[03:53] <simplechat_> ikonia: chkdks "The volume appears to contain one or more unrecoverable problems"
[03:53] <aat1> awesome thanks for support ikonia
[03:53] <magnetron> aat1: what does the n72 support? USB storage mode? bluetooth?
[03:53] <ikonia> jimmacdonald: man ln
[03:53] <ikonia> simplechat_ there you go then
[03:53] <simplechat_> ikonia: so the disk is faulty, or what can i do to it?
[03:53] <generalsnus> heyas, ive downloaded the 7.10 iso.. could it be problematic to uppgrade/update this to the release version that is soon comming?
[03:53] <aat1> magnetron, it supports both, but i dont have usb
[03:53] <WippoZippo> hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem.  I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :)
[03:53] <aat1> i mean i dont have blutooth
[03:53] <ikonia> simplechat_ disk could be faulty, in my opinion most likly file system corrupted
[03:54] <magnetron> aat1: well if both your pc and phone supports usb, connect them
[03:54] <DaBeowulf> Okay how come after every reboot I've got to 'sudo modprobe nvidia' to get X starting again?
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus maybe
[03:54] <ikonia> DaBeowulf necause the module is not being loaded at start up. Check the syslog or dmesg for why
[03:54] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: put nvidia in /etc/modules
[03:54] <simplechat_> ikonia: so what should i do?
[03:54] <generalsnus> ikonia: how so?
[03:54] <aat1> yeah but i dont have any software to sync etc. with. plus i dont want to mess up my phone in the process
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus packages change
[03:54] <aat1> but thanks to ikonia i'll try gnokii
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus its in beta
[03:55] <magnetron> aat1: if it
[03:55] <Alloos1> hi guys
[03:55] <ikonia> simplechat_ partition your disk now. Install windows, then install ubuntu
[03:55] <Alloos1> how do I start psql
[03:55] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: sudo sh -c "echo nvidia >> /etc/modules" for example or with any editor
[03:55] <magnetron> aat1: if it's a regular USB storage device, as you said it is, the just copy the files
[03:55] <ikonia> Alloos1 /etc/init.d/postgress start
[03:55] <Tarkus> heguru, thanks alot. gnomebaker worked perfectly
[03:55] <simplechat_> ikonia: partition using fdisk? or windows installer?
[03:55] <simplechat_> the cd doesn't have fdisk
[03:55] <simplechat_> it has fixmbr and format
[03:56] <ikonia> simplechat_ I suggest partition using the ubuntu live cd. Set aside space for windows and space for ubuntu, then allow the windows installer to format ONLY the partition you set aside for windows
[03:56] <generalsnus> ikonia: so updating/uppgrading to the release could be troublesome.. maybe i just should wait until release with installing ubuntu then
[03:56] <delfick> hello, does anyone know if it's possible to turn a usb into an iso, so that if i make changes to it (including changes to partitions) then to change back, all i have to do is burn the iso onto it ?? :D
[03:56] <simplechat_> ikonia: ok
[03:56] <aat1> you have a point, but even in windows, it doesnt show up as a usb device.. special drivers are reqd. so i was just wondering what options i had
[03:56] <Alloos1> ikonia: its started, I want to start the psql
[03:56] <ikonia> generalsnus sounds reasonable
[03:56] <simplechat_> i'll do it in the morning, its midnight here
[03:56] <ikonia> delfick usb is a connector
[03:56] <delfick> i take that as a no?
[03:56] <delfick> :)
[03:56] <tyler_d> whats the best way to mount a vista share?
[03:56] <ikonia> Alloos1 the what ?
[03:56] <ikonia> tyler_d samba/cifs
[03:57] <Alloos1> psql I mean how to I log myself in
[03:57] <tyler_d> ikonia: I have cifs installed and configured.... except for one permission denied error?
[03:57] <ikonia> Alloos1 its clled psgl isn't it
[03:57] <ikonia> tyler_d at what point
[03:57] <generalsnus> maybe im a lil lazy, 7.10 is due to release on the 7th this month..right?
[03:57] <DoYouKnow> ok, so I installed gstreamer plugins and libdvdread3. DVDs still won't play
[03:57] <Alloos1> ikonia: no its not
[03:57] <erUSUL> generalsnus: www.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <Alloos1> its psql
[03:58] <ikonia> generalsnu 18th
[03:58] <tyler_d> ikonia: echo "/cifs    /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master
[03:58] <DoYouKnow> hmmm
[03:58] <ikonia> Alloos1 ok - so type psql
[03:58] <erUSUL> !dvd > DoYouKnow
[03:58] <WippoZippo>  hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem.  I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :)
[03:58] <delfick> ikonia: would there be a way of creating a single file type backup of the usb (including partitons and such :D) .... ?? or should I give up searching for such a thing ??
[03:58] <ikonia> delfick dd would work as a block level backup
[03:59] <heguru> WippoZippo: did you try pci=nomsi (for SATA drives mostly)
[03:59] <delfick> k then, will look into that, thankyou
[03:59] <delfick> cya
[03:59] <WippoZippo> not yet, I'll give it a try
[03:59] <jimmacdonald> Ok so I am trying to do
[03:59] <WippoZippo> so just add it after the F6 .. ?
[03:59] <Alloos1> did, the problem is that, it take the user name I use for my machine as a database name, so I will need a comand to tell it to connect to the databases that are there
[03:59] <heguru> WippoZippo: F6? well you add it to the kernel line by entering grub menu (pressing ESC) on boot
[04:00] <WippoZippo> sorry, I'm a noob with linux, the grub menu?
[04:00] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, psql dbasename -Uusername from memory
[04:00] <jimmacdonald> Ok so I am trying to do "ln /home/<user1>/pictures /home/<user2>/pictures and keep getting " Too many levels of symbolic links"
[04:00] <WippoZippo> I'll just try pressing esc when booting up, ^^
[04:00] <K4U> !grub | wippozippo
[04:00] <ubotu> wippozippo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:00] <WippoZippo> thankyou.
[04:00] <heguru> WippoZippo: I think on the LiveCD it is F6, well at the same place where you added acpi=off
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> hey noob
[04:01] <ts_> I'm dd'ing my hard disk, and it gets to 2GB but then says 'File size limit exceeded (core dumped)'... The HD is 20gb. How do I fix this? Thanks
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> :P
[04:01] <al> While I'm here, does anyone have any clues about Flash sound?
[04:01] <tyler_d> ikonia: did you catch that?echo "/cifs    /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master gives perm denied error
[04:01] <al> I've tried all the things Google came up with.
[04:01] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: thanks, how would tha comand look like with a password?
[04:01] <greedo> how can i upgrade gcc on feisty ?
[04:01] <WippoZippo> heguru, yeah I did it through the live cd. I'll end it at the end of the line. after I red the grubhowto ^^ :)
[04:01] <heguru> ts_: are you dd'ing it to a FAT partition?
[04:01] <soundray> ts_: you have to write the file to a file system that supports files larger than 2GB, e.g. ext3
[04:01] <ikonia> tyler_d why are you using automounter
[04:01] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, or try psql --help or man psql if it requires pword it should ask for it
[04:01] <K4U> What do you think is better? Beryl or Compiz-Fusion?
[04:02] <al> K4U: beryl :>
[04:02] <ikonia> K4U: compiz fusion is current and supported
[04:02] <Davy_Jones> Compiz-fusion of course
[04:02] <al> But it doesn't do anything cool :(
[04:02] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: which of the two already exist? (user2 or user1 ?) are you sure you need a hard link? it is better a soft one (ln -s ...  )
[04:02] <K4U> Now what is the difference between those 2?
[04:02] <greedo> aren't beryl and compiz fusion supposed to join ?
[04:02] <ikonia> K4U: read the wesites
[04:02] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: yes, it should ask for it, but its not asking, just fails
[04:02] <Davy_Jones> it does better things than beryl
[04:02] <ikonia> greedo: beryl + compiz = compiz fusion
[04:02] <al> My Beryl has a Compiz option that doesn't work...
[04:02] <greedo> yeah that's what i thought
[04:02] <vmlinuz`> is it bad to make 3d desktop compiz when playing games?
[04:02] <ts_> soundray:  i was dding to a NTFS
[04:02] <tyler_d> ikonia: followed a walkthrough?
[04:02] <K4U> ikonia: Yeah, i know:P just wanna know if my cube is still supoorted and also the effects
[04:02] <jimmacdonald> they both exist, and I can use a soft link with no problems.
[04:03] <heguru> Alloos1: psql -U postgres
[04:03] <tyler_d> ikonia: bad Idea?
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> !beryl
[04:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:03] <soundray> ts_: dd to an ext3 instead
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: seems over kill
[04:03] <heguru> Alloos1: without any password
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> !compiz-fusion
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:03] <greedo> how can i upgrade gcc on feisty ? i would like to upgrade to 4.2.1
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: automounter requires additional auth
[04:03] <tyler_d> ikonia: so what should be done?
[04:03] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, have u set up the dbase to start with?
[04:03] <ikonia> greedo: is the 4.2.1 package available
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> vmlinuz`: i usually turn them off before playing a game
[04:03] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: ln -s /home/<user2>/pictures /home/<user1>/pictures will create the file /home/<user2>/pictures which is a simb link to the (i guess folder) /home/<user1>/pictures
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: try mounting it with the "mount" command first
[04:03] <nickren> can someone help me real quick setup XGL
[04:03] <greedo> ikonia: no that's why i'm asking :D
[04:03] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: I did, I created a db in phppgadmin
[04:03] <nickren> haveing some trouble
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren xgl is in fesity
[04:04] <erUSUL> !effects | nickren
[04:04] <ubotu> nickren: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <ikonia> greedo then it is best not to do it
[04:04] <nickren> there is never anyone in that channel'
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren there is
[04:04] <nickren> can someone help me here
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren 1.) xgl is in fesity 2.) you've got he support channel 'ubuntu-effects for detailed questions
[04:04] <jimmacdonald> erUSUL no it won't... I keep getting that error.
[04:04] <Pici> !away > minimec-afk (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[04:05] <soundray> greedo: upgrading to gutsy is the easiest option
[04:05] <greedo> ok so i'll wait a bit
[04:05] <aat1> !away | aata
[04:05] <ubotu> aata: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:05] <ikonia> greedo any special reason you want that version of gcc
[04:06] <nickren> see nobody is in that channel
[04:06] <soundray> greedo: if you're brave enough to try gcc 4.2.1, you should be brave enough to test the gutsy beta...
[04:06] <nickren> oh wait
[04:06] <ikonia> nickren not at this exact moment, so sit tight
[04:06] <nickren> maybe someone is not afk
[04:06] <aat1> anybody here from pakistan?
[04:07] <greedo> soundray: gutsy beta borked my xorg on my other box, and i did not have the time to fix it yet :)
[04:07] <ikonia> !offtopic >aat1
[04:07] <DaBeowulf> Theres no modules folder in etc (Xubuntu Feisty Fawn)
[04:07] <Kee1> does anyone know of a good mp3 player for ubuntu that has dsp or at least 5.1 support?
[04:07] <soundray> DaBeowulf: what exactly are you looking for?
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: its a file /etc/modules
[04:08] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, I cant remember off-hand and have got the unix box handy to check. It might your config files tho. trusting local connections
[04:08] <DaBeowulf> A way to stop me having to 'modprobe nvidia' each time that I reboot for X to start up with the nvidia-glx-new
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: just edit it by typing: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: and at the end of the file add: nvidia
[04:09] <soundray> DaBeowulf: 'echo nvidia | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[04:09] <DaBeowulf> But there's no 'modules' to edit in /etc
[04:09] <soundray> DaBeowulf: so create it
[04:09] <aat1> ikonia, whats that nokia package called again?
[04:09] <genii> gnokii
[04:09] <ikonia> aat1 gnokii
[04:09] <soundray> gnokii?
[04:09] <amro> how to use tar with " -d, --diff, --compare"?
[04:09] <aat1> thanks :D
[04:10] <DaBeowulf> a plain file into which I type 'nividia'?
[04:10] <soundray> DaBeowulf: no, 'nvidia'
[04:10] <DaBeowulf> yes sorry about that
[04:10] <soundray> DaBeowulf: or use the command above
[04:11] <soundray> DaBeowulf: 'echo nvidia | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[04:11] <Jeruvy> any evolution xperts around?  I'm trying to get bogofilter working with this but atm it's dumping all my mail into the junk folder and ignoring my rules and filter.
[04:11] <bieb> I need to be able to see the size of subdirectories in a df command..ie, I know /home has 58% usage, but I need to know the folders under home and their size
[04:11] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, but you should be able to get the command structure with psql --help from memory
[04:11] <soundray> bieb: 'sudo du -s /home/*'
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> hmm there's fuse and lp in there now, too
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> Did I overlook that file than?
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> *then
[04:12] <soundray> DaBeowulf: see, you had it before.
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> Okay thanks I've gotta try that now.
[04:12] <amro> how to use tar with " -d, --diff, --compare"?
[04:13] <inoex135> is there someone ever write parallel port driver?
[04:13] <tyler_d> ikonia: error on mount, wrong fs type
[04:13] <nickren> wait your now the beowulf are, the grower??
[04:13] <inoex135> i got trouble when i write :(
[04:13] <Carry> 04:06:08 [freenode]  Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
[04:13] <soundray> amro: you don't seem to be getting a reply -- have you read man tar ?
[04:13] <ikonia> tyler_d show me the command your using
[04:13] <Carry> 04:06:08 [freenode]  DCC SEND from anony [<IP_ADDRESS> port 0] : startkeylogger [0B bytes]  requested in channel #ubuntu
[04:13] <Carry> 04:11:09 [freenode]  DCC aborted receiving file startkeylogger from anony
[04:13] <bieb> soundray... thanks
[04:13] <Carry> ^^^^ to moderators...
[04:13] <tyler_d> ikonia: sudo smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=username,password=password
[04:13] <LjL> Carry: please never do that again
[04:13] <Carry> LjL: sorry...
[04:13] <amro>  soundray,yes , I readed it
[04:13] <LjL> Carry: you might get banned automatically. when did that happen anyway?
[04:13] <amro>  soundray, but I can not understand
[04:14] <Carry> LjL: moment..
[04:14] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - so lets try "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=blah //servername/sharename /mountdirectory
[04:14] <Carry> LjL: last night..
[04:14] <tyler_d> ikonia: ok
[04:14] <LjL> Carry: ah. it happens often enough
[04:14] <amro>  soundray,can U give me an example about it ?
[04:14] <neopsyche> hi, i want to set up a second hard drive on my ubuntu machine..
[04:15] <Carry> LjL: they pick nicks? or random/all?
[04:15] <soundray> amro: no, I haven't used those options.
[04:15] <K4U> help, my control, shift and alt keys are no longer working... what to do/;\
[04:15] <neopsyche> If i plug it in.. will ubuntu auto detect it?
[04:15] <silviu> hello
[04:15] <LjL> Carry: it's usually to the whole channel. in that case, it was.
[04:15] <x-fak> is there a way to make an update of the synaptic package list, (using dapper) ?
