Other than doing 'xset m 3/4 1', is there any way to make a mouse less sensitive?
[12:09] <jimmy__> dont wipe with the 3 leafed plant
[12:09] <Smonkey> Oh, and setting the Resolution option in my xorg.conf doesn't do the trick.
[12:09] <samuli> jimmy__, what plant is three leafed?
[12:10] <Smonkey> samuli: poison ivy
[12:10] <jimmy__> poison Ivy
[12:10] <Harmental> nop....healthy camp with my girl...just some bottles of wine and a french lake...
[12:10] <Harmental> jejejeee
[12:10] <erov> or for those who have become immune or already were.. it doesn't matter ;)
[12:10] <jimmy__> google poison ivy and you'll watch for it in your sleep
[12:11] <samuli> Smonkey, o-kay. I suspected it might be that.
[12:12] <chopin> folks: i'm a noob with kubuntu.  is there a package installer for firefox?
[12:13] <MrBallZ> hi , is there a FAQ or something, regarding the Audio Engines and the Sound Systems,  cause im confused with all that ... im currently having problems with Xine ..
[12:13] <Dasnipa] [> chopin, look in aptitude
[12:13] <chopin> thx
[12:13] <erov> the program adept in System->Adept
[12:13] <Smonkey> I don't know if any one noticed my question, but is there any way, other than using xset or the Resulution option for the mouse driver, to make a mouse less sensitive?
[12:14] <Cntryboy> Is there a macromedia flash program for kubuntu, I'm not talking about just editing files, i'm talking about making flash movies ect.
[12:15] <SpAwN> can anyone help me get my sound working.........
[12:15] <SpAwN> i have a onboard intel ac'97
[12:15] <erov> Cntryboy: www.kde-apps.org
[12:15] <MrBallZ> SpAwN: ask ubotu
[12:15] <erov> there is one, I had it for a while never installed it though
[12:15] <erov> search there
[12:15] <SpAwN> ubotu ac'97?
[12:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about ac'97? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <SpAwN> ubotu soundcard?
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundcard? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:16] <Cntryboy> erov: is that where I can do exactly like mac. flash does for windows..
[12:16] <Cntryboy> btw im not wanting the player
[12:16] <SpAwN> ubotu sound
[12:16] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:16] <gatekeeper> !sound
[12:16] <erov> dunno about exactly.. it's a work in progress.. but yes it was for DEVELOPING flash
[12:16] <Cntryboy> k
[12:17] <erov> Cntryboy: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[12:17] <erov> theres the link
[12:17] <MrBallZ> ubotu: xine
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <Cntryboy> kk thx
[12:18] <SpAwN> brb
[12:20] <Cntryboy> erov: grr it's source I haven't compiled source yet and I don't wanna screw up my kernal
[12:20] <Cntryboy> lol
[12:20] <SpAwN> !sound
[12:20] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:20] <gatekeeper> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9854
[12:20] <erov> it wont screw up your kernel Cntryboy
[12:21] <erov> but.. i'll see what i can do
[12:22] <Cntryboy> k
[12:23] <SpAwN> k did what ubotu said and i still have no sound...........the sound card has worked in linux b4 and still does work,,,,,,,,,,
[12:23] <SpAwN> everything is turned up in the alsamixer except external apmlifier cuz it made my sound NOT work b4
[12:23] <MrBallZ> SpAwN: ubotu is a bot ... just responds , its not alive
[12:24] <SpAwN> MrBallZ, i am very aware that ubotu  is a infobot
[12:24] <gatekeeper> SpAwN: do you get sound if you go to system setting -> sound and press the test sound button?
[12:24] <erov> <- building f4l right now :)
[12:24] <SpAwN> gatekeeper, no
[12:25] <SpAwN> aplay -l shows 2 diff things
[12:25] <Cntryboy> is there an easy howto for compiling source? like from the bot
[12:25] <erov> there are lots.. install 'build-essential' first of all from the pkg repositories
[12:25] <Cntryboy> !compiling
[12:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:25] <erov> yeah there you go
[12:26] <erov> you want the compiled version? i just compiled it on i686 ...
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: what u just said about buildessentials first ect u lost me lol
[12:26] <erov> ok you know how to install programs with adept right?
[12:26] <SpAwN> i just dont understand that when i 1st installed kubuntu i got the sound to work,,,,and now the way i got it to work doesnt work
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: well I need to learn to do it I guess
[12:26] <Cntryboy> erov: yes
[12:27] <Cntryboy> how can I check to see if I have build essentials
[12:27] <Cntryboy> sound familar
[12:27] <erov> there is one called 'build-essential'
[12:27] <Cntryboy> grep | build-essential
[12:27] <Cntryboy> is that how to see if I have it
[12:27] <erov> it installs the things necessary to build programs (with exception to *-devel files that are needed when building for specific things)
[12:27] <z00m> anyone in here into security stress testing apps ?   im trying to use fuzz
[12:28] <erov> no.. just dont worry about it .. i'll give you the binary f4l if you want it
[12:28] <erov> then you can read the tutorials on how to do it later
[12:28] <erov> that way you can get to work on flash
[12:28] <Cntryboy> I have 2.1KB dude takes for ever
[12:28] <Cntryboy> dling this from the site is taking me awhile
[12:28] <erov> oh.. feh! :)
[12:29] <Cntryboy> I know you gotta type something like
[12:29] <erov> let me see how much i can get it compressed
[12:29] <erov> sudo apt-get build-essential
[12:29] <Cntryboy> sudo make; make install
[12:29] <Cntryboy> or something
[12:29] <erov> dont have to type sudo to make.. only to make install
[12:29] <Cntryboy> erov: I think I may have the b-essentials
[12:29] <Cntryboy> whats command to check pc to c
[12:29] <Cntryboy> search for stuff
[12:30] <erov> only way to search for what you have installed is open up adept and type in the first letters or scroll down to build and look
[12:30] <erov> it's either installed or not..
[12:30] <Cntryboy> kk, but I thought there was a command for search to
[12:30] <erov> also f4l uses c++ to compile so make sure you have g++ installed not sure if it is by default with build-essentials
[12:31] <erov> i got the bin compressed to 2.0mb if you want it.. last chance :D
[12:31] <Cntryboy> thx, but Im getting source
[12:32] <erov> k i just installed and ran it.. looks nice
[12:32] <Cntryboy> cool
[12:32] <Cntryboy> I hope its not bugy
[12:33] <Cntryboy> u sure I need build-essentials
[12:33] <erov> yes it's for compiling things
[12:34] <SpAwN> well i am compleatly out of ideas......this is driving me nuts.......................
[12:34] <Cntryboy> someone told me I don't need it for all compiling software
[12:34] <Cntryboy> but okay thx
[12:34] <Aji-Dahaka> hmm, is that edgy eff branched yet?  repos available?
[12:34] <erov> *shrug* its whatever man.. if you got the cd just install it from there.. but you can always try.. when you get the file
[12:34] <erov> then type 'make' you'll know then what you need
[12:35] <SpAwN> the only difference right now that i can see is for some reason it installed a 686 kernel....the 1st time i installed kubuntu it installed a 368 krnel....
[12:35] <z00m> calling all secuirty testers.... if you have used fuzz then please msg me!
[12:35] <z00m> security
[12:41] <Cntryboy> ok back
[12:41] <Cntryboy> got diss
[12:41] <Cntryboy> hey erov: u here?
[12:41] <Cntryboy> erov: I mean u still around
[12:42] <grizzly> adding /usr/bin/enlightenment to /etc/X11/default-display-manager does not work :(
[12:42] <grizzly> kwin is still the default
[12:43] <grizzly> actually afer the first reboot, kubuntu booted into console. /etc/init.d/kdm start started kwin
[12:43] <Cntryboy> erov: ya here man?
[12:44] <Cntryboy> is there anyone here??
[12:44] <Cntryboy> this channel is always so quiet compared to ubuntu
[12:45] <Kr4t05> Okay, does someone want to help me out with my fstab?
[12:45] <grizzly> Just tell me if I am doing something wrong?
[12:45] <grizzly> plz
[12:47] <Cntryboy> grizzly: u might wanna try ubuntu
[12:47] <DrBair> where would one request an updated package to be included in universe?
[12:47] <Cntryboy> seems more ppl help there
[12:47] <DrBair> Kr4t05: whats up with the fstab?
[12:47] <Kr4t05> I try to mount /dev/hdc1 (which is ext2) and when I click the icon on my desktop, it gives me. "Could not mount device. The reported error was: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab  mount: only root can mount /dev/hdc1 on /mnt/music"
[12:47] <erov> yeah whats up Cntry
[12:47] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/86489 is my term msg for installing build essentials
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: You trying to add e-17 as an option to kdm ?
[12:48] <Cntryboy> does it mean I have it? I don't remember dling it but it does look familar
[12:48] <Kr4t05> DrBair, I'll paste my fstab to pastebin.
[12:48] <grizzly> NO E16 as the default window manager ( replace kwin)
[12:48] <darkphader> Kr4t05: is the user option specified in fstab
[12:48] <DrBair> Kr4t05: in the fstab add either auto or user to the options for that device
[12:48] <DrBair> and add a newline to the bottom of the file
[12:48] <erov> Cntryboy: yep it's installed
[12:48] <erov> looks good
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: No idea I use e-17
[12:49] <Cntryboy> erov: okay so do I type make install then next line sudo make install: or make install; sudo make install
[12:49] <Cntryboy> oops I typoed that
[12:49] <erov> make ; sudo make install
[12:49] <grizzly> h3sp4wn: SO how do you make it default?
[12:49] <erov> in the directory of the Makefile (which you can see by a simple 'ls'
[12:49] <Cntryboy> space b4 and after ;  ?
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: I don't use it with kde
[12:50] <grizzly> Oh
[12:50] <Cntryboy> erov its on my desktop first I have to untar it
[12:50] <erov> k
[12:50] <erov> untar it.. then while in that directory
[12:50] <DrBair> what are some good 3rd party repos that have more uptodate packages?
[12:51] <erov> type 'make' then after that finishes 'sudo make install' or just 'cd bin' then './f4l' to test it out before you install it
[12:51] <erov> it puts the output binary into a directory in the f4l directory temporarily.. "bin"
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> grizzly: I just use it on its own - entry in /usr/share/xsessions/e17.desktop Maybe you could adapt that to use it instead of kwin
[12:52] <Cntryboy> do I need to ./configure or anything
[12:52] <Cntryboy> let me pull that site up I never got to look at it
[12:52] <Cntryboy> !compiling
[12:52] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:52] <erov> no not for this package you dont
[12:52] <erov> it has no configure script or anything.. just a Makefile
[12:53] <erov> usually they do have a configure script though. . you are correct on that note.. just not in this case
[12:54] <Cntryboy> erov: I tried tar -zxvf (filename) and I got an error
[12:54] <erov> ok try this
[12:54] <erov> bzip2 -d (filename)
[12:54] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar -zxvf f4l-0.2.1.tar.bz2
[12:54] <Cntryboy> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:54] <erov> then tar xvf (filename)
[12:54] <erov> it's not a gzip it's a bzip2
[12:55] <Cntryboy> ive used same command for bzip2 b4
[12:55] <Cntryboy> grr linux is a pain sometimes
[12:55] <erov> well just try what i said.. and trust me ;) i never have used zxvf for bzip2
[12:55] <erov> but.. thats just me.
[12:55] <Hawkwind> tar xjvf for bz2 files
[12:55] <Cntryboy> so type bzip2 -d (filename)
[12:55] <erov> ok xjvf
[12:55] <erov> what Hawkwind said
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: tar xjvf f4l-0.2.1.tar.bz2
[12:56] <Cntryboy> okay so forget the z and add a j then?
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Correct
[12:56] <erov> yes bz2/gz two diff. formats
[12:56] <Cntryboy> whats difference in -a;slk and a;lk
[12:56] <Hawkwind> z is for .tar.gz and j is for .tar.bz2
[12:56] <Cntryboy> the minus
[12:56] <Hawkwind> The - is obsolete
[12:56] <Cntryboy> got ya hawk so whats the minus mean
[12:56] <Hawkwind> Leave the - out
[12:56] <Cntryboy> do I have to?
[12:56] <SpAwN> k ive just read like 50 threads on the ubuntu forum......and none work.................im starting to think that im not gonna get sound to work...but i cant live without sound
[12:56] <Hawkwind> It does nothing
[12:57] <Cntryboy> thats what confuses me when to put minus and when not
[12:57] <Hawkwind> Why use something that does nothing ?  Save yourself some typing
[12:57] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: You NEVER need the -, it's obsolete
[12:57] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: roger
[12:58] <erov> SpAwN: you say this happened when you upgraded kernels?
[12:59] <SpAwN> erov, no....i installed jubuntu about a week ago...sound didnt work at 1st.....but i got it to.....and for for reason it installed 368 kernel.....i reinstalled lastnight.....and for some reason its installed a 686 kernel
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Is your card detected ?  Do files play ?  Have you checked ALL settings in alsamixer to make sure none are muted(red dot) and that none are turned all the way down ?
[12:59] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, aplay -l shows devices...and ive tried alsamixer........everything is on and up all the way
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: So install a 386 kernel.  Does your system do HT/SMP that you need the 686 kernel ?
[12:59] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You sure there are no red dots in alsamixer ?
[01:00] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, wxcept external amp....which if i tunrn on it sitll doens t work
[01:00] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: There is a known problem that there is one thing that is muted that causes sound not to work
[01:00] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, the 1st time i got sound working i had to turn off external amp
[01:01] <SpAwN> and downmix is off i cnat turn on with m....
[01:01] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: It's just something simple you're missing and/or overlooking
[01:01] <Hawkwind> If it's worked before then it'll work again
[01:01] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i thought at 1st man.....but ive done everything
[01:01] <tristan> what is the gedit for kubuntu
[01:02] <SpAwN> ive tripled checked everything...ive tried alsamixer as toor..
[01:02] <Hawkwind> Try kmix and see if anything in there is muted
[01:02] <Cntryboy> erov: i just opend that page for compiling and it talks about cvs do I need this and what is it?
[01:02] <Hawkwind> tristan: Huh ?
[01:02] <Hawkwind> tristan: kate, kwrite, or any other editor.  You can install gedit if you want
[01:02] <tristan> oh ok
[01:03] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Again, if it worked once then it'll work again.  It's just something you're over looking
[01:03] <SpAwN> in kmix under input what should it be?
[01:03] <erov> Cntryboy: no cntry just do what i said man its that simple..
