[00:00] <ZykoticK9> pepper_haze, 2010 10th month - you answered your own question... ;)
[00:00] <djstephen> does ubuntu still provide stickers free of charge
[00:00] <tsziklay> sparrW: I see, and to find the java files I would do something like "which java" correct?
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> ZykoticK9: damn you beat me, officer obvious :)
[00:00] <pepper_haze> Oh cool ZykoticK9 all 10s
[00:00] <Oer> ZykoticK9, the first time i mounted my dvd-rw, it took 1 minute to show the empty dvd-rw on desktop.
[00:00] <sparrW> tsziklay: possibly. 'which java' will probably lead you to a symlink to a symlink to a symlink to a binary somewhere under where JAVA_HOME should point :)
[00:00] <Pirat_Michi> hi, (wie) ist es möglich der Crontab zu sagen sie solle etwas jeden zweiten Sonntag ausführen?
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, see Oer's comment above
[00:01] <pepper_haze> !de | Pirat_Michi
[00:01] <djstephen> so i take it they dont
[00:01] <tsziklay> sheesh, this seems way too complicated for something as simple as typing "grails dev run-app" into a terminal window...
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> djstephen, i've never heard of free stickers before - there MAY still be free CDs with shipit, but that's being phased out... :(
[00:03] <polter> you used to get stickers with the cd's
[00:03] <djstephen> i got my free cd today the last one i got last year came with free stickers
[00:03] <SH-Chris> RedLance_: Does teh alternate installer include a partitioner as well?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> polter, djstephen i never got sticks with my 9.10 or 10.04 :(
[00:03] <RedLance_> SH-Chris: Yes, it does.
[00:03] <Pirat_Michi> @ pepper_haze sry, didn't mentioned speaking german. ;)
[00:03] <deanimean> system76 provides stickers, but they are the old style
[00:03] <deanimean> ubuntu sells newer ones
[00:03] <polter> ZykoticK9, I haven't used shipit cd's since 7.04 I think
[00:03] <djstephen> i wanted to get a powered by ubuntu sticker
[00:03] <Ramzes> Zykotick9:  thanks for the tip. Well this is weird. Cause I can play audio
[00:04] <Ramzes> CD via bankshee but cannot access via nautilus
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, try putting a data CD in the drive - see if it automounts, if not try manually mounting it from CLI and see any errors
[00:05] <Ramza> ZykoticK9: Please hit tab one more time each time.
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, sorry!
[00:05] <Ramza> np
[00:09] <Sia-> Hi, why FF doesnøt take spellchecker from aspel-* like pidgin and xchat, because FF in debian does and no need to install dictionary  from mozilla.org
[00:10] <StealFalcon> hi
[00:10] <soreau> Sia-: Ubuntu doesn't make firefox, mozilla does.
[00:10] <StealFalcon> i need help bad
[00:10] <StealFalcon> hello
[00:10] <soreau> ! ask | StealFalcon
[00:10] <Sia-> soreau, JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I TALKING ABOUT
[00:10] <Ramzes> Zykotick9: Thanks for the help. I experimented with audio CDs before. when I used a data CD it automounted. I wonder why it does not with audio CDs? You saved me a lot of frustration
[00:11] <StealFalcon> i downloaded a song from frostwire and both my built in players have probs opening the
[00:11] <soreau> ! caps | Sia-
[00:11] <StealFalcon> them
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> Ramza, i don't think nautilus/ubuntu does audio cds by default... not sure.
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: audio cds dont need to be mounted
[00:11] <Sia-> soreau, please dont write me something
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: only data cds
[00:11] <maco> Ramzes: audio cds just plain play when you open a music player
[00:12] <StealFalcon> hello?
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Jello!
[00:12] <yawar> StealFalcon: what's the song's file format and what built-in players do you have?
[00:12] <soreau> StealFalcon: Are you sure the file you downloaded is a valid audio file?
[00:13] <StealFalcon> mp3 only the default ubuntu 9,10 players
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> Sia-, i did a "quick" search on launchpad for a firefox/aspell bug(s) but I couldn't find anything.  Good luck.
[00:13] <StealFalcon> 9.10
[00:13] <soreau> StealFalcon: Which format is the song in and which player are you trying to use?
[00:13] <Sia-> ZykoticK9, i found this too, if is bugy then ok thnx alot
[00:13] <Ramzes> maco: Thanks for the info. Btw any idea how to rip audio music out from a cd to a hd?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> Ramzes:  dozens of tools to do that.
[00:14] <maco> Ramzes: rhythmbox (the default music player) can do that
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> most of the media players have the feature
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, have you installed "ubuntu-restriected-extras"
[00:14] <marija> the documentation is outdated for installing fglrx on 10.04. its 9.10 as latest version mentioned ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ). are fglrx drivers still in the repos?
[00:14] <maco> marija: yes
[00:14] <StealFalcon> i dont think so y?
[00:14] <yawar> StealFalcon: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing Restricted Formats
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> marija:  yes they are.. but what cards are supported by the drivers - changes
[00:15] <ZykoticK9> marija, use System / Admin / Hardware Drivers (if you can, not sure about ATI stuff though)
[00:15] <StealFalcon> so whats with it
[00:15] <yawar> StealFalcon: sorry, make that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing%20Restricted%20Formats
[00:15] <anml> currently I have the "error: no such device" issue, and am loaded into ubuntu on a live CD. now what do I do D:
[00:15] <cousteau`live> why does Empathy not support IRC by default?
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, BUG - you need to add another type of account PRIOR to trying to setup IRC!
[00:16] <cousteau`live> but support Facebook Chat?
[00:16] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: ok, let me try
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, BUT - Empathy is terrible for IRC, i strongly recommend a real client
[00:16] <StealFalcon> basicly installing pay only formats right?
[00:16] <StealFalcon> pigen
[00:16] <StealFalcon> pidgin
[00:17] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, it's not "pay" - non-free as in freedom, not beer ;)
[00:17] <mistergibson> Please Help.  I have an ATI X1650 XT - need a yes-this-will-work how to guide on getting glx running on it.  fglrx refuses to modprobe
[00:17] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: if empathy is similar to pidgin, it will be terrible to any chat protocol
[00:17] <StealFalcon> ok im lost so the codects are closed source?
[00:17] <pepper_haze> did they ever update the ubuntu music store?
[00:18] <yawar> StealFalcon: once you install the package mentioned, you'll be able to play MP3
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i've never tried using IRC in either of them.  i use them for IM only.
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  restart the players after installing the packages.
[00:18] <StealFalcon> so its just the codects?
[00:18] <cousteau`live> argh, I can't create an MSN account without telling my computer to store the password on the keyring
[00:18] <anml> anyone? D:
[00:18] <StealFalcon> they arent open source
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  codecs can have 'legal' limitations.
[00:18] <StealFalcon> as in?
[00:19] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: isn't IRC a type of instant messaging?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> StealFalcon:  as in what? as in theres legal restrictions on them...
[00:19] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, if you want to use msn messenger with linux, don't use empanthy, aMSN is alot better
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, not in my opinion - 2 different things
[00:19] <StealFalcon> yes
[00:19] <incar> im drivig
[00:19] <imanc> incar - stop using computer and drive god damn you
[00:20] <StealFalcon> what are the legal implemetations?
[00:20] <yawar> StealFalcon: basically the implementations of the codecs are open source, but the codecs themselves are patented--so legally you shouldn't use the implementations in countries where the patents are enforced
[00:20] <ZykoticK9> !ot | StealFalcon
[00:20] <incar>  hah pretty goo
[00:20] <incar> good
[00:20] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: agree, but I'm on a LiveCD and I want to reserve my RAM for other purposes
[00:20] <StealFalcon> ty
[00:20] <ZykoticK9> StealFalcon, i sent that cause this isn't the channel to "discuss" things - it's support only, or is suppose to be.
[00:20] <cousteau`live> *although I wasn't thinking of connecting to MSN, just creating the acount(
[00:21] <anml> I am receiving the "error: no such device" message when I try to boot into Win/Ubuntu.
[00:21] <diana_> ?
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> anml, likely a grub error?  are you using grub1 or grub2 (if you're not sure tell what version of ubuntu you are using, AND if it was upgraded or not)
[00:22]  * cousteau`live dislikes gaim, pidgin and empathy and would like to have a good multi-protocol client
[00:22] <anml> latest ubuntu, grub2 I assume
[00:22] <mikubuntu> guys, i'm at a friends trying to install 10.04, and it failed on the first partitioning step (says it failed to partition the ext4 file) what could be the problem, it will not go forward from here.  this is a usb stick i'm using, but i do have an alt install in the car.
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | anml
[00:22] <cousteau`live> next fresh install will be from the minimal cd
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> anml, do the change root stuff from CD and let GRUB2 try to automatically resetup
[00:23] <anml> how D:
[00:23] <yawar> cousteau`live: kopete?
[00:23] <RedLance_> Where is my kernel image located?  Or, can I get a directory listing from the boot: prompt?
[00:23] <cousteau`live> yawar: gnome
[00:23] <anml> haven't used linux in a few years, I don't remember anything :P
[00:23] <cousteau`live> well, will give kopete a try
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> RedLance_:  grub2 has some command line options - yes.. check the grub2 docs .  i cant recall how to get a directory listing.
[00:24] <LUCHO2385> HELLO!!!!
[00:24] <RedLance_> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[00:24] <cousteau`live> if kopete is good, I'll suggest to make a clone of it for gnome
[00:24] <deanimean> go pete?
[00:24] <kermit> 10.4, chromium and java apps, how?
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> anml, you need to read the link ubottu gave you.  best of luck man, ask if you have any questions after reading it.
[00:24] <LUCHO2385> KOPETE IS NOT BETTER THAN PIDGIN
[00:24] <latit> uh oh
[00:24] <jpds> !caps > LUCHO2385
[00:24] <deanimean> kermit, openjre or sun?
[00:24] <jpds> !best > LUCHO2385
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> LUCHO2385: please don;t start flame wars
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: anything that works would be fine
[00:25] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, use aMSN, thats the best msg, and it really doesn't use that much ram
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, they both do.
[00:25] <disse> help me, I'm at the ubuntu live cd and mounting a crypted device is not working
[00:25] <disse> http://codepad.org/jpcSlCQV
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: how?
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, chromium from where
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> kermit, have you tried both java versions?  i though chromium used java quite easily at this point.
[00:25] <disse> hmm? your @ a flame war....
[00:25] <kermit> deanimean: from the usual way of installing anything
[00:25] <SimonSayez> Anyone have any problems with Google Earth on Ubuntu Linux ?
[00:25] <Ramzes> Once again Guys for your help. I am still learning linux and you saved me a lot of time and nerves!!!
[00:25] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: it's the one I normally use for MSN, but I'm on a live CD now
[00:25] <hiexpo> pidgin   ^
[00:25] <deanimean> kermit, do you have any java installed now?
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> !anyone > SimonSayez
[00:25] <cousteau`live> although I'm using MSN less each day
[00:26] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, just install the live cd, and then install aMSN
[00:26] <Wiesshund> anyone tried the 10.7 catalyst driver yet?
[00:26] <cousteau`live> pepper_haze: actually, you don't need to install a cd to install programs on it, you can install them on RAM
[00:26] <SimonSayez> I get my java from Oracle and install from the shell script
[00:26] <deanimean> kermit, well for the openjdk install openjkd-jre and icedtea6-plugin  for suns, enable the partner repo and install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre
[00:26] <Ramzes> Thanks and goodnight
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i agree with pepper_haze's remarks about aMSN (although i don't even use it anymore)
[00:26] <cousteau`live> I'm jsut testing Lucid before I upgrade
[00:27] <LUCHO2385> sorry for uppercase... is my first time here. I never used this before
[00:27] <cousteau`live> don't want something critical such as music or youtube videos not working and not being able to downgrade
[00:27] <yawar> what's the general experience with the nouveau driver for nvidia cards? is it fast? stable?
[00:27] <kermit> deanimean, ZykoticK9: i have both sun and open  installed
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> kermit, +1 on deanimean's last suggsetion
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> kermit, try open first if that fails try sun
[00:28] <SimonSayez> its not sun anymore its Oracle Java
[00:28] <maco> yawar: most systems it cant do 3D, but the nvidia user i know prefers it over the closed driver
[00:28] <pepper_haze> I use aMSN, the linux version of skype, and gyanchi for YM, I think those are the best messagers for linux
[00:28] <cousteau`live> yawar: have an nvidia card, the live cd didn-t display any 3D effects and requested me to install the nvidia drivers when I tried to enable them
[00:28] <maco> SimonSayez: and oracle's attempts at changing that string *totally* break eclipse
[00:28] <SimonSayez> maco lol
[00:28] <cousteau`live> so I guess (and it's just a guess) that it's not very good at 3D
[00:29] <cousteau`live> either that or I was using vesa and I'm now installing nouveau
[00:29] <maco> cousteau`live: 3D is in theory not supported at all
[00:29] <packrat> so, i have ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook.  it would seem that the wireless has been disabled.  I believe it is related to the switch used to toggle the wireless card but its not responding.  thoughts?
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, you can't properly install nvidia from LiveCD i don't think!  (requires reboot)
[00:29] <pepper_haze> cousteau`live, you have to set the graphics effects amount first, then you have to install the driver
[00:29] <maco> cousteau`live: in practice, a few cards (the ones that match what the developers of nouveau have) can do it
[00:29] <deanimean> kermit,  sudo update-alternatives --config java (java{tab complete}) and select which you need.
[00:29] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: I bet I can just restart X
[00:29] <hiexpo> as far as all around messangers go the one i have found to meat my expectations and needs all a round being able to use msn , yahoo myspace, facebook and many others pidgin wins    > thumbs up
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, incorrect it's a kernel module
[00:29] <cousteau`live> what's the live CD user password, just in case I lose my bet?
[00:30] <deanimean> kermit, apart from that, there is nothing else to it.
[00:30] <packrat> should i just elevate all actions on the signed in account?  and if so, how do i do that?
[00:30] <maco> cousteau`live: ubuntu, i think
[00:30] <yawar> cousteau`live: weird that it asked you to install nvidia's driver
[00:30] <hiexpo> cousteau`live,  there is none
[00:30] <cousteau`live> ZykoticK9: I've installed nvidia drivers and then just run sudo service gdm restart
[00:30] <cousteau`live> and they worked
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, "sometime" there is!  i've seen it several time.
