[12:14] <webvictim> hmm
[12:15] <scast> Specially when I start it and have a few tabs open.
[12:15] <chemist109> onlineapps: I'm not sure what's wrong.
[12:15] <onlineapps> k
[12:15] <onlineapps> well, maybe i should call optimum
[12:15] <chemist109> Do you have a dhcp server on that line?
[12:15] <onlineapps> well
[12:16] <cpk1> onlineapps: is the computer connected to a router?
[12:16] <webvictim> scast: it's certainly faster than konq on here
[12:16] <onlineapps> cpk1: yes, its connected wirelessly to a router
[12:16] <onlineapps> (linksys)
[12:16] <onlineapps> whats funny is that we have about 6 computers
[12:16] <onlineapps> 4 connect
[12:16] <chemist109> onlineapps: Is there a wire connected.  We're working on the wired connection.
[12:16] <onlineapps> 2 dont
[12:16] <onlineapps> no
[12:16] <cpk1> oh, then you wouldnt be using eth0 since thats the wired connection
[12:16] <onlineapps> both computers that dont connect are wireless
[12:16] <chemist109> Well, that explains that.
[12:16] <onlineapps> ok
[12:17] <onlineapps> let me try connecting via ath0
[12:17] <scast> webvictim: I guess it's definetely something on my side then.
[12:17] <cpk1> onlineapps: do lshw and pastebin the output of that
[12:17] <chemist109> onlineapps: It's much more difficult troubleshooting wireless.  Do you have the networkmanager running?
[12:17] <chemist109> knetworkmanager
[12:17] <onlineapps> chemist109: yes, knetworkmanager is running
[12:17] <onlineapps> btw, ath0 is enabled
[12:18] <chemist109> does it show the wireless networks?
[12:18] <chemist109> does it show your router's wireless network?
[12:18] <onlineapps> chemist109: yes
[12:18] <onlineapps> it even connects
[12:18] <onlineapps> sort of
[12:18] <onlineapps> it reaches 79%
[12:18] <onlineapps> then fails
[12:19] <chemist109> Are you using encryption? (WEP, WPA)
[12:20] <onlineapps> chemist109: no
[12:20] <onlineapps> lshw pastebin coming up
[12:21] <onlineapps> http://pastebin.ca/469797
[12:21] <onlineapps> was run as normal user, then run as super user
[12:22] <chemist109> onlineapps: I don't think I can help you any further.  I don't have anything with wireless, so I don't know much about using it.
[12:22] <chemist109> sorry :(
[12:23] <onlineapps> chemist109: thats ok
[12:23] <onlineapps> i may just call optimum
[12:23] <chemist109> you might try in #ubuntu.
[12:23] <onlineapps> thats a good idea!
[12:23] <onlineapps> thanks all
[12:23] <cpk1> onlineapps: so you want to use wifi0 not ath0
[12:23] <onlineapps> ok
[12:24] <cpk1> ok I guess he didnt want help...
[12:24] <nuu> hey guys, does anybody else experience sluggish transfer speed with KFtpGrabber ?
[12:24] <nuu> as opposed to, say, ncftp on the same machine ?
[12:25] <chemist109> going home -- bye all.
[12:29] <EADG> nuu No diff on my box between Kftp and lftp either across home network or from the web.
[12:30] <nuu> EADG: by "Kftp" you mean kftpgrabber ?
[12:30] <EADG> nuu: Yep.
[12:30] <nuu> okay, thanks
[12:31] <nuu> this is really weird, then
[12:31] <nuu> i get 40-50k/s off one site, whereas i get 400+k/s off the same site, just using ncftp
[12:31] <nuu> i wonder what kicks in
[12:32] <nuu> ah well, can wait until tomorrow ;)
[12:32] <nuu> nite all
[12:37] <killermach_> how do I get the kernel to use my entire 4GB RAM?
[12:38] <caos> hi
[12:40] <bonbonthejon> hi caos
[12:40] <realshiva> hi, do i need to install codecs for vlc ? when i want to play svcd'S with it?
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> how much ram is it reporting if its short of the 4GB that you should have?
[12:43] <dogatemycomputer> (i'm not sure I can help.. i'm just curious)
[12:44] <realshiva> ok, my question was a bit dumb
[12:44] <realshiva> i had installed vlc
[12:44] <realshiva> apt-get install vlc
[12:44] <realshiva> do i need to install more than this to play svcd's ?
[12:45] <realshiva> (sry for my bad english its a bit rotten)
[12:45] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: I dont think so, does it work
[12:46] <realshiva> in detail i made this: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:46] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  .. you still there?
[12:47] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: have you tried playing the vcd?
[12:47] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: yep..
[12:47] <realshiva> yes, nothing heappens :-)
[12:47] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: 3.2GB
[12:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> I changed my icons in the panel, but is there any way to make them change in the system tray?
[12:48] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: I've never used a VCD, does it give a warning when you try to play the disc
[12:48] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  does this link help?
[12:49] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375853&page=2
[12:49] <realshiva> no, it seems that there is no film on it ... but on my dvd-player, it works
[12:50] <KamauRex> Hi all. Does anyone know how to solve the display problem since it locks my display at 640x480?
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:50] <KamauRex> I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[12:50] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: sorry, I've never used VCD
[12:50] <realshiva> hm
[12:51] <KamauRex> I'm a novice at all this how do I run the sudo thingy
[12:51] <nalioth> KamauRex: sudo [command]  <enter>
[12:51] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: reading now
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  otherwise I can't find anything to indicate it shouldn't recognize the full 4GB with the 64bit version of the OS..
[12:51] <nalioth> KamauRex: /msg ubotu kdesu  and /msg ubotu gksudo
[12:51] <dogatemycomputer> wait.. you are running the 64bit version.. right?
[12:51] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: open Konsole, and execute the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:52] <KamauRex> ok. Will try it now
[12:52] <realshiva> ahhh ... google is offline ...
[12:52] <realshiva> oh sry.
[12:52] <realshiva> it was my browser
[12:53] <KamauRex> says xserve.sorg not installed
[12:54] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ what version of the O/S r u running?
[12:54] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: xserver
[12:54] <sumguy231> KamauRex: xserver-xorg, rather.
[12:54] <KamauRex> ok
[12:54] <bonbonthejon> sumguy231: either should work
[12:54] <sumguy231> Why would xserve.sorg work?
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> sumguy231: xserver or xserver-xorg
[12:55] <sumguy231> Oh, I didn't see your comment up there. Sorry.
[12:55] <KamauRex> xserve.sorg not installed and no information available is the message
[12:55] <phpcode> Is it possible to run a file on user: root when im logged in on user: code. if yes: how?
[12:55] <realshiva> sudo ?#
[12:55] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: explain that better, I don't understand
[12:56] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: you are entering the wrong package, its xserver-xorg, not xserve.sorg
[12:56] <flowingfire> Hi.  Question: Does Kubuntu have a built-in program to make PDF files?  I need to make a PDF from a JPEG
[12:57] <KamauRex> sweet. Now I have a grey screen with a blue background
[12:57] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: better resolution?
[12:58] <KamauRex> still reading the drivers. Do I just choose any?
[12:58] <sumguy231> No, choose one for the graphics card you have.
[12:58] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: what card do you have?
[12:58] <KamauRex> I have an integrated Intel Agp
[12:59] <KamauRex> I think it is 82801 chipset
[12:59] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire I believe you need to install cups-pdf and configure it..  did you need a link?
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> flowingfire: there are ways you could do it, I dont know the best thoguh
[12:59] <flowingfire> Yeah, a link would be great!  Thanks
[12:59] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire let me find it..
[12:59] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: look for intel, or i think vesa is the generic driver
[12:59] <phpcode> bonbonthejon: i have not the promition to edit and save a file(sources.list) on my user but i dont want to change user.
[12:59] <KamauRex> let me try the vesa since I cannot see the intel
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: hit ctrl-f2, then type that in
[01:00] <dogatemycomputer> flowingfire try this.. if it doesn't work for you then just type "cups-pdf kubuntu" into google.  its a well covered topic.  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[01:00] <flowingfire> dogatemycomputer: Thank you so much!
[01:01] <KamauRex> do I just close the konsole after choosing?
[01:02] <KamauRex> I've hit enter
[01:02] <bonbonthejon> KamauRex: it should get back to a prompt, then you can close it
[01:02] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I currently have 64bit installed, and I see all 4GB.. but a 32bit install shows 3.2GB
[01:03] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: but the 64bit has issues with flash plugin and more things.. so I'm going back to the 32bit version
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  if there isn't something specific you need then stick with the 32 bit version for now.
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ i've personally never seen anyone that needed the 32bit version..
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> except maybe support for the full 4gb of ram?
[01:04] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ 32bit O/S packages can only recognize 3.25GB.. its not a limitation of linux..
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> !wmv
[01:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:06] <sebaduo> hi
[01:06] <bonbonthejon> hi sebaduo
[01:07] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  I'm sorry.. I mean.. i've never met anyone that needed the 64bit version..
[01:08] <dogatemycomputer> Daisuke_Ido  i'm not sure i've ever met anyone who sucked up even 3GB of ram with a linux distro.. much less 4GB..  (not to say there aren't apps that need it.. but they are usually designed for 64bit O/Ss rather than 32bit)
[01:08] <ns8> hello
[01:08] <bonbonthejon> hi ns8
[01:08] <ns8> hola
[01:08] <dogatemycomputer> Daisuke_Ido for example.. if you're running a video editing operation then you may want a 64bit version for edting files.. but you're probably not going to use that same system to, for example, surf the web..
[01:09] <ns8> my eglish is bad
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> dogatemycomputer: exactly
[01:09] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I have Athlon64 AM2 dualcore 3800+ so I thought I'd try 64bit OS, not sure I need it either
[01:09] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  there is a small performance improvement but doesn't do much good when many apps don't work well on it.
[01:10] <KamauRex> I'm going to set the resolution then restart my comp to see if it works
[01:10] <KamauRex> Thanks guys for all the help. Hope I can return the favour when I get good at this
[01:10] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: I've had a 4GB kernel for my mandriva workstation.. checking kernel.org now
[01:11] <phpcode> how do i login as root and edit sources.list?
[01:12] <bonbonthejon> phpcode: hit ctrl-f2, then run kdesu kate /etc/aptsources.list
[01:12] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  if you find another solution then please post it..
[01:12] <bonbonthejon> sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <LHoT> beryl problems
[01:13] <LHoT> and #beryl is dead
[01:13] <LHoT> and if i hold my shift key to long, it logs me out
[01:14] <LHoT> :(
[01:14] <ns8> i've a averatec 7100 series and my network card is not recognized
[01:14] <ns8> helpe please
[01:14] <ns8> *help me please
[01:14] <bonbonthejon> ns8: wireless or ethernet
[01:14] <ns8> i have kubuntu i38
[01:14] <ns8> ethernet
[01:15] <ns8> note: I do not understand much the English
[01:16] <bonbonthejon> !es > ns8
[01:16] <KamauRex> Thanks again. Laters
[01:19] <ns8> yes i speack spanish
[01:19] <dogatemycomputer> LHoT that's interesting..
[01:19] <LHoT> it sucks too
[01:19] <sumguy231> ns8: Do an lspci and tell us if you see any mention of your card. And then do an ifconfig and see if there is an eth0 or eth1 interface.
[01:19] <bonbonthejon> is the bot not working??
[01:19] <realshiva> #ubuntu-es
[01:19] <sumguy231> But since there apparently is a Spanish channel, then never mind I suppose.
[01:19] <comosicus> i cant recevied ani file on my kopete
[01:20] <LHoT> !lol
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <comosicus> recived
[01:20] <LHoT> :|
[01:20] <dogatemycomputer> well.. shift-backspace logs you off.. right?
[01:20] <realshiva> ^^
[01:20] <bonbonthejon> !botsnack
[01:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:20] <LHoT> hmmmm
[01:20] <realshiva> does apt-get moo work on ubuntu?
[01:20] <LHoT> maybe im pressing backspace on accident
[01:20] <bonbonthejon> realshiva: yes
[01:21] <realshiva> cool
[01:21] <soulrider__> !es | ns8
[01:21] <ubotu> ns8: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <bonbonthejon> soulrider__: ahhh, wrong pipe character
[01:22] <dogatemycomputer> LHoT  that's why I asked.. sounds like either you're keyboard is malfunctioning or you're hitting something else?  I think you can disable that combination in the accessibility options.. did you need help finding the keybindings menu?
[01:22] <ns8> what is a lspci?
[01:23] <sumguy231> It lists pci devices.
[01:23] <dogatemycomputer> ns8   http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_lspci.htm
[01:23] <ns8> but i have a laptop
[01:23] <ns8> my network card is integrated
[01:23] <dogatemycomputer> ns8  it still depends on a PCI bus..  even if that bus is.. well.. smaller :)
[01:23] <comosicus> or something else.......do you know a chat program wich has a voice chat propriety?
[01:24] <mzanfardino> I've recently installed kubuntu feisty and find now that a few applications are loading that I don't want to load each and everytime I log into the system.  Where can I find a list of the applications that get loaded automagically (I've already looking in .kde/Autostart, but the programs that are loading are not listed there)?
[01:24] <soulrider__> !ntfs-3g
[01:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:25] <soulrider__> ns8: lspci will list pci devices i think
[01:25] <sumguy231> mzanfardino: It could just be resuming your previous KDE session, check K-> System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager.
[01:25] <comosicus> i whant to know what chat do i must to use to be able to use a voice chat
[01:25] <dogatemycomputer> i learn so much by hanging around in here..
[01:26] <dogatemycomputer> lspci lists alot of information..
[01:26] <soulrider__> !es | ns8
[01:26] <ubotu> ns8: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:26] <dogatemycomputer> pretty much everything you would ever want to know about your PCI bus and everything attached..
[01:26] <comosicus> no shit doga
[01:27] <realshiva> do someone know something about a terminal connection about the serial port ?
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> lol  .. hey.. i'm still learning..
[01:27] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2450?page=1
[01:27] <dogatemycomputer> i find some of the most mundane stuff interesting right about now..
[01:28] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ thanks.. im reading now..
[01:29] <acidBURN> is there a link for setting up ati x600 vid card, for max performances under kubuntu?
[01:29] <sumguy231> acidBURN: I'm too lazy to link, but the Ubuntu Wiki has a good article on proprietary video drivers.
[01:30] <comosicus> i whant to know what chat do i must to use to be able to use a voice chat
[01:30] <realshiva> comosicus: teamspeak / skype ect.
[01:31] <comosicus> thanks man
[01:33] <LinkCanabico> Alarm hi did you get the USB hardrive working
[01:36] <naught101> anyone know how to get shockwave working in firefox?
[01:36] <naught101> ie. shockwave, not flash.
[01:36] <Mena> !shockwave
[01:36] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[01:39] <killermach_> dogatemycomputer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375853 post #2 shows "mem=4096M" as kernel parameter
[01:40] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_ would you mind testing that and letting me know if it works?  I'd also be curious if there is any performance improvement?
[01:44] <dogatemycomputer> killermach_  i'll be online tomorrow if you happen to be around
[01:48] <comosicus> that skype it is working just with skype users?
