[12:24] <rici> does anyone know why when i start gvim on xubuntu it complains about /usr/bin/esd not existing? Or, better yet, how I can get it to not complain, other than installing esd or using a crude workaround?
[12:25] <rici> i couldn't find esd in any obvious config files, but there are a lot of them...
[12:25] <maxamillion> rici: which package of gvim did you install?
[12:27] <rici> vim-full
[12:27] <rici> maxamillion: i had to use vim-full to get clientserver, because it got left out of the normal install for god knows what reason
[12:28] <rici> perhaps people don't know how useful it is.
[12:28] <maxamillion> ah
[12:28] <maxamillion> yeah ... no clue
[12:29] <maxamillion> i installed vim-gtk and life is good
[12:31] <rici> i just symlinked /usr/bin/esd to /bin/true to squelch the error, but it seems like that shouldn't be necessary :)
[12:34] <maxamillion> yeah ... it really should
[12:52] <ablomen> hey, xubuntu feisty doesnt boot right, cant even edit root files, what happend?
[12:52] <maxamillion> ablomen: not sure ... there was a kernel update today, could have borked something
[12:52] <ablomen> :(
[12:53] <ablomen> damn, stuck on windowz now
[12:53] <maxamillion> i'm not sure it did ... just might have
[12:53] <ablomen> well the weird thing is, i cant even run root commands
[12:53] <PiTcReW> whats improved in feisty?
[12:53] <rici> ok, i've got another obscure gvim question. when i send a command to the server, it raises the gvim window but doesn't give it keyboard focus. is there some window manager tweak i need to get that to work?
[12:53] <ablomen> shouldnt be kernel trouble should it?
[12:54] <maxamillion> ablomen: wait ... you can boot and login but not run sudo commands?
[12:55] <maxamillion> rici: not entirely sure to be honest, but that would probably be a good place to check
[12:55] <rici> yeah, i did, in both window manager settings and window manager tweaks
[12:55] <maxamillion> gotta run
[12:56] <ablomen> maxamillion, well, i start booting, i press ctr+alt+del and it goes into terminal mode (tries to start gdm but cant) then i cant run sudo commands
[12:57] <PiTcReW> xfce is skinnable isnt it?
[12:57] <PiTcReW> sorry if that was a really dumb question, i just switched from windows 2 days ago
[12:57] <BFTD> yes
[12:59] <PiTcReW> thanks
[01:01] <PiTcReW> and does anyone know a good xdcc list browser script for x-chat
[01:01] <PiTcReW> i googled and had no luck
[01:10] <lypsis> isnt really Xubuntu related... but here is one i used some time ago (small & simple, but it serves the purpose) => http://www.student.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~sf1017/xdcc-client/xdcc-client.pl
[01:11] <PiTcReW> hmmm
[01:11] <lypsis> if you wanna something like the xdccklipper script for mirc, wish you luck you find one, i didn't
[01:11] <PiTcReW> yeah thats what im lookin for
[01:11] <PiTcReW> :(
[01:11] <lypsis> :/
[01:11] <PiTcReW> hmmm
[01:11] <PiTcReW> how do you configure obsidian
[01:11] <PiTcReW> theres no man
[01:11] <lypsis> obsidian?
[01:11] <PiTcReW> and when i type /fs it gives me a list of commands
[01:12] <PiTcReW> its an fserve script
[01:12] <lypsis> sorry dont know :)
[01:12] <PiTcReW> its all good
[01:12] <PiTcReW> i think i found somethin
[01:14] <PiTcReW> hey where is the x-chat directory?
[01:15] <BFTD> its hidden
[01:15] <BFTD> ~/.xchat2
[01:15] <PiTcReW> yeah but where?
[01:15] <PiTcReW> alright
[01:15] <PiTcReW> thanks
[01:18] <PiTcReW> so if i put a perl script in that directory it would automatically load?
[01:26] <DJAnubis> okay
[01:27] <DJAnubis> I want to run wine and games, what xubuntu should I get?
[01:27] <DJAnubis> dapper, edgy, or feisty
[01:28] <DJAnubis> I'm guessing not feisty because it's unstable to the max, but someone said that edgy was unstable as well...
[01:28] <DJAnubis> but does dapper run wine and games well enough to not risk edgy?
[01:29] <maxamillion> DJAnubis: yeah, just get the newer version from winehq.com instead of the one in the dapper repositories
[01:29] <DJAnubis> alright, thanks :D
[01:30] <maxamillion> np
[01:30] <DJAnubis> so...for this I would go where in the downloads section?
[01:31] <DJAnubis> just ubuntu?
[01:31] <DJAnubis> I'd ask in their channel but I just riled up a storm on accident
[01:32] <maxamillion> DJAnubis: yeah, just ubuntu ... xubuntu shares the same repositories as ubuntu so its the same underlying system
[01:32] <DJAnubis> roger that
[01:33] <DJAnubis> alright, time for food, cya geekz and einz later when I upgrade from kubuntu to xubuntu
[01:33] <maxamillion> :)
[01:33] <DJAnubis> I've heard it's better anyways ;D
[01:33] <maxamillion> i like to think so
[01:34] <_spaz> hi _CodemanMob_
[01:35] <PiTcReW> xubuntu is fast as fuck
[01:35] <_spaz> O_o
[01:35] <_spaz> language please
[01:35] <PiTcReW> sorry
[01:36] <_spaz> well i don't mind, but the guys in charge might >_>
[01:36] <PiTcReW> oh , thanks for telling me
[01:36] <PiTcReW> i don't want to get banned or anything
[01:36] <_spaz> np, just be careful :)
[01:37] <PiTcReW> could someone test my fserve for me?
[01:37] <PiTcReW> please
[01:37] <tropicana> hello
[01:37] <_spaz> PiTcReW: sure
[01:37] <PiTcReW> type /ctcp PiTcReW !lakaiordiee
[01:37] <tropicana> im havin some probs logigng in
[01:37] <PiTcReW> thanks
[01:37] <maxamillion> PiTcReW: we don't ban around here on first offense ;) ... usually takes like 3-5 :)
[01:38] <PiTcReW> alright thanks for the info
[01:38] <tropicana> can any1 help me out?
[01:38] <PiTcReW> i appreciate it
[01:38] <PiTcReW> hmmmm
[01:38] <PiTcReW> spaz
[01:38] <PiTcReW> what pops up?
[01:38] <PiTcReW> nothing?
[01:38] <_spaz> 19:38 [ctcp(PiTcReW)]  !LAKAIORDIEE
[01:38] <_spaz> that's it
[01:38] <maxamillion> tropicana: what kind of problems are you having logging in?
[01:38] <PiTcReW> junkk
[01:39] <tropicana> maxamillion, when i try to log in to my root account, it briefly shows the desktop and then restarts
[01:39] <_spaz> tropicana: are you trying to login as root on the gui?
[01:40] <tropicana> _spaz, im logging in to my main acount
[01:40] <_spaz> oic
[01:40] <_spaz> hmm...
[01:40] <tropicana> yeah
[01:40] <maxamillion> tropicana: you should never graphically log in as root
[01:40] <_spaz> indeed
[01:40] <tropicana> maxamillion, its not root, its my main account, the admin account?
[01:40] <maxamillion> tropicana: wait, you are logging in as the suder user? ... oh, hmmm
[01:40] <_spaz> oh, that's fine
[01:40] <tropicana> yes
[01:40] <_spaz> try this:
[01:40] <tropicana> but i can log in to another account i made
[01:40] <maxamillion> that's a little strange that its doing that
[01:41] <_spaz> oh...
[01:41] <tropicana> i even tried failsafe gnome
[01:41] <_spaz> i had a similar problem once tropicana
[01:41] <tropicana> oh
[01:41] <tropicana> _spaz, what did u do?
[01:41] <_spaz> you'll have to recreate the account :(
[01:41] <_spaz> but...
[01:41] <tropicana> oh dam
[01:41] <_spaz> do it so you don't remove your home :)
[01:41] <tropicana> mm
[01:41] <tropicana> theres no otehr way?
[01:41] <_spaz> i tried, sorry :/
[01:42] <tropicana> maxamillion, any ideas?
[01:43] <tropicana> how do i recreate the account?
[01:43] <maxamillion> tropicana: wait ... you said you tried failsafe gnome? ... you are using gnome?
[01:44] <tropicana> well
[01:44] <tropicana> i have gnome and xfce
[01:44] <tropicana> and right now, xfce works with the other account
[01:45] <maxamillion> tropicana: ok, do ctrl+alt+f1 and login to the command line
[01:46] <tropicana> then wat
[01:46] <tropicana> i wont be able to talk here anymore
[01:46] <_Codeman_> Hey, I need help... does xubuntu support DLink dl120 wifi card?
[01:47] <maxamillion> tropicana: well does the account you are logged into have sudo privilaged?
[01:47] <maxamillion> privilages*
[01:47] <tropicana> um
[01:47] <tropicana> im not sure
[01:47] <maxamillion> then no
[01:47] <maxamillion> tropicana: what is the name of the other account?
[01:48] <tropicana> i named it robert
[01:48] <tropicana> when i installed xubuntu
[01:48] <maxamillion> tropicana: ok, open a terminal window and type "su robert" and then type the password for that account when it asks
[01:48] <tropicana> k
[01:48] <tropicana> ok
[01:48] <tropicana> done
[01:49] <maxamillion> ok .... just a minute
[01:49] <tropicana> k
[01:49] <tropicana> eck, now wat
[01:49] <tropicana> ops
[01:49] <soweto76> _Codeman_, DLink model names don't reliably specify what kind of chip is actually there.  lspci will give you some information on the chip which can be used to search in the Ubuntu forums.
[01:50] <soweto76> _Codeman_, DLink model names don't reliably specify what kind of chip is actually there.  lspci will give you some information on the chip which can be used to search in the Ubuntu forums.
[01:50] <maxamillion> soweto76: please don't double post
[01:50] <soweto76> maxamillion, forgive me the post did not show up here, sorry
[01:51] <maxamillion> soweto76: oh, no worries :)
[01:51] <_Codeman_> soweto76: Ok, thanks
[01:52] <maxamillion> tropicana: ok, now type "cd /home/robert/.config/xfce4-sessions/"
[01:52] <tropicana> no such file
[01:52] <tropicana> or directory
[01:53] <maxamillion> tropicana: uhmmm.... ok
[01:53] <tropicana> maybe it's because i use gnome ?
