[12:15] <topyli> HappyFool: yeah, there's only about 130 people on #ubuntu-devel :)
[12:15] <PurpleMotion> ORiON2012:  thats exactly how i capitalized the hostname for my irc server ;)
[12:15] <abyss> please anyone help me the sounds works but after reboot ot wont work :/
[12:15] <oceandead> gnomebaker, k3b, etc etc
[12:15] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: not sure I follow you
[12:15] <PurpleMotion> nvm
[12:15] <HappyFool> topyli: ok, my mistake
[12:15] <thoreauputic> topyli: but no one has spoken for 45 minutes
[12:15] <dmoyne> Hello ! ; Is Brezy installable !
[12:15] <vot3> can someoen explain to me how wine works?
[12:16] <topyli> idlers and slackers
[12:16] <abyss> Rhytmbox say cannot open ressource for write access
[12:16] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: you weren't referring to the group were you?
[12:16] <weejamer> how do i burn mp3 to a cd (am a new linux user)
[12:17] <vot3> ORiON2012: after i edit her .bashrc file this way is there any service i would need to restart for the changes to take effect?
[12:17] <PurpleMotion> no i was referring to my old irc server, though i have *coughaffiliationscough* with the group as well
[12:17] <topyli> weejamer: do you want an audio cd or just burn the mp3 files on a data cd?
[12:17] <vot3> ORiON2012: because i edited that file and it still does not work
[12:17] <mrttm> hi all
[12:17] <mrttm> I need your help now
[12:17] <weejamer> audio cd toyli
[12:17] <mrttm> I'm a newbie with ubuntu
[12:17] <mrttm> I'm impressed by ubuntu
[12:18] <weejamer> topyli sorry audio cd
[12:18] <abyss> what i have to use for deinstall a module?
[12:18] <abyss> what ive installed via insmod
[12:18] <mrttm> I have probs with my Davicom  NIC card
[12:18] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: I swear it's just a coincidence,a lthough I wish it wasn't
[12:18] <mrttm> i've read through the forum
[12:18] <thoreauputic> mrttm: just ask - if someone can help they will
[12:18] <topyli> weejamer: i use serpentine. gnomebaker should work too
[12:18] <oceandead> well well
[12:18] <mrttm> but I couldn;t found how to solve this probs
[12:18] <bz0b> so is ubuntu really the most popular distro at the moment?
[12:18] <bimberi> abyss: rmmod
[12:18] <ORiON2012> vot3: I just sourced my bashrc and it worked
[12:19] <topyli> abydos: rmmod
[12:19] <bz0b> or is it just the most used?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> bz0b: according to distrowatch, yes
[12:19] <oceandead> imo, best distro around
[12:19] <bz0b> thoreauputic, yes, i saw that
[12:19] <thoreauputic> bz0b: not the most used
[12:19] <weejamer> thanx topyli i will give it a try
[12:19] <vot3> ORiON2012: sourced it?
[12:19] <dmoyne> Please is "Breezy" installable ?
[12:19] <vot3> ORiON2012: what does that mean?>
[12:19] <mrttm> anyone can help me
[12:19] <ORiON2012> source ~/.bashrc
[12:19] <bz0b> yes, imo too, i actually am using kubuntu, but there really isnt much diffrence
[12:19] <bz0b> it was wierd
[12:19] <oceandead> dmoyne, it hasnt been released yet - tell ya anything?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: installable, yes. Usable maybe
[12:19] <abyss> damn y my soundserver cannot play sound now?
[12:19] <mrttm> I can't access to anywhre, my LAN, Internet
[12:20] <topyli> bz0b: well it's the most viewed distro page on distrowatch. we don't know what that means really
[12:20] <bz0b> unbuntu was freezing on me at times
[12:20] <bz0b> topyli, true
[12:20] <Sp4rKy> anyone can help me please
[12:20] <bz0b> topyli, what do you use?
[12:20] <topyli> bz0b: distro? ubuntu
[12:20] <bz0b> and what is the "best" distro in your opinion, and why?
[12:21] <HappyFool> mrttm: what hardware do you have? What version of ubuntu have you installed? Please give us more details
[12:21] <ORiON2012> bz0b: windows? :P
[12:21] <weejamer> topyli  i got to a stage where i am about to burn thanx for that
[12:21] <thoreauputic> bz0b: oh, we really think buntu sucks - that's why we're here ;)
[12:21] <oceandead> hahaha
[12:21] <jonko> zijn er nederlanders hier
[12:21] <jonko> ?
[12:21] <dmoyne> ok thanks last time I tried it I experienced problems with Xorg and therefore I prefer to wait ! ; maybe one question when you install something new like this and it does not work how can you back up to you last good installation set-up with apt ?
[12:21] <bz0b> thoreauputic, exactly ;-)
[12:21] <HappyFool> !start a distro war
[12:21] <ubotu> kubuntu rules over mandriva
[12:21] <mrttm> HappyFool, I use Hoary U5.04
[12:21] <topyli> bz0b: i like ubuntu on the desktop. it's like a stable version of debian unstable that i used earlier :)
[12:21] <srid> ubotu, test
[12:21] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:21] <bz0b> topyli, and 1 cd!
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !distrowar
[12:22] <ubotu> ubuntu is better than yggdrasil !!
[12:22] <ORiON2012> lol
[12:22] <mrttm> my NIC is Davicom Semiconductor
[12:22] <abyss> i had before i rebooted 2 sounddevices
[12:22] <srid> somebody say my nick
[12:22] <shortcircuit> required update to kernel 2.6.10-34.4 broke my sound
[12:22] <abyss> now i have only a alsa
[12:22] <weejamer> srid
[12:22] <oceandead> my nick
[12:22] <srid> ok
[12:22] <weejamer> oceandead
[12:22] <mikhail^> has anybody had any success in building dynamic library projects with Anjuta in Hoary?
[12:22] <topyli> bz0b: yep. though i'd rather install from the net
[12:23] <HappyFool> mrttm: that is a normal network card? (i.e., ethernet)
[12:23] <topyli> bz0b: oh, and ubuntu always has the latest gnome! that's pretty important
[12:23] <mrttm> yes
[12:23] <ORiON2012> if you really can't find a distro you like then try LFS and leave all other distro chans and forums alone
[12:23] <mrttm> I've look around the forum
[12:23] <jonko> hallo
[12:23] <mrttm> and found mayny people had the same probs
[12:24] <HappyFool> jonko: #ubuntu-nl vir nederlands
[12:24] <vot3> ORiON2012: i sourced bonnie's .bashrc file inculding the umask command and the files i copy over vie scp are still locked to me in nautilus, can you explain why?
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, how do I do that from the install cd?
[12:24] <mrttm> but no one give the complete solution
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, since I really wanted to install from the net
[12:24] <ORiON2012> vot3: no, I cannot
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, then it allows you to choose the packages you wnat right? and are up-to-date
[12:24] <mikhail^> vot3: are you copying it as root into your user's directory?
[12:25] <dmoyne> What is LFS ?
[12:25] <ORiON2012> linux from scratch
[12:25] <ORiON2012> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[12:25] <HappyFool> mrttm: your card is not listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[12:25] <rob^> linux for suckers
[12:25] <vot3> mikhail^: i do not think so. these are files she left in a directory inside of her home directory for me. but my user does not automatically have write access to files and folders in her home dir, and that is what i want
[12:25] <dmoyne> yes but when you have it installed how di you find packages you have to recompile everything ?
[12:26] <mrttm> no no, I think it's supported
[12:26] <topyli> bz0b: it's not supported
[12:26] <mrttm> because ubuntu can recorgnize this
[12:26] <topyli> bz0b: at least in hoary
[12:26] <HappyFool> mrttm: ok, so what isn't working? I'm still not really sure what your problem is
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, huh?
[12:27] <mrttm> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54886&highlight=davicom
[12:27] <topyli> bz0b: net install
[12:27] <mikhail^> vot3: you're going to have to add write and read permissions to 1) her home directory and then 2) the diectory you want to have access to.
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, oh
[12:27] <mrttm> you can read this topic
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, is it possible to do a net install though?
[12:27] <mrttm> this is my probs as the guy : Underxp
[12:27] <mikhail^> vot3: or, your and her user should be in the same group at least.
[12:27] <topyli> bz0b: i don't think so
[12:27] <ORiON2012> bz0b: hoary is pretty dated, so is breezy (but not nearly as much), if you want cutting edge try gentoo or debian sid, or LFS
[12:27] <vot3> mikhail^: ok, then what is the -R switch used for in chmod?
[12:28] <vot3> mikhail^: can it just be a mde up group that they are both in?
[12:28] <mikhail^> vot3: man chmod
[12:28] <Dejavu> hey does anyone know where i can get Game Installers ? (linux installers)
[12:28] <rob^> Dejavu, loki games
[12:28] <mrttm> I do as the blind0wl said
[12:28] <topyli> bz0b: hoary is hardly "dated" :)
[12:28] <mrttm> but still not work
[12:29] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/
[12:29] <mrttm> and I still don't  now how to reload module dmfe in kernel
[12:29] <topyli> bz0b: sorry, talking to ORiON2012
[12:29] <mrttm> because when I remove the tulip module
[12:29] <thoreauputic> topyli: OMG MY APPS ARE 6 MONTHS OLD ! WTF ???
[12:29] <Dejavu> rob^: aaa ... i dont think its working .. it says no connection to Databasr
[12:29] <mrttm> the eth0 config disappear
[12:29] <rob^> Dejavu, well it was working the other day, try again later
[12:29] <ORiON2012> topyli: compared to debian sarge, sure, compared to gentoo's package tree, it is
[12:29] <vot3> mikhail^: so if i used chmod -R on her home directory i would not normall have to worry about teh dir in her home dir where the files i want to change are, would i?
[12:29] <topyli> thoreauputic: heh. some things like evince are old though
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:30] <ORiON2012> topyli: but I'd never switch
[12:30] <abyss> lo i found the problem anyone can show me what stands in your /etc/modprobe.conf?
[12:30] <Dejavu> rob^: will do .. maybe they are updating or something :D
[12:30] <rob^> maybe
[12:30] <HappyFool> mrttm: how about the pci=noacpi line?
[12:30] <Dejavu> aaa...  anyother place i can find some installers ?   :D
[12:30] <topyli> ORiON2012: i care about gnome most, and ubuntu is the most up to date on that front. i think 2.10 has just now hit sid
[12:31] <mikhail^> vot3: if you do that on her home directoy, the changes will be made recursively in all her files and directories in her home directory.
[12:31] <mrttm> yes
[12:31] <mrttm> i've tried but still not work :(
[12:31] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:31] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/
[12:31] <ORiON2012> for the second time
[12:31] <vot3> mikhail^: ok, now would an scp file transfer or ssh login do anything to change those permissions? because that is what has been happening. i set the mode i want and then she logs in and transfers files and they ignore the mode i have set, they are locked to me.
[12:31] <Michael> how to  Define modprobe.conf ?
[12:31] <mrttm> HappyFool, how can I reload the module of kernel
[12:31] <HappyFool> mrttm: try 'modprobe'
[12:32] <mrttm> I tried
[12:32] <HappyFool> mrttm: i'm not sure exactly what you mean, though
[12:32] <abyss> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d
[12:32] <HappyFool> mrttm: what module do you want to load?
[12:32] <abyss> how i can fix that?
[12:32] <Dackel> hello
[12:32] <Dackel> i have a question
[12:32] <mrttm> dmfe
[12:32] <mrttm> I removed tulip module
[12:32] <HappyFool> ok
[12:32] <mrttm> and want to reload dmfe module
[12:32] <HappyFool> isn't it already loaded?
[12:32] <mrttm> like wbeck did
[12:33] <HappyFool> lsmod|grep dmfe will tell you
[12:33] <mikhail^> vot3: well, it depends... if her user has a .bashrc that resets her permissions (or umask), then yes, that'll happen.
[12:33] <Dackel> Grub is in the ass and now i don't know, how I can boot Ubuntu for repair Grub
[12:33] <mrttm> yes
[12:33] <mrttm> still have dmfe
[12:33] <mrttm> and not tulip
[12:33] <mrttm> but the eth0 still can't not appear
[12:33] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:33] <mrttm> util I do modprobe tulip again
[12:33] <vot3> mikhail^: well i added the line: umask 000 to her .bashrc but it has not helped. is there some service i need to restart first?
[12:33] <HappyFool> try 'modprobe -r dmfe' and then 'modprobe dmfe'
[12:33] <Pega> Hmm. I am having problems with apt-get install. It goes well, finds everything, tells me that after extracting x amount of space will be used and asks me to continue (y/n). I press y and then it stops, like I would have pressed n. :|
[12:34] <mrttm> ahha
[12:34] <mrttm> yes, i'll try now
[12:34] <Dejavu> is there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?
[12:35] <mikhail^> vot3: is the copying the files over from somewhere into her home directory? or is she copying from that directory down to her remote location?
[12:35] <mosh> woo hoo
[12:35] <mosh> finaly
[12:35] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. have you run 'apt-get update' recently ? (just a guess)
[12:35] <mosh> so is Ubuntu good for a novice linux user?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> vot3: this all seems rather tortuous - if you have read access to her dir you can scp the files to your own home dir and the permissions will say they belong to you
[12:35] <Pega> HappyFool, hmm. Not for a while. Installed updates from the button in the corner of the screen.
[12:35] <Dackel> or should I do a re-install?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> then you can write to them...
[12:35] <mrttm> HappyFool
[12:36] <mrttm> I've success
[12:36] <mrttm> thanks
[12:36] <mrttm> I'm so stupid
[12:36] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: I think it's preserving perms and for some reason umask isn't being set, worked for me in my bash scenario, bot won't work for vo3.
[12:36] <mrttm> I tried to find how to reload module
[12:36] <Dackel> Thanks for your answers, you ass hole
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: not at all
[12:36] <Hobbsee> mosh:  yes, it's great for a newbie - i installed it about 2 days ago, and am loving it...
[12:36] <mrttm> reload = stop -> start
[12:36] <mrttm> I'm so stupid
[12:36] <mrttm> thanks again
[12:36] <Dackel> +s
[12:36] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: how about restarting the ssh server?
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: you may want to 'blacklist' the tulip module somehow -- i'm not sure how that's done
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: glad i could help
[12:37] <mosh> Awsome
[12:37] <mosh> I just need to get this going and get Halflife2 running;)
[12:37] <Evan> im having problems installing the PHP server
[12:37] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: couldn't hurt, but I really have no idea why it works fine for me and not for vot3
[12:37] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. ok, try running 'sudo apt-get update' at the command line, and try again
[12:37] <mrttm> yes
[12:37] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: all I did was add the umask and source my bashrc and it worked
[12:37] <mosh> whats best... the DVD or the CD instal???
[12:37] <srijith> !lamp
[12:37] <mrttm> but now I must do it all the time I start the machine ?
[12:37] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:37] <mrttm> or I can't remove it permanent ?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> mosh: the best bit's the community support - you'd never find all this for windows...google does find things, but not as much as it does for ubuntu
[12:38] <mrttm> or I can remove it permanent ?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> mosh: either, makes no difference
[12:38] <HappyFool> ORiON2012, vot3: could be the windows scp client (complete guess)
[12:38] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: maybe he has multiple umask statements in his .bashrc file
[12:38] <ORiON2012> vot3: are you using WinSCP?
