[00:19] <catbeard> how do i get ubuntu to stop turning off my tv when i lock my computer
[00:37] <rebab> how can I remove an installed program (tar)?
[00:38] <Sleaker> a tarred program is only 'installed' insofar as it's extracted onto your system
[00:38] <Sleaker> the typical method of installing software is via dpkg/apt which use the debian packaging system
[00:38] <OerHeks> depends what was in that tar, if you had to upack it and run the exectable, just remove that polder
[00:38] <Sleaker> so if you didn't install it via dpkg/apt then you're kind of on your own with what the tarred program did if you've run any sort of install scripts that came with it
[00:39] <Sleaker> if all you did was untar it. probably just delete the directly.
[00:39] <OerHeks> c/polder/folder
[00:39] <Sleaker> directory*
[00:41] <rebab> I've installed it (make install)
[00:42] <Sleaker> rebab: so you built some app from source.
[00:42] <Sleaker> rebab: you should check what the makefile does when install is called so you know how to reverse it
[00:42] <OerHeks> rebab, without knowing what program, i hope you build uninstall too :-D
[00:43] <OerHeks> so sparse with information, you can get many answers
[00:43] <Sleaker> rebab: basically, you've just done something to your system that we can't really tell you what it did, and you're not using the normal software installation method. You're kind of in the 'do it only if you know what you're doing' area.
[00:43] <OerHeks> what ubuntu version, what program, what manual did you follow?
[00:46] <rebab> i've figured it out. "make uninstall" worked
[00:47] <OerHeks> :-)
[01:12] <royal_screwup21> anyone know of sites like cryptopals, except for a different topic than cryptography? I like the challenges and how each subsequent challenge build on top of the previous ones https://cryptopals.com/
[01:22] <badSophia> how can i know it is 64bit or 32bit?
[01:23] <hggdh> badSophia: uname -i
[01:23] <Bashing-om> badSophia: 'uname -m' too :)
[01:23] <badSophia> x86-64 is 64bit or 32bit?
[01:24] <hggdh> badSophia: 64
[01:24] <badSophia> ah 8)
[01:24] <badSophia> thanks
[01:25] <rebab> me again. how can I remove a program's config file without remove it?
[01:29] <felipe_> .
[01:36] <ShadowWizard> I have tried install LAMP in a new install of 18.4 server twice using this guide https://dzone.com/articles/install-lamp-on-ubuntu-1804-1  And another time using another guide I can't find.  And mysql keeps demanding a password I never set.  As soon as I get to mysql_secure_installation it asks for a password.  My account password doesn't work.  Blank doesn't work.  What is going on?  Is there
[01:36] <ShadowWizard> a better guide to follow?
[01:37] <ShadowWizard> p.s.  By twice, I mean formatting the hdd and installing the OS again
[01:37] <cim209> why does ubuntu server require frequent reboots?
[01:37] <cim209> like every week or bi-weekly
[01:38] <CodeMouse92> cim209: It shouldn't. Most run without reboot for years on end. It probably has to do with your configuration.
[01:38] <OerHeks> openssl update, kernel update ..
[01:38] <cim209> CodeMouse92: the motd shows system restart required
[01:38] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: try this: sudo -s -u mysql mysql -u root
[01:38] <cim209> i'm on 18.04 LTS wit livepatch enabled
[01:39] <OerHeks> check out USN
[01:39] <CodeMouse92> cim209: Like OerHeks said...updates.
[01:39] <nisstyre> assuming you have a mysql user (grep mysql /etc/passwd to check)
[01:39] <OerHeks> https://usn.ubuntu.com/
[01:39] <cim209> i do have auto updates enabled but the amount of reboots in ridiculous
[01:39] <cim209> is*
[01:39] <OerHeks> if you have livepatch enabled, it secures 1 reboot
[01:39] <OerHeks> so you will need to reboot after al, but on your time
[01:40] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: error 1698 access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[01:40] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: try doing the mysql_secure_installation script with that
[01:40] <Bashing-om> cim209: https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch <- apply critical kernel security fixes without rebooting ,
[01:40] <cim209> Bashing-om: i do have that enabled
[01:41] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: How do I do that.  Please how me the enire command.
[01:41] <cim209> OerHeks: it's frequent
[01:41] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: I don't have the command. The suggestion is to run it as the "mysql" user
[01:41] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: you could try "sudo -s -u mysql", and then run the "mysql_secure_installation" script
[01:42] <OerHeks> cim209, sorry to hear that, but it is needed.
[01:42] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: I don't know how to do it.  Thats why i am asking.  I have no idea how it got a password.  i never gave it one.  i installed apache2, mysql-server, and then ran the script, and it asks for password
[01:42] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: are you sure it's not asking you for a password so it can SET one?
[01:43] <nisstyre> On my system that script says this: "In order to log into MariaDB to secure it, we'll need the current password for the root user.  If you've just installed MariaDB, and you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank, so you should just press enter here."
[01:43] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: no, because when I enter the password, it sa "Access denied doe user 'root'@'localhost'  Its a VM, I can show you a screenshot.
[01:43] <cim209> OerHeks: my dedicated takes forever to boot up
[01:43] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: well whatever script or tool you used to set it up must've set the root password then
[01:44] <nisstyre> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-reset-your-mysql-or-mariadb-root-password
[01:44] <cim209> just checked "cat /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs" and it says linux-base was updated
[01:44] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: I didn't use any.  It installed, then I typed the secure command.  Let me give you a screenshot
[01:44] <cim209> so i guess it's a necessity
[01:45] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: the documentation I just linked tells you how to reset the password without knowing it
[01:45] <cim209> ShadowWizard: your mysql root password is in /etc/mysql/conf.d/my.cnf
[01:45] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: How did a password get set?!?!?!  https://i.imgur.com/DqiwWy3.png
[01:45] <cim209> or something similar
[01:46] <nisstyre> ShadowWizard: that doesn't necessarily mean a password got set
[01:46] <nisstyre> it's just saying that you couldn't authenticate with the "root" user
[01:46] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: I will try resetting the password, but the last time I tried that it was to no avail..  brb
[01:49] <ShadowWizard> nisstyre: Now its says the unix socket file doesn't exist.. Same thing that was happenign last tiem I tried.  Screenshot coming
[01:50] <ShadowWizard> https://i.imgur.com/7Alm1BL.png
[01:50] <cim209> ShadowWizard: did you look in my.cnf?
[01:51] <ShadowWizard> cim209: The directions provided did not tell me to look in there.  But last tiem I did that (2 formats before this) it just has 2 inclides.
[01:52] <cim209> ShadowWizard: your root password gets saved in a cnf file in /etc/mysql, just look in all the files
[01:53] <ShadowWizard> My quesion is, HOW IS THIS HAPPENING!?!?!  Litreally.  Install ubuntu.  Rebooted VM.  Loged in.  Did update.  Installed apache2, installed mysql.  Ran script.  BAM!  Didn't work.
[01:56] <ShadowWizard> cim209: I found the password in a debian.conf file.. WTF?!  Anyway I reset the password and will try and reboot it and see what happens.
[01:56] <cim209> ShadowWizard: oh weird
[01:57] <cim209> normally it would be in a my.cnf
[01:57] <zFrostOP> hi
[01:57] <ShadowWizard> cim209: I know.  That files only has 2 includes.  This is TOTALLY FUCKED!  Literally BRAND NEW INSTALLS!
[01:58] <cim209> ShadowWizard: you should install mysql and your other stack in docker so if you mess up, you don't have to reinstall the whole OS
[01:59] <Scottbert__> I need a windows virtual machine to run quickbooks. Is there any reason that 32-bit vs 64-bit windows would matter for this?
[01:59] <ShadowWizard> cim209: changing that password didn't work.  Abd whats a docker?  I am not a linux guy my any strech of the imagination.  i am just trying to follow simple tutorials, and I am askee for passwords that don't exist!
[02:00] <ShadowWizard> cim209: Perhaps this is a massive BUG?
[02:00] <cim209> Scottbert__: 64-bit is recommended for higher ram machines
[02:00] <Scottbert__> I have 8G on the host system
[02:00] <cim209> 32-bit can only utilize up to 2gb of ram i think
[02:01] <ShadowWizard> Anyone else have any suggestions?  I can format again and re-install the OS, again..
[02:01] <Scottbert__> So there's no BENEFIT to using 32-bit, like lower resource usage
[02:01] <cim209> ShadowWizard: did you change the password with mysql_secure_installation
[02:02] <ShadowWizard> cim209: It wouldn't run.  I ran it, it asked for the current password, I gave it, sait it was wrong.  See the screenshot.  It shows i JUST installed mysql.
[02:03] <cim209> did you use the password from the cnf file
[02:03] <ShadowWizard> cim209: https://i.imgur.com/DqiwWy3.png
[02:03] <cim209> you're doing it wrong, try mysql -u root -p
[02:03] <ShadowWizard> cim209: After looking again, it wasn't the password for the root user, it was another password...
[02:04] <cim209> the password in the conf file is the mysql root user password
[02:04] <ShadowWizard> cim209: WHAT config file?
[02:04] <cim209> you said you found it in debian.conf?
[02:04] <ShadowWizard> No, it was the wrong one..  Just a sec, let me look around at a couple of things..
[02:06] <cim209> ShadowWizard: https://i.imgur.com/FhzLAoY.png
[02:07] <ShadowWizard> cim209: Yea, wish it was that simple...  Let me show you the mess I have.
[02:08] <Guest93471> hello
[02:08] <ShadowWizard> cim209: https://i.imgur.com/dUQ2Rp8.png
[02:08] <ShadowWizard> more to come
[02:08] <Scottbert__> So, whenever I look up virtualizing windows I get to a step where I'm advised to install a bunch of packages
[02:09] <cim209> check if your password is in one of those files
[02:09] <Scottbert__> but libvirt-bin is not available
[02:09] <Scottbert__> What do I do about it?
[02:09] <Guest93471> ip tracker ?
[02:09] <ShadowWizard> cim209: I did.. please be paitent so I can show you the mess.
[02:10] <ShadowWizard> https://i.imgur.com/SxSti7C.png
[02:11] <cim209> ShadowWizard: so what the others said didn't work? stop mysql and then sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &
[02:11] <Scottbert__> NM, eventually googled the right words to learn that it's been obsoleted in favor of libvirt-daemon
[02:11] <ShadowWizard> cim209: SAid it couldn't open a socket or something..
[02:11] <cim209> maybe your mysql install is borked
[02:11] <ShadowWizard> cim209: TWICE?!
[02:12] <cim209> idk
[02:12] <Guest93471> how to install photoshop CC on Ubuntu?
[02:12] <ShadowWizard> cim209: again.  Did the followinsg.  Erased the VM.  Installed ubuntu.  Updated.  Installed apache2, Installed mysql.  Ran script, BANG! Didn't work.
[02:12] <ShadowWizard>  Erased the VM.  Installed ubuntu.  Updated.  Installed apache2, Installed mysql.  Ran script, BANG! Didn't work.
[02:12] <ShadowWizard> Yes, TWICE!
[02:13] <cim209> what is the script?
[02:13] <ShadowWizard> cim209:
[02:13] <ShadowWizard> mysql_secure_installation
[02:14] <Guest93471> what are you guys talking about ?