[00:30] <maco> packrat: sudo modprobe -r  [wireless driver]  && sudo modprobe [wireless driver]     <-- maybe that if you know your module's name
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> cousteau`live, i don't believe you, best of luck man.
[00:31] <mikubuntu> guys, i'm at a friends trying to install 10.04, and it failed on the first partitioning step (says it failed to partition the ext4 file) what could be the problem, it will not go forward from here.  this is a usb stick i'm using, but i do have an alt install in the car.
[00:32] <packrat> maco, i did a rfkill list, and it says wireless LAN is hard blocked
[00:32] <pepper_haze> Hey maco, how are you?
[00:32] <earthling_> hi, I'm trying to install my printer, where do I find the PPD file for HP deskjet printers? can't find it on HP website or on hp-setup
[00:32] <hiexpo> i am sos so sorry to inform you of this greatly and devistating bad news     but ubuntu has no password
[00:32] <maco> packrat: ok.... i dont know. i just know that when my rfkill switch didnt work my way of undoing it was to unload/reload the module
[00:32] <antonio_> is there any easy way to share files between two ubuntu laptops?
[00:33] <packrat> hm
[00:33] <maco> hiexpo: mmm i thought sudo was configured on the live cd to not need one, but that if you somehow got to a gdm screen you needed one?
[00:33] <packrat> i dont know my modules name though
[00:33] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: samba?
[00:33] <deanimean> ssh
[00:33] <maco> pepper_haze: okie doo. you?
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting might help, good luck.
[00:33] <antonio_> aeon-ltd: so do I need samba installed on both machines?
[00:33] <maco> packrat: what kind of wireless card is it?
[00:33] <BraveSaintStuart> so, I'm having what I can presumably be described as a boot loader problem
[00:33] <packrat> not sure.  its an acer aspire one
[00:34] <packrat> jas
[00:34] <pepper_haze> maco, I am a little depressed over the shooting that happened in the news yesterday, other then that, I am fine
[00:34] <maco> packrat: pastebin the output of "lspci" please
[00:34] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: no only one can host the samba server and if set up the other can access it with/without password
[00:34] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, share between - SSH --- Places / Connect to Server / SSH - enter details.
[00:34] <hiexpo> there is only a couple of distros that i know of that had a password set to login live
[00:34] <mikubuntu> says :: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of Serial ATA RAID isw_bebjjhjaff_ARRAY (mirror) failed.
[00:34] <packrat> maco, uhm, im not on this chnnel with the netbook in question
[00:34] <aeon-ltd> antonio_: although since your already using nautilus i'd look up dropbox :)
[00:34] <BraveSaintStuart> I'm not exactly sure what is going on with my boot loader, but for now, all I know is that the only way I can boot an OS is by using my ubuntu installer file on my flash drive
[00:35] <antonio_> zykotick9: how easy is that to steup?
[00:35] <earthling_> thx Zykotick9
[00:35] <maco> packrat: oh...ok then run lspci and look for something about network
[00:35] <packrat> got it
[00:35] <packrat> atheros AR5001
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, easy install openssh server and you're done.
[00:35] <maco> hiexpo: when you boot you dont need one, it does autologin, but i think you can log out and then you do need one
[00:35] <maco> packrat: lsmod | grep ath
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, did you find it already?
[00:35] <BraveSaintStuart> i'm not sure if windows keeps uninstalling it or what's happening
[00:35] <maco> packrat: might see ath5k or ath9k  or something like that?
[00:35] <earthling_> I'm looking
[00:36] <BraveSaintStuart> but simply reinstalling grub doesn't seem to work either
[00:36] <packrat> yup, ath5k
[00:36] <maco> packrat: thatd be your module's name
[00:36] <hiexpo> never seen that
[00:36] <antonio_> zykotick9: I have like 3 1/2 gigs to transfer...any idea how long it may take..other lappy gets weird after a few minutes
[00:36] <BraveSaintStuart> I hate to be annoying, but anybody got an answer for me on that?
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, technically "a long time" ;)
[00:37] <packrat> cool, that worked.  thanks maco
[00:37] <maco> packrat: yay!
[00:37] <packrat> is there a way to disable the hard-disabling switch?
[00:37] <cousteau`live> &quit restarting session, let's see what happens
[00:37] <cousteau`live> oops
[00:38] <BraveSaintStuart> hi anyone
[00:38] <antonio_> zykotick9: any idea for anything that would be faster?
[00:38] <racerd> how do i configure grub to find a windows installation on a drive i threw into my linux box?
[00:38] <hiexpo> i am being lazy but what was the problem witn a ath5k card?
[00:39] <SimonSayez> How are you downloading flv files from youtube to Ubuntu Linux ?
[00:40] <hiexpo> BraveSaintStuart,  be patient if anyone can help they will ok
[00:40] <packrat> hiexpo, good question.  ubuntu 10.04 seems unresponsive to hard-enable switches
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, 3+GB is going to take a long time across network, no matter what you use to share the files.
[00:40] <packrat> only resolution was to reload the module
[00:40] <antonio_> hmm
[00:41] <BraveSaintStuart> hiexpo: yessir
[00:41] <SimonSayez> I need a Linux method to grab flv files from youtube
[00:41] <ZykoticK9> racerd, assuming Grub2 - just let grub autodetect from the chrooted LiveCD and it "should" pick up the new Windows option.  See !grub2 for details.
[00:41] <JohnRobert> is f-spot still the most popular/best photo organising tool on ubuntu?
[00:41] <hiexpo> !youtube-dl > SimonSayez
[00:42] <racerd> chrooted livecd?
[00:42] <linxeh> JohnRobert: that or picasa (if you dont mind commercial software)
[00:42] <racerd> what is that?
[00:42] <SimonSayez> hiexpo, That doesnt work for me
[00:42] <packrat> SimonSayez, i think there is a javascript
[00:42] <JohnRobert> ta
[00:42] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, as they are playing they are stored in /tmp as a Flashj3kjkj file - just get a download plugin for your web browser
[00:42] <SimonSayez> packrat, trying to Google more info on it
[00:42] <packrat> javascript:if(document.location.href.match(/http:\/\/[a-zA-Z\.]*youtube\.com\/watch/)){document.location.href='http://www.youtube.com/get_video?fmt='+(isHDAvailable?'22':'18')+'&video_id='+swfArgs['video_id']+'&t='+swfArgs['t']}
[00:43] <packrat> i cant remember what that outputs though
[00:43] <thune3> SimonSayez: i always get the latest youtube-dl from http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/downloads , since ubuntu repo doesn't keep up
[00:43] <tesuji> anyone know about setting up dialup?  i have an ancient laptop which wvdial does not recognize the modem
[00:43] <racerd> !grub2
[00:43] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, if it's ONLY Youtube you want to download from check out the CLI application youtube-dl (NOTE the version in repo may be broken)
[00:43] <SimonSayez> thune3, let me try that thanks
[00:43] <hiexpo> SimonSayez,  you need the new one use Google i can not discus that here OK it is illegal
[00:44] <hiexpo> SimonSayez,  maybe try in google youtube-dl not working   :)
[00:45] <kermit> deanimean: neither alternative worked
[00:45] <kermit> deanimean: i removed the open* things which would run but just spin the cpu, but i cant figure out how to install the sun-java6-plugin
[00:46] <cousteau`live> so you were right, I can't use the nvidia drivers, at least now!
[00:46] <ZykoticK9> kermit, you need to add the parner repo
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> !partner
[00:47] <CompuBocik>  http://compu.boo.pl/
[00:47] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, thanks.  i hadn't seen the !partner factoid recently, that's pretty cool
[00:47] <kermit> ZykoticK9: thanks!
[00:47] <CompuBocik>  http://compu.boo.pl/
[00:48] <bastidrazor> CompuBocik: what is that link for?
[00:49] <kermit> ZykoticK9, deanimean: yey, its working now!
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> kermit, nice
[00:51] <outer_space> what do I do with this message when I login with "You have new mail in /var/mail/root" how to read this?
[00:51] <kuna> anyone know how to fix pointer styles being ignored in GNOME in 10.04?
[00:52] <antonio_> zykotick9: how in the heck do I use openssh? this is confusing as hell
[00:52] <bastidrazor> outer_space: /var/mail/  should be thelocation of this
[00:53] <Oer> new kernel update 2.6.32-24, there goes my uptime 01:51:43 up 9 days, 20:28,  2 users,  load average: 1.50, 0.99, 0.87
[00:53] <tesuji> anyone know about setting up dialup?  i have an ancient laptop which wvdial does not recognize the modem
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, once the server is installed on one machine try "ssh localhost" then log in and use exit to close the ssh session - just to test it's working
[00:53] <bastidrazor> outer_space: go to that directory and read it with a text editor. there is normally a crazy named file there.
[00:54] <BraveSaintStuart> so... again, just because my mention of anything is long gone, here's the whole situation... I have a netbook with win7 on it.  I installed Ubuntu.  I haven't done anything additional that I know of that would affect the way the OSs boot, but now Grub will not come up and neither will any OS, unless of course I run Ubuntu from the installer
[00:54] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sorry "exit" is a command to close the ssh session (if that wasn't clear)
[00:54] <YankDownUnder> kuna, Have you tried "sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme" ?
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> kuna, turn off compiz and i bet your cursor shows up!
[00:55] <earthling_> Zykotick9, checked that link, still can't find it, I suppose I could try a PPD file for a different printer
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, so long as it's CLOSE in model!
[00:55] <kuna> ZykoticK9: aye, it does
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, have you just tried googling your printer model and PPD?  sorry for the !google violation.
[00:56] <earthling_> yes
[00:56] <BraveSaintStuart> in addition, I know that if I can get to the boot loader, everything boots fine
[00:56] <antonio_> sorry zykotick9: this is confusing as hell...methinks samba or another gui might be a ton easier for me
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> kuna, common issue - not sure if there are various bugs about it?
[00:56] <SimonSayez> okay that new youtube-dl works GREAT on Ubuntu
[00:56] <kuna> YankDownUnder: I would like the selection to follow the GNOME appearance pref's, not necessarily change the default every time I want to change the cursor.
[00:56] <BraveSaintStuart> so I don't know if it's just a problem with Grub being overridden by Windows or if it's something else
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, no forget about the cosole stuff now!  you can use the Gnome GUI for connect to Server!
[00:57] <SimonSayez> I was able to capture flv file
[00:57] <antonio_> ah
[00:57] <deanimean> SimonSayez,  youtube-dl -b -o "%(title)s.%(ext)s" youtube-url
[00:57] <antonio_> zykotick9: mind if I pm you?
[00:57] <SimonSayez> deanimean, thanks
[00:58] <tesuji> anyone know about settig up dialup?
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, do you know what the "-b" has been updated too?  thas results in error for me using newer version!
[00:58] <deanimean> SimonSayez, never accept flv !
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, keep it here please.
[00:58] <antonio_> ok  np, brb
[00:58] <pepito> How can I use gdebi in order to install a program with all its dependencies locally (provided that I already have such program with all its dependencies in a folder)??
[00:59] <deanimean> they changed it again?
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  well with dpkg you could do 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' in that dir.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  that might work with gedebi. or copy all the debs  to /var/cache/apt/????? (whever the devbs are archived at)
[00:59] <earthling_> Zykotick9, my printer is HP Deskjet D4160 , its 4 years old, so it should work with ubuntu right?
[01:00] <bastidrazor>  Dr_Willis /var/cache/apt/archives/  .. you were close
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> earthling_:  check the cups.org site to see where its at.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  yea. They need tab completion for paths on IRC. :)
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> earthling_, i have no idea
[01:00] <antonio_> so zkycotick9: I went to term...did open ssh...asked for a password...
[01:00] <antonio_> seems like it worked thus far
[01:00] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: irssi has it =}
[01:00] <earthling_> ok
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, my youtube-dl version and help file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/473321/
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  so if you do  ls /var/ <tab> in irssi it fills in the path? never sene that befor
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  Oh golly. it does work in irssi also. :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  in weechat :)
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, calm down LOL :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Tab = the Wonder Key of the Ages. :)
[01:01] <bastidrazor> heh
[01:02] <cousteau`live> OMG it's true!
[01:02] <cousteau`live> now I do want a GUI for IRSSI
[01:02] <pepito> Dr_Willis, I am too much of a purist to consider the /var/cache/apt/?? approach. That leaves us the gdebi and dpkg route. With dpkg -i it would probably work, the only problem is that I have a giant folder with many programs and I would like dpkg to JUST install a given program and its dependencies (kinda like apt-get would do)... of course, I could classify programs and its dependencies by folders and that would do it,but still...
[01:02] <pepito> gdebi sounds good in principle
[01:02] <pepito> because it is intended to work locally
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> cousteau`live: smuxi is almost that.. I perfer weechat however.
[01:02] <cousteau`live> cause I'm too used to point-and-click... although it's good even from terminal
[01:02] <pepito> the problem is that it only takes the main *.deb program locally
[01:02] <pepito> in order to get the deps it tries to go online
[01:03] <pepito> which is against what I would like to do
[01:03] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, looks like they messed with it again....ugh
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  may as well copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/  and be done with it.. they will get copied there anyway i belive once you install them
[01:03] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, i miss -b :(..
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  you would need ALL that it needs in the cache.  one way or another. :)
[01:04] <antonio_> zykotick9: whenever you have some free time, can you help me to fire up the gui and figure out how to do this
[01:04] <shiv> Ia m trying to use aptoncd but its not listing all the programs that are installed. I can add folders in which the other programs are but what is the C:\Program Files equivalent in linux?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  problem with keeping an app and asll its 'debs' in a folder. is that you   are wasting a lot of space with redundant debs, You could use links i guess.. but what are you gaining by this sorting stuff out.
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, now is always good, do you know the IP of the other machine (any firewall/routing issues we need to know about)?
[01:04]  * cousteau`live has written "smuxi" and "weechat" on his whiteboard to check them tomorrow
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> !info smuxi
[01:04] <kelvie_> shiv: the concept of the application all occupying a single directory doesn't exist in the unix world
[01:04] <OOnia>  ***  I am back.  Gone for 1hr 32mins 20secs  ***
[01:05] <antonio_> whats the term command for discovering the ip?
[01:05] <pepito> Dr_Willis, that's why I didn't do it: I would end up having the same deps repeated over and over in different folders
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, from the other machine try Places / Connect to Server / then select SSH for type and enter the IP address of server and your username and stuff...