[04:15] <amro>  soundray, -_-
[04:15] <silviu> i have windows and ubuntu on the same hdd, diff. partitions. Why can't i resize the partitions?
[04:15] <tyler_d> ikonia: same error
[04:15] <soundray> neopsyche: yes, but it won't mount it. You'll have to partition and format it with gparted, and make entries in fstab for it.
[04:15] <ikonia> tyler_d: change the -t smbfs to -t cifs
[04:16] <soundray> !fstab > neopsyche, please read the private message from ubotu
[04:16] <tyler_d> ikonia: same
[04:16] <WippoZippo> heguru: I tried the pci=nomsi command in the command line after pressing esc. But it didn't work, do you have any other suggestions? thanks
[04:16] <K4U> help... my shift, alt and control keys are not functioning1 how do i re-enable them/
[04:16] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - sudo apt-get install smfbs
[04:16] <neopsyche> thanks soundry.. is there no easy way to plug and play! :-)
[04:16] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:17] <neopsyche> ?
[04:17] <Sajes> Does anyone know why alsa is detecting an inexistant soundcard in my box? o.O;;.. so is lspcia.
[04:17] <tyler_d> ikonia: going
[04:17] <BioPod> Hello everyone
[04:17] <Sajes> and it's unable to play sound either. :[
[04:17] <soundray> neopsyche: no. How is the system supposed to know how you want to use your hard drive?
[04:17] <amro> Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:17] <silviu> any answer to my question? would gparted started on his own bootdisk manage to resize the partitions?
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: done, first command worked
[04:18] <ikonia> tyler_d excellent
[04:18] <K4U> darned, why can't anybody help me/;\
[04:18] <soundray> silviu: probably not. Better start a live CD and run it from there.
[04:18] <BioPod> anyone with exprience with setting up a rt61 wifi pci card?
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: to make perm just add to fstab?
[04:18] <ikonia> tyler_d spot on
[04:18] <soundray> BioPod: yes
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: perfect, thank-you for your assistance :)
[04:18] <K4U> how do i restart x server/
[04:18] <silviu> soundray: i want to resize the partitions with the SO's on them, not resintall XP and Ubu ntu all over again
[04:18] <BioPod> soundray: and did you managed to get it runing?
[04:19] <ikonia> tyler_d welcome
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:19] <tyler_d> K4U: alt ctrl backspace
[04:19] <K4U> soundray; doesn't work...
[04:19] <soundray> BioPod: yes, but it was fairly involved
[04:19] <BioPod> :)
[04:19] <amro>  Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:19] <ikonia> amro stop asking every 30 seconds
[04:19] <kyja> how come gparted reports I have a 92.14 GB partition. However ! 68.5 GB of it only seems usable with 19.3 GB data on it and 49.3 GB free. so where is the difference of 92.14 GB and the 68.5 GB !! thats a 23.64 GB difference !
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[04:19] <BioPod> soundray: farily involved? meaning it was very complicated?
[04:19] <IanLiu> I CD to a folder, but when I get there, If I $ ls, all files are shown, but If I try to execute a file, It doesn't finds it...
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: if it doesn't restart, log in on the text console and run 'sudo invoke-rc.d start'
[04:20] <soundray> BioPod: you will have it a bit easier, because I can tell you what to do.
[04:20] <skitzor> can someone help me with drivers?
[04:20] <ikonia>  how are you trying to execute
[04:20] <K4U> it tells me missing paramater/
[04:20] <BioPod> soundray: :)
[04:20] <soundray> BioPod: first of all, are you planning to move to gutsy soon?
[04:20] <MasterCheese> kyja: Boot using a LiveCD and run resize2fs on the partition
[04:20] <BioPod> soundray: yea,
[04:21] <kyja> resize2fs ???
[04:21] <BioPod> soundray:  (gusty is the 7.10, right?)
[04:21] <MasterCheese> kyja: It will resize the ext3 filesystem to fill the partition
[04:21] <soundray> BioPod: then it might be worth downloading the beta live CD and see if your card works "out of the box" with it. If it does, it's probably not a good use of our time to compile the drivers for it now.
[04:21] <MasterCheese> Giving you that additional space
[04:21] <Vlet> Anyone know of a way of restarting firefox while preserving your session? Like, if I kill the FF process then start it up again, it'll ask if I want to restore my session... Is there a more graceful way to do it?
[04:21] <MasterCheese> I had the same problem a while ago
[04:22] <kyja> thx MasterCheese !!
[04:22] <MasterCheese> No problem
[04:22] <soundray> BioPod: yes, Gutsy Gibbon = Ubuntu 7.10
[04:22] <DaBeowulf> Does not work. Maybe I should have said that I modprobe to remove the module all the time?
[04:22] <BioPod> soundray: ok, i'll give it a try then. wouldnt want to waste your time (and mine)
[04:22] <BioPod> how stable is it? gusty beta.
[04:22] <soundray> DaBeowulf: yes, inserting and removing makes a big difference
[04:23] <silviu> Vlet: Firefox has an extension which does exactly that, restores the previous sites/tabs before exit
[04:23] <Pici> BioPod: There are still problems.
[04:23] <milosz> hello
[04:23] <soundray> BioPod: by definition it's not stable yet -- I download quite a lot of updates every day.
[04:23] <Kr0ntab> BioPod, its still Beta... but pretty stable right now...  release only a couple weeks away...
[04:23] <milosz> am i here ?
[04:23] <DaBeowulf> So anyway to automate that this easy?
[04:23] <soundray> DaBeowulf: remove the entry from /etc/modules again and follow ubotu's advice on blacklisting (private message)
[04:23] <soundray> !blacklist > DaBeowulf
[04:23] <Vlet> silviu: ahh, I'll go look it up - just thought there might have been a built-in key cmd or something :)
[04:23] <BioPod> I'm actually a fan of Kubutnu... any feedback on it?
[04:24] <DaBeowulf> Thanks a lot I#ll give that a try then.
[04:24] <soundray> BioPod: you can download a Kubuntu Desktop CD to test your rt61 just as easily.
[04:25] <soundray> BioPod: to continue this discussion, please join #ubuntu+1, as gutsy is offtopic here.
[04:26] <amro>  Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:27] <nickren> can someone here please help me setup xgl, everyone in ubuntu-efffects are AFK
[04:27] <erUSUL> amro: what is the specific question? i didn't know about but i read the man page and it seems a helpfull nifty feature so? what's the problem again?
[04:27] <nickren> is setup xgl using this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[04:28] <DaBeowulf> How can I lookup the creation date/time of a file? >_<
[04:28] <nickren> but when i try to start the xgl session i get "error, no exec line in sessions.xgl
[04:28] <DaBeowulf> and maybe the edit time?
[04:28] <ikonia> nickren what part of "its support in #ubuntu-effects" is not clear ?
[04:29] <nickren> everyone is AFK, and don't feel like sitting in front of a blank screen for 9 hours
[04:29] <ikonia> nickren this is not the appropriate place to get support
[04:29] <amro> erUSUL, the man page said " find differences between archive and file system
[04:29] <amro> " but I still not know how to "compare files"with "tar -d"
[04:29] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: ls -l (with -c for creation time)
[04:29] <ikonia> nickren your other options are to log a launchpad bug or request on the forum
[04:29] <DaBeowulf> Thanks a lot
[04:30] <nickren> its general ubuntu support in here
[04:30] <ikonia> read the topic
[04:30] <npnuf1> here is a problem, when opening help files, It is showing the html source code. which files are corrupted or what should i reinstall.
[04:30] <npnuf1> running feisty fawn.
[04:30] <nickren> you could just help me real quick and i'll be gone
[04:31] <robertj> whats the default expo hotkey in gutsy?
[04:31] <Vlet> npnuf1: Right click on one of the files anc select 'Properties', then select the 'Open With' tab, and change the option to Firefox
[04:32] <Vlet> nickren: If you get no answer, that usually means no one knows the answer.
[04:32] <npnuf1> Viet; they seem to be compiled html files.
[04:32] <ikonia> nickren nope, best to wait in #ubuntu-effects, more so as xgl is already configured in fesity and you just have to enable "desktop effects"
[04:32] <Vlet> npnuf1: ahh... I think you need a separate app for that...
[04:32] <BioPod> alright.
[04:32] <npnuf1> for example when I wanted to view the help from pgadmin it is happening.
[04:32] <npnuf1> it is happening for many other apps also.
[04:32] <Vlet> npnuf1: are they CHM files?
[04:32] <nickren> use but i'm trying to get XGL to run using the restricted ATI drivers
[04:33] <nickren> yes*
[04:33] <npnuf1> I had reinstalled xchm.
[04:33] <ikonia> !ati >nickren
[04:33] <npnuf1> I don't think it is a chm.
[04:33] <ikonia> j-rockj-rock trailer park ?
[04:33] <Vlet> npnuf1: Ahh... maybe try gnochm
[04:33] <tyler_d> creating a mount folder? should be in /mnt/ and options set to 775 right?
[04:33] <j-rock> ikonia: you know it, rocpile
[04:33] <npnuf1> Viet; will try that one.
[04:33] <nickren> the drivers are installed but you need to configure xgl to use them
[04:34] <nickren> thats the problem i am having
[04:34] <dabaR> tyler_d: what are you mounting?
[04:34] <nickren> i use this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[04:34] <tyler_d> dadaR: a network share
[04:34] <ikonia> nickren #ubuntu-effects
[04:34] <Vlet> npnuf1: Where are the help files located for pgadmin? I have it installed too... I'll see how mine is set.
[04:34] <dabaR> tyler_d: well, you could do /mnt. Really, you can mount anywhere...
[04:34] <ikonia> j-rock is "conky" an app your working on  ?
[04:35] <j-rock> ikonia: yessir, conky.sf.net
[04:35] <ikonia> thank you
[04:35] <dabaR> tyler_d: permissions should also be whatever you need...
[04:35] <tyler_d> dadaR: read write create
[04:35] <nickren> ikonia how about you join ubuntu-effects and help me
[04:35] <generalsnus> jeez, dont think i have the patience to wait 15 days for the 7.10 release.. is the beta stable enough for regular use atm? or is it full of bugs?
[04:35] <tyler_d> dadaR: error on opening from computer is mount: only root can mount
[04:35] <npnuf1> Viet; don't have an idea.
[04:36] <ikonia> j-rock: that looks good. Book marked
[04:36] <ikonia> nickren no
[04:36] <npnuf1> I don't think that's a problem pgadmin or it's files.
[04:36] <DaBeowulf> \o/ It seems it _was_ blacklisted and since I removed that it seems to work fine.
[04:36] <nickren> ikonia: hoe
[04:36] <trogdor> anyone here use wubi?
[04:36] <Vlet> npnuf1: Well, how are you opening them? through the help menu of pgadmin?
[04:36] <ikonia> trogdor its not supported in here
[04:36] <live> hello
[04:36] <glw119> ??
[04:36] <npnuf1> yes through help menu.
[04:36] <DaBeowulf> You can be very proud you helped (X)ubuntu stay the OS of another dumb end-user. ;)
[04:37] <trogdor> ikonia: why is that? what is difference?
[04:37] <npnuf1> may be some files of the html engine is corrupted.
[04:37] <Pici> !zh | glw119
[04:37] <ubotu> glw119: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:38] <Vlet> glw119: #ubuntu-cn
[04:38] <ikonia>  not a ubuntu product
[04:38] <glw119> hehe,thank all of u!~
[04:38] <Jaymac> generalsnus, the beta is quite stable, but unless you're prepared to have things break on you, you'd be better off sticking with Feisty for the next couple of weeks.  For more information, see #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:38] <trogdor> ikonia: neither is stuff in ubuntu repository...
[04:38] <ikonia> trogdor: ubuntu packaged/supported
[04:38] <trogdor> ikonia: I'm looking at physical characteristics
[04:39] <trogdor> ikonia: neither are cds I burn ubuntu to..
[04:39] <ikonia> trogdor: you know what I'm saying though, no-one in the ubuntu team developed it as an installer, same stance on automatix
[04:39] <trogdor> automatix has several ways of breaking your system
[04:40] <switched> how do I know if last is working correctly?
[04:40] <trogdor> after wubi is done doing its stuff what makes it different from a normal ubuntu dual boot?
[04:40] <switched> i see no entries in it, but I think it sounds right, no one else should be logging into my machine
[04:40] <tyler_d> modify fstab to allow non root to mount network drives?
[04:40] <ikonia> trogdor I think its more people don't know if it installs the same way as a cd, and its development path is unknown so the ubuntu community don't support it
[04:40] <switched> er, the screensaver password doesn't create an entry in wtmp right?
[04:40] <ikonia> switched shouldn't do
[04:40] <robertj> what is the expo key for grumpy?
[04:40] <ikonia> switched wtmp is for login only
[04:40] <ikonia> robertj grumpy ?
[04:41] <Jaymac> trogdor, for Wubi support try: http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[04:41] <ikonia> robertj gusty ?
[04:41] <robertj> err gutsy
[04:41] <robertj> sorry
[04:41] <trogdor> ikonia: everything's development path is kinda unknown...
[04:41] <robertj> stupid groundhog
[04:41] <trogdor> Jaymac: yeah I was reading over that, I guess I'll try it myself
[04:41] <Pici> robertj: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[04:41] <switched> god i think i'm just being paranoid then lol
[04:41] <ubernerdmandog> Any way to get 8.41.7 drivers to work with xserver 1.4.0 ?
[04:41] <IanLiu> I am trying to execute a script with sudo ./build_plugin, but It returns sudo: ./build_plugin: command not found. What does that means?
[04:42] <ikonia> ubernerdmandog a colleguge of mine has been trying for a few days now with little sucess
[04:42] <LjL> IanLiu: perhaps it's not +x?
[04:42] <ikonia> IanLiu: its not in the same dir or not executable
[04:42] <BioPod> soundray: can I steal a few minutes of you to explain guide me through the rt61 thing without diving into the beta world?
[04:43] <genii> IanLiu: It means it does not know what program to use to run the script..eg: bash,perl,php etc
[04:43] <IanLiu> the problem is that I can see the file with natulilus, but in terminal I cant autocomplete it with<TAB> key
[04:43] <dabaR> IanLiu: use cd
[04:43] <IanLiu> I CD to the folder
[04:43] <Gr4ck> i create backup partition on ubuntu, but can't write. anyone help me?
[04:43] <IanLiu> I ls and see the file
[04:43] <IanLiu> BUT, I doesnt autocomplete with TAB
[04:43] <dabaR> IanLiu: OK, then try chmod +x filename
[04:43] <IanLiu> ok
[04:44] <generalsnus> jeez, dont think i have the patience to wait 15 days for the 7.10 release.. is the beta stable enough for regular use atm? or is it full of bugs?
[04:44] <genii> IanLiu: Put as first line in script something like:    #!/thepath/to/the/sh          <--- or whatever runs the script
[04:44] <Pici> generalsnus: Its buggy. I would wait if I was you.
[04:44] <IanLiu> it has #!/bin/bash
[04:44] <pulz0r> anyone that can recommend me a bittorentclient?
