[02:41] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: now my memory fails me. You have to load a module so it will read the disklabel (the Mac equivalent of a DOS-style partition table)
[02:42] <cables> garfield9, yep, you're safe :)
[02:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i uncompress it with tar -zxvf
[02:42] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: you can build just like any other source package, but be advised, its not support, or encouraged. i do suggest using "checkinstall" instead of 'make install' tho.
[02:42] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: but I can't remember right now...
[02:42] <Michael_the_choi> ahh. Ok.
[02:42] <SirOSOriS> what's the difference between a source and a binary installation file?
[02:42] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- I'll look around online later and see what I can find. THanks!
[02:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, cd to the untarred folder, run ./configure (you may have to install dependencies first) then it'll be done
[02:42] <Toma-> SirOSOriS: source is built against your system. binary is built against someone elses and usually isnt compatible, unless they provide the nessecary libs
[02:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  then make? or as Toma said check install?
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  or just ./configure then done?
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, then make, then checkinstall
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> okie okie
[02:43] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ./configure ; make ; checkinstall (youll need to install checkinstall with apt-get
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, make will make a binary file in that folder
[02:43] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: found it. It's compiled into the ubuntu kernel by default, so that's not it, sorry
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, then run checkinstall (install the checkinstall package first though)
[02:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, actually you'll need to run "sudo checkinstall"
[02:43] <Michael_the_choi> oh, hmm.
[02:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  oke sudo apt-get install checkinstall ?
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, yep
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, you have build-essential, right?
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok thanks
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ya i have those
[02:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, you can remove the -dev dependencies when you're done installing if you like
[02:44] <yipe> what's a .cbz file?
[02:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok
[02:45] <Toma-> yipe: afaik, its a comic book
[02:45] <zach89909> h
[02:45] <yipe> neat!
[02:45] <alan_> exit
[02:46] <snowpunk98> Can someone tell me how to take ownership of a directory
[02:46] <zach89909> can someone help me compile a custom kernel without errors?
[02:46] <Toma-> !kernel
[02:46] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:46] <cables> snowpunk98, you want gui or terminal?
[02:46] <Toma-> zach89909: see the last weblink in what ubotu said
[02:46] <cables> snowpunk98, I can help better with the gui
[02:46] <snowpunk98> cabldevil, term if possible
[02:47] <cables> snowpunk98, i think it's chown, but I'm not entirely sure.
[02:47] <Toma-> snowpunk98: man chown
[02:47] <Michael_the_choi> soundray- if I figure out the number, I can I mount it even though it isn't visible in /dev?  I found something that says to run parted (*gasp!*) and it will list which number it is.
[02:48] <Michael_the_choi> (or mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda ?)
[02:48] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: normally you can only mount a partition for which a device exists. But do try parted or gparted, it's quite hard to do something wrong with those
[02:48] <zach89909> Toma-:  from kernel.org
[02:48] <payal> hi all
[02:49] <Shaba1> Ok am I stuck again
[02:49] <soundray> Michael_the_choi: mac-fdisk sounds good, but ubuntu doesn't provide it as far as I can tell
[02:49] <payal> I want to change passwords of thirty users at a time - the password is same
[02:49] <payal> isthere any way to do it
[02:50] <i3ooi3oo> !NVIDIA-LEGACY
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-legacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  after checkisntall its show me.. " [02:50] <rwxr-xr--> " its mean my package installed fine?
[02:50] <i3ooi3oo> !NVIDIA
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <Toma-> zach89909: read the "old-Fashioned way" and just use the tarball from kernel.org instead of the /usr/src/linux.tar.gz
[02:50] <cables> rwxr-xr--, probably :)
[02:50] <payal> any ideas ?'
[02:50] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: yes.
[02:50] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  but there is problem when i try to open the app give me error.
[02:50] <Michael_the_choi> soundray: sda2. ;-)
[02:51] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that doesn't mean the package installation didn't go right.
[02:51] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that means the make didn't go right
[02:51] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: what error?
[02:51] <zach89909> Toma-: That is what I did, but it gave me a ton of errors and not founds
[02:52] <Toma-> zach89909: did you read the rest of the howto?
[02:52] <zach89909> no
[02:52] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,: root@freddy:/home/freddy/Desktop# trix
[02:52] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[02:52] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: dont run it as root
[02:52] <jrandolph> i having problems getting my ati card to work. i've been following the binary dirver/how to on the ubuntu website, but it doesn't seem to be working. is there another set of instructions i can follow?
[02:53] <jrandolph> *i'm
[02:53] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same problem with the user too
[02:53] <zach89909> Toma-: #make xconfig
[02:54] <zach89909> Toma-: #make dep
[02:54] <eavawter> anyone know anything about belkin routers and NAT's
[02:54] <Toma-> zach89909: youre not following the guide?
[02:54] <zach89909> Toma-: #make bzImage
[02:54] <cables> eavawter, is it an Ubuntu problem?
[02:55] <zach89909> Tk
[02:55] <fetcher> What's the best way to enable console messages during the boot process (both kernel & startup scripts) that Ubuntu hides by default?
[02:55] <eavawter> it is when it's the reason my wireless card won't connect ... so yes
[02:55] <cables> fetcher, edit menu.lst
[02:55] <Toma-> fetcher: remove 'quiet' from the boot parameter
[02:55] <cables> fetcher, edit the defoptions section to remove quiet and splash, then run sudo update-grub
[02:56] <cables> fetcher, the splash can also display messages, so just remove quiet if you want that
[02:56] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  i Found something in make..
[02:56] <fetcher> cables, Toma: thanks!
[02:56] <cables> fetcher, if you just want it temporarily, you can edit the line from the GRUB menu
[02:56] <zach89909> Toma-: Patrick Sweiskowski had success with it!
[02:57] <Toma-> zach89909: well ask Patrick Sweiskowski about it :D ive never been able to roll a kernel with the old skool commands in ubuntu. always works fine with the fakeroot makedpkg stuff.
[02:57] <Scunizi> Can anyone reccommend a channel for talking about images in HTML?
[02:57] <Kikkoman> oh carp
[02:57] <Kikkoman> I just installed ubuntu
[02:57] <Toma-> Scunizi: you can try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <Kikkoman> But now I can't boot into windows.
[02:57] <Scunizi> toma:  Thanks...
[02:58] <Kikkoman> It shows it as a choice, but it doesn't load into windows, it just returns to the GRUB menu
[02:58] <dyrne> Kikkoman: does windows show as an option at boot?
[02:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thats because ubuntu has killed your windows, for the good of mankind.
[02:58] <paitart> hi. what program should i get to be able to edit an mp4 video file?
[02:58] <Kikkoman> What can I do?
[02:58] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  if i found something problem or error with make cmd then what i should i do in return like " make[1] : Entering directory `/home/freddy/Desktop/trix-0.91'
[02:58] <rwxr-xr-->  " , "make[1] : Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
[02:58] <rwxr-xr--> "
[02:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: sounds like a simple grub error. can you please copy /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin?
[02:58] <Kikkoman> Erm
[02:59] <Kikkoman> One second
[02:59] <Toma-> !pastebin | Kikkoman
[02:59] <ubotu> Kikkoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <cables> rwxr-xr--, i don't know...
[02:59] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  ok.
[02:59] <Kikkoman> Toma-:Well that's it though, it also can't access the internet after ubuntu
[03:00] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: its fine. its just saying you gave no specifications to build that part of the program
[03:00] <netcrash> !offtopic
[03:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:00] <Toma-> Kikkoman: as in windows cant access the internet or ubuntu cant?
[03:00] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Ubuntu
[03:00] <Hammwell> is there a package for mod_perl2?
[03:01] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  well can i paste something on pastebin and if u have sometime can u chk it?
[03:01] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok youre using a wireless card im guessing?
[03:01] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: sure
[03:01] <rwxr-xr--> thanks
[03:01] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: tbh, itll be more useful to see the output of ./configure
[03:01] <paitart> hi. what program should i get to be able to edit an mp4 video file?
[03:01] <Kikkoman> Toma-:No, I have a direct connection
[03:02] <Kikkoman> Toma-:This computer (unrelated) is connecting through wireless]
[03:02] <snowpunk98> Whats the dpkg command to remove a package I used -i to install
[03:02] <bruenig> Hammwell, libapache2-mod-perl2:
[03:02] <Toma-> Kikkoman: its pretty simple to setup with the Network Manager in System > Admin > Network
[03:02] <Toma-> snowpunk98: dpkg -e
[03:02] <Kikkoman> ok
[03:02] <Hammwell> thanks bruenig :)
[03:02] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I'll try that and get back to you
[03:02] <Toma-> ok
[03:03] <bruenig> Toma-, I thought it was dpkg -r
[03:03] <snowpunk98> I think it was a bad idea to use alien to convert adobe to a deb :(
[03:03] <snowpunk98> now its broke
[03:03] <Toma-> *searches man page*
[03:03] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I get to that?
[03:03] <fetcher> How much actual performance benefit would a desktop machine see from a custom kernel optimized for the CPU (Athlon XP)?  I've always done that on other distros, but mostly just out of habit...
[03:03] <Toma-> ahh yes :D
[03:03] <Toma-> fetcher: absolutly no difference.
[03:04] <crdlb> fetcher, not much
[03:04] <crdlb> fetcher, you definitely shouldn't build your own kernel just for the speed
[03:04] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same line comes again n again when i try to run "trix: cannot connect to X server
[03:04] <rwxr-xr-->  "
[03:04] <Ashbringer> Hello, would anyone be able to give me a link to a good kernel compilation guide? I have a vanilla kernel installed, and I'd like to compile an Ubuntu one.
[03:04] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: the problem wont fix itself
[03:05] <Toma-> !kernel | Ashbringer
[03:05] <ubotu> Ashbringer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:05] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10397/
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I assume it might help to say that Ubuntu is on the slave drive
[03:05] <Toma-> ahh ha.
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: And Windows is on master
[03:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: where did you install grub to? MBR?
[03:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: hd(0,1)
[03:06] <fetcher> crdlb: yeah, suspected as much, especialy for the light duty this machine will see.
[03:06] <Kikkoman> You know what I mean
[03:06] <Ashbringer> thanks Toma
[03:06] <Kikkoman> hard drive 0, partition 1, which is windows partition
[03:06] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ahh, now thats easy to fix.
[03:06] <jrandolph> when trying to run aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv i get these two lines: Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session... and Warning: Option 'OpenGlOverlay' doesn't affect running session. should i be concerned about these warnings?
[03:06] <hunterp> http://digg.com/health/U_S_appeals_court_rules_against_dying_woman_in_medical_marijuana_case_In
[03:06] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  For u it is :) for me its a big thing i m overall newbie .. n using Ubuntu 1st time
[03:07] <dyrne> Kikkoman: hda1 would be hd0,0 hda2 hd0,1
[03:07] <Kikkoman> :o
[03:07] <Kikkoman> The default was hda0
[03:07] <Kikkoman> or something
[03:08] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: just a moment
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: did you paste menu.lst?
[03:08] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  sure dude nevamind i m waiting :)
[03:08] <Kikkoman> dyrne: I haven't been able to
[03:08] <Kikkoman> dyrne: Ubuntu won't access internet
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: ah
[03:08] <enderxim> Is there a way to use a bootable cd/dvd from an ext3 partitions .iso file?
[03:08] <dyrne> Kikkoman: sudo fdisk -l    to see partitions is the ntfs partition hda1?
[03:09] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: run this "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 trix"
[03:09] <Toma-> see if that helps
[03:09] <johnt> Python group needs me to IDENTIFY but I do not have a password. what do I need to do?
[03:09] <Kikkoman> fdisk?
[03:09] <schmity> hey
[03:09] <Kikkoman> Isn't that destructive partitioner?
[03:09] <schmity> where can i download a LIVECD for my MACBOOKPRO of UBUNTU OR KUBUNTU?
[03:09] <bimberi> !register | johnt
[03:09] <ubotu> johnt: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:09] <Kikkoman> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <Kikkoman> I think
[03:09] <dyrne> johnt: /msg nickserv register password   then whenever you log back in just /msg nickserv identify password
[03:09] <enderxim> Kikkoman: the -l just lists the partitions
[03:09] <Kikkoman> oh
[03:10] <Kikkoman> enderxim: In terminal then?
[03:10] <johnt> Thank you I will go look
[03:10] <schmity> Kikkoman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/livecd-base/
[03:10] <schmity> nothing there
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Ah
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Thanks
[03:10] <enderxim> Kikkoman: yeah, sudo fdisk -l. i came into the conversation late. Are you just trying to find your ntfs partition?
[03:10] <PriceChild> !caps | schmity
[03:10] <Kikkoman> Yes
[03:10] <ubotu> schmity: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  same as before "root@freddy:~# XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 trix
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> trix: cannot connect to X server
[03:10] <rwxr-xr--> "
[03:10] <Kikkoman> enderxim: I believe it is hd(0,1)
[03:11] <Kikkoman> enderxim: Windows is the second partition on the master HDD
[03:11] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: seriously, dont run it as root.
[03:11] <schmity> ubotu: i like shouting
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i like shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <schmity> !caps | PriceChild
[03:11] <ubotu> PriceChild: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:11] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  before tried it with user
[03:11] <schmity> !caps | PriceChild
[03:11] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: running it as root will try to load it in a root X window, which, you shouldnt have.
[03:11] <PriceChild> !botabuse > schmity
[03:11] <snowpunk98> Is Rythembox not able to play midi?
[03:11] <schmity> PriceChild: please stop harrasing me
[03:12] <crdlb> snowpunk98, I don't know of a gstreamer midi plugin, so afaik no
[03:12] <snowpunk98> :(
[03:12] <snowpunk98> What should I be playing midis with
[03:12] <Toma-> snowpunk98: timidity will
[03:12] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  dude same screen comes with the user too.
[03:12] <Kikkoman> Anyone: How do I access System > Network > Config
[03:12] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ok. stop running stuff as root :)
[03:12] <Kikkoman> Or whatnot
[03:12] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  okie :) now i m be with user :)
[03:12] <snowpunk98> is there a single audio application that will play all formats
[03:13] <Toma-> Kikkoman: System button > Administration > Network ??
[03:13] <Kikkoman> oh
[03:13] <Kikkoman> ^^
[03:13] <Toma-> snowpunk98: rythmnbox will
[03:13] <crdlb> snowpunk98, mplayer will play almost anything you can throw at it
[03:13] <adrenalin1983> Hi, I just installed ubuntu, everything is sweet with my networking config, but I cant browse web pages, I can ping which means dns seems to be working, im a bit stuck. Can someone please help?
[03:13] <mjunx> and the things it can't? you should file a bug with mplayer :P
[03:14] <mjunx> adrenalin1983, can you ping domain names?
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> can u give me an example of one to ping?
[03:14] <mjunx> google.com
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> yes
[03:14] <mjunx> tried and true :P
[03:14] <adrenalin1983> already have
[03:14] <mjunx> are you running NetworkManager?
[03:14] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, is it a dhcp ethernet connection to a router?
