[15:23] <savid> How do you move panels to other monitors in 9.04?  I can't seem to move my panels at all
[15:23] <usr13> jmworx__: Or just remove offending packages.
[15:24] <savid> oh nm,  it's alt+click
[15:25] <racecar56> every time i login to my comp, it dosen't start gdm and i have to do 'sudo gdm' in a tty each time... my /etc/X11/default-display-manager reads '/usr/sbin/gdm'
[15:25] <Codemaster> hey guys, i am having a horrible issue: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: 35: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")
[15:25] <jmworx__> usr13: I did "apt-get -f install" and it stopped complaining, but I still can't dist-upgrade
[15:25] <tyler_d> racecar56: permissions on that file are? and owned by?
[15:26] <usr13> racecar56: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:26] <usr13> jmworx__: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[15:26] <Pici> usr13: Please stop suggesting that.
[15:27] <Pici> jmworx__: Do not use do-release-upgrade -d
[15:27] <racecar56> tyler_d, /etc/X11/default-display-manager? ls says 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14 2009-05-04 02:11 /etc/X11/default-display-manager\
[15:27] <jmworx__> usr13, Pici: Can you first agree together?
[15:27] <Pici> jmworx__: sudo do-release-upgrade is fine.  Don't use the -d switch
[15:27] <usr13> Pici: Please advise...
[15:27] <Codemaster> hey guys, i am having a horrible issue: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: 35: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")
[15:27] <gcbzero> [15:27] <Rui_> join #fedora-cn
[15:27] <jmworx__> "No new release found"
[15:28] <Codemaster> since no one is bothering to help, i'll just continue to ask
[15:28] <Denkzettel> can anyone help me with my sound driver?
[15:28] <jmworx__> So what now?
[15:28] <Pici> usr13: The -d argument will tell it to upgrade to the latest development release.  Karmic is the latest development release.
[15:28] <usr13> jmworx__: Download alternate DVD and use that.
[15:28] <Denkzettel> it appers, that i dont have sound at all
[15:28] <Denkzettel> appears*
[15:28] <jmworx__> Damn, I thought not screwing up dependencies was a solved problem for a long time now
[15:28] <usr13> Pici: Oh I see.  So just drop the -d  ?
[15:28] <Pici> usr13: indeed.
[15:29] <usr13> jmworx__: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:29] <jmworx__> usr13: "No new release found"
[15:29] <Codemaster> seems i fixed my issue myself -_-
[15:29] <Codemaster> i fixed it by reinstalling debconf from the repositories
[15:29] <exiton> i use the linux driver for my rtl8185 wifi card but it's not working. what can i do?
[15:30] <jmworx__> I mean, I managed to upgrade to Januty. It's just that there's now updates and I have no way to install them
[15:30] <themad> has anyone used graphic intel 945gme on ubuntu? i'm particularly interested in 3d. on glxgears i've got less than 150 fps, and on i.e. halflife via wine 1 frame per 20-30 seconds!
[15:30] <usr13> jmworx__: lsb_release -a
[15:30] <Denkzettel> i tried to search for hardware drivers in system > admin > hardware drivers, but only my graph card is recognized
[15:30] <Mion> exiton: the .29 kernel have some improvements when it comes to wifi support
[15:30] <Pici> jmworx__: What error do you get when you try to upgrade?
[15:30] <jmworx__> themad: Apparently, Jaunty includes an "upgrade" to the intel video driver that totally trashes 3D performance at least on my 945-based laptop
[15:31] <Denkzettel> does ubuntu have sound issues?
[15:31] <themad> jmworx__: is this anything i can do in this case?
[15:31] <armence> Is there a way for me to restart my sound card?
[15:31] <exiton> Mion: isn't there anything i can do right now? it was working with ndiswrapper but not anymore since the upgrade to 9.04
[15:31] <usr13> jmworx__: go back to generic OS driver
[15:31] <themad> Denkzettel: i had problem with microphone, but installing alsa 1.0.19 solved them
[15:32] <Mion> you can always upgrade the kernel
[15:32] <jmworx__> http://pastebin.com/m74ccbabe
[15:32] <racecar56> i have 1.0.18 :/
[15:32] <jmworx__> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m74ccbabe
[15:32] <jordan> quit
[15:32] <jmworx__> usr13: What do you mean by "generic OS driver" and how do I do that?
[15:32] <themad> racecar56: try installing 1.0.19 from sources from alsa-project.org
[15:33] <jmworx__> themad: Apparently, someone has packaged the older version of the driver and there's instructions on how to downgrade, but I have not tried
[15:33] <Jupp> why don't all my services appear under System->Services? For example, I want to disable Tor o Mediatomb, but they don't appear on the list
[15:33] <themad> jmworx__: you dont have to downgrade it, do you?
[15:33] <usr13> jmworx__: uninstall anjuta
[15:34] <racecar56> tyler_d, did you get my other message?
[15:34] <jmworx__> themad: for now, I just live with the horrible 3D performance. Haven't had time to fix it. Link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[15:34] <Roland123> a strange thing happened a few days ago: the battery on my laptop ran out.. and the next time i started it, it started behaving strangely in the beginning everything is ok but after some time: pidgin closes automatically after successfully logging in, firefox can't sign in to ebay/gmail/others or search through the little toolbar, kmess complains about dcop... service which is not running.   But when switching to guest account everything is normal.
[15:34] <Roland123> how to fix my normal user account?
[15:34] <tyler_d> racecar56: please resend....
[15:34] <Denkzettel> themad: i think my sound card is not being recognised
[15:34] <tyler_d> racecar56: sorry
[15:34] <racecar56> tyler_d, /etc/X11/default-display-manager? ls says 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14 2009-05-04 02:11 /etc/X11/default-display-manager\
[15:34] <tyler_d> racecar56: is anything pertinent showing in /var/log?
[15:35] <themad> jmworx__: you think that it could fix it?
[15:35] <racecar56> can someone give me their m25 of /bin/cat?
[15:35] <racecar56> *md5
[15:35] <Pici> jmworx__: Looks like a bug for that was already logged https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anjuta/+bug/371245 I'd try uninstalling it before you try to upgrade.
[15:35] <jmworx__> themad: I have no idea. I'm always suspicious of solutions like that, but it could work.
[15:35] <tyler_d> racecar56: and have you done dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:35] <racecar56> tyler_d, yes
[15:36] <themad> jmworx__: ok, i'll try it in few minutes, and ill tell you if something new happens
[15:36] <tyler_d> racecar56: from term do `which gdm` then check the owner and execution permisions on that
[15:36] <usr13> Jupp: Some server packages can run as stand alone applications and that may be the case with Mediatom.
[15:36] <teapot> Hey guys. I need a little help. PulseAudio recognises me speaking into the mic, but I have no idea how to choose it in Sound Recorder.
[15:36] <racecar56> tyler_d, /usr/sbin/gdm
[15:37] <teapot> I know it recognises me speaking because I downloaded padevchooser.
[15:37] <armence> Is there no one here who can tell me how to restart my sound card?
[15:37] <racecar56> armenb, i know how
[15:37] <Cige> hey, I am having a problem with firefox.  It is constantly telling me it has been updated and must be restarted, but I have restarted it dozens of times and it still shows the notification.
[15:37] <racecar56> armenb, 'sudo reboot'
[15:37] <usr13> !sound |  armence
[15:38] <racecar56> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e is my md5sum for /bin/cat, anyone else have the same or what?
[15:38] <skapism> Cige: close it and wait a few seconds. then check if firefox is stilling running
[15:38] <armence> racecar56: How?
[15:38] <racecar56> Cige, sudo killall firefox
[15:38] <racecar56> armenb, sudo reboot
[15:38] <skapism> Cige: pidof firefox
[15:38] <Cige> ok, I'll try that
[15:38] <skapism> still*
[15:39] <racecar56> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e is my md5sum for /bin/cat, anyone else have the same or what?
[15:39] <teapot> Hey guys. Any chance anyone can help me with recording?
[15:39] <skapism> racecar56: I get a3344d05cdb0bbaa579bc445ad884b50
[15:39] <mattgirv> teapot: What sort of recording?
[15:39] <skapism> racecar56: isn't it in baseutils? you might be running a different version
[15:40] <Cige> sudo killall firefox returns "firefox: no process killed"
[15:40] <stuckey> What do I need to isntall to be able to see flash vidoes embeded in websites? (using 9.04)
[15:40] <lazermouse> hey, i'm getting spam emails from cannonical
[15:40] <skapism> Cige: what does 'pidof firefox' return?
[15:40] <Cige> and I still get the message
[15:40] <mattgirv> stuckey: flashplugin-nonfree
[15:40] <Cige> pidof firefox returns nothing
[15:40] <supersasho> ok all of a sudden the sound doesnt work, any ideas? i restarted X i restarted alsa and no change at all and yes i'm sure it's not muted :)
[15:40] <racecar56> skapism, im on 9.04
[15:40] <skapism> stuckey: I believe installing in the browser is supported
[15:40] <mattgirv> stuckey: But make sure you havent got Gnash/SWFDEC installed as well.
[15:40] <stuckey> mattgirv: don't want to use adobe... want open-source
[15:41] <skapism> racecar56: I'm not 9.04 beta 5, I believe
[15:41] <teapot> mattgirv: I'm trying to record audio. PulseAudio Volume Control recognises me speaking into the mic, but I can't choose it in Sound Recorder.
[15:41] <skapism> racecar56-ubuntu: the package might have changed since then
[15:41] <mattgirv> stuckey: Well use SWFDEC then, but they conflict with each other so dont have more than one installed
[15:41] <lazermouse> where should i talk about spam emails from cannonical?
[15:41] <mattgirv> stuckey: Also SWFDEC/Gnash are both still buggy compared to flashplugin-nonfree... but thats your calll
[15:41] <racecar56> skapism, O_o im on 9.04 final
[15:41] <Jupp> Cige, I would completely uninstall firefox and install it again
[15:41] <lazermouse> because im getting loads
[15:41] <mattgirv> teapot: You might want to get a more flexible app for recording in all honesty, check out Audacity.
[15:41] <Cige> ok, I'd have to use synaptic then, right?
[15:42] <Cige> the regular one wouldn't let me uninstall
[15:42] <Jupp> cige, or "sudo apt-get remove firefox"
[15:42] <Cige> ok
[15:42] <mattgirv> teapot: But in Sound Recorder make sure your inputs point to whatever its being piped through (ie, PulseAudio/ALSA)
[15:42] <teapot> teapot: It's just so that I can get the mic working. If I can get that going, I might get an Ekiga account.
[15:42] <skapism> racecar56: lemma look, just a sec
[15:42] <racecar56> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e is my md5sum for /bin/cat, anyone else have the same or what? [15:42] <teapot> mattgirv*
[15:42] <racecar56> skapism, k
[15:42] <Jupp> cige, what do you mean "the regular one"?
[15:43] <LjL> racecar56: i cannot tell you because i'm running Hardy, but i might suggest you install the "debsums" package to check that your files' checksums are correct
[15:43] <sequethin> I enabled visual effects and i have cool features like "real" transparency but my text looks like a mess :(
[15:43] <Cige> the add/remove applications menu
[15:43] <teapot> mattgirv: It says "Record from input" and "Capture" is the only option... Unhelpful.
[15:43] <themad> jmworx__: ping?
[15:43] <racecar56> LjL, thx, anyway you doin hardy still? O_o (well it is lts)
[15:43] <jmworx__> Apparently, the whole thing is documented at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[15:43] <Cige> i'm going to reinstall firefox now
[15:43] <jmworx__> themad: pong
[15:43] <Jupp> cige, do "sudo apt-get remove firefox" and then "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[15:43] <LjL> racecar56: i like kde 3.5
[15:43] <skapism> racecar56: it's in coreutils, apparently
[15:43] <unr3a1> !clone
[15:44] <racecar56> LjL, ahhh... same here, although nowadays im using gnome
[15:44] <sdfasd> hi
[15:44] <themad> jmworx__: i've got worse performance with downgreaded drivers, 50fps less.
[15:44] <racecar56> LjL, just to get away from kde4
[15:44] <themad> from 150 to 100
[15:44] <jmworx__> Anyone knows if someone's working on a real update to fix the video performance problem?
[15:44] <sdfasd> any recommandation how to understand the hard drive of ubuntu
[15:44] <Denkzettel> what should i do to get sound on my ubuntu??
[15:44] <jmworx__> themad: Did you check it's using the "new" driver?
[15:44] <jmworx__> themad: try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[15:44] <jmworx__> (haven't tested myself)
[15:44] <demon_> can any body help me with grub error 17
[15:44] <mattgirv> teapot: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html Have a look through this, and install any missing packages
[15:44] <GodHand> hi
[15:45] <racecar56> demon_, www.lmgtfy.com
[15:45] <GodHand> how do i become root?
[15:45] <Denkzettel> wont i get any help here?
[15:45] <GodHand> (complete newbie here)
[15:45] <skapism> themad: jaunty has just fallen between the chairs. either wait for the new graphics infrastructure to stabilise, or revert to intrepid
[15:45] <Cige> that didn't work... the command line showed that it was uninstalling, but the add/remove menu showed it never was uninstalled, and the error is still there
[15:45] <demon_> GodHand, su
[15:45] <Denkzettel> skapism: mb you'll help me please?
[15:45] <Cige> looks like sudo apt-get remove firefox didn't work
[15:45] <demon_> haha racecar56
[15:45] <sdfasd> :-*
[15:45] <Denkzettel> skapism: i dont have any sound on my laptop apparently
[15:45] <skapism> Denkzettel: what's the problem?
[15:45] <racecar56> demon_, :>
[15:45] <themad> skapism: you think, that on interprid i would have much better performance?
[15:46] <demon_> racecar56, if you know tell me
[15:46] <skapism> themad: yes, the intel driver in intrepid is stable and fast
[15:46] <wad> I folks. I'm running ubuntu on my laptop that has 4GB of RAM, but I think the OS is only seeing 3GB. What's a good way to check this?
[15:46] <skapism> themad: only jaunty has those regressions because of gem/kms
[15:46] <Denkzettel> skapism: i don't even know whether hardware is not recognized or it's something else
[15:46] <unr3a1> hey all
[15:46] <racecar56> demon_, i don't really know grub error codes well
[15:46] <skapism> themad: basically, the driver in jaunty is too new for the kernel, so far as I understand it
[15:46] <petrolman> wad, cat /proc/meminfo?
[15:46] <Jupp> Cige, what was the error?
[15:47] <skapism> themad: not an intel user myself though, so meh
[15:47] <themad> i understand.
[15:47] <Cige> when I try to remove firefox, I get an error, "cannot remove 'firefox 3.0 branding'"
[15:47] <themad> i see ;)
[15:47] <wad> petrolman, Ah, thanks! MemTotal:      3106436 kB
[15:47] <Cige> at least, when I go through the add/remove menu
[15:47] <Denkzettel> is there a way to migrate all my Firefox bookmarks, passwords and add-ons from MS Windows  to ubuntu?
[15:47] <themad> ill try what jmworx__ gave me, and than i'll check it on interprid UNR live ;)
[15:47] <Cige> it says some applications are dependent, could that be my addons?
[15:47] <teapot> mattgirv: Nevermind. :) In Preferences > Sound I had to choose PulseAudio.
[15:47] <themad> but let's see:
[15:47] <remoteCTRL1> can gedit actually also shrink ntfs partitions?
[15:48] <themad> Intrepid: glxgears = ~1000fps, ppracer = ~23fps.
[15:48] <teapot> mattgirv: Thanks very much for your help.
[15:48] <themad> Jaunty (default configuration): glxgears = ~300fps, ppracer = ~19fps
[15:48] <wad> Okay then, ubuntu is only seeing 3 GB of RAM, when I've got 4 in the machine. What's wrong?
[15:48] <skapism> themad: intel have switched over to the new graphics stack and are slowly cleaning up all stuff. I expect the regressions to be completely solved by karmic (which will get .30 or .31)
[15:48] <darktux> omfg how many users!!!!
