[00:00] <bjsnider> if you're on ati you probably should use the radeon driver
[00:00] <jeremiah_> ya but i can tell that my graphics card is not working its hardest
[00:00] <jeremiah_> bjsnider, i am trying to.
[00:00] <bjsnider> what's wrong with it?
[00:01] <jeremiah_> bjsnider, nothing. it is just not working its hardest
[00:01] <mcdonc> how can you tell
[00:01] <bjsnider> no idea what that means
[00:01] <alexisd> jeremiah_,  works hard, but no hard enought :)
[00:02] <alexisd> what card you have?
[00:02] <jeremiah_> exactly.
[00:02] <jeremiah_> one everyone hates
[00:02] <alexisd> ATi ?
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> jeremiah_: glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version'
[00:02] <jeremiah_> ati radeon
[00:02] <alexisd> model ?
[00:03] <jeremiah_> not sure...
[00:05] <alexisd> jeremiah_, did jockey dound it?
[00:06] <jeremiah_> no
[00:07] <alexisd> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[00:07] <alexisd> use this
[00:08] <jeremiah_> use what on it?
[00:09] <alexisd> don;t u know how to add repos?
[00:10] <jeremiah_> no
[00:11] <alexisd> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[00:11] <nimrod10> hi all , how do I run something in rc.local in precise ? It seem like precise's startup system is ignoring rc.local
[00:12] <alexisd> but before you do this do sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[00:13] <alexisd> after you do this run sudp apt-get upgrade
[00:13] <alexisd> sudo*
[00:13] <alexisd> and try again jockey
[00:14] <alexisd> if ur system is unstable or something, run sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[00:14] <alexisd> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:15] <alexisd> basically this ppa, will install you the latest xorg and drivers
[00:15] <alexisd> but it could be unstable
[00:15] <alexisd> so with sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa you unistall it
[00:16] <jeremiah_> ok. hang on. working on it...
[00:17] <alexisd> good luck :)
[00:18] <nimrod10> where is there any documentation on precise's boot sequence on the desktop ? It is ignoring my rc.local entry
[00:26] <jeremiah_> there still is nothing in there
[00:27] <jeremiah_> alexisd, there is still nothing there
[00:28] <alexisd> jeremiah_,  you use ubuntu 12.04 and you sure have ATi ?
[00:28] <jeremiah_> yes. but do you want to give me a command to make sure?
[00:29] <jeremiah_> for driver
[00:29] <jeremiah_> err graphics card
[00:30] <alexisd> glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version'
[00:30] <jeremiah_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[00:31] <jeremiah_> lol
[00:31] <alexisd> glxinfo ?
[00:31] <alexisd> aa ok
[00:31] <alexisd> w8
[00:31] <jeremiah_> so da command??
[00:32] <alexisd> jeremiah_,  open software center
[00:33] <jeremiah_> ok
[00:33] <jeremiah_> ...
[00:33] <alexisd> write on search ATi
[00:34] <alexisd> it should show you the drivers to install
[00:34] <alexisd> but be sure you have ATi :)
[00:34] <alexisd> it should say something like ATi binary xorg drivers or something
[00:35] <jeremiah_> ATI binary X.Org driver? i have it..
[00:35] <alexisd> install it
[00:35] <alexisd> you have a new pc or old ?
[00:35] <jeremiah_> it is installed.
[00:35] <alexisd> I see
[00:35] <alexisd> so whats the problem ?
[00:35] <jeremiah_> uh.... medium rare
[00:36] <alexisd> what ?
[00:36] <jeremiah_> I would like to be able to change the graphics and stuff. and my laptop is medium new old.
[00:37] <alexisd> can you find catalyst center on ur programs?
[00:38] <jeremiah_> in software center? i have one of them...
[00:38] <alexisd> I mean on installed programs
[00:38] <alexisd> you have unity ?
[00:38] <jeremiah_> idontknow
[00:38] <alexisd> haha is ur first ubuntu installation ?
[00:40] <jeremiah_> no. 7th. linux has died for me many times and that is why i want to get a graphics driver, someone said that could be the problem.
[00:41] <Belial`> jeremiah_, you're trying to set the effects, correct?
[00:41] <alexisd> sudo apt-get install glxinfo
[00:41] <alexisd> Belial`, I guess he hasnt 3d accel
[00:41] <Belial`> ah
[00:41] <jeremiah_> Belial`, yes
[00:42] <alexisd> Belial`, you have ATi ?
[00:42] <Belial`> no, but try this real quick, jeremiah_
[00:43] <Belial`> invoke the dash by pressing the "super" key.
[00:43] <Belial`> (the key with the windows logo)
[00:43] <Belial`> then type in "drivers"
[00:43] <Belial`> i'm assuming he's unity 2d of course...
[00:45] <jeremiah_> next...
[00:45] <Belial`> ok, click on additional drivers
[00:45] <Belial`> let it search for the drivers, might take a sec.
[00:45] <jeremiah_> it has none.
[00:45] <Belial`> what kind of card is it?
[00:46] <Belial`> what kind of ati, rather
[00:46] <jeremiah_> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[00:46] <jeremiah_> redion
[00:46] <Belial`> open the dash once more
[00:46] <Belial`> type in "information" then click on "details"
[00:47] <Belial`> go to graphics and tell me what it says.
[00:47] <jeremiah_> unknown
[00:47] <Belial`> that's odd.
[00:47] <jeremiah_> this was a windows lappy till the hdd was removed
[00:47] <Belial`> do you know which radeon card it is?
[00:48] <jeremiah_> and i didn't want to spend $300plus on windows.
[00:48] <jeremiah_> I do not know
[00:48] <Belial`> open a terminal and type "lspci"
[00:49] <Belial`> paste what the VGA controller line says.
[00:49] <jeremiah_> ahhh thats what the command was that i was looking for all day!
[00:49] <jeremiah_> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300]
[00:50] <Belial`> that's odd because the opensource driver should be working fine for you.
[00:50] <jbicha> you'd need to install mesa-demos for the Details panel to show your graphics card, that's bug 914631
[00:50] <jeremiah_> it never had in the last 6 linuxes i had
[00:50] <Belial`> ah, ok jbicha
[00:50] <jeremiah_> command...
[00:50] <penguin42> jeremiah_: When you say it dies on you - how does it fail?
[00:50] <jeremiah_> it stops booting.
[00:51] <penguin42> at what point?
[00:51] <jbicha> *mesa-utils
[00:51] <jeremiah_> after it freezes a hole bunch. 4 new hdds were tested.
[00:51] <jeremiah_> *mesa-utils: command not found
[00:52] <Belial`> jeremiah_, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[00:53] <penguin42> jeremiah_: When does it say that?
[00:53] <jeremiah_> pray this works.
[00:53] <jeremiah_> i think i already had it...
[00:53] <Belial`> it'll tell you if it's already installed
[00:54] <Belial`> mesa-utils is already the newest version.
[00:54] <jeremiah_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 593 not upgraded.
[00:54] <jeremiah_> it also said that
[00:54] <Belial`> ok, here's the next question...
[00:55] <Belial`> at the login screen, is "ubuntu" selected or something else?
[00:55] <jeremiah_> ???
[00:55] <Belial`> if you have 2d selected, that could be the problem.
[00:55] <jeremiah_> oh. on the gear?
[00:55] <Belial`> yes
[00:55] <jeremiah_> ya. it is ubuntu.
[00:57] <penguin42> thing is, it should never complain about mesa-utils if the 3d driver is broken or not - so something else is going on
[00:59] <jeremiah_> so...
[01:05] <alexisd> jeremiah_, did u installed glxinfo ?
[01:05] <jeremiah_> if someone told me to, yes.
[01:06] <alexisd> then try again
[01:06] <alexisd> glxinfo | egrep 'vendor|render|version'
[01:08] <jeremiah_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[01:08] <alexisd> on login screen you can login on ubuntu (not ubuntu 2d) ?
[01:09] <jeremiah_> it is on ubuntu
[01:10] <alexisd> that means that you have 3d accel
[01:11] <jeremiah_> i guess.
[01:13] <alexisd> well
[01:13] <alexisd> you might want to try ati from official site
[01:14] <jeremiah_> i did.
[01:14] <alexisd> well I have no clue
[01:14] <alexisd> you can try gnome-shell
[01:14] <alexisd> maybe that works
[01:14] <jeremiah_> but, i didn't know which one...
[01:15] <jeremiah_> and do i run it with wine, or do i get the one for linux?
[01:16] <mcdonc> your 3d is working already, i think you should probably just declare victory
[01:17] <jeremiah_> ya, but why did my previus linuxes freeze?
[01:17] <alexisd> yes till the next boot that the whole box will hang :)
[01:18] <mcdonc> the open source drivers are usually much more stable than the binary drivers
[01:18] <Belial`> hey jeremiah, search for the catalyst drivers in the software center
[01:19] <mcdonc> so if you installed the binary drivers in your previous linuxes, be thankful that some OSS programmer made that unnecessary i guess
[01:19] <jeremiah_> i didn't.
[01:19] <alexisd> mcdonc,  open are quite slow
[01:19] <alexisd> at least on nvidia
[01:20] <mcdonc> i have a lowly intel thing so everything's slow here ;-)
[01:20] <mcdonc> but it works great
[01:20] <Belial`> i have an optimus laptop with a core i3. i know when i first install ubuntu, i have to go in and uninstall any nvidia drivers or else 3d does not work.
[01:21] <Belial`> once the nvidia drivers are gone, then the intel drivers work fine.
[01:21] <Belial`> with 3d.
[01:21] <Belial`> and for me to use the nvidia card, i just install bumblebee from there.
[01:21] <jeremiah_> ok. since that is resolved, can someone tell me how to get minecraft working?
[01:22] <Belial`> http://corbindavenport.blogspot.com/2012/04/how-to-play-minecraft-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[01:22] <Belial`> jeremiah_ ^
[01:23] <jeremiah_> ok. i will try it out :)
[01:25] <jeremiah_> it didn't work. i got a black screen.
[01:28] <jeremiah_> Belial`, ^
[01:28] <mcdonc> better google for "minecraft black screen"
[01:29] <jeremiah_> done that.
[01:29] <mcdonc> sounds like a serious issue
[01:29] <jeremiah_> it does...
[01:29] <jeremiah_> and i have had it work the last time i had 12.04...
[01:31] <jeremiah_> before it DIED!
[01:36] <mcdonc> smallest violin
[01:37] <jeremiah_> ???
[01:58] <tiox> Hey, just came in to ask...
[01:59] <tiox> I know Unity 5.10 has dropped, but as of today, since I upgraded Ubuntu on My hard disk today before I left My computer-illiterate friend with it, has it been applied?
[02:05] <Daekdroom> Why the hell does pulseaudio automatically raise the volume for my microphone input?
[02:06] <cc11rocks> It may be from a previous setting
[02:07] <cc11rocks> There are separate settings for your speaker and mic
[02:07] <cc11rocks> Which is awesome IMHO
[02:08] <min|dvir|us> Hi, I just updated. Now I have 128 packages that, when I install them, are all no longer needed. Most of them are :i386.
[02:10] <Daekdroom> cc11rocks, I don't mean that.
[02:10] <Daekdroom> I mean that the volume slider magically starts moving to the right
[02:10] <Daekdroom> To the point even my breath is enough to clip the sound.
[02:13] <cc11rocks> Maybe this is a bug?
[02:14] <cc11rocks> sudo apt-get autoclean : min|dvir|us
[02:14] <cc11rocks> That should get rid of the not needed packages
[02:15] <min|dvir|us> cc11rocks: that's the package files, not the actually installed files, which would be autoremove. :)
[02:19] <cc11rocks> sudo apt-get purge << min|dvir|us Is that what you are looking for? That cleans the installation files and removes the packages...Are you looking to delete the downloaded packages?
[02:19] <min|dvir|us> No. When I remove the packages, I have 128 updates; when I install them, they're no longer required.
[02:20] <cc11rocks> So the dependencies for the packages go away when you install them?
[02:21] <min|dvir|us> Is anyone else having a tough time understanding me?
[02:21] <cc11rocks> Sorry about that
[02:22] <min|dvir|us> cc11rocks: that's OK. It'
[02:22] <min|dvir|us> s an infinite loop.
[02:44] <timeimp> is 12.04 slow in VMWare for anyone else?
[02:44] <cc11rocks> Me, but I use a netbook, so not an accurate confirm...
[02:45] <timeimp> cc11rocks: hmm, ok. I am using an AMD A4 (x64 Win7 Host OS) and Ubuntu just seems so laggy from 11.10 onwards
[02:45] <cc11rocks> :(
[02:47] <cc11rocks> have to eat, bbs
[02:48] <timeimp> k
[02:49] <timeimp> what does piix4 ... Host SMBus Controller not enabled mean?
[02:53] <timeimp> (error msg)
[02:58] <alex_mayorga> What do I need to add to bug 986756?
[03:15] <cc11rocks> Back
[03:41] <jeremiah_> could someone tell me how to install java 6 from the website? I need that specific java, and the websites instructions are not very good...
[03:53] <justdave> I'm trying to boot the desktop amd64 iso for beta 2...
[03:54] <justdave> I get a blank menu with a 1. and a 2. on it (with nothing after the numbers) and a prompt that says "choose boot type:"
[03:54] <justdave> and nothing I hit on the keyboard does anything
[03:54] <justdave> on an intel-graphics Mac Mini (core 2 duo)
[03:55] <justdave> at first I thought maybe it didn't do 64-bit (I've had it a while, couldn't remember what was already on it) so I grabbed the i386 image and burned that...