[01:05] <Queuetip> antonio_ ifconfig
[01:05] <pepito> an approach that worked kinda neatly was that of editing sources.list
[01:05] <pepito> and adding a "deb file:/" line
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> pepito:  for a small network. You m ay want to set up an apt-cacher machine to keep everything cached for the whole lan
[01:05] <shiv> kelvie_, APTonCD gives an option to add folders..thats aok
[01:05] <cousteau`live> antonio_: I use   wget www.whatismyip.org -qO-
[01:06] <shiv> kelvie_, APTonCD gives an option to add folders..thats ok I will use remastersys
[01:06] <pepito> but still it tries to go online and it doesnt' want to comply with it
[01:06] <deanimean> ZykoticK9,  use the newer version
[01:06] <rockman> hello  I'm new here
[01:06] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.08.04/youtube-dl
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, what version are you using?
[01:06] <pepito> Dr_Willis, I am looking for a USB-drive and/or CD/DVD approach, not a network approach
[01:06] <rockman> got some problem here
[01:06] <cousteau`live> echo "Your IP is: $(wget www.whatismyip.org -qO-)"
[01:06] <pepito> it works kinda neatly if you create a CD with the files and the deps
[01:07] <nixoeen> NetworkManager doesn't show up DSL Connections (PPPoE) when I'm connecting to a Wireless Accesspoint. However, it's showing them with wired Ethernet connection. Anyone else had this problem ?
[01:07] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, was the repo version, but use the newer script.  just +x it and replace
[01:07] <deanimean> ZykoticK9, -b works.
[01:07] <pepito> but it works worse if you try to force apt-get to install from a local source such as a usb-drive or a folder in your hdd
[01:07] <zex> uhat is the command to list attached thumb drives?
[01:07] <pepito> somehow it insists in going online
[01:07] <pepito> even when you put the "deb file:/" in the first line
[01:07] <pepito> plus, creating the Packages.gz file is quite a hassle
[01:08] <ENeGMA> would anyone be willing to help me get a creative zen working?  I've tried everything I can find on the internet
[01:08] <ZykoticK9> deanimean, thanks!
[01:08] <cousteau`live> ok, I tested sound and it works, jack works, graphics didn't work but I could always install them the hard way (downloading the nvidia driver), anyway I think they may work once installed
[01:08] <dexi> Does anyone know if theres a way for ubuntu to go into the "Locked" screen, but not a screensaver?
[01:08] <cousteau`live> what else can I test?
[01:08] <cousteau`live> youtube videos, wait
[01:08] <dblitztech> hello everyone.. I have a problem with pulseaudio and skype.. Trying to get skype to see my usb headset instead of pulse audio ?
[01:08] <rockman> after i wipe clean my hard drive and install ubuntu and it said to remove the cd before it can restart.
[01:09] <pradeep> dexi, it is on your top rigth corner of your screen
[01:09] <antonio_> zkotick9: I went to whatismyip.com for both of my machines...
[01:09] <antonio_> they both have the same ip address
[01:09] <rockman> and it only show underline blinking on upper left corner forever
[01:09] <dexi> pradeep, that activates screensaver as well...
[01:09] <rockman> boot up problem?
[01:09] <pradeep> dexi, disable your screen saver then
[01:10] <dblitztech> any suggestions ?
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, that's because that's your public IP not your private IP (i saw people giving you the bad advice, but someone right off the bat told you the command was "ifconfig")
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> !tab > antonio_
[01:10] <dexi> pradeep, I did...
[01:11] <antonio_> zykotick9: thanks forgot about that ;)P
[01:11] <antonio_> ;)
[01:11] <dblitztech> hello everyone.. I have a problem with pulseaudio and skype.. Trying to get skype to see my usb headset instead of pulse audio, anyway to reconfigure it to get it to use my headset ?
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, to get my nic you probably just have to type Z y (TAB), a lot easier then typing it out (notice the capital Z)
[01:12] <dblitztech> I found some forums which are old suggesting to remove pulse and install esound, but there can be issues with it as well.
[01:12] <antonio_> ZykoticK9: ok now I have both of my ips...you said to go to places, connect to server, right?
[01:12] <dblitztech> Don't know if it still holds true because I am using 10.04
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, yup and select SSH
[01:13] <exe> p
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, you might want to add a bookmark AFTER you know it's working!
[01:14] <rockman> anyone available to assist me?
[01:14] <Queuetip> rockman: don't ask to ask, just ask
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, leave port blank (or 22), for folder name try leaving it blank (if that fails put / or you could try ~ or the long version of same /home/YOURUSERNAME),
[01:14] <deanimean> ssh-copy-id to save passwords..
[01:14] <antonio_> ah this is not that hard at all :D
[01:15] <radi> can anyone tell me where i can find this package : freetype2 ?
[01:15] <CyberSoldat> hi all
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> !find freetype
[01:15] <dblitztech> orted until April 2011 (Desktop) or April 2013 (Server)
[01:15] <dblitztech> Jaunty Jackalope
[01:15] <dblitztech> 9.04
[01:15] <dblitztech> April 23, 2009
[01:15] <FloodBot2> dblitztech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <dblitztech> Supported until October sorry
[01:15] <dblitztech> sorry
[01:15] <deanimean> !eol jaunty
[01:15] <radi> Dr_Willis: which one of these ?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> radi:  no idea
[01:16] <deanimean> well its october.
[01:16] <radi> i need it to compile one of E17's libraries Evas
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> radi:  given that its listing freetype6 - what are you using that wants freetype2 ?
[01:16] <otomo> hullo
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> radi:  theres the build-deps option to apt ghat can insrtall ALL needed dev dependencies for an applicaiton thats in the repos
[01:16] <radi> Dr_Who: Evas, thats for enlightment
[01:17] <antonio_> argh..29 hours!
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, lol - but it's working :)
[01:17] <ENeGMA> what does it mean when trying to mount an mp3 player when you get this error message: Unexpected error: Error opening file: Transport endpoint is not connected"?
[01:17] <antonio_> hah true
[01:17] <antonio_> I need to find a better way to xfer all of this...
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, can't you just burn it to a dvd?
[01:18] <ndxtg> Hi I found this command: s/smthing/smthing2/g does anyone know what the /g thing is?
[01:18] <gizol> hello
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, or USB stick/drive/key
[01:18] <bastidrazor> ndxtg: that means to do it globally. it will do it above where you're at in the file too. not just below
[01:18] <deanimean> 64gig usb stick for my win. :)
[01:18] <ndxtg> bastidrazor: is there any "man" page for this ?
[01:19] <katuki> hi there, i have a problem with wubi, anybody could help me?
[01:19] <deanimean> antonio_, 29 hours?  how much are you transferring?
[01:19] <bastidrazor> ndxtg: you're doing regular expressions. no man page that i know of.
[01:19] <antonio_> zykotick9: hahahahahahaha burn it do a dvd...why did I not think of that!!
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  regular expressions 101 - /g i think is for global
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  susbute /pattern/thing/ globally
[01:20] <Amer30> hi can someone help me to fix my problem
[01:20] <Amer30> i can't start gnome
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  regular expressions is the kind of thing that you read about and are totally baffled.. then start to use.. and then become addicted/amazed :)
[01:20] <Amer30> if i try to pastebinit i can'tpaste anything
[01:20] <wildeja> Hi, How do i synchronise calendar,contacts,etc in evolution mail for ubuntu 10.04? I would like to sync with laptop. Thank you
[01:21] <ndxtg> ok thank you Dr_Willis and bastidrazor , Im actually learning reg express
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> Dosent UbuntuOne let you 'sync' those things? i just use it to sync my Tomboy Notes. But i thought it could do more.
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, UbuntuOne would be perfect - BUT i don't think some of those sync are working right now :(
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i got a book on the topic.  its pretty niffty tool.
[01:21] <johnf_> hi
[01:22] <tesuji> anyone know about settig up dialup?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !dialup
[01:22] <deanimean> set .evolution to sync?
[01:22] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: did you mean eBook? if yes please let me know the link :D
[01:22] <cousteau`live> youtube working, audio (and jack) working, nvidia drivers don't seem to but I guess they'll work... what else can I test?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  you aer refering to actual dialup with a serial modem and a normal phone line? not via some cellphone, or other fancy stuff?
[01:22] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, Thank you for the suggestion. I would prefer to do the dync over a LAN though offline.
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i got a real book :) it was on the bargin bin. The ebook versions are out there i recall.
[01:22] <cousteau`live> my midi controller
[01:22] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, ahhh.  rsync then?
[01:23]  * chromer raises his hand as if to ask a question
[01:23] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i'm talking about old fashioned dialup with an old fashioned modem, not a wifi modem
[01:23] <pepper_haze> well I just had a enlightening conversation with maco in private
[01:23] <deanimean> chromer, ask away.
[01:23] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes, serial modem
[01:23] <otomo> quit
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  theres tools for it.. but ive not used them in years. :) check that dialup factoid
[01:23] <johnf_> i keep having this problem while booting 10.04 netbook edition on my HP mini 110 : 1/5 of the time it will boot up fine. the other 4/5 it will only display "_" blinking in the top left corner of a black screen. i tried a fix to edit the GRUB file and it seemed to work but the problem is back
[01:23] <johnf_> any help would be appreciated
[01:23] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, That will work over network?, if so i will go do my research :)
[01:24] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes i looked and apparently i have to manuall configure and it is nontrivial
[01:24] <yaaang> help, update-notifier never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think update-notifier never worked.
[01:24] <chromer> I am looking for away to make 10.04 LTS to properly disable the touchpad entirely when I have a mouse connected. I had it working in the 2 prior versions, but what I am trying to do as I did before is not working this time.
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  very possible. Ive not used it in ages. but whats to configure? enter your phone # and other info.. and dial in...
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  last i used dialup in linux it wasent too hard. :) but i used wvdial i recall
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> wildbat, ya rsync can certainly be used across networks, but perhaps only through ssh pipes?  I don't use rsync very much but you should Definitely look into it!
[01:25] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, networkmanager does not see my serial modem :( so i have to use setserial and give it information i don't know :(
[01:25] <deanimean> chromer, I think you might want gpointing-device-settings
[01:25] <MaRk-I> ndxtg: just search for cheat sheets ;^)  http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/103/regular-expressions-cheat-sheets/
[01:25] <chromer> I have tried touchfreeze and the command "syndaemon -d -t -i 1"
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  are you sure the modem even has linux support.
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, see above.  sorry wildbat (bad with tab today, and other days too ;)
[01:25] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, and like everybody else i haven't used a modem in 20 years
[01:26] <chromer> deanimean: where do I find that or do I need to get that from synaptic?
[01:26] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i don't know
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  since network manager dosent see it.. i would almost bet its not supported.
[01:26] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, but it's a serial device and there are standards...
[01:26] <cousteau`live> I guess every java based thing will be borked due to openjdk vs sun java... if I find bugs (although I avoid the usage of java) I'll install the old sun-java6
[01:26] <deanimean> chromer, I *think* it has the option to disable touchpad.. but wether it has an option to disable when mouse is used I dont know. yes just in the main repo
[01:27] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, once you config with setserial then there are tools to configure and use - but it doesn't see the modem :(
[01:27] <chromer> deanimean: I will try it
[01:27] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, i've NEVER used a modem with linux before, but i know a lot of "Win-modems" don't work.  have you checked that your modem works in linux?
[01:27] <tesuji> ZykoticK9, if you aren't familiar with modems you need to read th docs
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  I dont recall ever needing to use setserial on an internal modem.. or is this an external one on the serial port>?
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> tesuji, ok sorry.
[01:28] <yaaang> help, update-manager never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think this never worked. any ideas on where to look to start debugging this?
[01:28] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, it is internal and there is one - i suppose i have to start by figuring out how to figure out what the specs are
[01:28] <deanimean> chromer, its prefs are in system menu, it allows touchpad on/off/touchpad tapping scrolling off.
[01:29] <wildeja> ZykoticK9, Cheers
[01:29] <sparrW|2> I have requested apt-get to install some packages that require a lot of other packages to be uninstalled. I appear to be stuck with "apt-get -f install" removing those packages, and I don't want that. How can I "cancel" the operation that is pending?
[01:29] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i know!  i'll just put windows back on my laptop!  what a solution, eh?
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  i would guss that an internal is 152000 8N1 - but as i said. ive never needed to set those settings for an internal modem. You could fire up minicom and just play with the settings till you can get it to dial out via 'ATDT some-safe-number'
[01:29] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, close synaptic?  or USC?
[01:30] <cousteau`live> sparrW|2: on my system, apt-get -f install also attempts to install or uninstall (can't remember) some packages
[01:30] <deanimean> why ubuntu by default doesnt have a simple touch pad OFF utility I  dont know..it should.
[01:30] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: I am using apt-get and aptitude from the command line
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, sorry I'm on the trolley now
[01:30] <cousteau`live> I think it's not important
[01:30] <sparrW|2> cousteau`live: I can't install anything else until I fix it
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  i dont care what you do really. :) but I think you may be  hitting a 'modem not supported at all, issue. instead of a needing to confiogure it issue' but good luck. Windows MIGHT tell you waht settings you are looking for.
[01:30] <cousteau`live> oh
[01:31] <knoppies> I plan on upgrading 2 of my systems from 9.04 to 10.04, but I would like to downgrade GDM to 2.10. Are there any issues/concerns that I should be worried about?
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, "apt-get -f install" is quasi-required to fix your currently broken APT state.  that command is suppose to FIX apt.
[01:31] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, i'm being facetious - it is not possible to put windows on this laptop - the harddisk croaked and i have installed ubuntu on a thumbdrive
[01:31] <jfcaron> Is there a way to copy the file permissions from one file "onto" another file, i.e. keep the contents of the files unchanged, but make the permissions the same?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  if nothing else.. you could script such a thing,.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  i got a possible answer just now when i googled 'bash clone permissions' :)
[01:32] <cousteau`live> chmod --reference=OTHERFILE FILE
[01:33] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, minicom defaults to tty8 which is an active console - thx for suggest
[01:33] <cousteau`live> man chmod
[01:33] <sparrW|2> cousteau`live: I'm only maybe 3 packages away from getting a very conflicted package installed, and now I'm stuck
[01:33] <jfcaron> Dr_Willis, cousteau`live: Thanks.
[01:33] <cousteau`live> yw
[01:33] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: the "fix" it wants to apply is to install 2 packages and uninstall 9 more. Those 9 packages are VERY HARD to install. I would prefer to keep them and not install the other 2.
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, that would require 9.04 to 9.10 then update to 10.04.  are you sure you can't fresh install?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> jfcaron:  perhaps (test this out first) --> cp -rp <source> <target> will keep the perms of the source and put them on
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, i think those are the packages that are broken!