[01:03] <Cntryboy> okay im going to type make
[01:03] <Cntryboy> then sudo make install
[01:03] <Cntryboy> 2 lines
[01:04] <tristan> hawkwin when I use "sudo kwrite somefile" why do I get errors, it says Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device
[01:04] <Cntryboy> cd@cd-desktop:~/Desktop/f4l-0.2.1$ make
[01:04] <Cntryboy> make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:04] <Hawkwind> tristan: kdesu kwrite somefile
[01:05] <SpAwN> well everything is up and not muted.....kmix says everything unmuted and turned on.............still no sound..........i dont get any kinda sound....no logon noise nothing,,,,,,,,
[01:05] <Cntryboy> erov: ya see that error
[01:06] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Are you sure the speakers are plugged in properly, turned on, turned up
[01:06] <SpAwN> i can play a mp3 it plasy...but no sound
[01:06] <erov> well then you also need libqt3-headers , libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev packages installed
[01:06] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then something somewhere is muted man.  You just have to find it
[01:06] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yes the cord goes right into the correct jack.......the power light is on and the volum is up half way
[01:07] <tristan> Hawkwind, still getting the same errors
[01:07] <erov> those are for developing qt3 packages and are need to compile the source for qt programs (like this f4l)
[01:07] <SpAwN> well i can say for a<PHONE_NUMBER>00% fact that kmix and alsamixer say everything is up and not muted
[01:07] <Cntryboy> erov: grr
[01:07] <Cntryboy> can I download all of them in one command line?
[01:08] <Cntryboy> instead of doing each seperate
[01:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: In alsamixer do you see any 00 with a green background ?
[01:08] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Yes
[01:08] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yes
[01:08] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install file1 file2 file3
[01:08] <SpAwN> on everysingle one
[01:08] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: 00 with a green background means they are MUTED
[01:08] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: space after each file name
[01:08] <Cntryboy> and thats it right
[01:09] <erov> yes
[01:09] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Just like I typed it d00d
[01:09] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, hows that i can take a screen pic............at the top it doesnt say muted
[01:09] <Cntryboy> k
[01:09] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Sorry, I was backwards
[01:09] <erov> now you see why i offered the bin :)
[01:09] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: If you have ALL of them with green backgrounds then that is probably your problem
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You need to hit M on each of them one by one while playing a file with the sound turned up.  Chances are your sound will come up.  Or hit M for one, raise the bars a bit.  It's an alsamixer setting you have wrong
[01:10] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i have a txt file on how i got sound to wokr the 1st time....i did it the same exact way...and still no sound
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then it's an alsamixer setting
[01:10] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I've seen this a million times
[01:10] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, what a pain in the arse
[01:10] <Cntryboy> K getting it
[01:11] <SpAwN> in alsamixer do i need to hit esc for the changed to take affect?
[01:11] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You shouldn't
[01:11] <coachJ> can someone tell me what the PS plugging for Aero-aio is/does?
[01:12] <chopin> so ... is firefox supposed to be on adept?
[01:12] <erov> chopin: yes
[01:13] <Cntryboy> erov: I get same error when I type make
[01:13] <chopin> i'm kinda lost ... should i do a package update or something to see it?
[01:13] <Cntryboy> erov: and I've installed those pkages
[01:13] <coachJ> maybe repos?
[01:14] <Hawkwind> chopin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:14] <chopin> SWEET
[01:14] <chopin> thx Hawkwind
[01:14] <Hawkwind> chopin: Assuming you have enabled multiverse and universe
[01:14] <chopin> hmmmm
[01:14] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[01:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:15] <z00m> need some help mounting my usb pen drive
[01:15] <z00m> how do i mount it as root
[01:15] <Hawkwind> z00m: What device does it show up as ?
[01:15] <Hawkwind> z00m: And what FS is it formatted as ?
[01:15] <erov> argh.. Cntry.. this is why i didnt want you to get into compiling without reading up and getting a feel first.. I don't know what to tell you.. I suppose you can try 'sudo ldconfig' to refresh the libraries other than that I don't know.. I have a massive amount of development files installed cause I compile things regularly..
[01:15] <z00m> media:/sdc1
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/device
[01:15] <z00m> Hawkwind: i have some files in a folder called z00ms-files
[01:16] <z00m> they are just showing as 0bytes in size
[01:16] <Hawkwind> z00m: sudo mkdir /mnt/pen && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen
[01:16] <Hawkwind> z00m: Might need to do mount -t auto /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen possibly
[01:17] <chopin> heheh ... okay, so i see ff in adept but i can't click it.  ?
[01:17] <Hawkwind> chopin: Use apt-get from CLI.  It makes life so much easier
[01:17] <sergio> da da da
[01:17] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I get that same error calling on qt3, but I installed the 3 files needed as erov said
[01:17] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and you're done
[01:17] <chopin> k thx
[01:17] <sergio> hello
[01:17] <ranunculoid> How do I install the new java in kubuntu? I ran the .bin file but Azureus is still using java 1.4 and is very unstable
[01:18] <jakykong> does anyone know how to find out what drivers are currently loaded for a sound card?
[01:18] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I haven't been keeping up with what you are doing in the beginning so I don't know unless you start from the beginning
[01:18] <Cntryboy> trying to compile for first time
[01:18] <Cntryboy> its a flash program
[01:18] <Hawkwind> !java > ranunculoid
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> Anyone know of a nice LaTeX editor which runs as a K application?
[01:18] <z00m> Hawkwind
[01:18] <erov> Hawkwind: he's trying to compile f4l flash 4 linux editor.. http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
[01:18] <sergio> sudo update-alternatives java
[01:18] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: when i type make I get this error : make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', ne            eded by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:18] <z00m> not working its just made  a dir called pen with nothing in it
[01:19] <sergio> that way you tell the system which vm use, renunculoid
[01:19] <Hawkwind> z00m: Did you do the mount command as sudo ?
[01:19] <Hawkwind> z00m: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/pen
[01:19] <jakykong> does anyonu know how to find out what drivers are currently loaded?
[01:20] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I would suggest until you know what you are doing that you don't compile things at all.  Use debs that are prebuilt
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: No need to repeat yourself
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: lsmod might be of some help
[01:20] <Hawkwind> jakykong: lsmod | grep sound
[01:20] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I gotta learn sometime, if I wouldn't get stupid errors
[01:20] <z00m> Hawkwind: its still showing the files as 0bytes
[01:20] <z00m> why is that
[01:20] <erov> Cntryboy: Last time.. I compiled it for you... want it? :)
[01:20] <Cntryboy> zzz
[01:20] <Hawkwind> z00m: Does 'mount' show it as mounted ?
[01:20] <Cntryboy> erov: lol I gotta learn this man
[01:21] <z00m> yes
[01:21] <Cntryboy> erov: pisses me off if I can't
[01:21] <Cntryboy> granted im new to linux but still
[01:21] <z00m> I did a z00m:z00m on the folder b4 will that make it not show the files
[01:21] <erov> i understand..
[01:21] <Hawkwind> z00m: Then it's mounted.  Gotta be something on the pen drive itself then.  Maybe the files aren't there or something
[01:21] <Cntryboy> erov: do you know the ./configure command to show me what all I need to compile this stupid file
[01:21] <Hawkwind> z00m: Could be a permissions problem
[01:22] <z00m> the permissions on the files are set to forbidden
[01:22] <z00m> for group
[01:22] <jakykong> Hawkind: thanks. I only repeated because i didn't know if anyone saw my question :-) sorry.
[01:22] <z00m> and others
[01:22] <gemidjy> who uses beagle?
[01:23] <Snake> #ubuntu?
[01:23] <Snake> :)
[01:23] <gemidjy> was that for me?
[01:23] <erov> hey Cntry hold up.. i think I mayhave what it can be
[01:23] <Snake> gemidjy: mmhmmm
[01:23] <Snake> :)
[01:23] <gemidjy> SeanTater: o.0 howcome?
[01:23] <gemidjy> Snake*
[01:23] <Snake> gemidjy: you asked who uses beagle, its a gnome app isnt it??
[01:23] <Snake> GTK... if you want to get specificl
[01:24] <ranunculoid> Thanks Hawkind, java is now installing. (Linux is so easy when you know how :-D)
[01:24] <gemidjy> Snake: u are in deep illusion, and even if it is, what is wrong in using it if u use KDE ?
[01:24] <teknoprep> WTF
[01:24] <teknoprep> lol
[01:24] <erov> Cntryboy: qt3-dev-tools package
[01:24] <gemidjy> Snake: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2788/snapshot14aq.png
[01:24] <Snake> gemidjy: Nuthin, I just thought it was a GTK app, and usually you have better luck with finding people that run it in #ubuntu...since gnome is GTK happy
[01:24] <erov> its the one i left out.. sorry !!
[01:24] <erov> i believe that will do it for you
[01:24] <SpAwN> k i been playing with the alsa mixer....good news...i now have static coming out of my speakers....so it improved...but all it is is static
[01:25] <erov> it includes qmake which you are missing!
[01:25] <gemidjy> SpAwN: what card?
[01:25] <SpAwN> intel onboard
[01:25] <Snake> gemidjy: I will gladly sit down and stfu now :)
[01:25] <jimmy__> is gigabyte a real enexpencive board or am I just used to paying Asus prices?
[01:25] <SpAwN> its a hyuge pain in the arse
[01:25] <erov> Cntryboy: apt-get install qt3-dev-tools
[01:25] <SpAwN> intel ac'97
[01:25] <gemidjy> Snake: no, just read about it, it is damn useful for huge amount of data
[01:25] <jimmy__> I'm done with Asus
[01:26] <Snake> asus
[01:26] <Snake> eh
[01:26] <jimmy__> looking for a replacement
[01:26] <Snake> DFI <3
[01:26] <coachJ> I have a usb harddrive that says it is mounted but nothing i write to it stays after shutdown, why?
[01:26] <RawSewage> I wish Kerry did in-text searches
[01:26] <z00m> Hawkwind: how to i set permissions on the folder
[01:26] <jimmy__> never has DFI
[01:26] <jimmy__> had
[01:26] <RawSewage> to find text in logs and things
[01:26] <Snake> DFI is great, pick up one of their lanparty boards, I really like em
[01:27] <jimmy__> I'll look in to it
[01:27] <Hawkwind> z00m: chown -R user.user /path/to/files  Replacing user.user with your users name, or chmod 777 /path/to/files
[01:27] <Hawkwind> z00m: Both as sudo of course
[01:27] <Hawkwind> Dinner time here, back in a bit
[01:28] <RawSewage> How does Kerry work anyway?  does it crawl slowly? and will it eventually get to every file you have in the designated folders?
[01:28] <RawSewage> when does it do its crawling
[01:28] <SpAwN> omg i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:28] <jimmy__> I bought two high end Asus boards, one DOA (PCI-E slot) and the other one just went out me
[01:28] <SpAwN> wow
[01:28] <SpAwN> omg what a pain
[01:30] <Ash-Fox> It's a bit of a annoyance that adept doesn't give you access to package changelogs for updates.
[01:31] <jimmy__> does linux actually use the full SLI benifits?
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> For 2 nvidia cards ?
[01:32] <coachJ> what does mean?
' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page?
[01:32] <coachJ> Should I add the 'loop' option?
[01:32] <Ash-Fox> jimmy__, linux is just a kernel, I believe xorg, x11 is what you want to know about.
[01:33] <jimmy__> I kinda ment that, 'through' linux
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> nvidia's drivers should
[01:33] <jimmy__> hope my terminology is right
[01:34] <z00m> h3sp4wn: do you know how to change file permissions on a folder on a usb pen drive
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[01:34] <Ash-Fox> The kernel is fully capable of passing the task to something that can handle it.
[01:34] <z00m> they are set to group forbidden and other fordidden
[01:34] <RawSewage> is inotify in Kubuntu already?
[01:35] <z00m> all the files are showing up as 0kb in size :(
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> z00m: use chown -R username:groupname *
[01:35] <RawSewage> what does this mean:  inotify has been included in the upstream kernel tree as of 2.6.13, so if you are running it or newer, you don't need to do anything to get inotify support.
[01:35] <RawSewage> does that mean I have it?
[01:35] <jimmy__> how do yo9u change the clock from military to normal time
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> z00m: use chmod -R username:groupname 755
[01:36] <RawSewage> quid pro quo
[01:37] <z00m> h3sp4wn: chmod: invalid mode: `z00m:z00m'
[01:37] <chopin> sorry to be so lame but i'm still lost w/ getting ff onto kubuntu.  is it a gnome-only app?  i got gtk+2.10.0 but it can't find gcc ... :-/
[01:37] <z00m> sudo chmod -R z00m:z00m 755 /media/sdc1/z00ms-files/
[01:37] <RawSewage> Firefox is in the repos
[01:37] <RawSewage> very easy to add
[01:38] <RawSewage> use the Add/Remove Programs thing
[01:38] <OOD> chopin: just start up adept and look for firefox
[01:38] <chopin> i saw it but it was greyed out and unclickable
[01:39] <Cntryboy> erov: okay back im dling what u said, how do U know I need that file, see thats what I need to learn how and what to get when I need it
[01:39] <RawSewage> chopin, maybe enable universe
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> z00m: chmod -R 755 z00m:z00m: /media/sdc1/z00ms-files/
[01:40] <z00m> chmod: cannot access `z00m:z00m:': No such file or directory
[01:40] <chopin> RawSewage: i saw that before ... but how?
[01:40] <RawSewage> ok, close Add/Remove Programs
[01:41] <z00m> man im gutted here, i lost all my files i backed up before reinstalling
[01:41] <RawSewage> ok, alt+f2
[01:41] <RawSewage> adept
[01:41] <chopin> k
[01:41] <chopin> heheh
[01:41] <RawSewage> Adept at the top.  Manage Repos
[01:41] <z00m> h3sp4wn: would the files show there size if the permissions was set to forbidden
[01:41] <chopin> k
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> z00m: try running sudo -i
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> z00m: And investigating from ther
[01:42] <RawSewage> see the grayed out Universe lines
[01:42] <RawSewage> right-click them, and enable them
[01:42] <chopin> ooh ... uh,
[01:42] <RawSewage> then Fetch Updates
[01:43] <RawSewage> on the right side
[01:43] <RawSewage> see the universe ones
[01:43] <chopin> ah!
[01:43] <RawSewage> you might as well enable the multiverse too.  are you going to want to get mp3 support?
