[00:00] <mustu> nvidia 96, 173 and 185
[00:00] <coz_> mustu,   generally it is safe to download the most current one
[00:01] <coz_> mustu, in your case the 185
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> mustu: which nvidia chip do you have?
[00:01] <mustu> coz_: how you guessed that?
[00:01] <coz_> mustu, is that what is showing in  jockey-gtk?
[00:01] <coz_> mustu,  open a terminal and copy paste this command   lspci | grep -i vga
[00:02] <mustu> ActionParsnip: It's Dell N5110 .. not sure about the chip name/version
[00:02] <mustu> coz_:  I di dinstalled the suggested driver in jockey-gtk but it's not working.. it says it's installed but not in use currently
[00:03] <coz_> mustu,  did you reboot the computer after installing it?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> mustu: http://laptopsoft.com/dell-inspiron-15r-n5110-review-and-specifications   says it's an Ati or an Intel
[00:03] <mustu> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[00:03] <mustu> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0df5 (rev a1)
[00:03] <mustu> coz_: yes I did
[00:03] <coz_> ooo
[00:03] <mustu> ActionParsnip: it's nVidia chip in my Dell N5110
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> mustu: hmm, seems it is nvidia http://thetech24.com/gadgets/dell-inspiron-n5110-laptop-features-specs-and-price/
[00:04] <rebba> you need device IDs to find out.  lspci -vvv
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> mustu: just install the nvidia-current package and it will be ok
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> mustu: I assume its not an optimus monstrosity (both intel and nvidia GPUs)
[00:05] <coz_> that would be bad
[00:05] <coz_> depending on whic of the gpu's would be better
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> as long as it's not both
[00:06] <coz_> for sure I have seen odd things happen with both nvidia and intel drivers installed :)
[00:06] <mustu> rebba: there's lot of details but not any model specified
[00:06] <rebba> 0df5
[00:07] <mustu> even for Windows nvidia don't gives the drivers.. it says it's manufectured in collaboration with the dell so Dell will provide the drivers..
[00:07] <i-was-fedora> #suse
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> mustu: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     it will tell you
[00:08] <mustu> ActionParsnip: it says nvidia but not a specific model
[00:09] <MnFisherman> 11.10 help?
[00:09] <mustu> I've installed the nvidia-current
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> MnFisherman: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:09] <mustu> letme reboot
[00:14] <MnFisherman> does the open source driver work better with gnome 3?
[00:17] <SIFTU> mustu is running optimus
[00:18] <tobych> i'm having problems getting my asus netbook running 11.04 connecting to most wifi access points. any ideas
[00:19] <i-was-fedora> tobych, may you specify , explain ....
[00:20] <tobych> i-was-fedora, it's just not connecting. using gnome. where might i see diagnostics for whatever's managing for me?
[00:20] <SubCool> can i boot off an ubuntu 9.04 disk, and install 11.04 Kubuntu off a liveUSB?
[00:21] <i-was-fedora> tobych, you capture strong signal from network ?? it may be weak one
[00:22] <tobych> yes, very strong. looks like diags are in syslog.
[00:27] <tobych> DHCPDISCOVER is taking aaaages
[00:27] <tobych> DHCPv4 request timed out.
[00:28]  * i-was-fedora ask tobych to check priv.
[00:29] <tobych> i-was-fedora, priv?
[00:29] <famine> im on a laptop, when I close my lid the laptop goes into sleep...i dont want to it too....how can I set this up?
[00:30] <xangua> famine: Energy settings
[00:30] <i-was-fedora> tobych, yea
[00:30] <famine> where is that xangua?
[00:30] <famine> or do i have to install that
[00:31] <skpl> can someone tell me how to find out what type of video card i have?
[00:31] <xangua> famine: on your system preferences
[00:31] <SubCool> can i boot off an ubuntu 9.04 disk, and install 11.04 Kubuntu off a liveUSB?
[00:31] <gentoo-intel> skpl, lspci or glxinfo
[00:31] <OerHeks> skpl open terminal : lspci | grep VGA
[00:31] <[deXter]> Hi all, what is the device path for a cdrom? I'm trtying to mount it from the terminal but there is no /dev/cdrom ..
[00:31] <xangua> SubCool: you can install 11.04 from an 11.04 lice cd/usb
[00:32] <xangua> live*
[00:32] <gentoo-intel> [deXter], sr0
[00:32] <tobych> famine, if using gnome, use System > Preferences > Power Management
[00:32] <[deXter]> gentoo-intel: There is no sr0 either :/
[00:32] <gentoo-intel> cdrom should be linked to sr0
[00:32] <famine> xangua, i cant seem to find it...im running 11.10 tho...
[00:32] <xangua> !oneiric | famine
[00:32] <gentoo-intel> [deXter], oh ok. not sure then :s is it an ide drive? or sata?
[00:33] <gentoo-intel> not sure if that changes the device path
[00:33] <[deXter]> gentoo-intel: It's an IDE drive
[00:33] <kaushal> Hi
[00:33] <gentoo-intel> i think they should be all the same anyway
[00:33] <gentoo-intel> with the up to date kernel drivers
[00:33] <skpl> gentoo-intel, does that work for a laptop?
[00:34] <gentoo-intel> skpl, it makes no difference, its linux commands. nothing to do with being laptop or not
[00:34] <skpl> ok, thanks
[00:34] <[deXter]> Is there any way I can find out the path, gentoo-intel ?
[00:34] <gentoo-intel> [deXter], does eject /dev/sr0 do anything?
[00:34] <kaushal> is there a way to pull file size of 4GB from remote server quickly using USB data card 52% 2106MB 105.8KB/s 5:03:56 ETA
[00:34] <[deXter]> gentoo-intel: Yep, it does eject the drive
[00:35] <kaushal> for example breaking it into smaller chunk size
[00:35] <gentoo-intel> ok, so it is sr0 then
[00:35] <gentoo-intel> no idea why its not showing in /dev/ though
[00:35] <[deXter]> Hmm, lemme try mounting it anyways
[00:35] <kaushal> its been going on for almost 12 hours
[00:35] <wem> #ubuntu-es
[00:35] <wem> o.0
[00:36] <gentoo-intel> [deXter], try it itll prob work if eject works
[00:37] <[deXter]> gentoo-intel: It wasn't mounting, saying that it's a bad filesystem
[00:37] <[deXter]> gentoo-intel: I think that's because the CD is copy-protected
[00:37] <gentoo-intel> no idea :s
[00:38] <sythe> Hey
[00:38] <gentoo-intel> try a different disk in it
[00:38] <[deXter]> dmesg says I/O error
[00:38] <gentoo-intel> see what happens
[00:38] <sythe> They leaked the new Ubuntu codename
[00:38] <sythe> After oneiric
[00:38] <gentoo-intel> what is it?
[00:38] <sythe> It's Pontifical Pigeon
[00:39] <gentoo-intel> lol
[00:39] <sythe> What?
[00:39] <sythe> It's true
[00:39] <[deXter]> Pontifical, yep, I would have guessed it for sure.
[00:39] <gentoo-intel> i just love the silly names they come up with
[00:39] <sythe> Lol
[00:39] <sythe> Yeah
[00:39] <xangua> !ot | sythe
[00:39]  * sythe glares at xangua
[00:39]  * sythe departs
[00:40] <i-was-fedora> [deXter], try fdisk -l ??
[00:40] <Phr3d13> ok, trying to get wiican to work with my wiimote, following instructions, but don't get desired results
[00:41] <Phr3d13> anyone ever use this/get it to work?
[00:41] <gentoo-intel> Phr3d13, what kernel?
[00:41] <gentoo-intel> i think 3 or 3.1 has wiimote support
[00:42] <rypervenche> The Ubuntu names are a scheme to get us to learn better English. :P
[00:42] <Phr3d13> 11.04's default
[00:42] <gsr> wiimote works fine with 2.6
[00:43] <gentoo-intel> must just be improved support then in >3
[00:43] <Phr3d13> i can get the wiimote to sync for dolphin, but won't work with wiican
[00:44] <gsr> do you have python-bluez installed?
[00:44] <Phr3d13> can sync with wmgui, but won't sync with wiican
[00:45] <Phr3d13> i believe so, lemme check
[00:45] <Phr3d13> nope, was missing that, installing now
[00:46] <Phr3d13> do i need a reboot after its installed?
[00:46] <Paladinlaw> anyone knows how to fix mysql table read-only? i imported files from windows to linux and all the tables got read-only.
[00:47] <somsip> Paladinlaw: try chown mysql:mysql /etc/lib/mysql/*;
[00:47] <somsip> sorry - add a recursive in there
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: are the files marked as read only? Are they stored on an NTFS partition?
[00:48] <Paladinlaw> somsip: already done that
[00:48] <Paladinlaw> actionparsnip: no they are in xampp
[00:48] <somsip> Paladinlaw: ok - hopefully you did /var/lib/mysql and not what I put...
[00:48] <goingtomoonbrb> Why does Ubuntu come with so many pre-installed SSL certs? ls -l shows a ton of them in my /etc/ssl/certs
[00:49] <Paladinlaw> somsip: i checked the files. they are all chmod 777 and chown to mysql
[00:49] <Paladinlaw> when a script tryies to add something i get table .... is read-only
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: 478 files
[00:50] <tomjr> Hello. Is it possible to commission someone to write Ubuntu hardware drivers for a notebook computer?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: not nore than 1Mb worth of data though
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> tomjr: what hardware and what notebook are you having issue with
[00:51] <goingtomoonbrb> ActionParsnip: I know, I'm just curious why all of those certs are pre-installed.
[00:51] <goingtomoonbrb> meant to say, ls -l shows, by timestamps, a ton of them installed on my date of installation
[00:51] <goingtomoonbrb> from sites I've never visited
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: it's part of ca-certificates package
[00:51] <goingtomoonbrb> ah-ha
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: I guess it makes life easier for new user (which is the audience of Ubuntu) t
[00:52] <Paladinlaw> anyone knows how to fix nvidia max resolution 640x480 problem?
[00:52] <goingtomoonbrb> ActionParsnip: aren't SSL certs downloaded the first time you visit a website anyway?
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: not sure tbh
[00:53] <somsip> Paladinlaw: have privileges been picked up correctlyfor the imported tables?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: set the res and refresh to something, then xclick "save to X config file"
[00:53] <Paladinlaw> somsip: no..
[00:53] <Paladinlaw> actionparsnip: i can only choose 640x480 as max
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: you can then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and set the res you desire
[00:53] <goingtomoonbrb> ActionParsnip: well, thanks
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> goingtomoonbrb: maybe others know why
[00:54] <Paladinlaw> Actionparsnip: how?? in the xorg.conf
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: the nvidia-xconfig makes the file, you can then run nvidia-settings to put the lines in there you need. You will then edit the file and set the res you want
[00:55] <Paladinlaw> Actionparsnip: i already got the file. how should i set the res
[00:56] <tomjr> The notebook is an MSI A6500 model, and I need several drivers including WiFi, sound, Built-in SDcard slot. The 10.*.*LTS version works mostly, I have desktop and application functionality, and I have internet thru the Wired network. Just missing a few proprietary drivers.
[00:57] <Paladinlaw> Actionparsnip: here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/fQDJMzi1
[00:57] <xangua> tomjr: tried lates ubuntu¿
[00:57] <xangua> !hardware | checked hardare support tomjr ¿
[00:58] <urlin2u> tomjr, run laspci and find the stuff you need drivres for and post them, noy the whole lspci output.
[00:58] <urlin2u> lspci*
[00:58] <famine> i want to change my computer name as it shows up on networks...how do I do that?  in setup I set it to something that I dont want it to be
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> tomjr: which wifi chip does it use, most use one of a handful of chips which ALREADY have linux drivers. Just because your hardware doesn't work out of the box doesn't mean you need some bespoke software making from scratch, you just need to do a tiny bit of websearching to find guides
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: looks good :)
[01:00] <Paladinlaw> Actionparsnip: but my max resolution is still 640x480... i want 1280x720
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> famine: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/hostname &    then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/hosts      change BOTH the hostname and host for each occurrence of the current hostname to your desired hostname (case VERY sensitive)
[01:00] <Paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: if i uninstall nvidia drivers i can have 1280x720. but with them i cant
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: ok, then run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and see what is happening
[01:01] <famine> thanks actionparsnip
[01:01] <Paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: i cant analyze that:D can you? http://pastebin.com/GmtkCC9E
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> famine: you must change both at the same time as sudo needs to resolve the hostname to <IP_ADDRESS> to work, so if you change one then try to change the other, the sudo will fail and you'd need to fall back to root recovery mode to dig yourself out
[01:03] <famine> ya its c hanged
[01:03] <famine> no idea what gksudo or gedit is tho...i just nanoed each of those files :P
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: look at line 134
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> famine: gedit is the text editor itself, gksudo runs it with extra access as your user is only a user
[01:04] <_cb> libvirt is supposed to be server based and virtualbox client based but operationally both are the same, right? Other than speed does libvirt have something that virtualbox does not?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> famine: so you use gksudo to edit files which are not yours
[01:05] <Paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: EDID? whats that
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> famine: nano is fine too, as long as you either make an interactive sudo, or open both in a terminal before saving
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Paladinlaw: go find out ;)
[01:05] <famine> ah
[01:05] <famine> i dont use sudo
[01:05] <famine> old habits
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> famine: well you must, the files are owned by root
[01:06] <famine> su works for me :)
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> famine: yeah, ubuntu doesn't support having a root pass, you'd need this to use su. You can sudo su   and have the same effect whilst keeping the account locked
[01:07]  * i-was-fedora : opppps , su in ubunto !  ;)
[01:07] <linuxman410> what is name of 11.04 ubuntu
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> !natty
[01:07] <famine> sure it does
[01:07] <famine> sudo passwd root
[01:07] <famine> and theres your root pass
[01:07] <linuxman410> was lucid 10.04
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> famine: that isn't supported or advised here. please don't broadcast that
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | famine
[01:08] <famine> ah
[01:08] <famine> didnt know that
[01:09] <tomjr> partial result of lspci command: Audio device:ATI Technologies Inc Device 1314; Audio device:ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev40); NETWORK CONTROLLER:Realtek Semiconductor Co Ltd DEVICE 8176 (rev01).
[01:10] <fanzhen> hi, I get "No command 'off' found " message when I open terminal  !!! what is wrong???
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> famine: that's my point
[01:10] <fanzhen> it is a little boring!!!
[01:10] <dr_willis> fanzhen:  you got some extra commands/mistake in one of your bash startup files
[01:10] <fanzhen> how to find it out?
[01:11] <_cb> Is there a good channel to ask about virtualization options in Ubuntu?
[01:11] <dr_willis> fanzhen:  look in your .profile or .bash* files
[01:11] <somsip> fanzhen: look for 'echo off'
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> !virtual | _cb
[01:11] <fanzhen> thks ,I try
[01:11] <somsip> fanzhen: sorry - should be 'echo off' but maybe some error so just 'off' might be showing
[01:12] <_cb> ActionParsnip I am interested in uderstanding the advantages/disadvantages of libvirt and VirtualBox
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> _cb: i'd as in #vbox then, it's more specific to your issue
[01:13] <_cb> Ok thanks
[01:13] <whoever>  is there still a bug with video driver activated but not currently in use ?
[01:14] <skpl> can someone help me? i can only get my resolution up to 1024x768
[01:14] <dr_willis> whoever:  last i heard it was still happening.
[01:14] <dr_willis> whoever:  ive seen it where it says its not in use.. but it was..
