[00:00] <hiexpo> hola all
[00:00] <Wiesshund> ZenMasta numlock?
[00:00] <VCoolio> ZenMasta: I think ctrl+alt+numlock is the keybinding to toggle numpad/mouse movements
[00:00] <ZenMasta> well, to be continued gotta go. Thanks anyway though
[00:00] <ZenMasta> i'll give that a shot when I get home. writing it down now
[00:00] <ZenMasta> thanks
[00:01] <hiexpo> what is the differance on the 10.04 alternative and dexktop?
[00:01] <gordonjcp> if anyone's interested, what I did was boot the .iso image with qemu, with the whole disk I want to install onto a partition of as qemu's hard disk
[00:01] <jrib> RobotCow: start your own ppa :)  You can even have it automatically pull git and build the package for you
[00:01] <Irreducibilis> There's no way to pause an update?
[00:01] <gordonjcp> it's pretty slow but the installer is running now
[00:01] <bazhang> Irreducibilis, no
[00:01] <Irreducibilis> Damn.
[00:02] <gordonjcp> it's a shame it's not easier to just install Ubuntu from removable media
[00:02] <RobotCow> hiexpo, gui installer vs ncurses (debian installer) with more options for advanced users like setting up raid and/or LVM
[00:02] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp hmm? ubuntu installs from removable media
[00:02] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: how?
[00:02] <hiexpo> oh ok
[00:02] <jgcampbell300> hello, I am looking for a piece of software for ubuntu that will let me draw out a flowchart of my network i am building so i can visualize what i am about to do. Do any of you have any suggestions. Please keep in mind I am not looking for something extremely complex.
[00:02] <bidaboy> hi all,when i try to mount an ntfs partition i got this error msg : Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[00:02] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I've been trying to find accurate documentation on it all evening
[00:03] <Wiesshund> you can install it from cd or usb drive easily
[00:03] <brontoeee> jgcampbell300, maybe yed, its java app
[00:03] <greppy> jgcampbell300: look at dia
[00:03] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: there's no USB image availagle
[00:03] <rtdos_AFK> sorry guys, i was installing a script in xchat and didn't see that my preferences conflicted with the script. :">
[00:03] <gordonjcp> *available
[00:03] <Dangr_> Test
[00:03] <Dangr_> Ok that we go
[00:03] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: and just dd-ing the image to a USB stick doesn't appear to work for Ubuntu
[00:03] <jgcampbell300> thanks for the suggestions ... i will look them up now
[00:04] <Irreducibilis> What if my laptop goes to sleep on it's own when its updating? Will that screw it up too?
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I tried unetbootin but it was messy and confusing, and still didn't actually write anything resembling a bootable image to the USB stick
[00:04] <bazhang> Irreducibilis, it wont
[00:04] <Irreducibilis> I'm basically worried that I have to sit here and babysit it
[00:04] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:04] <brontoeee> jgcampbell300, also there are some nice online sites that offer such software
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: doesn't work
[00:04] <Irreducibilis> Oh okay.
[00:04] <trakinas> dodgy_script: if you have a ssh server, is possible. =P
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: it doesn't actually produce anything that boots on any machine I've tried it in
[00:05] <DiamondSword> gordonjcp, you're trying to install ubuntu from the usb?
[00:05] <gordonjcp> DiamondSword: I *was*, but now I'm just doing something a bit evil with qemu
[00:06] <bidaboy> any suggestion ?
[00:06] <rostami> \exit
[00:06] <DiamondSword> gordonjcp, i installed this ubuntu from my usb today. and all was fine.
[00:06] <gordonjcp> DiamondSword: I didn't get anywhere with trying to put the Ubuntu installer on a USB stick
[00:06] <gordonjcp> DiamondSword: what did you use to copy it across?
[00:06] <rostami> quit
[00:06] <rostami> exit
[00:06] <DiamondSword> gordonjcp, you need to fist download the .iso file. did you?
[00:07] <gordonjcp> DiamondSword: yes, of course, that's what qemu has booted
[00:07] <dodgy_script> trakinas, wow whats that i mean how do you use it  i can ssh -X me@box2
[00:07] <agnostic> Question: What is a good Latex-Editor with preview for Lucid Lynx?
[00:07] <VCoolio> agnostic: gedit has a plugin which works fine; and gummi is ok
[00:08] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp does your system normal boot from the usb drive ok?
[00:08] <Wiesshund> normaly*
[00:08] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: how else would I install an OS?
[00:08] <DiamondSword> gordonjcp, go there http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download and follows the instructions at step 2.
[00:08] <DiamondSword> *follow
[00:08] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp cd?
[00:09] <DiamondSword> after that, gordonjcp, you just need to change it boot from usb in your bios at starting.
[00:09] <agnostic> VCoolio: I can not install gummi. It refers to old packages, which are not supported anymore :-(
[00:09] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I can't remember the last time I saw a CD drive
[00:09] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I wouldn't even know where to buy one
[00:09] <foolhardy> has anyone had any luck with iwconfig in ubuntu 10.10?
[00:09] <VCoolio> agnostic: package gedit-latex-plugin from universe repo, and gummi has seen a lot of updates lately, see if there is a repo for it or compile it
[00:10] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp hehe anyplace that sells computer hardware
[00:10] <foolhardy> ubuntu appears to recognize my card and have driver but I've gone through 2 iwconfig guides and I still can't pull an IP from my router
[00:10] <agnostic> VCoolio: repo?
[00:10] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: around here they just look at you funny and tell you to go back to ten years ago
[00:11] <VCoolio> agnostic: package database where the package manager gets the stuff from, you can add more, for example from launchpad.net
[00:11] <hiexpo> hmm
[00:11] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp heh ask them how would they then chose to install retail software and operating systems etc.
[00:11] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I don't understand
[00:11] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, install arp-scan
[00:11] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, thanks
[00:12] <ubun> does anyone know how to restore default ubuntu 10.10 fonts
[00:12] <agnostic> VCoolio. I chanched the source according to a tutorial. (first it didnt now gummi at all) But then it said, that the packages on which it depends, are to old.
[00:12] <hiexpo> busy today
[00:12] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp you buy er say Halo (just agree) it comes on a disc, you buy windows it comes on a disc, you buy ubuntu (yea you can buy a hard copy) it comes on a disk
[00:12] <VCoolio> agnostic: https://launchpad.net/~gummi/+archive/gummi
[00:13] <hiexpo> these colors are a pain on xchat
[00:13] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: oh, okay
[00:13] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I've no idea, I don't really know anything about Windows
[00:14] <VCoolio> agnostic: also there are pdf viewers that refresh pdf's if they changed, which results in a preview-like experience; evince also does that, so then any editor will do
[00:14] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: I suppose I thought they must just netboot the machines or something
[00:14] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: it's not really something I've thought about
[00:14] <agnostic> VCoolio: Evince?
[00:15] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, sudo arp-scan -I wlan0 -l
[00:15] <I_C_Wiener> hey people, i cant add or delet anything on my mp3 player, ist mounted properly, icant even do anything as root
[00:16] <VCoolio> agnostic: aka 'document viewer' which is a ridiculous name, but anyway
[00:16] <gordonjcp> Wiesshund: surely manufacturers don't sit with a CD and install computers one at a time like that?
[00:16] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: How did you mount it?
[00:16] <I_C_Wiener> i plug it in
[00:16] <DiamondSword> my archive manager can't open .rar files, where do i go wrong? any ideas?
[00:16] <I_C_Wiener> pugged*
[00:16] <I_C_Wiener> lol
[00:16] <agnostic> VCoolio: Strangely, I could install gummi now. But i don't know why^^ I didnt chanche anything....
[00:16] <agnostic> VCoolio: But thanks ;-)
[00:17] <agnostic> *change
[00:17] <x_> can anyone help with spdif on ubuntu 10.10?
[00:17] <jrib> !rar | DiamondSword
[00:17] <I_C_Wiener> @soeau /dev/sdb on /media/ARCHOS type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[00:17] <Wiesshund> gordonjcp no, but then niether does the average pc owner have the cash to set up a mass imager in his house, but he can afford a disc drive
[00:17] <eross> hey, i have windoze on another harddrive (instead of the C: master drive), how can I set up grub to boot from either harddrive instead of going into the BIOS and switching the harddrive position?
[00:17] <VCoolio> agnostic: check the link anyway, you may like a newer version of gummi with new features, check the homepage
[00:17] <DiamondSword> jrib, This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates.
[00:17] <greppy> !ot > Wiesshund
[00:17] <I_C_Wiener> @soreau /dev/sdb on /media/ARCHOS type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[00:17] <jrib> DiamondSword: delete the '.' at the end...
[00:17] <DiamondSword> ah.
[00:18] <agnostic> VCoolio: It's what I did before according to a german manuall ;-)
[00:18] <trojan_spike> any1 know of a good stress test?? Graphics and cpu?
[00:18] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: Try remounting it but use no args like sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/ARCHOS
[00:18] <agnostic> VCoolio: It's the newest version :-)
[00:18] <I_C_Wiener> did so didnt help
[00:18] <DiamondSword> jrib, it says "Archive type not supported"
[00:19] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: What are your permissions on /media/ARCHOS dir?
[00:19] <I_C_Wiener> dunno, how to check
[00:19] <jrib> what is "it" in your sentence?
[00:19] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: Did you check dmesg output for any interesting messages?
[00:19] <I_C_Wiener> nope
[00:19] <I_C_Wiener> dont even know what dmesg is
[00:19] <KipMacy> how does the Alternate CD manage to put /boot on an encrypted partition if i want it to?
[00:19] <protie> dodgy... is armscan anything like wifiscan? Had problems with that one
[00:20] <Wiesshund> eross sudo update-grub should see windows on the other partition and add it to the boot menu automaticaly
[00:20] <protie> arp that is
[00:20] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: dmesg is a command to output your system log to terminal. See sys>admin>log file viewer
[00:20] <r0dy4> exit
[00:21] <eross> thanks Wiesshund :)
[00:21] <DiamondSword> jrib, it = archive manager
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> @sorau [  379.727843] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdb)
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> [  379.727848]     fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> [  379.727852] FAT: Filesystem has been set read-only
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> [  381.314556] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdb)
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> [  381.314561]     fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
[00:22] <jrib> DiamondSword: did you do what ubottu's link told you to do in order to view rar files in archive manager?
[00:22] <FloodBot2> I_C_Wiener: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> all the time
[00:22] <I_C_Wiener> -.-
[00:22] <DiamondSword> yes. i clicked on "Extract Here" and not worked and i double-clicked and not worked.
[00:22] <Rave1> I thought removing indicator-me via synaptic would remove the envelope on the panel     it did not    I have ubuntu 10.04 installed
[00:23] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: Have you tried mounting it in any other OS or are you sure the file system is not corrupt on the device?
[00:23] <I_C_Wiener> did ou get anything?
[00:23] <jrib> DiamondSword: no.  Read the section on Rar files: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#Rar%20(.rar)
[00:23] <I_C_Wiener> the mp3 player works fine
[00:23] <I_C_Wiener> no other os yet tried
[00:24] <I_C_Wiener> @soreau, [  381.314561]     fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0) thats what im geting
[00:24] <dodgy_script> protie,  arp-scan is a low level scan should work !
[00:24] <DiamondSword> so jrib, i need to download "unrar free" package? but i don't know how to..
[00:25] <gordonjcp> ah, white on black terminal again, I was beginning to think my monitor was failing
[00:25] <bazhang> DiamondSword, from the repos
[00:25] <DiamondSword> repos?
[00:25] <greppy> DiamondSword: using aptitude or apt-get
[00:25] <bazhang> !software | DiamondSword
[00:25] <greppy> DiamondSword: or whatever package manager you are using.
[00:25] <protie> thanks dodgy
[00:25] <jrib> DiamondSword: you probably want the "unrar" package.  Not "unrar-free".  The link explains why.  You install them using an APT frontend like synaptic or Add/Remove programs
[00:25] <bazhang> !manual | DiamondSword read this
[00:26] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: Try this: sudo umount /dev/sdb && sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb -a -w
[00:26] <x_> iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0
[00:26] <x_>  wont work for me....
[00:26] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, what would be the command to install arp-scan?
[00:26] <I_C_Wiener> and?
[00:27] <I_C_Wiener> sudo umount /dev/sdb && sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb -a -w
[00:27] <I_C_Wiener> sry
[00:27] <I_C_Wiener> FATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT.
[00:27] <foolhardy> nvm, got it dodgy_script
[00:28] <DrDeathly> how do I access a network file server from ubuntu?
[00:28] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, you can just type  arp  on its own  i think give you your ip
[00:29] <DrDeathly> NAS
[00:29] <gordonjcp> okay, I give in, where does Ubuntu keep its startup sound and gdm "ready" sound?
[00:29] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, after running that command I don't have an IP
[00:29] <foolhardy> access point: not-associated
[00:29] <induz> why i get this http://i.imgur.com/mNlZg.png
[00:30] <I_C_Wiener> @soreau, - random/file Contains a free cluster (608000). Assuming EOF.
[00:30] <gordonjcp> found you! time to apply some accurately-aimed rm -rf lovin'
[00:30] <induz> is there some problem with sun java http://i.imgur.com/Kxfby.png
[00:30] <induz> I have java insytlled
[00:30] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  are you connected to a network
[00:31] <induz> java is installed
[00:31] <adamkex> how can i do "control alt f1" in virtualbox?
[00:31] <induz> but i get this http://i.imgur.com/Kxfby.png
[00:31] <soreau> gordonjcp: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg for the login sound
[00:31] <foolhardy> i'm not yet. I guess I need to connect to it then run arp-scan dodgy_script ?
[00:31] <jgcampbell300> is there a command apt-get *something* to find a program
[00:31] <adamkex> i only end up in the virtual terminal of the host
[00:31] <jrib> jgcampbell300: apt-cache searhc
[00:31] <adamkex> jpds: aptitude search
[00:31] <jrib> jgcampbell300: apt-cache search
[00:31] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: After it's finished, remount the drive and try again
[00:31] <gordonjcp> soreau: yup, found it, now I just need to find and rm that damned annoying conga slap that gdm has
[00:31] <jrib> !apt | jgcampbell300
[00:31] <jgcampbell300> thank you
[00:31] <jrib> adamkex: try #vbox
[00:32] <I_C_Wiener> @soreau fixed it ty
[00:32] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  yep indeed you need to be connected for an ip !
[00:32] <blocky> so I've got a problem with the nVidia X control panel, I've enabled an external display on my laptop in twinview, and it's working fine except it's not allowing the offset of the second screen(it's higher than the other)
[00:32] <soreau> I_C_Wiener: :)
[00:33] <gordonjcp> soreau: unfortunately I've found that sound control panels are unreliable and some things still insist on making wee beeps and bloops despite setting "no sounds"
[00:33] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, i can join a network but I can't get an IP
[00:33] <soreau> gordonjcp: I can't find the bongos audio file
[00:33] <soreau> gordonjcp: Yes I noticed that as well
[00:33] <gordonjcp> soreau: yeah, might be a .wav instead of .ogg?
[00:33] <soreau> anything is possible
[00:33] <gordonjcp> soreau: my PC is frequently hooked up to radio equipment - I don't want it to *ever* make a sound that I haven't explicitly told it to ;-)
[00:33] <soreau> ah indeed o.O
[00:34] <x_> so no one knows anything about spdif in here huh?
[00:34] <gordonjcp> soreau: I actually ran a wee contest for some software I wrote, for software-defined radio
[00:34] <gordonjcp> x_: it very much depends what you want to know
[00:34] <gordonjcp> soreau: "Find the Windows Bong"
[00:34] <x_> gordonjcp, why mine doesn't work I really need someone to help me out
[00:34] <soreau> ! work | x_
[00:34] <trakinas> does anyone here ever used javafx to play h264?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> soreau: somewhere in a ten-minute recording of a 48kHz-wide chunk of the 7MHz amateur band, there were three distinct Windows <Choonk> error bonks
[00:35] <stefanos90> hello, which programm should i use to build a site? like frontpage? ubuntu
[00:35] <soreau> gordonjcp: nice :p
[00:35] <gordonjcp> stefanos90: gedit!
[00:35] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  have you got an ip when you use network tools
[00:35] <foolhardy> I haven't tried "network tools" -- sudo network tools ?
[00:35] <x_> soreau, no output from my spdif with it set to default pcm in alsamixer and everything unmuted, I however do not have a volume slider on iec958 just a mute unmute... realtek alc888
[00:35] <ha-ny> hola, estoy intentando eliminar un controlador y me da este error: SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[00:36] <gordonjcp> soreau: sound card to transmitter, transmitter set to VOX (Voice Operated Transmit) so when you start sending data it keys the transmitter
[00:36] <Pici> !es | ha-ny
[00:36] <blocky> lol, so apparently ctrl + L clears the buffer in xchat... I thought chrome had the focus
[00:36] <trakinas> ha-ny: #ubutnu-es
[00:36] <ha-ny> oh sorry i thought i was in ubuntu-es
[00:36] <ha-ny> sorry
[00:36] <gordonjcp> x_: typically spdif wouldn't have a volume control
[00:36] <stefanos90> gordonjcp , no i am not so expert, i need sth with graphics
[00:36] <x_> gordonjcp, well I get no output to my receiver with coax or optical.
[00:36] <trakinas> blocky: I always type exit (without / ) to disconnect.
[00:36] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  i mean the gui interface in administration menu
[00:36] <gordonjcp> x_: are you sure the thing you're plugging into is receiving sp/dif correctly?
[00:36] <soreau> ha-ny: You need to close all other package managers such as synaptic and update manager
[00:37] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, no gui
[00:37] <foolhardy> just cli
[00:37] <x_> gordonjcp, its a 7.1 amp. it should be fine. optical isn't showing any red light out of the wire on ubuntu anyway.
[00:37] <foolhardy> basically, I'm just trying to setup a wifi connection via the cli
[00:37] <foolhardy> with wpa
[00:37] <gordonjcp> stefanos90: it's actually pretty easy once you get your head round it, and if you code them by hand your sites will be faster and not suck
[00:37] <x_> gordonjcp, my cable box spdif works fine on the same amp
[00:37] <soreau> foolhardy: You want to use wpa_supplicant then
[00:37] <gordonjcp> x_: sounds like your s/pdif output isn't even enabled
[00:37] <foolhardy> arp-scan just returned about 5 pages
[00:37] <foolhardy> wpa_supplicant
[00:38] <x_> gordonjcp, my bios only has settings for onboard audio on / off
[00:38] <gordonjcp> x_: all I can suggest is hitting Google for information about your card
[00:38] <x_> gordonjcp, I have and all I find is other people with the same issues, I posted on the forums too no reply.
[00:38] <gordonjcp> x_: maybe it's badly supported then
 i dont know php.. i am studing other languages is any programm?
[00:38] <x_> gordonjcp, every pc pretty much comes with realtek/intel hd audio though ...
[00:38] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, "sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant" can't find package
[00:39] <gordonjcp> x_: from experience, stereo s/pdif is usually okay but trying to get multi-channel working is ridiculous
[00:39] <x_> gordonjcp, I might just be missing something stupid but I dont think so since I can get hdmi to work by editing /etc/pulse/default.pa
[00:39] <gordonjcp> x_: it's something I'm going to look into later, for some of my audio work
[00:39] <Rypervenche> If I start to run out of hard drive space, will it slow down my Ubuntu system like it does on Windows?
[00:40] <x_> gordonjcp, are you an audio dev on ubuntu{
[00:40] <trakinas> stefanos90: PHP is easy to learn. and html + css is simple and your code will be much more clean and clear if you code your self. is really simple.
[00:40] <Toxicsgz> Any idea why the linuxmint 10 and ubuntu 10.10 installers cannot find my HD when my Ubuntu 9.04 installer sees it clear as day?
[00:40] <gordonjcp> x_: I'm an audio dev, but I mostly work on Arch Linux
[00:40] <gordonjcp> x_: I don't like pulseaudio much, though
[00:40] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  what is it that you are trying to do?  im guessing your on the net !
[00:40] <x_> gordonjcp, ive tried alsa too and it didn't work. I don't get this at all
[00:41] <gordonjcp> you know what, I'm going to kick off an upgrade to 10.10
[00:41] <stefanos90> trakinas, i am in univeristy and we haveexams.. i cant start it now
[00:41] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, i've got a separate box with a light ubuntu install (xbmc live). I'm just trying to get it to connect to my wlan
[00:41] <foolhardy> it has wpa
[00:41] <foolhardy> and I only have the cli, no gui
[00:42] <x_> gordonjcp, Im hoping I dont have to really go to windows 7 to get spdif this is a shame.
[00:42] <trakinas> stefanos90: for what reason do you want to build this webpage? but to answer your question, I think komposer may suit your needs.
[00:42] <gordonjcp> x_: I have no idea how sound works in Windows, I've never used it
[00:42] <trakinas> is not a dreamweaver-like, but definitely can do what frontpage can.
[00:43] <Rypervenche> If I start to run out of hard drive space, will it slow down my Ubuntu system like it does on Windows?
 i will start studing php and just want to test some ffree servers.. thank you will try
[00:43] <Wiesshund> x_ what audio card do you have?
[00:43] <gordonjcp> x_: I tried XP but my soundcard wasn't supported, so I gave up on it until I have more time
[00:44] <x_> Wiesshund, alc888 realtek/intel hd
[00:44] <trakinas> Rypervenche: probably not.
[00:44] <x_> Wiesshund, shows up as alc887-vd in ubuntu though.
 it is kompozer.. :)
[00:44] <Wiesshund> x_ is it an onboard?
[00:44] <x_> Wiesshund, yea on a brand new gigabyte i3 mobo
[00:45] <trakinas> Rypervenche: if Im not wrong, windows become slower because of the pagination file. since you have a separate partition with your swap, I *think* it won't be slower.
[00:45] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, no x then lol ... is dhclient installed ?
[00:45] <Wiesshund> Rypervenche running out of disk space doesnt really do any OS much favors. but if you have swap on a spearate partition it should keep running ok
[00:45] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, I have tried running it and i get returned "no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[00:46] <Diamondcite> trakinas: If the swap partition is on the same disk as the OS, it will still have some effects if swap is used alot.
[00:46] <trakinas> Diamondcite: I thought so, but OS is not my speciality. thanks
[00:46] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, but iwconfig shows that I have the correct network and pass and all configured
[00:46] <jgcampbell300> I am thinking of setting up a linux server to run a media server, deluged, and a few other smaller servers ... my question is would ubuntu server be a good os to use or should i be looking for a less resource intensive solution ?
[00:47] <Rypervenche> Wiesshund: Ok, thank you.
[00:47] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, but no ip address
[00:47] <greppy> jgcampbell300: if you install ubuntu server it should be fine, I use it to serve up movies on my home network.
[00:48] <Wiesshund> x_ it doesnt look like that audio solution has exactly full capabilities in ubuntu, least not yet
[00:48] <foolhardy> how can I check for an ip dodgy_script ? - what is the cli's ipconfig
[00:48] <Diamondcite> Rypervenche: Ubuntu might work a little better than windows, as Wiesshund stated, swap is on another partition, so running out of disk space won't hurt much, system will keep running. Since linux has reserved 5% of each partition for itself for CRITICAL tasks, even when you run out of useable diskspace, important information is still being stored and written, unlike windows which stops ^_^
[00:48] <greppy> foolhardy: ifconfig
[00:48] <x_> Wiesshund, so thats why my spdif doesn't work? and can you tell me where you figured that out
[00:49] <dodgy_script> foolhardy, ifconfig , or iwconfig
[00:49] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, I have no ip on wlan0
[00:49] <foolhardy> -only on eth0
[00:49] <jgcampbell300> greppy: what kind of hardware are you running it on, the box I have available is 1ghz, 512Mb, 10/100 x3
[00:50] <Rypervenche> Diamondcite: Ah ok, I still ihave about 20 GB left, I was just curious if I should be worried or if I can still use up some more space without worrying too much about performance.
[00:50] <dodgy_script> type   ifconfig
[00:50] <Diamondcite> Rypervenche: Well then, to put your mind at ease, I've run my /home to 0bytes left 4 times since this month started ^_^
[00:50] <greppy> jgcampbell300: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, which is 1ghz with 1 gig of ram.
[00:51] <trakinas> Diamondcite: 400MB here. almost there!
[00:51] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, after ifconfig I show no inet addr for wlan0
[00:52] <jgcampbell300> greppy: do you see many problems with 1G memory and do you think 512 would do it ?
[00:53] <kanja1> I just used dist-upgrade to update my system from jaunty to natty - I'm trying to apt-get python-virtuanenv, but it's getting placed in my old (python2.6) python version - env python is spitting out 2.7. Is this is a problem with env giving me the wrong version or with apt get installing to the wrong location
[00:53] <oddtod> greppy: Heyo greppy
[00:53] <Wiesshund> x_ have you tried looking at the alsa commandline mixer?
[00:53] <greppy> jgcampbell300: depends on what you are going to do with it, I haven't had any problems with my setup streaming .ISO of dvd's using vlc.
[00:54] <x_> Wiesshund, alsamixer ?
[00:54] <nishttal2> how do i completely remove apparmor
[00:54] <Wiesshund> x_ in terminal run alsamixer
[00:55] <nishttal2> anyone?
[00:55] <kanja1> looking at launchpad, the default python version is 2.7 - so apt is placing the installed python files into the wrong place. Does anyone know how I can control that?
[00:55] <Wiesshund> x_ see if you have an option to enable device IEC958 or similar
[00:55] <x_> Wiesshund, yea, I know how trust me :\ iec958 is unmuted and set to default pcm everything else is unmuted too..
[00:55] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  what is the name of your connection wlan0 or eth0
[00:55] <foolhardy> wlan0
[00:55] <jgcampbell300> greppy: i have not had much luck streaming so far ... i have been using my ubuntu desktop runing mediatomb and converting my dvds to avi to save space ... but it seems to freezing problems from time to time
[00:56] <Wiesshund> x_ in alsa mixer or ?
[00:56] <x_> Wiesshund, yea alsamixer
[00:56] <induz>  how can i repo for Sun-Report-Builder
[00:56] <x_> Wiesshund, and Im using the green jack.
[00:56] <induz> on Lucid
[00:56] <melkor> Has anybody here successfully installed gnome 3 ?
[00:57] <greppy> jgcampbell300: ah, I just used dd to make images of my dvd's and share them out using samba
[00:57] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, wlan0
[00:57] <induz> I get this  Conflicts: openoffice.org-java-common (>=1:<IP_ADDRESS>) but 1:3.2.1-6ubuntu2~10.04.1 is to be installed
[00:57] <greppy> jgcampbell300: I bought 2 2T drives to hold dvd isos :)
[00:57] <drahx> hey guys, how can I remove display drivers?
[00:58] <bsmith093> i have a vostro 1710 dell laptop and every so often my touchpad wont respond on startup, usually rebooting fixes it, but i found a fix for the grub kernel config i8042.reset but where do i put it in lucid?
[00:58] <jgcampbell300> greppy: what watch your movies on ... I have been using my ps3
[00:58] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,   did you follow the instructions to set it up
[00:58] <greppy> jgcampbell300: my desktop or laptop or the asus eee pc plugged into the tv.
[00:58] <drahx> I use a tablet to stream movies in bed :-)
[00:58] <foolhardy> instructions? I missed a link if you posted one
[00:58] <foolhardy> dodgy_script,
[00:59] <foolhardy> ^
[00:59] <jgcampbell300> greppy: I see, maybe my problem is with the ps3 its self. I think before I go any further I will hook my notebook up to the tv and see how it handles. Thank you for your Input.
[00:59] <drahx> Any ideas on how I can remove my ATI drivers?
[00:59] <Wiesshund> x_ i see people running that audio chip in mythbuntu and studio, but not vanilla, you might try asking around one of those channels
[00:59] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  is it for windows / mac/ or what?
[01:00] <melkor> drahx which version?
[01:00] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, I don't understand. I have a light ubuntu install. no windows, no mac. I'm trying to get my wifi card to connect to my wlan. iwconfig shows that the card's drivers are installed
[01:00] <Wiesshund> drahx system > admin > hardware drivers
[01:01] <foolhardy> dodgy_script, how can I tell if I'm connected to the wlan and not receiving an ip vs not connectedt o the wlan at all?
[01:01] <x_> Wiesshund, according to the realtek driver dl for linux this chip works, and my analog out works
[01:02] <melkor> foolhardy: you need to set the ssid to your wireless ssid.
[01:02] <melkor> foolhardy: there is not really a 'connected without an ip state'
[01:02] <foolhardy> melkor, I have the essid set
[01:02] <foolhardy> need I also set ssid?
[01:02] <Wiesshund> x_ have you tried any of these kinds of fixes? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1084436
[01:02] <dodgy_script> foolhardy,  your not connected!
[01:03] <melkor> foolhardy: is it an encrypted network?
[01:03] <foolhardy> melkor, yes, wpa
[01:03] <melkor> foolhardy: then you will need to use wpa_supplicant.
[01:03] <myradlife_> What is the meaning of "gethostby*.getanswer:" in /var/log/auth.log?  here is an example http://pastebin.com/4mMD0gYY
[01:03] <melkor> foolhardy: you are using completely cmd line?
[01:04] <foolhardy> melkor, i asked about that a while ago. how do I install that? sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant returns couldn't find package wpa_supplicant. Yes, I am only cli
[01:04] <greppy> foolhardy: after doing a "apt-cache search wpa" I came up with "wpasupplicant" try that instead.
[01:05] <melkor> foolhardy: you need the repo to get wpa_supplicant, if it is on the cd then put the cd in, or you need to connect to the internet.
[01:05] <x_> Wiesshund, the bottom post and reboot ?
[01:05] <foolhardy> ok, i aparently already have wpasupplicant installed
[01:05] <greppy> foolhardy: there is also wicd-cli and wicd-curses, never used it, or wpasupplicant for that matter ,but it might help.
[01:06] <foolhardy> how does one use wpasupplicant?
[01:06] <melkor> foolhardy: so you can run wpa_supplicant?  (don run it but see if it is there.)
[01:06] <Wiesshund> x_ the post where the guy showed how he was modding his alsa setup manualy
[01:06] <foolhardy> melkor, "wpasupplicant is already the newest version"
[01:06] <x_> Wiesshund, which one?
[01:06] <melkor> foolhardy: then you need to create a config file.
[01:07] <foolhardy> melkor, ok. to do that I need to use nano or vi?
[01:07] <melkor> foolhardy: I have used wicd and it was real easy, but I did not use the wicd-curses, but it could be easy
[01:08] <melkor> foolhardy: choose your poison, nano is easiest.
[01:08] <Wiesshund> x_ yes last post on that page
[01:08] <x_> Wiesshund, ok ill try it thanks
[01:09] <melkor> foolhardy: you need to run wpa_passphrase
[01:10] <foolhardy> is that something I need to install also melko?
[01:10] <foolhardy> melkor, ?
[01:10] <melkor> foolhardy: it will give you instructions.  It should have come with wpa supplicant.
[01:12] <melkor> foolhardy: try to install the wicd-curses, that is a cmd line program for setting up your wireless.  You should be able to just type in your ssid and your passphrase without making a config file.
[01:12] <akagi82> is there a japan channel i can join?
[01:12] <foolhardy> melkor, after using wpa_passphrase should it connect automatically?
[01:13] <wedwo-> akagi82, #ubuntu-jp
[01:13] <melkor> foolhardy: no that converts you passphrase to a psk that you use in your .conf file
[01:13] <akagi82> wedwo ty
[01:13] <foolhardy> melkor, i'll try to find wicd-curses
[01:14] <protie> foolhardy - what system did you install this on?
[01:14] <foolhardy> protie, system - hardware dell gx280
[01:15] <digitalfiz> hey guys ive install apache2 and the php5 and i did a2enmod php5 but when i try to check out a php page in my browser it tries to download the php file
[01:15] <melkor> foolhardy: http://www.pastie.org/1479315 that is my wpa conf file.
[01:15] <digitalfiz> this normally works flawlessly for me but its not now
[01:15] <protie> ok was wondering. I had the exact same prob but different system
[01:15] <greppy> digitalfiz: did you restart apache?
[01:15] <jrib> !lamp > digitalfiz
[01:15] <digitalfiz> yes
[01:15] <jrib> digitalfiz: follow the troubleshooting steps on that wiki page for that issue
[01:15] <foolhardy> melkor, i've got wicd-curses installed. how do you run it?
[01:16] <digitalfiz> ty jrib
[01:16] <melkor> foolhardy: type wicd and press tab
[01:17] <foolhardy> melkor, tab returns wicd and wicd-curses
[01:17] <protie> I ended up having to do a full reinstall, sucks yeah, but been good ever since
[01:17] <melkor> foolhardy: run wicd-curses then.
[01:17] <melkor> foolhardy: curses is a cmd line 'gui'
[01:18] <foolhardy> melkor, I see. seems useful
[01:18] <foolhardy> says "obtaining ip address ... /"
[01:18] <foolhardy> but I haven't entered key yet
[01:18] <digitalfiz> jrib, just realized its only downloading files when they are in ~userdirs i think i might be able to fix that
[01:18] <melkor> foolhardy: I don't know I haven't used it before.
[01:19] <protie> it will prob pop up that key is incorrect after a min or so
[01:19] <protie> even though thats not its prob (even with correct key it would still give that error)]
[01:21] <melkor> foolhardy: if that does not work, you can create a wpa_supplicant.conf file, and then run wpa_supplicant and it should work.
[01:21] <foolhardy> where does the wpa_supplicant.conf file go?
[01:21] <foolhardy> -location
[01:22] <DiamondSword> Good night.
[01:22] <melkor> foolhardy: where ever you like.
[01:23] <melkor> foolhardy: did you see the paste I made?  You should be able to make a file with that information.
[01:24] <foolhardy> I did. I'm trying to get wpa-curses to work. If not I'll try the manual route
[01:24] <fft_> anyone here good with labview?
[01:25] <melkor> http://www.pastie.org/1479340 < that is how I run my wpa_supplicant you might have to change the interface name.
[01:26] <guampa> i don't undestand, why dpkg -l reports i have libreadline 6.1 while ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash has readline up to 5.1 ?
[01:26] <liam> I want to configure a pop mail server so that I can receive email as the postmaster through thunderbird... This will mean I receive all email that goes through it. I have set up an smtp server (postfix) and I can send mail as postmaster. I have installed dovecot but I don't know how to configure it to use a root/postmaster account. Does anyone know how to do this?
[01:27] <guampa> *understand
[01:27] <pwnmonkey> hurray irssi worked =)
[01:28] <greppy> liam: postmaster is usually an alias, take a look at /etc/aliases
[01:28] <liam> greppy: that dir doesnt exist...
[01:28] <greppy> liam: it's a file
[01:28] <melkor> Is there a way I can get the updated to quit installing new .32 kernels?
[01:29] <liam> greppy: ok I see its an alias for root
[01:29] <greppy> liam: you can then alias root to whatever user account you want, voila, you get all the mail.
[01:30] <GreekPimpSlap> ps3dev
[01:31] <trism> guampa: perhaps you should look at ftp.gnu.org/gnu/readline which has 6.1
[01:31] <wolter> how do I make my terminal make a sound with the bell?
[01:31] <guampa> trism: thanks, would this mean that bash is linked only to readline 6?
[01:33] <sagaci> wolter: \a
[01:33] <wolter> ?
[01:34] <sagaci> wolter: type \a into a terminal
[01:34] <wolter> \a yields a: command not found
[01:34] <wolter>  /a yields bash: /a: No such file or directory
[01:35] <wolter> I do have a visual bell, compiz's, but no sound
[01:35] <trism> guampa: I don't know
[01:35] <guampa> ok, thanks
[01:36] <foolhardy> melkor, is the encrypted psk required or can I have it unencrypted?
[01:39] <JackyAlcine> !coc
[01:40] <melkor> foolhardy: I use it "encrypted" but maybe there is an argument.
[01:40] <tlab> I'm trying to get my SD card slot working, it shows up in lspci, and I can't modprobe pxamci... what am I missing?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> tlab: what make/model is the system (if any)
[01:42] <doodoo> i made a screencast using ffmpeg. but audio and video are out of sync. how can i sync them?
[01:42] <tlab> toshiba laptop, JMicron SD/MMC
[01:42] <wolter> how can I make my terminal make an audible bell related to my sound theme?
[01:42] <melkor> doodoo: there is #ffmpeg if you cant find it here.
[01:43] <philip_> need help
[01:43] <Virtualized> fhi
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> tlab: what model toshiba, they make about 100 different models...
[01:43] <greppy> !ask | philip_
[01:43] <trakinas> gtg. cheers
[01:44] <Virtualized> do you know a linux ditribution for remote booting
[01:44] <tlab> a665-s6070
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Virtualized: lsb_release -a
[01:45] <Guest85552> Anyone here familiar with mysql++/
[01:45] <Virtualized> im not talking about ubuntu specificaly , but as ubuntu has a lot of users , i wanted to ask you , if you knew a distro
[01:45] <greppy> !ot | Virtualized
[01:45] <Virtualized> that is use for netboot , remote boot
[01:46] <Guest85552> How can I make #include <mysql++> work after I've installed the necessary files?
[01:46] <Virtualized> !ot
[01:46] <melkor> Guest85552: are you compiling with g++ ?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Virtualized: I suggest you look at what lsb stands for ;)
[01:47] <Guest85552> Yes
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> tlab: may help: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=257032    backup the file before editting
[01:47] <Guest85552> My compiling works great.  Using geany.
[01:47] <melkor> Guest85552: if your compiling works great then your using <mysql++>
[01:47] <Guest85552> I used this tutorial: http://codingrecipes.com/installing-mysql-how-to-install-mysql-on-linux-centos
[01:47] <Guest85552> I'm sorry
[01:48] <Guest85552> I meant I can't include mysql++
[01:48] <Guest85552> I can compile with g++
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> tlab: also found: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344297
[01:48] <melkor> Then it isn't in your include directory where did you install the headers.
[01:48] <Guest85552> I don't know how to direct geany to include <mysql++> correctly
[01:48] <greppy> !ot | Guest85552
[01:49] <Guest85552> The tutorial told me to add "/usr/local/lib" to the bottom of my /etc/lib.so.conf
[01:49] <Guest85552> then run the ldconfig command
[01:50] <Guest85552> I just ran the makefil command
[01:50] <Guest85552> and it said success
[01:51] <Guest85552> greppy this has directly to do with ubuntu.
[01:52] <Guest85552> What slash do I use to change my name?
[01:52] <Jayjay3> hi guys
[01:53] <fft_>  hey /nick
[01:53] <zzm634> Is there a way I can login with a user and a group (over ssh), so if I create a file or directory, it is owned by "zm:<group>" rather than "zm:zm"?
[01:53] <Guest85552> Any idea?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> !nick | Guest85552
[01:55] <Lavaeagle> Thank you
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> zzm634: you may need 2 comamnds, or a script
[01:55] <BennyBoyBoise> I need some help with ubuntu server... can anyone help me out?
[01:55] <xangua> Lavaeagle: and why not install mysqk from repository¿
[01:56] <BennyBoyBoise> I've installed it onto an old laptop
[01:56] <BennyBoyBoise> and want to be able to close the lid
[01:56] <BennyBoyBoise> short of installing gnome and X and such
[01:56] <Lavaeagle> xangua: I have mysql++ installed.
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> BennyBoyBoise: why didnt you install the desktop OS if you wanted a desktop OS?
[01:57] <BennyBoyBoise> good point
[01:57] <Lavaeagle> xangua: I had to makefile it.  However I don't understand how to make geany understand where the include file is.
[01:57] <BennyBoyBoise> this has just been really hard to find anywhere - and it is the last thing I need to do to this server
[01:58] <BennyBoyBoise> I very well might install gnome - was just hoping the masters would have the quick and easy command
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> BennyBoyBoise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3179/closing-lid-freezes-laptop
[01:58] <Lavaeagle> With $ wget http://tangentsoft.net/mysql++/releases/mysql++-3.0.9.tar.gz I have configured and make'd' it
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> BennyBoyBoise: possibly: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/10/how-to-disable-locking-on-lid-close-laptop-ubuntu-6061-610/
[01:59] <liam> if I change an alias in /etc/aliases do I need to restart the computer to get the other programs to pick it up? i.e. courier-pop
[02:00] <BennyBoyBoise> yeah - that's what I found earlier - it affects gnome power management though - which isn't installed.
[02:00] <BennyBoyBoise> bah - I will just install gnome
[02:00] <BennyBoyBoise> thank you action
[02:00] <Lavaeagle> I am able to make this work successfully: michael@ubuntu:~/tools/mysql++-3.0.9$ sudo make install
[02:00] <bcessa> hi there, is there a channel where I can ask specific questions about running an ubuntu server on the cloud, particularlly using aws?
[02:01] <BennyBoyBoise> @bcessa linode is cheap
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> liam: i believe: sudo service postfix reload   will do it
[02:03] <snake_> i have a cd with chameleon bootloader on it, could I mount that without hiding anything? if so, could I copy it onto a usb and have my usb bootable with it?
[02:04] <Jayjay3> hey guys, is it possible to have compiz and LXDE working together?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Jayjay3: yes
[02:04] <snake_> i have a cd with chameleon bootloader on it, could I mount that without hiding anything? if so, could I copy it onto a usb and have my usb bootable with it?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> you can mount the CD by inserting it
[02:04] <snake_> true
[02:04] <snake_> but
[02:04] <Lavaeagle> Hey I have installed mysql++ successfully but am unable to #include it in geany.  Is there some directory I need to edit to be able to include mysql++.h?
[02:04] <snake_> i asked how to do it without hiding anything on it
[02:05] <liam> ActionParsnip: do you have any idea how to create mailboxes for users? I created a new user and it has a mailbox in (~/Maildir) but none of the previous users have mailboxes..
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> liam: no idea, not something I've done. Why ask me?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> snake_: if you press ALT+H then nautilus will show all files
[02:05] <liam> ActionParsnip: because you answered my previous question talking about postfix...
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> liam: I used bing and found that, sorry to disappoint
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Jayjay3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U42A3WVpMUw
[02:08] <melkor> Lavaeagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1176845 that might be similar, you might need to add a pkg-config args.
[02:09] <amh345> does the latest edition of ubuntu server install with wireless adapters?
[02:09] <ryanf109> Hi all. I've got Ubuntu installed but I'm planning on installing windows 7. I've ran into problems with it removing GRUB before but is there a way to avoid this in the first place? If not what is the solution?
[02:10] <KM0201> !grub2 | ryanakca follow the insstructions after your windows install...
[02:10] <melkor> Lavaeagle: are you creating your make file manually?
[02:10] <xangua> ryanf109: install windows first next time
[02:10] <Lavaeagle> reading...
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> amh345: depends on the chip
[02:10] <ryanf109> xangua, It's to try and improve my understanding of the whole concept.
[02:11] <ryanf109> KM0201, thanks.
[02:11] <amh345> ActionParsnip: past versions of ubuntu seemed to have installed with it. but this latest one looks like it hasnt.  i'm resintalling again, just to ensure i did it right.. but incase it doesnt install again, is there a bundle for wireless drivers i can apt-get?
[02:12] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[02:12] <gnewb> ryanf109: Here> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html :That may help a bit...
[02:13] <^Mike\b> Should emesene 1.6.3 support webcams? I can't get it to send video to my friend, nor vice versa.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> amh345: maybe: linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic or if you are installing server      linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-server
[02:13] <rambam> Are we moving toward 1000 instead of 1024? What are the latest news on that?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> amh345: obviously change the release name if necessary
[02:13] <Lavaeagle> melkor: I am clicking compile in geany.  If thats what you mean by manually
[02:14] <Lavaeagle> I'm going to try in the terminal
[02:14] <ubuntu> Can someone walk me through installing ubuntu?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike\b: should do, does the cam work in cheese?
[02:14] <xangua> ^Mike\b: maybe if both use emesene, for videochat i better use skype
[02:14] <amh345> ActionParsnip: thank you
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTUoAoyjSM8
[02:14] <xangua> ubuntu burn it, set your bios to boot from cd, boot it, install it
[02:15] <^Mike\b> ActionParsnip: Yes -- and it can show my my own video in the "webcam" tab of the Preferences window
[02:15] <gnewb> FloridaGuy: Have you tried the Repair at Boot option?
[02:15] <^Mike\b> ActionParsnip: It just doesn't turn on when using it in a chat
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike\b: try amsn maybe
[02:16] <melkor> Lavaeagle: I haven't used geany for compiling c++.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: remember to MD5 test the ISO before using it
[02:16] <^Mike\b> ActionParsnip: but... it should work O_o :(
[02:16] <ubuntu> Im running through jumpdrive right now
[02:16] <Lavaeagle> melkor: Even when I run g++ out of the terminal I get an error
[02:16] <Lavaeagle> michael@ubuntu:~/Projects/diederdas$ g++ diederdas.cpp -o test
[02:16] <Lavaeagle> diederdas.cpp:1:34: error: /usr/include/mysql++.h: No such file or directory
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> ^Mike\b: yes it SHOULD but you need to see if it's emesene specific, then you have identified an issue#
[02:16] <Lavaeagle> I was using g++
[02:17] <Lavaeagle> For some reason g++ is unable to see where /usr/include/mysql++.h is.
[02:17] <FloridaGuy> gnewb: no....i dont get no options at boot....everytime i reboot..all i see is black screen until my desktop pops up
[02:17] <FloridaGuy> everything runing good...just dident get 20+ package removed
[02:18] <gnewb> FloridaGuy: There is a keystroke that pulls that up, I forgot it, what version are you on now?
[02:18] <ubuntu> I need to partition my hard drive to have room for a swap partition.
[02:18] <wyclif> hey all
[02:19] <Adnana> http://bux4ad.com/_2ba3a196.htm
[02:19] <ubuntu> Along with everything else but I already have 4 primary partitions, and its not letting me add anymore.
[02:19] <Lavaeagle> ubuntu: What is your question?
[02:19] <apporc> Hi my friends ,what is a user cpu time.
[02:19] <ubuntu> Honestly I dont know what Im doing.
[02:20] <Lavaeagle> apporc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_%28Unix%29
[02:20] <ubuntu> I need to shrink my 4th Partiton (Data) and turn it into three partitions(root, swap, and home)
[02:20] <gnewb> FloridaGuy: This one is for 8.04,,still looking> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/rescue.html
[02:20] <apporc> Lavaeagle:thank you.
[02:20] <Lavaeagle> ubuntu: use the gparted on the live disc or use "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[02:21] <ubuntu> Well when I shrink the Data partition it says I cant make any new partitions because I already have 4 primary partitions.
[02:21] <jrmcm> I need help with an external hd. I have gotten it formated into ext3, but when i mount it, its owned by root and I dont have write permission on it. How can i fix this?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: you'll need to delete one and make an extended partition, then make new logical partitions in the extended partition. You will lose the data on the partition but you can then have more partitions
[02:22] <JackyAlcine> jrmcm: sudo nautilus <path-to-root-drive-folder>
[02:22] <JackyAlcine> And then jrmcm: right click and edit permissions.
[02:22] <Lavaeagle> I keep getting this error: g++ -Wall -c "diederdas.cpp" (in directory: /home/michael/Projects/diederdas)
[02:22] <Lavaeagle> diederdas.cpp:1:34: error: /usr/include/mysql++.h: No such file or directory
[02:22] <Lavaeagle> Compilation failed.
[02:22] <jrmcm> ok thx. :)
[02:23] <peterkirn> In adding my primary login id to another group, I believe I somehow removed my account from the sudoers / root. I now can't authenticate via su or sudo. Is there a way to restore root privs?
[02:23] <Lavaeagle> I am trying to inlcude mysql++ and I am unable to include it.
[02:23] <ubuntu> But all of those partitions I need.  One is Windows 7, one is System, and the other is bios.
[02:23] <ubuntu> (Honestly don't know what system is)
[02:24] <Lavaeagle> ubuntu: bios is stored on your motherboards memory called cmos(?).
[02:24] <Ny51bern> any1 know where there is a Dell channel?
[02:24] <Lavaeagle> ubuntu: unless you meant swap
[02:25] <ubuntu> Well the partition is labeled BIOS_RVY
[02:27] <ubuntu> So what should I do?
[02:27] <liam> does anyone know of any easy docs to create a local smtp and pop mail server and use the postmaster account all locally?
[02:27] <Wiesshund> ubuntu that is a recovery partition
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Ny51bern: if you are using Ubuntu you should ask here. Otherwise I'd ask in ##hardware if you are having hardware issues
[02:30] <nobodybk> Hey there
[02:30] <Wiesshund> liam nothing special to using it localy, if you can already set it up in general
[02:30] <KipMacy> if you change your nick, i'll help you out
[02:30] <Ny51bern> ActionParsnip: nope not ubuntu - but i couldnt find it when i searched
[02:31] <nobodybk> why cant tranfer file from Yahoo Messenger Windows -> Pidgin ubuntu ?
[02:31] <nigelb> g23
[02:31] <Toxicsgz> Hi, my Ubuntu 10.10 iso CD will not reconize my HD during install, I get no option to use entire disk, it goes straight to the partition menu where my HD is not listed. The live CD will read my HD and its contents but the installer does not. Any help please.
[02:31] <liam> Wiesshund: I have set it up and I can use normal user accounts however I can't access the postmaster account over pop.....
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Toxicsgz: run: lspci   websearch for the drive controller you have
[02:32] <charlesno> how do i install emacs 23 on ubuntu 9.10
[02:32] <ubuntu> Is it possible to install Ubuntu using one partition?
[02:32] <xangua> ubuntu yes
[02:32] <peterkirn> Eep, okay, indeed, my root password is suddenly not recognized anywhere. I made a minor change, I thought, to user groups ... for audio purposes. i.e., sudo usermod -G audio [userid]
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Toxicsgz: try running gparted and partitioning the drive, then run the installer
[02:32] <xangua> that's how most people do
[02:33] <Wiesshund> liam you get an error or?
[02:33] <Toxicsgz> gparted ActionParsnip?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> peterkirn: there is no root pass, your password your user logs in with is not the root pass
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Toxicsgz: its the partitioning tool
[02:34] <Toxicsgz> THe disk utility you mean?
[02:34] <peterkirn> ActionParsnip: Right, I understand. So somehow I've removed my default login from the root group, which means I can't authenticate at all. Is there any way to recover?
[02:34] <enav> hi ppl... im having so weird eror.... i got a web server with   text files and pictures, when i access the folder it shows a list with all those text files but not the images   how this is even possible
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> peterkirn: reboot and hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root, you can now re-add your user to the admin group and/or reset your password with:  passwd foo    (replace foo with your username)
[02:35] <rww> peterkirn: had you read man usermod, you've have seen "If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group.". Like the 'admin' group :\
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> enav: do you have an index.html with HTML code to display the images?
[02:36] <peterkirn> rww: thanks, yep -- and, of course, I will now forever remember how to correctly use usermod. ;)
[02:36] <enav> i just  acces the folder with the addres bard  no  index files at all
[02:36] <enav> alll files have 777
[02:37] <peterkirn> ActionParsnip: thanks, got it. sorry, was used to systems on which there is a separate root account independent from group status of the default login. will do.
[02:37] <liam> Wiesshund: it just wont authenticate if the username is postmaster
[02:38] <Toxicsgz> OK had to download it ActionParsnip. Can you tell me how to create a pnew partition
[02:38] <snake_> how do you boot from usb in virtualbox
[02:38] <Wiesshund> liam what error does it gove?
[02:38] <Wiesshund> give*
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Toxicsgz: gparted is a preety gui app which will help lots
[02:39] <liam> Wiesshund: Sending of password did not succeed. Mail server localhost responded: Login failed.
[02:39] <naptastic> Hi, I'm trying to do Diskless Booting (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto ) and have followed the instructions, but instead of booting, the computer stops in Busybox. How do I make it boot?
[02:40] <mellin> Hey everyone. I am trying to figure out how to install a experimental fglrx driver for my video card. I got a notification icon in the upper right corner of the taskbar, but I was in the process of installing updates so there was a lock on the files and directory. How do I bring up the icon to click to install the driver for my video card?
[02:40] <ubuntu> Im in the middle of the installer, and it Im stuck on the "Who are you?" page.  I have filled out my information but it wont let me continue.
[02:40] <snake_> how do you boot from usb in virtualbox
[02:40] <rww> ubuntu: make your username all lowercase
[02:41] <snake_> is it possible?
[02:42] <Wiesshund> liam check the mail server log, should be a more detailed account of what occured in it
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> snake_: sure, you will need the closed source virtualbox to get USB access
[02:42] <skilz> for some reason 'beep' doesnt output any sound
[02:43] <skilz> I do beep -f 300
[02:43] <skilz> nothing...
[02:44] <snake_> ActionParsnip, the binary on their site, correct?
[02:45] <bencahill_> Hey guys, my new 10.10 install on a laptop with an ssd is hanging after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.". Any ideas?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> snake_: sure, or you can use the repo to get updates when the vbox guys update
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> bencahill_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[02:47] <bencahill_> ActionParsnip: yes (the cd was burned a few weeks ago), and ran the 'test cd' option (when you boot the cd) before installing
[02:47] <bencahill_> ActionParsnip: no errors during install
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> bencahill_: cool
[02:47] <purpzey> Does anyone have experience with energymech? I am having some issues communicating with it and I really can't figure out why...
[02:48] <skilz> whats 'device' would the pc speaker be?
[02:49] <meway> the one that makes noise :p
[02:49] <opasan> Would someone be so kind to give me an demonoid invite? I've been waiting for months i've never caught it when its open. Maybe the ubuntu community will pull through
[02:49] <mellin> skiz: Do you have audio when you boot up, or what about playing music, etc.
[02:49] <rww> opasan: this isn't an appropriate place for that.
[02:49] <mellin> Oops sorry *skilz*
[02:49] <bencahill> !ot | opasan
[02:49] <rambam> How do I switch from 1024 to 1000 to be used in Ubuntu?
[02:49]  * skilz nods
[02:49] <opasan> thank you
[02:49] <rww> bencahill: It's not appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic, either.
[02:50] <psusi> rambam, what?
[02:50] <bencahill> rww: oh, sorry :)
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> rambam: for what? Your question has no scope
[02:50] <rambam> psusi: mebibyte, megabyte.
[02:50] <bencahill> rambam: why?
[02:50] <Anom_> !ati
[02:50] <mellin> Anom_: Thank you!
[02:50] <rambam> bencahill: To move forward.
[02:51] <psusi> rambam, insufficient words for meaningful question
[02:51] <bencahill> rambam: move forward to what? copying apple?
[02:51] <sacarlson> naptastic: are you running ubuntu 10.04?  it states in gotcha's This does not work for a PXE server running 10.04.1 LTS,  I also DON'T see it say that does work in 10.10. so it might have the same problem
[02:51] <meway> opasan, #freenode welcomes offtopic discussion if its anything to do with support
[02:51] <bencahill> psusi: I believe he's talking about reporting disk/filesize values in base 10, not base 2, is that correct, rambam?
[02:51] <rambam> bencahill: No, I didn't even know they did that, I don't care about them.
[02:51] <naptastic> sacarlson, yeah, I'm running 10.10, so I guess I've gotta figure out what changed and fix it
[02:51] <rambam> bencahill: Correct.
[02:51] <Daemonik> What happened to vde support in kvm on Ubuntu 10.10??
[02:51] <Nanoha> awesome! I think I just got my first IRC server operational :)
[02:52] <neil_d> i am trying to share a printer via the 'appsocket' protocol... I have the printer tagged as 'shared'... but according to 'netstat' there is no process listening to port 9100... what is wrong?
[02:52] <Anom_> hi,   if I have an ATI card, and need the binary drivers for it, but Hardware drivers is not showing it, does that mean its not supported ???
[02:52] <sacarlson> naptastic: I havn't had it working since 8.04
[02:52] <bencahill> rambam: so why do you want them reported in base 10, when a computer uses base 2?
[02:52] <psusi> rambam, having WHAT do that?
[02:52] <bencahill> psusi: lol :)
[02:52] <rambam> bencahill: Is Hz base 2?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Anom_: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[02:53] <rambam> psusi: Everything displayed.
[02:53] <bencahill> rambam: what exactly is your point?
[02:53] <psusi> rambam, too vague
[02:53] <rambam> bencahill: Humans count in 10.
[02:53] <Wiesshund> Anom whaich ATI card?
[02:53] <sacarlson> naptastic: I'd like to have that working so I'll work on it with you,  if you find a fix before me pm me with the solution
[02:53] <bencahill> rambam: computers != humans
[02:53] <MacManDan> I wanted to install vmware workstation in Ubuntu and it says I need to uninstall player first.  How do I uninstall Player?
[02:53] <cogsworth> I'm trying to burn a .iso to a DVD+RW and have it bootable, but when I select the drive at boot, it boots to grub instead.  I've verified that it's burning the files in the .iso and not the .iso itself, and followed the .iso burning guide to the letter.  What do I do?
[02:53] <rww> rambam: Per Ubuntu's units policy, applications should already use 1000/SI based units for many contexts. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> rambam: can you give a full and complete question rather than wasting users time habving them milk tiny pieces of information from you
[02:54] <psusi> rambam, a number of the command line tools like du and ls take a --si switch that will do that
[02:54] <rambam> bencahill: So why are we displaying letters here? Computers don't read letters, they read 0 or 1.
[02:54] <neil_d> bencahill: rambam: computers should accomidate humans!
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> cogsworth: how did you put the ISO on the disk?
[02:54] <Anom_> ActionParsnip,  ati rs482 [radeon express 200m]
[02:54] <psusi> thuogh if you ask me, the push to abandon 30 years of precedent and switch to base 10 is stupid
[02:54] <cogsworth> Right clicked the iso from the desktop and selected write to disk.  It burned at 4x so I'm relatively sure it burned accurately.
[02:55] <MacManDan> How can I remove vm player so I can install workstation?
[02:55] <Anom_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 10.10
[02:55] <rww> Anom_: That card isn't supported by versions of ATI fglrx that work with the versions of Xorg used in current versions of Ubuntu.
[02:55] <neil_d> i am trying to share a printer via the 'appsocket' protocol... I have the printer tagged as 'shared'... but according to 'netstat' there is no process listening to port 9100... what is wrong?
[02:55] <Zelozelos> on my desktop on the login screen half of the screen appears to be a magnified screen and i cant fig out how to get rid of it...any ideas how?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> Anom_: may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1654240
[02:56] <rambam> psusi: google this, ubuntu slashdot base 10, and you'll soon probably switch distro?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> cogsworth: ok did you test the CD for defects once booted to?
[02:56] <cogsworth> ActionParsnip: Once booted to Ubuntu?
[02:56] <bencahill> Does anyone else have any ideas regarding my install hanging after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done." ?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> cogsworth: no, waay before
[02:56] <mellin> MacManDan: You should install virtual box which is like vmware for mac. This will let you install other operating systems and run them in a virtualized environment
[02:56] <Silkjc> What packages do I need to install to get the samba sharing GUI that comes up when you right click a folder and go 'share'? I've got samba4 installed, no menu though
[02:57] <rambam> Anyway, to rephrase my question: How do I display sizes and such in Ubuntu as base 10 and not base 2?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> cogsworth: boot to the cd and press space a lot, you'll get the OLD boot menu and you can test the CD and RAM
[02:57] <MacManDan> Okay I will try that.
[02:57] <cogsworth> ActionParsnip: When I try to boot to the CD from Bios, it gives me "Booting from CD..." then "Booting GRUB"
[02:57] <bencahill> rambam: I believe rww and psusi answered your question quite well.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> rambam: if you'd have said that in the first place it would have been much better
[02:57] <rww> rambam: Most GUI applications should already do that. Some command-line applications have an argument to do so. You'd need to specify which application you're talking about.
[02:57] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: ;)
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> cogsworth: try selecting in the BIOS to only boot CD
[02:58] <rambam> rww: The whole system.
[02:58] <cogsworth> ActionParsnip: Ok, will do.   Will report back with results.
[02:58] <rww> rambam: "The whole system." is not an application. It's not a system-wide setting.
[02:58] <Zelozelos> on my login screen the desktop magnifier is taking up half the screen and i can't click on anything behind it so how am i supposed to turn it off?
[02:58] <bencahill> rww: so does Nautilus report filesizes in base-10?
[02:59] <rww> bencahill: I don't use it, so I can't check, but I believe it's been modified to do so.
[02:59] <skilz> Zelozelos, ctrl + alt + print screen + s
[02:59] <rambam> rww: But that's what I want.
[02:59] <Zelozelos> ty skilz ill give it a try
[02:59] <psusi> rambam, no.. but I will continue to point out the stupidity of overturning 30 years of precedent and changing the behavior of numerous programs instead of getting the idiots who use wrong numbers ( HD manufacturers ) to stop doing so.
[03:00] <bencahill> psusi: actually, if you want to be technical, the hdd manufacturers are correct, gigabyte means '1 billion bytes'
[03:00] <needlez> hey people i got a quick question and want to know if it can be done easily. Is it possible to change permissions for pm-suspend so that it doesn't require sudo to run it?? like chown something or chmod something so that sudo isn't needed for pm-suspend??
[03:00] <rww> rambam: Please feel free to see the UnitPolicy page I linked you to, file bugs against applications that violate it, and fix existing bugs tagged as such, then.
[03:00] <Zelozelos> skilz nope its not doing anything
[03:01] <bencahill> psusi: but now we have also gotten to where gigabyte means 2^whatever
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> rww: nice
[03:01] <needlez> anyone??
[03:01] <purpzey> Does anyone have experience with energymech? I am having some issues communicating with it and I really can't figure out why...
[03:01] <psusi> bencahill, no, it doesn't...
[03:01] <bencahill> psusi: technically, gibibyte should have been the term picked to be used to indicate base2 numbers
[03:01] <lake> yooooo. is it possible to record audio from an app source, like rhythmbox or a web browser in linux? (i'm certain it's possible)... How can I do it?
[03:02] <psusi> bencahill, we havn't gotten there, we have been there for 30 years
[03:02] <Zelozelos> on my login screen the magnifier is taking up half of the screen with the magnifier viewer, usually it just shows all black except for a border...how can i get rid of it
[03:02] <sandyd> lake: jack-audio
[03:02] <rww> I note that the intricacies of unit prefixes are offtopic for #ubuntu, though #ubuntu-offtopic would probably love to have an extended debate about them ;)
[03:02] <naptastic> lake, sadly, it's quite difficult to do that. The easiest way is to get a patch cable and connect your line out to your line in, and record your line in.
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> needlez: you can add pm-suspend to visudo so it will need sudo, but you won't get asked for a password
[03:02] <mellin> lake: Yes you should be able to use audacity to record streamed music and such
[03:02] <bencahill> psusi: from wikipedia, summarizes what I'm saying: "Historically, the term has also been used in some fields of computer science and information technology to denote the gibibyte, or<PHONE_NUMBER> (10243 or 230) bytes."
[03:02] <rambam> psusi: Did you google what I told you?
[03:02] <Aleiex> hi, my window manager closed or something because i can see controls: minimze, close, etc
[03:02] <Aleiex> how to restart it?
[03:02] <bencahill> rww: understood :)
[03:02] <skilz> Zelozelos, Sorry mate, Hold down Alt-PrintScreen (this is the SysRq key combo), and while holding down those keys, press the letters 'S' to sync the disks, then 'U' to unmount the filesystems and 'B' to reboot the computer. Always try that before going for the power button. It's a bit awkward to do all that while holding Alt-PrintScreen, but it's not something you'll do often.
[03:03] <Aleiex> i tried to restart pc but the same
[03:03] <psusi> that 640k of base ram dos supported?  it wasn't 640,000... 720k floppy disks?  wasn't 720,000... a 1mb stick of ram was not a million
[03:03] <lake> sandyd: naptastic mellin thanks all for the super quick input. I'll look into jack-audio asap
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> Aleiex: press ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[03:03] <naptastic> sacarlson, thanks. Sorry, I'm distracted and working on 2 problems at once. I'm pretty sure the problem is in the initramfs but I don't know how to solve it.
[03:03] <mellin> lake: NP
[03:03] <psusi> rambam, no
[03:04] <bencahill> anybody have an idea about hanging at boot, could have something to do with firewire?
[03:04] <Aleiex> thnx ActionParsnip
[03:04] <needlez> ActionParsnip: I need to change its permission cuz I'm thinking about adding it to the end of a bash script to tell the computer to automatically sleep after totem closes. I made a c wrapper to do shutdown, but that just shuts down the computer and I'd rather it sleep. So is it possible to get rid of that sudo requirement for this??
[03:04] <sandyd> lake: youll also want to use it with qjackctl
[03:04] <Aleiex> why this happen?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: when you see plymouth, press ESC and it will get out of the way and let you see whats actually happening
[03:04] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: plymouth?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: plymouth is the pointless boot splash Ubuntu uses
[03:05] <needlez> bencahill: plymouth is the purple screen
[03:05] <sandyd> bencahill: ya. that purple/blue startup screen
[03:05] <rambam> psusi: So you might want to perhaps change distro, if they go through with it. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/1451238/Ubuntu-Will-Switch-To-Base-10-File-Size-Units-In-Future-Release
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> needlez: like I said, you will need to add the word 'sudo' to the command but you will NOT need to enter a password
[03:05] <aju> hai all,When i am trying to update ubuntu 10.04 I got an error message"E: crossplatformui: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" any one can help me
[03:05] <mellin> rambam: lol
[03:05] <bencahill> ActionParsnip, needlez, sandyd: I never get there, it only sits at a blinking cursor if I boot normally, i'm booting into the 'recovery mode' grub entry
[03:05] <psusi> rambam, like I said before, that would be silly.
[03:05] <lake> sandyd: I've got that package installed, now. thanks.
[03:05] <sandyd> bencahill: you can also press shift/esc on boot to show the grub menu, press 'e' and remove "splash"
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[03:06] <sandyd> lake: its not as easy as you think - read the wiki
[03:06] <sacarlson> naptastic: I've worked on this initramfs problem in the past before 8.04 when I had to add drivers,  It was involved with lots of trial and error and seemed at the time I had two problems that made it more dificult
[03:06] <bencahill> sandyd: yes, I know :)
[03:06] <needlez> ActionParsnip: ok thank you
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> !visudo | needlez
[03:06] <psusi> at any rate, it seems 10.10 did not make the switch like that says
[03:06] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: will check, brb
[03:06] <rambam> psusi: Not yet, but we'll see.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> needlez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> needlez: if you screw the file you will need to boot to root recovery mode and fix, so be careful
[03:07] <psusi> both df and gnome are still using base 2, like everyone else but HD makers have done for 30 years
[03:07] <rambam> psusi: Do your research a little bit better.
[03:07] <lake> sandyd: okay, thanks for the reality check.
[03:08] <rww> !ot | psusi, rambam
[03:08] <Zelozelos> skilz that does effectivly reboot the machine (awsome to know that key combo-something i was wondering) but the magnifier is still there
[03:08] <PresuntoRJ> is there a file size limit when importing an Outlook 2007 PST file into Evolution ? It seems to work fine with a 650M I have, but the NEXT button wont enable when I try it with another 9G one... Must I brake it into little pieces beforehand?
[03:08] <needlez> ActionParsnip: umm, ill pass then, i have a solution that will work for now, I made a Cwrapper that has the shutdown command basically and doesn't require it to be ran as root cuz it thinks im already root running it
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> psusi: base 2 is more accurate to what is actually on the partition, so you know that there is no rounding etc. Windows shows both which I have had many calls about wanting me to explain
[03:08] <needlez> but thank you i will look into this
[03:09] <aju> please help meee
[03:09] <lake> sandyd: is this wiki to which you refer? HowToJACKConfiguration
[03:10] <Zelozelos> my kids did something to my login screen, the magnifying thing is taking up half of the screen and i cant fig out how to get rid of it..any ideas
[03:10] <cogsworth> ActionParsnip: Changing the boot priorities to only CD didn't help, but I DID find something puzzling.
[03:10] <sandyd> lake: yup
[03:10] <lake> great
[03:10] <sandyd> lake: but Ill assure you that it will perform MUCH better than pulseaudio ;)
[03:10] <rww> Zelozelos: I've never played with it, but there should be an accessibility icon somewhere along the bottom you can click to change magnifier settings. Looks like a person in a circle.
[03:10] <sandyd> aju: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641387
[03:11] <cogsworth> ActionParsnip: The files I'm trying to burn are originally contained in a .bin totaling 707mb in size.  However, when I open the .bin with an archive program, the files only total around 600mb.
[03:11] <Zelozelos> rww sometimes i can see it but i cant click on anything but the login names/cancel button
[03:11] <cogsworth> How can the uncompressed files possibly be smaller than the compressed container?
[03:11] <mellin> Anyone have some reading for me on how to monitor and watch to see if anyone is trying to breach my system? What I'm thinking is it is possible for example to grep the ports somehow to see if someone tries to exploit said port. I know /var/log can be reviewed, but I'm wanting to learn better how to use the command line and programs that are available to me there
[03:11] <naptastic> sacarlson, I have the right drivers, at least, I'm pretty sure.
[03:11] <teage> having problems with my touchpad on my toshiba laptop. pointer over travels when i move it. meaning i stop and it doesnt (right away )
[03:11] <Wiesshund> Zelozelos can you log in?
[03:11] <Zelozelos> Wiesshund yup can login just fine
[03:11] <naptastic> sacarlson, I'm in Busybox right now and can see my ethernet adapter, though it isn't "up"
[03:11] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: nope, none of those worked, it doesn't seem to be something with the graphics
[03:12] <Wiesshund> Zelozelos i think you need to disable Gnompernicus
[03:12] <rvn> trying to use smbclient to connect to my windows box - would use GUI but it doesn't support the dollar sign in a share name, and im trying to connect to the hidden drive share T$. i did "smbclient \\\\retrocomputer\\t$ -U=<My Username> <My Password>" and it tosses back NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[03:12] <teage> im running ubuntu 10.10
[03:12] <rvn> box runs win7 pro
[03:12] <rvn> ideas?
[03:12] <Zelozelos> Wiesshund, disable what? is it a simple process?
[03:12] <sandyd> rvn: if your using homegroups or whatever you call it, samba doesnt work with it
[03:12] <lake> sandyd: am i replacing pulseaudio by following this wiki?
[03:12] <Wiesshund> Zelozelos yea after you log in.
[03:13] <CJ232> If my partitions are setup like [C:][D:][unalloted], can I move unalloted between C and D any way?
[03:13] <naptastic> rvn, have you tried putting a / in front of the $? I think you might need to. I'm not sure though.
[03:13] <sandyd> lake: no. but its not a good idea to run both at the same time
[03:13] <Wiesshund> Zelozelos Applications>Assistive Technologies>Screen Reader and Magnifier.
[03:13] <rvn> naptastic: same error.
[03:13] <sandyd> lake: because their both sound servers
[03:13] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: what does it usually do after /scripts/init-bottom ?
[03:13] <lake> sandyd: that makes sense
[03:13] <rvn> brb, trying something
[03:13] <naptastic> rvn, okay, I'm out of ideas.
[03:13] <levi_> hey guys. For some reason, ubuntu isnt mounting my usb flash drive. I have media set to automount and this has worked before. any ideas?
[03:13] <Zelozelos> Wiesshund, ahh i see ill check there if not i dont care anyhow..its still running 9.4
[03:14] <needlez> bencahill: should bring up limits or loading img or something like that, have verbose bootscreen
[03:14] <lake> it appears my mental model is lacking in this area, sandyd. thanks for the guidance
[03:14] <sandyd> lake: however, if you get jack working, you can just use jack by default
[03:14] <Zelozelos> thanks for the info
[03:14] <sandyd> lake: it works the same as pulseaudio
[03:14] <bencahill> needlez: the last line on the screen is "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottm ... done."
[03:15] <needlez> hold on give me a little bit ill look into it
[03:15] <bencahill> needlez: sure, thx
[03:15] <CJ232> Anone know if I can move a non adjacent partition to next to it if there is another partiion in the way like | C: | D: | unalloted |?
[03:15] <Wiesshund> I dont think you can hop partitions easily
[03:15] <sacarlson> naptastic: did you try this https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/kvm-pxe-backport ?
[03:16] <CJ232> How hard is it to "hop" paritions
[03:16] <ayecee> CJ232: mostly time consuming, depending on the size. gparted takes a lot of the guesswork out of it.
[03:16] <Wiesshund> ayecee gparted wont hop partitions though
[03:17] <ayecee> Wiesshund: really? it did for me?
[03:17] <Anom_> rww, ActionParsnip
[03:17] <Wiesshund> ayecee it let you drag one over the top of others?
[03:17] <Anom_> how do I get the open source drivers working again ?
[03:17] <naptastic> sacarlson, reading..
[03:17] <Anom_> I installed (tried) the binary ones, but they didn't go.
[03:17] <Anom_> resolution is low, ect.
[03:17] <ayecee> Wiesshund: ah, that's just moving a partition, no?
[03:17] <sandyd> Anom_, which ones. nvidia or ati
[03:17] <CJ232> yeah it jusrt moves it
[03:17] <CJ232> not hops
[03:18] <Anom_> sandyd, ati
[03:18] <CJ232> I dont think
[03:18] <Anom_> ATI 200M
[03:18] <Wiesshund> ayecee no its moving say partition 1 over the top of 2 and 3 and dropping it like between 3 and 4
[03:18] <ayecee> CJ232: I don't understand the difference from your scription.
[03:18] <rww> Anom_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[03:18] <naptastic> sacarlson, what does that do? I'm not sure if it will help me.
[03:18] <rww> Anom_: I can't offer any help past that; my policy with fglrx for a long time has been "stay the hell away"
[03:18] <ayecee> Wiesshund: like, sliding 2 and 3 to the left, and dropping 1 between 3 and 4?
[03:18] <CJ232> aycee what do you mean
[03:18] <sandyd> Anom_: you mind if I give you the instructions on pastebin?
[03:19] <CJ232> and I can move the partition over with gparted ?
[03:19] <sandyd> Anom_: here http://pastebin.com/mnHMVJ7h
[03:19] <ayecee> CJ232: sure, but it normally has to be moved into free space.
[03:19] <Wiesshund> ayecee yea
[03:19] <sacarlson> naptastic: I think it fixes at least one bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/etherboot/+bug/617316 and hopfully our problems also
[03:19] <ayecee> CJ232: what you might do is shrink the partitions so you have room to work with, then move them, then grow them. Really slow, but it does what you're asking.
[03:20]  * rww notes that the commands on that pastebin are also on the wiki.ubuntu.com page
[03:20] <Wiesshund> CJ232 you can mirrior the partition you want moved out of sequence, then after you verify its ok, you can remove the original
[03:20] <sandyd> Anom_: if your using 64bit, the /usr/lib32/libGL* links may also be fried
[03:20] <sandyd> Anom_: you need to restore those manually
[03:20] <sacarlson> naptastic: I norally try the easy solution first if that fails have to look closer
[03:20] <Propel> is ext4 the latest?
[03:20] <ayecee> Propel: the latest what?
[03:20] <Propel> format for HDD
[03:20] <Propel> for ubuntu
[03:20] <CJ232> so C: D: unalloted unolatted slides to C: D: Slides after unalloted doesnt work huh
[03:21] <Propel> or best working for ubuntu
[03:21] <ayecee> Propel: it's the default for current ubuntu, yes
[03:21] <rww> Propel: it's the lastest stable one, and the current default.
[03:21] <CJ232> never mirrored it before
[03:21] <Propel> ahh ok. thx guys
[03:21] <ayecee> CJ232: sorry, I can't follow that.
[03:21] <Wiesshund> CJ232 i guess maybe we should ask why you think they need moved first?
[03:21] <sacarlson> naptastic: oh and I forgot you run 10.10,  I'm running 10.04
[03:22] <webPragmatist> pardon my ignorance but didn't ubuntu have an app to generate an ssh key and add it to the authorized_keys?
[03:22] <mellin> ayecee: It really depends on what you want to try and accomplish with the filesystem. There are others that are for example better for really big file sizes. As stated ext4 should be more than adequate for most situations ;-
[03:22] <naptastic> sacarlson, yeah, the 10.10 vs 10.04 probably isn't a big deal
[03:22] <webPragmatist> ah ssh-copy-id
[03:23] <naptastic> sacarlson, the PXE bug isn't affecting me; the problem appears to be in the mounting of the root over NFS, or what happens after that.
[03:23] <sacarlson> naptastic: can you mount the nfs from a system that's already booted?
[03:23] <ayecee> meway: did you mean to address Propel?
[03:23] <ayecee> oops.
[03:23] <Wiesshund> CJ232 tell us what your trying to accomplish, maybe we can give you better answers
[03:24] <ayecee> stupid autocomplete.
[03:24] <Propel> i assume you meant to refer to someone else, ayecee?
[03:24] <sacarlson> naptastic: maybe it's missing nfs drivers?
[03:24] <ayecee> Propel: apparently.
[03:24] <Propel> ;P
[03:24] <bencahill> ironic
[03:25] <CJ232> ok
[03:25] <samfire> where can i get packages from for ubuntu so i can local install them? i need network-manager so ican connect from the ubuntu box.
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: what is?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> samfire: package.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <rww> !offline | samfire
[03:26] <CJ232> I have a drive with a C: primary partition and a extended partitions with D:  and also 976 mgbytes of unalloted space
[03:26] <samfire> thanks :) its packages. but i found it.
[03:26] <CJ232> ayecee:  the extended is split so the extended has two logical drives D: and unalloted space
[03:27] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: mellin (gone now) referenced ayecee where he should have referenced Propel, so ayecee tried to ask him if he meant that, but he made the same error due to autocomplete ;)
[03:27] <CJ232> i want to take the logical drive in the extendend partition and move it next ( in front of ) to C:
[03:27] <Propel> lol
[03:27] <Wiesshund> CJ232 unalloted space is just that unused, its not part of D:
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: thats not ironic
[03:28] <CJ232> I know It is part of the extended partiton which contains the logical drives D: and then the unalloted space also
[03:29] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: uk english?
[03:29] <CJ232> ..
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: Uk, Leeds, West Yorkshire
[03:29] <Wiesshund> unalotted belongs to no partition, you could make a new partition in it or you could grow D: into it etc
[03:29] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: US here, probably a difference in terms :)
[03:30] <CJ232> D is just part of the extended partition though, and the unalloted is in the extended partition
[03:30] <naptastic> sacarlson, when I compiled the kernel, I made sure NFS and root over NFS were configured into the kernel, not as modules; though maybe I goofed in there somewhere?
[03:30] <CJ232> which is not D
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: it'd have been ironic if the nick was 'accuracy' or something like that, Yeah the US 'ironic' is the UK 'coincidence', makes us all laugh over here
[03:30] <naptastic> sacarlson, (Sorry I'm so slow. My sister just called to say she's pregnant so I've been distracted.)
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> naptastic: expected?
[03:31] <Wiesshund> CJ232 unalloted space is not part of a partition, hence its unalotted. If you want to use it the easy way would be grow D: into it
[03:31] <sacarlson> naptastic: no rush on my side, ok can you mount then from a booted system?
[03:31] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: oh yes, not a coincidence, but ironic because in trying to correct he made the same error as the one being corrected :)
[03:31] <bencahill> needlez: anything?
[03:31] <Wiesshund> or you could grow D into it, then shrink D and grow C if you want C bigger
[03:32] <naptastic> ActionParsnip, yes. Actually I predicted it a month ago.... I was too early!
[03:32] <sacarlson> naptastic: I mean can you mount nfs from a booted system?
[03:32] <naptastic> sacarlson, yes, mount, read, write and execute. Everything works correctly from a booted system.
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> naptastic: than in that case, congrats
[03:32] <naptastic> ActionParsnip, thanks! Their first child is adorable and I'm excited they're having another.
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> bencahill: i guess, makes sense :D
[03:33] <bencahill> ActionParsnip: ;)
[03:33] <sacarlson> naptastic: I also had problems in dhcp with the ip change that gave me problems in nfs,  not sure this is your problem
[03:33] <CJ232> but D is a logical drive ... but it's good it will be not part of any thing and I can just grrow C:
[03:33] <CJ232> *grow
[03:33] <Wiesshund> CJ232 are you running linux or windows or both?
[03:33] <CJ232> both
[03:34] <Wiesshund> ok cause you keep using windows terms, was wondering
[03:34] <CJ232> oh sorry
[03:34] <Wiesshund> CJ232 in in simple, which partition did you want bigger?
[03:34] <bencahill> Wiesshund: wait, c: and d: are windows terms? ;P
[03:35] <CJ232> the C drive but I am in xp
[03:35] <edbian> bencahill, definitely
[03:35] <zvrk> CJ232, you sure about that d drive logical is usually recovery from your win
[03:35] <elitedev> lol
[03:35] <bencahill> edbian: jk ;)
[03:35] <CJ232> which the capitalistic M$ programmer wanted you to pay for partiton software
[03:36] <CJ232> not that it's a bad thing
[03:36] <Wiesshund> CJ232 ok then what you do is, you grow d into the unalocated space. when that is done, you drag the front edge of D and shrink it again, making a gap between C and D. When that finishes, you drag the back edge of C and give it the sapce you just made
[03:38] <bencahill> does anyone else have any idea why i can't boot past /scripts/init-bottom
[03:38] <bencahill> ?
[03:38] <Wiesshund> CJ232 partition tools are free, but the average MS user isnt capable of using them without destroying the whole works.
[03:38] <Wiesshund> bencahill can you boot the live cd fully?
[03:38] <naptastic> sacarlson, I don't think DHCP should be a problem; everything is static and well-defined
[03:39] <bencahill> Wiesshund: no
[03:39] <naptastic> sacarlson, running my own DHCP, BIND, NFS, tftp, etc is awesome :-) I love being in control.
[03:39] <bencahill> Wiesshund: never associated the two, but it's probably the same problem, now that i think about it :-/
[03:39] <CJ232> so shrinking from the fron doesnt mean that's where the data that;;ll get overwrittens at on the track of th disk
[03:39] <Anom_> ActionParsnip, hey
[03:39] <Anom_> ok so that ATI 200M is not compatable
[03:39] <CJ232> the plates of the drives tracks
[03:39] <sacarlson> naptastic: the process of pxe involves dhcp look in the dhcp logs to see if the boot tries to get two different address
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> Anom_: sup
[03:40] <Wiesshund> bencahill did you check the boot cd on another machine just to verify it didnt have an error in creation etc
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Anom_: I believe it will use the open driver. You may need an xorg.conf file to make it nice]
[03:40] <naptastic> sacarlson, where do I find the dhcp logs?
[03:40] <sandyd> bencahill: I havent been checking on the convo cause I went outside to give my dog a run, but you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1271827 ?
[03:40] <Anom_> but the ATI drivers work
[03:40] <Wiesshund> CJ232 ive no idea what you just said
[03:40] <Anom_> however certain things are not working perfectly
[03:40] <Anom_> ie. Google Earth looks like crap
[03:40] <sacarlson> naptastic: /var/log/dh??
[03:40] <Anom_> (ATI drivers being open source ones)
[03:40] <schwinn434> I have tried to dual boot Ubuntu 10.10 with Windows xp (it works, as long as I don't install Ubuntu to a seperate HD)
[03:40] <bencahill> Wiesshund: yes, and i also tried booting using a liveusb, but installation using an alternate cd worked fine, it just won't boot :(
[03:40]  * naptastic looks
[03:41] <rvn> i cannot connect to my win7 box from ubuntu 10.10, i tried all the solutions in this thread, no go
[03:41] <rvn> the smb.conf fix did nothing
[03:41] <schwinn434> I have to install both OS onto the same HD to get the computer to dual boot, would like to install ubuntu 10.10 to its own hd
[03:41] <bencahill> sandyd: looking...
[03:41] <rvn> the natty smbclient substitute did nothing
[03:41] <sandyd> Anom_: use gallium
[03:41] <Wiesshund> bencahill hmm, what kind and how new of a laptop?
[03:41] <rvn> schwinn434: you can do that, just have to set the ubuntu disk higher in the boot order in the bios
[03:41] <bencahill> Wiesshund: an old hp zv5410us
[03:41] <naptastic> sacarlson, yeah, no such log files...
[03:42] <Wiesshund> bencahill no familiar with model number, can you give me a rough date that it was new?
[03:42] <rvn> can i do a dist-upgrade to natty from 10.10?
[03:42] <schwinn434> not sure my pentium 4 bios support this rvn
[03:42] <nit-wit> schwinn434, is the second hd a slave that can't be first to boot
[03:42] <rvn> schwinn434: even a pentium one supports this.
[03:42] <linuxmonger> Okay, I loaded up 10.10 and noticed that Pidgin is gone, replaced by Empathy. I give it a try, but can anybody tell me how to get it to do a /list of channels?
[03:42] <bencahill> Wiesshund: don't know, it was given to me, but has an athlon 64 3200+ (i think) and nvidia graphics
[03:42] <Anom_> !gallium
[03:43] <schwinn434> the second hd is a slave with ubuntu installed
[03:43] <rvn> nit-wit: slave disks can be boot disks, that's irrelevant on a modern box
[03:43] <Wiesshund> bencahill ok that gives me a rough idea from the cpu
[03:43] <schwinn434> it shows up under the grup menu but will not boot
[03:43] <nit-wit> schwinn434, can you put the slave first in the bios?
[03:43] <Wiesshund> bencahill have you tried by change booting a 9.x live cd?
[03:43] <sandyd> Anom_: gallium is the new mesa architecture. works really well. for more info -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10350363
[03:43] <sacarlson> naptastic: sorry /var/lib/dhcp3/leas??
[03:43] <schwinn434> have not tried to do this nit-wit did install windows xp first though
[03:44] <nit-wit> schwinn434, put the slave to be read first.
[03:44] <schwinn434> nit-wit: thx
[03:44] <schwinn434> will try this next time
[03:44] <nit-wit> schwinn434, assuming it has grub in its mbr.
[03:44] <PresuntoRJ> is there a PPA for current stable evolution (email-client) version (2.32.1)?
[03:45] <schwinn434> not sure if grub is installed in the mbr
[03:45] <Anom_> sandyd, thanks, not sure how this installs though..
[03:45] <schwinn434> I installed xp first then ubuntu - telling it to install to the 2nd slave hd
[03:45] <nit-wit> schwinn434, does xp boot straight in without grub now.
[03:45] <miyamoto> how to create our own custom live cd,dvd or usb stick for installin ubuntu in different machine so tht i cud save time
[03:46] <schwinn434> again shows up in the grub menu - but will not boot
[03:46] <sacarlson> naptastic: you should see what attepts of dhcp leases here /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases
[03:46] <schwinn434> nit-wit: I installed both os s on one hd, now
[03:46] <schwinn434> and it works, with ubuntu 10.10 the default
[03:47] <Anom_> sandyd, the reason I am asking is because I am not very skilled
[03:47] <Wiesshund> My favorite way to install (with 2 HD) is install windows in HDA, then unplug HDA and install linux on HDB. then either drive could explode, and the other os would boot just fine
[03:47] <naptastic> sacarlson, copy that. Checking...
[03:47] <Anom_> I mean I can do a few things, but is it easy to install ??
[03:47] <schwinn434> gave up on installing unbuntu 10.10 to its own hd
[03:47] <nit-wit> schwinn434, okay, if you can get the slave first in the bios you could install there.
[03:48] <naptastic> sacarlson, yeah, that appears to just be dynamic leases... hang on...
[03:48] <schwinn434> nit-wit: thx for the info
[03:48] <txdv> Wiesshund: it is very unlikely that either will explode
[03:48] <txdv> i got 9 os'es on one disk
[03:48] <sacarlson> naptastic: yes you will see the pxe client in there check the mac to verify
[03:48] <schwinn434> nit-wit: will try to get slave hd to boot first next go around
[03:48] <naptastic> txdv, 0_0
[03:49] <naptastic> sacarlson, my PXE client has a fixed address, ergo, no entry in that file.
[03:49] <rvn> im doing a distribution upgrade from 10.10->11.04 ;)
[03:49] <hasee> I need help, I have a netbook hasee and everything works perfectly, unless the suspension and hibernation
[03:49] <rww> rvn: Good luck. When it breaks horribly, support for unreleased versions is in #ubuntu+1, not here ;)
[03:49] <bencahill> Wiesshund: no, why?
[03:49] <Anom_> sandyd, maybe I should just configure my current open source driver
[03:49] <Wiesshund> txdv i was being over dramatic :) but the point was one disk can disapear and the other wont care (In my case it dissapears cause i pull it and take it to another machine)
[03:49] <Anom_> so I don't screw things up
[03:49] <rvn> rww: i'm looking forward to it not breaking horribly, but we shall see, sir!
[03:49] <hasee> What I can do?
[03:49] <sacarlson> naptastic: I"m not sure how that works,  what if 10 people want to pxe boot?
[03:50] <xaueious> is it okay to ask for help here?
[03:50] <rvn> lol
[03:50] <rvn> yes
[03:50] <xaueious> :D
[03:50] <naptastic> sacarlson, then I have 10 static leases defined in dhcpd.conf. It is a bit of a hassle, but I'm a control freak so it all works out.
[03:50] <Wiesshund> bencahill cause i have a machine here roughly around that age, and it will not run 10.x either same boot issue, but it runs 9.x just fine. 10 doesnt like something on its funky motherboard
[03:51] <sandyd> Anom_: if you screw it up, you can jst go back with ppa-purge....
[03:51] <purpzey> Does anyone have experience with energymech? I am having some issues communicating with it and I really can't figure out why...
[03:51] <Anom_> sandyd, well I don't even see how to install it
[03:51] <xaueious> i am not a long user of ubuntu, but somehow i think i have remapped my 'end' key to something
[03:51] <Anom_> there is no Ubuntu package
[03:51] <xaueious> i can't use my 'end' key
[03:51] <sacarlson> naptastic: oh ok I see what you mean then, yes with that setup you won't see the lease in that file
[03:51] <sandyd> Anom_: add the xorg-edgers ppa
[03:51] <Boatingbum23> when i play movies in full screen. If its not HD I can usually see what looks like  4 horizontal lines that appear when the frames moving, or if it is HD it slows the video down, any way i can fix this without replacing the graphics card?
[03:51] <xaueious> nothing happens
[03:51] <rvn> xaueious: did you rule out hardware problems by booting to another OS or a live cd/usb?
[03:51] <sandyd> Anom_: ill have to drop a line to handy to add it in once the forums are back up
[03:52] <xaueious> it's not a hardware problem for sure
[03:52] <xaueious> works fine in windows
[03:52] <naptastic> sacarlson, okay, so I made a few different initrd's with different options. The one I just tried does manage to get a DHCP lease with the correct address. It starts trying to mount the root over NFS, then stops doing anything and I don't know why.
[03:52] <xaueious> is there a way to troubleshoot this?
[03:52] <xaueious> i'm using gnome
[03:52] <xaueious> but i installed compiz
[03:52] <xaueious> might have mapped it somewhere o_O
[03:53] <rvn> xaueious: i'm pretty sure you didn't remap the key on accident
[03:53] <rvn> xaueious: it's not the easiest thing to do
[03:53] <Nanoha> hi all!  I just got my own IRC server running (ircd)  I can't use nickserv though.  How do I configure my server to use that?
[03:53] <rvn> xaueious: it's possible that compiz assigned it to something, if thats waht u mean
[03:53] <sandyd> Anom_: and sorry for the lag in response. HighWinds CDN is being funky again.
[03:53] <Anom_> sandyd, no probs
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> Nanoha: i'd ask in #freenode
[03:53] <rvn> xaueious: hit alt+F2 and type "ccsm" and hit enter
[03:53] <Anom_> sandyd, add software source
[03:53] <rvn> xaueious: that'll bring up the compiz configuring thing - see if you can find something assigned to the end key and reassign or clear it
[03:53] <sacarlson> naptastic:  maybe monitor with wireshark see what it tries that fails?
[03:53] <piyushmishra> how do I upgrade to php5.3.5 in ubuntu 10.04 or is it not enabled by default for some specific reason?
[03:54] <Anom_> what do I add to add software source sandyd
[03:54] <Anom_> ?
[03:54] <xaueious> okay
[03:54] <sandyd> Anom: add the xorg-edgers
[03:54] <xaueious> checked there...
[03:54] <Nanoha> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[03:54] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:ubuntu not running , after power cut off ,,its saying at startup  failed to mount /proc and /sys no such file system ...help!!!!!!!!!!
[03:54] <xaueious> not there...
[03:55] <hasee> pleasehelp meeee
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> thauriswulfa: i'd boot to livecd and fsck the partitions
[03:55] <rvn> thauriswulfa: sounds like hdd corruption, might need reinstall :/
[03:55] <xaueious> i'll try something else
[03:55] <hasee> I have a netbook hasee and everything works perfectly, unless the suspension and hibernation, what can i do? (sorry for my English)
[03:55] <nobodybk> hey anyone , do you have damn vulnerable linux iso file download direct link ?
[03:55] <rvn> thauriswulfa: yeah if ur lucky that might fix it
[03:55] <xaueious> i did make a xstartup file that was supposed to remap the windows key
[03:55] <naptastic> sacarlson, yeah, how do I tell what succeeds and what fails? I can see a lot of data, but most of it looks like a language I can't understand.
[03:55] <xaueious> maybe that did something
[03:55] <nobodybk> >	hey anyone , do you have damn vulnerable linux iso file download direct link ? i need it
[03:55] <Lavinho> hello
[03:55] <naptastic> sacarlson, every boot attempt generates 26,000 packets of NFS traffic. :-)
[03:55] <thauriswulfa> rvn: no other solution? as i don't have ubuntu cd now
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> hasee: Have you stated your case/asked a question?
[03:55] <Anom_> sandyd, so put into software sources  "xorg-edgers" ?
[03:55] <Lavinho> boas noites
[03:55] <rvn> thauriswulfa: well you can't boot, so you can't do anything without a live disk of some sort, right?
[03:55] <Anom_> I thought it would be like   ppa:xorg-edgers-ppa  something..
[03:56] <sacarlson> naptastic: well if you see a repeat of a packet without responce?  maybe there is also info in nfs logs?
[03:56] <hasee> ??
[03:56] <rvn> thauriswulfa: you can make a live USB if you have access to another machine and you have a usb drive
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> nobodybk: this is ubuntu support, not damn vulnerable linux support
[03:56] <hasee> I have a netbook hasee and everything works perfectly, unless the suspension and hibernation, what can i do?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> hasee: I can't state it any simpler
[03:56] <Anom_> but your saying just xorg-edgers sandyo
[03:56] <Boatingbum23> when i play movies in full screen. If its not HD I can usually see what looks like 4 horizontal lines that appear when the frames moving, or if it is HD it slows the video down, any way i can fix this without replacing the graphics card?
[03:56] <sandyd> Anom_: instructions are here https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[03:56] <Anom_> thanks !!
[03:56] <ayecee> hasee: the easiest thing to do is to avoid using suspension or hibernation.
[03:56] <xaueious> on my Android phone, I can run something called 'getevent' or 'getinput', and it shows me if the keys are actually being registered or not
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> hasee: what make / model is the netbook?
[03:57] <thauriswulfa> rvn: i have only puppy linux only now , no ubuntu download or  cd but i have ubuntu 10.10 server cd
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> xaueious: xev   is the same in linux
[03:57] <rvn> xaueious: xmodmap can do that, and it's used to remap too
[03:57] <rvn> thauriswulfa: puppy might not support teh filesystem you're using on ubuntu
[03:57] <rvn> thauriswulfa: by default ubuntu now uses ext4
[03:57] <thauriswulfa> no it supports
[03:57] <rvn> thauriswulfa: well if it supports it then don't worry, just use that to fsck it
[03:57] <thauriswulfa> rvn: its supports ext4
[03:57] <sandyd> Anom_: remember to install ppa-purge after you add repo
[03:57] <rvn> thauriswulfa: doesnt matter what linux
[03:58] <rvn> thauriswulfa: it's like using XP to repair Vista, it will still fix
[03:58] <thauriswulfa> rvn: how
[03:58] <thauriswulfa> rvn:
[03:58] <rvn> thauriswulfa: fsck /dev/sda1 (or whatever your hdd is)
[03:58] <xaueious> i'll google for a bit
[03:58] <thauriswulfa> rvn:
[03:58] <xaueious> thanks anyway :D
[03:58] <thauriswulfa> how
[03:58] <hasee> i dont know, its a chinese hasee netbook
[03:58] <rvn> thauriswulfa: stop spamming my name, i was typing
[03:58] <thauriswulfa> rvn:sorry
[03:58] <ZenMasta> anyone here know much about vsftpd? the channel is pretty dead and i'm having trouble uploading
[03:58] <ayecee> hasee: what model? it will say on the laptop somewhere.
[03:58] <hasee> but are all the same hardware (hasee)
[03:59] <ayecee> hasee: there are several hasee models
[03:59] <sandyd> Anom_: because if you install it, running "sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa" will return your system back to normal
[03:59] <naptastic> sacarlson, I am starting to think the fs I'm mounting into might be broken in some way. I'mma try something different...
[03:59] <hasee> wait a minute
[03:59] <Anom_> sandyd, install gallium ?
[03:59] <Anom_> sandyd, I am adding this edgers source
[03:59] <sacarlson> ZenMasta: I think vsftpd defaults to only allow read,  look in conf files
[03:59] <Anom_> should that put gallium into my packages ????
[03:59] <Anom_> sandyd,
[03:59] <Anom_> ?
[03:59] <sandyd> Anom_: add it, run "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge"
[04:00] <ZenMasta> sacarlson yeah I know, but I already edited the conf. I actually followed the ubuntu guide to set it up
[04:00] <sandyd> Anom_: then upgrade everything
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> hasee: netbooks use different hardware and this needs working around. Suspend can be quite tricky to get working. Depends on the hardware
[04:00] <Anom_> sandyd, ok
[04:00] <cogsworth> Is there any reason an 8 gig flash drive wouldn't support NTFS formatting
[04:00] <sandyd> Anom_: upgrading everything should give you gallium
[04:00] <hasee> ok
[04:00] <sacarlson> naptastic: I thought you said you mounted it from a booted system and it worked?
[04:00] <dhanijeremy> greetings... how do i manually create a bootable linux distro using USB?
[04:00] <cogsworth> I'm trying to format it to NTFS from GParted but it won't let me.
[04:00] <rvn> cogsworth: i find that linux sucks at formatting things in windows formats.
[04:00] <sandyd> Anom_: remember if it fails, ppa-purge is your friend.
[04:00] <rvn> cogsworth: but what do you mean "it won't let you"
[04:01] <cogsworth> rvn: I was able to format a partition to NTFS from the Ubuntu LiveCD.  And I mean it won't let me as in the ntfs selection is grayed out in GParted.
[04:01] <sandyd> cogsworth: you mean the option is greyed out?
[04:01] <cogsworth> sandyd: Yes
[04:01] <sandyd> cogsworth: ah. that. you have to install ntfs-utils
[04:01] <rvn> cogsworth: no idea.
[04:01] <rvn> cogsworth: ah yeah that would do that
[04:01] <cogsworth> ohhhh ok many thanks Sandyd
[04:01] <naptastic> sacarlson, yes, however I think I created it in an incorrect way, and in some subtle way, it will not boot.
[04:02] <helidude20> I just installed java6.22 from the repository. When I went to java.com to test it stated that the current version is 6.23. Will my system update to the latest version once it's available in the repository ? Thank you
[04:02] <sandyd> cogsworth: or whatever its called. I havent used ubuntu for a long time
[04:02] <hasee> the model is ME12X
[04:02] <Anom_> sandyd, ok perfect
[04:02] <naptastic> sacarlson, right now I am actually taking the hard drive I used to boot from and exporting the / partition over nfs; what I had tried was a copy of that partition made with find and cpio
[04:02] <Anom_> sandyd, ok upgrade or update >
[04:02] <Anom_> ?
[04:02] <naptastic> sacarlson, and I think maybe the copy missed something important.
[04:02] <sandyd> sandyd: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:03] <ayecee> hasee: using what version of ubuntu?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> hasee: let me see what I can find
[04:03] <sandyd> Anom: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:03] <Anom_> upgrade hey
[04:03] <hasee> 10.10
[04:03] <hasee> ok
[04:03] <sacarlson> naptastic: ok
[04:03] <Anom_> ok upgrading
[04:04] <nobodybk> ActionParsnip: Sorry , but DVL support is no more :D , i just need help
[04:04] <naptastic> sacarlson, that was the problem, apparently
[04:04] <sacarlson> naptastic: cool
[04:04] <cogsworth> rvn: I'm having some trouble finding ntfs-utils in the repository, is there any chance you might have it and could point me to it?
[04:05] <naptastic> sacarlson, spoke too soon. It got to a login prompt and now will not login. GRR!!!
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> nobodybk: what is DVL?
[04:05] <rvn> cogsworth: i don't use the GUI, but you can open up a terminal when you know the exact name of what you want and type "sudo apt-get install <THING>", in this case ntfs-utils
[04:05] <sacarlson> naptastic: so if I upgrade with that backport then It should work for me then
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> hasee: have you contacted the supplier?
[04:05] <rvn> cogsworth: i dont use the GUI for the package manager, that is
[04:05] <cogsworth> rvn: Yes, I tried looking for it with aptitude and it isn't listed
[04:05] <cogsworth> rvn: I searched for "ntfs" and looked under all the utils listed
[04:05] <rvn> cogsworth: did you try apt-cache search ntfs-utils
[04:05] <rvn> yeah
[04:06] <rvn> sec.
[04:06] <hasee> ActionParsnip no because they are chinese
[04:06] <rvn> cogsworth: try ntfs-3g-utils
[04:06] <Wiesshund> cogsworth ntfsprogs
[04:06] <hasee> i cant contact they
[04:06] <needlez> ok so im back bencahill: been looking into your issue but didnt see anything promising
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> hasee: so, they should still support you
[04:06] <rvn> cogsworth: go with what he says
[04:06] <nobodybk> ActionParsnip: damn vulnerable linux
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> nobodybk: is it Ubuntu Linux?
[04:06] <linuxmonger> Is there a way to list channels in irc with Empathy? /list doesn't work. Am I missing something simple or is Empathy just weird?
[04:06] <rvn> nobodybk: go away.
[04:06] <cogsworth> Thank you Wiesshund
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> nobodybk: if its not Ubuntu from Canonical, it's not supported here
[04:07] <rvn> linuxmonger: just install pidgin and get it over with.
[04:07] <ayecee> hasee: I couldn't find any info related to your model. All I can suggest is a general suspend/hibernate troubleshooting guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144999.
[04:07] <Wiesshund> cogsworth eh i just remembered it cause i had to make some windows hard drives a while back
[04:07] <sacarlson> naptastic: maybe you forgot your password for this image?
[04:07] <cogsworth> Wiesshund: Is it a terminal-only utility or is it passive?
[04:08] <nobodybk> ActionParsnip: , rvn , you dont need to say that , this is support irc , and i dont spam here , so dont make anyone sad
[04:08] <rvn> cogsworth: both
[04:08] <rvn> cogsworth: the other programs utilize it
[04:08] <rvn> cogsworth: in the background
[04:08] <hasee> ayecee thanks, I'll check it now
[04:08] <Wiesshund> cogsworth once installed just re run gparted
[04:08] <rvn> cogsworth: but you could use it yourself
[04:08] <cogsworth> Ok, thank you both for your help!
[04:08] <linuxmonger> rvn: Thanks, that's the confirmation I needed, back in a few.
[04:08] <rvn> nobodybk: this is UBUNTU support irc, try ##linux
[04:08] <rvn> nobodybk: nobody will mind you asking there
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> nobodybk: this is ubuntu support only, you may get help in the channel for your distro or ##inux
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> ##linux
[04:09] <naptastic> sacarlson, sorry, password?
[04:10] <rvn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1655434&page=2
[04:10] <nobodybk> ActionParsnip, rvn : thanks anyways and be more gentle
[04:10] <rvn> neither solution worked for me
[04:10] <naptastic> sacarlson, fstab was still trying to mount / locally. Trying again...
[04:10] <rvn> i have decided to upgrade to 11.04
[04:10] <sacarlson> naptastic: yes you said you can't login, so maybe password is different?
[04:10] <rvn> any other ideas?
[04:11] <Wiesshund> nobodybk each distro has its own tools quirks and widgets, thats why they all have thier own channels, some problems require distro specific answers
[04:11] <naptastic> sacarlson, the machine hangs after I type my username...
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> rvn: natty is discussed and supported ni #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <rvn> ActionParsnip: i wasn't talking about natty
[04:11] <rvn> ActionParsnip: the problem occured in 10.10
[04:11] <rvn> ActionParsnip: i am upgrading as a possible solution, but was curious if there were other ideas
[04:11] <sacarlson> naptastic: well fstab that should be easy to fix then
[04:12] <naptastic> sacarlson, indeed, and now I've booted into the full graphical environment :-)
[04:12] <Bluefever> Hey, not neccisarily a serious issue, but I can't find anything on google. So I keep trying to play The Penumbra demos for linux, both Overature and Black Plague, but neither will work. I mean after the video sequence , the screen says loading, then it goes away and its just black. I can't exit out of it, and I have to do a hard restart. This is the same for both demos. I've tried turning off the effects for my computer, no apps running in
[04:12] <Nanoha> After I wget a *.bz2 file, how do I install it via the cli?
[04:12] <ayecee> Nanoha: what are you trying to install in bz2 format?
[04:12] <sacarlson> naptastic: ok time for my breakfast then
[04:12] <Anom_> sandyd, ok
[04:12] <Anom_> upgrade done
[04:12] <Anom_> although Google Earth sill looks like crap
[04:12] <rvn> Bluefever: anything proprietary for linux usually breaks after a while, and those aren't too new - 2007 iirc? - so they aren't likely to work on modern linux - try the windows version under wine, more likely to work.
[04:12] <Nanoha> ayecee: atheme-services-6.0.4.tar.bz2
[04:13] <naptastic> sacarlson, thanks for your help! :-)
[04:13] <Bluefever> good idea.
[04:13] <Wiesshund> rvn your havinf linux to win7 share troubles?
[04:13] <Bluefever> I'll try that.
[04:13] <hroberts> Can someone answer a couple of questions for me?  When I am installing server 10.10 and I select print server, is that only installing CUPS?  If I want a Windows PC to connect to it do I also need to select SAMBA
[04:13] <rvn> Wiesshund: yes.
[04:13] <Nanoha> ayecee: run after a wget command
[04:13] <Bluefever> I'll come back with results. @rvn
[04:13] <rvn> Bluefever: gl
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> rvn: java + flash work flawlessly here and are proprietary....
[04:13] <Wiesshund> rvn have you scoured your win7 box for the windows live sign in assistant?
[04:13] <rvn> ActionParsnip: because they are constantly updated
[04:13] <ayecee> Nanoha: tar.bz2 is not a package format. It's like a zip file, the contents could be anything. There's no one way to install it.
[04:14] <piercedwater> Will someone suggest a newsgroup reader/downloader/file assembler for Gnone?
[04:14] <rvn> ActionParsnip: i was referring to one-off proprietary software like games
[04:14] <ayecee> piercedwater: pan
[04:14] <piercedwater> Gnome*
[04:14] <Wiesshund> rvn which incidently seems it also come with live messenger updates
[04:14] <Anom_> Anom_, so I guess not much has improved then with these upgrades ?????
[04:14] <rvn> Wiesshund: no, but if it's on my machine it's due to the SP1 RC i'm running and it won't be going anywhere - it's a fairly fresh install, and there's no live essential packs or related
[04:14] <Nanoha> ayecee: okay, cool.  I know there is a tar command, but I don't remember all the swtiches.  Dont I need a special one for the .bz2 format?
[04:14] <hroberts> Can someone answer a couple of questions for me?  When I am installing server 10.10 and I select print server, is that only installing CUPS?  If I want a Windows PC to connect to it do I also need to select SAMBA
[04:14] <edbian> Anom_, Are you trying to talk to yourself?
[04:14] <ayecee> Nanoha: if you just want to extract it, then tar -xjf file.tar.bz2
[04:15] <Anom_> sorry
[04:15] <piercedwater> thanks ayecee
[04:15] <Anom_> sandyd, so I guess not much has improved then with these upgrades ?????
[04:15] <Omen_20> ok so why is skype in the software center if it comes from unverified sources? It wont let me install it. Retarded.
[04:15] <IdleOne> hroberts: yes to the samba
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> rvn: doom3 works amaznigly, World of warcraft, Halflife, return to castle wolfenstein, Penumbra
[04:15] <hroberts> IdleOne: Thanks
[04:15] <Wiesshund> rvn yea the live sign-in assistant doesnt need you to install the essentials though, one of the normal windows updates has it included. and it isnt really a needed tool, not any bother to remove
[04:15] <rvn> ActionParsnip: halflife and world of warcraft do not have native linux versions afaik
[04:15] <rvn> ActionParsnip: and penumbra isn't working, that's what sparked this
[04:16] <Wiesshund> rvn but it does break samba sharing
[04:16] <hroberts> can you recommend a good How to to configure this print server so i can manage it remotely using a GUI
[04:16] <rvn> ActionParsnip: i have a copy of Alien Crossfire for Linux and it won't work on a modern box, the suggestion from anybody i talked to was "get the windows version and use wine"
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> rvn: wow, works well here. Its a sweet game :)
[04:16] <rvn> yes but that is through wine, no?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> rvn: no the native demo game
[04:16] <rvn> if blizzard released a linux version that'd be bigger news methinks
[04:16] <toon> Hi! Anoynoe knoes what´s up with hu.archive.ubuntu.com it seems gone down, or something?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> rvn: definately
[04:17] <rvn> native demo game?
[04:17] <needlez> rvn: the day blizzard releases a native version id be happy
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> toon: change server in software centre, maybe its being maintained
[04:17] <rvn> i'm not seeing this in google, can you link me?
[04:17] <toon> k thx
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> rvn: yes, penumbra has a free demo version
[04:17] <skraps> for some reason probly really retarded but I cant declare a frikkin function in my bash script it driving me nuts http://pastebin.com/YW5b46iq
[04:17] <Wiesshund> Blizzard could release a linux version easily, i guess they just dont see enough market to put the customer support in place for it
[04:17] <rvn> ActionParsnip: oh that
[04:17] <hroberts> IdleOne: can you recommend a good How to to configure this print server so i can manage it remotely using a GUI
[04:17] <rvn> ActionParsnip: i thot u meant WoW
[04:17] <needlez> rvn, ActionParsnip: Linux native for SC2 would be sweet
[04:18] <rvn> ActionParsnip: bluefever came in here saying the penumbra demos would not work at all for him and i suggested the windows version which will likely function more readily
[04:18] <Nanoha> okay.  I untar'd it.  Now I run ./configure and then make.   Isn't there something else too?
[04:18] <edbian> hroberts, The reason that is hard is because Ubuntu server does not have a gui by default.  You first have to install one (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <IdleOne> hroberts: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ has some info
[04:18] <rvn> ActionParsnip: if you are able to get the demos to work on modern linux perhaps you should assist him
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> rvn: https://eu.battle.net/account/creation/wow/signup/  maybe
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> rvn: what's the nick?
[04:18] <hroberts> thanks guys
[04:18] <rvn> ActionParsnip: bluefever, as i said
[04:18] <skraps> ./user.sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:18] <skraps>  ui get this error, stf
[04:18] <Nanoha> make install (maybe?(
[04:18] <skraps> ./user.sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:19] <rvn> ActionParsnip: lol you noobhead - the "native linux demo" is using crossover, which is bundled wine
[04:19] <mykal> howdy all, having dvd issues. i have looked online and installed the relevant etc. suggestions. i dont get an error, just sits and never plays
[04:19] <rvn> ActionParsnip: it's "natively" bundled with wine..
[04:19] <Wiesshund> I do some work for Playnet, and thats the sole reason WWII Online never had a linux release, we actualy had a native test client up and running and it ran well, but there wasnt enough interest :(
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Bluefever: hey man, you after penumbra? ok, what video chip are you using and are you running (or able to run) desktop effects ok?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> rvn: are we wanting WoW or penumbra
[04:20] <rvn> ActionParsnip: bluefever wants penumbra demos to work
[04:20] <rvn> ActionParsnip: im talking about WoW tho
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> rvn: ok cool
[04:20] <hroberts> One last question and Im out:  Where is the setting to change the workgroup in ubuntu?
[04:21] <rvn> hroberts: the windows workgroup?
[04:21] <rvn> hroberts: i don't know if there's a GUI place to do it, but you can change it in smb.conf
[04:21] <Wiesshund> mykal does the dvd drive work in another OS? can you boot from it like on the live cd etc?
[04:21] <skilz> how can I have a remote ubuntu system email me it's ip adress each time it connects to the net?
[04:21] <hroberts> when I browse the network it shows as default, I would like it to say roberts
[04:21] <hroberts> smb.conf thanks
[04:21] <rvn> skilz: i think you'd have to write your own program for that
[04:21] <skilz> I want some script so when my sister connects I get an email with her IP.
[04:21] <rvn> or script
[04:22] <mykal> installed not long ago fromn the same drive, trying another dvd in it now to test the disk
[04:22] <Wiesshund> skilz you could sign it up for dyn-ip
[04:22] <edbian> skilz, well lets see.  The easy part is the script, the hard part is activating it
[04:22] <skilz> so then I can ssh into her system
[04:22] <rvn> well you could activate it via.. erm.. what was that
[04:22] <rvn> there's a startup script in *nix..
[04:22] <rvn> i'm rusty..
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> skilz: do you want the WAN IP or it's LAN IP?
[04:22] <rvn> rc.. something
[04:22] <skilz> internet IP
[04:22] <Wiesshund> rc_local
[04:22] <skilz> WAN
[04:22] <Wiesshund> ?
[04:23] <skilz> she uses mobile broadband
[04:23] <rvn> Wiesshund: the linux startup script that you can piggyback commands and other scripts onto
[04:23] <edbian> skilz, You want her public IP so that you can ssh into the machine
[04:23] <cj23> HI
[04:23] <Wiesshund> skilz just sign her of for free dyn-ip service
[04:23] <mykal> Wiesshund, another dvd, same issue
[04:23] <cj23> oops
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> skilz: why bother, just setup a no-ip account and install noip2 it will then refresh the IP in the account and you can use a name, just like you use names in your web browser instead of IPs
[04:23] <txdv> getting the wan ip adderss is easy, 3-6 lines in ruby
[04:23] <skraps> see it was me being retarded, sudo was killing me, rofl
[04:23] <mykal> Wiesshund, perhaps i have missed something
[04:23] <sacarlson> skilz: you could have it auto tunnel to you with openvpn  then her ip would always be the same
[04:23] <Wiesshund> mykal you got your liveCD handy? just quickly see if you can boot it?
[04:23] <skilz> I dont know the ip address but
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> txdv: its making life hard, could use a free dns service
[04:24] <mykal> Wiesshund, will try now
[04:24] <skilz> I have the computer her, I want to do all that before she gets it back and knows
[04:24] <Wiesshund> skilz just use a dun-ip service then she will always be sisterpc.blah.com
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> skilz: you don't need it. Setup an account then install the client on the PC which will update the IP in the DNS at regular intervals so if the IP changes, you dont care
[04:25] <skilz> ah ok
[04:25] <skilz> so dyndns?
[04:25] <cj23> wiesshound, shrinking and then enlarging didn't work becuase the drive adjecent to the one I want to resize is a logical drive : http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=4cjy9v0f2esyhjw&thumb=6
[04:25] <sacarlson> skilz: with openvpn to your server it will also get past any firewall she hapens to be under at the time
[04:25] <Wiesshund> http://www.dyndns.com/
[04:25] <WhatToDo> where can i download codecs?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> skilz: I suggest no-ip as there is an ubuntu service which runs in the background to update the address. I'm not aware if there is a dyndns app
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | WhatToDo
[04:26] <hasee_> WhatToDo in a terminal type sudo-apt get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:27] <sacarlson> skilz: if she connects from a wifi her IP won't help you connect to her even if you did know
[04:27] <needlez> WhatToDo: what codecs do you need?? if its ones for dvd playback and windows movie playback just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:28] <txdv> Im glad that my moms internet connection has an external ip address
[04:28] <txdv> I can connect to her computer and do shit
[04:28] <IdleOne> txdv: please keep the language clean
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> txdv: all web connections have an external IP.....
[04:29] <Wiesshund> cj23 er wow that is kind of a mess
[04:31] <cj23> bucky is that like Captain Americas sidekick James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes
[04:31] <bucky> that's it!
[04:31] <Some_Person> How can I turn off this particular notification? http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4872/screenshotdu.png
[04:31] <cj23> ^^ cool
[04:32] <Wiesshund> cj23 im not really sure the best suggestion to clean that up, maybe ask ActionParsnip to look at the image?
[04:32] <cj23> ok
[04:32] <Wiesshund> I mean i got a suggestion but it's not the happiest one
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Some_Person: usually you can just ignore it and it goes after a time
[04:33] <Some_Person> ActionParsnip: Not on Debian
[04:33] <cj23> reformat
[04:33] <KM0201> Some_Person: system/preferences/power management, click on the "general" tab... and in "Notification Area" change it to your desired setting
[04:33] <KM0201> Some_Person: if you'renot on debian, that sure looks like debian
[04:33] <KM0201> lol
[04:34] <zer0c00l> What is the version of python ubuntu 10.10 uses?
[04:34] <infectedbrain> Hello all
[04:34] <Some_Person> KM0201: No, I meant it doesn't go away on Debian
[04:34] <Some_Person> KM0201: Not on its own at least
[04:34] <KM0201> oh.. well then try what i said above
[04:34] <cj23> ActionParsnip:  I have a setup as shown http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=4cjy9v0f2esyhjw&thumb=6 but I want to grow  C:. I cant shrink D: and use that space to enlarge C: becuase D is a logical drive in an extended partition... Got any ideas?
[04:34] <edbian> zer0c00l, 2.7
[04:34] <zer0c00l> edbian: thanks
[04:35] <infectedbrain> What irc client is better ... xchat or the gnome xchat
[04:35] <infectedbrain> JW
[04:35] <Wiesshund> infectedbrain depends on personal preference
[04:35] <needlez> zer0c00l: been watching Hackers too much??
[04:35] <infectedbrain> me?
[04:35] <KM0201> infectedbrain: personal preference.. i heard a joke that they called xchat-gnome "xchat-gnome", because "xchat-withallthefeaturesremoved" was to long.. :)
[04:35] <infectedbrain> in your opinion witch is better
[04:35] <Wiesshund> I use mirc of all things so just depends on which client you like
[04:36] <skilz> for some reason, when I click to play a movie with VLC it works fine, but if it opens with movie player, I can't see any video till I reboot?
[04:36] <Some_Person> KM0201: I want the icon to stay, but not the giant notification. I see no option for that
[04:36] <KM0201> !best | infectedbrain
[04:36] <infectedbrain> or witch has a more streamlined UI
[04:36] <skilz> It's so annoying, because the default player for video is movie player, how can I change it to VLC so it stays that way?
[04:36] <infectedbrain> ah. i see
[04:36] <ayecee> I'd think their UIs are virtually identical
[04:36] <Wiesshund> they are
[04:36] <AbhiJit> when i run vim it say its not installed ask your admin to install one of them. but when i run vi it runs and tellme its vim vi improved
[04:36] <AbhiJit> how ???????
[04:37] <infectedbrain> Hey does anyone know the name of the plugin for firefox that tells the website you are using windows. I have an idea of how to get netflix to work
[04:37] <NewToUbuntu> hello there, anybody with patience to help a guy with rlly basic question with ubuntu 10.10?
[04:37] <winged_arel> anybody free to help me with a problem caused by a Wubi ubuntu install and 10.04?
[04:37] <infectedbrain> I could try to help...
[04:37] <AbhiJit> !ask | NewToUbuntu
[04:37] <AbhiJit> winged_arel, ^^^^
[04:37] <barf_barf> infectedbrain: useragent switcher?
[04:37] <winged_arel> I just install
[04:37] <Anom_> sandyd, hey you there I have major probs here
[04:37] <winged_arel> sorry, hit Cr on accident
[04:37] <Wiesshund> AbhiJit no symb link i would guess?
[04:38] <AbhiJit> Wiesshund, amm??? what means?
[04:38] <infectedbrain> AH thas it thank... btw why is your test red barf?
[04:38] <infectedbrain> thats*
[04:38] <skilz> !ask NewToUbuntu
[04:38] <skilz> !ask
[04:39] <barf_barf> infectedbrain: what?
[04:39] <skilz> oh it's |
[04:39] <Wiesshund> AbhiJit symbolic link? an alias kind of
[04:39] <winged_arel> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 via Wubi, then went to update. grub-pc wanted to update, so i did what the installer recomended to install toboth drives in my tower. now my windows bootloader is lost and i have a grub rescue prompt
[04:39] <cj23> ActionParsnip: are you busy
[04:39] <skilz> 10.04?
[04:39] <winged_arel> yes
[04:39] <AbhiJit> Wiesshund, no this is clean new install. i havnt created any alias. now i am installing vim
[04:39] <skilz> why not 10.10
[04:40] <winged_arel> i'm doing that LTS thing
[04:40]  * KM0201 uses LTS for 6mo :)
[04:40] <infectedbrain> What is the UA for windows?
[04:40] <winged_arel> UA?
[04:40] <infectedbrain> User Agent. it says to type that into the plugin
[04:40] <Wiesshund> AbhiJit eh ok im confused, i thought you said nothing runs when you type vim, but if you ran vi it was vim?
[04:41] <winged_arel> it just popped up with where i want grub to install, didn't ask anything about the UA
[04:41] <AbhiJit> Wiesshund, right
[04:41] <AbhiJit> Wiesshund, so now i am installing sudo apt-get install vim
[04:42] <infectedbrain> grub? sorry linux newb.... no its a plugin for firefox i have an idea of how to get netflix to work.
[04:42] <Wiesshund> infectedbrain what are you installing?
[04:42] <AbhiJit> Wiesshund, its solved. now vim is running!
[04:42] <infectedbrain> the plugin? Useragent switcher
[04:43]  * winged_arel is very confused now
[04:43] <infectedbrain> as am i
[04:43] <Wiesshund> infectedbrain http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/help/
[04:43] <infectedbrain> btw is there like a ctrl-alt-delete for linux?
[04:43] <sabgenton> is there any reason to use realvnc over ultravnc?
[04:44] <wolter> I need help enabling my audible bell, no settings will do
[04:44] <sabgenton> the ubuntu help doesn't mention realvnc for a windows choice
[04:44] <sabgenton> sorry
[04:44] <Wiesshund> infectedbrain dunno i use tightvnc cause it does opengl desktops properly
[04:44] <sabgenton> doesn't meantion ultravnc I mean *
[04:44] <winged_arel> infectedbrain: you can set one somewhere, but the kill-x keystroke is disabled by default
[04:45] <infectedbrain> ubuntu software center froze :(
[04:45] <sabgenton> I'm really just suprised https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients doesn't mention ultravnc
[04:46] <sabgenton> for a windows conection choice
[04:46] <infectedbrain> anyone know of a game project that needs a coder....an intermediate code but still...
[04:46] <sabgenton> but does mention realvnc
[04:46] <Anom_> hello
[04:46] <Anom_> need help