[02:14] <cim209> ShadowWizard: yeah weird
[02:14] <cim209> Guest93471: mysql issues
[02:15] <ShadowWizard> Is there another tutorial I can follow to get LAMP working?  Not that I think it will matter, because its gonna have me do the same thing.
[02:16] <cim209> ShadowWizard: idk, i don't use apache
[02:16] <cim209> i have LEMP stack
[02:16] <ShadowWizard> I think apache is irrilevent at this point..  Because its the mysql thats not working.
[02:17] <ShadowWizard> I can try the whole thing again, and install mysql first instead.
[02:17] <Guest93471> why i cant scroll with twofinger ? i have alredy turn on my natural scrolling
[02:17] <ShadowWizard> But from my limited knowedge, it shouledn't make a difference,.
[02:18] <Guest93471> when i first intall ubuntu its work but now didnt work...
[02:19] <ShadowWizard> Guest12399: Welcome to my world.  The only thing I can come up with at this point is there is a MAJOR bug in it somewhere thats fuckign everythign up.
[02:20] <cim209> lol
[02:20] <Guest93471> -_-
[02:22] <Guest93471> backbox and ubuntu ? which better ?
[02:22] <ShadowWizard> cim209: Did you see the my.cnf file?  2 inclides, thats it
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Guest93471: You ask that in the ubuntu channel .. bet on the response you get :)
[02:23] <Guest93471> oww sorry
[02:27] <OerHeks> yeah, go with backtrack, kali is old
[02:28] <programmerq> Is there an install method to get a bootable USB drive that's a full/portable ubuntu installation?
[02:28] <OerHeks> put the iso on 1 usb, and perform the install to the 2nd
[02:29] <programmerq> yeah I should probably just do that. I've tried doing usb passthrough on virtualbox and vmware from osx, and I even looked into how to pass through a usb drive on hyper-v on windows 10. (I don't have a currently running linux box at the moment)
[02:30] <OerHeks> you could deploy a vmware image, and store it on usb
[02:30] <OerHeks> running from usb is sad
[02:31] <programmerq> goal of running from USB is to test how well it works on some different laptop hardware without nuking the existing OS
[02:31] <nima> Ok guys, the Ubuntu community convinced me . . . I am gonna try Ubuntu LTS as my new webserver.
[02:31] <programmerq> last time I tried running linux  on a laptop was over a decade ago
[02:31] <programmerq> and it didn't go well
[02:31] <programmerq> so I'm not ready to nuke the existing os
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> programmerq: I wouldn't think that is a fair assessment though, since your bottle necked by the throughput of the USB device
[02:31] <nima> I was asking this question earlier today, and was unfortunately disconnected.
[02:32] <ShadowWizard> Found solution.  I wasn't using sudo when runnign the script..
[02:32] <programmerq> I'm not worried about speed-- I'm worried about whether trackpad/wifi/etc work out of the box.
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> programmerq: you couldn't assess performance, you could test functionality
[02:32] <programmerq> function keys, brightness
[02:32] <programmerq> yup
[02:32] <programmerq> that's my goal
[02:32] <nima> Does anyone know of a guide to creating an LXC image of Ubuntu Server for my virtulazation server?
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> programmerq: and for that, you just need to image the live installer to the USB drive... no need for extra stuff
[02:33] <OerHeks> in these 10 years linux made a huge jump, but an installation swapping from machine to machine,.. the GPU driver might need some work
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> programmerq: with USB you can get persistance though, which allows you to place on your desired settings for things
[02:33] <programmerq> yup, persistence is part of what I need for testing different settings over several boots
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> programmerq: You can make a persistant USB... it's not hard
[02:34] <programmerq> pragmaticenigma▸ that was my lead in question...
[02:34] <programmerq> and I got an answer
[02:34] <programmerq> and I'm going for it
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> ah, okay... saw a rabbit hole of vmware and all sorts of other things
[02:35] <programmerq> yup, lol
[02:35] <Deihmos> when i login it says 26 packages can be updated. 13 updates are security updates
[02:36] <Bashing-om> programmerq: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent .
[02:36] <Deihmos> i have the server set for just security updates
[02:36] <programmerq> Bashing-om▸ I had come across that, but the only linux systems I have at the moment are virtualized, hence my previous rabbit hole of vmware and usb passthrough
[02:36] <nima> Ok well, anyone here have any experience with creating LXC containers in Ubuntu?
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | Deihmos
[02:39] <Bashing-om> programmerq: :D Then as OerHeks Pointed out ... 2 USBs should do the trick.
[02:39] <programmerq> yup!
[02:39] <nima> programmerq: Please keep in mind that not all USB drives are created equally, there were some FreeNAS installs that wore out their USB boot drive quite quickly and crashed.
[02:39] <programmerq> I'm certainly not worried about that for this short term functionality verification exercise.
[02:41] <sethj> Can I get a GRUB commandline from a liveUSB?
[02:42] <sethj> deleted the partition with my GRUB without thinking.. need to boot windows somehow to repair its MBR
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> !recovery | sethj
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> sethj: Sorry... that might have the information you're looking for
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> sethj: The answer to your question is yes, you can use the Live image to fix your machine
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> sethj: I think this is what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[02:44] <sethj> pragmaticenigma: yeah, there's no Linux left on this machine atm.
[02:46] <sethj> I thought I could get a grub command prompt from the liveUSB to manually boot windows, but it doesn't seem like that's actually an option
[02:47] <OerHeks> use a windows iso to fix that
[02:47] <scott_> Okay thunderbird is losing all its passwords every time I close and reopen it
[02:47] <scott_> This is untenable, any advice?
[02:47] <sethj> OerHeks: I don't have one handy, but I guess I might have to
[02:48] <OerHeks> its a free download on the ms site, AFAIK
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: Did you change settings in Thunderbird to not allow it to store passwords?
[02:50] <OerHeks> remove/backup  the ~/.thunderbird folder and setup fresh
[02:51] <scott_> I don't think I messed up the settings... I'd really rather not have to resetup all my mail accounts...
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: Thunderbird doesn't randomly forget how to save passwords... you would have had to changed a setting, installed an extension ... what was the last thing you remember doing?
[02:54] <scott_> <_< Copying my entire user profile over from windows and being amazed that it actually loaded. And then after the first time this happened I deleted what was the password store according to a google search to see if it would remake it.
[02:54] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: how did you delete it? where are the instructions?
[02:54] <scott_> I guess this is somewhat an unsupported situation, but it'd be nice if there's just an option somewhere I need to
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: moving the profile over is supported by thunderbird... however manually editing the profile directory is not
[02:55] <[n0mad]> scott_: tried this? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1239779
[02:55] <OerHeks> check your keyring/passwordstorage for multiple thunderbird instances?
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: Thunderbird doesn't use the system keyrings
[02:57] <[n0mad]> seems to be a pretty common occurrence according to the goog though.
[02:57] <scott_> That's... weird. I THOUGHT I renamed pkcs11.txt to pkcs11.bak, but I don't see a .bak file here
[02:58] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: use terminal to look... some file managers hide .bak files
[02:59] <scott_> Holy crap. Closed thunderbird, deleted that file, opened thunderbird... and it's not even PROMPTING me for passwords now, it's remembering even ones that I've forgotten and hadn't re-entered yet on linux! Amazing!
[03:00] <scott_> Wow. Thunderbird and waterfox have been THE easiest part of moving to linux, at least.
[03:01] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: gald you seem to have it solved.
[03:02] <pragmaticenigma> scott_: as I'm sure you doing, make sure you keep a backup of things you're moving over, just in case. Always a good idea to keep backups of everything
[03:03] <Mininessie> Does have a good tutorial on installing Linux on a uefi bios
[03:05] <scott_> Yeah. I copied from the old c:\users\scott\appdata\roaming\Thunderbird to ~\.thunderbird
[03:06] <scott_> Now back to working on this virtual machine for quickbooks
[03:12] <OerHeks> !uefi
[04:00] <eforever> Hello
[04:00] <eforever> Any one here?
[04:10] <kinghat> there are these online SVG editors and they have a nice grouping on fonts. is there a way to get like a font pack for ubuntu?
[04:14] <OerHeks> ubuntu studio has a font metapackage, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntustudio-fonts
[04:14] <OerHeks> and install synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter
[04:15] <OerHeks> !info synpatic
[04:15] <OerHeks> !info synpatics
[04:15] <OerHeks> with an a i presume
[04:15] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[04:16] <jtnunley> i think my ftp client isn't working, i'm trying to connect to ftp localhost but no matter what username and password i use it doesnt work
[04:16] <jtnunley> im using pure-ftpd by the way
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: be carefull with ftp, its a security flaw these days
[04:17] <jtnunley> im trying to write an app that downloads files from an ftp server, and im trying to test it but i cant make an account
[04:17] <jtnunley> is there a better alternative?
[04:18] <jtnunley> (to store files for download)
[04:19] <Eickmeyer> !synaptic
[04:19] <Eickmeyer> !muon
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: you want to download automated 24/7 from an ftp?
[04:20] <Eickmeyer> Muon works really well even on a GTK desktop, imo.
[04:20] <jtnunley> lotuspsychje: its complicated. i want to have the user input an option and then download a file from a server
[04:23] <jtnunley> i didnt want to write more software (im not a good coder :-/) so i just thought i could run an ftp server to do it
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> not sure i follow jtnunley
[04:23] <jtnunley> basically
[04:23] <jtnunley> i want to have a server where i can download files from, using an app
[04:24] <jtnunley> (that i write)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: are you on ubuntu-server?
[04:24] <jtnunley> no, why?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: because we would like to know your purpose
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: so you are going to host a fileserver from ubuntu desktop, and then let users download from you?
[04:25] <jtnunley> not ubuntu desktop
[04:25] <jtnunley> im currently running ubuntu desktop just to test my stuff
[04:26] <xiaxiaoyu12138> 我叫HL
[04:26] <jtnunley> but once its done ill run it on a server
[04:27] <jtnunley> basically what im asking is, whats the best alternative to ftp?
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: that really depends on your purpose
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: you can host files so many different ways, like sftp, ssh in a box, apache, nextcloud,..
[04:28] <jtnunley> what do you mean?
[04:28] <jtnunley> isnt apache just an http server?
[04:28] <jtnunley> cuz i can run apache relaively easily
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: please think in yourself what you want first, this way volunteers can help you the best way
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> jtnunley: right now you say you want to host ubuntu desktop somewhere for a fileserver 24/7?
[04:32] <jtnunley> no not ubuntu desktop, server
[04:32] <jtnunley> yes
[04:32] <jtnunley> yes i want a 24/7 fileserver
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> allright, oof :p come join to #ubuntu-server and explain what kind of fileserver you would like
[04:33] <jtnunley> oh ok
[05:11] <minty-man> Hi all what is the ubuntu package for video codex
[05:12] <minty-man> codex - codecs
[05:13] <Bashing-om> minty-man: libvdpau1 ??
[05:14] <minty-man> Bashing-om, no matching package name
[05:15] <Bashing-om> !info libvdpau1 bionic | minty-man
[05:17] <minty-man> that is weird thanks though
[05:19] <Bashing-om> minty-man: What release are you on ?  libvdpau1 maybe recent .