[01:49] <erstazi> does KDE have synaptic?
[01:49] <Cosmo_> anyone know of a good voice dictation software for ubuntu that works with open office?
[01:50] <baudthief> I know this might sound a bit silly, but should I install an antivirus?
[01:50] <comosicus> cosmo...what that means?
[01:51] <Search4Lancer> comosicus: talk into the mic and the compy types for you
[01:51] <Search4Lancer> erstazi: you can install synaptic in Adept in KDE
[01:52] <Search4Lancer> or, you know, however else
[01:52] <comosicus> aaaaa
[01:53] <Whiz2_> just a quick question...
[01:53] <Whiz2_> is Linux secure enough that I can safely assign it as DMZ on my network?
[01:54] <demon^eye> lo
[01:54] <erstazi> Whiz2_, what do you consider secure?
[01:54] <erstazi> Whiz2_, imho, windows is _insecure_
[01:54] <demon^eye> what is the system req for this linux?
[01:54] <Whiz2_> can hackers get into it as easily as windows?
[01:55] <erstazi> Whiz2_, no
[01:55] <comosicus> that skype it is working just with skype users?
[01:55] <demon^eye> lol in order to hack in linux u have to know more stuff than winXP
[01:56] <Whiz2_> like the username for example lol
[01:56] <demon^eye> what are the sys req to run kubuntu ?
[01:56] <sumguy231> demon^eye: What, do you want some system requirements for Kubuntu? What are you asking?
[01:56] <sumguy231> Oh, never mind.
[01:56] <sumguy231> You'll want at least 128MB of ram and probably at least a 900MHz processor.
[01:56] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : the min they req pal
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> nope, 256
[01:57] <demon^eye> 128 mb and 900...? they come close to windows lol
[01:57] <sumguy231> I've seen it scoot by on 128MB< just not well.
[01:57] <demon^eye> owww 256....even clooser
[01:57] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i'm running a 400MHz CPU on mine
[01:57] <sumguy231> You will want 256 to run it effeciently. The CPU requirements can be lower.
[01:57] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : u run 7.4 on 400 cpu?
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> right, its 256 mb for the live CD
[01:58] <Whiz2_> no 6.x
[01:58] <dogatemycomputer> the MINIMUM system requirements are 128MB and 110MB of RAM (assuming you don't want to do anything but install the OS)
[01:58] <demon^eye> 6X
[01:58] <sumguy231> If your system is really old, look at Xubuntu or try installing Fluxbox.
[01:58] <Whiz2_> i'm not upgrading
[01:58] <Whiz2_> or changing my OS version
[01:58] <Whiz2_> i'm satisfied with what i get from it
[01:58] <demon^eye> yeha Xubuntu is less harware sucker lol
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[01:58] <dogatemycomputer> I guess the question is..  what would you want to install it on that you're asking about the minimum requirements? :-D
[01:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:59] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : u right
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> just realized that...
[01:59] <Whiz2_> demon^eye: i'm right about what?
[01:59] <demon^eye> about u satisfied syff whiz2
[01:59] <demon^eye> hehe
[01:59] <sumguy231> You'll also want about 2 GB of disk space, I believe. But that shouldn't be a problem.  Just to throw that out here.
[02:02] <demon^eye> lol
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> demon^eye: watch your language please
[02:02] <Whiz2_> well my topic is still in question... how easy is it for hackers to get into my linux installation? i'm asking because i have it completely exposed to the internet
[02:03] <demon^eye> any ops here? cant see the "@" stuff
[02:03] <demon^eye> hehe
[02:03] <Whiz2_> on a broadband connection no less
[02:03] <demon^eye> some ppl says...linux is more secure coz less use it
[02:03] <demon^eye> compre to MS stuff
[02:03] <demon^eye> *compare
[02:03] <sumguy231> Whiz2_: I'm sure you'll be fine. If you're concerned, use a firewall.
[02:03] <dogatemycomputer> there is a tool in *KUBUNTU* (still on topic here ;) ) that will do a port scan and tell you what's listening..
[02:04] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: doesn't a firewall have the potential to block out my services?
[02:04] <demon^eye> the problem with lunux...when u want to run specual progy like QBASE and some other uniqs...
[02:04] <LHoT> hello
[02:05] <LHoT> I need to add stuff to start at startup
[02:05] <LHoT> how would I go about doing that
[02:05] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i need ppl to be able to get to my website via port 80, and my email via SMTP/POP ports
[02:05] <Whiz2_> not to mention the fact that I sshtunnel, and vnc into it myself
[02:05] <sumguy231> Whiz2_: Yes, if you told it to block those services. It might be more trouble than it's worth. I have a Debian server and I don't really bother with one myself.
[02:05] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: what stuff?
[02:06] <dogatemycomputer> I don't use a firewall either..
[02:06] <Whiz2_> and you ppl don't get hacked?
[02:06] <sumguy231> Nope.
[02:06] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : what is your debian server for pal?
[02:06] <Whiz2_> i'mjust curious cuz i've never expose linux to the net like this
[02:06] <sumguy231> Personal use, and learning how to run a server. It's not important, hence the lack of a firewall.
[02:06] <Whiz2_> and my server has access to my other computers as well
[02:06] <LHoT> hey, any help?
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i just asked you. what "Stuff" do you mean
[02:07] <sumguy231> KDE startup or system startup?
[02:07] <demon^eye> Whiz2_ : no wory expose linux to the net ...not much ppl try t fuck around with NIX box lol
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> because stuff not a specific pronoun
[02:07] <Whiz2_> please watch your language, this channel is supposd to be famil friendly
[02:07] <Whiz2_> family*
[02:07] <LHoT> okay then
[02:08] <demon^eye> sorry
[02:08] <demon^eye> :)
[02:08] <LHoT> kde startup
[02:08] <sumguy231> demon^eye: I get plenty of exploit attempts, but they're all for old software or software I'm not running anyway. And I try to maintain my hosts.deny.
[02:08] <demon^eye> just a way of spech
[02:08] <LHoT> need to add beryl-manager
[02:08] <sharms> dude my car is sooo fast
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sharms: haha
[02:08] <LHoT> okay
[02:08] <LHoT> also
[02:08] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: i'm guessing they would need to know my username/password to get in right?
[02:08] <LHoT> to get beryl working
[02:09] <Whiz2_> sumguy231: and whatever ports i use to connect
[02:09] <LHoT> i need to run some commands in terminal, how do I make it do that at startup
[02:09] <demon^eye> sumguy231 : thoos are most kiddos who run security progy scan the net...actuley seeking for MS lame ass pcs hehe
[02:09] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: make a script, chmod the command, add the script to autostart.
[02:09] <Whiz2_> ok well my question was answered sufficiently. I'm out of here
[02:10] <LHoT> over my head there
[02:10] <nixternal> LHoT: what is the script for?
[02:10] <LHoT> one month linux experiance
[02:10] <demon^eye> will try to VM this kubuntu
[02:10] <LHoT> getting the window decorator to work
[02:10] <demon^eye> anyoone try VM kubuntu btw?
[02:10] <LHoT> it doesnt like to start when beryl does
[02:10] <sumguy231> LHoT: Just make a file called 'berylstart' or something, put '#!/bin/bash' for the first line, 'beryl-manager &' for the second line, and run 'chmod +x berylstart'.
[02:11] <demon^eye> admiral maybe u mate?
[02:11] <LHoT> ...
[02:11] <LHoT> again
[02:11] <LHoT> nvm
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: what commands do you run? pastebin them if there are a lot
[02:11] <Admiral_Chicago> demon^eye: i refuse to answer that question because its offtopic
[02:11] <LHoT> its only two
[02:12] <LHoT> and Im not sure if the second one would be needed for startup
[02:12] <sumguy231> What is it?
[02:12] <LHoT> hey admiral, cubs or sox?
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i'd just do "cd ~/.kde/Autostart && touch berylstart.sh && nano berylstart.sh"
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> then put the two commands in there
[02:13] <LHoT> k
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> can't remember the chmod command...
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: i think thats followed by chmod 777 berylstart.sh
[02:17] <demon^eye> Admiral_Chicago : are u OP here pal?
[02:17] <demon^eye> just wounder:)
[02:19] <demon^eye> what is kubuntu what we call activeX
[02:19] <demon^eye> ?
[02:22] <JOSE_KAY> hola
[02:23] <JOSE_KAY> necesito ayuda con beryl
[02:23] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[02:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:23] <JOSE_KAY> perdon,,,,,,,,gracias
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> de nada
[02:29] <demon^eye>
[02:33] <chris_> can anyone offer a quick suggestion for how to get amarok under kubuntu to play mp3?
[02:34] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | chris_
[02:34] <ubotu> chris_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:34] <wolferine> my sound just stopped
[02:34] <wolferine> was listening to music, and it just died
[02:34] <Arwen> chris_, by the way, MP3 is ancient technology, use a modern format... geez..
[02:34] <chris_> arwen: I tried the howto, but I can't get the extracodecs package to install.
[02:34] <Arwen> chris_, and why is that?
[02:35] <chris_> arwen: tell apple that.
[02:35] <Arwen> chris_, Apple promotes the use of MPEG-4 AAC...
[02:35] <Arwen> which, incidentally, is NOT MP3 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3)
[02:35] <chris_> then why are the files on it from itunes in mpe?
[02:35] <chris_> mp3 rahter.
[02:35] <wolferine> now I get the error: "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard."
[02:35] <Arwen> chris_, err, iTunes uses DRM'ed AAC as the default format
[02:35] <Gamic> itunes songs are aac
[02:35] <SubOne> can someone please tell me why  the update manager just uninstalled my apache?
[02:35] <Arwen> and iTunes sucks....
[02:35] <chris_> er, no it doesn't.
[02:36] <Arwen> err, yes it does
[02:36] <chris_> or at least, that copy doesn't *points at the other pc*
[02:36] <Arwen> chris_, http://www.google.com/search?q=itunes+default+format&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[02:36] <chris_> maybe on a mac it does?
[02:36] <Gamic> there are drm free mp3 versions of some songs on itunes, but they are rare
[02:36] <Arwen> it doesn't.... anyway, that has nothing to do with MP3
[02:36] <Arwen> chris_, so, why can't you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:37] <Andrepose> Hello, How do i get a network card running when it appears in lspci but not in ifconfig?
[02:37] <chris_> right, never mind.  you know, I wasn't looking for a) criticism of the format b) someone to lecture me on what format iTunes on my windows box produces (defaulted to mp3, aac as an option as it happens, I just checked), nor was I really looking to have a google search about itunes tossed at me.
[02:38] <Arwen> Andrepose, get some better drivers?
[02:38] <Arwen> chris_, that's what I just said.... why can't you install libxine-extracodecs?
[02:38] <Andrepose> i have two of the same card in my machine.  THe first one works eth0 the second one I can't remember how to set it up..
[02:38] <chris_> arwen: leave me be thanks.
[02:38] <Arwen> huh, have a nice day then....
[02:39] <chris_> if anyone else has an answer as to what repository might have the extracodecs in it (I get a "no installation candidate"), that'd be appreciated.
[02:39] <Gamic> chris_ it's in universe, I believe
[02:39] <Arwen> !repositories | chris_
[02:39] <ubotu> chris_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:39] <jtca> Hi! How to install gimp in kubuntu?
[02:39] <chris_> gamic: thanks! :)
[02:39] <Arwen> chris_, I'm only gonna point that out once, if you're too arrogant to listen to my advice, then god die already
[02:40] <jtca> I've already tried sudo apt-get install gimp...
[02:40] <chris_> arrogance is a 2-sided issue.  you're condescending and confrontational.  if you worked in tech support at any of the places I have, you'd be canned for answering questions like that.
[02:40] <wolferine> jtca, and what happened?
[02:40] <SubOne> Does anyone know why the update manager just uninstalled apache2, php4, and a few other things? When I canceled the uninstall for php4 an install for php 5 popped up n the list so i decided to cancel my changes and update normally, but now i have no apache at all. Obviously I can solve this by reinstalling, but why has this happened in the first place?
[02:40] <chris_> you're also ignored.  thanks again, gamic. :)
[02:40] <Arwen> jtca, that is indeed the right command, did you do "apt-get update" first?
[02:41] <Gamic> chris_ arwen, leave it please. not needed ;)
[02:41] <wolferine> SubOne, you must have set it to uninstall them, at some point
[02:41] <wolferine> not realizing it
[02:41] <wolferine> stop asking why it did it, and just reinstall
[02:42] <kane_> Hey i have a network that should be 100mbps capable is there a reason that an internal network transfer would be going much, much slower?
[02:42] <jtca> arwen: the package is missing.
[02:42] <Arwen> kane_, overhead
[02:42] <Arwen> jtca, what's the exact error message?
[02:42] <kane_> like it would reduce the speed about 90%?
[02:43] <SubOne> wolferine: I never did and I never would
[02:43] <kane_> thats a good bit of overhead huh?
[02:43] <Arwen> kane_, bad link? a really crappy server software?
[02:43] <wolferine> ok SubOne just install it again
[02:43] <Gamic> kane_ : there are loads of reasons, bottle necks could be occuring at any point in your system and your network and without a detailed diagram of what you have we couldn't even come close to saying for certain.
[02:43] <kane_> its just 2 ubuntu boxes right next to each other on an with an ssh transfer
[02:43] <jtca> arwen: sorry, but the message is in portuguese, but the main idea is the package isn't there.
[02:43] <SubOne> wolferine: I have had problems in the past with packages mysteriously getting uninstalled without the updater too
[02:44] <kane_> and a router, of course.
[02:44] <wolferine> SubOne, I am sure you have, but to resolve your issues, maybe just try and install it
[02:44] <Arwen> jtca, hmm, run "apt-get update"... if that doesn't work, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:44] <Gamic> kane_, what speed are you getting?
[02:45] <wolferine> lol
[02:45] <kane_> 1.6 MB/S
[02:47] <jtca> arwen: Ahahahahahaha! pastebin query failure! I'm a loser!
[02:47] <SubOne> wolferine: I'm just a bit tired of everyone telling me how to fix the symptom if you know what i mean
[02:47] <Arwen> jtca, hehe, try http://pastebin.ca then
[02:47] <vit_> KUBUNTU.ES
[02:47] <mardi> mmm coffee
[02:48] <wolferine> SubOne, you might not know it, but I know exactly what you mean
[02:48] <jtca> arwen: http://pastebin.ca/470020
[02:49] <Arwen> jtca, hmm, I can't see anything wrong.... ah well, if it doesn't work later, go over to #ubuntu and complain
[02:50] <jtca> I can't complain. Free software is a bless. I will ask and suggest.
[02:50] <jtca> arwen: thanks a lot!
[02:50] <vit_> I NEED TO SPEAK SPANISH
[02:51] <mardi> !es | vit_
[02:51] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:54] <drkns> hello friends
[02:54] <drkns> i need help
[02:55] <chris_> greetings
[02:55] <drkns> i am tryint to compile pygtk
[02:55] <drkns>  and its giving me this error sayin i have both glib 2.0 smtg and 2.13 smtg so i should get rid of the old version
[02:56] <drkns> the problem is when i try to uninstall the old glib the whole system is uninstalled also
[02:56] <drkns> how can i make the compilation see the correct version of glib?