[01:34] <gimmickless_> Setting up a new install of Ubuntu Server. Trying to use USB wireless to access router with WPA protection. I know the password. I don't know the command to access router with said pw. help?
[01:34] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: they are quite broken, I had to use dpkg --ignore-depends heavily to get them installed
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:    set minicom to be the tty of the modem. (dmesg may tell you what that is)
[01:35] <jfcaron> Dr_Willis: Turns out the chmod command has that built-in, as cousteau`live mentioned.  chmod --reference=REFILE.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  also i notice that /dev/ttyS* is owned by the dialout group. perhaps your users need to also be in that group
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> sparrW|2, right!  which in the process breaks your APT system.  your choice you can keep you broken fix or fix your APT but not both.  you also won't be able to update or install anything else you understand?
[01:35] <knoppies> ZykoticK9, I meant a fresh install. I had a bad experience with updating back in 2008. Always done fresh installs since. But should I have concerns about downgrading the GDM to 2.10?
[01:35] <cousteau`live> don't know if it will also change the owner, though
[01:36] <sparrW|2> ZykoticK9: that is... less than ideal. How can I have packages with unmet dependencies installed and keep apt working?
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, i would too.  but fresh install is the way to go ;)
[01:36] <aleoram> I have downloaded and extracted the latest version of Geany from the website. How do I start it?
[01:36] <yaaang> help, update-manager never pops up even when i have updates. using 10.04, installed from scratch 2 months ago. i think this never worked. any ideas on where to look to start debugging this?
[01:36] <cousteau`live> aleoram: you'll first need to compile it
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> knoppies, i don't have any specific knowledge of changing GDM, certainly not the new GDM stuff!
[01:37] <cousteau`live> look for an already compiled .deb package, they usually have them
[01:37] <knoppies> Thank You ZykoticK9
[01:37] <aleoram> cousteau`live, How can I compile it?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  theres ppa repos of geany i thouight to let you use teh package maanger.. if its an binary archive. extract it, cd to the directory and run the binaries ./whatever
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  unless you got the source from the web site....
[01:37] <aleoram> cousteau`live,  Repos don't have the latest version of geany.
[01:37] <chromer> deanimean: that looks like it is gonna work, it would've been nice tho if there was a utility that detected when no mouse was plugged in to allow it to be undisabled and then when a mouse was plugged in to immediately disable it. (it being the touchpad). and I do know about the "smack spacebar 3 times" trick to reenable the touchpad.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  theres PPA repos that have updated versions
[01:37] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I got the source from the website.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  then you got to compile the source. good luck.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> geany --version
[01:38] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I checked the ppa repos but not the latest version, again how do I compile it?
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> geany 0.19 (built on Jul 20 2010 with GTK 2.20.1, GLib 2.24.1)
[01:38] <cousteau`live> aleoram: hmm, you're right, neither the repos nor the PPA repository have geany ~
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, that's really not directly an Ubuntu issue... we can support the geany in repo, or quasi-PPA version, but compiling from source...
[01:38] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, here is what dmesg says about serial http://pastebin.com/77GmUg9R
[01:39] <cousteau`live> *geany 0.19
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> looks like i got the latest geany from some PPA's
[01:39] <cousteau`live> well, you'll first need to install build-essential
[01:39] <aleoram> cousteau`live,  Ok, I'll look in the terminal for that package.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> I got geany .19 it seems from the 'getdeb' repositories
[01:40] <MaRk-I> !compile | aleoram
[01:40] <cousteau`live> then you'll need a bunch of libraries, such as libgtk2.0-dev
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> MaRk-I, thanks
[01:40] <cousteau`live> or, look for it in getdeb
[01:41] <MaRk-I> ZykoticK9: yw
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  those just look like the serial ports on the pc/moptherboard. perhaps check lspci and see if theres any info on the modem
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> !info geany
[01:42] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, 00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[01:42] <cousteau`live> yes, geany is available from getdeb repos... but since they changed it, it's quite hard to install a package without installing all their repos
[01:42] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, but that doesn't tell me what port, irq, etc
[01:43] <ENeGMA> I'm having this exact problem: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8646053&postcount=53     Does anyone know of any solution?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  is there even a /dev/ttyS# for the modem. you have any /dev/ttyS*?
[01:43] <frxstrem> is there some proxy software that can be used to log raw network traffic?
[01:44] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, yes, 0 to 3, but wvdial doesn't detect a modem on any of them
[01:44] <deanimean> chromer, yeah its a bit much there is not yet a nice easy tool to ditch the touchpad.. I`m happy with disabling scroll and mouseclicks..
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  this site mentiones that modem -  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=41216   Not ubuntu specific - but it may give some info
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, not sure about "proxy software" but have you looked at wireshark?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> !info slmodem
[01:45] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9: yes, but the problem is that I want to analyze traffic for my iPod touch, and my computer does not receive network traffic from other devices on the network
[01:46] <frxstrem> therefore I though I could just get a proxy to do the same thing, and set my iPod up to use that proxy
[01:46] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: there is an sl-modem-daemon
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, oooohhhh, you might want to check out the route modifications like ddwrt and stuff, they probably have logging you're looking for.  good luck.
[01:47] <aleoram> Where can i get gtk+-2.0?
[01:47] <tesuji> Dr_Willis, now  i see what's going on - the dialer program tries those devices and gets no response
[01:47] <jimi_> what does plugin container deleted mean on alsa sound preferences?
[01:47] <ottermaton> Does anyone have any experience with and hopefully a solution to a laptop slow to resume from suspend?
[01:47] <mikeplus64> aleoram: Doesn't it come with Ubuntu anyway?
[01:48] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  Terminal says I do not have it.
[01:48] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[01:48] <mikeplus64> Search for 'gtk' and see what you have.
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> tesuji:  im seeing a few hits  in the forums also.   heres teh 2 i am looking at.
[01:48] <radi> is there a way to check how long is gonna take to compile something ?
[01:48] <mikeplus64> It could be "gtk2" or a number of other things.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> and http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1367142 http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/
[01:49] <jimi_> my audio stopped working after an update of a few packages... and not alsa says plugin container deleted
[01:49] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  gtk2: command not found
[01:49] <Spawn> How do you get the fish to go away?
[01:49] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  I have tried many names but still nothing.
[01:49] <radi> fish ?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Spawn:  killall gnome-panel
[01:50] <Spawn> the feed the fish fish
[01:50] <radi> lol
[01:50] <mikeplus64> aleoram: apt-get search gtk ? I'm not sure of the exact command. ( <--- runs Arch Linux )
[01:50] <frxstrem> how do you run .jar programs in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <radi> back back and forward forward
[01:50] <radi> ;p
[01:50] <mikeplus64> "java -jar whateveritis.jar" I think.
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  java --jar foo.jar    (or it may be -jar)
[01:50] <bastidrazor> frxstrem: java -jar file.jar
[01:51] <frxstrem> Dr_Willis, bastidrazor: ok, thanks
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> silly programs not following the - vs -- standards. :)
[01:51] <aleoram> mikeplus64,  Doesn't work, that command.
[01:51] <stevecam> in nautilus when im browsing the SMB network of a windows machine it wont update the list of new shares until next time i log on to my user, how can i tell the browser in nautilus to reload the folders another computer has shared
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you still trying to compile geany?
[01:52] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Yes sir!
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  is there really SOMTHING thats so needed in the new version?  Im using the getdeb version.. but if you just gotta compile check out this command --<
[01:52] <stevecam> i press the reload button in the taskbar but it just reloads what is in the cache
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:   sudo apt-get build-dep geany
[01:53] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  What does it do?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  are you just obsessed with having the latest? or is there an actualy new feature/fix in teh .19 that you must have?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  installs all the dependencies needed to build a package.
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  thus insstalling all the dependencies needed to build from source also. :)
[01:53] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Is there a problem in trying to actual learn to compile and use the terminal?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you may want to learn with somthing simpiler..
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  like helloworld.c
[01:54] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Trust me, that is too simple.
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  you never said this was an exersize to 'learn' you wanted the latest..  theres ways other then source for that as we mentiooned
[01:54] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I just want to learn how to compile and stop using ubuntu software center or aptitude install.
[01:55] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  Then excuse me.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  use the build-deps feature to insstall all the neded deps/dev packages.. then start compiling.
[01:55] <dtcrshr> aleoram, go slackware
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> 'build-deps' makes compiling stuff a lot easier. :)
[01:55] <aleoram> dtcrshr,  Trust me, I will.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> but if the program was not in the repos. then that wouldent work.
[01:56] <AlesCzech> Hi all
[01:58] <AlesCzech> IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE CZECH REPUBLIC?
[01:58] <ipBoyar> yea. you
[01:59] <AlesCzech> ROFL
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, if you really want to move away from software center or aptitude then you might really want to try out another linux distro.  Ubuntu's repo is what makes ubuntu as easy/good.  best of luck whatever you do - linux rocks cause you're free to make your own decisions ;)
[02:00] <MaRk-I> !cezch ! AlesCzech
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  juist a moment and i will pastebin my bash history of how i just compiled geany.
[02:00] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  thank you!
[02:00] <SimonSayez> ZykoticK9, and linuxmakes you use your brain more than Windows
[02:00] <MaRk-I> heh
[02:00] <MaRk-I> !czech | AlesCzech
[02:01] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:01] <gimmickless_> Server problem: Fresh install of 10.4. Having trouble connecting to WPA-protected router. /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf might be configured improperly. Help?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> aleoram, for compiling software read any INSTALL or README that comes with the source, but typically you'd use "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install" but that might NOT be the case for the source YOU are compiling.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/473335/
[02:01] <aleoram> ZykoticK9,  Thank you so much.
[02:01] <systemd0wn> gimmickless, only having problems with wpa?
[02:02] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn: Pretty sure that's the problem. w/o connecting, can't use this box as a Samba server.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> aleoram:  with the build-dep command to install the needed deps. compiling geany was rather trivial. now IF it was some program not in the repository. You would need to read the output of confiogure and make, and the docs. and learn what support -dev packages were needed for that specific app
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> !checkinstall | aleoram
[02:03] <aleoram> Dr_Willis,  I see.
[02:03] <aleoram> Thanks to both of you for replying!
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> ive not even looked at the !compile factoid in ages. :)
[02:04] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, well lets leave samba out of this for now since it won't effect your associating with an AP. Troubleshoot smb problems once we have connectivity :)
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[02:04] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:04] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn, understood
[02:04] <Wiesshund> Grrr building new catalyst drivers is a pain in the arse
[02:05] <StuckMojo> how do you get to the grub prompt in lucid when there's only one kernel?
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, hold shift down while booting
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> that compile factoid page dosent mention the build-dep option. but it has some othet neat options mentioned. :)
[02:05] <StuckMojo> i.e. how do you boot single user mode or not boot into x?
[02:05] <StuckMojo> ah ok
[02:05] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, i'm doing a little research, give me a sec
[02:06] <Karen_m> my sound is messed up, when i put my headphones into the jack i hear weird noises
[02:06] <StuckMojo> i jsut upgraded a fresh install of kamic, and it locks the laptop when it loads the X driver
[02:06] <StuckMojo> it was doing that on the install cd to
[02:06] <StuckMojo> too
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  and your video card is a?
[02:06] <StuckMojo> i had hoped it would work once installed
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it does cover build-dep actually
[02:06] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: it's intel graphics i believe
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  it does? i just skimmed it.. and dident see it.
[02:06] <StuckMojo> this was my mom's old laptop, i'm unfamiliar with it
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it's there ;)
[02:07] <StuckMojo> let me boot text mode and check it out
[02:07] <StuckMojo> what's no x but fully up? 3?
[02:07]  * cousteau back to his installed ol' good Jaunty
[02:07] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn, no problem. Currently using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo but not yet working yet
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  seems out of order. :) they should mention that befor you do the ./configure.. but i guess it dosent matter :0
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, if you upgraded you might be using grub1 (legacy) still!
[02:07] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: so?
[02:08] <ottermaton> Does anyone know anything about fixing a a slow resume from suspend? In particular on a Dell Vostro v13
[02:08] <StuckMojo> that still had a prompt for single user
[02:08] <[thor]> ok, i've got a wierd one guys.. Applications dropdown menu is stuck open, entire top panel is inactive and unresponsive. the remaining desktop is working, docky is working.  Which process should i kill to remove the panel?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, it's not shift if you're using grub1
[02:08] <StuckMojo> oh. i upgraded from Karmic
[02:08] <StuckMojo> fresh install of karmic
[02:08] <redvil> need help in mounting using iPod with ubuntu...it doesnt detect the device..how do i go about this?
[02:08] <StuckMojo> since the lucid install cd was locking up, but karmic live cd worked fine
[02:08] <oarion7> [thor], gnome-panel, i beleive
[02:08] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, most of my suspend/hibernate problems come from driver issues.
[02:08] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: do you know what it is for grub1?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !ipod | redvil
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, ESC?  i don't remember, sorry
[02:09] <StuckMojo> i tried esc i think
[02:09] <StuckMojo> shift worked
[02:10] <[thor]> oarion7: thanks for the help good sir, it even re-loaded itself!
[02:10] <systemd0wn> gimmickless_, what happens when you try to connect?
[02:10] <StuckMojo> hmmm...very interesting
[02:10] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, what would you suggest I look at?
[02:10] <StuckMojo> it boots fine using the old kernel from karmic
[02:10] <StuckMojo> i mean x starts and all
[02:11] <StuckMojo> thats...intruiging
[02:12] <StuckMojo> uhhh....
[02:12] <StuckMojo> what takes the place of /etc/inittab now days?
[02:12] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, wow, ya it could be damn near anything. Ok, MY issues all stem from acpi issues for instance I can't dim my screen and things like that. Ok, i would do an lspci and dmesg and comb through
[02:12] <StuckMojo> i want to see what runlevel is no x but fully up
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ubuntu dosent do it that way
[02:12] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, get a list of all your hardware and look up each one individually and its compatibility with linux
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> !runlevels | StuckMojo one more for ya ;)
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  there is a 'text' option to tell the system to not start X and disables the fancy plymouth and other eye candys at boot.
[02:13] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, thankfully people much smarter than us have usually worked out many of these issues, especially with common laptops
[02:13] <reff67> who  -r check the current run level use
[02:14] <rxKaffee> in Lucid, what provides sound drivers? ALSA, or pulse, or something different?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, are you sure a grub setting can change GDM startup?  i though you had to disable GDM separately then the Plymouth stuff.
