[03:29] <CreatureX> evilghost, did you use a 64 bit install on your amd and the same cd for your hp?
[03:29] <Toma-> it might. 0.95 has more support i think
[03:29] <Dariuss> no, used the right cd...even tried burning it several times on different media
[03:30] <CreatureX> hm
[03:30] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Can you pass the noapic option to the installer?
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  so eh, to install it ...let me recall a .deb file.... ehh , not a tar, not sh ...
[03:31] <Toma-> its 'dpkg -i amsn-blah.deb'
[03:31] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Try this, linux vga=771 noapic nolapic acpi=off
[03:31] <Toma-> with sudo of course
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> oh :)
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> thx
[03:31] <Toma-> ;)
[03:31] <Dariuss> evilghost: this is where the whole 'being new' thing comes into play....
[03:32] <intelikey> be right back.
[03:32] <evilghost> Dariuss:  No problem bro, when the CD boots and it presents a input-prompt put in "linux vga=771 noapic nolapic acpi=off" minus the quotes.
[03:32] <Shadyman> Hi ubuntu!
[03:32] <Friar_tuck> What is the best way of programming applications for gnome/kde?
[03:32] <Shadyman> Friar_tuck: You mean both at the same time?
[03:32] <CreatureX> for what prgramming language?
[03:32] <Toma-> Friar_tuck: gnome = gtk, kde = qt.... 2 different things
[03:32] <yaaar> never mind about those .aac files....i just had to restart bmp after installing bmp-mp4
[03:33] <Dariuss> evilghost: oh, ok, so where it says to type in server for the base system...
[03:33] <Friar_tuck> yeah but gnome can run kde apps
[03:33] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Yeah
[03:33] <Toma-> Friar_tuck: correct. i guess gtk is the wider used one
[03:33] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. I have received that. What do I do with it?
[03:33] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Just in case you haven't stumbled across http://www.ubuntuforums.org, check it out, a wealth of information.
[03:33] <intelikey> foxgamer try that. in your  /boot/grub  on the fedora install  it should fix things for you.
[03:33] <Kyral> Friar_tuck: its more like GNOME App and KDE App don't exist
[03:33] <Friar_tuck> thanks i think thats what i was lookin
[03:33] <Kyral> Friar_tuck: you can use either on any WM
[03:33] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you so much! I'll give that a go and let you know.
[03:34] <Friar_tuck> ok
[03:34] <Toma-> Kyral: most kde apps need the kde-libs to run, aka, kopete, k3b
[03:34] <Friar_tuck> i think I'll stick with gtk
[03:34] <Kyral> Toma-: I meant the concept is wrong
[03:34] <shad0w1e> hi! I have a very new motherboard... which distro is most likely to pick up all/most of my hardware?
[03:35] <Dariuss> evilghost: great...thanks for the help!!!
[03:35] <Kyral> Toma-: No app is for KDE only, no app is for GNOME only
[03:35] <Shadyman> shad0w1e: Any?
[03:35] <Toma-> yeh
[03:35] <evilghost> Dariuss:  No problem man, glad I could help.
[03:35] <shad0w1e> Shadyman, well I've been having a lotta trouble with many of them!
[03:35] <Toma-> but most gnome/gtk apps dont require gnome libs. where as kde ones do
[03:35] <Shadyman> shad0w1e: Weird.
[03:35] <Shadyman> Toma-: And the KDE ones crash all the time, too ;)
[03:35] <shad0w1e> Shadyman, it's new stuff. Not yet built into the kernels!
[03:36] <Toma-> no they dont...
[03:36] <ilba7r> how to list operation, processes that are using my sound device
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> I dont like the gui in a lot of kde apps
[03:36] <Shadyman> Toma-: It's just me, I know :P
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> but thats my taste
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> everyone if sodderent
[03:36] <Toma-> ilba7r: "lsof | grep /dev/dsp" i think
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> sodderent = different
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> lol
[03:36] <bk> how do you compile a java source code using the GCJ?  is it just "gcj name_of_sourcecode"?
[03:36] <ilba7r> thanx Toma- i thought it was /dev/snd thanx again
[03:36] <Toma-> ahh yes im right
[03:37] <Toma-> np ilba7r :)
[03:37] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Is the option line I gave you working now?  If so, sweet :)
[03:37] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  here's one for you ... : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6571
[03:37] <Friar_tuck> Are there any gui app programmers in here?
[03:37] <B-166_ER-X> (..)
[03:37] <ilba7r> works great Toma- thanx again
[03:38] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: thats interesting.
[03:38] <B-166_ER-X> btw Preparing to replace amsn 0.95-3 is just because i did it 2 time to make the 2nd time en Eng_us
[03:38] <IdleOne> is there a command to create a launcher on the desktop via terminal ?
[03:38] <Kr0ntab> back....
[03:38] <IdleOne> welcome back
[03:38] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: have you tried moving/deleteing your ~/.amsn folder?
[03:38] <B-166_ER-X> hm, yes.
[03:39] <mheckmann> hey people :-P
[03:39] <CreatureX> idleone: i dont know about a command, but I think it would be easier to just use the make custom launcher through the gui
[03:39] <B-166_ER-X> might be the problem, this error pop up since then, althougn i had an error before, just not the same one (..)
[03:39] <Dariuss> evilghost: still loading up...
[03:39] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  how do i do that?
[03:39] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: ive been told its a permission problem. check the permissions on your .amsn folder and all the files in it
[03:39] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Cool, but you're further along than before, right?
[03:40] <mheckmann> exit
[03:40] <Dariuss> evilghost: now, it should still do a complete install, right?
[03:40] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Yes sir.
[03:40] <CreatureX> right click on a toolbar, then hit create custom launcher, drag to desktop. im not guaranteeing it will actually drag to desktop, ive honestly never tried
[03:40] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  there are a few files belonging to Root, thats all
[03:40] <IdleOne> thats the problem
[03:41] <IdleOne> I have a mac mouse
[03:41] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: nothing should be root
[03:41] <IdleOne> 1 button
[03:41] <spectrun> alguem do brasil aki
[03:41] <B-166_ER-X> chown -R username ?
[03:41] <dotchad> spectrun, eu
[03:41] <CreatureX> heh, does that pund-looking key+click bring up a context menu then?
[03:41] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: yep
[03:41] <dotchad> spectrun, #ubuntu-br
[03:41] <CreatureX> never used a mac mouse on linux...
[03:42] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  nope it doesnt
[03:42] <yaaar> hey guys, how do i find out what package provides a certain file?
[03:42] <IdleOne> i dont think I will be for long either
[03:42] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Why not get another mouse instead of using the obfuscated method?
[03:42] <Toma-> yaaar: with apt-file
[03:42] <sas171> need help with /etc/network/interfaces/
[03:42] <cubikdice> hmmmmmm fresh install of breezy :)
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  chown: too few arguments
[03:43] <IdleOne> evilghost:  because this is what i have and i am not going to wait in front of the store till morning lol
[03:43] <Toma-> oh
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> ah damn
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> wait
[03:43] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Good answer :p
[03:43] <CreatureX> idleone: there's got to be some way to get a context menu, ill try and look it up for you
[03:43] <Toma-> "chown -R oli ~/.amsn
[03:43] <Toma-> "
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> yeah :P
[03:43] <Toma-> ;P
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> just saw this
[03:43] <evilghost> CreatureX:  I tried CTRL-LeftClick as well as Alt-Enter, etc.
[03:43] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  thank you ive been all over the net cant seem to find the answer
[03:44] <evilghost> IdleOne:   I have the answer, but I'll flood the channel.
[03:44] <evilghost> Where's that pastebin stuff.
[03:44] <evilghost> !pastebin
[03:44] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:44] <IdleOne> the msg me
[03:44] <evilghost>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:44] <evilghost> oops, sorry.
[03:45] <evilghost> IdleOne:  IRCd doesn't allow it.
[03:45] <cubikdice> lol
[03:45] <IdleOne> evilghost:  where can I get the answer then?
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> wow
[03:45] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i need to help a friend who wants to setup wifi on his notebook. he's new to linux and has just installed breezy
[03:45] <Nyana> hello everyone... i'm having a bad time trying to install a macromedia flash plugin for mozilla firefox running under Ubuntu 5.04 amd64 bit... was wondering if anyone could help me out.
[03:45] <Hmmmm> anyone got a doc on how to set it up?
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> Toma- , it actually worked, i've been trying to repair this for 2 days ..
[03:45] <sas171> ok, i should setup my pppoe dsl connection throw eth1, but every time im rebooting i have pppoeconf again. here is my interfaces: http://pastebin.com/489630
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> thanx :)
[03:45] <Toma-> !wifi
[03:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:46] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: no problem :)
[03:46] <Kyral> Nyana: Flash doesn't exist for 64bit
[03:46] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: if youve got any hassles with amsn, join the channel and ask. the devel team are all very nice pplz
[03:46] <Nyana> Kyral i heard about that... but isn't there a way to force architecture on the 32bit pack or use something else?
[03:47] <Kyral> Nyana: yah 32bit chroot
[03:47] <Kyral> but I dunno how to use it
[03:47] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Here you go, look at the terminal window.  Those are the attributes/values, the location is ~/Desktop.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6574
[03:47] <Nyana> me neither
[03:47] <IdleOne> evilghost:  thank you
[03:47] <foxgamer> intelikey, Unfortunately that didn't work. :(
[03:47] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Np, looks like it resized it, if you can't read it let me know and I'll GIMP the screenshot.
[03:48] <sas171> Toma: was !wifi for me?
[03:48] <Toma-> sas171: yeh
[03:49] <Toma-> also,
[03:49] <Toma-> !wireless
[03:49] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:49] <TrendKill> hey guys how would i get a file list of a particular debian packagae?
[03:49] <_TomB> can you install ubuntu from the livecd?
[03:49] <IdleOne> ahhhhhhhhhh great now FF wont start
[03:49] <CreatureX> _tomb: no
[03:49] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Open up terminal, type "firefox [url i pasted] "
[03:49] <sas171> Toma-: but i have no wirelles, i hav dsl modem->lan->eth
[03:50] <CreatureX> _tomB: but you can dl the iso or request install cds from shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <intelikey> foxgamer glad you are back.  i'm sorry i sent you the un-polished file....  may i pelase try that again.
[03:50] <Toma-> oh, sas171 sorry, that was for Hmmmm
[03:50] <IdleOne> evilghost:  cannot execute binary file
[03:50] <foxgamer> intelikey, hehe. You certainly can. No problems.
[03:50] <robertj> where should I stick my named pipes at that will be started and stoped from init.d?
[03:50] <evilghost> IdleOne:  What's firefox alone say?
[03:50] <IdleOne> doesnt say anything
[03:51] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. I'll give that a go.
[03:51] <IdleOne> begins to start then just stops
[03:51] <evilghost> IdleOne:  You have firefox installed right?
[03:51] <intelikey> foxgamer wait
[03:51] <cubikdice> whats that apt-get command to get all the development programs....like build-something or w/e getss gcc and all the needed stuff
[03:51] <IdleOne> yes
[03:51] <evilghost> cubikdice: apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <IdleOne> but I upgraded to 1.5
[03:51] <Toma-> sas171: looks like its configing eth1 twice
[03:51] <CreatureX> cubikdice: i think its build-essential
[03:51] <cubikdice> thats it
[03:51] <IdleOne> now trying to create a launcher
[03:51] <cubikdice> thank you
[03:51] <Hmmmm> hey Toma- thanks, am taking a look at it
[03:51] <Toma-> sas171: have you tried commenting out "iface eth1 inet dhcp"?
[03:52] <Toma-> Hmmmm: cool
[03:52] <cvt|gnuyear> What kind of wireless card/chipset do i have? http://pastebin.com/489635
[03:52] <intelikey> foxgamer make sure that the /boot/grub/device.map  and the   (hd#.#)  are in agreement with the output of  'fdisk -l '   for the devices the systems are on.
[03:52] <sas171> Toma-: thx, ill try it now
[03:52] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: this says nothing about network cards
[03:52] <intelikey> foxgamer that is something you will have to check.  i can not see that from here.
[03:52] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, it was the command on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[03:53] <foxgamer> intelikey, I can't seem to use fdisk. It's on my system but keeps saying command not found.
[03:53] <evilghost> foxgamer:  "whereis fdisk"
[03:53] <intelikey> try as root
[03:53] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: thats not all that was in lspci was it??? :/
[03:53] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, yes
[03:54] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: so you have no graphics card or sound card?
[03:54] <charlie5> hi ... can anyone recommend a gui app for burning a music cd from a set of mp3 files (similar to kbear) ?
[03:54] <foxgamer> evilghost, It's in sbin
[03:54] <evilghost> foxgamer:  /sbin/fdisk
[03:54] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, with lspci -v | less
[03:54] <foxgamer> evilghost, Yes.
[03:54] <chorse> charlie5: try gnomebaker.
[03:54] <IdleOne> does anybody know what they keyboard shortcut would be?
[03:54] <evilghost> foxgamer:  No, I mean, type that.
[03:54] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: you need to post ALL the output from lspci -v
[03:54] <IdleOne> does anybody know what they keyboard shortcut would be for right click?
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Gnome or KDE?
[03:55] <charlie5> chorse, thanks ... i'll give it a try.
[03:55] <IdleOne> gnome
[03:55] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, that was all that came up with that command
[03:55] <intelikey> with the   -l
[03:55] <foxgamer> evilghost, Ah cool. That works. Thanks :)
[03:55] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: if you ran it thru less, you need to hit enter to see more
[03:55] <intelikey> all we need is the list.  not to change things
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Shift-F10?
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  And you suck for not using Google :p
[03:56] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: post everything from "lspci -v"
[03:56] <IdleOne> evilghost:  I been using google for 6 hours now
[03:56] <Hmmmm> Toma-, my friedn has a Belkin
[03:56] <Hmmmm>  F5D6020
[03:56] <Hmmmm> . the guide u gave me says it aint supported out of the box
[03:56] <Dariuss> evilghost: sorry to bother you, but it didnt work. still says its unable to install initrd-tools
[03:56] <Toma-> Hmmmm: you might need ndiswrapper
[03:56] <IdleOne> evilghost:  shift F10 didnt work
[03:56] <Toma-> !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:56] <evilghost> IdleOne:  My search terms "gnome keyboard right click"
[03:56] <foxgamer> intelikey, I have the list of all the partitions now. So I go in the device.map and make sure they match up, yes?
[03:56] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Weird, works fine here.
[03:57] <intelikey> yes
[03:57] <jaro> so, trying to netboot my notebook in order to install ubuntu, but: I've followed steps described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot adapted to my network of course, but I got to the state when client machine tries to initiate session with the tftp but unsuccesfully :-( what could be wrong?