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> dhcp ethernet
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> local network
[03:15] <adrenalin1983> picks up ip fine
[03:15] <snowpunk98> Does the terminal log anywhere
[03:15] <snowpunk98> like the things I type into it
[03:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Ok, so I'm in the networking option, what do I do to make the internet connect
[03:15] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: have you got that output from ./configure for me yet?
[03:15] <mjunx> snowpunk98, ~/.bash_history
[03:15] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, so you haven't configured anything on ubuntu right
[03:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It seems that I have no IP or DNS
[03:15] <crdlb> manually
[03:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: not sure. set it up like any other network? are you using DHCP?
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> I tried manually configuring the network to see if dhcp was screwed but no difference
[03:16] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  now im trying to install .deb package but same problem with .deb package too
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> I ifconfig manually set ip and netmask
[03:16] <adrenalin1983> added a default gw to my server
[03:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: ;A; I don't know how to set up the network in Ubuntu
[03:16] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: this might seem silly, but you are running this from within a GUI right?
[03:16] <snowpunk98> mjunx, Thats the name of the file?
[03:16] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  ya
[03:16] <Toma-> !network
[03:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:16] <crdlb> adrenalin1983, try: wget google.com
[03:16] <mjunx> snowpunk98, yeah
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> and checked my sources.list and made sure the server was there as a domain name server
[03:17] <Toma-> ...wireless? silly bot.
[03:17] <eavawter> is there a way to keep track of what you've typed into the terminal window?
[03:17] <crdlb> eavawter, press up
[03:17] <Toma-> eavawter: ~/.bash_history
[03:17] <mjunx> eavawter, I just told adrenalin1983
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> It says connecting ... but ip is <IP_ADDRESS>|:80
[03:17] <Kikkoman> Toma-: If I have my IP from before, can I just put that in?
[03:17] <mjunx> or maybe you just joined
[03:17] <adrenalin1983> says that for apt aswell
[03:17] <eavawter> thanks
[03:18] <Toma-> Kikkoman: if youre home network is using STATIC ips then yes. if its using DHCP, then no. you select DHCP and off you go. can you setup a network in windows?
[03:18] <rwxr-xr--> hmm
[03:18] <snowpunk98> Hmm
[03:18] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I can't access Windows, remember? It is on the master while Ubuntu is on the slave
[03:19] <snowpunk98> mjunx, Do you know is there is anything thatll show me the terminal output also
[03:19] <adrenalin1983> any ideas?
[03:19] <Toma-> Kikkoman: i mean, are you capable of doing that... its pretty much the same process
[03:19] <tier`> if my monitor is capable of a resolution that isn't showing up as an option in my desktop settings is there a way to force it?
[03:19] <mjunx> snowpunk98, I don't think that's logged anywhere
[03:19] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Hmm, I'll just reboot and push F8 for a list of Operating systems
[03:19] <tier`> editing xorg.conf perhaps?
[03:19] <snowpunk98> oh well
[03:19] <hunterp> does no one care about dying woman denied of the one drug keeping her alive?
[03:19] <Roachclit_> What do I put in for the ESSID?
[03:19] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Oh, but yes I am capable
[03:19] <crdlb> hunterp, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <LabThug_hm> How do you tile windows in Kbuntu?
[03:19] <Kikkoman> hunterp: No, I'm not interested in your little marijuana story :P
[03:20] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok :) just set it up like any other network and sometimes youll need to "Stop" and "start" the device again (all in the network manager dialog)
[03:20] <mjunx> cannabis
[03:20] <zoonga> need some network assistance with ubuntu
[03:20] <mjunx> ask away
[03:20] <Roachclit_> What should I put in for the ESSID for ubuntu?
[03:20] <zoonga> wired, eth0, gets dns but no ip... dhcp setup
[03:20] <Toma-> Roachclit_: put your wireless routers ESSID into it...
[03:21] <emcay> anyone know how to get a linksys wireless-G card to work with ubuntu
[03:21] <mjunx> what model, emcay?
[03:21] <adrenalin1983> When I annitiate apt-get update ... it attempts to update from ip <IP_ADDRESS> and the same with mget
[03:21] <emcay> wmp56gs
[03:21] <adrenalin1983> why would this be happening?
[03:21] <tier`> heh, does everyone who comes in here ask solely about shit involving ndiswrapper/bcm43xx-fwcutter? =P
[03:22] <Kikkoman> ;A;
[03:22] <mjunx> a lot of people come in here, that's for sure
[03:22] <Roachclit_> Is the ESSID an ip or a name?
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Reboot + F8 doesn't work
[03:22] <mjunx> Roachclit, name
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Hmm
[03:22] <Toma-> Kikkoman: lets fix this grub problem.
[03:22] <Roachclit_> so where would I find my routers ESSID?
[03:22] <Kikkoman> Toma-:Let's
[03:23] <Roachclit> like right now I am no a windows pc if I do ipconfig/all
[03:23] <Toma-> Kikkoman: what boot loader are you getting? grub or windows?
[03:23] <mjunx> Roachclit_, it's the name that's broadcasted by the router
[03:23] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  is any app for local Lan chat? like trix or Vyqchat?
[03:23] <emcay> i had ubuntu 6.06
[03:23] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, : c0z this One is not going fine :< and not working
[03:23] <Kikkoman> Toma-: GRUB
[03:23] <adrenalin1983> Can someone please help? I got responces to begin with, now nothing
[03:23] <Kikkoman> Hmm?
[03:23] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok, did you paste your menu.lst onto pastebin?
[03:24] <mjunx> I'm out of ideas, adrenalin1983 :P
[03:24] <adrenalin1983> hmm
[03:24] <Kikkoman> Toma-: That leads me to the internet problem
[03:24] <Kikkoman> Here
[03:24] <Kikkoman> I'll just copy it to this comp
[03:24] <Roachclit> Where would I find the ESSID of my router?
[03:24] <Kikkoman> and use this internet :P
[03:24] <Toma-> Kikkoman: clever ;D
[03:25] <Kikkoman> Toma-: By the way, when I'm in grub, it doesn't say Ubuntu 6.10
[03:25] <Toma-> Roachclit: from your routers setup page?
[03:25] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It says like Ubuntu Kernel 2.510 or someting
[03:25] <Kikkoman> +h
[03:25] <mjunx> Roachclit, you can try "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:25] <Toma-> wow... weird
[03:25] <adrenalin1983> could it possibly be something to do with the inbuilt network card in the laptop?
[03:26] <rwxr-xr--> damn with the x server not start :<
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> I believe its loading e100 module for the network card
[03:26] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: jabber would be useful...
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> I may be wrong
[03:26] <Roachclit> find out, thanks
[03:26] <emcay> anyone have that card or one similiar
[03:26] <adrenalin1983> It works fine when I boot to xp
[03:26] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-, i dont know how to use it :< how to configure it
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> Toma-,  well where i can fine jabber?
[03:27] <z0rz> I'm using ubuntu as a gateway via iptables, but for some reason my network facing interface drops 50% of the packets (it's only did this recently and the only thing I've installed is ruby)
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> *get
[03:27] <Toma-> rwxr-xr--: ubuntu repos.
[03:27] <z0rz> I can ping google.com on the machine and not drop a packet .. but if I try to ping a computer on the internal network I get about 50% packety loss.. anyone know how I can go about trouble shooting this?
[03:27] <mjunx> get ejabberd
[03:27] <rwxr-xr--> !ejabberd
[03:27] <ubotu> ejabberd: Distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server written in Erlang. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1-8ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 787 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[03:28] <intelikey> anyone know enough about tzconfiguration to help me setup utc-5 ?
[03:28] <emcay> linksys wmp54gs
[03:28] <rwxr-xr--> mjunx, : ejabberd its for local lan chat?
[03:29] <mjunx> it's a jabber server
[03:29] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It won't install the windows networks support stuff
[03:29] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thank god...
[03:29] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Samba
[03:29] <Kikkoman> But how will I transfer the files to this computer
[03:29] <LabThug_hm> Google says Tiling Windows in Linux is a no-go.  Is that so?
[03:29] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok, is your home network running off static ips or DHCP?
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Well I don't know
[03:30] <Guest23589> can you email them to yourself Toma-
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I don't have a home network really
[03:30] <tier`> if my monitor is capable of 1280x1024 but under system - preferences - screen res. im only able to go up to 1024x768 can i just add 1280x1024 to xorg.conf and restart gnome?
[03:30] <cafuego_> LabThug_hm: 's a function of the window manager
[03:30] <mjunx> LabThug_hm, check out twm
[03:30] <Toma-> Guest23589: what?
[03:30] <cafuego_> LabThug_hm: I'm sure 75% of them cna do it, at least
[03:30] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I'll just type it on this comp
[03:30] <eavawter> try emailing the files to yourself .. then you can pick up the files from either computer
[03:30] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok :/
[03:31] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: I'm in KDE currently and would like to keep from restarting X if possible, thanks though
[03:31] <cafuego_> I'm pretty sure fvwm2 tiles by default
[03:31] <Toma-> eavawter: thats all well and good, but this persons PC has no internet.
[03:31] <grantgm> does anyone have any idea why the ubuntu startup sound is constantly repeating...and driving me insane...?
[03:31] <mjunx> LabThug_hm, windows snap to each other, so just drag 'em around I guess
[03:32] <eavawter> sorry Toma- .. trying to do 3 things at once and didn't see that .. I'll just be quiet for now
[03:32] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have about 80 wpm :P
[03:32] <Toma-> :>
[03:32] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: manual tiling....yay!
[03:32] <intelikey> time zone   ?
[03:32] <Toma-> Kikkoman: i use 2 fingers :>
[03:32] <mjunx> well, LabThug_hm, press F1
[03:32] <jessie_the_jeste> hello. anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:32] <grantgm> does anyone know how to restart sound without rebooting?
[03:32] <mjunx> you want automatic tiling, LabThug_hm?
[03:33] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: F1 leads me to http://help.opera.com/Linux/9.10/en/index.html
[03:33] <Toma-> grantgm: it will involve a hung amount of rmmod and modprobes. reboot = easy.
[03:33] <jessie_the_jeste> grantgm, try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart. I havent been able to find one that let's me get my sound going after suspend though.
[03:33] <Toma-> *huge
[03:33] <towoer> how to play copied .flv files
[03:34] <mjunx> towoer, mplayer and vlc can
[03:34] <LabThug_hm> mjunx: no automatic, but a menu option to invoke it would be nice
[03:34] <towoer> mjunx: vlc and no any plugins
[03:34] <sigger_> which java thingy do I want so I can run java apps from firefox?
[03:34] <cables> sigger_, sun-java5-plugin
[03:34] <jessie_the_jeste> anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:34] <variant> LabThug_hm: there is a beryl hack that allows that iirc
[03:34] <grantgm> jessie_the_jeste: yea, that doesn't seem to do anything...i'm not sure why...
[03:35] <rwxr-xr--> i just install the jabber repo from synaptic package manager how can i run it or where is the shortcut of jabber?
[03:35] <towoer> jessie_the_jeste: may need win32 codecs
[03:35] <LabThug_hm> so, it doesn't come standard with KDE?
[03:35] <cables> rwxr-xr--, what are you trying to do with Jabber?
[03:35] <mjunx> towoer, vlc should play it by default
[03:35] <grantgm> but even "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop" doesn't stop the sound
[03:35] <towoer> mjunx thanks
[03:35] <jessie_the_jeste> towoer, i've got the win32 codecs. it just kindof skips the first bit.
[03:35] <sigger_> cables, thanks
[03:35] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Can I just skip to the good part
[03:35] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  through jabber i can chat on my local lan?
[03:35] <Toma-> Kikkoman: sure
[03:35] <jessie_the_jeste> grantgm, maybe not. thought itd try to help
[03:36] <Kikkoman> :D
[03:36] <mjunx> rwxr-xr--, yeah
[03:36] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so you're setting up your own server?
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> no
[03:36] <grantgm> thanks anyways :)
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  just want to connect with my running server
[03:36] <towoer> jessie_the_jeste: i've seed pretty good blogs how to play wma on mplayer
[03:36] <cables> rwxr-xr--, Gaim has Jabber support
[03:36] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  let me chk it
[03:37] <jessie_the_jeste> im using xine. any idea how to use mplayer or gstreamer?
[03:37] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if you've already got a server running, Gaim will work fine with it.
[03:37] <enderxim> Does anyone know how to use grub to boot a .iso file from an ext3 partition?
[03:38] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  what is the server tab there? my Server ?
[03:38] <cables> rwxr-xr--, put your server in the server box
[03:39] <rwxr-xr--> And the Resource?
[03:39] <cables> rwxr-xr--, that doesn't matter
[03:39] <cables> rwxr-xr--, leave it.
[03:39] <dredhammer> hello a newbie qustion how does one checkout a previous version of software via subvision instead of the latest svn version?
[03:39] <mjunx> svn co -r somerevision
[03:39] <zoonga> anyone know how to fix dhcp not receiving ip address ?
[03:39] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  its asking me for password ..
[03:40] <jessie_the_jeste> any other ideas?
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, are you running your own jabber server?
[03:40] <dredhammer> ok thanks mjunx
[03:40] <rwxr-xr--> no .. i m trying to link to my lAN server
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so you're saying your lan has a Jabber server running on it.
[03:40] <cables> rwxr-xr--, do you have a password on that server?
[03:40] <towoer> as fare as i sure mplayer is not free on ubuntu reppositories
[03:41] <cables> !info mplayer
[03:41] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  no i d0nt have any password my LAn support just Mac/IP
[03:41] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[03:41] <mjunx> wow, that's an old version...
[03:41] <cables> rwxr-xr--, are you sure the chat server you're running on your LAN is Jabber?
[03:41] <towoer> multiverse is not whole free
[03:41] <cables> towoer, yep
[03:41] <towoer> :(
[03:41] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i think may LAN server is not Running jabber server.
[03:41] <variant> towoer: mplayer is free software, it includes some support for formats that may/maynot be legal in some countries
[03:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, so why are you trying to use jabbe?
[03:42] <cables> *jabber?
[03:42] <cables> !away | Miro_Offline
[03:42] <ubotu> Miro_Offline: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[03:42] <mjunx> mplayer has lots of patented algorithms in it (stupid, I know), so it's "non-free" because of that
[03:42] <rwxr-xr--> cables, someone told me that u can use jabber for lan chat.
[03:42] <rwxr-xr--> :<
[03:42] <cables> rwxr-xr--, well you need a server running...
[03:42] <mjunx> you can...
[03:42] <mjunx> well, what do you mean be "lan chat"?
[03:42] <towoer> i'm not sure but my problems begins sinse i ading any extra repositories exept main and universe
[03:43] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  okie man :< All things going fine dont know why trix going to create problem .. damn..
[03:43] <DisabledBobcat> I have an install.bin fine. How in the world can I install it?
[03:43] <variant> mjunx: it's free because it's completely gpl. if software patents are legal in your country thats another matter (mplayer is developed primarily by hungarians iirc)
[03:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, why can't you just use an Internet IM service? jabber.org has a free Jabber server...
[03:43] <mjunx> europeans in general at least
[03:43] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if you want to run your own Jabber server, you can though.