[03:55] <justdave> it boots fine...
[03:55] <justdave> but when I try to fix my grub (I have an existing system I accidentally hosed grub on and I'm trying to fix grub so it'll boot) the grub utilities won't touch it because the existing grub on the hard drive is 64-bit apparently
[03:56] <justdave> so now I'm back to wondering why the amd64 disk won't boot
[04:00] <justdave> I imagine it's probably not a common problem or the disk wouldn't still be there for download by now. :)
[04:09] <Artemis3> justdave, actually the betas can have ugly bugs and the image will remain until its replaced by the release in a few more days
[04:11] <justdave> google is telling me people have that error trying to install Windows on machines with Intel motherboards
[04:11] <Artemis3> did you try 11.10?
[04:12] <justdave> I didn't.
[04:12] <justdave> the machine already has 12.04 on it (installed via update-manager -d from 11.10)
[04:13] <Artemis3> oh...
[04:13] <Artemis3> i believe there is some nasty grub bug around
[04:15] <justdave> I had a couple hacks in my kernel parameters from trying to make earlier versions work that I didn't think were needed anymore, attempted to remove those and then it decided not to boot at all anymore (must have done something else besides the kernel params becaus grub itself doesn't even start anymore, just a blinking cursor in the corner
[04:16] <Artemis3> maybe this stuff: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941973
[04:18] <Artemis3> yes but grub is a stage earlier than the kernel, you should at least see the grub menu (if holding shift?)
[04:18] <justdave> no, I mean it doesn't even launch grub
[04:18] <justdave> it hangs before it gets that far
[04:18] <Artemis3> and if you didn't remove the older kernels, they should still be there to choose to boot from
[04:19] <justdave> I had the menus visible already before
[04:19] <Artemis3> yes then is a grub issue
[04:19] <Artemis3> maybe that thing uses an efi partition? did you read that grub likes to eat it for lunch? ;)
[04:19] <justdave> (in fact, I was planning to hunt down how to turn them off because I have another bootloader in front of grub (rEFIt) that I can use to pick the other OS when I need it
[04:20] <Artemis3> that refit could be damaged
[04:22] <justdave> hmm, let me check that efi partition thing
[04:22] <justdave> that actually sounds plausible, I remember looking at the partition map earlier
[04:33] <justdave> but it'll have to wait until tomorrow :( it's in a room with a person who is now sleeping and will get upset if I wake her up testing it :)
[04:44] <nischayn22> has the heating problem in Sony Vaio laptops been solved? Or should I use lubuntu, will that help with heating problem?
[04:54] <astraljava> nischayn22: Do you have a bug on that?
[04:59] <nischayn22> astraljava: there are questions on askubuntu don't know of a bug
[05:00] <nischayn22> !bugs
[06:44]  * gnomefreak needs to learn how to use google :(
[07:21] <phpN00b> where can I see the enw features of the next release?
[07:23] <phpN00b> package ia32-libs is removed in 12.04, what package do I need to install to run 32bit programs?
[07:25] <linuxuz3r> hi
[07:28] <datruth_> I'm trying to upgrade my kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 but on do-release-upgrade -d I am getting an error about having held / broken packages but I cant find any
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> phpN00b, are you in 12.04
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> are you in pp
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> theres no ia32-lib in pp?
[07:31] <phpN00b> linuxuz3r, downloading the beta2 iso
[07:31] <linuxuz3r> oh
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> i wonder if you can run 32bits programmer in 64bits software
[07:32] <linuxuz3r> ?
[07:32] <phpN00b> ofcourse that is possible
[07:32] <phpN00b> you only need the 32bit libs
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> is it availaboe in 12.04
[07:33] <linuxuz3r> or not
[07:34] <datruth_> is it best to just do a fresh install?
[07:38] <linuxuz3r> i dont know
[07:39] <linuxuz3r> i have packages installed on my system that i need
[07:39] <linuxuz3r> i might break it if i just upgrade
[07:39] <abeer> Is anybody here using the one click minimize patch on 12.04?
[07:41] <datruth_> can I reinstall ubuntu on top on a pre-exisiting ubuntu install on a dualboot machine with win7?
[07:42] <abeer> Do you want to replace the previous Ubuntu?
[07:42] <datruth_> abeer: yes
[07:42] <datruth_> since i'm unable to do an upgrade I'll have to do a fresh install
[07:42] <abeer> Then, there are 2 ways. Either you could 1> Use the inbuilt installer to replace. There is an option for this.
[07:43] <abeer> Or, you could reset the Windows Bootloader, then boot from a pendrive/cd and reinstall Ubuntu on the previous partitions by formatting them.
[07:43] <datruth_> abeer: the inbult installer will be on the cd that i'll need to burn and boot off of?
[07:44] <abeer> yes.
[07:44] <datruth_> If I use the inbuilt installer will I have to re-install win7?
[07:44] <abeer> If possible use a pen drive, I feel its much faster.
[07:44] <abeer> Not at all, just make sure you select the correct options.
[07:44] <abeer> There will be an option to replace current Ubuntu installation.
[07:45] <datruth_> I dont have any free available flash drives atm
[07:45] <datruth_> I'd have to burn a image to it?
[07:45] <datruth_> I already have the 12.04 image burned
[07:47] <datruth_> abeer: btw thx for the info
[07:47] <linuxuz3r> what does the one click minimize patch do?
[07:47] <abeer> That's perfectly alright.
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> datruth_, is it beta or the final version?
[07:48] <abeer> You can minimize windows by clicking on the respective icons in the unity bar
[07:48] <linuxuz3r> is it an extension
[07:49] <linuxuz3r> right now i like how my gnome shell works
[07:49] <linuxuz3r> oh by the way
[07:49] <ghabit> hi
[07:49] <linuxuz3r> is it unity not gnome shell
[07:49] <abeer> Are you on fallback? or Gnome 3.4?
[07:49] <ghabit> when ubuntu+1 become ubuntu?
[07:49] <linuxuz3r> 3.1
[07:50] <linuxuz3r> you guys can suggest a good theme for gnome shell
[07:50] <linuxuz3r> can you guys suggest
[07:51] <abeer> I've decided to shift back to gnome fallback for a while.
[07:51] <abeer> Could someone tell me how to make gnome-do index my ntfs partitions.
[07:51] <abeer> datruth: not a problem
[08:04] <datruth_> hrmm there is no inbuilt install option
[08:04] <curlysue> hi @all, hope i am here at the correct channel with a question to unity/compiz
[08:05] <curlysue> want to activate different background-images on the 4 desktops
[08:05] <datruth_> where would this option be?
[08:07] <mongo> ga..this is not going to be a good release for the server version...so many broken packages
[08:07] <curlysue> I have acitivated the cube, that works fine. Have configured 4 different wallpapers in CCSM in. And deactivated desktop. But there is no changing the background.
[08:08] <mongo> e.g. python-webob breaks openstack
[08:08] <curlysue> Any idea, what is to configure?
[08:30] <doda> hi
[08:30] <doda> isn't 12.04 supposed to support clickpads ?
[08:31] <doda> i installed a daily build a friends machine, need to edit the synaptics.conf file to make it work, with info frm the arch wiki
[08:32] <datruth_> im hoping 12.04 fixes my sound/keyboard issues
[08:35] <xsl> hello all, precise still does not have a linux-server kernel?
[08:36] <datruth_> how can I install kubuntu using a pre-existing ubuntu partition/install?
[08:36] <xsl> i did a do-release-upgrade and it replaced linux-image-3.0.0-17-server with linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[08:41] <Myrtti> does someone have a screenshot of vanilla 12.04 Ubuntu at hand?
[08:42] <Myrtti> or, could someone confirm that the problem is with me and not Ubuntu, when I've got no clock/calendar thingie on the top bar?
[08:44] <Trewas> xsl: apparently there is no server kernel anymore, probably it was removed because there is no significant difference to the generic kernel configuration
[08:48] <xsl> Trewas: tyvm
[08:51] <xsl> Trewas: so linux-server linux-image-server are just metapackes
[08:51] <Trewas> xsl: yeah
[08:53] <xsl> i will leave them -  linux-image-server              <IP_ADDRESS>.25 it is just aiming for linux image-3.2......
[08:53] <xsl> Trewas: tyvm for your help
[09:03] <Myrtti> :-| I don't know what I'm missing or if I'm missing anything but I don't have the clock thingie on the top bar and it does make me a bit annoyed. It's not there and I don't know what part has broken. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate - I just realised in System Settings there's nothing that I could use to change time and date either.
[09:04] <Myrtti> and the system claims to have all the packages that come with ubuntu-desktop and it's up to date
[09:06] <Myrtti> something doesn't ring true here
[09:08] <Myrtti> huh. indicator-datetime had been uninstalled
[09:17] <tero> So still any bugs left to fix in these four days?
[09:18] <mongo> everything i'm finding is too big to fix :( mostly on the server side though
[09:19] <mongo> too big to fix before release that is
[09:19] <airtonix> i need some help getting this sata card using ahci instead of pata_marvel : http://dpaste.com/735484/
[09:22] <mongo> airtonix: IIRC you can byt you use any other pata you have on the MB
[09:23] <airtonix> sorry ?
[09:23] <airtonix> i can but i can ?
[09:24] <airtonix> or i can't but i can ?
[09:24] <airtonix> ???
[09:24] <mongo> you lose the non-marvel ports, at least that was the issue a few years back
[09:24] <mongo> non-varvel IDE ports
[09:24] <airtonix> this is a daughter board
[09:25] <airtonix> i don't care about ide
[09:25] <airtonix> http://dpaste.com/735485/
[09:25] <mongo> hrm never tried it as an add in
[09:26] <mongo> the old fix was "options ahci marvell_enable=1
[09:26] <airtonix> did that
[09:26] <mongo> in modprobe
[09:26] <mongo> no go?
[09:26] <airtonix> nothing. in bios the card is set to ahci too
[09:26] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: did you accidently removed with while updateing or installing something? look for somthing like indicator-*. not sure if there is one or what the package is called
[09:28] <mongo> airtonix: the pain was that it really wasn't AHCI, it only had partial support IIRC
[09:28] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: here is the package i think indicator-datetime
[09:29] <gnomefreak> ^^^ install and see what happens
[09:29] <gnomefreak> yep that is the package
[09:30] <ashjas> hello everyone...
[09:30] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:30] <ashjas> i need help regarding 12.04 betas
[09:30]  * gnomefreak not everyone :)
[09:30] <Myrtti> gnomefreak: yeah, it appears so
[09:30] <gnomefreak> ashjas: what aboiut it
[09:30] <ashjas> i am on a laptop thaats having intel 915 chipset
[09:31] <gnomefreak> ^^^ that is not helpful
[09:32] <airtonix> mongo: this is the thing i have : http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=625&proname=ADPE4S-PB
[09:32] <airtonix> mongo: on this mobo : http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/ipcboard_view.asp?productid=781&proname=NC9C-550-LF
[09:34] <ashjas> i have a problem with the wireless since the initial betas till now... iam unable to connect to the internet through wireless card
[09:34] <ashjas> pls see my problem here...http://askubuntu.com/q/123888/2538
[09:35] <ashjas> i installed the same beta on a recent laptop and on that there are no issues at all...
[09:36] <ashjas> so there is something related to drivers thats changed thats causing this issue...
[09:36] <ashjas> anyone having any idea?? pls help me
[09:36]  * gnomefreak no good with networking issues
[09:37] <gnomefreak> brb smoser
[09:37] <mongo> airtonix: ya I was looking for it in newer kernels
[09:37] <mongo> https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/articles/h/a/r/Hardware,_driver_status.html
[09:37] <mongo> that says it is supported but that marvel doesn't provide much info
[09:37] <airtonix> mongo: when i modprobe ahci_platform it complains about a missing device
[09:38] <airtonix> so my chipset is supposed to be supported
[09:38] <airtonix> `$ lsmod | grep ahci` revelas only : ahci_platform acard_ahci
[09:39] <airtonix> i mean modprobe -l
[09:39] <mongo> airtonix: well it was supported in an older kernel, marvell may not be supplying patches now
[09:39] <airtonix> http://dpaste.com/735493/
[09:40] <mongo> i'm betting it is a pci id issue
[09:43] <mongo> airtonix: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15771
[09:51] <airtonix> mongo: thanks
[09:56] <airtonix> marvell needs to die in a fire
[10:20] <jussi> Is anyone here active on Kubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:22] <ngomes> when 12.04 is out ?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ngomes: see /t and click the link that has the word rease
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ngomes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[10:24] <gnomefreak> ^^^link
[10:24] <ngomes> gnomefreak, thanks
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ngomes: np
[10:25] <ngomes> btw
[10:25] <ngomes> what does LTS means ?
[10:25] <Tellmarch> long term support
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ngomes: long term support
[10:26] <gnomefreak> IIRC lts is 18 months as opposed the 12 months
[10:26] <Tellmarch> it will be supported at least until the next LTS, 2 years from now, and even a bit further
[10:26] <gnomefreak> server even longer
[10:27] <Tellmarch> "In previous releases, a Long Term Support (LTS) version had 3 years support on Ubuntu (Desktop) and 5 years on Ubuntu Server. Starting with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, both versions will receive 5 years support."
