[10:27] <ProN00b> btw, thanks whoever recommended graveman, its much better than gnomebacker shit
[10:28] <jewel_> lostbits:  What kind of data?
[10:28] <lostbits> data files
[10:28] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: it's crossoffice-... .sh , how can i run it then ?
[10:28] <lostbits> office documents and so on
[10:28] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: normally you would do   sh nameofscript.sh
[10:29] <nalioth> ProN00b: k3b beats it hands down, tho
[10:29] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: or if it's already executable,  ./nameofscript.sh
[10:29] <jewel_> lostbits: You can use dd to copy off the raw data
[10:29] <Tux> how can i set xmms as my default movie viewer?
[10:29] <azertyuuu> Th thanx
[10:29] <jewel_> lostbits: I don't know how to do anything more than that though.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: surely crossover office has instructions?
[10:29] <lostbits> jewel > yep, that would be one choice
[10:29] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  as i said, thank you for your assistance.  i was just hoping for a more fortified answer.  if you dont have a key then you dont have a key.  i dont see how they could possibly disapear only to re-appear at random intervals.  im trying to research the topic right now, but honestly i just want to find the keys so that i can install them via apt.
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Tux: xmms for movies? Why ?
[10:30] <lostbits> unfortunately gpart is not helpful ..
[10:30] <Tux> thoreauputic because its good, how do i set it default
[10:30] <Tux> thoreauputic i mean xine
[10:30] <Tux> :S
[10:30] <jewel_> lostbits: try dd'ing the whole disk and then open the raw file and see what's inside
[10:30] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: oh, you don't have keys? I ,meant that sometimes the gpg on the server is wrong
[10:31] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  hahaha
[10:31] <lostbits> jewel > i will do that, let me man dd a bit ..
[10:31] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  now we are on the same page
[10:31] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: i get this error "Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key"
[10:31] <jewel_> lostbits:  dd if=/dev/sda of=/tmp/disk.raw bs=1k
[10:31] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: erm, re you running as root?
[10:31] <jewel_> lostbits:  iirc
[10:31] <azertyuuu> yes
[10:32] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: don't
[10:32] <thoreauputic> azertyuuu: never run gnome/ X as root
[10:32] <ProN00b> azertyuuu, don't listen to them, root is aweasome skillfull ^^
[10:32] <Cryptid> !Breezy
[10:32] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:32] <Tux> thoreauputic i mean xine
[10:32] <Tux> thoreauputic because its good, how do i set it default
[10:32] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: *cough8
[10:32] <azertyuuu> thoreauputic: thanx it worked in normal user
[10:33] <azertyuuu> ProN00b: he helped me in the right way
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Tux: right click a movie file, select properties, choose xine, close
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Tux: in the file manager
[10:33] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[10:34] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  is it possible you can point me towards the keys?  i get an error on ubuntu.com official stuff.  i assume that there is only one key i need
[10:34] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: we don't encourage running as root here ;)
[10:34] <ProN00b> i know ^^
[10:34] <lostbits> jewel > how can i be sure of the block size?
[10:34] <jewel_> lostbits: You could also look at foremost (in universe)
[10:34] <jewel_> lostbits:  Doesn't matter
[10:34] <lostbits> foremost, let me look
[10:34] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: there's a command - apt-keys? Sorry I've never needed to do this so I don't know
[10:35] <crimsun> stevejesus: what are you getting error(s) on?
[10:35] <lostbits> cant find package foremost
[10:35] <Delvien> Mwahaha got limewire to work , yay !
[10:35] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  is it possible you can point me towards the keys?  i get an error on ubuntu.com official stuff.  i assume that there is only on key that i need
[10:35] <qsrv> I have a strange problem: I've installed the wpa_supplicant package and configured it. Now when I boot up, it connects to my access point, but if I boot after hibernating, it doesn't. Even restarting the daeomn doesn't help then.
[10:35] <qsrv> what could be the problem?
[10:35] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  sorry didnt mean to put all that again
[10:35] <iceman> #floo
[10:35] <ProN00b> Delvien, you are unleet unless you got it from cvs and modded it
[10:35] <iceman> #flood
[10:36] <crimsun> qsrv: you need to unload the module before you suspend, and/or you need to reload it after you resume
[10:36] <jewel_> lostbits:  It's in universe... there's some wiki page that says how to turn on universe
[10:36] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: off the top o my head, Iassume you can importkeys from the archive.ubuntu.com site
[10:36] <jewel_> !universe
[10:36] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:36] <jewel_> !repositories
[10:36] <crimsun> qsrv: I thought I said this a week or so ago...
[10:36] <wezzer> how do I block port 7302 from ubuntu?
[10:36] <zion115> can any1 tell me whats the command for looking up processes running?
[10:36] <azertyuuu> iceman: "slash"join #fleed
[10:36] <azertyuuu> iceman: "slash"join #flood
[10:36] <ProN00b> ps, zion115
[10:36] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  breezy-updates breezy-security breezy-updates
[10:36] <zion115> F A N X
[10:37] <delta> Hi.
[10:37] <emile> lostbits: if your deleted data is in ntfs format you could also look at ntfstools which has an undelete for ntfs (ntfsundelete)
[10:37] <Delvien> ProN00b only winblowz users use the work leet. crackpipe :P
[10:37] <jewel_> lostbits:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:37] <ProN00b> Delvien, i don't use windows...
[10:38] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  thats only a web directory
[10:38] <Delvien> well dont use the phrase "leet" then
[10:38] <lostbits> jewel > i believe it was the usual fat thing
[10:38] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: erm - look here for instance >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/
[10:38] <ProN00b> Delvien, leet has nothing to do with oses
[10:38] <thoreauputic> there's a gpg file there
[10:38] <Delvien> Pron00b it has something to do with stupidity though.
[10:39] <ProN00b> not really, Delvien
[10:39] <Delvien> Pren00b yeah.. really. l8ter
[10:39] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg  << same for your other ones
[10:39] <boci^> hi
[10:39] <boci^> nmap is interesting
[10:39] <lostbits> jewel > got plenty or reps actually let me check better
[10:39] <boci^> Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device
[10:39] <qsrv> crimsun: it couldn't have been me, you said this to
[10:39] <qsrv> besides
[10:39] <boci^> nmap -v localhost
[10:39] <boci^> but I don't understand why...
[10:40] <qsrv> I've tried adding ipw2200 to the modules list in /etc/default/acpi-support
[10:40] <qsrv> and it didn't help
[10:40] <ProN00b> All 1663 scanned ports on localhost.localdomain (<IP_ADDRESS>) are: closed
[10:40] <ProN00b> my system is teh win
[10:41] <crimsun> qsrv: no, unload it and reload it AFTER you resume. Manually.
[10:41] <thoreauputic> stevejesus:  man apt-key looks fairly straightforward
[10:41] <crimsun> qsrv: Does THAT work?
[10:41] <Tux> how can i set xine default ?
[10:41] <Tux> how can i set xine default ?
[10:41] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  i wonder why i could view the man page?  maybe i had typed it incorrectly.
[10:41] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  ill check my syntax
[10:41] <andi5> hi. i guess this is a faq type question, so easy exercise for you :) my fresh ubuntu likes crashing, i have a radeon card and suppose it is the frame buffer (never had problems without it). how do it disable that, do i still have some fancy at boot (;-)) and does anybody have similar experiences?
[10:42] <kevix> thoreauputic, I though you add the gpg key and apt-get update and all is well.
[10:42] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: I think I told you apt-keys - which was wrong
[10:42] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i inserted Ubuntu 5.10 cd and added the cd using synaptic and clicked on mark all upgrade and clicked on apply is this all i need to do to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[10:42] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  yep, thats what it was
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Tux: I told you how
[10:43] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  doesnt get much easier than that
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: I would be using the "smart upgrade " option
[10:44] <iceman> how do you turn on the sessions manager ....
[10:44] <thoreauputic> oh he left, I was about  to give him the wiki page...
[10:45] <nalioth> thoreauputic: lot of "ask and run" goin on today
[10:45] <kevix> iceman, when you log into gnome, it does it automatically
[10:45] <thoreauputic> nalioth: heh - it's Sunday...
[10:45] <carambol> how i enable my mike?
[10:45] <iceman> kevix i log out, and get just text screen command line ..
[10:45] <kevix> iceman, in gnome, desktop->preferene->session
[10:46] <kevix> iceman, are you at a black console?
[10:46] <bluefrog-10> I set up apt-proxy on breezy. using synaptic works (I have installed one package). Now I'd like to import the existing /var/cache/apt/archives into my /data/apt-proxy. When I do apt-proxy-import -r -i /var/cache/apt/archives it keeps telling me "no suitable backend found. What am I missing pls?
[10:47] <carambol> thoreauputic, i am in breezy, how to enable my mike?
[10:47] <iceman> kevix i know how to cheat ... ill install kde .. after kde installs it runs the tool i need
[10:47] <carambol> iam using skype
[10:47] <hit3k> Can someone please help me with my ubuntu freezing problem
[10:47] <kevix> bluefrog-10, apt-proxy requires a 'backend' I guess.
[10:47] <kevix> iceman, what? just type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[10:47] <thoreauputic> carambol: first step would be toopen the volume preferences and see if it's muted
[10:47] <iceman> i like having kde in there ...
[10:47] <bluefrog-10> apt-proxy works, just the import doen'st work
[10:48] <kevix> iceman, there is 'kubtuntu'
[10:48] <hit3k> whats xubuntu?
[10:48] <iceman> i know installing it now
[10:48] <carambol> thoreauputic, Pref > Sound
[10:48] <thoreauputic> hit3k: ubuntu with xfce4 desktop
[10:48] <crimsun> hit3k: Xfce running on Ubuntu
[10:48] <kevix> hit3k, Kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome.
[10:48] <Albaraha> !help
[10:48] <hit3k> fair enough.
[10:49] <hit3k> kevix, I know my friend uses it
[10:49] <thoreauputic> carambol: double click your volume control in gnome
[10:49] <iceman> starting a text file on commands to remember .;)
[10:49] <iceman> xubuntu is xfce4
[10:49] <thoreauputic> carambol: there's a symbol showing which channels are muted etc
[10:49] <carambol> ok
[10:49] <kevix> hit3k, ubuntu like gnome for its choice of best of breed apps. but of course, other folks thought different and made xubuntu and kubntu!
[10:50] <hit3k> kevix, they are fools
[10:50] <carambol> fixed, thoreauputic
[10:50] <kevix> hit3k, to whom do you refer?
[10:50] <carambol> tnx
[10:50] <iceman> i'm starting to learn gnome better .. just still like the configuration ability in kde better ...
[10:50] <thoreauputic> hit3k: erm, read the code of conduct please
[10:51] <thoreauputic> !coc
[10:51] <ubotu> hmm... coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[10:51] <glyn> how do I delete files from the terminal?
[10:51] <hit3k> k..
[10:51] <stevejesus> thoreauputic:  this sucks so hard
[10:51] <raphink> glyn: rm
[10:51] <thoreauputic> hit3k: calling people fools for their desktop preferences is not acceptable
[10:51] <kevix> glyn, 'rm ' but remeber its more or less perenent. double check the command before you destroy!
[10:52] <hit3k> thoreauputic, wont happen again
[10:52] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:52] <zion115> any1 know of a movie player for linux that can play .avi's and .mov's?
[10:52] <iceman> theres a command for fps when you run glxgears ? but i cant remember it
[10:52] <prasys> zion115 : umm ..ubuntu wiki
[10:52] <raphink> agreed thoreauputic
[10:52] <prasys> there is a cute how-to-do guide there
[10:52] <bluefrog-10> glxgears -printfps
[10:52] <zion115> in synnaptic?
[10:52] <stevejesus> thats it.  i am setting my flipping computer on fire
[10:53] <raphink> zion115: it's not a matter of a movie player
[10:53] <Kinomees> :D
[10:53] <Noata> how can i make it so X doesn't start at boot time.
[10:53] <raphink> it's a matter of installing the codecs
[10:53] <zion115> ?
[10:53] <hit3k> stevejesus, Why?
[10:53] <iceman> that was it .. thanks
[10:53] <raphink> zion115: you have to install the codecs in order to play these movies
[10:53] <raphink> whatever player you use
[10:53] <bil> I need lots of help
[10:53] <zion115> oh ok
[10:53] <raphink> !codecs
[10:53] <ubotu> codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <zion115> FANX
[10:53] <dimm> crimsun: I've just tired
[10:53] <iceman> 10000 average .... for a 5500 nvidia .. that good i wonder ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: won't it let you install ? Usually you just get a warning you can ignore with gpg mismatches
[10:54] <kevix> hit3k, as some folks may or maynot know: ubuntu is a bantu? word that means 'humanity towards others'. so folks try to keep the ubuntu spirit.
[10:54] <dimm> reloading the module does not help
[10:54] <raphink> :)
[10:54] <raphink> bil: about what?
[10:54] <hit3k> kevix, Yeah.
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  no warning.  nothing.
[10:54] <iceman> there a way to find a good fps rate ...
[10:54] <dimm> *tried
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  when i go to import a keys it hangs.
[10:54] <iceman> i get 10000+ average ...
[10:54] <kevix> iceman, so how does the iceman cometh?
[10:54] <hit3k> But my installation doesnt like my computer and keeps freezing for no reason
[10:54] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  when i go to import a key via a url in laughs at me
[10:54] <andi5> Noata: one way would be to rename a file in /etc/rcx.d/Syygdm to syygdm, but i would like to hear a better way too :)
[10:55] <crimsun> dimm: and what does dmesg|tail say?
[10:55] <iceman> kevix installing kubuntu-desktop ...
[10:55] <hit3k> So I'm not very loveable at the moment
[10:55] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  there is absolutely nothing wrong with my syntax
[10:55] <kevix> iceman, hehe!
[10:55] <crimsun> stevejesus: what syntax are you using?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: have you tried using a different /etc/apt/sources.list ? Like the one in the ubotu factoid?
[10:55] <iceman> kevix 24% slow process ...
[10:56] <Noata> if already at runlevel 2, how do i stop X from starting at boot
[10:56] <bil> oh sorry, nearly didnt see your reply
[10:56] <kevix> iceman, it you get a change, install trackballs (it is based on 'marble madness')
[10:56] <stevejesus> thoraeuputic:  factoid?
[10:56] <lostbits> anyone would know how to get useful infos from a dd raw file ?
[10:56] <bil> Firstly, first time linux and a fresh install on a new box. I can't seem to run the update manager, nor most of the system tools
[10:56] <kevix> Noata, runlevel 2,3,4,5 are the same.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Noata:  quick and dirty way is   echo false | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:56] <ptlo> lostbits, what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:57] <iceman> kevix next i install wine .9 new version and then Diablo II ... has been great on linux ....
[10:57] <ptlo> lostbits, (or was that 'hdd raw file')
[10:57] <lostbits> ptlo > recover data from an accidentally formatted flash disk
[10:57] <rob_p> lostbits:  For text, I'd use strings and grep.
[10:57] <kevix> iceman, I guess I'm oldskool
[10:57] <raphink> bil you mean you can't launch synaptic?
[10:57] <hit3k> I cant believe I'm still running hoary hedgehog.
[10:57] <ptlo> lostbits, auch
[10:57] <iceman> kevix i like the multiplayers ... wish there were something close for linux
[10:58] <lostbits> ptlo > not my fault man, trying to fix a friend's fault :D
[10:58] <bil> in the system tray, it tell me I have 14 new updates and prompts for a password. i try to put in the root password and it won't accept it. i put in my user password and nothing hapens. i can't view, install or put in a password again until i reboot
[10:58] <dimm> crimsun: the logs seems fine
[10:58] <kevix> iceman, wesnoth ?
[10:58] <crimsun> dimm: "fine" being...?
[10:58] <Madpilot> bil: not the root pw - there is no such thing. use your own user pw
[10:58] <lostbits> ptlo > during windows xp installation he accidentally chose the flashdisk as target disk
[10:58] <raphink> bil: it's your normal passwd, not the root one
[10:58] <dimm> all it says is the car was detected
[10:58] <Madpilot> !tell bil about sudo
[10:58] <dimm> *card
[10:58] <crimsun> dimm: nothing about firmware error?