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> rxKaffee, Pulse is default in Ubuntu - Pulse uses ALSA for lowlevel soundcard stuff BTW
[02:15] <StuckMojo> hmph. this is all new
[02:15] <StuckMojo> damn it
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  the TEXT option makes gdm not load.
[02:15] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, well, I've been searching around and can't find anything really relevant. I even came across a guy who says his vostro v13 resumes in 2.5 seconds.
[02:15] <StuckMojo> this is half of why i bailed on Sid earlier this year
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  not sure how. :) must be in the init scripts checking the boot options
[02:15] <rxKaffee> ZykoticK9: so I need to find an alsa kernel module for my sound card then?
[02:15] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, very cool - will try that right now!
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  go back to linux 1.0 ? :)
[02:15] <StuckMojo> i f*$king hate insserv and such wacky init methods
[02:15] <iflema> !nox | ZykoticK9
[02:15] <wildbat> any one have a pages that explain how to use iptables?
[02:16] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, and how long does that take? Is he using the same OS? 2.5 is pretty damn fast
[02:16] <Guest11331> can someone help me on webkit crashes? any browser that uses webkit browser engine crashes?
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> iflema, thanks!  awesome.
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  upstart seems to work decently well. not very wacky at all.  Compared to the sysv..
[02:16] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, er how long does yours take?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> I still havent found a good 'upstart for dummies' guide yet.
[02:16] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: lenny still uses sysv init
[02:16] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: upstart is different from insserv?
[02:16] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, mine takes about 30 seconds. Same machine, same version (10.04)
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  most of the sysv stuff works with upstart.. but its mainly from upstart 'seeing/doing the right thing' for sysv scripts
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ive never heard of innserv.
[02:17] <brummbaer> Dr_Willis: there's a pretty good guide in one of the recent Ubuntu Users magazines
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> !info insserv
[02:17] <StuckMojo> insserv - Tool to organize boot sequence using LSB init.d script dependencies
[02:17] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, you upgraded to the latest kernel?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  init.d is not used by upstart, /etc/init is.
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> iflema, Dr_Willis AHHH it all becomes clear - text = single user mode, thus the no X starting.
[02:17] <systemd0wn> question, FreeRadius PAM module, looking for a binary download since i'm getting compile errors (64bit 10.04)
[02:17] <StuckMojo> actually, odds are upstart is what debian switched to as well
[02:17] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, yes, I keep up with updates
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  its not really single user..  it dosent auto-log in does it?   I thought single user. dropped to a root shell.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  ive not heard of them switching.. but i think some other disrtos have
[02:18] <StuckMojo> aaaaanyway, so it's just  "text" as a kernel option?
[02:18] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: they definately did in side
[02:18] <StuckMojo> sid
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, actually the switchs are -text or -S or -s or S or s for Single user modes
[02:18] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, ya, man if he has the same OS and hardware but yours is running slower i really have no idea. I would say driver issues but if both of you have default installs i dunno
[02:18] <StuckMojo> and i think they are in squeeze as well
[02:19] <StuckMojo> hmm
[02:19] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i'm still going on documentation, haven't tried it yet.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo got unstuck. :)
[02:20] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, I don't know if his is exactly a default install, but, yes it is puzzling
[02:20] <StuckMojo> yeah they use insserv
[02:20] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, thanks for the suggestions though
[02:20] <StuckMojo> Dr_Willis: for some reason any time i join #debian now, it kicks me off of freenode completely ;)
[02:20] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, no problem. dmesg doesn't have any errors after you come back from suspend?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> StuckMojo:  they hate ubuntu that much? :)
[02:21] <maco> StuckMojo: try the #debian on OFTC? most debian official channels moved there years ao
[02:21] <maco> *ago
[02:21] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, no it doesn't
[02:22] <marcoss> Does anybody here know if there is a software or something to build a data storage server with acces control list on ubuntu ?
[02:22] <ottermaton> systemd0wn, I'm thinking it might have something to do with my wireless driver which is flaky. Actually, I'm going to experiment with some things
[02:22] <Guest11331> anyone have them work succesfully?
[02:23] <StuckMojo> brb, need a smoke
[02:23] <systemd0wn> ottermaton, cool if i think of anything else i'll hit you up
[02:23] <StuckMojo> maco: the one here is still mega-active
[02:23] <sklav> can someone explain why when i modify nsswitch.conf on ubuntu i can ping google.com with less than 20 ms but if i leave the default that shipped with ubuntu 10.04 ping takes forever to return results?
[02:23] <StuckMojo> ok, well it's not the kernel itself, because it boots text just fine
[02:23] <Wiesshund> has anyone built the ati 10.7 catalyst drivers?
[02:24]  * StuckMojo heads off for a smoke
[02:24] <Guest11331> ok nevermind
[02:24] <sklav> I can't be the only one seeing the slow response on cmd line ping's in ubuntu 10.04 btw this is tested in multiple locations
[02:25] <slinker1> hmmm apparently robin has the same issue :)
[02:26] <sklav> slinker1, you refering to my question
[02:26] <Guest11331> so noone has issues with webkit engine in web browsers???????????
[02:26] <slinker1> just remarking that he pinged out right after your statement
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  not that ive seen.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  you cheked the forums and bug reports?
[02:27] <gimmickless_> systemd0wn: -bash /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: Permission denied
[02:27] <gimmickless_> sorry for the delay. dinner.
[02:28] <Guest11331> Dr_Willis: yes, and i havent found a solution
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  what was the exact command you used?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest11331:  but others mention an issue?  what sort of 'issue' ?
[02:28] <Guest11331> crashes on youtube videos, and javascript heavy sites
[02:28] <sklav> slinker1, try pinging google.com
[02:28] <gimmickless_> sudo wpa_passphrase [Name] [password] > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:28] <sklav> and then ping the ip equivalent
[02:29] <sklav> you will see what i mean
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  2hen using > and sudo,. there can be problems.. the > does not get the sudo rights.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  do it from a root shell 'sudo -s'
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  or -->  echo "foo" | sudo tee /root/somefile
[02:30] <tktiddle> I Im trying to install Ubuntu on the primiary HD the secondary is just a data disk.  I just reformatted the primary HD using MBR and did a fresh install of ubuntu to the entire drive.  On boot I get 'BOOTMGR is missing' and have to use a bootdisk to load ubuntu.  I've had this problem for an age now can anyone help me fix it?
[02:30] <sklav> slinker1, did you try ?
[02:31] <filipe> hi, someone can help me? i have a notebook dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04 and i don't give start my wlan... don't working ...
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> tktiddle:  'reformated the HD using MBR' WHats MBR?  You sure the bios is set to boot the proper HD?
[02:31] <gimmickless_> Dr_Willis: tried sudo -s
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> gimmickless_:  see some background info at -> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[02:31] <filipe> hi, someone can help me? i have a notebook dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04 and i don't give start my wlan... don't working ...
[02:32] <ndxtg> this is not a right place to ask but I have no idea where to ask: does {2}nict mean "nnict" or "nictnict" in reg_expr?
[02:32] <StealFalcon> hi i need help
[02:32] <welinux> !зштп
[02:32] <welinux> !ping
[02:32] <hoosiers_83> looking for a Rhythmbox alternative.  the version via synaptic is outdated and crashes when i adjust the volume, the recent stable release (0.13) also is buggy and has to re-import my music library on every startup
[02:33] <filipe> please, i can't work my wireless in the dell vostro 1000 with ubuntu 10.04
[02:33] <StealFalcon> i aacadentily installed kde and xfce how do i delete them?
[02:33] <tktiddle> Dr_Willis: bios is set correct, I used the disk format utility to format the drive and it gives you a number of options when formatting like apple format, 'mbr'
[02:33] <hoosiers_83> needs to work with my sandisk fuze also
[02:33] <StealFalcon> on my ubuntu
[02:33] <tktiddle> I chose MBR
[02:33] <gimmickless_> hoosiers_83: try Audacios
[02:33] <gimmickless_> *Audacious
[02:33] <StealFalcon> anyone?
[02:33] <epinky> StealFalcon: use Synaptic
[02:33] <filipe> how can i use it?
[02:33] <gimmickless_> It's got the same look and feel of Winamp
[02:33] <sklav> mbr probably wiped out the Master boot record
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  repeats the   thing exactly 2 times.. the way i am reading this site --<  http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
[02:34] <Guest11331> StealFalcon: trey this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome, this has worked for me, just copy the code and paste in terminal, ive done it multiple times
[02:34] <tktiddle> sklav: I then did a fresh install of ubuntu, How can I fix the MBR?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> tktiddle:  disk format utility? wait a moment - you on an APPLE ?
[02:34] <sklav>  think he is
[02:34] <Suit_Of_Sables> hey gang! running a live CD on my old PPC mac. The wiki says you can get wireless working with the bcm43xx-fwcutter package installed. but a reboot is required. obviously this is no good for me on a live CD and I can't install due to a damaged HDD. any suggestions?
[02:34] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: so is {2}nict = "nictnict" or "nnict"?
[02:34] <marcoss> Does anybody here know if there is a software or something to build a data storage server with acces control list on ubuntu ?
[02:34] <tktiddle> Dr_Willis: its amd64 ubuntu
[02:34] <Suit_Of_Sables> besides smashing the piece of junk with a hammer?
[02:35] <tktiddle> not apple
[02:35] <Tecna> "Failed to retrieve share list from server" Somebody please help me figure out what's wrong with my samba server?    No access denied. But no ping either.
[02:36] <marcoss> epinky, yes but is there a graphical software or something else?
[02:36] <StealFalcon> Guset11331 pm
[02:36] <epinky> marcoss: SWAT?
[02:37] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: ok so ab{2} will match "abab" or "abb" ?
[02:37] <epinky> !samba| marcoss
[02:37] <sklav> Tecna, maybe using /dev as a share is a bad idea
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i would think its abab
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  but i cant find a good exmple page that shows it that way
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  try it and see
[02:37] <sklav> since /dev is part of the filesystem and used by the kernel and devices
[02:38] <tktiddle> sklav: ok think I may have tried this before, giving it another shot, Im just single booting ubuntu
[02:38] <trism> ndxtg: I believe it would be abb in general, unless you grouped ab, like (ab){3} (depending on the regex language)
[02:38] <sklav> maybe change /dev to /home/dev and share with proper permissions that folder
[02:38] <Tecna> sklav: It's a private network with a tight security.  I have my reasons for sharing /dev
[02:38] <sklav> tktiddle, how many hdd in your pc?
[02:38] <tktiddle> 2
[02:39] <ndxtg> ok thanks Dr_Willis and trism
[02:39] <sklav> dual booting?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:   yea. the () may be needed - thers sites to test out/play with the things.   http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/regex.htm#submatches
[02:39] <ns5> delalloc, nodelalloc, which one of these two is used by default in ext4 filesystem?
[02:39] <tktiddle> sklav: 1st ubuntu, 2nd data
[02:39] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  also watch out for various specific 'defaults' that some programs use in their regexp engines..
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  ie: grep may differe slightly then perl in some area
[02:39] <sklav> tktiddle, can you unhook the sata cable from the data drive?
[02:40] <Renovatio> hey has anyone worked with making softwares for ebay and knows how to make accounts and etc?
[02:40] <sklav> if your jumpers are not set correctly in the case of ide aka cable select
[02:40] <claybustr> my wife clicked on a facebook virus. no worries, right, it's ubuntu 9.04. She's claiming its been sending pm's to her friends now.  All the usual suspects look ok, but I'm wondering about security of firefox & its plugins. Are there any recent attack vectors I should be checking?
[02:40] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:40] <sklav> the drives get matched where cable is connected it decided who is master or slave
[02:40] <filipe> i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:40] <sklav> if sata then you just removed a possible conflict if you motherboard is not behaving
[02:41] <marcoss> epinky, what is swat ?
[02:41] <Renovatio> if anyone can do that coding, we can make millions easily
[02:41] <filipe> @ALL i need from help, i have a dell vostro 1000 and my wireless don't work, help please!
[02:41] <sklav> filipe, what is your wireless card?
[02:41] <SimonSayez> ndiswrapper
[02:42] <filipe> how can i see it?
[02:42] <sklav> is it intel?
[02:42] <Tecna> filipe: lspci
[02:42] <mbeierl> how do I change the iTunes backup location in gtkpod?  If I change it in the UI and click apply, then exit and restart gtkpod, it's back to its old location.  If I delete the repo and recreate it, it goes back to its old location.
[02:42] <SimonSayez> no its a broadcom
[02:42] <filipe> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[02:42] <tktiddle> sklav: yes! works without second disk
[02:42] <SimonSayez> told yah
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  the #perl channel  and #pytho channel may point you do some good sites to play with regrexps also.
[02:43] <filipe> sklav 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[02:43] <kochii> I dreamt I was ubuntu
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> oops #python
[02:43] <sklav> tktiddle, i read somewhere grub2 had issue with installing boot code when 2 drives are present
[02:43] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: yea Im currently on the php channel
[02:44] <Renovatio> hullo
[02:44] <Renovatio> anyone
[02:44] <mbeierl> where does gtkpod save its info if not in .gtkpod subdir?!?
[02:44] <SimonSayez> filipe, Download the Dell Ubuntu Linux iso from here and install it and then upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/building-base-ubuntu-factory-iso.aspx
[02:44] <ndxtg> filipe: if its laptop, remember to switch on the wireless button (this sounds silly but yea, just check)
[02:45] <filipe> yep, its a laptop but i tru FN+F2 but don't work
[02:45] <Frankiitaa> hey guys dont u have problems whit ur dvd drives in ubuntu 10.04?
[02:45] <psycho789> what are the benefits of using ubuntu
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  an issue with some of the web site 'regexp' builder/test urls can be they are using javascript's regrexp so can be quirky.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  no. :)
[02:45] <sklav> filipe, try this i just googled your card and this is what i found http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/ubuntu-10-04-and-broadcom-bcm43xx-wireless/
[02:45] <SimonSayez> filipe, Do you know to burn an iso ?
[02:46] <ndxtg> filipe: i meant the switch button along the laptop side, not the key combination
[02:46] <Frankiitaa> i have tested on many pc and all shown problems
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  perhaps state the problem.
[02:46] <Tecna> SimonSayez: I would think dell would have a separate driverset rather than making you install the complete OS, like windows. >.>
[02:46] <sklav> anyways back to why i came here
[02:46] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis what do u mean
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  you have said you have a problem..  thats very  Vague....