[15:48] <unr3a1> I am having issues installing my previous installed applications using the file my_applications
[15:48] <Jupp> Cige, try removing from synaptip
[15:48] <Tophu> oooo ooo ok new question I have a logitech MX610 mouse with like 10 mappable buttons (without counting the left and right click)   how can I map map these buttons
[15:48] <nztal> wad, i believe you are correct, in that it only seeing roughly about 3GB.  you'd need to enable PAE and i'm not sure what packages to apt-get to enable that in the desktop version to enable that, maybe someone else might
[15:48] <Cige> ok
[15:48] <remoteCTRL1> errr.... can gparted actually also shrink ntfs partitions?
[15:48] <skapism> all.old*
[15:48] <darktux> yes
[15:48] <baker> i have ubuntu amd64 & upgrade to kubuntu did i have more updates
[15:48] <themad> yeah but i need 3d for yesterday ;)
[15:48] <usr13> teapot: One stick may not be seated well.
[15:48] <Pici> !enter
[15:48] <racecar56> demon_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 might help
[15:48] <unr3a1> every app it is saying something like, "no candidate information found for app..."
[15:48] <mattgirv> teapot: Yeah its a bit of a lengthy process but you'll find its worthwhile in the end when everything works properly together
[15:48] <teapot> usr13: Sorry, I don't understand.
[15:49] <wad> nztal, okay... so I need to do something special to get it to see the memory? That seems wrong somehow....
[15:49] <skapism> teapot: will pay out eventually. intel is still currently the most 'open' company between it, amd and nvidia. and gem rocks :)
[15:49] <Cige> I told synaptic to reinstall firefox, let's see if that works
[15:50] <baker> how i know my system works fine & fully update
[15:50] <unr3a1> does anyone know what I can do?
[15:50] <weboide> Hi, I've got ufw complaying about ownership of /, /usr/share/, and /usr (see http://pastebin.com/m28d559c) what should I do ?
[15:50] <themad> yeah, BTW is there netboox remix of ubuntu 8.10?
[15:50] <wad> Is this just a bug with Ubuntu, or is it just linux in general that can't see more than 3 GB of RAM?
[15:50] <skapism> themad: unofficial, I believe, yes
[15:50] <baker> how i know my system works fine & fully update
[15:50] <Static--> wad: any 32bit system has issues with 3gb+
[15:50] <skapism> themad: jaunty is the first official release so far as I know. btw, did you try easy peasy?
[15:51] <teapot> Thanks guys. See ya
[15:51] <Pici> wad: 32 bit kernels can only see ~3gb of RAM.  You'll need the server kernel (which may not support your hardware) or the 64bit installer.
[15:51] <themad> easy peasy? not yet.. catchy name ;)
[15:51] <natrixnatrix89> hi. Could someone please run pacmd in terminal, look at it, and tell me, if there is a way, how to include pacmd commands in a bash script. (because just a line with for example pacmd set-default-sink xxx works in command line, but doesnt work, if i add such a line in a bash script) There must be a syntax, how to add it in a script...
[15:51] <skapism> themad: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=easypeasy
[15:52] <Cige> synaptic won't let me remove firefox either, it just turns the firefox selection red...
[15:52] <Denkzettel> is there a DC++ software for ubuntu?
[15:52] <orudie> how can i open .raw image files ?
[15:52] <Cige> this is troublesom
[15:52] <unr3a1> this is what I am getting:  http://pastebin.com/m257ea5fa
[15:52] <unr3a1> does anyone know what could cause this?
[15:52] <natrixnatrix89> Denkzettel: yes, there is linuxdc
[15:52] <usr13> orudie: unpack it.
[15:52] <stuckey> mattgirv: what's the package name?
[15:52] <Pici> orudie: rawstudio would be one way.
[15:52] <themad> skapism: based on ubuntu 8.10?
[15:52] <mattgirv> stuckey: What package?
[15:52] <wad> Ah, I see. Hmm. I guess this is one case where Windows XP is superior. It's a 32 bit OS (well, depends on how you count), but it seems to not have a problem with 4 GB. (I dual-boot this box.)
[15:52] <stuckey> mattgirv: SWDEF
[15:52] <Cige> Denkzettel: it should be under add/remove software, search for DC++
[15:53] <mattgirv> !swfdec | stuckey
[15:53] <skapism> themad: yes, I believe
[15:53] <mattgirv> meh
[15:53] <Denkzettel> natrixnatrix89: i cant find it amoung the applications
[15:53] <themad> thanks
[15:53] <mattgirv> !swfdec-mozilla | stuckey
[15:53] <natrixnatrix89> Denkzettel: just search for direct connect in "add remove
[15:53] <usr13> orudie: raw  Oh, that is raw audio...
[15:53] <unr3a1> ?
[15:53] <Denkzettel> Cige: it doent find it
[15:53] <dooner> wad: xp can aonly see 3G of ram.
[15:53] <orudie> raw as in image
[15:53] <mattgirv> stuckey: its swfdec-mozilla anyway
[15:53] <Jupp> Cige, sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall
[15:53] <usr13> orudie: you might need audicity  for that.
[15:53] <Static--> wad: your wrong xp will see the same amount
[15:54] <orudie> i need to be able to view .raw image format
[15:54] <orudie> not audio
[15:54] <orudie> images
[15:54] <orudie> raw images
[15:54] <Cige> Jupp: I did that already, nothing happened
[15:54] <usr13> orudie: file filename.raw
[15:54] <Cige> it was still installed
[15:54] <wad> Seriously? Wow, now I want to reboot and check it out!
[15:54] <wad> Maybe I made a bad assumption.
[15:54] <skapism> wad: XP cannot map 4GB of ram
[15:54] <natrixnatrix89> Denkzettel: maybe you didnt select all available applications (on the top bar)
[15:54] <skapism> wad: unless it's a 64bit, and it'S a major fail
[15:54] <usr13> orudie: It it truly is an image file, try gimp.
[15:54] <skapism> -a
[15:54] <Wolves|Viktor> hi
[15:54] <Pici> !info rawstudio | orudie
[15:55] <Wolves|Viktor> which irc client is best?
[15:55] <BorkisDrizzt> Wolves|Viktor: for me it is irssi
[15:55] <stuckey> is ssh installed by default?
[15:55] <ikonia> Wolves|Viktor: try some - see what you like
[15:55] <ikonia> stuckey: yes, the client is
[15:55] <stuckey> I need to access a friend's computer to install software
[15:55] <Cige> Denkzettle: kind of a stupid question, but do you have the drop down menu set to all available applications?
[15:55] <stuckey> ikonia: what's required on their part so that I can access their machine?
[15:55] <skapism> wad: I believe it stops at around 3.2gib, since it reserves some address space for some wicked stuff
[15:55] <orudie> cant open with gimp
[15:55] <usr13> orudie: what does   file filename.raw   say about it?   (where filename.raw is the actual file name).
[15:55] <tyler_d> stuckey: apt-get install openssh-server
[15:55] <ikonia> stuckey: install the package "openssh-server"
[15:56] <lundh> Hi, I'm thinking about replacing arch with ubuntu, problem is, my computer doesnt have any cd-drive. How do I install the alternative version of 9.04 with a usb-stick?
[15:56] <Jupp> cige, don't know why synaptic is not allowing you to unistall firefox
[15:56] <natrixnatrix89> Could someone please run pacmd in terminal, look at it, and tell me, if there is a way, how to include pacmd commands in a bash script. (because just a line with for example pacmd set-default-sink xxx works in command line, but doesnt work, if i add such a line in a bash script) There must be a syntax, how to add it in a script...
[15:56] <unr3a1> can someone please explain what would cause this:  http://pastebin.com/m257ea5fa
[15:56] <Chaos_AD1> hi anybody knows how to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 NBR?
[15:56] <Cige> Jupp: yeah, it's weird, it says there's an application dependent on it
[15:56] <wad> Wow, you guys are right! WinXP is only using 3 GB also. I feel like a fool now!
[15:56] <tyler_d> lundh: I just did an install from a usb stick... more extensive then you would think.. however just google it and follow the guide
[15:57] <Cige> \_O.o_?
[15:57] <skapism> Chaos_AD1: just get the netbook remix, otherwise you'd be dragging about a lot of bloat
[15:57] <stuckey> ikonia: and then what after they install this package?
[15:57] <tyler_d> lundh: only took me about 15 total to do.... with download I might add :)
[15:57] <ikonia> stuckey: thats it
[15:57] <wad> BWAHAHAHA!!! My linux will beat the Windows boxen yet... now I just need to configure it to use 4GB!
[15:57] <stuckey> then I just need to do "ssh <their ip>"
[15:57] <tyler_d> stuckey: configure the router to forward port 22 to their computer
[15:57] <ikonia> Wolves|Viktor: using a 64bit ubuntu install will be the most straight forward way to utilie 4gb of ram
[15:57] <stuckey> tyler_d: I'm hoping they won't need to do that.
[15:57] <skapism> wad: this has nothing to do with OS being better. it's just a physical limitation
[15:58] <skapism> with which*
[15:58]  * tyler_d crosses his fingers for you stuckey
[15:58] <Cige> I just ran sudo apt-get remove firefox, and then I opened forefox and it started, so i'll assume that it is still installed
[15:58] <stuckey> tyler_d: is it normally required?
[15:58] <ikonia> Wolves|Viktor: sorry - that wasn 't for you
[15:58] <skapism> wad: it just took microsoft, as usual, longer :)
[15:58] <tyler_d> stuckey: yes....
[15:58] <ikonia> wad: using a 64bit ubuntu install will be the most straight forward way to utilie 4gb of ram
[15:58] <tyler_d> stuckey: routers are cheap nowadays... most people have one
[15:58] <rs> help | i uninstalled my xp and installed ubuntu , i connect to internet by ethrnet , while using xp it got connected , now even the lights not glowing in backof the ethernet card
[15:58] <kane77> hi, do you know of any songbook software for ubuntu? Program that is able to import songs with chords and print a songbook?
[15:58] <rs> i use Intel card
[15:58] <voodoo_child> any1 can help? cant find apache or php in Synaptic, already tried the update-apt-xapian-index but didnt help, any other solutions?
[15:58] <rs> am really stuck here
[15:58] <rs> somebody please help
[15:59] <Cige> well, thanks for your help, but I have to get to class, I'll try again later
[15:59] <natrixnatrix89> rs: maybe you have to install the lan drivers
[15:59] <PleXuS> anyone known why there is no power managment anymore when overclocking the cpu on ubuntu?
[15:59] <natrixnatrix89> rs: click on the network icon on the top right.
[15:59] <skapism> PleXuS: i think it's one of the tradeoffs of overclocking the cpu
[15:59] <natrixnatrix89> rs: does it say that there is "wired network"
[15:59] <Nokio> Hi all, I just setted up a serial console via ttyS0 and if i do a ps axf |grep tty i see the new getty on ttyS0. On the client side i configure minicom to access it through my usb adapter ttyUSB0. But i dont get any login or anything. Thanks in advance if someone can help
[16:00] <wad> ikonia, yeah, I'll have to make that switch next time I reinstall, I guess.
[16:00] <rs> natrixnatrix89: i configured the settigns to dhcp
[16:00] <rs> yeah
[16:00] <Markopotomus> Hi. I've just installed Ubuntu 9.04 however the username and password I set in the installation don't actually seem to work. Is there a way I could reset them without having to install all over again?
[16:00] <tyler_d> whats the keyboard shortcut to view all desktops?
[16:00] <PleXuS> skapism, not really, on my windows box it works perfect :p
[16:00] <lundh> tyler_d: thanks, had a short problem with my wlan but I had forgot about that guide, thanks
[16:00] <wad> skapism, true, but the guys who work here and use Windows have no way around that limitation. As a linux user, I do. So I win!
[16:00] <tyler_d> lundh: np :)
[16:00] <natrixnatrix89> rs: interesting. did you restart the router?
[16:00] <rs> natrixnatrix89: when i click it says manual config
[16:01] <skapism> PleXuS: overclocking screwed the governer up for me :)
[16:01] <tyler_d> Markopotomus: restart the computer, when it says grub blah blah blah... select the recovery option
[16:01] <wad> Reading about PAE, it says it's for supporting more than 4GB. I don't need that, I just need to support 4 GB.
[16:01] <tyler_d> Markopotomus: this will take you into single user mode...
[16:01] <Markopotomus> tyler_d: Ok.
[16:01] <skapism> wad: true. and PAE is just a workaround. it's better to use 64-bit natively
[16:01] <PleXuS> skapism, so bad power managment drivers in kernel :)
[16:01] <Markopotomus> tyler_d: and from there I can reset passwords?
[16:01] <tyler_d> Markopotomus: then do a passwd "yourusername" and enter your password
[16:02] <PleXuS> skapism, because it never screwed up on windows system :)
[16:02] <natrixnatrix89> rs: sorry i don't know about lan much.. installing the right driver solved the problem for me..
[16:02] <skapism> PleXuS: I'm not sure.  Ok, here goes. Cheers for the help :P
[16:02] <PleXuS> skapism, lol
[16:02] <tyler_d> Markopotomus: gl :o
[16:03] <skapism> PleXuS: it's pretty limited too. I'm running a phenom here and I get either 2.2ghz or 1.1ghz. dunno, maybe it's really a cpu limitation
[16:03] <unr3a1> so no one knows?
[16:03] <rs> ok
[16:03] <rs> how di find whether the drivers are installed or not ?
[16:03] <wad> Are there any more differences between the 64 bit Ubuntu and the 32 bit version, other than the ability to use more RAM? Why doesn't everyone just use the 64 bit version all the time, if they are on hardware that supports it?
[16:03] <rs> do*
[16:03] <orudie> unr3a1-> whats the question?
[16:03] <rs> natrixnatrix89: plz tell
[16:04] <tyler_d> rs: have you done from term ifconfig up? or such?
[16:04] <stuckey> What's the easiest way to get my ip address so that someone can ssh into my system?
[16:04] <natrixnatrix89> rs: i think they are installed for you..
[16:04] <PleXuS> skapism, i'm running Q9550 @ 3,05Ghz default clock = 2,88Ghz but it can go to 3,55ghz easy :)
[16:04] <natrixnatrix89> rs: because you can click on that icon and edit settings
[16:04] <tyler_d> stuckey: browse to ipchicken.com
[16:04] <PleXuS> skapism, speedstep noting todo with governer?
[16:04] <skapism> wad: some stuff doesn't work well on 64bit. especially proprietary stuff like skype need the 32bit libraries and that adds extra bloat to the system. also, until a while ago flash and java didn't work / exist for 64bit
[16:04] <skapism> PleXuS: no idea >_>
[16:04] <natrixnatrix89> rs: otherwise it would say "no network devices."
[16:05] <unr3a1> orudie, I reinstalled Ubuntu and backed up my installed packages to a my_packages folder.  I am now trying to reinstall the packages and this is what I get:  http://pastebin.com/m257ea5fa
[16:05] <skapism> wad: also flash (both free and adobe) and java works well, at least for me
[16:05] <BorkisDrizzt> Allright, my problem: I downloaded a game (Katawa Shoujo) that uses an engine written in python. What I downloaded was a folder with all the game files in it, and just doubbelclick the *.sh file to start the game. Want I want to know is 1. How I start it via a terminal, and 2. How I can put a shortcut into Programs>Games
[16:05] <wad> skapism, Ah, okay. So apps that rely on proprietary libraries may broke.
[16:05] <skapism> wad: and if you keep away from proprietary stuff, you need not worry
[16:05] <RalCheesus> ne1 know if there is any way to get  set of logitech Z Cinema speakers to work?
[16:05] <natrixnatrix89> rs: usually restarting the router solves much..
[16:05] <rs> restarting router ?
[16:05] <skapism> wad: yep. since the companies cannot be assed to recompile it for 64bit. go figure :)
[16:05] <rs> why ?
[16:05] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: from term you do gksudo ./game.sh ...(you have to be in the folder)
[16:06] <rs> natrixnatrix89: the ethernet lights itself not glowing dude
[16:06] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: sorry ignore that
[16:06] <Yoda> #ubuntu-dk
[16:06] <wad> skapism, okay, that sounds like good advice. I'll need to check all the proprietary apps I use. Oh, what about drivers?