[01:14] <whoever> dr_willis: is there an eta on a fix
[01:14] <jcbbjjttt> Hello, I am running Ubuntu Server 10.10. There is only one account that "had" sudo access. I left my machine idle after having use sudo and leaving myself at the prompt for a password. Now, when I try to use sudo I receive the "is not in the sudoers" file. Is there anyway to add someone to the sudoers file if there is no way to use sudo?
[01:14] <whoever> dr_willis: for what its worth no matter what i try i still get that erreor
[01:14] <dr_willis> whoever:  never noticed or paid attention to it. mine is in use. and working fine. just  a mistaken warning that its not.
[01:15] <fanzhen> hehe... find it out in my .bashrc file
[01:15] <dr_willis> whoever:  Is it lieing? :)
[01:15] <fanzhen> uncomment "off ........"
[01:15] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: I would concern myself first and foremost to discovering how the user was removed from sudo access.  Yes there is a way though.
[01:15] <whoever> dr_willis: i assumed that :-) its just annoying to see it
[01:17] <antiphysicist> hi, in ubuntu 11.04, how to automatically load into "ubuntu classic"
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> jcbbjjttt: reboot at a convenient time and boot to root recovery mode, you can then add the user to the admin group there
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> antiphysicist: select the session at the login screen and it will be used each time you login by default
[01:17] <IdleOne> ! classic | antiphysicist
[01:17] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: what does « groups USER » return?  Replace "USER" with the appropriate username
[01:18] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  if you got gdm set to autologin ,  your user can logout/select a session and from then on. it will rember that and autologin to it.
[01:18] <jcbbjjttt> Thanks.
[01:18] <jcbbjjttt> group user returns only the username
[01:18] <urlin2u> antiphysicist, login for auto logins
[01:18] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: so you need to figure out how the user was removed from the admin group
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> jcbbjjttt: you can run:  usermod -a -G admin username
[01:18] <Phr3d13> whoever suggested python-bluez, thank you, after i installed it, i rebooted and now it works
[01:19] <jcbbjjttt> ActionParsnip: I will try that now. 1 minute.
[01:19] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: I have no idea how it was removed. I am on a closed network that only I have access to.
[01:19] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: I was connecting locally
[01:19] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: did you modify the user's groups?
[01:19] <tomjr> Anyone looking at my lspci output?
[01:20] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: I did not
[01:20] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: well you have a major problem then
[01:21] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: I had been idle at the sudo password prompt for a few hours and when I came back it would no longer work
[01:22] <dr_willis> Hmm. I thoiught that thing had a timeout after a few min.
[01:22] <jcbbjjttt> dr_willis: I was interrupted in the middle of what I was doing and stepped away for a few hours to return to having this problem.
[01:23] <jcbbjjttt> ActionParsnip: That worked! Thank you.
[01:24] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: the main issue is that users don't just drop out of groups.  If you didn't do it accidentally, then that leaves maliciousness or bugginess
[01:25] <SubCool> what do we use to benchmark?
[01:27] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: I understand that. Again, it is a completely closed network that is local. It is not connected to the outside world except when I update it at which point I plug it in. Other than that, it is only accessed by me for testing purposes.
[01:27] <Hash-it-is> hey so i'm really lazy, and i just wanted to know what the best way for remote connection is over a lan
[01:27] <jcbbjjttt> jrib: Is there a way to possibly look back and see when user groups are changed?
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> Hash-it-is: try ssh
[01:28] <Hash-it-is> MonkeyDust: I meant GUI remote connection
[01:28] <jrib> jcbbjjttt: not really.  Check shell history and auth.log for relevant commands
[01:28] <Hash-it-is> MonkeyDust: I'm not total noobsauce, I obviously would have ssh'd already :P
[01:28] <Paladinlaw> how do i fix EDID problem? i got DVI and my max resolution is 640x480.
[01:29] <Hash-it-is> the hell is edid?
[01:29] <nuclearworm> hello , is there any way that after shutting down something remain in ram? and the only way to really erase ram data was taking it from the slot?
[01:29] <dr_willis> edid is a way the monitor and pc get in sync with what modes are supported i recall
[01:30] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
[01:31] <Hash-it-is> well if your problem is max resolution, that doesn't sound like EDID to me
[01:33] <slide> Every time I select a launched program from the unity bar that has more than 1 window open it always brings a different window to the top, but still gives the original window focus
[01:33] <slide> has anyone else encountered this and knows how to fix it?
[01:35] <VampsDaBeast> what the terminal cmd to find out what arch (32 or 64) your running?
[01:35] <HorizonXP> hi, i'm trying to restore a directory i backed up using rsync to my external USB disk
[01:36] <the_fool> avoine, thanks
[01:36] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,     arch
[01:36] <i-was-fedora> VampsDaBeast, u mean the command arch ??
[01:36] <avoine> VampsDaBeast: uname -a
[01:36] <HorizonXP> i ran this command to back it up 'rsync -vrlptg ~/Documents/Research /media/Elements/Documents'
[01:36] <HorizonXP> i ran the same command to restore the files, except with the source and destination reversed
[01:36] <VampsDaBeast> avoine, thanks..
[01:36] <HorizonXP> however, i think because FAT32 disks don't preserve permissions, it's trying to copy all of the files
[01:37] <HorizonXP> when i only want the new ones, and to preserve the existing file permissions
[01:37] <HorizonXP> any ideas on how to do this?
[01:37] <avoine> the_fool:  can you tell me the model of your wifi card?
[01:37] <HorizonXP> also, is there a way to get rsync to save the permissions to a separate text file or something, to avoid this issue?
[01:37] <urlin2u> HorizonXP, personally I just use a gui rysnc like grsync, alitle easier.
[01:38] <coz_> VampsDaBeast,   uname -a generally gives more info than architecture   the command ' arch'  will give only that
[01:38] <calwig> whats a good app for undeleting?
[01:38] <calwig> !undelete
[01:38] <HorizonXP> urlin2u: i usually do too, but it's exhibiting the same behaviour
[01:38] <VampsDaBeast> now, i uninstalled ubuntu 11.04 x64 and switched to 11.04 x86. i choose the first option on the install to remove ubuntu and install the new version, would that cause problems
[01:38] <the_fool> avoine: lets see ifconfig wlan0 shows a BROADCAST MULTICAST?
[01:38] <dr_willis> VampsDaBeast:  it shouldent. You could just delete the existing ubuntu partitions  manually befor starting the installer also. and let it remake them
[01:39] <avoine> HorizonXP: sadly no, you must use a other kind of partition or mybe use bup: https://github.com/apenwarr/bup
[01:39] <dr_willis> VampsDaBeast:  but if you 'uninstalled' it (how did you do that)  it should allready be gone. :)
[01:39] <avoine> the_fool:  you can look at the output of the lspci commande
[01:40] <VampsDaBeast> dr_willis, ok, as i said, i used the first option on the install cd (remove current ubuntu and install from media) but i'm having an issue gettin my video drivers and a game to install.
[01:40] <dr_willis> VampsDaBeast:  if it removed the old os.. then it cnt be affecting the new install.
[01:41] <dr_willis> even if you installed both side by side. they shouldent be affecting eachother.
[01:41] <the_fool> avoine: right I was following a tutorial online and running lspci | grep newtwork shows: Broadcom corporation BCM4318 [Airforce one 54g] 802. 11g wireless lan controller (rev 02)
[01:41] <avoine> the_fool: ok , let me check
[01:42] <VampsDaBeast> dr_willis, interesting. either way, thru Ubuntu Classic or KDE Plasma..i cant get nvidia drivers to install, nor HoN. and both are .run files
[01:42] <the_fool> avoine: thanks, it looked like it was supported online, so i'm not sure why we're not getting any results.
[01:44] <avoine> the_fool: have you installed and cut the firmware? (or those is tell you something?)
[01:44] <the_fool> avoine, hmm? so far i've just installed the ubuntu download via liveusb
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[01:45] <avoine> thank you ActionParsnip , the_fool look at the instruction in this page ^
[01:45] <dr_willis> VampsDaBeast:  all ive had to do for my nvidia systems  is run the addationa-drivers tool and a few clicks and it works. :)
[01:45] <dr_willis> VampsDaBeast:  then run nvidia-settings and tweak them. On all 3 of my nvidia machines
[01:45] <VampsDaBeast> dr_willis, ok, i'll try that.. thanks
[01:46] <the_fool> avoine, checking now
[01:46] <b44> Which is the easiest way to install a configured Ubuntu + Openbox ???
[01:47] <firc> hi
[01:47] <berg> hello I am unable to download 11.04 from ubuntu downloads for 64bit it starts then fails saying it cant read file?
[01:47] <firc> need some help.
[01:47] <dr_willis> b44:  sudo apt-get install openbox   and it should then be in the gdm session menu
[01:47] <nucc1> berg, try the torrent.
[01:47] <JoseeAntonioR> berg: Have you MD5 checked the ISO?
[01:47] <firc> I installed 11.04 on my laptop ( Intel 945GM video chipset) and the only resolution I get is 1024x768 ( or less ). Why can't I get more resolution?
[01:48] <tomjr> OK I have run lspci and have some hardware ID. What do I do to find a driver?
[01:48] <firc> can anyone help me?
[01:48] <JoseeAntonioR> firk !ask
[01:48] <firc> was that for me?
[01:48] <dr_willis> firc:  you have to ask an actual question...
[01:48] <firc> I just asked..
[01:48] <nucc1> dr_willis, he already asked
[01:49] <berg> JoseeAntonioR:  No I dont know md5
[01:49] <firc> in case you guys missed it..
[01:49] <firc> I installed 11.04 on my laptop ( Intel 945GM video chipset) and the only resolution I get is 1024x768 ( or less ). Why can't I get more resolution?
[01:49] <firc> here, the question again.
[01:49] <JoseeAntonioR> berg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:49] <coz_> !intel
[01:49] <firc> And all packages are updated.
[01:49] <i-was-fedora> JoseeAntonioR, he didn't even downloaded it yet :)-
[01:50] <coz_> !resolution
[01:50] <dr_willis> firc:  you could check the forums and askubuntu.com  about that exact chipset and see if anyone else has had similer issues.
[01:50] <firc> And I have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed too.
[01:50] <JoseeAntonioR> firc: Also had that problem a couple of months ago. What you need to do is create a new xorg.conf file, and edit the HorizSync & VertRefresh values with your monitor values.
[01:51] <nucc1> JoseeAntonioR, seriously? feels like 1997 again :(
[01:51] <firc> JoseeAntonioR: aah. Hmm. Only that?
[01:51] <berg> JoseeAntonioR: dont i need the file in my PC to check this md5 value ...because it will not download
[01:51] <JoseeAntonioR> firc: Yes, that solves the problem.
[01:52] <dr_willis> berg:  i would try getting it via torrents. could bne the servers are having issues.
[01:52] <the_fool> avoine, right so according to this page the driver is supported, but I still can't seem to pick up any networks - does it need to activated? I think it showed up as disabled, but not sure how to fix that?
[01:52] <firc> JoseeAntonioR: ok cool. Thanks a lot
[01:52] <cjs226> I'm having a problem with shutdown and reboot not waiting for a shutdown script to complete.  i verified it's being run.  i assumed the system would wait for each K script to complete.  is this not the case?
[01:52] <JoseeAntonioR> nucc1: Yes. The problem is Intel.
[01:52] <JoseeAntonioR> firc: You're welcome.
[01:52] <dr_willis> berg:  unless the error message is due to somthing on your end. HD full, errors. or network connection problems
[01:52] <Droopsta915> Hello. Im trying to create an account in Ubuntu One. but it keeps showing exclamation points on my email address? Whats going on?
[01:53] <berg> my end has plenty of HDspace and network is fine
[01:53] <avoine> the_fool: have you installed the b43-fwcutter package?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Droopsta915:  theres the ubuntu One specific channel #ubuntuone (i think) that may have better info.
[01:53] <dr_willis> !ubuntuone
[01:54] <avoine> the_fool: oh and also a package name b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[01:54] <the_fool> avoine, ...no
[01:54] <avoine> the_fool: try that
[01:54] <nerdrage> hey. I was wonder if there was a way to tell where sound was coming from. What i mean is, is there a way to tell what side(of a head phone) sound will be played out of
[01:54] <the_fool> avoine, k i'll try downloading those here and installing via usb
[01:55] <avoine> the_fool: you don't have a wired access?
[01:55] <SubCoolEnt> would anyone like to talk filesystesm? i want to copy my one presistant flash to a new one..
[01:55] <Droopsta915> dr_willis: thanks
[01:55] <the_fool> avoine, nah no ethernet cords laying around
[01:56] <avoine> the_fool: it won't work without internet, the packages need to download the firmware on the Internet
[01:56] <the_fool> hmm ok, let's see what I can do
[01:56] <famine> how can I browse a windows share located at \\<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[01:57] <the_fool> avoine, hmm I'll see what I can do  - might have to disconnect here though
[01:57] <dr_willis> SubCoolEnt:  the persistant file is just a file you can copy right over..
[01:57] <Singham> nerdrage : System -> Preferences -> Sound -> Output (tab)
[01:57] <berg> thanks folks i started download from torrent i din't know this was available thank you
[01:57] <dr_willis> famine:  open up file manager, ctrl-l  enter smb://the.ip.num.bet
[01:57] <avoine> the_fool: last thing, you need to reboot after the installation
[01:57] <famine> err
[01:57] <famine> can i repeat that
[01:57] <the_fool> avoine, k thanks
[01:57] <nerdrage> Singham, but is there any way i can hook into that? So that I can find out if sound is coming from left or right side?
[01:58] <famine> hit contrl l in xchat and it cleared my screen p
[01:58] <SubCoolEnt> dr_willis, thats y i wanted to talk, i dont know how it all works. lol
[01:58] <nerdrage> say, when a video game is playing
[01:58] <dr_willis> famine:  open up file manager, ctrl-l  enter smb://the.ip.num.bet
[01:58] <SubCoolEnt> dr_willis, i also wanna expand the partition, but- that hasnt worked out too well either at this point.
[01:58] <dr_willis> ctrl-l in nautulus shows/hides the address entry thing. :)
[01:58] <SubCoolEnt> I am Super Noob
[01:59] <dr_willis> SubCoolEnt:  on a persistant save file setup. its not a parttion. but a single file. ive seen guides/docs on enlargeing it. but havent dont that in ages.
[01:59] <dr_willis> SubCoolEnt:  the pendrivelinux web site might have been where i found the instructions once.
[01:59] <SubCoolEnt> dr_willis, ya, i have one i am trying to read from.
[01:59] <SubCoolEnt> that one
[01:59] <SubCoolEnt> dr_willis, but, i have been having issues with getthing these things together, so- im bouncing off walls
[01:59] <dr_willis> SubCoolEnt:  backup your existing file first. :)  and i recall itjust being a few commands to enlarge it.
[01:59] <SubCoolEnt> i cant seem to make a workable 64bit liveusb
[02:00] <dr_willis> I have to go to work.. bbl.
[02:00] <SubCoolEnt> lata- thanks
[02:01] <Singham> nerdrage : Play a sound track and move the Balance button in the output tab.I think this will help you.
[02:03] <gurmal> hi hi hi there
[02:04] <gurmal> does any1 know the command to know the version / info of  xfce
[02:05] <gurmal> df
[02:05] <number19> i'm trying to install the slingshot launcher from the elementaryOS on kubuntu, as far as i know it installed fine but when i try to launch it i get this "
[02:05] <number19> slingshot: error while loading shared libraries: libgee.so.2: cannot open shared object file
[02:05] <number19> any help would be appreciated
[02:05] <nerdrage> Singham, :D I'm trying to do it programmatically
[02:05] <nerdrage> specifically python
[02:06] <urlin2u> gurmal, the release?
