[00:00] <ubuntu-tester> SimplySeth: does its icon appear on the panel?
[00:00] <QaDeS> can someone help me updating my CA certificates on ubuntu 10.04? my newest ones are from 2011 and i'm starting to get funny errors :|
[00:00] <SimplySeth> ubuntu-tester:  not until I run NetworkManager on the CLI
[00:01] <ncsquid22> rmbell: I think I know what you problem is
[00:01] <ubuntu-tester> QaDeS: ubuntu doesn't have sertificates. browser has
[00:02] <ncsquid22> traffic is probably getting to the final destination but I don't think it knows how to get back from where it came.....
[00:02] <ncsquid22> rmbell: here is the solution...
[00:02] <rmbell> heres the host info (ufw status, ifconfig, and iptables list) http://pastebin.com/MzGwVmRt
[00:02] <QaDeS> @ubuntu-tester the errors appear in my mail evolution mail client. using chrome here without any problems
[00:03] <rudi_> buenas!
[00:03] <ubuntu-tester> QaDeS: ok, evolution has its' own set of cretificates
[00:03] <QaDeS> quess it's using the certs in /etc/ssl/certs. do you know where they come from?
[00:04] <ncsquid22> rmbell: first flush your rules..."iptables -F"
[00:04] <rmbell> and vm info http://pastebin.com/adcn8VeL
[00:04] <rmbell> okay
[00:04] <ncsquid22> then check this out: http://pastebin.com/8x4JqgC6
[00:05] <ncsquid22> rmbell: please make you type your IP address correctly
[00:05] <ncsquid22> that should work
[00:05] <QaDeS> @ubuntu-tester can you help me finding which packages to update? i'm totally lost
[00:06] <rmbell> heh, flushing the iptables hosed the ssh connection, didnt it?
[00:06] <ncsquid22> rmbell: It depends on your rules
[00:06] <rmbell> i had been using ufw, with only those prerouting rules added manual
[00:07] <ubuntu-tester> QaDeS: they come from package ca-certificates. i was wrong about 'ubuntu doesn't have certs'
[00:07] <ncsquid22> rmbell: if you use iptables to blacklist and whitelist stuff and you had an ssh session going...then maybe it killed it
[00:08] <ncsquid22> rmbell: let me know if it worked
[00:08] <rudi_> hi everybody, i have a problem with the boot Linux 3.2.0-24-generic, system says: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed ; anyone can help me please?
[00:09] <ubuntu-tester> ncsquid22: keep in mind, rmbell have ufw and on reboot/reload ufw will flush all manually added rules and place it's own
[00:09] <rmbell> which im going to do now to get back in lol
[00:09] <ncsquid22> right: rmbell try this: "sudo iptables-save"
[00:10] <rmbell> ssh session is killed, no access
[00:10] <rmbell> but like ubuntu-tester said, a reboot should flush everything and get me back in
[00:10] <tempspace> Is anybody using an Ultrabook that they are really satisfied with Ubuntu on?
[00:10] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: ask hoster to reboot :)
[00:11] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  its OVH, already in their panel rebooting :)
[00:11] <ncsquid22> rmbell: try: "sudo iptables-apply" then "sudo iptables-save"
[00:11] <ncsquid22> that should do
[00:11] <SimplySeth> I did the server install then installed the ubuntu-desktop package ... now NetworkManager will not start on login
[00:12] <ikonia> SimplySeth why not just install ubuntu desktop ?
[00:12] <ikonia> why do a server install to then install the desktop pacakge ?
[00:12] <ubuntu-tester> SimplySeth: is it desktop or server?
[00:12] <ncsquid22> if not...then you can do this: "sudo iptables-save >> myiptables.rules" then after reboot you can do "sudp iptables-restore myiptables.rules"
[00:13] <DamoclesXV> where am I?
[00:13] <ikonia> DamoclesXV: you're in the #ubuntu IRC channel for ubuntu technical support
[00:13] <ikonia> !topic | DamoclesXV
[00:14] <rudi_> hi everybody, i have a problem with the boot Linux 3.2.0-24-generic, system says: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info] *ERROR* MUX INFO call failed ; anyone can help me please?
[00:14] <gmachine_24> I am attempting to format a USB-connected hard drive which I cannot locate on my computer - ?? How to I find it? Thanks.
[00:14] <ikonia> gmachine_24 what do you mean you can 't find it ?
[00:15] <gmachine_24> ikonia, uhm, I mean I can't find it to format it.
[00:15] <ikonia> gmachine_24: what do you mean you can't find it ?
[00:15] <gmachine_24> ikonia, where would a hard drive connected via a usb interface be located? It's not under fdisk -l, etc.
[00:16] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  if i put all the iptables commands in the ufw before rule, do i just service ufw restart after?
[00:16] <ikonia> gmachine_24: if you do "sudo fdisk -l" do you see the device
[00:16] <gmachine_24> ikonia, as I just said, no.
[00:16] <ikonia> gmachine_24: no, you didn't you said "fdisk -l" I said "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:16] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: you do ufw reload
[00:16] <gmachine_24> ikonia, fine.
[00:16] <gmachine_24> sudo fdisk -l
[00:17] <ikonia> gmachine_24: is it visible in "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:17] <gmachine_24> ikonia, no.
[00:17] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: but read about syntax and see examples first
[00:17] <ikonia> do you see it adding a line in dmesg or the syslog
[00:18] <abailarri> Saludos. Mi conexion wifi con Debian me funciona muy mal. Alguien podria orientarme sobre que es lo que puede estar produciendo esto?
[00:18] <ikonia> abailarri: join #debian
[00:19] <oblivian> :q
[00:23] <mark_> hade
[00:23] <tempspace> Anybody using Ubuntu on an Ultrabook?
[00:24] <majnoon> i have on an acer aspire one
[00:24] <ubuntu-tester> !anyone | tempspace
[00:25] <oo-dragon> hello,  I have been searching all day trying to get my LTSP in Edubuntu (12.04) to auto mount windows user shares.  I think I need some help.  The main sources I have been going to are the man page for pam_mount and a older active directory integration (says its for 9.04)
[00:25] <gmachine_24> ikonia, not that I can see
[00:25] <tempspace> majnoon, Are you running Ubuntu on it? If so, are you very happy with it?
[00:25] <ikonia> gmachine_24: then either the device is dead, or the usb ports are hung
[00:25] <oo-dragon> I basically just need a way to easily mount the user shares from windows Server in LTSP
[00:26] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  you mean mount a windows share via the fstab file?  or automount a home share?
[00:26] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: automount.  its for a school, integrating the LTSP with their exsiting widows Active directory domain
[00:27] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  the nautilus file manager is supposed to be able to browse and access shares also. they would get mounted to the .gvfs directory
[00:27] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: There should be activity in dmesg when you plug it in. If there isn't, there's a hardware issue (or usb driver, unlikely).
[00:27] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  'automount' can be interperted several ways.
[00:27] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  you can add fstab entrys to mount specific shares.
[00:27] <majnoon> it pretty good ,but had to modify setup (hd fried) installed ubuntu in vmware on usb drive then plug and play
[00:27] <histo> majnoon: acer revo here
[00:27] <jhutchins> oo-dragon: What do you mean by user sshares?
[00:28] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: I need them mounted at the terminals the clients will login to through LTSP
[00:28] <NinjaMyNinja> Is there a way to use something in one of the LIVE booted *buntu's to over write/wipe a hard drive ?
[00:28] <NinjaMyNinja> such as shred?
[00:28] <histo> !anybody | tempspace
[00:28] <ubuntu-tester> oo-dragon: google offers a plenty of guides on 'samba auto mount'. did you try anything?
[00:28] <histo> NinjaMyNinja: Yes you can intall software in the live cds also
[00:28] <NinjaMyNinja> histo: what would I install? and what would the command be ?
[00:28] <jhutchins> NinjaMyNinja: THere are dedicated drive wipe images like dban.
[00:28] <oo-dragon> jhutchins: windows domain shares, where the users documents and files are
[00:29] <histo> NinjaMyNinja: the software will be removed after the next reboot.
[00:29] <oo-dragon> The problem comes in with integrating it into LTSP
[00:29] <histo> NinjaMyNinja: You could write /dev/random to the hard drive though to wipe it.
[00:29] <oo-dragon> because there are a few hundred users, it needs to be automated based on that user
[00:29] <ubuntu-tester> NinjaMyNinja: man shred
[00:29] <jhutchins> oo-dragon: You need their home shares by user, different shares at different times?
[00:29] <NinjaMyNinja> jhutchins: dban didn't want to work written directly to a flash drive
[00:30] <NinjaMyNinja> ubuntu-tester: lol
[00:30] <oo-dragon> jhutchins: just their home shares by user
[00:30] <ubuntu-tester> NinjaMyNinja: dd if=/dev/zero would be much faster though
[00:30] <oo-dragon> I have been trying pam_mount, but failed miserably (docs seem outdated).
[00:30] <jhutchins> NinjaMyNinja: It's supposed to.  There are other utility images that will do that, or you can just dd from /dev/random or /dev/zero to the drive using Debian.
[00:31] <histo> NinjaMyNinja: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda  bs=1M   would do the trick.  Assuming your hard drive is at /dev/sda
[00:31] <jonascj> So I have finally figured out that some scripts in /etc/acpi (e.g. thinkpad-stretchortouchpad.sh) gets called on certain key presses/combinations (e.g. fn+f8 which toggles the touchpad). Does anyone have any idea why these scripts get called both with and without gnome-settings-daemon but only work when gnome is running? Does this indicate that these scripts do nothing after all?
[00:31] <histo> NinjaMyNinja: or you can use /dev/random   whatever.
[00:31] <NinjaMyNinja> fdisk -l would tell me what the drive is?
[00:31] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  so the samba shares are on a windows box or linux box?
[00:32] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: Windows server 2003
[00:32] <jhutchins> NinjaMyNinja: Yes.
[00:32] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: I already have the windows authentication down, just need the shares now
[00:32] <NNK> Is there a way to query a device connected to my local network for it's configured IP using it's MAC addr?
[00:32] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, what would this usb-related output look like in dmesg? I have a bunch of lines I can paste in pastebin if someone will look at them . . .
[00:33] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  i thought  there was a special 'homes' share that if the user accessed   \\servername\home  it would get converted to  \\servername\usernameoftheuser\   but i may be thinking of how linux samba does the homes share.
[00:33] <NinjaMyNinja> so I could use dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda  bs=1M
[00:33] <majnoon_> !ot
[00:33] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, there is a line repeated that says [ 1099.964300] hub 1-2:1.0: Cannot enable port 7.  Maybe the USB cable is bad? or similar
[00:33] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: First check to see what is there before you plug it in, then plug it in and see what chaanges
[00:33] <majnoon_> ok in here in vmware now also
[00:33] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, yeah, I've been doing that.
[00:34] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: bad hardware.
[00:34] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Try a differenr usb port.
[00:34] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: I think that's a samba thing, windows usually just point to it, such as \\server\users\username
[00:34] <NinjaMyNinja> I'm guessing random would be better than just zeros?
[00:35] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, when I connected the drive to Windows 7 computer I got a message that said the drive needs formatting and when I tried to format it I got a message that said the drive cannot be access because of a security setting............
[00:37] <ubuntu-tester> NinjaMyNinja: better but MUCH slower. i bet you can't wait that long and hit Ctrl+C
[00:37] <Narco> hi ubuntu users
[00:38] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hai
[00:38] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: another guy who couldn't stay to help, sugested making a .desktop in the /etc/xdg/autostart
[00:39] <Narco> need some help
[00:39] <gmachine_24> Narco, state your problem or question.
[00:39] <DrManhattan> what is a good firewall management program I can use for ubuntu? a web based firewall management package is fine as long as it's easy to understand. I used to use firestarter, but it has no option for DMZ mode...
[00:39] <ubuntu-tester> Narco: go on
[00:39] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: but I don't know much about that, and I think my syntex is off.  I'm trying to use gvfs-mount smb://server/share but to no avail.  using this as a guide'ish https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[00:39] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  and just have the file manager open that  share on login you mean?
[00:40] <Narco> what do you do when you forget your password
[00:40] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  can nautilus open that share if you type in that url?
[00:41] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: yes
[00:41] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: using gvfs-mount from the command line any way
[00:41] <ubuntu-tester> Narco: simple: remember it or reset it
[00:42] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  i mean just by typing in to the nautilus URL address bar/path bar (hit ctrl-l)
[00:42] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  if so - you could bookmark the share.
[00:42] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: how do i get that bar back in 12.04?  its just the icons you click on
[00:42] <tripelb> !grub
[00:43] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  the .desktop file could start 'nautilus smb://whatever also'
[00:43] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  i mean just by typing in to the nautilus URL address bar/path bar (hit ctrl-l)      <<<<<<<<<<<<  hit CTRL-L
[00:43] <dr_willis> ctrl-l ;)
[00:44] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: .. your right! genius.  let me try the nautilus
[00:44] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: ahh thanks for shortcut.  was wondering how to get that back.
[00:45] <tripelb> I need to know how to restore the boot loader since I munged it.
[00:45] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: can the nautilus use variables like $user or something? cause it will have to match the user using it
[00:46] <ubuntu-tester> tripelb: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:48] <histo> !firewall | DrManhattan
[00:49] <DrManhattan> I wish dd-wrt was an app that could be installed on top of ubuntu
[00:49] <DrManhattan> thank you histo
[00:49] <livefree424> anybody know how to edit hd videos from video camera every time i have tried it is choppy video
[00:50] <UnionPacificRR> #python
[00:51] <DrManhattan> No no no I mean a program to set up and use my linux box AS a router with ubuntu
[00:51] <DrManhattan> not just a basic firewall management program
[00:52] <DrManhattan> but thank you
[00:52] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: what programs did you try?
[00:53] <histo> DrManhattan: well you need several things to have it act as a hardware based router. DHCP server, firewall, and conneciton management for your internet.
[00:53] <DrManhattan> histo, what do you think of http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/ubuntu-as-a-firewallgateway-router/
[00:54] <histo> DrManhattan: there is also smoothwall pfsense etc...  There are tons of firewall distros and tools.
[00:55] <DrManhattan> histo, yes, I wish for something that i can use on an ubuntu box that also is used to run other things - zoneminder, service joomla, etc
[00:55] <histo> DrManhattan: looks good although I don't use webmin
[00:55] <DrManhattan> serving
[00:55] <dr_willis> oo-dragon:  thats why i mentioned a 'homes' share - samba has a special share that gets interperted as the users name.. no idea how windows does it
[00:56] <histo> DrManhattan: You may want to look into running your firewall apps in an LXC .
[00:56] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: yea windows has a GPO that points to the specific user directory, usually setup with variables for %user% kind of thing
[00:57] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: but I think you have given me enough ^_^  I figure I can create a script to get username=$(whoami) then just point the shortcut to the script
[00:57] <oo-dragon> dr_willis: thanks a bunch ^_^
[00:57] <DrManhattan> histo, if my box supported giving pci/e devices to the VM id be all over that
[00:58] <histo> DrManhattan: you don't need a VM wiht LXC's
[00:58] <histo> DrManhattan: they have direct access to your hardware
[00:58] <histo> DrManhattan: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[00:58] <DrManhattan> WHat? REALLY?
[00:59] <histo> DrManhattan: You don't have to especially if it's just a home server.  I've just been reading about it lately and i'm hooked.
[00:59] <DrManhattan> histo, thank you very much
[01:03] <kmiller> Hi I need help fixing Blender for some reason it isnt starting up
[01:03] <ubuntu-tester> kmiller: what does it say?