[16:06] <orudie> unr3a1-> sorry never had to do that, try asking in #ubuntu-server
[16:06] <unr3a1> ty
[16:06] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: just do ./game.sh from the folder
[16:06] <wad> skapism, I can't live without my compiz. Do drivers support 64 bit?
[16:06] <skapism> wad: same deal. free drivers are fine, proprietary stuff might be problematic
[16:06] <wad> skapism, ouch!
[16:06] <skapism> wad: compiz isn't drivers... are you using intel / amd / nvidia?
[16:07] <natrixnatrix89> rs: but maybe try just unplug the power, wait and plug in again :) Works for me sometimes.. :D
[16:07] <wad> Maybe for now I'll just be content with my 3GB.
[16:07] <wad> skapism, Radeon.
[16:07] <bloopletech_> How do I get the Makefile used to compile an aptitude package?
[16:07] <wad> Anyway, I now know more than I did! I'd better get some programming done now. Thanks, guys!
[16:07] <skapism> wad: then I _believe_ catalyst works five with 64bit too. the open source driver too
[16:07] <Pici> bloopletech_: apt-get source packagename   will download the source
[16:07] <skapism> fine*
[16:07] <BorkisDrizzt> tyler_d: thanks, that works. The what about creating a shortcut ?
[16:07] <bloopletech_> Pici: awesome thanks
[16:07] <Hymnosis> recommended hard drive space to run opensuse 10.3? only be running apache and joining the W2k3 domain
[16:08] <Hymnosis> shit wrong room
[16:08] <Hymnosis> sorry
[16:08] <skapism> wad: yeah. they provide a x86_64 version. logical, it's amd
[16:08] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: right click on the menu go 'edit menus' --> games --> new item ---> browse to the .sh --> ok
[16:09] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: may want a name on it as well ;)
[16:09] <Pici> Hymnosis: Please mind your language here.
[16:09] <skapism> wad: that's usually what people refer to as '64bit'. it's a superset of x86
[16:09] <skapism> wad: introduced by amd (therefore amd64)
[16:09] <aspoor> its 2 x86's
[16:09] <aspoor> @ the same time.
[16:09] <lukinfore> hi
[16:09] <aspoor> yo
[16:09] <aspoor> what did eddie find in his present?
[16:10] <lukinfore> any suggestions on soft to recover broken dvd
[16:10] <lukinfore> ??
[16:10] <Pici> !ot | aspoor
[16:10] <lukinfore> at least part of it
[16:10] <skapism> wad: intel went a completely different way and tried a purely 64bit-based architecture. it kind of failed XD
[16:10] <ed_debian> hello all, I was trying to run NAT on an ubuntu server.  I created the rule in iptables and started getting very confused.  Why if all of the policies on all of my tables are defaulted to ACCEPT am I not allowed to ping my clients from my server?
[16:10] <lukinfore> cause even dd says : no media found
[16:10] <aspoor> should I get 9.04 ubuntu.  I thought I did an upgrade while still online without even re-booting the laptop.  Acer.
[16:11] <usr13> ed_debian: Remove the offending rules
[16:11] <aspoor> but no way, not if it doesnt ask you for disks.
[16:11] <ikonia> aspoor: you can't be running the upgrade without rebooting
[16:11] <aspoor> o may i did reboot.
[16:11] <aspoor> sorry
[16:11] <usr13> ed_debian: -D  as opposed to  -A
[16:11] <lukinfore> !recover
[16:11] <natrixnatrix89> aspoor: you must have noticed that the loading screen is different..
[16:11] <usr13> ed_debian: Replace -A with -D
[16:12] <RalCheesus> I have a set of logitech Z cinema speakers ~ they don't use a sound card, plugs into usb port ~ can't find any mention of these and ubuntu working togather
[16:12] <usr13> ed_debian:  or use -F  to flush the chain.
[16:12] <ed_debian> usr13, I cannot work on the machine right now.  Just so you know, but the only rule I have is the NAT rule in the input chain and I have an Accept all to all rule in all other chains
[16:12] <ed_debian> usr13, What rule is stopping ping?
[16:12] <aspoor> Actually I did notice that, wrong question.  Umm does anyone know how to incorporate a file called nul at 0 bytes to a FAT32 cluster?
[16:12] <judget_> I have an INtrepid system ru8nning and just puicked up a "fake raid" SIL 3114 controller
[16:13] <usr13> ed_debian: I don't know.  Did you block port 113?
[16:13] <ed_debian> usr13, no
[16:13] <judget_> I was hoping to create a raid array, not for booting, but for using for High def video editing with cinelerra
[16:13] <racecar56> my /bin/cat is bad
[16:13] <skapism> racecar56: reinstall coreutils?
[16:13] <judget_> so far all i found was posting on how to install to the fake raid
[16:13] <ed_debian> usr13, I will try flushing the entire table but I am confused.  It seems that if iptables is turned on at all outgoing pings to the internal network are blocked
[16:14] <judget_> has anyone else tried this?
[16:14] <ed_debian> usr13, I have this confirmed on two different servers
[16:14] <usr13> ed_debian: Well, I don't know, would have to see the rules you entered.  But is it possible there is some other network problem?
[16:14] <racecar56> yay its good again :>
[16:15] <usr13> ed_debian: You have your rules all on a script, right?  Just flush all, edit the script as needed and try again.
[16:15] <aspoor> ok, so i figured it out.
[16:15] <daniel-roots-> humm duvida
[16:15] <ed_debian> usr13, Well I am trying to set up NFS as well and iptables is blocking that but I don't know why.  LIke I said I set the default policy to ACCEPT on everything.  The rules I have are NAT and ACCEPT everything going everywhere.  I think maybe NAT has something to do with it.
[16:15] <aspoor> what if you have a phenom 2. Ok, bare with me a min, you use 1 CPU to open and 1 CPU to close.  Would that still be an allocation unit?
[16:15] <daniel-roots-> tenho o ubuntu 8.10 como faço para passar para verso nova 9.4?
[16:16] <Pici> !br | daniel-roots-
[16:16] <skapism> aspoor: what does that have to do with ubuntu? XD
[16:16] <aspoor> this was a neat trick in a sense its the same as alt-255
[16:16] <usr13> ed_debian: I don't think so but would have to see the specific rules you're using.
[16:16] <ed_debian> usr13, Thank you for your help BTW.  I realize it is difficult to solve a problem when we can't actually make any progress.  I am trying to get some ideas for when I go back up to that server
[16:16] <aspoor> hold up a bit
[16:16] <BorkisDrizzt> tyler_d: thanks, it works great. Just one more question. When chosing an icon for the shortcut, does it have to be a .svg file?
[16:16] <ed_debian> usr13, Ok thank you
[16:16] <aspoor> memory. o yea
[16:17] <usr13> ed_debian: I'm not really an iptables expert.
[16:17] <Hymnosis> Pici : Im sorry for my language
[16:17] <Pici> aspoor: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.
[16:17] <riwa> Is there a razertool available for ubuntu?
[16:17] <tyler_d> BorkisDrizzt: I'm pretty sure it can be several different image types..... I would say tias(Try It And See)
[16:17] <BorkisDrizzt> will do
[16:17] <ed_debian> usr13, thats ok.  Can you answer this for me?  Is iptables built into the kernel?  Meaning is there an alternative to it?
[16:18] <skapism> ed_debian: yes, iptables is part of the linux kernel
[16:18] <aspoor> k, but wait it gets better..
[16:18] <ed_debian> skapism, So to run a "network server" <- IDK what else to call it I must set up iptables?
[16:19] <aspoor> guys knockin on my front door hold up!!!
[16:19]  * regeya watches everyone in the channel hold up.
[16:19]  * tyler_d stops thinking while waiting for aspoor
[16:20] <skapism> ed_debian: what do you mean with 'setup'. iptables is basically a firewall where you get to say what comes in and waht goes out
[16:21] <ed_debian> skapism, Set up NAT.
[16:21] <themad> jmworx__: that tutorial you've gave me - nothing went better.
[16:21] <skapism> ed_debian: you can look at it as a software router inside the linux kernel
[16:21] <themad> ~130FPS
[16:21] <usr13> ed_debian: I don't think it would be accurate to say that iptables is built into the kernel, but it does work at the kernel level and is probably the best tool to use.  Not knowing exactly what you're trying to do I can't help you re-create your iptables rules, but I can tell you that if you get them correct, you will be able to produce the desired results.  iptables is very versitle and powerful.
[16:22] <ed_debian> usr13, Thank you
[16:22] <ed_debian> skapism, thank you
[16:22] <jmworx__> themad: What method did you use in that tutorial? Got performance as good as you got earlier?
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> I thought iptables features  was a module loaded into the kernel
[16:22] <usr13> ed_debian: What exactly are you trying to do?
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> but i rarely use/need the feature :)
[16:22] <usr13> Are you wanting to share one network with another?
[16:22] <skapism> Dr_Willis: it's part of the kernel with iptables being a userspace application
[16:22] <robin0800_> usr13: you could try fiestarter a gui for iptables
[16:23] <themad> jmworx__: i used everithing up to editing xorg.conf, performance is ~20FPS worse.
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> one thing about iptables guis' theres a lot t o choose from. :)
[16:23] <ed_debian> usr13, I am trying to set up a network with 8 client and 1 server.  The server needs to be a router (NAT), and a file server (NFS).  Eventually I would like to do other things as well but we're not there yet.
[16:23] <jmworx__> themad: Oh, you mean the http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html did *not* work?
[16:23] <bobsaccamano> hi..my ubuntu is giving an error while detecting my external USB HDD...any idea what might be the problem? How do i see my syslog ?
[16:24] <skapism> themad: did you try just installing the netbook remix packages on intrepid?
[16:24] <ed_debian> usr13, Yes I am getting to the internet from my clients through my server
[16:24] <jmworx__> It actually lists two possible methods there? Which one did you try?
[16:24] <riwa> How do I restart X? ^-alt backspace doesnt work
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> Im using the Netbook-remix 'edition' on my AcerAspireOne. it seems to work very well
[16:24] <Pici> !dontzap | riwa
[16:24] <xfm> Hello guys!! Anyone as a problem with a ATI card with the new ubuntu? I have the impression that fglrx drivers doesn't work anymore with "old" ATI card (Radeon X700 for me). Anyone has a clue? Thank you
[16:24] <skapism> themad: sudo apt-get install go-home-applet human-netbook-theme maximus netbook-launcher window-picker-applet
[16:24] <themad> jmworx__: yes, i meant this
[16:24] <usr13> ed_debian: So you are wanting to share the internet through a PC, (use it for a router?).
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> riwa:  that is disabled by default now a days. thers some other obscoure key combo that is supposed to do the same thoing.. (i can never rember it)
[16:25] <jmworx__> themad: Which of the two methods on that page did you try?
[16:25] <ed_debian> usr13, yes
[16:25] <themad> skapism: i'm downloding 8.10 .img for pendrive
[16:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: just a second.. alt+sysrq+k will kill X?
[16:25] <themad> jmworx__: the first one
[16:25] <skapism> themad: aight
[16:25] <Pici> xfm: I'm sucessfully using the open 'ati' drivers on my ATI x1400. I originally had to remove xorg-driver-fglrx for this to work.
[16:25] <xfm> riwa: try ALT+Impr+k
[16:25] <usr13> ed_debian: If it is as simple as that and you want to use a gui tool, firestarter is very easy to use.
[16:25] <riwa> is there some command then??+ Xorg --restart
[16:25] <Pici> Paddy_EIRE: Thats what the factoid says.
[16:25] <skapism> themad: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-904-hands
[16:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: nice :)
[16:25] <riwa> xfm: Impr???
[16:25] <jmworx__> themad: 1) Did you remove the "downgraded" video driver from your previous attempt?
[16:25] <skapism> themad: there's a section there on installing it manually
[16:25] <Pici> riwa: sudo invoke-rc.d restart ?dm  will also work
[16:26] <xfm> Pici: what do you mean with "open ati drivers"? Radeon or Radeonhd?
[16:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: and the same goes for me.. my laptop is entirely free now
[16:26] <skapism> xfm: radeon. radeonhd is dead
[16:26] <usr13> But if you tell me what the interfaces are connected to I can tell you the rules you need to implement.
[16:26] <themad> jmworx__: yes i did
[16:26] <xfm> skapism: tks
[16:26] <Pici> skapism: 'ati' and 'radeon' are the same, right?
[16:26] <skapism> Pici: yeah, ati is a wrapper package
[16:26] <reddevil^> How can I install/activate UMTS for my laptop in ubuntu?
[16:26] <jmworx__> themad: I guess the only thing I can suggest is to try the second method
[16:26] <skapism> Pici: in ubuntu
[16:27] <themad> jmworx__: ok, ill try
[16:27] <usr13> ed_debian: But if you tell me what the interfaces are connected to I can tell you the rules you need to implement.
[16:27] <Pici> skapism: Right
[16:27] <skapism> Pici: I mean, 'xserver-xorg-video-ati'
[16:27] <xfm> riwa: yeah, well the key that make a copy of your screen. I don't know what is the name in your langage
[16:28] <Pici> skapism: I know what you meant
[16:28] <skapism> Pici: alright
[16:28] <usr13> ed_debian: you can do sudo apt-get install firestarter   and just tell it you want to share the connection and it will do it for you.
[16:28] <ed_debian> usr13, I don't want a GUI on my server.  eth1 connects to a dumb switch that connects all my clients.  eth0 connects to the internet (I have a public ip address).
[16:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Pici: are there any signs of the karmic theme.. or colour palette around that you know of?
[16:28] <xfm> Pici: Any trick in the xorg.conf? or just put "radeon" in the driver sectin?
[16:28] <BorkisDrizzt> tyler_d: sure thing, works with different image types. I'm out of here again then :)
[16:29] <Pici> xfm: it *should* just autodetect, but if it doesnt, 'ati' or 'radeon' will work for the driver
[16:29] <ed_debian> usr13, Is that what you are asking for?  I will use firestarter if I have to but I'd rather not.  What rule(s) would it create if I told it I want to share my connection?
[16:29] <phantom> Hi all have to make a big choice. Have to move my data to a cros platform filesystem (linux/mac/win) ntfs isent my first choice but I dont know much of others.
[16:30] <usr13> ed_debian: /usr/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -o eth0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[16:30] <xfm> Pici: well I'm stuck with a 640*480 screen so I guess autodetect doesn't work ;)
[16:30] <skapism> phantom: ext support on win is cr*p. so ntfs, unfortunately, yes.
[16:30] <Paddy_EIRE> phantom which FS are you using on your linux install?
[16:30] <usr13> ed_debian: where <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is the LAN
[16:30] <skapism> phantom: ntfs support on linux is quite excellent, so no worries. I have no idea about mac
[16:30] <phantom> ext3
[16:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ext2fs driver for windows works just fine for ext2/3 phantom
[16:31] <usr13> ed_debian: You may need to first enter command:
[16:31] <usr13> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:31] <carandraug> phantom: if you want support in mac as well, don't use ntfs. Use FAT32. That's supported in all OS
[16:31] <Sergey> Hi guys! Is it possible to have MySQL utilize all CPU cores for a single query? I'm executing very heavy queries, and have dual quad core server, and only one core gets utilized on them =(
[16:31] <skapism> Paddy_EIRE: I have yet to see for *once* with my own eyes a ext partition working windows. never happened for me. not even once
[16:31] <argot76> Hello.
[16:31] <skapism> working under*
[16:31] <Paddy_EIRE> skapism: that sucks.. I have had nothing but success with it
[16:31] <argot76> What is the live version of Ubuntu?
[16:31] <phantom> FAT32 = 4gb limit so not for me
[16:32] <skapism> Paddy_EIRE: that's cool
[16:32] <ed_debian> usr13, don't you need to specify which chain you are adding the rule to?
[16:32] <argot76> Because I had feisty Fawn before.
[16:32] <usr13> ed_debian: no
[16:32] <argot76> And it was a live disc.
[16:32] <skapism> phantom: that refers to file size, you know?