[05:19] <minty-man> its ok wrong spelling in synaptic lol silly me
[05:32] <mnathani> is netplan here to stay, or will we need to learn a new method of configuring networking in the next couple of years?
[05:55] <oem> hi
[06:00] <adh> cam support for ubuntu?
[06:00] <adh> to control pc fans?
[06:00] <adh> https://www.nzxt.com/camapp
[06:03] <adh> looking for something to control my fans
[06:03] <zogzog> anyone wanna help me troubleshoot wifi on a laptop that has good wifi but I got a new wireless router and now the laptop won't connect via wifi?
[06:03] <adh> https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[06:04] <scott_> I'm having trouble accessing my samba shares from the windows VM. My linux login username and password aren't authenticating, does samba use different credentials?
[06:04] <zogzog> dmesg output is REASON 2  which is  	"Previous authentication no longer valid"
[06:04] <zogzog> and the auth is confirmed the correct auth and connecting to the right AP
[06:11] <adh> if i buy a pc with rgb strip lights, will i be able to control the lights with ubuntu?
[06:18] <transfusion> adh: depends on your PC, i guess...
[06:19] <transfusion> for example, gigabyte's rgb sdk only ships as a dll....
[06:19] <evelyn> test
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> evelyn: we see you, it works
[06:20] <evelyn> hy lotuspsychje...
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> you joined the ubuntu support channel evelyn
[06:23] <evelyn> just like a forum for all user?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> evelyn: you could say that yes, but more livesupport style
[06:24] <evelyn> lotuspsychje: thank you...just finish install my first ubuntu....
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> evelyn: welcome to the ubuntu community, glad you chosen it
[06:45] <scott_> Okay, so now windows says it 'doesn't have permission' to access the file even though it authenticated with samba
[06:46] <scott_> Also, I can't make more samba shares, I check the box and configuyre them and click okay but it doesn't stick
[06:47] <scott_> What on earth is going on? Under what circumstances does linux think I'd check the samba share box but not really mean it? And why does it not give me an error message but quietly fail?
[07:00] <scott_> sudo kate file
[07:00] <scott_> The error message says it won't work
[07:00] <scott_> but following the error message's instructions ALSO DON'T WORK
[07:00] <murthy> scott_: hi
[07:00] <scott_> HOW DO YOU EDIT A SYSTEM FILE
[07:01] <scott_> What was wrong with sudo kate file
[07:01] <murthy> scott_: why dont you use nano?
[07:01] <murthy> scott_: sudo nano <filename>
[07:01] <scott_> I don't know what that is, but why does linux care what text editor I'm using?
[07:02] <murthy> scott_: nano is a cli based text editor
[07:02] <murthy> scott_: People have advised not to use sudo on kde apps
[07:02] <murthy> scott_: you should use kdesudo
[07:03] <scott_> Well fudge, while trying to edit the file I closed nano, now opening it again complains it's already open
[07:03] <murthy> scott_: open ksysguard and end the process
[07:03] <scott_> kdesudo is command not found
[07:04] <scott_> The process is stopped but not closing
[07:05] <scott_> I am now something like 5 levels deep into solving the problem of 'my windows VM can't open a file from my samba share'
[07:05] <murthy> scott_: I think you need to install kdesudo
[07:05] <murthy> scott_: why not use nano
[07:06] <murthy> scott_: kill the process
[07:06] <scott_> Because the interface is atrocious and if I wanted to use vi I'd be 15 years ago
[07:07] <murthy> scott_: have you added your user with the vboxsf group?
[07:07] <scott_> Sorry, sorry, I am just... annoyed that I'm like 6 levels deep on this problem now
[07:08] <murthy> scott_: I can understand your frustration, but as it is you have to deal with it now
[07:08] <murthy> use nano
[07:08] <murthy> its not live vi, its simple
[07:08] <RPG_Master> Y'all I done messed up. I set up my Kubuntu install with an LVM cache using my new small SSD. All was well, until I rebooted. Now I'm being dropped into a Grub prompt.
[07:08] <scott_> Killing doesn't seem to be working. Right now I'm in the process of trying to edit my samba config to force user, because the shared folders are on mounted ntfs drives
[07:09] <vanni> hello
[07:09] <scott_> kdesudo is not in the package manager
[07:09] <murthy> RPG_Master: Did you restart before the setup finished?
[07:10] <murthy> scott_: terminate the process
[07:10] <vanni> I have the problems that every time the dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf change, and every time I must change it
[07:10] <murthy> vanni: hello
[07:10] <RPG_Master> murthy, This was an existing install, but setup I mean getting the LVM cache working.
[07:10] <vanni> how may I make permanent it ?
[07:10] <vanni> murthy, hello
[07:11] <vanni> 18.04 LTS
[07:11] <murthy> RPG_Master: what is the ubuntu version from which you upgraded and to what?
[07:11] <scott_> Closed and reopened package manager and still not there, unless you meant nano which is apparently not dying
[07:11] <murthy> vanni: Install
[07:11] <scott_> $ ps -all | grep nano
[07:11] <vanni> Install what ?
[07:11] <scott_> 4 T     0 19100 19099  0  80   0 -  3384 -      pts/1    00:00:00 nano
[07:11] <scott_> 19100 is the pid, right?
[07:11] <murthy> scott_: what do you mean by package manager?
[07:12] <murthy> scott_: you are trying to close the nano process right?
[07:12] <scott_> Yes.
[07:12] <scott_> Forget the package manager, that was re: lacking kdesudo
[07:12] <RPG_Master> murthy, No, I didn't upgrade. This was a fresh install from 2 months ago when I built this PC. All I did was set up LVM caching with the existing install.
[07:12] <murthy> scott_: restart is possible?
[07:12] <RPG_Master> I'm currently running an old Ubuntu 18.04 install I had on another drive sitting in my PC. Its also not even letting me mount my LVM group.
[07:13] <scott_> I guess I can restart. Do you mean log out and in again, or full reboot?
[07:13] <RPG_Master> Or whatever its called. I can see the HDD under the Disks program, and that they are LVM2, but it won't let me mount it.
[07:14] <murthy> vanni: You are on live linux right?
[07:14] <vanni> murthy, no installed
[07:14] <murthy> RPG_Master: Sorry I don't know about LVM stuff
[07:14] <scott_> murthy: I guess I can restart. Do you mean log out and in again, or full reboot?
[07:15] <murthy> scott_: full reebot
[07:15] <murthy> reboot
[07:16] <murthy> vanni: Then what do you mean by "make permanent"?
[07:16] <vanni> yes, in /etc/resolv.conf is written to see man SYSTEMD-RESOLVED.SERVICE(8)
[07:17] <vanni> but I don't understand much of this man page
[07:17] <van777> vanni: i've edited DNS in GUI in top right corner of ubuntu.. connection settings..
[07:18] <vanni> I hven't this connection setting
[07:19] <vanni> I'm using ubuntu 18.04 server with xfce
[07:19] <murthy> RPG_Master: Are you sure you are not having more than one Grub?
[07:20] <scott_> So... What is the correct way to solve my VM being unable to open a file from a samba share?
[07:21] <murthy> scott_: you are using vbox or vmware?
[07:21] <scott_> kvm
[07:22] <murthy> scott_: See If you need to be on some group to have permissions
[07:22] <murthy> scott_: If you need to edit use nano
[07:22] <murthy> scott_: What were you trying to edit?
[07:22] <scott_> smb.conf
[07:22] <scott_> No idea if that's what I ACTUALLY needed to do
[07:23] <van777> vanni: http://irc.do.am/10-21-14.png don't you have these settings??
[07:24] <scott_> How do I restart samba after changing smb.conf?
[07:25] <scott_> nm googled that
[07:27] <scott_> murthy: No dice. Windows can browse the folder same as before, but trying to do anything with a file gives me a complaint about not having access
[07:28] <vanni> van777, no, what do u use to paste desktop ?
[07:29] <van777> vanni: "screenshot" and uploading it to my free hosting
[07:30] <murthy> scott_: Check the permissions of the shared folder
[07:30] <murthy> scott_: is the windows user added to the shared folder users
[07:30] <van777> vanni: if you're on server, there is #ubuntu-server for cli stuff
[07:31] <scott_> How d I make ls -la show me the folder itself instead of iots contents?
[07:31] <scott_> All the files in it are -rwxrwxrwx
[07:32] <vanni> van777, server is the same , have same repository
[07:32] <murthy> scott_: No root shared folder
[07:32] <scott_> windows authenticated as my username which I added to samba
[07:33] <scott_> Murthy: How do I make ls -la show me the folder itself instead of its contents?
[07:33] <murthy> scott_: that I dont know
[07:34] <murthy> scott_: does your user own that directory?
[07:34] <van777> vanni: you can edit your current connection , adding dns servers in GUI. You don't need /etc/resolv.conf
[07:35] <van777> vanni: it works for me, that's why i advise this..
[07:35] <scott_> It's a directory on an ntfs drive that I have mounted
[07:35] <murthy> oh
[07:36] <scott_> . /media/scott/J4/installs (where J4 is the name of the partition)
[07:36] <vanni> every time ubuntu make dhclient change /etc/resolv.conf
[07:36] <murthy> scott_: that could be the issue
[07:36] <murthy> scott_: On kubuntu when a new drive is mounted on /media/user/
[07:37] <murthy> scott_: for example /media/user/Movies, Movies folder is readonly
[07:37] <scott_> That's why I added force user = scott to smb.conf
[07:37] <murthy> scott_: No see If you have read write permission on the host system
[07:37] <scott_> Readonly? But I just edited some files on the ntfs partitions earlier...
[07:38] <murthy> scott_: what does stat of j4 says?
[07:38] <scott_> stat of?
[07:38] <murthy> stat  /media/scott/J4
[07:38] <ledeni> vanni try to run 'nm-connection-editor' in terminal and set there your dns
[07:39] <scott_>   File: /media/scott/J4
[07:39] <scott_>   Size: 163840          Blocks: 320        IO Block: 4096   directory
[07:39] <scott_> Device: 832h/2098d      Inode: 5           Links: 1
[07:39] <scott_> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: ( 1000/   scott)   Gid: ( 1000/   scott)
[07:39] <scott_> Access: 2019-03-08 19:30:38.401487000 -0500
[07:39] <scott_> Modify: 2019-03-08 19:30:21.368592200 -0500
[07:39] <murthy> scott_: stop
[07:39] <murthy> scott_: Use paste.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <scott_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8YhRBRh7fS/
[07:40] <murthy> scott_: you have full permission
[07:41] <murthy> scott_: and you shared j4?
[07:41] <scott_> sounds good. And yet, full permission is not enough to do what I want to do...?
[07:41] <scott_> I shared j4/installs
[07:41] <scott_> installs being a directory where I saved installers
[07:42] <murthy> scott_: Do you have full permission on installs dir?
[07:43] <scott_> This line is the same
[07:43] <scott_> Access: (0777/drwxrwxrwx)  Uid: ( 1000/   scott)   Gid: ( 1000/   scott)
[07:43] <murthy> scott_: wait
[07:45] <scott_> ?
[07:46] <murthy> scott_: You added your user to the smb.conf file?
[07:47] <scott_> I set a samba password for user scott from the command line and then added force user = scott to the config under [global]
[07:50] <murthy> scott_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/649831/samba-group-access-permissions
[07:52] <murthy> scott_: have you set "valid users = <youruser>"?