[03:57] <IdleOne> well FF wont start up now
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  I left-click an item, hit SHIFT-F10 and I see the Right-Click menu.
[03:57] <jaro> maybe my dhcp doesn't work very well.
[03:57] <Hmmmm> is ndis complicated to setup?
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  I tried before I flamed you :p
[03:57] <IdleOne> evilghost:  thank you that worked
[03:57] <sporkbomb> Hmmmm: not at all
[03:57] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  NDIS wrapper, no.
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Np dude.
[03:58] <intelikey> foxgamer the  (hd0.0)   and  (hd0.2)  are the ones that  fc  and  ub  must be on according to the menu.lst   if they are wrong change them.
[03:58] <Hmmmm> spo0nman, evilghost the thing is my friend, who's a newb, has found ubuntu so nice so far. i would hate to burst his bubble
[03:58] <Hmmmm> iv been pushing him to try linux for 4 years now
[03:59] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  You're a good man, he's got a what, PCI, USB, or PCMCIA wifi card?
[03:59] <Dariuss> sooo....anyone know what to do when ubuntu gives you an error message during install of the base system that says it was unable to install initrd-tools?
[03:59] <Toma-> Hmmmm: get the program "ndisgtk". its a graphical setup for ndiswrapper. if it was any easier, you could fall over and setup ndiswrapper on the way down
[03:59] <foxgamer> intelikey, No. They are correct. I have the device map open, but I only have two entries. (fd0) and (hd0)
[03:59] <sporkbomb> Hmmmm: the ndiswrapper wiki will tell him all he needs to set up ndiswrapper
[03:59] <Hmmmm> evilghost, pcmcia
[03:59] <evilghost> Dariuss:  My suggestions didn't help?
[03:59] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, http://pastebin.com/489643
[03:59] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  Who makes it, PrismII chipset?
[03:59] <IdleOne> evilghost:  now when i try to left click nothing happens
[03:59] <IdleOne> lmao this is freaking amazing
[03:59] <Hmmmm> evilghost, i dunno that one
[03:59] <Dariuss> evilghost: no, still gave me the same error...dont know what to do. could it be a hardware issue?
[04:00] <intelikey> foxgamer paste the device.map from ubuntu and fc   for me and  the out put from fdsik -l   and  i'll build you a device map also
[04:00] <Hmmmm> sporkbomb, ya i think i'll give him the guides and let him try it out
[04:00] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Let me guess, you installed successfully right, ejected CD, and upon reboot you got that, right?
[04:00] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: this is your card ... Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[04:00] <foxgamer> intelikey, Okay. I'll do that. Just a tick :)
[04:00] <taomaster> Y is it so hard to install java in this o/s?
[04:00] <Dariuss> evilghost: no, during the initial install.
[04:00] <Toma-> 1javadebs
[04:00] <Toma-> err
[04:01] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Oh, hmm, try Ubuntu Forums searching on your specific machine type.
[04:01] <Toma-> ubotu: tell taomaster about javadebs
[04:01] <Dariuss> evilghost: ok, thanks for the help
[04:01] <ilba7r> is there a way to have a virtual sound mixer. Running an application that require the sond device prevents any other appl from using the dev. Is there a virtual sound mixer with ubuntu. just switching to esd or alsa does not do the trick do i need to make further configuration in them
[04:01] <taomaster> i tried it
[04:01] <Toma-> taomaster: dpkg -i java.deb is too hard?
[04:01] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  I've done a few PCMCIA cards without need to install a driver, including an AMbicom CF->PCMCIA card, a Cisco aeronet card, and a Compaq HNW-110.
[04:01] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  Never needed NDIS-wrapper
[04:02] <Hmmmm> evilghost, well that sounds good
[04:02] <taomaster> i guess i'm doin it wrong- can't get the package to open
[04:02] <Toma-> taomaster: did it download completely?
[04:02] <taomaster> yes
[04:02] <ilba7r> Toma- why not install directly from sun and make the symbolic links by hand?
[04:02] <Hmmmm> here's what he wrote to me:  have a dell inspiron 7500 with celeron processor.
[04:02] <Hmmmm>
[04:02] <Hmmmm> The pcmcia card is belkin 802.11b , Model F5D6020 Version 3000df. I haven't managed to get this running yet. I have gone thru websites but couldn't find the exact information regarding my configuration. In case you can help me it would be great.
[04:02] <Hmmmm>
[04:02] <Hmmmm> I don't see the light on the pcmcia card but in the systems side i can see the card i need to know how to activate the card ?
[04:02] <Hmmmm>
[04:02] <Hmmmm> I also need to do basic things in linux , i want to install the gtkwifi application and i had read that i can do this by doing the following command:
[04:02] <evilghost> ilba7r: dmix, check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org, ideally, if you're a desktop you want an emu10k1 chipset on a SND Blaster Live 5.1
[04:02] <Hmmmm>
[04:02] <Toma-> ilba7r: dpkg is easier
[04:02] <Hmmmm> sudo pdkg -i  gtkwifi-1.09.deb
[04:02] <Hmmmm>
[04:03] <Hmmmm> After this i don't see the package anywhere on the list of programmes, do i need to do anything after this ? In case you have any documentation on how to use ubuntu it would probably help me.
[04:03] <Hmmmm>
[04:03] <evilghost> Brb 1 sec.
[04:03] <Hmmmm> I haven't tried the rest of the things but already the usb 2.0 is working which i couldn't use earlier on windows 98.
[04:03] <Hmmmm>
[04:03] <Toma-> got flood?
[04:03] <Hmmmm> I think i have alot to learn and it is very intresting too.
[04:03] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, that exact one isn't on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[04:03] <intelikey> Hmmmm nice way to leave the channel
[04:03] <Madpilot> Hmmmm: please stop floodign the channel...
[04:03] <foxgamer> intelikey, Right, have the entries at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6575
[04:03] <ilba7r> thanx evilghost
[04:03] <Madpilot> flooding, even...
[04:03] <intelikey> k looking
[04:03] <Hmmmm> sorry guys, but its technical stuff
[04:03] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, do u know what i can do to get wireless working with mine?
[04:04] <ilba7r> evilghost unfourt i have a laptop but wil check out the link thanks
[04:04] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: id say use ndiswrapper. realtek chips and ndiswrapper work great
[04:05] <Toma-> nothing like a flood to shut everyone up
[04:05] <BxL> what's the command to see how much space is left on my partition?
[04:06] <Toma-> BxL: df
[04:06] <Toma-> or , df -M
[04:06] <BxL> thanks
[04:06] <sethk>  I like df -u
[04:06] <Toma-> err m
[04:06] <BxL> i'll man df ;)
[04:06] <Toma-> BxL: thats the spirit :D~
[04:06] <Toma-> df: invalid option -- u
[04:06] <sethk> -u does a pretty good job of guessing at what unit makes sense
[04:06] <sethk> sorry, -h
[04:07] <Toma-> :D
[04:07] <sethk> my mistake
[04:07] <Toma-> -h is pretty good
[04:07] <Doomhammer> hi guys, anyone willing to offer me some help ?
[04:07] <Toma-> !ask
[04:07] <intelikey> foxgamer try that.
[04:07] <BxL> -h is indeed pretty good
[04:08] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. Do I put this file on both the ubuntu and the fedora partition?
[04:08] <Doomhammer> getting errors when attempting to start KDE, something about dcopserver ?
[04:08] <Toma-> sif paste it to me silly bot
[04:08] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i have dapper and i'm install what came up; do i need anything else?
[04:08] <intelikey> foxgamer yes  and the menu.lst also
[04:08] <Doomhammer> "Could not read network connection list."
[04:08] <Toma-> Doomhammer: anything in ~/.xsessionerrors ?
[04:08] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thanks. I'll do that :)
[04:08] <intelikey> that should fix you up
[04:08] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: i dont know anything about dapper.
[04:09] <intelikey> if it don't i'll be sure and hide when you come back........   ;/
[04:09] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: if youre gonna use a devel release, file a bug, patch it, sort it out yourself
[04:09] <Doomhammer> Toma-: ah, yes, it appears that KDE was trying to write some stuff to my home dir.
[04:09] <Doomhammer> Toma-: no write permissions though... on my own ~/ ?
[04:09] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i don't know what that means.
[04:09] <Toma-> Doomhammer: wow... you cant access home?
[04:10] <Doomhammer> Toma-: apparently not :S
[04:10] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: dapper = fix it yourself :)
[04:10] <Toma-> Doomhammer: :(
[04:10] <Doomhammer> Toma-: ~/.ICEauthority to be exact
[04:10] <intelikey> Toma- Doomhammer save home from another install ?
[04:10] <Doomhammer> funny, was working fine until i installed kubuntu-desktop :S
[04:10] <Toma-> ahhhh ICE.
[04:10] <Toma-> rm -rf .ICEauthority
[04:10] <foxgamer> intelikey, I'm going to give it a try now :)
[04:11] <intelikey> oh is that all?    sudo rm .*auth*
[04:11] <Toma-> err no need for -rf
[04:11] <foxgamer> yoink!
[04:11] <intelikey> foxgamer ok good luck with it
[04:11] <cvt|gnuyear> Can i get wireless working?
[04:12] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: use ndiswrapper. if its been released for dapper yet
[04:12] <intelikey> no need for the -fr but it will need root
[04:12] <Doomhammer> Toma-: it appears i've got a bunch more permission problems than just that :O
[04:12] <Toma-> intelikey: i try not to let people past sudo commands :)
[04:12] <QMario> What does the X.org process do in Ubuntu>
[04:12] <Toma-> Doomhammer: oh dear.
[04:12] <QMario> s/>/?
[04:13] <QMario> Hello Toma-!!! :)
[04:13] <Toma-> Doomhammer: what does ls -l return in home? dont paste it all here
[04:13] <Toma-> QMario: hi :)
[04:14] <Doomhammer> Toma-: it's complaining about dcopserver ?
[04:14] <Toma-> you cant even ls?
[04:15] <Doomhammer> i can ls, it's just that I have no write permissions on several things, which i apparently need
[04:15] <foxgamer> intelikey, Back again. No luck. Still getting the error 13 :(
[04:15] <intelikey> eeek
[04:15] <CreatureX> doomhammer: you can always go to disk manager and open your partition there, thats root file access in the gui
[04:15] <Toma-> Doomhammer: youre trying this thru konsole?
[04:15] <CreatureX> doomhammer: not an ideal solution, but itll work
[04:16] <Doomhammer> Toma-: no, I hit CTRL+ALT+F1, i'm doing it in the console
[04:16] <intelikey> hide even
[04:16] <foxgamer> intelikey, eeek? That's one answer! lol
[04:16] <Toma-> Doomhammer: good
[04:16] <Doomhammer> CreatureX: i have no GUI, neither gnome nor kde will start up
[04:16] <Toma-> Doomhammer: can you put your .xsessionerrors on a pastebin plz?
[04:16] <Doomhammer> i can stick it on my webserver...
[04:17] <CreatureX> doomhammer: oh, that would ba a problem (sorry, i just got food, didnt see the whole problem)
[04:17] <Doomhammer> CreatureX: that's okay
[04:17] <Doomhammer> Toma-: here's my xsession errors: http://www.longpath.org/doomhammer/filemirror/xsession-errors
[04:18] <intelikey> foxgamer lets try the ubuntu grub.     mount the partition that ub is on and do a  "sudo chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:18] <cvt|gnuyear> when i try to install drivers for wireless internet ndiswrapper says "not a valid driver .inf file."  any help?
[04:18] <Doomhammer> Toma-: looks like I fixed the permissions, but now it's hanging while creating ~/.ICEauthority ?
[04:18] <intelikey> foxgamer you inturpret this <ubuntu's_mount_point/>   and type the rest
[04:18] <cvt|gnuyear> i was using the drivers for winxp and win2000 from this link  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[04:19] <BxL> how so i change the default
[04:19] <BxL> urg, sorry, nevermind that
[04:20] <intelikey> foxgamer if that doesn't work,  being fedora you may just "su - "   then run it without the 'sudo'
[04:20] <Toma-> Doomhammer: odd.
[04:20] <foxgamer> intelikey, chroot doesn't seem to exist anywhere.
[04:21] <Doomhammer> Toma-: yes, i would say so... i've installed kubuntu-desktop before without any problems :/
[04:21] <dfgas> arghh, i forgot my tftpboot directory when backing up my server  :((
[04:21] <intelikey> it will for root.   su -     then "chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:21] <Doomhammer> Toma-: aha! that's good, at least fluxbox will start up
[04:21] <moshe> hello
[04:21] <workingmansdead> hey everyone
[04:21] <workingmansdead> im having a problem with an ssh remote log in. any help? im getting a fail notice in konsole after typing /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:21] <Toma-> Doomhammer: hmm. trying to think what might be causing it..
[04:21] <moshe> what are the possible reasons why mkisofs would say it's unable to make a dvd-video image?
[04:23] <nekostar> gawd
[04:23] <foxgamer> intelikey, nope. Even in su it's saying command not found. I'm trying to see if there is an equivalent.
[04:23] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:23] <cvt|gnuyear> With wireless internet, is the connection speed reduced?
[04:24] <Doomhammer> Toma-: i found a post on the ubuntu forums, apparently it's because dcopserver isn't setup to start automatically at boot ?
[04:24] <Kr0ntab> brb
[04:24] <intelikey> moshe write permission on the device or directory it is trying to use maybe
[04:24] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: not unless you have a 11megabytes / second internet connection
[04:24] <Vicent> what file like the wine
[04:24] <Toma-> Doomhammer: iirc, dcop gets started with kde/gnome
[04:25] <Toma-> Doomhammer: anything dcop related in /tmp?
[04:25] <moshe> intelikey, it's mkisofs, so it's no the device that's a problem, and the directory has my permissions
[04:25] <apokryphos> gnome doesn't use dcop
[04:25] <cvt|gnuyear> Do i need drivers in addition to ndiswrapper to get wireless internet?
[04:25] <moshe> do I need dvdrtools installed?
[04:25] <zhangjintu> how to remove the applications that I installed in wine?
[04:25] <Doomhammer> Toma-: not a thing
[04:25] <Vicent> any file like wine,for playing games
[04:25] <moshe> I've used growisofs without incident in the past without anything additional installed
[04:25] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: yeh, the ones that came with your card
[04:25] <SEJeff> cvt|gnuyear, you might install ndisgtk from universe as it will make ndiswrapper a bit easier to set up
[04:25] <vortex> anyone know why I cannot install flash or java in firefox with the autoinstall?
[04:26] <Doomhammer> Toma-: according to this thread, starting dcopserver manually will allow kde to startup, but after that other things are still messed up
[04:26] <intelikey> moshe idk
[04:26] <moshe> idk?
