmcia nic for this computer rather than trying to fight getting the internal wireless to work.  where would i find a list of "compatable" cards?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> kde-look.org
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: That's for elite101 Btw
[07:07] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure where the list of Wifi cards aer
[07:07] <DaSkreech> are
[07:07] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: ?
[07:07] <Ahmuck> oh, ok
[07:08] <elite101> cant u just boot uplive cd and see if it works?
[07:08] <elite101> lol sorry
[07:08] <elite101> thats bumb
[07:08] <elite101> cuz u need to buy it first
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Yeah unless he carries the Cd to the store
[07:08] <elite101> 75%chance it will work off the batt, 25% if it doesnt use Ndiswrapper
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Which is what I do but sitting at nice cool home in a nice big chair with fast net is so much nicer
[07:09] <elite101> or ask someone if its linux friendly?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> MMMM Ice cream
[07:09] <elite101> !ndiswrapper
[07:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:09] <elite101> :P
[07:10] <elite101> lol i wouldnt mind a vista theme for kubuntu (good thing is that it doesn come with the virus's and 4gb needed ram :P)
[07:10] <DaSkreech> elite101: hundreds on kde-look
[07:10] <DaSkreech>  for some reason it's the most popular theme
[07:11] <elite101> yeah
[07:11] <DaSkreech> followed quickly by mac OSX themes
[07:11] <elite101> so it looks like u spent 300$ on a system
[07:11] <elite101> yeah
[07:11] <elite101> lots of them
[07:11] <elite101> well are the "themes" safe?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Sorry?
[07:11] <elite101> what happens if they install worng?
[07:11] <elite101> wrong*
[07:11] <DaSkreech> You mean do they come with viruses
[07:11] <elite101> no
[07:11] <DaSkreech>  and need 4 GB of ram
[07:12] <DaSkreech>  Yes
[07:12] <DaSkreech>  yes they do
[07:12] <elite101> yea rite
[07:12] <elite101> ahh
[07:12] <elite101> i have only 256 :(
[07:12] <elite101> no i mean if u install it wrong u can screw up the desktop and stuff
[07:12] <DaSkreech> If they install wrong they make your screen look funky till you click back on good old Kubuntu defaults
[07:12] <elite101> lol
[07:13] <|TroubleMaker|> i am setting up a home network and want my wife to beable to share her files from her /home directory on this machine with her xp machine. is samba the only thing i need to install and configure to acomplish this aside from ofcourse the networking hardware
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> good morning, fellow ubuntians
[07:14] <elite101> how u spell temputure?
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> |TroubleMaker|: for simple sharing, yes, samba is what you will need
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> temperature
[07:14] <elite101> lol im a dummmy
[07:15] <|TroubleMaker|> thanks, just wanted to make sure that i didnt need anything else installed...and simple file share is all she will need to do (move her docs from one to the other and so forth)
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> |TroubleMaker|: check the howtos on the ubuntu site for how to set it up
[07:16] <|TroubleMaker|> k thanks
[07:17] <DaSkreech> !samba
[07:17] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Second Link I think
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> leave it to others to one-up me :)  good thing he's around, i completely blanked on just using the bot
[07:18] <|TroubleMaker|> <--------------------- should have thought about askin the bot himself
[07:18] <|TroubleMaker|> so dont feel totally bad
[07:20] <DaSkreech> There is a bot?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:21] <level1__> hmmm... how long should a new install of kubuntu take before it starts displaying something to the screen?
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> five, six....  days
[07:22] <DaSkreech> level1__: as much as your paitence
[07:22] <level1__> its been booting for about a minute now, accessing the hard drive, and it hasn't put anything on the screen yet
[07:22] <klobster> depends on if you are using dialup to ftp the packages
[07:22] <Daisuke_Ido> only a minute?
[07:22] <level1__> Daisuke_Ido: lol
[07:22] <klobster> level1__: hit ctrl-alt-f1 and see what it says
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are it's doing disk checking.  could take five to ten minutes possibly.  probably not, but it's possible
[07:23] <Ahmuck> !multiverse
[07:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:23] <level1__> klobster: I can't seem to switch to the vt
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ctrl-alt-f8 maybe
[07:23] <klobster> ctrl-alt-del maybe ; 0
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> sometimes i have to go there before i can get to tty1
[07:23] <level1__> Daisuke_Ido: I just had a major headache trying to get raid 5 setup.  I thought I was done, maybe not
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that just went WAY above my head.  i will say good luck, and be on my merry way
[07:24] <level1__> you know, you'd think when a motherboard manufacturer advertises that their motherboard has a raid controller, that it would actually do work
[07:24] <level1__> as opposed to, you know, telling windows to do work
[07:25] <level1__> apparently, asus just writes windows a note, saying "make sure to set up raid kthx"
[07:25] <Codyman> i just installed the nvidia-glx package, ran a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now it refuses to start saying that I have no screens found and a parse error on line 82 which is "subsection"
[07:26] <DaSkreech> level1__: Ha ha :)
[07:26] <level1__> DaSkreech: its not very funny when a 2000$ computer is harder to use than a 500$ computer
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> that doesn't sound good
[07:26] <level1__> DaSkreech: next time I'm going to buy the cheapest toshiba I can find
[07:27] <DaSkreech> level1__: What's the Raid Chipset?
[07:27] <level1__> DaSkreech: its called Chipset "Lets pretend I'm an actually raid controller"
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Sounds good
[07:28] <level1__> JMicron JMB363
[07:28] <dmuser> Can anyone tell me how to emerge SDL?
[07:28] <level1__> if my "JMicron" raid controller doesn't actually do raid, what does it do?
[07:29] <level1__> does it host yoga classes?
[07:29] <level1__> does it manage the blinking on VCR clocks?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> dmuser: Wrong chan?
[07:29] <klobster> not at my gym, but my GF mentioned a j someone
[07:29] <DaSkreech> !doesn't work
[07:29] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:29] <dmuser> DaSkreech:  Maybe my question should have been, how do I install an rpm file in Kubuntu?
[07:29] <|TroubleMaker|> you found the controller that manages the blinking on VCR clocks??? can you ask it to make mine stop?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> dmuser: which RPM?
[07:30] <klobster> apt-get install alien
[07:30] <DaSkreech> klobster: Sush
[07:30] <dmuser> DaSkreech: SDL-1.2.12-1.i386.rpm
[07:30] <DaSkreech> !info sdl
[07:30] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !sdl
[07:31] <level1__> my computer is still accessing the hard drive, so i guess I force reboot it now
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <DaSkreech> bah
[07:31] <klobster> !libsdl
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <DaSkreech> dmuser: What are you trying to get running ?
[07:32] <dmuser> A linux port of Duke Nukem 3D :P
[07:33] <level1__> what is the "ro" for on grub menu options?
[07:33] <level1__> its a kernel option
[07:33] <klobster> info libsdl1.2-dev
[07:33] <DaSkreech> dmuser: Sweet
[07:34] <DaSkreech> dmuser: Which SLD does it use?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> SDL
[07:34] <dmuser> 1.2 and SDL mixer
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !info libsdl1.2debian
[07:35] <ubotu> libsdl1.2debian: Simple DirectMedia Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.11-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:35] <DaSkreech> You need that
[07:35] <dmuser> "sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian" ?
[07:35] <DaSkreech>  Yup
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !info libsdl-mixer1.2
[07:36] <ubotu> libsdl-mixer1.2: mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.6-1.1build1 (feisty), package size 132 kB, installed size 332 kB
[07:36] <DaSkreech> and that
[07:37] <level1__> hmmm... my wireless card doesn't even seem to appear on lspc9i
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Sorry should have just made you do both of them the same time
[07:37] <level1__> btw, I got to kde, so i guess, thats went well
[07:37] <DaSkreech> level1__: Great :)
[07:38] <level1__> okay, so I got this wireless card because my mother board didn't come with wireless.  But it doesn't seem to show up on lspci.  Is it possible its physically dislodged of physically broken?
[07:38] <level1__> I mean, if the device could be recognized, something would show up, right?
[07:39] <level1__> its about a year old. I don't really remember who made it
[07:39] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: how goes?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[07:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:40] <DaSkreech> that should help with the digging
[07:41] <Codyman> does anyone know why I can't startx... it says that "subsection" is not a valid keyword
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Codyman: Played with your xorg.conf ?
[07:42] <|TroubleMaker|> ok an apt-cache search on samba shows only the samba-client samba-common and kdenetwork-filesharing (the howto was for dapper and says to "install samba using apt-get install samba witch doesnt appear to be a package listed for fiesty)
[07:42] <Codyman> DaKreech: installed nvidia-glx and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 'ed it
[07:42] <DaSkreech> !info samba
[07:42] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[07:42] <DaSkreech> |TroubleMaker|: it's there
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Codyman: Hmm sounds like something is wrong there then
[07:43] <Codyman> DaSkreech: Its referring to line 83.. so I go down there and its way it starts the subsection for display... the line goes: SubSection "Display" and its for the 1 bit depth...
[07:44] <Codyman> DaSkreech: and reconfiguring for "nv" or "vesa" gives same error
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Codyman: Does anywhere else say Subsection ?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Cause I'm pretty sure that should say Section
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[07:45] <DaSkreech>  no
[07:45] <DaSkreech>  SubSection
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Yeah that's right
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Yeah that's right
[07:46] <klobster> !quotes
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quotes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <phoenixz> DaSkreech, with Beryl / Compiz you mean?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> What's the line above
[07:46] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: yeah
[07:47] <phoenixz> DaSkreech, I find beryl to be faster... supposedly this is because of a hack, but who cares if the end result is so much more.. :) My computer simply isnt fast enough for Compiz and Beryl can give cools stuff with little CPU power
[07:47] <Codyman> DaSkreech: it goes:
[07:48] <Codyman> Subsection "Display" --> new line: Depth 1 ---> new line Subsection "Display" --> new line Modes ---> new line EndSubSection ... then repeats for other depths
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Really?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> that's not right
[07:48] <DaSkreech> There are no modes?
[07:49] <Codyman> there are modes
[07:49] <DaSkreech> no
[07:49] <Codyman> on the modes line are resolutions
[07:49] <DaSkreech> There is modes for a new subsection
[07:49] <DaSkreech> there is no EndSubSection for the First one
[07:49] <DaSkreech> count up the Subsection and end subsections
[07:49] <DaSkreech> they should be equal
[07:50] <Codyman> ok... yeah... I think I found a bug in tribes3 then...
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Codyman: Whoot!
[07:50] <DaSkreech> THat will go against bulletProox X
[07:51] <josue> hola
[07:52] <josue> mmmhh
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Codyman: got it fixed ?
[07:53] <Codyman> DaSkreech: BINGO... got it... startx is working... after SubSection for depth, no EndSubSection is put down before the new SubSection for modes....
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Exactly
[07:53] <DaSkreech> well bug it
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !bug
[07:53] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:54] <DaSkreech> though it's honestly probably fixed aleady
[07:54] <josue> m,m
[07:54] <Codyman> DaSkreech: Yeah, I'll look around and see if its filed... but at least it was an easy fix
[07:54] <josue> mexico??
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Codyman: bugs.ubuntu will tell you
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !es
[07:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:55] <DaSkreech> mexico does speak spanish last time I recalled
[07:55] <DaSkreech> .o0(I'ts late leave me alone)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Night all
[07:55] <DaSkreech> josue: Ok?
[07:56] <Noldoaran> how can I get the 'write' and 'wall' commands to work?
[07:56] <dmuser> Ugh.  I can't remember the command to install a .deb file
[07:56] <Noldoaran> dmuser: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[07:57] <dmuser> Noldoaran:  Thanks
[07:57] <Noldoaran> No problem
[08:04] <belred> has anyone installed phpbb or usebb on kubuntu? any preference?
[08:05] <nzk> Can Kaffiene use subtitles?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> nzk: I think
[08:06] <DaSkreech> belred: What's usebb?
[08:06] <nzk> How do I specify where the .srt title is?
[08:06] <nzk> I am watching a foreign po...movie and I want to add the subtitles.
[08:07] <SonhadorPR> dude...porn is porn....oohh, ahhh, is all the same!!!
[08:07] <belred> DaSkreech: looks like it competes with phpbb... http://www.usebb.net/
[08:07] <sickb0y> So you can rude the clever dialogue, and be moved by it?
[08:07] <sickb0y> err, read
[08:07] <nzk> Damn you humorless people
[08:07] <nzk> It's a joke
[08:07] <sickb0y> :)
[08:08] <SonhadorPR> hehehehe
[08:08] <sickb0y> Keep the .srt file in the same location as the movie
[08:08] <nzk> It is.
[08:08] <Codyman> DaSkreech: sweet 3d is working now... question though... I notice 3d is rendering fine/fast on my 5500fx... but 2d stuff such as loading new windows / opening / closing / maximizing windows seems to lag a bit sometimes... just overall not too snappy when it comes to 2d.. any suggestions?