[03:43] <mjunx> DisabledBobcat, try "sh install.bin"
[03:43] <variant> DisabledBobcat: in a terminal do chmod +x /path/to/instal.bin && sh /path/to/install.bin
[03:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  so if i run my own jabber server then i can chat with my LAN users ?
[03:44] <DisabledBobcat> mjunx: thank you very much
[03:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, if they have jabber clients installed on their system, yes.
[03:44] <mjunx> rwxr-xr--, if your lan users register with your local jabber server, yes
[03:44] <DisabledBobcat> variant: thanks a million
[03:45] <rwxr-xr--> cables, sorry dude .. on my lAN there is just 3 users too use linux ..
[03:45] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  leave it man its not for me.
[03:45] <eavawter> well .. I'm certainly temped to go to another OS
[03:45] <mjunx> well, you could try talk
[03:45] <cables> rwxr-xr--, I'm curious, why can't you just use AIM or something like that?
[03:45] <cables> rwxr-xr--, or a public jabber server like jabber.org?
[03:46] <variant> or write
[03:46] <cables> rwxr-xr--, is your lan not internet-connected?
[03:46] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  its connected but .. no jabber is on any machine
[03:46] <Ubuntu_GRUB> Hi
[03:46] <cables> rwxr-xr--, I'm just wondering why you want an in-network chatt rather than something over the internet like AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Google Talk, public Jabber?
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> hehe
[03:47] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I've typed it up
[03:47] <Kikkoman> Toma-: What do I do now
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  some time .. if lan g0t d/c so we have fun on lan chat ;><
[03:47] <mjunx> !ask | eavawter
[03:47] <ubotu> eavawter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:47] <Toma-> !pastebin | Kikkoman
[03:47] <ubotu> Kikkoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <K3nto> xfce=unpleasantness
[03:47] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  in other words we xchange .. movies etc..
[03:48] <Dirkson> Hey all. Is there any easy way to fix my dependency tree? Any update to anything errors out on my system, and it keeps trying to upgrade to 6.10... Even though it's 6.10 I've got installed
[03:48] <mjunx> use ssh then?
[03:48] <eavawter> I have ubotu .. and I'm getting the royal run around
[03:48] <Vilhelms> Ugh I'm so tired of alsa messing up on me, how can I restart alsa without restarting my PC? I keep getting a 'device is busy' error :(
[03:48] <Hammwell> is there a command to manage running services like httpd and mysql? i am familiar with "services" command in redhat
[03:48] <mjunx> Dirkson, try a dist-upgrade
[03:48] <eavawter> not ALL ubuntu's fault
[03:48] <variant> Dirkson: run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <cables> rwxr-xr--, can't you use file sharing and stuff for that? I don't think an IM client is what you want for file transfers within a network...
[03:48] <Dirkson> mjunx, Errors out
[03:48] <Ubuntu_GRUB> I installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10) and used the default option to install the GRUB boot loader to mbr.  When I select Windows XP Home Edition, it just stands there at "Starting up..." :(
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Toma-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10426/
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Toma-: *Kikkoman Note* was added by me
[03:48] <mjunx> Dirkson, with what error specifically?
[03:48] <Kikkoman> Not actually in the file though
[03:49] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  no :) with trix or vyqchat.. just send file and Recive file.. and chat with local lan users easily its so easy.. u dont need to share any thing
[03:49] <mjunx> eavawter, well, I don't remember seeing your question, so ask again
[03:49] <variant> eavawter: please explain the issues, if you expect someone to help you
[03:49] <rwxr-xr--> cables,  i just use this 2 apps for local chat.
[03:49] <Dirkson> mjunx, variant, dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:49] <Dirkson> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:49] <jessie_the_jeste> anybody else have the problem that .wma always seem to skip out at the beginning. probably the first six seconds. version 1.4.3
[03:49] <variant> Dirkson: after running apt-get update?
[03:50] <variant> jessie_the_jeste: version 1.4.3 of what?
[03:50] <Dirkson> variant, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:50] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB: the same problom me, i removed XP whole
[03:50] <eavawter> I have a belkin router .. which WILL see my linux system trying to connect (as it shows an ip addy knocking at the door) but it won't connect .. either because of NAT or for some other reason
[03:50] <variant> Dirkson: sorry, no idea
[03:50] <mjunx> Dirkson, do an update then
[03:50] <Ubuntu_GRUB> =-O
[03:50] <Dirkson> variant, Gotcha. Seems to be the second command doing the problem
[03:50] <variant> eavawter: if you run sudo dhclient eth0 what happens?
[03:50] <Dirkson> mjunx, What sort of update?
[03:50] <eavawter> I'm trying to get my wireless card to work
[03:50] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: my Wife does not use Ubuntu, that is not an option
[03:50] <mjunx> aptitude update
[03:51] <variant> Dirkson: try touch /var/lib/dpkg/available
[03:51] <variant> eavawter: i see
[03:51] <variant> eavawter: sorry, i have little to no experience of wifi
[03:51] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB : ubuntu and xp wont fit as dual boot by default :(
[03:51] <Ubuntu_GRUB> =-O
[03:51] <hosk> hey, firefox question: something about totem failing? i tried upgrading macromedia flash, it said it installed successfully, but i still get the message
[03:51] <mjunx> totem isn't flash ;p
[03:51] <Dirkson> mjunx, The apt-get/aptitude update completes fine, but doesn't seem to help the situation
[03:52] <Dirkson> variant, Trying.... This is working better.
[03:52] <mjunx> you can't dist-upgrade after that, Dirkson?
[03:52] <hosk> well, i got multiple errors
[03:52] <hosk> totem failing and that i should upgrade flash
[03:52] <Dirkson> mjunx, Nope, but variant's touch idea worked. ... I should really learn what touch does :D
[03:52] <mjunx> it creates a file if it doesn't exist
[03:52] <Toma-> Kikkoman: what happens when you choose windows from grub?
[03:52] <Vilhelms> Ugh, could someone help me with alsa problems? I keep getting device is busy!
[03:52] <mjunx> otherwise it updates the mtime
[03:53] <towoer> Ubuntu_grub: tray to play virtual xp
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It looks as if it is going to boot
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: But it just goes back to GRUB
[03:53] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Within 2 seconds
[03:53] <Dirkson> mjunx, Gotcha. And updates last access time, if that's gotten messed up. Cool!
[03:53] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: Virtual PC?
[03:53] <Toma-> no errors? does it get to the windows loader?
[03:53] <Kikkoman> No
[03:53] <Dirkson> mjunx, Anyway, it appears to be working now : )
[03:53] <Kikkoman> It goes straight to grub
[03:53] <Dirkson> variant, Thanks a lot : )
[03:53] <mjunx> great!
[03:53] <Kikkoman> erm
[03:54] <Kikkoman> Toma-: The Compaq loader comes on though, it has the system recovery option
[03:54] <towoer> Ubuntu_GRUB: use then knopix live cd
[03:54] <QMario> THANK GOD!!! THE PRINTING WORKS!!! NOW EVERYONE ON MY NETWORK CAN PRINT!!! I AM SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!!! THANK GOD!!! :) :) :) THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE!!!
[03:54] <Ubuntu_GRUB> lol
[03:54] <eavawter> as long as my computer is hardwired to the system it's fine .. the eth1 tells me "the network is down"
[03:54] <Rapido> lolol
[03:54] <Kikkoman> LOL FAKE CAPS
[03:54] <Toma-> QMario: keep it to lower case next time :)
[03:55] <Ubuntu_GRUB> towoer: thanks
[03:55] <mjunx> !caps | QMario
[03:55] <ubotu> QMario: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:55] <QMario> Toma, sorry, but I am so relieved right now. :)
[03:55] <mjunx> you can bold things instead perhaps?
[03:55] <towoer> Ubunt_GRUB: np
[03:55] <Toma-> QMario: have a cup of tea and a good sit down. :)
[03:55] <Vilhelms> Can someone please tell me how to restart alsa, I keep getting a device is busy error
[03:55] <DiscoStu> hi there
[03:55] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Don't you mean coffee? :D
[03:55] <Toma-> thatsll just get him/her more excited
[03:56] <Kikkoman> Oh right
[03:56] <mjunx> Vilhelms,  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:56] <DiscoStu> still having trouble getting tightvncserver to run. can anyone help me fix its font problems?
[03:56] <Kikkoman> Toma-: So what can I do to fix GRUB?
[03:56] <mjunx> Kikkoman, grub-install again?
[03:56] <Toma-> Kikkoman: id say it might pay to install to MBR again and see if that helps.
[03:57] <eavawter> I'm trying to get my wireless connection to work .. I finally get the drivers loaded .. and now my router won't let it connect
[03:57] <Toma-> other than that, use the Compaq boot loader to fix it, then use another method of getting a boot loader up. either using the windows loader or the grub loader
[03:57] <mjunx> eavawter, what wireless card?
[03:58] <eavawter> it's a broadcom
[03:58] <mjunx> oh snap, I knew it
[03:58] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Compaq boot loader = only system recovery
[03:58] <mjunx> I propose we make an #ubuntu-broadcom channel
[03:58] <eavawter> but .. I got that working
[03:58] <brophat> how can i find out if an hp desktop works with ubuntu?
[03:58] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ahh ok.
[03:58] <mjunx> I don't know anything about broadcom NICs, sorry
[03:58] <hosk> so, right now ubuntu is on vpc2007; does vmware support 24bit color depth?  vpc does not, apparently
[03:58] <DiscoStu> I corrected the fontPath in /etc/vnc.conf to match the real directory structure in /usr/share/X11/fonts/ which didn't help
[03:58] <towoer> kismet didint workt with ipw2200 in monitor mode
[03:58] <mjunx> brophat, get a list of parts; if it's an intel machine, it probably all works fine
[03:59] <inanet> can anyone help me here? i instulled ubuntu working great, I tried to install proprietary drivers - now i cant see the gui. I can get to the prompt via recovery mode.. but how do i fix it?
[03:59] <inanet> ATI btw
[03:59] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I change it so I can use the Windows bootloader?
[03:59] <brophat> mjunx i thought amd worked better with linux
[03:59] <mjunx> well, cpu-wise, there's no difference in support
[03:59] <mjunx> but amd notebooks (and desktops?) tend to have crappy parts in them (e.g. broadcom-based wireless card, ati video card, etc.)
[04:00] <clarklinux> hello: i'm hung up in a xubuntu 6.10 installation on a newworld g3 powerbook (ppc), can anyone help?
[04:00] <mjunx> try #xubuntu clarklinux?
[04:00] <brophat> mjunx but when you but a pre-fab puter you usually can't get the details of the parts down to the specificty you need to in order to determine if it is linux compatible, can you?
[04:00] <Toma-> Kikkoman: use the windows xp install disk to get to the resuce system/terminal and run 'fixmbr'
[04:00] <brophat> mjunx ism
[04:00] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Lol, it was preinstalled ;A;
[04:00] <mjunx> brophat, not sure, but you can probably check the hardware compatibility lists
[04:00] <Toma-> gah.
[04:01] <Toma-> still should have an OEM disk with i?
[04:01] <Toma-> *it
[04:01] <Kikkoman> Erm
[04:01] <Kikkoman> It didn't come with one
[04:01] <brophat> mjunx isn't there a place that lists ppls luck with ubuntu on certain boxes?
[04:01] <mjunx> wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere
[04:01] <amicrawler> where are the start up items for kde
[04:01] <mjunx> amicrawler, ~/.kde/Autostart/
[04:01] <Toma-> Kikkoman: damn lazy PC builders. ok looks like we're gonna need to use grub to fix this one
[04:01] <brophat> ok thanks will do
[04:01] <Kikkoman> Ok
[04:02] <clarklinux> mjunx: sorry, thought i wasin it haha
[04:02] <towoer> ipw2200 does not wirking with kismet on monitor mode :(
[04:02] <lucky_> anyone know a program to cut sections from a DVD?
[04:02] <mjunx> clarklinux, eh? too much stuff going on
[04:03] <amicrawler> there is nothing there
[04:03] <mjunx> lucky_, mencoder can do that
[04:03] <amicrawler> but kde start very slow
[04:03] <shellsage> anyone have an idea on how to *disable* a usb device?  specifically a wireless keyboard?
[04:03] <Kikkoman> shellsage: unplug it :D
[04:03] <eavawter> thanks for your help everyone .. but I need a break .. been doing this for over 8 hrs .. be back later
[04:03] <towoer> shellsage: just unmount :)
[04:03] <shellsage> Kikkoman, my girlfriend's receiver is picking up my wireless keyboard, and I can't switch channels
[04:04] <shellsage> towoer, funny
[04:04] <amicrawler> mjunx  what will slow kde from running right
[04:04] <Kikkoman> Hmm
[04:04] <Kikkoman> I don't know, sorry, I'm a super-newb
[04:04] <Kikkoman> :D newb, I haven't heard that for a while
[04:04] <mjunx> amicrawler, if you've got a bunch of programs open when you log out, those get started again
[04:04] <towoer> shellsage: or safely reject
[04:04] <amicrawler> how do i stop all the programs
[04:05] <amicrawler> from running
[04:05] <Kikkoman> Toma-: How do I get GRUB to fix it?
[04:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html
[04:05] <brophat> ubunut for amd64 is stable?
[04:05] <shellsage> towoer, what?
[04:05] <Toma-> Kikkoman: thatll be "sudo grub" tho
[04:05] <mjunx> brophat, yeah
[04:05] <Kikkoman> erm
[04:05] <Kikkoman> Can I get step by step instructions
[04:05] <inanet> any suggestions on how to fix my display drivers? or to install the standard ubuntu ones?
[04:05] <Kikkoman> I really can't mess this up
[04:06] <amicrawler> where are thoes files mjunx
[04:06] <Toma-> Kikkoman: read it... it has step by step instructions
[04:06] <Kikkoman> Ok
[04:06] <towoer> Kikkoman: google appears to be you friend
[04:06] <jessie_the_jeste> i hate you
[04:06] <Berto2> what's the ubuntu package to run/install for setting up X11?  My mouse is doing weird things
[04:06] <amicrawler> is it  ~/home/user/lib/?????
[04:06] <nu-> Hey guys. Im back. who remembers me? i was gettin help with the issue of installing ubuntu with 8800gtx
[04:06] <mjunx> amicrawler, not sure
[04:07] <nu-> i now have a log and xorg.conf
[04:07] <b00gz> Berto2: How are you liking Verizon FIOS?
[04:07] <nu-> had to copy and ftp it
[04:07] <Kikkoman> Toma-: What will be the result of me following those instructions *say I do everything correct*
[04:07] <mjunx> yeah we remember you
[04:07] <nu-> ok
[04:07] <nu-> someone asked to view the log file
[04:07] <amicrawler> so if i run gnome  apps  will i need to run gnome  my main gui is kde 3.5.5
[04:07] <nu-> http://paste2.org/p/1878  <-- log
[04:08] <nu-> the error is "no screens found"
[04:08] <Toma-> Kikkoman: youll have grub installed on MBR then we can start getting to the nitty gritty of the windows problem
[04:08] <Kikkoman> Ah
[04:08] <cyris> anyone know where i could find a ldap schema file for vpopmail ? i'm not configuring vpopmail for ldap atm, just wanna look at the object classes and attributes.