[01:04] <kmiller> it doesnt say anything i click it and nothing happens this is the first time ive tried running it
[01:05] <ubuntu-tester> kmiller: did it install OK? no error messages?
[01:05] <livefree424> ubuntu-tester: i tried using adobe premier with wine that was a no go i also tried some that were in the software center and even simple playback of 1080p 60fps with vlc and other players is choppy
[01:05] <kmiller> yah i have ubuntu studio the newest one installed and it comes on this os already so i tried uninstalling and re installing
[01:06] <livefree424> with this same laptop and win 7 its fine so its an ubuntu thing
[01:06] <dr_willis> uninstalliong/reinstalling an app - is a windows mind set thing. ;)
[01:06] <dr_willis> kmiller:  run the app from a terminal. look for any error messages
[01:07] <kmiller> i know haha but i forgot this has a channel to get help for this sorta thing
[01:07] <evilytwisted> Hi, could someone help me figure out what could be the problem running diablo 3, here are my specs that i think you would need... doing http://pastebin.com/A7jPvRVm http://pastebin.com/Qr5mtxCu and http://pastebin.com/a89FaXF6
[01:08] <john_rambo> I was trying another distro & modified the swap partition. The installation didnt succeed so I rebooted. Xubuntu booted fine but now I am worried if Xubuntu is using swap. How to find out ?
[01:08] <dr_willis> john_rambo:  check the free command, and swapon command
[01:09] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: to have smooth 1080p playback you probably need hardware acceleration. vlc has support for it, but not as wide as windows.
[01:09] <UnionPacificRR> Bye guys
[01:10] <john_rambo> dr_willis, http://pastebin.com/ihcH3eKe
[01:10] <kmiller> whats the command line for running a program in terminal
[01:11] <livefree424> hmm i was wanting to avoid windows all together but if i have to i can just use windows for that but i am anti corporation and anti windows
[01:11] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: check cpu load when playing with vlc
[01:13] <kmiller> q
[01:14] <livefree424> i havent tried since i put a quad core cpu so i will try and see what happens
[01:16] <ubuntu-tester> kmiller: press Ctrl+Alt+T, type program name, Enter
[01:18] <kmiller> ctr+alt+t does nothing
[01:20] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: also check if gpu accelerated decoding is enabled in Preferences, Input & Codecs
[01:20] <doxavore> I can not for the life of me find how to get IcedTea working well in any browser. After an applet launches, it spins a core to 100% and freezes. All up to date on 12.10. Has anyone successfully fixed this before?
[01:20] <ubuntu-tester> kmiller: are you pressing it on desktop or in some other window?
[01:20] <kmiller> desktop
[01:22] <ubuntu-tester> kmiller: not familiar with studio interface, but try to find it in some menu, panel, etc.
[01:22] <histo> kmiller: click on the dash and start typing terminal press enter when it auto completes gnome-terminal
[01:22] <histo> kmiller: if studio has a menu it will be under accessories or system > terminal
[01:23] <kmiller> yah i can get to a terminal easily and have one up already
[01:25] <sid|laptop> ok so i just installed ubuntu for my laptop
[01:25] <sid|laptop> uh hold on
[01:25] <kmiller> info
[01:25] <livefree424> ubuntu-tester: im not seeing that I have ubuntu 12.10 and i have system settings
[01:26] <justdave> I'm trying to get x11vnc working on an Ubuntu 12.10 server.    I'm connecting over a 1Gig ethernet local link, so even if it has a lot of data to push over the line that seems confusing. any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[01:26] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: it's in vlc preferences
[01:27] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: reopen file after
[01:27] <dr_willis> justdave:  do you need to use x11vnc? it shares the current visible desktop as far as i know. so it woul dbe slower then vnc4server or tightvnc that has its own 'hidden' desktop
[01:27] <justdave> the screen redraw happens fast, it doesn't look like it's lagging at all.
[01:27] <justdave> it seems like it's the keyboard and mouse interaction that's lagging
[01:28] <justdave> if I open a shell over ssh, set DISPLAY and run something from the command line it shows up instantly
[01:28] <justdave> I just can't interact with it without major delays
[01:28] <Devlin> ok
[01:29] <Devlin> thanks to a massive burst of good fortune, I have ubuntu installed on my netbook
[01:29] <justdave> Unity doesn't seem to work in the vnc servers that keep their own desktops
[01:29] <justdave> I get a blank window
[01:29] <histo> justdave: that's vnc for you try using tightvnc or a more optimized version
[01:29] <sid|laptop> are there any ubuntu compatible gpu drivers for hp nc6400
[01:29] <dr_willis> I wouldent be using unity with vnc at all..
[01:30] <Devlin> I never liked unity, it always felt kinda disjointed
[01:30] <justdave> dr_willis: it used to work, and I'm failing to comprehend why it doesn't after upgrading the OS :)
[01:30] <dr_willis> unity works fine for me.. but with VNC  i slwyas use the lightest desktop i can
[01:30] <adrian15> Hi. Is there any special trick on Precise so that /etc/security/limits.conf seems to work for mysql user ? Trying to solve the errno 24 problems about too many files opened at the same time. Thank you.
[01:30] <dr_willis> justdave:  befor it was using unity2d i imagine.
[01:30] <dr_willis> justdave:  in 12.10 there is no Unity2d any moar
[01:30] <justdave> dr_willis: yeah, and that doesn't seem to exist anymore
[01:31] <livefree424> ok will try thanks
[01:31] <justdave> I only use it over a local network link (it's a server in a closet, and it's easier than hooking up a monitor and keyboard in the closet :)
[01:31] <justdave> and the gui config utilities are easier to use than screwing with config files
[01:31] <histo> justdave: are you using vnc over ssh?
[01:31] <justdave> histo: no, straight up VNC
[01:32] <justdave> from another box on the same local network over 1 gig link
[01:32] <dr_willis> between 2 ubuntu box's id just use ssh and x forwarding. ;)
[01:32] <justdave> and like I said, the display speed is fine, I can run something from the command line and it shows up immediately
[01:32] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  finally got a working set of iptables values but im not really sure how to translate them over to ufw, would you be able to help / know?
[01:32] <justdave> it's just the keyboard and mouse interaction that's hosed
[01:33] <Devlin> wow, they're just tearing ubuntu to pieces aren't they
[01:33] <Devlin> what happened to the old "it'll run on almost anything"
[01:33] <histo> justdave: it's probably the video
[01:33] <rmbell> if anyone knows how to convert some iptables rules to ufw before.rules, can you take a look at these http://pastebin.com/M6aAnC7C
[01:34] <Devlin> well i'm off again
[01:34] <dr_willis> Devlin:  they decided its not worth the manpower to run on dinosaurs
[01:34] <kmiller> Blender Still wont run :(
[01:34] <justdave> histo:
[01:34] <justdave> 20:32:34 < justdave> and like I said, the display speed is fine, I can run something from the command line and it shows up  immediately
[01:34] <histo> justdave: running something vs. a moving object are two completely different things.
[01:34] <justdave> (if I ssh in and set DISPLAY)
[01:34] <dr_willis> and with the changes in 12.10 it is supposed to be abnle to run unity on lower end gfx cards.. but thats a work in progress
[01:34] <justdave> histo: I'm not trying to move anything, I'm trying to click on buttons and type.
[01:34] <histo> justdave: for instance install cmatrix and run that in a terminal watch how horrible the frame rate is.
[01:35] <histo> justdave: you are moving a mouse pointer and interacting with icons that have visual effects.  I don't think you understand unity.
[01:36] <histo> justdave: check out tightvnc imo is much faster. If that isn't good enough look into freenx
[01:36] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: read man ufw-framework, see /etc/ufw/before.rules, syntax is same as iptables
[01:36] <justdave> histo: ok, I tried just that (cmatrix) and it runs full-speed, no lag. :)
[01:36] <dr_willis> if you can see the other pc's monitor  - synergy will let you controll it. ;)
[01:37] <justdave> (via "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal -e cmatrix" from an ssh shell)
[01:37] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  i tried but couldnt get the syntax right, would result in ufw-init errors :(
[01:37] <histo> justdave: so unity is the issue since there is no 2d anymore.
[01:37] <chalcedony> my husband can't get sound to work in his new computer, with ubuntu 12.04 - where to start?
[01:37] <histo> justdave: run gnome 2 or a different DE
[01:37] <histo> !sound > chalcedony
[01:38] <Byan> can anyone help me setup windows in grub?
[01:38] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: syntax is same as iptables, just omit 'iptables'
[01:38] <Byan> it wasn't automatically setup when I installed..
[01:38] <justdave> histo: how do I change that?
[01:38] <dr_willis> Byan:  try reruning update-grub to see if it finds it?
[01:38] <histo> !grub2 > Byan
[01:38] <Byan> dr_willis: does not find it
[01:38] <justdave> preferably from the command line since using the GUI to change it will be hopeless :)
[01:39] <histo> justdave: Just install another desktop environment and choose it from the login screen.
[01:39] <justdave> histo: using the gui will be hopeless
[01:39] <Byan> histo: already looked there
[01:40] <Byan> I wonder if I screwed something up with the windows install by mucking with it's paritions hrm
[01:40] <histo> justdave: okay well you could use xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies
[01:40] <kslater> is there an easy way to get grub to show me the boot menu? Short of rebooting of course.
[01:40] <justdave> histo: I have it installed, how do I tell lightdm to use it?
[01:40] <livefree424> ubuntu-tester: i enabled that and it made no difference when i go to play a file it starts for a brief second and then stops video but audio keeps playing
[01:40] <histo> justdave: click the little ubuntu logo next to your login name
[01:41] <justdave> histo: I have no gui and it's set to auto-login at boot
[01:41] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  syntax isnt the same or im not putting it into the right section or something. simply removing iptables from the commands prevents ufw from reloading/starting
[01:41] <justdave> and since I have no GUI I can't tell it to log out :)
[01:41] <histo> justdave: sudo nano /etc/lightdb/lightdm.conf  change the user-session=ubuntu  line to the session you want.
[01:42] <histo> justdave: you can get a list of session from /usr/share/xsessions
[01:42] <ubuntu-tester> livefree424: maybe your hardware is not supported. ask on vlc channel
[01:42] <livefree424> i just tried it in openshot video editor and it played just fine
[01:42] <livefree424> so at least i can edit
[01:43] <histo> justdave: sorry type there.  Do ls /usr/share/xsessions/   to see what sessions are availible.  Then sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and change the user line
[01:43] <alami> i ahve a problem with matlab and i google and the question is i need to make a link to a libstc but i don't know how
[01:43] <histo> justdave: reboot and vnc into your xfce desktop
[01:43] <wolftune> so I'm using the latest AMD catalyst proprietary drivers and it seems to be working, but something is bugging me
[01:43] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: do your commands above work when added with iptables?
[01:44] <histo> justdave: also if this is a server you really need to learn command line. Much easier than dealing with X and these issues.
[01:44] <justdave> histo: I know command line, quite well.
[01:44] <rmbell> ubuntu-tester:  yes, i think it has to do with how it calls filters, looking a bit deeper
[01:44] <rmbell> since mine started with -t nat
[01:44] <justdave> but it's a media server, and the config for the tuner config and whatnot is all gui
[01:44] <wolftune> When I installed the AMD drivers in the past, glxgears (I know it's not a benchmark) was relatively high fps. Now it is tied to refresh rate around 60fps.
[01:44] <wolftune> is this an indication that I didn't install right or something isn't set right?
[01:44] <histo> justdave: Why do you even have a desktop on a headless server then?
[01:45] <justdave> histo: so I can get into the config utilities for the media server
[01:45] <dr_willis> justdave:  for a headless server  you definatly dont want to be using x11vnc server.
[01:45] <histo> justdave: what media server are you using?
[01:45] <justdave> (other boxes in the house hooked up to TVs stream from it)
[01:45] <justdave> histo: mythtv
[01:45] <histo> dr_willis
[01:45] <carrett> hi. i want to be able to run ubuntu off my usb drive while having a separate partition for just storing files like normal. is there a page that'll guide me through setting that up? i'm currently on debian...thanks.
[01:46] <histo> justdave: yeah you can control mythtv from the command line and edit it's configs.
[01:46] <justdave> used to use vnc4server with a non-console X server created by vnc4server
[01:46] <dwarder> hello
[01:46] <justdave> but that quit working when I upgraded to 12.10
[01:47] <histo> justdave: also if the only thing you are using in the gui is mythtv  you may want to just startx on the box and run the myththv app. A lot let resource hungry than lightdm+unity+mythtv
[01:47] <ubuntu-tester> rmbell: i think you should modify chains you add rules to. ufw made its own chains, see comments in the beginning
[01:47] <justdave> you *can* edit config files, but the gui is still easier to use.
[01:47] <justdave> which isn't always the case - there's a lot of stuff I'd rather edit config files for
[01:48] <ubuntu-tester> !persistent | carrett
[01:48] <dwarder> i have my windows 7 installed and using all hdd, i've inserted ubuntu 12.10 dvd 64 bit, and it said that i have ubuntu 12.04 installed and asked me if i want to update it or install the new version alongside, what the?!
[01:48] <justdave> since half of mythtv's config is in files and half is in the database it's easier to let the config utilities figure it out :)
[01:48] <dwarder> did windows was copied from ubuntu 12.04? ;)
[01:48] <justdave> (than having to open an mysql command line and figure out SQL to change things for some of them)
[01:48] <carrett> ubuntu-tester: nope. but thanks.
[01:48] <histo> justdave: can't you control the config from the clients anyhoot?
[01:49] <justdave> histo: some of it, not all of it.
[01:49] <ubuntu-tester> !sound | chalcedony
[01:49] <histo> justdave: Yeah I'd look at running just X without a desktop environment or login manager.  To save resources
[01:49] <histo> justdave: can I pm you?
[01:50] <justdave> sure
[01:50] <dr_willis> histo:  or just use a uber-light wm.. such as 'jwm'
[01:50] <histo> dr_willis: running awesome wm here
[01:50] <histo> on my lappy
[01:52] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> What's This?   W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[01:52] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/trekcaptainusa-tw/znc/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[01:53] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  you are using a ppa thats either dead, or not for your release.
[01:53] <dr_willis> !info znc
[01:53] <dr_willis> !info znc oneiric
[01:53] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how can I fix this?
[01:53] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  find a differnt ppa. or use the version in the repos.. or use source
[01:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm ok
[01:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ty
[01:54] <ubuntu-tester> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: this ppa is really dead
[01:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm
[01:55] <dr_willis> !oneiric
[01:56] <dr_willis> I doubt if theres much demand for 11.10 ppa's
[01:56] <dr_willis> !11.10
[01:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> if i download the new one it will overwrite the old one?
[01:57] <dr_willis> download the new one what exactly?
[01:57] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> what is a ppa
[01:57] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i forgot why i havent installed a ppa
[01:57] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> isnt it like an update?
[01:58] <ubuntu-tester> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: ppa is a source for updates
[01:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm
[01:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so how can i dlete this ppa
[01:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> delete
[01:58] <OerHeks> ppa-purge
[01:59] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[01:59] <ubuntu-tester> from system settings, software sources
[01:59] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> cmd not found
[01:59] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh ok
[01:59] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded ?
[01:59] <dormito_> Im trying to move my /home dir to a new partition. my new partition mounts on data and I want the contents in /data/home. I have a line in my fstab to bind /home to /data/home. I ran this command "rsync -vcrlpEACogDt /home /data" to put sync the home directories. the directory in /data was created, however when I did a diff on the two, its seems that a huge number of .o .obj .exe .so (and maybe a few other binary type) files were NOT copied...