[02:57] <drkns> anyone?
[02:58] <drkns> or is there a way that i can update db of adept so that i can see the glib 2.13.0 installation that i can remove?
[03:00] <drkns> noone?
[03:00] <mardi> if no help here drkns, maybe try in #linuxhelp or #pygtk
[03:01] <mardi> if no help here drkns, maybe try in #linuxhelp or #pygtk
[03:03] <dsmith_> :)
[03:06] <kane_> Huh, the crazy thing about this sorta slow network transfer is that i can open up 2 at the same time and they both cap out at like 1.6
[03:07] <mardi> possible setting in ssh?
[03:07] <mardi> <-- newb
[03:07] <tabr> hi! everyone! Help me please! I can`t check for errors partition (need to re-install GRUB[i think] ) boot from LiveCD. Ubuntu 7.04[herd5] . When type #fsck. i see:fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006). and thats all, that he do...
[03:13] <tinin> tabr get the stable release
[03:13] <tinin> not herd
[03:18] <orient2000> Hi! I am trying to install crossover and cannot run install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh in konsole.
[03:18] <orient2000> I can not run any .sh script at all.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: what happens when you try?
[03:19] <orient2000> I can not run any .sh script at all in konsole. How do I run scripts?
 yeah, a dowload that 'stable' release - CD,Althernative,DVD,CD[x64]  - thay all can't see CD-drive after start, - i install HERD5, and upgrade...hmm..i upgrade to realise?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: Generally, ./script-name.sh, from the directory it's in
[03:21] <orient2000> bash: install-crossover-pro-5.0.3.sh: command not found
[03:22] <tinin_> tabr no clue
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: sounds like you need to set the executable bit.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> chmod +x install-<tab>
[03:23] <matrix__> does any body of you use joost?
[03:23] <tabr>  <tinin>  and i 'kill' GRUB...found how to repair...but when mount /dev/sda8 - it's EMPTY....and i need the way how to repair filesystem....i think...
[03:24] <orient2000> in setup of sesion there is bash. Shuld I type sh ?
[03:25] <tinin_> maybe you coul try some software to save things like photorec
[03:25] <tinin_> if you need to
[03:25] <tinin_> and then a partitioning tool
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> orient2000: I'm not sure I understand
[03:26] <tinin_> tabr http://www.cgsecurity.org/
 thanks...i'll try...
[03:31] <Andrepose> Can someone help me with my network card problem?
[03:32] <Andrepose> I have two network cards on my ubuntu server with the same driver, one comes up at boot and the other one doesn't though it's not plugged in....
[03:32] <N6REJ> anyone got any idea what would cause ascii graphics characters to be shown instead of plain text during bootup?
[03:32] <N6REJ> it MIGHT be related to a partial vmware-server install
[03:32] <Andrepose> how do i bring it up.
[03:32] <Andrepose> ?
[03:33] <levon> uplink here?
[03:33] <Andrepose> it appears in lspci. But not in ifconfig,,,
[03:39] <mike> Can someone help me with installing Java? i dont understand how to do it, and a website isnt going to help me
[03:41] <mike> hello someone?
[03:42] <tinin_> thanx for my feity cds they arrivred today
[03:43] <tinin_> ubuntuguide mike
[03:44] <tinin_> or just search java in the pakage manager you use
[03:44] <mike> Package Manager?
[03:44] <mardi> are you using linux mike?
[03:45] <mike> Kubunto
[03:45] <tinin_> in add/remove programs
[03:45] <mike> **Kubuntu
[03:45] <mike> Edgy 6.10
[03:45] <wimpies> Hi all, I read somewhere that Gtk+ allows changing menu accelerators by hovering the menu and setting a new value.  I tried this but in KDE it does not work.  What might I be doing wrong ?
[03:45] <BellaireLinuxN3r> use Adept
[03:45] <phpcode> How to get dualscreen? (i have the screens)
[03:45] <orient2000> Thanks it is working chmod +x
[03:46] <mardi> mike: hit the K in the bottom right, goto System then Adept Package Manager
[03:46] <pbang> Hey all, I'm trying to test different options in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  How can I restart x/kde to test changes?
[03:46] <mardi> mike: err, the K on the bottom left...
[03:46] <BellaireLinuxN3r> the K system menu
[03:46] <mardi> that's it!
[03:46] <tinin_> dont be cruel
[03:47] <mike> okay then what
[03:47] <mardi> tinin_: me?
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> go to System
[03:47] <tinin_> search there
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> then Adept Package Manager
[03:47] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it should be the top most option, the one with an icon shaped like an open box
[03:47] <mike> theres like, alot of different choices for java
[03:48] <mike> I just want java so i can install Limewire or Frostwire
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> get the Runtime
[03:48] <mike> runtime?
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> there's an SDK
[03:48] <mike> whats that?
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> it's for developers
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you want the package
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that would give you just the enviroment
[03:48] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I don't know exactly the name tho
[03:49] <mike> So under the search bar type in Runtime Java?
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> It should be the JRE
[03:49] <phpcode> How to get dualscreen?
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Hello I am somewhat new to linux and have a question about multiple installs.
[03:49] <mike> Nothing came up
[03:49] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try JRE
[03:50] <ubuntu_> Is it possible for me to install 4 versions of linux with one /boot folder and swap ?
[03:50] <mike> i see alot of different options
[03:50] <BellaireLinuxN3r> okay
[03:50] <ubuntu_> really?
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike, the JRE recent version should be 6.0
[03:51] <mike> Sun Java(TM)Runtime Environment(JRE) 6
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:51] <BellaireLinuxN3r> that is the one
[03:51] <melkor> I have a problem with how my hard drive is mounted.  It is being mounted as sda1
[03:51] <mardi> on mine it's called libgcj-common
[03:51] <ubuntu_> did anyone see my question?
[03:51] <mardi> dunno if that's what mike needs tho
[03:52] <mike> so right-click "request Install"?
[03:52] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:52] <mike> then apply changes right?
[03:52] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yes
[03:53] <mike> okay its downloading
[03:53] <fsilva> en espaol?
[03:53] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: saw your question, I think you can but only with the alternate cd
[03:53] <mardi> !es | fsilva
[03:53] <ubotu> fsilva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:54] <melkor> I am going to past the mount msg I get
[03:54] <fsilva> gracias
[03:54] <melkor> ' /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)'
[03:54] <ubuntu_> what is an alternate cd?
[03:55] <melkor> does anybody think that could lead to problems?
[03:55] <fulat2k> i'm amazed how much beryl has improved in 7.04 :)
[03:55] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: it's for special installs, like LVM or if you're a linux expert and you can work the command line
[03:55] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: With the live cd you probably can't get that config
[03:56] <melkor> hono mba daa
[03:56] <melkor> jaa rama
[03:57] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: I'm not an expert with the alternate cd; you also risk having problems along the line if packages fail to install, something goes horribly wrong, etc, etc
[03:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: personally, I would just go with seperate partitions for each install if your hard drive is large enough
[03:58] <mike> okay now i have Sun Java 6.0 installed
[03:58] <ubuntu_> i was reading this article do you think this will work? http://linuxgazette.net/issue76/tag/5.html
[03:58] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: and then use grub to choose each individual install
[03:58] <fulat2k> you can always install using a root partition of prolly 10-15G and then create LVM partitions after that.
[03:58] <mike> how do i install frostwire
[03:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: heh, not an expert at that, however
[03:59] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: u might need to manually download the package and then install it
[03:59] <mike> oh
[04:00] <mike> is there any real easy way to install it?
[04:00] <mike> I hate, i mean seriosuly hate the terminal
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> just download the package
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> once it's done
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> right click
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> and then select Action > Install
[04:00] <BellaireLinuxN3r> no need for the terminal :)
[04:00] <mike> okay good
[04:01] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: probably
[04:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: but if you want windows on there, make sure you install windows first
[04:02] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: otherwise you won't be able to boot to Linux since the windows boot loader overwrites grub
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i have 3 on there seperate atm w/ windows but the /boot partitions eat a bit of space
[04:03] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: as I said, not really an expert on this kinda config
[04:03] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: if you know your terminal commands well and such, go ahead and try it
[04:04] <ubuntu_> k
[04:04] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: download the alternate cd tho
[04:04] <mike> when i download ikt
[04:04] <mike> *it, where does it go?
[04:04] <mike> i cant find it anywhere
[04:04] <ubuntu_> what is the alternate cd and where is it bell?
[04:04] <BellaireLinuxN3r> go to the ubuntu download page
[04:04] <mike> Kate opens, and it says it cant save it because a binery code is corrupt
[04:05] <tabr> tell me please why a can't enything im my mount root partition?...
[04:05] <dsmith_> if I have shell script, whats the best way to create a shortcut for it?
[04:05] <BellaireLinuxN3r> ubuntu_: scroll down to the bottom of the page
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> click the checkbox that says "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> and then it should download the iso for you
[04:06] <joshua__> ubuntu_: hold down shift when clicking
[04:06] <mike> Ubuntu Download page?
[04:06] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh not you mike
[04:07] <mike> oh
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: download it again
[04:07] <mike> so what do i do?
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: save to dekstop
[04:07] <mike> how do i save it to my desktop? it dosent ask me like windows
[04:07] <joshua__> if kate tries to open it, hold down shift.  this will automatically force you to save it.
[04:07] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: right click, save as
[04:07] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what is going on here ?   http://nationalreview.com    i get a good page until it finishes loading and then it goes blank.    ???
[04:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: make sure you get the ubuntu/debian download
[04:08] <intelikey> using the word "good" very liberally
[04:08] <BellaireLinuxN3r> mike: the extension should be .deb
[04:08] <mike> lol duh save as... lol
[04:09] <BellaireLinuxN3r> Does anybody in here have problems with Kubuntu shutting down? As in, the system halts, but the computer doesn't *physically* shut down?
[04:09] <mike> umm im confused
[04:10] <mike> on my desktop it says "php" thats what the file is
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[04:10] <mike> when i right-click and under actions, there isnt a install option
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> okay, you're downloading the webpage...
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmm
[04:10] <mike> oh
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> when you click on the download button
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> what does the browser do?
[04:10] <BellaireLinuxN3r> is it Firefox or Konqueror?
[04:11] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r kernel issue.  the system call for a power down is not the same on all bios's (bioi ?)   you may have one of the few that need a different system call.
[04:11] <mike> Konqueror
[04:11] <mike> should i try it with Firefox
[04:12] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: thanks. Is there a way for me to change the system call? Actually, I was thinking the same thing, my BIOS is 7 years old and the hardware is severely outdated.
[04:13] <mardi> i think mike is having a Kate bug I had before, where Kate tries to open certain file types, it's really annoying
[04:14] <intelikey> BellaireLinuxN3r i'm not sure if it requires a recompile or not.  you can ask in  ##linux  ##linuxhelp or #kernel     if no one in here can answer.   there is also  #ubuntu  seeing that that is not kde specific
[04:14] <mike> i dont understand why it cant be as easy as windows to install somthing
[04:14] <dsmith_> yay I figured it out
[04:14] <joshua__> mike: you could download the torrent
[04:14] <BellaireLinuxN3r> intelikey: thanks!
[04:15] <intelikey> mike it is.  maybe more so.    it depends on what you are trying to install    (both os's)
[04:15] <mike> oh
[04:17] <mike> ive always had trouble installing somthing...in fact i've had it for 3 months and still never dowloaded one program
[04:21] <mike> BellaireLinuxN3r: i downloaded Frostwire and the file is a deb. file, and when i right click and go to actions, installing isnt an optnio
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmmm
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> really?
[04:21] <mike> yeah
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I must be thinking of fonts or something
[04:21] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try just opening it
[04:22] <mike> Ark opens up
[04:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> hmmm
[04:22] <BellaireLinuxN3r> huh weird
[04:22] <joshua__> ok, i want to send private messages, does anybody know how to register?  the site's instructions are way to hard to understand.
[04:23] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: do this "/msg nickserv <password>" in your terminal window, not in a channel
[04:24] <joshua__> no such file or directory
[04:24] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: the IRC client terminal window :)
[04:24] <mike> BellaireLinuxN3r: Okay i see, it says Kubuntu Package Menu, and then install...
[04:24] <BellaireLinuxN3r> try that
[04:25] <intelikey> mike if the pointy clicky thingy doesn't do it. use the real linux.    sudo dpkg -i filename.deb     but did you look in the repos first?    :)
[04:25] <intelikey> !info frostwire
[04:25] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:25] <mike> but when the window comes up
[04:25] <mike> Home 	Home 	Downloads 	Downloads 	Community 	Community 	Development 	Development 	Support 	Support
[04:25] <mike>
[04:25] <mike> Keep our project development alive!
[04:25] <mike>
[04:25] <intelikey> guess not.
[04:25] <joshua__> it says it's already registered
[04:25] <mike> Okay that didnt work
[04:26] <mike> intelikey: Repos?"
[04:26] <joshua__> do i need a different name?
[04:26] <intelikey> i just checked.
[04:26] <BellaireLinuxN3r> joshua__: yeah then you probably need to change your name
[04:27] <jrick> ok, that it?
[04:27] <intelikey> !repos | mike information about repositories,
[04:27] <ubotu> mike information about repositories,: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:27] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: then do the same command I told you and see if that would register you
[04:28] <jrick> I think so, now what? test to see if it works?
[04:28] <mike> Umm....using the sudo dpkg -i filename.deb dosent work
[04:28] <intelikey> mike     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:28] <intelikey> what error ?
[04:28] <mike> yea
[04:28] <BellaireLinuxN3r> jrick: try logging off and logging in and see if it identifies you
 Umm....using the sudo dpkg -i filename.deb dosent work <<<< <intelikey> what error ?
[04:29] <jrick> ok
[04:29] <jrick> I think it worked
[04:29] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah, I think it did
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> otherwise freenode would boot you off and give you some guest nick
[04:30] <jrick> it said on the site about emailing???
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> oh
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> yeah
[04:30] <BellaireLinuxN3r> you should register your email so that if you lose your password you can get it back
[04:30] <jrick> oh.
[04:30] <mike> no such file or directory
[04:32] <mike> intelikey: No such file or directory
[04:32] <intelikey> path.
[04:33] <mike> what>
[04:33] <mike> *What?
[04:33] <intelikey> i.e. you saved it to your desktop not to your home.
[04:33] <mike> right
[04:33] <intelikey> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/<filename>.deb
[04:33] <intelikey> notice the path  ^
[04:34] <intelikey> mike tab key to complete file names
[04:34] <nirmal> hi all
[04:34] <mike> omg im soo lost
[04:35] <SCOTroll> Hi, my name is Darl McBride.
[04:35] <jrick> What????
[04:35] <mike> isnt there any easier way?
[04:36] <intelikey> SCOTroll  let me guess you are looking for a kickban ?
[04:36] <SCOTroll> No. :(
[04:36] <SCOTroll> Please not that. :(
[04:36] <intelikey> k  we'll see
[04:37] <SCOTroll> I am a friendly troll, I can coexist and help the newbies.
[04:37] <premier_> !HFS?