[04:08] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[04:08] <mjunx> evening, mobiGeek
[04:08] <Cryoniq> !iso
[04:08] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:09] <mobiGeek> trying to start apache2, I get the following:     /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: line 78:  7368 Segmentation fault      $HTTPD -k start -DSSL
[04:09] <mobiGeek> any suggestions?
[04:09] <nu-> i dont think ubuntu suppots 8800gtx
[04:09] <mobiGeek> I've tried manually running /usr/sbin/apache2 start, but it also segfaults.
[04:09] <mjunx> mobiGeek, maybe you don't have ssl installed for apache?
[04:09] <mjunx> or enabled via mod_ssl or something
[04:10] <Toma-> nu-: sure it does
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Do I need to make a GRUB disk?
[04:10] <mobiGeek> mjunx: even running without -DSSL, it segfaults
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Because GRUB is already installed
[04:10] <mjunx> dunno then, check your config files for syntax errors
[04:10] <Kikkoman> It works just fine
[04:10] <nitalaut> hello guys
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Except for booting windows
[04:10] <Kikkoman> :P
[04:10] <stuporglue> Anyone know if BulletProofX made it into Feisty?
[04:10] <nitalaut> i'm trying to put data from full mysql backup back into mysql...is this mysql -u admin -p -A </opt/backup_new/mysqldump20070415.sql the right command ??
[04:10] <mjunx> or if you can run it under gdb, you can find where it segfaults
[04:10] <Toma-> Kikkoman: no, just making sure its on the master boot
[04:10] <mobiGeek> but shouldn't apache2 report an error in the config?
[04:10] <mjunx> stuporglue, ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <Kikkoman> Toma-: So how do I check?
[04:11] <Toma-> nu-: youll need the new nvidia drivers. try using envy
[04:11] <Toma-> !envy | nu-
[04:11] <ubotu> nu-: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:11] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Sorry that I'm such a noob at this :D It's a whole new operating system though
[04:11] <stuporglue> mjunx: thanks
[04:12] <garfield9> help!  i just got my Wifi working using ndiswrapper but I still have some lagging probems --> when I do "iwlist scanning" it can see my home network but refuses to connect using wlan0.  I tried manually entering the ESSID etc. but nothing is responding...any ideas?
[04:12] <Toma-> Kikkoman: im not sure how to check where grub is installed...
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: Hmm... Let's do the internet first then
[04:13] <Dirkson> Hey all. My girlfriend want control+a bound to "select all". Is there an easy way to do this?
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have Networking open
[04:13] <Kikkoman> Toma-: I have Wired Connection selected
[04:13] <jrib> Dirkson: that's already the case, what program specifically isn't working?
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, Curious. Any program, as near as I can tell.
[04:14] <Kikkoman> Now how do I make the darned thing work?
[04:14] <nu-> Toma-: thank you
[04:14] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ok. now. you need to findout if your router is using DHCP. open up your routers web config page with another computer
[04:14] <Toma-> nu-: np
[04:14] <jrib> Dirkson: how about... gedit?
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, I did install some custom Japanese input method thingies. Perhaps one of those is conflicting.
[04:14] <jrib> Dirkson: maybe
[04:14] <Dirkson> jrib, Nope, doesn't work in gedit.
[04:14] <inanet> can anyone tell me how to reinstall the standard ati driver that comes with ubuntu?
[04:14] <Kikkoman> Toma-: It's open
[04:15] <jrib> Dirkson: when you go to the edit menu, does it say "ctrl-a" next to "select all"?
[04:15] <Berto2> b00gz, hhahahaha hey quit sniping me
[04:15] <Toma-> Kikkoman: ive got no idea how to find it out from there. try finding a DHCP button somewhere and see if its enabled
[04:15] <Berto2> b00gz, but yeah it's un-freaken-believable.  just moved to redondo beach in jan and love fiber
[04:15] <mobiGeek> is there an apt- command I can use to "re-install" apache2 ?
[04:15] <Kikkoman> Toma-: There is a DCHP release button
[04:15] <cafuego_> apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[04:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: anything connected via DHCP?
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: And a disabled DCHP Renew button
[04:16] <Dirkson> jrib, Aye, it is the japanese input thingie. She wants me to disable it anyway... She wants to use a windows-specific program instead of the open source one.... I fail to see the difference, other than the windows-specific makes my life harder.
[04:16] <jrib> mobiGeek: sudo aptitude reinstall apache2-common  is probably what you want though it won't accomplish much most of the time
[04:16] <johan_> hillo can i use 'shutdown -r' and specify into what system to reboot: system listed in grub menu.lst
[04:16] <jrib> Dirkson: heh, well gl with that :)
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Toma-: There is a section called WAN that says Connection type: DCHP
[04:16] <nu-> Toma-: i dont think i can use envy, because X won't start
[04:16] <Toma-> Kikkoman: im here for another 5 mins then i have to go :/
[04:16] <flafla> does anyone else here think beryl is causing their ubuntu to become unstable?
[04:16] <nu-> and i i see there hat it's a GUI app
[04:16] <Kikkoman> Oh
[04:17] <Toma-> nu-: theres a text based version too
[04:17] <jrib> flafla: beryl is unstable
[04:17] <johan_> when i do 'shutdown -r' it reboots into default
[04:17] <Toma-> nu-: you just run it with 'envy -t'
[04:17] <nu-> Toma-: gotcha. thanks
[04:17] <Toma-> np
[04:17] <flafla> jrib:  so is that a yes?  cause I think ubuntu becomes very unstable for me at times, and I think it's caused by beryl
[04:17] <cafuego_> flafla: Of course it is.
[04:17] <cafuego_> flafla: beryl is full of bugs
[04:18] <Toma-> Kikkoman: just try setting the IP settings in Netowrk settings to "DHCP"
[04:18] <Toma-> if it fails, you dont have DHCP enabled on your router
[04:18] <flafla> cafuego_: tx  I just keeping beryl installed and just having it off is good enough
[04:19] <Mithology> hey guys, got a question if someone doesnt care to answer it for me
[04:19] <N6REJ> would someone mind clearing up a tiny confusion I have with NFS vs Samba.  Do I need both or is simply NFS enough?
[04:19] <hartubuntu> hmm i have a question: i have the boot cd for ubuntu, i boot off of it and i select "start or install ubuntu", then the screen just goes black and a white curser blinks in the top left of the screen and stays there for a long time while the cd drive is doing nothing... has anyone seen any error like this?
[04:19] <Mithology> im new to ubuntu, but am deciding to run it on my main pc, i have iso's for both 6.06 and 6.10
[04:19] <Mithology> which should i go with ?
[04:19] <aegisthis> heyo
[04:20] <brophat> do you think it is a good chance that ubuntu will work on an HP computer?
[04:20] <Toma-> 6.10
[04:20] <Dr_willis> hartubuntu,  badly burnt cd.. or some some sort of currupted iso file issue. most likely
[04:20] <Mithology> my main concern is software differences
[04:20] <Kevin> hartubuntu, that doesnt sound normal
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Mithology,  use 6.10
[04:20] <Mithology> Toma-, ah okay, thanks for the advice man
[04:20] <N6REJ> its not, probably a bad iso
[04:20] <hartubuntu> hmm yeah i didn't think it seemed normal
[04:20] <Mithology> cool, then its done, ill install it on there now ;P
[04:20] <Kevin> when i put my dick in and click start or install it goes to a live desktop, then you click the icon install
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Mithology,  what sort of pc? you dont need to use the 64bit ubuntu, on 64bit cpu's (just in case you are thinking that)
[04:20] <flafla> is there a stable version of beryl available for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Kevin> lol
[04:20] <aegisthis> is the gnome 2.18 package available yet? and from where?
[04:20] <N6REJ> do a md5-sum check after redl the iso
[04:21] <Mithology> Dr_willis, nah, this is just a p4 2.4 box
[04:21] <hartubuntu> ok i'll try another burn, i used alcohol for this disc, do you guys have any better programs to burn iso's?
[04:21] <Mithology> ive got 6.06 on this box atm
[04:21] <Mithology> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 997MHz]  mem[Physical : 121MB, 47.8% free]  disk[Total : 18.01GB, 82.70% Free]  video[Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] ]  sound[ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2]
[04:21] <N6REJ> kevin? check your typing :P
[04:21] <Toma-> flafla: you can get 0.2.0 working with the deryl repos...
[04:21] <Kevin> yeah i saw that
[04:21] <Mithology> i got a bunch of free dell workstations
[04:21] <Mithology> from an office that had upgraded everything
[04:21] <Mithology> so i ended up with like 3 p3 boxes and p4 box
[04:21] <Mithology> i dont mind playing around with os's on those, but id like to get my main box back up and running
[04:22] <Mithology> i was just wondering about the software repositories
[04:22] <Toma-> sorry folks, im out.
[04:22] <Mithology> i wasnt sure if .06 had more software
[04:22] <Mithology> or what
[04:22] <Kevin> anyone know how to get a game controller operating under ubuntu?
[04:23] <N6REJ> Mithology: remember ubuntu is linux so if it will run in linux and the hw meets the minimum requirements it should run fine.
[04:23] <ubuntu-user> could someone help me? I dont quite understand how to restore my grub boot menu. I installed vista and I need to reinstall grub to get to my linux, and windows
[04:23] <h1st0> !grub | ubuntu-user
[04:23] <ubotu> ubuntu-user: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:23] <Mithology> N6REJ, yes, but one of the things appealing about ubuntu was the repositories
[04:23] <Mithology> at least to me
[04:23] <h1st0> ubuntu-user: the first link is the one you are looking for from ubotu recovering ubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[04:24] <Mithology> ubuntu seemed to have more interesting generic software in its repositories than say mdv with its urpmi stuff
[04:24] <N6REJ> Mithology: sure, I understand that completely.  Get the DVD edition of 6.06 if your concerned about losing software.
[04:24] <Mithology> N6REJ, okay, but in general, its all available through synaptic right ?
[04:25] <N6REJ> then you've got both.  The dvd edition has MUCH more available then normal cd.
[04:25] <N6REJ> yep
[04:25] <Mithology> awesome
[04:25] <N6REJ> just add the extra repos
[04:25] <Mithology> N6REJ, using the "Software Sources" utilities ?
[04:25] <Mithology> erm utility
[04:25] <N6REJ> !easy|Mithology
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <N6REJ> !easy-source
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <N6REJ> grrrrr
[04:25] <N6REJ> !repos
[04:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:26] <N6REJ> !easysource|mithology
[04:26] <ubotu> mithology: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:26] <Mithology> ah even better
[04:26] <ardchoille> N6REJ: It's !easysource
[04:26] <Mithology> i was hoping there was a site like that,i used easyurpmi for mdv
[04:26] <N6REJ> yep
[04:27] <N6REJ> any nfs/samba guru's around?
[04:28] <Kikkoman> Would someone be so kind as to help me with GRUB?
[04:28] <aegisthis> is the gnome 2.18 package available yet? and from where?
[04:29] <Kikkoman> I can't access Windows XP any more
[04:29] <Kikkoman> So obviously something is wrong ;A;
[04:29] <mjunx> aegisthis, gnome.org
[04:29] <mjunx> compile from source :P
[04:29] <Tonren> How do I un-keep all held back packages in Aptitude?
[04:30] <aegisthis> mjunx, so no official ubuntu package available?
[04:30] <mjunx> not yet, check back tomorrow maybe?
[04:30] <aegisthis> sweet as, thanx much
[04:30] <N6REJ> !grub | Kikkoman
[04:30] <ubotu> Kikkoman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:30] <Kikkoman> No no no
[04:30] <Kikkoman> It's not that
[04:30] <Kikkoman> I've lost Windows after installing GRUB
[04:31] <Kikkoman> erm Ubuntu
[04:31] <wheels3572> Where can i get adobe acrobat reader?
[04:31] <Kikkoman> I mean, when I select Windows XP Home Edition, it changes the screen, loads like, 2 lines of text, and then goes back to the GRUB menu
[04:31] <wheels3572> !adobe
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: ubuntu will become the default boot OS after installing... to get to xp you have to quickly ( 5 seconds ) hit the down arrow
[04:31] <N6REJ> possibly several times.
[04:31] <wheels3572> !acrobat reader
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: oh!
[04:32] <mjunx> !crobat
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: It's not that. I mean, I literally cannot access windows
[04:32] <mjunx> !carobat
[04:32] <Kikkoman> :D
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about carobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <N6REJ> gotcha now.
[04:32] <mjunx> well screw that
[04:32] <Kikkoman> Yeah
[04:32] <N6REJ> IF and thats a CAPITAL IF I'm remembering right this happens when you don't have a "/boot" partition.
[04:32] <Tonren> Anyone?  I feel like this shouldn't be hard.  I told Aptitude to "keep" some packages because the latest updates were unstable.  How do I tell it to "unkeep" stuff?
[04:33] <N6REJ> reinstall and make sure you assign a partition of around 200mb as "/boot"
[04:33] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: I have a /boot folder with /grub in it
[04:33] <N6REJ> yes, but is it a seperate parition?
[04:33] <N6REJ> or just /
[04:33] <Kikkoman> N6REJ, It may help to say that Ubuntu is on the slave drive while Windows is the master.
[04:34] <Kikkoman> I have about 7 gb of Unallocated space on the master
[04:34] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: this doesn't matter EXCEPT, you MUST have a "/boot" partition in that configuration and GRUB MUST live in the windows boot partition.
[04:34] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: you only need about 200mb and it doesn't matter where it lives.
[04:34] <Style-FilipBole> in minicom, under the configuration->serial port setup->Serial Device, what mean that /dev/tty8?
[04:34] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Umm... How do I check the partitions?
[04:35] <N6REJ> !boot
[04:35] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:35] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: And I said for GRUB to be installed on hd(0,1) which is the Windows partition
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Style-FilipBole,  thats the name of the serial device to use.   like the old com1 com2 of dos days
[04:35] <N6REJ> !dualboot | Kikkoman
[04:35] <brophat> is it true that we have to stay away from  ATI Radeon graphics cards?
[04:35] <N6REJ> read through those and they will likely explain it better then I am.
[04:36] <mjunx> brophat, you should, yeah
[04:36] <cyris> 1 month then 5.10 = by by hah
[04:36] <Dr_willis> brophat,  they can work and work ok.. but it is often a gamble.
[04:36] <wheels3572> jrib, hey do you know anything about Adobe acrobat reader?
[04:36] <h1st0> brophat: You don't have to stay away from them. Wre di you hear that.
[04:36] <N6REJ> cyris: god I'm getting old, I remember when it was the latest
[04:36] <Dr_willis> brophat,  they are getting better...  but still lacking in some areas.
[04:36] <h1st0> brophat: its just more of a pita to get them working.
[04:36] <cyris> N6REJ: 18 months old then eh ?
[04:36] <cyris> :D
[04:36] <N6REJ> lol
[04:36] <brophat> h1st0 i heard drivers only exist for nvidia stuff
[04:36] <Style-FilipBole> Dr_willis: aha, tnx... and what should be writen, if I want to set on com1?
[04:36] <N6REJ> cyris: I stated with RH 4
[04:36] <cliff> is ubotu borked?