[04:44] <IanLiu> I will try chmod
[04:44] <erUSUL> genii: the error is ./build_plugin: command not found not /bin/sh command not found
[04:44] <Shapeshifter> Hi, how can I get the gnome copying dialog to show me the transfer speed?
[04:45] <Shapeshifter> pulz0r: Azureus
[04:45] <magnetron> pulz0r: use the standard in ubuntu, or deluge
[04:45] <magnetron> !deluge | pulz0r
[04:45] <ubotu> pulz0r: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[04:45] <pulz0r> I tried Ktorrent, wich crashed, Azureus, wich didnt work anymore when I run fluxbox
[04:45] <pulz0r> :)
[04:45] <erUSUL> genii: so bash does not find the actual file . It is not a probelm of not finding the apropiate interpreter
[04:45] <pulz0r> thx ubotu
[04:45] <pulz0r> or eh
[04:45] <IanLiu> okkk, Now it completes with TAB =)
[04:45] <pulz0r> XD
[04:45] <pulz0r> thx magnetron
[04:45] <IanLiu> Works! Thanks!
[04:45] <magnetron> np pulz0r
[04:46] <pulz0r> let me try that
[04:46] <Cusoon959> How can I stop bcm43xx (the module) from loading at startup and then add ndiswrapper to the startup?
[04:46] <faust_> heh.. Deluge is remarkably similar to Torrent :D
[04:46] <erUSUL> genii: all this guessing that it's a script file as it may be well a binary (elf executable file)
[04:46] <faust_> Or.. to how Torrent used to be.
[04:46] <dabaR> Cusoon959: does lsmod |grep bcm show the module?
[04:47] <switched> how did you type in ""?
[04:47] <Cusoon959> not anymore, because I manually rmmodded it. But it shows up on startup.
[04:47] <Shapeshifter> Hi, how can I get the gnome copying dialog to show me the transfer speed? And does anybody know a substitute for Maple for linux?
[04:47] <switched> oh i have a character chart in xchat
[04:47] <switched>  but how did you do it?
[04:47] <x-fak> is there a reason why wireshark does not appear on the apt-cache search and synaptic ?
[04:48] <Cusoon959> dabaR: not anymore, because I manually rmmodded it. But it shows up on startup.
[04:48] <erUSUL> !info wireshark | x-fak
[04:48] <ubotu> x-fak: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[04:48] <switched> x-fak: maybe you have to add the corresponding apt-get source
[04:48] <genii> erUSUL: Well, he did say he wrote a script :) (normally for sh I suppose) I would not imagine that bash would find the program, since sudo was issued, eg: sudo ./somescript    instead of something like sudo sh ./somescript    (or similar)
[04:48] <dabaR> Cusoon959: you can try blacklisting it, there is a /etc/blacklist or so.
[04:48] <switched> oh
[04:48] <switched> nevermind
[04:48] <erUSUL> x-fak: you need to enable universe
[04:48] <Cusoon959> dabaR: right...duh...thanks :D
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> yikes... 63 updates to gutsy this mornin...
[04:48] <x-fak> i did generate from the source o matic
[04:48] <dabaR> Cusoon959: you have restarted after rmmod, and it still loads it?
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> busy busy
[04:49] <Cusoon959> dabaR: yes, so I should have to blacklist it
[04:49] <x-fak> and i have the laster source with apt-get update
[04:49] <dabaR> Cusoon959: OK.
[04:49] <x-fak> i should maybe install universe
[04:49] <x-fak> for my dapper
[04:49] <gonzo64> hi! can someone help me with an installation problem on my notebook?
[04:49] <Cusoon959> gotta go
[04:49] <Cusoon959> bbl
[04:50] <tyler_d> could someone take a look at line 11 of my fstab plz... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39452/ error on mount is now mount: can't find /mnt/office3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> ask! > gonzo64
[04:50] <adac> how can i find data on my disk that is more then lets say 10 megabyte of size?
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> oops
[04:50] <dabaR> abaR: right...duh...thanks :D
[04:50] <dabaR> 09:57 < erUSUL> x-fak: you need to enable universe
[04:50] <dabaR> 09:57 < Kr0ntab> yikes... 63 updates to gutsy this mornin...
[04:50] <Shapeshifter> Does anyone know a substitute for maple under linux?
[04:50] <Nalleman> where can I ask questions about compiz-fusion?
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> !ask > gonzo64
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> there ya go  :-P
[04:50] <jrib> Shapeshifter: maple works in linux
[04:50] <Shapeshifter> Nalleman: #compiz-fusion
[04:51] <aat1> hey i know im asking in the wrong place, but can anyone explain the gnokii command syntax to me?
[04:51] <Nalleman> Shapeshifter, good point
[04:51] <gonzo64> okay. every time i start the installation busybox opens and does not continue the installation
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> jrib: Well I have a windows version and I can't seem to install it under wine
[04:51] <dabaR> tyler_d: you have /office3, and talk about /mnt/office3?
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> jrib: so that means I need to get a linux version huh ^^
[04:51] <jrib> Shapeshifter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> k thx
[04:51] <dabaR> tyler_d: oh, sorry, no.
[04:51] <tyler_d> dadaR: mounting the vista pc name office3 to /mnt/office3
[04:51] <Blackkatt> i cant get Nvidia driver to work gaahh been on it for two days now
[04:52] <jrib> Shapeshifter: the cd has it
[04:52] <Blackkatt> Nvidia module kernel wrong version
[04:52] <berent> which is the pack which gives me aMule source
[04:52] <berent> !amule
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Shapeshifter> jrib: k thanx I'll check it
[04:52] <tyler_d> dabaR: added the option "user" and got that error after reboot.... in an attempt to allow non-root mount
[04:52] <soundray> BioPod: sure... still here?
[04:53] <jrib> Shapeshifter: octave and maxima for FOSS apps
[04:53] <dabaR> tyler_d: did you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473 ?
[04:53] <Blackkatt> i cant get Nvidia driver to work gaahh been on it for two days now some help plz :)
[04:53] <Shapeshifter> jrib: I guess they don't use the same syntax as maple
[04:53] <Shapeshifter> jrib: do they?
[04:53] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, which nvidia driver you installing... glx, glx-legacy... glx-new ?
[04:53] <profanephobia> i need to send faxes from a ubuntu server using email
[04:54] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  i have tryed them all, but its the newest driver form Nvidias site
[04:54] <jrib> Shapeshifter: not exactly
[04:54] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: wxMaxima is a really nice front end for maxima (or you can use it from emacs )
[04:54] <Blackkatt> Nvidia module kernel wrong version
[04:54] <Blackkatt> when it tryes to start, X
[04:54] <tyler_d> dabaR: ahh, just had it backwards, ty
[04:54] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: octave is more a clon of matlab
[04:55] <Shapeshifter> mhh. too bad, the school want's to use maple and gives us a lot of maple code
[04:55] <tarzeau> Blackkatt: i just use http://debian.ethz.ch/d-i/nvidia-driver
[04:55] <Kr0ntab> ahh.. i see... I ran into that in the past while trying several drivers... and what you need to do is purge all nvidia drivers... uninstall the nvidia driver... reboot.. and start anew...
[04:57] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  howto am totally N00b with linux
[04:57] <soundray> BioPod: hello, I'm back
[04:57] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: im sure there are linux versions of mapple althought not free (in any english sense of the word ;))
[04:57] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, several commands... I'll PM ya...
[04:58] <Shapeshifter> erUSUL: ^^
[04:58] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  hmm i can see u but u cant see me ?
[04:59] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, must register with nickserv
[04:59] <Blackkatt> oh
[04:59] <Blackkatt> one sec
[05:00] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: ?
[05:00] <stroyan> adac:  Use find.    find directory -size +10M
[05:01] <Pici> adac: If you're just looking for big files, you can use baobab, the disk-usage-analyzer in gnome.
[05:01] <adac> stroyan: thx!
[05:01] <CarlFK> what is the command to generate ssh hosts keys? (the ones found in /etc/ssh)
[05:01] <adac> Pici: is this command line tool?
[05:01] <adac> guess not
[05:02] <Pici> adac: nope
[05:02] <erUSUL> !pm | x-fak
[05:02] <ubotu> x-fak: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:02] <dabaR> CarlFK: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto ?
[05:02] <soundray> CarlFK: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server'
[05:02] <porkpie> hi guys where do I need to check what well start automatically on a reboot
[05:02] <Pici> CarlFK: I *think* its `gpg --gen-key` but check the manpages
[05:03] <CarlFK> soundray: close, but I am in the installer.  pretty sure it is ssh-keygen --something
[05:03] <federicomattes> Hello, can anybody help me with a sound problem in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:03] <soundray> CarlFK: the postinst script definitely does it. Have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst
[05:04] <genii> porkpie: System-wide things that are starting or just apps for the specific user?
[05:04] <soundray> !sound > federicomattes, please read the private message from ubotu
[05:04] <Vlet> Anyone know how to use the win key as a modifier in the keyboard shortcuts?
[05:04] <x-fak> sorry erUSUL i thought my question was so dumb that i found it was better to ask in pm
[05:04] <soundray> !bum > porkpie, please read the private message from ubotu
[05:05] <soundray> BioPod: ping
[05:05] <CarlFK> soundray: thanks.  this line look like what I am looking for:  ssh-keygen -q -f "$file" -N '' "$@"
[05:05] <vmlinuz`> I changed to gdm, but when i logoff and go to login window, its same as the kdm..
[05:06] <gonzo64> i have an installation problem on my notebook... everytime i start the installation the kernel loads and then busybox opens and the installation doesn t continue... can someone help me plz???
[05:06] <northstar> I get this error message http://pastebin.com/d1484ca9c when trying to install a kernel i just compiled.  Any ideas?!?
[05:07] <federicomattes> obotu  I have sound, and yes ALSA is selected. But, when I try to open alsamixer I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:08] <usr13> ubotu, tell usr13 about bum
[05:11] <gonzo64> HELP!!!!!
[05:11] <DigeratiX> here is the deal, sons puter at home, he is logged in, I am at work logged in via shell, when I added his account it was a simple desktopuser, but now I want him to be able to admin the puter, how do I change that from cli
[05:11] <soundray> !please | gonzo64
[05:11] <ubotu> gonzo64: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[05:11] <soundray> DigeratiX: 'sudo adduser son admin'
[05:12] <DigeratiX> he is already added and stuff, so I still execute that command?
[05:12] <soundray> DigeratiX: after that, make him log out and in again
[05:12] <DigeratiX> ok
[05:12] <soundray> DigeratiX: you still need to add him to the admin group
[05:12] <blue|palm> does ubuntu restrict the amount of half-open tcp connections like windows does?
[05:12] <stroyan> northstar:  The message is "mostly harmless".  Look in the /sbin/update-grub script to see what really happened.
[05:13] <DigeratiX> root@ubuntu:/home/digerati# adduser justin admin
[05:13] <DigeratiX> Adding user `justin' to group `admin' ...
[05:13] <DigeratiX> Done.
[05:13] <DigeratiX> sweet
[05:13] <DigeratiX> thanks
[05:14] <usr13> gonzo64: [Bug 129817]  Re: install fails: busybox (initramfs): can't access tty: (/dev/sda trouble?)
[05:14] <soundray> gonzo64: look at the screen carefully, and see if gives any indication of why it went into busybox mode.
[05:14] <northstar> stroyan: the package wouldn't install... nothing in grub because it didn't install
[05:15] <gonzo64> @soundray there is nothing it loads the kernel and than it turns to busybox
[05:15] <stroyan> northstar:  Oops, wrong error message.
[05:16] <usr13> gonzo64: Can you go to another terminal from there?
[05:16] <gonzo64> no
[05:16] <gonzo64> nothing...
[05:16] <usr13> tty2 or 3,4,5,6,7,8 ?
[05:17] <gonzo64> nothing
[05:17] <porkpie> soundray:these are services like mysql, apache and courier
[05:17] <usr13> gonzo64: 7.10?
[05:17] <soundray> porkpie: so?
[05:17] <gonzo64> yes sir
[05:17] <soundray> gonzo64: #ubuntu+1 please
[05:18] <gonzo64> oh no its 7.04
[05:18] <gonzo64> sry
[05:18] <usr13> gonzo64: Bug 129817
[05:18] <gonzo64> ?Oo
[05:18] <soundray> !bug #129817
[05:18] <incorrect> i have a large network,  what is considered the best monitoring tool these days, other than nagios?
[05:19] <usr13> gonzo64: no, that's a 7.10 bug.
[05:19] <usr13> I don't know about 7.04
[05:19] <soundray> gonzo64: is this fairly recent hardware?
[05:19] <gonzo64> kk
[05:19] <blue|palm> does ubuntu have a firewall by default?
[05:19] <Pelo> incorrect, I've heard ppl talk about wireshark but I don't know anything about it
[05:19] <gonzo64> yes
[05:19] <incorrect> thanks Pelo
[05:19] <soundray> !firewall | blue|palm
[05:19] <ubotu> blue|palm: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:19] <heman> Hello
[05:19] <aat1> can anyone explain the gnokii command syntax to me?
[05:19] <soundray> !hi | heman
[05:20] <ubotu> heman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:20] <aat1> !gnokii | aat1
[05:20] <Pelo> blue|palm, yes but not enabled by default,  it's called netfilter uses  iptables for userspace (cli interface) and you can have gui frontends like firestarter
[05:20] <heman> Does anyone know how I can change the look of the top and bottom menus
[05:20] <soundray> aat1: what, you need someone to read the documentation to you?
[05:20] <blue|palm> soundray, i know but i want to know if its enabled or not by default
[05:20] <usr13> gonzo64: What processor?
[05:20] <heman> so that they are smooth and transparent like on vista but without that theme...
[05:20] <blue|palm> Pelo, ah thanks
[05:20] <soundray> heman: right-click and select properties
[05:20] <usr13> gonzo64: AMD 64?
[05:20] <gonzo64> usr13: intel core 2duo
[05:20] <heman> ok
[05:21] <Pelo> heman,  right click properties,  you can set backgrounds on the last tab,   you can get some from gnome-look.org
[05:21] <heman> cool ok thankyou both of yu
[05:21] <soundray> blue|palm: it is enabled by default, but not configured to block anything.
[05:21] <heman> you*
[05:21] <blue|palm> soundray, thanks
[05:21] <usr13> gonzo64: Well, you might look at the bug page anyway.  Maybe clues there:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129817
[05:21] <}MatriX{> i dont know how to change my mac adress ( on ethernet DHCP )
[05:22] <soundray> }MatriX{: not all drivers support MAC address spoofing.
[05:22] <Pelo> }MatriX{, menu > system > admin > network : select card , properties
[05:22] <Pelo> probably
[05:23] <eyecando> hi,every one
[05:23] <radioman_> hey
[05:23] <heman> how do I get a theme then just for the taskbar's? Like a task bar background theme...
[05:23] <Linuturk> Will a standard debian deb package work on Ubuntu feisty without problems?
[05:23] <soundray> Pelo: not for the MAC address
[05:23] <Pelo> heman,  check in www.gnome-look.org
[05:23] <dabaR> heman: right click on the 'taskbar' and select properties...
