[00:00] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: What returns ' host localhost ' ?
[00:01] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, localhost has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:01] <linuxnoob011> localhost has IPv6 address ::1
[00:01] <linuxnoob011> also, the ethernet cable was not plugged in. plugged it in, but same behavior. and oddly, it pings as though the internal ethernet card has the same ip as the usb ethernet card
[00:02] <linuxnoob011> will up the result to pastebin so you can see exactly what i mean, since that isn't the most clear explanation
[00:03] <linuxnoob011> https://pastebin.com/QrdtEaL2
[00:03] <linuxnoob011> note the ip on the second ethernet device and the purported source ip of the ping on the first ethernet device
[00:03] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: While I look, what show next ' nslookup <IP_ADDRESS> ' ?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: ^^ and yeah receive side non functional " RX packets:85389 errors:85384  " . Router config issue ?? firewall ? system config ?? bad hardware ?? OH boy . what to do what to do ??
[00:20] <linuxnoob011> sorry, got called away for a min Bashing-om
[00:20] <linuxnoob011> nslookup <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:20] <linuxnoob011> Server:		<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:20] <linuxnoob011> Address:	<IP_ADDRESS>#53
[00:20] <linuxnoob011> <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa	name = localhost.
[00:21] <linuxnoob011> i have to think not firewall--nothing special to affect one device but no others
[00:21] <linuxnoob011> router config would be surprising for the same reason
[00:21] <linuxnoob011> system config is a big box, so maybe--especially re: modules
[00:21] <linuxnoob011> could see a module dooming one device but not all of them. and yes, i think bad hardware is increasingly likely
[00:22] <linuxnoob011> that said, you dont think of an ethernet device (which has seen the least use of any component in that entire system--only a few months total) as the thing to go first
[00:23] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: ' cat /etc/hosts ' ? Keep looking for a config issue .
[00:23] <jamie_1> hey, i have a question thats probably easy... but eh. If i have an ssh key and the server in trying to access, if i have the ssh key setup and running and the server has it added, is all that i have to do is access it? like via the address or will i have to go through an auth?
[00:24] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/cQbfQNXZ
[00:24] <jamie_1> never really done it before and my friend wants me to do a few thins on his server but i wanted to double check how to do it
[00:27] <demophobia> How do I set a dark theme with light text instead of the default dark text on light background?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: So far No fault found :) . what shows ' sudo lshw -C network ' ?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> demophobia: Depends on the desk top . I run xfce, chances are I can not advise further .
[00:29] <hosas> is there a way to query a the size of a docker before making a pull or something like that?
[00:29] <hosas> thks
[00:29] <demophobia> How do I set a dark theme on LXDE (i.e. lubuntu, to use light text on dark background)?
[00:29] <demophobia> (thanks Bashing-om :P)
[00:29] <Bashing-om> demophobia: So what is the DE ?
[00:31] <demophobia> Bashing-om: i thought i just clarified that saying 'lxde' -- lubuntu
[00:31] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/qvBEn0jv
[00:32] <demophobia> something does seem to exist -- http://lubuntu.me/dark-panel-theme/
[00:33] <demophobia> just enabled that under the Customize Look and Feel preferences window, but PCManFM etc. still bright background
[00:39] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: Hummm ,, not getting an IP back from the router . see my results : http://paste.ubuntu.com/25511396/ in the configuration line .
[00:41] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, yes, that strikes me as right
[00:42] <linuxnoob011> i think i can assign a static ip address, but it's superficial--it purports to take and will show up, but the device is no more usable with an assigned ip
[00:43] <demophobia> found additional settings to adjust Pidgin and other windows in the same preferences window. thanks
[00:49] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: At this point - cause it took me 3 days to find it; in my case - check for a bent pin on the cable connectors !
[00:50] <demophobia> Is it normal to get a pipe error launching firefox from LXTerminal?
[01:03] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, I don't see anything physically wrong with the connectors, on either the laptop side or the cable side (and on the cable side, I've tried other cables)
[01:03] <linuxnoob011> that said, i might not be able to tell. i'm not the most knowledgeable on this
[01:05] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: K; we still got to get the IP from the router . Find out why the IP is non-existent . Seeing what I can find out .
[01:07] <linuxnoob011> does it trouble you at all that when I plug in the ethernet connection, network manager flashes the wifi symbol as if it is attempting to connect to something, and does so for a while?
[01:10] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: I do not have any experience with WIFI - that said maybe one can not have both the wired and WIFI active at the same time ? .. what shows ' ip route show ' / Looking for that IP return .
[01:11] <linuxnoob011> ip route show
[01:11] <linuxnoob011> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev enx00249b29118e  proto static  metric 100
[01:11] <linuxnoob011> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev enx00249b29118e  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>  metric 100
[01:13] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone know what needs to be activated in ubuntu to allow private/public keyu ssh logins?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: Hummm .. we have an IP ! src <IP_ADDRESS> . So why no traffic on the receive side  ?
[01:14] <Smashcat> Currently failing on a server, which is set up correctly according to docs
[01:14] <Smashcat> (no logs, it just always asks for password)
[01:14] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, note the device--it is the usb ethernet device, not the internal
[01:15] <linuxnoob011> also, remember, i raised earlier the weirdness of the ping on the enp7s0 device purporting to come from <IP_ADDRESS>, which is the ip assigned to the OTHER ethernet device, enx...
[01:15] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: So true dat . Ouch . How to knock down WIFI so it does not interfere ?
[01:16] <linuxnoob011> i can disable wifi in network manager? Bashing-om
[01:16] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, again, current internet connectivity coming from the usb ethernet device
[01:16] <linuxnoob011> (so wifi not necessary)
[01:17] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: Ya got me . I have NO WIFI experience .
[01:18] <linuxnoob011> wifi disabled, wifi icon (network manager) still flashing
[01:19] <linuxnoob011> Bashing-om, is there a command i can run to ensure wifi is disabled? is it enough to just disable my wifi card (ifdown wlp8s0)
[01:21] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: We gonna have to wait for others to chime inhere as I just do not know . But we do know that the IP for WIFI and wired must be different . And we do know that the receive side of the wired connection is broke .
[01:22] <linuxnoob011> fair enough. thank you so much for your efforts!
[01:23] <Bashing-om> linuxnoob011: Let's see who chimes in here . I too want to learn .
[01:24] <dckx-g> hi, how can I add programs to the startup in Ubuntu 16.04?
[01:24] <fishcooker> how to ssh host1 host2 ... host7 -t 'poweroff' ?
[01:25] <reisio> fishcooker: clusterssh would be one way
[01:26] <reisio> fishcooker: or for i in {1..7}; do echo "$i" | parallel -j 0 ssh host{} -t poweroff
[01:26] <reisio> erm
[01:26] <reisio> fishcooker: or for i in {1..7}; do echo "$i"; done | parallel -j 0 ssh host{} -t poweroff
[01:27] <reisio> :p
[01:27] <reisio> but it's hard to imagine you would want to be doing this often enough for it to matter much
[01:28] <reisio> nice roundup of alternatives here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/19008/automatically-run-commands-over-ssh-on-many-servers#answer-19010
[01:29] <reisio> oh seq 1 7 | parallel would work :)
[01:34] <Guy1524_> when compiling large software with make, should I set the -j parameter to the amount of threads or cores I have?
[01:35] <Guy1524_> I have 2 cores, but with hyperthreading
[01:38] <rypervenche> Guy1524_: Yes, you can and it will speed things up greatly.
[01:39] <rypervenche> Guy1524_: lscpu | grep '^CPU(s):' will show you what number you can use.
[01:39] <Guy1524_> rypervenche: yes to cores or threads?
[01:40] <rypervenche> Guy1524_: Threads.
[01:40] <Guy1524_> ok, thanks
[02:08] <xiedeaccabc> oh my god, just one guy
[02:09] <xiedeaccabc> hello __Yiota
[02:09] <xiedeaccabc> I'm a newer to irc
[02:09] <rypervenche> xiedeaccabc: Welcome.
[02:09] <xiedeaccabc> thanks
[02:16] <dckx-g> hi. I created a script to change some syncoient settings when ubuntu boots. In order to make it executable, I opened a terminal where the script is saved, and type sudo chmod +x filename.sh. How can I make sure the script is now executable?
[02:16] <dckx-g> Also, how can I make it be executed automatically when the system starts>
[02:32] <chip71513_> Im runningUbuntu  17.04. Every time I run sudo apt-get update, I get dpkg: error processing package oracle-java7-installer (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  oracle-java7-installer E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). Thanks for any help!
[02:34] <reisio> chip71513_: do you actually want oracle's java?
[02:34] <reisio> (hint: you shouldn't)
[02:35] <chip71513_> ugh.. looking to get java for building android, is there other java i should get?
[02:36] <chip71513_> actually have jdk 8 as my current java version already. dont know why its stuck up on installing java 7
[02:39] <chip71513_> Im running Ubuntu  17.04. Every time I run sudo apt-get update, I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). Thanks for any help!
[02:39] <dckx-g> hi, how to execute a script on startup? Is systemd the only way? I'm using 16.04
[02:39] <reisio> chip71513_: you probably want the ordinary java that installing the android sdk would call for, icedtea
[02:39] <reisio> dckx-g: depends, for what purpose?
[02:40] <dckx-g> reisio: I want to change some synclient settings. Someone recommended having a script execute at startup rather than changing the synaptics conf file
[02:41] <reisio> dckx-g: in that case you probably wouldn't even _want_ to do it till X started, so you may as well use your DE's autostart facilities
[02:41] <reisio> using Xorg's conf files is no big deal, though, really
[02:41] <reisio> not that running things at startup is, either
[02:41] <dckx-g> reisio: how do I access the autostart facilities?
[02:44] <reisio> dckx-g: for ordinary Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME?
[02:44] <dckx-g> reisio: yes, I think
[02:46] <reisio> dckx-g: probably still this explanation: https://askubuntu.com/questions/228304/how-do-i-run-a-script-at-start-up#answer-674844
[02:54] <dckx-g> reisio: thank you
[02:59] <dckx-g> reisio: I added the script in there, but no changes occur at startup. But when I ran the script in terminal (sudo /path/to/script.sh) it works. Could it be because it is in a protected folder?
[03:04] <reisio> dckx-g: well, if it needs sudo, you need to call sudo to run it
[03:04] <reisio> whether you're calling it personally (interactively), or via another script
[03:05] <VergilPrime> Having some problems getting ports properly opened using ufw. I use an unusual port for ssh and that's working great, aside from that I need about 8 ports open for some game servers. One of these ports appears to be open according to http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/, the others aren't despite being allowed for incoming connections in ufw. Any ideas?
[03:05] <dckx-g> reisio: it is in a folder I created called myscripts, inside the home folder. The folder has a lock in its icon, and the .sh file has an "x" in its icon. Does that mean the scripts requires sudo? I'd prefer just to "unlock" the folder and the script
[03:09] <VergilPrime> If not, any idea where I could go for more help on the matter?
[03:12] <fallenour_> hey everybody, anyone on that is decent with ceph?
[03:14] <reisio> dckx-g: if it runs as your normal user, with full absolute path (/home/user/blah...) from term, it should work the same
[03:15] <dckx-g> reisio: If I try to run without sudo, it says "permission denied"
[03:17] <reisio> dckx-g: chmod +x ?
[03:18] <dckx-g> reisio: Already did. I can execute the script, but with sudo. The "premission denied" is if I try to execute without sudo. How can I make the script run without sudo?
[03:18] <fallenour_> do an ls -lisa on the specific file/ dir in question, that will tell youw hat permission(s) you have
[03:19] <fallenour_> for the file, specifically becuase of your groups
[03:19] <fallenour_> @dckx-g
[03:19] <fallenour_> also, check to see if file facls are active on the directory, or a parent directory
[03:20] <dckx-g> 262939 4 ---x--x--x 1 root root 116 Sep 10 22:09 /home/jpugarte1/myScripts/synclientSettings.sh
[03:20] <fallenour_> also, @dckx-g I know this might sound dumb, but have you tried to simply cp the script to another directory, and try to run the script there?
[03:20] <fallenour_> all you have on that is execute, you might want to do a chmod 555 if nothing else
[03:21] <fallenour_> also, are you root?
[03:21] <dckx-g> fallenour_: yes, I'm root. And I don't think I have understood all the things you've said
[03:21] <dckx-g> fallenour_: I'm very bad on ubuntu jargon. I can try to run from another folder though
[03:21] <fallenour_> right now all you have is --x--x--x, which is 111, all executes
[03:22] <fallenour_> however, your issue might be read privileges, which are a minimum of 4
[03:22] <fallenour_> read is 4, write is 2, execute is 1
[03:22] <fallenour_> so chmod 555 would be read + execute priviliges
[03:23] <dckx-g> I see. I'll set the permissions to that
[03:23] <Ben64> standard permissions for executables and folders is 755, other files it is 644
[03:23] <fallenour_> yes, what ben said, once you have it working, I would recommend you simply put it to 770, since the root root ownership
[03:24] <reisio> dckx-g: well you don't have to use sudo unless you have to...
[03:24] <fallenour_> Im a bit more on the paranoid side when it comes to permissions, so I tend to take everything away that I can for anyone who doesnt have a direct need for a file or whole directories
[03:24] <dckx-g> gonna restart now to see if script is executed on startup
[03:24] <Ben64> kind of weird for root to be owning stuff in your home directory though
[03:25] <fallenour_> @ben64 yea, hes probably just learning or experimenting
[03:26] <dckx-g> it worked with chmod 755. Thanks reisio, fallenour, and Ben64
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:14] <CreativeWolf> Heya all :)
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> morning CreativeWolf
[05:16] <CreativeWolf> Morning lotuspsychje :)
[05:16] <CreativeWolf> When I'm trying to remove speech-dispatcher on Ubuntu 16.04 running Mate Desktop it says ubuntu-mate-core will be removed too, will that break anything?
[05:19] <Aginor> CreativeWolf: yes, mate-core is needed to use mate
[05:19] <CreativeWolf> Aginor, Ahh. how do I remove speech-dispatcher without removing mate-core?
[05:20] <Bashing-om> CreativeWolf: See the warning ' apt show ubuntu-mate-core ' .
[05:20] <Aginor> CreativeWolf: why are you trying to remove it in the first place?