[16:32] <krphop> argot76: 9.04
[16:32] <Paddy_EIRE> skapism: make sure you are using the 'stable' driver
[16:32] <phantom> y
[16:32] <MarshWiggle> sacarlson: hey are you there?
[16:32] <MarshWiggle> m
[16:32] <argot76> Where can I download the live version for that?
[16:32] <skapism> Paddy_EIRE: stable? heh. none of the solutions worked for me.
[16:32] <ed_debian> usr13, Where will the rule go if you don't?  In all chains?  Sorry to interrupt what command might I have to run?
[16:32] <argot76> I downloaded one for 64 but it is install.
[16:33] <argot76> I just want to try out ubuntu.
[16:33] <skapism> phantom: then take ntfs. though I don't know how well supported it is on macos.
[16:33] <carandraug> phantom: mac has no support for ntfs nor ext3 (you have to install extra software to read). And you need to do the same in windows to read ext3
[16:33] <argot76> I read that drapper is the only live version but that can't be true is it?
[16:33] <argot76> Drapper is old.
[16:33] <carandraug> skapism: it's not supported in mac OS
[16:33] <phantom> member:skapism ntfs 3g is also for macks
[16:33] <Zelfje> ntfs is supported in osX by 3rd party software (paragon) not freeware
[16:33] <skapism> argot76: nope, every ubuntu version in the last years is live too
[16:34] <skapism> phantom: in that case, you can take ntfs. i guess userland applications aren't that bad sometimes
[16:34] <skapism> phantom: i've only heard it's been ported successfully over to the bsds
[16:35] <argot76> I only have the install.
[16:35] <argot76> Where do I find the live version?
[16:35] <Zelfje> native *nix do read only on ntfs
[16:35] <carandraug> phantom: you can walk around with macfuse in another pen. MAcfuse will let you read ntfs in Mac (I had some problems with ntfs3g in Mac)
[16:35] <ed_debian> usr13, ?  Are you there?
[16:36] <usr13> ed_debian: http://pastebin.ca/
[16:36] <themad> what can i do, when lspci -vv is not fitting my terminal?
[16:37] <Pici> themad: pipe it into less?
[16:37] <skapism> themad: lspci -vv | more
[16:37] <argot76> Where can I download the live version of 9.04?
[16:37] <djbloc> In my first steps to creating a custom live cd I've unpacked and repacked the jaunty iso using the commands shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/164208/. When trying to boot using Virtualbox OSE it drops to busybox after repeatedly showing the lines ISO9660 Extensions  every couple of seconds for about a minute. Should I be using different arguments for the mkisofs command?
[16:37] <nihilists> does anyone here make electronic music with computer software?
[16:37] <phantom> member:identifier:zelfje: 3rd party software (paragon) what do you mean by that only the app has suport or the os to?
[16:37] <carandraug> phantom: or instead of a pen, what I do is I have two partitions in my external HD's. A small partition, FAT32, 20Mb in size, with the software to read ext3 in mac's and windows, and the rest of the disk in ext3 where I keep all the files
[16:37] <ed_debian> usr13, Thank you! :) :)  I had no idea about this site!  What a great idea!
[16:37] <Pici> argot76: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[16:38] <usr13> ed_debian: That is just what I pasted (via pastebin)
[16:38] <nihilists> does anyone here make electronic music with computer software?
[16:38] <usr13> !pastebin | ed_debian
[16:38] <argot76> I am there, but I have 64 bit. Is the iso that I'm going to download going to be live or installation cd?
[16:38] <Pici> !anyone | nihilists
[16:38] <petrolman> themad, you could also increase the number of scrollable rows in your panel :-)
[16:38] <xfm> Anyone has a good tutorial to create a usb key with ubuntu on it, and without changing the capacity to 650mb (its a 16Go storage and I would not like to loose the free place)
[16:38] <xfm> tks
[16:39] <nihilists> does anyone here make electronic music with computer software?
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> xfm:  the usb-creater tool in ubuntu can do it. or unetbootin (no persistant save with unetbootin) or try the pendrivelinux.com tutorials
[16:39] <Pici> nihilists: This is a support channel. If you have a support question I suggest asking it.  Other chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:40] <usr13> ed_debian: You may also be interested in a small, simple application called pastebinit  [apt-get pastebinit]
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> xfm:  the only way iva seen the space get 'lost' is using 'dd' and the ubuntu_UNR_9.04 .img file to a thumnbdrive
[16:40] <xfm> Dr_Willis: thqnk you
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> xfm:  which was annoying. :)
[16:41] <argot76> I downloaded that version. Where is the live cd?
[16:41] <xfm> Dr_Willis: arg. I remeber having seen a way to partition the usb drive so that we do not loose the free space. But impossible to refind this
[16:41] <phantom> carandraug:is ext 3 suport good on mac?
[16:41] <argot76> The only choices that I have are install ubuntu.
[16:42] <argot76> Check cd for defects and things like that.
[16:42] <ienorand> argot76: Are you booting off the cd?
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> zfm yea the img file i saw overwrte the tabls and made a single drive.  it dident even have a partition. it was just 'sda' on  thymbdrive. that REALLY confused things.
[16:42] <Uqbar> uhm
[16:42] <argot76> Yeah.
[16:42] <argot76> Live cd.
[16:42] <themad> jmworx__: the 2nd method on that page dosn't work ethier
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> xfm:  it it ha at least made a 'sda1' i could of used gparted to resize.
[16:42] <argot76> Not installation.
[16:42] <ienorand> argot76: If you have no "Try ubuntu without changes" you are using the alternate install CD
[16:42] <Pici> !enter | argot76
[16:43] <argot76> Ok my bad.
[16:43] <xfm> Dr_Willis: I'll try to gparted it before installing the img
[16:43] <argot76> :(
[16:44] <carandraug> phantom: it's okay. I didn't have troubles yet. You need to install something first though. http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[16:44] <argot76> Sorry about that I feel so stupid now lol.
[16:44] <mindheavy> firefox seems to be crashing on pages with fullscreened video or maybe flash, only error i can get is "segmentation fault" anyone know how to find out more about whats causing this crash?
[16:44] <xfm> mindheavy: reinstall flash
[16:44] <|Zippo|_> is there anybody using conky with compiz' widget layer?
[16:44] <Buttons840> When I display long help files in the terminal, is there a way to display one page at a time?  (Similar to a dos feature.)
[16:44] <xfm> mindheavy: what plugin do you use?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> xfm:  could try dding the img to 'sda1' instead of 'sda' perhaps.
[16:44] <argot76> I didn't know that ubuntu changed its layout. I have mandriva 64 and I would like to try ubuntu to see if it is more stable.
[16:45] <djbloc> In my first steps to creating a custom live cd I've unpacked and repacked the jaunty iso using the commands shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/164208/. When trying to boot using Virtualbox OSE it drops to busybox after repeatedly showing the lines ISO9660 Extensions  every couple of seconds for about a minute. Should I be using different arguments for the mkisofs command?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Buttons840:  linux 101 ' use the 'more' command.
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Buttons840:  more longfile.txt
[16:45] <conb123> Hi is there anyway of indexing my file system into the nautilus search so that it will find everything quicker
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Buttons840:  or the 'less' command. :)
[16:45] <Buttons840> so when i do ./configure --help and i want one page at a time, what would I do?
[16:45] <mindheavy> xfm: its shockwave 10 r22
[16:45] <oem> i think that gOS is nbetter than Ubuntu
[16:45] <saiki> if I buy a new Nvidia card, will I have to reinstall an reconfigure the nvidia modual?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> Buttons840:  command | more
[16:46] <saiki> (from 8400 to 8600)
[16:46] <carandraug> phantom: uups. That's for windows. Here's for mac http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[16:46] <Buttons840> Dr_Willis, Thanks.
[16:46] <robin0800_> Buttons840: less is newer
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> less and more are often alias's/links to one/other these days. .ive not noticed whuch it is ubuntu :)
[16:47] <ienorand> argot76: for the live you want the iso named: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-*****.iso (**** is arch i386/amd64)
[16:47] <argot76> Ok.
[16:47] <xfm> mindheavy: same as me, and its working
[16:47] <argot76> Thank you.
[16:47] <xfm> mindheavy: I already had such problem. Reinstalling flash has solved
[16:47] <markl_> i set up twinview on 9.04 and my gnome panel is on the right screen but is locked - how do i move it to the left screen?
[16:47] <phantom> carandraug: if I know corect only from ext3 is journaling suported so the driver dosent suporte it?
[16:47] <xfm> mindheavy: don't know the exact explanation, sorry
[16:48] <mindheavy> xfm:  whats the best method to reinstall after removing it? package manager or what?
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> markl_:  hold down the alt key. click/ drag
[16:48] <nihilists> does anyone here make electronic music with computer software?
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> markl_:  i think.. i had to fogure that out the other day
[16:48] <carandraug> phantom: yes. But it still reads and writes in ext3 partitions
[16:48] <markl_> Dr_Willis: ah that worked perfectly!
[16:48] <markl_> thanks
[16:48] <markl_> and what is that command to add mp3 support to everything
[16:48] <phantom> carandraug:thanx much
[16:48] <sKreeM> logout
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> markl_:   dont forget to set the 'default/primary' monitor in the nvidia-settings tool also
[16:49] <Hymnosis> nihilists , you mean recording?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> markl_:  i always install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' that adds a lot of things.
[16:49] <mindheavy> xfm:  actually the window i'm seeing it in only allows me to disable/enable, how would i remove and reinstall?
[16:49] <saiki> if I buy a new Nvidia card, will I have to reinstall an reconfigure the nvidia modual?
[16:49] <carandraug> phantom: no problem. Just some problems you may encounter when copying files from one filesystem to another. STrange characters and files with the same name but different case
[16:49] <saiki> (from 8400 to 8600)
[16:50] <rwolfe> bleh
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> saiki:  if  they need a differnt driver yes.. if not no.
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> saiki:  its not too hard to change them
[16:51] <ienorand> mindheavy: go into synaptic and do a search for flash, remove and reinstall relevant packages there.
[16:51] <mindheavy> ienorand: thanks
[16:51] <usr13> saiki: I don't think you will need to change software.
[16:51] <saiki> good :)
[16:51] <saiki> any um.. anyone ble to find "joypad" in the repos?
[16:52] <saiki> I can't find the package and a program I use needs it
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> saiki:  no pavakge that name
[16:52] <usr13> saiki: But if you go to Nvidia.com you can see if they call for different driver software for Linux or not.
[16:52] <carandraug> phantom: for example, in ext3, you can have in one folder, the files "blah: bleh", "blah" and "Blah". If you try to copy those files to windows, filesystem will be ntfs probably and you'll get errors because the chracter ":" is not accepted in ntfs, nor files with different cases "blah" and Blah" (ntfs is case insensitive)
[16:52] <dooner> saiki: I think they both use the same driver, but the config might need to change being that the cards will identify themselves a bit differently, but the changes should be minimal..
[16:52] <xfm> mindheavy: to uninstall: sudo apt-get remove swfdec-mozilla mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash flashplugin-nonfree adobe-flashplugin
[16:53] <xfm> mindheavy: then close your firefox and reinstall it (synaptics or adobe website)
[16:53] <cezarcasc> anywone can help me ?
[16:53] <xfm> cezarcasc: whats ur problem?
[16:54] <dwxreaper> ubuntu isn't picking up my "fakeraid" controller, even with ibex
[16:54] <cezarcasc> i can`t activate suround sound on ubuntu
[16:54] <dwxreaper> it sees the sata disks and tries to load dm-raid but the install screen looks corrupt...
[16:54] <cezarcasc> im hearing only the front speakers
[16:55] <xfm> cezarcasc: thats a problem with your sound card configuration
[16:55] <cezarcasc> i know
[16:55] <argot76> Why is ubuntu really popular?
[16:56] <Ademan> does anyone have a favorite NES emulator?
[16:56] <cezarcasc> there is and daemon.conf
[16:56] <cezarcasc> on default-channel
[16:56] <cezarcasc> i had modifyed 2 whit 6
[16:56] <Pici> !enter | cezarcasc
[16:56] <conb123> Hi does anybody know of a way to index my file system so that search results in nautilus are quicker, similar to the way google desktop does it
[16:56] <xfm> argot76: because canonical is putting a lot of money in the project
[16:57] <mindheavy> xfm: i see all the packages in synaptic except adobe-flashplugin should this be there? i can't find any with adobe in the name
[16:57] <argot76> So they pay for driver support and stuff?
[16:57] <argot76> That is good.
[16:57] <Pici> !ot | argot76 xfm
[16:57] <argot76> My bad.
[16:57] <argot76> I was just wondering.
[16:57] <Pici> conb123: If you are using gnome, tracker is installed by default, check your preferences menu for a search item there ;)
[16:57] <darkhelmetlive> i've got a weird problems with jaunty amd64. i've got a linksys usb wireless dongle, and a logitech g5 laser usb mouse. the mouse works until i plug in the wireless dognle, and then themouse just stops working. i can use the sensitivity buttons and watch the light on the mouse change but that's it.
[16:57] <racecar56> brb
[16:58] <Ademan> argot76: I would say because of the extra polish that has gone into ubuntu on top of the solid base of debian, and more importantly, this channel and the ubuntu forums are FULL of helpful and supportive people who welcome, guide and help new users
[16:58] <carandraug> phantom: I have to go now. My recommendation is to use FAT32 if you want to have no problems at all. You can split files that are above 4Gb with rar. If you really don't want to use to do that, ntfs if you mostly use windows or ext3 (or ext2 since you won't be using journalling) if you mostly use linux. Either way, you'll always have little problems. Ntfs permissions are a pain in linux, and the name of some files don't appear correct wh
[16:58] <carandraug> en copying from ext3 in windows.
[16:58] <conb123> Pici: Oh yes wow thanks i found it
[16:58] <mindheavy> xfm: sorry, i realized i have to install that from adobe's site
[16:59] <saiki> Dr_Willis: it's joystick, my bad. but is there a jaunty one?
[16:59] <xfm> mindheavy: yes, adobe-flashplugin is the propreritary drivers
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> !find joystick
[16:59] <saiki> afternoon pici
[16:59]  * regeya agrees with carandraug...fat32 is the most portable filesystem one can use; I have a drive I share between Windows, OS X and Linux, and fat32 was the only one which worked with all 3 trouble-free
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> saiki:  seems to be a joystick package
[17:00] <Mercury> In 9.04, intel video drivers, it seems to be ignoring the virtual resolution specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, this is breaking the dual screen configuration which worked perfectly on this hardware in 8.10.
[17:00] <maria__> i need a little linux/ubuntu help.  Does anyone have experience with wireless NIC settings?
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> !info joystick
[17:00] <Ademan> regeya: well fat16 is even MORE portable :-p
[17:00] <Mercury> Has anyone encountered this and found the workaround yet?
[17:00] <regeya> Ademan, to be blunt, no it's not. :->
[17:00] <maria__> !wireless
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> Mercury:  i couldent get virtual setting working on my netbook either.
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> Mercury:  not seen any work around.
[17:01] <robin0800> Mercury: Its working here
[17:01] <regeya> unless you're transporting 5.25" disks around, I suppose...
[17:01] <Ademan> maria__: I'm not particularly good with wireless (never had issues myself) but if you describe your problem as best you can (and what your'e trying to do) I, or someone else will try and help you
[17:01] <Ademan> regeya: what *doesn't* support fat16? :-p
[17:01] <Mercury> robin0800: Video drivers and could we get your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log in a pastebin somewhere?
[17:01] <maria__> Ademan...thanks.  I have set iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M
[17:01] <Mercury> Dr_Willis: Well, I guess I'll find it today.
[17:01] <saiki> Ademan: windows 1.0?
[17:02] <maria__> Ademan...but the net throughput is only 1.3mbit
[17:02] <code-shah> I just started getting this - Warning: simplexml_load_string()
[17:02] <saiki> Dr_Willis: downloading them, thanks
[17:02] <peepsalot> i just upgraded from intrepid to jaunty, and it changed the gnome-terminal font I had.  I don't remember what it was, is there a list of fixed width fonts somewhere to try out?