[01:43] <chopin> so all the entries that have "universe"
[01:43] <z00m> h3sp4wn: when doin the sudo -i then going to the /media/sdc1/z00ms-file/ dirs the files are still showing nothing in them
[01:43] <chopin> heh, probably
[01:43] <z00m> sorry i mean the files are there
[01:43] <RawSewage> enable all the ones that have columns on the right
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> what ?
[01:44] <RawSewage> universe, multiverse
[01:44] <z00m> but when i do nano info.txt there is nothing in the file
[01:44] <z00m> they are 0b in size
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> try unmounting it and doing
[01:44] <z00m> -rwx------ 1 z00m z00m     0 Jul 11 22:33 info.txt
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> fsck /dev/sdc1
[01:45] <chopin> k ... i don't see multiverse but i am downloading a ton of updates now
[01:45] <chopin> i saw "main" but .... no multiverse
[01:45] <chopin> anyway, looking better now
[01:47] <z00m> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[01:47] <z00m> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[01:47] <z00m> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[01:47] <z00m> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[01:47] <RawSewage> ok, do this
[01:47] <z00m>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[01:47] <erov> Cntryboy: sorry was playing Wolfenstein :p uhm.. well i knew qmake probably had something to do with qt which is what that makefile was looking for (qmake) which is with the qt3 packages.. so i looked up everything to do with qt3 and thats the only one i saw that i hadnt told you to get
[01:47] <z00m> the pen drive was fat32
[01:47] <RawSewage> double-click universe , and type after it   multiverse .   so it looks like:   universe multiverse
[01:47] <RawSewage> and then hit ENTER
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> z00m: Oh
[01:47] <chopin> ah HAH!
[01:48] <RawSewage> the changes wont happen unless you click ENTER
[01:48] <z00m> i think i have lost all the files why did that happed ?
[01:48] <RawSewage> then Fetch Updates again
[01:49] <RawSewage> chopin, Firefox should be ungrayed out
[01:49] <chopin> phew
[01:49] <Cntryboy> erov: well I type make in and got this error at the very bottom : http://pastebin.ca/86533
[01:49] <Cntryboy> can't believe so many bs errors
[01:49] <z00m> iz gutted! :(
[01:50] <chopin> RawSewage: it seems i've gotten a lot more firefox-oriented stuff, like dom inspector, but not the browser
[01:50] <erov> well you are trying to compile something that uses a lot of "nonstandard" libraries.. dont expect it to work just like that.. development is very tricky.. on any platform
[01:50] <RawSewage> ok
[01:50] <erov> wow zlib.h thats it.. hell thats easy.. hold on
[01:51] <RawSewage> chopin, to make it easier, just close adept
[01:51] <Hawkwind> z00m: You get it mounted ?
[01:51] <chopin> heheh, ok
[01:51] <RawSewage> and open the Add/Program thing for now
[01:51] <RawSewage> do it that way
[01:51] <chopin> thanks for holding my dang hand thru this
[01:51] <RawSewage> lol
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> !initng
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about initng - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <chopin> haven't been a noob for a while ... but kubuntu is new
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> !performance
[01:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about performance - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:51] <chopin> k, back to add/remove
[01:51] <erov> alright Cntryboy.. one more package i promise.. zlib1g-dev
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> !kernel
[01:52] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:52] <RawSewage> chopin, you follow instructions well , so it's easy to help you
[01:52] <chopin> RawSewage: i think the problem is that i don't have Gnome loaded ... ?
[01:52] <Cntryboy> lol
[01:52] <RawSewage> you dont need Gnome
[01:52] <chopin> haha, i hoped not
[01:52] <Cntryboy> erov: you need to tell me how I can search for files I need
[01:52] <erov> the -dev is for development (or compiling) you need those packages to compile things that refer to them in the programmers code if you are going to COMPILE it
[01:52] <RawSewage> is it still grayed out
[01:52] <Cntryboy> erov: does it have anything to do with ./configure to tell u?
[01:53] <chopin> in add/remove, when i choose "Any Suite" it  comes up but it's grayed out still
[01:53] <chopin> under "internet"
[01:53] <RawSewage> what if you click on the right
[01:53] <RawSewage> those 2 checkboxes
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> erov: What are you trying to compile ?
[01:54] <RawSewage> unsupported and propietary
[01:54] <chopin> that doesn't enable anything new ... and right-clicking doesn't bring anything up
[01:54] <RawSewage> chopin, I dont know then.  Firefox shouldnt be grayed out
[01:54] <chopin> heheh
[01:55] <erov> Cntryboy: ok well i use adept.. and i saw in your error paste.. that zlib h was missing so i searched for zlib then i saw the zlib-dev package.. so i assumed that is it.. and you dont have the zlib development files
[01:55] <RawSewage> did you click Fetch updates after making the repo changes?
[01:55] <SpAwN> i have a partion called /music and i would like to be able to read/write to it with normal user....how cani set this up...i was think of using "chown user:user /music"
[01:55] <chopin> yeah
[01:55] <chopin> i think the repo may be hosed
[01:55] <Cntryboy> erov: kk thx, yah I didn't have it, its dling now
[01:55] <chopin> somehow. ...
[01:55] <erov> configure has nothing to do with it thought configure would HELP greatly in this case the programmer did NOT include configure scripts with this source
[01:55] <chopin> perhaps i should reinstall adept?  ;-)
[01:55] <Cntryboy> done now
[01:55] <Cntryboy> here goes
[01:55] <RawSewage> no
[01:55] <chopin> haha
[01:55] <RawSewage> chopin, paste it
[01:56] <RawSewage> !paste
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:56] <erov> so youre own your own.. not our fault.. its the developers.. not all source code is like this
[01:56] <chopin> !paste?
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about paste? - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <chopin> i c
[01:56] <chopin> one sec
[01:56] <RawSewage> !repos
[01:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> !automatix
[01:56] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:56] <Cntryboy> erov: good lord Im sick of errors for one day
[01:56] <z00m> Hawkwind: yes its mounted but the files are still 0bytes in size even when looking at them with sudo -i
[01:57] <erov> i understand.. its like that when you dont know wtf is going on.. trust me it was like that for me at one point.. now i just breeze through cause I already have an idea.. and if i dont I know how to figure it out
[01:58] <erov> err that didnt come out right .. anyhow.. it takes time.. you cant really expect to be up and compiling complex source code on your first days of linux unless it's simpler and uses less development libraries.. you have to remember ubuntu out of the box doesnt have anything for compiling
[01:58] <erov> bbl
[01:58] <chopin> RawSewage: is there a config file i can pull the repos out of?
[01:58] <teknoprep> YO
[01:58] <teknoprep> why can't i download
[01:59] <Cntryboy> kk
[01:59] <Cntryboy> cya
[01:59] <teknoprep> aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[01:59] <teknoprep> http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[01:59] <Cntryboy> can anyone make head or tails out of this error:  http://pastebin.ca/86539
[01:59] <teknoprep> its just showing up as ascii
[02:00] <teknoprep> ?
[02:00] <RawSewage> chopin,  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <chopin> heh thx
[02:00] <Raven301> !koffice
[02:00] <ubotu> Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-151.php
[02:02] <jimmy__> anybody familiar with DFI?
[02:03] <chopin> RawSewage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17872
[02:03] <RawSewage> chopin, theyre not all enabled
[02:04] <RawSewage> see the multiverse with # in front
[02:04] <RawSewage> that means its not enabled
[02:04] <chopin> for backports?
[02:04] <RawSewage> what
[02:04] <RawSewage> close Add/Remove
[02:04] <RawSewage> open Adept
[02:04] <RawSewage> go to Manage Repos again
[02:05] <chopin> k
[02:06] <RawSewage> ungray out the other universe ones
[02:06] <RawSewage> and multiverse ones
[02:06] <chopin> ok
[02:06] <chopin> oooooh!
[02:06] <chopin> FINALLY
[02:06] <chopin> found it
[02:06] <RawSewage> ok cool
[02:06] <chopin> i did that and fetched.  there it stinking is.
[02:06] <Hawkwind> chopin: Also, read this post on my forum:  http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[02:07] <chopin> thx folks
[02:07] <Hawkwind> chopin: That will get you a ton of repos to use for all sorts of good software
[02:07] <RawSewage> ok
[02:07] <chopin> and Hawkwind: i totally will
[02:07] <chopin> thx!  phew ... i'm gladd y'all atre on freeenode
[02:08] <RawSewage> did I already give you my PayPal address
[02:08] <RawSewage> I forgot
[02:08] <chopin> not yet ... :-)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Are you recommending unofficial repos ? which ones anything good ?
[02:09] <talljon84> Alright, I need some help. ./configure is saying that I can't compile simple C++ programs; however, I do have libstdc++-dev installed. What else do I need?
[02:09] <RawSewage> that repos is too f#$ing bug
[02:09] <RawSewage> big
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> talljon84: have build essential ?
[02:11] <HolyBastard> Hey, I've downloaded the DVD and I don't quite get what it has more then the cd version for the extrat 3GB... I thought there was more application included but there isn't anything different I could notice.
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: I has the whole of main on cd
[02:12] <RawSewage> HolyBastard, DVD is for people with bad internet connections, I guess
[02:12] <talljon84> h2sp4wn: no but since I do now, it magicaly works. yay! haha
[02:12] <RawSewage> You dont need the DVD anymore
[02:12] <RawSewage> just the CD
[02:12] <chopin> ahhhhhhhhhh ... firefox .... :-D
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> Why do you need firefox :D
[02:13] <HolyBastard> RawSewage (like me?) :P
[02:13] <HolyBastard> thats what I thought at first...I though you had more stuff on the dvd so less download
[02:13] <RawSewage> I dont know how the DVD works
[02:13] <h3sp4wn> You have the whole of main (with the old installer) and then livecd
[02:14] <RawSewage> I use Konqueror to browse the web now
[02:14] <RawSewage> I used to use Firefox
[02:14] <chopin> i'm a Plone developer
[02:14] <HolyBastard> h3sp4wn ok so if I want to install everything (like a developer install) I need to use the old installer?
[02:14] <jimmy__> Konqueror seems to work a little faster in KDE
[02:15] <RawSewage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_(content_management_system)
[02:15] <jimmy__> but  I like Firefox better
[02:15] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: You won't need all the dev stuff or do you ?>
[02:16] <HolyBastard> h3sp4wn well I would need make, gcc, kernel header and so on. I would also like to have kdevelop installed by default but I don't know if it is inside the dvd.
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> HolyBastard: If you just go into the packages directory on the dvd you can do sudo dpkg -i *.deb (and you get everything) maybe have to do it twice (Is that what you need the whole of main)
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> info kdevelop
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> "info kdevelop
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop
[02:17] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> !info  kdevelop
[02:18] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[02:18] <HolyBastard> oh ok I didn't know I could look directly in the dvd
[02:18] <RawSewage> !kdevelop
[02:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdevelop - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <crimsun> kdevelop3
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop3
[02:18] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> It is in universe so it won't be on the dvd I don't think
[02:19] <HolyBastard> haa well thats not a problem
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Well at least it is there
[02:35] <Zoolie> hello
[02:36] <Zoolie> uniq, i found a command to select boot splash screen,include the default ubuntu version : "update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" it makes difference only in root terminal,sudo gets error message.
[02:47] <D4m4ge> bye all
[02:53] <talljon84> Evening all- So what is the necessary .deb file that contains KDE headers? The most obvious choices from Adept give a break warning when I select them.
[02:53] <coma> !fat bottomed girls
[02:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about fat bottomed girls - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <doppelganger> what do you call the taskbar in KDE? i really want to change the skin or appearance of it
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> !burning
[02:54] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[02:54] <doppelganger> probably the stupidest question ever, just needed to google for themes for it
[02:55] <coma> !panel
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about panel - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> !kpanel
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpanel - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <eXCeSS> kde kicker
[02:55] <eXCeSS> i win
[02:55] <coma> !taskbar
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about taskbar - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> !kde kicker
[02:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde kicker - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <coma> man ubotu is past his prime
[02:56] <eXCeSS> doppelganger: http://kde-look.org
[02:56] <coma> !ubotu
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:56] <doppelganger> i just got XGL working fine, now i need a good taskbar so my shit isn't so ugly
[02:57] <coma> !love
[02:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about love - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <doppelganger> (not that its worse than windows, granted, but i want some taskbar goodness)
[02:57] <Hawkwind> Let's stop playing with the bot
[02:57] <coma> :(
[02:57] <coma> but ubotu is fun
[02:57] <coma> he needs to learn to love....
[02:58] <eXCeSS> !xgl
[02:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:58] <coma> !ubotu learn
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about learn - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:00] <Hawkwind> coma: Please stop, seriously
[03:00] <coma> you guys are no !fun
[03:01] <doppelganger> who was it that mentioned kde-look.org?
[03:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> coma: You can play with the bots in #debian-bots
[03:01] <Hawkwind> coma: The bot is NOT a toy.   In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB
[03:08] <doppelganger> cool, let me check that out
[03:08] <abattoir> doppelganger: if you have universe installed, get it through adept or apt-get
[03:08] <doppelganger> thanks guys
[03:08] <talljon84> I'm working on compiling Kopete 0.12 (since the unoffical package doesn't work in my case). I need to use the KDE headers (./configure is complaining) but all the kde-dev related packages give me a warning that it will break something. Which package should I really be using?
[03:08] <abattoir> doppelganger: you should get themes for those on kde-look
[03:09] <doppelganger> i'm just being careful not to change the way the menus work, especially system settings, it's laid out nicely
[03:09] <doppelganger> just not sure if themes change that whole thing or not too
[03:10] <doppelganger> i dunno, i'll just check out what you guys mentioned and stfu for a sec  ;)
[03:10] <Eeyore> i need to change the default boot os
[03:10] <Eeyore> how ?
[03:10] <abattoir> doppelganger: only the 'buttons' change afaik...
[03:11] <doppelganger> ok, just wasn't sure how much it would change kde
[03:11] <doppelganger> i like it's simplicity
[03:11] <doppelganger> thanks aba
[03:12] <doppelganger> (plus i don't wanna screw up xgl) 8)
[03:12] <fernandogarib_> my ferst name is fernando and secon name is Garib, i m  chilian
[03:12] <doppelganger> i'm 2 days into linux... heh.  Anyways, i'm off
[03:13] <fernandogarib_> whe are you from?
