[01:25] <Trashcan> onkarshinde: sorry, 1.5.0
[01:25] <onkarshinde> ProN00b: Do you want me to ping on google talk?
[01:25] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install build-essential
[01:25] <Trashcan> screen name: your gmail addy without the @gmail.com
[01:25] <ProN00b> onkarshinde, could you talk to me on there ? same nick
[01:25] <Blissex> Hoxzer^: and this is the official page on LIRC and Xine: http://www.xinehq.de/index.php/readme#2.4.4
[01:25] <Trashcan> server: gmail.com
[01:25] <Trashcan> resource: Gtalk
[01:26] <Trashcan> 'more options' connect server: talk.google.com
[01:26] <p0windah> please, dont spam the whole channel
[01:26] <Trashcan> should be fine
[01:26] <Shin_Gouki> seveas, THX!!!
[01:26] <holycow> anyone have instructions for installing java on ubuntu?  i cannot find my old link to the ubuntu website, and now the instructions on there have some bullshit instructions on how to use the sun installer
[01:26] <holycow> anyone know of a prepackaged 1.5 jre?
[01:27] <onkarshinde> Trashcan: Hey I made Resource blank and it is working now. I know other settings.
[01:27] <TiMiDo> !tell holycow about jre
[01:27] <onkarshinde> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:27] <TiMiDo> !tell holycow about java
[01:27] <Seveas> !jaa
[01:27] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:27] <Seveas> !java
[01:27] <holycow> thats bullshit
[01:27] <holycow> i'm not installing it like that
[01:27] <CirroX> !java
[01:27] <holycow> *grrr*
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> !java
[01:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[01:27] <Shin_Gouki> ?
[01:27] <Trashcan> myspace crashed firefox :(
[01:28] <Seveas> holycow, i could give you a prepackaged one but my server just broke down tonight
[01:28] <Wizardling> Is there a BOINC (distibuted computing - SETI@home, etc) client for Mac Ubuntu?
[01:28] <p0windah> Wizardling: what does apt-cache say ?
[01:28] <holycow> Seveas, ah no prob, i thought there were prepackaged jres out there?
[01:28] <mattaion> hello everybody ! i am a new linux user and looking for additional programms. does anyone of you know a good page for downloads
[01:28] <holycow> i remember installing it last time, infact i have a repo but i can't login for some reason
[01:28] <ProN00b> there are, i apt-getted mine ^^
[01:28] <Chousuke> mattaion: you need none
[01:28] <kbrooks> holycow, there was in hoary-extras, but it was removed
[01:28] <p0windah> mattaion: sf
[01:29] <Chousuke> mattaion: use synaptic :P
[01:29] <holycow> kbrooks, aha! okay thats what i remember
[01:29] <p0windah> mattaion: sf.net, rather
[01:29] <Seveas> mattaion, applications -> add application
[01:29] <Seveas> don't download manually
[01:29] <holycow> kbrooks,was there are reason?
[01:29] <Trashcan> mattain: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager (on hoary)
[01:29] <TiMiDo> Seveas, are you an ubuntu devel?
[01:29] <holycow> installing it like in the factoid is not the right way to do it imho
[01:29] <mattaion> ok thank you!
[01:29] <mattaion> i will try...
[01:30] <onkarshinde> Does any one know if use of cairo has improved performance of GNOME in breezy?
[01:30] <spola> anyone knows what WORM meia is?
[01:30] <spola> media*
[01:30] <ProN00b> if you install java from the ubuntu first users guide, like i did, it fucks firefox, you got to turn it off in the browser
[01:30] <xTina> spola: Write Once Read Many.
[01:31] <spola> ty :p
[01:31] <holycow> ProN00b, yeah there used to be a deb package like kbrooks mentioned
[01:31] <onkarshinde> spola: a CDROM for example.
[01:32] <spola> dont you mean a cd-r ?
[01:32] <onkarshinde> spola: yes.
[01:33] <HeavyD> what happens if i remove ubuntu-desktop?
[01:33] <kbrooks> HeavyD, Nothing.
[01:33] <kbrooks> HeavyD, gnome wont be removed
[01:33] <HeavyD> ok, so it is safe to remove it with gimp?
[01:33] <HeavyD> because it removes it when i remove gimp
[01:34] <onkarshinde> HeavyD: It is just a meta package to help upgrading the distro
[01:34] <kbrooks> Can someone look at this and correct: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (Codecs/DVD-Video)
[01:34] <HeavyD> ok
[01:34] <onkarshinde> HeavyD: If you keep it you don't need to bother which packages are to be installed by default while upgradation.
[01:34] <HeavyD> ok
[01:34] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: what is to be corrected?
[01:34] <HeavyD> thx =)
[01:35] <mattaion> what is a good programm to burn Cds and DVDs ?
[01:35] <kbrooks> onkarshinde, marillat
[01:35] <Zeke1> anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?
[01:35] <onkarshinde> mattaion: gnome-baker
[01:36] <mattaion> thx
[01:36] <onkarshinde> Zeke1: cairo is not graphical manager, it is library
[01:36] <onkarshinde> !info gnome-baker
[01:36] <onkarshinde> mattaion: you may find it in universe
[01:42] <VoX> how do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?
[01:43] <element_> can someone help me out, im trying to install dwl-g50+ wireless card and im up to the point where it says run iwconfig (from sourceforge, after installing the wireless tools) and the return i get is "lo/eth0/sit0 - no wireless extensions.
[01:44] <element_> dwlg650+
[01:44] <vengeful> breezy?
[01:44] <Gorku> hi all
[01:44] <element_> warty
[01:45] <glyn> how do I get PDF reading capability for Ubuntu?
[01:45] <vengeful> no idea..consider breezy...good wireless support and only 10 days from stable
[01:45] <mischa> glyn, apt-get install xpdf
[01:46] <element_> well till then i got 10 days to try to work this problem out, ive been sitting on it for 6 weeks and im not about to give up now... any other takers?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> element_, normally wireless is eth1
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> you are using laptop i assume ?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> with one lan and wireless ?
[01:47] <glyn> mischa:How do I get a pdf file to open by default with xpdf?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> glyn, have you tried opening a pdf file ?
[01:48] <glyn> yeah it just asks me to find the location of what I want to open it with
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> i dont know about you but for me pdf just opens ... i never set any settings
[01:48] <Trashcan> same
[01:48] <avalost> you can always do: xpdf path/to/file/filename
[01:49] <kbrooks> "Ubuntu GNU/Linux"
[01:49] <kbrooks> wtf.
[01:49] <Trashcan> why?
[01:49] <Trashcan> technically it is based off of debian, and debian is a linux distro
[01:49] <glyn> where is the xpdf reader located exactly?
[01:49] <kbrooks> I don't know.
[01:49] <Trashcan> :
[01:49] <Trashcan> :O
[01:49] <glyn> I think it'd be easier to do that
[01:49] <Seveas> kbrooks, it's Ubuntu, not Ubuntu linux or Ubuntu GNU/linux
[01:49] <glyn> specify the location
[01:49] <VoX> how do i re-make/re-install the nvidia module for a new kernel version?
[01:50] <kbrooks> Trashcan, but ubuntu is drastically different from debian
[01:50] <Trashcan> aye
[01:50] <avalost> glyn, if you have it installed probably /usr/bin/xpdf
[01:50] <kbrooks> Seveas, I know. ;)
[01:50] <Seveas> kbrooks, good :)
[01:50] <element_> correct laptop with one onboard and wireless pcmcia. onboard is currently being used, any solutions?
[01:50] <avalost> or /usr/local/bin/xpdf
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> glyn, you don't need to know xpdf location ... i am sure it will be in ya path .. unless you changed ya path ...
[01:51] <avalost> glyn, if you can't find it you may want to do "sudo updatedb"
[01:51] <element_> link light is active but Act light is off.
[01:51] <VoX> anyone?
[01:51] <Seveas> !nvidia
[01:51] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:51] <avalost> VoX, do the same thing you did before, just "make clean" first
[01:52] <VoX> avalost: i havent had to do it before
[01:52] <VoX> Seveas: i tried that, didnt work
[01:52] <Nano|9000> people. whats good multi thread download manager to use?
[01:52] <atripathi> goodevening all
[01:52] <avalost> VoX, did you get a nividia package or did you compile from source?
[01:53] <glyn> how do I use xpdf to view a pdf link on a website?
[01:53] <atripathi> does anybody know if Evolution works with gmail ?
[01:53] <avalost> glyn, listen to me
[01:53] <wickedpuppy> atripathi, yes it does
[01:53] <kbrooks> What's zchat
[01:53] <kbrooks> zcat
[01:53] <atripathi> ok.....then it seems I have some misconf.
[01:54] <avalost> glyn, install xpdf, do "sudo updatedb", open page with firefox, click pdf you wanna open, select xpdf, click ok
[01:54] <VoX> avalost: nvidia package from memmory
[01:54] <avalost> VoX, fire up synaptic and look for packages
[01:55] <element_> anyone good any ideas on the wireless situation... eth1 is active but wireless card is down, i thought wireless runs on ath0
[01:55] <glyn> does sudo updatedb usually take a long time?
[01:55] <avalost> VoX, I do not have experience with nvidia packages at all but if it's already installed and there are no updated packages and it still doesn't work you may be able to do dpkg-reconfigure nvidiapackagename
[01:56] <VoX> avalost: i worked it out, didnt have the restricted headers for nvidia, for my new kernel
[01:56] <avalost> nice
[01:57] <glyn> when I do sudoupdatedb, my terminal just kinda sits there
[01:57] <mazzen> hi! im looking for a way to switch between two gcc version (3.4 and 4.0). i cant find a tool like gcc-config. how is this handle with ubuntu?
[01:57] <p0windah> glyn: yeah, it takes time
[01:57] <wickedpuppy> glyn, sudo updatedb ...two words
[01:57] <p0windah> glyn: grab yourself a coffee or beer
[01:57] <atripathi> there is no ximian or evolution channel on freenode :(
[01:57] <Skid> element_: my wifi card runs on eth1
[01:57] <Skid> (and also is shown as wifi0 too)
[01:58] <Skid> but i dont know why that's going off :/
[01:58] <VoX> glyn: yeah, it can take a while
[01:58] <Seveas> mazzen, export CC=gcc3.4
[01:58] <mazzen> argon: there is an evolution channel on irc.gimp.net
[01:58] <Seveas> etc...
[01:58] <atripathi> k
[01:58] <Seveas> mazzen, or sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[01:58] <mazzen> Seveas: Thanks! :-)
[01:58] <VoX> glyn: i've got a 3500+ amd64, and it takes about 3 minutes for me.. i remember on an old p3/500 it would take around 20minutes
[01:58] <jobu> /j
[01:58] <WinZ> anybody have an experience in configuring ejabberd in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <mazzen> argon: or better irc.gimp.org
[01:59] <element_> i see skid, so what can u recommend me to do now?
[02:00] <kbrooks> bbl
[02:01] <mazzen> huh! when i run "update-alternatives --config gcc " i get "No alternatives for gcc.
[02:01] <mazzen> " but i have gcc-3.4     gcc-4.0 ?
[02:01] <glyn> avalost:I ran sudoupdatedb and clicked on the direct link to the PDF, the window popped up asking what I wanted firefox to do, I said open with and chose usr/bin/xpdf but the "ok" box is in grey and I can't click it
[02:01] <glyn> *sudo updatedb
[02:02] <Seveas> mazzen, hmm, then it's probably sodu dpkg-reconfigure gcc-4.0
[02:03] <Seveas> dang, not even that
[02:03] <Seveas> manually symlinking it seems the only option
[02:03] <glyn> could it be possible xpdf is located somewhere other than usr/bin?
[02:04] <rawiramdhan> How do I connect with commands, to shared windows computers?
[02:04] <element_> glyn, if its a saving issue, try the back arrow within the firfox save window or try to create a new folder from the current location,.
[02:05] <Kartoffel> how can I make grub start an other linux distibution installed on its own partition?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> guys, on a window pc, i used winzip to split up a big file into smaller chunks. The files are named foo.z01, foo.z02, etc. How can I put them back together into one file again?
[02:05] <Kartoffel> +r
[02:05] <rawiramdhan> extract each file and zip it again?
[02:06] <Kartoffel> or better how to add this distribution to the bootmanager...
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> glyn, have you installed xpdf ?
[02:06] <glyn> Yes
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> if you have .. .try locate xpdf or whereis xpdf
[02:06] <glyn> I did that
[02:06] <bigfoot1> rawiramdhan, i don't think each file is extractable, at least, not on my ubuntu. there is no application set up to open these files.
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> then ?
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> what you got ?
[02:07] <rawiramdhan> apt-get install unrar-free
[02:07] <glyn> I have a bunch of language things like turkish cyrliic thai hebrew, xpdfrc "includes" and a bunch of other stuff
[02:07] <tommi^> Hi. I've installed windows on a second hard drive and it seems that Windows xp always changes the bios clock to local time and ubuntu assumes it's gmt. How do I correct this? How do I make my Ubunutu installation understand that it's local time, not gmt?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> whereis xpdf ?
[02:07] <Zeke1> anybody know about a graphical manager for gnome called kiro or cairo or something like that?
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> tommi^, configure your time ?? right click on your clock at the right top will do
[02:08] <glyn> usr/bin/xpdf usr/bin/xpdf.bin /etc/xpdf usr/share/xpdf usr/share/man/man1/xpdf.1.gz
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> Zeke1, what does that program manage ?
[02:08] <Zeke1> its apparently new and pretty good?
[02:08] <glyn> that's what I get when I do a whereis xpdf
[02:08] <mazzen> Seveas: thanks anyway!
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> glyn, then xpdf is in usr/bin
[02:08] <Zeke1> wickedpuppy, well its like gdm
[02:09] <Zeke1> its a graphics base for gnome
[02:09] <bigfoot1> is there a zip program for ubuntu? A program that works with files such as foo.z01, foo.z02?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> !zip
[02:09] <ubotu> I don't know, wickedpuppy
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms ... bigfoot1 there is unzip
[02:10] <Zeke1> anybody know anything about it
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> also zip
[02:10] <bigfoot1> wickedpuppy, does unzip work with my split files (foo.z01, foo.z02... ... ...)?
[02:10] <glyn> wickedpuppy:The only xpdf in usr/bin is a shell script
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> bigfoot1, i suppose so ... how i don't know ...
[02:10] <Skid> rar does
[02:10] <bigfoot1> Skid, rar works with split files in the format of foo.z01 foo.z02 etc?
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> usr/bin/xpdf.bin ?
[02:11] <Skid> afaik, yes
[02:11] <Skid> get it from www.rarlab.com
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> surely thats a binary file
[02:11] <Skid> then stick unrar/rar in /usr/bin ;)
[02:11] <bigfoot1> skid, not available from repo?
[02:11] <Skid> and then: unrar x zip.z01
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> thats a commercial product i believe
[02:11] <Skid> erm unrar is
[02:11] <Skid> but its crap
[02:11] <glyn> type:shell script size 1 kb mime type application/x-shellscript
[02:11] <Skid> and doens't split spanned files
[02:12] <Skid> you know have to extract it anyway
[02:12] <Skid> there's no compiling.
[02:12] <hubsi> guten tag
[02:12] <bigfoot1> unrar is excrement while rar isn't?
[02:12] <Skid> from the repo's, unrar is non-free
[02:12] <Skid> so; just download "winrar" from www.rarlab.com
[02:12] <glyn> ah I found the bin
[02:12] <bigfoot1> skid, are unrar and rar 2 seperate programs?
[02:12] <Skid> there's a linux/unix CLI variant
[02:12] <bigfoot1> Skid, winrar works with ubuntu?
[02:13] <Skid> yep
[02:13] <bigfoot1> so what is the best to get, skid: winrar or unrar or what?
