[22:45] <theshadow> I'm running a Dell Studio XPS with 9.10 when I woke up this morning the wireless was suddenly not working but I can't see anything in syslog to explain it. Anyone have a link on trouble shooting steps
[22:45] <hullo> Slart: Oasa: thanks for the hint for using watch.  I used a couple flags for ls -t to sort by creation time and -r to reverse the sort so the command was watch ls -t -r directory
[22:45] <ikonia> gsteinert: why are you trying to log in as root - you don't know the password
[22:45] <rizitis> jeffreyf, *LaCie crt
[22:45] <mkquist> Lord-Readman: tried ebay?
[22:46] <Oasa> hullo : watch <cmd>
[22:46] <ikonia> Oasa:  ?
[22:46] <jeffreyf> rizitis, you may need to manually center then resize the image to fit.  This has been typical of CRTs as long as I can remember (almost 23 years now).  Typically, this happens when you change resolution and/or monitor frequency.
[22:46] <Oasa> hullo: watch is for any command.
[22:46] <Oasa> ikonia : yeah
[22:46] <ikonia> Oasa: what do you want to do ?
[22:46] <gsteinert> ikonia: i set one some time in the past, i dont use it usually, just used it to test the extent of the problem, seems it affects more than just my account
[22:46] <ikonia> Oasa: what do you want to do ?
[22:46] <EastDallas> nagle: from what i can tell with my experience wubi creates a file and allows ubuntu to use that file as it's partition.  It's not a virtual environment under windows.  To the user it's just like any other dual boot.  You can move your virtual partition to a real partition if you decide to later on using lvpm.
[22:46] <Oasa> I dont want to do anything. I am helping "hullo"
[22:46] <chreekat> I swap caps lock for control using xmodmap. Everytime I hibernate and come back, my changes to the keymap are gone. How can I make them permanent?
[22:47] <ikonia> gsteinert: changing the root password has bigger knock on effrts
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> chreekat:  how are you swaping them>
[22:47] <Tijuanense> The OBAMA NIGGER TIDE has been stopped in its tracks!  Now it is time for respectable people from all non-negroid races to beat back the smelly coons and mayates!  Join us at Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum  At Chimpout Forum we welcome all races except for niggers!
[22:47] <Lord-Readman> mkquist, they charge £2.50 each on ebay
[22:47] <mkquist> can we get him booted
[22:47] <Lord-Readman> stores in the US charge $4 for 10
[22:48] <noxiuz> I burned the disc again, the disc check says no errors were found. However, the PC just freezes when ubuntu was loaded. Memcheck gave no errors
[22:48] <rizitis> jeffreyf, ok thanks, only at 800x600 resolution I have all the monitor in use but all the others ugly ... any way thanks :)
[22:48] <jeffreyf> thank you FloodBot1
[22:48] <mkquist> yes ty
[22:48] <Esya> Hey everbody,
[22:48] <chreekat> Dr_Willis: xmodmaprc and a few commands ('clear lock; add control = caps_lock')
[22:48] <gsteinert> ikonia: i changed the root password not long after i installed kubuntu (sometime around this time last year i think) these problems have only presented in the last couple of weeks, and i use sudo a LOT =P
[22:48] <Esya> Does someone have a link to a good tutorial about setting up a smtp/imap server?
[22:48] <nagle> EastDallas: Can I do that within Ubuntu? My problem is my Windows boot got a virus and I can no longer boot into it.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> chreekat:  in 9.10 - the gnome keyboard settings has Options to switch those  I think. Perhaps thats the better way to set the setting.
[22:49] <ikonia> Esya: ton's on help.ubuntu.com
[22:49] <DemoOn> ikonia: tnx, that worked :)
[22:49] <Esya> ikonia: Hmmm I'm gonna check this out right now
[22:49] <EastDallas> nagle: can you move to a real partition under ubuntu?  Yes, install lvpm from repositories.
[22:49] <ikonia> DemoOn: mega, well done
[22:49] <ikonia> DemoOn: make sure you also set your initrd line the same
[22:49] <jeffreyf> rizitis, no problem...in my experience you need to adjust the monitor.  If the monitor has no adjustment, it may be time to upgrade...sorry
[22:49] <Fanton> #caera
[22:49] <Fanton> #ceara
[22:50] <ikonia> Fanton: ? are you trying to join that channel
[22:50] <chreekat> Dr_Willis: thanks, i'll use that
[22:50] <Oasa> Fanton type /join :S
[22:50] <Oasa> type /join <chatroom>
[22:51] <EastDallas> nagle: are you running ubuntu on a wubi install now?
[22:52] <kadko> Hello guys i have a stranger problem whit emerald , when i try to add a new theme it says Error Calling Tar, tryed to google the problem but i dont find a functional solution :) (Note.- Tryed to reinstall and the same happens)
[22:52] <ikonia> kadko: is it one theme or all themes
[22:52] <nagle> EastDallas: Yes, that's right.
[22:53] <EastDallas> nagle: I've got a guide for moving your ubuntu virtual partition to a real partition...trying to find the link now...
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> kadko:  emerald is basically a dead project. add the themes manually. or just give up on emerald. perhaps.
[22:53] <forge_> techwizrd, hi
[22:53] <actionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:53] <actionParsnip> !emerald
[22:53] <EastDallas> nagle: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[22:53] <kadko> ikonia: All themes, actually i have installed the zgegblog-themes  and it doesnt shown as it need to do
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> I imagine emerald will vanish from the repos in the next release.
[22:54] <ikonia> kadko: have you tried manually untaring the them files
[22:54] <actionParsnip> !info emerald lucid
[22:54] <Ricket> Is there a way, from the live part of the Ubuntu disc, to test hard drive speed? I'm about to install Ubuntu but I want to know which of my two drives is faster.
[22:54] <actionParsnip> ricket: sudo hdparm -Tt
[22:54] <Oasa> nagle : Use live CD.
[22:54] <actionParsnip> ricket: sudo sorry: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[22:55] <actionParsnip> ricket: or whatever disk you wanna test
[22:55] <kadko> yes, and addes manually and nothing, it shows one ugly theme but no the one i;ve selected
[22:55] <Ricket> actionParsnip: thanks! i'll give it a try
[22:56] <Oasa> #rhythmbox
[22:56] <techwizrd> forge_: hi
[22:56] <Oasa> !lynx
[22:56] <theshadow> Can anyone help me trouble shoot why my wireless suddenly stopped working?
[22:56] <Oasa> !GTK | Oasa
[22:57] <kadko> ikonia: in 9.04 emerald was working excellent but i've installed .10 and this happends
[22:57] <actionParsnip> theshadow: get it working again (reboot if necessary) when it drops run: dmesg | tail
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> kadko:  the emerald theme repos have closed down - and who knows what else.  Doubt if you are going to get much help with it.
[22:58] <actionParsnip> theshadow: it will help diagnose
[22:58] <ikonia> kadko: it is a dying project unfortunalty
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> kadko:  its not too hard to make a custome emerald theme if you play with the emerald themer tool
[22:59] <kadko> ikonia: Well tnx for the info
[22:59] <Ricket> actionParsnip: thanks, the hdparm did the trick and one of my drives was indeed about 30-40% faster than the other, so I'm glad I checked :)
[22:59] <theshadow> actionParsnip: how can I tell which device is my wireless?
[22:59] <kadko> Dr_Willis Let's play with the theme tool and see what happends :) Tnx all ^^
[23:00] <jazz> hello, does ay one know how to set ktorrent as the default torrent for Ubuntu? i kinda don't like transmission and it isn't downloading anything anyways
[23:00] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis: - howdy
[23:00] <Marupa> Has anyone here had experience mounting a raided NTFS partition under linux?
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> kadko:  i was able to import some themes here just now.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> kadko:  whatever.emerald files i got from http://compiz-themes.org/content/download.php?content=101121&id=1&tan=8345928
[23:00] <VCoolio> jazz: right click a .torrent file, properties, open with, set ktorrent
[23:01] <hiexpo> Marupa: - yes one sec
[23:01] <VCoolio> jazz: for opening from firefox or another browser see browser settings
[23:01] <jazz> one sec,
[23:01] <Boohbah> jazz: have you installed ktorrent?
[23:01] <jazz> browser settings within fire fox?
[23:01] <kadko> Dr_Willis I was too but i got kernel panic and had to reinstall again from 0 my ubuntu, and now doesnt work's as before
[23:02] <Boohbah> jazz: depends on your desktop environment
[23:02] <EastDallas> jazz: edit>Preferences>Applications.   Look for .torrent. and change the default action
[23:02] <h_> …………………...„„-~^^~„-„„_
[23:02] <h_> ………………„-^*'' : : „'' : : : : *-„
[23:02] <h_> …………..„-* : : :„„--/ : : : : : : : '\
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[23:02] <FloodBot1> h_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <jazz> yeah, i used it for  pb stuff, but the file i want is healthiest on toerrentdownloads and its not in the ktorrent searches'
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  you can customize what sites the ktorrent searches search.. personally i use qTorrent these days
[23:03] <nagle> EastDallas: thanks! I think that should work.
[23:04] <EastDallas> nagle: np
[23:04] <james__> hello
[23:04] <jazz> i tried qtorrent but the files for some reason were extreamly slow
[23:04] <EastDallas> nagle: fyi: it takes a LONG time
[23:04] <jazz> ktorrent hasnt faild me yet in on ubuntu though not kubuntu
[23:05]  * EastDallas loves torrentflux!
[23:05] <skata> Hi, I have some problems with my sound, could someone help me?
[23:05] <jazz> where in the browser settings do i change where torrents  are set?
[23:05] <james__> exit
[23:05] <EastDallas> !sound | skata
[23:05] <james__> nope
[23:05] <hiexpo> Marupa: - sudo fdisk -l
[23:05] <james__> quit
[23:05] <james__> nope
[23:05] <EastDallas> jazz: what do you mean by 'where torrents are set'?
[23:05] <hiexpo> sorry bout that  iwas busy with a thing
[23:06] <wish^> why does my wlan keep asking for wpa key when i wanna transfer something?
[23:06] <wish^> why does my wlan keep asking for wpa key when i wanna transfer something?
[23:06] <jazz> ubotu lol my volume  randomly mutes and lowers
[23:06] <wish^> why does my wlan keep asking for wpa key when i wanna transfer something?
[23:06] <Marupa> hiexpo: two of the four drives show two partitions, but none of the right size.  The other two drives show no partitions.
[23:06] <EastDallas> !repeat | wish^
[23:06] <jazz> when i download a torrent it used to open with ktorrent by default, now its transmission
[23:06] <theshadow> ok I've determined that my wireless adaptor is being assigned to eth1 here is the dump from /var/log/syslog I can't figure out why the device won't even allow me to enable it http://pastebin.com/m629c62f0
[23:07] <hiexpo> ok one sec let me see
[23:07] <theshadow> nothing that this just happened this morning
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  sure you are not confused and its wanting the users password to connect to the share on the other box? Is wireless working at all>
[23:07] <theshadow> err noting*
[23:07] <EastDallas> jazz: Edit>Preferences>Applications>find .torrent in the list, and change the default action.  YOu might have to change it to 'ask' and then choose 'do this every time for files of this type' the next time you download a torrent.
[23:08] <hiexpo> hers an examp;le for you ok
[23:08] <EastDallas> jazz: you also might have to manually enter the path to ktorrent.  I believe it's /usr/bin/ktorrent.
[23:08] <gigasoft> how to turn off compiz config
[23:08] <jazz> let me try that....
[23:09] <infid> sometimes my screensaver doesnt go off until i go to touch my keyboard/mouse after being idle for 30 min plus, why is that? kinda defeats the purpose of a screensaver
[23:09] <wish^> willis: no it says wpa personal.. i type it in and it still doesnt connect
[23:09] <wish^> its been fine before
[23:09] <EastDallas> gigasoft: system>preferences>appearance>Visual Effects tab then choose 'none'.