[02:07] <i-was-fedora>  gurmal , you may need libgee2 to br installed O_o
[02:07] <gurmal> @ urlin2u 9.1 karmic
[02:08] <number19> ???
[02:08] <urlin2u> gurmal, what do ou mean version info 32 bit 64 bit?
[02:08] <Singham> gurmal : Try          xfdesktop --version
[02:08] <urlin2u> you
[02:08] <gurmal> @urlin2u
[02:09] <gurmal> @urlin2u 32 bit
[02:09] <urlin2u> gurmal, what do ou mean version info? Is that simple enough
[02:10] <urlin2u> you
[02:11] <gurmal> Singam you are a "puli" it worked "" This is xfdesktop version 4.6.1, running on Xfce 4.6.1."" Thankx
[02:12] <timothy> anyone running 11.10 beta 1
[02:12] <xangua> !oneiric | timothy
[02:12] <Singham> gurmal :   :)
[02:12] <timothy> same thing i dont use code names
[02:12] <urlin2u> timothy, #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <timothy> what that suppose to mean
[02:13] <urlin2u> timothy, that is where it is discussed.
[02:13] <i-was-fedora> number19,  you may need libgee2 to br installed O_o .....
[02:13] <timothy> ah ok thanks!!
[02:15] <number19> i-was-fedora: thanks, i'll try that now
[02:15] <firc> Hey guys.
[02:16] <firc> where should I add that xorg.conf .. /etc/xorg.conf ? ( 11.04 )
[02:16] <i-was-fedora> if such is installed , it may be just a problem of a (lost) shortcut ... to that library
[02:16] <i-was-fedora> number19, if such is installed , it may be just a problem of a (lost) shortcut ... to that library
[02:17] <sweener> firc: /etc/X11/
[02:17] <number19> that worked
[02:17] <number19> thanks
[02:17] <number19> although the launcher is a bit different than i though
[02:17] <firc> sweener: ok. and then /etc/init.d/x11-common restart?
[02:18] <sweener> firc: sudo service gdm restart
[02:19] <firc> Actually, I'll be more specific.
[02:19] <firc> Here's what I get: http://pastebin.com/4xUVcKCD
[02:19] <rypervenche> Does running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade from an LTS to a newer version or does it just install a newer kernel and things like that?
[02:19] <firc> And 1024x768 is my MAX. resolution. I don't understand why!
[02:20] <xangua> rypervenche: installs updates from software sources
[02:21] <rypervenche> xangua: What is the command to do an upgrade to a newer version, like from 10.04 to 10.10? I forgot the command on Ubuntu.
[02:21] <xangua> !upgrade | rypervenche
[02:22] <rypervenche> Thank you
[02:22] <rypervenche> So running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is ok to run and won't upgrade to a newer release, correct?
[02:23] <sweener> firc: what video driver are you using?
[02:23] <corrytonapple> Hello all!
[02:23] <urlin2u> rypervenche, right
[02:24] <corrytonapple> Does anybody know how I can make my system (Natty GNOME 2) go to sleep after a time longer than two hours?
[02:24] <rypervenche> Ok, thank you all.
[02:24] <HotShowers> does anyone know if grub 1.98-1ubuntu7 uses grub.cfg or menu.lst?
[02:24] <urlin2u> HotShowers, grub.cfg
[02:24] <fbsd> hi
[02:25] <corrytonapple> Heelo fbsd
[02:25] <HotShowers> when i run update-grub it gives me an error saying menu.lst cannot be found and if i want to create it
[02:25] <fbsd> why conky return
[02:25] <fbsd> Conky: can't open /dev/mixer: No such file or directory
[02:25] <HotShowers> and leave grub.cfg alone
[02:25] <urlin2u> !grub | HotShowers
[02:25] <Jon--> Installing Ubuntu 11.04 beside Windows for a friend. Unfortunately, we now have four primary partitions (system reserved 100MB, windows, /, and /home). now want an NTFS data partition, but there are four primaries and it's at the end of the drive. What can we do?
[02:25] <HotShowers> am i doing something wrong?
[02:25] <fbsd> when i want to get ${mixer}
[02:25] <corrytonapple> IDK about those more advanced features of Conky, sorry
[02:25] <urlin2u> Jon--, you have to remove ome for a exteneded.
[02:25] <urlin2u> one
[02:26] <Jon--> urlin2u, Thus losing the data on it?
[02:26] <Paladinlaw> hi, i switched from windows to ubunbu and took my mysql files with me. when i run them here they are all read-only. how do i change that? already tryied shmod and chown.
[02:26] <urlin2u> Jon--, de[ends on how you do it.
[02:26] <urlin2u> depends*
[02:26] <Jon--> urlin2u, Care to help?
[02:27] <urlin2u> Jon--, not if drawn out this is fairly basic stuff.
[02:28] <Jon--> urlin2u, I'll be quick. Here's the current drive http://i.imgur.com/RY8S8.png
[02:29] <Jon--> urlin2u, May need a live CD? File system is still mounted
[02:30] <urlin2u> Jon--, your set I would just make that exstended across the whole unalocated you can put a ntfs in side it that windows will see and ubuntu.
[02:30] <Jon--> I would too, but I don't see an option to do so.
[02:30] <Jon--> I go to new and it complains about not being able to make a primary
[02:30] <urlin2u> Jon--, the ntfs would be a shared partion if needed.
[02:31] <urlin2u> Jon--, you have to do it all froma live and turn off the swap and
[02:31] <HotShowers> could i have overwritten my grub2 with grub1 using sudo apt-get install grub
[02:31] <jjgalvez__> hi all, I edited my fstab to change a device to use uuid and now it appears twice in nautilus once as an HD and once as a removable drive, here is the line in my fstab UUID=04a2dc6b-5cd2-44d1-b369-e10e9ba18673 /media/Puker2 ext4 rw,noexec,user,noauto 0 0
[02:31] <urlin2u> HotShowers, run from where in and what release.
[02:31] <Jon--> urlin2u, and?
[02:32] <urlin2u> Jon--, live cd and nop keys meaning open partitions.
[02:32] <urlin2u> no
[02:32] <Jon--> urlin2u, I'll just use the gparted livecd
[02:32] <lingolatz> What is the best way for a noob to learn SSH, or what is a better alternative?
[02:33] <urlin2u> Jon--, that works gparted is on the ubuntu live cd as well
[02:33] <HotShowers> urlin2u: ubuntu 10.04
[02:33] <Jon--> Do I need to explicitly make nop keys somehow?
[02:33] <urist_> hello... i just downloaded a website using wget... I'm wondering where these files get saved
[02:33] <Jon--> Or is that just a fancy term for don't mount anything?
[02:34] <Jon--> last question then I'm off to do it
[02:34] <urlin2u> HotShowers, 10.04 is grub2 from the lucid you ran that command?
[02:34] <escott> lingolatz, ssh is fairly simple to use. do you want to ask how to learn the shell?
[02:34] <HotShowers> yeah, i ran sudo apt-get install grub
[02:34] <corrytonapple> Where is the config file for where Gnome-power-manager stores it settings?  I cannot see what I need in /etc/default/acpi
[02:34] <HotShowers> after it installed i ran sudo update-grub
[02:34] <SpArtAk> deseo conectar dos PC's con el mini Swicht 5 Port 100/10M Ethernet  encienden los focos verdes  como cuando se conecta en win2
[02:34] <HotShowers> then it created me a menu.lst
[02:34] <HotShowers> and didn't modify my grub.cfg
[02:35] <urlin2u> !bootinfo | HotShowers
[02:35] <nathanel> hello all! I am looking for a way to override the default cpu governor on my laptop and force powersave on system start.. anyone knows how to on oneiric?
[02:35] <lingolatz> escott, maybe that's where I should start: shell?
[02:35] <urlin2u> HotShowers, run that bootscript ubotttu shows and pastebin the RSULTS.txt
[02:35] <escott> lingolatz, you evidently are using/want to use ssh. but what exactly is confusing you?
[02:36] <SpArtAk> how can i connect two computers using a mini switch 5 port 10/100m Ethernet i have the two rows marking that there connected
[02:37] <HotShowers> urlin2u: ok will try now
[02:37] <lingolatz> escott, I installed openSSH on the machine I am using right now, but I do not understand if I do or do not need to install SSH on the machine I want to connect to
[02:37] <urlin2u> Jon--, yeah the keys mean a mounted partition, you need the all unmounted to exspand the extended
[02:38] <urlin2u> them*
[02:38] <fbsd> modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[02:38] <fbsd> FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.
[02:38] <fbsd> why?
[02:38] <escott> SpArtAk, you will have to setup static ips on each machine and set the route for that subnet to go through the device
[02:38] <nathanel> hello all! I am looking for a way to override the default cpu governor on my laptop and force powersave on system start.. anyone knows how to on oneiric?
[02:38] <urist_> hello... i just downloaded a website using wget... I'm wondering where these files get saved
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> fbsd: try using tab to complete the name
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> urist_: pwd
[02:38] <nathanel> in your default command directory if not specified..aka HOME
[02:39] <SpArtAk> thanks man
[02:39] <SpArtAk> escott:
[02:39] <SpArtAk> Gracias... ahora como rejodidas hare eso??
[02:39] <SpArtAk> hmmm
[02:39] <SpArtAk> bye
[02:39] <SpArtAk> ok
[02:39] <nathanel> hello all! I am looking for a way to override the default cpu governor on my laptop and force powersave on system start.. anyone knows how to on oneiric?
[02:39] <urist_> doesn't pwd require you to know where it is in the first place?
[02:39] <escott> lingolatz, ssh client is commonly installed on most machines, if it is not you can install ssh-client. on the machine with ssh server the service should start immediately, but if not you can service ssh start. then just ssh username@ip-address
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: oneiric is only supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[02:40] <HotShowers> need to reboot
[02:40] <lingolatz> escott, Is it possible for a machine to connect to itself through SSH? I had problems doing this.
[02:41] <nathanel> oh sorry.. didn't know
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: no problemmo
[02:41] <W0rmDrink> hi
[02:41] <W0rmDrink> I have xubuntu
[02:41] <W0rmDrink> and I want to install web admin thing on it
[02:41] <W0rmDrink> the thing used for server
[02:41] <escott> lingolatz, it shouldn't be a problem, it is a good way to test that the service is running and that the username is allowed to login ssh username@localhost
[02:41] <urist_> nathanel: thanks found it
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> W0rmDrink: ebox
[02:41] <nathanel> np :)
[02:42] <escott> nathanel, cpu governor is in /sys these days
[02:42] <hoverbear> Hi all, are there any ubuntu derivatives that don't include a full-fledged DE in the deafult install? Also, are there any rolling release versions?
[02:42] <newuser> hello, I am having problems with log files that grow in size and saturate my memory. I left linux running for one day and next time I wanted to do anything I got a message warning me that there was no space left on the device. I typed df -h and I got /dev/root using 100%. I tried to ls to that folder but it does not exist
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: use ubuntu minimal and you can build up
[02:42] <W0rmDrink> ActionParsnip, is that official thing used on server ?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: ubuntu isn't a rolling release
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | W0rmDrink
[02:43] <fbsd> ActionParsnip: i have not snd-pcm-oss
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> W0rmDrink: its official but not default in server, most people use SSH with great success
[02:43] <lingolatz> escott, I see. And through SSH, programs requiring a graphical interface cannot be executed?
[02:43] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: I figured. There was talk of it moving to something of a rolling release though iirc.
[02:43] <newuser> then I did a du -sh * and I end up discovering a error.log, and everything.log files of a couple of gbs, what can I do to stop this?
[02:43] <Flannel> hoverbear: If you take the alternate CD (or server, or mini iso), you can install a GUI-less system, and then add whatever you'd like o it.
[02:43] <fbsd> ActionParsnip: i have just snd-pcm
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> fbsd: i see
[02:44] <firc> ActionParsnip: Can you share your xorg.conf? I put something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( created that file ) but I'm still stuck at 1024x768
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> !find * and I end up discovering a error.log, and everything.log fi
[02:44] <escott> lingolatz, ssh -X will export the display variable to the server and guis can then appear on the client (assuming the client is running X11)
[02:44] <fbsd> ActionParsnip: i need to get vol with conky
[02:44] <nathanel> i checked around.. nothing really indicative of a file that sets the default... I did find the variable folder that details the cpu status when on a given governor though
[02:44] <firc> This is very annoying. Can't even change resolution!
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: you are meaning oneiric, you need to switch to #ubuntu+1 channel
[02:45] <nathanel> i did.. no one in there..
[02:45] <escott> nathanel, /sys/devices/cpu/cpu#/cpufreq/*
[02:45] <usr13> firc: xrandr   #Will show you available screen sizes
[02:45] <hoverbear> Flannel: Sounds good. Does the alternative installer require networking like the mini?
[02:45] <nathanel> escot: that used to be true on natty
[02:45] <firc> usr13: yep I know. Wait I'll show you what I get
[02:45] <Flannel> hoverbear: No, mini iso gets all the packages from the repos, but alternate CD includes them (the mini iso is just alternate stripped of packages, basically).
[02:46] <usr13> firc: You can also change to one of those you see in the output of  "xrandr"   if you use command  "xrandr -s 800x600"  (where 800x600 is listed as being available).
[02:46] <firc> usr13: http://pastebin.com/uXBbC1zC this is what I get.
[02:46] <hoverbear> Flannel: Awesome. I'm genuinely suprised theres no like "awesome-buntu" that comes with a pre-setup tiling WM or something.
[02:46] <firc> you see Screen size max is 4096x4096.. yet I still have 1024x768
[02:46] <Flannel> hoverbear: It will optionally snag newer versions from the internet, and if you do advanced and install things that aren't on the disk, it'll obviously need to get them from the internet, but for a standard desktop or command-line install, it doesn't require internet.
[02:47] <escott> danes, what program is creating that file?
[02:47] <hoverbear> Flannel: Yer, I just don't really want to have to setup all my wifi stuff twice. :-P
[02:47] <Flannel> hoverbear: There are some unofficial ones, but they are unofficial, and we can't vouch that they're up to date or don't do anything crazy or whatnot.
[02:47] <firc> usr13: right, so resolutions > 1024x768 aren't even listed there. I just don't know why
[02:47] <usr13> firc: Ok, looks like you only have 3 options.
[02:48] <hoverbear> Flannel: Right on. What about the official derivatives? Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu? Do they pull from the same repos as ubuntu?
[02:48] <amit222> hii
[02:48] <firc> yep
[02:48] <escott> nathanel, if you aren't seeing that file it is indicative that the kernel doesn't support/recognize cpufreq for your hardware
[02:48] <nathanel> no
[02:48] <usr13> firc: Looks like  1024x768  is what  you have now.  Right?
[02:48] <nathanel> it's in /sys/devices/system/cpu....
[02:48] <lingolatz> escott, for example. If I am trying to open image 'volleyball01.jpeg', would I type 'ssh -X gnome-open volleyball01.jpeg'?
[02:48] <firc> usr13: yeah. That's what I have now. I wanted higher resolution
[02:49] <rypervenche> What windows manager does lxde use by default?
[02:49] <amit222> please help me.. My ubuntu randomly logs out.. I want to reinstall it without losing my home folder.. any idea how to do that??
[02:49] <Flannel> hoverbear: yeah, and many of the unofficial ones do too.  Justdifferent packages installed by default, etc.
[02:49] <hoverbear> rypervenche: I think it's a modified openbox
[02:49] <amit222> I have installed home in separate partition..