[05:21] <CreativeWolf> Bashing-om, Thanks, will check
[05:21] <Aginor> CreativeWolf: removing it on its own will most likely break a lot of things that check for it
[05:21] <CreativeWolf> Aginor, I'm trying to keep the desktop installation minimal.
[05:22] <Aginor> CreativeWolf: maybe lubuntu or something similar might be better for you then?
[05:23] <Bashing-om> !minimal | CreativeWolf
[05:24] <Bashing-om> CreativeWolf: It is much easier to build up than to tear down :)
[05:24] <CreativeWolf> Aginor, Trying to get the best of both, Mate is much smoother for a typical desktop user, but I'm trying to remove as many unwanted applications possible.
[05:25] <CreativeWolf> Bashing-om, Yeah, seems like that, maybe my next desktop builds, I'll try the build up method :)
[05:26] <Bashing-om> CreativeWolf: I ran a core build in a spinning drive that is faster than a install of xubuntu on a SSD !
[05:27] <CreativeWolf> Bashing-om, Ahh, that's tasty tasty :P
[05:27] <Drako365> hey
[05:27] <Drako365> Iḿ  running ubuntu gnome
[05:28] <Bashing-om> CreativeWolf: I tell you the truth , able to boot in under 5 seconds - upstart .
[05:28] <CreativeWolf> Bashing-om, I did the minimal install and built up with LXDE, pretty neat indeed, don't have a SSD to compare though.
[05:28] <Drako365> and my keyboard is putting in the wrong quotation marks (bash isn´t detecting them correctly)
[05:29] <Drako365> also, some of the keys are being somewhat unresponsive
[05:29] <Bashing-om> CreativeWolf: Then I be preaching to the chior :)
[05:29] <CreativeWolf> Bashing-om, always helps to hear to firm up the belief ;)
[06:44] <null_0> Hola
[06:45] <null_0> Using ubuntu and my system is slowing down
[06:46] <null_0> The reason may be excess amount of ram usage but on seeing the processes running and their ram usage
[06:47] <null_0> It literally sums up to 1GB something (25%) .
[06:47] <null_0> May I know any method to clear out some contents in memoy
[06:48] <null_0> *memory
[06:48] <null_0> that may be hidden
[06:49] <dcypher> Anyone... Can apt be used to install .deb files or is GDebi the preferred method??
[06:50] <ducasse> dcypher: 'sudo apt install ./filename.deb' - just use absolute path
[06:50] <null_0> about dependencies ?
[06:51] <ducasse> apt installs those automatically whenever possible
[06:51] <dcypher> ok, so I read all over that GDebi was preferred... ok, if apt works I'll use that.
[06:52] <ducasse> old advice, this is a quite new feature in apt. don't install something to do what core tools already handle.
[06:54] <dcypher> cool, I'll use apt then... thanks
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | null_0
[07:05] <dcypher> Ok just tried installing Chrome via apt, last line during install shows: Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu9) ...
[07:05] <dcypher> N: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/home/xxxxxxx/Desktop/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[07:05] <dcypher> does this have to do with using apt to install a deb
[07:06] <dcypher> actually it runs
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> dcypher: how about you try chromium, the ubuntu alternative for chrome?
[07:06] <dcypher> maybe thats just a warning
[07:06] <ducasse> dcypher: which release is this?
[07:07] <dcypher> 16.04
[07:07] <ducasse> are you up to date?
[07:07] <dcypher> fully
[07:08] <dcypher> 16.04.3
[07:08] <ducasse> hmm. there was a bug that caused this behavior, but that was quite a while back...
[07:08] <dcypher> and fully updated
[07:08] <gartral> ok all, so i painted myself into a corner here, before I get started there's nothing of vital importance on the drive in question, but if I can recover it and save myself the headache of regathering all the programs installed that'd be nice: so here we go,So I'm on 17.04 and I suffered a nasty crash on a drive that's aging and has bad blocks after the power outage, I rebooted and it dropped into recovery,
[07:08] <dcypher> chrome still runs though
[07:08] <gartral> I did an fsck -fy on the drive and it found some files from my ecrypt home and threw them into /lost+found, this wouldn't normally big a big deal except that 1 file and 1 folder don't have their encrypted names, jost the block number... is there ANY possible way I can recover from this without a full wipe and reinstall?
[07:10] <zamba> what is an i-node? does a single i-node point to one file, or does one file potentially "contain" a number of i-nodes?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> gartral: last time you said your on 17.10
[07:10] <ducasse> zamba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
[07:10] <gartral> zamba: inodes can indeed point to other inodes.
[07:11] <gartral> lotuspsychje: different machine
[07:11] <zamba> gartral: yes, but a file doesn't "contain" several i-nodes?
[07:11] <zamba> gartral: meaning, if a file exceeds a certain size you need more i-nodes
[07:14] <gartral> zamba: no, a file doesn't contain inodes, it's the other way around, but multiple inodes/files can be referenced through the file table, which is in itself contained in an inode
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> gartral: pull out the HD physically, and scan the whole drive with photorec from a working ubuntu machine to rescue data, after that an old HD with bad blocks, dont use it anymore?
[07:16] <vlt> Hello. How can I get rid of printers that are not listed in the CUPS list of printers (http://localhost:631/printers/) but appear in the printing dialog?
[07:16] <gartral> lotuspsychje: care to donate an external dock and new drive? :) seriously though, I'm broke, which is the only reason I'm using this old dying drive to watch youtube and play my few games with
[07:17] <ducasse> vlt: which release is this?
[07:17] <vlt> ducasse: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (MATE)
[07:18] <ducasse> vlt: then i don't know, sorry. can't you just delete them from the gooey?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> gartral: is this the only HD you have in your house/pc?
[07:19] <vlt> ducasse: In GUI settings there are only the ones that also CUPS knows of.
[07:19] <gartral> zamba: trust me on this, unless you're researching for working on the EXT family of filesystems or a doctorate level essay/thesis on them, you're better off believing that pixies are memorizing your data and not worrying too much about it
[07:20] <ducasse> vlt: but they show up in the printing dialog? are they network printers?
[07:21] <gartral> lotuspsychje: that isn't currently being used and storing backups of my actually important data, or in my desktop or other laptop, yes. in short I have no feree drives to replace this one with
[07:21] <vlt> ducasse: Yes. Every few weeks CUPS adds printers it finds somewhere on the network. When that happens I stop CUPS, restore my old printers.conf, and restart CUPS again. Then the list in CUPS and system settings is clean; but the ghosts remain in the printing dialog.
[07:21] <gartral> vlt: can we get a screenshot or paste of what you are seeing?
[07:22] <gartral> vlt: disregard
[07:22] <ducasse> gartral: not that familiar with ecryptfs, do you need the file with the original name to recover?
[07:22] <ducasse> vlt: try to disable avahi
[07:23] <gartral> vlt: do you rely on a networked printer yourself?
[07:23] <vlt> ducasse: Only the ones I already have in porinters.conf
[07:23] <vlt> -o
[07:24] <gartral> vlt: then disabling avahi won't be an option, i think
[07:24] <vlt> gartral: Ok, thank you.
[07:24] <vlt> I'll try that tonight when no users are logged in anymore.
[07:24] <vlt> ducasse: ^ Thanks
[07:24] <ducasse> gartral: disabling avahi will prevent him from auto-discovery of the printer, not actually using it
[07:25]  * vlt thinks it's better to wait. For his safety :-D
[07:26] <ducasse> vlt: cups-browsed might also be involved, i'm not that familiar with it
[07:26] <gartral> ducasse: huh, I thought avahi was also responsible for getting a printers' status and facilitating print jobs...
[07:27] <gartral> though I'v only ever used networked HP printers, so I could be talking out my rear-end on that one
[07:27] <ducasse> gartral: i don't think so, but i could be wrong
[07:27] <ducasse> vlt: there is a cups channel here iirc
[07:28] <gartral> ducasse: I'm sorry, I didn't even notice your message, do you mean do I need to figure out where these files go to recover my current installation?
[07:29] <ducasse> gartral: yes
[07:30] <vlt> ducasse: I know. But I thought this might be Ubuntu related. The CUPS part seems to be working find (except for the wild appending of printers to the list :-D)
[07:31] <gartral> ducasse: yes I do, because as of right now I can't even force a log in through terminal, it throws an "Authentication Failed" error with no other entries in any log that I can find
[07:32] <gartral> vlt: well, if you want to be technical, cups and avahi are working perfectly fine, you just don't want them to be working the way they were designed to work :P
[07:32] <ducasse> gartral: right, i didn't think ecryptfs was that sensitive unless you messed with it's metadata files
[07:33] <ducasse> gartral: but since you've already fsck'ed the fs i don't see a way to recover
[07:33] <gartral> ducasse: neither did I, and I suspect these files *ARE* metadata files
[07:33] <ducasse> right
[07:34] <gartral> ducasse: what's curious is that the files in the mystery folder all have their encrypted names in tact, it's just the folder and one random file that got their names borked by the fsck
[07:34] <ducasse> is it possible to figure out what they are from size+contents? there's not that much in .ecryptfs
[07:35] <gartral> ducasse: I suppose I used the wrong term then, these files appear to be from my .private/[user name] folder
[07:36] <ducasse> ah, ok.
[07:36] <gartral> I can not read the contents as they're encrypted :(
[07:37] <gartral> if I could figure out a way to make ecrypt decrypt the singular file I may be able to determine where it came from, but I don'
[07:37] <gartral> t see a way of doing so
[07:37] <ducasse> in that case i think the pooch is screwed, tbh :-/
[07:38] <ducasse> you could try ##linux, in case someone there is more familiar with ecryptfs
[07:38] <gartral> ducasse: very curious that you used that phrase.. as it's exactly what I said to myself when I discovered the files in /lost+found
[07:39] <ducasse> hehe
[07:42] <gartral> ducasse: as an aside, would you happen to know a way of calculating, even roughly, the sector-to-disk-size for a given drive, so when I reformat I can avoid the partitions going over the bad sectors?
[07:45] <ducasse> not something i know, sorry. if you had imaged the drive/partition before running fsck you could probably have digged out what you need from that, but not afterwards.
[07:54] <gartral> ducasse: yea, well... I don't have the drives to do that with, besides, have you ever imaged 460~ gb of drive to another? it takes a loooong time
[07:55] <ducasse> i know :(
[08:11] <neure> helo
[08:11] <neure> I think I am affected by https://github.com/libfuse/sshfs/issues/7
[08:11] <neure> i am using ubuntu 16.04
[08:11] <neure> can i get newer version of sshfs somehow?
[08:16] <neure> i suppose i could try 17.04
[08:16] <ducasse> you can upgrade to 17.04
[08:16] <neure> yeah
[08:17] <neure> too bad lts does not have this bug fixed
[08:17] <ducasse> have you filed a bug report?
[08:18] <ducasse> you can do so and ask for an sru
[08:18] <ducasse> !sru
[08:20] <neure> looks like too much trouble for me
[08:20] <neure> i'll just go for 17.04 and see it works better
[08:20] <neure> i work with a large source tree
[08:21] <neure> visual studio code scans sshfs mounted tree -> daily sshfs crash
[08:21] <neure> once or twice a day, sshfs just crashes
[08:23] <oerheks> neure, sounds plausible, "it looks like it only happens during listings of large directories." https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1470193
[08:23] <neure> yes
[08:24] <neure> basically i have the repro, but the files are company owned so I cannot share
[08:24] <neure> and only happens when i use vscode
[08:24] <neure> coworkers dont use vscode, they doent experience the issue
[08:25] <neure> oerheks, does the bug say when it was fixed?
[08:26] <ducasse> read it and see?
[08:27] <neure> i mean it says it is fixed jul 12 in commit xyz, but i dont immediately see if that fix is in some released version
[08:27] <oerheks> i think it is fixed in 2.8 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse
[08:27] <neure> then i just try 17.04
[08:28] <tpimtts> funny story.. so I `rm -rf /etc/apt/trusted*`=broken-apt anyone know of a quick.. painless fix?
[08:28] <neure> but 2.8.1 was released way before jul 12
[08:29] <brainwash> 2.8 is from Jun 22, 2016
[08:29] <brainwash> you need at least 2.10 I think
[08:29] <oerheks> neure, that bugzilla is about 2.5.1
[08:29] <brainwash> or better, 3.x
[08:29] <neure> ok
[08:30] <Paperplane> Hi guys I just wanted to ask if its possible to boot a live usb add some apps and make the live usb's new iso file . So that next when the said iso file is made usb bootable it contains the new apps too running in live mode.
[08:30] <oerheks> Paperplane, not that easy, UCK is dead, you might want to try cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[08:31] <Paperplane> Okay let me see that.
[08:31] <neure> how do i trigger update 16.04 to 17.04?
[08:32] <neure> in Software & Updates I set Notify me of a new Ubuntu version: to "For any new version" but i get no notification
[08:33] <oerheks> neure, go into softwaresources, and select any new version, and run update and full-upgrade
[08:33] <neure> i did
[08:33] <neure> nothing happens
[08:33] <neure> ah
[08:34] <neure> i had to manually run software updater
[08:34] <neure> or the window was just lurking behind something else..
[08:34] <oerheks> oke, have fun!
[08:36] <neure> lol
[08:36] <neure> thanks
[08:39] <brainwash> neure: that won't fix your sshfs issue though
[08:39] <brainwash> even upgrading to 17.10 won't
[08:39] <neure> doh
[08:40] <neure> so i need to get latest sshfs and build it manually?
[08:40] <neure> or fuse?
[08:40] <neure> which one?
[08:40] <neure> or are they in same thing?
[08:42] <brainwash> nope. you could rebuild sshfs with the patch
[08:42] <neure> i thought the patch was already committed to github
[08:43] <ducasse> if someone could be bothered to file a bug the fix might get backported to 16.04...
[08:43] <brainwash> you can grab the sources for 2.10 (or 3.x) and build from source
[08:43] <neure> yes, that is what i was thinking
[08:43] <neure> getting latest ssfs and build it manually
[08:44] <brainwash> you just need "sudo apt-get build-deps sshfs" and then you are ready to go
[08:44] <neure> really?
[08:44] <neure> that builds me latest greatest sshfs?
[08:44] <neure> sounds awesome
[08:45] <brainwash> it grabs the build dependencies for you
[08:45] <neure> do i still need to download and build the sshfs itself?
