[15:17] <dillon_> pilne I tried that website and I couldn't get terminal to do anything basically what i need to is create a Windows Bootable usb
[15:17] <bekks> sefai: What is paltak?
[15:17] <pilne> first you said you just needed it for storage, now it has to be a bootable cd? i'm confused
[15:17] <sefai> paltalk
[15:18] <sefai> i instal him but no work
[15:18] <bekks> !info paltalk
[15:18] <dillon_> pilne if I can get back into windows then I can get them back to storage devices
[15:18] <bekks> sefai: What is paltalk?
[15:19] <sefai> paltalk massenger
[15:19] <k1l_> sefai: seems like that is closed source software. so you might need to ask the one who made that program
[15:20] <sefai> ok thx
[15:20] <sefai> :)
[15:20] <craptalk> is safari only available using such emulator in linux?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> !find safari
[15:24] <mach321> is this a freenode channel
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> mach321  yes
[15:25] <mach321> well you guys couldnt solve my problem because this is me again
[15:26] <mach321> how is Anonymous doing now
[15:27] <mach321> yes, you, you are one of the hackers
[15:29] <pi__> gaaaay
[15:29] <pi__> hallo?
[15:32] <nicomachus> hi
[15:41] <logikos> I need help with user and group permissions (i think) i have a symlink in /var/www to ~/public_html and i can execute ~/public_html/index.php  from browser just fine.  however php can not edit files in ~/public_html even though i set umask to 0002 (both in system and via php), all files and folders in ~/public_html/ have write bit for group on, and i did sudo usermod -a -G logikos www-data...
[15:41] <logikos> ...AND sudo usermod -a -G www-data logikos
[15:41] <logikos> if from php i try to do touch('test'); i get a permission error .. so www-data can not create the file....
[15:41] <logikos> i'm not sure how to troubleshoot this from here....
[15:42] <logikos> if from php i do echo exec('whoami') i get www-data
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> logikos   is that a server? if yes, try and ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:43] <mattkim> moving mouse cursor with keypad is too slow, Could you guys tell me how to fix this?
[15:45] <logikos> MonkeyDust: i just did sudo apt-get install lamp-server^  from workstation version of ubuntu .. but it would still be a server although not public, its just for local dev.
[15:45] <logikos> but ok
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> mattkim  in dconf-editor:  org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad
[15:47] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: thanks. I will give it a try
[15:51] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: Has no touchpad in dconf-editor..
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> mattkim  then look in   org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals
[15:55] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: okay hang on
[15:56] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: just has input-devices, keyboard, mouse, smartcard, touchscreen. no touchpad :)
[15:56] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: I googled about that problem, No one can solve this, thanks anyway :)
[16:02] <mattkim> MonkeyDust: I've just found "touchpad" in desktop in dconf-editor and then I adjusted speed, but it doesn't work :)
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
[16:04] <kill_> OOOOO
[16:10] <Hackanatron> Bonjour à toutes et tous
[16:10] <daftykins> English only, please
[16:10] <daftykins> !fr
[16:10] <Hackanatron> so sorry, don't read that
[16:11] <Hackanatron> so sorry, i miss my channel
[16:11] <Hackanatron> have a nice day
[16:13] <ghr> I want to install Ubuntu but use i3 window manager. Am I better off installing something like Lu/Xubuntu and then i3, Ubuntu, or does it make no difference?
[16:13] <k1l_> ghr: you can even install a minimal version and then install the desktop stuff you like
[16:13] <daftykins> even better would be to install server, or from mini.iso
[16:14] <k1l_> ghr: or install a regular desktop. add the i3 after first boot. then choose the i3 on loginscreen.
[16:14] <daftykins> though that would leave a lot of unneeded cruft on the installation
[16:14] <ghr> I'm interested in Ubuntu (rather than e.g. Arch) because I want it to "Just Work" as much as possible (e.g. wifi, laptop stuff), so would using Server or the mini iso lose those benefits?
[16:15] <daftykins> using i3 would lose those benefits based on what i've seen users ask
[16:15] <ghr> hah
[16:15] <k1l_> the last solution would bring you a working desktop "with everything". but you have some space used then.
[16:15] <k1l_> but disk space is not the issue today, imho
[16:16] <fiter> Hi
[16:16] <daftykins> well another angle to think of is the increased internet connection usage to update those packages that wouldn't be used, but beyond that i agree
[16:16] <LeoDee> hey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release
[16:16] <ghr> I have an old macbook air (2gb ram, 64gb ssd), so resource is a bit limited, but I mostly care about the thing working rather than a couple of extra packages installed
[16:17] <daftykins> ah so it's a mac as well, i have to say that that to my mind pretty much means nothing Linux will 100% 'just work' for you
[16:17] <ghr> yeah, its a terrible situation :/
[16:18] <ghr> but the mba is dog slow on OS X. I've been looking at old thinkpads but tbh, I'd rather just buy a brand new one if I find I can work with linux day to day, so want to try it on hardware I already have
[16:20] <ghr> "using i3 would lose those benefits" what kind of issues come up out of interest?
[16:20] <ghr> daftykins^
[16:21] <k1l_> ghr: some macs need some special work on install. so i would look around what othery did have to do while installing.
[16:21] <daftykins> standard mobile usability, things you'd expect from a laptop
[16:21] <Delvien> use mate+i3  if you want the benefits of a DE, but the tiling and customization of i3
[16:21] <ghr> yeah I've had a read up on installing on mac; seems fine
[16:21] <daftykins> to be quite honest, i have an old model macbook here (the basic white ones) - even xubuntu doesn't have the right keyboard layout at install, only normal ubuntu with unity does
[16:21] <ghr> ugh
[16:22] <daftykins> yeah installation *most* of the time is easy, but if you don't use a modern DE, you'll have little quirks like that
[16:22] <daftykins> ghr: moreover, i would advise waiting on 16.04
[16:22] <ghr> didn't realise the DE controlled so much of that. Figured ubuntu "core" would fix that kind of stuff
[16:22] <daftykins> well you're welcome to try it out, the Mac pages desperately need more attention - i wrote a guide for the one i did
[16:22] <ghr> yeah I noticed that was out soon
[16:22] <daftykins> !mac
[16:22] <ghr> nice!
[16:23] <daftykins> i think it was the 3,1 i did, it sticks out like a sore thumb for being the only one with trusty beside it
[16:23] <ghr> yeah I have a 3,1
[16:24] <ghr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209602 seems like it covers some good stufff too
[16:24] <daftykins> you said macbook air though right?
[16:24] <ghr> yeah
[16:24] <daftykins> as mentioned the 3,1 i have is a white macbook - early intel
[16:25] <daftykins> it has a hilarious flaw where the touchpad under *buntu only works if you lay down an entire thumb segment on the touchpad - finger tips don't work
[16:25] <ghr> ah yeah; didn't realise they had the same number versions for different models
[16:25] <ghr> oh, that's rubbish
[16:26] <ghr> this is why I don't use linux day to day :/
[16:26] <daftykins> i think that's only this one though :)
[16:26] <daftykins> yep nor me - life's too short
[16:27] <jws> bekks Sorry, got crazy here with ppl marching in. If you are still there, here are the commands with there full outputs: http://pastebin.com/ba8vdpH4
[16:28] <jws> (I had to install SSH so I could copy-paste from that machine)
[16:31] <aris1> ls
[16:34] <Penorsaurus> Hi
[16:34] <Penorsaurus> I am haing an issue with my buntu 14.04 server
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> I am hosted with OVH and they had a electrical problem
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> now, on boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> I tried the instructions listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> with no luck
[16:35] <Penorsaurus> any suggestions?
[16:36] <davisonio> Tried contacting OVH? If they were to blame then they should sort this out for you
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, If I can fix it mysel, it would be ideal.
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> they will take forever.
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> I can go into rescue mode
[16:36] <Penorsaurus> do you have any s uggestions?
[16:37] <axk4545> what is the package name for orage global calendar?
[16:37] <davisonio> Penorsaurus: What's the contents of /etc/fstab?
[16:38] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, let me boot into the rescue moe.
[16:38] <davisonio> Ok
[16:38] <davisonio> Also check what's in /dev
[16:38] <Penorsaurus> so nano /etc/fstab right?
[16:39] <bekks> Penorsaurus: dont forget sudo
[16:39] <Penorsaurus> it'll take a minute or two to reboot to rescue mode.
[16:39] <Penorsaurus> I'm logged in as root in rescue mode always.
[16:40] <davisonio> axk4545: It's called evolution. So the package names are evolution and evolution-indicator
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> almost done
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> hopefully I don't need to reinstall everything
[16:41] <Penorsaurus> I migrated to ovh like 2 days ago
[16:41] <Skyrider> quick Q.
[16:42] <Skyrider> How large should the boot / root be of ubuntu, if I have the sig of 300gb?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  dpends on what you plan to do with it
[16:42] <Skyrider> desktop / games, software.. the usual.
[16:42] <axk4545> davisonio: thanks. is that on xubuntu as well?
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> davisonio,
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> ok
[16:42] <Penorsaurus> here we go
[16:42] <ghr> delvien "use mate+i3" sorry for the slow reply; does that just allow me to use the mate (or gnome or whatever they are) apps because they've been installed? Could I not e.g. start with minimal and then install mate-calculator (or whatever?)
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  for me 15gb is enough, but i don't play games
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> here is the content of /etc/fstab
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> http://pastebin.com/myyMnegF
[16:43] <Penorsaurus> davisonio,
[16:44] <bekks> Penorsaurus: And whats the issue now?
[16:44] <Penorsaurus> the issue is
[16:45] <davisonio> axk4545: Ok, on xubuntu the package is called orage.
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> on boot I get: mounting local filesystem FAILED
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> due to a power outage at ovh
[16:45] <davisonio> Penorsaurus: are /dev/vdb1 /mnt/vdb1 existing?
[16:45] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, what do you mean? If they are there right now?
[16:45] <axk4545> davisonio: ok. thank you
[16:46] <Skyrider> That includes software, correct?
[16:46] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, /mnt/vdb1 exists.
[16:46] <davisonio> Ok
[16:46] <Penorsaurus> but I cannot find the dev one
[16:47] <Penorsaurus> the /mnt/vdb1 has all my stuff in it
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  i have a separate /home, for my personal files and settings
[16:47] <Penorsaurus> i cannot cd into /dev/vdb1
[16:47] <bekks> Penorsaurus: You can never cd into a device node.
[16:47] <bekks> Penorsaurus: Those arent directories.
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> nano then?
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: ls -lha /dev/vdb1
[16:48] <halberd> is it possible to disable the alt key entirely for gnome?  I never use it for menus but there are several apps I use that need it, except gnome keeps grabbing it
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: No. Use ls.
[16:48] <DaniKitten> Hello?
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> bekks and davisonio that produces: brw-rw---T 1 root disk 254, 17 Mar  5 16:40 /dev/vdb1
[16:48] <DaniKitten> I'm downloading Ubuntu 14.04 but...
[16:48] <bekks> Penorsaurus: So /dev/vdb1 perfectly exists.
[16:48] <Penorsaurus> seems like it
[16:48] <DaniKitten> Is very slow, will take about three hours to complete
[16:48] <davisonio> Ok, have you tried running 'mount -a' when in recovery?
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> no.
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> should I try it now?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  wifi or cable?
[16:49] <Lorne> hey all.. did Chrome browser disappear from ubuntu app store?  I have it on my 14.x system..but setting up new 15.x and can't find it?!
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, he steps i tried are the ones here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361332/ubuntu-13-04-to-13-10-filesystem-check-or-mount-failed
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> !find chrome
[16:49] <Penorsaurus> I did mount -a just now
[16:50] <DaniKitten> Wifi
[16:50] <Penorsaurus> and no errors were produced.
[16:50] <Penorsaurus> should I exit rescue mode and try it again?
[16:50] <DaniKitten> MonkeyDust: WiFI
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  try with a normal first, then configure wifi
[16:50] <jws> bekks, my "Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M"  is listed as supported on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but the RC410M chipsets isn't listed.
[16:50] <halberd> likeactually I'm fine with alt-tab or alt-` but I don't want gnome to intercept if I just press alt without another key
[16:50] <shazzr> Lorne: Don't ever think that the Chrome browser has been in repos. Chromium-browser on the other hand...
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  cable is fast"er than wifi
[16:50] <davisonio> Penorsaurus, worth a try
[16:51] <DaniKitten> I don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi
[16:51] <ghr> Lorne looks like you might need to add a PPA http://www.howopensource.com/2011/10/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-10-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[16:51] <halberd> bye, restarting
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, still the same error
[16:52] <DaniKitten> MonkeyDust: I don't have Cable Adapter, only WiFi
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> "starting mount file systems on boot : fail"
[16:52] <davisonio> Does it give any additional information?
[16:52] <DaniKitten>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 79.8% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 53.3% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
[16:52] <DaniKitten> Controller ** Uptime: 1h 47m 4s **
[16:52] <Lorne> shazzr : thx... I'm a total newbie - and I got it to work 6 mths ago :)  ...I really only need it for Netflix...any better answer for that now?
[16:52] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, nothing after th at, no.
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> I am booting back into rescue mode
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> do you have any other suggestions?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> backup my shit and do a fresh reinstall or what
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> Penorsaurus  language
[16:53] <Penorsaurus> sorry
[16:53] <shazzr> Lorne: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[16:54] <DaniKitten> Slacko Puppy Linux
[16:54] <DaniKitten> Linux 3.14.55
[16:54] <shazzr> Lorne: There's a chanche though that Chromium dows not suppert Netflix, but I guess you'll find out.