[08:08] <sickb0y> Hmm...
[08:09] <nzk> Drag and dropping the .srt into the kaffiene window will seemingly crash it
[08:10] <nzk> Can VLC play .mkv?
[08:11] <nzk> No effin' way.
[08:11] <nzk> VLC did it.
[08:11] <nzk> Screw Kaffiene
[08:11] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:11] <DaSkreech> kaffeinfe has a subtitle section in settings i think
[08:11] <SonhadorPR> Is anyone having problems connecting to IRC using chatzilla(firefox app), X-Chat, KSIRC, or any other app, other than Konversation?
[08:12] <lockd> SonhadorPR: I'm on windows but using irssi
[08:12] <ron7909> hi, looking for a little help with Ubuntu Server
[08:12] <SonhadorPR> I mean on ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:13] <nzk> I hope my wireless connection won't lag trying to stream a legally obtained 1080p movie
[08:13] <sickb0y> VLC rocks
[08:13] <nzk> SonhadorPR: eye argh ess ess eye
[08:13] <lockd> SonhadorPR: putty to ubuntu box, have no problems
[08:13] <ron7909> anyone familiar with installing/configuring Ubuntu Server and willing to help a new user?
[08:14] <nzk> ron7909: State your problem to nzk.
[08:14] <SonhadorPR> see the thing is that none of the ones Ive mentiones, except Konversation...is connecting...and...Konversation only connects to freenode, not any ohter
[08:14] <ron7909> It's silly really
[08:14] <nzk> SonhadorPR: PEBKAC
[08:14] <ron7909> I just installed on my x86 box
[08:14] <ron7909> and when it reboots
[08:14] <lockd> sickb0y: yeah, vlc is nice.. how's it stack up against mplayer?
[08:14] <SonhadorPR> I think theres something wrong in the FireWall or something...I dont know how to make them connect...
[08:14] <ron7909> I have no GUI to login
[08:14] <ron7909> just a command line
[08:14] <nzk> ron7909: I don't believe such an obscure architecture is supported
[08:15] <nzk> ron7909: that's not an error
[08:15] <nzk> you don't need a GUI
[08:15] <ron7909> is there no GUI for the server edition?
[08:15] <sickb0y> I prefer VLC
[08:15] <nzk> Why would a server waste RAM and CPU cycles on a GUI?
[08:15] <nzk> not to mention most servers are headless (no videocard_
[08:15] <nzk> s/_/)
[08:15] <lockd> ron7909: you must be mistaking X server for "web/etc" server
[08:15] <ron7909> I am not familiar with setting up shares and such in the command line
[08:15] <DaSkreech> ron7909: no there isn't
[08:15] <nzk> ron7909: Set up SSH
[08:16] <DaSkreech> ron7909: that's why we are here to help
[08:16] <nzk> forward your ports
[08:16] <DaSkreech> ron7909: are you in irc from the command line?
[08:16] <ron7909> using another machine
[08:16] <nzk> SonhadorPR: it's some sort os user error
[08:16] <level1__> Hi, I'm trying to run adept, and everytime I do, after I type in my passwork, it says "conversation with su failed"
[08:16] <nzk> ron7909: just install SSH on the server
[08:16] <nzk> then tuck it away somewhere
[08:16] <nzk> And configure it from the machine you're on
[08:17] <ron7909> can i find docs on using installing SSH with the command line on the Ubuntu site?
[08:17] <lockd> ron7909: what os is the machine you are on?
[08:17] <arun> anyone here use bittornado?
[08:17] <nzk> Who cares, all support SSH
[08:17] <ron7909> I am using YDL on a G4 Cube
[08:17] <drgeb> hi
[08:17] <nzk> arun: You know that program has a tracking bug in it?
[08:17] <nzk> The RIAA and MPAA know where you are
[08:17] <DaSkreech> ron7909: is it on the net?
[08:17] <arun> ah
[08:17] <drgeb> everytime I reboot my fdisk -l looks different how can I fix this
[08:17] <nzk> Not to mention it's a ghastly windows program, not at all supported by KDE
[08:18] <DaSkreech> arun: Ktorrent?
[08:18] <arun> i dont use it, was going to though. thanks for the warning
[08:18] <nzk> utorrent 1.6.1 or less
[08:18] <SonhadorPR> ok I just installed the IRSSI...let me go see if it works
[08:18] <ron7909> are you asking if it has internet access?
[08:18] <ron7909> "on the net"?
[08:18] <nzk> On the NETwork
[08:18] <nzk> Doi
[08:18] <ron7909> yes
[08:18] <ron7909> it is on the net
[08:18] <nzk> The interNET or NETwork?
[08:19] <nzk> You have to be specific
[08:19] <ron7909> both
[08:19] <arun> one of the torrents i am downloading *has* to be downloaded using either azureus or bittornado. i've been downloading it using azureus, but it's been stuck for a week now. no progress. speeds were fine before that. i was just wondering if i used bittornado, would it be able to continue from where azureus left off
[08:19] <ron7909> I can check the local ip
[08:19] <nzk> arun: Yes, but don't bother. Az you can trust as it's FOSS, but Bittornado is very shady
[08:19] <arun> ah
[08:19] <arun> i won't install bittornado then
[08:20] <nzk> Do you have seeders on it?
[08:20] <arun> yes it shows seeders, but i cant download from any of them
[08:20] <nzk> Muck around in the settings, make sure ports are forwarded, #azureus, etc.
[08:20] <arun> it was working great until about a week ago
[08:20] <arun> i didnt change anything
[08:20] <nzk> If that doesn't work, then just modify something to spoof Az peer_id
[08:20] <arun> nzk: what do you mean
[08:20] <nzk> arun: Just go to Az's channel and ask them, they can help better than us
[08:20] <ron7909> maybe I am a bit too inexperienced to use Ubuntu Server
[08:21] <ron7909> I was trying it as an alternative to Windows 2000 Server
[08:21] <arun> nzk: thanks
[08:21] <nzk> arun: the peer_id is the thing ("Azureus 1.3.6") that identifies the client to the tracker, but you can change that (I think) in other OSS clients, but I doubt that it will help
[08:21] <nzk> ron7909: Everyone was a noob at one point
[08:22] <arun> nzk: any idea how to change the peer_id in ktorrent?
[08:22] <nzk> if you give up just because something is too difficult then you will never learn
[08:22] <nzk> arun: ask them, not me
[08:22] <ron7909> yeah, but i don't want to waste anyone's time or frustrate them with my lack of command line knowledge
[08:22] <SonhadorPR> okthe IRSSI is not connecting to any servers....
[08:22] <SonhadorPR> neither is THIS konversation connecting to any DalNet servers
[08:22] <nzk> SonhadorPR: type /server irc.xxx.xxx
[08:22] <nzk> or /connect
[08:22] <arun> alright, thanks for your help
[08:22] <nzk> Actually, go into #irssi
[08:23] <SonhadorPR> its not connecting....
[08:23] <nzk> Ask them, they can help more than I
[08:23] <nzk> SonhadorPR: ask #irssi.
[08:23] <level1__> theres something wrong with my kdesu. I just installed today, and everytime I try to do something that requires kdesu, it says "Conversation with su failed"
[08:23] <nzk> level1__: Last time it was adept
[08:23] <nzk> Make up your mind
[08:23] <level1__> nzk: well, you cant run adept without kdesu
[08:24] <nzk> Duh
[08:24] <level1__> nzk: and at the time, adept was the only program I had tried
[08:24] <level1__> nzk: listen, bud
[08:24] <nzk> If you're about to be rude I'd recommend against it
[08:24] <level1__> nzk: obviously, I figured out in the last few minutes that kdesu was the problem
[08:24] <level1__> nzk: why?  what are you going to do to me? your alread being rude
[08:25] <lockd> your scaring me about switching to kubuntu..
[08:25] <level1__> lockd: usually, people are more freindly than nzk
[08:25] <nzk> I am friendly, chief.
[08:26] <lockd> does kubuntu use network-manager?
[08:26] <lockd> if I can set up my keychain pam I'm happy
[08:26] <DaSkreech> ron7909:
[08:26] <nzk> I think so, it sounds familiar
[08:26] <DaSkreech> on the server type sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:27] <DaSkreech> lockd: yup
[08:27] <nzk> ron7909: sudo means "super user do" which lets you run one command as a super user, or root, or admin. Apt is the package manager for *buntu and the way to download is apt-get. To install the program you type apt-get install, and then the program name.
[08:27] <lockd> DaSkreech: thanks
[08:28] <lockd> you mean 'sudo apt-get install' right? no root login by default
[08:28] <lockd> or does server edition enable that?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> no root login
[08:30] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Gone?
[08:31] <DaSkreech> level1__: How are you running KDEsu ?
[08:31] <ron7909> here
[08:31] <ron7909> trying to install ssh
[08:32] <ron7909> won't recognize the "gedit" command
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ron7909: ha ha try nano
[08:32] <ron7909> used this: # sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:32] <ron7909> went okay
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ron7909: try sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:33] <ron7909> but when using this: # sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:33] <ron7909> it wouldn't go
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ron7909: use nano instead of gedit
[08:33] <lockd> ron7909: there's no gedit on a non graphical system
[08:33] <lockd> DaSkreech: beat me to it
[08:33] <ron7909> I will try package irssi has no installation candidate
[08:34] <ron7909> okay
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ron7909: duh :)
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ok do your nano thing first
[08:34] <ron7909> k
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ping me when you are done
[08:34] <DaSkreech>  I'm going in 10 minutes so I'm going to get you as much help as possible
[08:35] <ron7909> thanks
[08:35] <ron7909> whoa
[08:35] <DaSkreech> ron7909: The instructions at the bottom of nano are ^X
[08:35] <ron7909> got a whole bunch of info after the nano command
[08:35] <DaSkreech> ^O
[08:35] <DaSkreech> the ^ means ctrl
[08:35] <ron7909> yeah
[08:36] <ron7909> I see all of this
[08:36] <DaSkreech> So that's Ctrl+X
[08:36] <ron7909> k
[08:37] <ron7909> where do i start with these commands?
[08:37] <ron7909> am I modifying the previous text with it?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> ron7909: the nano commands?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> ron7909: you type and do what you like
[08:37] <ron7909> talks about listening on port 22
[08:37] <ron7909> listen address
[08:37] <DaSkreech> ron7909: What are you trying to do
[08:38] <ron7909> enable ssh to setup shares
[08:38] <ron7909> since I have no GUI
[08:38] <DaSkreech> ron7909: You did apt-get install openssh-server
[08:38] <ron7909> from the same machine?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> On the server
[08:39] <level1__> Hi, what is the kde equivelent to the "restricted drivers manager" in gnome?
[08:39] <ron7909> I am entering all of the commands on the server machine
[08:39] <DaSkreech> level1__: I think it is the restricted drivers manager
[08:39] <level1__> in otherwords, how do I enable restricted devices in kubuntu
[08:39] <level1__> DaSkreech: well, how do I run it?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> ron7909: wel then ssh server is already setup to listen on port 22
[08:39] <DaSkreech> level1__: it's not installed by default
[08:39] <ron7909> so i can login from another machine?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> ron7909: yes
[08:40] <DaSkreech> level1__: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[08:40] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Ok
[08:41] <DaSkreech> is it a hassle to work from the server ?
[08:41] <ron7909> no
[08:41] <ron7909> I am just not very comfy with command line
[08:41] <ron7909>  this is new territory for me
[08:41] <DaSkreech> ron7909: On the server try sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:41] <DaSkreech> ron7909: I know it's strange for a while :)
[08:41] <ron7909> k
[08:41] <arun> can anyone tell me how to get that big analog clock to show up on my desktop
[08:42] <DaSkreech> ron7909: If you are on tomorrow I can teach you a bunch of things to help
[08:42] <ron7909> when I type, it is going right into the previous text
[08:42] <DaSkreech> arun: Where did  you see said big analog clock ?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> ron7909: did you leave nano ?
[08:42] <ron7909> it says # Package generated configuration file
[08:42] <DaSkreech> >_<
[08:42] <lockd> ron7909: I use command line for most stuff now, but not familiar with server configs
[08:42] <DaSkreech> ron7909: press Ctrl+X
[08:43] <ron7909> okay
[08:43] <ron7909> so exit nano
[08:43] <DaSkreech> It will ask you to save. Say no
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:43] <ron7909> still says irssi has no installation candidate
[08:44] <DaSkreech> right right
[08:44] <DaSkreech> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <arun> DaSkreech: i think it's a widget of some sort
[08:44] <DaSkreech> arun: Duh :) where did you see it
[08:45] <DaSkreech> ron7909:  you are looking for a line that looks like deb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe
[08:45] <ron7909> i got that
[08:45] <DaSkreech> It will have a # in front of it
[08:45] <ron7909> but it is breezy badger
[08:45] <arun> DaSkreech: I saw it in some screenshots on kde-look.org
[08:45] <DaSkreech> remove the #
[08:45] <curtis_> hello everyone
[08:45] <curtis_> i just turned on my pc and started browsing the net where i found my connection is extremly low! i looked into firestarter active connections to see whts going on i found 2 sites downloading and using up most of my bandwidth.. these 2 sites are "auckland.ubuntu.com & leningradskaya.canonical.com "
[08:46] <DaSkreech> You can add a space and the word multiverse at the end of the line
[08:46] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Exit and save
[08:46] <DaSkreech> arun: Give me the URL
[08:46] <curtis_> anyone could help me out with this! am i cracked!
