[21:24] <MaverickXero> john38: that's the easiest way to change the settings (and there are tons of them)
[21:24] <sipp11> jenda: is that keyring password or wifi one?
[21:25] <jenda> yes
[21:25] <john38> i can access System>Administration>Nvdia X Server
[21:25] <][-e-][> alguien habla español ?
[21:25] <][-e-][> speak spanish ?
[21:25] <chilicuil> !ees
[21:25] <DCGstudios> john38, same thing
[21:25] <chilicuil> !es
[21:25] <DCGstudios> john38, make sure u got both moniters plugged in when you log in though, or else it might not detect it.
[21:25] <jenda> sipp11: I'm newbie with linux, how can I save the keyring password?
[21:25] <Mathuin> Hrm.  Can't install Ubuntu 10.10 on my 4G Eee.  Complains about undefined video mode 314, and no matter what I enter, it won't work.
[21:26] <john38> hold on
[21:26] <][-e-][> thakns
[21:26] <despair> um, im not running ubuntu per say, running backtrack4r1, and ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd are not compiled as modules, dont know exactly.. but if u do menuconfig they are marked with * if u know what i mean..
[21:26] <nimbiotics> ho can i make volume control visible on panel?
[21:26] <Genscher> I really have to say that I am normally an Ubuntu fanboy ;) But the UI for the 10.10 netbook edition is quite...ahm..unattractive ;)
[21:26] <MaverickXero> DCGstudios, John38: I'm pretty sure there is a redetect displays button in that program
[21:26] <DCGstudios> despair, whats the module used for in bt?
[21:26] <sipp11> jenda: well keyring is I don't know why it's existed, but you can just use *blank* at first to not see it again.
[21:26] <DCGstudios> MaverickXero, good to know, wasnt aware of that.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Kevin147: in a command line, run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:27] <jenda> sipp11: where is possible to change keyring password?
[21:27] <Kevin147> ActionParsnip, okay
[21:27] <MaverickXero> DCGstudios: that's only if I remember right... the laptop I'm on now has an intel card :/
[21:27] <jenda> I will try to make it blank
[21:27] <FriGiNDesK> ActionParsnip: it died almost immediately on reboot. i disabled wireless and reenabled it, and this is my dmesg's http://paste.ubuntu.com/517670/
[21:28] <despair> got a usb 2.0 device that should be taken care of ehci-hcd, instead dmesg says it loads with ohcd_hcd
[21:28] <DCGstudios> MaverickXero, naw your definitely right, its in the X server display configuration section.
[21:28] <MaverickXero> Not to spam but just wondering if anybody who joined since I asked knows: I just updated my packages and the new JDK (I use Sun/Oracle's) came with VisualVM but it doesn't work since the "jdkhome" variable isn't set. What's the "right" way to set this in Ubuntu cause I don't wanna have to do this everytime I update the JDK
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> FriGiNDesK: ok remove the boot option and re-run the sudo update-grub  command to undo the change
[21:28] <sipp11> jenda: it's just like another layer of security; if you wanna change you can go to Accessories -> Password and Encryption Keys
[21:28] <DCGstudios> despair, so your booting BT4 from live USB right?
[21:29] <despair> no, its a hd installation, its a wireless usb stick
[21:29] <sipp11> jenda: click on password tab; Right click over Passwords: login; select "change password"
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> despair: backtrack isn't supported here
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | despair
[21:29] <DCGstudios> lol
[21:29] <DCGstudios> PM me when dispair
[21:29] <DCGstudios> then*
[21:30] <Kevin147> ActionParsnip: Ok, I did that. Now what?
[21:30] <SpaceMint> http://pastebin.com/x0HCyUwG  is a report from gparted's check function - was any data actually lost? I'm confused by the report
[21:30] <sipp11> jenda: if you change keyring passwd to the same as your account password, you won't get prompted for keyring.
[21:30] <john38> back
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Kevin147: search for the error you got in the pastebin to find guides. You could also submit a bug
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> sipp11: or make it a blank password
[21:31] <john38> Im at Nvidia X server settings GUI
[21:31] <sipp11> yeah
[21:32] <john38> How do i configure this to fix my problem
[21:32] <MaverickXero> john38: there should be a section with TV output settings, it should have resolution adjustments... I'm working from memory though
[21:32] <Kevin147> ActionParsnip, How exactly do I do that?
[21:33] <john38> MaverickXero, yeah the Display coniguration but the TV on goes up 1024*768
[21:33] <lindows> how is possible i copy a phpinfo / folder to /var/www and when i try localhost:port/phpinfo
[21:33] <lindows> i dont get nothing
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Kevin147: your error is:   device descriptor read/8, error -71
[21:33] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: disabled acpi, and put it on the main board instead of a daughter pci board, its worse now i cant even seem to connect
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Kevin147: you should also log a bug
[21:34] <Kevin147> ActionParsnip, ok
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: now you removed the option, you should reboot to use the original option
[21:34] <MiMe> I am using inkscape, but many of its shortucts are the same as compizconfig, is there any way to disable them while running inkscape?
[21:34] <MaverickXero> john38: 1024x768 is the max for non-HD TV connections, if stuff is getting cut off try a lower resolution
[21:34] <lindows> how is possible i copy a phpinfo / folder to /var/www and when i try localhost:port/phpinfo i dont get nothign!!!
[21:34] <john38> MaverickXero, lower resolution cuts it off more
[21:34] <john38> MaverickXero, i have a old TV (CRT)
[21:34] <john38> MaverickXero, not LCD
[21:35] <sipp11> lindows: is webserver running?
[21:35] <lindows> yes
[21:35] <lindows> i get phpmyadmin
[21:35] <lindows> and i get phpsysinfo
[21:35] <lindows> but this one not
[21:35] <MaverickXero> lindows: is phpmyadmin in /var/www
[21:35] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: whats the bath again..
[21:35] <FriGiN> path
[21:35] <lindows> nertil@Maverick:/var/www$ ls
[21:35] <lindows> info.php  phpinfo  phpMyAdmin  phpsysinfo
[21:36] <lindows> this two i get but phpinfo not
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: /etc/default/grub     you can use the cursors to see the old commands you ran
[21:36] <sipp11> lindows: what about permission for that phpinfo?
[21:36] <john38> MaverickXero, its still the same
[21:36] <MaverickXero> lindows: what does "ls -al /var/www" give you
[21:36] <MaverickXero> john38: hold up looking into this for u
[21:36] <john38> ok
[21:36] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: i was forgetting default.. thats why i wasnt seeing it.. im gettin used to *nix again after 15 years.
[21:37] <lindows> drwxrwx---  2 root nertil 4096 2010-04-30 19:03 phpinfo
[21:37] <lindows> drwxr-xr-x 13 root root   4096 2010-10-21 05:57 phpMyAdmin
[21:37] <lindows> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     21 2010-10-21 18:34 phpsysinfo -> /usr/share/phpsysi
[21:37] <voxyn> Hello i just installed ubuntu desktop on a computer but i wish to remove the ubuntu desktop since im only going to use it for the command line and through ssh how do i do this?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: it's all learning
[21:37] <guntbert> !pastebin | lindows
[21:37] <lindows> sorry
[21:37] <moes> helo
[21:37] <BEAST_MODE> ello
[21:37] <sipp11> lindows: your webserver doesn't have permission to read/execute this file I assume.
[21:37] <guntbert> lindows: and please take it easy on the <enter> key :-)
[21:38] <lindows> sipherdee how to fix the permision for the webserver ?
[21:38] <sipp11> lindows: try "chmod a+x /var/www/phpinfo"
[21:38] <xorwhy> Can I remove libgl1-mesa-dri, if I am using proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[21:39] <lindows> worked
[21:39] <xorwhy> Is there a way I can start my computer with the CPU at maximum speed? I don't like having to adjust the processor speed with the gnome panel every time.
[21:40] <MaverickXero> john38: is your screen setup as a dualview or a clone
[21:40] <ryann> is anyone here familiar with udev enough to walk me through a simple configuration?  i wish to have a specific external disk recognized and mounted as /backup
[21:40] <ryann> either by label, uuid.. whatever.
[21:40] <BEAST_MODE> oR
[21:40] <MaverickXero> john38: what I mean is do you have 2 desktops or do both screens show the same thing
[21:41] <Omni_Link> Can anyone help me with a keyboard problem? I cannot get the Down Arrow to repeat the move while being held down. Up Arrow does it w/o a problem And it works on KP(2).
[21:41] <aeon-ltd> ryann: not really a expert on this, but shouldn't you really be looking into fstab instead?
[21:41] <MaverickXero> xorgwhy: I'm pretty sure you still need mesa dri for compiz
[21:41] <john38> MaverickXero, well i only have the option of setting it to Twinview then clone
[21:41] <john38> MaverickXero,  or the right of, left of, below, above
[21:41] <ryann> not for removable media, aeon-ltd.
[21:42] <MaverickXero> john38: but right now is it showing you the same thing on both screens?
[21:43] <MaverickXero> ryann: fstab is what you want aeon-ltd is right
[21:43] <john38> MaverickXero, no i have it set to right of monitor
[21:43] <sms_> Does someone know of success stories updating iphone firmware on linux?
[21:43] <ryann> MaverickXero, how can it be?  fstab ignores the nofail mount option.
[21:43] <MaverickXero> john38: and when you move a window to it and maximize it it cuts off some?
[21:43] <iceroot> sms_: ##iphone
[21:43] <ryann> if the device is not connected at boot, the boot sequence stops and looks for user input
[21:43] <samy> hello world :)
[21:44] <n0a1ias> who wants to teach me how to install .deb files please?
[21:44] <earthmeLon> Yay.  Upgrading to 10.10 for that hot new kernel action
[21:44] <iceroot> n0a1ias: dpkg -i file.deb
[21:44] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: the dongle plugged directly into the mainboard acpi command removed and its working worse than it was b4..
[21:44] <earthmeLon> n0a1ias or double click the file :P
[21:44] <samy> lol easy to use ^
[21:44] <MaverickXero> ryann: if you put a device in fstab and it does not find it it does not stop for user input unless you set it to
[21:44] <Mike632T> dpkg -i package.deb
[21:44] <john38> MaverickXero, well resolution is on Auto when i use the fullscreen function for those live video feeds it only shows 3/4 of screen
[21:44] <n0a1ias> uhh, thats it/ ice799
[21:44] <xorwhy> I'd like to remove passwd, for security reasons. Will this have any affect on currently established passwords?
[21:44] <n0a1ias> iceroot
[21:44] <shazzr> Anyone tried to use a SMARTBoard 680 on Ubuntu 10.10? I have issues with getting the touchpad part of it to work.   GO NIGGER!!! Dr_Wi11is gian_ sebikul samy Technoviking Kaco mnoyce gnubuntu Shai-Tan_ zilla aleixosk gakkun message144 IRCRover DaZ PaulEycks jono ThePhysician xorwhy kanwarpreet richie Mike632T marjo_ honeypot v3nd3tta`` pickett hippychick kibble MiMe lindows m4dv0y Bit-iPhone shazzr FriGiN Wo-TaoYan sphenx
[21:45] <MaverickXero> ryann: put your fstab in pastebin
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: well te boot option and the system was as it was when you started
[21:45] <n0a1ias> iceroot, thats it? nothing else between opening up the terminal. and typing that?
[21:46] <iceroot> n0a1ias: you want to disable the user-password you mean?
[21:46] <Technoviking> oh freenode op:)
[21:46] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: yes however i put it directly to the mainboard instead of a daughter pci that i have usb 2.0 on..
[21:46] <earthmeLon> n0a1ias You have to cd to the dir you downloaded the file to
[21:46] <iceroot> xorwhy: put the output to pastebin, normally dpkg is not removing other packages
[21:46] <Mike632T> Since I get some mails forwarded to me as attachments I quite frequently want to drag an attached email to the inbox in Evolution but in 10.04 this doesn't seem to work, it  work on my Debian box - anyone else confirm that they also get this problem..?
[21:46] <earthmeLon> n0a1ias so, if you use ff you might have put it in /home/USERNAME/Downloads/
[21:46] <n0a1ias> what no...