[05:23] <dabaR> heman: it is called the gnome-panel, btw.
[05:24] <misreckoning> what kernel image is for AMD Turion X2 processors? amd64 or k7 or i686 ?
[05:24] <heman> pelo-dabar: ok thankyou I'll try that
[05:24] <soundray> }MatriX{: I haven't read this, but see if it helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu.html
[05:25] <vmlinuz`> isn't there "system run" in gnome? Just like the "KDE > run" that kde has in its menu?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> misreckoning, i use amd64 with my turionx2
[05:25] <Pelo> misreckoning, probably amd64 but we tell ppl to use x86 anyway since there is some stuff missing from the amd64 version,  flash, some drivers etc
[05:25] <heman> dabar, pelo: how do I know which themes are just for the taskbar?
[05:25] <dabaR> vmlinuz`: alt+f2
[05:25] <dabaR> heman: do what I told you to do...
[05:25] <misreckoning> Pelo: well I want to use 32bit, so, i386 or k7 then?
[05:25] <soundray> misreckoning: choose amd64 to get the last drop of performance. Choose i386 for better compatibility with certain closed-source applications (skype, Adobe Reader etc.)
[05:25] <haha> nick eyecando
[05:25] <dabaR> heman: the panel can take any picture file and use it as the background.
[05:25] <misreckoning> soundray: interesting opinion :)
[05:26] <Pelo> heman, usualy they are listed as  other sorry it's not realy a category in it's own right ,  or you can probably canibalise something off of a screenshot you like,  just clip the right section with gimp or something
[05:26] <misreckoning> soundray: I think I can have both?
[05:26] <heman> Yes I know but which one should I choose as I would like a transparent one...
[05:26] <Vadi> I have a problem - changed the font from "best shapes" to "subpixel smoothing", and then back to "best shapes", but it's not doing any smoothing now, like it was before. What can I do to reset this?
[05:26] <usr13> }MatriX{: you can do it at the command line:  ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:12:34:56:78
[05:26] <Pelo> misreckoning, i386
[05:26] <misreckoning> and then change them in grub ... right, don't know how good is that
[05:26] <soundray> misreckoning: you can, but it's more work to install 32 bit programs in a amd64 system.
[05:26] <heman> ok thankyou both pelo, dabar :P
[05:26] <o00w> is there a way to change a script icon?
[05:26] <Shapeshifter0000> Q: Which VM software should I use? It's about Windows XP, so Xen wont be a real option.
[05:26] <soundray> misreckoning: I see, you want to dual-boot. That's no problem either
[05:26] <misreckoning> ok thank you everybody
[05:27] <Instabin|Work> how many netowrk connections can ubuntu have open at one time
[05:27] <Pelo> o00w, right click   , properties,  see the icon at the top , click click
[05:27] <soundray> misreckoning: it's probably only worth it if you run numbercrunching apps, like video encoding
[05:27] <usr13> Instabin|Work: lots
[05:27] <Cusoon959> So, what is the correct blacklist file to blacklist bcm43xx? /etc/blacklist or /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[05:27] <o00w> Pelo: ty I kept looking for a tab that had it I didn't think to click the icon
[05:27] <vmlinuz`> yea that one, alt+f2 how do i put it underneath "Applications"
[05:28] <CarlFK> Instabin|Work: lots
[05:28] <soundray> Cusoon959: neither. It's best to add your own file blacklist-bcm43xx
[05:28] <usr13> Instabin|Work: You should ask a more specific question?
[05:28] <Cusoon959> soundray: but I just want to blacklist one module
[05:28] <genii> Cusoon959: /etc/blacklist      pre-empts things from even getting to hotplug
[05:28] <usr13> Instabin|Work: Unless you're really just looking for a number.  Are you?
[05:28] <Cusoon959> ok
[05:28] <soundray> Cusoon959: exactly
[05:28] <Cusoon959> thanks genii :)
[05:28] <genii> Cusoon959: np
[05:28] <soundray> !blacklist | Cusoon959
[05:28] <ubotu> Cusoon959: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:29] <Instabin|Work> usr13: Trying to max out the connection.... so is it basicly dependent on the hardware?
[05:29] <Cusoon959> ah
[05:29] <Cusoon959> thanks
[05:29] <stroyan> northstar:  That "failed to write to pipe" error looks like maybe a gunzip ended before data was all read.  Perhaps the archive contains a bad file.  Could creating it have hit a file system full or other limit?
[05:29] <soundray> Cusoon959: well, ubotu seems to be of a different opinion than I...
[05:29] <heman> does anyone here use 7.10 is it worth me upgrading?
[05:29] <Instabin|Work> usr13: windows xp limits the number of active connections you can have.
[05:29] <soundray> heman: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:29] <soundray> heman: and, if you have to ask, the answer is probably no.
[05:30] <genii> heman: Why not wait until after Oct 18th release date to ask?
[05:30] <Cusoon959> so what's the difference between adding it to modprobe.d/blacklist or /etc/blacklist?
[05:30] <Instabin|Work> heman: i have used 7.10 since its been in tribe 3
[05:30] <vmlinuz`> dabaR: how do i put that in applications
[05:30] <genii> Cusoon959: /etc/blacklist will blacklist stuff/modules that the pnp or autoprobing may nor find
[05:30] <Vlet> heman: Unless you're feeling brave, wait until it's released. 15 days.
[05:30] <heman> ok thanks]
[05:31] <northstar> stroyan: not really sure
[05:31] <heman> how do I change my splash screen
[05:31] <Cusoon959> genii: ah...so which one should i use?
[05:31] <northstar> stroyan: i complied it with initrd - figured i would drop that this time, and compile a lower version of the kernel and see what happens
[05:31] <stefgl> !splash | heman
[05:31] <ubotu> heman: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[05:31] <soundray> heman: which one?
[05:31] <stefgl> !usplash | heman
[05:31] <ubotu> heman: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:31] <Vlet> heman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:32] <elwario91> hello
[05:32] <soundray> !hi | elwario91
[05:32] <ubotu> elwario91: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:32] <usr13> Instabin|Work: I don't think we have a limut with Linux.
[05:32] <genii> Cusoon959: I generally just use /etc/blacklist without problems. but if it's something being autodetected that is causing the issue, perhaps try /etc/modprobe.d
[05:32] <heman> ahhh thanks for your help people but im confused, I don't understand all this sudo-apt stuff
[05:32] <Cusoon959> ok
[05:32] <elwario91> I've removed openoffice and would like to reinstall it from the cd, how can i do?
[05:32] <Cusoon959> thanks genii
[05:32] <elwario91> without internet, the old version on the cd?
[05:32] <heman> Sorry to be a pain but i've just moved from windows
[05:32] <Cusoon959> so can I just add the line "blacklist bcm43xx" to /etc/blacklist?
[05:32] <genii> Cusoon959: np
[05:32] <soundray> heman: look at the private messages from ubotu
[05:32] <Vlet> heman: no, it's fine :)
[05:32] <Cusoon959> genii
[05:32] <soundray> !sudo > heman
[05:32] <soundray> !faq > heman
[05:33] <arnath> hi, i just got a new computer which only has hdmi/dvi (im using the hdmi on my tv and a dvi -> vga convertor for an old vga screen)
[05:33] <usr13> Instabin|Work: See: man netstat
[05:33] <arnath> i boot the live cd, and the "loading" goes great
[05:33] <elwario91> I've removed openoffice and would like to reinstall it from the cd, how can i do?
[05:33] <ubuntu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyEncryptedRootWithInstaller < is the best encryption for root guide around but does not come up easily, i only spoted it mentioned in 1 other howto, when i finish my install should i rename the guide or link all others too it or just leave it? would it work for all versions or just fiesty/gusty?
[05:33] <genii> Cusoon959: Yes, on a line of it's own, and make sure to put a carriage return after it to make a dead line
[05:33] <arnath> but then the screen just dies (tried this one the vga)
[05:33] <arnath> the computer seems to be running fine, but im getting no image at all
[05:33] <Cusoon959> genii: ok, thanks again :)
[05:33] <stroyan> northstar:  If the problem continues then using strace to record system calls may help to narrow down the cause of the failure.
[05:33] <soundray> elwario91: which CD?
[05:33] <heman> soundray, vlet: thanks :P
[05:33] <elwario91> feisty's cd
[05:34] <Cusoon959> Now how do I add ndiswrapper to bootup?
[05:34] <soundray> elwario91: which one, Desktop or Alternate?
[05:34] <arnath> anyone know what the problem could be?
[05:34] <elwario91> the desktop one
[05:34] <Lhademmor> Hey, can someone please help me with Banshee on Gutsy? I've scanned and added my library, but when I click to play a song nothing happens! It won't even start playing the song! What is wrong?
[05:34] <northstar> stroyan: not sure how to do that :)   if this next compile doesn't go, i'll hunt you down    thanks for the help
[05:34] <stroyan> northstar:  You would want to use strace with -o file and -f to record all the calls under forks and put it in a file to sift through later.
[05:34] <Vlet> arnath: Are you connected using a DVI cable?
[05:35] <northstar> northstar: oh
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: i just tried it with a hdmi cable
[05:35] <northstar> stroyan: oh
[05:35] <Mr_Tux> Heya, is there any official and efficient way to upgrade 50+ computers to from feisty to gutsy?
[05:35] <Cusoon959> genii: Now how do I add ndiswrapper to bootup?
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: before i tested it with a dvi->vga convertor and a vga cable
[05:35] <Vlet> arnath: oh :-/
[05:35] <soundray> elwario91: you can't use the Desktop CD as a package repository. Install from the net.
[05:35] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: you don't want that yet :-)
[05:35] <elwario91> is'nt it possible?
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: so the boot seems to be working, i ge tnormal screen etc, then when the load thing is done, i get "no signal"
[05:35] <Vlet> arnath: when I first installed, my DVI wouldn't work until I got proper vid card drivers... I dunoh then
[05:35] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: no, but when its stable release is out, i want to be prepared
[05:36] <arnath> Vlet: how do i do that?
[05:36] <soundray> elwario91: no, the Desktop CD is for installation or live system use only
[05:36] <jokerman009> hi. how do i connect to the internet from the command line
[05:36] <jokerman009> network manager is only gui
[05:36] <genii> Cusoon959: I don't use ndiswrapper so not much help with it. There are some howtos for those Broadcoms and ndiswrapper
[05:36] <elwario91> ok
[05:36] <llll-> how do i enable sound? (i'm on 7.10, tried whatever i could find on the forums and nothing works)
[05:36] <elwario91> but you can install packages from cd without the net
[05:36] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: i'd do one prototype and clone it
[05:36] <stefgl> !clone | Mr_Tux:
[05:36] <ubotu> Mr_Tux:: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[05:36] <Cusoon959> genii: I have ndiswrapper working, I just need to know how to load the module when Ubuntu starts up
[05:36] <Lhademmor> Anyone?
[05:37] <arnath> Vlet: how can i install the proper drivers if im trying to install ubuntu from the live cd? :|
[05:37] <soundray> elwario91: not the Desktop CD, as far as I know. You'd have to have the Alternate one
[05:37] <elwario91> no you can
[05:37] <Vlet> arnath: I don't know
[05:37] <stefgl> !automate | Mr_Tux:
[05:37] <ubotu> Mr_Tux:: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[05:37] <elwario91> i installed build-essential after install
[05:37] <soundray> elwario91: what's your question then?
[05:37] <jokerman009> does anyone here know how to connect to a wireless network from the command line?
[05:37] <usr13> Instabin|Work:  What is XP's limit on the number of active connections?
[05:37] <Vlet> arnath: you may have to use the alternate CD or something
[05:37] <arnath> Vlet: alternate cd? :|
[05:37] <soundray> jokerman009: find out your interface name, e.g. wlan0, and run 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[05:37] <dabaR> jokerman009: yes. Does it have protection?
[05:38] <Vlet> arnath: when you downloaded the ubuntu iso, there was an option to download an alternate cd
[05:38] <usr13> Instabin|Work: Do you know what that limit is.  (That's interesting, I did not know XP had a limit.)
[05:38] <genii> Cusoon959: Generally any modules you want to always load, put the name into /etc/modules        same way as blacklist, 1 per line and make a carriage return after the end of last entry
[05:38] <jokerman009> dabaR: yes
[05:38] <soundray> jokerman009: or did you mean configure a connection?
[05:38] <yurimxpxman> are there any pdf readers for a terminal?
[05:38] <dabaR> jokerman009: do you want to tell me what kind?
[05:38] <jokerman009> soundray: wep i think
[05:38] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: we already cloned one machine to our computers but i hoped i can get around it for a dist-upgrade
[05:38] <arnath> Vlet: o ye, i just saw it, this would allow me to fetch the drivers & install then? if so, what command would install the drivers? :D (8600GTS)
[05:38] <Vlet> arnath: Are you using an ATI card?
[05:38] <soundray> yurimxpxman: pdftotext
[05:38] <arnath> Vlet: no, nvidia
[05:39] <usr13> Instabin|Work: And I wonder if it's the same with home or pro?
[05:39] <yurimxpxman> soundray: thanks
[05:39] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  am back
[05:39] <jokerman009> basically i need to get the internet up to get X up. because i need to download fglrx driver from restricted
[05:39] <Kr0ntab> i know
[05:39] <soundray> jokerman009: I think you want to reply to dabaR
[05:39] <Vlet> oh, the 8600... I think there have been issues with it... you should search the ubuntuforums.org for discussion about it
[05:39] <jokerman009> dabaR: oops. wep .
[05:39] <jokerman009> soundray: thanks
[05:39] <Lhademmor> Okay then... Should I just report a bug in Launchpad saying "Banshee doesn't work"?
[05:39] <Cusoon959> genii: but in /etc/blacklist i had to put "blacklist bcm43xx", so what do I put in /etc/modules? Just the name of the module, or something before it like /etc/blacklist?
[05:39] <dabaR> jokerman009: do you know the key?
[05:39] <jokerman009> dabaR: yeah
[05:39] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: i tested perl -pi -e 's|feisty|gutsy|g' /etc/apt/sources.list and DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get dist-upgrade -y and it worked, is this discouraged?
[05:39] <arnath> Vlet: o great... :< thx for your help, will have a look
[05:40] <soundray> Cusoon959: same syntax
[05:40] <dabaR> jokerman009: run iwlist, and post the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:40] <Cusoon959> soundray: "modules ndiswrapper"?
[05:40] <DopplerDeffect> is it possible to upgrade feisty to gutsy w/o an OS reinstall?
[05:40] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: a dist-upgrade for 50 machines is much more work than just doing one machine and simply clone it to the other boxes. restoring an image is far quicker than letting 50 machines go through the whole reconfiguration process of an upgrade
[05:40] <usr13> jokerman009: iwconfig eth1 essid linksys
[05:40] <usr13> or what ever
[05:40] <usr13> jokerman009: iwlist
[05:40] <stroyan> jokerman009:  You can usually start X with vesa when vendor specific configuration is not working.