[12:38] <mosh> ok yeah i figure its the best way to go since i have 939 Venice core..
[12:38] <ORiON2012> mikhail^ & HappyFool : both are certainly possible
[12:39] <Pega> HappyFool, didn't help
[12:39] <HappyFool> mrttm: maybe add 'tulip' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist -- i'm not sure that's right
[12:39] <mosh> im going to guess linux HL2 sucks though because of wine...
[12:39] <mrttm> yes
[12:39] <mrttm> tks
[12:39] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. and no error message?
[12:39] <ORiON2012> mosh: not really, I haven't noticed any difference between my windows andlinux boxes
[12:39] <mrttm> i'll find myself
[12:40] <mosh> I normaly get like 200 fps in windows...
[12:40] <Hobbsee> mosh: why dont you try and see?  dual boot it...
[12:40] <mrttm> to improve my stupid mind
[12:40] <bz0b> see yall soon
[12:40] <mrttm> if I had a probs again
[12:40] <mosh> lol version me.
[12:40] <mrttm> I'll ask you
[12:40] <mrttm> do you have YM nick ?
[12:41] <Pega> HappyFool, nothing. Just "Do you want to continue (y/n)?" and whatever I press, it acts if I had pressed n.
[12:41] <mosh> Im running the live version
[12:41] <mosh> lol
[12:42] <akanja> Hi everybody!
[12:42] <vot3> ORiON2012: i am using winsco to test the downloads, but no, i am trying to just use nautilus to move the files into MY home dir after she has uploaded them into HER  home dir from her remote location
[12:42] <DarkRaika> hi
[12:42] <Dejavu> is there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?
[12:42] <mrttm> goodbye and tks again, HappyFool
[12:42] <akanja> anybody ready to guide me a bit through 'hoary sound hell' :-) ?
[12:43] <HappyFool> mrttm: cheers
[12:43] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: vlc
[12:43] <HappyFool> Pega: and if you just hit enter?
[12:43] <vot3> the thing is i ghave to keep changing and keep changing these modes everytime a new file comes in
[12:43] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, should i do "apt-get install vlc" ?  and will it automatically start when i click on the stream button ?
[12:44] <vot3> instead of the permissions on the file being what i want them to be
[12:44] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: what is this magical steram button you speak of?
[12:44] <Pega> HappyFool, you just made me a happy fool. :)
[12:44] <Pega> It is alive!
[12:44] <thoreauputic> vot3: then as I said. all you need is read access - if you scp the files as yourself the ownership will change to your user, which means you can then write to them - have I missed something? Works here...
[12:44] <Pega> Or sumthing. works anyways. thx
[12:45] <HappyFool> heh. still, a bit odd. you'd think y would work
[12:45] <ORiON2012> vot3: sorry but I'm out of ideas, it works for me, doesn't for you, its either a client issue or something wrong with .bashrc (assuming that's the file you put it in)
[12:45] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, i mean when i get accros a video that can be directly streamed (or viewed) so i dont have to download it
[12:45] <vot3> ORiON2012: i think it should be working too, what you suggested. do i need to source the .bashrc file as root?
[12:46] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: how wide of a network are you looking to stream to? over the internet? or just a lan?
[12:46] <vot3> thoreauputic: i have no reason to scp the files as my user, it is useless. i have nautilus
[12:46] <HappyFool> the .bashrc file should be consulted everytime your girlfriend runs scp
[12:46] <ORiON2012> as whatever user you are transfering the files as, ~/ will apply to whatever user you are currently acting as
[12:46] <thoreauputic> vot3: *cough* it's the same whether you do it in nautlus or CLI
[12:46] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, ill send u a link .. maybe that can help me explain :)
[12:46] <HappyFool> vot3: try testing it yourself, using scp to copy to localhost; maybe you can debug it that way
[12:47] <vot3> well i am running winscp under wine to test the file transfers, that is what i have been doing
[12:47] <vot3> every file i send over has the incorrect permissions when it lands in nautilus
[12:47] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:47] <HappyFool> ok, try just 'scp' from the command-line? same thing?
[12:47] <akanja> I installed hoary on a machine with a soundblaster 128, (plus an i810 onboard sound) . The SB128 turned out to be faulty, so i ripped out of the box and re-enabled the onboard sound  in BIOS. But can't get the sound working.... Read the wiki, searched google.... and got lost in all the contradicting and outdated information, hmmm
[12:48] <zerboxx> Does anyone here use linksysmon??
[12:48] <ORiON2012> vot3: Is WinSCP proven to be fully functional under wine?  This could be part of the problem
[12:48] <ORiON2012> vot3: Why not use scp fromt he commad line to test?
[12:48] <vot3> everything i have ever used under wine has been perfect
[12:48] <vot3> ORiON2012: i am not familiar with scp
[12:49] <vot3> i am more comfortable with a gui, as well
[12:49] <topyli> vot3: you hardly need winscp to use scp on linux
[12:49] <ORiON2012> vot3: man scp, its' really easier than you think
[12:49] <HappyFool> scp src localhost:/home/vot3/dst
[12:49] <vot3> thoreauputic: i was testing it out for her, because she uses windows and i wanted to make sure it would work
[12:50] <thoreauputic> vot3: ahh - OK my bad :)
[12:50] <topyli> vot3: gftp can use ssh too
[12:50] <HappyFool> just use scp to test -- i.e., to check if the problem is winscp or your server setup
[12:50] <ORiON2012> vot3: I assure you that winscp works flawlessly under windows, we can
[12:50] <ORiON2012> can't make that assumption for linux
[12:50] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, goto "www.bbcworld.com/clickonline"  ... check the link on the middle left side .. it says winmeadia "low,med,high". the whole show can be viewed from the site ..
[12:51] <Brainbug> Question: Is there guide for "visual programming" under ubuntu? I come from a visual studio background and i'm looking something similar. The languaje can be either C/C++ or C#.
[12:51] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: it's probably windows media player 9, if you figure out an easy way to make it work, let me know
[12:52] <catfox> morning all. i'm just starting to use glade, and i've got a problem.
[12:52] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, lolz .. will do :)  .. thanks for helpin tough !
[12:52] <catfox> i've added a toolbar, and i want the buttons to align to the right, like regular gnome apps. but i can only get them on the left of the window. does anyone know how to get them on the right?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> vot3: re: GUI - you can drag and drop files over scp/sftp using nautilus - just type ssh://user@hostname
[12:53] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: you can't use helix or relaplayer to play the stream?
[12:53] <vot3> thoreauputic: i am not the one making the connection though, she is. all i need is for the files she uploads to have the correct permissions so i do not have to chmod everytime she uploads something
[12:53] <milksteak> mplayer plugin for firefox should work
[12:54] <iba> what do i do.. i put the install cd in and i get kernel panic - attempted to kill init!
[12:54] <vot3> i am doing something wrong, the umask command will work when i figure out what it is
[12:54] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, ive tried realplayer .. it does works .. but on somesites it dosent (winmed9 is req). i havent tried helix so far
[12:54] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: I take that back, works fine in mplayer-plug-in
[12:54] <vot3> i do not understand the point of 'sourcing' a file though
[12:54] <vot3> that is where i went wrong
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu:  sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:55] <HappyFool> vot3: you don't need to source the file, unless you want to test it
[12:55] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, np .. i was just checkin the ubuntu unofficial guide . and in it there is an mplayer plugin ... ill try that and if successful , ill let u know :)
[12:55] <urezin> halt
[12:55] <HappyFool> vot3: it should get 'sourced' when the connection is made
[12:55] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, yeah .. thats the one ..
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: ignore that, I'm on breezy, I keep forgetting
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: oh, nvm then
[12:55] <hexion> hello
[12:56] <topyli> vot3: the environment specified by bashrc only takes hold at new shells or after sourcing the file
[12:56] <iba> anyoner?
[12:56] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, lolz .. u need a soda break ;)
[12:56] <vot3> topyli: the connection from winscp would be considered a new shell though right?
[12:56] <hexion> when I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???
[12:56] <Brainbug> It's there a guide to helping making programs for the ubuntu project?
[12:56] <HappyFool> vot3: fwiw, samba has a 'force create mode' option, which will let you specify a mode for files it creates
[12:56] <ORiON2012> vot3: I only sourced the file because I was in a terminal, I (stupidly) assumed you were too
[12:57] <volvoguy> is anyone else having problems with the new kernel that showed up in hoary recently?
[12:57] <iba> ..
[12:57] <vot3> ORiON2012: actually i am in a terminal.
[12:57] <volvoguy> my system won't even boot now. :(
[12:57] <topyli> vot3: i have no idea :)
[12:57] <hexion> please somebody help me :(
[12:57] <hexion> when I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???
[12:57] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: nah, I just need another lugradio eps to keep me calm
[12:58] <HappyFool> hexion: are you following the instructions on the wiki?
[12:58] <HappyFool> !ati
[12:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:58] <hexion> ok, Ill read it. Thanks
[12:58] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: ubotu is your best friend :)
[12:59] <hexion> I'm new in ubuntu, I come from suse and its all different :)
[12:59] <HappyFool> nah, he's got too much attitude ;)
[12:59] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: I noticed, Ubuntu, the hippy of linux has a rude bot...
[12:59] <hexion> thanks a lot, I read it and come back to tell you if I solved it or if I need your help :)
[01:00] <HappyFool> hexion: cool. it should work ;)
[01:00] <hexion> one last thing..
[01:00] <hexion> I downloaded a -bin file (50 MB) from ati.com
[01:01] <hexion> should I better do an app-get?
[01:01] <ORiON2012> ok, this is depressing me, does anyone have advice for vot3?
[01:01] <HappyFool> my word of advice is to use samba instead
[01:01] <HappyFool> create an anonymous, wolrd-writeable share
[01:02] <dockane> hi all
[01:02] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: oh, vot3 left
[01:02] <Dejavu> by everyone .. and thanks for the help :)
[01:02] <HappyFool> or alternatively, create a restricted share and use the 'force create mode' option
[01:02] <HappyFool> ah well
[01:02] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: is she upploading files to *his* home dir, or to an accoun of her own? If the second, he can read her files in her home dir on his box and cp them to his own home dir to change the ownership - I think he has it all backwards
[01:03] <hexion> I think Ill follow the wiki instructions and make an app-get (I suppose the 50 MB of the .bin file will go to the trash)
[01:03] <HappyFool> he wanted to move the files, not just copy them
[01:03] <reiki> can someone check www.yardbird.net and see if it's up? And is there a general network outage in the US .... possibly great lakes area?
[01:03] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: he's downloading files to her home, which he loggged in as whie testing, but he couldn't read those files from HIS home
[01:03] <dockane> i am looking for a way to make the updates indicated by the 2 red arrow circle in the upper right corner of gnome install automagically and silently. whats the best way ?
[01:04] <zerboxx> If I want to run a program every 30 minutes, how would I do this (I've read to use cron, but I have no idea what I'm to do)?????
[01:04] <hexion> Im loving ubuntu... theres no comparison with suse
[01:04] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: but with the correct umask it shuldn't matter... right
[01:04] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: but *nix quite rightly doesn't allow users to move other people's files
[01:04] <topyli> reiki: yardbird seems to be down
[01:04] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: yeah, his higher-level requirements were a bit fuzzy. i'm also not sure why he chose scp over samba
[01:05] <thoreauputic> *shrug*
[01:05] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: you did say while she's logged in, right?
[01:05] <hexion> I have to reboot. Thanks happyfool
[01:05] <hexion> bye
[01:05] <HappyFool> good luck
[01:05] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: I thought he logged in AS her
[01:05] <reiki> topyli: thanks.. very weird
[01:06] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: If she doesn't log out and log in again, the .bashrc wouldn't take effect
[01:06] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: logged in as her via winscp wine, then tried to copy the files via nautilus ( his real user)
[01:06] <ORiON2012> I just thought the whole winscp was a bit weird
[01:06] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: I don't mean to be rude, but I think PEBCAK in his case
[01:07] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: I have no comment senator
[01:07] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: heh ;)
[01:08] <funkyHat> how can i enable system sounds without locking up alsa (i have software mixing set up, but still gnome locks up the soundcard)
[01:13] <andre80> hi
[01:13] <andre80> i m andre from indonesia
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hi andre
[01:13] <andre80> hi hobbsee
[01:14] <andre80> i m new to ubuntu, i just received my cd today
[01:14] <andre80> I connected to internet via bluetooth modem
[01:14] <thoreauputic> andre80: welcome :)
[01:14] <andre80> will anybody tell what should I download so that I can connect to internet
[01:14] <andre80> rite now I m stil using my windows box
[01:15] <andre80> I happen to like ubuntu and planning to migrate as soon as possible
[01:15] <abyss> exists anywhere a memory managing prog for ubuntu?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> abyss: well, yes - it's called the linux kernel I believe...
[01:16] <thoreauputic> abydos: what do you mean "memory managing" ?
[01:17] <Frafra> hi all
[01:17] <andre80> hi Frafra
[01:17] <thoreauputic> abyss: sorry that was for you not abydos
[01:17] <Frafra> I've read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:18] <Frafra> then... i've try to install qemu (with apt-get):
[01:18] <Frafra> [...]
[01:18] <Frafra> Preconfiguring packages ...
[01:18] <Frafra> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file
[01:18] <Frafra> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:18] <Frafra> who can help me?
[01:18] <andre80> about bluetooth modem ...
[01:18] <satafterh> hello everyone
[01:18] <abyss> thoreauputic, cause if i start the system and all was started it use 200mb of memory and 100mb free
[01:19] <abyss> but if i start some progs and end it again the memory wont be free
[01:19] <satafterh> where can I download the lastest stable kernel and what verson would that be??
[01:19] <thoreauputic> abyss: linux handles all that
[01:20] <_mario> where can i get spamassassin from?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> abyss: it uses as much memory as possible -RAM is orders of magnitude more efficient than disc
[01:20] <_mario> do i have to add an additional apt-source?
[01:20] <abyss> thoreauputic,  it cannot be that my systems eat with no use 305MB memory
[01:20] <funkyHat> andre80, it looks like noone knows, can you give us some more info about the modem? like a model number or manufacturer?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> abyss: most of what you see is cache and buffers
[01:20] <HappyFool> _mario: it's in universe
[01:21] <_mario> HappyFool: that means? what to do for me?
[01:21] <HappyFool> !repos
[01:21] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:21] <HappyFool> mario: read those two links; they should help. let us know if they don't
[01:21] <_mario> HappyFool: oki
[01:21] <andre80> !repos
[01:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:21] <andre80> !bluetooth
[01:21] <ubotu> andre80: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:22] <andre80> !driver
[01:22] <ubotu> andre80: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:22] <HappyFool> andre80: try '/query ubotu' if you want to ask the bot lots of questions
[01:22] <andre80> thx
[01:23] <andre80> I just recognize that ubotu is a bot
[01:23] <HappyFool> andre80: also looke on https://wiki.ubuntu.com, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex for more info
[01:23] <thoreauputic> abyss: type " free -m " in a terminal and read the cache and buffers - subtract to get a better idea of your memory use
[01:23] <HappyFool> you may find info about your hardware there
[01:23] <satafterh> I have an amd atlon 2600+ running a 386 kernel, would I notice any differance with a k7 or 686 kernel
[01:23] <vot3> can someone help me with repairing a package on my computer? i installed the set@home program from a debian package instead of using synaptic and now i have problems
[01:24] <andre80> ubotu doesn't respond
[01:24] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:24] <HappyFool> andre80: type something in the query window (e.g., ubotu)
[01:24] <funkyHat> this is so annoying. whenever i upgrade packages, or install new ones, synaptic says that they are 'NOT AUTHENTICATED'. things like the kernel, which really should be authenticated...