[01:53] <tropicana> well, more often
[01:53] <maxamillion> tropicana: shouldn't matter ... if you have xfce installed that file should be there
[01:53] <maxamillion> tropicana: have you ever logged into xfce4 with that account?
[01:54] <tropicana> yes
[01:54] <tropicana> before i had gnome, i wud all the time
[01:54] <maxamillion> yeah, then that folder should still be there
[01:55] <Qew> did you name it Robert or robert?
[01:55] <tropicana> robert
[01:55] <Qew> oh well
[01:55] <soweto76> maxamillion, you put an "s" on sessions
[01:55] <maxamillion> lol .. so i did
[01:56] <maxamillion> tropicana: ok, now type "cd /home/robert/.config/xfce4-session/" :)
[01:56] <maxamillion> soweto76: thanks ... good eye ;)
[01:56] <tropicana> lmao
[01:56] <tropicana> there we go
[01:56] <maxamillion> tropicana: now type "rm xfce4-session.rc" and then try to login with that account again
[01:56] <tropicana> using xfce?
[01:57] <maxamillion> tropicana: yes
[01:57] <tropicana> ok brb
[01:57] <maxamillion> k
[01:57] <_Codeman_> soweto76: Oh, I guess I should mention, the wifi card is USB
[01:57] <maxamillion> _Codeman_: yes, that would have been valuable info ;)
[01:57] <_Codeman_> lol sorry
[01:57] <soweto76> _Codeman_, lsusb  man lsusb   might help then
[01:58] <_Codeman_> ok thanks
[01:58] <soweto76> lsusb -v  perhaps
[01:59] <b52laptop> hi guys late consider my hosts name is x-laptop , when i ping him i receive the adress of my eth0(great it's wokring) , but wheni ping x-laptop:1521  , not known host
[01:59] <b52laptop> ?
[01:59] <tropicana> no
[01:59] <tropicana> it didnt work
[01:59] <tropicana> it showed my desktop
[01:59] <tropicana> then kicked me out
[02:00] <maxamillion> b52laptop: do you have that port open?
[02:00] <tropicana> mm
[02:00] <b52laptop> maxamillion,  i have no firewall running and oracle installed so yeah this port should be open
[02:00] <maxamillion> tropicana: can you login with that account in gnome?
[02:01] <tropicana> maxamillion, didnt try but probably not
[02:01] <tropicana> since the last few times it didnt work
[02:01] <maxamillion> tropicana: well, try ... i need to know if this is an account problem or a xfce problem
[02:01] <maxamillion> tropicana: o
[02:01] <tropicana> maxamillion, i cant log in with any of the options
[02:01] <maxamillion> tropicana: nvm, if it hasn't been able to log into gnome in the past i doubt it will now
[02:01] <tropicana> mmm
[02:02] <b52laptop> :(
[02:02] <tropicana> when i log in with failsafe gnome, it gives me some errors
[02:02] <tropicana> but they disappear too quickly
[02:03] <maxamillion> strange
[02:03] <maxamillion> i need to go .... very sorry ... maybe ask in #ubuntu
[02:03] <soweto76> tropicana, cat .xsesson-errors
[02:04] <tropicana> no suc file or directory
[02:04] <_spaz> brb
[02:04] <tropicana> =\
[02:04] <soweto76> tropicana, spelling?  cat .xsession-errors
[02:05] <tropicana> oh
[02:05] <tropicana> there we go
[02:06] <tropicana> soveto76, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14321/
[02:06] <tropicana> soweto76, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14321/
[02:06] <tropicana> wat do u make of it>
[02:06] <tropicana> ?
[02:07] <soweto76> not much :)
[02:07] <tropicana> lmao
[02:07] <tropicana> gg
[02:07] <tropicana> well thanks anyways
[02:07] <tropicana> im off
[02:07] <tropicana> see ya
[02:08] <_Codeman_> ok, so I got the info... what should I search for?
[02:08] <soweto76> _Codeman_, can you guess the name of the chip in that mess?
[02:08] <Qew> b52laptop: ping sees that as a wrong address, not as an address with a port value. If you omit the ":1521", it should ping.
[02:09] <b52laptop> Qew,  ping med-laptop:1521
[02:09] <b52laptop> ping: unknown host med-laptop:1521
[02:09] <_Codeman_> I would probably guess Atmel Corp at76c503a
[02:09] <Qew> omit the :1521
[02:10] <soweto76> _Codeman_, looks likely
[02:10] <soweto76> _Codeman_, maybe search for atmel to begin with
[02:10] <b52laptop> Qew,  i want to ping on the port 1521
[02:10] <b52laptop> i know in ping on the host name
[02:10] <Qew> yeah, but ping can't do that
[02:10] <b52laptop> hmmmm
[02:10] <b52laptop> ah ok
[02:11] <Qew> it's just seeing that as part of the address
[02:11] <b52laptop> ok
[02:12] <ormiret> you cna use telnet to see if you can connect to the port
[02:12] <soweto76> _Codeman_, maybe atmel usb
[02:12] <Qew> yeah, try that
[02:12] <b52laptop> ok
[02:16] <soweto76> _Codeman_, http://sourceforge.net/projects/atmelwlandriver/
[02:17] <soweto76> _Codeman_, apt-cache search atmel
[02:20] <soweto76> _Codeman_, you will need to add the multiverse repository for apt
[02:21] <soweto76> _Codeman_, looks like a big mess but fun if you like this sort of thing ;)
[02:21] <_Codeman_> how do I do that?
[02:21] <soweto76> do what?
[02:22] <_Codeman_> add the multiverse repository
[02:22] <soweto76> _Codeman_, System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[02:23] <soweto76> _Codeman_, Synaptic -> settings -> repositories
[02:23] <odat> how do i solve a kernel panic from the installation cd
[02:24] <_Codeman_> will that operation require internet?
[02:24] <Nameless-One> hey can someone assist me, when compiling some software i get the error:
[02:24] <Nameless-One> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXt"   ...   "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
[02:24] <Nameless-One> what package do i have to install to get this "-lxt" thing, its in one of the x11 dev packages but i'm not sure which one and i cant just install them all
[02:25] <soweto76> _Codeman_, well, to use the repository you will of course need the Internet
[02:26] <_Codeman_> ok... so do I download the file from SF and then install that... then the card works and then do the repository thing? cuz if not I won't be able to do it
[02:27] <soweto76> _Codeman_, not sure what you are getting into here -- over my head.  look at apt-cache show atmel-firmware
[02:27] <ormiret> odat: you'll need to figure out what is causing the panic, what kind of messages did you get before it, have a look in /var/log/dmesg and kern.log (on your installed system not the live CD).
[02:28] <soweto76> _Codeman_, use the ubuntu package from multiverse -- advisable but read the SF stuff too.
[02:29] <ormiret> _Codeman_: you can get packages from packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them by disk to the target machine (but you have to get the dependencies too).
[02:29] <_Codeman_> if I understand you correctly... I need internet to get my wifi card working... but that computer's only internet access is via wifi
[02:29] <odat> ormiret  crc error
[02:30] <_Codeman_> ok, maybe I should go for the dual boot thing first...
[02:30] <ormiret> odat: on what?
[02:30] <soweto76> _Codeman_, gotcha!  Well, I hope the box has a ethernet port!  You will need an Internet connection to use Synaptic to get the packages
[02:31] <odat> ormiret, i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop and once i select the install option it give me the error crc error system halt
[02:32] <ormiret> odat: you're getting this on the livecd? In that case it's likely to be a bad disk, run the disk check from the boot menu to make sure.
[02:34] <_Codeman_> soweto76: It has one but the computer is nowhere near the router... anyway, after reading the dual boot help I thing the install missed my Windows installation
[02:36] <soweto76> _Codeman_, It would probably be easier to move the puter to the ethernet in the long run.  That wifi might be a bit tricky to setup.
[02:39] <soweto76> _Codeman_, Sorry I could not provide more useful instructions.  Good Luck!
[03:02] <bur[n] er> anyone know what command I could use to bind to a hotkey to control volume hte xfce way?  can xfce4-mixer accept stuff?
[04:28] <rici> does anyone know of a command line utility or other simple way to tell a window manager to give keyboard focus to a specific window?
[04:50] <DJAnubis> hai
[04:52] <ormiret> hi DJAnubis
[04:53] <DJAnubis> does anyone know how I can make this font less ow?
[04:55] <ormiret> There are antialiasing options in one of the settings dialogues.
[04:56] <DJAnubis> hm
[04:57] <DJAnubis> wow
[04:57] <DJAnubis> that's amazing
[04:58] <DJAnubis> well, I found the fonts in looking for anti-aliasing
[04:58] <DJAnubis> and that's what I meant. sorry
[04:58] <DJAnubis> lol
[04:59] <DJAnubis> st looks all funny now
[04:59] <DJAnubis> whateva
[04:59] <ormiret> :)
[04:59] <DJAnubis> ty
[05:03] <miyako> hello- I just installed xubuntu-desktop and am attempting to get Beryl to work.  I have Beryl working under KDE and Gnome, however when I attempt to launch beryl manager from XFCE, the X server dies.  I'm using AIGLX.
[05:03] <DJAnubis> possible help with soundcard setup?
[05:05] <fischer> I don't know too much about sound card setup, but you will find a very extensive guide here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Cirrus_Logic#matrix
[05:05] <DJAnubis> :o
[05:06] <DJAnubis> uh...
[05:06] <fischer> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php
[05:06] <DJAnubis> I'm meaning, where can I choose what soundcard I'm using and the volume at which it's being used
[05:08] <fischer> I am not currently sitting at my Xubuntu box, (using an old fluxbuntu machine right now) so I'll try to do this from memory... right-click on your panel and add an item.  Find the volume manager and add it.  Xubuntu is pretty good about locating your soundcard for you.
[05:12] <fischer> Any luck?