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hfs? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <premier_> !HFS+
[04:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:37] <premier_> can ubuntu read HFS+ partitions by default, or do I have to install extra programs?=
[04:38] <SCOTroll> premier_: man mount
[04:38] <intelikey> mike easier than opening a konsole and typing in   >>>  sudo dpkg -i */*.deb  <<<  ?
[04:38] <mike> it dosent work
[04:38] <intelikey> what error ?
[04:39] <mike> it says either No such file or command or some other error
[04:39] <SCOTroll> premier_: Have you tried mount -t hfsplus?
[04:39] <jrick> mike: >>> cd Desktop <<< before trying to install.
[04:39] <mike> cd Desktop?
[04:39] <jrick> yeah
[04:39] <mike> whats that?
[04:39] <SCOTroll> Evil #ubuntu operators kickbanned me. :(
[04:40] <intelikey> :)
[04:40] <premier_> well, I don't have the hard drive yet (its a usb drive) and I have to move my laptop to get it, and I can't connect to the school's wireless, install programs, look up websites.   Now go read man mount.
[04:43] <mike> Jrick: are you talking to me?
[04:43] <jrick> yeah
[04:43] <SCOTroll> Yes, Mac OS X sucks.
[04:44] <jennifer_> Anyone know who to fix incompatible pointer type errors?
[04:44] <intelikey> premier_ feisty ?
[04:44] <premier_> yeah
[04:44] <SCOTroll> Mac OS X for writing fun viruses.
[04:44] <intelikey> premier_ and what are you trying to mount ?
[04:45] <premier_> according to man: The file system  types  which are currently supported include: ...hfs, hpfs ...
[04:45] <premier_> HFS+
[04:45] <mike> im trying to install Frostwire
[04:45] <jrick> frostwire.deb ?
[04:45] <mike> yes
[04:45] <SCOTroll> Mac OS Classic was so much better, and cooperative multitasking was fun.
[04:45] <intelikey> premier_ and where is this hfs+fs ?
[04:45] <jrick> that's EXACTLY what the files called? including caps?
[04:46] <SCOTroll> intelikey: On a USB key.
[04:46] <premier_> its an apple format.  A friend of mine has a usb drive
[04:46] <mike> hold on
[04:46] <premier_> SCOTroll: its not a key, its a full sized drive
[04:47] <intelikey> premier_ ok you are probably pointing mount at the wrong device.   sudo fdisk -l     and/or  cat /proc/partitions    see if you can identify the device node
[04:47] <jrick> where did you save it? Desktop or Home?
[04:47] <mike> Desktop
[04:47] <SCOTroll> premier_: Tell your friend to ease up on the tea, it is harming his ability to make objective decisions.
[04:47] <mike> dpkg: error processing frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb (--install):
[04:47] <mike>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:47] <mike> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:47] <mike>  frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:47] <mike> thats what it said when i put that in the terminal
[04:48] <jrick> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:48] <jrick> then enter password
[04:48] <mike> Unpacking replacement frostwire
[04:48] <mike> Setting up frostwire (4.13.1)
[04:48] <mike> it didnt ask for a password
[04:48] <jrick> ok
[04:48] <mike> when it got to Setting up frostwire it stopped
[04:49] <jrick> what did it say?
[04:49] <intelikey> "Unpacking replacement frostwire"  already installed it one time...
[04:49] <mike> Unpacking replacement frostwire ...
[04:49] <mike> Setting up frostwire (4.13.1) ...
[04:49] <mike> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[04:49] <kgx> hey. i accidently deleted /etc/mono/*. how can i force apt-get (or adept) to recreate those folders? i cant even run mono anymore. i tried reinstalling but didnt help
[04:49] <premier_> SCOTroll: you mean my freind who uses mac?  I think he's learned his lesson.  Its a mactel, so he thought he would just run windows on it, but as it turns out, windows + macintosh= world's least stable operating system
[04:49] <jrick> your good.
[04:49] <mike> now what do i do?
[04:49] <jrick> now run frostwire from the terminal
[04:49] <jrick> just "frostwire"
[04:49] <intelikey> kgx reinstall the app responsable
[04:49] <SCOTroll> Tip: If you use a root account you never have to worry about permissions. Just like in the good old days of DOS, except for damned protected mode.
[04:50] <jrick> or check your KMenu
[04:50] <intelikey> s/app/package/
[04:50] <SCOTroll> DOS was all an operating system needed to be.
[04:50] <intelikey> hehhe
[04:50] <intelikey> in 1073 maybe
[04:51] <mike> okay its on the K menu
[04:51] <mike> but when i click on it to open, it wont open up
[04:51] <mike> ot has "Frostwire" on the menu of stuff that is running, but its just loading
[04:51] <mike> then it just goes away
[04:51] <jrick> try typing frostwire into the Konsole
[04:52] <mike> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[04:52] <intelikey> SCOTroll here's a tip for you.   if you irc as root you should always idle in #debian
[04:52] <jrick> ok
[04:52] <jrick> just a sec
[04:52] <mike> mmk
[04:52] <SCOTroll> I IRC in Windows Vista.
[04:52] <intelikey> close enough
[04:53] <Dragnslcr> Vista already has IRC support?
[04:53] <premier_> Dragnslcr: lol
[04:53] <SCOTroll> Dragnslcr: Yes, it supports RFC 1459.
[04:53] <jeffto> hi
[04:53] <SCOTroll> You just need a third party plug in.
[04:53] <SCOTroll> Such as mIRC.
[04:54] <SCOTroll> Telnet works too.
[04:54] <jrick> I'm trying to find the java package now
[04:54] <intelikey> mirc is now a plugin   hmmm
[04:54] <mike> oh okay
[04:54] <premier_> IIRC, ubuntu does these things out of the box, but maybe I'm forgetting myself
[04:54] <jeffto> I need some help to setup kaudiocreator to extract mp3 form CD
[04:54] <jrick> if you want java 1.5
[04:54] <jeffto> How I install the mp3 decoder?
[04:54] <intelikey> !java
[04:54] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:54] <jrick> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <jrick> or for java 6
[04:55] <jrick> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[04:55] <SCOTroll> The questions people ask here are hilarious.
[04:55] <jrick> you probably want a fast connection.
[04:55] <jrick> it's a lot of stuff
[04:55] <intelikey> :)
[04:56] <jrick> I use 6 (newer), but 5 is probably better supported
[04:56] <SCOTroll> It makes me wonder if they read documentation. I'm sure they do.
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> SCOTroll: at least the second half of your nick is accurate.
[04:56] <mike> whatever i need to get it working
[04:56] <jrick> either /should/ work
[04:56] <premier_> maybe download it directly from java.sun.com
[04:56] <mike> i just got Sun java 6
[04:56] <jrick> from the command I just told you?
[04:56] <kgx> intelikey: i tried reinstalling it, but it would recreate that directory
[04:57] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:57] <SCOTroll> Just because I live under a bridge, it doesn't make me Welch.
[04:57] <mike> no
[04:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:57] <jrick> try that instead, your settings might not be right.
[04:57] <Dragnslcr> Here's an odd question. If I have wav file that gets butchered by nearly ever program (Amarok, Gaim), but plays fine in XChat, is there any way to convert it to an ogg that will play correctly in any app?
[04:57] <intelikey> kgx  grep /etc/mono /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[04:57] <SCOTroll> Dragnslcr: Yes.
[04:57] <mike> i did
[04:57] <ubuntu_> sorry i dont speak english.  somebody know reset the kde for konsole?
[04:57] <mike> it said i Installed it
[04:58] <jrick> any luck?
[04:58] <mike> but frostwire still wont upen
[04:58] <jrick> huh.
[04:58] <mike> do i maybe have to restart my pc?
[04:58] <jeffto> ubuntu, erase your .kde folder
[04:58] <jrick> I doubt it.
[04:58] <intelikey> Dragnslcr wav2ogg
[04:58] <SCOTroll> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should reset your window manager, ubuntu.
[04:58] <SCOTroll> Not sure that is what you mean.
[04:58] <jrick> linux isn't like windows like that
[04:58] <mike> oh
[04:59] <jrick> try typing java in at the Konsole
[04:59] <intelikey> Dragnslcr package vorbis-tools or something like that supplies it
[04:59] <mike> umm a long list comes up
[04:59] <intelikey> Dragnslcr audacity can do such things graphically
[05:00] <SCOTroll> jrick: Neither is Windows. Windows 98 isn't the most recent version anymore. The new Windows Server can even patch the kernel without rebooting.
[05:00] <kgx> intelikey: thanks..seems to be some stuff in there :)
[05:00] <intelikey> wonder who they stole that from SCOTroll
[05:00] <SCOTroll> I hardly ever reboot Windows Vista.
[05:00] <jrick> like instructions on how to run a java program?
[05:01] <SCOTroll> intelikey: If it isn't patented, there isn't a problem.
[05:01] <jrick> troll: not with updates.
[05:01] <intelikey> kgx that will list the packages that affect the dir in question
[05:01] <mike> -disableassertions[:<packagename>...|:<classname>]
[05:01] <mike>                   disable assertions
[05:01] <mike>     -esa | -enablesystemassertions
[05:01] <mike>                   enable system assertions
[05:01] <mike>     -dsa | -disablesystemassertions
[05:01] <mike>                   disable system assertions
[05:01] <intelikey> kgx reinstall them all
[05:01] <mike> jibberish like that
[05:01] <SCOTroll> mike: **** off, I'm trying to talk.
[05:01] <intelikey> SCOTroll me thinks that's backwards but everwhat
[05:02] <kgx> intelikey: thanks :) little bit of a noob here, but how do i do it? i presume its not with apt-get
[05:02] <mike> screw you Scotroll, too bad i dont care about you
[05:02] <SCOTroll> Congratulations, java is installed.
[05:02] <intelikey> kgx give me a sec.
[05:02] <mike> jrick: what do i do?
[05:03] <jrick> i'm not quite sure.  Anybody else have ideas?
[05:03] <intelikey> kgx dump that list into a varable or file and plug it into      for Q in $yourVar ;do apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $Q ;done
[05:04] <SCOTroll> Not trying to troll, but it seems this channel has become a replacement for reading documentation.
[05:04] <kgx> intelikey: thanks man.
[05:05] <intelikey> example of the dump & plug     yourVar=$(basename `grep <blah balh>`)      <<< any way you can get there is fine.
[05:05] <SCOTroll> If this were #openbsd, these questions wouldn't be tolerated.
[05:06] <intelikey> possably grep (blah  balh) > LIST ; nano LIST
[05:06] <jrick> mike: ask for help on the community forum from frostwire's website
[05:07] <intelikey> if this was unix you would already have surpassed your troll quota too
[05:07] <Yorokobi> The nick alone would have been above tolerance
[05:07] <SCOTroll> I act like an ass on EFnet #freebsd without any problems.
[05:07] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- audacity doesn't give me any sound when I play the file
[05:08] <jrick> mike: i'm stuck on what to do next
[05:08] <SCOTroll> Anyway, did anyone notice SCOX stock went up four cents today?
[05:08] <intelikey> Dragnslcr then it's the output device selected in audacity's menu
[05:08] <intelikey> Dragnslcr try selecting arts   and alternatively  alsa
[05:09] <SCOTroll> If they can get it over a dollar with some more PR and P&D, they'll be able to comply with Nasdaq's requirements.
[05:09] <SCOTroll> I'm going to pissed if my shares become OTC stock.
[05:10] <SCOTroll> The judge is partial IMHO.
[05:11] <FearMoth> Hi, how can I configure my Intel 3945ABG wireless to use WPA TKIP/PSK ?
[05:11] <SCOTroll> With a partial judge, SCO could prove that Linux has stolen code.
[05:11] <jrick> will you please get off of here troll?
[05:11] <SCOTroll> With Mark Shuttleworth would be falling over himself to pay Darl.
[05:11] <jrick> this has nothing to do with kubuntu help.
[05:12] <jbrouhard> May i recommend SCOTroll be kicked ?
[05:12] <SCOTroll> May I recommend you be kicked?
[05:12] <Skrot-> May I recommend on-topic discussion?
[05:12] <SCOTroll> Sure.
[05:12] <jbrouhard> Skrot-: I agree
[05:13] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Feisty?
[05:13] <jrick> mike: I just install frostwire and got the same problem
[05:13] <SCOTroll> As soon as some Linux fanatic comes asking about how to mount his USB drive so he can view his pengiun porn, I'll be glad to be on topic.
[05:14] <kgx> btw, has been a fix to the missing bootsplash in kubuntu?
[05:14] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- if I export the wav as an ogg and play it in XChat, I get loud noise
[05:14] <Skrot-> Well, either be on-topic or go to #offtopic and do your rambling there
[05:14] <dsmith_> Q: how do you mount my USB drive so I cant ake SCOTRoll shutup
[05:14] <SCOTroll> Skrot-: I would be glad to.
[05:15] <jrick> haha very funny
[05:15] <ILoveRMS> Richard Stallman is my idol.
[05:15] <intelikey> Dragnslcr does it play in amarok ?
[05:15] <sheldonc> RMS is a crack victim
[05:15] <FearMoth> Skrot- yes, Feisty..
[05:15] <intelikey> who's Richard Stallman ?
[05:16] <dsmith_> !richard stallman
[05:16] <sheldonc> intelikey: only person you need to know is Linus Torvalds
[05:16] <dsmith_> heh
[05:16] <dsmith_> hah :)
[05:16] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Then you should have KNetworkManager installed with a icon down in the systray? It supports both WEP and WPA (1 and 2)
[05:16] <ILoveRMS> intelikey: The Rosie O'Donnell of communist hippy legalize-marajuana GNU fanatics.
[05:16] <intelikey> hehheh
[05:17] <sheldonc> ILoveRMS: Did you read the speech OSNews posted of some talk he did in Croatia? He said something along the lines of not distributing software as an ethical dilemma
[05:17] <ILoveRMS> He's full of it.
[05:17] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- well, Amarok can play the converted ogg file. Gaim just plays silence though
[05:17] <nick_> hey
[05:18] <Doctor_Nick> I stupidly ran the KDE personalization wizard and now my desktop is really annoying
[05:18] <Dragnslcr> Gaim is use the command "artsplay %s"
[05:18] <Doctor_Nick> how do i go back to the kubuntu defaults?
[05:18] <FearMoth> Skrot- when I go to manual configuration and click configure interface on my wireless (eth1) and type my ESSID and my key in WEP key and select ASCII as key type, it still can't connect. Am I doing something wrong?
[05:18] <intelikey> Dragnslcr if amarok plays it correctly,  lets assume the file is good shall we ?
[05:18] <Skrot-> FearMoth: Why do you need to use manual method?
[05:19] <intelikey> Dragnslcr thus we start working on what the specific applications are doing incorrectly
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- yup, sounds good to me. Now I just have to get Gaim to play it
[05:20] <FearMoth> Skrot- I don't see anything about my wireless when I click on the knetworkmanager icon in the bottom right, just "wired devices"
[05:20] <ILoveRMS> Well, I've had enough of the hammer and sickle communists.
[05:20] <intelikey> !wifi | FearMoth if the docs are of any help you'll find them at;
[05:20] <ubotu> FearMoth if the docs are of any help you'll find them at;: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> anyone help me with my problem?