[08:45] <brainwash> you do
[08:46] <neure> Release 3.1.0 (2017-04-04) has "Fixed a crash due to a race condition when listing directory contents." in change log
[08:46] <neure> 2017-08-04 but anyway
[08:46] <neure> okay
[08:46] <neure> but it will help me get ready, thanks
[08:47] <brainwash> oh. a typo. its build-dep and not build-deps
[08:47] <brainwash> you could go this route also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[08:48] <Paperplane> oerheks Its taking lot of time but Thanks Bud
[09:34] <gartral> ducasse: blurgh
[09:35] <is_null> hi all, any idea why postgresql is LOLing at my face ? http://dpaste.com/2NR3V31
[09:36] <is_null> so, it's not running, i checked the service file, and it has /bin/true in ExecStart, is this normal ?!
[09:36] <is_null> it's in production by the way lol
[09:37] <is_null> dunno, i woke up and it was like that
[09:44] <neure> hi
[09:44] <neure> so i tried installing libfuse and sshfs
[09:44] <neure> libfuse installs "Installing lib/libfuse3.so.3.1.0 to /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfuse3.so.3.1.0"
[09:45] <neure> while sshfs looks for "sshfs: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse3.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:46] <brainwash> neure: you could create a symlink
[09:47] <brainwash> neure: libfuse3.so.3 -> libfuse3.so.3.1.0
[09:47] <gartral> neure: what's the output of which libfuse
[09:48] <Ben64> neure: how are you installing it
[09:48] <brainwash> gartral: are you sure that "which" makes sense in this context?
[09:49] <gartral> brainwash: you're rtight, that was a derp
[09:50] <jpic> hi all, i woke up this morning, the server had rebooted this weekend, postgresql is not working anymore: http://dpaste.com/2NR3V31
[09:50] <jpic> for some reason i found ExecStart=/bin/true in its service file, is it normal ?
[09:50] <jpic> meanwhile i'm creating an ubuntu lxc container locally and trying to replicate the install
[09:50] <jpic> but i'm completely lost
[09:52] <brainwash> jpic: did you read the comment?
[09:52] <brainwash> in that "service" file
[09:59] <jpic> brainwash: i hadn't, what a relief that this is normal, thanks !
[09:59] <jpic> how to start postgresql then ?
[10:00] <brainwash> try systemctl start postgresql@<TAB>
[10:00] <jpic> right, thanks !
[10:03] <jpic> so, do you think a xenial server would reboot by itself ?
[10:04] <Ben64> nope
[10:16] <ghostnik11> i am trying to get audio to work on my asus t100 and here is the result of sudo aplay -l and also the commands for the modules installed on my system: https://pastebin.com/kyK7SZ32
[10:20] <brainwash> ghostnik11: what error do you get when playing some sound with aplay?
[10:20] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well i get no sound?
[10:20] <brainwash> and no error also?
[10:21] <brainwash> maybe check with amixer that sound is not muted
[10:23] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well when i go to the sound gui, it doesn't show the name of a driver and when i try to do the test sound for left and right it doesn't play any sound. also its not muted in the sound gui
[10:24] <ghostnik11> brainwash, here is an imagebin: https://imagebin.ca/v/3a0g2E5a0vvj
[10:25] <brainwash> and this has been the case since installing ubuntu?
[10:25] <fub> Yesterday someone advised me how to use gparted and extend the space for my system partition. To do this, I need to remove a partition before my system partition, and then move the system partition to this place. gparted now warns me with "Movin a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot"
[10:25] <brainwash> ghostnik11: did sound work with the live cd/usb?
[10:25] <fub> What do I need to do so I can safely move my system partition and stil lboot from it?
[10:25] <ghostnik11> brainwash, no
[10:26] <ghostnik11> brainwash, sound didn't work with live cd
[10:26] <neure> Ben64, I was installed based on instructions in readme
[10:26] <neure> Ben64, using meson and ninja
[10:26] <oerheks> ghostnik11, plese mention the guide you posted yesterday.. it is wonky, i gave up on the asus t100
[10:26] <ghostnik11> brainwash, when i run lpsci it doesn't even show the sound driver
[10:26] <neure> brainwash, yes, i think symlink is missing, but whose responsibility it is to setup the symlinks?
[10:27] <ghostnik11> oerheks, okay here it is: https://plus.google.com/117678584843504718765/posts/Z47kmVKe13K brainwash
[10:27] <brainwash> neure: I'd guess the install routine of that make file
[10:27] <ghostnik11> oerheks, that is one that the person is specifically talking about the t100taf
[10:28] <oerheks> 32 bit uefi and 64 bit ubuntu??
[10:28] <brainwash> ghostnik11: is that really kernel 4.11?
[10:29] <neure> brainwash, except, both libfuse and sshfs use ninja, not make
[10:29] <brainwash> neure: right. meson build is the new way, but the old one is still supported
[10:30] <brainwash> neure: I assumed that you went the old way
[10:31] <brainwash> ghostnik11: I would test with kernel 4.13
[10:31] <neure> brainwash, i went the new way, the new way didn t create the symlink :(
[10:33] <neure> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     17 syys  11 12:43 /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfuse3.so.3 -> libfuse3.so.3.1.0
[10:33] <neure> ^ actually i do have this symlink
[10:33] <neure> why does it not work?
[10:34] <brainwash> could be that sshfs does not look inside /usr/local/lib/
[10:34] <neure> how would i fix that?
[10:34] <brainwash> try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib sshfs
[10:34] <neure> ldd `which sshfs` sayas libfuse3.so.3 => not found
[10:35] <neure> sshfs: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse3.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:36] <brainwash> mmh
[10:37] <brainwash> maybe strace it then
[10:38] <neure> ok
[10:38] <neure> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu sshfs --version
[10:39] <neure> that works
[10:39] <neure> so /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu is not in library search path
[10:39] <brainwash> mmh
[10:39] <neure> meanwhile libfuse / sshfs install scripts happily simply assume so
[10:40] <brainwash> you could have installed to /usr instead of /usr/local, but that would override the sshfs managed by the system
[10:41] <neure> i uninstalled the libfuse and sshfs packages
[10:41] <neure> what is correct way to add this library search path?
[10:42] <ghostnik11> brainwash, yeah but one of the guides i followed said that 4.11 was the best one with my device
[10:43] <ghostnik11> oerheks, is their anyway i can just eliminate the 32 bit uefi since i don't have windows anymore and also eliminate the bios that asus sent with it so i can install a new one that isn't so locked down?
[10:43] <brainwash> neure: there is /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
[10:43] <neure> yes
[10:44] <neure> i wonder whose responsibility it is to fix this?
[10:44] <neure> is it ubuntu package that would fix this?
[10:44] <neure> and since im not using package, instead, building from sources, it is my problem?
[10:44] <brainwash> I'm not sure
[10:44] <brainwash> well yeah
[10:44] <brainwash> you've installed it in /usr/local
[10:45] <brainwash> /usr/local/lib is even added by /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
[10:45] <neure> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu works, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/ does not
[10:45] <brainwash> I'd think that this includes the "x86_64-linux-gnu" part also
[10:46] <brainwash> yeah.. no clue
[10:46] <brainwash> I suggest searching the web :P
[10:46] <ghostnik11> brainwash, oerheks also it says that: i need to just install the files in a certain location and it should get sound working but my thing is that the files. here is where i am suppose to put the files: New firmware goes to /lib/firmware/intel
[10:46] <neure>  x86_64-linux-gnu.conf adds /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, not /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[10:47] <brainwash> ghostnik11: I would test with 4.13, and see if it works with this latest kernel version
[10:48] <ghostnik11> brainwash, even though the users over at the google + page said that 4.11 was the best one? i mean i can try that
[10:48] <brainwash> ghostnik11: it probably was the best one at that point of time
[10:48] <ghostnik11> brainwash, so don't move those files to that location and just try to install 4.13 firmware and see if it works
[10:49] <brainwash> ghostnik11: try both ways
[10:50] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay i will try the 4.13 since thats the fastest and i just have to download the files then run command and if that doesn't work after reboot then i will have to come back to 4.11.12 then try this way of moving the files
[10:51] <ghostnik11> brainwash, mainline says the latest 4.13 stable is 4.13.1
[10:52] <brainwash> should be right
[10:55] <ghostnik11> brainwash, it just finished installing to grub will restart and let you know
[10:59] <ghostnik11> brainwash, didn't work still no sound and now 4.13.1 is installed from mainline
[10:59] <brainwash> too bad
[11:03] <ghostnik11> brainwash, lol yeah well its not over yet
[11:04] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay it says new sound files go here:  New firmware goes to /lib/firmware/intel
[11:05] <ghostnik11> when i go to that location all the files have different endings as i have already downloaded the files i need but the files come in different folders compressed and thats the thing i don't know if i should just uncompress files and just copy and paste them to there
[11:06] <brainwash> you have to extract them
[11:07] <ghostnik11> brainwash, check this imagebin of the files that i need to place in firmware/intel: https://imagebin.ca/v/3a0tJrDvKGe8
[11:08] <ghostnik11> brainwash, the thing is that they have other folders with other stuff that aren't just firmware/lib? so i wanted to know what about those other files or should i just use these files shown in imagebin
[11:10] <ghostnik11> brainwash, so what do you think just extract those files to firmware/intel
[11:10] <brainwash> exactly
[11:11] <TsakNorris> How to install pipelight to Ubuntu? I need to use silverlight (i hate silverlight) xD.
[11:11] <brainwash> ghostnik11: here on 17.10 it looks like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/25513944/
[11:12] <ghostnik11> brainwash, that command will just show me what i have correct?
[11:13] <brainwash> yes
[11:13] <brainwash> so, the extracted files should appear in that directory
[11:13] <ghostnik11> brainwash, do you want me to post it via pastebin the results? b/4 i go ahead and paste them to the folder
[11:14] <brainwash> not sure how that would be of any help
[11:14] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay will do the pasting now
[11:16] <TsakNorris> If i don't get silverlight to work in this Ubuntu, then my boss will throw this PC away. This is ok computer. Windows 8 Lenovo ThinkCentre. I5 cpu.
[11:16] <brainwash> is silverlight still supported by firefox or chrome?
[11:17] <TsakNorris> i don't care :D how you can open silverlight stuff with Ubuntu. What is the way?
[11:17] <TsakNorris> wine?
[11:18] <alocer> lol brainwash. i feel you
[11:18] <alocer> oops i meant TsakNorris
[11:18] <TsakNorris> alocer: lol :D
[11:19] <brainwash> TsakNorris: try https://launchpad.net/pipelight
[11:19] <oerheks> TsakNorris, no need for silverlight, use chrome browser
[11:19] <TsakNorris> ok i try that
[11:19] <brainwash> chrome has it builtin?
[11:20] <TsakNorris> https://www.hijathr.fi/EspooItsepalvelut/
[11:20] <oerheks> only chrome has html5+drm plugins
[11:21] <TsakNorris> chrome is also saying that i have to install silverlight
[11:21] <alocer> pipelight seams legit
[11:21] <TsakNorris> alocer: i did try also pipelight, but it won't show up in add-ons list
[11:21] <alocer> :(
[11:22] <ghostnik11> what is the command to quit gksudo nautilus after your done making changes?
[11:22] <oerheks> hit the red button with an X
[11:23] <TsakNorris> and if i press that silverlight pic it will redirect me to "http://www.mono-project.com/docs/web/moonlight/" and that is even older than pipelight.
[11:24] <ghostnik11> oerheks, i did for all the nautilus windows but i wanted to tell it from terminal but i just closed terminal
[11:25] <oerheks> ghostnik11, so lazy to hit the red X? xkill and click on the window you want to close
[11:25] <oerheks> or reboot :-D
[11:25] <ghostnik11> oerheks, lol
[11:27] <TsakNorris> ok i have to do some reading. im not going to give up like this. Its good PC. maybe wine and from there the wines own IE. i will test that :D
[11:27] <brainwash> TsakNorris: which addon list?
[11:28] <TsakNorris> brainwash: if you check add-on list after enable and create parameters of pipelight. you won't see pipelight in there...
[11:28] <TsakNorris> brainwash: firefox add-on
[11:28] <brainwash> you need firefox 52 ESR
[11:29] <brainwash> and you also have to re-enable npapi plugins I think
[11:29] <TsakNorris> i have now 55.0.2 (64
[11:29] <oerheks> brainwash, +1 ... indeed , firefox banned those plugins.. which is good.
[11:31] <brainwash> https://askubuntu.com/questions/905910/web-browsers-with-npapi-plugins-support
[11:37] <ghostnik11> brainwash, yep that did the trick and now when i bring up sound gui it shows the sound drivers a whole bunch of them
[11:37] <brainwash> great
[11:38] <ghostnik11> oerheks, hey i got sound to work now. just a little closer to being able to bringing this 2 in 1 pc to school to use. now i have to get the brightness control to work
[11:39] <ghostnik11> what are all the audio video files i need in my systme to be able to play music, podcasts and videos of any video format? b/c i didn't have a chance to download those when i was installing ubuntu b/c wifi wasn't working at that time
[11:45] <ghostnik11> is ubuntu-restricted-extras all i need for audio and video?
[11:46] <TsakNorris> brainwash: i try to install "pale moon" there is npapi support :)
[11:47] <hateball> ghostnik11: that should cover most use cases
[11:48] <girlielt> is ubuntu kernel hardened kernel?
[11:48] <ghostnik11> hateball, okay and also vlc? b/c on ubuntu forums it told me to install vlc-pulse
[11:48] <girlielt> or is it just MAC enabled?
[11:48] <hateball> ghostnik11: Personal preference really, and the rare case where VLC handles something the default player does not
[11:49] <hateball> ghostnik11: Then again there may be cases you might need to use mplayer as well
[11:49] <girlielt> anyone knows shit about the ubuntu kernel
[11:49] <ghostnik11> hateball, yeah mplayer comes by default correct? or do they have an extra package?
[11:49] <brainwash> girlielt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#Kernel_Hardening
[11:49] <girlielt> so it is or not?
