[04:55] <michael1> gaintsura: Atheros 5211 according to dmesg output from a device called wifi0
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> smacktalk:  'nat' the vbox machine will have a ip  that is "natt'ed' to the outside world
[04:56] <collinm140> i dont have volume control
[04:56] <collinm140> wats the problem
[04:56] <collinm140> ?
[04:56] <Zetta> Oh, lovely. I've even managed to stump the guys in the support channel. XD
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Zetta:  booting from usb - has always been quirky
[04:57] <collinm140> id reccomend using an iso
[04:57] <collinm140> thats what i did
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Zetta:  theres no 'sure' thing. its often a issue of the drive/pc bios/phase of the moon.
[04:57] <collinm140> if ur looking for unr
[04:57] <collinm140> just look it up
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Zetta:  try the flash drive in other machines.  see if it works there.
[04:58] <bazhang> !enter | collinm140
[04:58] <collinm140> try the iso
[04:58] <collinm140> sorry
[04:58] <Zetta> Dr_Willis: Worth a shot, I suppose. I'll report back momentarily.
[04:59] <collinm140> does anyone on here know how i can install steam on ubuntu
[04:59] <Berzerker> !steam | collinm140
[04:59] <gaintsura> michael1: this is for ubuntu 7, however it should still follow the same idea... http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> collinm140:  i just got the steam installer.exe and ran 'wine whatever.exe' i recall
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | collinm140
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> collinm140:  i have the steam client working with a few bugs..  but the spefifc games.. can be very quirky
[05:00] <Berzerker> how do I uninstall kde?
[05:00] <Berzerker> sudo apt-get remove kde?
[05:00] <bp> Zetta:  I had bad luck with unetbootin also.  There are other programs out there to do the same.  I am currently running sidux off of usb because the installation went flawlessly from the disk image.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> !puregnome | Berzerker
[05:02] <michael1> gaintsura: oh my goodness i made a gigantic user error. my wifi was set to only do G and N, but not B which is the only thing this machine can. thanks for your help though. too bad the error message was so helpful... NOT ;-)
[05:02] <josh_> espaniol?
[05:02] <cellofellow> !es | josh_
[05:03] <josh_> ubottu: gracias. thanks :)
[05:06] <phirestalker> is there a way to reset the security settings of dbus?
[05:10] <oldude67> phirestalker, just a dumb question are you in the dbus group?
[05:11] <dsdeiz_> in laptops, what do you call the keys which can trigger event by touching them?
[05:12] <jetsaredim> anyone know of a jaunty package for usb-creator
[05:13] <nsahoo> thinking of making the ubuntu computer at home double up as a home server. i'll still work on it, but, hoping to use it to stream media from it to the laptop connected to tv, print from the laptop to the printer connected to the server etc. Is there a guide to this?
[05:13] <MicronXD> hi all!
[05:13] <dsdeiz_> anyone? :D
[05:13] <phirestalker> oldude67, I don't see a dbus group, I see a messagebus group, but noone is a member of that
[05:14] <bucky> phirestalker oldude67 there's a plugdev group  type groups as user
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  most every linux distro can handle server tasks. :)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  i use my ubuntu desktop to doo most all teh stuff you mentioned.
[05:15] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: sure, I am not sure what all server programs I need and how to set it up
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  pick a service.. research it..  do it. :)
[05:15] <oldude67> i was just googling around to see if there was an answer for you phirestalker
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  for sharing files withwindows machines, thats 'samba'
[05:15] <bucky> jetsaredim: theres usb-creator and a usb-imagewriter in the repos and a http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:15] <jetsaredim> nsahoo: depends on what you want to do with it
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  samba and cups - also used for shareing printers.
[05:15] <phirestalker> oldude67,  I don't even see a group called plugdev is my system that messed up?
[05:15] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: Yes. I can use samba, but, what about upnp?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  there are sone uPNP servers for ubuntu also.. but ive never tried them. I just access the videos 'share' normally
[05:16] <phirestalker> oldude67, oh well I have tried googling a bit, I'm having trouble getting the right terms to narrow it down
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> !upnp
[05:16] <bucky> phirestalker: adduser <username> plugdev and log out and back in again to make it effective.. then you can plug usb devices in
[05:16] <jplank> has anyone gotten pptpd up and running?
[05:17] <kiran_> join /#ubuntu
[05:17] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: laptop runs vista home premium with media center, I think it plays well with upnp, but, there was some security issues with upnp from what I heard
[05:17] <jplank> I can't seem to get it working
[05:17] <hian_> oi
[05:17] <kiran_> hi
[05:17] <bazhang> !br | hian_
[05:17] <nsahoo> !info mediatomb
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  last i checked into upnp - it was full of issues.. and Windows was the cause of a lot of them. :)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  so as i said.. i just play videos from the samba share i got set to share all my 'videos'  - much easier to get going
[05:17] <kiran_> can anyone suggest where can i get xbmc media centre
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  its in the repos i thoiught.. and has its own homepage/livecd version/downloads
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> guess he dident want to know
[05:18] <hian_> #ubuntu-br
[05:18] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: that way you just deal with one server. But, when you play a 1.5 GB file say, does it need to transfer the whole thing?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. where did i find that xbmc repo/binary at..
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  no.
[05:19] <phirestalker> bucky, it's not a usb device problem it is just errors showing up in my auth.log, which I suspect is the reason that tomboy always has some error attaching to the panel at startup, among other small issues
[05:19] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: so, it streams, so to speak
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  you see that with some dumb file managers under linux at times. :)  but  no it does not copy then play under most cases
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  it 'sends' :) and playas as it gets.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  wife watches videos like that all the time on her windows box.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  this way she can make playlists and other tricks with the file manager.
[05:20] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: cool
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !xbmc
[05:20] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step (interesting!)
[05:20] <oldude67> phirestalker, what was you doing before you got these errors? or what has caused them?
[05:20] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: so, you are saying I'll just setup samba and should be all good. I can set up cups for printer sharing later .. and most functionalities are there
[05:21] <phirestalker> ok there is something wrong with my users and groups program, root isn't checked off in the root group
[05:21] <bucky> phirestalker: could this be the problem?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/tomboy/+bug/345166
[05:21] <phirestalker> bucky, oldude67, it seems that my problem is bigger than I thought?
[05:21]  * tak11 is away: Eating a Banana, gtfo
[05:22] <kr1t> hey yall
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  cups is allready intalled and im pretty sure it allready shares the printers by default
[05:22] <phirestalker> bucky, oldude67, no groups have users checked off in them, although that can't really be true
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  cups and samba work together i think  to let windows box's print
[05:22] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: I am using the desktop version, not the server one
[05:22] <bazhang> !away > tak11
[05:22] <bucky> phirestalker: i think i found it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628909
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  it does NOT matter.
[05:22] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: ok
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> nsahoo:  the desktop version can work as a server. :) and cups is used on the desktop also
[05:23] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: sure, it's just that I was not sure cups was already installed
[05:23] <nsahoo> Dr_Willis: ok
[05:23] <kr1t> Hey anybody here know much about getting MTP players to transfer with Amarok? Bit of a strange problem...never had before
[05:24] <oldude67> phirestalker, have you tried adding yourself to some of the groups you need?
[05:24] <bucky> phirestalker: Essentially, edit the tomboy menu item and get rid of the --search argument
[05:24] <phirestalker> bucky, well it will start up just fine, it's just the panel applet doesn't want to work on startup, but if I add the applet again after startup it will work
[05:24] <nsahoo> is there any advantage to freenas then? if you have more than a minimal hardware computer?
[05:25] <mer_one> hi
[05:26] <phirestalker> bucky, you mean for the applet on the panel? how do I do that?
[05:26] <phirestalker> oldude67, well I'm not sure I want to do it graphically since it isn't showing accurate info, so what was the command again?
[05:27] <dj9404> HOW TO I GET RID OF GNOME AND go on kde i DL the stuff how to i swich?
[05:27] <mneptok> dj9404: start by turning off the <capslock>
[05:27] <bastidrazor> !purekde | dj9404
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> !purekde
[05:28] <dj9404> My english is no great
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> installing stuff is easy.. getting it off.. can be harder..
[05:28] <kr1t> My problem is that when I start to transfer files through Amarok (11 gB +) The status bar appears at the bottom of the window...but then abruptly disappears while sitting at 0%.
[05:28] <oldude67> dj9404, try logging out switching to kde and then logging back in.
[05:28] <kr1t> When I watch in Console...I see no glaring errors
[05:29] <kr1t> granted that it scrolls past uber fast while it is sitting at 0% of the transfer bar
[05:29] <GuidMorrow> you know what ...?
[05:29] <GuidMorrow> screw this virtual console stuff, I'm thinking about stuffing this windows xp disc in the shredder
[05:29] <phirestalker> bucky, nm I read the site you gave me I see what you meant, but that isn't what is happening for me
[05:30] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, dont do that run a ribbon threw it and hang it on the xmas tree..:D
[05:30] <GuidMorrow> =D
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> stick the cd in the microwave.. toast for 4 min.. enjoy
[05:30] <dsdeiz_> anyone able to get the acer multimediakeys functioning?
[05:30] <GuidMorrow> not in the brand new microwave!
[05:30] <kr1t> dont waste the microwave on the xp cd
[05:31] <nickrud> be sure to put a paper towel on it to prevent splatters
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  the 'work' microwave at the office.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:31] <kr1t> :P
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  acer makes a lot of lpaotps/desktops/machines...
[05:31] <bucky> phirestalker: what is the error in auth.log ?  google it?
[05:31] <phirestalker> oh... so that's why the other building at works microwave doesn't work anymore :O
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> phirestalker:  dident harm it at all. :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> phirestalker:  had to do somthing with all those aol cd's
[05:32] <kr1t> The CD looks really epic....but it really is harmful to the microwave
[05:32] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: the laptop touchpads i think
[05:32] <dj9404> help!
[05:32] <nickrud> http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/05/06/fish-made-out-of-cds_xXTMM_23302.jpg < -- good use for xp disks, used to know artist that did this with those aol disks
[05:32] <GuidMorrow> for one thing, I was hoping to install a SATA HDD and install windows 7 on that and dual boot
[05:32] <oldude67> !help
[05:32] <GuidMorrow> !sata
[05:33] <phirestalker> Dr_Willis, I don't even get those anymore, I wonder if the news story a year or so ago about them filling the landfill made them stop sending so much
[05:33] <Ben64> put a glass of water in with the cd
[05:33] <Ben64> makes it safe for microwave
[05:33] <dj9404> how to remove FOR 9.04 - I went to this link and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[05:33] <kr1t> Problems with transferring files from ubuntu to MTP Device with Amarok. Status bar appears but then goes away...without transferring the files.
[05:33] <phirestalker> Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=6049 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.985" (uid=0 pid=23670 comm="/USR/SBIN/CRON "))
[05:34] <addchild314> g'nite guys. dont forget to sleep at some point (in accordance with local time zones)
[05:34] <phirestalker> bucky, Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=6049 comm="/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.985" (uid=0 pid=23670 comm="/USR/SBIN/CRON "))
[05:34] <phirestalker> bucky, that's the message
[05:34] <GuidMorrow> !xchat
[05:34] <dsdeiz_> !info xchat
[05:34] <GuidMorrow> !help xchat
[05:34] <phirestalker> bucky, I believe there were others, I will look through my logs again
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  i dual boot sata disks all the time..  gotta be carefull when using IDE and sata disks.
[05:35] <kr1t> I am guessing nobody knows much about mtp/this problem :(
[05:35] <GuidMorrow> how do I turn off chat logging in XChat
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  its in the menus  or right click on the channel tab perhaps?
[05:35] <dsdeiz_> oh i forgot to mention that mplayer recognizes them but triggers the wrong commands
[05:35] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, settings preferneces
[05:35] <dsdeiz_> e.g. 'stop' sign forwards the movie
[05:35] <oldude67> preferences even ugh
[05:36] <bucky> !info dmraid
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  there are the gnome settings to redefind what keys do what special functions. perhaps remap them
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[05:37] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: oh sorry. i'm not using gnome
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  Oh- the-Huge-manatee! :P
[05:37] <oldude67> dsdeiz_, what are you using lol...:D
[05:37] <GuidMorrow> I don't have "log conversations" checked
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  theres also ways to remap specific keys to  the proper XF86_WHATEVER events
[05:38] <chriss8> Some help? Is there a way to completely rewrite everything on a netbook with ubuntu? I'm currently dualbooting ubuntu and XP, and I'd like it if I could start over and just have a brand new ubuntu.
[05:38] <dsdeiz_> oldude67: me? just a window manager.. :(
[05:38] <phirestalker> Dr_Willis, did you ever see that joke howto website for burning cds that included a toaster? lol
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  just format the ubuntu partitions when you reinstall ubuntu.
[05:38] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: like xmodmap?
[05:38] <arleslie> chriss8, just reformat the harddrive
[05:38] <oldude67> chriss8, ya put the disk in and tell it to use the whole disk
[05:38] <GuidMorrow> still, why is the last 1024 lines of chat loaded when xchat loads
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  yep - i had to play with that for an IBM keyboard i had.
[05:39] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, hold on i remember seeing that.
[05:39] <bucky> phirestalker: according to google you need to be a member of the powerdev group  ..I think http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=512936
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  history buffer? does it really matter? :) hit F1 check teh xcaht help docs?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> logging is different from a history/saved buffer perhaps?
[05:39] <chriss8> Dr_Willis, arleslie, oldude67:Format the hard drive? So do I just plug in a ubuntu USB, boot from that and install?
[05:39] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, its under logging just get rid of display scroll back
[05:39] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: btw, xev also recognizes it but displays really weird outputs not like keyboard events
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  thats how i install ubuntu on my netbook.,
[05:40] <bucky> phirestalker: here's another reference to it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/359586
[05:40] <arleslie> chriss8, yes thats correct
[05:41] <chriss8> Also, an unrelated question, should I use the desktop edition, or the netbook edition? I like the layout and look of the desktop edition more, but I've heard you can modify the netbook edition to look like the desktop one. Which would you suggest? (I have an eee pc 1005HA netbook)
[05:41] <gvsa123> i have a portable hd that i hook up to ubuntu via usb... it is possible to make this a shared folder so that i can access it via samba from windows right?
[05:41] <apoleo12> heya... before i do some grub repair.. there's soemthing I wanna clarify something here. the grub according to the menu.lst is pointing at h2,4 but according to windows disk managment; linux is on the third drive on a first partition
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  i had to add some proper commands to  rc.local to get the xev keys seen/used right.. so i could remap them
[05:41] <arleslie> chriss8, either one is perfectly fine, the desktop doesn't support usb install unless you get a thirdparty program to do that
[05:41] <apoleo12> there's an image I snapshot of ity and wanna show one of youse...
[05:41] <apoleo12> help?
[05:42] <arleslie> chriss8, I would recommend the netbook remix, and you can make it look like the desktop
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  my script for my old IBM keyboard.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit  /etc/setkeycodes.sh
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f7faaf567
[05:42] <chriss8> arleslie: Yeah, I've done it with unet bootin. Is there a guide you can link me to to make the netbook remix into the desktop theme?