[05:21] <Skrot-> FearMoth: hmm.. usually there's a list of networks. If you right click the knetworkmanager icon in systray and go to options, is the "Enable wireless" selection grayed out there?
[05:21] <Doctor_Nick> !default
[05:21] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[05:21] <ILoveRMS> Time to go back to capitalism.  I've never deleted all of .kde though. You may want to be more selective. Like just deleting .kde/share or .kde/share/config.
[05:25] <nalioth> AliasRichard: please be civil
[05:26] <AliasRichard> ?
[05:26] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- blah, I figured out why Gaim wouldn't play the file
[05:26] <intelikey> Dragnslcr mind sharing it ?
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- Gaim was using the command artsplay %s
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> But the filename had a space in it
[05:27] <AliasRichard> How do I uninstall Linux? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247804 is confusing and not specific to my kubuntu Linux.
[05:27] <intelikey> there ya go.     "use more quotes"
[05:27] <Dragnslcr> Changing it to artsplay "%s" fixed it
[05:27] <Allysan> AliasRichard: Format the partition it is on
[05:27] <Allysan> What do you want to use in place of linux?
[05:28] <AliasRichard> Microsoft Windows Vista.
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> I suppose I should report that as a bug in Gaim. Maybe suggest they shell-escape the file name before replacing the %s
[05:28] <Allysan> AliasRichard: Boot the Vista disk and delete/format the Linux partition... back up any data you have on that partition first.
[05:28] <Allysan> But I'm going to recommend using XP rather than Vista
[05:29] <nick_> yup
[05:29] <nick_> that did it
[05:29] <sumguy231> Just curious, how much did you delete?
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> just .kde
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> which wiped out the settings for just about everything
[05:29] <Doctor_Nick> buuuuut
[05:30] <Dragnslcr> Yay, I crashed Gaim
[05:30] <sumguy231> Doctor_Nick: Ah, I see. Good, good.
[05:31] <OCSevoLI> I had trouble installing my Microsoft software in WINE.
[05:31] <intelikey> good
[05:31] <nalioth> OCSevoLI: please join ##windows
[05:32] <Dragnslcr> Great, now Gaim crashes every time I try to change a sound
[05:32] <cntb> 7.04 upgrrade failed after retries - pls look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19074/
[05:33] <intelikey> Dragnslcr eeek...    maybe you need to restart the sound server ?
[05:33] <intelikey> not sure it will help.
[05:33] <Gamic> cntb: try again in an hour or so, looks like it couldn't download some of the updated files
[05:34] <OCSevoLI> Samual Beckett... The adventures of Waiting for Godot ...A screenplay with existential references.
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> Nah, it wasn't when I tried to play the sound, it was when I tried to open the file dialog
[05:34] <Dragnslcr> I reset the sound to the default, then it let me open the dialog. Dunno what happened
[05:35] <cntb> gamic same yesterday
[05:35] <cntb> overload ?
[05:36] <intelikey> cntb looks like a problem with your sources.list to me    care to pastebin that ?
[05:37] <cntb> k intelikey
[05:38] <jaosn> hi all
[05:38] <intelikey> jaosn
[05:39] <jaosn> when i go on a site where pics is theres an x instead of a pic whats wrong
[05:39] <intelikey> browser set to not display images
[05:39] <jaosn> i have 6.06
[05:39] <sumguy231> Which browser? Does anything else not load?
[05:39] <jaosn> firefox
[05:39] <cntb> intelikey: my sources on edgy now b4 feisty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19076/
[05:40] <intelikey> i have turned images off in ff before
[05:40] <cntb> 7.04 upgrade failed after retries - pls look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19074/
[05:41] <cntb> let me guess  here . I guess I should hide backports here , for upgrade top continue?
[05:41] <jaosn> how do i fix the image settings
[05:41] <sumguy231> jaosn: Try http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load
[05:42] <Allysan> jaosn: go to Edit > Preferences > Content > make sure "Load Images Automatically" is checked
[05:42] <intelikey> cntb ok that error message shows errors on feisty repos  your sources.list has only edgy sources in it.   i am not familear with the edgy>feisty upgrader     but i'd think you may need to rerun the upgrader script...
[05:42] <jaosn> its checked
[05:43] <intelikey> cntb and yes commenting out backports would be advisable
[05:43] <Dragnslcr> Thanks for the help intelikey
[05:43] <intelikey> Dragnslcr np
[05:44] <cntb> tyvm
[05:45] <premier_> is there a way to read DRM encoded files (such as those sold by iTunes) in ubuntu?
[05:45] <premier_> the format is .m4p
[05:45] <premier_> also, .m4a
[05:46] <Allysan> premier_: Amarok will play them, but you can't edit their tags
[05:48] <jrick> too bad mike left, i just found his solution.
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah.  i'm sorry the way i just left you with him.   but i can't talk to people that don't even understand    cd Desktop    after you tell them "just run that..."
[05:49] <Dimetera> does anyone know how to boot off the kubuntu 7.04 cd in a custom monitor mode?
[05:50] <intelikey> you mean vga= ?
[05:50] <Yorokobi> Dimetera, use F6 then add 'resolution=1024x768' or whatever res you want
[05:50] <Dimetera> say 800x600 @ 60hz
[05:50] <intelikey> oh you mean the graphic mode   reconfigure x
[05:50] <jrick> turns out frostwire was not using the correct jre. he needed to do a  sudo update-alternatives --config java and then select Sun Java
[05:51] <Dimetera> can you do that from cd boot?
[05:51] <intelikey> Dimetera well why not ?
[05:51] <Dimetera> where would i find it?
[05:51] <intelikey> Dimetera    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <Dimetera> ok thanks
[05:52] <intelikey> if it don't work you can gripe at me tomarrow... :)
[05:54] <jrick> is there any way to get back to mike?
[05:54] <jrick> i don't want to leave him hanging
[05:55] <intelikey> jrick if he's reg'd  you might /msg memoserv   him
[05:56] <intelikey> freenode provides memo services to registered users.     mine is turned off...
[05:56] <jrick> [Notice]  -MemoServ- Unknown command [mike]
[05:56] <intelikey> /msg memoserv help
[05:58] <jrick> i'm confused.  I doubt there's anyway to get his email
[05:58] <intelikey> ok i've just enought time to clean up and shut down.   later all.
[06:00] <freak10336> can anyone tell me why my screen resolution only goes to 800x600?
[06:00] <Doctor_Nick> ok
[06:01] <freak10336> i have a s3 unichrome graphics card
[06:01] <Doctor_Nick> now can anyone point me to a list of all the multimedia codecs i could ever possibly need?
[06:05] <dsmith_> freak10336: update xorg.conf?
[06:05] <dsmith_> Doctor_Nick: Flash 9
[06:08] <Doctor_Nick> har har
[06:11] <Morrissey> Hi. Would anyone please explain why amarok doesnt seem to find any of my mp3 files? At least not in the collection ... its OK when I add them manually, but it wont find any files in my mp3 dirs (though there are plenty!)
[06:11] <Doctor_Nick> did you install support for mp3 files yet?
[06:12] <Doctor_Nick> like, when you click on an mp3 file, it should prompt you to install mp3 codecs
[06:12] <Morrissey> It plays mp3 files ok
[06:12] <Morrissey> just not the collection that finds anything
[06:12] <Morrissey> tried with both mysql and sqllite, so its not the database ... :S
[06:13] <Doctor_Nick> hm
[06:13] <Morrissey> Actually, it did the first time, but when I tried to rescan collection, it just removed all the files, and now it cant find any
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> thats weird
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> is it all of your mp3 files, or just all of your files?
[06:15] <Doctor_Nick> do you have some oggs in there?
[06:22] <Morrissey> Doctor_Nick, none of my files
[06:23] <Morrissey> it actually added one file, but I deleted it because I though maybe it was screwing things up :)
[06:32] <luckyone> when you download stuff with superkaramba, where does it put it?
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> luckyone, download what?
[06:37] <Maxdamantus> Superkaramba is an addon sort of to KDE, so you can have objects on your desktop.
[06:38] <Maxdamantus> Like widgets in Mac and ObjectDesktop (or whatever it's called) in Windows.
[06:38] <premier_> I accidentally started a large number of file copys (8) of large files (100+ mb) from one hard drive to another.  Besides taking a long time, is there anything I should worry about?
[06:38] <premier_> A windows computer would crash crash crash, but I expect linux would be a little better
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> Depends what File Systems you're copying over.
[06:39] <premier_> vfat -> ext3
[06:39] <Maxdamantus> I wouldn't worry about it.
[06:40] <Maxdamantus> You can stop them if you want. It shouldn't do anything bad.
[06:40] <spookcomix> Howdy all.  I'm currently running the Kubuntu Live CD, and I'd love to just go ahead and overwrite my almost-Fedora-7 install on this laptop with Feisty.  However, Fedora is on an LVM volume.  How would I mount that?  I need to preserve /home, and if I can do it without rebooting, I'll get a special kudo.
[06:40] <premier_> BTW, for the past 3 days, my swap partition has been completely full according to my system monitor utility.  Is there anything I can do about that besides restarting?  I was trying to use top to determine who owned the swap, but it didn't list anything
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> You can preserve partitions.
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> Just remove the ones you don't want (Keep your /home partiton)
[06:41] <spookcomix> The whole drive is one big LVM.
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> And use the manual partitioning from there.
[06:41] <spookcomix> ...and GTParted doesn't even recognize it.
[06:41] <premier_> nevermind
[06:41] <Maxdamantus> I had that problem when I started kubuntu. :S
[06:41] <voorhees86> somebody hwl
[06:42] <voorhees86> helpme with the wireless
[06:42] <Maxdamantus> Luckily I have 2 hdds, and was able to back up everything on one while I erased the other.
[06:42] <premier_> voorhees86: what is it doing?
[06:42] <Maxdamantus> Away
[06:42] <spookcomix> Well, poo.  Does Kubuntu just not have support for mounting and using LVM?
[06:43] <premier_> !LVM
[06:43] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:43] <premier_> geez, I was considering raid for my new compy.  Should I reconsider?
[06:44] <premier_> do you guys know how the performance of raid 1 compares to raid 0?
[06:44] <levon> anyone get nsfu2 to run
[06:44] <voorhees86> my card is a broadcom, i install the drivers (frm43xxx-fwcutter) and the wlan light on my laptop turn blue, but on network manager nothing happend
[06:44] <levon> i got it running but the screens are grey
[06:44] <levon> any ideas
[06:45] <levon> frm
[06:45] <levon> did you click the knetworkmanager
[06:45] <levon> and select your network
[06:45] <voorhees86> yeah, but dosent appear
[06:46] <voorhees86> i thing i scrue the configuration
[06:46] <levon> not possible
[06:46] <levon> whats the driver
[06:46] <voorhees86> ?
[06:46] <levon> whats the driver for your card
[06:46] <levon> broadband
[06:46] <levon> what card do you have
[06:46] <voorhees86> broadcom
[06:47] <levon> is this uplink
[06:47] <melkor> does anybody think that could lead to problems?
[06:47] <melkor> ' /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)'
[06:47] <levon> anyways i was helping someone yesterday
[06:47] <levon> ill help you too
[06:47] <levon> voorhees go here #illhelpaway
[06:48] <levon> seriously im waiting in that channel to help you
[06:48] <kane_> so KDE isnt showing the contects of any folders in konqi or in any prompt boxes
[06:48] <kane_> is kde on the DRUGS?
[06:59] <wolferine> when using Apache2, I have to have my /home/user/public_html dir be used, do I specify that inside my apache2.conf, or in the default, in /etc/apache2/sites-available ?
[07:00] <thony> one problem...
[07:00] <thony> using the link,http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/10/installing-wine.html
[07:01] <kalorin`> wolferine: I believe there's an area in the config for user homedirs
[07:02] <kalorin`> in the main config
[07:02] <thony> I could not find the "quick filter text box"
[07:02] <kalorin`> I always do mine as name based vhosts just cause I'm fancy and like to set options on them in various ways to I feel more special :)
[07:03] <GWillakers> truecrypt for 7.04 has been released!  www.truecrypt.org
[07:04] <wolferine> kalorin, i thought that was being handled by the 'default' in /etc/apache2/sites-available now
[07:04] <thony> although accessing the k menu ->system->adept (package manager)
[07:07] <kalorin`> yeah I think it might be
[07:07] <kalorin`> I still do my own
[07:08] <kalorin`> man this is like fun
[07:08] <kalorin`> vmware
[07:20] <kalorin`> amazing, I did a virus scan and it didn't find the WinXP, Win2k, OR Win2k3 vmware instances I have
[07:20] <kalorin`> :)
[07:23] <kalorin`> ok night all
[07:34] <jovans> what are the backport modules for the kernel 2.6.20
[07:35] <levon> hmm
[07:36] <levon> anyone get nfsu2 to work
[07:38] <levon> voorhees86 that you
[07:38] <levon> thats why i dont help
[07:39] <levon> people dont say thank you when your done top that off im glad he jumped the gun
[07:39] <levon> voorhees
[07:39] <levon> you need to type more stuff
[07:39] <levon> #illhelpaway
[07:39] <levon> join agian
[07:39] <voorhees86> yeah, my system freeze, i reboot
[07:40] <levon> aww okay
[07:53] <brandon_> O_O
[07:58] <Brandx> ...
[08:00] <Brandx> . . . . . .
[08:00] <Brandx> Can someone help me?
[08:02] <PFA> anyone know where amarok saves its playlists by default?
[08:03] <Brandx> Uhh... Nope.
[08:03] <levon> nope?
[08:03] <Brandx> ?
[08:03] <levon> brandx problem?
[08:03] <Brandx> I am so confused
[08:04] <levon> what is your problem
[08:04] <levon> maybe i can help
[08:04] <Brandx> I cant install anything, This is my first day, well hour if Kubuntu
[08:04] <Brandx> of*
[08:04] <levon> oh man
[08:04] <Brandx> yea...
[08:04] <levon> brandx #illhelpyou
[08:04] <Brandx> im a un1337 fr00bie
[08:04] <levon> click that
[08:04] <Brandx> ok, ty
[08:05] <levon> wait
[08:05] <Brandx> ya?
[08:05] <levon> this one
[08:05] <Brandx> lawl, ok
[08:05] <levon> #illhelpaway
[08:05] <Brandx> ...
[08:05] <Brandx> "away" xD
[08:05] <Brandx> okey dokey, i'll give it a try
[08:05] <levon> k im waiting
[08:22] <sivaji> !ubout
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <sivaji> !ubotu
[08:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:25] <thetarepublic> ;o
[08:26] <sivaji> hi Andrew
[08:27] <sivaji> AndrewB
[08:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> does anyone here use rtorrent
[08:36] <sivaji> can i read and write a file to ntfs based partition through kubuntu?
[08:37] <cBau> I don't know the specific process, but yes
[08:44] <shibz> I am trying to help someone out with kubuntu... he is trying to install gaim using "apt-get install gaim"... apparently it can't find the gaim package... is there any reason why it would be masked or something?
[08:45] <cBau> is there a reason to use command line? I know the Adept Manager has it.