[02:49] <usr13> firc: Not gonna happen.  At least not with the current driver and the current monitor.
[02:49] <escott> lingolatz, that may or may not work depending on how gnome-open works. I would use eog volleyball01.jpeg (eog=eye-of-gnome is the simple image viewer)
[02:49] <hoverbear> Flannel: Hm, maybe I'll just drop Xubuntu on it then.... Do you have any experience with power management on linux?
[02:50] <amit222> please help me.. My ubuntu randomly logs out.. I want to reinstall it without losing my home folder.. any idea how to do that??
[02:50] <firc> ( for the same system (
[02:50] <firc> * )
[02:50] <usr13> firc: What is the make and model of  your display adapter?
[02:50] <amit222> I have installed home in separate partition..
[02:50] <escott> lingolatz, and its ssh -X username@server[ENTER] put in the login info then on the prompt eog volleyball01.jpeg
[02:50] <Flannel> hoverbear: You can do that after install by installing xubuntu-desktop.
[02:50] <firc> usr13: Intel 945GM
[02:50] <Flannel> hoverbear: (the package, after install)
[02:50] <lingolatz> escott, so 'ssh -X eog volleyball01.jpeg'?
[02:50] <hoverbear> Flannel: Right on.
[02:50] <usr13> firc: How about the monitor?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> lingolatz: add -C too (for compression)
[02:50] <lingolatz> escott, Ahhhh, that helps, thank you
[02:50] <firc> usr13: this is a laptop
[02:50] <usr13> I see..
[02:51] <firc> usr13: what drivers do I need? Afaik, windows has better resolution
[02:51] <usr13> Ok what driver is it using?
[02:51] <hoverbear> Flannel: I'm just looking for something reasonably up to date and stable to use in school. (That is, if I can manage to get my battery life acceptable, initial testing shows an almost 4 hour loss in battery life switching from w7 to ubuntu standard)
[02:51] <firc> usr13: I had installed xserver-xorg-intel-video
[02:51] <usr13> firc: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:51] <escott> hoverbear, powertop to improve battery life
[02:51] <hoverbear> escott: Did that before testing. Also twaeked cpufreqd and laptopmode-tools
[02:51] <Flannel> hoverbear: I haven't tried Ubuntu on a laptop since 8.04, but back then there was about a 20% loss in lifetime
[02:52] <usr13> firc: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <hoverbear> Flannel: In confuses me because my old laptop would *gain* 30 mins of battery life using linux...
[02:52] <KingSphinx> Can anyone help me with getting Ubuntu Software Center and Update Manager to work properly? I can only seem to install/update through Synaptic or a terminal.
[02:53] <Flannel> hoverbear: A lot of it depends on the UI and such, all the eyecandy and rounded corners are a waste of processors, etc.
[02:53] <lingolatz> ActionParsnip, what is compression important?
[02:53] <hoverbear> Flannel: Aye. I think it also has to do with the amazing power management settings lenovo supplies with 7
[02:54] <lingolatz> escott, the ssh -X user@address worked, thank you.
[02:54] <usr13> firc: Have you rebooted since installing xserver-xorg-intel-video ?
[02:54] <urlin2u> KingSphinx, if your getting errors pastebin them.
[02:54] <KingSphinx> If it helps at all, I installed Kubuntu 10.10 Trinity (a KDE3 spin), then upgraded to 11.04, then installed ubuntu-desktop.
[02:55] <KingSphinx> All I can describe it as is that if I click "Install", nothing happens.
[02:55] <usr13> firc: Did you use the package manager to instal xserver-xorg-intel-video ?
[02:55] <KingSphinx> If someone can show me how to show errors, I'd gladly pastebin them.
[02:56] <firc_> usr13: woops sorry, I was dc. Did I miss soemthing?
[02:56] <usr13> firc: Did you use the package manager to instal xserver-xorg-intel-video ?
[02:56] <hoverbear> Flannel: Ubuntu doesn't have an official gnome 3 repo does it? I'm sorry but unity is trash.
[02:56] <firc_> usr13: yeah. I used apt-get
[02:56] <usr13> firc_: have you rebooted since then?
[02:56] <escott> !gnome3 | hoverbear
[02:56] <urlin2u> KingSphinx, basically this is a ubuntu/kubuntu canonical release channel
[02:56] <hoverbear> escott: Thanks :)
[02:57] <firc_> usr13: and I upgraded 11.04 ( apt-get upgrade ) earlier today so all packages are updated. and yes, rebooted.
[02:57] <escott> !oneiric | hoverbear gnome3 is available in oneiric
[02:57] <KingSphinx> So I might need to reinstall with an 11.04 disc?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: Unity isn't a DE
[02:57] <usr13> firc_: How did it work before the reboot?
[02:57] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: I'm well aware. It's a WM. :-P
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: its not that either
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: its a shell, a plugin for compix
[02:57] <firc_> usr13: same like now. 1024x768 is my max. resolution.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> *compiz
[02:58]  * KingSphinx actually doesn't hate Unity all that much, it just takes getting used to.
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: you cannot compare Unity to Gnome3, it makes zero sense
[02:58] <usr13> firc_: Does the 1024x768 resolution fit the screen properly?
[02:58] <fbsd> Conky: can't open /dev/mixer: No such file or directory
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: you can compare Gnome classic session to unity session as they are the same type of thing
[02:58] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: Ah, wasn't aware it's a compiz plugin.
[02:58] <fbsd> why doesn't work?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: run:  ccsm   see what you see ;)
[02:58] <usr13> firc_: How does it look?
[02:59] <firc_> usr13: kind of. But icons, etc are still bigger ( at least than my windows install )
[02:59] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip I dislike unity regardless *shrugs* Would rather use xfce/kde/*box/aweosme/wmii/tty
[02:59] <usr13> firc_: What screen size resolution does windows use?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> hoverbear: you can, thats the beauty of linux
[03:00] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: I know right. :)
[03:00] <firc_> usr13: 1280x1024 I think
[03:00] <firc_> although I'd have to check again...
[03:00] <usr13> firc_: What caused you to install xserver-xorg-intel-video ?
[03:01] <firc_> usr13: I think that was installed by default. or maybe someone here told me to install that since I have intel 945gm
[03:02] <hoverbear> ActionParsnip: I'm just trying to figure out whats going on since Currently I get more battery life running windows with virtualbox emulating a default ubuntu install, then I do just running a default ubuntu install with powertop, cpufreq, and latopmode-tolls running.
[03:02] <usr13> firc_: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf     #Does that file exist on your system?
[03:02] <xiVFINISHERVix_> Help installing USB Triton Headset Drivers on Ubuntu 11.03
[03:02] <firc_> usr13: it does now, because I created it
[03:02] <firc_> usr13: but earlier it did not, no.
[03:02] <KingSphinx> Alright, got something after starting Software Center from terminal http://pastebin.com/t0Ui54WA:
[03:03] <KingSphinx> Whoops, didn't mean to put that colon there.
[03:03] <KingSphinx> http://pastebin.com/t0Ui54WA
[03:03] <usr13> firc_: see my pm
[03:03] <firc_> usr13: replied
[03:03] <hoverbear> KingSphinx: Policykit error. Are you running as an elevated user?
[03:03] <xiVFINISHERVix_> Help installing USB Triton Headset Drivers on Ubuntu 11.03
[03:05] <shantorn> i have 11.04 installed and gnome ppp for dial up, i get the connection and an ip fine but with in about 45 seconds of starting xchat the system locks up and i have to power it off. Could someone help m with this please
[03:09] <mattholimeau_> question: is there a way to configure ubuntu so that i can remote desktop even if no user is logged in?
[03:10] <zykotick9> mattholimeau_, ssh +x forwarding ;) (only semi-serious reply)
[03:14] <mattholimeau_> zykotick9 yeah - i like the vnc... i just want to be able to remotely reboot and it still work. haven't played with x much.
[03:15] <piranah_> OK strange issue. Clean install of Ubuntu on my netbook. Right click on an archive no "Extract Here" option. I have installed unrar and zip and they work from command line.  Also ARC works but I would like to have that right click option back! 3 ubuntu systems and this is the first time I have seen this!
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> shantorn: press CTRL+ALT+F1 when it locks, log in and run:  dmesg | tail    may give clues
[03:15] <usr13> mattholimeau_: I do not think  you can run VNC if you don't have a user logged into the Xserver
[03:15] <firc_> usr13: sorry again. was dc
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> piranah_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:16] <mattholimeau_> so, hmm, just not possible?
[03:16] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, sec
[03:16] <mattholimeau_> is there any way to cause an x terminal login if i'm logged in via ssh?
[03:16] <erik__> Getting "Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened." when trying to open my NTFS mount in /etc/fstab. I think ubuntu 11.04 is reserving the partition already, as it appears on my desktop on boot. How can I change this behaviour?
[03:16] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, natty
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> !info file-roller-nautilus
[03:17] <obert> hi.i got .otf fonts downloaded, should i follow this in order to can use them in inkscape or similar apps? http://maestric.com/doc/ubuntu/install_otf_font
[03:17] <piranah_> really ? it works on my desktop
[03:18] <piranah_> ps same output on my desktop
[03:18] <shantorn> i tried ctrl alt f1 and f2 and the system does nthing its just frozen
[03:18] <shantorn> thank you for the idea though
[03:18] <the_fool> avoine, hey you still online?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> piranah_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28642   possibly
[03:18] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, TY i well read
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> piranah_: do you have file-roller installed?
[03:19] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, well double check on the netbook
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> piranah_: file-roller should give the menu in nautilus
[03:20] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, I like that you're using the  "lsb_release -sc" for "short", or in your terms "simple" version ;)
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, a smart guy filled me in ;)
[03:20] <erik__> Getting "Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened." when trying to open my NTFS mount in /etc/fstab. I think ubuntu 11.04 is reserving the partition already, as it appears on my desktop on boot. How can I change this behaviour?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> erik__: is the partition listed in the output of: mount
[03:22] <erik__> ActionParsnip, Not at the moment though it seems to be auto mounting on boot (from something other than /etc/fstab)
[03:23] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, file-roller was not installed on the netbook loading now ty
[03:23] <erik__> ActionParsnip, (I did umount myself)
[03:25] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, hrmm installed bust still not there
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> piranah_: try running:  nautilus -q
[03:25] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, kk
[03:25] <obert> thanks the same
[03:26] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, no go
[03:26] <Symmetry_> Hey im having a problem installing stops after saying /write protect is off/attached scsi romvable disk/nocaching mode page present/assuming drive cache: write though/ and then it repeats
[03:27] <piranah_> soo bizare
[03:27] <Symmetry_> ya then it gives me a error message saying worker 100 is not working
[03:27] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, at least i can use archive manager that was not avail till i installed file-roller
[03:27] <ujjain1> I am looking for a Word replacement that boots in less than 5 seconds.
[03:28] <beached> hey Im having issues with my NVidea gfx drivers
[03:28] <piranah_> i dont mind using command line to extract but i have fam members who are not tech savy
[03:28] <beached> I updated ubuntu and it no longer recognizes duel monitors
[03:28] <erik__> ActionParsnip, ?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> ujjain1: abiword maybe. It loads quick. OSes boot
[03:29] <beached> i installed the proprietary drivers but it say they are not in use?
[03:29] <Shirakawasuna> anyone here know of something like tilda/yakuake which has these things? 1) customizable hotkeys. 2) transparent background available. Right now I'm barely getting by with yeahconsole + urxvt (I'm ex-KDE and miss yakuake)
[03:29] <Shirakawasuna> tilda doesn't seem to have much in the way of configuring hotkeys
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> beached: have a read through:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:29] <Symmetry_> ok the error message is "udeved[75}: woker [147} failed while handling /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:05.0"
[03:30] <Shirakawasuna> guake has issues with anything but the first tab having transparency
[03:30] <Shirakawasuna> ah yes - I want tabs too (3)
[03:30] <piranah_> ActionParsnip, Thank you for the help. I well continue to research the issue
[03:32] <Symmetry_> i dont know if its my grapics card or something cause it says pci or if its the hard drive cause it fails when it says there is no caching mode page present for the scsi
[03:33] <erik__> ActionParsnip, Not at the moment though it seems to be auto mounting on boot (from something other than /etc/fstab)
[03:33] <zykotick9> beached, does nvidia-settings give you a version number in use?  If so, disregard the addition drivers message.  If not, then it's not working right currently.
[03:33] <Symmetry_> so does anyone know what is going on cause i have no idea lolz
[03:35] <avoine> the_fool: It worked?
[03:36] <erik__> Getting "Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened." when trying to open my NTFS mount in /etc/fstab. I think ubuntu 11.04 is reserving the partition already, as it appears on my desktop on boot. How can I change this behaviour?
[03:36] <i-was-fedora> erik__,  type the line containing your (ntfs) in /et/fstab
[03:36] <NCS_One> how can I map mouse buttons?
[03:40] <erik__> i-was-fedora, UUID="777637817484481D" /media/data ntfs rw,auto,user,exec,nls=utf8,umask=003,gid=46,uid=1000 0 2
[03:40] <kingfisher> I want to check my ports and their processes on Ubuntu
[03:40] <kingfisher> On debian it would be: /sbin/fuser 977/tcp
[03:41] <kingfisher> what would the path name be in Ubuntu?
[03:41] <i-was-fedora> erik__,  ok , so your ntfs now (if it's mounted) will appear at your desktop
[03:41] <tp43> anyone use ubuntu one, I was wondering, does it provide a shell/terminal type access to your online storage area, cause I want to run streamer on my laptop, but save to online storage at the same time?
[03:41] <i-was-fedora> erik__,  does it appear ??
[03:41] <erik__> i-was-fedora, no.
[03:42] <erik__> i-was-fedora, I forcefully unmounted one that mounted to /media/{UUID of partition}
[03:42] <beached> zykotick9, v 173
[03:42] <erik__> erik__, fstab should have mounted it to /media/data
[03:42] <i-was-fedora> line with UUID found at /etc/mtab
[03:42] <i-was-fedora> ???
[03:42] <erik__> Same partition, yes.
[03:43] <i-was-fedora> in ubunto , any thing mounted in /media will appear (link to it) at your desktop (in gnome)
[03:43] <Singham> kingfisher : If usb ports try  lsusb
[03:44] <pteague> does anybody know if memtest86+ v4.10 has issues with ddr3 ram? i've tried an msi board & now an asus board & both end up locking up right after displaying the initial memtest86+ screen
[03:45] <ujjain1> Does seahorse not run without sudo?
[03:45] <i-was-fedora> erik__,  type line , please
[03:45] <Joe___> hey guys i was wondering if u could help me with something plz
[03:45] <wildbat> pteague: same ram  too ?
[03:45] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: use netstat -tapn
[03:46] <erik__> i-was-fedora, Which line?
[03:46] <i-was-fedora> erik__, the line with the same UUID at /etc/mtab <<<< mtab
[03:46] <pteague> wildbat, i wasn't sure if it was the msi motherboard or the ram... so i took both back & got an asus board & a different set of the same corsair ddr3 ram
[03:47] <i-was-fedora> Joe___, none will do :) , just ask & see ..
[03:48] <pteague> although i guess it could also be the intel i5...
[03:48] <erik__> i-was-fedora, There is no entry for it in mtab
[03:48] <Joe___> tnk lol sry well while im installing i get this error message udeved[75}: woker [147} failed while handling /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:05.0
[03:49] <i-was-fedora> erik__, check your (priv )message ...
[03:49] <wildbat> pteague: ya ~ sound more like cpu ~ or psu don't have enough juice.
[03:49] <zykotick9> beached, sorry, i have "personally" never gotten 173 to work on any system I've tried them on.  Hope you have better luck then me!