[01:59] <dormito_>  Im not terribly familure with rsync but from what I read in the man page, these files shouldnt have been skipped (Im using ubuntu 12.10 64, and I ran the rsync cmd from a root console recovery so no files were in use)
[02:00] <histo> !enter | [_-S1L3NC3-_]
[02:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[02:01] <histo> !seperatehome | dormito_
[02:01] <ubuntu-tester> dormito_: check owner and permissions of these files in source home
[02:02] <histo> !separatehome | dormito_
[02:02] <dethwish> niggers
[02:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Why do i keep getting this? File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 384, in raw_decode
[02:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>     raise ValueError("No JSON object could be decoded")
[02:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
[02:02] <KylieBrooks> i need an operator
[02:02] <AntiSol> hello. can anybody help me with a compiling / linking problem?
[02:03] <KylieBrooks> dethwish<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu - <dethwish> niggers
[02:03] <IdleOne> KylieBrooks: they are gone now
[02:04] <sid|laptop> can somebody help me find gpu drivers for the hp nc6400 for ubuntu
[02:04] <KylieBrooks> IdleOne: well should be banned
[02:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i keep getting ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded
[02:06] <AntiSol> I am trying to compile fbexport, but I get the following: http://pastebin.com/VBhEJmUm
[02:06] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what program
[02:07] <mojtaba> Hi,
[02:07] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> what do you mean, its on ubuntu 11.10
[02:07] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ill pastebin it
[02:07] <krishna> How do I restart dnsmasq?
[02:07] <mojtaba> How can I run VPN server on linux?
[02:07] <AntiSol> I think that this means the linker is not finding libfbclient properly. the file is there (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfbclient.so) but I can't seem to get ld to pick it up
[02:07] <mojtaba> Is it VPS server?
[02:07] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://pastebin.com/n4W4Hb3s                                    --json error---
[02:07] <mojtaba> Does anybody have any idea?
[02:08] <mojtaba> regarding VPS or VPN server?
[02:08] <histo> mojtaba: openvpn
[02:08] <krishna> i don't see dnsmasq listed in services. restarting network-manager has no effect
[02:08] <Atterdon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[02:08] <AntiSol> mojtaba: this is a good basic VPN howto: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/78-static-key-mini-howto.html
[02:08] <{Saint_Michael}> Hello :)
[02:08] <mojtaba> Thanks to all for the answers
[02:08] <mojtaba> I will check the links
[02:08] <Atterdon> I think recent versions of Ubuntu have a built in feature in network connections
[02:09] <AntiSol> can anybody help me with my linking problem???
[02:09] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: 1 sec
[02:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[02:10] <\\Mr_C\\> what does ... wireless-mode managed ... " managed " do in this or what is the possible options?
[02:10] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: THE_PPA is only a placeholder
[02:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh
[02:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so what would I put?
[02:11] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what did you get the instruction from
[02:13] <histo> \\Mr_C\\: it means it's able to connect to an access point
[02:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm
[02:13] <histo> \\Mr_C\\: as oppsed to ad hoc etc...
[02:13] <\\Mr_C\\> what if i take comment out the line with # what does it change?
[02:14] <soahccc> How can I pass all arguments exactly as I have got them to another program in a bash script? I try to log calls to git but some commands cause my wrapper to fail
[02:14] <AntiSol> soahccc: echo $*
[02:14] <excesseye> ?leave
[02:14] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: well?
[02:14] <Atterdon> Is anyone aware of a 64 bit version of the legacy catalyst drivers?
[02:15] <soahccc> I used $@ and I read that these are quite the same (couldn't find much about it because google doesn't let me google special characters)
[02:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> let me see
[02:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> drwills
[02:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but he pointed me to a link
[02:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> im trying to remove W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/trekcaptainusa-tw/znc/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:16] <KylieBrooks> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what link though
[02:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[02:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ill brb
[02:18] <histo> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: you could just go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  and have a looksee in there.
[02:22] <oo-dragon> is there a way I can do a mkdir in a script but for a samba share without needing root rights?
[02:22] <krishna> well i seem to be able to reload dnsmasq by killing it and then restarting network-manager. there must to be a less stupid way to do this.
[02:23] <soahccc> AntiSol: $* doesn't work either. I think it is the commit message thing, do I have to care about something else too?
[02:24] <Michael_87> hey I'm running ubuntu 12.10 off a jumpdrive, but It won't let me mount another usb and access the files. Please help
[02:24] <jrib> soahccc: ask #bash.  I believe you should use "$@"  (quotes not optional)
[02:24] <usr13> oo-dragon: Sure, don't see why not...  (You always use the appropriate user.)
[02:25] <soahccc> jrib: I tried all variants but thanks I'll ask in the other channel
[02:25] <oo-dragon> usr13: don't suppose you know how? :P
[02:26] <usr13> oo-dragon: prolly, but I dono for sure about your specific needs.
[02:26] <mickster04> sshad
[02:26] <mickster04> cd scruff
[02:26] <mickster04> ./cheBi
[02:26] <mickster04> feck
[02:26] <FloodBot1> mickster04: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <usr13> oo-dragon: See my PM
[02:31] <lucenut> Hey guys. I just installed Xubuntu 12.10 on an HP Mini netbook. And I don't have any wireless.
[02:34] <kunji> krishna: sudo service dnsmasq restart
[02:36] <histo> lucenut: What type of wireless chipset do you ahve lspci will show you
[02:36] <MikeRL> Hello guys. It appears either Xorg, the open source AMD graphics driver, or the kernel is taking a dump and hard freezing. I am on Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit development branch with the latest updates. I also had hard freezes on Quantal. What logs should I gather since there is no error report popping up when the crash occurs. I cannot CTRL ALT F whatever to open up a virtual terminal session.
[02:37] <usr13> MikeRL: 13.04?
[02:37] <histo> MikeRL: #ubuntu+1 please
[02:37] <MikeRL> OK. I will change channels.
[02:37] <histo> MikeRL: for quantal you can stay but not 13.04
[02:38] <oo-dragon> Does any one know how to check to make sure a windows share (example smb://server/'share') exists before trying to connect to it?
[02:38] <MikeRL> Well, if it happens on Quantal, where should I gather the logs from? Are there more logs than those in /var/log that I should gather?
[02:38] <histo> MikeRL: you should gather the /var/log/syslog dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log   for bug report
[02:38] <oo-dragon> and if it does not, create it?
[02:38] <MikeRL> Thanks. I will go over to the development channel and see if the same applies to Raring.
[02:38] <Nasuga> MikeRL: I can confirm the same thing is happening to me on 12.04
[02:38] <histo> oo-dragon: smbtree
[02:39] <MikeRL> Yep. Annoying. My guess is you also have an AMD Radeon HD graphics card?
[02:39] <AntiSol> oo-dragon: um... you could maybe use smbclient to do the test but creating the share will be difficult at best
[02:39] <Nasuga> MikeRL: Yep, with catalyst 12.10.
[02:40] <Nasuga> MikeRL: OR atleast the newest one AMD's site offered.
[02:40] <histo> AntiSol: smbtree will display all the shares visable tot he machine.
[02:40] <MikeRL> With the closed source drivers? Neither computer I have will even load those (AMD's problem) The open source drivers are crapping out on me which is strange to me, since this has never happened before, believe it or not.
[02:41] <Nasuga> MikeRL, I had to run the script in root with -buildpkg and have to keep forcing dpkg to install the debs it produced.
[02:41]  * histo happy with nvidia
[02:41] <smw> Anyone know how to configure empathy in ubuntu 12.10?
[02:42] <smw> pretty much my complaints perfectly match http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2079243
[02:42] <Nasuga> histo: Nvidia doesn't work for me either :(, I have blue youtube with black pixels transparent.
[02:42] <smw> All the settings are gone for no apparent reason
[02:42] <histo> Nasuga: not here.  install flash
[02:43] <Nasuga> histo: My flash is the newest. It's still blue and black pixels are still transparent. I had the problem on Windows and Linux on different comps.
[02:43] <AntiSol> histo: I wasn't aware of smbtree, good tip! :)
[02:43] <kunji> Nasuga: google around a bit, I think that is fairly common with Nvidia chips and there are workarounds, I've had the problem before, don't remember exactly what I did to fix it though.
[02:43] <histo> Nasuga: I would blame flash not nvidia on that one.
[02:44] <Nasuga> kunji: I figured out how to fix the blue screen for the majority of the time but if I go blue screen it starts to strobe and change colours.
[02:44] <kunji> histo: It's a combination I think, but the workaround is on the Nvidia side
[02:45] <kunji> Nasuga: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1079711
[02:46] <dr_willis> Im reminded now of why i always use these Youtube-downloader apps. ;)
[02:46] <kunji> Nasuga: It's libvdpau  someone has a ppa with a fixed one though
[02:47] <kunji> dr_willis: Those are great, though you need to remember to update it with it's own update thing after getting it from the software center, otherwise it doesn't work.
[02:47] <Nasuga> Kunji: I already read the thread before and it only fixed the blue without full screen. Full screen would kill anyone who's sensitive to stobe lights.
[02:48] <kunji> Nasuga: Hmm, interesting, might be unrelated then, that had fixed mine for fullscreen.
[02:50] <mojtaba> Hi
[02:51] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I configure openvpn server and configure my windows clients?
[02:51] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to ubuntu and linux era.
[02:51] <dr_willis> !openvpn
[02:51] <mojtaba> Any simplified help is highly appreciated.
[02:52] <kunji> mojtaba: openvpn is ambitious for a newbie ^_^, for something as particular as that you're much more likely to find good help in #openvpn
[02:52] <mojtaba> kunji: Thank you very much
[02:52] <mojtaba> ubottu: Thank you very much
[02:52] <mojtaba> :)
[02:53] <smw> anyone know if it is possible to install the 12.04 version of empathy
[02:53] <kunji> mojtaba: It's dr_willis that needs the thanks for calling up ubottu: see the "!openvpn"
[02:53] <xangua> smw: sudo apt-get install empathy ; it already comes installed by default
[02:54] <smw> xangua, I am on 12.10, but I want the old empathy
[02:54] <smw> xangua, the new one is a major regression for a ton of reasons
[02:54] <mojtaba> thanks all
[02:55] <kunji> smw: It's certainly possible, I forget the commands though.  Do a little googling, and if you can't find it, then I'll do some googling :P
[02:55] <cincinnatus> Were some Compiz plugins (e.g. cube deformation) removed from Quantal?
[02:55] <dr_willis> cincinnatus:  a lot ae disabled by default. or not installed by default
[02:55] <dr_willis> some compiz plugins can break unity
[02:56] <cincinnatus> dr_willis: I know some of them are experimental / unstable as well
[02:56] <cincinnatus> dr_willis: (which I don't mind)
[02:56] <aperture_> My friend installed ubuntu 12.04(?). It didn't have dash. He did an update with 1000 changes and now X11 isn't working and it says it can't mount /
[02:56] <smw> kunji, any idea what happened to it?
[02:56] <aperture_> I can drop into root console, anything I can do to help it?
[02:56] <smw> kunji, they completely destroyed empathy
[02:56] <kunji> smw: Or it's probably in the manual for apt-get, see if there's info for installing a particular version of a package in there (run man apt-get)
[02:56] <kunji> smw: No idea, I don't use empathy
[02:56] <cincinnatus> dr_willis: but I see more plugins in Precise than in Quantal after installing all of those compiz-plugins-* packages
[02:58] <smw> kunji, nm, I just uninstalled empathy and installed pidgin :-\
[02:59] <kunji> smw: Well, if that works for you, I always use pidgin myself anyway.
[03:00] <smw> kunji, I feel like every upgrade is a regression :-\
[03:00] <kunji> smw: Hmm, hit and miss here.
[03:02] <machicola> which command line tool could be used to find the IPs of computers on the local network
[03:03] <dr_willis> machicola:  you could scan the network with nmap - but thats a little over kill at times
[03:04] <dr_willis> a ping scan should work  in most cases
[03:05] <machicola> nice, which IPs would I be scanning? don't I need to give an IP range
[03:05] <machicola> ok, so IPs are not freely given I take it
[03:05] <machicola> would have to scan a particular range that is typical of the local network range
[03:06] <dr_willis> machicola:  yes.. you would be giveing it a range to scan
[03:06] <machicola> ok
[03:07] <dr_willis> unless you want to scan the whole internet. ;P
[03:07] <dr_willis> unless you want to scan the whole internet. ;P
[03:08] <dormito> I ran the rsync command as specified in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving however  when I ran a diff I still got "File /home/dullfire/.dropbox/command_socket is a socket while file /data/home/dullfire/.dropbox/command_socket is a socket" (and one other for iface_socket  ) Im not entirely certain what that means but dropbox still doesnt thinks its not accossiated with my account
[03:09] <dr_willis> May be a good idea to just rename the dropbox stuff and let dropbox remake them?
[03:10] <dr_willis> or just skip that one file. since it most likelyis special and used while dropbox is running
[03:11] <dr_willis> i need to learn more rsync. ;)
[03:22] <ai9371> 987
[03:22] <JakeR5555> HEEEELP MEEEE.. O GOD PLEASE!!
[03:23] <JakeR5555> ok guys.. god helped me
[03:23] <JakeR5555> problem solued
[03:23] <thiefy> help!   help!   (on a different computer) i just tried to install the drivers for a dell inspiron 1720 - it's wifi drivers.     the wired lan worked just fine... but now it doesn't even work.  it is a bcm4321 wifi card.  in synaptic, i installed the STA drivers as recommended.  now i have no wired or wireless working.
[03:24] <unix> JakeR5555 realy? :)) send him to me :)
[03:25] <JakeR5555> he is with us all the time
[03:26] <JakeR5555> i never had a problem with lan but i think the wifi is not provided by ubuntu
[03:26] <JakeR5555> so you are on your own with wifi
[03:26] <thiefy> ok, well, now i have no lan or wlan.
[03:26] <usr13> !b43 | thiefy
[03:26] <thiefy> how can i get the lan back at least?
[03:27] <dr_willis> weird thatinstall ing sta would break the wired network
[03:27] <usr13> thiefy: iwconfig  ?
[03:27] <thiefy> yep. i'm there usr13      it says this:                                   Systems installed from CDROM can add the install CD as a package source and install bcmwl-kernel-source using apt-get as above. However, if you want to do it manually then the instructions are as follows:
[03:27] <thiefy> Navigate the install media and install the packages listed below by double clicking OR install the packages consecutively from a Terminal (in the commands below the install media is mounted at /cdrom, but yours maybe different):
[03:28] <usr13> thiefy: If it is an update the broke it, just revert to previous kernel.
[03:28] <dr_willis> thiefy:  what release of ubuntu is this? and where did these drivers come from?
[03:28] <JakeR5555> can i tell ulimit to limit RAM for a specific program ?
[03:28] <cztkin3z> ubuntu软件中心，install 附加工具，
[03:28] <thiefy> it's mint, based off of 12.10 ubuntu.   the drivers came from synaptic
[03:29] <cztkin3z> O:-)
[03:29] <thiefy> an update didn't break it.  the computer freshly installed had no wifi listed when i did a  ifconfig
[03:29] <dr_willis> thiefy:  i would have to suggest going to  the mint channels then. Could be some odd quirk in how they have done the kernels or drivers
[03:29] <usr13> !mint | thebwt
[03:29] <lucenut_> Hi guys. I installed xubuntu on an HP Mini. No wireless.