[17:02] <regeya> Ademan: perhaps you're right, but I'm not going to the trouble of partitioning my 320gb USB drive in that many partitions :->
[17:02] <markl_> Dr_Willis: thanks again for your help
[17:02] <m1dlg> How do I re-install my video drivers on my netbook, I think it's intel drivers. It's a ADVENT 4213 also known as a G10. It did play 3d stuff, but now it will not even play video without the video app crashing
[17:02] <maria__> Ademan.....where do i start the troubleshoot?  The other PC on the LAN is wired and get full bandwidth 16Mbit
[17:02] <darkhelmetlive> is there an ubuntu 64 bit channel?
[17:02] <Ademan> regeya: of course, I was just being useless and obnoxious in an attempt to be funny haha
[17:03] <Slart> darkhelmetlive: nope.. this one will have to do
[17:03] <regeya> Ademan, and I'm not of course :->
[17:03] <maria__> Ademan....so its not the internet connection.  Either the wireless on the router or the wireless NIC are not "playing nice"
[17:03] <darkhelmetlive> blarg. no ideas anybody? logitech usb mouse stops working when a linksys wireless dongle gets plugged in...
[17:03] <Slart> peepsalot: I use terminus for my terminal... it's in the repos
[17:03] <darkhelmetlive> such a stupid problem...
[17:04] <Slart> darkhelmetlive: nothing in the logs?
[17:04] <linuxnewbe> hi how can I obtain information about my hardware ? number of cores in mu processor and so on?
[17:04] <rxMokka> anyone know a page detailing what exactly the difference in supported packages are for LTS releases in regards to "desktop" vs "server"?
[17:04] <phantom> darkhelmetlive:mine has the same problem near blutooth
[17:04] <rxMokka> by "supported", I mean the extended 3yr/5yr updates
[17:05] <Ademan> maria__: are you using ndiswrapper for your wifi? I have a vague recollection of people not getting optimal performance out of it. Otherwise I would ask how close the router and the machine in question are, and ask if an equivalent computer (XP partition maybe?) gets similar speed
[17:05] <darkhelmetlive> Slart: nothing that i can see...just the wireless connecting...
[17:05] <robin0800> Mercury: http://rafb.net/p/6fUy1R71.html
[17:05] <racecar56> back
[17:05] <serpico> hi
[17:05] <saiki> linuxnewbe: I'm sure you can check hose with the system monitor
[17:05] <darkhelmetlive> Slart: it's just the logitech one too....i have a dell mouse connected and working...
[17:06] <maria__> Ademan.....XP on this machine had 16mbit.  The signal strenght was and still is 80% or higher.  It is not signal strength/quality.
[17:06] <hmw> I try to install dvd playback stuff like this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/me0eafa9 - but Totem only tries to install "DVD Source" resulting in the message "No packages with the requested plugins found". What am I missing?
[17:06] <Ademan> linuxnewbe: cat /proc/cpuinfo gives you a *ton* of information
[17:06] <peepsalot> Slart, i have console-terminus package installed, but I don't see terminus in the font list for gnome-terminal
[17:06] <darkhelmetlive> phantom: bluetooth mouse + wireless dongle?
[17:06] <maria__> ademan....how do i determine if I am using ndiswrapper?
[17:06] <usr13> !dvd | hmw
[17:07] <Slart> darkhelmetlive: hmm.. well.. I'm out of ideas then.. sorry
[17:07] <kovan> I'm having some issues with OO 3, is it possible to downgrade to OO 2.4 ??
[17:07] <Slart> peepsalot: hmm.. it shows up in my profile settings.. werd
[17:07] <peepsalot> Slart, nm, i think i need xfonts-terminus
[17:07] <corecode> hey, where would i find the sources to the ubuntu installer?
[17:07] <saiki> darkhelmetlive: what's the problem you're having?
[17:07] <Ademan> maria__: hrm, I actually couldn't tell you, like I said I suck at wifi as I've never really had to mess with it on my ubuntu machines, if you'll give me a moment I'll see if I can look it up
[17:07] <glitsj16> linuxnewbe: "sudo lshw -html > my_hardware_info.html" gives you a nice formatted html page you can open in your browser
[17:08] <usb> When I woke up my computer, the usb was without power. This happens often. Usually I restart the computer to fix it. Is there a command to restart USB?
[17:08] <ibuclaw> corecode, which part of it ?
[17:08] <Slart> peepsalot: that might be it.. I've got both installed
[17:08] <hmw> usr13: i dont have /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[17:08] <Yanick_> I have tried to remove Java-6 OpenJDK, which just won't let me run Eclipse for some reason, but now it says it's broken and I cannot install or remove anything
[17:08] <darkhelmetlive> saiki: i have a logitech usb mouse. it works until i plug in a linksys wireless dongle. wirless connects, mouse stops working
[17:08] <Yanick_> how can I resolve this? the Java-6 OpenJDK has not been removed
[17:09] <gs94> Hello, I need to compile *only* the yahoo protocol plugin in pidgin. It has a Makefile.in in its directory. Can i compile it alone without the whole of pidgin ?
[17:09] <darkhelmetlive> i think the dongle might screw up other things too....i can't shutdown/logout...it just kind of hangs on the desktop...
[17:09] <racecar56> gs94, i dont see why not
[17:09] <Ademan> maria__: one thought before I look,   if you run    lsmod | grep -i ndis    that *might* produce output if you're using ndiswrapper (if ndiswrapper is a kernel module it should work, but I don't know if it is or not)
[17:09] <gs94> racecar56: how ?
[17:09] <darkhelmetlive> saiki: i added acpi=force irqpoll to grub but haven't restarted yet to examine changes...
[17:09] <gs94> racecar56: It doesn't have its own makefile
[17:09] <racecar56> gs94, hmm
[17:10] <ibuclaw> corecode, the ubuntu "installer" is named ubiquity. You can get it by typing in:  apt-get source ubiquity
[17:10] <maria__> Ademan.....no output using that command
[17:10] <hmw> usr13: i want to make a "post-install script", which also should install dvd codecs. I managed to make it work yesterday, but couldnt determine, how exactly i did. There is one step missing. Could you look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/me0eafa9 and give me a hint, what is missing?
[17:10] <Ademan> maria__: alright, I'll do a bit of searching then
[17:10] <racecar56> gs94, maybe do like some people do with compiling one module for a kernel... SIGINT when it finishes compiling it
[17:10] <saiki> darkhelmetlive: might want to, never had an issue like that
[17:10] <corecode> ibuclaw: no, i'm thinking of the text installer
[17:11] <gs94> racecar56: but not a very good idea right ? can't i just use the makefile include ?
[17:11] <racecar56> gs94, idk
[17:11] <saiki> darkhelmetlive: I hae a log mouse and dongle, but I don't have my pc o right now
[17:11] <darkhelmetlive> saiki: yeah kind of annoying...i'm not even sure if it's just a 64bit problem or not...
[17:11] <darkhelmetlive> brb
[17:11] <saiki> darkhelmetlive: I'll check my pc, give me 5 mins
[17:11] <saiki> and pm me
[17:12] <needhelp> Hi there
[17:12] <needhelp> need some help here
[17:12] <mercutio22> can I get some support in Kile, anyone here familiar with it?
[17:12] <needhelp> anyone available ?
[17:12] <usb> ok
[17:12] <creative83> Hey guys. I have a really strange behaviour on my x64 since installing 9.04.  Same behaviour with apt-get
[17:12] <hmw> !ask | needhelp
[17:12] <Ademan> maria__: you might try iwlist bitrate   to see if the driver really thinks its operating like it should
[17:12] <rwolfe> needhelp, what ya need?
[17:12] <creative83> Any clues how I could track down the problem?
[17:12] <ibuclaw> corecode, that is the text based installer ... the debian version being debian-installer
[17:13] <maria__> Ademan....wlan0     unknown bit-rate information.
[17:13] <maria__>           Current Bit Rate=11 Mb/s
[17:13] <needhelp> hmw > private conv
[17:13] <maria__> Ademan...i set the bitrate manually.  Everytime I boot it is set to 1Mbit.
[17:13] <mac9416> I want to recompile my kernel, and I understand I need linux-kernel-devel. Unfortunately, my Ubuntu machine is offline, and I can't use apt to get it. What is in linux-kernel-devel? I cna download the individual packages myself.
[17:13] <Zakman91> Hi, I need help with my Broadcom b43 wireless driver, Please
[17:13] <Ademan> maria__: and that's what you set it to right? so it sounds like it *thinks* it's operating correctly
[17:14] <needhelp> hmw > I have like 5-6 sentences to write
[17:14] <saurabh1403> hello all..............is there any ipmessenger in ubuntu by which i can send files on the LAN also??
[17:14] <maria__> Ademan....but I fixed that in the etc/network/network file
[17:14] <needhelp> hmw - I'll try to do it here in the public channel
[17:14] <darkhelmetlive> seems to work thus far...
[17:14] <saiki> darkhelmetlive: check pm
[17:15] <MyWay> hi, how to accept all incoming/outcoming traffic with iptables?
[17:15] <ienorand> !pastebin | needhelp
[17:15] <creative83> saurabh1403: Skype should be aware that you're in the same network and transfers the file directly (works in most cases)
[17:15] <maria__> Ademan...so the NIC *thinks* that it is set to 11Mbit.  How do I tell if the router is transmitting at least that much?  I read somewhere that encryption like WPA slows bitrates?  Anythoughts?
[17:15] <mac9416> By dingy, I missed something. I'm on intrepid and according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile linux-kernel-devel doesn't exist! I have to download some other packs. Problem solved!
[17:16] <saurabh1403> creative83: all right..I will try skype also...but i think there shud be some settings to be done in skype for making it able to find LAN computers
[17:16] <kovan> I'm having some issues with OO 3, is it possible to downgrade to OO 2.4 ?
[17:16] <maria__> Ademan...is this useful information.....product: Wireless PCI Adapter RT2400 / RT2460
[17:16] <maria__>                 vendor: RaLink
[17:16] <ibuclaw> mac9416, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[17:17] <saurabh1403> creative83: all right..i got it....i will try it...
[17:17] <creative83> saurabh1403: Skype is really good when it comes to networks/firewalls and so. It can bypass many proxys/firewalls and should recognise automatically that you and your buddy are in the same network.
[17:17] <Yanick_> I can't install/update/remove anything because of this error : "E: sun-java6-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" wth does it mean?
[17:17] <Yanick_> and I do I fix it?
[17:17] <Mercury> Dr_Willis: Found it.
[17:17] <Ademan> maria__: definitely useful, with that I can determine your driver, hopefully, hah
[17:18] <saurabh1403> creative83: all right..however, i use skype on my ubuntu....thanks...i wil ltry it now
[17:18] <sci> !seen sci
[17:18] <Ademan> maria__: are you on a msi wind?
[17:18] <Mercury> Dr_Willis: Downgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel to 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu9.
[17:18] <rxMokka> maria__: that 11mbit is connection-speed rating, not what you're actually pushing through with network data. encryption/authentication should not affect that number. if you're not running at the connection-speed rating that you expect, its most likely a signal strength/orientation or interfeerance issue
[17:18] <maria__> Ademan....dont understand the question
[17:18] <MyWay> hi, how to accept all incoming/outcoming traffic with iptables?
[17:19] <Ademan> maria__: nevermind, it's a specific laptop make and model
[17:19] <needhelp> thing is I try to install ubuntu 9.04 on a system witn windows on it; I have 3 HDD's - FIRST and THIRD for storage; the second is with the OS ( windows ); I choose the option of installing linux in parralel with windows and having a bootloader to choose from each OS; after the installation of Ubuntu starts it's making the partitions ( swap / ext ) eighter on HDD1 or in HDD3; how to choose the second drive manually and how to avoid erasing windows from this part
[17:19] <prabesh> am not understanding
[17:19] <maria__> rxMokka....this machine with XP runs at 16mbit.  There was no location change with respect to the AP
[17:19] <Ademan> MyWay: I believe that's the default configuration
[17:19] <ibuclaw> MyWay, unless you've setup ufw or another firewall, that is the default
[17:19] <rickest> my /usr/src/linux symlink points to headers that are no longer installed. what's the correct way to update that symlink?
[17:20] <famine> hello, ive booted off a ubuntu live cd and I need to wipe my master boot record (MBR), how do I do that?
[17:20] <sci> #help
[17:20] <ibuclaw> MyWay, all ports are stealthed, meaning that you won't get a connection unless there is a service listening.
[17:20] <rxMokka> maria__: winXP lies, 16mbit is not a valid connection rating afaik
[17:20] <maria__> I like Ubuntu...but its just frustrating that all my Windows network skills are....moot.
[17:20] <rxMokka> maria__: next valid rating after 11 is 54 I believe
[17:20] <maria__> rxMokka....ok, it had more than 1mbit but less than 16mbit
[17:20] <spence> hi #ubuntu, i'm new to it. i haven't had any luck installing drivers for my ATi 4850
[17:20] <needhelp> ubottu > thanks for the tip man ; I'm not so familiar with IRC
[17:20] <spence> any suggestions?
[17:21] <Dong_Phu> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?𝑹𝑰𝑷𝑳𝑶𝑳𝑺𝑼𝑷𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺" 0 0 0
[17:21] <MyWay> ibuclaw: i'm trying to connect to remote desktop
[17:21] <maria__> rxMokka....so now that youve pointed it out...this NIC has a max of 11mbit
[17:21] <lazermouse> how do you switch to root in terminal?
[17:21] <racecar56> foo
[17:21] <maria__> rxMokka...which it currently does not using Ubuntu
[17:21] <racecar56> lazermouse, su
[17:21] <spence> isn't sudo supposed to be a one off thing?
[17:21] <rxMokka> maria__: oh, you are getting 1mbit? I thought you said you had 11
[17:21] <racecar56> lazermouse, but if it says auth failure then do sudo passwd root and then do su again
[17:22] <ibuclaw> MyWay, from ubuntu to ubuntu? or ubuntu to windows?
[17:22] <hmw> lazermouse: ubuntu is meant to be used with sudo, not logging in as root. sudo -i gets you to root, if you really want that. Checkout pam_usb, use your SSD as your password-replacement.
[17:22] <MyWay> ubuntu ubuntu
[17:22] <maria__> rxMokka....the NIC setting that I manually set reads 11mbit
[17:22] <maria__> rxMokka...but every single bandwidth test shows 1mbit
[17:22] <lazermouse> thx
[17:22] <racecar56> su works for me.......
[17:22] <sci> seen sci
[17:22] <MyWay> maybe it's the router that changed ethernet ip
[17:22] <rxMokka> racecar56: why sudo su rather than sudo -i?
[17:22] <Ademan> lazermouse: you want to have a terminal as root? or just run a command as root?  (usually it's not recommended to have a terminal as root, but that'd be sudo -i or I believe sudo su -) otherwise sudo <command> (without the < > )
[17:22] <ienorand> lazermouse: first use sudo as much as possible, then if you really have to use sudo -s
[17:23] <racecar56> rxMokka, i use plain ol' su
[17:23] <maria__> rxMokka....the wired PCs on this LAN are all running full bandwidth circa 16mbit
[17:23] <racecar56> rxMokka, su and nothing else
[17:23] <MyWay> ibuclaw: how to change eth0 ip?
[17:23] <lazermouse> I have to use root, i think
[17:23] <lazermouse> I want to install AIM
[17:23] <racecar56> lazermouse, get oidgin instead
[17:23] <spence> no Pidgin?
[17:23] <racecar56> lazermouse, *pidgin
[17:23] <bluntman225> ok guys i have installed the ati properity drivers fromt he ati website.  How do I enable them within my xorg conf?  I know onboard is supposed to give an onscreen keyboard but how do you activate it...?
[17:25] <thiebaude> Emry: no
[17:25] <racecar56> thiebaude, 'xept i can't cause i upgraded from intrepid (on my other pcs)
[17:25] <ibuclaw> MyWay, remote desktop to ubuntu will only work if (a) the vnc service is running on the server,  or (b) the remote desktop client is running and you are logged into a session on the server.