[05:42] <apoleo12> hey arleslie ;)
[05:42] <bucky> phirestalker: wait a minute... how about this http://v2kblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/dbus-daemon-rejected-send-message.html
[05:43] <arleslie> chriss8, to do the desktop theme, go to System > Administation and click switch to Desktop Version
[05:43] <arleslie> apoleo12, hey
[05:43]  * tak11 is back (gone 00:21:42)
[05:43] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: er, too deep for me.. hehehe i'll just let these dang multimedia keys pass for now :D
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  i install the ubuntu-desktop package then use the settings tool to tell it to not use the UNR interface.
[05:44] <bucky> chriss8: apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings  and  ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings
[05:44] <chriss8> arleslie: Oh. That wa ssimple. Thanks.
[05:44] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, he doesn't have to install the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  took me some time. Most of that file is comments. i had to figure out what keys were what.. and remap them to the right XF86xxxxxxxx
[05:44] <bucky> chriss8: and netbook-launcher too
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> if not using  the UNR. i found things lacking  without ubuntu-desktop :)
[05:44] <phirestalker> bucky, that bug report on launchpad seems to have the exact error message so there is that issue most likely
[05:44] <bucky> phirestalker: looks like it
[05:45] <apoleo12> arleslie: before i do some grub repair.. there's soemthing I wanna clarify something here. the grub according to the menu.lst is pointing at h2,4 but according to windows disk managment; linux is on the third drive on a first partition
[05:45] <phirestalker> bucky, I'll keep an eye on the bug report
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> the UNR is neat in ways.. and VERy annoying in others.
[05:45] <kavurt> chriss8, there's a button under preferences, "switch desktop mode" just use that
[05:45] <apoleo12> I dont expect ya to remember my plm.. but does that refresh it?
[05:45] <chriss8> Okay, I'm confused. Should I get the netbook edition, or the desktop one? Or is there no real difference, and it's just a matter of preference?
[05:45] <bucky> phirestalker: try the fix.. back up the file like in the example and edit it
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  what is your netbook? i use the netbook edition on my AAO
[05:45] <arleslie> apoleo12, then where it says hd (0,1) it should be hd (3,1)
[05:45] <chriss8> Dr_Willis: eee pc 1005HA
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  check the forums for how well the EEE stuff is supported  there are some EEE specific  ubuntu variants also
[05:46] <GuidMorrow> cannot execute: " its under logging just get rid of display scroll back"
[05:46] <arleslie> apoleo12, I remember it
[05:46] <arleslie> !dualboot | apoleo12
[05:47] <apoleo12> arleslie: im gomnna go in to liveCD to do ggrub editing after i finish reading the links I got from you
[05:47] <arleslie> apoleo12, ^^ theres the links you need
[05:47]  * GuidMorrow . o O Syntax error
[05:47] <apoleo12> mine isn't a mac..
[05:47] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, how did you break irc? lmao
[05:48] <stager> whats a good distro for clustering web servers?
[05:48] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: can you take a quick peak on a xev output? :S
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  most of mine just showed unknown keycode use.. whatever.. to set it...
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  but i can try :P
[05:49] <apoleo12> arleslie: tho it's strange that windows disk management tells me differently... which it should be hd2,0 but not hd2,4
[05:49] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[05:49] <arleslie> apoleo12, x86/AMD64 is the link you wanted
[05:49] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m79c58ad5
[05:49] <arleslie> apoleo12, what does Windows Disk Management say
[05:49] <dsdeiz_> for now i only know how to set buttons :(
[05:50] <apoleo12> how can I show you? I have it snap shot...
[05:50] <GuidMorrow> does ubuntu support raid functions or nfs
[05:51] <dsdeiz_> btw, on keyboards i use keysym.. but on these buttons i can't seem to find them
[05:51] <snd_> hey woulda nyone kno how I would access a usb drive plugged into my ubuntu box on a virtualbox of vista?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  means very little to me.. I had keys thet the kernel dident even recognize. so my issue wa a bit different.
[05:51] <snd_> like in VIsta's cd cmd
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz_:  i followed the rather old guide at --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[05:52] <dsdeiz_> Dr_Willis: oh ok.. got it. will read it now
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> snd_:  virtualbox fromt he repos can Not access real 'usb' drives.. the version from the virtualbox homepage CAN if you configure it to do so.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> snd_:  if you set it all up right.. it will show up as if it was plugged into a normal windows machine. (ie: have a g: letter)
[05:54] <Jimmy> Hey im trying to use a live cd but when Ubuntu 9.04 boots i can't use my keyboard or mouse. Any help please?
[05:54] <chriss8> Is the "aternat
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> snd_:  alterantively - You can set up a 'share' on the usb drive and let windows in vb. access it as a 'share/network neighborhood place'
[05:54] <GuidMorrow> !raid
[05:54] <chriss8> Is the "alternate" torrent from www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors the netbook edition?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> snd_:  or a 3rd way. virtualbox can have its own special virtualbox share. that windows can access IF you install the virtualbox guest addations.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  no.. theres a UNR edition thats a .img file.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  img - you copy it properly to a flash drive.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> chriss8:  alt edition = alternative text type installer.
[05:56] <GuidMorrow> why is the application "preferences" menu always under the "edit" menu?
[05:56] <chriss8> Dr_Willis: Ooh, okay. Thanks.
[05:57] <GuidMorrow> looks like we're not in Kansas anymore
[05:57] <Jimmy> My keyboard and mouse don't work when i load ubuntu 9.04. Any help?
[05:58] <DPic> why is the "Add" button greyed out under the VPN tab of the connection manager?
[05:58] <DPic> i'm trying to connect using my new IPREDator account =]
[05:58] <GuidMorrow> !vpn
[05:58] <DPic> thanks
[05:58] <googeek> jimmy: what kind are they?
[05:59] <Jimmy> logitech wired mx310 mouse
[05:59] <Jimmy> and some acer keyboard
[05:59] <Jimmy> both usb
[05:59] <bucky> GuidMorrow: you mean the  application "preferences" menu always under the "edit" menu in FireFox
[05:59] <GuidMorrow> usually the option falls under the "tools" menu
[05:59] <Jimmy> they work fine under vista and install menu of ubuntu
[05:59] <googeek> Jimmy: weird. Mines a logitech wireless, and it works
[06:00] <oldude67> Jimmy, run lsusb and see if it is loaded.
[06:00] <GuidMorrow> I have a logitech wireless desktop EX100
[06:00] <Jimmy> run lsusb in installer? or ubuntu itself?
[06:00] <GuidMorrow> !usb
[06:00] <GuidMorrow> ?
[06:01] <GuidMorrow> ubottu they meant usb keyboard/mice
[06:01] <oldude67> jimmy ugh guess you cant do that if the keyboard isnt working..lmao
[06:01] <Jimmy> yeah so am i stuck with vista?
[06:01] <bucky> jimmy did you recompile your own kernel or something?
[06:02] <GuidMorrow> !keyboard
[06:02] <GuidMorrow> :(
[06:02] <Jimmy> idk how to do that? is that under install options
[06:02] <oldude67> Jimmy, but keyboard and mouse worked to load ubuntu?
[06:02] <GuidMorrow> is this upon installing ubuntu or loading the live CD
[06:03] <googeek> jimmy: Do you have a port keyboard and mouse to try?
[06:03] <googeek> jimmy: I don't know much about ubuntu just yet, but I'm guessing you're missing something you need, A port would most likely work for sure
[06:03] <Jimmy> yeah it let me select "instal ubuntu without changing harddrive....sumthing"
[06:03] <kelly_> hey how do i install bogfilter
[06:03] <Jimmy> then it stops when loading ubuntu
[06:03] <googeek> Does anyone know why my visual effects wont enable, even though nvidia seems to be working other than that?
[06:04] <GuidMorrow> there is a little known setting in BIOS called "Legacy USB support" ... if you can get in there and turn it on you might be able to use your setup
[06:04] <Jimmy> k ill try that.
[06:04] <Jimmy> thanks
[06:05] <GuidMorrow> !bios
[06:05] <error404notfound> can i force programs to open in a certain workspace? like evolution in 2nd workspace and thunderbird in first
[06:06]  * GuidMorrow . o O wait ... does he know what key to get into bios with
[06:06] <oldude67> GuidMorrow, dont matter hes gone..lol
[06:06] <nightingale> hello
[06:06] <oldude67> halo
[06:06] <spO> how do i force someone out, ie reduce their shells to nothing, ie how do i get them out of my system, ie how do i log them out?
[06:07] <GuidMorrow> !hi | nightingale
[06:07] <nightingale> thx
[06:07] <spO> how do i force log another user out?
[06:07] <kelly_> hey i am trying to install bogfilter i have tried apt-get install bogfilter
[06:08] <GuidMorrow> !bogfilter
[06:08]  * donkehofdarkness slaps macd_
[06:08] <GuidMorrow> what is that?
[06:09]  * GuidMorrow pounds ubottu with a giant fist
[06:09] <arleslie> !find bogfilter | kelly_
[06:09] <ClayG> how do I access my trashcan from x?
[06:09] <SealedWithAKiss> Strange question, would a standard inkjet orl laser printer print onto toilet paper? I don't have a printer so can't test this to find out!
[06:09] <arleslie> GuidMorrow, to find package information use !find <package name>
[06:10] <arleslie> !offtopic SealedWithAKiss
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  i hope you got some good quality T.P. :) cheap stuff..i doubt it...
[06:10] <GuidMorrow> kelly_: That package might be used in another Linux distro
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> SealedWithAKiss:  and the ink will proberly print all fuzzy
[06:10] <arleslie> !ot | SealedWithAKiss
[06:11] <spO> does apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop  remove all DESKTOP and all its apps?  I want to remove desktop and all its apps
[06:12] <SealedWithAKiss> arleslie, such a fun sponge.
[06:12] <obx> Why does it take so long to resize a hd ugh.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> spO:  no. thats a 'meta package' removing that package will in fact.. remove.. not much of anything
[06:12] <donkehofdarkness> pretty sure it does
[06:12] <arleslie> SealedWithAKiss, I just follow rules
[06:12] <donkehofdarkness> =/
[06:12] <obx> is it easier partioning while installing, or doing it before you install?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> obx:  windows  can resize ntfs MUCH faster then the linux tools do.
[06:12] <SealedWithAKiss> arleslie, follow them or enforce them?
[06:12] <arleslie> SealedWithAKiss, well both
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> obx:  like 4x+ faster.
[06:13] <obx> but how do you resize in windows if the hd is being used D:
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> obx:  no idea how it works.. but it did for me :)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> obx:  black magic?
[06:13] <obx> i figured voodoo had a part of it
[06:13] <SealedWithAKiss> arleslie, relax. Sounds as though you need somebody to go OT in here once in a while to mix things up. Unless your aware of a toilet paper printing channel?
[06:13] <spO> how can i remove all of desktop related things in ubuntu?
[06:14] <thelostfaith> Is there the possibility of having different backgrounds for each panel?
[06:14] <bazhang> SealedWithAKiss, take chat elsewhere
[06:14] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, Windows uses DOS to format, if you want to do a full format it takes forever but it does quick formats 4x faster. I would recommend on using the ubuntu formater or gParted
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> arleslie:  he asked about resuzing.
[06:14] <obx> I'm using parted to resize
[06:14] <obx> but it sure is taking a long time :(
[06:15] <arleslie> obx, gParted usally doesn't take more then 10 mintues to resize
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> obx:  yes.. gparted reszing is a lot slower then booting to windows and lettting windows resize it.
[06:15] <obx> yeah this has been going on for 13 >>
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> obx:  you are resizing a ntfs right?
[06:15] <obx> hmm
[06:15] <obx> yeah
[06:15] <thelostfaith> It took me about 10 minutes to partition 1tb
[06:15] <donkehofdarkness> it's usually better to delete ntfs
[06:15] <obx> am i doing it wrong D:?
[06:15] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, well then idk why gParted is so quick on my machine, it only took 30 minutes to create and format 3 partitions and then setting the flags
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> arleslie:  create/formating is not the same as 'resizing' a partition and keeping the existing data
[06:16] <insigne> oi
[06:17] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, I've resized partitions also and it took less then 3 minutes
[06:17] <obx> my computer is just a big dumb?
[06:17] <insigne> 1111
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> arleslie:  go try resizing a 1tb partition thats 90% full... and  take a nap.
[06:17] <Gnea> arleslie: have your ead this? http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[06:17] <psi-jack> Great!
[06:18] <psi-jack> Ubuntu 8.04 kernel panicked, AGAIN, on installation.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> its also a good idea to defrag befor resizing.
[06:18] <spO>  how do i (force) log someone out  ?  besides just killing their shell
[06:18] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, well I usally do only resize 10% full partitions, so thats probly why
[06:18] <GuidMorrow> which one of these work best for burning an ISO to a CD, again?
[06:18] <Gnea> psi-jack: what kind of system is it?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> arleslie:  :) yes..  it would resize one thats 0% full even faster i bet!
[06:18] <Gnea> !best
[06:18] <Ivoz> how do i go about trying to make an eclipse 3.5 package for ubuntu to use?
[06:18] <Gnea> !burn | GuidMorrow
[06:19] <psi-jack> Gnea: Pentium 4 2.8 HT, 4gb DDR1 400Mhz, 6 HDD's, DVD, DVD-RW, etc.
[06:19] <Gnea> psi-jack: must be something weird with your hardware configuration. have you tried 8.10 or 9.04?
[06:19] <psi-jack> It's kernel panicking on XFS of all things.
[06:19] <donkehofdarkness> LOL
[06:19] <psi-jack> Gnea: Not yet, no. I wanted to use 8.04 specifically.
[06:19] <arleslie> sp0, pkill -KILL -u “username”
[06:19] <Gnea> psi-jack: try changing the bootline to include this:  pci=routeirq
[06:20] <psi-jack> Gnea: Gotcha, will do.
[06:20] <collinm140> i dont have volume control what do i do?
[06:20] <CaptainCrook> anyone having nessus taking a long long time to log in?
[06:21] <Gnea> collinm140: how do you know you don't have volume control?
[06:21] <collinm140> it went away
[06:21] <obx> yeah that's right i probably should have defragged
[06:21] <collinm140> Gnea: i tihnk i messed up some stuff screwing around in alsamixer
[06:21] <obx> would it just be easier doing this WHILE i'm installing? cause this is a bit of a bother
[06:21] <chanklor> anyone knows how to extract mp3 from an Audio CD?
[06:22] <collinm140> Gnea:can i just revert that to original settings?
[06:22] <arleslie> !rip | chanklor
[06:22] <psi-jack> chanklor: They're not on the CD as MP3 so you can't extract mp3's from an Audio CD
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> chanklor:  you 'rip' reencode to mp3 format..
[06:22] <Gnea> collinm140: there's no volume control selector on the top panel?
[06:22] <collinm140> Gnea: none at all
[06:22] <GuidMorrow> ubottu: #ubuntu-bots has errors
[06:22] <chanklor> thanks
[06:22] <Gnea> collinm140: so it just disappeared?
[06:22] <collinm140> Gnea:in its entireity
[06:23] <bazhang> collinm140, right click add to panel
[06:23] <Gnea> collinm140: then just right-click on the top panel, go to "add to panel" and select the volume control
[06:23] <collinm140> Gnea: yes tried it it doesnt work
[06:24] <Gnea> collinm140: define "doesnt work" in detail, please
[06:24] <thelostfaith> If I've accessed a usb drive from my desktop and I want to transfer the files over to another usb drive and its telling me I don't have permissions, how can I go about setting them?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  what filesystem is on the drives?