[04:26] <Vicent> icq can run in ubuntu?
[04:26] <intelikey> idk=i don't know
[04:26] <zhangjintu> sure
[04:26] <apokryphos> vortex: yes, because it doesn't work. Just install the javadebs (/msg ubotu javadebs), and flashplayer-mozilla from Multiverse repository
[04:26] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:26] <zhangjintu> no
[04:26] <_jason> Vicent gaim can connect to icq
[04:26] <Toma-> Doomhammer: well im stumped :|
[04:26] <vortex> apokryphos: thank you
[04:27] <Doomhammer> Toma-: a solution that has been posted is to remove /tmp/kdecache-<USER> but that dir doesn't exist for me :P
[04:27] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:27] <Doomhammer> Toma-: maybe i'll just download the kubuntu ISO, instead of converting standard ubuntu
[04:27] <Toma-> Doomhammer: have you tried cleaning /tmp completely?
[04:27] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: what's the problem?
[04:27] <vortex> apok
[04:27] <vortex> one question
[04:28] <apokryphos> shoot
[04:28] <Toma-> Doomhammer: could work better :/
[04:28] <foxgamer> intelikey, Still no luck with the chroot.
[04:28] <intelikey> can fedora possably not have chroot ????   that sounds modified to me.
[04:28] <vortex> which one do i download from the i386
[04:28] <vortex> ?
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: KDE hangs on creating ~/.ICEauthority
[04:28] <Toma-> fedora has chroot
[04:28] <apokryphos> vortex: the j2re
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: gnome won't start at all, screen goes blank for a few seconds then returns to KDM
[04:28] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: delete it, then restart KDE.
[04:28] <rage_> Trying to get a duel moniter setup... have hit some issues though
[04:28] <vortex> thank you very much sir
[04:28] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sounds like you've been doing sudo {guiapplication}
[04:28] <intelikey> Toma- tell foxgamer that
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: tried that, no effect
[04:28] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:28] <apokryphos> which is specifically not a good idea
[04:28] <apokryphos> you muck up configuration files and dcop sockets, at times
[04:29] <Toma-> foxgamer: what are u chroot'ing for?
[04:29] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: hm, have you tried chowing your ~ recursively?
[04:29] <intelikey> install grub on ubuntu Toma-
[04:29] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: no, let me try it
[04:29] <intelikey>  "chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:29] <Toma-> i see
[04:29] <foxgamer> Toma-, I am trying to chroot to a mount point, but I keep getting command not found
[04:29] <foxgamer> ^^ hehe
[04:30] <Toma-> foxgamer: chroot not for or /bin/bash not found?
[04:30] <hacim> I'm trying to install the greasemonkey extention in firefox (1.0.7), it doesn't ever show up in my extentions
[04:30] <Toma-> *for = found
[04:30] <foxgamer> Toma-, chroot not found
[04:30] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: KDE is still not starting, but i'm getting different errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[04:30] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:31] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: pastebin, please.
[04:31] <Toma-> foxgamer: well install it. "sudo yum install chroot"
[04:31] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i have the driver cd that came with my pc; is that what i use?
[04:31] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: no idea. its your pc
[04:31] <_jason> Vicent, I don't use icq, you can try #gaim and see if they can help you with the friend list
[04:31] <Toma-> sportmankid: no spam today thx
[04:31] <Vicent> _jason:what you use
[04:31] <cvt|gnuyear> Does anyone know how to get wireless intenet working?
[04:31] <hacim> has anyone been able to install greasemonkey in ubuntu?
[04:31] <foxgamer> Toma-, Great. Errors in the mirrors and I can't find it in the Smart Package manager.
[04:32] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
[04:32] <Toma-> ahh man :/
[04:32] <Toma-> foxgamer: fc3 or 4?
[04:32] <_jason> Vicent, just the aim protocol
[04:32] <foxgamer> Toma-, fc4
[04:32] <intelikey> i'v got to go foxgamer,  if you still have trubble with it, one of these fine people can take up where i'm leaving off.
[04:32] <WebLOCH> !repo
[04:32] <ubotu> WebLOCH: Are you smoking crack?
[04:32] <WebLOCH> !repos
[04:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:32] <Vicent> how to register aim
[04:32] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: nothing else?
[04:33] <hacim> WebLOCH: for greasemonkey?
[04:33] <superchode> hey guys. trying to install php4. apt-get install php4 returns: E: couldn't find package php4 after reading package lists and building dependancy tree... any idea what's going on?
[04:33] <asterick> Hey, is there anyway to get an NTFS partition to mount any other way besides root read only?
[04:33] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: prev 2 lines are "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 10323
[04:33] <Vicent> _jason:how to register aim
[04:33] <apokryphos> superchode: you don't have universe enabled
[04:33] <apokryphos> !tell superchode about repositories
[04:33] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: those lines also have an errorno, 0 and 32 respectively
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: this is why you shouldn't sudo {guiapplication}  ;-)
[04:34] <_jason> Vicent, I'm not sure if there is a way to create a new screen name through gaim.  There is however a website available.  Let em see if I can find it.
[04:34] <Toma-> bbl.
[04:34] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: but it needed root permissions :(
[04:34] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, Toma- cvt|gnuyear: yeh, the ones that came with your card // the drivers that came with my pc would be on that card
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: are you sure that chown was recursive?
[04:34] <Vicent> _jason:ok
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: then you use kdesu
[04:34] <cvt|gnuyear> cd, rather
[04:34] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: ah, i wasn't aware of that command
[04:34] <apokryphos> ok, one sec
[04:35] <slashx1896> hey all
[04:35] <_jason> Vicent, http://www.aim.com/help_faq/starting_out/screennames.adp?aolp=#sn
[04:35] <slashx1896> i use gaim to chat with people on msn, but my frends have msn plus.. is there a way of me gettin msn plus?
[04:35] <Vicent> _jason:thx
[04:35] <WebLOCH> !easysource
[04:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <slashx1896> thats one question..
[04:36] <slashx1896> and my scroll doesnt work anymore...
[04:36] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: still getting thoe two "ICE default IO handler doing an exit()" lines
[04:36] <slashx1896> for some reason
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> after force quitting an application, my icons seem to take forever to come back.. then if I want to access the app through the menu - I can't. any suggestions ?
[04:36] <othello> ok guys im stupid an really would like to know how to install media codecs on ubuntu
[04:36] <othello> help me please
[04:37] <Shadyman> !restrictedformats
[04:37] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell othello about multimedia
[04:37] <Kyral> ubotu: tell othello about restrictedformats
[04:37] <Doomhammer> othello: i've never had to install any codecs, simply installing VLC (a media player) allows me to play every media format i've encountered
[04:37] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sudo chown -R username:username /home/username   ...right?
[04:37] <emperor> what is the restricted format
[04:37] <othello> cheers doom ill try it
[04:37] <apokryphos> emperor: /msg ubotu restrictedformats
[04:37] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: i was just doing chown ajr /home/ajr... brb
[04:38] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: I did say *recursive* about three times :P
[04:38] <emperor> please tell me
[04:38] <apokryphos> emperor: please enter that command
[04:38] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: well i just did /* and then /*/* ... etc :P
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> folks?
[04:38] <flash> hellp
[04:38] <Shadyman> CaptainMorgan: Yes?
[04:38] <apokryphos> :/
[04:38] <Sam`lappy> hello
[04:38] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: suppose that's what these handy man pages are for... :-D
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get my app's back? I really don't want to ctrl-alt-bkspc
[04:38] <flash> help me i need help
[04:38] <Sam`lappy> can some one help me please
[04:38] <Shadyman> CaptainMorgan: Where have they gone?
[04:39] <flash> sam what are you looking for
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> Shadyman,  after force quitting an application, my icons seem to take forever to come back.. then if I want to access the app through the menu - I can't. any suggestions ?
[04:39] <apokryphos> !helpme
[04:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:39] <apokryphos> past that, "help me" is just spamming.
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> Shadyman, they're still not back after force quitting... hm... about 7 minutes ago
[04:39] <flash> ubotu i am working on my new system and having problems compilling with my c compiller
[04:39] <ubotu> flash: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:40] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, are there any common repos that arent in the default list?  I can't find stuff I had showing up an hour ago now?
[04:40] <apokryphos> flash: what are the errors? Can you pastebin them?
[04:40] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: yay, kde is working now !
[04:40] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:40] <Sam`lappy> flash i have ubuntu 5.04 on my desktop but i decided to install on my laptop also. after instalation everytime i boot nothing is displayed on the screen where the login screen should be. same thing happens when i try to boot with the live cd so the installation isnt the problem
[04:40] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: :)
[04:40] <flash> well I was a programmer 20 years ago
[04:40] <flash> sam
[04:40] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: thanks for the help :)
[04:40] <flash> apokryphos thanks
[04:40] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: next step would've been to fiddle with /tmp, so we're lucky 8)
[04:41] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, thanks, i thought id done that already, must have missed something
[04:41] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: hehehe
[04:41] <Vicent> _jason:hello
[04:41] <Doomhammer> i'm going to quit and rejoin with xchat... brb
[04:41] <Vicent> _jason:you use aim in gaim
[04:41] <Sam`lappy> any ideas flash?
[04:41] <_jason> Vicent, yes
[04:42] <Vicent> _jason:is that good?
[04:42] <flash> just a minute sam
[04:42] <Sam`lappy> ok yu
[04:42] <Sam`lappy> ty*
[04:42] <_jason> Vicent, I like the gaim client.  Basically everyone I talk to uses aim, so it works for me.
[04:42] <flash> sam not sure  :(
[04:42] <machinist> What is the package that I need so that I can edit menu items, add menu items etc. in Gnome?
[04:43] <Sam`lappy> OH OK
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> folks ?
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know ?
[04:43] <Sam`lappy> oops caps
[04:44] <binarydigit> machinist: alacarte
[04:44] <flash> apokryphos  having problems with my compiller
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> freck it.. Ill just ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> which is a pain in the ass
[04:44] <Sam`lappy> does anyone here have ubuntu installed on a dell inspiron 6000?
[04:44] <apokryphos> flash: you're going to have to provide more information than that of course :)
[04:44] <flash> Not sure how to link everything together.  compiller keeps saying file not found.
[04:44] <flash> Thanks mate  typing a bit slow
[04:45] <machinist> binarydigit, I can't seem to find alacarte in the repositories. Is it located elsewhere?
[04:45] <Shadyman> sam `lappy: Close, what's up?
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> nothing displays on my monitor when i boot up
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> any ideas?
[04:45] <emperor> i have it
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> its a 15.4 inch wwidescreen
[04:45] <binarydigit> machinist: google for the .deb then
[04:46] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Is it installed already?
[04:46] <Sam`lappy> yea, same prob with the live cd too
[04:46] <Sam`lappy> so the install isnt corrupt
[04:46] <mrd`> Sound has stopped working on my girlfriend's laptop running Ubuntu 5.10.  It used to work fine, but I'm not sure why it does not now.  The drivers appear to be loaded, ogg123 runs along happily without complaining, esd has /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p mmap'd, alsamixer shows everything unmuted and at full volume.  Any ideas?
[04:46] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Weird.
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> do you know how to fix it?
[04:47] <flash> apokryphos:  do you know much about compilling c with this linux and ubuntu
[04:47] <SEJeff> binarydigit, alacarte is a dapper package. I believe the breezy menu editor is smeg
[04:47] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Not something already installed, no.
[04:47] <Doomhammer> mrd`: try killing off artsd, if it's running... sometimes that will make my sound stop working until i do that :S
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> ok
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> ty anyway
[04:47] <mrd`> Doomhammer: artsd isn't running.
[04:47] <Doomhammer> mrd`: well then nevermind :(
[04:47] <binarydigit> SEJeff: yea but smeg sucks and alacarte works fine in breezy
[04:47] <apokryphos> flash: a reasonable amount about compiling programs, but if it's about one of your own programs I perhaps wouldn't be of help. What is it you're trying to compile?
[04:47] <SEJeff> binarydigit, I didn't know that but I do agree about smeg
[04:48] <apokryphos> binarydigit: what's bad about smeg?
[04:48] <machinist> binarydigit, thanks.
[04:48] <Vicent> _jason:can you send me a message
[04:48] <binarydigit> apokryphos: ever try to chose an icon with it
[04:48] <Vicent> _jason:i want to learn
[04:48] <flash> apokryphos:  I just got the new beginning Linux programming book and am trying to compile hello world.
[04:48] <binarydigit> apokryphos: it doesnt give you ap review of any icons, and you have to blindly find the icon by the filename
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> I have this message when logging in, how do I fix it?: The X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings.  Which set would you like to use?
[04:49] <apokryphos> flash: not the best place to come for programming help. Install build-essential, and past that I'm sure the compiler won't be the problem =)
[04:49] <poser> trying to figure out what my onboard sound is for an old laptop, not much is found online, so I tried lspci but it doesn't seem to show a card
[04:49] <poser> flash: did you try gcc?
[04:49] <binarydigit> apokryphos: alacarta is basically smeg with things better
[04:49] <fli7e> anyone who knows: is there something I can add in fstab (perhaps under options) that will prevent a drive from automatically being mounted on startup?
[04:49] <superchode> k, universe is enabled now - thanks for that. installing php4 now stalls because it can't lock /var/lib/dpkg/
[04:49] <flash> apokryphos: once I get up and running I will fly like the birds   thanks for the that  I will give it a go...   :)
[04:49] <Friar_tuck> !flash
[04:49] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:50] <apokryphos> binarydigit: interesting. I just remember people in here "drooling" (and I quote) over some smeg screenies when it was coming out. Always found it odd that a friggin' *menu editor* could be thought of so highly.
[04:50] <superchode> would something else be using that?
[04:50] <binarydigit> hah , yea i believe this is a fork of smeg
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> What would be a good program for copying my laptop's hard disk (either entire or in part) to a desktop's (much larger) disk as a backup, over a crossover ethernet cable connection?
[04:50] <binarydigit> if they were drooling over that, they would get a hardon over alacarte
[04:50] <flash> Hello Friar_tuck
[04:50] <Shadyman> binarydigit: ROFL
[04:50] <mrd`> ``cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'' produces no sound either.
[04:50] <flash> Friar_tuck: hello
[04:51] <carl> hello
[04:51] <benplaut> hello everyone :)
[04:51] <aedes> tonyyarusso, rsync is a good network backup tool, but I'm not sure if its what you want
[04:51] <Vicent> _jason:how to search other guys name
[04:51] <carl> I just got linux installed for the first time, where should I go from here?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> aedes: What does it do?