[17:25] <rxMokka> maria__: bt not going to work as well over wifi, and in general is an instable benchmark for testing network speed
[17:25] <PhunkySKunk> hey  everyone
[17:25] <maria__> rxMokka....im at a loss.  I can only suspect the NIC and router are not playing nice.
[17:25] <Emry> Could be a good sign.  '(
[17:25] <racecar56> PhunkySKunk, hai
[17:25] <rxMokka> maria__: bt has too many simultaneous connections for wifi to perform as well as wired
[17:25] <Emry> :)
[17:25] <thiebaude> just waiting for my 9.04 cd and get rid of xp
[17:25] <ibuclaw> MyWay, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[17:25] <cdavis> What is the best way to install Skype under Jaunty
[17:26] <PhunkySKunk> i got a question that i hope someone can help me with
[17:26] <maria__> rxMokka....the torrent machine is wired, and not online at the moment
[17:26] <maria__> rxMokka....this machine will not be using torrent
[17:26] <maria__> rxMokka....i would like to achieve more than 1mbit.
[17:26] <ienorand> Emry: I'm having problems with regular filesystem inconsitencies on ext4, I'm not sure if that's because of running it off a usb though, fsck has saved me so far though.
[17:26] <rxMokka> maria__: I would use internal-testing to benchmark your wifi's capabilities
[17:26] <MyWay> yes ibuclaw, it is
[17:27] <rxMokka> maria__: check kismet for any interfeering channels or devices
[17:27] <bluntman225> can anyone help me configure my ati x1250 video
[17:27] <thiebaude> anyone have a good link to enable ext4 on 9.04 live cd?
[17:27] <mrfelton> my copy of firefox got screwed somehow, so I uninstalled and reinstalled it. However, now, it has not picked up any of my user settings (all the stuff in ~/.mozilla), and I can see no way of importing them manually
[17:27] <racecar56> bluntman225, yesh
[17:27] <zpx> is it possible to upgrade a package? I have openoffice 2.4.1 installed on 8.04.2, and I'm in need of 3.0.1, which is part of 9.04
[17:27] <rxMokka> maria__: set your AP to use _only_ the highest speed revision that your hardware supports (G or N Only, for example)
[17:27] <racecar56> bluntman225, apps>admin>hardware drivers
[17:27] <PhunkySKunk> i just ditched windows in favor of jaunty and am trying to get my pogitech mediaplay mouse to work. i mean all the buttons it has, but am having trouble finding easy to understand instructions as i am new to linux
[17:27] <mrfelton> I have a lot of settings in my .mozilla dir that I can;t afford to loose
[17:27] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: you may have to adjust profiles.ini to see your old one
[17:27] <ienorand> thiebaude: You use the manual partitioning option in installer
[17:27] <racecar56> PhunkySKunk, good4u
[17:27] <maria__> rxMokka....if I reinstall XP this problem "goes away".  Does XP use different channels than Ubuntu?
[17:27] <mrfelton> Insomnia1ity: adjust it to say what?
[17:28] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: take a look at .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini
[17:28] <thiebaude> ienorand: when i do that just click on and use ext4?
[17:28] <Insomnia1ity> create another block for your old profile, put the right path in
[17:28] <maria__> rxMokka....thats a great idea....manually set the router to 11mbit for the wlan.....brb
[17:28] <mrfelton> Insomnia1ity: that file is blank
[17:28] <xangua> mrfelton: then use FEBE addon to import/save/make a copy
[17:28] <rxMokka> maria__: test with WPA disabled and verify that you can connect with G-only mode or b-only, whatever you support at a max
[17:28] <mrfelton> what should it look like?
[17:28] <Yanick_> how can I fix package dependency problems? I have trouble with the openjdk package
[17:28] <Yanick_> please
[17:28] <Yanick_> anyone
[17:28] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: OK, load up firefox, create an empty profile, close firefox
[17:28] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: that'll set up the file right
[17:28] <usr13> Yanick_: apt-get -f install
[17:29] <Yanick_> usr13, trying...
[17:29] <mrfelton> Insomnia1ity: set up a new profil how?
[17:29] <rxMokka> maria__: if you can't achieve that connectevity, I'd re-verify that you're using the most-capable driver in ubuntu
[17:29] <Insomnia1ity> if that doesn't work, I'll pastebin mine
[17:29] <mrfelton> just open it annd quit is enough?
[17:29] <PhunkySKunk> a link to some easy instructions would be good or some directions
[17:29] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: just, new profile i assume when you load firefox
[17:29] <Yanick_> usr13, doesn't work
[17:29] <usr13> Yanick_: apt-get -f
[17:29] <mrfelton> Insomnia1ity: it doesn't put anything in that file
[17:29] <maria__> rxMokka...how do i determine what is the most compatible driver?  Google NIC model and ubuntu?
[17:29] <mrfelton> it's still blank
[17:30] <rxMokka> maria__: most _capable_ ;)
[17:30] <Yanick_> usr13, doesn't work (need more options)
[17:30] <maria__> rxMokka...doing my homework...will report back when i find something.  Thanks
[17:30] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: ok, make sure you've closed all copies of firefox, check your processes list
[17:30] <rxMokka> maria__: youd have to findout what driver is compatible, then install the newest version
[17:30] <usr13> Yanick_: what packages are you having trouble with?
[17:30] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: then take a look at my profiles.ini: http://pastebin.ca/1412254
[17:30] <Yanick_> usr13, http://pastebin.com/m62eefc1c
[17:30] <ienorand> thiebaude: In manaul partitioning you set root (/) as ext4 like so: http://dl.maximumpc.com/galleries/jaunty/manual-partition_sm.png (the boot on ext3 is irrelevant)
[17:30] <rxMokka> maria__: I can help you later with wifi-specifics if you want to look me up in #fluxbuntu
[17:31] <sci> !seen hans
[17:31] <maria__> rxMokka...thanks...ill take you up on your offer as soon i get a driver list
[17:31] <bluntman225> can anyone plese help me set up an ati video driver on 8.10
[17:31] <PhunkySKunk> anyone use this mouse and have some easy instructions
[17:32] <mrfelton> Insomnia1ity: I think that file is screwed...
[17:32] <mrfelton> ls -al loks liike this:
[17:32] <mrfelton> -?????????  ? ?   ?      ?                ? profiles.ini
[17:32] <zpx> can i install a package from 9.04 on 8.04?
[17:32] <mrfelton> no permissions?!
[17:32] <Yanick_> usr13, the "previous failure" was the openJDK in the first place... why was it installed by default?
[17:32] <FloodBot3> mrfelton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> mrfelton:  seen that when theres file system curruption.. time for a fsck perhaps.
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> zpx:  most likely - it wont work
[17:33] <mrfelton> Dr_Willis: an fsck was forced upon me the other day, when my machine failed to start up
[17:33] <cougarten> zpx, not recommendet but possible to try
[17:33] <Insomnia1ity> mrfelton: well, perms on my file are 644, looks like yours is toast
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> mrfelton:  i would do another one.. or boot live cd and fsck all the filesytems again
[17:33] <zpx> how would you guys advise I get openoffice 3 installed onto 8.04?
[17:33] <ienorand> mrfelton: sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[17:33] <zpx> from source? or packages?
[17:33] <mrfelton> tom@yogaflame:~/.mozilla/firefox$ rm profiles.ini
[17:33] <mrfelton> rm: cannot remove `profiles.ini': Stale NFS file handle
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> zpx:  check the forums.. I think theres some backports or ppa repos with it.
[17:33] <cougarten> I want to auto-mount a fat32 partition with fstab, what did I do wrong? "/dev/sdb5	/media/MUSIK	vfat	auto,rw,user,async	0	2"
[17:34] <usr13> Yanick_: apt-get -f install openjdk
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  does mount  /media/MUSIK give an error?
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  that directory does exist?
[17:34] <PhunkySKunk> anyone able to help me?/
[17:34] <xangua> zpx: try search a ppa repository
[17:35] <evilbug> what's a friendly looking media player that has easy access to a bunch of radio stations? this is for a computer noob.
[17:35] <Yanick_> usr13, "couldn't find package openjdk
[17:35] <ienorand> mrfelton: have a livecd ready, you might a have to boot up on something else to do the fsck
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> PhunkySKunk:  ive not really seen you give a clear question.. (at least not all on one line, rephrase the problem perhaps)
[17:35] <cougarten> Dr_Willis, mount  /media/MUSIK in a terminal? (havent got an error at startup)
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  yes.. mount it from the command line. (with sudo if neded)
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  you DID make the directory /media/MUSIK ?
[17:35] <rwolfe> cougarten, try 'sudo mount -a'
[17:36]  * mrfelton tries for a reboot.. back shortly (hopefully!)
[17:36] <usr13> Yanick_: apt-cache search open |grep -i jdk
[17:36] <cougarten> Dr_Willis, no, I thought it would e created at startup
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  thats your problem then
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> cougarten:  mounting FUNdemtals
[17:37] <usr13> Yanick_: or just:  apt-cache search openjdk
[17:37] <PhunkySKunk> im new to linux, just got rid of windows, and cant find easy instructions to get my mediaplay mouse working. so i guess my question is how can i get my logitach mediaplay mouse working under linux?
[17:37] <Yanick_> usr13, http://pastebin.com/m5ad1d45e
[17:37] <cougarten> Dr_Willis, I§ll just mount it to home/whatever_I_will_create, thx!
[17:38] <HoellP> Hey all, can anyone tell me where ehci_hcd in jaunty went?
[17:38] <Yanick_> the OpenJDK is just a pain
[17:38] <Yanick_> I just installed Ubuntu this morning, and it's already corrupted by Java
[17:39] <Yanick_> dammit
[17:39] <JohnDoe1> Has anyone ever tried encrypting their system drive?  If yes, did you use package "crypto" or another program to do it?
[17:39] <lazermouse> @lart lazermouse
[17:39] <usr13> Yanick_: apt-get -f install  openjdk*
[17:39] <usr13> Yanick_: or  apt-get -f install  openjdk-6-jre
[17:39] <lazermouse> someone lart me!!
[17:39] <Yanick_> usr13, : it's doing something that does not return an error yet
[17:39] <usr13> Yanick_: Very good.
[17:40] <Yanick_> usr13, yes indeed :P
[17:40] <evilbug> i opened up Listen audio player and went to WebRadio > Shoutcast but no stations will load up. how come?
[17:40] <hippopota> i am running intrepid ibex - on my machine - on my desktop no wallpapers are visible anymore - apologies for my bad english
[17:40] <Pudgy> I'm surprised the XCB-util issue hasn't been solved to install Awesome (wm) 3.2. Did everyone running Awesome go through that dependancy hell?
[17:40] <lazermouse> evilbug: listen.grooveshark.com
[17:40] <lazermouse> It's really good
[17:40] <Jupp> I'm thinking of replacing my desktop with a new computer from System76, but they use ATi cards in their configurations. I've always used NVidia so I'm not sure how compatible is ATI (specially the new Radeon HD cards) with ubuntu
[17:41] <lazermouse> hippopota: what language do you speak natively?
[17:41] <evilbug> lazermouse: alright.
[17:41] <zpx> ok, how do i import a key if I'm not using X (for ppa access)
[17:41] <FFForever> can i upgrade from debian 5.0 to ubuntu?
[17:41] <PhunkySKunk> Dr_willis: did that help at all
[17:41] <lazermouse> FFForever: #ubuntu
[17:41] <ienorand> Jupp: I'm guessing if it's system76 they'll make sure it works.
[17:41] <Insomnia1ity> zpx: apt-key I think
[17:41] <alecs> hi there !
[17:42] <FFForever> lazermouse, ... this is #ubuntu....
[17:42] <hippopota> lazermouse: kind of german ;-)
[17:42] <lazermouse> woops
[17:42] <FFForever> LMAO!!!
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> PhunkySKunk:  it will help the channel know whats going on at least. You may want to check the ubuntu forums, and even google and other disrto sites for how to configure a fancy mouse like that.
[17:42] <lazermouse> I thought it was ubuntu-offtopic!!
[17:42] <hippopota> and some english as well
[17:42] <FFForever> lol
[17:42] <alecs> i do have a problem with my ubuntu notebook remix! my top bar / menu / pannel does not appear... what can i do ?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> PhunkySKunk:  ive never seen/used one of those  most likely it will take some xorg.conf tweaking and perhaps some keybinding to thespecial keys
[17:42] <lazermouse> !german
[17:43] <zpx> awesome, thanks Insomnia1ity
[17:43] <hippopota> back to my problem this issue appeare after usin vinagre
[17:43] <w30> I am running 64 bit Ubuntu Jaunty and can't play videos from CNN, BBC, MSNBC, etc. I installed 64 bit Adobe Flash but something still lacks. Any help would be appreciated?
[17:43] <Insomnia1ity> zpx: you're welcome
[17:43] <zpx> and thanks to Dr_Willis and xangua
[17:43] <xangua> alecs: right clic in the panel> add> menu
[17:43] <FFForever> can i upgrade?
[17:43] <Pudgy> w30: define "still lacks"
[17:43] <hippopota>  ubottu: i was not complaining thank you .-)
[17:43] <Pici> FFForever: We don't support crossgrading.
[17:43] <FFForever> Pici, dang it =(
[17:43] <hippopota> me too
[17:44] <usr13> FFForever: That would be an interesting project.  I suppose you'd need to first change the mirror entries.  but... I really don't know.
[17:44] <joh> Right, so I upgraded some packages from a ppa which didn't work very well. How can I easily downgrade them all to the ones in the official ubuntu repositories?
[17:44] <Pici> FFForever: That doesn't mean it doesn't work... but you're really on your own if you try it.
[17:44] <Pudgy> FFForever: to call it an upgrade is subjective offcourse ;)
[17:44] <FFForever> usr13, i fear in changing things i will destroy the os lol
[17:44] <salvo> ciaoo ragazzi
[17:44] <alecs> xagua: i do not have the pannel itself ... and also ... not allways i do have top-bar to windows
[17:44] <Pici> !it | salvo
[17:44] <w30> Pudgy, Do I need some codecs so firefox will play these site's videos?
[17:44] <salvo> qualke italiano che capisce di ubuntu 9.4
[17:44] <usr13> FFForever:  That is true. Just like comparing Linux to MS XP or MS Vista or ... etc.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> w30:  flash dosent use codecs i think.. if they are flash video sites...
[17:45] <Pudgy> w30: There is a .so file you need to copy in a plugin directory... at least that's what I did
[17:45] <xangua> alecs: then in the launcher type> gnome-panel >enter
[17:45] <PhunkySKunk> Dr_Willis: ok ill try to search some more. i keep getting the same search results but ill dig around some more.
[17:45] <ienorand> !it | salvo
[17:45] <w30> Pudgy, The Firefox progress bar just says done and nothing plays
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> PhunkySKunk:  the gentoo wiki docs i recall had some very very good info on special mice.
[17:45] <jmworx__> themad: so how'd it work (was away and don't have enough scrollback)
[17:45] <zpx> can i force apt-get upgrade openoffice.org to only upgrade openoffice and required dependencies instead of everything?
[17:45] <Yanick_> usr13, ok. it ended up with the same error
[17:46] <Pudgy> w30: ... but no error message? strange. with different vids?
[17:46] <Yanick_> but now with more packages :P
[17:46] <Yanick_> I HATE OPENJDK
[17:46] <hippopota> nyway - no more wallpapers visible on my desktop -- can i delete some config file do go back to initial state ?
[17:46] <w30> Pudgy, I got Flash 64 bit installed ok so You tube works.
[17:46] <kay_> hi folks, i want to watch some online divx movies, I have the divx plugin and gstreamer and vlc but i cant get any picture? im new in ubuntu
[17:46] <usr13> FFForever: One is not better than the other, just different pretty much.  But... this is not a philosophy channel :)
[17:47] <Pudgy> w30: could you paste a url that's not working for you?
[17:47] <usr13> FFForever: Yes, you are correct.  It would be very difficult and you may hose things up pretty badly.
[17:47] <w30> Pudgy, I will get you one, hold on a sec.