[23:09] <hiexpo> Marupa: - i m gonna make something for you to read in pastebin ill send ya the link here in just a sec gotta paste it
[23:09] <Marupa> k
 thanks :)
[23:10] <EastDallas> gigasoft: np
[23:10] <gigasoft> but under kubuntu
[23:10] <Gateway> guys, is there a way to know the public ip in terminal ?
[23:10] <EastDallas> !kubuntu | gigasoft
[23:11] <infid> gateway yeah using dig
[23:11] <theshadow> how can I get ubuntu 9.10 to generate the ifupdown configuration?
[23:11] <Gateway> infid, dig what ?
[23:12] <infid> Gateway: dig +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com
[23:12] <james__> quit ()
[23:13] <jazz> ok with /usr/bi/ktorrent i found it what do i do then? the edit>pref>aplication> didnt get me anything
[23:13] <Gateway> infid, thanks ;)
[23:13] <infid> you might wanna alias it to 'myexternalip' or something easy
[23:14] <wish^> willis: no it says wpa personal.. i type it in and it still doesnt connect
[23:14] <wish^> its been fine before
[23:14] <Rocker_bcn> Hi
[23:15] <jazz> hmm ill figure it out in a few, dinner time now  lol  thanks. least  i know where the file is  never knew where it was b4 now
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> !tab | wish^
[23:15] <hiexpo> Marupa: http://pastebin.com/m1c4889ce
[23:15] <Guest23907> so uhm do i just ask something?
[23:15] <anthony> does any body know how to use ircd-irc2 ?
[23:15] <infid> Guest23907: yes
[23:15] <hiexpo> yes
[23:15] <Marupa> hiexpo: problem: fdisk -l does NOT show my partition.
[23:15] <JR_w> Just added Ubunty to my hard drive and it will not boot properly my PCLinuxOS which requires nonfb boot.  Can I adapt menu.lst to boot Ubuntu?  Or must it be some sort of grub2 thing?
[23:15] <wish^> Dr_Willis: what you think?
[23:16] <arand> Marupa: does it show some or none at all?
[23:16] <EastDallas> jazz: that's exactly where you set it, I don't know what else to tell you.  Type torrent in the search box.
[23:16] <arand> Marupa: is this from a liveCD yes?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  sounds like you need to check the wireless trouble shooting. you could try an older kernel in the boot menus to see if that makes it work.
[23:16] <Guest23907> ok can uppl tell me how to get fire fox 3.6?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Marupa:  you are using 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[23:16] <james__> There's a thread on it in the community cafe on the forum.
[23:16] <dl0c> can anyone recommend a good IR remote that will work with ubuntu?
[23:16] <Marupa> arand: it shows one on sdb and sdc.  This is a raid setup, software (fake) raid set up by the motherboard utility.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest23907:  theres PPA's for 3.6 you can use.
[23:17] <super_james> come on!
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/install-firefox-36-beta1pre-in-ubuntu.html
[23:17] <Guest23907> what r PPS's?
[23:17] <james__> You can find it on launchpad.
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | Guest23907
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> dl0c:  the people in #mythbuntu may have good suggestions.
[23:17] <arand> Marupa: I know the liveCD has had some wonkyness with raid and partition detection...
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> dl0c:  been looking for one myself.
[23:18] <JR_w> Can I adapt menu.lst to boot into the Ubuntu?????
[23:18] <dl0c> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IMON_VFD_and_LCD_Karmic_9.10
[23:18] <dl0c> just found that
[23:18] <james__> Any other tiling wm users here?
[23:18] <Marupa> arand: dang.  And now I have to leave, so hopefully I can figure this out when I get back.
[23:18] <dl0c> the IMON VFD looks great
[23:18] <james__> awesome/dwm/wmii/scrotwm etc?
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> JR_w:  ubuntu 9.10 uses grub2 - You could always  customize the other disrtos menu.lst to boot ubuntu if you wanted
[23:19] <EastDallas> dl0c: snapstream firefly
[23:19] <Guest23907> ubuntu really needs an ezyer way to update firefox...
[23:19] <james__> Why?
[23:19] <Guest23907> thax again
[23:19] <oneinch> anyone in here use peercast?
[23:19] <owner> where would I find the config file that sets the default resolution for a particular user's session?
[23:19] <JR_w> Dr_Willis Thanks.  I will check into it!  some sort of chainloader thing, i guess?
[23:19] <james__> Ubuntu only updates packages for security updates.
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> JR_w:  or you just edit the menu.lst to boot it directly
[23:20] <james__> If you want the latest and greatest firefox, add the ppa and you'll get updates when they're available.
[23:20] <dl0c> thanks EastDallas, was ideally looking for a 3.5" drive bay reciever... but that looks nice too
[23:21] <EastDallas> dl0c: one thing, I think it's rf and not ir....could be wrong...
[23:21] <JR_w> Dr_Willis: OK, just need to look up the specific lines I need to boot into sda9
[23:21] <dl0c> RF is good too
[23:21] <dl0c> i can put the reciever inside the case
[23:22] <Shizuo> Why does NetworkManager suck so much?
[23:22] <radioman-lt> managers allways suck ;D
[23:23] <EastDallas> Shizuo: try WiCD
[23:23] <Shizuo> Yes, it rocks
[23:23] <Crisis> +1
[23:23] <liam_> anyone need help?
[23:23] <Yamagiz> I have an old dell laptop that can't lplay video, anyone care to take a crack at it?
[23:23] <Shizuo> Take a crack?
[23:23] <Shizuo> What?
[23:23] <drenyx> I have a problem with any terminal or console....it doesn't interpret escape sequences or something
[23:24] <magn3ts> How do I install KDE alongside GNOME?
[23:24] <Yamagiz> hello
[23:24] <Crisis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:24] <magn3ts> Crisis, alongside, I dont want GDM replaced and the boot splash changed.
[23:24] <Crisis> It won't be.
[23:25] <magn3ts> Crisis, It was the last time I installed kubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu install
[23:25] <EastDallas> !info kubuntu
[23:25] <Shizuo> I love you all
[23:25] <Crisis> Really.
[23:25] <Crisis> Hang on.
[23:25] <EastDallas> !info kubuntu-desktio
[23:25] <EastDallas> !info kubuntu-desktop
[23:25] <kickar> !info awn
[23:25] <kickar> !info smplayer
[23:25] <kickar> nice
[23:25] <Yamagiz> !info kde-core
[23:25] <Yamagiz> hmm
[23:25] <Yamagiz> !info gnome-core
[23:26] <Yamagiz> figures.
[23:26] <Crisis> hmm.
[23:26] <Yamagiz> "Love is in the air..."
[23:26] <Crisis> Try installing the kdebase package.
[23:26] <Crisis> That should work.
[23:27] <Yamagiz> Anyways, I need help with my neomagic card.
[23:27] <drenyx> I need help with:      �24;5H�H�24;5H�H�24;5H�H�24;5H�H�24;5H�H�0m�24;5Hl�24;6H�H�0m�24;5H �24;5H�H�0m�24;5Hs�24;6H�H�0m�24;6Hl�24;7H�H�0m�24;5H  �24;5H�H�0m�24;5He�24;6H�H�0m�24
[23:27] <EastDallas> magn3ts: If I remember correctly, it will prompt you on what login you want to use.  If it doesn't all you have to do is reinstall gdm and you'll get it back
[23:27] <magn3ts> Crisis, is the KDE stuff in the ubuntu repos all 4.0+ these days?
[23:27] <tucemiux> i am attempting to grant a user access to a partition using sshfs using public key, the user can log in to the server using ssh fine but the user gets this error when attempting to mount the drive using sshfs: read: Connection reset by peer
[23:27] <Crisis> Yes sir.
[23:27] <drenyx> the terminal windows or consoles don't interpret things correctly
[23:27] <magn3ts> Crisis, fantastic. thanks.
[23:28] <Yamagiz> I really just want a verdict on whether or not this card can play any kind of video.
[23:28] <magn3ts> EastDallas, Saw something like that when I was googling. I think kdebase will work for now. thanks
[23:28] <Crisis> No problem, good luck.
[23:28]  * liam_ confused
[23:28] <Yamagiz> drenyx: What kind of keyboard are you using?
[23:28] <drenyx> you mean physical or the layout selected?
[23:29] <Yamagiz> both
[23:29] <drenyx> it's a laptop keyboard with the standard USA layout
[23:29] <theshadow> Ok I still can't figure out why my wireless devices can't be activated. I plugged in a USB network device and it also can't be enabled. this is the dump from the syslog http://pastebin.com/m629c62f0
[23:30] <Crisis> theshadow, try posting on the forums.
[23:30] <liam_> ubuntu has its own irc channel yet no irc client installed by default
[23:30] <Yamagiz> drenyx: is ti a dell?
[23:30] <Yamagiz> liam_: Empathy or Pidgin
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> liam_:  Hmm.. I recall the IM clients can do IRC
[23:30] <drenyx> Yam: hell no :>
[23:30] <Yamagiz> They both have IRC support
[23:31] <liam_> yes but they arn't deicated applacations
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> liam_:  so?
[23:31] <Yamagiz> Actually they are.
[23:31] <Crisis> Try irssi if you want a dedicated app, it's cli though.
[23:31] <Yamagiz> They are dedicated to supporting as many reasonable messaging protocols as possible.
[23:31] <Yamagiz> irssi works very well
[23:32] <fdmanana> just plugged in a usb hard drive (with two ext3 partitions), but it didn't get auto monted, however in /var/log/messages I get:  "Jan 25 00:27:43 core2duo kernel: [12894.330016] usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4"
[23:32] <liam_> i use xchat
[23:32] <fdmanana> but no info on which device it is mapped to
[23:32] <fdmanana> how can I find it?
[23:32] <cirodiazvelez> hello, someone knows how to configure the intelGMA 500 ? i haved try everithng and i cat mak it work
[23:32]  * Dr_Willis likes weechat 0.3.0
[23:32] <Yamagiz> liam_: Then what are you trying to get at?
[23:32] <Crisis> It should work out of the box :S
[23:32] <theshadow> how can I trigger ubuntu 9.10 to regenerate all the network config files like when you first install?
[23:32] <cirodiazvelez> i cant get my optimal screen resolution and everithing looks giant
[23:33] <Crisis> Have you tried manually setting the resolution?
[23:33] <cirodiazvelez> yes, t says uknow display and it doesnt allow me to change the display
[23:33] <Crisis> hmm.
[23:33] <Crisis> You're using 9.10?
[23:34] <cirodiazvelez> yes, 9.10, i just updated it
[23:34] <cirodiazvelez> i have 1 month trying to fix this
[23:34] <liam_> Yamagiz, i just don't think the empathy (for irc) lays options out easy enough
[23:34] <Crisis> Upgraded from 9.04?
[23:34] <Yamagiz> get pigdin
[23:34] <cirodiazvelez> clean install
[23:34] <Yamagiz> pidgin*
[23:34] <Crisis> Was it working before you updated it?
[23:34] <Yamagiz> liam_: As I understand it is being worked on for 10.4
[23:35] <cirodiazvelez> no it never works.....
[23:35] <drenyx> l
[23:35] <cirodiazvelez> m driving myself crazy,,,
[23:35] <Crisis> I'm not sure to be honest, try posting on the forums.
[23:35] <Crisis> A lot more people will be available to help.
[23:35] <liam_> Yamagiz, any word on weba
[23:35] <liam_> ca
[23:35] <liam_> ugh
[23:35] <Yamagiz> what?
[23:36] <liam_> Yamagiz, any word on webcam support in empathy for the msn protocal
[23:36] <deltafunction007> hi guys!   HAve you ever seen such a problem:  "Wireless connection connects with DHCP - IP and gateway is set up properly. I can access the internet for about 5 seconds then there is no internet"
[23:36] <wrektjet> hey i just installed a new hdd and formatted it as ext3 can someone give me a quick howto on setting up the mkdir so that i have space coneccted to my home folder?
[23:36] <Yamagiz> liam_: No idea, all I have is a laptop that can't play videos, and I use pidgin.