[02:13] <Skid> bigfoot1: listen, just download from rarlab.com -
[02:13] <Skid> bleh
[02:13] <Skid> i'll get the link.
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:13] <lemics_> only command line
[02:13] <glyn> wickedpuppy:I still get the same problem when I try opening the file with xpdf.bin
[02:13] <Skid> bigfoot1: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz
[02:13] <Skid> get that
[02:13] <Skid> extract it
[02:13] <glyn> can't click ok
[02:13] <Skid> (tar zxvf rarlinux-3.5.0.tar.gz)
[02:14] <Skid> then moce into the dir
[02:14] <Skid> move
[02:14] <Skid> and copy the binaries to /usr/bin
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> glyn, can you download the pdf file and open it ?
[02:14] <bigfoot1> Skid, thanks.
[02:14] <Skid> or just run from there, but its' better if their in your path
[02:14] <glyn> I can't save it for some reason
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> see if you can view it
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> impossible ... what reason ?
[02:14] <glyn> I try saving it then I look for the file and it's not there
[02:14] <glyn> I click save and okay
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> then its not there!!!!!
[02:15] <bigfoot1> skid: "or just run from there, but its' better if their in your path" : are you talking to me
[02:15] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:15] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep
[02:15] <bigfoot1> if so, skid, how do i add to path?
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> if its not there , there is no way to see it ... you can't open a file that doesn't exist
[02:15] <Skid> just put them in /usr/bin (the files: rar, unrar and there's one more, like rar-stats or somthing)
[02:15] <glyn> hmm is it possible it can still be in a search engine even though it's not there anymore?
[02:16] <bigfoot1> Skid, there's a makefile inside. Do i have to run "make"
[02:16] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> glyn, can give me the link ?
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> let me see what are you trying to get
[02:16] <Skid> bigfoot1: hang on - pm me if you want just gonna get the file and see if it's the same one
[02:17] <glyn> wickedpuppy:www.nbcd.gov.tw/download/Ken's_thesis-final-Nov_2001_abstract_.pdf
[02:17] <Skid> bigfoot1: no, the makefile just moves the binaries into the respective directories
[02:17] <mattaion> hello, when i connect my ext harddisk and want to open it, ubuntu says it is onlx possible with "root". How can i fix that problem?
[02:17] <Skid> you can do it (with sudo), or just copy the rar/unrar files into /usr/bin yourself
[02:17] <bigfoot1> Skid, when is is using makefile a good thing?
[02:18] <Skid> when you're compiling.. if you want to, you can do it it doesn't really matter
[02:18] <Skid> it's just achieveing the same thing really
[02:18] <mattaion> i just installed ubuntu one hour ago, sorry i dont know what sudo is ?
[02:18] <Skid> either way it just puts the two binary files into the /usr/bin (local) directory
[02:19] <bigfoot1> skid, ok, so I'll copy and paste into usr/bin the programs: But is default.sfx included? It is an "executable."
[02:19] <Skid> !sudo
[02:19] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:19] <Skid> mattaion: check that link
[02:19] <wesley> people, how can i change my ip using txt mode?
[02:19] <Skid> nope
[02:19] <Skid> bigfoot1: an sfx is a "self extracting exe"
[02:19] <Skid> or executeable
[02:19] <mischa> glyn, /usr/bin/xpdf
[02:19] <Skid> same thing ;p
[02:19] <mattaion> ok thank you ! @skid
[02:19] <Skid> mattaion: np
[02:19] <Skid> wesley: "change" it ?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> skid, so if i understand you correctly, the non-nerdy way of doing what you say is running makefile correct?
[02:20] <wesley> yep, the ip'address
[02:20] <Skid> wesley: have a look @ /etc/network/interfaces
[02:20] <wesley> good
[02:20] <Skid> wesley: you need to use sudo to do so
[02:20] <Skid> (edit it)
[02:20] <Skid> bigfoot1: well yes, I guess heh
[02:20] <bigfoot1> okay.
[02:20] <Skid> I didn't even notice there was a makefile, bigfoot1 - so I just copied them in there myself
[02:20] <Skid> (to tell the honest truth
[02:21] <glyn> mischa>that won't work...
[02:21] <bigfoot1> Skid,  if you noticed the makefile, would you have used it?
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> glyn, your topic start with abstract
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> right ?>
[02:21] <wesley> and now, how can i reload the settings?
[02:21] <occy> will Breezy have a Graphical installer, or are we still in curses based install mode?
[02:21] <bigfoot1> skid, i ran the makefile now. I guess I can delete the extracted rar folder, right?
[02:21] <Skid> bigfoot1: probably not, as there's no compiling to be done - I just saw the rar and unrar files that I needed, and thought oh i'll put these into /usr/bin as that dir is already in the path variable
[02:21] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep
[02:22] <Zaphod_42> occy: why do you ask?
[02:22] <bigfoot1> well, skid, I'm a non-nerd, so i ran the makefile. I hope the effect is the same and the best one possible.
[02:22] <occy> Zaphod_42, heh, just curious.
[02:22] <Skid> bigfoot1: cat Makefile
[02:22] <Skid> you can see what it does
[02:22] <Skid> (makes two directories, and cp's rar and unrar into em)
[02:22] <bigfoot1> skid, i just doubleclicked on it and it opened up in gedit.
[02:22] <Skid> oh, and the other crap
[02:22] <Zaphod_42> ... thw preview has ncurses - luckily
[02:22] <Skid> :)
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> glyn, still there ?
[02:22] <occy> Zaphod_42, I'll use it either way, just want to know if we had worked out a Graphical installer yet or not.  I thought there was talk about it.
[02:23] <Skid> bigfoot1: open a shell, and type 'rar'
[02:23] <bigfoot1> done.
[02:23] <Skid> you'll see the options spammed at you if it's done it ok
[02:23] <Skid> but the command you need (to extract to the archives paths) is: unrar x <file>.<ext>
[02:23] <occy> wish I had a spare box just for testing stuff
[02:23] <Skid> so foo.z01 or whatever it was called
[02:23] <bigfoot1> skid the extensions are all different.
[02:23] <Skid> I've extracted zips with rar before
[02:24] <occy> can't afford to mess with my work laptop.
[02:24] <Seveas> occy, I had one, fan broke down a few hours ago :(
[02:24] <bigfoot1> it's from z01 to z29

[02:24] <occy> Seveas, :(
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: each file points to the next
[02:24] <Skid> try it
[02:24] <bigfoot1> skid, so which extension do i use, the first (z01)?
[02:24] <avalost> fans are easy to replace though
[02:24] <avalost> so it's not too bad searcher`
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: yep, or if there's a .zip use that
[02:24] <avalost> err Seveas
[02:24] <Seveas> if you can get them
[02:24] <Seveas> it's an old k7
[02:24] <rc55> Hi - I'm installing ubuntu under Qemu/Win32 and it's freezing trying to find the apt repository. The network is currently not setup, is there any way of skipping this step and configuring it later?
[02:24] <bigfoot1> skid, thanks. will try so now.
[02:24] <avalost> Seveas, newegg
[02:24] <Skid> bigfoot1: I extract .r01 -> rXX, or .part01's from rars all the time, sooooooooooooo it should work
[02:25] <glyn> wickedpuppy>yes sorry
[02:25] <ProN00b> rc55, i suggest you install qemu under ubuntu and run win32 from it
[02:25] <bigfoot1> skid, i ran "unrar foo.z01" but nothing seemed to happen.
[02:25] <glyn> wickedpuppy>Abstract is in the file
[02:25] <Skid> bigfoot1: it just returned to the command land?
[02:25] <bigfoot1> Skid, yes, the whole spam of options
[02:26] <rc55> ProN00b: It's not my system ;) - I agree with you completely. Any ideas on my problem?
[02:26] <Skid> bigfoot1: unrar x foo.z01
[02:26] <Skid> you forgot the parameter
[02:27] <bigfoot1> skid, "foo.z01 is not a RAR archive" is the error message I got.
[02:27] <zdavidlnx> any idea when "Breeze" final realease will come?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> zdavidlnx, Oct 13
[02:27] <Skid> bigfoot1: ok, is unzup installed?
[02:27] <Skid> unzip sorry
[02:27] <mischa> hi all
[02:27] <bigfoot1> Skid, no it's not. You just told me the link for rar.
[02:27] <bigfoot1> hi mischa
[02:27] <basti> does anyone have a  solution for this problem (not being able to install from a spanking new plextor dvd-burner)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52451
[02:27] <ProN00b> no, sorry, but using a live-cd might be an alternative solution, as well as just setting the network thingy up, or skipping it (somehow) ^^
[02:28] <egoleo> hello
[02:28] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with breezy....
[02:28] <bigfoot1> skid, if unzip is necessary, please tell me where to get. is it in repo+?
[02:28] <egoleo> is backports not working for breezy?
[02:28] <mischa> it takes for ever to start x
[02:28] <Skid> ok, bigfoot1: apt-get install unzip
[02:28] <Skid> (it may be in universe)
[02:28] <Ng> egoleo: there's nothing to backport yet ;)
[02:28] <Skid> then unzip --help (I've not used it before)
[02:29] <Skid> brb, gotta go to the garage.
[02:29] <egoleo> so where do i get some add ons for breezy
[02:29] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothong for a minute or two and that it continious normaly
[02:29] <egoleo> like mplayer
[02:29] <egoleo> and the codes
[02:29] <egoleo> codecs
[02:29] <egoleo> and acroread
[02:29] <_jason> !tell egoleo about restricted
[02:29] <silent_scream> hi! where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:29] <mischa> i can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...i
[02:29] <_jason> egoleo:  thats for the codecs, search the wiki for the other stuff and you should be in good shape
[02:30] <alisher> mplayer is in breezy, guess universe/multiverse
[02:30] <bigfoot1> can someone teach me unzip, please? I have it installed but can't understand unzip --help.
[02:30] <alisher> acroread too
[02:30] <egoleo> ok
[02:30] <bigfoot1> I'm trynig to unzip a multi-volume zipped file
[02:30] <egoleo> unzip filetounzip
[02:30] <alisher> codecs are out for legal reazons, you have to search yourself for
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo,  but the files are "chopped up" into foo.z01 foo.z02 ..... foo.z29
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, will your command work?
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, if so, which "file" do I use?
[02:31] <egoleo> yeah
[02:31] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:31] <egoleo> give me one of ur file names
[02:31] <_iGadget_> hi all
[02:31] <bigfoot1> egoleo, foo.z01
[02:31] <rawiramdhan> I'm searching for a program that can make, encrypt, decrypt and maintain passwords does anyknow A program who can do this?
[02:32] <_iGadget_> kwallet?
[02:32] <CirroX> Configured port 2/21 on ELC-SWI4.
[02:32] <CirroX> Set it to trunking mode and assigned to IPtel VLAN.
[02:32] <CirroX> exit
[02:32] <eeaaxx> anybody knows what are the boot parameters in ubuntu live cd?
[02:34] <egoleo> but is that a zip file?
[02:34] <bigfoot1> egoleo, yes, Winzip (on my Windows PC) made it.
[02:34] <alisher> rawiramdhan: just type "password manager" in Synaptic, you will find several of them
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  have you tried using accessories > archive manager?
[02:35] <bigfoot1> egoleo, I tried unzip foo.z01 but it asks for the last "disk" of the file.
[02:35] <bigfoot1> _jason, how do i do that?
[02:35] <bigfoot1> Do i have it try to open the file?
[02:35] <nalioth_zZz> bigfoot1: do you have all the archives?
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  go to accessories > archive manager
[02:35] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i think so.
[02:35] <egoleo> last disk of which file
[02:35] <rawiramdhan> I was looking voor a cli app, but thanx to alisher I think I found one..
[02:35] <_jason> bigfoot1:  it is in the applications menu
[02:35] <LaptopZZ> Is there any reason why I can boot live cds on my laptop, but I can't boot the install disk? I have tried 5.04 and 5.10
[02:36] <bigfoot1> from foo.z01 to foo.z26. For some reason I also have a file named foo.zip_renamed.
[02:36] <silent_scream> where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:36] <egoleo> then maybe is not a zip file
[02:36] <alisher> rawiramdhan: zsafe, kwalletmanager, fpm
[02:36] <bigfoot1> egoleo, what made you conclude so?
[02:36] <egoleo> check whethere is another archive file
[02:36] <egoleo> like .tar
[02:36] <egoleo> .bzip
[02:36] <egoleo> or something elese
[02:37] <pzico> help!! "Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt"..
[02:37] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....
[02:37] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...
[02:37] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:37] <egoleo> is either u dont have some driver support for ur system
[02:38] <egoleo> or some hardware support
[02:38] <bigfoot1> _jason, nalioth egoleo: For some reason I changed foo.zip_renamed to foo.zip and that fixes things!! I wonder why I renamed that file in the first place. Yahooooooooooooo! Gooooooooooooogle!
[02:38] <ScatterBrain> During bootup, hdparm starts and I get a message that '/dev/hdc was not found'.  /dev/hdc is my DVD+RW drive and I'm trying to enable DMA on it.
[02:38] <ubuntu_adiktus> hello
[02:38] <egoleo> oh ok
[02:38] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: it looks like your DVD drive has changed address and now lives in Las Vegas... :-)
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> can i ask how I can install ubuntu??
[02:39] <egoleo> so it means that it wasn't a zip file then
[02:39] <egoleo> is now
[02:39] <egoleo> yeash
[02:39] <ScatterBrain> DMA is actually enabled, but I'm concerned about the message.
[02:39] <_iGadget_> ubuntu_adiktus: of course you can :)
[02:39] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: I wish it would take me with it.  :-0
[02:39] <bigfoot1> egoleo, oh now. the file called foo.zip_renamed and now called foo.zip won't work still!
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> pls
[02:39] <egoleo> ubuntu_adiktus: do u have linux cd
[02:39] <Blissex> ubuntu_adiktus: there are rather complete installation instructions on the Ubuntu wiki online
[02:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> i dont have
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> i just download ubuntu cd image online
[02:40] <bigfoot1> In using archive manager, I get the error: "An error occured while extracting files"
[02:40] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: try to do these two things to check out things: 'head /proc/ide/hd*/model' and 'hdparm -v /dev/hd?'
[02:40] <_iGadget_> ubuntu_adiktus: well... maybe that's a good way to start. Burn it to a recorable cd, and boot from it ;)
[02:40] <bigfoot1> The output I got was: file #1:  bad zipfile offset (local header sig):  4
[02:40] <bigfoot1> what does the above mean?
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> it doesnt boot
[02:40] <ubuntu_adiktus> sir
[02:40] <nalioth> ubuntu_adiktus: check your md5 checksums
[02:41] <ubuntu_adiktus> ooopsss im a newbie
[02:41] <Blissex> bigfoot1: most probably that the ZIP file is slightly corrupted.
[02:41] <zdavidlnx> hi any one know the aprox. date of Breeze final release?
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, how can i check if corruption is in fact the problem?
[02:41] <Blissex> ubuntu_adiktus: you ahve to burn the ISO file as an _image_ not as a file.
[02:41] <nalioth> zdavidlnx: oct 13
[02:41] <_iGadget_> adiktus: if that doesn't work, have you tried booting from other cd's? Does that work?
[02:41] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: From the 'head' command I get model information from both my Hard Drive (hda) and my DVD (hdc)
[02:41] <Blissex> bigfoot1: yes you can :-).
[02:41] <ubuntu_adiktus> i have sucessfully created an ISO cd
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, how?
[02:41] <egoleo> ok
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Blissex, HOW can I check whether it is corrupted, or not+
[02:41] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:41] <egoleo> just restart ur system and slot the cd in
[02:42] <zdavidlnx> Thanks nalioth
[02:42] <Blissex> bigfoot1: use the 'zip -t' ('-t' means ''test'') command.