[03:29] <thiefy> it has NOTHING to do with mint.
[03:29] <lucenut_> I plugged into the network, ran all the updates.
[03:29] <thiefy> it has EVERYTHING to do with debian/ubuntu
[03:29] <dr_willis> you cant prove it has nothing to do with mint changes.. and i have seen mint have very weird issues that are not in a normal ubuntu install.
[03:29] <lucenut_> then I went into "Additional Drivers" and there was a Broadcom Alternative driver. I checked that and restarted and unplugged the cable and still no wireless showed up.
[03:30] <thiefy> me too lucenut, then i installed the drivers, now not even my wired internet works.
[03:30] <usr13> lucenut_: lspci |grep ireless | pastebinit   #And show us resulting URL
[03:30] <JakeR5555> thiefy is strange that you went to mint because it include the wifi drivers but it broke your lan and wifi
[03:30] <JakeR5555> irony
[03:30] <cgkades> lucenut_: i'm on an hp mini right now
[03:30] <thiefy> i "went" to mint?
[03:30] <thiefy> i just hate unity.
[03:30] <JakeR5555> yes you said it's mint
[03:30] <smmsadrnezh> transmission-gtk does'nt work after installation of transmission-daemon. but web interface of transmission works correctly. Why?
[03:30] <usr13> thiefy: I find that hard to believe. See ifconfig
[03:30] <JakeR5555> ubuntu is different distro
[03:30] <dr_willis> theres alternative desktops if you dont want unity.
[03:30] <cgkades> lucenut_: i set up wireless a while ago, dont remember howm, but i know i used google to figure it out. the answer is out there
[03:31] <thiefy> i did a bloody ifconfig  it shows no wlan and no eth...
[03:31] <usr13> thiefy: ifconfig -a
[03:31] <JakeR5555> mint channel is dead.. nobdy talks there
[03:31] <dr_willis> thiefy:  then i would suggest using a live cd. see if wired works and see what module its using. and then figure out why that module is not loading or broken on your install
[03:31] <JakeR5555> scary to use mint if nobody will help you with it
[03:31] <dr_willis> the main mint channel is on a differnt irc server.
[03:31] <thiefy> ifconfig -a     ---- all it shows is the lo (the loopback)
[03:32] <dr_willis> No idea how active it is.
[03:32] <JakeR5555> dr_willis where ?
[03:32] <thiefy> jake, that is why i am asking in here. useless in the mint channel.
[03:32] <dr_willis> the !mint factoid said about 20 lines up
[03:32] <usr13> Announcement:  There are a number of Desktop Enviornments to choose from.
[03:32] <dr_willis> !mint
[03:32] <thiefy> i wasn't even going to say i am using mint, cause then the helpers just blame the fact that it's not vanilla ubuntu here.
[03:33] <dr_willis> thiefy:  and i have seen where mint does break things.  and Mint is supposed to include a lot of drivers that ubuntu dosent.
[03:33] <madprops> i wonder why they don't have the mint channel on freenode
[03:33] <usr13> thiefy: Well, that is a valid complaint
[03:33] <dr_willis> most of the arguments would point to  the conclusion  to 'not use mint'
[03:33] <madprops> mint's not bad
[03:33] <dr_willis> but the basic trouble shooting would still apply. determine the module. see why its not loading
[03:33] <lucenut_> usr13 I don't exactly know what that all was. I typed it into a terminal up to pastebinit and it says "You are trying to send an empty document" and it said
[03:34] <thiefy> ok, pretend i'm not using mint (or i can come back in a few days and tell people here i'm using straight ubuntu, and then ask again)    what can i do to get back to the way the OS comes for lan and wlan drivers?
[03:34] <dr_willis> but the basic trouble shooting would still apply. determine the module. see why its not loading  <<<<<<<<, thiefy
[03:34] <usr13> thiefy: You don't go to #suse for help with Ubuntu?  Right?
[03:34] <thiefy> mint bloody is ubuntu. geez. get over it.
[03:34] <smmsadrnezh> plz help me. transmission-gtk doesn't work (it doesn't find any peer to connect and everything stay in idle status) after installation of transmission-daemon but web interface of transmission works correctly. Why?
[03:34] <dr_willis> thiefy:  it definatly is not.. get over it.
[03:35] <usr13> lucenut_: lspci |pastebinit   #And show us resulting URL
[03:35] <thiefy> if the tread on my nike shoe fell off, i am pretty bloody sure the people at addias can glue it back on.
[03:35] <dr_willis> thiefy:  or they can say no..
[03:35] <thiefy> ok dr will. you be that way.  can someone else provide help?
[03:35] <dr_willis> they dont know what kind of rubber nike isusing.
[03:35] <thiefy> dr will doesn't seem to hae interest in helping.
[03:36] <usr13> thiefy: This is not footware
[03:36] <lucenut_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1554046
[03:36] <thiefy> holy shit.  can anyone help or not?
[03:36] <dr_willis> thiefy:  ive given you the basic thread for trouble shooting... determine the module.. try to load it/determine why its not loading
[03:36] <cgkades> thiefy: have you checked dmesg for errors or any other logs?
[03:36] <thiefy> no cgkades. how would i do that?
[03:37] <cgkades> thiefy: type dmesg in a terminal.. or better yet dmesg | less
[03:37] <dr_willis> 'dmesg' is a command you run. that provides information aboyt the system
[03:37] <thiefy> ok, what am i lookin fer in the dmesg?
[03:37] <lucenut_> When I greg ireless and it says empty document does that mean I have no wireless driver?
[03:38] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  what command are you using exactly?
[03:38] <usr13> thiefy: YOu can more-than-likely get your device working but your IRC support needs to come from  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:38] <cgkades> thiefy: something regarding the chipset of your network card, or about eth0 or eth1
[03:38] <vladimirsanchez> ??b43w
[03:38] <cgkades> thiefy: anything about errors and stuff :)
[03:38] <lucenut_> That's pretty cool that it sends my info to pastebin.
[03:39] <lucenut_> What else can I do?
[03:39] <cgkades> thiefy: also try lspci
[03:40] <lucenut_> It has a broadcom driver listed and I checked that.
[03:40] <cgkades> lucenut_: i forget how i enabled wireless on my hp mini, but i'm pretty sure it involved "HP mini wireless ubuntu" in a google search
[03:40] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  seems you have a 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[03:41] <usr13> !b43 | lucenut_
[03:42] <lucenut_> I googled and then downloaded and unpacked something that was supposed to be a driver for broadcom.
[03:42] <thiefy> this is what i get when i try to add drivers from the install cd.  (which is a usb key)   http://imgur.com/7nPmJH0           when i click the "using broadcom...."  bullet, and then hit apply, it just automatically goes back to the 'do not use this device bullet'  - the setting doesn't take.   what the hell?
[03:42] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  also this looks like some good info for specific issues  worth bookmarking and looking at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-sta-wireless-card-bcm43xx
[03:42] <bazhang> thiefy, thats MINT. it's not supported here
[03:43] <bazhang> !mintsupport | thiefy
[03:43] <thiefy> no it's not bazhang it's just a theme i installed.
[03:43] <thiefy> !supportmyproblem bazhang
[03:43] <bazhang> thiefy, dont ask for help here with MINT.
[03:43] <somsip> bazhang: 10:34 < thiefy> ok, pretend i'm not using mint (or i can come back in a few days and tell  people here i'm using straight ubuntu, and then ask again)
[03:43] <dr_willis> or go to  the proper mint support channel and ask today. ;)
[03:44] <dr_willis> or check the askubuntu site. theres dozens of hits on bcm stuff
[03:44] <thiefy> the 'proper' channel is useless and dead.
[03:44] <usr13> somsip: .. and you will more-than-likely get inacurate information.
[03:44] <bazhang> thiefy, thats not our issue. MINT is not supported here, so please stop asking.
[03:44] <thiefy> you guys like arguing more than helping.
[03:45] <somsip> usr13: I'm asking no questions here :)
[03:45] <cgkades> thiefy: do you have to enable propritary drivers anywhere?
[03:45] <Gerowen> In Unity, how do I edit the shortcut keys so the "Alt" key doesn't bring up the Unity menu?
[03:45] <JakeR5555> thiefy yes stay here
[03:45] <JakeR5555> you get much more help here.. i'm there and it's not good
[03:45] <dr_willis> Gerowen:  alt brings up the 'hud'
[03:46] <thiefy> hmm, cgkades it's a clean / fresh install.   i haven't touched anything like that.
[03:46] <dr_willis> Gerowen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[03:46] <cgkades> thiefy: i seem to remember having to enable that.. but i've done so man installations, i could be mistaken.. and that could have nothing to do with you issue. have you restarted? i would try that real quick
[03:46] <bazhang> cgkades, feel free to support him in mintsupport channel (ie not here)
[03:46] <dr_willis> JakeR5555:  so the mint channel on spotchat is dead also? ;)
[03:47] <Gerowen> dr_willis: Ah ok, I found the shortcut keys, I wasn't aware it was referred to as the HUD though, thanks!
[03:47] <vladimirsanchez> need help installing b43w
[03:47] <dr_willis> Gerowen:  check out the youtube videos on HUD - it has some neat features
[03:47] <usr13> We are very sorry that  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org  is not as active as this channel, but it is the support channel for mint.  It is what it is, and it's not our fault.
[03:47] <vladimirsanchez> where to find instructions..?
[03:47] <dr_willis> !b43
[03:47] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-sta-wireless-card-bcm43xx
[03:47] <Gerowen> dr_willis: Will have to do that, I just kept hitting it on accident when I was playing a video game or something, :P
[03:47] <dr_willis> Its BCM day today!
[03:48] <vladimirsanchez> nice, =p
[03:48] <vladimirsanchez> thx...
[03:48] <dr_willis> Im glad i reserached my wireless stuff and got ones that dont need any extra drivers
[03:48] <dr_willis> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:3072 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT3072 Wireless Adapter
[03:48] <dr_willis> best $12 i spent. ;p
[03:48] <vladimirsanchez> Return of the G4's
[03:48] <usr13> dr_willis: Good point.  Linux users are (or should be) wise shoppers.
[03:48] <lucenut_> Hey guys. This is all WAY over my head.
[03:49] <lucenut_> I used to have Ubuntu 11 on this thing and wifi worked.
[03:49] <usr13> dr_willis: ... makes things much simplier ...
[03:49] <lucenut_> But it was so slow barely useable.
[03:49] <dr_willis> usr13: added bonus - the usb dongle thats well supported in linux.. worked on my Linux Based Set-top-media player automatically. ;)
[03:49] <lucenut_> So my buddy said xubuntu would be better.
[03:49] <usr13> dr_willis: Yep.  I like stuff that just works.
[03:49] <lucenut_> I see my chipset here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:49] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  they all use the same core drivers.. Now changing to a newer version  may help
[03:49] <lucenut_> But the steps are incomprehensible to me.
[03:50] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  you do have a wired connection to use for a little while?
[03:50] <lucenut_> On that other page it said just to check that additional driver which I did.
[03:50] <lucenut_> Yes, it's plugged in now.
[03:50] <cgkades> lucenut_: what version of ubuntu are you on? i can see what i have installed i think
[03:51] <usr13> lucenut_: If you hook up to a wired connection to the interent and follow the instructions, it should work as expected.
[03:51] <lucenut_> I am chatting on another machine though.
[03:51] <lucenut_> Sadly I cannot figure out how to IRC on the ubuntu machine.
[03:51] <dr_willis>  That additional driver tool should let you download/install the needed packages..
[03:51] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  install xchat ;)
[03:51] <lucenut_> It is xubuntu 12.10
[03:52] <usr13> lucenut_: There is a section for 12.10
[03:52] <lucenut_> I have pidgin running and I added my irc name. It said I was "identified".
[03:52] <lucenut_> But then I don't know what to do to find #ubuntu
[03:52] <usr13> lucenut_: I use irssi  (for IRC).
[03:52] <cgkades> lucenut_: install weechat-curses
[03:52] <syntroPi> Any recommendations for syncml with Android?
[03:52] <cgkades> and use the terminal
[03:52] <JakeR5555> dr_willis chinese chip.. why do they always do more than top brands i can't understand it
[03:53] <usr13> syntroPi: Plug in a USB cord
[03:53] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> So back to W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)                              How Can I Fix this?
[03:53] <lucenut_> OK, on that askubuntu page it sirst says for 12.10 to check the additional driver which I did.
[03:54] <lucenut_> Will I have to unplug the cable to see if wireless is working?
[03:54] <lucenut_> I restarted without the cable in and still no wifi thing showed.
[03:55] <lucenut_> Then it says if that doesn't work to do synaptic?
[03:55] <lucenut_> I installed synaptic but have no idea how to use it.
[03:55] <cgkades> lucenut_: ifconfig -a gives you nothing?
[03:55] <usr13> lucenut_: synaptic is just a GUI front end for apt
[03:56] <dr_willis> You can have wireless and wired both connected
[03:56] <warz> hi all, is there still an internate-based installer iso? one that the installer grabs packages from the internet?
[03:56] <mysteriousdarren> ya well i used pidgin for a while, but xchat is where its at
[03:56] <lucenut_> I typed ifconfig -a and got a whole page full of stuff.
[03:57] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  you may want to disable the  Prtners repository either via the package-manager tools/gui or by editing the sources.list file
[03:57] <cgkades> lucenut_: try ifconfig eth0 and ifconfig eth1
[03:57] <usr13> syntroPi: There is also "FileExpert" if you have a wireless AP.
[03:57] <dr_willis> !netinstall | warz
[03:57] <lucenut_> Nothing about wireless though.
[03:57] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> where is the sources.listfile
[03:57] <somsip> warz: You maybe want the minimal install. Yes, it still exists
[03:57] <cgkades> lucenut_: my wireless is eth1
[03:57] <syntroPi> usr13 well that's just plain connection but which software would I use?
[03:58] <usr13> syntroPi: Software?  Software for what?
[03:58] <usr13> syntroPi: (What do you want to do?
[03:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> dr_willis where is the sources.list file
[03:58] <lucenut_> cgkades both show stuff about ethernet.
[03:58] <lucenut_> Can I send those to pastebin?
[03:58] <syntroPi> usr13 for syncing calendars events contacts and so on
[03:59] <usr13> syntroPi: You use gmail?
[03:59] <lucenut_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1554071
[03:59] <cgkades> lucenut_: sure. your mini only has 2 networking devices
[03:59] <cgkades> lucenut_: so one of those (like mine) is the wireless
[03:59] <usr13> syntroPi: (Android is Google.)
[03:59] <syntroPi> yes but dont want google servers
[04:00] <jdii> anyone here familiar with systemtap on ubuntu?
[04:00] <usr13> syntroPi: You don't want google?      I just use it as it is.  The calendar is there, the email is there, I can use them both on my PC or my phone, there is nothing to to configure, nothing to do.  I can transfer files back and forth.  What else do I need?
[04:04] <lucenut_> do
[04:05] <usr13> syntroPi: Not sure what you want to do but I've been using an android phone for several years, I'm here for you if you have any questions, (as well as [probably] many others).
[04:06] <cgkades> lucenut_: you're in xubuntu?
[04:06] <lucenut_> Crap, I see synaptic is installed, but I don't know how to open it.
[04:06] <DaemonicApathy> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: I wasn't paying attention to your problem, and I probably won't be much help. I just saw you ask where something is.
[04:06] <lucenut_> Yes, Xubuntu 12.10
[04:06] <redengin_> anyone running fglrx drivers?