[02:47] <sklav> anybody try pinging from a command line and notice some serious lag in name ressolution
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  i use my DVD drives just find under Ubuntu.
[02:47] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: i mainly use egrep and /usr/share/words to test reg_expr
[02:47] <SimonSayez> Tecna, I have a Dell laptop and I always keep the Dell Version of Ubuntu Linux because the wifi drivers are built into that live disk
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  yea. egrep can be a little different from grep/perl/python. somthing to watch out for.
[02:48] <Frankiitaa> all my dvd drives have problems u can see it
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  the books i have made that point over and over and over.
[02:48] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: what is the book name again? :)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  cant see what?  You cant play movies?  they shoot flames out of the slot?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  one by O'reaily. got it years ago
[02:49] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: reg_expr for dummies? :D
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i avoide books that have dummies in the title.
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  those are not the O;reialy  books. :) theirs have the woodgraving prints on them normally
[02:49] <psycho789> is ubuntu better than w7? why?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  Yes.. its free.. next question...
[02:50] <ndxtg> Dr_Willis: I've seen like a hundred books of the same yellow template with dummies on though :D
[02:50] <kochii> ok
[02:50] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis i just can use the dvd drive if the disk is inside when i turn on the pc once time i try to change the disk it become uselle until next reboot whit the next cd inside
[02:50] <red2kic> psycho789: Why should you pay for oxygen? :(
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> ndxtg:  i dont even buy those if they are ont eh bargin bins.
[02:50] <ndxtg> *the word dummies
[02:50] <Frankiitaa> and i have 7 pc
[02:50] <psycho789> other than it's free. because thats pretty horrible logic im talking about features and stuff. i know nothing about linux
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Frankiitaa:  you are right clicking on the disk on the desktop and using the 'eject' menu item?
[02:51] <kochii> hi all, is it suggestable that I do dual boot xp/ubuntu or it will make computer unstable
[02:51] <Frankiitaa> i have try all ways
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  theres numerous sites that debate windows vs linux.
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> Will dual-band wireless offer any advantages on a small network with 2-5 clients?
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> err, I'll ask #offtopic nv
[02:51] <ndxtg> In graphics term: Ubuntu + Compiz is better than Win 7, equivalent to Mac
[02:51] <R3cur51v3> nvm
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> psycho789:  its main feature is 'its not windows' :)  it dosent have teh same windows problems.. it has its own.
[02:51] <jrib> kochii: if you need xp, sure.  It will not make your computer "unstable"
[02:51] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: You're doing it wrong.  You can't eject a CD unless you've made sure that it's no longer in use by programs and has been unmounted.
[02:52] <epinky> dual band wireless ?:o
[02:52] <SimonSayez> ndxtg, Also you can do a lot more programming stuff with Linux than on Windows 7
[02:52] <Paddy_NI> Hey there I am looking for a nice simple netbook email client that my mother could use on a netbook, I have already tried anjal but sadly it will not start.. so short of getting to the root of the anjal problem are there any other recommended email clients preferably with indicator-applet support that are suited to a netbook?
[02:52] <kochii> jrib: whats a good dual boot program ?
[02:53] <jrib> kochii: huh?
[02:53] <Tecna> psycho789: Ubuntu, like other distributions of linux, give you complete control over your system.
[02:53] <ndxtg> grub?
[02:53] <jrib> !dual | kochii
[02:53] <Frankiitaa> tecna: how i have to do it ?
[02:53] <jrib> !dualboot | kochii
[02:53] <kochii> jrib: ndxtg: yea is grup good ?
[02:53] <jrib> kochii: yes, you want to use grub...
[02:53] <SimonSayez> the Ubuntu Linux environment is good for Java and Android programming too
[02:54] <kochii> jrib: oh ok...heard a while ago (around 4 years) about ppl complaining about it
[02:54] <neil_ubuntu> !ubottu
[02:54] <ndxtg> there is no dualboot program that enables you to "edit-on-air" the menu item of the boot menu like grub
[02:54] <SimonSayez> grub2 is a pain in the ass they could have simplified it a little better
[02:54] <kochii> tnx jrib:
[02:54] <ndxtg> <---- (failed sentence)
[02:54] <psycho789> thanks i think im going to go ahead and put ubuntu on my old dell just to try it out
[02:55] <StealFalcon> lol1
[02:55] <StealFalcon> !
[02:55] <StealFalcon> pls
[02:55] <kochii> where you going to get drivers psycho789
[02:55] <StealFalcon> anyone!
[02:55] <kochii> i have a lenovo and it doest provide linux drivers
[02:55] <KE1HA> psycho789, check the chipset, if it's an intel i8xx series, there's work around for install & boot. Just FYI.
[02:55] <SimonSayez> How old is your Dell machine ?
[02:55] <welinux> !ubottu
[02:56] <psycho789> 2004
[02:56] <KE1HA> Yeah, check the chip-set.
[02:56] <kochii> next laptop i get is definetly a ubuntu...dont have to worry about drivers and bs
[02:56] <kochii> i mean an ubuntu built on it
[02:56] <StealFalcon> pls can anyone help i need to roll back all system changes by 30 minutes!
[02:56] <kochii> concrete
[02:56] <StealFalcon> pls can anyone help i need to roll back all system changes by 30 minutes!
[02:56] <SimonSayez> You can get the Dell Ubuntu Version of Linux here: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/w/linux/building-base-ubuntu-factory-iso.aspx
[02:56] <ndxtg> lol since when ubuntu sell laptops?
[02:56] <lucas-arg> hello, i have an hp dv6 laptop, and when im restarting it or powering it off i hear a cracking sound or something through the speakers... its no bad but its really enoyin and cant find any tweak for this, if there is any sugestion please give me one, thanks
[02:56] <SimonSayez> I would burn the iso
[02:56] <epinky> StealFalcon: could you define dual band wireless?, my MW knowledge is not that advanced :)
[02:56] <kochii> cool...tnx SimonSayez
[02:57] <Barnabas> kochii, the Lenovos are to my experience some of the best for ubuntu (linux)
[02:57] <Barnabas> good driver support
[02:57] <StealFalcon> i installed all interfaces for ubuntu it screwed the hekk up my pc
[02:57] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Close programs that are accessing the disc(if something says to eject your disc, it probably isn't accessing it).  This is usually enough to make it work, but sometimes you need to right-click the disc in nautilus to unmount and/or eject.  You should also man umount and man eject for information about doing this manually, and possibly using the force option if needed.
[02:57] <StealFalcon> i need to roll back my whole sys by 30 mins
[02:58] <ndxtg> dual Lan is possible, but dual Wirelss ... no idea
[02:58] <kochii> I have a friends father who bought a ubuntu laptop...he wants windows xp on it though...i could have traded mine with him if my #7 key was not broken
[02:58] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: what do you mean by you installed all interfaces?
[02:58] <savid> Hi, every time I VNC into my desktop,   I get the screen loaded, but it never updates.  (e.g., I move a window, but nothing happens through vnc).  I've confirmed that my keyboard and mouse movements are making it through, I'm just not getting screen updates. Any ideas what might cause this?
[02:58] <kochii> Barnabas: where do you get drivers for them though ?
[02:58] <StealFalcon> kde xfce
[02:58] <Barnabas> kochii, with the kernel
[02:58] <StealFalcon> i allready have gnome
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: me no understand
[02:59] <Barnabas> so they are there as a part of ubuntu
[02:59] <jrib> !away > radar3d
[02:59] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[02:59] <Barnabas> kochii, you dont need to "get" them
[02:59] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: you will have to remove KDE and then follow the link to also remove xfce
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: so my hotkeys, volume etc work ?
[02:59] <Barnabas> kochii, they are part of your os
[02:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:59] <kochii> Barnabas: really ?
[02:59] <StealFalcon> ok
[03:00] <StealFalcon> so just chage the command to fit xfce?
[03:00] <kochii> Barnabas: so ubuntu comes loaded with the drivers for all those devices from different manufacturers ?
[03:00] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: at the bottom of the page there is a link to remove xfce
[03:00] <Barnabas> kochii, on my last Lenovo (ibm) all buttons worked as designed
[03:00] <welinux> StealFalcon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:00] <StealFalcon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:01] <kochii> Barnabas: or my concept of device is just totally wrong?
[03:01] <hiexpo> hmm
[03:01] <Frankiitaa> tecna: how do i have to take out de dvd ?
[03:01] <savid> oh, nm -- had to disable compiz
[03:01] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome this link is better
[03:01] <SimonSayez> The Dell Ubunto Linux isos are here I gave the wrong link sorry http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/
[03:01] <kochii> Barnabas: what lendovo did you have ?
[03:01] <Barnabas> kochii, no you are just used to the windows approach where you have to download drivers from a multitude of sources
[03:01] <Guest11331> StealFalcon: go to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[03:01] <xangua> StealFalcon: synaptic, apt, aptitude, software center¿
[03:01] <IdleOne> StealFalcon: close Synaptic and or Software Center
[03:01] <welinux> StealFalcon: simple problem - close synaptic or close terminal aniway
[03:02] <SimonSayez> Burn the Dell Ubuntu Iso and see if the old drivers are there for your old Dell Machine they probably are
[03:02] <Barnabas> t61 - its an older model today
[03:02] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: once the dvd has been unmounted, you should be able to just press the eject button on your drive.
[03:02] <kochii> Barnabas: wow thats amazing man
[03:03] <StuckMojo> so...starting gdm hard locks the system
[03:03] <StealFalcon> ty
[03:03] <Barnabas> kochii, in general you can define your buttons to do what you want with them - also the multimedia ones
[03:03] <kochii> Barnabas:I think Im very close to knocking xp off my laptop
[03:03] <Barnabas> for all pcs
[03:03] <StuckMojo> i booted into text mode then sshed in and started gdm by hand
[03:03] <StuckMojo> and it almost immediately locked
[03:03] <Barnabas> but it is a bit technical
[03:03] <Frankiitaa> tecna: so i cant just take out the dvd like i used to do in windows
[03:03] <Frankiitaa> ?
[03:04] <psycho789> the chipset on my dell is Intel 855PM Chipset would it be hard to install
[03:04] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Tell me what you're doing before trying to eject.
[03:04] <Barnabas> kochii, XP is getting older - so yes you should probably look at ubuntu or perhaps win7
[03:04] <Barnabas> kochii, support for XP is also about to be closed down
[03:05] <Barnabas> kochii, stay away from Vista :-)
[03:05] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Nope just burn an old Dell Ubuntu iso from here http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/
[03:05] <SimonSayez> psycho789, then upgrade
[03:05] <psycho789> alright thanks
[03:05] <kochii> Barnabas: probably an obvious question but just want to confirm to get some more confidence haha...And ubuntu has features for power use like conserving battery by lowering cpu speed etc ?
[03:05] <pradeep> not a fan of windows but xp is about the best windows os
[03:05] <knoppies> kochii, yes
[03:05] <kochii> Barnabas: yea vista is shitte
[03:06] <Guest88579> or windows 7, but i still rarely use it
[03:06] <welinux> pradeep: may be - but it is offtopic
[03:06] <knoppies> kochii, you can even force the CPU speed stepping to sit at the speed you want it to.
[03:06] <pepper_haze> Man, I feel better now
[03:06] <IdleOne> !language | kochii
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, yes there is a daemon kalled powernod you can install to throttle the cpu
[03:06] <kochii> I wouldnt want to touch any newer shites the push from seattle
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, but most BIOS today can do the same
[03:06] <pradeep> welinux, YUP IT IS REALLY IRRELEVANT
[03:06] <h00k> kochii: please watch the language
[03:06] <kochii> ooops...sorry...apologies
[03:06] <Barnabas> kochii, drop to reduced cpu speed when on battery
[03:06] <xangua> why not just recomend the new official ubuntu lucid to psycho, SimonSayez ¿¿
[03:07] <StuckMojo> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:07] <psycho789> SimonSez, which of those iso files do i burn?
[03:07] <StuckMojo> hmmm
[03:07] <SimonSayez> psycho789, this one ubuntu-9.04-dell_A01.iso 05-Oct-2009
[03:07] <kochii> Barnabas: cool...thanks yo
[03:07] <hiexpo> hmm
[03:07] <psycho789> thank you
[03:08] <ShapeShifter499> is there a download manager for package managers(like synaptic) ?
[03:08] <SimonSayez> xangua, because the Dell Ubuntu Linux live disk has wifi drivers pre installed
[03:08] <pradeep> my screen flickers alot any clues
[03:08] <n-iCe> hi I did a clean ubuntu 10.04 install, but the clock is one hour delayed, any suggestions? I already set it, and changes in every boot.
[03:08] <StuckMojo> ok, so starting X kills it
[03:08] <ShapeShifter499> so I can fully use my ISP's internet speed
[03:08] <StuckMojo> so it's not gdm specifically. which is no surprise
[03:08] <SimonSayez> xangua, He can always upgrade to 10.04 later on
[03:08] <hiexpo> 9.10
[03:08] <welinux> pradeep: I'm trying to understand but maybe your sentence in another way What's wrong
[03:08] <xangua> from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 ¿¿ :S
[03:08] <kochii> alright...gnight all
[03:09] <SimonSayez> xangua, right
[03:09] <Tecna> n-iCe: sounds like your clock is being set with a NTP server and your location is set wrong.
[03:09] <xangua> SimonSayez: that sucks
[03:09] <n-iCe> Tecna: what to do
[03:09] <StuckMojo> no Xorg.0.log is writeen
[03:09] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, you can only utilize your total bandwith if the host you are downloading from serve at equal or higher speed than that
[03:09] <SimonSayez> xangua, yeah but the Dell Ubuntu Linux Live disk has wifi drivers
[03:10] <Tecna> n-iCe: I suggest checking your location in the clock settings.   also check daylight savings options.
[03:10] <xangua> psycho789: better try first the ubuntu lucid live cd
[03:10] <pradeep> welinux, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/587935?comments=all
[03:10] <ShapeShifter499> Barnabas: you know like download multiple chunks of one file so it downloads faster..