[02:42] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: from hdparm -v, I get the proper information, including the fact that DMA is enable for that drive.
[02:42] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: so everything should be all right... So it is a bit weird.
[02:42] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i hate to ask this....do you have a window box available?
[02:42] <silent_scream> where can I find libxslt-proc ???
[02:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth, not now, but why?
[02:43] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: what does 'ls -ld /dev/hdc' say?
[02:43] <_jason> does flash sound in firefox work in breezy?
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> oh i guess my cd is not yet in autoboot
[02:43] <Blissex> _jason: it works in all releases, but there are complicated issues anyhow.
[02:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: out there in the wilds of the internet is a program called "zipfix"
[02:43] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: brw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 Oct  3 08:34 /dev/hdc
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> Im using xp under ntfs
[02:43] <selinium> hi nalioth  :)
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> does it affect
[02:43] <Blissex> ScatterBrain: and that looks good too.
[02:43] <bigfoot1> nalioth, and zipfix is only for windows, yes?
[02:43] <ubuntu_adiktus> anything
[02:43] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: mawnin'
[02:43] <_iGadget_> adiktus: righto... so fix your bios, then try again ;)
[02:43] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i havent found it yet for linux
[02:44] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i see.
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks ill be back if something goes wrong
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks sir igadget
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> Ill reboot noe
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> now
[02:44] <_iGadget_> adiktus: just make sure to defrag your drive befor installing
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> bye
[02:44] <ubuntu_adiktus> why?
[02:44] <ScatterBrain> Blissex: Everything *seems* OK, I just don't like the bootup error.
[02:45] <_iGadget_> adiktus: because ubuntu wants a part of it...
[02:45] <bigfoot1> how could my zip files have gone corrupted? I just emailed the files to myself.
[02:45] <knubbe> anyone having troubles with Eclipse IDE since tonight's updates? (breezy)
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> ok
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks
[02:45] <bigfoot1> I thought corruption only happened with stuff like floppy disks.
[02:45] <ubuntu_adiktus> bye
[02:45] <_iGadget_> good luck
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> bigfoot1, it happens with bad memory and bad harddrives and bad ide controllers too
[02:45] <Blissex> bigfoot1: perhaps with the wrong attachment type -- if you did not use a binary attachment type, it has been transmitted as text, and that causes trouble.
[02:45] <nalioth> bigfoot1: corruption hs everywhere. your router can cause it
[02:46] <bigfoot1> ColonelKernel, next time I'm going to use an online storage space like sendthisfile.com or opera's free 300 MB storage.
[02:47] <phaser> any quick howto to make ati drivers work with 5.10
[02:47] <`6og> anyone here play gnometris?
[02:47] <Trashcan> !tell phaser about ati
[02:47] <phaser> :)
[02:47] <phaser> thanks.
[02:48] <`6og> :/
[02:48] <`6og> oh, the nic
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> better
[02:51] <slibs> hi
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was wondering if anyone else had had this bug in gnometris, thats why i asked :/
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi slibs :O
[02:51] <joe_alf> i have vmware installed on ubuntu and guest windows xp using nat and windows 2003 server using bridge. in windows xp i can connect to internet thru ubuntu 'host' but in windows 2003 server i can't connect to the internet. does anybody know how can i make the internet connection from host share to windows 2003 server using the bridge.
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, sorry joe_alf
[02:52] <slibs> any ideas why, when i try to connect in this channel with my other ubuntumachine, irssi suddenly freezes, and then i have to kill it to get things working again :D
[02:52] <nalioth> joe_alf: that seems to be either a vmware question or a windows question
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> irssi is a thing of the devil :)
[02:52] <Myrtti> <3 irssi
[02:52] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: no, that's bitchX :-)
[02:52] <slibs> and other thing, what update could cause that my cd-drive wont burn anything anymore?
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol ccooke
[02:53] <mischa> i am having a strange issue with starting gnome under breezy....
[02:53] <mischa> i get the splash screen and then nothing for a minute or two and then it continious normaly. I can see in my proses list that dbus-launch is resposible...
[02:53] <mischa> anyone have any idea what could cause dbus-launch to take soo long???
[02:53] <JustinHH> i had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help
[02:53] <ccooke> slibs: What were you using to burn?
[02:53] <slibs> k3b
[02:53] <slibs> i have also tried gnomebaker
[02:53] <ccooke> slibs: try cdrecord
[02:54] <ccooke> slibs: it'll give better error messages
[02:54] <slibs> is it unixlike or what?
[02:54] <ccooke> cdrecord is a command-line tool.
[02:54] <egoleo> yeah
[02:54] <slibs> yeah, that's what i tried to ask :D
[02:54] <slibs> but hey thanks, that's a good idea
[02:54] <egoleo> how do i burn an iso file with gnomebaker
[02:54] <avalost> can someone take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2736
[02:55] <ccooke> eglin ubuntu, just right-click on the file.
[02:55] <slibs> and hmm, it also has something to do with usb and firewire, since my dvd-drive is actually external one
[02:55] <egoleo> but how do i create the image
[02:55] <ccooke> avalost: that's fine.
[02:55] <egoleo> say from a Ubuntu cd
[02:55] <ccooke> egoleo: you want to burn an existing cd? or create a new image?
[02:56] <slibs> burning image and making one can't be used as same term :D
[02:56] <robertj> egoleo: you should be able to right click a cd and select burn
[02:56] <avalost> ccooke, what about removing it?
[02:56] <egoleo> yeah
[02:56] <ccooke> avalost: no, don't do that.
[02:56] <egoleo> but say i want to do cd to cd
[02:56] <avalost> ccooke, ok, thanks
[02:56] <ccooke> egoleo: simplest way to do that is, in a terminal:
[02:57] <egoleo> and how
[02:57] <whyameye> when I play sound through OSS it sounds great. Through Alsa or ESD, there are some dropouts/clicks. Can I adjust buffer size or something somewhere?
[02:57] <ccooke> egoleo: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso bs=8192
[02:57] <ccooke> egoleo: (assuming /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device. It might be /dev/cdrw)
[02:58] <egoleo> i tried mkok
[02:58] <ccooke> egoleo: if you try the command I gave you, you'll get an image.
[02:58] <egoleo> i tried mkfiso
[02:58] <ccooke> mkisofs?
[02:58] <egoleo> so it would squeeze it from the cd
[02:58] <udin> halo met malem
[02:59] <ccooke> that just creates an iso from a set of files
[02:59] <ccooke> egoleo: run the command I gave you.
[02:59] <egoleo> ok
[03:00] <JustinHH> i had some problems with grub. it apeared an error. i managed with an other program to boot windows. but now i can not start ubuntu. please help
[03:01] <nalioth> JustinHH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:01] <egoleo> so i can give any filename right
[03:01] <pl_ice> hi ya
[03:02] <egoleo> hi ya
[03:02] <jhank> i'm looking forward to the 13th... ;)
[03:03] <mopatop> what's on the 13th? breezy release?
[03:03] <pgavin> umm.... is there some script or daemon or something that periodically resets the wtmp file on ubuntu?
[03:03] <jhank> yepp :)
[03:03] <udin> alo met siang
[03:03] <pl_ice> any one seen papers on BIND configuration, or more like pdf book :/
[03:03] <samu2> is there a way to play ALL wmvs in linux? i seem to only be able to play like a third of them. bit annoying.
[03:04] <egoleo> what player are using
[03:04] <nalioth> samu2: you'll have to ask Uncle Bill to help you with that question
[03:04] <egoleo> for that
[03:04] <_iGadget_> samu2: are you sure those others don't have DRM?
[03:04] <jhank> warty was reaaaally promising but a few bugs made me angry like skype (i know it wasnt ubuntu's fault)
[03:04] <mopatop> I'd love a BIND graphical config
[03:04] <jhank> what else... i already forgot...
[03:04] <pl_ice> mopatop ,i'm listening ...
[03:05] <Chase> how do i stop kerenl modules autoloading in the new ubuntu 5.10 preview? I cant remember how i did it before :-(
[03:05] <ardiansyah> alo
[03:05] <lukenova> hello
[03:05] <egoleo> hello
[03:05] <pl_ice> mopatop , so u don't have any material on it?
[03:05] <Chase> hello
[03:05] <samu2> _iGadget_, VLC says "[00000251]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format."
[03:05] <pl_ice> i
[03:05] <mopatop> pl_ice: no heh :'(
[03:06] <pl_ice> :(
[03:06] <samu2> so yeah, format not supported. but i was wondering if i might be missing some codecs or something.
[03:06] <nalioth> samu2: yes, microsoft changes the codecs all the time, just so non-windows users cant use it
[03:06] <nalioth> samu2: you are screwed just like the rest of us
[03:06] <lukenova> i have a question. i'm semi-new to linux. i would like to install this and try it out...i've already tried the live-cds for both ubuntu and kubuntu...but i just want to ask...can i install it without having to lose my windows partition? cuz i'd like to be able to fall back to windows if i need to...
[03:06] <deFrysk> samu2, its what they say 'policy"
[03:07] <egoleo> great
[03:07] <egoleo> u can
[03:07] <nalioth> lukenova: yes you can
[03:07] <egoleo> buit what us ur disk size
[03:07] <samu2> can you play this one? http://www.cthulhulives.org/cocmovie/trailer.html either the mov or the wmv.
[03:07] <egoleo> what is ur disk size
[03:07] <ProN00b> samu2, check other video players, xine, mplayer (of course vlc is best)
[03:08] <nalioth> samu2: install libquicktime
[03:08] <lukenova> i have a 120gb and a 80gb HD in this machine
[03:08] <nalioth> lukenova: you can easily dual boot
[03:08] <ProN00b> there is libquicktime ?
[03:08] <samu2> nalioth, umm yeah. but does that include a plugin for mozilla?
[03:08] <lukenova> but the one i'm thinking about installing on has a 40gb i think
[03:08] <deFrysk> lukenova, 10 gigs is plenty for ubuntu
[03:08] <nalioth> samu2: mozilla mplayer plugin
[03:08] <deFrysk> lukenova, so should be no prob
[03:08] <nalioth> lukenova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:09] <lukenova> awesome...i'll probably download and give it a try then...thanks for your help
[03:09] <samu2> nalioth, E: Couldn't find package libquicktime
[03:09] <egoleo> cool
[03:09] <deFrysk> lukenova, if you would like to share between files easyly from ubuntu-windows make a share partition using vfat
[03:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell samu2 about sources
[03:09] <nalioth> samu2: enable universe and multiverse
[03:10] <samu2> i thought i enabled all of those already
[03:10] <egoleo> i upgraded from hoary to breezy
[03:10] <ProN00b> samu2, apt-cache search libquicktime reveals that the name is libquicktime1
[03:10] <egoleo> but my xserver is not working
[03:10] <egoleo> given me errors
[03:10] <Gorku> people, i'm having some problems with alsa, can someone help me a bit? ;)
[03:10] <samu2> ProN00b, that helps.
[03:10] <egoleo> errors: can't create serverauth
[03:11] <egoleo> no permission
[03:11] <udin> alo
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> Gorku, if you never ask ... we never know
[03:11] <egoleo> ask what u want Gorku
[03:11] <samu2> will firefox go crazy if i have both mozilla mplayer plugin and the mozilla vlc plugin installed?
[03:11] <ProN00b> i don't think it will enable you to play proper quicktime with vlc (i think you could bevore, but most new quicktime vids use a newer sound codec you can't play)
[03:11] <zdavidlnx> bye
[03:11] <ProN00b> mozilla wont, samu2, however, the universe will colapse...
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> samu2, try it ... if firefox goes nut tell me ... i wanna do it as well
[03:12] <samu2> ProN00b, i dont feel like ive had as much trouble with mov as with wmv
[03:12] <egoleo> do u also have the same problem when u install breezy with firefix
[03:12] <nalioth> samu2: the more modern microsoft codecs wont play no matter what you do
[03:13] <ProN00b> samu2, i couldn't play quicktime sound (in vids from apple.org) with vlc yet, can you ?
[03:14] <samu2> ProN00b, hmm. i think the doom trailer was without sound...
[03:14] <samu2> can i also ask how youre supposed to upgrade to breezy when it gets released in a few days?
[03:14] <ProN00b> negative
[03:15] <egoleo> just do sudo vi /etc/apt/source.list
[03:15] <pl_ice> hi again
[03:15] <egoleo> and change all hoary to breezy
[03:16] <ProN00b> holy
[03:16] <ProN00b> does that work ?
[03:16] <nalioth> samu2: apt makes it easy, just a change in wording from "hoary" to "breezy"
[03:16] <ProN00b> why isn't there no gui way to do it ?
[03:17] <ProN00b> would be a feature for the updatereminder
[03:17] <egoleo> yeah
[03:17] <egoleo> that is what i am doing now
[03:17] <neco> hello
[03:17] <slibs> amm
[03:17] <egoleo> i am using breezy now
[03:17] <ProN00b> you r modding the updatereminder, egoleo ?
[03:18] <samu2> hmm, is there no way to just press a "upgrade to breezy" button somewhere?
[03:18] <slibs> so i can change my hoary to breezy with apt-get?
[03:18] <egoleo> nopes
[03:18] <nalioth> samu2: not quite THAT easy
[03:18] <ProN00b> thats uncool
[03:18] <ccooke> slibs: yes. However, there is some risk involved.
[03:18] <pl_ice> hey, is there a way to 'join' 2 pc so that their processes can be split onto 2 processors??
[03:18] <egoleo> but one thing u have to comment the the first line of that file
[03:18] <ccooke> slibs: it'll be mmuch easier when breezy is fully released
[03:18] <egoleo> which is that cdrom something something
[03:18] <scandium_> ok, I was told there are other people having the "read error" during breezy installation problem and it is said to be caused by enabling DMA, is there a way to boot with IDE DMA disabled to at least get breezy installed? (ide=nodma doesn't seem to work)
[03:18] <slibs> ccooke: hah like what?, using windows is a risk
[03:19] <samu2> It just seems like such a workaround to change all instances of hoary to breezy in a textfile somewhere.
[03:19] <ProN00b> when will breezy be released ?
[03:19] <egoleo> yeah
[03:19] <slibs> ProN00b: topic?
[03:19] <samu2> Instead of having an actual upgrade -system command or something. Or a GUI tool to do it.
[03:19] <egoleo> then when u finish with that
[03:19] <ProN00b> as i said, they should put it in the gui updater
[03:20] <egoleo> u do sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <egoleo> and then
[03:20] <ProN00b> su > sudo
[03:20] <egoleo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:20] <nalioth> samu2: if you follow the link in the /topic, you'll find info on a one-line command to issue in the terminal, and then you can use your 'easy button'
[03:20] <ccooke> slibs: slightly more risky than running windows for a couple of months, I guess :-)
[03:20] <egoleo> that should work fine for ur new ubuntu breezy
[03:20] <egoleo> is working perfect for me
[03:20] <ccooke> slibs: the older a hoary install and the more software you have on it, the more chance of the upgrade breaking something.
[03:21] <obsvuugj> can I reduce a partition with partman ?
[03:21] <egoleo> comment the backports too
[03:21] <samu2> nalioth, do you mean the upgrading to breezy link?
[03:21] <slibs> ccooke: oh shit :D
[03:22] <ccooke> slibs: heh
[03:22] <slibs> sounds like it going to crash for sure in my case
[03:22] <ccooke> slibs: if you have an older install with lost of customisation - just install from the CD.
[03:22] <ccooke> make a backup of your home directory
[03:23] <slibs> mm
[03:23] <nalioth> samu2: type /topic
[03:23] <obsvuugj> and how can the fingerprint reader work on a mIcRo$oFt keyboard ?