[08:46] <DaSkreech> ron7909: That's fine
[08:47] <DaSkreech> ron7909: exited and saved after removing the # ?
[08:47] <arun> I think it was superkaramba or something like that
[08:47] <ron7909> file name to write /etc/apt.sources.list?
[08:48] <ron7909> that is what I have after removing the #
[08:48] <ron7909> and selecting Y to save
[08:48] <DaSkreech> ron7909: not /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> there are three / right
[08:48] <sickb0y> probably just downloading updates
[08:48] <ron7909> oops
[08:48] <DaSkreech> arun: then get superkaramba
[08:48] <ron7909> you are right
[08:49] <DaSkreech> ok that's right
[08:49] <ron7909> so i hit "eneter"?
[08:49] <ron7909> enter\
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:49] <ron7909> wrote 37 lines
[08:49] <DaSkreech> cool
[08:50] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:50] <DaSkreech> that should get you a long list of things server type things downloading
[08:50] <DaSkreech> ron7909: You are familar with repos ?
[08:51] <ron7909> failed to fetch one
[08:51] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Hmm
[08:51] <ron7909> I am not, sry
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Which one?
[08:51] <nzk> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get install irssi
[08:51] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Ok there are essentially Free software and none free software
[08:52] <DaSkreech> ron7909: so they are separated
[08:52] <nzk> Non free is ones that are free
[08:52] <nzk> as in beer
[08:52] <ron7909> archive.ubuntu.com.ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/sources.gz
[08:52] <nzk> but not free as in cognac
[08:52] <ron7909> 404 not found
[08:52] <nzk> Understand?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> ron7909: there is also supported software and none supportes
[08:52] <nzk> Breezy is mad old
[08:52] <ron7909> k
[08:52] <nzk> Feisty is what you need
[08:53] <ron7909> I did not see a feisty Server Edition
[08:53] <ron7909> so i used breezy
[08:53] <nzk> ...
[08:53] <nzk> Install Feisty
[08:53] <nzk> From ubuntu.com
[08:53] <ron7909> alright
[08:53] <DaSkreech> ron7909: so there are 4 types of software free/supported, free/not supported, non free/supported and non free/not supported
[08:53] <ron7909> I will look
[08:53] <nzk> Breezy is like, 2 years old
[08:53] <ron7909> right
[08:54] <DaSkreech> ron7909: want the link to the feisty server ediotion ?
[08:54] <ron7909> daskreech: I'm with ya
[08:54] <DaSkreech> edition even
[08:54] <nzk> DaSkreech: why not give him the Hasty server edition?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> nzk: Quiet you :)
[08:54] <ron7909> is ediotion unsupported?
[08:54] <ron7909> and editoin supported?
[08:55] <nzk> Yes
[08:55] <ron7909> oops, edition
[08:55] <ron7909> heh heh
[08:55] <nzk> Only Edition is supported
[08:55] <ron7909> right
[08:55] <DaSkreech> ron7909: what I just did with Universe is added free unsupported software
[08:55] <DaSkreech> nzk: Please be quiet if you are not being helpful
[08:55] <matthew> hi everyone, i have a question about kaffeine codecs if anyone can help
[08:55] <nzk> Breezy stopped being supported
[08:55] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Do you want the link to the Feisty Server CD?
[08:55] <nzk> DaSkreech: Hasty Hare is the newest edition, is it not?
[08:56] <ron7909> I am looking at the site now
[08:56] <ron7909> 7.04 is feisty, no?
[08:56] <nzk> Argh, nevermind
[08:56] <nzk> ron7909: Yes.
[08:56] <DaSkreech> nzk: yes but edition is not a type of ubunut and there is no hasty hare
[08:56] <DaSkreech> ron7909: yes
[08:56] <xevious> ack.
[08:56] <nzk> DaSkreech: "release"?
[08:56] <xevious> irc client being weird
[08:56] <nzk> "version"?
[08:56] <ron7909> hasty hare.  nice
[08:56] <DaSkreech> nzk: Ok :)
[08:56] <xevious> i'm trying to install Adaptec Storage Manager in kubuntu. Adaptec Storage Manager is prebuild for Redhat EL and SuSE Professional/Enterprise.  I converted the rpm to a tgz, and i've gotten the GUI to run, but the daemon has some precompiled libraries that depend on libstdc++-6.1-1.so.2, whereas my system has libstdc++.so.6.0.8. it loads up, but thinks my system doesn't have the raid controller. is it possible to relink it to the libstdc+
[08:56] <xevious>  the version that it's expecting and install that too?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> ron7909: I know it's amusing but confusing right now :)
[08:57] <nzk> xevious: Yes/
[08:57] <xevious> nzk: grab the rpm?
[08:57] <ron7909> right
[08:57] <ron7909> if i d-load 7.04
[08:57] <DaSkreech> xevious: which version of Ubuntu are you running ?
[08:57] <nzk> xevious: Whatever floats your boat, I'm not the one to ask this to.
[08:57] <ron7909> will it have client and server editions in one?
[08:57] <nzk> ron7909: dupload?
[08:57] <ron7909> like breezy?
[08:57] <xevious> DaSkreech: kubuntu feisty fawn
[08:58] <nzk> Just download it
[08:58] <ron7909> d-load
[08:58] <nzk> Download
[08:58] <nzk> DL or Download.
[08:58] <nzk> Not d-load. the hyphen can be a wildcard and can confurse others
[08:58] <ron7909> k
[08:58] <DaSkreech> ron7909: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[08:59] <tmske_> Hi, I want to update kubuntu to gutsy with update-manager -c -d, but I don't see an option to upgrade to gutsy, any ideas?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Ok can you press up on the server till you see the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irrsi command again ?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> while you download this new server :)
[09:00] <ron7909> k
[09:00] <ron7909> yes, i can
[09:00] <DaSkreech> ron7909: let me know if that package fails again
[09:01] <ron7909> failed
[09:01] <DaSkreech> does it say archive.ubuntu.com.ubuntu  ?
[09:01] <ron7909> yes
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:02] <ron7909> then /diss/breezy/universe/sources/sources.gz
[09:02] <DaSkreech> press up to go back to the nano /etc/apt/sources.list command
[09:02] <xevious> DaSkreech: do you know if libstdc++ is the same as libstdc++-2?
[09:02] <ron7909> dists
[09:02] <ron7909> missed a t
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Figured
[09:02] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Look at the universe line and tell me if it says ubuntu.com.ubuntu
[09:03] <DaSkreech> xevious: as far as I know libstdc++ is always the newest one whereas those with numbers are the respective releases
[09:04] <nzk> tmske_: I don't know.
[09:04] <ron7909> failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu.............
[09:04] <nzk> -_-
[09:04] <DaSkreech> tmske_: gutsy is not a release
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Please ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:04] <nzk> DaSkreech: Stop nitpicking about words
[09:04] <DaSkreech> nzk: It's not nitpicking it won't upgrade because it is not a release
[09:05] <DaSkreech> that's the technical reason why it won't work
[09:05] <DaSkreech> When it's released it will work
[09:05] <DaSkreech> Until then he (assuming tmske_ is a he) will have to upgrade manually
[09:05] <DaSkreech> not that hard :)
[09:06] <DaSkreech> ron7909: grrr
[09:06] <nzk> DaSkreech: SEXIST. What is tmske_ is a she? HUH?!
[09:07] <DaSkreech> ron7909: I'm going to go now but I can leave you with something to read to help you in the command line
[09:07] <DaSkreech> !cli | ron7909
[09:07] <ubotu> ron7909: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:07] <nzk> ron7909: I can help you while he is gone.
[09:07] <DaSkreech> nzk: Which is why I made the allowance that I could be mistaken by my assumption
[09:07] <ron7909> thanks daskreech
[09:08] <DaSkreech> ron7909: One last thing before I go
[09:08] <DaSkreech> on the server press Alt+ctrl+F2
[09:08] <DaSkreech> You will get a new login screen
[09:08] <nzk> DaSkreech: Stopit ;)
[09:08] <nzk> Bah, stupid hilighting
[09:08] <tmske> DaSkreech: I know gutsy is not yet released, but I thought it was possible of upgrading with update-manager
[09:08] <DaSkreech> ron7909: If you press Alt+Ctrl+F1 You will get back your first screen
[09:08] <nzk> Autocompletion*
[09:08] <nzk> tmske: #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <ron7909> from where I am now?
[09:09] <tmske> nzk: thanks, I'll try there
[09:09] <DaSkreech> tmske: it is but you have to tell it to move to gutsy but changing your sources.list yourself. it will not flag it automatically until it's released
[09:09] <ron7909> whoa, F2 took me back to login
[09:09] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Yes
[09:09] <ron7909> F1 did nothing
[09:09] <DaSkreech> try alt+ctrl+F1
[09:09] <ron7909> ahhh
[09:09] <ron7909> a toggle
[09:10] <DaSkreech> You have multiple terminals you can log into
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Go through F3 F4 F5
[09:10] <DaSkreech> You will see the TTy at the top change number to reflect that
[09:10] <ron7909> i see
[09:11] <ron7909> multiple logins?
[09:11] <DaSkreech> ron7909: You have multiple logins at one time so that you can have something full screen and can do work elsewhere
[09:11] <DaSkreech> ron7909: Right
[09:11] <ron7909> but i am fullscreen the whole time
[09:11] <ron7909> since I am in the command line since login
[09:11] <DaSkreech> ron7909: When you install irssi use  nano and edit /etc/apt/sources.list to take off the # from that same line
[09:12] <ron7909> k
[09:12] <DaSkreech> ron7909: do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi
[09:12] <DaSkreech> When irssi installs you can type irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[09:12] <DaSkreech> then you can IRC from the command line and run commands from Alt+Ctrl+F2
[09:12] <DaSkreech> so you don't ahve to walk back and forth
[09:13] <ron7909> interesting
[09:13] <DaSkreech> ron7909: I will be on tomorrow and can help you more then
[09:13] <ron7909> I have 5 machines sitting around me
[09:13] <ron7909> heh
[09:13] <ron7909> no walking
[09:13] <ron7909> but I like that tip
[09:13] <DaSkreech> In the mean time while the cd downloads try out things from the URL I sent you
[09:13] <ron7909> i will
[09:13] <ron7909> thanks
[09:13] <DaSkreech> You can mess up the box as bad as you want since you are reinstalling anyway :)
[09:13] <ron7909> I really appreciate the help
[09:13] <ron7909> and patience
[09:15] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) nzk: I could guess I meant to battling with me on IRC :)
[09:16] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) Hobbsee: How are you?
[09:16] (nzk/#kubuntu) DaSkreech: ...
[09:16] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) ron7909: Wish you the best
[09:16] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) :-)
[09:16] (DaSkreech/#kubuntu) night nzk
[09:16] (nzk/#kubuntu) Night
[09:16] (harmental/#kubuntu) hey guys...how can put the trash bin on the desktop?
[09:17] <kraut> moin
[09:17] <nzk> harmental: I guess make a shortcut to ~/.trash/ (I believe)
[09:17] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: good. surprised to see nzk here though
[09:17] <nzk> Why?
[09:17] <nzk> I use KDE now.
[09:17] <Hobbsee> nzk: thought you were barred from all freenode channels
[09:17] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:17] <nzk> Hobbsee: All _freenode_? Naw. Only #ubuntu and -offtopic.
[09:18] <Hobbsee> nzk: sorry, all *ubuntu* channels
[09:18] <nzk> Hobbsee: ;)
[09:18] <DaSkreech> And you really shouldn't be sexist then :)
[09:18] <nzk> Only the ones that I misbehave in.
[09:19] <ron7909> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:19] <ron7909> didn't bring anything up
[09:19] <nzk> ron7909: I can help you out
[09:19] <ron7909> within termianl
[09:19] <ron7909> terminal
[09:19] <DaSkreech> ron7909: hmm
[09:19] <ron7909> I was just going to read  the guide
[09:19] <ron7909> for starters
[09:19] <Hobbsee> nzk: well, you know teh logic.  behave in this one, and i wont throw you out :)
[09:20] <nzk> Hobbsee: :D
[09:20] <DaSkreech> try w3m https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:20] <ron7909> maybe I should just paste into browser?