[01:24] <mikhail^> anybody here has any experience with autotools?
[01:24] <bimberi> andre80: in a /query window the ! at the start is no longer required
[01:25] <andre80> ubotu said nothing
[01:25] <andre80> I tiped a lot there
[01:25] <ubotu> andre80: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:25] <HappyFool> vot3: have you tried 'sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>'
[01:25] <chicken-man> How do i delete my second Linux partition /dev/hda2 ?
[01:25] <funkyHat> does everyone else's software authenticate properly?
[01:25] <HappyFool> andre80: hmm
[01:25] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: do an apt-get update
[01:26] <HappyFool> andre80: works for me
[01:26] <HappyFool> andre80: try '/msg ubotu ubotu' and see what happens
[01:26] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:26] <bimberi> andre80: that might be because your nick isn't registered
[01:26] <andre80> i just registered my nick
[01:26] <vot3> HappyFool: thank you
[01:26] <andre80> and ubotu starts listening
[01:26] <andre80> thx
[01:27] <abyss> thoreauputic, Mem:           313        284         28          0         14        150
[01:27] <chicken-man> i need to delete my second ubuntu partition how do i do it ?
[01:27] <bimberi> andre80: that was quick :)
[01:27] <nophix> chicken-man: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[01:27] <thoreauputic> abyss: I assure you the linux kernel is handling your memory just fine
[01:27] <andre80> he has no clue
[01:27] <HappyFool> andre80: look on the wiki; you will find more info there
[01:28] <HappyFool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <vot3> does anyone here use setiathome?
[01:28] <andre80> ubotu has no clue, oh my
[01:28] <ubotu> andre80: Are you on ritalin?
[01:28] <andre80> where can I get an answer to my question
[01:28] <andre80> wiki oh wiki here I come
[01:28] <ORiON2012> yup ubotu knows all about 42
[01:29] <chicken-man> i think i done it how do i check all my partitions ?
[01:29] <andre80> and he ask me wether I m on ritalin
[01:29] <andre80> !ritalin
[01:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, andre80
[01:29] <andre80> !dweeb
[01:29] <ubotu> andre80: What?
[01:29] <andre80> !driver
[01:29] <ubotu> andre80: What?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> andre80: ubotu only knows what he has been told :)
[01:29] <Habib> who are you man?
[01:29] <andre80> can I teach him something ? :)
[01:29] <andre80> can I can I ?
[01:30] <chicken-man> how do i see what partitions i have ?
[01:30] <HappyFool> chicken-man: sudo fdisk -l
[01:30] <thoreauputic> chicken-man:  fdisk -l
[01:30] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: ubotu knows the ultimate meaning of life, what more could it need?
[01:30] <dawkirst> When will an official release for OpenOffice.Org2 happen?
[01:30] <Habib> you ask mee??
[01:30] <andre80> how about cat partitions at /proc
[01:30] <chicken-man> it's still showing /dev/hda2 :-(
[01:30] <thoreauputic> !life
[01:30] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:30] <ORiON2012> dawkirst: that would be a question for openoffice.org
[01:31] <thoreauputic> !love
[01:31] <ubotu> Love is just a collection of electrochemical reactions and synaptic discharges
[01:31] <Hobbsee> dawkirst: no idea, but it seems to be pretty stable now
[01:31] <thoreauputic> hahah
[01:31] <Habib> hahahha
[01:31] <dawkirst> Hobbsee: I see.
[01:31] <andre80> !stable
[01:31] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, andre80
[01:31] <andre80> !yes
[01:31] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?
[01:31] <chicken-man> how do i delete /dev/hda2 ?
[01:31] <andre80> use partition magic
[01:31] <liable> fdisk
[01:31] <liable> cfdisk
[01:31] <vot3> can someone tell me how to fix this error? Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu[<IP_ADDRESS>] :21... connected.
[01:31] <abyss> thoreauputic, exists a way to disable any effects on system cause i have only a ppc 400mhz
[01:31] <vot3> Logging in as anonymous ...
[01:32] <Habib> People of america! you will wake up to a another world to morrow!!
[01:32] <vot3> Login incorrect.
[01:32] <HappyFool> and the people not of america? the same world?
[01:32] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:32] <HappyFool> vot3: looks like it's not allowing anonymous logins
[01:32] <ORiON2012> vot3: something tells me your login info is not correct
[01:32] <Habib> yes
[01:32] <thoreauputic> abyss: I don't understand your question - if you are still worrying about your RAM, you misunderstood what I was saying
[01:33] <liable> hSTFU.
[01:33] <vot3> HappyFool: how do i configure it to login as my user name, any idea?
[01:33] <HappyFool> vot3: what are you trying to do?
[01:33] <andre80> People of Ubuntu, you will wake up in friendship tomorrow
[01:34] <ORiON2012> koombai-ah my lord...
[01:34] <HappyFool> vot3: i think you can create a .netrc file for auto ftp username/password, but that is seriously '90's ;)
[01:34] <abyss> thoreauputic,  no i understand but cpu usage like 20 - 30 %
[01:34] <Habib> what cain of device.??
[01:34] <ORiON2012> Habib: huh?
[01:35] <_mario> HappyFool: i got it working, thx!
[01:35] <abyss> thoreauputic, if i only move the mouse for a while
[01:35] <Habib> what did say!??
[01:35] <vot3> HappyFool: i am trying to use the setiathome client
[01:35] <HappyFool> _mario: great
[01:35] <HappyFool> vot3: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with that software; maybe read their homepage, or look in /usr/share/doc/setiathome (or /usr/share/doc/<packagename>) for more
[01:36] <vot3> HappyFool: thank you
[01:36] <andre80> I have trouble opening wiki ubuntu
[01:36] <thoreauputic> abyss: is your mchine very slow? Or just reasonably OK for a 400mhz machine?
[01:36] <chicken-man> what is the normal Dos win98 partition called the are a lot of dos :-/
[01:36] <andre80> !fire
[01:36] <ubotu> andre80: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:36] <HappyFool> FAT
[01:37] <andre80> fat32
[01:37] <HappyFool> chicken-man: don't erase extended partitions willy-nilly
[01:37] <HappyFool> andre80: what's the problem with the wiki?
[01:37] <tomaj> how do you stop kernel updates from changing a specific entry? do you have to put it on the end?
[01:37] <abyss> i think for 400mhz risc a little bit slow
[01:37] <tomaj> sorry this is in reference to grub
[01:37] <andre80> no more problems, just now I cannot open
[01:38] <andre80> I m new to ubuntu
[01:38] <HappyFool> tomaj: I think put the entries after '## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST'
[01:38] <tomaj> no other way?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> abyss: if you want to reduce the load, you can use a different desktop - for example install xfce4
[01:38] <srijith> or fluxbox :)
[01:38] <chicken-man> what one ? theres a W95 FAT32 and a W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> srijith:  +1   ;)
[01:39] <andre80> o ya ubuntu works fine on my fujitsu box
[01:39] <srijith> for a new machine for with LBA chicken-man
[01:39] <HappyFool> chicken-man: maybe paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on a pastebin so we know what you're talking about
[01:39] <srijith> new as in not an old machine
[01:39] <andre80> fujitsu laptop i mean
[01:39] <chicken-man> what is LBA ?
[01:39] <katzor> does anyone know if we have chances to see anjuta-2* in breezy?
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: not sure, but woud be nice
[01:40] <srijith> logical block addressing
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: anjuta 2.* is still very much in testing
[01:40] <chicken-man> i am going to delete my /dev/hda2 partition which is my old ubuntu one and replace it with a dos one so i can reinstall windows 98 SE
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: so most likely not
[01:40] <katzor> ORiON2012, too bad
[01:40] <srijith> chicken-man, http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesLBA-c.html
[01:40] <katzor> ORiON2012, thenks fr the info
[01:40] <andre80> buhuhu ubuntu not yet support bluetooth modem buhuhu
[01:41] <chicken-man> i'll just try the W95 FAT32
[01:41] <andre80> ubuntu anak yg manis, anak manis janganlah merokok sayang kl merokok... lho kok merokok ...
[01:41] <katzor> ORiON2012, i would complie it myself, but i dot get gsl compiled, which is a dep
[01:41] <chicken-man> woohoo done
[01:42] <chicken-man> wish me luck, i got to reinstall grub after grrrr
[01:42] <ORiON2012> katzor: it's in breezy, gsl that is
[01:45] <abyss> thoreauputic, how about java runtime for ubuntu?
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> Could someone tell me what is wrong with this command. It keeps coming up with a syntac error... zenity --text-info --text-info-filename=acpi.txt
[01:46] <thoreauputic> !java
[01:46] <ubotu> I heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:46] <thoreauputic> abyss: ^^^^
[01:46] <abyss> thx
[01:46] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> I've tried every combination of quotemarks and = and it still doesn't work.
[01:46] <blrich> has anyone had experiences here with a geforce fx 5500 randomly crashing their machine with 'nvidia-glx' installed and xorg using driver nvidia?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> go-go gadget wiki
[01:46] <blrich> because i have =P
[01:46] <andre80> !j2ee
[01:46] <ubotu> andre80: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> !j2se
[01:46] <ubotu> ORiON2012: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <andre80> !yes
[01:47] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?
[01:47] <ORiON2012> useless
[01:47] <andre80> !useless
[01:47] <ubotu> Not a clue, andre80
[01:47] <blrich> can anyone help? having problems with a geforce fx5500, can't find anything on the forums
[01:47] <Hoxzer> OriOn: are you usefull anymore?
[01:47] <andre80> !brain
[01:47] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:47] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: hmm. maybe the file needs to have a specific syntax?
[01:47] <ORiON2012> Hoxzer: never have been
[01:48] <Hoxzer> :< sad
[01:48] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: allow --help-text-info doesn't imply that, so i guess not
[01:48] <andre80> may I help you by teaching ubotu a thing or two
[01:48] <andre80> ubotu too stupid to ask to
[01:48] <ubotu> andre80: No idea
[01:48] <thoreauputic> andre80: if you want play with the bot, do it in /msg please
[01:48] <andre80> ubotu shut up
[01:48] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:48] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: is problem fixer extraordinaire
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[01:48] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:48] <BollocksMacenzie> HappyFool: I know it's driving me nuts!
[01:50] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: hmm. try   zenity --text-info --filename=acpi.txt
[01:51] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: that --help-text-info is apparently out of date -- check the GNOME help (System -> Help) instead
[01:51] <BollocksMacenzie> It works, and yep, I think the information is rather out of date!
[01:52] <Aklys> can someone help me out with figuring out what my sound card is that doesn't work with ubuntu
[01:52] <Aklys> but it was detected and worked with fedora so trying to figure out the difference
[01:53] <HappyFool> !sound
[01:53] <ubotu> from memory, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[01:53] <HappyFool> those links might help you get started
[01:53] <Aklys> thanks
[01:54] <andre80> Aklys: what is your sound card ?
[01:54] <somedude_> Hey!
[01:54] <ORiON2012> Oh wise HappyFool (kind of a misnomer), where can we learn your awesome bot powers?
[01:54] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, you know you said do an apt-get update? well i'll let you know once it's done... :/
[01:55] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: ? it won't run or what?
[01:55] <HappyFool> ORiON2012: :P. /query ubotu and type 'help'. also 'ubotu' -- gives you an URL where you can search the factoids
[01:55] <funkyHat> no, it's just taking forever because some of the repos are timing out
[01:55] <somedude_> when installing i only got to configure a non root useraccount, and i got package failures.. tried to fix them but couldnt as non root.. ???
[01:55] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: sweet
[01:56] <HappyFool> somedude_: use 'sudo' to get root access; read the link below
[01:56] <HappyFool> !sudo
[01:56] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:56] <Fub> has anyone had problems with the kernel update from today?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: :(
[01:56] <somedude_> ok, *reading*
[01:56] <HappyFool> Fub: a few people have, it seems. i haven't rebooted since installing it
[01:56] <Fub> it's giving me a kernel panic
[01:56] <thoreauputic> Fub: judging by the questions here, a number have, yes
[01:57] <jfk303> hey, all my desktop icons have gone, and right click doesn't work on the desktop anymore, whats the command to restart the desktop? pkill gnome or something??
[01:57] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: heh -I haven't installed a new kernel for 58 days (had trouble with the update then too)
[01:57] <ORiON2012> and after all these kernel issue, it's going to be runnning for a while
[01:57] <funkyHat> i do have hoary-extras and nooms. they seem to be causing some problems, but they shouldn't affect authentication of core packages should they?
[01:58] <Fub> is there a simple way to make a rollback?
[01:58] <guzu> hello all
[01:58] <somedude_> HappyFool, aha.. ok thanks! One more liittle Q - whats the password? Do i set it the first time i sudo or??
[01:58] <thoreauputic>  21:58:16 up 58 days,  6:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00
[01:58] <HappyFool> somedude_: it's your user password (whatever you login with)
[01:59] <guzu> anybody knows a way to make isa sound card work with ubuntu (5.04) ?
[01:59] <somedude_> aah, ok.. weird! but ill try.. my first with ubuntu! :) used slack a few  years back.. ! Thanks again :)
[01:59] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: if only I had the cash for the electricity bill to keep everything running all the time...
[01:59] <guzu> gravis ultrasound ace
[02:00] <jfk303> just got disconnected, its not pkill gnome :), did anyone answer my question: how to (not restart now) but fix my desktop?
[02:00] <somedude_> *poff*
[02:00] <Fub> do anyone if I can go back to my previous kernel?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: hey it's winter here - I cut down my heating bill by runnng my boxen 24/7 ;-)
[02:01] <ORiON2012> Fub: you can select previous kernels at the bootloader (grub) menu on boot
[02:01] <Aklys> what does "pass isapnp=0 to modprobe" mean?
[02:02] <Fub> ORiON2012, hmm... bummer, there aren't any that works
[02:03] <HappyFool> Aklys: i *think* it means add "isapnp=0" to the end of the modprobe command
[02:03] <Fub> I guess it didn't keep the one from before today's update
[02:03] <guzu> Aklys, maybe means "don't probe for isa pnp"
[02:03] <HappyFool> Aklys: so, 'sudo modprobe modulename isapnp=0' -- that is a guess, though
[02:03] <ORiON2012> Aklys: I know it's used in ALSA quite a bit
[02:04] <ORiON2012> Aklys: In fact it's in the ALSA-configuration.txt
[02:04] <Aklys> it's mean to be done for when you have a isa card
[02:04] <Aklys> oh ok not sure what the modulename is then
[02:04] <jaqkar> aloa
[02:06] <guzu> Aklys, are there any docs for setting up an isa sound card in ubuntu?