[23:36] <deltafunction007> Wireless connection connects with DHCP - IP and gateway is set up properly. I can access the internet for about 5 seconds then there is no internet
[23:36] <cirodiazvelez> thanks anyway =)
[23:37] <Yamagiz> Try looking for the empathy developers
[23:37] <erUSUL> wrektjet: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[23:37] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: What happens after five seconds?
[23:37] <hyperstream> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (how can i resolve this? i installed libstdc++ but it installed libstdc++.so.6 files etc
[23:37] <erUSUL> !find libstdc++.so.5
[23:37] <twisted_> hi need some help with netbook remix this the rite place?
[23:38] <liam_> Yamagiz, u tried playing a file
[23:38] <Yamagiz> Yes.
[23:38] <hyperstream> !find libstdc++5
[23:38] <wrektjet> erUSUL, i have my data in /home as i have the OS in / . id like the new hdd to be an extension to /home is that possible?
[23:38] <hyperstream> !find libstdc++6
[23:38] <liam_> Yamagiz, anything happen
[23:38] <Yamagiz> Its the card itself, it has no hardware acceleration and it has like 4MB vram
[23:38] <Yamagiz> liam_: It plays video at around .5FPS
[23:38] <erUSUL> wrektjet: so you already have home in a separate partition ?
[23:39] <hyperstream> erUSUL, is there anyway to resolve this ? how can i install an older libstdcc++ ?
[23:39] <manevra> what is the command to edit a pppoe connection ? pppoe-setup ?
[23:39] <HCDemon> something in my install has been borked, all windows in gnome have no border (title bar, min, max, and close buttons) any suggestions?
[23:39] <Yamagiz> I get to watch the frame get drawn across my screen
[23:39] <erUSUL> manevra: pppoeconfig
[23:39] <Joke_> hey guys
[23:39] <ejv> HCDemon: panic
[23:39] <erUSUL> hyperstream: dunno; sorry
[23:39] <wrektjet> erUSUL, yes on my original hdd. i am trying to figure out where to mount the enw one
[23:39] <manevra> erUSUL: thanks , than i will just enter my username and password and that how i start it ?
[23:39] <Joke_> my current ubuntu system loads up and just shows a small picture of ubuntu
[23:39] <ejv> HCDemon: just kidding ;)
[23:39] <liam_> ugh nice
[23:39] <twisted_> cool .. i just login the my netbook and my launcher is missing the one on the right hand side
[23:39] <Yamagiz> !info xfce-base
[23:39] <actionParsnip> hyperstream: you can symlink the new name to the old name, making the file appear to exist but its just a linked file
[23:39] <Yamagiz> !info xfcebase
[23:39] <twisted_> how do i get it back..
[23:40] <Yamagiz> !info xfce
[23:40] <deltafunction007> can someone figure this out: I am able to ping gateway for about 20 seconds after connection and after that "destination unreachable"
[23:40] <Yamagiz> hmm
[23:40] <Joke_> i put in my ubuntu cd an im going to backup and reinstall... how can i saveall my FF bookmarks etc..
[23:40] <erUSUL> wrektjet: i would just mount it in /media/data  and use it for media (music photo video) storage for example.
[23:40] <actionParsnip> yamagix: for a minimal xfce desktop, install xfce4
[23:40] <dsearle> htop
[23:40] <Yamagiz> actionParsnip: thanks
[23:40] <erUSUL> wrektjet: maybe set up links to my home folder if needed
[23:40] <HCDemon> ejv, yea, panic came first, lol, now im just more annoyed that i cant figure out how to fix it
[23:40] <Yamagiz> I alreasdy have Xubuntu
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Joke_: backup ~/.mozilla
[23:40] <hyperstream> actionParsnip, sorry to ask, how would i go about that?
[23:40] <Yamagiz> I was checking for the command to help HCD
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Joke_: you should have it backed up anyway if the data is important to you
[23:40] <twisted_> cool .. i just login the my netbook and my launcher is missing the one on the right hand side
[23:40] <twisted_> cool .. i just login the my netbook and my launcher is missing the one on the right hand side
[23:40] <twisted_> how do i get it back..
[23:41] <liam_> were can i get a linux based email?
[23:41] <FloodBot1> twisted_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <Joke_> i also have skipper, how can i backup my passwords?
[23:41] <HCDemon> Yamagiz, ok cool, thx
[23:41] <actionParsnip> !email | liam_
[23:41] <owen1> how to find a maintainer of a specific driver?
[23:41] <Yamagiz> HCDemon: That's a different DE
[23:41] <actionParsnip> liam_: do you mean a linux based email client, or an email server?
[23:42] <Yamagiz> after it installs log out and just the drop box at bottom of screen to select xfce-session
[23:42] <Yamagiz> Then I say removing and reinstalling gnome
[23:42] <twisted_> how do i get my netbook launcher back.
[23:42] <Joke_> actionparsnip, will this backup my live cd FF, or my other ubuntu? and the command failed for me anyway
[23:42] <actionParsnip> Joke_: you'll have to check the skipper docs on where it stores stuff
[23:42] <liam_> actionParsnip, looking to replace my hotmail address
[23:42] <Joke_> kk
[23:43] <HCDemon> have to install xfce first, which its doing now
[23:43] <actionParsnip> Joke_: you will need to mount the internal partition and backup the folder. why don't you have a backup regime if the data is preciious to you?
[23:43] <Yamagiz> HCDemon: I know that XFCE devides those the desktop into different pieces but I think Gnome is all in one
[23:43] <Joke_> i just have some doc's I need
[23:43] <actionParsnip> liam_: that kind of tning is offtopic here
[23:43] <Joke_> and my FF
[23:43] <Joke_> thats it
[23:43] <deltafunction007> can someone help me with the internet connection question?
[23:44] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: Is it wireless/
[23:44] <Yamagiz> ?
[23:44] <actionParsnip> Joke_: you should still have a backup
[23:44] <deltafunction007> yes wireless on Intel PRO 2200BG
[23:44] <cirodiazvelez> if someone knows how to configure the intel GMA500 please help me @_ciro_
[23:44] <twisted_> how do i get my netbook launcher back.
[23:44] <Joke_> and mount the internal partition? i have no idea how to... is there a way I can acces the desktop of the ubuntu partiton?
[23:44] <deltafunction007> it appears connected and even can access internet and ping gateway for about 20 seconds
[23:44] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: What prototcol?
[23:45] <Joke_> I clicked on ubuntu repair -> graphic repair... now the splash image just freezes.
[23:45] <liam_> actionParsnip, where is not?
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Joke_: i don't know where skipper keeps its stuff, mozilla stores ts stuff in ~/.mozilla
[23:45] <Yamagiz> protocol*
[23:45] <actionParsnip> liam_: this channel
[23:45] <Joke_> ok
[23:45] <deltafunction007> but then connection no longer works, though it appears as "connected"
[23:45] <deltafunction007> WPA2
[23:45] <Joke_> maybe I could try repair it from the live CD.
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Joke_: you may want to delete the browser cache to make it smaller
[23:45] <npc1> Hey could someone help me with grub2?
[23:45] <Yamagiz> deltafunction007: did you make multiple entries for it by accident?
[23:46] <lihobo> hiii
[23:46] <actionParsnip> deltafunction007: can you ping your router?
[23:46] <lihobo> i wannt to know
[23:46] <Joke_> Ok.. Could you help me fix the startup issue.
[23:46] <drenyx> so, my weird console/terminal thing, I've tried all manner of terminal programs for gnome, tried the terminal without gnome, tried booting recovery mode...
[23:46] <lihobo> how i can reset ubntu to defult
[23:46] <Yamagiz> Joke_: what is it?
[23:46] <drenyx> nothing lets me run the program locally or remotely
[23:46] <deltafunction007> I deleted all wireless connections and then accepted one auto wireless (from available networks in Ubuntu bbar)
[23:46] <lihobo> any one know
[23:46] <Yamagiz> lihobo: What do you want? Default settings?
[23:46] <drenyx> the colors and positioning are not interpreted
[23:47] <Joke_> When i startup ubuntu 9.04, after the screens loads it goes all distoreted and just freezes.
[23:47] <actionParsnip> lihobo: you can delete the .gnome .gconf .gnome2 folders in a recovery root console then reboot, you will get defauly gnome settings
[23:47] <deltafunction007> ifconfig shows: eth0, eth1, lo  and only eth1 RUNNING   -  which is the wireless
[23:47] <npc1> anyone know how to get things done in grub 2? I know you can't edit it like grub legacy anymore...
[23:47] <actionParsnip> lihobo: you can see the gnome gconf folders, delete or rename them all
[23:48] <meganerd> deltafunction007: what does iwcofig by itself return?
[23:48] <erUSUL> !grub2 | npc1
[23:48] <deltafunction007> when I run "route"  I get 3 entries.    first 2 come quick, and third one is delayed and returns in about 15 seconds
[23:48] <npc1> yea I've been there
[23:48] <Gateway> deltafunction007, did you try iwconfig ?
[23:48] <meganerd> deltafunction007: you are probably going to need pastebin to show us
[23:48] <npc1> it just seems kind of confusing
[23:48] <drenyx> delta use route -n
[23:48] <Joke_> Yamagiz, do u get me?
[23:48] <npc1> I just want to edit this one line
[23:48] <npc1> and I don't know how
[23:48] <drenyx> it will stop dns from trying to interpret the IP
[23:48] <actionParsnip> npc1: what do you want to edit?
[23:48] <Yamagiz> I think so
[23:49] <meganerd> deltafunction007: in the future use "ip route". route and ifconfig will go away eventually
[23:49] <Yamagiz> do you have compiz enabled or any special effects?
[23:49] <npc1> there this line in grub where it looks for a device and prevents ubuntu from booting
[23:49] <deltafunction007> ok 1 sec
[23:49] <Joke_> No i dont
[23:49] <npc1> when  I go to the grub menu adn hit "edit" I can get rid of it and boot just fine
[23:49] <actionParsnip> npc1: the factoid tells you the files to edit to achieve what you want
[23:50] <npc1> factoid?
[23:50] <actionParsnip> npc1: when ubottu said stuff
[23:50] <Joke_> I just clicked on repair graphics and it came up.
[23:50] <EastDallas> !grub2
[23:50] <actionParsnip> npc1: thats a factoid
[23:50] <npc1> oh
[23:50] <npc1> hm
[23:50] <ami_> can anyone help me configure apache2 for php 4.4.9?
[23:51] <npc1> I'll look at it again and coem back with the launchpad bug repoort
[23:51] <npc1> launchpad*
[23:51] <actionParsnip> ami_: tried #apache
[23:51] <ami_> i did
[23:51] <Joke_> Yamagiz?
[23:51] <HCDemon> Yamagiz, how would i remove/reinstall gnome now that im in xfce? apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ? and install to get it back?
[23:51] <actionParsnip> !purekde
[23:52] <meganerd> ami_: why php4?
[23:52] <ami_> legacy app
[23:52] <Yamagiz> HCDemon: no don't do that
[23:52] <Yamagiz> let me think
[23:52] <ami_> won't work with 5
[23:52] <Yamagiz> !info gnome
[23:52] <actionParsnip> HCDemon: that uide will help dude
[23:52] <Yamagiz> !info gnome2
[23:52] <drenyx> ;5H �24;5H�H�0m�24;5H#�24;6H�H�0m�24;6Hc�24;7H�H�0m�24;7Hl�24;8H�H�0m�24;8Ho�24;9H�H�0m�24;9Hs�24;10H�H�0m�24;10He�24;11H�H�0;44;30m�1;22H  <-- this stuff is all i get when I run a program that uses ncurses + ansi or otherwise colored text, it works on other linux distros, but on ubuntu it does it locally through any number of terminal programs or on a remote server via ssh,
[23:52] <Yamagiz> okay
[23:52] <wrektjet> i mounted a new hdd but i must have done something wrong i have no permission to access it
[23:53] <wrektjet> i cant unmount for example or create a folder within it
[23:53] <Joke_> was the let me think to me?