[04:37] <N6REJ> borked?
[04:37] <cliff> broken.
[04:37] <N6REJ> nah
[04:37] <N6REJ> tired
[04:37] <cliff> anyone know the name of the meta packaged to get gcc and such.
[04:37] <Mithology> !easysource
[04:37] <h1st0> brophat: well better drivers exist for nvidia stuff but it is possible to install ati drivers.  Basically if you are looking at buying a card for nix.  I would go with nvidia.  Just based on were the driver development is geing done.
[04:37] <cliff> something build essentials
[04:37] <N6REJ> its having a caffiene withdrawl
[04:37] <cyris> N6REJ: rh 7 for me :P
[04:38] <h1st0> brophat: plus they are cheaper in most cases
[04:38] <N6REJ> cliff build-essentials if I remember right
[04:38] <adjioev> is there  a taskbar similar to mac for ubuntu?
[04:38] <h1st0> cliff: no ubotu is working fine.
[04:38] <cyris> build-essential
[04:38] <cliff> N6REJ: thanks, i was being dumb I thought there was more to it then that. aptitude search before I ask next time.
[04:38] <brophat> ok this is my problem. I have recently talked my brother into using ubuntu. I always make my own box so i pic my parts to make sure it is optomized for linux. My bro wants to buy an hp desktop but wants to makre sure first that it will work with ubuntu. How do we do that?
[04:38] <N6REJ> adious_: there can be yes
[04:38] <N6REJ> cliff np, we all have those days
[04:38] <cliff> h1st0: ive asked 2 questions and gotten nothing from him. oh maybe I need a voice. thanks
[04:39] <h1st0> brophat: there is a hardware list in the wiki some where.
[04:39] <crusoe> Need help getting Audigy working?
[04:39] <N6REJ> brophat: if its a new system it should be fine!
[04:39] <N6REJ> !hardware
[04:39] <h1st0> brophat: search wiki.ubuntu.com for hardware compatibility  or somehting like that.
[04:39] <adjioev> guys, is there  a taskbar similar to mac for ubuntu?
[04:39] <beta[a] > hey guys... i have several questions before i decide to install ubuntu
[04:39] <h1st0> !ask | beta[a]
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Style-FilipBole,  i aint used a modem in years..  im not sure how the com devices are enmuerated any more.. used to be /dev/ttyS0 and up.
[04:39] <brophat> I am not finding hardwre compat sites that list entire systems
[04:39] <N6REJ> adjioev: as I said yes, it requires some reasearch
[04:39] <beta[a] > first off... i have an nvidia card...  does ubuntu have nvidia accelleration for X?
[04:39] <VoX> beta[a] : yes
[04:40] <philoking> hello...got a beryl question for ya...
[04:40] <beta[a] > b/c i'm using suse
[04:40] <adjioev> N6REJ, sorry probably missed your post
[04:40] <N6REJ> brophat: look at the individual pieces from HP's site but as a general rule, np
[04:40] <beta[a] > and i have nvidia's drivers
[04:40] <h1st0> beta[a] : yes if you instal drivers.  Basiclaly instal the nvidia-glx package
[04:40] <philoking> why do I have to edit the xorg.conf and stuff to install beryl on ubuntu, I don't have to on fedora
[04:40] <beta[a] > GREAT
[04:40] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  you can install the nvidia drivers and get it.. yes..
[04:40] <Mithology> is beryl automatically installed by default ?
[04:40] <brophat> N6REJ ok
[04:40] <N6REJ> cliff:  ubuto is definetly on strike!
[04:40] <beta[a] > also...  how about upgrading the kernel...
[04:40] <beta[a] > apt-get kernel?
[04:40] <VoX> Mithology: no
[04:40] <brophat> N6REJ just that they don't specify too detailed there
[04:40] <Mithology> VoX, i didnt think so
[04:40] <Mithology> but its found in synaptic right ?
[04:40] <brophat> they just say DVD Player hahahaha
[04:40] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  what kernel do you need to upgrade to?
[04:40] <beta[a] > cuz i wanna run 2.6.20-3 for my core 2 duo
[04:40] <beta[a] > SMP support
[04:40] <h1st0> beta[a] : as long as you stay updated you wil have the most current kernel for that release
[04:41] <beta[a] > suse has a problem
[04:41] <beta[a] > with dual procs
[04:41] <VoX> er
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : if you wnt to install a newer kernel thats another story just like in any other distro.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> smp is in the default kernel i belive
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : nah smp support will work out of the box.
[04:41] <h1st0> Dr_willis: yes
[04:41] <VoX> beta[a] : i've got a dual-core opteron and it's running fine on 2.17.something
[04:41] <h1st0> Dr_willis: generic kernel has smp support built in.
[04:41] <beta[a] > well it did on suse... until i recompiled the kernel
[04:41] <beta[a] > and trust me... i know what i'm doing when it comes to that
[04:41] <N6REJ> brophat: here's the general golden rule fo r*nix.. if its running cutting edge hardware you will have problems.  If its running hardware 6-12 mo old, probably ok, greater then 12mo sb a no brainer.
[04:41] <h1st0> beta[a] : You won't have to with ubuntu.
[04:41] <ricky_> anyone knoe the lib that has the command play?
[04:41] <beta[a] > it just failed misserably and wouldn't recognize my second core
[04:42] <beta[a] > and all kernel options for SMP were enabled in suse...
[04:42] <beta[a] > that's why i'm just tired of it
[04:42] <N6REJ> beta[a] : there is a smp kernel
[04:42] <h1st0> beta[a] : nah ubuntu's generic kernel has support for SMP built in.
[04:42] <beta[a] > especially after recompiling the kernel under suse... always getting invalid module format on boot
[04:42] <VoX> heh
[04:42] <VoX> suse=fail
[04:42] <beta[a] > i know that
[04:42] <beta[a] > i was using it
[04:43] <beta[a] > and funny thing... out of the box suse install it worked
[04:43] <beta[a] > for dual proc
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : you can always boot to the install cd and check it out prior to instaling.
[04:43] <N6REJ> there's great idea, take the cd with you!
[04:43] <beta[a] > and then after compiling ndiswrapper for the kernel (inserting the module) and inserting nvidia into the kernel... dual proc stopped working
[04:43] <ricky_> anyone know the library's name that has the command play? to play music on the shell
[04:43] <Style-FilipBole> Dr_willis: ah ok ok... I want to connect on my ipaq for instal familiar... and it can be done only throgh serial connection :|
[04:43] <beta[a] > what window manager do you recommend?
[04:43] <brophat> N6REJ yeah i kind of know that rule. what do you think a cheap HP puter is running?
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : ubuntu doesn't work that way.
[04:43] <beta[a] > i'm used to GNOME + xgl on suse
[04:43] <h1st0> beta[a] : yeah use gnome then
[04:44] <beta[a] > but i want beryl
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : ubuntu desktop
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : thats fine you can get beryl running on gnome
[04:44] <N6REJ> dunno, been out of the hardware game a long time.
[04:44] <beta[a] > ok ok...
[04:44] <beta[a] > see... i mainly use slackware or bsd for my installs...  b/c i do commandline stuff
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : basically after you install just install the nvidia-glx package that will get your video card working.
[04:44] <Kikkoman> GRUB fail
[04:44] <Kikkoman> ;A;
[04:44] <beta[a] > linux has changed a WHOLE BUNCH
[04:44] <N6REJ> yep!
[04:44] <martalli1> My comp has a firewire card, but ubuntu does not seem to see it.  I checked BIOS and it is on.  Windows cxan see it
[04:44] <brophat> N6REJ ppl here mostly build there own?
[04:44] <h1st0> beta[a] : yeapers
[04:44] <beta[a] > since i used it last as a desktop OS
[04:44] <nick_> i tried to install the audio driver off the ASUS website and it totally screwed my sound up can someone help me get it back to default
[04:44] <beta[a] > i use it on all my servers
[04:44] <beta[a] > so no need for X
[04:44] <beta[a] > :)
[04:45] <brophat> anyone here running ubuntu on an HP desktop they wanna tell me about?
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Do you know how I can change the MBR?
[04:45] <N6REJ> brophat: thats kind of the *nix way yeah, but I would say its a pretty close split these days.
[04:45] <beta[a] > and one more question...
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: To use the Windows boot loader
[04:45] <Dr_willis> brophat,  given the shear # of varity of pc's that HP makes.. thats rather broad and general.. :)
[04:45] <N6REJ> Kikkoman: I would reinstall
[04:45] <beta[a] > i use ndiswrapper b/c i dont have support for my dell wifi 1500 (802.11n) card...
[04:45] <beta[a] > support in ubuntu?
[04:45] <tracy> is it possible that i can make my taskbars hide?
[04:45] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Can you guide me through the install this time?
[04:45] <h1st0> N6REJ: what is he trying to do?
[04:45] <cables> After I resume from standby or hibernate, my system runs hotter than it did before I put it in standby/hibernate. Any ideas why, and if so, how I could fix it/
[04:45] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is windows installed first?
[04:46] <N6REJ> h1st0: it didn't make a boot part and can't get xp to load
[04:46] <brophat> Dr_willis HP Pavilion a1520e series
[04:46] <Kikkoman> H1st0: Yes, it is on master
[04:46] <yipe> is there a way to make it so that when I type it's ALWAYS insert mode? I hate when I try to wedge somting in and it overwrites what I had previously written
[04:46] <Dr_willis> brophat,  may want to google for 'linux hp a1520e' and see what others say about it.
[04:46] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ubuntu is on slave
[04:46] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay well to fix xp boot to the xp cd and go to repair mode.  then type in fixmbr
[04:46] <beta[a] > suse as a desktop OS is TOO BULKY
[04:46] <beta[a] > and everyone keeps harping on ubuntu...
[04:46] <h1st0> Kikkoman: That will get xp working.
[04:46] <brophat> Dr_willis yeah tried that. i was hoping ubuntu had some kind of a list going
[04:47] <beta[a] > if i dont like ubuntu as the desktop OS, i'm gonna go back to FreeBSD
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: and if you want to fix grub just follow the link from ubotu
[04:47] <h1st0> !grub | Kikkoman
[04:47] <ubotu> Kikkoman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I have no XP cd, the computer didn't come with one
[04:47] <nick_> i tried to install the audio driver off the ASUS website and it totally screwed my sound up can someone help me get it back to default
[04:47] <Kikkoman> That link does no good to me
[04:47] <brophat> any one here running ubuntu on HP Pavilion a1520e ?
[04:47] <yipe> Berto, not really the place for that, try #ubuntu-offtopic,
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well then follow the first link from ubotu about recovering
[04:47] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yes it does.
[04:47] <N6REJ> #join /kubuntu
[04:47] <N6REJ> grrrrrrr
[04:47] <Kikkoman> No, it doesn't
[04:48] <beta[a] > so this apt-get stuff in ubuntu is like emerge for gentoo, right?
[04:48] <h1st0> Kikkoman: basically you have to boot to ubuntu install disk.  and reinstall grub.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> brophat,  given the shear # of pcs out there. :) there is a laptop forum. but
[04:48] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  its like apt-get :)
[04:48] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[04:48] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:48] <beta[a] > you know what i mean
[04:48] <tracy> is it possible that i can make my taskbars hide?
[04:48] <beta[a] > and i just want a nice, clean, os
[04:48] <yipe> beta[a] , yes, except without actually compiling the code again, instead you download and install a binary
[04:48] <nick_> tracy: yes
[04:48] <brophat> Dr_willis yeah looking for a desktop forum
[04:48] <h1st0> beta[a] : not really emerge you are building the packages with apt-get its downloading pakcages that are already built
[04:48] <nick_> right click pick properties then
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: I have the ubuntu cd in
[04:49] <tracy> ahh, i see it now!
[04:49] <nick_> then autohide
[04:49] <tracy> i must have overlooked, thanks nick_
[04:49] <h1st0> beta[a] : if you install a DE then you can use synaptic and just search for packages with a gui etc..
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Should I reinstall Ubuntu onto master HDD?
[04:49] <Kikkoman> N6REJ: Or should I use the option that says "Boot from first Hard Disk"
[04:49] <beta[a] > i dont need a gui
[04:49] <beta[a] > lol
[04:49] <h1st0> beta[a] : like I say download the ubuntu desktop iso if thats what you are after.  Then just boot to it as a live cd and check it out.
[04:50] <beta[a] > i installed ubuntu before... did not like the default install..
[04:50] <beta[a] > too brown
[04:50] <Kikkoman> oh
[04:50] <Kikkoman> He's not here
[04:50] <h1st0> beta[a] : well then you need to the server install iso if you don't want de
[04:50] <yipe> I bet you didn't like the default for FreeBSD either, colors are easily changed
[04:50] <Kikkoman> Can anyone help me through the Ubuntu install?
[04:50] <Pelo> beta[a] ,   try kubuntu , it's very blue
[04:50] <h1st0> Kikkoman: sure
[04:50] <h1st0> Kikkoman: You have windows installed on the first drive right?
[04:50] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Yes
[04:50] <beta[a] > LOL
[04:51] <Dr_willis> beta[a] ,  OH the humanity of it all.. its brown... egads! its the end of the world...  /scarasm off :)
[04:51] <h1st0> Kikkoman: and you just want to install to the second drive.
[04:51] <h1st0> Pelo: lol
[04:51] <beta[a] > i like the pretty colors
[04:51] <beta[a] > of suse
[04:51] <beta[a] > hhehe
[04:51] <beta[a] > but like i said - it's too bulky
[04:51] <Dr_willis> this is linux.. use what you like.. change what you dont.
[04:51] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Eh, I'll just put it on the same HDD as windows if it is any easier to dual boot
[04:51] <h1st0> beta[a] : well if the default color selection is stopping you????  all of that can be changed.
[04:51] <beta[a] > gentoo and slackware has been the best to me
[04:51] <Dr_willis> "The Power is Yours!"
[04:51] <beta[a] > no dude....
[04:52] <h1st0> Kikkoman: it would be just as easy to put it on the slave drive.
[04:52] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  if you are noobish enought that you want help installing ubuntu, do not try installing it on the same hdd as your windows install,  use another hdd
[04:52] <h1st0> Kikkoman: the only thing you have to worry about is which drive to select to install to.
[04:52] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ok then
[04:52] <Dr_willis> what is the name of that gnome tool that lets you browse/install themes and wallpapers from gnome-look.org...
[04:52] <JohnPhys> art manager?
[04:52] <Kikkoman> Pelo: This is my first time with Ubuntu :P
[04:52] <i3ooi3oo> ikonia you around ?
[04:52] <fervidfrogger> Has anyone tried the package xfishtank? It seems to be trying to remove all my other packages......
[04:52] <beta[a] > i know i can select new themes man
[04:52] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  the theme manager ?
[04:53] <h1st0> lol
[04:53] <Protostar> how does one mount a ext3 partition so that you can read AND write to it
[04:53] <h1st0> thats all I use.
[04:53] <mangojambo> hi there people ...