[06:24] <thelostfaith> One is fat, other is ext3
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  for ext3 you MUST set proper permissions/ownership with chmode  and chown
[06:25] <thelostfaith> duh
[06:25]  * thelostfaith facepalms
[06:25] <collinm140> Gnea: when i click add under volume control (depracated) nothing happens at all, and when i go into system -> preferences -> sound it says waiting for sound system to respond
[06:25] <collinm140> and nothing happens
[06:25] <Gnea> collinm140: and the same thing happens when you reboot?
[06:25] <collinm140> Gnea: yes
[06:26] <Gnea> collinm140: any results from the following command in a terminal?  cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:27] <collinm140> Gnea: no such directory
[06:28] <Gnea> collinm140: okay, are you familiar with pastebin?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  :) at least you were not trying to chown/chmod files on a ntfs filesystem. :)
[06:28] <collinm140> Gnea: no
[06:28] <Gnea> !pastebin
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  and i see this question asked about once a day in here. :) in some form or another.
[06:28] <thelostfaith> I know enough about file systems, been developing over them for years.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  ok. :)
[06:28] <thelostfaith> Just finally got around to actually full-timing a linux system
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  you just overlooked it.. heh.
[06:29] <Gnea> collinm140: I suggest installing pastebinit before we continue
[06:29] <collinm140> Gnea: one minute
[06:29] <thelostfaith> I'm so used to all my drives being of some windows format
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  if you move that usb drive to another linux box.. the ownerships may be wrong also.
[06:29] <Gnea> collinm140: sure thing
[06:29] <thelostfaith> Well, I have to lock my stuff up daily, so I'm sure I'll have to chmod them daily tbh
[06:30] <obx> aurgh this is still going :(
[06:30]  * GuidMorrow . o O Cannot get an accurate ping reading. Worst: 61.7s
[06:30] <collinm140> Gnea: i have the url pulled up
[06:30] <Gnea> GuidMorrow: tried tracepath?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  if you are plugging it into the same machine every day.. proberly not.
[06:30] <Gnea> collinm140: okay. could you please pastebin the output of the following commands:  lspci  and  dmesg
[06:30] <thelostfaith> Dr_Willis, I'm really hoping on that
[06:31] <arleslie> obx, I recommend taking a nap then
[06:31] <thelostfaith> But I've ran into some bogus issues lately with this laptop and ubuntu
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  unless the admins some how reorder teh uid's  for the users.
[06:31] <obx> i'd rather not wipe out ntfs this time :(
[06:31] <GuidMorrow> !sshd
[06:31] <arleslie> obx, I ment you take a nap not your computer
[06:32] <thelostfaith> Nah, I'm the admin
[06:32] <obx> haha
[06:32] <starimpact> the wirless of ubuntu9.04 has problem
[06:33] <collinm140> http://paste.ubuntu.com/253941/
[06:33] <Gnea> starimpact: have you filed a bug?
[06:33] <GuidMorrow> WTH BAD LAG!
[06:34] <starimpact> not yet
[06:34] <collinm140> Gnea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253941/
[06:34] <spO> how do i kill a shell based on its pts ptty or terminal name , ie, i have multiple people with the sam euser name logged in and i want to kill the shell of only one of htem
[06:34] <GuidMorrow> at this point FreeNode would have kicked me away after three minutes of lag
[06:34] <starimpact> the wirless is not steable, sometime can work ,sometime can not
[06:34] <chanklor> does anyone knows an alternative for Sound Juicer?
[06:35] <GuidMorrow> can you do ssh over wireless
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  yes.
[06:35] <Gnea> collinm140: it looks like you put the system to sleep
[06:35] <collinm140> Gnea: ?
[06:35] <collinm140> im very new to linux
[06:35] <Gnea> collinm140: you have a dell Inspiron 9300
[06:36] <collinm140> Gnea: yes
[06:36] <xiphos> its kinda funny, you never hear anyone say, I am very experienced in Linux
[06:36] <GuidMorrow> like ssh to another computer hooked with a wireless dongle
[06:36] <xiphos> or I have been using this forever
[06:36] <collinm140> Xiphos haha
[06:36] <GuidMorrow> because I was wanting to setup a NFS on that one machine
[06:36] <collinm140> ive heard linux guru
[06:36] <GuidMorrow> samba perhaps
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> xiphos:  been using it for.. Hmm... 12+years...
[06:37] <Morik> Hello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  you can do SSH or any other sort of networking over wireless that you do over wired..normally
[06:37] <Gnea> collinm140: okay. the dmesg command outputs the kernel messages. it basically tells you what's up with your system. one thing it pointed out was that you put the system to sleep and then woke it back up. it's possible that your sound did not recover.
[06:37] <kiran_> WIRED
[06:37] <collinm140> Gnea: sp how can i reset it?
[06:38] <arleslie> xiphos, thats because the experienced ones don't have problems
[06:38] <kiran_> how to install kde
[06:38] <Gnea> collinm140: do a standard reboot of the system and don't put it to sleep
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> the experienced ones.. know where to go read  to learn to fix their problems. :)
[06:38] <arleslie> !find kde | kiran_
[06:38] <bazhang> kiran_, the package kubuntu-desktop
[06:38] <collinm140> Gnea and oh yes i did get a message wen turning it on after putting it to sleep that there was a serious kernel error
[06:38] <GuidMorrow> problem is, will my router let me ssh to another computer...?
[06:38] <kiran_> ya
[06:38] <xiphos> =)
[06:38] <bazhang> kiran_, install that package
[06:38] <arleslie> Dr_Willis, that to
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  its your router.. check its docs..
[06:39] <GuidMorrow> linksys wrt150n
[06:39] <OsoPolaroid> hello people
[06:39] <kiran_> i wanna install compliz themes i am sucked please sugget me
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> GuidMorrow:  most can do ssh port forwarding..
[06:39] <kiran_> how to install
[06:39] <Gnea> collinm140: yeah. a lot of hardare had to be re-initialised. it looks like the audio subsystem was not.
[06:40] <GuidMorrow> !compliz | kiran_
[06:40] <nate__> hey everyone...i just installed ubuntu on 500gb ide drive and am getting the grub error 17...i can find a for sure answer on google on how to resolve it.  I need basically fix my MBR right?  Anybody care to help a noob get it fixed? :)
[06:40] <kiran_> hello bazhang
[06:40] <Morik> Hello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error "Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file. "
[06:40] <kiran_> ya compiz
[06:40] <nate__> *i cant find
[06:40] <GuidMorrow> !compiz | kiran_
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> nate__:  a linux only system?
[06:40] <bazhang> kiran_, you want kubuntu or compiz?
[06:40] <nate__> no i got vista 64 on a separte hdd
[06:40] <kiran_> both of them
[06:40] <dsdeiz_> how to get the source of a package?
[06:41] <dsdeiz_> using apt-get?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[06:41] <GuidMorrow> does your gfx card support compiz?
[06:41] <bazhang> kiran_, kubuntu has its own 3D compositing you know?
[06:41] <Gnea> dsdeiz_: use apt-get source <packagename>
[06:41] <nate__> i booted into knoppix if you need me to tell you my settings
[06:41] <xiphos> haha nice
[06:41] <bazhang> xiphos, ??
[06:41] <kiran_> no iam new to  linux
[06:41] <pblchai> kernel 2.6.28-11 its better than 28-14.47?
[06:41] <xiphos> !apt
[06:42] <Gnea> pblchai: 28-14.47 is not a kernel version.
[06:42] <kiran_> guidmorrow my graphics card support compliz
[06:42] <GuidMorrow> card?
[06:42] <collinm140> Gnea: i just did a proper reboot and still nothing
[06:42] <kiran_> inbuilt 268 mb
[06:43] <pblchai> 2.6.28-14.47
[06:43] <Gnea> collinm140: nothing in /proc/asound/cards?
[06:43] <Gnea> pblchai: never seen it. got 2.6.28-15 here
[06:43] <collinm140> gnea: no such file or directory
[06:44] <Morik> Hello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file.
[06:44] <Gnea> collinm140: try this:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:44] <kiran_> anyone answer me
[06:44] <kiran_> please
[06:44] <Gnea> !anyone
[06:44] <GuidMorrow> kiran_: Unknown card. Compiz usually works on most modern ATI/AMD or nVIDIA graphics cards
[06:44] <bazhang> kiran_, answer what
[06:44] <Gnea> kiran_: who makes inbuilt?
[06:44] <pblchai> i got 2.6.28-11 but the update manager now are downloading the .14.47
[06:45] <kiran_> intel
[06:45] <pblchai> i use x86_64
[06:45] <Gnea> pblchai: what version of ubuntu?
[06:45] <pblchai> jaunty
[06:45] <GuidMorrow> !intel
[06:46] <bazhang> <IP_ADDRESS>.19 pblchai you must be mistaken
[06:46] <Ivoz> Hi, after enabling both my monitors to be X-Screens and xinerama, visual effects now says I need the 'composite' extension to get 3d effects.. anyone know what's going on? I'm running ubuntu 9.04 with a 9600GT and nvidia drivers
[06:46] <Gnea> pblchai: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:47] <pblchai> yes
[06:47] <collinm140> Gnea: still nothing
[06:47] <Gnea> collinm140: okay, how about this one:  sudo alsa force-reload
[06:48] <pblchai> http://pastebin.ca/1531161
[06:48] <pblchai> correct?
[06:48] <Gnea> pblchai: yup..
[06:48] <obx> oh wow, it's finally doing it. 49 minutes eta :/
[06:49] <pblchai> later than reboot, the auto eth0, is not available
[06:49] <pblchai> i dont know why
[06:49] <collinm140> Gnea: should i reboot?
[06:49] <pblchai> I know use better hardy heron than jaunty jacklope
[06:49] <Gnea> collinm140: no, once was enough
[06:50] <GuidMorrow> kiran_ logged off before receiving their answer
[06:50] <collinm140> Gnea well still nothing is happening
[06:50] <fbn> Hi, to what package in Launchpad should I report a bug related to USB/kernel ?
[06:50] <Morik> Hello. I am having troubles with DVD play in Totem. It gives me the error "Could not open location. You might not have permission to open this file. "
[06:50] <GuidMorrow> what the heck exactly is a jackalope
[06:51] <collinm140> australian thing
[06:51] <collinm140> i remember one of my conselours from australia talking about one
[06:51] <collinm140> i tihng its related to an antelope
[06:51] <collinm140> and a jackrabbit
[06:51] <apoloeo12> I've got a problem... Im in liveCD trying to repair grub error 15 by typing root (hdx,x) then setup (hdX) then I get an error saying Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[06:51] <vassler> Any way to rip a dvd movie and copy the movie onto your harddrive?
[06:51] <Morik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope
[06:52] <apoloeo12> Help... feels like Im not even half way
[06:52] <GuidMorrow> !
[06:52] <GuidMorrow> !copyright
[06:52] <collinm140> Guid Morrow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope
[06:52] <bazhang> GuidMorrow, please /msg ubottu
[06:52] <bazhang> collinm140, please keep chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <apoloeo12> uhm that may not make sense...
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Jackalope = fictious animal = a rabbit with 'horns'
[06:53] <collinm140> sorry
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:53] <collinm140> Gnea: still nothing
[06:53] <Gnea> collinm140: taking a look around ubuntuforums.org
[06:53] <collinm140> Gnea: iv done almost everything there
[06:53] <fudoreaper> upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 using 'do-release-upgrade' is failing without displaying an error, but just after "Calculating the changes". any ideas what's wrong?
[06:53] <collinm140> Gnea but am not sure wat type of sound card i have
[06:54] <collinm140> Gnea : so cant advance much further
[06:54] <OsoPolaroid> hello people, could someone help this newbie (that is, me)  in a Linux audio issue, please?
[06:54]  * apoloeo12 needs GRUB help
[06:54] <collinm140> OSOPOLAND: you two?
[06:54] <arleslie> !audio | OsoPolaroid
[06:55] <Gnea> collinm140: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:55] <nate__> hey everyone...i just installed ubuntu on 500gb ide drive and am getting the grub error 17...i cant find a for sure answer on google on how to resolve it.  I need basically fix my MBR right?  Anybody care to help a noob get it fixed? :)
[06:55] <xiphos> I have a related question, using ALSA actually. Do you knwo where I can find this package? flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[06:55] <OsoPolaroid> Collinm, yes I have a bit of problems with my soundcard in linux
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | nate__
[06:56] <arleslie> !audio | OsoPolaroid, Gnea, collinm140
[06:57] <Gnea> collinm140: this page seems to hit exactly what you're dealing with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773221
[06:57] <OsoPolaroid> Ubottu, I have tried all the help available in the web related my problem
[06:57] <apoloeo12> Dr_Willis: wudn't  you like know about the grub error I have right now?
[06:57] <Deftone07> I need help....got a new laptop and can't find the drivers for my wireless. can someone help me out pleez
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  :) if i say no.. is that making me a badddd boy?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  grub is the kindof thing i spent  a few hrs reading about, reading the grub docs and experiment/learning about...
[06:58] <apoloeo12> Yeess!!! if I say that you suck.. would you hate me?
[06:58] <arleslie> Deftone07, what is the wireless device?
[06:58] <Deftone07> Intel pro wireless
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  #1 thing people overloook is that grub counts fro 0, and  linux starts counting from 1
[06:58] <apoloeo12> yeah ya not the only one despite that Im more newer than you are haha
[06:58] <arleslie> !wireless | Deftone07
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  #2 thing is that the hd# can change depending onwhat drive you are booting.
[06:59] <apoloeo12> Dr_Will: I already understood that... tricky at first untill it come to my sense ;)
[06:59] <Deftone07> i know how to install it and stuff...just not sure what driver is the correct one
[06:59] <biovore> Deftone07: most of the intell wireless devices work off the bat..  you probably have one of the new ones..
[06:59] <Schmitty> !ubuntu
[06:59] <apoloeo12> Dr_Willis: the hd# changes when booting??
[06:59] <OsoPolaroid> all I need is an experienced Linux user to explain how to use a "patch" (more likely some amount of code) which I found in a forum to solve my audio problem
[06:59] <arleslie> Deftone07, if ubuntu didn't install a default one, I suggest using madWifi
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  if you have a exteranl usb drive and tell bios to boot from it.. it becomes 'hd0' the internal drives would then be hd1 and so on...
[07:00] <Deftone07> I have an HP Pavillion dv4-1435dx
[07:00] <apoloeo12> Ohh i see
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  ifyou booted from interlan drive.. the exteranl usb one would be hd1 (or higher)
[07:00] <apoloeo12> no no dont think that the plm I have
[07:00] <pimped92> Where do i get kernel modules for sound?
[07:00] <iandayen> I have a wireless question with the newest Ubuntu, I installed Ubuntu, and before updating, I was able to use wireless with the madwifi driver, but once I updated, my wifi doesn't work
[07:01] <biovore> Deftone07: if you open a shell and type "sudo lspci"  does it say anything there about the wireless device..