[05:17] <DJAnubis> nope
[05:17] <DJAnubis> I'm getting zero sound
[05:18] <crimsun> DJAnubis: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:18] <crimsun> then tell me the url
[05:21] <DJAnubis> k
[05:23] <fischer> DJAnubis, the link that I posted earlier is wrong.  That one will point you to the right driver once you know the chipset of your soundcard, but check out this soundcard setup guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[05:24] <DJAnubis> AWRAWRAWR....and pastebin doesn't work...
[05:26] <ormiret> works from here...
[05:28] <DJAnubis> ow
[05:29] <DJAnubis> man my eyes hurt
[05:29] <DJAnubis> okay, I'm confused now
[05:29] <DJAnubis> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Audigy+ES.&chip=emu10k2&module=emu10k1#Inst
[05:29] <DJAnubis> that's where I'm at now
[05:30] <DJAnubis> speaking of roots, I've got a root canal and it's hurting, it's not supposed to hurt, damnit
[05:30] <DJAnubis> bloody dentist's gonna get sued
[05:31] <ormiret> DJAnubis: you shouldn't need to go through that procedure unless your card isn't supported out of the box.
[05:31] <ormiret> Do you have snd* modules loaded out of the box?
[05:31] <DJAnubis> oops, wrong card
[05:32] <DJAnubis> it's the Sound Blaster Audigy SE
[05:32] <ormiret> what does 'lshw -c multimedia' get you?
[05:32] <DJAnubis> snd* modules?
[05:33] <ormiret> sorry that chould be -C
[05:33] <DJAnubis> it gives me nothing but format, oh
[05:33] <DJAnubis> h/o
[05:33] <DJAnubis> I'll try pastebinning it
[05:34] <DJAnubis> EXPLETIVE DELETED
[05:34] <DJAnubis> is there another place I can do that?
[05:35] <ormiret> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <ormiret> or is that where you were trying already?
[05:35] <DJAnubis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14334/
[05:35] <DJAnubis> I was doing pastebin.com
[05:36] <crimsun> ah, you have an onboard and a severely crippled SB "Live"
[05:36] <crimsun> congratulations on your craptacular purchase.
[05:37] <DJAnubis> ?
[05:37] <DJAnubis> what do you mean?
[05:37] <crimsun> hardware driven by snd-ca0106 can be summed up in a monosyllabic word: "crap".
[05:37] <DJAnubis> that card works wonderfully in windows
[05:38] <crimsun> that's Creative's marketing gimmicks
[05:38] <DJAnubis> okay, thanks, stop being a dick about it and tell me if I can do anything about it?
[05:38] <crimsun> I'm waiting for the stuff I asked for
[05:38] <DJAnubis> such as?
[05:38] <crimsun> 23:18 < crimsun> DJAnubis: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:38] <crimsun> 23:18 < crimsun> then tell me the url
[05:39] <DJAnubis> ...I...you...I did that then you told me, "oh wait, I meant this"
[05:39] <DJAnubis> dangit
[05:39] <crimsun> I what?
[05:39] <crimsun> I've been waiting for 20 minutes
[05:39] <DJAnubis> ocrap
[05:39] <DJAnubis> I'm going to cry
[05:40] <DJAnubis> fischer and you have similar looking names at thisdistance
[05:41] <DJAnubis> I'm so sorry
[05:42] <crimsun> no prob, just post that info ASAP.
[05:42] <DJAnubis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14335/
[05:42] <DJAnubis> there
[05:42] <DJAnubis> I hope I'm talking to the same person
[05:43] <DJAnubis> hm
[05:54] <_Codeman_> what is the website for dl'ing the packages
[05:54] <ormiret> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <_Codeman_> makes sense
[05:57] <_Codeman_> are udev and hotplug similar?
[06:00] <_Codeman_> Is there a package iso I can dl?
[06:00] <crimsun> err, djanubis parted. Sigh.
[06:02] <fischer> crimsun, I'm currently experimenting with an old P2 Thinkpad and am using fluxbuntu on this machine.  Cannot seem to get my sound card configured either.  Words of wisdom?
[06:02] <fischer>   *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[06:02] <fischer>        description: Multimedia audio controller
[06:02] <fischer>        product: CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]
[06:02] <fischer>        vendor: Cirrus Logic
[06:02] <fischer>        physical id: 6
[06:02] <fischer>        bus info: pci@00:06.0
[06:02] <fischer>        version: 01
[06:02] <fischer>        width: 32 bits
[06:02] <fischer>        clock: 33MHz
[06:02] <fischer>        resources: iomemory:50100000-50100fff iomemory:50000000-500fffff irq:11
[06:03] <crimsun> fischer: which TP?
[06:04] <fischer> 770Z
[06:04] <crimsun> I'm pretty sure you need snd-cs4232 instead of snd-cs46xx
[06:04] <fischer> Ok, thanks.  I'll give that a try.
[06:06] <crimsun> no, use snd-cs4236 instead. Sorry.
[06:06] <crimsun> make sure QuickBoot is disabled in bios.
[06:07] <crimsun> http://trilug.org/~crimsun/tp-init-snd-cs4236.sh
[06:10] <fischer> please forgive my ignorance... do I need to execute your script, or should I plant that within Alsa or somewhere else?
[06:10] <crimsun> download it and invoke it from /etc/rc.local
[06:11] <_Codeman_> So, the only way to install packages is through the internet?
[06:12] <crimsun> _Codeman_: no, you can install them from any legit apt source, including a cdrom.
[06:13] <_Codeman_> are there any "default package" iso's out there?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Isn't that all of them?
[06:14] <crimsun> well, maybe he means "default Kubuntu packages" in a Xubuntu iso. :-)
[06:15] <_Codeman_> I mean an iso with packages like udev, perl, stuff like that... basically a bunch of packages that would be dependencies for other packages
[06:16] <_Codeman_> cuz hunting them all down myself could take... weeks or months lol
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Sounds like any alternate CD is your friend - or the 6 DVD set
[06:16] <_Codeman_> I have an alt disk
[06:16] <fischer> I have moved your .sh file to /etc and have renamed it as rc.local.  Then typed in $ ./rc.local  -- no errors
[06:17] <fischer> wife just hollered down the hall.  our toilet is apparently plugged, so I've got to go for the time being.  thanks for your help!
[06:19] <_Codeman_> Where's the 6 dvd set at?
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Good question...where did I see that?
[06:20] <crimsun> Debian.   Sound works great.  This setting should stay, right?  When I reboot, sound should still work, eh?
[06:25] <_Codeman_> ouch... can't dl the images?
[06:25] <ormiret> There are images here: http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[06:25] <ormiret> I've no idea whats on them though...
[06:27] <crimsun> fischer: as long as that script is executed on boot, yes.
[06:27] <fischer> great!  thanks so much!
[06:40] <feliciano> are nvidia-glx working on xubuntu?
[06:40] <feliciano> I cant make  it work...
[07:11] <samarkand> Hello
[07:26] <j3r3miah> how do you change the preferred wireless networks in nm-applet with xfce4? i thought the settings were in gconf-editor, but they aren't on my machine.
[07:28] <magic_ninja> if i want to hook up two computers to the internet, can i put 2 NICs into one of them and use linux as a router?
[07:29] <j3r3miah> i couldn't tell you how, but you definitely can
[07:29] <magic_ninja> wow
[07:29] <j3r3miah> you can find a howto if you google it
[07:29] <magic_ninja> just wondered if the idea would owrk
[07:29] <magic_ninja> thats awsome
[07:29] <magic_ninja> i got 2 comps, 2 nic cards, yay
[07:29] <j3r3miah> sounds like fun
[07:29] <magic_ninja> routing shouldn't use too much system resources
[07:30] <j3r3miah> dunno
[07:31] <ormiret> not unless you have fancy rules for the routing
[07:32] <magic_ninja> na
[07:32] <j3r3miah> like inverting all the images that pass through and translating the text to russian
[07:32] <magic_ninja> probably have dat
[07:33] <j3r3miah> i can't find where nm-applet keeps its settings
[07:33] <j3r3miah> its not in man, its not on their website
[07:33] <magic_ninja> the only thing is that i want to run it, more along the lines of a daemon
[07:33] <BFTD> hey all
[07:33] <BFTD> anyone need help?
[07:34] <j3r3miah> know anything about gnome-network-manager?
[07:35] <magic_ninja> no
[07:35] <BFTD> j3r3miah a bit
[07:35] <magic_ninja> the thing is i have no money and no hub, but i got a couple pieces of network wiring
[07:35] <magic_ninja> well, cat5 eth wire
[07:36] <magic_ninja> got a usb cable modem in my main pc
[07:36] <magic_ninja> figure if i had a nic i could just use my main pc as a router to hook it up to the other pc
[07:36] <j3r3miah> where does it store it settings? can't figure this out. it has no UI for changing preferred networks.... want to change it manually
[08:02] <helga> guys where is the japanese keyboard map file?
[08:02] <samarkand> Any of you guys install xubuntu on a PII 350 ?
[08:03] <helga> there is a bug since dapper that makes the ] } key act like \|
[08:03] <helga> I need to manually fix it in that file but I dont remember where it is
[08:03] <helga> or what it's called
[08:03] <helga> or something changed dramatically in feisty with keyboard mapping
[08:03] <helga> also enterprise volume management is hosing my bootup and I cant get the .20 kernel to work at all
[08:03] <helga> what the hell is it and why does it exist ?
[08:04] <samarkand> install is going faster than i thought interested to see how it performs
[08:08] <hyper_ch> huhu
[11:39] <magic_ninja> if i want to do a bare-bones install of xubuntu from the alternate cd does anyone have a good howto?
[11:40] <posingaspopular> magic_ninja: xubuntu is pretty bare bones as is
[11:41] <hyper_ch> bare bone?
[11:41] <hyper_ch> install the server version
[11:41] <posingaspopular> you mean... manually choose what to install?
[11:41] <magic_ninja> pretty much
[11:42] <posingaspopular> hmm i duno
[11:43] <posingaspopular> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2403387
[12:45] <Andeh> Hello
[12:45] <Andeh> Where can i set the default app for opening a file type?