[10:58] <bil> read the rest, i did
[10:58] <bil> user users pw
[10:59] <thoreauputic> bil: it doesn't want your root password, it wants your user password
[10:59] <dimm> crimsun: nope
[10:59] <bil>  i put in my user password and nothing hapens. i can't view, install or put in a password again until i reboot
[10:59] <crimsun> dimm: on Breezy?
[10:59] <dimm> yes
[10:59] <ptlo> lostbits heh :D if you know what file system was on the flash disk (ext3 perhaps?), google for recovery tools for that filesystem....
[10:59] <thoreauputic> bil: is this your first user or a new one?
[10:59] <iceman> kevix interesting ...
[10:59] <kevix> bil, in Ubuntu, there is no 'root' password. there is only the user's password.
[10:59] <bil> first and only
[10:59] <crimsun> dimm: ipw2200 works fine here
[10:59] <lostbits> ptlo > :D thats what i have been up to the last few hours man :D
[10:59] <raphink> kevix: depends if you did a normal or a root install
[11:00] <crimsun> dimm: is ipw2200 sharing its irq?
[11:00] <lostbits> ptlo > i guess system is vfat
[11:00] <crimsun> well, technially the 2195 or whatever
[11:00] <kevix> raphink, I mean that most folks are told to 'sudo' this and that.
[11:00] <lostbits> ptlo > gpart is not useful
[11:00] <raphink> yes kevix
[11:00] <bil> Plenty of other things just don't run as well
[11:00] <bil> Login Screen Setup
[11:00] <bil> Users and Groups
[11:00] <kevix> raphink, you can just 'sudo xterm' and root away!
[11:00] <raphink> sure
[11:01] <dimm> crimsun: how should I see if it is sharing its irq?
[11:01] <raphink> bil: all these things require your passwd
[11:01] <iceman> kevix bookmarked that page ... more like warcraft though i looks like
[11:01] <crimsun> dimm: the contents of /proc/interrupts
[11:01] <ptlo> lostbits, isn't gpart just for partitioning? btw if it's dos/windows fs  (fat, ntfs) what you're dealing with, i believe you'd have better luck if you tyr to find utilities for dos or windows to try to repair it
[11:01] <dimm> it does not seem to be
[11:01] <bil> raphink: it seems that once i give it my passwd, nothing happens
[11:01] <iceman> you would think someone would have written a rpg like diablo for linux ?
[11:02] <dimm> crimsun: it is using the 21 alone
[11:02] <iceman> lots of fps's "America's army ... Enemy Terratory ... " but few rpg's
[11:02] <bil> raphink: obviously i've managed to run other, non-sys type apps (like X Chat)
[11:02] <smi|e> hi
[11:02] <smi|e> can i install KDE On ubuntu
[11:03] <raphink> sureyou can smi|e
[11:03] <raphink> bil: do you know how to use a console?
[11:03] <smi|e> raphink: will gnome automatically be deleted then
[11:03] <deFrysk> smi|e, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <raphink> nope
[11:03] <iceman> kevix i also made a special backup of my original xorg.conf file ... the original one ... ;)
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: you can have as many DM/WM as you want
[11:03] <bil> raphink: yep, sure do
[11:03] <raphink> and switch between them
[11:03] <ceLesTiaL_aNgeL> smi|e, it's called kubuntu
[11:03] <smi|e> raphink: so how do i choose whether i want kde or gnome?
[11:03] <smi|e> is there a menu
[11:03] <smi|e> or...
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: when you log in, you can choose your DM/WM
[11:03] <raphink> smi|e: /join #kubuntu
[11:04] <thoreauputic> smi|e: in the login screen, click sessions
[11:04] <orbishek> guys i'm new to linux ,i just wanna know how to access the files in  my windows partitions via linux
[11:04] <raphink> bil: open a console and type `sudo synaptic'
[11:04] <andi5> can anybody tell me how to disable the framebuffer?
[11:04] <smi|e> how long would it take on DSL too install kde
[11:04] <raphink> then enter your USER passwd
[11:04] <smi|e> ?
[11:04] <deFrysk> smi|e, you can install kdm and make it default, works better with kde
[11:04] <raphink> depends what speed you have on your DSL smi|e
[11:04] <smi|e> 1mb
[11:04] <bil> raphink: k, it wants my root or user pwd?
[11:04] <thoreauputic> smi|e: it will be in the region of 130MB
[11:04] <raphink> USER bil
[11:04] <smi|e> thoreauputic: so on dsl about one hour? or more
[11:04] <raphink> bil: forget you have a root passwd if you ever have one
[11:04] <raphink> you never need it
[11:05] <bil> okay dokey
[11:05] <kevix> iceman, that's the idea. always have a backup. I put some files on my website as backup. sometime I email files to me as a fast backup.
[11:05] <raphink> bil: did you make an expert install?
[11:05] <bil> well, i ran it, and i put in my pwd, and im back at the prompt
[11:05] <bil> yep
[11:05] <thoreauputic> smi|e: I have no idea - depends what download speeds you get I guess
[11:05] <raphink> ic
[11:05] <raphink> bil you need to setup sudo
[11:05] <raphink> in order to use it
[11:05] <raphink> that's your pb
[11:05] <smi|e> thoreauputic:  what was the command again
[11:05] <bil> okay dokay
[11:05] <smi|e> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <smi|e> ?
[11:05] <deFrysk> yup
[11:05] <raphink> bil: type `su' to become root
[11:05] <thoreauputic> smi|e:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:06] <iceman> kevix ... got to get my lasar printer install in linux .. then i'll start printing howto's ... for study ..
[11:06] <raphink> and then : `nano /etc/sudoers'
[11:06] <bil> done
[11:06] <deFrysk> and sudo apt-get install kdm and set it as default
[11:06] <raphink> that will edit your sudo file
[11:06] <raphink> that must contain the following line in the end :
[11:06] <bil> yep, its open
[11:06] <raphink> # User privilege specification
[11:06] <raphink> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:06] <raphink> right?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> raphink: he should use the "visudo" command actually
[11:06] <iceman> kevix i have played and toyed with linux since about redhat 5.2 ... i actualy got redhat 5.2 installed and kde to run on it ...
[11:06] <raphink> thoreauputic: well it's the same, nevermind
[11:06] <orbishek> guys can anybody help
[11:07] <bil> raphink: it does
[11:07] <raphink> bil after this line
[11:07] <deFrysk> smi|e, also there is a #kubuntu channel for ubuntupeople who use kde
[11:07] <thoreauputic> raphink: it is, but visudo checks for errors
[11:07] <raphink> add a line with your name
[11:07] <kevix> iceman, yikes. It was a BIT harder back them!
[11:07] <raphink> ok thoreauputic then explain... I've never used visudo
[11:07] <raphink> bil: add a line with your user name and the same options
[11:07] <bil> okay
[11:07] <orbishek> does ubuntu run on amd sempron
[11:07] <raphink> so if your user name is bil for ex
[11:07] <raphink> you shall ad
[11:08] <thoreauputic> raphink: well, if you make a syntax error the visudo wrapper warns you
[11:08] <raphink> bil   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:08] <bil> okay
[11:08] <iceman> kevix then went to mandrake .. and have used suse .. mandrake ... redhat .. but for simplicity i like ubuntu ...
[11:08] <robotgeek> man sudo says u shud use visudo, so i will use visudo
[11:08] <crimsun> dimm: is this occuring with WEP, WPA, or an open net?
[11:08] <stevejesus> orbishek:  yes it does.  sempron is an x86 proc.
[11:08] <bil> done
[11:08] <kevix> raphink, which version have this 'root' install option? (I assume it doesnt have the 'sudo' thing as warty did?)
[11:08] <raphink> bil: then exit nano with ^X
[11:08] <orbishek> thnks  steve
[11:08] <bil> yep ive used pico before
[11:08] <thoreauputic> confusingly, visudo uses nano (the default editor)
[11:08] <orbishek> one more question
[11:08] <stevejesus> orbishek:  yw
[11:09] <raphink> kevix: breezy in expert mode :p
[11:09] <smi|e> is there ssl on this server?
[11:09] <smi|e> :?
[11:09] <iceman> kevix ... have wanted to make my own install ... based on "zipslack" on a dos based harddrive... with full kde support ...
[11:09] <kevix> raphink, ok. thanks.
[11:09] <deFrysk> orbishek, after install you can download linux-k7 , a kernel to match your proc
[11:09] <lostbits> ptlo > gpat fixes also ntfs and fat partitions, thats how i recoverd my hdd some time ago
[11:09] <kevix> iceman, I tried zipslack once!
[11:09] <deFrysk> orbishek, apt-get it even
[11:09] <raphink> bil: you're done?
[11:09] <smi|e> deFrysk: is there ssl on freenode?
[11:09] <orbishek> how do i access the files on my windows partition via linux
[11:09] <bil> raphink: yeah
[11:10] <kevix> orbishek, carefull!
[11:10] <raphink> bil: then you can launch synaptic from the menu
[11:10] <orbishek> what's apt-get and linux-k7
[11:10] <iceman> kevix zipslak alone sucks ... unless you can figure out how to install "x" ... and then KDE ...
[11:10] <raphink> and enter your USER passwd
[11:10] <raphink> should work now
[11:10] <smi|e> ubotu tell orbishek about apt-get
[11:10] <deFrysk> smi|e, I know nothing of ssl , never used/tried it
[11:10] <smi|e> deFrysk: ok
[11:10] <smi|e> bbl all
[11:10] <smi|e> tc
[11:10] <bil> raphink: cool, thanks
[11:10] <kevix> orbishek, msdos or vfat file systems are safe, but nfts are not.
[11:10] <smi|e> im off too do some work :/
[11:11] <bil> raphink: yeah, that's done it. thanks a million
[11:11] <Matti> Sorry for such a noob question. I'm thinking of downloading breezy badger from ubuntulinux.org, thet say that I should download using bittorrent if possible... Only problem is taht I can't find link to torrent file :)
[11:11] <iceman> kevix i know dos well ... why i want a linux install from a dos base ... and still have the "linux" stability ...
[11:11] <deFrysk> orbishek, linux-k7 is a kernel witch is konfigged for amd-xp sempron processors
[11:11] <kevix> iceman, it was novel at the time. and it was a bit easier to just 'unzip...' and go.
[11:12] <iceman> kevix i got to study up on networking between a "Linux system" and a windows System ...
[11:12] <kevix> iceman, ever since I saw knoppix.... I've been running Debian. and then some of the Debian folks made Ubuntu.
[11:12] <glyn> how do I "extract" a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:12] <propagandhi> Matti: http://www.tuxwarez.com has a torrent
[11:12] <bil> bil: i haven't used irc before, does this even work?
[11:13] <rubik> hi
[11:13] <Matti> propagandhi, ok, thanks
[11:13] <bil> or is the red private messages?
[11:13] <ProN00b> tuxwarez, lol
[11:13] <propagandhi> bil: your using it now so it must work
[11:13] <ProN00b> whats that
[11:13] <rubik> i think my question is a lil bit nerd but.. i installed ubuntu and i dont know my root pwd ... there is a default one??
[11:13] <raphink> bil: you have to register on the network in order to post PMs
[11:13] <iceman> kevix I like Knoppix-cluster distro ... that is a great drop and go cluster platform idea ..
[11:13] <propagandhi> ProN00B: why dont u look and then you will know
[11:13] <bil> thanks, but i meant for the red text. is it just the username: ?
[11:13] <eroFrai> rubik, no password
[11:13] <thoreauputic> !tell rubik about root
[11:14] <lostbits> ptlo > ?irc
[11:14] <bil> or is it X-Chats fault?
[11:14] <Matti> bil, I think every line where your nick is mentioned becomes red
[11:14] <rubik> no pwd ?
[11:14] <glyn> how do I move the files in a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:14] <robotgeek> iceman: rocks cluster is also nice, but it's based on redhat
[11:14] <raphink> bil:  the red text depends on your client and its settings
[11:14] <bil> ah!
[11:14] <rubik> !tell rubik about root
[11:14] <bil> it is matti, thanks!
[11:14] <raphink> most of the time, it's set to be red when your name is said
[11:14] <bil> cool, thanks all;
[11:14] <kevix> iceman, there are literally about 100 version of knoppix.... quantian,morphix,dynebolic...
[11:14] <rubik> thanks a lot =)
[11:14] <rubik> bb
[11:14] <Coweater> rubik: you can msg the bot
[11:14] <iceman> robotgeek have to look at it ... i got a copy of geowulf clust laying someplace ..
[11:14] <eroFrai> rubik, when u need root privilege, use sudo and your user password
[11:15] <rubik> okay thanks!!
[11:15] <glyn> how do I move the files in a directory into another directory so I just move the files and not the folder too?
[11:15] <iceman> kevix how UBUNTU took off like it has .. i am impressed ...
[11:15] <kevix> robotgeek, I recall cluster-knoppix.
[11:15] <ompaul> !tell rubik about msg the bot
[11:15] <glyn> or do I have to do it manually one by one?
[11:16] <kevix> iceman, it was one man's vision , a WHOLE lot of money and debian developers hard at work....
[11:16] <raphink> glyn: you never had to do anything manually one by one
[11:16] <propagandhi> ubuntu did what debian failed to do
[11:16] <iceman> kevix well 84% of kubuntu downloaded ... ;)
[11:16] <robotgeek> kevix: very well supported clusterinf linux. pretty nice. seen it in action. easy to install too
[11:16] <raphink> what exactly do you want to do glyn ?
[11:16] <glyn> raphink:How do I copy all the files in a directory to another directory, then?
[11:16] <ompaul> cd folder; cp * ~myhome/otherplace/.
[11:16] <kevix> propagandhi, that is very inaccurate!
[11:16] <eroFrai> glyn, cd into the source directory, use cp -R * destination_dir/
[11:16] <propagandhi> kevix: and how so
[11:17] <raphink> glyn: cp path/to/your/dir/* path/to/the/other/dir
[11:17] <deFrysk> glyn, use *.* for all files
[11:17] <iceman> kevix I have liked Linux's Crisp gui, and Displays ... those made me a long time follower ...
[11:17] <kevix> propagandhi, where would ubuntu be with out Debian?
[11:17] <propagandhi> thats not what i said
[11:17] <deFrysk> Or *
[11:17] <bil> Since I'm new to the linux and ubuntu thing, is the standard to download source files and compile them?
[11:17] <propagandhi> I said it did what debian failed to do, not that it would exist without debian
[11:17] <ompaul> propagandhi, kevix can you take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:17] <kevix> propagandhi, and does Debian have a zillion dollars...
[11:18] <nalioth>      bil the standard is to use apt-get or a frontend of it
[11:18] <deFrysk> bil, standard is to get the binaries with apt-get
[11:18] <thoreauputic> bil: no, use the repos if possible - much easier
[11:18] <nalioth> bil: if you wish to d/l and compile, use gentoo linux
[11:18] <iceman> kevix  i miss loki software , there games installed so smooth ... click and go, why "linux" has not growen to a script based install i fail to understand ...
[11:18] <bil> okay. sorry, i should have remembered. it didn't run before but it will now :P
[11:18] <ph8> Hey all, I switched from Kde to gnome yesterday, finally got xine working instead of the totem (:s) and now I've installed amarok, I've just watched a movie with sound - no problems but now i want to listen to some music and I can't get any sound? Is it something simple?
[11:18] <IanDoh> can someone help me
[11:18] <nalioth> IanDoh: if you ask a question
[11:19] <deFrysk> ph8, set the engine of amarok to esd
[11:19] <IanDoh> well i installed your linux
[11:19] <IanDoh> it installed
[11:19] <IanDoh> then booted from GRUB
[11:19] <IanDoh> then i cant do anything
[11:19] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: did you mean set the engine to xine ?
[11:19] <IanDoh> the config says the CD isn't linux
[11:19] <kevix> iceman, well the current version of debian-install (used in Ubuntu) as something called pre-seeding so that you can choose what to install and then go.
[11:20] <nalioth> IanDoh: you installed and then the machine restarted?
[11:20] <ph8> no effect deFrysk, but now i can't even get sound on the movie i just played so maybe it was the amarok install that's cocked something up?