[04:51] <Shadyman> Carl: Anywhere :)
[04:51] <apokryphos> hi benplaut :)
[04:51] <carl> lol
[04:51] <carl> any suggestions?
[04:51] <Friar_tuck> lol sorry
[04:51] <Doomhammer> carl: just play around with it... if you see something you don't like, figure out how to change it
[04:51] <apokryphos> carl: the wiki is a great place to start. Linux-wise, the rute manual is really great.
[04:52] <apokryphos> carl: /msg ubotu rute
[04:52] <Doomhammer> carl: that's how i learned, just messed around until
[04:52] <_jason> Vicent, just go to Buddies -> Add Buddy, and enter your friends screen name
[04:52] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: there may be slicker ways, but a sysadmin at an old workplace used to just use cp (he excluded /proc of course)
[04:52] <Doomhammer> carl: google is a great resource, linux.org is too, the ubuntu wiki, any linux forums...
[04:52] <Vicent> _jason:your name please?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> carl: ...I broke something.   (To follow up Doomhammer's phrase.)
[04:52] <Doomhammer> tonyyarusso: exactly ! :)
[04:53] <Doomhammer> hmm why is "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" ?
[04:53] <carl> thanks
[04:53] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: an application is using it for sound, perhaps.
[04:53] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:53] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: the only application that should be using it is quake3... however it is also the app giving me the error ;)
[04:53] <Friar_tuck> i was trying to find out about flash sound problems
[04:54] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: lsof /dev/dsp*
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, And that was it?  Wow.  How can I exclude something?  Do I have to do each of the other top levels separately, or "all but /proc" somehow?
[04:54] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev" ?
[04:54] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: with sudo powers
[04:54] <Doomhammer> returns nothing
[04:55] <fli7e> Can someone recommend a good icon pack? specifically i'm looking to get the firefox logo for ubuntu to resemble the way it looks under windows
[04:55] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sudo lsof /dev/snd* ?
[04:55] <Doomhammer> fli7e: there are some good icons availible at www.gentoo.org ...
[04:55] <brasko> Hi! I'm setting up mutt/fetchmail for the first time on my new ubuntu machine.
[04:55] <brasko> Anyone have any tips on setting up fetchmail?
[04:55] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: nadda
[04:55] <apokryphos> weird
[04:55] <brasko> I used to simply run 'fetchmail -d 30'
[04:55] <fli7e> Doomhammer, thanks
[04:55] <sorush20> how do I upgrade to new version of xorg  ?
[04:55] <cvogel> when compiling shared libraries with gcc, what's the difference between .so, .so.1, and .so.1.0.0, etc??
[04:55] <Vicent> _jason:can you search kadaj669
[04:56] <Doomhammer> fli7e: no problem, it's what I use :)
[04:56] <brasko> how about for setting up mutt?
[04:56] <apokryphos> sorush20: go to dapper or install from their site
[04:56] <sorush20> is there a table of packages in dapper anywhere?
[04:56] <apokryphos> sorush20: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: good question; I don't know :-)  I just thought I would throw out the suggestion.  He also had to do some trick to get the boot loader working on the new disk too.  Like I say, there are probably easier/better ways -- have you google'd it BTW?
[04:57] <sorush20> apokryphos: can I change my repsitories to dapper will that upgrade the distro?
[04:57] <fli7e> Doomhammer, how do i use them?
[04:57] <apokryphos> sorush20: it's not a good idea and isn't recommended, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
[04:57] <psusi> sorush20, you also need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, then update, then upgrade
[04:57] <apokryphos> sorush20: you can quite easily break your system
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Don't need to copy the bootloader.  The other computer has it's own copies of Ubuntu and Windows, I just want to put my stuff on it.
[04:57] <fli7e> Doomhammer, nevermind.
[04:57] <fli7e> lol
[04:57] <Friar_tuck> Sound works in flash in firefox but not on epiphany on my computer... Anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:58] <apokryphos> psusi: erm, nope; update would definitely need to come first.
[04:58] <psusi> sorush20, and yea... don't do it unless you don't mind having the system break.. i.e. you have another computer for your main desktop... or breezy on another partition
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Trying to figure out what a good keyword combo is!
[04:58] <sorush20> apokryphos: my xserver-xorg isn't choosing the highest possible refresh rate of my monitor any idea's why?
[04:58] <psusi> apokryphos, oh yea...
[04:58] <apokryphos> and no need for an upgrade if you do a dist-upgrade
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, (Kind of a large topic.)
[04:58] <sorush20> apokryphos: xorg sometime find my monitor and sometimes doesn't any ideas?
[04:59] <apokryphos> sorush20: your xorg.conf file change? Does it get the correct values when you use dpkg-reconfigure to determine the settings?
[04:59] <Sturgeon> totem is saying that "The audio device is busy. Is another application using it?" when i try to play a movie. No other application (except gnome) is using sound atm, and I didn't have this error yesterday. What could be doing this?
[04:59] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: running "artsdsp -m quake3" solved my problem
[05:00] <sorush20> could someone one take a look at my froum post here it explained there and yes apokryphos xorg reconfigure only finds a generic monitor... there is a link there of the monitor that i am using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=625586#post625586
[05:00] <machinist> What command do I run to install a .deb package? (Really idiotic question)
[05:00] <sam`lappy> hello
[05:00] <machinist> I thought it was apt-get install... or something similar?
[05:00] <bodaciousbrian> im running breezy 64bit, i need the kernel source to install my nvidia drives, which one should i download?
[05:00] <apokryphos> !deb
[05:00] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:00] <sam`lappy> im in linux now, its the display b/c i plugged in a crt monitor and it works fine
[05:00] <Kyral> machinist: sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>
[05:00] <WebLOCH> !javadebs
[05:00] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:01] <sam`lappy>  d
[05:01] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: I was just going to suggest that as you left ;)
[05:01] <sam`lappy> =P
[05:01] <machinist> Kyral, dpkg... thanks.. Darn... totally slipped my brain.
[05:01] <linlin> hi pcg :p
[05:01] <sam`lappy>  is there a way i can install resolutions because its only giving me 640x480 and its annoying as hell
[05:01] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Now you'll need to go into your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file and change some stuff around
[05:01] <sam`lappy> hey will =P
[05:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: I would think 'rsync' might be worth a try; there is also a tool called 'unison' that I've heard good things about, but haven't really tried out myself in practice
[05:01] <apokryphos> sam`lappy: /msg ubotu resolution
[05:02] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Is it a widescreen laptop?
[05:02] <bodaciousbrian> how od i check my kernel version?
[05:02] <sam`lappy> yep
[05:02] <linlin> its something like dpkg --reconfigure xorg blah blah
[05:02] <sam`lappy> 15.4
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Okay, will look into both.
[05:02] <apokryphos> bodaciousbrian: uname -r
[05:02] <anton_> "unable to lookup planet111 via gethostbyname"
[05:02] <bodaciousbrian> thank you
[05:02] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Let me pastebin part of my Xorg.conf for you.
[05:02] <anton_> ok how do i fix this??
[05:02] <apokryphos> linlin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:02] <anton_> without restarting
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, uname -r
[05:02] <linlin> yup yup
[05:02] <linlin> kinda close
[05:03] <anton_> i changed my hostname and now i cant run things as root
[05:03] <anton_> i dont want to reboot because i wont learn anything
[05:03] <bodaciousbrian> im running kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[05:04] <bodaciousbrian> which kernel source should i get to let nvidia install?
[05:04] <anton_> my hostname file is edited and i ran sudo hostname planet111 to change it for this session
[05:04] <anton_> now something is broken
[05:04] <jahshua--> hi
[05:04] <anton_> because i keep getting "unable to lookup planet111 via gethostbyname"
[05:04] <anton_> when i use the sudo command
[05:04] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me what this might mean .. i just ran chkrootkit and saw this .. /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted
[05:05] <anton_> i still need to edit the hosts file buti cant ecess it as root
[05:05] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6577
[05:05] <Gandhi> I need help
[05:05] <anton_> :D
[05:05] <anton_> :-|
[05:05] <anton_> :-(
[05:05] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Though, I don't know what your video card is, so you may have to replace that "Device 'Silicon integrated systems...'"
[05:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: you got me curious so I googled 'linux copy disk'; this link has some interesting tricks (see 'cp' and 'egrep -v' for example): http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/copy.shtml
[05:06] <Gandhi> I want install lazarus
[05:06] <sam`lappy> hey sry ive been away for a bit =X
[05:06] <sam`lappy> i want to get the resolution fixed first
[05:06] <sam`lappy> um
[05:06] <poser> what config file do I have to edit for alsa?
[05:06] <sam`lappy> its asking me for what driver i want to use
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Thanks Xenguy.
[05:06] <Shadyman> Hmm
[05:06] <sam`lappy> what driver do i want to use =)
[05:06] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: anyhow, gotta jet, have fun
[05:06] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Whichever fits your video card
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Will do; see ya.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> I have this message when logging in, how do I fix it?: The X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings.  Which set would you like to use?
[05:07] <jahshua--> anyone ?
[05:07] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me what this might mean .. i just ran chkrootkit and saw this .. /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted
[05:07] <anton_> grr guys
[05:07] <anton_> i cant ever restart my network
[05:08] <anton_> and i cant put it back the way it was
[05:08] <Gandhi> anton_,  Can you help me?
[05:08] <Xenguy> jahshua--: chkrootkit gets suspicious when it sees 'dot files' in certain places; you might want to run 'rkhunter' for a 2nd opinion
[05:08] <bodaciousbrian> since a 64bit keernel source doesnt exist, should i get nvidia-kernel-source to let nvidia install?
[05:08] <anton_> Gandhi uhh
[05:08] <sorush20> are there anyother repositories I can use instead of Seveas
[05:08] <anton_> not right now
[05:08] <Gandhi> I want install lazarus
[05:09] <jahshua--> Xenguy ok thanks
[05:09] <anton_> sudo apt-get install lazarus
[05:09] <anton_> ?
[05:09] <anton_> is it in your package list?
[05:09] <bodaciousbrian> how cna i build a kernel-source from my existing kernel?
[05:09] <Gandhi> no
[05:10] <Vicent> who use aim here
[05:10] <Antar> everyone
[05:10] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: You probably don't need to worry about that dot file
[05:10] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: I'm sure everyone has it
[05:11] <dfgas> what drive is hd1,0?
[05:11] <sam`lappy> ug i dont know which driver i need, intel card and cant seem to find one that coorisponds
[05:11] <jahshua--> Xenguy what should i put for the postfix configuration questions on the rkhunter install, i dont understadn the questions
[05:11] <poser> is alsa-lib and alsa-driver part of alsa-base? or at least already installed?
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, hdb1.
[05:11] <dfgas> wtf
[05:11] <anton_> those people on the Debian server are mean
[05:11] <anton_> dont go over there
[05:11] <bodaciousbrian> dfgas, secondary master i belive, most likely a cdrom
[05:11] <jahshua--> sporkbomb k
[05:11] <dfgas>  /boot is hdc1
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, So?
[05:12] <CaptainMorgan> well, that was a pain in the ass
[05:12] <sporkbomb> anton_: only if you ask them questions that you could have probably figured out yourself
[05:12] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I don't recall such questions actually, but I'll try installing it right now and see what it says ;-)
[05:12] <jahshua--> ok thanks alot
[05:12] <jahshua--> :)
[05:12] <dfgas> tonyyarusso: so that means i should be hd2,0 right?
[05:12] <Xenguy> anton_: not really, #debian just won't support Ubuntu there
[05:12] <dfgas> or is root meaning actual root?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, Yes.
[05:13] <B-166_ER-X>  i have amsn 0.95 on ubuntu, all is working right...but my contacts are telling me i always appear 'offline'
[05:13] <bodaciousbrian> so does anyone know how i can go about getting my kernel-source for Nvidia to install?
[05:13] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:13] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: Just so you know in the future, and if you were curios, the .mounted file is just there to decipher which kernel you are currently running, iirc
[05:14] <sorush20> I'm unable in insall packages etc. any help please?
[05:14] <jahshua--> iirc ?
[05:14] <Xenguy> jahshua--: hrm I thought there was an Ubuntu package for rkhunter, but I don't see one here
[05:14] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: if i recall correctly
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Still can't help you, but question:  Why did you need 0.95 anyway?
[05:14] <jahshua--> i did sudo apt-get install rkhunter
[05:14] <anton_> my sudo is broke you guys
[05:14] <illicit> Does anyone know of porting software besides Wine and Cedega?
[05:14] <jahshua--> it worked
[05:14] <anton_> hold me
[05:14] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, can i do that command as is? or do i need to substitute for uname -r?
[05:14] <jahshua--> sporkbomb: what do you mean iirc ?
[05:14] <Xenguy> jahshua--: K, checking again
[05:14] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: scroll up
[05:14] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  cause my 0.94 was really ***'ed up...it repaired it in a way
[05:14] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: as is - the $( ) does the substitution :)
[05:14] <sorush20> how do I fix by apt?
[05:15] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, sweet
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Ah.
[05:15] <jahshua--> sporkbomb: i did, i dont see
[05:15] <LordMelkor> im having some problems with gtkpod
[05:15] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: if I recall correctly == iirc
[05:15] <LordMelkor> and my ipod
[05:15] <jahshua--> ahhh
[05:15] <jahshua--> ok
[05:15] <jahshua--> thanks
[05:15] <LordMelkor> whenever i try to unmount
[05:15] <blueandwhiteg3> How can I get the resolution autodetect screen back up just like when I was running the installer? I accidently pressed return before I had checked all the resolutions (which my hardware supports)
[05:15] <LordMelkor> it says unmount unsuccessful
[05:16] <illicit> Does anyone know of porting software besides Wine and Cedega?
[05:16] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <dfgas> when i make changes to grub, how do i re install it?
[05:16] <sporkbomb> illicit: what in the world do you mean by "porting software"?
[05:16] <sam`lappy> gah
[05:16] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I had to enable 'multiverse'
[05:16] <bimberi> dfgas: if you've just edited menu.lst you don't have to do anything
[05:16] <jahshua--> Xen ah ok
[05:16] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, what are linux headers?
[05:16] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: I know about that. But that gives me a mountain of prompts - none of which I had to deal with at install - and the resolution autodetect doesn't work either. It just logs me out of my account.
[05:17] <LordMelkor> can anyone help me?
[05:17] <illicit> sporkbomb, programs that allow win32 apps on linux
[05:17] <dfgas> bimberi: how do i make sure that it is installed on hda mbr? cause last time when it booted i didn't have any choices
[05:17] <sorush20> I keep getting there was an error commiting changes in adept what can I do ?
[05:17] <illicit> sporkbomb, All i know of is Cedega and Wine...but sum1 said there was another can't quite remember the name.