[10:27] <gnomefreak> 2years? i thought gui was 18months and server was 2 years
[10:27] <gnomefreak> oh cool
[10:28] <user82> hi. does anyone know if the install progress continues after installing grub? i get an error and click "go on without installing grub" and it aborts and says it is ready..only once it continued
[10:28] <gnomefreak> its a shame i dont spend alot of time since i update repos as soon as they open
[10:28] <Tellmarch> i'm still on 10.04, the previous LTS
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Tellmarch: your getting that error when trying to install 12.04 or upgrading to 12.04?
[10:30] <Tellmarch> i don't get any error :-)
[10:30] <Tellmarch> you're mistaking me with user82 i think ^^
[10:30] <gnomefreak> damn sorry Tellmarch
[10:30] <user82> might be. gnomefreak installing it completely new
[10:31] <gnomefreak> user82: is this issue when trying to install it from disk or what not or this is during upgrade?
[10:31] <user82> it messes up installing grub..but thats allright(raid stuff i cna do it manually). but it does not go on installing after i click "go on without grub"
[10:31] <ngomes> ok gnomefreak , thanks
[10:31] <ngomes> didnt knew that
[10:31] <user82> i am installing it from a bootable flashdrive
[10:34] <user82> crap the installer crashed again...i will now try to install 10.04(where everything worked) and upgrade
[10:34] <gnomefreak> for example the iso is the issue (like burn to fast or the md5sum is nt the same.) during an upgradethat im not sure what it is drurring upgrad other than grub
[10:34] <gnomefreak> user82: if it crashed than the disk is bad. bvuern a new one or just upgrade to 12.04
[10:35]  * gnomefreak reccomends upgrade not install
[10:35] <user82> it is a flash drive...
[10:35] <user82> i dont think it is defective
[10:35] <gnomefreak> tghe drive no the iso yes
[10:36] <gnomefreak> s/tghe/the
[10:37] <user82> md5sum perhaps..will make sure it is ok next time
[10:38] <gnomefreak> this is taking forever to do:( i think i have way too much music
[10:38] <gnomefreak> )
[10:45]  * gnomefreak keeps falling asleep, brb smoke (maybe it will help)
[10:57] <user82> still wondering if i am the only one who had problems with a custom grub installation disc? has anyone else tested it
[10:58] <gnomefreak> there is a separate disk all about grub?
[10:59] <user82> uhm no..sorry let me try again: i chose a custom /dev/ for installing grub
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:59] <user82> and it still tried to use /dev/sda although i had specifically chosen another one
[11:00] <user82> (ubuntu 11.10 did not do that afaik)
[11:01] <gnomefreak> alot of things changing for 12.04
[11:01] <user82> yep thats wher it started first
[11:01] <user82> i ignored it back then because i could upgrade
[11:01] <user82> maybe i will lokk into it another time and report it as bug
[11:02] <gnomefreak> that is kindd of high priority i would think
[11:02] <user82> that is why i dont really believe it is a bug. would not have someone already detected it?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> needs to be fixed before relase so please report the bug as soon as you can
[11:02] <user82> maybe it is a special problem with my system only
[11:03]  * gnomefreak upgraded
[11:04] <user82> sounds like someone found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/950166
[11:05] <user82> the guy got a raid0(as me) and grub wants to go to /dev/sda
[11:07] <gnomefreak> user82: you should change status to confirmed and comment on the bug like "i see this also" or something
[11:08] <gnomefreak> if you cant change status let me know and ill do it
[11:08] <user82> hmh i dont have any experience in bug filing...i will try to reproduce the part with
[11:08] <user82> Mar 8 18:50:09 ubuntu grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sda'Mar 8 18:50:12 ubuntu ubiquity: Can't read partition table from /dev/sda
[11:08] <user82> i think it is the same for me
[11:09] <user82> ok reboot..live system only for insall purpose. will now try to reproduce the guys bug and confirm it
[11:12] <cousin_luigi> Hello.
[11:13] <cousin_luigi> How do I change the lightdm background picture? SLM doesn't work anymore.
[11:37] <nik90> guys I need your help, I am unable to boot into 12.04
[11:37] <KM0201> did you have /root on its own partition?
[11:37] <nik90> mount = mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/0e6a2375.... on /root failed = invalid argument
[11:38] <nik90> mount = mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
[11:38] <nik90> mount = mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[11:38] <nik90> KM0201, yeah I think so
[11:38] <KM0201> there you go...
[11:38] <KM0201> why did you do that?
[11:38] <nik90> but I have been running Ubuntu 12.04 for like 4 months now
[11:38] <penguin42> nik90: Anything odd about yoursetup?
[11:39] <nik90> and I just ran into this issue just now
[11:39] <penguin42> nik90: Do you use the normal filesystem normal sata disks?
[11:39] <nik90> KM0201, i dont know why I did it...
[11:39] <KM0201> it looks to me like he has a partition for /root
[11:39] <nik90> penguin42...no just normal filesystem
[11:39] <KM0201> nik90: well, word to the wise, when you don't know what you're doing, jsut do a default install..lol
[11:39] <nik90> normal sata disks
[11:39] <nik90> no I dual boot with windows
[11:40] <nik90> so I had to make my own partition setup
[11:40] <KM0201> so?
[11:40] <KM0201> hardly
[11:40] <KM0201> but ok.
[11:40] <nik90> but I am more concerned about why now?
[11:40] <penguin42> nik90: but was it working ?
[11:40] <nik90> after all this time
[11:40] <nik90> yeah the Ubuntu 12.04 setup has been working for 4 months now since alpha 2
[11:40] <nik90> I have been very happy with it
[11:41] <penguin42> nik90: So what happened - di you change anything?
[11:41] <nik90> penguin42, no nothing...I just rebooted and then this happened
[11:42] <penguin42> nik90: OK, so when does it display those messages and what does it leave you with? An initramfs shell?
[11:42] <nik90> penguin42, although when I tried updating, it said something was locked...and I couldnt open software center...so I thought a reboot would be best
[11:42] <nik90> penguin42, ook here is the complete error message
[11:42] <nik90> mount = mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/0e6a2375.... on /root failed = invalid argument mount = mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory mount = mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory mount = mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory  Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. No init found. Try passing init = bootarg  BusyBox  V1.18.5 (V1.18.5-1Ubuntu4) built in shell
[11:42] <nik90> and yes it leaves me with a initramfs shell
[11:43] <sddhrthrt> how is the upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 working out?
[11:43] <sddhrthrt> is it safe?
[11:43] <penguin42> nik90: Hmm curious - if you look at /proc/partitions  does it show your disks?
[11:43] <sddhrthrt> is it bugy?
[11:43] <yeats> nik90: http://pinoy-computing-tips.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-fix-ubuntu-error-no-init-found.html
[11:44] <nik90> yeats, that's the exact message that I got
[11:44] <nik90> i'll try following the solution there to see if I can fix it
[11:44] <yeats> nik90: hope it's helpful
[11:45] <nik90> penguin42, yeats, I need to reboot this very system to try it out since I dualboot and I am sending this message from windows
[11:45] <nik90> I'll let you how it goes
[11:45] <penguin42> good luck
[11:45] <nik90> but thanks for your help
[11:45] <sddhrthrt> can i upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04?
[11:45] <sddhrthrt> bugs?
[11:46] <penguin42> sddhrthrt: I don't think I've seen many people on here trying a 10.04-12.04 upgrade
[11:46] <sddhrthrt> ah.. and how is it going for them?
[11:46] <sddhrthrt> is it *exactly* like an original install?
[11:47] <yeats> sddhrthrt: you can do it with a live CD, yes
[11:48] <sddhrthrt> ah, you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 from a live cd?
[11:48] <sddhrthrt> i was thinking of upgrade-manager -d or something
[11:48] <yeats> sddhrthrt: as far as being "exactly like" an install would be if you installed from scratch, almost certainly not
[11:48] <sddhrthrt> yes, yeats. i dont want to regret after doing it
[11:49] <yeats> sddhrthrt: yeah - that will require you to upgrade through each release in between the two - a live CD (to my surprise) offered me the option to upgrade
[11:49] <yeats> on my system it worked beautifully
[11:49] <sddhrthrt> ah :)
[11:49] <sddhrthrt> then its that, ! :)
[11:49] <sddhrthrt> then its that, yeats ! :)
[11:50]  * yeats adds all his standard caveats about backing up important data, etc. before continuing...
[11:56] <NurseDad> I want to remove the folders (documents, pictures, etc...) in the side bar and in their place I want the windows folders (document, pictures,etc). I also want Ubuntu to use those folders on the windows partition as storage. Can someone direct me please?
[11:58] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, what filesystem do the windows partitions use?
[11:59] <NurseDad> ntfs
[11:59] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, i'd vote against it then... just an opinion, but ntfs still *can* cause troubles.
[12:01] <NurseDad> unfortunately the windows install is over a year old and is taking up quite a bit of space. so I made my ubuntu root, swap and home small planning on using the windows partio as storage
[12:02] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, if you decide to to it anyway, just make sure those windows partitions are mounted on startup, then create symbolic links using the ubuntu standard names "documents", etc.
[12:02] <NurseDad> ok i'll look into sym links
[12:14] <CyberWorld> Is the 26th still look like the release date?
[12:14] <timeimp> any reason why 12.04b2 would just lock-up and freeze in VMWare workstation?
[12:14] <penguin42> timeimp: No, shouldn't - at any particular point?
[12:15] <Nightwalkerkg> I have tryed to install ubuntu 12.04 but i have noticed that network manager isn't detecting my network card and i can't acess the internet.Is there an alternative to NM and is there a way to install it without the nework connection?
[12:15] <timeimp> penguin42: Hmm, well I do have it open and let it run to the screen saver. I've restarted and will check /var/log/messages now
[12:17] <kklimonda> CyberWorld: yes
[12:17] <CyberWorld> cool thx kklimonda
[12:19] <NurseDad> Wolfsherz: should I use a hard or sym link
[12:19] <NurseDad> or soft
[12:19] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, i'd use symbolic
[12:19] <NurseDad> Wolfsherz: guess I dont know the difference
[12:20] <NurseDad> cant they be hard or soft
[12:20] <yeats> NurseDad: you should always use soft/symbolic links
[12:20] <timeimp> penguin42: just froze again. looks like some kind of PCI error. I'll try again.
[12:21] <Nightwalkerkg> I have tried installing ubuntu 12.04 but i have noticed that network manager isn't detecting my network card and i can't acess the internet.Is there an alternative to NM and is there a way to install it without the network connection?
[12:21] <ashjas> hello there....
[12:21] <ashjas> i need to discuss one probem that ive beeb facing with precise... betas
[12:21] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, remove that documents directory from your homedir, then create symbolic links like this: "ln -s /path/to/windows/mount/and/directory/ ~/Documents"
[12:21] <NurseDad> yeats: im using it to link the ubuntu folders ie documents, pictures etc.. to windoows document etc on the ntfs partition
[12:22] <nik90> yeats, it works now...sending this from my ubuntu 12.04 setup
[12:22] <NurseDad> Wolfsherz: ok when I right click on the folder remove is greyed out
[12:23] <nik90> penguin42, it works now :)
[12:23] <yeats> nik90: excellent!
[12:23] <penguin42> yeats: Nice spot; I wouldn't have thought of needing an fsck at that point
[12:23] <nik90> yeats, though curious, what is the recommended partition setup for ubuntu?
[12:23] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, is there files in it
[12:23] <yeats> penguin42: glad it worked
[12:23] <NurseDad> Woflzsherz: no
[12:24] <Wolfsherz> NurseDad, open console and type "rmdir ~/Documents"
[12:24] <nik90> penguin42, yeats, I current have 1 partion for root (including home) and another one for swap
[12:24] <nik90> is this not recommended?
[12:24] <yeats> nik90: I always let the installer automatically partition unless I have a specific reason not to (like wanting a separate /home)
[12:24] <nik90> yeats, and this also works for dual boot scenarios?
[12:24] <yeats> nik90: sounds fine
[12:24] <Wolfsherz> nik90, thats ok
[12:24] <yeats> nik90: yes
[12:25] <nik90> yeats, ok...thnx...am so glad
[12:27] <timeimp> penguin42: this is was the last syslog message. ubuntu tpvmlpd2[2865]: readlink("/dev/vmwcomgw") failed with 2
[12:32] <yeats> timeimp: you might take this up in #vmware with more success
[12:33] <timeimp> yeats: ok. I also noted firefox said that it was "segfault" with libX11
[12:33] <yeats> timeimp: you might boot into a live CD image and do an fsck
[12:34] <yeats> timeimp: also, see the comments about the /dev/vmwcomgw file here: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/content/groups/treleases/etc/tpvmlp.conf
[12:34] <timeimp> yeats: lovely. and thanks!
[12:49] <CyberWorld> I hope this turns out to be a solid release
[12:51] <timeimp> CyberWorld: me too! Question though: do you run 12.04 natively?
[12:52] <CyberWorld> mint for now unity and gnome 3 too unstable gnome 2 so far
[12:53] <timeimp> mint?
[12:54] <CyberWorld> mint linux built on ubuntu like ubuntu is based on debian unstable branch
[12:55] <CyberWorld> distrowatch.org is a good site if you don't know it yet
[12:55] <timeimp> ah. yes of course. well I updated from 11.10 and 12.04 seems laggy
[12:56] <CyberWorld> does unity run pidgin now it didn't for me before
[12:57] <timeimp> i'll check
[12:58] <CyberWorld> I'm a long time ubuntu user that isn't sold on unity yet
[12:58] <CyberWorld> hopefully they make it work
[12:59] <caravel> Hi there, could anyone enlighten me a little about LiveUSB persistent mode ? I've searched again and again... Is that supposed to be apt-get upgradable ? What about dist-upgrade ?