[16:54] <DaniKitten> i686 arch
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  that's not supported here, can't help with that
[16:54] <davisonio> Lorne, you can download the .deb from https://www.google.com/intl/en-US/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[16:54] <Penorsaurus> davisonio, do you have any other suggestions?
[16:54] <davisonio> Penorsaurus, sorry I don't have any other suggestions
[16:55] <DaniKitten> Well, i'll wait until the download finish
[16:58] <Lorne> davisonio : ok - downloaded and installed from google... but it says I need to run from terminal (?)... in 14.x I have a cool icon I click?!   and HOW do I run from terminal?  (is that sudo google-chrome-stable...?)
[16:59] <Mathisen> hello how do i make my ubuntu server not respond on ping ?
[16:59] <davisonio> sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[17:00] <davisonio> Lorne, try following the instructions here- they worked for me http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome
[17:00] <Lorne> davisonio ok thx...will follow those...
[17:04] <DeaDSouL> Hi, what is the most reliable 6TB drive ?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> Mathisen  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-ping-response-ubuntu-server/
[17:05] <davisonio> DeaDSouL, Western Digital
[17:06] <davisonio> see here for the face-off https://www.backblaze.com/blog/6-tb-hard-drive-face-off/
[17:06] <Mathisen> MonkeyDust: thx
[17:06] <JamesT1995> DeaDSouL: western digital, but why so much capacity?
[17:06] <DeaDSouL> davisonio: according to backblaze WD wasn't that reliable
[17:07] <DeaDSouL> JamesT1995: I'm building a NAS box
[17:07] <davisonio> Fair enough
[17:07] <davisonio> You could ask the folks at #datahoarder
[17:08] <Lorne> davisonio ok followed the instructions - and it looked like it worked...BUT superkey search google or chrome finds nothing
[17:09] <davisonio> Oh I'm not sure why that would happen, hmm
[17:10] <dejavou42> how can you see a file's true date/timestamp?
[17:10] <Lorne> shazzr : FYI Chromium doesn't support netflix... just tested it :/
[17:10] <dejavou42> ie. the timestamp that shows from ls -lah can be spoofed
[17:11] <grapilon> Hi
[17:12] <thecyclone> hey grapilon
[17:13] <grapilon> thecyclone: How's the channel doing ?
[17:13] <thecyclone> grapilon: which channel?
[17:13] <grapilon> thecyclone: This channel, #ubuntu
[17:14] <ams_> I've followed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/610903/how-can-i-create-a-video-file-from-a-set-of-jpg-images to make a video from a bunch of jpegs but the quality is dodgy - goes green and looks all wrong. Anyone know what might be doing wrong with this?
[17:14] <thecyclone> not well! all of us were missing you grapilon
[17:15] <grapilon> thecyclone: Really...I thought I was missing out from irc for a short moment
[17:15] <DeaDSouL> davisonio: thanks bro
[17:16] <grapilon> thecyclone: So, this is a Support Channel. What kinds of things have people been asking about ?
[17:16] <Lorne2> davisonio :  Here's the error I get when I try to start chrome http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu1
[17:18] <kcp> q
[17:19] <davisonio> Lorne2, try running 'sudo chmod 770 -R ~/.config' in terminal
[17:19] <dejavou42> can a file's change time be spoofed? ex. stat file.txt. I know modified can be spoofed, but changed?
[17:20] <Lorne2> davisonio : ok ...did that... it did nothing...returned a $ immediatley
[17:21] <davisonio> It doesn't show that it did anything. Try launching chrome again and see if there are errors again
[17:21] <grapilon> I've got a question: Is there a channel or website that Ubuntu uses to track specific laptop compatibilities in subsequent Ubuntu releases ?
[17:22] <shazzr> Lorne: Thought so. Bummer.
[17:22] <Lorne2> shazzr : im searching around...seems like there may be a Kodi plugin to support Netflix....
[17:23] <thecyclone> grapilon: you can ask anything from minor bugs in your OS to the little green men from ireland
[17:23] <thecyclone> grapilon: this is a philosophy channel
[17:24] <grapilon> thecyclone: Okay, thanks. Is there someone here that can talk about Lenovo Thinkpad laptops ?
[17:24] <squinty> !topic
[17:25] <Kira9204> Lorne2: Why not simply use Google Chrome?
[17:25] <grapilon> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W550s, and was wondering about the battery state/info in the /proc directory
[17:25] <squinty> grapilon,  this is the ubuntu support channel.  better to just state your problem than asking "is there anyone...."
[17:27] <grapilon> squinty: Okay, good. Does 15.10 Ubuntu provide battery state and info in the /proc directory ?
[17:28] <grapilon> I get the impression that it does not, after setting 15.10 up and traversing to /proc/acpi/battery to look for BAT0 or BAT1, but no luck
[17:30] <flyinprogrammer> alright so i must be an idiot... in 15.10 how do you bounce dnsmasq without a system reboot? because there doesn't seem to be a systemd config...
[17:30] <AliSh> hi. I am feeling confused. after several month working on linux I cant go back to windows. anyone here like me?:)
[17:31] <grapilon> AliSh: Right here.
[17:31] <Skyrid3r> Greetings all.. Currently using live USB.. was hoping someone could help me out..
[17:31] <Lorne2> Kira9204 : I'm having trouble installing Chrome... it looks ok - but search can't find it installed!
[17:31] <AliSh> I dont know why
[17:31] <Skyrid3r> Rather confused on the whole partition parts of the installation (wish it would be easier)
[17:31] <davisonio> There's no Unix in Windows, that's why
[17:31] <Lorne2> Kira9204 : http://pastebin.com/YwhP2Lu1
[17:32] <grapilon> AliSh: It's more fun to use a command line than pointing and clicking to type a letter/message
[17:32] <AliSh> I am .net developer but after this experiences I wanna java job
[17:32] <davisonio> I can't live without Unix so stick to Linux/OS X
[17:32] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: ask your live USB question
[17:32] <Skyrid3r> I know, I know.. wasn't around to ask it right away :p
[17:32] <axk4545> davisonio: is chromeos acceptable?
[17:33] <Skyrid3r> I have 2 unallocated space, one of 200gb, one of 86GB.
[17:33] <grapilon> AliSh: Have you tried Sourceforge or Meetup for Java jobs ?
[17:33] <AliSh> ni. I am in iran and that way is so hard
[17:33] <Skyrid3r> How do I make it so it'll install (with swap) using 200GB as home, and 86GB mixed with swap/boot.
[17:34] <davisonio> axk4545, I haven't used it personally but it seems more suited to people who only browse the web in my opinion
[17:34] <Kira9204> Lorne2: How did you install it? Simple double click on deb?
[17:34] <grapilon> AliSh: Just make a trip to London, if you can. I know this medical Dr. who was born in Iran, parents sent him to medical school in London, and he learned English enough to travel to the US and apply for a job
[17:35] <Kira9204> that is quite a werd permissions issue
[17:35] <axk4545> davisonio: that seems to be true from my experience. I got one and I am going to try to have it single boot pure Linux. Hopefully it works
[17:36] <ubuntu683> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something
[17:36] <AliSh> grapilon. I am trying but I havent enough miney. therefore I am trying to show my programming power
[17:36] <Lorne2> Kira9204 Yes - from google downloads...it opened itself into the App installer...and the final screen said it was installed and needed to be opened from Terminal.  When I try - I get the above errors
[17:37] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the install ?
[17:37] <grapilon> AliSh: How about India ? Lots of tech and entrepreneur ops there
[17:37] <Skyrid3r> grapilon: Dunno about automation.... Its saying which partition's it'll use, with no name just a number...
[17:37] <Skyrid3r> Which is VERY confusing.
[17:38] <AliSh> I should try.
[17:39] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Are you using parted/gparted or a partitioning program ?
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> Currently both live installation partition manager & gparted..
[17:40] <ubuntu683> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 15.10 alongside a machine preinstalled with windows 10 so I can dual boot,  Windows seems to have a gpt partition  and the ubuntu installer doesn't detect windows 10 when i try to install,   is there some fix for this without remove and reinstalling windows 10 with and MBR partition or something
[17:40] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Is this to install 15.10, or something else ?
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> 14.04
[17:40] <Skyrid3r> Windows is also installed.
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Really wish this partiton manager for installation was easier.
[17:41] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Oh, so you're dual booting your pc, right ?
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Indeed
[17:41] <Skyrid3r> Installation type is also very slow to load on live :p
[17:42] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: I started out with Windows, went to Disk Management, and allocated space from the Win partition to separate chunked partitions
[17:42] <ubuntu683> Help,  ubuntu installer wont detect preinstalled windows 10 during installation
[17:43] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: You don't need to fomat the partitions, but Linux/Ubuntu installer has to be able to see the part.s to install to them. You got this far, yes ?
[17:43] <Skyrid3r> Ya.. its seeing the unlocated partitions
[17:44] <Skyrid3r> But I'm having a hard time splitting them or setting them because there can only be a max amount of primary partitions.
[17:44] <Skyrid3r> I can't set logical nor extended.
[17:44] <Kira9204> Lorne2: Since your home directory's permissions seems out of place, run the following: "sudo chown -R colin:colin ~" and try again
[17:44] <axk4545> is this an ok place to ask about ubuntu on chromebooks?
[17:44] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: Are you using four physical part.s or more ?
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> What is / installation type btw? everything, including home?
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> ** mount point
[17:45] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: / is system root
[17:45] <Lorne2> Kira9204  : SUCCESS!!!!
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> I am aware, just curious if /home is included in /
[17:45] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: yes
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> Not sure what I should use for root / installation, etc.
[17:45] <Skyrid3r> ** software package, etc.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  max 4 primary partitions, that's correct
[17:45] <Lorne2> Kira9204  : OK that was so awesome - it borders on magical... thx
[17:46] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: / is just the root level directory, /home needs to be created if you don't want to do the easy install, or need a specific size for /home
[17:46] <Skyrid3r> I currently have selected SWAP & /home
[17:46] <ubuntu683> it magically detected it
[17:46] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: In Linux, everything is a "file" relative to the system root (top) level directory
[17:46] <Skyrid3r> Not sure what I should select for the linux itself as mount point.
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  sda1 for / ... sda2 for /home ... /sda3 for swap
[17:47] <Kira9204> Skyrid3r: so you home is in /home/username, various mounts like USB memory cards can be found in /media
[17:47] <Kira9204> and so on
[17:47] <grapilon> Skyrid3r: You're not trying to create an Ubuntu Virtual Machine (VM) right ?
[17:47] <Skyrid3r> I am not, nope :)
[17:47] <DaniKitten> The dowload for ubuntu 14.04 failed
[17:48] <DaniKitten> I'll try with 12.04
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> SDA4 = swap, SDA3 =  EXT4 / and SDA7= EXT /home
[17:48] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What hardware are you using ?
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> **EXT4, sorry.
[17:48] <DaniKitten> A broadcom WiFi controller
[17:48] <Skyrid3r> I think this should be right ^^
[17:49] <DaniKitten> I'll try with and older (and smallest) ubuntu distro
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> Skyrid3r  sda1-4 is primary ... sda5 and higher is extended
[17:49] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What is your goal as far as Ubuntu Linux is concerned...a desktop or a server (or something else) ?
[17:49] <Skyrid3r> Tell that to partition managers.
[17:49] <Skyrid3r> heh
[17:50] <b100s> hi2all
[17:50] <Skyrid3r> SDA1 = ntfs, windows partition (boot).. sda2 does not exist.
[17:50] <DaniKitten> desktop (is a laptop my PC)+
[17:50] <Skyrid3r> 5 & 6 are also ntfs.
[17:50] <b100s> does someone use CounterStrike 1.6 on ubuntu ? : D i watn to remember my childhood but what is the best way to install it?
[17:50] <DaniKitten> grapilon: My laptop is a desktop PC?
[17:50] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What CPU, Mem, HDD, graphics card are you using ?
[17:51] <DaniKitten>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.55 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995.0MiB, 75.7% free ** Disk: Total: 2.5GiB, 56.0% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
[17:51] <DaniKitten> Controller ** Uptime: 2h 45m 26s **
[17:51] <mojtaba> Is there anything like crouton for ubuntu?
[17:51] <DaniKitten> I'm using an SD Card for booting
[17:51] <DaniKitten> and saving everything I download
[17:52] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Is the CPU in 64-bit or 32-bit ?
[17:52] <mojtaba> I am looking for a simple solution to create chroot environment.
[17:52] <mojtaba> (newbie)
[17:52] <DaniKitten> 32-bit
[17:53] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Looking up Intel Atom n270...
[17:54] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Did you already try 15.10 32-bit install ?
[17:54] <DaniKitten> no, I think will be greater
[17:54] <DaniKitten> I will download an older Ubuntu
[17:55] <DaniKitten> 12.04.5
[17:55] <DaniKitten> graphilon: Will be grater, will late more to download
[17:55] <DaniKitten> graphilon: I'll try with 12.04 precise pangolin
[17:55] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Depending on your CPU and mem sizes, the more newer they are, the later the distro and better support will be the case
[17:56] <DaniKitten> yes
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  to create a simple chroot, paste this in a terminal ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15296009/
[17:56] <DaniKitten> I'll burn to DVD and then I'll install to my SD Card
[17:57] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:57] <grapilon> DaniKitten: You can also run Ubuntu on a flash drive, to keep it separate from the computer's hdd...but it's more complicated an install
[17:57] <SomeGuy0011> Anyone else having issues with realtek rtl8723be?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> SomeGuy0011  that's a yes/no question
[17:57] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Yes, but is my only wat
[17:58] <grapilon> DaniKitten: 12.04 is a fairly good distro for your PC, but may not be fully graphical...you may need to run only init 3 versus init 5
[17:59] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Well, graphical is not my first goal
[18:00] <SomeGuy0011> MonkeyDust Mine seems to be very problematic. I downloaded the new drivers from the github repo and executed "sudo echo "options rtl8723be ant_sel=2" > /etc/modprobe.d/50-rtl8723be.conf" but to no avail. My range is extremely poor. My router is about 2 metres away and it can't even find it.