[11:20] <IanDoh> yes
[11:20] <IanDoh> then bash loaded
[11:20] <IanDoh> then i cant get anywhere from there
[11:20] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, yes that one to , I just saw the "amarok" word
[11:20] <iceman> kevix no .. like lokis games .. you could click the install icon and the game was installd ... simple ... "like winblows "
[11:20] <ph8> engine is xine also
[11:20] <ph8> nothing appears to be making sound now
[11:21] <kevix> iceman, well apt-get or synaptic are the closed i guess.
[11:21] <ompaul> IanDoh, bash loaded, as single user or what? did you have to log in?
[11:21] <IanDoh> yes
[11:21] <surface> someone help me
[11:21] <IanDoh> i logged in
[11:21] <iceman> kevix back in a few .. 99 % of kubuntu done
[11:21] <ph8> any other ideas?
[11:21] <surface> after i upgrade to new ubuntu
[11:21] <ph8> surface: We have you know what your problem is..
[11:21] <thoreauputic> !tell surface about ask
[11:21] <ompaul> IanDoh, is bash responsive?
[11:21] <robotgeek> surface: it would be more helpful to state ur problem
[11:21] <IanDoh> yes
[11:21] <IanDoh> startx dont work
[11:21] <surface> when login screen appear
[11:22] <surface> it complain that configuration error
[11:22] <kevix> IanDoh, did it ever work?
[11:22] <ompaul> kevix, he gond
[11:22] <surface> ask to u change the configuration file
[11:22] <deFrysk> ph8,  open gnome-volume-control and see if you need to open/unmute some channels
[11:22] <surface> i donno what file to change
[11:22] <kevix> ompaul, k
[11:22] <ompaul> kevix, he back :)
[11:22] <ph8> nope, looks good deFrysk
[11:22] <ompaul> IanDoh, what kind of video card have you got?
[11:22] <surface> i try to play around the login screen setting its not working
[11:23] <betims> how to set root passwd ?
[11:23] <IanDoh> Matrox G2000
[11:23] <ph8> betims: sudo passwd root
[11:23] <surface> my login theme its not working
[11:23] <azertyuuu> hey all, i installed crossover office , but what's the location to run this app
[11:23] <ph8> I might try a reboot guys, always seems to fix things in windows - you think?
[11:23] <robotgeek>   <keybind key="A-F10">
[11:23] <robotgeek>     <action name="togglefullscreen"/>
[11:23] <robotgeek>   </keybind>
[11:23] <surface> no matter what i choose the theme at login screen setup
[11:23] <iceman> ok.. link to the java howto ?
[11:23] <ompaul> IanDoh, try running this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[11:23] <betims> ph8: it asks me for a passwd ?
[11:23] <ph8> there was meant to be a sarcastic smiley there ;)
[11:23] <orbishek> i'm back ,anyway what was that linux 7k or something
[11:23] <kevix> ompaul, would it be good to have official ubuntu folks have a nick name convention? ompaul-ubuntu
[11:23] <robotgeek> sorry for the paste!
[11:23] <ph8> betims: that will be your password
[11:24] <ph8> type man sudo
[11:24] <ompaul> kevix, it would but hey I ain't one of them
[11:24] <surface> its appears the same error
[11:24] <ph8> sudo allows you to execute commands as the root user and you will only need to provide your password
[11:24] <RancidLM> does any one know the command line needed to get grub booting the ubuntu installer ?
[11:24] <ph8> in ubuntu it's preferred to su'ing to root for many things
[11:24] <kevix> ompaul, k
[11:24] <ompaul> kevix, :-)
[11:24] <bil> Synaptic is pretty sweet. Just thought I'd throw that out there :P
[11:24] <IanDoh> anyone know whats up with my problem then
[11:24] <thoreauputic> kevix: members can get an "ubuntu" cloak
[11:25] <ompaul> IanDoh, did you run the command I just gave you>
[11:25] <IanDoh> what command?
[11:25] <ompaul> IanDoh, try running this>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[11:25] <Nei> is it normal that the fglrx driver in the package manager does not work?
[11:25] <Nei> I followed every guide I found on the net but I can't get it to work :((
[11:25] <IanDoh> nope
[11:25] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[11:25] <ubotu> doesn't work is probably something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[11:25] <surface> u guys know what conf file should i edit for login screen setting?
[11:25] <IanDoh> says Unreconized Command
[11:26] <Madpilot> Nei: did you follow the Ubuntu wiki's ATI page?
[11:26] <kevix> Nei, does it produce any error messages?
[11:26] <deFrysk> ph8 test your sound on gstreamer-properties and see if its all set properly
[11:26] <ompaul> IanDoh, then I guess your install is not complete have you removed the CD?
[11:26] <IanDoh> no
[11:26] <IanDoh> the config says its not a linux Cd
[11:27] <kevix> surface, you can go to the gdm login screen and edit stuff there.
[11:27] <ubuntu> hw to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[11:27] <irvin> where can i find the logs of pppd?
[11:27] <IanDoh> THERE IS GAIM
[11:27] <IanDoh> TARD~
[11:27] <ompaul> IanDoh, that error I have seen once - and only once - what version is that CD?
[11:27] <irvin> i can't see it in /var/log
[11:27] <deFrysk> ubuntu, gain wors better an can do the yahoo protocol for you
[11:27] <kevix> ubuntu, sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:27] <deFrysk> works*
[11:27] <IanDoh> v 5.04
[11:27] <kevix> irvin, all logs are in /var/log
[11:27] <deFrysk> geez all those typo's :s
[11:28] <ompaul> IanDoh, be better if you did 5.10 the new as of a couple of weeks ago
[11:28] <IanDoh> well im waiting for my cds then
[11:28] <irvin> all i can see is ppp-connect-errors
[11:28] <ompaul> IanDoh, the disk you have if I am correct is actually a hoary colony cd not the actual haory release
[11:29] <nkrz2> hi all I need an information: how can I run VLC player on ubuntu?
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, I may not be
[11:29] <IanDoh> i dont know
[11:29] <kevix> irvin, that is one. there may be some in /var/log/messages.
[11:29] <IanDoh> i got it posted to me
[11:29] <Nei> Madpilot, I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, how long ago?
[11:29] <ompaul> IanDoh, or by whom?
[11:29] <Nei> kevix, I get an error saying 'Operation not permitted' when I try to load the kernel module
[11:30] <ompaul> IanDoh, got broadband?
[11:30] <rubik> hi!
[11:30] <kevix> Nei, what command did you use?
[11:30] <Madpilot> Nei: including the part about changing the configs with X shut down? I had to do that to get my ATI 9600XT's 3d running in Breezy, but now it works flawlessly.
[11:30] <IanDoh> no
[11:30] <Nei> kevix, my Xorg.0.log says
[11:30] <Nei> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[11:30] <Nei> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[11:30] <IanDoh> i got it posted by ur posting thing
[11:30] <IanDoh> i mean
[11:30] <bil> okay, i pulled a package (TightVNC) with Synaptic, how do i run/access it?
[11:30] <IanDoh> ubuntus thing
[11:31] <bil> its in my installed list
[11:31] <Nei> Madpilot, yes I have the fglrx driver in my xorg.conf and as you can see it also tries to load up
[11:31] <rubik> ive just installed new ubuntu now, and after realising the base sys doesnt come with gcc, i installed it cuz i need to ./configure sth, but it says my C compiler cannot create executables... can anybody help me plz thanks!
[11:31] <kevix> Nei, ok. you have a kernel/driver version error. how did you install the video driver?
[11:31] <nalioth> rubik: install "build-essential"
[11:31] <rubik> tttttttthanks!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> rubik: install the build-essential package
[11:31] <IanDoh> will i get v 5.10 in the post?
[11:31] <rubik> go try
[11:31] <deFrysk> rubik, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:32] <smi|e> Who owns ubotu?
[11:32] <Nei> kevix, I installed xorg-driver-fglrx and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:32] <rubik> =****
[11:32] <thoreauputic> !who own you
[11:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, thoreauputic
[11:32] <nkrz2> hi all I need an information: how can I run VLC player on ubuntu?
[11:32] <ompaul> IanDoh, okay I was talking to Linux Format lin the last couple of weeks, they will have on the CD version of the magazine a copy of 5.10 due out 14th of Nov
[11:32] <thoreauputic> hmm
[11:32] <ompaul> oh
[11:32] <kevix> smi|e, its a bot.
[11:32] <deFrysk> nkrz2, sudo apt-get install vlc-gnome
[11:32] <surface> "configuration is not correct" error msg when i login
[11:32] <thoreauputic> smi|e:  it's cafuego's bot
[11:32] <surface> how to solve?
[11:32] <nkrz2> thanx
[11:33] <mifritscher> hi, what should I use: ubuntu + kde or kubuntu? I've already experience with debian
[11:33] <kevix> Nei, hmm. dont know that sutff. need a true ubuntuite.
[11:33] <robotgeek> mifritscher: you shud be fine with ubuntu
[11:33] <mifritscher> ok, thanks
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : is linux format available in south-africa? why not dvd with amd64 5.10?
[11:33] <Madpilot> Nei: you've done the whole reconfiguration with X shut down?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> !info vlc
[11:33] <deFrysk> mifritscher, if you like kde I would download kubuntu
[11:33] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[11:33] <Nei> kevix, :( thanks for trying to help
[11:33] <kevix> Nei, are you sure the instruction where for YOUR version of ubuntu?
[11:33] <Nei> Madpilot, yes I've done that, stopped gdm and all
[11:34] <Nei> kevix, the wiki only has instructions for 5.04
[11:34] <thoreauputic> nkrz2: you need the universe repo - then just install vlc and it should be in your menu
[11:34] <ompaul> lsuactiafner, (a) I don't know (b) the dvd version is going to be something else
[11:34] <Nei> kevix, but all the packages are there so one would assume the packages should work, in 5.10
[11:34] <kevix> lsuactiafner, Ubuntu was born in south africa. go to the web site. you can order cd's for free.
[11:34] <hit3k> Its official ladies and gentlemen Its either my  hardware or my installation that doesnt like me
[11:35] <kevix> Nei, seems not?!
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> kevix : yeh but it takes around 3 months to reach me via ship from netherlands..
[11:35] <betim> I want to use SU instead of sudo, how to set a root paswd ?
[11:36] <Nei> kevix, possible, but that is still throwing a rather weak picture at ubuntu
[11:36] <Madpilot> kevix: those instructions worked for me in Breezy...
[11:36] <mjr> betim, sudo passwd root
[11:36] <kevix> lsuactiafner, there is suppose to be somekind of vending machine in SA. That's what the offical press says.
[11:36] <Nei> Madpilot, what kernel are you using?
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> betim : get a root terminal as root, then passwd
[11:36] <rubik> at the end of the ./configure i have the error Unable to find libncurses or libcurses, but i already installed the last version, anybody know what can happen? thanks
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> run passwd..
[11:36] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: yeah, freedom cd's or somwthing like that
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> kevix : not one i know of
[11:36] <kevix> Madpilot, ok. thats for the update.
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> prolly in some major city only
[11:36] <robotgeek> rubik: what are you trying to install
[11:37] <rubik> kismet
[11:37] <bil> never mind, i figured it out
[11:37] <betim> lsuactiafner: I can't get root terminal
[11:37] <Madpilot> Nei: 2.6.12-9-k7
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: any complaints when you are compiling are for the -dev pkgs
[11:37] <rubik> oh really ?
[11:37] <Revellion> rubik: indeed
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: you are compiling, not using
[11:37] <rubik> then i have to install the -dev files of ncurses ?
[11:37] <nalioth> rubik: correct
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> betim : i dont know gnome menus but it should be there somewhere.. else just get a terminal and run sudo passwd maybe?
[11:37] <Nei> Madpilot, I'm using 386 maybe they only ship working packages with k7
[11:37] <rubik> oh kk
[11:37] <rubik> ill try
[11:37] <rubik> thanks!
[11:37] <thoreauputic> betim: if you must, you can set a root passwd - but   sudo -i  will do the same thing
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:38] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[11:38] <nkrz2> must I download the universe repo or it's just included? if yes how can I activate it?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> betim:  sudo -i  gives you a root shell
[11:38] <kevix> robotgeek, you beat me to it!
[11:38] <Nei> I have another problem, when I try to set the COMPOSE KEY (Multi_key) in my Keyboard settings, Ubuntu goes havoc
[11:38] <betim> ok, I figured out :D
[11:38] <robotgeek> kevix: :)
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> i want to steal myself a freedomtoaster and blame the previous governemnt
[11:38] <Nei> would anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> !tell nkrz2 about repos
[11:38] <rubik> it worked well !! thanks guys =)******
[11:39] <rubik> sh4?
[11:39] <rubik> eres david ? xD
[11:39] <robotgeek> kevix: having been to the site before helps :)
[11:39] <dotrig> xmms sound dosent works have do sudo apt-get install xmms-*
[11:39] <sH4> rubik , Hi , why ?
[11:39] <robotgeek> dotrig: try changing the output plugin
[11:39] <Madpilot> Nei: no idea about kernel vs graphics... sorry. You might want to check out the Ubuntu forums, though
[11:39] <rubik> oh oops sorry i thought u were a friend
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> there IS one in my town
[11:40] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: neat! go burn your own latest and greatest now :)
[11:40] <deFrysk> dotrig, make sure to set the uotput of xmms to esd in gnome and to arts in kde
[11:40] <WebLOCH> Hey guys
[11:40] <deFrysk> output*
[11:40] <kevix> lsuactiafner, its is in    * Bloemfontein Durban  Cape Town Diepkloof East London Grahamstown Johannesburg Knysna Namibia Pietermaritzburg  Port Elizabeth Port Shepstone Potchefstroom Pretoria Stellenbosch
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> robotgeek : already running it
[11:41] <betim> hmm, anybody uses compaq armada here?
[11:41] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know why its impossible to move any subset of the mozilla suite, without removing the whole damn thing ?
[11:41] <robotgeek> lsuactiafner: heh :)
[11:41] <highvoltage> WebLOCH: because it is one big thing
[11:41] <kevix> WebLOCH, that is why folks install mozilla-firefox and not the mozilla-suite
[11:41] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, very big thing
[11:41] <Nei> Madpilot, how would I go about switching the kernel? I'm a bit new in that biz
[11:41] <WebLOCH> highvoltage, well i know there are a lot of inter-used components and libraries, but i dont understand why I need firefox if I wanted to use epiphany
[11:41] <dotrig> no output there :(
[11:42] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, thats a gnome decision to use firefox and not mozilla
[11:42] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> Hello, i have 5.10 ubuntu And i can hear all sounds in same time. How can i do it ?
[11:42] <WildZeck> WebLOCH, dpkg -r --forcenodeps mozzilla-firefox ? somethinf like that
[11:42] <thoreauputic> WebLOCH: they both rely on the gecko engine
[11:42] <nalioth> WebLOCH: cuz it has the gecko engine in it
[11:42] <dooglus> does ubuntu support reiser4 partitions?
[11:42] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, ahh fair enough
[11:42] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> sorry .
[11:42] <robotgeek> dotrig: AFAIK, yes.
[11:42] <robotgeek> dotrig: sorry, tab completion error
[11:42] <dooglus> I've been able to "mkfs -t reiser4", but then how do I mount it?
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> least there is a toaster close by to steal
[11:43] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> Hello, i have 5.10 ubuntu And I can't hear all sounds in same time. How can i do it ? (i correct can to can't don't repeat more)
[11:43] <highvoltage> lsuactiafner: toaster?
[11:43] <WebLOCH> thoreauputic, nalioth I realise that and said pretty much that, the point is, Gecko engine is a shared component, that doesnt mean you should have to have one browser installed to use another, its the component that needs to be there
[11:43] <dotrig> Dosent see one output..
[11:43] <rubik> hello, do u know how can i change my framebuffer resolution to a higher one ??
[11:43] <kevix> highvoltage, freedom toaster.
[11:43] <thoreauputic> dooglus: you entered a bug about apt-cache failing, network issues etc, right ?
[11:43] <highvoltage> kevix: cool. you in .za?