[03:49] <erik__> i-was-fedora, I remounted it, here's the line "/dev/sda7 /media/777637817484481D fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0"
[03:49] <wildbat> pteague: or cooling .
[03:50] <beached> haha ok
[03:50] <beached> why would updateing my comp hose the video gfx
[03:52] <kingfisher> I have a questtion about the netstat -tapn
[03:52] <kingfisher> "The command
[03:52] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: what is it?
[03:52] <kingfisher> It shows my address and then a foregin address that it is connected two
[03:53] <kingfisher> I was able to address the origin of two of the ip addresses but there is one corporate american network I am connected to that I dont know the origin of
[03:53] <kingfisher> all I know is that it is connected via firefox
[03:53] <kingfisher> How do I kill this connectkion with a command?
[03:53] <lyle> hey, for some reason all of my playback levels stopped showing activity in pavucontrol and now i can't successfully set an input source to an output monitor. any ideas?
[03:53] <kingfisher> like close  the port that is connecting to that ip
[03:54] <qin> kingfisher: killall firefox (in this case)
[03:54] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: maybe the page you're opening or ajax on the page
[03:54] <ran> #gmpc
[03:54] <kingfisher> qin i know how to close firefox but I just want to close the port in question.
[03:54] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: close your firefox
[03:55] <qin> kingfisher: Yuo can deny host, or set iptables rules.
[03:55] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: if you wanna kill it, you can also use kill <pid>
[03:56] <kingfisher> I closed it and the state changed from firefox-bin to FIN_WAIT1
[03:56] <kingfisher> what does that mean?
[03:56] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: that means the port is closing
[03:56] <ApOgEE> kingfisher: it will gone soon
[03:57] <qin> kingfisher: I bet you will love ngrep and maybe iftop
[03:58] <pteague> wildbat, think i found the problem... http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/59378-memtest86-4.00-4.20-won-t-load  <- legacy usb, but i can't seem to get it to detect my keyboard without it :(
[04:00] <wildbat> pteague: Oo , that's weird ....  but you got it working anyway COOL ~
[04:01] <pteague> livecd won't detect my keyboard so i can't get into memtest :(
[04:02] <wildbat> pteague: oh ....
[04:08] <pteague> lol... *sigh* the mobo isn't even detecting a keyboard if i use the usb to ps/2 adapter on the usb keyboard... guess i'm going to have to go by storage tomorrow & try to find an old ps/2 keyboard...
[04:09] <Joe___> i figured it out myself thanks for the help assholes go fuck urselfs
[04:09] <wildbat> pteague: doubt if usb is the issue ~ you modify grub to start memtest anyway.
[04:12] <wildbat> you can*
[04:13] <kingfisher> Is there a version of the "up2date" command in Ubuntu?
[04:13] <usr13> kingfisher: up2date, Is that from fedora?
[04:13] <beached> can you roll back you computer before the last update?
[04:13] <usr13> What does it do?
[04:14] <kingfisher> usr13: I think it is found in Fedora and Redhat
[04:14] <pteague> wildbat, i'm kind of running a weird setup atm to see if i could get memtest to run... everything is kind of jury rigged & i don't have an hdd set up to install on
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> kingfisher: just looked at the man page, sounds like apt-get
[04:15] <usr13> kingfisher: Yea, I see.
[04:16] <seclm193> I have an issue.  My speakers are playing when my headphones is plugged in.  I check alsamixer and didn't have an option for headphone sense
[04:16] <usr13> kingfisher: apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox    #Will just upgrade the one package, mozilla-firefox
[04:16] <usr13> kingfisher: apt-get upgrade     #Will upgrade all packages
[04:17] <seclm193> anyone have any ideas?
[04:17] <usr13> kingfisher: Of course, you have to preface those commands with sudo, (because they require admin priviledges).
[04:18] <harrumph> an apache upgrade killed php.  libapache2-mod-php5 has been reinstalled and php5 module turned back on, but php not being called (wordpress sites not working)
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[04:18] <usr13> seclm193: alsamixer   #It's a command issued in a terminal that brings up control for all channels.
[04:19] <seclm193> USR13: no headphone sense option in alsamixer
[04:19] <usr13> seclm193: Follow ActionParsnip's suggestion.
[04:20] <usr13> seclm193: Or.. pastebin the results of it so we can see.
[04:20] <erik__> Got: 393 GB filesystem as a location in Places. Want: to change this label to something else. How? (It's mounted where I want it already, don't need to change that)
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> usr13: the script makes a pastebin ;)
[04:20] <seclm193> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5924959a426226a7b6177a15b897aa1ea52b43f2
[04:20] <usr13> o
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> !label | erik__
[04:20] <seclm193> There you go guys
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: what is the URL generated please?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> sorry, missed your post
[04:21] <seclm193> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5924959a426226a7b6177a15b897aa1ea52b43f2
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: thanks :D
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: try adding:   options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire position_fix=1      to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[04:23] <seclm193> ActionParsnip:  do i need reboot
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: I would, it looks like you already have the position fix set in the file. If it doesn't work try setting the model bit to:  model=laptop
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: or: model=acer
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> seclm193: reboot each time to test, you only want ONE model defined
[04:25] <seclm193> ActionParsnip:  i changed the file,  going for a reboot.  brb
[04:26] <xosuitehearts> okay. so I have an issue I need help with but, its too big for me to post on here
[04:26] <xosuitehearts> so please read this: http://pastebin.com/qZTn4LRR
[04:26] <xosuitehearts> and help me out
[04:26] <xosuitehearts> I need to know how I can find out what all media codecs I have installed and what I don't
[04:26] <lee__> this is a bit of an odd question, but, I need a working Kubuntu channel, the one that came with 11.04 is DOA
[04:27] <xosuitehearts> because im losing my mind..
[04:27] <xosuitehearts> Ive been trying to rip dvds for 3 days
[04:27] <xosuitehearts> and found myself having to download more crap than a kid with limewire
[04:27] <xosuitehearts> so please help me
[04:27] <xosuitehearts> end this travesty
[04:28] <lee__> and all i wanted to do was back up my system lol
[04:28] <xosuitehearts> lee__ actually I can help you with that
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> lee__ I use something called remastersys
 thanks.. I have Kbackup
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> oh
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> well that works too
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> now please
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> someone
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> help me.
[04:29] <IdleOne> !enter
[04:29] <qin> xosuitehearts: http://goo.gl/lO8XW and dont flood
[04:29] <xosuitehearts> sorry
[04:29] <lee__> but what I want to need an know is will it back up my changed files for Open sht?
[04:29] <lyle> hey, for some reason all of my playback levels stopped showing activity in pavucontrol and now i can't successfully set an input source to an output monitor. any ideas?
[04:30] <lee__> *shot
[04:30] <usr13> and xosuitehearts, I can help you:  If you put our question or comments all on one line, it will be more effective, (because it will be easier to read).
[04:30] <xosuitehearts> usr13 understood
[04:31] <lee__> Unless there is a better way to back up a system
[04:31] <xosuitehearts> qin I need to know how to find out what all media codecs I have installed on my ubuntu and what ones I need
[04:31] <xosuitehearts> usr13 you can help me you said?
[04:31] <usr13> xosuitehearts: install libdvdcss2
[04:32] <xosuitehearts> usr13 ive got that
[04:32] <xosuitehearts> usr13 I need to know what all media codecs come with medibuntu
[04:32] <usr13> xosuitehearts: Ok, so you are trying to rip the dvd into what?  an avi file?
[04:33] <xosuitehearts> usr13 Idk if you read my post, but yes, I;ve tried using Dvd::rip and tried to rip the dvd, but it tells me that it stopped short
[04:33] <dr_willis> i use k9copy to rip dvd to a unencrypted dvd iso normally.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[04:34] <xosuitehearts> Heres, basically what I want to know, what media codecs I need, what media codecs I already have, what media codecs come with the Medibuntu, and how I can make sure I'm not downloading the same codecs over again
[04:34] <dr_willis> theres getting to be some weird copy protection fir dvds ive read about
[04:34] <xosuitehearts> My main concern here is that I'm downloading media codecs I already have or have gotten.
[04:35] <Hot2Trot> Any good ideas on how I can "tag" any file or directory I want? I was going to use file extended file attributes, but that doesn't work over sshfs, so that can't work for me..
[04:35] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  if using the package manager it wont redownload them
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: if you add medibuntu and install w32codecs, gnome-mplayer ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc    You should be able to play the majority of junk
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Hot2Trot: you can add emblems in nautilus
[04:35] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis ActionParsnip im using terminal
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: sudo apt-get install w32codecs, gnome-mplayer ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> remove the comma
[04:36] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  it dosent matter. if its installed once it wont reinstall them
[04:36] <Hot2Trot> ActionParsnip: kinda need in terminal so I can make neat scripts using the tags
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> I assume you added the medibuntu repo and are using 32bit gnome desktop
[04:36] <dr_willis> unless you tell it to via options
[04:36] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis ActionParsnip I've lost recognition of what are codecs and what are other important things I need, how can I make sure im not uninstalling a system file
[04:36] <famine> is there a way to get apt-get to give you more information? like in gentoo when you install a package you can see where files go, and also what the executable is named
[04:36] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip yes sir
[04:36] <illmortal> anyone know how to remove the stuck right-click menu on my screen? Besides logging out and logging back into ubuntu? (I thought there was a refresh desktop option?)
[04:37] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis understood
[04:37] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  you are worrying too much
[04:37] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis youre right... I need a xanax
[04:38] <dr_willis> w32cidecs and ubuntu-restricted-extras are all i normally get
[04:38] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis does divx4 and 5 come with?
[04:38] <qin> illmortal: xkill ? You sure it will not go if covered with another window?
[04:39] <dr_willis> divx is acutally mpeg4 i belive. ;)
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its a container, i've heard people say
[04:39] <dr_willis> ive rarly found a video file i cant play xos
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: you'l be fine, you can install helix player too if you want realplayer types too
[04:40] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis ActionParsnip alright. so that takes care of that. now whats the deal with the dvd::rip not completing the rip?
[04:40] <dr_willis> vlc plays rmvb
[04:40] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  i bet its not a codec issue.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: never had to rip DVD, I just use the DVD
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> waaaaay easier
[04:41] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  i use k9copy nirmally
[04:41] <maxagaz> on a sony vaio vpcf1, 4GB of RAM, core i5 (4 cpu), should I install ubuntu 32 or 64 ?
[04:41] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip dr_willis alright so if you could share both ways with me in a pm i would be thankful'
[04:41] <Lithos84> maxagaz: 64
[04:41] <dr_willis> i rarly use the original dvd. k9copy to a unecrypted iso
[04:41] <xosuitehearts> I appreciate your time, all of you
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: I'd shoot for 64bit
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: ways of what?
[04:42] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip, why ?
[04:42] <dr_willis> xosuitehearts:  install k9copy. use wizard.. done ;)
[04:42] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip well how you go about copying without the dvd
[04:42] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis so out with the dvd::rip
[04:42] <xosuitehearts> ?
[04:42] <dr_willis> brb.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: you have a 64bit CPU so you may as well use it to the full, it will also allow you to upgrade RAM without any effort
[04:42] <KingSphinx> On that note, would I really notice any sort of performance gain or hit if I installed Ubuntu 64 on my Dell with 2.5 GB RAM? (1.86 GHz C2D processor)
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: I'd buy the DVD....
[04:43] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip yeah, im using an actual dvd
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> KingSphinx: depends what you are using the system for
[04:43] <xosuitehearts> not an iso
[04:43] <KingSphinx> Everyday use.
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: then why rip it is what I say. You have the disk, just put it in when you want it....
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> KingSphinx: then no, not really
[04:44] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip, why 64 bit ubuntu does not become the default ?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: not all CPUs are 64bit
[04:44] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip I collect my movies for digital manipulations as well as converting to other devices
[04:44] <KingSphinx> Plus Flash is a pain to install on 64-bit Linux, last I heard.
[04:44] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip, is there still new computers with 32bit cpu ?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> KingSphinx: there is 64bit native flash
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: define 'new'
[04:45] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip, computer produced in the last 6 months
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: not sure, I'm sure they will exist so they are catered for
[04:46] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip qin dr_willis thank you for your time and patience with me.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> xosuitehearts: no problem, you were patient and courteous so you deserve it :)
[04:47] <maxagaz> are we gonna have a big battle between unity and gnome shell in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[04:47] <xosuitehearts> ActionParsnip thank you sir. :)
[04:47] <xosuitehearts> ill be back to let you know how it all goes down
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric please
[04:48] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip, okay, thanks!
[04:48] <shermanboyd> can you use apparmor to control what port an app runs on?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> shermanboyd: some apps can be configured on different ports themselves, which app is it you are wanting to change?
[04:50] <xcode> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:52] <shermanboyd> well it's a basically a custom node application, a PaaS thingy, each app runs on it's own port, but the code is uploaded by the user so I want to enforce the port for each app
[04:52] <shermanboyd> I've got some application level code that does that
[04:53] <shermanboyd> but I'd like to enforce on the system level
[04:56] <DoughFlo> hello
[04:56] <illmortal> qin, no.. It's a menu on top of all windows.
[04:58] <nevada1962> ignore
[04:59] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all.  I am getting an exception when I try to run arandr (xubuntu 11.04, just trying to get multihead working).  http://pastebin.com/sL1mSsj8
[05:00] <asif> hi...kindly suggest me an  IDE for C languageprogramming
[05:01] <Peter_Bilt> i used netbeans
[05:01] <TheRedOctober> asif: an IDE for C?  you mean emacs?  (tongue and cheek neigh)
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[05:02] <asif> C language programming
[05:02] <Peter_Bilt> netbeans is great
[05:02] <susundberg> i suggest kdevelop, thats best what i have found ..
[05:02] <Peter_Bilt> it supports c and c++
[05:02] <asif> C language editor compiler and debugger
[05:03] <susundberg> netbeans is fine if you have to use it buts its slow as hell compared to kdevelop
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> susundberg: it will pull in a tonne of Qt deps on a Gnome desktop system
[05:03] <susundberg> True
[05:03] <Peter_Bilt> whatever with today cpus thats not a limiting issue
[05:03] <Peter_Bilt> its javastic but portable
[05:03] <susundberg> Well i think its matter of opinion ..
[05:04] <Peter_Bilt> first usability, then speed
[05:04] <susundberg> Well i do find kdevelop more usable than netbeans, but as said, that is my personal preference
[05:04] <asif> how is gcc..?
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Peter_Bilt: 'with today CPUs' is the microsoft mentality
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> asif: great
[05:05] <Peter_Bilt> ActionParsnip: no its not microsoft its the zeitgeist
[05:05] <asif> ActionParsnip,  is it a C compiler?
[05:05] <Peter_Bilt> time is money
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> asif: yes]
[05:05] <susundberg> ActionParsnip, Peter_Bilt: i have friend of mine who starts to behave aggressively when somebody uses the reason 'with modern cpu's' :)
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> Peter_Bilt: sure but making efficient code rather than assuming people have decent CPUs is lazy
[05:06] <TheRedOctober> Can anyone help me get multihead support on a xubuntu laptop?  this is going out to an end user who plugs in a monitor occasionally, xrandr is not an option, and arandr is broken on 11.04 (at least on xubuntu)
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> TheRedOctober: which GPU do you have?