[07:01] <apoloeo12> Type of the volume is dyamic in windows and would that not be affected?
[07:01] <Schmitty> !lspci
[07:01] <iandayen> how do I open a shell
[07:01] <Deftone07> crap i'll have to check when i get back on ubuntu...i had to get back on crappy vista to find out the driver
[07:01] <Schmitty> !shell
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> iandayen:  gnome-terminal iconis one way
[07:01] <bazhang> Schmitty, /msg ubottu
[07:02] <pimped92> where can i get kernel modules for sound?
[07:02] <shivraj> haha ubottu
[07:02] <fudoreaper> pimped92: kernel modules usually come with ubuntu
[07:02] <Schmitty> bazhang: that was for iandayen ; wouldn't do much good if I was the only one to see the responce
[07:02] <arleslie> Schmitty, not everyone needs that
[07:03] <bazhang> !bot > Schmitty
[07:03] <iandayen> I see ethernet controller, but no wireless
[07:03] <Deftone07> although everest ultimate tells me Broadcom 802.11bg
[07:03] <arleslie> iandayen, are you sure your wireless device is turned on?
[07:03] <shivraj> wow this ubuntu is pretty nice
[07:03] <iandayen> yes
[07:03] <iandayen> first thing I checked
[07:03] <shivraj> whats the name of this latest release ?
[07:03] <Deftone07> what's the new ubuntu?
[07:03] <karex> HI, is there an application to gain or normalize audio (ogg, mp3, ...) volume?
[07:04] <maco> shivraj: 9.04 was codenamed "Jaunty Jackalope" during development
[07:04] <pblchai> jaunty jacklope, actual
[07:04] <gst-kaps> how do i restore my grub, /boot/grub/stage1 file is not there ?
[07:04] <arleslie> well the new one is going to be 9.10 and I forgot whats its called
[07:04] <maco> pblchai: hmm? if youre correcting my spelling, there are definitely 2 a's in the english word "jackalope"
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  you sure you are looking in the right place? How did you boot that system without that files being there?
[07:04] <shivraj> haha, well I usually use Debian but after grub failed and the kernel wasnt working ... I decided to try this ubuntu cd I had laying around
[07:04] <iandayen> it worked great until i downloaded, installed updates and then restarteed computer, after that, no connection
[07:05] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:I am on live cd
[07:05] <savanny1976u> gst-Kaps, use live Cd
[07:05] <arleslie> !fixgrub | gst-kaps
[07:05] <thelostfaith> If I have an empty drive and gparted is registering it at ~950g, yet when I click on the drive via nautilus and it says 850g, whats the issue?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  be sure you are not looking on the '/boot/ thats on the live cd.. but the  'boot/grub' thats where you mounted theinstalled system
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[07:06] <pblchai> you are correcting my spelling i dont doing anything i go spanish english sucks!
[07:06] <karex> HI, is there an application to gain or normalize audio (ogg, mp3, ...) volume?
[07:06] <arleslie> !audio | karex
[07:06] <maco> pblchai: oh ok. the "actual" i thought meant you were trying to correct me. sorry.
[07:06] <innomen> Can anyone recommend a novel/book creation solution? i have a bunch of chapters and i dont know what order to put them in, i would like to be able to manage them in some way, any gpl ideas?
[07:06] <arleslie> karex, whoops sorry
[07:06] <pblchai> no problem thank you
[07:07] <maco> innomen: typesetting or brainstorming?
[07:07] <pblchai> now i know how to write jaunty jackAlope
[07:07] <pblchai> :P
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> innomen:  tex/latex is designed for  typesetting.. if thas what you want.
[07:07] <arleslie> karex, ubuntu has a built in audio mixer, right click on the volume icon at the top next to the clock and click "Open Volume Control"
[07:07] <pblchai> the next is Karmic Koala 9.10 in october 2009
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Laughing Lamma
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:08] <pblchai> empathy will replace pidgin?
[07:08] <karex> arleslie: i mean such a small audio editor :)
[07:08] <thelostfaith> If a drive is set to 777, whys it telling me its read-only?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  the directorys on the drive can have other permissions
[07:08] <acro-asarva_> don't you mean 666?
[07:08] <arleslie> !find audacity | karex
[07:08] <Gnea> thelostfaith: sub-directories won't be the same
[07:08] <bazhang> pblchai, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[07:08] <thelostfaith> I set -R
[07:09] <iandayen> ok after enabling the alternate aetheros driver in hardware tab, in terminal doing sudo lspci I see Atheros Comminications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg wireless PCI Express Adapter
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  when in doubt double check the permissions
[07:09] <Gnea> acro-asarva_: 666 is for files, 777 for directories & executables
[07:09] <iandayen> but I still can not connect to any network wirelessly
[07:09] <karex> arleslie: is there a smaller/easier application than audacity?
[07:09] <arleslie> karex, ubottu is really letting me down today, you can use Audacity, due "sudo apt-get install audacity" in a terminal
[07:09] <maco> !info normalize-audio | karex
[07:10] <maco> arleslie: karex is asking for something lighterweight than audacity
[07:10] <pblchai> ok
[07:10] <apoloeo12> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition <--- how do I get grub to recognize the mounted drive??? if it isnt already
[07:10] <iandayen> any ideas?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  mount it some where?
[07:11] <thelostfaith> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk': Read-only file system
[07:11] <thelostfaith> It still says that
[07:11] <thelostfaith> wtf
[07:11] <apoloeo12> dr_willis it seemed mounted.... even i clicked on the drive...
[07:11] <thelostfaith> Thats weird
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> thelostfaith:  is it ntfs or what filesystem?
[07:11] <Gnea> thelostfaith: as user or sudo?
[07:11] <arleslie> thelostfaith, what file system is /media/disk
[07:11] <karex> arleslie: ok, i'll try normalize-audio before asking (if it's needed). thank u
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  perhaps grub is looking somewhere else for it.
[07:11] <thelostfaith> fat32 -> ext3 is what I'm transferring to->from
[07:11] <acro-asarva_> sudo aptitude wipe & sudo wipe -r /?
[07:11] <thelostfaith> I used sudo
[07:12] <apoloeo12> why? not after i typed setup (hd1)
[07:12] <savanny1976u> apoloeo12, how many hard drive do you have?
[07:12] <thelostfaith> /say /media/disk ext3
[07:12] <apoloeo12> still wouldnt work if zI type hd0 even
[07:12] <apoloeo12> three harddrives
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:    that tells grub to install teh boot foles onto hd1, it still looks in /boot/ for the files.. if you dont have /boot/properfiles  then it cant copy them over.
[07:12] <Seventoes> I installed the NVidia drivers from the hardware manager, and when i rebooted i have my desktop tiled 6 times on my screen and a teeeeny resolutoin :(
[07:12] <arleslie> thelostfaith, ubuntu should auto mount a fat32 filesystem, and fat32 is read and writeble in linux, you shouldn't have to transform it to ext3
[07:13] <Seventoes> GeForce GT 130M 1gb
[07:13] <iandayen> anyone familiar with wireless problems that could help?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12: also if this is from a live cd. theres 1 or 2 commands you normally do befor   you try to install grub.
[07:13] <savanny1976u> Your problem is Cylinders, were are trying to RESTORE  MBR?
[07:13] <eraggo> hah! never been so easy to install mobile internet connection before 9.04 :)
[07:13] <thelostfaith> I'm trying to transfer files from a fat32 external to an ext3 external
[07:13] <thelostfaith> The external is giving me that error
[07:14] <mralexandro> i have trouble editing the menus in ubuntu
[07:14] <apoloeo12> man what did I miss?
[07:14] <arleslie> thelostfaith, which external
[07:14] <thelostfaith> The /media/disk (ext3) gives me that error
[07:14] <karex> arleslie: is there GUI for normalize-audio?
[07:14] <apoloeo12> I acciently closed chatroom when i was typing
[07:14] <mralexandro> i want to make another main menu, like the aplication and places and system menu
[07:14] <thelostfaith> Even after chmod -R 777
[07:14] <fudoreaper> thelostfaith: you may need to remount it
[07:14] <arleslie> karex, I don't know I don't use normalize-audio
[07:15] <apoloeo12> Dr_Willis: care to repeat what u said pleasse?
[07:15] <arleslie> apoloeo12, Dr_Willis> apoloeo12: also if this is from a live cd. theres 1 or 2 commands you normally do befor   you try to install grub.
[07:15] <dennizjov> I got a problem with my soundcard in Ubuntu, it works now when i used pulseaudio instead but i need to do it everytime i restart ubuntu... And i dont have: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[07:15] <pblchai> i want to prepare the test LPIC-1, and later ubuntu certification but here in Argentina i dont know anyone who offer the test or help me learning
[07:15] <dennizjov> How do i fix System -> Preferences -> Sound ? I dont have it on my menu
[07:15] <Seventoes> and the NVidia config tool doesn't let me pick a resolution above 640x480
[07:15] <arleslie> !audio | dennizjov
[07:15] <savanny1976u> Grub can not see your 3 drives
[07:16] <apoloeo12> Dr_W: what would that be?
[07:16] <apoloeo12> Dr_Willis: what would that be?
[07:16] <oneeighttwo> girloves
[07:16] <dennizjov> arleslie: I have followed that guide, alsa doesnt found my soundcard but pulseaudio do, now i want to change the default sound to pulseaudio from the WIKI guide... but i dont have System -> Preferences -> Sound in menu
[07:17] <dennizjov> thats the big problem
[07:17] <apoloeo12> savanny: what? what do you mean?
[07:17] <arleslie> dennizjov, what verison of ubuntu are you running
[07:17] <apoloeo12> I hate this not having a nick comp
[07:17] <dennizjov> arleslie: 9.04
[07:17] <arleslie> dennizjov, what flavor?
[07:17] <dennizjov> arleslie: xubuntu
[07:18] <arleslie> !xubuntu | dennizjov
[07:18] <arleslie> dennizjov, nvm, ubottu isn't helping me out here
[07:18] <mralexandro> how can i create another main menu like the "aplications" "places" "system" ones already on the ubuntu distro, i tried editing menu, but could not add anoter "main" menu
[07:18] <arleslie> dennizjov, let me find the channel for xubuntu
[07:18] <savanny1976u> Where are you trying to install Grub? master drive,2nd or 3rd?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  reading up on the '!fixgrub' urls they mention a command similer to...
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda
[07:19] <arleslie> dennizjov, join #xubuntu and they'll tell you where to go
[07:19] <Dr_Willis>   the root-directory is the proper path to where your system is mounted to.
[07:19] <dennizjov> arleslie: thanks
[07:19] <apoloeo12> savanny: d0 is nothing, d2 is XP and D3 is linux
[07:19] <bucky> mralexandro: right click on the panel and click on Add to Panel and scroll down to Main Menu
[07:19] <apoloeo12> dr_willis: ok... trying now
[07:20] <nacuwin> salam
[07:20] <savanny1976u> apoloeolo12, Here is a link that explain your problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:21] <thelostfaith> I remounted the drive, its still giving me that error
[07:21] <apoloeo12> savanny: correction; d0 is nothing, d1 is XP and D2 is linux
[07:22] <apoloeo12> savanny hold on checking...
[07:22] <mralexandro> bucky: that will just add the same menu as already there. i want my own one
[07:22] <linuxninja> I'm using the firefox 3 binary
[07:22] <linuxninja> it says I don't have java
[07:22] <linuxninja> how do I install java on firefox 3
[07:22] <savanny1976u> is d0, the master?
[07:23] <arleslie> linuxninja, go to java.com and download a linux verison
[07:23] <maco> linuxninja: install icedtea6-plugin
[07:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> linuxninja: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[07:23] <bazhang> arleslie, err no, get from repos
[07:23] <maco> linuxninja: openjdk-6-jre is a runtime environment
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> 'firefox 3 binary' ? how did you install firefox?
[07:23] <linuxninja> okay
[07:24] <linuxninja> Thanks All
[07:24] <apoloeo12> savanny: msg me your  meuila and Ill send it to you?
[07:24] <arleslie> bazhang, I don't know the package name
[07:24] <apoloeo12> *email
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package installs java and flash and more
[07:24] <savanny1976u> Go to the boot menu and boot from different drive
[07:24] <thelostfaith> Ahh, fixed
[07:24] <thelostfaith> :)
[07:24] <bazhang> arleslie, ubuntu-restricted-extras or !java > nick will do it
[07:24] <bucky> mralexandro: how about a drawer?
[07:25] <arleslie> !java | linuxninja
[07:25] <arleslie> bazhang, thanks
[07:25] <mralexandro> bucky: thats nice:D
[07:25] <mralexandro> bucky: can i just add any aplication in that one?
[07:26] <rakwerfen> ciao
[07:27] <rakwerfen> !list
[07:28] <apoloeo12> savanny: I take that as a no?
[07:28] <inhotteb> helo
[07:28] <inhotteb> Привет
[07:28] <inhotteb> У меня вопрос.
[07:28] <inhotteb> Может кто ответить?)
[07:29] <Dr_Willis>  !ru
[07:29] <apoloeo12> Dr_willis: anyway, the command you just gave me.. will that put it on the first harddrive??? whereas no OS resides on the first one? Others are on second and third?
[07:29] <inhotteb> i can and an english )
[07:29] <Ky|e> When ever I try to use my wireless now in ubuntu it say's SIOCSIFFLAGS resource temporarily unavailable
[07:30] <Ky|e> used to work fine
[07:30] <Ky|e> lappy onboard wireless
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  it installs grub to the bootloader on the first hard drive.  it dosent matter if theres an OS on it or not.
[07:30] <SubbyWolfy> hello
[07:30] <apoloeo12> dr_W: even sdb then? no?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> it installs it to the MBR of whatever drive you tell it to.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> install it to all the drives.. :)
[07:31] <apoloeo12> Ok i jus dont wanna mess up heh
[07:31] <mralexandro> is there any stable dock for ubuntu 9.04. i tried cairo dock but did not work very well, unstable
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  gnome-do has a dock like theme+shelf feature.
[07:31] <apoloeo12> just curious: the bootloader is a file? or it only writes on the first sector?
[07:32] <Pseudo_Bob> Hey, I'm on my mom's laptop, which I installed Ubuntu on for when I use it.  She's running low on disk space for Windows, though, so what I'd like to do is either get rid of Ubuntu or if possible move more space onto the Windows partition
[07:32] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i am sorry i do not understand, is gnome do a software of some kind then?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-do
[07:33] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:my mbr seems to be screwed, i get grub loading error 22
[07:33] <Pseudo_Bob> I have GParted open right now, but I'm being assured I could cause some kind of mass destruction so I figured I should get some help.
[07:33] <apoloeo12> dr_willis: just curious: the bootloader is a file? or it only writes on the first sector?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> once you get your gnome-do fu skills going you dont need no dock. :)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  grub tools install a proper bootloader to the master bootrecord of the drive.
[07:33] <apoloeo12> OK
[07:33] <Pseudo_Bob> What exactly does unmounting a partition do?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Pseudo_Bob:  disconnectes it from the filesystem 'tree'
[07:34] <RDove> when i do a | grep -i .com, it matches just the com part... is there a way to make it match ".com" with the .