[07:53] <scott_> I have not, in what section would that go?
[07:53] <murthy> scott_: Also can you see if this happens when a directory in the home folder is shared?
[07:53] <scott_> Oh, I can't share a directory in the home folder. That's another layer on the problem, one thing at a time.
[07:54] <scott_> In what section should I put valid users = scott ?
[07:54] <murthy> scott_: I dont know
[07:55] <murthy> scott_: Is there a section with your user name?
[07:55] <scott_> Ah, found it. Anyway, relogging because apparently I need to do that after adding user o group
[07:55] <murthy> ok
[07:58] <scott_> murthy: No dice, windows still can't access files in the directory
[07:59] <scott_> Man, I remember a few years ago I could setup samba shares and they just worked, windows machines on the network could connect fine
[07:59] <scott_> I wonder what changed
[08:00] <scott_> And yes, that was with sharing folders inside mounted ntfs drives and everything
[08:01] <murthy> scott_: You could ask people here after 8hrs when people are active
[08:01] <murthy> scott_: More advanced users will be available
[08:01] <scott_> I switched partly because win10 was just getting worse and worse, but... is linux also just getting worse?
[08:02] <scott_> I swear it was way simpler to use like 6ish years ago
[08:02] <murthy> scott_: Linux is migrating to newer stuff
[08:02] <scott_> 'sharing a folder on a network' shouldn't require an 'advanced user'
[08:02] <murthy> scott_: So there may be some changes that we are unaware
[08:02] <murthy> scott_: I had used samba many years ago
[08:02] <scott_> Windows is migrating to newer stuff too, that's kind of its problem
[08:03] <scott_> newer isn't always better...
[08:03] <murthy> scott_: I handled everything, Since I haven't used it for a long time, I forgot everything related
[08:04] <murthy> scott_: May be
[08:05] <murthy> scott_: But, If you try again later here, people will definitely help you to resolve your problem
[08:07] <scott_> Thanks for trying
[08:08] <murthy> scott_: can you try one more thing
[08:08] <scott_> I can't believe that 'share files with a windows guest VM on an ubuntu host' is an unsolved problem...
[08:08] <scott_> Like... how do people get any USE out of their VMs...
[08:09] <murthy> scott_: I usually share files between virtualbox guest and the host via the folder sharing feature
[08:09] <murthy> scott_: For that to work you need to install the vbox guest extension
[08:10] <scott_> kvm also has a foldr sharing feature but there is no clear documentation anywhere about using it with a windows guest
[08:10] <murthy> scott_: I vaguely remember a setting where you add the user name who will be allowed to use the shared folder and there will be an option to allow everyone
[08:11] <murthy> scott_: can you see if "allow everyone" works? just for testing purpose after that set it back to your user name
[08:11] <scott_> I already gave everyone read permission in the samba share anyway
[08:12] <murthy> scott_: oh ok
[08:12] <scott_> waaaait a minute
[08:12] <scott_> actually I am unable to add or change any samba shared
[08:13] <scott_> I can tick boxes and set dropdowns but it doesn't DO anything
[08:13] <murthy> oh
[08:13] <scott_> The current state of the installs share is 'everyone: read only' and no mention of my user
[08:13] <murthy> ah
[08:13] <scott_> is scott part of everyone? Or does it not work that way?
[08:13] <murthy> no
[08:14] <murthy> everyone is scott with others
[08:14] <murthy> I mean yes scott is part of everyone
[08:14] <scott_> I'm not sure what the right way to even google this problem... the samba tab in folder properties comes up, I can click stuff, but clicking OK never saves changes, for this or other folders.
[08:15] <murthy> Everyone can't be readonly
[08:15] <murthy> Others can be readonly
[08:15] <scott_> well it is, it says everyone has read only
[08:15] <murthy> Scott should be rw
[08:16] <murthy> I mean rwx
[08:16] <scott_> Yes, that's what I set it to but no changes do anything
[08:16] <murthy> scott_: Did you use sudo on your home directory?
[08:17] <murthy> scott_: use of sudo messes up the config file's permissions
[08:17] <scott_> What do you mean by 'on' my home directory?
[08:18] <murthy> scott_: the normal user wont be able to modify the config file because it is owned by the root
[08:18] <scott_> I did sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf or whatever the path was
[08:18] <murthy> "/home/user/"
[08:18] <scott_> I don't understand what you mean about using sudo 'on' a directory, though
[08:18] <murthy> scott_: that is not a problem
[08:19] <murthy> scott_: for example
[08:19] <murthy> scott_: you do sudo kate myfile
[08:19] <scott_> I use sudo to run commands, I don't pass it... directories
[08:19] <scott_> Well if I do that it'll tell me I can't sudo kate
[08:19] <murthy> scott_: kate writes its config file on /home/user/.config/.kate
[08:20] <murthy> scott_: the .kate config file is now owned by root
[08:20] <murthy> so when you open kate normaly and it tries to write to .kate, it will fail
[08:20] <scott_> So... since dolphin is being run by me and smb.conf is owned by root, dolphin can't possibly make new shares?
[08:21] <scott_> But... how did it make the first one...?
[08:21] <murthy> scott_: dolphin is not sharing
[08:21] <murthy> scott_: the samba server?
[08:22] <erle-> I am getting «network protocol errors» when opening Internet Archive in Firefox
[08:22] <erle-> works in Chrome
[08:22] <erle-> Can anyone reproduce? Example: https://web.archive.org/web/19990427014529/http://www.mklinux.apple.com/
[08:22] <scott_> Right, but dolphin is the file manager I'm using, where I right click a folder, choose properties, and go to the samba tab
[08:22] <erle-> Cosmic with all updates installed.
[08:23] <scott_> Works in my waterfox
[08:23] <erle-> I had that a few weeks ago as well and then it worked again and now it seems more presistent.
[08:23] <murthy> erle-: opens in firefox without any problem
[08:23] <scott_> murthy: So I'm not sure what you're sayingt the permissions are corrupted on
[08:24] <erle-> with new Firefox profile it seems to work
[08:24] <erle-> let me check
[08:24] <scott_> and how it's preventing me from adding or editing samba shares
[08:24] <murthy> scott_: simple put avoid using sudo on kde apps
[08:24] <murthy> simply
[08:26] <erle-> sudo on Xorg apps is not a good idea anyway
[08:26] <scott_> I don't understand how this is preventing my samba config from changing though
[08:27] <Ben_X> Hello, I keep getting a system program problem detected error on boot of my system, I was wondering if anyone could help me?
[08:27] <erle-> also you have your /root full of desktop config files then
[08:27] <murthy> scott_: when you change the samba settings on the folder where does the settings get saved?
[08:28] <scott_> presumably /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:28] <murthy> Ben_X: can system for corrupt stuff
[08:28] <murthy> Ben_X: use debsums
[08:28] <erle-> Where can I see more Firefox debug info than the error page? Opened it in Terminal alread.
[08:29] <murthy> Ben_X: "debsums -s" is the command
[08:29] <scott_> what the... no, the shares aren't in therer
[08:29] <scott_> but when I typed
[08:29] <scott_> net usershare info --long
[08:29] <scott_> It showed me the share's info
[08:29] <scott_> Where the hell is it saved then?!
[08:30] <murthy> erle-: See if firefox has a debug flag
[08:30] <erle-> that opens it in ggdb, murthy :D
[08:30] <erle-> I don't need that level of debugging
[08:31] <Ben_X> murthy: it says command "debsums" not found
[08:32] <murthy> erle-: ya I saw that
[08:32] <murthy> erle-: Do you need the history and cookies?
[08:33] <murthy> erle-: If you dont want those, clear the browsing history and the cookies and then restart firefox and try and see if that helped
[08:33] <abdulhakeem> I have an Ubuntu server with Apache virtual hosts. If I go to my server in my web browser, it loads the first site, but I can't figure out how to browse to the second site
[08:33] <sparr> what is the name of the tool that asks you to press a few keys on your keyboard to identify the layout?
[08:34] <murthy> scott_: If it didn't ask for a password when you set the user settings in the samba dolphin property tab, then its most probably in your home directory
[08:34] <Ben_X> i installed it, and now it says Cannot find md5sums path for apparmor
[08:35] <murthy> sparr: hey you are here
[08:36] <sparr> yes?
[08:36] <erle-> <murthy> erle-: Do you need the history and cookies?
[08:36] <scott_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rQ8VxqVgtn/
[08:36] <murthy> sparr: I thought you are long asleep
[08:36] <erle-> of course, otherwise I could just delete the profile
[08:36] <erle-> its decades old literally :D
[08:37] <murthy> sparr: Dont know about the hotkey
[08:37] <sparr> nah, been debugging non-ubuntu problems, and writing a tool for extracting video game music
[08:37] <scott_> Dolphin doesn't show the changes though
[08:38] <murthy> Ben_X: how did you install debsums
[08:38] <murthy> sparr: nice
[08:39] <murthy> sparr: Could you help any of the people here?
[08:39] <scott_> Are you by chance a samba expert
[08:39] <scott_> Apparently sometime in the last six years samba went from 'just works' to noty
[08:39] <sparr> probably not :( I'm migrating away from ubuntu, with very little experience on 19.04, mostly experience with pre-2015 versions
[08:39] <murthy> scott_: use kfind to see if there is any file owned by root
[08:40] <murthy> scott_: I mean in your home folder
[08:40] <murthy> sparr: ok
[08:41] <murthy> sparr: could you delete the cookies only used by that specific website?
[08:41] <scott_> murthy: just some wine stuff that looks intentional
[08:41] <murthy> oops
[08:41] <murthy> erle-:  could you delete the cookies only used by that specific website?
[08:41] <murthy> sparr: wrong nick
[08:41] <sparr> I know :) I forgive you
[08:42] <murthy> :)
[08:42] <scott_> Well, after that change and restarting samba, now guest windows doesn't see the share at all...
[08:43] <murthy> scott_: so now your changes persist?
[08:44] <murthy> sparr: Migrating to?
[08:44] <murthy> sparr: Using Qt?
[08:45] <murthy> scott_: Now you the actual problem
[08:45] <murthy> now you know the actual problem
[08:47] <sparr> murthy: arch linux
[08:47] <murthy> sparr: ah
[08:49] <scott_> No, my changes made through a text file made the share break completely - -windows doesn't see it anymore. Dolphin continues to reflect the OLD settings even though the file is now changed
[08:49] <murthy> sparr: You created the ripper tool with Qt?
[08:49] <Ben_X> murthy: i have ubuntu 18.04
[08:49] <scott_> Is KVM the only virtualization program that uses, what was it called, the special cpu virtualization thing?
[08:49] <scott_> Or does virtualbox do it too?
[08:49] <murthy> sparr: You where asking for the tag names, for this only right?
[08:49] <scott_> Maybe another program would have a way to share files with the guest
[08:50] <murthy> scott_: Why dont you use virtualbox?
[08:51] <murthy> scott_: You can use hyperv for windows
[08:51] <murthy> I mean for windows guest
[08:52] <scott_> When I googled virtual machines the first few results I found said to use kvm not virtualbox
[08:52] <scott_> I've used virtualbox before, but I figured something changed
[08:52] <murthy> scott_: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch10.html#gimproviders
[08:52] <murthy> scott_: virtualbox is super
[08:53] <murthy> scott_: When I use kvm system sometimes hangs
[08:53] <scott_> So why does internet reccomend kvm?