[11:43] <azertyuuu> hey all , how can i play .wmv-files (with kafeinne)
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> not just any toaster
[11:43] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I raised hundreds of bugs :)
[11:43] <nalioth> WebLOCH: it's not just a ubuntu decision, i believe you need mozilla code to even compile epiphany from source
[11:44] <dooglus> thoreauputic: what about it?
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> a freedomtoaster..
[11:44] <kevix> kevix, not I. nyc!
[11:44] <bil> Okay, I have antoher question. How do I make Synaptic make my user owner or at least exec rights on install?
[11:44] <robotgeek> dooglus: man mount, this is what i have in my fstab /dev/hda10     /home/me/hdd2      reiserfs    rw,noauto,user             0       2
[11:44] <WebLOCH> azertyuuu, there was a codec pack... but thats dead now
[11:44] <dooglus> robotgeek: that's for reiser4?  or reiser3?
[11:44] <drummer87> azertyuuu, install w32codecs
[11:44] <deFrysk> w32codecs ?
[11:44] <WebLOCH> yeah
[11:44] <drummer87> it's still around somewhere, just not in the repos
[11:44] <WebLOCH> IT was removed, but marillats kept it
[11:44] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I think I found a partial clue/ solution - if you disable daily checking in synaptic, it seems the apt-cache thing stops breaking
[11:44] <WebLOCH> Now its not there either
[11:44] <deFrysk> azertyuuu, wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:44] <robotgeek> dooglus: i think it's for both, i am not sure what i have :)
[11:45] <deFrysk> azertyuuu, sudo dpkg -i that package
[11:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I confirmed your bug... hmm let me get the number
[11:45] <dooglus> thoreauputic: the problem seems to be that if your network connection is down or the repo is unavailable, apt-get will delete its cache of the repo contents instead of leaving it alone.
[11:45] <azertyuuu> deFrysk: thanx
[11:45] <azertyuuu> thanx all
[11:45] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right
[11:45] <kevix> thoreauputic, are you referrring to the face that if you do an apt-get update while not online, it delete your files?
[11:45] <dooglus> robotgeek: trying to mount it using 'reiserfs' type gives "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/home"
[11:45] <Madpilot> Nei: what actual chip are you running?
[11:45] <WebLOCH> is the default BitTorrent client actually any good?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> kevix: sort of - also attemting to do an apt-cache search
[11:46] <dotrig> how i open a port?.
[11:46] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, sure and its light
[11:46] <bil> Okay, I have antoher question. How do I make Synaptic make my user owner or at least exec rights on install?
[11:46] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, does it do DHT scraping ?
[11:46] <dooglus> WebLOCH: it does the job.  doesn't interface with Azureus' dht though
[11:46] <WebLOCH> ahh
[11:46] <WebLOCH> hmm
[11:46] <WebLOCH> what to do!
[11:46] <kevix> bil, sudo synaptic
[11:47] <bil> k
[11:47] <dooglus> WebLOCH: I use azureus.  it gobbles all my RAM and makes the system run like a dog but it's the only dht client I've found for linux
[11:47] <Nei> Madpilot, mobile xp 2000+
[11:47] <thoreauputic> dooglus: so by disabling the daily update in synaptic, users not always connected can work around the bug: but there should be some kind of check
[11:47] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, if you install sunjava as described in the wiki it should be no prob to download azureus, unpack it and use it
[11:47] <kevix> dooglus, reiserfs = version 3. reiserfs4 is version 4
[11:47] <ph8> dooglus: dht?
[11:47] <robotgeek> dooglus: try using reiser4
[11:47] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, yeah i will do
[11:47] <dooglus> kevix: right.  how do I mount a reiserfs4 partition?
[11:47] <dooglus> kevix: I see "mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiserfs4'"
[11:47] <bil> kevix, that's not a permanent solution though?
[11:47] <ph8> is there anything like akregator (news aggregator) for gnome?
[11:47] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, does the w32codecs pack come in a 64 bit edition?
[11:47] <ProN00b> is there any way to play shoutcast streams ? (or get a comparable streams archive like winamp ? (pron, simpsons... ^^))
[11:47] <robotgeek> dooglus: as the mount option as in mount -t reiser4
[11:47] <dooglus> or "mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'"
[11:48] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, make sure to have plenty ram tho ;p
[11:48] <WebLOCH> deFrysk, ive got the beastly system, i was running it a few days ago
[11:48] <robotgeek> dooglus: google is your friend. i found this: http://forums.dreamincode.net/index.php?s=d1f0da3249fa52e0626112438da2fbe4&showtopic=10701&st=0&#entry113339
[11:48] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: sure - install streamtuner and you'll have access to shoutcast
[11:48] <kevix> dooglus, I dont think its part of ubutnu yet. if it is , its not stable.
[11:48] <deFrysk> WebLOCH, dunno about 64bit , sorry perhaps the wiki knows
[11:48] <ProN00b> thoreauputic, only its audio streams, not the video ones...
[11:48] <dooglus> WebLOCH: better is to install blackdown java - it works with azureus and it already packaged in the official repos
[11:48] <Madpilot> Nei: you can run the k7 kernel, then -
[11:49] <thoreauputic> ProN00b: ah, video I don't know...
[11:49] <WebLOCH> dooglus, yeah I have to anyway for Dev purposes
[11:49] <robotgeek> dooglus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27673.html this too
[11:49] <glyn> where could I get help with a runtime error '13' mismatch?
[11:49] <Madpilot> Nei: I had a Linux-savvy friend switch this machine over to the k7 kernel, so I can't remember how we did it... sorry
[11:49] <glyn> what channel?
[11:50] <dooglus> robotgeek: so it needs a kernel rebuild to get reiser4 working?
[11:50] <robotgeek> Nei: i think you could just apt-get install it
[11:50] <robotgeek> dooglus: i dunno
[11:50] <kevix> robotgeek, so it confirms that ubuntu does not have reiser 4 yet.
[11:50] <dooglus> robotgeek: I've tried a few times but I just can't get the kernel to boot after I build it
[11:50] <deFrysk> Madpilot, sudo apt-get install linux-k7 ?
[11:50] <dooglus> maybe dapper has reiser4?
[11:51] <Madpilot> deFrysk: I know it's something like that, but I'm not at all sure of the details - and don't want to mess someone else's computer up ;)
[11:51] <kevix> dooglus, ubutu is based on debian 'sid'. I dont recall debian sid have reiser4 yet....
[11:51] <dooglus> kevix: ah, ok
[11:51] <deFrysk> Madpilot, i beleive its am meta package and covers the default kernel modules afaIk
[11:51] <dooglus> kevix: I was just thinking about playing with reiser4.  I'll give it a miss then :)
[11:52] <kevix> dooglus, I just checked. there is a patch 'kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4 - Kernel patches for Reiser4 FS' in debian sid.
[11:52] <deFrysk> reiser4 does not like grub too much afaIk
[11:52] <dooglus> my laptop doesn't like grub either.  it uses lilo
[11:52] <kevix> deFrysk, that could be a problem. what boot loader would support it.
[11:53] <deFrysk> with reiser4 in /boot make sure to use lilo indeed
[11:53] <bil> kevix I'm afraid that didn't help at all.
[11:54] <deFrysk> kevix, if you would have a seperate /boot with no reiser4 on it so I would be able to keep on using grub
[11:54] <kevix> bil, are you trying to install software with synaptic?
[11:54] <bil> kevix: yes I am
[11:54] <bil> Its making root owner
[11:54] <kevix> deFrysk, that would seem the best way.
[11:55] <kevix> bil, and when you type the comand , and then try to install software, there are no errors? does it work?
[11:55] <bil> there are some errors/warning, but ti still runs
[11:55] <bil> all the way to install
[11:56] <kevix> bil, well, yes. root install software. not user.
[11:56] <bil> the app is there, but i don't have exec permissions
[11:56] <kevix> bil, you are not root.
[11:56] <kevix> bil, are you familar with the concept of seperation of prividlege in Unix/debian/ubuntu?
[11:57] <bil> no, but i've used unix before, so i understand that much owner/group/usr privileges
[11:57] <bil> urg
[11:57] <bil> Right, you said unix, yes
[11:57] <atripathi> goodevening peeps
[11:57] <kevix> bil, so as user you can see the choices. but you must be root to install software.
[11:57] <IanDoh> ubuntu sucks
[11:58] <IanDoh> startx doesn't even work
[11:58] <robotgeek> IanDoh: why?
[11:58] <IanDoh> you fucking load of niggaz#
[11:58] <dooglus> some .wmv files have DRM protection on them.  is it possible to play those in ubuntu?
[11:58] <robotgeek> IanDoh: welcome to my ignore list
[11:58] <kevix> IanDoh, we are here to help. please play nice or folks wont help.
[11:58] <dooglus> IanDoh: what an extraordinary performance!
[11:58] <bil> I'm running synaptic from the menu. i don't know if it thinks i am root or user
[11:58] <thoreauputic> IanDoh: that's just unacceptable
[11:59] <bil> kevix^
[11:59] <crazzybugger> The dvd images available from ubuntu is installable ?
[11:59] <dooglus> bil: when you run synaptic, synaptic runs as root.
[11:59] <bil> okay
[11:59] <kevix> dooglus, I have played .wvm but not the DRM ones, IIRC?
[11:59] <atripathi> anyone using webmin with breezy?
[11:59] <bil> how to i set it up so that i will be able to run apps as user? can i config synap to do it automatically?
[11:59] <kevix> bil, does it ask for a password when you install software?
[11:59] <bil> no
[12:00] <WebLOCH> anyone here use a download manager with their browser?
[12:00] <dooglus> kevix: if I try playing the file in windows, it shows some web page and tells me to let it install spyware before I can watch the movie.  in linux it doesn't do anything.
[12:00] <robotgeek> !downloadmanager
[12:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, robotgeek
[12:00] <Madpilot> bil: synaptic works w/ sudo, but the apps it installs should run for your user...
[12:00] <robotgeek> !download_manager
[12:00] <ubotu> it has been said that download_manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadManager
[12:00] <atripathi> @web: yeah firefox
[12:00] <crazzybugger> anyone answer me?
[12:00] <kevix> dooglus, its windows, what else would you expect x-)
[12:00] <WebLOCH> atripathi, that doesnt really count :P
[12:00] <bil> madpilot: the app went into the /usr/bin, but i don't have exec permissions
[12:01] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: take a look at that fresh wiki entry :)
[12:01] <atripathi> really? I use it :)
[12:01] <kevix> bil, so it would seem that running synaptic from a menu is not the way to go.
[12:01] <WebLOCH> mmm tasty robotgeek
[12:01] <dooglus> kevix: I was wondering if I could run it in wine as a new user.  then after watching the movie I could remove the user, taking the spyware with it
[12:01] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: also take a look at d4x, with the flashgot extension
[12:01] <bil> kevix: what do you suggest?
[12:01] <kevix> bil, 99% of software install on debian or ubuntu goes into /usr/bin/
[12:01] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, im using epiphany atm, these all compatible?
[12:02] <bungle> your all to sexy
[12:02] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: o_o all firefox
[12:02] <bungle> I might sleep in here tonight fella's
[12:02] <kevix> dooglus, sounds dooable, but it may play in ubuntu fine?
[12:02] <kevix> bil, run it from the command line as 'sudo synaptic'
[12:02] <robotgeek> bungle: thanks for the visual
[12:02] <bil> kevix: i did that and got the same result
[12:03] <atripathi> hey anyone use Webmin ?
[12:03] <kevix> dooglus, could you point me to a DRM file, a short one, to see if I can play it.
[12:03] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, does that mean all firefox-a-likes, or just all for firefox
[12:03] <robotgeek> atripathi: used to use it
[12:03] <kevix> does anyone here user 'sudo synaptic' to install software?
[12:03] <atripathi> was working on hoary ... but now it doesnt
[12:03] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: all for firefox
[12:03] <fonsken> which package do i have to install for the manpage of c-functions like strcpy etc?
[12:03] <atripathi> breezy has some problem with it i think
[12:03] <bungle> robotgeek, was that sarcasim
[12:03] <glyn> anyone experienced with wine here I could talk to?
[12:04] <robotgeek> bungle: yeah
[12:04] <bungle> << not male
[12:04] <bungle> lmfao
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kevix: there's a trick to webmin -  /msg ubotu webmin to read about it
[12:05] <taucher> test
[12:05] <Victor_> hey
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kevix: whether you knew about it I don't know
[12:05] <deFrysk> taucher, /j #test to test
[12:05] <robotgeek> fonsken: try getting gcc-documentation
[12:05] <thoreauputic> taucher: no, we can't see you ;)
[12:05] <taucher> really
[12:05] <taucher> mhm
[12:06] <robotgeek> fonsken: sudo apt-get install gcc-doc
[12:06] <glyn> anyone experienced with wine here I could talk to?  you could be 1 of 700 people who actually helped me out
[12:06] <fonsken> thx, robotgeek
[12:07] <deFrysk> glyn, try #wine if you get no answers here :)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> actuallyI think #winehq IIRC
[12:07] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, correct thats the one :)
[12:07] <dooglus> you know the little red update thingy in the top right corner of the screen?  how often does it do the "apt-get update" thing?
[12:08] <deFrysk> dooglus, once a day a check I believe
[12:08] <dooglus> glyn: I've never had much luck with wine.  I've tried it quite a few times but it always seems to fail
[12:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I assume that's the synaptic setting that says "update daily" or something
[12:08] <bil> my user should be part of the group user? it was in its own group
[12:08] <kevix> fonsken, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[12:08] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I don't know - I never run synaptic, and the update manager thingy is a separate program isn't it?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> bil: normal on debian based distros
[12:09] <kevix> glyn, /join #winehq
[12:09] <bil> thankjs thoreauputic
[12:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: dunno - but as I said earlier, that setting seems to disable the check/update here
[12:09] <dooglus> deFrysk: I ask because whenever I run dapper, the update manager never tells me there are updates waiting.  but when I check manually, there always are.
[12:09] <hit3k> Can I ask a logical yet stupid question
[12:09] <kevix> bil, debian/ubuntu is not like older unix.
[12:10] <deFrysk> dooglus, as I said it checks once a day
[12:10] <dooglus> deFrysk: could it be because with development versions there are no "updates" - all the updates come via the "main" source
[12:10] <bil> kevix: okay. is there some config file for synaptic that might be at fault?
[12:10] <deFrysk> dooglus, but if you apt-get update , it will report of course
[12:10] <kevix> bil, you could use 'visudoers' and give your self root like privs.
[12:11] <dooglus> deFrysk: any idea how that update is timed?  is it cron?  or anacron?  or something internal to the update manager?
[12:11] <robotgeek> fonsken: also apt-cache show manpages-dev has valuable information
[12:11] <bil> kevix: i think i already did. could that be the problem?
[12:11] <deFrysk> dooglus, dunno, never checed into is
[12:11] <kevix> bil, ok. 'sudo visudo' and look at the root line.
[12:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: it appears to run with cron daily here
[12:11] <deFrysk> it*
[12:11] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I noticed the bug surfaced after cron daily (the deletion thing)
[12:11] <dooglus> thoreauputic: the problem with cron is that I might not be booted into dapper at the time the crontab is scheduled to run.  then I'd miss the update
[12:11] <kevix> bil, well dont know. ubuntu did change some things with privs. have to ask a developer for details.
[12:12] <bil> kevix: yes, and my username is under it with exact same line
[12:12] <hit3k> Yay irssi
[12:12] <deFrysk> dooglus, it also works properly in dapper , on my box that is
[12:12] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I think the 'cron daily' jobs are really run by anacron, not cron
[12:12] <bil> kevix: that was so i could run stuff like synaptic
[12:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right I see - but evidently anacron runs it as soon as you boot anyway
[12:12] <hit3k> kevix: Could you help me please
[12:12] <robotgeek> i prefer cron, it's pretty striaghtforward
[12:12] <thoreauputic> dooglus: ah, you just said the same thing :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> sorry
[12:12] <kevix> bil, the ubuntu was is to 'sudo COMMAND'.
[12:12] <dwerf> how would i make vlc my default movie player?
[12:12] <kevix> hit3k, whats up. I missed it.
