[18:22] <BobJonkman> Hey, who's coming to Ubuntu Hour Toronto tomorrow?
[20:31] <genii> If anyone sees Aruna, let him know I'll be there tomorrow ( although I just also fired off a confirmation to the mailing list )
[21:04] <BobJonkman> Yay genii!
[21:04] <BobJonkman> You'll be able to slide over an honest-to-goodness, atoms-and-molecules coffee!
[21:04] <genii> BobJonkman: Hah, hellos! Are you coming down for this?
[21:05] <BobJonkman> Yup! Trekking through to snow to the big smoke
[21:05] <BobJonkman> did you register on the LoCo portal?
[21:05] <genii> Cool. I have an Ukranian fellow I met recently who is pretty gung-ho and wants to come.... No, didn't register yet, probably should...
[21:06] <BobJonkman> So just based on promises alone, this looks to be pretty successful
[21:09] <genii> OK, signed up there now :)
[21:10] <genii> Including you +2, me +1 and Aruna, we should have at least 6....
[21:11] <BobJonkman> azend said something about coming too
[21:11] <BobJonkman> I'm offering a ride. Hey, azend, you there?
[21:12] <azend> helloo
[21:12] <azend> Was it this saturday or sunday?
[21:12] <BobJonkman> Saturday, tomorrow
[21:12] <genii> Saturday, 2pm
[21:12] <BobJonkman> 2:00pm,
[21:12] <BobJonkman> I'm leaving here at noon, be in Guelph about noon:30
[21:13] <BobJonkman> We (me, Laurel, slayah) are planning to getting dinner in TO
[21:13] <BobJonkman> Hopefully to be accompanied by Ubuntoids
[21:13] <azend> Sounds like fun
[21:14] <azend> Let me double check with my parents
[21:14] <BobJonkman> Make them come too
[21:14] <genii> Hehe
[21:14] <azend> Just in case my parents have decided it's time to see the grandparents again
[21:14] <azend> BobJonkman: hehe
[21:15] <azend> So my mother is thinking about learning SQL
[21:15] <azend> Any Oracle DBAs around? :)
[21:16] <BobJonkman> You'll want an IBMmer.  DB2 rulez
[21:18] <azend> :P
[21:19] <azend> I've done a good amount of database stuff but I've never touched oracle
[21:19] <BobJonkman> SQL is independent of Oracle. Lots of DBs use SQL, even MS-Access
[21:20] <azend> Yes, SQL is just a spec
[21:20] <azend> The problem is that nobody follows the spec properly
[21:20] <azend> So every rdbms works a little bit differently
[21:21] <BobJonkman> I believe IBM invented SQL for DB2, before Larry Ellison was even born
[21:22] <BobJonkman> OK, maybe not. Wikipedia sez Ellison b.1944, DB2 released 1983
[21:22] <BobJonkman> That seems too recent to me.
[21:22] <azend> DB2 is ten years older than I am >_>
[21:23] <BobJonkman> SQL developed at IBM for their RBase system in 1970.  That's a better timeframe
[21:24] <genii> I just sent off invites to about 10-12 people so I guess we'll see if any show.
[21:24] <BobJonkman> Oops. /me confuses R:BASE with IBM's System R
[21:27] <azend> genii: Will you judge me if I bring a mac :P
[21:28] <genii> azend: Of course, but gently!
[21:28] <azend> I should bring a live usb with arch on it and set it up on my netbook while I"m there
[21:28] <azend> I just installed a new hyperx ssd in my netbook but haven't gotten the chance to install an os yet
[21:29] <genii> azend: Actually, I try not to get judgemental about what hardware or OS people prefer, it's what works best for them that is the main thing.
[21:32] <azend> That's cool
[21:33] <BobJonkman> Apple HW is lovely. I'd be happy with it, as long as I can use the SW (and OS) I want
[21:33] <azend> Yeah, the hw is pretty nice
[21:34] <azend> I'm still disgusted with the software though :)
[21:35] <BobJonkman> azend: Does your mac have two drive bays?
[21:35] <azend> like disk or hard drive?
[21:36] <BobJonkman> Yup
[21:36] <azend> I have no optical disk tray
[21:37] <azend> I basically have no hard disk tray
[21:37] <azend> It's a custom ssd that is specially mounted
[21:37] <BobJonkman> My current laptop has only one 3.5" SATA drive bay, and something it calls a Removable Upgrade Bay (that's DVD to you and me)
[21:37] <azend> cool
[21:37] <genii> If anyone likes old Macs I have two Molar Mac AIO free to a good home
[21:38] <BobJonkman> genii Post it on the list, or ping FreeGeek
[21:38] <genii> Okeley Dokely :)
[21:38] <azend> genii: I think I know some people who would take you up on that just for the history of it
[21:39] <genii> azend: They are currently running Some older MacOS, I think 7.5 or maybe 8.1, was going to tinker with Yellow Dog Linux on them but never got around to it
[21:42] <samthetechie> o/
[21:44] <BobJonkman> Just invited the folks on irc://oftc.net/#cryptoparty
[21:44] <BobJonkman> Hi samthetechie!
[21:45] <BobJonkman> aruna has a new GnuPG key, so we're going to be holding an informal keysigning
[21:45] <BobJonkman> Bring along your fingerprint strips!
[21:46]  * genii ponders monkeyspheres
[21:46] <BobJonkman> I use gpg-key2ps from http://pgp-tools.alioth.debian.org to print fingerprint strips
[21:46] <samthetechie> hehe have you seen: http://web.monkeysphere.info/monkeysign/
[21:47] <BobJonkman> Monkeysign looks cool!
[21:48] <genii> samthetechie: Yes, I have been looking at alternate key/cert trust systems lately, actually. Some of the guys I'm working on little projects with are Symantec-haters
[21:49] <genii> ( so that includes pgp.com and verisign, they own both now )
[21:51] <BobJonkman> But GnuPG is independent of Symantec, isn't it?
[21:52] <BobJonkman> Same keyspace/WoT as PGP, but entirely different software
[21:53] <genii> Yes, GnuPG is an open source implementation of OpenPGP standard
[21:53] <genii> ( whereas the Symantec PGP products are commercial )
[21:55]  * BobJonkman didn't realize PGP had been acquired by Symantec.
[21:55] <BobJonkman> I knew it had been part of McAfee, and re-gained independence
[21:57] <genii> BobJonkman: Yeah, and then they got real pissy about pulling formerly free downloads of the PGP software and going after anyone who still offered them
[21:59] <BobJonkman> Didn't know that. /me has been in the Free Software world too long :)
[22:06]  * genii shakes a fist in the general direction of Symantec HQ
[23:42] <BobJonkman> Hi aruna_
[23:43] <BobJonkman> Looks like there will be good turnout for Ubuntu Hour Toronto
[23:46] <azend> BobJonkman: do I have your phone number?
[23:46] <BobJonkman> +1-519-635-9413
[23:46] <azend> You could have PMed me it :)
[23:46] <BobJonkman> I grabbed yours from the Interwebs
[23:46] <azend> Yeah, I'm pretty easily findable
[23:47] <azend> Which one did you find?
[23:47] <BobJonkman> Sure I could have PMd it, but now people will call me and offer me work :)
[23:47] <BobJonkman> I found it on azend.org
[23:48] <azend> yeah, I think that one is old
[23:48] <azend> You're better off trying +1-226-606-5050
[23:48] <BobJonkman> OK, I'll put that in my phone.
[23:48] <azend> The one on azend.org is my Rogers phone
[23:49] <azend> the one I just gave you is my WIND setup
[23:49] <azend> BobJonkman: Is the job pool still running dry?
[23:49] <BobJonkman> Little jobs, nothing sustainable.
[23:50] <azend> Ah, that sucks
[23:50] <azend> What are you looking for?
[23:51] <BobJonkman> Just did a WordPress recovery (DB hacking), but I'll take anything from network cabling to sysadmin to teaching
[23:52] <azend> Are you willing to make the TO commute?
[23:52] <BobJonkman> Yup.
[23:52] <azend> Hmm.
[23:52] <BobJonkman> Did that for years, 'til I got a contract in Mississauga.
[23:52] <azend> I'll see what I can do :)
[23:52] <BobJonkman> That'd be great!
[23:53] <BobJonkman> So, you in for Ubuntu Hour tomorrow?
[23:54] <azend> If I'm awake, yes
[23:54] <azend> I basically haven't slept in the last week and a half
[23:54] <azend> School is crazy right now
[23:54] <BobJonkman> :) Yes, that's a prerequisite for me driving, too
[23:54] <BobJonkman> Exams, I'll bet
[23:54] <azend> exams are the easy part
[23:55] <azend> My program works us 80 hours a week average
[23:55] <BobJonkman> Coop terms?
[23:55] <azend> and for some reason our professors decided it would be a good idea to base 55% of the mark on one of our classes on deliverables due the last week of class
[23:56] <azend> deliverables you're only expected to have at most a week to complete
[23:56] <azend> BobJonkman: no, that's regular class
[23:56] <BobJonkman> Wow.
[23:56] <BobJonkman> Two-year program?
[23:57] <azend> Why do you think I feel so terrible about dropping the ball on Ubuntu Guelph events
[23:57] <azend> no
[23:57] <azend> three year
[23:57] <BobJonkman> You should pass the baton to John Kerr, who might run with it
[23:57] <azend> I was thinking about it
[23:58] <BobJonkman> Just post to the Guelph list that you're swamped, and would like someone else to host
[23:58] <azend> Does he come on the IRC much?
[23:58] <BobJonkman> No, not often. He's on Google+ a lot though
[23:58] <azend> I bumped into his profile on LinkedIn the other day


[14:59]  * slangasek waves
[14:59]  * stgraber waves
[14:59]  * barry wavers
[15:00] <jodh> o/
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 27 15:01:35 2014 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity)
[15:02] <slangasek> doko slangasek infinity cjwatson bdmurray caribou barry jodh xnox stgraber
[15:03] <slangasek> doko_: hi
[15:03] <doko_>  - another round of GCC updates
[15:03] <doko_>  - python 3.4 update, python 3.3 removal
[15:03] <doko_>  - cleaning up a bit in -proposed, nbs
[15:03] <doko_>  - scan for compiler ICEs in the 4.9 test rebuild, file upstream issues
[15:03] <doko_>  - some random updates and ftbfs fixes
[15:03] <doko_> (done) there was more, can't remember all ...
[15:04] <barry> \o/ for 3.3 removal
[15:04] <doko_> a few days remaining to remove ruby1.9.1 and update to ruby2.0 ;-P
[15:05] <slangasek> oh?
[15:05] <slangasek>  * catching up on the world after being heads-down on customer work for two weeks
[15:05] <slangasek>  * moving forward on the Java role; expected to begin interviewing next week
[15:05] <slangasek>  * participating in good discussions about the current landing process and bottlenecks around image promotion (cf. Qt5.2)
[15:05] <slangasek>  * discussions around some late FFes coming in
[15:05] <slangasek>  * performance review discussions using the new and improved process
[15:05] <slangasek> (done)
[15:05] <slangasek> doko_: are we switching to ruby2.0 for trusty, or is it your turn to troll? :)
[15:06] <slangasek> infinity's not here, so cjwatson:
[15:06] <cjwatson> Finished landing upstart-app-launch performance improvements via libclick.
[15:06] <cjwatson> Clawed away some of the backlog of uninstallables on arm64/ppc64el.
[15:06] <cjwatson> grub-installer fixes for ppc64el.
[15:06] <doko_> well, I assume security would like to only support one version, but nobody is pushing for it, and the puppet people won't look at it as usual :-/
[15:06] <cjwatson> Continuing work on making ubuntu-sdk-libs-dev:armhf installable for "click chroot".  Landed: dee, libaccounts-glib.  Current blockers: libfriends, qml-friends.
[15:06] <cjwatson> ubiquity fixes for final beta (reviewed bug 1297312, worked around bug 1296697).
[15:06] <cjwatson> Started trying to get my juju cross-build environment back up on trusty.
[15:06] <cjwatson> ..
[15:07] <cjwatson> ruby updates are a long way behind - I spent some time looking at various bits, it's a mess
[15:07] <cjwatson> like ruby-gnome2, we can fix it, realistically it'll take a new upstream version which'll need an FFe
[15:07] <cjwatson> and it's kind of all like that
[15:08] <cjwatson> but maybe I just don't know it well enough
[15:08] <slangasek> doko_: who are "the puppet people"?
[15:09]  * barry thinks that sounds like a great band name or horror movie title
[15:09] <slangasek> doko_: in the future, can we please make such questions a UDS session, so that we discuss with the server team at the beginning of the cycle and get a committment from them to include this work on their roadmap for the cycle?
[15:09] <barry> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051381/
[15:10] <slangasek> cjwatson: speaking of puppets, I had bug #1292628 escalated to me in person; this seems to be a regression in the interaction between grub-install, grub-installer, and kickseed following the recent grub-installer rewrite.  Do you think this should be on the radar for 14.04?
[15:11] <doko_> slangasek, how? the plans for 2.0 did start in debian only in January ...
[15:11] <cjwatson> slangasek: I'll have a look
[15:11] <slangasek> doko_: hmmm. put the UDS session on the agenda, and make the server team do their homework on ruby versions before the meeting? :)
[15:12] <doko_> ok
[15:12] <cjwatson> surprising that the grub-mkdevicemap code would have broken; so hopefully it's not too hard
[15:12] <slangasek> the planning for ruby2.0 may have started in January, but I guess if someone would have asked the Debian ruby team in November they would've had a good guess
[15:12]  * bdmurray is ready but waiting
[15:12] <cjwatson> I vaguely recall the Debian ruby maintainer mentioning 2.0 at debconf in July/August or so
[15:13] <slangasek> cjwatson: sorry, it's not grub-mkdevicemap that's the problem per se, the problem is that kickseed is feeding us '(hd0)' as an override and grub-install never has a device map on disk so seems to not do anything sensible
[15:13] <cjwatson> though it was in passing and I don't think he mentioned a timescale
[15:13] <cjwatson> slangasek: right, but the grub-mkdevicemap calling code in grub-installer is meant to deal with that just as it did in prior releases
[15:13] <slangasek> hmm
[15:13] <slangasek> ok
[15:13] <slangasek> stgraber: ?
[15:13] <cjwatson> I'm not disbelieving the bug or anything, just saying it's hopefully shallow
[15:14] <doko_> yes, met him at Connect a few weeks ago. I think we can't remove it, but likely demote it if puppet works with 2.0
[15:14] <stgraber> slangasek: ?
[15:15] <bdmurray> I think I was next so I'll start now
[15:15] <bdmurray> confirm prodstack data is appearing on graphite
[15:15] <bdmurray> reported daisy bug 1295400 regarding retracer sandboxes
[15:15] <bdmurray> submitted merge proposal to daisy to remove sandbox dir data after each retrace (bug 1295400)
[15:15] <bdmurray> merged thedac's changes to the daisy-retracer charm
[15:15] <bdmurray> updated daisy's submit.py to reject crashes from armel systems as we have no retracer for them
[15:15] <bdmurray> verified that bug 1267112 is in fact fixed since we have a bucket for the ubiquity / autopilot-gtk bug
[15:15] <bdmurray> investigation into hplip-data crashes missing package and sourcepackage information
[15:15] <bdmurray> tested daisy (haproxy config) changes to reduce occurrence of 502 errors in whoopsie
[15:15] <bdmurray> worked with thedac regarding missing OOPS reports from prodstack version of errors
[15:15] <bdmurray> updated my apport retrace-package-versions merge proposal
[15:15] <bdmurray> sent error tracker armhf announcement
[15:15] <bdmurray> investigation into armhf crashes on errors (webbrowser-app failed to retrace, likely due to outdated debug symbol package for liblttng-ust0)
[15:16] <bdmurray> SRU queue work with arges
[15:16] <bdmurray> uploaded a fix for bug 1294392
[15:16] <bdmurray> ␗ done
[15:16] <bdmurray> research into update-manager test suite failures (bug 1295392)
[15:16] <slangasek> stgraber: hah, yes, somehow I thought you were next - sorry :)
[15:16] <slangasek> caribou: anything you'd like to share today?
[15:17] <caribou> I'm next, it'll be quick
[15:17] <caribou> * Completed uvtool documentation in the server guide
[15:17] <caribou> *btmp logging re-enabling (Debian bug #742775)
[15:17] <caribou> * Misc bug fixing
[15:17] <caribou> Done
[15:17] <barry> short week due to holiday
[15:17] <slangasek> bdmurray: we should have noisemakers and party hats for the armhf retracers
[15:18] <barry> phone: py3 autopilot: gallery-app, address-book-app.  trying to further debug phablet-test-run issues.
[15:18] <barry> ubuntu/debian: LP: #1295392. LP: #1296325. pystache FTBFS. pip 1.5.3-1 (blocked on python-distutil in stuck in NEW).  ensurepip/pyvenv for debian.  other general debian work
[15:18] <barry> other: debugging python import problems for security team (http://tinyurl.com/l7ps5br).  code reviews for other internal projects.
[15:18] <barry> done
[15:18] <jodh> * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items
[15:18] <jodh>   - cgroup support: Spent a lot of time debugging the async spawn issue
[15:18] <jodh>     with help from cjwatson. As a result of that, we're now planning not
[15:18] <jodh>     to pursue the async spawning feature due to the fact that to
[15:18] <jodh>     implement this fully would require an extensive refactoring of the
[15:18] <jodh>     Upstart core. As such, I'm now refocusing on the cgroup branch with
[15:18] <jodh>     the intention of either having Upstart manage its own cgroups, or
[15:18] <jodh>     working with hallyn to refactor cgmanager to allow Upstart to
[15:18] <jodh>     leverage that work in some form.
[15:18] <jodh> * upstart
[15:18] <jodh>   - Wrote draft release notes for Upstart
[15:18] <jodh>     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart
[15:19] <jodh>   - Reworked MP for logrotate improvements:
[15:19] <cjwatson> caribou: fwiw I don't think the claim in that btmp bug is totally true; Debian stable at least still has -rw-rw---- 1 root utmp 0 Mar  1 08:02 /var/log/btmp
[15:19] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/trusty/upstart/periodic-logrotate-using-events/+merge/212569
[15:19] <jodh>   -
[15:19] <jodh> Ⱆ
[15:19] <cjwatson> caribou: this isn't simple, need to track down exactly what changed and when
[15:19] <cjwatson> otherwise I'll cause regressions
[15:19] <caribou> cjwatson: ok, will check that out
[15:19] <stgraber> no xnox so I guess that's my turn then
[15:20] <stgraber> LXC:
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Finally tracked down our last 1.0.2 blocker, will release 1.0.2 today with cgmanager support enabled in Ubuntu (that may be our last LXC upload for the cycle)!
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Some more CI infrastructure work (almost everything runs in Jenkins now)
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Code reviews
[15:20] <stgraber>  - A couple of bugfixes for lxc-ls performance when > 2k containers and userns config fixes
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Fire fighting the latest apparmor breakage (they broke the parser causing quite a few bug reports for LXC upstream and in Ubuntu...)
[15:20] <stgraber> logind:
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Unblocked as the cgmanager MIR was finally approved!
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Filed the FFe to get cgmanager support landed: bug 1297363
[15:20] <stgraber> network:
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Uploaded a new ifupdown fixing quite a few bugs reported by CTS.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Uploaded a new vlan fixing another bug reported by CTS.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Did some more triaging of our network packages.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Answered some of lamont's OpenVPN questions and looked into a few NM OpenVPN crashes.
[15:20] <cjwatson> caribou: ah, actually that's not a problem per the code ... would still like to know when/where btmp changed perms though
[15:20] <stgraber> system-image:
[15:20] <stgraber>  - some discussions and some code to get new image notifications delivered by the new push service.
[15:20] <stgraber> other:
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Helping lttng upstream update their packages to a stable version for 14.04.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Couple of CI-Train landings.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Some FFe and queue review.
[15:20] <stgraber>  - Helped setup Beta 2, tested Edubuntu, fixed a couple of issues, added ppc64el to tracker + cdimage scripts, ...
[15:20] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:21] <cjwatson> caribou: ah, and openssh itself has started allowing group rw since the bug was originally filed, too, which was the other part of i
[15:21] <cjwatson> t
[15:22] <slangasek> any questions over status?
[15:22] <slangasek> btw, I should have mentioned, I'll be off Monday
[15:24] <slangasek> [topic] AOB
[15:24] <slangasek> anything else today?
[15:25] <bdmurray> Could someone have a look at bug 1296386 and related bug 1296373?
[15:25] <slangasek> has someone started putting together beach recommendations for the May sprint?
[15:26] <slangasek> bdmurray: any reason those shouldn't be pushed to ubuntu-sponsors?
[15:26] <slangasek> alternatively, you could check if infinity wants to have a look at this
[15:26] <cjwatson> caribou: ah, I found it, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=370050
[15:26] <bdmurray> ubuntu-sponsors deals with branches and debdiffs not ordinary patches last I knew
[15:27] <cjwatson> ubuntu-sponsors largely shouldn't care about the format
[15:27] <cjwatson> those are native packages, the difference between a patch and a debdiff is negligible
[15:27] <bdmurray> I don't think it was the format so much as the volume
[15:28] <bdmurray> However, the system (of choosing who to subscribe) was setup quite some time ago
[15:31] <slangasek> I think it's fine to have separate frontline review of patch-tagged bugs to make sure they're actually ready for sponsorship, but in this case I think it would be ready for sponsorship
[15:33] <bdmurray> slangasek: ah, that makes sense
[15:35] <bdmurray> okay, I'll ping infinity and depending on that subscribe sponsors
[15:35] <slangasek> bdmurray: sounds good
[15:35] <slangasek> aught else?
[15:36] <cjwatson> naught
[15:36] <cjwatson> except for wondering why the sudden Elizabethan English :)
[15:36] <slangasek> ;)
[15:36] <cjwatson> sorry, "save for"
[15:37] <slangasek> cjwatson: variety
[15:37] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar 27 15:37:17 2014 UTC.
[15:37] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-03-27-15.01.moin.txt
[15:37] <slangasek> thanks all
[15:37] <barry> thanks!
[15:37] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:37] <jodh> thanks!


[16:52] <wrst> hello Omnifrog
[17:28] <Omnifrog> hiya wrst
[17:30] <wrst> how you doing Omnifrog?
[18:22] <Omnifrog> I seem to have contracted the chest cold my kid  had the last couple weeks :(
[18:22] <wrst> ugh that's no fun


[09:52] <AlanBell> I was following these instructions http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/
[09:52] <AlanBell> morning all, I am trying to run unity 8 in a window on 13.10, but it only displays a tiny (1px wide) window and throws up the following errors
[09:53] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813203/


[12:33] <joelkraehemann> doko: ping
[12:33] <joelkraehemann> I just answered your email
[19:46] <doko> joelkraehemann: ta
[19:57] <joelkraehemann> hi doko
[19:57] <joelkraehemann> ask me what you want ...
[19:59] <doko> nothing more to ask. our release managers need to configure the autopkg test to run on the bigger instances
[19:59] <joelkraehemann> doko: have you tried to run the tests with more than 1 GB RAM?
[20:00] <doko> no, not yet. letting the autopkg testers do their work ...
[20:03] <joelkraehemann> great!
[20:04] <xnox> doko, one can proposed a merge proposal... the conifgs are in git and public
[20:04] <xnox> doko, what package do you believe needs to be bumped to be marked as "big_packages" ?
[20:05] <doko> xnox: joelkraehemann analysed the gsequencer failure


[07:42] <ricotz> hello launchpad :), is there any progress in resolving the infrastructure problems? Currently it is not possible to perform a successfull arm* build of libreoffice bug-fix releases for jammy/kinetic - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.3.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.3.5~rc2-0ubuntu1
[14:03] <diddledani> is there any other record of snapcraft logs when building core22 not being saved in the LP record of the build attempt? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1981072
[14:03] <diddledani> also, is this being worked on?
[14:09] <cjwatson> diddledani: It's being worked on by snapcraft developers
[14:09] <diddledani> thanks
[14:11] <cjwatson> I've reassigned it over to them now


[00:00] <Franky_the_Pier> i dont know how to kill modprobe process...
[00:02] <DaveMorris> ps -ef | grep modprobe
[00:02] <DaveMorris> it'll return some numbers
[00:03] <DaveMorris> take the 1st number and use that in sudo kill -9 <number goes here>
[00:03] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:03] <DaveMorris> don't bother doing the last one since that process has already finshed (it was the grep one)
[00:04] <Franky_the_Pier> i killed it, and then recheck, and it is still there:
[00:04] <Franky_the_Pier> root 7238 1 0 18:56 ? 00:00:00 modprobe -k lirc_i2c
[00:05] <DaveMorris> try killing it again
[00:05] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:05] <Franky_the_Pier> hmm, it doesnt get killed!
[00:06] <DaveMorris> rebooting the machine will kill it ;)
[00:06] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, back in a couples mins then!
[00:06] <DaveMorris> I'll leave you with superm1 since I need to goto bed, got work in 7hrs
[00:06] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, thanks a lot for your help
[00:07] <DaveMorris> superm1: will be around for ages, prob be here when I wake up ;)
[00:07] <superm1> i'm here transiently
[00:07] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:07] <Franky_the_Pier> thx
[00:07] <Franky_the_Pier> now rebooting
[00:08] <Franky_the_Pier> (i am typing this from another computer)
[00:10] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, now rebooted,and modprobe is dead
[00:11] <Franky_the_Pier> should i retry the reconfig again now?
[00:12] <superm1> yeah
[00:13] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, now it did this:
[00:13] <Franky_the_Pier> Stopping remote daemons LIRC: fail
[00:13] <Franky_the_Pier> reloading kernel even manager... ok
[00:13] <Franky_the_Pier> loading LIRC modules...  it is hung up there now
[00:14] <superm1> okay one more reboot... and try to manually unload those modules before you start
[00:14] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:15] <Franky_the_Pier> 1 thing, this is mythbuntu, so mythtv starts all by itself...  is this a problem for troubleshooting
[00:15] <Franky_the_Pier> ?
[00:15] <superm1> well it shouldn't be..
[00:15] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:15] <superm1> but you know what, it wont hurt to boot to recovery mode
[00:15] <superm1> if you can
[00:15] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:15] <superm1> that's before these services start
[00:15] <superm1> and such
[00:17] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, now in recovery as root
[00:17] <superm1> just dpkg-reconfigure lirc
[00:17] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:18] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, here it is:
[00:18] <Franky_the_Pier> *loading LIRC modules
[00:19] <Franky_the_Pier> [ 113.658730] kobject_add failed for i2c ir driver with -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory.
[00:19] <Franky_the_Pier> then
[00:19] <Franky_the_Pier> *Starting remote control daemons:LIRC   fail
[00:19] <Franky_the_Pier> that's it
[00:21] <superm1> okay well then i say just modify that item DaveMorris was referring to automatically
[00:21] <superm1> if you dont know what event device you need
[00:21] <superm1> then do a cat /dev/input/eventX
[00:21] <superm1> and press buttons on the remote
[00:21] <superm1> when garbage is spit out, you found the right one
[00:21] <Franky_the_Pier> hehe
[00:21] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[00:21] <superm1> if nothing is spit out, then hit ctrl c and try another
[00:22] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, rebooting
[00:26] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, i have to go for an hour.  it was not event 0, but i got 4 more to go.  I'll be back later, if you are gone, well thanks a lot for the help, much appreciated.  If you are, I'll let you know how it goes.
[00:51] <franky_the_pierr> i am here for 2 mins, none of the "eventx" worked.  event2 output garbage without me pressing anything on the remote.  but pressing a button did nothing.  IRW still not working.
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> I will post the contect of my hardware.cong file, there is no driver...  maybe you see something funky in there too.  I'll be back in about 45 mins.
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> # /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> #
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> #Chosen Remote Control
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE="Hauppauge TV card"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE_MODULES="lirc_dev lirc_i2c"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE_DRIVER=""
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event5"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> REMOTE_LIRCD_ARGS=""
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> #Chosen IR Transmitter
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER="Hauppauge PVR-150 (pci) : Motorola Cable box"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER_MODULES="lirc_dev lirc_pvr150"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER_DRIVER=""
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER_DEVICE=""
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER_LIRCD_CONF="motorola/dctxxxx.conf"
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> TRANSMITTER_LIRCD_ARGS=""
[00:52] <franky_the_pierr> #Enable lircd
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> START_LIRCD="true"
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #Don't start lircmd even if there seems to be a good config file
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #START_LIRCMD="false"
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #Try to load appropriate kernel modules
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> LOAD_MODULES="true"
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> # Default configuration files for your hardware if any
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> LIRCMD_CONF=""
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #Forcing noninteractive reconfiguration
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #If lirc is to be reconfigured by an external application
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #that doesn't have a debconf frontend available, the noninteractive
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #frontend can be invoked and set to parse REMOTE and TRANSMITTER
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #It will then populate all other variables without any user input
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #If you would like to configure lirc via standard methods, be sure
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> #to leave this set to "false"
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> FORCE_NONINTERACTIVE_RECONFIGURATION="false"
[00:53] <franky_the_pierr> START_LIRCMD=""
[00:56] <superm1> oh noes
[00:56] <superm1> you are using pvr150 and i2c
[00:56] <superm1> that's going to complicate things
[00:56] <superm1> you need to use just one or the other
[00:56] <superm1> and also
[00:56] <superm1> !pastebin
[00:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:57] <superm1> so you want to make all your MODULES be lirc_dev and lirc_pvr150
[00:57] <superm1> franky_the_pierr, ^
[01:01] <grytpype> hello all... does anyone have a program for rebooting an SA4250 STB over Firewire, or has the operands needed to do so?
[01:18] <franky_the_pierr> superm1: i am back.  oh, i am sorry, i will use the pastebin in the future.    for pvr150 and i2c...  i dont know what i2c is, it was there right from install, i touched nothing.  I will change all the modules be lirc_dev and lirc_pvr150.  Do i do this inside the hardware.conf file?
[01:18] <superm1> yes
[01:18] <franky_the_pierr> ok
[01:19] <franky_the_pierr> ok, now what, do i redo the event0 to 5 again?
[01:19] <superm1> well make sure that only lirc_pvr150 is loaded
[01:19] <superm1> not lirc_i2c
[01:20] <superm1> if both are loaded, reboot
[01:20] <superm1> its the easiest to get around this
[01:20] <franky_the_pierr> ok, reboot i guess should accomplish this?
[01:20] <superm1> yah
[01:20] <franky_the_pierr> ok
[01:32] <franky_the_pierr> superm1: ha, no luck,  still none of the event0 to 5 worked :-(  but now there is a file "lircd" under /dev which was not there previously
[01:32] <superm1> franky_the_pierr, check dmesg
[01:33] <superm1> for lirc_pvr150 you might be needing some firmware
[01:33] <superm1> that we never automated
[01:34] <franky_the_pierr> wo, there is a very long output to this.  want me to put in pastebin?
[01:34] <superm1> yes pastebin
[01:34] <superm1> look for relevant to lirc stuff though
[01:34] <franky_the_pierr> ok
[01:34] <superm1> maybe dmesg  | grep lirc
[01:34] <franky_the_pierr> ok, 1 sec
[01:35] <franky_the_pierr> [   54.908244] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
[01:35] <franky_the_pierr> [   55.098241] lirc_pvr150: ivtv i2c driver #0: no devices found
[01:35] <superm1> that's it?
[01:36] <franky_the_pierr> yep
[01:36] <superm1> oh no devices found :)
[01:36] <superm1> that means your card might not be seated correctly
[01:36] <franky_the_pierr> oh?  but i can watch tv
[01:36] <superm1> or your card doesn't support blasting / receiving (which i'd doubt if you have a remote ;))
[01:36] <superm1> right but, if one or two of the pins on the pci bus aren't making contact
[01:36] <superm1> this can happen
[01:36] <franky_the_pierr> holey fuck, ok, i will reseat it
[01:37] <franky_the_pierr> will shut down now for it
[01:38] <Franky_the_Pier> i will put it in a different slot, will that cause problems?
[01:39] <superm1> nope
[01:39] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[01:46] <Franky_the_Pier> oh man, the grep is the same as before
[01:47] <Franky_the_Pier> i will attempt a reconfigure now
[01:49] <superm1> you sure the hw isn't bad?
[01:49] <Franky_the_Pier> stopping remote control daemon LIRC fail still
[01:49] <Franky_the_Pier> grep show the same, except now it shows it 3 times in a row
[01:49] <Franky_the_Pier> i cant be sure, but i just bought the card brand new
[01:49] <superm1> well if these modules are being loaded w/o functioning hw, i'd be surprised if everything was clean :)
[01:50] <Franky_the_Pier> i could put it in a windows mchine to test it :-(((
[01:51] <superm1> wont hurt at this point
[01:51] <Franky_the_Pier> can i show you my hardware.conf before trying that though?
[01:51] <Franky_the_Pier> in case i missed something
[01:55] <superm1> srue
[01:55] <Franky_the_Pier> 63126
[01:55] <superm1> which pastebinis that ?
[01:55] <superm1> full url?
[01:56] <Franky_the_Pier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63126
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest12> Why is it that when I try to play a video I get audio of the video, but the screen just stays at "loading .... {filename.whatever}" ?
[01:57] <superm1> depends what you external player is set to
[01:58] <superm1> and if you are using one
[01:58] <superm1> Franky_the_Pier, yeah that looks sane
[01:58] <Franky_the_Pier> shittybonga
[01:58] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, i guess last thing is prove the hardware is good then
[01:59] <MythbuntuGuest12> where do I check/change my player settings then?
[02:00] <KillerKiwi2005>  /join #ubuntu-doc
[02:00] <Franky_the_Pier> superm1: I really appreciate al your help.  I will put the card in winblows tomorrow to see if it's broken, with original hauppauge software, it should work.  If it is good... you will see me here again in a couple of days!  Cheers.
[02:01] <superm1> no prob.  cya Franky_the_Pier
[02:01] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest12, look in your media settings
[02:01] <KillerKiwi2005> .....
[02:02] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005, ?
[02:02] <KillerKiwi2005> sorry wrong window ;)
[02:03] <KillerKiwi2005> superm1: have you tried to get a remote working with any games yet?
[02:03] <superm1> i did ages ago
[02:03] <superm1> but decided it wasn't worth it
[02:03] <superm1> i use my wii for games and my pc for tv and mv tv for pc
[02:04] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah... i wrtoe a small script to catch button pushs etc... but the input seems to freeze.. its not responsive enough
[02:04] <superm1> ah i see
[02:04] <superm1> would you consider trying to resubmit your udev rules ideas back upstream to udev?
[02:04] <superm1> keescook, made an attempt at one point to get things changed
[02:04] <superm1> but they weren't receptive to his ideas
[02:05] <KillerKiwi2005> superm1: I could there is a bug makred as wishlist in launchpad
[02:05] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005, yeah that's how i recognized your name :)
[02:05] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[02:05] <KillerKiwi2005> it drove me crazy when I came up against it
[02:05] <superm1> well until upstream udev agrees to put something in place we can't just go dropping them in our package
[02:06] <superm1> that's why its wishlist against our package right now
[02:06] <keescook> the fixes, unfortunately, need to be plumbed through the v4l drivers
[02:06] <superm1> ahh that's what it was :)
[02:06] <superm1> hi keescook
[02:06] <keescook> heya superm1 :)
[02:06] <keescook> I wish I had some time for it -- drives me crazy too.  :)
[02:07] <KillerKiwi2005> what needs changing in v4l cant it just lock it down with udev for all video devices?
[02:07] <keescook> KillerKiwi2005: let me find the thread, one second
[02:07] <KillerKiwi2005> its just crazy the way it is at the moment..
[02:09] <keescook> KillerKiwi2005: here's the start: http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug-devel&m=118591152718294&w=2
[02:11] <keescook> KillerKiwi2005: ah, here's a better thread-view
[02:11] <keescook> http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/last=0/force_load=very/?page=7
[02:19] <KillerKiwi2005> ugg it gets painful
[02:23] <KillerKiwi2005> ok so its a problem in v4l that device drivers do not return enough information ?
[02:24] <KillerKiwi2005> keescook: ^
[02:24] <keescook> KillerKiwi2005: that's correct.  Kay's patch to v4l is probably the best starting point, but I hadn't had time to try it yet
[02:25] <KillerKiwi2005> ok so there might be a fix in a years time ;)
[02:26]  * KillerKiwi2005 wondars how no one noticed the problem for so long
[02:26] <keescook> it's not that no one noticed the problem -- people just write a udev rule, and ignore it.  :P
[02:27] <KillerKiwi2005> true
[02:27] <KillerKiwi2005> so what does mythbuntu do about things like this ... do you have a mythbuntu-hacks package or some thing ?
[02:28] <KillerKiwi2005> I mean while your waiting for the "proper" fix
[02:59] <a1fa_> i am loving this vnc thing
[02:59] <a1fa_> i shoud've done that long time ago
[02:59] <a1fa_> i just never run frontend inside of a window manager
[02:59] <a1fa_> =)
[03:00] <Munchkinguy> Does Mythbuntu support the Shuttle SD02XD?
[03:09] <Munchkinguy> SoulBlade, are you a mythbutu expert?
[03:17] <Munchkinguy> wasikevin, do you know anything about hardware support?
[03:18] <wasikevin> Munchkinguy, don't really understand your question.  Can yo tell me more about your question?
[03:19] <Munchkinguy> I'm wondering if Mythbuntu supports the Shuttle SD02XD
[03:20] <Munchkinguy> Specs: http://global.shuttle.com/servlets/download?file_id=3119
[03:24] <SoulBlade> god no
[03:24] <SoulBlade> im no expert that is
[03:24] <Munchkinguy> Hmmm
[03:27] <Munchkinguy> Any reccomendations for a MythBox, then?
[03:34] <franky_the_pierr> superm1: i am back.  I have checked HD with winblows, all is working perfectly... :-(  means something funky is happening with my setup i guess, it is a common card though...  can we check into it further?
[03:38] <SoulBlade> hmm
[03:38] <SoulBlade> well they like hauppauge tuners
[03:38] <SoulBlade> do a wikipedia on mythtv and then check out ivtv - maybe that card on the shuttle is supported
[03:48] <Munchkinguy> Alright. Thanks
[04:03] <SoulBlade> ah so close to working... got everything but sound now
[04:03] <SoulBlade> and mplayer can play /dev/video0 w/ sound
[04:03] <SoulBlade> so... close..
[04:45] <hti_pr1> hey guys im having trouble with mythweb and streaming asx
[04:46] <hti_pr1> I use totem to play the stream, and it freezes after authenticating
[06:37] <robbysmith> hello, anyone ever use a frontend to connect to mythbutu backend?
[06:38] <tgm4883_laptop> robbysmith, no, i just like to record content.  I never watch it
[06:39] <robbysmith> anyone use a frontend at all?
[06:39] <tgm4883_laptop> yea i can connect a frontend to a backend.  What seems to be the trouble
[06:39] <robbysmith> :)
[06:40] <robbysmith> it seems that the backend is not ready to accept a connection, keep getting failed' when doing the sql test
[06:40] <robbysmith> how can i verify that the backend is ready to accept connections?
[06:41] <robbysmith> maybee i am wrong to assume that there can be multiple frontends?
[06:41] <tgm4883_laptop> robbysmith, did you enable the mysql service on the backend?
[06:41] <tgm4883_laptop> in MCC
[06:42] <robbysmith> i used to be able to see a checkbox for it in services
[06:42] <robbysmith> just installed and updated 140 some packages and its not there any more, ill see if theres anything similar...
[06:42] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[06:43] <tgm4883_laptop> it should be an enable/disable drop box
[06:43] <tgm4883_laptop> is this hardy or gutsy?
[06:43] <robbysmith> theres now 3 databse services
[06:43] <robbysmith> they are all checked
[06:43] <robbysmith> running i assumed
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> what program are you looking in?
[06:44] <robbysmith> they are all "data storage system" sql services
[06:44] <robbysmith> mythbuntu 8.04beta backend amd64 (updated)
[06:44] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[06:45] <tgm4883_laptop> did you open mythbuntu-control-centre
[06:45] <tgm4883_laptop> are the frontend and backend on the same machine or different machines?
[06:45] <robbysmith> ok, knew i saw that somewhere,
[06:45] <robbysmith> the service is enabled
[06:46] <robbysmith> both plus i am trying to get an additional frontend to work
[06:46] <robbysmith> is this even possible?
[06:46] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[06:47] <tgm4883_laptop> so does the one on the same machine connect?
[06:47] <robbysmith> how can i make sure this service is enable on the interface?
[06:47] <tgm4883_laptop> not only is this possible, it is what it was designed to do
[06:48] <tgm4883_laptop> does the frontend on the same machine connect to the backend?
[06:48] <robbysmith> next to dropdown for service is says to make sure its enabled for the ethernet interface
[06:48] <robbysmith> yea works great, sometimes get an error "cant connect to backend" but reboot fixes
[06:48] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have more than one network interface card on this machine?
[06:49] <robbysmith> no, just 1 physical
[06:49] <robbysmith> and 'lo'
[06:49] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[06:49] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[06:49] <robbysmith> currently the front/back is set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:49] <robbysmith> for both adds
[06:50] <robbysmith> should 1 be 127?
[06:50] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[06:50] <tgm4883_laptop> go to the remote frontend machine, open terminal, then start the frontend
[06:51] <robbysmith> open a command prompt on the remote frontend?
[06:51] <robbysmith> should i worry that the mysql test fails?
[06:52] <robbysmith> and start anyway>?
[06:53] <robbysmith> thnks for this by the way
[06:53] <robbysmith> wife thanks you too!
[06:54] <robbysmith> i wouldnt have gotten this far without the alltruism that is this linux community
[06:54] <robbysmith> so right now im not sure what you want me to do,
[06:54] <robbysmith> i have the frontednd booted with a livecd
[06:54] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[07:01] <tgm4883_laptop> robbysmith, is the backend getting a static ip or a dynamic ip?
[07:01] <robbysmith> i just congigured for a static ip by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[07:02] <robbysmith> couldnt connect w/ dhcp either
[07:02] <robbysmith> static is goo, tested by unplugging cable and checkin ifconfig
[07:04] <robbysmith> gw is good, tested with google news
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> do this
[07:05] <tgm4883_laptop> on the remote frontend, open a terminal
[07:06] <robbysmith> ok brb
[07:07] <robbysmith> terminal open
[07:07] <tgm4883_laptop> sec i gotta look up the command
[07:08] <tgm4883_laptop> just out of curiousity, what are you puting in mythbuntu-control-center for username, password, and host when doing the test?
[07:09] <robbysmith> you mean what am i trying to login with on the remote frontend?
[07:09] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[07:09] <robbysmith> user=mythtv
[07:09] <robbysmith> pass= blank
[07:09] <robbysmith> dbase name= mythtvconverg
[07:10] <robbysmith> server = <IP_ADDRESS> (backend)
[07:10] <tgm4883_laptop> mythconverg you mean?
[07:10] <tgm4883_laptop> and is the password really blank?
[07:10] <robbysmith> yea
[07:10] <robbysmith> no theres nothing
[07:10] <robbysmith> pass =
[07:10] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[07:11] <tgm4883_laptop> ok we need to get something from the backend first
[07:11] <robbysmith> ok
[07:11] <tgm4883_laptop> on the backend, open up /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[07:11] <robbysmith> is this what you need...
[07:11] <robbysmith> DBUserName=mythtv
[07:11] <robbysmith> DBName=mythconverg
[07:11] <robbysmith> DBType=QMYSQL3
[07:11] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[07:12] <robbysmith> ok brb
[07:12] <tgm4883_laptop> we need the password
[07:12] <tgm4883_laptop> DBPassword="your password here"
[07:12] <robbysmith> can i add that line?
[07:12] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[07:12] <tgm4883_laptop> it should be in there
[07:13] <tgm4883_laptop> it might be at the bottom
[07:13] <robbysmith> those are the only ones not remared out and i dont see the line you said
[07:14] <robbysmith> also, should DBHostName=localhost?
[07:14] <tgm4883_laptop> that should be ok
[07:14] <robbysmith> shoul i add a pass?
[07:14] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm a little concerned you don't have DBPassword=
[07:14] <tgm4883_laptop> no don't add pass
[07:14] <robbysmith> ok
[07:15] <tgm4883_laptop> it wouldn't help here, and has to be added a different way
[07:15] <robbysmith> should i log into mysql?
[07:15] <tgm4883_laptop> can you search the file for Pass
[07:15] <tgm4883_laptop> just to be sure
[07:15] <robbysmith> ok...
[07:16] <robbysmith> wow im an idiot
[07:16] <robbysmith> it is at the bottom
[07:16] <robbysmith> ok i see it
[07:16] <robbysmith> ill try to login with this inf...
[07:16] <robbysmith> brb
[07:19] <robbysmith> :) :) :)
[07:19] <robbysmith> works!
[07:19] <robbysmith> video anyway
[07:19] <robbysmith> no sound watching tv?
[07:19] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[07:20] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like a hardware issue, drivers or something
[07:20] <tgm4883_laptop> what hardware?
[07:20] <robbysmith> so i need a diff tuner for each frontend?
[07:20] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[07:20] <robbysmith> i started the frontend on the backend and it switched to my hd tuner
[07:20] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have any sound?
[07:21] <robbysmith> ill restart front/back then retry remote front brb...
[07:23] <robbysmith> i think the sound prob is a driver issue on the remote frontend, no biggie i got spares that are compatible
[07:24] <robbysmith> but now i got reverse tuners,
[07:24] <robbysmith> started front/back and it went to my default (analog) tuner
[07:24] <robbysmith> went to remote and started it, and it went to my hd tuner
[07:25] <robbysmith> looks like hd homerun dont work over 802.1g very well either
[07:25] <robbysmith> slowmo
[07:25] <tgm4883_laptop> yea HD over wifi is too slow
[07:25] <robbysmith> nothing a cable cant fix
[07:26] <robbysmith> this is sweet
[07:26] <robbysmith> your the shit
[07:26] <robbysmith> i been racking my brain all weekend trying to get this going
[07:26] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[07:27] <robbysmith> thank you thank you thank you!
[07:27] <robbysmith> :) :) :)
[07:27] <robbysmith> i am mythically converged finally!
[07:27] <robbysmith> now i just got to get it to see my nas
[07:27] <robbysmith> but i think i can figure that out
[07:28] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[07:28] <robbysmith> do you have yours pointing to external storage?
[07:28] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[07:28] <tgm4883_laptop> depending on the NAS, you may have to either mount via NFS or CIFS
[07:28] <robbysmith> was it hard to get going?
[07:28] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[07:29] <robbysmith> i got freenas and 3 500s rin raid5
[07:29] <robbysmith> bout 900gb of storage
[07:29] <robbysmith> made it usb so i could eventually add 127 drives :)
[07:29] <robbysmith> ya right
[07:29] <robbysmith> 3s good for now though
[07:29] <robbysmith> what nas you use?
[07:30] <tgm4883_laptop> I actually have most my storage in a seperate fileserver
[07:30] <tgm4883_laptop> mounted via NFS
[07:30] <robbysmith> i have that option in freenas, do you recommend that over samba shares?
[07:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I prefer NFS to SMBFS, but I haven't used the newer CIFS
[07:32] <robbysmith> need to get a cifs share for my wrt54g maybee ill go that route
[07:32] <robbysmith> thanks again for your help man
[07:32] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[15:24] <driedsponge> hello
[16:10] <hti_pr1> anyone in here have experience capturing multiple hardware encoded streams simultaneously
[17:46] <baggar11> hti_pr1 I do
[17:47] <hti_pr1> any issues with it
[17:48] <hti_pr1> hd access times?  I assume resource usage is pretty low considering they are hardware encoders
[17:49] <baggar11> yeah, no problems, work great
[17:49] <hti_pr1> what kind of hard drives do you run and how many simultaneous streams have you been able to record
[17:50] <baggar11> Right now, I've only got a 40gb hd, I do mostly OTA HD recording, and I've only got 2 cards
[17:50] <baggar11> so the most I've recorded at once is 2 HD streams
[17:50] <baggar11> and no problems
[17:53] <hti_pr1> sata or pata
[17:59] <baggar11> pata
[18:00] <baggar11> you should be fine as long as you've got a decent processor
[19:00] <Koffa> selected 'dont record this specific showing' and it's recording... <3
[20:39] <TelnetManta> anyone in here using Hardy yet?
[20:39] <laga> yeah..
[21:02] <TelnetManta> oops, got side tracked
[21:03] <TelnetManta> have you seen high cpu useage by xorg?
[21:03] <TelnetManta> *usage
[21:03] <laga> dont think so..
[21:03] <laga> except when displayconfig-restore was going postal and crashing my second X session
[21:03] <TelnetManta> I noticed while vnc'd into the box
[21:04] <TelnetManta> cpu went to nearly 100%
[21:05] <directhex> used by which process?
[21:06] <TelnetManta> xorg
[21:07] <directhex> and when you're *not* using vnc?
[21:07] <TelnetManta> normal :-)
[21:07] <directhex> and using which WM?
[21:08] <TelnetManta> gnome
[21:09] <directhex> gnome is a DE, not a WM
[21:09] <TelnetManta> oh hmm
[21:09] <directhex> as standard on ubuntu, it will use metacity or compiz as its WM
[21:09] <TelnetManta> sry, compiz
[21:09] <directhex> so, an opengl-based window manager then
[21:10] <directhex> so your question is "has anyone else seen high CPU use by xorg when i ask it to draw full-screen opengl windows constantly using software rendering"
[21:10] <directhex> the answer is "duh"
[21:11] <TelnetManta> I just hadnt noticed it on my other boxes.... thought I'de ask.
[21:11] <TelnetManta> but I'll be checking that when I get home to confirm
[23:52] <c3rb3rus5> is anyone here aware that the settings fir the mceusb2 remote seem to be inaccurate in mythbuntu?
[23:52] <c3rb3rus5> maybe i'm just setting it wrong
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> c3rb3rus5, what do you mean?
[23:57] <Kargarian> hey Htiare youthere?
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> Kargarian, no
[23:59] <c3rb3rus5> tgm4883_laptop: some of hte buttons are not mapped right
[23:59] <c3rb3rus5> the record button is not mapped at all
[23:59] <c3rb3rus5> etc


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[00:03] <coilette> *system monitor, found it
[00:51] <logos> alguém do brasil?
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> !br | logos
[01:17] <coilette> 2 problems, a solution or help with either would be very much appreciated..
[01:17] <coilette> 1 my multi-card reader does not work
[01:18] <coilette> 2 my cell phone (moto-rokr) detecs its been connected to my pc via usb, but the pc doesnt detect it
[01:18] <nelfy> quit
[01:22] <brent> Anyone in here know how I can toggle between languages in ubuntu/
[01:22] <brent> can't seem to figure it ouit
[01:23] <Dragnslcr> brent- System Settings -> Regional & Language
[01:23] <coilette> Dragnslcr know anything about micro-sd card ot being detected?
[01:24] <Dragnslcr> Not a clue, sorry
[01:39] <logos> My ethernet controller eth1 is recognized in the "ifconfig" but is not connecting
[01:39] <logos> somebody know what could be?
[01:39] <room> chris
[01:42] <logos> My ethernet controller eth1 is recognized in the "ifconfig" but is not connecting, somebody  help me?
[02:03] <segfault2k> can i make a question about the install of kubuntu karmic a5?
[02:03] <jamesb_> I'm trying to install Java runtime.. I get an "unknown" error when install completes..
[02:03] <segfault2k> when i try to install kdm ask me for a user & pass
[02:27] <white_pelican> is there a standalone flash viewer available?
[02:31] <LuisJa> i wanna install a rpm bin than i got in the desktop, i already did cd, whats the command to install=
[02:32] <LuisJa> ?
[02:34] <room> hey
[02:34] <LuisJa> no one knows the command?
[02:35] <white_pelican> if it's an RPM, you need to run alien on it
[02:38] <LuisJa> what?
[02:40] <LuisJa> nvm.... i tracked the command myself
[02:42] <white_pelican> ok
[02:45] <jamesb_> I'm trying to install Java runtime.. I get an "unknown" error when install completes..
[02:45] <jamesb_> What else should I try?
[02:54] <white_pelican> is there someone here to answer my question?
[02:55] <cuznt> i guess it depends on the question eh?
[02:55]  * cuznt aint no ball of fire but i get a few things correct
[02:55] <white_pelican> is there a standalone flash viewer available?
[02:56] <cuznt> like for adobe?
[02:56] <cuznt> !FLASH
[02:56] <cuznt> sorry caps
[02:57] <cuznt> http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html
[03:04] <jamesb_> !JAVA
[03:08] <white_pelican> like for flash videos
[03:12] <jamesb_> This is getting crazy with Java.. lol
[03:30] <jamesb_> I ran some commands and did some installing.. but I still can't use sites with Java..
[03:31] <jamesb_> I run a test to check the version I am running in a browser window and it just locks up..
[03:43] <pair0doc> jamesb_, how old of hardware?
[04:01] <xtiger> hi
[04:01] <xtiger> I get a scary krandrtray message asking me to enter my password every time I log in
[04:01] <xtiger> anyone know how to get rid of it?
[04:02] <xtiger> just checked, and krandrtray is 755, so I should have permission to execute
[04:15] <Guest83869> hey guys, I just switched over from gnome to kde 4.3, and I've got to say I'm pretty impressed
[04:16] <Guest83869> eh, I should change my nick, h/o
[04:16] <Guest83869> testing
[04:16] <Guest83869> ok, apparently i've forgotten how to do that
[04:16] <Guest83869> anyhow, I'm trying to work out some kinks....overall I like kde
[04:17] <Guest83869> I can't seem to get kmail to show e-mails in threaded format
[04:17] <Guest83869> even when using te view>collapse all, for example
[04:18] <Guest83869> does anyone have any ideas?
[04:25] <kaddi> hi, my firefox recently decided, taht pdf-files should be opened with dolphin, when I execute it from the downloadlist.
[04:25] <kaddi> where can i set up which program opens the file from the downloadlist?
[04:27] <pair0doc> is it K>system settings>default applications?
[04:27] <kaddi> pair0doc: no, that one is set to okular as pdfreader
[04:28] <pair0doc> what version of FF?
[04:28] <kaddi> 3.5.2
[04:29] <brassmaster> can anyone tell me what steps i need to take in order to enable threaded conversations in kmail?
[04:29] <kaddi> I'm not even sure if this is a FF setting or not. I set okular to default pdfreader in system settings and firefox settings
[04:29] <pair0doc> I am still using 3.0.13 so I may not be the best to answer then.
[04:30] <pair0doc> have you restarted FF incase the setting was cached in mem?
[04:31] <kaddi> i've had that problem for a couple of weeks and the settings haven't changed recently
[04:32] <kaddi> I'm gonna check if the problem exists with ff 3.9
[04:32] <kaddi> 3.0
[04:32] <pair0doc> ok.
[04:34] <pair0doc> bbs
[04:34] <kaddi> it's working with 3.0 :/
[04:35] <kaddi> no it doesn't lol. It oppens okalar and dolphin :p
[04:56] <snarkster1> is there a kubuntu 9.04 for ppc?
[05:00] <jamesb_> !SHIRETOKO
[05:06] <jamesb_> Anyone know how to fix Java for Shiretoko??
[05:19] <jamesb_> !JAVA
[05:19] <jamesb_> !Multiverse
[05:37] <snarkster1> !ppc
[05:54] <Coyotes> !x64
[05:54] <Coyotes> heh
[06:20] <HollowPoint> hey guys, anyone heard anything about whats going on with the bluetooth stack in Karmic? Is it going to be improved?
[07:02] <navetz> guys i added a package to my repos but when I go to my package manager to update it, it says that it is blocked
[07:02] <navetz> Note: i am trying to update pidgin
[07:29] <shrey> Any one know how to have gtalk in kubuntu
[07:30] <shrey> pls tell me how to do it..
[07:30] <shrey> new in this..
[07:30] <shrey> dont know anything
[07:33] <mykro> apt-get install gtalk
[07:33] <danilo> Salve...
[07:34] <danilo> Hello
[08:02] <snarkster1> what is the deal with the network manager.
[08:02] <snarkster1> it just WILL NOT connect to any network
[08:02] <snarkster1> isnt that what its supposed to do is connect to networks?
[08:03] <snarkster1> that is what its there for right?
[08:03] <devilsadvocate> snarkster1, what network?
[08:09] <snarkster1> my network
[08:09] <snarkster1> cause it has wpa on it?? maybe thats the issue
[08:09] <snarkster1> Im doing a new install and wanted to get updates while installing.. but hell no stupid kde network manager wont connect
[08:10] <snarkster1> what a pain in the ass.. really.. wicd connects no problem. hell i can configure a machine with cli and it connects stupid kde network manager fails to connect..
[08:10] <snarkster1> sorry Im very frustrated
[08:12] <snarkster1> i have a guy here who just cant stand windows anymore, see and he knew I used linux.
[08:13] <snarkster1> now he says screw it if it wont connect to a network Id rather have windows.
[08:13] <snarkster1> we opnsource users are supposed to gently push people to linux, and open source, but when the crap doesnt work how are you supposed to do that?
[08:15] <snarkster1> im so glad I didnt blow away his machine. cause i dont have vista
[08:26] <Leobuntu> try with "nm-applet"
[08:26] <shrey> can u tell me how can i sign in my yahoo messenger and gtalk
[08:26] <shrey> pls reply
[08:26] <shrey> ???
[08:29] <Leobuntu> snarkster1 : try with nm-applet, an other network applet
[08:33] <shrey> can u tell me how can i sign in my yahoo messenger and gtalk
[08:33] <shrey> ???
[08:33] <shrey> pls any body tell
[08:33] <shrey> how can i sign in my yahoo messenger and gtalk
[10:15] <aar>  Hi, when I resume the system from sleep mode the screen looks dark (as if on battery mode), despite the fact that it's connected to the mains. The screen also goes darker when I start mplayer. Why is this happening? (Kuuntu 8.04 on a Dell Inspiron laptop)
[10:17] <the_madman> Hello everyone.
[10:17] <the_madman> I've got something of a major problem...
[10:17] <the_madman> Whenever I try to run, "sudo", I get: "sudo: must be setuid root"
[10:17] <the_madman> Thing is, I made sure I was in the admin group and double-checked /etc/sudoers with visudo.
[10:18] <rubyist> chmod o+s /usr/bin/sudo
[10:18] <the_madman> rubyist: Is this when I get glad that I set a root password?
[10:18] <rubyist> yeah, do it as root
[10:19] <the_madman> rubyist: Done, but I still get the same error.
[10:19] <rubyist> ls -al /usr/bin/sudo
[10:19] <the_madman> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-17 03:22 /usr/bin/sudo
[10:19] <rubyist> the +s wasn't set.
[10:19] <the_madman> Ah.
[10:20] <the_madman> ... It isn't letting me set it as root.
[10:20] <rubyist> just try, chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo
[10:21] <the_madman> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-17 03:22 /usr/bin/sudo
[10:21] <rubyist> ok now its set..
[10:21] <the_madman> Looks better, methinks.
[10:21] <rubyist> try sudo now
[10:21] <the_madman> Ah, it's working now.
[10:21] <the_madman> Thanks.
[10:21] <rubyist> ok
[10:21] <the_madman> I suppose you wouldn't know what changed it, since you weren't following my every move...
[10:22] <rubyist> nope, no idea.
[10:22] <the_madman> What exactly does the 's' bit do?
[10:22] <rubyist> you could have accidentely removed the s bit on all files, i don't knwo
[10:22] <rubyist> don't know*
[10:22] <rubyist> it runs the command with the permissions of the user/group
[10:22] <the_madman> Oh! I think I know now.
[10:22] <rubyist> so runs with the permission of root in this case
[10:23] <the_madman> I see.
[10:23] <the_madman> Thanks.
[10:23] <the_madman> I know what I did.
[10:23] <the_madman> Got some problems with Nepomuk not seeing /usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so
[10:23] <the_madman> Even though the file exists.
[10:24] <rubyist> is that where it looks?
[10:24] <the_madman> So I went and (quite oblivious to the +s bit) did chmod -R 755 /usr
[10:24] <the_madman> *facepalm
[10:25] <rubyist> ah :)
[10:25] <the_madman> Yeah, nepomukserver spits out, '(Soprano::PluginManager) found no soprano plugin at  "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so"'
[10:25] <the_madman> In a console.
[10:26] <rubyist> hm no clue, never used it before
[10:26] <the_madman> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-02-13 18:55 /usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so
[10:26] <the_madman> It's absolutely, definitely there. >.<'
[10:26] <the_madman> It's a shame as well... I quite liked nepomuk on Gentoo...
[10:27] <the_madman> Was one of the only things that actually worked, though >.<'
[10:27] <the_madman> Oh well. Problem solved. Thanks again. :)
[10:27] <rubyist> no worries
[10:47] <XtoTheZ> can i make usb printer accessible from other pcs in local network?
[10:55] <Coyotes> yes...
[10:55] <Coyotes> but I don't know how on Kubuntu :(
[10:56] <Coyotes> I've done it... but on Windows.  Anyone a Linux printing expert?
[10:58] <mat69> omg why does openjdk6-source depend on pulseaudio?!
[11:08] <mat69> hmm the dependencies are completly fucked, so much (artificially) depends on gnome and other things
[11:15] <ghostcube> mat69: if there are calls to the libs it brings in i wont say its fucked up
[11:17] <mat69> ghostcube: another one is fam, pulls a lot of gnome stuff
[11:17] <mat69> and no, fam depends in no way on anything gnome related in reality
[11:18] <hyper_ch> anyone here using kde 4.3.1 and OOo 3.1? I have a problem that when I want to save (or save as) and then in the dialog box, where I can tell name and location, when I right click on the directory structur the contex menu appears but there's not text  --> http://www.sjau.ch/ooobug.png
[11:18] <ghostcube> if there is anything inside depending on gnome functions sure
[11:18] <mat69> trying to install a dev-environment results in nearly as many gnome stuff as kde stuff ...
[11:18] <mat69> when they changed fam a lot
[11:18] <mat69> a stupid way
[11:18] <ghostcube> it wouldnt work on gnome if it wouldnt depend on some of its functions
[11:19] <mat69> it is no problem if gnome-apps pull it, as _they_ depend on it
[11:20] <mat69> but fam itself should not pull gnome-stuff
[11:36] <children> hi
[11:36] <children> testing
[11:36] <children> testing
[11:44] <Mamarok> mat69: FAM is obsolete, you shouldn't use it in KDE anyway
[11:44] <mat69> Mamarok: what made it obsolete? the cmake output suggests to use it
[11:44] <Mamarok> mat69: what are you trying to compile?
[11:45] <mat69> Mamarok: I do compile everything, but in that case I think it was kdelibs
[11:46] <Mamarok> mat69: right, then you should check on techbase,kde,org or ask in #kde, AFAIK it is not really needed anmore
[11:46] <mat69> well I have installed it now anyway
[11:47] <Mamarok> must be Kubuntu specific then, but most distributions don't need it anymore
[11:47] <mat69> Mamarok: the cmake output is not Kubuntu specific ;)
[11:47] <mat69> it is optional
[11:49] <Mamarok> mat69: also, AFAIK Kubuntu uses gamin
[11:49] <Mamarok> which is intened as a FAM replacement
[11:50] <mat69> Mamarok: gamin is not even installed by default
[11:50] <Mamarok> neither are
[11:50] <Mamarok> but if you need a file monitoring tool, gamin is the way to go
[11:51] <mat69> Mamarok: it appears that gamin is not supported by kde --> at least no cmake-msg about it
[11:52] <mat69> with kde I mean the src
[11:52] <Mamarok> mat69: well, then you should ask in #kde or #kde-devel, this goes way beyond the scope of this channel :)
[12:06] <philipp__> hi
[12:07] <philipp__> can someone help me please?
[12:11] <philipp__> hello?
[12:13] <the_madman> Sorry I'm back. Policykit authorization isn't working.
[12:13] <the_madman> Think it's related to the problem I had with sudo...
[12:14] <philipp__> can you help me please?
[12:15] <the_madman> philipp__: What's the problem?
[12:16] <philipp__> i can't clear my bin
[12:16] <the_madman> philipp__: The wastebin?
[12:16] <philipp__> or what's the english word for that? trash bin?
[12:16] <the_madman> Yes, that.
[12:16] <philipp__> i mean the deleted files
[12:17] <the_madman> Yes.
[12:17] <philipp__> sorry I'm german
[12:17] <philipp__> ah ok
[12:17] <the_madman> It's all right.
[12:17] <the_madman> Have you tried right click --> "Empty trash"?
[12:18] <philipp__> yes it don't work
[12:18] <philipp__> one moment i write the error
[12:18] <philipp__> /home/user/.local/share/Trash/info/msfd_1.trashinfo.trashinfo.trashinfo.trashinfo couldn't be read
[12:19] <philipp__> the last thing i tried to translate
[12:19] <the_madman> Give me a second.
[12:19] <philipp__> ok thx
[12:20] <the_madman> Try: chmod -755 /home/user/.local/share/Trash/
[12:20] <the_madman> Then try again.
[12:21] <philipp__> [Trash Info]
[12:21] <philipp__> Path=/home/philipp/.local/share/Trash/info/msfd.trashinfo.trashinfo.trashinfo.trashinfo
[12:21] <philipp__> DeletionDate=2009-09-07T13:19:22
[12:21] <philipp__> sry
[12:21] <philipp__> chmod: invalid option --7
[12:22] <philipp__> doesn't work
[12:23] <the_madman> Oops. Try: chmod 755 /home/user/.local/share/Trash/
[12:23] <the_madman> Sorry.
[12:23] <the_madman> My mistake.
[12:24] <philipp__> maybe i should try to delete the info directory
[12:25] <the_madman> Maybe.
[12:25] <the_madman> If you want, you can just do rm -fr /home/user/.local/share/Trash/*
[12:26] <philipp__> ok thx i delete the info direktory and made a new one. now the Empty trash option is unclickable
[12:26] <philipp__> ok now it works
[12:26] <philipp__> thx
[12:26] <the_madman> Cool.
[12:26] <the_madman> :)
[12:27] <philipp__> do you have an problem, too?
[12:27] <philipp__> a problem sry
[12:28] <the_madman> I have, but it's a bit hard.
[12:28] <philipp__> do you use ubuntu or kubuntu? what's the problem?
[12:29] <the_madman> I use Kubuntu. When I try to install/remove programs from Add and remove software, it shows, "You don't have the necessary privileges to perform this action."
[12:31] <philipp__> can you open this softwar per root?
[12:32] <the_madman> Yes, I can.
[12:32] <the_madman> But I shouldn't have to.
[12:33] <the_madman> It worked when I ran as user before.
[12:33] <philipp__> did it work on root?
[12:33] <the_madman> Yes.
[12:33] <the_madman> It's a problem with policykit.
[12:33] <philipp__> did you try chmod?
[12:36] <the_madman> I did.
[12:37] <the_madman> Sorry, I have to go now.
[12:37] <the_madman> I'll be back later.
[12:37] <the_madman> Thanks anyway.
[12:37] <the_madman> :)
[12:37] <philipp__> ok np
[13:16] <hugleo> hi
[13:16] <hugleo> How to disable all kde special effects to Kubuntu 8.10?
[13:22] <philipp__> on configurations
[13:23] <asm`> hi guys, i just installed kubuntu in a VM, first time user..
[13:23] <asm`> when i minimize konquerer it disappears but i can still get to it iwth alt+tab
[13:23] <asm`> any thoughts?
[13:24] <philipp__> sorry i don't understand the problem
[13:24] <asm`> well
[13:24] <asm`> it doenst go to taskbar.
[13:24] <asm`> it just.. disappearsl ike i said.
[13:25] <philipp__> only konquerer?
[13:26] <asm`> yeah
[13:27] <philipp__> or does any other program disappear, too?
[13:27] <philipp__> do you have windows?
[13:30] <rabidweezle> what's the name of that app that lets you get a mouse cursor in a console tty?
[13:31] <rabidweezle> isn't it like gm or something like that?
[13:31] <rabidweezle> it's like 2 or 3 letters
[13:33] <philipp__> i don't understand what you mean, you have normally an mouse cursor in a console
[13:42] <rabidweezle> philipp__: I was reffering to gpm
[13:42] <rabidweezle> for the tty's you need it to use a mouse
[13:43] <rabidweezle> and it seems to be broken in kubuntu since I installed it, went to use my mouse and it killed X on me XD
[13:43] <rabidweezle> no biggy, I will just use konsole for apps that require a mouse in terminal
[13:46] <rabidweezle> !bootsplash
[13:47] <philipp__> ah ok
[13:47] <rabidweezle> !usplash
[13:56] <BluesKaj> G'day
[14:26] <dirk__> moin moin
[14:26] <dirk__> jemand hier ?
[14:28] <dirk__> azhsrhsh
[14:28] <dirk__> ukzukui
[14:32] <dirk__> hallo ?
[14:35] <philipp_> hi
[14:35] <philipp_> was gibs?
[14:35] <dirk__> ola
[14:36] <philipp_> endlich mal ein deutscher im chatt
[14:36] <dirk__> jo
[14:36] <dirk__> hab da mal ne frage zum mounten
[14:36] <philipp_> jop frag
[14:37] <dirk__> automount(pid17709) on /cluster type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=17709,minproto=2,maxproto=4)
[14:37] <dirk__> was bedeuten die abkürzungen
[14:37] <dirk__> ?
[14:37] <philipp_> wie kommst denn da drauf?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !de | dirk__
[14:38] <dirk__> aha ok
[14:38] <philipp_> lol
[14:38] <BluesKaj> undt philipp_,
[14:38] <philipp_> was?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> !de
[14:39] <philipp_> does it annoy anyone?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> not if you speak english
[14:40] <philipp_> should i translate it?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !ask
[14:41] <philipp_> lol
[15:12] <lovre> hi all
[15:13] <lovre> need some help... my printer is not responding... it was working few days ago, i guess before some updates or something.. now its not responding, status is Stopped all the time.. can someone help me with this??
[15:35] <Mamarok> lovre: you should give more details about your Kubuntu version, KDE version and printer
[16:04] <chisel_> i'm a computer noob and i need to upgrade my graphics card....what sorta info should i take with me about my computer to make sure i buy a compatible one. especially one that ubuntu supports
[16:07] <mihai> hi all
[16:08] <mihai> somebody?
[16:08] <chisel_> howdy
[16:08] <mihai> how i can run .bat files??
[16:08] <mihai> how i can run .bat files??
[16:09] <chisel_> i don't know either, i usally google stuff like that
[16:10] <mihai> how i can install songbird?
[16:11] <chisel_> sudo apt-get install songbird
[16:11] <mihai> ook
[16:11] <mihai> thank youu
[16:11] <chisel_> it may not work
[16:11] <mihai> dont works
[16:12] <chisel_> it must be in a repository, you may have to look to see if it is in one, then enable that repo
[16:12] <Dragnslcr> !songbird | mihai
[16:12] <mihai> :-s
[16:12] <chisel_> if that don't work, see if its in a PPA. those are easy and usefull
[16:13] <chisel_> thatz neato
[16:13] <mihai> i have download it
[16:14] <mihai> the song bird aplication
[16:14] <chisel_> so can anyone tell me what sort of info i MUST know to buy a compatible graphic card for my macheen and OS?
[16:14] <mihai> http://getsongbird.com/
[16:14] <mihai> http://getsongbird.com/
[16:15] <mihai> itś this ok?
[16:16] <Dragnslcr> chisel_- you'll have to know what slot type your motherboard has (probably PCI-E or AGP)
[16:16] <chisel_> that should work mihai, but make sure you get the debian/linux/ubuntu version if there is the option
[16:16] <mihai> how i can se mi version?
[16:16] <chisel_> ok so how do i find that out Drags?
[16:17] <mihai> :(
[16:17] <chisel_> mihai, version of what?
[16:17] <Dragnslcr> chisel_- easiest way would be to read the docs for your motherboard. Second easiest would be to open the case and look at the motherboard
[16:18] <mihai> of my linux
[16:18] <chisel_> my case is open, can you tell me what to look for? or do you know if nvidia geforce is one or the other?
[16:19] <chisel_> uname -a
[16:19] <chisel_> mihai type: uname -a in terminal
[16:20] <chisel_> dragnslcr so its all about my mother board then?
[16:23] <mihai> who know how to do a private tribalwar server??
[16:24] <mihai> who know how to do a private tribalwar server??
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !patience
[16:47] <philipp_> !de
[16:49] <philipp_> did you install songbird | mihai
[16:49] <philipp_> i know a way to do this
[16:49] <herenbdy> are there any KDE-based gnutella clients in the repos?
[16:54] <Guest92075> does anyone here know if it's possible to associate plasma activites with virtual desktops
[16:54] <AFLunatic> I'm having HUGE issues installing kubuntu... Everytime I boot from live cd or install inside windows.. it takes about 10 minutes to 'boot' the install but never does, it just says { DRDY ERR } and UNC.. Any ideas?
[16:54] <Guest92075> I am struggling to understand the difference
[16:54] <BluesKaj> gnutella is gnome
[16:55] <BluesKaj> kde client will have a diff client
[16:55] <BluesKaj> name
[16:56] <rezonans19> Hello 2All
[16:58] <herenbdy> BluesKaj: I don't think the G stands for gnome in that case
[16:59] <BluesKaj> AFLunatic, are you using wubi to installinside windows ?
[16:59] <AFLunatic> I've tried both, Live CD and wubi
[16:59] <AFLunatic> same error both times
[16:59] <BluesKaj> herenbdy, you can still use gnutella on kde
[17:00] <herenbdy> yeah, gtk-gnutella, wanted to know if there was a native KDE program though
[17:02] <rezonans19> Is anybody has SiS672 3D driver for Kubuntu 9.04 x86_64 ?
[17:03] <Guest70740> is there any way to configure kopete to use irc chat
[17:05] <BluesKaj> not in it's latest version
[17:05] <rezonans19> 70740 Just add a your's IIN
[17:05] <BluesKaj> !pidgin
[17:06] <rezonans19> BluesKaj said good, use pidgin or aolaim or miranda
[17:06] <Guest70740> i was using pidgin before but saw kopete now  has facebook so thought i would give it a try
[17:08] <BluesKaj> kde4 doesn't support kopete irc for some reason
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Guest70185, IMO pidgin is easier to configure and use anyway
[17:09] <Guest70185> i'll go back to pidgin but that doesnt do video chat ... too bad there isn't a program that has all features
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Guest70185, and you could always use a dedicated irc client like konversation :)
[17:09] <BluesKaj> amsn ?
[17:09] <Guest70185> yea i'm using quassel now
[17:10] <BluesKaj> !amsn
[17:10] <BluesKaj> !info amsn
[17:11] <BluesKaj> kinda useless for irc tho :(
[17:11] <caseyd> does anyone in here use kismet? I installed it with KPackageKit.. but i can't get it to work
[17:15] <rezonans19> Fucking cat
[17:16] <BluesKaj> caseyd, it's a konsole app
[17:16] <caseyd> i'm having trouble finding what folder it's in so I  can run ./configure
[17:16] <BluesKaj> rezonans19, no need for that lkind of language here
[17:17] <caseyd> i'm still new to linux.. had it about a week now, but im picking it up =)
[17:17] <rezonans19> ok
[17:17] <BluesKaj> caseyd,  /usr/bin usually ,but just run it in the terminal with sudo
[17:20] <caseyd> yeah I did that, but it's not working like the readme says, it says when I run kismet it will prompt me to ad a capture interface
[17:21] <caseyd> maybe I should just find the gui version ;-)
[17:22] <BluesKaj> you have to give the client a server to find like an IP or some such
[17:26] <jeiworth> hi all,anyone have a goos suggestion for a program to convert video formats, e.g. quicktime to xvid and such?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> jeiworth, ffmpeg , but go to the ffmpeg site and compile it . The versions in the repos including medibuntu are stripped of some uses
[17:46] <jeiworth> BluesKaj: thanks for the tip, although i am on experimental repos, i don't know if those are stripped as well but with checkinstall shouldn't be a problem installing it from source as recent version
[17:52] <jorge__> Hola
[17:58] <kailash> help me ... i am using istanbul for desktop screencast ... but if i use it for about 10 minutes ...
[17:58] <kailash> it hangs up ........
[18:02] <caseyd> so if i have a program stuck open, how can I get to something like 'Task Manager' in windows to 'end task' it
[18:03] <kailash> help me ... i am using istanbul for desktop screencast ... but if i use it for about 10 minutes ...
[18:03] <kailash> it hangs up ........
[18:04] <caseyd> if something works for 10 minutes and then hangs up without you doing anything new, it is logical to assume that you have insufficient system resources for it to continue to run
 so if i have a program stuck open, how can I get to something like 'Task Manager' in windows to 'end task' it <-- CTRL+ESC
[18:23] <sczgilae> hi to all, im installing an USB DLINK network card in my Kubuntu 9.04 and im having some problems. when i type "lsusb" i see that the system knows the device bit when im configuring network on this adapter the system block sometimes. how can i install correctly the device?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> sczgilae, do you mean it connects for a while and then drops the connection for no apparent reason ?
[18:31] <calvin_> whats up
[18:35] <Admiral_Chicago> I've got a strange problem with X. under video card, it'll show "configured video card" and say similar things for Monitor etc
[18:35] <calvin_> the new kubuntu alpha 5 is awesome
[18:35] <Admiral_Chicago> and if I run dpkg -reconfigure it doesn't really run. it just hangs for a second and returns me to the terminal
[18:37] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, X is practically uneditable in jaunty , you can thank the kernel modules in the latest upgrades for that
[18:39] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: hmm, I am getting help in the Karmic channel. this was technically a Karmic issue but I came in here
[18:39] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: Is Hoary the same way?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ok , i se you there Admiral_Chicago :)
[18:40] <BluesKaj> I think this started in intrepid
[18:42] <Zeik> Could someone help me with the crash in Kubuntu 8.10 caused by changing resolutions? My VGA chipset is an Intel 950 GMA.
[18:48] <skyhunter> Hey, can someone help me to write a small shell script?
[18:49] <skyhunter> I want the shell script to edit a .cfg file and open a programm
[18:55] <sebastian_> hey guys
[18:55] <BluesKaj> skyhunter, look in the linux application forums you are trying to open for scripting advice ...I found  scipting answers in the forums for various apps
[18:56] <sebastian_> im running ubuntu right now but i installed kde but the network manager dont work so i dont have internet when i use it, is there something i need to install?
[18:56] <skyhunter> okay thanks
[18:57] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, what kind of internet connection ?
[18:57] <sebastian_> wireless usb
[18:58] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, try wicd
[18:59] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[18:59] <Zeik> Does UXA run better than EXA?
[19:00] <sebastian_> thank you :D
[19:08] <XtoTheZ> what to do if u get "This print share is not accessible." with network printer connected over usb
[19:20] <sebastian_> hey guys i installed wicd manager but i still cant connect to the internet, and when i installed it the standard network manager for gnome go uninstalled so now i got no way to connect, any idea on how to get it back?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, did you configure wicd in prefernces?
[19:25] <sebastian_> didnt find anything to configure everything seemed to be correct
[19:26] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, do you use wep or wpa encryption ?
[19:26] <sebastian_> wpa
[19:26] <sebastian_> ya i input the password and choosed wpa1/2 but not the wicd settings
[19:27] <BluesKaj> did you check the prefernces tab on the wicd gui for drivers and external
[19:28] <BluesKaj> advanced tab
[19:28] <sebastian_> everything is on auto in external
[19:29] <sebastian_> and on general i got wext on for driver i tried most of them but they dont even try to connect
[19:29] <BluesKaj> which driver, wext ?
[19:29] <sebastian_> yep wext
[19:30] <BluesKaj> you have to click on the connect button, some ppl don't realize that
[19:30] <sebastian_> ya i did that hehe
[19:30] <sebastian_> i tries to connect but it fails
[19:30] <sebastian_> validating authentication and then it fails
[19:31] <BluesKaj> do you still have an ethernet connected ?
[19:31] <sebastian_> no i only have the wireless usb connected
[19:31] <BluesKaj> did you type in the password you chose for the router etc
[19:32] <sebastian_> yep and took wpa 1/2
[19:32] <sebastian_> and im sure the password is right
[19:33] <BluesKaj> in the key textbox, in properties...just trying to cover all the bases here
[19:34] <Zeik> How would i go about checking which VGA driver i am using?
[19:34] <sebastian_> Blueskaj type in ip adress and static dns?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> sebastian_,, i haven't , I went with auto settings on the router
[19:36] <sebastian_> Blueskaj is there anyway to turn back the clock?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> Zeik, lspci | grep -i vga
[19:37] <Zeik> Thank you.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> sebastion reinstall network manager ?
[19:38] <Zeik> What command would i use to update my VGA driver?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> sebastian_
[19:38] <Zeik> I am using the default one that had composition problems.
[19:38] <sebastian_> Blueskaj i dont have an internet connection hehe
[19:39] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, how many networks csn wicd see /
[19:39] <BluesKaj> can
[19:39] <sebastian_> Zeik go to hardwaredrivers i think
[19:39] <sebastian_> Blueskaj 3 of them
[19:40] <BluesKaj>  and of course the the stongest signal is yours /
[19:40] <sebastian_> yep its at 100%
[19:41] <pteague> well, using sftp in kate seemed to be making a difference, but considering my ssh connection keeps getting stuck i think my problems were more an issue with the $#@ wireless here at the office... changed tcp keepalive settings & hopefully that will solve a number of problems
[19:43] <nasrullah> which software is good for dscanner on ukubuntu jaunty pls
[19:43] <crischan> hi, i have just installed a 9.10 alpha5 on my desktop machine running kde 4.3.1. now i want to know if amarok already supports iPods?
[19:44] <sebastian_> Blueskaj is there anyway to reinstall the network manager without the connection?
[19:44] <nasrullah> software for scanner kubntu jaunty pls
[19:44] <Dragnslcr> !info skanlite | nasrullah
[19:45] <nasrullah> thank you ubottu
[19:52] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, download it here ,http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/ , copy it to your kubuntu pc
[19:52] <sebastian_> thank you so much :)
[19:57] <nasrullah> which mobile phone is well compatible with kubuntu jaunty pls
[19:59] <crischan> has anyone had success using an ipod nano with amarok2?
[20:36] <DFarmer> Hi
[20:37] <DFarmer> I've just installed Kubuntu on a laptop with a 1280x800 screen. However, I cannto set it to that in the system settings, as the only options are for non-widescreen aspect ratio. How can I fix this? dpkg-reconfigure does nothing and I need someone to help me step by step
[20:41] <hellhound> i am not able to get my logitech quickcam stx to work in kopete, however it does work in cheese.  when I run kopete through the terminal I get the errors: http://pastebin.com/m3f7a9467
[20:43] <DFarmer> Anybody? I need a solution quickly..
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> It's pretty quiet in here today, so I doubt you'll get a quick answer
[20:45] <DFarmer> Please?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> depends on the Q
[20:47] <DFarmer> I've just installed Kubuntu on a laptop with a 1280x800 screen. However, I cannto set it to that in the system settings, as the only options are for non-widescreen aspect ratio. How can I fix this? dpkg-reconfigure does nothing and I need someone to help me step by step
[20:54] <abhi> can someone help me? i cant change my theme
[20:59] <hellhound> i am not able to get my logitech quickcam stx to work in kopete, however it does work in cheese.  when I run kopete through the terminal I get the errors: http://pastebin.com/m3f7a9467
[21:00] <abhi_> can someone help me? i cant change my theme
[21:06] <hellhound> i am not able to get my logitech quickcam stx to work in kopete, however it does work in cheese.  when I run kopete through the terminal I get the errors: http://pastebin.com/m3f7a9467
[21:10] <mihai> hii all
[21:10] <mihai> can somebody help mee????
[21:11] <BluesKaj> !ask
[21:16] <BluesKaj> splitsville again
[21:21] <snikker> hi, which is the best vga card for kubuntu?
[21:21] <jonathan__> hello!
[21:22] <BluesKaj> snikker, most newer nvidia cards are well supported
[21:23] <jonathan__> I would like to learn a bit of latex to manage my school-work at home better. I downloaded Kile and pasted an basic project i found in an official latex-tutorial. When i select "build", i get many errors i don't really understand. shouldn't a sample project work without any problems? Do i have to configure kile somehow? thanks in advance!
[21:23] <snikker> BluesKaj: is better ati or nvidia? because i've got an nvidia 6600gt, but sometime it's very slow with kde4...
[21:25] <BluesKaj> snikker, at the moment nvidia  has good support.
[21:25] <BluesKaj> ati , not so much
[21:25] <brassmaster> can anyone tell me how to update to the karmic alpha?
[21:26] <snikker> BluesKaj: did you mean with newer cards?
[21:26] <brassmaster> is it a question better asked at #ubuntu+1?
[21:27] <BluesKaj> 6600gt should work well
[21:27] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[21:28] <snikker> BluesKaj: well i don't know... with kde3.5 was very very fast... now with kde4 is slow...
[21:28] <brassmaster> BluesKaj: Yes, that would be good advice if what I wanted to do was to upgrade to a stable version of Kubuntu.
[21:30] <BluesKaj> brassmaster, well you can ask in ubuntu+1 , the only difference will be the name jaunty will be subbed with karmic
[21:31] <jado> hi, i've installed kgrubeditor with sudo apt-get install kgrubeditor but i can't launch it (command not found)
[21:32] <BluesKaj> brassmaster, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha5
[21:35] <Zeik> If you are having speed issues with composition in KDE 4 try turning off the DRI acceleration for desktop effects.
[21:37] <snikker> Zeik: how can i do that?
[21:38] <snikker> Zeik:  "load dri" is already commented in xorg.conf
[21:40] <Zeik> System settings menu> Desktop> Advanced tab at the top.
[21:40] <Zeik> Under that you can find an option for direct rendering.
[21:40] <Zeik> You might get a performance improvement and you might not.
[21:40] <Zeik> I got a major improvement when i did it.
[21:41] <Zeik> Are you using an Intel VGA chipset?
[21:41] <BluesKaj> snikker, some are advising to disable xorg.conf and let the kernel module and hal handle the video
[21:41] <BluesKaj> dunno if itwill work on your older nvidia card tho
[21:42] <snikker> Zeik: i've enable the direct rendering... i've got an nvidia card...
[21:43] <snikker> BluesKaj: i'll try also to disable xorg.conf...
[21:44] <BluesKaj> snikker , mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha
[21:44] <BluesKaj> oops wrong paste
[21:44] <Dragnslcr> You fail
[21:44] <BluesKaj> hehe
[21:44] <snikker> :)
[21:45] <BluesKaj>  damn
[21:45] <BluesKaj> snikker , mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:46] <snikker> BluesKaj:  ok
[21:46] <BluesKaj> this way you still have a backup if needed
[21:47] <snikker> BluesKaj: now i try and reboot...
[21:47] <BluesKaj> no need , justrelogin
[21:47] <snikker> but i don't need to reload the X server?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> reboot if you wish
[21:49] <snikker> ok
[21:52] <Zerg2000> Does anyone have KDE 4.3.x and experience slower log in? About 10 seconds more in splash screen when KDE logo is displayed.
[21:56] <jado> where can i find kgrubeditor in the kde system settings?
[22:04] <BluesKaj> !grub | jado
[22:04] <jado> BluesKaj: there is nothing about kgrubeditor in this page
[22:04] <jado> kgrubeditor is installed, i just don't know how to open it in the system settings. It is said on internet that it is a system settings module but i can't find it
[22:05] <BluesKaj> jado alt+f2 kgrubeditor
[22:06] <jado> BluesKaj: ouch ... i tried that before i came it was not working ;o
[22:06] <jado> hm i think i have to restart the computer
[22:06] <BluesKaj> Riddell, is there DOS attack going on ?
[22:07] <BluesKaj> jado whynot just edit grub yourself
[22:16] <jado> BluesKaj: nothing happens when i alt f2 kgrubeditor
[22:17] <BluesKaj> jada alt+f2
[22:17] <jado> BluesKaj: i know
[22:19] <BluesKaj> whynot just edit grub yourself , dunno which grub you have , legacy or grub2 , legacy has a file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:20] <jado> BluesKaj: yes i will but that's frustrating
[22:24] <jado> just a question: when i upgrade linux, i have old grub entries that stays, do i have to keep them, or are they totally useless?
[22:25] <BluesKaj> jado if you're just trying to get rid of old kernel listings you can do that by removing the linux-image with the corresponding numbers in your fav package manager
[22:25] <calvin_> hey guys quick question : how do i install CHROME 64 bit on my kubuntu?
[22:25] <gobnuts> Hi. Is there a way to make plasma-desktop the default shell instead of plasma-netbook on Kubuntu-netbook-remic karmic alpha5?
[22:26] <jado> BluesKaj: i delete linux-image, linux-generic, and linux-restricted-module of the old kernel ?
[22:26] <jado> linux-headers instead of linux-generic i mean
[22:32] <BluesKaj> jado I've removed both
[22:33] <BluesKaj> brb
[22:33] <asm`> hi - in kubuntu want applications/konquerer/etc to minimze as icons, how do i do this?
[22:33] <asm`> like i see in screenshots
[22:38] <asm`> The package list needs to be rebuilt.
[22:38] <asm`> This should have been done by the backend automatically
[22:38] <asm`> im getting this error in my software update area in kubuntu
[22:43] <asm`> kubuntu is a piece of shit
[22:43] <asm`> you kids hate windows but this gui is exactly windows
[22:43] <asm`> but a non-working version
[22:43] <calvin_> sudo apt-get doesnt work for me
[22:43] <asm`> i am trying it out cuz i realy am curous
[22:43] <asm`> and i like KDE
[22:43] <asm`> but jesus
[22:44] <asm`> ive had to reinstall 3-4 times
[22:44] <asm`> and still
[22:44] <FloodBotK2> asm`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <asm`> nothing works
[22:44] <asm`> The package list needs to be rebuilt.
[22:44] <asm`> This should have been done by the backend automatically
[22:44] <maco> please watch your languages
[22:44] <asm`> yes.. should've been.
[22:44] <maco> er language
[22:45] <maco> there should be a refresh button somewhere on it
[22:46] <calvin_> E: Malformed line 45 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[22:49] <rabidweezle> anyone know how to get firefox to make middle mouse click = scroll mode?
[22:49] <maco> calvin_: youve a typo in that file
[22:50] <calvin_> yeah just fixed it thanks
[22:52] <ghostcube> asm`: whats the prob you raving about
[22:52] <ghostcube> ^^
[23:00] <TD-Linux> hey, whoever decided that Konqueror will be default web browser, thank you :D
[23:08] <Warlock> anyone have an idea on how to get k3b to copy a protected dvd even tho I've added the restricted extras ???
[23:11] <TD-Linux> Warlock, I'm not sure that's within K3B's abilities
[23:11] <TD-Linux> how about K9Copy?
[23:11] <Warlock> Has been before
[23:11] <TD-Linux> do you have libdvdcss installed?
[23:11] <Warlock> Yes I do
[23:13] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:13] <Warlock> I installed that BluesKaj
[23:13] <Warlock> Still no go
[23:14] <TD-Linux> I don't think kubuntu-restricted-extras includes libdvdcss
[23:14] <Warlock> It does TD-Linux
[23:14] <BluesKaj> nope,but it's also a requirement for some media
[23:15] <BluesKaj> they used to be separate apps
[23:15] <Warlock> Now they are 1 app
[23:15] <Warlock> When you download the restricted extras it is all part of it
[23:16] <TD-Linux> I'm so very tempted to install karmic on my "production machine"
[23:16] <BluesKaj> well, i haven't installed anything media since edgy, upgrades only
[23:16] <TD-Linux> Warlock, err what?
[23:17] <TD-Linux> you can play dvds right?
[23:17] <Warlock> The libdvdcss is part of the restricted extras that I had downloaded
[23:17] <TD-Linux> how stable is karmic right now?
[23:17] <Warlock> Yes I can play then just fine without installing anything extra
[23:17] <TD-Linux> Warlock, OK, didn't know that was in ubuntu repositories now
[23:17] <TD-Linux> DVDs should not be able to play without libdvdcss...
[23:17] <Warlock> It is now...One of the upgrades
[23:17] <BluesKaj> TD-Linux, i'd be careful about that , karmic is having some graphics and sound issues depending on your hardware
[23:18] <TD-Linux> so you must have it somehow :) so I dunno what the issue is with k3b now
[23:18] <Warlock> I can play then right outta the box with k3b..No issues at all
[23:18] <TD-Linux> I need to burn alpha 5 to test
[23:18] <TD-Linux> BluesKaj, I'm currently on 173 nvidia drivers (ancient I know)
[23:19] <BluesKaj> TD-Linux, they work in karmic from all reports, it's the intel stuff that's still iffy
[23:19] <TD-Linux> what about HDA Intel sound?
[23:19] <TD-Linux> it worked fine in alpha 4 livecd though I couldn't adjust volume it seemed
[23:19] <Warlock> My neighbor just installed it with no issues with intel drivers
[23:19] <BluesKaj> it seems to ok , but pulseaudio is giving some ppl probs
[23:20] <Warlock> Ony issue with it that we can find is a dual boot vista machine will not play blue rays correctly..Everything else is fine
[23:20] <gorgonizer> I installed Karmic Alpha 4 on my home box, and all is fine, don't have Pulseaudio installed mind..
[23:21] <dorkface> Hi all.  Has anyone here been succesfull in setting up a connection to a wins server and getting wins name resolution using Kubuntu?
[23:22] <BluesKaj> gorgonizer, yeah I have a c-media soundcard that runs fine on the kernel module and alsa without PA installed
[23:23] <BluesKaj> <--- running karmic alpha 5 atm
[23:23] <Warlock> Thanks for the help people
[23:23] <gorgonizer> BluesKaj: A while ago you indicated that uninstalling PA was the best thing to do on KDE, and since I am yet to have an issue without it, I am yet to see the point of it, despite my Gnome-loving housemates..
[23:23] <BluesKaj> yup :)
[23:24] <dorkface> BluesKaj: are you getting the boot times that, I belive, canonical claimed?
[23:24] <BluesKaj> gorgonizer, of course that depends on your HW
[23:25] <BluesKaj> dorkface, dunno what are the claims ?
[23:26] <gorgonizer> BluesKaj: Nvidia HDA and a Geforce 7600 GS gfx card..
[23:26] <gorgonizer> all working fine, even runs the 185 Nvidia drivers.. :)
[23:27] <BluesKaj> the soundcard is what I meant , nvidia sound cards seem tobe fine
[23:30] <BluesKaj> dorkface, seems it takes upwards of 30secs for my boot up
[23:49] <DWonderly> was/is there a Netbook ver of KDE in either 9.04 or 8.10?
[23:49] <DWonderly> Or, will 9.10 be the first shot at it from kubuntu?