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Pseudo_Bob:  :)
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Pseudo_Bob:  makes it where its not accessable from the  system normally
[07:34] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:the grub restore on forums is not working for me
[07:34] <apoloeo12> dr_willis:
[07:34] <apoloeo12> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sdb
[07:34] <apoloeo12> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/root/boot': No such file or directory
[07:34] <Seventoes> I installed the latest NVidia drivers for my GeForce GT 130M but when I boot up I get 6 of the same 640x480 screens mirrored on my one laptop display :-/
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  some times - it pays to just go read grub docs and learn how it works.. Its hard to remote admin it.
[07:35] <Pseudo_Bob> dr_willis: Hm.  If I unmount the one with Ubuntu installed will that cause the computer to explode if I'm using Ubuntu on it right now?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  now.. IS your installed system mounted to /media/root ? I  am guessing Not.
[07:35] <apoloeo12> oh holdo n
[07:35] <Schmitty> exit
[07:35] <SubbyWolfy8> -looks around- anyone wana chat? ^^
[07:35] <savanny1976u> apoloeo12, go to bios and boot from different drive, had the same problem before, you exceeded your cylinders limit by having 3 hard drive, your grub is confused can not see all of them or is confused were to start, so it gives an error message.
[07:36] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i installed gnome do, but how do i start it:D <embarrased>
[07:36] <laloin> nothing to be embarrased bout it
[07:36] <Gnea> !ubuntu | SubbyWolfy8
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  windowkey-space
[07:36] <laloin> I'm still on the fence bout unbuntu
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  time to check the gnome-do homepage/docs :) and  enable the shelf plugin also.
[07:36] <savanny1976u> gnome, click session, check gnome and log.
[07:36] <apoloeo12> dr_willis: it seemed to be mounted, but is this refering to linux? if so its already mounted... but if its /media.... i cud be missing soemthing else???
[07:37] <inhotteb> Hello. How can I watch DVD from folder on my HDD?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  use the 'mount' command and see  where its mounted to.. and use the proper path in that grub command you were trying
[07:37] <Gnea> inhotteb: mplayer can playback vob files
[07:37] <fever> hello helpful people anyone out there using TuxOnIce with Jaunty?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis>  apoloeo12  one normally mounts things to subdirs in /media/whatever
[07:37] <Gnea> !anyone | fever
[07:38] <Pseudo_Bob> So should I just go ahead and unmount the Ubuntu partiton?
[07:38] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:I had a windows and ubuntu and I deleted the ubutu partitions , now  from live cd I cant see even menu.lst and the restore stuff like root and setup is also helping, what  might be wrong ?
[07:38] <laloin> anybody able to play world of warcraft and everquest 2 using ubunto?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  what are you trying to acomplish? if you deleted linux.. then you dont need to use grub..
[07:38] <savanny1976u> Gnea, install medibuntu
[07:38] <Pseudo_Bob> laloin: I know it's possible to play WoW using Wine
[07:38] <Gnea> savanny1976u: what?
[07:38] <Pseudo_Bob> laloin: Hold on a sec.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Pseudo_Bob:  yes it is.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Pseudo_Bob
[07:39] <savanny1976u> did you install medibuntu?
[07:39] <laloin> yes I've seen it run via wine
[07:39] <Gnea> !wow | laloin
[07:39] <savanny1976u> pas loin du tous
[07:39] <Gnea> savanny1976u: I'm not the one with the issue here...
[07:39] <apoloeo12> savanny: uhmm... can I get back to you? :)
[07:40] <Gnea> !pm | inhotteb
[07:40] <laloin> heh I never got this sort of support using windows
[07:40] <apoloeo12> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/253951/
[07:40] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: you are probably to busy now, but is it posible to get a walk trough. i could not find that document page on their website
[07:40] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:I want to reinstall linux, but not able to , as gparted gets hanged while scanning devices, so I thought I should try to reboot in windows, but my grub gives me error 22 ?
[07:40] <Gnea> laloin: well, that's because we're better :)
[07:40] <Pseudo_Bob> You do very good work, Doc.  Must be hard putting up with all the newbies...
[07:40] <kiran_> how to remove linux from my system
[07:40] <laloin> well I'm still on the fence bout using ubuntu
[07:40] <savanny1976u> pourquoi?
[07:40] <Seventoes> anyone ever had the NVidia drivers show them their screen 6 times on the same monitor? :(
[07:40] <fever> Ok... positive experiences using TuxOnIce with Jaunty? particularly with an acer laptop... having suspend/hibernate issues...
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  dev/sdc5 on /media/disk type ext3    <---------- try that path for the command perhaps? or LOOK and see if theres a 'boot' directory in  that path
[07:41] <kiran_> anyone hear me
[07:41] <laloin> is the doc a bot?
[07:41] <Ghoti> kiran_: no, we cannot.
[07:41] <Gnea> laloin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft  is a bit more focused
[07:41] <bandit> moin
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> laloin:  not  last i checked.
[07:41] <Gnea> !english | savanny1976u
[07:41] <Pseudo_Bob> kiran: lmgtfy.com
[07:41] <kiran_> no i have dual boot system and i wanna remove ububntu please suggest me
[07:41] <Pseudo_Bob> Crap.
[07:41] <laloin> sorry doc, used to dealing with bots
[07:42] <Pseudo_Bob> Bah forget it.
[07:42] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis:I want to reinstall linux, but not able to , as gparted gets hanged while scanning devices, so I thought I should try to reboot in windows, but my grub gives me error 22 ?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  delete the linux partitions.. reinstall the windows bootloader.. reformat the deleted partitions.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  you removed the bootloader files.. grub is now broken.
[07:42] <savanny1976u> Sorry, I was confused
[07:42] <laloin> you should get paid for this doc :)
[07:42] <Gnea> np
[07:42] <kiran_> when i am going to format that drive on windows boot loader it shows error message
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> laloin:  i get a lot of 'dirty looks' does that count?
[07:42] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis: ooops, how do I fix it please ?
[07:42] <laloin> hahahhahahahah doc :)
[07:43] <Gnea> kiran_: why do you want to remove ubuntu?
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: what kind of error msg?
[07:43] <laloin> I get lots of funny looks when I'm reading up on unbuntu
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  not sure..   gparted hanging is. weird.. try booting a gparted live cd. and use that to delete the partitions.. then reboot the ubuntu installer disk and reinstall.
[07:43] <laloin> people ask me, you mean there is something else besides windows
[07:43] <kiran_> windows cannot remove the partition bcoz its used by the other operating system
[07:43] <Pseudo_Bob> What Windows programs can I get that will work like Gparted to reformat my Ubuntu partition?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> windows has no clue what to do with a ext2/3 filesstem. but  the windows tools should be able to delete it.
[07:44] <Ghoti> Pseudo_Bob: there's PartitionMagic, but it's not free.
[07:44] <Gnea> Pseudo_Bob: that question is better asked in ##windows
[07:44] <Pseudo_Bob> Right, sorry
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> I just use gparted live cd's all the time.
[07:44] <richardcavell> Pseudo_Bob: you don't need to use Windows.
[07:44] <Gnea> !gparted
[07:44] <kiran_> suggest me that tools that allow me to delete the ext3 partitions
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> several are repair/restore disks at disrtowatch.com
[07:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: you can use ubuntu live cd to do that.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  try one of those live cds like the parted magic one,
[07:45] <kiran_> ya iam tried but not works
[07:45] <Ghoti> kiran_: in Linux, fdisk.  In Windows, Disk Mangler^H^H^H^Hager
[07:45] <laloin> well the ubuntu live cd is sitting in front of me, calling me
[07:45] <Gnea> kiran_: the livecd will do it, then boot into windows after to reclaim it
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  its how its done.. or use the linux 'fdisk' command from a live cd. i guess.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Gnea:  he cant boot into windows.. grub is broken
[07:46] <kiran_> ya
[07:46] <Gnea> which is why i asked why you wanted to remove ubuntu and you never answered
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> partedMagic or the 'system rescue live cd' both have tools to restore the windows mbr i think.
[07:46] <laloin> nighters
[07:46] <Pseudo_Bob> richardcavell: Well, I think I do only because I want to reformat the partition I'm currently on.
[07:46] <kiran_> bcoz i wanna migrate to linux mint
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> people seem to think they have to 'delete' uubuntu to reinstall it.. the installer can just reformat the partitions.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  you are better off not using Mint.
[07:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: use ubuntu live cd if u cannot boot to windows. then use gparted. install it from the internet first.
[07:47] <Pseudo_Bob> It's amazing how many people on here are trying to get rid of Ubuntu all the time.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  there was no need to 'delete' ubuntu to do that eitehr.
[07:47] <Gnea> kiran_: why not just pop the mint cd in the drive and install over ubuntu?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Pseudo_Bob:  actually i dont see that many...
[07:47] <richardcavell> Pseudo_Bob: boot to a live CD
[07:47] <arleslie> is there anyway to do a remote ubuntu install, I have a friend who sells VPSs and at the moment he has to manuly install linux him self, is there a way he can do it remotely?
[07:47] <apoloeo12> dr_w: I seem to be returning a help menu after I tyoped this command: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk type ext3 /dev/sdb
[07:47] <kiran_> can i browse windows ntfs drives through the linux mint
[07:47] <Pseudo_Bob> richardcavell: Ugh.  Didn't think of that.  Thanks much.
[07:48] <Ghoti> arleslie: many VPS companies offer Ubuntu images to create the containers with.
[07:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: dont know about linux mint, but from ubuntu live cd you can.
[07:48] <Gnea> !netboot | arleslie
[07:48] <arleslie> Ghoti, he runs the VPS company himself
[07:49] <kiran_> can you suggest me that which versions can support the access of the windows drives
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  yes..  most all linux live cds can access ntfs drives
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> kiran_:  theres very few linux disrtos that CANT these days.. its a common feature
[07:49] <Ghoti> kiran_: all current Linux distributions can handle NTFS drives.
[07:49] <kiran_> i wanna migrate to it so i can access as long as
[07:49] <Ghoti> (Hardware permitting)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  'think' :) it wants JUST the path.. you are giving it all the extra data from that mount command thats not what it wanted.. it wants just --root-directory=/media/disk
[07:50] <Ghoti> arleslie: Boot a VM with the Ubuntu Server ISO, install, set up a base image, and use that to create new Ubuntu VPSs with.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  its just wanting the path to the files to use.
[07:50] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: how do i access gnome do settings?
[07:51] <jeeez> hi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them??
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  when ya window-space theres a button /menu
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  top right corner.. a little arrow..
[07:51] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: yes i saw it, but gnome closed when i started moving in applications, i found the switch to set it as a dock even, but know it is gone
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  theres also a setting to have it always show up a systray icon
[07:52] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: yes but i can not access the settings know cause i can not find it:(
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  i enabled that.  the win-space arrow works here if i just win-space then use the mouse
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  so you are saying win-space dont work any more?
[07:52] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: yes that is correct
[07:52] <mralexandro> it did but now it doesnt
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  perhaps gnome-do crashed... rerun the app
[07:53] <mralexandro>  i did in terminal, but when i close terminal gnome close too
[07:53] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis:  any other way of re launching it?
[07:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: use the latest ubuntu.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  PROPER way to close the terminal.. 'gnome-do &' then use the 'exit' command.. NOT the close button at the top right.
[07:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: ubuntu 9.04
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  or alt-f2  -> gnome-do
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  or use gnome-do icon in the menus
[07:53] <kiran_> i wanna migrate from ubuntu
[07:54] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kiran_: from ubuntu to which operating system?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  accessories -> gnome do
[07:54] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: ah ok thanks i have it there now, but the settings arrow is not thre
[07:54] <godmodegrafix> im dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can view my file, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?
[07:54] <Gnea> kiran_: please visit the linux mint irc channel, get their livecd, and use that
[07:54] <aaron11> helo
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  you changed themes then.. look  about i guess..
[07:54] <apoloeo12> dr_will: yeah I just realized that.... *looks at time* 3:10... heh
[07:54] <psi-jack> Oy.. So, it boiled down to one bad memory card.
[07:54] <Gnea> !mintsupport | kiran_
[07:54] <apoloeo12> but here...http://paste.ubuntu.com/253955/
[07:54] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis:  i will reinstall it i think
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  that is 'windows' thinking. and proberly wont change anything
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  reinstalling an app will NOT reset the users settings
[07:55] <gOLdenHaWK3D> bye guys! :D
[07:55] <godmodegrafix> im dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can access the files, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows on the itunes folder, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?
[07:55] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: oh ok, yeah i am usualy a windows user:/
[07:56] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: is there any other way for me to acces the gnome-do settings?
[07:56] <kiran_> i wanna get more advanced desktop effects
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  proberly is.. but i would have to read up at the gnome-do homepage to figure it out
[07:57] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: oh ok i see
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  when ya win-space do you see a systry icon for gnome-do? a purple square with a snowflake in it.
[07:57] <Ghoti> !ccsm | kiran_
[07:57] <aaron11> Dr_Willis: Do you know how to switch btween splash screens
[07:57] <Ghoti> aaron11: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[07:57] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i have already changed theme to docked, so nope it is already there, i can search in it when i press windows space
[07:57] <majnoon> Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.
[07:57] <majnoon> — Bernard Haisch
[07:58] <aaron11> what will that do
[07:58] <kiran_> why all the gnome themes are not supported
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  if using'docked'  i though there was an ICOn in the dock to get to the settings.
[07:58] <Ghoti> aaron11: that will allow you to select between your installed spash screens
[07:58] <psi-jack> But, so far, the installation stuff is STILL pretty effing slow for Ubuntu.
[07:58] <bucky> google can help a lot
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  you may needed to enable the shelf plugin also
[07:59] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: hmm i can not seem to find that one, and the shelf plugin i have a hard time enabling without prefrenses or settings
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Using_Do
[07:59] <aaron11> Ghoti: its asking for numbers
[08:00] <apoloeo12> Dr_wil: did you get my msg?
[08:00] <godmodegrafix> im dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted windows so that i can access the files, however i cant play the songs that i have on windows on the itunes folder, through ubuntu's rythm box. What do i do?
[08:00] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[08:00] <aaron11> Ghoti: oh ok got it
[08:00] <silv3r_m00n> can I run apache , php , mysql , python on netbook remix of ubuntu ... on a acer or samsung netbook ?
[08:00] <kiran_> hi here
[08:01] <godmodegrafix> aaronll: im sure you can
[08:01] <Ghoti> silv3r_m00n: you can run anything you care to install
[08:01] <TwoTwenty> godmodegrafix: have you tried double clicking on them and opening them with standard program
[08:01] <aaron11> Ghoti: thanks
[08:01] <aaron11> lol i know
[08:01] <Ivoz> silv3r_m00n: sure, I'm not sure if they're on there by default, but should be easy to put them on if not
[08:01] <Ghoti> aaron11: my pleasure! :)
[08:01] <kiran_> i wanna more gnome themes please suggest me
[08:01] <silv3r_m00n> fine
[08:01] <kiran_> anyone
[08:01] <kiran_> wat fine
[08:02] <godmodegrafix> twotwenty: standard program is a video player..wont read it at all
[08:02] <silv3r_m00n> by the way is there any kubuntu netbook remix ?