[23:53] <Yamagiz> Joke_: you can try sudo apt-get remove gnome
[23:53] <Yamagiz> wait no
[23:53] <Yamagiz> gah
[23:53] <Yamagiz> This is on the edge of my mind
[23:53] <Joke_> ok
[23:54]  * Yamagiz needs to be at a gnome computer
[23:54] <actionParsnip> drenyx: does it happen as all users?
[23:54] <Joke_> i cant get into terminal btw..
[23:54] <Joke_> im on the live CD atm.
[23:54] <Yamagiz> why?
[23:54] <drenyx> I haven't tried other users yet, fresh install as of yesterday
[23:54] <Yamagiz> oh duh
[23:54] <Yamagiz> ><
[23:54] <actionParsnip> drenyx: create a new user and test
[23:54] <Joke_> :P
[23:55] <meganerd> drenyx: what use locale are you using?
[23:55] <Yamagiz> Joke_: I say you just use XFCE4 or KDE
[23:55] <deltafunction007> do I need to copy paste the results of pastebin here?
[23:55] <daftykins> drenyx: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" sometimes fixes crazy stuff like that for some
[23:55] <Yamagiz> I don't know how to properly remove and reinstall gnome without harming something
[23:55] <Yamagiz> but
[23:55] <Joke_> how do i install KDE
[23:55] <Joke_> ok..
[23:55] <Yamagiz> go into a recover boot
[23:55] <meganerd> drenyx: it looks like you don't have utf8 support installed and are trying to use non-latin characters
[23:55] <Joke_> ya
[23:56] <drenyx> it's not non-latin chars
[23:56] <Yamagiz> you have to login using your account name and password
[23:56] <drenyx> it's an ncurses program
[23:56] <Yamagiz> if the computer is already setup with net
[23:56] <Yamagiz> sudo apt-get install should work
[23:56] <Joke_> but I can't acces my desktop
[23:56] <wrektjet> can anyone assist me with setting the correct permissions for a hdd? the line in my fstab reads like this: /dev/sdb1    /media/data   ext3    defaults     0        2
[23:57] <Yamagiz> the recovery menu is a terminal window
[23:57] <Yamagiz> no GUI
[23:57] <wrektjet> i assume defaults is wrong
[23:57] <Yamagiz> you can't do it from live cd
[23:57] <drenyx> meganerd:   en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date
[23:57] <Joke_> kk
[23:57] <Yamagiz> Do you know how to select a different option in grub?
[23:57] <EastDallas> HCDemon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[23:57] <Joke_> so sudo apt-get install gnome
[23:57] <Joke_> or kde?
[23:57] <Joke_> sorry -.-
[23:58] <Yamagiz> !kde
[23:58] <Joke_> ok
[23:58] <Yamagiz> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:58] <Joke_> yes
[23:58] <Crisis> !kde4
[23:58] <EastDallas> Joke_: I just came in on the tail end of this, but the standard packages are kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[23:58] <Crisis> !karmic
[23:58] <Joke_> now to acces command libe
[23:58] <Yamagiz> remember
[23:58] <erUSUL> !cli | Joke_
[23:58] <Joke_> thats fine
[23:59] <Yamagiz> you have to log in first
[23:59] <deltafunction007> results of iwconfig:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/362258/
[23:59] <Joke_> so long as  i can backup
[23:59] <challman> hey, can anyone help me with a new install and video problems? I've got an older system with an ATI Radeon 9000 & DVI attached LCD. when it boots after install, I do see things on the screen right up to before the logon screen but the LCD shows out of range


[02:27] <doctormo> Evening nigel_nb
[02:27] <nigel_nb> morning doctormo
[02:27] <nigel_nb> its 8 am here
[02:28] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I'm just popping in and seeing how things are going.
[02:28] <nigel_nb> not bad.. pretty tough.. but hanging in here
[02:28] <nigel_nb> doctormo: bad connection though
[02:29] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Good, keep up the good work :-)
[02:29] <nigel_nb> :)
[02:30] <nigel_nb> doctormo: how long will you be here?
[02:30] <doctormo> nigel_nb: maybe 3 hours, maybe 6 hours. Depends if sleep takes me
[02:31] <doctormo> But most certainly 2 more.
[02:31] <nigel_nb> i'm closing IRC now.. I'll pop in after 2 hours.. too distracting
[02:32] <doctormo> nigel_nb: aye aye
[02:32] <nigel_nb> doctormo: catch you in 2 hours sharp
[02:32] <doctormo> nigel_nb: your in a lot channels too :-)
[02:33] <doctormo> RanDom33: Hey there!
[02:33] <cprofitt> doctormo, do you use irssi?
[02:34] <RanDom33> doctormo, hai?>
[02:34] <cprofitt_> hey RanDom33
[02:34] <RanDom33> cprofitt_ hello there
[02:36] <cprofitt_> trying to learn irssi... and struglling to learn how to make my own theme or change the default theme
[02:37] <cprofitt_> hey doctormo_ ... know irssi?
[02:37] <doctormo_> cprofitt_: no, what is it?
[02:37] <cprofitt_> irc cli client
[02:37] <doctormo_> ah ok, I use konversation
[02:40] <cprofitt> kde fan, heh?
[02:44] <doctormo_> cprofitt: Nope, can't get rid of KDE cds at all and haven't used it for years.
[02:45] <cprofitt_> konversation is KDE default though...
[02:46] <doctormo_> cprofitt_: Perhaps, but it's my gnome default.
[02:48] <cprofitt_> doctormo_: you have to install it though right?
[02:48] <doctormo_> yes
[02:54] <doctormo_> cprofitt_: what are you upto tonight
[02:54] <cprofitt_> doctormo: playing with irssi, preparing more of my presentation for NYSCATE
[03:01] <pleia2> doctormo: I met cprofitt_ last night!
[03:02] <doctormo> pleia2: wonderful
[03:02] <pleia2> meeting you next week...
[03:02]  * pleia2 schemes to meet the rest, someday
[03:09] <doctormo> Should be interesting, one day we'll all meet together.
[03:09] <cprofitt_> meeting would be interesting...
[03:10] <cprofitt_> with my aversion to leaving my family it might prove difficult unless I win the lottery and can take them with me
[03:10] <doctormo> cprofitt_: Where abouts are you?
[03:11] <cprofitt_> Rochester NY
[03:11] <doctormo> cprofitt_: Not that far away then.
[03:14] <cprofitt_> doctormo: not too far...
[03:14] <cprofitt_> and I get to MA once a yaer
[03:14] <cprofitt_> I got to Stockbridge
[03:14] <cprofitt_> go to
[03:14] <cprofitt_> grr...
[03:14] <doctormo> cprofitt_: Let me know when your next here.
[03:16] <cprofitt_> pleia2: thanks... that tip for creating the default theme got me past the hump...
[03:16] <cprofitt_> now I have a functional theme
[03:19] <cprofitt_> hey talsemgeest
[03:19] <talsemgeest> Heya cprofitt_ :)
[03:20] <cprofitt_> talsemgeest: using irssi for the first time
[03:20] <pleia2> cprofitt_: hooray :)
[03:20] <talsemgeest> cprofitt_: It is definitely a great client
[03:21] <cprofitt_> it is...
[03:21] <cprofitt_> I just had pleia2 help me figure out the themese
[03:21] <cprofitt_> now I have to set my default network, channels, etc
[03:22] <talsemgeest> cprofitt_: I have started with irssi today as well
[03:22] <talsemgeest> Still on xchat right now though ;)
[03:22] <cprofitt_> talsemgeest: nice
[03:22] <cprofitt_> I have both xchat and irssi open
[03:22] <cprofitt_> but there is a nice feeling to irssi as I get used to it...
[03:22] <cprofitt_> spellling isn't corrected though :-)
[03:59] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ping
[03:59] <doctormo> nigel_nb: pong
[03:59] <nigel_nb> i'm stuck at introduction to launchpad
[04:00] <nigel_nb> I've got 2 lines..."Launchpad is an open source suite of tools that help people and teams to work together on software projects. All our asciidoc lessons are hosted on Launchpad to allow everyone on the team to pull and make changes and also convert them to other formats."
[04:00] <nigel_nb> any suggestions as to what more?
[04:07] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Launchpad is a project management site, it's free and open source software and allows free culture projects to be honsted there using the bazaar content version system.
[04:07] <doctormo> nigel_nb: This includes not only code projects such as ubuntu it's self, but also creative projects like these learning materials.
[04:08] <cprofitt> hey doctormo -- I need some help with thinking something through
[04:09] <nigel_nb> doctormo: thats enough? :)
[04:09] <doctormo> cprofitt: Thinking, hey I'm good at that!
[04:09] <doctormo> nigel_nb: It's up to you, are we missing anything?
[04:09] <nigel_nb> doctormo: nopes, but I am wondering if 2 lines are okay for a section...
[04:10] <cprofitt> well... I am looknig at http://www.ancestry.com/ and http://www.findagrave.com/ and wondering why someone has not made this an open project... like wikipedia
[04:10] <nigel_nb> doctormo: btw
[04:10] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Sure, but what is the section trying to teach? is it just a brief wikipedia style description of launchpad, or do you want to go into some details?
[04:10] <nigel_nb> u missed some stuff on your blog post
[04:10] <nigel_nb> its just an intro
[04:10] <nigel_nb> details come next class
[04:11] <cprofitt> what do you think doctormo ?
[04:11] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Sounds reasonable then.
[04:11] <doctormo> cprofitt: It's an interesting project idea, let me think some more.
[04:11] <nigel_nb> doctormo: u missed "bzr launchpad-login $lpusername" and brz whoami "<Name> <emailid>"
[04:12] <cprofitt> I just look at ancestry using 'public' records and charging people $160/yr
[04:12] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I did, but I did that delibratly.
[04:12] <nigel_nb> doctormo: not needed?
[04:12] <cprofitt> and findagrave allows for only one person to control the information
[04:12] <doctormo> cprofitt: Aye, public records should be free and open, possibly even tired to open street maps so you can tie in references to locations.
[04:13] <doctormo> cprofitt: But that sort of thing would need the dedication of a 5 man team about 2 years to get stable and some basis to get people on board I think.
[04:13] <cprofitt> doctormo: yeah they key is how to get people to contribute to such a project... and how it would be financed so it could afford servers/bandwidth
[04:13] <cprofitt> it just irks me to see people contribute and have a company profit from free labor
[04:14] <doctormo> cprofitt: If it's popular enough, some google adwords might work. If it's educational enough then people like biblio might run it, if it's governmental enough, the government might offer a grant.
[04:19] <nigel_nb> doctormo: so that step is unnecessary?
[04:19] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Aye?
[04:19] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I did follow it... so what do I do now?
[04:20] <doctormo> nigel_nb: Basic introduction is good, go with it.
[04:20] <nigel_nb> doctormo: updated launchpad with work so far
[04:21] <doctormo> nigel_nb: wonderful.
[04:24] <doctormo> nigel_nb: what Rev?
[04:24] <nigel_nb> doctormo: 10 I think
[04:26] <doctormo> hmm it won't pull
[04:26] <nigel_nb> which branch are you trying to pull nigelbabu/ubuntu-learning-materials/nigelbabu?
[04:26] <nigel_nb> lp:~nigelbabu/ubuntu-learning-materials/bazaar-introduction
[04:27] <nigel_nb> I renamed the branch the other day
[04:30] <nigel_nb> doctormo: a user has to sign CoC to upload to launchpad?
[04:30] <doctormo> ah
[04:30] <doctormo> nigel_nb: do they?
[04:30] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I have no clue... :P
[04:32] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I don't think so.
[04:33] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ok :)
[04:37] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I'm stopping writing for the day...