[17:47] <FFForever> usr13, ohhh well looks like i am stuck with lenny on my vps
[17:47] <FFForever> :D
[17:48] <usr13> Yanick_: Try just uninstalling it.
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> w30:  ive seen some flash-video sites 'break' flash/firefox/stuff  in how they handle comercials and so forth.  ive seen a  site  that dident work for me once in Firefox.. but  did Opera Under linux..  never did figure out why
[17:48] <usr13> FFForever: You could do worse.
[17:48] <FFForever> yeah freebsd...
[17:48] <Yanick_> usr13, anything I do, that has or has not any relevance to the OpenJDK, using apt-get, synaptic, or anyother package install tools return that OpenJDK returned an error... dammit
[17:48] <hacker> hello every bdy
[17:49] <usr13> FFForever: Debain is a vrey good Disto, [but you knew that already].
[17:49] <themad> jmworx__:
[17:49] <jmworx__> themad: yes?
[17:49] <w30> Pudgy, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8026751.stm
[17:49] <themad> jmworx__: on 8.10 the performance is the same as on 9.04
[17:49] <FFForever> usr13, there are some packages i like from ubuntu that debian does not have 2 my knowledge
[17:49] <zpx> can apt-get upgrade be forced to only upgrade a specific package + dependencies, or must it upgrade all packages?
[17:49] <themad> accually 25FPS less.
[17:49] <jmworx__> themad: How'd you solve it?
[17:50] <Yanick_> going to try removing it another way
[17:50] <themad> 9.04 - 150FPS 8.10 - 125FPS
[17:50] <usr13> FFForever: For instance?
[17:50] <FFForever> php-gd
[17:50] <FFForever> well php5-gd i don't see it in their repo's
[17:50] <jmworx__> themad: I thought you said that the bad Jaunty performance was a regression?
[17:50] <hacker> can any body tell me why my unbuntu hangs frequently??????????????????
[17:50] <usr13> FFForever: You could just go outside the package tree....
[17:50] <FFForever> :D
[17:51] <usr13> hacker: Where is it hanging?
[17:51] <xangua> hackeryou use jaunty and intel video card ¿
[17:51] <FFForever> why are there multiple flood bots in here?
[17:51] <themad> jmworx__: i said that i READ that on 8.10 perfomance is better
[17:51] <Pici> FFForever: Because thats the way we do things.
[17:51] <FFForever> ...
[17:51] <xangua> hacker: you use jaunty and intel video card ¿
[17:52] <jmworx__> themad: Oh, then it may be a different problem. On my laptop, 8.10 had good performance and 9.04 has terrible performance
[17:52] <themad> jmworx__: i think ill have to live without 3d
[17:52] <thoemmel> hi, i have a problem with jaunty and an intel graphic card
[17:52] <jmworx__> themad: type: glxinfo | grep direct
[17:52] <jmworx__> thoemmel: join the club
[17:52] <themad> jmworx__: right now its impossible, im installing 9.04 back
[17:53] <thoemmel> how?
[17:53] <jmworx__> thoemmel: your machine had good 3D in 8.10 and it broke in 9.04?
[17:53] <FFighter> how can I add a service to init automatically in the init.d folder?
[17:53] <thoemmel> nope... it was a new install on a new machine
[17:53] <thoemmel> windows was well
[17:53] <thoemmel> so i installed jaunty
[17:53] <jmworx__> thoemmel: type: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[17:53] <hacker> no iam having nvdia video card but i diabled it
[17:53] <themad> jmworx__: ill write it to you as soon as my jaunty is up.
[17:54] <usr13> FFForever: When you install a server application, it automatically writes the startup script into the init.d directory.
[17:54] <bionoid> Hello. How do I change the default window manager to metacity in latest ubuntu? (veery sluggish 3d card..)
[17:54] <krphop> FFighter: if there's already an init script for it, you can add it to various runlevels via update-rc.d or sysvconfig
[17:54] <thoemmel> thats a problem... may i come back, when i am in front of the computer?? Now i am home...
[17:54] <usr13> FFighter: When you install a server application, it automatically writes the startup script into the init.d directory.
[17:54] <jmworx__> thoemmel: if it says "direct rendering: Yes" and yet you have poor 3D performance, then you likely have the same problem as I have.
[17:54] <thoemmel> it says yes
[17:55] <thoemmel> but i have a another problem
[17:55] <krphop> jmworx__ i think there's an issue with some of the newer kernels and intel graphics
[17:55] <usr13> FFighter: But what specific server do you want to create startup script for?
[17:55] <thoemmel> i think it is an xorg problem
[17:55] <FFighter> krphop, usr13, Thanks. Memcached started itself automatically before I updated to 9.04, now it doesn't
[17:55] <jmworx__> thoemmel: then I've seen this page that's supposed to solve the problem: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[17:55] <jmworx__> but I have *not* tried it
[17:55] <kay_> anyone who can help me with firefox and divx movies?
[17:55] <nAhIaN> hello
[17:55] <nAhIaN> I'm new to ubuntu
[17:55] <FFighter> and I have to "sudo /etc/init.d/memcached start" everytime I restart the system
[17:55] <nAhIaN> can anyone tell me how to install new soft in ubuntu ???
[17:55] <xangua> who is having problems with INTEL video card¿¿ , i activated proposed and backport updates and that fixed it, or at least my screen is no freezeng any more (since 3 or 4 days ago)
[17:56] <forensicwannabe> after I updated jaunty, I lost the network manager, does anyone know how to get it back, can I roll back to the previous network manager?
[17:56] <nAhIaN> as like I wanna install yahoo zimbra desktop
[17:56] <thoemmel> i have done that yet
[17:56] <usr13> FFighter: Well then, it's already there?  And the executable bit is set on it?
[17:56] <jmworx__> thoemmel: done what?
[17:56] <FFighter> usr13, yes
[17:56] <thoemmel> installed the new kernel
[17:56] <zpx> ahha, i just modified the sources.list and excluded all the regular sources and the upgrading of only openoffice appears to be working
[17:56] <jmworx__> xangua: I'm having regressions with an intel card. What did you do?
[17:56] <djiezes> !software > nAhIaN
[17:57] <xangua> jmworx__: like i've said i activated proposed and backport updates and that fixed it, or at least my screen is no freezeng any more (since 3 or 4 days ago)
[17:57] <bobsaccamano> has anyone implemented transparency for a drop down terminal window?
[17:57] <Denkzettel>  wubi istallation doesnt work for me, i get "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings" message. can anyone tell me what i do wrong?
[17:57] <PolitikerNEU> xangua: Unfortunately, that is "normal" in jaunty for some intel card users
[17:57] <jmworx__> xangua: Which proposed backport?
[17:57] <bobsaccamano> im using guake..and its just a false transparency
[17:57] <usr13> FFighter: Not sure then, why it is not starting.  Might look ad dmesg for clues
[17:58] <Denkzettel> can anyone please help me?
[17:58] <becase> Is it possible to run a command by sending an email to my ubuntu?
[17:58] <xangua> PolitikerNEU jmworx__ like i've said my problem fixed by activationg the proposed and backport updates
[17:58] <Denkzettel> *wubi* istallation doesnt work for me, i get "writelines() argument must be a sequence of strings" error message. can anyone tell me what i do wrong?
[17:59] <usr13> becase: No
[17:59] <jmworx__> xangua: And your problem was a 3D performance problem or something else?
[17:59] <Denkzettel> is it possible to install wubi at all?
[17:59] <shadow98> hey guys i practicing backup and restore for a web server i just created.....i created backup using tar and then i go to restore it fails and then when i reboot it fails to load system at GRUB
[17:59] <usr13> becase: What are you trying to do?
[17:59] <shadow98> i followed this how to here..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=a99da966fb902976d65ccf59d514e472&t=35087&page=2
[18:00] <xangua> jmworx__: my probmem was that my screen freezed like 3 or 4 times in a sinble day, and now i have no longer have that problem
[18:00] <xangua> also the compiz efects feel more fluid
[18:00] <kadaver> how do I install ndiswrapper?
[18:00] <shadow98> sorry here..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[18:00] <dwxreaper> why does intrepid ibex fail to install the "fake raid"
[18:00] <kadaver> can I install it without internet connection?
[18:00] <forensicwannabe> I lost network manager after updating jaunty. does anyone know how to fix it?
[18:00] <dwxreaper> install create partitions has a greyed out option, like it's corrupt?
[18:00] <kadaver> I have it on USB
[18:00] <jmworx__> xangua: OK, I'll try that in case it helps
[18:01] <joerack> help me please, I'm getting W: GPG error:  with XBMC repo
[18:01] <Denkzettel> is there a channel for wubi anywhere?
[18:01] <usr13> shadow98: The instructions probably omitted MBR
[18:01] <llacroix> #intel-gfx
[18:01] <xangua> Denkzettel: don't use wubi, arg
[18:01] <Pici> Sorry for the spam.
[18:02] <Denkzettel> xangua: nice solution to any problem — "don't"
[18:02] <djiezes> !wubi > Denkzettel
[18:03] <boogawooga> whats the best place ask some general question about ubuntu?
[18:03] <usr13> shadow98: The instructions say that you need to re-install grub
[18:03] <bobsaccamano> boogawooga, this is the place
[18:03] <boogawooga> aah good :)
[18:03] <kadaver> how do I install ndiswrapper? can I install it without internetconnection? I have it on USB.
[18:04] <xangua> kadaver: ndiswrapper and ndisgtk are in the ubuntu cd/dvd
[18:04] <boogawooga> can somebody explain to me what is X11 gnome gtk
[18:04] <akelleh> after upgrading to the latest release, I saw that USB storage devices aren't mounted.  They aren't listed in lsusb or lshal either. any ideas?
[18:04] <bobsaccamano> boogawooga, of course..i assume you have the source/deb package
[18:04] <boogawooga> these are confusin  me a bit
[18:04] <forensicwannabe> I lost networkmanager after update. How can I undo what the update broke. can I use the install cd to fix it?
[18:04] <kadaver> xangua: I installed ubuntu from USB, so should it be there already then?
[18:04] <kadaver> wireless doesn't work for me
[18:04] <bobsaccamano> boogawooga, just plug it in and see if it detects
[18:05] <Denkzettel> djiezes: well what am i supposed to do
[18:05] <xangua> kadaver: mmm i suppose, but i can't hepl you more since i don't know how to use a usb like reposiroty
[18:05] <bobsaccamano> if not, then you'll need to add an entry to fstab
[18:05] <djiezes> Denkzettel: click the link, it says something about helping with troubleshooting.
[18:05] <Denkzettel> djiezes: there is no solution to my problem on this site
[18:05] <kadaver> and since i cant surf at all without it is very annoying since I cant ask for help while trying to install it
[18:05] <boogawooga> bobsaccamano: what do u mean plug it in?
[18:05] <kadaver> but where should ndiswrapper be/ be installed?
[18:06] <usr13> shadow98: dd if=/dev/hda1 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'
[18:06] <bluntman225> can anyone please help me get my sound working? All i hear is a crackingly sound in ubuntu 8.10
[18:06] <boogawooga> i just want to know whats the difference between X11, gnome, GTK
[18:06] <usr13> shadow98: Not fast but it works.
[18:07] <flithm> Hey everyone... I just upgraded to Jaunty.... all is well, except Amarok is suddenly Amarok2.... which sucks massively huge compared to the old amarok.  Is there a way to revert to the old version?
[18:07] <djiezes> !sound > bluntman225
[18:07] <djiezes> flithm: there's a repository for amarok14. search on google with "amarok14 and jaunty". the repos has "bogdan" it it's name.
[18:07] <flithm> djiezes: thanks!
[18:08] <djiezes> flithm: np, t was the first thing i searched for after installing jaunty :)
[18:08] <creative83> Firefox seems to leak a lot of memory in 9.04. For all those people came up with memory problems concerning firefox: Here's the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/358333
[18:09] <shadow0098> how can i restore contents of a tar file and exclude some directories
[18:09] <forensicwannabe> can updates be rolled back in ubuntu?
[18:09] <Denkzettel> !ff
[18:09] <Denkzettel> !firefox
[18:09] <Denkzettel> !mozilla
[18:09] <mac9416> bluntman225: try, "alsamixer -Dhw"
[18:09] <thor1> How do i make grub use my actual resolution (1280x800) instead of 4:3 ratio ones?
[18:09] <efg-> hi i am trying to figure out how to batch rename folders what i got now is : [0513] -some_thing_i_want_to_keep (etc etc) . how would i go about this ?
[18:09] <Denkzettel> is there a way to migrate all addons and bookmarks of my Firefox from windows to ubuntu?
[18:10] <exodus_ms> Using 9.04 with nautilus 2.26.2. I use the "tabs" in nautilus so I can switch quickly from one directory to the other. Is there way to display "hidden" files in one tab but no the others?
[18:10] <Mion> efg-: find
[18:10] <xangua> Denkzettel: FEBE addon
[18:10] <mac9416> bluntman225: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183194#post6183194
[18:10] <efg-> mion ok, brb :)
[18:10] <jrib> efg-: you can use the "rename" command together with some regex knowledge
[18:11] <darkhelmetlive> saiki: i spoke too soon....it's not the wireless it seems....my mouse just stops working! wtf
[18:11] <mac9416> thor1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-119696.html
[18:11] <Mion> find an mv is all you need (maby with some sed, if variable mutation don't handles the complex names
[18:11] <Denkzettel> xangua: no profile backups like in windows?
[18:11] <kaleotter> Hi. I recently bought an acer aspire one and installed Ubuntu over the OS that came bundled with the system, but i'm having some graphics related troubles. The 3d screensavers occasionally come up as wireframes, and blender has an odd hall of mirrors effect in the lower part of the window
[18:12] <Devedse> hey everyone, in ubuntu there's a chess engine named crafty. I read somewhere that you could download a large opening book but i can't find it. Does someone know where to get it?
[18:12] <usr13> Denkzettel: Foxmarks.com
[18:12] <xangua> Denkzettel: use FEBE addon to back up and restore settings like history, prefs, addons, bookmarks, paswords, etc...............
[18:12] <shadow0098> how can i restore contents of a tar file and exclude some directories
[18:12] <mac9416> kaleotter: ATI graphics?
[18:12] <thor1> mac9416: thx
[18:12] <mac9416> thor1: no prob.
[18:13] <kaleotter> Not sure. How do I check?
[18:13] <xangua> For the people having problems with INTEL video card¿¿ , i activated proposed and backport updates and that fixed it, or at least my screen is no freezing any more (since 3 or 4 days ago)
[18:13] <darkhelmetlive> saiki: worst part: there is not PS/2 port so i can't even do that...
[18:13] <nikkiclau> kaleotter: open console and type lspci | grep ATI
[18:13] <mac9416> kaleotter: hmmm
[18:14] <spychalski> so.. every time i reboot flash stops working on firefox, and i have to remove --purge and install again. is there a way to fix that? also, sound always starts mute, is there a way to fix that, as in having it start at 100% every time?
[18:14] <mdi3> @find bluebird one self
[18:14] <ikonia> mdi3: ?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> shadow0098:  tar has an option to exclude.. or ya could use 'mc' and its graphical file manager feature to 'enter' the tar and copy over what you want.
[18:14] <boogawooga> I have 3.5g RAM but it seems around 2 gigs are taken up..but after running top it doesn't seem to add upto 2gig?
[18:14] <akelleh> after upgrading to the latest release, I saw that USB storage devices aren't mounted.  They aren't listed in lsusb or lshal either...any ideas?
[18:14] <boogawooga> is this normal
[18:14] <ikonia> boogawooga: probably just cache, don't worry
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> boogawooga:  people worry too mch about linux and its ram ussage. :) bad windows habbits..  let it alone.
[18:15] <nibbler> boogawooga: what does "free -m" tell you?
[18:16] <boogawooga> nibbler: Mem:          3528       2611        917          0        757       1400
[18:16] <exodus_ms> Using 9.04 with nautilus 2.26.2. I use the "tabs" in nautilus so I can switch quickly from one directory to the other. Is there way to display "hidden" files in one tab but not the others?