[05:41] <soundray> Cusoon959: sorry, misread your question. Just ndiswrapper on a line by itself
[05:41] <jokerman009> stroyan: i tried with the failsafe config. it doesn't work.
[05:41] <usr13> jokerman009: iwconfig eth1 key ##########
[05:41] <Lhademmor> !downgrade
[05:41] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:41] <usr13> if it's 64 bit
[05:41] <soundray> DopplerDeffect: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:41] <soundray> !upgrade > DopplerDeffect, and read ubotu's private message
[05:41] <dabaR> !upgrade > DopplerDeffect
[05:41] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: 50+ computers with different hardware, that's the main-prob, so we have to reconfigure the xserver aggain and again on all those computers
[05:41] <arnath> Vlet: would it do me any good to use the beta of the next version of ubuntu? as i heard this has improved support (with the new xorg thingy?)
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: You have the wep key?
[05:42] <jokerman009> usr13: thanks. i'll reboot and try it now.
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: no
[05:42] <soundray> arnath: join #ubuntu+1, read the topic and decide for yourself. My opinion: it's worth trying.
[05:42] <genii> Cusoon959: ndiswrapper
[05:42] <usr13> just restart the network
[05:42] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: time for 50+ dist-upgrades is no problem: all the pcs can run it on the weekend :)
[05:42] <jokerman009> usr13: i'm not in ubuntu now...
[05:42] <DopplerDeffect> soundray, dabaR, thanks
[05:42] <Cusoon959> genii: thanks. Now I'm just gonna restart to test it
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:42] <arnath> soundray: ok
[05:43] <usr13> jokerman009: O
[05:43] <Vlet> arnath: if I were in your shoes, I'd try it :)
[05:43] <kurisutofuaa> Anyone off the top of there head the command to upgrade to 7.10 (from 7.04)? Testing it out in vm.
[05:43] <Pici> kurisutofuaa: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[05:43] <soundray> It's that time of the year again... +1 questions over and over
[05:44] <kurisutofuaa> Pici, thanks I head over there now
[05:44] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: i see...  given that the upgrade *really* works this time, you could do that. But i'll predict you will have to fix a couple of things after it anyway... have fun :-)
[05:44] <heman> kurisutofuaa: I do
[05:44] <riotkittie> that should be thrown in the topic. not that 99% of the people that would need to read it would :P
[05:44] <soundray> riotkittie: agree on both counts ;)
[05:45] <dabaR> !upgrade > kurisutofuaa
[05:45] <heman> update-manager -d Is the terminal code to upgrade by you must have all feisty upgrades first
[05:45] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: what do u expect that i have to fix afterwards?
[05:45] <heman> hey guys why are there seperate rooms for everything
[05:45] <heman> It seems silly to me
[05:45] <soundray> heman: this channel not busy enough for you?
[05:46] <heman> soundray: its busy yes I know but still...oh I get it lol :P sorry
[05:46] <riotkittie> heman: don't  tell us to get over it.
[05:46] <kurisutofuaa> dabaR, thanks
[05:46] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: on my first test i had not much problems, w/o noninteractive i just got 2 questions "do you really want to upgrade" and "what services shall i restart cuz of pam-update"
[05:46] <heman> riot:??? I didn't
[05:46] <usr13> heman: I don't know for sure, but may be because this channel is very busy, very hard to keep up with.
[05:46] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: because every upgrade until now had issues... ATM gutsy tends to push interface names from eth0 to eth1,  for example
[05:46] <riotkittie> the fact of the matter is, many of the people having problems... have issue with the speed of the channel as is :P
[05:47] <heman> riot: yeah I understand now :P
[05:47] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: we had the same problem with feisty, on the original machine it was eth0 and on all machines based on the clone of this machine, its eth1
[05:47] <soundray> riotkittie: strange, I gathered my first IRC experience in here, and I never found it *that* hard...
[05:48] <riotkittie> soundray: lol. not everyone does, but i see complaints a lot :P
[05:48] <soundray> Mr_Tux: probably something to do with /etc/iftab
[05:48] <soundray> Mr_Tux: this binds a mac address to an interface name, so if you clone it...
[05:48] <stefgl> Mr_Tux:  i would just backup the confs, and do a gutsy resinatll with the !automate method
[05:48] <Mr_Tux> soundray: ah, okay, thx, i'll check this :)
[05:48] <Feez> somebody know which langage I should use to make a "home made" internet redirection ?
[05:49] <llll-> or how do i su to root
[05:49] <soundray> Feez: which language? HTML
[05:49] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: okay, i'll check what is best for our system. thank you for your help
[05:49] <riotkittie> you dont su to root. use sudo.
[05:49] <dabaR> !root > llll-
[05:49] <Cusoon959> ok, ndiswrapper loading, but bcm43xx not blacklisted
[05:49] <Cusoon959> !blacklist
[05:49] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:50] <heman> whats so bad about using root? I saw on the website it said don't you root unless you have to I don't understand what root is and why its so bad...?
[05:50] <soundray> llll-: use sudo -i to get a root shell. Better yet, run each command individually with sudo if it needs the privileges.
[05:50] <usr13> riotkittie: You are correct. Problem is, that it's hard for the helpee to do the tasks he's trying to do and look at the IRC screen the whole time, because if you look away for a few seconds when it's really busy, you have to page way up to find comments that relate to your issue.
[05:50] <federicomattes> Hello. Can somebody help me with sound problem. I have sound on my dapper but when I open Mplayer it appears 'alsa-control: mixer attach default error: No such device'
[05:50] <Feez> soundray:  well I want to kind of use ssh redirection of ports but without using ssh ^^
[05:50] <soundray> heman: it's the name of the user empowered to do everything on the system.
[05:50] <Dan> .icq.com
[05:50] <Cusoon959> federicomattes: why are you using dapper?
[05:51] <soundray> Feez: iptables perhaps?
[05:51] <heman> soundray: so because im the only ubuntu user in the root admin?
[05:51] <federicomattes> Cusoon959 I like it I I never had problems
[05:51] <alexvd> hi running Gutsy on a tablet pc and have a very annoying problem.  Hibernate and suspend work and resume with no issues if I do it manually.  However when left idle and it goes to Hibernate and I try to resume it comes back fine but then it immediately shuts down.  Can anyone point me to posts that can fix this.  I have searched the forums but I can find it
[05:51] <Feez> I don't have access to root on the host :D
[05:51] <llll-> dabaR, soundray: i tried to sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options.. it prompted me for my password, and after i've entered it, nothing happens
[05:51] <dabaR> federicomattes: does sound work in other programs?
[05:51] <Pici> alexvd: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[05:51] <soundray> heman: it's best to do day-to-day, non-administration work as a non-privileged user.
[05:51] <alexvd> k sorry
[05:51] <soundray> llll-: try gksudo gedit...
[05:51] <Cusoon959> federicomattes: you may want to update...edgy and feisty don't have problems but...they usually do things auto like sount
[05:52] <Cusoon959> sound*
[05:52] <federicomattes> dabaR  yes and even in Mplayer
[05:52] <usr13> Feez: don't have sudo either?
[05:52] <Feez> (I want to use the internet connection of my school department instead of  the one I got in my flat)
[05:52] <heman> soundray: sorry for being very stupid but I don't understand why?
[05:52] <Vlet> heman: It's kind of like wearing a seat belt.
[05:52] <llll-> soundray: doesn't work either
[05:52] <Pici> heman: Have you read the information that !sudo profives?
[05:52] <soundray> heman: there are various reasons: protection from others (attackers from the outside), and protection from yourself.
[05:52] <usr13> Feez: vnc might be what you're looking for.
[05:53] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried to configure a bluetooth headset yesterday and then something was broken
[05:53] <Vlet> heman: If you have to type "sudo some-command" then type a password, you're more likely to think a little bit more about what you're about to do
[05:53] <soundray> heman: as root, you can destroy your entire installation with a simple five-letter command.
[05:53] <dabaR> federicomattes: does sound now work in other programs?
[05:53] <usr13> Feez: or ssh -X  ?
[05:53] <soundray> heman: and if your root account is disabled, it's harder to crack, because the attacker would have to guess your username *and* your passwor
[05:53] <soundray> d
[05:53] <Vlet> heman: I have in the past, accidentally deleted lots of very important things because I forgot I was logged in as root, and mistook which directory I was in
[05:53] <heman> vlet, soundray, pici: Oh I understand so should I make another accunt for non-admin tasks then, oh and also what is the command...
[05:53] <federicomattes> dabaR the sound works in all programs!
[05:54] <Feez> usr13:  I can use ssh -X which works well but I just want my programs to run on my computer while sending packets to the host and the host send it to the internet
[05:54] <Pici> heman: No, just use your normal user account, and use sudo for administrative tasks.
[05:54] <heman> vlet: ok but I don't even know how to code so how could I do that?
[05:54] <Pici> !sudo | heman read these links
[05:54] <ubotu> heman read these links: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <soundray> llll-: anything when you do a 'gksudo xlogo'?
[05:54] <ChrisBatman> new to ubuntu server as of today - looks great, but does anyone know of a webmin type program to administer everything?
[05:54] <federicomattes> dabaR  when I write alsamixer  appears:  'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'
[05:54] <kane77> I have a problem with my wifi in my laptop (it's broadcom) I installed the fwcutter but it acts strange: it works (I have eth1 listed in ifconfig, it scans with iwlist scan), then when I enable roaming mode it still seems to work, but when I disable it again it stops working and it disapears from ifconfig, iwlist says eth1 doesn't support scanning.. do you think that this is a driver issue?
[05:55] <Opspin> Hvad s Kris!
[05:55] <Feez> usr13:  so I was thinking to do my own server/client program
[05:55] <Vlet> heman: linux is a powerful thing, and can be a little confusing at the beginning. it's best to just log in as your mortal user; you never know when you can accidentally do something bad :)
[05:55] <usr13>  Feez: maybe export DISPLAY=:0.1
[05:55] <heman> pici: I've read that before thankyou :P, but I don't know how to code so wouldn't my only threat be other people really...?
[05:55] <heman> vlet: lol
[05:55] <llll-> soundray: nothing either
[05:55] <Feez> usr13: what does that do ?
[05:56] <heman> Vlet: ok urm how do I make a mortal user?
[05:56] <soundray> heman: no, especially since you're inexperienced, you're likely to get something wrong and hose your system.
[05:56] <Vlet> heman: well, when you log into your system, you log in as 'heman', right? (or whatever your username is)
[05:56] <riotkittie> heman: for the most part, you are a mortal user.  you have administrator rights (if you're the only user on your machine), but you have to invoke them
[05:56] <heman> vlet: yes
[05:56] <federicomattes> dabaR  should I give you some other information?
[05:56] <dabaR> federicomattes: so your issue is that you are unable to use the alsamixer?
[05:57] <heman> soundray: ok I get ya
[05:57] <heman> riot: I am the only user
[05:57] <riotkittie> you do that by prefixing the command with sudo when running in the terminal, or gksu if it's a GUI app. otherwise, you enter your PW when prompted
[05:57] <heman> riot: accept when my family use open office & the net...
[05:57] <Vlet> heman: well, then you're set. your user can not delete/modify important system files without specifically telling the computer that you want to do so
[05:57] <Feez> usr13:  I know it's a bit tricky ^^
[05:57] <federicomattes> dabaR  ok fine, but... How can I make this works again?
[05:57] <profanephobia> Is there a way to set firefox's proxy settings with terminal
[05:57] <heman> vlet: ok so I can keep the account im on aslong as im not too curious
[05:57] <ChrisBatman> anyone out there? webmin type program for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <Nashu> Hy
[05:59] <soundray> ChrisBatman: I don't think there is. You can always install ubuntu-desktop and administer via remote desktop
[05:59] <heman> So how would I go about learning what commands do what then, so that I know what commands I should & shouldn't type and don't have to revert back to IRC 24/7
[05:59] <soundray> !cli > heman, private message
[05:59] <Nashu> I'd like to know where are the icons for the HDD, you know the regular icons Ubuntu puts when it  detects a new drive
[05:59] <Vlet> heman: well, if you see some cool how-to on ubuntuforums that tells you how to modify your system to do nifty things, you'll likely need to have 'super-user privileges'. In gnome (that's the name of the graphical interface un ubuntu) some apps will ask you to enter your password again to allow that app to do superuser stuff (like add accounts)
[05:59] <DopplerDeffect> why is the java sdk not considered one of eclipses dependencies? it would have made my life a lot easier
[05:59] <federicomattes> dabaR ?
[05:59] <profanephobia> ChrisBatman, you could always setup ssh and control it that way
[06:00] <heman> soundray: reading
[06:00] <ChrisBatman> yes - i just want easy apache and dhcp setting capabilities
[06:00] <ChrisBatman> i like the graphical interface rather than conf files
[06:00] <Jaymac> heman: here is a decent pdf file: http://fosswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[06:00] <soundray> DopplerDeffect: probably because you can user other java vms with it. Feel free to report it as a bug, though.
[06:00] <heman> vlet: ok well I've had to enter my pass about 20 times since I installed 3 days ago
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> DopplerDeffect, so that you can choose your own jdk
[06:00] <}Matrix{> i have a problem.. i dont know why ( http://<IP_ADDRESS>/mda/testing.php ) dont works ? it download instead of open it ( with firefox ) please help
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> people would get a tad upset if they were locked into a certain one
[06:01] <}Matrix{> what i did wrong ? do i have installed php ?
[06:01] <ChrisBatman> webmin works fine if you download the new debian version - just tried - YAY!  thanks guys
[06:01] <Vlet> heman: that's normal at first, but once your system is set up well, you'll rarely have to do so. I haven't had to enter mine in a few days
[06:01] <heman> jaymac: thanks
[06:01] <DopplerDeffect> soundray, wasn't really complaining, just took me a while to figure out why it wasn't recognizing my import statements
[06:01] <usr13> Feez: I walked away from the terminal for a couple minutes.  What is tricky? Did you get my last suggestion?  xport DISPLAY=:0.1
[06:01] <heman> vlet: ok :P
[06:02] <federicomattes> I need help with ALSAMIXER!
[06:02] <dabaR> federicomattes: I am asking you whether what you need fixed is: Alsamixer can not be opened.
[06:02] <soundray> BioPod: ping
[06:02] <Jaymac> heman, no problem :)
[06:02] <cliechti> palm users here? i try to restore a device but no data gets downloaded (restore from gpilotd completes successfully - doing nothing useful)
[06:02] <heman> I think I now understand why most hackers use linux :S
[06:02] <usr13> export not xport
[06:02] <Vlet> heman: btw, there aren't really any 'bad' commands, it's more how you use them. If I were in a directory /home/vlet/somestuff/ and I wanted to get rid of everything (including sub-folders) I would type: rm -Rf *
[06:03] <Jaymac> heman, also: https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/desktopguide.pdf
[06:03] <Jaymac> that is the Ubuntu desktop guide
[06:03] <soundray> cliechti: can you rephrase the problem?
[06:03] <genii> Vlet: Perhaps not the best idea to plant in the mind of a new linux user who may experiment with it LOL
[06:03] <Vlet> heman: but if I was logged in as root but forgot I was, and happened to think I was in /home/vlet/somestuff, but was actually in / and typed rm -Rf *, it would delete everything on the computer
[06:03] <heman> vlet: ok so I think I understand...