[02:06] <HappyFool> Fub: yeah, looks the kernel upgrade overwrites /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386
[02:06] <guzu> or alsa
[02:06] <Sauron21> hi ...I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to run .jar files on ubuntu....I have all of javas programms(java development kit and runtime file).....I just dont what the command is to run the fil
[02:06] <guzu> Sauron21, try java -jar *jar
[02:06] <HappyFool> Fub: i have one idea, which might not work. Do you have an ubuntu live cd ?
[02:07] <Sauron21> that does not work.....
[02:07] <Fub> well, I'm trying to download an install cd
[02:07] <HappyFool> !java
[02:07] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:07] <Aklys> guzu looking at the one that HF triggered for me
[02:07] <Sauron21> it just say that "java" is not a command
[02:07] <Fub> but my internet is slow right now for some reason
[02:07] <guzu> Sauron21, then you have not java in your path, find out where it is
[02:08] <HappyFool> Fub: well, anyway, my idea is to boot from the livecd, chroot into your ubuntu install, and use dpkg to install an older kernel
[02:08] <Sauron21> how do I do that?
[02:08] <HappyFool> to install java, please see the url ubotu posted earlier
[02:08] <guzu> Aklys, since i've logged in, i see no link
[02:08] <Fub> HappyFool, can't I boot into linux from an install cd
[02:08] <guzu> HappyFool, do you know of any doc available for setting an isa sound card in ubuntu>?
[02:09] <Fub> ?
[02:09] <Sauron21> I think my java is in /usr/java/
[02:09] <Sauron21> isent that where it should be?
[02:09] <Fub> nm
[02:09] <guzu> Fub, try linu root=/dev/yourrootpartition
[02:09] <ORiON2012> Sauron21: that all depends
[02:09] <Fub> I'll download the live cd
[02:09] <HappyFool> Fub: the live cd might be easier; the install CD is less flexible
[02:09] <guzu> Fub, of course you can start also the linux on live cd :)
[02:09] <HappyFool> guzu: um, not sure
[02:09] <morbidi> Fub: if you know command line
[02:09] <morbidi> sure
[02:10] <manu__> hey ciao
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Sauron21: /usr/java/ is not in your pathe by default
[02:10] <thoreauputic> *path
[02:10] <manu__> i m looking to upgrade from debian to ubuntu
[02:10] <manu__> maybe you can help me
[02:10] <manu__> i m scared to loose my files
[02:10] <ORiON2012> Sauron21: mine happens to be in /usr/lib, it all depends on where it was installed, if it was installed at all.
[02:10] <topyli> manu__: don't upgrade, it can be messy. make a new installation
[02:11] <guzu> wich .deb provides isapnp?
[02:11] <manu__> and i just paste my main folder from debian ... wright?
[02:11] <manu__> so i can keep my files
[02:11] <HappyFool> isapnptools -- i think -- it's in universe
[02:11] <guzu> manu__, you probbably wanna save your /home partition
[02:12] <thoreauputic> guzu:  do  apt-cache search isapnp
[02:12] <manu__> yes
[02:12] <topyli> manu__: is your /home on a partition of its own?
[02:12] <guzu> thoreauputic, k thnx
[02:12] <manu__> yes
[02:12] <manu__> think so
[02:12] <theine> Is somebody packaging Quake III already?
[02:12] <topyli> manu__: then it's easy. install ubuntu, but don't format the /home partition
[02:13] <manu__> ok
[02:13] <topyli> manu__: but don't "think". you have to be sure :)
[02:13] <manu__> never
[02:13] <manu__> hihihiihih
[02:13] <guzu> lol
[02:13] <topyli> hah
[02:13] <ORiON2012> theine: why? It's so much fun to build from source.
[02:13] <guzu> manu__, to be safe, save the content of /home somewhere, like another hard drive or an dvd
[02:13] <manu__> yes
[02:13] <manu__> i have externel drive
[02:14] <manu__> this should work
[02:14] <manu__> so i just boot from the cd
[02:15] <manu__> and install new ubuntu
[02:15] <manu__> so thanks a much guzu
[02:15] <manu__> :)
[02:15] <guzu> manu__, nothing to thank for
[02:16] <manu__> maybe see one s again
[02:16] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: howdie mate :)
[02:16] <thoreauputic> hi jaqkar :)
[02:17] <topyli> q3a packages would be nice
[02:20] <guzu> csound
[02:20] <guzu> wrong kbd sorry
[02:20] <giggsey> Grub help - If I add my windows installation as a grub option, and have it first on the list, do I have to have 'boot' on the last line of the entry
[02:21] <guzu> giggsey, default=0
[02:21] <giggsey> o_O
[02:21] <guzu> to make it default
[02:21] <giggsey> ok
[02:21] <ompaul> giggsey, the setting default= points at which stanza after the the section commences that it points at
[02:21] <giggsey> so if its last
[02:22] <giggsey> it will be 3
[02:22] <Belutz> topyli: what happened at sept 7?
[02:22] <ompaul> giggsey, if it is the third stanza
[02:22] <guzu> giggsey, yes if you have 4 entries
[02:22] <giggsey> ok
[02:22] <vot3> hello #ubuntu
[02:22] <vot3> even though i just switched to kde
[02:22] <ompaul> hello vot3
[02:22] <guzu> giggsey, note that default=... should appear before any menu entry
[02:22] <vot3> how are you all?
[02:22] <topyli> Belutz: gnome 2.12 should be released, and breezy preview should come out :)
[02:23] <giggsey> that will mean no 'boot' at the end of Windows option
[02:23] <guzu> giggsey, yes
[02:23] <guzu> see info grub for examples
[02:23] <Belutz> topyli: ic... sept 7 is also my birthday hehehehe lol
[02:23] <ompaul> vot3, given that there are 477 in the channel maybe not the best of questions :)|-<
[02:23] <topyli> Belutz: nice birthday presents coming up =)
[02:24] <Belutz> topyli: yup :D
[02:25] <jaqkar> quite calm in here today :P
[02:25] <topyli> Belutz: being impatient, i broke a box at work with breezy one day. it looks pretty darn good once it stabilizes
[02:26] <Belutz> topyli: what are the main features of breezy compared to hoary?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ompaul: for each in nicks ; do echo " $each is fine, thanks " ; done
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[02:27] <topyli> Belutz: i only looked at gnome really. you can see the new features in davyd's "sneak peek" page
[02:27] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hehe
[02:27] <dv__> hi
[02:27] <dv__> I have a slight problem with the mouse.
[02:27] <Belutz> topyli: yup, i really like gnome compared to KDE, but i think KDE is more developed, CMIIW
[02:27] <dv__> i have a laptop with a touchpad
[02:28] <dv__> the pad works fine, except that I had to configure the tap time manually in the xorg.conf (its a synaptic touchpad)
[02:28] <dv__> I can also connect an USB mouse, however the USB mouse moves too slowly
[02:28] <dv__> and the mouse settings do not change that
[02:28] <Belutz> dv__: my synaptic touchpad runs well out of the box
[02:29] <dv__> now I forgot how the sensitivity setting in xorg.conf is naemd
[02:29] <dv__> named
[02:29] <dv__> Belutz, mine too, but I wanted that tap-to-click feature disabled
[02:29] <topyli> Belutz: they're different for sure. some people even seem to prefer kde :)
[02:29] <dv__> so anyone knows the xorg.conf option for mouse sensitivity?
[02:30] <Belutz> dv__: i once found a package that can control the synaptic touchpad, but i forgot the url :(
[02:30] <topyli> Belutz: found the page: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[02:30] <Belutz> topyli: thx :)
[02:32] <Belutz> Along with over 200 bugs fixed, Nautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems. <--- WOW
[02:32] <kikito> hello guy!
[02:32] <kikito> guys
[02:33] <snippy> hello people
[02:33] <kikito> whats going on
[02:33] <brenner> Belutz: yep, wow...200 bugs
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Belutz: heh - another stick for Mac zealots to beat us with ;)
[02:33] <kikito> anybody here good with wireless connections?
[02:33] <snippy> I've got a problem with captive.. <.<
[02:34] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no ours are fixed :-)
[02:34] <jaqkar> zealots - arent those from starcraft?
[02:34] <kikito> I have quite a problem with my wireless adapter
[02:34] <snippy> Preparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.
[02:34] <snippy> lufs module not loaded: Try running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod to see more. at /usr/bin/captive-lufsd line 180
[02:34] <Belutz> yuppp
[02:34] <Belutz> Amaranth's SMEG is also included out of the box :D
[02:35] <hardw1re> anyone here tried compiling the latest aMSN cvs?
[02:35] <kikito> does anybody has a wireless connection?
[02:35] <kemik> kikito:  tried ndiswrapper?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> snippy: so of course you tried running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod as the message said.. and .. ?
[02:35] <kikito> yea
[02:36] <kikito> well I got the connection working up to the point of encription
[02:36] <kikito> as soon as I try to put encryption on the wireless connection everything goes bersek
[02:37] <snippy> thoreauputic  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1420
[02:37] <kikito> so right now my setting is with essid "default" and broadcast
[02:38] <thoreauputic> snippy:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:38] <thoreauputic> snippy: have you installed linux-headers-$(uname -r)  ?
[02:38] <snippy> thoreauputic  I did apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:39] <thoreauputic> snippy: OK well it's complaining you don't have a compiler, so install build-essential
[02:39] <snippy> thoreauputic  I did, hold on
[02:39] <thoreauputic> snippy: I think not
[02:40] <thoreauputic> snippy: -->  /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
[02:40] <kikito> kemik: do you have usb wireless connection?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> so, you didn't install build-essential
[02:40] <Gabriel> hello, after kernel update on my hoary PPC, I get kernel panic on reboot and I can't boot the old kernel either as it says there is no such file or directory... what should I do?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> snippy: ^^
[02:40] <kemik> kikito:  nope
[02:41] <kikito> oh
[02:41] <snippy> thoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1421
[02:41] <kikito> kemik: do you know where I can get help for it?
[02:42] <kemik> kikito:  google/wiki/forums
[02:42] <phw> Hi folks. is there anyone who got a ati x700 (mobile) running with ubuntu?
[02:42] <kemik> kikito:  i usually find alot of good stuff on google
[02:42] <Fanskapet> hmm usb
[02:42] <Fanskapet> atleast my inbuilt wlan card works correctly
[02:42] <kikito> kemik: yea I have been googling a lot since I got ubuntu
[02:43] <kikito> I got a d-link usb adapter
[02:43] <thoreauputic> snippy: "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build" do not appear to be valid" <---  you have a mismatch I think
[02:43] <kikito> My proble is that I cant put encryption on it
[02:43] <snippy> thoreauputic
[02:44] <snippy> thoreauputic how can I fix? :(
[02:44] <kikito> at least I can connect to the web.  lets just say that Im happy to be here
[02:44] <brenner> Gabriel: search the forum for topics while you wait
[02:44] <thoreauputic> snippy: it may be looking for "kernel heaaders" - I'm not sure. Are you sure you installed the right headers ?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> snippy: Ubuntu calls them "linux headers" - maybe the script is confused?
[02:45] <snippy> thoreauputic yes, I'm sure,  I read on a forum about making a link to usr/src/linux  but I dont know how
[02:45] <kikito> does anybody has experience with wireless connections?
[02:46] <kikito> any help would be appreciated
[02:46] <thoreauputic> snippy: hmm - well I've never messed with captive so I don't know - maybe search the ubuntu forums to see if anyone has done it and has an answer?
[02:47] <snippy> thoreauputic, do you know how to make a link to /usr/src/linux ?
[02:47] <snippy> I'm confused
[02:47] <phw> kikito: fetch ndis-wrapper drivers
[02:47] <sJaM> ln -s source dest
[02:47] <HappyFool> kikito: see this?
[02:47] <phw> then fetch the inf file on your windws partition and initialize it
[02:47] <sJaM> snippy
[02:47] <HappyFool> !wep
[02:47] <ubotu> wep is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[02:48] <HappyFool> snippy: do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build ? and where does it link to?
[02:48] <kikito> yes I did that and I managed to get connection
[02:48] <thoreauputic> snippy: you would do something like   sudo ln -s /what/you/have  /where/you/want/link
[02:48] <thoreauputic> snippy: if that makes sense
[02:48] <snippy> snippy@isisIII:~$ /usr/share/lufs/prepmod
[02:48] <snippy> + /sbin/modprobe lufs 2>/dev/null
[02:48] <snippy> Preparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.
[02:48] <snippy> Running kernel version: 2.6.10-5-k7 (base version 2.6.10)
[02:48] <snippy> Destination module directory: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/fs/lufs
[02:48] <snippy> Using kernel sources: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build
[02:49] <snippy> rewrite "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h": Permission denied at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 87
[02:49] <kikito> but I had to set my router to essid "default" and no encryption
[02:49] <snippy>         main::_writefile('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h', '#include <linux/version.h>\x{9}/* lufs */\x{a}#include <linux/version...') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 246
[02:49] <HappyFool> nooooo
[02:49] <snippy>         main::build_make('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 289
[02:49] <snippy>         main::build('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 156
[02:49] <deFrysk> foood :s
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !lart snippy
[02:49] <roham_> how do I install a autopackage? the file is like xxxxxxxxx.package ?
[02:49] <deFrysk> +l
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:49] <snippy> <_<
[02:49] <thoreauputic> snippy: NEVER do that again please
[02:49] <deFrysk> roham_, better to use a .dob from a ubuntu-repo
[02:49] <kikito> for some reason encryption does not work
[02:49] <deFrysk> .deb
[02:49] <snippy> yea ok, sorry
[02:50] <kikito> ndiswrapper finds the device
[02:50] <roham_> deFrysk ... its only a autopackage
[02:50] <topyli> roham_: are you sure there's no .deb package? what are you trying to install?
[02:50] <deFrysk> roham_, then try tio find help at #autopackage or something
[02:51] <hardw1re> Checking for required C library versions ... failed
[02:51] <roham_> topyli: yes, webcam support for gaim
[02:51] <snippy> thoreauputic did you read the error message?
[02:51] <HappyFool> kikito: have you read the wep link ubotu pasted earlier?
[02:51] <hardw1re> You need at least the following symbols in glibc: GLIBC_2.0.
[02:52] <hardw1re> ^^ anyone understand or know how to fix this?
[02:52] <HappyFool> hardw1re: what are you trying to compile?
[02:52] <hardw1re> Gaim-w
[02:52] <snippy> HappyFool, how can I check this? directory exists but I dont see where it links to
[02:52] <thoreauputic> snippy: run it with sudo prepended
[02:52] <HappyFool> snippy: ls /lib/modules/..../build
[02:52] <piotr_> hi
[02:53] <HappyFool> hardw1re: have you installed the build-essential package?
[02:53] <piotr_> Hi people this is my 1rst time in irc ;-)
[02:53] <hardw1re> i beleive i did
[02:53] <snippy> can I paste those 2 lines here?
[02:53] <HappyFool> welcome piotr_
[02:54] <DarkRaika> I have a friend thats after a wireless driver
[02:54] <DarkRaika> a
[02:54] <HappyFool> snippy: sure
[02:54] <DarkRaika> linksys wmp54g
[02:54] <snippy> arch    drivers  include  ipc     lib       mm              net      security  usr
[02:54] <snippy> crypto  fs       init     kernel  Makefile  Module.symvers  scripts  sound
[02:54] <DarkRaika> its not working for Ubuntu
[02:54] <hardw1re> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:54] <hardw1re>   arts libarts1 libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev
[02:54] <HappyFool> snippy: ok, so the link is there, and is probably ok; have you tried the sudo that thoreauputic suggested?