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: The only way I know is to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:13] <Hexidigital> i use KDE and Gnome, but i want to boot into terminal... can someone help me? (i already edited the /etc/inittab file, but KDE still comes up at boot
[03:14] <abattoir> Hexidigital: try appending 'single' to your kernel boot paramenters
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: run 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> doppelganger: If you want symplicity try fluxbox
[03:14] <Hexidigital> abattoir:: i'm not sure how to do that... isn't there a rc.conf file i need to edit? (i have done this before, but dont remember how)
[03:15] <abattoir> Hexidigital: open up /boot/grub/meu.lst, if you are using grub
[03:17] <abattoir> Hexidigital: done?
[03:17] <Hexidigital> yeah... i saw it under recovery mode...
[03:18] <Hexidigital> thx abattoir
[03:18] <Hexidigital> brb... need to test
[03:18] <abattoir> Hexidigital: in the entry for the kernel which you use... append single to the end of the kernel entry line
[03:18] <abattoir> a bit, confusing :P
[03:19] <Hexidigital> does it matter if it's after "splash" or not, abattoir ?
[03:19] <Eeyore> CheeseBurgerMan: i did that once and became unbootable
[03:19] <Hexidigital> or before?
[03:19] <Eeyore> all i did was move things around
[03:19] <abattoir> shouldnt matter as long as it is in the same line...
[03:19] <Hexidigital> ok
[03:19] <Hexidigital> thx
[03:19] <Hexidigital> be right back..
[03:19] <abattoir> Hexidigital: be careful, if it gives problems...
[03:19] <abattoir> Hexidigital: use 'e' in grub menu.. omg he left :(
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eeyore: Don't move things around. You change a number around line 14 to change the default entry.
[03:23] <Hexidigital> erm.. didn't work...
[03:23] <Hexidigital> kicked me into root login halfway into booting....
[03:24] <Eeyore> what i was hoping to do is move windows to the top of the list as default and hide the menu.  when i moved windows up, i got unbootable pc
[03:25] <aegeanlinux>  Does anyone know of a browser for KDE that uses Gecko (Mozilla's Rendering Engine)?
[03:25] <abattoir> Hexidigital: i thought that's what you wanted..?
[03:26] <tailsfan> Is theer a site or page for where I can see what Kubuntu contains, I ordered some CDs from Shipit and wanted to know what Kubuntu contained
[03:26] <Hexidigital> yeah... but i want my system to start up completely, also...
[03:26] <Hexidigital> i logged out of root, and it continued booting
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> aegeanlinux: I assume that you mean a QT based browser that uses Gecko?
[03:27] <eXCeSS> tailsfan: same as ubuntu with a different desktop environment is what im lead to beleive you can amke ubuntu linux with 3 packages
[03:27] <jk-> anyone using amarok 1.4.1 ?
[03:27] <aegeanlinux> Yes I do
[03:27] <aegeanlinux> It's heaps good
[03:28] <tailsfan> so the games and other apps are the same
[03:28] <jk-> aegeanlinux: no problems playing flacs
[03:28] <jk-> actually, i should check other formats...
[03:29] <aegeanlinux> jk- I don't have any flacs, but if Xine can play it.... can't see why not
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> aegeanlinux: Which browser are you using that does that ?
[03:30] <jk-> aegeanlinux: yeah, just upgraded from 1.4.0 to 1.4.1, and xine is spitting chips at me
[03:30] <jk-> s/xine/the xine engine/
[03:30] <aegeanlinux> jk- yes
[03:30] <aegeanlinux> I had that to, just get the latest xine, 1.1.2 i think
[03:32] <dydimustk> I'm sure I'm evil if I don't want to use konqueror... but how can i make katapult open firefox when typing firefox?
[03:32] <doppelganger> anyone here have that kbfx?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Put Firefox in the K Menu.
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> yes, I do
[03:33] <doppelganger> how the world do i open it?
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> right click on the kicker
[03:33] <doppelganger> its not in the menu, typing that doesn't open it
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> click add applet
[03:33] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: even if it's already listed under internet
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Oh, no.
[03:33] <aegeanlinux> and search for kbfx
[03:34] <aegeanlinux> is it not in the "Add Applet" dialog?
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: restart katapult, that'll make it rebuild it's index.
[03:34] <dydimustk> ok thanks CheeseBurgerMan
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: There must be an easier way to make it do that, but I don't know it. :)
[03:34] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: its been restartedd  several times, but I can't get beyond "firefox central - open bookmark"
[03:35] <doppelganger> hmm
[03:35] <doppelganger> i was thinking this was a whole change of the taskbar
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: you could always delete the bookmark if you don't want it, or you can set it to not index your bookmarks.
[03:36] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: yeah, it's that 'set it' part that I can't find
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: Mine goes to Firefox, and then Firefox Central, not sure why yours is different.
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: open Katapult and press Ctrl+C
[03:36] <dydimustk> CheeseBurgerMan: are there supposed to be preferences somewhere
[03:36] <dydimustk> AHHHH
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> dydimustk: yes! :D
[03:36] <dydimustk> that's what I was looking for!
[03:36] <dydimustk> thanks!
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[03:37] <doppelganger> man, i have no clue what i'm doin
[03:37] <dydimustk> glorious!
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: Half the fun is figuring out what you're doing. :)
[03:38] <doppelganger> agean- whats the easiest way to change the whole look of my taskbar?
[03:38] <doppelganger> thats all in kubuntu that i really want to change
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> What is the 'whole look'?
[03:38] <doppelganger> but i want button and all to change...  preferably of someone else's making
[03:39] <doppelganger> i want a new Kde start button, and just a classier feel to it
[03:39] <aegeanlinux> kbfx is good
[03:39] <lucas> i have an 1 GB .tar.gz file, which I can't extract with Ark coz it crashes. Is there a way to extract this file using the console?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> For the button, you can either change /usr/share/icons/<iconset>/<size>/kmenu.png, or you can use KBFX. For the background, you can find many at http://kde-look.org
[03:40] <doppelganger> when i do that search like you said, it just comes up with kbfxvista
[03:40] <unix_infidel> !tar
[03:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[03:40] <aegeanlinux> yes tar -xvf {{FILE}}
[03:40] <unix_infidel> !gzip
[03:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about gzip - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <unix_infidel> lol.
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: kbfxvista is the right applet
[03:40] <doppelganger> and it puts it down at the bottom, and its all squished up and ugly lookin
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> doppelganger: OK then, change the kmenu.png
[03:41] <lucas> which are the commands to extract a tar.gz file?
[03:41] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf {file}
[03:41] <SpAwN> well ktorrent is kinda not working good...no matter what ports im using its slow as hell......so i installed sun-javafrom the repos and azureus ......but azureus doesnt work right...it just loads...but no user interface comes up...how can i fix this
[03:41] <lucas> (it's a big one-- dunno if that makes a difference)
[03:41] <aegeanlinux> replace {file} with the file name
[03:41] <doppelganger> i was under the impression that it was just going to change the whole thing
[03:41] <doppelganger> i dunno...  i dunno what i'm sayin
[03:42] <lucas> aegeanlinux: its not .tar, its tar.gz
[03:42] <doppelganger> i see screenies of people's desktops with these sweet taskbars and stuff
[03:42] <doppelganger> i just want some taskbar lovin
[03:42] <lucas> aegeanlinux: shall i first convert tar.gz into tar?
[03:42] <aegeanlinux> tar can do .tar.gz and .tar.bz2
[03:43] <aegeanlinux> don't need too
[03:43] <chopin> !multiverse
[03:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:43] <lucas> aegeanlinux k th
[03:43] <lucas> x
[03:43] <aegeanlinux> lucas, is it working?
[03:44] <lucas> aegeanlinux: yeah :)
[03:45] <lucas> aegeanlinux: slowly, but working
[03:45] <scythe> any body have kubuntu or ubuntu installed on a laptop here ?
[03:45] <aegeanlinux> lucas: Just a handy hint for next time ;) tar can do .tar.bz .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz too
[03:45] <lucas> aegeanlinux: kewl
[03:45] <scythe> I am having problems with speedstep that has me completely flummoxed
[03:46] <doppelganger> is "kicker" what you guys call the taskbar in kubuntu?
[03:46] <aegeanlinux> yes
[03:46] <doppelganger> weird name.. lol
[03:46] <doppelganger> but..  hmm
[03:46] <aegeanlinux> You get used to it after a while ;)
[03:47] <doppelganger> so...  i guess i just want a cool kicker
[03:47] <aegeanlinux> :D yes
[03:47] <doppelganger> i don't want a whole dang theme, just a cool kicker
[03:47] <lucas> doppelganger: try enabling transparency ;)
[03:47] <aegeanlinux> yes, that is correct
[03:47] <scythe> is there a way to add icon zooming like on a mac?
[03:47] <doppelganger> i want...  sorta like a Vista-esque kicker, with a sweet start button
[03:48] <doppelganger> hehe
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> kde-look.org
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> done
[03:48] <lucas> doppelganger: kbfx
[03:48] <doppelganger> god i feel like an idiot
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> so your not the only one ;)
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> why?
[03:48] <doppelganger> i don't understand kbfx though....
[03:48] <aegeanlinux> is it on your kicker yet?
[03:48] <doppelganger> when i put that thing down on the kicker or whatever...   its...  just like a little button
[03:48] <doppelganger> that does nothing
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> You need to do the setting in kcontrol
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> *settings
[03:49] <lucas> doppelganger: it should open the kmenu...
[03:49] <doppelganger> it does jack, lol
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> and then remove and add the kbfx applet
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> or restart KDE
[03:49] <doppelganger> i haven't restarted KDE since i installed kbfx... maybe thats it
[03:49] <aegeanlinux> __could__ be
[03:49] <doppelganger> (?)
[03:50] <pestilence> i'm using klibido with newshosting.  everytime i update a group it expires all the messages and comes up empty.  anybody know what the deal is?
[03:50] <lucas> doppelganger: just kill kicker
[03:50] <lucas> aegeanlinux: right?
[03:50] <doppelganger> just wondering how i will get it back if i do
[03:50] <lucas> no need to restart
[03:50] <aegeanlinux> lucas : yes, just go into konsole
[03:50] <doppelganger> ok
[03:50] <aegeanlinux> lucas: This is linux
[03:51] <lucas> :-)
[03:51] <scythe> anyone in here have breezy installed on a laptop, I could use some help with controlling speedstep
[03:51] <pestilence> i have breezy on this laptop, but haven't bothered with speedstep
[03:52] <scythe> dang
[03:52] <pestilence> i mean, whatever is installed by default, that's what i have.
[03:52] <doppelganger> brb ;p
[03:52] <scythe> it wont run at full speed without acpid running, but it steps way down when I close the screen and use an external moniter
[03:53] <pestilence> hmm
[03:53] <scythe> I just want to know how I disable that sensor (gotta do it in software, I am not breaking a HW sensor to just get it working right)
[03:53] <pestilence> i don't understand why it won't run at full speed without acpid
[03:54] <scythe> its a sony and without acpid starting (took it out of /etc/rc2.d) I could only run at 600 mhz, not 1.2ghz
[03:55] <scythe> after I started it manually, it bumped up to 1.2ghz immediately
[03:56] <pestilence> so, if you look in /etc/acpi/
[03:56] <doppelganger> ok kicker, lets do this
[03:56] <pestilence> there are the scripts which control the actions taken
[03:56] <scythe> right, brb, gotta go get the laptop, im on the mac right now
[03:56] <doppelganger> ugh. bah
[03:57] <scythe> back
[03:57] <pestilence> so of particular interest might be /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[03:58] <pestilence> it forces dpms on, dunno if that coincides with the throttling
[03:59] <scythe> wow, just cat'd lid.sh, no clue what it actually says
[03:59] <pestilence> after you close the lid, try running "xset dpms force off"
[03:59] <scythe> wish i spoke better scripting:)
[03:59] <pestilence> see if that unthrottles the cpu
[03:59] <pestilence> i don't think it should, though.  i thought dpms was strictly a monitor thing.
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> whats bad?
[04:00] <scythe> thanks
[04:00] <Hawkwind> Anyone know if there are xen kernels in Kubuntu and if so, what file name they use ?
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger:  whats bad?
[04:00] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: Xen kernel???
[04:01] <scythe> the wife is looking at it now.  I dont have the external stuff near, so I will have to test later.
[04:01] <doppelganger> well...  i dunno
[04:01] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: Yes, xen, for running virtual machines
[04:01] <Whil> xen?
[04:01] <Whil> Hawkwind: why not use wmware?
[04:01] <doppelganger> i understand from what you said that i can configure that button
[04:01] <Hawkwind> Because xen is many times faster
[04:01] <doppelganger> but that button is ugly as all sin
[04:01] <Whil> Hawkwind: or qemu
[04:01] <Hawkwind> vmware and qemu are super slow compared to xen
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> What do you mean by ugly?
[04:02] <doppelganger> says like "gnu linux" or something on it, and it's all squinched up
[04:02] <Whil> Hawkwind: okay i have never heard of xen for any ubuntu
[04:02] <doppelganger> barely even readable
[04:02] <Hawkwind> Whil: Xen is huge in Debian.  It's widely used
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger: Why not change it?
[04:02] <Whil> Hawkwind: hmmmmm i dunno
[04:02] <doppelganger> i want more than a button i guess
[04:02] <aegeanlinux> Hawkwind: why not compile your own?
[04:03] <Hawkwind> aegeanlinux: If I have to I will, but I'd rather use prebuilt deb packages
[04:03] <doppelganger> i'd like the whole "kicker" redone
[04:03] <aegeanlinux> There are sets that come with kicker backgrounds and everything
[04:03] <scythe> actually, there is some -unthrottle stuff in the script (lid.sh)
[04:04] <doppelganger> where are such things
[04:04] <doppelganger> hehe
[04:04] <doppelganger> and are they easy to install
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> www.kde-look.org
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> simple
[04:04] <doppelganger> oh, well, i've found them there
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> just changing kicker settings and kbfx settings
[04:04] <doppelganger> but....   i havent' seen any instructions on how to install one on kdfx.org
[04:04] <aegeanlinux> the kbfx site has some to
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> You just tar -xvf the file you download
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> and set kbfx to that pathc
[04:05] <aegeanlinux> *path
[04:05] <doppelganger> where do i configure kbfx?