[03:24] <slibs> im just thinking that is it wise to upgrade to breezy as soon as it'll be released :/
[03:24] <samu2> nalioth, I suppose you mean http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes? It says that there's a risk involved to it.
[03:24] <egoleo> if dont want to play with ur system
[03:24] <egoleo> then u should wait for sometime
[03:24] <egoleo> b4 u upgrade
[03:25] <slibs> like should i stick with hoary for a while, since i finally got things like i want them to be, except that my cd-rom drive wont burn cd's or dvd's anymore :/
[03:25] <egoleo> but at least for now is cool on my system
[03:25] <egoleo> i love breezy
[03:25] <egoleo> now is fast
[03:25] <nalioth> samu2: right now breezy is still being polished. there is a small small chance if you upgrade something might come down and bodger your box
[03:25] <egoleo> nautilius is also a real browser
[03:25] <slibs> is there a page which tells what's different in breezy?
[03:25] <egoleo> cool
[03:25] <egoleo> more stuffs
[03:25] <nalioth> samu2: very small
[03:25] <whyameye> is there a sample rate convertor for sound at the command line? Audacity isn't doing it's job...
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> slibs, won't burn ? using what program ? k3b ?
[03:25] <Gorku> i've a laptop with a es1688 card, everything seems to be ok, but nothing produces sound :/
[03:25] <egoleo> google for it
[03:25] <slibs> wickedpuppy: yeah
[03:25] <egoleo> breezy
[03:26] <slibs> wickedpuppy: some update caused that
[03:26] <egoleo> or check on ubuntu.org
[03:26] <wickedpuppy> is it common ??
[03:26] <samu2> slibs http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[03:26] <slibs> common like what?
[03:26] <egoleo> sound too is cool
[03:26] <neco> Gorku, es1688? I had one before
[03:26] <egoleo> and i like totem is now great
[03:27] <neco> Gorku, ESS lol
[03:27] <samu2> nalioth yeah im not upgrading yet. but i am just wondering what the official procedure for upgrading when breezy is officially available, is gonna be like.
[03:27] <Gorku> neco: i think that is that card, /proc/asound/cards says that, but the sound doesn't work
[03:27] <nalioth_wrkn> samu2: same as the one outlined in the wiki
[03:27] <egoleo> that is all i have told u
[03:28] <Gorku> the apps detect the card, but they doesn't work
[03:28] <slibs> oh "Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys,"
[03:28] <neco> Gorku, modprobe...
[03:28] <Gorku> and the mixers work also
[03:28] <slibs> that sound's good!
[03:28] <Blissex> Gorku: work thru the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 but I remember other people had trouble with a 1688 and could not fix that.
[03:28] <samu2> so you are supposed to replace your sources.list manually and then run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:28] <Gorku> ok, thanks
[03:28] <egoleo> update first
[03:28] <neco> Gorku, I have some debian notes about ess
[03:29] <samu2> i just think replacing a text file somewhere to update your whole system feels a bit flimsy.
[03:29] <egoleo> b4 dist-upgrade
[03:29] <egoleo> that is what i doing now
[03:29] <pl_ice> hey, are there any howto caming as standart with ubuntu? where abouts?
[03:29] <egoleo> is working
[03:30] <neco> my ess isa card seems to be fine...
[03:34] <scandium_> does anyboy know if breezy will be installable using DVD drives which have the Philips Nexperia PNX7860E chipset? (BenQ and Plextor use it, perhaps others, breezy isn't installable using them :( Is this even a known problem?
[03:34] <scandium_> "if breezy final will be", I mean
[03:36] <fullybad> does Ubutu support two network cards ?
[03:36] <scandium_> yes
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: yeh, it does
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: im suprrised it wont
[03:36] <cef> ok, who broke usplash?
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you checked bugzilla? this is teh first i have hear of it
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> cef:  the devs
[03:37] <fullybad> but  since I put the second one I do have internet connection anymore
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad:  ist probalby trying to use the wrong card.
[03:37] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, there is a "enable DMA by default for drives that are known to work"-bug and I heard that happens when DMA is enabled, but I don't know if 1) this is true and 2) the bug is related to that
[03:37] <fullybad> no
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> and fwiw, i have 2 cards n my box
[03:37] <cef> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm going to blame Daniel Stone.. if only cos even if it isn't his fault, I'm sure he deserves the blame for something!
[03:38] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, there are a few people on ubuntuforums.org which have that problem...the installation just fails with a read error at the beginning of the curses installer
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol cef, dont blame dan
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hes from aust ;)
[03:38] <fullybad> the second one is not configure
[03:38] <ccooke> cef: update to 0.1-21
[03:38] <fullybad> should i configure the second one also ?
[03:38] <fullybad> ?
[03:38] <ccooke> cef: and do a  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:39] <pl_ice> any one connected 2 pc together to use 2 processors at one time??
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: tryied doing an install with dma off?
[03:39] <ccooke> cef: okay?
[03:39] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, like "linux ide=nodma"? doesn't work
[03:39] <cef> ccooke: you mean the one I have installed which DOESN'T work?
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: check in system -> admin -> networking
[03:39] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser ws wrong with aust ;)
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> make sure its right in there
[03:39] <ccooke> cef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. pl_ice, im not perfect :P
[03:39] <HiddenFly> is there a good download manager that can download simultaneously from multiple servers?
[03:39] <scandium_> Kamping_Kaiser, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71401 - and the first person responding told me he has the same problem and looking at the thread he posted this problem is there for months :)
[03:39] <cef> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm from aus as well.. Daniel deserves everything he gets *grin*....
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> scandium_: hm. :/
[03:40] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser but u gettin there ;)
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: downloader for x?
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao Pl, thanks ;)
[03:40] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: http/ftp
[03:40] <BlueEagle> hiddenfly: wget
[03:40] <HiddenFly> k
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> cef: lol. go to sleep :)
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> its late in aust
[03:41] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser 21:40 ;)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> 23:11 :)
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: never asks me any questions, even using -plow, so no difference.
[03:41] <BlueEagle> 15:40
[03:41] <fullybad> yes I 've done it
[03:41] <pl_ice> west side :D
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: what?
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: only thing I can think of is that it's broken for nvidia users
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> foriener :P
[03:41] <fullybad> but  the second network card is inactiv
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> j/k
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: it should have nothing to do with nvidia.
[03:41] <cef> ccooke: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow usplash'
[03:41] <ccooke> cef: what never aksked you a question?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: are tehy both pluged in? so you have set the default gateway?
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: it doesn't.
[03:42] <fullybad> yes
[03:42] <cef> ccooke: "ccooke> cef: tried the dpkg-reconfigure line?"
[03:42] <fullybad> they are both plugin'
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: yes, the one I gave you
[03:42] <ccooke> cef: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:42] <HiddenFly> well, how can i make wget to use multiple servers?
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: i mean both with cables attached
[03:43] <fullybad> and I've seted the default gw
[03:43] <cef> ahh missed that
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> not in the pc :|
[03:43] <fullybad> no
[03:43] <fullybad> only one in moment is with cable attached
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. make sure they are on different networks, and (i just realised) check whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:44] <fullybad> I just pluge the second one
[03:44] <pl_ice> fullybad disable ur fwall, i got 2 netw. and a problem couse ifup one 2nd is not premitted
[03:44] <fullybad> and I have two different network cards
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> fullybad: yes, we get that bit
[03:45] <cef> ccooke: of note: "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[03:45] <cef> "
[03:45] <ccooke> cef:where are you getting that?
[03:46] <ccooke> cef: that sounds like nothing to do with usplash
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: after running that dpkg-reconfigure line
[03:46] <fullybad> how can i dissable ifup ?
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: I know.. just pointing it out
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> "... i want to disconnect, i want to break free, i want to cut of the electronic electronic leash...."
[03:46] <pl_ice> ifdown ...
[03:46] <ccooke> cef: try rebooting.
[03:46] <BlueEagle> kamping_kaiser: No you don't.:P
[03:46] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, no you don't
[03:46] <fullybad> ok
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:46] <[LethAL] > ROFL
[03:46] <fullybad> thx
[03:46] <cef> ccooke: just about to.. bbk
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> nice boys/gilrs ;)
[03:47] <fullybad> I will now lol
[03:47] <BlueEagle> [lethal] : ^5
[03:47] <[LethAL] > :P
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[03:47] <mattaion> hello, i just added k3b, how can i open it ?
[03:47] <apokryphos> mattaion: alt+f2 -> k3b
[03:47] <pl_ice> ALT f2
[03:47] <mattaion> zhx
[03:48] <mattaion> thx
[03:48] <fullybad> where can i get a howto about the ifup ifdown issue ?
[03:48] <alumno> hola
[03:48] <Seveas> man ifup
[03:48] <fullybad> thx
[03:48] <Seveas> hi alumno
[03:48] <alumno> hola
[03:49] <alumno> what you
[03:49] <egoleo> hola
[03:49] <fullybad> so I going reading now :-)
[03:49] <pl_ice> any one got BIND up and running?
[03:49] <SanderD> Hi! Would it be a bad idea to try WineCVS? Can I easily undo it to install a .deb version later?
[03:49] <alumno> alguno que hable espaol
[03:50] <[LethAL] > Anyone have any ideas why my wireless connection allways thinks it's fine but I occasionally have to unplug my adapter, plug it back in and then ifup it... So I don't think it's cordless phones. Anyon have any other ideas?
[03:50] <kevor> how to add $a and $b in a bash script? b is 0 and a is 0.001
[03:50] <apokryphos> SanderD: I presume it's a simple compile from source, in which case the answer is: yes, most probably.
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: i did, but with a lot of hand holding (on another box ;D)
[03:50] <HiddenFly> im trying to install downloader for x, and when i do ./configure i get this error: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[03:50] <HiddenFly> how to fix that?
[03:50] <apokryphos> SanderD: after you make install just make sure you keep the source, and then you can do a make uninstall when you wanna remove it
[03:50] <thenuke> alumno: #ubuntu-es
[03:50] <searcher`> HiddenFly: did you install build-essential?
[03:51] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  join the club :/ maybe it's overheating
[03:51] <SanderD> apokryphos: Okay, then I'll try that.
[03:51] <HiddenFly> searcher`: nope, how can i do that?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> kevor: #bash
[03:51] <egoleo> install the the essential-compilers
[03:51] <searcher`> HiddenFly: apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: whats wrong with apt :|
[03:51] <searcher`> put sudo in front of that
[03:51] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, It doesn't do it in XP... go figure ;)
[03:51] <egoleo> which would include c++ comp
[03:51] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser need some howto just for easy oneoff setup, on lan only school project
[03:51] <hon> how can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?
[03:51] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  dmesg then
[03:51] <cef> ccooke: worked. thanks. now if only I can stop a number of the lower panel apps from causing issues at bootup.. *sigh*
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> you cant afaik
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: not sure i can help :/
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> the 'real easy ' bit is the tricky bit
[03:52] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser , oki
[03:52] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  are u usin acx chip?
[03:52] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, rt2570
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: linuxfromscratch.org has good tutes (skip the compile bits) otherwise, basicly right most of the time
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> gentoo is another realy good one
[03:53] <hon> Seveas: how can I downgrade to 2.6.11 ?
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon i dont think you can
[03:53] <cef> ok, I need food.. bbk later ppl
[03:53] <searcher`> hon: you can, but you'll have to learn how to use pinning in apt
[03:53] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  neh i got acx and that happens, try to change ur settings on router, that helped a lot mtu max
[03:54] <hon> what about compiling from source?
[03:54] <searcher`> hon: that would work too :-)
[03:54] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, I'm pretty sure it can't go higher than what it is now
[03:54] <hon> I am a simple (minded!) user, which one is easier?
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, why do you need the old kernel?
[03:55] <searcher`> hon: using apt
[03:55] <hon> spca5xx driver hangs up for me
[03:55] <apokryphos> hon: to downgrade: just install the other kernel (select it from synaptic); if you can't, just remove the old one and then add it in
[03:55] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  how about the other settings? speed of transmition, i changed 3-4 of them, it become more stable o/w dunno
[03:55] <apokryphos> hon: the 2.6.11 will still be used however until you reboot
[03:55] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: 2.6.11 was a known buggy/problematic kernel
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah ok
[03:56] <hon> oh! so perhaps I need 2.6.10?
[03:56] <bina> whats colony 5 mean?
[03:56] <apokryphos> yes, or -- if you're on breezy -- 2.6.12
[03:56] <pl_ice> apokryphos so what's the latest on ubuntu? couse kernel.org got newer that i can find ...
[03:56] <hon> yep I'm on breezy
[03:56] <apokryphos> bina: the Colonies are snapshots of the development work (of breezy)
[03:56] <nitzan> any1 can help with wifi problems?
[03:56] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, Maybe taking the machine off the DMZ may help
[03:56] <[LethAL] > :P
[03:56] <apokryphos> pl_ice: newest on ubuntu breezy is 2.6.12; on Hoary 2.6.11 -- but it's recommended you don't use that, really.
[03:57] <egoleo> how do i use my infra red with ubuntu
[03:57] <apokryphos> bina: ...on ISOs, that is. See /topic for link.
[03:57] <bina> apokryphos: will do.  thanks
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: stand on one hand, the wave your right foot right.... then.....etc
[03:57] <pl_ice> [LethAL]  don't think so, .. dmz is just coverting u with fwall or not... not good idea...
[03:57] <pl_ice> apokryphos ok
[03:57] <apokryphos> hon: you want .12, that is.
[03:57] <hon> so let me give 2.6.12 another try.
[03:58] <egoleo> kamping
[03:58] <egoleo> what is that
[03:58] <[LethAL] > pl_ice, in the words of ubotu, "NO SPEAKE ENGLISH!"
[03:58] <hon> but my machine still hangs when using v4l
[03:58] <egoleo> what do i need b4 my infrared works
[03:59] <pl_ice> bed time :/
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> pl_ice: jsut a tic
[03:59] <nitzan> Does anyone have drivers for wifi card: ipn2220 ?
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BIND9ServerHowto?highlight=%28bind%29 < pl_ice
[03:59] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser thnx
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck :)
[04:00] <pl_ice> yeh :)
[04:00] <[LethAL] > nitzan, try google ipn2220 linux
[04:00] <egoleo> Kamping_Kaiser
[04:00] <egoleo> u gonna help me?
[04:00] <egoleo> with infrared?
[04:00] <pl_ice> Kamping_Kaiser u gett' popular ;)
[04:00] <coobra> im trying : sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5. is there any one that has the same probs  like me i just can installit :/
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: i havent used it, im trying to find some stuff in teh wiki
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol pl_ice
[04:00] <pl_ice> egoleo what's wrong?
[04:00] <apokryphos> coobra: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[04:01] <egoleo> download java direct from sun
[04:01] <coobra> ohh
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra: you on hoary or breezy?
[04:01] <egoleo> then u install it
[04:01] <coobra> hoary :/
[04:01] <apokryphos> egoleo: no, there's debs around for it
[04:01] <egoleo> yeah
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra:  giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs
[04:01] <egoleo> i normally download it
[04:01] <forkqueue> coobra: Use make-jpkg from debian unstable
[04:01] <egoleo> and fakeroot it
[04:01] <nitzan> LOL, i Know to use google - i'm just looking for a .deb pkg
[04:01] <coobra> ok
[04:01] <forkqueue> coobra: It'll build you a .deb from the Sun .bin
[04:01] <egoleo> for it to become and deb file
[04:01] <apokryphos> coobra: download the .deb and dpkg -i <package> -- that's the best/easiest way.
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> !infrared
[04:02] <apokryphos> forkqueue: no point; there's debs already for it.