[05:17] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: they are the C header files, and should be all that is needed for the nvidia install
[05:17] <LordMelkor> also after gtkpod loaded everything onto the ipod (a 30minprocess)
[05:17] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: sec...
[05:17] <dfgas> bimberi: it just sat at the grub prompt
[05:17] <LordMelkor> it said unmount unsuccessful
[05:17] <Xenguy> jahshua--: nope, no question(s) about postfix
[05:17] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, ahh,  im a moron that decided to learn python before c
[05:17] <LordMelkor> and now the songs wont show up on my ipod
[05:18] <sporkbomb> illicit: I doubt you can consider a specific application to be ported to a specific architecture if it is in fact running through emulation or another layer.
[05:18] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, i gave up on python long ago though =P  some day when it gets GUI i will look into it again
[05:18] <sporkbomb> illicit: but I understand what you mean now.
[05:18] <illicit> sporkbomb, :) Thanks...any idea of the name?
[05:18] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow ... "
[05:18] <bodaciousbrian> ok ill go try the nvidia install again
[05:19] <sporkbomb> illicit: there are others based off of wine, such as codeweaver's crossover office
[05:19] <sagarp> i get this error, "automake" is too old, libtoolize not found...how do i fix those?
[05:19] <jahshua--> Xenguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6578
[05:19] <illicit> sporkbomb, Ha that was it! Thanks.
[05:19] <sporkbomb> illicit: np
[05:19] <jess> is anyone here having problem with xchat on Breezy?  I can't get half the menus to show up.  Like "Join channel" and stuff.
[05:20] <bimberi> dfgas: you could reinstall grub to make sure - ubotu has some links ...
[05:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell dfgas about grub
[05:20] <bodaciousbrian> ok now the nvidia installer tries to build the new kernel module, but says it cant find nvidia.ko
[05:20] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: I just want to get that list of supported resolutions back up and this is asking like 50 questions, but I'm working through it...
[05:20] <Xenguy> jahshua--: interesting, it pulled in postfix too; lemmee check something, sec...
[05:21] <LordMelkor> um can some one please at least give me some sort of reply to my questions?
[05:21] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: k :) - the defaults are usually pretty good
[05:21] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: it logged me out again on autodetect resolutions
[05:21] <blueandwhiteg3> No errors as far as I can tell, however
[05:21] <sarek> hi all
[05:21] <poser> any idea on what I should do with this error.. ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[05:21] <jahshua--> Xenguy: ok thanks you
[05:21] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: :/
[05:22] <jahshua--> thank*
[05:22] <cge> LordMelkor: It seems rather specific - you might want to ask on a mailing list or the forums. Most likely noone knows anything about the problem.
[05:22] <cge> here, at least
[05:22] <LordMelkor> thnx
[05:22] <sarek> how can I easily reformat a tex file which has looooong lines, so that lines are wrapped at col 80 for example? maybe some function in vim?
[05:22] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: another way is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly
[05:23] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I don't understand what postfix has to do with rkhunter.  If you do 'apt-cache show rkhunter' you will not see any 'dependencies' on postfix <shrug>
[05:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: I just want the list back up I had at install. My display supports like 100+ resolution/refresh rate combinations....
[05:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: It seems stupid, but I am starting to think it might be faster to re-install the entire affair...
[05:23] <Xenguy> jahshua--: you could just choose 'no configuration' if you don't want to abort
[05:23] <jahshua--> Xenguy: maybe i should just cancel then ?
[05:23] <jahshua--> ok cool
[05:24] <DJLILYAZI> wow i got big problems
[05:24] <Xenguy> ttyl
[05:24] <DJLILYAZI> who can help me ?
[05:24] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: And before you ask, yes, I do regularly use many different resolutions and refresh rates.
[05:24] <Xenguy> !tell DJLILYAZI about ask
[05:24] <blueandwhiteg3> Is there any way to get the simple list of hardware supported resolutions which shows up at startup back up short of reinstalling Ubuntu?
[05:24] <volvoguy> hey guys, slightly off topic but i'll be using it with Ubuntu so hopefully it counts. i need a new video card and want the biggest bang for my buck for the occasional windows gaming session. considering both nvidia 6600's, should i go for more memory and low clock speed or less memory and almost double the clock speed?
[05:24] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: ha ok
[05:25] <michael> Following Error When Attempting To Update-- "W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[05:25] <michael>   403 Forbidden" -- How to fix??
[05:25] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, i decided to cheat, and i found the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 on apt, and im going to see if it will install the driver
[05:25] <DJLILYAZI> ok
[05:26] <DJLILYAZI> i am trying to use the LIVE CD and after the step that you pick your keybored
[05:26] <blueandwhiteg3> I guess that's a no? I might as well re-install.... why oh why has Ubuntu got to be so crazy? The code for GUI resolution selection has already been written and included, yet is inaccessible after install...
[05:26] <DJLILYAZI> it freezes after it tries to detect what CD ROM ihave
[05:26] <blueandwhiteg3> (I have been hopelessly spoiled by Mac OS X)
[05:26] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, are you trying to change resolutions?
[05:27] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, or add more resolution modes?
[05:27] <dabaR__> !windows
[05:27] <ubotu> from memory, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[05:27] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I am trying to add resolutions. Lots of them...
[05:27] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I simply want the long list of resolutions back up that appeared when I was installing Ubuntu.
[05:27] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, have you tried editing your xorg.conf manually? even with lots it wouldnt take long
[05:28] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, there is a command for that, give me a sec
[05:28] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I'll inevitably forget some resolutions and/or refresh rates, and I'll have to test every one, if I do it manually.
[05:28] <brasko> hi all.
[05:28] <brasko> Has anyone used cron on ubuntu?
[05:28] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, or running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:28] <brasko> with 'crontab -e?'
[05:28] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I've already tried that command
[05:28] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, which command was it?
[05:28] <brasko> I do crontab -e, add a command, but it doesn't seem to get executed.
[05:28] <michael> Following Error When Attempting To Update-- "W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb  403 Forbidden" -- How do I fix this?
[05:29] <brasko> Is there a prefered way to do this on ubuntu?
[05:29] <michael> sorry to repeat-^
[05:29] <jahshua--> Xenguy: what might this mean "Please inspect:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udevdb (directory)"
[05:29] <trappist> michael: Seveas will have to fix that
[05:29] <bodaciousbrian> i had an ATI card, and as a result i was ALWAYS getting screwed by my video, so ive played with it plenty!
[05:29] <michael> hu??
[05:29] <monkey050> Is the guy who was helping me before with my LiveCD online?
[05:29] <dabaR__> michael: it is unavail at this time, is what the message is telling you.
[05:29] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I've done dpkg-reconfigure before just like that, and I also tried another option without luck. When I get to the autodetect screen, it logs me out of my account but doesn't display any errors...
[05:30] <michael> ok, sorry then, ty
[05:30] <dabaR__> michael: the owner, Seveas, will have to fix it.
[05:30] <Xenguy> jahshua--: false alarm? (I have those dir's too :-)
[05:30] <dabaR__> michael: or make it availm, rather.
[05:30] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, what kind of card?
[05:30] <brasko> someone must use cron here, any help?
[05:30] <volvoguy> bodaciousbrian, i bought a $30 nvidia card and it blew my $150 ati card away in linux.... well, until it blew up. (hence my earlier question) :)
[05:30] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: Intel GMA 900. At this rate, I might as well slap the install disc back into the drive and re-install... I have barely touched this fresh install.
[05:31] <monkey050> I've got an issue with Kubuntu Hoary and Ubunty Hoary LiveCDs.
[05:31] <monkey050> *Ubuntu
[05:31] <Tzi> Hi! Happy new year everyone =)
[05:31] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, you need to be logged out of xwindows before you reconfigure the xserver.
[05:31] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, i have NO clue with the intel.... what you need is the command to regenerate the xorg.conf file
[05:32] <monkey050> Who wants to help me out this time?
[05:32] <Tzi> Does anyone know how to blacklist modules under Dapper?  I've added 'pcspkr' and 'ipaq' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d, but both modules are still being loaded
[05:32] <bodaciousbrian> does anyone know what command runs the xorg.conf generator thing? that prompts all the ?'s about mouse and keyboard and such?
[05:32] <DJLILYAZI> anyone what to help out a sister ?
[05:32] <volvoguy> bodaciousbrian, yeah - i just mentioned it a few minutes ago. ;)
[05:32] <monkey050> I need help with my LiveCDs.  Again.
[05:32] <bodaciousbrian> volvoguy, my pci geforce2 mx blew my ati radeon 9800 pro away
[05:33] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: the dpkg reconfigure thing does the ?s about mouse/kb/etc but when done yourself, there are even MORE questions, most of them rather esteroic
[05:33] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I wish the reconfigure thing had bothered to tell me I had to log out of X to use it... once again, I am spoiled by better OSes
[05:33] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, well if you dont suffer though that, then suffer though a reinstall.....
[05:33] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, if it was ati it would be fglrxconfig... would take you2  minutes, but dont by any means get an ati card!
[05:34] <sagarp> i'm trying to install the cvs version of cairo, but it says i have no font backends, even though i installed libfreetype
[05:34] <jahshua--> Xenguy: thanks for your help
[05:34] <monkey050> Monkey wants help.
[05:34] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, if it's just more resolutions you want to add, just use gedit (with sudo) to add them to the xorg.conf file.
[05:34] <brasko> hahaha, please help :)
[05:34] <brasko> Has someone used cron before on ubuntu?
[05:35] <brasko> I normally edit with 'crontab -e', however that doesn't seem to work on ubuntu
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: Really? It works for me!
[05:35] <monkey050> I'm having lockup problems once the Ubuntu and Kubuntu logons are suppossed to show up.
[05:35] <Tzi> What's it say?
[05:35] <brasko> the 'crontab -e' successfully finished, but the command didn't run
[05:35] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, i messed up the resoultions on this install also, but i only needed one added, and i did it manually
[05:35] <fmasi> how do i know what program is using a specific picture
[05:35] <bodaciousbrian> ill brb
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: You may have the editor set incorrectly
[05:35] <brasko> 1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /home/bob/touch.txt
[05:35] <monkey050> Someone please PM me about this
[05:35] <brasko> That's the command I ran.
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor
[05:35] <Tzi> Ahh okay
[05:35] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I am going though it in the terminal only option of ubuntu. We'll see in a moment. The Intel GMA 900 works incredibly well with OS X Intel and it so happens the source code for it was contributed to XFree86 by Intel Corp - not even NVidia has gone that far
[05:36] <Tzi> brasko: So you got to the editor, then?
[05:36] <brasko> I set my EDITOR=vim
[05:36] <monkey050> Again, I'm having complete system lockup when the logon is suppossed to show up on the LiveCDs for Kubuntu and Ubunto Hoary distro.
[05:36] <brasko> I don't know if that's OK or not.
[05:36] <volvoguy> anyone know of an irc channel dealing specifically with video cards (or nvidia cards more specifically)?
[05:36] <monkey050> Someone please PM me about my problem.
[05:36] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: #nvidia.
[05:36] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: amazingly
[05:36] <brasko> Tzi: Did the cron command actually run for you?
[05:36] <Tzi> HrdwrBoB: :P
[05:36] <volvoguy> HrdwrBoB, ha! who woulda known? :)
[05:36] <Tzi> brasko: Yep, sure does
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> i have a problem with the LIVE CD can anyone help me please !!!!!!!
[05:36] <sorush20> I can't install fake root what do I do?
[05:37] <brasko> wow
[05:37] <brasko> Does it have the same format mine has?
[05:37] <monkey050> DJLILYAZI, I'm also having problems but I'm still awaiting response.
[05:37] <brasko> or is it slightly different?
[05:37] <DJLILYAZI> it like freezes half way
[05:37] <DJLILYAZI> what is yours ?
[05:37] <machinist> On ATI cards, are the ATI drivers best... or is FGLRX still better for now?
[05:37] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian or anybody else: while I am going through this dpkg-reconfigure of xorg, can anybody contribute any notes on the modules that should be loaded by default of how the VRAM works? It's dynamic, in theory, but does Linux require a fixed amount be assigned? Can it be left blank and auto-assigned by the OS, or should I specify a value, say 128 MB?
[05:37] <Tzi> brasko: Same format
[05:37] <hikenboot> printing in Ubuntu is broken as default install...had to alter pemissions in cupsd.conf in order to run linux-config..now it works giving root control
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: ouch, maybe you setup cron somehow?
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: outside of the default settings?
[05:38] <monkey050> CAN I GET SOME HELP PLEASE???
[05:38] <hikenboot> is this a known issue?
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> gah
[05:38] <Tzi> brasko: Are you sure it isn't working?  That line will run on the first minute of every hour - that's what you are expecting?
[05:38] <bodaciousbrian> ok guys, im in my xorg.conf and i se im running driver "nv" how do i check to see if "nvidia" exists?
[05:38] <Tzi> brasko: Nope
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> i totally screwed my installation over....
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: :)
[05:38] <medom> i need a channel about XBOX. exist
[05:38] <hikenboot> using xfce by the way so not sure what that might have to do with it
[05:38] <hikenboot> I have noticed a lot of pam errors on this system
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: No, I wanted to run every minute. Geez, I can be stupid!
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> what u need to know about xbox?
[05:38] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian or anybody else: what are all the x.org modules? dbe, record, v41 are not checked by default, what do they do?
[05:39] <Tzi> brasko: I had a feeling that might've been what you were expecting =)
[05:39] <medom> erase a partiton
[05:39] <Tzi> That would be *
[05:39] <brasko> Tzi: Thanks!
[05:39] <dfgas> hmmm, server install has no gui ehh
[05:39] <brasko> I really appreciate it!
[05:39] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, not a clue
[05:39] <Sam`lappy> if you wanna ever play a game then you will not erase a partition =)
[05:39] <Tzi> brasko: Sure ;)
[05:39] <hikenboot> found this article http://www.cetico.org/blog/2004/12/solution-for-web-admin-interface-for.html
[05:39] <ColonelPanique> dfgas : true servers don't usually have a gui
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> ssh is my gui! :P
[05:39] <coNP> ColonelPanique, not even X servers? :)
[05:40] <dfgas> ColonelPanique: gonna have xdmcp logins
[05:40] <monkey050> I.  Want.  Help.  Now.  Please.  Thanks!
[05:40] <brasko> Tzi: The file is there now. So cron isn't broken after all, I am. Thanks!
[05:40] <ColonelPanique> dfgas : pssst... configuring that doesn't require a gui install. ;-)
[05:40] <dfgas> ahh
[05:40] <Tzi> Dr_Willis: :P
[05:40] <monkey050> There's over a hundred people here.  Why can't anyone help???