[21:46] <john38> MaverickXero, do you know anything about panning?
[21:46] <n0a1ias> i just want to install a .deb
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: i'd try the usb2 card
[21:46] <MaverickXero> john38: ok but if you take a window (anything, try a web browser) and make it maximized on the tv is it cutting off
[21:46] <iceroot> n0a1ias: and i told you how
[21:47] <xorwhy> iceroot: It's not a big deal, I'm going to ignore that one. Thanks for offering your help though.
[21:47] <MaverickXero> john38: not really
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[21:47] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: thats where it was to begin with to get it higher up in the air for better reception
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: the USB drops for some reason
[21:47] <john38> MaverickXero, no im able to see whole thing
[21:47] <MaverickXero> john38: oh... then your tv is setup right, how big are the video feeds
[21:47] <n0a1ias> yea, i was asking if there was anything else to dype between opening the terminal and that, sometimes people leave out changing directorys and the like
[21:48] <john38> MaverickXero, how big?
[21:48] <MaverickXero> john38: yeh what resolution is the feed coming in at
[21:48] <ryann> MaverickXero: sure.  http://pastebin.com/4YTPJVfk
[21:48] <john38> MaverickXero, their normal size until i click fullscreen
[21:48] <earthmeLon> n0a1ias We have no idea of knowing where your file is.  You will need to cd to that dir or do something like dpkg -i /home/user/blah/blah/file.deb
[21:48] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: shouldnt i see the same kinda things happen with stuff like external hdds and such when plugged in? or does the pc automatically recover from the problem before i notice it just wireless wont
[21:48] <MaverickXero> john38: what program is displaying them
[21:48] <Mike632T> n0a1ias: filename need to be in the same directory or you can specify the full path to the deb file...
[21:49] <john38> MaverickXero, probably small box at center of screen
[21:49] <xorwhy> Is there any way to have my computer start with the processor running at maximum frequency?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: it seems to also affect drives too
[21:49] <iceroot> xorwhy: normally you dont want that
[21:49] <iceroot> xorwhy: you want dynamic stepping
[21:49] <john38> MaverickXero, i use diffrent feeds everyday this one is FLVZ
[21:49] <ryann> i was told to replace nofail with noauto, MaverickXero..
[21:49] <xorwhy> iceroot: I want full frequency when plugged in, and dynamic when on battery.
[21:50] <CkhiKuzad> Is it safe to format my other partition on this drive, which is on a lower SDA level than my current distro of ubuntu, and move my partition that i am using over?
[21:50] <FriGiN> last night when i couldnt get it online i watched a good 2+ hrs of tv/movies on my external hdd no loss of video
[21:50] <earthmeLon> xorwhy Do you mean that you want it to be able to run at maximum frequency?
[21:50] <n0a1ias> im getting an error
[21:50] <n0a1ias> http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=us
[21:50] <john38> anybody here know anything about panning on Nvidia
[21:50] <n0a1ias> dpkg: error processing google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (--install):
[21:50] <n0a1ias>  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)
[21:50] <n0a1ias> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:50] <n0a1ias>  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[21:50] <FloodBot4> n0a1ias: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <earthmeLon> xorwhy There are settings available for that in Power Management
[21:50] <n0a1ias> i didnt mean to send that link
[21:50] <iceroot> xorwhy: you can enable it in the energy settings, maybe you need the cpud kernel-modul
[21:50] <iceroot> n0a1ias: use the i386 version
[21:50] <xorwhy> earthmeLon: I understand the purpose of dynamic frequency scaling, but there is a delay. It simply does not up the CPU fast enough when it comes to graphics (compiz).
[21:50] <n0a1ias> there isnt one...
[21:51] <iceroot> n0a1ias: dpkg is telling you that you have i386, but you want to install amd64
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[21:51] <n0a1ias> thatlink that i didnt mean to send was to the download page
[21:51] <Mike632T> n0a1ias: you have the 64 bit version of the package - you machine needs the 32-bit version
[21:51] <iceroot> n0a1ias: of course there is i386
[21:51] <sipp11> anyone can guide me where to find info about how I should setup server? failover/backup and such. I always work in Xenserver, but I'm willing to learn anything.
[21:51] <MaverickXero> ryann: looks good to me, yeh noauto is what you want, but you're saying that makes it request user input if it's not there at boot?
[21:51] <ryann> MaverickXero: yes.
[21:51] <Mike632T> n0a1ias: user the fist option on the download page   '32 bit .deb (For Debian/Ubuntu)'
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> !backup | sipp11
[21:52] <ryann> MaverickXero: I want the server to boot properly if (for some reason) the attached device fails/disconnects
[21:52] <iceroot> n0a1ias: and use the ppa instead of the deb-file
[21:52] <n0a1ias> Mike632T, no, i have 6 gigs of RAM, don't assume stupidity.
[21:52] <iceroot> n0a1ias: dpkg --print-architectur will tell you i386
[21:52] <cicatrix1> iceroot: doesn't the chrome .deb install the PPA?
[21:52] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: rebooted again .. on the daughter board. lasted bout 5 mins. stil dies. nothing else usb connected but keyboard/mouse. is it pretty well hopeless?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: i'd log a bug
[21:53] <john38> anybody here know anything about panning or adjusting +0 +0 values on Nvidia
[21:53] <MaverickXero> john38: flvz seems to be a flash based player and that would be the problem... flash on linux has a hard time doing full screen on multi display setups, it thinks your tv is the same resolution as your monitor and that is the problem
[21:53] <ryann> and, if the device is reattached while the box is on, it should remount as /backup.. which is what udev handles.
[21:53] <iceroot> n0a1ias: sudo dpkg --print-architecture
[21:53] <Mike632T> n0a1ias:  'package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)' would suggest that even though you may have a 64bit system you are running the 32-bit version of ubuntu
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: 32bit + PAE can address 12Gb RAM
[21:53] <john38> MaverickXero, how do i work around that
[21:53] <MaverickXero> john38: either you can make your monitor resolution the same as your tv or just not use fullscreen
[21:53] <iceroot> n0a1ias: you can have a 64bit kernel and a 32bit package-system
[21:54] <sipp11> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:54] <iceroot> n0a1ias: or you have pae
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> cicatrix1: not the daily ppa ;)
[21:54] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: likely response time on that bug rept? cuz i have got to get my pc up and runnin faster than asap. and im thinking at this point the ONLY solution is to to ahead and reformat with win 7 as much as it pains me
[21:54] <MaverickXero> john38: sorry i know that's not the answer u want to hear...
[21:54] <john38> MaverickXero, the whole point of this was to eventually use fullscreen
[21:54] <cicatrix1> actionparsnip: ... heh
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: as long as it takes
[21:54] <john38> MaverickXero, you anything about panning or the +0+0 values
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: the commandi gave will install the daily build
[21:54] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: thats what i was afraid you'd say.. damn 7 it is. what a shame.
[21:55] <john38> MaverickXero, i saw something online about someone centering it doing that
[21:55] <nothingspecial> FriGiN: No shame in that, whatever works :)
[21:55] <cicatrix1> Do you think he wants the daily?  I doubt it
[21:55] <MaverickXero> john38: they won't help you... if you can maximize a browser window and see everything then panning adjustments won't help. the problem is with flash not your tv setup
[21:55] <n0a1ias> it says couldn't find package chromium-browser
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> cicatrix1: works great, plus it doesn't have google's tracking snag
[21:55] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. I have a problem where, if i run 'gnome-terminal --command screen' it opens screen with some environmentals that makes it not function right when it comes to colors, but if i open gnome-terminal first and then type 'screen' inside and hit return, it works fine. What is going on here, and how do i fix it? I'm on 10.10 btw
[21:56] <MaverickXero> ryann: understandable... what is the exact prompt it gives you when the drive is not attached on startup
[21:56] <nothingspecial> ChrisBuchholz: Do you have a .screenrc?
[21:57] <ChrisBuchholz> nothingspecial: yes indeed
[21:57] <john38> MaverickXero, so theres no way around this
[21:57] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, it says couldnt find package chromiom-browser
[21:57] <nothingspecial> ChrisBuchholz: Have a look at byobu, it simplifies things
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: did the ppa add ok?
[21:57] <MaverickXero> john38: sadly no, flash sucks (more) on linux
[21:57] <n0a1ias> yes
[21:57] <n0a1ias> i beleave
[21:57] <ChrisBuchholz> nothingspecial: people at #screen recommended me to install screen without it:D
[21:57] <john38> MaverickXero, when i go fullscreen its 3/4 of the screen then the top is black
[21:58] <nothingspecial> ChrisBuchholz: Well I recommend you try it ...... not that I know anything ;)
[21:58] <Mike632T> gg
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa     what is the output? use:   http://pastie.org   to give the output
[21:58] <ChrisBuchholz> nothingspecial: i will, but i bet i wont tell me why this 'bug' is happening
[21:58] <mulambo> hi, I cannot blacklist modules -> irda and smsc_ircc2 I put them into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf they will load anyway
[21:58] <ChrisBuchholz> ;)
[21:59] <nothingspecial> ChrisBuchholz: I don`t suppose it will :)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mulambo: did you add them prefixed with:   blacklist
[21:59] <john38> MaverickXero, how about if i was connected through D-Sub
[21:59] <john38> MaverickXero, like the flat panel
[21:59] <n0a1ias> http://pastie.org/1239152
[21:59] <mulambo> yes I did
[21:59] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, http://pastie.org/1239152
[21:59] <MrCraig> wifi is painfully unstable :-/
[21:59] <MaverickXero> john38: the problem is that 1 screen is higher resolution then the other, if you have 2 screens set at the same resolution you will be fine
[22:00] <john38> MaverickXero, how high do flat panels go?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: look at the command you ran, compared to what I said to run. You can copy and paste to the terminal you know
[22:00] <n0a1ias> thats what i did
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: I give the full command so you can copy and paste
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: add-apt-repsitory != add-apt-repository
[22:01] <john38> MaverickXero, i can see the monitor to 1024*758 like tv but it still wont work
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: (21:58:19) ActionParsnip: n0a1ias: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa
[22:01] <kevin_> I'm trying to add the medibuntu repository, but I keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/mB5DdXtJ
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: so, no, you didn't did you
[22:01] <MaverickXero> john38: so you set them both to 1024x768 and rebooted and it still cuts off?
[22:01] <n0a1ias> http://pastie.org/1239156
[22:01] <Buttons840> i'm trying to remember the command you use to change java to mean sun-java instead of open-java/
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: ok then run: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[22:02] <lindows> i like ubuntu maverick
[22:02] <john38> MaverickXero, all i have to do is click Apply that sets it but it still the same if not worse
[22:02] <MaverickXero> Buttons840: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[22:02] <n0a1ias> and then your command again?
[22:03] <MaverickXero> john38: but flash needs to reload it gets the resolution settings on startup
[22:03] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, i did that, then ran your command again, and got the same thing
[22:03] <Buttons840> MaverickXero: that's it, thanks
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: add this to /etc/hosts       <IP_ADDRESS> packages.medibuntu.org
[22:04] <tacomaster> has anyone heard of planeshift the mmo if so does anyone know if its safe to install?
[22:04] <john38> MaverickXero, whevever i reboot settings disappear
[22:04] <ftornell> question: have a wifi card (Dlink DWA140 that only works when I use "sudo rmmod rt2800usb") I have to do that every time I boot the computer. Is there anyway of removing that completely so I don't have to manually do the removal every single time?
[22:04] <john38> MaverickXero, i have to enable twinview again
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: then access software sources, click to add a repo and add: ppa:chromium-daily/ppa    to the system
[22:04] <MaverickXero> john38: you have to save settings to xorg config... there is a button for it
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: then try again
[22:04] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip,
[22:05] <john38> MaverickXero, i think if i was able to have high resolution on TV i could get whole picture
[22:05] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, ok 1 sec
[22:05] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: still getting the same problem after adding that
[22:05] <mulambo> ActionParsnip something is loading them obviously? http://pastebin.com/B5jXvCRH
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> ftornell: add the module name in /etc/modules
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> mulambo: loading what?