[08:54] <sparr> murthy: python, no gui [yet]. and yes, that's why I was asking about tag names. For now I'm just putting the game name in the Album tag
[08:55] <murthy> scott_: for example mostly Linux doesn't need to reboot system after some change like windows, but you have to run like 5 commands to avoid reboot, So you are a noob you will find it easy to reboot than to do the complex stuff
[08:55] <murthy> likewise
[08:55] <murthy> kvm is for advanced users
[08:56] <murthy> scott_: If you have time and patience you could learn and it will be great
[08:56] <dsuch> Hello, I hope someone can point me in a direction of good keywords to look the information by :) Essentially, the scenario is that my localhost is in a VPN and I have a remote host (completely different network) that I would like to somehow join this VPN.
[08:56] <dsuch> The reason is that the remote host in an SSH bastion one for connecting to multiple external servers and one of the external servers is in the VPN. It is only my localhost that is part of the VPN because it requires some proprietary software that simply cannot be run on the remote host.
[08:56] <dsuch> My localhost is Ubuntu 14.04 and bastion host is 18.04 but I am happy to use 18.04 everywhere if there is anything in this version that would help me.
[08:56] <dsuch> Unfortunately, this VPN is completely outside my control, I can only join it from localhost, yet, I want to connect to the external servers from the bastion, that is the key thing. I wonder if anyone could suggest what kind of information to look up in the net. Thanks.
[08:56] <murthy> scott_: But If you have no time and interest to learn and you want something simple then virtualbox is your friend
[08:57] <murthy> scott_: Generally Linux community does everthing on CLI
[08:58] <murthy> scott_: But as an average user I prefer a GUI, but most of the recommendations I will get is a CLI based solution
[08:58] <murthy> ya people deserve to know that there is a cmake-gui
[09:00] <murthy> sparr: Generally they are called accredited soundtracks
[09:01] <murthy> uncredited
[09:01] <murthy> sparr: for example https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101026/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_snd
[09:01] <Ben_X> i am having a hard time locating apparmor for debsums in terminal
[09:02] <ronja_> gkfn
[09:02] <ronja_> mooooooiiii joniiiiii
[09:02] <ronja_> are u there
[09:02] <ronja_> haloo
[09:02] <murthy> sparr: "Ennio Morricone - Introduction to the Psychiatrist " that one would be missing in that list, which is uncredited
[09:02] <murthy> sparr: I generally call them BGM
[09:04] <murthy> Ben_X: I don't know why it is asking for an apparmor
[09:04] <murthy> Ben_X: are you running with sudo?
[09:05] <murthy> dsuch: hi
[09:06] <murthy> dsuch: Try after 8 hrs when People are active
[09:06] <murthy> dsuch: more advanced users will be available to help you
[09:10] <Ben_X> murthy: yeah, i tried running the command sudo and without sudo
[09:10] <Ben_X> murthy: maybe i should restart my machine? because i had to install debsums
[09:11] <murthy> Ben_X: ok try that
[09:13] <Ben_X> murthy: ok brb
[09:13] <murthy> ok
[09:13] <dsuch> Sure, thanks murthy
[09:14] <inspectorcluseau> ;;tlast
[09:15] <scott_> belatedly:
[09:16] <scott_> murthy: I get that. It's just frustrating that windows AND linux have gotten worse over the past few years
[09:16] <scott_> I haven't tried running any big games yet, but other than that linux has been mostly fine so far.
[09:17] <murthy> scott_: Gaming on linux is getting better everyday
[09:17] <Ben_X> unbelievable
[09:18] <Ben_X> still the same shit
[09:18] <murthy> Ben_X: !language
[09:19] <murthy> Ben_X: no profanity here please
[09:19] <Ben_X> sorry
[09:20] <Ben_X> murthy: sorry, just frustrated
[09:20] <murthy> Ben_X: What is the error you get when you run "debsums -s" without sudo
[09:20] <blackflow> gaming on linux is getting objectively better with a) more linux games, b) steam's Proton
[09:20] <murthy> blackflow: true
[09:21] <Ben_X> murthy: same message "Cannot find md5sums path for apparmor"
[09:21] <murthy> blackflow: I think today I saw a news regarding a new proton version
[09:25] <murthy> Ben_X: It could be a bug
[09:26] <murthy> Ben_X: But you are able to check the integrity of the installed packages with debsums, If it finds a problem it will report
[09:27] <blackflow> murthy: yes something was released the other day
[09:28] <murthy> The real change is when the game engines support Linux
[09:29] <murthy> I am off to bed now, see you all later.
[10:04] <Euph0ria> Good day all.
[10:25] <qwebirc89728> What happened to the authentication in mysql? Currently running 5.7.25 on 18.04LTS, and I'm able to write mysql, and just login without password.
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc89728: for apache issues, try also #httpd if you think its not really ubuntu related
[10:32] <qwebirc89728> Thanks
[10:45] <lavinho> good morning
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> welcome lavinho
[10:45] <lavinho> how to enable touchpad ubuntu 18.04
[10:45] <lavinho> acer es1-132
[10:46] <Diezel> Hi folks, in what log can I find issues with the gui login, basically in a loop where after entering the password I'm back at the login prompt. Non gui works fine
[11:07] <guiverc_d> Diezel, login again via terminal, and check you have some space in $HOME  (user directory), if there is unsufficent space to create necessary gui work files, the login fails & you're logged out (no error message)
[11:12] <Diezel> guiverc_d: sadly not the issue, there's about 250Gb free space
[11:14] <Diezel> I've read about the user right's issues but I don't think thats the case either
[11:15] <Diezel> What I know is it was me who f-ed it up, I installed themes last night I'm guessing I messed something there
[11:19] <dsc_> hi can I enlarge an encrypted partition (lvm2) using gparted?
[11:20] <BloqueNegro> dsc_: what did you enrypt?
[11:20] <BloqueNegro> the /dev/mapper device?
[11:20] <dsc_> BloqueNegro: full disk
[11:21] <dsc_> err
[11:21] <dsc_> Yes
[11:21] <dsc_> /dev/mapper
[11:21] <BloqueNegro> in general, i would say yes
[11:21] <dsc_> Ok ill try. I have a backup if it goes wrong.
[11:21] <BloqueNegro> do me a favor
[11:21] <BloqueNegro> test your backup before
[11:21] <BloqueNegro> :'_
[11:21] <BloqueNegro> untested backups are no backups
[11:22] <dsc_> I used clonezilla 10min ago, I'm on a new disk now
[11:22] <dsc_> hence my wish to use the unallocated space on my new (bigger) disk ;p
[11:22] <dsc_> so the backup is my old disk :P
[11:22] <BloqueNegro> :D
[11:22] <BloqueNegro> wait a sec
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> when using lvm
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> extend the lvm using lvextend
[11:23] <dsc_> :(
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> then resize the partition
[11:23] <BloqueNegro> this you can do with gparted
[11:24] <dsc_> hmmz k
[11:24] <BloqueNegro> since the logical volume is the 'physical disk' you need to extend
[11:24] <BloqueNegro> after that you can manace the partitions on top of your lv
[11:24] <BloqueNegro> eg resize partition and then resize fs
[11:24] <BloqueNegro> crypto foo should be totally unimpressed by that
[11:24] <dsc_> ya lets hope
[11:26] <Azrael_-> hi
[11:27] <Diezel> Not sure if I can call it progress, but now I only get a black screen with the mousepointer after login. Need to find logs for this
[11:31] <cuma> Hello dear users, can you help me
[11:37] <leftyfb> !ask | cuma
[11:37] <dsc_> BloqueNegro: https://i.imgur.com/HyD3r1I.png o_0
[11:38] <dsc_> /dev/mapper still 220G
[11:38] <van777> How do i change default file name pattern of Screenshot? I haven't found it!
[11:38] <dsc_> BloqueNegro: $ lvextend /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root -l+100%FREE
[11:38] <dsc_> is what I did
[11:39] <BloqueNegro> dsc_: huh
[11:39] <BloqueNegro> ohhhhh
[11:39] <dsc_> o_0
[11:40] <cuma> dılo dılo yaylalar
[11:40] <BloqueNegro> can you do an vgs and lvs?
[11:40] <BloqueNegro> and give me the output?
[11:40] <dsc_> yep sec
[11:41] <dsc_> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/zhHmMc7IB9ut4QtRoqmkCw/raw
[11:42] <BloqueNegro> root was 220G before?
[11:42] <dsc_> yep ^^
[11:43] <BloqueNegro> hmmmmm
[11:43] <BloqueNegro> can you increase it by 1G and check wether the size grows or not?
[11:43] <dsc_> As in, disk usage?
[11:43] <BloqueNegro> in lvs
[11:44] <dsc_> I'm not familiar with lvextend so sec ;p
[11:45] <BloqueNegro> and please paste the output of your lvextend
[11:45] <dsc_> BloqueNegro: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/-~qZYyUXA8HWv4Ejw3lEzQ/raw
[11:45] <BloqueNegro> well, that worked
[11:46] <BloqueNegro> can you try again with the +100%FREE one?
[11:46] <BloqueNegro> and paste the output?
[11:46] <dsc_> Well I already increased it to 470gb now, manually
[11:46] <dsc_> Sure ill try.
[11:47] <dsc_> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/~OfbyMsXQW41N7IqiO4MVw/raw
[11:47] <dsc_> nom nom
[11:47] <BloqueNegro> tasty file space :D
[11:47] <dsc_> ;')
[11:48] <dsc_> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/XWjVBe98vMN1ZoDyuK1G7Q/raw
[11:48] <dsc_> ok well looks good to me
[11:48] <dsc_> 'df -h' still shows: `/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  217G  170G   37G  83% /`
[11:48] <dsc_> (217G size)
[11:48] <BloqueNegro> yeah, bc its thin provisionied
[11:48] <dsc_> reboot?
[11:48] <BloqueNegro> nah
[11:49] <BloqueNegro> resizefs should now extend your partition
[11:49] <Cuma_> I can't listen to music, no sound.
[11:49] <BloqueNegro> however, idk if you can live-resize it while mounted
[11:49] <dsc_> we can try
[11:50] <BloqueNegro> sudo resize2fs -p /dev/mapper/yourdevice
[11:50] <Cuma_> For remote desktop connection, I can give information
[11:50] <dsc_> noice, that worked
[11:50] <dsc_> thanks!!
[11:50] <BloqueNegro> np :)
[11:51]  * BloqueNegro hugs his btrfs disk pool
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Cuma_ start here
[11:51] <Cuma_> I want to use Ubuntu. why can't I get help
[11:52] <BloqueNegro> Cuma_: we're trying to help
[11:52] <BloqueNegro> but probably nobodys online who can support you on that
[11:52] <BloqueNegro> maybe try with the steps lotuspsychje provided
[11:53] <Cuma_> I can write my ID and password for a remote desktop connection
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: we dont reccomend remote takeover from here
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: provide us details and ask a question as leftyfb adviced
[11:55] <Cuma_> I cannot write enough English to express myself correctly, and there is no Turkish language support.