[09:20] <nzk> ron7909: I can help you out if you don't get anything
[09:20] <DaSkreech> ron7909: that works as well
[09:20] <lockd> harmental: probably copy kde/share/apps/systemview/trash.desktop to ~/Desktop
[09:20] <nzk> I'm quite good with the terminal
[09:20] <nzk> lockd: That's just the icon, is it not?
[09:20] <lockd> harmental: that's the .desktop file
[09:20] <ron7909> yeah, it liked that
[09:21] <ron7909> reading now
[09:21] <ron7909> thanks nzk
[09:21] <ron7909> I will do some reading and bug you guys n the flipside
[09:22] <nzk> :\ Konsole doesn't seem to support bolding
[09:22] <nzk> When I was hilighted in irssi the person's name used to be yellow and bolded, yet now it is not.
[09:22] <harmental> lockd: i only found usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-trash.desktop
[09:22] <ron7909> maybe didn't work because I am in YDL\
[09:22] <ron7909> sorry, no slash
[09:22] <Hobbsee> nzk: it does.  likely your irssi config has changed
[09:23] <nzk> harmental: ~/.Trash/
[09:23] <nzk> just make a shortcut to that
[09:23] <nzk> I can't help you about the icons, I have no idea where they are.
[09:24] <nzk> Hrm... How can I see this terminal and see my movie at the same time
[09:25] <nzk> The only problem with irssi is that I don't know of any way to indicate that I've been highlighted besides actually seeing the highlight. As in, no button thingy flashes on the taskbar like Xchat :(
[09:25] <Hobbsee> harmental: right click on desktop, create new --> link to URL, and put the url as Trash:/ - problem solved.
[09:26] <lockd> Hobbsee: didn't know you could just do it that way
[09:26] <Hobbsee> lockd: you can :)
[09:27] <lockd> Hobbsee: i suppose it has the right empty/full icon like the [Desktop Entry]  that usually comes default
[09:27] <Hobbsee> lockd: should do, yeah.
[09:28] <nzk> Damn my slow wireless connection, I can't stream my HD movie
[09:32] <harmental> Hobbsee: that worked great...but when i empty the bin there is no change in the icon.....(it always full)
[09:32] <Hobbsee> harmental: dont know the answer to that one
[09:33] <Assid> heya
[09:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> hey there in the kubuntu land :) was up today?
[09:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> hey Hobbsee, long time ago as we talk
[09:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> :)
[09:33] <Assid> err.. how do i make apt do 4 simultanous downloads per mirror ?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> hiya noaxess_kubuntu
[09:34] <topknot> Well I for one just installed Kubuntu and am having a look around
[09:34] <Assid> my connections kinda sucky.. it requires multiple downloads to help it go faster?
[09:34] <noaxess_kubuntu> Assid: have you the default repos?
[09:34] <Hobbsee> Assid: you cant.  oh actually, you can, i think, if you add multiple mirrors
[09:34] <noaxess_kubuntu> yea
[09:35] <noaxess_kubuntu> have no probs with my ch repos
[09:35] <Assid> Hobbsee: nah there is a way to change the number of max connections per mirror
[09:35] <noaxess_kubuntu> mirrors
[09:35] <Assid> i just dont know how
[09:35] <Hobbsee> Assid: suggestion:  man pages
[09:45] <ron7909> alright
[09:45] <ron7909> I am done
[09:45] <ron7909> going to bed now
[09:45] <ron7909> I'll be back
[09:46] <ron7909> later
[09:47] <josef> beryl how can i install themes in beryl
[09:47] <pag> josef, emerald theme manager -> import theme ?
[09:48] <josef> yes i did it but after i pointed where  the file is downloaded  there was nothing changed
[09:49] <nzk> #beryl
[09:49] <nzk> #ubuntu-effects
[09:50] <josef> you mean channel #beryl nzk
[09:51] <nzk> What else...?
[09:51] <tuxd_> hello.  I'm looking for some help with Kontact/Kitchensync function on Kubuntu Fiesty
[09:52] <josef> ok thanks nzk
[09:52] <nzk> Not to be mean, but why does KDE put a K instead of a C in all things that should have a C? Like Kontact, Kaffiene, etc. Reminds me of a certain... organization.
[09:52] <josef> #beryl
[09:52] <nzk> Yeah, they would help you better than us
[09:53] <josef> i hope so.
[09:53] <tuxd_> How do I sync my contacts from Kontact to my smartphone?
[09:53] <nzk> :\ not sure if that can be done
[09:54] <nzk> Or what protocol it would use
[09:54] <nzk> tuxd_: Which smartphone?
[09:54] <tuxd_> Sony Ericsson M600i
[09:54] <tuxd_> User guide says "Kitchensync" is used to sync
[09:54] <nzk> Hobbsee: what did the CTCP say?
[09:54] <nzk> I use Ubuntu with Kubuntu-desktop package installed
[09:55] <nzk> Since I sort of... killed GNOME.
[09:55] <nzk> I believe I fixed it, but I am afraid to restart X.
[09:55] <nzk> tuxd_: Google "kontact M600i"
[09:56] <tuxd_> nzk: have you ever used "kitchensyn" in Kontact? I don't even see the function
[09:56] <nzk> I don't use KDE apps, sorry.
[09:56] <Hobbsee> nzk: said you were using irssi.  try it yourself
[09:56] <tuxd_> OK.  Thanks
[09:56] <nzk> No problem.
[09:57] <nzk> Remember, when it doubt, JFGI and RTFM :D
[09:57] <pag> tuxd_, have you got kitchensync installed?
[09:58] <tuxd_> pag:  good question.  I haven't seen where it is on Kontact. Is it something that requires addtional installation?
[09:58] <nzk> Try to apt-get install it
[09:58] <nzk> If that doesn't work apt-cache search for it and install the relevant package
[09:58] <pag> tuxd_, it's not installed by default..
[09:59] <pag> !info kitchensync | tuxd_
[09:59] <ubotu> tuxd_: kitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 823 kB, installed size 2468 kB
[09:59] <Assid> hrmm.. black really isnt coming as black on my printer
[09:59] <Assid> its kinda light
[10:00] <tuxd_> pag, ubotu: thanks, downloading from adept mgr now
[10:00] <nzk> >:( Darn this wireless network, it can't stream my 5MB/s HD video
[10:01] <nzk> ubotu is a bot ;)
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <nzk> :|
[10:01] <nzk> I didn't mean that. I was telling him that ubotu is a bot.
[10:01] <tuxd_> OK.  lol
[10:02] <nzk> WWANA1T :)
[10:03] <nzk> We Were All Noobs At One Time
[10:04] <tuxd_> nzk: that's me now.  I want to wholly switch over and make everything "work"
[10:04] <tuxd_> nzk:  do I need to do anything special to install once it's downloaded from Adept?
[10:04] <nzk> Iuno, I've never used it
[10:06] <tuxd_> pag:  I've downloaded kitchensync from Adept.  Must I do anything else to install it?  I'm familiar with how to install programs on Windows, but new to Kubuntu
[10:06] <nzk> 'tis a sad time when I can get more download speed from a torrent than 20 feet over my wireless connection.
[10:06] <nzk> tuxd_: Just apt-get install
[10:06] <nzk> and it's installed
[10:06] <nzk> It's not a program but a framework
[10:06] <pag> tuxd_, Adept should do everything required by installation...
[10:06] <nzk> from then on you should be able to use Kontact to copy your Contacts
[10:07] <tuxd_> OK.  Thanks
[10:08] <Assid> stupid thing uses the color cartridge instad
[10:08] <tuxd_> pag:  does it give an icon or a list item in a drop-down menu?
[10:08] <nzk> It's a framework
[10:08] <nzk> Just use Kontact
[10:09] <pag> tuxd_, I don't know - never used it.
[10:11] <berkes> does anyone know when the next LTS release is planned?
[10:11] <pag> berkes, 8.04 will be
[10:11] <berkes> thansk
[10:12] <pag> dunno will it be 8.04 (it might be delayed as dapper was) but gutsy+1 in any case
[10:12] <jussi01> is build essential on the cd?
[10:13] <pag> jussi01, just a guess: no?
[10:13] <pag> jussi01, iirc I had to install it myself
[10:17] <jussi01> someone remind me how to get the build deps downloaded?
[10:17] <pag> jussi01, sudo apt-get build-dep package  ?
[10:17] <combo> hi @ll, i've just installed Kub.6.06[LTS]  and i have a problem with editing sources.list file?! :/  here it is:  http://wklej.org/id/a1c70b6773  can someone tell me what should i do ? :]
[10:18] <pag> !kdesu | combo
[10:18] <ubotu> combo: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:18] <nzk> combo sudo kate /etc/sources.list
[10:18] <jussi01> thnanks pag
[10:18] <nzk> Rrt
[10:18] <nzk> Err*
[10:18] <jussi01> gah
[10:18] <nzk> Nevermind
[10:18] <combo> pag: wait a sec..... sources.list is NOT a graphical file?
[10:18] <nzk> It's a text file
[10:18] <pag> combo, kate is a graphical app ;)
[10:18] <combo> i thought that KDESU use only for XORG.CONF
[10:18] <nzk> You can edit it anywya you want
[10:18] <combo> aaaaaaaa
[10:18] <nzk> ...
[10:19] <combo> this way
[10:19] <combo> crap :]
[10:19] <combo> ok, thx :)
[10:19] <combo> i was just wondering about that cuz NANO was working well :]
[10:19] <gsaldana> exit
[10:19] <nzk> You can use any text editor you want
[10:20] <nzk> Like my friend ED over here
[10:20] <combo> pag: may i ask u something? what edition of kub. do u use?
[10:20] <nzk> Or his pal *vi*
[10:20] <nzk> combo: Kubuntu.
[10:20] <nzk> Not Kub
[10:20] <pag> combo, vim all the way :)
[10:20] <combo> yes, but which versio?
[10:20] <combo> 7.04?
[10:20] <nzk> pag: Why vim?
[10:20] <nzk> It's anoying to use
[10:20] <pag> combo, oh.. edition.. sry; 7.04
[10:20] <nzk> s/anoying/annoying
[10:20] <combo> what is VIM ?
[10:20] <nzk> Visual Internet Machine...
[10:20] <nzk> Duh
[10:20] <jussi01> !info vim
[10:20] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu7.1 (feisty), package size 721 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[10:21] <pag> combo, vim is an editor - I misread your question, sorry
[10:21] <nzk> Just kidding ;)
[10:21] <combo> pag: ok :)
[10:22] <nzk> pag: is vIM had to use?
[10:22] <combo> pag: so FF... yesterday i had FF but i read on some polish site that (k)ubuntu is released (about) every 6 months, and programmers are going so fast with it, so it has many errors and the best version is LTS(6.06) with 5 years support - what do u thing 'bout that :)
[10:22] <pag> nzk, it has quite steep learning curve, but after you've learned it you won't want to use another editor :D
[10:24] <pag> combo, 6.06 is nice and stable, but most people just want new and shiny programms... and 7.04 isn't even *so* unstable - 6.10 was..
[10:24] <combo> .... - cuz programmers are not thinking about make a good OS but make it on time (which is very short - only 6 months)
[10:24] <beobal_> can anybody help with dual screen setup with i810?
[10:24] <topknot> nzk, pag is right after I learned vim I use it when ever possible
[10:24] <combo> pag: i see...
[10:25] <pag> combo, they're making as good OS as they can - can't really blame them for that.
[10:27] <combo> it is an opposite of MicroSoft - they release OS every feeeew years :) and not as good as it should be (e.g. VISTA) :]
[10:27] <combo> so u use always the newest version...
[10:29] <combo> WTF?! i just examine that in 7.04 (yesterday!) i use 'sudo' command for kate to edit 'sources.list'
[10:29] <combo> and it worked :/
[10:29] <combo> but maybe in 6.06 it hasn't worked YET :]
[10:29] <nzk> It works
[10:30] <nzk> But for some reason people don't recommend it
[10:30] <pag> combo, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and sometimes it mucks up your configs... one letter isnt really worth a risk.
[10:30] <kennethaar> hi
[10:30] <combo> ok, then. so i remember this usefull command called 'KDEsu' :)
[10:30] <pag> hello kalenedrael :)
[10:32] <robewald|work> hi, I can't connect to a pptp vpn, network manager always tells me that "validating options failed". How should I debug this?
[10:32] <kennethaar> so... In some distroes there is this neat function with a tekst field in the kmenu where I can type say: kwrite and the menu shows me where kwrite is located. Is this a package I can install?
[10:33] <nzk> I *really* need to clean out and organize my home folder
[10:34] <kennethaar> !disclaimer! This will delete everything: ctrl+a and the shift+del
[10:34] <kennethaar> ;-)
[10:34] <pag> kennethaar, will it delete hidden directories too?
[10:35] <kennethaar> hm let me see...
[10:35] <pag> kennethaar, iirc it'll delete them only if you have "show hidden files" enabled..