[12:13] <robotgeek> dwerf: system-> prefs -> default applications
[12:13] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I believe anacron runs the daily jobs at 7:30 each morning, or just after the first time you switch runlevels in a day, which ever comes first
[12:13] <Darknight77> hello
[12:13] <bil> kevix: okay, lemme remove the package, and then sudo and install it from scratch (is only small, shouldn't take long)
[12:13] <dwerf> robotgeek > no players listed there, only browser and e-mail client
[12:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes, at about 7:35 here
[12:13] <hit3k> kevix: every time i try to open more than 3 programs at once Ubuntu freezes
[12:13] <hit3k> and i cant figure out why
[12:13] <Darknight77> anyone here has install of wine 0.9?
[12:14] <robotgeek> dwerf: oh well, i think it's time to sleep
[12:14] <kevix> hit3k, did this always happen? it no, when did it change.
[12:14] <dwerf> robotgeek > that's funny, i jus got up
[12:14] <kevix> Darknight77, it is better to ask in #winehq
[12:14] <dwerf> robotgeek > sleep well
[12:14] <hit3k> kevix: It only started happening a few months ago when i reinstalled it onto a 40Gb hard drive
[12:14] <robotgeek> dwerf: i think i've had too many beers!
[12:14] <Darknight77> kevix, thx
[12:14] <thoreauputic> dwerf: right click a movie file, go to preferences, select or add vlc, check it, close
[12:14] <kevix> hit3k, how old is the computer?
[12:15] <ph8> quit
[12:15] <thoreauputic> dwerf: if it's set there it will be defult for your user
[12:15] <ph8> oops :p
[12:15] <hit3k> uhh about 2 or 3
[12:15] <dwerf> thoreauputic > i've tried that, but nautilus gives me an error then
[12:15] <kevix> hit3k, did you move it recently or install anything?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> dwerf: what error ?
[12:15] <hit3k> uhh I installed windows on a seperate HDD.. thats about it and amsn
[12:16] <kevix> hit3k, it could be heat, part not set right, or other HW. or memory. there is somethign called memtest or valgrind to test for bad mem.
[12:16] <emile> hit3k: i'm having the same problems (computer freezes from time to time) never had it with hoary
[12:16] <hyakuhei> !info gkrellm
[12:16] <ubotu> gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB
[12:16] <hit3k> kevix: I ran mem test and no errors came up
[12:16] <glyn> hit3k>Hoary freezes a lot for me
[12:16] <dwerf> thoreauputic > "the application nautilus has quit unexpectedly"
[12:16] <robotgeek> hyakuhei: also check out conky, http://conky.sf.net
[12:16] <hit3k> Yeah I'm using hoary at the moment
[12:16] <kevix> hit3k, if you use win$ does it work ok there?
[12:17] <hit3k> kervix, It doesnt freeze in windows
[12:17] <dwerf> thoreauputic > it's weird, because it only seems to do this with mpg's
[12:17] <thoreauputic> dwerf: oh, nautilus is crashing when you select vlc? Odd
[12:17] <emile> kevix: is there some way to trace why hangups occur?
[12:17] <burepe> I am trying to set non-standard ports in bittorrent commnad line but I am not sure how to do it. The directions I am following say "To run it on a non-standard port I made an alias in .bashrc with this line in it:
[12:17] <burepe>  alias bt="btdownloadcurses.py --minport 12345 --maxport 12360"
[12:17] <burepe>  That way when I download a torrent I just need to do:
[12:17] <burepe>  $bt file.torrent
[12:17] <kevix> hit3k, then it may be the current version of ubuntu. it releases ever 6mo. and getting better.
[12:18] <hit3k> kevix: I'm using hoary..
[12:18] <hit3k> it didnt happen before i put it on this hard drive
[12:18] <thoreauputic> dwerf: have you tried, for instance, using totem-xine?
[12:18] <kevix> emile, yes, but if you eliminate the obvious easy ways, it get to the point that it may be a software issue.
[12:18] <dwerf> nope
[12:18] <kandoora_> what is the difference between synaptic package manager and update manager
[12:19] <dwerf> should i?
[12:19] <robotgeek> burepe: put that in your .bashrc
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I suggest you install totem-xine
[12:19] <kevix> hit3k, did you transfer the install from one HD to the other, if so how?
[12:19] <emile> kevix: i ran memtest and some hdd checker, no problems found, temparature is fine either
[12:19] <dwerf> will do
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: works well here
[12:19] <hit3k> kevix: I didnt I used a CD
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dwerf: have you read the wiki page on Restricted Formats?
[12:19] <burepe> do I make a file or do i put it in a file? is .bashrc a file or a directory?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> !tell dwerf about restricted
[12:20] <kevix> emile, hit3k sometimes it could be good to use a more recent kernel, it possible?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> burepe: it's a file
[12:20] <burepe> where is it located?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> burepe: in your home dir
[12:20] <hit3k> kevix: I updated my kernel last time it was updated
[12:20] <dwerf> thoreauputic > yes i've read the docs, installed all, but keep getting the error
[12:20] <kevix> hit3k, I mean you had a small HD and then added a 40GB. is the install on the small hd or did you reinstall to the 40gb
[12:20] <burepe> thoreauputic, thanks
[12:21] <emile> kevix: i'm running 2.6.12-9, breezy default
[12:21] <robotgeek> burepe: alias btdownload='python /home/me/progs/BitTorrent-4.1.3/btdownloadcurses.py --forwarded_port 6991' in ~/.bashrc
[12:21] <ssam> kandoora_, update manager only does updates
[12:21] <freq> hello
[12:21] <thoreauputic> dwerf: install totem-xine nd try that
[12:21] <hit3k> kevix: I unplugged the smaller one and plugged in the 40 then installed it
[12:21] <freq> can someone help me
[12:21] <ssam> kandoora_, synaptic is more advanced and lets you uninstall or install stuff
[12:21] <robotgeek> !tell freq about ask
[12:21] <dwerf> thoreauputic > yes i understand, but it seems to be a nautilus error
[12:21] <kevix> emile, well then its beyond me.... you need someone up the food chain...
[12:21] <thoreauputic> dwerf: hmm - true
[12:22] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I'm using rox filer in fluxbox atm so I can't check easily
[12:22] <kevix> hit3k, emile if you run from a CD, does it happen?
[12:22] <kandoora_> ssam: so if i have some updates shown by update manager do i go ahead with it?
[12:22] <freq> my problem is this my keyboard is not work best
[12:22] <planetcall> why ubotu talks about rumour with webmin?
[12:22] <ssam> kandoora_, yes
[12:22] <Nei> Madpilot, wow, it works in the k7 version. shitty ubuntu :/
[12:22] <freq> my english is bad
[12:22] <robotgeek> emile: you might want to check your kernel log or /var/log/messages file
[12:22] <hit3k> kevix: It did once but after that it didnt
[12:22] <thoreauputic> planetcall: just a figure of speech :)
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, language please
[12:23] <kgl> How do I install programs? I'm a total linux newb...I've downloaded Opera web browser, and unzipped it to control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz and debian-binary. Then I unpacked the .gz-files, but dont know what to do with the files?
[12:23] <robotgeek> freq: do u want to change keyboard layout
[12:23] <emile> robotgeek: yeah i did that, but after a freeze no inforr
[12:23] <ssam> kandoora_, its there to save you having to learn to use synaptic (not that synaptic is very hard to use)
[12:23] <freq> yes
[12:23] <thoreauputic> planetcall: the bot is programmed to use various phrases
[12:23] <Nei> ompaul, go to hell
[12:23] <planetcall> I am having problem with webmin over breezy. Are they having any problem together?
[12:23] <robotgeek> Nei: that was unwarrented
[12:23] <kevix> kandoora_, update, if you want to.
[12:23] <Nei> sorry
[12:23] <dwerf> thoreauputic > after installing xine, the errors are gone - it works, but i don't understand
[12:23] <hit3k> Meh I'll finish downloading breezy and install it
[12:23] <robotgeek> emile: does it only happen while running a certain prog
[12:23] <freq> robotgeek how i change that
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, I am asking you to mind your language we would like it to be possible that kids can use this channel
[12:23] <planetcall> It actually is pointint to a workaround. I want to know if there is anything recent about webmin and ubuntu incompatibility
[12:23] <dwerf> thoreauputic > what does xine do?
[12:23] <ompaul> Nei, that was all
[12:23] <thoreauputic> dwerf: I don't either, frankly ;)
[12:23] <Nei> ompaul, you don't have kids do you :P
[12:23] <kevix> hit3k, as I told emile, that's all I can think of. need to get a ubuntu guru!
[12:24] <kgl> anybody?
[12:24] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[12:24] <robotgeek> freq: system -> preferences -> keyboard . then use the layout tab
[12:24] <planetcall> please msg ubotu webmin
[12:24] <kandoora_> ssam but the weird thing is that i know for a fact that inkscape's version is 0.42.2 where as there are no updates to my 0.42
[12:24] <odie5533> Is there a cvs server for ubuntu?
[12:24] <bil> what gets used instead of make around these parts?
[12:24] <dwerf> thoreauputic > what's rox filer, by the way?
[12:24] <hit3k> kevix: thanks anyway
[12:24] <thoreauputic> dwerf: xine uses it's own engine, and w32codecs etc
[12:24] <freq> i test
[12:24] <WebLOCH> dooglus, was it you that told me to grab blackdown so i could run azureus?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> !info rox-filer
[12:24] <ubotu> rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[12:24] <zyga> what is .m4a?
[12:24] <kandoora_> would synaptic and update manager clash
[12:24] <zyga> and how to play this
[12:24] <emile> robotgeek: i'm trying to eleminate programs, first i thought it was java (azureus) but pc also freezes if i dont use that
[12:24] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: try rufus too, from http://rufus.sf.net
[12:24] <cas> hi, does anyone knows a method to show what kind of filesystem a partion has?
[12:25] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, well i was gonna ask where azureus is now.. it doesnt appear to be in repos
[12:25] <Nei> can someone tell me where I would report a bug about the keyboard settings in ubuntu's gnome?
[12:25] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: i like rufus..very small footprint
[12:25] <Coweater> cas: if you can mount it, then run mount without arguments it'll show
[12:25] <dwerf> thoreauputic > the !info didn't work
[12:25] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I got it from debian repos myself, works fine
[12:25] <zyga> Nei, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:25] <hit3k> emile: what else do you run? it only happens when i run gAIM, mozilla or Xchat for me
[12:25] <robotgeek> emile: good luck with that
[12:25] <kgl> How do I install programs? I'm a total linux newb...I've downloaded Opera web browser, and unzipped it to control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz and debian-binary. Then I unpacked the .gz-files, but dont know what to do with the files?
[12:25] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, maybe but does it support DHT scraping ?
[12:25] <freq> robotkeeg my problem is this when i write a it put q
[12:25] <thoreauputic> dwerf: um - it did
[12:25] <robotgeek> Nei: check for previous bugs posted though.
[12:26] <thoreauputic> ubotu rox-filer: (A simple graphical file manager for X11), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-xfld.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 921 kB, Installed size: 2800 kB
[12:26] <ubotu> thoreauputic: what are you talking about?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:26] <freq> i am noob :d
[12:26] <kevix> kgl, we use apt-get and dpkg here. no need to unzip anything.
[12:26] <robotgeek> freq: install the program xkeycaps, and visually select your layout
[12:26] <kandoora_> thoreauputic, do synaptic and update clash, let's say if i use both would there be any problems
[12:26] <freq> ohoo
[12:26] <WebLOCH> odie5533, which repo exactly...?
[12:26] <cas> Coweater, I know, but it will mount ext3 as ext2 if I do that. It's not critical but there must be a simple program(option) to show it i guess
[12:26] <freq> how i install
[12:26] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: no, should work fine
[12:27] <freq> :D
[12:27] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>-3_all.deb
[12:27] <hit3k> Whats the latest kernel?
[12:27] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: i am not sure. i click and download. check the website. it's really written around g3torrent or something like that
[12:27] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: or you could use azureus :)
[12:27] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=7e636f01dfc22e2c618fd67251e2fe76&t=75272 <-- tutorial
[12:27] <kevix> hit3k, 2.6.13
[12:27] <freq> robtotgeek
[12:27] <Nei> robotgeek, would you have an idea what to search for? I'm kinda troubled as to how to describe this problem
[12:27] <WebLOCH> ill probs stick to azureus for now
[12:27] <WebLOCH> ty tho
[12:27] <hit3k> well The update says its download 2.6.10 :/
[12:27] <freq> *robotgeek
[12:27] <robotgeek> Nei: what's wrong with the keyboard settings
[12:28] <propagandhi> hit3k: unless you mean the linux kernel alone, which is currently 2.6.14
[12:28] <freq> robotgeek
[12:28] <robotgeek> freq: i'm here!
[12:28] <kevix> hit3k, there is the latest, and then there is the latest in YOUR versioin of ubuntu x-)
[12:28] <freq> how i install :d
[12:28] <hit3k> ohh
[12:28] <robotgeek> freq: sudo apt-get install xkeycaps
[12:28] <hit3k> well
[12:28] <freq> thx
[12:28] <hit3k> I should finish downloading breezy then
[12:28] <Nei> robotgeek, when I go to Compose key settings, and set the compose key to be on Menu, the themes turn off and on and off and on
[12:29] <emile> hit3k: mozilla, the others i dont use
[12:29] <kevix> hit3k, dont forget to order a few dozen to give your friends!
[12:29] <kandoora_> i've got NOT AUTHENTICATED updates, should i update or not, sorry for the caps
[12:29] <WebLOCH> odie5533, did you follow that guide EXACTLY ?
[12:29] <Nei> robotgeek, until after some time gnome(?) tells me that it will stop trying to restart the settings
[12:29] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I did indeed. Works perfectly
[12:29] <thoreauputic> kandoora_: if they are from official repos, sure
[12:29] <Nei> robotgeek, and at that point all my terminals are unusuable too
[12:30] <Nei> robotgeek, even restarting doesn't fix it, I have to disable the menu key is compose key setting first
[12:30] <robotgeek> Nei: check out system -> preferences -> keyboard -> layout options tab
[12:30] <freq> it sqys
[12:30] <hit3k> kevix: I'm gonna burn some and I ordered some of the internet
[12:30] <freq> *says
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, apt is telling me I cant install it b ecause I have a load of unmet depedancies
[12:30] <flogiston> What sounddriver gives the best sound?
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, when I try to get them it complains
[12:30] <robotgeek> Nei: under layout settings
[12:30] <KillerBOB> ASLA
[12:30] <freq> xkeycaps is found
[12:30] <robotgeek> flogiston: all u got is alsa :)
[12:30] <kevix> !info dashboard
[12:30] <WebLOCH> odie5533, could I have a copy of your sources.list ?
[12:30] <odie5533> try sudo apt-get check
[12:30] <freq> where i can download it
[12:30] <odie5533> sure one sec
[12:30] <flogiston> But i get distorted sound when playing dvds in vlc.
[12:30] <LokeDK> How do I choose gcc 3.4, since the kernel is not compiled with gcc 4.0
[12:31] <KillerBOB> is dma enables
[12:31] <hit3k> probably only because 30% of my friends know what linux is and I want to get my school to try it.
[12:31] <flogiston> I can't chose alsa there
[12:31] <freq> is not found sorry
[12:31] <kevix> !tell dashboard
[12:31] <Nei> robotgeek, the system/preferences/keyboard is what I'm talking about
[12:31] <robotgeek> freq: u need to enable repositories
[12:31] <freq> oo
[12:31] <freq> where
[12:31] <odie5533> WebLOCH, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3826
[12:31] <freq> i m noob
[12:31] <flogiston> I can't run alsaconf either.
[12:31] <robotgeek> Nei: then search for keyboard shortcuts
[12:31] <hit3k> Hmm I have alot more swap since the last install
[12:31] <robotgeek> !tell freq about repos
[12:31] <Nei> robotgeek, when I go to the third tab there and enable the compose key
[12:31] <propagandhi> LokeDK: as long as you have installed gcc-3.4 you can temporarily use 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4'
[12:32] <Nei> robotgeek, then that described phenomenon appears
[12:32] <Cryptid> is there additional repos that i can add to breezy????