[18:00] <grapilon> DaniKitten: So your choices might lie best in a cmd-line, init 3 level, or...running as a non-graphical Linux, but with system support for various programs that MIGHT be graphically available, such as gparted
[18:02] <grapilon> DaniKitten: My Lenovo Thinkpad W550s runs init 5, a graphical Ubuntu Linux, for 15.10 (laptop is a 2015 model)
[18:02] <DaniKitten> grapilon: Both will be fine
[18:02] <DaniKitten> Yes
[18:02] <DaniKitten> Your laptop is too new, my laptop is HP 2140, from 2009
[18:02] <grapilon> DaniKitten: 12.04 might work. What was your graphics card ?
[18:03] <DaniKitten> I don't known, must be SoundBlaster compatible, Intel(R)
[18:03] <grapilon> DaniKitten: I found that most 2009 PCs can run graphical Ubuntu 12.04
[18:04] <DaniKitten> On the BIOS I can't find info. about my sound card
[18:04] <Kira9204> why not 14 or 15?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  my laptop is from 2009 too, works fine with 14.04
[18:04] <Kira9204> if anything the hardware support is better
[18:04] <grapilon> DaniKitten: What's the BIOS version and make ?
[18:04] <DaniKitten> HP, version 1.0, not compatible with APM Version 1.1
[18:05] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Looking up HP version 1.0...
[18:06] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Ugh, I forgot about HP PCs...Is your BIOS something other than AMI, Phoenix, or Award ? HP, version 1.0 ?
[18:07] <DaniKitten> Yes, is a laptop, It doesn't say if is AMI or Award or Phoenix
[18:07] <DaniKitten> just HP
[18:07] <DaniKitten> Hewlett-Packard
[18:08] <grapilon> DaniKitten: It could be an in-house BIOS, which sometimes is a pain to update/upgrade
[18:08] <DaniKitten> yes
[18:08] <DaniKitten> I've never update
[18:09] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Yeah, so you need to research updating your BIOS, if you cannot load Linux up properly. I'll go check on 12.04 and see if this is still under an LTS. It was a 2010 release, though
[18:10] <DaniKitten> But my laptop is obsolete
[18:10] <DaniKitten> I can't found updates for my BIOS
[18:10] <DaniKitten> from HP website
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> DaniKitten  pastebin the output of  sudo dmidecode --type 2     http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:12] <DaniKitten> Why?
[18:12] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Hmm, indeed. However, the 12.04 is your best bet, since your system is a 2009. What do you plan to do, update your BIOS, d/l 12.04, and/or run a non-graphical Ubuntu Linux ?
[18:13] <DaniKitten> Nothing, I'll try with older Ubuntu until I can run properly
[18:15] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Ubuntu's lead time is about six months before a graphical Linux setup is available. So if your plan is to run any init level Linux, a 2010 Linux version (x86, x86_32 or similar) is ideal
[18:16] <DaniKitten> I'll try
[18:16] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Good luck, and happy weekend to you !
[18:17] <gagalicious> i saw gtar in mac, what's ubuntu equivalent of gtar?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> gagalicious  what's gtar?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !tar
[18:17] <jk> i hve hp 1301 au 2.5gb ram andihave instaled ubantu 14.04 dual but with win 7 now on startup it get hand even i have chnage grub ro to rw
[18:18] <DaniKitten> grapilon: also for you
[18:18] <grapilon> DaniKitten: Thanks !
[18:19] <grapilon> gagalicious: If you're referring to Gnu Tape Archiver, that's what Linux has
[18:22] <grapilon> Hi, those who just joined #ubuntu
[18:23] <DaniKitten> Hello
[18:23] <nickanon> I am not able to add ppa via terminal. when I type command to add ppa it gets struck for an hour. What should I do?
[18:24] <alkisg> nickanon: what command are you using?
[18:24] <grapilon> nickanon: What is ppa ?
[18:24] <nickanon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:numix/ppa
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> grapilon  a ppa is an external software source
[18:24] <alkisg> nickanon: does this return anything? env|grep proxy
[18:25] <nickanon> nothing
[18:25] <nickanon> it just gets struck. No response
[18:25] <grapilon> nickanon: Thanx
[18:25] <delt_> Hello
[18:25] <delt_> what's a good sheet music editor to create musical partitions?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> delt_  better ask in #ubuntustudio
[18:26] <delt_> MonkeyDust: yeah probably...thanks
[18:26] <alkisg> nickanon: can you add other PPAs?
[18:26] <nickanon> nope.. I tried
[18:26] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: how can I destroy the chroot environment?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  moment...
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  sudo umount /var/chroot/proc; sudo rm -r /var/chroot
[18:27] <grapilon> delt: There are three such apps/programs: uw@unaffiliated/cliluw) has joined channel #ubuntu
[18:27] <grapilon> > Skyrid3r: What's your deployment language or script ? Are you going to automate the
[18:27] <grapilon>   install ?
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[18:28] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:28] <grapilon> Whoops, sorry for the flood
[18:28] <delt> grapilon: wuh?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> grapilon  next time, use a !pastebin
[18:28] <alkisg> nickanon: what does this tell you?  apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0F164EE
[18:28] <grapilon> delt: Try this link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3056
[18:28] <alkisg> sudo
[18:28] <nickanon> lol.. it started working... Dont know what was wrong with it
[18:28] <delt> grapilon: thanks
[18:29] <vilitaltti>  /quit
[18:29] <grapilon> delt: yw
[18:30] <grapilon> MonkeyDust: Fair enough, pastebin works :)
[18:30] <delt> grapilon: uh that's from like 20 years ago :D
[18:30] <delt> i had just started using linux by then hehe
[18:30] <grapilon> delt: Well, I didn't mention the date, did I ;)
[18:31] <alkisg> delt, rosegarden last release was on 26th of february
[18:31] <delt> alkisg: might be worth looking into, thanks again
[18:31] <craptalk> i had problem failed to fetch ppa something when i ran sudo apt-get update, and somehow i got this command to fix it, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , did i remove everything on the list dir?
[18:32] <alkisg> Yes but they're recreated on the next apt-get update
[18:32] <delt> heh i didn't even have rosegarden installed on this mint system...how the hell did i survive all these months without it :D
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> delt  mint is not supported here
[18:32] <delt> MonkeyDust: but it is a derivative of ubuntu, right?
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> !mint | delt
[18:33] <delt> ah ok, thanks for the info.
[18:33] <grapilon> delt: I found some more links at LinuxLinks.com. There's also Lilypond, Musescore, Denemo, TuxGuitar, Impro-Visor, Frescobaldi, and Canorus
[18:34] <delt> grapilon: thanks again, i think i have used musescore in the past, but had a few problems with it
[18:34] <R13ose> How do I copy files from command line to a windows machine?  I have tried a number of ways but they are failing.
[18:34] <grapilon> R13ose: Are you dual booting Linux and Windows ?
[18:34] <delt> grapilon: and tuxguitar works "kind of" ok for piano if you invent a guitar with 130 frets and 40 strings :D
[18:34] <villab> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on a new system.  During the install I tried to find a way to encrypt all the predefined partitions except boot and windows.  I was unable to find a way to do this.  There only seems to be options for 'all' or nothing, with the option to encrypt to /home?  Am I just missing something?
[18:35] <R13ose> grapilon: two different machines on the same network
[18:35] <grapilon> delt: Is that what they call a Mandolin ?
[18:35] <delt> haha
[18:35] <delt> mandolin has 4 strings
[18:35] <delt> tuned like a violin in fact
[18:35] <grapilon> R13ose: Easiest way, I think, is to use a flash or thumb drive
[18:35] <delt> well, 4 pairs of strings to be exact
[18:36] <R13ose> grapilon: I don't have one large enough at the moment.
[18:36] <alkisg> R13ose: one easy way is to install openssh-server in linux, and use filezilla+sftp on windows
[18:36] <delt> ok, thanks for all the info guys!
[18:36] <grapilon> delt: Okay.  It was a school in the Philippines
[18:36] <alkisg> R13ose: Why does it need to be command line?
[18:37] <R13ose> alkisg: that seems GUI when I am using command line.
[18:37] <R13ose> alkisg: because I can't boot into GUI
[18:37] <alkisg> R13ose: its' gui on the windows side only
[18:37] <grapilon> R13ose: What size of files are you looking to copy ?
[18:37] <alkisg> It's command line on the linux side
[18:37] <DaniKitten> No
[18:37] <R13ose> the total directory is 18.8GB
[18:38] <R13ose> I am using a liveusb and the openssh-server is not a command there and not sure I can install
[18:38] <alkisg> R13ose: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on linux, and download filezilla portable on windows. No gui needed on linux. But of course you could also do it via smbclient or via a linux live cd
[18:38] <stegbth> Hi
[18:38] <stegbth> i found an old Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
[18:39] <grapilon> R13ose: As an aside, if you have a USB 3.0 port, the transfer will be a bit faster
[18:39] <alkisg> R13ose: a liveusb without GUI and without the ability to install software? Why don't you use an ubuntu live stick?
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> stegbth  10.04 is !eol
[18:39] <ubuntu789> Hi,  I'm trying to configure my wireless driver in Ubuntu,  I know my card is a Qualcomm atheros,  but I am not sure exactly which model,  how can I go about finding this out?
[18:39] <grapilon> stegbth: That is worthy of a museum piece :)
[18:39] <stegbth> when i try to "do-release-upgrade" it hangs at some missing packages and screen ends
[18:39] <R13ose> my usbkey is only 120MB
[18:39] <stegbth> i know this eol
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | stegbth
[18:40] <alkisg> R13ose: and you're sure you can't just apt-get install openssh-server while it's running?
[18:40] <stegbth> a time ago
[18:40] <grapilon> ubuntu789: Have you looked it up in /proc ?
[18:40] <squinty> stegbth,  i would lose it again.  no support   which explains the problems you are facing
[18:40] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  I'm not too familiar with linux
[18:40] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  not sure what you mean
[18:41] <stegbth> squinty, i am here cause there are upgrade problems. i on the way to upgrade
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | ubuntu789 start here
[18:41] <piglit> what is a good command to see what kind of pc belongs to a certain IP ?
[18:41] <stegbth> ubottu, thanks i will try
[18:41] <grapilon> ubuntu789: If Linux has found the Qualcomm Atheros card/device, there will be an entry in /proc that might denote "Qualcomm", "Atheros", or similar
[18:42] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  I've successfully installed broadcom drivers,  I know how to go about installing them,   but it just says qualcomm atheros no exact model number i just want to be sure i install the right thing thats all but thanks I will read
[18:42] <grapilon> piglit: Have you tried netstat ?
[18:43] <R13ose> alkisg: I can't and read that tce-load might be the command to use but when I do tce-load -wi openssh-server nothing happens.
[18:43] <grapilon> ubuntu789: You can traverse the /proc directory. This is the cmd-line version of yast
[18:45] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  says my card works out of the box,  but it does not
[18:45] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  says my card works out of the box actually disregard that
[18:46] <graps> ubuntu789: Are you checking for the card in Linux ? Are you using a graphical tool ?
 how does it work if i want to know who <IP_ADDRESS> is ?
[18:46] <graps> piglit: Try "netstat <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:47] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  not sure what you mean,  lspci  only tells me my card is qualcomm atheros, I'm just trying to find the right driver for it so I can install it so my wifi works
[18:48] <graps> ubuntu789: A good method would be to look it up in Windows, if you have dual-booted your PC. Otherwise, is it a separate device from your PC ? Is it plugged in or attached by a cable ?
[18:48] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  it's built in card , laptop,  yeah I have dual boot,
[18:49] <piglit> graps: i dont have windows ....
[18:49] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042]    is all i can find lol
[18:49] <graps> ubuntu789: You've tried searching it in Google/Ixquick ?
[18:50] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  been scouring google always before i come to this IRC channel
[18:50] <graps> piglit: netstat provides connected items, sorta like ports, that describe what is connected to your system. If you do a man netstat, you'll get more detalis
[18:50] <graps> detalis > details
[18:50] <SchrodingersScat> !info nmap | piglit
[18:51] <ubuntu789> grapilon:  think my driver is "ath9k" now
[18:51] <graps> ubuntu789: Yeah, I think you've got a lead there. Also, Qualcomm's website...you've checked there ?
[18:52] <piglit> graps: it is not connected to my pc
[18:52] <ubuntu789> graps:  yeah well I know my card is qualcomm atheros i just cant seem to get an output for an exact model
[18:52] <hp_> Hola
[18:52] <graps> piglit: That's good, I guess ? :) Otherwise, check nmap too
[18:53] <graps> hp_: Hola, que tal ?
[18:53] <R13ose> Any other thoughts?
[18:53] <ioria> R13ose, about what ?
[18:53] <graps> R13ose: Have you tried Costco or Best Buy for cheaper thumb drives ?