[10:35] <kennethaar> pag: spot on...
[10:36] <pag> kennethaar, but back to your problem; while not exactly the same, you could try using Katapult. It should be launched by default in feisty and can be accessed with alt+space
[10:37] <combo> pag: one more thing - can u tell me what is that last WARNING that i got http://wklej.org/id/cda8f13aac  ??
[10:37] <kennethaar> kool
[10:38] <pag> combo, it tries to open some file that probably doesn't exist.. doesn't look critical to me, so if all works as expected just ignore that
[10:39] <combo> pag: kk
[10:39] <kennethaar> hm how do I install envy from my desktop...
[10:39] <pag> !envy | kennethaar
[10:40] <ubotu> kennethaar: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:41] <kennethaar> I have tried cd'ing to the directory, and running: sudo apt-get install envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[10:41] <Carnage\> kennethaar: Use dpkg to install .deb-files
[10:41] <kennethaar> dpkg install?
[10:42] <pag> kennethaar, sudo dpkg -i
[10:42] <Carnage\> man dpkg as well :)
[10:42] <kennethaar> thanks, did the trick
[10:43] <nzk> Is it possible to use Dolphin right now?
[10:43] <kennethaar> hm nope, missing lots of dependencies... Is there an easier way?
[10:43] <kennethaar> 'nzk: sure
[10:43] <pag> !deb | kennethaar
[10:43] <ubotu> kennethaar: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:44] <kennethaar> thats not the problem... I got dependencies errors
[10:45] <pag> nzk, either install from the repos (older version) or https://marrat.homelinux.org/D3lphin for backported version
[10:45] <pag> kennethaar, sudo apt-get install -f
[10:46] <kennethaar> pag; well irt started to instal something atleast
[10:47] <kennethaar> May I ask what the command does?
[10:48] <nzk> kennethaar: Fixes dpkg
[10:48] <nzk> I've used it many times
[10:48] <kennethaar> thanks
[10:49] <kennethaar> Do I have to install envy again or will it just work now?
[10:50] <kennethaar> hm, not so stable eh?
[10:50] <pag> the package is installed now, if that's what you mean.
[10:50] <kennethaar> ok...
[10:51] <kennethaar> I tried installing the nvidiadriver an hour ago, I ended up reinstalling kubuntu...
[10:52] <kennethaar> I suspect Envy will do a better job tha me...
[10:53] <pag> kennethaar, sure it will... but when comes the next kernel update, you will probably end up with no X... there's a reason why all those auto-scripts aren't really reccomended
[10:53] <kennethaar> or is there a better way to set up nvidia and xorg?
[10:54] <kennethaar> shit...
[10:54] <kennethaar> That suxx
[10:54] <pag> kennethaar, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:55] <kennethaar> But wont setting it up manually also do that?
[10:56] <pag> kennethaar, not really - repos are updated with every kernelrelease, Envy doesn't iirc..
[10:56] <harmental> is it possible for Konsole two emulate the double buffer feature from emacs?
[10:58] <kennethaar>   E) What happens if the kernel is upgraded (e.g. via system updates)?  You will only have to follow these steps:  1) Restart your computer and the Xserver will crash (since it will lack a module).  Say No if the system asks you whether you want to see the output of the error to debug.  NOTE: press ALT+F1 if all you can see is a black screen  Then launch Envy's textual interface from the command line by typing:  (if you're using Ubuntu
[10:58] <kennethaar> This seems easy enough for me...
[11:01] <kennethaar> Yeeez this took a long time... Envy Is obviously envious of other peoples broadband connection right now.
[11:01] <shashidhar> anyone who has worked on schooltool
[11:03] <kennethaar> nope sorry
[11:04] <crube> I have an external HD, and when I shut it down the mount point is broken. It normally mount to /media/LACIE, but after being shut down and put on again it mount to /media/LACIE-1. Is there a way to get rid of this broken /media/LACIE mount so that my HD mounts back to /media/LACIE.
[11:05] <pag> crube, unmount it before shutting down?
[11:06] <crube> pag yeah that's what I usually do. It's just that I don't always remember to do it, and I have to restart my computer to fix it.
[11:07] <kennethaar> I miss sax
[11:08] <Maxdamantus> Sax as in saxophone?
[11:08] <Maxdamantus> Or some guy from here?
[11:09] <kennethaar> no as in suses xorg config tool
[11:09] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[11:09] <kennethaar> I wonder why ubuntu haven't ported YAST/sax to ubunto as it has been opensourced
[11:09] <kennethaar> /gpl'ed
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> How big is OpenSUSE on tar.bz2?
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> I wanna download it, using as little bandwidth as possible. :P
[11:11] <kennethaar> What do you mean
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> Which is the art of Gentoo. :P
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> Stage3 ftw
[11:11] <Maxdamantus> 104mb tar.bz2 => 600mb base Gentoo system
[11:12] <kennethaar> aha... The next release is gonna divide kde and gnome to livecds that are limited installs, no more need to download the DVD
[11:12] <Maxdamantus> I mean if you were to extract all hte files from the ISOs.
[11:12] <Maxdamantus> Into directories called cd1, cd2, etc
[11:13] <Maxdamantus> Then just went "tar -cf --bzip *" on them.
[11:13] <kennethaar> I see... Hm I havnt tried, but I seem to remember that all the rpms are about 3,2 GB
[11:14] <hasan> hi guys
[11:14] <hasan> i ve got a question
[11:14] <combo> is there possible to create a short in Kub.6.06[LTS]  that after clicking will show Desktop like in 7.04 ? :)
[11:14] <kennethaar> fire away
[11:14] <Maxdamantus> !anyone | hasan
[11:14] <ubotu> hasan: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:14] <hasan> my log on screeen incredibly large probably its resolution is higher tha normal
[11:14] <Maxdamantus> Wait, wrong one.
[11:14] <hasan> english is not my native language that's why i was trying to construct that question
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> hasan, what's your resolution defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:15] <hasan> how can i look at it  ?
[11:15] <hasan> in which line there are lots of resolution values
[11:15] <Maxdamantus> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <hasan> normally my resolution is 1152  864
[11:16] <Maxdamantus> Look for the 24 bit line probably, and see what order the resolutions are in.
[11:16] <nzk> What the hell? Either zsh or Konsole don't let me use wget
[11:16] <Maxdamantus> Laptop?
[11:16] <hasan> nope desktop but there are so many resolutionj values in xorg.conf
[11:17] <Maxdamantus> What's the first one on 24 bit?
[11:17] <Maxdamantus>                 Depth           24
[11:17] <Maxdamantus>                 Modes           "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:17] <Maxdamantus> Something like that.
[11:18] <hasan> modes "1024x768@85" "1024x768@75" "832x624@75" "1024x768@70" "800x600@60" "1024x768@60" "800x600@85" "1024x768@43" "800x600@75" "1152x864@75" "800x600@72" "1280x1024@75" "800x600@56" "1280x960@60" "640x480@85" "1280x960@85" "640x480@75" "1280x1024@85" "640x480@72" "1280x1024@60" "640x480@60" "1280x960@75" "1400x1050@60" "1400x1050@75" "1600x1200@65" "1600x1200@60" "1600x1200@75" "1600x1200@70" "1792x1344@60" "1856x1392@60" "1920x1440@60" "2048x1536@60"
[11:18] <hamadooo> hasan
[11:18] <Maxdamantus> Didn't even know you could set the hertz there.
[11:18] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[11:18] <hasan> hamadooo:?
[11:19] <hamadooo> how are you hasan
[11:19] <hasan> fine u ? and so ?
[11:19] <hamadooo> where r u from
[11:19] <hamadooo> im fine
[11:19] <hasan> Turkey
[11:19] <hasan> u
[11:19] <hamadooo> kuwait
[11:19] <hamadooo> nice name
[11:20] <hasan> its my name
[11:20] <hamadooo> we use this name also .. in kuwait
[11:20] <hasan> ;)
[11:20] <hamadooo> :>
[11:20] <hasan> i know of course
[11:20] <Maxdamantus> I have a cousin called Hasan.
[11:20] <hasan> or Hassan ?
[11:20] <Maxdamantus> Yea, Hassan.
[11:20] <hamadooo> max . where r u from
[11:20] <Maxdamantus> New Zealand.
[11:21] <Maxdamantus> But that family is in Morrocco.
[11:21] <Maxdamantus> Morocco*
[11:21] <hasan> if i had the job i would go there maxdamantus
[11:21] <hamadooo> :)
[11:21] <hasan> i had an interview last week in Turkey
[11:21] <Maxdamantus> What, to NZ, or Morocco?
[11:21] <hasan> to participate in project over voip infrastructre and iptv
[11:21] <hasan> but i wasn't qualified anyway
[11:21] <hasan> in new zelland or singapour
[11:22] <nzk> What do I need to do to make it such that the fonts in Firefox are normal?   I already have MSFTCOREFONTS installed
[11:22] <hasan> ctrl+ ++
[11:22] <hasan> to increase font size
[11:22] <hasan> ctrl + - to decreasse font size
[11:23] <nzk> hasan: ... I know
[11:23] <nzk> I mean by default.
[11:23] <combo> - how to create a shortcut to show Desktop (all other windows are minimized after click) ??
[11:23] <hasan> what about using win like keyboard layout ? win+d or win+minimize :)
[11:23] <Maxdamantus> combo, right click the panel.
[11:24] <Maxdamantus> Then Panel Menu > Add to Panel
[11:24] <combo> got it
[11:24] <combo> thanks a lot :D
[11:24] <Maxdamantus> Np.
[11:25] <Maxdamantus> Noo! Damn it.
[11:27] <nzk> Oh Konsole, why do you mock me so?
[11:27] <aldin> how do i make shadow like on this picture http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta1/marble_designer_plugin0_small.png in GIP or INkspace etc, so i have one pic and wanna put some wshadow on it
[11:27] <nzk> Enabling bold only makes everything BUT what I need bold bold.
[11:28] <pag> aldin, to applications or just a picture?
[11:29] <aldin> pag, i am making photostory, and want to make up my pics a bit
[11:29] <pag> aldin, which software are you using?
[11:30] <pag> gimp, krita or something else?
[11:30] <aldin> pag, i though to ask u for that, i have gimp installed
[11:30] <aldin> and inkspace
[11:30] <aldin> *inkscape
[11:30] <Maxdamantus> aldin, GIMP will be able to do that.
[11:30] <pag> aldin, its quite easy in gimp.
[11:30] <aldin> pag, Maxdamantus could u tell me how to do it, i will open some png image
[11:31] <Maxdamantus> Nope, not too great with GIMP, sorry.
[11:31] <pag> aldin, Script-Fu -> Shadow -> Drop Shadow
[11:31] <aldin> any other OSS graphical tool coudl do that
[11:31] <aldin> pag, i will try it in a minute
[11:33] <aldin> pag, thats it! thank u very very much!
[11:34] <pag> np :)
[11:34] <Ze_M> i have kmail instalad but i dont see any kmail icon, what the hell is going on?
[11:35] <Maxdamantus> Ze_M, is it running?
[11:35] <Ze_M> Maxdamantus: what that have todo???
[11:35] <aldin> Ze_M, i dont have kontact nor kmail icon in my KDE menus, it was in taskbar in quick luch...
[11:36] <pag> Ze_M, kmail can be found in kmenu -> internet -> kmail
[11:36] <Maxdamantus> Ze_M, probably something like "kmail" in the terminal, or else probably under internet in the menu,
[11:36] <aldin> pag, i cant find it there
[11:36] <Ze_M> pag: false
[11:36] <Ze_M> Maxdamantus: imaware of it, did you read what i said?
[11:36] <aldin> Maxdamantus, kmail in terminal works for me, but wanted to say that like in Ze_M's case it isnt in menus
[11:37] <Maxdamantus> Then add it to the menu.
[11:37] <Ze_M> Maxdamantus: lol
[11:37] <aldin> Maxdamantus, well thats not problem, problem is that it doesnt come by default could it be a bug?
[11:37] <Maxdamantus> aldin, maybe it's in a different menu.
[11:37] <Ze_M> kubuntu is just great, and kmail isnt the only app removed from kmenu, kubuntu continues sucking just better go back to good old mandriva distro
[11:38] <Maxdamantus> I like Thunderbird. :)
[11:38] <aldin> Maxdamantus, i looked everywhere, as ai said it used to be in my taskbar like quick launch, but i removed it from ktaskbar...
[11:39] <aldin> Ze_M, try Alt + F2 -> kmail
[11:39] <Ze_M> aldin: imalso ware of that, thts not the point
[11:40] <Maxdamantus> Ze_M, stop complaining and add it to the menu yourself.
[11:40] <aldin> Ze_M, , perhaps it is bug, go to launchpad.net and report it
[11:41] <Maxdamantus> The thing about Linux is that it doesn't do everything for you.
[11:41] <Maxdamantus> Which means you learn on the way.