[13:00] <CyberWorld> well dist-upgrade wouldn't work right now because it hasn't been released yet
[13:00] <timeimp> CyberWorld: how do you get GNOME-2 for it?
[13:00] <CyberWorld> choose "gnome CLASSIC"
[13:01] <CyberWorld> on login
[13:01] <CyberWorld> I want to try xubuntu on a old laptop
[13:01] <caravel> CyberWorld: dist-upgrade does apply *all* avail updates, which a simple upgrade doesn't, as well as (eventually) remove some obsolete packages
[13:01] <timeimp> ah  ok
[13:02] <caravel> I have actually attempted to apply an apt-get upgrade and it seemed to apply them OK
[13:02] <caravel> then dist-upgrade would offer 8 more, including a kernel as expected, and I chose *not* to apply it for now
[13:03] <caravel> Restarting with reboot somehow *did* boot
[13:03] <caravel> Next shutdown then boot returned a "no system found"
[13:03] <CyberWorld> I bet the release would be best to jump in at one week after release, now if you want to help fix bugs
[13:03] <caravel> CyberWorld: yes, that's what I am trying to do ^^
[13:03] <CyberWorld> :)
[13:04] <caravel> CyberWorld: I assume the upgrade is broken since it should update syslinux config as standard install would update grub
[13:04] <caravel> (this is a wild guess)
[13:04] <CyberWorld> does x64 desktop 12.04 have flash 11?
[13:04] <caravel> CyberWorld: ( that LiveUSB was generated from a beta2 LiveCD )
[13:05] <timeimp> CyberWorld: I saw no option for GNOMECLASSIC on the login screen, only "Unity 2D"
[13:05] <CyberWorld> that is on MINT linux
[13:06] <CyberWorld> boot off the cd and see if you like it, hopefully unity has improved I look forward to trying it
[13:06] <caravel> CyberWorld: yes, Adobe *does* release flash x86_64 for a while now, I see no reason why it wouldn't be avail in 12.04
[13:07] <CyberWorld> with pae for desktop think 32 or 64 bit at this time
[13:07] <CyberWorld> debian x64 makes a mean stable server
[13:07] <caravel> CyberWorld: (I'm running flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.x86_64 myself )
[13:08] <CyberWorld> cool caravel
[13:08] <CyberWorld> I should buy some more ram it's cheap
[13:09] <CyberWorld> I have a 1366 intel slot I intend to upgrade from a 2.13 quad xeon to a highend 6 core+ more mem
[13:09] <minimec> timeimp: sudo apt-get install gnome will give you the gnome3 environment including gnome (classic) + gnome (classic no effects). Beware! Gnome classic might break the composite settings of unity after launch. I had to delete .gconf/compiz-1 and .gconf/compizconfig-1 to get unity back. No problem with gnome (classic no effects) ...
[13:09] <timeimp> minimec: oh nice! Thanks! will try that out now.
[13:10] <timeimp> not sure if Unity is the reason for slight lag with Ubuntu
[13:10] <caravel> CyberWorld: cf. flash x86_64, I didn't say that was on a Ubuntu or Debian system, thou ^^
[13:11] <caravel> (didn't check that)
[13:11] <Almindor> is there any way to install adobe air (the last verion) on 12.04? There's an "Install gnome keyring" error from the adobe installer on 12.04
[13:16] <timeimp> minimec: gdm or lightdm?
[13:16] <minimec> timeimp: I stayed on lightdm
[13:16] <timeimp> k
[13:20] <Wolfsherz> does anyone know wether 12.04 will run on z77?
[13:22] <minimec> Wolfsherz: I guess you do speak german with this nick. Motherboard seems supported with 11.10, so I guess no gproblem with 12.04 http://www.pctreiber.net/2012/gigabyte-ga-z77mx-d3h-review.html/7
[13:23] <CyberWorld> I would guess gigabyte and asus would be supported being popular in the hobby community
[13:23] <Wolfsherz> minimec, danke /thank you =)
[13:25] <nik90> anybody own a sony vaio laptop?? if yes, how do you set it to boot from the cd?
[13:25] <CyberWorld> the biggest problem I see people having is with wireless and I would say buy a laptop with a intel wireless chipset to avoid problems
[13:26] <CyberWorld> nik go into bios at start of boot up it should say the key you have to "catch it"
[13:26] <nik90> ok
[13:26] <timeimp> minimec: all installed. thanks!
[13:26] <CyberWorld> then choose to boot off cdrom
[13:26] <minimec> timeimp: No problem.
[13:29] <amitb> hows yuour experience with upgrading oneiric to precise? I am currently doing it..
[13:31] <minimec> amitb: In my case (only opensource drivers incl. some default_grub settings in /etc/default/grub) flawless...
[13:45] <Andy80> are Nvidia binary driver version 295.33 (the previous one) available somewhere?
[13:45] <Andy80> I mean... already compiled for Ubuntu 12.04
[13:46]  * penguin42 gets deja-vu
[13:47] <Andy80> penguin42: hi :) I haven't tested my RAM yet.... but I wanna try the old driver someway
[13:56] <Andy80> penguin42: I could have found the 295.33 I'm looking for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates :) let's try it
[14:08] <hydester> can i run an lxc guest of precise on an oneiric host?
[14:09] <Andy80> penguin42: I've installed the 295.33 version finally :) let's see if this is stable
[14:09] <penguin42> cool
[14:13] <mellett68> Hi all, I've had some grief with upgrading from 11.10 x64 to 12.04 x64 today. memtest86+ won't configure, it hangs after updating the grub list. bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/986833
[14:14] <mellett68> Currently apt-get won't work since it knows that memtest needs to be configured, and dpkg --configure -a puts me in the hanged state again.
[14:14] <pranavk> when is 12.04 final release will be out ?
[14:15] <pranavk> when 12.04 will be out ?
[14:15] <mellett68> 26th
[14:15] <fragske> according to the schedule 26th
[14:15] <KarmaComa> 4 days left :(
[14:16] <fragske> But I upgraded earlier today already
[14:16] <KarmaComa> too much
[14:16] <fragske> Haven't run in too much trouble yet
[14:16] <fragske> only the latest kernel won't boot
[14:16] <pranavk> is it final or it may delay . what is probability of a delay. i mean its sure ?
[14:16] <Flywater> why ubuntu freeze when i login the system
[14:17] <fragske> I've got this weird issue , but that's since the previous version already
[14:17] <minimec> Flywater: Hi. So we di talkin #ubuntu. Can you give tell me, what GPU you use?
[14:17] <fragske> when I enter the password for my keychain ... my touchpad stops working :)
[14:18] <Flywater> APU E-350
[14:18] <krababbel> Does networkmanager support vlans?
[14:18] <minimec> Flywater: That could be the problem. Do you have the AMD/ATI property driver installed?
[14:18] <krababbel> If not, can I simply delete this package on a desktop?
[14:19] <Flywater> if i enable neiwork boot and set it boot first in BIOS,i will login the system smoothly
[14:19] <Flywater> sorry,it's network boot
[14:19] <minimec> Flywater: OK. ;) That is strange...
[14:20] <Flywater> 11.10 has the problem ,too
[14:20] <minimec> Flywater: Still... Do you have that property fglrx driver installed on your system?
[14:20] <Flywater> my notebook is lenovo
[14:20] <Flywater> yes
[14:21] <Flywater> but if i don't install the driver the problem is still
[14:22] <minimec> Flywater: Have you tried to reset the BIOS to its defaults once? I had do that on my lenovo x121e to get Bluetooth working.
[14:24] <Flywater> no
[14:24] <minimec> Flywater: It's worth a try...
[14:24] <agreaves> Hi im using ubuntu 12.04 and I have a wireless mouse connected to my system but it wont work in ubuntu
[14:24] <Flywater> and the APU C-60 has the problem ,too
[14:24] <agreaves> can anbody help me get it connected?
[14:25] <Flywater> the APU C-60 has the problem,too
[14:26] <Flywater> it is strange
[14:26] <agreaves> can anybody here help me with a wireless mouse connection problem?
[14:27] <Flywater> sorry,i must leave
[14:28] <Flywater> bye
[14:28] <minimec> agreaves: A mouse, wired or not, is rarely a problem on Linux systems... Would the device be recognized by the system (lsusb)? Is it a bluetooth or a USB wireless mouse?
[14:28] <agreaves> USB wireless mouse
[14:29] <minimec> agreaves: unplug/plub the device and type demsg in a console the last 5+ lines should give you some indications. Alos try lsusb for
[14:30] <minimec> ... something like this... Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c041 Logitech, Inc. G5 Laser Mouse
[14:30] <bjsnider> Andy80, do you have an older nvidia card? which one is it?
[14:30] <agreaves> [ 2325.414244] generic-usb 0003:0603:1602.0A08: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [USB Device USB Device] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1/input0
[14:30] <agreaves> [ 2325.664132] usb 6-1: USB disconnect, device number 49
[14:30] <agreaves> [ 2325.932082] usb 6-1: new low-speed USB device number 50 using uhci_hcd
[14:30] <agreaves> [ 2325.992128] hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[14:31] <minimec> sorry it's dmesg
[14:31] <agreaves> thats what I got after disconnecting it
[14:31] <bjsnider> agreaves, use pastebin next time please
[14:31] <Andy80> bjsnider: it's a Nvidia 8800 GS - 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GS] (rev a2)
[14:31] <agreaves> how do I use pastebin?
[14:31] <bjsnider> Andy80, the .40 blob should work with that chip. it's only <=g80 chips that have the problem
[14:32] <Steevca> I have just tryed to run ubuntu 12.04 daily build with usb flash drive,and network manager can't connect to the network,but it's working under 11.10
[14:32] <minimec> agreaves: There is a package called pasteinit or something in the repo...
[14:32] <caravel> agreaves: apt-get install pastebinit  (or, click apt://pastebinit )
[14:32] <Andy80> bjsnider: it works, but it's very unstable. I get a minimum of 5-6 Xorg crashes per day :(
[14:33] <bjsnider> charming
[14:33] <Andy80> bjsnider: the whole Xorg crashes and I'm taken back to the lighdm login screen
[14:33] <bjsnider> how do you know the nvidia driver is responsible for that?
[14:33] <Andy80> bjsnider: I don't have any error messages..... p.s: yes, I've already reported this bug on LP
[14:33] <agreaves> caravel where do I type that command here or in the terminal window?
[14:33] <mongo> Steevca: are you trying to connect via wireless? it may need to install non-free drivers or firmware
[14:34] <bjsnider> Andy80, you have /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the like
[14:34] <Andy80> bjsnider: I just suspect it... I had to target some package to report the bug :)
[14:34] <Steevca> mongo, Nope,it's a wired connection.
[14:35] <Steevca> When i open the network manager under wired tab there are two connections but when i click on the icon it's just blank.
[14:35] <caravel> agreaves: may I ask why you are using a beta version if you do not yet know this kind  of things ? :)
[14:35] <minimec> Andy80: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4ODc
[14:36] <Steevca> mongo, someone sent me this,but i am not sure what to do,i am really new with linux os.
[14:36] <Andy80> minimec: yeah, I saw that post, another more reason to think the driver it's causing my Xorg crash
[14:36] <Steevca> http://pastebin.com/AuYEAkBj
[14:37] <agreaves> I just ran the upgrade from within ubuntu last night
[14:37] <agreaves> it still didnt work under 11.04
[14:38] <minimec> Andy80: My Desktop workhorse is using a geforce 7600GS. How are the opensource driver working? In my case I might switch to the nouveau driver for 12.04
[14:38] <agreaves> caravel im new to ubuntu so please bare with me
[14:38] <bjsnider> minimec, that bug doesn't apply to his chip
[14:38] <bjsnider> as i said above
[14:38] <Andy80> bjsnider: the .log doesn't contain anything intersting :\ I can paste it somewhere if you want... but I don't remember what time I had the last crash with 295.40. Now I'm running 295.33, let's see if it crashes too.
[14:38] <Steevca> Can anyone help me with this?
[14:39] <mongo> Steevca: open a terminal and run "sudo dhclient"
[14:39] <bjsnider> Andy80, there are older logs
[14:39] <mongo> and see if you get a connection
[14:39] <Steevca> mongo, Ok,ill get back to you in a sec.
[14:40] <agreaves> caravel: I installed the pastebinit how do I use it?
[14:41] <Andy80> bjsnider: .log.old, I know... but nothing interesting there neither....
[14:41] <bjsnider> Andy80, try .xsession-errors
[14:41] <caravel> @all, is 12.04 pushed by default from standard update to all users, yet ?
[14:42] <minimec> bjsnider: Ok. I just noticed that some cards of the 8000 series were affected too.
[14:43] <caravel> agreaves: well, for example, you can do : dmesg -tail 100 | grep usb | pastebinit
[14:44] <Andy80> bjsnider: http://pastebin.com/n3vgVZTQ
[14:44] <caravel> agreaves: or: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:44] <caravel> agreaves: sorry, I meant dmesg | tail -n 100 | grep usb | pastebinit
[14:44] <agreaves> so I type that command in this window or the terminal window?
[14:45]  * caravel feels really weird, wonders if he should drive anyone today ^^
[14:45] <caravel> agreaves: in the terminal, of course
[14:45] <caravel> agreaves: but I don't know what you need to share with us :D
[14:46] <agreaves> the log from dmesg pertaining to my wireless mouse not connecting
[14:47] <caravel> agreaves: ok (I just read back the IRC log too). So yes, type that dmesg command, or maybe, just unplug, replug the reciever, and just do : dmesg | tail -n 50 | pastebinit
[14:50] <agreaves> I typed that command in the terminal window and it said unknown level
[14:58] <aguitel> anyway to compile gwibber?