[18:53] <R13ose> I might go there
[18:54] <R13ose> ioria: transferring files over to a windows machine from a live usb key
[18:54] <graps> ubuntu789: I'd try to open up the PC and read the card directly, to see if it is printed on the board or fan or something
[18:54] <ioria> R13ose, install an ftp server on win ?
[18:54] <R13ose> ioria: this is 18.8GB
[18:55] <ioria> R13ose, oh...
[18:55] <ubuntu789> graps:  this laptop is gay,  you literally have to take it right apart to get the HDD out,
[18:55] <graps> R13ose: The last time I bought, a 128GB thumb drive at Best Buy was going for $50
[18:56] <ioria> R13ose, well, you can mount with cifs a win folder, and copy the file over it ?
[18:56] <R13ose> Yes and I will do that but I can't at the moment.
[18:56] <graps> ubuntu789: Probably not gay, probably heterosexual ;)
[18:56] <ballison> trying to upgrade my old version of ubuntu and i'm running "do-release-upgrade" and it's just bombing and exiting with the error "Aborting"
[18:56] <R13ose> ioria: yes but how am I able to see the win folder?
[18:56] <craptalk> is 700MB enough for backing up my ubuntu file system?
[18:57] <ubuntu789> graps:  well yeah. grrr
[18:57] <craptalk> making disc image perhaps?
[18:57] <graps> craptalk: Depends on what you're backing up
[18:57] <craptalk> graps: the whole system, so then if something happen i can just put it into my cdRom
[18:58] <craptalk> or maybe clonezilla?
[18:58] <ballison> great pastebin is dead
[18:58] <graps> craptalk: If you have large data files, like .mov or .avi, then you might need a larger backup device/instrument (maybe a thumb drive, 64 or 128 GB)
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> ballison  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:59] <craptalk> graps: well, i was thinking about putting it into multiple discs, since i have CD-R several pieces here, and 700 MB each
[18:59] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ijivijomit
[19:00] <ballison> thats what happens when i try to do a release upgrade
[19:00] <alkisg> R13ose: if you're using tinycorelinux, what are you doing asking for support in #ubuntu?!
[19:00] <ioria> R13ose,  create a folder on win (give permissions or select Public) and sudo mount -t cifs -o username= ,password=  //ip/folder  /home/user/mountpoint
[19:00] <DoverMo> i'm getting a whopping 0-35 kb/s from us.archive.ubuntu
[19:00] <DoverMo> anyone else?
[19:00] <R13ose> alkisg: because my system crash was a ubuntu distro
[19:00] <graps> craptalk: Yes, 700MB is good for CD-R/RW discs, but your box or container you keep them in will need to accommodate a lot of discs, and sooner rather than later
[19:00] <craptalk> graps: last time i did it for my windows system, it spitted it out, couldnt continue, dont know why, i thougt i was following its steps
[19:00] <ioria> R13ose,  cifs-utils required
[19:00] <alkisg> R13ose: and how are we going to help you install e.g. openssh in tinycorelinux? we know ubuntu, not tinycorelinux...
[19:01] <craptalk> graps: i want to use all of them since i have bought it
[19:01] <R13ose> alkisg: true, sorry, I will walk away
[19:01] <craptalk> graps: but i failed to do it the last time i tried
[19:01] <R13ose> ioria: I don't have that
[19:01] <graps> craptalk: Sure, that's fine.
[19:01] <alkisg> R13ose: just get an ubuntu live stick
[19:01] <ioria> R13ose,  install it
[19:01] <graps> craptalk: What CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive do you use ?
[19:02] <R13ose> ioria: not letting me
[19:02] <DoverMo> it could be the storm/rain f**king up wires
[19:02] <ioria> R13ose,  ohh
[19:02] <ballison> Aborting
[19:02] <R13ose> alkisg: is there one ubuntu live stick that is smaller then 120MB?
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: like its brand?
[19:02] <graps> craptalk: Yes
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: how to check it?
[19:02] <craptalk> graps: maybe hitachi something, toshiba maybe?
[19:03] <graps> craptalk: If you can't find it in /proc, then you might have to search for it via /dev or open the PC up
[19:03] <ubuntu789> graps:  well... its atheros  168c:0042 (rev 30)
[19:03] <touil76> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. My dmesg shows warning from apparmor concerning evince and evince-thumbnailer, both being denied the access to the /usr/local/lib/liblcms2.so.2.0.6 file. Any clue of the cause of this behaviour ?
[19:03] <ballison> is it not possible to upgrade from lucid?
[19:03] <ubuntu789> graps:  posts seem to be complicated to get this workign
[19:03] <craptalk> graps: let me see
[19:03] <graps> ubuntu789: Have you already tried the Qualcomm site ?
[19:04] <UbuntuDude> everytime I'm trying to print the default paper size is Letter and I've manually change to A4 on every single hectic printing job ... how to make A4 the default once and forever
[19:04] <UbuntuDude> :((
[19:04] <DoverMo> unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ wtf
[19:04] <ubuntu789> graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me
[19:04] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you tried tinkering with the printer driver ?
[19:05] <alkisg> R13ose: your usb stick is only 120 mb, or does it only have that free space left in it? You could easily move a couple of files e.g. in windows temporarily...
[19:05] <UbuntuDude> graps: nope .. where that is?
[19:05] <ubuntu789> graps:  cant find nothing on there to help me
[19:05] <R13ose> alkisg: that is the same of the usb stick
[19:05] <pilne> sometimes i wonder just how people run into these problems... like... what are you poking at to encounter these issues?
[19:05] <ubuntu789> graps:  site is useless
[19:05] <graps> ubuntu789: Well, yeah, the Q-comm site is rather large. Have you tried in Google "Qualcomm Atheros version description location" ?
[19:05] <DoverMo> ok for some reason apt-get didn't quit
[19:06] <ubuntu789> graps:  description location?
[19:06] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:06] <R13ose> alkisg: size*
[19:06] <graps> ubuntu789: Something like that, or "Atheros version board desc"
[19:06] <ballison> so it's not possible to upgrade from lucid ?
[19:06] <alkisg> R13ose: I've never heard of usb sticks of 120MB size
[19:07] <R13ose> alkisg: I know me either
[19:07] <graps> ballison: Is lucid a graphical tool ?
[19:07] <craptalk> graps: i got its vendor info as in ATAPI
[19:07] <alkisg> R13ose: well, you could burn a cd then
[19:07] <alkisg> Or use mini.iso to install a minimal system
[19:07] <graps> alkisg: Maybe a usb stick of 128 MB
[19:07] <ballison> graps: I thought this channel was for ubuntu
[19:07] <DoverMo> okay. well i'm only getting 60% of my normal connection, however the us.archive.ubuntu server is only running at about 7% or less of what it could be
[19:07] <R13ose> alkisg: there is no CD ROM Drive on that machine
[19:07] <ballison> deb http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main universe
[19:08] <ballison> lucid is a version of ubuntu
[19:08] <graps> craptalk: That's the generic
[19:08] <alkisg> R13ose: you don't need one there, you can use the livecd on another pc and a one-line netboot script
[19:08] <DoverMo> ballison, is there a server list?
[19:08] <touil76> Nobody for me ?
[19:08] <ballison> DoverMo???
[19:08] <graps> ballison: You can upgrade anything.  I tried several time on windows as well .. it's seems to be every OS issue .. the default keep comming back to Letter instead of A4 doesn't matter how manytimes I change it from control panel or printer properties
[19:08] <R13ose> alkisg: can I do that with USB too?
[19:08] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:08] <alkisg> R13ose: I don't know of any proper 120 mb live usb sticks
[19:08] <DoverMo> ballison, i need a list of servers in the us. us.archive is broke
[19:09] <UbuntuDude> e.g. https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/r800__/r800__rf/vari_4.htm
[19:09] <squinty> ubuntu789:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #9
[19:09] <alkisg> With an 1GB stick, sure
[19:09] <graps> UbuntuDude: Nothing's better than writing your own printer driver
[19:09] <craptalk> graps: so is there any lead to my case? cause i failed to do it into multiple discs?
[19:09] <graps> UbuntuDude: But, I empathize with your plight
[19:09] <R13ose> alkisg: I do and there are a few.
[19:09] <alkisg> R13ose: well, use one with openssh or samba client in it then
[19:10] <DoverMo> or i guess mirrors
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> graps: thanks f I don't need your empathy
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> graps: thanks but I don't need your empathy
[19:10] <graps> craptalk: Have you reasearched the method with which you are trying to back up system and data files ?
[19:10] <UbuntuDude> I'm just looking for a permanent solution to this issue
[19:10] <Gallomimia> touil76: note that 12.04 is out of support by now... might be why no one knows the answer
[19:10] <ubuntu827> was trying to solve atheros wireless driver problem accidentally logged out forgot who i was talking to
[19:10] <Gallomimia> 3years on desktop isn't it??
[19:11] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you tried searching through the printer's website ?
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> !12.04
[19:11] <DoverMo> i'll just try out this mirror
[19:11] <Gallomimia> oh it is still. ok
[19:11] <graps> ubuntu827: Are you familiar with ubuntu789 ?
[19:11] <craptalk> graps: i was on google all the time, well, maybe i am giving you a vague explanation, anyway will tell you next time if i really having the same thing
[19:11] <ubuntu827> graps:   that was me lol
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> Gallomimia: I forget if that's before or after they included desktop with server version support.
[19:11] <graps> craptalk: Okay
[19:12] <touil76> Thank you Gallomimia.
[19:12] <graps> ubuntu827: So, what was it you were trying to do, again ?
[19:12] <Gallomimia> yeah. seems it is still within support, but just barely
[19:12] <alkisg> touil76: why do you have a local liblcms2 instead of using the one from ubuntu?
[19:12] <pilne> well with 16.04 on the horizon... yeah
[19:13] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure if i'll upgrade to 16.04 any time soon. i'll need to spend some time getting familiar with systemd
[19:13] <ubuntu827> graps:   install the driver for my Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev 30) so that the wifi card works
[19:13] <graps> Gallomimia: Just man that daemon, or look it up in the Internet
[19:13] <craptalk> graps: i have been using linux over a year perhaps, but i think there is more to it than just tweaking or changing some theme, do you know where should i look up to know more about its system? is it even good to know it? since linux giving us permission to know the system
[19:13] <squinty> ubuntu827:  may or may not be of use   http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=305292  see comment #9
[19:14] <DoverMo> oh yey. this local mirror actually works
[19:14] <graps> ubuntu827: Yeah...try looking on Google, or Ixquick, for the wifi card. You may have to update the BIOS, which would be beneficial for Windows, and maybe Linux, if someone's already written a driver to access the card
[19:15] <ubuntu827> graps:   k brb
[19:15] <graps> craptalk: Yeah, ubuntu.com and a few other places (maybe linuxlinks.com) can point you in the proper direction
[19:15] <ballison> do-release-upgrade fails for me
[19:16] <ballison> is there something else i should run that replaces do-release-upgrade since do-release-upgrade does not work?
[19:16] <DoverMo> ballison, whats the fail message
[19:16] <R13ose> alkisg: I think I got openssh to install on there.  What is the next step?
[19:17] <alkisg> R13ose: can you run `ssh user@localhost` ?
[19:17] <alkisg> If yes, then use filezilla on windows to transfer the files
[19:17] <touil76> alkisg : No idea.
[19:18] <alkisg> touil76: then remove it from /usr/local
[19:18] <ballison> DoverMo: again --> http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:18] <ballison> it's just giving me an "Aborting" at the end.
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> graps  https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=Ubuntu+Linux+Toolbox.pdf
[19:19] <R13ose> alkisg: connection is failing but this mean that ssh is installed.
[19:19] <DoverMo> ballison, the translation mirrors didn't update
[19:19] <touil76> When I try to remove it with synaptic, it says it is used by many programs. So I don't want to.
[19:20] <R13ose> alkisg: I have to setup a filezilla thing on my windows machine?
[19:20] <alkisg> R13ose: it's a portable .exe
[19:20] <ballison> DoverMo: what's the mean?
[19:20] <DoverMo> ballison, it means that apt-get update failed for some reason. try running the command byitself
[19:20] <R13ose> alkisg: link?
[19:21] <graps> MonkeyDust: I would have to create a Dropbox account, which, I think...I did, a year ago. However, I lost the password ;)
[19:21] <ballison> apt-get update works
[19:21] <alkisg> R13ose: i'm sure you'll find it in google, first hit etc
[19:21] <DoverMo> ballison, it doesn't spit out any warnings?
[19:21] <squinty> R13ose, might also want to take a lool at WinSCP (freebie) for windows
[19:21] <ballison> nope.  no errors
[19:21] <R13ose> alkisg: the client one?
[19:21] <alkisg> Yup
[19:21] <squinty> look that is
[19:22] <graps> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the link. I'll Ixquick it and peruse the toolbox
[19:22] <DoverMo> ballison, then possibly the mirrors have out of date translation packages
[19:22] <ballison> i'm currently 10.04 trying to go to i guess precise
[19:22] <R13ose> alkisg: okay I am looking into this.
[19:22] <DoverMo> oh geez
[19:22] <ballison> DoverMo: Right.  I'm currenlty at lucid.
[19:23] <day2ubuntu> is a lxde session different from lubuntu session different from ubuntu session?
[19:23] <ioria> ballison, you already read this , right ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:23] <day2ubuntu> from login
[19:23] <graps> day2ubuntu: In a word, yes :)
[19:23] <DoverMo> ballison, okay
[19:23] <ecdhe> I have windows10 installed and want to dual-boot ubuntu.  With win7, the ubuntu livecd installer gave me the option to "install alongside" windows, but it doesn't seem to recognized it now.
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> day2ubuntu  lxde/lubuntu is lighter than unity/ubuntu
[19:24] <graps> day2ubuntu: However, getting more into the session definition, there are similarities
[19:24] <ecdhe> How can I get Ubuntu to install grub so that it will start both windows 10 and ubuntu?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  not
[19:24] <graps> ecdhe: Are you using the Grub2 loader ?
[19:24] <R13ose> alkisg: okay I have this installed, now what?
[19:24] <DoverMo> ballison, did you try this? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  you boot one at a time
[19:25] <graps> MonkeyDust: Heh heh
[19:25] <alkisg> R13ose: now you use it to connect via sftp to the linux openssh server, and transfer your files
[19:25] <DoverMo> ballison, replace vi with nano
[19:25] <ecdhe> graps, I just have the livecd installer, and I don't want to run it and just wipe out my windows boot partition.
[19:25] <graps> ecdhe: I agree, don't wipe out any partitions
[19:26] <graps> ecdhe: Are you familiar with dual booting ?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> ecdhe  but they cannot boot simultaneously
[19:26] <ecdhe> It seems like with XP, windows had a single, bootable partition.  When ubuntu "installed alongside" it would create a boot (with grub there), a swap, and a root partition, and configure grub to point to windows.
[19:27] <ecdhe> But all this happened automatically.
[19:27] <ecdhe> Now with Win10, it's got its own boot partition.
[19:27] <lustic> graps:   i went through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304250   it really seemed like it was going to work but nothing after reboot
[19:27] <lustic> graps:  im the atheros guy
[19:27] <ecdhe> And the livecd installer doesn't seem to recognize it as an OS with which it can coexist.
[19:28] <graps> ecdhe: It all happened automagically with two boot options (or more), right ?
[19:28] <ballison> DoverMo: yes i did a google first. :)
[19:29] <UbuntuDude> graps: I'm really wondering what you're trying to do here! are you really trying to help to mock people who asks ubuntu related questions? anyway .. I found the solution and it has ZERO relation with driver, it's all about the ubuntu
[19:29] <lustic> IMPOSSIBLE to get my wifi working
[19:29] <graps> lustic: Okay. Looking at the thread...
[19:29] <ballison> DoverMo: I think the problem is i have to use "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com" instead
[19:29] <ecdhe> graps, the Ubuntu livecd installer would set this up automatically.
[19:29] <craptalk> after i partition some free space for my ubuntu and i just want to rejoin its partition another, but i cant do it, do you know why? i tried to delete the volume but i cant rejoin it to another partition? please help
[19:29] <DoverMo> ballison, that's what i was thinking. even though 10.04 is technically lts, you might have to use old-releases
[19:29] <graps> UbuntuDude: Sorry about my facetiousness. Anyway, right on, you've solved your problem
[19:29] <lustic> graps:  i tried yours suggested thread but the file requested by wget wouldn't work
[19:30] <ballison> DoverMo:  Nope that bombs out as well.
[19:30] <R13ose> alkisg: I need to start the server on the linux side first right?
[19:30] <DoverMo> ballison, how does it bomb
[19:30] <ballison> So it's not possible to upgrade a lucid ubuntu server?
[19:30] <DoverMo> same error?
[19:30] <alkisg> R13ose: you first need to make ssh localhost succeed, yes
[19:30] <ballison> DOverMo: same error
[19:31] <Anny> #django
[19:31] <DoverMo> ballison, old-releases SHOULD at the very least upgrade you to the next version up until 13.10. hmm. why not just to apt-get clean to start?
[19:31] <UbuntuDude> graps: Yes and thanks for your useless unrelated questions which helped me to find solutions on my own.
[19:31] <UbuntuDude> seriously
[19:31] <graps> lustic: Not sure about your Atheros card. Maybe ask the room about your current problem
[19:32] <ballison> DoverMo: Did not work.
[19:32] <graps> UbuntuDude: Well, I'm glad you were able to solve your issue. This would be different if I was being paid to help users in here
[19:32] <UbuntuDude> anyway I'm documenting all these issues in one big log and probably will write some book about it and share online
[19:32] <R13ose> alkisg: I am getting an error "ssh connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused."  I am trying to do ssh tc@localhost start or with an ip address.
[19:33] <ballison> should i go change all my sources.list lines from lucid to precise ?
[19:33] <UbuntuDude> noobs need more assistance than just keep asking em what they did or didn't do
[19:33] <alkisg> R13ose: I can't help you with tinycorelinux, I'm not using it, try asking it its irc channel, whatever that is
[19:33] <graps> UbuntuDude: Good.  I'll try to organize and shape it in a good pdf format before uploading online
[19:34] <ballison> DoverMo: do-release-upgrade is creating a sources.list.distUpgrade, but it's not actually changing the version
[19:34] <graps> UbuntuDude: Now I remember why I keep coming back to irc: It's the people
[19:34] <DoverMo> ballison, also, did you uncomment partner and extras?
[19:34] <DoverMo> ballison, that might help
[19:35] <teo_> hey
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i've heard many bad things about do-release-upgrade
[19:35] <ballison> i don't have partner and extras
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i've heard recommendations not to use it. to backup and clean install instead
[19:35] <DoverMo> Gallomimia, it's a lot better than fedora's methods xD
[19:35] <Gallomimia> i figure that since it's not something that gets used often, so it doesn't get many bug reports
[19:35] <ballison> DoverMo: I updated sources.list from lucid to precise.... going to try do-release-upgrade now
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> i tried do-release upgrade for testing purposes, it took hours and i had to stay at the pc, to confirm some settings
[19:36] <Gallomimia> measuring yourself by someone else's yardstick is a good way to wind up disappointed all the time.
[19:36] <Gallomimia> but agreed. it's better
[19:36] <Ben64> Gallomimia: it works very well unless you have a bunch of PPAs
[19:36] <xangua> ballison: do not edit your source list manually
[19:36] <UbuntuDude> graps: same reasons why I keep running away from irc every now and then it's people
[19:36] <DoverMo> fedoras post-upgrade or yum methods were bollocks
[19:37] <ballison> xangua: before lucid, that's how you would do it.
[19:37] <graps> UbuntuDude: Thank God the cycle comes back full circle. If people could solve their own problems, we'd all be doctors or PhD's
[19:37] <Ben64> ballison: pretty sure that was never how to do it
[19:37] <xangua> ballison: no
[19:37] <Gallomimia> in either case... it's not a simple thing to test. and the best testing comes from regular users reporting errors in strange use-cases
[19:38] <ballison> xangua: do-releases-upgrade does not work for lucid
[19:38] <ballison> is there a solution for this?
[19:38] <graps> UbuntuDude: Have you considered working for a non-profit company ?
[19:38] <ballison> xangua: http://hastebin.com/raw/ugikicuvid
[19:38] <Gallomimia> can you imagine how many system's you'd need to run and rerun constantly to effectively test the do-release-upgrade ?
[19:38] <xangua> ! Eol | ballison did you follow the instructions?
[19:39] <DoverMo> ballison, did you even try uncommenting those 2 translation mirrors
[19:39] <xangua> It would also be faster to fresh install a supported release
[19:39] <ballison> DoverMo: no idea what mirrors you are talking about
[19:39] <ballison> DoverMo: when i do a 'apt-get update" i get no errors
[19:39] <DoverMo> ballison, *picardfacepalm.jpg* the 2 mirrors that are GIVING the errors
[19:40] <ballison> DoverMo: No mirrors are giving any errors
[19:40] <DoverMo> ballison,Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/main Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Translation-en
[19:40] <DoverMo> kk
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> DoverMo  next time, use a pastebin
[19:41] <ballison> when i changed to old-releases.ubuntu.com those went away
[19:41] <Ben64> your paste doesn't show that
[19:41] <ballison> Ben64: updating hastebin now.
[19:43] <ballison> nevermind - I got more errors for old-releases.ubuntu.com  :(
[19:43] <ioria> ballison, can you paste  sources.list ?
[19:45] <ballison> sure
[19:45]  * graps looks around
[19:45] <DoverMo> 10.04 is lts, so it should upgrade without old-release. If the translation mirror, or any mirror is giving an err, it should be uncommented
[19:45] <DoverMo> basic logics
[19:45] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/owayaziduz
[19:46] <SchrodingersScat> !10.04
[19:46] <DoverMo> so uncomment translation-en
[19:46] <ballison> DoverMo: lts or not  it bombs when i do a "do-release-upgrade"
[19:47] <ioria> ballison, you 're on lucid now ?  if you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> ballison  fresh install takes about 15-20 minutes
[19:47] <ballison> DoverMo: I don't know what you mean by "uncomment translation-en"  There is no "translatio-en" in my sources.list.
[19:48] <neyder_> hi there, i got this anoying ads with every page I visit from this domain: ww1.searchadredirect.com
[19:49] <graps> neyder_: Are you being forced to go to that page ?
[19:49] <neyder_> i'm using firefox 44.0.2 in wily
[19:50] <neyder_> graps, it is forced because i write or click a link, page loads but after a second it is redirected to that domain
[19:50] <ballison> DoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/guwuxadele
[19:50] <ballison> DoverMo: What are you telling me to uncomment?
[19:50] <ballison> there's nothing to uncomment.
[19:51] <graps> neyder_: I did a search on that page with Ixquick, and no web results are found. Maybe it's on a redirection script or command
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> neyder_  delete the ~/.cache folder, restart FF ... guess that will solve it
[19:52] <ballison> And here's the results of it failing on a "do-release-upgrade"
[19:52] <ballison> http://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu
[19:52] <graps> MonkeyDust: Do you think neyder_ should also check the hosts file ?
[19:52] <ballison> notice at the topic it does a "apt-get update" and that works... then it does i don't know what and starts getting ERRs
[19:52] <tsimonq2> hmm, this is really weird, all YouTube videos and everything on my system is sped up, it's not only YouTube
[19:53] <ballison> DoverMo: where is it getting Translation-en from ???
[19:54] <ballison> i see on the paste that it did a get and pulled it... but why?
[19:54] <neyder_> graps, nothing in hosts two lines <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:54] <ballison> i did a recursive grep on /etc/apt looking for TranlationsIndex and got nothing back
[19:54] <ballison> so where is it getting that from?
[19:54] <neyder_> graps, common ipv6 lines, and 3 lines at my own
[19:55] <graps> neyder_: Okay, then maybe you could change your landing page when you start the browser
[19:55] <ballison> "do-release-upgrade" failing on lucid server --> http://hastebin.com/raw/xupizegowu
[19:55] <neyder_> start page is duck duck go
[19:56] <ballison> DoverMo: I don't know where it's getting all the "Translation-en" stuff from... and that's what's breaking it.
[19:57] <graps> neyder_: Okay, then...ww1.searchadredirect.com, is it bothering your web browsing ?
[19:58] <neyder_> graps, yup and some times it appears to false adult pages
[19:58] <ballison> i tried this and it did not work either --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt
[19:59] <ioria> ballison, can  you run sudo apt-get upgrade   and  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[20:00] <neyder_> It's weird since it started on my android every time i was reading pages with Feedly,  my app get freezed and only showing adds, the the same got me on desktop with firefox and feedly, and now with any page I visit
[20:00] <SchrodingersScat> great, you've isolated the problem
[20:01] <neyder_> MonkeyDust, it seems that it worked, how do you know
[20:01] <graps> neyder_: Hmm, have you tried MonkeyDust's suggestion already ?
[20:01] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/ukeyafogir
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> neyder_  not the first time, some piece of code in a webpage, that's stored in ~/.cache
[20:01] <ballison> ioria: nothing to update
[20:02] <neyder_> graps, yes, and It seems that worked, clicking on links and old pages that got redirected.
[20:02] <graps> Make a note of it ! Good tip
[20:02] <lustic> graps:  you there
[20:02] <graps> lustic: Hi again
[20:02] <lustic> graps:  i am now wireless!
[20:02] <ioria> ballison, cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[20:02] <neyder_> I'll try to clear cache in feedly and firefox apps in android, it was a painto read news and browins mobile
[20:03] <graps> lustic: Congrtulations ! You just needed a little push ;)
[20:03] <neyder_> thanks MonkeyDust graps
[20:03] <graps> neyder_: yw
[20:03] <lustic> graps:  in the end i found a simple package all I had to do was run an .sh file in a package   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584&page=2&p=13414356&viewfull=1#post13414356   its the first post,  so simple someone made it for me
[20:03] <ballison> ioria: http://hastebin.com/raw/umixidipix
[20:03] <lustic> graps:  thanks for all your patience man,  this chat room has helped me countlessss times cause of people like you
[20:04] <graps> lustic: Well, don't forget that this is free advice too. Some people expect a lot of things when they have to pay for the information
[20:04] <graps> lustic: Teach someone else, pay it forward :)
[20:05] <ioria> ballison,  have you tried changing repos  (not the old.relese) ?
[20:05] <ballison> ioria: i tried old-release
[20:05] <ballison> but i shouldn't have to.  should be able to just run "do-release-upgrade"
[20:05] <lustic> graps:  oh I know, i seen someone cursing your name earlier haha,  in my opinion this room is full of highly skilled advice,   yeah I'm not the most technical as most here but I still help if I read something  can help with , anyway im out thanks a lot man!
[20:06] <graps> lustic: See you later
[20:07] <ballison> DoverMo: I got no ERR's this time.  I've disabled the Translation-en gets, and so i got no errors and it still bombed on me.
[20:07] <ballison> DoverMo:  http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze
[20:07] <ballison> ioraia: http://hastebin.com/raw/huyibugeze  <- that what i get from do-release-upgrade
[20:09] <ioria> ballison,   df -H
[20:09] <rakesh71> hai
[20:09] <ballison> plenty of space. 13% used
[20:09] <rakesh71> clear
[20:09] <graps> rakesh71: Hi
[20:09] <day3ubuntu> I opened a .conf file, but when i try to save it won't.  How do I save the changes?
[20:10] <ballison> I got it working
[20:10] <rakesh71> with which editor you opened
[20:10] <day3ubuntu> I think it defualted "mousepad"
[20:10] <ballison> ioria: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  and in which folder? for anything outside /home, you need sudo
[20:11] <day3ubuntu> can I sudo from an editor to save?
[20:11] <ioria> ballison,  ^*^
[20:11] <ioria> ballison,  omg
[20:12]  * graps thinks it's high time to leave
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  use gksu for gui programs ... eg: gksu gedit [file]
[20:12] <ioria> ballison,  "don't do this unless you know what you are doing"
[20:12] <day3ubuntu> monkeydust it is a /usr/share file
[20:13] <graps> All right all, it's been fun, and a bit scary too ! See you all later
[20:13] <Saeid> hi, i use this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and install nvidia-319 but can't use optirun and lsmod | grep nvidia don't get me any output plz help me
[20:13] <ihmSelbst_> hi all
[20:13] <Saeid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15298566/
[20:13] <mattkim> hi
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  ok, in a terminal, type   gksu /usr/share/[filename]
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> day3ubuntu  or sudo -e /usr/share/[filename]   to edit in terminal
[20:15] <ballison> ioria: It's working now.  I had to use these two pages to get through the errors:
[20:15] <ballison> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74653/how-can-i-remove-the-translation-entries-in-apt
[20:15] <ballison>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade
[20:16] <ballison> and now 'do-release-upgrade" works.
[20:16] <Elliptic_Curve> hello everybody
[20:18] <ballison> DoverMo and ioria:  Thank you fo your help !
[20:18] <Elliptic_Curve> you are welcome
[20:18] <ioria> ballison, solved ?
[20:19] <ballison> ioria: well it's upgrading the OS right now.  :)
[20:19] <ioria> ballison, ok.....
[20:20] <FourFire> Hello, i am trying to get openCL installed on ubuntu 15.10
[20:21] <squinty> Saeid,  maybe take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics    seem to recall that nvidia-prime is recommended these days over bumblebee
[20:21] <FourFire> I have followed this guide: http://www.eriksmistad.no/getting-started-with-opencl-and-gpu-computing/ (subsituting the latest version)
[20:22] <FourFire> However, the application which I am compiling with opencl flag is giving an error as follows:
[20:22] <Saeid> squinty, ok tnx :)
[20:22] <FourFire> "Could not find OPENCL (missing: OPENCL_LIBRARY) (Found version "2.0")"
[20:23] <FourFire> so WTF, it's installed but it's the wrong version?
[20:23] <FourFire> the program I am trying to compile with cmake is GROMACS 5.1.2, a molecular dynamics simulation program
[20:24] <SchrodingersScat> !language | FourFire
[20:24] <FourFire> SchrodingersScat, apologies, I've been strugling with this issue on an off for a couple of months now...
[20:27] <bass> bizzare bug I think - i change the "file association" of mp4 files ... and something immediately changes it back! how to fix this??
[20:28] <plytro> how are you changing it?
[20:29] <bass> plytro: System Settings > Configure file associations
[20:29] <EriC^^> bass: try find ~ ! -user $USER
[20:29] <squinty> highlight file name in nautilus -> right click -> properties -> open with -> select program -> make default
[20:30] <plytro> I was going to say what squinty said
[20:30] <EriC^^> it might be a permissions issue in the home dir
[20:31] <bbaqar> I am getting a "Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory error" while I am starting a service on 15.10 for the first time.  I know that there is no "/lib/systemd/system/libvirtd.service" but where do i set this right in my service?
[20:31] <profall> Anyone help me out with this command http://pastebin.com/vcXLrawy
[20:32] <EriC^^> bbaqar: systemctl enable <service> to copy the symlinks
[20:32] <bass> squinty: plytro: I tried the squinty nautilus method and it still switches back !
[20:33] <EriC^^> bbaqar: your service is trying to load libvirtd ?
[20:33] <bbaqar> EriC^^: Yes it is
[20:33] <EriC^^> bass: give "find ~ ! -user $USER" a shot
[20:33] <neyder_> profall, just put it all in yourlauncher
[20:34] <bbaqar> So i changed libvirtd to libvirt-bin in the /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/<service-name>.service file
[20:35] <bbaqar> EriC^^: but got the same error " Unit libvirtd.service failed to load: No such file or directory"
[20:35] <bass> - EriC^^ yeah permissions looks a possible culprit - i ran "find ~ ! -user $USER" in my home dir and nothing
[20:36] <EriC^^> bbaqar: i think you should check the script that's launching from the original service's config
[20:36] <EriC^^> bass: that's a good thing, all the permissions are fine
[20:37] <neyder_> profall, http://pastebin.com/Lu03QDP2
[20:37] <EriC^^> bass: must be something else
[20:37] <bass> EriC^^:  good that they are right - but bad that I still dont know where the file associations are being reset
[20:37] <EriC^^> bass: do other associations stick?
[20:38] <EriC^^> bass: yeah exactly
[20:38] <bass> good question EriC^^ I'll try hang on
[20:40] <bbaqar> EriC^^: the first thing thats mentioned over there is Requires=libvirt-bin.service
[20:40] <FourFire> Hmm, I guess I email some of the gromacs developers
[20:41] <bbaqar> EriC^^: So where else to look?
[20:41] <bass> OK here we have the results - changing file association for mp3 works fine, same for .mkv, but with .mp4 it switches back immediately - something crazy
[20:41] <ejbs_> can I somehow pass a for-loop’s counter to the template? such as for(i =0…){tmpl_func<i>(…)} ?
[20:42] <\9> ejbs_: this is ubuntu support. (but for your question, assuming this is c++, no, because template parameters are decided at compile time)
[20:42] <bekks> ejbs_: template for what?
[20:42] <ejbs_> oh shit, sorry, wrong window
[20:42] <bass> btw just trying to switch .mp4 to VLC - somehow it got associated with audacity - but it is stuck on audacity no matter what I try
[20:46] <bbaqar> EriC^^: So i got past the error by running: systemctl daemon-reload
[20:46] <ioria> bass xdg-open file.mp4     what it uses ?
[20:49] <cobra> hallo bin neu habe ubuntu auf dem laptop ist ubuntu sicher gegen vieren frage
[20:50] <bekks> !de | cobra
[20:50] <cobra> danke
[20:51] <bass> ioria: I just uninstalled Audacity which had taken over .mp4 and wouldn't give it back, and now the association is with VLC again so "xdg-open file.mp4" opens with VLC for now - just hope that continues when I reinstall Audacity :)
[20:52] <ioria> bass glad you solved
[20:53] <ioria> bass anyways, man mimeopen   , interesting reading :-)
[20:55] <MannyLNJ> Happy Saturday to all. I need help. I was running Ubuntu as a file/print server on a laptop with a cracked screen and all was good. Now my screen is totally gone so if I mess up the system I am hosed. I am doing via ssh 'sudo apt-get update' and it's failing with failed to fetch a chrome file.
[20:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then you have to wait until the file can be retrieved.
[20:55] <pilne> that or remove chrome... as it seems a bit useless
[20:56] <MannyLNJ> pilne, i was unsure if I could savely remove it. I'm scared of messing up the system now
[20:57] <pilne> does the laptop have a hdmi or other video out you could utilize?
[20:57] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Of course you can remove a browser safely.
[20:57] <attah> So i just switched over from mint to ubuntu-gnome.. and i hoped i could just carry over my xorg.conf to have my 4K monitor working with MST... but no such luck, has anyone here been able to get that working? (i'm on 16.04 beta, but answers from 15.10 might help too)
[20:58] <MannyLNJ> pilne, Nope no HDMI and no working VGA. There is a broken monitor connector in the vga socket (prior owner did that)
[20:58] <attah> An there is this in my log, which i suspect might be the culprit:  (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinView" is not used
[20:58] <pilne> ouch
[21:00] <MannyLNJ> pilne, I got the laptop for free and just using it as a file server but I never setup VNC or any remote desktop because I kept failing at it. Now I really have to learn CLI
[21:01] <pilne> i'd suggest learning it on another box if that one is running ok for your uses
[21:05] <mintsauce> Hello. I'm trying to do-release upgrade Ubuntu 10.04.4 to 12.10. It aborts after a message along the lines of :'It was not possible to authenticate some packages.' which precedes a long list of packages, including apache2. Any ideas?
[21:07] <soot_> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[21:08] <attah> Anyone with a working 4K/MST setup that could share their xorg.conf?
[21:08] <k1l_> mintsauce: you mean 10.04 to 12.04 right?
[21:09] <mintsauce> k1l_: Yup.
[21:10] <k1l_> mintsauce: i guess the packages named where intsalled from 3rd party repos or .deb or compiled yourself?
[21:10] <mintsauce> k1l_: I've removed any custom ppa's, cleaned source.list etc.
[21:10] <k1l_> mintsauce: but the packages are still the same ppa ones?
[21:11] <mintsauce> k1l_: And having apache2 etc in there doesn't make sense - I doubt I would done anything non-standard with that.
[21:12] <mintsauce> wget, x11-common etc
[21:12] <mintsauce> vim
[21:13] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Think that google dropped 32 bit support, edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list to be " deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main " . Adding the field " [arch=amd64] " . Works for me .. but YMMV.
[21:14] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, thanksi took the other advise and just removed it
[21:14] <Kartagis> how do I export LC_* to a different locale?
[21:14] <Kartagis> locale-gen didn't work
[21:15] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: K; If this is a 32 bit system, there is no other option .
[21:16] <yorick__> hey
[21:16] <k1l_> mintsauce: try this http://askubuntu.com/a/426121/31260
[21:17] <mintsauce> k1l_: Thanks, I'll take a look
[21:19] <yorick__> how can i disable my intergrated gpu? I would like to test something with passthrough the GPU. When I'd boot, I do get a black screen where I'd usually need to get the disk encryption login (when I've disabled intergrated gpu in BIOS).
[21:21] <Kartagis> how do I export LC_* to a different locale?
[21:21] <Kartagis> locale-gen didn't work
[21:22] <mintsauce> k1l_: Ohhh, this looks promising...
[21:26] <mintsauce> Assuming this works, what are your thoughts on jumping straight from 10 -> 12 -> 14 LTS?
[21:27] <bazhang> mintsauce, 16.04 lts is available next month
[21:27] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: Make your backups ,, a big change from 10.04 to releases running unity .
[21:28] <mintsauce> bazhang: I assume 14.04 still has a while until EOL ;)
[21:28] <mintsauce> Bashing-om: Allready done. Backups and full image taken.
[21:28] <k1l_> mintsauce: 14.04 runs 5 years. so 2019 its going EOL
[21:29] <mintsauce> Bashing-om: When did Unity coming in?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  11.04 or so
[21:29] <k1l_> yep
[21:30] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: Release 11.04 ?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  11.10, rather
[21:30] <k1l_> it was standard since 11.04. but it was included since 10.10
[21:30] <mintsauce> So the pain would be similar 10->12 vs 10->12->14
[21:32] <Bashing-om> mintsauce: I would think if ya get to 12 and stable .. should be good to go to 14 with no other problems .
[21:33] <mintsauce> When is 12.04 EOL?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> mintsauce  12+5=17
[21:33] <_ikke_> mintsauce: 5 years support, so 2017
[21:33] <heywood> hi all. on 12.04.5 LTS, i'd like to install the HPN patchset to openssh, but that requires the openssh source to be installed. what's the correct way (and location) to grab the sources so i can apply those patches?
[21:34] <mintsauce> *cough* ... The version number is lined to the year?
[21:34] <mintsauce> * linked
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> heywood  apt-get download openssh-client and -server
[21:35] <heywood> MonkeyDust: thanks. to clarify: i had the HPN patches installed from a (third-party) PPA that's no longer maintained, so do i need to apt-get remove those first, or will apt "just work(™)"?
[21:36] <heywood> i'm a bit paranoid because openss{h,l} is a big attack vector if installed/built/configured incorrectly, so i want to make sure i do this right...
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> heywood  i guess you're safe with the ubuntu patches and upgrades
[21:39] <heywood> MonkeyDust: also, will your suggestion automatically grab the sources? (pretty sure installing the HPN patch set requires those)
[21:39] <LeoDee> hey all, I am wondering if someone here knows how to prevent the wifi from shutting off after 5 mins of idling on a trusty release
[21:39] <heywood> MonkeyDust: or do i need to explicitly pass 'source' to apt-get ?
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> heywood  true, it's apt-get source, not apt-get download
[21:40] <heywood> ok
[21:41] <mate|89554> I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?
[21:41] <mate|89554> I can get my wlan to work, but not my wwan in Plasma Mobile (Nexus 5) (Ubuntu 15.04). I suppose I did something with the flight mode and now I cannot get the wwan to work. I have the "adb shell" connected to the phone. What "nmcli" command should I give?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> !pho,e
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[21:48] <munch_Marcell> Is there a fix for flash player fullscreen going to the wrong monitor?
[21:48] <munch_Marcell> In a multi-monitor setup?
[21:50] <ryclik> There's a tweak i found a couple years ago that had something to do with that.
[21:51] <ryclik> It involved editting the actual plugin with a hex editor.
[21:52] <Guest17502> need help guys got ubuntu mate anything installed via ubuntu software center cant find in menu ?
[21:52] <bekks> Guest17502: Because that is not an application, but a desktop environment.
[21:52] <ryclik> munch_Marcell: there's a couple suggestions here if you're using firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1srqjd/full_screen_flash_videos_open_on_wrong_monitor/
[21:53] <munch_Marcell> ryclik: I'll check it out, thanks ryclik
[21:53] <ryclik> I'd personally try the about:config tweak first. From the last comment
[21:53] <ryclik> No problem
[21:53] <Guest17502> bekks sorry im a noob can you explain what im doing wrong?
[21:54] <lesshaste> a simple question.. how do I take an image and make an A4 landscape page with two copies side by side? This is just so I can print it out, cut it and have two a5 copies of the image
[21:54] <bekks> Guest17502: You need to logout, and choose Ubuntu Mate at the login window.
[21:54] <\9> Guest17502: you installed a desktop environment, that's not something you just open from the menu
[21:54] <\9> if you want to use mate, you will first have to log off, select mate from the dropdown present in the login screen and login again
[21:54] <Guest17502> ok cheers will try that
[22:00] <MannyLNJ> If I have a folder called /media/emanuel/setopbox how can I allow read/write access to it without needing a user account?
[22:00] <manpat>  you guys should watch this funny video me and my friend made togeteher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HSuaLx7nyk
[22:01] <bekks> MannyLNJ: you always need an user account.
[22:02] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I have a PC being used as a set top box and I want it to access video saved on /media/emanuel/settopbox.
[22:02] <bekks> MannyLNJ: And whats the problem in doing so?
[22:03] <mrdeb> does ubuntu 14.04.4 support touch screen tablets out of box
[22:03] <mrdeb> ???
[22:03] <MannyLNJ> bekks, the problem with added the windows "user" is I don't know the name of the user the box automaticly starts with
[22:04] <bazhang> !touch | mrdeb
[22:04] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then set permissions correctly on that share.
[22:04] <mrdeb> yes or no
[22:04] <mrdeb> does default iso have touch support
[22:05] <bekks> mrdeb: Test it out?
[22:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch mrdeb
[22:05] <bazhang> join there mrdeb
[22:06] <mrdeb> why cant i jsut get answer
[22:06] <mrdeb> u see how many lines we have types
[22:06] <mrdeb> ok
[22:06] <mrdeb> oh
[22:06] <bekks> mrdeb: you got answers, but you dont want to hear them obviously.
[22:07] <ethern0t> :)
[22:07] <mrdeb> no
[22:07] <mrdeb> point of channel is to give answers not give link that ppl all know to go to, where there would be no need for chat
[22:07] <daftykins> mrdeb: i'd have loaded up a live session from USB in the time you took to argue
[22:07] <mrdeb> what if someone has problem reading
[22:07] <mrdeb> it is not ok to make fun of htem
[22:08] <mrdeb> daftykins: before dl
[22:08] <daftykins> mrdeb: my advice to you is to drop the attitude and get on with it, this is a volunteer channel - nobody is paid to endure your rant.
[22:08] <mrdeb> u have attitude not me
[22:08] <mrdeb> i will go
[22:09] <sergey__> b nb b bn nb
[22:09] <sergey__> mnbbbk
[22:09] <sergey__> losgari
[22:09] <sergey__> loshari
[22:09] <k1l_> sergey__: english only on here
[22:09] <sergey__> dolboebi
[22:10] <sergey__> pidarasiki
[22:20] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I made a folder that I think I have shared the writes are drwx------ but the set top box won't see the folder or the ubuntu system
[22:21] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Then youneed to set permissions so other users may read/write/execute as well.
[22:22] <MannyLNJ> bekks, more reading to do then. I have to check that Samba is enabled.
[22:24] <heywood> argh. trying to grab the version of openssh source that will allow me to install the HPN patchset, but…
[22:24] <heywood> (1) version needed (6.3) is newer than that in the official repos for 12.04.5 LTS (5.9p1), and
[22:24] <heywood> (2) source downloaded from official openssh repository is signed with a GPG key (0x86FF9C48) that has since been revoked.
[22:24] <heywood> can anyone recommend the safest way to proceed?
[22:24] <Guest59518> newbie, looking for instructions on IRC chatting etc.
[22:25] <heywood> or better yet, an IRC channel where this is more on-topic than this general ubuntu channel?
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest59518  #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <heywood> MonkeyDust: was that for me, or Guest59518?
[22:26] <Guest59518> for me I believe.
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> heywood  for Guest59518
[22:27] <heywood> just making sure. i have the attention span of a gnat on crack; sorry folks.
[22:27] <lnxmen> What's the configuration to achieve the lowest power consumption with NVIDIA Optimus?
[22:27] <Guest59518> Is there a newbie channel available?
[22:28] <lnxmen> Earlier I was using kernel 4.5rc3 and nvidia-355 - it worked somehow (10W consumption).
[22:28] <lnxmen> I tried to update NVIDIA drivers to 361 and consumption overdoubled.
[22:28] <lnxmen> Upset part is that, downgrading to 355 doesn't help.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Guest59518: This channel ... not just for those "in the know" .. ask your question .
[22:29] <lnxmen> So, I removed all non-standard and possibly bugged kernels. Cleaned headers, etc. I just left standard kernel for Ubuntu 15.10.
[22:30] <lnxmen> Then, I installed kernel 4.4.4 and nvidia-361 with prime.
[22:30] <lnxmen> Unfortunately, it's still not working as I want to. Power consumption is about 25W.
[22:31] <Guest59518> Thanks, totally new to Linux (today) and need to go to the next step, whatever that is.
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Guest59518
[22:31] <lnxmen> Would anyone help me to set it up?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> !manual | Guest59518 Welcome to our world
[22:32] <Guest59518> appreciate your help....heading for manual now.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Guest59518: And one other to digest : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty . When you have a failure to comprehend .. ask here . Help is what we do .
[22:34] <Thorax2015> Was updating ubuntu and the wifi dropped
[22:34] <Thorax2015> , It downloaded 70mb out of 75mb, all individual packages
[22:34] <Thorax2015> , But it dropped them all
[22:34] <Thorax2015>  and i have to start from the begining
[22:36] <MannyLNJ> Continued help needed. I have Samba running but the Ubuntu system does not show on Windows
[22:37] <bekks> MannyLNJ: So show us your samba configuration in a pastebin please.
[22:37] <MannyLNJ> bekks, Ok give me a min
[22:37] <sEiNZu> Good evening. I installed 15.10 on a usb stick to use it as OS for a thin client. As monitor im using my TV but after the login screen appears the tv doesnt get any signal anymore
[22:38] <bekks> sEiNZu: Maybe the configured resolution is too high for the TV?
[22:39] <Bashing-om> sEiNZu: ^^ HDMI and the TV net set to recieve the digital dignal ?
[22:39] <sEiNZu> Hmm if id say its too small. While the thinclient is booting its set to 1080p but for the login screen it changes to 360p just before it stops receiving a signal
[22:40] <bekks> sEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.
[22:41] <MannyLNJ> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15300783/
[22:41] <sEiNZu> I can get into a terminal session with ctrl+alt+f1 (altho that takes about 10mins) and the screen receives a signal again. Ill never get to login bekks. Does the resolution after thr login matter then?
[22:42] <bekks> sEiNZu: I just told you something.
[22:42] <Guest59518> How do I sign out of this.  Getting the manuals.
[22:42] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Thats a file name. And?
[22:42] <sEiNZu> The resolution after the login screen*
[22:42] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Show us the samba configuration.
[22:43] <bekks> sEiNZu:  < bekks> sEiNZu: the resolution AFTER the login is in question.
[22:43] <sEiNZu> The configuration for thaf would be dealt with my xserver right?
[22:44] <MannyLNJ> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15300821
[22:50] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Can you mount that share from your other box?
[22:50] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know of opensource slot machine software ?
[22:50] <bekks> MannyLNJ: It doesnt need to be visible for doing so.
[22:51] <MannyLNJ> bekk No I try \\<IP_ADDRESS>\ from my windows system and it doesn't see it
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Thats not mounting it.
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: You are tryong to browse it.
[22:52] <MannyLNJ> bekks, how do i mount it?
[22:52] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Assign a drive letter to your share, no need for browsing it before.
[22:54] <MannyLNJ> bekks, how can i do that if i cant see the share on the network?
[22:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: You dont need to browse it.
[22:55] <bekks> MannyLNJ: Just map a new drive letter to your share.
[22:57] <MannyLNJ> bekks, I only know how to do that via browsing, I will have to research. Thanks for the help though
[23:01] <The_Fly> hi, running n56vm laptop with nvidia gt630m, optimus technology
[23:01] <The_Fly> i get a black scnreen when i install the nvidia drivers
[23:02] <The_Fly> anyone here who has dealt with these hybrid graphics laptops before have any advice?
[23:02] <The_Fly> blank screen or worse, get logged out as soon as log in
[23:02] <bekks> !optimus | The_Fly
[23:02] <bekks> Hmm.
[23:02] <The_Fly> http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[23:02] <The_Fly> nvidia-prime
[23:02] <bekks> The_Fly: Dont use bumblebee, better use nvidia-prime
[23:02] <The_Fly> okay
[23:03] <The_Fly> so i just need to switch the adapter with shift+alt+f1
[23:03] <The_Fly> to term
[23:03] <The_Fly> and then nvidia-prime nvidia?
[23:03] <The_Fly> i thought it was a kernel issue so downgraded to <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[23:03] <bekks> The_Fly: nvidia-prime, not nvidia
[23:03] <squinty> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[23:03] <The_Fly> from 4.2.0
[23:04] <The_Fly> bekks: sure, i thought you have to specify whether you want to run with intel or nvidia gpu
[23:04] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Try: ' sudo nvidia-xconfig ' to generate a new config file .
[23:04] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: i did try this, without luck :(
[23:04] <The_Fly> squinty: also tried the steps listed here
[23:04] <The_Fly> tried the proprietary driver (From nvidia website) also
[23:04] <The_Fly> but --uninstall'd that because also no luck
[23:05] <daftykins> nvidia-prime for switchability between intel + nvidia, bumblebee for legacy true hybrid action
[23:05] <The_Fly> i think it led me to the insta-logout problem
[23:05] <The_Fly> daftykins: ah i may try bumblebee then
[23:05] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Then we look at the log file, see if the driver built ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[23:05] <The_Fly> do i have to explicitly state which gpu each application should use?
[23:06] <daftykins> it depends on your hardware really, no two optimus implementations are alike (between laptop models) it seems
[23:06] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15301056/
[23:06] <The_Fly> might be a lot of crap in there because ive been trying over and over
[23:06] <The_Fly> downgrade kernel,try again, etc.
[23:06] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Look'n .
[23:07] <The_Fly> cheers m8 :)
[23:07] <The_Fly> hugely appreciated
[23:08] <daftykins> The_Fly: don't ever try and downgrade kernel on an Ubuntu.
[23:08] <The_Fly> i upgraded to 4.2.0
[23:08] <The_Fly> and read this was not a good idea with the nvidea drivers
[23:08] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Nope, did not build "  4.191] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) " .
[23:09] <The_Fly> ah, what might be the cause of that?
[23:09] <The_Fly> this is after sudo apt-get install nvidia-current (or one of the explicit versions)
[23:09] <k1l_> header files installed?
[23:09] <The_Fly> ah
[23:09] <The_Fly> heh
[23:09] <k1l_> without the proper header files you cant build any module
[23:10] <daftykins> nvidia-current is an old package name, don't use that
[23:10] <The_Fly> k1l_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[23:10] <ImACarrot> I have ubuntu server installed and I want to be able to use cmus. I have cmus installed but can't here anything. How do I install audio drivers in ubuntu server?
[23:10] <The_Fly> okay thanks daftykins
[23:10] <k1l_> The_Fly: what kernel are you on now? where is the kernel from?
[23:10] <ImACarrot> ...assuming it's an audio driver issue. :|
[23:11] <The_Fly> k1l_: 3.19.0-51-generic and offical repo
[23:11] <The_Fly> haven't added any ppa
[23:11] <k1l_> The_Fly: its its the regular ubuntu kernel make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[23:12] <k1l_> but 3.19 will mean you are on 15.04, which is EOL now.
[23:12] <The_Fly> im on 14.04
[23:12] <k1l_> The_Fly: ah ok. so we need the lts backports linux generic package
[23:13] <The_Fly> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[23:13] <daftykins> i'd recommend a "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " on that one before continuing
[23:13] <k1l_> The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?
[23:13] <The_Fly> have done
[23:13] <daftykins> possibly bumblebee* too if it hasn't been tried
[23:13] <minasota> This might have been addressed many times already but I was curious why a package search for openssl on 14.04.4 shows 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 when 1.0.2g-1 is available from debian?
[23:13] <The_Fly> k1l_: i was using newer kernel because i have a funny issue with the FN+brightness down key, where acpi events seem to drain slowly
[23:13] <lokien> hello guys. how can I install sdl-2.0.3 on ubuntu 15.10? ppa is broken.
[23:13] <The_Fly> all other function keys are fine, but when i hit this key, suddenly i cant even close lid for sleep
[23:14] <The_Fly> and the event queue drains at one every 30sec
[23:14] <k1l_> minasota: ubuntu doesnt update the version number but backport the security patches
[23:14] <The_Fly> i thought, again, was a kernel issue
 The_Fly: which kernel do you want? 3.13, 3.19 or 4.2?