[08:46] <cBau> checking the package name
[08:46] <shibz> its a lot easier to tell someone to type something than it is to tell them what button to press haha
[08:46] <shibz> especially when I have never used adept
[08:46] <oxydon> hey
[08:47] <oxydon> i need help
[08:47] <cBau> I don't disagree, but if you can't find the apt-get for some reason, I suggest to tell him to go to Systems--> Adept Manager and search it.
[08:47] <shibz> hey oxydon
[08:47] <cBau> I see no reason why what you told him shouldn't work either
[08:47] <cBau> did he forget sudo or something?
[08:48] <nodesert_> my storage medias are mounted but just root can read how can i change this on start up
[08:48] <shibz> hes doing sudo
[08:48] <oxydon> it seems that i entered the usermanagement and i took away the admin from the secondary groups and i want 2 add it back
[08:48] <Brandx> can someone help me with the clock?>
[08:48] <cBau> shibz: I just tested the line you gave me and it installed correctly
[08:49] <shibz> hmmm
[08:49] <cBau> so.... I don't know
[08:49] <cBau> /afk
[08:49] <cBau> bah
[08:49] <shibz> I am thinking that his repositories are messed
[08:49] <cBau> could be
[08:49] <cBau> gotta run, work calls
[08:49] <oxydon> shibz do u think u know a solution to my problem
[08:49] <Brandx> how do i change the time to 12 hr not 24?
[08:50] <shibz> oxydon, I don't understand what your asking =/ sorry
[08:50] <shibz> I have never used kubuntu
[08:50] <Brandx> meh
[08:50] <oxydon> its like ubuntu
[08:50] <oxydon> i think so
[08:50] <Brandx> kubuntu is what im using too :P
[08:50] <shibz> never used ubuntu either
[08:50] <oxydon> i am just new here
[08:50] <shibz> or debian
[08:50] <Brandx> same
[08:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> if you start a CLI program in the konsole, then close then konsole but the program is still running, is there any way to get back into the program without restarting it?
[08:51] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: use "top"
[08:51] <bentob0x> how come everytime I boot, my desktop icons are shuffled out on my desktop and I always have to do right-click->Icons->Line up Vertically?
[08:51] <oxydon> shibz
[08:51] <oxydon> i cant access anything now with a password like adept
[08:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- to switch to the program? how?
[08:52] <shibz> so you aren't in the wheel group anymore?
[08:53] <shibz> the command
[08:53] <shibz> sudo usermod -a -G wheel yourusername
[08:53] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: if you got the program to run in the background it'll stay running until you kill it.
[08:53] <shibz> should work
[08:53] <shibz> except, you don't have wheel so it won't let you use sudo
[08:54] <shibz> unless kubuntu works different from what i'm used to
[08:54] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- I don't want to kill it. I want to open it without having to restart the program
[08:55] <sivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19098/
[08:55] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: you can't afaik unless you used "screen" to start it.
[08:56] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: if ir's a gui program it should show in your taskbar.
[08:56] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[08:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> triade- so if I have screen running, and I want to restart X, how do I get the program back
[08:58] <lupul> hello. does anyone know if there is a plugin for gaim to show the music i'm listening to??
[08:58] <lupul> listening in amarok
[08:58] <lupul> ! music
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <lupul> ! gaim plugin
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaim plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <triade> dettoaltrimenti_: I'm not sure about running X but you can dettach a screen session and resume it alter (even remote) if need be. "man screen"
[09:01] <mrcreativity> can anyone help me please?
[09:01] <Kispios> Any italian Here??????????
[09:02] <Kispios> mrcreativity, what's the problem
[09:02] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[09:02] <Kispios> ?
[09:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> kispios hi
[09:03] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, ciao
[09:04] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, mi puoi aiutare un secondo?
[09:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> naturalmente
[09:06] <bentob0x> how come everytime I boot, my desktop icons are shuffled out on my desktop and I always have to do right-click->Icons->Line up Vertically?
[09:07] <dettoaltrimenti_> Kispios in #ubuntu-it
[09:07] <manchicken> bentob0x: Do you leave KDE properly?
[09:07] <bentob0x> yes always
[09:07] <manchicken> bentob0x: As in, you log out rather than just killing X?
[09:07] <Kispios> dettoaltrimenti_, aiutano anche su Kubuntu?
[09:07] <bentob0x> I'm looking online also and it seems to be a problem that other ppl get also
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> si
[09:08] <flowingfire> hey there...   I wish I could give you a definitive answer--and someone smarter than me could probably do so--but I usually just play around with it until it's there.
[09:09] <manchicken> flowingfire: Try accessing it directly for starters, and go frrom there.
[09:10] <flowingfire> manchicken: Ahh . . . Thanks... Others have this probem too eh?
[09:10] <manchicken> flowingfire: Every time I set up samba I have that problem.
[09:11] <manchicken> flowingfire: whenever I'm in the unfortunate situation where I need to share files on a windows box I just use winscp.
[09:11] <flowingfire> :) What's that?
[09:12] <manchicken> flowingfire: It's a free software windows GUI program that lets you communicate with a machine that can share files over SCP or SFTP.
[09:12] <flowingfire> I'm willing to bet this is Microsoft being evil to linux people. hehe
[09:12] <flowingfire> hmmm.... can I apt-get it?
[09:13] <manchicken> flowingfire: It's a windows program.  winscp.org or winscp.com or winscp.net I think.
[09:13] <manchicken> flowingfire: It sucks less than explorer, too.
[09:13] <flowingfire> oooh ok... I was thinking emulation for some reason lol
[09:13] <manchicken> Naw, it just implements the SCP and SFTP protocols under win32.
[09:13] <flowingfire> k. :) thx rock on
[09:14] <triade> flowingfire: winscp uses "putty". You  can apt-get "putty"
[09:14] <flowingfire> that's ftp right
[09:15] <triade> ssh
[09:15] <flowingfire> -installed-
[09:15] <Alarm> why to putty if a simple console supports everything ?
[09:15] <manchicken> PuTTY has some bugs that really bother me.
[09:16] <flowingfire> so does feisty lol
[09:16] <manchicken> Shift-level-3 is anti-lefty.
[09:16] <mrcreativity> the shutdown button shows only log off option, and nothing else. can someone help?
[09:16] <manchicken> mrcreativity: Are you using xgl or beryl or compiz?
[09:17] <mrcreativity> i have installed it, but its not running atm
[09:17] <mikkael> can someone help me to get kaffeine to play avi files again ?
[09:17] <manchicken> mrcreativity: That normally happens when you're running X outside of a normal X session managed by kdm or gdm.
[09:17] <mikkael> at the moment i cant play any videos, not even wmv's
[09:17] <manchicken> mikkael: Well, wmvs aren't playable out of the box with kaffeine, so that doesn't surprise me.
[09:17] <mikkael> mpg work
[09:18] <mrcreativity> i have installed gnome as well, but gnome shows all the options
[09:18] <flowingfire> mikkael- drivers?
[09:18] <manchicken> mrcreativity: I don't know if KDE can interface well with gdm... I don't think I've ever tried it that way.
[09:18] <manchicken> mrcreativity: Are you running kdm or gdm?
[09:18] <mikkael> manchicken, i know that. im using kaffeine-xine and nvidia glx friver
[09:18] <mikkael> *driver
[09:18] <manchicken> mikkael: wmv isn't kaffeine-xine, it's win32codecs
[09:19] <flowingfire> oh good lord nvidia+feisty=DEATH
[09:19] <mikkael> i installed those win32codecs
[09:19] <manchicken> mikkael: And just to remind you, running win32codecs in some countries may be a violation of copyright laws.
[09:19] <manchicken> :)
[09:19] <manchicken> mikkael: Let me find the wiki page that helps with all of that.
[09:19] <mrcreativity> now? kdm, but i have gm installed as well, i switch between the 2 at times
[09:20] <mikkael> which countries
[09:20] <manchicken> mrcreativity: I would suggest that you don't do that as it can lead to these situations.  Are both gdm and kdm running right now?
[09:20] <manchicken> mikkael: Most countries that are a part of international copyright treaties.
[09:20] <mrcreativity> yes
[09:20] <mikkael> for example ?
[09:21] <manchicken> mikkael: United States, United Kingdom, any member of the European Union, Canada, and several other countries as well.
[09:21] <mrcreativity> damn it...brb\
[09:21] <flowingfire> heck, I have so much space I copied my whole system32 folder into the WINE directory.  Is that against most copyright laws?
[09:21] <mikkael> so those people arent allowed to watch wmv movies ?
[09:21] <mikkael> or only with MS ?
[09:21] <manchicken> mikkael: That is correct.
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: To do so in those countries is a violation of law that should be considered and decided upon.
[09:22] <mikkael> allright, anybody uses it
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: Some folks, such as myself, see it more as an act of civil disobedience than lawlessness, but I just wanted to make you aware of that.
[09:22] <manchicken> mikkael: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <manchicken> mikkael: That's for edgy, but if you just imagine that it says "feisty" everywhere that you see "edgy" you'll be fine.
[09:24] <manchicken> Actually, it has an extra little thing in there for feisty users.
[09:24] <mikkael> the problem is: i got it working before, but i tried some other repos (medibuntu, czessi kde repos) that broke avi playback..
[09:24] <manchicken> That's new.  Cool.
[09:24] <manchicken> mikkael: I suggest you avoid all non-standard repositories unless you're 100% certain of their stability and security.
[09:24] <mikkael> i did so, and downgraded again
[09:25] <mikkael> but its still broken, could you help if i post some kaffeine terminal output with errors when playing avi/wmv ?
[09:25] <manchicken> mikkael: I'd try going into adept and selecting the reinstall action for kaffine, xine, and all related codec packages.
[09:26] <mikkael> i did that, thats thje problem, in synaptic all those packages are @ the original ubuntu version again
[09:26] <manchicken> mikkael: Make sure that you have removed the non-standard repositories from your sources.list before trying that though.
[09:26] <mikkael> did it
[09:26] <triade> mikkael: I had the same prob and never got it working again. Use "mplayer"that always works with all kind of files.
[09:26] <manchicken> mikkael: Have you wiped out your kaffine config files and your .xinerc?
[09:26] <mikkael> nope
[09:26] <manchicken> That may help.  Dunno.
[09:27] <mikkael> delete the .kaffeine and .xinerc folder ?
[09:27] <manchicken> Just a shot in the dark on that one.
[09:27] <manchicken> Well there is no .kaffeine.
[09:27] <manchicken> It's ~/.kde/share/config and then look for kaffeinerc
[09:29] <mikkael> manchicken: is it safe to delete? kaffeine will create a new one ?
[09:30] <flowingfire> mikkael: I dunno if this is relevant but Wine was completely broken for me until I went in and manually deleted files and had it reinstall
[09:30] <flowingfire> uninstall never helped fix it-- only manual deletes
[09:31] <mikkael> im near to reinstall the hole OS once again
[09:31] <flowingfire> i'm on my 3rd of feisty. lol
[09:31] <mikkael> 2nd starting with herd2
[09:31] <flowingfire> but that's just because I don't know enough to fix things lol
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: Sure.  Move it out of the way, like rename it to OLD_kaffeinerc
[09:33] <manchicken> or something like that.
[09:33] <mikkael> did it, but i cant find a file called xinerc
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: No need.  Just figure out what's wrong with it and fix it :)
[09:33] <manchicken> mikkael: That's ~/.xinerc
[09:34] <mikkael> ha, deleting folder .xine gave me aviplayback back :D
[09:34] <mikkael> mpg, wmv working too
[09:35] <mikkael> phew, thanks a lot, manchicken
[09:36] <manchicken> Good.
[09:36] <flowingfire> Hmm... Why the heck is gDesklets randomly crashing?
[09:36] <manchicken> mikkael: Reinstalling is usually the wrong way to go.
[09:37] <mikkael> flowingfire, dont you like superkaramba ?
[09:37] <flowingfire> mikkael-- is that better?
[09:37] <flowingfire> 'cuz I'll install it over a program that won't stay on for more than a half-hour lol
[09:37] <mikkael> its for KDE and its great, at least it never crashes for me
[09:37] <flowingfire> cool.  I'll give it a shot.
[09:38] <premier> it deleted a file (as in shift-delete) on my external hard drive (ext3 format). Can I get it back?
[09:38] <mikkael> flowingfire: what kinda desklets do you use ?
[09:38] <flowingfire> mikkael- weather, time, -- just the basics... maybe ram usage when needed
[09:38] <mikkael> superkaramba got those
[09:38] <flowingfire> :)
[09:39] <mikkael> apt-get superkaramba and its in your menu
[09:39] <flowingfire> sounds easy enough...
[09:39] <mikkael> +install :D
[09:39] <premier> I wish they could put these widgets directly in the panel, rather than on the desktop... that's why I have high hopes for kde4 with plasma
[09:39] <flowingfire> hmm...
[09:40] <flowingfire> Well, my apt-get is apt-gotten
[09:40] <flowingfire> (gawd, what the heck did I do in windows?  Spend 45 seconds clicking through install windows?  God bless apt-get)
[09:41] <flowingfire> premier: Do you mean put the widgets directly IN the monitor?
[09:41] <premier> apt-get i think is one of linux's greatest strengths... I don't understand why rpm based distros don't adopt
[09:41] <mikkael> they are too large for the panel! or what do you mean ?
[09:41] <premier> flowingfire: I mean in the kicker (in windows its called the taskbar iirc)
[09:41] <flowingfire> k
[09:42] <premier> mikkael: make the panel smaller!    Theres already a good selection, but they tend to be buggy, and have poor integration, and sometimes they won't be very configurable
[09:45] <mikkael> if someone doesnt see his desktop, he needs to see the widgets on his panel, Kweather is available
[09:45] <premier> I used to use KWeather, but it doesn't give me the information that I need (as in a forcast, not just current conditions.  I do have a window in my room)
[09:46] <premier> I also used to use a rss feed but it prevented me from having a life so I turned it off
[09:46] <mikkael> i just discovered my new favourite konqueror feature: hit F8 when browsing files and a terminal opens IN konqueror..great!
[09:46] <flowingfire> Okay.. maybe I'm missing something here... I clicked "Liquid Weather" in Karamba and said "Install"... How do I put it on my dektop?
[09:46] <mikkael> its in the list of available things now ?
[09:47] <mikkael> double klick it then
[09:47] <flowingfire> one sec.
[09:47] <flowingfire> All I see is "get new stuff" and "open local theme"
[09:47] <mikkael> after "get new stuff" and installing you should have it just under those 2 options
[09:48] <mikkael> was installing successfull ?
[09:48] <flowingfire> I thought so ... I'll try again.
[09:49] <premier> mikkael: I originally was exited about dolphin, but now I'm not sure... Whats wrong with Konqueror as a file browser or a web browser?  Honestly?
[09:49] <flowingfire> Hmm.. I have to play with this.. clicking "install" isn't working so well, so I'm going to go online to download and open local theme
[09:50] <mikkael> ehm, i used dolphin too, but i missed some options
[09:50] <mikkael> flowingfire download it @ kde-looks
[09:50] <premier> if there was anything I would change about konq it would be *add* features
[09:50] <flowingfire> k
[09:51] <mikkael> i dont know what we are talking about right now, konqueror does all i need
[09:51] <manchicken> konqueror++
[09:51] <manchicken> premier: There are always kparts.
