[00:01] <Reepicheep> deizel: do you notice any other apps not working on it?
[00:02] <iarp> if you didn't make any customizations to screen, you could try purging screen rather then remove, and then reinstalling
[00:03] <jetole> does anyone know a good linux load balancer?
[00:03] <Reepicheep> jetole: we use LVM
[00:03] <jetole> aside from LVM?
[00:03] <Reepicheep> well fine then.. :-p
[00:04] <jpds> jetole: ipvsadm ?
[00:04] <jetole> I am load balancing windows servers
[00:04] <jetole> thanks jpds
[00:04] <Reepicheep> ipvsadm is lvm
[00:04] <jetole> oh
[00:04] <deizel> Reepicheep: well its primarily a webserver, but all the webapps seem to work (apache2/php/mysql), and irsii, and quassel
[00:04] <jetole> wait
[00:04] <jpds> Reepicheep: I thought LVM was... The Linux Logical Volume Manager ?
[00:04] <jetole> isn't lvm the disk manager
[00:04] <jetole> right
[00:04] <jetole> lol
[00:05] <iarp> phew... i thought i was loosing my mind when you said lvm
[00:05] <jetole> LVS?
[00:05] <Reepicheep> jetole: sorry its actually lvs.. yeah
[00:05] <jetole> is that it?
[00:05] <Reepicheep> opps my bad
[00:05] <jetole> yeah, ok lol, I thought LVS too when you said LVM
[00:05] <jetole> then I thought about it and "... wait a sec. Thats not right"
[00:05] <Reepicheep> ipvsadm = LVS Linux Virtual Server
[00:06] <jetole> so what about a load balancer that isn't LVS?
[00:06] <Reepicheep> I didn't even notice it .. I just type some times and don't think
[00:06] <Reepicheep> well fine then ;-p
[00:06] <jetole> seriously, I'm not load balancing just linux boxen
[00:07] <jetole> brb, need to turn the AC cooler
[00:07] <deizl> okay, i purged and reinstalled.. but i can't choose a session because of this message "/usr/bin/select-screen-profile: 176: cannot create /dev/null: Perm"
[00:07] <deizl> session=profile
[00:08] <deizl> that last bit says Permission Denied
[00:08] <Reepicheep> deizl: try purging like iarp suggested.. make sure that you remove the ~/.screen files and directories also make sure that /etc/screenrc doesn't exist
[00:08] <jetole> deizl: no idea what you are trying to do but do you have a /dev/null with rwx for everyone
[00:08] <jetole> ?
[00:09] <deizl> jetole:<PHONE_NUMBER> crw-------  1 root   root    1,   3 Aug  5 19:06 null
[00:09] <Reepicheep> jetole: what are you trying to load balance?
[00:09] <jetole> deizl: thats wrong
[00:10] <deizl> wtf
[00:10] <jetole> sudo deizl: chmod 666 /dev/null
[00:10] <jetole> deizl: null needs to be read/write by everyone
[00:10] <jetole> !
[00:10] <jetole> Reepicheep: http/https
[00:10] <Reepicheep> jetole: you use apache?
[00:11] <Reepicheep> if so you could use the proxy_balancer
[00:11] <jetole> Reepicheep: and if a http server goes down?
[00:11] <jetole> will proxy_balancer route around it?
[00:11] <Reepicheep> yeah.. HA would have to be handled elsewhere
[00:11] <jetole> ah
[00:11] <jetole> crap
[00:11] <jetole> that sounded good
[00:12] <Reepicheep> jetole: I'm not sure how it handles failures .. now I curious
[00:12] <Reepicheep> btw.. we do do that very thing with LVS..
[00:12] <jetole> yeah I am looking it up now
[00:13] <jetole> WINDOWS!!!!!
[00:13] <deizl> yay it work, thanks guys
[00:13] <jetole> :P
[00:13] <jetole> deizl: np
[00:13] <jetole> now figure out why it was wrong in the first place
[00:13] <deizl> how would my /dev/null permissions have changed.. i swear i never touched that
[00:13] <jetole> that is a very important perm
[00:13] <jetole> something has
[00:13] <jetole> nothing is designed to
[00:13] <jetole> no software should have changed that without you clicking the wrong button
[00:14] <jetole> like I said, thats an important perm
[00:14] <Reepicheep> jetole: so the web server is a windows box?
[00:14] <deizl> i installed this today.. sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev libqt4-sql-psql
[00:14] <deizl> it had a lot of dependencies..
[00:14] <jetole> Reepicheep: some, it's actually a cluster of servers
[00:15] <jetole> deizl: no!
[00:15] <jetole> nothing, and I mean NOTHING does it by default
[00:15] <deizl> i hear you
[00:15] <jetole> no software even has that option
[00:15] <Reepicheep> jetole: well that shouldn't eliminate LVS if you need
[00:15] <jetole> something has to manually be done to change it
[00:16] <jetole> Reepicheep: I can use LVS to load balance a windows server?
[00:16] <jetole> I'm looking at haproxy now
[00:16] <jetole> http://haproxy.1wt.eu/
[00:16] <jetole> just something that came up in google
[00:16] <deizl> this is a bit over my head tbh.. it wasn't me, so either my server is compromised, or my hosts vps software does some stuff when i restart
[00:17] <jetole> what is VPS?
[00:17] <Reepicheep> jetole: .. you should be able to put a LVS directory in front of any web server .. regardless of what it is
[00:17] <Reepicheep> VPS = Virtual Private Server
[00:17] <jetole> hmmm, so I guess I should read up more on LVS
[00:17] <Reepicheep> acronym soup here
[00:18] <jetole> deizl: if your VPS did it then it's a bug
[00:18] <jetole> If you are compromised then it's an idiot
[00:18] <deizl> lol
[00:18] <jetole> seriously, that is just something that should never have it's permissions changed so everyone cannot read/write to it
[00:19] <jetole> all it is, is a character device that everything disappears into when you write to it
[00:19] <jetole> it's the void
[00:19] <jetole> but it has tonnes of legitimate uses like for screen right now which just failed when it could not use it
[00:19] <deizl> all my /dev/tty* files are crw------- also.. is that okay?
[00:19] <jetole> that should be fine, let me look at mine
[00:20] <jetole> my tty1-6 are like that
[00:20] <jetole> everything higher is rw for everyone
[00:21] <Reepicheep> jetole: one of those load balancers should work .. I know we use LVS with stuff like mon scripts to handle failures
[00:21] <jetole> but then again tty 1-6 are reserved on my system as they are running a getty and the higher ttys are used
[00:21] <jetole> Reepicheep: I think I need to do some reading on it
[00:21] <Reepicheep> and you can use heartbeat and mon to allow a HA director just in case your director dies..
[00:22] <Reepicheep> anyway.. good luck with that.. I gotta run
[00:22] <deizl> hm, i don't really know what tty is, but since my system is a virtual machine i will just leave it as is and keep a note for future
[00:22] <jetole> deizl: a tty is a virtual terminal
[00:22] <jetole> for example if you have linux running on your desktop then the GUI is on tty7
[00:23] <jetole> if you ctrl+alt+f1 then you switch to tty1
[00:23] <deizl> ah okay, yeah i've done that on a desktop before.. but not on this
[00:23] <jetole> the gui disappears and you are now at a console only terminal
[00:23] <jetole> on almost all linux systems tty1-6 is gui, tty7-whatever is open
[00:23] <jetole> x11 uses the first open one which is almost always 7
[00:24] <jetole> tty can also apply to a serial port
[00:24] <deizl> did you mean to type "tty1-6 is gui"?
[00:24] <jetole> no
[00:24] <deizl> k :)
[00:24] <jetole> ah shit
[00:24] <jetole> lol
[00:24] <jetole> tty1-6 is console
[00:24] <deizl> cool
[00:25] <jetole> ttyS0 is your first serial port or com 0 on windows
[00:26] <jetole> wow, the latest news on the home page for LVS is 363 days old
[00:26] <jetole> thats not very comforting
[00:27] <jetole> the introduction page was last updated on sept 19 2005
[00:27] <jetole> good to know they stay current
[00:28] <jetole> home page was last change 11/08/08
[00:40] <arrrghhh> zoopster, hey can you help me today?
[00:41] <arrrghhh> doesn't seem to be here.  well, i'm having an issue with the package ffado-mixer-qt4.  i guess my version of ffado-dbus-server is for karmic, and ffado-mixer-qt4 is for jaunty, and it's causing issues that are preventing me from upgrading.
[00:43] <cxo> arrrghhh, apt-get remove whatever that annoys you
[00:44] <arrrghhh> cxo, it won't...
[00:44] <arrrghhh> i've tried EVERYTHING.  i can't get rid of it.
[00:44] <arrrghhh> i use aptitude purge anyways.
[00:44] <cxo> use dpkg manually then
[00:44] <arrrghhh> that couldn't remove it either.
[00:44] <cxo> What does it say?
[00:44] <arrrghhh> tells me i should reinstall it before removing it.
[00:45] <cxo> --force
[00:45] <arrrghhh> the package is in a "bad state" it claims.
[00:45] <arrrghhh> hrm
[00:45] <arrrghhh> ok
[00:46] <arrrghhh> tells me the same thing.
[00:46] <cxo> --force-all
[00:46] <cxo> can you pastebin the whole saga
[00:46] <arrrghhh> hrm
[00:46] <arrrghhh> i don't think ffado-mixer-qt4 is installed.
[00:46] <cxo> You're just trying to upgrade to 9.10?
[00:47] <arrrghhh> i thought i did upgrade, but it went poorly evidently.
[00:47] <cxo> just remove all your ffado stuf, and then try complete the upgrade and then install it back
[00:47] <arrrghhh> i still have 500-some packages to upgrade.
[00:48] <arrrghhh> grrrr
[00:48] <arrrghhh> it won't let me purge the ffado-tools because of ffado-mixer-qt4
[00:48] <cxo> pastebin the whole thing, so i have some context
[00:49] <arrrghhh> oh sure, sure.
[00:49] <arrrghhh> 1 sec
[00:51] <arrrghhh> cxo, http://pastebin.com/d53391017
[00:51] <arrrghhh> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ffado-mixer-qt4: ffado-mixer-qt4 depends on ffado-dbus-server (= 2.0~rc1-0ubuntu2); however: Version of ffado-dbus-server on system is 2.0~rc2+svn1569-2ubuntu1.
[00:52] <arrrghhh> that's the important piece i do believe.
[00:53] <cxo> try --force-remove-reinstreq
[00:54] <arrrghhh> what's the whole command?  dpkg --remove?
[00:54] <cxo> with dpkg, i dont know if apt uses that
[00:55] <arrrghhh> sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq ffado-tools <CR> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove ffado-tools which isn't installed.
[00:55] <cxo> try give it a wild card after -tools
[00:55] <cxo> ffado-tools.*
[00:56] <arrrghhh> same error.
[00:56] <cxo> well remove  ffado-mixer-qt4 first
[00:58] <arrrghhh> cxo, http://pastebin.com/d3c12246b
[00:58] <cxo> wtf is xdg-desktop-icon
[00:58] <arrrghhh> i don't get what's going on with my system.  my user.rules and user6.rules for ufw keep "disappearing"
[00:59] <cxo> apt-get install xdg-tools
[00:59] <cxo> I think the control scripts for those ffado packages are not very robust
[01:00] <arrrghhh> xdg-utils?