[12:32] <LokeDK> propagandhi, I have - thanks
[12:32] <WebLOCH> odie5533, Sorry for the trouble, apparently it was due to a couple of broken packages
[12:32] <dwerf> what would be a good graphical adventure game for linux?
[12:32] <propagandhi> LokeDK: no probs
[12:32] <flogiston> The adventures of pp racer:P
[12:32] <thoreauputic> !tell Cryptid about repos
[12:32] <odie5533> WebLOCH, Is it working now though?
[12:32] <hit3k> Ah well next freeze I'm just gonna boot into windows
[12:33] <robotgeek> Nei: btw, which key is the menu key?
[12:33] <kevix> dwerf, falconseye !
[12:33] <kandoora_> does anyone use inkscape
[12:33] <hit3k> flogiston: PP Racer rocks :P
[12:33] <flogiston> Yes!
[12:33] <kevix> kandoora_, on ocassoion
[12:33] <WebLOCH> odie5533, sure is...
[12:33] <freq> thanx robotkeeg
[12:33] <freq> :d
[12:33] <dwerf> kevix - thanx
[12:33] <flogiston> no one knows who to run alsaconf? I have alsa-utils installed.
[12:33] <kandoora_> kevix, can u tell me the exact version with the build
[12:33] <WebLOCH> odie5533, do you always have to change permissions for the plugin directory before it actually works ?
[12:33] <highvoltage> how do i mount my reiser4 partition in breezy?
[12:34] <kevix> flogiston, 'sudo alsaconf'
[12:34] <thoreauputic> flogiston: alsaconf is deprecated and no longer installed
[12:34] <odie5533> WebLOCH, what plugin directory?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> kevix: it isn't installed :)
[12:34] <highvoltage> it created the partition without any problems, but mount -t reiser4 says unknown filesystem
[12:34] <kevix> thoreauputic, so what replaces it?
[12:34] <Nei> robotgeek, it is the key in the last row that is not the windows key (nor ctrl or alt)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> kevix: nothing as far as I know
[12:34] <flogiston> How do i setup alsa then?
[12:34] <robotgeek> Nei: in windows, it right clicks?
[12:34] <kevix> thoreauputic, what flogiston said!
[12:35] <Nei> robotgeek, and in ubuntu too by default
[12:35] <WebLOCH> odie5533, azureus has a plugin dir, it downloads its own updates to there, and keeps complaining unless I change permissions to allow for writing etc
[12:35] <alexbligh> Does anyone know of a ubuntu package that contains 2.6.14 or the best way to make one (incorporating all the ubuntu patches)? Alternatively, anyone succeeded in getting a 3-ware 9550SX to work by backporting the RAID driver to 2.6.12 (tried, and it seems unsuccessful).
[12:35] <robotgeek> Nei: ppc here, sorry!
[12:35] <kandoora_> kevix, can u tell me the exact version with the build
[12:35] <alexbligh> (AMD64)
[12:35] <Nei> robotgeek, but I guess you know now which one it is ;)
[12:35] <flogiston> Hm...
[12:35] <odie5533> WebLOCH, I personally didn't have to, but if it works and still complains you should be fine. Else, change the permissions if it doesn't work
[12:35] <WebLOCH> odie5533, haha it just segged :(
[12:35] <robotgeek> alexbligh: i am pretty sure that it is not available
[12:35] <robotgeek> Nei: yeah :)
[12:35] <kevix> kandoora_, 'sudo apt-cache show inkscape'
[12:35] <WebLOCH> brb all
[12:35] <burepe> thoreauputic, it took me a while the file was hidden, where do I put it in the .bashrc file?
[12:36] <kevix> !info inkscape
[12:36] <ubotu> inkscape: (vector-based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.42-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5794 kB, Installed size: 24168 kB
[12:36] <robotgeek> alexbligh: you might have to compile your own, with sources from kernel.org, or so
[12:36] <odie5533> Is there a CVS server for Ubuntu
[12:36] <alexbligh> robotgeek: it's not available on the ubuntu servers as a package, but I'm quite happy to make the package myself.
[12:36] <ryanmt> Can somebody look at this please http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3827 and tell me why my first monitor is only at 1240x1024 and my 2nd monitor now has really bad scan lines?? :(
[12:36] <kevix> kandoora_, it appears to be 0.42
[12:36] <alexbligh> robotgeek: Yes, I can do that, and pull the config from 2.6.12 ubuntu dist - that's no problem. The problem is knowing which of the dpatch patchesets to integrate into 2.6.14
[12:36] <thoreauputic> burepe: an alias? I put mine at the bottom
[12:36] <kandoora_> kevix, but the latest is 0.42.2 and i can't seem to update, i wonder why
[12:36] <kevix> robotgeek, there is the 'debian' way to do kernel builds!
[12:36] <thoreauputic> burepe: I don't think it matters much
[12:36] <robotgeek> kevix: i know, done it before
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[12:37] <kevix> kandoora_, what command did you use?
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: first link i used. referenced by the ubuntu wiki!
[12:37] <burepe> y
[12:37] <kandoora_> nothing, the update is not available in the update manager nor synaptic
[12:37] <kevix> robotgeek, been there many times!
[12:37] <robotgeek> kevix: :)
[12:38] <kandoora_> kevix, is there a command i need to use
[12:38] <ryanmt> Can somebody look at this please http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3827 its my xorg.conf and tell me why my first monitor is only at 1240x1024 and my 2nd monitor now has really bad scan lines?? :(
[12:38] <kevix> kandoora_, you did 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install inkscape' and what happened?
[12:38] <glyn> !pastebin
[12:38] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:38] <alexbligh> robotgeek/kevix: what is the best way to ascertain the correct list of dpatch's to apply to a more modern kernel when building a package? Some of them have aobviously been integrated into mainline.
[12:39] <freq> idont find it
[12:39] <freq> :d
[12:39] <freq> xkeycaps
[12:39] <robotgeek> alexbligh: no idea. i havent needed to compile my own kernel in a long long time!
[12:39] <kevix> alexbligh, if you use the 'newbiedoc' way it will be sufficient for 90% of folks. do you need something special?
[12:39] <robotgeek> freq: did you add the universe repository?
[12:39] <freq> i dont know :d
[12:40] <robotgeek> freq: did u read the link ubotu sent you
[12:40] <thoreauputic> !tell freq about repos
[12:40] <freq> yes
[12:40] <WebLOCH> anyone here using 64bit kernel with Azureus?
[12:40] <BeGu> with what command I can register my nick?
[12:40] <kevix> alexbligh, the idea is that doing it that way, it has been vetted by debian security. as opposed to new untested source.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> BeGu:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[12:40] <BeGu> thanks
[12:41] <alexbligh> kevix: I'm trying to get ubuntu installed on a machine where the root (and only) filing system is a 3ware 9550SX raid controller. 2.6.12 doesn't recognize this, the driver came in 2.6.14. What that means in pracgtice is rebuilding the install CD. I did that by backporting the driver into 2.6.12 (which sort of works) but it fails on boot (can't find /dev/rd0 - don't understand why it's looking for rd0 for h/w RAID).
[12:41] <thoreauputic> BeGu:  /msg nickserv help  for more info
[12:41] <WebLOCH> Anyone?
[12:42] <alexbligh> kevix: Also, whilst I can get my 2.6.12 kernel up with backported driver (using a stolen SATA drive), there are all sorts of errors about invalid LUNs and mkfs goes very very very slow, so I think my backport may have failed ...
[12:42] <BeGu> The nickname [begu]  is already registered :((
[12:42] <BeGu> damn
[12:42] <ompaul> WebLOCH, wait 15/20 mins and see if anyone is then looking at the screen that was not
[12:42] <robotgeek> alexbligh: you are going way over my head. i am a normal ide user :)
[12:42] <kevix> alexbligh, that sounds like non-newbie stuff. I'd suggest #debian or a (if it exists) #ubuntu-dev or look for a debian method to use with ubuntu.
[12:43] <ompaul> WebLOCH, and ask a more specific question like "Why does setup X do blah"
[12:43] <alexbligh> kevix: OK thanks. I thought it was getting into "non-trivial" :-)
[12:44] <ompaul> #ubuntu-devel but be careful it is not a support channel at all - so you will most likely be redirected to here - and maybe one of them follows you :-)
[12:44] <kevix> alexbligh, one of the unique benefits of free/open source is that you can email/chat/talk to THE folks doing it. Try to chat with bill gates or steve jobs!
[12:44] <kevix> ompaul, i dont think they would just kick him out. he is asking a legitimate question.
[12:45] <ompaul> kevix, they don't kick but he _may_ be advised to come here that is all
[12:46] <davidbro> Hi - I'm having trouble connecting to the repositories - I get timed out using synaptic or apt what should I check?
[12:46] <kevix> ompaul, from my experice so far, #ubuntu may have someone to help him, but 90% are not at that level.
[12:46] <WebLOCH> ompaul, I thought my question was specific enough
[12:46] <ompaul> kevix, concur
[12:46] <alexbligh> kevix: I'll try #ubuntu-devel
[12:46] <thoreauputic> kevix: probably more than 90% in fact
[12:47] <kevix> thoreauputic, I was being nice x-)
[12:47] <ompaul> WebLOCH, I would include details of whatever the failure was, that helps someone choose if they think they know what the answer is
[12:48] <dwerf> how the hell do i kill a process if it doesn't respond to 'kill'?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> kevix: very commendable ;-)
[12:48] <kevix> well its been fun! see ya in 20 hours!
[12:48] <bustacap> hey everyone..
[12:48] <ompaul> kevix, have fun
[12:48] <glyn> how do I check the version of something?
[12:48] <alexbligh> dwerf: kill - KILL
[12:48] <thoreauputic> dwerf: try sudo kill
[12:48] <dwerf> the process has the 'zombie' status
[12:48] <odie5533> Is there any CVS server/client in the ubuntu repos?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: or alexbligh 's suggestion ;)
[12:49] <alexbligh> dwerf: you can't kill it, it's just waiting for its parent to die or acknowledge it's death - it's doing no harm
[12:49] <bustacap> just a general question, *off topic*, what is a good blogging provider on the net..
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: you can't kill zombies
[12:49] <ompaul> zombies only go away when the machine is rebooted they have no impact other than to own a process id
[12:49] <dwerf> :-)
[12:49] <thoreauputic> dwerf: they are alredy dead ;)
[12:49] <robotgeek> bustacap: wordpress
[12:49] <bustacap> yeah..
[12:49] <bustacap> thanks..
[12:49] <bustacap> what's good about it..
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dwerf: zombies are mostly harmless though
[12:50] <dwerf> well, this dead process takes up my whole screen
[12:50] <robotgeek> bustacap: can u come in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you have not been watching the movies I have :)
[12:50] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hahah
[12:50] <thoreauputic> :D
[12:50] <thoreauputic> dwerf: what process is this?
[12:50] <joost> hello :) I got a startup problem, can anybody help me? At first i couldnt install 5.10 cuz of my laptop cddrive not reading burned cd's, so i installed 5.04, and upgraded that. Now when i boot it either fails loaden (IRQ problem) but if i choose the right kernell (?? i think) in the grub menu it does boot properly, how do i make that kernell default to boot?
[12:51] <luis_> hellow
[12:52] <anderss> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:52] <joost> thanks, gonna try
[12:52] <freq> robotkeeq what is the command
[12:53] <ompaul> hit3k, please turn that message off NOW
[12:53] <hit3k> sorry
[12:53] <freq> now i installed the programm
[12:53] <davidbro> I had to disable ipv6 in order to get a reliable connection to the internet - now firefox works but not evolution or synaptic - both get timed out.
[12:53] <El_Che> joost: put the kerel block as the first on the list in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:53] <Revellion> noisy auto-away's :S
[12:53] <hit3k> i forgot about it
[12:54] <ompaul> hit3k, :)
[12:54] <odie5533> Is there any cvs for ubuntu?
[12:54] <robotgeek> joost: we heard u the first time around
[12:54] <robotgeek>
[12:54] <thoreauputic> hit3k: I suggest yo disable it permannently - those messages are a pain
[12:54] <joost> hmm robotgeek, i only asked once :P
[12:54] <freq> robotkeeq what is the command
[12:54] <robotgeek> joost: sorry, i had hit page up by mistake and the u asked twice
[12:55] <joost> hehe :)
[12:55] <hit3k> thoreauputic, I did after ompaul set off my highlights
[12:55] <joost> good for you ;)
[12:55] <thoreauputic> hit3k: :)
[12:55] <freq> how i now configure settings
[12:55] <robotgeek> freq: u done adding universe repositories?
[12:55] <anderss> you figured it out joost?
[12:55] <freq> yes you say it first
[12:55] <joost> i've done vim /boot/blaaaa
[12:55] <joost> and saw the part to change
[12:56] <joost> but, vim , im a n00b ;)
[12:56] <freq> but i dont remember it
[12:56] <anderss> use nano
[12:56] <robotgeek> freq: xkeycaps
[12:56] <joost> gonna gedit
[12:56] <anderss> nano is way easier on us humans than vim
[12:56] <freq> now how i write it
[12:57] <freq> md
[12:57] <joost> okay, i've edited it... gonna reboot to try, thanks all!
[12:57] <robotgeek> freq: what keyboard layout do you want to use?
[12:58] <anderss> no problem
[12:58] <El_Che> joost: gedit is fine!
[12:58] <robotgeek> joost: sorry again!
[12:58] <freq> finnish
[12:59] <freq> but what is the command in the console
[12:59] <robotgeek> freq: do u have finnish set in system -> preferences -> keyboard?
[12:59] <freq> i dond remember
[12:59] <freq> yes
[12:59] <freq> but is not work
[12:59] <robotgeek> freq: the command is xkeycaps. sudo apt-get install xkeycaps.
[01:00] <robotgeek> freq: though, the layout options from system -> preferences -> keyboard is very nice
[01:01] <joost> thanks it worked booting into the right kernell! :)
[01:03] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooood(morning|afternoon|evening|night) #ubuntu
[01:04] <highvoltage> hi Seveas
[01:04] <Hobbsee> evening Seveas :)
[01:04] <robotgeek> hi Seveas
[01:04] <alain__> u too Seveas
[01:04] <joost> evening? lol
[01:05] <alain__> 13H 04
[01:05] <Seveas> joost, he's in australia, not here in Holland ;)
[01:05] <joost> ok :)
[01:05] <alain__> just give us your local time
[01:05] <Seveas> 'middag watnou
[01:05] <Hobbsee> joost: yes, evening
[01:05] <Hobbsee> 11.05 pm sun night
[01:06] <watnou> hello seveas :)
[01:06] <joost> 1pm sunnyday :)
[01:06] <watnou> just got up
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Seveas: he?
[01:06] <RevPeter> 1:06pm Sunnshine
[01:06] <eSPete> why does symlink not work in pure-ftpd?
[01:07] <Seveas> eSPete, you need to enable that in the config
[01:07] <robotgeek> 6:05 am here, 6 beers down!
[01:07] <RevPeter> +48xxxxxxxxx
[01:07] <Seveas> RevPeter, ?
[01:07] <eSPete> Seveas, how? in what file?
[01:07] <RevPeter> :)
[01:07] <joost> hey robotgeek, drunk with 6 beers? ;)
[01:07] <Seveas> vsftpd.conf
[01:07] <Seveas> excusa
[01:07] <RevPeter> mobile-cellphone
[01:07] <Seveas> pure-ftpd.conf
[01:07] <Seveas> mattt, /exec date
[01:08] <Seveas> don't forget that daylight savings time ended this night
[01:08] <mattt> my system clock is wrong, and i got confused if the time change happened already
[01:08] <alain__> what time is it by ypur watch youngcoder  ?
[01:08] <eSPete> Seveas, i dont have that file...
[01:08] <mattt> Seveas, yeah :)
[01:08] <robotgeek> joost: that's 6 beers sitting at this terminal, i had a few before :)
[01:08] <Seveas> mattpj1, where on this planet are you?