[04:37] <nigel_nb> doctormo: my minds gone blank..I think I should be done with it tomorrow
[04:37] <doctormo> nigel_nb: wonderful, I'm looking at your five sections
[04:37] <nigel_nb> doctormo: let me know if I've made any grave mistakes
[04:38] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I'll let you know if i find any errors, but I'll test my script to see if it makes a pdf
[04:39] <nigel_nb> doctormo: oh okay :)
[05:12] <doctormo> off to bed time
[05:13] <nigel_nb> night doctormo
[05:13] <nigel_nb> even i'm off to bed
[05:32] <Vantrax> nigel_nb, no need to sign CoC to upload to LP, its used by non Ubuntu groups too
[05:32] <nigel_nb> Vantrax: ok thanks, I didn't include it :0
[07:44] <nigel_nb> tets
[17:08] <pleia2> bodhi_zazen, doctormo - I will be available earlier than 11PM EST, what time is good for you to meet up this evening?
[18:58] <doctormo> pleia2: I should be available this afternoon 6pm onwards
[19:05] <pleia2> ok, great
[22:37] <bodhi_zazen> are we meeting today ?


[04:42] <obiwahn> sarnold: At the moment a build takes about 3 minutes I think deboostrap is a bit much? If creating a package turns out to be too hard I can just create the binaries and copy them. But I will continue later today.
[08:29] <oSoMoN> doko, good morning! you mentioned a while back that the libreoffice java vendor patches will need to be backported to stable releases, does that include xenial?
[08:31] <oSoMoN> tdaitx, you might have the answer to that question? ^
[09:06] <Laney> sahid: it's the worker-lxd.conf
[09:23] <sahid> Laney: thanks I just updated the merge request
[11:02] <doko> oSoMoN: no, backed that out from the backports. so you can backport them, and once they are, I can apply those to the openjdk backport as well
[11:20] <marcustomlinson> hey doko, I'll be doing the backporting. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Xenial is backed out of the backports? So we're only concerned with Bionic for this?
[11:41] <oSoMoN> doko, yeah, the question was rather: will you be backporting openjdk to xenial too, or only bionic?
[12:06] <doko> oSoMoN, marcustomlinson: there probably are PPA builds, nothing in the distro. but if you backport this change, I can enable it even for the ppa builds
[12:06] <doko> and I'm waiting with the bionic backport until you have fixed that
[12:07] <marcustomlinson> alright, I'm in the process of SRU'ing both xenial and bionic so I might as well include it in both
[12:07] <doko> ok, just let me know about the versions, and I'll add appropriate breaks
[12:14] <marcustomlinson> doko: it'll be 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, and 1:5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial7
[13:46] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, hello, can you please do some merges with your name on it? e.g. python-pyvmomi should be syncd, right? there is something that is build-depending on stuff that needs merging...
[13:48] <tsimonq2> @pilot in
[13:48] <tsimonq2> ohai :)
[13:49] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg, ack.
[13:49] <LocutusOfBorg> lovely thanks! I see for some of them you are TIL because of "no change rebuild", I presume you might not care, right?
[13:50]  * LocutusOfBorg did a generic question, not a specific one, related to everybody that has a merge
[13:50] <tsimonq2> seb128: Bug 1821410 might interest you as a "polish then upload" bug.
[13:50] <LocutusOfBorg> I think no-change rebuilds should not be listed by DOM, only the last "meaningful upload" should be considered
[13:51] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: Please remember to unsubscribe sponsors when you sponsor packages :) bug 1824560 is one I just looked at
[13:52] <seb128> tsimonq2, thank, it would be nice to have, I'm unsure I've the slot to work on non default components atm so if someone can beat me into sponsoring please do
[13:52] <LocutusOfBorg> tsimonq2, do I have privileges to do that?
[13:52] <tsimonq2> seb128: Sounds good, just needs the SRU bug template.
[13:53] <LocutusOfBorg> yes I have them
[13:53] <LocutusOfBorg> ack then
[13:53] <tsimonq2> cool :)
[13:53] <seb128> tsimonq2, it's a bit of a shame that you unsubscribed sponsors, it pretty much garantee that we are going to forget about it if the contributor doesn't do the paperwork/subscribe the team back
[13:54] <tsimonq2> seb128: Yeah, like you said on the ML, ideally we'd have a separate page for it. ;?
[13:54] <tsimonq2> *:/
[13:55] <tsimonq2> Now that we have a public log though, I'll make a note to follow up on this bug once that is implemented.
[13:55] <seb128> tsimonq2, that would be one way, the other would be to do as well did until now and keep sponsors subscribed
[13:55] <seb128> it makes some "noise" on the list but I think it's better to have noise than loose contributions
[13:56] <tsimonq2> I'm certainly not opposed to it.
[14:00] <LocutusOfBorg> sponsored LP #1821130
[14:06] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: ack
[14:06] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: If you're working on sponsoring as well, perhaps you should @pilot in ;)
[14:08] <tsimonq2> oSoMoN: Hi, did you plan on driving bug 1827451?
[14:08] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, that's the queue :)
[14:09] <oSoMoN> tsimonq2, I'm handing over maintenance of libreoffice to marcustomlinson, he will drive it
[14:10] <tsimonq2> Sounds good, thanks!
[14:10] <LocutusOfBorg> tsimonq2, I don't want to pilot in, I just did three of them :)
[14:10] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: ;D
[14:10] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't have a slot
[14:12] <tsimonq2> ok
[14:14] <tsimonq2> @pilot out
[14:14] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-May/040678.html
[15:11] <seb128> doko, bug #1827499 unsure how important the issue is but since the description mentions some memory corruption it might be worth checking that it's not potentially a security issue
[15:12] <seb128> (it's fixed in 5.0/disco but not bionic)
[22:23] <vorlon> jbicha: did you see my ping before questioning the utility of gparted's delta?


[00:20] <wrostek> Anyone know how to disable wifi power management?  On my card, DWA 552 ATH9K, when I use iwconfig wlan0 power off , I just get the error Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
[14:09] <skaet> bjf, ogasawara, jsalisbury - bit worried about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/986797 (and related) that just showed up on the tracker.    Any preliminary thoughts?
[14:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 986797 in linux "package linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic 3.2.0-23.36 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:17] <ogasawara> skaet: looking at VarLogDistupgradeApttermlog, I'm seeing the following:
[14:17] <ogasawara> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-23-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic
[14:17] <ogasawara> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[14:17] <ogasawara> run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub exited with return code 1
[14:17] <ogasawara> Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic.postinst line 1010.
[14:18] <ogasawara> dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic (--configure):
[14:18] <ogasawara>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[14:18] <ogasawara> skaet: which looks to actually indicate something going wrong with grub-probe
[14:20] <skaet> ogasawara, probably best to comment on it, and mark it as a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/986791 then?   (which came in at same time) ?
[14:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 986791 in grub2 "package grub-pc 1.99-21ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]
[14:21] <skaet> or maybe not....
[14:26] <ogasawara> bug 916077
[14:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 916077 in grub-installer "grub-install - /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916077
[14:27] <ogasawara> skaet: ^^ that seems a better master bug
[14:27] <skaet> ogasawara,  agreed.
[14:29] <ogasawara> skaet: am posting a comment to 986797
[14:30] <skaet> ogasawara,  thanks. :)   Can you set the priority too?
[14:30] <ogasawara> skaet: yep
[14:30] <skaet> :)  ta
[14:40] <ogasawara> skaet: I have to drop off for a bit (lil guy is getting up).  I see you've already brought it up in ubuntu-release.  Will check back in later.
[14:40] <skaet> Thanks ogasawara   :)   l8r
[15:24] <uzf> How do I check to see if Video4Linux is enabled in my kernel?
[15:26] <johanbr_> uzf, grep V4L /boot/config/$(uname -r)
[15:27] <uzf> it appears that everything is
[15:28] <uzf> is there like a v4l setup tool?
[15:29] <uzf> my dvb card any idea why my dvb card only shows "[   28.195941] saa7146: register extension 'dvb'." when I issue dmesg|grep dvb ?
[15:31] <johanbr_> uzf, setup is done in the applications
[15:33] <uzf> my card doesn't show up in lspci and there is no /dev/video or /dev/dvb.. hmm
[21:17] <dileks> yay!
[21:17] <dileks> http://nopaste.snit.ch/134321


[00:34] <dandel_> hmm... i found a bug with the ext3 subsystem used for the virtual partition install of ubuntu 9.04 :/ (when using kernel 2.6.32-rc7)
[00:35] <dtchen_> reported upstream?
[00:35] <dandel> somewhat.
[00:35] <dandel> i'm trying to reopen a bug that got closed ><;
[00:35] <dandel> i haft to figure out how to over ethernet send the debug ><; (the crash happens upon resume)
[00:36] <dandel> 2.6.28 (which is used in 9.04 by default does not display this bug, but the system still crashes shortly afterwards)
[00:37]  * dandel checks 2.6.32-rc6 for bug.
[00:39] <dandel> that also displays the bug (go figure)
[00:42] <dtchen_> and rc8?
[00:42] <dtchen_> rc7*
[00:42] <dandel> i'm testing 2.6.31 ><;
[00:43] <dandel> 2.6.31 also does the crash on resume 0o
[00:45] <dandel> i know it's some sort of module change... the crash does not occur when i suspend with testing via s2ram on init=/bin/bash
[00:51] <dandel> it'd be excellent if i could get the kernel dmesg stuff to go to my tower (the laptop lacks serial ports tho)
[00:55] <maco> is one of your USB ports a debug port?
[00:55] <dandel> no clue.
[00:56] <dandel> however, the kernel did not panic, so the log is scrollable (although it is a little short)
[00:57] <dandel> how can i make the usb port a debug port?
[00:58] <maco> http://www.coreboot.org/EHCI_Debug_Port
[01:00] <dandel> Yes, the usb does support debug 0o'
[01:01] <maco> this time, im bookmarking that link. i had to search through last december's chatlogs to find it :P
[01:02] <dandel> so how do i run the device as a debug port then?
[01:02] <dandel> (Keep in mind that i have 2 EHCI controllers, and both of them support debug)
[01:08]  * dandel makes note that both the laptop and tower have debug port capability on the usb.
[01:09] <maco> ive never done it myself. the $83 pricetag on that hardware was a bit steep for me
[01:09] <dandel> ><;
[01:09] <dandel> any idea on how to get the debug to go over ethernet?
[01:11] <maco> spose you could ssh in before it breaks...
[01:11] <dandel> can't
[01:11] <maco> right....suspend/resume
[01:11] <maco> i wasnt thinking
[01:33] <dandel> hmm... my only option now is to start gutting module trees with the modprobe blacklisting.
[02:39] <dandel> ok... got the crash down to about 15 modules which i can't unload.
[03:41] <hagabaka> why doesn't the kernel ppa work as a repository now?
[12:08] <asabil> hi all
[14:28] <teabag> hello all, I am getting this error during the makefile process
[14:28] <teabag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/319311/
[14:28] <teabag> can anyone plz tell me what is wrong and how to fix it ?
[14:39] <teabag> ah nevermind
[14:39] <teabag> go it
[20:36] <_Narc_> Hello, Kernel Wizards. I got a little something to ask you. I had/I'm having/ a hard time figuring out if a bug is coming form the kernel or from something else. It's network related, especially to the r8169 module... Anyone I could explain to ? Thanks
[21:41] <dtchen_> _Narc_: please don't ask to ask.
[21:41] <dtchen_> _Narc_: and, it's better if you have a bug report reference.
[22:27] <_Narc_> dtchen_: Sorry. The problem is I don't have a bug report yet because I waited to have an advise here to submit it under the right package.
[22:28] <BenC> _Narc_: you can file a bug report against just ubuntu and specify the package later
[22:29] <BenC> _Narc_: since you know it is in ubuntu, you know you will have to file a bug report anyway, so best to do it from the start and narrow down the exact package after it's been triaged a bit
[22:30] <_Narc_> BenC: Good idea, I didn't think about that. I came here to ask because someone on ubuntu-bugs told me it was weird and to ask to someone who knows the kernel better. But I'll do that, thanks.
[22:30] <BenC> _Narc_: you can still explain here if you can provide enough detail
[22:35] <_Narc_> BenC: Yes, I even have too much of them. Too make a long story short, it's been months that I experience network hangs/ deconnexions when the network was under heavy load, using bittorrent (Miro) for example. I tested with a different router, changed nothing. Then I looked in syslog and found this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/318620/ .