[02:54] <CyberMad> do you know any better Yahoo! Messenger client than kopete, because in Kopete i don't which person that "on SMS" or not -_-
[02:55] <piotr_> I have ubuntu to its a great Os  In poland wher I live linux is very popular Os ;)
[02:55] <snippy> HappyFool, sudo what? sudo the command for captive ?
[02:55] <hardw1re> another european :)
[02:55] <HappyFool> snippy: yip
[02:55] <thoreauputic> snippy: rerun the script, yes, with sudo
[02:55] <snippy> HappyFool, yes, without it wouldnt work
[02:56] <hardw1re> HappyFool: i did the build-essential yesterday, but i just did an apt-get upgrade on it, and got told those packages i pasted above ^^ were held back...
[02:56] <thoreauputic> snippy: your pastebin pastes don't show a sudo
[02:56] <hardw1re> i have to pop out, i should be back in a bout 10 minutes
[02:57] <HappyFool> hardw1re: hmm, not sure. that glibc_2.0 error is a bit weird
[02:57] <hardw1re> could it be my kernel?
[02:57] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64]
[02:57] <HappyFool> i doubt it
[02:57] <thoreauputic> snippy: ah, sorry, you were root for those
[02:57] <snippy> HappyFool, thoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1423
[02:58] <Gabriel> brenner, i didn't find anything so i just created the post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58473
[02:58] <topyli> CyberMad: that question should be taken outside and shot. ;-) what do you mean?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> snippy: hmm - for some reason it doesn't like your kernel headers
[03:00] <snippy> :(
[03:00] <thoreauputic> snippy: ah --> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7   <--
[03:00] <thoreauputic> snippy: does that exist?
[03:00] <LinuxJones> Sorry for the off-topic but does anybody know of an Adobe IRC channel ?
[03:00] <snippy> thoreauputic no
[03:01] <brenner> LinuxJones: #adobe maybe?
[03:01] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: i thought the build symlink in /lib/*/modules was the 'correct' set of kernel headers to use?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> brenner, nope but thanks :)
[03:02] <dv> hmm
[03:02] <LinuxJones> brenner, google doesn't even list one :(
[03:02] <dv> manually setting the "Resolution" option doesnt work
[03:02] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: it seems to be looking for /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7 ?
[03:02] <dv> now the mouse has a decent speed in gdm
[03:02] <snippy> thoreauputic, putting a link may help ?
[03:02] <brenner> LinuxDolt: doubt people would bother debugging adobe reader problems :)
[03:02] <dv> but when I start gnome, it becomes slow again
[03:02] <brenner> in an IRC channel that is :)
[03:02] <HappyFool> yeah, but see the order of search ( modules/*/build comes first)
[03:02] <dv> and the mouse settings only work for the touchpad, not for the mouse
[03:03] <dv> any ideas?
[03:03] <snippy> maybe lufs is not working right?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: hrm - OK I'm out of my depth at this point
[03:03] <snippy> I heard its dead
[03:03] <Angrod> i got this problem with KDE, if i use my pc for more then say 8 hourse. it start working like hell, and everything starts going all slow. but when i use Gnome, it works fine. any know whats wrong? or how i can fix it? i like the look in KDE much more then Gnome, so i would like to use KDE :x
[03:03] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:03] <brenner> dv: sys > prefs > mouse ?
[03:03] <HappyFool> also "kill_proc_info" is undefined -- seems a bit weird
[03:04] <dv> I already said that this doesnt work
[03:04] <dv> sys > prefs > mouse only affects the touchpad
[03:04] <dv> the mouse is slow as hell
[03:04] <blk> can someone help me with the problem described on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53120 - i got the same thing here!
[03:04] <brenner> Angrod: run a system monitor when it seems to be "working" heavily and see what's using your CPU
[03:04] <LinuxJones> brenner, I just have a few general questions to ask regarding some of their products. Maybe it will be faster to just give them a call :)
[03:05] <Angrod> brenner: yeah, i tried that... but the system monitor does not work :P
[03:05] <HappyFool> snippy: did you install this from ubuntu, or somewhere else?
[03:05] <brenner> LinuxJones: they have tech support?  sure, why not.
[03:05] <brenner> Angrod: can you run 'top' in a terminal?
[03:05] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:05] <topyli> seems like ubuntu systems are unbootable today
[03:05] <loeki> does anybody can tell me how I let my computer connected with mldonkey
[03:05] <snippy> I used a german guide, its not in the repos, had to alien a rpm..
[03:06] <Angrod> brenner: yeah, that works
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: ah. there is a lufs-source package -- i'd use that instead
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: the lufs-source package is in the universe repository
[03:06] <snippy> HappyFool, I tried
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: and?
[03:06] <brenner> Angrod: you can use that then when it's under stress
[03:06] <snippy> HappyFool, same error
[03:07] <snippy> I'm using it atm
[03:07] <funkyHat> well apt-get update finally finished while i was away: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1425
[03:07] <HappyFool> snippy: i thought you said you were using an alien'ed rpm?
[03:07] <dv> brenner, are there any other ways of configuring the mouse?
[03:07] <funkyHat> i don't know why i get so many errors:(
[03:07] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:07] <munja> hi all
[03:08] <funkyHat> hi
[03:08] <HappyFool> snippy: i'm downloading it now; i'll see if i can figure it works here
[03:08] <munja> I am pretty new with linux
[03:08] <HappyFool> err
[03:08] <HappyFool> that is, i'll see if i can get it to work here
[03:08] <munja> especially ubuntu
[03:08] <snippy> HappyFool yes for captive, I tried to run it -> error, then I used the lufs in the repos, same error
[03:08] <munja> but I have a question
[03:08] <brenner> dv: i'm not certain, but fiddling with xorg.conf might be something...have you searched the forums for mouse topics?
[03:08] <Angrod> brenner: oki :) thanks
[03:08] <munja> if anyone is willing to help
[03:09] <dv> brenner, the xorg.conf settings are overridden
[03:09] <chicken-man> help me !!
[03:09] <dv> by i-dont-know-what
[03:09] <brenner> munja: ask away
[03:09] <dv> I set the "Resolution" option
[03:09] <dv> which works well in gdm, the mouse is fast enough there. but once I am in gnome, its slow again.
[03:09] <chicken-man> help me !!
[03:09] <funkyHat> p
[03:09] <brenner> chicken-man: if someone knows, they'll answer...repeating yourself only bugs people
[03:10] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: looks like http://public.planetmirror.com is terminally ill - try another mirror
[03:10] <munja> is there any way to install Linksys WRT54G PCMCIA wireless card?
[03:10] <snippy> HappyFool, I found a guy on a forum with the same problem, he made a new kernel because kill_proc_info is not exporting anymore in the new kernel..
[03:10] <HappyFool> snippy: ah
[03:10] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, is there a list of mirrors anywhere?
[03:10] <iiiears> Good Morning! :)
[03:11] <chicken-man> i need help now ! i need to install grub
[03:11] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: hang on
[03:11] <chicken-man> i don't want to have to boot with the live cd every time
[03:11] <brenner> evening iiiears :)
[03:11] <iiiears> Hi thoreauputic!
[03:12] <filip_> how can i play my wmv movies?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: looks like hoary-extras is the culprit - try deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:12] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[03:12] <iiiears> Hi brenner
[03:12] <chicken-man> how do i install grub on /dev/hda ?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hi again :)
[03:13] <HappyFool> snippy: installing this had better not eat my data, as the README claims ;)
[03:13] <guzu> chicken-man, try: grub-install /dev/hda --recheck --no-floppy
[03:13] <iiiears> Having trouble with my irc client being overflowed. - would like to find a client that won't accept private messages.
[03:14] <snippy> HappyFool :x
[03:14] <liable> umode +E
[03:14] <liable> stops all but registered
[03:14] <iiiears> spent the morning reading about snort inline and packet queues - just seems too drastic for now
[03:14] <owtput> filip_: apt-get install w32codecs
[03:14] <funkyHat> the updates seemed to authenticate ok once i ran apt-get update too :)
[03:14] <filip_> owtput: okey thanx for the fast help :)
[03:14] <HappyFool> snippy: hmm. i think you may be right about needing a different kernel
[03:15] <brenner> chicken-man: is this after a windows install?
[03:15] <martin-> nee some help: I installed a debian package (openmsx). When installing i got some reports about a different libc6 version. I chose to ignore that error and the program works fine. However, when i want to use synaptic package manager he complains about broken packages and with every action wants to remove that packages. Can i somehow let synaptic ignore broken packages?
[03:15] <owtput> iiiears: which client were u using, btw?
[03:15] <HappyFool> snippy: i get this in dmesg when i 'modprobe lufs' : lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info
[03:15] <iiiears> X-chat
[03:15] <chicken-man> yes
[03:16] <owtput> martin-: you shouldn't, and i don't believe it's possible either
[03:16] <snippy> HappyFool, yeah.. the new kernel does not work with that
[03:16] <snippy> meh
[03:16] <brenner> iiiears: can't you use the ignore list and filter *@* with private enabled?
[03:16] <HappyFool> snippy: i don't know what kernel you need though, sorry - see maybe http://lufs.sourceforge.net (eek - last msg 30/10/2003)
[03:16] <iiiears> owtput - any suggestions?
[03:16] <HappyFool> snippy: what do you actually want to do with this? write to ntfs?
[03:16] <chicken-man> i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.'
[03:16] <brenner> iiiears: can you try and msg me?  i'll test it now
[03:16] <LinuxDolt> i was called?
[03:16] <iiiears> brenner nice tip
[03:16] <snippy> HappyFool, lufs is dead..  yes write to ntfs, captive uses the windows drivers so no risks etc..
[03:17] <owtput> martin-: what's preventing you from using fixing-broken-packages in synaptic?
[03:17] <Brenton_> I'm having issues getting a network connection on my ubuntu 5.04 box.  It's found the nic, but I can't seem to get DHCP to work, I've tested the cord on another box and it's working fine
[03:17] <liable> you cant boot from that though..
[03:17] <topyli> martin-: better get the debian source package and build it on ubuntu
[03:17] <liable> doh
[03:17] <letschatt> my window manager doesn't load. does anyone mind helping me? i have no window manager utilities available :(
[03:17] <snippy> Captive was written to interface with the Linux kernel via LUFS. Unfortunately, this project is no longer being maintained by its author. Mounting of NTFS devices usually works, but is no longer supported by the author of Captive. Always unmount the device by umount(8) command before shutting down your GNU/Linux system.
[03:17] <snippy> A port of Captive to the newer FUSE interface has not yet been implemented. There is an experimental LUFS-FUSE bridge called lufis that can be used in the meanwhile. Also, the captive-cmdline(1) interface will get around any kernel compatibility problems.
[03:17] <LinuxDolt> oh...  someone tab-completed for a different Linux name.
[03:17] <filip_> owtpu: i cant run apt-get install w32codecs i get error and i dont find it in synaptic
[03:17] <brenner> chicken-man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:18] <chicken-man> i've read that lol
[03:18] <brenner> chicken-man: looks like you need to mount the ubuntu filesystem first
[03:18] <chicken-man> i have
[03:18] <brenner> *partition
[03:18] <chicken-man> i am in it
[03:18] <letschatt> hi everyone. i get gnome to load but it doesn't provide any of the WM facilities
[03:18] <brenner> iiiears: did you try and msg me?
[03:18] <chicken-man> i'll try remounting i might have missed a bit
[03:19] <playback> hi, I have just installed ubuntu and have no idea what I am talking about
[03:20] <brenner> letschatt: i've heard of it....maybe try reconfiguring the xorg package?
[03:20] <letschatt> is there anyone here who doesn't mind helping me? i've got a strange situation here guys
[03:20] <playback> I have a nice virgin raid array and am trying to get it to work... please help
[03:20] <chicken-man> how do i unmount a drive ?
[03:20] <brenner> filip_: need to add hoary-extras to your repos
[03:20] <anthony> Is there any way of speeding up loading of web pages with ubunte 5.04?
[03:20] <funkyHat> chicken-man, umount
[03:20] <kemik> chicken-man:  umount
[03:21] <filip_> brenner: okey
[03:21] <kemik> it echoes in here
[03:21] <martin-> topyli, how dies that building work?
[03:21] <csj> hi,all
[03:21] <brenner> anthony: using firefox?
[03:21] <letschatt> brenner i have very limited screen space because none of my WM functions like maximize or minimize work
[03:21] <guzu> hi csj
[03:21] <letschatt> i removed metacity from gnome. could that have caused a problem
[03:22] <dsas> letschatt: yes
[03:22] <letschatt> no shidt? really?
[03:22] <brenner> letschatt: yep...it's gnome's engine iirc
[03:22] <topyli> martin-: enable unstable deb-src line in sources.list. then apt-get update, apt-get build-depends foo, apt-get -b source foo (where foo is the package)
[03:22] <letschatt> alright i am gonna put it back in
[03:22] <dsas> letschatt: that's the thing that controls maximise etc
[03:22] <martin-> owtput: the right package versions are missing according to dpkg:
[03:22] <anthony> yes fire fox
[03:22] <brenner> anthony: common problem....there are a few tweaks out there..check the forum
[03:22] <robertj> is there an rss feed of backports updates anywhere?
[03:23] <martin-> openmsx-catapult depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[03:23] <martin->   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.
[03:23] <ompaul> be kind to yourself remove windows and learn the way of Freedom, not some world where vendor gratuitous changes lie ahead leaving needing their next version to allow you escape from the jail they created for you ...
[03:23] <anthony> thanks brenner
[03:23] <iiiears> brenner adding ignore "*@*"  seems to work  Thank You  -   spent 2 hours reading about packet mangling. roflmao
[03:23] <playback> can someone help me with my hard drive problem?
[03:24] <garyjr> hi im having a sound problem in ubuntu the newest one its not recognizing my sound card
[03:24] <brenner> iiiears: glad to hear......i actually thought of that myself \0/
[03:24] <brenner> iiiears: although a little bloated, xchat is pretty nice i'd say
[03:25] <filip_> how can i get hoary-extras ?
[03:25] <brenner> !repos
[03:25] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:25] <iiiears> X-chat is very nice. - configurable and easy on the eyes
[03:25] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[03:25] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:25] <RootX|Arphetic> Only thing i miss in Xchat is support for mIRC scripts
[03:25] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[03:26] <iiiears> perl?
[03:26] <brenner> i thought mirc is evil :)
[03:26] <funkyHat> um... ok this is worrying: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1426
[03:26] <RootX|Arphetic> iiiears mIRC has nice triggers
[03:26] <RootX|Arphetic>  lol [ LOL ]  = Laughing Out Loud
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> try !whatis lol and stuff like that
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> !whatis rootxen
[03:27] <ubotu> I don't know, RootX|Arphetic
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[03:27] <funkyHat> does anyone else get that? (pastebin above)
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> err?