[04:05] <doppelganger> or "set to that path"
[04:05] <doppelganger> i guess
[04:06] <doppelganger> thats what confused me at first...  i couldn't find what i thought was going to be a program anywhere in my menus
[04:06] <aegeanlinux> kcontrol is your friend
[04:06] <doppelganger> lemme type that and see what it even is  ;P
[04:09] <doppelganger> crap, sorry agaen
[04:09] <doppelganger> says i'mm unregistered and can't chat
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> apt-get moo
[04:11] <aegeanlinux> s'all good
[04:11] <jfields> i hate to ask this question in here... but i have a client that uses dialup .. and only uses it like once a month.... is there any provider that doesnt require a damn credit card and offers a limited totally free service
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Does he live close to you ?
[04:12] <jfields> yes... lol
[04:12] <jfields> but that will not work.. haha
[04:12] <doppelganger> how do i register my nick
[04:14] <Hobbsee> !register > doppelganger
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Connect the two places with wifi
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> jfields: 2 good antenna's and routers
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> jfields: Maybe ask somewhere else thats what I would do
[04:16] <doppelganger_> woot, ok
[04:16] <aegeanlinux> got it?
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> !moo
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about moo - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <doppelganger_> yassah
[04:16] <doppelganger_> =)
[04:16] <aegeanlinux> you like?
[04:16] <SpAwN> should i manualy install java to get azureus to work??
[04:17] <doppelganger_> check pm aegean
[04:17] <aegeanlinux> gotcha
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin (with aptitude)
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:18] <SpAwN> i installed it b4 with adept
[04:18] <SpAwN> should i uninstall with that 1st?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Toss the GUI's man :P
[04:18] <scythe> how do i restart x server?
[04:18] <Hawkwind> scythe: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:18] <aegeanlinux> ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:19] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Use CLI to install things :P
[04:19] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, hehe
[04:19] <scythe> hmm... i tried that
[04:19] <scythe> brb, gotta reboot
[04:19] <Hawkwind> Reboot ?
[04:19] <Hawkwind> You're using Windows ?
[04:20] <DarkAudit> oh the pain :)
[04:20] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to use an xscreensaver for kscreensaver.  For example, I'd like to use the pacman screensaver.  How would one go about doing this?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> Ertain: install xscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers
[04:21] <Ertain> Right-o then.
[04:21] <Ertain> Already installed.
[04:22] <ubuntu> ;]
[04:23] <scythe> nope, the ctrl-alt-backspace wasn't working to reboot x
[04:23] <Ertain> Is it as easy as copying/linking certain *.desktop files?
[04:23] <scythe> and i could have killed it, but it didn't occure to me
[04:24] <digitalslacker> could somebody tell me how to turn off power saving in Dapper? I don't want my monitor falling asleep on me
[04:24] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Look in kcontrol or in systemsettings
[04:24] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Probably something there for sure in one of those two
[04:25] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn, sudo update-alternatives --config java fixed the problem thanks
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: No problems
[04:26] <digitalslacker> Hawkwind: tried that. It works, but it keeps destroying my resolution in xorg.conf, so is there something in a config file somewhere that I can change?
[04:27] <Hawkwind> digitalslacker: Not sure.  I set mine in xscreensaver and it doesn't go to sleep on me
[04:27] <digitalslacker> Hawkwind: yeah, that could be a problem since I don't use screensavers. I need the desktops to be visible to customers at all times
[04:29] <actinic> lets see some of your desktop screenies
[04:29] <actinic> mine with working lm-sensors & gkrellm: ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/mist2.jpg
[04:30] <abattoir> digitalslacker: the resolution is changed even if the 'Size, Orientation...' tab, in the Display section has the resolution you want?
[04:31] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yes, it takes down the entire xorg.conf and replaces it with one that's so stripped down I wouldn't know where to begin to fill in all the blanks
[04:32] <scythe> no go on lid.sh edits that comment out dpms
[04:32] <scythe> grr, back to the building block
[04:34] <digitalslacker> any other ideas on turning off the power saving?
[04:35] <abattoir> digitalslacker: i guess, you have also tried turning it off, allow it to change your xorg.conf, and then replace it w/ the old xorg.conf...?
[04:35] <abattoir> because, i cant seem to find a section for 'power' in xorg.conf
[04:36] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yeah, I tried replacing it, but it the power saving comes right back. I didn't see anything for power in xorg.conf either
[04:37] <digitalslacker> it doesn't make any sense really
[04:38] <abattoir> digitalslacker: btw, i dont see why you'd need admin priviledges... really
[04:38] <abattoir> hence xorg.conf shouldnt be touched
[04:39] <abattoir> digitalslacker: Kcontrol->Peripherals->Display right?
[04:39] <digitalslacker> 2 of the 3 systems I use myself on a regular basis are running Dapper. One was a straight dapper install and the other was upgraded. The upgraded one works fine, but I adjusted that in Breezy and the setting carried over
[04:39] <interfear> can someone tell me how to install a pcf font so bitchx looks right in gnome terminal
[04:39] <interfear> when i install nexus font in universe it doesnt work
[04:40] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yes, that's one of the ways I tried changing it
[04:40] <interfear> or synpatic rather
[04:40] <abattoir> digitalslacker: well, if you dont touch, the Administrator mode button, xorg.conf shouldnt be touched
[04:40] <ken> does anyone know how i can control my client desktop on a samba network?
[04:41] <abattoir> digitalslacker: for me, power mgmt. works w/o having to get into Administrator mode
[04:41] <digitalslacker> I'm fairly certain I tried that, but I'll try again, make sure I didn't just screw with something else before and not remember
[04:42] <scythe> got it working, thanx
[04:42] <abattoir> digitalslacker: as far as i can see, only the h/w tab there requires admin. priv., quite rightly
[04:42] <scythe> I made a backup of the script, then when I restored it, i forgot to comment out the dpms line
[04:44] <ken> i was wondering if someone could give me a hand on working with a samba network
[04:45] <scythe> that wasnt the fix though, I copied the dpms and the unthrottle lines into the first if statement just before the done
[04:45] <scythe> that worked
[04:46] <digitalslacker> abattoir: trying it again, so I need to leave it idle for a little while. The resolutions don't seem to have been changed anywhere, so I'll have to see
[04:46] <abattoir> digitalslacker: first enable it, chg. to 1 min., see if it works, then disable it...
[04:47] <abattoir> you'll know quicker :P
[04:47] <frode_> Hi all
[04:47] <aegeanlinux> Hey frode_
[04:49] <digitalslacker> oops, closed the wrong window
[04:50] <actinic> ken, samba link:  http://www.qnd-guides.net/qnd-samba.html
[04:50] <actinic> don't know much about it
[04:52] <abattoir> digitalslacker: tried the 1 min. thing?
[04:53] <actinic> here's another: http://samba.netfirms.com/sambconf.htm
[04:53] <scythe> anyone here have a sony laptop with a ms reader?  Have you gotten it to work under dapper, breezy?
[04:53] <abattoir> scythe: ms reader ?
[04:53] <abattoir> oh ok sorry
[04:53] <scythe> built in memorystick (that evil encrypted pos that they developed)
[04:53] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone.  I'm still tryingt to figure out how to use the pacman screensaver with kscreensaver.  I have written a *.desktop file and put it in the /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers directory, but it still won't pick it up as a screensaver.
[04:55] <abattoir> scythe: vaio model?
[04:55] <scythe> t-250
[04:55] <digitalslacker> abattoir: yeah, turned it on at 1 minute and worked normally and turned it back off, which it seems to be working after 1 minute
[04:56] <scythe> the only os that has been able to read (and not wright) to it was a freebsd based live cd
[04:56] <Ertain> Okay, I now have it recognized.  Now all I need to do is catagorize it.
[04:56] <abattoir> digitalslacker: so it works fine?
[04:56] <scythe> and that was sporadic at best
[04:56] <digitalslacker> so far it seems to be working as I hoped
[04:57] <abattoir> scythe: i think model names are more complicated than that...
[04:58] <abattoir> but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/SonyVGN-FE11H
[04:58] <abattoir> one tester says it works
[04:58] <scythe> abatoir, its a vgn-t250
[04:59] <dr_willis_> scythe,  my old Vaio-Gr390 worked.. but its old. :P not tried a newer sony. My Compaq - i cant tet any of the memory-stick slots working.
[05:00] <scythe> yeah, this one is odd... i think it is connected throught the pcmcia bus
[05:01] <scythe> heard that someone got it working by throwing scsi commands at it, but that is above my skill
[05:02] <scythe> every time i find a howto get it to work, it doesnt work
[05:02] <ken> actinic, i have the network set up, and i can browse through the file system of my client, i was wondering if there was a way to gain complete control over my client
[05:03] <ken> like view the desktop, i guess
[05:03] <scythe> ken, have you tried a vpn server / client setup?
[05:03] <dr_willis_> ken,  vnc is handy also for such tasks
[05:03] <scythe> vnc, not vpn, ignore my last post :)
[05:04] <ken> no, i haven't tried vnc
[05:04] <dr_willis_> if its a linux to linux box - that freenx is niceer i hear.. but i use vnc for all sorts of neat things
[05:04] <scythe> and if its a windows box you are trying to control, terminal server
[05:04] <ken> they both run dapper
[05:04] <dr_willis_> you can start a remote x 'session' on  say alt-ctrl-f8 if ya set things up right also. :P
[05:04] <ken> should i be able to find a guide to vnc?
[05:05] <dr_willis_> dozen ways to do it.
[05:05] <dr_willis_> depends ion exactly what you need the thing to do.
[05:05] <dr_willis_> vnc is rather trivial in its basic ussage.
[05:06] <ken> i'm not going to get real into it, i just want to be able to view my clients desktop on my computer
[05:07] <scythe> most all vnc clients will do that
[05:08] <dr_willis_> ken,  viewing the desktop as THEY also view it - can take a little more setting up.
[05:08] <dr_willis_> gnome has that feature, not sure if kde has it also.
[05:09] <dr_willis_> but i find that way of doing vnc - slows down the system a lot more then if you just 'ssh in' and start a new vnc session (thats hidden)
[05:09] <scythe> it does, but I am not looking at a linux desktop right now
[05:09] <dr_willis_> windows vnc - shares the existing desktiop. thats the only way it can do it. :)
[05:10] <ken> so it is possible?
[05:11] <dr_willis_> depends on what they are running.
[05:11] <dr_willis_> windows - vnc can do it - trivially.
[05:11] <ken> but dapper can not?
[05:11] <dr_willis_> linux - vnc can do it.. or freenx.
[05:11] <dr_willis_> gnome - has such a feature built in.
[05:12] <ken> i'm running gnome
[05:12] <dr_willis_> gnome has a built in vnc server/client thang.
[05:12] <dr_willis_> that makes it rather trivial (but slow from what ive seen)
[05:13] <ken> so how do i access the vnc thing, in gnome?
[05:14] <ken> nevermind, figured it out
[05:14] <ken> thanks a lot
[05:14] <dr_willis_> when in doubt read the fine gnome manuals. :)
[05:15] <dr_willis_> the kde default viewer client is called.. krdc or some similer hard to rember name., :)
[05:15] <dr_willis_> seems people like to change what they call 'vnc' when its really vnc. :) sounds nicer to call it kde-remote-desktop or somthing I guess
[05:18] <actinic> so i drag my UT script file to the desktop
[05:18] <actinic> where's the ut icon?
[05:19] <actinic> all it shows is kind of like a txt file
[05:19] <actinic> no 'U' icon
[05:19] <actinic> i right click on properties and point it to the proper png file
[05:19] <actinic> no go
[05:20] <dr_willis_> a script file is a text file aint it. :P
[05:20] <actinic> yes, but it's executable
[05:20] <scythe> chmod the file then
[05:21] <actinic> why, isn't it already chmoded by virtue i can click ... it executes
[05:21] <actinic> ?
[05:21] <actinic> and the properties say it's executable
[05:21] <dr_willis_> why would you expect it to have  a UT icon? if its just a script..
[05:21] <scythe> oh, I thought you meant that it wasnt when you said but its exc...
[05:21] <actinic> because that's how other distros do it
[05:22] <actinic> and ... there's a bug in Kubuntu
[05:22] <dr_willis_> I cant recall ever seeing it.
[05:22] <scythe> welcome to debian(ish) jk
[05:22] <Hobbsee> actinic: there are many bugs.  which one is this?
[05:22] <dr_willis_> what makes it different from any other script?
[05:22] <actinic> can't get rid of automatic preview
[05:22] <actinic> this seems to impede display of custom icons on the desktop
[05:22] <actinic> it's been recreated numerous times by other users
[05:23] <actinic> don't believe me?  drag a txt file to the desktop
[05:23] <actinic> try disabling automatic preview
[05:23] <dr_willis_> personally i dont put ANY icons on the desktop. :)
[05:23] <scythe> could you put a small png on your desktop and link it to the script?
[05:23] <actinic> well there's a solution
[05:23] <scythe> or other way round
[05:23] <actinic> lol
[05:24] <dr_willis_> or not worry about trivial things like icons. :P
[05:24] <scythe> hehe
[05:24] <actinic> just don't put icons on the desktop, regardless of how inconveient that may be
[05:24] <actinic> if there's a bug, steer around it
[05:24] <dr_willis_> i fond icons on the desktop to be the sign of a cluttered mind. :P
[05:24] <actinic> or a bugged distro :)
[05:24] <scythe> anyone know of a way to make kicker act like mac osx dock?
[05:25] <actinic> in this case Kubuntu
[05:26] <actinic> Hobbsee, what are some of the critical bugs you can link me to?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> actinic: critical bugs?  hmmm...
[05:26] <Hobbsee> !bug
[05:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <Hobbsee> set the status for critical, and hit search
[05:26] <actinic> how 'bout K ubuntu?
[05:27] <actinic> or the same thing?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> actinic: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+packagebugs list most kubuntu bugs, but the same thing
[05:27] <actinic> or is there a KDE bug report method
[05:27] <Hobbsee> no, it's at the same place as ubuntus
[05:27] <actinic> it's hard to know whether it's distro or KDE related
[05:28] <Hobbsee> actinic: could be either, i'm not sure.  bugs.kde.org is KDE place for bus
[05:28] <Hobbsee> *bugs
[05:28] <Hobbsee> file it there - see if they tell you if it's a kde related problem
[05:29] <OOD> scythe: yes it's possible, but the app is alled kxdocker
[05:29] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[05:29] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[05:29] <abattoir> scythe: ^^^^
[05:30] <actinic> i'll show you a screenshot in a moment
[05:30] <dr_willis_> innovative?
[05:31] <scythe> looking it up now
[05:31] <actinic> ftp://oberon.gotdns.com/mist4.jpg  <--- lovely, isn't it?