[05:40] <Xenguy> jahshua--: yw
[05:41] <ColonelPanique> coNP : an X server doesn't have to run X clients locally...
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  well.. i just got here.. so i dont know what the question even was.
[05:41] <monkey050> *sigh*
[05:41] <Tzi> monkey050: a) I missed your question, as I arrived later, b) people tend to ignore you if you get too angsty =)
[05:41] <monkey050> I was patient at the beginning...
[05:41] <monkey050> Anyways.
[05:41] <coNP> ColonelPanique, sure, but an X server usually provides a GUI
[05:41] <blueandwhiteg3> mooney050: I'm sorry, but I don't even know what your problem is. All I hear is, "I need help" over and over...
[05:41] <Tzi> That's what you get for nuttin'
[05:42] <monkey050> I tried Kubuntu and Ubuntu Hoary LiveCDs.
[05:42] <tronix> monkey050: please remember that nobody is obligated to give you anything. just be happy if you get what you seek, but don't be grumpy if you don't get it.
[05:42] <monkey050> They get through the setup.
[05:42] <sorush20> where are the repositories for the java ?
[05:42] <coNP> monkey050, what's your problem?
[05:42] <monkey050> Then when it's suppossed to go to logon, the whole system stops.
[05:42] <monkey050> Cd drive won't open, capslock or numlock won't go on, nothing.
[05:42] <monkey050> no GUI loads.
[05:42] <Tzi> Try with some different boot options
[05:42] <bimberi> ubotu tell sorush20 about java
[05:42] <monkey050> I did.
[05:42] <Tzi> I assume you've tried google
[05:43] <coNP> monkey050, what about breezy?
[05:43] <Tzi> Search for 'ubuntu live' and your hardware
[05:43] <monkey050> I had to bypass the PCMCIA autodetect coz that caused it to stop there.
[05:43] <sorush20> bimberi: I can't find fakeroot in repositories
[05:43] <monkey050> It's just that the whole computer stops.
[05:43] <bimberi> sorush20: huh - it's in main!
[05:43] <monkey050> Right when it's suppossed to load up the GUI.
[05:44] <sorush20> bimberi: I get fakchroot
[05:44] <monkey050> I tried Kubuntu AND Ubuntu Hoary LiveCDs and both do the same.
[05:44] <xptest> monkey050: try increasing your page file size in windows, anyone else think this might help?
[05:44] <monkey050> What's windows have to do with it??
[05:44] <DJLILYAZI> yeah ...
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  and whats your system specs?
[05:44] <Tzi> haha =)
[05:44] <bodaciousbrian> err...... how do i check to see what video drivers are installed?
[05:44] <bimberi> sorush20: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:44] <DJLILYAZI> my probelm is worest then monkey050
[05:44] <monkey050> Ugh.
[05:44] <monkey050> It's a brand new Sony FS series laptop
[05:45] <DJLILYAZI> NICE !!!!!!!!!!
[05:45] <B-166_ER-X>  i have amsn 0.95 on ubuntu, all is working right...but my contacts are telling me i always appear 'offline'
[05:45] <xptest> the live cd stores info to temp file or page file on your windows  system
[05:45] <blueandwhiteg3> crap, i went through the entire process and I am not getting any new resolution showing up in gnome, despite having set them all up in the config... restarting now
[05:45] <monkey050> 1GB ram, 1.86 GHz processor, Win XP Home SP2, Nvidia GeForce Go 6400
[05:45] <monkey050> Anything else you need to know?
[05:45] <monkey050> Also Intel Pro Wireless B/G internal WAN
[05:46] <DJLILYAZI> i need help with LIVE CD please
[05:46] <blueandwhiteg3> Man, Ubuntu takes forever to startup...
[05:46] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6580
[05:46] <steven_> can somone help me with my ipod nano i have tried everything imaginable and i cannot copy music to it?
[05:46] <monkey050> I just got this computer on the 27th.  There should be enough space.
[05:46] <ColonelPanique> on a blue and white g3 mac os x take two or three forevers to start up
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  the live cd does not use the hard drive at all.
[05:47] <monkey050> The thing is the whole computer just STOPS!  CD drive wont open or anything, and the harddrive stops too.
[05:47] <michael> how do I change default editor, from gedit to kate?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  its a Centrino Processor?
[05:47] <monkey050> Well, it causes the harddrive to stop spinning as well as the CD tray not to open
[05:47] <cafuego> ColonelPanique: Not if you run OSX 10.2 or earlier or give it a GB of ram.
[05:47] <monkey050> yes
[05:47] <monkey050> It's got Centrino.
[05:47] <bimberi> sorush20: uncomment line 5
[05:47] <monkey050> But it's a Pentium M 780 or so.
[05:47] <steven_> can somone help me with my ipod nano i have tried everything imaginable and i cannot copy music to it?
[05:47] <monkey050> The Specsheet is right on Sonystyle's site.
[05:47] <blueandwhiteg3> colonelpanique: I am comparing Ubuntu to OS X on the *exact same hardware*
[05:48] <monkey050> Anybody want to take this to PM as everything is going too fast in here?
[05:48] <ColonelPanique> cafuego : oh, gee, why stop there.   why not add solid state storage and an open firmware tweaked by the Woz himself ;-)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  the live cd's have a dozen+ boot options that can work around problems. I find the Ubuntu live cd's to be not as 'good' as say Knoppix in some ways
[05:48] <monkey050> Well, I tried a boot option.
[05:48] <monkey050> The only one i really need is to bypass the PCMCIA detection as it froze there before too
[05:48] <bodaciousbrian> how do i check to see if the "nvidia" driver is installed?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  may want to check the Ubuntu wiki and forums and try the 'noapci' and 'noapic' options also.
[05:48] <monkey050> Everything else other than that is fine until it has to load up
[05:49] <DJLILYAZI> live cd help anyone ?
[05:49] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, the kernel driver or the x.org driver?
[05:49] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: Sounds great! I think Apple is actually working on solid state storage for the OS.... I'm actually serious, though.
[05:49] <Friar_tuck> brian it should be in applications->system tools
[05:49] <bodaciousbrian> coNP the one that i point to in xorg.conf
[05:49] <monkey050> I did post on the forum, i'm also trying to get help on Weebls-Stuff.
[05:49] <blueandwhiteg3> Hah! A reboot was what was needed! Why oh why can't small notes like this be added? Like "Log out to autodetect resolutions otherwise it will fail without giving you any useful errors" and "Now that you've finished reconfiguring X.org, please reboot"
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  'search' the forums for similer make/models..  theres a laptop discussion formum
[05:49] <Friar_tuck> and when you start ubuntu the nvidia logo will appear
[05:50] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: On the exact same Intel hardware, OS X boots in about 1/3-1/4 the time of Ubuntu.
[05:50] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: You don't need tor eboot after reconfigureing Xorg.
[05:50] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: It didn't work out that way. I logged out, and logged back in, but the new resolutions could not be found until reboot.
[05:50] <DJLILYAZI> i need help with LIVe cd it will not install all the way
[05:50] <monkey050> Willis, i've already posted about my problem on the forum.
[05:50] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: You forgot to restart X, which is a different issue.
[05:51] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Loggoing out doesn't restart X.
[05:51] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : not to sound like the drive through in dude where's my car, but ...and tehnnnn?
[05:51] <blueandwhiteg3> Despite leaving X to perform the function, that doesn't actually restart it?
[05:51] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, im trying to get nvidia working, the driver on there website wont work becasue it needs nvidia.ko??? and the one i found on apt looks like the right proprietary driver, might be old but it doesnt matter much, i just need to see where it installed to and how to access it, because setting my driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf isnt cutting it
[05:52] <DJLILYAZI> anyone help ?
[05:52] <DJLILYAZI> live cd problems
[05:52] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, have you installed nvidia-glx
[05:53] <vegalabs> blueandwhiteg3, no, you don't actually *leave* xorg. you must restart it with say ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:53] <gerald-volt> how come when I use gedit or leafpad to view a file, it says it cannot detect the character coding
[05:53] <gerald-volt> but I'm able to do a cat filename
[05:53] <monkey050> So.... WHY does it lock up when it's suppossed to load the GUI???
[05:53] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, nope ill try that now
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  and your system specs are? and the problem is?
[05:53] <blueandwhiteg3> vegalabs: Hmm, I'll keep that in mind. I still think a prompt explaining that would have been helpful...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  my guess.. apci, and or apic issues.. hence the suggestion to try 'noapic' and 'noapic'
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> ok first the problem is
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> ok so i go thought the setup of LIVE cd
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> then after i select my keybored
[05:54] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, no i ddint have that installed, does that mean the driver i got from nvidias site should work now?
[05:54] <monkey050> but how do I use those options in addition to bypas PCMCIA???
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> it tries to detect my CD ROM and then it freezes...
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  tack the 3 of them together..
[05:54] <monkey050> but... how?
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> prosessor - p4 ht 2.8
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> dvd/ cd writer - lg 4082B
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> video - graphics card ati 9600
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> mouther bored msi 865PE Neo2
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> ram 2 gb
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> hard drive 250gb
[05:55] <monkey050> I'm a complete n00b at this, by the way.
[05:55] <ColonelPanique> monkey050 : with. your. keyboard.
[05:55] <monkey050> Yeah, that was helpful.
[05:55] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, it is very difficult question
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> at the boot prompt  - tack them all to the end of the line.. this is sort of why i suggested checking the forums/wiki it whoud detail it better then i can tell you.
[05:55] <erica> hello i need some help please
[05:55] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, =P ill try it ans see if it will configure a kernel now
[05:55] <erica> i am very new to this os and do not know how to install programs
[05:55] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I installed the driver from nvidia.com and it worked for me
[05:55] <monkey050> but HOW do I put them together?  Separate them with a comma?  I have NO idea what to do and if i do something wrong it's on you.
[05:56] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, but I think I have installed nvidia-glx before
[05:56] <ColonelPanique> erica : System > Adminsitration > Synaptic Package Manager
[05:56] <erica> ok thanks
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  no comma. :P just put them all 3 together
[05:56] <monkey050> But you don't understand.  I don't know what you mean by "put them together".  HOW?
[05:56] <monkey050> It can't be as easy as you make it.
[05:56] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis , u think its what ?
[05:57] <erica> and then what...i downloaded a program to watch avi files so what do i do to install that
[05:57] <monkey050> If you're so great with this, can't you tell me how to add the commands together with the bypass PCMCIA one?
[05:57] <erica> i apologize for the ignorance
[05:58] <ColonelPanique> erica : in Synaptic, you "Mark for installation" then "Apply" after the software is installed, it 9ideally) shows up on your "Applications" menu. ;-)
[05:58] <bennysianipar> hello
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  at the initial boot item . you entered somthning like 'ubuntu nopcmcia' dident you?
[05:58] <monkey050> No.
[05:58] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, the proprietart driver still says that nvidia.ko is missing and it fails
[05:59] <monkey050> It was something-something/something_PCMCIA=False
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> well tack on 'noapci and nopic' after that =False line...
[05:59] <monkey050> With a space between each?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> of course.
[05:59] <monkey050> now are those spelled correctly?  Because that's what I'm going to try.
[05:59] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, do you have any idea what it can be ?
[06:00] <agent2> i just got done installing ubuntu and when i log into the machine i cannot run most programs (date and time, firefox..and others) unless i'm root. if im a regular user they just plain old dont open (no terminal output either). i installed on another machine the other day and this didnt happen
[06:00] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, doesn't it compile a kernel module?
[06:00] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[06:00] <agent2> by login, i mean into gnome
[06:00] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6581 I still can't download the damn java package and no I don't want to do it manually since there is a package already
[06:00] <DJLILYAZI> anyone can help me out with my LIVE CD..it will not install it stoped half way
[06:00] <ColonelPanique> agent2 : negative beans compadre!
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  when in doubt - try the 'noapic' and 'noapci' options with any live cd.
[06:00] <ColonelPanique> !tell agent2 about root
[06:00] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, thats where it fails, it warns me that my gcc is newer than the one my kernel was compiled with, then it starts to build the module, it gets to 100% and says it cant find nvidia.ko
[06:01] <pro> hey all... can someone help me?
[06:01] <monkey050> Dr-Willis, you sure you have those spelled correctly?
[06:01] <bodaciousbrian> where is ubuntus rc.d or init.d?
[06:01] <sorush20> pro: what's the problem
[06:01] <agent2> ColonelPanique, oh i know all about that. i activated root because i like it like that. but thats beside the issue. if im a regular user and type 'firefox' Nothing will happen. if i'm root, it loads right up.
[06:01] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I C, doesn't it write out as error?
[06:01] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, in /etc/
[06:01] <ColonelPanique> monkey050 : clue: it won't hurt to just hurry up and *try it* ;-)
[06:01] <erica> i am so lost i can not find the "mark for installation" and i dont know what files to mark for installation....lol
[06:01] <crimsun> bodaciousbrian: /etc/init.d/ , /etc/rcX.d/
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> lists about every option there is for the stuff.
[06:02] <vegalabs> for christ's sake, try it!
[06:02] <pro> sorush20, i just upgrade to breezy and i got this problem while loading gnome with my keyboard "Error activating XKB configuration"
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> acpi=off     could be used also.
[06:02] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, thanks, i forgot =) im used to slack now....    the only error it give me is the nvidia.ko, but its a big long paragraph
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> of course the initial kernel/item for Ubuntu is 'ubuntu' i think.. not 'knoppix'
[06:03] <Madpilot> !tell erica about synaptic
[06:03] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, and what does that do ?
[06:03] <erica> i do apologize i am retarded about this stuff
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  disables the apic, and or apci features of the system.  which can cause issues with siomne systems
[06:03] <ColonelPanique> erica : in synaptic: there are three panes.  the one on the left contains categories of applications, the one at tope right contains the applications.  if you see an applciation which interests you, right click it in the pane in the right and choose "mark for installation' then click the "apply" button (with the little check mark icon) to actually install it
[06:03] <monkey050> These better work.
[06:04] <vegalabs> wow
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i found Nvidia-glx in init.d,   should i put that in driver in xorg.conf?
[06:04] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, surely not
[06:04] <erica> ok so the program i downloaded should be in there also?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> and if they dont? :P
[06:04] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, how is this done?
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok...
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  how is what done?
[06:04] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, you should see if there is a kernel module named 'nvidia.ko'
[06:04] <ColonelPanique> erica: you shouldn't have to download a program to install it per se.  just use synaptic...it's easier, and safer that way. ;-0
[06:04] <coNP> (bodaciousbrian, in /lib/modules :))
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> how do i search for it?
[06:04] <Madpilot> erica: what are you trying to install?