[22:37] <BenC> _Narc_: not so sure that's a bug at all...
[22:38] <BenC> _Narc_: if anything, it is kernel, but just saying that the driver may be acting as expected
[22:38] <_Narc_> With different people on ubuntu-bugs, we thought it was a r8169 issue. But now I discovered that changing the default port in Miro stops it. So, I need your help determining if it's Miro who's talking nonsense to the kernel or the kernel who can't handle it.
[22:38] <_Narc_> Oh really
[22:38] <_Narc_> Two people on ubuntu-bugs told me it was an Oops
[22:38] <BenC> it's not an oops at all
[22:38] <_Narc_> Oh
[22:38] <BenC> it's a WARN_ON() in the driver
[22:39] <BenC> oops == crash, WARN_ON() == driver got something unexpected from the hardware and tried to handle it
[22:39] <BenC> likely in this case, that means resetting the device
[22:39] <_Narc_> Ok, it means it's just telling that something is wrong, but acting as expected ?
[22:39] <_Narc_> Ok
[22:40] <BenC> that's an initial guess
[22:40] <_Narc_> It's really something already :)
[22:40] <_Narc_> Do you know if the SYN flood messages just at the beginning could trigger this ?
[22:40] <_Narc_> Or is it unrelated
[22:41] <_Narc_> Because I had a lot of them.
[22:41] <BenC> I believe it is directly related
[22:42] <BenC> need to find out why the kernel thinks it is getting syn-flooded
[22:43] <_Narc_> Oh. That's interesting, because that's what I thought, and I unabled the syn flood cookies, and it still hanged. But changing Miro's default port from 8500 to 51413 solves it. So, I wondered why one and not the other...
[22:46] <_Narc_> I say Miro specifically because it's the only app who's doing this. On this port. And the syslog message I showed you does not appear at each network hang.
[22:47] <_Narc_> So, hardware, kernel, miro... I'm not good enough to figure out. Ask me if you need any other info.
[22:48] <BenC> _Narc_: do not disable syn cookies, that causes more problems
[22:48] <BenC> _Narc_: quite possible you need to lower some limits in Miro so that it doesn't cause flooding on your connecting
[22:52] <_Narc_> Yes, that's what I did. But the strange thing is that I only get the syn warnings when miro's port range are 8500-8600. So, it's not a kernel issue you say, because it's acting brave and try to handle miro's/my hardware crappy packets, right ?
[23:00] <BenC> _Narc_: I believe so
[23:02] <_Narc_> Ok, thank you very much then. I'm starting to understand this more. It's probably a Miro bug then. Because my hardware is not exotic.


[05:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62002 in xorg (main) "Installer X server startup fails" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62002
[10:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #59237 in xserver-xorg-video-mga (main) "Xubuntu login screen shows flashback of previous session after logout." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59237
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #58382 in Ubuntu "Restore from Suspend creates problems" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58382
[08:44] <Mithrandir> rodarvus: I have a patch to the X mouse driver which disregards button presses when you move the mouse (x,y,z or w); this is needed for my mx510 since otherwise the "scroll up" button (not the wheel) generates a button 6 (which is mapped to "back" in firefox) press as well as a button 4 press.
[08:45] <Mithrandir> rodarvus: I can give you the patch, but does my solution sound good?
[08:52] <rodarvus> hmm, to be sincere, I don't have much of an opinion on the subject. I'm not aware of any applications that actually use buttons 6 or 7.
[08:52] <rodarvus> disabling button 6 completely would not be an ideal situation, though
[08:54] <rodarvus> anyhow, feel free to add your patch and upload it - I really don't feel that strongly about it, and I guess it bothers other people with such featureful mouse too :)
[09:00] <Mithrandir> button 6 isn't disabled, I've merely disabled drag with it.
[09:00] <Mithrandir> (more or less
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62341 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "ndiswrapper crashes when laptop is unplugged" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62341
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62352 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Kernel Update removes Intel Pro Wireless 3945" [Untriaged,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62352


[02:19] <ckarini> okay
[02:20] <jrib> hello
[02:20] <ckarini> hey
[02:20] <jrib> ok were you able to download the tar.gz to your desktop?
[02:20] <ckarini> yes
[02:21] <jrib> ok, open up a terminal
[02:21] <ckarini> k
[02:21] <ckarini> i did
[02:21] <jrib> cd ~/Desktop
[02:21] <jrib> you downloaded the binary right?
[02:22] <ckarini> wait, should i change the directiory to the desktyop or the file?
[02:22] <jrib> I am assuming the tar.gz is on your desktop, so 'cd ~/Desktop' is to get you to the Desktop in the terminal
[02:22] <ckarini> im there
[02:23] <jrib> tar xvzf Step<TAB>      where <TAB> is you pressing the tab button to complete the full name of the tar.gz
[02:23] <ckarini> waitwaitwait, you lost me on that one
[02:24] <nalioth> ckarini: tab completion is a wonderful thing
[02:24] <ckarini> i dont get what i do though
[02:24] <jrib> enter that in your terminal:
[02:24] <jrib> tar xvzf Step<TAB>
[02:25] <nalioth> ckarini: instead of <tab> hit the tab key
[02:25] <ckarini> i hit the tab key, but nothing happened
[02:25] <jrib> ok, what does this say:        ls *ania*
[02:26] <ckarini> ls *ania*
[02:26] <ckarini> why?
[02:26] <nalioth> ckarini: in yoru terminal
[02:26] <jrib> I'll try to put commands in '' from now on
[02:27] <ckarini> okay
[02:27] <ckarini> i did that
[02:27] <jrib> ckarini: copy and paste the output here
[02:27] <nalioth> did anything return, ckarini ?
[02:27] <ckarini> aclocal.m4  configure     Docs         NEWS               Utils
[02:27] <ckarini> autoconf    configure.ac  Makefile.am  README-FIRST.html
[02:27] <ckarini> config.log  Copying.txt   Makefile.in  src
[02:27] <jrib> ckarini: ok what does this command say:   'pwd'     enter it without the quotes
[02:28] <ckarini> k
[02:28] <ckarini> /home/dom
[02:28] <ckarini> thats what it did
[02:28] <jrib> ok, now do    'cd ~/Desktop'    the capitalization of the D is important
[02:29] <ckarini> okay, there
[02:30] <jrib> ok, what does 'pwd' say now?
[02:30] <ckarini> /home/dom/desktop
[02:30] <nalioth> ckarini: are you typing that or copying it?
[02:31] <ckarini> typing
[02:31] <ckarini> /home/dom/Desktop
[02:31] <ckarini> thats copied
[02:31] <jrib> great
[02:31] <nalioth> ckarini: in linux, letter case means different things
[02:31] <ckarini> oh
[02:31] <nalioth> /home/dom/desktop is NOT /home/dom/Desktop
[02:31] <ckarini> okay
[02:32] <jrib> now try:  'tar xvzf Step<TAB>'    remember I just mean that you should press your TAB button instead of typing <TAB>
[02:32] <ckarini> k
[02:32] <ckarini> okay
[02:32] <jrib> the name should magically complete
[02:32] <ckarini> yeah
[02:32] <ckarini> it did
[02:32] <ckarini> then enter?
[02:32] <jrib> yep
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-src
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: StepMania-3.9-src: Cannot read: Is a directory
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:33] <ckarini> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-srcbash: dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$: No such file or directory
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$
[02:33] <nalioth> it automagically untarred, it seems
[02:33] <jrib> that's ok, that is the wrong file.  We need the binary
[02:34] <ckarini> uh, i dont understand the moonspeak
[02:34] <jrib> this command will download it from the internet:  'wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/stepmania/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz'
[02:35] <jrib> the step mania site offers binary and source.  Source is the source code, which gets compiled into a binary that your computer can actually run
[02:35] <ckarini> it 404'd me.
[02:36] <jrib> ok, visit http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads and download the linux binary to your desktop
[02:36] <nalioth> jrib: that is a dynamic link you gave (mean ol' sourceforge)
[02:37] <ckarini> okay it downloaded
[02:37] <jrib> ok is it called StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz?
[02:38] <ckarini> yep
[02:38] <jrib> tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz      feel free to use the TAB button to complete most of it like before
[02:39] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: StepMania-3.9: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:40] <jrib> 'tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz'   you need to complete the end
[02:40] <ckarini> okay,
[02:40] <nalioth> ckarini: just type one letter more in the name and then hit <tab>
[02:41] <ckarini> okay, it did all this stuff like
[02:41] <ckarini> 1337 and stuff
[02:41] <ckarini> i think in installed.....
[02:41] <jrib> 'cd StepMania-3.9'
[02:41] <ckarini> i dont know though
[02:42] <ckarini> okay
[02:42] <ckarini> i did that
[02:42] <jrib> now:  './stepmania'
[02:42] <jrib> and it will take over your screen...
[02:43] <ckarini> StepMania 3.9
[02:43] <ckarini> Log starting 2006-12-05 20:39:22
[02:43] <ckarini> Loading window: gtk
[02:43] <ckarini> OS: Linux ver 020615
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash backtrace component: x86 custom backtrace
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash lookup component: dladdr
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash demangle component: cxa_demangle
[02:43] <ckarini> Runtime library: glibc 2.3.6
[02:43] <ckarini> Threads library: NPTL 2.3.6
[02:43] <ckarini> TLS is available
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA Driver: 0: ESS Allegro PCI [PCI] , device 0: Allegro [Allegro] , 2/2 subdevices avail
[02:43] <ckarini> Couldn't load driver ALSA: Not enough substreams for hardware mixing, using software mixing
[02:43] <jrib> !pastebin | ckarini
[02:43] <ubotu> ckarini: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA: Software mixing at 44100hz
[02:43] <ckarini> Sound driver: ALSA-sw
[02:43] <ckarini> Video renderers: 'opengl'
[02:43] <ckarini> SDL version: 1.2.9
[02:44] <ckarini> Got 24 bpp (8880), 16 depth, 0 stencil
[02:44] <ckarini> Paletted textures disabled: GL_EXT_paletted_texture missing.
[02:44] <jrib> ckarini: close any program you have using sound
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Vendor: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Renderer: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Version: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_
[02:44] <ckarini> blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subte
[02:44] <ckarini> xture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3 GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert
[02:44] <ckarini>  GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Max texture size: 2048
[02:44] <ckarini> GLU Version: 1.3
[02:44] <ckarini> Display: :0.0 (screen 0)
[02:44] <ckarini> Direct rendering: no
[02:44] <ckarini> X server vendor: The X.Org Foundation [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[02:44] <nalioth> whoa
[02:44] <ckarini> Server GLX vendor: SGI [1.2]
[02:44] <ckarini> Client GLX vendor: SGI [1.4]
[02:44] <ckarini> Mixing 361.804511 ahead in 532 Mix() calls
[02:44] <ckarini> Language: english
[02:44] <ckarini> Current renderer: OpenGL
[02:44] <ckarini> Theme: default
[02:44] <ckarini> Error: There was an error while initializing your video card.
[02:44] <ckarini>    PLEASE DO NOT FILE THIS ERROR AS A BUG!
[02:44] <ckarini> Video Driver: OpenGL
[02:45] <ckarini> Initializing OpenGL...
[02:45] <ckarini> Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer.
[02:45] <ckarini> okay
[02:45] <nalioth> !pastebin
[02:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <ckarini> i did
[02:45] <jrib> ckarini: does it work if you close all programs playing sound before entering that command?
[02:46] <ckarini> nope
[02:46] <ckarini> it did the same thing
[02:47] <jrib> k, lets read the README
[02:47] <ckarini> ok
[02:47] <jrib> oh I just read the bottom of your error
[02:47] <ckarini> yeah...
[02:47] <jrib> ckarini: what kind of video card do you have?
[02:48] <ckarini> i dont know.
[02:48] <jrib> ckarini: 'lspci'  put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[02:49] <ckarini> wait, i put in lspci,
[02:49] <ckarini> what did i just do?
[02:49] <nalioth> did you get any return, ckarini ?