[03:10] <pradeep> that is the issue
[03:10] <pradeep> i have
[03:10] <n-iCe> thanks
[03:11] <SimonSayez> xangua, the Dell Ubuntu Linux Live iso will have wifi drivers out of the box
[03:11] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, yes but the host you are dl'ing from still has a max speed determinded by its uplink speed
[03:11] <jeremie> Bonjou
[03:11] <SimonSayez> xangua, otherwise he would have to plug an ethernet cable into his machine
[03:11] <jeremie> Bonjour**
[03:11] <jeremie> exit
[03:11] <Frankiitaa> tecna i just tested it just inserting a disk after that i eject it and when i put another disk inside it dont works
[03:12] <xangua> SimonSayez: what wifi driver¿¿ then why not better install the oficial ubuntu ang get the drivers from the dell ubuntu cd¿¿
[03:12] <Tecna> Frankiitaa: Are you saying that you were able to eject the first disc, but not the second?
[03:13] <SimonSayez> xangua, when he puts in the Dell Ubuntu Live disk into his machine it should detect his wifi card, 10.0.4 most likely wont
[03:13] <antonio_> I'm going nuts..trying to transfer some files from my old lappy that is pretty muched effed up...
[03:13] <pradeep> welinux,  cant hear from you again
[03:13] <Barnabas> SimonSayez, some of the newer dell wifi nics could not yet supported by the linux kernel
[03:14] <xangua> SimonSayez: that's what i said, he can JUST get the drivers from the dell ubuntu cd
[03:14] <welinux> pradeep: gotcha thanks I'm trying to participate  because it is the best place to understand ubuntu in live mode from all over the world
[03:14] <antonio_> I can't burn a dvd...and I can't get files onto either flash drive (error reading from file: input/output error)
[03:14]  * Wiesshund does the happy dance, catalyst 10.7 ubuntu specific build --=success=--
[03:14] <Barnabas> SimonSayez, try an lspci to list the devices on the pc
[03:14] <antonio_> is there any kind of quick fix to get around this?
[03:14] <SimonSayez> antonio_, you can buy a USB enclosure for your hardrive take your hard drive out your machine and hook it up to your current pc via usb
[03:14] <Tecna> antonio_: Transfer across the network.
[03:15] <Wiesshund> antonio_ you trying to install ubuntu?
[03:15] <antonio_> wiesshund: already installed on this machine...
[03:15] <Frankiitaa> tecna i be able to eject the discs, but i can use my dvd drive once i have eject the first, it dont read any disc at all
[03:15] <psycho789> my 2004 dell has no wireless anyway
[03:15] <antonio_> tecna: using open ssh?  I've got 3.2 gigs to transfer
[03:15] <psycho789> so should i just install the other verison
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, its not a laptop ?
[03:16] <Wiesshund> antonio_ sorry i thought maybe you sere trying to do a driveless install. thats what i get for joining the channel late :)
[03:16] <psycho789> it is a laptop
[03:16] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: is that driver suppose to be good for ATI Radeon Cards?
[03:16] <psycho789> it has no wireless drivers or anything
[03:16] <psycho789> its too old i guess
[03:16] <Tecna> antonio_: a few gigs shouldn't take very long to copy using a samba share.
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Does it have a wifi card ?
[03:16] <psycho789> no
[03:16] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 10.7? yea
[03:16] <psycho789> i would have to buy a wifi usb or something
[03:16] <SimonSayez> psycho789, then you might as well download the new ubuntu and install it
[03:17] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Do you have a PCMCIA slot on your laptop
[03:17] <Tecna> antonio_: unfortunately, I can't help with setting that up, because I'm here looking for help with that.
[03:17] <antonio_> tecna: how long would moving over 3 gigs take across a network?
[03:17] <psycho789> no
[03:17] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: I'm using the ones from xorg edgers PPA and there are a few native linux games that are fing up
[03:17] <SimonSayez> psycho789, type the model of your 2004 dell laptop please
[03:18] <Tecna> antonio_: that depends on the machines involved, but that usually would take me at most 15 minutes.
[03:18] <psycho789> wait acutally yes i do
[03:18] <psycho789> sorry
[03:18] <psycho789> but its dell latiude d600
[03:18] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 10.7 = linux 8.75.5 i used the official package from ati and built it
[03:18] <psycho789> latitude*
[03:19] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: how would I switch to those drivers?
[03:19] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 i didnt try any of the 3rd party builds
[03:20] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: before (when switching) I totally messed my system up cuz I didn't switch divers correctly, I had to reinstall
[03:20] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:20] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Is this your Dell Machine http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/en/ug/index.htm
[03:20] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 you can download them from www.ati.com and make the build, ive got the packages i made but i dont know it they wind up being machine specific when built or not
[03:20] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, I have good experience with the fglrx drivers on Radeon 9700 - my old pc
[03:21] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 yea when switching, deactivate then mark old driver for total removal. they forget to tell you that in the docs
[03:21] <psycho789> simon: yes thats it
[03:21] <ndxtg> does anyone know what version of Catalyst for Radeon Mobility X1600?
[03:21] <ndxtg> I need to run OpenGL the fglrx doesnt work weel
[03:21] <SimonSayez> psycho789, you should have a PCMCIA slot on that machine
[03:21] <psycho789> yeah sorry i corrected myself but you missed it
[03:22] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:22] <SimonSayez> psycho789, I see it here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd600/en/ug/pccards.htm#wp1104260
[03:22] <Tecna> Wiesshund: when compiling from source, it's best to do it again on each system, unless you're sure the other system has the same dependencies and libraries
[03:22] <Wiesshund> Tecna yea thats what im thinking as well
[03:23] <psycho789> yeah its there
[03:23] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: so should I mark all xorg drivers for full removal ?
[03:23] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 also not noted is you wind up having to manualy remove your /urs/shate/ati directory
[03:23] <psycho789> simon: i thought it did not have one but i was wrong
[03:23] <SimonSayez> psycho789, you need something like this for wifi access from that Dell Machine http://imagine41.com/orinoco-gold-11-mbit-s-wireless-pcmcia-slot-wifi-card.html?___store=english_11271901265
[03:23] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 yes if you want to build and switch drivers you have to, but dont reboot until new drivers are built and installed
[03:24] <Frankiitaa> dr_willis: i just can use my dvd drive just if i turn of the pc with the disc that i want to use inside, if i change the disk i can use my dvd drive to next reboot.
[03:24] <psycho789> thank you
[03:24] <Barnabas> ShapeShifter499, or make an xorg.conf that utilizes the driver you select
[03:24] <SimonSayez> psycho789, Orinoco PCMCIA cards work well in Linux
[03:24] <antonio_> is there any linux command/package to temporarily "fix" a drive..just so that I can actually move these dang files?
[03:25] <SimonSayez> psycho789, That will give you wifi access
[03:25] <ShapeShifter499> Barnabas: never messed with the xorg.conf file
[03:25] <psycho789> ok
[03:25] <Tecna> antonio_: what do you mean by "fix"?  What's wrong with it?
[03:25] <Wiesshund> Barnabas 10.04 doesnt have one by default
[03:25] <psycho789> i will check those out
[03:25] <Barnabas> Wiesshund, no but you are free to make one
[03:26] <antonio_> tecna: If I try copying files from .mozilla-thunderbird to a flash drive, burn them to a dvd, etc.  I get a input/output error
[03:26] <Tecna> antonio_: what filesystem is it?
[03:27] <antonio_> would that matter?  considering I can't even burn them, its more than likely not anything to do with the filesystem...
[03:28] <Frankiitaa> i got this problem do u know somethin about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468035
[03:28] <Wiesshund> antonio_ i missed the beginning. you having a drive failing or something?
[03:28] <ProfOak> Would any of you know where I would go about a question regarding unetbootin and syslinux.cfg editing?
[03:28] <antonio_> yeah basical,ly wiesshund:
[03:28] <Tecna> antonio_: if you're getting i/o errors from that drive, you need to check the filesystem for errors, and that's done differently on some filesystems
[03:28] <sacul_> hello
[03:29] <sosaited> I am in need of some quick and really needed help. I have been trying to install Lucid on my Karmic + XP system for the last 18 hours, and every method I have tried gives one or another error. I first tried with direct boot of ISO from grub. that eventually gave error of sort can't unmount /iso... Then I tried UnetBootin HDD method, that gave "Unable to mount medium for live.....". Then I tried UnetBootin USB, that just stuck on the purple screen for li
[03:29] <sosaited> ke 15 minutes. Then I burned two cds, One didnt boot at all, second gave me a "error reading boot cd"
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> Wiesshund: ok I've downloaded the drivers from the ATI page, but should I remove the xorg stuff before or after running the installer?
[03:29] <antonio_> also on a side note, a minute ago I logged into failsafe gnome...now I can't select my normal login
[03:29] <Wiesshund> antonio_ what filesystem is the drive?
[03:29] <antonio_> whoops..fixed failsafe gnome
[03:29] <duke_> hello how i compile code cpp to asm using nasm
[03:29] <Wiesshund> ShapeShifter499 Yes, or i blieve you will find the build fail due to clashing libs
[03:29] <ProfOak> sosaited: Have you tried the wubi installer?
[03:29] <antonio_> how can I tell what the fs is?
[03:30] <sosaited> And I have a "thing" with myself to not eat anything until I install this, so its kinda of an "underweight guy becoming really underweight" :)
[03:30] <antonio_> wiseshund: and tecna: is there a linux command /term command to discover what the filesystem is?
[03:30] <sosaited> Prof0ak: No. I am trying everything from my Karmic.
[03:30] <Tecna> antonio_: mount (with no args/options)
[03:30] <ProfOak> antonio_: sudo fdisk -l
[03:30] <Wiesshund> antonio_ sudo fdisk -l
[03:31] <lovinglinux> What is happening with the forums?
[03:31] <Tecna> I like how there are a bunch of ways to do everything
[03:31] <antonio_> /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440 wiseshund: prof0ak: and tecna:
[03:31] <duke_> you guys never user nasm?
[03:31] <duke_> or gcc
[03:32] <Taev> hey guys I may have deleted some files I shouldn't have during a Clam AV scan and now Apache won't start
[03:32] <Taev> apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:32] <IdleOne> duke_: you getting any specific errors?
[03:32] <ProfOak> antonio_: You're not able to use sudo?
[03:32] <FabParma> duke_: i just used 2 mins a go
[03:32] <SimonSayez> duke: Yes NASM is for hardcore assembly language programming
[03:32] <Taev> i reinstalled libapache2-mod-python
[03:32] <Taev> but i keep getting the same error
[03:32] <antonio_> guess not...
[03:33] <hunahpu> Taev: the mython mod file has a different name, check your apache mods directory to get it and change it
[03:33] <Tecna> antonio_: ProfOak: inability to sudo could really screw you.
[03:33] <sosaited> For the love of Linux, someone please read my cry
[03:33] <Taev> huh. why would it have a different name?
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, sounds like you need to boot single user mode then change the permission on /etc/sudoers
[03:33] <duke_> no withougt joke i really forget the line nasm -a bla.cpp
[03:33] <Taev> where would the apache mods directory be?
[03:33] <antonio_> so what in the heck can I do...I NEED to backup these files really bad
[03:33] <duke_> gets me tons of errors
[03:33] <hunahpu> Taev: the one you install via ubuntu repos has a different name, check your /etc/apache2/mods-available directory
[03:33] <Tecna> antonio_: are you using a livecd?
[03:34] <Taev> in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/?
[03:34] <Taev> ok
[03:34] <antonio_> zykotick9: can I use "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[03:34] <StuckMojo> placing i915.modeset=1 on the boot line in grub does work.
[03:34] <StuckMojo> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[03:34] <antonio_> tecna: no I am not
[03:34] <StuckMojo> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/554835
[03:34] <Tecna> antonio_: also, do you have or can you make one?
[03:34] <SimonSayez> duke_, Why not try here type /join #nasm
[03:34] <antonio_> I do have one...
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> antonio_, single user mode give you root access - then you you'll be able to use chmod - without requiring sudo
[03:34] <Barnabas> antonio_, the first thing you must do is backup .. now
[03:34] <hunahpu> Taev: first check in mods-available, after that check the mods-enabled if it is not in the enabled one, just create a symbolic link (wiht ln -s)
[03:34] <Tecna> antonio_: can you make one
[03:34] <Barnabas> antonio_, dump your device
[03:35] <antonio_> barnabas: thats what I am trying to do...
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, work on that
[03:35] <Taev> mod-python.load
[03:35] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:35] <roaddhogg> .
[03:35] <ProfOak> Hey is there something wrong with the ubuntu forums? I can't log in...
[03:35] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: figured it out, if you saw
[03:35] <duke_> error list : http://pastebin.com/duxkHRzf
[03:35] <antonio_> I was just thinking...can I use a livecd to backup everything from my failing hd to my ext 500 gig hd?
[03:35] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: well...more like, found a solution
[03:35] <SimonSayez> duke go here type: /join #nasm and matland will help you with your NASM problem
[03:35] <StuckMojo> it was KMS
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, dd if=/dev/<device> of=/path/to/file
[03:35] <Tecna> antonio_: That what I'm trying to tell you!
[03:35] <Barnabas> antonio_, this will take a while
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, nice work!  glad you got it fixed.
[03:35] <antonio_> thanks tecna: ;) firing up the cd :D
[03:35] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so in available
[03:36] <Taev> they are both the same
[03:36] <sosaited> How can I fix "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when trying to install Ubuntu Lucid (from Karmic) with UnetBootin's HDD option?
[03:36] <Wiesshund> Tecna <facepalm> lol
[03:36] <antonio_> barnabas: whats that do?
[03:36] <roaddhogg> is the ubuntu installed with wubi any different than normal install of ubuntu?
[03:36] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: yeah me too
[03:36] <Barnabas> antonio_, it will dump the erraneous device to a file
[03:36] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, yes
[03:37] <Taev> and in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so is there
[03:37] <Taev> so everything is correct
[03:37] <roaddhogg> how so
[03:37] <StuckMojo> ZykoticK9: to upgrade to grub2: install grub-pc ?
[03:37] <Barnabas> antonio_, there must be space on the target device to fit of cause
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> roaddhogg, don't use WUBI unless you have too (it makes Ubuntu dependent on Windows - not really a great situation)
[03:37] <roaddhogg> ok
[03:37] <Barnabas> antonio_, that will make a raw dump of what you got right now
[03:37] <hunahpu> Taev: if you have just installed it, you'll need to restart apache so it is loaded
[03:37] <Tecna> antonio_: without sudo working properly in your installed system, live-cd is the only reliable option.
[03:37] <roaddhogg> thats what i thought, thanks for clearing that up
[03:37] <ProfOak> Is there something wrong with the Ubuntu forums?
[03:37] <antonio_> can I use that command to just select one directory?
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, not sure (but sounds good)
[03:37] <Taev> i reinstalled the module
[03:37] <Taev> so I should restart?