[09:51] <mikkael> i added the konquere profile-manager to my quicklaunch thing, so i can have a quick choice if i want to browse files or the web
[09:51] <manchicken> They're easy enough to hack together.
[09:52] <manchicken> premier: And there are plenty of them on kde-apps.org
[09:52] <premier> Can kparts change the way konqueror manages tabs, for example?
[09:53] <premier> Also, to be honest, I think firefox renders more webpages "correctly" and can deal with more advanced web design
[09:53] <premier> In my experience, anyway
[09:53] <flowingfire> Yayyy-- that worked.  I have liquid weather installed
[09:54] <marcspages> Morning. Please. a definitive answer; Does anyone truly know if Knetworkmanager broken or working for WPA?
[09:54] <flowingfire> is there a translucency filter?
[09:55] <premier> marcspages I was broken?
[09:55] <mikkael> flowingfire, its highly cusomizable, search for the config menu
[09:55] <flowingfire> :) ok
[09:56] <dellnote> hello everyone
[09:56] <marcspages> premier: Ta. Obvious next question; Is there a date (approx, of course) aimed for a fix?
[09:57] <dellnote> can someone help me I have some MS Access databases can i ran them on ubuntu?
[09:58] <bonbonthejon> dellnote: I think openoffice can open them
[09:59] <dellnote> No unfortunatlly it doesnt isnt there a program we can use to simluate ms programs or files?
[10:05] <jussi01> dellnote: crossover office
[10:05] <jussi01> dellnote: it costs though
[10:05] <r3> hello .. any1 here to collect bugz for feisty ?
[10:05] <jussi01> !launchpad | r3
[10:05] <ubotu> r3: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:48] <quiz> Hello can anywon please help me?
[10:49] <quiz> i got problem with repositories
[10:49] <quiz> i can't add wit this "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" command
[10:50] <quiz> terminal say kate crash can't connect to x server
[10:50] <onewing> try vi or vim
[10:50] <quiz> whats that ?
[10:50] <onewing> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <quiz> ohh ok i try
[10:51] <roland_> hi
[10:51] <onewing> vi/vim are command line editors
[10:51] <mat1980> quiz, probably nano is more userfriendly
[10:51] <roland_> how do i share printer on (k)ubuntu
[10:51] <quiz> i try this sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal shows repositories what i need to do ?
[10:52] <quiz> mat1980: i can't do with nano
[10:53] <onewing> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vi-guide.xml
[10:54] <onewing> this shows a really easy vi method
[10:54] <quiz> onewing: i wery bad know english there are word that i can't speel =/
[10:54] <mat1980> quiz, have you used the command sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:55] <onewing> print the guide, read once, then use it as a guide. File it for future use.
[10:55] <quiz> mat1980: yes i use in temrinal shows are ok but i don't know what i need to do
[10:56] <onewing> This tutorial will show you how to use vi, a powerful visual editor
[10:56] <mat1980> quiz, sorry I just connected, I don't know what you have to do
[10:57] <quiz> onewing:  thx i try mat1980 ok
[10:57] <mat1980> quiz, I have only suggested an editor more userfriendly then vi
[10:57] <onewing> mat1980: quiz wants to edit sources.list
[10:57] <Dezine> Hello all.. I have a microsoft mouse and I want to be able to use the side buttons.. I can't seem to configure them or change the setting, the mouse settings don't seem to have any ability to chose type of mouse
[10:58] <Lamington> hello
[10:58] <Lamington> I've just gotten beryl going
[10:58] <Lamington> But I have a slight (though very annoying) problem
[10:58] <Dezine> beryl is sweet :D
[10:59] <Lamington> All my window decorations have dissappeared
[10:59] <Lamington> Which is a bit of a problem
[10:59] <_4strO> Lamington: try to type 'emerald --replace'
[10:59] <Lamington> ok just a sec
[11:00] <onewing> quiz: google "sources.list generator"
[11:00] <Lamington> _4strO: I get an error
[11:00] <Lamington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:00] <Lamington>   Major opcode:  147
[11:01] <Lamington>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:01] <quiz> onewing:  i do via vi i do this " vi source.list than i type repositories and where i need to write wq to save and quit?
[11:01] <Lamington>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:01] <Lamington> Failed to open device
[11:01] <Lamington> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:01] <Lamington>   Major opcode:  147
[11:01] <Lamington>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:01] <Lamington>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:01] <Lamington> Failed to open device
[11:02] <_4strO> Lamington: just try to kill and reload emerald (using ctrl+esc for exemple)
[11:02] <Lamington> _4strO: ok brb
[11:02] <_4strO> !baddevice
[11:02] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[11:03] <Lamington> ok my decos are back
[11:03] <onewing> quiz; after editing is complete, press "Esc", then ":", then "x"
[11:03] <Lamington> gonna try starting beryl again
[11:04] <quiz> onewing:  thanks
[11:05] <onewing> quiz: u'r welcome. bye
[11:05] <Lamington> same problem again
[11:05] <quiz> bye
[11:05] <Lamington> my windecos dissappear
[11:06] <Lamington> same thing happened when I first tried xgl/compiz on my previous install
[11:06] <Dezine> I think I found the answer..
[11:07] <Dezine> now to restart to see
[11:14] <onewing> Lamington: backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first
[11:14] <onewing> [02:09]  <onewing> Lamington: under Input Device section, I had three ibstances of the "wacom" driver being used; i deleted all three Sections.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:11]  <onewing> then, under "Section ServerLayout", i deleted the lines that reference "stylus"' cursor"' and "eraser". This fixed the problem for me.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:12]  <onewing> The BAd Device problem, that is.
[11:14] <onewing> [02:12]  <onewing> good luck, I'm out.
[11:14] <Lamington> ok thanks
[11:14] <Lamington> I'll try that
[11:36] <quiz> how to save fail via nano ?
[11:37] <_4strO> quiz: ctrl x
[11:38] <quiz> thx
[11:43] <ssaa> hello please i need some help with ksynaptics
[11:43] <ssaa> it wont let me configure anything
[11:45] <cyber> Aloha
[11:45] <cyber> anyone awake
[11:50] <piotrek> !polish
[11:50] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:06] <dromer> ok wtf, the strengest thing just happened for the 2nd time this week: the system froze completely (X completely frozen, can't even access with ssh) keyboard completely unresponsive (not even ctr+alt+sysrq->rseiub), numlock gts turned off and caps+scrolllock are blinking
[12:06] <Raffi^> hello
[12:09] <Raffi^> i wat to ask about Trash in ubuntu. when I choose "empty trash" progress bar displays, and that's it. I can wait an hour or two :]
[12:10] <Raffi^> what is wrong?
[12:20] <NiceGuyUK> man, that nickserv stuff is complicated
[12:24] <dromer> haha, no it isn't :P
[12:32] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Hmm anyone know an easy way to stop a program from beeping (Such as scrot)?
[12:33] <Contrast> Maxdamantus: You can turn off sound notifications from prgrams system-wide in System Settings, but I'm not sure about scrot.
[12:34] <Contrast> brb
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Mmm.. I know.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Meh. Might as well do that. PC Speaker is annoying on ears.
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> Is screen able to supress sound if I do it in there?
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Nvm, I'll just leave bell off system wide.
[12:38] <ubuntu> +
[12:45] <Beaver{rRr}> Hello. Im new in kubuntu, installed it yesterday, and want to use it on desktop computer. One problem, there is no internet on that computer, and i can directly get packages, needed for play music with Amarok.
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, you could use it like that, and download packages on a different computer.
[12:49] <Beaver{rRr}> Maxdamantus, ok, there is windows on computer with internet, how can i get ubuntu packages with windows?
[12:50] <ForgeAus> you download .deb files
[12:50] <ForgeAus> but they don't install into windows
[12:50] <ForgeAus> of course
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> You can install the .deb file on a Windows system.
[12:50] <ForgeAus> they may be stored there tho...
[12:50] <ForgeAus> cygwin?
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> Then transfer them over to your Kubuntu using some storage device.
[12:51] <Beaver{rRr}> ok, where can i get these .deb packages?
[12:51] <ForgeAus> Max, thats copying not installing
[12:51] <ForgeAus> Beaver, lots of places... either ubuntu repositories
[12:51] <ForgeAus> (browse there manually)
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, if he downloads them using Windows and puts them onto Kubuntu, that solves the problem.
[12:51] <Beaver{rRr}> download from windows > copy flash device > copy kubuntu computer > install on kubuntu.
[12:51] <ForgeAus> or .deb files from other places on the internet
[12:51] <ForgeAus> thats it Beaver :)
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> Yep.
[12:51] <ForgeAus> doesn't have to be a flash device
[12:52] <Beaver{rRr}> thanks for adequate support ^_^
[12:52] <ForgeAus> (it could be reading an NTFS or VFAT partition under Kubuntu
[12:52] <Contrast> Is it possible to make it so .bak files aren't created everytime I change a text file?
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> Change directory (in a terminal) to whereever the .deb is stored.
[12:52] <ForgeAus> could be writing to an EXT3 partition under windows...
[12:52] <ForgeAus> just as long as the .deb is visible to the OS in question
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> Then "sudo apt-get install <PACKAGE-NAME>"
[12:52] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, write to ext3 from windows?
[12:52] <ForgeAus> yes
[12:52] <ForgeAus> fs-drivers's ext2ifs driver
[12:53] <ForgeAus> from.. fs-driver.org
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Most flash devices come with FAT* by default.
[12:53] <ForgeAus> note: thats possibly a "works for me" thing but I've had no problem with them
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> And unless they've repartitioned it, it will still be that way.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> (it even reads vmware virtual disks once they've been mounted)
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> And FAT32 should work fine.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> yes.. Fat32 should work fine
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> I doubt you'll come across a 4GB+ .deb file very often.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> lol
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> Btw, where does apt-get store the packages?
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Or does it delete them after install?
[12:55] <ForgeAus> /var/cache/apt
[12:55] <ForgeAus> (theres also a partial)
[12:55] <Maxdamantus> Ah.
[12:55] <ForgeAus> it can be set to delete after install
[12:55] <ForgeAus> depending on what tool you use
[12:55] <ForgeAus> to do the installation
[12:55] <Beaver{rRr}> am i need to copy downloaded deb's to /var/cache/apt?
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. I'll probably delete those.. Not really any point to have them.
[12:56] <ForgeAus> Beaver no
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, no, you don't need to.
[12:56] <Beaver{rRr}> ok
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> That's just where apt-get installs them when it downloads the packages automatically.
[12:56] <ForgeAus> .deb's can be installed easily from anywhere by right clicking and using install on the (actions?) submenu
[12:56] <Beaver{rRr}> ok, thanks
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> Installing with menus ftl.
[12:57] <ForgeAus> erm that is anywhere in a file manager like Konqi or Krusader or desktop, etc...
[12:57] <ForgeAus> I can't guarantee other file managers, and/or programs will work the same way...
[12:57] <Maxdamantus> Konqueror does.
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Which is the default file manager for KDE.
[12:58] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, for playing mp3s with amarok, i need libxine-extracodecs and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[12:58] <ForgeAus> at least until Dolphin takes over (if it does)
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Actually, it's in "Kubuntu package menu"
[12:58] <ForgeAus> Max, thanx, I wasn't sure I was right there, seems I was wrong...
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> I've always been used to installing things through the terminal.
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> All technical stuff - Terminal.
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> Apart from scripting, nano is annoying to use for that.
[01:00] <ForgeAus> nano is ok
[01:00] <ForgeAus> unless your a vi freak or emacs one
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> Not for writing large scripts.
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> Took about 5 secs to scroll to the bottom of my PHP bot using Page down there.
[01:01] <ForgeAus> I recommend using an ide for larger scripts but yes vi (inc nvi, gvim, etc) and/or emacs are also appropriate
[01:01] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, how to download all libxine1-ffmpeg depending packages under windows? only one-by-one?
[01:02] <Beaver{rRr}> sorry for my english.
[01:02] <ForgeAus> and yes nano will do it but as Max pointed out its not ideal in some respects
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> That should work.
[01:06] <HumpBack> Hello all
[01:06] <ForgeAus> eek experimental? ... hmmm ok...
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[01:06] <Maxdamantus> I dunno.
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> Only been using Debian about a week myself. :S
[01:07] <ForgeAus> Debian != Kubuntu ...
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> Ubuntu is Debian based.
[01:07] <ForgeAus> there are many similarities but also differences
[01:07] <ForgeAus> yes Ubuntu is based on Debian Linux thats true
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> ...
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> Well that's like saying Kubuntu isn't Linux.
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> Because it's a modified kernel.
[01:08] <ForgeAus> is it? I didn't know that...
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> I think so.
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> Well, it's like saying Gentoo isn't Linux.
[01:09] <ForgeAus> the kernel looked fairly generic on the surface
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> I know that's a modified kernel.
[01:09] <Beaver{rRr}> hmm, will experimental version works under my kubuntu or not?)
[01:10] <ForgeAus> Beaver, it SHOULD work...
[01:10] <Maxdamantus> Beaver{rRr}, experimental means it's not tested fully for stability.
[01:10] <ForgeAus> but bear in mind that it is experimental so be careful with it...
[01:10] <Maxdamantus> It should work, but probably best to get the latest stable version.
[01:10] <s1m0n3> hello all. i need help for a wifi adapter air-pcm350
[01:11] <paco_> hi
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Explaining problems helps. :P
[01:11] <paco_> hi everybody
[01:11] <paco_> its my first time in irc ubuntu
[01:11] <paco_> :)
[01:11] <paco_> exciting!
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Hello.
[01:12] <ForgeAus> paco are you using Konversation?
[01:12] <paco_> yes
[01:12] <ForgeAus> :)
[01:12] <paco_> why
[01:12] <paco_> ah :)
[01:12] <ForgeAus> no reason
[01:12] <paco_> okok
[01:12] <ForgeAus> just curiousity
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> XChat > Konversation
[01:12] <s1m0n3> i can see it under two names eth1 and wifio under iwconfig cmd!!
[01:12] <paco_> can I anything ask ?
[01:12] <ForgeAus> paco don't ask to ask, just ask
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Yes, you can anything ask.
[01:13] <ForgeAus> you'll either be ignored, or helped... (generally)
[01:13] <paco_> im trying to update my libc6 2.3.6 to 2.4 but i dont know how...
[01:13] <paco_> because my system says that ive already the lastest version
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Then you can't upgrade. :S
[01:13] <paco_> but
[01:14] <ForgeAus> can't is too strong a word there Max :)
[01:14] <paco_> im trying to install some modules and they say that i need libc6 >= 2.4
[01:14] <paco_> :____(
[01:14] <paco_> shit
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> Try "sudo apt-get update libc6"
[01:14] <paco_> a moment..
[01:14] <ForgeAus> modlues? are they source, .deb or what type of modules??
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> See if that works.
[01:15] <ForgeAus> (Max interesting info for you to ponder, most Slackware binaries work in Ubuntu/Kubuntu with no problem)...
[01:15] <paco_> dont works :(
[01:15] <paco_> shit...
[01:16] <paco_> what version of libc6 do u have?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> paco... what is the filetype?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> of the module
[01:16] <paco_> a paket of synaptic
[01:16] <ForgeAus> is it a .tgz? .deb? .rpm? .tar.gz, etc?