[05:32] <bob1973> anyone use kubuntu on a tablet pc? with the pen?
[05:33] <OOD> actinic: uh, what about it?
[05:33] <actinic> no UT icon
[05:33] <actinic> you know, the "u"
[05:33] <OOD> thougt it was a regular txt file :P
[05:33] <Desh> Using wlassistant is basically like wusing iwconfig in the terminal, right? Except in this case wlassistant takes what you enters and does the appropriate iwconfig commands intself?
[05:33] <bob1973> I have a new gateway tablet and everything works great except I can't seem to find out how to make the pen work ?
[05:33] <actinic> it's executable
[05:34] <actinic> you should be able to assign ANY icon
[05:34] <OOD> you tried, and you can't ?
[05:35] <actinic> many times
[05:35] <actinic> try it yourself
[05:35] <actinic> drag a *.txt file to the desktop
[05:35] <actinic> try changing the icon to kate, kwrite, whatever ...
[05:35] <actinic> you'll find you can't either
[05:36] <OOD> i don't think this is a bug
[05:36] <actinic> oh?
[05:36] <actinic> it works in other distros just fine
[05:36] <OOD> with kde?
[05:36] <actinic> yes
[05:36] <actinic> kanotix, pclinuxos, ...
[05:37] <actinic> what gives you the impression it isn't a bug?
[05:37] <actinic> you've had similar dealings?
[05:37] <actinic> success in assigning icons?
[05:37] <actinic> trial & error?
[05:37] <OOD> since you can make a shortcut to the text file and give that an app
[05:37] <actinic> ry it
[05:37] <OOD> give that an icon*
[05:37] <actinic> err try it
[05:37] <actinic> yourself
[05:38] <actinic> report back
[05:38] <scythe> kxdocker looks slick, downloading it now :)
[05:38] <OOD> actinic: k i got an icon
[05:38] <actinic> steps please
[05:39] <scythe> thankx for the tip
[05:39] <actinic> thanks
[05:39] <amundsen> hi
[05:39] <OOD> right click desktop, click: link to application
[05:39] <OOD> then link the script, and give it an icon by right clicking it and clicking the box
[05:40] <fazex> hi guys
[05:40] <fazex> Is this a good place to ask about a driver install problem?
[05:40] <actinic> how do you link to script?
[05:40] <OOD> eh, i take it that the ut2004 it a script that launches the game
[05:41] <actinic> correct
[05:41] <amundsen> i'm having a problem with the latest versions of KDE. I remember that in older version, there was an "icon zooming" option in for the desktop panel, but with tha actual "mouserover effect" it desappeared
[05:41] <amundsen> does anyone know something about this ?
[05:41] <fazex> Can someone help with a video driver question? When I install a new NVIDIA kernel and start my xserver it works perfectly but when i reboot it tells me that my NVIDIA kernel version does not match my X server version. How do I tell it to use my new NVIDIA kernel and not the old one?
[05:41] <OOD> actinic: right click desktop, select link to application, go to the third tab, and browse for the script and select it
[05:42] <actinic> go it
[05:42] <actinic> err got it!
[05:42] <actinic> looks like you can't simply drag & drop
[05:42] <amundsen> can anyone help me ?
[05:42] <amundsen> please
[05:42] <actinic> thanks man
[05:42] <OOD> actinic: no problem
[05:43] <OOD> amundsen: you want to have bigger icons on the desktop?
[05:43] <dr_willis_> just make a panel for ya launchers :)
[05:45] <dominatrix> ok, i just created a FAT32 Partition so i can transfer files from linux to windows, and every time i click on it that it "could not mount on device" and "cant find in /etc/fstab/ or etc/mtab/" any ideas?
[05:45] <fazex> So any run into this problem?
[05:45] <dr_willis_> make a correct fstab entry for it
[05:45] <OOD> fazex: you're not installing an nvidia kernel, you're installing a kernel module, i take it you downloaded the driver from the nvida site right?
[05:45] <dr_willis_> !vfat
[05:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:46] <dominatrix> dr_willis: thanks
[05:46] <amundsen> OOD: i want the panel icons become bigger just when the mouse cursor stays over them
[05:46] <fazex> yes
[05:46] <dr_willis_> i just use that tool that lets windows read/write Ext2/3 filesystems. and keep my data on linux drives
[05:47] <OOD> fazex: the problem is, the default kernel module with the nvidia driver doesn't match your kernel
[05:48] <OOD> fazex: you can either compile it to match your kernel, or get it from the repository like this:
[05:48] <OOD> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:48] <OOD> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:48] <dr_willis_> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <OOD> i'm done explaining, that's all there is too it :P
[05:50] <amundsen> OOD:  i want the panel icons become bigger just when the mouse cursor stays over them
[05:50] <devlin-> What difference would it make changing from the i386 kernel to the i686?
[05:51] <dr_willis_> i recall that effect... hated it. :)
[05:51] <whizz-> what can i use to join split files like the ones found on usenet?
[05:52] <OOD> amundsen: hmm. i'm don't know anything about that, sorry
[05:53] <ilda> will dpkg willingly downgrade packages with just the -i switch?
[05:54] <dejot> hi
[05:54] <dejot> can anyone tell me where the konquerer saves the cookies?
[05:55] <ilda> i have this cd with saved packages, some of which were in the new install,   i did dpkg -i *.deb   and it is saying 'warning downgrading debconf' amongst others...  ?
[05:57] <dive-o> total newbie question on the way: what's the preferred way of convincing kubuntu to run at a higher resolution? it seems to think the max this setup can handle is 1024x768, which isn't accurate, and I'm not sure where to change that (I come from a mainly BSD background, so I'm used to just editing XF86Config...)
[05:58] <dr_willis_> you can edit the xorg.conf
[05:58] <dr_willis_> but what dio ya need to edit it to be?
[05:58] <dive-o> 1280x1024 is what I'm used to
[05:59] <dr_willis_> Hmm - odd that id dident get that res right.
[05:59] <dr_willis_> could rerun the X configuration tool.
[05:59] <dr_willis_> !fixres
[05:59] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <dive-o> devlin: did that, it maxes at 1024x768.
[06:00] <dr_willis_> it may be it thinks the monitor can only handle that.
[06:00] <devlin-> well I did preface it with I'm a newbie lol
[06:00] <dive-o> dunno, Xorg under other OS's will run just fine at 1280x1024
[06:00] <dr_willis_> if using ati or nvidia cards. install the proper drivers for the card. then try to recongiorue
[06:00] <dr_willis_> ya could always check out the other x configs and try them.
[06:01] <dr_willis_> they should be mostly compatiable.
[06:01] <dive-o> good point... need to find an amd64 driver for a geforce 7800GT
[06:01] <actinic> OOD, the nvidia binary howto says *not* to install nvidia-xconfig
[06:01] <dive-o> are we talking the drivers straight from the vendor, or something else?
[06:02] <devlin-> I've got a weird video prob too... apparently something tells my login screen I have a much bigger display than I really do, but once KDE loads its fine...
[06:02] <OOD> !nvidia
[06:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:02] <actinic> quote: " DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."
[06:02] <dr_willis_> kde can have settings on a per user basis as to what res to use.
[06:02] <OOD> actinic: it's not a package
[06:02] <dr_willis_> changes it on the fly.
[06:03] <dr_willis_> odd that X is getting it wrong however.
[06:03] <devlin-> its a pain because often I have to scroll around to find the login box..
[06:03] <actinic> "If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig. DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."
[06:04] <OOD> sudo nvidia-xconfig doesn't install that package, it sets xorg.conf to use the nv driver
[06:04] <actinic> kind of confusing
[06:04] <dejot> nobody knows where the konqueror cookies are located?
[06:04] <dive-o> hmm
[06:04] <dr_willis_> better off to do a clean install. :P
[06:04] <dr_willis_> dejot,  i would guess in the .kde/share/apps or similer dir.
[06:05] <dive-o> looks like I don't even have synaptic
[06:05] <OOD> actinic: sudo nvidia-xconfig and sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig are 2 different things
[06:05] <dr_willis_> Kubuntu has its own variant.
[06:05] <dejot> dr_willis_: can be, thanks
[06:05] <actinic> i wish the howto was more clear on this
[06:05] <dive-o> dr_willis: the add/remove programs thing, I assume?
[06:05] <actinic> thanks
[06:06] <dr_willis_>  installing the nvidia drivers is about a 3 line cut/paste fromn the howto job. :P
[06:06] <OOD> actinic: it's the same thing as sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, i remember the other line better :)
[06:06] <actinic> :)
[06:07] <actinic> lol, then just show 3 lines to cut & paste
[06:07] <actinic> and forget the rest
[06:08] <OOD> it's 2, and i did
[06:08] <bob1973> how can I make my tablet pen work in kubuntu?
[06:08] <dive-o> dr_willis: aye, you're correct, I didn't read down far enough. Sorry.
[06:09] <actinic> if you're going to compile, if you're running, if you've got the right version ...
[06:09] <actinic> it's those 'if's' which always getcha :)
[06:09] <dive-o> hmm, nvidia-glx-config enable errors out saying my config has been changed
[06:10] <dive-o> guess I need to find the original and diff it
[06:10] <actinic> so what's your glxgears -printfps showing?
[06:10] <dr_willis_><PHONE_NUMBER>000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.5 fps :)
[06:11] <dive-o> haven't restarted X, but I'll give it a shot
[06:11] <dive-o> dive@ender:/etc/X11$ glxgears -printfps
[06:11] <dive-o> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:11] <actinic> wow, and you still suck in games!
[06:11] <dr_willis_> cover up the glxgears window  with another window and watch the FPS go way up! :)
[06:11] <actinic> :)
[06:11] <actinic> about 7500 fps here
[06:11] <actinic> 6600GT
[06:12] <actinic> pci-e
[06:12] <actinic> opteron 146 @ 2.7 ghz
[06:12] <devlin-> Ubuntu/Kubuntu by default installs with the i386 version of the linux kernel, I have a 1.7Ghz Celeron would I see any performance improvement switching my kernel to the i686 one?
[06:12] <dive-o> 7800GT pci-e here, 4200x2 @ 2.2ghz per core
[06:13] <actinic> nice system there dive-o ... why are u running linux, lol
[06:13] <bob1973> does anyone have experience with a tablet pc in kubuntu ? i could use some help
[06:13] <actinic> that's a gaming system
[06:13] <Eeyore> ! dvd
[06:13] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:13] <dive-o> actinic: because while gaming is great on this box, I just can't stand windows as an all-purpose OS.
[06:13] <unix_infidel> bob1973: linux isnt ready for the tablet pc....
[06:13] <Eeyore> ! mp3
[06:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <Eeyore> ! movie
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about movie - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <dr_willis_> unix_infidel,  that Nokia 770 is a tablet that runs linux. :)
[06:14] <Eeyore> ! win32
[06:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <dive-o> actinic: FreeBSD has a weird bug with my gigabit chipset that hangs large transfers after a while, and NetBSD is just plain funky on this machine
[06:14] <unix_infidel> dr_willis_: anyone can make proprietary hardware and make custom drivers for it with the money.
[06:14] <lucas> which is the command to install sun-java5-jdk package? apt-get what else?
[06:14] <actinic> dive-o, understandable
[06:14] <unix_infidel> dr_willis_: also, it has none of the features which make a tablet pc worth buying, that's a tablet, not a tablet pc.
[06:15] <actinic> just today my win box almost got hosed going to a 'jacked' website
[06:15] <actinic> know what is was?  http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com
[06:15] <dive-o> any hints on where to look to figure out what changed in my xorg config that's annoying nvidia-glx-config?
[06:15] <actinic> i'm sure we'll hear more about it tomorrow
[06:15] <lucas> dive-o: what card?
[06:15] <dive-o> lucas: pci-e 7800GT
[06:16] <lucas> dive-o: excelent
[06:16] <lucas> dive-o: give me a min
[06:16] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a 3rd party repo where i can download postgresql-8.1 debs for ubuntu?
[06:17] <actinic> temp3:     +35.5C  (high =   +65C, hyst =   +60C)   sensor = thermistor
[06:17] <unix_infidel> this is just for testing purposes so i'd much rathe rnot compile.
[06:17] <lucas> dive-o: go to ` Section "Device"
[06:17] <lucas> dive-o: tell me when there
[06:17] <dive-o> Section "Device" A specifically?
[06:17] <Eeyore> ! xine
[06:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <actinic> !lmsensors
[06:18] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[06:18] <martynda> hi, how do i pick a previous version of the kernel to boot to? currently have 2.6.15-26, need to boot to 15-25
[06:18] <Eeyore> ! w32codecs
[06:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> what about xine?
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> !xine
[06:18] <dive-o> I've got the normal Device section, but not one with an A tag
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <aegeanlinux_> lol, i see
[06:18] <lucas> dive-o: thats ok
[06:18] <lucas> dive-o: what do u have in there?
[06:18] <dive-o> lucas: want me to paste in msg so as not to spam the channel?
[06:19] <dive-o> it's only three lines, but hey :)
[06:19] <lucas> im not registered
[06:19] <lucas> can u wait a min?
[06:19] <lucas> ill be back
[06:19] <dive-o> sure
[06:19] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find postgresql 8.1 debs for debian / ubuntu?
[06:21] <luc45> dive-o im back
[06:22] <luc45> dive-o: now u can pvt-msg me
[06:22] <dive-o> whoops, I'm not registered either.
[06:23] <luc45> dive-o lolol
[06:23] <dive-o> didn't know privmsg was restricted on freenode, when did that happen?
[06:23] <dive-o> lemme login to my mailserver
[06:23] <easynintendo> hey is anyone here familiar with amarok?
[06:23] <Hawkwind> dive-o: Many months ago
[06:23] <luc45> dive-o: use /msg nickserv register <passworg>
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:23] <easynintendo> is there a way to setup amarok to always be in repeat playlist mode?
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> I use amarok all the time
[06:23] <aegeanlinux_> listening to music now
[06:23] <easynintendo> because every time i run it or change playlists i have to manually change it
[06:24] <easynintendo> as it is now
[06:24] <luc45> dive-o: then /msg nickserv identify <same passwort>
[06:24] <easynintendo> yes i know thats normal but i want to change it
[06:24] <easynintendo> is it possible?
[06:24] <aegeanlinux_> so, you want to change it to do ...