[03:28] <HappyFool> funkyHat: try again? it's working ok for me
[03:28] <brenner> playback: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[03:28] <erb> hi
[03:28] <funkyHat> this has been happening for 3 weeks or so ;)
[03:28] <RootX|Arphetic> This HTTP server has broken range support
[03:28] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm
[03:28] <filip_> should i add this deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to my /etc/apt/sources.list to get hoary-extras ?
[03:29] <RootX|Arphetic> I think u should install some other things first?
[03:29] <HappyFool> funkyHat: not maybe a proxy problem?
[03:29] <funkyHat> filip_, yes
[03:29] <chicken-man> WooT i think i done it :-P
[03:29] <filip_> funkyHat: okey thanx
[03:29] <funkyHat> HappyFool, if it is, then it's my ISP's invisible proxy, and there's not a lot i can do about it :(
[03:29] <RootX|Arphetic> chicken-man what?
[03:29] <playback> thanx brenner but I haqve nice shiny new virgin barracudas
[03:29] <ompaul> !network
[03:29] <brenner> chicken-man: well done...what was the fix?
[03:29] <ubotu> I don't know, ompaul
[03:29] <ompaul> !networks
[03:29] <ubotu> I heard networks is Menu item System - Administration - Networking and or it could be sudo pppoeconf
[03:30] <martin-> topyli: which repository do i need? I have that mirrormax repository
[03:30] <chicken-man> i done it manually using /sbin/grub
[03:30] <RootX|Arphetic> they should fix the triggers here
[03:30] <brenner> playback: ok.  i just asked ubotu for a raid topic
[03:30] <RootX|Arphetic> make it !network* instead of !networks
[03:30] <brenner> playback: have no idea about them myself
[03:30] <topyli> martin-: for unstable sources?
[03:30] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. maybe mv some files in /var/cache/apt somewhere else, and retry (this is a wild guess ;)
[03:30] <martin-> topyli: yes
[03:31] <funkyHat> HappyFool, could i try cleaning the cache?
[03:31] <playback> yeah, I read that one. how about how to format another drive? not raid
[03:31] <topyli> martin-: i have deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
[03:31] <HappyFool> funkyHat: 'cleaning' as in?
[03:31] <topyli> martin-: you may want another server than fi.debian.org
[03:32] <martin-> topyli: why?
[03:32] <HappyFool> funkyHat: as in 'apt-get clean' ?
[03:32] <topyli> martin-: might get better download rates from a server near you
[03:32] <kemik> using debian archives is a bit risky
[03:32] <kemik> so you know
[03:32] <funkyHat> yeah
[03:32] <HappyFool> funkyHat: go for it. look in /var/cache/apt afterwards, see if there's a pkgcache.bin file there
[03:33] <topyli> kemik: sources should be safe as long as you build your binaries on ubuntu
[03:33] <martin-> topyli: ah ok, and which "unstable" repos wiht openmsx is there for ubuntu?
[03:33] <kemik> ah. just getting sources
[03:33] <funkyHat> HappyFool, yeah there is
[03:33] <topyli> martin-: they are just sources, they're not for ubuntu at all
[03:34] <HappyFool> funkyHat: try mv them to say <filename>.bak , and apt-get update again?
[03:34] <funkyHat> ok
[03:35] <topyli> martin-: openmsx seems to only be in debian stable, there's no unstable package
[03:35] <funkyHat> tried it, still get the same error
[03:35] <topyli> martin-: it's in breezy too
[03:36] <crevette> hello
[03:36] <kemik> if its just sources, why not download from the web ?
[03:37] <topyli> kemik: debian sources are easy to build using apt
[03:37] <topyli> kemik: you end up with a nice debian package
[03:37] <shinu> is there any ways to add a resolution to xfce? i only have 1024x768
[03:38] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. I just tried to do partial download using wget on security.ubuntu.com, it worked fine
[03:38] <brenner> !tell shinu about fixres
[03:38] <HappyFool> funkyHat: "Content-Range: bytes 100-278/279"
[03:38] <shinu> brenner: thanks
[03:38] <ompaul> kemik, takes some of the work out of it, it is the version that is installed on your machine, so you are not having to look after dependancies - it is the whole idea behind running a distro, you don't have to look after 1million things just a few well targeted ones
[03:38] <maverick> folks, wats the default pwd for root ?
[03:38] <iiiears> !root
[03:38] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, there is none see the note from ubotu
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, if you try to do something it is your password it wants to work with sudo
[03:39] <iiiears> Mac style super user policy
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, biggest advantage, all actions are logged
[03:41] <no_dammagE> hi, can someone help me to configure automount please? somehow it won't work :/
[03:41] <brenner> more info needed
[03:42] <no_dammagE> i apt-get install autofs, so I have it now
[03:42] <borfast> hi everyone
[03:42] <HappyFool>  funkyHat: maybe you could use wget with --cache=off to get whatever file is not working, and (maybe) flush the transparent cache, if there is one
[03:42] <no_dammagE> i modified the /etc/auto.master script and added: /media/autofs /etc/auto.autofs --timeout=5
[03:42] <no_dammagE> in the auto.autofs script I have cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom
[03:43] <no_dammagE> the paths exist, but /etc/init.d/autofs start doesn't do anything, the cdrom won't be automounted :/
[03:43] <funkyHat> HappyFool, i don't seem to have any problem with wget
[03:43] <borfast> guys, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu (I'll get to that next) but I thought I'd ask, since I've seen the same thing in other IRC channels: what's with the "paste" pages, what are they for...?
[03:44] <chicken-man> time to see if my system boots :P wish me luck
[03:44] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. ok, just an idea
[03:44] <no_dammagE> here is the status of autofs: /usr/sbin/automount --timeout=5 /media/autofs program /etc/auto.autofs
[03:44] <maverick> thx all
[03:44] <brenner> borfast: pastebin to avoid flodding the channel with lots of text
[03:44] <iiiears> bet you a "buck" everything is fine chicken man
[03:44] <brenner> *flooding
[03:44] <chicken-man> lol
[03:45] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell borfast about pastebin
[03:45] <borfast> brenner: but why paste it there and not here, if I want you guys to see what I'm writing? I don't get it... :|
[03:45] <borfast> wow, that's a cool bot :)
[03:45] <thoreauputic> borfast: you give us the URL
[03:45] <borfast> thanks, EasterSunshine :)
[03:46] <borfast> good idea
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> borfast: it obnoxiously takes up room, and wastes everyones time and bandwidth, especially the servers
[03:46] <iiiears> ubotu you are a genious
[03:46] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, iiiears
[03:46] <funkyHat> borfast, because the channel moves fast enough as it is, and flooding pisses people off
[03:46] <borfast> yeah, I get it, now :)
[03:46] <funkyHat> :)
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> borfast: there are 488 nicks that will receive five or more obnoxous lines on the screen when only about three or so have to
[03:46] <kemik> and if everyone were to paste, there would be chaos
[03:47] <jblu> can someone tell me what I need to use to convert .aif files to wav?  What app?
[03:47] <EasterSunshine> not to mention that the server will drop you after five lines
[03:47] <thoreauputic> kemik: there isn't already chaos?
[03:47] <funkyHat> hehe
[03:47] <iiiears> Easter. - beginning to see it the way server ops see things
[03:47] <kemik> thoreauputic:  well, even more so ;)
[03:47] <iiiears> much better to          ubotu "tell" a nick
[03:48] <thoreauputic> iiiears: except that people never check their /msg
[03:48] <martin-> topyli: what's "breezy"?
[03:48] <iiiears> lol - (shrug) - ya know we just can't win. - grin
[03:48] <EasterSunshine> martin-: the upcoming new release of ubuntu/kubunut
[03:49] <topyli> martin-: unstable ubuntu, the next release
[03:49] <crevette> I try to install the nvidia modules for Video card, but I've a dependency pb regarding xlibmesa-glu libglu or libglu1
[03:49] <kemik> and someppl dont even read what's going on in the channel.. even tho they want help :/
[03:49] <crevette> this is due to the mesa migration in breezy ?
[03:51] <crevette> There is a way to resov that, or do IO have to wait for the migration ?
[03:51] <funkyHat> according to this page: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg i need to add some lines to xorg.conf to get GLX and composite working together, it says the second 'driver' section, but i've only got one :S
[03:51] <Freggy> Does someone know where to file bugs about f-spot in Ubuntu Breezy? There does not seem to be a component f-spot in bugzilla.
[03:51] <jpfarias> hey
[03:51] <crevette> Freduardo_> f-spot in not supported
[03:51] <funkyHat> can anyone tell me where i should put it?
[03:51] <crevette> ie not in main
[03:52] <jpfarias> anyone got problems with flash applets on firefox?
[03:52] <crevette> funkyHat> gnome bugzilla
[03:52] <crevette> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:52] <snippy> ok I'm out of here
[03:52] <crevette> It's the better for all gnome component
[03:52] <jpfarias> It appears some fonts are missing
[03:52] <funkyHat> crevette, i'm not reporting a bug, i'm asking where to add a line to my xorg.conf
[03:52] <snippy> thanks thoreauputic and HappyFool for your help!! :)) *hugs* byebye
[03:52] <d>  I'm currently running Kubuntu Hoary w/ KDE 3.4.2. If I upgrade the kernel, will a 'Suspend to disk' option appear under the KDE shutdown menu? What kernel version do I need?
[03:52] <crevette> funkyHat> report bugs in ubuntu.org only if it is a building issue
[03:53] <HappyFool> snippy: ok, sorry it didn't work out
[03:53] <thoreauputic> snippy: bye :)
[03:53] <crevette> houps
[03:53] <funkyHat> crevette, it's not a bug!
[03:53] <crevette> Freggy> I mean
[03:53] <borfast> crap... my first try at the pastebin went wrong... the darn thing is not breaking lines and they went way past the browser width :\
[03:53] <snippy> HappyFool, it's ok;)
[03:53] <snippy> byee
[03:53] <Freggy> hm, ok, thanks, I'll check with latest upstream sources and file a bug on gnome bugzilla...
[03:53] <martin-> topyli: So not an repos i can add?
[03:54] <FortMa1> How do I configure my sound card in Ubuntu? I'm acustomed to using alsaconf, but that does not appear to installed and apt-get reports It's not available. Synaptic reports alsaconf conflicts w/other packages.
[03:54] <d> what version # did suspend to disk enter the kernel?
[03:54] <topyli> martin-: sure. i'd add the breezy deb-src repository and build the binary with apt
[03:54] <schlomo> Hi
[03:55] <schlomo> is it possible to use Ubuntu CD to boot directly to the disk ?
[03:55] <jpfarias> can someone help me with missing fonts in flash applets?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !sound
[03:55] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:55] <topyli> martin-: since you build the package on your system, there should be no dependency conflicts and synaptic will stop complaining about broken packages
[03:56] <iiiears> Good Morning schlomo
[03:56] <iiiears> boot from the live cd and have access to the hard drives?
[03:56] <d> Do I need to upgrade to breezy of can I just update the kernel to get suspend to disk?
[03:56] <schlomo> nope
[03:56] <borfast> ok, so now I post the URL here and wait for someone to see it and reply?
[03:57] <schlomo> problem to boot to serial ATA disk
[03:57] <borfast> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1433
[03:57] <brenner> *chuckle*
[03:58] <iiiears> not familiar with them -sorry
[03:58] <thoreauputic> borfast: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:59] <brenner> borfast: general idea is to paste console output, errors and such.....and although you've done this, you've pasted a description really,....first time i've seen that :)
[03:59] <borfast> thoreauputic: I already did that before starting to install vmware-tools
[03:59] <sfacius> hi at all
[03:59] <Bjorn1> can somebody help me a sec
[03:59] <Bjorn1> i'm in the text mode
[03:59] <Bjorn1> but how do i start x again ?
[04:00] <sfacius> how i can modify mouse themes in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dsas> type startx
[04:00] <borfast> brenner: sorry, first time using pastebin, I wasn't sure what I should type :\
[04:00] <iiiears> "tartx"
[04:00] <Bjorn1> oh lol dsas
[04:00] <Bjorn1> i used start x
[04:00] <Bjorn1> -_-
[04:00] <Bjorn1> thanks anyway :D
[04:00] <thoreauputic> borfast: funny, the $(uname -r) should include the -386
[04:00] <brenner> borfast: no, i wasn't grumbling...just the first time i've seen that....might actually be a good idea :)
[04:00] <sfacius> how i can modify mouse themes in ubunt?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> borfast: what you pasted is fine
[04:01] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:01] <deFrysk> sfacius, gcursor
[04:01] <Bjorn1> brb going to connect trough my ubuntu pc
[04:01] <sfacius> thx
[04:01] <sfacius> :D
[04:01] <dsas> you should use `uname -r` shouldn't ou?
[04:01] <dsas> i.e. include the backticks
[04:01] <thoreauputic> dsas: same thing
[04:01] <dsas> ahh ok
[04:01] <borfast> thoreauputic: I have both the kernel headers and even the kernel source (which shouldn't be necessary) in /usr/src but the darn thing says the kernel versions (the running kernel and the kernel-headers) don't match. I actually used Synaptic and not the command line apt-get
[04:01] <thoreauputic> $(uname -r) does the same as `uname -r`
[04:01] <Bjorn1> Back
[04:02] <Bjorn1> =]
[04:02] <dsas> thoreauputic: didn't know that, noted.
[04:02] <thoreauputic> borfast: try the command I gave - maybe your kernel has been updated?
[04:02] <Bjorn1> I've another problem whenever i enable my nvidia 7800 gtx card my screen turns black :(
[04:02] <Bjorn1> And i need to disable the nvidia thing
[04:02] <Bjorn1> =/
[04:03] <thoreauputic> dsas: $(uname -r) is arguably more readable :)
[04:03] <schlomo> I have to disable RAID for Ide and SATA
[04:03] <borfast> thoreauputic: it was but it was updated right before trying to install vmware-tools. this is a completely fresh instalation of ubuntu, I just did an "apt-get update; apt-get" upgrade after installing
[04:04] <martin-> topyli: sounds good, what's the address of the repos?
[04:04] <borfast> thoreauputic: oh, and I uncommented the Universe repository in sources.list (not sure if it influences the kernel packages)
[04:04] <iiiears> !repos
[04:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:04] <thoreauputic> borfast: I was just thinking you might have selected the wrong package in synaptic - the literal command would make sure of it
[04:05] <borfast> thoreauputic: yeah, I'm going to try the shell command
[04:05] <brady> hello
[04:05] <thoreauputic> borfast: BTW I know nothing about vmware ;)
[04:05] <topyli> martin-: you can copy the "breezy sources" lines from my sources.list http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list
[04:06] <spola> i wanna buy a webcam, but im specifically looking for one that will work with ubuntu: is there a list of verified to work webcams online?
[04:06] <borfast> thoreauputic: lol. no problem, this has nothing to do with VMware itself, I think. it's just about the naming of the kernel and kernel-headers versions
[04:06] <Bjorn1> anyone :)?
[04:06] <martin-> topyli: thx
[04:07] <Alex> Hey everyone.
[04:07] <brady> I have a question about Ubuntu...This is also my first experience with linux.  It seems that there is no real video acceleration (i.e. some of the 3d screensavers seem terribly slow for what is being displayed).  Is there something I am missing?