[04:02] <[LethAL] > nitzan, add the word deb then ;)
[04:02] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Kamping_Kaiser
[04:02] <pl_ice> c ya
[04:02] <[LethAL] > !wiki infrared
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[04:02] <coobra> ok
[04:02] <[LethAL] > :/
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[04:02] <egoleo> i said i want to know how to use the infrared on ubuntu
[04:02] <whyameye> openoffice channel is dead. Can anybody help me with a question on hyperlinks in ooimpress? I can't seem to delete/move them or change them in any way.
[04:02] <egoleo> how to activate it
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> egoleo: i cant find anything on it, so i wont be much use
[04:03] <apokryphos> egoleo: you've said your question about, erm, twenty times =)
[04:03] <egoleo> ok
[04:03] <egoleo> so u help
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> apart from the laptop testing bit ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/InfraRedPNP?highlight=%28infrared%29
[04:03] <hon> what was used to compile the kernel in breezy? 4.0.1? or 3.4, ... ?
[04:03] <egoleo> yes
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> have fun....
[04:03] <apokryphos> egoleo: if someone is able/willing to help, they will
[04:03] <egoleo> ok
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, something in 4
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure exactly
[04:03] <egoleo> someone should
[04:03] <chrisbudden14> Hello, the network manager for the panel, for my wireless connection the signal strength keeps changing
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, try installing irda-utils
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> but the connection is still there
[04:04] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, That's called normality
[04:04] <egoleo> thnx
[04:04] <egoleo> i will
[04:04] <hon> is it the same version that I receive through apt-get install gcc or not?
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> it hasn't been doing it though
[04:04] <chrisbudden14> and im in the same place
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, be aware that I've never used IR though
[04:04] <egoleo> so sudo apt-get irda-utils?
[04:04] <egoleo> ok
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hon, in breezy yes
[04:04] <hon> good
[04:04] <hon> thanks
[04:04] <[LethAL] > egoleo, sudo apt-get install irda-utils
[04:04] <egoleo> ok
[04:04] <primoturbo> hey guys in order to access a mount in gnome what do I need to do
[04:05] <primoturbo> how come I cannot open the folder?
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lirc isnt it [LethAL] ?
[04:05] <wesley> people... i've just installerd the ubuntu ..so i'm seeing that this one is so slow
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> primoturbo: what mount point?
[04:05] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I did /exec apt-cache search infrared, dont' blame me :P
[04:05] <wesley> i'm using a notebook hp nx6125
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:05] <primoturbo> it's a windows mount
[04:05] <[LethAL] > primoturbo, I have the same problem... not sure about it
[04:05] <egoleo> thnx
[04:05] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , any idea why it would suddenly start happening.
[04:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i cant remember the bots entry for windows
[04:05] <fbn> which package is Places / Network Servers for a bugreport?
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs
[04:06] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[04:06] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, Cordless phones probably
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i expect your problem is perms [LethAL]
[04:06] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, so did I
[04:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> we must both be smart ;)
[04:06] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , it has only just started happening and the connection speed is still there, same as always
[04:07] <[LethAL] > chrisbudden14, heat... wireless things get hot
[04:07] <chrisbudden14> i see
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I chown'ed the mount point then mounted it... nothing
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, no, problems with fstab :)
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, of course, I only needed to install some packages so I used sudo -i
[04:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need to add a usermask to the fstab line for the filesystem
[04:08] <[LethAL] > Isn't NoName Script for mIRC?
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, afaik
[04:09] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, you mean user,uid=1000?
[04:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks right, but i forget exactly (thank god - i have no need to remember :D)
[04:10] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I don't really now... I just get the ext2ifs driver if I need something for Ubuntu (i.e. packages to get net access)
[04:10] <catfox> do echo $UID and add uid=500 (or whatever number) to the fstab
[04:10] <[LethAL] > need to now*
[04:10] <chrisbudden14> [LethAL] , ironically when i unplug the antenna from the router, the signal strength is better
[04:10] <X3M> how can I extract *.rar?
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about fat32
[04:10] <[LethAL] > X3M, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[04:11] <X3M> [LethAL]   thanks
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> imo changing ubuntu to point to the winmac FS generator is a bad idea, rather then point to the wiki
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, then read the man page for it
[04:11] <catfox> [LethAL] , X3M unrar-nonfree?
[04:11] <X3M> E: Couldn't find package unrar-free
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, nonfree is better but not 'free' :P
[04:11] <[LethAL] > X3M, universe iirc
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : what is your filesystem? ntfs or vat32?
[04:11] <CirroX> quit
[04:12] <[LethAL] > nt
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> k
[04:12] <MaRcIo> does anybody have the psp?
[04:12] <Trashcan> yeh
[04:12] <[LethAL] > Argh
[04:12] <[LethAL] > Why, anyway?
[04:12] <MaRcIo> so why do memory sticks need an adptor?
[04:13] <Trashcan> it takes the Duo format
[04:13] <MaRcIo> but does it stretch out the consolle?
[04:13] <Trashcan> i think the adaptor is for USB-plug-in-your-memory-stick

[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Trashcan: o_0 weird nic :)
[04:14] <Trashcan> :)

[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:14] <Trashcan> ;p
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:14] <Trashcan> process execution in python is really annoying
[04:15] <MaRcIo> i didn't start with <ot> so there is a programming error in this chan
[04:15] <[LethAL] > A rather big one :P
[04:15] <[LethAL] > !ot
[04:15] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, [LethAL]
[04:15] <Trashcan> html isn't programming :p
[04:15] <jjazz> I would like to disable all suspending and hibernation on this laptop, since it doesn't come back from sleeping.  How can I tell this box never to suspend or sleep (blanking the screen is ok, though)?
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> better tell the bot about it :O
[04:15] <[LethAL] > Damn... I wanted it to say Syntax error in line 1
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Trashcan
[04:15] <MaRcIo> is it safe to buy from hong kong sellers on ebay?
[04:15] <GNULinuxer> what is the time server of ubuntu?
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> MaRcIo: *thats* OT
[04:16] <Trashcan> nope- you buy a memory stick, and they sell you a child with no shoes
[04:16] <[LethAL] > GNULinuxer, ntp.ubuntulinux.org iirc
[04:16] <MaRcIo> ahah
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats right
[04:16] <GNULinuxer> [LethAL] : it's not up IMO
[04:16] <MaRcIo> if anybody want's to speak bout psp pls join # psp
[04:16] <Trashcan> lol
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, its not up (not pinging)
[04:16] <GNULinuxer> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah
[04:17] <MaRcIo> it is up..
[04:17] <GNULinuxer> Kamping_Kaiser: any other clock server?
[04:17] <MaRcIo> you should remove the space
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ntp.pool.org iirc
[04:17] <MaRcIo> how geek are u from 9 to 10?
[04:17] <[LethAL] > time.nist.gov
[04:17] <Trashcan> so who wants to reorder my boot process so that PCMCIA starts up before ntp? :D
[04:17] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: pool.ntp.org :-)
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks ccooke :D
[04:18] <MaRcIo> yeeeeeeeaaaaaaa it rains!!!!!
[04:18] <MaRcIo> so i won't go to basketball today!!
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> Trashcan: /etc/init.d/rc.d*/ - have fun :D
[04:18] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:18] <Seveas> MaRcIo, take off topic things elsewhere
[04:19] <MaRcIo> i tought [LethAL]  was havin fun
[04:19] <[LethAL] > I was?
[04:19] <MaRcIo> i think so
[04:19] <MaRcIo> u called me
[04:19] <[LethAL] > Oh yeah, I've played gltron a few times today :P
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> harsh
[04:21] <[LethAL] > ?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> changing my ntp servers
[04:21] <[LethAL] > Ah
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Where can you do that?
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Oh... nm
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/default/ntpdate
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, or time-admin :P
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> a gui? BLEH :p
[04:22] <[LethAL] > Somehow I don't think <IP_ADDRESS> is a read time server :S
[04:22] <Zeke1> how do u set up your IP address in a terminal
[04:22] <[LethAL] > real*
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: ifconfig
[04:23] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, sudo ifconfig <interfeace> ip
[04:23] <[LethAL] > interface*
[04:23] <doubleukay> test
[04:23] <doubleukay>  /etc/ntp.conf if you're using ntpd --> [04/10 00:21]  Kamping_Kaiser: changing my ntp servers
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta
[04:23] <doubleukay> that's the loopback clock driver --> Somehow I don't think <IP_ADDRESS> is a read time server :S
[04:24] <Zeke1> and your mask?
[04:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont bother, but just add it in after the ip
[04:24] <[LethAL] > <IP_ADDRESS> = loopback? Since when?
[04:25] <ccooke> [LethAL] : <IP_ADDRESS>/8 is loopback. Traditionally, <IP_ADDRESS> is brought up and assigned the hostname 'localhost'
[04:25] <doubleukay> [LethAL] , for NTPd, 127.127.x.y refers to the local clock drivers
[04:25] <doubleukay> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/refclock.html
[04:25] <ccooke> [LethAL] : but really the entire /8 is loopback IP space
[04:25] <[LethAL] > ccc_, I thought it was actually only 1 IP...
[04:25] <doubleukay> just a convention they use.
[04:25] <[LethAL] > ccooke*
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> so i could use the other loopback addys for stuff... .hm....
[04:26] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: sure. 16.7 milli of them.
[04:26] <doubleukay> uhh okay..
[04:26] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, whatever you do, make sure the starting IP is <IP_ADDRESS> :D
[04:26] <doubleukay> g'day and g'night.
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol doubleukay
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : :D if you insist
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> or i could make it '101' :D
[04:27] <[LethAL] > Or <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> or <IP_ADDRESS> :o
[04:27] <spola> heh
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> starts with 1 as well :)
[04:28] <[LethAL] > Or ::1/128 :D
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ipv6? :|
[04:28] <[LethAL] > Ya
[04:28] <[LethAL] > O.O
[04:29] <[LethAL] > My WLAN adapter's ipv6 addy disappeared :S
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> all evil maniacs should look *backwards* for inspiration
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> not forwards :\]
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> LMOA
[04:29] <[LethAL] > 9600 baud modems?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, forming clusters of comodore 64
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> s
[04:30] <[LethAL] > LOL
[04:30] <MikeCamel> Hi, all.  Weird problem.  Just noticed that I can't get a GB pound sign on my UK keyboards today.  Shift-3 just gives "3"
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> im good at this evil maniac thing ;)
[04:30] <[LethAL] > MikeCamel, System, Prefences, Keyboard
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. someone on the email list had this issue, but i dont remember how he fixed it :(
[04:31] <slibs> maybe you guys can tell me, does my ubuntu use .xinitrc or .xsession?
[04:31] <slibs> by default of course
[04:31] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I never did, I told setup that I had a UK keyboard :P
[04:31] <spola> is there anyway i can get my firefox bookmarks in the top gnome menu?
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> [LethAL] : i dont use a UK kebd :)
[04:31] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, no, but I do
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> slibs: .xsession iirc
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[04:31] <MikeCamel> LethAL - do I need to restart X?
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> spola: not that i know of
[04:32] <[LethAL] > MikeCamel, I don't think so
[04:32] <slibs> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks ;)
[04:32] <MikeCamel> I told setup I had a UK keyboard, and it's the only one listed.  I've now made it default.
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:32] <[LethAL] > Kamping_Kaiser, I use a MS inet keyboard :(
[04:32] <[LethAL] > lol
[04:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> one thing ms do right, kbds and rodents
[04:33] <[LethAL] > MS do rodents? :O
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh :O
[04:33] <[LethAL] > I like my BenQ rodent :P
[04:33] <[LethAL] > Has a tail though :(
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> tails are sexy :)
[04:33] <Zeke1> how do you set up your gateway ip in a terminal? :)
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: do you want these settings to stick?
[04:33] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, sudo route add default gw <ip>
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> or are they one off?
[04:34] <MikeCamel> doesn't seem to have helped.  still no pound sign.
[04:34] <[LethAL] >  :P
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:34] <MikeCamel> 333
[04:34] <[LethAL] >
[04:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> i should map a key, just to be mean :D
[04:34] <[LethAL] > That's with Alt-Gr... O.O
[04:34] <MikeCamel> might try restarting X.  anyway to do that without a restart?
[04:34] <[LethAL] > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace after logout
[04:34] <MikeCamel> cya
[04:35] <Zeke1> Kamping_Kaiser, what do u mean stick?
[04:35] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, When you reboot, they stay there
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Zeke1: after you reboot, do you want to use these settings again?
[04:35] <[LethAL] > ^^
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[04:36] <butcherbird> how do i get bash to treat ! as text and not a command?  if i do something like echo "#!/usr/bin/python" >> script.py. It will not work
[04:36] <ccooke> butcherbird: \!
[04:36] <kalyan> butherbird put it in single quotes
[04:36] <butcherbird> ccooke: ah thx
[04:36] <ccooke> ah, wait
[04:36] <ccooke> you need that line as the *very first thing* in your file
[04:37] <ccooke> and the file needs to be marked executable
[04:37] <gand> hi all
[04:37] <benkong2> hey isn't apt supposed to solve dependencies? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:37] <benkong2>  rubrica: Depends: libxslt1-python2.4 but it is not installable" is the error I get when trying to install Rubrica any thoughts?
[04:37] <ccooke> (chmod +x filename)
[04:37] <kennethlove> why do i get a ( when i type shift-8?
[04:37] <nalioth_wrkn> benkong2: use apt to build the file
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> benkong2: it will try and resolv deps
[04:38] <[LethAL] > kennethlove, because your keyboard is mapped incorrectly
[04:38] <Trashcan> was some major thing just released?
[04:38] <Trashcan> i have like 500 updates pending
[04:38] <kennethlove> [LethAL] : yeah, i guessed that. i did not change anything though.
[04:38] <Trashcan> from 5 minutes ago
[04:38] <benkong2> nalioth_wrkn; use apt to build the file?
[04:38] <Trashcan> 54 updates actually
[04:38] <Zeke1> Kamping_Kaiser,  no not really
[04:38] <benkong2> Kamping_Kaiser; thanks
[04:38] <[LethAL] > kennethlove, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace maybe :P
[04:39] <shad0w1e> when is the real breezy coming out??
[04:39] <Zeke1> ok one more question...how do i setup dhcp in a terminal....not a server
[04:39] <[LethAL] > shad0w1e, 13th
[04:39] <nalioth> benkong2: "sudo apt-get build-dep libxslt1-python2.4 && sudo apt-get -b source libxslt1-python2.4"
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> 13th
[04:39] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, you mean dhclient?
[04:39] <benkong2> nalioth; k
[04:39] <shad0w1e> [LethAL] , thanks!
[04:40] <Zeke1> [LethAL] , well yeah so my NIC obtains an IP from my dhcp server
[04:40] <gand> can I install Java SDK on PPC?
[04:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont like that keyboared changeing tool. i cant do custom key maps :(
[04:40] <nalioth> gand: yes
[04:40] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, that's what it does
[04:40] <gand> with apt get?
[04:40] <nalioth> gand: no. use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[04:40] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, just sudo dhclient and it'll try to get DHCPOFFER's
[04:40] <Zeke1> but i have an IP set up for my NIC manually how do i set it so it obtains ip from DHCP server
[04:41] <Zeke1> ok
[04:41] <gand> thank
[04:41] <[LethAL] > Zeke1, then you can change it in network-admin ;0
[04:41] <[LethAL] > ;)*
[04:41] <benkong2> nalioth; can my repos be incorrect? "E: Unable to find a source package for libxslt1-python2.4"
[04:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell benkong2 about sources
[04:42] <nalioth> benkong2: quite possibly yes
[04:42] <benkong2> nalioth; thanks
[04:42] <apokryphos> benkong2: hoary or breezy?
[04:43] <apokryphos> the one in hoary is a dummy, and I don't believe that version exists in breezy
[04:43] <benkong2> apokryphos; breezy
[04:43] <collins21> will ltsp be included in the breezy release or will that only be in edubuntu
[04:43] <Xmarcel> iam a beginner: how can i save the windowposition under kde?