[01:00] <cxo> yeah, it provides a tool that the remove script in ffado is looking for
[01:00] <arrrghhh> do you mean xdg-utils is what i'm asking.  there is no xdg-tools.
[01:01] <arrrghhh> i can't install it if i wanted to.
[01:02] <cxo> go to /bin
[01:02] <arrrghhh> k
[01:02] <cxo> and create an empty bash script called xdg-desktop-icon
[01:02] <cxo> chmod +x xdg-desktop-icon
[01:02] <cxo> #!/bin/bash
[01:03] <cxo> exit 0
[01:03] <arrrghhh> k
[01:03] <cxo> Basically i want to stop that remove script from crashing
[01:04] <arrrghhh> what do you want me to try now?
[01:04] <cxo> sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq ffado-mixer-qt4
[01:04] <arrrghhh> k
[01:06] <arrrghhh> holy crap i think it worked
[01:06] <arrrghhh> i'm updating now.
[01:08] <cxo> delete that empty script you made now
[01:08] <cxo> well make sure, its empty before you delete it
[01:08] <cxo> just in case the OS has already replaced it
[01:08] <arrrghhh> k
[01:08] <arrrghhh> yea, it's updating
[01:08] <arrrghhh> sheesh i hope this fixes my ufw issue.
[01:09] <cxo> What ufw issue were you having?
[01:10] <arrrghhh> my user.rules and user6.rules were disappearing, i have no clue why.
[01:10] <arrrghhh> so ufw couldn't start after a reboot, and this system is headless.
[01:10] <arrrghhh> so no ssh access :D
[01:11] <cxo> I know this is not a solution, but don't use ufw. Stick to straight iptables
[01:11] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:11] <arrrghhh> it's supposed to be uncomplicated :P
[01:12] <cxo> well lets see if it all works after the update
[01:12] <arrrghhh> certainly
[01:12] <arrrghhh> i do appreciate the help.  creative solution, to say in the least.
[01:13] <cxo> Its called the Hammer technique
[01:13] <arrrghhh> lmao
[01:13] <cxo> Just hit everything as hard as you can, and then hope it works
[01:14] <arrrghhh> well, so far it worked.
[01:14] <lwizardl> hi
[01:14] <arrrghhh> !hi | lwizardl
[01:20] <lwizardl> does this channel support help for all servers (web, data, file servers, etc) or just the web servers?
[01:20] <arrrghhh> lwizardl, it's general ubuntu-server help.
[01:21] <arrrghhh> like i have a basic apache server setup, and i could probably help with basic apache issues, but there's also a channel dedicated to apache i'm sure.
[01:21] <lwizardl> ok so basically if it runs the unbuntu distro and acts as anytype of server then its fair game
[01:21] <arrrghhh> there's an ubuntu-server specific download from the ubuntu site...
[01:22] <lwizardl> arrrghhh, yeah I know i use that disc often
[01:22] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[01:22] <arrrghhh> i've only used the disc once... but i must say i use the server every day!
[01:23] <arrrghhh> i guess i'm not sure what your issue is.  you still haven't asked any question.
[01:23] <lwizardl> I was just checking so I'm able to ask the question
[01:23] <arrrghhh> ask away.  if we can't help, we'll usually point you in the right direction ;)
[01:24] <lwizardl> I'm in the process of running my own retail store and was wondering if anyone here would know how to configure an ubuntu server to act as the main source of data for the POS system
[01:24] <cxo> heh
[01:24] <arrrghhh> i guess it depends on how you need to connect to the server...
[01:24] <lwizardl> basically like the main server in the backroom and the POS systems would be the clients
[01:24] <arrrghhh> cxo, btw, i seem to be good.  i can ssh after a reboot.  yay!
[01:25] <arrrghhh> lwizardl, well, you can use samba, nfs... i'm sure there's others.
[01:25] <arrrghhh> what are your needs as far as connecting the clients to the server?
[01:25] <lwizardl> arrrghhh, well like my webhost uses mysql and they do not allow direct access to outside connections to the mysql server. so I would have to use an API layer to do the connection
[01:26] <lwizardl> but thats as far as my knowledge goes so far
[01:26] <arrrghhh> hrm.  well you could run mysql on the server, no problem.  but i have no idea how to answer your question because i'm still fuzzy on how you want the pos clients to connect to the ubuntu server.
[01:26] <newbuntu> any ideas on why i have (drwxr-xr-x) permissions in my terminal, but (rwxr-xr-x) when I access the server via cyberDuck(sftp)
[01:27] <newbuntu> I need to be able to create sub-folders through sftp
[01:27] <arrrghhh> newbuntu, different user accessing the server.
[01:27] <iarp> sure you checked the right file/folder?
[01:28] <twb> newbuntu: d means directory
[01:28] <twb> newbuntu: it is not a permission
[01:29] <lwizardl> arrrghhh, all i know for sure is this much. the main source of data storage for the POS system would be the web site's mysql database. so I would need to take my POS system and connect it using the API Layer (which ever one I end up using) and would want it to update the listings on the MySQL server when ever sold and also track the transactions number in the database
[01:30] <arrrghhh>  yea those permissions look the same now that i looked closerly.
[01:30] <lwizardl> arrrghhh, hopefully that was what you was looking for
[01:30] <arrrghhh> lwizardl, hrm.  not really, but i'm no guru by any stretch of the word.
[01:31] <arrrghhh> like i said, you can certainly setup a mysql server on the ubuntu-server.  how you want to update it, well that's up to you.  most use php i believe.
[01:31] <lwizardl> arrrghhh, yeah me neither. I've been using Linuix for about 6 years now but i'm just starting in the messing with server stuff
[01:33] <newbuntu> "d" means allowed to create sub-directories
[01:34] <newbuntu> this is not the case?
[01:34] <newbuntu> all I know is I can through terminal, but when using sftp I can't
[01:34] <newbuntu> any Ideas?
[01:34] <arrrghhh> newbuntu, and this is the same user you're using?
[01:34] <newbuntu> yes
[01:34] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:35] <newbuntu> logged in through key pair
[01:35] <newbuntu> when I look at the permissions side by side that  is the only diff
[01:35] <newbuntu> 755
[01:35] <newbuntu> right?
[01:36] <cxo> 4=read, 2=write, 1=execute, 4+2+1=7, 4+1=5, 4+1=5
[01:37] <newbuntu> on my other server i log in as root (yes I know) keyPair, on this one I am just a user....can that be the diff
[01:37] <twb> newbuntu: d is not a permission
[01:37] <newbuntu> comparing two diff one's now
[01:37] <twb> newbuntu: it means "this is a directory".  It is not always listed.
[01:37] <newbuntu> that's what I'm told
[01:37] <newbuntu> ok
[01:38] <twb> In ls -l, d means dir, - means file, c and b mean character and block devices, l means symlink, etc.
[01:38] <twb> It's just an indicator of the file type
[01:38] <newbuntu> okay, I was wrong, I can't create folders either way
[01:38] <newbuntu> how do I get access to create folders, files etc?
[01:39] <newbuntu> 755 should work, right?
[01:39] <twb> The execute and write bits determine whether you can create and rename files in a directory.
[01:39] <iarp> are you in your own home folder
[01:39] <newbuntu> yes
[01:39] <newbuntu> well, my home server folder
[01:40] <newbuntu> maybe not
[01:40] <newbuntu> I'm trying to create a dir in: /var/www     /html
[01:40] <iarp> sudo it
[01:41] <newbuntu> okay, that works through terminal, but what about sftp
[01:41] <twb> newbuntu: your user probably does not have write access to /var/www/.
[01:41] <twb> newbuntu: if you are just creating personal files, try using ~/public_html.
[01:42] <newbuntu> guess it has to be root
[01:42] <newbuntu> thanks
[01:42] <twb> newbuntu: you may need to configure your httpd to allow users to have a ~/public_html.
[01:42] <twb> If you are installing software, such as a crummy PHP web app, you should use aptitude.  Do not install stuff from an upstream source by just dropping it in /var/www unless you have absolutely no other choice.
[01:50] <lwizardl> Anyone know how to do this ? I need to use an API layer to update the MySQL database on my Web Host everytime a transaction happens on my POS system
[01:54] <twb> By "POS" do you mean "Point of Sale" or "piece of shit"?
[01:56] <lwizardl> point of sale
[01:56] <lwizardl> cash register
[01:56] <snth> twb: The other day I saw a car license tag says "POSCAR" I was dying laughing at it.
[01:56] <snth> I didn't even know that he can legally do that.
[01:57] <lwizardl> snth, was it a ford ? lol j/k
[01:57] <iarp> and to add to that, why are you using a web host mysql? unless this pos system is hosted on a website
[01:57] <twb> ITYM Lada
[01:57] <snth> heeeyy .. ford can be good. sometimes :)
[01:58] <lwizardl> iarp, I was going to share the inventory between the site and store
[01:58] <snth> twb: It seems like you teach me a new acronym every night .. what's ITYM?
[01:58] <lwizardl> so if one sells in the store then the site doesn't list it also
[01:58] <twb> I Think You Mean
[01:58] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada
[02:13] <ralphmichael17> anyone here familiar with starting a dhcp server?
[02:17] <twb> Not that quickly
[02:28] <snth> haha .. http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html check it out when you have time :)
[02:29] <twb> I think I can find more profitable uses of my time.
[02:29] <snth> twb: Always good to hear :)
[02:30] <Sorell> agrees with twb
[02:34] <snth> Me too
[02:36] <Uso> hello
[02:36] <Uso> what servers are preinstalled in the 9.10 release?
[02:37] <twb> None.
[02:38] <twb> Well, I suppose if the "standard" task is left checked, you might get portmap and inetd and such.
[02:38] <Sorell> what about postfix/dovecot ?
[02:38] <Uso> whats different to the normal version then? other than that there comes no gui with it
[02:38] <Sorell> they where in the 9.04 right?
[02:38] <twb> Uso: basically when you do the install, near the end a checkbox should ask you "what services do you wanna run?"
[02:39] <twb> Sorell: I don't think they are installed by default.
[02:39] <Uso> will apached, phpd and mysqld be under the,?
[02:39] <twb> Sorell: postfix *might* be installed and left unconfigured by default.
[02:39] <twb> Uso: Ubuntu doesn't install services by default because it is easy to ask for them to be installed once you can boot, using aptitude.
[02:40] <twb> This is not like Microsoft SBS, where you get stuff like a fax server turned on by default even if you don't want it.
[02:41] <twb> I think there is a "LAMP" or "web server" option in the tasksel dialogue.
[02:41] <Uso> alright thanks
[03:28] <adamdv> I'm back :P
[03:29] <AdamDV> join ##googlewave
[03:29] <AdamDV> Oops
[03:42] <MTecknology> I've been using logwatch and every week I get this MASSIVE list of failed messages. I don't know how to fix these issues... http://paste.ubuntu.com/309104/
[03:49] <AdamDV> Anyone need a wave invite?
[03:49] <AdamDV> I got 8.
[03:49] <foxbuntu> AdamDV, I would take on
[03:49] <foxbuntu> one*
[03:49] <MTecknology> sure
[03:49] <AdamDV> PM me your email.
[03:49] <AdamDV> (s)
[03:50] <foxbuntu> AdamDV, done.
[03:51] <ScottK> MTecknology: What packages do you use that have logwatch profiles (I'm actually in the middle of adding one to a package and could use examples).
[03:51] <MTecknology> ScottK: I just went w/ defaults
[03:52] <ScottK> MTecknology: OK.  Some packages ship filtering rules to make the logs less verbose.
[03:53] <MTecknology> ScottK: oh... I should check that then....
[03:54] <MTecknology> ScottK: I just liked the pretty summary - I have it send weekly summaries; then I have a daily logcheck
[04:16] <MenZa> what generates /etc/motd in -server?
[04:18] <twb> MenZa: sysvinit scripts
[04:18] <twb> MenZa: /etc/init.d/bootlogs:   # Update motd
[05:20] <JJman6> how can i see what ports are being used on my machine!
[05:31] <KurtKraut> JJman6, netstat
[05:31] <JJman6> got it.  thx.   how can i cahnge the port mysql runs on now  ;-)
[05:31] <JJman6> i looked in my.conf and the port htat is set there isn't what netstat is showing mysqld is running on
[05:42] <masshuu> im trying to setup pptp clinet on my server, but i get a "Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: Permission denied
[05:42] <masshuu> " when i run pon
[05:43] <masshuu> along with
[05:43] <masshuu> /usr/sbin/pppd: Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support
[05:44] <twb> masshuu: are you using sudo?
[05:44] <masshuu> well i just read a forum post from 10-12-09 saying OpenVZ doesn't support pptp VPN
[05:45] <masshuu> but while i know its a no-no, im actually loged in as root :p
[05:46] <twb> Oh, VPN
[05:46] <twb> I mean *Oh, VZ
[05:47] <masshuu> lol
[05:47] <twb> My head was full of OpenVPN
[05:48] <twb> JJman6: pastebin the output of ss -l or netstat -nap
[05:59] <JJman6> twb, give me a minute i'm reconfiguring some other ports
[06:23] <Coosh> 3
[07:01] <jgoppert> can anyone tell me how to manage cdrom/ admin/ sudo groups with ldap
[08:34] <psteyn> anyone know how I can configure vsftp to chown all uploaded files to a certain user?  I set chown_uploads=YES and I've set chown_username=www-data , but this seems to only work for anonymously uploaded files.
[08:44] <error404notfound> what possoble tool could i use to attach a tar.gz file and email it using command line? I am on a server and need to email a backup file to client, but can't remember the name of the program i used lasttime
[08:45] <error404notfound> its mpack :D
[09:05] <mr_mojo> hi guys, does anyone have experience with pptpd here?
[09:11] <_ruben> pptp ... yuck ... that's a no for me, btw :)
[09:13] <mr_mojo> __ruben, what would you recommend instead?
[09:17] <_ruben> i currently use openvpn (ssl based) for roadwarriors and openswan (ipsec based) for site-to-site connections
[09:30] <atomic_1> i use openvpn for both cases
[09:30] <mr_mojo> i was originally planning on using that but i need something that is, unfortunately, workable without an extra client on winblows
[09:30] <atomic_1> it's a bit tricky to pull out multipoint with it
[09:30] <atomic_1> but its doable
[09:31] <mr_mojo> i really have no idea why ptppd isn't working. i can connect to the vpn and authenticate but it doesn't get network access
[09:43] <_ruben> with windows the options are pptp or l2tp-over-ipsec (openswan + xl2tpd for instance)
[09:43] <_ruben> unless the client is windows 7, which does native ipsec iirc
[10:07] <mr_mojo> ok. new plan to get this working. what i want to do is create a virtual network with ip addresses in the 192.168.0.x range, then use NAT to route these over one of the static IPs connected to my server
[10:07] <mr_mojo> instead of using actual internet routable IPs as my pptp client IPs
[10:07] <mr_mojo> is that a good plan?
[10:08] <mr_mojo> i think i'll need to do this anyway since I only have 5 routable IPs on my server, and I'll need more than 5 clients connected concurrently
[10:09] <_ruben> pptp and NAT aren't the best of friends afaik
[10:10] <mr_mojo> _ruben, i thought as much but openwrt does it this way
[10:10] <mr_mojo> as far as i can gather
[10:15] <fwest> can i run my own launchpad server internally?
[10:16] <maxb> That is really a question for #launchpad
[10:17] <fwest> oops
[10:19] <kwork> hello, with what do you guys monitor your boxes centrally, to see what version of packages are installed/what services are running
[10:20] <fwest> i use cacti, nagios and munin
[10:57] <kwork> fwest, with what you see kernel version
[10:58] <fwest> kwork, depends on the machine i am monitoring
[10:59] <kwork> some nagios plugin to get it via snmp ?
[10:59] <kwork> im currently using cacti/nagios aswell
[10:59] <kwork> will check out the munin
[10:59] <kwork> seems interesting
[11:00] <fwest> munin gets more info out of a box and its easy to write plugins to generate graphs
[11:00] <fwest> but i wouldn't use it to monitor snmp devices
[11:01] <fwest> i wonder if the -generic kernel will provide a more stable kvm server than -server
[11:01] <fwest> what would be nice are kernels for certain hardware, amd64,core2 etc
[11:02] <kwork> you can build it yourself if you really want
[11:02] <fwest> i do, i am getting lazy these days
[11:02]  * soren lunches
[11:09] <nijaba> soren: hello.  Do you think that bug 450044 would qualify for a SRU?
[11:09] <Jeeves_> soren: You the kvm guru, right? :)
[11:09] <Jeeves_> root@kms2:/opt# ifconfig eth2 mtu 9000
[11:09] <Jeeves_> SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument
[11:10] <Jeeves_> eth2 is an virtio NIC
[11:10] <Jeeves_> Can I conclude that this patch [1] is not included in the ubuntu build of kvm?
[11:10] <Jeeves_> [1]: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/11/26/4239974
[11:31] <incorrect> ok so i changed to kvm server to use the -generic kernel rather than the -server kernel, seems to be stable hosting my 8.04 vm now
[11:31] <incorrect> at least it hasn't vaporised yet
[11:33] <mrchrisadams> hi guys, I notice that the new ubuntu releases have a really tricked out screen setup now
[11:33] <mrchrisadams> as in screen, the session manager
[11:33] <mrchrisadams> how would I pull that down without updating an entire server?
[11:34] <incorrect> you want a fancy boot screen on a server?
[11:34] <incorrect> you can always back port it i guess
[11:34] <mrchrisadams> no
[11:34] <mrchrisadams> I've never got round to writing a good .screenrc file
[11:34] <incorrect> oh sorry screen command
[11:34] <incorrect> just backport it
[11:35] <mrchrisadams> so i figured it's worth learning the default one, as the ppl working on it have probably thought about it longer than I
[11:35] <mrchrisadams> incorrect: at the risk of revealing my noobishness - how would I do that?
[11:35] <incorrect> if i want something i create a chroot of the target OS, change its sources to use the version i want to backport from,
[11:36] <mrchrisadams> I'm running ubuntu server 8.10
[11:36] <incorrect> apt-get source the package, apt-get depends (i forget the exact command)
[11:36] <incorrect> imho i would upgrade it will be easier
[11:36] <incorrect> rather than learning how to backport
[11:37] <mrchrisadams> incorrect: that does make sense
[11:37] <mrchrisadams> ill get by without screen for now
[11:38] <incorrect> backporting can be hard if the target version doesn't have the right supporting libs
[11:39] <incorrect> screen might be easy, however 1 year of libs might be tough to alter the package if you haven't done it before
[11:40] <mr_mojo> mrchrisadams, there is a ppa
[11:40] <mr_mojo> https://launchpad.net/~byobu/+archive/ppa
[11:41] <mr_mojo> add the apt line from that to your apt sources.list and it should update to the latest versions
[11:41] <mr_mojo> including all libs
[11:41] <mrchrisadams> mr_mojo: I'm sorry I'm not sure I follow
[11:41] <mrchrisadams> that adds the sources for the latest versions of screen?
[11:43] <mr_mojo> yes
[11:43] <mr_mojo> basically
[11:43] <mr_mojo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:43] <mr_mojo> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main into your sources.list and then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[11:47] <incorrect> ah someone has done the hardware for you mrchrisadams
[11:47] <mrchrisadams> oh, sweet on stick
[11:48] <incorrect> always take care when using a PPA, they can break things
[11:48] <incorrect> PPA = personal package archive
[11:48] <mrchrisadams> incorrect: i think I'll run this on a vm before I try it on a server that's in use
[11:48] <mrchrisadams> but thanks
[11:48] <mrchrisadams> you guys rock!
[11:49] <incorrect> mrchrisadams, just remember be careful if there is an update
[11:49] <incorrect> yes i rock, i drank too much coffee
[11:49] <mr_mojo> a lot of the time with ppa's all they are doing is pulling down new stable versions so they have been somewhat tested. but yes be somewhat wary
[11:50] <incorrect> and remember the person can get bored doing builds for old releases
[11:51] <incorrect> i guess i can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 ?
[11:55] <mr_mojo> incorrect, correct :)
[11:56] <mr_mojo> i think it's 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 :(
[11:56] <incorrect> i thought as much
[12:04] <incorrect> hmm, there is some weird issue with kernel 2.6.31-14-server and kvm running an 8.04 vm
[12:39] <zul> soren: have you seen this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-November/029494.html
[13:13] <soren> zul: Yup.
[13:13] <zul> soren: what do you think of it?
[13:17] <soren> I haven't looked closely enough yet to tell.
[13:19] <soren> Unbelievable.
[13:19] <soren> I bought a new 1 TB external hard drive because my 320 GB one was filling up.
[13:20] <soren> It arrived this morning.
[13:20] <soren> I go to copy the contents of the old disk onto the new one.. And the old one started failing overnight.
[13:22] <pmatulis> soren: damn
[13:32] <soren> pmatulis: Damn, indeed.
[13:33] <soren> pmatulis: I didn't have anything on there that couldn't be replaced, but it's going to take a while to recreate my debmirror, for instance.
[13:35] <Jeeves_> soren: Did you see my question about virtio-net and mtu changes?
[13:47] <soren> Jeeves_: Sorry, must have missed it.
[13:47] <soren> Jeeves_: When?
[13:47] <soren> Jeeves_: I've been switching my IRC setup around a bit, so tiny bits may have gotten lost along the way.
[13:47] <Jeeves_> np
[13:48] <Jeeves_> 12:09 < Jeeves_> root@kms2:/opt# ifconfig eth2 mtu 9000
[13:48] <Jeeves_> 12:09 < Jeeves_> SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument
[13:48] <Jeeves_> 12:10 < Jeeves_> eth2 is an virtio NIC
[13:48] <Jeeves_> 12:10 < Jeeves_> Can I conclude that this patch [1] is not included in the ubuntu build of kvm?
[13:48] <Jeeves_> 12:10 < Jeeves_> [1]: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/11/26/4239974
[13:50] <soren> Jeeves_: No idea. I can check.
[13:50] <Jeeves_> I can also check it, if you hint me where to find it :)
[13:51] <ricdanger> hi there
[13:51] <__CACO> hi there, can anybody tell me is it recomended to install and use webmin on ubuntu 9.10 or not?
[13:51] <ricdanger> are cron.daily scripts guaranteed to run every day?
[13:51] <soren> Jeeves_: Nope, we do have that patch applied.
[13:51] <soren> Jeeves_: Which kernel are you running?
[13:51] <soren> __CACO: It's not.
[13:51] <Jeeves_> soren: root@kms2:~# uname -a
[13:51] <Jeeves_> Linux kms2 2.6.24-25-virtual #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 08:53:33 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:51] <Jeeves_> hardy
[13:51] <soren> Jeeves_: Oh. Then no.
[13:51] <Jeeves_> :)
[13:52] <Jeeves_> Only on the -server kernel?
[13:52] <__CACO> thanks, can i ask why?
[13:52] <soren> Jeeves_: Dude, the patch is from November 2008. Hardy came out in April 2008.
[13:52] <soren> :)
[13:52] <soren> Jeeves_: No.
[13:52] <soren> Jeeves_: Not in Hardy.  It's not in the archive.
[13:53] <Jeeves_> soren: The kernel was updated in the meantime, with point releases :)
[13:53] <soren> incorrect: Using libvirt?
[13:53] <incorrect> soren, yes
[13:54] <soren> incorrect: Anything useful in /var/log/libvirt/qemu/name_of_your_vm.log ?
[13:54] <soren> incorrect: Or in dmesg?
[13:54] <soren> incorrect: Is it amd64 or i386?
[13:54] <soren> incorrect: (The host, that is)
[13:54] <__CACO> soren: Yea, I noticed that :) but there is a deb package in webmine site, because that i asked
[13:54] <incorrect> amd64, and nothing useful anywhere
[13:54] <Jeeves_> incorrect:  14:54:29 up 146 days, 13:06,  1 user,  load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.01
[13:54] <Jeeves_> That's a vm, in libvirt
[13:54] <soren> __CACO: We cannot (and will not) support debs that random people put on their website.
[13:54] <incorrect> Jeeves_, i bet you aren't using 9.10
[13:55] <incorrect> 9.04 it was stable
[13:55] <soren> 9.10 is not quite 146 days old yet, so that seems a safe bet.
[13:55] <Jeeves_> incorrect: No, this vm is 8.04.2
[13:55] <Jeeves_> soren: :)
[13:55] <Jeeves_> I've got two issues left:
[13:55] <Jeeves_> * MIgration still doesn't work
[13:55] <incorrect> Jeeves_, why don't you try upgrading to 9.10 and see if you 8.04 vm's are stable
[13:56] <__CACO> Therefore what do you guys recomend for begginer like me. I have so much trouble getting things work in console :(
[13:56] <Jeeves_> * ubuntu-vm-builder doesn't seem to understand /dev/vda and grub
[13:56] <Jeeves_> incorrect: I just did, I'll let you know :)
[13:56] <soren> __CACO: ebox.
[13:56] <incorrect> it seems more stable on a generic kernel than a server kernel
[13:57] <soren> incorrect: Perhaps we have different ideas of what is "useful". Can you post dmesg and the libvirt log, please?
[13:57] <incorrect> soren, sure
[13:57] <Jeeves_> soren: Does that /dev/vda - grub - issue sound familliar to you?
[13:57] <zul> mathiaz: who is running the meeting?
[13:58] <mathiaz> zul: me
[13:58] <zul> coolio
[13:58] <soren> Jeeves_: Not off the top of my head. Can you be more specific?
[13:58] <zul> hopefully it will be pretty quick ;)
[13:58] <Jeeves_> When running ubuntu-vm-builder with a template to use virtio-disks, grub doesn't seem to add that disk to /boot/grub/devices.map, and thus doesn't install grub in the mbr
[13:58] <__CACO> soren:  wow, thanks for that i will check it out.
[13:58] <Jeeves_> The grub inside the builded vm, that is
[13:59] <soren> Jeeves_: No idea, really.
[13:59] <soren> Jeeves_: Sorry.
[13:59] <__CACO> Can I doo al the stuff like in webmin, like manage DNS,Postfix,apache...?
[13:59] <Jeeves_> Also, the fstab holds /dev/sda entries, and not /dev/vda
[13:59] <soren> __CACO: Probably not.
[13:59] <ricdanger> what is the current size of an ubuntu mirror?
[13:59] <soren> __CACO: You haven't said anything about what you need.
[13:59] <soren> ricdanger: Depends.
[13:59] <Jeeves_> __CACO: Webmin and ebox are quite differenty
[13:59] <soren> ricdanger: How many architectures and release series?
[13:59] <incorrect> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309506/
[14:00] <Jeeves_> __CACO: Best is to just try and understand the configfiles :)
[14:00] <ricdanger> x64 + x86, and releases > intrepid
[14:00] <incorrect> a few groans about an .iso that a different vm is using
[14:00] <soren> incorrect: there's only that one line in the libvirt log?
[14:00] <incorrect> soren, that line repeats for every time i've restarted it
[14:01] <soren> ricdanger: I have hardy, jaunty, karmic, and lucid, i386, amd64, and source packages in around 170 GB.
[14:01] <ricdanger> uhmmm
[14:01] <soren> ricdanger: No intrepid.
[14:01] <ricdanger> with universe and multiverse?
[14:01] <soren> ricdanger: ...but it'll probably be roughly the same (assuming hardy and intrepid are about the same size).
[14:02] <soren> ricdanger: main, restricted, universe, multiverse, and all of -updates, -proposed, and -security tossed in as well.
[14:02] <incorrect> sorry, i see it says virtio-net truncating packet
[14:02] <__CACO> Jeeves: yes i know that, but i am trying to get postfix to work for 2days now, with webmin i did it in two hours :)
[14:03] <incorrect> i bet its virtio
[14:03] <incorrect> i bet an e1000 nic will sort it out
[14:03] <soren> I bet it could be a number of things.
[14:05] <incorrect> well it doesn't help there is not error
[14:06] <incorrect> might be worth backporting the virtual kernel from 9.x
[14:07] <_ruben> 212GB for hardy - karmic here
[14:08] <incorrect> i knew i would have problems upgrading my kvm server
[14:10] <soren> incorrect: Err.. Which is it: Are there no errors, or does it complain about truncating packets?
[14:11] <Jeeves_> __CACO: First smart thing would be to ditch postfix and run exim, imho :)
[14:11] <incorrect> its complaining
[14:11] <lamont> Jeeves_: I'd have said "ditch webmin"...
[14:11] <Jeeves_> lamont: Sorry, that one seemed to obvious for me :)
[14:12] <adamdv> Webmin is as useless as windows without virtualmin.
[14:12] <incorrect> soren, that is why i thought changing it to use an e1000 driver rather than vritio
[14:13] <soren> incorrect: Seriously. I can't help you if you keep information from me.
[14:14] <soren> incorrect: If I ask for a log file (after explicitly saying that we may have different ideas of what is interesting there), it's not helpful if you only give me a fraction of the logfile.
[14:14] <incorrect> i didn't exactly mean to miss that message
[14:14] <incorrect> wasn't a long long file
[14:15] <soren> I'm just saying, that if I ask for a log file and you give me something else, at the very least say that you've only given me part of said logfile.
[14:17] <incorrect> i did communicate that after i noticed i hadn't pasted everything
[14:18] <incorrect> i resized the terminal and saw the line break as it wasn't clear the way i had the terminal
[14:20] <AdamDV> incorrect: Full screen emuator ftw.
[14:20] <incorrect> i use terminator, just i had a weird layout
[14:45] <soren> Whee! My previously completely dead hard drive has sprung to life again for a little bit.
[14:45] <AdamDV> Woo!
[14:46]  * soren hopes he can salvage everything from it in time before it decides to throw in the towel for good
[14:48] <zul> go hard drive go hard drive its your birthday
[14:53] <smoser> nijaba, in my opinion, euca-bundle-vol is destined to be buggy and or broken.  you simply cannot generically take a running filesystem and cleanly rebundle it.
[14:53] <smoser> of course, some here will say "its good enough'.
[14:53] <nijaba> smoser: well, loads of people have been using successfully on EC2, and would expect to do the same on UEC
[14:55] <incorrect> zimbra runs so hot all the time
[14:55] <AdamDV> zimbra is so very nice.
[14:56] <AdamDV> I have a multi server setup.
[14:56] <smoser> it makes large assumptions like "/var should not be copied *at all*" (apparently, from that bug)
[14:56] <AdamDV> Running on CentOS.
[14:57] <incorrect> AdamDV, i roll out zimbra every time i know someone who wants an email server and can't afford exchange
[14:57] <AdamDV> Yea.
[14:57] <AdamDV> I actually prefer ZImbra over exchange
[14:57] <incorrect> in fact i like it more than exchange apart from one thing
[14:57] <AdamDV> And, in most cases, over Postfix+Dovecot
[14:57] <AdamDV> Whats that?
[14:58] <AdamDV> I run a web design company, that provides web hosting.
[14:58] <AdamDV> And, we provide cPanel + Zimbra for mail.
[14:58] <AdamDV> WIth custom mx records.
[14:58] <AdamDV> And round robin DNS.
[14:58] <AdamDV> 2 MTA's
[14:58] <AdamDV> 2 mailstores
[14:58] <AdamDV> 1 master ldap.
[14:58] <incorrect> exchange does one thing right, it allows you to associate an account with email addresses, so user abc can have email of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:58] <AdamDV> Very nice setup.
[14:58] <incorrect> zimbra your user name has to be your email address
[14:59] <AdamDV> I prefer it that way.
[14:59] <AdamDV> More porfessional, IMO.
[14:59] <incorrect> this sucks for ldap integration,  i had to create username aliases for each user
[14:59] <AdamDV> You know you could use virtualhosts per the domain, right?
[14:59] <incorrect> that is a massive security issues for webmail, i know i can attack your webmail this way
[14:59] <AdamDV> So that it detect which domain its being accessed from, and adds that, instead of using full emails?
[14:59] <incorrect> AdamDV, its the username to address that doesn't work
[15:00] <AdamDV> I see.
[15:00] <AdamDV> Yea, I know what you mean
[15:00] <incorrect> also the address book breaks as it only uses the account name
[15:00] <AdamDV> I would prefer to be able to use john.smith in the LDAP db instead of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:00] <incorrect> but can be worked around with aliases in your ldap server
[15:00] <lamont> AdamDV: does zimbra still stomp around in the internals of postfix?
[15:00] <AdamDV> Slightly.
[15:00] <incorrect> no no that isn't what i mean
[15:01] <incorrect> the ldap server is not zimbra's ldap server, i have an n-way replicating setup with openldap for systems and other web apps
[15:01] <AdamDV> Ohhhh.
[15:02] <AdamDV> I get what you mean.
[15:02] <AdamDV> So, you have to manually alias each user in zimbra.
[15:02] <AdamDV> I see.
[15:02] <AdamDV> Anyone know a good graphic designer?
[15:03] <incorrect> so jsmith has an alias of john,smith in the company wide ldap, and zimbra has a user of john.smith so the address book works
[15:04] <incorrect> well my 8.04 vm has not crashed out yet
[15:12]  * soren takes a break
[15:21] <quizme> for some reason i can't get passwordless login to work.  I think sshd is not configured correctly. can somebody look at my sshd config file?
[15:22] <AdamDV> quizme: Why would you want a passwordless login through ssh?
[15:22] <AdamDV> O.o
[15:22] <quizme> AdamDV Public Key Authentication ... it's convenient
[15:24] <PJiPhone> Something I want to configure for automated backups
[15:25] <AdamDV> quizme: Ah
[15:28] <Pici> quizme: You shouldn't need to modify anything in sshd for key based autoentication to work.
[15:28] <quizme> Pici: somebody else modified it
[15:29] <quizme> Pici: i'm trying to unmodify the modification that makes it not work  or at least that's what i think i'm doing.
[15:42] <aubre> Good morning
[16:05] <Jeeves_> soren: 2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   :  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed
[16:05] <Jeeves_> 2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   : Error 22: No such partition
[16:05] <Jeeves_> 2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   : grub> EOT
[16:05] <Jeeves_> That's why my vm's don't boot :)
[16:07] <soren> Jeeves_: How are you getting into this? You said something about virtio disks?
[16:07] <Jeeves_> soren: Yes, virtio and i386 arch
[16:08] <Jeeves_> i tried fixing it with my own templates, but that didn't help
[16:08] <Jeeves_> The strange thing is, it did work, sometime ... :)
[16:10] <soren> Jeeves_: Are you building these inside a VM?
[16:10] <Jeeves_> soren: No
[16:11] <soren> then I don't get it. I didn't think u-v-b knew anything at all about virtio.
[16:11] <Jeeves_> I'm building on a normal machine, on which the vm's should run. Storage is on /dev/disk/by-path/iscsi-url
[16:11] <Jeeves_> Well, the templates seem to be for dapper
[16:12] <soren> How do you figure that?
[16:12] <Jeeves_> ls /etc/vmbuilder/ubuntu/
[16:12] <Jeeves_> dapper_fstab.tmpl
[16:13] <Jeeves_> the templates created contain sda-notation, not vda
[16:13] <soren> I'm very confused now.
[16:13] <soren> Which version of ubuntu-vm-builder are you using?
[16:13] <soren> this all looks very non-hardy-like.
[16:14] <Jeeves_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309646/
[16:14] <Jeeves_> root@kvm3:/target# ubuntu-vm-builder --version
[16:14] <Jeeves_> 0.11.353
[16:15] <soren> ?!?
[16:15] <soren> You said hardy!
[16:15] <Jeeves_> No, I said the vm's will be running hardy, the host is running karmic
[16:16] <soren> I see.
[16:17] <soren> I'd love to chat about this tomorrow or later this evening. Right now, I have to run.
[16:17] <incorrect> ok my 8.04kvm has been running for 2 hours now i changed away from using virtio
[16:17] <Jeeves_> soren: okidoki :)
[16:17] <Jeeves_> I'll be online tonight and tomorrow, so :)
[16:18] <ward-> is there any good review of ubuntu cloud computing?
[16:19] <ward-> what exactly it does etc
[16:19] <ward-> can't seem to find much info on it yet
[16:33] <leonel> is there a qemu ppa with  kqemu module enabled ? I need to use qemu on a non VMX cpu
[17:03] <jabalsad> hi.. what can i type in the command line to check whether i'm running server or desktop?
[17:07] <smoser> jabalsad, its not really that easy of a question (at least i dont think).
[17:07] <jabalsad> :/
[17:07] <smoser> tasksel --list-tasks | grep server
[17:07] <smoser> that'll tell you if you have the 'server' task
[17:08] <flyback> say you downgraded your cpu from 686 arch type to 586 tyoe, is there a way to boot a rescue cd etc on the new box to then transfer I guess it's the root env to the local filesystem so you can apt-get a new kernel etc
[17:08] <smoser> tasksel --list-tasks | grep ubuntu-desktop
[17:08] <flyback> I gotta get ready for work so I will check back in a bit, I don't mean to be rude just can't be late
[17:08] <jabalsad> smoser, i see a bunch of servers one of which is called 'Edubuntu server'
[17:08] <smoser> will tell you if you have desktop task. but either could be installed onto either. its not a hard separation.
[17:08] <jabalsad> this is a clean install
[17:08] <jabalsad> done on a dedi in another country
[17:09]  * flyback switches to a nice embedded board in case anyone wants "wtf did you downgrade for"
[17:09] <smoser> acutally, i realize i was wrong about my advice anyway. the 'server' task isn't installed on my installed 'server' (which i did from media).
[17:09] <smoser> but the server does not have the 'ubuntu-desktop' task, where the laptop does
[17:09] <jabalsad> :/
[17:10] <jabalsad> i see the ubuntu desktop task
[17:10] <jabalsad> but maybe it was installed afterwards?
[17:10] <smoser> as i said, it could be.
[17:10] <jabalsad> damn
[17:11] <jabalsad> i found a thread on the forums, i'll look into that quick
[17:12] <jabalsad> 'lsb_release -a' and 'uname -a' .... but it doesnt really seem conclusive :D
[17:12] <jabalsad> if i find that i have desktop installed, should i rather request to install the server version?
[17:20] <tarnfeld> Hello
[17:20] <tarnfeld> Anyone here?
[17:35] <flyback> well I gotta run but thx anyways
[17:35] <flyback> :D
[17:39] <zul> mathiaz: have you done any blueprints for lucid yet? Im looking for a template to follow
[17:45] <mathiaz> zul: hm - not yet
[17:45] <mathiaz> zul: just use a name that starts with lucid-server
[17:45] <mathiaz> zul: just use a name that starts with lucid-server-
[17:46] <mathiaz> zul: and we'll take it from there (we can always rename them if necessary)
[17:46] <zul> sounds good to me
[17:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: were you able to retrieve the GPG public key of my eucalyptus PPA?
[17:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: i didn't try
[17:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: would you like me to?
[18:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: well - jsalisbury is trying to add the public key and it doesn't work
[18:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: apparently the key server is down
[18:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: oh
[18:00] <cemc> I had some problems with it myself
[18:00] <cemc> the last couple of days/week
[18:00] <cemc> it takes a loong time to get a key
[18:00] <cemc> it times out even a couple of times
[18:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'll try
[18:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: jsalisbury: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309764/
[18:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: worked fine for me
[18:03] <everythingdaniel> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server. I get a screen like http://pastebin.com/m54e9003a  and no matter what I select, the box goes away, and else nothing happens. Its not frozen up, I can do a ctl-alt-del  and the kernel shuts down properly
[18:05] <everythingdaniel> That box coes up right after the loader bar that scrolls by saying its setting up partitioner
[18:06] <jsalisbury> kirkland: mathiaz:  I'll try again.
[18:06] <kirkland> jsalisbury: what are you using to import the key?
[18:07] <kirkland>  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 094D0420
[18:07]  * kirkland thinks launchpad should print that on the ppa page itself, for easy copy-n-paste
[18:08] <jsalisbury> kirkland: http://pastebin.com/dcb391ac
[18:08] <jsalisbury> kirkland: looks like the server is down, but I can ping it.
[18:08] <kirkland> jsalisbury: proxy problem?  firewall problem?
[18:09] <cemc> jsalisbury: try it a couple of times, it will get it eventually
[18:09] <jsalisbury> kirkland:  no proxy, maybe a switch is blocking.  Does this use a special port?
[18:09] <kirkland> jsalisbury: i'm not sure
[18:09] <jsalisbury> cemc:  Ok, maybe I'll write a script and have it try in a loop ;-)
[18:10] <cemc> jsalisbury: I'm not kidding, it usually took me 5-10 minutes and 3-4 tries to get it
[18:10] <jsalisbury> cemc:  Okay, thanks.  I'll give if several tries.
[18:10] <cemc> and I've installed 3 different ubuntu guests, and had 2 more systems I wanted to install from a ppa and on every system it took forever
[18:11] <mathiaz> sommer: hey - if there is a bug in the server guide, where should I assign it?
[18:11] <cemc> I wanted to report it, wasn't sure whereto exactly
[18:11] <mathiaz> sommer: (the openldap section hasn't been updated to the new way slapd is setup in karmic - bug 463684)
[18:16] <everythingdaniel> A little extra bit of info, I am doing a minimal install
[18:20] <sommer> mathiaz: ya, I've been meaning to get to that.  ubuntu-docs should be the package
[18:21] <sommer> mathiaz: I was thinking of trying to push for an SRU, but will need to coordinate with the DocTeam for translations
[18:21] <adelie42> I am setting up a pxe server for a second network card. what do I need to specify in /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3d.conf to tell it which network card to listen on?
[18:21] <mathiaz> sommer: right - seems like a good candidate for a SRU
[18:22] <sommer> mathiaz: I'll try to get that done by the end of the week
[18:23] <sommer> or at least started :)
[18:45] <jsalisbury> kirkland: Did you happen to open a separate bug for the issue you had listed in commend #6 in Bug 455625 ?
[18:46] <jsalisbury> kirkland:  I just ran into the same issue immediately after upgrading to the PPA from mathiaz
[18:46] <mathiaz> jdstrand: right - this is another bug.
[18:46] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: ^^
[18:46] <pmatulis> where is mdadm (raid) information stored and how should it be backed up?
[18:46] <mathiaz> jdstrand: nevermind
[18:46] <kirkland> jsalisbury: i don't think i opened another bug
[18:47] <jsalisbury> kirkland:  Do you think I should, or just add another comment to 455625?
[18:47] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: what have you exactly seen?
[18:47] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: are the ip addresses still on the CC (via ip addr show)?
[18:47] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: or is just that euca-describe-instances doesn't show them?
[18:48] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  I did an apt-get upgrade eucalyptus -  however, my instance was still running.  Both the public and private IP addresses changed to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:48] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: right - this is probably bug 460089
[18:48] <kirkland> jsalisbury: mathiaz: i'm not sure my issue was a real one, as I still have another DHCP server on my network (rather than disabling it like Eucalyptus requires)
[18:48] <kirkland> jsalisbury: mathiaz: I strongly DISLIKE this requirement of UEC, and hope we find some way around this for Lucid
[18:48] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: could you check whether the CC still IP addresses configured?
[18:49] <kirkland> jsalisbury: mathiaz: this means that I sometimes have funky network problems that I chalk up to my dhcp/router
[18:49] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  using which command?  euca-describe-addresses?
[18:49] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: ip addr show on the CC
[18:49] <jsalisbury> mathiaz: one sec
[18:49] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: I'm trying to by pass eucalyptus heere
[18:50] <stlsaint> mathiaz: excuse me
[18:50] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: and see the routing and firewall configuration of the CC
[18:51] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  The ip addresses still look defined with ip addr show on the CC
[18:52] <jsalisbury> mathiaz: I can also still ping the public IP Address that was assigned to the instance.  It just isn't reported by eucalyptus.
[18:52] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: right
[18:52] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: what the firewall rules show on the CC?
[18:52] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: iptables -Nl -t nat
[18:53] <pipedream>
[18:53] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: iptables -nL -t nat actually
[18:53] <jsalisbury> mathiaz: Okay
[18:54] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: do you still see the firewall rules for the public instances?
[18:54] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: if so - you've run into bug 460089
[18:54] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: which is addressed in the SRU
[18:54] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  no, I don't.
[18:55] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  one second and I can paste the output.
[18:55] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: so - *before* the upgrade: if you do an eucalyptus stop, firewall rules are removed, but not the public IPs?
[18:56] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: yes - could you paste the output of: ip addr show
[18:56] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: and iptables -nL -t nat
[18:57] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: on the CC
[18:57] <jsalisbury> mathiaz:  sure, just one sec.  it takes a little bit because I'm working on systems on different networks and my IRC is setup through a vnc session.
[18:58] <mathiaz> !paste | jsalisbury
[19:03] <jsalisbury> mathiaz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309832/
[19:04] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: <IP_ADDRESS> is the public IP of the running instance?
[19:05] <jsalisbury> mathiaz: yes
[19:05] <mathiaz> jsalisbury: ok - thanks
[19:05] <sbeattie> mathiaz|zul: sorry I missed your meeting; I reviewed the nut and ipsec-tools SRUs a couple of weeks ago. I'm unable to change the overall status on the merge or upload, so I'm not sure what the next step from here should be.
[19:06] <mathiaz> sbeattie: right - I think only the submitter can do that
[19:06] <mathiaz> sbeattie: have you set your own status to approve?
[19:06] <sbeattie> I haven't seen any new SRU merge reviews come way since then.
[19:06] <sbeattie> mathiaz: yes
[19:06] <sbeattie> https://code.launchpad.net/~sbeattie/+activereviews is the reviews I've looked at, the approves listed are all from me.
[19:07] <zul> sbeattie: its on my to do list to update those test cases
[19:07] <sbeattie> zul: okay, thanks, that is appreciated.
[19:08] <mathiaz> sbeattie: yeah - we need to tune the process a bit to make sure things are moving swiftly
[19:08] <mathiaz> sbeattie: overall it still makes sense to have you review the SRU+bzr branch at that point in the process?
[19:08] <sbeattie> mathiaz: yeah. I meant to raise the issue a couple of weeks ago, but some australian animal got in the way.
[19:09] <mathiaz> sbeattie: yeah - we should be more lucid from a now on
[19:09] <sbeattie> anyway, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something missing on my part that was holding things up.
[19:10] <zul> sbeattie: a kangaroo? ;)
[19:22] <Jeeves_> soren: The issue with ubuntu-vm-builder seems to occur only when installing on raw-devices
[19:32] <vladanian_> Hey guys, I'm trying to get UEC hooked up to elasticfox, and I'm getting an error
[19:33] <Jeeves_> soren: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests says 'Ubuntu-vm-builder doesn't allow you to create the VM on a raw block device yet'
[19:33] <Jeeves_> Is that still the case?
[19:33] <BerRMaNyA> I have a problem to install dovecot with mysql, somebody can helpme ?
[19:57] <incorrect> yay! my finally my 8.04 vm is stable under 9.10
[19:58] <everythingdaniel> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server. I get a screen like http://pastebin.com/m54e9003a  and no matter what I select, the box goes away, and else nothing happens. Its not frozen up, I can do a ctl-alt-del  and the kernel shuts down properly
[19:58] <everythingdaniel> (reposted question)
[19:58] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: did you find a tutorial to follow?
[19:59] <mneptok> everythingdaniel: how are your disks conected to the motherboard physically?
[19:59] <everythingdaniel> ide
[19:59] <BerRMaNyA> Reepicheep i asked in #dovecot, they answered that upgrade the version to 1.0
[19:59] <everythingdaniel> one disk, set as master
[20:00] <BerRMaNyA> i have a 0.9
[20:00] <mneptok> everythingdaniel: RAID card or ... ?
[20:00] <everythingdaniel> ide to motherboard
[20:00] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: what version of ubuntu server are you using?
[20:01] <mneptok> everythingdaniel: look in your BIOS and see if there is a way to alter the IDE settings. if it is set to IDE, try setting it to RAID mode. this may allow Ubuntu to identify the chipset differently and load a different driver.
[20:02] <mneptok> conversely, if the BIOS is set to RAID, set it nack to IDE.
[20:02] <BerRMaNyA> I dont have ubuntu server, but when i asked in #ubuntu they answer that i should join #ubuntu-server, but i have ubuntu 9.04
[20:02] <everythingdaniel> ohh okay
[20:02] <everythingdaniel> Ill check that when I get back over to that box
[20:02] <everythingdaniel> thank you
[20:02] <mneptok> np
[20:03] <mneptok> everythingdaniel: and be sure to checksum the .ido you downloaded and/or run the physical media check. it would be frustrating if you spent hours trying to fix a disc that is just badly burned. ;)
[20:03] <mneptok> *.iso
[20:04] <everythingdaniel> haha, true
[20:04] <everythingdaniel> godo tip
[20:07] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: it looks like 9.04 contains dovecot 1.1.11 in the repos
[20:08] <BerRMaNyA> how i can know the version of my dovecat?
[20:08] <BerRMaNyA> I follow this tutorial http://bliki.rimuhosting.com/space/knowledgebase/linux/mail/postfixadmin+on+debian+sarge
[20:09] <BerRMaNyA> but now i trying configure dovecat whit this tutorial http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/04/15/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/
[20:09] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: did you install it with apt?
[20:10] <BerRMaNyA> yes
[20:10] <Reepicheep> try "sudo aptitude show dovecot-common"
[20:11] <BerRMaNyA> i have version <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:12] <BerRMaNyA> I dont have 0.9 :S
[20:12] <Reepicheep> and  "State: Installed"
[20:12] <BerRMaNyA> yes
[20:12] <BerRMaNyA> but
[20:12] <Reepicheep> now run "dovecot --version"
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> 1.1.11
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> yes
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> but when i add this lines in dovecot.conf
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> auth_userdb = mysql /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> auth_passdb = mysql /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> first_valid_uid = 106
[20:13] <BerRMaNyA> default_mail_env = maildir:/home/vmail/%d/%n
[20:14] <BerRMaNyA> and i try run /etc/init.d/dovecot restart
[20:14] <BerRMaNyA> I saw this
[20:14] <BerRMaNyA> Error in configuration file ... : Unknow setting: userdb
[20:15] <Reepicheep> why in #dovecot did they think you were using version 0.9?
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> i dont know
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> see this
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> BerRMaNyA>	pastie.org/683685
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> 	<BerRMaNyA>	is my dovecot configuration
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> 	|<--	feisar has left irc.freenode.org ("Leaving")
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> 	<BerRMaNyA>	so someone have a idea?
[20:16] <BerRMaNyA> 	<tss>	berrmanya: you really shouldn't be using dovecot v0.99
[20:17] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: I'm assuming that you got dovecot-mysql configured
[20:18] <BerRMaNyA> mmm
[20:18] <BerRMaNyA> dovecot-mysql ?
[20:18] <BerRMaNyA> I never run apt-get install dovecot-mysql
[20:18] <BerRMaNyA> and i try run install dovecot-mysql dont find the package
[20:19] <Reepicheep> oh.. I think I see why they said that.. auth_userdb must be something used in an older version of dovecot.. use passdb instead
[20:19] <Reepicheep> I bet your tutorial is a bit out of date
[20:20] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: btw.. dovecot-mysql should already exist.. it's just a config file
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> i try now whit this tutorial, http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/04/15/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/
[20:21] <Reepicheep> you need to put your mysql specific stuff in that file than tell dovecot to use the passdb from mysql in dovecot.conf
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> passdb sql {
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> }
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> userdb sql {
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> args = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf
[20:21] <BerRMaNyA> }
[20:22] <BerRMaNyA> that its ok?
[20:22] <Reepicheep> yeah.. sorry dovecot-sql.conf not dovecot-mysql.conf
[20:22] <Xpistos|work> Exuse me, but how do I create a user account from the command line that can use sudo when needed?
[20:23] <Reepicheep> BerRMaNyA: btw.. if you got more then a couple lines pastebin it .. thanks
[20:24] <Reepicheep> the original paste bin you sent to the #dovecot channel had examples lower down in the file. it's pretty well documented
[20:25] <Reepicheep> reed through both the dovecot-sql.conf file and the original dovecot.conf file.. you will need to undo many of the changes you already have made to the dovecot.conf file
[20:25] <Xpistos|work> would htis work? sudo adduser -G admin USERNAME
[20:25] <Reepicheep> s/reed/read/ ^ BerRMaNyA
[20:26] <jcastro> mathiaz, who's handling the scheduling for server track UDS things?
[20:27] <BerRMaNyA> thanks reepicheep
[20:45] <Reepicheep> np
[20:58] <mneptok> mathiaz: if you'd like, you can make maria-captains the assignee for that MariaDB blueprint
[20:58] <mathiaz> mneptok: we don't need an assignee for now
[20:58] <mathiaz> mneptok: just a drafter :)
[20:59] <mathiaz> mneptok: and an approver (probably mdz)
[20:59] <mneptok> mathiaz: whatever you think is best, dear.
[20:59] <mneptok> mathiaz: wait, you're not my wife. damn this programming.
[21:37] <alex88> i have a vps and i want to offer some free shells, is there a package that can help me in shell limitations, limit user space etc?
[21:40] <nothing_clever> Some one think they can help me configure apache2 use /home/user_name/apache2www instead of /var/www?
[21:43] <alex88> nothing_clever: you can use /home/user_name/public_html for every user
[21:44] <alex88> link www.site.com -> /var/www and www.site.com/~username/ -> /home/username/public_html
[21:45] <Reepicheep> alex88: have you looked at rssh?
[21:45] <preesident> yes............quem bom deu certo a instalação do server
[21:46] <preesident> agora cade o povo para me ajudar;;;;;
[21:46] <alex88> Reepicheep: nope, i'll search for it
[21:46] <preesident> como faço para mudar a senha do su
[21:46] <alex88> preesident: english please
[21:46] <preesident> sorry
[21:46] <preesident> hello anyone...i am finish start the ubuntu serve now, how can i change the password to su root
[21:47] <alex88> sudo passwd root if you're in sudoers, if you are root just passwd
[21:48] <preesident> after instalation how can i change this password...
[21:48] <preesident> i put only one user and pass i dont put any password to su, anf to myqsl
[21:49] <preesident> during instalation i put two password, one to user, other to mysql
[21:49] <alex88> yeah, and what you want to change? root pass?
[21:49] <nothing_clever> alex88: What do you mean I can use public_html? Don't I need to change some thing some where to do that?
[21:50] <preesident> when i put su in terminal ask to password
[21:50] <alex88> preesident: so you have to do "sudo passwd root" than enter the password you want as root
[21:50] <preesident> hum...its exctly what i want to do, put this pass...
[21:51] <alex88> nothing_clever: you can use userdir mod if you want that every one has their public_html folder..
[21:51] <alex88> nothing_clever: but you want to change the site root dir of apache?
[21:52] <preesident> ok, now its clear, thanks very much to send me this informations, i am happy with your words.
[21:52] <preesident> alexx88
[21:52] <preesident> sorry alex88
[21:53] <preesident> please, how can i make configurantions by graphical in another computer via ssh
[21:53] <alex88> preesident: using graphical menus etc?
[21:53] <preesident> yes
[21:54] <alex88> i think that you have to install a graphical envoirment...and use X11 forward via ssh..what you want to graphical configure?
[21:54] <preesident> is it, i need make configurations to hotspot server, i have two ethernet here in this server and one its to conect internet and other its to conect AP (public clients), and i want to do this configs.
[21:55] <alex88> so configure something like dhcp, dns and internet forwarding?
[21:55] <prohibited> hi
[21:56] <preesident> yes
[21:56] <preesident> firewall, CBQ, SQUID,
[21:57] <nothing_clever> alex88: Here's what it is. I am trying to get ampache (web based music broadcasting program) up and running. The last step needed is to give it access to a music folder. I want to use the folder out of my home directory. ampache will only see what it can see from the web on the server. My plan is to put the root directory web page in my home folder then place my music in there leaving a symlink to it in my home folder.
[21:57] <prohibited> how can I set the display size on ubuntu server 9.10 (I'm running it on VMWare Fusion)
[21:57] <alex88> preesident: oh..mmhh..you have to install on the server a graphical enviroment..then remote desktop to it
[21:57] <preesident> its like winbox and mikrotik configurations, do you know...?
[21:58] <alex88> preesident: nope, never tried
[21:58] <alex88> nothing_clever: you have to set only the music dir on all the ampache root?
[21:59] <prohibited> someone for my question ?
[22:00] <alex88> prohibited: resolution?
[22:00] <prohibited> yes
[22:00] <prohibited> in console mode
[22:00] <alex88> mmhh..never used ubuntu server with a desktop enviroment
[22:00] <prohibited> no
[22:01] <prohibited> wihout desktop environment
[22:01] <alex88> uh console mode..wait
[22:01] <nothing_clever> alex88: I need to make http://localhost/Music go to /home/user/apache2www/Music to make ampache work correctly.
[22:02] <prohibited> I tried with Grub 2 config. But it didn't work
[22:03]  * zul is begining to hate windows 7
[22:03] <alex88> nothing_clever: tried to make a symlink a use FollowSymLinks in apache
[22:03] <prohibited> And with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, I can set font size, but the min value is too high
[22:04] <nothing_clever> alex88: Not even remotely going to work.
[22:04] <prohibited> zul: why ?
[22:04] <zul> prohibited: because it doesnt play nice with samba
[22:04] <prohibited> lol
[22:04] <alex88> prohibited: tried with vga=xxx in grub config?
[22:05] <preesident> whci one graphical enviroment do you know ?
[22:05] <preesident> which one ?
[22:05] <alex88> preesident: i use gnome with unbut desktop..never used in server
[22:06] <prohibited> alex88: I tried. But it's for grub legacy. With Grub 2, you have to set an option in /ect/default/grub
[22:06] <prohibited> but it doesn't work
[22:07] <preesident> ok, but how can i make configurations of server configurations via graphical in gnome, have any soft to do this ?
[22:07] <alex88> with grub_gfxmode?
[22:07] <prohibited> yes
[22:07] <mushroomblue> zul: does win7 play nice with a Ubuntu PDC with OpenLDAP/Samba?
[22:07] <prohibited> i tried
[22:08] <zul> mushroomblue: it shoul
[22:08] <zul> should
[22:10] <preesident> ok, i undestand about server with no graphical, but how can i config every steps in server, like firewall, band control, users, hotspot....etc etcv....
[22:10] <preesident> which one distro its the best to do this hotspot wireless server ? please.
[22:11] <alex88> preesident: read the ubuntu wiki..
[22:11] <preesident> ok
[22:12] <preesident> alex88 do you have make this configs ?
[22:13] <alex88> preesident: if i've done it?
[22:14] <alex88> you can use ebox..it's a web interface that can really help you
[22:14] <prohibited> alex88: I search on forums, with google etc. I can't find a solution. I hoped someone have the solution here. But I think the last ubuntu is very different so I have to wait. Maybe the solution is to use SSH (but it's crazy to do that when you have a windows displaying the guest OS)
[22:14] <preesident> help me to undestand how can i make this configs, firewall, CBQ, users control login....
[22:15] <alex88> try to install ebox, it's more simple to configure a server with it..
[22:15] <preesident> how can i get this ebox
[22:16] <mushroomblue> you people are recommending ebox? on purpose?
[22:16] <mushroomblue> do you actually like it?
[22:16] <mushroomblue> it makes my soul ache.
[22:16] <ScottK> Worse than webmin?
[22:16] <mushroomblue> far worse.
[22:16] <mushroomblue> but that's just me.
[22:16] <ScottK> OK.
[22:16] <alex88> sudo apt-get install ebox-all..try it
[22:17] <alex88> mushroomblue: if you have better solutions talk, or if you want you can configure all to him
[22:17]  * ScottK has yet to have to try to figure of a postfix bug caused by ebox dorking up config files.  Not true for webmin
[22:17] <preesident> ok, i dont have conection internet in the server , i am in other computer,
[22:18] <preesident> i am in search page finding
[22:18] <mushroomblue> I was told that suggesting webmin, even if it doesn't pollute all sorts of places on your install like ebox, isn't allowed.
[22:18] <preesident> please take a look in this page
[22:18] <preesident> http://trac.ebox-platform.com/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide
[22:18] <preesident> its waht a want ?
[22:20] <xperia2> hello to all. i have problems with my bind9 server that i have setup. it should now all works but for some reason it tell me that my dns server si not availble
[22:21] <xperia2> my domain is www.wificom.ch
[22:21] <preesident> oh my god, wich one i can use ebox or webmin ?
[22:21] <alex88> preesident: that's the page
[22:21] <xperia2> and my fix ip adress is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:21] <xperia2> this here is my iptables
[22:21] <mushroomblue> here comes the flood
[22:22] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d28fff019it looks all right !
[22:22] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d28fff019it looks all right !
[22:22] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d28fff019
[22:22] <xperia2> it looks all right !
[22:22] <xperia2> dont know where the problem could be
[22:22] <alex88> xD
[22:23] <xperia2> this here show me that the dns server is alive at least from the lan
[22:23] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/
[22:24] <xperia2> whats the problem. why can my dns not resolve dns querys from the wan ? it looks like it dont answer !
[22:25] <xperia2> i have followed the wiki page for settng up a Primary Master Server DNS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[22:25] <alex88> xperia2: tried with firewall conf?
[22:25] <alex88> restarted firewall?
[22:25] <alex88> does it listen from all interfaces? try with "netstat -tap" to check it
[22:26] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/dd1a4fb
[22:26] <xperia2> this is from my web server
[22:26] <xperia2> i will do now the same on the router
[22:28] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d7f754b3b
[22:28] <xperia2> this is from my router
[22:29] <xperia2> hmm is this normal that i dont have the port 53 listed in the laspastebin
[22:29] <alex88> <IP_ADDRESS>:domain && localhost:domain it just listen to localhost and lan
[22:30] <alex88> is it connected to internet with lan? (<IP_ADDRESS>??)
[22:32] <xperia2> i have followed this ubuntu wiki howto
[22:32] <xperia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto#Primary%20Master%20Server%20configuration
[22:32] <alex88> <IP_ADDRESS>:domain so your router is listening to port 53.. tell me the ip please
[22:32] <xperia2> the ipadress of the dns server is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:33] <alex88> ok, port 53 is open
[22:33] <xperia2> great then this must be a missconfiguration ! but how can this be i followed every step as described in the wiki
[22:34] <alex88> "www.google.it A record query refused by zux182-249.adsl.green.ch" have you forward to other dns set?
[22:35] <xperia2> give me a moment only
[22:36] <xperia2> the file named.conf was not changed and looks as follow http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e
[22:36] <alex88> you have to edit named.conf.options
[22:37] <xperia2> named.conf.options was changed and looks as folow http://pastebin.com/d5435dbe0
[22:37] <xperia2> named.conf.options looks as folow http://pastebin.com/d4e0eb478
[22:38] <xperia2> maybe this is the problem
[22:38] <alex88> uncomment lines 13,14,15
[22:38] <alex88> restart
[22:38] <alex88> and re-try
[22:41] <StrangeCharm_> what's the program that's like screen, with with the sweet tabbar along the bottom?
[22:44] <xperia2> alex88: i have tested the dns server at the domain registrator page and this is what it tell me http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef5
[22:45] <vladanian_> Hi guys, where's the best place to ask about UEC?
[22:46] <alex88> xperia2: have you done what i've said?
[22:46] <xperia2> yes i have done it. controlling it again
[22:47] <xperia2> yes it was done. the changed file looks like this http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef5
[22:47] <xperia2> and i have also rebooted the bind9 erver as follow
[22:47] <alex88> that' the registrator page report
[22:47] <xperia2> sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[22:49] <xperia2> i have found a command called dig and this is here the output http://pastebin.com/d75f484b8
[22:50] <bogeyd6> xperia did you check the named.conf to make sure your dns server is listening on all ports?
[22:50] <bogeyd6> xperia wificom.ch.             604800  IN      A       <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:51] <bogeyd6> 192.* is an internal IP address only
[22:51] <alex88> bogeyd6: yeah it's working..but it refuses queries..
[22:52] <alex88> look here:
[22:52] <bogeyd6> k
[22:52] <alex88> host www.google.it <IP_ADDRESS> -> www.google.it A record query refused by zux182-249.adsl.green.ch
[22:53] <alex88> host wificom.ch <IP_ADDRESS> -> wificom.ch              A       <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:53] <xperia2> bogeyd6: i dont have any entry in the fille named.conf that contain the server ip number and my domain name
[22:53] <alex88> so it's just misconfigured
[22:53] <mushroomblue> anyone know why I can ssh to a machine internally, but it refuses/times out if connected through a NAT?
[22:53] <mushroomblue> according to router and switch, NAT is passing traffic through to the server
[22:54] <mushroomblue> last time this happened, I reinstalled, and it magically responded.
[22:54] <mushroomblue> but that's not exactly a fix.
[22:54] <xperia2> why that i have followed the ubutu help wiki page for setting up a primary dns server and there was no mention to edit this file
[22:54] <bogeyd6> mushroom you cannot go internal external internal
[22:54] <mushroomblue> bogeyd6: I don't think that's what I'm doing.
[22:54] <bogeyd6> xperia2 the ip address of 192.* is not a valid internet address (unless you are using internal only)
[22:55] <xperia2> this is the file named.conf http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e
[22:55] <alex88> xperia2: post named.conf.local and named.conf.options
[22:56] <xperia2> alex88: named.conf.local http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e
[22:57] <bogeyd6> and /etc/bind/named.conf.options ?
[22:57] <xperia2> named.conf.options http://pastebin.com/d332c44b7
[22:58] <alex88> xperia2: named.conf == named.conf.local???
[22:58] <bogeyd6> host wificom.ch localhost
[22:58] <xperia2> ohh sorry my mistake
[22:59] <bogeyd6> why is forwarding setup if you want this to be your dns server?
[22:59] <alex88> bogeyd6: cause it tell me that it's the dns of its lan, cause it own domain is resolved
[22:59] <xperia2> named.conf.localhttp://pastebin.com/d5797d6b9
[23:00] <bogeyd6> xperia2 what is the results of host wificom.ch localhost
[23:00] <bogeyd6> host wificom.ch localhost"
[23:00] <bogeyd6> sans the "
[23:01] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d31381535
[23:01] <bogeyd6> i am gonna go back and look at your iptables
[23:02] <bogeyd6> am i to assume you dont have a gateway/firewall/router that you didnt configure?
[23:03] <bogeyd6> xperia2 it says "domain"
[23:04] <xperia2> this here are the iptables of my router http://pastebin.com/d6dbf558e
[23:05] <bogeyd6> xperia2 explain how you connect to the internet from the dns server
[23:05] <bogeyd6> everything says it should be working
[23:05] <alex88> bogeyd6: the server is accessible from outside..
[23:05] <alex88> bogeyd6: but it doesn't resolv anything else than it's domain
[23:06] <xperia2> well i have my server connected to my router with a static ip adress <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:07] <bogeyd6> xperia2 http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef5  says the dns server is unreachable
[23:08] <xperia2> well alex88 told me that he was able to see my dns server from outside if i am not wrong
[23:08] <xperia2> so the firewall should be not the problem
[23:08] <xperia2> or i am wrong
[23:08] <bogeyd6> ok you are right, i tried <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:08] <xperia2> did you tryed also port 53
[23:09] <xperia2> port 80 is working great
[23:09] <bogeyd6> then what are we doing?
[23:09] <bogeyd6> http://<IP_ADDRESS>  does not work
[23:09] <bogeyd6> dns://<IP_ADDRESS>  does work
[23:10] <xperia2> strange inside the lan http://<IP_ADDRESS> works
[23:10] <bogeyd6> i stand corrected, it does work, just very slowly
[23:10] <alex88> Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-11-04 23:10 UTC
[23:10] <alex88> Interesting ports on zux182-249.adsl.green.ch (<IP_ADDRESS>):
[23:10] <alex88> Not shown: 998 filtered ports
[23:10] <alex88> PORT   STATE SERVICE
[23:10] <alex88> 53/tcp open  domain
[23:10] <alex88> 80/tcp open  http
[23:11] <xperia2> ahhh okay
[23:11] <bogeyd6> !pastebin | alex88
[23:12] <xperia2> dont know what exactly  the problem is but in last time ubuntu server has heavy lags
[23:12] <bogeyd6> xperia2 are we to assume you want people to be able to go to www.wificom.ch
[23:12] <alex88> the problem is the domani config, cause it refuses everything else then wificom.ch
[23:12] <xperia2> why is that a problem? as first i want to run only this domain as i dont have others
[23:13] <alex88> xperia2: paste /etc/bind/db.wificom.ch
[23:13] <xperia2> in some days i want to be able to run some subdomains but this is a second class problem
[23:13] <xperia2> okay i will past it
[23:13] <bogeyd6> we should invent a pastebin command line tool
[23:14] <xperia2> alex88: http://pastebin.com/d1f8af47b
[23:14] <bogeyd6> should wificom.ch resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:16] <smoser> erichammond, at some point i think you gave a url to some cloud search site... that like crawled images available on different cloud offerings and aggregated them
[23:16] <smoser> any idea what that is/was?
[23:16] <alex88> <IP_ADDRESS> i think
[23:17] <bogeyd6> it depends on who is using the dns server, internal or external
[23:17] <xperia2> it need to be as first external
[23:18] <xperia2> and if possible only also internal
[23:18] <bogeyd6> change the A records to be <IP_ADDRESS> not the 192.*
[23:18] <xperia2> okay
[23:19] <bogeyd6> restart named
[23:19] <bogeyd6> erp :P
[23:19] <xperia2> just restarting the bind9
[23:19] <bogeyd6> do a sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[23:19] <smoser> erichammond, never mind. for anyone else: http://thecloudmarket.com/
[23:20] <xperia2> okay restarted
[23:20] <bogeyd6> ok the records are resolving correctly
[23:20] <xperia2> should i try again to test again now with the domain registrator tool if the dns server is working correct ?
[23:21] <bogeyd6> now you must go to your registrar and set up your host to be the name server
[23:22] <bogeyd6> Typically, depending on who you registered with you setup a host called ns and then you set your nameserver for the domain to be ns.wificom.ch
[23:23] <xperia2> ahh okay i have this allready. i was able to register a nameserver for my domain called ns.wificom.ch that point to my ip static ip adress
[23:23] <bogeyd6> sometimes they make you set two name servers (all mine have) and you just make two hosts at the registrar for ns and ns2 but make them the same ip address
[23:23] <alex88> xperia2: that's what you need
[23:24] <bogeyd6> ns.wificom.ch doesnt resolve to an ip address
[23:24] <alex88> www.wificom.ch A record has zero ttl
[23:25] <xperia2> hmmm strange but it should. on the other side it could be that it dont work becouse i need it to pay it first. i can check at least if dns is working on the domain page
[23:26] <bogeyd6> LAWL
[23:27] <bogeyd6> xperia2 you need to call the registrar and have them fix it
[23:28] <xperia2> okay gimme a second to test now the dnsserver if ir works. but on the other side if ns.wificom.ch dont resolve it will probably not work
[23:28] <preesident> alex88 thanks for all, you are a grat person .
[23:28] <preesident> great
[23:31] <alex88> preesident: no problem man.. glad to help! XD
[23:32] <preesident> if you want anything from Natal Brazil, call-me.
[23:32] <xperia2> bogeyd6: it looks now much better ! some errors disapeared http://pastebin.com/d112826bc
[23:32] <preesident> only i can send arm, drugs and woman....but the rest i can... :-)
[23:32] <preesident> i cant send
[23:33] <xperia2> this is the old test http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef5
[23:33] <alex88> preesident: damn, i'm in italy..and all that i want are women... =)
[23:34] <bogeyd6> xperia2 you need an A record for ns.wificom.ch
[23:34] <xperia2> i need a A record ?
[23:35] <xperia2> isnt this allready in the file ?
[23:35] <bogeyd6> ns     IN      A       <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:35] <xperia2> let me check
[23:36] <bogeyd6> then restart bind9, then rerun your dns tool
[23:36] <xperia2> wooow why does ubuntu server hangs for at least 5 seconds everytime i try to sudo
[23:37] <bogeyd6> lets finish dns first
[23:37] <bogeyd6> !noroot
[23:37] <bogeyd6> although i always set one and just SU root, but i come from the SuSe world
[23:37] <alex88> SU root is fine also in ubuntu...have one too..XD
[23:38] <xperia2> okay this is my actual file db.wificom.ch
[23:38] <xperia2> http://pastebin.com/d682bb46
[23:39] <mushroomblue> !wfm
[23:39] <mushroomblue> hah.
[23:39] <xperia2> now if i understand right i need to add this line here
[23:39] <xperia2> ns IN A <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:39] <xperia2> right ?
[23:39] <bogeyd6> right
[23:40] <xperia2> this line here dont has anything to do with this as it has also already ns ? @       IN      NS      ns.wificom.ch.
[23:40] <xperia2> or should i delete it ?
[23:40] <bogeyd6> leave it in
[23:40] <bogeyd6> ns record is a neccessity
[23:41] <xperia2> okay i will now reboot bind9 then
[23:41] <alex88> in irc to use a custom virtual host should i config my reverse query in my dns?
[23:42] <bogeyd6> yay xperia2
[23:42] <xperia2> does it works :-) ?
[23:42] <bogeyd6> you should now rerun your registrar tool
[23:42] <xperia2> okay :-)
[23:43] <xperia2> woooow it looooks much much beter now ! it tell me a good sign with a small text "The name server does not fulfill all our recommendations." will now check the test result
[23:44] <bogeyd6> running one nameserver on one ip address is bound to cause some errors
[23:46] <bogeyd6> alex88 you should configure your reverse to get IRC to show it, They want to do a look up on the IP address and find a host name
[23:46] <xperia2> bogeyd6: you are absolutley right. this is the only thing what it warn about all other things are okay ! http://pastebin.com/d31a479ab
[23:47] <xperia2> WOOOOWWW i have now my own hosting solution ! you people here are great !
[23:47] <bogeyd6> ok now you need to tell the registrar to set the ns.wificom.ch to your name server
[23:47] <bogeyd6> or however you have that part going
[23:47] <xperia2> okay
[23:48] <xperia2>  will look for this
[23:48] <bogeyd6> !apache2 @ xperia2
[23:48] <bogeyd6> !apache2 | xperia2
[23:48] <bogeyd6> !apache | xperia2
[23:48] <bogeyd6> you are going to need that next for virtual hosts and etc....
[23:48] <bogeyd6> adios
[23:48] <xperia2> i have allready running virtual hosts
[23:49] <xperia2> okay bogeyd6: cant tell you how much i want to tank you and alex for the help
[23:49] <xperia2> you have done a great job !
[23:56] <alex88> glad to help..XD
[23:59] <alex88> going to bed..cya tomorrow guys


[07:55] <dholbach> good morning
[08:51] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[09:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:37]  * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[10:01] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle: developer.u.c is broken for me - does it work for you?
[10:01] <dholbach> "Internal Server Error"
[10:02] <davidcalle> dholbach, was broken for a few seconds, now works
[10:02] <dholbach> davidcalle, developer.u.c redirects me to developer.u.c/zh-cn
[10:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, can you try in private nav?
[10:03] <dholbach> at least in chromium
[10:03] <dholbach> ah, it works there
[10:03] <dholbach> bizarre
[10:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, at least, chinese redirections seem to be fixed, no more 404 when going to cn.duc/en/* pages
[10:07] <dholbach> great
[15:42] <davidcalle> dholbach, dpm, I just took a small break from fixing duc on new django: here is a new scopes landing page : https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/
[15:42] <dholbach> davidcalle, where does the "missing flash plugin" come from?
[15:42] <dholbach> davidcalle, is this still the same issue with the video plugin?
[15:43] <dholbach> apart from that: really nice work
[15:43] <dholbach> btw some new djangocms modules got new releases, including video - maybe that issue is fixed then? :)
[15:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, hmm, do you have flash enabled? Once the iframe enablement lands, it will be replaced by the standard yt player, the django cms one is this ugly flash one.
[15:44] <dholbach> I disabled it locally
[15:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok, I'm going to add a "Watch on Youtube" link underneath for the moment.
[15:45] <dholbach> yeah, no worries - as I said: maybe the new updates will fix that one
[15:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, true, if they move to an html5 player, that's a big win for everyone :)
[15:48] <dpm> davidcalle, it looks fantastic! Just two small things as feedback - it seems we tend to use full rows for video on other sites: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/juju. I'm not saying we have to too, just an example. However, I think if we have the small video, I'd put the text on the column to the right, otherwise the column looks empty, as the previous and next ones are full rows
[15:51] <davidcalle> dpm, tried that of course, but the player doesn't resize with columns, so it's either a fixed very large video that will stay this size even if the page is resized, or this. For the same reason, text on the right gets under the video (even with a z-index) on mobile.
[15:51] <davidcalle> dpm, note that it will go away when the iframe thing lands later this week.
[15:52] <davidcalle> s/thing/fix :)
[15:54] <dpm> davidcalle, cool, good work!
[15:54] <davidcalle> dpm, oh wait, no flash player on mobile! /me connects two neurons
[15:54] <davidcalle> Putting it on the right then :)
[16:21] <dholbach> balloons, popey: where do I send people who want to add tasks or become mentors?
[16:21] <popey> dholbach, #ubuntu-google
[16:21] <dholbach> ok
[16:27] <balloons> dholbach, also, this wiki page has lots of info for would be mentors: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn
[16:27] <dholbach> thanks
[16:30] <dholbach> balloons, davidcalle, dpm, mhall119, popey: team call?
[17:05] <dholbach> all rightie... I call it a day - see you tomorrow! :)