[22:06] <john38> MaverickXero, ok i just saved it I think
[22:06] <MaverickXero> Not to spam but just wondering if anybody who joined since I asked knows: I just updated my packages and the new JDK (I use Sun/Oracle's) came with VisualVM but it doesn't work since the "jdkhome" variable isn't set. What's the "right" way to set this in Ubuntu cause I don't wanna have to do this everytime I update the JDK
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: so if you run: dig packages.medibuntu.org    does it resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[22:06] <ftornell> ActionParsnip, add the module? i want to remove that module so my d-link works...they collide!
[22:06] <mulambo> ActionParsnip cannot blacklist modules -> irda and smsc_ircc2 I put them into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf they will load anyway
[22:06] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, it says i need the APT line
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> ftornell: then blacklist it in /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> mulambo: not sure then
[22:07] <ftornell> sweet, ill give it a try
[22:07] <john38> MaverickXero, now???
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
[22:08] <john38> MaverickXero, reboot?
[22:08] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: no, <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:08] <MaverickXero> john38: yes
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: thats why, its the wrong IP. are you sure you added the line in /etc/hosts   and did you save the file ok?
[22:09] <john38> MaverickXero, should i set them as clones or absolute
[22:09] <MaverickXero> john38: not clones unless that is what you want
[22:09] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: I do have it, http://pastebin.com/BThF42RP
[22:09] <john38> ok
[22:10] <n0a1ias> i tryed that, and then ran the command again, and i got an error saying Broken packages
[22:10] <ryann> MaverickXero.. the error was basically something like "disk is not ready.. press S to skip or M to manually repair"
[22:10] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, i tryed that, and then ran the command again, and i got an error saying broken packages
[22:11] <MEMEyou> why does the disk utility in ubuntu tell me i don't have enough components to start the raid?
[22:11] <coppro> Hello
[22:11] <ben_q> Hello, what does "Segmentation fault" mean and how can I work around it? I'm trying to mount rar-archives, some work, some don't
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: looks ok according to many sites
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> n0a1ias, if you have broken packages try running "sudo apt-get -f install" from a terminal to see if it fixes it
[22:11] <coppro> I am having trouble connecting to a PEAP network with network-manager
[22:12] <coppro> something keeps forcing the wireless card back to no ESSID when it attempts to connect
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> ben_q: you dont mount rar archives, you extract them
[22:12] <JoeCoolNetbook> How do I create a symlink in nautilus
[22:12] <JoeCoolNetbook> ?
[22:12] <ben_q> ActionParsnip, no, I want to mount them
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> ben_q: you can't, its not a block device
[22:12] <ben_q> ActionParsnip, I don't have space to extract tons of 8gb+ archives
[22:13] <john38> hahah it works
[22:13] <john38> MaverickXero, thanks
[22:13] <ben_q> ActionParsnip, but why does it work for some archives?
[22:13] <ben_q> mount.fuse works fine on some
[22:13] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: and when I run the commands to get medibuntu, it tries to connect to this: <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> ben_q: archives like what?
[22:13] <kevin_> idk whats wrong.
[22:13] <MaverickXero> john38: did it work?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: in the command you could change the name for the IP...
[22:14] <john38> MaverickXero, well now its centered perfectly
[22:14] <MaverickXero> ryann: i'm still looking into this it seems that it's an ubuntu specific quirk
[22:14] <john38> MaverickXero, i guess the saving then reboot
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ben_q: stupid windows may see an ISO as an archive and show an archive icon but thats only because winrar can extract ISO files. ISO files can be mounted as they are block devices
[22:14] <MEMEyou> mount doesn't require  'block device' to work
[22:14] <gian_> rc.undernet.org
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> MEMEyou: you can't mount a rar file
[22:15] <MEMEyou> i didn't say you culd, lol
[22:15] <john38> MaverickXero, ok let me understand this if i change resolution now on monitor to work firefox is still saved
[22:15] <gian_> #warez-divx
[22:15] <ryann> thank you MaverickXero
[22:15] <MEMEyou> ok you can mount a rar file, there i said it now
[22:15] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: when I do that it times out. T_T
[22:16] <MaverickXero> john38: only way to know is to try
[22:16] <john38> ok
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> MEMEyou, actually, no you can't mount a rar file...
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> kevin_: you may need to restart networking
[22:16] <LectricBill> I've found an apparent bug in VLAN operation during Meerkat operation.  I've reverted to Lucid, and all is well.  But I'd like to report the problem.  Advice please.
[22:16] <ben_q> ActionParsnip, read: I have mounted rar-archives already with mount.fuse, and it works on some, but not on all archives. same type, splittet rars, sfv-check is clean for all of them
[22:16] <spinningcompass> ZykoticK9: You're missing the point. ;)
[22:16] <shark360_> ciao a tutti
[22:16] <Mathuin> LectricBill: has a bug been submitted?
[22:16] <kevin_> ActionParsnip: will a reboot restart networking?
[22:16] <MEMEyou> anyway - anyone know why the disk utility won't start a degraded raid?
[22:16] <shark360_> hi all
[22:16] <shark360_> there are italians?
[22:17] <LectricBill> Mathuin, don't know where to look for the reports.  That's why I'm asking here.
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> !it | shark360_
[22:17] <MEMEyou> http://www.winmount.com/Mount_RAR.html
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> MEMEyou, lol - what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[22:18] <MaverickXero> ryann: since this is a server... do you have the gui installed (xorg and gnome/kde)
[22:18] <MEMEyou> what doesn't it?
[22:18] <ben_q> yah.. I'M wondering why I get advice for windows here °_°
[22:18] <MEMEyou> did u try using it?
[22:18] <Mathuin> LectricBill: I found some useful information at the first Google hit on "ubuntu bug report".
[22:19] <ben_q> no, I use mount and fuse to mount stuff on linux
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> LectricBill, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[22:19] <ben_q> and I like freeware
[22:19] <MEMEyou> mount and fuse arn't freeware
[22:20] <LectricBill> Mathuin, Yeah, I see that, but foolowing the trail leads to a list that omits meerkat
[22:20] <LectricBill> ZykoticK9, thanks, I'll take a look
[22:20] <ben_q> well, then i must be a damn pirat becaue I didn't pay for them :>
[22:20] <MEMEyou> i think you are confused with what freeware is
[22:21] <MaverickXero> ryann: you still there i think i have a fix
[22:21] <tyebud> Hola.  Has anyone had any success making uswsusp the default for suspend/hibernate in 10.04?
[22:22] <ryann> MaverickXero yes
[22:22] <ryann> i've been writing a shell script to workaround this for me
[22:22] <ben_q> tyebud, suspend works like a charm since lucid
[22:22] <ryann> the external disk is for an rsync script that's crontabbed.. so i added a few lines to check if the device is mounted, trying to mount if it is, and existing if it's not mounted/not found
[22:23] <MaverickXero> ryann: it seems this has been a bug for the past 4-5 releases but ubuntu ignores noauto unless you change a setting in system>preferences>removable drives and media>storage you want to disable mount removable media when inserted
[22:23] <tyebud> ben_q: Hmm.  I'm getting poor results on my eee.  I installed uswsusp and it works a ton better
[22:24] <ChogyDan> anyone know how I can install netbook remix without a clean install from the unr image?
[22:24] <MaverickXero> ryann: once you do that fstab will work like every other distro and not try and mount devices with noauto
[22:24] <Mathuin> ChogyDan: have you tried installing the ubuntu-netbook package?
[22:24] <ryann> MaverickXero: i think there's a miscommunication.
[22:24] <tyebud> I just can't figure out how to get power manager to recognize it.  I wouldn't be opposed to using another power manager..
[22:24] <ryann> fstab is ignoring the device if the device reads noauto
[22:25] <ryann> this is a headless server, by the way
[22:25] <ryann> fstab, however, was not ignoring the device if it had nofail
[22:25] <thomas> is the gtkmm channel still around?
[22:25] <ChogyDan> Mathuin: thanks! looking,   any suggestions on any of the rest of the ubuntu-netbook-* packages?
[22:25] <ben_q> well, again, does anyone have experience with mounting rar-archives under _ubuntu_ ?   I get segmentation faults on some archives
[22:25] <ryann> so there is no way for the drive to mount automatically via fstab at boot without the system still booting properly if the device is absent.
[22:25] <snail> on ubuntu i want to commandline script the conversion of a sequence of gifs into a PDF. what tools should I be looking at?
[22:25] <MaverickXero> ryann: use neither nofail nor noauto then
[22:26] <MaverickXero> ryann: just set the option to user
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> ryann, noauto in fstab = don't automatically mount
[22:26] <Diamondcite> snail: This might not be too much help, but you might have an easier time going from gif to .ps(postscript) first.
[22:26] <ryann> i understand that ZykoticK9.  thanks
[22:27] <MaverickXero> ryann: nofail is supposed to prompt you because it's not supposed to fail to mount... you just want it to mount if it's there so just use user
[22:27] <ryann> i want the disk to automatically mount, however fstab breaks during boot if a device listed in fstab is not present during the boot process
[22:27] <MaverickXero> ryann: it should only break during boot on nofail
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> ryann, your statement above is true
[22:28] <ryann> well, that's no good for a headless machine!
[22:28] <MaverickXero> ryann: you were saying it breaks with noauto... which it should not because noauto means it isn't trying to mount it, is that what is happening?
[22:28] <ryann> can't have it reboot for whatever reason and fail to come back up, waiting for a keypress!
[22:29] <Omni_Link> Can anyone help me with a keyboard problem? I cannot get the Down Arrow to repeat the move while being held down. Up Arrow does it w/o a problem And it works on KP(2).
[22:29] <opend> he2, test
[22:29] <ryann> MaverickXero: I'm sorry, no.  It is breaking on nofail.  The pastebin I sent you had noauto as previously suggested.
[22:29] <MaverickXero> ryann: have you tried just user as the option
[22:29] <opend> he2, test
[22:29] <opend> test
[22:29] <ryann> just changed && rebooting
[22:29] <MaverickXero> ryann: nofail was working the way it should, same with noauto, but I don't think you want either of these behaviors
[22:30] <ryann> MaverickXero: this is why I was trying to get udev working with the device, so that it would automatically mount when found.
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> ryann, what are you trying to do?  why is the device sometimes there and sometimes not?
[22:31] <ryann> ZykoticK9: in a perfect world. the device will always be plugged in and powered on.
[22:31] <MaverickXero> ryann: udev is configured through fstab so i'm not sure I understand what you mean
[22:31] <ryann> but the system is going to be 2000 miles away, and the world is not perfect ;)
[22:31] <MaverickXero> Zykotic9: it's an external backup for a server
[22:31] <ryann> MaverickXero: yes, the device now automatcailly mounted using user as the option
[22:31] <ryann> i will now unplug the device and reboot
[22:31] <MaverickXero> ryann: cool it should work
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> !tab > MaverickXero
[22:32] <bildirgecc> hi all!
[22:32] <MaverickXero> ZykoticK9: why did you send me a note about using tab?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> MaverickXero, cause you typed my NIC and incorrectly the first time
[22:33] <extor> which virtualization platform does ubuntu server usually like, xen? kvm? openvz? Which one is most associated with u-s?
[22:33] <bildirgecc> How to compress a directory as 7z format giving it password and level (ration) as zero (i mean to do store) on Ubuntu 10 from terminal ?
[22:34] <MaverickXero> ZykoticK9: oh sorry... yeh i know about the tab thing but I don't want a comma after the name and I don't feel like deleting it everytime, but thanks
[22:34] <MEMEyou> man 7za?
[22:34] <etherealite> Is there such a thing as a preconfigured `leet` desktop package with things like  irssi integration, tiling window manager, hardware monitors and the like so I can look like a guru whilest not  knowing sh*t and being a lazy *ss?
[22:34] <trojan_spike> lol
[22:34] <ionwind> hola
[22:34] <MaverickXero> extor: I use VirtualBox on my ubuntu netbook and it works great
[22:34] <zamnedix> so is there a limit to how many people  can be in an irc room? because i would think 1518 exceeded that limit.