[14:59] <caravel> agreaves: which command ? dmesg | tail -n 50 | pastebinit
[15:00] <caravel> agreaves: this command did return the message "unknown level" ?!
[15:01] <agreaves> yes
[15:02] <caravel> agreaves: this is not possible, it should return an hyperlink
[15:02] <caravel> agreaves: and you should provide us with the hyperlink, so we can look at your messages
[15:02] <agreaves> let me try again
[15:02] <caravel> agreaves: copy and paste, don't type it yourself
[15:04] <agreaves> http://paste.ubuntu.com/941167/
[15:04] <caravel> agreaves: were you really offered 12.04 automatically by the update system ? or did you do anything special to update ?
[15:04]  * gnomefreak lost, please feel free to update me on the issue
[15:05] <ozpy> Hi. I run ubuntu 12.04... For the last 5 days it can update. Message: "Impossible to get repositories"
[15:05] <agreaves> i just opened the update manager and it brought up a message that a upgrade was available and I clicked upgrade
[15:05] <ozpy> it can't update
[15:05] <caravel> agreaves: please now, unplug and replug again, and repeat the command just once
[15:05] <jtaylor> ozpy: what does apt-get update on the terminal say?
[15:06] <ozpy> jtaylor: one sec
[15:06] <agreaves> did you see the link ?
[15:06] <caravel> agreaves: yes I did. Note, you can use keyUp to recall last command in the terminal
[15:06] <gnomefreak> ozpy: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[15:06] <agreaves> ok thank you
[15:08] <min|dvir|us> When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled, and I'm asked to remove them again, making an infinite loop. Any thoughts? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/585594/
[15:09] <ozpy> jtaylor: http://pastebin.com/QKJbiWDE
[15:09] <ozpy> how it helps
[15:10] <ozpy> hope*
[15:10] <agreaves> caravel what did you gather from my log?
[15:10] <ozpy> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/QKJbiWDE
[15:10] <jtaylor> ozpy: you have a ppa in your sources that does not publish for precise
[15:10] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: use update-manager -d to upgrade please
[15:10] <jtaylor> remove the ubuntu-clamav ppa or just wait until they do
[15:10] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: I already did.
[15:11] <jtaylor> ozpy: also the spotify and medibuntu ppas seem to lack public keys
[15:11] <ozpy> jtaylor: They will remove it when 12.04 goes official?
[15:11] <gnomefreak> ozpy: ok are you one 12.04 or trying to get on ie
[15:11] <min|dvir|us> dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade your distribution... It just upgrades the packages, like upgrade, except takes care of some dependencies.
[15:11] <caravel> agreaves: I ask you to repeat, just to make sure (it seems the disconnection is auto after discovery)
[15:11] <jtaylor> ozpy: they likely will publish packages for 12.04 when its released and the wrning will go away
[15:12] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: update-manger -d wil;l let you upgrade to 10.04
[15:12] <ozpy> gnomefreak: ie= INternet explorer?
[15:12] <caravel> ozpy: seems like your source list contain way too many repos (to my taste)
[15:12] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: do you understand my problem?
[15:12] <gnomefreak> sorry that should be it
[15:12] <gnomefreak> it
[15:12] <caravel> (sorry, hadn't see the above answers)
[15:12] <min|dvir|us> When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled, and I'm asked to remove them again, making an infinite loop. Any thoughts? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/585594/
[15:12] <agreaves> http://paste.ubuntu.com/941192/
[15:12] <jtaylor> ozpy: but you should take care of the public key issue
[15:12] <agreaves> there is the link again
[15:13] <jtaylor> its insecure to load packages without verification
[15:13] <ozpy> jtaylor: how to take care of public key issue pal?
[15:13] <gnomefreak> you have failure on 1 repo you have failure on 2 repos gpg keys and you should be using update0manager to uupgrade  to 12.04 as it will disable all non0official repos
[15:13] <pangolin> who broke nvidia-current?
[15:13] <pangolin> I am not pleased :(
[15:13] <caravel> agreaves: oh, ok -- so your system keeps adding and removing yourdevice on its own...
[15:13] <gnomefreak> ozpy: ^^
[15:13] <MrChrisDruif> pangolin; you did?
[15:13] <jtaylor> ozpy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[15:14] <pangolin> MrChrisDruif, wasn't me
[15:14] <jtaylor> ozpy: do you really need medibuntu? I haven't used that since ~ 9.XX
[15:14] <MrChrisDruif> ;-)
[15:14] <caravel> agreaves: please type my nick in your replies, there is traffic here -- ok. Next : lsusb -v | pastebinit
[15:14] <ozpy> jtaylor: I don't need medibuntu...
[15:14] <caravel> jtaylor: isn't medibuntu needed for eg. libdvdcss2 ?
[15:14] <gnomefreak> ozpy: medibuntu is not up to date and most likely wont be for a while. last i heard they lost alot of thier oacakgers
[15:15] <ozpy> gnomefreak: I see. I never use it
[15:15] <ozpy> thanks
[15:15] <caravel> oh
[15:15] <agreaves> caravel http://paste.ubuntu.com/941197/
[15:16] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade to a new release
[15:16] <gnomefreak> ozpy: np
[15:16] <agreaves> caravel: it said couldnt open device
[15:16] <gnomefreak> ozpy: also the "extra" repo you have is useless now
[15:17] <caravel> ozpy:  jtaylor: gnomefreak: well, two days ago I installed "non-free-codecs libdvdcss2" from medibuntu on a beta2 persistent liveusb, and it worked as a charm
[15:17] <caravel> (to play a commercial dvd)
[15:17] <gnomefreak> caravel: they are up for 12.04?
[15:18] <sveinse> I'm trying to run precise on VB. The host machine has a VPN connection, which for some reason the precise guest isn't able to resolve. It's just dns which does not resolve, IP based access to the VPN works. I notice my guest is running dnsmasq. This is new, what's up with this?
[15:18] <gnomefreak> maybe they got thier devs back
[15:18] <gnomefreak> brb gonna try this
[15:18] <caravel> gnomefreak: this section of the French community tutorial is what I followed to setup their repo http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/medibuntu#deuxieme_methodeavec_le_terminal
[15:19] <caravel> gnomefreak: and that just worked, so yes I suppose they're ready for 12.04
[15:19] <gnomefreak> yay they are back :)
[15:19] <caravel> :D
[15:19] <caravel> agreaves: sudo lsusb -v | pastebinit
[15:19] <Klikini> :-D
[15:20] <gnomefreak> caravel: i already had the repos, i just adjusted them for persice
[15:20] <caravel> gnomefreak: sure :D that's the purpose of the embedded `lsb_release -cs` in the cli method I exposed above :D
[15:21]  * gnomefreak not getting a hot-babe update :(
[15:22] <agreaves> caravel http://paste.ubuntu.com/941210/
[15:23] <sveinse> NM reports DNS to be two network servers, but /etc/resolv.conf reports <IP_ADDRESS>. Why could this be?
[15:27] <kklimonda> sveinse: when you use NM it starts a local dns resolver
[15:27] <caravel> agreaves: sudo lspci -v | pastebinit
[15:28] <sveinse> kklimonda: Which doesn't use the proper networked DNS servers it seems. I'm unable to lookup certain private dns entries
[15:28]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke
[15:28] <agreaves> caravel http://paste.ubuntu.com/941216/
[15:29] <kklimonda> sveinse: you can check /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf to see what name servers it uses
[15:30] <kklimonda> but it should be using what NM sets
[15:30] <sveinse> kklimonda: Interestingly all of them are listed
[15:31] <caravel> agreaves: ok, I'm afraid I'm not knowledgeable enough to assist you further :/ here is what I understand from your problem
[15:31] <caravel> all : may I escalate this please !
[15:31] <caravel> :)
[15:31] <sveinse> (Note this is precise running on VBox, and the host machine (natty) has an active VPN connection)
[15:32] <sveinse> However network is working. Access by IP works, so it's something related to DNS
[15:32] <caravel> agreaves: so, you have 4 usb controllers on your system as shown here http://paste.ubuntu.com/941216/ And only one device is listed on one of them here http://paste.ubuntu.com/941210/  (that's your webcam)
[15:33] <agreaves> the webcam is a built into the laptop
[15:33] <agreaves> caravel im wondering if the mouse is being detected as a webcam
[15:34] <fishcooker> hello fellas...
[15:34] <fishcooker> where is the link for viewing list of the bugs @PP?
[15:34] <caravel> agreaves: No. Then your USB mouse is detected on controller number "1d.2", but your system keeps detecting and disconnecting it, in some sort of loop. This happens all the time, consistently, wether you connect or disconnect it or not as shown here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/941192/
[15:34] <caravel> agreaves: I would only ask these last questions, that's all I can do myself
[15:35] <caravel> agreaves: 1) can you confirm this mouse is working fine on another PC ?
[15:35] <agreaves> yes it works on this same laptop in windows
[15:35] <caravel> agreaves: ok. 2) do you know if the same happens on all USB ports on your Ubuntu ?
[15:36] <agreaves> i tried all the ports and its the same problem in ubuntu
[15:37] <caravel> agreaves: ok 3) do you know the USB devices ID ? usually on the form "173f:34a0", they reprensent the hardware vendor and device
[15:37] <agreaves> caravel i dont know it, how can I find it?
[15:38] <datruth_> I'm using 12.04 kubuntu LTS and my laptop is asus g74sx altho this release has fixed my sound issue i'm wounder if the keyboard backlights is still an issue? Can I control the brightness off the keys and how to enable and disable the lights?
[15:38] <caravel> agreaves: well, try this with luck, but I doubt it ^^ ( sudo lsusb && sudo lsusb && sudo lsusb ) | pastebinit
[15:39] <agreaves> caravel include the apprentices?
[15:39] <caravel> agreaves: the parenthesis ? yes
[15:39] <agreaves> k
[15:40] <caravel> agreaves: that's to send it all to pastebinit in one shot
[15:40] <agreaves> caravel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/941237/
[15:42] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: no it won't.
[15:42] <min|dvir|us> When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled, and I'm asked to remove them again, making an infinite loop. Any thoughts? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/585594/
[15:42] <caravel> agreaves: oh ok -- so it's just me who wasn't capable of reading your logs .. your mouse is this one right ? Bus 006 Device 014: ID 0603:1602 Novatek Microelectronics Corp
[15:43] <agreaves> caravel: thats what im thinking
[15:43] <agreaves> caravel: I never even saw that myself
[15:44] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: yes it will if you are talking about dist-upgrade. you just have to adjust your sources.list file run update than run dist-upgrade
[15:44] <caravel> as seen in your dmesg, on the middle of the string generic-usb 0003:0603:1602.1164
[15:44] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: have you ever tried not changing the sources.list file and running dist-upgrade?
[15:44] <min|dvir|us> Have you ever ran dist-upgrade?
[15:44] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: yes i do it all the time :)
[15:44] <gnomefreak> ive been using ubuntu sice breezy
[15:44] <caravel> agreaves: but for some reason it didn't show up earlier in lsusb -v
[15:45] <agreaves> caravel: thats what I realize
[15:45] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: then you would know dist-upgrade doesn't specifically upgrade to a new release.
[15:45] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: it can be used to
[15:45] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: right, but what would make you think that from what I said?
[15:46] <min|dvir|us> "When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled..."
[15:46] <caravel> agreaves: so now we can google for it better maybe :) https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056608985
[15:46] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: you said it cantupgrade to new dist  you were too general in your comment
[15:46] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: no I didn't.
[15:46] <sveinse> What else can I do? dnsmasq lists the correct DNS servers, yet it does not resolve properly. dig (using on of the server in dnsmasq lists) reports correct entries
[15:46] <min|dvir|us> When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled, and I'm asked to remove them again, making an infinite loop. Any thoughts? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/585594/
[15:46] <caravel> agreaves: this is the search I made https://www.google.fr/search?q=0603%3A1602+mouse+ubuntu
[15:47] <caravel> agreaves: so you see, that user has the same problem : lsusb sometimes list it, sometimes not -- that's explained because we saw in your dmesg that it keep registrering/deregistering it
[15:47] <gnomefreak> .:11:11:38:. <     min|dvir|us > dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade your  distribution... It just upgrades the  packages, like upgrade, except takes care of  some dependencies.
[15:48] <agreaves> caravel: so what do we do from here?
[15:48] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: can you help me or not?
[15:48] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: i told you to try update-manager -d   what was the results?
[15:48] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: My release is already upgraded.
[15:48] <min|dvir|us> I don't know why you think I'm having trouble with that.
[15:49] <min|dvir|us> I didn't give you any hint of that.
[15:49] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: you more than likely have a package or some that are causing dependancy issues
[15:49] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: right. Want to help diagnose?
[15:49] <caravel> agreaves: register to this thread which we found in the previous post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1667460
[15:49] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: you already on 12.04?
[15:49] <min|dvir|us> Yes...
[15:49] <min|dvir|us> That's why I'm here.
[15:49] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: ok does update0-manager help?
[15:49] <min|dvir|us> No.
[15:50] <caravel> agreaves: say you have the same problem, and specify your device id (which is different to that other user's)
[15:50] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: there is a package or some.... do you have ppas enabled?
[15:50] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: yes, many, but none with :i386 builds.
[15:50] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: better yet please pastebin your /etc/apt/souyrces.list
[15:50] <caravel> agreaves: same vendor, different device -- same chip I guess
[15:50] <gnomefreak> sources.list
[15:50] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: my PPAs are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/.