[06:05] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, the 'noapic and 'noapci'
[06:05] <ColonelPanique> erica : use the search function to look for specific software too...like do a search for dvd, for example.
[06:05] <Malachi> How can you get themes for Ubuntu?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  at the initial boot loader prompt you type in the options as
[06:05] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it just litls my kernels 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic  2.6.12-10-amd64-k8  2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[06:05] <Madpilot> !tell Malachi about themes
[06:05] <Malachi> Besides the ones that come with it?
[06:06] <ColonelPanique> Malachi : cheque ou gnome-look.org
[06:06] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I would say type "find /lib/modules/ -name nvidia.ko
[06:06] <coNP> " in the terminal window
[06:06] <erica> i am trying to install avi-xmms i think
[06:06] <Malachi> Thanks.
[06:06] <Malachi> Do they have to be specifically for Ubuntu?
[06:06] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, nothing...
[06:06] <erica> i want  to be able to watch avi files on this machine
[06:07] <ColonelPanique> Madpilot : tell erica how to install it. may the schwartz be with you... ;-)
[06:07] <Madpilot> Malachi: no
[06:07] <Malachi> Okay.
[06:07] <erica> thanks anyway
[06:07] <bodaciousbrian> schwartz, haha havent heard that in a while
[06:07] <Madpilot> Malachi: look for Metacity or GTK2 themes
[06:07] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i type them as is ?
[06:07] <Malachi> Okay,
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  at the initial boot theres SOME 'thing' like ubuntu  that you enter.. then the other options
[06:08] <Madpilot> erica: have a look here for mp3, avi and all that sort of stuff: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   knoppix works in the identical manor - example lines are at --> ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
[06:08] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, ok yeah now i know what you are saying 100%...
[06:08] <pro> sorush20, so i hate to get that message always i start gnome and i can type the "n" with the "hatty" (im mexican and i need that letter :P)
[06:08] <erica> ok thankyou
[06:08] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you ...your so helpfull
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  trivially easy eh?
[06:08] <ColonelPanique> can't peeps just use that easyubuntu thang to get kicking with the commonplace shizzle?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  hard to 'explain' since i dont have a live cd here and dont know what the initial 'thing' is :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> it may be 'ubuntu' or may be 'knoppix' for all i know.
[06:09] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, when you try to run the installer from nvidia, does it successfully compile the kernel driver?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  and i bet its all detailed in the Ubuntu live CD forum however. :P
[06:10] <DarkSenay> say, im having some problems configuring vncserver in ubuntu
[06:10] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, no, i dont think so
[06:10] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, no not really i have been having a hard time finding one answear
[06:10] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, it should compile one
[06:10] <DarkSenay> when i connect with tightvnc, i get a weird lookin background with an x as a cursor
[06:11] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it does get to 100% before it throws the error
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : you don't say! ;-)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  yea. looking at the forum now.. it is one of the smaller ones . Guess everyone that needs a live cd - uses Knoppix. :P
[06:11] <DarkSenay> lol, yeah, im guessing this is an esy fix
[06:11] <DarkSenay> im just a nub
[06:11] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, lol i use that too
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : that's coz ya gotta edit yer ~/.vnc/xstartup file and slap ye some WM or DE startup action in dere!
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the Ubuntu live cd is just not as 'cutting' edge as knoppix..  not sure how much work is going on with it.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  On my own machines I use DSL, or Knoppix, or Wolvix.
[06:12] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : are you starting up the vnc server by typing "vncserver" or some crazy jive like that?
[06:12] <merly> is it possible to make a PXE - floppy for free? using windows?
[06:12] <DarkSenay> yeah
[06:13] <DarkSenay> vncserver -randombitshere
[06:13] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, but what error? only that nvidia.ko cannot be found?
[06:13] <merly> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a comp with a cd drive that's not working
[06:13] <saotome_> anyone here can help me with a problem with generics in java 1.5?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771     - seems to be a decent set of failsafe options.
[06:13] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i have "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" installed thats the only kernel source i know that i have, i also have build-essential and the nvidia .run file i downloaded
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : werd! then yeah, edit ~/.vnc/xstartup  and slap a little : gnome-session in that bad daddy
[06:13] <crimsun> saotome_: ##java is probably better
[06:13] <DarkSenay> ahhh, someone told me that b4
[06:13] <DarkSenay> but i put it in .xsession
[06:13] <monkey050> It didn't work!
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : then you'll get some Gnomeage when ye connect from the remote box
[06:13] <saotome_> cirmsun: yeah, i know, i just thoug i'd give it a try
[06:14] <DarkSenay> i need the gnome
[06:14] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ill clsoe x and run it again see what it says
[06:14] <saotome_> crimsun:  ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel
[06:14] <saotome_> crimsun: ??
[06:14] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : silly mon! it no go in dere! it go in ~/.vnc/xstartup ya gots ta trust me mon!
[06:14] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so i should try that
[06:14] <DarkSenay> no problem mon!
[06:14] <crimsun> !tell saotome_ about register
[06:14] <monkey050> Dr_willis, it didn't work.  ColonolPanique, get back to me when you think of something helpful, alright?
[06:15] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : cheque it mon... be tryin it out.  you come back, say "aww yeah it work so fine!" ;-)
[06:15] <Deep6> can anyone give me a link to get java working in firefox..... I've installed it but I don't have the libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  may want to try the   'noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771'  options - that seems to be reccomended on the live cd forums..
[06:15] <Amaranth> !java
[06:15] <spect3r> clear
[06:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I had to use Nolapic on my own laptop.
[06:16] <spect3r> !azureus
[06:16] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:16] <Deep6> !javadebs
[06:16] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[06:16] <jaro> oh, I've went through the first stage installation on my laptop but Ubuntu freezes when it tries to start hotplug? Can I tell kernel somehow not to start it?
[06:16] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so i type that whole line nolapic acpi=off vga=771  ?
[06:16] <monkey050> But I still need to skip the PCMCIA thing.
[06:16] <monkey050> I put that first then tack them on the end?
[06:16] <ColonelPanique> libjavaplugin_oji.so - evrh time i be seeing dat liberry, it make me think of the oujia board!
[06:16] <cyphase> can i copy /etc/apache2 from a haory install to a breezy install and have it work?
[06:16] <cyphase> hoary*
[06:16] <cyphase> and should i at all?
[06:17] <ColonelPanique> cyphase : all signs point to...maybe!
[06:17] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok, first it says it cant find a pre compiled kernel, and asks to find one on the internet, it cant find one, and asks me if i want to make one, then it says i have a different gcc thatn my kernel used, and then it compiles the kernel sorce, it gets to 100% and says the nvidia.ko cannot be found in the sorce
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  there is that 'first' thing you have to type. ie: knoppix, or ubuntu, or whatever it is thats the name of the kernel image to boot.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  then tack those options to the end.
[06:17] <SenayB0x0r> my bad, where is the /.vnc folder normally located after an apt-get install
[06:18] <gerald-volt> anyone know why when I open up a certain file with gedit, it says the characters are not encoded, but i"m able to "cat filename" in terminal
[06:18] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : it be in yer home mon! aka "~"
[06:18] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, are you sure you select "yes" ehen it asks if you want to try with the different gcc?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> SenayB0x0r,  its made when you first run vncserver
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> ya
[06:18] <monkey050> WILLIS:  i thought it was nolapci
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> I need some guidance on understanding how to use partitioning tools.  I understood the partitioning step in the install just fine.  However, I don't understand sectors, cylinders, etc.  I would like to resize a partition, and do it in terms of megabytes.  Can I do that, and how?
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> and if it not be there
[06:18] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, of course, my version is 4.0, it says the kernel version was 3.4, mine is newer
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> create it
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  theres several dozen options that may or may not be needed
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i will give it a try now
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : then ye gota to be runnin' the vncserver command boiiii!
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i will be back if it does not work ok ?
[06:19] <SenayB0x0r> i did mon
[06:19] <monkey050> Well, I'm going to try it again with those and if it doesn't work I'm goin to complain a bit more.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   find out what that first word ya got to use is. :P i aint about to download a live cd image
[06:19] <monkey050> BYES!
[06:19] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, you might try to install gcc-3.4 and try to compile with it
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : be doin' an "ls -a" you be seeing .vnc ?!
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you for all your help...i love you for it
[06:20] <SenayB0x0r> wow, nub mistake, cd /.vnc wasnt the command i wanted
[06:20] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, downlaoding
[06:20] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : naw naw!! you wan cd ~/.vnc mon
[06:21] <SenayB0x0r> and then i ya, then i create a .xsession file with
[06:21] <nekostar> yeah
[06:21] <nekostar> im fuxxoredgreatly
[06:21] <nekostar> all this h264 media and nothing to play it in
[06:21] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ill go try again, modprobe nvidia says /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory, i dont know if that tells you anything or not.... brb
[06:22] <blueandwhiteg3> Is there any way to get better anti-aliasing under Ubuntu/Gnome? The anti-aliasing works, but it's not aggressive enough. It's like 2x oversampling, I would really like more...
[06:22] <cafuego> nekostar: plays fine on my ipod
[06:22] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : cheque it boiii! Iffn ya run the command "vncserver" it be making the directory ~/.vnc and in that directory be some files.  one file be "xstartup" that is the file ye be editin' to put in the line "gnome-session" sight!
[06:22] <SenayB0x0r> lets try dis again
[06:23] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok apparently im still using gcc 4, how do i switch it to use 3.4?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  how can you even tell? :P
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  I sure cant tell.  You refering to the fonts? or games?
[06:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Dr_Willis: I'm talking about fonts. Yes, I am picky. But the characters are just not as strongly formed as they could be...
[06:23] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, are you my wife?
[06:23] <blueandwhiteg3> That's the best way to describe lower levels of anti-aliasing
[06:24] <pro> sorush20, lol, thanks for nothing
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: Is your wife a graphic artist? :P
[06:24] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, no but shes knitpicky
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> (I'm  not a graphics artist per se, but I do so much with graphics I notice these things)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  gnome/X has a few options for the font settings. then itheres a few if you got a LCD monitor also.
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> I don't need or want subpixel as I don't have an LCD on that machine. My LCD is on my PPC OS X machine.
[06:25] <ColonelPanique> II got the 32 cinema...recognie boiii!
[06:25] <SenayB0x0r> ColonelPanique, what if dere is no xstartup file just create one den riiight?
[06:25] <SenayB0x0r> and den restart vncserver
[06:25] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : you can make one, and put gnome-session in it, indeed! (boiii)
[06:26] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: There's a limit to how much Linux can process raltively low-quality fonts.
[06:26] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: There's no 32" cinema display :)
[06:26] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : yes, you have to do vncserver again after creating / editing the xstartup file
[06:26] <nekostar> cafuego, we are not talking about an ipod
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> ColonelPanique,  each time you run vncserver it will launch a NEW vnc session
[06:26] <nekostar> we are talking about a few dozen gigs of vid files
[06:26] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: Then I think I need to rip some fonts off my OS X machine, as it has no problems making any non-bitmap fonts look screamingly good.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ColonelPanique,  use 'vncserver --kill :1' or :2 or :3 or whatever to close out any running ones
[06:27] <cafuego> nekostar: I thought we were talking about playing h.264 media?
[06:27] <nekostar> yes
[06:27] <nekostar> on my linux box
[06:27] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : not for the general public anyway. ;-)
[06:27] <nekostar> in say xine
[06:27] <cafuego> nekostar: Doesn't mplayer do that?
[06:27] <nekostar> not so well..
[06:27] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[06:27] <nekostar> and mplayer um
[06:27] <nekostar> lets say it doesnt impress me
[06:27] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, or maybe better "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[06:28] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Even then, X isn't quite as advanced as Quartz (But you can certainly try, just dump the .dfont files in ~/.fonts)
[06:28] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: I really would kill for better looking anti-aliasing about now.
[06:28] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok brb
[06:29] <nekostar> eh
[06:29] <nekostar> x264 compile fails
[06:29] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: the stuff under Linux looks rather like bitmaps that have had a slight gaussian blur applied... just like Windows
[06:29] <nekostar> this is gonna be one of those weeks isn't it
[06:29] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Yes, that's a matter of font rendering engine.
[06:30] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : you be kiddin' mon!  what next? you gonna suggest that superkaramba doesn't have hardware acceleration like the os x dock? h0h0h0!
[06:30] <jaro> Which is the command which takes care about the sedcond stage install?
[06:30] <Sord444> quick question - ubuntu automatically mounts my ntfs partition to /media/hda1 but no normal user can access it. i tried using chmod on it and no help and i tried editing fstab to use options user,rw,auto instead of defaults. how can i allow normal users to access it?
[06:30] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it didnt seem to change it
[06:30] <cafuego> jaro: base-config I think
[06:30] <blueandwhiteg3> Linux is open source, and there's plenty of different anti-alising stuff out there.. why oh why hasn't anybody bothered to incorporate it?
[06:30] <bodaciousbrian> how do i return the value of CC?
[06:31] <SenayB0x0r> ColonelPanique, dat didnt work so well man
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Sord444: umask=000, make sure it says ro instead of rw
[06:31] <SenayB0x0r> got de same ting
[06:31] <cafuego> Sord444: You cannot write to NTFS. For reading, pass 'umask=000'
[06:31] <jaro> cafuego: yes, it is, thanks. I've had to reboot and it didn't come up again.
[06:31] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, then I have no idea
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  i would guess.. legal issues.
[06:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: You can with kernel 2.6.15
[06:31] <Sord444> Hobbsee: where do i put umask=000?
[06:31] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : weird science mon!  you got some bad juju up in de hood. maybe the doctor of Willis can hep you be straight steppin mon.
[06:32] <cafuego> PuMpErNiCkLe: Without eventually destroying the filesystem?
[06:32] <blueandwhiteg3> Dr_Willis: I don't care. VLC, Mplayer, etc are all way worse patent minefields, yet are both widely available and used...
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> fonts under X - are much improved compared to say 4 years.
[06:32] <Sord444> Hobbsee: in fstab?
[06:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: Apparently. :)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> Sord444: sorry, in your fstab
[06:32] <Sord444> ok
[06:32] <cafuego> Sord444: On the options column in fstab
[06:32] <SenayB0x0r> lol, no idea what that means
[06:32] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, if it is an original ubuntu kernel, you should install the driver for your kernel from the restricted repository; otherwise try to recompile your kernel with gcc 4.
[06:32] <madewokherd> I think he's talking about the thing where you can't change the size of any files
[06:32] <madewokherd> oh wait
[06:32] <madewokherd> that's old
[06:32] <machinist> How can I go about playing MP3s? I downloaded the gstreamer-mad package... but every time totem tries to start it says that it is already in use?
[06:33] <Sord444> Hobbsee: thanks that did it!