[11:41] <Ze_M> no.i have seen many flaws in kubuntu like doesnt even have a control panel to configure the system, kmenu kubuntu sucks, going back to the good distro Mandriva
[11:41] <steve__> hi habe mir heute das ubuntu aufgesetzt und habe ein prob wegen wlan (suche schon die ganze nacht im www) realink (realteak) rt61 wlan ship (auch tutorial auf der ubuntu homepage dazu durch) jedoch bewerikt das ndern der /etc/ne.../interfaces nichts............. die karte luft aber ich kann mich nicht zu meine ac connecten auch ohne verschlsslung klappt es nicht.wei nicht was ich nach all dem lesen noch versuchen soll ich wre dankbar
[11:41] <steve__> fr einw enig hilfe auch wenn das ein sehr "beliebtes" problem ist
[11:42] <Maxdamantus>  <Ze_M> no.i have seen many flaws in kubuntu like doesnt even have a control panel to configure the system, kmenu kubuntu sucks, going back to the good distro Mandriva
[11:42] <aldin> Ze_M, mnadriva's menus are worst (IMHO) so small and deep...
[11:42] <Maxdamantus> It does have a control panel.
[11:42] <Ze_M> are what?? are simply way much better
[11:42] <Ze_M> doesnteven exist comparaation
[11:42] <Maxdamantus> And you can just install the default KDE, rather than Kubuntu KDE.
[11:42] <Maxdamantus> I like default better.
[11:43] <aldin> Ze_M, i had mandriva... smaller icons in kmenu, and to deep to go to some application
[11:43] <steve__> kann mir wer helfenbzw versteht mich hiereig wer ?
[11:43] <Ze_M> aldin: all apps are correctly in menus, and there arent menus missinglike here
[11:43] <aldin> stefan, go to #kubuntu-de
[11:43] <aldin> Ze_M, never mind suit urself as u want
[11:44] <Ze_M> what crap kubuntu
[11:44] <Ze_M> aldin: sorry
[11:44] <Ze_M> aldin: butimreally gg back to mandriva, much muich better
[11:44] <aldin> Ze_M, ok, then u know where are doors, -> #mandriva
[11:50] <nzk> ...
[11:50] <nzk> Kaffiene played a video fine, over the network
[11:50] <nzk> so did VLC
[11:50] <nzk> Now when it's here locally Kaffiene can't even play it and VLC plays it very choppy
[11:51] <nzk> Mplayer and gxine do the same thing
[11:58] <Assid> err.. can someone help me configure my desktop to look like : http://www.ubuntux.org/looking-dapper
[11:59] <Assid> what are those applets on the side
[11:59] <Maxdamantus> Assid, SuperKaramba
[12:00] <Maxdamantus> !superkaramba Assid
[12:00] <Maxdamantus> !superkaramba | Assid
[12:00] <ubotu> Assid: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[12:01] <Knight_Lord> I'm trying to make kmail filter by category, but no categories show up as available. What am i diong wrong?
[12:02] <boris_> hey
[12:02] <boris_> what is the command to update my dapper to edgy and then feisty ?
[12:03] <aldin> how to add some fonts in konsole, i would like the one that is on ttys1-6
[12:03] <aldin> boris_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but u will have to have feistys repositories set
[12:03] <aldin> google a bit u will find how to upgrade to feisty
[12:04] <Maxdamantus> alberg_, if I'm correct, that font is defined by the machine, not the operating system.
[12:04] <Maxdamantus> aldin*
[12:04] <Knight_Lord> How can i remove the apply filter from kmail?
[12:04] <aldin> Maxdamantus, i can choose only bitstreamed etc fonts but i used before helvetica or some.. dont know...
[12:09] <Knight_Lord> How often does kmail crash?
[12:10] <pag> Knight_Lord, never crashed here
[12:10] <Assid> hrmmi set firefox as the default browser
[12:10] <Assid> yet it seems to have an issue
[12:11] <Knight_Lord> I must be unlucky. 1 crash in 1 day
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> Thunderbird has never crashed on my ^_^
[12:12] <noaxess_kubuntu> what about googletalk in kopete.. i think it is the jabber protocol right?
[12:12] <noaxess_kubuntu> but i can't connect to the default server..
[12:13] <Knight_Lord> It crashes while applying filters
[12:15] <kennethaar> Argh...  Envy f**ked up my display too!
[12:15] <andersin> noaxess_kubuntu:http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[12:16] <andersin> noaxess_kubuntu:basically you need to override the server to talk.google.com
[12:17] <kennethaar> envy|
[12:17] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Kubuntu Dapper  and just received a gpg encrypted mail. The secret key needed to decrypt is in my keyring file but kmail just shows me a (blue) mail header "No decryption possible ... wrong passphrase". What do I have to do to get it working with kmail?
[12:19] <tank71> anyone around?
[12:19] <stdin> ask a question and see :)
[12:19] <Maxdamantus> Nope, I'm asquare
[12:20] <tank71> hey :)
[12:21] <tank71> well I have a this computer a server sitting on the ground I want to use this computer to ssh into the server on the ground...ssh is up and running on the server but when I try to connect is says port 22 connnection refused
[12:21] <tank71> any ideas?
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> tank71, then it's not working.
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> Are you sure SSH is running?
[12:21] <stdin> firewall ?
[12:22] <kennethaar> So long and thanx for all the fish. ;-)
[12:22] <tank71> yes
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> tackat, try SSHing to localhost from the box.
[12:22] <tank71> ya I have done that
[12:22] <tank71> it works
[12:22] <tackat> Maxdamantus: I won't ;)
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> Are you using an IP on the network?
[12:23] <tank71> yes
[12:23] <stdin> tank71: how are they connected together?
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> tackat, sorry, wrong person.
[12:23] <tank71> they are both plugged into the same router
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> Used to channels with like 50 people at most. :S
[12:23] <tank71> both connected to the internet
[12:23] <stdin> tank71: can you ping it?
[12:23] <tank71> ya...
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> tank71, try doing a port scan on it.
[12:24] <Maxdamantus> nmap <ip>
[12:24] <tank71> uhhh ok
[12:25] <LinuxHelp> Might I ask, I have enabled xdmcp in my kdmrc, but how do I add another computer (<IP_ADDRESS>) to my "allow" list?
[12:26] <LinuxHelp> When I connect from <IP_ADDRESS> it says "host not willing"
[12:26] <tank71> PORT    STATE SERVICE
[12:26] <tank71> 631/tcp open  ipp
[12:26] <tank71> hmmm
[12:26] <Maxdamantus> Are you sure it's the right IP?
[12:27] <stdin> tank71: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and make sure it's litening on the right address/interface
[12:27] <tank71> ok..
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> stdin, no.
[12:27] <tank71> no?
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> If it doesn't show on portscan, then it's unable to half open the socket.
[12:28] <tank71> ok so any idea why?
[12:28] <stdin> Maxdamantus: OR it may just not be listening on the right address
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> tank71, try ssh <ip> 631
[12:29] <stdin> 631 is ipp
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> Well maybe it's running on the wrong port.
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> tank71, maybe it's only binded to localhost.
[12:29] <stdin> hmm, isn't that what I said?
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> tank71, take a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:30] <tank71> ok I'll look
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> Oh, thought you meant port, sorry stdin :P
[12:30] <tank71> brb
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> tank71, if there are any "ListenAddress" uncommented, comment them out,
[12:30] <LinuxHelp> Can anyone read this?
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> LinuxHelp, read what?
[12:31] <stdin> tank71: if you want it to listen on all addresses/interfaces you'll want it to read "ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>"
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> stdin, <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost is it not?
[12:32] <stdin> Maxdamantus: no, <IP_ADDRESS> is all addresses
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> I have ListenAddress commented out.
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> And it works for all.
[12:33] <stdin> it could be bound to an IPv6 address too, I had trouble with that a while ago
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> What's the point of IPv6 over a private network?
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Doubt they have over 16m connections.
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> Oh, not as many reserved for internal use..
[12:35] <stdin> it helps if you have a large net, accross multiple subnets
[12:38] <tank71> I left the listenaddress commented out too
[12:38] <tank71> but other than that
[12:38] <tank71> I didnt see anything
[12:38] <tank71> should I un-comment out the listenaddress lines?
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> tank71, restart the sshd, and try connecting to it.
[12:38] <tank71> I did restart it...and still cant connect
[12:39] <stdin> tank71: try uncommenting the ListenAddress then, and try setting it to "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[12:39] <tank71> ok
[12:39] <tank71> brb
[12:42] <tank71> it would need to be restarted for changes to take effect huh brb...
[12:44] <nicolai_> What Firefox plugin is it that allows you to direct downloads to Kget?
[12:44] <runlevelten> Oh, there is one.
[12:44] <nicolai_> *Firefox Extension
[12:45] <tank71> stdin: still same problem
[12:45] <tank71> brb
[12:46] <stdin> tank71: on the server run "sudo netstat -lnp" and look what address sshd is listening to
[12:46] <nicolai_> runlevelten: could it be flashgot?
[12:47] <runlevelten> There's flashgot, but there was one which installed via a shell script too
[12:47] <runlevelten> nicolai_: flashgot will do it if it works in teh gnu/linux.
[12:47] <noaxess_kubuntu> andersin: thanks for quick info :)
[12:50] <runlevelten> Wow, what an astoundingly poor website design @ flashgot.net
[12:51] <nicolai_> runlevelten: I used the Firefox addons page
[12:51] <runlevelten> nicolai_: just seeing if it works :)
[12:52] <nicolai_> runlevelten: seems to work for me :)
[12:52] <nicolai_> runlevelten: Though I deeply regretted pressing "Flashgot all"
[12:53] <nicolai_> runlevelten: It wanted to download every file from every tab. That took a while to cancel. :/
[12:54] <nicolai_> And by file I mean webpage--element
[12:55] <runlevelten> nicolai_: ouch. Still, with a few tweaks so "save as" works, I can see a reason for packaging a modified flashgot with ff by default in kubuntu.
[12:55] <runlevelten> Or at least offering to "integrate with kget?" in the same way konqueror does.
[12:55] <nicolai_> I agree. Especially because the Firefox download tool isn't very good
[12:55] <|Lunar_Lamp|> !kde4
[12:55] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[12:56] <Assid> hey
[12:56] <nicolai_> Shouldn't Ubotu be updated
[12:56] <nicolai_> beta is out now
[12:56] <Assid> something is wrong here
[12:56] <runlevelten> nicolai_: Yes, the FF downloader is still broken across sessions afaik. Don't quote me on that though, I haven't tried lately.
[12:56] <Assid> i set thunderbird as the default mail client.. however.. whenever i do anything.. it opens kmail
[12:56] <Assid> same thing for firefox/konqueror
[12:57] <Assid> also.. kopete just stopped opening for me
[12:57] <nicolai_> runlevelten: I've never paused/resumed succesfully with it.
 beta is out now <== I don't think the beta packages are in the backports repo's yet though :-(
[12:57] <runlevelten> Assid: You set the default KDE browser, not the default gnome browser?
[12:57] <runlevelten> ie kcontrol -> kde components -> default applications?
[12:57] <stdin> nicolai_: update it, it'll be forwarded to -ops and they'll apply it
[12:58] <nicolai_> |Lunar_Lamp|: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[12:58] <runlevelten> nicolai_: quite. Also, drag and drop integration and session management integration are possible too.
[12:58] <|Lunar_Lamp|> nicolai_, yay! Thanks :-)
[12:58] <runlevelten> nicolai_: ff has a resume once flag you can set. KDE should set it when persistent sessions are on and it shuts down, imo.
[12:59] <runlevelten> that would make ff behave like a kde app.
[12:59] <Assid> runlevelten: okay that worked.. but kopete still wont start up
[12:59] <nicolai_> stdin: I'm not very experienced with IRC, so I think I'll just let it be for now.
[01:00] <runlevelten> the other thing that needs sorting is triggering the move to, copy to menu when a url is dropped from FF.
[01:00] <stdin> nicolai_: you just do "!no kde4 is <reply> then put the reply you want here....."
[01:01] <runlevelten> nicolai_: With that and teh work already done on theming, you have a reasonable attempt at KDE integration for FF. Kubuntu should be the first to have it tbh.
[01:01] <runlevelten> Assid: can you open a konsole, and type kopete in it, then pastebin the results?
[01:01] <runlevelten> !pastebin | Assid
[01:01] <ubotu> Assid: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:01] <Assid> runlevelten: nothing happens.. it just runs.. but nothing happens
[01:02] <nicolai_> !no KDE4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[01:02] <|Lunar_Lamp|> nicolai_, there appears to be a small bug in the instructions given on the page you gave me.  The final instruction says "put the three export lines at the top..." but thre are 4... :-/  Is one not needed, if so, which one?
[01:02] <runlevelten> Assid: No output in the console at all?