[02:49] <ckarini> yeah
[02:50] <nalioth> jrib: will probably have a question or want you to use a pastebin to display the results
[02:50] <jrib> great, now visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then copy and paste the output into the box on the web form and submit.  Give us the url when you are done
[02:51] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35505/
[02:53] <ckarini> what did that do?
[02:54] <jrib> I'm not familiar with intel video cards, let me search and see if I can find out
[02:54] <ckarini> k
[03:01] <jrib> ckarini: you have an  intel 82810 by the way
[03:03] <ckarini> okay
[03:03] <ckarini> so what can i do to get step mania working
[03:04] <jrib> well what we need to do is  get direct rendering on your intel 82810
[03:04] <ckarini> how?
[03:04] <jrib> once you do that, step mania should be working
[03:04] <jrib> I don't know, like I said, i am searching
[03:04] <ckarini> okay
[03:06] <jrib> 'glxinfo | grep rendering'
[03:07] <ckarini> do i put the grep rendering part in?
[03:08] <jrib> yes, everything between the ''
[03:08] <ckarini> okay
[03:08] <ckarini> it was pretty straight forward with that one.
[03:08] <ckarini> direct rendering: No
[03:08] <jrib> the | lets you send output from the first command as input to the second command.  The 'grep' command searches for words
[03:09] <ckarini> so now what do i do?
[03:09] <jrib> ckarini: try asking in #ubuntu how to enable direct rendering on your intel 82810 .  If I come across it before you find out, I'll let you know.  But stepmania should work after you get direict rendering enabled
[03:10] <ckarini> okay
[03:10] <ckarini> thanks alot
[03:18] <jrib> ckarini: 'apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri'
[03:21] <ckarini> that may have worked,
[03:21] <ckarini> it did somthing
[03:21] <ckarini> so assume, it did work, what do i do now?
[03:23] <ckarini> wait, what even was that?
[03:23] <jrib> that command just gathers information
[03:23] <ckarini> oh.
[03:23] <jrib> please pastebin the output
[03:23] <ckarini> okay
[03:23] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9$ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri
[03:23] <ckarini> nvidia-glx:
[03:23] <ckarini>   Installed: (none)
[03:23] <ckarini>   Candidate: 1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1
[03:23] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:23] <ckarini>      1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 0
[03:23] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
[03:23] <ckarini>      1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 0
[03:23] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
[03:23] <ckarini> libgl1-mesa-dri:
[03:23] <ckarini>   Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:23] <ckarini>   Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:23] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:23] <ckarini>  *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0
[03:24] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[03:24] <ckarini>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:24] <ckarini> libgl1-mesa-dri:
[03:24] <ckarini>   Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:24] <ckarini>   Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:24] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:24] <ckarini>  *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0
[03:24] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[03:24] <ckarini>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:24] <ckarini> oops.
[03:24] <ckarini> well, should i do it there again anyways?
[03:24] <jrib> nah
[03:24] <jrib> ok, 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  to pastebin please
[03:24] <ckarini> ok
[03:26] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/
[03:27] <jrib> hmmmm
[03:28] <nalioth> ckarini: this channel is NOT a pastebin
[03:28] <nalioth> ckarini: please visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste your stuff THERE
[03:29] <nalioth> it makes a big difference in how you are helped, as pastebins can be accessed easily tomorrow or next week
[03:29] <nalioth> these channel logs are hard to parse after a day or so
[03:30] <ckarini> okay
[03:30] <ckarini> jrib: any ideas yet?
[03:30] <jrib> ckarini: well I don't reall know what to suggest.  The only reference I found that I thought might be useful was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232651 .  But your configuration seems fine.  I suggest you make a post on the forums or send an email to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  Someone with an intel themselves may be able to help better
[03:31] <ckarini> okay
[03:31] <jrib> ckarini: be sure to include your xorg.conf and the result of the 'glxinfo | grep direct' command.  As well as your video card
[03:32] <ckarini> okay
[03:32] <ckarini> well, in short, whats the main problem
[03:32] <jrib> the lack of direct rendering
[03:33] <ckarini> and when direct rendering is enabled, i can install it?
[03:34] <jrib> stepmania is "installed" I guess.  Running that "stepmania" file is trying to run stepmania
[03:34] <ckarini> oh,
[03:35] <jrib> you should see a "stepmania" file inside the folder on your desktop.  Once you get it working, you can just double click that.  For now though, I recommend you try './stepmania' after 'cd ~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9'.  That way you get useful error output
[03:35] <ckarini> so, if direct rendering is on, the program will run?
[03:35] <jrib> well yes, I assume so
[03:36] <ckarini> because i have the program icon and everything, but when i click on it, it loads, then just goes right back to the desktop
[03:36] <jrib> yeah, it's the lack of direct rendering that causes that
[03:36] <ckarini> oh, so i have to try to find out how to enable direct rendering?
[03:36] <jrib> exactly
[03:37] <ckarini> okay.
[03:38] <ckarini> look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=277065
[03:38] <jrib> ckarini: ubuntuforums.org and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users are two possibilities for reaching more people than on irc
[03:38] <ckarini> does that help?
[03:38] <jrib> ckarini: no, that is for nvidia
[03:39] <ckarini> oh.
[03:39] <jrib> nvidia is a different kind of video card
[03:40] <ckarini> what about
[03:40] <ckarini> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Direct_rendering_on_Intel_Extreme_Graphics_(855GM)_chipsets
[03:42] <ckarini> does that one help at all?
[03:42] <jrib> it mentions something but I would not rely on it without corroboration from a different source
[03:43] <jrib> "The VideoRam option is very critical. The chip..."  but the person on ubuntuforums did not have that line
[03:43] <ckarini> oh, well, should we try it yet, or not,
[03:43] <jrib> I think it would be better if you found someone that could tell you something that would work for sure
[03:43] <jrib> If we mess up, you will be without a gui
[03:44] <ckarini> and thats not good.
[03:45] <jrib> hmmm
[03:45] <ckarini> now wait,
[03:45] <ckarini> look at this http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Video_Card_Compatibility
[03:45] <jrib> I just checked the ubuntu person's xorg.conf and he has the videoram line as well
[03:45] <jrib> yes, I saw that
[03:45] <jrib> (you don't have the videoram line)
[03:46] <ckarini> oh.
[03:46] <ckarini> so whats the videoram line
[03:46] <jrib> so that's looking more and more like it be the problem
[03:47] <jrib> ckarini: type  ctrl-f in your browser and enter "videoram"
[03:47] <jrib> ignore my message in #ubuntu, wrong window
[03:48] <jrib> do you know how much ram you have?
[03:49] <ckarini> nope
[03:49] <jrib> 'free -m'
[03:49] <ckarini> wait, what browser?
[03:49] <jrib> firefox for example
[03:49] <ckarini> oh
[03:49] <jrib> on the gentoo wiki page or the forum post I linked to earlier
[03:50] <ckarini> wait, doesnt ctrl-f find stuff?
[03:50] <jrib> yes
[03:50] <jrib> you asked what the videoram line was
[03:51] <ckarini> then i just open firefox and type videoram?
[03:51] <ckarini> in a search thing
[03:51] <jrib> do you have the gentoo wiki page opened that you linked me to?
[03:51] <ckarini> no
[03:52] <jrib> ok, nevermind, it isn't important
[03:52] <ckarini> okay.
[03:52] <jrib> ckarini: what does 'free -m' say?
[03:53] <ckarini>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:53] <ckarini> Mem:           312        308          3          0          4         80
[03:53] <ckarini> -/+ buffers/cache:        223         89
[03:53] <ckarini> Swap:          619         64        554
[03:53] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~$
[03:53] <jrib> ok you have 312mb ram
[03:54] <jrib> we should allocate some of that to the video card
[03:55] <jrib> ckarini: would you like to try?
[04:27] <ckarini> yeah
[04:27] <ckarini> sorry it took so long
[04:27] <ckarini> wait, is it safe enough?
[04:31] <ckarini> hey jrib, what do i do
[04:32] <jrib> well
[04:32] <jrib> I can explain what to do in case it doesn't work
[04:32] <ckarini> okay
[04:32] <jrib> ok here is what we are basically going to do:
[04:32] <jrib> 1. backup xorg.conf
[04:32] <jrib> 2. edit xorg.conf and save changes
[04:33] <jrib> 3. restart X
[04:33] <jrib> X is the gui stuff
[04:33] <ckarini> okay
[04:33] <jrib> now when you restart X, if we mess up, it may fail to start
[04:33] <ckarini> so i put all that in the terminal?
[04:33] <jrib> no that's just my explanation, I will give you the commands after I explain what to do in case it doens't work
[04:34] <ckarini> okay, so if it doesnt work, i can fix it, right?
[04:34] <jrib> ok, ctrl-alt-f1 brings you to a tty (a terminal) and ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to the current "gui" display you have.  Try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 now to and then press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[04:34] <jrib> ckarini: yes
[04:35] <ckarini> uh......
[04:35] <ckarini> yeah
[04:35] <jrib> ckarini: ok, you saw some login window, once you login there you would get to a terminal.  Just like where you were entering commands before
[04:35] <ckarini> okay
[04:36] <jrib> ok write this down on a piece of papaer, remember capitalization is important:
[04:36] <ckarini> yeah
[04:36] <ckarini> alright
[04:36] <ckarini> ready
[04:36] <jrib> 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  do not execute this now.  This is for restoring the backup in case something goes wrong later
[04:38] <ckarini> oaky
[04:38] <jrib> so if something went wrong, you would hit ctrl-alt-f1, login, and enter that command.  Then you would restart X, with:  'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[04:39] <ckarini> okay
[04:39] <jrib> ok, that should get you back to your current configuration.  Now lets edit your current one
[04:39] <ckarini> hold on a minute
[04:42] <JVH> I don't want to interupt, but when time permits, I could use a little help.
[04:42] <jrib> JVH: what's the question?
[04:43] <JVH> I have installed Ubuntu server. I need to access routers and access point that use a web based config screens.
[04:43] <JVH> I can't find a browser anywhere in the system.
[04:44] <ckarini> okay
[04:44] <ckarini> so what am i doing
[04:44] <jrib> JVH: maybe  http://shon.org/blog/?p=22 ?  If you want, you can install X and have a gui with more choices.  Also, links2 is a good command line web browser, better than lynx that you could try
[04:45] <jrib> ckarini: create the backup:  'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[04:45] <ckarini> in the terminal?
[04:45] <jrib> ckarini: right
[04:45] <ckarini> okay
[04:46] <ckarini> okay, i did that
[04:46] <jrib> ckarini: 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:46] <JVH> I am brand new to Linux, I thought lynx was a test only browser?
[04:47] <jrib> JVH: you can browse the web with it if you want
[04:47] <ckarini> okay, i did that
[04:48] <JVH> ok I will give it a try, thought maybe mozilla, netscape, firefox was hidden somewhere in there.
[04:48] <jrib> JVH: you can isntall them if you want.  But you will need X to run them in
[04:49] <jrib> JVH: do you want a gui environment on the server?
[04:49] <ckarini> okay, it gave me some text file
[04:49] <jrib> ckarini: ok please go to line 92, it should say: Identifier"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "
[04:49] <JVH> Only if I need one. I am attempting to build an Asterisk PBX server.
[04:50] <jrib> JVH: k, my suggestion would be to try that suggestion about lynx on that blog.  If that doesn't work, try installing links2 (sudo apt-get install links2) and using that
[04:51] <ckarini> wait, i dont get it.
[04:51] <jrib> ckarini: right now you have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/ in your editor correct?
[04:52] <ckarini> yeah
[04:52] <jrib> ok, scroll down to the part that looks like (it starts on line 91):
[04:52] <JVH> What would be the command to install a gui? Like the desktop ubuntu has. Is that gnome?