[04:53] <beta[a] > i just didn't know if it provided the functionality of emerge/XGl
[04:53] <h1st0> Protostar: in fstab?  or from terminal?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  theres some previwere/download tool
[04:53] <Protostar> i'm trying to save torrents to it, but the client says access denied
[04:53] <beta[a] > not /...  i meant AND
[04:53] <Kikkoman> h1st0: What does the "Boot from first hard disk" option do?
[04:53] <Protostar> fstab
[04:53] <h1st0> Protostar: mount /dev/whatever /media/nuggets
[04:53] <JohnPhys> Dr_willis: I think it's art manager
[04:53] <mangojambo> Ubuntu with 2 monitors ROX !! realy good!!
[04:53] <Kikkoman> h1st0: just out of curiousity :)
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !find gnomeart
[04:53] <h1st0> Kikkoman: when you computer turns on?
[04:53] <Pelo> Kikkoman,   same hdd or different one won't matter in usage much,   but doing on the window hdd will mean you will have to partition your windows hdd and you don't want to do that unless you realy know what you are doing,  it would screw up your windows install
[04:54] <ubotu> Package/file gnomeart does not exist in edgy
[04:54] <Protostar> the drive is already mounted in fstab
[04:54] <Protostar> its mounted usings the defaults option
[04:54] <beta[a] > well i'm gonna install ubuntu... and hopefully it's "pretty" with my 4 monitor setup
[04:54] <Kikkoman> Pelo: I have already partitioned first Hard drive so I have 7 gb of unallocated space
[04:54] <mangojambo> Someone here use Lirc ?
[04:54] <Pelo> Dr_willis, ,  ;you mean gnome-art manager &?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> gnome-art - install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org
[04:54] <h1st0> Protostar: well then you need to edit fstab to give you user options to rw
[04:54] <h1st0> !fstab | Protostar
[04:54] <Protostar> is there anything else i need to enable?
[04:54] <ubotu> Protostar: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:54] <Pelo> Kikkoman,  go to it then
[04:54] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I have the ubuntu cd in and I've gone into ubuntu
[04:55] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay.
[04:55] <Kikkoman> lol XP
[04:55] <alebak> hello everybody
[04:55] <h1st0> Protostar: no just look at the link from ubotu for some explanation
[04:56] <Pelo> hya doctor nick
[04:56] <Protostar> alright
[04:56] <Protostar> thanks
[04:56] <mangojambo> hello alebak
[04:56] <h1st0> np
[04:56] <fervidfrogger> Anyone tried xfishtank?
[04:56] <alebak> hi mangojambo how are you?
[04:56] <Pelo> fervidfrogger,  what is that ?
[04:57] <fervidfrogger> It seems to be removing all other pasckages
[04:57] <h1st0> !xfishtank | Pelo
[04:57] <ubotu> pelo: xfishtank: turns your X root into an aquarium. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2-23.1 (edgy), package size 83 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:57] <Kikkoman> h1st0: so I just opened the install program
[04:57] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeap
[04:57] <Kikkoman> It's a virtual aquarium?
[04:58] <mangojambo> alebak: pretty good ...thanx .. I'm trying to setup the lirc in my pc ..
[04:58] <fervidfrogger> When I tried it wanted to remove ALL other installed packages
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Kikkoman,  yea.. its not a very pretty one either. :)
[04:58] <Pelo> I have an actual aquarium,  I think I will forgo the virutal one
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Kikkoman,  and it may not work right with gnome or kde either.
[04:58] <h1st0> Not as pretty as the one in M$ PLUS
[04:58] <fervidfrogger> heh
[04:58] <alebak> mangojambo: what it's lirc?
[04:58] <alebak> is it client irc?
[04:58] <mangojambo> alebak: and having a Xingu ... black beer ... ;)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> !info lirc
[04:59] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[04:59] <h1st0> alebak: no its infrared
[04:59] <alebak> oooo
[04:59] <Kikkoman> h1st0 it is on the "Select a disk" page
[04:59] <h1st0> alebak: so you can use a remote with your pc etc...
[04:59] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay what are your options?
[04:59] <bruenig> Let's say I am creating a deb that will work on any architecture, what do I put for the Architecture part of the control file
[04:59] <Pelo> ohhhh,  gnome 2.18 is out
[04:59] <bruenig> can I put ALL
[04:59] <alebak> umm... lirc is equals a VNC?
[05:00] <h1st0> bruenig: all
[05:00] <Kikkoman> h1st0: /dev/hda:IDE1 master (hda)
[05:00] <bruenig> h1st0, lowercase or does it matter
[05:00] <h1st0> Kikkoman: K that should be the windows drive
[05:00] <Kikkoman> h1st0: /dev/hdb:IDE1 slave(hdb)
[05:00] <Kikkoman> use the largest continuous free space
[05:00] <h1st0> bruenig: that I don't know.   But i've seen multi arch packages are set with all  I'm sure the case matters
[05:00] <Kikkoman> and Manually edit partition table
[05:00] <mangojambo> alebak: no .. :) to use with remote control ... but the my Pixelview RC are "working", without configuration ... like... when I press the Power button, the Power off dialog apears ... lol
[05:01] <Kikkoman> Yeah, first one is Windows hd
[05:01] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay you want to select /dev/hdb  that would be your slave drive.
[05:01] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:01] <Kikkoman> Prepare disk space
[05:01] <Kikkoman> h1st0: By the way, I've already installed ubuntu on this hd, now it's just reinstall :D
[05:02] <Kikkoman> So, prepare disk space
[05:02] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yes
[05:02] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Resize IDE1 slave partition #2 and use freed space, Erase entire disk and manually edit partition table
[05:03] <h1st0> Kikkoman: erase entire disk
[05:03] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:03] <h1st0> Kikkoman: isn't there an option for guided partitioning?
[05:03] <hendaus> hello
[05:03] <Kikkoman> I'm not sure
[05:03] <Kikkoman> There wasn't one that actually said "Guided partitioning"
[05:03] <hendaus> i need a help
[05:04] <Pelo> hendaus,  what with
[05:04] <Ltar> how do I move /tmp/neogeo.zip to /usr/share/games/xmame/roms ?
[05:04] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Where should GRUB be installed?
[05:04] <Pelo> Ltar,   gksu nautilus
[05:04] <h1st0> Kikkoman: mbr of /dev/hda
[05:04] <Kikkoman> h1st0: What do I put in the box? :P
[05:04] <hendaus> Pelo, i try several times to make a vcd by file.DAT and cannot work
[05:04] <h1st0> Kikkoman: I can't see your screen what is on it?
[05:05] <Ltar> Pelo: thank you
[05:05] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:05] <Kikkoman> h1st0: do you want me to take a picture of it and post it on the web
[05:05] <Pelo> hendaus,  try looking in the forum for a howto
[05:05] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well i'm on a terminal based pc right now so I wouldn't be able to see it.
[05:05] <h1st0> Kikkoman: hold up a sec let me switch computerse
[05:05] <h1st0> brb
[05:05] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:06] <Kikkoman> lol terminal
[05:07] <Ltar> pelo: Something went wrong, gksu nautilus launched nautilus, but I still don't have the permissions
[05:07] <Ltar> pelo what's the syntax for the mv command? I assume mv is the correct command for moving a file?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> man mv
[05:08] <Ltar> doh. of course
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Usage: mv [OPTION] ... [-T]  SOURCE DEST
[05:08] <Dr_willis> mv --help :)
[05:08] <Pelo> Ltar,  Ltar  sudo cp /tmp/neogeo.zip /user"share/games/xmame/roms/neogeo.zip
[05:08] <Dr_willis> mv sourcefile destfile
[05:08] <Pelo> Ltar,  make sure I go the paths right
[05:08] <h1st0> Kikkoman: okay now post a screenshot to like www.imageshack.us or something.
[05:09] <LightCatcher> Can I download and burn a copy of edgy while running ubuntu live dapper(off the cd)?
[05:09] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  you might have a space problem but other then that ,  sure
[05:09] <Ltar> Pelo: thank you, it was close enough for me to figure it out. and now I know the syntax
[05:10] <h1st0> LightCatcher: how much mmeory do you have.
[05:10] <roxy|wk> can anyone give me a link of flash_player_7 for linux, cus linux_player_9 does not support opera
[05:10] <Kikkoman> h1st0: one second, uploading
[05:10] <Pelo> roxy|wk,  google
[05:10] <roxy|wk> spam
[05:10] <Pelo> hardly
[05:11] <LightCatcher> I'm checking the device manager for my memory...
[05:11] <Kikkoman> http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9872/suc50478lm6.jpg
[05:11] <Kikkoman> h1st0: http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9872/suc50478lm6.jpg
[05:11] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  you could try mounting a hdd and saving to that
[05:11] <h1st0> LightCatcher: just typing top in a terminal would show you.
[05:11] <roxy|wk> i hate google while searching for a soft download
[05:11] <Kikkoman> lol
[05:12] <cyclops> hmm, hopefully someone can help me here. i am a fedora user but one of my friends online had been raving to me about the goodness of ubuntu so i thought i would give it a try. so far only thing i can find is a 700 meg live cd. isn't there a dvd that has more packages etc with it? or do i need to install them using apt?
[05:12] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeah hit install that should be right.
[05:12] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Ok
[05:12] <LightCatcher> right now 637260k free
[05:13] <h1st0> Kikkoman: btw you could have taken a screenshot hitting printscreen and just used that computer to upload the image
[05:13] <Kikkoman> h1st0: When this is finished, will I be able to access windows again?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> cyclops,  you dont need the dvd.. there IS a dvd.. but dont mess with it.
[05:13] <Pelo> cyclops,  tthere is a dvd, just look for in on torrentz
[05:13] <h1st0> LightCatcher: gunna be close. like Pelo said you could mount a harddrive and save it there.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> cyclops,  at this time everything has had so many updates.. its proberly better to stick with the cd and isntall what you need from the net.
[05:13] <h1st0> LightCatcher: other option is downloadin the netinstall image which is only 7mb iso.  then it would download all the packages while you installed.
[05:13] <Pelo> cyclops,  the live dvd does the same install as the cd ,  and you can get the extra packages online if you need more stuff then what is on the cd
[05:14] <Speakup> How do you recover from a 'pannel already found' error, and then you lose the menubars..and so on?
[05:14] <Kikkoman> h1st0: lol, Ubuntu can't access web, and will I be able to access windows xp when I'm done?
[05:14] <h1st0> Speakup: restarting gnome-panel?  or restarting X
[05:14] <orehon> hey, how can i configure my sound modules? Where is alsaconf?
[05:14] <Speakup> I tried that.. didn't help.
[05:14] <h1st0> Kikkoman: if all goes well if not we can fix that.
[05:14] <cyclops> Dr_willis, aah okay. i'll just use the live cd then. figure i would check out ubuntu. been a die hard RH man since RH5 but haven't really LOOKED at any other distros in 5+ years
[05:14] <Kikkoman> :D
[05:15] <Pelo> orehon,  try looking for help in the forum
[05:15] <LightCatcher> h1sto/pelo: I think I'll try mounting the hdd.
[05:15] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  that's your best bet
[05:16] <h1st0> Kikkoman: assuming everything goes right when you restart your computer it should come up with a grub menu then you can select ubuntu or windows to boot to.
[05:16] <Pelo> LightCatcher,  anything but a NTFS partition btw
[05:16] <cyclops> btw what does ubuntu use for a boot loader? lilo or grub?
[05:16] <LightCatcher> thanks for your help, I'll see if I can figure it out on my own first :)
[05:16] <h1st0> cyclops: grub
[05:16] <nu-> Toma-: you here?
[05:17] <GMWeezel> Will GNOME 2.18 be available for Dapper Drake?
[05:17] <eonnen> so, would this be the correct forum for asking questions about etch network automatic installation problems, or is that more of a debian issue?
[05:17] <h1st0> GMWeezel: not in the main repos
[05:17] <i3ooi3oo> how can i get details on a package?
[05:17] <GMWeezel> h1st0: What repos can I get it from?
[05:17] <nu-> Anyone had problems installing ubuntu with 8800 series gpu?
[05:18] <h1st0> GMWeezel: No idea.  Don't they feature freeze software?  The only updates should be security fixes.
[05:18] <crdlb> nu-, I think you'll need newer nvidia drivers than are in edgy
[05:18] <h1st0> i3ooi3oo: apt-cache showpkg <packagename>
[05:18] <GMWeezel> h1st0: I don't know how those kinds of things work.
[05:18] <nu-> what is edgy?
[05:18] <frantic_> Hi, does anyone know anything about dnsmasq?
[05:18] <h1st0> i3ooi3oo: or look for it in synaptic and right click on it and go to properties
[05:18] <nu-> !edgy
[05:18] <h1st0> nu-: a version of ubuntu.
[05:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:18] <nu-> Right
[05:18] <Kikkoman> !warty
[05:18] <ubotu> warty was the first release of Ubuntu. Version 4.10, codename "Warty Warthog"
[05:18] <nu-> i have edgy then. but it doenst work
[05:18] <Kikkoman> Oh
[05:19] <nu-> I put the cd in
[05:19] <nu-> then it gives me error, x cannot be started
[05:19] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is that what you are installing?
[05:19] <Kikkoman> no
[05:19] <h1st0> k
[05:19] <Kikkoman> It's edgy
[05:19] <Pelo> nu-,  might a borked cd
[05:19] <nu-> ?
[05:19] <h1st0> nu-: try safe graphics mode
[05:19] <nu-> i did, same thing h1st0
[05:19] <h1st0> nu-: hrm.. what kind of video card and do youg et errors when X is trying to start?
[05:20] <h1st0> nu-: other option is the alternate iso or the netinstall iso.  Both would be text based installers.
[05:20] <nu-> h1st0: 8800gtx, Log file: http://paste2.org/p/1878 and my xorg.conf-> http://paste2.org/p/1879
[05:20] <Kikkoman> :o
[05:20] <Kikkoman> I just realized that wubi uses the feisty alternate iso
[05:21] <Kikkoman> lol
[05:21] <nu-> well h1st0, but if i text install, would i be able to use X when installed?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> an alternavie 'text' install will setup X.
[05:21] <h1st0> nu-: assuming you get the proper drivers  who makes the card nvidia?
[05:21] <bruenig> when you install something via dpkg, where does it store the deb, I know with apt it is /var/cache/apt/archives/ but where for dpkg
[05:21] <nu-> i did go through x setup
[05:21] <tidron> aight newbie question
[05:22] <nu-> i did dpgkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[05:22] <frantic_> gah
[05:22] <nu-> then i ddi startx
[05:22] <nu-> but as you can see in the log, i get a fatal error: no screen found
[05:22] <tidron> looking for a desktop widget engine like Yahoo Widget Engine for Ubuntu
[05:22] <tidron> anyone have any suggestions
[05:22] <voidmage> tidron: superkaramba?
[05:22] <h1st0> nu-: well select vesa instead of nv for the driver see if that works.
[05:22] <voidmage> or is that kde?
[05:22] <h1st0> nu-: to atleast get X going.
[05:22] <Pelo> bruenig,  doesn't dpkg imply that you arleardy hve the deb ?
[05:22] <bruenig> Pelo, yeah it does, I just wondered if it stored it somewhere else
[05:23] <Pelo> tidron, ,  gdesklets
[05:23] <frantic_> Does anyone know anything about dnsmasq
[05:23] <nu-> h1st0: what's VESA?