[11:49] <brainwash> girlielt: I suggest heading over to #ubuntu-kernel
[11:49] <girlielt> by default
[11:49] <hateball> ghostnik11: afaik it is not installed by default (I use Kubuntu)
[11:49] <girlielt> no lol
[11:50] <ghostnik11> hateball, okay
[11:50] <girlielt> this is just not detailed question, yes or no question
[11:50] <brainwash> girlielt: yes
[11:50] <brainwash> girlielt: see the linked wiki page
[11:51] <TsakNorris> HAHAHAH it worked. OMG! it works!!! Everybody! Use palemoon if you have problems with silverlight xD *happy happy joy joy*
[11:52] <alocer> gg TsakNorris
[11:54] <oerheks> girlielt, read that url, instead of beiing lazy >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#Kernel_Hardening
[11:55] <ghostnik11> okay so now i need to get autobrightness working: it says to run this command: sudo modprobe cm3218x
[11:56] <ghostnik11> here is the site i am getting the info from: http://www.jfwhome.com/2016/01/04/latest-steps-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-asus-t100ta/
[11:58] <brainwash> ghostnik11: no question?
[11:59] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well i already copied the script folder and put files there now i am just changing it in rc.local to tell it where the auto-brightness script is
[11:59] <brainwash> so, auto brightness does work after testing it
[11:59] <brainwash> ?
[12:00] <brainwash> assuming that one would test it before making any permanent changes
[12:01] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well i haven't tested yet but this is the script can you take a look and see if its written correctly: https://pastebin.com/xQ7zeMxT
[12:01] <pmitros> A while ago, in this channel, someone pointed me to a package useful for setting up a wifi server. It integrated DHCP and I think bridging (which I don't need), allowed for captive portal, DNS, etc.
[12:02] <pmitros> I'm looking for my docs from that chat, through Google, and can't find it anymore.
[12:02] <pmitros> Any ideas what it might have been?
[12:03] <brainwash> ghostnik11: remove the # and add the & to the end
[12:03] <pmitros> Essentially, an all-in-one wifi hotspot package
[12:03] <ghostnik11> brainwash, don't understand
[12:03] <girlielt> ubuntu is very hardened?
[12:03] <ghostnik11> brainwash, erase that # and add & where?
[12:04] <girlielt> just like as if they followed teh complete arch wiki on kernel and security?
[12:04] <girlielt> is it that hardened?
[12:04] <girlielt> or is it loose
[12:04] <brainwash> ghostnik11: "/path/to/script/auto-brightness.sh &"
[12:05] <brainwash> ghostnik11: that's what the linked website says
[12:05] <oerheks> girlielt, read that url
[12:05] <ghostnik11> brainwash, like this: https://pastebin.com/ka7vcQm3
[12:05] <brainwash> yes
[12:05] <ghostnik11> brainwash, but now that line isn't blue anymore
[12:05] <girlielt> GerbilSoft: it doesn't say much
[12:05] <girlielt> and I don't understand it
[12:05] <brainwash> ghostnik11: blue means probably that it's commented out
[12:05] <ghostnik11> okay and should i put the / where it begins at the start of the first line or skip a space? or does it not matter?
[12:05] <brainwash> ghostnik11: therefore ignored
[12:06] <ghostnik11> brainwash, oh, i didn't know that
[12:06] <ghostnik11> brainwash, i thought blue meant its working
[12:06] <oerheks> girlielt, then why ask if you don't understand hardening?that page is clearly saying 'yes'
[12:07] <brainwash> ghostnik11: the # at the beginning turns the rest of a line into a comment
[12:07] <ghostnik11> brainwash, so after i save it i should do a restart?
[12:07] <brainwash> ghostnik11: did you mark /etc/rc.local as executable?
[12:07] <ghostnik11> brainwash, no
[12:07] <ghostnik11> brainwash, how do i do that?
[12:07] <brainwash> sudo chmod +x /etc/rc.local
[12:07] <brainwash> or via nautilus
[12:08] <oerheks> !apparmor
[12:09] <ghostnik11> brainwash, and this script will automatically run at startup?
[12:09] <brainwash> it should
[12:10] <ghostnik11> okay will do a restart now and see if it works
[12:10] <brainwash> you can check with "systemctl status rc-local.service"
[12:10] <brainwash> after the restart
[12:19] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay after restart i still don't know if it works b/c i tried adjusting it via the brightness gui but it doesn't seem to change but here is the paste bin of that command: https://pastebin.com/ehZvBtHh
[12:20] <brainwash> is the auto-brightness script still running?
[12:22] <ghostnik11> brainwash, yeah i assume so
[12:22] <brainwash> what does "lsmod | grep cm3218x" return?
[12:24] <ghostnik11> brainwash, it does nothing though i think i need to find my correct cm
[12:24] <brainwash> also, is auto-brightness.sh marked as executable?
[12:25] <brainwash> well
[12:25] <brainwash> so much for testing it before making it a permanent change
[12:25] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well rc.local is executable
[12:26] <ghostnik11> how can i find my correct cm file?
[12:26] <brainwash> and auto-brightness.sh?
[12:26] <ghostnik11> oh i needed to make that separate script executable
[12:26] <brainwash> both
[12:26] <ghostnik11> one sec brainwash
[12:26] <ghostnik11> brainwash, it is already
[12:27] <brainwash> ok
[12:27] <brainwash> thought so
[12:27] <brainwash> the script does appear in "ps aux"?
[12:27] <ghostnik11> ps aux? brainwash where is that at
[12:27] <brainwash> terminal
[12:29] <ghostnik11> brainwash, nope not there in ps aux
[12:30] <brainwash> then "sudo bash /home/supanova/scripts/auto-brightness.sh"
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:30] <brainwash> see what error it gives you
[12:31] <brainwash> you can terminate this command with ctrl + c
[12:31] <brainwash> it runs in an endless loop
[12:32] <ghostnik11> brainwash, /home/supanova/scripts/auto-brightness.sh: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[12:32] <ghostnik11> brainwash, says syntax error
[12:33] <brainwash> pastebin your auto-brightness.sh
[12:34] <brainwash> it should look like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jfwells/linux-asus-t100ta/master/support-scripts/auto-brightness.sh
[12:35] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay here it is: https://pastebin.com/7sSq1vgK
[12:35] <brainwash> well
[12:35] <brainwash> that's a fail
[12:35] <brainwash> download the linked file
[12:35] <ghostnik11> brainwash, should i copy that what you just pasted?
[12:35] <brainwash> yes
[12:35] <brainwash> you've downloaded the website which displays the script
[12:36] <geirha> good thing you got a syntax error on the first non-blank line
[12:36] <ghostnik11> brainwash, yeah i figured that once i opened the script to copy. geirha yeah i got lucky with that one
[12:37] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay i changed it. should i restart now
[12:37] <brainwash> no
[12:37] <multifractal> By trying every possible combination of BIOS settings, I've managed to FINALLY get my laptop to boot in AHCI mode, and for the Ubuntu installer to detect the hard drive... The goal is to install Ubuntu side-by-side with Win10, and in my past experiences I've always been presented with this option. This time, I was only offered the option to erase evrything...
[12:37] <brainwash> ghostnik11: "sudo bash /home/supanova/scripts/auto-brightness.sh" again
[12:38] <brainwash> see if it works now
[12:38] <multifractal> Can anyone determine why this is? http://imgur.com/a/FGkDY I enclose the screenshot from "Disks" app (sorry for the moire patterns)
[12:38] <ghostnik11> brainwash, its giving me code
[12:39] <multifractal> My other laptops don't have so many partitions for recovery etc. and are in MBR mode, but this new laptop has a GPT.
[12:40] <ghostnik11> brainwash,  one of them is saying cat: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/birghtness: no such file or directory and thats a cat
[12:42] <brainwash> :/
[12:42] <brainwash> this chain of errors is getting longer
[12:42] <ghostnik11> brainwash, yeah i cut it but it kept saying line 25, 44 and 50 errors
[12:43] <ghostnik11> brainwash, what did i do wrong
[12:43] <brainwash> not sure
[12:43] <ghostnik11> brainwash, lol cool
[12:43] <brainwash> did you add any kernel boot parameters?
[12:43] <brainwash> intel_backlight should be present by default I'd guess
[12:43] <ghostnik11> brainwash, no i don't think so but remember i just did the new kernel install of 4.13.1
[12:44] <brainwash> output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[12:45] <ghostnik11> brainwash, BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.13.1-041301-generic root=UUID=3e3f511f-d6f4-48b6-a17f-f2a2171c4876 ro intel_idle.max_cstate=0 quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[12:46] <brainwash> looks ok
[12:46] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[12:46] <brainwash> https://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04
[12:47] <brainwash> I can only suggest to test these various methods
[12:48] <ghostnik11> okay
[12:48] <brainwash> maybe it's possible to just replace "/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/birghtness" with "/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" in the script
[12:49] <ghostnik11> brainwash, will try that now
[12:49] <multifractal> Why does my Ubuntu installer not have the option to "install alongside Win10" or whatever?
[12:49] <brainwash> ghostnik11: but if something breaks, and it forces backlight to zero.. you will be left in the dark :>
[12:50] <brainwash> ghostnik11: so, best to test it without rebooting
[12:50] <ghostnik11> brainwash, in life its always worth the try because nothing in life beats a try
[12:50] <brainwash> don't make any permanent changes to the system until it really works
[12:51] <ducasse> multifractal: how much free space is there?
[12:51] <multifractal> Do I already need to have created a partiton for Ubuntu to live in? I don't recall having to do so with my current Win7/Ubuntu laptop... I think the Ubuntu installer made the partition itself.
[12:51] <ghostnik11> brainwash, okay should i run that command again. i changed that line
[12:51] <brainwash> ghostnik11: sure
[12:51] <multifractal> ducasse: I have a partition for Win10 currently with 460GB and 92% free.
[12:52] <ducasse> multifractal: i mean unpartitioned space
[12:53] <ghostnik11> brainwash, here is the new error from that command: https://pastebin.com/iJA2VRvu
[12:53] <multifractal> ducasse: see this screenshot from "Disks" app http://imgur.com/a/FGkDY I don't see any unpartitioned space.
[12:54] <multifractal> ducasse: Oh i tell a lie; 6.6MB apparently
[12:55] <brainwash> ghostnik11: and after doing "sudo modprobe cm3218x"?
[12:55] <ducasse> multifractal: yes, that's not enough. afaik you need a certain amount of unpartitioned space to get that option
[12:55] <ghostnik11> brainwash, thats the thing i don't think i have cm3218x
[12:55] <multifractal> ducasse: Oh I see, so I need to shrink the Win10 partition from within Windoes' "Disk Management" utility first?
[12:56] <ghostnik11> brainwash, it says module cm3218x isn't there in modules for 4.13.1
[12:57] <ducasse> multifractal: yep
[12:59] <multifractal> ducasse: In an ideal world, I would have a small Win10 OS + programs partition, a small Ubuntu + programs parition, and then a large shared partition for data. Therefore should I shrink the Win10 to e.g. 80GB, create a large "Shared" partition, and leave the remaining space to install Ubuntu?
[12:59] <multifractal> And what type of filesystem should "Shared" have?
[13:02] <ducasse> multifractal: how to partition is up to you, for shared data your best choice might be ntfs.
[13:03] <oerheks> maybe bootrepair will answer that your ubuntu is too far of the beginning of the disk..
[13:03] <brainwash> ghostnik11: looks like you have to build a kernel with a custom config then
[13:04] <brainwash> ghostnik11: one that enables cm3218x
[13:04] <ghostnik11> brainwash, sounds intense?
[13:04] <brainwash> I guess so
[13:04] <ghostnik11> brainwash, is that like from scratch or do i have a template?
[13:04] <brainwash> there is documentation of course
[13:05] <brainwash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[13:05] <brainwash> but I'm not an expert in this field
[13:05] <multifractal> ducasse: So with a shared NTFS partition, I'd be able to have a "Documents" and "Downloads" folder and stuff that both Win10 and Ubuntu can read and write to?
[13:06] <brainwash> ghostnik11: maybe the module could be build separately. best to ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[13:06] <ducasse> multifractal: both windows and ubuntu can read/wite to ntfs, yes
[13:07] <ghostnik11> brainwash, its all good. i have one more thing i want to work on b/4 i can make this a permanent thing for use at school? if not my backup plan is to take an old android tablet and just root it and put a custom rom on b/c i need this for school to read my digital textbooks but right now its not looking to good.
[13:08] <ducasse> ghostnik11: several of us _have_ been trying to warn you for several days the hardware in that thing is never going to work well with linux
[13:08] <brainwash> is auto brightness a must-have?
[13:08] <ghostnik11> brainwash, i have a problem with charging, even though when its plugged in it shows its charging but still decreases in energy instead of increasing but the thing is that when its off it charges. i ordered a new ac brick
[13:08] <ghostnik11> brainwash, well only when it comes to reading
[13:08] <ghostnik11> ducasse, well it was worth a shot b/c if i didn't try i would have never known
[13:09] <ghostnik11> ducasse, better to try and than not to
[13:10] <brainwash> I encourage you test with a different distribution also
[13:21] <fallenour_> !ceph
[13:22] <ghostnik11> brainwash, i have to charge it again so i won't be able to come back and test it. thanks all your help bro. and for teaching me a lot. i am very grateful. ducasse still will try bro, ubuntu and the whole linux community has never failed me and has helped me through school and it will keep doing that. thanks bro
[13:23] <multifractal> ducasse: WOOOO thanks! I finally got my dual boot setup working! :D
[13:23] <ducasse> !yay | multifractal
[13:25] <ducasse> multifractal: i suggest you stay away from touching any firmware settings now ;)
[13:35] <Logitech> I've got an old laptop.  Core 2 duo 1.83 ghz, 1gb ram.  What distro of Linux should I use on this dinosaur?
[13:35] <m1chael> I am connected to a VPN and my provider instructed me to issue this command via the prompt: sudo route add <IP_ADDRESS>/8 dev ppp0 # however this is not the correct syntax for Mint. can anyone fix this command syntax for me? I'm using Linux Mint 18, unsure if the syntax is the same for Ubuntu.
[13:38] <beforeclick> michael what is the name of your network card
[13:38] <beforeclick> m1chael: what is the name of your network card
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !flavors | Logitech
[13:39] <m1chael> beforeclick: i've verified that ppp0 is the correct network device
[13:39] <beforeclick> well and what error do you get?