[06:03] <Vlet> genii: ohh yeah ;)
[06:04] <federicomattes> dabaR I'd like to fix alsamixer. I can't open Volume control... but I got sound. Until yesterday, before I tried to install that bluetooth headset, everything worked well
[06:04] <}Matrix{> /who lol
[06:04] <cliechti> soundray: palm device had empty batteries, need to restore it. the gnome applet has a "restore" function. when it prompts to, i press the hotsync button, it strarts working. however after 2 seconds it is done and not restored
[06:04] <}Matrix{> wich is the command to open my ssh ?
[06:04] <heman> vlet: :O jaymac: thanks :P
[06:04] <federicomattes> dabaR I don't know whether the problem is ALSAMIXER or samethong else. I'm not much experienced Sorry
[06:05] <soundray> cliechti: this may sound obvious, but did you backup your device before?
[06:05] <cliechti> soundray: yes, often. i must also add that i'm on gutsy
[06:06] <Nashu>  I'd like to know where are the icons for the HDD, you know the regular icons Ubuntu puts when it  detects a new drive
[06:06] <heman> vlet: what does killall proc do (am I allowed to ask stuff like this here or is there another IRC for all this...?)
[06:06] <Jaymac> cliechti, go to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[06:06] <soundray> cliechti: you shouldn't have said that. Now we're offtopic. Never mind, I don't think you have a gutsy problem.
[06:06] <Mthed> What can i do with .bin files?
[06:06] <dabaR> federicomattes: no worries...
[06:06] <Vlet> heman: If you wonder what a certain command does, type: man killall
[06:06] <Jaymac> give yourself run permissions and execute them with ./file.bin
[06:06] <soundray> cliechti: are you sure you've pointed the restore process to the backup from which you want to restore?
[06:06] <dabaR> Mthed: probably run them after chmod +x'in gthem
[06:07] <brobostigon> .bin are executable
[06:07] <soundray> brobostigon: not necessarily
[06:07] <dabaR> federicomattes: run lsof /dev/ds*, and post the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:07] <federicomattes> dabaR thanks :)
[06:07] <brobostigon> alot of the time they are
[06:07] <soundray> Mthed: there are various types of files ending in .bin -- where does yours come from?
[06:07] <}Matrix{> is there anyone knows why my php dont works ? i try with firefox and says to download it..
[06:07] <riotkittie> killall <process> kills all instances of a process
[06:08] <arnath> Vlet: if i use the regular cd and i do the safe mode thing or something, it seems to work (so far)
[06:08] <heman> vlet: but how do I know I wont do something bad?
[06:08] <cliechti> soundray: it proposes the folder with appended "backup" but there is no "backup" subfolder here. i have a folder "0" instead. i tried the backup function with and without "backup" and "0" appended. same result every time
[06:08] <soundray> brobostigon: they might as well not be, so your reply is not helpful, but potentially confusing
[06:08] <Mthed> I downloaded netbeans and JDK in a bundle. https://sdlc5e.sun.com:443/ECom/EComActionServlet/DownloadPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.DownloadPageInfo;jsessionid=CA488DA623FBACE59418A52877F077F3;jsessionid=CA488DA623FBACE59418A52877F077F3
[06:08] <Jaymac> heman, you shouldn't need to kill a program unless it has stopped responding...
[06:09] <Mthed> I'm trying to program some java but couldn't get the scanner working in eclipse.
[06:09] <soundray> Mthed: please don't use that. Install the ubuntu java packages instead. Private message from ubotu:
[06:09] <soundray> !java > Mthed
[06:10] <nomego> has anyone tried virtualization in ubuntu?
[06:10] <soundray> nomego: I've tried ubuntu in virtualization ;)
[06:10] <heman> jaymac: oh so killall proc means kill all progarms open so in otherwords its like the windows equvilant as task manager...?
[06:10] <usr13> Mthed: Are you sure you can't get what you need from the package manager?
[06:10] <Losos> anyone can help me with me sound card ?;)
[06:10] <federicomattes> dabaR I wrote at the terminal:  sudo lsof /dev/ds*  ENTER.  Nothing appears..
[06:10] <nomego> soundray: not quite what I was after ;)
[06:10] <Vlet> heman: Well, as long as you're logged in as your regular user, nothing you do can wreck your install of ubuntu... only the files and settings for that user
[06:11] <soundray> !sound > Losos, read the private message from ubotu please
[06:11] <dabaR> federicomattes: try lsof /dev/sn*
[06:11] <usr13> Mthed:  apt-cache search java
[06:11] <Jaymac> heman, you have to specify a process.... killall proc won't do anything
[06:11] <Vlet> heman: Like, you can make a huge mess in your room, but it's not going to effect the foundation of your hosuer
[06:11] <Vlet> house
[06:11] <Jaymac> killall pidgin (if you want to kill the messaging program pidgin) will kill pidgin
[06:12] <usr13> Mthed: But to answer your question: sudo  chmod +x javastuff.bin &&   ./javastuff.bin
[06:12] <arnath> hmm, wots the command to mount a linux partition?
[06:12] <heman> vlet, jaymac: ok I understand so the worst you can do with linux is completly uninstall the OS's so you would have to re-install again
[06:12] <arnath> (ext3)
[06:12] <arnath> mount -t ? /dev/...
[06:12] <usr13> sudo ./javastuf.bin
[06:12] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried   lsof /dev/sn*  ENTER. Nothing...
[06:12] <Jaymac> heman, you couldn't do that unless you were running with administrator privileges
[06:13] <soundray> !fstab > arnath, please read the private message from ubotu
[06:13] <arnath> soundray: i dont want to fstab it, just add it once (im in the livecd and want to back up some files before i install)
[06:14] <Vlet> heman: well, as a regular user the only thing you could do is mess up your preferences/desktop kind of stuff. That's why not running as root is good. you can go nuts with weird commands, and it won't break the OS
[06:14] <heman> jaymac: I know I was just saying that if I did muck up all I would need to do was re-install ubuntu again, not anything else
[06:14] <soundray> arnath: for temporary mounting, 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' (adapt the device name)
[06:14] <ganes1> how can i access ntfs drive??
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:14] <dabaR> federicomattes: please do ls /dev and post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:14] <arnath> soundray: "you must specify the filesystem type" (i tried -t ext3)
[06:14] <heman> vlet: cool but still how do I know im a normal user and not an admin im not looked into the root account just the one it set up for me at the beginning
[06:14] <usr13> heman: You can wreck any system if you try hard enough.  just do:  "rm -rf /"   and you'll definately have to re-install.
[06:15] <heman> vlet, jaymac: brb thanks for all your help btw very useful :)
[06:15] <Vlet> heman: then you're a regular user
[06:15] <Vlet> heman: glad to help :)
[06:15] <soundray> arnath: you're not giving it the correct /dev/sdXy name
[06:15] <nomego> If I have some servers (one running windows), what would be the best virtualization technology? is vmware my only option for unmodified linux-systems and other platforms?
[06:15] <usr13> heman: But you'd have to use sudo or root to do that.
[06:15] <soundray> arnath: how is the drive connected?
[06:15] <Jaymac> heman, you're welcome
[06:15] <heman> usr13: :S ok but I wont put thank vlet: :) brb
[06:15] <arnath> soundray: sataII and im lookin at fdisk -l, its sdb2
[06:15] <heman> ok I going for dinner brb
[06:16] <heman> thanks usr aswell
[06:16] <arnath> hmm, sec
[06:16] <Yourname``> Hello. I have a few troubles on Feisty. First, I'm trying to run an application (A gnome app) under different users. How can I? I'm using the 64bit version. Next, I'm also trying to run a VNC server that's available right after it boots up, not after a user logs on the gnome. How can I?
[06:16] <arnath> ah sorry, was sdb1, had it mixed up, thx
[06:16] <bentlegen> does anyone know if there's a php 5.2.4 package i can install via apt-get on debian/ubuntu?
[06:16] <federicomattes> dabaR ok I have already posted it
[06:16] <Jaymac> bentlegen, check synaptic
[06:16] <soundray> Yourname``: please ask one question at a time. To log in an extra user, use Quit-Switch user
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  'su' i belive can let usetrs change to other users. or  ya could 'ssh -X localhost as the new user' (but thats extreme) :)
[06:17] <barduck> Hi, does the 7.10 includes wubi with it and if not, is there a way to use wubi with 7.10 otherwise ?
[06:17] <Pici> barduck: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:17] <dabaR> federicomattes: Please tell me the URL.
[06:17] <federicomattes> dabaR http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39457/
[06:17] <Jaymac> barduck, wubi is unofficial and unsupported, try #ubuntu+1 for gutsy issues :)
[06:17] <barduck> ok,ok...sorry. thanks :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as for vnc. - Vnc is a rather complex tool. and is very flexiable. You could spawn a vncsession from the rc.local. BUt you will have to give it some artuments and so forth. also its possible to run vnc from inetd, where it spawns a session on the fly. giving a gdm login screen.
[06:18] <usr13> Yourname``: to run an application as a different user, well you just have to log in as that user.  (Not sure I understand your question.)
[06:18] <dabaR> barduck: you could try searching google for "ubuntu gutsy wubi".
[06:18] <arnath> soundray: and how do i mount an external usb drive?
[06:18] <Mthed> Any idea why i can't get my code working on eclipse?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  simple way - is to have a user ssh in, and run 'vncserver' (properly configured of course) then just run a vncclient on the local machine.
[06:18] <Pici> Mthed: Whats the question?
[06:18] <rbn> ola
[06:18] <LinuxJuggalo> arnath: mount /media/drivename
[06:18] <Jaymac> bentlegen, my synaptic just lists php 5.2.3
[06:18] <rbn> kon kien ablo
[06:18] <ganes1>  Jaymac:how can i access ntfs drive??
[06:18] <soundray> arnath: exactly the same, just adapt the device name. And umount /mnt first, probably
[06:18] <Furionn> Hello, can anyone suggest me a link to see how to set my own shell server on ubuntu?
[06:18] <rbn> ??
[06:18] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: After doing so (vncserver), it literally crashes every GUI app I try to open.
[06:19] <arnath> o crap, im getting "/dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table" ??
[06:19] <soundray> Furionn: '
[06:19] <dabaR> federicomattes: lsof /dev/dsp
[06:19] <soundray> Furionn: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[06:19] <rbn> yo mem piro en ingles
[06:19] <rbn> no ablo na
[06:19] <Furionn> thx soundray
[06:19] <soundray> !es | rbn
[06:19] <ubotu> rbn: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:19] <dabaR> rbn: portuguese?
[06:19] <Jaymac> ganes1, go to Place>Computer - is it listed there?
[06:19] <rbn> bye bye
[06:19] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried lsof /dev/dsp  and nothing appears
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  i normally use vnc4server, and tweak my own .vnc/xstartup to run a very simple window manager and a xterm window.  I had issues some time ago with vnc and gnome/kde (never did find out why)
[06:19] <Pskol__> !br
[06:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:19] <dabaR> federicomattes: lsof /dev/snd
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  when in doubt simpilify and troubleshoot. :0
[06:20] <vsayikiran> what is the use of lost+found folder
[06:20] <arnath> soundray: is it normal that fdisk -l says "sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table", but that i can mount & read it?
[06:20] <arnath> (should i be worried?)
[06:20] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried  lsof /dev/snd and nothing appears ...
[06:20] <arnath> (sdc is the external usb)
[06:21] <soundray> arnath: no, that's not normal. But I've had that type of trouble myself with fdisk and externals.
[06:21] <ganes1> Jaymac:i can see..those...but it is write protected
[06:21] <Yourname``> Ok, guys, let me actually tell you what I'm trying to do. Basically, I have a filesharing app called Phex. I want it to run as user1, user2, user3, user4. Phex is a GUI-gnome utility, uses Java to run. How can I do it? (nothing should be command line, to be honest.)
[06:21] <usr13> arnath: No worries, that's ok.
[06:21] <Furionn> soundray:  Im newbie in linux/ubuntu, can you tell me with details or give me a link so i can read and learn?
[06:21] <dabaR> federicomattes: please post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:21] <soundray> !ssh | Furionn
[06:21] <ubotu> Furionn: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:21] <arnath> pfew, it would be an insurmountable loss of data
[06:21] <Furionn> better way:) thank you
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  'nothing command  line' really puts the shackles on that task then.
[06:22] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Ok, well, fine. Let's do command line, lol
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  could use xnest, and make a script that launches it 4 times, once for each user  i guess.
[06:22] <}Matrix{> !php
[06:22] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:23] <stefgl> Yourname``: su will let you start programms as different users
[06:23] <soothsayer> I have a file that I deleted, but the file descriptor is still open (i.e. it's not actually deleted yet). How can I recover it?
[06:23] <vsayikiran> what is use of 'lost+folder' folder
[06:23] <federicomattes> dabaR  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39458/
[06:23] <usr13> Yourname``: I suppose you could use vnc for that, I think, someone correct me, if need be.
[06:23] <soundray> vsayikiran: it's lost+found
[06:23] <soundray> vsayikiran: fsck writes to it if it finds corrupted data it can save
[06:23] <Yourname``> stefgl: I tried it, it gave me some java errors.
[06:23] <RATTT> does ubuntu have a character map?
[06:24] <RATTT> java
[06:24] <dabaR> vsayikiran: files that are not linked to noone.
[06:24] <RATTT> was ur prob, i know java
[06:24] <MrDeadLock> Applications ---> Accessories ---> Character map.
[06:24] <Pici> !who | RATTT
[06:24] <ubotu> RATTT: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:24] <vsayikiran> what is use of 'lost+found' folder in /, /home
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,   make the 4 users, install 'sux' then 'sux username'  then THAT user has to run the app. .. repeate for each user.. This will be a bit hard to script in 1 command.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  the users .bashrc or .bash_profile perhaps could auto-run the app.
[06:25] <usr13> Yourname``: And you are saying that  user1, user2, user3, user4  need to log in from [diffenent]  remote machines?
[06:25] <RATTT> anyone here know if there is a character map in ubuntu....i need to type a wierd character which isnt on my keyboard?
[06:25] <Pici> vsayikiran: Its for the ext filesystem when fsck is run.
[06:25] <ganes1> Jaymac:its write protected..how can write to it
[06:25] <Yourname``> usr13: Nope. All in one machine.
[06:26] <glw119> RATTT:just as MrDeadLock said:  Applications ---> Accessories ---> Character map.
[06:26] <RATTT> thnx
[06:27] <Losos> well, my sound card still doesnt work:) i tried the manual
[06:27] <Yourname``> I can't believe this, as this sounds like a limitation. I have 4 roomies who will be using this ubuntu box for files, etc. So, I'm giving them Phex. They will come, logon to their user, start phex and get/send their files.
[06:27] <SuperLag> So... you've tried to install a package, and your dpkg setup is hosed. apt-get -f install does nothing but return the same messages, which also aren't fixable. I'm in an endless loop of dependencies, but don't want to have to reinstall if I can avoid it. How can I fix this?