[03:38] <antonio_> got my live cd loading up
[03:38] <StuckMojo> hmph
[03:38] <antonio_> if this works gonna be sooo stoked
[03:38] <FabParma> how to hide the kernel list on grub when boots?
[03:38] <hunahpu> Taev: with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart/stop/start
[03:38] <StuckMojo> seems as though i already ahve it
[03:38] <ZykoticK9> StuckMojo, grub2 - GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package)
[03:39] <sosaited> I am getting  "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when trying to install Ubuntu Lucid (from Karmic) with UnetBootin's HDD option? Any tips?
[03:39] <Karen_m> know how there is HWMonitor, is there something of the sort in ubuntu?
[03:39] <Taev> so sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[03:39] <antonio_> tecna: you're probably gonna have to run me threw some stuff
[03:39] <Karen_m> i want to monitor my laptop heat/temp
[03:39] <antonio_> the livecd is almost up.  Once its up to the desktop, do I have to mount my failing hd?
[03:39] <ZykoticK9> Karen_m, add to panel / hardware monitor is one method
[03:39] <hunahpu> Taev: first "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop" with that you'll stop it, then change stop for start to start it again....
[03:39] <Taev> its not running
[03:39] <Taev> to beging with
[03:39] <Taev> butok
[03:40] <FabParma> Karen_m: probably you have already the tool installed
[03:40] <Barnabas> taev its with ck
[03:40] <Taev>  * Starting web server apache2                                                  apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:40] <FabParma> Karen_m: try to type in a console   sensors
[03:40] <Tecna> antonio_: it works like any other ubuntu installation.  plug in your external.  the old drive should be listed in your places menu.  You should be able to click it to automatically mount and open it
[03:41] <Barnabas> taev you do not have the python plugin for apache installed
[03:41] <Taev> yes i do
[03:41] <Taev> libapache2-mod-python
[03:41] <Taev> i just reinstalled it
[03:41] <Barnabas> taev then the path is wrong
[03:41] <Taev> LoadModule python_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:41] <Taev> and its there
[03:41] <Taev> in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:41] <Barnabas> Taev, and can the apache user read it?
[03:42] <Barnabas> ?
[03:42] <Taev> what do you mean?
[03:42] <Taev> the permissions?
[03:42] <Barnabas> Taev, file permissions
[03:42] <Barnabas> yeah
[03:42] <Barnabas> or ownership
[03:42] <hunahpu> Taev: do you have "mod_python.load" file in mods-enabled?
[03:42] <Barnabas> depending on level of paranoia
[03:43] <Taev> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-03-22 18:27 mod_python.so
[03:43] <Taev> yes hunahpu
[03:43] <Taev> and in "mods-available"
[03:43] <antonio_> god I really hope this works...
[03:43] <Taev> they both point to /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:43] <Wiesshund> sosaited you still having problems?
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> Taev, i'm not sure, but should that mod_python.so be executable perhaps?
[03:44] <FabParma> Karen_m: does work sensors?
[03:44] <Taev> none of the other modules are
[03:44] <antonio_> damn
[03:44] <Barnabas> ZykoticK9, I dont think so
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> Barnabas, ok
[03:44] <Taev> mod_python.so has the same permissions as every other module
[03:44] <Barnabas> to be read by apache deamon
[03:44] <antonio_> after like half a minute of copying...I can hear the failing drive...making some not so nice noises...what should I do tecna:???
[03:44] <Tecna> antonio_: what type of filesystem is it?
[03:45] <Taev> and both files in mods-available, and mods-used points to /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so
[03:45] <antonio_> eft4 I think
[03:45] <Tecna> antonio_: stop the copying for now
[03:45] <Taev> so whats the problem?
[03:45] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm trying to play videos from dvd or file.    I get audio though.  I've got nvidia with proprietary drivers, using 10.04.  Anybody know anything about that?
[03:45] <antonio_> ok
[03:45] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Yes.
[03:45] <Wiesshund> antonio_ is the drive clicking? if so shut it off, unplug it for now
[03:45] <Galaxor> Are there common fixes for black-box-instead-of-video, or is this likely to be a bug in the nvidia driver?
[03:45] <Wiesshund> sosaited can you tell us exactly what youve done so far in the unetbootin install?
[03:46] <IdleOne> antonio_: some people have had success with putting the drive in the fridge for 10-15 minutes and then backing up files.
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, try another player VLC/Mplayer - try changing the Video Out VO to either GL or X11 and see if it works.
[03:46] <SimonSayez> Galaxor, Do you have a media player such as VLC installed ?
[03:46] <Barnabas> antonio_, Again I cannot stress the most imporant thing to do when a drive fails - get the data of the drive and put it somewhere else
[03:46] <Barnabas> before any fixes are attempted
[03:46] <xangua> Galaxor: what driver¿¿ the free, propietary¿
[03:46] <Arthur___> can anybody tell me how to get the volume control back on the task bar?
[03:46] <Tecna> antonio_: it sounds like your disk is physically damaged.  if those files are important, you should consider taking it to a specialist.
[03:46] <Wiesshund> antonio_ how important is this data? if the drive has physical damage or failure you may have to ship it out to a place like ontrak
[03:46] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9, SimonSayez: Yeah, this isn't a totem issue.  I've used vlc also.
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Arthur___, add to panel / indicator applet
[03:47] <IdleOne> Arthur___: right click the panel and add Indicator Applet
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, change the VO in the player
[03:47] <Galaxor> xangua:  nvidia 195.36.24 x86-64
[03:47] <Arthur___> ty
[03:47] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  In VLC?
[03:47] <FabParma> can you read this text?
[03:47] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, i think it's an option in VLC ya.
[03:47] <IdleOne> I can FabParma
[03:47] <Wiesshund> antonio_ the only way to recover files from a physical failure it to take apart the drive and mount the platters in a special machine that can read and recover them and you cant do that at home :(
[03:47] <Tecna> Wiesshund: hivemind
[03:48] <FabParma> thankx
[03:48] <Arthur___> works ty!
[03:48] <sosaited> Wiesshund: I first tried to write the ISO to HDD (root), restarted, the ubuntu screen came and everything, and after a while I got "Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem" (or it was unable to mount).
[03:48] <Wiesshund> Tecna hmm?
[03:48] <SimonSayez> Wiesshund, lol too much work hahah
[03:48] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  Hm.  I'm not sure what a VO is.  Where should I be looking for this?
[03:48] <antonio_> this is such bs!
[03:48] <Wiesshund> sosaited you did the frugal install or something else?
[03:48] <Taev> what package has libpython2.5.so.1.0
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, sorry VO = Video Output - you need to try changing it from the default XV to GL or X11
[03:48] <SimonSayez> I think VLC is the most advanced media player for Linux right now
[03:49] <Tecna> Wiesshund: we gave antonio_ the same answer at the same time
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, mplayer
[03:49] <Wiesshund> Tecna doh brain fart moment
[03:49] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Frugal install? You mean I selected the HDD?
[03:49] <antonio_> tecna: or anyone else, would I come across the same problem if I tried to send the files across a network?
[03:50] <jrib> Taev: probably none if you're on lucid since there is no python 2.5 afaict
[03:51] <Tecna> antonio_: probably.  the proplem seems to be the drive, so i wouldn't expect it to work for any destination.
[03:51] <Taev> Im on 8.04
[03:51] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Yes I did the frugal install.
[03:51] <Taev> and there should be  because my apache has worked fine for years
[03:51] <Wiesshund> sosaited ok. you still have access to windows then yes?
[03:51] <Taev> until stupid ass clamav
[03:51] <antonio_> these files are all of my emails from thunderbird...I'm wondering if there is a kind of plugin for firefox to output all of this stuff to another drive?
[03:52] <jrib> Taev: 8.04 isn't lucid.  Anyway, why don't you tell us the real issue?
[03:52] <Wiesshund> antonio_ if you keep spinnign the drive your going to damage it and make recovery expensive or impossible
[03:52] <sosaited> Wiesshund: I did it on Karmic btw. But yes I have access to windows AND karmic
[03:52] <Taev> apache won't start
[03:52] <jrib> Taev: what do you think I'm going to ask you next?
[03:52] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  All right.  It works when I set it to OpenGL.  Previously, it was on "Default".  Is there some way to make this the default?
[03:52] <Tecna> if you're willing to risk ruining the disk before finishing, you can just try copying in small chunks, but if the data is important, take it to a recovery specialist.
[03:52] <Taev> apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mod_python.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_python.so into server: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:52] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  System-wide?
[03:52] <Wiesshund> sosaited i take it your trying to install 10.04 also?
[03:52] <dstanek> any reason why trayer isn't available in karmic?
[03:52] <Taev> and now its running
[03:52] <Taev> i reinstalled python2.5
[03:53] <sosaited> Wiesshund: As I mentioned, I am trying to install 10.04 from Karmic, on a dual-boot system with Karmic + xp
[03:53] <z987k> anyone know of a ppa I can add to get the 2.6.35 kernel in lucid?
[03:53] <Taev> would some one please double check for me
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, nope, i don't think it's possible to change in the default gstreamer based apps either :(
[03:53] <Taev> does http://provo.homelinux.net load?
[03:53] <jrib> !enter | Taev
[03:53] <SimonSayez> ZykoticK9, Right mplayer is the most advanced at this time
[03:54] <iflema> dstanek alltray is similar
[03:54] <jrib> !away > radar3d|Zzz
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, sorry i shouldn't have said anything - it's a vi vs. emacs type argument ;)
[03:54] <Wiesshund> sosaited try running unet in windows, sometimes people have more luck with booting the virtual fs from win than nix
[03:54] <ruhtranayr> i broke my xorg.conf and can no longer get my TV back to 1360x768
[03:54] <antonio_> wiesshund: the hd was getting pretty hot..I was already having a problem with cooling, so I placed a fan under it..helped a little bit in the past few weeks...I might try keeping another fan on it...to keep it even cooler
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> SimonSayez, what ever works for YOU is best ;)
[03:54] <jrib> Taev: no it doesn't load.
[03:55] <Taev> hmmm
[03:55] <Wiesshund> antonio_ you are going to ruin it and not see your data again, how important is this data to you?
[03:55] <Taev> its loading for me
[03:55] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Ok. ANd one more thing. During the install, when it asks for where to install bootloader, should I leave it to "sda" or change it to my current grub/ubuntu partition?
[03:55] <Tecna> "Failed to retrieve share list from server" Somebody please help me figure out what's wrong with my samba server?   CLI output: http://pastebin.com/j3n4niis
[03:55] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  Hm.  I can't even find this setting in totem at all.
[03:55] <antonio_> not super super important...but I would like to have stuff backed up
[03:55] <jrib> Taev: now it is...
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, it isn't there!
[03:55] <Taev> strange now my wiki isn't working
[03:55] <Taev> grrrrr @ clam av
[03:55] <dstanek> iflema: thanks i'll check it out
[03:55] <Wiesshund> sosaited sda is where grub should always be. not that good to put grub in places like sdc1 etc
[03:56] <ruhtranayr> my tv is connected to my geforce 7100gs through vga...nvidia-settings will only show 640x480 and 320x300
[03:56] <dstanek> ratpoison isn't the same without it
[03:56] <linuxmascot> hello
[03:56] <antonio_> I've got 1.2 gigs of the 3 gigs already backed up...and I want to get the rest of it :(
[03:56] <ruhtranayr> ive reinstalled nvidia driver a few times, ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Is there any way I can confirm this? THough I am kinda sure it is already on sda and no sda5 (my linux partition).
[03:57] <Wiesshund> antonio_ well i can tell you with out a doubt if the drive is making noises and you keep running it, it is going to flat out die
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, many of the media apps ubuntu uses will have this issue i'm affraid
[03:57] <Wiesshund> sosaited there is but at the moment my brain fails me in remembering exactly how to look
[03:57] <z987k> anyone know of a ppa I can add to get the 2.6.35 kernel in lucid?
[03:58] <linuxmascot> I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:58] <Tecna> antonio_: if you're not willing to pay a specialist to recover the data, and it's not vital data, just copy in small chunks, shutting down after a minute of two to let it cool.  The drive will self-destruct if you keep using it, so if you do use it, only use it to very carefully back up the data
[03:58] <sosaited> Wiesshund: Ok, never mind. Thanks. I'll give windows a try, otherwise I'll try booting the ISO directly again and see if I can somehow fix the "can't unmount /iso...." problem
[03:58] <Wiesshund> antonio_ its your drive, but you seemed like you wanted to have a chance at recovering whats on it
[03:58] <iflema> dstanek ALSO trayer is available in Lucid Lynx 10.04
[03:58] <hunahpu> z987k: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:58] <tesuji> what has to be done so that a running program does show up in the process list?
[03:59] <linuxmascot> I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:59] <z987k> hunahpu,  won't that break a ton of kernel modules and such?
[03:59] <SimonSayez> that is why you should always have USB external backup hardrive
[03:59] <Galaxor> ZykotiK9: Aha.  I used the program gstreamer-properties and set the default output plugin to "X Window System (no XV)"
[03:59] <antonio_> wiseshund: someone told me that if I put the hd in a plastic bag, toss it in the freezer..wait 5 hours....pull it out and toss it into a volcanoe on the next island over and pray to the gods that it will magically repair it...will this work or is this just bs? ;)
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> Galaxor, thanks!  awesome!
[03:59] <Galaxor> ZykoticK9:  No, thank YOU.
[03:59] <Wiesshund> antonio_ if you dont care too much about the drive. take it out of the pc case, put it in a water tight bag, and sit it in ice water, and pray the cables are long enough to reach
[03:59] <linuxmascot> I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[03:59] <hunahpu> z987k: if you want a 100% safe option, use the regular kernels only; the ones there a re RC versions so are not 100% safe
[04:00] <SimonSayez> hard drives die out all the time for no apparent reason
[04:00] <Galaxor> And now, I shall commence with my main objective:  Watching Batman: The Animated Series on DVD.
[04:00] <SimonSayez> I had a brand new SSD hard drive die out me
[04:00] <Tecna> Wiesshund: that's a terrible idea
[04:00] <z987k> hunahpu,  well, for instance, I already got those images, but the nvidia kernel module failed to load on reboot
[04:00] <antonio_> wisehund: haha, I think I'll just try blowing on it :D
[04:00] <linuxmascot> I'm seeking some help. It deals with upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04, when ever one of you has a spare minute, It'd be appreciated.
[04:01] <Tecna> linuxmascot: what's the problem