[04:07] <zachcando> anyone running 12.10 32bit and having problems with flash video?
[04:07] <usr13> lucenut_: Alt-F2 synaptic
[04:07] <cgkades> lucenut_: i'm on ubuntu so i dont know what to do from here. but your card is working properly
[04:07] <lucenut_> OK, I have it running now. Is it going to help me?
[04:07] <cgkades> lucenut_: you just need to figure out how to configure it in xubuntu
[04:07] <lucenut_> Really?
[04:08] <lucenut_> Where would you start?
[04:08] <lucenut_> configuring it?
[04:09] <usr13> cgkades: Configure what?
[04:09] <Tex_Nick> !details | redengin & zachcando
[04:09] <lucenut_> He said my wireless card is working properly based on that pastebin.
[04:09] <cgkades> usr13: configure his working wireless card
[04:09] <lucenut_> But I have to "configure it"?
[04:10] <lucenut_> I'm on Xubuntu 12.10
[04:10] <cgkades> at this point my knowledge of debain based systems is fialing me
[04:10] <usr13> cgkades: O
[04:10] <cgkades> i know how to configure it in red hat :)
[04:10] <backupsguy> hi #ubuntu!
[04:10] <DaemonicApathy> Hi, backupsguy.
[04:10] <lucenut_> Ideas usr13?
[04:10] <zachcando> I try to play flash video in a web browser and it refuses to work. I've tried Chrome, Firefox, Chromium. All the same deal.
[04:10] <usr13> cgkades: Well, the process is more-than-likely similar
[04:10] <backupsguy> i know that http://serverfault.com/questions/102697/unix-user-alias isn't the best practice. but what's the alternative?
[04:11] <backupsguy> hi DaemonicApathy
[04:11] <cgkades> usr13: there is no /etc/sysconfig
[04:11] <usr13> backupsguy: ifconfig
[04:12] <backupsguy> usr13: ?
[04:12] <usr13> backupsguy: Or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:12] <dr_willis>  /etc/sysctl.conf  perhaps?
[04:12] <backupsguy> usr13: are you talking to someone else?
[04:12] <Tex_Nick> !flash | zachcando
[04:12] <usr13> cgkades: Yes, you are correct.
[04:12] <lucenut_> So cgkades does that mean I shouldn't be worrying about drivers in synaptic?
[04:12] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  synaptic and addational-drivers install the same stuff
[04:13] <lucenut_> OK
[04:13] <usr13> cgkades: /etc/network/interfaces
[04:13] <lucenut_> So if my wireless card is "working", what does it take to "configure" it?
[04:13] <cgkades> lucenut_: it looks just like my system. i just dont know how to have xubuntu edit your network stuff. in ubuntu i have an icon that i can click on to enable or disable wireless etc
[04:14] <zachcando> installed Gnash and flashinstall whatever from repo. Nothing works. Installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. No deal.
[04:14] <syntroPi> usr13, well i know i can exchange files via bluetooth, usb, wlan and even mobile network. But what i want to establish a local connection (usb, bluetooth or wlan) with evolution on ubuntu and there is syncevolution which uses syncml protocol to do that. Im just not sure which counterpart on the android phone is compatible with it (Synthesis SyncML is very expensive but may work, also there is FunV10 (former fundambol) and 4myPAL SyncML Clien
[04:14] <syntroPi> t ). My question would be if there are any experiences with those
[04:14] <cgkades> lucenut_: i would look in system settings some where.. i'm just not famialar with the XFCE enought to navagate blind
[04:14] <Tex_Nick> zachcando : if that doesn't help report back ... someone can probably help with specifics
[04:14] <lucenut_> In xubuntu settings there's a Network Connections. But nothing is under wireless.
[04:14] <backupsguy> so anyone?
[04:14] <backupsguy> i know that http://serverfault.com/questions/102697/unix-user-alias isn't the best practice. but what's the alternative?
[04:14] <usr13> cgkades: See man interfaces, (or http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/interfaces.5.html )
[04:14] <cgkades> lucenut_: and my only real laptop is getting warenty repaire, so i cant even boot a vm
[04:15] <lucenut_> Should I "Add" a wireless connection?
[04:15] <usr13> syntroPi: I don't use a PC based email client, I use gmail, (much simplier).
[04:15] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  sure why not. ;)
[04:16] <cgkades> lucenut_: yeah, what dr_willis said
[04:16] <usr13> syntroPi: I suggest you use gmail.
[04:16] <dr_willis> lucenut_:  i have a dozen wireless networks seen under my little Wirelress icon at the top right
[04:16] <zachcando> From my googling I came up with my proc doesn't support SSE2 in flash 11 but I installed a flash 10 version and still no dice.
[04:16] <syntroPi> usr13 i do use gmail but that wouldnt include contacts events and calendars
[04:17] <lucenut_> OK, adding the wireless connection worked!
[04:17] <usr13> syntroPi: On the contrary, it would
[04:17] <usr13> syntroPi: ... it does ...
[04:17] <dr_willis> I still wonder what all these 2wire#### things are here in the usa
[04:17] <lucenut_> Thanks a million.
[04:18] <cgkades> lucenut_: awesome
[04:18] <syntroPi> usr13 i know they provide contact sync over google server, but i dont want to ask anyone on my phonebook if they are ok with exporting their data to us google servers
[04:19] <Tex_Nick> zachcando : http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ ... what version of flash does that page show you are using
[04:19] <usr13> syntroPi: "phonebook"?
[04:19] <syntroPi> usr13 its just my preference to sync locally period. I know its possible but i never have done it with syncevolution
[04:20] <usr13> syntroPi: "contact sync over google server"?
[04:20] <usr13> syntroPi: I have no idea what you are talking about.
[04:20] <syntroPi> usr13 s/contact/contacts/g
[04:21] <usr13> ?
[04:21] <usr13> syntroPi: Can you elaborate?
[04:21] <zachcando> I'm on 10 but 10 and 11 give the same results
[04:22] <syntroPi> usr13 i am talking about my contacts in my phonebook of my android device, not my email contacts in gmail. those i only want to sync over a local connection with evolution. Same goes for events in androids calendar and notes in my android device
[04:23] <Tex_Nick> zachcando : what ubuntu distro are you using ... also what pc\
[04:23] <usr13> syntroPi:   Just use gmail contacts.  If you place a phone number on a gmail contact, it's there on your phone too.
[04:23] <syntroPi> usr13 i do know that, but i dont want that
[04:23] <usr13> syntroPi: And, again, I do not use evolution, the web based server works just fine. I suggest mail.google.com
[04:24] <usr13> syntroPi: I am telling you the best way to interact with your andorid
[04:25] <usr13> syntroPi: And;  The PC's OS is irrelevent
[04:25] <syntroPi> usr13 i tried all that and i know that this works flawlessly but i dont want google to have every bit of my social data.
[04:25] <usr13> syntroPi: Why not?
[04:25] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/6Saunms.jpg
[04:25] <dr_willis> They allready do have it all... ;P
[04:25] <dr_willis> Buahahahaha!
[04:26] <usr13> syntroPi:  Why does it matter?  Do you think ght google cares about your email and phone contacts?  Why would they?
[04:27] <syntroPi> usr13 because its not legal to give personal information away without permission and also i have no control over it anymore
[04:27] <usr13> *that not ght
[04:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how come icant sudo apt-get install fix404
[04:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> says pkg not found
[04:28] <usr13> syntroPi: Why do you not have crontrol over it?  And how is it not legal?  (What you do on the internet is public. Right?)
[04:28] <syntroPi> usr13 and yes if they would be asked eg by the cia for support they have to cooperate with them. I have nothing to hide, but also i dont want to silently work for them by gathering social network data
[04:28] <cgkades> anyone have a link to a site with good ubuntu themed backgrounds?
[04:29] <usr13> syntroPi: Ok. If you have nothing to hide, it doesn't matter.  (You are not silently working for anyone.)
[04:29] <usr13> syntroPi: I think you are being overly suspicious.
[04:30] <syntroPi> usr13 well idk what they are doing with my data, and i cant know for sure it is really deleted when i request them to do so. i cant even ensure that with encryption and such
[04:30] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how come I cant sudo apt-get install fix404 on ubuntu 11.10 (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab063.2 x86_64)
[04:30] <syntroPi> usr13  on the contrary im sure most ppl nowerdays are by far not suspicious enough.
[04:31] <syntroPi> i thought linux oriented ppl would be the last to argue about that
[04:31] <usr13> syntroPi:  If you are that parinoid, you do not need to be on the internet, (and certainly not on IRC).  ;)
[04:32] <Darthearon> you could run your own mail server
[04:32] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: probably because support for that os has been discontinued
[04:32] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it has?
[04:32] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> o.O
[04:32] <syntroPi> yes i intend to do that
[04:32] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: 12.04 is the newest LTS
[04:33] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> is their a way to update to that?
[04:33] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> without losing any files?
[04:33] <Rakko> Suddenly when I try to use apt-get install, it doesn't work. It says "404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]". I admit I'm still using 10.10; have the repositories for that been taken down finally?
[04:33] <usr13> syntroPi: You are making "a mountain out of a mole hill".  ;)
[04:33] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: you should have the option to do it. was 11.10 a LTS, or a regular release?
[04:33] <Darthearon> i have an ubuntu server in the cloud...gave it a domian name and now i proxy my traffic through it via ssh...im also paranoid (im in the military so i kinga have to be)
[04:33] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> not sure what LTS is
[04:33] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but reguler i believe
[04:34] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: LTS is long term support
[04:34] <usr13> syntroPi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mountain_out_of_a_molehill  (a bit of humor...)
[04:34] <syntroPi> usr13 and why would i reject internet alltogether when i have a choice which information i share with what ppl. google is almost omnipresent today and that should raise suspicions
[04:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> then i dont think so cgkades  so theres a way to update without losing any data?
[04:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do i go on doing that
[04:34] <Darthearon> Whats wrong with google?
[04:34] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[04:35] <usr13> syntroPi: Well, you are going to go a long way around the block to hide something that does not need to be hidden. (IMHO)
[04:35] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  i would suggest backing up imporntant data befor trying a upgrade
[04:35] <Darthearon> you could update ubuntu with "sudo apt-get upgrade && dist-upgrade"
[04:35] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> well
[04:35] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: i'm not sure the upgrade options for 11.10. you might want to try to post that question on the forum if no one here can answer you. I know there ARE ways to upgrade, but i'm not sure their restrictions. usualy the update manager asks you if youw ant to upgrade to a newer release
[04:35] <dr_willis> !11.10
[04:35] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: yeah.. what Darthearon said
[04:35] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> well its on a vps
[04:35] <dr_willis> 11.10 is not eol yet is it?
[04:35] <dr_willis> a VPS? egads. ;)
[04:36] <Darthearon> what is VPS?
[04:36] <usr13> dr_willis: no
[04:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> virtual private server
[04:36] <Darthearon> is that like vpn?
[04:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i can only see the virtual part of it not physcical
[04:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so i cant back it up
[04:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> kinda
[04:36] <dr_willis> theres ways to back upyour stuff. ;)
[04:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how
[04:36] <dr_willis> Now as for upgradeing it.. no idea
[04:36] <dr_willis> rsync the data to some local source
[04:36] <Darthearon> i agree with dr_willis there is also a way
[04:37] <syntroPi> usr13 but they cant combine all different identities i do use, and the phone numbers are very personal information which i dont want them to have. its nuff that they have all my email contacts.
[04:37] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how would i restore it if i were to lose my data?
[04:37] <usr13> 11.10 and 10.04 EOL is same date.
[04:37] <dr_willis> rsync it back....
[04:37] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what data exactly are you trying to get off? just /home/user data or configs and stuff?
[04:37] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> config's
[04:37] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> like eggdrop, znc
[04:37] <Darthearon> anyone here use slackware?
[04:38] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it may be beast, not to mess with it
[04:38] <cgkades> Darthearon: i have, but dont
[04:38] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> best *
[04:38] <Rakko> Have the package repositories for 10.10 been taken down finally?
[04:38] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: if it's that critical...
[04:38] <Rakko> (I don't know if they normally get taken down at all; it might be that something is just not working)
[04:39] <cgkades> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: can you apt-get install anything?
[04:39] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i can
[04:39] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> im just trying to fix an annoying glitch
[04:39] <dr_willis> !10.04
[04:39] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/trekcaptainusa-tw/znc/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[04:39] <Darthearon> why should i not use slackware cgkades?
[04:39] <dr_willis> so it will be going EOL for servers in 2015 ;)
[04:39] <Rakko> maybe that's the same problem I'm having, [_-S1L3NC3-_]
[04:39] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i think so Rakko
[04:39] <usr13> syntroPi: Have it your way, but what you will have is separate data, (the sim card or the phone's memory, and your PC).  Now if you want to intergrate that data, well, I don't know if there is any sort of path for that sort of thing, (because there are other ways, (via internet), that we use and so there is not much use for anything else.
[04:39] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ive tried to download pkg404
[04:39] <cgkades> Darthearon: never said you shouldn't. i guess i wasnt clear. i have used it, but i don't currently
[04:40] <dr_willis> !info pkg404
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> 1 sec
[04:40] <Rakko> dr_willis: does "supported until …" mean "packages available only until …"?
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> fix404
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> !info fix404
[04:40] <dr_willis> Rakko:  they get moved to a Archive server after that time
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> what?
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/get-rid-of-ppa-404-not-found-messages.html
[04:40] <dr_willis> !info fix404 lucid
[04:40] <Darthearon> also how to i message you on a private channel, ive done it before
[04:41] <redengin> anyone that can help me debug these radeon drivers?
[04:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> read that Rakko
[04:41] <usr13> syntroPi: You can just transfer the data files back and forth and save it, but, well, I just don't see the point when there is a much easier way.
[04:41] <Rakko> dr_willis: oh... so the 10.10 packages should have been archived months ago
[04:41] <Rakko> thanks, [_-S1L3NC3-_]
[04:41] <Darthearon> cgkades: i am currently using xfce on slackware and i love it, its very fast
[04:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Rakko f you get it to work tell me how
[04:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> if *
[04:42] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  that guide gives the exact commands to install that fix404 script.. could be its also 404  ;)
[04:42] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but it says pkg not found
[04:42] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> E:: Unable to locate package fix404
[04:42] <usr13> syntroPi: I'm not going to pursue another path for all this because what I have is very convienient and it works.  I think you should just quit being so parinoid.
[04:43] <BlackWeb> Is there a way to rename a HardDrive Label without formatting from the command line: Normally I'd do `mkfs.ext3 -v -L "Volume-Name"`  But Dont want to erase the HD
[04:43] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  may be better for your 'critical' server to remove ppa's you dont need by hand.. and not trust some script
[04:43] <Rakko> I think tune2fs, BlackWeb
[04:43] <Coty91> I guys and gals. I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 12.10 and my displays. I have 2 graphics cards one which is an onboard AMD gpu and the other which is Nvidia GTX 550. What I'd like to do is have both work together to power 3 monitors, however, if that isn't possible, then having just the Nvidia GPU enabled and the AMD gpu disabled through software would be great. I'd rather not disable the onboard graphics through the BIOS bec
[04:43] <Coty91> ause of my Windows setup.