[13:39] <ducasse> Logitech: try lubuntu or xubuntu
[13:39] <Logitech> its too slow even for Lubuntu
[13:40] <m1chael> http://dpaste.com/1370H74
[13:40] <ducasse> !mint | m1chael
[13:40] <m1chael> ducasse: okay. i'll keep my questions here ubuntu-specific
[13:43] <ducasse> m1chael: as you're using mint, you should use their support
[13:44] <mtpocketscnc> I have an older 32bit computer with precise on it to run linuxcnc and have tried ndiswrapper for netgear n300 wna3100 usb adaptor. I have not been able to get ndiswrapper to work. Is it possible to share my laptops wireless through ethernet to precise machine(laptop runs ubuntu) or should i just cut my losses and try and find another more ubuntu friendly usb adaptor. I have tried a few different methods i found searching google
[13:44] <mtpocketscnc> but with no luck.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Logitech, as ducasse suggests, xubuntu is probly your best bet
[13:44] <oerheks> mtpocketscnc, precise 12.04 is EOL, dead, please upgrade
[13:46] <beforeclick> m1chael: that is a vpn interface and what is the aim yare you trying to route a net or a single host?
[13:46] <beforeclick> also are you sure you don't already have a route to that range?
[13:47] <ducasse> mtpocketscnc: there are sites that sell wifi interfaces that are designed to work well with linux, you could try one of those
[13:48] <mtpocketscnc> yeah i kinda figured i would probably have to get another wifi adaptor. Thank you
[13:48] <beforeclick> mtpocketscnc: mtpocketscnc what does lsusb say?
[13:58] <beforeclick> mtpocketscnc: did you check https://askubuntu.com/questions/899829/wi-fi-adapter-refusing-to-work-netgear-wna3100
[14:00] <beforeclick> but to be honest, I'd probably get another adapter anyway. This is bound to test your patience again next time you install a new distro.
[14:17] <girlielt> grub; I have 3 kernels, so how do boot one of my choice
[14:18] <ducasse> girlielt: hold left shift on boot
[14:20] <capu> Ola guys, i have a problem with libgcurl11. One game doesn't want to start because (error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory). libgcrypt11 and libgcrypt20 are BOTH installed... Which common solutions are there for this problem?
[14:20] <capu> ah, im using elementary OS. thats Ubuntu 16.04.2
[14:21] <oerheks> capu, it is *not* ubuntu, join their channel please
[14:21] <capu> lol
[14:21] <capu> maakt toch niet zoveel uit? :p
[14:22] <beforeclick> :) elementary isn't that a RHEL clown?
[14:22] <capu> Its linux
[14:22] <ducasse> !based on ubuntu | capu
[14:24] <capu> ubottu: thanks, will do
[14:24] <oerheks> elementary/pantheon has its own issues, that is why
[14:25] <ducasse> capu: check with alis or look at their website for their support forums
[14:27] <sary> capu: /join #elementary
[14:36] <graingert> is there anywhere I can find all the rdepends of a package?
[14:36] <graingert> not just those installed on my system
[14:36] <graingert> eg on a website
[14:37] <ducasse> graingert: 'apt rdepends packagename'
[14:37] <graingert> ducasse: any way to do it when I'm not sat on an ubuntu machine
[14:39] <ducasse> can't think of one, i don't think that info is available on packages.ubuntu.com
[14:45] <CreativeWolf> Heya all :)
[14:54] <linuxnoob011> hey all, figured i'd do another push to see if anyone has ideas for how i can get my (ubuntu 16.04's internal) ethernet card up and running.
[14:55] <ducasse> linuxnoob011: which chipset?
[14:56] <linuxnoob011> ducasse, https://pastebin.com/
[14:56] <linuxnoob011> (from lshw -c network)
[14:58] <ducasse> linuxnoob011: check that url again
[14:59] <linuxnoob011> woops, ducasse--sorry: https://pastebin.com/ygd6GtSP
[14:59] <linuxnoob011> i apparently need another cup of coffee ^^
[15:01] <ducasse> linuxnoob011: and what's the problem?
[15:01] <linuxnoob011> so the internal ethernet card doesn't have an ip address, despite being set up in the vanilla 16.04 way (i.e., nothing weird in the configuration files--working from a near-clean install)
[15:02] <linuxnoob011> can't even ping the local loop from the internal ethernet card
[15:02] <linuxnoob011> usb ethernet card works fine, as does wifi (internal and usb)
[15:02] <ducasse> are you using network manager or ifup/ifdown?
[15:03] <linuxnoob011> hmm, devices are not "managed," but i am using netowrk manager--i.e., it is not disabled
[15:05] <ducasse> is there an entry for it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:05] <linuxnoob011> no, not currently. will cat that file and upload it, so you can see
[15:05] <linuxnoob011> https://pastebin.com/DyEVVamM
[15:06] <linuxnoob011> note that all lines except config of loopback commented out
[15:06] <ducasse> i see
[15:06] <linuxnoob011> also, here's the NM config file: https://pastebin.com/TkS5DYPG
[15:06] <linuxnoob011> note managed = false
[15:07] <ducasse> you might want to try uncommenting the lines for that card, edit them to suit and try to raise the interface
[15:08] <linuxnoob011> will try that. IIRC, it takes the static ip, but doesn't get connectivity
[15:10] <linuxnoob011> ok, might get dc'ed here. gonna restart network manager
[15:10] <ducasse> i noticed it was set to 100mbps, try setting 1gbps with ethtool
[15:10] <linuxnoob011> it won't take!
[15:10] <linuxnoob011> (with ethtool)
[15:11] <linuxnoob011> oh this is bonker balls: set the static ip, restarted NM, confirmed enp7s0 up with ifup (got device already configured)
[15:12] <linuxnoob011> but when i ping ('ping -I enp7s0 -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>') i get a destination unreachable
[15:12] <linuxnoob011> and moreover, the result implies the static ip on the enp7s0 is .169, not .162
[15:13] <linuxnoob011> ducasse, https://pastebin.com/e8giQyEu
[15:13] <ducasse> which kernel?
[15:13] <linuxnoob011> uname -r
[15:13] <linuxnoob011> 4.10.0-33-generic
[15:15] <linuxnoob011> weird, uname -a says i have 16.04.1, but pretty darn sure i installed .3...
[15:15] <linuxnoob011> am i noobishly missing something?
[15:16] <ducasse> so, up to date. if you have that kernel you should be on .3
[15:16] <nicomachus> linuxnoob011: what about lsb_release -a?
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> ah, good call: lsb_release -a
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> No LSB modules are available.
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> Release:	16.04
[15:16] <linuxnoob011> Codename:	xenial
[15:17] <nicomachus> and there it is
[15:17] <linuxnoob011> yeah, i guess uname -a does not show all of the relevant info. strikes me as weird that it would explicitly say 16.04.1 then
[15:20] <nacc> linuxnoob011: what does `uname -a` actually say ?
[15:20] <linuxnoob011> my network manager gui exhibits weird behavior, which i wanted to flag in case it helps you folks divine what is wrong. First, the internal ethernet device is displayed as not managed, but the usb ethernet device is displayed as plugged in. sometimes, the nternal ethernet device comes up as plugged in--even when it does, no ip is assigned. finally, despite having disabled wifi, the network manager symbol at the top flashes the indicator implying a
[15:20] <linuxnoob011> wifi connection is being established (the wifi symbol with blinking bars)
[15:21] <linuxnoob011> nacc https://pastebin.com/8mG6g6BM
[15:21] <nacc> linuxnoob011: that's the build info, not the system you are on
[15:21] <linuxnoob011> maybe the #37 is doing the work that .3 usually does?
[15:22] <nacc> linuxnoob011: no, it's unrelated
[15:22] <linuxnoob011> ah, i see!
[15:22] <nacc> linuxnoob011: uname doenst' contain any release info
[15:22] <linuxnoob011> thanks!
[15:22] <nacc> linuxnoob011: (in the sense of release info you actually should assume means something)
[15:30] <girlielt> why is no one is #ubuntu-kernel
[15:30] <girlielt> ?
[15:32] <ioria> girlielt, can we help you ?
[15:33] <vlt> girlielt: Before you can examine *why* something is you first have to confirm *that* something is (true) ;-)
[15:33] <linuxnoob011> on my ethernet issue, this result from dmesg strikes me as a bit weird: https://pastebin.com/MaCUuukt
[15:34] <linuxnoob011> having trouble telling how often the link is going up or down, gonna tail my syslog
[15:35] <girlielt> if my router is hacked, then could my pc get hacked/
[15:36] <oerheks> girlielt, but ubuntu is "hardened" .. lolz
[15:37] <girlielt> if my router is hacked, then could my pc get hacked/
[15:37] <dedondesta> hello, i was able to install ubuntu server 17 on my m.2 ssd (via pci-x adapter), but the problem is i wasn't able to boot from it due to bios can't see this device as bootable, i was trying to install grub on usb drive (which can be seen as bootable device) but it gave me error all the time, do i need to prepare usb in certain way for grub to be able to install on it?
[15:39] <dedondesta> girlielt: update firmware, set long password, problem solved
[15:39] <girlielt> if my router is hacked, then could my pc get hacked/
[15:39] <nacc> !patience | girlielt
[15:39] <nacc> girlielt: also, not an ubuntu support topic
[15:39] <girlielt> yes or no, just say that.
[15:39] <oerheks> *if* ... maybe.
[15:39] <nacc> girlielt: but in any case, yes.
[15:39] <girlielt> which firmware are you talking ? router firmware.?
[15:39] <oerheks> but ubuntu is safe, with firewall and all updates.
[15:40] <nacc> girlielt: "could my pc get hacked?" -- yes. The prior clause seems irrelevant
[15:40] <girlielt> nacc: how
[15:40] <dedondesta> girlielt: router firmware
[15:40] <nacc> girlielt: not relevant, you said 'yes or no'
[15:40] <girlielt> no how could ubuntu get hacked?
[15:40] <dedondesta> anyone about my question?
[15:40] <girlielt> how do I remove the ubuntu bloatware?
[15:40] <girlielt> to make it unhackable
[15:40] <dedondesta> girlielt: mininstall
[15:40] <oerheks> there is no bloatware in ubuntu
[15:41] <Menzador> I think they mean the Amazon scope
[15:42] <girlielt> Nah, I go for the full install, and choose what to keep. so the question is what ato remove?
[15:42] <girlielt> there are tons of packages running
[15:42] <nacc> girlielt: whatever you don't need.
[15:42] <dedondesta> girlielt: try the other way around
[15:42] <girlielt> I want to know what ubuntu is doing behind my back.
[15:42] <dedondesta> girlielt: install only what you need
[15:42] <oerheks> !fud
[15:43] <Menzador> Just go through Ubuntu Software and toss what you don't need.
[15:43] <girlielt> no no. I want to remove everything. and from that I will choose what to keep
[15:43] <nacc> girlielt: ok, go do that.
[15:43] <dedondesta> yeah
[15:43] <girlielt> Menzador: that's fine-but most packages don't show in the ubuntu software center.
[15:43] <dedondesta> just do it!
[15:43] <girlielt> I want to disable the  running services, not just packages.
[15:43] <Menzador> dedondesta: ((Nike much?))
[15:44] <girlielt> I have no idea, what ubuntu is cooking behind my back. I don't like when no info is provided, although I like the OS
[15:44] <dedondesta> girlielt: sudo apt list --installed
[15:44] <nacc> girlielt: FUD, again.
[15:44] <nacc> girlielt: "
[15:44] <nacc> girlielt: "no info is provided"?
[15:44] <dedondesta> Menzador: sure ;)
[15:44] <ducasse> girlielt: do you have an actual, reasonable support question?
[15:45] <linuxnoob011> ok, i have new, potentially relevant info on my ethernet struggles. and basically, i'm wondering if anyone knows anything about mdns. i read it's sometimes a culprit for buggy networking...http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25515079/
[15:45] <girlielt> but what about the services on boot running behind me
[15:46] <linuxnoob011> i got the ethernet card to take an ip (it's set to get a static ip from /etc/network/interfaces), but stillc an't ping the router or the local loop
[15:46] <ducasse> girlielt: remove the packages, and they'll be gone
[15:46] <dedondesta> girlielt: service --status-all
[15:46] <dedondesta> err
[15:46] <girlielt> doesn't ubuntu use systemd?
[15:46] <girlielt> or it still uses service
[15:47] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: route -n
[15:47] <oerheks> linuxnoob011, ping -I enp7s0 -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ????
[15:47] <linuxnoob011> oerheks, are oyu asking about that line?
[15:47] <oerheks> both <IP_ADDRESS> ( not your gateway) and <IP_ADDRESS> ...why do you ping those?
[15:47] <blacknred0> so, I'm in a point that I need to format my sd card to something that is cross platform when i mount it and preserve permissions (now is exfat). so, my question is, does ntfs preserve permissions if i were to mount the sd card on win, mac, or ubuntu linux?
[15:48] <linuxnoob011> why isn't <IP_ADDRESS> my GW? and the latter is the local loop--trying to see if card has any connectivity
[15:48] <girlielt> ducasse: which services of systemd are running behind my back
[15:48] <linuxnoob011> pavlos let me bring the ethernet card back up and run route -n. i lose connectivity when i bring the internal ethernet card up
[15:48] <ducasse> girlielt: nothing is running 'behind your back', everything is fully visible
[15:49] <oerheks> <IP_ADDRESS> is not in use > Host Unreachable
[15:49] <tgm4883> girlielt: To see all enabled services, you can run "systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled"
[15:50] <linuxnoob011> oerheks, that's the problem! <IP_ADDRESS> is my gateway, but i get heat message anyway
[15:50] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: fyi you can ping 0 same as ping localhost same as ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:50] <JoeLlama> There used to be a #moblin channel, anyone know why it's gone?  Is moblin any good?
[15:50] <girlielt> tgm4883: ok; what's the difference between units and unit-files; is it a one to one mapping.
[15:50] <girlielt> Why not units?
[15:51] <girlielt> ducasse: it is not visible because of GUI. I need to find a way to reach the backend
[15:51] <ducasse> JoeLlama: offtopic, ask in #freenode
[15:51] <JoeLlama> thanks :)
[15:51] <JoeLlama> how about moblin itself, is it a good version/platform for netbooks?