[01:08] <joost> heheh ok :)
[01:08] <Seveas> mattt*
[01:08] <joost> i think it's a nice to to act dutch O-)
[01:09] <robotgeek> mattt: run tzconfig and then sudo ntpdate time.ubuntulinux.org  :)
[01:09] <Seveas> 12:09 in london now
[01:09] <mattt> Seveas, thanks!
[01:09] <mattt> robot:  doing that now :P
[01:10] <Seveas> (gdesklets worldclock is quite useful
[01:10] <Seveas> )
[01:10] <Seveas> let's see if I can package up the beast
[01:12] <mattt> anyone use jabber.org as a jabber server?
[01:14] <eSPete> where is pure-ftpd.conf suppose to be, and what do i need to put in it to enabel symlink?
[01:14] <IamJacksUsername> 5.04, xine: "The stream 'dvd:/' use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec: MPEG layer 2/3 (0x0)". Video plays, no sound. ubuntu.com/search and Google has nothing.
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> usually conf are in /etc ...
[01:15] <Seveas> IamJacksUsername, did you install an mp3 codec?
[01:15] <IamJacksUsername> I can play normal DVDs fine tho.
[01:15] <odie5533> Whats the best way to set up a dual boot win98 and Ubuntu Breezy?
[01:16] <kairu0> anyone recommend a financial program for ubuntu?
[01:16] <robotgeek> kairu0: gnucash
[01:16] <odie5533> kairu0, gnucash
[01:16] <kairu0> ok
[01:16] <kairu0> thnx
[01:16] <highvoltage> odie5533: install windows first, then ubuntu.
[01:16] <IamJacksUsername> Seveas: I installed win32codecs long ago, but I don't think mp3s play.
[01:16] <highvoltage> the ubuntu installer will do most of the work for you.
[01:16] <odie5533> anyway to do it the other way around?
[01:17] <cantona> any kernel 2.6.14 ubuntu package
[01:17] <highvoltage> it's more difficult, because windows doesn't understand the linux filesystems.
[01:17] <odie5533> more difficult or possible?
[01:17] <odie5533> I already have ubuntu installed =/
[01:17] <highvoltage> and it overwrites your mbr, which isn't difficult to fix, but it's way easier to do it win first, linux second.
[01:17] <IamJacksUsername> Seveas: I'm loading a page called "RestrictedFormats" now, answer in there?
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, its impossible unless billy boy says so
[01:17] <highvoltage> do you have a spare partition / disk for windows?
[01:17] <odie5533> who is billy boy?
[01:18] <odie5533> highvoltage, no =/
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> bill "geek" gate
[01:18] <odie5533> I thought his last name had an s
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> oh yah
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> lots of gates
[01:18] <wickedpuppy> one isn't enough ... window also ends with s
[01:19] <odie5533> Lini
[01:19] <topyli> IamJacksUsername: mp3 support is not in w32codecs but in gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:19] <odie5533> multiple Linux, Lini?
[01:19] <mon> i've got eh this: 17253 pts/0    Z      0:15 [java]  <defunct>
[01:19] <thoreauputic> odie5533:  Linices
[01:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:19] <mon> what options do i have apart from rebooting?
[01:19] <topyli> odie5533: linuxen
[01:19] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:20] <odie5533> Is there a plural of Linux?
[01:20] <dooglus> Linux is an adjective isn't it?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> unix - unices:  linux - linices
[01:20] <odie5533> well its not really a word to begin with so I suppose not
[01:20] <topyli> odie5533: unixen, linuxen, emacsen, boxen :)
[01:20] <dooglus> a linux distribution, or a linux kernel.
[01:20] <anderss> Anybody tried Mezzo in ubuntu?
[01:20] <IamJacksUsername> topyli: thanks.
[01:20] <thoreauputic> dooglus: but linux is a noun applied to the kernel
[01:20] <thoreauputic> "Linux" = the kernel
[01:21] <odie5533> hah it is linuxen
[01:21] <odie5533> he plural of "Linux" is "Linuxen". Similarly, the plural of "box" when referring to a tower system is "boxen". On the other hand, the plural of "unix" is "unices".
[01:21] <robotgeek> nite ppl, cya tommorow
[01:22] <topyli> in debian, emacs packages such as emacs21 or xemacs depend on emacsen-common
[01:22] <odie5533> Is there any CVS server and client in the repos?
[01:22] <wickedpuppy> odie5533, of course ... search for cvs .. also svn
[01:23] <odie5533> too many
[01:23] <odie5533> is there any good one?
[01:23] <wickedpuppy> svn
[01:23] <glyn> when I try to uninstall something, it says make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[01:23] <odie5533> svn is subversion repository
[01:24] <glyn> can anyone help please?
[01:24] <ProN00b> ok, i finally have to ask this
[01:24] <odie5533> is there a plain cvs server/client
[01:24] <mifritscher> glyn, try clean
[01:24] <wickedpuppy> bingo ... svn is better than cvs ... :P
[01:24] <socketbind> way better :)
[01:24] <ProN00b> whats the key combination to copy and paste from and to console ?
[01:24] <glyn> make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[01:24] <socketbind> Ctrl+Ins and Shif+Ins I believe
[01:25] <mifritscher> but it doesn't uninstall anything, it yust removes the Obejkt files and binarys
[01:25] <mifritscher> where do you try it?
[01:25] <glyn> ~/.wine
[01:25] <bil> I have two questions. 1) How do I find my ip address in linux for tightvnc connections and 2) How do I see what processes are running from the desktop (can I?)
[01:26] <mifritscher> hmm, then make is complete useless...
[01:26] <thoreauputic> bil:  ifconfig , and use the system monitor  or run top ina terminal
[01:26] <glyn> mifritscher>why is that?
[01:26] <bobbyd__> hi
[01:27] <mifritscher> make is a utlity that helps compiling
[01:27] <petros> hello
[01:27] <bil> thanks thor
[01:27] <petros> is there a way to change the default ubuntu bootsplash screen?
[01:28] <bobbyd__> I have an nfs file system moutned with "nfs auto,rw,exec,user 0 0". When I tey to execute programs from it it says permission denied even though the remote user owns the files. Any ideas why this may be happening?
[01:28] <joost> im trying to add a samba user, so i can talk to my windows machine... i've added the user in system>admin>users&groups .. but when i try to add it in samba (??) "sudo smbpasswd -a windows" i type the pass twice, but than it sais the user doesnt excist?
[01:28] <wickedpuppy> joost, samba uses it own user accounts ... just like sql
[01:28] <mon> bobbyd__: executing is disabled be default on some types of mounts, like NFS, iirc. there's a mount option to enable it again
[01:29] <joost> ohhh, and how do i add a user than?
[01:29] <bobbyd__> mon: yes, I think it's exec, whixh I showed above that I have...
[01:29] <joost> sorry, im a n00b :)
[01:29] <mon> bobbyd__: oh sorry, didn't see it :)
[01:29] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. i am not using samba .. samba.org ?
[01:29] <bobbyd__> Mon: no problem, I'm just confused
[01:30] <joost> ok, gonna check that... im trying to do it as written on ubuntuguide.org but that failed, gonna see the site, thanks
[01:30] <glyn> how do I uninstall wine easily?
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> glyn, synaptic
[01:32] <gouchi> Hi
[01:32] <pavka> hi all
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> bon jour gouchi
[01:32] <watnou> hi
[01:33] <salutis> hello all, i have 2 questions: 1) how i clean up only small group icons on desktop (not all)? 2) how i disable fading effect on logout?
[01:33] <gouchi> do you where information of hardware database has recorded ?
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> gouchi, System -> Administration -> Device manager ?
[01:33] <gouchi> nope
[01:34] <infested_maggot> can someone pls help me with a java jre install pls.
[01:34] <gouchi> information from hwdb-gui
[01:34] <infested_maggot> hello wickedpuppy
[01:34] <mon> salutis: clean? you mean deletE?
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you are still here with that question!
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> holy cow
[01:34] <eSPete> how do i make symlink wokr in pure-ftpd?
[01:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yeah. last night i was going to sleep. now i`m back with fresh powers :D
[01:34] <salutis> mon, no - only line-up in grid (as clean-up in desktop context menu)
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, its night here .. lol
[01:35] <mon> salutis: tried right mouse button?
[01:35] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: here it`s like 2:34 PM
[01:35] <gouchi> wickedpuppy : hwdb.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <gouchi> ;-)
[01:35] <bobbyd__> Mon: got it, a bad option i nthe fstab...
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> gouchi, ah k thanks
[01:36] <infested_maggot> so, wickedpuppy , what the hell do i have to do to update my jre from 1.4.2 to 1.5. i think i`ve installed the 1.5 deb like 4 times by now.
[01:37] <pavka> can someone help me with debianizing? i need howto or example to debianize package with much more sources archives and much more final binary debian packages....
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, why you need to upgrade ?
[01:37] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: because azureus won`t run with that version of java. or so i was told
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, have you tried it yourself ? or you are repeating what you are told ?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot:  update-alternatives --config java
[01:38] <mattt> anyone in the UK want to donate 128 MB of 144-pin laptop ram to me?  (or anything > 128 would be acceptable as well)  :)
[01:39] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: the guys from azureus-user told me that.
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> eh ah
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> lol
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[01:39] <_jason> salutis:  when you right click ont he desktop there should be a clean up option
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> kk try thoreauputic method :P he is more pro
[01:39] <infested_maggot> ok ..
[01:39] <mattt> can anyone recommend a good stable jabber server to use?
[01:40] <salutis> _jason, mon: but this option is for all icons on desktop
[01:40] <infested_maggot> holly shoot, that was so damn easy :)
[01:40] <_jason> salutis:  ho I understand your question now, hrmm... idk of a way to do that
[01:40] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: you might need to use sudo on that command
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ah Ok
[01:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:40] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: i did, yeah. thanks dude.
[01:41] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[01:41] <salutis> hm
[01:41] <infested_maggot> and yeah, it is working fine now :)
[01:41] <thoreauputic> :))
[01:42] <infested_maggot> damn.
[01:42] <dOD> quit
[01:42] <pavka> hm
[01:43] <glyn> I installed the new wine using ./tools/wineinstall from the wine 0.9 directory and after that I did apt-get install wine and it installed version 0.0.2
[01:43] <glyn> what do I do?
[01:43] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: can u belive me, i was trying to fix azures all night last night, until some dude told me to use java 1.5 becaus azureus won`t work right with 1.4.2
[01:43] <infested_maggot> it was so bllody simple
[01:43] <infested_maggot> *bloody
[01:43] <infested_maggot> hehe, naruto 157, here i come !!
[01:44] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: we've all been there - often it's just a matter of finding someone who has done it and knows a one-liner ;)
[01:44] <infested_maggot> thoreauputic: once again, thanks :)
[01:45] <irvin> how do i add an alias (e.g. ppp)
[01:45] <thoreauputic> infested_maggot: no problem - it's always nice to solve a problem for someone :))
[01:45] <irvin> alias ppp=`/usr/sbin/pppd -detach'` in /etc/profile?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> irvin: usually in ~/.bashrc
[01:46] <thoreauputic> irvin: unless you want system wide, then look in /etc/bash.bashrc
[01:46] <MrBean> hey
[01:46] <MrBean> how do i get a terminal window up in breezy ?
[01:46] <hit3k> The same way you do in hoary?
[01:46] <MrBean> how lol cos ive lost it
[01:46] <thoreauputic> irvin: BTW you have backticks there - they should be just apostrophes
[01:47] <_jason> MrBean:  it is in accessories now
[01:47] <MrBean> i cant find the terminal
[01:47] <MrBean> ohh
[01:47] <MrBean> :P
[01:47] <MrBean> lol
[01:47] <thoreauputic> MrBean: look in accessories
[01:47] <irvin> thanks thoreauputic
[01:47] <MrBean> i found it now :P
[01:47] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[01:47] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[01:47] <bobbyd__> can anyone suggest a good graphical front end to cvs?
[01:47] <irvin> i'm setting up a dial-in callback server
[01:48] <irvin> i got the dial-in portion right but lost on callback
[01:48] <hit3k> Anybody know any sites to get some hacks for Gnome?
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: from memory KDE has cervisia
[01:48] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: don't know about gnome
[01:48] <Nikusan> hit3k: http://www.gnome-look.org
[01:49] <morphoide> a
[01:49] <hit3k> Nikusan, Thanks
[01:51] <glyn> I build a program and then I use app-get to install it but it gives me the old version
[01:51] <glyn> what is wrong?
[01:51] <hedonick> bobbyd: apt-cache search turned up 'pharmacy' for gnome (never used it though)
[01:51] <hit3k> glyn, what do you mean?
[01:52] <glyn> I use the installer to build wine
[01:53] <glyn> then I use apt-get wine and it gives me the old version
[01:53] <hit3k> you downloaded the source and compiled it?
[01:53] <glyn> am I doing something wrong?
[01:53] <erofrai> glyn, did u use checkinstall?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> glyn: unless you built a *.deb, yes, you will just get your old version
[01:54] <thoreauputic> unless you put the new one in say /usr/local/bin, and that is earlier in your $PATH
[01:54] <regebro> Hi! How can I fugure out what version of a package Ubuntu 5.10 uses, without like, installing it? :)
[01:55] <glyn> should it work normally once I use the Installer to build and install it?
[01:55] <wickedpuppy> regebro, if you don't install .. there is no version ?
[01:55] <defcon8> anyone know a programme that recognises text from a picture?
[01:56] <gouchi> defcon8 : search about ocr
[01:56] <regebro> I was unclear, I don't mean without installing the package. I mean without instyalling Ubuntu. :)
[01:56] <bobbyd> defcon8, search for optical character recognition
[01:56] <defcon8> ok
[01:56] <thoreauputic> defcon8: no offhand - but search in synaptic for ocr (optical character recognition)
[01:56] <raphael> regebro: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bobbyd: :)
[01:56] <gouchi> defcon8 : the only one I know is gocr
[01:57] <regebro> raphael: Alright, thanks.
[01:57] <defcon8> thanks
[01:59] <paf> #join zope
[01:59] <MrBean> how can i install make on my system ?
[02:00] <paf> you should do "apt-get install make" as root
[02:00] <thoreauputic> MrBean: install the build-essential package
[02:00] <Seveas> MrBean, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:00] <MrBean> ty :)
[02:01] <stefan_> How do I find out, what's my audio outout device? It isn't /dev/dsp
[02:02] <tescoil> stefan_: do you have any aps successfully providing audio output, e.g., xmms?
[02:03] <stefan_> tescoil: yes. I think i use ALSA
[02:04] <stefan_> tescoil: mpg123 works fine, but if I try to play sth. in rhythmbox the sound is scattered
[02:04] <defcon8>   hell
[02:04] <Seveas> defcon8, please stick to english in here
[02:04] <defcon8> yes
[02:06] <tescoil> stefan_, there's some file you can cat with alsa... I have to figure out which...
[02:09] <hume> i'm trying to get my ALPS topuchpad working, trying to apply the apls patch from xorg-driver-synaptics - but get error msgs.  It says alsp.c alreay exists, and then Hunk #1 Failed, anyogot advice?
[02:10] <XRUK> Hey, I've not got Ubuntu installed yet but when I do, if I install a program through Ubuntu on a user account, will other users be able to see this program on their menu and if not, how do I set up my system so all users can see all programs I install?
[02:10] <XRUK> through Synaptic on a user account*
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> XRUK, menus are shared by every accounts ... i think
[02:12] <Curare> in my case every program I installed every app was accesible by all users
[02:12] <Juhaz> XRUK, you can't install programs with synaptic as user, it will always be system-wide installation
[02:12] <agt> !fonts
[02:12] <ubotu> I guess fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:13] <XRUK> Alright thanks :)
[02:13] <agt> !sources
[02:15] <Toccy> Hey
[02:15] <Toccy> I need some help with the Lilo package for Ubuntu 5.04
[02:17] <Toccy> Anyone?
[02:17] <Toccy> Must be someone here
[02:17] <Toccy> !info Lilo
[02:17] <ubotu> lilo: (LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others), section base, is optional. Version: 1:22.6.1-6.2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 333 kB, Installed size: 1068 kB
[02:17] <MenZa`> Why don't you upgrade to breezy anyway?