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, what do you mean by "Slackware binaries"?
[01:16] <ForgeAus> then a .deb
[01:16] <paco_> :(
[01:17] <paco_> shit, i need it for use bluetooth with python
[01:17] <ForgeAus> slackware uses .tgz packages right?... if you extract them, then binary (executable) files function normally under kubuntu...
[01:17] <paco_> im trying to manage a robot with the wiimote
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> When you compile something using GCC, it can usually work on most distribs as long as it has the correct libraries.
[01:17] <ForgeAus> unless they require to be put in a certain place (which I assume you have already sorted out)... etc...
[01:18] <ForgeAus> and that all the dependancies to run them are in place of course...
[01:18] <Maxdamantus> I was able to run my IRC server on Kubuntu, which I compiled on Gentoo.
[01:18] <ForgeAus> nice Max :)
[01:18] <Maxdamantus> When you download Firefox normally off http://getfirefox.com/ it's a binary.
[01:18] <paco_> aha
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Works on most distribs as long as you have all the libraries.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Alot of programs are like that.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> ePSXe is another one, it's not open source, but it's avaliable for Linux.
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Though that was compiled on Debian.
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> I was able to execute it on Gentoo, the very same binary.
[01:20] <ForgeAus> PCSX2 I compiled from source
[01:20] <ForgeAus> can you get emerge for kubuntu?
[01:20] <danboid> Anyone here use mint KDE DVD?
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> Probably.
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> All emerge does is it downloads the source and ebuild for a program.
[01:21] <ForgeAus> I sofar had pkgsrc (from BSD)
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> So it modifies the headers before compiling.
[01:21] <ForgeAus> and .deb and slackware packages
[01:21] <ForgeAus> (although I generally installed slackware ones manually)
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> Also configures for your system before compiling.
[01:21] <Maxdamantus> For extra stability.
[01:21] <danboid> Does Mint 2.2 KDE DVD come with DeVeDe, qdvdauthor, xdtv and cinelerra?
[01:21] <ForgeAus> danboid I have no idea
[01:21] <ForgeAus> perhaps you should ask in #Linux
[01:21] <danboid> I know it comes with k9copy, which is cool
[01:22] <ForgeAus> Mint isn't really a Kubuntu distribution that I'm aware of
[01:22] <mario> Hi
[01:22] <danboid> Well, theres no-one in #linuxmint and its based on ubuntu so heres my 2nd best bet- I need to find a full package list for the DVD version
[01:22] <ForgeAus> I have heard of it before...
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> Hi guy,,,
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> is there someone that can help me?
[01:23] <ForgeAus> dan, then two options either #linux or #Ubuntu may (or may not) know
[01:23] <MarioKubuntu> I've some questions about creative X-fi sound card
[01:23] <danboid> yeah, I'll try #ubuntu too, thanks
[01:24] <ForgeAus> no problem dan, good luck
[01:24] <MarioKubuntu> Is possible to install some driver for use creative xfi music edition card?
[01:24] <_3fg> How do I access an external hard drive that is connected through USB?
[01:24] <ForgeAus> mario I'm not certain how that works... linux uses Alsa (and/or arts?) as its software sound system
[01:24] <ForgeAus> I don't know if it has drivers for specific cards or not
[01:25] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, the kernel should.
[01:25] <ForgeAus> _3fg there is probably an /dev/ device for it...
[01:25] <ForgeAus> that you can mount
[01:25] <_3fg> I'll check again
[01:25] <MarioKubuntu> ForgeAus: I use alsa drivers... but I can't use it with this creative card :(
[01:25] <ForgeAus> but I'm not certain what it will be called...
[01:25] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me how to enable mp3 support for amarok through the command line?
[01:25] <spheard> none of the settings are being saved on my install of Kubuntu 6.10, Things like file-application association. and I keep geting a DCOP error flashing up
[01:26] <ForgeAus> fakepatriot I think you need to install some packages for mp3 support
[01:26] <_3fg> Ok, I did find it
[01:26] <_3fg> how do I mount it?
[01:26] <_3fg> and where is a good place to do it
[01:26] <MarioKubuntu> ForgeAus: another question.... I've amsn... cvs edition with antyaliasing but I see that is more slow... but only on ubuntu and kubuntu is there any kind of solution for it?
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> ForgeAus, where be the source for the kernel?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> use the command sudo mount /dev/<devicenamme> /mnt/<devicename>
[01:26] <_3fg> k
[01:27] <ForgeAus> (note: the second one could be any directory really)
[01:27] <fakepatriot> ForgeAus: i know that much, but whenever i try to do it through amarok it crashes...so i need to know how to do it through command line...
[01:27] <ForgeAus> that will be where it is accessible
[01:27] <ForgeAus> BUT one other note...
[01:27] <ForgeAus> there needs to be a /mnt directory existent so you may need to sudo mkdir /mnt/ first
[01:27] <_3fg> I also need a filesystem type
[01:27] <ForgeAus> um... auto?
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> Ah. Found it.
[01:27] <_3fg> heh
[01:27] <kristina> hi, where can I find a list of the colors I can use for grub?
[01:28] <_3fg> that was just what the console said
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Nvm. That's not it.
[01:28] <Maxdamantus> Ffs. Doesn't Kubuntu put the kernel source on there by default?
[01:28] <ForgeAus> sorry fake I odn't think I can help you
[01:28] <ForgeAus> Max I don't think so
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> :S
[01:29] <ForgeAus> it tends to be missing headers for lots of things unless you specifically add them
[01:29] <ForgeAus> (to streamline it, most people don't need them)
[01:29] <spheard> http://gallery01.moonet.co.uk/
[01:29] <spheard> whoops
[01:29] <spheard> didnt mean to paste that
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Gentoo is like an open source tank.
[01:30] <ForgeAus> yeah
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Everything you install is meant to be open source. :d
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Well, point is that you compile things from source.
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> So there isn't any easy way to configure your kernel?
[01:31] <ForgeAus> I don't know for sure I havn't tried in Kubuntu
[01:31] <ForgeAus> !kernel
[01:31] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:32] <spheard> has anyone heard anything about ndiswrapper causing kernel crashes in 7.04?
[01:32] <_3fg> ForgeAus: is there know way to mount it in Kubuntu using the GUI?
[01:32] <ForgeAus> I've heard of ndiswrapper but nothing about crashes in feisty
[01:32] <spheard>  ForgeAus:bit of a mess really
[01:32] <ForgeAus> 3fg yes in the system settings (administrative mode)
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Kubuntu default control centre ftl. :P
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> No idea why they did it that way.
[01:33] <_3fg> I click administrator mode and the window just sort of empties out
[01:34] <_3fg> all the items in the window disappear
[01:34] <ForgeAus> 3fg it should ask you for your user password
[01:34] <_3fg> it didn't
[01:34] <ForgeAus> brb I'll check where in there the mounting facility is... (I rarely use it)
[01:34] <ForgeAus> (and I'm booted into XP right now)
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Control Centre > Disk and File systems
[01:35] <ForgeAus> luckily I have a kubuntu install in Vmware
[01:35] <_3fg> Maxdamantus: yeah, I found it fine
[01:35] <_3fg> Whenever I click administrator mode it just gets this red box around the window and sits there
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> _3fg.
[01:38] <ForgeAus> the red box is correct
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Try in a terminal:
[01:38] <ForgeAus> but the blank window isn't
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> kdesu systemsettings
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> That might work.
[01:38] <dfeser> hi!
[01:38] <ForgeAus> it should run like kdesu the password authentication request...
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Enter your password when it asks for it.
[01:38] <_3fg> I got it working through another method
[01:38] <_3fg> thanks though
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> I like the manual mounting method. :)
[01:39] <dfeser> i use big desktop setup with fglrx...problems with fgl_glxgears...
[01:39] <_3fg> now I'll probably have to spend two hours adding repositories so I can download codecs so I can watch an avi
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> Just realised, systemsettings is the Kubuntu thing. :S
[01:39] <ForgeAus> also note if the location you mount it to is not under /home/<user> you probably will need to use sudo to write to it....
[01:39] <ForgeAus> Max sure is
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> I don't like it.
[01:40] <ForgeAus> its mostly a front end to kcontrol for the most part
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> I installed the normal KDE, so I could have the normal kde control centre. :P
[01:40] <ForgeAus> integrated with a few other odds and ends
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> Still has systemsettings if I run that though.
[01:40] <ForgeAus> I think of it mostly as a control panel
[01:41] <ForgeAus> (mostly because I'm used to windows - and in that respect, and not many others, macOS)
[01:41] <Maxdamantus> Actually, KDE calls it a Control Centre.
[01:41] <ForgeAus> KDE calls it kcontrol
[01:41] <Maxdamantus> Lol.   Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:44] <ForgeAus> (also called VideoLan Player.. not sure how exactly that gets abbreviated to VLC however)
[01:45] <noiesmo> _3fg, this is useful site for codecs etc ubuntu repos http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[01:47] <ForgeAus> its mostly based on a repository that has some non-free/OSS software...
[01:50] <_3fg> why can't I install VLC
[01:51] <_3fg> telling me I can't install it because I'm missing repos
[01:51] <_3fg> but I added all the repos I could
[01:51] <noiesmo> _3fg, sudo apt-get update
[01:52] <_3fg> I did
[01:52] <_3fg> I'm adding some more
[01:52] <_3fg> there we go
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. Where be the location I can add actions to keys?
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> Somewhere in Control centre, can't find it though.
[01:57] <Maxdamantus> Oh. Nvm.
[01:57] <ubuntu_> lo
[01:58] <demon^eye> hehe
[01:58] <demon^eye> back in here
[01:58] <vk2cvr> hi
[01:58] <demon^eye> lo admiral
[01:58] <demon^eye> this time onkabuntu hehe
[01:58] <vk2cvr> hehe
[02:01] <demon^eye> where the heck i add other lang to it?
[02:08] <soon> I need som help with a continously running fan on my Lenovo T60 laptop ... acpi prob maybe ... any suggestions which IRC channel is appropriate ???
[02:12] <Ketanga> hey
[02:12] <flake> hi Ketanga
[02:13] <maltaethiron> hey, is there an apt-get command for installing flash?
[02:13] <LjL> !flash
[02:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:13] <maltaethiron> ty
[02:14] <flake> what does it mean by restricted formats?  non-modifiable source code?
[02:14] <LjL> flake: no, not necessarily. it mostly means patent encumbered
[02:14] <LjL> (i.e. you are, in certain countries, expected to pay royalties if you use those formats)
[02:14] <LjL> MP3 for instance
[02:14] <flake> pay to play lol
[02:15] <LjL> not for given MP3 files, mind you, just for the fact of using an MP3 decoder
[02:15] <flake> ah
[02:15] <LjL> with non-free software such as, say, Winamp, the licenses are paid by the software house
[02:15] <LjL> in the case of Ubuntu, it's up to you
[02:16] <flake> so if I get winamp on ubuntu, I should be covered?
[02:16] <LjL> i don't know really, you'd have to read Winamp's EULA to be sure.
[02:16] <morpheus_> gonna ask what may be a silly question here but......how do you create a crontab event in kubuntu
[02:16] <LjL> which is why, anyway, using alternative formats is encouraged (such as Ogg Vorbis rather than MP3)
[02:16] <flake> thanks, will look into ogg
[02:17] <LjL> morpheus_: if you're talking about the systemwide crontab, just edit /etc/crontab, you should be able to guess the format by looking at existing entries
[02:17] <LjL> morpheus_: or "man crontab"
[02:18] <LjL> flake: (advance warning) don't make the mistake of converting MP3 files to Ogg, though. lossy-to-lossy format conversions are always a bad idea. if you have MP3 files without a non-compressed original source, just keep the MP3 files
[02:18] <flake> cool
[02:18] <LjL> use Ogg when ripping afresh
[02:18] <chijin> not many portable players support ogg
[02:19] <morpheus_> are the entries that are already there so that you can put other commands in hourly, daily and so on, while keeping them in separate files?
[02:19] <LjL> unfortunately true
[02:19] <chijin> a regular ipod user shouldn't rip to ogg
[02:19] <LjL> morpheus_: yes. you may prefer to do that rather than just adding stuff to the main crontab
[02:19] <LjL> why not?
[02:19] <LjL> !rockbox
[02:19] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[02:19] <chijin> LjL: i said regular :P
[02:20] <LjL> chijin: so? a *regular* ipod user who favors free software will get rockbox installed on their ipod
[02:20] <LjL> rather than apple's firmware
[02:21] <morpheus_> thnx LjL
[02:28] <lor3_83> hallo
[02:29] <demon^eye> where i add more fonts/lang to kabuntu ?
[02:29] <demon^eye> anyone>?
[02:30] <demon^eye> i found my self "10x"
[02:30] <lor3_83> !list
[02:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:33] <flake> vlc works good, I like xmms but does it use a MP3 codec or the orbiss decoder?
[02:35] <morpheus_> !cron
[02:35] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:36] <demon^eye> btw caffien aint run XviD files :(
[02:55] <whiles> hi everybody
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> Hi.
[02:55] <flake> how do they determine when a version is 'LTS'
[02:56] <whiles> do anyone know a plugin for konqueror/firefox to view mpg files in the browser
[02:56] <_3fg> whenever they feel it would make it shinier-seeming
[02:56] <flake> lol
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> whiles, I believe QuickTime can do that.
[02:56] <_3fg> like Web 2.0
[02:56] <flake> are the older versions still supported
[02:56] <_3fg> no different than anything else, it just sounds nicer
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Try going into Firefox, and type "about:plugins"
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> See if you have quicktime installed.
[02:57] <Hobbsee> flake: the lunar cycle.  aka, magic
[02:58] <PhinnFort> how do i change the language in the as-you-go spellchecker in openoffice?
[02:58] <whiles> Do quicktime for linux exist ??
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> whiles, yes it does.
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> I think Firefox came with it when I used aptitude.
[02:59] <PhinnFort> come on, it can't be that hard?
[02:59] <Assid> okay what would be better
[02:59] <PhinnFort> whiles: not per se, but there is codecs that allows the media players in Linux to play quicktime files
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> PhinnFort...
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ... what?
[03:00] <Assid> updating to 7.01 or fresh install of 701
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> I just opened OpenOffice, never used it before.
[03:00] <Assid> i dont really care much of the data
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> Found the language selector straight away.
[03:00] <PhinnFort> Maxdamantus: where?
[03:00] <PhinnFort> i must be blind
[03:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[03:00] <Maxdamantus> Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages
[03:00] <PhinnFort> but that sets defaults for the whole app
[03:00] <PhinnFort> i just want for one document
[03:01] <PhinnFort> (there's two separate versions of norwegian, i use one, but need one document in another)
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Then change it after you've saved that document.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> The language isn't saved with the document.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> The spell checking isn't saved inside the document either.
[03:01] <PhinnFort> sure?
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Spell checking is only done while editing the file.
[03:01] <Maxdamantus> Sure.
[03:02] <PhinnFort> well, i thought the odf had a tag for language
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> If you changed your language to Norwegian, and opened a file done in English.
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> It will underline all words that aren't Norwegian.
[03:02] <Maxdamantus> (With exceptions)