[15:52] <tgm4883> girlielt: because you're trying to find what is enabled....
[15:52] <linuxnoob011> lol, i think i hit pastebin limit pavlos
[15:52] <nacc> JoeLlama: not an ubuntu support topic
[15:52] <ducasse> girlielt: that makes no sense. use systemctl, see the man page.
[15:52] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: route -n | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:52] <JoeLlama> oh hrm...  moblin is ubuntu...  um... ok thanks
[15:52] <multifractal> I just set up my laptop with Win10, Ubuntu and shared partitions. It seemed to have been working OK, but when I just booted into Ubuntu after Win10 and tried to open the shared partition in Nautilus I get an error: "Unable to access <the drive>, Error mounting... The disk contains an unclean file system... Failed to mount, the NTFS filesystem is in an unsafe state, please resume and shutdown... read-only with the 'ro' mount option"
[15:53] <ducasse> !flavors | JoeLlama only these are ubuntu
[15:53] <girlielt> tgm4883: so maybe I should look for units and not unit-files? as some files may have units that are not enabled
[15:53] <JoeLlama> ah, okay gotcha!
[15:53] <girlielt> and running in the ram.
[15:53] <tgm4883> girlielt: why don't you run the commands without the grep statement and see what it outputs....
[15:54] <JoeLlama> last question then, which flavor of ubuntu is good for Intel Atom support on a netbook?
[15:54] <linuxnoob011> pavlos, it won't work. if you want to see route -n when i have my ethernet card up, i won't have internet, so i won't be able to use nc, right?
[15:55] <linuxnoob011> pavlos, made an account to get a higher limit: https://pastebin.com/DPfeArVt
[15:55]  * JoeLlama has a pile of Intel Atom netbooks and is wants to install ubuntu
[15:55] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: dont worry about it ... seems that if enp7 gets a static ip, it cannot see the gw (.1.1) that's strange
[15:55] <linuxnoob011> so the first route -n shows the result when my internal ethernet card is not up
[15:55] <girlielt> but units too displays the enabled units?
[15:55] <linuxnoob011> i then bring the card up and re-run it, which is the second route -n
[15:56] <JoeLlama> looks like I'm going with Lubuntu
[15:56] <JoeLlama> thanks! :)
[15:57] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: you can have both enp (laptop rj45) and enx (thats the usb dongle) active and the route -n will show all ifaces
[15:57] <linuxnoob011> pavlos it won't if enp is not active, right? like if you ifdown a device and then call route -n, you won't see routes for the disabled device, no?
[15:58] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: if interface is down, there is no route -n for that iface
[15:58] <girlielt> iptablesiptables.service                                                                 loaded active exited    Packet Filtering Framework
[15:59] <girlielt> and it's enabled, but others don't match; even though loaded active exited
[15:59] <linuxnoob011> ya, and i need to keep my ethernet card down when not running commands for you guys, as the card being active kills my internet, period--on any device, no matter what
[15:59] <linuxnoob011> does this log help at all pavlos? https://pastebin.com/Da1BizBb
[16:00] <linuxnoob011> it's my syslog, which i'm tailing, and that is what it reported while i brought the ethernet card up
[16:00] <linuxnoob011> can also send you what dmesg generated
[16:00] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: line 11 shows enp is active but then it get disconnected
[16:01] <girlielt> both are conflicting
[16:01] <girlielt> upower.service ...disabled.
[16:01] <girlielt> upower.service                                                                   loaded active running   Daemon for power managemen
[16:01] <girlielt> I don't understand tgm4883
[16:01] <linuxnoob011> pavlos i think that might be a manual disconnect
[16:02] <linuxnoob011> remember, i need to take the card down to communicate with you guys
[16:02] <linuxnoob011> the reference to mdns is what gets me worried. i have this sense that mdns is a mess and can cause networking issues, but i don't know much about it
[16:03] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: setup enp7 as static, let it get .162  Re: the mDNS give me the line hosts: in /etc/nssswitch.conf
[16:03] <linuxnoob011> pavlos enp7s0 is set up as static, for .162. without setting it up as static, it never gets an ip at all
[16:03] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] wins dns
[16:03] <ducasse> girlielt: why don't you read the systemd docs, then?
[16:04] <tgm4883> girlielt: what's not to understand?
[16:04] <linuxnoob011> pavlos https://pastebin.com/MQycgVtR
[16:04] <linuxnoob011> i had already checked this file, and tried an alternate setting found online, when it didn't work, i reverted, but still think issue might lie in this space
[16:05] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: can you sudo edit /etc/nssswitch.conf and match the line I pasted
[16:05] <linuxnoob011> sure! so replace my hosts: line with what you pasted
[16:06] <tgm4883> girlielt: it's disabled. So it's not going to start at boot. But you can still start it other ways
[16:06] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: yes, I have a wins before the last dns
[16:06] <CreativeWolf> Folks, Is there an alternative for pessulus?
[16:07] <linuxnoob011> pavlos done, https://pastebin.com/g5Hz7neX. want me to bring the card back up and try pinging the GW and the local loop again?
[16:07] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: make enp7 active (static) and try ping 0, then ping gw
[16:08] <linuxnoob011> will do. might get dc'ed; if so, brb
[16:11] <JoeLlama> is Moblin considered to be obsolete?
[16:11] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: looking at the ifconfig of enp7, I see RX packets:85389 errors:85384 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:78225
[16:11] <nacc> JoeLlama: again, not a topic for the ubuntu support channel.
[16:12] <JoeLlama> ya ok thanks nacc
[16:12]  * JoeLlama tries to mind his P's and Q's
[16:12] <pavlos> ducasse: apologies if I jumped in ...
[16:13] <zarzar> hello I found blogs and sites showing several different ways to install eclipse on ubuntu 16 LTS, can someone tell me best practice for setting up ecplipse on ubuntu 16LTS?
[16:15] <girlielt> ducasse: where are the systemd docs , there are no such things as that.
[16:15] <girlielt> I read only man systemd.
[16:17] <linuxnoob011> pavlos i'm back. i could ping the local loop if i specified 0 as the address, but not <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:17] <linuxnoob011> i could not ping the gw (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[16:18] <linuxnoob011> i could ping both the local loop AND the gateway from the usb ethernet card, so the mdns fix did something (namely, kept other card semiactive while ethernet was up)
[16:18] <oerheks> good start: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal ++++ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[16:19] <linuxnoob011> but i couldn't remotely log in to the computer while the ethernet card is up--that is, comp looks to be trying to route traffic to the internal ethernet card, which is not receiving packets. that said, the computer did show up in the local network discovery of my remote desktop app, suggesting the router is aware of the computer. and it showed up with a .162 address--that is, i was seeing the comp based on the internal ethernet card
[16:19] <linuxnoob011> i'm back to thinking that this isn't a hardware problem
[16:19] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: take a look at /etc/hosts
[16:20] <linuxnoob011> will do. also wanted to note that i thought i had disabled ipv6 systemwide, but i keep seeing reference to ipv6 stuff on the internal ethernet device
[16:20] <linuxnoob011> https://pastebin.com/sQJci74Z
[16:21] <JoeLlama> has anyone here had experience with Broadcom Crystal HD video accellerator support under ubuntu?
[16:21] <ducasse> girlielt: you can't have looked very hard - https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
[16:21] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: 2 lines, <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> actualhostname which should match /etc/hostname
[16:23] <linuxnoob011> confirmed that the info i removed matches /etc/hostname
[16:23] <linuxnoob011> like [name of pc] actually reads what i get when i call cat /etc/hostname
[16:24] <pavlos> linuxnoob011: whats the actualhostname ... say bob, then ping bob should work
[16:24] <girlielt> hoola
[16:25] <girlielt> what's the equivalent version of arch build system on ubuntu? and to builda pkg
[16:25] <girlielt> is it complicated?
[16:25] <girlielt> teh same goes for making a ubuntu derivative
[16:25] <linuxnoob011> also, note that cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6 returns "1." why am i seeing stuff about ipv6 for ym internal ethernet card (e.g., in ifconfig)
[16:25] <girlielt> I know these are advanced things, for ubuntu, but any linux distro should be able to handle it.
[16:25] <girlielt> after all it's linux, not filthy windows
[16:29] <heller_> hey
[16:29] <heller_> some tips on how to make samba share writable if logged in and read only for others?
[16:32] <girlielt> after all it's linux, not filthy windows
[16:32] <girlielt> what's the equivalent version of build system on ubuntu?
[16:33] <girlielt> dpkg thing,to make a pkg for ubuntu from src
[16:40] <foca_> How can I monitoring my network log to check if there are any errors happening ?
[16:43] <linuxnoob011> what do you mean by your network log foca_? ppl here with lots more experience than i have, but i'd look at my syslog or dmesg for interface specific errors
[16:44] <linuxnoob011> as in 'cat /var/log/syslog' or 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[16:44] <linuxnoob011> or 'dmesg | grep eth0'
[16:45] <linuxnoob011> you can "tail" dmesg i think with dmesg -wH
[16:46] <th0r> or you can  display as a wallpaper using roottail or conky
[16:47] <foca_> linuxnoob011: Something is wrong with my network, it stops to reach websites for few seconds and returns quickly but it happens more than 3 times per day. I'd want to check some log to find out what is happening.
[16:47] <oerheks> !build | girlielt
[16:48] <zarzar> there should be a way to install eclipse c/c++ via software denter instead of generic eclipse
[16:48] <oerheks> !info eclipse
[17:10] <jamie_1> hey for some odd reason my touch pad isnt working, anyone know how to debug it. I have both a touch pad and the keyboard dot mouse and neither are working which leads me to believe that the issue is software
[17:11] <jamie_1> at one point i had changed the settings in grub to fully load the mouse on start which worked, but for some odd reason now after waking my laptop from sleep it stopped working and still isnt working after a reboot
[17:11] <oerheks> jamie_1, does that laptop ( i presume) have a FN key + mouse/touchpad/both ??
[17:12] <jamie_1> oerheks: i thought that too but none of the buttons on the keyboard show the mouse emblem
[17:12] <oerheks> that was my only clue :-(
[17:13] <jamie_1> oerheks: right now im still on the computer thats not working... could you do a quick google for me and check to see if there is one im just not seeing?
[17:13] <jamie_1> i have a lenovo thinkpad l440
[17:21] <oerheks> jamie, nope... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nl9BIgaakXg/maxresdefault.jpg
[17:22] <jamie_1> oerheks: thanks... didnt think so
[17:22] <jamie_1> ugh... sucks because the last time i fixed it i modified the grub with a work around
[17:24] <oerheks> is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics  installed? apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[17:25] <TuxFuk> hello
[17:26] <oost> Is it normal for a thinkpad to be able and get all keys out together?
[17:26] <TuxFuk> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a usb stick so that I can boot it using uefi
[17:26] <oost> (looking at screenshot above)
[17:27] <TuxFuk> the issue is that there are no uefi files in the boot partition
[17:27] <oerheks> oost, get all keys out together?
[17:27] <oerheks> TuxFuk, ubuntu iso is uefi compatible, AFAIK, see the manual
[17:27] <oerheks> !uefi
[17:28] <oerheks> you will need a 250-500 mb fat32 partition for that..
[17:28] <TuxFuk> oerheks: i've done that. it still does not have any files in the boot partition
[17:28] <oost> oerheks: yes, your url to a picture of a thinkpad, made me think whether lifting out all keys is possible on all thinkpads.
[17:29] <TuxFuk> because /boot/efi is completely blank
[17:31] <multifractal> Sorry if this is ot, but has anyone ever had Clonezilla freeze up, just after choosing screen resolution? Choosing "Failsafe graphics mode" just causes a couple of lines to flash up then return straight to the resolution choosing menu.
[17:31] <oerheks> oost, ah hardware, yes you could, but there must be a munual for that, ibm has a clever strip that needs to be removed before you can flip the switches to release the keyboard
[17:31] <oerheks> done that once, few years ago
[17:32] <oerheks> TuxFuk, that manual is al i know, i have no experience with uefi, maybe someone else in this channel is able to help ?
[17:36] <girlielt> hi
[17:36] <girlielt> ubuntu uses the old kernel, and centos even older
[17:36] <girlielt> doesn't it make it more insecuree?
[17:38] <oerheks> and what ubuntu version is this? LTS got a older kernel, but security patches are applied anyway
[17:41] <oost> ...looks nifty on this picture.
[17:43] <Cu5tosLimen> hi
[17:43] <Cu5tosLimen> I'm looking for a download manager to replace downthemall
[17:44] <Cu5tosLimen> chrono download manager really sucks badly
[17:44] <Cu5tosLimen> it is completely broken
[17:45] <oerheks> !info uget
[17:46] <Cu5tosLimen> tjamls oerheks
[17:47] <oerheks> there are more, but some needs a PPA to be added.. http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-linux-download-managers
[17:51] <michalp> Hello every body, know somebody how mount whole disc via fstab or other way from network?
[17:52] <michalp> I know only how mount files on disc over fstab, but I don't know how mount whole disc
[17:54] <jamie_1> still trying to figure out why my mouse isnt working... pain in the butt to do with no mouse XD
[18:02] <glitsj16> michalp: you can configure that via /etc/fstab --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:04] <michalp> I try, but no function, example, I have disc where is file movie. I put to fstab /<IP_ADDRESS>./movie /mnt/networkdisc  and this works fine, but <IP_ADDRESS>/ /mnt/networkdisc no function
[18:05] <michalp> I want mount whole disc at once, not only files
[18:07] <michalp> and I can't find any way how mount whole disc. My disc connect to wifi router
[18:09] <oost> michalp: don't you want to put your files in a shared folder and share it with samba over your network?
[18:12] <michalp> I have many folders on disc. like movie, photos etc. But when I use fstab, I need mount each folder in fstab, but I want mount all folders in one line in fstab, clear?