[11:55] <Cuma_> like a joke
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: do you use 18.04?
[11:56] <Cuma_> I am using the latest version
[11:56] <Cuma_> 18.04 yes
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: when you launch the ? icon (manual) on your system you can get turkish help on several topics
[11:57] <Cuma_> I set up 2 days ago
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: if you installed system in turkish
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: 18.04 is not latest version, its latest LTS, are you sure you are not using 18.10?
[11:59] <Cuma_> LTS, sorry
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: can you explain whats happening to your sound exactly?
[12:00] <Cuma_> computer came in new and freedos.
[12:00] <Cuma_> fake sound
[12:00] <Cuma_> fake outlet
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C sound (from a terminal window)
[12:01] <Cuma_> I try
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Cuma_
[12:03] <Cuma_> i copied and pasted
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: you should have a pastebin link now
[12:04] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TRPJyPqZZ5/
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: you forgot: sound
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: sudo lshw -C sound
[12:05] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zPC2WKQQn/
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: ok your sound driver looks loaded, can you pastebin also: sudo lshw -C video
[12:07] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4tbVJPS2Xb/
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: also looks good..
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: do you have a sound indicator in your right upper corner?
[12:08] <Cuma_> yes
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: so wich player/website did you try to test sound?
[12:09] <Cuma_> active
[12:09] <Cuma_> I tried youtube
[12:09] <Cuma_> tried spotify
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: did you try vlc with an mp3 on your computer?
[12:10] <Cuma_> no tried
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: sudo apt install vlc
[12:11] <Cuma_> I'm trying
[12:12] <Cuma_> Is there a sample audio file in ubuntu operating system
[12:13] <Cuma_> as if I asked a silly question :)
[12:15] <BloqueNegro> Cuma_: try youtube?
[12:15] <BloqueNegro> should probably also work
[12:15] <BloqueNegro> nevermind
[12:15] <BloqueNegro> -.-
[12:17] <Cuma_> bloquenegro, sorry, it will take some time
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: download any mp3 on archive.org or anywhere
[12:19] <van777> http://irc.do.am/bell.mp3
[12:22] <Cuma_> tried again did not work
[12:23] <Cuma_> mp3 vlc
[12:23] <Cuma_> sound problem is going on
[12:32] <van777> Cuma_: in terminal : cvlc http://irc.do.am/bell.mp3
[12:32] <sl4ck> hi all. I have a job running in the background and I can bring it to foreground with "fg". How do I put it back to background and keep using the terminal or to exit the terminal?
[12:33] <EliteGod> hello. so, I have oidentd installed in my VPS. but I have a webchat application that has its own built-in identd server (optional to use; it works also with oidentd). I was wondering if it's possible to have oidentd listening in the usual 113 port and have that same webchat listening in port 1113 and both behaving properly, if I make any sense. tha
[12:33] <EliteGod> nks in advance
[12:33] <bossart> hello
[12:35] <EliteGod> sl4ck: you can probably use screen to keep an application/program running in background
[12:35] <EliteGod> so you can disconnect from the terminal and the application will be kept running
[12:35] <bossart> My Linux on the computer has a problem, sometimes the script automatically exits. does anyone know the solution?
[12:36] <EliteGod> bossart: we need more details than that. which OS, which script are you running and what it is supposed to do?
[12:38] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hQXhCpqmG9/
[12:44] <Cuma_> tırnağın varsa başını kaşı
[12:45] <van777> Cuma_: cvlc https://ia800702.us.archive.org/17/items/geometry_dash_1.9/Geometry%20Dash%20OST/BackOnTrack.mp3
[12:45] <bossart> what is?
[12:45] <Cuma_> I have opened the link, but no sound
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: did you try headphones?
[12:46] <Cuma_> I don't use speakers I'm using headphones
[12:48] <Cuma_> tried different earphones I changed the headphones' inputs
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: did you test sound on your keyboard keys?
[12:49] <Cuma_> yes i tried
[12:49] <Cuma_> if there is a simple problem I throw myself down the window :)
[12:50] <bossart> ohh, okey oke
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: pastebin vlc -vv please
[12:51] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/byrvZ5CnWd/
[12:51] <bossart> hello
[12:51] <Cuma_> VLC media player opened
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: you can close, please pastebin your whole: dmesg
[12:53] <Cuma_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mvxYy4ybfS/
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: did you take a look in bios for sound settings?
[12:58] <Cuma_> no I didn't look
[12:59] <Cuma_> I can come back after taking a look at the bios settings
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> sure
[13:00] <Cuma_> okey
[13:00] <Guest13618> Anyone there?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Guest13618
[13:06] <van777> How do i change default file name pattern of screenshots? It has spaces by default!
[13:19] <eraserpencil1> Hi! I am currently experiencing kernel panic on my system. I think it's because I might have accidentally removed all the linux headers...Is there a way i could add it back?
[13:22] <blackflow> eraserpencil1: you can reinstall them, but I'm certain that linux kernel headers are not the cause of panics. headers are only  used when building software, like DKMS
[13:27] <nine_> hi
[13:27] <eraserpencil1> blackflow: okay... the line before kernel panic is Kernel offset 0x32400000 from 0xfffffff81000000. Might that be the cause of my panic ?
[13:28] <blackflow> eraserpencil1: that line is useless per see. you need the whole dump
[13:29] <blackflow> eraserpencil1: by "dump" I mean stack trace, not the core dump per se
[13:29] <eraserpencil1> well apart from that, there is a segfault at 0 ip ..... .... .... error 14 in systemd
[13:30] <eraserpencil1> I cant seem to boot into any kernel version... be it recovery/upstart or normal..
[13:30] <eraserpencil1> any way i can help you help me do a stack trace?
[14:08] <acebrianjuan> Hi pals
[14:08] <EriC^^> hello
[14:09] <acebrianjuan> Do you guys know if puppy linux uses the same package repository as Ubuntu?
[14:11] <Cuma_> as if the state problem
[14:11] <acebrianjuan> I have an aged netbook pc and I'd like to install some lightweigt distro that is Ubuntu-like
[14:11] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: it doesn't. it's an entirely different distribution, no connection at all.
[14:12] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: ok, thank you
[14:12] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: how old is the device in question?
[14:12] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: 6-7 years old
[14:12] <ryuo> ok... not the oldest. RAM?
[14:12] <ryuo> with any luck it's capable of 64 bit.
[14:13] <ryuo> i was thinking it might be one of the atoms from 10 years ago that could only do 32 bit.
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:19] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: The model is an ASUS Eee PC 1015PN and yes, it's an atom
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | acebrianjuan
[14:21] <acebrianjuan> lotuspsychje: thanks I'll check them out
[14:21] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: is it at 2G? i'd suggest maxing it if it isn't.
[14:21] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: that can be done quite cheaply.
[14:22] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: it'll make your usage experience much smoother.
[14:23] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: i'd say get a 64 bit flavor. it seems your atom supports it.
[14:24] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: running `free -h` thells me the device has 985M of total Mem
[14:24] <acebrianjuan> *tells
[14:25] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: ok... so it's 1G.
[14:25] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: it can take up to 2G.
[14:25] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: i'd suggest expanding to 2G, but it's up to you. i just know a lot of distributions these days are more RAM intensive.
[14:25] <ryuo> i've had machines get by with 2G still.
[14:25] <ryuo> on beefier ones
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> Cuma_: did you find anything in bios?
[14:26] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: ok, can you help me finding which memory units would work in this device?
[14:26] <acebrianjuan> to expand it to 2G
[14:26] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/ASUS/eee-pc-1015pn
[14:27] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: that's one option. it shouldn't cost more than $10-15 if you know what to buy.
[14:27] <ryuo> 2G isn't a lot by today's standards.
[14:28] <ryuo> seems to be a simple replacement.
[14:28] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDTkzl_mjE
[14:28] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: thank you! so it's a DDR3L type
[14:29] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: evidently.
[14:29] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: that type of RAM can be gotten on ebay somewhat cheaply second hand.
[14:30] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: the video is great. So there's only one memory slot
[14:30] <ryuo> yes.
[14:30] <ryuo> the max is 2G, so not surprising.
[14:30] <acebrianjuan> ok
[14:31] <ryuo> seems you can also disassemble it to upgrade internal storage, but i wouldn't recommend it without good cause... these netbooks are a pain to disassemble safely.
[14:31] <ryuo> i've ruined them before because of their small size.
[14:33] <ryuo> acebrianjuan: seems this video might tell you how though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWuadetB24k
[14:33] <ryuo> but i'd advise staying with what you got if it's still working.
[14:36] <acebrianjuan> ryuo: yeah looks easy in the video :P
[14:46] <van777> I've got "eeepc 701" running debian server 3 years already
[14:47] <van777> Ubuntu server didn't fit into it's 4GB storage
[14:53] <Deihmos> Ubuntu server takes a lot of gigs in comparison
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> talk about in #ubuntu-discuss guys
[15:02] <blb4393> samba package has no own bug reporting on the launchpad, they simply redirect to the upstream bugzilla there. The problem I want to report has nothing to do with the package itself but how it is packaged. Packaging is done by ubuntu. So where do I report the bug?
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> blb4393: can you explain what happens to the channel, so volunteers can try to think along with you?
[15:05] <tarzeau> blb4393: does the bug also exist on debian samba package? then use bugs.debian.org
[15:32] <acebrianjuan> what's the command similar to `ls` that shows the creation date and permissions of the files?
[15:35] <acebrianjuan> found it `ls -l`
[15:35] <acgissues> acebrianjuan: `ls -l`?
[15:35] <acebrianjuan> acgissues: haha yes!
[15:36] <acgissues> acebrianjuan: i mean, you could also use `stat` for individual files. I just wasn't sure if you meant if there was an `ls` option or a different command
[15:39] <[n0mad]> i think i was trying to figure out if there was a key shortcut for something and i changed something. when i open a new application, its window no longer opens on top. i just get the notification telling me it's ready and i then have to click on the taskbar to get it to come into focus. any ideas?
[15:43] <[n0mad]> well, never mind. now it won't even do it again after doing it all last night and even right before my post
[15:53] <[n0mad]> what the hell now it did it again. this is so annoying
[15:59] <sazawal> Hello all. I have installed Lubuntu 18.10 in my new laptop, but I cannot connect to the DSL connection. I copied the settings from the nm-conection-editor of Ubuntu 16.04, where it works perfect. In Lubuntu 18.10, there are new options of "Parent Interface" and "PPP Interface" though.
[16:04] <cuma> my audio problem continues
[16:07] <cuma> I installed Ubuntu and no sound
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> cuma: please also mention all the step we tryed, so volunteers can pickup from there
[16:10] <cuma> I will not use this distribution. Crypto, we can't figure it out.
[16:11] <cuma> playing a sound should not be so much a problem
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> cuma: the users choice, but if sound doesnt work by default on ubuntu you might encounter the same on other Os aswell
[16:36] <degva> Hi all, is there a way to connect to a FTP server from nautilus without TLS? Meaning, plain FTP. The thing is that I cannot connect to the server through nautilus, but I can through the command line as plain FTP. I have tested this in filezilla too.
[16:42] <mohnish> Why are the system requirements for ubuntu are increasing as a new version comes out?
[16:43] <mohnish> Does that mean that I wouldn't be able to use ubuntu on a really crappy (64bit) computer?