[05:07] <Peter_Bilt> ok try to code the linux kernel entirely in assembly language, i meet you in 20 years
[05:07] <TheRedOctober> ActionParsnip: Intel 965
[05:07] <Nervous_kiD> help me please
[05:08] <Peter_Bilt> its a balance btw speed and developing time, today everything has to be done yesterday
[05:09] <Peter_Bilt> meowracle and other companies force this
[05:10] <clambake> hello
[05:10] <Mneumonic> hi
[05:10] <Lasers> TheRedOctober: If it's for end-user not familiar with linux at all, suggest the end-user to stick with LTS.
[05:11] <lyle> can ffmpeg encode YUV in an flv container?
[05:13] <Nervous_kiD> Help me please? Erorr warcraft 3 (wine)
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> Nervous_kiD: if you give some details we may be able to help
[05:13] <asif> why my desktop looks broken like this http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-vRJcfGlH.png
[05:14] <zHammeRz> asif, graphic card overheating?
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT"
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT"
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\nervous_kid\\warcraft\\Storm.dll") not found
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> err:module:import_dll Library Storm.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\nervous_kid\\warcraft\\war3.exe") not found
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\nervous_kid\\warcraft\\war3.exe") not found
[05:14] <Nervous_kiD> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\nervous_kid\\warcraft\\war3.exe" failed, status c0000135
[05:14] <KindOne> pastebin please.
[05:15] <Nervous_kiD> its command wine /home.../war3.exe
[05:15] <comando2> hello
[05:15] <Flannel> Nervous_kiD: You might have better luck in #winehq and you should use a pastebin.
[05:15] <comando2> help
[05:15] <asif> zHammeRz,  I dont think so , windows 7 is working fine
[05:16] <comando2> necito codec multimedia
[05:16] <clambake> i cant get my b43 driver to load for my 14e4:4315. its present in lib/firmware/net.. ive tried to blacklist my wl driver, it disables my wlan as expected, when i try to modprobe b43 it stays silent, but doesnt claim my broadcom device
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> asif: do you use an intel 8xxx GPU per chance?
[05:16] <Nervous_kiD> what its pastebin?
[05:16] <KindOne> rww, might want to ban her account... she goes through a lot of IP's.
[05:16] <asif> ActionParsnip,  yes
[05:16] <rww> KindOne: I'm aware.
[05:16] <comando2> soy nuevo
[05:17] <comando2> novato
[05:17] <clambake> sorry for the interruption, if any one has the time to look at my problem, it would be greatly appreciated
[05:17] <comando2> en ubuntu
[05:17] <dr_willis> clambake:  i think 5he b43 midule has been replaced by somthing newer these days.
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> asif: they are VERY picky with timings and such and are prone to glitches and lockups
[05:17] <clambake> ah  i see
[05:17] <asif> ActionParsnip,  any solution for that
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> asif: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes  basically, they suck
[05:17] <clambake> well whats the new drivers these days, ive been googling and wiki'ing like crazy for the past week -____-
[05:18] <clambake> im trying to learn, i have backtrack 4 live usb boot
[05:18] <dr_willis> !b43
[05:18] <asif> ActionParsnip,  I can replace it , if you could suggest me an alteranative
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> clambake: backtrack is offtopic here and not supported
[05:19] <dr_willis> I dont use b43 Any more
[05:19] <clambake> -_______-
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | clambake
[05:20] <maxii> action parsnip do you know backtrack i mean the ubuntu modification
[05:20] <maxii> do you know how to upgrade vlc in backtrack
[05:20] <rww> maxii: Go ask #backtrack-linux.
[05:20] <rww> #ubuntu is for Ubuntu and official derivatives.
[05:21] <maxii> hey dude its a ubuntu derivative ok
[05:21] <clambake> :/ lol
[05:21] <rww> maxii: note the "official" part
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> maxii: irrelevant, it's NOT ubuntu, it's backtrack.
[05:21] <maxii> kde interface
[05:21] <maxii> k
[05:21] <dr_willis> maxii:  dose not matter
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> maxii: you can name any ubuntu spinoff and it's equally not supported here
[05:22] <maxii> xfce interface in ubuntu is it possible via gdesklets
[05:22] <maxii> ok i mean has anybody used gdesklets
[05:23] <asif> is ubuntu dropping classic gnome desktop in nextrelease..?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> asif: yes, unity2d wil replace it
[05:23] <maxii> i guess not
[05:23] <rww> !notunity-#ubuntu+1
[05:23] <maxii> hey unity is not an interface
[05:23] <maxii> its a modification just
[05:24] <FrozenFire> How might I go about packaging a driver that I've noticed is missing from the repository, but is GPL, and having it added to the repo?
[05:24] <maxii> a modification of gnome like others, xfce lxde kde gnome etc
[05:24] <FrozenFire> It's for the JMC250 Gigabit NIC by JMicron
[05:24] <asif> ActionParsnip,  what is wrong with gnome and why canononical is pushing so hard towards unity
[05:25] <yagoo> FrozenFire, you know how to check if its already loaded?
[05:25] <maxii> asif what you know about unity
[05:25] <maxii> do you think its an interface
[05:25] <FrozenFire> yagoo, I just installed it myself to resolve only getting 10Mb/s speeds, and I'd like to package it for others, so they don't run into the same issue.
[05:25] <yagoo> maxii, xfce/lxde are "window managers"
[05:26] <maxii> who told
[05:26] <FrozenFire> To phrase it better: "I'd like to contribute."
[05:26] <cdnjay> @asif I think the problem is mainly the Gnome road map, not as much with Gnome 2.0
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> asif: not sure
[05:26] <yagoo> FrozenFire, ?
[05:26] <maxii> they are there in many linuxes
[05:26] <maxii> don't you know
[05:26] <asif> maxii,  i know unity is a shell
[05:26] <yagoo> FrozenFire, package what?
[05:26] <FrozenFire> yagoo, ??
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> maxii: unity is an interface, it helps users to run and manage apps
[05:27] <FrozenFire> yagoo, My initial question was regarding how I might package a driver and have it added to the Ubuntu repo.
[05:27] <clambake> when i try to apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, shell is replying with"couldnt find package" does this not exist anymore?
[05:27] <FrozenFire> So that others can benefit from it.
[05:27] <maxii> ya actionscript i know its based on gnome
[05:27] <asif> unity is fine but it makes day to day working on my PC a bit difficult
[05:27] <SIFTU> FrozenFire: sounds like that should be updated in the kernel?
[05:27] <yagoo> FrozenFire, what is the source? maybe provide a reportbug feedback to somewhere would be helpful
[05:27] <maxii> asif unity is a shell ,or what,
[05:27] <maxii> how can it be a shell
[05:27] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, Probably.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> maxii: that's irrelevant in Linux, you can interchange between apps, you can run gnome apps ni KDE if you want...
[05:28] <maxii> ya actionscript i know
[05:28] <asif> unity is a shall wraped around gnome
[05:28] <maxii> don't spam
[05:28] <dr_willis> unity is a shell likw gnome slell is.
[05:28] <FrozenFire> yagoo, Actually, that's a good idea. Perhaps I'll open a bug for the Linux kernel? I think that's generally where device drivers should land, yes?
[05:28] <maxii> shell is something like bask korn c etc
[05:28] <maxii> ha ha ha
[05:28] <maxii> not anything else
[05:29] <dr_willis> maxii:  you are wrong
[05:29] <maxii> oo
[05:29] <maxii> then you tell me
[05:29] <msshams> i add this line in crontab with crontab -e: "*/5 * * * * app cd /var/www/reop && git pull" but doesn't run :( can anyone help me to fix that please?
[05:29] <maxii> what you think
[05:29] <yagoo> FrozenFire, you can try reportingbug on kernel package i guess
[05:29] <cdnjay> Unity and Gnome are Graphical Use Interface's (GUI) similar to Mac OS X's Aqua.  The alternative is the Command Line Interface (CLI) which is the shell.
[05:29] <dr_willis> shell has many definitions
[05:29] <maxii> just tell me what is a shell dr,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[05:29] <cdnjay> I think bash is the current Ubuntu default CLI?
[05:30] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[05:30] <yagoo> cdnjay, in general for all linux.. bash is the default shell
[05:30] <asif> maxii,  unity is not a complete DE
[05:30] <Flannel> msshams: in your crontab?
[05:30] <maxii> ok let me tell,a shell  is something like win command promt or win powr shell also one could write shell scripts with it
[05:30] <maxii> is it clear
[05:30] <maxii> De??
[05:30] <maxii> wht is it
[05:30] <dr_willis> maxii:  thats one defunation
[05:30] <msshams> Flannel: yep
[05:30] <asif> desktop envireoment
[05:30] <maxii> else ??
[05:30] <rww> maxii: 1) This is not an Ubuntu support question. 2) There are two definitions of "shell" in common use in computing.
[05:31] <maxii> shell lives two lives like neo of matrix
[05:31] <ofan> shell is an interface
[05:31] <maxii> 8)
[05:31] <yagoo> rww, he's not asking the question.. cdnjay.. maxii is only showing off
[05:31] <SIFTU> FrozenFire: have you checked to see if its been updated in later kernels?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> maxii: unity runs as a plugin shell for compiz which runs on top of gnome which runs on the X server
[05:31] <clambake> when i try to apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, shell is replying with"couldnt find package" does this not exist anymore?
[05:31] <maxii> hey don';t get me wrong
[05:31] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, Doing so right now. I'm trying to find out if there's a list somewhere.
[05:31] <maxii> really
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:32] <Flannel> msshams: user crontabs don't have a user (app) that they run as. Is there a carriage return at the end of the line (and/or another line below it)?  Also, you can specify your path in the git command itself (--git-dir)
[05:32] <maxii> actronscript i know that you know
[05:32] <maxii> ur good man
[05:32] <maxii> really
[05:32] <maxii> at least i don't have to teach someone about shell
[05:32] <yagoo> FrozenFire, did u even check to see if there's a jmicron module? (find /lib/modules |grep -i jmic)
[05:32] <maxii> 8)
[05:32] <FrozenFire> yagoo, It's called "jme"
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> clambake: your OS isn't supported here
[05:33] <yagoo> FrozenFire, sometimes u can pass parameters to modules (modinfo <modulename>)
[05:33] <SIFTU> yagoo: it sounds like the jme module is old and FrozenFire installed a newer version
[05:33] <FrozenFire> yagoo, As I say, I'm not personally having any problems with it. I was looking to see whether it could be updated in the Linux kernel, or perhaps as a separate package in the Ubuntu repo, in order to resolve this problem for others.
[05:33] <yagoo> SIFTU, can u change ur name? i had no idea FrozenFire was addressing you.
[05:33] <yagoo> nways.. nmind that..
[05:34] <maxii> yagoo what happened with you os
[05:34] <SIFTU> FrozenFire: unfortunately kernel.org is down due to the attack.. the changelogs are there :)
[05:34] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, http://lxr.linux.no/linux/drivers/net/jme.c
[05:34] <yagoo> FrozenFire, I know you're asking a fair question. But it sounds like you don't know the system well enough to attack a kernel problem.. which is why i was asking about what particular problem it is
[05:34] <Nervous_kiD> Made warcraft 3 is specifically for Linux?
[05:34] <FrozenFire> yagoo, Believe me, I do.
[05:35] <dr_willis> Nervous_kiD:  what?
[05:35] <Nervous_kiD> warcraft 3 for linux?
[05:35] <yagoo> FrozenFire, did u try checking to see if this was fixed with linux.org's latest?
[05:35] <dr_willis> Nervous_kiD:  no its not
[05:35] <msshams_> Flannel: i use redmine as a project management, and i sync it with git repository, now i want to fetch my git repository automatically, can you help me how can i write this command in cron?
[05:35] <ofan> Nervous_kiD: Use wine.
[05:35] <yagoo> FrozenFire, i mean kernel.org's latest
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Nervous_kiD: http://tinyurl.com/5cstq8
[05:35] <FrozenFire> yagoo, That's what I'm doing, presently.
[05:36] <SIFTU> yagoo: kernel.org is down
[05:36] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, http://lxr.linux.no/linux/drivers/net/jme.h It seems it's out of date.
[05:36] <FrozenFire> The DRV_VERSION should be "<IP_ADDRESS>-jmmod"
[05:36] <cnz> question, whewn I look at cpuinfo it only shows my cpus at 800mhz and not 3000mhz any ideas why?
[05:37] <FrozenFire> As per <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:37] <Cent_os> Greetings, I've positioned the active window list on a side panel, rather then the default, I'm GNOME desktop and not the default 11.04 interface. My problem is that the the  size of the task bar items change with every new window that I open up, I heard that this is a known bug , but was not able to find a working solution.
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> cnz: they probably aren't being stretched so they have clocked down to save power
[05:37] <cnz> ActionParsnip: no
[05:38] <Nervous_kiD> ofan wine say erorr =(
[05:38] <cnz> it never shows over 800mhz no matter what
[05:38] <SIFTU> FrozenFire: nice find.. but really thats where it has to be updated
[05:38] <cnz> it did this before then I installed some package and it fixed it but I can't remember what the package was
[05:38] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, Yep. I'll look into filing a bug once I can.
[05:38] <SIFTU> FrozenFire: you probably could create a PPA
[05:38] <dr_willis> !appdb | Nervous_kiD
[05:38] <FrozenFire> SIFTU, Good idea. Perhaps I will.
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> cnz: try a few tabs with youtube vids at 1080p, should do it nicely
[05:40] <cnz> ActionParsnip: been there done that
[05:40] <cnz> doesn't change it
[05:41] <maxii> cnz what doesn't change
[05:42] <cnz> my cpu info
[05:42] <cnz> it won't go over 800mhz
[05:42] <maxii> even after overclocking
[05:42] <asif> what is ubuntu one?
[05:42] <cnz> asif: ubuntus rip off of dropbox
[05:42] <maxii> hey you sure that your cpu can be overclocked
[05:43] <cnz> possitive
[05:43] <maxii> beware else u could burn it
[05:43] <cnz> it's an x4 945 3.0ghz
[05:43] <maxii> old one
[05:43] <cnz> not that old
[05:43] <cnz> and im not even over clocking it
[05:43] <asif> cnz,  i wish i knew what was  dropbox
[05:43] <maxii> then
[05:43] <maxii> ?
[05:44] <cnz> what you mean then?
[05:44] <bullgard4> asif: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_One
[05:44] <cnz> cpuinfo should be showing 3000mhz
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> cnz: tried the oneiric liveCD, newer kernel may make it play nicer
[05:44] <cnz> not 800
[05:44] <maxii> hey you told its an old one and so i guess its not supportive for overclocking then what else
[05:44] <maxii> or i am getting complicated
[05:44] <cnz> no you're just not understanding
[05:45] <Thelmaria> cnz: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies to show the avalible scaled frequencies. cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor to show the current covenor - if it's 'ondemand', chances are that it's just been scaled back due to low load.
[05:45] <asif> How do i know what version of opengl I have..?
[05:45] <maxii> ya i know cnz you r right
[05:45] <Peter_Bilt> dmesg or something
[05:46] <maxii> then tell me what is the matter
[05:46] <cnz> Thelmaria: I had this problem before and I was advice to install a package and it fixed it
[05:46] <cnz> but I can't remember that package
[05:46] <branant> Clean install of 11.04 gives me the following message: "VPN service failed to start"
[05:46] <Peter_Bilt> dmesg | grep fglrxinfo
[05:46] <branant> Anyone had a similar issue?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> branant: are you fully updated?
[05:47] <Peter_Bilt> dmesg | grep fglrx
[05:47] <Peter_Bilt> o rsomething
[05:47] <branant> ActionParsnip, Yes, 219 packages
[05:47] <cnz> Thelmaria: yeaeh it's on ondemand but for some reason it never changes has I do stuff
[05:47] <cnz> it stays at 800mhz
[05:47] <branant> It is a 64bit version
[05:48] <asif> Is OPENGL is there by default or i have to install it later?