[08:02] <aaron11> kiran_:wait for people
[08:02] <Ghoti> kiran_: http://www.gnome-look.org/ should have plenty of ideas for you
[08:02] <bucky> kiran_: apt-cache search themes |grep gnome
[08:02] <aaron11> silv3r_m00n: can you make your name easier
[08:03] <kiran_> ghoti_that not lot and when i am going to install it shows error message
[08:03] <silv3r_m00n> aaron11: like ?
[08:03] <aaron11> silv3r: silver
[08:03] <psi-jack> What in the effing world would cause the Ubuntu installer to load slowly, pass between dialog to dialog slowly, and mind you 100% text mode in the Alternate Install Disc... It's driving me absolutely nuts, cause on my Pentium 3 733, it was fast as heck, but on my P4 2.8 HT with 3gb RAM, it's running slow as molasses.
[08:04] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i found the do preferences, now i activated the shelf plugin, what exactly will it do
[08:04] <jeeez> hi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them??
[08:04] <Ghoti> psi-jack: run top an another terminal to see if there's something dogging down the system perhaps?
[08:04] <user01> Hi everyone! Is there a list, containing the Semantic Web supporting companies somewhere? Or would I have to compile it myself from the active working groups pages?
[08:04] <kiran_> anyone read me
[08:04] <godmodegrafix> need help you guys :(
[08:04] <psi-jack> Ghoti: DURING install? before even the kernel finishes loading?
[08:04] <godmodegrafix> drunk and high and need to listen to music
[08:05] <bucky> psi-jack: type top and see what's eating up your resources
[08:05] <user01> kiran_, YES
[08:05] <godmodegrafix> please dont let me boot windows :(
[08:05] <psi-jack> bucky: Maybe you didn't read anything I said?
[08:05] <kiran_> user01
[08:05] <bucky> psi-jack: maybe not
[08:05] <kiran_> user01 noname
[08:05] <Ghoti> psi-jack: if you're in the installer, you should be able to hit alt-F2 and get another terminal, from which you can run top
[08:05] <kiran_> hello user01
[08:06] <user01> kiran_, what do you mean, noname?
[08:06] <jeeez> hi. i have right click and icons disabled on my desktop, how do i enable them?? anyone??
[08:06] <kiran_> nothing
[08:06] <psi-jack> Ghoti: Yeah, umm... During install, nothing but the installer itself is running for the most part.
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  dosent seem to do what i thought it did. i though it controlled what was on teh doc.. You found the purple icon on the  docky bar Im guessing?
[08:06] <kiran_> sorry
[08:06] <bucky> kiran_:  install some themes from the repos if you don't like them go find some others on gnome look
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  thers also some way to type 'do-perferances' or somthingto get to the settings but i cant figure that out
[08:06] <Ghoti> psi-jack: that's why I suggested the other virtual terminals, accessable through alt-F1 through F6
[08:06] <kiran_> ok
[08:07] <bucky> kiran_: themes should be a drag and drop affair in System->Preferences if you dl one from the internet
[08:07] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: no i had to space windows then type preferences, the only way i can access the preferenses, the dock will have a lot of random icons on it, to bad the shelf plugin does not let you put what you want in it
[08:07] <psi-jack> Ghoti: Yeah, been using Linux since pre 1.0.0, dude. *chuckles* Ubuntu's installer is the only installer that goes this slow.. OpenSUSE's was blazing fast. FreeBSD's, done in minutes total install, etc.
[08:07] <bucky> Ghoti: ctl-alt F#
[08:08] <aaron11> if some1 needs help with themes then go to the link provided : http://www.gnome-look.org/ (this link was hand writen
[08:08] <bucky> psi-jack: if you
[08:08] <bucky> psi-jack: if you
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  not sure what it does  really - the doc for shelf are a little vague
[08:08] <z3ro3x> When you click on the Search button in Nautilus you're supposed to get more options in the window just above the files and folders. Well I'm not getting those options.   Reaaally? D'uh.. :p
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> apoloeo12:  aha. ya got to type "perferances' properly. i was trying  'Do Perferances'
[08:09] <bucky> psi-jack: what are you installing to some crappy usb drive?
[08:09] <psi-jack> bucky, Ghoti: See the funny thing is, DURING install, when you activate a terminal on tty2, you get BusyBox, which has no top.
[08:09] <apoloeo12> sorry I dont understand
[08:09] <psi-jack> bucky: No, DVD-ROM drive.
[08:09] <Kolimbo> how do i bring up the console, if i am in a game for example?
[08:09] <bucky> psi-jack: and what's your internet connection... wireless?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  it also rembers/learns what you launch so it puts them first in the list
[08:10] <Ghoti> psi-jack: Interesting, and, were I in your shoes, mildly annoying.
[08:10] <psi-jack> bucky: No, wired.
[08:10] <bucky> psi-jack: you're installing to a DVD disk?
[08:10] <psi-jack> bucky: FROM a CDROM via a DVD-ROM drive.
[08:10] <Ghoti> Kolimbo: depends on to which console you refer, and which game if you are refering to a game's console
[08:10] <bucky> psi-jack: cause you were in here before asking about how long it should take to format a drive
[08:10] <psi-jack> bucky: Umm. No. I wasn't.
[08:11] <psi-jack> bucky: Since I never use the badblocks, formatting generally takes seconds.
[08:11] <bucky> psi-jack: so what does top say?
[08:12] <psi-jack> bucky: Did you not read what I said, AGAIN?
[08:12] <bucky> psi-jack: so what does top say?
[08:12] <psi-jack> Obviously not.
[08:12] <bucky> psi-jack: do you want help or do you want to wine
[08:12] <Ghoti> bucky: please a> pay attention, and b> kindly stop repeating yourself.
[08:12] <bucky> #whine
[08:12] <psi-jack> bucky: BusyBox doesn't have top!
[08:13] <Gnea> bucky: enough.
[08:13] <bucky> Gnea: he's been using linux since version 1.01
[08:13] <bucky> i can tell
[08:13] <psi-jack> bucky: Pre 1.0.0, actually, thank you very much.
[08:13] <Gnea> psi-jack: if you want to know how long it takes to format your drive, just run it like this:  time mkfs.yada /dev/something
[08:13] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: that is quite interesting, so it actually lets you place icons there and it also detects most used in some sort of way?
[08:13] <Ghoti> psi-jack: the only thing I can think of off the top of my head, absent any data, is that for some reason your IDE channel is klobbering the CPU.
[08:13] <user101> Is there any way given any package I can build it statically which will statically include things like libc.so and so on?
[08:14] <Gnea> bucky: doesn't matter, your behavior is unacceptable here.
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  top 5 get added.. and you an drag/drop  to/from it..
[08:14] <psi-jack> Gnea: Umm... Dude.. I don't care how long it takes. LOL. I never asked that, though bucky seems to be filling everything up with nonsense.
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  it seems tobe a better 'dock' then many others ive tried
[08:14] <Gnea> psi-jack: ah, okay
[08:14] <Ghoti> bucky, psi-jack: No need to get into a [bleep]ing contest.. play nive, guys :)
[08:14] <Ghoti> and also nice.
[08:14] <psi-jack> nive eh? Is that akin to knives? :D
[08:15] <Ghoti> psi-jack: only in #swordplay :)
[08:15] <psi-jack> Heh
[08:15] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: you can have more than five, just resize docky and it will oopen for many many more
[08:15] <gartral> !ot | psi-jack Ghoti stop playing with nives
[08:15] <psi-jack> bucky: No, what /I/ was here asking earlier, was about Networking hardware for gigabit support for onboard NIC's like the nForce2 10/100/1000 and the 3c940 Marvell 10/100/1000, not that guy that was asking how long it too to format a 512gb hdd or whatever size it was.
[08:16] <Gnea> psi-jack: I see you were inquiring, albiet inefficiently, about the ubuntu installer
[08:16] <ramkumar_> hai
[08:16] <psi-jack> Gnea: Correct.
[08:16] <bucky> psi-jack: go back to LFS like pre 1.0
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  i got a wide desktop.. i can have lots.. :P
[08:16] <jkessler> this is too leet
[08:16] <Gnea> psi-jack: just FYI, we consider any 'bleeping' of a bad word to be the use of a bad word, since people know what you're saying. such language should be avoided here.
[08:16] <Ghoti> bucky: Seriously. Please, try to be constructive.
[08:16] <psi-jack> Gnea: Only on this one system, so far, does the Ubuntu installer run painfully slow.. So slow with the fbcons mode for text mode, it was so slow just drawing the screen. I had to use the boot option to stop fbcons from being used.
[08:16] <gogeta> lol
[08:17] <Gnea> psi-jack: what cpu/mem?
[08:17] <Ghoti> Gnea: that was me who bleeped. :p
[08:17] <bucky> psi-jack: use the text mode... like linux is supposed to be
[08:17] <Gnea> Ghoti: heh, if you scrollback to psi-jack's original question, you'll see what I mean :)
[08:17] <gogeta> lol
[08:17] <bazhang> gogeta, ??
[08:17] <xray7224> hey guys
[08:17] <Gnea> hey xray7224
[08:18] <Ghoti> Gnea: fair enough :)
[08:18] <ramkumar_> how i auto mount the partitions in my ubuntu...
[08:18] <psi-jack> Gnea: Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT, 3gb DDR1 400MHz memory, running single-channel for now cause I found one of the 4 sticks were bad, 6 HDD's, DVD-ROM, DVD-RW, USB-based MMC/SD/MS/CF/SM drive, etc
[08:18] <Ghoti> ramkumar_: see 'man mount'
[08:18] <Gnea> !fstab | ramkumar_
[08:18] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i think this gnome do will be very very useful and that you gave me a more complete solutin than just a dock, hope it does not steel to much performance
[08:18] <bening> how can I change ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.04.
[08:18] <gogeta> bazhang: im half asleep
[08:18] <bazhang> gogeta, please chat elsewhere
[08:18] <Ghoti> bening: you need to upgrade to 8.10 first, and then from 8.10 to 9.04
[08:18] <StraightDave> hi guys, anyway to make mouse cursor move, ina remote ssh environment ?
[08:18] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[08:18]  * xray7224 <3 fstab :P
[08:18] <ramkumar_> ya i seen but it is mount only in root not in normal user..
[08:19] <silv3r_m00n> this ubuntu netbook remix is a .img file... how do I install it in my netbook ?
[08:19] <gogeta> bazhang: you ask and i havent even spoke yet
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  compared to the total Poopoo i see in other 'docks' its at least useable. :)
[08:19] <Ivoz> The change password dialog just stays busy in ubuntu 9.04 when I change it. Does it take a really long time to do or something?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  you 'dd' it to a usb flash drive..
[08:19] <psi-jack> Gnea: Keeping in mind, OpenSUSE, FreeBSD, even Fedora's installer, was blazing fast, it's just Ubuntu's that's running slow as molasses.
[08:19] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, there is an imagewriter deb you can download
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> silv3r_m00n:  i think the unr download page gives details on how to do it  in windows and linux
[08:19] <gogeta> bazhang: other the laughing at those 2 fight
[08:19] <acro-asarva_> what does this do?
[08:19] <Gnea> psi-jack: so, pretty decent. hrm. the installer isn't exactly optimized for any specific system, so different systems, despite newer specs, can sometimes respond slow during the installation phase, especially if the hardware itself isn't configured to the kernel right - ever tried doing a pci=routeirq?
[08:19] <acro-asarva_> :(){ :|:& };:
[08:19] <Ghoti> !danger
[08:20] <Gnea> psi-jack: and that's just on the one system?
[08:20] <ramkumar_> if i delete the image initrd.img then how i boot my ubuntu/fedora?
[08:20] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: agreed, problem solved, thousand thanks, times to move on to my next one, thanks alot!:D
[08:20] <acro-asarva_> :(){ :|:& };:
[08:20] <acro-asarva_> ?
[08:20] <apoloeo12> what command???
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  somehow the gnomedo perferances ion got added to the dock now. :)
[08:20] <psi-jack> Gnea: Yes, so far.. Though admittedly this is the only system yet I've done 8.04.3 on. I did install eBox 1.2, which is based on Ubuntu 8.04.2, on a Pentium 3 733 with 256mb RAM, and it was done before my system even got to the Partition Manager!
[08:20] <gogeta> Ghoti: what dd thats not dangres
[08:20] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i have it there because it is my most used one:D
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> acro-asarva_:  does an infinate loop.. google for it to learn more.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  becuase its the most used recently i guess. :)
[08:21] <Ghoti> gogeta: no, acro-asarva_ is the one that invoked the !danger
[08:21] <Gnea> psi-jack: interesting. 8.04, while is it the LTS release, is still considered a bit of a dinosaur to newer hardware. have you tried 9.04?
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> just to make it clear 'dd' CAN be dangerous..if you make a typo...
[08:21] <Ghoti> acro-asarva_: that's a fork bomb; do not run that command.
[08:21] <ramkumar_> you see about that command in http://linuxmonk.org
[08:21] <xray7224> i have got to admit i have no idea what the thing he/she does
[08:21] <gogeta> acro-asarva_: issuing dd for image file is fine
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> make SURE you dd to the proper usb device.. :)
[08:21] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: and i found that you can right click the gnome-do icon and see prefrenses for the gnome do program, pluss some quick settings
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  yes. :) i was goingto mention that.. but you said you found the perferances allready
[08:22] <psi-jack> Gnea: No, not yet. I wanted 8.04 because of the stability, quote-unquote.  And because I wanted to be able to fully try out a full-scale eBox setup. I have 9.04-server installed on my router box, and two database server computers.
[08:22] <Ghoti> (I was not saying 'dd' is !danger-ous, though like any command, it can be used to ill effect (: )
[08:22] <Gnea> Ghoti: that person was purporting destructive commands earlier
[08:22] <ramkumar_> hi friends plz reply for this If i delete the image initrd.img then hoe i boot my ubunt?
[08:22] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis:  i think i figured the shelf function: right click an app there, and you will see it says add to shelf!
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  yes.. but what is a shelf then?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  thats what i never noticed in the docs
[08:23] <Gnea> psi-jack: okay. so is this geared toward a work computer or a personal one?
[08:23] <gogeta> Gnea: Dr_Willis would not issue a destructiv command
[08:23] <Gnea> gogeta: no, acro-asarva_
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  with dd - all it takes is a typo.. :)
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  and i learned that  the hard way. :)
[08:24] <Ghoti> Dr_Willis: or with mv, or cp, or rm, or many other two character commands :)
[08:24] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: i think it is a function that let you bypass most used value and let the app stay untouched in its possition, disregarding the fact that it is used less than top apps
[08:24] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: usefull if its a .img otherwise use cp or mv
[08:24] <psi-jack> Gnea: It's geared towards a large home network of computers. I have a server farm here I'm putting together, and a audio/video streaming farm, comprised of about 20 computers in total.
[08:24] <Ivoz> Would anyone mind seeing if in ubuntu 9.04 System > Preferences > About Me > Change Password dialog works? It just goes busy and does nothing... the user accounts tool works though.
[08:24] <psi-jack> Gnea: I installed 9.04-server on the other few systems, before I heard about eBox. ;)\
[08:24] <Gnea> psi-jack: so it's a personal system. I would go ahead and recommend 9.04-desktop
[08:25] <Ghoti> Ivoz: it worked just fine over here
[08:25] <Ivoz> ghoti - weird.. im on a very new install of ubuntu, the thing just hangs but the user and groups dialog worked!