[22:35] <extor> Im talking about ubuntu SERVER as in for production environments
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> zamnedix, i've seen Ubuntu channels over 2000 on release day - and it's OT for this channel ;)
[22:35] <Omni_Link> Can anyone help me with a keyboard problem? I cannot get the Down Arrow to repeat the move while being held down. Up Arrow does it w/o a problem And it works on Keypad(2)
[22:35] <Jordan_U> extor: kvm
[22:35] <zamnedix> wow.
[22:35] <ohir> etherealite: search the web for suitable .jpg and learn how to setup your wallpaper :>
[22:35] <bildirgecc> How to compress a directory as 7z format giving it password and level (ration) as zero (i mean to do store) on Ubuntu 10 from terminal ?
[22:35] <MEMEyou> ubuntu for a server?  you're fired
[22:35] <ryann> MaverickXero: with the user mount option, the boot process broke again.  The message reads:  The disk drive for /backup is not ready yet or not present.  Continue to wait; os press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery.
[22:35] <trojan_spike> >> gnomelook
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> extor, KVM does require your CPU to have virtualization support
[22:36] <extor> Wow so many pretty little heads responding to the question in here lawl
[22:36] <ionwind> alguien que hable español¿¿
[22:36] <etherealite> ohir hmmm, not sure if thats `l44t` enough.
[22:36] <adem> slm millet
[22:36] <Jordan_U> !es | ionwind
[22:37] <ionwind> ok gracias :)
[22:37] <snail> for the record: i solved my problem: i installed a2ps which delegated the job to imagemagick. installing a helper package was faster than figuring out the imagemagick options. i've seen this before.
[22:37] <MaverickXero> ryann: got it this time... make your options "defaults,errors=continue"
[22:37] <adem> turk yokmu arkadşlar
[22:38] <ftornell> guys, whats your opinion on ubuntu server 10.10? ( im from the windows world and only use linux for my desktops at home, but considering changing windows server 2008 R2 to ubuntu server 10.10 at home as well; storing documents, pictures, music, remoting from work...)
[22:38] <sde> Hi guys, i have a couple of Ubuntu LTS servers
[22:38] <sde> what's the best way to backup the wholeserver?
[22:38] <fooobar> hi im getting a notification for "disc might fail soon" due to smart values. problem is that that disc is in a raid 10 array. so how do i find which disc it is
[22:38] <Jordan_U> !turkish | adem
[22:39] <ryann> great, thanks MaverickXero.  rebooting now
[22:39] <adem> jordan sim
[22:39] <mobasher> sde=>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[22:39] <MaverickXero> Not to spam but just wondering if anybody who joined since I asked knows: I just updated my packages and the new JDK (I use Sun/Oracle's) came with VisualVM but it doesn't work since the "jdkhome" variable isn't set. What's the "right" way to set this in Ubuntu cause I don't wanna have to do this everytime I update the JDK
[22:39] <sde> thanks ill look
[22:40] <mobasher> ftornell=>> depends ...some like 10.04 some like 10.10..it's up to u
[22:40] <he2> hi
[22:40] <rahsputin> hi. i just installed Lucid LTS. On reboot, this message shows up ...[drm] nouveau 0000:01:0.0 GPU Lockup - Switching to software fbcon        i have a NV34 Geforce FX5200 GFX-Card
[22:40] <he2> i would like to change my login screen
[22:41] <he2> how can i do so?
[22:41] <ftornell> mobasher, any big difference there? 10.04 is LTS i suppose... only hosting documents, pics, movies, mp3s for the family members...
[22:41] <Aemaeth> he2, ubuntu-tweaks
[22:41] <Benkinooby> hi i have a strange problem. i can listen to music via a virtual terminal (unsing xmms2) but as soon as i startx i don't hear anything
[22:41] <he2> Aemaeth: just downlod and change?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> he2: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[22:42] <Aemaeth> he2, just about
[22:42] <furi> tried to ./configure and make music applet but it doesn't appear in the add to panel list. using 10.10.
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> he2, changing the GDM login screen, since GDM2 came out is non-trivial for sure.  Ohh! excited to read ActionParsnip's link ;)
[22:42] <he2> Aemaeth: i'm using 10.10
[22:42] <mobasher> ftornell=>> not much...same deal...depends on your hardware...if it can carry server otherwise both work just fine..i have both
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: you can change the wallpaper and the login box theme only, not a huge change
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> he2: its the same
[22:43] <Benkinooby> hi i have a strange problem. i can listen to music via a virtual terminal (unsing xmms2) but as soon as i startx i don't hear anything. i use 10.04
[22:43] <ryann> MaverickXero: unfortunately, same error.
[22:43] <seidos> Benkinooby, you don't hear anything in any sound applications?  or in xmms2 you don't hear anything?  my guess is that alsa is configured in terminal, and somehow pulseaudio might not be configured properly in gnome
[22:43] <he2> i used crunchbanfg statler till a few days and there was just an easy gui for changing
[22:43] <owner> well it's fixed.  ubuntu's disk utility seems to depend on "md" yet - ubuntu doesn't install md support in the kernel - wtf?  bad package management and kernel build, imho
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, I hadn't seen that link before, so i was hoping for more ;)
[22:43] <ilyak> j #iphonedev
[22:44] <ryann> MaverickXero: current fstab http://pastebin.com/amYS1phs
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: thats all I got,I just make the background and theme match my desktop theme
[22:44] <gsk_spurs> Hi, Anychance someone could help me with my Ubuntu install?  I'm trying to install 10.10 64bit (have the same issue on 32bit install though).  After a sucessful install, ubuntu won't boot, coming up with 'unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference.  The computer is a HP Touchsmart TM2 2050ea Laptop. Any Ideas?
[22:44] <seidos> Benkinooby, you can try running pulseaudio -k in cli or alt-f2 and then try xmms2?
[22:44] <izardstreet> sound playback super choppy
[22:44] <izardstreet> in vlc
[22:44] <izardstreet> why
[22:44] <MaverickXero> ryann: you've got me stumped... I guess at this point I would just do what you were doing and make a small script to run on startup and mount it without fstab
[22:44] <Benkinooby> seidos, ok, gimme a sec
[22:44] <ryann> so strange!
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> izardstreet: try a different player, is it the saame?
[22:45] <izardstreet> yes
[22:45] <izardstreet> movie player just crashed
[22:45] <izardstreet> this may have been because of an update
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> izardstreet: try it when the player completes
[22:45] <MaverickXero> ryann: def a ubuntu thing though... I'm an ex-gentoo user so there are a ton of things I find weird in this distro
[22:45] <pylix_> hey people
[22:46] <izardstreet> this is wierd now its working
[22:46] <pepo> hello people!
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, ooh it's all good!  we've discussed the various gdm customization options before ;)  we're on the same page, was just excited when i say a new link.  FYI thanks from the community for your "uninstall all apt installed flash versions and reinstall only the one" I've given it to a couple of people (with credit to you usually) with great success.
[22:46] <pepo> do you want somethind funy about Ubuntu Server 10.10?
[22:46] <MaverickXero> pepo: what's that
[22:46] <Benkinooby> seidos, oh, sorry, seems that i didn't express myself well. i typed 'startx' on ctrl-alt-f1, i listen to xmms2 music on ctrl-alt-f2 but on all ctrl-alt-f# i dont hear anything, if i am not logged in at that specific terminal. my fluxbox (started with startx) is on ctrl-alt-f5
[22:46] <Licuadora> Im getting this message in Terminal about firefox
[22:47] <Licuadora> Fontconfig warning: Directory/file mtime in the future. New fonts may not be detected
[22:47] <ryann> ok.  Thank you for the help though MaverickXero.   I have PostgreSQL 8.4 installed in my Ubuntu 9.10. I'd like to remove it at all. I've tried before, but it's still in the system =/
[22:47] <Licuadora> I was testing some LiveCDs, but when I restarted my monitor resolution was messed up
[22:47] <pepo> I have installed ubuntu server 10.10 on server. everything was ok. no errors. after reboot server was halted showing me parameters and hard drive. with no posibility to enter into BIOS
[22:47] <Benkinooby> seidos, after puseaudio everything is silent...
[22:48] <TiZ> Hi. gvfs-open is using Firefox to open FTP filesystems instead of Thunar like it should. It's opening SMB shares correctly, though. What do I do to fix this?
[22:48] <seidos> Benkinooby, so sound works fine in one tty, but another?  so if you start x from tty2 sounds works fine in X?  hmmm.  not sure.
[22:48] <adem> Let's Have Sex at hello ladies messenger<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:48] <adem> Let's Have Sex at hello ladies messenger<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:48] <pylix_> it's pretty crowded in here
[22:48] <Licuadora> Now when I try to fix it this happens
[22:48] <Licuadora> root@djiin:~# nvidia-xconfig
[22:48] <Licuadora> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[22:48] <Licuadora> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[22:48] <FloodBot4> Licuadora: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <pepo> I did it with a 160GB hard drive. decided to make it with another 2TB... the same problem
[22:49] <ftornell> If I want to set up a mailserver at home on ubuntu server, is it postfix or send mail or is there any other maybe lighter ones out there?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Licuadora: then restart x and it will be used
[22:49] <Benkinooby> seidos, no it works on every tty i am logged in at.
[22:49] <seidos> Benkinooby, i need to think more on it.  you can start pulseaudio again just by typing "pulseaudio" in cli or alt-f2
[22:49] <pepo> SO! whi cand tell something about it? :)
[22:49] <seidos> Benkinooby, i don't understand the problem/question.
[22:49] <Benkinooby> seidos, it says daemon allready running
[22:49] <Licuadora> ActionParsnip: can you tell me how to restart x?
[22:49] <Pylix> is anyone here free to help a nub?
[22:50] <Benkinooby> seidos, my problem is, that i only have soundn, when i switch to ctrl-alt-f2
[22:50] <mobasher> vuln=>> http://forums.enterprisedb.com/posts/list/1437.page
[22:50] <seidos> !ask | Pylix
[22:50] <Benkinooby> seidos, i dont have sound when i am on X
[22:50] <Licuadora> ActionParsnip: I have been restarting the system several tiems, and it keeps the same
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, use Pastebin for multi-line pastes, but your xconfig command was successful.  it's written the nvidia xorg.conf file - alt+sysrq+k will instantly restart X
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Licuadora: ALT+K+PrintScrn   or you can just reboot the OS
[22:50] <jduro> hey guys, I did upgrade-from-grub-legacy and my windows partition is not shown anymore. Is there a document or wiki that could help me to reactivate the windows partition?
[22:50] <Pylix> okay will do, let me just read the terms first
[22:50] <seidos> Benkinooby, ah, did you check volume levels in X?
[22:50] <mobasher> !grub2 | jduro
[22:50] <ftornell> postfix comes installed if choosing that one during the installation process? any major configurations that need to be done after?
[22:51] <Soraya> Hi Guys,is there a way to upgrade my Ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10 with out loosing any data ?
[22:51] <pepo> Hey! to dificult question? where is guru of ubuntu? :D
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> jduro: try: sudo update-grub    and it should add i
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> t
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !ask } pepo
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !ask | pepo
[22:51] <pepo> Soraya: don't do it
[22:51] <Benkinooby> seidos, what do you mean by that. i put everything on max in alsamixer
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> Soraya, "upgrading" saves the home folder by default.  Lucid 10.04 is LTS and by default won't upgrade to 10.10 - but i'm sure it's easy to change.
[22:52] <Benkinooby> seidos, i think it is a permission-thing
[22:52] <mobasher> Soraya=>> backup your data first..
[22:52] <Licuadora> ZykotiK9: please, can you tell me waht sysrq means?
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> Soraya, i don't personally do upgrades - or really recommend them
[22:52] <TiZ> Hi. gvfs-open is using Firefox to open FTP filesystems instead of Thunar like it should. It's opening SMB shares correctly, though. What do I do to fix this?