[15:51] <gnomefreak> than post both files
[15:51] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: That's a directory.
[15:51] <caravel> agreaves: next, search launchpad for a bug report, open one if there is none open yet, and until this is fixed, use another mouse :D
[15:51] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: I have many files in that directory.
[15:51] <min|dvir|us> I'm not going to GZIP you my entire repository settings.
[15:51] <min|dvir|us> If you can't help, you can't help.
[15:51] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: since when are repos able to be 64bit or 386. last i heard they are both
[15:51] <agreaves> caravel: how do I search launchpad
[15:52] <sveinse> Oh. Does dnsmasq treat the server list in /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf as a list of equals, using a kind of round-robin mechanism?
[15:52] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: since multiarch support was introduced in 11.10 I believe.
[15:52] <caravel> agreaves: some devices need specific support in kernel, but their vendor do not contribute to the kernel for this to happen well, they only collaborate with Microsoft -- so you're stuck with this or that OS to use them
[15:52] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: than someone else can help you but you have a depends problem due to your sources.list(.d)
[15:52] <caravel> agreaves: go to launchpad web site and search for the same thing
[15:52] <sveinse> That will have interesting effects when using VPNs out there, imho
[15:52]  * gnomefreak goes back to work
[15:53] <agreaves> caravel: launchpad.com?
[15:53] <caravel> agreaves: here you are, found one https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+question/171382
[15:53] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: I'm pretty sure there's a broken package.
[15:53] <min|dvir|us> In the mainline repos.
[15:53] <caravel> agreaves: that's your precise problem
[15:53] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: i know there is
[15:53] <caravel> agreaves: register to that thread and provide your info
[15:53] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: which one?
[15:54] <agreaves> caravel: ok
[15:54] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: dont know the info you have provided doesnt tell me
[15:54] <datruth_> How can I disable the startup sound?
[15:54] <caravel> agreaves: version 12.04, device is Bus 006 Device 014: ID 0603:1602 Novatek Microelectronics Corp
[15:54] <fishcooker> is there any link with list of bugs of PP
[15:54] <fishcooker> ?
[15:54] <min|dvir|us> Right.
[15:54] <min|dvir|us> When I remove these packages and then dist-upgrade again, they get reinstalled, and I'm asked to remove them again, making an infinite loop. Any thoughts? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/585594/
[15:54] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: since noone else has your problem im going to say it is nott in main repos
[15:55] <caravel> agreaves: oh, did you try to adjust the BIOS setting as suggested in the ticket ?
[15:55] <agreaves> how do I do that?
[15:55] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: there are many packages that are now transitional packages, that you wouldn't have.
[15:55] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: I just upgraded, so it could be a dirty upgrade path.
[15:55] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: you sure?
[15:55] <caravel> agreaves: boot the PC, enter your BIOS (read your PC's USer Manual or try F1 or Esc or another F key, depends on your BIOS)
[15:56] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: I'm 100% certain a) I just upgraded, and b) there are many transitional packages (many of which I removed).
[15:56] <agreaves> caravel: ok let me go try that
[15:56] <gnomefreak> min|dvir|us: it can be one of many reposons but it smells like a broken package. did you try running sudo apt-get -f install?
[15:56] <caravel> agreaves: and search for the "USB legacy" parameter, enable it
[15:56] <caravel> agreaves: then, save the settings and try again booting Ubuntu
[15:56] <agreaves> caravel: be right back
[15:56] <caravel> agreaves: sure
[15:57] <gnomefreak> did you try to chace the problem by disabvling all your non-official repos yet?
[15:57] <Logan_> LjL: Where's the party bot in #ubuntu-release-party? :-P
[15:57] <agreaves> caravel: should I leave the usb receiver plugged before I boot ubuntu?
[15:57] <datruth_> nvm got it
[15:57] <caravel> agreaves: doesn't matter, but yes
[15:58] <gnomefreak> disabling even
[15:58] <agreaves> k
[15:58] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: the problem was ia32-libs.
[15:58] <min|dvir|us> I just fixed it.
[15:59] <gnomefreak> wasnt that renamed
[15:59] <min|dvir|us> gnomefreak: no, it was removed, due to multiarch support.
[15:59] <gnomefreak> yep it was renamed
[15:59] <min|dvir|us> What's your source?
[15:59] <gnomefreak> ia32-libs-multiarch is the new pakcage
[16:02] <gnomefreak> source == apt-cache search
[16:03] <gnomefreak> brb
[16:04] <Agreaves> caravel: Im still having the problem
[16:05] <Agreaves> the only different is now lsusb finds the receiver plugged in
[16:06] <caravel> Agreaves: ok, that may be a progress ? do you still have all the messages in dmesg | tail ?
[16:07] <Agreaves> caravel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/941255/
[16:08] <Agreaves> yes
[16:08] <caravel> Agreaves: still as ugly as before
[16:08] <caravel> Agreaves: ok, 2 things
[16:09] <caravel> Agreaves: 1) please register on launchpad and subscribe to this post https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/171382 so you get notified (lots of people watching already...)
[16:09] <caravel> Agreaves: add your info, saying that activating the BIOS option didn't work for you
[16:10] <caravel> Agreaves: then you might want to open a bug report -- I would think that the behavior is abnormal (your system should give up, not trying again and again to register it I think, this is unnecessary activity)
[16:10] <|Anthony|> anyone have issues with lightdm being undead?
[16:10] <|Anthony|> zombie
[16:11] <|Anthony|> for me, every time i log out of a user acct., and into another i get a zombie lightdm
[16:11] <caravel> Agreaves: 2) as I suggested before, I would just use another mouse on GNU/Linux OS until your device is supported...
[16:11] <caravel> Agreaves: maybe someone else can help you better, I can't
[16:11] <Agreaves> caravel: im registering at launchpad
[16:12] <Agreaves> caravel: whats GNU/Linux
[16:12] <caravel> Agreaves: on launchpad, please specify your exact product name (as printed eg. on the box you bought)
[16:12] <Agreaves> caravel it never came in a box, i got it from ebay
[16:12] <Agreaves> caravel: it came from china
[16:13] <caravel> Agreaves: GNU/Linux -> https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux distribution
[16:15] <caravel> Agreaves: well, provide the lsusb info at least, that's a good start... and the fact it still occurs in 12.04, you can give your kernel version too (as returned by the command uname -rm )
[16:15] <caravel> Agreaves: do you have more now with : lsusb -v
[16:16] <caravel> Agreaves: sudo lsusb -v | pastebinit
[16:16] <Agreaves> caravel: let me check
[16:18] <Agreaves> caravel:http://paste.ubuntu.com/941273/
[16:19] <Agreaves> caravel: still nothing new
[16:20] <Agreaves> caravel: its totally disconnected now
[16:21] <caravel> Agreaves: plug it once last time and try: ( sudo lsusb -v -d 0603:1602 && sudo lsusb -v -d 0603:1602 && sudo lsusb -v -d 0603:1602 ) | pastebinit
[16:23] <Agreaves> caravel: it says trying to send an empty document
[16:24] <caravel> Agreaves: ok ^^ well, that's it for me. Did your ebay vendor say it would work on GNU/Linux operating systems ?
[16:25] <Agreaves> caravel: I never asked, but thank you very much for your effort
[16:25] <caravel> Agreaves: you're welcome, I hope you learned something at least :)
[16:26] <Agreaves> yep
[16:28] <caravel> Agreaves: Hardware vendor lack of support is our main issue I think, still today -- better search and test if you can before buying any hardware, and contribute to he lobbying with hardware vendors :)
[16:28] <caravel> the*
[16:44] <caravel> Agreaves: thanks for your comment on launchpad, can you please also mention 1) your lsusb output "Bus 006 Device 014: ID 0603:1602 Novatek Microelectronics Corp" 2) your "uname -a" output ? 3) the fact lsusb sees it but not lsusb -v That may help other
[16:51] <gnomefreak> what is the apport command to add info to bug# "apport-something bug#"
[16:52] <jtaylor> apport-collect
[16:57] <dougl> is/does compiz work on 12 4 and when can I expect a release?
[16:58] <ironhalik> dougl: Read the topic.
[16:58] <gnomefreak> release is the 27 IIRC but if you look in the topic you will find a link and yes compiz is working fine here
[16:59] <Daekdroom> 26th
[16:59] <ironhalik> Unity is kinda based on compiz, bane of my laptop
[16:59]  * gnomefreak still think it is very late to name next release :(
[17:01] <dougl> thanks... :)
[17:01] <ironhalik> Hmm, wasnt there some contest regarding 12.10 name?
[17:02] <dlentz> ironhalik, it's fedora that opens naming to public voting
[17:02] <ironhalik> yeah
[17:02] <jbicha> gnomefreak: last cycle, he waited until 8 days before release to announce the next name, it needs to be announced before the archives for the next release can open
[17:02] <ironhalik> I meant that one: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/guess-the-name-of-ubuntu-12-10-and-win-an-ubuntu-t-shirt/
[17:02] <gnomefreak> we used to ther eis a list on a website that names the choices that mark+devs will decide)
[17:04] <IntuitiveNipple> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[17:05] <gnomefreak> ironhalik: thats not offficial. you are to guess what it is after it is already picked
[17:05] <gnomefreak> official even
[17:05] <ironhalik> gnomefreak: yeah, noticed that now
[17:05] <ironhalik> I just saw the headline some time ago and had it in the back of my mind
[17:07] <gnomefreak> only 11 more cds than im finally done ripping at least for a while
[17:11] <datruth_> How does one destroy the kde wallet service?
[17:16] <ironhalik> anyone tried installing dropbox in 12.04? It says there is an unmet dependencie, libnautilus-extension1
[17:17] <ironhalik> ah, it _is_ in the repos, with fixed dependencies
[17:17] <abyrne561> ironhalik, did you try to force the install? If I understand correctly, the nautilusextension is just for pretty emblems
[17:18] <sveinse> dnsmasq is really misbehaving for me: it does not resolve the private VPN dns entries.
[17:19] <tanath> can someone help me troubleshoot video? while booting i get video input out of range from my monitor until X shows up. this makes recovery mode unusable.
[17:19] <ironhalik> abyrne561: I installed it from the repos, didnt know it is in there
[17:19] <ironhalik> so its all ok now
[17:19] <sveinse> It seems dnsmasq is using some round-robin mechanism for its dns server, which won't work in a vpn setting
[17:20] <abyrne561> ironhalik, Alrite. Cheers!
[17:21] <IntuitiveNipple> sveinse: dnsmasq is a caching proxy/forwarder. You'd have to tell it about the VPN's DNS server for the desired subnet.
[17:21] <ironhalik> :)
[17:24] <sveinse> IntuitiveNipple: First of all, IP-based networking to the VPN works, so its not a routing issue. Secondly, my precise machine is a guest VBox machine running on a guest machine which has the VPN connection. When precise asks for a DHCP address from the VM network, it gets a list of three DNS addresses, the two first to the DNS server on the VPN network, the last for the host's LAN dns server.
[17:26] <sveinse> tcpdump reveals that dnsmasq is asking the LAN's DNS server instead of the VPN DNS servers
[17:26] <IntuitiveNipple> sveinse: Ahhh, OK. So, dnsmasq is on the client virtual machine?
[17:27] <sveinse> Yes
[17:27] <sveinse> Vanilla precise installation
[17:27] <IntuitiveNipple> sveinse: I follow the dnsmasq mailing list quite avidly and I recall over the last 3 months reading a few postings explaining how to set it up on your scenario. It might be worth browsing the web-accessible mailing list dnsmasq-discuss
[17:28] <sveinse> This haven't been any problem before, since the guest machines use the DNS server in the order given by the DHCP offer. It seems dnsmasq is not following the same order, which causes it to ask the wrong DNS server
[17:29] <dougl> if I installed a beta would an update bring me to up to date with the final release after release date?
[17:30] <IntuitiveNipple> sveinse: yes, I recall something to do with a change in the way it queries upstream servers if it gets a response
[17:30] <gnomefreak> dougl: yes
[17:31] <dougl> gnomefreak, thanks :)
[17:32] <gnomefreak> np
[17:32] <gnomefreak> although we really arnt gonna havev alot of upgdates this week
[17:33] <dougl> err, sorry to bug you guys but... and compiz eyecandy (wobbly windows and desktop cube) works on beta?
[17:34] <gnomefreak> dont know i dont play with it
[17:34] <Daekdroom> Desktop Cube is not compatible with Unity
[17:34] <Daekdroom> Atleast not officially.
[17:34] <Daekdroom> Wobbly Windows break some other Unity features too, I think, but is compatible.
[17:35] <stefg> Hi, can someone recommend a tv application for precise that actually works with DVB-T? me-tv is broken, gnome dvb daemon never worked, and i'd rather not resort to monsters like mythtv/vdr/xbmc for an occasional news show... ??
[17:35] <dougl> Daekdroom, yeah those options broke my 11 10 install and I could not recover - thanks for the insight
[17:36] <gnomefreak> stefg: did you try mythbuntu apps? i think that is the name mythtv
[17:36] <Daekdroom> dougl, in case you break your Unity, run 'unity --reset' in a terminal and everything will be reset to default.