[06:25] <easynintendo> i want amarok to always no matter whether i reload it or load a different playlist to stay in repeat all mode
[06:25] <easynintendo> basically to loop whatever playlist ive got loaded over and over until i change it
[06:25] <easynintendo> i have to manually choose repeat> playlist now
[06:26] <dive-o> amarok didn't want to play a stream I was trying to listen to :(
[06:26] <aegeanlinux_> Thats the only way to change ... Look in options
[06:26] <easynintendo> dive-o what sort of stream?
[06:26] <sotired> hello
[06:27] <OOD> hey
[06:27] <Whil> hiya
[06:27] <sotired> im having this damn problem with ./configure
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: what type of strean
[06:27] <Smonkey> And that problem would be?
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> sotired: what's your problem?
[06:27] <aegeanlinux_> Smonkey: lols
[06:28] <dive-o> aegeanlinux: www.jungletrain.net's 64k stream
[06:28] <dive-o> shoutcast
[06:28] <easynintendo> dive-o, try VLC media player
[06:28] <easynintendo> it handles shoutcast streams VERY well
[06:28] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: I shall try it here
[06:28] <easynintendo> at least in windows it does
[06:29] <Whil> any advice on what to use for windows media streams?
[06:29] <easynintendo> no clue in linux
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> works fine here
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> http://stream1.jungletrain.net:8000/listen.pls
[06:29] <easynintendo> if you have the win32 codecs VLC can play windows media streams
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> Yes, helix engine
[06:29] <easynintendo> but im not sure how well
[06:29] <doppelganger_> sup ;P
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> with amarok
[06:29] <Eeyore> w32
[06:29] <Eeyore> !s32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about s32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <Eeyore> ! w32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: http://stream1.jungletrain.net:8000/listen.pls
[06:29] <easynintendo> !win32
[06:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32 - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <Eeyore> ! win32
[06:29] <Whil> I do but I'm having a heck of a time getting them to play. says no picture
[06:29] <aegeanlinux_> !windows
[06:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[06:30] <doppelganger_> i'm gonna try and install a them real quick aegean, just for fucks sake
[06:30] <easynintendo> LOL
[06:30] <doppelganger_> lol, brb
[06:30] <Eeyore> ! win32codecs
[06:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <sotired> sorry had to disconnect
[06:30] <Eeyore> ! restricted formats
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Hawkwind> !language
[06:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <Hawkwind> doppelganger_: ^^^^^^^^^^
[06:30] <aegeanlinux_> doppelganger_: install what???
[06:30] <sotired> ill pastebin my ./configure issue
[06:30] <aegeanlinux_> thanks sotired
[06:30] <dive-o> amarok says it's playing, but I'm not hearing anything. the default KDE crap from arts sounds fine
[06:31] <aegeanlinux_> I am listening to it now
[06:31] <doppelganger_> what? i'm not sure what yet, haha
[06:31] <doppelganger_> just something spiffy
[06:32] <doppelganger_> pick me out something badass ;p
[06:32] <easynintendo> aegean
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> dive-o: what engine are you using
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: yes
[06:32] <sotired> i get this when installing KXdocker http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17884
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> thanks sotired
[06:32] <doppelganger_> nvm, i'll just go explore ;P
[06:32] <easynintendo> any idea how long itll take amarok to catalog 119 gigs of MP3s into its collection?
[06:32] <dr_willis_> !info kxdocker
[06:32] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> yes, about 30 mins
[06:32] <sotired> aegeanlinux: No.... thank YOU!
[06:32] <aegeanlinux_> mught be longer if its an old amarok
[06:33] <easynintendo> you do realise i said 119 gigs not megs
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> install qt-dev
[06:33] <easynintendo> 119 thousand megs
[06:33] <easynintendo> lol
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> I know I know easynintendo
[06:33] <easynintendo> lol ok just checking
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> sotired: install qt-dev
[06:33] <easynintendo> would take winamp a good 8 hours
[06:33] <easynintendo> to catalog it into its library
[06:33] <easynintendo> believe me ive tried
[06:33] <aegeanlinux_> and libjpeg-dev
[06:33] <sotired> ive tried that
[06:34] <sotired> it tells me something about broken packages
[06:34] <dr_willis_> 119gb of music... of which you like 9 songs..
[06:34] <dr_willis_> :P
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> Got no idea then
[06:34] <easynintendo> aegean my amarok is 1.4.1-beta1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> whats it say about broken packages?
[06:34] <easynintendo> how old is it?
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> update you amarok to 1.4.1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> not the beta
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> that uses inotify
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> so if you update one file it will rescan your whole collection
[06:34] <Smonkey> easynintendo: It's not the size of the files that is going to matter, but how many their are.
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> real buggy
[06:34] <easynintendo> 1.4.1 isnt in the repositories for my distro yet
[06:34] <easynintendo> i use suse 10.1
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> abd 1.4.1 is nicer
[06:34] <aegeanlinux_> *and
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> dang
[06:35] <easynintendo> 1.4.1-beta1 is the latest
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> is it ??
[06:35] <easynintendo> in 10.1 yes
[06:35] <OOD> why are you in the kubuntu channel? lol
[06:35] <easynintendo> because the suse channel is full of morons
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> I use aegean OOD
[06:35] <easynintendo> who expect me to be an expert at the commandline
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> amarok is 1.4.1
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> beta finished i think
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> Amarok 'Fast Forward' 1.4.1
[06:35] <aegeanlinux_> thats the homepage
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> Amarok "Fast Forward" 1.4.1-beta1 On The Road  is bellow that
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> http://amarok.kde.org/
[06:36] <easynintendo> the build date on my amarok is june 19th 2006
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_>  Tue Jul 11 05:33:25 2006 UTC
[06:36] <vaka> i have amarok 1.4.1
[06:36] <OOD> easynintendo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> 1.4.1 is newer
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> trust me
[06:36] <aegeanlinux_> it is
[06:37] <aegeanlinux_> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amarok <--- look at the date of the source packages
[06:37] <easynintendo> i understand that it may be newer
[06:37] <easynintendo> but it isnt yet in the repos
[06:37] <Search4Lancer> are there any programs I could use to recover deleted files?
[06:37] <easynintendo> for my distro
[06:37] <OOD> easynintendo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[06:37] <OOD> posted it again :P
[06:37] <easynintendo> OOD i am not an expert by any means
[06:37] <easynintendo> id just as soon not try to manually install something
[06:37] <OOD> just download the rpm and install it
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> Search4Lancer: not for ext3
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Install an rpm ?
[06:38] <Search4Lancer> bummer
[06:38] <vaka> amarok 1.4.1 has a bug with the dinamic playlists
[06:38] <sotired> what does it mean if it says break in red next to a package in adept?
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> Hawkwind: do you use deb
[06:38] <Desh> Why would I get this when I run glxgears: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:38] <Hawkwind> Hopefully he's not installing rpms on Ubuntu
[06:38] <aegeanlinux_> vaka: who cares, it works
[06:38] <OOD> Hawkwind: no he's on Suse
[06:39] <easynintendo> i can install a deb in suse though
[06:39] <easynintendo> alien is awesome lol
[06:39] <easynintendo> i used it to install my frostwire
[06:39] <vaka> the columns in the playlist are mixed
[06:39] <OOD> yea alien is great :D
[06:39] <aegeanlinux_> I think you should use AegeanLinux (shameless plug) www.aegeanlinux.be
[06:39] <easynintendo> lol wtf?
[06:39] <easynintendo> you program aegean?
[06:40] <Eeyore> Search4Lancer: what happened ?
[06:40] <aegeanlinux_> compile
[06:40] <easynintendo> perhaps you could figure out my problem installing cedega 5.2.1
[06:40] <aegeanlinux_> sure
[06:40] <easynintendo> it cant find /bin/sh , so it wont install
[06:40] <easynintendo> which is odd considering bash is part of every base system on any distro
[06:41] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: deleted some downloaded photos and an archive file earlier today... now wishing I hadn't :-P Trying a jpeg recovery package right now...
[06:41] <easynintendo> could me being on x86_64 affect that?
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> I agree
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> maybe
[06:41] <easynintendo> its an i386 rpm
[06:41] <easynintendo> there are no x64 builds of it
[06:41] <easynintendo> and i lack the source code
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> cedega is a comercial app
[06:41] <aegeanlinux_> like microsoft windows
[06:41] <easynintendo> yes i know
[06:41] <OOD> you can use an x86 version can't you?
[06:42] <Eeyore> windows or linux Search4Lancer
[06:42] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:42] <easynintendo> yes but it wants /bin/sh when i try to install it
[06:42] <easynintendo> which is bash
[06:42] <easynintendo> it cant find it
[06:42] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: what channel is this again? ;-)
[06:42] <aegeanlinux_> have you tried running it as root (GASP)
[06:42] <easynintendo> lol
[06:42] <easynintendo> im not that new to linux
[06:42] <easynintendo> su is your friend =P
[06:42] <easynintendo> or sudo in kubuntu
[06:42] <easynintendo> as it were
[06:42] <Eeyore> Search4Lancer: http://www.porcupine.org/forensics/tct.html
[06:43] <aegeanlinux_> but have you tried it
[06:43] <easynintendo> lol
[06:43] <easynintendo> yes
[06:43] <Search4Lancer> Eeyore: thanks - however, I never seem to be able to compile programs from their source code
[06:44] <aegeanlinux_> Search4Lancer: I'll be here to help if you need it
[06:45] <easynintendo> aegean, is there a way to recompile flash to be x64 compatible? or is there no source for it?
[06:45] <easynintendo> i mean i got it working in suse fine because its in the repositories
[06:45] <easynintendo> suse installs an i586 build of firefox, so flash works in it
[06:46] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Sure. Just grab the source
[06:46] <aegeanlinux_> no
[06:46] <easynintendo> flash isnt opensource
[06:46] <aegeanlinux_> have to wait till the end of the year
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> flash is comming out with 64bit version soon
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> end of year
[06:47] <easynintendo> cool
[06:47] <easynintendo> does VMware work in x64 distros?
[06:47] <aegeanlinux_> yes it does
[06:47] <easynintendo> is that a preferable alternative to wine for getting windows apps that arent games working?
[06:48] <easynintendo> wine doesnt like any of my programs lol
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> yes, it is called crossover office
[06:48] <OOD> vmware isn't for gaming
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> they are the people who gave wine to the public
[06:48] <easynintendo> OOD perhaps you need to read what i said again
[06:48] <aegeanlinux_> you can get a free copy if you help them get a program to work in it
[06:48] <easynintendo> a free copy of what?
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> crossover office pro
[06:49] <easynintendo> oh
[06:49] <easynintendo> is it better than wine?
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> it runs office 2003 (mostly)
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> all except access
[06:49] <aegeanlinux_> and visio
[06:49] <easynintendo> will it allow an install of internet explorer 5.5 or newer so that yahoo messenger will work?
[06:49] <easynintendo> wine doesnt
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> yes
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> it even has a wizard for installing explorer 6 & 5.5
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> and windows media player
[06:50] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Why do you want Yahoo messenger?
[06:50] <easynintendo> can i get a link>?
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> there is a script for wine to install ie
[06:50] <aegeanlinux_> http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:50] <Hawkwind> ymessenger is yahoo messenger for Linux anyways.
[06:50] <easynintendo> because theres no chatroom/file transfer/webcam capable yahoo client for linux that also supports voice
[06:51] <easynintendo> no it is pager
[06:51] <easynintendo> buddy list only
[06:51] <Hawkwind> Gaim does it all.  You should use it
[06:51] <easynintendo> gaim doesnt support yahoo 7.x file transfers or yahoo webcams at all
[06:51] <easynintendo> nor voice
[06:51] <johnsandman> is there a programm two compare two pics together for one pic ??
[06:51] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Gaim 2.0 ?
[06:51] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:51] <OOD> webcam support won't work in wine
[06:51] <easynintendo> gaim 2.0 is buggy and beta
[06:51] <kakalto> If I were to copy all of a kubuntu install to another hard drive and stick it into another computer, how would kubuntu handle it?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: I disagree
[06:52] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: Gaim 2.0 has worked perfectly here for months
[06:52] <easynintendo> and it fully supports yahoo 7.x file transfers, yahoo voice, voice in chatrooms and all of those other functions?
[06:53] <Desh> Question, what does this mean in my Xorg.0.log file:
[06:53] <Desh> II) Loading sub module "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[06:53] <Desh> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[06:53] <easynintendo> cause thats not what the gaim website says
[06:53] <easynintendo> ;)
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: you need to become an Advocate of a windows program
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> easynintendo: then you get a free pro copy
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> saves you $6y0
[06:53] <Hawkwind> easynintendo: It doesn't support webcam stuff yet, but it will very soon
[06:53] <aegeanlinux_> saves you $60
[06:53] <easynintendo> an advocate?
[06:54] <easynintendo> you mean dick with the program and make something run that didnt run before?
[06:54] <easynintendo> does ANY exe count?
[06:54] <easynintendo> or just major apps?
[06:54] <aegeanlinux_> just find a program you want to advocate
[06:54] <easynintendo> oh, is this crossover office an rpm installer?
[06:56] <easynintendo> its a .sh
[06:56] <easynintendo> so i do sh ./name.sh?
[06:56] <easynintendo> as root?
[06:56] <aegeanlinux_> you can get rpm deb or sh
[06:56] <easynintendo> there is only a link for the sh
[06:56] <aegeanlinux_> just ./*.sh as normal user
[06:56] <easynintendo> on the site
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> are you an advocate?
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> 'case it dont look like you have pro
[06:57] <aegeanlinux_> more of a demo
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: !! Hi
[06:58] <easynintendo> heh ill just grab a torrent for pro cause im not about to spend all that time messing around lol
[06:58] <easynintendo> torrent is my friend
[06:58] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[06:58] <aegeanlinux_> I can get you a link of pro
[06:58] <easynintendo> but pro is time limited
[06:58] <easynintendo> isnt it?
[06:59] <aegeanlinux_> no, thats the demo
[06:59] <easynintendo> oh
[07:00] <easynintendo> is your link of 5.0.3?
[07:00] <easynintendo> cause i found a torrent of 5.0
[07:00] <easynintendo> thats almost done downloading
[07:00] <aegeanlinux_> thats install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh
[07:01] <OOD> warez monkeys -,-
[07:01] <easynintendo> lol OOD linux is freeee
[07:01] <easynintendo> why not get all my shit for it freeeeee too? =P
[07:02] <OOD> crossoveroffice isnt
[07:02] <easynintendo> lol
[07:02] <easynintendo> so?