[18:12] <jamie_1> anyone know how to debug touchpad input? it isnt working rather suddenly, and both the touchpad and the keyboard dot mouse are not working at the same time which leads me to believe its software
[18:12] <michalp> now I need make for each folder each line in fstab
[18:13] <michalp> Like for movie /ip/movie /mnt/movie, /ip/photos /mnt/photos
[18:13] <michalp> etc
[18:14] <michalp> I want mount /ip/all /mnt/all
[18:14] <michalp> something like this
[18:14] <akik> michalp: create a new folder and then move all the folders in to the new folder, then share that folder
[18:15] <alekz> Hello, I'm having some issues with kernel-headers. Any idea? Here is the problem described: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2371041
[18:15] <michalp> this one I cannot, bcs my router donť know make permission for sub folders :(
[18:15] <jamie_1> its not showing up on cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[18:15] <jamie_1> it might be a kernal issue
[18:16] <jamie_1> anyone know how to debug from there XD
[18:17] <jamie_1> i only know how to get as far as whether the computer knows its there or not
[18:18] <jamie_1> its detecting no synaptic inputs at all
[18:18] <michalp> when I want share only music for anybody than I cannot, bcs in setting of my router dont know.  When I create for example folder All and everything put inside, my router can set access only for All folder, and sub folder will be free for all..
[18:20] <michalp> I read that fstab know mount disc by uuid, but how get this information form network
[18:21] <michalp> it looks like big problem right?
[18:23] <pavlos> michalp: are you mounting ntfs or cifs ?
[18:23] <michalp> cifs, disc is ext3
[18:29] <michalp> is it possible modify anything in router? I check samba.conf in router
[18:29] <Adnol> howdy yall
[18:29] <michalp> there are same lines about folders on disc
[18:33] <pavlos> michalp: either you share <IP_ADDRESS>/sharename /mnt or you have to individually mount movies, images to /mnt/movies, /mnt/images
[18:36] <michalp> I have many folders like movie, photos etc, and I want ip/allfolders /mnt/all in one line in fstab, something like <IP_ADDRESS>/ /mnt/networkdisck
[18:41] <tgm4883> michalp: that's not going to happen unless you share out the folder containing all of them itself
[18:42] <michalp> so If I will have 20 folders on disc, I need create 20 lines in fstab for each Pc at home?
[18:43] <tgm4883> michalp: if you want to mount 20 different CIFS shares, then yes, you will need 20 lines in fstab
[18:43] <clippng> Hi, I've recently switched to UBUNTU Mate 16.04 from Windows 10, on a T460 Thinkpad. On Windows 10, I used the Lenovo Power Management program to cap my battery at charging to 90% to preserve battery life(?) and after switching completely to Linux I have found that my battery settings from the W10 install have stayed. Does anyone have any idea of how I can change it to get my battery back to being able to charge to 100%?
[18:43] <michalp> I see :(
[18:44] <pavlos> michalp: you might try defining a [all] with path = / and browsable = yes
[18:44] <Adnol> anyone here into diapers/farts?
[18:44] <Adnol> wait sorry wrong channel
[18:45] <michalp> In router is not more setting for access.
[18:45] <michalp> I use web setting
[18:46] <michalp> There is only folder in root / and access r, r/w , no access
[18:46] <pavlos> michalp: so the router has an smb.conf ?
[18:47] <michalp> yes, I can modify samba.conf via telnet
[18:48] <Adnol> do you rearrange the lepton rods before you accelerate the photon resonator array?
[18:48] <pavlos> michalp: you telnet to the router, get a shell and then modify samba.conf ... well, define another share [all] with what I wrote earlier No sure if that'll work though
[18:52] <michalp> there is something like this [movie]  comment = sda's movie in ST950032 5AS     path = /tmp/mnt/sda/movie  dos filetimes = yes    fake directory create times = yes  valid users = bla, bla, bla read list = bla  write list = bla
[18:53] <nettlejam> Package version question: Does anyone know why even the upcoming Ubuntu release (Artful) only includes tomcat 8.0.x in its repos, when Debian has had 8.5.x for a long time (it's even in the current stable release of Debian)?
[18:53] <michalp> So do zou thng that if I will create path = /tmp/mnt/sda/ than I will see whole disc?
[18:53] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1 | nettlejam
[18:54] <brainwash> clippng: I suggest reading through http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
[18:54] <NginUS> Suddenly (in KDE) my window titlebar buttons disappear when maximized & I can only close from the taskbar right-click menu... Help??!
[18:56] <nettlejam> OK, thanks. I thought it was a more general question of 'why is Ubuntu lagging behind Debian in package versions', but I will ask it in there.
[19:10] <marekw2143> how can I check if usb works in 3.0 modde?
[19:11] <reisio> transfer speed test
[19:12] <brainwash> marekw2143: https://askubuntu.com/questions/604158/how-do-i-tell-if-a-usb-thumb-drive-is-usb-3-0
[19:14] <pavlos> michalp: fyi I was able to define [all] with path = / and was able to mount //remote/all /mnt and ls /mnt showed me the root filesystem of remote.
[19:17] <michalp> but what is //remote/all/ mean all, it is folder? means folder all where inside is all others folders
[19:17] <michalp> _
[19:17] <michalp> ?
[19:19] <pavlos> michalp: remote is another server, all is a share that points to / (root) so I can ls/mnt and see all dirs
[19:19] <pavlos> michalp: in your case remote is <IP_ADDRESS> and if are able to define the [all] share, ls /mnt should show movies images and all those 20 dirs
[19:20] <pavlos> michalp: this is between 2 ubuntu systems, I dont have the router setup but is an example
[19:20] <michalp> this one no fuction, when I set in fstab /<IP_ADDRESS>/ /mnt/  on my pc can not see anything
[19:21] <michalp> My pc see only when I set /ip/and some folder on disc
[19:21] <pavlos> michalp: you need a sharename, in your case <IP_ADDRESS>/all (if defined in the samba.conf)
[19:22] <michalp> so in samba I will set just /
[19:22] <michalp> without any folder
[19:22] <michalp> do you mean this?
[19:22] <pavlos> michalp: define a share, [all] path = / browsable = yes
[19:23] <michalp> I see
[19:23] <michalp> I will try
[19:24] <pavlos> michalp: restart samba in your router after changes
[19:25] <michalp> and browsable = yes, it is what, I just worry that it will see others outside on internet
[19:25] <KeyboardNotFound> I had some problems with iwlwifi, I booted older CD with kernel 3.19 and I don't have that problems. Will copying only firmware files fix my problem or I will have to run older kernel ?
[19:30] <TuxFuk> got it fixed
[19:31] <pavlos> michalp: this is within your local network 192.168.1.*
[19:31] <michalp> I see, ok
[19:32] <michalp> I will try it, So will be offline, because I try restart samba, but it doesnt work, so I will restart whole router
[19:32] <michalp> anyway, many thnaks for help
[19:33] <michalp> *thanks :)
[19:42] <alekz> Hello amigos! Come on and help me =)
[19:43] <alekz> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2371041
[19:48] <tgm4883> alekz: you're not going to find much help for an out of support OS
[19:50] <alekz> :(
[19:54] <oerheks> unmaintained project.. http://www.openss7.org/download.html
[19:58] <madLyfe> do you have to install grub?
[20:00] <ducasse> madLyfe: you need a bootloader, but you're not forced to use grub
[20:01] <madLyfe> ah k
[20:02] <ducasse> but if you don't know how to configure one of the alternatives, and you want your system to boot then you need grub
[20:03] <madLyfe> im actually installing server on a microSD card
[20:03] <madLyfe> the only OS there so i just did it to the default MBR
[20:04] <ducasse> sd cards are not ideal to run an os from
[20:04] <madLyfe> for a mining server running server they are.
[20:06] <reisio> ducasse: what is?
[20:08] <ducasse> reisio: good point, but pretty much anything handles any amount of writes better
[20:08] <madLyfe> i always get this after i install server to it and reboot though:
[20:08] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QakJoRAR/irccloudcapture683196535.jpg
[20:10] <reisio> ducasse: what like a usb stick? :p
[20:10] <reisio> like a PATA spinner?
[20:10]  * reisio rolls eyes
[20:10] <madLyfe> i mostly use those. im trying to use an mSD card for reasons.
[20:10] <reisio> madLyfe: yeah that's fine
[20:10] <reisio> what's the problem?
[20:11] <madLyfe> its in that image i just posted
[20:11] <madLyfe> 'error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'.'
[20:11] <madLyfe> entering rescue mode..
[20:11] <arunpyasi> does anyone have any idea what WebEss is ?
[20:11] <reisio> madLyfe: wait is this for foocoin mining?
[20:11] <madLyfe> grub rescue>
[20:12] <madLyfe> i dont know what foocoin mining is.
[20:12] <reisio> arunpyasi: context?
[20:12] <reisio> madLyfe: 'mining server'?
[20:13] <transhuman> hi I have an nvida geforce 8600 GT (not much of a card I know but better than nothing ---maybe) anyone know what driver I should use the one ubuntu recommends doesnt seem to work get white underscore in top left corner on boot...thanks in advance
[20:13] <madLyfe> yes for mining
[20:13] <reisio> transhuman: which one is it recommending?
[20:13] <transhuman> s/nvida/nvidia
[20:13] <reisio> madLyfe: for bitcoin, etc.?
[20:13] <transhuman> shit cant remember now and the damn thing wont boot back into desktop
[20:13] <madLyfe> ya
[20:13] <reisio> transhuman: 'nvidia', the driver?
[20:14] <reisio> madLyfe: ah, then I'm afraid I've utterly lost interest in assisting you
[20:14] <madLyfe> lel
[20:14] <transhuman> I want to say it was a 340 but I forget
[20:14] <arunpyasi> reisio, server, hosting, LNMP
[20:15] <reisio> transhuman: not asking what hardware, only what driver
[20:15] <reisio> arunpyasi: any more context?
[20:16] <transhuman> I dont remember what driver it was, I think it was the nvidia 340 driver but I could be wrong , cant remember that far back first time rebooting since installing it last week, walked away from it
[20:16] <transhuman> its an 8600GT, I think it was the 340 driver
[20:16] <reisio> transhuman: try nouveau, which is probably what Ubuntu would actually recommend, if I had to guess
[20:17] <transhuman> crap I was hoping it might accelerate the kids games some
[20:18] <reisio> nouveou can accelerate in some situations now, IIRC
[20:18] <reisio> nouveau*
[20:18] <reisio> transhuman: if you want the ideal proprietary driver, get the model name/number
[20:18] <transhuman> ok thanks
[20:18] <adrian_1908> I would think so too, just maybe not to the same performance level as the proprietary driver.
[20:21] <ducasse> arunpyasi: what about it - is there a support question connected to this?
[20:32] <ghostnik11> ducasse, hey remember when i said i was having problems with the battery charging well it was the ac brick b/c the new one came with 3.5 so it pushes energy faster and now its finally charging while in use
[20:34] <ducasse> ghostnik11: one problem less, that's good
[20:37] <ghostnik11> ducasse, lol, :) i probably still wont bring it to school and will go with finding a vanilla android custom rom thats light for my mom's galaxy note 10.1 which i rooted a few hours ago but this would be a great machine to use b/c linux gives it versatility but i am glad it will still be of use once i am back on break
[20:47] <RusAlex> hi ubuntu wizards, need your wisdom
[20:47] <RusAlex> I've just removed /etc/nginx folder from my server. and then no any package seems to install it
[20:48] <RusAlex> im trying `apt-get install nginx-full` and it fails during installation, because I have no config. I thought it's part of some nginx package. but seems on ubuntu it is not
[20:50] <ducasse> RusAlex: nginx-common, it seems - do 'apt install --reinstall ...'
[20:50] <reisio> RusAlex: https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+reinstall+etc+config+files
[20:59] <ghost-287> hello, i installed flash player using this command: apt install flashplugin-installer
[20:59] <ghost-287> but it didnt work with chromium browser
[21:03] <rantic> ghost-287: Chromuium uses pepper flash
[21:03] <rantic> ghost-287: You should install a package called adobe-flashplugin - should work in firefox and chrome
[21:04] <reisio> ghost-287: that is: chromium comes with its own flash
[21:05] <reisio> or at least chrome does, I just assume chromium does also
[21:06] <ghost-287> so i have to add a new source , because adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[21:06] <rantic> ghost-287: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash
[21:07] <oerheks> flash is dead \0/
[21:07] <oerheks> html5 is da bomb
[21:07] <rantic> yeah and so is ipv4
[21:07] <rantic> I've heard that a few times
[21:08] <ghost-287> but there are always things that work with it (flash)
[21:13] <TuxFuk> is there a way to download the normal gnome desktop and not the ubuntu-gnome desktop?
[21:14] <rantic> mhm
[21:15] <ducasse> TuxFuk: which release?
[21:15] <TuxFuk> ducasse: ubuntu 17.04
[21:15] <rantic> TuxFuk: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3
[21:16] <rantic> TuxFuk: There is a gnome3 PPA for 17.04
[21:16] <ducasse> !ppa | TuxFuk
[21:30] <TuxFuk> thanks!
[21:46] <arunpyasi> My server stucks at Unpacking linux-headers-4.4.0-93 (4.4.0-93.116) over (4.4.0-93.116) ...
[21:46] <arunpyasi> what may be the issue ?7
[21:47] <oerheks> arunpyasi, maybe nothing, unpacking can take some time..
[21:48] <silvian> arunpyasi: how long has it been going for?
[21:48] <arunpyasi> oerheks, hmm ok, takes 20 minutes ?
[21:48] <silvian> Does it indicate an ETA?
[21:48] <arunpyasi> no
[21:48] <silvian> hmm
[21:48] <arunpyasi> it just stucks
[21:48] <silvian> it *SHOULD* not take 20 minutes
[21:48] <arunpyasi> silvian, weird.
[21:49] <silvian> ok what contingencies do you have in place?
[21:49] <arunpyasi> silvian, I am needing to install apache but when I do apt -f install it starts unpacking and stucks
[21:49] <nacc> arunpyasi: so your pkg manager is already broken? (needing to use -f)?
[21:49] <nacc> arunpyasi: that's where you should start, not with the symptom
[21:49] <arunpyasi> nacc, yeah, so how do I fix it
[21:49] <arunpyasi> ?
[21:50] <silvian> arunpyasi: lets say it is stuck... does your ubuntu server have a backup kernel at boot in the grub menu to recover?
[21:50] <nacc> silvian: the above is just for headers, not the kernel itself
[21:50] <arunpyasi> silvian, not sure... its a VPS
[21:50] <nacc> arunpyasi: can you see in `top` or another session if apt is running?
[21:51] <arunpyasi> nacc, naa, I rebooted twice already :P
[21:51] <silvian> ah ok you need to clean up your apt
[21:51] <arunpyasi> apt does lock itself right !