[08:25] <Ivoz> Ghoti: thanks
[08:25] <gnr> ramkumar_:have you deleted it and rebooted?
[08:25] <mralexandro> doeas anyone know if there is a way i can create a "shortcut"(yes i am an earlier windows user) to mount the windows partition with pasword already typed
[08:25] <Ghoti> Ivoz: happy to help
[08:25] <psi-jack> Gnea: I'm not certain 9.04 works with eBox 100%, for the setup, That P3/733 I mentioned earlier, is what system's going to be doing 100% authentication via LDAP.
[08:26] <Ghoti> mralexandro: add the windows partition to the fstab with the 'user' option; then anyone can mount it
[08:26] <Ghoti> !fstab | mralexandro
[08:26] <knostra> Salut
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  the thing abotu that dock (and docks) ya either clutter up the whole bottom of the screen with lots of icons.. or ya get some desktop space wasted at the sides. :)
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  guess i could put a gnome pannel to one side. :)
[08:27] <Gnea> psi-jack: I missed the bit about the p3, not sure what that has to do with running a stable system..
[08:27] <mralexandro> Ghoti: thanks
[08:27] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis:  yes and you can take away the function casuing it to stay on top
[08:27] <Ben64> mralexandro: you need to add the password there too
[08:27] <Ghoti> mralexandro: anytime; that'll be £8 :)
[08:27] <mralexandro> Ghoti: :D:D
[08:27] <psi-jack> Crap, well, my Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop CD is a frisbee.
[08:28] <Ghoti> psi-jack: that's no fun
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  well i have tried most all the docks.. and i will say - this oneis the most useable..
[08:28] <psi-jack> Heh yeah.
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  all the rest never work well.. or are lacking features
[08:28] <Ghoti> Dr_Willis: when I want a dock, I just VNC into my Mac ;)
[08:28] <gogeta> psi-jack: we call em costers
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  and the win-space feature   is the main use.. the dock is a bonus.
[08:28] <psi-jack> I burned like 4-5 frisbees recently, of Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop (server was fine though), Ubuntu 8.04-Alternate, and eBox 1.2
[08:29] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis:  the win space is the winning over ALL :)
[08:29] <psi-jack> gogeta: I'm not you. ;) :)
[08:29] <psi-jack> I call 'em frisbees. heh
[08:29] <ramkumar_> sorry for the late gnr
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  if you can rember the special words for the plugins...
[08:29] <Ghoti> psi-jack: sure your drive and/or media aren't borked?
[08:29] <ramkumar_> i haven,t deleted but i want to know?
[08:29] <gogeta> psi-jack: tryn to make a ebox work?
[08:29] <psi-jack> It's all good hardware.
[08:29] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: and i have never seen anything smarter than this lancher/dock, it is my new fav
[08:29] <psi-jack> gogeta: A series of them, yep.
[08:29] <Simon_Wang> when sending email with kmail, for the message of authentication support is not compiled into kio_smtp
[08:30] <Simon_Wang> how to solve
[08:30] <gogeta> psi-jack: issue?
[08:30] <Ghoti> psi-jack: I've had a bad batch of CDRs waste three days in trying to figure out some strange behavior
[08:30] <Ben64> mralexandro:
[08:30] <Ben64> /<IP_ADDRESS>/share     /mnt/point               smbfs   username=[user],password=[password],uid=[uid],gid=[gid],users,noauto 0 0
[08:30] <Ben64> thats what i use
[08:30] <Ghoti> psi-jack: then I noticed the media layer wasn't actually adhered to the plastic disc.  Good times.
[08:30] <Ben64> then i just type "mount /mnt/point" in my terminal and it mounts
[08:30] <gnr> ramkumar_:then read bout initrd, if you the guts then delete it :)
[08:30] <Ben64> dont need sudo
[08:30] <Ghoti> Ben64: isn't it 'user', not 'users'?
[08:31] <mralexandro> Ben64: thanks :) that was a helping hand.i was unsure about the setup
[08:31] <Ben64> i have users *shrug*
[08:31] <gogeta> psi-jack: your not just droping the iso on a disk are you
[08:31] <Ghoti> Ben64: if it works, it works :)
[08:31] <user101> Is there any way given any package I can build it statically which will statically include things like libc.so and so on?
[08:31] <psi-jack> gogeta: Of course not. :p
[08:31] <ramkumar_> what u mean gnr... i can,t understand..
[08:31] <psi-jack> Heh, well, holy heck.
[08:31] <psi-jack> 9.04-Server, booted up smooth and fast as heck.
[08:31] <gogeta> psi-jack: be suprised how many do
[08:32] <psi-jack> Guess I could just install 9.04-server and install ubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <ramkumar_> ok...sorry i will learn about it...
[08:32] <Ghoti> gogeta: I wouldn't be, heh
[08:32] <ramkumar_> and we will discuss later..
[08:32] <ramkumar_> how i edit an Os like ubuntu any idea plz...
[08:32] <Keiffer> how do you generate passwords from terminal?
[08:33] <psi-jack> The 9.04 "Live Desktop" still doesn't support LVM, correct? Only the Alternate mode?
[08:33] <livingdaylight> hello
[08:33] <mralexandro> Ben64: why the ip adress?
[08:33] <Ghoti> Keiffer: look into the pwgen package
[08:33] <Ben64> oh, you should put in the ip of the computer you want to access from
[08:33] <Ben64> i was just making stuff up
[08:33] <livingdaylight> question: i've installed samba to allow my two ubuntu machines to share folders
[08:34] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: that's a statement.
[08:34] <livingdaylight> but cant access.. won't accept password
[08:34] <ramkumar_> why ubuntu 9.04 doesn,t have wvdial
[08:34] <aaron11> Ben64:what do you want
[08:34] <kamil> hi
[08:34] <mralexandro> Ben64: i got it, but it is not neccessary at a local mount right?
[08:34] <Ben64> aaron-: one billion dollars
[08:34] <Ghoti> ramkumar_: yes it does
[08:34] <ramkumar_> i think samba is to share the folders with Windows and linux
[08:34] <livingdaylight> I've right-clicked and gone share options it automatically installed samba - i can see the folders but can't mount them
[08:34] <Ben64> mralexandro: it does need an ip to work
[08:35] <Ben64> or a hostname could work, but i find that less reliable
[08:35] <ramkumar_> but while i am trying there is no wvdial ghoti
[08:35] <Ivoz> I installed firestarter on ubuntu 9.04, but it seems to be blocking from from viewing windows shares. Samba is enabled, but the firewall is seeing an unknown service connect on a pretty random port whenever i try to open a windows computer on the network. Can i configure samba differently or something?
[08:36] <Ghoti> ramkumar_: http://pastebin.com/f26477529
[08:36] <mralexandro> Ben64: so in my case the ip should be what ip my local computer display for lan or something?
[08:36] <Ben64> whatever computer that has the share you want mounted
[08:37] <livingdaylight> anyone know why i can't mount my files?
[08:37] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: is there a reason you're wanting to use samba to share between two Linux boxen rather than, say, NFS or SSHFS?
[08:37] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: because that is what was recommended
[08:37] <psi-jack> Or even better, Coda?
[08:37] <arpad_> hi i got a problem with a display driver, after grub i can't see shit. what would be the solution for me, please help
[08:37] <mralexandro> Ben64: /dev/sdax then ? :D it is on this computer on the same disk
[08:37] <Ghoti> !language | arpad_
[08:37] <ugliefrog> is there any voice command programs for ubuntu
[08:37] <Ghoti> psi-jack: Note to self: look at Coda
[08:38] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: also when i right-click on a folder and choose share option Ubuntu automatically installs and uses samba
[08:38] <Ben64> mralexandro: why do you want to mount a drive as samba?
[08:38] <Ben64> seems pretty redundant
[08:38] <Ivoz> how do u configure samba?
[08:38] <psi-jack> Ghoti: There's other good distributed filesystems too, but Coda allows offline access which is REAAAAALLY nice.
[08:38] <aaron11> !language | Ben64
[08:38] <Ghoti> !samba | ivoz
[08:38] <psi-jack> Ghoti: And 100% supported by Linux.
[08:38] <Ben64> what?
[08:38] <bazhang> aaron11, ??
[08:38] <arpad_> hi i got a problem with a display driver, after grub i can't see nothing. what would be the solution for me, please hel
[08:38] <Ben64> redundant?
[08:38] <Ben64> not a bad word, check it out
[08:38] <arpad_> sorry about the bad word
[08:39] <aaron11> dont TAKE it seriously
[08:39] <bazhang> aaron11, joke elsewhere
[08:39] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: any ideas?
[08:39] <aaron11> i just wanted to try it out
[08:39] <aaron11> new to IRC
[08:39] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: Wish I could help, but I haven't set up Samba in a long time
[08:39] <bazhang> aaron11, /msg ubottu
[08:39] <spO> there is ubuntu , kubuntu, and xubuntu,  is there any more ubuntu?
[08:39] <majnoon> !ot
[08:39] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: if you right click on a folder and want to share it installs samba
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you may need to install the 'samba' package befor that shareing stuff works
[08:40] <Ben64> mralexandro: also, /dev/sdax wouldn't work for samba
[08:40] <psi-jack> Great....
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ive had issues in the past where it wouldent auto-install samba.  but that may be fixed by now.
[08:40] <zvacet1> spO:I don´t think so
[08:40] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: i should just be able to go to other box - and i do see the folder - mount it and access files, but it refuses passwords
[08:40] <psi-jack> 9.04-server stalled on "Installing the base system" at 83%, retrieving file 2 of 9
[08:40] <mralexandro> Ben64: i just want my winvista partition to automount in ubuntu, i have to use a local ip then?
[08:40] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: Yes, but I don't use Samba, I use NFS, so my ability to assist you with Samba troubles will be limited :-/
[08:40] <kamil> I have trouble with wifi - WiFi Link 5100AGN - I have a module iwl5000 that include support for my wifi but instead after sudo lsmod | grep iwl* I only have iwl4965 loaded in I run make load my computer freezes ... can somebody help me ..
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  er.. mounting a partition on the machines hard drive? thats just editing fstab..
[08:41] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: it has auto-installed samba, and i DO see the folder shared, it just won't mount
[08:41] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: if you are connectinb from box A to box B, use login credentials from box B, not A.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  mount what/where? whos mounting what?
[08:41] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: which is what i am trying to do(but i am windows user) :)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> to 'share' a windows partition on a linxu box.. you MIGHT have to have it mounted automatically via /etc/fstab so the mountpoint wont change.
[08:41] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: me, I am mounting. What? Box A from Box B
[08:42] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: yes, that is what i'm doing
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> I recall issues  once with trying to 'share' an 'automounting'  windows ntfs filesystem.
[08:42] <UnWind> Здравствуйте, есть кто ?
[08:43] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: I'm afraid that's all the Samba advice I have :(
[08:43] <UnWind> Кто по русски разговарвиает.
[08:43] <bazhang> UnWind, #ubuntu-ru
[08:43] <zvacet> !ru | UnWind:
[08:43] <Ghoti> !ru | UnWind
[08:43] <livingdaylight> :s
[08:43] <Ivoz> is there a better firewall than firestarter? it doesn't seem to be able to recognise samba
[08:43] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: hmm alright well, let me know if you find a good way of doing it:)
[08:44]  * Gonium ausente: Ausente por el momento
[08:44] <aaron11> !in
[08:44] <UnWind> Слушайте это американский канал ?
[08:44] <Ghoti> !ru | UnWind
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  i always pit my ntfs drives in /etc/fstab now a days.. i dont trust gnomes automounting of stuff.. too many issues
[08:44] <skyler> i have this problem with my wireless network, it seems to just cut off randomly
[08:44] <bazhang> UnWind, /join #ubuntu-ru
[08:44] <skyler> does anyone else have this issue?
[08:44] <ramkumar_> tell about iptables
[08:45] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis: then i will as well, problem solved:D
[08:45] <Ghoti> skyler: turn off the Tesla coil and Ven der Graff generators in the garage? :)
[08:45] <skyler> it may go hours before it does it but sometimes minutes, and it usually requires me to restart to fix it
[08:45] <skyler> haha, man i knew i shouldve thrown those things out
[08:45] <skyler> im using ubuntu 904
[08:46] <skyler> and running eeepc1005
[08:46] <mralexandro> Ben64: thanks for the effort, i had no idea what samba was and how complicated it was:)
[08:46] <Ghoti> skyler: are you using Ubuntu or Eeebuntu?
[08:46] <skyler> ubuntu
[08:47] <kamil>  I have trouble with wifi - WiFi Link 5100AGN - I have a module iwl5000 that include support for my wifi but instead after sudo lsmod | grep iwl* I only have iwl4965 loaded in I run make load my computer freezes ... can somebody help me ..
[08:47] <psi-jack> Ugh! Fricken Ubuntu installer! You'd THINK 9.04-server would actually let you setup LVM with all the LVM options, like STRIPING
[08:47] <TwoTwenty> pis-jacl: why use ubuntu server ?
[08:48] <Ghoti> *facepalm*
[08:48] <psi-jack> TwoTwenty: Maybe I'm installing a server?
[08:48] <TwoTwenty> psi-jack: why not use debian or gentoo or slackware
[08:48] <psi-jack> TwoTwenty: Why not you be quiet and stop butting into other people's distribution decisons?
[08:48] <sudobash> well you can configure ubuntu-desktop to be a sever also
[08:49] <Ghoti> TwoTwenty: is this really the place to advocate other distros? :p
[08:49] <sudobash> the only real diff are packages and config
[08:49] <TwoTwenty> psi-jack: im merely asking for reasons maybe they will become my own
[08:49] <bazhang> psi-jack, please keep it civil
[08:49] <sudobash> best servers would be unix/bsd
[08:49] <majnoon> TwoTwenty, ubuntu good enough for experts ,but also have the experts to help (when they AWAKE)
[08:49] <psi-jack> TwoTwenty: Server installs only the bare minimums, plus tasksel is equiped to install server-related packages, not desktop.
[08:49] <bazhang> TwoTwenty, better to discuss in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[08:49] <zvacet> sudobash:  and kernel of course
[08:50] <sudobash> ubuntu is plenty good for experts and noobs alike
[08:50] <majnoon> newbie friendly AND expert setups
[08:50] <gogeta> psi-jack: acully the pro mini iso installs only the basics
[08:50] <jkessler> and the noobs who think they are experts
[08:51] <majnoon> jkessler, i kinda resemble that remark
[08:51] <jkessler> it's a big category
[08:51] <psi-jack> So, I'm guessing Ubuntu's installer still only has VERY minimal LVM support, eh?
[08:51] <Ghoti> majnoon: I find that resemblance remarkable
[08:51] <sudobash> everyone does really there is always something to learn
[08:51] <gogeta> psi-jack: lvm needs tro be installed
[08:51] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: do you think samba needs to be installed on one or both systems?
[08:51] <gogeta> psi-jack: you can do it from the live cd if your doing a vlm install
[08:52] <majnoon> <--in middle but closer to newbie
[08:52] <sudobash> we only work and can do what we understand
[08:52] <gogeta> lvm
[08:52] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: the server needs to be installed on the machine hosting the files; the client on the one requesting the files from the server
[08:52] <sudobash> that goes for the devs also
[08:52] <gogeta> psi-jack: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[08:52] <skyler> does no one else have this problem though?