[05:48] <xutnubu> hello
[05:48] <branant> Network-manager-pptp plugin is installed
[05:48] <xutnubu> :) anyone here?
[05:49] <branant> I am connecting to a pptp through Network-manager
[05:49] <maxii> hey hi
[05:49] <maxii> xubuntu
[05:49] <yagoo> asif, it's accessible with the optimum video driver
[05:50] <Thelmaria> cnz: If you're on a desktop you can swap to performance (use highest avalibel freq all the time) - google for it, or as root: echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor. I'm sure there's packages to do it, and I'm -almost- sure it'll stay on reboot, but that's how I've done both my boxes.
[05:50] <Thelmaria> cnz: If you're on a laptop I'd stick with ondemand to save power.
[05:51] <cnz> yeah im on a desktop
[05:51] <cnz> Thelmaria: I don't mind it being on scaling just want to make sure it actually scales
[05:51] <cnz> and it doesnt seem to
[05:51] <cache_surplus> how can i switch between the 5 diff edubuntu desktops,  i saw during install.
[05:52] <chronofx> super+s I think
[05:52] <dr_willis> cache_surplus:  most likly different themes in the settings
[05:52] <cache_surplus> nope, its not themes
[05:52] <dr_willis> cache_surplus:  ir do you mean virtual desktops?
[05:52] <cache_surplus> its actually diff desktops, that have completely diff programs loaded for say 3 graders, vs 8th graders.
[05:52] <cache_surplus> nope
[05:53] <cache_surplus> edubuntu is a 2.7 gig install DVD
[05:53] <cache_surplus> needed over 15gigs to install
[05:53] <Thelmaria> cnz: Theres a load threshold setting somewhere, if I remember right. (You'd need to swap govenors for all cpu cores, by the way) - googling for "cpu frequency manager ubuntu" gives lots of packages / other ways.
[05:53] <dr_willis> look in rhe gdm.sessions menu perhaps
[05:53] <cache_surplus> they are seperate desktops
[05:53] <cache_surplus> ill check
[05:53] <cnz> Thelmaria: sweet, I will check it out here in a sec, thank you for helping
[05:53] <dr_willis> desktop is a vague term.in  thus case
[05:54] <cache_surplus> so
[05:54] <cache_surplus> you get the point
[05:54] <dr_willis> I thinj the term is session. ;p
[05:55] <cache_surplus> xsession i know
[05:55] <dr_willis> each gdm session can be a very different desktop enviroment
[05:55] <cache_surplus> not here for all that, if you know, great. enlighten me, as i do not see any options at login splash to change from say kde to gnome, but in the edubuntu sense
[05:56] <dr_willis> check edbuntu docs I guess. no other ideas where they would hide it.
[05:57] <dr_willis> !edubuntu
[05:58] <dr_willis> hmm no #edubuntu mentioned
[05:59] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:05] <cnz> Thelmaria: I seaarched google for what you suggestion
[06:05] <cnz> I found 0 info on packages
[06:05] <cnz> all a bunch of outdated info is what I have found
[06:05] <cache_surplus> dr_willis: i know you dont know, its ok,,, someone else might
[06:06] <cache_surplus> edubuntu docs i cant find the answer,,, its like search engined for kids or something lol
[06:10] <Loshki> cache_surplus: try also #edubuntu. It's a small group so be prepared to wait a while for responses.
[06:11] <kblin> hi folks
[06:12] <cache_surplus> :|
[06:12] <cache_surplus> im already there, getting some answers
[06:12] <cache_surplus> thanks
[06:14] <kblin> I'm using natty with ifupdown for setting up my eth0 interface, but network manager keeps clearing out my /etc/resolv.conf
[06:14] <kblin> how do I stop it from doing that?
[06:14] <ujjain> argh, so many issues while moving to Ubuntu from Windows,
[06:14] <ujjain> how can I troubleshot a segfault that is caused when importing a file in Seahorse?
[06:19] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis what do you do when you use k9copy?
[06:20] <xosuitehearts> dr_willis ive tried to rip and encode using k9copy but i had no luck, all i got was this: http://pastebin.com/8HfaXDi1
[06:22] <fred5> fred5
[06:24] <xosuitehearts> !seen dr_willis
[06:24] <pulgoki> dr_willis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen Tue Sep 13 09:47:15 2011 quiting the network
[06:24] <the> 怎么用这个聊天室
[06:24] <Defusal> hi everyone, im having a permissions issue... i set nginx to use the www-data user and group, and added the www-data group to my own user, yet i still cannot access the nginx log after its been rotated 24 hours later
[06:25] <Defusal> does anyone know what i am missing?
[06:25] <the> I'm sorry
[06:33] <Dollz> gearmand -vvvv gives me errors
[06:33] <glebihan> Defusal, what are the permissions set to on the log file ?
[06:33] <Dollz> and gearmand -vvv -q libdrizzle ERROR [  main ] Unknown queue libdrizzle(UNKNOWN_OPTION) -> libgearman-server/queue.cc:105  gearmand: Error while initializing the queue :
[06:34] <Corey> Like an idiot, I just blew away the squid init script (/etc/init.d/squid).  How do I get apt / aptitude to reinstall it?
[06:34] <Dollz> any body can help
[06:35] <sterna> Corey: save configs, purge, install again
[06:35] <Corey> sterna: On this box there are 50 or so deps for squid.  Uninstalling it isn't an option.
[06:36] <glebihan> Corey, using "sudo apt-get install --resintall packagename" should work (I don't know the exact package name for squid
[06:37] <sterna> Corey: you can just purge it with no deps and apt will reinstall it on apt-get install -f
[06:38] <sterna> but what glebihan said might work, too
[06:38] <glebihan> sterna, no need to purge it
[06:38] <sterna> i'm not sure about the init script, though
[06:38] <sterna> i've had issues with it not getting reinstalled
[06:38] <sterna> btw, has anyone seen grub prompt forever after an unclean shutdown?
[06:39] <sterna> i have a somewhat embedded box that just displays stuff on a big screen and every time it gets powered down violently grub stops with the menu
[06:39] <sterna> on a clean reboot, everything is ok
[06:39] <sterna> this only happens on ubuntu
[06:39] <xukun> is it possible to the last replay given on my question?
[06:39] <timClicks> how do use provide a file with a list of fixed strings to supply for grep -E?
[06:40] <xukun> is it possible to see the last replay given on my question?
[06:40] <xukun> sorry
[06:40] <sterna> timClicks: -f
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> sterna: if you boot to liveCD and reinstate grub, does it help?
[06:40] <sterna> ActionParsnip: no
[06:40] <timClicks> sterna: ty
[06:40] <sterna> grub only prompts when i power cycle
[06:40] <sterna> if i reboot cleanly after that, it doesn't prompt
[06:40] <sterna> it boots like the config file says
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> timClicks: grep -E file    or:   cat file | grep -E
[06:41] <sterna> i have a feeling this is a "feature" in grub
[06:41] <sterna> timClicks: -f means a file with patterns to match
[06:42] <Defusal> glebihan: nginx writes to the log file, which is why i configured it to use the www-data user/group
[06:42] <sterna> one per line
[06:42] <sterna> i'm sorry if i misunderstood
[06:42] <glebihan> Defusal, but what are the actual permissions on the file ? does the group have read permission ?
[06:43] <whowantstolivefo> hi, is there anyone know how to install my logitech mx5500 keyboard+mouse set software to my ubuntu 11.04 ?
[06:44] <irctc040> n1x
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> whowantstolivefo: what does it currently do or not do? Which release are you using?
[06:45] <Defusal> glebihan, -rw-r-----
[06:45] <Snicksie> i'm trying to save my synaptic-settings, but i'm having a little problem :p I can change the settings on-the-fly with synclient and syndaemon, but after a reboot my settings are gone (and thats nothing strange, because that behavior is expected)... The problem is: I don't know howto save these settings in xorg or where-ever it should be :p
[06:47] <whowantstolivefo> ActionParsnip: 11.04 natty ubuntu i use, i buy this keyboard set yesterday, but i cant install software this via wine
[06:47] <glebihan> Defusal, and it is owned by user www-data and group www-data ? also what are the permissions on the parent folder ?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> whowantstolivefo: you don't need the software. You aren't running windows
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> whowantstolivefo: how does the set run at the moment? Fyi, logitech hates Linux
[06:48] <Defusal> glebihan, yes... the parent directory is owned by root, being /var/log
[06:49] <nick_name> helloo
[06:49] <nick_name> dafadfadf
[06:49] <nick_name> adsfaf
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Hi nick_name
[06:49] <nick_name> hi
[06:49] <nick_name> actionparnship
[06:50] <glebihan> Defusal, did you log out and back in since you added your user to the www-data group ?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> nick_name: use TAB to complete nicks. Easier a
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> And more accurate
[06:50] <Defusal> i think so.. im not completely sure
[06:51] <nick_name> ok
[06:52] <whowantstolivefo> ActionParsnip: okay then i will install some windows to another pc and i will use this at windows, this ruin my dreams.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> whowantstolivefo: you never answered my question... You've made
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> No attempt to get it going
[06:54] <Defusal> glebihan, hmm, i think its nginx not using the correct user
[06:54] <Snicksie> maybe this can help you whowantstolivefo http://home.gna.org/mx5000tools/ ?
[06:54] <Defusal> its strange that it worked for 24 hours after adding the group to my user
[06:54] <Defusal> but now that i removed the log file and restarted nginx, the created file belongs to root
[06:55] <Defusal> so its ignoring the user/group config :(
[06:55] <glebihan> Defusal, the log file may have been deleted and recreated since then
[06:55] <Defusal> sigh
[06:55] <Defusal> this is a major problem
[06:55] <glebihan> Defusal, log files are not always created as your user your configure a server to run as (root is usually the owner of all log files)
[06:55] <glebihan> Defusal, I think it's by design
[06:56] <Defusal> glebihan, how can i solve that? i was told this is the correct way to be able to read log files from a user
[06:56] <skpl_> is there a way to make gnome-shell start instead of gnome2?
[06:56] <dobry> i think the only solution is to just not have a log file
[06:56] <Defusal> a whole platform of mine is down now, because it cannot open the log file
[06:56] <whowantstolivefo> Snicksie: thanks, i will check this out
[06:57] <Defusal> i need to be able to read the log file from a process running under my user
[06:58] <dobry> what log file?
[06:58] <dobry> (just catching end of convo)
[06:58] <Defusal> - /var/log/nginx/ip.access.log
[07:00] <dobry> you have a rotate conf?
[07:00] <Defusal> yup
[07:01] <dobry> i believe that takes over permission assignment.
[07:01] <Defusal> well i havn't actually made a rotate config, its just configurated like that by default
[07:01] <Dollz> how can I search in my installed libraries
[07:02] <dobry> if you don't need it, try deleting the conf file for it and see if that solves problem?
[07:02] <Defusal> there is no seperate config dobry
[07:02] <dobry> no logrotate.conf?
[07:02] <Defusal> nope
[07:03] <dobry> hmmmm
[07:03] <Defusal> oh theres a /etc/logrotate.conf dobry
[07:03] <Defusal> i didnt that that was used by nginx
[07:03] <Defusal> but i do want log rotation
[07:03] <Defusal> else the log will become huge
[07:04] <Defusal> it archives it every 24 hours by default
[07:05] <Dollz> guys I', trying to remove gearman  by apt-get remove libgearman4 gearman gearman-server gearman-tools gearman-job-server .... but when I type gearman as a command , it still shows me the help file of gearman
[07:05] <dobry> ok that's probably whats setting your rights after 24 hours. could perhaps cron a script to rotate it "manually" as a quick thought,....googling if there is anything you can do in that config to override permissions
[07:05] <Dollz> PLEASE HELP
[07:05] <Dollz> because I need to make a fresh install
[07:05] <dobry> could also rely own it's own permissions/read another config file
[07:06] <dobry> not sure
[07:06] <dobry> on*
[07:06] <sterna> Dollz: dpkg -l | grep -i gearman
[07:06] <sterna> also, does your apt-get remove even complete successfully?
[07:06] <legija> damn
[07:06] <legija> I have problems with gnome3
[07:07] <legija> after restart, all the programs installed disappear
[07:07] <Dollz> sterna: yes I think
[07:07] <legija> all the newly installed
[07:07] <sterna> Dollz: does dpkg -l | grep gearman display anything?
[07:07] <Dollz> sterna: there are some libraries that I removed , but still showing when I ran your comand
[07:07] <sterna> oh
[07:07] <Dollz> sterna: yes , libgearman4 for example
[07:08] <Dollz> sterna: that I'm sure it's removed
[07:08] <sterna> try dpkg -r libgearman4
[07:08] <dobry> found this: This is by design: workers are not restarted on USR1 signal, therefore
[07:08] <dobry> master sets file onwer so workers are able to open the new logs files.
[07:08] <dobry> I do not consdier this as a potential security breach, since workers
[07:08] <dobry> anyway write to these files.
[07:08] <dobry> did i see something about you trying to make a group?
[07:08] <Dollz> sterna: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libgearman4, only the config
[07:08] <Dollz>  files of which are on the system. Use --purge to remove them too.
[07:09] <Defusal> ah, i found a user setting in its logrotate.d file dobry
[07:10] <Dollz> sterna: should I use dpkg -r libgearman4 --purge ?
[07:10] <dobry> sweet. that's got to be it then
[07:10] <Defusal> but when i restart nginx, it still creates the file as root dobry
[07:11] <alecat> Hi
[07:11] <sterna> Dollz: possibly, but be careful with purge, it also removes config files and such
[07:11] <sterna> in this case i think it's ok
[07:11] <alecat> Any one here has ever installed ubuntu on a macbook ?
[07:12] <Dollz> sterna: k good , should I do that with all that I found using dpkg -l | grep gearman ?
[07:12] <djbrown> how can i get ubuntu to unlock my ssh key on login
[07:13] <dobry> hmmm. i'm not too familiar with nginx configs, honestly. I'm just taking crack shots here...I think you are in the right ballpark though
[07:13] <djbrown> isnt the gnome keyring supposed to try and unlock it
[07:15] <sterna> Dollz: i'm not sure
[07:15] <sterna> Dollz: which ones do you get?
[07:15] <sterna> and if apt-get remove completed successfully, there shouldn't be any left
[07:16] <Dollz> sterna: gearman-job-server , gearman-server0 ..
[07:17] <nick_name> hello
[07:17] <Dollz> sterna: anyway , I removed all and restarted the machine
[07:17] <nick_name> helloo
[07:17] <nick_name> asdadada
[07:18] <Defusal> dobry, yeah, well if only I could get it working
[07:18] <Defusal> I need this platform back up, and I need it not to crash in 24 hours :(
[07:18] <sterna> Dollz: restart doesn't do anything
[07:19] <sterna> what's the status on the ones left? rc? ii?
[07:19] <Dollz> rc
[07:19] <sterna> ok that means they in fact are removed, but not purged
[07:19] <Dollz> I'm used to windows , lol
[07:19] <Defusal> dobry, it seems nginx creates log files as root before changing to www-data, and using "nginx -s reopen" fixes the user, but not the group
[07:19] <jstoone> hey guys, is it possible to make my battery charge to 100% turn off, untill 90% is reached and then charge back up, and so on?
[07:19] <new2net> jstoone, anything is possible
[07:20] <jstoone> new2net: hehe, that I am sure of! :D but would you know how?
[07:20] <awaad> Is there any command which I can use to install a package saved in my home directory and if needed some packages for dependencies it searches for it on the internet ?