[12:45] <Andeh> Cause no matter what i do xubuntu always opens stuff with totem
[12:46] <Andeh> i want it to use VLC for example
[12:47] <_aussieman> get rid of totem
[12:47] <_aussieman> it didnt come with xubu when i installed it, gxine was stalling and i just inastalled vlc and no probs
[12:50] <posingaspopular> Andeh: what _aussieman  said
[12:50] <_aussieman> posingaspopular, yeh
[12:51] <Deviad> Hello
[12:52] <Deviad> I have just downloaded xubuntu 7.04 beta and I'm getting an issue: X server does not boot up because of a trouble with vesa
[12:52] <Deviad> That's pretty weird as my videocard works fine in gentoo and 6.10 :|
[12:52] <Deviad> and ubuntu 6.10*
[12:52] <Deviad> What's wrong with xubuntu?
[12:52] <_aussieman> nothing much
[12:54] <Deviad> OK, I found the problem on the forum
[12:54] <Deviad> How may I run the installation without X?
[12:55] <_aussieman> someone wake up and help Deviad - but Deviad look in the help.ubuntu pages
[12:56] <Deviad> OK, I have to run the alternative install cd
[12:57] <_aussieman> yep
[12:57] <_aussieman> im not a hacker just a devoted user... i have some wifi probs  so im hanging around have fun
[12:57] <Deviad> Are there still any troubles with repositories and x86_64 packages as some time ago it was hard to find some package for that acrchitecture?
[12:58] <_aussieman> dunno
[12:58] <Deviad> mmm
[01:00] <grazie> Deviad: I'm not an x86_64 user, but I know there are quite a few problems and more limited package choice for all distros on this platform
[01:00] <posingaspopular> Deviad: what is.... vesa?
[01:04] <Deviad> mmm like a X generic driver which should work with any video card
[01:05] <posingaspopular> hmm i duno, thats news to me
[01:08] <grazie> Deviad: that's vesa...usually built into the kernel by default, not a separate package
[01:09] <kj0ttdeig> is it possible to remove e.g. firefox in xubuntu? when i try to remove it in synaptic, it require "xubuntu desktop" to be removed aswell :P
[01:10] <posingaspopular> kj0ttdeig: noo...... you're doing it wrong
[01:10] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure the command is 'purge -firefox'
[01:10] <posingaspopular> someone will correct my inevitable mistake though
[01:11] <posingaspopular> in terminal i mean
[01:12] <kj0ttdeig> purge: command not found
[01:12] <b_52Centos> anyone running a Oracle-xe
[01:12] <b_52Centos> ?
[01:13] <posingaspopular> hmmmm
[01:13] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get remove firefox?
[01:13] <posingaspopular> maybe
[01:14] <posingaspopular> i duno, ive done it in ubuntu, but that's gnome not xfce, not sure if the desktop enviornment will change the commands though
[01:14] <Schalken> does apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop on a normal ubuntu system have any effect on the usability of gnome?
[01:14] <_aussieman> dont think so
[01:18] <kj0ttdeig> "sudo apt-get remove firefox"
[01:18] <kj0ttdeig> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[01:18] <kj0ttdeig>   firefox gnome-app-install gxine xubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <kj0ttdeig> and i don't want it to remove xubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <posingaspopular> oh right...
[01:21] <Schalken> !xubuntu-desktop > kj0ttdeig
[01:22] <Schalken> no bot?
[01:22] <Maximilian1st> Hi folks. I just wanted to let you, Xubuntu users and devs, know that an Xfce dev has brought out an alpha of a wireless chooser application. It can be found here http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig.
[01:22] <kj0ttdeig> yeah, i got something Schalken
[01:22] <posingaspopular> Schalken: there is a bot
[01:22] <Schalken> !help
[01:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:23] <posingaspopular> hmmm that's strange, i thought i knew how to uninstall firefox....
[01:23] <Schalken> ah
[01:24] <grazie> kj0ttdeig: xubuntu-desktop is meta package. Removing it will do no harm
[01:24] <kj0ttdeig> and what about the 2 other packages it wants to remove?
[01:25] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: whats the advantage of air-config over network-manager?
[01:25] <Maximilian1st> No gnome dependency for example?
[01:26] <Maximilian1st> That should fit Xfce users
[01:26] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: network manager doesnt depend on gnome. theres even a kde frontend.
[01:26] <Schalken> or does the gnome frontend depend on gnome? :P
[01:26] <grazie> kj0ttdeig: they are not meta packages and will be removed. You can always reinstall if you want to keep them
[01:28] <Andeh> Hello
[01:29] <Andeh> Is there a "what app to use when opening this filetype every time" menu or something?
[01:29] <Andeh> Cause the only responses i got was to get rid of everything i didnt want to open my file with :D
[01:30] <Diego> hi all
[01:30] <Diego> how can i change the mac adress under xubuntu?
[01:31] <grazie> Andeh: right click on file and select "Open With" or "Open With Other Application..."
[01:32] <Andeh> grazie: Yes. How do i tell it to ALWAYS open with that?
[01:32] <grazie> Andeh: your choice is remembered
[01:33] <Maximilian1st> Schalken, That is a good point, yet if you need to enter some wep key for your wireless AP you will need some sort of GUI and that is where the applet comes in handy.
[01:33] <Andeh> Oh
[01:33] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: ah
[01:34] <Schalken> so is air-config a frontend for network maanger or simply a network configurator?
[01:34] <Maximilian1st> a network configurator with front-end for Xfce
[01:35] <Andeh> Ok thanks
[01:35] <Andeh> Bye :-)
[01:36] <Diego> #ubuntu-de
[01:36] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: does that mean it has to be run as root? (to modify network config)
[01:37] <Diego> how can i change the mac adress ???
[01:37] <posingaspopular> Diego: mac... adress?
[01:37] <Schalken> Diego: a mac address is built into your network card. it cannot be changed.
[01:38] <Diego> k
[01:39] <Maximilian1st> Schalken, You can run it as a normal user
[01:39] <Diego> how can i see which is my mac adress
[01:39] <Diego> ?
[01:40] <tors_> sudo ifconfig <interface> hw ether <new-mac-address>
[01:46] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: then how does it modify the config? isnt that what network manager is for, to provide an interface for frontends to change network config, or does air-config provide a similar soervice as well as a userspace frontend?
[01:47] <Maximilian1st> It uses wpa_supplicant, just like Network Manager does.
[01:49] <Maximilian1st> I read your question once again and yes, it does provide a service with a frontend.
[01:49] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: ah okay
[01:50] <Schalken> interesting
[01:50] <Maximilian1st> Give it a try, yet the author states it is Work in progress.
[01:51] <Schalken> Maximilian1st: arr id rather not in fear of bugginess
[01:51] <Schalken> plus i have to install xubuntu-desktop first :P
[01:51] <Schalken> i'd*
[02:14] <frandavid100> hello!
[02:14] <frandavid100> I'm kinda new to xubuntu, can you tell me how to access another computer's samba shares?
[02:14] <mkquist> anyone up?
[02:15] <mkquist> well, im just getting back to that very thing, so im not in a place to help there yet... sry
[02:15] <mkquist> just now setting up a server for my lan
[02:16] <mkquist> might take a shot in #ubuntu, more active generally
[02:16] <frandavid100> thanks mkquist!
[03:43] <mindblock> .. is it me..or is there a slight perfomance decrease in xfce 4.4?
[03:43] <lypsis> mindblock: think so , too
[03:44] <mindblock> lypsis: even my fps is going considerably slower after the upgrade
[03:44] <mindblock> lypsis: is there a way to revert?
[03:46] <lypsis> i dont really know sorry
[03:47] <lypsis> i only have 256mb ram, so I havent activated such thing as beryl / compiz
[03:47] <lypsis> perhaps its the graphics driver, have to check this (on 6.10 the nvidia restricted ones were WAYS better and faster in my opinion)
[03:49] <mindblock> ive got ati too, and thats never a good thing lol
[03:49] <lypsis> since 7.10 i have to use the legacy ones...very strange hm
[03:50] <mindblock> u mean 7.04?
[03:51] <lypsis> sorry yeah ur right
[03:51] <lypsis> 7.04, sure
[03:51] <lypsis> or call it 'feisty' ;)
[03:51] <mindblock> feisty worked good on my machine i tested it out
[03:52] <lypsis> except the little performance decrease
[03:55] <hyper_ch> hiho
[03:55] <lypsis> hy hyper_ch
[04:01] <hyper_ch> finally I can continue:<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes (160 GB) copied, 90679.8 seconds, 1.8 MB/s
[04:08] <grazie> hyper_ch: is that backing to your server?
[04:08] <grazie> backing up*
[04:08] <hyper_ch> nope, that's preparing for harddisk encryption :)
[04:09] <grazie> wow!
[04:09] <hyper_ch> hyper@xubi:/dev$ sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[04:09] <hyper_ch> dd: writing to `/dev/hda': No space left on device
[04:09] <hyper_ch> 312581809+0 records in
[04:09] <hyper_ch> 312581808+0 records out
[04:09] <hyper_ch><PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes (160 GB) copied, 90679.8 seconds, 1.8 MB/s
[04:09] <hyper_ch> http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian
[04:13] <grazie> hyper_ch: I'm doing an upgrade from breezy to dapper (long story) and that's taking ages too, but not as long as that
[04:14] <hyper_ch> why to dapper?
[04:16] <grazie> it's old machine that I just got back...it had breezy ubuntu on it...got to upgrade in stages anyway...never used dapper before
[04:19] <hyper_ch> specs?
[04:20] <grazie> it's a B&W G3 350mhz 256mb ram
[04:39] <Howdy125> I upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and when I boot it stops at "usb 1-2 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" .. anyone know if this is fixable ?
[04:44] <Pumpernickel> Feisty support in #ubuntu+1.
[04:44] <hyper_ch> Pumpernickel: don't be so hard :(
[04:44] <Howdy125> Thanks Pumpernickel
[04:44] <Pumpernickel> What?  That's where people hang out who have more experience with Feisty's problems.
[05:02] <kj0ttdeig> anyone that can recommend some bluetooth software for xubuntu, so i can send and recieve pictures between my cell phone and the computer with a usb bluetooth dongle?
[05:06] <schlumpf-> hi im new to xubunto means no clue whatsever... I try to install my nvidia card i alredy did the following: download the driver from nvidia.com, downloaded linux-sources for my system and the libc6-dev
[05:07] <schlumpf-> but the error saying somethng about no kernel or something like it dident change
[05:07] <hyper_ch> schlumpf-: what nvidia card have you got?