[01:03] <Assid> runlevelten: nope
[01:04] <nicolai_> |Lunar_Lamp|: My guess is someone couldn't count. :)
[01:05] <Lunar_Lamp> nicolai_, quite possibly, want to try and find an email address to send them their mistake? ;-)
[01:06] <runlevelten> Assid: at the very least, you should get a message saying it doesn't exist, or the bad device warnings for the entries that cover you for X
[01:06] <nicolai_> Lunar_Lamp: it's because the last line wasn't in the alpha instructions.
[01:06] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: that'd be Riddell :)
[01:06] <runlevelten> Assid: You are typing the command into a console, a terminal, a command prompt, aren't you? :)
[01:07] <Assid> runlevelten: yes..  no error..
[01:07] <Assid> its as tho its supposed to launch.. but nothing launches
[01:08] <runlevelten> and the prompt doesn't come back?
[01:08] <runlevelten> I hate to ask, but Is there the kopete icon in your tray?
[01:09] <Assid> it comes back
[01:09] <Assid> nothing launches
[01:09] <Assid> nope.. not in the tray
[01:09] <Riddell> Lunar_Lamp: fixed
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp> Riddell, thanks :-)
[01:09] <Assid> hrmm got it
[01:09] <ubuntu> hi,an denno, joined this channel
[01:10] <Assid> it was a session running.. but somehow didnt come to my screen
[01:10] <Lunar_Lamp> Riddell, also, for clarity, I've noticed a problem with "To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1; export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm."
[01:10] <Assid> killed the process and started it
[01:10] <Lunar_Lamp> Riddell, you may want to put a comma after "full session" as it took me about 5 times of reading it to parse what it meant.
[01:10] <runlevelten> do you see it when you type  ps ax | grep kopete
[01:11] <Lunar_Lamp> I thought it was talking about "a full session install" and wasn't sure what that meant.
[01:12] <stdin> runlevelten: and change "Xephyr :1; export DISPLAY=:1; xterm" to "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1", or the commands run after Xephyr exits
[01:12] <stdin> Riddell:  and change "Xephyr :1; export DISPLAY=:1; xterm" to "Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1", or the commands run after Xephyr exits
[01:12] <stdin> runlevelten: ignore that :p
[01:12] <runlevelten> stdin: I gathered x)
[01:15] <Assid> brilliant
[01:15] <Riddell> stdin: done
[01:15] <Assid> now if only i can get my desktop to look nice
[01:15] <Riddell> thanks
[01:15] <stdin> :)
[01:16] <runlevelten> Assid: It working?
[01:17] <Assid> yeah.. i killed a runaway process
[01:17] <runlevelten> \o/
[01:20] <Assid> runlevelten: know how to seperate the applications per window for beryl?
[01:21] <miles> hoody who
[01:22] <runlevelten> Assid: Not really understanding the question..
[01:22] <WaxyFresh> grrr...i miss kicker :(
[01:22] <runlevelten> you mean kickoff?
[01:22] <Assid> runlevelten: you know the taskbar.. i would like to have seperate applications on each window
[01:23] <runlevelten> Oh, I see. I believe it's in kcontrol under Desktop
[01:23] <runlevelten> but I don't use taskbar myself.
[01:24] <dragon_> hey can ne1 here tell me how to configure witch sound device xserver uses? ..... i just restarted my computer and its now decided to send all sound to the onboard device (witch cannot be turned off )
[01:24] <runlevelten> assid: kcontrol  desktop  taskbar  check sort windows by desktop
[01:24] <runlevelten> No, wait.
[01:25] <runlevelten> group similar tasks always, even
[01:25] <Assid> nope
[01:26] <runlevelten> I think I'm not understanding the terminology then..
[01:27] <runlevelten> taskbar... seperate applications on each window...
[01:27] <Assid> when you jump across multiple windows.. your taskbar remains as it is
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Assid: I still don't get what you are trying to do
[01:27] <runlevelten> desktops then?
[01:27] <Assid> yes.. desktops
[01:27] <runlevelten> aaaah.
[01:27] <Assid> i want to have seperate taskbars .. per desktop
[01:27] <runlevelten> uncheck show windows from all desktops I guess
[01:28] <WaxyFresh> kde 4.0is tribe 3 right?
[01:28] <Assid> wheres it ?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> WaxyFresh: no.
[01:28] <runlevelten> alt + f2  kcontrol  desktop  taskbar
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> Assid: oh yeah, there is an option for that....let me check
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> uncheck "show windoes from all desktops"
[01:29] <runlevelten> ps: I use the settings applet and have it in the right hand corner next to the clock and tray, quicker than running kcontrol :)
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> in the taskbar configuration
[01:30] <Assid> nosrednaekim: i dont see it
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I probably do
[01:30] <Assid> i dont see it.. show windows from all desktop
[01:30] <runlevelten> assid:  alt + f2  kcontrol  desktop  taskbar  uncheck show windows from all desktops
[01:30] <Assid> runlevelten: that option aint there
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> its the top option...
[01:31] <Assid> first one is to sort..
[01:31] <runlevelten> Assid: It's the first checkbox, after you have chosen desktop  taskbar.
[01:31] <runlevelten> Assid: are you running on a very low screen res?
[01:32] <Assid> 1024x768 .. and its not there
[01:32] <WaxyFresh> if i install kde 4.0 and it borks my system how do i revert back to my kurrent kde version?
[01:32] <miles> yea
[01:32] <vlt> Hello. I want to read a gpg encrypted mail. The secret key needed for decryption is in my keyring file but kmail just shows me a (blue) mail header "No decryption possible ... wrong passphrase". What do I have to do to get it working with kmail?
[01:32] <miles> how do you do that
[01:33] <runlevelten> Assid: put it on mediafire, dude
[01:33] <Prophezy> hello all
[01:34] <Edulix> uhm
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> WaxyFresh: it will always be available for you
[01:34] <Assid> http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fv0.png
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> vlt: the secret thing used for decrytion is your passphrase, which is not necesarily the key.
[01:35] <Assid> its not there.
[01:35] <runlevelten> Oh... you're running a composite wm. Then it won't let you
[01:35] <Assid> err.. im using beryl
[01:36] <runlevelten> There is some kind of clash there IIRC and having it enabled stuffs up beryl/compiz/whatever.
[01:36] <Assid> yeah.. thats why i said in beryl.. cause beryl makes the desktop windows to 1
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Assid: wierd...
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> ah yeah, thats right..
[01:36] <Assid> ive done it before. within beryl.. somehow it came back to this
[01:37] <Assid> now i gotta set it back :(
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> you have to get a special app..... I have it, I'll find it for you.
[01:37] <WaxyFresh> nosrednaekim: how?
[01:37] <runlevelten> Assid: I expect it was changed recently.
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> they are different options on logging in
[01:38] <WaxyFresh> nosrednaekim: well i know that,i just didint relize that kde-4 would leae kde 3.? intact and still bootable.thanks
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah, they use totally different directories and such
[01:39] <runlevelten> Yeah, there appears to be a taskbar-compiz thingy nosrednaekim. I'll leave that in your capable hands then :)
[01:39] <akrus> hello everyone
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:39] <akrus> is there any client with chats&webcam support for linux?
[01:40] <akrus> Yahoo/AIM
[01:40] <runlevelten> yes
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> webcam?
[01:40] <vlt> nosrednaekim: I thought the key is used after being "unlocked" with the passphrase. Hmm ... the problem is that KMail doesn't even ask for a passphrase.
[01:40] <runlevelten> akrus: It's whichever is the latest gyachi realtive, I installed it for clients and set up yahoo webcam and voice with it
[01:41] <runlevelten> worked fine, although it's ugly, heh.
[01:41] <akrus> :)
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> Assid: google "compiz-toolbar"
[01:41] <vlt> nosrednaekim: (Decrypting the plain mail body in a shell using `gpg` works fine, btw)
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> its not in the repositories
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> vlt: Kmail always asks me.
[01:42] <Ellipsys> Morning guys. Anyone know how to get firefox to play embedded WMAs in webpages, like putfile?
[01:42] <runlevelten> I had to build from source because the _SUSE_ packages were too old, so you've got  a snowball's chance in a microwave of finding a new enough ver
[01:42] <runlevelten> in the ubuntu repos.
[01:42] <vlt> nosrednaekim: My KMail asks YOU?!? WTF ;-)
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah. Maybe you have a pgp key pre assigned somewhere in preferences?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Assid: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=49484
[01:43] <runlevelten> (OpenSuSE pretty much always has newer software packaged, and it's usually been glanced over by developers who patch, too)
[01:44] <runlevelten> Well, not so much any more, I suppose, because people don't want anything to do with it :(
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> runlevelten: it was in the tuxfamily repository
[01:45] <runlevelten> nosrednaekim: is it a version where the cam support works though? Let's hope so.
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> wait, I think we are talking about two different things...lol
[01:47] <runlevelten> nosrednaekim: you mean the compiz-compatible taskbar?
[01:47] <runlevelten> nosrednaekim: I thought you meant the gyachi! thingy
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> AH! I went and found the thig for Assid and then he leaves! http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/feisty/eyecandy/taskbar-compiz_0.1+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[01:48] <miles> i just coded a sick lil nugget into my .bashrc
[01:48] <miles> a lil 1-line zinger!
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> "rm -rf /" yeah!
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> w00t!
[01:49] <miles> no way
[01:49] <miles> your insane if you try that
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> I did that once.
[01:49] <stdin> you shouln't post that, not even as a joke!
[01:49] <runlevelten> that's not right!!! it should be ~
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> because I wanted to wipe linux anyway.
[01:50] <miles> bull, logically thats impossible
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> miles: what is?
[01:50] <miles> "rm -rf /"
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> no its not.
[01:50] <WaxyFresh> whats -rf?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> rm gets loaded into memory.
[01:50] <miles> thats like using your arms to hold up your legs and suddenly your floating
[01:50] <stdin> nosrednaekim: it's against the CoC and the IRC Guidelines, some have been banned for that
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> WaxyFresh: recursive delete
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ah sorry, didn't know
[01:51] <runlevelten> Yeah, it's like posting fork bombs, but worse, tbh.
[01:51] <miles> so does that really work or not
[01:51] <runlevelten> miles: yeah.
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah, it really works.
[01:51] <stdin> WaxyFresh: recousive and force (removed everything without asking)
[01:51] <miles> #$@!
[01:52] <runlevelten> miles: proc etc notwithstanding, heh
[01:52] <miles> alias self-destruct='rm -rf /
[01:52] <WaxyFresh> whats a fork bomb?		 				 				 				 			  		   		   			  KDE 4 Beta 1re
[01:52] <miles> alias self-destruct='rm -rf /'*
[01:52] <miles> can i get in trouble for saying that?
[01:52] <stdin> yes
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> WaxyFresh: it overloads the processor with millions of processes
[01:52] <VirtualMachine> Hi! I want to try Kubuntu and LinuxMCE and trying to install Kubuntu on a Virtual Machine on a WinXP install. I have tried both Virtualbox and VMWare Player installing from the iso-file of Kubuntu. I get to the first screen and select the first option: "Install Kubuntu" or something similar, and afterwards I only see a blue-ish screen and can move the pointer around. However it does not start properly and displays any icons. Any help?
[01:52] <runlevelten> WaxyFresh: google it. Nobody here can tell you tbh.
[01:53] <runlevelten> wouldn't be effical because as soon as you post one in an IRC channel, people start dropping because they tried it.
[01:53] <runlevelten> Except that most don't work on secure distros.
[01:53] <miles> that would be rofl irl
[01:53] <miles> and secretly, pwn +2xp
[01:53] <Assid> hey
[01:53] <Assid> err.. can someone help me with beryl
[01:53] <Assid> i kinda screwed up something..
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> they are so simple though. maybe 10 lines of c code.
[01:53] <runlevelten> miles: it is, but only when you're among geeks who know better.
[01:54] <Assid> and now i cant get the cube
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> Assid: yeah, i posted your link BTW
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/feisty/eyecandy/taskbar-compiz_0.1+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[01:54] <Assid> whats that?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> thats the compiz-taskbar
[01:54] <Assid> err.. but im not using compiz
[01:54] <runlevelten> miles: there's actually no reason to lock an executable after you've loaded it if you're root and you know exactly what you're doing.
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go. c ya'll
[01:54] <runlevelten> miles: It's an unnecessary nuisance
[01:55] <runlevelten> later nosrednaekim
[01:55] <vlt> I sent an encrypted mail with kmail to myself. It refuses to open it while decrypting it on the command line works. Any ideas?
[01:55] <miles> yea, i was just about to say, i couldnt run that command without sudo anyways
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> you actually TRIED?
[01:55] <miles> no
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> now I can see why its dangerous.
[01:55] <miles> but i checked the owner of /
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> oh ;)
[01:55] <miles> and its root, not me
[01:55] <runlevelten> miles: only because you don't have permission.