[04:43] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  the Tune2fs command i Thought could change the label
[04:44] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but i  dont know what ppa's i need
[04:44] <usr13> BlackWeb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[04:44] <syntroPi> usr13 yes exporting/importing .vcf files can work for contacts but doing that manually is very annoying. I just want a local software path to do all those syncs automatically when i enter my homes wlan (as it were possible with old nokia phones for some decades)
[04:44] <Rakko> that script won't help, [_-S1L3NC3-_] ... it'll just remove any failing URLs
[04:44] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh
[04:44] <Darthearon> google it S1L3NC3
[04:44] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i have
[04:44] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> im thinkin of just ignoring it
[04:45] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  its sort of scary when you have ppa's enabled that you dont know you need..  just disable them and see what happens perhaps..  or go through each one and determine what ones you really need
[04:45] <BlackWeb> Alright Thanks Rakko dr_willis & usr13 I'll browse the Manual And see if I can Figure it out Thankx :)
[04:45] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[04:46] <usr13> syntroPi: I've helped to keep this conversation alive for some time now in the hope that someone else (out of the 1700 or so others on here), may have some other idea's for you.  Apparently that is not the case.
[04:46] <Darthearon> so what is this paranoid person so parinoid about?
[04:46] <Coty91> Anyone know of a way to disable my onboard gpu through software? I want to use my Nvidia GPU only since I haven't been able to find a way to run both at the sametime.
[04:46] <dr_willis> Hes paranoid about becoming paranoid. ;)
[04:47] <nuf0xx> o/
[04:47] <nuf0xx> my seagate 1TB external drive stopped being recognised after a reboot
[04:47] <usr13> ... not sure really ...
[04:47] <nuf0xx> is not listed in the output of lsusb
[04:47] <DarthEaron> isnt everyone?
[04:47] <nuf0xx> any help?
[04:47] <dr_willis> nuf0xx:  how about sudo blkid ?
[04:47] <nuf0xx> not listed there either
[04:47] <dr_willis> nuf0xx:  unplug/plug it back in perhaps.. monitor dmesg output for error messages
[04:48] <nuf0xx> dr_willis: what would the be the best command to do that?
[04:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> wait the fix404 will help
[04:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> 404  Not Found
[04:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i keep getting those
[04:49] <JamMyfacewithApp> hello
[04:49] <nuf0xx>  i'll try "dmesg | tail -20" and see how that works
[04:50] <usr13> syntroPi: In other words, what we android users have with gmail intergration is good enough and looks as though there is not much intrest in doing anything more, (or re-inventing the wheel).
[04:50] <JamMyfacewithApp> Is it true I can't us the Ubuntu windows installer to install ubuntu (dualboot) if I'm running Windows 8?
[04:50] <Coty91> Really could use some input on this, please. :) I need to know a way to either have both amd and nvidia gpus work together to power 3 monitors or just have the nvidia gpu be my primary gpu without altering the BIOS.
[04:50] <dr_willis> Coty91:  if you use the open soruced drivers for both.. they Might work together
[04:51] <Coty91> dr_willis: I've tried the open source drivers and it only detected my onboard graphics for some reason, which is odd to me.
[04:51] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  its worth learning how to remove the ppa's in question by hand.. youve spent more time trying to get a script going  then it would have for you to remove them by hand
[04:51] <usr13> Coty91: Is one on-board and the onter an add-on card?
[04:52] <Coty91> usr13: Yea
[04:52] <Coty91> I've tried blacklisting the drivers, too. No luck
[04:52] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ive removed all of them
[04:52] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> and same thing
[04:52] <usr13> Coty91: It's been my experience that most BIOS's just revert to the add-on when present.
[04:52] <JamMyfacewithApp>  Is it true I can't us the Ubuntu windows installer to install ubuntu (dualboot) if I'm running Windows 8?
[04:52] <syntroPi> usr13 google already did reinvent the wheel as all others did (MS exchange, apple webcal? caldav whats it called again?, Nokias SyncML (which is a standart imho) and so on and so forth. Its nice to have those choices, therefore i can prefer syncml
[04:53] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> in the /etc/apt/sources.list u mean?
[04:53] <Coty91> usr13: I have the onboard set as default in the BIOS because of my Windows install. Windows won't detect the onboard GPU if I don't.
[04:53] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  or in sources.list.d
[04:54] <usr13> Coty91: Sorry abotu the MS Windows problem, that is unfortunate.
[04:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nothing in sources.list.d
[04:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but I deleted everything in sources and same thing
[04:54] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  deleted what exactly?
[04:54] <Coty91> usr13: I wouldn't use it if I could
[04:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> all the deb files
[04:54] <nuf0xx> dr_willis: no messages there. the only thing that happens is the light goes on the drive
[04:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> and removing individual ones
[04:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ahich didnt help
[04:54] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  deleted what EXACTYLY....
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> 1 sec
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-updates main restricted universe
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric-security main restricted universe multiverse
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric partner
[04:55] <iml> they are list files
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oops
[04:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> sorry
[04:55] <dr_willis> nuf0xx:  id say test it on a differnt box.  and see if it works there.. could be its dead... or going dead
[04:55] <Coty91> usr13: So, do you know of a way where I could at least disable the onboard GPU or change my primary GPU in a configuration file?
[04:55] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  so you deleted all the lines from your /etc/apt/sources.list  file?
[04:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[04:56] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  and the file is blank?
[04:56] <nuf0xx> thanks
[04:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[04:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> then i did sudo apt-get update
[04:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> and same 404 errors
[04:56] <dfboneguru> i recently switched from windows, trying to retrieve things off my hdd backup. is there a way besides manually combing through all the .zips?
[04:56] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:   then you got a really screwed up system.  since it shouldent be updateing at all.
[04:57] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  and theres nothing at all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[04:57] <usr13> syntroPi: gmail is the most user-friendly so I use it.  If you have an android phone it is to your advantage to use gmail as is intended.
[04:57] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nothing inside but it does say its a directory
[04:57] <tinah> hello there, i installed realtek driver for my awus036h wireless card ( chip rtl8187 ) on my kernel 3.2 system (ubuntu 12.04), but now is working worse. Any info how make it work? or any info how to rollback the driver installation? thanks
[04:58] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it shows now
[04:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ill pastebin
[04:58] <dr_willis> how were you looking at it befor?
[04:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nano
[04:58] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://pastebin.com/YHjVcfVi
[04:58] <dr_willis> nano? you were using nano to look at a directory?
[04:59] <dr_willis> there ya go.. you have lots of ppa's still enabled
[04:59] <dr_willis> well 4 of them at least
[04:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:59] <dr_willis> I hope you backed up your original sources.list
[05:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> bac
[05:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i did
[05:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so how do i remove them
[05:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> if nano dont work
[05:02] <dr_willis> im not even sure HOW you would think nano would move files.. its a text editor.. not a file manager
[05:02] <jc__> I blacklisted rtl8180 while giving ndiswrapper a try (which didn't work), removed ndiswrapper, removed my blacklist entry and rebooted, but no rtl8180. How do I get it to load properly again?
[05:02] <dr_willis> move them to some 'ppa-disabled' directory
[05:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh were moving files lol
[05:03] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:03] <dr_willis> each ppa has its own file... yes..
[05:03] <dr_willis> move file = disable the ppa
[05:03] <dr_willis> you rarely touch the sources.list these days
[05:04] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:05] <Abhijit> hi.
[05:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> mv: cannot stat `trekcaptainusa-tw-znc-oneiric.list': No such file or directory
[05:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i keep getting this
[05:05] <Abhijit> is there any html hex color generator for linux?
[05:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Use AC11 Colors
[05:06] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> or ACll
[05:07] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Maybe the file does not exist.
[05:07] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> then why is it listed
[05:07] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how strange
[05:07] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: pwd
[05:08] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> root@Smokey:~# mv jammy-upstart_fix-880049-oneiric.list "/root/nonppa"
[05:08] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>  /root
[05:08] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: man mv
[05:08] <dr_willis> this is where it pays to know some bash fundamentals.. or use 'mc'
[05:09] <dr_willis> you did make the nonppa directory?
[05:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> mv exsists
[05:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[05:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hence "/root/nonppa"
[05:09] <dr_willis> you are using tab completion and proper paths to all the files and dirs?
[05:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yup
[05:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> is my syntax wrong ^ ?
[05:09] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: We don't know
[05:10] <dr_willis> i would think you are not.. if its saying its not existing. double check.. and i dont think you need quotes
[05:10] <dr_willis> mv foo bar
[05:10] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried wihtout quotes same response
[05:10] <dr_willis> and look at your command..
[05:10] <dr_willis> you are NOT using the full path to the file
[05:10] <dr_willis> how is it supposed to know where your trek* file is at?
[05:10] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: but if you are in another directory, you'll have to use full path, (or one that is relevant).
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thats what i did
[05:11] <dr_willis> what did you do exactly?
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i did mkdir nonppa
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> then i did
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> cd nonppa and pwd
[05:11] <dr_willis> so you are in the nonppa directory.. not /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> to show the dir then i cd -- and did mv filename to my direcotry
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i am not
[05:12] <dr_willis> pwd shows  where you are at right now.. so where are you at?
[05:12] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: If you pastebin a portion of the terminal so that we can see what you are doing, maybe we could troubleshoot.
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:12] <TheLordOfTime> [_-S1L3NC3-_], give us the output from pwd.
[05:12] <dr_willis> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whatever /root/whateverdir/
[05:12] <usr13> TheLordOfTime: He did, it said  /root
[05:12] <dr_willis> Note the use of the FULL path..
[05:12] <TheLordOfTime> usr13, missed it (aka lag)
[05:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://pastebin.com/tAe5QGcc
[05:13] <DarthEaron> what is pastebin?
[05:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> let me try sudo
[05:13] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  its the paths thats the critical bit.. not sudo. if you are root
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> well sudo didnt work anyway lol
[05:14] <dr_willis> and whats the FULL exact command line (with prompt) you are using
[05:15] <Inside> Heyo. I have ubuntu-minimal installed inside of a virtual box. I'd like to... make it so that the terminal window is much larger. Any... ideas on how to do that?
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> whats that mena
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> mean
[05:15] <dr_willis> root@Smokey:~# mv jammy-upstart_fix-880049-oneiric.list "/root/nonppa"
[05:15] <dr_willis> whats the exact line you were using....
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i dont get it
[05:16] <dr_willis> Notice in your line ypou pasted earlier --->  root@Smokey:~# mv jammy-upstart_fix-880049-oneiric.list "/root/nonppa"
[05:16] <dr_willis> your PATH is wrong. and you dont need the quotes
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how?
[05:16] <dr_willis> root@Smokey:~#     Shows you are in your HOME directory.
[05:16] <usr13> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/tAe5QGcc
[05:16] <dr_willis> see the ~ ?
[05:16] <dr_willis> :)
[05:17] <dr_willis> use the 'ls' command to look at what files are where you are at... if you dont see the file you want to move.. you must use a full proper path to it.
[05:17] <dr_willis> if this is all totally confuseing. I suggest spending 30 min reading some bash beginner guides.
[05:17] <dr_willis> !bash
[05:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> no i know..
[05:17] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i dont see what i did wrong
[05:18] <dr_willis> you were NOT in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:18] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: ls
[05:18] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh i need to be in the directory to move it
[05:18] <usr13> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: pwd
[05:18] <dr_willis> and you did not use the path to the file.
[05:18] <dr_willis> OR use the full path.. like we have been saying fopr the last 15 min....
[05:19] <dr_willis> makes sence. :)
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ooooo
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> didnt know there was a directory their
[05:19] <dr_willis> Huh?
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok done
[05:20] <MichaelP> Anyone know why when i turn pulseaudio-equalizer on. HDMI audio shuts off and switches to normal audio ?
[05:21] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so i have to do this for every single one?
[05:21] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thats not very intuitive
[05:21] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  or spend a few min and learn bash basics if you are going to admin a server over ssh...
[05:22] <dr_willis>  it took you 15 min to understand a basic 'path to the file'  fundamental.
[05:22] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> no
[05:22] <dr_willis> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* /root/whateverdir/
[05:22] <PIETRELLO> CIAO A TUTTI
[05:22] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it took me 15 min to notice that the packages were visable
[05:22] <dr_willis> file 'globing' aka: wild cards.. move all at one time
[05:22] <PIETRELLO> !LIST
[05:22] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:23] <dr_willis> darn pietrello left befor i could ask him why he lists every channel. ;P
[05:23] <lasers> He's looking for Ubuntu images to download.
[05:23] <dr_willis> lasers:  ;) thats what i do.. send them torrent files.
[05:24] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> well now nothing gets updated when i do apt-get update
[05:24] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how is this supposed to help?
[05:24] <lasers> dr_willis: Add the links to your IRC client's aliases. ;)
[05:24] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  YOU were the one that decided to remove all lines in your sources.list earlier. No one told you to do that.. I asked if you had a backup of that file.
[05:25] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i did
[05:25] <dr_willis> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  you have removed all your sources from everything..  so theres no sources to use. nothing to update.
[05:25] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nvm
[05:27] <iml> just do mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ~/nonppa/.
[05:27] <iml> copy-paste a list generated from here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[05:27] <iml> into /etc/apt/sources.list if it's empty
[05:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok thanks
[05:34] <rigved> hello everyone.
[05:34] <Tex_Nick> iml : interesting resource :)
[05:36] <chalcedony> where is System > Preferences in ubuntu 12.04 with unity, i'm  used to gnome?
[05:36] <histo> chalcedony: in the dash start typing settings
[05:36] <histo> chalcedony: or lauch gnome-control-center
[05:37] <rigved> does anyone know what will be the date for the Ubuntu Global Jam this year? will it be after the Beta1 release date or after the release of the final Beta? Schedule which I am referring to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[05:38] <chalcedony> histo, my husband doesn't know either. he can't speak, i'm stuck. tell me top or icon 2 or something?
[05:38] <redengin> anyone got a good place to start on troubleshooting why unity failed to start?
[05:39] <histo> chalcedony: press the windows key to open the dash... Or you can click on the ubuntu icon in the upper left.   Then you can start typing settings it will populate with matched items.
[05:39] <dr_willis> in unity - top right icon.  theres a menu item
[05:40] <histo> chalcedony: The other option is to press alt+F2 to open a run dialog. In there you can type gnome-control-center  and press enter.  Or look ^^^
[05:40] <histo> chalcedony: top right there is an icon to get to settings
[05:40] <dr_willis> or tap the alt key and start typint in the setting you want to change. it may show up
[05:40] <Zahy> hey guys
[05:41] <Meerkat> Hi
[05:41] <Zahy> Could anyone here help me out with Linux Mint or is this the wrong place to ask?
[05:42] <Bon-chan> lulz
[05:42] <Bon-chan> for ya
[05:42] <Bon-chan> gratz
[05:42] <Zahy> lol wat
[05:43] <Zahy> booooo
[05:44] <dr_willis> !mint
[05:45] <chalcedony> he keeps screaming 'where?" and "why?" ..
[05:45] <chalcedony> i'm so sorry
[05:49] <chalcedony> is there a diagram somewhere to his Ubuntu 12.04 screen?
[05:50] <chalcedony> i need graphics to show him
[05:54] <chalcedony> dr_willis, i'm trying to explain it to him, but is there something that says where things are?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Top Right Corner, click. down 3 menu items.. isent clear enough?
[05:55] <dr_willis> this is on 12.10 ;)
[05:55] <chalcedony> dr_jesus, his has the things on the left?
[05:55] <chalcedony> dr_willis, , his has the things on the left?
[05:56] <dr_willis> No idea what desktop hes using then.
[05:56] <dr_willis> 12.04 used unity by default and i though had the exact same icon at the top right
[05:57] <chalcedony> home, ubuntu software center, weather indicator..