[22:52] <Soraya> im gona need a HD,thanks
[22:52] <jduro> ActionParsnip, it only says: Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-22-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[22:52] <Licuadora> ZykotiK9: I dont know what button is that
[22:52] <pepo> ok, I'll repeat :)
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, print screen usually
[22:52] <seidos> Benkinooby, try this in cli:  speaker-test -c2 -D hw:0,0 -t wav -l1
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> !tab > Licuadora
[22:53] <pepo> I have installed ubuntu server 10.10 on server. everything was ok. no errors. after reboot server was halted showing me parameters and hard drive. with no posibility to enter into BIOS. How to solve the problem?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> jduro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322781
[22:53] <Benkinooby> seidos, i if use X and type to an terminal emulator: alasmixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory. but on a tty it works
[22:53] <shane4ubuntu> Soraya, ZykoticK9  in the terminal update-manager -d
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> shane4ubuntu, that's for "development" releases!  not 10.10 i believe.
[22:53] <jduro> ActionParsnip, its actually windows XP
[22:53] <mobasher> pepo=>> your BIOS has nothing to do with ubuntu install..u should be able to get into
[22:53] <Soraya> shane4ubuntu: will that command update my ubuntu vertion
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> Soraya, not to the right one.
[22:54] <seidos> Benkinooby, maybe you should use locate alsamixer and run alsamixer using the full path
[22:54] <Benkinooby> $ speaker-test -c2 -D hw:0,0 -t wav -l1
[22:54] <Benkinooby> speaker-test 1.0.22
[22:54] <Benkinooby> Playback device is hw:0,0
[22:54] <Benkinooby> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
[22:54] <Benkinooby> WAV file(s)
[22:54] <FloodBot4> Benkinooby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <shane4ubuntu> Soraya, I'm with ZykoticK9 I usually don't do upgrades or recommend them either as they tend to be extra work
[22:54] <Benkinooby> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1401:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
 I'm not liing
[22:54] <Soraya> ok.thanks
[22:54] <shane4ubuntu> Soraya, I believe so, I think I did that on the laptop
[22:54] <seidos> !paste | Benkinooby
[22:54] <Licuadora> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[22:54] <mobasher> pepo...I'm sure..but try turning it off and then try it again
[22:54] <Benkinooby> sorry
[22:54] <Licuadora> oops
 I tryed with another hard drive. the same issue after ubuntu server 10.10 installed
[22:55] <Licuadora> It didnt wored
 I did everything
[22:55] <mobasher> pepo=>> u rather have a bios issue..not ubuntu
[22:55] <seidos> Benkinooby, so...no sound from speaker test?  and speaker test works fine in tty?  has your system always been like this?
 nope
[22:55] <mobasher> pepo=>> ubuntu never touces your bios
[22:55] <lucas_> just compiled the 2.6.36 kernel on maverick 64 bit. Now it shows 3.7 GB of memory instead of 3.9. Did I do something wrong?
[22:55] <mobasher> pepo=>> touches*
 It touches somethind in hard drive
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, hold them all down one after the other <alt><sysrq> then press <k>
 do you want to know how to solve problem? I can tell you :)
[22:56] <mobasher> pepo=>> yes it does the install on the HD not on the BIOS...u should be able to get into it...what are u running
[22:56] <shane4ubuntu> Soraya that being said, this time I updated the laptop (ATI drivers) pain, and am updating my desktop
[22:56] <shane4ubuntu> upgraded*
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> Licuadora, what version of ubuntu?  old one was <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[22:56] <Benkinooby> seidos, on. it worked fine all the time. i played around with gdm/xdm and stuff. i wanted to have a faster text-mode boot with console login to fire up fluxbox or gnome manually after login
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: we can't support self compiled kernels
[22:57] <Benkinooby> seidos, no speaker sond
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: i suggest you compile in PAE though
[22:57] <mobasher> pepo=>> if you know the answer to your issue then why bother to ask ?
[22:57] <TiZ> Okay, let me try going into my problem in a little more detail. I'm using Gigolo in XFCE to mount remote file systems, which was working great until now. When I double click a connected and mounted FTP filesystem, it opens in Firefox instead of Thunar. Gigolo is configured to use gvfs-open, and I can't really just put thunar in instead of that; Thunar doesn't yet support remote URIs on its own. So what do I do to get gvfs-open using Thunar ins
[22:57] <TiZ> tead of Firefox?
 connect hard drive to ubuntu desktop, delete all partitions from hard drive. after connect hard drive to server and voila! you can enter in bios and server also show that no operating system is installed :)
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, PAE is redundant on 64bit
[22:57] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: thought that pae was intended for 32 bit architecture
[22:57] <seidos> Benkinooby, what about running: cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:58] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: PAE isn't needed  with a 64 bit kernel.
 the question if somebody meet the same problem and know why it happens?
[22:58] <mobasher> pepo=>> what does one do when they don't have a desktop in that case what do u suggest..?
[22:58] <lucas_> (not that I am not satisfied with the default one, just wanted to try out the new one) ;)
[22:58] <Benkinooby> seidos, no i have sound at tty2 and tty1. on both i am logged in. on tty3,4 no sound not logged in tty5 is muy fluxbox gui without sound
[22:58] <dany> hi eveyone
[22:59] <ddzidzius> seca
[22:59] <mobasher> !ask | dany
[22:59] <Benkinooby> seidos, if i run /usr/bin/alsamixer again same message : cannot open mixer, no such file or directory
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> !latest | lucas_
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: if the kernel only sees 3.7Gb its almost definately 32bit
[23:00] <coz_> !hello | dany
[23:00] <seidos> Benkinooby, maybe you should simplify your configuration.  how do things work from a fresh boot?
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, good point!
 I'm computers/servers guru 13 years... but damn with experiences.... this is first time when a desktop is halted intializing a hard drive with ubuntu server 10.10 installed. because with  ubuntu server 10.04 everything is ok.
[23:00] <lucas_> thanks for your replies!
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, actually isn't it low 3GB? for 32 limitation
[23:00] <Benkinooby>  seidos output of the command: 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel (new line) HDA Intel at 0xfc140000 irq 22
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: usually you'll get 3.4Gb ish
[23:01] <lucas_> another thing... I have an avermedia go usb based on an a833 chip and can't seem to make it work. Is there any module I have to compile?
[23:01] <Benkinooby> seidos, let me try. the funny thing is, i tried to make things simpler, get rid of all that stuff and have a fast boot, but atm everything get's worse. speed, stability, sound :/
[23:01] <mobasher> pepo=>> i'm sure u're very expereinced...but that's not the solution..computers bios has nothing to do with harddrive partitions and not being able to get into the bios with ubuntu installation
[23:01] <Pylix> okay I've recently installed xubuntu and i was hoping to get my desktop to look like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Xfce-4.4.png i have xfce but i'm new and don't know a thing about customizing my GUI. how would i go about this, and what are good resources for absolute beginners in understanding basic operations and how the OS works.
[23:01] <seidos> Benkinooby, well, there are three things that need to be configured for audio.  card driver, alsa, and pulseaudio.  the alsamixer no such file or directory problem is a mystery to me.  you can verify the file is there?
 if you do not have a desktop to connect this hard drive... try to find somebody with a desktop... because you cannot access BIOS
[23:02] <Omni_Link> Can anyone help me with a keyboard problem? I cannot get the Down Arrow to repeat the move while being held down. Up Arrow does it w/o a problem And it works on Keypad(2)
[23:02] <coz_> lucas_,   if no one can help right now ,,here...you might also want to try the ##linux channel
[23:02] <seidos> Benkinooby, well, yeah, because you are messing with things you don't understand :).  have you considered using supsend (s3) instead of rebooting so much?
[23:02] <Benkinooby> seidos, because of the message, it always speaks of "mixer"
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> seidos, fyi pulse actually uses alsa for lowlevel stuff - so you can skip configuring it really.  Benkinooby
[23:02] <seidos> Benkinooby, i'm sure if i tried what you are doing my system would be messed up :)
[23:02] <shane4ubuntu> what is the apt-get fix all line?  apt-get install --fix-all ??
[23:02] <Benkinooby> seidos, so i started mixer and see, i have to install it
[23:02] <lucas_> coz_: thanx!
[23:03] <xorwhy> I'm trying to create a launcher in the gnome panel that will run a command, and then run a second command. How can I run two separate commands in a single line?
[23:03] <steelrat> hello! is there a bug on launchpad about Places menu's icons loads slow? and should i create it if not?
[23:03] <mobasher> pepo=>> buddy...i have been with ubuntu for so long never heard such thing...and i have worked with tons of desktops...it always works..unless your bios is messed or you don't have a password..it always works
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> shane4ubuntu, "sudo apt-get -f install" should work
[23:03] <Benkinooby> seidos, installing csound-utils and some pedendcies
[23:03] <seidos> Benkinooby, i thought the mixer was running in one tty.
 what I'm trying to explain... for me it is very strange. it's imposible but it is...
[23:03] <shane4ubuntu> ZykoticK9, thanks that was it.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> xorwhy: create an alias or a bash script
[23:03] <dany> @ pylix try kde-look.org/ you might find what you are looking for there. It looks like it is a theme for KDE
[23:03] <xorwhy> ActionParsnip: Thanks that's a great idea!
[23:03] <mobasher> pepo=>> what kind of desktop you have ?? and what did you install on it?
[23:03] <dany> @ pylix sorry wrong one
[23:04] <seidos> Benkinooby, there should be packages that are necessary for sound to function.  alsa-base, alsa-utils, and pulseaudio.  not sure what else, if any.
[23:04] <Benkinooby> seidos, it is working. maybe this packages somehow integrates the acces of X to sound. didn't read packages description.
[23:04] <Pylix> roger
[23:04] <dany> @ pylix : i mean xfce-look.org/
[23:04] <notlistening> anyone else getting alsa-utils errors on 10.10?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> notlistening: none at all
[23:04] <coz_> notlistening,   what are you doing when you get this error?
[23:05] <pablo1964> hello
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> hi pablo1964
 it's a ASUS NCT-D motheboard with double xeon
[23:05] <pablo1964> hello
[23:05] <Benkinooby> seidos, i have all these packages. see the soudn is working perfectly in every tty i am logged in at
[23:05] <mobasher> pepo=>> were u ever able to get inot it before ?
[23:05] <notlistening> upgrading but with proposed updates
[23:06] <jduro> ActionParsnip, the guy in that forum thread is solving the problem by reinstalling windows. But why I should do that If i can access to the windows partition ???
[23:06] <mobasher> pepo=>> del key should work on it..
[23:06] <notlistening> coz_, ^^
[23:06] <seidos> Benkinooby, so...you're good?
[23:06] <Robinux> heya guys, i just installed lamp, and i wanna know where the php config files are
[23:06] <Robinux> and such files
[23:06] <Jordan_U> jduro: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[23:06] <Pylix> well that makes sense dan
 sorry english is not my native language, can you repeat pls? Thx
[23:07] <coz_> notlistening,  I see that... mm   out of curiosity.. if you do  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    are there packages related to sound offered for installation?
 Del key doesn't work
[23:07] <mobasher> pepo=>> delete key should work to get into the BIOS
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jduro: try: sudo update-grub2
[23:07] <Benkinooby> seidos, no. when i startx the X will be openden at tty5 but i am not logged in at that tty because X is there. so no sound. when i jump back to tty2 sound comes back again :/
[23:07] <jduro> Jordan_U, /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition:Windows:chain
 Doesn't work. It works with another hard drive or without it
[23:08] <coz_> pepo,  depending on the  motherboard  it could be  F2  or delete to get into bios  and ... in left field  maybe F3
[23:08] <jduro> ActionParsnip, i already tried it and it gives the same as update-grub
[23:08] <Benkinooby> seidos, to me it seems like my permissions are messed up somewhere so that X can not access/control sound or something. don't knw
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jduro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/453588
 if I delete all partitions from that hard drive, where ubuntu server 10.10 was installed I can enter into BIOS
[23:08] <Jordan_U> jduro: Ok, can you pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub" and the contents of your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
 No here is Del key
[23:08] <notlistening> coz_ 2 not fully installed or removed and the second is ubuntu-desktop which depends on alsa as i tried to remove it and stoped it before it killed my desktop
[23:08] <mobasher> pepo=>> that's quite odd
[23:09] <Robinux> ?
[23:09] <notlistening> coz_ no other packages at the moment
[23:09] <seidos> Benkinooby, don't know.  i will have to try to do some research.  i'm not sure how tty's affect audio.  i was under the impression that if sound is configured properly, audio should function in all ttys
[23:09] <dany> does anyone know the tomcat6 standard password and ligin for webapp manager? ?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> pepo: Have you checked for BIOS updates? This is certainly a firmware bug.