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> collins21: a form of ltsp is included
[04:43] <collins21> and has anyone been successful in installing skype in breezy without it saying broken?
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Xmarcel: try #kubuntu, might have better luck
[04:43] <apokryphos> Xmarcel: alt+f3 -> Advanced -> Special window settings
[04:43] <collins21> where?
[04:44] <collins21> i installed the preview version last night
[04:44] <gand> thank nalioth, I need to install then Tomcat, I hope it will work
[04:44] <apokryphos> Xmarcel: or you can often use a --geometry option from command-line
[04:44] <Xmarcel> thx a lot ;-)
[04:46] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:46] <BiSK-8> Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.
[04:46] <BiSK-8> sorry
[04:46] <BiSK-8> i got a problem with amarok: when i go and select the engine it tells me: GStreamer is missing a registry.
[04:46] <BiSK-8> Please make sure that you have installed all necessary GStreamer plugins (e.g. OGG and MP3), and run 'gst-register' afterwards.
[04:46] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: well, do you have them?
[04:47] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: though I personally pretty much always use the xine engine
[04:47] <BiSK-8> no i dont
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> and are you running -64
[04:47] <BiSK-8> i dont know how to run gst-register
[04:48] <primoturbo> which package do I need to be able to compile c++
[04:48] <primoturbo> I need gcc/c++
[04:48] <BiSK-8> no
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> build-essentials
[04:48] <BiSK-8> exactly
[04:48] <BiSK-8> so
[04:48] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: /msg ubotu restricted
[04:48] <BiSK-8> apokryphos, what should i do?
[04:48] <collins21> also terminal seems to be awol in gnome menus in breezy
[04:48] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: that
[04:48] <nomed> i compiled the breezy kernel with gcc-3.4 but it seems i have still the same errors .. Unknown Symbol on modprobe module (eg: sbp2|ide-cd)
[04:49] <[LethAL] > collins21, it's in Applications
[04:49] <kennethlove> goddamn keyboard is still messed up.
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: if you reallly want to use the gstreamer engine, that is...
[04:49] <[LethAL] > Accesories*
[04:49] <BiSK-8> and how can i use other engines?
[04:49] <nalioth> what is the pkg called? nautilus-plugin- what?
[04:49] <nomed> i load the kernel with grub on a cdrom .. is it possible that those errors are related to System.map file ?
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: sudo aptitude install amarok-engines
[04:49] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:49] <BiSK-8> thx
[04:49] <inc|freaky> freestyle 4 ever :D
[04:49] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: I'm off for now; if you have more problems drop a line in #kubuntu and you'll probably get help
[04:49] <primoturbo> thnx getting the c++ now
[04:49] <bob2> nomed: that probably means you're trying to load modules built for the actual ubuntu kernel
[04:49] <bob2> nomed: also, the ubuntu kernel includes usplash
[04:49] <BiSK-8> thx alot guys
[04:50] <BiSK-8> and
[04:50] <primoturbo> does anyone know where I can get libSDL from
[04:50] <BiSK-8> another question
[04:50] <primoturbo> is there a package for libSDL
[04:50] <primoturbo> or SDL
[04:50] <BiSK-8> when will breezy be considered stable?
[04:50] <nomed> bob2, i'm waiting for breezy release to use usplash
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> 13th
[04:50] <bob2> primoturbo: er, of course
[04:50] <bob2> primoturbo: apt-cache search libsdl
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> or the week after, when the patches com in ;)
[04:51] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:51] <BiSK-8> perfect
[04:51] <zAo^> how do I remove my Gnome-settings? (eg. theme)
[04:51] <kennethlove> anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:51] <BiSK-8> and to update to the stable version from the beta version what must i do?
[04:51] <kennethlove> ( for *
[04:51] <bob2> BiSK-8: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:51] <bob2> nomed: waiting 9 days seems like a lot less hassle
[04:52] <BiSK-8> ok
[04:52] <BiSK-8> and how can i make amarok my default media player?
[04:52] <collins21> never mind re terminal - figured it out :)
[04:52] <Tellarite> I'm using "checkinstall" ... anyone ever seen this error? package architecture (x86_64) does not match system (amd64)
[04:53] <No1Viking> !tell me about breezy
[04:53] <BiSK-8> argh
[04:53] <zAo^> anyone know how I reset my Gnome-settings to default?
[04:53] <BiSK-8> amarok wont play any files
[04:53] <bob2> BiSK-8: #kubuntu
[04:53] <BiSK-8> kubuntu?
[04:53] <BiSK-8> why?
[04:54] <BiSK-8> im on gnome
[04:54] <bob2> awesome
[04:54] <kennethlove> amarok is a kde app, thought.
[04:54] <kennethlove> (though)
[04:54] <BiSK-8> argh
[04:54] <BiSK-8> but it will wok on gnome right?
[04:54] <kennethlove> so long as you have the kde libraries installed, yes.
[04:54] <[LethAL] > BiSK-8, it will work, just won't look nice
[04:55] <BiSK-8> i c
[04:55] <nomed> bob2, CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2=m .. and with modprobe sbp2 i have the Symbol Unknow error .. do you know what can it be?
[04:56] <bob2> nomed: this sounds like you're just not building the kernel properly
[04:57] <scorpix_> i can't upgrade/run firefox, i got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GdZXha42.htm
[04:57] <scorpix_> in Hoary
[04:58] <poningru> I had a question
[04:58] <poningru> why is xpdf the default instead of evince?
[04:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> poningru: it is not in breezy iirc
[04:58] <ccooke> poningru: evince is the default in Breezy
[04:58] <poningru> awesome
[04:59] <poningru> cause I just installed evince and got preview and loads faster too
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> or, sorry, i got that wrong " its not in HOARY iirc"
[04:59] <bob2> nomed: make sure you're setting a suffix with make-kpkg
[04:59] <tombs> hi ppl
[04:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:00] <kennethlove> anyone have any idea why my keyboard layout would be screwed up? i'm using synergy2 to share a keyboard. the connected one works fine but the shared one doesn't.
[05:01] <kennethlove> shared one turns * into ( and other weirdness.
[05:01] <LootBeer> why is it that i configre,make,installed xcdroast... but when i launch it it gives me error msgs?
[05:01] <nomed> bob2 make-kpkg kernel_image (/usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.4 )
[05:01] <kennethlove> and it has been working fine until today.
[05:01] <bob2> nomed: what?
[05:01] <bob2> nomed: --append-to-version
[05:01] <nomed> bob2, the cmd i use to generate the kernel deb pkge
[05:01] <nomed> ok
[05:03] <Hendric> how do i reconfigure the kernel (i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)???
[05:04] <nomed> bob2, what can it change if i use nomed: --append-to-version ? :/
[05:04] <robbkidd> Now, here's an odd occurance:  using the Badger, lowercase, italic "r" does not italicize in Firefox.  Specifically, I see this on Slashdot in the main page story summaries.
[05:05] <p0windah> robbkidd: fonts ?
[05:05] <robbkidd> Standby, checking.
[05:05] <robbkidd> The system default: "sans".
[05:06] <Hendric> how do i reconfigure the kernel??? (coz i plugged my ubuntu hardrive on another PC)
[05:06] <robbkidd> Checking other applications ...
[05:06] <p0windah> robbkidd: could also be an encoding issue
[05:07] <kalyan> I keep getting unauthenticated packages when i try to do upgrade for breezy
[05:07] <kennethlove> no ideas on my keyboard issue?
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hendric: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image ? nfi tbh
[05:07] <collins21> odd i see the packages for ltsp on the archives but I don't see it install on the system?  any ideas?
[05:07] <robbkidd> p0windah: Could be.  Only seems to be happening in Firefox.  I'll see if I can find an italicized lowercase r on another site.
[05:07] <yor> Question: I have recently installed Breezy. I have a USB2.0 mp3 player, but my very old PC has usb 1.1. But transfering files is EXTREMELY fast! It is unbelieveable. What has happened? I have never seen USB 1.1 work this great ever!
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> collins21: its not part of a default install
[05:08] <tritium> Hendric: what are you wanting to reconfigure, specifically?
[05:08] <VeRiTTo> HI
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:08] <VeRiTTo> Anybody speak spanish?
[05:08] <collins21> ok...
[05:08] <vitriol> anybody know of any good e17 repositories for breezy?
[05:08] <Hendric> everything for the new hardware
[05:08] <kalyan> guys any idea to get rid of unauthenticated packages for dist-upgrade in breezy badger?
[05:08] <clast> anyone using gnucash on breezy?
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: dont think so
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think they all got banished to the -es chan ;)
[05:08] <[LethAL] > VeRiTTo, the people in #ubuntu-es do
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay. i beat [LethAL]  for once :D
[05:09] <VeRiTTo> Thanks
[05:09] <[LethAL] > :(
[05:09] <LootBeer> hows ubuntu better than debian??
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> smaller install
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> running quicker
[05:09] <[LethAL] > LootBeer, Less coffe mats
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: wrong question.
[05:09] <[LethAL] > coffee mats*
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: It's not. It's just different
[05:09] <tritium> Hendric: you don't need to reconfigure the kernel.  If you're using a stock ubuntu kernel, the appropriate modules will be loaded.  Is there a problem/
[05:09] <yor> Has some genius figured out a way to emulate USB2.0 with USB1.1? I can transfer 80 megs in a few seconds with Breezy
[05:09] <VeRiTTo> NObody answer me
[05:09] <tritium> ?
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> LootBeer: they both have their places
[05:09] <ccooke> LootBeer: If you want a desktop environment, Ubuntu is better.
[05:10] <VeRiTTo> Help me please
[05:10] <ccooke> if you want a server, Debian is better.
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: i doubt it, but its possible. i expect its the cacheing
[05:10] <p0windah> LootBeer: you still around ?
[05:10] <LootBeer> i do.. but im only running 233mhz , 64mb ram pc
[05:10] <Valo> has there been any recent issues with sudo?
[05:10] <robbkidd> p0windah: Happens at other sites, too.
[05:10] <VeRiTTo> I will try to tell you my problem
[05:10] <tritium> ccooke: that's your opinion, of course
[05:10] <yaaar> word
[05:10] <yaaar> can anybody enlighten me on the benefits of using nfs vs samba? i only have linux machines here....but on the other hand, i've never used nfs
[05:10] <yaaar> also, is there a third alternative i should be considering? i'm hoping to share a 1.2TB raid
[05:10] <ccooke> tritium: whose else would it be?
[05:10] <Hendric> tritium, my DVD, CDRW drives on the previous pc are still shown as existing even if its false on the new PC.
[05:11] <MikeCamel> still having problems with pound signs, even after reboot.  anyeon?
[05:11] <ccooke> tritium: You disagree with me?
[05:11] <p0windah> robbkidd: check fonts installed, your locale settings and also have a look at what defaults encodings firefox is guessing for you
[05:11] <nalioth> yaaar: nfs is a *nix standard and is fairly bulletproof
[05:11] <VeRiTTo> I have to install vsftpd in my pc, but my pc is not on internet
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yaaar: use nfs, its native
[05:11] <tritium> ccooke: I didn't say it would be someone elses.  The point is that it's arguable.
[05:11] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, I have unmounted the volume right after transferring. There is no lag at all. It works as fast as USB2.0 does on the computer of a friend of mine. I have never seen anything like it. In Hoary it was extremely slow (and in WinXP as well)...
[05:11] <robbkidd> p0windah: Do you not see the same thing?
[05:11] <nalioth> yaaar: samba is a condesension to windowd standards
[05:11] <twoctseven> Okay, I have not been able to get sound at all. Nothing when I login
[05:11] <twoctseven> Cannot play .wav files or mp3 files. I have installed all of the media codecs as directed in the unoffical guide
[05:11] <twoctseven> The machine i'm using is a laptop,
[05:11] <twoctseven> The choices of devices I have are: Inel-82801DB-ICH4 (Asla Mixer)
[05:11] <twoctseven> Analog Device AD1981B (OSS Mixer)
[05:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: spose your lucky :)
[05:11] <twoctseven> I have tried with both devices and none worked for some reason.
[05:11] <clast> anyone using gnucash on breezy?
[05:11] <twoctseven> I have no idea why this is happening, I have done everything the Unnofical FAQ said to do to "Fix Sound" I would appericate any sort of help for this, THanks.
[05:11] <tritium> Hendric: what do you have listed in /etc/fstab?
[05:11] <ccooke> tritium: of course it is. Who said it wasn't?
[05:12] <Pelalil> Has anyone got a good way to store essid and wep key pairs in /etc/network/interfaces, so that it just work without any extra mapping scripts, (atm i have various pairs commented, and when needed, i uncomment the right one)
[05:12] <Quinthius> twoctseven: spamming is bad.
[05:12] <p0windah> robbkidd: I'm not in ubuntu right now, but I've similar problems in the past with eng+chinese machines I've setup
[05:12] <twoctseven> spam is the output of worthless information.
[05:12] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, yep, it is really great! I just wanted to know if anyone has heard of a USB tweak implemented in Breezy. I am SOOO glad I ditched windows for Ubuntu ;)
[05:12] <poningru> twoctseven: have you tried the official faq?
[05:12] <twoctseven> yes
[05:12] <chapeaurouge> Pelalil, tried wifi-radar ?
[05:12] <yaaar> nalioth; yeah, i knew that much.......but i've also used samba a lot of times and found it to be "bulletproof" as well. are there benchmarks anyplace or anything like that? is one of them demonstrably higher performance?
[05:12] <poningru> !tell twoctseven about sound
[05:12] <twoctseven> I have tried the fix sound thing on the unoffical FAQ
[05:12] <Quinthius> twoctseven: spam is also 7 lines of text in less than 2 seconds
[05:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> yor: :D i almost wish i had some usb things to try with :)
[05:12] <twoctseven> i've trid that already, poniguru
[05:12] <tritium> ccooke: relax.  I merely commented on your statement.
[05:12] <poningru> twoctseven: ic
[05:13] <sepmike> anyone tried a ga311 with breezy?
[05:13] <ccooke> tritium: fair enough
[05:13] <Pelalil> chapeaurouge: nope, ill give it a look, thanks
[05:13] <VeRiTTo> [Kamping_Kaiser]  read me
[05:13] <primoturbo> how can I set my desktop to be 8bit color?
[05:13] <primoturbo> any ideas?
[05:13] <sepmike> I'm having speed issues
[05:13] <Hendric> tritium, it shows my non existent drives
[05:13] <tritium> Hendric: that's your problem, not the kernel
[05:13] <butcherbird> VeRiTTo: you could always just download the binary or source.  vsftpd is a pretty painless install
[05:13] <robbkidd> p0windah: Alrightie.  You suggest just changing the default to see what happens?  My default is en-us with encoding set to 8859-1.  Seems right to me.
[05:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: whats that?
[05:13] <p0windah> spent a little time this evening looking at some of the luminocity stuff and noticed its already in the breezy roadmap... very exciting
[05:13] <primoturbo> guys where do I edit the color depth of my monitor?
[05:14] <primoturbo> I need to do this for this http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[05:14] <tritium> primoturbo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> xorg.conf iirc
[05:14] <p0windah> robbkidd: if its 8859, try switching to UTF-8
[05:14] <yor> Kamping_Kaiser, do try if you have the chance. You will be surprised I am sure. I am running Ubuntu on a PC I built seven years ago. It may work even better on newer hardware :)
[05:14] <Hendric> tritium, so reconfiguring the kernel won't fix it?
[05:14] <tritium> primoturbo: which, in turn, edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[05:14] <primoturbo> I see
[05:14] <primoturbo> thnx
[05:14] <VeRiTTo> vsftpd -->> Very Security ftp Daemon
[05:14] <tritium> but you don't typically want to edit that by hand.  use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <VeRiTTo> My pc is not on internet
[05:14] <tritium> Hendric: edit /etc/fstab
[05:14] <zAo^> update-notifier uses 35% cpu; is this normal??