[04:07] <m0biu5> hi Alex =)
[04:07] <dsas> Bjorn1: you did make a backup of your X config file? right?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> yes
[04:07] <Alex> Right - odd question - my LUG is using Ubuntu for an install day. Anyone got a bunch of really *mouthwatering* shots of Ubuntu's default install?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> But where is it located dsas  ?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> I just started 2 days ago
[04:07] <Bjorn1> :/
[04:08] <dsas> Bjorn1: if you didn't make a backup manually then one won't have been made.
[04:08] <brenner> spola: your lucky day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:08] <Bjorn1> oh
[04:08] <spola> woow, it IS my lucky day!
[04:08] <Bjorn1> dsas, it said backup too blabla
[04:08] <Bjorn1> ;x
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: it's probably in /etc/X11/ then
[04:09] <topyli> Alex: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=1
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: or in your home directory
[04:09] <brenner> Alex: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Ubuntu504-1.png
[04:09] <Alex> Hmm
[04:09] <Alex> Thanks
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: You're looking for a xorg.conf or similar.
[04:09] <Alex> topyli++
[04:09] <Alex> brenner++
[04:09] <Alex> :)
[04:09] <brenner> actaully, not quite default :)
[04:10] <topyli> Alex: for a mouthwatering shot unlike those, see http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg :)
[04:10] <Alex> Thanks.
[04:10] <Alex> Anyone know if mako hangs around here?
[04:10] <borfast> thoreauputic: I think you hit the nail on the head - I do have a kernel-headers directory in /usr/src but there's no kernel-headers package installed - don't know why, I installed it and the files are there..... :|
[04:10] <brenner> topyli: cheater! that's not default!
[04:10] <brenner> :D
[04:11] <dsas> #ubuntu-devel
[04:11] <thoreauputic> borfast: note that in ubuntu it's "linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[04:11] <dsas> whoops
[04:11] <Alex> Thanks, dsas :)
[04:11] <topyli> brenner: not by a long shot :)
[04:12] <topyli> brenner: i did link to osdir's screenshots as well though
[04:12] <thoreauputic> borfast:  dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r) to see where the files install
[04:13] <brenner> ubotu: hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:13] <thoreauputic> -----------> coffee brb
[04:13] <ubotu> brenner: okay
[04:13] <brenner> topyli: lucky break :)
[04:13] <brenner> i'll let you off this time
[04:14] <Alex> Yeah, we partially forgive you - if anyone does have a screenshot to show off though, gimme a shout in privmsg, and I might bung it on the website.
[04:14] <zapada> will ubuntu work with my usb flash stick?
[04:14] <Alex> zapada: Most probably.
[04:14] <zapada> what about digital cameras>?
[04:15] <Alex> Which camera?
[04:15] <dsas> zapada: depends on the camera
[04:15] <topyli> zapada: most of them work as simple usb drives
[04:15] <zapada> sony something
[04:15] <brenner> Alex: there are stacks of gnome desktops out there...which is pretty much *the* DE most ubuntu user's will use
[04:15] <Alex> My digi cam treats it as a USB drive
[04:15] <zapada> cool
[04:15] <guzu> mass storage device
[04:15] <Alex> brenner: Hehe :) I know - this is for new users, so we're aiming to be promoting the default
[04:16] <zapada> is there a good dvd authoring program for linux?
[04:16] <zapada> like sony's vegas/dvd architect
[04:16] <zapada> or i would just be able to wine it?
[04:17] <dsas> zapada: my digicam prompts me to copy photos when i plug it in (kodak)
[04:17] <eliphas_> I am sure one should exist
[04:17] <eliphas_> try sourceforge
[04:18] <plb> hrm does breezy colony 3 have gtk + cairo?
[04:18] <martin-> topyli: I installed the breezy src line in sources.list. I also see the repos in synpacitc but when i search; no openmsx
[04:18] <topyli> martin-: synaptic doesn't do source packages. use apt
[04:19] <topyli> martin-: apt-get update; apt-get build-depend foo; apt-get -b source foo
[04:20] <thoreauputic> apt-get build-dep  actually
[04:20] <topyli> thoreauputic: oh yeah!
[04:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:21] <karljp> anyone know why I have dvd audio with mplayer, but not with totem or xine?
[04:22] <sfacius> hi at all
[04:22] <sfacius> i want to modify theme of mouse but gcursor doesn't recognise index.theme. Why?
[04:22] <sneezymarble> I'm trying to install "nvidia-glx" through synaptic and before the file even downloads a dialogue pops up asking me to put the Ubunutu Installation CD in the drive.    Thanks.  I'm very new with Ubuntu...and linux :0)
[04:24] <aima_> but at leat mirc doesn't crash when i load a script
[04:24] <Bjorn1> =]
[04:24] <brenner> Bjorn1: but does it have cool triggers? :)
[04:24] <Bjorn1> brenner, i only use it for chatting
[04:24] <jdahm> hey anyone here have any tips on how to clean the head on my printer?
[04:24] <Bjorn1> nothing else ;D
[04:25] <brenner> Bjorn1: j/k....this conversation came up half an hour ago
[04:25] <brenner> :)
[04:25] <Bjorn1> oh
[04:25] <Bjorn1> Darn you :(
[04:25] <sneezymarble> brenner:  I'm sorry if this is an inane question...but, how do I do what you have suggested?
[04:25] <brenner> jdahm: that's very ubuntu-related :D
[04:25] <Alex> How much diskspace does the Ubuntu default (everything) take?
[04:25] <sfacius> thoreauputic the themes weren't installed
[04:25] <brenner> sneezymarble: do you know how to use synaptic/apt-get ?
[04:25] <jdahm> brenner, well I installed ubuntu and suddenly my printer makes sounds when it prints and then I cant clean it because theres no app for that
[04:26] <sneezymarble> brenner:  not really
[04:26] <aima_> jdahm, what kind of sounds?
[04:26] <brenner> Alex: 1.8gb typical
[04:26] <aima_> maybe a family of mice moved in
[04:26] <brenner> Alex: 350mb minimal
[04:26] <jdahm> aima_, normals sounds of a dirty head some scratching and I get lines in the test page where there should be color
[04:26] <brenner> sneezymarble: sys > admin > synaptic
[04:27] <Alex> brenner: Typical is what we're aiming at. Thanks
[04:27] <sneezymarble> brenner:  I understand if you don't want to explain it.  I believe I saw a tuturial on apt-get in the wiki.
[04:27] <shinu> hey
[04:27] <topyli> i should clean up
[04:27] <aima_> jdahm, is that what happened before you used linux when the head was dirty?
[04:27] <sneezymarble> I'll check there and see if I can figure it out.
[04:27] <shinu> anyone know more or less how long would an installation of ubuntu take?
[04:27] <martin-> topyli: did apt-get update but these 2 other commands won't work
[04:27] <brenner> sneezymarble: no, no biggie.....the wiki probably would explain it better anyway :)
[04:27] <apella> sorry to be irritating, but could you tell me again how to shut down the x-server? i accidently turned this thing off:)
[04:28] <damotor> hi
[04:28] <sneezymarble> brenner:  thank you though
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: but what you're doing is very easy, i can walk you through
[04:28] <topyli> martin-: i made a typo. it's "apt-get build-dep" not build-depend
[04:28] <HappyFool> apella: maybe Ctl-Alt-Backspace ?
[04:28] <jdahm> aima_, yeah the printer sucks I always had to clean the head a lot and there was an app for it in windows
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: open a terminal
[04:28] <sneezymarble> ok
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !start an irc client war
[04:28] <aima_> apella, "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg stop" should do it
[04:28] <ubotu> irssi is better than konversation !
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: type that
[04:28] <apella> thx
[04:28] <brenner> or copy and paste :P
[04:29] <martin-> topyli: and what stand "foo" for?
[04:29] <sneezymarble> ok
[04:29] <aima_> i hope that's what apella meant
[04:29] <brenner> sneezymarble: did a file open up?
[04:29] <sneezymarble> yes
[04:29] <topyli> martin-: your package name. openmsx?
[04:29] <aima_> jdahm, is it an epson printer?
[04:29] <brenner> sneezymarble: see the top line.... it should have CD there somewhere
[04:29] <nerp> yeah, speaking of sources.list anyone have a list of repositories that actually work?
[04:29] <Brenton_> hey all, I'm having issues with my network card in ubuntu
[04:29] <HappyFool> !repos
[04:29] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:29] <sneezymarble> yes it does
[04:29] <nerp> seems like the mirrors I have are somewhat bungled
[04:29] <HappyFool> the second link should be a working sample sources.list
[04:29] <jdahm> aima_, yeah
[04:30] <brenner> sneezymarble: comment it out by putting a # character at the start of the line
[04:30] <topyli> martin-: also note that in my sources.list the source lines are commented
[04:30] <sneezymarble> gotcha
[04:30] <martin-> topyli: yes, i removed the "#"
[04:30] <aima_> jdahm, sounds like it :) there is an epson utility, I only used it once, it came on a magazine cover
[04:30] <brenner> sneezymarble: you might want to enable universe and multiverse while you're at it
[04:30] <Brenton_> I've tested the card on another computer and it's working fine, ubuntu is recognizing the card, but does not get an IP address
[04:30] <aima_> jdahm, it may even be in the apt repository
[04:30] <jdahm> I checked ut I didnt see anything aima_
[04:30] <aima_> it has mostly the same functions as the windows one iirc
[04:31] <sneezymarble> hmm, ok I see some universe stuff and I imagine I need to remove the #
[04:31] <brenner> sneezymarble: yep, you can do that by removing the # character at the start of these two lines:
[04:31] <brenner> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:31] <brenner> deb-src ftp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:31] <martin-> topyli: is there a file where i can lokup taht package name?
[04:31] <brenner> shoops
[04:31] <brenner> *whoops
[04:31] <brenner> second one should be: deb-src ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:32] <aima_> jdahm, escputil if it's an epson stylus
[04:32] <sneezymarble> brenner:  thank you very much
[04:32] <brenner> i'm assuming you don't want to use an australian mirror :)
[04:32] <brenner> sneezymarble: no probs, save and close
[04:32] <brenner> sneezymarble: then type: sudo apt-get update
[04:32] <topyli> martin-: use the web search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <sneezymarble> I'm downloading and installing "nvidia-glx" right now
[04:32] <shin> !list
[04:32] <ubotu> list is probably you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:32] <topyli> martin-: remember to use "breezy" for the distribution
[04:33] <thoreauputic> brenner: actually last I checked the  au mirror pointed at the uk one (go figure)
[04:33] <damotor> some time ago I compiled a wireless driver module that wwasn't included in the ubuntu kernel; may the module I compiled stop working if I update the kernel version?
[04:33] <brenner> thoreauputic: really?
[04:33] <brenner> thoreauputic: that's rather naughty
[04:34] <aima_> jdahm, right going to do some gardening, i hope your printer gets better soon
[04:34] <brenner> thoreauputic: or doesn't au stand for what it's meant to?
[04:34] <jdahm> aima_, alright thanks
[04:34] <Bjorn1> australia or austria
[04:34] <Bjorn1> both are au
[04:34] <Bjorn1> :o
[04:34] <shin> italiani?
[04:34] <thoreauputic>  host archive.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <thoreauputic> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:34] <HappyFool> brenner: i think uk is the 'main' repo; if a mirror doesn't exist, that is used a placeholder
[04:35] <brenner> Bjorn1: austria : at
[04:35] <Spasm> hai smua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:35] <brenner> Bjorn1: at least i think so
[04:35] <HappyFool> afaik the south africa 'mirror' points to the uk one as well
[04:35] <thoreauputic> host au.archive.ubuntu.com  au.archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:36] <brenner> thoreauputic: heh....so i assume you don't use them?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> brenner: I just use the au one since it's the same anyway and works fine ;)
[04:36] <brenner> heh, ok then. :)
[04:37] <brenner> what about asian mirrors?  they're closer aren't they?
[04:37] <brenner> i don't know why i'm asking...i'm on dialup!
[04:37] <brenner> doesn't make much of a diff. :D
[04:38] <thoreauputic> brenner: same here :)
[04:38] <Mabus> hi, can anyone help me with Eclipse ( https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1800 ) ?
[04:38] <nerp> oddly enough public.planetmirror.com isn't working for me..
[04:38] <nerp> before it was ftp2.caliu.info
[04:38] <thoreauputic> nerp: someone else had the same issue a while ago
[04:39] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[04:39] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:39] <nerp> thoreauputic: any solutions offered/found?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> nerp: use ubotu's URLs above
[04:39] <nerp> rgr
[04:39] <thoreauputic> mirrormax
[04:39] <martin-> topyli: Ok the second command worked but the last one gave:
[04:39] <Belutz> topyli: how to change the desktop font color from white to black?
[04:39] <chriszanf> im trying to install oss drivers and have to do it when logged out of X - when I do this I cant gain su staus to install. anyone know any answers?
[04:40] <martin-> dpkg-source: extracting openmsx in openmsx-0.5.2
[04:40] <martin-> sh: line 0: cd: openmsx-0.5.2: No such file or directory
[04:40] <topyli> Belutz: i have no idea :(
[04:40] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: sudo -i
[04:40] <Belutz> topyli:  :)
[04:40] <nerp> thanks
[04:40] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: sorry that was for you ^^^
[04:41] <nerp> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[04:41] <chriszanf> so when ive logged out I just do: sudo -i   ?
[04:41] <nerp> planetmirror is usually overloaded
[04:41] <nerp> if it loads i'll leave it be for now
[04:41] <chriszanf> cool - thanks
[04:41] <martin-> topily: Or do i need to put something else for "source"?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[04:41] <topyli> martin-: maybe it's broken. is there in fact such a directory (openmsx-0.5.2)?
[04:41] <jdahm> ok I got the utility, but where in /dev/ is my printer (its USB1)
[04:42] <gfxstyler> hey there!!
[04:43] <topyli> martin-: i think the command is ok
[04:43] <Kudozero> hi to everyone... Sex&Longlive
[04:44] <topyli> martin-: if the package got extracted, you can do "fakeroot debian/rules" in the openmsx source dir
[04:44] <martin-> topyli: It was, my current dir was /cdrom ;))))
[04:44] <topyli> martin-: :)
[04:44] <nerp> bah, closed wrong window
[04:44] <Stiivi> hi
[04:44] <martin-> topyli: Alright, looks like it's compiling
[04:45] <martin-> topyli: what do those 3 commands do (trying to learn something)?
[04:45] <nerp> yay
[04:45] <nerp> woked finally :D
[04:45] <martin-> topyli: and what does "fakeroot" do?
[04:45] <topyli> martin-: update updates your package lists, build-dep gets all packages needed to compile the new package, and the last one compiles and builds the binary
[04:45] <Stiivi> i have migrated from mandrake to ubuntu just yesterday .... finally after solving jfs problem. the distribution looks neat! :)
[04:46] <topyli> mario: fakeroot just runs the rules file, which contains instructions for building the deb
[04:46] <topyli> martin- not mario, sorry :)
[04:46] <Bjorn1> is there an howto
[04:46] <Bjorn1> to compile source files
[04:46] <Bjorn1> :o
[04:46] <brenner> Stiivi: good to hear :)
[04:47] <martin-> topyli: Aha ok, but it doesn't put the files in the right directories? That has to be done manually?
[04:47] <Stiivi> brenner: :)
[04:47] <brenner> Bjorn1: as in install from source?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !compile
[04:47] <ubotu> compile is, like, tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[04:47] <djcb> where can i find xfontsel? it seems to have vanished in breezy lately...