[23:09] <coz_> notlistening,  you tried to remove ubuntu-desktop/
[23:09] <coz_> notlistening, ??
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, FYI i have also experienced issues with sound and multiple virtual consoles/X sessions.  in fact the problem has gotten a lot worse in the last few versions of ?X/Pulse/audio/GDM/Gnome (not really sure where the problem comes from?).  good luck man.
[23:09] <notlistening> coz_ click happy, I stopped it befor eit processed it
[23:09] <mobasher> pepo=>> do have raid build up on the motherboard ?
[23:10] <coz_> notlistening,  oh it wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop  you mean?
 I installed a lot of operating systems trying to find an alternative to ubuntu server. I want to make a file server with ZFS, but finally decided to remain with ubuntu server + ZFS
[23:10] <jduro> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/6BvDnw5T
[23:10] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, it even was not a problem before. i think somewhere i did something wrong. i changed so mayn things. i don't think i can recover all steps i did.
[23:10] <coz_> notlistening,  that's odd...  what packages have you installed recently?
 this motheboard has only 2 SATA ports
[23:11] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, lol - BEEN THERE!
[23:11] <notlistening> coz_ yeah it did as i tried to remove and replace alsa
[23:11] <mobasher> pepo=>> how old is this motherboard
[23:11] <Jordan_U> jduro: Ther is a windows entry there. Can you reboot and confirm that you still see no windows option?
[23:11] <notlistening> coz_, dpkg: error processing alsa-utils (--configure): is the error i get
[23:11] <jduro> Jordan_U, yes :0 it now shows
[23:11] <Benkinooby> seidos, i also thought sound would not depend on tty ;)
 2005
[23:11] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, ?
[23:11] <seidos> Benkinooby, ah, so you're saying that sounds *only* works from a cli, and not in X?
[23:11] <Jordan_U> jduro: :)
[23:11] <jduro> ActionParsnip,  Jordan_U, well sorry for the trouble and thanks for the help
[23:11] <coz_> notlistening,   and you are trying to install alsa-utils via  apt .... yes?
[23:11] <mobasher> pepo=>> possibilly has to do with the raid configuration on the motherboard..maybe confuesed or something then
[23:12] <Jordan_U> jduro: np, and you're welcome.
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, so many times I can't "undo" all the steps I have done to something and broken it.
[23:12] <seidos> Benkinooby, are you trying to play audio from gnome or fluxbox?
 I think that guys from ubuntu changed something in OS partitioning
[23:12] <notlistening> coz_ yes
[23:12] <coz_> notlistening,  let me check here hold on
[23:12] <Benkinooby> seidos, yes. and on tty only after i logged in at that specific tty
[23:12] <mobasher> pepo=>> i have a old 2005 motherboard...that works fine ..never hung asus pd5ad2
[23:12] <Benkinooby> seidos, fluxbox. but for gnome same problem
[23:12] <jduro> Jordan_U, the only think i did was this -> apt-get install os-prober
[23:13] <Jordan_U> jduro: Ahh, that makes sense then. os-prober is what update-grub uses to detect other OSs.
 motheboard support RAID0 or RAID1... because it has 2 SATA ports, but I connected only one hard drive 160GB and after that tryed with another 2TB
[23:13] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, hm, i could your line a lyrics for a song ;P
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, if you're using fluxbox only - then pulse is not a factor.  consider this however, alsa doesn't share audio as well as pulse.
 I drunk a lot of coffee trying to understand understandable..... :)
[23:14] <seidos> Benkinooby, you might want to try asking in #alsa.  i can't think of anything.  processing fail.
[23:14] <jduro> Jordan_U, i did recently a dist-upgrade
[23:14] <coz_> notlistening,   ok this is a bit puzzling...  did you  manually "compile"   any packages related to sound  or  any packages at all ?
[23:14] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, i am sure i didnt mess with sound stuff.
[23:14] <seidos> Benkinooby, did you upgrade alsa or anything?
[23:14] <Benkinooby> seidos, hm, i think that will be best. thank you for your time and patience
 I'm sure that ubuntu server 10.10 has different idea of partitioning
[23:14] <mobasher> pepo=>> im quite sure it has to do with raid ...it's confused...
[23:14] <Benkinooby> seidos, no
[23:14] <notlistening> coz_ just standard install everything
[23:14]  * ZykoticK9 wonders if Pulse would actually still be running under fluxbox?
[23:15] <seidos> Benkinooby, multitask, they might take a little while to respond
[23:15] <Benkinooby> seidos, i was mainly working on gmd and x system settings
[23:15] <mobasher> pepo=>> your motherboard settings are set to raid or something..which maybe doing something funny
[23:15] <Benkinooby> ok
 I do not have the same hard drives. only 160GB and one 2TB
[23:15] <coz_> notlistening,  mm  very puzzling...  the  sudo apt-get update &7 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  wanting to  uninstall ubuntu-desktop is what is puzzling me
[23:15] <seidos> Benkinooby, have you tried to see if audio works firefox?
 set to Enhanced Mode S-ATA, No Raid, IDE detect 0 sec
[23:16] <mobasher> pepo=>> that's fine..but the raid settings on those motherboads have issues..my p5ad2 had a big problem installing 9.04 ubuntu but i was able to get into bios
[23:16] <notlistening> koz_ the ubuntu-desktop was my fault as i started to remove it but did not let it complete using apt
[23:16] <seidos> Benkinooby, i think firefox will try to bypass pulseaudio if it can't produce sound through it.  you might have to kill pulseaudio first for it to work though.
[23:16] <coz_> notlistening,  ok  since I cant get past that   I am going to suggest moving over to both #pulseaudio  and #alsa channels ... I am going to guess they have more troubleshooting options  than I can come up with
 how do you explain that this board works well with ubuntu server 10.04?
[23:16] <notlistening> coz_ it did not actually begin but apt has registered it as removed
[23:17] <coz_> notlistening,    mmm   did you try   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[23:17] <mobasher> pepo=>> anyway...had to qoute what can be done about it...from my expereince it's the bios settings quite sure about it
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> pepo, perhaps you should cross post your question to #ubuntu-server and see if someone there has any suggestions?
 I want to show you partitions of this hard drive
[23:18] <notlistening> koz_ yup can't it depends on alsa so the dependancy is broken and it fails
[23:18] <mobasher> pepo=>> sure put it on pastebin
[23:18] <mobasher> !pastebin | pepo
[23:19] <coz_> notlistening,  mm  ok  then for sure... go to #pulseaudio and #alsa channels
 Thanks
[23:19] <Cube``> i'm trying to find a "RIGHT ANGLE sas ---to---> 4x straight sata" CABLE
[23:19] <lucas_> I have managed to boot natively via grub2 on a wubi .disk file. Is it possible to install another distro like opensuse on a .disk file and boot from it?
[23:19] <Benkinooby> seidos, firefox doesnt work, vlc doesnt work
[23:19] <Jordan_U> pepo: Though it may be triggered by some sor of partitioning, a BIOS should not have any notion of partitioning and if any contents on the drive can prevent you from getting into the BIOS menu it is a firmware bug.
[23:19] <coz_> notlistening,  dont mean to sound like I am pushing you away...but if no one else has any suggestions  those 2 channels would be the ones I would immediately go to first
[23:19] <seidos> Benkinooby, did you try killing pulseaudio before trying firefox?
[23:20] <Sikth> If I want to change the name of about 35 files in a folder from filename.php to filename.html all at once, what would be the easiest way?
[23:20] <mobasher> Jordan_U=>> that's what we have been discussing..i think it's an old board and it has some BIOS setting which is not set properly
[23:20] <Buttons840> when dealing with tomcat6 there are environmental variables such as CATALINA_HOME , how can I determin what these are set to?  they don't appear to be global env vars, but the must be set somehow in order for the application to function?
[23:20] <Benkinooby> seidos, let me kill sound on the other tty too, one momente
 and with ubuntu server 10.04 it is not bug? :(
[23:21] <seidos> Benkinooby, sound works in a tty and in gnome over here, fyi
[23:21] <Pylix> is there open source rar archivers available or must i download a linux version of winra to extract these files?
[23:21] <mobasher> Jordan_U=>> i had those old ones..they were always a pain
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, try running "pasuspender firefox" to disable pulse for firefox and test if that works.
[23:21] <[thor]> Pylix: unrar is the free package, rar is the rarlabs package
[23:21] <coz_> notlistening,  if you find a solution  in either of those channels .. i would be interested in knowing what that was :)
[23:21] <lucas_> Pylix: there is rar and unrar on the repos
[23:22] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, it is not only FF it is the whole thing
[23:22] <lucas_> I have managed to boot natively via grub2 on a wubi .disk file. Is it possible to install another distro like opensuse on a .disk file and boot from it?
[23:22] <DanRose> Hey guys, when you do apt-get dist-update, how do you know what it will take you to? It's 6.06 at the moment...
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> Pylix, as [thor] mentioned there are two rar versions in ubuntu default repo
[23:22] <Jordan_U> pepo: Yes. Just because a bug can be triggered by a change in Ubuntu does not neccisarily mean that bug is in Ubuntu itslef. In this case, there is no way that the root cause of the bug could be Ubuntu.
[23:22] <dany> does anyone know where to set the username password in tomcat6?
[23:22] <Garandir> Will editing the BIOS according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 effect my windows install?
[23:23] <mobasher> dany=>> don't think tomcat needs a password
[23:23] <billy_> my wifi stops working when im at university
[23:23] <billy_> anyone know why this might me? the connection is fine it says, but i just cant connect to anything and have to keep reconnecting every 2 mins. works fine on xp. ubuntu works fine on the home network
[23:23] <hadees> anyone using an nvidia driver for vga on a tv? i have a small black bar on the botom of my screen and the top is cut off a bit, i think I need move the screen down a touch but i can't figure out how
[23:23] <dany> it asks for it when trying to conect to "manage webapp"
[23:23] <FriGiN> if i removed the hdd that had the windows partition on it.. and kept the linux partition hdd in there.. and its not booting can i just type update grub or whatever the command is to rebuild or do i have bigger problems?
[23:23] <mobasher> dany=>> try tomcat-users.xml   in the conf directory
[23:23] <DanRose> Hey guys, when you do apt-get dist-update, how do you know what it will take you to? It's 6.06 at the moment...
[23:24] <Sikth> billy, same problem here, it just shuts off and has to restart for me. I'm there now.
[23:24] <FriGiN> DanRose: !update
[23:24] <mobasher> dany=>> http://www.mkyong.com/tomcat/tomcat-default-administrator-password/
[23:24] <dany> ill try mobasher. thnx
[23:24] <Garandir> Will editing the BIOS according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 effect my windows install?
[23:24] <Benkinooby2> ZykoticK9: sorry, now i am in a text irc clinet
[23:24] <lucas_> DanRose: Well after 4 years I think it is a good idea to do a clean install
[23:24] <DanRose> !update
[23:24] <roxdragon> hi
[23:25] <FriGiN> arent all irc clients text? sorry..
[23:25] <FriGiN> had to ask
[23:25] <notlistening> MicrosoftChat was not only text ;)
[23:25] <Benkinooby2> seidos: sorry
[23:25] <dany> thank you mobasher. I forgot to add the role name
[23:25] <roxdragon> i have a nvidia geforce 9500gs ... but don't work on the ubuntu 10.10? :'( sigh
[23:25] <Benkinooby2> seidos: changed irc client so that i can chat in text mode
[23:25] <Benkinooby2> seidos: what was your last suggestion?
[23:26] <mobasher> dany=>> np
[23:26] <Garandir> Will editing the BIOS according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 effect my windows install?
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby2, i doubt you can get multiple X session's audio to work simultaneously man.  best of luck - but i can't help.
[23:26] <seidos> Benkinooby2, just to see if firefox audio would work.
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, try running "pasuspender firefox" to disable pulse for firefox and test if that works.
[23:27] <pepo> http://imagebin.org/119641
[23:27] <billy_> Sikth, then any ideas?