[06:27] <Losos> anyone to help guys;)?
[06:27] <usr13> Yourname``: Are you sure you are answering my question as I asked it?  (I would have expected "All FROM one machine.")
[06:27] <soundray> RATTT: there is a Character Palette applet for the panel
[06:27] <Yourname``> All I wanted to do is run a VNC server, so I can login from work and login to each user, run phex and keep it running.
[06:27] <generalsnus> is there somthing like "system restore" for ubuntu? so you could set restore points and so on?
[06:28] <Pici> generalsnus: Not yet.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> generalsnus,  not really.
[06:28] <federicomattes> dabaR ?
[06:28] <stefgl> Yourname``: use 'sux' if you need to pass X credentials
[06:28] <deichgraf> hi. I have a short question: where can I configure how much virtual desktops I want to have?
[06:28] <stefgl> !info sux | Yourname``
[06:28] <ubotu> yourname``: sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:28] <soundray> Yourname``: in that case, I suggest you configure autologin and remote desktop. Then you can VNC in from work and do what you need to do.
[06:28] <Yourname``> usr13: I'm trying to answer to everyone in here, so please chill out a little. Frustration is abound trying to make something work. Anyway, everything is being done on one machine.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> vncserver can be a tad picky at time. theres several variants of it. Ive had the best luck with vnc4server lately.
[06:28] <Losos> guys common ;) soundcard problem!:)
[06:28] <Yourname``> soundray: It's almost impossible to make vnc work properly..
[06:28] <mady> bonsoir tout le monde
[06:28] <generalsnus> So, my best bet would be "deep freeze" or some imaging tools?
[06:28] <federicomattes> dabaR did you see lspci posted?
[06:29] <soundray> Yourname``: no, it's very easy if you go via System-Preferences-Remote desktop.
[06:29] <Spycko[> #ubuntu-fr marche pas
[06:29] <soundray> Yourname``: you may have to configure your router(s) appropriately.
[06:29] <Yourname``> soundray: I tried that, and it kept saying wrong password. :(
[06:29] <Yourname``> soundray: This box has no router/firewall or anything at all. So no worries on that end.
[06:29] <arnath> spycko: ca marche pour moi :|
[06:30] <usr13> Yourname``: can't you just leave it running in the first place? (Not sure I understand all there is to know about phex.)
[06:30] <vsayikiran> Pici: can i delete that folder
[06:30] <dabaR> federicomattes: please show me the output of lsmod as well on pastebin
[06:30] <Yourname``> usr13: Yes, I can. But as user1. I want it to keep running as user2, user3, etc.
[06:30] <stefgl> Yourname``: but you don't need to run a complete remote session. 'sux user1 p2p-app && sux user2 p2p-app'
[06:30] <dabaR> federicomattes: yes, sorry about the wait.
[06:31] <soundray> Yourname``: you seem convinced already that your problem is untractable. That's not the attitude.
[06:31] <usr13> Yourname``:  You can't just leave those users logged in and phex running?  (I think that's what I'm trying to say.)
[06:31] <Yourname``> soundray: I'm sorry. It's just that I've tried for over 8 hours, and nothing seems to work.
[06:31] <Yourname``> usr13: From gnome?
[06:32] <federicomattes> dabaR  lsmod  posted:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39459/
[06:32] <usr13> Yourname``: phex is a p2p GUI app.  Right?
[06:32] <Yourname``> usr13: As common-sensical as it sounds, I don't think I tried THAT!
[06:32] <Yourname``> usr13: Yes, it is.
[06:32] <usr13> Ok.
[06:32] <dabaR> federicomattes: try alsamixer -D /dev/dsp, please
[06:33] <vsayikiran> Pici: can i delelte 'lost+found' folder
[06:33] <usr13> Yourname``: well, try it and see... :)
[06:33] <kane77> I have a problem with my wifi in my laptop (it's broadcom) I installed the fwcutter but it acts strange: it works (I have eth1 listed in ifconfig, it scans with iwlist scan), then when I enable roaming mode it still seems to work, but when I disable it again it stops working and it disapears from ifconfig, iwlist says eth1 doesn't support scanning.. do you think that this is a driver issue?
[06:33] <stefgl> vsayikiran: you're not supposed to do that. system folder on ext2/3
[06:33] <federicomattes> dabaR  it shows: ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/dsp
[06:33] <federicomattes> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[06:33] <Yourname``> usr13: Yeah, I think I'm going to do that.. gonna have to run to datacentre.
[06:34] <xImortal> hi
[06:34] <xImortal> =D
[06:34] <dabaR> federicomattes: try alsamixer -D /dev/snd, please
[06:34] <federicomattes> dabaR ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/dsp   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[06:34] <usr13> kane77: sounds normal to me.
[06:34] <Furionn> where to write any commands like sudo, apt etc*
[06:34] <dabaR> federicomattes: brb
[06:34] <xImortal>
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  or manually spawn a vncserver from the rc.local file running as the user you want. that way you have a 'hidden/remote' desktop.  you will NOT see the currently running desktop when you vnc in. but the remote one.
[06:34] <arnath> Furionn: console
[06:34] <xImortal>  verdade
[06:34] <soothsayer> Here is the answer to my question if anyone is interested: http://sial.org/blog/2006/07/recover_deleted_files.html
[06:34] <xImortal> tambm concordo
[06:34] <heman> Im back
[06:34] <xImortal> x;
[06:34] <kane77> usr13, i don't think this is normal...
[06:34] <usr13> kane77: if you dissable the driver, you are essentially turning off the device.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> vncserver  is one of those flexiable tools.. that can be so.. usefull.. once ya learn its ins and outs.
[06:34] <stefg> !br  | xImortal
[06:34] <ubotu> xImortal: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:35] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: That sounds about right. How can I do it? I have no idea about the workings of rc.local. :(
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  its a bash script. :)
[06:35] <xImortal> stefg :P ok.
[06:35] <xImortal> ;x
[06:35] <usr13> kane77: and you won't see the network device name anymore.
[06:35] <Furionn> how to reach there arnath? sorry im so newbie:)
[06:35] <federicomattes> dabaR  federico@Federico-ubuntu:~$ alsamixer -D /dev/snd    ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/snd   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/snd: No such file or directory
[06:35] <kane77> usr13, that's badly written I meant I disable roaming mode... not the card
[06:35] <usr13> kane77: O
[06:35] <exilio> hola
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  if using vnc4server, you can make a users .vnc/xstartup run what you like.
[06:35] <arnath> Furionn: programs -> accessoires -> terminal
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you could spawn 4 vncserver sessions one for each user even that way.
[06:35] <Furionn> thanks :)
[06:35] <exilio> some body speak spanish?????
[06:35] <Some_ux> Hi, is the username admin, taken in ubuntu?
[06:36] <arnath> np
[06:36] <stefg> !es
[06:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <usr13> kane77: So, what command are you using to dissable roaming?
[06:36] <murkyMurk> exilio: i believe they do in spain
[06:36] <exilio> allguien que hable espaol???
[06:36] <exilio> grub err 17
[06:36] <dgjones> !es | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: please see above
[06:36] <stefg> !es | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: please see above
[06:36] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Is there a way it could automatically do the spawning once the machine boots up? And is there a GUI config util?
[06:36] <kane77> usr13, the gui config
[06:36] <exilio> grub error 17
[06:36] <exilio> how can i fix it
[06:36] <exilio> ??
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  rc.local runs befor X even starts..  so that IS when it boots up.
[06:36] <stefg> !grub | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:37] <genii> Some_ux: no
[06:37] <murkyMurk> Some_ux: nope, admin is root (kinda)
[06:37] <kane77> usr13, I also set it to settings it was before (static IP, no WEP etc)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as for a GUI.. no idea there.. I doubt it. thats what scripting is all about.
[06:37] <usr13> kane77: Then I don't know what the GUI app is really doing, but sounds like it's just unloading the driver.
[06:37] <Some_ux> so i can create a new user with the name admin ?
[06:37] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Ah, gotcha! Is there somewhere I can read something about rc.local to see how it'll span out?
[06:37] <genii> Some_ux: Yes
[06:37] <exilio> i install linux from a usb with syslinux
[06:37] <exilio> but
[06:37] <Some_ux> cool
[06:37] <kane77> usr13, so how should I disable the roaming mode from terminal?
[06:37] <usr13> kane77: What you need to do is set up multiple profiles and just switch from one to the other.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  i would start by reading the vncserver manual.   rc.local is Just a simle bash script.   everything ran in there gets ran as root.
[06:37] <exilio> when the computer load
[06:38] <exilio> grub error 17
[06:38] <exilio> how can i fix it ??
[06:38] <exilio> please help me
[06:38] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: So, I'm guessing I use sux to run stuff through rc.local?
[06:38] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of th trashcan?
[06:38] <stefg> !please | exilio
[06:38] <ubotu> exilio: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[06:38] <usr13> kane77: I don't know, just set the essid to a specific name, rather than "any" or what ever it is.
[06:38] <Spycko[> je veux allez sur le forum fr
[06:38] <stefg> !fr
[06:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  so i 'guess' the process would be similer to..   make a .vnc/xstartup for each user that spawns a simple window manager, (like jwm) and the tool you want to run., then  use 'sudo username vncserver' for each user in rc.local
[06:39] <usr13> kane77: setting essid to "any" would be roaming mode, I think.
[06:40] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of th trashcan?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you would NOT use 'sux' from rc.local
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  Sux lets other users apps show up on your current desktop
[06:40] <federicomattes> dabaR   do you need some other information?
[06:40] <Some_ux> where is a users home directory defined ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you could make one user, that has a script that spawns the app for all 4 users. using sux i guess. :)
[06:40] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Depends on the file system (may not be possible)
[06:40] <usr13> kane77: and you would control that with iwconfig.  e.g.  iwconfig eth1 essid linksys    or   iwconfig eth1 any
[06:40] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: I wouldn't mind that either.. actually, all of them showing up in one place.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> That way it would be one vncserver instance not 4
[06:40] <JG3X> @ find configuring cisco firewalls
[06:41] <soundray> Some_ux: in  /etc/passwd
[06:41] <hgjjjf> soothsayer can u run me through on how in anycase
[06:41] <usr13> kane77: corrections: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid linksys    or  sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any
[06:41] <Some_ux> cool
[06:42] <usr13> kane77: iwconfig   with no arguments will show current settings
[06:42] <jason__> what file do i have to edit to let hddtemp run without needing the root password?
[06:42] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: The procedure is different depending on the filesystem. If is ext2 there is 'e2undel' or 'recover'. There is also a procedure that I know works for reiserfs3
[06:42] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Yeah, that sounds easier to me.. lol
[06:42] <federicomattes> dabaR  ?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as i said. vnc is flexiable and powerfull.. and has a lot of 'nested' shell scripts it uses to do things.
[06:42] <bloodboy> i would like to konw what filesystem is the most reliable in Linux?
[06:43] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: As for other file systems I do not know
[06:43] <kane77> usr13, strange is that card lists if I use iwconfig, but not with ifconfig (normally it lists also there)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  using jwm as the window manager for vnc will save a lot of resources also.
[06:43] <bloodboy> is ext3 FS good?
[06:43] <hgjjjf> soothsayer:  its for ext3
[06:43] <usr13> jason__: hddtemp.conf I would imagine.
[06:43] <murkyMurk> kane77: man iwconfig is very well written.  ap auto is probably what you need for auto-roaming
[06:43] <bloodboy> how about Reizer FS?
[06:43] <soundray> jason_: you should run hddtemp as a daemon from /etc/rc.local. Then you can have readouts with user privileges
[06:44] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of the trashcan?
[06:44] <soothsayer> hgjjjf:  http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[06:44] <soundray> bloodboy: ext3 is the best-tested in desktop/laptop/workstation scenarios
[06:44] <dabaR> federicomattes: not sure what to do.
[06:44] <hgjjjf> soothsayer:  thnks
[06:44] <usr13> kane77: May be that it will only show in ifconfig if it is connected to a live network.
[06:44] <usr13> guessing  ^^^
[06:44] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: I'm trying to look for vnc documentation for the one in Ubuntu so I can understand all of it.. but it seems to be hidden somewhere, heh
[06:44] <dabaR> federicomattes: google with the entire error message when you run just 'alsamixer'
[06:45] <federicomattes> dabaR  thanks
[06:45] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Umm. Did you read it?
[06:45] <stefg> hgjjjf: you better have a backup. ext3 has no working undelete-tool
[06:45] <bloodboy> kthx for the info soundray
[06:45] <anto> Heya guys i just got a gusty update today an i have totaly forgotten how to reinstall my nvidia drivers !
[06:46] <murkyMurk> kane77: ifconfig just shows enabled devices....ifconfig wlan0 up (or wahtever yours in called) should make sure it's shown
[06:46] <usr13> Yourname``: try:  man vncserver
[06:46] <hgjjjf> stefg no and soothsayer yes
[06:46] <soundray> anto: wrong channel, please join #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  ive been usign vnc for years and years. :) read the 'vncserver' file. (yes ITS a script) and theres dozens of vnc tutorial sites out.. gentoo wiki pages have some good info also.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  vncserver --help is handy also.
[06:46] <anto> Doh oki
[06:46] <b3nw> anyone know a program that that allows you to watch input/output of sound?
[06:46] <usr13> anto has gone beta on us! :)
[06:46] <soundray> b3nw: you mean like an oscilloscope?
[06:46] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Maybe you can try 'magicrescue'
[06:46] <Yourname``> Gotcha.
[06:46] <Yourname``> Thanks guys.
[06:47] <b3nw> let me look, thanks soudnray
[06:47] <soundray> b3nw: 'apt-cache search oscilloscope'
[06:47] <kane77> murkyMurk, but ifconfig eth1 up doesn't work at that time (says that there is no such device)
[06:47] <usr13> anto: apt-cache search nvidia
[06:47] <usr13> will get u started^^
[06:48] <murkyMurk> kane77: eth1 might not be the name of your device. ra0 wlan0 are both possibles
[06:48] <hgjjjf> thnks again soothsayer
[06:48] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Okay.
[06:48] <kane77> murkyMurk, eth1  is the name.. only when this happens it is gone...
[06:49] <Some_ux> where is it customary to place downloaded installation files for applications which serve all users
[06:49] <usr13> kane77: ifconfig  [show network device names]
[06:49] <soundray> Some_ux: /usr/local or /opt
[06:49] <usr13> iwconfig  [show wireless device names]
[06:49] <soundray> Some_ux: wikipedia has a good page on FHS (the filesystem hierarchy standard)
[06:49] <murkyMurk> kane77: refresh the problem for me
[06:50] <Some_ux> soundray: thanks
[06:51] <usr13> murkyMurk: kane77 is trying to figure out how to easily switch from one hetwork to another with his wireless nic.
[06:52] <kane77> murkyMurk, it's broadcom with fwcutter, when I enable roaming mode and then disable it again the interface just disapears... after restart it's back.. could this be driver related?
[06:52] <generalsnus> is there any way of connecting to a ubuntu box..from a winxp cmd line?