[17:37] <stefg> gnomefreak: see above... i /could/ use it, but mythtv is a media center monster, with loads of services running in the background. i want something more suitable to a general workstation, not a media cneter
[17:38] <dougl> Daekdroom, good to know... I wonder if I missed that tip in the ubuntu channel when I tried to recover - lol
[17:38] <gnomefreak> stefg: check using a package manager for apps in mythbuntu-desktop package
[17:38] <stefg> gnomefreak: good idea
[17:39]  * gnomefreak watches tv on a tv
[17:40]  * stefg doesnt even own a tv anymore :-)
[17:42] <caravel> Anyone, is 12.04 supposed to be pushed via update manager to all users, as yet ?
[17:42] <stefg> certainly not
[17:43] <caravel> stefg: well, that's what I thought... a beginner reported an issue here, earlier today, and stated it came via standard update manager...
[17:44] <stefg> caravel: he most likely tinkered with his sources list, or did some update-manager operation not intended for .... peaple not knowing what they're doing ...
[17:44] <gnomefreak> you have to use -d still until thursday at least
[17:45] <gnomefreak> once released it should offer the upgrade
[17:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Maybe he fast-forwarded the system clock? :p
[17:45]  * stefg reads auto-update as 'auto-breakage'
[17:45] <skulltip> is it best to install the release or is it ok to install the latest beta
[17:45] <caravel> stefg: well maybe, but really didn't seem to know anything about the cli ... if you have the IRC log, see around 15:04 GMT  <agreaves> i just opened the update manager and it brought up a message that a upgrade was available and I clicked upgrade
[17:46] <IntuitiveNipple> I upgraded from Oneiric and it's been pretty stable
[17:46] <stefg> caravel: that's not necessarily a 12.04 update ...
[17:47] <stefg> could have been a EOL notice for 10.10
[17:47] <gnomefreak> that or sources.list was adjusted
[17:48]  * gnomefreak doesnt use update-manager anymore
[17:48] <Daekdroom> I like update-manager.
[17:49]  * stefg doesn't even upgrade .... reinstall and restore /home
[17:49] <gnomefreak> update-manager isnt set up for -d when i upgrade
[17:50] <maxb> wc #ubuntu-release
[17:50] <maxb> oops
[17:53] <caravel> stefg: is 3.2.0-23 distributed in 11.10 ?
[17:54] <caravel> bah, "anyway" -- it's silly but I believe what that user said ^^
[17:55] <stefg> caravel: no idea.... i dodged everything since 10.04 :-)
[17:55] <caravel> stefg: :D
[17:57] <Daekdroom> I can't figure out why XChat autojoins the channels before identifying me.
[17:58] <Arnold> I guess after a few recent updates, I can't use a certain resolution for my LCD monitor. The graphics card is a GeForce 9 series, using the proprietary NVIDIA driver. Any way to use a custom resolution?
[17:59] <FernandoMiguel> Daekdroom: that's just SLOWWWW services
[18:00] <natman> i put ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 onto a usb stick, and tried to test it on my laptop ( 1.6ghz, centrino dual core, 2gb ram, very small nvidia gfx card ), i get to the screen that asks " Try it or install it", once i click "Try it" the screen goes black apart from the white cursor - and thats it , nothing more happens i need to hold power button to turn off.
[18:02] <FernandoMiguel> !release > FernandoMiguel
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> !date > FernandoMiguel
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> what's the exact day of the release?
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> bot only says april
[18:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Thursday
[18:04] <IntuitiveNipple> 26th
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> thanks
[18:04] <IntuitiveNipple> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> I should have known
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> it's almost always on Thursdays
[18:05] <gnomefreak> it is always on thursdays
[18:05] <gnomefreak> has been for a long while
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> gnomefreak: I know.....
[18:06] <FernandoMiguel> I remember when we even did a chart for the Hour :p
[18:06] <FernandoMiguel> so expect it at 14h GMT
[18:06] <FernandoMiguel> need to get ready for the following Monday..... 12.10 :D
[18:10] <BeowsaBob> Having problems with 12.04-kubuntu-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:10] <BeowsaBob> beta2
[18:13] <minimec> BeowsaBob: alternative... --> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:14] <BeowsaBob> is there a KDE alternative?
[18:14]  * gnomefreak not going to guess the problem
[18:14] <gnomefreak> gnome xfce and many more
[18:14] <natman> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ BeowsaBob
[18:14] <BeowsaBob> Thanks
[18:14] <astraljava> Yeah the only exception was 10.10(.10)
[18:27] <hareldvd> Upgrade to 12.04 beta terminated before cleanup. Can cleanup be performed after boot on new OS?
[18:28] <manish> hareldvd: apt-get autoclean
[18:28] <hareldvd> didn't clean much.
[18:30] <hareldvd> Any other cleaning I can perform (disk usage is much more than expected.)
[18:31] <astraljava> autoclean doesn't do anything, yet. For immediate results, `sudo apt-get clean` will clear the cache.
[18:32] <astraljava> Well, I was a bit confusing with that. Of course it _might_ remove something, but clean takes them all away.
[18:34] <natman> i am unable to install ubuntu 12.04 to my laptop
[18:34] <ubuntu123> I used the ubuntu CD to install Ubuntu then install xubuntu via aptitude, now i want to get rid of ubuntu-desktop ... how would i do that
[18:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu123: you want to get rid of ubuntu packages?
[18:36] <ubuntu123> the whole ubuntu desktop
[18:36] <ubuntu123> I'm using Xubuntu now
[18:36] <gnomefreak> because you have xfce installed you have to get rid of the packages one by one using a package manager
[18:36] <ubuntu123> Nah i'm sure there's a more simple/efficient method than that
[18:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu123: they both rely on gtk but you can start with removing unity
[18:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu123: since both are gtk there really isnt
[18:37] <gnomefreak> they share apps
[18:37] <penguin42> and lightdm probably uses some of the unity libs
[18:38] <ubuntu123> Most thrilling.
[18:38] <jussi> !purexfce
[18:38] <ubuntu123> Seen it
[18:38] <ubuntu123> No good for ubuntu 12
[18:38] <astraljava> That's a rather misleading factoid name. Pure Xfce != Xubuntu.
[18:38] <hareldvd> Also I can't find taskbar, desktop switcher and main menu. Did my upgrade break more seriously then I estimated?
[18:39] <gnomefreak> Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric)
[18:41] <natman> can someone help me install ubunt 12.04
[18:41] <natman> ubuntu*
[18:41] <IntuitiveNipple> hareldvd: I had an issue with do-release-upgrade crashing part-way through and leaving the system in an inconsistent unbootable state. I managed to get into recovery mode, thought it was sorted, but had the same experience you describe with missing bits. I then did some dpkg and apt-get magic to get everything into shape.
[18:41] <ubuntu123> What desktop manager is ubuntu using now ?
[18:41] <gnomefreak> natman: stick the cd in and follow directions on screen
[18:41] <ubuntu123> Is it still GDM or have they butchered something else ?
[18:42] <penguin42> ubuntu123: Lightdm with a choice of greeters; lightdm doesn't actually seem too bad
[18:42] <penguin42> ubuntu123: You can configure it to use either a unity style greeter or a lighter one
[18:42] <IntuitiveNipple> gnomefreak: natman previously said "...i get to the screen that asks " Try it or install it", once i click "Try it" the screen goes black apart from the white cursor - and thats it , nothing more happens i need to hold power button to turn off."
[18:42] <gnomefreak> you can?
[18:42] <ubuntu123> Rather be greeted with the command line
[18:42] <gnomefreak> oh
[18:42] <penguin42> gnomefreak: Yeh, the unity one is a separate package and there's a config somewhere
[18:42] <natman> gnomefreak: when i stick the CD and get to the bit that asks " Try it" or "install it", clicking eitehr option makes creen go all dark except for mouse- i left it alone makes no differemce
[18:43] <penguin42> ubuntu123: Then take all the dm's out
[18:43] <ubuntu123> w0rd.
[18:43] <penguin42> gnomefreak: in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf I think
[18:44] <gnomefreak> penguin42: thanks
[18:44] <penguin42> having said that, I actually like that greeter
[18:46] <hareldvd> /usr/lib takes 3 GB. (I would call my install "typical") is it too big?
[18:47] <hareldvd> Got a directory: /usr/lib/debug with lib and usr in it. Any idea(before I put it to rest)?
[18:47] <natman> ok guess no one can help me :(
[18:50] <jtaylor> hareldvd: thats from debug packages, you can remove those if you don't need them
[18:50] <Edico> can you open an app multiple times from the launcher?
[18:50] <jtaylor> dpkg -l | grep "\-dbg"
[18:51] <hareldvd> jtaylor, Thanks
[18:52] <PeterEH> Edico, mostly yes - by right-clicking
[18:52] <Edico> PeterEH, doesn't work on me
[18:53] <PeterEH> Edico, hmm I can do it on firefox, chromium and terminal, right click and select open new?
[18:54] <trism> Edico: also middle click
[18:55] <Edico> midle click works :)
[18:55] <Edico> but I don't have open new option on some icons
[18:55] <Edico> ex calculator
[18:58] <hareldvd> Should I have a main menu anywhere?
[18:58] <trism> Edico: yeah those will only be there for launchers that have actions defined in their .desktop file
[18:59] <IntuitiveNipple> That would be Quixotic :p
[18:59] <dougl> !topic
[19:01] <penguin42> oh wow - that's insane - nested KVM - PP host, with PPserver as a kvm guest, running a OO KVM guest!
[19:02] <dougl> I cannot find anything in unity is there a way to make it feel like ubuntu I love and am used to (10.10)?
[19:04] <trism> dougl: install gnome-panel and select gnome classic on the login screen (it is a bit different though)
[19:06] <dougl> trism, thanks
[19:06] <bcuraboy> hi everyone.how can i share my 3g connection of my pc via wifi?
[19:06] <jussi> !ics | bcuraboy
[19:06] <bcuraboy> i'm running ubuntu 12.04 on 32bits
[19:08] <dougl> can I paste a youtube link here of ubuntu 12.04?
[19:13] <bcuraboy> isn't there anything more simple? :D
[19:14] <jussi> dougl: if its relevant to an issue you are having, sure
[19:15] <glosoli> When you do logout in Precise it seems that after loging in sound output is picked wrong from the list, so you get no sound until you pick the proper one, only happens for logout things for me. any can say if the same thing happens to you ?
[19:17] <airlynx> I need some serious help right now, on plugging in a USB headset my system booted out of XFCE with a message about stopping System V something or other, so I tried startx to get back into a GUI but it failed, now when I reboot I get the login manager but when I log in it lists the same error as before then goes back to the login manager, I'm stuck in TTY land using lynx and ircii
[19:18] <airlynx> I tried to switch to gdm instead of lightdm and it won't even load the login manager at all
[19:19] <mcdonc_> you can try to mv ~/.config ~/.config_aside
[19:21] <airlynx> mcdonc_, do I need to sudo that?
[19:21] <mcdonc_> no
[19:22] <airlynx> when I try to "startx" it gives something about error locking /home/airlynx/.Xauthority
[19:23] <spaceneedle> I installed the nvidia driver but it crashed my system. Had to uninstall them.
[19:23] <spaceneedle> I think the inetl driver are more stable.
[19:25] <mcdonc_> airlynx: find the pid of lightdm and/or gdm (via "ps axwww|grep lightdm") then kill that process via sudo
[19:25] <mcdonc_> sudo kill theprocessnumber
[19:25] <mcdonc_> then try starting x again
[19:26] <sveinse> How can I control the nm-dhclient options?
[19:28] <airlynx> okay, ran the first one I saw "3519 tty3 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto lightdm", so I ran sudo kill 3519, but then it says no such process
[19:28] <mcdonc_> that was your grep process
[19:28] <mcdonc_> guess lightdm isnt running
[19:28] <airlynx> lol, ok
[19:28] <mcdonc_> might reboot
[19:30] <airlynx> actually on this reboot I was trying out gdm, so I ran "sudo ps x" and saw gdm-primary, so I killed that process
[19:31] <bcuraboy> guys,the solution that the bot showed me,only works for wifi conections.what i wanna share is my 3g connection through wifi
[19:31] <airlynx> startx still does not run
[19:32] <airlynx> going to try to reboot, gdm is configured back to lightdm, I'll be back if it doesn't work
[19:36] <airlynx> still not booting, I get to the login manager (lightdm this time) and can login but then it quits, lists the errors (something about Setting IRQ priorities) then goes right back to the login manager
[19:37] <airlynx> tried mv ~/.config ~/.config_aside again, but it says no such file or directory
[19:37] <airlynx> the login manager is running, but it will not let me login
[19:38] <trism> airlynx: any errors in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log after you try to login?
[19:40] <airlynx> trism, I don't see any  error messages in lightdm.log
[19:41] <airlynx> I've tried logging in with the different sessions, but it won't even let me into the recovery console
[19:44] <airlynx> btw, before I rebooted last time I realized the USB headset was still connected so I removed it and ran startx again and it kept repeating "No Protocol Specified" and never started
[19:44] <fethio> airlynx: i don't remember exactly but i resolved a similar problem by removing a hidden file in my home directory which was set to prevent my username to open an X session.
[19:44] <airlynx> fethio, could that be .Xauthority? I saw that somewhere in here
[19:46] <fethio> nope, it was an asci file, something that started with .X or .x
[19:46] <fethio> it may also be residing under the /root directory
[19:47] <fethio> something that prevents your username from opening an X session
[19:47] <airlynx> okay, that got me a little somewhere, I typed mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.backup and tried logging in again, got a notification window that stated "Could not load Gnome Session" with an OK button, after I clicked okay it did the same thing
[19:48] <airlynx> lol, I'm in XFCE now, but it's lost all my settings, I did the same thing as above, moved .Xauthority, then changed my session to XFCE, logged in success
[19:49] <airlynx> It gave me a popup when loading that said "Welcome to your First Boot" lol
[19:49] <fethio> :)
[19:50] <airlynx> where are XFCE's user settings located?