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver section to Driver     "vesa"
[05:23] <Pelo> bruenig,  that wouldnT' make much sense to me but hold on , I have a few
[05:23] <frantic_> vesa is framebuffer, not 3D accelerated but very reliable
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: generic driver so to say.
[05:23] <nu-> so the onboard driver?
[05:23] <MostKnown53> hey whats the name of that version of ubuntu that uses kde
[05:23] <bruenig> Pelo, because when I do apt-cache show package, it still shows the description, where is it getting that description, it certainly isn't getting it from the deb because I deleted it after I installed it
[05:23] <frantic_> no...
[05:23] <nu-> oh wow
[05:23] <nu-> you knwo what h1st0
[05:23] <h1st0> nu-: no.... its just going to use generic driver instead of the nvidia one.
[05:24] <nu-> i think i know the problem
[05:24] <nu-> oh ok, nvm
[05:24] <Kikkoman> MostKnown53: I think it's edgy but don't take my word for it
[05:24] <nu-> i disabled onboard gpu in bios
[05:24] <nu-> a long time ago
[05:24] <nu-> you think that could be it?
[05:24] <MostKnown53> i just dont like gnome as a gui
[05:24] <nu-> and then once in, install 8800gtx driver?
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: yeah that shouldn't be the issue the issue is that your card is so new the nv driver doesn't support it.
[05:24] <nu-> h1st0: okay
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: or you could install the nvidia driver now.
[05:24] <h1st0> nu-: a better one that is.
[05:25] <nu-> ?
[05:25] <nu-> im thinking of using vesa like you said
[05:25] <h1st0> nu-: the "nv" driver is a free driver.  the non free version may have support for your card. and by free meaning license not the cost.
[05:25] <eonnen> so no experience out there with network installs of edgy?
[05:25] <nu-> where can i get this nonfree version
[05:25] <reaspired> how can I install xvid encoding support
[05:25] <Pelo> bruenig,  doesn'T seem to find any cache for the deb packages on my file system
[05:26] <h1st0> nu-: its in the repos.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:26] <h1st0> nu-: or you can use the drive directly from nvidia's site.
[05:26] <bruenig> Pelo, it appears to store stuff in /var/lib/dpkg, not the deb though. I just wonder where it is getting these descriptions
[05:26] <frantic_> you should probably do the apt-get one
[05:26] <h1st0> eonnen: yeah why whats up.
[05:26] <nu-> h1st0: ill use aptget since im in text mode
[05:27] <Pelo> eonnen,   try in the forum, I am sure you will find a howto in there
[05:27] <nu-> h1st0: or shoudl i try vesa first, then if it works, download the 8800 driver from the web?
[05:27] <h1st0> nu-: well try vesa first.  Because isn't this just the install cd you are trying to get working?
[05:27] <hendaus> helpers, is there a vcdgear for kubuntu?
[05:28] <h1st0> !vcdgear
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcdgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <eonnen> i've followed the howto to the letter, isn't working for me. specifically i suspect it's a problem with the kbd-chooser append param
[05:28] <Kikkoman> h1st0:94% :D
[05:28] <h1st0> eonnen: which howto are you using the mini.iso or trying like pxe boot or something?
[05:28] <h1st0> Kikkoman: k
[05:28] <eonnen> yes, pxe boot
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: hrm.. well I only have experience witht he mini.iso
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: does the computer have a cdrom?
[05:29] <eonnen> after kbd selection, works like a charm but that won't automate despide preseed values and multiple kernel appends
[05:29] <eonnen> yes
[05:29] <hendaus> Pelo, vcdgear program for linux
[05:29] <eonnen> but not necessarily an accessable one :)
[05:29] <Kikkoman> is it supposed to remove xresprobe
[05:29] <Pelo> hendaus,  what ?
[05:29] <jrandolph> i'm trying to get my ati graphics card working in ubuntu, and i just used envy to install it... but fglrxinfo still doesn't display ATI information...
[05:29] <h1st0> eonnen: hrm.. perhaps someone else may be able to help you more.
[05:30] <omeil> is open office capable of running microsoft office 2003 documents? because i can open one of the documents but a table isn't showing up
[05:30] <h1st0> eonnen: or there is always ubuntuforums.org
[05:30] <Pelo> hendaus,  are you trying to make a vcd ? try devede
[05:30] <hendaus> Pelo,  how can i get vcdgear for linux?
[05:30] <eonnen> h1st0: thanks for listening
[05:30] <GionnyBoss> nu-: if you go to this page http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#nVidia you get instructions on how to install the beta nvidia drivers... they work very good and faster, give it a try. You can use the generic vesa driver just to log in and do what this tutorial says to install the driver.
[05:30] <h1st0> nu-: is this the install cd you are trying to get working?
[05:30] <frantic_> jrandolf
[05:30] <i3ooi3oo> how can i change a symlink ?
[05:30] <LadyNikon> yay the move to 6.10 worked so far :)
[05:30] <frantic_> open a terminal
[05:30] <jrandolph> k
[05:30] <Pelo> hendaus,   don't know,  try looking in synaptic if not there try the vcdgear site for a package
[05:30] <eonnen> h1st0: thx. will try there
[05:30] <frantic_> grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <h1st0> GionnyBoss: I believe he is just trying to get the install cd working so installing proper drivers is mute at this point.
[05:31] <jrandolph> Driver "fglrx"
[05:31] <hendaus> Pelo,  where can i find it, i am newbie friend :)
[05:31] <Pelo> hendaus,  are you trying to make a vcd ?
[05:31] <pchilds> I found a workaround supposedly for enabling 5.1 surround sound support in my sound card. Last time I tried it edgy would not reload. Is there a workaround to support my sound card to support surround sound instead of just two speakers? I have a soundblaster live card if that helps
[05:31] <hendaus> h1st0, yes ic ubotu doesnot found it :(
[05:31] <Kikkoman> h1st0: restart, right?
[05:31] <LadyNikon> ah downloading at 157kB/s
[05:31] <frantic_> grep Composite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <hendaus> Pelo,  yes
[05:32] <GionnyBoss> h1st0: ah ok, sorry
[05:32] <jrandolph> Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[05:32] <Kikkoman> h1st0
[05:32] <GionnyBoss> h1st0: but the driver I suggested him just rocks! :)
[05:32] <frantic_> did you ... restart?
[05:32] <jrandolph> yeah
[05:32] <frantic_> hmm
[05:32] <Pelo> hendaus,  menu > system > admin > synaptic,  enable all the repos and then do a search for devede , use that , it is the easiest way I know to make a vcd in ubuntu
[05:33] <hendaus> Pelo,  i have it
[05:33] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Should I restart?
[05:33] <nu-> Is there a 64bit version of edgy?
[05:33] <Kikkoman> I think so
[05:33] <frantic_> can you message me your entire xorg.conf file?
[05:33] <frantic_> or is that not allowed on this server
[05:33] <nu-> i couldnt find it
[05:33] <jrandolph> nu- yeah, but i'd suggest going for the 32 bit version anyway
[05:33] <hendaus> Pelo,  but it doesnot works fine the file.DAT
[05:33] <nu-> why?
[05:33] <h1st0> Kikkoman: is it done?
[05:33] <Kikkoman> h1st0: yes
[05:33] <omeil> frantic_, maybe in PM should be ok
[05:34] <h1st0> Kikkoman: yeah restart take out the cd and give it a whirl
[05:34] <nu-> jrandolph: howcome?
[05:34] <Pelo> hendaus,  start from the actual video file
[05:34] <Kikkoman> h1st0: do I need to do anything special after restarting?
[05:34] <Kikkoman> besides removing cd
[05:34] <jrandolph> i tried the 64 bit version and it gave me a lot of problems... for example i couldn't get flash to work in firefox
[05:34] <h1st0> Kikkoman: it should come up with a grub menu hopefully then you just select ubuntu or windows
[05:34] <jrandolph> and in the 32 bit version it's just no problem
[05:34] <frantic_> also
[05:34] <omeil> I can't get runescape to run
[05:34] <Kikkoman> ok
[05:34] <nu-> jrandolph: alright. thanks for the advice
[05:34] <frantic_> glxinfo | grep direct
[05:34] <omeil> i installed Java but RS isn't detecting it for some reason
[05:34] <fervidfrogger> What browser?
[05:34] <FocusedEnergy> good day, I have just now install the most recent ubuntu, so far so good
[05:34] <omeil> Firefox
[05:34] <hendaus> Pelo,  i try manythings from devede and doesnot convert the .DAT to MPEG!
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> I am running an amd 4400+ x2
[05:35] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy, , welcome to the madhouse
[05:35] <Kikkoman> :D Congratsm FocusedEnergy
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> and have an asus geforce 6800 ultra
[05:35] <fervidfrogger> omeil: Did you use the SUN site or a another downloader such as EasyUnbutnu?
[05:35] <pchilds> It is a madhouse. lol
[05:35] <jrandolph> frantic_ i opened a private thingy with you... glxinfo | grep direct gives me:
[05:35] <FocusedEnergy> I am wondering if in using envy, I need to have a different kernel than generic
[05:35] <jrandolph> direct rendering: No
[05:35] <i3ooi3oo> how can i change a symlink ? it points to the wrong file i need to correct it
[05:35] <jrandolph> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:35] <Pelo> hendaus,  try opening the dat file in avidemux and converting it from there
[05:35] <omeil> fervidfrogger, i did both, umm the sun one is with the .bin file installation right?
[05:35] <frantic_> hmm
[05:35] <h1st0> FocusedEnergy: no
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i3ooi3oo,  depete it and remake it.
[05:35] <fervidfrogger> yeah
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i always get links bakwards
[05:36] <h1st0> FocusedEnergy:well I dunno what their script is doing.
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: It doesn't have XP
[05:36] <fervidfrogger> Mine works fine
[05:36] <orehon> How can i get my internal microphone working? i have a HP DV 2120us laptop...
[05:36] <hendaus> Pelo,  wait
[05:36] <jrandolph> frantic_ do you still want to take a look at my xorg.conf file in the private room?
[05:36] <FocusedEnergy> h1st0: so the default 32 bit kernel is fine
[05:36] <h1st0> Kikkoman: did it have ubuntu?
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: only the system recovery ;A;
[05:36] <omeil> fervidfrogger, hmm weird. im not sure what i can do atm.
[05:36] <Kikkoman> h1st0: yes, it did
[05:36] <frantic_> i never got anything about a private room
[05:36] <FocusedEnergy> the script downloads the drivers from nvidia and configures xorg
[05:36] <h1st0> Kikkoman: so it had system recovery as the only option?
[05:36] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy,  the generic kernel is just a bogus install kernel that installs the kernell you need for your system , it is not so much generic
[05:36] <blanky> hey guys, I went to 'install updates' and it says 'not all updates could be installed, run distribution upgrade', so I do, and I get an error, anyone know what to do?
[05:36] <fervidfrogger> Can you get to the Java console?
[05:36] <hendaus> Pelo,  cannot :(
[05:37] <Kikkoman> h1st0: should I try the system recovery feature?
[05:37] <FocusedEnergy> Pelo: thank you for the clarification
[05:37] <omeil> fervidfrogger, Java in terminal?
[05:37] <frantic_> you installed the drivers from the repositories right?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> It might show a problem?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> AThe java terminal
[05:37] <frantic_> although i don't think your display would be working if you had not
[05:37] <Pelo> hendaus,  try looking for help on "converting dat " or dat2mpg  in the forum ,  that is the best I can do for you
[05:37] <frantic_> so yes it's gotta be your xorg.conf file
[05:37] <hendaus> Pelo,  can u find me the vcdgear please
[05:37] <omeil> Sun JAva 5.0 webstart?
[05:37] <frantic_> maybe try pastebin
[05:37] <jrandolph> i tried the repositories, but it didn't work... so i used envy... and i'm really just getting the same problem
[05:37] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix in for cupsys that has been released for Feisty will be backported to edgy?
[05:37] <fervidfrogger> Yeah
[05:37] <Kikkoman> h1st0: the system recovery was the only other operating system; it was isted under "Win NT/2000/XP" But it booted to compaq sys recovery
[05:37] <Kikkoman> erm
[05:37] <Pelo> hendaus,  hold on
[05:38] <fervidfrogger> Whatever the thing is called
[05:38] <Kikkoman> It was the only one under "Other operating systems"
[05:38] <h1st0> Kikkoman: arghh.  That be the problem.
[05:38] <h1st0> Kikkoman: well selecting that will allow you to fix windows
[05:38] <hendaus> Pelo,  i found one user update vcdgear and then k3b works fine
[05:38] <frantic_> http://pastebin.com/
[05:38] <hendaus> Pelo,  ok
[05:38] <omeil> fervidfrogger, yeah it starts the Java Application cache Viewer
[05:38] <Kikkoman> h1st0: Should I do it? It will just install windows again on the first hd
[05:39] <Pelo> hendaus,  I can' t find anything on vcdgear, sorry, you are on your own
[05:39] <Kikkoman> h1st0: I think it would probably help
[05:40] <jrandolph> i tried to send it to you through xchat frantic... should i use pastebin?
[05:40] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: but whats the problem? Are you sure that Windows doesn't work anymore? Maybe you can just add the correct line in grub configuration if Ubuntu didn't do it on his own
[05:40] <frantic_> yes cuz i didn't get it
[05:40] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix released in Feisty for cupsys will be backported to edgy?
[05:40] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Windows isn't even a choice in GRUB
[05:40] <jrandolph> whoah, i've never used this before. i just copy the text and hit send, and it gets publicly dispalyed?
[05:41] <frantic_> pretty much
[05:41] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: that doesn't matter. Was windows installed correctly before you installed ubuntu?
[05:41] <h1st0> GionnyBoss: it found his recovery partition instead of the windows partition.
[05:41] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Yes it was
[05:41] <Kikkoman> Exactly
[05:41] <jrandolph> thanks for trying to help me
[05:41] <Kikkoman> recovery partition is the first partition on the master drive
[05:41] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: do you know the partition in which Windows is installed?
[05:41] <Kikkoman> hd0,1
[05:42] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It's the master drive, second partition
[05:42] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and I guess that in that partition there's only Windows and no other booting operative systems, right?
[05:42] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: In the Windows partition, there is only windows
[05:42] <jrandolph> well, pastebin is working on it. does it normally take this long?
[05:42] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: you can do gedit boot/grub/menu.lst and manually add an entry for windows
[05:42] <frantic_> aw crap this is taking forever
[05:42] <frantic_> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <frantic_> try that
[05:43] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Ok
[05:43] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: sorry... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:43] <RudyValencia> Hello.
[05:43] <Kikkoman> crap
[05:43] <RudyValencia> I forgot what I was about to type.  My english is not so good :P
[05:44] <Zaphar_home> what are the chances that a fix released in Feisty for cupsys will be backported to edgy?
[05:44] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It means something has gone terribly wrong
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: why?