[05:14] <Hendric> tritium, ok ok
[05:15] <p0windah> zAo^: only if you want to be
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: you cant connect from the outside?
[05:15] <Gnuclear> i cant boot using this CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso"- is it the wrong one?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Gnuclear: did you burn it bootable?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> its the right one
[05:15] <p0windah> Gnuclear: that should boot, you double checked bios and also tried it on another PC with different CD drive ?
[05:15] <Gnuclear> you mean burn as ISO right?
[05:15] <p0windah> heh
[05:16] <KlinkMeister> Is there an easy way to install themes it seems really complicated
[05:16] <abarbaccia> hey - anybody here use audacity without it crashing on them?
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> yours p0windah
[05:16] <Valo> Why does sudo fail to do anything (ie. "sudo touch cookie") but gksu works (ie. "gksu touch cookie") :/
[05:16] <p0windah> KlinkMeister: synaptic is the easiest way right now
[05:16] <Quinthius> KlinkMeister: what's complicated about extracting a theme to /usr/share/themes or ~/.themes?
[05:16] <KlinkMeister> cant get them to work
[05:16] <Hendric>  tritium, why is that when i open "Network Servers" it asks me for a password on a given domain blah blah.. i didn't set any.. and the only PC i can browse are the ones with windows.. am using samba.
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> I download package for vsftpd but
[05:16] <Darknight> hello
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Darknight
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> root@veritto:/ # apt-get install vsftpd
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> Reading package lists... Done
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:16] <VeRiTTo> E: Couldn't find package vsftpd
[05:17] <leroj> i though you installed themes by dragging the .tar's and dropping them in the theme window...
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> That is the problem
[05:17] <nalioth> VeRiTTo: do not paste in here
[05:17] <robbkidd> p0windah: I've switched to a few different Western encodings, with no change.  If I change Firefox's sans font to something other that the system's "sans" (like Arial), r's italicize appropriately.
[05:17] <Darknight> anyone here know what to do to setup prolink tv tuner in breezy?
[05:17] <butcherbird> KlinkMeister: art.gnome.org has a pretty strait forward faq
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok VeRiTTo
[05:17] <nalioth> VeRiTTo: use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> [nalioth]  sorry
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> ups
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you apt-get update first does it help?
[05:17] <primoturbo> okay I edited xorg.conf how do I make my computer use it?
[05:17] <VeRiTTo> I didn't know it
[05:17] <primoturbo> how do I restart it so I use 8bits
[05:18] <p0windah> robbkidd: I guess the quickest way to check if its firefox being silly is; copying some text from firefox into openoffice or gedit
[05:18] <Quinthius> primoturbo: log out, then hit ctrl-alt-F1 and login at the console, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:18] <tritium> Hendric: hard to say
[05:18] <primoturbo> what does the last line do
[05:18] <paulproteus> primoturbo: Restart gdm.
[05:18] <paulproteus> From a a terminal, do : /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:18] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history?
[05:18] <robbkidd> p0windah: The system font "sans" doesn't seem to be available in OpenOffice.
[05:18] <paulproteus> Answer: Press <UP> on the keyboard.
[05:18] <yaaar> primoturbo: or, quick/dirty way, just hit ctrl-alt-backspc
[05:18] <Quinthius> paulproteus: why stop and start instead of restart?
[05:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> VeRiTTo: run 'apt-get update && apt-get install vsftpd' without the 's
[05:19] <p0windah> robbkidd: thats abnormal
[05:19] <benkong2> what are the disadvantages to running the hoary backports repos in breezy sources.list?
[05:19] <paulproteus> Quinthius: That way I get to see a little bit more output.
[05:19] <robbkidd> p0wnidah: Abnormal is fun.
[05:19] <Answer> paulproteus: How can I do that from a shell script?
[05:19] <paulproteus> Answer: Oh.
[05:19] <p0windah> no, unusual is fun
[05:19] <Quinthius> yaaar: that way isn't very elegant and i don't think it gives programs a chance to close properly..
[05:19] <paulproteus> Answer: I don't know, I'm afraid.
[05:20] <yaaar> Answer: you don't want to do that. your history changes all the time, so you don't want to write a script expecting something in particular to be in the history buffer
[05:20] <yaaar> Quinthius: you'll note I said "quick/dirty" right?
[05:20] <Answer> yaaar: I do want to do that.  How do I get the last command issued ?
[05:21] <kennethlove> *sigh* anyone have any ideas on my keyboard problems?
[05:21] <Gnuclear> yeah, Kamping_Kaiser - wasted 4 cds already...and i burnt it as ISO
[05:21] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history?
[05:21] <Nermal> up arrow
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> up key
[05:21] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow
[05:22] <p0windah> press up twice, down once, left once, up three times, then down twice
[05:22] <kafeine> why can't I find wxpython in the breezy repos?
[05:22] <Nermal> tail -n ~/.bash_history
[05:22] <Quinthius> Answer: man bash
[05:22] <dreamwave> Answer, !!
[05:22] <Nermal> tail -n 1 ~/.bash_history
[05:22] <VeRiTTo> I come back, thanks
[05:22] <Gnuclear> after downloading, how can i check whether it downloaded properly...am using windows...there's an md5sumcheck thingy right?
[05:22] <yaaar> up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a,start
[05:22] <kennethlove> up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, a, b, select, start
[05:22] <egoleo> check ur bash_history
[05:22] <yaaar> kennethlove: beat ya
[05:22] <yaaar> !
[05:22] <ubotu> No idea, yaaar
[05:22] <kennethlove> yaaar: so.
[05:22] <Answer> Nermal:  .bash_history does not appear to have all the commands.
[05:22] <[LethAL] > O.o
[05:22] <Nermal> Answer: not surprised
[05:22] <yaaar> hehe
[05:22] <kennethlove> :)
[05:23] <dreamwave> Answer, i think it gets updated when you exit the shell
[05:23] <p0windah> Answer: it gets updated when you close your session
[05:23] <yaaar> Answer: it probably won't contain *any* of the commands run from scripts
[05:23] <Answer> Question: How do I get the last command issued from the history, from a shell script, without using UP Arrow or .bash_history?
[05:23] <Hendric> can anyone help me on wat to use to share files between my ubuntu PCs.. that works like windows net neighborhood..
[05:23] <ccooke> Answer: what is the problem you're trying to solve?
[05:24] <nalioth> Hendric: use NFS
[05:24] <Hendric> i can't seem to see other linux PC using samba..
[05:24] <ccooke> Answer: you can get the last thing *typed* - history | tail -1
[05:24] <[LethAL] > !nfs
[05:24] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:24] <nalioth> Hendric: samba is for lookin at windows boxen
[05:24] <Quinthius> Answer: !! as someone already said. there is also a history command. man bash.
[05:24] <Answer> ccooke:  When users issue certain commands I want to capture them instead of executing, with something like an alias that runs a script
[05:24] <[LethAL] > Hendric, those two links ^^
[05:24] <p0windah> Hendric: type in a terminal "set"
[05:24] <ccooke> Answer: ... capture them?
[05:24] <yaaar> Answer: 1)we have all seen your question. no need to repeat yourself so much. 2)we don't know how to go about that, because no one ever wants to do that. 3)you probably want to do something different.
[05:24] <Hendric> i'll try..
[05:25] <[LethAL] > ccooke, log I think
[05:25] <ccooke> Answer: you want to make certain commands do something else, basically?
[05:25] <Answer> yaaar: You are not being helpful.
[05:25] <kafeine> nalioth, and why not use it for connecting x boxes?
[05:25] <Answer> ccooke: Yes, to intercept potentially harmful commands like rm *
[05:25] <yaaar> Answer: you are being annoying.
[05:25] <[LethAL] > kafeine, being nfs is better
[05:25] <[LethAL] > because*
[05:25] <ccooke> Answer: what would you want to do with them, afterwards?
[05:25] <ccooke> An	do you want to run the command after logging it?
[05:25] <nalioth> kafeine: because smb is a windows protocol, and NFS is a *nix protocol
[05:26] <kennethlove> still looking for help with my keyboard.
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke: No, email it to an administrator with whoami and date
[05:26] <kafeine> khm
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke: and pwd also
[05:26] <kafeine> that's not exactly a reason..
[05:26] <nalioth> kafeine: windows = unstable and crappy *nix = 30 + years of stability
[05:26] <p0windah> does he know about user and group level security ?
[05:26] <ccooke> Answer: okay. The simplest answer is "you can't"
[05:26] <yaaar> Answer: in that case you probably just want to continuously grep everyone's histories.
[05:26] <p0windah> maybe he thinks this is windows and anyone can do anything to the filesystem they want...
[05:26] <ccooke> yaaar: does no good.
[05:26] <yaaar> Answer: or grep "ps waux"
[05:26] <yaaar> ccooke: why not?
[05:26] <Answer> ccooke:  It is easy to alias rm to run a script that executes various commands, I just want to capture the command the user entered in that script.
[05:26] <kafeine> i get the idea, yes, still, smb works rather nice between all kinds of boxes
[05:27] <Darknight> nobody knows about tv tuners in breezy?
[05:27] <ccooke> yaar: start a shell. type "echo This". type kill -9 $$.
[05:27] <tritium> Darknight: what about them/
[05:27] <kafeine> and you don't have to set up the connection twice if you accidentally need to share with with a win box
[05:27] <ccooke> yaaar: start a second shell. Look for 'echo This' ion the history. You won't find it.
[05:27] <tritium> damn flaky shift key...
[05:27] <Quinthius> Answer: can't you use $0, $1, etc. to refer to arguments passed to a script?
[05:27] <Darknight> tritium, i dont know what to do to setup my prolink
[05:27] <yaaar> ccooke: saying "it won't work in every case" is not the same as saying "it's useless"
[05:27] <p0windah> Answer: so rename the rm binary, write your own rm script and be done with it
[05:27] <nalioth> kafeine: nfs is simpler, requires no extra software
[05:28] <ccooke> yaaar: it's trivially circumvented requiring no effort.
[05:28] <Hendric> done with NFS.. but it transfer files so slow.. upto 32kbps.. to slow for a 678MB iso
[05:28] <tritium> Darknight: is there a driver for that card?  I've not heard of it.
[05:28] <Darknight> tritium, I knew how to do it in suse and modprobe but here i'm stucked
[05:28] <herbie53> is this the ubuntu technical support channel?
[05:28] <p0windah> herbie53: we try
[05:28] <tritium> yes, herbie53
[05:28] <ccooke> so, it's not useless, but the precaution fails by default.
[05:28] <Answer> p0windah: That is a good suggestion to rename the rm binary...
[05:28] <herbie53> good
[05:28] <Darknight> tritium, this is typical bttv878 card
[05:28] <ccooke> Answer: okay. you can get the parameters of a script with "${@}" inside it.
[05:28] <tritium> Darknight: is that module loaded now?
[05:28] <herbie53> i installed ubuntu the other day and when i try and access the add/remove programs
[05:28] <p0windah> Answer: although that wont prevent people from using it
[05:29] <yaaar> ccooke: the goal of this project appears to be keeping track of people's stupid mistakes, not keeping track of malicious behavior. in any case, this is a dumb way to go about it anyway
[05:29] <ccooke> Answer: but I think you should probably look at a restricted shell.
[05:29] <Darknight> tritium, how to check it?
[05:29] <herbie53> it comes up with a password box
[05:29] <tritium> Darknight: lsmod | grep bttv
[05:29] <tritium> herbie53: give it your password
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> herbie53: the user created during install
[05:29] <Answer> ccooke: Yes I can get the script arguments, but the alias script wasn't getting the original command as an argument, so I wanted it from history.  I think renaming the rm binary will work
[05:30] <herbie53> i type my password and then it says child terminated with 1 status even when i enter my password or the administrator password
[05:30] <Quinthius> Answer: are you just wanting to prevent people from rm'ing stuff carelessly? if so, why not just alias rm to rm -i, or rename rm and make a new rm that runs real.rm -i
[05:30] <Darknight> tritium, looks like everything is loaded
[05:30] <tritium> herbie53: which administator password?  The root account is disabled by default.
[05:30] <ccooke> Answer: it will, as long as nobody finds out what rm has been renamed to :-)
[05:30] <tritium> Darknight: good deal
[05:30] <shekhar> can someone help me?
[05:30] <[LethAL] > herbie53, open a terminal and try sudo -i
[05:30] <herbie53> when i was setting up ubuntu it asked me to set a root password which i set
[05:30] <tritium> shekhar: go ahead and ask
[05:30] <Darknight> tritium, wait, could I paste u listing?
[05:30] <p0windah> ccooke: its air-tight
[05:31] <tritium> herbie53: no, ubuntu does not do that
[05:31] <herbie53> i have tried that password in the box to no avail
[05:31] <nalioth> Darknight: in a pastebin
[05:31] <Darknight> tritium, dont know if everything is ok
[05:31] <herbie53> oh well the admin account im not sure
[05:31] <tritium> !tell herbie53 about rootsudo
[05:31] <Answer> Quinthius: I want to prevent careless rms, but I also want to generate an email with the user, the command, the path, timestamp, etc.
[05:31] <Darknight> nalioth, ?
[05:31] <ccooke> p0windah: how do you get that?
[05:31] <Darknight> nalioth, howto?
[05:31] <p0windah> oops sorry
[05:31] <nalioth> !pastebin
[05:31] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:31] <[LethAL] > herbie53, did you do expert install?
[05:31] <herbie53> yes
[05:31] <p0windah> ccooke: its air-tight </sarcasm>
[05:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Answer: turn up your sysloging
[05:31] <shekhar> tritium:  whenever i logout from the system menu, my session gets saved rather than restarting or shutting down, even if i choose not to save session
[05:31] <Answer> herbie53:  It's probably asking for the password of the current user, not the root pw
[05:31] <[LethAL] > herbie53, su -
[05:31] <abarbaccia> how do i use bluetooth?
[05:31] <ccooke> p0windah: ah. Better.
[05:31] <herbie53> i have tried both
[05:32] <tritium> shekhar: there's a preference that you might have accidentally set
[05:32] <[LethAL] > herbie53, "su -" will ask for root pwd
[05:32] <herbie53> what do you mean?
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> herbie53: you must have got the password wrong :\
[05:32] <[LethAL] > herbie53, in a terminal
[05:32] <herbie53> i guess so
[05:32] <herbie53> do you know how i can change it?
[05:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> su asks for root password, sudo asks for your user password
[05:32] <herbie53> ok
[05:32] <herbie53> how do you do sudo?
[05:32] <Answer> herbie53:  In a terminal type   sudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[05:33] <Answer> see if it launches
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> boot single user, as long as root is off, you can reset passwords there
[05:33] <p0windah> open up a terminal and type "sudo -s", then type in your password, then type "passwd root"
[05:33] <[LethAL] > Answer, he did expert install, which doesn't setup sudo properly
[05:33] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: there are ways even if that works :-)
[05:33] <herbie53> oh
[05:33] <p0windah> then enter in whatever you want roots password to be
[05:33] <shekhar> tritium:  i have played around with sessions prefs to change this, but no luck... any ideas?
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) init=/bin/sh
[05:33] <p0windah> herbie53: remember, you are the master of your domain
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sbin
[05:33] <benkong2> !info rubrica
[05:33] <ubotu> rubrica: (An addressbook for the GNOME desktop), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.12-4ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 360 kB, Installed size: 1252 kB
[05:33] <DrTiger> hi! I have a big problem with my cd writer..
[05:33] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: indeed.
[05:33] <tritium> shekhar: if it's not your sessions preferences, then no, I don't.  Sorry...