[18:16] <kaleotter> It doesnt do anything, just moves back to a blank line
[18:16] <Yanick_> Hi again, I tried everything that I could think of, openjdk is broken and I cannot remove it, reinsall it, and this prevents me from updating, install, upgrading... well, I'm over my head. Can anyone help me fix this?
[18:16] <usr13> shadow0098: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR  might have useful info for you.
[18:16] <efg-> Mion, sudo find . -name '[*]*' -exec rename 's/[*]/' [*]* +    (something like this ?? )
[18:16] <spychalski> so.. every time i reboot flash stops working on firefox, and i have to remove --purge and install again. is there a way to fix that? also, sound always starts mute, is there a way to fix that, as in having it start at 100% every time?
[18:17] <nikkiclau> kaleotter: alright, how about lspci | grep VGA ?
[18:17] <Mion> efg-: no
[18:17] <efg-> :(
[18:17] <mac9416> kaleotter: It looks like the Acer Aspire One has Intel graphics. Tou might try asking at #blender. Those guys know about every bug that ever effected Blender.
[18:17] <sexybaaron> exodus_ms: I don't think so. It is just a state of operation for nautilus. You can use Ctrl-H to quickly switch back and forth.
[18:17] <Mion> use {} to get the name if the match
[18:17] <nibbler> boogawooga: shared, buffers and cache is part of used, you know that? those are not assigned to processes
[18:18] <kaleotter> Intel 945GME
[18:18] <Mion> one thrik is to bind that to a var, then change it as needed
[18:18] <nibbler> boogawooga: so you end up at 400MB used for procs
[18:18] <Yanick_> I tried apt-get -f install, dpkg --configure * (meaning anything, -a, packagename, whatever) but I canot fix the problem
[18:18] <gonzaloaf> hello, how can I go back to the classic pidgin tray icon instead the indicator-applet? I use ubuntu 9.04
[18:18] <nikkiclau> kaleotter: go to #blender as mac9416 said
[18:18] <boogawooga> nibbler: nop didn know that..pretty new here, so i guess its normal
[18:18] <tready29201> Hey All, im trying to kill a process and for some reason it wont stop
[18:18] <nibbler> ummm... shared is connected to procs ofc
[18:18] <efg->  sudo find . -name '[*]*' -exec rename 's/[*]/' [*]* '{}' +   (there ? )
[18:19] <akelleh> try sudo kill -9 <PID>
[18:19] <pronoy_> tready29201: what process is this ?
[18:19] <nibbler> boogawooga: yep, its perfect. linux just makes use of "unused" mem, so you get some performance for your money, even if its not allocated by procs :)
[18:19] <tready29201> i did and it locked the prompt
[18:19] <glitsj16> spychalski: to cure the "muted on reboot" issue you could add a simple script to your session containing "amixer -q set Master 100% unmute &" (that sets your master channel to full volume and unmutes it
[18:19] <exodus_ms> sexybaaron, yeah, that works. Was just wondering if there was a way I could "set" it. To only apply to certain directories. I'm just lazy :P
[18:19] <tready29201> I was using VI to edit a file and it locked
[18:19] <tready29201> so im trying to kill the vi process
[18:19] <u-boot> i'm trying to install lazarus on hardy but synaptic says it depends on libxi6 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu3  but there's only libxi <IP_ADDRESS>-1 available
[18:19] <spychalski> glitsj16: mm, okay
[18:20] <valters> how to set up many users access to one folder and its files?
[18:20] <Mion> like `find . -name '*.py' -exec "foo={} mv $foo ${foo%.txt}" \;` to strip off .py from any files found
[18:20] <spychalski> those are just annoying
[18:20] <Yanick_> "You have 1 broken package on your system!
[18:20] <Yanick_> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it." what does that mean?
[18:20] <kadaver> to develop apps for Ubuntu what tools are recommended?
[18:20] <kadaver> Python? which GUI toolkit? GTK+?
[18:20] <Mion> s/txt/py/
[18:20] <nibbler> valters: unless you use xattribs, put the users in a (new) group, and give rights by group
[18:20] <pronoy_> Yanick_: go to synaptic
[18:20] <exodus_ms> sexybaaron, btw, thanks for responding
[18:20] <Yanick_> pronoy_, the channel?
[18:20] <pronoy_> tready29201: try sudo
[18:20] <boogawooga> nibbler: i see, thanks
[18:21] <pronoy_> Yanick_: no the package manager :)
[18:21] <nibbler> boogawooga: welcome
[18:21] <Yanick_> pronoy_, yes?
[18:21] <glitsj16> spychalski: very much so, i believe it's an alsa configuration issue, but untill you get that fixed, the workaround does fix it
[18:21] <foxbull> hi
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:21] <edbin> hi - tedious has a couple of problems on xubuntu 8.10.  the biggest problem is that whenever she tries to open a file dialog - to open a file, etc, - the application either crashes or freezes.  any ideas?
[18:21] <foxbull> yoyo
[18:21] <spychalski> glitsj16:  thanks.. what about the firefox flash thing?
[18:21] <Steeley> kadaver: you could use any pretty much any toolkit you wanted, but to keep things in line with the rest of the desktop you'd be better with GTK+
[18:21] <tready29201> nope, didnt work
[18:21] <pronoy_> Yanick_: go to the synaptic package manager and go to custom filters and there go to broken filter.......
[18:21] <Yanick_> pronoy_, I was already there
[18:22] <kaleotter> like i said though, its not just limited to blender, it seems to be affecting the screensavers and possibly the desktop screen (occasionally when i mouse down the sidebar, one of the buttons will remain highlighted)
[18:22] <foxbull> ex-chat
[18:22] <pronoy_> tready29201: wierd...
[18:22] <foxbull> "ex-chat"
[18:22] <foxbull> gg
[18:22] <pronoy_> Yanick_: got it ?
[18:22] <glitsj16> spychalski: how did you install flash ? best results seems to be achieved with only the flashplugin-nonfree package installed
[18:22] <rudyy> hi does any one have problem with 9.04 and high temp on hard drive?
[18:22] <ienorand> pronoy_: Yanick_: There's a fix broken packages in the synaptic menu...
[18:22] <foxbull> got i
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> edbin: fsck the drive
[18:22] <foxbull> got you
[18:22] <seith> not yet
[18:22] <Pici> !enter
[18:22] <spychalski> glitsj16: i use that
[18:23] <seith> i use 9.04
[18:23] <edbin> loads of problems with overheating in 9.04
[18:23] <pronoy_> ienorand: he asked about the filter......
[18:23] <tready29201> ok, i still have 2 locked screen those.  if i use alt -> and scroll through the VI and the kill screen wont go back to command prompt
[18:23] <gonzaloaf> hello is it possible to use the old pidgin tray icon in the traybar instead the indicator-applet?
[18:23] <seith> im fine probably is cause i use ubuntu by vmware
[18:23] <shadow0098> Dr_Willis: i don't have gui installed...im doing this all from command line...learning my way through this...i setup a web server and got all my stuff copied over from my windows web server and all is working well.  I then followed this guid to backing up using tar and thing I included to many directories...  I have formated the system and trying to restore backup to make sure I understand procedure...however I think i need to exclude some dir in the restore
[18:24] <glitsj16> spychalski: no other flash-related packages installed like swfdec gnash or anything like that (which could interfere) ?
[18:24] <spychalski> nope, i already removed them
[18:24] <Yanick_> pronoy_, this is what I get, all the time, for everything that I've tried so far, never changed : E: sun-java6-bin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[18:24] <gary> whats the easiest way to get my xubuntu looking like a mac osx?
[18:24] <nikkiclau> Anyone here ever had the issue, or knows how to resolve when one is wanting localization settings such as punctuation and date settings while having the default translation?
[18:24] <nikkiclau> *, that is in gnome
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> gary: http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17073
[18:25] <shadow0098> Dr_Willis: so i am looking for a way to extract the tar files and only include say /home /var /etc and so on
[18:25] <glitsj16> spychalski: no other insights on that flash issue here i'm afraid
[18:25] <ienorand> gonzaloaf: Settings in pidgin plugins I think.
[18:25] <spychalski> :(
[18:25] <rwolfe> shadow0098, do a 'man tar'
[18:25] <tready29201> ok, i think im just going to reboot my server, i hate doing that but oh well
[18:25] <pronoy_> Yanick_: if thats the problem i guess you should do it manually......download the package and install it manually
[18:25] <SFauconnier> /wc/topic
[18:25] <Guest84547> thanks parsnip :D
[18:26] <buzzzzzzz> hi all: I set up samba as a PDC on ubuntu desktop, user logins are very slow, can anyone assist?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> why you'd want to is anyones guess
[18:26] <glitsj16> spychalski: heads up, there's bound to be someone that can help ... there might be a bug on launchpad.net, have you looked around in there yet ?
[18:26] <Guest84547> :) cuz it looks fancy dancy lol
[18:26] <gonzaloaf> ienorand, nothing about it there
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: add the option   socket options = TCP_NODELAY
[18:26] <Yanick_> pronoy_, no, I've tried. When I do so, there are more problems, everytime, for different reasons, I cannot start enumerating all of then! Really, there is no way to just tell it to shut up and fix everything already?
[18:26] <spychalski> glitsj16: no i didnt, just searched on the forums and all issues i could found were related to dist-upgrade
[18:27] <buzzzzzzz> ActionParsnip: can I pm you?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: its in there already, just commented
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> shadow0098:  mc is not a GUI app. its a 'console' file manager.. it can 'enter' and work with tar archives.
[18:27] <spychalski> which all recommended was to remove the current nonfree install and reinstall it.. it works for me, but doing everytime is very annoying
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: thats all there is to it
[18:27] <buzzzzzzz> ActionParsnip: man if that works, you're a legend :)
[18:27] <rudyy> hi does any one have problem with 9.04 and high temp on hard drive?
[18:27] <pronoy_> Yanick_: ok so try this in the terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> shadow0098:  or learn/check the tar man pages.. (but i cheat and use mc normally)
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: its in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:27] <ikonia> rudyy: the OS shouldn't effect the drive temp
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> shadow0098:  mc can treat a tar archive as if it was a directory.
[18:27] <Yanick_> pronoy_, why is openjdk installed anyway? I've never. I had any problem with Sun's packages. I've just installed Ubuntu 9.04 this morning and OpenJDK screwed the whole thing up
[18:28] <Yanick_> pronoy_, I can do it again, but I've tried a couple of times already
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: surely it would if its running it at full rpm unnecessarily
[18:28] <gonzaloaf> hello is it possible to use the old pidgin tray icon in the traybar instead the indicator-applet?
[18:28] <rudyy> ikonia: but hard drive works all the time with no hard process running
[18:28] <pronoy_> Yanick_: beats me....i am still on intrepid and thats rock solid....i too never had a problem with jdk......
[18:28] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I suppose that could effect it, but not take it beyond stress
[18:28] <efg-> Mion, i can't get it to work :(
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: true
[18:29] <xangua> gonzaloaf: jus activate the pidgin icon in preferences
[18:29] <Yanick_> pronoy_, should I paste you the big chunk of error it returned?
[18:29] <xangua> .............
[18:29] <buzzzzzzz> ActionParsnip: no worries, it was already enabled, i disabled the SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 though because of them showed up as being unrecognised in the samba logs.
[18:29] <gonzaloaf> xangua, thanks
[18:29] <Yanick_> pronoy_, OpenJDK plainly sucks
[18:29] <nilo_> hello
[18:29] <donald> can somebody help me with a problem I have
[18:29] <ienorand> gonzaloaf: Sorry, it's in main pidgrin preferences
[18:29] <Yanick_> I just tried to remove it because it was causing problems with eclipse and now the whole thing is screwed
[18:29] <gonzaloaf> ienorand, yes I already done
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: thats the only thing i added to mine and its fine....
[18:30] <seith> ````````````````````````````.....................5553
[18:30] <ikonia> seith: ?
[18:30] <jbuncher> apw:  A while ago I put up the lsmod info for the various kernels you had me test for bug #327431 .  If you could let me know how to proceed, I'd be more than willing to help with additional testing.  Thanks for your time on this bug so far, it's greatly appreciated.
[18:30] <th0r_> I have a usb drive that is presently unreadable. I used fdisk to delete the partition and recreate it, but can't remember the package that allows me to format the partition
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: http://pastebin.com/f60d15ff6
[18:30] <ikonia> th0r_: there isn't a package, you may want the tool gparted to make it simple
[18:30] <donald> can someone help?
[18:30] <Yanick_> even when I try to remove it like sudo apt-get -f remove openjdk* it does not work
[18:30] <ikonia> donald: if you ask a question, we can try
[18:30] <allquixotic> How do I disable the effect where the screen slowly starts to fade to black during inactivity?
[18:31] <efg-> donald, just ask your question :p
[18:31] <pronoy_> Yanick_: try removing the package and then reinstalling it ? i seriously can't think of anything else....i bet someone more experienced will swoop in
[18:31] <th0r_> ikonia: there is a package called dosutils, or mutils or some such....at least there used to be
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> buzzzzzzz: i added the bottom lines and enabled te tcp options
[18:31] <ikonia> th0r_: oh, you want to put a microsoft file system on it
[18:31] <Yanick_> pronoy_, I cannot remove or install. I cannot update, and I cannot do anything without the damn openjdk package to pop up
[18:31] <th0r_> ikonia: yeah...fat16 or fat32....so others can read it
[18:31] <edbin> hi - how do i run fsck so that it does it safely - i keep getting warnings about running it on a mounted file system
[18:31]  * efg- doesnt look forward at manually renaming hundreds of directories :(
[18:31] <donald> lol, sorry, yeah so whn I try and play a video anywhere, this huge Play button come up and it's the same on deezer.com, huge play buttons come up and nothing works well
[18:31] <buzzzzzzz> ActionParsnip: I'll give it another go with those options
[18:32] <buzzzzzzz> ActionParsnip: thanks, either way :)
[18:32] <nilo_> hey does anyone know the details for ZaNet?
[18:32] <donald> works...plays*
[18:32] <pronoy_> Yanick_: ok just repost the question
[18:32] <ikonia> nilo_: that's offtopic here
[18:32] <Jupp> th0r_, he's right: gparted should be able to help you
[18:32] <nilo_> oh ok
[18:32] <nilo_>  sorry
[18:32] <kareem> hello
[18:32] <kareem> Anyone familiar with building packages?
[18:32] <ikonia> kareem: just ask your question
[18:32] <nanbanjin> question: I have some japanese pdfs that evince is not able to display correctly - it just shows the english part of it and no japanese character is visible. Acrobat for Linux displays it ok but I don't want to istall it just to one a few documents. Is there any way to make evince work with them?
[18:32] <Yanick_> pronoy_, the question was, how can I fix/remove a package that won't get removed by dpkg or apt-get?
[18:32] <th0r_> Jupp: installing it now...thank Ikonia
[18:33] <ienorand> kareem: look at the motu guides
[18:33] <kareem> I get the following "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on g++-4.2" when I install I package I ame.  the g++ I have listed as a dependency.
[18:33] <kareem> My apt-get install dies at that point.
[18:33] <ienorand> kareem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training
[18:33] <edbin> hi - how do i run fsck so that it does it safely - i keep getting warnings about running it on a mounted file system
[18:33] <donald> Problem:  lol, sorry, yeah so whn I try and play a video anywhere, this huge Play button come up and it's the same on deezer.com, huge play buttons come up and nothing plays well
[18:33] <savid> Is it possible to "downgrade" compiz to an earlier version?
[18:33] <Devedse> how muh mb ram does ubuntu 9.04 needs to install?
[18:33] <ikonia> edbin: run it from a livecd
[18:34] <ikonia> savid: not really
 i have some problems connecting to the university wifi (WEP) <gon>: I can't understand why, in 8.10 works fine <gon>: apparently does not receive ip from dhcp, and finally gives timeout, <gon>: What information can I get to help with this error?
[18:34] <ikonia> Devedse: 256mb is the minimum
[18:34] <edbin> ok, thanks
[18:34] <savid> boo
[18:34] <engemec> Hello everybody!
[18:34] <Yanick_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016219