[16:43] <mohnish> Even if I remove gnome, and use only command line?
[16:44] <jeansamon> socorro
[16:44] <jeansamon> por favor alguien me ayuda
[16:45] <jeansamon> help
[16:46] <jeansamon> socorro help
[16:46] <vfw> We are using deja-dup and the latest version does not seem to show a progress bar, so we are trying to find a work-around.  Is there a way to see what command deja-dup uses to call up duplicity?
[16:48] <Guillesahu07> help me socorro
[16:49] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello, I am planning to get a custom build desktop with the following motherboard https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/TUF-Z390-PRO-GAMING/ and planning to run Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[16:50] <Guillesahu07> Help me
[16:50] <Mr_Cyclops> but I have some questions, whether Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS will support all hardware? like USB 3.1 and Realtec Autio "Realtek® ALC S1200A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC "
[16:52] <Guillesahu07> is there anyone
[16:54] <andy1234> Test
[16:57] <acgissues> andy1234: not working
[16:57] <andy1234> Lol
[16:57] <andy1234> i could see it was working need not need someone to confirm it
[17:04] <ryuo> Mr_Cyclops: should work... it's usually laptop hardware that has issues.
[17:09] <sazawal> The DSL connection on my newly installed Lubuntu 18.10 is not working. I have copied the settings from nm-connection-editor from my Ubuntu 16.04, where it works perfect. The new nm-connection-editor has extra "Parent Interface" and "PPP Interface" options. Please help!
[17:15] <_K_G_> 333
[17:27] <BluesKaj> sazawal,  edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and set, [ifupdown] managed, from false to true
[17:29] <BluesKaj> sazawal, then, sudo service network-manager restart
[17:30] <sazawal> BluesKaj: thanks , i will try and will get back to you
[17:32] <BluesKaj> sazawal, not real sure, but it's worth a try
[18:19] <andrew> t
[18:26] <BillyCole> Posted this yesterday too, but I'm having a bit of hard time understanding whats going on with some multithreaded code I've written: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2018&gist=3a37115737183b59e28fdb2e7f3df9b4
[18:26] <BillyCole> It never completes.  My guess is that some of the thread tasks fail, but I don't see anything in the logs indicating that, and I was assuming that failures would cause the whole app to panic
[18:26] <BillyCole> Ah wrong channel again, sorry.
[18:39] <salamander> Guten Morgen
[18:39] <eSoul> More of an opinion than support, but would one recommend 18.04 or 18.10 for a server
[18:39] <eSoul> Just internal network, would be used for Plex. nothing mission critical\
[18:41] <mnathani> how do I add a secondary adapter / ip address using netplan?
[18:42] <hggdh> eSoul: 18.04. It is long term support, while 18.10 is supported for 9 months
[18:42] <eSoul> hggdh: Indeed.  I am not opposed to doing multipl do-release-upgrades to push that version out further
[18:43] <salamander> Hi Guys
[18:43] <salamander> I have a first time with Linux and im scared :D
[18:47] <Hootch> salamander: first time first love ...
[18:50] <eSoul> Not too much about Linux to be scared of
[18:52] <salamander> my Internet is slower i think. Wifi drivers update? or is it price for better OS :D
[18:53] <Hootch> salamander: what?
[18:54] <salamander> my internet is working slowly on Ubuntu than on Windows i think. or am i just psychotic?
[18:56] <Hootch> use a speedtest like speedtest.net
[19:12] <murthy> Hootch: hi
[19:13] <murthy> I am sorry wrong nick
[19:13] <murthy> salamander: hi
[19:22] <maxzor> Hello why is eclipse package that old? :<
[19:27] <raparkhurst> greetings
[19:32] <FreeBDSM> whenever I do `fdisk -l` one of the devices lists it's partitions as /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 and there goes a red text afterwards: "Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary." What does it mean? should I do anything about it?
[19:33] <fourierSeries> hi
[19:34] <FreeBDSM> is this happening becasue of 'Advanced Format 4096-byte' (aka `Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes`)?
[19:35] <Hootch> https://askubuntu.com/questions/156994/partition-does-not-start-on-physical-sector-boundary
[19:35] <FreeBDSM> that was googled before
[19:35] <FreeBDSM> that is not really explaining whether it's bad or not
[19:36] <FreeBDSM> I have another disk with `Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes` and it has no such a red text note
[19:36] <FreeBDSM> but disklabel type on it is gpt, unlike dos for the one with the red text
[19:38] <xerf> hi
[19:40] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: you will get a risk with performance read/write >> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/fdisk-partition-2-does-not-start-on-physical-sector-boundary-4175442802/
[19:40] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: a good way - make a backup and reformat the partition
[19:45] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: The main problem should be size definition of your partition. The size should mostly a multiple of 8 (8,16,32,64 ...)
[19:46] <FreeBDSM>  Hootch: where exactly to look for that?  https://paste.ee/p/gn8GQ
[19:48] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: https://www.miniwebtool.com/modulo-calculator/?number1=1024&number2=8 the result should be 0
[19:49] <FreeBDSM> I know how to division by 8 works :/
[19:49] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: your modulo was 6 https://www.miniwebtool.com/modulo-calculator/?number1=960096254&number2=8
[19:49] <Hootch> delete the part and define the right size
[19:50] <FreeBDSM> so, /dev/sda2 starts at 960096254 which is wrong, right?
[19:50] <Hootch> yes
[19:51] <FreeBDSM> weird
[19:51] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: or ignore it .. the system runs also
[19:51] <FreeBDSM> /dev/sda1 ends at 960094207
[19:51] <FreeBDSM> Hootch: I will ignore it, as I suck at operating on the disk/partition level and properly backing up stuff
[19:52] <FreeBDSM> I'd end up with a screwed system :(
[19:53] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: desktop system?
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> how come /dev/sda1's end != /dev/sda2's start?
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> Hootch: no, my home server
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> I've connected multiple hdds to it now
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> and I need to format stuff
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> backup stuff
[19:53] <FreeBDSM> and partition stuff
[19:54] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: you should rethink your partition table design
[19:54] <Hootch> FreeBDSM: search for server partitions and handling
[19:55] <FreeBDSM> I also need raid, afaiu I have hardware for raid, but I heard that it is better and more reliable to use software raids
[19:56] <FreeBDSM> I have a 3TB disk, which is big enough to back up all the other disks
[19:57] <Hootch> a raid with one harddrive?
[19:58] <FreeBDSM> no, I have multiple hard drives, they have different sizes
[19:58] <Hootch> hm .. you have something to rethink, dude :)
[19:58] <FreeBDSM> I'd like some raid cool enough to tell me once things go south 'hey, you need to replace disk X' and I'd just detach it and re-attach a new one instead
[19:59] <Hootch> For your homeplace as backup system?
[20:00] <FreeBDSM> well, I have a nextcloud server running there and would like to run more stuff
[20:03] <FreeBDSM> damn, why's everything so confusing, I can't even figure out a way to list total space on disks. `parted -ls` first lists (physical?) disks as 500GB + 2000GB + 3000GB + 300GB + 320GB, then goes listing 'Linux device-mappers' that go like 345GB + 1611GB + 2991GB + 8.27GB, wtf
[20:03] <FreeBDSM> oh, and one of the disks is listed as Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
[20:03] <FreeBDSM> Partition Table: unknown
[20:04] <FreeBDSM> oh, right, that's the DAS-RAID module
[20:04] <FreeBDSM> that supports hot-swapping
[20:47] <vimar> Hi
[20:47] <itsme> bhaag saale
[20:52] <wr> remote desktop with multiple users? what can be used?
[20:56] <murthy> wr: hi
[20:56] <wr> murthy, hi, to remote desktop with multiple users? what can be used? cross-platform? on a linux system...
[20:57] <murthy> wr: Are you talking about the backend or the front end?
[20:57] <murthy> wr: For protocol you can use rdp or vnc
[20:57] <wr> murthy, rdo does it on linux?
[20:57] <murthy> wr: for front end krdc
[20:57] <wr> *rdp
[20:58] <murthy> wr: Your mean rdp server?
[20:58] <wr> murthy, anything that works
[20:59] <murthy> wr: there is one xrdp, but I haven't used it
[20:59] <murthy> wait
[21:00] <wr> murthy, what wanna do is like you remote to a place then your abre to share screen/inputs with users, just like a teamviewer does it
[21:00] <wr> *able
[21:00] <murthy> why not use vnc?
[21:08] <anakonda> Hello everybody
[21:34] <plutes> how can i change my symlink back to green, its been changed to red and i can not access the data the inode is pointing to?
[21:41] <tomreyn> plutes: if a symbolic link is shown in red color it usually indicates the target no longer exists. you can then either take measures to put the target back in place or delete (and optionally recreate, pointing to a different target) the symbolic link.
[21:46] <plutes> tomreyn, thanks mate, just 2 secs found out from youtube.
[21:54] <fleabeard> hello friends, I'm curious if when I uninstall a package with sudo apt remove 'package name', does it remove the packages configs/local data (and possibly any dependencies it needed during install)? Or nah?
[21:56] <bprompt> fleabeard:   nope, only the package itself, no configs, I think "apt-get purge" will do configs, at least on paper, and to remove any installed dependencies, you'd need to do afterwards "apt-get autoremove"
[21:57] <fleabeard> bprompt, thanks, would I need to specify the package name when removing the configs / dependicies with those commands? Such as 'apt-get purge tilde" or can these be done after I've removed the package?
[21:59] <bprompt> fleabeard:    you'd do the "purge" instead of the "remove", and that's "apt-get purge tilde",  and then issue "apt-get autoremove" to toss any dependencies no longer needed
[21:59] <fleabeard> bprompt, sweet, thank you!
[21:59] <bprompt> yw
[22:02] <cuma> I cannot hear any sounds on the computer, "dummy output" it seems. Is this normal?
[22:05] <guiverc> cuma, nope (nor normal).  You could try `sudo lshw -C sound` to list-hardware class=sound to get info on what (if any) sound devices are recognized, what driver= is being used etc.. it may provide clues as to issue(s)
[22:09] <user_> paswerd
[22:10] <cuma> `sudo lshw -C sound` when I type in the terminal, USB writes
[23:04] <scott_> So does anyone have experience with getting samba to work in Ubuntu?
[23:05] <kindofcool> sup guys
[23:06] <coolster2> this is a test of my irc client
[23:06] <kindofcool> Cool
[23:07] <kindofcool> /join #news
[23:07] <jeremy31> scott_: Have you done an internet search?  I think a conf file needs to be changed for samba in newer Ubuntu versions for most users
[23:10] <scott_> Yeah I've searched all over google and gotten ancient stuff about connecting windows 2000 to SMB1, nothing for troubleshooting modern samba
[23:10] <scott_> I mean, samba worked just fine 6 years ago when I last used it
[23:11] <scott_> So... wait. You're saying there's a known issue where Ubuntu ships with a broken .conf file, and they didn't just... fix it and reissue the ISO?
[23:12] <scott_> Anyway do you have a link? What i DID find on modern samba just described how it's SUPPOSED to work, not how to ACTUALLY make it work.