[23:27] <billy_> this is a major issue, its literally every 2 minutes, very frustrating!
[23:27] <Benkinooby2> seidos: does't work
[23:27] <Benkinooby2> :/
[23:27] <Garandir> Will editing the BIOS according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 effect my windows install?
[23:27] <seidos> Benkinooby2, is that what you are trying to do?  get audio to work in multiple x sessions?
[23:27] <mobasher> Garandir=>> try to put a posting there and see if you get a response..from those people...hard to say since you're doing a compile of bios
 http://imagebin.org/119641
[23:27] <DanRose> FriGiN thank you, but I only have CLI access, which is why I asked that specific question.
[23:28] <billy_> Sikth, to change the filenames, mv *.php *.html
[23:28] <Garandir> mobasher: The thread is locked and two years old.
 http://imagebin.org/119641
[23:28] <Sikth> billy, Not really sure. I'm working on it now. I'll let you know as soon as I find out though.
[23:28] <Benkinooby2> seidos: i want audio back on my gui. i dont care about sound on my tty
[23:28] <coz_> Garandir, good question...you may want to follow that first link on that page  to ask that question
[23:29] <FriGiN> DanRose: ko sorry. just a noobie helpin out best i know how.. which isnt best by any means, thought it'd give you a suggestion or two. tho ive been hearing ppl say even from 10.04 to 10.10 you should do reinstall.
[23:29] <Benkinooby2> seidos: i will reinstall gnome. this shoudl fix it.
[23:29] <mobasher> pepo=>> hd looks fine..but i still think its your bios..i donno my instincts tell me ..lol
[23:29] <seidos> Benkinooby2, may the ubuntu be with you
 How it's possible that installing ubuntu server 10.10 halt desktop at BIOS screen?
[23:29] <Garandir> coz_: They don't support Linux, so I can't ask.
[23:29] <mobasher> Garandir=>> try to put a new posting referencing the old one..
[23:30] <Benkinooby2> seidos: thx. i am a bit depressd that my intention to sepped up the system and to make it better ended in sh*t :P
[23:30] <Sikth> billy, that only works for single files apparently, it gives an error
[23:30] <coz_> Garandir,   oh boy...and  you have already tried to install ubuntu on this motherboard?
[23:30] <seidos> Benkinooby2, suspend (s3) is your friend
[23:30] <DanRose> reinstalls are wor Windows. IMAO.
 Ok... I will try to find a BIOS update and try again with ubuntu server 10.10, but this is.... I have no comments....
[23:30] <BlaDe^> can I reinstall with dkpg or apt ? I don't want to purge the package
[23:30] <BlaDe^> bdpkg*
[23:31] <Garandir> coz_: Yes, I'm trying to fix the ACPI problem they intentionally inserted for Linux users.
[23:31] <DanRose> Garandir, if you do what it's telling you to do, and don't mess it up; and if the instructions do what the instructions claim to; then it should not affect your windows install.
[23:31] <mobasher> pepo=>> try to go over the bios settings and their actions in detail rather doing upgrade..update wouldn't be a bad idea
[23:31] <Benkinooby2> seidos: i am used to suspend a lot, but i wanted to learn more about the bootprocess and wanted to optimize my X
[23:31] <Jordan_U> pepo: Some manufacturer's BIOSs do crazy things. I've made a USB stick that will cause most Apple firmware to hardlock when it's plugged in even if the primary boot device is not USB. This indicates a bug in Apple's firmware, as the description of your problem indicates a bug in your computer's firmware.
[23:32] <Benkinooby2> seidos: ok, thank you again for your help ZykoticK9
[23:32] <Benkinooby2> exit
[23:32] <DanRose> I'd be making backups of everything just in case, and get the correct flashing software for the BIOS (assuming/hoping that the affected code is part of that flashing, which you'd expect I guess) and take a flash-tool based backup of the BIOS as well as a backup of the file you edit in Linux.
[23:32] <Benkinooby2> quit
[23:32] <DanRose> Well
[23:32] <Benkinooby2> quit
[23:32] <Garandir> DanRose: I figured it would not, since it compiles on Linux.
[23:33] <DanRose> Actually I wouldn't, I'd just do it and live without windows if it broke, but *you* should do the backups.
[23:33] <coz_> Garandir,  oh man.... not sure what to say  other than you could try the changes mentioned there  at  some risk....  call and complain to the company... perhaps ask for bios update.... check for bios update... other than that I am at a loss... unless you try the #ubuntu-hardware channel  ... I believe they exist
 I made everything with bios, default setting and etc... nothing. BIOS halted after ubuntu server 10.10 installed. I want to mention again.... this problem happens only with version 10.10... not with all ubuntu families
[23:34] <tech2077> what kind of bios do you have
[23:34] <Pylix> i'm having trouble i extracted the unrar tgz file and in there is these hpp and cpp files but how would i go about installing it? i still can't extract rar files
[23:34] <Garandir> coz_: The motherboard isn't even listed ANYWHERE on the site. Not even on discontinued.
[23:34] <coz_> Garandir,   yikes
[23:34] <tech2077> Pylix, what are you trying to install
[23:34] <ikonia> pepo: the bios is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:34] <Pylix> unra
[23:34] <coz_> Garandir,   what is the motherboard  model number?
[23:34] <Pylix> unrar
[23:35] <tech2077> it's in the repos
[23:35] <Garandir> c51gu01.. That's sad I've memorizedit.
[23:35] <tech2077> you don't need to build from source
[23:35] <mobasher> pepo=>> here is the hardware supported on ubuntu..go thru there and see if can dig something out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[23:35] <tech2077> Pylix, sudo apt-get install unrar
[23:35] <dany> does anyone know a usenet binary upload application for ubuntu server 10.04  that is accessible over a network
[23:35] <ikonia> dany: what do you mean ?
[23:36] <dany> ikonia : Something like yenc powerpost
[23:36] <mobasher> dany=>> try ubuntu one
[23:36] <mobasher> !ubuntuone | dany
[23:36] <Jordan_U> pepo: Can you boot from CD while a hard drive with Ubuntu 10.10 is plugged in?
[23:36] <Pylix> is that some kinda command?
[23:36] <tech2077> Pylix, yes
[23:36] <dany> mobasher usenet and ubuntu one are two completely different things. Thank you for your input though
[23:36] <Benkinooby> seidos, ZykoticK9 muhahahahahahahahah, it works. after installing ubuntu-desktop
[23:36] <tech2077> open a terminal by pressing ctrl-alt-t
[23:37] <tech2077> then paste that in
[23:37] <ikonia> dany: most new clients can do uploads
[23:37] <tech2077> it installs unrar
[23:37] <mobasher> dany=>> didn't know the usenet so gave u an option :)
 How? it's impossible, because BIOS is halted...
[23:37] <ikonia> tech2077: install the unrar package then
[23:37] <manhunter> ubuntu is slow
[23:37] <ikonia> pepo: the bios is nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:37] <tech2077> ikonia, i'm helping him install
[23:37] <ikonia> pepo: if your bios is not working, you have a hardware problem
[23:37] <dany> but i will deffinatly check it out monasher. online storage is always welcome
[23:37] <manhunter> it takes time to load the desktop and panel
[23:37] <FriGiN> ok how does one go about killing grub off a drive that isnt in an ubuntu system anymroe
[23:38] <FriGiN> anymore
[23:38] <mobasher> pepo=>> believe me..everyone will debate you on that ..lol
[23:38] <ikonia> FriGiN: install a new boot loader over it
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, lol - thank you Pulse
[23:38] <dany> ikonia sabnzbdplus does not have that feature i think
[23:38] <dany> i have not seen it in the 2 years i am using it
[23:38] <Jordan_U> pepo: Try making the CD the first boot device, before you instert the 10.10 hard drive, then instert a liveCD and your 10.10 hard drive.
[23:38] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, pulse was not installed.
[23:38] <FriGiN> its not a boot drive anymore
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, with ubuntu-desktop it was
[23:38] <mobasher> manhunter=>> what are you running ?
[23:38] <ikonia> FriGiN: then you have nothing to worry about, your bios won't try to boot from it
[23:39] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, i had it on the system while i had all these troubles
[23:39] <FriGiN> ikonia: the system will see 2 boot drives tho.. the new hdd that is getting 7 installed on it that was recently ubuntu, and the old 500gb hdd that was windows 7 that has grub on it from installing ubuntu
[23:40] <manhunter> mobasher, many
[23:40] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, pulse is part of the "default" ubuntu-desktop package, i don't know why installing it would solve the problem (doesn't make a lot of sense, you might want to keep testing to verify)
[23:40] <ikonia> FriGiN: if your disk is not set to be the master boot drive, it won't matter, as it will boot off the primary before looking at the secondary
[23:40] <roxdragon> i have a nvidia geforce 9500gs ... but don't work on the ubuntu 10.10? :'( sigh
 Report: on this desktop this week was installed the follow operating systems: FreeNAS 0.7, Ubuntu Server 10.04, Openindiana, Openfiller, Windows XP, Windows 2003 Standart Server.... tests halted on Ubuntu Server 10.10 after desktop halted on BIOS screen. If I remove hard drive everything works fine. I can enter BIOS and install ubuntu server on another hard drive till next restart and get new halted BIOS :)
[23:40] <ikonia> FriGiN: when windows 7 is installed on a disk, it will replace the boot loader, so grub will go any way
[23:40] <dany> mobasher, ikonia > thank you for your help im going experimenting again (the plan was to run jbinup on tomcat through a webinterface)
[23:40] <mobasher> manhunter=>> i mean to ask is that if it's slow u can try xfce interface instead it's quite fast to load...kde is slow and so is gnome
[23:40] <ZykoticK9> roxdragon, are you installing current?
[23:41] <roxdragon> i have a ubuntu 10.10
[23:41] <roxdragon> with kernel lucid
[23:41] <FriGiN> ikonia: nah its not connected ATM.. i have all but the drive im working with disconnected.
[23:41] <ikonia> pepo: when you say "stops at bios" what do you mean, what is actually on the screen
 I had the same idea to make CD or USB stick first.. but nothing... halted after hard drive initialized
[23:41] <Pylix> ctrl+alt+t does not seem to be a working shortcut to the terminal for my keyboard
[23:41] <ikonia> FriGiN: that's what will happen when you do connect it
[23:41] <manhunter> mobasher, what about lxde?
[23:41] <tech2077> Pylix, what version of ubuntu are you using
[23:41] <ZykoticK9> roxdragon, system / admin / additional drivers - is current installed/selected (or the Recommended really)
[23:41] <Pylix> 10.10
[23:42] <manhunter> is there anything like fluxbuntu or ubuntuopenbox ?
[23:42] <tech2077> desktop or netbook
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> roxdragon, kernel lucid? are you serious?
[23:42] <manhunter> any distro like that?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> pepo: What BIOS/motherboard do you have?
[23:42] <ikonia> manhunter: yeah, fluxbuntu
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> manhunter: lubuntu has openbox
[23:42] <mobasher> manhunter=>>  both are lightweight and are in debate which is faster
[23:42] <FriGiN> ikonia: kk thx just making sure im already mad enough i cant get my wireless working proper in ubuntu i would hate to reformat for nothing.
 yes. BIOS on screen, Num Lock works, but no reaction on Del key
[23:42] <hawk3r> hey guys i just got 10.10 installed on my 3,1 macbook, and the trackpad works like shit..anyone found a fix?
[23:42] <Pylix> laptop
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, has fluxbunut released anything since 2008?
[23:42] <ikonia> pepo: what are you seeing on screen
[23:42] <tech2077> ok
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> hawk3r: check the wiki]
[23:42] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: no idea,
[23:42] <manhunter> ikonia, where can i download fluxbutu from?
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, i think it's basically dead
[23:43] <pepo> Asus NCT-D  AMIBIOS v.08.00.01
[23:43] <tech2077> Pylix, go to Applications, then go to Accesories , then click on terminal
[23:43] <mobasher> manhunter=>> it's more of a personal preference to use either one..xfce or lxde
[23:43] <darkkrai> my notifications seem to have been replaced with the older system...
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> manhunter: its in the repos
[23:43] <Pylix> ok it's open
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, it was in the Lucid UDS video
[23:43] <Angelov> I have problem with USB flash drive
[23:43] <Ceccon> ..
[23:43] <dany> btw does anyone know a good wireless N usb 2.0 dongle that works out of the box in ubuntu (so i dont have to go throug that dreadfull list)?
[23:43] <manhunter> fluxbuntu
[23:43] <tech2077> hawk3r, you would want to look intot the xf86-input-multitouch driver if your interested, but it's nt finished ye
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> !details | Angelov
[23:43] <ikonia> !hcl > dany
 Info about CPUs, memory, detected keyboard, CD-ROM and hard drive
[23:44] <Angelov> it says its write protected but there is no switch
[23:44] <tech2077> Pylix, then paste this in: sudo apt-get install unrar
[23:44] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: 9.04 seems to be the last
[23:44] <hawk3r> ok thanks tech2077 ill give it a shot
[23:44] <Jordan_U> dany: You're much more likely to find a supported PCI / PC card, if that's an option.
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, 2009 ;)
[23:44] <ikonia> pepo: probably can't deal with the boot loader so can't progress anywhere
[23:44] <Benkinooby> ZykoticK9, the packages i stalled were 3 packages that have screensaver in their name. nothing about sond. anyway. it works :D thank you & bye
[23:44] <Angelov> any idea how can I turn off the protection
[23:44] <dany> btw does anyone know a good wireless N usb 2.0 dongle that works out of the box in ubuntu ?
[23:44] <Angelov> The Flash Drive is
[23:44] <Angelov> TDK 8G
[23:44] <FriGiN> dany: good luck man thats why im going 7 right now instead of ubuntu
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> Benkinooby, enjoy ubuntu.
[23:44] <amagee> in ubuntu 10.10, how can i install flash plugin from the command line?
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> !flash | amagee
[23:45] <roxdragon> yes ZykoticK9
[23:45] <Diamondcite> Use apt-get to install the flash installer?
[23:45] <DeaCon> best video card for ubuntu 10.04?
[23:45] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> amagee, use "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[23:45] <roxdragon> i have ubuntu 10.10 with kernel lucid.. why kernel maverick don't work
[23:45] <ikonia> DeaCon: no such thing as best, research what's supported and meets your budget
 does it mean that bios check boot loader? but if boot loader is wrong you will see NO operating system...
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> amagee: see ikonia's message to me
[23:45] <tech2077> hawk3r, if you want the repo so you can install it without building from source it can be installed with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name && sudo apt-get update
[23:45] <DeaCon> ah just want something cheap that will work well
[23:45] <ikonia> roxdragon: what kernel version do you have
[23:46] <dany> well frigin i guess we are both *****
[23:46] <FriGiN> dany yupp
[23:46] <ikonia> dany: no need for language
[23:46] <Diamondcite> roxdragon: I've had that happen to a recent asus laptop too.. Maverick kernels don't boot.. lucid does..
[23:46] <roxdragon> ikonia, 2.6.32-25-generic
[23:46] <ikonia> roxdragon: that's a 10.04 kernel
[23:47] <dany> ikonia : sorry just a little dissapointed everything was recognized so good and this is a little downside for a ubuntu/linux beginner
[23:47] <roxdragon> yes ikonia  ... the kernel ubuntu 10.10 don't work
[23:47] <ikonia> dany: did you check it was supported before installing
[23:47] <ikonia> roxdragon: define "doesn't work"
[23:47] <dany> yes
[23:47] <mobasher> wifi docs help page is down - sent email to admin
[23:47] <ikonia> dany: did it say it was supported ?
[23:47] <roxdragon> when power on my pc show minimal shell
[23:47] <ikonia> !wifi
[23:48] <dany> and it waqs not supported i had to do all kind of trick with a wrapper. So i rather buy a new one that works out of the box
[23:48] <tech2077> roxdragon, is it grub shell or something like a root shell
[23:48] <ikonia> mobasher: wifi page in that link is up
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> !dontwork | roxdragon ;) i love this factoid
[23:48] <FriGiN> dany: my problem is this thing will connect for a while and then it dies, ppl said it was a power issue.. ive done everything i can to figure it ouy
[23:48] <Pylix> tech2077 it ask for a pass but i can't even follow because it won't let me type anymore :(
[23:48] <mobasher> ikonia=>> is down ->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:48] <ikonia> dany: ok - so you found out it wasn't supported, and your surprised it doesn't work out of the box
[23:48] <r3mix> thats a lot of users
[23:48] <hawk3r> tech2077 some files failed to download from that
[23:48] <ikonia> mobasher: no it's not, I'm reading it now
[23:48] <tech2077> Pylix, it doesn't show the characters for saftey, just type and press enter
[23:48] <rp2> is skype still alive on ubuntu? i can't find 2.1 which is rimored to exist and the 2,0.something i have crashes before i can use it for anything
[23:49] <tech2077> hawk3r, which ones
[23:49] <dany> yes, because everything was working so perfectly when i assenled the new media center
[23:49] <siganderson> roxdragon, a che punto stai?
[23:49] <ikonia> rp2: skype is nothing to do with ubuntu, it's in the partner repos and maintained by the owners
[23:49] <ikonia> dany: but you know it's not supported, so why would it work out the box
[23:49] <hawk3r>  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[23:49] <hawk3r> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[23:49] <Diamondcite> rp2, skype is in the partners repository for ubuntu
[23:49] <roxdragon> tech2077,  root shell
[23:49] <tech2077> oh
[23:49] <ikonia> hawk3r: contact the PPA owners, we don't support ppas
[23:49] <roxdragon> siganderson,  non riesco a parlare inglese -.-
[23:49] <panda_> ololo
[23:49] <hawk3r> ok.
[23:49] <mobasher> ikonia=>> yes..encryption page disabled :)
[23:49] <roxdragon> come glielo faccio capire che non mi va il kernel xD
[23:50] <killahop> roxdragon speack english pls
[23:50] <tech2077> hawk3r, probably down now or something
[23:50] <dany> that is not the point here. i am asking if someone knows one that works out of the box with usb 2.0 and wifi N. I was not asking if someone could make it magiccaly happen
[23:50] <FriGiN> rp2: i got it direct from skype.com in the linux section its worked out the box and no issues.
[23:50] <rp2> ikonia: except that it won't update after i add the partner repository. am i doing anything wrong?
[23:50] <Pylix> shit 3 incorrect attempts
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> hawk3r, "ppa-name" stands out
[23:50] <ikonia> mobasher: no, I'm reading it in https
[23:50] <Diamondcite> rp2, reloading doesn't work?
[23:50] <ikonia> rp2: how did you install it if you didn't have the partner repos enabled ?
[23:50] <rp2> frigin: i tried, but the link is dead.
[23:50] <ikonia> Pylix: control your language please
[23:50] <tech2077> Pylix, no need for language, it's the password you sign in with
[23:51] <rp2> i don't remember how i installed it. it was 2 years ago.
[23:51] <Pylix> np i got it
[23:51] <Diamondcite> Check your software sources.
[23:51] <ikonia> rp2: remove it, and install it using the repo
[23:51] <ikonia> !skype | rp2
[23:51] <rp2> i tried to get it from the skype site (fail) and from the canonical partner repository as recommended by the ubuntu help page on sjype (fail)
[23:51] <Pylix> i just thought for some reason i had to type sudo 'my pass'
[23:51] <FriGiN> rp2: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/
[23:51] <ikonia> FriGiN: please don't recommend that
[23:51] <ikonia> FriGiN: ubuntu has the repos setup - use the repos so it's supported
[23:52] <FriGiN> ikonia: alright then, either way it worked just fine for me. i'll keep it to myself.
[23:53] <Pylix> excuse me. i didn't think i was being so vulgar not like it was necessary anyway
[23:53] <roxdragon> i when I start maverick's kernel I get the shell and not gdm
[23:53] <Angelov> Ok , I have this flash drive TDK 8G and I have some stuffs on it.But now when I will try to mount it, it takes longer time for that , and when I'll try to formated or put some other stuffs to it , it wont let me. It says that the drive is write protect. Any help how to turn it off. The strange thing is the Flash drive dont have switch for lock/unlock
[23:53] <ZykoticK9> rp2, did you add partner then run the update either GUI or "sudo apt-get update" before installing skype?  for partner repo see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Canonical%20Partner%20Repositories
[23:53] <Diamondcite> Angelov: Is the drive used alot?
[23:53] <Diamondcite> Does it work on other systems?
[23:54] <Angelov> no
[23:54] <rp2> ykotic9: yes, i did. no effect. skype is till at 2.0.something
[23:54] <ikonia> rp2: then an update has not been released
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Angelov: How are you trying to format it? Can you pastebin the exact error message?
[23:54] <ZykoticK9> rp2, oh so it is installed?
[23:54] <rp2> frigin: thanks. when i open that page with firefox, the "Ubnto 8.10 30bit" link on it is dead. in chrome it isn't . weird
[23:54] <Angelov> I will try to paste it, give me a sec
[23:55] <ikonia> FriGiN: you shouldn't open that page - use the repo
[23:55] <ikonia> oops sorry
[23:55] <ikonia> rp2: you shouldn't open that page - use the repo
[23:55] <amagee> in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash , it has "before" and "after" versions of /etc/apt/sources.list, but the before and after are exactly the same.
[23:55] <ikonia> rp2: if you installed it without the repo, using the repo won't allow it to update, as the system is not aware of skype from outside the repo
[23:55] <ryrych> Ubuntu 10.10, sudo apt-get build-dep gimp and I get: Ignore unavailable target release 'lucid' of package 'gimp' - why does build-dep assumes I'm using Lucid?
[23:55] <rp2> ikonia: for the 3rd time: the repo doesn't give me 2.1
[23:56] <rp2> ok ok
[23:56] <rp2>  thanks
[23:56] <rp2> so how do i uninstall it??
[23:56] <ikonia> rp2: for the final time the update probaly hasn't been released
[23:56] <Pylix> install seems succesful save the odd msg debconf: unable to initialize frontend Dialog
[23:56] <ikonia> rp2: depends how you installed it
[23:56] <adac> Since i made an upgrade to 10.10 on my usb stick, when i boot the stick on my notebook the keyboard layout is completely wrong and I can't change the layout . However booting the stick on other pcs is no problem. also booting the stick via qemu shows the corret layout.
[23:56] <ryrych> anyone knows?
[23:56] <adac> any odea
[23:56] <adac> idea
[23:56] <ikonia> ryrych: gimp is in the repos, you don't need to build it
[23:56] <DanRose> How do I move from 6.06 to 8.04 on the CLI?
[23:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | DanRose
[23:57] <ryrych> ikonia: I want to build from trunk
[23:57] <tech2077> just a note for anyone else here building from source, check repos first
[23:57] <FriGiN> ikonia: i dont have the repo, dont rightly know the best way to get the repo, and its already installed and working.
[23:57] <ikonia> ryrych: why ?
[23:57] <ikonia> FriGiN: sorry, I meant that message to go to rp2
[23:57] <ryrych> ikonia: to try it out?
[23:57] <Angelov> Jordan_U: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Read-only file system
[23:57] <ryrych> ikonia: is a bug or a normal behaviour of build-dep?
[23:57] <ikonia> ryrych: then look at the gimp instructions on how to build it
[23:58] <FriGiN> ikonia: yah i just saw that sorry between the laptop and installing 7 on the desktop cuz ubuntu hates my usb wireless card.
[23:58] <rp2> i may have installed it from a .deb from skype.com ... how do i uninstall it?
[23:58] <ikonia> ryrych: it's not a bug - it's a dependency failure
[23:58] <ikonia> rp2: remove the deb
[23:58] <tech2077> ryrych, check if you have dep problems
[23:58] <Angelov> Jordan_U: That happens when I'm trying to format it
[23:58] <ryrych> tech2077: how?
[23:59] <rp2> ikonia: my question is: how?
[23:59] <rp2> i'm rnning aptitude remove skype now
[23:59] <ikonia> rp2: thats a start, but that will only remove debs it knows about (won't know about the one you installed outside of it) you'll have to use dpkg