[07:20] <awaad> Some thing like "yum localinstall" in RedHat ?
[07:21] <jstoone> dpkg -i <package-name>.deb
[07:21] <new2net> jstoone: find the source for whatever shows you "hey jstoone u have this much battery life left", i'm sure if you take your time reading the source you will only need to code about 10-20 lines to make what you want happen
[07:21] <Dollz> sterna: thank you , I will now make a fresh install according to the guide
[07:22] <nick_name> asfdsf
[07:22] <jstoone> new2net: Yessir! ;) Would you have anywhere to point me to?
[07:24] <new2net> jstoone: the ubuntu laptop source & man fgrep & svn (which you may need to get the source)
[07:24] <zamba> when booting my computer i get dropped directly into the grub shell.. what could be wrong?
[07:24] <zamba> and how can i boot my os?
[07:25] <zamba> "GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu7 - Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions... " and so on
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Zamba: boo to liveCD and reinstate grub. I assume you didn't use wubi
[07:26] <zamba> ActionParsnip: what's wubi?
[07:26] <zamba> ActionParsnip: i can't boot the system from the grub prompt?
[07:27] <zamba> and from there reinstate grub?
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Zamba: you can but i personally don't know how. You at least now have a plan b
[07:28] <Gredeu> has Mona been around ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Zamba: sure, if you can manual boot from grub prompt you can get fixed in the OS
[07:30] <wildbat> Zamba : you can boot from there , but it is a lot confusing for many ppl,especially you don't know the partition scheme of your PC , is it a grub> or grub rescue>
[07:30] <zamba> grub>
[07:31] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I downloaded an old version of firefox (3.6) , but when I try to run it , it opens firefox 6.0.2 which is the latest installed on system
[07:31] <silv3r_m00n> how to run an old version ?
[07:31] <Dollz> how to get PPA  keys
[07:31] <scarleo> Hi, my apparmor profiles for i.e. firefox keeps getting overwritten every update of firefox. Is there no way to store custom rules that won't be overwritten?
[07:31] <Dollz> Follow the instructions for getting PPA (Personal Package Archive) keys for both these items : DRIZZLE = https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-developers/+archive/ppa
[07:32] <Dollz> how can I get these keys
[07:32] <urlin2u> Dollz, they are on the pppa but if you run a update you will see the missing ones there is a command to load them.
[07:33] <wildbat> zamba: try (tab if you need)  :   configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:33] <Dollz> urlin2u: this one ? add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[07:33] <zamba> error: unknown command 'background_color'.
[07:33] <zamba> error: unknown command 'hwmatch'
[07:33] <zamba> syntax error
[07:33] <zamba> incorrect command
[07:33] <zamba> (i know, i shoul've pasted ;))
[07:34] <imc> hello, I want to change my *systemwide* keyboard layout (meaning console and xorg). How do I achieve that? (no, i do not have any xorg.conf)
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Dollz: yes that's right. It adds the ppa and the key
[07:35] <Gredeu> zamba, you don't look too smart either
[07:35] <Dollz> ActionParsnip: great , thanks
[07:35] <Dollz> urlin2u: thanks
[07:35] <urlin2u> Dollz, no if you run a update you will see a set of letter and numbers. this is the command sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[07:36] <urlin2u> Dollz, that command one space then the key from the update.
[07:36] <Dollz> urlin2u: K,  will try that now
[07:37] <urlin2u> Dollz, but ActionParsnip  is correct in that the first will load both.
[07:37] <wildbat> zamba: try (where xx is your kernel version, tab for it )  :   linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.xx-xx-generic root=/dev/sda
[07:38] <Dollz> urlin2u: yes , I ran it and got in the return msg : --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv D687A54E147F6B81BF3D2E914FEC4
[07:38] <Dollz> 9068 gpg: requesting key 06899068 from hkp serve
[07:38] <Dollz> urlin2u: ops , are these keys meant to be secret ?
[07:38] <wildbat> zamba: sdaX  the partition of your root .
[07:39] <urlin2u> Dollz, there are the gpg signing key to secure your getting the right stuf basically.
[07:39] <wildbat> zamba: then     initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.xx-xx-generic        ; then         boot
[07:40] <Dollz> urlin2u: like checksum md5 hash ?
[07:41] <urlin2u> Dollz, in a sense yes but, this probably explains it better http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
[07:41] <Dollz> urlin2u: thank you
[07:42] <urlin2u> Dollz, no problem.
[07:43] <zamba> wildbat: i'll try, have to find the root partition, though
[07:44] <wildbat> zamba: ls see if you have a clue  , or type  (hd0,  and tab for more info ~ ls (hd0,X) to list the file.
[07:45] <zamba> ah, sweet
[07:45] <zamba> ext2 on hd0,1
[07:45] <zamba> hd0,5 is unknown filesystem
[07:46] <zamba> wildbat: it boots! nice.. what now, to make stuff permanent?
[07:47] <Luciana> hello
[07:47] <wildbat> zamba: sudo update-grub
[07:47] <parapan> hi fellows > could you plase recommend the best antivirus software for linux world ?
[07:48] <el_seano> parapan: iptables :P
[07:48] <el_seano> parapan: but seriously, do you think you have a virus?  Generally, it's not a concern for linux users.
[07:49] <RedNifre> Hi
[07:49] <RedNifre> How to move the launcher to the bottom of the screen?
[07:50] <parapan> el_seano: iptables does something else ...filtering packets and stuff ...
[07:50] <el_seano> parapan: good way to lock down viruses.  Close all unnecessary ports.
[07:51] <zamba> wildbat: but won't that just update legacy grub? i shouldn't install grub2 while i'm at it?
[07:51] <parapan> el_seano: I use USB devices from the windows world and just wanted to be aware of viruses .....on the other hand I think there are some viruses for linux also .....
[07:52] <wildbat> zamba: your system should only have one grub ~ v1 or v2 ~
[07:52] <el_seano> parapan: they exist, but generally it's required that you explicitly install them.  Linux is nice in that it allows you the flexibility to construct a system that is highly resistant to the worst kind of infections (namely, being rooted).
[07:52] <zamba> wildbat: but isn't it recommended to be running grub2 these days?
[07:52] <wildbat> zamba: yes that's the default.
[07:53] <zamba> wildbat: yeah, but not when you're upgrading from previous ubuntu versions
[07:53] <parapan> el_seano: Ok ..so it's not something to be concerned off ..
[07:53] <el_seano> generally not;  definitely not in the same way that you would be with a windows box.
[07:53] <wildbat> zamba: oh so you don't have grub2 installed yet ?~
[07:53] <urlin2u> parapan, trojans=rootkits are your only woory, but they need root access.
[07:54] <wildbat> zamba: sudo apt-get install grub2; sudo update-grub;
[07:54] <el_seano> but it all comes down to being cautious in everything you do.  Don't expose your system to remote logins from the open internet, don't execute arbitrary code downloaded from suspect sources, don't paste commands into a terminal without having at least some semblance of an idea as to what they do, etc etc.
[07:55] <zamba> wildbat: grub2 is installed but not the default one
[07:55] <el_seano> the same can be said for windows boxes.  It all just takes a little education and precaution.
[07:55] <parapan> urlin2u: Ok ...got that ...that's the weakness of windows ....trojans being able to install code without having admin privileges ....
[07:56] <urlin2u> zamba, read here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading   if your logged in you can purge grub and install grub-pc  and grub- common  the sudo grub-install /dev/sda   if sda is the HD and then run sudo update-grub
[07:57] <zamba> urlin2u: ok, thanks
[07:59] <urlin2u> zamba, If it was me I would run sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common then sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common    then accept the grub to the mbr probably sda  then to be sure run the grub-install to the sda then update-grub
[08:02] <waza-ari> Hey all, i have two logical partitions, /dev/sda6 containing old ubuntu system and /dev/sda7 containing new ubuntu system. Can i somehow delete sda6 and use that space for sda7 without destroying my complete system?
[08:02] <ikonia> waza-ari: if the partitions data is next to each other yes,
[08:03] <ikonia> waza-ari: deleting partition 6 will free up the space, then use a tool such as gparted to extend that partition over the now free space
[08:04] <urlin2u> waza-ari, if you installed sda7 last its grub should be in control, but if you move the front of it into the sda6 former space going left as you look at it you will probably have to reload grub in the mbr to boot it.
[08:05] <zach2825> hi
[08:05] <Palin> test
[08:05] <waza-ari> urlin2u: how can i reload grub?
[08:06] <waza-ari> i have to boot a livecd anyway since i have to unmount sda7 before deleting sda6, which is my current systems partition
[08:06] <GOMI> i get this error when i enter "make" for compiling : fatal error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[08:06] <urlin2u> waza-ari, using a live cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[08:06] <CyberWorld> waza-ari, You'll have to boot off cd to delete the partition and then reinstall grub find a tutorial on grub online google
[08:06] <GOMI> i read its now named autoconf.h and thats causes the error ??
[08:06] <BlueWolf> Hi
[08:07] <Polah> In tasksel, what does "virtual machine host" specifically install?
[08:07] <zach2825> i have a question abt compiz anyone where good with it?
[08:08] <ikonia> waza-ari: you should not need to re-install grub
[08:09] <ikonia> waza-ari: be aware that if you are using uuid's to identify your partitions you will need to change /etc/fstab with your new uuid's once the partitions are re-sized, and you'll need to run "update-grub"
[08:09] <urlin2u> ikonia, excellent point. :D
[08:10] <waza-ari> ikonia: i'm indeed using uuids... thanks for that point :)
[08:10] <wildbat> idk, why they change the UUID when resizing .... it is stupid. they could have preserved it , at least have the option to check .
[08:11] <waza-ari> i'll just give it a try as soon livecd download is complete
[08:11] <ikonia> wildbat: in essense, it's a new partition, so new uuid
[08:11] <urlin2u> wildbat, yo can just use the partiton #
[08:11] <urlin2u> you
[08:11] <BlueWolf> I have installed my laptop with Ubuntu 11.04. I installed the Updates and afew programs. I opened CompizConfig Settings Manager -  And I activated Desktop Cub and Rotate Cube. Now my laptop only shows the desktop I can't do anything. It's just a plain screen. I can move the mouse and everything. Can someone help?
[08:11] <ikonia> yes, you can still us legacy names, I often do
[08:12] <futuresoon> i did 'sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/dash' (mistake)
[08:13] <futuresoon> hasn't given me problems but is there a way to undelete this?
[08:13] <futuresoon> or at least redownload what i've overwritten from apt-get
[08:13] <wildbat> ikonia: i know but it break many ppl boot if they don't aware of that ~ and how likely ppl care a new UUID for resizing.
[08:13] <urlin2u> BlueWolf, take a look here, you can reset compiz to do it safely with compiz --reset  http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[08:14] <dragondon> greetings all!
[08:14] <penos> dragondon: hey dude hows it goin
[08:15] <urlin2u> ikonia, I have my trusty supergrub ds=isc hand =y and just boot in and reload from the desktop.
[08:15] <dragondon> well, frustrating when trying to learn on my own, but it's an experience :)  You?
[08:15] <urlin2u> disc/handy*
[08:15] <penos> dragondon: were you talking to me? well im ok i guess
[08:16] <dragondon> penos: yeah,s orry, forgot to tag your nam,e
[08:17] <dragondon> I am trying to get iptables configured right to allow remote desktop, standard port, could use some ideas on the line entry I have
[08:17] <dragondon> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 3389 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
[08:19] <dragondon> anyone?
[08:20] <wizardken_> i have a bunch of worksapces and the programs in these workspaces are getting automagically moved around to different workspaces
[08:20] <wizardken_> anyone else have this problem?
[08:20] <somsip> wizardken_: what WM?
[08:21] <wizardken_> i'm using gimp
[08:21] <wizardken_> or w/e its called
[08:21] <wizardken_> the gnu one
[08:21] <wizardken_> gnome
[08:21] <wizardken_> not gimp gnome lol
[08:21] <somsip> wizardken_: what window manager? Or are the windows only moving iwith gimp?
[08:21] <wizardken_> idk what wm comes default with 10.04
[08:21] <wizardken_> i have gnome with the metacity i think
[08:22] <somsip> wizardken_: I don't use that, but have you tried right or middle clicking the title bars and making sure they are not set as sticky to sepcific workspaces?
[08:22] <GOMI> linux config.h no such file or directory compilation terminated  <--- how to repair this
[08:22] <ikonia> GOMI: what are you trying to build ?
[08:23] <BlueWolf> urlin2u: I can't do anything. The desktop is the only thing visible. I can move the mouse, but there are no toolbars. Do you know how I can use the keyboard to open up programs?
[08:23] <wizardken_> hmm no i haven't but why would they be?
[08:23] <GOMI> ikonia, gspcav driver for webcam
[08:23] <Polah> Is VirtualBox in the repos?
[08:23] <somsip> wizardken_: using PC when drunk or stoned used to be my favourite excuse
[08:23] <ikonia> GOMI: you'll need to install the "linux-source" package (it's the kernel source package)
[08:23] <urlin2u> BlueWolf, you were in Unity?
[08:23] <ikonia> Polah: it is
[08:23] <dragondon> ok, I guess people online aren't into iptables, can anyone suggest a good channel for iptables discussion?
[08:24] <BlueWolf> urlin2u: Sorry?
[08:24] <wizardken_> somsip, it is actually set to option "only this workspace"
[08:24] <Polah> ikonia: What name is it under?
[08:24] <wizardken_> but if i move the workspace up one ... then wouldn't it change it to that workspace?
[08:24] <BlueWolf> urlin2u: Unity?
[08:24] <urlin2u> BlueWolf, did you have a panel on the left part of the screen?
[08:24] <somsip> wizardken_: honestly not sure - it's been a while since I used that. But it sounds like you might be on the right lines
[08:24] <GOMI> ikonia, linux-source pakage ?? i installed some suff from ubuntu documents about compiling
[08:24] <GOMI> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo   <-- this stuff
[08:25] <BlueWolf> urlin2u: No, all of that has gone. The side panel and the top. It's just a plain desktop.
[08:25] <ikonia> GOMI: those are the tools you need to compile, now you need the kernel source (linux-source) for your software to use it's headers
[08:26] <urlin2u> BlueWolf, (DID) you (HAVE) a panel on the left side of the screen
[08:26] <urlin2u> ?
[08:26] <jnsl_> my computer just froze and crashed, are there any error logs somewhere i can check ?
[08:26] <GOMI> ikonia, were do i get the kernel source header ??
[08:26] <ikonia> jnsl_: you could look in the syslog - however could you define the crash, did machine just hard lock ?
[08:27] <BlueWolf> urlin2u: Yes before it went funny. :D
[08:27] <ikonia> GOMI: it's in the ubuntu repos
[08:27] <Polah> ikonia: Nevermind, found it.
[08:27] <GOMI> ikonia, can i use this ,   "apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`"
[08:27] <ikonia> GOMI: that's good, that should work
[08:27] <jnsl_> ikonia just locked up an nothing worked, no key combinations or anything
[08:28] <ikonia> jnsl_: was the machine locked totally (eg: couldn't move mouse)
[08:28] <urlin2u> BlueWolf, cool just tty reboot crtl-alt-f1 then login if need then sudo reboot to the classic desktop, there you can run unity --reset or compiz --reset and get back to Unity, the Unity desktop is the one with that left panel.
[08:29] <jnsl_> i believe that was the case
[08:29] <dragondon> seriously guys, noone even replying?  wow.
[08:29] <ikonia> jnsl_: normally (this is not always - but the norm) if a machine hardlocks like that it is mostly a hardware type error,