[05:07] <schlumpf-> fx5200
[05:07] <schlumpf-> old
[05:07] <hyper_ch> sounds newer than mine
[05:08] <hyper_ch> is it supported by the current nvidia drivers or do you need the legacy ones?
[05:08] <schlumpf-> :)
[05:08] <brokenbin> how come my spell check in OOo doesn't work?
[05:08] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: maybe it's not enabled
[05:08] <schlumpf-> i think it should be supported but i wouldent know how to check :)
[05:08] <brokenbin> hyper_ch: i think it is, but every time i try to check, it shows no mistake
[05:08] <hyper_ch> !nvidia | schlumpf
[05:08] <ubotu> schlumpf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: have you the right dicionary installed?
[05:09] <brokenbin> hyper_ch: even when i deliberately leave mistakes
[05:09] <brokenbin> hyper_ch: how can you tell?
[05:09] <hyper_ch> I dunno
[05:09] <hyper_ch> check the installed dictonnaries
[05:10] <brokenbin> it works for you?
[05:10] <hyper_ch> yes
[05:12] <aug> is there a canonical way for configuring wpa_supplicant under xubuntu? I mean except for writing stuff into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[05:13] <hyper_ch> !wpa
[05:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:13] <aug> my problem is: i have configured everything and when running it manually, it works nicely
[05:13] <aug> yeah i mean .. that's for the gnome stuff, right?
[05:13] <hyper_ch> dunno
[05:13] <hyper_ch> I don't use encryption on my wifi
[05:13] <aug> the docs there say, use the configuring-wizard in gnome, it integrates wpa nicely ...
[05:14] <hyper_ch> then use that one
[05:14] <hyper_ch> or wifi-radar or something like that
[05:14] <aug> well .. that's for ubuntu (gnome), not xubuntu (xfce)
[05:14] <hyper_ch> aug: and where's the difference?
[05:14] <aug> the real point is I am looking for the point where the automation happens ..
[05:14] <aug> as in it comes up automatically on boot ..
[05:15] <aug> every distro does this in a different way ...
[05:15] <hyper_ch> *buntu is one distro :)
[05:15] <hyper_ch> just with different flavours
[05:15] <hyper_ch> the underlaying behaviour is all the same
[05:15] <aug> hmmmkay
[05:16] <hyper_ch> gnome and xfce use gtk2... kde does use qt
[05:16] <aug> so .. "do this automatically on boot" is to be found where? *scratches head*
[05:16] <hyper_ch> so running gnome appz in xfce does not load additional libraries as kde appz do
[05:16] <hyper_ch> I don't use encryption on my wifi
[05:25] <dooglus> I'm using xubuntu 6.06 and there's one window in the task list at the bottom of the screen that just won't stop flashing.
[05:25] <dooglus> is this a known bug?  and is there any way to stop it?
[05:25] <dooglus> it's so annoying
[05:26] <hyper_ch> what window?
[05:26] <dooglus> it's a gaim conversation window
[05:26] <hyper_ch> then close it
[05:27] <dooglus> it keeps reappearing whenever that person sends me a message
[05:27] <dooglus> I like that it flashes to tell me when there's a new message
[05:27] <dooglus> what I don't like is how it won't stop
[05:28] <dooglus> I've tried maximizing it, focusing it, moving it, etc
[05:28] <schlumpf-> hi what is the "kernel source tree" and how can i install it
[05:28] <hyper_ch> !nvidia
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:29] <hyper_ch> well, then change the settings in gaim that it shall not flash upon receiving a message
[05:31] <dooglus> that didn't seem to have any effect
[05:31] <dooglus> maybe those settings only apply to newly created windows - I'll wait and see...
[05:35] <_hairo> everytime I install xubuntu and then gnome, I loose the panel?  Anyone know how to fix this?
[05:48] <brokenbin> how do i install packages ignoring dependencies?
[05:48] <aug> ok, just found out .. this network-manager thing only works if the interface _isn't_ configured in /etc/network/interfaces .. live and learn ...
[05:50] <brokenbin> !nodep
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nodep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <brokenbin> !dependencies
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <brokenbin> !dependency
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <dooglus> brokenbin: do you have the .deb file?
[05:54] <dooglus> if so, "sudo dpkg -i --force-things all file.deb" might do what you want
[05:55] <brokenbin> dooglus: yes
[06:03] <brokenbin> dooglus: any idea why i can't install criawips?
[06:03] <dooglus> brokenbin: what happens when you try that dpkg command?
[06:04] <brokenbin> oh, it works
[06:04] <brokenbin> dooglus, but then the packages are broken
[06:04] <dooglus> that's not surprising
[06:05] <dooglus> you asked how to install it without installing the packages it needs to work
[06:05] <brokenbin> dooglus, the thing is, i have a newer version of libatk installed
[06:05] <brokenbin> but the package requires the older version
[06:05] <dooglus> brokenbin: apt-get should fix that automatically
[06:06] <dooglus> it will uninstall the new version and install the correct version of libatk - won't it?
[06:06] <brokenbin> http://pastebin.ca/428432
[06:06] <brokenbin> that's the output
[06:07] <dooglus> what's the input?
[06:07] <brokenbin> sudo apt-get install criawips
[06:08] <dooglus> sudo apt-get install libcriawips0
[06:08] <dooglus> what does that do?
[06:09] <brokenbin> libcriawips0: Depends: libgoffice-1-2 (>= 0.2.1) but it is not installable or
[06:09] <brokenbin>                          libgoffice-gtk-1-2 (>= 0.2.1) but it is not installable
[06:11] <brokenbin> dooglus: is there anyway to force apt?
[06:11] <dooglus> 	--force-yes
[06:11] <dooglus> 		Force yes;  This is a dangerous option  that will cause
[06:11] <dooglus> 		apt  to  continue  without  prompting if  it  is  doing
[06:11] <dooglus> 		something  potentially harmful.
[06:12] <dooglus> sudo apt-get install libgoffice-1-2
[06:12] <dooglus> ?
[06:12] <brokenbin> dooglus: i don't mind, scheduling a reinstall this afternoon anyways
[06:13] <brokenbin> Package libgoffice-1-2 has no installation candidate
[06:13] <dooglus> odd
[06:13] <dooglus> what version of xubuntu?
[06:14] <brokenbin> edgy
[06:14] <dooglus> libgoffice-1-2 is a dapper package
[06:14] <dooglus> have you mixed up your apt sources?
[06:14] <brokenbin> exactly
[06:14] <brokenbin> that's why, it's too new
[06:15] <brokenbin> i don't think so
[06:15] <dooglus> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:17] <brokenbin> http://pastebin.ca/428472
[06:18] <dooglus> that looks ok
[06:18] <dooglus> apt-cache policy libcriawips0
[06:18] <brokenbin> is there another presentation program that i can use?
[06:18] <brokenbin> except for OOo
[06:19] <dooglus> I don't know
[06:39] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: are you online?
[07:17] <schlumpf-> hi i installed my driver for nvidia but now its all messed up... the keyboard changed its layout from de to us also the m rendering is at 1000x700
[07:17] <schlumpf-> which is lowser than normal
[07:18] <schlumpf-> *lower
[07:22] <ormiret> schlumpf-: sounds like your xorg.conf got overwritten, edit it to put things back.
[07:23] <schlumpf-> edit to what
[07:23] <schlumpf-> i m just randomly hitting buttons
[07:25] <ormiret> The keyboard layout is in Sectio InputDevice with an identifier containign the word keyboard, there will be a line 'Option "XkbLayout" "us"', change the us to whatever layout you want to use.
[07:26] <schlumpf-> k and what about the limited pixel amoutn due to 1000x700 solution
[07:26] <schlumpf-> srz missing a word there
[07:26] <schlumpf-> y
[07:27] <ormiret> The resolution is in Section "Screen", there will be a collection of SubSection "Display", change the Modes there to the resolution you want
[07:28] <schlumpf-> k
[07:28] <schlumpf-> but one prob
[07:28] <schlumpf-> i can delete the us
[07:28] <schlumpf-> but he wont let me write
[07:29] <schlumpf-> how do i change it form read only to read and write
[07:30] <ormiret> You need more than user privs to edit xorg.conf. Start your editor with sudo or gksudo
[07:30] <schlumpf-> ah kk thx
[07:31] <schlumpf-> hm im in as root but nothing has changed
[07:32] <ormiret> you still can't make changes? What editor are you using?
[07:33] <schlumpf-> dont know just terminal vi xorg.conf
[07:34] <ormiret> yeah, I suspected that. vi is modal so you can't insert text without going into insert mode (I think you press i to get this)
[07:35] <ormiret> I'd recomend nano though for small changes unless you want to learn vi
[07:36] <schlumpf-> i dont care
[07:36] <schlumpf-> so just nano xorg.conf
[07:36] <schlumpf-> ?
[07:36] <ormiret> yes, don't forget the sudo
[07:36] <schlumpf-> kk
[07:37] <ormiret> You cna edit normally in nano and there are instructiona at the bottom of the screen for savign and exiting etc
[07:37] <schlumpf-> thanks very much
[07:37] <schlumpf-> for the changes to apply i need to reboot right_
[07:37] <schlumpf-> ?
[07:38] <rici> you just need to restart the xserver
[07:38] <rici> ctrl-alt-bksp
[07:38] <schlumpf-> k
[07:38] <ormiret> you just need to restart X, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' will do that, it will log you out though so save anything important first
[07:43] <schlumpf-> doesent just gdm do the job too?
[07:46] <spotted> Hello
[07:46] <spotted> I'm having this problem with Xubuntu, id est I get a heap load of compile errors...
[07:46] <spotted> with ati drivers
[07:47] <spotted>  m-a build fglrx
[07:47] <spotted> Things like this: /usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:208: error: expected declaration
[07:47] <spotted>   specifiers or ... before mlock
[07:48] <ormiret> Can you not use the xorg-driver-fglrx package instead of compiling yourself?
[07:48] <ormiret> If not patebin the full set of errors.
[07:48] <spotted> ormiret, I'd like to have composite support
[07:49] <spotted> ormiret, where are module-assistant's logs placed?
[07:50] <ormiret> Is there not composite support in the restricted driver?
[07:50] <ormiret> no idea where the logs are, I'd expect them to be in the build dir...
[08:02] <kj0ttdeig> anyone got flash working in opera on xubuntu?
[08:02] <kj0ttdeig> the package they link to on opera.com says "opera not supported" :S
[08:09] <Pumpernickel> Yeah, just install flashplugin-nonfree.  The plugin will be placed or linked to in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which should be in Opera's pluginpath.ini.
[08:09] <Pumpernickel> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:09] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:25] <kj0ttdeig> it works :)
[08:25] <kj0ttdeig> thanks again, Pumpernickel
[08:26] <Pumpernickel> np
[08:26] <Dan4> hello I need some help with the cpp 4.1 package, it broke while I was installing gpp 4.1.base and now it says to run sudo apt-get install -f, but when I do that it trys to remove >400Mb of packages, including system stuff
[08:27] <makuseru> how do you pronounce xubunutu?
[08:27] <Pumpernickel> What happens if you try to remove/reinstall the 'borken' package?
[08:27] <Dan4> it trys to remove other stuff
[08:27] <Pumpernickel> ksubuntu
[08:27] <Pumpernickel> err, broken, even
[08:27] <makuseru> "ksubuntu"?
[08:28] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[08:28] <makuseru> i figured it would be "zubuntu" but i wasnt sure
[08:28] <Dan4> if I try reinstalling or removing it asks to remove almost every package on the systen
[08:28] <Pumpernickel> Dan4: Is it just missing a dependency?  Installing that would probably be easiest.
[08:29] <Dan4> those 2 files have all dependencies
[08:29] <Pumpernickel> It's the 'x' from 'xfce', so I use the 'ks' sound for it.  No idea if it's official in any way.
[08:30] <Pumpernickel> Dan4: If they have all their deps, then which package is broken?
[08:31] <Dan4> but midway thrugh gpp 4.1.base it gave an error. the packages that are broken are cpp 4.1, gcc 4.1, libgcc1, and libstdc++6
[08:33] <Pumpernickel> What was the error?
[08:33] <Dan4> broken dependencies
[08:34] <Pumpernickel> What was the error message?
[08:34] <Dan4> the whole thing?
[08:36] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[08:36] <Pumpernickel> If it's very long, you should pastebin it.
[08:36] <Pumpernickel> !paste
[08:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <Dan4> Broken dependencies your system has broken dependencies. this program cannot continue until this is fixed. to fix run 'sudo synaptic' or 'sudo apt-get install -f' in a terminal window
[08:37] <Dan4> and doing this asks me to uninstall most of the packages on my system
[08:40] <Dan4> including video drivers, firefox, open office, etc.
[08:41] <Pumpernickel> Were you installing cpp et al through apt, or more manually using dpkg on individual packages?
[08:42] <Dan4> I didn't touch the CPP package at all
[08:44] <Dan4> it broke while installing another package
[08:50] <Dan4> and if it is important, recently I have been getting errors on startup relating to the file system
[08:51] <Pumpernickel> That's quite possible - weird things happen when you get disk or fs failures.
[08:53] <Dan4> the error was: fsck died with exit status 8
[08:53] <Dan4> file system check failed
[08:53] <Dan4> then it made a log and starts a matnence shell
[09:00] <Dan4> is there any program I can use to check the drive integrety? I know my windows 95 bootdisk won't work
[09:03] <makuseru> i think my xubuntu insall is stuck, its at "select and install software" 65% "Configuring anthy" what can i do?
[09:06] <makuseru> nevermind, it just took along time
[09:17] <Dan4> what is the linux equivilent of scandisk?
[09:22] <kumamoto> Dan4: u say fsck failed ? is the normal bootup drive check or is this after a the password required part?
[09:25] <Dan4> before the login it failed
[09:25] <Dan4> during bootup
[09:26] <kumamoto> Dan4: can u get your system into single usermode
[09:26] <Dan4> I can still get on it by pressing control + d
[09:26] <makuseru> can you get rid of synaptic and use adept in xubuntu?
[09:27] <Dan4> how?
[09:27] <Dan4> I am not very experienced
[09:28] <kumamoto> Dan4: what mode are u in right now gui or console login prompt?
[09:28] <Dan4> GUI
[09:28] <Dan4> I have auto-login on
[09:29] <makuseru> can you get rid of synaptic and use adept in xubuntu?
[09:29] <Dan4> how would I do that
[09:29] <makuseru> im not telling you what to do
[09:30] <Dan4> I don't know because I didn't even know it can be removed
[09:30] <makuseru> no
[09:30] <makuseru> i mean im not talkign to you
[09:30] <makuseru> im asking for help
[09:30] <Dan4> oh
[09:30] <kumamoto> Ok do a ctrl+atl+f2
[09:31] <Dan4> ok
[09:31] <kumamoto> makuseru: I bet u can manually using aptitude
[09:31] <kumamoto> what do u get
[09:31] <makuseru> kumamoto: so what? sudo aptitude install apt-get?
[09:32] <Dan4> I have a command screen asking for  my login
[09:32] <kumamoto> Dan4: login
[09:33] <kumamoto> makuseru:
[09:33] <Dan4> root or user account?
[09:33] <kumamoto> makuseru: try sudo aptitude install adept then remove synaptic
[09:34] <kumamoto> Dan4: the usual user account and password
[09:34] <Dan4> ok, logged in to my non- root account now
[09:34] <makuseru> kumamoto: i got it all done, but its reading my sources from a CD, how do i give it a normal sources.list?
[09:35] <kumamoto> makuseru: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <kumamoto> Dan4: sudo init 1
[09:35] <kumamoto> Dan4: let me know how that goes
[09:35] <makuseru> last time i installed thats all was in there, the CD lines, ill check this time tho
[09:36] <kumamoto> makuseru: don't remove it just comment it out
[09:36] <kumamoto> or comment it if I have confused u enough
[09:37] <makuseru> no, i mean last time there was nothing in there but the CD lines
[09:37] <makuseru> the rest was blank
[09:39] <Dan4> kumamoto: it said the following: init: rc1 process (4284) killed by signal 15. give root password for matenence(or type control-d to continue): then I entered my password
[09:39] <kumamoto> makuseru: synaptic will provide some of the sources
[09:39] <kumamoto> Dan4: are u now in
[09:40] <Dan4> I am root@ubuntu:~#
[09:40] <kumamoto> makuseru: i don't have synaptic right now to direct u so forgive me for that
[09:40] <kumamoto> Dan4: ok
[09:40] <kumamoto> Dan4: df -h
[09:41] <kumamoto> how many partitions are mounted
[09:41] <makuseru> there all telling me "remporary failure"
[09:41] <Dan4> I got 6 results
[09:42] <kumamoto> makuseru: u need it to be networked
[09:42] <kumamoto> makuseru: or some dns should working for u r system
[09:42] <kumamoto> Dan4: umount -a
[09:42] <kumamoto> then run the df command again
[09:43] <Dan4> 2 were buisy
[09:43] <Dan4> 3 results this time
[09:44] <kumamoto> which ones are mounted
[09:44] <makuseru> kumamoto: im on the internet
[09:45] <Dan4> wait a second, Mirc thought it was a command
[09:45] <kumamoto> makuseru: dns working good?
[09:45] <makuseru> what is dns
[09:45] <kumamoto> makuseru: domain name resolution
[09:46] <Dan4> "/dev/hda1, procbususb, udev"
[09:46] <kumamoto> makuseru: should be listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:46] <kumamoto> Dan4: ok
[09:47] <makuseru> well, im not on the net
[09:47] <makuseru> how do i set it up? never had to do this before
[09:47] <kumamoto> Dan4:when u df what partition is mount as /dev/hda1
[09:47] <kumamoto> makuseru: what do u have in that file
[09:47] <makuseru> lemme check, hang on
[09:48] <Dan4> well it is the largest one, I assume first but not sure
[09:48] <kumamoto> Dan4: is / or /boot
[09:48] <Dan4> it is /
[09:48] <makuseru> kumamoto: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <makuseru> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>***
[09:49] <kumamoto> makuseru: also check out http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[09:49] <gerbil_juice> quick question, what music player for linux comes the closest to replicating itunes? i tried using amarok but was unable to figure it out, and rhythmbox wouldn't work.
[09:49] <kumamoto> makuseru: does it help in resolving domains from the internet say google.com
[09:50] <kumamoto> makuseru: dig google.com
[09:50] <kumamoto> Dan4: ok run this command mount -f -o remount,ro /dev/hda1
[09:50] <kumamoto> Dan4: let me know if u get errors from it
[09:50] <Jester45> gerbil_juice, what are you tring to get just music playback? or ipod useablity
[09:50] <gerbil_juice> music playback
[09:51] <gerbil_juice> mostly, although if it syncs to my ipod that's a bonus
[09:51] <makuseru> kumamoto: i cant do that
[09:51] <makuseru> its not on the internet
[09:51] <kumamoto> makuseru: bingo
[09:51] <Jester45> gerbil_juice, well ipods i found out are easier to use with gtkpod
[09:51] <kumamoto> makuseru: source list need the internet
[09:51] <Dan4> kumamoto: no errors
[09:52] <kumamoto> Dan4: nice
[09:52] <kumamoto> Dan4: what is the size of your drive
[09:52] <Jester45> gerbil_juice, what problems did you have with amork i use that mostly
[09:52] <Dan4> umm, 4GB
[09:52] <kumamoto> Dan4: ah
[09:52] <makuseru> i cant get it on the internet
[09:53] <gerbil_juice> jester: well it loaded all my music from my folder, and i have the restricted formats all installed, but i couldn't get any music to play in amarok
[09:53] <makuseru> i said that a second ago
[09:53] <kumamoto> Dan4: for your drive intergrity, checks and file system structure corrections run this
[09:53] <kumamoto> Dan4: fsck -y -f;reboot
[09:53] <Jester45> gerbil_juice, do you have sounds working on your computer?
[09:53] <kumamoto> then chill out for a min or so
[09:53] <Dan4> kumamoto:ok wait a minute
[09:53] <Jester45> gerbil_juice, is armok looking like its playing
[09:54] <makuseru> kumamoto: how can i get it on the net?
[09:54] <gerbil_juice> jester: sound works, everything works, amarok just didn't
[09:54] <gerbil_juice> jester: double clicking songs or anything didn't work. it would hangup when trying to make playlists, also.
[09:54] <kumamoto> makuseru: get it connected to the internet
[09:55] <kumamoto> makuseru: or do u mean how to get it connected to the internet?
[09:55] <makuseru> yes
[09:55] <makuseru> how do i set it up
[09:55] <makuseru> it shows im connected to my network
[09:55] <makuseru> but FF wont connect to anything
[09:55] <Dan4> kumamoto:got an error
[09:55] <snarfer> Hello, I'm trying to install Xubuntu on my external hard drive, and I've already set up the swap and main partitionss
[09:56] <kumamoto> Dan4: what error?
[09:56] <Dan4> it just rebooted, too late
[09:56] <snarfer> Now, when I try to select a /, I keep getting "no root partition selected"
[09:56] <kumamoto> Dan4: when it boots up at the grub prompt hit escape
[09:57] <kumamoto> then u should in the grub kernel list
[09:57] <kumamoto> let me know when u get there
[09:57] <Dan4> ok wait a minute
[09:57] <kumamoto> makuseru: are u behind a NAT/firewall or some kind routing device?
[09:57] <makuseru> no
[09:58] <Dan4> kumamoto:ok i'm in
[09:58] <kumamoto> so how are connected to your network
[09:58] <makuseru> just through my router
[09:58] <kumamoto> Dan4: in the grub kernel router
[09:58] <kumamoto> Dan4: in the grub kernel lists
[09:58] <Dan4> kumamoto:yes, there are 5 options
[09:59] <kumamoto> ok choose the first one
[09:59] <snarfer> Anyone?
[09:59] <Jester456> gerbil_juice, also you can try audacious or songbird
[10:00] <kumamoto> if the installer has detected the drive then choose it when asked to format the drive
[10:00] <Dan4> kumamoto:i'm in the usual screen with the file system error, should I enter the matnence shell or continue?
[10:01] <kumamoto> Dan4: yes
[10:01] <Dan4> yes continue or yes enter the shell
[10:01] <kumamoto> enter shell
[10:01] <Dan4> ok
[10:02] <Dan4> kumamoto:i'm in
[10:03] <kumamoto> Dan4: run the same command without the reboot also make sure / is read only
[10:03] <kumamoto> before running fsck\
[10:03] <kumamoto> yeah
[10:03] <Dan4> kumamoto:how do I make / read only?
[10:04] <kumamoto> don't run fsck on a read write / partition
[10:04] <Dan4> the / partition is the boot partition, and data partition
[10:05] <Dan4> it takes 3.9Gb of my 4.2Gb
[10:05] <kumamoto> yes
[10:05] <Dan4> wouldn't it be writable and not read only?
[10:06] <kumamoto> try making it read only for now
[10:06] <Dan4> how?
[10:06] <kumamoto> mount -f -o remount,ro /dev/hda /
[10:06] <kumamoto> hda1
[10:06] <Dan4> oh that is what that does
[10:07] <kumamoto> yup
[10:09] <Dan4> ok did that then did the fsck command
[10:09] <kumamoto> what options did u use with fsck?
[10:10] <Dan4> got the file system error again, it is now telling me this may cause damage on a mounted file system and if I want to continue
[10:10] <Dan4> same options as before
[10:10] <kumamoto> what is the ouput of this command 'mount'
[10:11] <Dan4> just mount?
[10:11] <kumamoto> yup
[10:11] <Dan4> 9 results
[10:12] <kumamoto> again umount all 'umount -a'
[10:12] <kumamoto> then run the remount thing and then run fsck -y -f
[10:13] <Dan4> all unmounted but 3 because they were buisy
[10:13] <snarfer> http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture68ti8.jpg http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture69io7.jpg
[10:13] <snarfer> Blarg
[10:14] <kumamoto> ok now remount into readonly again
[10:15] <Dan4> gives me a message stating that continuing on a mounted filesystem may cause severe damage
[10:15] <Dan4> oh, I'll remount then
[10:17] <Dan4> ok mounted as RO
[10:20] <kj0ttdeig> is there a command/syntax that refers to the filename of a selected file, for use in custom "open with" commands?
[10:20] <kumamoto> Dan4: anything new
[10:20] <Dan4> want me to run the fsck one now?
[10:21] <kumamoto> ya what were u waiting
[10:21] <kumamoto> for lol
[10:21] <Dan4> says that doing this on the mounted filesystem may cause damage, should I continue?
[10:22] <kumamoto> hell continue it could be just a default message that shows up even with the system is in readonly now
[10:23] <Dan4> fixing lots of stuff
[10:23] <kumamoto> and also because u r running it with a -y -f
[10:23] <kumamoto> brb need a puff
[10:23] <Dan4> k
[10:24] <Dan4> woah, fixed thousands of things
[10:31] <Dan4> rebooted, hmm this is odd
[10:31] <kumamoto> Dan4: what is odd
[10:32] <Dan4> doesn't load GUI and says it is ubuntu 6.10 (none) tty1
[10:33] <kumamoto> login and run startx
[10:33] <Dan4> I can't login
[10:33] <Dan4> doesn't accept username
[10:34] <kumamoto> Dan4: error?
[10:34] <Dan4> login incorrect
[10:35] <kumamoto> damn go back to single usermode and run the passwd command
[10:35] <kumamoto> this isn't supposed to happen
[10:35] <Dan4> how can I do that
[10:36] <kumamoto> simple way is ctrl+Alt+Del and do the esc when prompted to into the grub list
[10:38] <Dan4> CTRL ALT DELETE causes an endless loop saying cannot access password database
[10:39] <kumamoto> ok just reboot it
[10:39] <kumamoto> manuallyh
[10:39] <kumamoto> manually
[10:40] <Dan4> ok I'm in the grub menu
[10:40] <kumamoto> select the first grub don't hit enter just yet
[10:41] <Dan4> ok done
[10:41] <kumamoto> hit 'e'
[10:41] <Dan4> done
[10:41] <kumamoto> line after root(hd0,0)
[10:42] <kumamoto> select
[10:42] <Dan4> the kernal one
[10:42] <kumamoto> yah
[10:42] <Dan4> ok selected, enter?
[10:42] <kumamoto> no
[10:42] <kumamoto> not yet
[10:43] <Dan4> ok
[10:44] <kumamoto> use your right arrow key (->) go to the end of the line 'space' then type single
[10:44] <Dan4> want me to push E first?
[10:46] <kumamoto> yah
[10:46] <kumamoto> wait
[10:46] <kumamoto> once u r one the kernel line use to right arrow and go to the end of the kernel line
[10:46] <snarfer> Crap
[10:46] <snarfer> Ubiquity crashed
[10:47] <snarfer> D:
[10:47] <Dan4> so push E thn go to the end of the line?
[10:47] <Dan4> and add single
[10:48] <kumamoto> no e when u c the root and kernel lines
[10:48] <Dan4> I can't edit it
[10:48] <kumamoto> what
[10:48] <Dan4> nothing happens when I push the right arrow
[10:48] <kumamoto> on the kernel line?
[10:48] <Dan4> yes
[10:49] <kumamoto> what does the kernel line read
[10:49] <kumamoto> type the whole thing
[10:51] <Dan4> kernal /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off qu->
[10:53] <kumamoto> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off single
[10:53] <kumamoto> that is how it should look like
[10:53] <kumamoto> single should be at the very end
[10:53] <Dan4> it continues after qu, but it is cut off
[10:54] <Dan4> and right arrow doewsn't work
[10:55] <kumamoto> and right arrow doesn't beyond qu
[10:55] <Dan4> right arrow does nothing
[10:56] <kumamoto> ok try deleting the line from qu back to acpi
[10:56] <Dan4> how
[10:56] <kumamoto> leave ro alone
[10:56] <kumamoto> use backspace
[10:56] <kumamoto> it is like editing using notepad
[10:56] <Dan4> backspace does nothing
[10:57] <Dan4> is there something I need to press to edit it?
[10:57] <Dan4> enter maybe?
[10:57] <kumamoto> wait am min
[10:57] <kumamoto> when u select the line hit enter
[10:57] <kumamoto> and what is does
[10:58] <Dan4> enter does nothing
[10:58] <kumamoto> hit escape
[10:58] <kumamoto> where are u now
[10:59] <Dan4> the main menu with 5 options
[10:59] <kumamoto> ok try again select the first kernel hit e
[10:59] <kumamoto> 'e'
[11:00] <Dan4> ok done
[11:00] <kumamoto> now what u c
[11:00] <Dan4> 5 optins, first is root (hd0,0)
[11:00] <Dan4> second I said
[11:01] <hyper_ch> so, dm-crypt runs finally :)
[11:01] <kumamoto> second is ?
[11:01] <Dan4> oh wait 6 options
[11:02] <Dan4> second is kernal
[11:02] <Dan4> third is initrd
[11:02] <Dan4> fourth is quiet
[11:02] <kumamoto> select kernel
[11:02] <Dan4> fifth is savedefault
[11:02] <kumamoto> ok
[11:02] <Dan4> done
[11:03] <kumamoto> hit 'e' again
[11:03] <Dan4> ok says  < acpi=off quiet
[11:03] <Dan4> add single?
[11:05] <kumamoto> now remove quiet acpi by using 'backspace'
[11:05] <kumamoto> and then add single after 'ro'
[11:06] <Dan4> ACPI must be there, otherwise some problems with power management
[11:06] <kumamoto> don't worry about it for now the change isn't permanent
[11:07] <Dan4> well it crashes if it trys to do any power related stuff
[11:09] <Dan4> and if I remember correctlycan't boot right without it
[11:09] <kumamoto> ok if u insist leave acpi n
[11:09] <Dan4> ok press ESC now?
[11:10] <kumamoto> no
[11:10] <kumamoto> hit enter
[11:10] <Dan4> ok done
[11:10] <Morphius> Is there a livecd available?
[11:10] <snarfer> Yes
[11:11] <Morphius> Where can I find it?  Is it just the install CD as well?
[11:11] <snarfer> !download
[11:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:11] <kumamoto> Morphius: what live cd?
[11:11] <snarfer> Sigh
[11:11] <snarfer> xubuntu.org/get
[11:13] <Morphius> Thanks.
[11:14] <kumamoto> Dan4: where u at now?
[11:15] <Dan4> kernal is selected
[11:16] <kumamoto> hit 'b'
[11:17] <snarfer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu?highlight=%28xubuntu%29
[11:17] <snarfer> I'm trying to run Xubuntu with a virtualization program (VMWare)
[11:17] <Dan4> endlessly looping cannot open password database
[11:17] <spotted> Does anyone know if there's a beta of ati drivers 8.36?
[11:17] <snarfer> And I can't seem to install from the commandline
[11:17] <spotted> I wanna enable the transparency in xfce
[11:17] <spotted> :((
[11:19] <hyper_ch> snarfer: you want to install vmware in xubuntu?
[11:19] <snarfer> Nooo...
[11:19] <kumamoto> Dan4: wassup?
[11:19] <Dan4> other way around
[11:19] <snarfer> I want to install Xbuntu via VMWare
[11:19] <Dan4> kumamoto, still looping
[11:20] <snarfer> And I'm not presented with the option for text-only
[11:20] <hyper_ch> snarfer: ???
[11:20] <hyper_ch> what option?
[11:20] <snarfer> INstall in text-only mode
[11:20] <snarfer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu?highlight=%28xubuntu%29
[11:21] <kumamoto> Dan4: what is saying atm
[11:21] <hyper_ch> snarfer: what version did you download?
[11:21] <snarfer> 6.10 desktop
[11:21] <snarfer> i686
[11:21] <Dan4> kumamoto:it is a few sentence message that keeps repeating, want me to say it
[11:22] <spotted> How do I tell xfce to run a file on startup?
[11:22] <spotted> I need to start .Xmodmap each time X starts
[11:22] <kumamoto> Dan4: it would be helpful might have seen the error before
[11:22] <snarfer> That has to do with cron
[11:22] <snarfer> I think
[11:22] <Dan4> ok wait a minute
[11:23] <hyper_ch> desktop has not text-install if I remember correctly
[11:23] <Dan4> the message changed
[11:23] <snarfer> Ah
[11:23] <hyper_ch> spotted: applicatiosn --> settings --> autostarted applicatiosn
[11:24] <hyper_ch> snarfer: the desktop cd is the live cd :)
[11:24] <spotted> hyper_ch, is adding xmodmap in .xinitrc a good idea?
[11:24] <snarfer> I figured
[11:24] <hyper_ch> spotted: no clue
[11:24] <hyper_ch> spotted: don't even know what it is
[11:24] <spotted> gonna try
[11:24] <spotted> thx
[11:24] <spotted> exit
[11:24] <snarfer> The installer keeps crashing on me
[11:24] <snarfer> What the hell?
[11:24] <hyper_ch> snarfer: try the alternate one
[11:25] <snarfer> There's an alternate?
[11:25] <hyper_ch> it's better for installation
[11:25] <hyper_ch> snarfer: yes there is
[11:25] <snarfer> Where?
[11:25] <Dan4> the system has reached a state where there are no jobs running. a shell will be spawned so that you may start such jobs that are neccisary. type 'exit' when finished. sulogin: cannot open password database!
[11:26] <hyper_ch> snarfer: from the xubuntu site
[11:27] <hyper_ch> snarfer: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[11:27] <snarfer> I have it
[11:28] <snarfer> I've been trying to install it
[11:28] <snarfer> How do I try to install something if I don't have the CD
[11:28] <hyper_ch> !installation
[11:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:28] <hyper_ch> there are various ways
[11:30] <n-iCe> hi i installed xubuntu but works slower than windows xp ?
[11:30] <n-iCe> what can i do to make it lighter? the problem is when i open and close windows launch programs etc...
[11:32] <kumamoto> Dan4: you system was really screwed up
[11:32] <Dan4> I see that
[11:32] <kumamoto> Dan4: we will try one more thing
[11:32] <Dan4> it is a quite old machine
[11:32] <kumamoto> Dan4: go back and do the grub thing again
[11:32] <Dan4> k
[11:33] <kumamoto> and let me know when u get to edit the kernel line
[11:33] <Dan4> ok I am in
[11:34] <snarfer> Ahhhhh
[11:34] <snarfer> I don't think my external is on my MBR
[11:35] <kumamoto> Dan4: u on the line
[11:35] <n-iCe> what can i do to make it lighter? the problem is when i open and close windows launch programs etc...
[11:35] <n-iCe> i installed xubuntu but works slower than windows xp ?
[11:36] <Dan4> I'm here
[11:36] <Dan4> and I am ready to edit it
[11:36] <kumamoto> n-iCe: what is you load when running programs
[11:36] <n-iCe> nothing
[11:36] <kumamoto> hit 'e'
[11:36] <n-iCe> i just installed it
[11:36] <kumamoto> as usuall
[11:36] <Dan4> on my computer xubuntu runs faster because it is so old
[11:37] <kumamoto> ready
[11:37] <Dan4> Ok I pressed e
[11:37] <kumamoto> u r now in edit mode right
[11:37] <Dan4> yes
[11:37] <kumamoto> ok instead of single enter init=/bin/bash
[11:38] <kumamoto> once u r done hit enter then 'b'
[11:39] <Dan4> ok something diferent happened
[11:41] <kumamoto> what?
[11:41] <Dan4> it says /usr/bin/groups: 69: id: not found. next line says I have no name!@(none):/#
[11:42] <Dan4> can I run commands here?
[11:42] <kumamoto> now that isn't good /usr/bin/groups is a system essential file
[11:43] <kumamoto> Dan4: we have to mount proc before we can do anything
[11:43] <Dan4> well i can typestuff
[11:44] <kumamoto> mount -t proc /dev/proc
[11:44] <Dan4> can we make a new groups file
[11:44] <kumamoto> Dan4: it is an executable that had some script in it i don't think an empty file will do it
[11:45] <Dan4> some letters won't work
[11:45] <Dan4> I can't type M
[11:45] <Dan4> or U
[11:45] <Dan4> and a few others
[11:45] <kumamoto> 'm'?
[11:45] <Dan4> yeah
[11:45] <kumamoto> damn how screwed up is u r system
[11:45] <Dan4> I have no idea
[11:46] <snarfer> No Xubuntu Bittorrent links D:
[11:46] <Dan4> it worked fine before
[11:46] <kumamoto> can't type shit is that what u r saying
[11:46] <Dan4> can type 4/5 of letters
[11:47] <kumamoto> Dan4: when it comes to that point you can either use a live cd to run a ful fsck on the drive or perform a complete OS reload
[11:47] <Dan4> I can reload I suppose, but only to FAT32
[11:48] <Dan4> I don;t have a linux bootdisk
[11:48] <Dan4> just a win95 one
[11:49] <Dan4> do you reccommend reinstalling linux or reinstalling windows on it? I don't want this again
[11:50] <kumamoto> what did u use to install xubuntu
[11:50] <Dan4> a CD
[11:50] <Dan4> I think
[11:50] <kumamoto> that CD is a live cd too
[11:51] <Dan4> I can't power off!
[11:51] <Dan4> it gives a message onscreen when I push the button
[11:51] <kumamoto> hold the power button down for a few secs
[11:52] <Dan4> it says a program is trying to access hardware directly
[11:52] <snarfer> I wished the Xubuntu mirrors were faster
[11:52] <Dan4> no matter how long held
[11:52] <snarfer> *sigh*
[11:52] <n-iCe> how can i make my xubuntu faster
[11:54] <Dan4> hmm how did I install it the first time, I forgot, I can't boot from CD
[11:55] <Dan4> oh nvm I found the cd boot option
[11:55] <kumamoto> Dan4: don't know man u need to work that out at the same time try running some drive diagnostic on your drive
[11:55] <Dan4> I can scandisk it when I format it
[11:56] <kumamoto> I won't trust windows apps for such a job use go the drive manufactures site and download their diagnotic tools
[11:57] <Dan4> the drive is a bit old for that
[11:57] <kumamoto> hey doesn't matter
[11:57] <kumamoto> It would come handy for other drives
[11:58] <Dan4> it is a fujitsu limited
[11:58] <kumamoto> Dan4: whatever works for u
[11:58] <kumamoto> whatever makes it comfortable for u
[11:59] <Dan4> I'll take a look but I don't know if they offer it
[12:01] <Dan4> oh I found it, I think I will run both to make sure
[12:02] <kumamoto> Dan4: nice
[12:05] <Dan4> hmm their exe is corrupt
[12:06] <n-iCe> brb
[12:13] <Dan4> ok low level formatting, I think I can take it from here thanks for the help
[12:13] <Dan4> and I am reinstalling xubuntu btw
[12:18] <kumamoto> Dan4: good luck


[00:17] <Unit193> rbasak: Ah crap, thought about pinging you but it was too early.  Now it's too late.
[21:44] <Unit193> rbasak: Thanks!


[17:18] <nate`> anyone around?
[18:52] <kwadronaut> nate`: best to phrase your question, and not just ask for asking.
[19:17] <nate`> what's wrong with this? http://pastebin.com/PQrZp8R9
[19:17] <nate`> RHEL uses 0.7.1 for it's cloud init on the RHEL provided AMIs.  When using chef: portions from the examples the log dumps out that it can't figure out any cheffyness or puppeteering.
[19:18] <nate`> well other than the -0 that was a typo that I fixed and ran another instance.
[19:27] <nate`> http://pastebin.com/XCz1ndSw is the one without the typos.
[19:30] <nate`> http://pastebin.com/tnBecZk8 is the output of /latest/user-data
[20:54] <nate`> also here's the error when using the chef: directives: http://pastebin.com/gtM22x2R
[21:02] <nate`> Final question someone might answer for me.  Is there any decent way to test cloud init scripts without having to fire up a new ami every time?
[21:19] <harmw> cloud-init --bla from inside the instance?
[21:20] <harmw> and rm -rf /var/lib/cloud
[21:26] <nate`> screw it on the using the yaml stuff.  shell scripts it is.
[21:34] <harlowja> woot, smoser other branch not needed, tim got approved by legal
[23:58] <swaT30> hey guys, any particular reason that CentOS hosts would be getting a <IP_ADDRESS> route to eth0, while Ubuntu hosts are not? Seems the route breaks metadata on neutron/quantum