[08:52] <Ghoti> gogeta: methinks psi-jack's machine isn't in a place where apt-get is operational
[08:52] <psi-jack> gogeta: Yeah yeah, That's what I'm going to do, because I want my striping, and when I reconfigured it to use two logical volumes instead of one, for / and /home seperation, it went from being striped to *cringe* linear
[08:52] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: so if i want both systems to be able to access one another, both would need samba?
[08:53] <TwoTwenty> skyler: what problem
[08:53] <sudobash> sorry i missed your q skyler
[08:53] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: both would need both the server and the client
[08:53] <majnoon> i got into ubuntu because i LOVE apt-get and the people MORE friendly then #debian
[08:53] <bazhang> !ot > majnoon
[08:53] <gogeta> jkessler: noobs who think there experts rite just a certed redhat user hear i dont now a thing
[08:53] <psi-jack> gogeta: Quite frankly, with 6 120GB HDD's, linear would be kinda useless. But with Striping, it makes it SOOOOO fast.
[08:53] <sudobash> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[08:53] <skyler> my network randomly quit and usually require a restart for it to work again
[08:53] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: if both machines havce the same username - could that cause a conflict?
[08:53] <sudobash> do that on both machines
[08:53] <skyler> sometimes it stays on for hour
[08:53] <skyler> and other times just a few minutes
[08:53] <Ghoti> majnoon: I love apt-get, but I still miss portage sometimes, to be honest :)
[08:53] <Ghoti> livingdaylight: I don'e see how
[08:53] <skyler> hours*
[08:54] <majnoon> same IDEA i think Ghoti
[08:54] <TwoTwenty> skyler: are you using wireless?
[08:54] <skyler> yes
[08:54] <sudobash> skyler: msg me...
[08:54] <skyler> ubuntu 904
[08:54] <livingdaylight> Ghoti: just grasping at straws
[08:54] <TwoTwenty> skyler: what wireless card ?
[08:54] <damad_> what is a good channel for browsing for movies?
[08:54] <majnoon> takes care of the dependencies
[08:54] <sudobash> I just wrote a little tut for someone else on network troubleshooting
[08:54] <bazhang> damad_, not on this network
[08:54] <gogeta> psi-jack: or a raid0 setup
[08:54] <majnoon> sudobash, mesg me the url ??
[08:54] <psi-jack> gogeta: I prefer LVM over softraid.
[08:55] <gogeta> psi-jack: you just said lvm was useless
[08:55] <psi-jack> gogeta: LVM linear, not LVM Striping.
[08:55] <TwoTwenty> skyler: have you tried reinitializing IP through DHCP after it goes off?
[08:55] <psi-jack> gogeta: Ubuntu's Alternate installer only supports creating LVM Linear, but not Stripes.
[08:55] <Keiffer> selinux messeup up my ubuntu
[08:55] <psi-jack> Alternate and Server
[08:55] <damad_> anybody know o a good movie channel?
[08:55] <gogeta> psi-jack: oh well that setup is up to you when you setup lvm i just pointed you on how to make the installer use it
[08:55] <skyler> well, it asks for the passcode, and sometimes it works when i type it in, sometimes it doent
[08:55] <bazhang> damad_, no. stop asking here.
[08:56] <majnoon> Ghoti, there ARE some RPM based distros starting to use a form of apt-get
[08:56] <psi-jack> gogeta: The console mode installation, Server or Alternate mode, does support LVM, BUT it only lets you create linear volumes, not striped volumes.
[08:56] <zvacet> !ot | damad_
[08:56] <sudobash> http://pastebin.com/d647e5cda
[08:56] <Ghoti> majnoon: I've shoehorned apt-rpm onto centros, but it was ug-lee
[08:56] <psi-jack> gogeta: Which is very upsetting.
[08:56] <gogeta> majnoon: they have there own version of apt for years as well as yum
[08:56] <TwoTwenty> skyler: a common misconception with wireless pascodes and netowrk monitor  (the networking app in ubuntu) is the code, one is a keyring code  and the other is the wireless key
[08:57] <sudobash> it was for a specific problem but it will help you I am sure skyler
[08:57] <gogeta> psi-jack: thers a way to do it post install
[08:57] <livingdaylight> sudobash: maybe you can help me with samba here. I've been told to install samba to be able to share folders /files between two linux boxes. On the laptop i installed it via command line. On the Desktop i right-clicked on the folder and clicked on the 'share option' it automatically installed samba. Both computer can now see each others folders, but when i attempt to mount it refuses the password
[08:57] <TwoTwenty> the the wireless key is the password to wireless.. the keyring passcode is one you made the first time you setup wireless
[08:57] <psi-jack> gogeta: To change linear volumes to striped volumes, for / ? No, no there's not.
[08:57] <majnoon> with linux the good ideas USUALLY spread out to ALL distros
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  give the users samba passwords with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[08:58] <bazhang> majnoon, please take chat elsewhere
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  for linux to linux. You could also use 'nfs' or 'ssh' (or sshfs) to access files on the remote box's
[08:58] <TwoTwenty> skyler: the the wireless key is the password to wireless.. the keyring passcode is one you made the first time you setup wireless
[08:58] <sudobash> Dr_willis is right or you can allow guest access to your share for anonymous users
[08:58] <gogeta> psi-jack: yes logical volume mangment its a redhat tool ported to ubuntu has a gui to
[08:58] <sudobash> but I would just apply passwords
[08:58] <gogeta> psi-jack: we warned thow all changes are instant
[08:59] <R2D21> Ok too talk hardware?
[08:59] <bazhang> ##hardware R2D21
[08:59] <psi-jack> gogeta: Again, you can NOT convert linear volumes to striped volumes.
[08:59] <R2D21> thx
[08:59] <jkessler> lol this is like #ubuntu-directoryassistance
[08:59] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i know but earlier people on #ubuntu recommended samba, now people recommend something else :/   Ubuntu mind you automatically chose samba too when i took the right-click on folder route to explore the 'share option' I'd be happy to use NFS but samba should work too
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  all can work.. you dident mention Linux to linux.. earlier.
[08:59] <psi-jack> livingdaylight: Whomever recommended Samba for sharing files between Linux systems, was an idiot.
[09:00] <gogeta> psi-jack you dont make lvm at install you do it after
[09:00] <gogeta> psi-jack: no conversion just setup later
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:   the cifs stuff works very well for linux to linux.. but it depends on your exact needs.  plus if you ever get a windows machineonthe lan you will want to use samba.
[09:00] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: but i did earlier when i came in 6hrs ago
[09:00] <psi-jack> gogeta: Oy. My / is LVM striped over 6 drives.
[09:00] <psi-jack> gogeta: You cannot set that up, POST install.
[09:00] <gogeta> psi-jack: heh bit to late
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  I only just now saw you say  'linux to linux' its not like using samba is going to hurt anything.
[09:01] <gogeta> psi-jack: be suprised what you can do
[09:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: why is samba not a good option between linux 2 linux?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you could use samba, nfs, and sshfs all the same time.
[09:01] <xangua> hello there, i have some problem with one css that needs 2 addons to work ....... http://userstyles.org/styles/2131 ;  i have both addons installed and follower the instructions over anr over again with no results ; i hope some one can help me with this
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  samba is  a bit slower. and has limitations.  it depends on how you are going to use it.
[09:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i think i've found the issue and fixed it!
[09:01] <psi-jack> gogeta: I'd rather less headache than volume juggling / around partitions and volumes.
[09:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: what limitations?
[09:02] <majnoon> Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.— Bernard Haisch
[09:02] <bazhang> xangua, better to ask in #css
[09:02] <psi-jack> gogeta: Which is basically what you're suggesting, by doing it post install. Juggling.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  read up on the samba sites/docs  -  for one thing..   if ya make a directory called "Stuff" and another called 'stuff' :) it can get confused.
[09:02] <xangua> thanks bazhang
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  given how common samba is.. you will want to learn about it eventually
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[09:02] <gogeta> psi-jack: i prefer having my fs corhernet if the lvm is disconnected
[09:03] <gst-kaps> Dr_Willis: gparted is hanging, even in case of the live gparted cd, it says serching /dev/sda partition ?
[09:03] <gogeta> psi-jack: liner
[09:03] <bazhang> majnoon, stay on topic
[09:03] <majnoon> i USUALLY do in here
[09:03] <psi-jack> gogeta: I prefer getting the speed out of 6 drives, by using striping.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> gst-kaps:  theres options you can give gparted from the command line. Or try the 'fdisk' command I guess.. i normally use 'fdisk' for simple tasks
[09:03] <majnoon> but was basically explaining WHY i chose ubuntu that SORTA on topic
[09:04] <psi-jack> gogeta: LVM volumes can be snapshot to my external solid-state HDD in case of failure.
[09:04] <bazhang> majnoon, no, its not. #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[09:04] <psi-jack> gogeta: And thus, restored, relatively easily.
[09:04] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: but you think nfs is better between linux machines? why?
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:   nfs works very well for me.
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  for a quick 'shareing of data' i tend to use 'sshfs'
[09:05] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Curious about something. Do you use any LDAP or NIS+ for user sharing for NFS? ;)
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  i got a 5 pc lan. :) i dont use those things for it.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  i got 3 users. :)
[09:05] <psi-jack> heh
[09:05] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: apt-get install sshfs?
[09:05] <psi-jack> So you just match uid for uid on each system?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  try it and see. :)
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> !info sshfs
[09:05] <livingdaylight> 0.o
[09:06] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: I have about 20 I'm putting together, including Mini-ITX systems hooked up to my televisons to handle audio/video streaming. ;)
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  you need windows 7! that will only cost you like.... err... $80*20
[09:07] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Heh, err... NO! I cannot agree with the EULA.
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> psi-jack:  get someole else to click on it.. that way you dident agree to it.
[09:08] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Heh
[09:08] <sudobash> crap another night up until 4
[09:08] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: does it it take up much cpu energy or ram to keep folders mounted?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  i wouldent think so.
[09:08] <psi-jack> Dr_Willis: Unfortunately, it's for the system, not the person that clicks I Agree
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you going to mount 10000 of them?
[09:09] <mralexandro> is there a good radio program for ubuntu?
[09:09] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: no, /home
[09:09] <livingdaylight> just /home
[09:09] <sudobash> pandora.com works with flash in firefox
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  having /home mounted over nfs CAN have... issues :)
[09:09] <livingdaylight> not even... /home/video ; /home/Documents
[09:09] <bazhang> mralexandro, to play radio, or ubuntu podcasts
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  it sucks if your home 'server' crashes
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> that can really confuse the running apps
[09:10] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: well, i've got samba working now... where i had gone wrong was the names... I had to change from WORKGROUP to network:///
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  i tend to mount remote box's to like /nfs/machine1   and  /nfs/machine2 and so on.
[09:10] <psi-jack> Having my database server burn my Ubuntu 9.04-Desktop CD is such a pain. heh
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  set the workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf  perhaps?
[09:11] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i see you actually create a folder called /nfs
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  yes and a subdir for each macihne to keep things organized
[09:11] <sudobash> nice
[09:11] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i see, thank you
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  perment sshfs mounts in /sshfs/ :)
[09:12] <justanother> #list
[09:12] <mralexandro> bazhang: to play radio not ubuntu podcasts
[09:14] <bazhang> mralexandro, streamtuner ?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> streamtuner or tunapie is handy
[09:14] <udiio> Q: how do I easily touch the "Version" line of a deb control file from bash?
[09:14] <ideamonk> guys I copy pasted all ttf fonts of windows into my /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/ and started using them... but all im getting is squares when I use them... i tried fc-cache -v -f , where did i go wrong?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> ideamonk:  i just copy them to my users .fonts directory and reboot last time.  there was some command I never can rember to run...
[09:15] <xangua> ideamonk: to install windows fonts, adobe flash, codecs, etc: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:16] <xangua> thah only if you use ubuntu-gnome desktop
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts   Note: After you install a new font, you will need to make sure that programs in which you want to use the new fonts can recognize them. In most cases this is done by closing and reopening the programs; however, some programs may require you to log out and log back in.
[09:16] <ideamonk> xangua, woah! that easy... damn i wasted time :)
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> ideamonk:  unless you had windows fonts not included inthe restricted-extas :)
[09:17] <ideamonk> :)
[09:17] <mralexandro> bazhang: thanks
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> ideamonk:  just be thankfull linux is no longer likeit used to be where using ttf required leet-skills and haxoring code! :)
[09:18] <ideamonk> hmm i notice, the permission for ttf fonts that i copied into my fonts folder is different :)
[09:18] <xangua> mmmm i am unable to get help snif..... :((
[09:18] <^cheeky> umm hi, i really not sure how to ask this question , but i have a ubuntu server  connected to my router and i just portforwarded  http to my server, in my router does this mean .. in anyway be dangerous ?
[09:18] <ideamonk> YAAY done, i was just a chmod away... thanks guys :)
[09:19] <Adross> i have a usb flash voyager disk. 16 gig and formatted to vfat. It's not mounting in ubuntu, xp, or vista. However, in vista, i can initially browse the device, though try to open anything gives me a warning that the disk is not inserted. When inserted in ubuntu, it shows up as /dev/sdb only, there is no entry for it's partitions. Ideas?
[09:20] <enzotib_> Adross: have you tried to re-format it?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> or 'zero' the device with dd. then reformat - if just reformating fails
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> and i have seen usb-flash drives fail/break
[09:22] <Adross> yes. But vista right click/format option complains of the lack of a disk, it doesn't show up in gparted, and the mkfs command complains that No medium found while trying to determine filesystem size
[09:22] <johnny_> lol
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Adross:  may be worth the effort to 'zero' it out..
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> you have tried it on othe rmachines/usb ports?
[09:24] <co_luc> hai
[09:24] <co_luc> hai
[09:25] <Adross> Dr_Willis, right now i'm willing to contend it is. How do i do that?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Adross:  figure out the /dev/DEVICENAME (like /dev/sdi) then...
[09:26] <mralexandro> i have trouble in virtualbox. i have a virtual xp installation that i used in vista. cause i moved my xp into my vista. or into virtual disk. now i was hoping i could access my virtual xp in linux via virtual box. but i get blue screen in the start. i am sure it has to do with the way it read the hardisk. is there a spesific way that vmware set up its partition. cause i have tried mounting as both
[09:26] <mralexandro> ide and sta
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Adross:  and DONT dd the wrong device. :)
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Adross:  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/DEVICENAME
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Adross:  theres a BS=1024 option that may help if go faster
[09:26] <johnny_> too much windowz talk for a lin room...
[09:27] <^cheeky> if i port forwarded "port 80 ",  to my ubuntu server , wouldnt i be able to connect to my machine via the internet ?
[09:27] <johnny_> gives me the creeps
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> ^cheeky:  in theory yes.
[09:27] <firecrotch> ^cheeky: Usually.
[09:27] <^cheeky> Dr_Willis, hi, well um i put in my ip but it takes to my router :S
[09:28] <^cheeky> my external ip that is
[09:28] <johnny_> damn ip stealin' router..
[09:28] <^cheeky> huh ?
[09:28] <firecrotch> ^cheeky: from inside your network?