[06:33] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i tried that, and i figured it was installed, and i switch the xorg.conf to nvidia, and x wouldnt even start
[06:33] <Hobbsee> no problems!
[06:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> machinist: Is it already in use?  (On another virtual display or something...)
[06:33] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : ever hear of that crazy philosophy known as "picking the right tool for the job" or perhaps "beggars can't be choosy"?
[06:33] <madewokherd> amazing
[06:33] <Toma-> bodaciousbrian: did you run nvidia-glx-config enable or whatever it is?
[06:33] <madewokherd> he's right
[06:33] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, sorry I have to go, bye
[06:34] <machinist> ColonelPanique, it is not currently in use, nor is it under one of the vdisplays or anything. I can't launch Totem at all...
[06:34] <davidleeroth> can someone get ubotu to tell me about repositories?
[06:34] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Why don't YOU write a antialiasing engine?
[06:34] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: Then you better not run around telling me how Linux is so ready for the desktop like I've gotten from some people...
[06:34] <machinist> Quite strange really.
[06:34] <cafuego> !repos
[06:34] <ubotu> No idea, cafuego
[06:34] <davidleeroth> !repositories
[06:34] <cafuego> Did he forget them?
[06:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:34] <madewokherd> blueandwhiteg3: whose desktop?
[06:34] <bodaciousbrian> Toma-, i did, but it didnt work, allthough what you just said did detect something that is enable/disable
[06:34] <ColonelPanique> machinist : eh? que?
[06:34] <davidleeroth> !easysource
[06:34] <bodaciousbrian> brb
[06:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:35] <Madpilot> machinist: try installing totem-xine instead; totem-gstreamer (the stock version) seems to have various issues
[06:35] <bina> HAI ...BOLEH KENALAN GAK?????????????????
[06:35] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : Linux is not ready for the desktop my friend...hence the "right tool for the job" i use Linux for servers. and OS X on the desktop skillinz!
[06:35] <machinist> Madpilot, yah, I'm gonna grab the totem-xine package instead... the gstreamer one never ever seems to work for me. Thoght I would give it a go though.
[06:35] <cafuego> ColonelPanique: it's just dandy for my desktop, thanks.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> and i dont care about purty fonts. :P
[06:36] <ernstp> How do I play MIDI files on linux?
[06:36] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: At least you're not talking out both sides of your mouth like I've heard from some Linux fanboys :)
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> !startadesktopwar ? (boiiii)
[06:36] <ubotu> ColonelPanique: Are you smoking crack?
[06:36] <Madpilot> machinist: totem-gstreamer worked fine for me in Hoary, broke in Breezy... -xine works fine, though
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> yes!
[06:36] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: I just think that there's no good reason why fonts can't look good under Linux
[06:37] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : mr jobs butters my bread.  and linux serves my iTunes Library! ;-)
[06:37] <machinist> Madpilot, with the totem-xine package there doesn't seem to be a mpeg package though... any idea on playing mp3s under the xine implementation?
[06:37] <Madpilot> machinist: I'm not sure how it works, but my totem-xine plays mp3 for me... :P  you might need to grab the w32codecs package
[06:38] <machinist> Madpilot, I'll grab those, see what turns up.
[06:38] <ernstp> anyone know a program for midi files?
[06:38] <allison_1984> machinist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:38] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[06:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:38] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: have you been through /usr/share/doc/libfreetype6 yet?
[06:39] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: I'm actually looking at stuff related to that now...
[06:39] <bodaciousbrian> =/ i cant get this to work, and now i screwed up my compiler.
[06:39] <cdubya> ernstp, kmid?
[06:39] <bodaciousbrian> how do i use set CC to point to my compiler?
[06:39] <ernstp> cdubya: oki. know any gnome app also? :-)
[06:39] <cdubya> ernstp, timidity?
[06:39] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : but you know what man? in this community, you cannot sit back and cry about the brokeness of this or that, my friend.  you are exected to do something about it! this stuff didn't all arrive here because a bunch of spoiled complainers sat around and whined it into existence! ;-)
[06:40] <bodaciousbrian> nvm i got it
[06:40] <sorush20> do I need set dma to on on sata drivers?
[06:40] <bina> HAI.......................
[06:40] <cdubya> ernstp, methinks there's a gnome front-end, but not sure on the name
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> You tell them all ColonelPanique ! :P
[06:40] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, it did not work
[06:40] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: before I could do anything about the problem, I have to determine the full extent of the problem. It's quite likely it is already solved, or partly solved.
[06:40] <machinist> allison_1984: the wiki is what got me to the unstable gstreamer performance, haha.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  sorry to hear that.
[06:40] <madewokherd> ColonelPanique: what about bug-filing?
[06:40] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, it frooze at 83% trying to detect my hard drive
[06:40] <machinist> Just gotta switch to Xine... solve me ol' problems.
[06:40] <madewokherd> don't bugs help?
[06:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ColonelPanique: :O
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  icky.   how new is this system? it have sata drives? does Knoppix work fine?
[06:42] <e_machinist> I thought my nick looked strange.
[06:43] <allison_1984> machinist: what player r u using ?
[06:43] <b1shop> looking for a repository that has monoodevelop
[06:44] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, yeah knoppix works good...
[06:44] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, its only 1 year old
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: universe repository has it
[06:44] <weasel__> Hey guys, I have a small question. Wireless drivers.  I have an eMachines M6807, Broadcom 54g Maxperformance BCM4306.  Does Broadcom have linux drivers, or should I go with ndiswrapper?
[06:44] <B1zz> anybody try to install legends on ubuntu?
[06:44] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: how do i add it?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  so we are bacjk to the ubuntu live cd not being as up to date as knoppix. :()
[06:44] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: and can you tell me which version is in there?>
[06:45] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i just wanted to try it before i installed it on my partition
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Open synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> check the box :)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  if you like XFCE - check out Wolvix live cd. it has the latest XFCE on it.  but i still perfer DSL.
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: 0.7
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> madewokherd : aww mon! i almost overlooked ye!  put it this way boiii i have installed six different instances of bugzilla, and proceeded to file bugs into three or four of them! ;-P
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  one reason i dont like the live cd.. the REAL install works Much much much better.
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: so it's a bit behind :)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the ubuntu live cd isent that good of a test it seems. it wont work on my laptop either.. that i do jhave Ubuntu 5.10 isntalled on (5.10 works good)
[06:45] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: yuck.   MonoDevelop 0.9 is currtne!
[06:45] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so you think if i go with the instal i would not have problems ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  go with the install/. $*#*#  the live cd.
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Dapper has 0.9, but Dapper is still 'unstable'
[06:46] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, where ?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  where what?
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: You might be able to install it using the .deb from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/monodevelop/
[06:47] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: i'm new to ubuntu.  looking to devel on it and move to a CentOS box
[06:47] <e_machinist> This is strange... using_dma is reported off for my dvd and cdrw... but under hdparm -i... it reports that both drives are using udma2 mode...
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Welcome here, then. :)
[06:48] <e_machinist> Is this a strange occurrence?
[06:48] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, you said go to something install/ ....???
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  Install the real Ubuntu.. and toss the live cd in the corner. :P
[06:49] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx.  i'm finding my way around now that i got past the no root passwd thing!  ;-)
[06:49] <cafuego> nekostar: Yeah, mplayer has no issues playing x264 video.
[06:49] <ColonelPanique> i thought the live cd was a poor candidate to install from indeed. DJLILYAZI download and burn the single Ubuntu install cd and try that indeed. (grrrrl) ;-)
[06:49] <b1shop> jusst not sure where to find all the extras not included in the DVD
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Synaptic, with all the repositories added, has most stuff.
[06:50] <e_machinist> I actually downloaded the current Breezy badger ISO on my 56k dial up... took forever.
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> e_machinist: :o
[06:50] <e_machinist> Not sure why I did...
[06:50] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: is there a page where i can find all the repositories?
[06:51] <cafuego> !repositories
[06:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:51] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i used the partition magic to do a linux partion is that a good idea ?
[06:51] <b1shop> ty
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the installer can resize the existing windows aprtitions.. no PM needed.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  OR you could just shrink the windows partition and leave a section of the HD unallocated and let the installer partiion/install there,
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  dont let PM make/format the linux partitions befor the isntaller.. its nto worth the effort
[06:52] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, REALLY ?? so if i want it on a partion alone for linux i can do that for me ?
[06:52] <IRON_FART> hello
[06:53] <ColonelPanique> interesting...he is both a solid, and a gas! ;-)
[06:53] <sasquatc4> can anyone help me get direct rendering working on my laptop, i had it at one point, and then it just seemed to dissappear a few weeks ago, i guess after an apt upgrade
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  it worked for my laptop.. ya may want to Defrag/backup  your XP stuff first hiowever.. JUST in case.
[06:53] <blackvd> need some help setting up a staic ip.I'm trying to portforward my net gear RT311 router for azureus, but not sure how to get a static ip?
[06:53] <IRON_FART> indeed
[06:53] <blackvd> anyone familiar with port forwarding
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  well i am off.. good luck
[06:53] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, oh i am scared now ...last time i tried to install linux that was no dual boot
[06:53] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you for allllllll ur help
[06:53] <nima_> guys i kno it sounds stupid...but anybody knos how to update BSD?
[06:54] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, you have been so nice and helpfull thank you soo much
[06:54] <cdubya> blackvd, what's the question?
[06:54] <e_machinist> Update BSD? I had a run in with FreeBSD the other month... never could get the X server running...
[06:54] <nima_> i have that running though..lol
[06:55] <nima_> i just can't (donno how) update it
[06:55] <ColonelPanique> kawkawkaw! i be likin' your style mon! socal! hunginton pier!
[06:55] <e_machinist> nima_: wish you would teach me how, haha. BSD is something I would like to run as a desktop some day, haha.
[06:55] <B1zz> how do i find out what sound device i have?
[06:55] <ColonelPanique> nima_: totally like uhh, the wrong channel boiii!
[06:55] <e_machinist> Gotta link to the manual or tut you followed?
[06:55] <IRON_FART> Hey guys im in need of some help w/ using Ubuntu. I have an A64 and I installed the AMD64 version of Ubuntu 5.10. But the problem is that after I login, there will be artifacts on the screen and everything but the cursor will stop.
[06:55] <IRON_FART> Im stumped
[06:56] <nima_> i kno..sorry i am desperate
[06:56] <sethk> nima_, there are three different BSDs, you know
[06:56] <sethk> nima_, four, actually
[06:56] <blackvd> I have a net gear router which I just figured out how to log into with telenet now I need to portforward it so I can solve my NAT error with azureus.I dont know how to obtain a static ip tho?
[06:57] <nima_> BSD 5.2.1
[06:57] <sethk> nima_, no, I meant freebsd, netbsd, openbsd, I forget the fourth at the moment
[06:57] <nima_> freebsd
[06:57] <ReA> jjj
[06:58] <ReA> nvhbnj
[06:58] <sethk> nima_, it's been a while, but what I recall is that you use ports with a target
[06:58] <nekostar> depends on the vid file cafuego but ok i GUESS ill give it a shot
[06:58] <ReA> jh
[06:58] <nekostar> can mod it to do fullscreen all the time or something..
[06:58] <ColonelPanique> sethk : fourth? there's like over half a dozen or more at this point...ye thinking of dragonfly?
[06:58] <e_machinist> Wonder why there isn't a BSD distro that installs all the good ol' xserver and gnome/kde stuff as a default.
[06:58] <sethk> nima_, not much different from what you do with ubuntu, although it is dealing with source
[06:58] <e_machinist> Aside from the fact that BSD is heavily servified.
[06:58] <ColonelPanique> nima_ : make buildworld (boiii) !
[06:58] <sethk> ColonelPanique, no, you are correct, there is another one with the same form, as in openbsd, netbsd, somethingbsd, which I'm forgetting.
[06:59] <sethk> ColonelPanique, I don't claim to know all of them
[06:59] <ColonelPanique> e_machinist : pcbsd does homey...werd!
[06:59] <sethk> ColonelPanique, I just meant to say that just "bsd" isn't enough
[06:59] <ColonelPanique> sethk : i claim to know .09 of them
[06:59] <e_machinist> ColonelPanique: I have heard of that one... never checked it out though.
[06:59] <Corrupter> is there any way to configure the clock on my desktop to use Firefox as my calender instead of Evolution?
[07:00] <nima_> jsut asking, is there a package manager for Freedsb... like synaptic in debain?
[07:00] <imperfectus> Wow
[07:00] <ColonelPanique> e_machinist : it may be worth checking out.  hell all operating systems are! that's how i've come to use over fifty in my lifetime! though tops 20 rules them all mon! ;-)
[07:00] <imperfectus> banshee _sucks_
[07:00] <sethk> nima_, no, the closest linux thing to it is what gentoo uses
[07:00] <crimsun> Banshee's not at the top of my list, but I don't think it "sucks," either.
[07:00] <sethk> nima_, only gentoo's is full of bugs and the bsd one actually works
[07:01] <imperfectus> I dunno the ports tree isn't perfect.
[07:01] <ColonelPanique> nima_ : werd?!
[07:01] <madewokherd> sethk: you mean portage?
[07:01] <crimsun> nothing's perfect except for boogs.
[07:01] <imperfectus> In edition to the fact that most people simply dont have the TIME for emerge
[07:01] <IRON_FART> Does anyone have any clue why Ubuntu would artifact and crash after boot? Happened on 5.04 and 5.10
[07:01] <e_machinist> ColonelPanique: I agree, all OSs are fun to at least check out once.
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> awww mons! dun be proppin' that crappy species of penguin up in this fine channel. sight!
[07:02] <sethk> madewokherd, right
[07:02] <madewokherd> k
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> crimsun : when we get all these bugs ironed out...we'll be running on flat bugs! sight!
[07:02] <spitfire> Hi everyone
[07:02] <Corrupter> is there any way to configure the clock on my desktop to use Firefox as my calender instead of Evolution?
[07:03] <nima_> anyways..thanks you so much guys
[07:03] <cafuego> emerge causes global warming
[07:03] <nima_> thank**
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> IRON_FART, yes... you have hardware issues... i would bank on it esp. if you use the default install
[07:04] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, LOLROTF
[07:04] <e_machinist> Anyone know how large w32codecs is?
[07:04] <nomasteryoda> large enough =D
[07:04] <allison_1984> around 10MBs no ?
[07:05] <sethk> IRON_FART, check your logs, try to get some clues
[07:05] <e_machinist> allison_1984: not sure... find out soon I suppose... stupid proprietary type stuff... argg.
[07:05] <cafuego> nomasteryoda: Well, it does. Needless compiling uses power, which causes greenhouse emissions.
[07:05] <madewokherd> use flags are occasionally useful