[07:02] <OOD> ..nevermind
[07:02] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: I think that is a good enough reason
[07:02] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Please take this conversation to offtpic
[07:02] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:02] <easynintendo> its already been taken out of the room skreech
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Cool
[07:03] <easynintendo> are you an op or something?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> No
[07:03] <easynintendo> oh
[07:04] <DaSkreech> However illegal activities are not to be discussed here
[07:04] <DaSkreech> It's in the Code of Conduct
[07:04] <easynintendo> actually hes not sending me anything that i couldnt get for free legally
[07:04] <easynintendo> advocate a program and get the program free
[07:04] <easynintendo> no catch
[07:04] <easynintendo> apparently
[07:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:04] <easynintendo> so then im fine either way =P
[07:05] <DaSkreech> well in any case this is a support channel
[07:05] <easynintendo> and i was getting support on getting yahoo to work in linux
[07:05] <easynintendo> ;)
[07:05] <DaSkreech> So lots of talking about subjects that are offtopic mask people asking for help
[07:05] <DaSkreech> That's fine
[07:05] <easynintendo> but wait
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Everytime I looked here I saw torrent and pro
[07:05] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:05] <easynintendo> people actually need help in kubuntu? its got an idiot-proof installer and seems to do nearly everything for you
[07:06] <easynintendo> ??
[07:06] <OOD> easynintendo: you're kidding right?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> easynintendo: Come here three times a week :)
[07:06] <easynintendo> OOD wanna know the meaning of problems? try doing a stage1 gentoo install
[07:06] <DaSkreech> you'll get asked about !mp3 like 4 times an hour
[07:06] <easynintendo> makes suse and kubuntu seem like winblowz
[07:06] <easynintendo> in terms of ease
[07:07] <OOD> easynintendo: that's not what i meant
[07:07] <OOD> people come here migrating from windows
[07:07] <easynintendo> oh
[07:07] <OOD> not knowing what a terminal is
[07:07] <OOD> kubuntu still isn't all mouse button pressing
[07:07] <dive-o> what all do I need to install to play dvds under kubuntu? (and general video files, for that matter)
[07:07] <DaSkreech> hi raphink
[07:07] <easynintendo> lol
[07:08] <easynintendo> my bad
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !DVD
[07:08] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:08] <raphink> hi DaSkreech
[07:09] <_acesuares> dive-o: you might want to goolge easybuntu
[07:09] <_acesuares> !easybuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about easybuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <easynintendo> !easy ubuntu
[07:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about easy ubuntu - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <easynintendo> !windows
[07:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:10] <easynintendo> lol
[07:10] <OOD> lol
[07:11] <DaSkreech> I take it everyone knows bug one?
[07:11] <abattoir> !dpkg
[07:11] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[07:12] <aegeanlinux_> !pacman
[07:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about pacman - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <aegeanlinux_> !aegeanlinux
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about aegeanlinux - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <aegeanlinux_> !suse
[07:13] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[07:13] <easynintendo> !slax
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about slax - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <easynintendo> !slackware
[07:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about slackware - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:13] <easynintendo> lol
[07:13] <nixternal> ease on the spam please
[07:13] <easynintendo> my bad sorry
[07:16] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[07:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:17] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:17] <drgonzo> hello
[07:18] <eniac_petrov> lo
[07:18] <drgonzo> Is there any package in kubuntu that has all the ooo templates?
[07:18] <blake_> heya
[07:18] <blake_> Anyone know of a good theme package?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> drgonzo: I don't think so
[07:19] <drgonzo> ok thanks
[07:19] <Hobbsee> blake_: see kdelook.org
[07:19] <blake_> thanks :D
[07:19] <abattoir> kde-look.org
[07:21] <drgonzo> There is a whole slew of office related templates http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template/ Here
[07:21] <drgonzo> might be worth adding with default openoffice install? ( just a suggestion)
[07:22] <DaSkreech> drgonzo: You can package it if you like :)
[07:23] <drgonzo> ok, thanks again :)
[07:23] <dive-o> hmm, no mplayer apt for ubuntu?
[07:23] <dive-o> kmplayer-base is installed, but I'm not seeing it anywhere
[07:23] <abattoir> !info mplayer
[07:23] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[07:23] <abattoir> dive-o: do you have multiverse enabled?
[07:24] <luc45> dive-o: kaffeine is better :)
[07:24] <dive-o> not that I know of; I've been using ubuntu for about 2-3 hours now.
[07:24] <abattoir> !multiverse
[07:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:24] <dive-o> I'm from a BSD background... and kaffeine isn't playing what I'm trying to watch - just the audio, no video.
[07:25] <luc45> dive-o: is it a dvd
[07:25] <luc45> ?
[07:25] <blake_> Hey how do you make your entire window transparent for Crystal?
[07:25] <dive-o> no, though I did just do all the dvd stuff
[07:25] <luc45> what is it?
[07:25] <luc45> may i know? :p
[07:25] <abattoir> dive-o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu has more relevant info
[07:25] <dive-o> dive@ender:/jane/wd3a/video/Firefly$ file Firefly\ -\ 1x08\ -\ Ariel.avi
[07:25] <dive-o> Firefly - 1x08 - Ariel.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 704 x 384, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[07:26] <dive-o> (/jane is a collection of NFS shares)
[07:26] <luc45> !avi
[07:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:26] <luc45> go there. u need to install some libs
[07:26] <blake_> Me?
[07:26] <luc45> no
[07:27] <luc45> dive-o
[07:27] <abattoir> blake_: click on the icon in the windeco (top left corner) ->Configure Window behaviour-> Translucency
[07:27] <blake_> ah sorry
[07:27] <luc45> no prob
[07:27] <blake_> awesome, thank you so much
[07:28] <abattoir> blake_: you migh need to (define &) enable 'Composite' in xorg.conf
[07:28] <abattoir> *might
[07:28] <luc45> dive-o: got it?
[07:29] <dive-o> not yet, I'm guessing I need to enable the multiverse thing first before it can find these
[07:29] <luc45> yes
[07:30] <dive-o> !multiverse
[07:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:30] <abattoir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu specifically
[07:30] <ColonelKernel> so I can just type out a question then?
[07:31] <luc45> just replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with this one: 	http://rapidshare.de/files/25705015/sources.list.html
[07:31] <luc45> (dive-o)
[07:31] <ColonelKernel> I have a problem connecting to my network
[07:31] <sysrpl> if i wanted to see what files were modified in 2005 or 2004 where would be the regular expression for 'dir /usr -l -R|grep -e'(what goes here>"?
[07:32] <luc45> div-o: do as u wish
[07:32] <ColonelKernel> It says Connection Failed after I tried to connect to my network although the net was detected
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> anybody?
[07:33] <ColonelKernel> Wireless card is the Linksys WUSB54G but the card seems to be fine...
[07:34] <Desh> Can someone help me with my fglrx driver? I get this error:
[07:34] <Desh> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOSPC"
[07:34] <Desh> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[07:34] <Desh> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  removed 1 reserved context for kernel
[07:34] <Desh> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0x2000 at 0xb722c000
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> I don't think anybody is helpin us n00bs here
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> sorry lol
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)             *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available                *
[07:34] <Desh> (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* *
[07:34] <Desh> Damn, shoulda used pastebin, sorry
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> can u help me tho?
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> got an easier problem
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> anybody anybody?
[07:35] <Desh> What is your problem?
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> I can't connect to my WLAN
[07:35] <ColonelKernel> get the error Connection Failed
[07:36] <Desh> ndiswrapper?
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> didn't need it
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> Kubuntu recognized it
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> so it detected the networks and stuff
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> but can't connect so far
[07:36] <Desh> Oh, pastebin what you are trying, maybe I can help.
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> dunno how to do that
[07:36] <ColonelKernel> i'm a nub...
[07:36] <luc45> ColonelKernel: rtfm
[07:37] <luc45> ColonelKernel: :p
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> plus i'm not running kubuntu right now
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> cause internet doesn't work
[07:37] <luc45> lolol
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> but seems like a simple error
[07:37] <ColonelKernel> maybe something retarded that I'm doing
[07:37] <luc45> running windoUS$??????
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> omg just cause i can't get online yet in KUBUNTU
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> then windows is OUTTA HERE :DD
[07:38] <luc45> :p
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> so. gonna help me vanquish mr. gates?
[07:38] <jbrouhard> <-- can't get rid of WIndows just yet
[07:38] <jbrouhard> some of my apps still don't work in CXOffice
[07:38] <ColonelKernel> plz guys it's not a big problem I think.
[07:38] <jbrouhard> and I still play games that won't work in Cedega ;(
[07:39] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: is it a WPA network?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> WEP
[07:39] <jbrouhard> What exactly is the error you get, ColonelKernel?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> just Connection Failed
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> thats all
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> like 15 times
[07:39] <jbrouhard> hmm
[07:39] <jbrouhard> wireless ?
[07:39] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: through wlassistant? have you tried knetworkmanager?
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> yes
[07:39] <ColonelKernel> Linksys WUSB54G v4
[07:40] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: both give out similar errors?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> both?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> both what
[07:40] <aegeanlinux> does anyone know a program to mount .cue files without burning them?
[07:40] <abattoir> [11:09:19]  <abattoir> ColonelKernel: through wlassistant? have you tried knetworkmanager?
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> knetwork manager. nope didn't know about it.
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> is it superior or wat
[07:41] <abattoir> sometimes, it handles certain networks better
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> ok I could try that, but before I reboot and do that, any other possible causes?
[07:41] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: you can also try 'iwconfig'
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> i have
[07:42] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: what happens?
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> my card is detected and everything, but I don't know the commands to connect
[07:42] <abattoir> 'sudo iwconfig ethX essid Name key 123'
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> ethx?
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> its a usb adapter
[07:43] <abattoir> replace ethX, w/ iface, essid and key w/ essid and p/w
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> hmm
[07:43] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: yes, what is the name of the interface?
[07:43] <abattoir> wlan0, eth1 ?
[07:43] <ColonelKernel> its rausb0 i think
[07:43] <abattoir> ok, then put that in
[07:43] <abattoir> Name is the name of your network
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> so sudo iwconfig rausb0 Chellgate
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> wait
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ESSID is Network name i thought
[07:44] <abattoir> 123 should be the encryption key
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> oh
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> ok
[07:44] <dive-o> ok, got mplayer working
[07:44] <flaccid> does anybody here use krusader???
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> so sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid chellgate key ****************?
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> like that abattoir?
[07:45] <abattoir> also after conenction... try 'sudo ifup rausb0' if its connected...
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> mmmkay
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> i gotta write that down :D
[07:45] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: enter your encryption key after 'key'
[07:45] <abattoir> else drop that if you dont have one
[07:45] <abattoir> i.e its an open  network
[07:45] <ColonelKernel> i do
[07:45] <flaccid> can i have a url to knetworkmanager?
[07:46] <abattoir> !info knetworkmanager
[07:46] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.1~svn-r533312-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 263 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[07:46] <abattoir> flaccid: 'sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager' if it isnt installed already
[07:47] <flaccid> thanks do you know if it works for other distros like redhat? i havnt changed to ubuntu on laptop yet
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> is ndiswrapper preinstalled on 6.06 LTS?
[07:47] <abattoir> flaccid: i'm not sure
[07:47] <basheer> I have a question
[07:47] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper
[07:47] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[07:47] <ColonelKernel> hmm.
[07:47] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-tools
[07:47] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-tools does not exist in dapper
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> !info ndiswrapper
[07:48] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[07:48] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: its called something else
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> wow
[07:48] <basheer> I am trying to install the kubuntu version of automatix
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: what's it called theN?
[07:48] <abattoir> one sec
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> k
[07:48] <doppelganger_> you around aegean?
[07:48] <ColonelKernel> he is :D
[07:48] <doppelganger_> sent you one more private message
[07:48] <basheer> can someone please help me?
[07:48] <doppelganger_> lo
[07:48] <doppelganger_> lol
[07:48] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: Of corse
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> doppelganger_: Soz, getting Xorg to recompile
[07:49] <abattoir> basheer: please ask your question
[07:49] <aegeanlinux> basheer: whats up?
[07:49] <basheer> I am trying to install the kubuntu version of automatix
[07:49] <blake_> I still cant find that setting to make my whole window transparent :/
[07:49] <blake_> I'm looking in win decorations
[07:49] <blake_> for crystal
[07:49] <basheer> I cant get it going
[07:49] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: any luck on that ndiswrapper name?
[07:49] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: just a sec
[07:51] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[07:51] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[07:51] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ^^^^^
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> so I do /sudo aptget ndiswrapper-utils?
[07:51] <abattoir> 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils'
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> ah
[07:51] <aegeanlinux> basheer: are you trying to compile it?
[07:51] <ColonelKernel> thanks :D
[07:51] <basheer> I put deb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt kubuntu main in my sources.list and nothing
[07:52] <ColonelKernel> thank you so much abattoir. i'll go try
[07:52] <abattoir> blake_: there is a separate 'Translucency' section
[07:52] <abattoir> ColonelKernel: ok
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> basheer: try to compile it your self
[07:52] <flaccid> colonelkernel lol
[07:52] <blake_> ah, where is it located?
[07:52] <basheer> how so?
[07:52] <aegeanlinux> goto the site
[07:53] <abattoir> blake: [10:56:43]  <abattoir> blake_: click on the icon in the windeco (top left corner) ->Configure Window behaviour-> Translucency
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> download the source
[07:53] <basheer> I tried and it looks strange
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> tar -xvf it
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> can't help with looks
[07:53] <basheer> lol
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> I dont have that application you want
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> soz
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> I could get it if you want and help you out
[07:53] <aegeanlinux> its no hassle
[07:54] <abattoir> basheer: have you updated your sources?
[07:54] <basheer> please
[07:54] <basheer> yes
[07:54] <abattoir> 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[07:54] <basheer> yes
[07:54] <abattoir> and still you cant find the deb?
[07:54] <blake_> thanks abattoir, i foundit :)
[07:55] <abattoir> blake_: your welcome :)
[07:55] <basheer> nope
[07:55] <abattoir> *you're
[07:55] <Cntryboy> I need some help with compiling this source of f4l flash
[07:55] <basheer> Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/kubuntu/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:56] <basheer> that is what I get on sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <Cntryboy> anyone care to lend a hand
[07:57] <abattoir> basheer: either what you put in the sources.list file has a mistake... or there is something wrong w/ their archives
[07:57] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what is the problem exactly?
[07:57] <abattoir> basheer: dapper right?
[07:57] <basheer> yes
[07:58] <abattoir> and i386?
[07:58] <basheer> amd64