[05:57] <dr_willis> you can click the Ubuntu Dash icon and type in 'system-settings' also
[05:57] <nuf0xx> o/
[05:57] <nuf0xx> getting lots of hangs on my wireless
[05:57] <dr_willis> the gear icon at the top right  - has access to several items also
[05:57] <nuf0xx> the card is a BCM4313 802.11b/g/n (brcmsmac)
[05:58] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : here is an image of the ubuntu unity "dash home" type system in the search box ... http://www.google.com/imgres?q=ubuntu+unity+system+preferences&start=124&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1251&bih=593&tbm=isch&tbnid=ykj5Z0gXQUo7cM:&imgrefurl=http://uxdesign.smashingmagazine.com/2012/12/04/fittss-law-and-user-experience/&docid=tScfd01mhldgYM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EGUtb1LeTOE/T5ajPHzYL1I/AAAAAAAAIrk/Gw8zWuozgm0/s1600/uni
[05:58] <Tex_Nick> ty2d-dash-home-lens-ubuntu12.04.png&w=1111&h=679&ei=Qtj8UOOfEM_9qQHQ3IHQDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=4&vpy=235&dur=5101&hovh=175&hovw=287&tx=149&ty=107&sig=105316197821190707724&page=7&tbnh=149&tbnw=221&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:34,s:100,i:106
[05:58] <FloodBot1> Tex_Nick: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <nuf0xx> is there a better driver?
[05:59] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : sorry didn't realize the link was so long ... you'll have to combint the two lines :(
[06:00] <nuf0xx> in software center > additional drvers   says "this device is not working"
[06:00] <chalcedony> Tex_Nick, thank you :)
[06:00] <chalcedony> he's never been there before
[06:00] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : hope it helps :-)
[06:02] <rico_> hey
[06:02] <atlef> ho
[06:02] <atlef> lets go
[06:02] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : here this is much better ... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EGUtb1LeTOE/T5ajPHzYL1I/AAAAAAAAIrk/Gw8zWuozgm0/s1600/unity2d-dash-home-lens-ubuntu12.04.png
[06:02] <atlef> :-)
[06:03] <rico_> hello
[06:03] <rico_> what up
[06:03] <chalcedony> nicer link Tex_Nick :)
[06:04] <chalcedony> there is so much i have to learn to be able to help him in 12.04
[06:05] <histo> chalcedony: why doesn't he learn it
[06:05] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : if you prefer Gnome Classic ... you can use that on 12.04
[06:08] <chalcedony> Tex_Nick, he has what he wants i just have to figure out how to help
[06:08] <dr_willis> !manual
[06:08] <chalcedony> Tex_Nick, he has no sound. going through steps with it, system > preferences > sound.. still nada
[06:10] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:10] <dr_willis> !sound
[06:10] <chalcedony> histo, he had a very severe stroke in 1999, miracle is that he can do it at all
[06:10] <dr_willis> If hes using HDMI out - ive had to twiddle with the pavucontrol tool also
[06:10] <histo> chalcedony: have him look at the manual
[06:10] <hhhzzzain> dr_willis, you are always here :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> hhhzzzain:  thats a nice way to say 'Man! dont you have a life!' ;)
[06:11] <hhhzzzain> dr_willis, thank you for your help.
[06:11] <Tex_Nick> lol
[06:11] <dr_willis> on my days off.. i sit at home and IRC.. when im at work.. i sit at work and IRC...
[06:11] <dr_willis> ;P
[06:12] <hhhzzzain> dr_willis, what I meant is that you are a dedicated helper, I visit weeks apart and I find you helping.
[06:12] <chalcedony> hehe
[06:12] <atlef> that is dedication
[06:12] <atlef> :-)
[06:14] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis is a legend ... one of the best :)
[06:14] <chalcedony> oh indeed!
[06:14] <chalcedony> histo, is rapidly developing too :)
[06:14] <sean_> hello
[06:14] <sean_> anyone here?
[06:14] <nuf0xx> in software center > additional divers  the proprietary driver installs but does no wireless
[06:15] <krishna> kunji, that's the first thing i tried dnsmasq isn't a service. it's launched by network manager. but restarting network-manager doesn't restart it
[06:15] <hhhzzzain> i have forgotten but is #ubuntu-offtopic the correct name of the official channel?
[06:15] <nuf0xx> i believe it is the bcmwl driver
[06:15] <hhhzzzain> sean, we are [he left already]
[06:16] <krishna> and i'm talking someone who isn't here..
[06:16] <hhhzzzain> i have finally switched to KDE today [don't judge a book by its cover]
[06:17] <Flannel> hhhzzzain: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic is the correct offtopic channel
[06:17] <chalcedony> hi hi Flannel :))
[06:17] <phunyguy> I am trying out autofs, is there any way to avoid the long hang that occurs on a network disconnect, mainly in nautilus?
[06:17] <Flannel> chalcedony: Howdy
[06:18] <chalcedony> he's looking at the manual
[06:18] <chalcedony> it's for 12.10.. if he does the upgrade would it break things?
[06:19] <iter> I like idling/helping in here
[06:19] <dr_willis> most of the manual should be identical chalcedony
[06:19] <iter> you can always learn something new
[06:19] <dr_willis> there might be a 12.04 manual also
[06:19] <dr_willis> Im actually suprprised the manual is updated for 12.10 ;)
[06:22] <Tex_Nick> chalcedony : this might seem lame, but youTube has some really good vids relating to all things linux, ubuntu, bash ... etc.
[06:22] <dr_willis> i also recall some Ubuntu training video web pages.. but havent looked at them in ages
[06:23] <Lofde_> this is so awesome i am on irc, using an android minipc running ubuntu (linaro image) on my tv,  using irssi terminal irc client, wifi tehtered to my verizon galaxy nexus phone :D.. technology has come so far
[06:23] <Rakko> l33t
[06:24] <phunyguy> l33t yet probably offtopic
[06:24] <iter> Lofde_: living in The Future kicks ass
[06:25] <Lofde_> iter :D
[06:25] <phunyguy> !language
[06:25] <phunyguy> !ot
[06:25] <iter> living in the future kicks donkey bottom
[06:25] <Lofde_> for ~$39 dollars these little pc's running ubuntu could be used in a lot of applications!
[06:26] <Lofde_> whats the terminal command to figure out which version of ubuntu this is running..
[06:26] <dr_willis> !version
[06:27] <Lofde_> eh its saying no lsb modules are avaiable distrubutor linaro 12.07, codename precise..
[06:27] <dr_willis> there ya go.
[06:28] <dr_willis> not a standard ubuntu sounds  like. ;)
[06:28] <FluxD> Hi, for the second time in 2 days, my ubuntu laptop suddently will lock up, then screen go blank and become unsuable. Doing a hard reboot fixes it. Any ideas?
[06:28] <shortstraw8> Has anyone successfully downloaded and installed dropbox on 12.04? If so how
[06:28] <Lofde_> nah i was trying to find out what the base ubuntu verison was.. they recomplied an extra kernel module i am guessing for the arm processor on this mini pc for it to work faster..
[06:29] <phunyguy> shortstraw8, a better question would be to tell us what error you get specifically
[06:29] <phunyguy> also-dropbox is in the repos.
[06:30] <shortstraw8> phunyguy, The command the give on the website says cannot be found and if I DL it it will not open. Not sure what is going on.
[06:30] <phunyguy> !info nautilus-dropbox | shortstraw8
[06:31] <Lofde_> The currently Ubuntu builds here are build using "armel", however the A10 supports armhf, which is said to be significantly faster.
[06:31] <phunyguy> shortstraw8, "sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox", or just search for it in software center
[06:32] <Rakko> does nautilus-dropbox work with things other than nautilus?
[06:33] <grendal-prime> is it me or is the default integrated vnc server that ships now ..blows.
[06:34] <shortstraw8> phunyguy, Thanks not sure what I did wrong but it worked that time
[06:34] <grendal-prime> considerably!
[06:34] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, I have no issues with it
[06:35] <Rakko> vnc sucks period
[06:35] <grendal-prime> ive tried a myriad of clients now none of them help the situation.  but if i log into these machines and run like x11vnc.  man they refresh snappy and everything
[06:36] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, can't disagree with you there, but I found, since I generally connect over the local network, I just disable encryption, and all is well.
[06:36] <phunyguy> (on the client end)
[06:36] <grendal-prime> rakko well ya..accept for x11vnc has alot of options you can speed and clean it up with...but i like the handy user side for my customers.
[06:37] <grendal-prime> they like..it
[06:37]  * Tex_Nick uses vnc on 12.10 to monitor security cams for a few customers ... no problems here
[06:37] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, are you asking how to fix it? or are you just complaining?
[06:37] <dr_willis> i never share the 'current' desktop - i always use stand alone/hidden vnc sessions
[06:37] <grendal-prime> ill tell you what they dont like and thats the mear idea that someone can jut be watching what they are doing and them not having the quasi belive they can adjust that.
[06:37] <Rakko> I should look into ways to optimize vnc
[06:37] <Rakko> I used to have some tricks but I lost them
[06:38] <Rakko> one thing I was able to do but can't figure out now was to use 256 shades of gray
[06:38] <grendal-prime> phunyguy im just wondering if there is some way of adjusting the current integrated servers performance
[06:38] <Rakko> didn't look as horrible as 256 colors but was faster than 16- or 24-bit color
[06:38] <SaidKLE> ...cause that's much better than 50...
[06:38] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, the server supports what the client tells it to support.  256 colors, 16 bit, 24 bit, jpeg compression or not, encrypted or not... etc
[06:39] <Lofde_> does lubuntu use openbox ?
[06:39] <grendal-prime> ooo i got a better idea..lets figure out the 50 shades of gray alternaitive lense on this thang!
[06:39] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, this is becoming offtopic.
[06:40] <grendal-prime> phunyguy   anyway...um ok, so maybe i try disabling encryption. the big problem i have is the refresh
[06:40] <grendal-prime> it just doesnt do it.
[06:40] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, that was an issue I was able to avoid with disabling encryption
[06:40] <dandaman> real men use 10.04
[06:40] <grendal-prime> ok..well that would make sence cause im pretty sure x11vnc is not using it.
[06:40] <Rakko> hehe
[06:40] <phunyguy> not sure if the issue is client or server side, but I am leaning towards client
[06:40] <Rakko> I still use 10.10
[06:40] <Rakko> I like the number
[06:41] <grendal-prime> no its server
[06:41] <phunyguy> grendal-prime, I wouldn't be so sure
[06:41] <grendal-prime> i can connect with remmina to both servers..and the out of the box integrated..blows.  but...the x11vnc works wonderful
[06:42] <phunyguy> like you said, x11vnc may not use encryption, thus disabling the client's ability to use it's own broken encryption.
[06:42] <grendal-prime> phunyguy ya well ive been trying every client i get my hands on and all the same results
[06:42] <phunyguy> fair enoug.
[06:42] <phunyguy> +h
[06:44] <grendal-prime> nope ..same issue
[06:44] <grendal-prime> hmm bummer
[06:44] <iony> hola
[06:44] <iony> hola??
[06:45] <grendal-prime> see ya?
[06:45] <Rakko> tony iony
[06:45] <iony> alguien de argentina??
[06:46] <hhhzzzain> iony, english, http://translate.google.com
[06:47] <grendal-prime> its actually amazing how much faster it is
[06:47] <Tex_Nick> grendal-prime : have you tried #ubuntu-server
[06:47] <hhhzzzain> iony, Yo no soy de Argentina
[06:47] <grendal-prime> its a desktop distro that im running the vnc server on
[06:48] <grendal-prime> but..hey ill give it a shot..thanks
[06:48] <Lofde_> a piece of software i need to install in ubuntu is on the mfgers website they have an ARM version for armel but not armhf ... would i have to compile it from source.. or do i need to contact the manfuature any suggestions
[06:48] <Tex_Nick> grendal-prime : i've seen some good discussion there in the past regarding vnc :)
[06:49] <elky> hhhzzzain, next time see if there is a loco team portal like http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ar
[06:49] <hhhzzzain> elky, i am not from argentina.
[06:50] <hhhzzzain> elky, i was responding to someone else by using online translation.
[06:50] <grendal-prime> thank you sir
[06:51] <Nerdshank> can someone help me installing ubuntu to dual boot with win8, so i dont have to fight with grub too much. and i dont have a back up win8 cd.
[06:51] <Lofde_> Nerdshank: drop windows 8 totally :P
[06:51] <Nerdshank> lol
[06:52] <Nerdshank> love to but cant
[06:52] <hhhzzzain> nerdshank, did you buy a new computer? with secure boot?
[06:52] <elky> hhhzzzain, i wasn't saying you are, i was giving you info on how to better help people next time
[06:52] <Nerdshank> i believe so
[06:53] <Nerdshank> win8 is god aweful
[06:53] <Tex_Nick> !uefi | Nerdshank
[06:53] <hhhzzzain> elky, ok.
[06:54] <Nerdshank> think wubi would work good?
[06:54] <islan> hey, can anyone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth?
[06:54] <hhhzzzain> nerdshank, i believe you can only install ubuntu 12.10 64 bit version with uefi secure boot with windows 8?
[06:55] <hhhzzzain> nerdshank, did you search online for "dual boot windows 8 ubuntu"?
[06:55] <Tex_Nick> Nerdshank : UEFI might be an issue for you ... and wubi is usually a poor choice
[06:55] <dwarder_> i have windows 7 64bit as a vmware host, which ubuntu (i386 or 64) should i install into vmware?
[06:56] <Nerdshank> little bit, but wasnt sure how different it was from win7
[06:56] <hhhzzzain> nerdshank, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088425
[06:57] <Nerdshank> lol really - "Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Trial and Error"
[06:57] <dwarder_> anyone?
[06:57] <iml> 64bit probably
[06:57] <Nerdshank> that made me laugh
[06:57] <Lofde_> dwarder_: i would use 64bit.
[06:58] <dwarder_> Lofde_: what logic behind that?
[06:58] <Lofde_> it would run both, but i would just use 64bit to keep it consistant..
[06:58] <dr_willis> i always use 64bit on my 64bit hardware
[06:59] <dr_willis> if you have a windows system without some sort of backup/restore cd... time to get or make a restore set...
[06:59] <hhhzzzain> dwarder, you can do run 32bit on it as well.
[06:59] <dr_willis> first thing to do on a new windows pc. ;)
[06:59] <dr_willis> after what always seems to be a 3 hr first time bootup..
[07:00] <dwarder_> hhhzzzain: i know i cat, i'm just knot sure which version i neeed
[07:00] <dwarder_> hhhzzzain: can* :)
[07:00] <Nerdshank> ya looks like it... but what gets me is on windows 7 machines they hve the product key somewhere on the pc... this pc does not so im scared if i mess it up
[07:00] <dwarder_> not*
[07:00] <hhhzzzain> dwarder, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1107448.html
[07:02] <hhhzzzain> nerdshank, search for tools that extract your product key.
[07:02] <dwarder_> hhhzzzain: thanks
[07:02] <dr_willis> or the Pc maker may have some tool allready ther to take care of it. ;) best to ask in #windows
[07:02] <randimiller> morning everyone
[07:02] <Rakko> magic jelly bean
[07:03] <dr_willis> On some new windows machines I get a new HD and use a ubuntu live cd to image the old HD to the new.. then keep the original HD safe after i swap it out with the clone.
[07:08] <dwarder_> in general is vmware better than vbox?
[07:08] <dwarder_> if i have vt-d vt-x support on my hardware
[07:08] <dwarder_> ?