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> love it
[05:34] <abarbaccia> i need someone to explain how i connect my phone to my computer via bluetooth - the dongle is found - i just dont have any utilities to use?
[05:34] <ccooke> Kamping_Kaiser: replacing init with a shell script can get you some interesting effects
[05:34] <p0windah> if you dont master your own domain, someone else most certainly will
[05:34] <herbie53> i have opened the sudo program in terminal and it says password
[05:34] <herbie53> do i enter my user password?
[05:34] <[LethAL] > yes
[05:34] <DrTiger> uder windows I can burn fine, but in ubuntu I have not yet managed  to write a cd that is readible
[05:34] <p0windah> herbie53: just type in your normal password
[05:34] <herbie53> ok
[05:34] <herbie53> i will try it
[05:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ccooke: i have used it onece, to reset a root password, and it worked
[05:34] <Darknight> tritium, its in pastebin now
[05:34] <ccooke> abarbaccia: what happens if you type "hcitool scan" ?
[05:34] <abarbaccia> its scanning
[05:34] <herbie53> i typed in the password and the program closed
[05:34] <DrTiger> there is no error during burning...
[05:35] <[LethAL] > DrTiger, does it go preparing... done (very quickly)?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: if there was no error, it worked
[05:35] <DrTiger> no
[05:35] <_jason>  if i press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal how do i get back to X?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: the terminal is still open I assume ?
[05:35] <[LethAL] > _jason, Ctrl-alt F7
[05:35] <abarbaccia> ccooke, it found my phone
[05:35] <HiddenFly> when i do make when installing downloader for x, i get errors showed in here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2742 how can i fix this?
[05:35] <herbie53> no terminal closed when i hit enter
[05:35] <_jason> [LethAL] :  thanks
[05:35] <herbie53> after typing password
[05:35] <kennethlove> gareahge!!!1
[05:35] <abarbaccia> ccooke, is there a gui tool i could use because i'm lazy right now
[05:35] <tritium> Darknight: can you put it in #flood please?
[05:35] <p0windah> herbie53: go into accessories and click on terminal
[05:35] <ccooke> abarbaccia: I've not found one in ubuntu, but there probably is.
[05:36] <herbie53> applications>accessories>terminal?
[05:36] <herbie53> terminal is not in that menu
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: why are you installing from source? i dont think i saw an answer :\
[05:36] <Quinthius> herbie53: system tools if using hoary
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hello
[05:36] <herbie53> i did applications>run application
[05:36] <herbie53> oh right ok
[05:36] <fgr> hello, i have w32codecs and mp3 support ( i can listen with xmms), but both gnomebaker and serpentine can't read mp3. what do i have to do?
[05:36] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: im installing from source cos i couldnt find it from apt-get
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi ubuntu_adiktus
[05:36] <shekhar> tritium:  i believe that this is a bug with ubuntu... i cannot logout on the first try from system menu
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> hello
[05:36] <ubuntu_adiktus> kamping
[05:37] <herbie53> terminal is open
[05:37] <herbie53> what do i do now?
[05:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: what went wrong with apt?
[05:37] <p0windah> type "
[05:37] <Quinthius> herbie53: sudo <command>
[05:37] <p0windah> type "sudo -s"
[05:37] <tritium> shekhar: the reason I doubt that is that you're the only one that's experienced it
[05:37] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: i couldnt find that program from it
[05:37] <ubuntu_adiktus> as of now im installing ubuntu for the first time so far i have no problem
[05:37] <herbie53> ok
[05:37] <shekhar> tritium: what could be the problem? i have been trying to figure this out for weeks, it's incredibly annoying that i cannot logout my system!
[05:37] <p0windah> herbie53: now type "passwd root"
[05:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> HiddenFly: its in universe
[05:38] <HiddenFly> Kamping_Kaiser: ok, ill recheck my repos
[05:38] <ubuntu_adiktus> does ubuntu have support for online games like MU Online and Gunbound??
[05:38] <tritium> shekhar: don't know. That sounds very obscure
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck hF
[05:38] <fgr> i need a GUI to burn cdaudio from mp3
[05:38] <FhaeTon> good morning
[05:38] <herbie53> where do i type passwd root?
[05:38] <FhaeTon> is anyone free to help me
[05:39] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: not unless those games have linux versions. you may have limited success using an emulator such as Cedega though
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: answer my messages you mung-bean so I can walk you through this
[05:39] <simbo> hi there
[05:39] <herbie53> i did
[05:39] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, gunbound won't work because of gameguard. same with MU.
[05:39] <FhaeTon> hello
[05:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> thanks
[05:39] <herbie53> on the private chat?
[05:39] <FhaeTon> can I get some help
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: I assure you, the channel hates reading my spam as much as I hate typing it
[05:39] <tritium> FhaeTon: ask here in the channel
[05:39] <herbie53> ok
[05:39] <p0windah> herbie53: yes, that one
[05:39] <adrian_> hi, how I can check the size of folders in, for example /home/mike ?
[05:39] <tore_> How can I make my charset-configuration be global?
[05:39] <FhaeTon> Ok
[05:39] <ubuntu_adiktus> how about yahoo messenger?
[05:40] <tore_> It wont work in aterm and such
[05:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu_adiktus: serveral chat apps do yahoo. gaim for example
[05:40] <FhaeTon> I got the Ubuntu installed but when it goes to start up the grub is saying loading but nothing happens
[05:40] <simbo> herbie: type ctrl-alt-f5, typ it in there.
[05:40] <Quinthius> adrian_: du -sh /home/mike
[05:40] <FhaeTon> Grub 1.5
[05:40] <adrian_> thanks
[05:40] <FhaeTon> [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img]
[05:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. night night all
[05:41] <FhaeTon> my comp specs
[05:41] <FhaeTon> [img] http://homepage.mac.com/jymac/FhaeTon_sig.jpg[/img]
[05:41] <[LethAL] > So?
[05:41] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, gaim is a good client.. but i've tried YM using crossover... sadly only upto version 5.. new YMs with graphical GUIs won't work
[05:41] <p0windah> hahaha
[05:41] <p0windah> I love the flames!
[05:41] <FhaeTon> thx
[05:42] <herbie53> hello could somebody help me
[05:42] <FhaeTon> anyone know a solution to grub loading
[05:42] <p0windah> sweet jesus
[05:42] <[LethAL] > !grub
[05:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:42] <herbie53> i cannot access the add/remove programs dialog
[05:42] <abarbaccia> ccooke, how does this hcitool work - i connected to my device - now how do i transfer a file?
[05:42] <p0windah> herbie53: answer my /msg alice!
[05:42] <herbie53> i did
[05:43] <herbie53> hav a look
[05:43] <p0windah> you didnt..
[05:43] <herbie53> i did
[05:43] <herbie53> on the private chat?
[05:43] <p0windah> did you type /MSG p0windah YOU ARE MY SEX GOD !
[05:43] <p0windah> I dont think you did..
[05:43] <herbie53> no
[05:43] <fgr> what do i need to add mp3 support in gnomebaker?
[05:43] <p0windah> so type it already..
[05:43] <tritium> p0windah: please keep on topic
[05:43] <p0windah> I'm trying to help the guy
[05:43] <simbo> <newbie question alert> is the Breezy Colony 5 CD Image (as listed in the header of this channel) the final release? or will there be another release before the official release date...?
[05:44] <p0windah> he keeps asking the same asinine question over and over again
[05:44] <herbie53> and u aren't answering
[05:44] <herbie53> please help me
[05:44] <adrian_> Quinthius, how do that: I want a list of folders [in for example /home/mike]  with its sizes, and size of files that are in this folder ?
[05:44] <adrian_> [sorry for my english ;) ]
[05:44] <Quinthius> adrian_: you can do like: du -sh /home/mike/*
[05:45] <kennethlove> simbo: no, not exactly. but it will get breezy installed so you can update to the final through apt-get/synaptic. or you can just wait until the 13th or whenever.
[05:45] <FhaeTon> I'm not sure what to do with this
[05:45] <adrian_> thats it! thanks
[05:45] <simbo> kennethlove: ahh as I thought, Many thanks
[05:45] <[fC] KingKarl\aw> hi, how can I change my X-win resolution via the reqovery console?
[05:45] <p0windah> you try your best to help...
[05:45] <taomaster> any idea when the final release comes out?
[05:45] <kennethlove> simbo: no problem.
[05:46] <mopatop> taomaster: 13th
[05:46] <kennethlove> taomaster: i heard the 13th.
[05:46] <tritium> [fC] KingKarl\aw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <Quinthius> adrian_: you can also use the --max-depth option which will move down into the directory by the number of levels you specify. for example: du -h --max-depth=1 /home/mike, will print all directories directly under /home/mike
[05:47] <[fC] KingKarl\aw> tritium: thx I'll try
[05:47] <LeeColleton> I've found a printing bug in Breezy.  My HP PSC-1210 now prints black text in color.  Help?
[05:47] <ubuntu_adiktus> what is kubuntu??
[05:47] <Quinthius> adrian_: --max-depth=2 will print anything under /home/mike and anything under those directories also
[05:47] <[LethAL] > ubuntu_adiktus, It's Ubuntu with KDE rather than Gnome
[05:47] <ubuntu_adiktus> oh i see
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> my friend told me about it
[05:48] <p0windah> LeeColleton: hrmmm, double checked your printer settings arent on grey scale. I have a psc1200 and its printing and scanning fine
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> whats the best to use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:48] <adrian_> Quinthius: thanks, I will try
[05:48] <[LethAL] > ubuntu_adiktus, opinions...
[05:48] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: personal preference...
[05:48] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: whichever suits you best
[05:48] <Quinthius> ubuntu_adiktus: depends whether you like KDE or gnome better
[05:48] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, are you pinoy?
[05:48] <ubuntu_adiktus> opo
[05:48] <taomaster> i've had np with the install of this o/s
[05:48] <Belutz> i prefer gnome :D
[05:49] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, you hated the raid, aren't you?
[05:49] <Hendric> lolx
[05:49] <Belutz> or maybe later i'll xubuntu
[05:49] <ubuntu_adiktus> hahahaha yep i really did
[05:49] <LeeColleton> p0windah: are you using Breezy?
[05:49] <ubuntu_adiktus> puts my business upside down
[05:49] <p0windah> LeeColleton: yeah I am
[05:49] <FhaeTon> this is what i keep getting:
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hendric
[05:50] <FhaeTon> Grub Loading stage 1.5
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> can you help me?
[05:50] <Hendric> ah, better use ubuntu, get cedega and point2play, get crossover too.. helps alot
[05:50] <FhaeTon> Grub Loading, please wait....
[05:50] <p0windah> LeeColleton: you tried printing out the test page in the printer properties ?
[05:50] <zephyrmaster> Umm, why can't I install VLC? It says required dependencies can't be installed :-(
[05:50] <Hendric> online games worked fine the cedega.. except for nProtected ones...
[05:50] <ubuntu_adiktus> whats the browser in ubuntu?
[05:50] <FhaeTon> nothing happens its just stuck on that screen
[05:50] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: repositories ?
[05:51] <Hendric> online games worked fine with cedega.. except for nProtected ones...
[05:51] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, firefox
[05:51] <[LethAL] > That's better
[05:51] <tritium> ubuntu_adiktus: others are also available
[05:51] <Jakeass> Need help guys
[05:51] <zephyrmaster> I
[05:51] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[05:51] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:51] <zephyrmaster> I'm not sure with repository it's from
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> *which
[05:52] <[LethAL] > Jake, ask the people
[05:52] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: have you added multiverse and universe ? its probably you'll need stuff from them
[05:52] <ubuntu_adiktus> How about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> Okay, thanks, I'll check
[05:52] <zephyrmaster> I'm fairly sure I added them, but I might not have
[05:52] <p0windah> zephyrmaster: I think if you use the search on the ubuntu forums there would be a thread about how to install VLC and the exact respositories you need
[05:53] <dooglus> vlc is in universe.  it shouldn't have dependancies in multiverse.
[05:53] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:53] <zephyrmaster> Ok, thanks
[05:53] <ubuntu_adiktus> How about MU Online Hendric does it work fine with cedega
[05:53] <ubuntu_adiktus> Hendric: How about MU Online does it work fine with cedega
[05:53] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, maybe it will work with cedega, but noone had it working yet. I did using wine. but i can't see the ingame fonts.
[05:54] <FhaeTon> hey what is an OS/2?
[05:54] <ubuntu_adiktus> waaa
[05:54] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:54] <tritium> FhaeTon: an old OS from IBM
[05:54] <FhaeTon> oh
[05:54] <FhaeTon> ty
[05:54] <dooglus> Jakeass: you can get CDs from many retail outlets, both on the high street and online.
[05:54] <Jakeass> can i have a link?
[05:54] <[LethAL] > dooglus, He has it installed, he wants to boot it
[05:54] <dooglus> http://www.play.com/
[05:54] <tritium> Jakeass: why happens when you try to install grub?
[05:54] <ubuntu_adiktus> how many minutes does ubuntu installs
[05:54] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, link for what?
[05:55] <Hendric> ubuntu_adiktus, computer speed?
[05:55] <TiMiDo> ubuntu_adiktus, depends 20 to 30 minutes
[05:55] <Jakeass> A boot cd for linux
[05:55] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, what distro?
[05:55] <LeeColleton> p0windah: even when I explicitly state "Greyscale" it prints in sickly greens.  If I take out the color cartridge, it goes through the motions and spits out a blank page.
[05:55] <TiMiDo> Jakeass, www.linuxiso.org and check there
[05:55] <[LethAL] > TiMiDo, Ubuntu, duh
[05:55] <Jakeass> ok thanks
[05:55] <yaaar> hey guys....who do i send suggestions about man pages to? the exports(5) man page has an example line in it that works, but causes a warning because of an implicit wildcard, and i sort of think it should note that in the manual. worse, the nfs(8) and nfsd(8) man pages make no mention of the exports file, which is pretty much the central config for nfs
[05:55] <dooglus> yaaar: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:55] <FhaeTon> is it always this hard to run linux
[05:55] <yaaar> dooglus: i don't think these pages are created by ubuntu.....
[05:55] <tritium> no, FhaeTon
[05:55] <dooglus> yaaar: doesn't matter.
[05:55] <p0windah> LeeColleton: thats odd, sounds like its trying to print your greys from your color cartridge
[05:56] <TiMiDo> yaaar, update the manpages man -U or man -u
[05:56] <dooglus> yaaar: if it's an upstream issue, the ubuntu people will forward it upstream and track the bug
[05:56] <LeeColleton> p0windah: yes, and that sounds like a bug to me because it worked before upgrading to Breezy
[05:56] <kennethlove> FhaeTon: linux is easy when you learn to tread it like the different OS that is it.
[05:56] <LeeColleton> p0windah: and the scanner works fine in b/w and color
[05:56] <zephyrmaster> Hmm, for my VLC problem
[05:56] <p0windah> LeeColleton: well if you're sure its not your ink, then you should go ahead and file a bug report
[05:56] <FhaeTon> I'm trying to learn
[05:56] <zephyrmaster> I opened all the repositories, and it says I have unresovable dependencies
[05:57] <zephyrmaster> Is it possible to still install it?
[05:57] <FhaeTon> I have never operated anything outside of ac before
[05:57] <p0windah> LeeColleton: make sure its fixed before breezy is officially released
[05:57] <zephyrmaster> I'm using an Athlon 64 if that matters
[05:57] <Jakeass> Cant find anything
[05:57] <FhaeTon> Mac
[05:57] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?
[05:57] <tritium> zephyrmaster: you also ran sudo apt-get update after updating your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:57] <Jakeass> I have 2 computers, one with windows and one with ubuntu, the ubuntu one doesnt boot, because the grub booter wont install to hdd or mbr, do you know where i can get a cd?