[04:48] <eliphas_> ! compiling
[04:48] <Stiivi> there was too much strange magic in the Mandrake, i gave up fighting with it
[04:48] <eliphas_> !compiling
[04:48] <guzu> how do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?
[04:48] <HappyFool> !samba
[04:48] <ubotu> somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:49] <martin-> toplyi: Normally a debian package chooses the right directories for you, right?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> !compiling
[04:49] <thoreauputic> ah, it's too long for the channel
[04:49] <nerp> Stiivi: what sort of problems did you have with mandrake?
[04:49] <djcb> !xfontsel
[04:49] <ubotu> djcb: Wish i knew
[04:49] <brenner> Stiivi: was my first distro i used at home so i have fond memories.   i didn't know how to get my net connection up though, so i didn't really run into the RPM issues people apparently have.
[04:49] <thoreauputic> !+compiling
[04:49] <ubotu> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[04:49] <guzu> so how do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?
[04:50] <chriszanf> trying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed
[04:50] <Montagh> im getting a slow connection after i installed hoary, is there something i can change or is my isp throttling me for dl too much heh
[04:50] <pumbaa> FUCK OFF
[04:50] <nerp> I've used mandrake since 7.0 up until Le 2005, did ok by me
[04:50] <Stiivi> nerp: many, but the one that was the final drop was that the network configuration was constantly changing even on small updates, so i had to reconfigure whole network when I moved between places
[04:50] <shinu> does ubuntu support widescreen laptops properly?
[04:50] <nerp> but I was looking for a change
[04:50] <brenner> Bjorn1: you can use checkinstall to make a nice deb file which you can then install and remove :)
[04:50] <kafeine> pumbaa was weird.
[04:51] <nerp> so I switched to ubuntu then suse pro 9.3 then debian then mandriva beta 0.2 2006 and back to ubuntu
[04:51] <topyli> martin-: yes, it should be clever
[04:51] <brenner> kafeine: must be looking for timon
[04:51] <kafeine> in a truly weird manner..
[04:51] <nerp> Stiivi: what do you mean changing?
[04:51] <kafeine> shinu, generally yes
[04:52] <shinu> kafeine: k, thanks, i can already see it :)
[04:52] <martin-> topyli: It compiled now, how can i let it do the clever stuff now so everything is put in the right dirs?
[04:52] <Stiivi> anyway, there was too slow startup/unsuspend, broken samba (well, i have not tried that one on ubuntu, that would be the next step), very broken latin-2 support in openoffice (strange font replacements in printing/PDF), weird dead-keys handling on slovak keyboard ... etc...
[04:52] <nerp> I see
[04:52] <topyli> martin-: you should find a deb package in your current dir. use "dpkg -i foo.deb" to install and pray
[04:52] <Stiivi> nerp: i have changed, for example, my IP, and other configuration was lost, like wireless settings or DNS
[04:52] <Stiivi> but it was not predictable
[04:52] <martin-> topyli: there is a .deb file, should i just do dpkg -i that file?
[04:53] <topyli> martin-: yes
[04:53] <martin-> sorry, you already told me, thx
[04:53] <Stiivi> how is it with samba and ubuntu?
[04:53] <Stiivi> i have installed 'bum', but I can not see samba service there even I have samba packages installed
[04:53] <nerp> Stiivi: sounds like you allowed DHCP to change your hostname
[04:53] <brenner> Montagh: browser only?  or every net app?
[04:53] <topyli> martin-: and don't forget to pray: wave a dead chicken on your keyboard while installing :)
[04:53] <Mabus> how would I grep for null (U+0) in a file ?
[04:54] <Stiivi> nerp: no, i never used dhcp  ... it was configuration scripts problem
[04:54] <nerp> oh, interesting
[04:54] <umberleigh> hi. i'm having trouble getting my soundcard to work. every time i login KDE tells me it can't find the device and defaults to /dev/null, also KMix defaults back to using my USB camera/mike instead of my nForce2 soundcard
[04:54] <Montagh> yeah most things are doing it
[04:55] <brenner> ubotu: tell umberleigh about sound
[04:55] <brenner> umberleigh: read those while you wait
[04:55] <nerp> ubotu: gives brenner a beer
[04:55] <ubotu> nerp: Are you smoking crack?
[04:55] <nerp> not yet
[04:55] <nerp> hehe
[04:56] <umberleigh> brenner: thanks
[04:56] <topyli> hah
[04:56] <chriszanf> trying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: give brenner a beer!
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:56] <chriszanf> how do I remove the driver?
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: no, six
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:56] <topyli> heh
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: beer somes in packets of six!
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: I give up, what is it?
[04:57] <martin-> topyli: ;)
[04:57] <nerp> it'd help if I could spell
[04:57] <brenner> Montagh: well, check your usage limit....othwerwise, probably a setup thing you need to sort out
[04:57] <Stiivi> hm, another interesting thing about ubuntu (and perhaps other linux distributions) ... friend of mine started reinstalling windows hour before me
[04:57] <Montagh> ahr ite
[04:58] <nerp> hmm anyone have any idea as to what this might be:
[04:58] <nerp> faen@levity:/etc$ *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[04:58] <nerp> *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[04:58] <brenner> Stiivi: and let me guess, you beat him? :D
[04:58] <nerp> when using gedit
[04:58] <_SWAT_> Just read about SHA-1 being easily falsified. Is there any way to 'standard' increase your login (and more) to SHA-512 ?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> nerp: it's just a warning - you can usually ignore those
[04:59] <Michael> Hi, I have a problem with mi wifi conection. Installed the drivers with ndiswrapper and all is ok. But I don't sent or recieve nothing
[04:59] <Stiivi> ... when I have finished, mounted my old /home partition and played with my documents in OO.org to see whether it works ... he was finishing network configuration and starting to install other software, such as antivirus :)
[04:59] <chriszanf> does anyone know or am I wasting my time here?
[04:59] <brenner> Stiivi: lol...i knew it...
[04:59] <Stiivi> :)
[04:59] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: or possibly your question needs rephrasing
[04:59] <brenner> Stiivi: did the docs work in OO? :D
[04:59] <Stiivi> sure :)
[05:00] <brenner> lol
[05:00] <Montagh> sudo apt-get install life.deb
[05:00] <brenner> Stiivi: so why haven't you converted him/her yet? :P
[05:00] <Mabus> I'm getting tons of "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." when running apt
[05:01] <Mabus> after using the language chooser thingy
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Mabus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:02] <chriszanf> ok - Im trying to install oss sound drivers. when I run the install it says: "you appear to have the kernel level sound module being loaded automagically by the kerneld daemon" It suggests logging out of X session and trying there. When I do that, it says exactly the same thing. How do I stop the kernel daemon loading the sound module?
[05:02] <Stiivi> brenner: games, games and ... well ... games :-/
[05:02] <brenner> Stiivi: dualboot
[05:02] <Mabus> thoreauputic: Would I have to restart to get things to re-read the locales ?
[05:02] <Mabus> after running reconfigure
[05:02] <Stiivi> brenner: too complicated (for standard user)
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Mabus: don't know - probably logout/login
[05:03] <Mabus> right, thanks alot
[05:03] <hardw1re> anyone here managed to get Gaim-w to compile on the x86_64 system?
[05:03] <brenner> chriszanf: how are you logging out?
[05:04] <Belutz> how to apt-get install when i don't know exactly the package name?
[05:04] <chriszanf> i was using /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:04] <hardw1re> apt-cache search <name>
[05:04] <Stiivi> on the other hand ... allways when I try to convert someone at least to OO if not to a Linux distro, iam confronted with a question: "and why would someone do it for free?"
[05:04] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: I don't understand why you are installing oss - ubuntu uses alsa
[05:04] <brenner> chriszanf: and then ctrl+alt+backspace? iirc
[05:04] <Stiivi> and that is the most difficult question to answer
[05:05] <endgamer> I have a question, and believe me I've been all round the houses and tried every possible resource to get this answered - I've been at it for over 4 hours and I'm going spare - I've just installed a new 5.04 Ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to upgrade glibc - the source won't compile and I can't find a package anywhere. Could someone help before I snap? :-)
[05:05] <chriszanf> i have m-audio delta 66 and it doesnt seem to work
[05:05] <jbailey> endgamer: Upgrading glibc beyond what's there is usually a mistake.
[05:05] <chriszanf> when i went to masudio's site, the linux driver they point to is oss
[05:05] <umberleigh> how do i manually free the sound card / check to see if anything's using it?
[05:05] <jbailey> endgamer: What problem are you trying to solve?
[05:05] <brenner> Stiivi: really?  when i tell people stuffs free, they don't really care about where it came from :)
[05:05] <hardw1re> # Upgrading glibc is highly dangerous, so we recommend in this situation that you
[05:05] <hardw1re> # compile the app you want to install from the sources if possible. Sorry :(
[05:05] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: oss is a kernel 2.4 thing - 2.6.* uses alsa
[05:06] <hardw1re> so where can i get the glibc source?
[05:06] <endgamer> Trying to install software to handle my MP3 player - it needs glibc-2.3.4 at least...
[05:07] <Stiivi> umberleigh: lsof  | grep /dev/mixer
[05:07] <jbailey> Err.
[05:07] <jbailey> If you compile your own glibc, you face a VERY high probably of breaking your system completely, just don't do it.
[05:07] <Stiivi> brenner: hm, people, usualy from business, are very skeptical to free stuff as they know that "there is no such thing as free lunch"
[05:07] <jbailey> If you need the newer glibc, upgrade your whole system to breezy.  You'll be far better off.
[05:07] <endgamer> Crapola. And you can't use a package?
[05:07] <jbailey> All of the bumps and pain of breezy will be far *less* than if you build your own glibc.
[05:08] <endgamer> Breezy? New Ubuntu? I didn't see it on the lists...
[05:08] <Belutz> if i want to compile something, do i have to install libxxx-dev packages?
[05:08] <jbailey> It's not released yet.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: Free as in Freedom <----
[05:08] <mark__> whats the linux-image-2.6.10-5.1686/386 update in the repositorie is it necessary?
[05:08] <endgamer> Ah...
[05:08] <brenner> Stiivi: ah, that's probably it....most people i know aren't of the business age.
[05:08] <Stiivi> thoreauputic: but they think of "free as in free beer" and that is the source of the problem
[05:08] <jbailey> endgamer: It's due out in 6 weeks, though, so it's pretty close.
[05:08] <jbailey> There are still bumps though.
[05:09] <endgamer> Not release as in can't-get-it-at-all or not released as in use-it-at-your-own-risk? <g>
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: yes, I know :/ English has a problem with that
[05:09] <Stiivi> thoreauputic: not only english
[05:09] <hardw1re> O_o
[05:09] <Apurva> hi there ....
[05:09] <Apurva> newbie in the house
[05:10] <brenner> Stiivi: he's an aussie....his bias comes out sometimes :)
[05:10] <Stiivi> :)
[05:10] <Apurva> anyone around to lend a lil help here ?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: hence "libre"
[05:10] <Stiivi> i see
[05:10] <ook_> hey... can I install 32bit ubuntu if I  have 64bit AMD processor...? ubuntu as 64 is causing some problems with some software
[05:10] <chriszanf> OK - Im playing an mp3 now and have no sound - I have gone to the volume control - selected my sound card delta 66 [alsa]  and still have no sound
[05:10] <thoreauputic> brenner: hmm - I grew up in Switzerland
[05:10] <hardw1re> ook_ yeah i think you can
[05:10] <eliphas_> chrissturm, check if anything else use the sound already
[05:10] <Apurva> anyone ?
[05:10] <Stiivi> well, in slovak some people use translation of free as "freely distributeable"
[05:10] <mjr> ook_, yes
[05:11] <guzu> now, it looks like after the installation of the last linux-image (or sthing like this) my apt-get keeps ending in segmentation fault. anyone any aidea, please?
[05:11] <Stiivi> but people do not get it
[05:11] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: ignore brenner - he's an Aussie ;)
[05:11] <chriszanf> how do I check if something is?
[05:11] <guzu> aidea/idea
[05:11] <HappyFool> Apurva: ask your question; if someone knows, they'll help
[05:11] <ook_> ok, thanks
[05:11] <umberleigh> lsof | grep /dev/mixer turns up nothing, though lsof | /dev/snd/* says 'File descriptor in bad state' for a few things
[05:11] <brenner> thoreauputic: lol
[05:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:11] <brenner> i was waiting for that
[05:11] <endgamer> Jbailey? Is it possible to get a beta download? Or is it totally unavailable?
[05:12] <brenner> endgamer: lots of people are running it now...use at your own risk though afaik
[05:12] <Apurva> i am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?
[05:12] <guzu> nobody :(
[05:12] <topyli> endgamer: you can upgrade but that's at your own risk
[05:12] <hardw1re> anyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities?
[05:12] <jbailey> endgamer: Sure, just change your sources to point to breezy instead of hoary.  I still don't recommend doing this.  But it'll be FAR nicer than updating your own glibc.
[05:12] <hardw1re> anyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities? x86_64 system
[05:13] <endgamer> Ooookay...well, it's a new installation so I don't mind breaking it, I can always start again from scratch. Thank you SO much guys, you wouldn't believe how much aggravation and pain this has caused me. You are alll the man...
[05:13] <guzu> hardw1re, maybe gnomemeeting
[05:13] <jbailey> Ooo, a collective singular.
[05:13] <hardw1re> but does gnomemeeting work over msn? :P
[05:14] <chriszanf> ha....just inserted a cd and now cd player closes immediately.   how can I checxk if somehting else is using the soundcard?
[05:14] <thoreauputic> jbailey:  /join #grammar-geeks  ;-)
[05:14] <Apurva> i am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?
[05:14] <jbailey> thoreauputic: *lol*
[05:14] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[05:14] <guzu> hardw1re, i've heard it's the only thing it works over with webcam capabilities
[05:15] <selinium> Hi all, i have started to get error message 'Failed to run nautilus: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.' while trying to gksudo nautilus. Any ideas?
[05:15] <brenner> thoreauputic: for some reason i always join the joke channels to see if they actually exist :)
[05:15] <hardw1re> ok, ummm, well, when i have my webcam plugged in it causes certain things to not work properly, such like Counter-Strike Source.
[05:15] <thoreauputic> brenner: of course they exist - you just are in aminority of one in them ;)
[05:15] <hardw1re> my webcam also has a built in microphone
[05:16] <brenner> ah, of course. :)
[05:16] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[05:17] <brenner> anyway, where has nalioth been lately?
[05:17] <endgamer> Uh-oh...I changed the repositories but glibc still isn't on any of the lists...am I being dumb?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> brenner: of course if you have doubts about their existence you can /join #epistemology
[05:18] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:18] <surfdue> in xine and totem
[05:18] <surfdue> i cant play .wmv
[05:18] <thoreauputic> selinium: hello :)
[05:18] <surfdue> is there a way 2 do this
[05:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: d'oh, I actually thought it existed for a second
[05:18] <thoreauputic> surfdue:  install w32codecs
[05:18] <brenner> thoreauputic: scary...one person in there.
[05:18] <hardw1re> guzu: any idea why my webcam causes the system to not run smoothly?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> hahah