[21:51] <nacc> arunpyasi: you rebooted after what?
[21:51] <arunpyasi> silvian, I did apt clean
[21:51] <silvian> also apt autoremove ?
[21:51] <nacc> arunpyasi: you mean, you got a stuck apt and chose to reboot?
[21:52] <arunpyasi> nacc, yes
[21:52] <nacc> arunpyasi: that's not really a good choice
[21:52] <silvian> arunpyasi: ok silly question but have we checked disk space for your partitions? especially root partition?
[21:52] <nacc> arunpyasi: can easily leave you in an unbootable state
[21:52] <arunpyasi> silvian, 9% left
[21:52] <arunpyasi> sorry
[21:53] <arunpyasi> used
[21:53] <silvian> well nacc that's why you have the other kernel to fall back on
[21:53] <oerheks> vps ..
[21:53] <nacc> silvian: i'm not sure what you're talking about
[21:53] <nacc> silvian: this has nothing to do with the kernel image itself, as far as we've been told.
[21:53] <arunpyasi> seems autoremove is working.. :P
[21:54] <silvian> have you by any chance installed any PPAs?
[21:54] <nacc> silvian: and even if it did, my point was rebooting when apt is working can leave things like your bootloader in a weird state, or any number of other rather important packages
[21:54] <iffraff> Hi, I'm in dependency hell, I have a docker container and I'm trying to run a package called pngcrush, which has a dependency on libpng12 but that package doesn't exist.  my research says that libpng12 doesn't exist on stretch. but it works locally.  can anyne help me with this?
[21:54] <silvian> i know they caused hassle for me but only during apt update usially
[21:55] <silvian> nacc: oh yeah not a good idea to reboot while apt is working i agree with you on that. but it is recoverable say if power cuts out in the middle of it
[21:55] <silvian> arunpyasi: so autoremove fixed it? lol
[21:56] <arunpyasi> silvian, it uninstalled old kernel
[21:56] <arunpyasi> but this new one is still stuck
[21:56] <arunpyasi> I am thinking to wait an hour now
[21:56] <arunpyasi> lets see.
[21:57] <nacc> iffraff: stretch is not an ubuntu release
[21:57] <iffraff> true, but ubuntu is based on stretch
[21:58] <brainwash> ubuntu 16.04 has libpng12
[21:58] <nacc> iffraff: so?
[21:58] <tgm4883> iffraff: I think you're looking for debian IRC channel
[21:58] <nacc> iffraff: if you are using a debian container, ask for help in #debian
[21:58] <ajelrot> hi
[21:58] <ajelrot> which is the latest ppa for flightgear game
[21:58] <ajelrot> the latest
[21:58] <nacc> !ppa | ajelrot
[21:58] <nacc> ajelrot: search the above link
[21:59] <tgm4883> iffraff: #debian
[21:59] <nacc> arunpyasi: it doesn't take an hour to install a single package
[21:59] <tgm4883> nacc: unless you're on Gentoo ;)
[21:59] <nacc> tgm4883: heh
[21:59] <ajelrot> I did but still don't know which is teh lateset
[21:59] <ajelrot> latest
[21:59] <nacc> ajelrot: neither do we
[21:59] <iffraff> it's the node container I thought it was running ubuntu, but I guess it's running the debian
[22:00] <nacc> ajelrot: PPAs are not supported here, you need to search if you want to use them
[22:00] <ajelrot> how do I know it's versoin then
[22:00] <ajelrot> yes, but how to know their versions
[22:00] <nacc> ajelrot: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[22:00] <tgm4883> ajelrot: whichever PPA has 2017.2.1
[22:00] <nacc> ajelrot: or look on the page of the ppa?
[22:00] <ajelrot> nah , the ppa is not accepted
[22:02] <ajelrot> https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/flightgear-edge/+build/13145691
[22:02] <arunpyasi> nacc, so what shall I do ahead ?
[22:02] <ajelrot> it has no cmds to run
[22:03] <arunpyasi> arunpyasi, shall I wait or what ?
[22:03] <tgm4883> ajelrot: that's because thats a build page, not the PPA page
[22:03] <tgm4883> ajelrot: you're looking for https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/flightgear
[22:04] <nacc> ajelrot: and as that page says, contact the owner to get help
[22:04] <tgm4883> ajelrot: or read the flightgear download page, which links you right to the PPA you should use...
[22:04] <tgm4883> ajelrot: http://www.flightgear.org/download/main-program/
[22:06] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/flightgear-edge
[22:06] <nacc> arunpyasi: you should be able to interrupt apt, if you want. it's odd that it says it's extracting the same version over itself
[22:06] <oerheks> = latest, but might have bugs
[22:09] <arunpyasi> nacc, yes, thats what I was thinking too
[22:09] <arunpyasi> how do I fix this now ?
[22:10] <nacc> arunpyasi: kill apt, remove the package and add it again?
[22:12] <ajelrot> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/saiarcot895/flightgear/ubuntu xenial main
[22:12] <ajelrot> it says deb commad not found?
[22:13] <ajelrot> how could thaat happen
[22:13] <tgm4883> ajelrot: what are you doing...
[22:13] <ajelrot> tgm4883: installing tht ppa
[22:13] <nacc> ajelrot: that's not a command.
[22:13] <tgm4883> ajelrot: how did you install it
[22:14] <tgm4883> ajelrot: if you read the page that was linked, it gives you the command to install the PPA
[22:14] <arunpyasi> nacc, : error processing package linux-headers-4.4.0-93 (--purge):
[22:14] <arunpyasi>  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should
[22:14] <arunpyasi>  reinstall it before attempting a removal
[22:14] <arunpyasi> this is what I get
[22:14] <ajelrot> no deb is invalid
[22:15] <ajelrot> https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/flightgear
[22:15] <ajelrot> I am on xenial
[22:15] <tgm4883> ajelrot: this is one of those "lead a horse to water" situations
[22:15] <tgm4883> ajelrot: nowhere does it say to use any sort of deb command
[22:16] <ajelrot> ok after add-apt-repository and apt update; will apt install flightgear go to the usual repos or the ppa
[22:16] <ajelrot> it's surprsiing if it would go to the ppa
[22:16] <ajelrot> after adding the ppa and udating; how to install it
[22:16] <tgm4883> ajelrot: why would that be surprising?
[22:17] <tgm4883> 'apt install flightgear'
[22:17] <ajelrot> because flightgear is also another package so  ubuntu would get confused whether to install the package or the ppa
[22:17] <tgm4883> ajelrot: no it wouldn't
[22:17] <tgm4883> ajelrot: it would install whatever version is the latest
[22:18] <tgm4883> ajelrot: in the event of a tie, it would use the repo with the higher priority
[22:20] <Richard_Cavell> Hi. I'm trying to understand the output of df -h on my machine.  I have a 1 tb internal hard disk and Ubuntu is the only operating system on it. Why doesn't line 14 add up?  https://ideone.com/41BvrR
[22:20] <ajelrot> apt-cache policy flightgear too returns a latest version; although earlier it was old; which one do you see; does apt-cache policy show the repo package or he ppa
[22:21] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: what is /dev/sda1 ?
[22:21] <Richard_Cavell> tgm4883: I don't know.  How do I find out?
[22:22] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: what's the output of 'fdisk -l'
[22:22] <Richard_Cavell> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied
[22:22] <tgm4883> ajelrot: If yours is showing the latest, then good. Install it. I'm not going to bother running commands to see the output, I already know I'm right
[22:22] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: sudo
[22:23] <ajelrot> some percentage 3% or so is the space between the file system and the partition; so they are not supposed to add up Richard_Cavell
[22:24] <Richard_Cavell> https://ideone.com/41BvrR I have added it tgm4883
[22:24] <ajelrot> did you understand what i said? Richard_Cavell
[22:25] <Richard_Cavell> ajelrot: It still doesn't add up.  But if you guys think everything's in order, then I don't need to worry
[22:26] <ajelrot> Richard_Cavell: what do you want to add up, and to what
[22:26] <ajelrot> swap will slow you down; it's useless
[22:27] <Richard_Cavell> Well... I don't think I ever use all my RAM
[22:27] <ajelrot> then why enable swap
[22:27] <Richard_Cavell> I do a lot of things but nothing that requires a lot of RAM or hard disk
[22:27] <Richard_Cavell> How do I turn off swap in a way that is riskless
[22:28] <Radkos> hi guys :)
[22:28] <ajelrot> riskless hah it is riskless; google it ; lots of advice is there
[22:28] <ajelrot> askubuntu already has pages
[22:28] <tgm4883> ajelrot: maybe you should focus on installing your flight sim
[22:28] <ajelrot> tgm4883: I did.
[22:29] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: it's fine, it's likely reserved space. You could check by doing 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda2'
[22:30] <Richard_Cavell> Reserved block count:     12170393
[22:30] <Richard_Cavell>  << Is in the output
[22:30] <Radkos> I'm here to ask you something... my smb connection between two laptops with ubuntu 14.04 and 10.04 has connection drops. and I've checked that on my 14.04 - smblient -L <IP_ADDRESS> returns... Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Windows 6.1] Server=[Samba 4.3.11-Ubuntu]        #### shouldn't it be OS=[Unix]?
[22:31] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: what about Block Size
[22:32] <Richard_Cavell> Block size:               4096
[22:32] <ajelrot> Richard_Cavell: how new are you to Linux ecosystem?
[22:34] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: oh wait, are you wondering why 'df' doesn't match 'df -h'
[22:34] <Richard_Cavell> ajelrot: new
[22:35] <Richard_Cavell> tgm4883: No, I'm wondering why I bought  a 1-tb hard disk and I'm using 18 gigs and now I have 850 gigs left
[22:35] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: ah, well the answer to that is marketing
[22:35] <Richard_Cavell> It's a base-10 thing?
[22:36] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: You bought a 931.5 GiB hard drive
[22:36] <Valen> gigabyte vs gibibyte
[22:36] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: it's a GB vs GiB thing. Where one is 1000 while the other is 1024
[22:37] <Valen> the world outside hdd manufacturers use 1024 bytes per kilobyte, hdd manufacturers use 1000
[22:37] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: so to answer your question, it's perfectly normal, although irritating
[22:38] <Richard_Cavell> Okay.
[22:38] <Richard_Cavell> And the fact that 850 + 18 = 931
[22:38] <Richard_Cavell> ?
[22:38] <tgm4883> No, that's probably the reserve
[22:38] <tgm4883> one sec
[22:39] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: yep, that's the reserve
[22:39] <tgm4883> Richard_Cavell: by default, 5% is reserved for root only use. That way, in the event your hard drive fills, root running processes won't die
[22:39] <Valen> you can also have things were small files occupy more space than their size
[22:40] <Valen> though it depends on how you are asking as to if you see that
[22:40] <tgm4883> ^ too, but in this instance it's mostly the reserve
[22:40] <tgm4883> You can do math on the block size and number of reserved blocks
[22:41] <Richard_Cavell> ok thanks that reassures me that nothing is wrong
[22:42] <tgm4883> [Block Size] * [Reserved Blocks] = [Reserved Bytes]
[22:52] <Radkos> hi someone having a clue about my question?
[22:52] <Radkos> shouldn't smbclient -L 192.x.x.x
[22:53] <Radkos> output give me OS=[Unix]; than Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Windows 6.1] Server=[Samba 4.3.11-Ubuntu] - that it's showing me now?
[22:53] <Radkos> why is my samba server identified as Windows 6.1?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Radkos: Be aware there is NO help for 10,04 .. the software repo no longer exists .
[22:54] <Radkos> no forget the 10.04, I'm on 14.04
[22:54] <Radkos> and it says OS=[Windows 6.1] everyone else has OS=[Unix] why I have Windows 6.1
[22:54] <ajelrot> for powermanager so tht it consumes very little watts ther was a tool
[22:55] <ajelrot> yeah powertop is cool
[22:56] <Radkos> Bahing-om: I just mentioned my connection, I know the problem is in that smb connection from the 14.04's laptop side...
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Radkos: IMO if copying files between 2 'buntu's then samba is not the best tool ( Windows ) :
[22:57] <Radkos> if you know how to check where the smb OS identifier is located...
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Radkos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[22:58] <Radkos> yes it's not but I want to use the active directory feature as samba has
[22:58] <kenrin> Samba started using Windows identifier after 4.2
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Radkos: Sorry, then as I have no recent Windows/samba experience . Await others here to assist .
[22:59] <Radkos> moreover that way the laptop is on the go to share with every newly connected device in my network...
[23:00] <Radkos> kenrin: is it changeable or it's for unix-windows connection purposes? does it affect something?
[23:01] <kenrin> Just a cosmetic change, shouldn't affect anything
[23:01] <tgm4883> Radkos: I'd imagine that affects nothing, in the very least, it shouldn't cause connection drops
[23:02] <Radkos> tgm4883: I supposed so, had to ask
[23:02] <Radkos> I might have to check my router configuration...
[23:02] <kenrin> Just good to know if you see one that says Unix it is an outdated samba version
[23:02] <Radkos> as it's not a actual router, but an ONT device - which  %$!@$
[23:04] <Radkos> kenrin: I suspect it's built-in as a string into the source code
[23:04] <kenrin> yep
[23:04] <kenrin> fstr_sprintf(native_os, "Windows %d.%d"
[23:45] <krobzaur> Alright people I got a problem with an Xubuntu 16.04 installation. Every time I
[23:45] <krobzaur> reboot it NetworkManager creates a new eth0 connection that is disabled for
[23:45] <krobzaur> some reason. It prevents my configured network connections from automatically
[23:45] <krobzaur> connecting on reboot, which makes remote updates impossible. Any thoughts? y
[23:46] <krobzaur> Even if a connection named eth0 already exists, it will make a new one. Every time.
[23:46] <krobzaur> ven if a connection named eth0 already exists, it will make a new one. Every time.
[23:48] <Bashing-om> krobzaur: ' ip a ' says what for the NIC identification ?
[23:51] <krobzaur> Bashing-om: eth0
[23:54] <Bashing-om> krobzaur: Do not know then as I had expected a systemd nomenclature : Mine : " enp1s9 " .
[23:59] <demophobia> What is the number shown in terminal after a command like 'firefox &' and how do I use it?