[05:45] <sambel> guys, I have Pentium mmx 233 mhz with 64 M ram, and 2,1 Gb HD and want to make it as a router. What debian dist should i use? with that kind of hardware
[05:45] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I did the unthinkable by using system restore
[05:45] <Kikkoman> Now it will just have to wait a minute ;A;
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: system restore for what? Windows?
[05:45] <hosk> how do i check what version of libc i have?
[05:45] <Kikkoman> Yes
[05:46] <hosk> or if i even have a libc; gcc can't seem to find stdio.h
[05:46] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: you don't need that. The problem is just that Ubuntu maybe didn't find your windows partition automatically. It could happen. Just add the correct lines in grub configuration.
[05:46] <Kikkoman> Erm
[05:46] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: Too late now ;A;
[05:46] <frantic_> i don't see what's wrong with this
[05:46] <jrandolph> doh
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: be aware that if Windows is not in the first partition of first drive, you have to use command "map" to invert partition order, so windows can be on the first partition of first hard drive
[05:47] <frantic_> hey jrandolf
[05:47] <jrandolph> yeah
[05:47] <frantic_> randolph
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: there are a lot of examples if you search with google, it's easy to do
[05:47] <frantic_> i'm going to make a "fix"
[05:47] <jrandolph> hehe
[05:47] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I actually won't be able to do anything with that computer for about 20 minutes :|
[05:47] <jrandolph> the quotes make me feel safe
[05:47] <Kikkoman> It is recovering Windows XP and application files
[05:48] <hosk> #include <stdio.h> doesnt work; do i need to install glibc?
[05:48] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: ok, I see. Well, when it will finish, just edit the file I told you. :)
[05:48] <Zaphar_home> hosk: probably
[05:48] <frantic_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10437/
[05:48] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: :) Ok
[05:49] <jrandolph> what did you change?
[05:49] <frantic_> if you look in the device section i added that PCI:1:0:0:" line
[05:49] <Zaphar_home> anyone on here familiar with cupsys package?
[05:49] <mdaddy> I had to install edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:49] <jrandolph> so i'll make a backup, and then restart my computer. and if it's hosed, i can reload this file... that shold work right?
[05:49] <frantic_> yes definitely make a backup
[05:49] <frantic_> but i don't think it'll make things worse
[05:50] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and if Windows doesn't start, you have to do this "map" thing... For example, I have Windows on HD1 and so I did 'map (hd0) (hd1)' and then 'map (hd1) (hd0)'. Doing this, Windows will think that he is in the first partition of first drive and it will start with no problem.
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> seems my system is hiccupy...
[05:50] <hosk> but i already have libc6
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I am trying to do a sudo command
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I am using the same password I used to log into the system
[05:50] <jbwan> evening
[05:50] <FocusedEnergy> I keep getting sorry, try again
[05:50] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: I know windows will start though, because it is installing it :D
[05:50] <Kikkoman> But thank you for the advice
[05:51] <jrandolph> right-o, i'm off
[05:51] <Zaphar_home> hosk: you need the dev package if you are going to use include files. Check to make sure you have the dev package installed. It's possible you only have the binary libs which doesn't include the header files
[05:51] <jrandolph> thanks for your help frantic_
[05:51] <jbwan> Does anyone know how to edit the desktop context menu in Gnome?
[05:51] <frantic_> good luck
[05:51] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: the problem is that if you are installing Windows, maybe it will write on MBR and you won't be able to boot Ubuntu after Windows installation
[05:51] <hosk> Zaphar_home, linux-libc-dev?
[05:51] <crdlb> jbwan, it's not possible
[05:51] <jbwan> I'm trying to modify it to be fluxbox-ish with the ability to have my panels and desktop icons ... and I just like Gnome :)
[05:52] <jbwan> crdlb: not at all?  Bummer
[05:52] <hosk> Zaphar_home, that wasn't installed, i'll try that, thanks!
[05:52] <Zaphar_home> hosk: yes for any library if you want to compile a packag that uses it you need the *-dev package
[05:52] <Zaphar_home> hosk: as a general rule anyway
[05:52] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: I'm afraid that you will have to re-install Ubuntu or search with google how can you restore GRUB after Windows installation
[05:52] <FocusedEnergy> so my sudo commands worked before ubuntu did its autoupdate thing...now after restarting...sudo + my pass won't work
[05:52] <FocusedEnergy> any ideas?
[05:52] <Flannel> !grub | Kikkoman, first link
[05:52] <ubotu> Kikkoman, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: you're not trying to log in with sudo are you?
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> no
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> I am trying to apt-get install -f
[05:53] <FocusedEnergy> I logged on fine though
[05:53] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: su to root and check /etc/sudoers
[05:53] <jbwan> make sure you're still set up in it
[05:54] <Pelo> FocusedEnergy,   in linux case is important, make sure caplock isn't on
[05:54] <blanky> Pelo: it's called case sensitivity :)
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> jbwan, Pelo: the caps are off
[05:54] <Zaphar_home> now that I've helped hosk I need someone's help getting cupsys fixed. I really don't want to try compiling a package that's a part of the repositories... That way lies insanity and many long nights
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> this worked like 4 minutes ago, just before my start
[05:54] <jbwan> Pelo: If FE is able to log in do you think there is a caps lock issue?  Possibility I suppose
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> now su does not work
[05:54] <FocusedEnergy> I was only ever asked for one password
[05:54] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: su wouldn't work.  sudo will
[05:54] <jbwan> FocusedEnergy: tail /etc/sudoers
[05:54] <bill57785> ok, I screwed up when resizing my ubuntu partition (I used windows to do it)
[05:55] <jbwan> Flannel: I use su all the time to log in with root
[05:55] <bill57785> now I am running the live cd to try and fix it
[05:55] <jbwan> bill57785: Try GParted
[05:55] <Pelo> jbwan,  what make you think he didn't do anything between the login and now
[05:55] <bill57785> the partition manager can't figure out the file type for that partition though
[05:55] <jrandolph> frantic_ nope, no good... so something weird i've noticed. when i run glxgears they spin pretty fast for like half a second, then they slow awy down
[05:55] <Flannel> jbwan: You've enabled root.  By default, root is locked, and please don't advocate people set a root password in this channel (not that you werE)
[05:55] <bill57785> am I screwed?
[05:55] <jbwan> Pelo: always a possibility
[05:55] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: sudo -i not sudo su
[05:55] <frantic_> one sec
[05:56] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: sudo su works also
[05:56] <FocusedEnergy> jbwan: tail does not work because I am not root, nor can I issue the sudo
[05:56] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: sudo -i is better, and recommended.
[05:56] <jbwan> Flannel: I find it better to set root and make my own account a regular user... but that's just personal preference
[05:56] <mdaddy> I had to install edgy piece by piece from the command-line, and thus none of the user groups/permissions were created that I guess would normally have been created by the installer.  How do I get them created?
[05:56] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: type "groups", are you in admin?
[05:56] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: I'll remember that
[05:56] <Flannel> jbwan: that's fine.  Please don't recommend it here.
[05:56] <FocusedEnergy> how will I know if I am in admin?
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> if I see it listed?
[05:57] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: it'll list "admin" in the group listing
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> yes
[05:57] <cables> My system runs hotter after being suspended and resumed than it does before it gets suspended and resumed. Does anyone have any ideas why?
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> then I am in there
[05:57] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: I see it listed
[05:57] <frantic_> open synaptic
[05:57] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: Go to a new TTY (ctrl-alt-F#, ctrl-alt-F7 to get back), and try logging in.  Does it work?
[05:58] <cafuego_> cables: suspend+resume probably breaks acpi; so the cpu won't throttle.
[05:58] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty
[05:58] <cables> cafuego_, according to the gnome applet, it's throttling just fine
[05:58] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes I just did as you suggested and I was able to get a prompt
[05:58] <FocusedEnergy> I'm logged in in that other term
[05:58] <kraypius> I am having a problem. I was forced to reinstall windows. I was using the windows boot loader. Now the ubuntu line in the boot.ini is gone and I dont know what to add to boot.ini to get the bootloader back and showing ubuntu.
[05:58] <bill57785> can anyone help me with my partition crisis?
[05:58] <crdlb> cables, is the fan turning on?
[05:59] <crdlb> after resume
[05:59] <cables> cafuego_, it reminds me of the  difference between the 386 and 686 kernels in Dapper
[05:59] <jrandolph> ok
[05:59] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: alright, now try using sudo there.  `sudo ls`
[05:59] <cables> crdlb, the fan runs louder after resume 'cause the cpu gets hotter.
[05:59] <Flannel> kraypius: why don't you just install GRUB, and use that?
[05:59] <cafuego_> cables: I've never had a machine where ruspend+resume works, so *shrug*. Suspend has always been fine, but effectively a slow way of hitting [RESET]  ;-)
[05:59] <Pelo> kraypius,   I suggest you look for help on that in that bootloader's channel, or their website
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: it listed Destkop and Examples
[06:00] <jbwan> !gparted
[06:00] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: but, it does work?  And it prompts you for your password and stuff?
[06:00] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:00] <frantic_> jrandolph? make sure that fglrx-control, linux-restricted-modules-common, linux-restricted-modules-generic, and xorg-driver-fglrx are installed
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes
[06:00] <jbwan> bill57785: take a look at that and see if it will help you
[06:00] <cables> cafuego_, it worked fine for me before the ubuntu drivers, and it's working fine for me after I switched agpgart for NvAGP. Except for this problem.
[06:00] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: then sudo is working for you
[06:00] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: but not in gnome I guess? or not with this terminalsince the reboot?
[06:00] <cafuego_> Ah, nvidia.
[06:01] <cafuego_> Well
[06:01] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty
[06:01] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: hmm.  In gnome, eh?  you're using what?  sudo? or gksudo?
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yes, I am running the command in the other term now and synaptic should get fixed up
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: I am using sudo, not gksudo
[06:01] <cafuego_> Perhaps ask mr garret about non-open drivers and suspend+resume
[06:01] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: er, wait, you're running synaptic with sudo?
[06:01] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: the key is that htis worked fine before the updates
[06:01] <cafuego_> He'll probably be driven tod rink, though
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: no not running with sudo, but needed to apt-get install -f
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: per its recommendation
[06:02] <cables> cafuego_, it did the getting hotter after resume thing before I installed the nVidia drivers, too.
[06:02] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: well, I don't know why it's not workingcurrently, but sudo as a whole is working.
[06:02] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: yep!
[06:02] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: it must be some gnome based something or other.
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> I've submitted a bug report in launchpad for cupsys and just recently got a message saying the fix has been released in Feisty. I'm in edgy though. What are my options besides upgrading to Feisty? I need the fix badly.
[06:03] <Flannel> FocusedEnergy: wish I could help narrow it down more, but I don't use gnome, and have no idea what itmight be
[06:03] <Flannel> !repeat | Zaphar_home
[06:03] <ubotu> Zaphar_home: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> lol
[06:03] <welch> hi, i have tried googling this to no avail: how do i determine my ip on the network in ubuntu?
[06:03] <Zaphar_home> already did that unfortunately
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> well guess I'll just have to live with it then
[06:04] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: Feisty will be out soon enough
[06:04] <jbwan> welch: ifconfig
[06:04] <jbwan> !ifconfig
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> welch: ifconfig
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <FocusedEnergy> Flannel: thanks for the help nonetheless!
[06:04] <FocusedEnergy> I'm going to reboot and see what is up
[06:04] <jbwan> haha  ubotu doesn't know ifconfig
[06:04] <Pelo> welch,   iptable ?
[06:04] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: yeah but in the meantime I can't print
[06:04] <Flannel> Zaphar_home: you could try backporting it yourself
[06:04] <Flannel> !prevu | Zaphar_home
[06:04] <ubotu> Zaphar_home: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[06:04] <Pelo> welch,  sorry, Ifconfig
[06:05] <Kikkoman> GionnyBoss: It's finished, but it just needs to be configured *windows*
[06:05] <welch> pelo, thanks
[06:05] <Zaphar_home> well I can technically but it takes an hour for one page
[06:05] <Zaphar_home> Flannel: thanks that is exactly what I was looking for :-)
[06:06] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: can you boot Ubuntu or Windows installation just installed its boot manager and it will boot only Windows?
[06:06] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: if you can, boot Ubuntu
[06:07] <GionnyBoss> Kikkoman: and then open a terminal and write ' sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst '
[06:07] <kraypius> gionnyboss, what do I do if i cant get into ubuntu to do that?
[06:07] <Kikkoman> I probably will have to reinstall Ubuntu
[06:07] <kraypius> kikkiman, you are having the same problem as me?
[06:08] <Faolchu> Can anyone tell me how to change the text color of bash in a CLI-only environment? Also, if anyone has a good resource to learning linux wholely through CLI, it would be appreciated.
[06:08] <welch> i am also trying to switch my screen resolution on my laptop to 1080 x 480 resolution so i can connect it to a hdtv, but that resolution is not included in the options in the gnome gui. can i change it to the right setting?
[06:08] <kraypius> i had to reinstall win and boot.ini got replaced
[06:08] <GionnyBoss> kraypius, Kikkoman: no you don't have to re-install... someone wrote a link here with a guide for that
[06:08] <Kikkoman> heh
[06:08] <Style-FilipBole> where must I put a file, for send it via serial with minicom?
[06:08] <Kikkoman> I already reinstalled windows
[06:08] <Flannel> !grub |  Kikkoman, kraypius
[06:08] <ubotu> Kikkoman, kraypius: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <Flannel> First link
[06:08] <Pelo> Faolchu,  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[06:08] <jbwan> welch: that depends on if your video card supports it along with the driver being used
[06:09] <Flannel> !cli | Faolchu
[06:09] <ubotu> Faolchu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:09] <GionnyBoss> !grub Kikkoman
[06:09] <Pelo> Faolchu, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[06:09] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[06:09] <welch> jbwan how can i find out?
[06:09] <GionnyBoss> !grub | Kikkoman, first link
[06:09] <ubotu> Kikkoman, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:09] <cables> cafuego_, just checked again... scaling is indeed broken after a resum.
[06:09] <cables> *resume
[06:10] <Kikkoman> Cool
[06:10] <real_aussie> In "Update Manager", what happened to the "Preferences" Button.  The Preferences button is still in the "Help/Getting Started/2.3 Main Window".
[06:10] <Desp_> morning guys
[06:10] <z0man> I hate ATT&Yahoo with SBCGLOBAL support!!!!!!!!!!
[06:10] <z0man> But I managed to get another UBUNTU user on it :)
[06:10] <Desp_> I got this errors on my sysinfo page
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: gethostbyaddr() [function.gethostbyaddr] : Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php on line 86
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php:86) in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/system_header.php on line 31
[06:10] <Desp_> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/os/class.Linux.inc.php:86) in /var/www/phpsysinfo/includes/system_header.php on line 35
[06:11] <jbwan> welch: check your video card's documentation to start with. Otherwise you could try googling
[06:11] <Desp_> anyone can tell me what happend ?
[06:11] <erick> hola
[06:11] <welch> jbwan, if it is possible, how would i do it?
[06:12] <lisapc> i created a shell script and made it exectuable. I then type sudo ./file  but it doesnt.  What am I missing?
[06:12] <Faolchu> Pelo: ty.
[06:12] <welch> jbwan, is there a config file to edit?