[04:52] <jrib> 091. Section "Device"
[04:52] <jrib> 092. 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "
[04:52] <jrib> 093. 	Driver		"i810"
[04:52] <jrib> 094. 	BusID		"PCI:0:1:0"
[04:52] <ckarini> okay
[04:53] <ckarini> wait, i dont think it looks like that
[04:53] <jrib> JVH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will give you it all.  xubuntu-desktop and kubutnu-desktop are other options using xfce and kde, respectively.  You can also have lighter environments like fluxbox, openbox, etc
[04:53] <jrib> ckarini: that is what you pasted before
[04:54] <jrib> except where you see inverted I's, you should see tabs in your editor
[04:54] <jrib> and no line numbers
[04:54] <JVH> ok I will give it a try thanks jrib.
[04:54] <jrib> JVH: np
[04:54] <ckarini> yeah
[04:54] <jrib> ckarini: ok, you found it?
[04:54] <ckarini> but i cant find that one part
[04:55] <jrib> be more specific
[04:55] <jrib> press ctrl-f and enter i810, you should be there after a few hits
[04:55] <ckarini> oh wait, i round it
[04:55] <jrib> ok
[04:55] <ckarini> found it
[04:55] <ckarini> now what
[04:56] <jrib> now put a new line after   094. BusID"PCI:0:1:0"    that says:
[04:56] <jrib>        VideoRam        16384
[04:56] <ckarini> okay did it
[04:56] <jrib> that will give you 16 mb of video ram, I don't know if that is optimal for you or not, but you can explore later
[04:57] <jrib> 1024*16=16384 by the way
[04:57] <ckarini> okay, so what do i do with that
[04:57] <jrib> ok save it and then please pastebin what it looks like now
[04:58] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35516/
[04:59] <jrib> ckarini: ok, indent the line that you added so it matches with the others, just press TAB at the beginning of the line
[04:59] <jrib> I don't think it matters but just in case
[04:59] <ckarini> okay
[05:00] <ckarini> save it again?
[05:00] <jrib> yes
[05:00] <ckarini> k, now what
[05:00] <jrib> now we part and hopefully you will be back soon
[05:00] <jrib> save anything you are working on
[05:00] <ckarini> wait, what?
[05:01] <ckarini> so, your going, or, what
[05:01] <jrib> I am about to give you the command to restart X
[05:01] <ckarini> oh
[05:01] <jrib> that will close all your programs
[05:01] <ckarini> oh
[05:02] <jrib> ok, you know what to do in case it fails?  Worst case scenario, put in a live cd and visit #ubuntu again
[05:02] <ckarini> yeah
[05:02] <jrib> ctrl-alt-backspace   will restart X
[05:02] <ckarini> okay
[05:02] <ckarini> so when do i do that
[05:02] <jrib> now
[05:03] <ckarini> then what do i do after that
[05:03] <jrib> join me here again, or just try stepmania and see if it works
[05:03] <ckarini> okay,
[05:07] <jrib> 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[05:07] <ckarini> okay so it didnt work
[05:07] <ckarini> still no direct rendering
[05:08] <jrib> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the changes are there
[05:09] <ckarini> permission denied
[05:09] <jrib> 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' is the command.  gedit is a text editor and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a text file
[05:10] <ckarini> yeah, it had the video thing on it
[05:10] <jrib> idk then
[05:10] <ckarini> oh
[05:10] <jrib> try the forums and mailing list
[05:11] <ckarini> okay
[05:11] <jrib> or #ubuntu again
[05:11] <ckarini> thanks for all your help
[05:11] <jrib> maybe someone new knows
[05:11] <jrib> ckarini: n, hope you get it
[05:11] <jrib> n = no problem
[05:11] <ckarini> thanks
[05:11] <ckarini> alright
[05:11] <ckarini> ill see ya later
[05:11] <jrib> bye
[05:11] <ckarini> maybe
[05:11] <ckarini> see ya
[05:43] <unix_infidel> hey guys, wondering if the systems administration class went down on the 2nd or 3rd.
[05:43] <unix_infidel> I didnt see a lectururer posted at that time on the website, nor has a transcript been posted, so i was just curious.
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: I'm not aware of one, but I'm not sure
[05:45] <unix_infidel> tonyyarusso: i was referring to the post on the wiki.
[05:45] <unix_infidel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: I know what you meant - I didn't hear one happen.
[05:45] <unix_infidel> Personally, I think skipping 101 and going straight to Advanced Administration would be more beneficial :)
[05:45] <unix_infidel> tonyyarusso: thanks, I'll be looking for updates.
[05:46] <unix_infidel> Btw, nice lecture on gpg 101 a while back.
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: Thanks.  (I finally _did_ get those transcripts up...)
[05:46] <unix_infidel> :p


[02:29] <Abrax> hi
[02:30] <Abrax> Whatsup?
[02:43] <c_smith> not much.
[02:44] <c_smith> just downloading the Ubuntu Alternate ISO to test a function.
[02:46] <Abrax> cool
[02:46] <Abrax> i got a new camera today
[02:46] <Abrax> took some pics in our gardens
[02:48] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/l64id92p5/pic_36.jpg
[02:48] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/595qgjaax/pic_37.jpg
[02:48] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/qiordn17t/pic_28.jpg
[02:48] <Abrax> Great timing as new flowers were just planted
[02:49] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/hdkzxin6x/pic_30.jpg
[02:49] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/q77b0vkrt/pic_29.jpg
[02:49] <Abrax> http://s7.postimage.org/iz09pbxex/pic_34.jpg
[02:49] <Abrax> ok enough :D
[04:46] <bkerensa> hi Abrax
[17:46] <bkerensa> happy labor day weekend folks!
[20:38] <Abrax> hi folks
[20:45] <c_smith> heya
[20:45]  * c_smith is soon going to try again at an alternate installer, hoping he can get it to display properly


[22:23] <tsimonq2> o/ adueppen
[22:24] <adueppen> hi tsimonq2
[22:25] <tsimonq2> adueppen: a friendly bot named DragonEyes will invite you to the cool kids channel
[22:25] <tsimonq2> adueppen: nvm, just join #phillw
[22:41] <tsimonq2> h00k: curious, what's the status on the transition?


[00:31] <wxl> mhall119: belkinsa suggested i ask you what you think about having a loco do a uos session?
[00:35] <mhall119> wxl: I would love that, and other loco teams get inspired seeing that kind of thing, so it's a big +1 from me
[00:37] <wxl> mhall119: cool, i'll bring it up in our meeting tomorrow. i've taken over for bkerensa and i'm still trying to get some legs under the group, so there's not a TON of activity going on, but i figure we could at least hilight some cool things happening in oregon and some ideas i have on how locos spread out across wide geographic areas can unite together.
[00:37] <wxl> mhall119: only thing is i need someone else to do it because i'm doing a session for lubuntu XD
[14:03] <mhall119> wxl: you can't do two sessions?
[14:03] <mhall119> :)
[17:39] <wxl> mhall119: well, sure, it's possible. but i've only got so much time…
[17:39] <mhall119> wxl: understood, hence the :)
[17:41] <wxl> mhall119: oh missed that one. i lastlogged for highlights only. :)


[21:52] <AbuOba> Hi, I have bug in ubuntu budgie 18.04
[21:52] <AbuOba> I cannot change language in lock screen


[14:25] <odin_> hello, can anyone assist with how to change the URL for automated source code import from remote SCM ?
[14:26] <odin_> gitorious.org is no more, so I need to change the import location to point to github.com
[14:27] <odin_> https://code.launchpad.net/~qtjambi-community/qtjambi/master  this is the relevant SCM import that is now broken
[14:29] <odin_> also both remote SCM systems are git, can it resync, keeping the BZR revision numbers intact ?
[14:29] <dobey> odin_: delete the branch and create a new import
[14:30] <dobey> odin_: no, the bzr revno is unrelated to what the git revision numbers are. they are not persistent, and will change at next import, if someone does a rebase on the git master tree for example
[14:31] <odin_> if I delete the branch, there are 10 recipies using it, they still remain intact (but broken) ?
[14:31] <odin_> when I re-create the branch those recipies will start using the changed data ?
[14:50] <dobey> odin_: oh no, the recipes will be deleted i think
[14:50] <dobey> or they will prevent you from deleting the branch or something
[14:51] <dobey> so you might just need to create a new import and then change the recipes to use the new branch
[14:51] <dobey> or you might be able to just edit the url
[14:51] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~qtjambi-community/qtjambi/master/+edit-import
[14:52] <dobey> sometimes it doesn't work so nice, but since they're both still git, it might be doable
[15:04] <odin_> Not allowed here ... https://code.launchpad.net/~qtjambi-community/qtjambi/master/+edit-import
[15:04] <dobey> what's the new git URL?
[15:04] <cjwatson> It's usually best to create a new import
[15:05] <cjwatson> Although
[15:05] <cjwatson> odin_: Was the gitorious repository just moved directly to github?
[15:05] <cjwatson> Not a reimport or anything?
[15:05] <odin_> moved directly ?  yes I believe the history is intact
[15:06] <cjwatson> OK, bzr history can stay intact then
[15:06] <cjwatson> odin_: Is it https://github.com/qtjambi/qtjambi ?
[15:06] <odin_> does launchpad prefer a git: or https: ?
[15:06] <odin_> yes that is new URL
[15:06] <cjwatson> odin_: I've updated it for you
[15:06] <dobey> ah
[15:07] <dobey> i guess i won't do it then :)
[15:08] <cjwatson> https://code.launchpad.net/~qtjambi-community/qtjambi/master shows the latest revisions now
[15:17] <odin_> ah great all looks to be building now, and some much needed maintenance completed (all but fixing build issues)
[15:17] <odin_> updated project to include: utopic, vivid, wily
[15:31] <Peng> https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys <- wonder if anyone's scanned LP
[16:08] <odin_> in "control" file Build-Depends can I use something like "package-name (>= 3.4 || >= 2:0.0 || >= 3:0.0)"  ?
[16:10] <cjwatson> odin_: That's synonymous with "package-name (>= 3.4)", since 2:0.0 >= 3.4
[16:10] <odin_> but can I use || expression there ?
[16:10] <cjwatson> You could write "package-name (>= 3.4) | package-name (>= 2:0.0) | package-name (>= 3:0.0)", but no point in this case.
[16:11] <odin_> ok understand
[16:11] <cjwatson> You can't use | inside the parentheses.
[16:11] <odin_> well my example is contrived, but am trying to understand why packages are listed in http://packages.ubuntu.com/search but not picked up during build
[16:12] <cjwatson> It would be easier if you linked to the build
[16:14] <odin_> can I make a build package "optional" ?
[16:14] <cjwatson> You can do Build-Depends: foo | base-files
[16:15] <cjwatson> Which has much the same effect.  It introduces variability which may not be a good idea though
[16:54] <jhobbs> are draft inline comments on a MP lost if someone pushes an update to the MP/
[16:59] <jhobbs> yes.. yes they are.
[17:40] <dobey> jhobbs: draft? you mean if you reload the page, before hitting the submit button on the comment form?
[17:41] <jhobbs> dobey: yeah
[17:41] <jhobbs> they are still there if you just reload the page or open it in another window
[17:41] <jhobbs> but if someone pushes a new revision of the branch being merged they go away
[17:42] <dobey> odd. i'm not quite sure how it is implemented, but i'm guessing your browser cleared the form when the page ETag or whatever changed
[17:43] <jhobbs> well, the comments are stored server side, just not published for others to see until you save the comment
[17:43] <jhobbs> inline comments specifically, not the textbox contents
[17:44] <dobey> they only stored on the server after you submit the form, afaik
[17:45] <jhobbs> naw, the inline comments are server side as soon as you add one. just checked and i can see it in firefox when adding in chrome
[17:52] <dobey> oh, weird


[12:51] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, do you have any ETA (if it will happen) to see src:linux point to version 5.5+?
[12:51] <LocutusOfBorg> stuff like libgpiod is BD failing because it needs kernel 5.5
[13:25] <sforshee> LocutusOfBorg: it will happen, it's been slow to due to some missing pieces which got delayed due to other urgent work
[13:25] <sforshee> I don't have a good estimate for you, I'd hope we'd have something in -proposed at least in the next couple of weeks
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks