[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However if you want to play with it, you can install, because the kde3 and the kde4 version very well separeted in Gutsy.
[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: No menubar currently.
[09:55] <zeke> volume controls...the system volume can either be set to 0% or 11% and it doesn't affect the volume of anything so far as I can tell
[09:55] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However next beta just comming soon.
[09:55] <zeke> did that in Feisty too though
[09:56] <sahin_h> bjwebb: I think the kubuntu developers will provide you packages again for KDE4
[09:56] <zeke> any thoughts?
[09:56] <nlskj> how do u see ntfs partitions on kubuntu_
[09:56] <nlskj> ?
[09:57] <nlskj> can eny1 help?
[09:57] <zeke> as a vague hazy grey shape...
[09:57] <nlskj> thx a lot
[09:57] <nlskj> :))
[09:57] <zeke> np
[09:57] <zeke> there's a package you have to install...or some such thing
[09:57] <nlskj> i did
[09:58] <nlskj> dose'n work
[09:58] <zeke> ntfs-3g?
[09:58] <nlskj> ntfs configuration tool
[09:58] <nlskj> bullshit
[09:59] <bjwebb> sorry been lookin at summat else
[09:59] <zeke> and libntfs-*
[09:59] <bjwebb> sahin_h: when's the next beta btw
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> Has anyone else noticed a problem in KDE's screen saver
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> sometimes it works, others, it does no.
[09:59] <Shadow_mil> not*
[09:59] <sahin_h> bjwebb: october 8.
[09:59] <zeke> I don't use a screen saver...solly cholly
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: However sometimes the schedule is changing.
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: Here's a nice web page for you about the release dates:
[10:00] <gabor_> what is wmaster0 ???
[10:00] <sahin_h> bjwebb: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[10:00] <bjwebb> kkthnx
[10:02] <zeke> holy carbuncles batman...there's an emu10k1/2 driver loader for my soundcard
[10:02] <zeke> :-D
[10:03] <romuloo> ah, another question...
[10:03] <romuloo> how i make firefox the default browser on KDE?
[10:03] <zeke> ummm
[10:03] <zeke> lemme see
[10:04] <zeke> hmmm...mine's a bit touchy
[10:04] <fdoving> romuloo: kmenu -> system settings -> default applications -> web browser -> write firefox in the box after selecting "in the following browser:"
[10:05] <zeke> try edit>preferences>and look for something about checking to see if it default when you start it up
[10:05] <zeke> that too
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving: i have done (???, my english is terrible :S) this at home and didn't works fine, but here in university worked
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving: i will try again at home
[10:07] <romuloo> fdoving, zeke: thank you
[10:08] <zeke> no prob
[10:08] <fdoving> romuloo: you're welcome, good luck with your home-machine :)
[10:08] <romuloo> :)
[10:14] <romuloo> the kubuntu version upgrade is beta :S
[10:14] <NickPresta> romuloo, indeed. For another 11 days, I believe
[10:15] <romuloo> NickPresta: ah, great
[10:16] <uga> I wonder if I'll get the bootup splash screen working again by then, or I'll have to hack the kernel
[10:18] <uga> !mirrors
[10:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:18] <uga> uhm, I was looking for the mirror selector app
[10:18] <uga> there was one, right?
[10:18] <zeke> I was talking to you yesterday wasn't I uga?
[10:19] <uga> yes, not sure what about, but yes
[10:19] <jjesse> ok i have a question about 64 bit kubuntu gutsy beta
[10:19] <jjesse> anyone using it?
[10:19] <uga> jjesse: yes
[10:19] <zeke> running 64bit os from 32bit os
[10:19] <uga> zeke: ah yes, I remember. In theory it works at least for intels
[10:19] <uga> a guy said he had done it with vmware
[10:20] <zeke> it was a success, though I had to upgrade my ram quite a bit
[10:20] <jjesse> ok on my new dell d830 from work, i just get a black screen with the live cd
[10:20] <uga> congrats
[10:20] <zeke> thanks
[10:20] <uga> jjesse: yeah. Disable splash on the live CD
[10:20] <uga> possibly that will do
[10:20] <jjesse> ok what is that command?
[10:20] <uga> at least you'll get a terminal
[10:20] <uga> jjesse: F6 on the bootup menu
[10:20] <uga> and edit the line
[10:20] <uga> remove splash, silent...
[10:20] <NickPresta> jjesse, I believe the boot option is 'nosplash'
[10:20] <jjesse> uga then i can install?
[10:21] <NickPresta> jjesse, or listen to uga ;)
[10:21] <ScorpKing> jjesse: or press <CTRL>+<ALT>+<+> or <CTRL>+<ALT>+<-> to change the resolution.
[10:21] <jjesse> NickPresta ok trying that hold on
[10:21] <uga> jjesse: yes. As far as X runs fine on your graphics card, yes
[10:21] <zeke> anyone know how i can change the global shortcut for the sound system?
[10:21] <zeke> not just alsa
[10:22] <uga> ScorpKing: that works after the bootup starts?
[10:22] <zeke> ?
[10:22] <ScorpKing> in X yes
[10:22] <uga> ahk
[10:22] <uga> ScorpKing: the bad thing is he'll be left without a terminal even
[10:22] <zeke> mainly volume control
[10:22] <ScorpKing> uga: why?
[10:23] <uga> ScorpKing: just like here. Unless I disable the splash, I get no terminal at all. Not even the vga=791 mode that worked on feisty works in gutsy
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> nixternal: heh... did you see Distrogue's review of kubuntu?
[10:23] <uga> all black
[10:23] <ScorpKing> ah ok.
[10:23] <zeke> ???
[10:23] <uga> zeke: all kde shortcuts are configureable in kcontrol
[10:24] <uga> zeke: kcontrol->regional and accessibility->keyboard shortcuts
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> zeke: or.. system settings -> keyboard and mouse-> keyboard shortcuts
[10:24] <uga> zeke: uhm... I don't see volume control ones there, though =(
[10:25] <ScorpKing> uga: when i first started using linux it booted to a black screen everytime i changed the resolution. i reinstalled everytime that happened. that wasn't very funny. lol
[10:25] <ikichi> hi
[10:25] <zeke> I'll try kcontrol cause the latter isn't working
[10:25] <uga> zeke: ah, I see.. run kmix, settings->configure global shortcuts
[10:25] <jjesse> uga: thanks i now get a graphical scrreen
[10:25] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, I did that too. I remember reinstalling Debian because Aptitude failed to fetch an archive =(
[10:25] <uga> jjesse: congrats. And np
[10:25] <jjesse> wow it looks really nice on this one
[10:25] <zeke> I tried that...apparently the system sound is not the same as the master channel in alsa
[10:26] <zeke> at least not on my comp
[10:26] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: that's how we learn i guess. hehe.
[10:26] <uga> zeke: uhm, then I cant' tell
[10:26] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, heh, yep.
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> zeke: right click on kmix and select the master channel
[10:26] <uga> zeke: if you know a cmd line that could do that, you could make a shortcut to run a small script
[10:26] <jjesse> interseting everything looks good excpet didn't detect audio
[10:27] <uga> jjesse: lspci |grep -i sound or grep -i audio
[10:27] <boubbin> ehm, how to mount fat32 from commandline :/ ?
[10:27] <uga> and see if there's any module that works with that soundcard
[10:28] <uga> boubbin: mount /dev/sdfoo /mnt/myfatdir
[10:28] <jjesse> audio device intel coproration 82801H (ICH8 Family)
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> boubbin: "sudo mount <device> /mnt"
[10:28] <uga> boubbin: you can specify -t vfat, but it shouldn't be necessary
[10:28] <ScorpKing> i have a local apt-move repo. can i use it in gusty later and just download the updates?
[10:28] <boubbin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:28] <uga> jjesse: I believe I had ICH5 on my prev box
[10:28] <zeke> I got no clue...before I ruined my last installation beyond all repair it was working ok with some usb speakers
[10:28] <boubbin> boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:28] <boubbin> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[10:28] <jjesse> any idea if it wioll work once i install?
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> uga: what... your dir needs to go on a diet?
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> boubbin:  put a "-t fat" in there
[10:29] <uga> nosrednaekim: =)
[10:29] <uga> jjesse: searching... a second
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> umm "-t vfat"
[10:29] <ScorpKing> lovre: you here?
[10:29] <uga> jjesse: there's a bug report on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122560
[10:29] <boubbin> nosrednaekim :
[10:29] <boubbin> boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:29] <boubbin> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[10:30] <uga> jjesse: there seems to be at least a partial solution there. Maybe even new kernels fix it
[10:31] <zeke> it's the <Fn>+<up/down arrows> that changes the system sound...I don't know what they are mapped to
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> boubbin: do a "-t auto"
[10:31] <jjesse> uga: thanks checking bug report
[10:31] <zeke> they aren't mapped to anything in kmix
[10:31] <uga> jjesse: google rocks ;)
[10:31] <zeke> and system sound goes from 0% to 11% with no audible change in anything
[10:32] <uga> zeke: neither here. Oh, I get same thing (11% and doesnt' go up). But that's not a normal shortcut
[10:32] <zeke> that's as far as it will fo
[10:32] <uga> zeke: you're using kmilo multimedia keys support I believe
[10:32] <zeke> I didn't think so
[10:32] <uga> same as me
[10:32] <uga> the gray colored OSD
[10:32] <zeke> yeah...
[10:33] <uga> that's the kmilo service. Somebody else asked. I couldnt' figure out how to configure shortcuts
[10:33] <uga> I don't think it's much configureable...
[10:33] <boubbin> nosrednaekim boubbin@city-of-the-future:/media$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdd1 /doze
[10:33] <boubbin> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> zeke: go into global shortcuts in kmix and define one of the sortcuts. click advnace, check multikeymode and then press the hotkey
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> zeke: I had to reset my hotkeys.
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> in that method
[10:34] <uga> nosrednaekim: and they still work with osd? ie, kmilo
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> humm
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> uga: nah... but I prefer it to work period ;)
[10:34] <uga> lol, true
[10:34] <zeke> I got that part, but when I'm working and have to mute it really fast its a pain in the arse to have to open the lid and try to remember what keys I have to push
[10:34] <uga> I was just asking. I love the OSD
[10:35] <uga> nosrednaekim: I believe it can be fixed using xmodmap though
[10:35] <uga> I think I've done that creating my own mapping of keys. Managed to do most stuff iirc
[10:35] <uga> with another kb
[10:35] <uga> (long ago though)
[10:36] <jjesse> why can't qtparted resize ntfs partitions :(
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> zeke: what do you want to mute? amarok has its own mute...
[10:37] <uga> nosrednaekim: yeah, changing kb layout right now makes other keys to work. So I just need to create a new layout
[10:37] <uga> jjesse: uhmpf. I didn't remember such a limitation :/
[10:37] <jjesse> can't resize the partitions on my drive to dual boot windows
[10:38] <zeke> yeah, but my usb speakers have volume control on the side and it is for some reason mapped to the kmilo keys
[10:38] <xenol> plz how can i enable kmix (system volume) in tray?
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> zeke: ah... ok
[10:39] <lovre> ScorpKing: i am now, but im off in a min.. ?
[10:39] <zeke> I work in trains and I sometimes have to turn the music off really fast, yet if I leave my laptop open then I can't see other things that I need to see...
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: is the partition currently mounted?
[10:39] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: how do I tell?  just booted into the live cd
[10:40] <zeke> would the kmilo-legacy package only be for older legacy-style keyboards?
[10:40] <ScorpKing> lovre: you asked me the other day to help you install a theme. i still have all the links.
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: oh... NM. ;)
[10:40] <zeke> It worked the way I wanted it too once or twice before I had to reinstall
[10:40] <lovre> ScorpKing: yes, i did. Im off now, could you paste the links in pm? Or ill talk to you tomorrow?
[10:40] <zeke> I never did figure out what I did to make it work like that
[10:40] <lovre> ScorpKing: Btw, Thank for you time m8, i appriciate it very much.
[10:41] <zeke> same thing with pressing the power button and getting the shutdown options
[10:41] <zeke> doesn't do that anymore either and i can't find a darn thing about it
[10:44] <ScorpKing> lovre: np. got the links?
[10:45] <lovre> ScorpKing: ye :D
[10:45] <uga> zeke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118723
[10:45] <lovre> bye all
[10:45] <uga> zeke: 11% thing reported there
[10:45] <zeke> hmmm
[10:45] <hansmbakker__> hi
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> hey hansmbakker__
[10:46] <zeke> bugger...I wish walmart still sold the creative speakers that I used to have...but then they never have what you need when you need it
[10:46] <zeke> same with the usb floppy drive they stopped selling as soon as I needed one
[10:47] <zeke> and the sound blaster live that they stopped selling as soon as I needed one
[10:47] <zeke> and any number of other things
[10:48] <zeke> and then everything is for iPod now too
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> and the chocolate bars which were on sale for 1/4 price ;)
[10:48] <zeke> it's the Podscourge of the iGeneration
[10:48] <mustang^> how would I look at my dhcp network info?  I.E. lease obtained, expiration, etc
[10:49] <zeke> make me want to shout obscenities
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> does anybody know why adept manager removes more packages than i selected?
[10:49] <zeke> because some of them were probably dependencies
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> for example, i wanted to remove kde4base*, and not only those packages were removed
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> but also kdm, digikam, etcetc
[10:49] <hansmbakker__> very strange
[10:50] <zeke> they probably relied on kde4base to function
[10:50] <Lynoure> hansmbakker__: anything that depended on it would go.
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> mustang^: maybe here: /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[10:50] <hansmbakker__> but how can it depend on it as it did not depend on it before i installed kde4base8
[10:50] <hansmbakker__> i meant kde4base*
[10:51] <zeke> like how I had to reinstall Kubuntu because I deleted cupsys*
[10:51] <zeke> and it took way more out than just the cups part
[10:51] <zeke> and then I couldn't boot
[10:51] <hansmbakker__> is this a bug, or is this expected behaviour?
[10:51] <nosrednaekim> zeke: yeah... you have to be careful about that ;)
[10:52] <zeke> tell me about it
[10:52] <zeke> the only real stability problems I've had with *Ubuntu has been with the stability of my decisions
[10:52] <lordhelmet> hey all, i downloaded a theme from kde-look.org and have no clue how to get this installed. it's just three files. the color scheme was easy as i just imported it, but the other two have no information on how to install
[10:52] <mustang^> Thanks for the help...that's got it
[10:53] <zeke> ignorace and inexperience
[10:53] <zeke> and now I must go smoke
[10:54] <hansmbakker__> zeke: shall i post a bug report about it?
[10:54] <zeke> sure
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> !themes | lordhelmet
[10:55] <ubotu> lordhelmet: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:55] <zeke> and about your question...you may not have had kde4base installed but kde4base* is anything with kde4base and then something else in the file name
[10:55] <hansmbakker__> yes i know
[10:55] <zeke> ok
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> it was just a short way of saying kde4base-dev
[10:56] <zeke> ah
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> and kde4base-data
[10:56] <hansmbakker__> etc
[10:56] <zeke> exactly
[10:56] <ScorpKing> what is the window called that comes up with the shutdown, suspend, logout, hibernate and restart options/icons on it?
[10:56] <zeke> shutdown options
[10:56] <zeke> or some such
[10:56] <lordhelmet> !changethemes
[10:56] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[10:56] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:56] <zeke> it used to come up when I pressed the power button
[10:56] <zeke> but not anymore
[10:57] <ScorpKing> lordhelmet: that for me?
[10:58] <nosrednaekim> for him.
[10:58] <ScorpKing> ok
[10:59] <ScorpKing> anyway, i want to know what the name of the shudown optios thingie is. eg, /usr/bin/goawayscreen
[10:59] <ScorpKing> options*
[11:01] <justme> does someone has a hp dv9033cl ?
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: "sudo shutdown -r now " ;)
[11:02] <ScorpKing> :P and how can i change the background/layout of that? lol
[11:02] <hansmbakker__> i must go now
[11:02] <hansmbakker__> bye!
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> justme: justyou ;)
[11:02] <ScorpKing> bye
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> zeke: i also posted your confirmation about that adept bug
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> with those cupsys packages
[11:03] <zeke> pardon?
[11:03] <hansmbakker__> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsaplayer/+bug/83593
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> justme: check out www.linux-laptop.net
[11:04] <justme> nosrednaekim: :/ i need the lspci output for this
[11:04] <Fleck> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php << i'm here, reading, but, i don't have file: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde :(
[11:04] <zeke> oh
[11:04] <zeke> thanks
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> justme: for what?
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: install "kdeworkspace"
[11:04] <Pollywog> I am having difficulty getting my rt2500 working in Feisty
[11:04] <hansmbakker__> Fleck: you should install kdebase-workspace* instead of kde4base*
[11:05] <Fleck> i did
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> oh
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> then i don't know
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> sorry
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> i just installed that, and it worked
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: sure you are using beta2 packages?
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> kde4base did not work
[11:05] <hansmbakker__> bye
[11:06] <justme> nosrednaekim: i'm installing mac, and i need to knwo what drivers to install
[11:06] <Fleck> nosrednaekim i don't have a clue, i added fasty backport in sources.list
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: oh ok.. thats beta2 then
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> justme: MAC OSX?
[11:06] <Pollywog> the network configurator just crashes
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: use iwconfig, iwlist and dhclient
[11:06] <Pollywog> knetworkmanager
[11:06] <adi_> hey
[11:07] <adi_> does any body can guide me to install msttcorefonts in kubuntu 7.04
[11:07] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: what if I do not have an IP address that changes?  should I still use dhclient?
[11:07] <adi_> ???
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: are you sure you have kdebase-workspace installed?
[11:07] <Fleck> kdebase-workspace is already the newest version.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: no... but thats alot more complicated... use the "network settings manager" in  system settings
[11:08] <Fleck> apt-get install output
[11:08] <adi_> msttcorefonts help needed....
[11:08] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: already tried that, no success
[11:08] <justme> nosrednaekim: yes
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: haha...well check out that site I gave you and someone there might have one. and good luck ;)
[11:09] <adi_> how can I install them
[11:09] <justme> nosrednaekim: no one :(
[11:09] <Pollywog> I think I will have to get a laptop that has kubuntu installed and wifi already working
[11:09] <Pollywog> :)
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: check #ubuntu
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: although that IS rather off-topic
[11:09] <justme> nosrednaekim: already tried :(
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> justme: can't you just boot a livecD?
[11:10] <zeke> is there a dictionary for openoffice?
[11:10] <justme> nosrednaekim: sure, but im on mac right now... if i only knew a command lspci-like :)
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> zeke: I think you can get one...
[11:11] <zeke> there's a thesaurus
[11:11] <xjkx> i need the firmware of my wireless network card, what should i do
[11:11] <adi_> msttcorefonts help install nedeed
[11:11] <adi_> .......
[11:12] <xjkx> my broadcom dell wireless 1390 doesnt work, they told me i need the firmware
[11:12] <Fleck> nosrednaekim :( so? :(
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> justme: jst boot a liveCD..
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> Fleck: dunno
[11:13] <ScorpKing> xjkx: does it tell you which firmware?
[11:13] <ScorpKing> xjkx: lol. dmesg usually shows that.
[11:14] <root_____> hi
[11:14] <xjkx> ScorpKing, the machine isnt here but what when i get this name?
[11:14] <ScorpKing> xjkx: google or come back here. :)
[11:15] <xjkx> ScorpKing, i googled many times, they tell different things
[11:15] <xjkx> I even showed to #ubuntu-devel it
[11:15] <timbo__> hi
[11:15] <ScorpKing> xjkx: i can give you a link but not sure if that will work for you. one sec...
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> hi timbo__
[11:16] <ScorpKing> xjkx: my favourite link - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty :D
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> justme: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~ambrown4/linuxondv9000.html
[11:17] <timbo__> I,m having a problem, in kde it cant see my 80 gig removable hard drive but gnome mounts it
[11:17] <timbo__> i have went through konq trying to figure it out, any suggestions?
[11:18] <xjkx> ScorpKing, its better than the one i had, anyway, it still tells me to apt-get while i have no connection
[11:18] <timbo__> not removable i mean external
[11:18] <ScorpKing> xjkx: is that your card?
[11:19] <xjkx> yes
[11:19] <ScorpKing> xjkx: go to "If that doesn't work, [WWW]  look here"
[11:19] <ScorpKing> xjkx: download that package and copy it to you box. install it and it will work.
[11:22] <xjkx> ScorpKing, you mean here? http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/ then all i have to do is dpkg -i bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb and it will suddenly work?
[11:23] <xjkx> the .tar.gz package will probably not work because i will need to build essentials
[11:23] <ScorpKing> xjkx: yeah, that's the firmware. that's what i did. :D
[11:24] <xjkx> ScorpKing, and you did no other config at all? just installed it? ;o will do tomorrow on the machine :)
[11:24] <ScorpKing> xjkx: just like that. :)
[11:25] <ScorpKing> xjkx: one problem tho...
[11:25] <ScorpKing> xjkx: i can't use authenticated connections. still working on a fix. it goes to 28% and then stops.
[11:27] <Capt_Carrot> i have a bit of a quandry, a little conundrum
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to use the laptop, but fsck wants to have its way with it
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> how can i stop the fsck check on boot?
[11:28] <timbo__> I,m having a problem, in kde it cant see my 80 gig removable hard drive but gnome mounts it
[11:28] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: i did have such problem, but its fine with ndiswrapper
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i just need to get my homework done, and i'll be set
[11:28] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: i don't have ndiswrapper installed yet. looking at it... :)
[11:29] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: thas easy to install
[11:29] <ScorpKing> apt-get?
[11:30] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: apt-get install ndiswrapper-common (i think)
[11:30] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: then, get your Windows Driver for wifi
[11:30] <ScorpKing> Daisuke_Ido: i think i saw someone with that problem here before. they had to delete a file in / if i remember correctly.
[11:31] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: thanks. i got the drivers somewhere and linux ones are installed.
[11:32] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: if you wanted to run ndiswrapper, you should try win drivers ;)
[11:32] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: the card work with open networks tho.
[11:33] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: i hope these will be solved soon
[11:33] <ScorpKing> yeah, me 2
[11:38] <ScorpKing> emilsedgh: hehe - http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=38866
[11:43] <Fleck> i think (hope), that i did all to install kde4 but when i login in kdm - it just restarts... :( anyone?
[11:44] <ScorpKing> i see Disassocation with wpa_supplicant is fixed in ndiswrapper v1.48
[11:44] <ScorpKing> hmmm...
[11:44] <ScorpKing> and (Re)Association / (Re)Authentication issues with wpa_supplicant with 2.6.23 kernels fixed.
[11:45] <ScorpKing> maybe one day it will be easy
[11:55] <Pollywog> I had wifi working but can't get it to work after a reinstall, maybe I need to install the driver from serialmonkey
[11:56] <Pollywog> I think that is what is causing the problem, I am almost sure I used rt2500 from serialmonkey last time
[11:57] <Pollywog> what is a good wifi card for kubuntu?
[11:57] <Pollywog> and don't say Ralink ;)
[12:00] <Pollywog> can networkmanager be used in KDE?
[12:00] <Dragnslcr> !knetworkmanager
[12:01] <Pollywog> ty
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Dragnslcr> !info knetworkmanager
[12:01] <Pollywog> no that is the one that does not work for me
[12:01] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[12:01] <Pollywog> not for wifi anyway
[12:01] <kristjan_> anyone's else lipstik style has broken gradients? (kde-style; using kubuntu package)
[12:03] <acomaco> how can i check what type of RAM i got?
[12:03] <ScorpKing> Pollywog: from what i can see from google pages you'll have to use wifi from CLI to get it working.
[12:04] <chn> hello anyone knows the adress for TV Card Settings ?
[12:04] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: that is how I had to do it before Feisty, in CLI
[12:04] <ScorpKing> acomaco: sudo lshw | grep RAM
[12:05] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: it also worked in FreeBSD on CLI
[12:05] <ScorpKing> Pollywog: it looks like that will be the way for now. it sucks tho
[12:05] <Pollywog> ScorpKing: yep... ty
[12:06] <acomaco> ScorpKing: didnt get anything..
[12:07] <ScorpKing> acomaco: try sudo lshw | less . i got 'description: SDRAM Synchronous'  with sudo lshw | grep RAM
[12:08] <ScorpKing> acomaco: or maybe sudo lshw | grep DDR
[12:09] <gan|y|med> hi
[12:10] <gan|y|med> i have a strange issue when moving windows
[12:10] <acomaco> DIMM Synchronous 533 MHz...
[12:10] <acomaco> are they good or shit?
[12:11] <gan|y|med> if i move a window above an ooo window, it does not only take up to 30% of cpu time for xorg (which seems to be normal), but also requires around 30% for soffice.bin. as soon as the window leaves the ooo window (e.g. is put on a small browser window) the issue disappears
[12:12] <gan|y|med> in general, ooo seems to be rather slow, especially impress
[12:12] <gan|y|med> any ideas, why?
[12:12] <gan|y|med> i am running a pentium m 1.8 ghz, fglrx drivers
[12:12] <acomaco> lol they are cheap as hell..2gb for 44$
[12:17] <Juacom99> hi
[12:17] <Juacom99> anyone kniow any program like alexandria?
[12:18] <tobias> ich bin raus, tsch tsch
[12:20] <gonzalo> hola gente
[12:20] <gonzalo> que tal?
[12:20] <Tm_T> !es | gonzalo
[12:20] <ubotu> gonzalo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:21] <Pollywog> oh I almost have wifi working now in CLI but the light on the laptop goes on and off
[12:21] <gonzalo> ok boy
[12:22] <gonzalo> i actually don't know how to get to the spanish room, could you let me know how to do it please?
[12:22] <Tm_T>  /join #kubuntu-es
[12:23] <gonzalo> ok i actually found it
[12:23] <gonzalo> thank you and good bye
[12:27] <gan|y|med> ok, impress uses up to 90% cpu usage when scrolling backwards in pres mode. any ideas?
[12:27] <markgreene> Hey guys. I am installing steam using wine, and I went to install winetools so I could install the fonts i need easily. When I run winetools from the command line it says that it cannot locate a file from the libgtk library, but that library is installed. So where do I go from here?
[12:29] <gan|y|med> when is the release date for gutsy?
[12:29] <markgreene> gan|y|med: It's in eleven days
[12:30] <markgreene> gan|y|med: Found at the top of the page http://ubuntu.com ;-)
[12:30] <neversfelde> mhh. in Germany it should be ten days :D
[12:30] <markgreene> neversfelde: The world is flat! I keep forgetting
[12:30] <gan|y|med> yeah, sorry, i am busy researching other stuff, so i thought i might "use" you ;)
[12:31] <neversfelde> markgreene: rofl
[12:31] <markgreene> gan|y|med: Use away. That's the easiest question I have ever answered in here!
[12:31] <markgreene> Anyone here have winetools working in the Beta of Gusty?
[12:32] <neversfelde> markgreene: I do not use wine, but I have Gutsy installed
[12:33] <neversfelde> so I can try
[12:33] <gan|y|med> markgreene: wanna have a tougher one?
[12:33] <neversfelde> du you have an url where I can get winetools?
[12:34] <CPrompt^> how can i fix broken packages?  I tried to upgrade a couple of libs which failed.  Now 2 of them are "BROKEN(installed)"
[12:34] <gan|y|med> hmm, installing kde 4. let's have a look
[12:34] <gan|y|med> CPrompt^: apt-get -f install maybe
[12:35] <CPrompt^> gan|y|med : do i just need to do "apt-get -f install" with the package name?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> no, just the command
[12:35] <gan|y|med> apt is clever
[12:35] <CPrompt^> gotcha.  I'll give it a go now ;)
[12:36] <gan|y|med> gosh, either my connection is rubbish or some 100 people had the same idea at the exact same time as i did
[12:36] <gan|y|med> CPrompt^: you could also try dpkg-reconfigure package
[12:37] <markgreene> gan|y|med: To install a package from the command line you need to prepend the word
[12:37] <CPrompt^> gan|y|med :  i think I will try the second option.  It reported 17 packages will be removed.  One of them bing kde-core  :0
[12:37] <markgreene> gan|y|med: "sudo". The command should look "sudo apt-get install WHATEVER
[12:37] <CPrompt^> markgreene : i'm trying to fix a broken package
[12:39] <markgreene> CPrompt^: My experience is lacking. I have always taken the cheap way out and had Synaptic do that for me. If you go into Synaptic Package Manager there is an option in the menus to fix broken packages
[12:39] <MrMazda> Does gutsy have a startup option that allows to use legacy drivers instead of libata for IDE HDs?


[07:39] <Burgundavia> anybody alive?
[07:49] <pro-rsoft> hi
[07:49] <pro-rsoft> whats this channel about
[07:52] <Burgundavia> this is for fridge.ubuntu.com
[07:52] <pro-rsoft> ok