[02:17] <Toccy> No modem until next week
[02:17] <dooglus> Toccy: what's the problem?
[02:17] <MenZa`> Oh right
[02:17] <Toccy> Wel
[02:17] <Toccy> Well
[02:18] <Toccy> I'm a complete newbie. When I install Lilo I get that I have to run "liloconfig(8)"
[02:18] <Toccy> I tried running that in terminal and trying the debconf stuff
[02:18] <Toccy> But i'm clueless
[02:18] <dooglus> is anyone familiar with running ubuntu in a chroot?  If so, how do I run the /etc/rc3.d/* stuff for the chroot?
[02:18] <dooglus> Toccy: what if you just "sudo lilo"?
[02:19] <[gen2] Niki> does anyone know a apt source with games like AA or ET?
[02:19] <Toccy> Ah
[02:19] <[gen2] Niki> id like to install them over apt
[02:19] <Toccy> I never tried that
[02:19] <Toccy> But I says when I load it from the cd I need to configure it or it won't work
[02:19] <dooglus> Toccy: it's suggesting that you should run "sudo liloconfig" to set up the lilo config first.
[02:20] <dooglus> Toccy: I never tried that, but you could
[02:20] <odious> i'm having dns resolving issues. i've disabled ipv6 in modprobe.d/aliases, but most applications still timeout resolving names. a workaround (?!) is to ping a name, so it's cached, and then i can use it ie ping irc.freenode.net;bitchx odious irc.freenode.net. but that's no fun.
[02:20] <Toccy> Okay
[02:20] <Toccy> Because i've only got internet on my windows (Which I am on) i'll have to reboot
[02:21] <Toccy> So bye
[02:21] <Toccy> Thanks
[02:21] <MenZa`> Good luck with it Toba
[02:21] <MenZa`> Toccy*
[02:21] <glyn> what's an easy way to see what files are taking up the most space on your system?
[02:21] <Tokenizer> msg uboto mouse5
[02:21] <Tokenizer> grr
[02:22] <colen> good morning everyone\
[02:22] <colen> trying to install my printer
[02:22] <hedonick> glyn: looking for big files in your home directory or what?
[02:23] <glyn> yeah
[02:23] <XRUK> glyn: I think you could grep a list of all the files on your system into a file arranged by size
[02:24] <XRUK> As to what command to use though, I don't know
[02:24] <_jason> ubotu:  tell colen about printing
[02:24] <XRUK> glyn: Do you play basketball?
[02:25] <ramza3> question, do I need an domainname for my server to send and receive email
[02:25] <tescoil> glyn: du command.
[02:25] <tescoil> glyn: du == disc usage
[02:26] <colen> my printer is not in the list
[02:26] <glyn> XRUK:Yeah how did you know?
[02:26] <_jason> colen:  what printer?
[02:26] <ramza3> what do I need to setup for sending mail to gmail, POSTFIX-SSL?
[02:27] <glyn> lol
[02:27] <colen> _jason: nevermind, I have loacted it
[02:27] <colen> thank you.
[02:27] <Howitzer> could anyone msg me the contents of their /etc/sudoers file so that i can use it?, because i kind of ruined mine :/
[02:27] <_jason> colen:  you're welcome
[02:28] <topyli> ramza3: most mail clients can send mail directly to your ISP's or google's smtp server
[02:28] <Alinux> hi people, I'm Georgian Team Translator and need help. I've have aredy translated totem, but there is an error in translation...how can I search the word...without "Next 10" or "Last" are there some other better method tu manage everything...it's so slow :(
[02:28] <Tokenizer> i'm having troubles connecting the system sound to the volume of forexame XMMS or any other player...... how can i do this so that if i mute the upper volume button right beside the clock, XMMS also mutes........ ie synch these or link them
[02:28] <ramza3> topyli: I think gmail only accepts through ssl, I dont think I have that installed
[02:28] <XRUK> glyn: I knew soemone who played basketball called glyn
[02:29] <topyli> ramza3: well, most clients can do use ssl too :)
[02:29] <XRUK> glyn: and I think he was going off to do Comp Sci, so I figured if he uses linux he might do Comp sci
[02:29] <glyn> XRUK: Where did you know him from?
[02:29] <XRUK> carmel
[02:29] <topyli> ramza3: doesn't your ISP have a mail server you can use?
[02:29] <glyn> XRUK: Wasn't me, sorry..lol
[02:30] <ramza3> topyli, hmm,I wonder why my server keeps getting connection timeouts when sending, I am using postfix .. I am the ISP
[02:30] <XRUK> glyn: heh, nevermind :)
[02:30] <devilrox> hi to everybody
[02:30] <ramza3> topyli, pretending to anyway
[02:30] <EY> hi guys
[02:30] <EY> i'm having lots of problem configuring my cisco aironet 340 with ubuntu (5.10)
[02:30] <tescoil> has anyone managed to decode streaming mp4 videos?  Archive.org has a bunch of Interesting ones.
[02:30] <devilrox> qualche italiano?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> !it
[02:31] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[02:31] <devilrox> tnx
[02:31] <colen> _jason: apprantly the canon pixma ip1500 is not supported?  and a quick google search didnt come up with to much
[02:31] <EY> during the first phase of the install (before the reboot), it managed to access the ubuntu website, but after reboot, not.
[02:31] <rey> de dandi sos
[02:31] <ramza3> topyli: I think I need to setup my NAT configuration so I can do outbound and inbound smtp
[02:31] <topyli> ramza3: many ISPs refuse mail sent from dynamic IP addresses. do you have one?
[02:32] <ramza3> topyli: should be static
[02:32] <topyli> i'd use my isp's mail server as a smarthost anyway
[02:32] <ramza3> topylis: ahh
[02:33] <_jason> colen:  you can check if the turboprint.de drivers support it, other than that you're best bet is to post on the forums and check if anyone else has ahd any luck with it or to try a driver for a similar model and see how well it performs
[02:33] <anderss> uhm what package should I install to enable mp3-support?
[02:34] <steffi> Hallo
[02:34] <_jason> ubotu:  tell anderss about mp3
[02:34] <indro> hi
[02:34] <anderss> I know that it's not supported right away 'n all
[02:35] <EY> anyone else having problems with aironet 340 and ubuntu 5.10?
[02:35] <_jason> anderss:  read the page ubotu sent you, it explains how to get them to work
[02:35] <indro> siemens gigaset usb adapter 11 supported by ubuntu?
[02:35] <anderss> _jason I dont think he sent me anything?
[02:36] <_jason> anderss:  you should have received a pm from ubotu, but here is the link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:36] <anderss> thanks
[02:37] <boci^> webmin support apache2?
[02:37] <indro> its a atmel AT76C505A chipset
[02:38] <ssam> EY, those aironets work well for me
[02:38] <indro> is that supported?
[02:40] <anderss> hey can anybody tell me how to enable danish charsets (or whatever it's called) in aterm? I can't figure it out
[02:40] <anderss> it's pretty stupid since xterm has it running all fine from the beginning
[02:41] <indro> hm?
[02:41] <indro> nobody knows?
[02:41] <moparfan90> i have a .iso file and its for CD's not DVD's and its 1.7GB how do i make it on 2 or 3 CD's?
[02:42] <EY> ssam, what kerneL?
[02:42] <moparfan90> nevermind
[02:43] <Tokenizer> anyone knows how to get the volume of system be adjusted using the volume up/down buttons on the keyboard, i hvae set the shortcuts and when i press up/down i see the volumen animation on the screen go up or down, however the actual sound doesn't change, where do i go to set this option?
[02:44] <EY> how can i find out what kernel is used by the install disk?
[02:44] <thenuke> uname -a
[02:45] <tescoil> EY: uname -a
[02:45] <tescoil> EY: If it's installed already.
[02:45] <EY> tescoil, it's the same as the installed kernel?
[02:46] <tescoil> EY: Are you trying to determine the version of an installed kernel?
[02:46] <stjepan> what name sounds better: slapatoo or slapat?
[02:46] <EY> no, the one used by the install  cd (5.10) without booting with it.
[02:46] <erUSUL> EY, during instalation change to a virtual console (Crtl. + Alt + Fn) and do uname -r
[02:47] <EY> erUSUL,  without booting with it? do you have that info?
[02:47] <tescoil> EY: 2.6.12-9-386
[02:47] <tescoil> EY: That's mine on 5.10
[02:48] <EY> ok, thanks
[02:48] <EY> easy way to change kernel in ubuntu?
[02:48] <deFrysk> EY, witch proc ?
[02:48] <cosonic> hi
[02:48] <deFrysk> -t
[02:48] <tescoil> stjepan, slapatoo, definitely
[02:48] <EY> x86
[02:49] <deFrysk> nm
[02:49] <glyn> how much free space do I need to copy my xauthorization file?
[02:50] <stjepan> tescoil: why?
[02:51] <tescoil> stjepan, I just thought I'd say definitely about something I have absolutely no stake in.
[02:51] <gluke> I'm a very newbie to ubuntu. Could anybody help me pls?
[02:51] <Ins|de> hi there, i have a problem with nvidia drivers, i get this error starting Xorg: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[02:51] <stjepan> gluke: of course
[02:52] <stjepan> gluke: what's your problem?
[02:52] <gluke> It's a l10n question.
[02:52] <_jason> I'm trying to get wget to download to a different directory than the current one by using the -P switch but it doesn't seem to work.  Anyone know what I am doing wrong?  (command used: wget -P '/home/jason' -O asf_url_temp.asx http://www.tsf.pt/tsfdirecto.asx
[02:52] <_jason> )
[02:52] <indro> is atmel chipset supported for Breezy Badger? (siemens gigaset wlan usb adapter 11)
[02:52] <tescoil> l10ns and tigers and bears, oh my!
[02:53] <gluke> While installing 5/04 i'm told that my install cd does not contain full support of my lang
[02:53] <gluke> but there is my language=pack
[02:53] <CookedGryphon> Hi i'm gettign an error when i log in saying my $HOME/.dmrc should have 64 permissions and be owned by user, which it is but the error message still comes up and I can't get rid of it
[02:53] <gluke> what else does it wants?
[02:53] <glyn> umm I can't access my synpatic to remove programs or packages or anything
[02:53] <glyn> how would I manually do that on the terminal?
[02:53] <stjepan> gluke: how do you mean full support?
[02:54] <stjepan> you can't get support for everything
[02:54] <glyn> I want to get rid of openoffice
[02:54] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, have you changed the permisions of the file in question chmod 644 .dmrc
[02:54] <erUSUL> ??
[02:54] <dooglus> _jason: don't use -O if you're using -P
[02:54] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: yeah i have, but the error message still comes up
[02:54] <stjepan> indro: I have usb adapter 54
[02:54] <stjepan> indro: and it is veeery easy to configure it in ubuntu
[02:54] <gluke> stjepan: i'm not sure what it means. it proposes me to download something
[02:54] <sadikxxx> hey how can i get my wireless adapter (from the asus a7n8x-e deluxe mobo) to work?
[02:54] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, and the user?
[02:55] <stjepan> gluke: I have no idea :(
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> yeah, i own the file
[02:55] <_jason> dooglus:  thanks!
[02:55] <indro> stjepan: you have a wlan0 without configure?
[02:55] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, btw wich program uses this conf file
[02:55] <stjepan> sadikxxx: what wireless adapter?
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> i think its the file that is used to save the session defaults
[02:55] <stjepan> indro: no
[02:55] <stjepan> indro: are you now in ubuntu?
[02:55] <indro> what must do for that? in hoary i have no wlan0
[02:55] <indro> no i want install it but in hoary it dont work
[02:56] <sadikxxx> stjepan its a wireless adapter that came with the mobo. kinda like pci but not quite
[02:56] <dooglus> glyn: sudo apt-get remove package
[02:56] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, mine is 600. try chmod 600 .dmrc; chown user:user .dmrc
[02:56] <stjepan> indro: do you know what is ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <indro> yes
[02:57] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: ok i'll try that, back in a min, the error message does have a spelling mistake in, so its possible they messed that up too
[02:57] <stjepan> indro: have you tried with ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <indro> no, that should work?
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: Install ndiswrapper (it doesn't require network connection to install): sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: maybe
[02:58] <stjepan> indro: then put cd with your driver
[02:59] <stjepan> indro: and then do: $ sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/driver.inf
[02:59] <Tokenizer> so noone here knows how to get the volume and player control buttons on a keyboard work on ubuntu?
[02:59] <stjepan> indro: after that $ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:00] <stjepan> indro: and then opet System>Administration>Networking. There should appear wlan0
[03:00] <bytefoo> ohhh snap, thats right...its DST
[03:00] <stjepan> indro: that works with usb adapter 54. It should work with 11 too
[03:00] <topyli> Tokenizer: my extra keys do work. find your keyboard model in the keyboard settings, and setup shortcuts in the preferences
[03:00] <indro> okay, try that, thanks
[03:01] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL: no luck with that
[03:02] <tescoil> My most persistent technical problem of the weekend is a Betty Boop video.  <http://www.archive.org/details/bb_chess_nuts>
[03:02] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, :( i do not know what to do nest then
[03:02] <erUSUL> next*
[03:02] <cosonic> HEllo
[03:03] <Tokenizer> topyli, that part is done, pressing the buttons shows that volume slider change on my screen..... it goes up and down fine, however it doesn't actually make my volume change
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> -rw-r--r--  1 adam adam 26 2004-04-30 21:01 .dmrc
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> doe stha tlook right
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> could someone do a ls .dmrc -l so i can compare mine to it?
[03:04] <_jason> CookedGryphon:  -rw-------  1 jason jason 47 2005-10-10 12:19 .dmrc
[03:04] <cosonic> hi ..im new to linux and im trying to install mplayer   ..this is what i get  root@ubuntu:~# apt-get install mplayer
[03:04] <cosonic> Reading package lists... Done
[03:04] <cosonic> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:04] <cosonic> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[03:04] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: I don't have one :)
[03:04] <mantra> I have an asus k8n-e motherboard onboard sound card nforce based I believe, got sound/mp3 working, but cedera fails on alsa check and if I set mulimedia input to alsa it fails, (using 64bit breezy) any ideas ?
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> interesting...
[03:04] <_jason> ubotu:  tell cosonic about mplayer
[03:04] <thoreauputic> cosonic:  apt-cache search mplayer
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> the thing is, the error message comes up but it doesn't seem to affect anythign, i can still save my session and stuff
[03:04] <thoreauputic> cosonic: there are several - like mplayer-586 etc
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> its jstu annoyign cos it comes up every time i log on
[03:05] <dooglus> cosonic: "mplayer-nogui" is good
[03:05] <topyli> Tokenizer: oh, that's another problem, i don't know why it wouldn't work. does the volume applet or the gnome mixer work?
[03:05] <Tokenizer> yah
[03:05] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, -rw-------  1 xxxx xxxx 26 2004-10-11 15:59 .dmrc
[03:05] <Tokenizer> shouldn't they be the same?
[03:06] <cosonic> apt-cache is the database right?
[03:06] <erUSUL> !tell cosonic about repos
[03:06] <topyli> Tokenizer: yep
[03:06] <thoreauputic> cosonic: the list of installable stuff, yeah
[03:06] <CookedGryphon> weird, mine doesn't work even when i ahve it set to coem up as exactly the same as that
[03:06] <Tokenizer> i really don't want to install this though....... http://lineak.sourceforge.net/
[03:06] <tescoil> Is there linux mp4 video decoding?  I keep finding stuff on *streaming* mp4, but not *watching* it.
[03:06] <cosonic> root@ubuntu:~# apt-cache search mplayer
[03:06] <cosonic> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Tokenizer: lineakd doesn't play nice with gnome in breezy
[03:07] <thoreauputic> or the reverse
[03:07] <topyli> Tokenizer: xbindkeys used to work well for me in the past
[03:07] <erUSUL> cosonic, read what ubotu told you. you do not have all repos activated
[03:08] <thoreauputic> cosonic: you need multiverse and universe
[03:08] <tescoil> ...and I find packages related to mp4 *audio*.
[03:08] <Tokenizer> hmm
[03:08] <cosonic> erUSUL: how do i activate all repos?
[03:08] <erUSUL> !tell cosonic about repos