[01:55] <miles> yea
[01:56] <runlevelten> nosrednaekim: someone will have done. People always do, because people are the proverbial curious cat.
[01:56] <miles> switch the owner to some user that no one uses, switch their shell to /bin/null
[01:56] <miles> nm, root could over write that anyways
[01:56] <VirtualMachine> help anyone? Is anyone running Kubuntu through VirtualBox og VMWare?
[01:56] <miles> you guys just broadened my horizons a little
[01:57] <miles> "you just took one step into a bigger world" - obi-wan kenobi to luke skywalker
[01:57] <miles> thanks for opening my eyes guys
[01:57] <runlevelten> heh.  I know I did.
[01:58] <Assid> dammmnn
[01:58] <runlevelten> I've done it on work machines actually.
[01:58] <miles> and it all started because i had a snazzy little zinger in my .bashrc
[01:58] <Assid> 1 day in .. and i already screwed it up[
[01:58] <runlevelten> lol @ waxyfresh. s.w.i.m?
[01:58] <miles> i think im gonna set "alias self-destruct='that one command'"
[02:00] <principo> mahlzeit!
[02:00] <runlevelten> that command with squiggle instead of forwardslash, and ekko "Account removed" is good too.
[02:00] <runlevelten> that's an & not an && :)
[02:03] <jjesse> good morning, what do i need to have installed to share a folder between my kubuntu box and my windos box?
[02:03] <stdin> !samba
[02:03] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:03] <miles> i could never get swat to work
[02:04] <jjesse> i don't want to mount my windows shares, i want to share a folder on my kubuntu install and access it on my widndows box
[02:04] <stdin> yeah, look at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[02:06] <runlevelten> stdin: I point people to KPF for that kind of one way share, tbh
[02:06] <runlevelten> *if they're end users and using kde
[02:07] <VirtualMachine> !virtualbox
[02:07] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[02:07] <runlevelten> just a thought :)
[02:07] <stdin> runlevelten: it's easier, but you can't write to the files then
[02:07] <runlevelten> indeed
[02:08] <runlevelten> I still find samba flummoxes end users at the best of times (even when it's a pure win environment, tbh).
[02:08] <dromer> !vmware
[02:08] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:08] <runlevelten> stdin: have you seen giver?
[02:08] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:09] <stdin> you really need a PHD to setup sama
[02:09] <Ace2016> why do my fonts look sooo bad on my lcd when they look very very good on my crt monitor???
[02:09] <stdin> runlevelten: no
[02:09] <runlevelten> hang on.
[02:10] <runlevelten> http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3768442676796881783&hl=en
[02:10] <runlevelten> giver is kind of cool ;)
[02:12] <stdin> runlevelten: looks nice :)
[02:13] <runlevelten> It wraps all sorts of sharing protocols, down to the networking capabilities of individual apps too, which is groovy.
[02:14] <geo88> how do I uncripple konqueror  ? :( I can't find any konqueror-orig.rc on my sysyem :(
[02:14] <runlevelten> uncripple in what sense?
[02:16] <geo88> well
[02:16] <geo88> runlevelten the kubuntu team removed some item menus from konqueror, and I want them back :)
[02:17] <geo88> as in : there should have been a Go menu and a Window menu besides Location,Edit,View etc.
[02:17] <runlevelten> Ah, menu removal. The stupid K Menu drives me nuts.
[02:17] <stdin> geo88: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[02:18] <geo88> runlevelten , neah, it's got nothing to do with the K Menu :)
[02:18] <J_P> hi all
[02:18] <runlevelten> geo88: You don't say.
[02:19] <runlevelten> heh
[02:19] <geo88> runlevelten , well, I war referring to something else :P
[02:21] <geo88> stdin I actually followed that tut, but as I said...didn't find the file needed (konqueror-orig.rc) ... I now realized why... it just doesn't exist in gutsy. I copied it from feisty though :)
[02:22] <stdin> geo88: ahh
[02:22] <harmental> is there a shortcut to create/delete and switch tabs in Konsole?
[02:23] <runlevelten> ctrl, shift, n create
[02:24] <runlevelten> ctrl d = delete, shift left and right = switch
[02:25] <runlevelten> caveat - I use the in-shell quit command to shut 'em, so ymmv with ctrl d
[02:25] <harmental> runlevelten: thx!!
[02:25] <runlevelten> harmental: np :)
[02:26] <berkes> is it possible to enforce the user of files, created in a certain dir? I want all files and dirs under /foo to be owned by user bar. Even if user berkes makes them.
[02:29] <stdin> berkes: I think you have to set gid on the dir
[02:31] <berkes> stdin: afaiks that will only enforce the group, not the user. not?
[02:32] <stdin> berkes: ahh, sorry, uid not gid
[02:34] <berkes> stdin: drwsrwsr-x is my permission string. I would think that that means uid is sticky. But if I touch a file it still gets my user-id.
[02:37] <stdin> berkes: hmm, not sure. maybe ask in ##linux (if you get a responce)
[02:38] <miles> its too early for teh snickerz
[02:41] <stdin> miles: no, it's 13:41 here :)
[02:41] <blaukatze> hiya allll
[02:41] <blaukatze> i have a question any body help me ?
[02:41] <Ace2016> what question is it?
[02:41] <stdin> !ask
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:42] <blaukatze>  is it posible to use ndivia preferences in ubuntu
[02:42] <blaukatze> to see or use :)
[02:42] <stdin> afaik, it's installed with the driver package
[02:42] <Ace2016> alt+f2 nvidia-settings  is that what you want?
[02:42] <blaukatze> i mean when i am on graphics preferences on window there is a option like nvidia preferences
[02:42] <Ace2016> wait i'm using the beta drivers so it might be different for the one in the repo
[02:43] <Ace2016> blaukatze: nvidia-settings should be what your after, run it
[02:43] <blaukatze> yes it is :)
[02:43] <Ace2016> kdesu nvidia-settings
[02:43] <Ace2016> you need to run kdesu nvidia-settings to edit the settings, needs root access
[02:45] <blaukatze> i just run it bye alt f2 and nvidia-settings :)
[02:45] <blaukatze> thats what i was looking for thanks
[02:45] <blaukatze> and i have rite rn-1300se webcam
[02:46] <blaukatze> here is Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:613a Microdia
[02:46] <blaukatze> lsusb
[02:46] <blaukatze> and i do not know how to install it
[02:46] <stdin> !webcam
[02:46] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:49] <blaukatze> my cam is not at support list
[02:49] <blaukatze> does it mean i am not going to use it ?
[02:50] <stdin> blaukatze: try the instructions on the other link, it may be supported
[02:50] <blaukatze> anybody ?
[02:51] <Jerky_san> dang this is a nice sized irc chan lol
[02:54] <runlevelten> berkes. I was all set to give you an answer then realised that you can't do it on gnu/linux, heh.
[02:55] <runlevelten> berkes: I suppose you could create a bindmount with a fixed ownership and umask.
[02:58] <mumpitzmann> what do I have to do to get .htacces files to work?
[02:58] <mumpitzmann> it seems to be more than just the stuff mentioned here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingUseOfApacheHtaccessFiles
[02:59] <runlevelten> there's probably a less brain-damaged solution tbh, but I've not wanted users to create files as someone else by default in a long time.
[03:01] <genii> runlevelten: I usuallu use samba then map all userneames to the one I want
[03:01] <genii> bleh typos
[03:01] <genii> usuallu=usually, userneames=usernames
[03:02] <runlevelten> heh yeah
[03:11] <mumpitzmann> it works :D
[03:11] <mumpitzmann> forgot to enable mod_rewrite
[03:12] <miles> when you install something via apt-get, where does the package get installed at?
[03:12] <miles> wait, nm
[03:12] <miles> "/var/lib", correct?
[03:13] <noaxess_kubuntu> what about kubuntu an dual display?
[03:13] <noaxess_kubuntu> any special settings?
[03:15] <humberto> oi pra todos
[03:16] <Ace2016> miles: what file did you install
[03:17] <Ace2016> miles: Alt+F2, type ~ and click run, then in the address bar type apt:/ and then search for the package, click on the package name in the list and scroll down to see a full file list of all installed files
[03:17] <Ace2016> Job done
[03:17] <stdin> Ace2016: why not just type "apt:/" in the run dialog?
[03:23] <Ace2016> st
[03:24] <grml> hi
[03:24] <Ace2016> stdin: it messes up my order, Alt+f2 type a then down then enter starts azureus, if i add apt:/ i'll have to press down twise
[03:24] <Ace2016> grml: hi
[03:24] <grml> mein ndiswrapper treiber scheint nicht ganz sauber zu sein
[03:24] <Ace2016> grml: guess your using grml right?
[03:24] <grml> oh, english
[03:24] <grml> no, ubuntu, today
[03:24] <grml> and here comes my problem with it...
[03:25] <miles> !find jdk
[03:25] <stdin> Ace2016: just addign a key combo to azureus ;)
[03:25] <ubotu> Found: sun-java5-jdk, sun-java6-jdk
[03:25] <Ace2016> stdin: nope, don't use it that often
[03:25] <grml> i wonder why the ndiswrapper works a bit deprecated. often i start and it tells me: wlan0: link is not ready
[03:26] <grml> if i restart about 20 times (which takes lots of minutes), anytime it IS ready!
[03:26] <grml> but why isn't it ready everytime?
[03:26] <Ace2016> something to do with your netwrok? does it work fine in grml?
[03:27] <grml> yeah, there i have 0 problems :-)
[03:27] <noaxess_kubuntu> is there a chkdsk for linux?...
[03:27] <grml> i have another ubuntu system on an older pc and there it works fine, too.
[03:27] <miles> !eclipse
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: fsck
[03:28] <grml> but on this one with the netgear pci wlan adapter, it sucks
[03:28] <stdin> !fsck | noaxess_kubuntu
[03:28] <ubotu> noaxess_kubuntu: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:28] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: but for ntfs partitions i have connected to kubuntu
[03:29] <grml> iwlist scan finds the network. but as i said: dmesg tells me: link is not ready.
[03:29] <Ace2016> noaxess_kubuntu: ntfs partitions need windows xp to check them out, not srue if kubuntu can do that
[03:29] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: there is a tool in ntfsprogs, but you'll want to run the windows chkdsk on it
[03:30] <grml> (if it is important, i use wpa_supplicant.)
[03:30] <Ace2016> grml: tried waiting for the link to be ready?
[03:30] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: can't conect it to windows... windows freezes.. :(.. only in kubuntu i see the partitions..
[03:30] <noaxess_kubuntu> i tried ntfsfix on the corrupt partition, error Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[03:30] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: use the windows cd in rescue console to run chkdsk
[03:31] <grml> Ace2016: it is not ready yet...
[03:31] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: is there really nothing on the ntfstools?
[03:31] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: no, nothing that can fix a corrupted FS.
[03:31] <Ace2016> strange
[03:31] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: whats the tool you mean?
[03:31] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: you'll have to use the windows tools
[03:31] <noaxess_kubuntu> hm ok
[03:31] <noaxess_kubuntu> just ry..
[03:31] <noaxess_kubuntu> try
[03:32] <neusonce> !mkisofs
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <stdin> noaxess_kubuntu: on the windows install CD, there is a rescue console, run chkdsk there
[03:32] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrr
[03:34] <runlevelten> It's ntfsftl again. I avoid touching it on any personal machine.
[03:34] <grml> no idea for my stupid ndiswrapper?
[03:35] <noaxess_kubuntu> stdin: i know that.. i know windoof really good.. but wanted to know exactly tat there is really nothing for thins on kubuntu-linux.. thanks
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:36] <neusonce> grrrrrrrr
[03:36] <neusonce>  whats the package that  unpacks with mkisofs?
[03:37] <neusonce>  i just did a fresh install and everything gone to hell
[03:38] <nicolai_> neusonce: you want the dependensies?
[03:39] <bburatti> hello all
[03:39] <nicolai_> neusonce: mkisofs is a dummy package for genisoimage
[03:39] <bburatti> did you know when kde4 3.92.0 will be available for kubuntu ?
[03:39] <neusonce> YES
[03:39] <neusonce> THATS IT
[03:40] <stdin> bburatti: it's being built for feisty now, it takes a while
[03:40] <bburatti> ok, thanks
[03:43] <thehcdreamer> hy everyone, i'm new to kubuntu, how can I install the themes from kde-look.org?
[03:43] <neusonce> .........
[03:44] <Ace2016> thehcdreamer: by theme do you mean style?
[03:44] <stdin> !changethemes | thehcdreamer
[03:44] <ubotu> thehcdreamer: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:44] <thehcdreamer> when i use ubuntu, i'm having a themes manager
[03:44] <thehcdreamer> thanks
[03:44] <Ace2016> thehcdreamer: check out QtCurve its my fav theme on kde-look.org
[03:44] <neusonce> dose anybody have an idea how i can get dvd shrink under wine to register the dvd drive?