[23:47] <jsharper> hello. can someone give me a sanity check plz.  i'm trying out ubuntu (18.04) as a workstation. embracing the snap thing.  but i must not be understanding something with filesystem access. first i installed vlc player, but it can't open my media.  then i tried gitkraken, but it can't access my git directory.  it seems that they can only access local things in my homedir, and anything else eg. symlinks into nfs mounts is disallowed?


[01:05] <wrst> vychune: the bot is on hold :)
[01:07] <cyberanger> we ran out of WD-40
[01:08] <cyberanger> so unless you want the bot to rust ;-)
[05:07] <Svpernova09> Anyone familiar with LVM?
[05:30] <orias> 0.0
[05:31] <orias> :D
[05:32] <orias> feeling the caffine?
[05:35] <Svpernova09> doing scary shit :_X
[05:35] <Svpernova09> proxmox:~# lvscan ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/swap' [4.00 GB] inherit ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/root' [96.00 GB] inherit ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/data' [930.00 GB] inherit
[05:36] <Svpernova09> The file copy finished, so I wiped your drive
[05:36] <Svpernova09> added it to LVM, extend the logical drive
[05:36] <Svpernova09> extended proxmox:~# lvscan ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/swap' [4.00 GB] inherit ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/root' [96.00 GB] inherit ACTIVE            '/dev/pve/data' [930.00 GB] inherit
[05:36] <Svpernova09> errr
[05:36] <Svpernova09> I extended /dev/mapper/pve-data to 930gigs
[05:36] <Svpernova09> now I'm extending the actual fs
[05:36] <orias> and the other 500?
[05:36] <orias> ahh
[05:37] <Svpernova09> So this should make /var/lib/vz (where the VMs get stored) 930 gigs
[05:37] <orias> nice
[05:37] <Svpernova09> You're gonna have to recreate your VM :-/
[05:37] <orias> 0.0
[05:37] <Svpernova09> I don't think it's going to be able to be recoverd cause it's missing your home folder now
[05:37] <orias> *awkward silence*
[05:38] <orias> heh
[05:38] <Svpernova09> idk
[05:38] <Svpernova09> I may be able to do some magic
[05:38] <orias> jk
[05:38] <orias> its all good
[05:38] <orias> i bet I can have it back to where it was in under 4 hours
[05:38] <orias> from here arer the keys to wanna have a listen?
[05:39] <orias> can you do a debian vm for me?
[05:39] <orias> since you're going to recreate it anyways?
[05:39] <Svpernova09> yeah if thats what you want I can do that
[05:39] <orias> if nothing else, we can make a symlink from the backed upu data
[05:40] <Svpernova09> I'm going to create you a new VM, and copy your data back to it.
[05:40] <orias> to the new ~ mount
[05:40] <orias> thats fine
[05:40] <orias> root should be within / in the vm
[05:40] <Svpernova09> This whole thing was really easy
[05:40] <orias> and i can just remount and re symlink ~
[05:40] <orias> thats the way it should be
[05:40] <Svpernova09> you won't have to symlink or mount anything
[05:40] <Svpernova09> it'll just be there..
[05:41] <Svpernova09> before we had to link and moutn that way since it was a seperate drive
[05:41] <Svpernova09> now it's just 1 drive
[05:41] <Svpernova09> So the system sees a 1.3tb drive now
[05:41] <Svpernova09> instead of a 500/1000
[05:43] <Svpernova09> woot
[05:43] <Svpernova09> check this out
[05:43] <Svpernova09> http://pastebin.com/jWZiBRmC
[05:44] <orias> BAD ASS!
[05:45] <Svpernova09> I'm gonna boot your VM, and see if I can get into it
[05:45] <Svpernova09> If I can create you a clean user, you can get in and snag your system conf stuff
[05:45] <Svpernova09> that'll save you some time yea?
[05:45] <Svpernova09> awww
[05:46] <Svpernova09> it won't even boot :(
[05:46] <orias> heh
[05:46] <orias> give it time
[05:46] <orias> she's been through a lot!
[05:46] <Svpernova09> oh may have it
[05:46] <orias> coolness
[05:47] <orias> if nothing else, I have everything in ~ backed up, and i grabbed the 2 conf's i needed
[05:47] <orias> everything else is just a LAMP away
[06:29] <orangeninja> hey anyone up?
[06:39] <chris4585> si
[06:41] <orangeninja> hey chris
[06:43] <chris4585> whats up?
[06:44] <orangeninja> nothing much just hanging out.
[06:44] <orangeninja> do you use beeps in irssi?
[06:45] <chris4585> I don't really use irssi much, but no
[06:45] <orangeninja> what do you use? xchat?
[06:45] <chris4585> yeah
[06:46] <orangeninja> been trying to find how to set up irssi to beep whe someone types orangeninja ....lol'
[06:46] <orangeninja> Hell I don't know if it is even possible
[06:47] <chris4585> you would think it is
[06:47] <chris4585> cyberanger, would know
[06:47] <orangeninja> yeah, I'll ask him next time he is around
[06:47] <orangeninja> where are you at chris4585
[06:48] <orangeninja> ?
[06:48] <chris4585> Florida
[06:48] <chris4585> lol
[06:48] <chris4585> I used to live in Kingston
[06:48] <orangeninja> where are you at chris4585 that's right i remeber talking to you about that before
[06:49] <chris4585> I'm kind of the odd ball I guess, I can't really contribute living in FL but I love this channel
[06:50] <orangeninja> well, i don't see why you can't stay....lol. guess you came here long before you moved
[06:51] <chris4585> yeah I came in when it was dead in here about 3 years ago
[06:52] <orangeninja> yeah, I figured that.
[06:52] <orangeninja> do you go to FL room any?
[06:53] <chris4585> I tried once but its just not the same
[06:53] <orangeninja> lol, is it real busy?
[06:53] <chris4585> actually it was probably about the same as this channel
[06:53] <chris4585> its been a while
[06:54] <orangeninja> why did you go to florida? work?
[06:56] <chris4585> I had to go where my parents go lol
[06:58] <orangeninja> lol, ahhhh well that is a good reason.
[13:38] <vychune> gooood moooorning
[15:29] <cyberanger> chris4585: it can be done
[15:31] <cyberanger> setting beeps for irssi can be done
[17:26] <vychune> o/
[18:12] <vychune> cyberanger
[18:12] <vychune> you home
[19:53] <wrst> hello everyon
[19:53] <wrst> hello everyone
[19:59] <chris4585>  hey wrst
[21:09] <cyberanger> orangeninja: irssi beep is doable
[21:09] <cyberanger> wrst:
[21:09] <cyberanger> electricus:
[21:10] <cyberanger> and anyone else I metioned the squid issue to, I found part of the issue is their servers are not set for the correct time
[21:10] <cyberanger> and set with no-cache
[21:11] <cyberanger> so the storeurl rules are screwed on that, since the clock flucuates a great deal
[21:12] <cyberanger> vychune didn't really stay long enough for an answer, shame
[21:12] <cyberanger> orangeninja: what is your terminal?
[21:21] <cyberanger> vychune: I'm not home, I'm here ;-)
[21:33] <orangeninja> cyberanger: sorry I missed that I am on irssi gnome terminal 2.30.2
[21:59] <cyberanger> orangeninja: no beep?
[21:59] <cyberanger> vychune_: I'm not home, I'm here ;-)
[21:59] <vychune_> lol
[22:00] <orangeninja> nope, not yet
[22:00] <vychune_> whats going on guys?
[22:00] <cyberanger> orangeninja: run 'echo -e "\007"'
[22:00] <orangeninja> nothiong much vychune_
[22:01] <cyberanger> and let me know if it flashes, beeps or anything
[22:01] <orangeninja> in irssi or terminal/
[22:01] <orangeninja> ?
[22:01] <cyberanger> terminal
[22:02] <cyberanger> we wanna see what the terminal does, since it's the same sort of signal irssi will send the underlying terminal
[22:02] <cyberanger> (most of the howtos don't metion this bit, but I find it saves some debugging)
[22:02] <orangeninja> didn't seem to do anything.
[22:15] <cyberanger> orangeninja: at all?
[22:17] <orangeninja> nope
[22:18] <orangeninja> in case I did it wrong I did both ways...
[22:18] <orangeninja> orangeninja@orange-crush:~$ echo -e "\007"
[22:18] <orangeninja> orangeninja@orange-crush:~$ 'echo -e "\007"'
[22:19] <cyberanger> yeah, first time (used single quotes to signify it as code to run, since double quotes were in the code)
[22:21] <cyberanger> orangeninja: I can see that being a few things
[22:21] <cyberanger> try loading the kernel module 'pcspkr' which is the beep speaker
[22:21] <cyberanger> sudo modprobe pcspkr
[22:22] <orangeninja> ok
[22:23] <orangeninja> sudo: modprob: command not found
[22:23] <orangeninja> apt-get modprob?.....lol
[22:24] <cyberanger> modprobe
[22:24] <cyberanger> e
[22:24] <cyberanger> you left out a letter
[22:24] <cyberanger> :-)
[22:26] <orangeninja> ok I fixed it. still nothing...
[22:26] <cyberanger> by 'still nothing' I take it you re-ran the echo command above?
[22:27] <orangeninja> yes
[22:30] <cyberanger> xset b 100
[22:31] <cyberanger> (sorry, gotta go down the list, they tried very hard to DISABLE this in karmic, that's why I'm trying to get this first, then irssi after)
[22:31] <orangeninja> ok i ran that
[22:32] <cyberanger> and any sucess?
[22:33] <orangeninja> nothing happened again.....sorry
[22:34] <vychune> http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/97885
[22:40] <cyberanger> orangeninja: perhaps I forgot (or presumed it was implied) to metion that you need to also set the terminal beep in the gnome-terminal profile
[22:40] <cyberanger> and that still might not be enough
[22:40] <cyberanger> people have joked about this being an 8 mile process (my version isn't stock ubuntu, part of why it's not that bad)
[22:41] <orangeninja> how do you do that?
[22:45] <cyberanger> right click on the terminal, and in the menu, look for profile
[22:45] <cyberanger> it'll open a new dialog box, with a bunch of properties
[22:46] <cyberanger> and one of them will be a checkbox with terminal bell
[22:47] <orangeninja> yep terminal bell checked
[22:48] <cyberanger> ugh
[22:49] <orangeninja> i know....
[22:49] <cyberanger> orangeninja: sorry here, I'm on a timecrunch, that's what's really irratiting
[22:50] <orangeninja> that's ok, buddy. I appreciate you trying
[22:50] <cyberanger> is I can see this point it's gonna be shooting down the 8 mile long road
[22:50] <cyberanger> orangeninja: when are you on, I don't mind another time, just sorta deadlined
[22:50] <orangeninja> I have to go into work until 0230 anyway. So maybe I can get back on this tomorrow or something..
[22:51] <orangeninja> no worries I appreciate it cyberanger
[22:51] <cyberanger> primary focus must be meeting that deadline, I'm still chatting on IRC, just gotta think on one task
[22:51] <cyberanger> orangeninja: 24-26 hours from now?
[22:51] <orangeninja> yea, prob at least
[22:53] <cyberanger> if we can do it sooner, swell, just figure that's my soonest within your routine (at least what I can tell by when your on)
[22:54] <orangeninja> yeah, i might get on earlier tomorrow, but I got a couple of family tings to take care of first. why I usually am not on until later when son and wife go to bed.