[23:14] <The_Fly> i dont mind what kernel im on
[23:14] <The_Fly> as long as it's the most stable
[23:14] <The_Fly> etc.
[23:14] <minasota> k1l_: ok, but rkhunter keeps bitching about my openssl being out of date... I can whitelist I guess
[23:14] <k1l_> The_Fly: linux-generic-lts-wily    will bring you the 4.2 kernel and headers
[23:15] <k1l_> minasota: rkhunter is not what you think it is
[23:15] <daftykins> ^ if i were you i'd just wait for 16.04 - lovely lovely LTS.
[23:15] <compdoc> minasota, there are some recent updates to openssl
[23:15] <The_Fly> yeah i was wanting to jump to 16.04
[23:15] <The_Fly> not ready yet right?
[23:15] <minasota> k1l_: what makes you think you know what I think it is?? lol,
[23:16] <minasota> compdoc: yeah, that's what I was getting at. Yesterday I believe was the latest?
[23:16] <compdoc> sounds right
[23:16] <k1l_> minasota: rkhunter runs a checklist which is full of false positives. you still need to go through that list and do the recherché  if that really is a positive
[23:16] <compdoc> heh, recherché
[23:16] <k1l_> minasota: because its a typical: i want an antivirus so i run rkhunter.
[23:16] <The_Fly> k1l_: so install linux-generic-lts-wily package then drivers from the settings "software & updates" > "additional drivers" should be fine?
[23:17] <The_Fly> since it should actually build the module this time
[23:17] <minasota> k1l_: installed and configured on a fresh server install... no false positives except passwd
[23:17] <The_Fly> going off what Bashing-om said
[23:17] <k1l_> The_Fly: yes
[23:17] <The_Fly> thanks :)
[23:17] <The_Fly> i'll give that a try
[23:17] <heywood> gack. i've somehow managed to mess up my ssh config, so now sshd is running but not listening on any ports. /etc/ssh/sshd_config contains the (uncommented) line "port 22".
[23:17] <daftykins> The_Fly: come back again when it's black screen o'clock
[23:17] <minasota> k1l_: which was expected because I changed the root passwd
[23:17] <The_Fly> daftykins: i will report back
[23:17] <daftykins> roger that
[23:17] <The_Fly> any thoughts on the acpi weirdness?
[23:18] <The_Fly> output of acpi_listen shows all events choke when i touch this one FN+button
[23:18] <daftykins> i didn't catch the make and model of laptop
[23:18] <The_Fly> asus n56vm
[23:18] <minasota> compdoc: Long story short, the version available at the moment is good to go then?
[23:19] <daftykins> The_Fly: ah, they're notorious for bad BIOSs on Linux of late, check you're on the latest version and if so, you could try an acpi_osi kernel boot param to try and trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config for any quirks
[23:19] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Mind you I do not know ,, but with the newer kernel perhaos the boot parameter " acpi_osi=Linux " will not be needed ??
[23:19] <heywood> "sudo restart ssh" gives "restart: Unknown instance:". the "stop" version gives the analogous error. the "start" version gives "ssh start/prestart, process 12345", but ssh -v localhost fails.
[23:19] <The_Fly> daftykins: i tried the empty acpi_osi= without luck
[23:20] <The_Fly> newer kernel didn't remedy the issue
[23:20] <daftykins> The_Fly: depends if you set it right and whether the entry you picked was present in the firmware though?
[23:20] <The_Fly> daftykins: set in /etc/default/grub
[23:20] <The_Fly> with update-grub issued after
[23:20] <daftykins> yes but the exact parameter entry
[23:21] <The_Fly> tried empty and "Linux"
[23:21] <The_Fly> there is one bios version above this on asus site, but changelog mentions nothing of acpi
[23:21] <daftykins> yeah that's wrong
[23:21] <The_Fly> ah, what should it be?
[23:21] <daftykins> the Windows versions e.g. "Windows2016" in the firmware - and no, the BIOS entries won't mention fixing anything for Linux
[23:22] <The_Fly> oh, the acpi_osi must refer to a windows version? :S
[23:22] <The_Fly> if i upgrade bios i have to do so from windows
[23:22] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: To that ^^ do "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" and identify the latest Windows version listed.
[23:22] <daftykins> yep see above "trick it into loading the Windows ACPI config"
[23:22] <The_Fly> as asus only provide flash util for windows
[23:23] <The_Fly> and i dont feel like risking bricking this mobo
[23:23] <daftykins> Bashing-om: good work! that's the one :)
[23:23] <The_Fly> cheers again guys
[23:23] <daftykins> err i own an asus and it updates from flash drive
[23:23] <daftykins> mines 5 years old though
[23:23] <The_Fly> oh, ah yeah have to boot and update
[23:23] <The_Fly> i think
[23:23] <The_Fly> i haven't done it in a while
[23:23] <daftykins> usually a util inside the BIOS
[23:24] <The_Fly> not on this one
[23:24] <The_Fly> horrible bios ui
[23:25] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: Windows 2012
[23:25] <The_Fly> so i want acpi_osi=Windows2012 ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: k: old old bios version, huh ?
[23:25] <daftykins> yep
[23:25] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: one version behind
[23:26] <The_Fly> i had it from dmidecode (maybe i recall command incorrectly)
[23:26] <The_Fly> nope, Version: N56VM.206
[23:27] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Reason I say old .. is I see a lot of "2015" with that code .
[23:27] <The_Fly> there's a v214, next release above v206
[23:27] <The_Fly> will that matter?
[23:28] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Uh, now that I can not comment on as I do not know .
[23:28] <The_Fly> the flash utility is here https://www.asus.com/support/Download/3/390/0/1/OZUVpdzC8g1tIjWG/36/
[23:29] <The_Fly> ah, so worth trying acpi_osi=Windows2012?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Sure ! can not hurt as on 1 time boot parameter in grub, see what results .
[23:30] <The_Fly> next down is "Windows 2009"
[23:30] <The_Fly> okay
[23:30] <The_Fly> thanks
[23:30] <daftykins> i see no harm in a BIOS update
[23:30] <The_Fly> i will give that a shot also, but the util is win8
[23:31] <The_Fly> so i have to physically swap old hdd in
[23:31] <The_Fly> made ssd upgrade and switch to ubuntu, so i can develop nix-only project im working on
[23:31] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: when there's a space in a parameter the entire parameter needs surrounding: "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" is what needs to be on the kernel command line (including those " marks I just typed)
[23:31] <The_Fly> just want to get gpu and fn-keys sorted and im good to go
[23:31] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: but im adding to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[23:32] <The_Fly> so should i escape the inner "
[23:32] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: 2012**
[23:32] <The_Fly> oh i thought just remove the space in this case
[23:32] <The_Fly> so far i have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Windows2012"
[23:32] <The_Fly> i guess that's wrong :_(
[23:33] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: I would try from grub boot before making the edit to the config file .
[23:33] <The_Fly> but when i do finally want to put in here, would i escape the " ?
[23:33] <The_Fly> i couldn't get grub boot menu to show
[23:33] <The_Fly> hold shift right?
[23:33] <The_Fly> *correct
[23:34] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: if you edit THAT file, you need to *escape* those quotes too with \" ... \"
[23:34] <Bashing-om> As in: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" \"acpi_osi=Windows 2009\""
[23:35] <The_Fly> cool yes, that's what id like to do
[23:35] <The_Fly> i couldn't get into grub menu, annoyingly
[23:35] <The_Fly> maybe i was too slow to hold shift
[23:35] <The_Fly> this thing boots too fast
[23:35] <The_Fly> i tried -1 for the timeout param
[23:35] <The_Fly> no luck
[23:36] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: UEFI ? it is the escape key that grub recognizes .
[23:36] <The_Fly> yes uefi
[23:36] <The_Fly> ah
[23:36] <The_Fly> i was mislead
[23:37] <The_Fly> no issue with putting acpi_osi into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?
[23:37] <The_Fly> as opposed to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[23:37] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Got to be real quick .. a very small window of opportunity .
[23:38] <JamesT1995> Question...is there a way to install Java Desktop Environment on Ubuntu?
[23:38] <xangua> JamesT1995: java desktop what....?
[23:38] <JamesT1995> xangua: gui from Solaris 10
[23:38] <k1l_> JamesT1995: which version?
[23:39] <bekks> JamesT1995: No.
[23:39] <JamesT1995> k1l: the latest one (3)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Either place will work .
[23:39] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: ah, seems like a bit of a usability issue
[23:39] <bekks> JamesT1995: That Java based desktop environment was developed from Sun, and has not been put under an opensource license. It is not available for other operating systems.
[23:39] <The_Fly> (i mean the timing)
[23:40] <The_Fly> cool, will try that and see if my hotkey and gfx issues are solved. your help/time is much appreciated
[23:40] <JamesT1995> bekks: Wikipedia says it once was for Linux
[23:40] <bekks> JamesT1995: And that development was abandoned decades ago.
[23:41] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: I do not look forward to learning UEFI , My ole box I hope is good for a few more years yet .
[23:41] <JamesT1995> bekks: damn, I love how simple it is
[23:41] <R13ose> How long should I wait for Ubuntu to boot after the installation?
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:41] <bekks> JamesT1995: It is horribly complex, since it is based on Java :)
[23:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! https://bitly.com/1QTt6hL
[23:42] <Bashing-om> R13ose: I would think over 3 minutes to boot up is excessive .
[23:42] <bekks> JamesT1995: If you like a quite simple desktop environment, just use XFCE, LXDE or Mate.
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: no luck on the acpi front, unfortunately
[23:43] <JamesT1995> bekks: yeah, Java...I know...im looking for something simple (XP style...)
[23:43] <JamesT1995> bekks: im on xfce
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: press that one hotkey and now the rest of hotkeys queue up for 30 sec until the queue is empty :(
[23:43] <k1l_> JamesT1995: lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:43] <bekks> JamesT1995: Then just use a theme of your choice.
[23:43] <k1l_> JamesT1995: or look at ubuntu mate
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: tbh i can just change brightness with the slider in settings menu, for now
[23:43] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Well ,, for these lap tops, was worth a shot .
[23:43] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: yeah, it' a real strange one, every other key is fine, just this one
[23:43] <JamesT1995> k1l_: not going back to MATE
[23:44] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: very odd, okay now to test graphics...
[23:45] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: bios update is worth a shot, but im not hopeful
[23:45] <The_Fly> how is this something microsoft manage to get right, one of the few things they do
[23:46] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Graphics: did yopu make sire OEM is gone gone ? - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - .
[23:46] <The_Fly> i suppose they will have closer relations with hardware vendors
[23:46] <The_Fly> Bashing-om: previously i ran the intaller with --uninstall
[23:47] <Bashing-om> The_Fly: Just making sure .. many do not know to .
[23:47] <The_Fly> confirmed OEM is gone
[23:47] <The_Fly> ok, reboot, praying for no black screen (or kicked out after login)
[23:48] <The_Fly> damn, black screen
[23:48] <The_Fly> im talking to you from shift+alt+f1 > ssh
[23:48] <The_Fly> :_(
[23:49] <daftykins> did you say this is 14.04.4?
[23:50] <The_Fly> daftykins: correct
[23:50] <The_Fly> now <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[23:50] <daftykins> likely all your tries have messed it up, start again from scratch
[23:50] <The_Fly> bah
[23:50] <daftykins> i really think the BIOS should be thrown on too
[23:50] <The_Fly> fresh os install?
[23:50] <daftykins> yip
[23:51] <The_Fly> booo
[23:51] <daftykins> i mean i'm sure someone might want to enjoy picking through the pieces, but it isn't me :)
[23:51] <The_Fly> okay, i'll back up my homedir and give it a shot
[23:51] <The_Fly> you're right
[23:51] <The_Fly> this is a waste of time
[23:51] <The_Fly> thanks anyway :)
[23:51] <daftykins> np
[23:52] <The_Fly> fresh install, leave kernel alone
[23:52] <The_Fly> straight to driver install
[23:52] <The_Fly> latest (highest version number) in the additional drivers tab?
[23:52] <The_Fly> just full on noob mode
[23:52] <The_Fly> and cross fingers
[23:52] <daftykins> would you mind reducing the enter key spam?
[23:52] <The_Fly> apologies, it's a bad habbit of mine
[23:53] <daftykins> yeah focus on the OS install and don't restore your /home to start with, keep it totally vanilla - fully updated but then "sudo apt install nvidia-xxx nvidia-prime" where xxx is whatever version we're up to now, also i think 352 was buggy
[23:54] <daftykins> ubuntu has an updated driver PPA for graphics, it might be of benefit - i'm not sure what's in 14.04.4 repos now
[23:57] <MiniFridge> Hello, is Ubuntu 14.04 (not 14.04.4) an LTS version?
[23:57] <MiniFridge> I am getting a server and I can decide between 15.04 and 14.04
[23:57] <MiniFridge> oh and 15.10
[23:57] <bekks> MiniFridge: 14.04 is a LTS version, and 15.04 isnt supported anymore.
[23:58] <MiniFridge> Okay, so what is with the 14.04.4?
[23:58] <daftykins> it's the fourth maintenance release, if you will - with a 4.2.0 kernel as its' base, typically
[23:59] <Senor> :(
[23:59] <Senor> hello everyone
[23:59] <Senor> I need a helping hand. Hopefully, i came to the right place.