[06:52] <devious`> hi all
[06:52] <Furionn> Is that possible to make a shell and create egg/bnc?
[06:52] <murkyMurk> usr13: ahhh. Use iwlist to discover devices, iwconfig to reassociate it to the new ap, ifconfig to down and then up it
[06:52] <murkyMurk> kane77: yep.
[06:52] <devious`> ppl, i got a q
[06:52] <devious`> when i was installing kubuntu, i denied the use of paging file, since i have 2Gb RAM.. Is that a good idea or not? If not, can i change that now?
[06:52] <soundray> generalsnus: telnet (but it's not safe)
[06:52] <usr13> murkyMurk: And it's not a fully supported card, so it's going to have a non-standard device name.
[06:53] <cliechti> generalsnus: something like running a SSH server on ubuntu and logging in from xp with putty/plink?
[06:53] <soundray> generalsnus: you could install Cygwin -- that will give you a bash shell with ssh
[06:53] <Furionn> Is that possible to make a shell and create egg/bnc?
[06:53] <stefg> soundray, Some_ux : installed apllications go there, but to store archives ususally /usr/src (source code) or /var/local would be used. /usr is readonly by definition, so you can't download to there
[06:53] <profanephobia> I need a way to message an xp client over a LAN by the IP address
[06:53] <murkyMurk> usr13: ewwwww..the words 'linux wifi' and 'not fully supported device' still send shivers down my spine
[06:53] <generalsnus> hm..does putty require an installation?
[06:54] <Some_ux> using /opt here
[06:54] <usr13> kane77: haveing a wireless card running under ndsiwrapper will not have full range of functions.
[06:54] <cliechti> generalsnus: no, you can grab the zip archive. it is a single exe
[06:54] <vsayikira1> the default trash folder for /media/sda7 is .Trash_username folder i want to change this to some another folder is it possible?
[06:55] <usr13>  murkyMurk, Then use fully supported device, (if you want ease of use).  :)
[06:55] <stefg> vsayikira1: no
[06:55] <deb_user> after upgrading to edge, then to feisty, and having inumerable and very intractable problems with fglrx and xserver, i finally removed fglrx, reconfigured xserver, and now I get a spash screen but after logging in the command line comes up in a little black box at the left hand corner...no GNOME, please help
[06:55] <soundray> vsayikira1: use a symlink: 'ln -sf /path/to/.Trash-username /path/to/someothername'
[06:55] <NiCo_1985> generalsnus, nope
[06:55] <nerdzyboy> Im running ubuntu 7.10b, Im having a problem with my wifi card, it is being detected properly, the network manager connects properly to any network but the speed never gets over 10-12 kb/s is that normal? (in windows i can get speeds of 800 kb/s with the same card...)
[06:55] <Pici> nerdzyboy: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:55] <ganes1> soundray:inside drive "file system" i m not able to create folder..can u help??
[06:56] <Some_ux> how do i move entire directories ?
[06:56] <soundray> ganes1: prepend sudo
[06:56] <soundray> Some_ux: with mv
[06:56] <vsayikira1> what is difference b'ween symlink and link
[06:56] <Some_ux> soundray: i am trying without success
[06:57] <deb_user> anybody know why the command line comes up in a little black box after trying to login?  can't seem to get to my desktop in the GUI
[06:57] <soundray> Some_ux: what does it say?
[06:57] <henry> hi
[06:57] <Some_ux> mv: inter-device move failed: `vmware-server-distrib/' to `/opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[06:57] <soundray> deb_user: take a look at $HOME/.xsession-errors to see if a failure has been logged
[06:57] <vsayikira1> soundray: is it necessary that both folders should have same permissions
[06:57] <murkyMurk> usr13: I do now. This was at the beginning of wifi when ndiswrapper was the only option for a lot of cards.
[06:57] <ravihp> /HELP
[06:58] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, symlinks inherit the link target's permissions
[06:58] <Some_ux> they are on different partitions
[06:58] <soundray> vsayikira1: man ln
[06:58] <Pici> !ask | ravihp
[06:58] <ubotu> ravihp: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:58] <stefg> deb_user: i'd  make backup and dpkg --get-selections and reinstall from scratch. Upgrades don't work, ubuntu rule of aquisition #139
[06:58] <profanephobia> does anyone know any apps to message xp clients over a LAN?
[06:58] <soundray> Some_ux: 'vmware-server-distrib/* to /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[06:59] <ganes1> soundray:i din get u
[06:59] <Some_ux> yes
[06:59] <soundray> Some_ux: sorry, hit enter too early. 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[06:59] <vsayikira1> soundray: is there any way so that a folder cannot inherit permissions from its parent folder
[06:59] <Some_ux> yes
[06:59] <Pici> profanephobia: you might be able to use something that hooks into 'net send' but that requires that the messenger service be turned on on the target computers, which it usually isnt.
[06:59] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, that wouldn't make sense
[06:59] <Some_ux> wat
[06:59] <Some_ux> wait, no
[07:00] <profanephobia> Pici, thanks i know i can always count on you lol
[07:00] <Some_ux> 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/'
[07:00] <ravihp> does any one know how to use getch(),clrscr(),etc functions in gcc because conio.h won't work in gcc
[07:00] <riotkittie> i remeber the days when it was safe to have the messenger service turned on. <thinks back fondly>
[07:00] <soundray> ganes1: if you can't use 'command' due to permissions, use 'sudo command' instead.
[07:00] <kane77> usr13, it is running with fwcutter, and nevermind it seems to work again I purge removed the bcm43xx-fwcutter and reinstalled again...
[07:01] <Airwulf> hey to you all
[07:01] <lordsmok> exit
[07:01] <Tonren> I'm trying to record in Audacity.  On record, I can see the Microphone monitor go up and down.  On playback, I can see the speaker monitor go up and down.  However, no other indications of sound being recorded are there.
[07:01] <kane77> usr13, on the page it says that my card (bcm4311) is supported...
[07:01] <vsayikira1> soundray: but in ntfs partition supports that , a child folder can have independent permission than its parent folder
[07:01] <vsayikira1> soundray: so may be there must be some way in ext3
[07:01] <ravihp> how to use conio.h in gcc?
[07:01] <soundray> Some_ux: no, that won't do what you want, unless I completely misread your intentions
[07:01] <ganes1> soundray:i m new to linux..pls help me..i m learning
[07:01] <yhell> hello
[07:01] <cliechti> Tonren: and other applications can play sound?
[07:01] <Airwulf> How can I change the umask of mounted usb storage devices? I remember that I did it in some udev rules, but I can't find it anymore on feisty
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: Yep.
[07:02] <ganes1> soundray:which command to use
[07:02] <Shapeshifter> Is virtualbox worse in performance than VMWare?
[07:02] <soundray> vsayikira1: I was talking about symbolic links, not subfolders. Subfolder permissions are independent in ext3, just like they are in ntfs
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I'm running it with "aoss audacity"
[07:02] <ravihp> how to use getch() in gcc?
[07:02] <usr13>  murkyMurk;  ndiswrapper works just fine in most cases, it's just that you don't have full range of functions, and you can't just plug the thing into the computer and automaticall connect, you have to download and tinker and workaround etc.  Nowdays there are quite a few [fully]  supported cards and that are nice and easy to use.  It's spoiled us. (Or, it's spoiled me anyway.)
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I've used Skype on this laptop successfully before.
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I've been messing around in KMix but I can't seem to fix this issue with it.
[07:02] <Some_ux> soundray: then how do i do it ?
[07:02] <yhell> anybody who knows how to install some plug-ins of gimp
[07:02] <ckin2001> ravihp, try a channel for c programming
[07:02] <soundray> ganes1: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <SuperLag> So... you've tried to install a package, and your dpkg setup is hosed. apt-get -f install does nothing but return the same messages, which also aren't fixable. I'm in an endless loop of dependencies, but don't want to have to reinstall if I can avoid it. How can I fix this?
[07:02] <soundray> Some_ux: like I told you above
[07:02] <vsayikira1> soundray: i am talking about folders and subfolders
[07:02] <magnetron> sometimes when i use the "save as" dialog, the "filename" field will be emptied. it only happens if i choose a different folder for saving. have anyone of you noticed this bug?
[07:03] <soundray> Some_ux: 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[07:03] <cliechti> Tonren: so audacity is also playing well? its just record related? if it recorded you should see the waveform in audacity
[07:03] <vsayikira1> soundray: i need to talk to you privately regarding this matter
[07:03] <Some_ux> soundray: but the target dirs do not exist
[07:03] <Tonren> cliechti: No waveforms are appearing
[07:03] <ravihp> thanks for suggestion <ckin2001>
[07:03] <stefg> !udev rules | Airwulf
[07:03] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, please keep it in the channel.
[07:03] <Tonren> cliechti: But I AM seeing the microphone monitor go up and down.
[07:03] <bch> question: I want to install monit in feisty. Apt-get install would use version is 4.8.1, but 4.9 is available to download as a tarball. How can I make my own package of the latest version for all my servers?
[07:03] <ubotu> Airwulf: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.
[07:04] <deb_user> soundray: http://pastebin.ca/724491 mind taking a look?
[07:04] <vsayikira1> soundray; is it possible now
[07:04] <deb_user> soundray: I don't know if this is an error or not
[07:04] <soundray> Some_ux: your error message above said that they did -- ?
[07:04] <ravihp> /leave
[07:04] <ganes1> soundray:i wcto copy a file from desktop to fylesystem
[07:04] <cliechti> Tonren: check the mixer settings. there are separate settings for looping though the inputs and actually recording them
[07:04] <ravihp> /leave #irchelp
[07:05] <ravihp> how to leave from the room?
[07:05] <soundray> deb_user: I don't know... Try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm', this should recreate your /etc/gdm/Xsession, which seems to be faulty
[07:05] <Some_ux> soundray: well it works, so apparently they did exist
[07:05] <deb_user> soundray: ok
[07:05] <anto> Can somone help me do a step by step installing of the nvidia drivers ?
[07:05] <vsayikira1> soundtray: this is my /media/sda7 partition which after formating had root as owner and group
[07:05] <soundray> ganes1: on the command line?
[07:05] <ganes1> soundray:even i cant able to create a folder in "file system"
[07:06] <Tonren> cliechti: I'm not sure I see what you mean.
[07:06] <stefg> !nvidia | anto
[07:06] <ubotu> anto: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <ganes1> soundray:no..using gui
[07:06] <bch> I want to install monit in feisty. Apt-get install would use version is 4.8.1, but 4.9 is available to download as a tarball. How can I make my own package of the latest version for all my servers?
[07:06] <yhell> help ....how to install gimp plug-ins in ubuntu
[07:06] <bch> sorry for retype
[07:06] <soundray> ganes1: I see what you mean now. Please don't copy stuff to File System. It's reserved for system use.
[07:06] <bch> dang up arrow
[07:06] <Airwulf> ubotu: I know how I can write udev rules. I did it already on Edgy. But on Edgy I had to change somewhere in /lib, /usr/lib.. a umask=077 line to umask=022. But I do not know where
[07:06] <vsayikira1> soundtray: /media/sda7 owner is root and group is plugdev i belong to this group
[07:07] <emet> !build
[07:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:07] <vsayikira1> soundtray: now i created a folder using root account in /media/sda7
[07:07] <cliechti> Tonren: there is usualy a "line in" volume setting on "playback" and one in "recording" section of the mixer. to record you need to modify the later
[07:07] <vsayikira1> but with my account i can delete that fodler, how is it possible
[07:07] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:08] <yhell> somebody expert using gimp in ubuntu
[07:08] <ckin2001> Airwulf, i think it is in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[07:08] <emet> bch: making .deb packages is not trivial and has a pretty nice learning curve unfortunately
[07:08] <vsayikira1> soundtray: how is it possible that my user account can delete a folder created by root
[07:08] <soundray> vsayikira: please spell my nick correctly, otherwise I'll miss your messages. Look at the ownership and permissions of the folder you can't delete.
[07:08] <stefg> bch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206382 might help
[07:09] <ganes1> soundray:in windows v use different drives...but in linux where to store files???drive "file system" has 55 gb. can i reduce it??
[07:09] <yhell> hello....
[07:09] <anto> stefg, that only helps when you got nv or somhting else runing i'm stuck in a terminal
[07:09] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:09] <Tonren> cliechti: Right now, Input->Line is unmuted and at 50% volume, Input->Mic is set to "Record" (you can only set Line In or Mic to record, not both) and unmuted at 100% volume.
[07:09] <yhell> sorry hristo me no idea
[07:09] <soundray> vsayikira1: you can change them with chmod and chown if needed
[07:09] <poningru_> ganes1, store all your files under /home/ganes1
[07:09] <stefg> anto: what card do you have? (lspci | grep VGA)
[07:09] <SuperLag> This absolutely fscking sucks.
[07:09] <hristo> yhell, ^^ :)
[07:09] <anto> geforce 6200
[07:09] <yhell> hristo, u khow to use gimp in ubuntu
[07:10] <SuperLag> apt/dpkg is hosed.
[07:10] <soundray> ganes1: open a terminal and type 'df $HOME'. How much space do you have there?
[07:10] <hristo> yhell, no. sry
[07:10] <SuperLag> and I can't do a damn thing
[07:10] <soundray> !language | SuperLag
[07:10] <ubotu> SuperLag: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <anto> stefg, GeForce 6200 series
[07:10] <yhell> k thanks, hristo
[07:10] <vsayikira1> soundray: see /media/sda7 is owned by root, and group owner is plugdev
[07:10] <soundray> vsayikira1: what's your username?
[07:10] <SuperLag> soundray: what did I say that offended your sensibilities?
[07:11] <vsayikira1> soundray: vsayikiran
[07:11] <Airwulf> does feisty do not use pmount anymore?
[07:11] <soundray> SuperLag: this isn't about my sensibilities at all. This is about civilized behaviour in a channel that many want to use professionally, or in the presence of young people.
[07:11] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:11] <yhell> lowe, di2 ka din pala
[07:11] <ckin2001> Airwulf, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221 for a guide to udev rules
[07:11] <ganes1> soundray:around 62 gb
[07:12] <stefg> anto: sudo apt-get install linux-restriced-modules-generic nvidia-glx-new ... then ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' choose 'nvidia' as driver there
[07:12] <vsayikira1> soundray: then i created a folder test in /media/sda7/test , owner and group owner are both root
[07:12] <ganes1> poningru:ok thanks..
[07:12] <ckin2001> hristo, apt-cache search pppoe - will return various tools for pppoe.  I have no experience with it, however.
[07:12] <soundray> vsayikira1: do this: 'mkdir /media/sda7/storage ; chown vsayikiran:vsayikiran /media/sda7/storage/ ; chmod 755 /media/sda7/storage' Now you can write to the storage subdirectory.
[07:12] <vsayikira1> soundray: these permission i set using xterm
[07:13] <anto> stefg, are those dots any packages that i should know of ?
[07:13] <hristo> ckin2001,thanks!:)
[07:13] <soundray> SuperLag: to get help, you should give more detail about the problem you're experiencing.