[19:50] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know which package generates the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file (I guess network-manager) but it defaulted to [ifupdown] managed=false which meant during boot (and after login) it couldn't find my network configuration (which meant no wifi after login)
[19:51] <MrChrisDruif> It was during the mini-install that it happened, but still...
[19:51] <MrChrisDruif> Should I file a bug against network-manager?
[19:56] <agreaves> is there anyway I can install generic wireless mouse drivers?
[19:56] <yeats> MrChrisDruif: I've seen the same thing happen doing an install from the alternate CD
[19:56] <MrChrisDruif> Seems like a bug to me then? Maybe someone already reported it yeats ?
[19:56] <yeats> I never took it seriously enough to file a bug about
[19:57] <yeats> MrChrisDruif: with the mini install, I would think it's the appropriate behavior, since you're not *required* to install network manager for your network to work
[19:58] <fragske> anyone else having problems with booting the kernel that comes with 12.04?
[19:58] <MrChrisDruif> No but I got the annoying message about "Waiting for network configuration"
[19:58] <MrChrisDruif> fragske; not me
[19:59] <BeowsaBob> yes
[19:59] <fragske> i have to boot 3.0.0-17-generic
[19:59] <fragske> it doesn't really bother me though, but I have to chose it manually in grub :)
[20:00] <yeats> fragske: I'm using 3.2.0-23-generic with no issues
[20:00] <BeowsaBob> Having problem with kubuntu precise-desktop-amd64.iso daily build.
[20:00] <fragske> mhh, let's see if i can install it from apt-get
[20:00] <yeats> BeowsaBob: details?
[20:01] <BeowsaBob> put on USB.  Boot start menu comes up.  kubuntu won't boot.
[20:02] <BeowsaBob> Black screen forever
[20:02] <yeats> !nomodeset | BeowsaBob
[20:03] <yeats> BeowsaBob: seen that?
[20:03] <BeowsaBob> Will have a look.
[20:03] <dougl> where do I find the option to change my computer name?
[20:08] <yeats> dougl: see the first part of this blog post: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/common-tasks-to-perform-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[20:08] <dougl> yeats, thanks
[22:32] <natman> hello, looking for some help trying to install ubuntu 12.04
[22:33] <yeats> natman: details?
[22:34] <natman> yeats: When i boot from live usb, i get to the screen thast asks "Try" or "Install" no matter which i pick, the whole screen bar the mouse goes dark - i left it for an hour, did nothing
[22:35] <yeats> !nomodeset | natman
[22:35] <yeats> natman: try that and see if it works
[22:38] <natman> ahh will try later, coould this also be the reason my new hp laptop always has zero brightness on the login screen
[22:39] <yeats> natman: no, that would be caused by something different methinks
[22:42] <minimec> natman: there is also a kernel option for your backlight issue. You can add this after install http://www.circuidipity.com/daniel.2011-04-05.intel_backlight_grub.html
[22:42] <natman> cool thx minimec
[22:43] <natman> Just another question my hp laptop has a "clickpad" ( i think thats the name, all in one touch pad, no buttons ) are they any better usported in 12.04 - for Kubuntu
[22:45] <minimec> natman: Yes they are. I have one of these... a hp dm4... You will have to add some touchpad options for 'right click'. Rest works out of the box.
[22:45] <natman> minimec:  yay im a dm4 too! :D
[22:46] <minimec> natman: So I can assure, that install is working for 12.04... ;) I just did one for my mum. I will boot i up to give you the touchpad settings. stay tuned...
[22:47] <Pedrolito> is it possible to dist-upgrade to 12.04 today?
[22:47] <natman> ty minimec
[22:48] <minimec> natman: Do you have the dual GPU version intel/AMD?
[22:49] <natman> minimec: mine is Intel core i5
[22:52] <minimec> natman: Some versions of the dm4 have a dual GPU solution (Intel GMA/AMD Radeon 5450). Do you have one of these?
[22:52] <natman> minimec: mine is http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02537237&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=ie&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=4314524
[22:53] <pepee> is someone having troubles with the mouse pointer?
[22:54] <minimec> natman: Ok. yours seems to be Intel GMA HD only. That makes the install much easier...
[22:54] <natman> pepee:  kinda, its a clickpad issue
[22:54] <Pedrolito> is it possible to upgrade to 12.04 today other than using the beta 2?
[22:54] <pepee> natman, give me more info, please
[22:54] <pepee> natman, synaptics touchpad?
[22:55] <Logan_> Pedrolito: You can download the daily build.
[22:55] <natman> pepee: its a hp clickpad, just wanted to know if its working in 12.04 minimec tells me it is,
[22:56] <pepee> natman, this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/962704
[22:56] <Logan_> I have an HP Clickpad.
[22:57] <natman> pepee: no, just the general right/left click and dragging
[22:57] <pepee> ahh k, different things I suppose
[22:57] <minimec> natman: "synclient RightButtonAreaTop=3500 RightButtonAreaLeft=3850" in a console will give you the 'right click'
[22:58] <Pedrolito> thanks Logan_
[22:58] <natman> many thanks minimec
[22:58] <Logan_> np Pedro
[22:59] <MrChrisDruif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Desktop_Interface
[22:59] <MrChrisDruif> 4th topic on there
[22:59] <cc11rocks> Are Ubuntu 12.04 fixes still going on or is it pretty much done?
[23:00] <MrChrisDruif> natman; dm4?
[23:00] <minimec> natman: Dragging is a different case. You have to dubble-touch the pad, haveing the pointer over the object you want to move. So dragging is a 'one-finger-operation'!
[23:01] <natman> ya MrChrisDruif
[23:01] <MrChrisDruif> Laptop? HP?
[23:02] <minimec> natman: I created a bash-script with that synclient command and added it to the start-applications.
[23:02] <jbicha> cc11rocks: most fixes now will be updates available after release
[23:02] <Logan_> cc11rocks: It's currently in a pre-release freeze.
[23:02] <bjsnider> jbicha, the totem decision was made because of the reliance on clutter?
[23:02] <minimec> MrChrisDruif: we are indeed talking about a HP dm4 laptop.
[23:03] <Infinite8> 124
[23:03] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, alright
[23:03] <natman> minimec: ya was thinking about doing that, guess ill have tons of fun come Friday night :D
[23:03] <Infinite8> Anyone know if there would be any disadvantages of installing a 32 bit distro on my 64 bit processor
[23:04] <glosoli> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[23:04] <glosoli>   gedit ubuntu-desktop
[23:04] <glosoli> I want to remove gedit hmm
[23:04] <minimec> natman: create a file with !# /bin/bash at the first line. then add the synclient line I posted. make it executable and add it via the stat-applications gui.
[23:04] <cc11rocks> jbicha Logan_ Thanks guys
[23:04] <glosoli> I am not sure if removing ubuntu-desktop meta is a good idea
[23:04] <Logan_> np
[23:04] <glosoli> anyone can comment that ?
[23:04] <natman> cool thanks minimec
[23:05] <Logan_> glosoli: Why would you want to remove gedit?
[23:05] <MrChrisDruif> Infinite8; 64 bit *capable* processor, but not real disadvantages
[23:05] <glosoli> Logan_: I never use it, and it shows up in my context menu which is already too long
[23:05] <Logan_> glosoli: It's a dependency of a standard Ubuntu installation.
[23:05] <cc11rocks> Infinite8 : More than 3 GB RAM will not be used
[23:05] <cc11rocks> Unless PAE is enabled Infinite9
[23:05] <Logan_> glosoli: That's why it is saying that removing it would also remove ubuntu-desktop
[23:05] <cc11rocks> *8
[23:05] <jbicha> bjsnider: right, we didn't want clutter on the CD for the LTS
[23:05] <glosoli> Logan_: what can go wrong for removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[23:06] <Logan_> glosoli: It makes it difficult to upgrade, for one.
[23:06] <Infinite8> MrChrisDruif:  Yea, only have 1GB for now, so I guess it really doesn't matter if I go 32 or 64 then
[23:06] <cc11rocks> Please confirm that Ubuntu 12.04 IS a CD release size (703MB or lower)
[23:06] <MrChrisDruif> cc11rocks; which is the case in the default 32 bit image
[23:06] <glosoli> Logan_: hmm
[23:06] <Logan_> cc11rocks: It will be.
[23:06] <glosoli> Logan_: any ideas how to take control of context menu
[23:06] <cc11rocks> MrChrisDruif : But isn't PAE not as fast/good as true 64 bit RAM handling
[23:06] <cc11rocks> ?
[23:06] <Logan_> Hmm.
[23:06] <cc11rocks> Logan_ thanks
[23:07] <Logan_> glosoli: How is it appearing in your context menu?
[23:07] <Logan_> cc11rocks: np
[23:07] <Infinite8> What's PAE
[23:07] <MrChrisDruif> cc11rocks; true, but still on the default 32 bit cd it's enabled
[23:07] <bjsnider> physical address extension
[23:07] <MrChrisDruif> Infinite8; Physical Address Extension
[23:07] <Logan_> !pae | Infinite8
[23:07] <cc11rocks> Kernel extentions to make the kernel use the extra GB's of RAM for 32 bit
[23:08] <glosoli> Logan_: when I right click on any file, I have by default SUblime Text 2, but it also shows Gedit bellow it, Precise context menu is already full of unusable stuff for me
[23:08] <MrChrisDruif> cc11rocks; there is at least for the mini-iso's of 12.04 a non-pae image
[23:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Infinite8: For less than 2GB RAM, 32-bit would be better for space reasons.
[23:08] <Infinite8> IntuitiveNipple:  Ok, cool
[23:08] <MrChrisDruif> I'm going to dig if for the previous releases (till 10.04) also have non-pae's, for Lubuntu ^_^
[23:09] <minimec> Infinite8: In your case, your idea going 32bit is not that bad. You will loose a little bit of performance, but you will have more RAM available. Obviously a 64bit system uses mire Ram than a 32bit system...
[23:09] <cc11rocks> Okay thanks guys...Going to watch Ubuntu 12.04 Review from LAS (Linux Action Show)
[23:09] <minimec> Infinite8: With 1GB RAM a 32 bit system might be better.
[23:10] <Infinite8> minimec:  Other concerns were if some of the 32 bit programs would work fine on the 64 bit
[23:10] <minimec> Infinite8: No problem for that. Even on 64bit systems, you will find some 32bit software. No problem with software.
[23:13] <Infinite8> k
[23:15] <pangolin> my monitor is stuck at 640x480 :/
[23:24] <Logan_> pangolin: LjL isn't responding to my requests for PartyBot. :-(
[23:24] <pepee> can someone help me with my touchpad?
[23:24] <minimec> pepee: What kind of touchpad?
[23:25] <pepee> I'll do this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection#In_case_at_least_one_of_Touchpad_features_works_but_does_not_work_correctly_and_as_expected
[23:25] <pepee> minimec, synaptics touchpad
[23:25] <pepee> minimec, this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/962704
[23:25] <pangolin> Logan_, keep trying, he owns it/controls it
[23:25] <pangolin> nothing I can do but tell you to be patient :)
[23:25] <Logan_> I WANT MY PARTYBOT.
[23:25] <Logan_> !caps | Logan_
[23:26] <minimec> pepee: Nope. I cannot help you here, I guess...
[23:26] <pepee> minimec, I can give you logs
[23:26] <pepee> ahh k :(
[23:28] <ian_mac2> Does anybody else have issues with Google Chrome complaining that Flash isn't up to date?  I thought Google Chrome had its own built in flash.
[23:31] <mdel> hey - im having an issue getting to the installer for 12.04 on a Mac
[23:32] <mdel> im using refit, and the installer just hangs at a random point during boot
[23:32] <minimec> ian_mac2: I do not have these issues. Chromium doesn't come with it's own flash player yet, I think. my version of adobe-flashplugin would be <IP_ADDRESS>-0precise1
[23:33] <pepee> mdel, checked the cd?
[23:33] <mdel> tried from CD and from USB
[23:34] <pepee> tried removing the splash screen, and looking for error messages?
[23:34] <mdel> yeah, but its doesn't seem to be an error
[23:36] <pepee> what does it do? just hangs?
[23:37] <mdel> yea.. let me swap machines and I'll grab the message
[23:37] <mdel> as i mentioned in #ubuntu, it affects 11.10 as well
[23:40] <Thete> am I going to have to do another do-release-upgrade when 12.04 comes out or if I do it now will it dist-upgrade to final?
[23:41] <trism> Thete: the latter, normal updates will get you to final
[23:41] <Thete> oh cool, thanks
[23:44] <mdel> pepee: back, 1 sec
[23:44] <pepee> k
[23:48] <mdel> pepee: [drm] nouveau PFOFP_INTR - CH 1
[23:48] <mdel> thats about it
[23:49] <pepee> mdel, nothing on google :/
[23:49] <pepee> mdel, tried using the vesa driver while using the livecd?
[23:49] <mdel> how?
[23:51] <pepee> mdel, create /etc/X11/xorg.conf with something like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[23:52] <pepee> mdel, only the "Device" section
[23:53] <mdel> pepee: for the live cd??
[23:54] <pepee> yep, could work, not sure
[23:54] <pepee> mdel, wait a second please
[23:55] <pepee> mdel, another method: put video=vesa in the kernel command line
[23:59] <mdel> pepee: wow... new error this time