[07:09] <hhhzzzain> dwarder, I do not have experience with that, anyone else?
[07:11] <dr_willis> vbox seems more popular.. but thats about all i know
[07:13] <DWSR> Are there any tutorials or guides available for configuring AD via LDAP on a Ubuntu server?
[07:13] <corenot> hi
[07:13] <corenot> allo allo zis is nighthawk, are you receiving me.
[07:14] <hhhzzzain> yes.
[07:14] <hhhzzzain> DWSR, don't know what those are.
[07:14] <hhhzzzain> so count me out.
[07:15] <corenot> Good  so what can i ask .....here??
[07:15] <islan> can anyone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth?
[07:15] <corenot> when will 13.04 come out.........any ideas??
[07:15] <vnc786> how do i remove/add shortcut to unity launcher through command ?
[07:15] <hhhzzzain> the ubuntu help channel.
[07:15] <corenot> ask AWAY
[07:15] <hhhzzzain> for offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:16] <corenot> im using gnome-classic ........no idea!!
[07:16] <atlef> corenot, april=04 2013=13 so what do you get
[07:16] <atlef> 13.04
[07:16] <vnc786> on ubuntu 12.04
[07:17] <corenot> thanks
[07:17] <atlef> np
[07:17] <dr_willis> corenot:  13.04 is the version and release date
[07:17] <islan> my bluetooth is behaving as if everything is okay, but when I try to scan it doesn't find anything.  `hcitool dev` returns a device and MAC.  when I try to run `sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 ' + MAC, it gives me  `Creating device failed [...] Page Timeout` error
[07:18] <corenot> stay with the graphical utility............are using laptop or dongle.....please state model
[07:18] <hhhzzzain> vnc786, do you know how to do it through gui?
[07:19] <islan> laptop, Dell 3520.  12.10 64-bit.
[07:19] <islan> I also put my bluetooth in discover mode, but my wife couldn't even discover my laptop from her Nexus 7
[07:21] <hhhzzzain> i am leaving to sleep, have fun, haha.
[07:21] <Syria> Hello! please tell me how can I burn mp3 discs!
[07:22] <corenot> burn the disc with graphical utility as you would in windows......can try and download k3b
[07:23] <dr_willis> Syria:  you mean create a CD Music cd from MP3 files?
[07:24] <Syria> dr_willis: Yes, Because I want to listen to it in the car!
[07:24] <dr_willis> k3b does a fine job. there may be other tools in the repos
[07:25] <vnc786> hhhzzzain: yes i have couple of users and i want to set all user unity launcher same ...
[07:25] <Tecan> ubuntu really whips the llamas ass
[07:25] <Syria> dr_willis:  everytime I run k3b it tells me that mp3 additions are avialable for download but when I install them nothing happens and when i close and re run the application I get the same message again.
[07:25] <islan> Tecan, it's the new winamp?
[07:25] <dr_willis> Syria:  ive not used it in ages.. so no idea on that. its worked for me in the past
[07:26] <dr_willis> Syria:  perhaps the askubuntu.com site may give a clue.
[07:26] <iml> try brasero
[07:26] <corenot> same here worked like a charm syria
[07:26] <iml> or gnomebaker
[07:26] <Tecan> islan even better its the new future of computing
[07:26] <skp1> brasero comes with ubuntu
[07:26] <Syria> corenot:  You mean k3b?
[07:26] <corenot> Syria: yes
[07:27] <islan> so does anybody know anything else I can check to make sure my bluetooth is working correctly?
[07:27] <Tecan> dmesg
[07:27] <Tecan> or wait
[07:27] <Tecan> try bluemon
[07:27] <Tecan> blueman
[07:27] <corenot> You can just try burning mp3's directly to disc with brasero as playback anywhere else would just pick it up.....not like iso or any format
[07:28] <islan> Tecan, got it
[07:28] <islan> what should I do with it?
[07:28] <islan> blueman isn't picking anything up either
[07:29] <Tecan> try /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[07:30] <Tecan> also make sure its in a usb 2 socket
[07:30] <zuumbi> Hi there Im having problem with my inbuilt webcam and the microfone, does anyone nows, waht vcan be done?
[07:30] <Tecan> and maybe its just the dongle
[07:30] <corenot> Me got a problem with Nvidia crappy drivers running compiz........does anyone have same problems.......
[07:30] <Tecan> try several
[07:31] <islan> is it normal for that to return "stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules: ..."?
[07:31] <islan> Tecan, it's onboard bluetooth
[07:31] <Syria> corenot: I have the libk3b6-extracodecs already installed but I can't find something like create a new mp3 project in k3b!
[07:31] <Tecan> try a dongle
[07:31] <islan> so I should just go out and buy a dongle?
[07:31] <dr_willis> Syria:  it would be create new audio cd.
[07:31] <Tecan> ebay
[07:32] <Tecan> pick one up for 2 - 4 bux
[07:32] <dr_willis> a mp3 cd - would be a normal data cd.
[07:32] <islan> that's kind of a shame, one of the requirements I had for picking out this laptop was that it needed to have bluetooth
[07:32] <islan> oh well
[07:32] <Syria> dr_willis:  A new audio CD has a limit which is 80 mins. and a data cd will not be played.
[07:32] <corenot> Syria: ++1 dr.willis.............you dont need codecs.
[07:32] <Tecan> that might not be the prob but try and see
[07:32] <iml> lot of cars play mp3cds fwiw
[07:33] <dr_willis> Syria:  My Car has a Hard drive. ;) and 2 usb ports for flash drives...
[07:33] <dr_willis> ;P
[07:33] <Tecan> my car has a big block
[07:33] <Syria> Lucky you :P
[07:33] <dr_willis> Syria:  if the car cant play mp3 files from a data cd.. then you use a 80 min audio cd...
[07:33] <youbuntour> Hi, got a security related question - what is the chance that someone who knows my IP could beak into a booted ubuntu live? I'm asking because still there could be personal data on my hard drive
[07:33] <corenot> so why not use flash drive in your car .............who uses cd.............My CAR has turntables and a dj studio!
[07:34] <Tecan> lol
[07:34] <dr_willis> My Car can rip the audio cd to the HD i belive.. ;) not tried it
[07:34] <Tecan> corenot you can pimp my ride anyday
[07:34] <DarthEaron> how did you power the computer?
[07:34] <corenot> Tecan : You Bet bro
[07:35] <corenot> read PS4 will have AMD APU
[07:36] <corenot> 6800k crossfire with 100GB blueray
[07:36] <corenot> :}}}}
[07:39] <youbuntour> I was wondering how secure a live boot actually is given that sudo doesn't ask for any password etc particularly when there's a hard drive which can be mounted and which stored valuable personal data
[07:39] <JugglerLKR> hi
[07:40] <JugglerLKR> any pptpd server guru here by chance?
[07:41] <corenot> im ftp guru nor pptpd nor dpptdp
[07:41] <corenot> Give me your IP youbuntour. I can check;))
[07:42] <youbuntour> corenot: currently it's not running :( is there a good way to check it?
[07:43] <corenot> what is not running. your carburettor or network??
[07:44] <Rakko> youbuntour: it's not secure
[07:45] <corenot> Nobody can break into your network......and why do care unless you got docs for napalm
[07:46] <vnc786> how do i remove/add shortcut to unity launcher through command line ? ubuntu 12.04
[07:47] <corenot> Never used Unity as much ....dont care either. If it works it works, why bother
[07:48] <Tecan> J̣̤̲̟͇̳͈̎̃̀͛̏́̀ͣ͘ͅy̛̬̭̮̲̱͔ͩ͘m̖̬̝̙̤̄͗̿̕m̼̗̟̞̬̥̿͛͘͜m̈́͛̎͋̇̏́̚͝҉͇͓̹̰̙̜̥̘̯,̗̫̙̥͉̭̭͉̋͠ ̥͎̤̱͇̇̾ͭͤ̾ͦͯ́̀ͅi̧̭̗̬ͪͥ̌ͯ̅ͦͥš͍̖͙͊̏̕ ̱̺͈̳͙̍ͯ̏̇ͦͩ̓͡t̬̦͍̟̫̫̘͉̃͗̽͊͆̓͗ͯ͡h̸͍ͩ̇̔͞e̮̻̙̘̭ͮ̎̎ͣ̆͛̅̒̾ͅr͎ͫͭ͗̐e̖̙̟̜̭͚͇̻ͨ̐͗̐ͥ͑̾͘ ̴͔͙͖̮̟̰͍̠̒͋̊̍̚̕͡a͓͕̦̹̟̰̯̔ͧ̾̿̋ͦp̫̭̞̲̒̍͐̊͊r͐
[07:48] <Tecan> ̖̭͔̥ͭ̕p̫̭̞̲̒̍͐̊͊r̖̭͔̥͐ͭ̕ơ̬̠͙̟͐̿̑ͣͪͨ̐͐b͉͙̭͛ͨ̎́̇̉̀͠l̶͎̥̺͍̬̊ͧ̐͞ḛ͑̓̌̅͌̓m̫͓͇̼̮͓͉̱̈̇͢͟͡?̞͕̭̥͛̾͋̀̐̑͊ͩ
[07:48] <IdleOne> !behelpful | corenot Tecan
[07:48] <iml> vnc786: /usr/share/applications
[07:48] <Tecan> i was testing something
[07:49] <IdleOne> Tecan: use #test instead
[07:49] <corenot> Sorry Ubottu got carried away..........Tecan that looks like binary hieroglyphs.
[07:49] <iml> or ~/.local/share/applications for the user
[07:50] <corenot> is there a channel where i can crack jokes??
[07:50] <lasers> #defocus, perhaps.
[07:50] <corenot> danke
[07:50] <corenot> #defocus
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> corenot: /j mein freund
[07:51] <corenot> wie gehts
[07:51] <aeon-ltd> corenot: gut danke, und du?
[07:51] <youbuntour> Rakko: do you know by chance to which extent it's not secure (whether some more sophisticated techniques are needed such as rootkits exploits or whether it's like an open door to invite anyone)
[07:52] <Rakko> Well I mean if sudo doesn't ask for a password, that's insecure obviously
[07:52] <corenot> sehr gut......i habe Deutsch gelernt.......i spreche ein bischen deutsch, aber nicht so gut.
[07:52] <youbuntour> corenot: I'm curious :)
[07:52] <Tex_Nick> !de
[07:53] <iml> youbuntour: it's because the default user on the livecd has no password, simple as that
[07:53] <IdleOne> off topic chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:53] <Rakko> but I'm not a security expert by any means
[07:53] <youbuntour> Rakko: np, thanks for help :)
[07:53] <corenot> Unless you have technical expertise its pointless. SElinux,nmap and ethereal can get you through......but you need to know c and python
[07:53] <spill00> hi.  I'm having trouble getting flash plugin working in firefox on ubuntu 10.04.4 .. I've been googlin for a while.  can anyone help? much thx
[07:54] <youbuntour> iml: does it mean someone can log into a live boot remotely and become root?
[07:54] <IdleOne> no
[07:54] <corenot> Sorry ubottu
[07:54] <corenot> youbuntour: NO
[07:55] <iml> I don't think ssh server is installed on the livecd
[07:55] <todd_> for the love of god... can somebody please freaking tell me how to open the configuration program for the Unity 12.10 window manager
[07:55] <corenot> its not that simple anymore. Routers handle all that multiplexing stuff. They know which kind of 2 way connection is real and phony
[07:55] <todd_> i just want to try turning on "focus follows mouse" like my textbook says to try
[07:57] <youbuntour> iml, corenot: ok, thanks :)
[07:57] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <todd_> anyone?
[07:58] <dr_willis> todd_:  that often dosent work very well with unity. saw the setting in some tweak tool/config somewhere... havent wanted that in years
[07:59] <todd_> arg... why does unix have to make everything so insanely difficult
[07:59] <dr_willis> todd_:  thats nothing to do with unix.
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> todd_: have you ever tried modifyig core parts of windows?
[07:59] <corenot> its linux not unix
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> todd_: believe me the openness is much better
[08:00] <todd_> so i need to go on a scavenger hunt for a tweak tool just to change a simple setting to turn on "focus follows mouse"
[08:00] <dr_willis> quick google search for 'unity focus follows mouse'  http://www.iloveubuntu.net/how-easily-enable-focus-follows-mouse-behavior-ubuntu-unsettings
[08:00] <dr_willis> took me 10 sec to find. ;)
[08:00] <corenot> Game programmers hate windows and are pushed to program for windows because of bread and butter. Linux is like sweet potato pie
[08:00] <IdleOne> todd_: install compizconfig-settings-manager and you should be able to enable that setting under the Unity plugin.
[08:01] <dr_willis> it may be in other tweaker tools/areas also
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> todd : see if this helps ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> corenot: not to derail much, but opengl wasn't so great a while ago. drivers for hardware in general sucked because there was no incentive to develop them.
[08:01] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse
[08:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:01] <todd_> I tried searching.. for over 30 minutes now, hence why I'm here.  I was just awestruck that no site said how to do it without required a litany of download/installation options
[08:01] <todd_> i will try that link you posted though
[08:02] <dr_willis> Err.. took me 20 sec to find iton google..
[08:02] <dr_willis> normally i check askubuntu.com first
[08:03] <dr_willis> I imagine you will be sick of it within 5 min.
[08:05] <todd_> Frustrated is more the proper term, never have I seen something so difficult to navigate and use
[08:05] <dr_willis> not sure what you are talking about.. but come back if you have another support question.
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> todd_: but you change everything....
[08:07] <tion> uber is out
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> *can
[08:08] <corenot> anyone for tea??
[08:08] <tion> were can i install them for E17
[08:08] <tion> were can i install themes for E17?
[08:09] <todd_> typing "sudo apt-get install unsettings" doesn't appear to work
[08:09] <todd_> just comes up with "unable to loacate package unsettings"
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> tion: ~/.e/themes/e/themes ~/.e/e/themes then you use the switcher
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> corenot : hey man, please thak the chit-chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:10] <tion> can i remove avahi deamon?
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> take*
[08:11] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/unsettings-a-comprehensive-tweaking-tool-for-unity  has a download link
[08:12] <gipzo> Hello. What is the best way to manage power in ubuntu server? I need to power on and power off at certain time. Now I'm using rtcwake and cron. But I have problems with electricity and pc starts too early sometimes...
[08:12] <nighthawknz> hello anyone alive?
[08:12] <tion> every time i browse all apps this crashes and i have to press f1
[08:12] <dr_willis> 1000+ people in here nighthawknz
[08:13] <deebo> how do i install some meta package to tell apps that java is already installed (by me)
[08:13] <deebo> i need to install libreoffice but it wants to install java + dependencies, and i really really really dont need them
[08:13] <tion> segv very bad :)
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> gipzo: wake on lan? then you wake via another pc
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> deebo: dependencies means you need them
[08:14] <gipzo> aeon-ltd: it's standalone server on the street
[08:14] <nighthawknz> anyone know how to add hyperv support to kernel
[08:14] <tion> can i ad bohdin linux repo to update e17?
[08:14] <gipzo> aeon-ltd: i have wake on power switched on, so sometimes it turns on at night
[08:14] <dr_willis> tion:  mixing in other disrto repos can cause big issues.  There may be E17 PPAs out there
[08:15] <deebo> aeon-ltd: yeah i know that, but i have already met the dependencies outside the package system, i dont want to install openjdk, i can't use it and don't want it
[08:15] <mokush> is there are way to still use the packages from getdeb/playdeb from somewhere else, now that the actual service is discontinued?