[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about post iamges - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <_allz> no luck
[04:42] <_allz> someone knowz what is the site agein iamgeshck.us ?
[04:43] <Kingsqueak> _allz: try this, cd ~/.mozilla
[04:43] <_allz> or iamgeshock.us
[04:43] <NChief> which port does remote desktop us?
[04:43] <Kingsqueak> _allz: is there a 'plugins' directory there?
[04:43] <NChief> which port does remote desktop usw?
[04:43] <NChief> which port does remote desktop use?
[04:43] <NChief> :p
[04:43] <Blue-Steel> 3389
[04:43] <Blue-Steel> or something like that
[04:43] <NChief> ok, can use remote desktop between windows and ubuntu?
[04:44] <Slyth100> Can somebody help me with a problem I keep getting while trying to compile the kernel source??? THis is the error I keep getting - gcc-3.3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep scripts/mkdep.c
[04:44] <Slyth100> make: gcc-3.3: Command not found
[04:44] <Slyth100> make: *** [scripts/mkdep]  Error 127
[04:44] <JoshJ> !vnc
[04:44] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:44] <_allz> no such a file drioctory :S
[04:44] <jrib> NChief: 5900 iirc
[04:44] <_allz> kingsqueak
[04:44] <ivx> sethk, i don't know anything about cups, can you walk me trought it maby?
[04:44] <Kingsqueak> _allz: so you are in .mozilla now right?
[04:44] <kitche> Slyth100: did you install build-essential?
[04:44] <bruenig> Slyth100, have you install build-essential?
[04:44] <Slyth100> Yes
[04:44] <NChief> jrib: iirc?
[04:44] <jrib> NChief: if I recall correctly
[04:44] <_allz> no i am not in mozzilla
[04:44] <_allz> kingsqueak
[04:44] <NChief> jrib: ok, thnx :)
[04:45] <Kingsqueak> _allz: do   cd ~/.mozilla
[04:45] <_allz> kingsqueak  i dont even know where the heck is mozilla in my computer :S
[04:45] <Slyth100> Any ideas?
[04:45] <Kingsqueak> _allz: this is a directory I'm telling you to go ti
[04:45] <bruenig> !info gcc
[04:45] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[04:45] <Zirjoker> what are the most useful terminal based applications (like wget) i want to get the ports for windows
[04:45] <_allz> nope
[04:45] <_allz> kingsqueak  not found
[04:45] <_allz> it says
[04:45] <jrib> NChief: I think we are both right, 5900 for ubuntu's remote desktop and 3389 for window's
[04:45] <bruenig> Slyth100, perhaps version number problems?
[04:45] <bruenig> just a guess
[04:45] <NChief> jrib: ok :)
[04:46] <aj__> i'm giving up on wireless for now but i wonder if others are having same problems i've only seen one post so far
[04:46] <aj__> i have a broadcom 4306 btw
[04:46] <Kingsqueak> _allz: try this      cd && cd .mozilla
[04:46] <kitche> Slyth100: which version of ubuntu do you use?
[04:46] <sethk> aj__, there are tons of posts about wireless problems, and this doesn't sound dissimilar
[04:46] <aj__> oh i see
[04:46] <aj__> sometimes i hate wireless horribly
[04:46] <Slyth100> bruenig and kitche - I use ubuntu 6.06
[04:47] <bruenig> Slyth100, I meant for gcc
[04:47] <Kingsqueak> _allz: you there now?
[04:47] <e3> PHEW i do have a dvd reader. i thought i just burned 4gigs for nothin. sigh. ok. im revved up to do some mean ubuntu installin'.
[04:47] <Slyth100> bruenig - I use gcc 4.0
[04:47] <_allz> kingsqueak :S
[04:47] <_allz> allz@Allz:~$  cd && cd .mozilla
[04:47] <_allz> bash: cd: .mozilla: No such file or directory
[04:48] <bruenig> Slyth100, the error message was complaining about 3.something or other
[04:48] <Kingsqueak> _allz: you are running an installed Ubuntu right?
[04:48] <kitche> Slyth100: for some reason your linux is looking for gcc-3.3 which is usually a symlink to gcc
[04:48] <Slyth100> OK
[04:48] <bruenig> hmmm
[04:48] <_allz> WHAT is wrong?
[04:48] <cpk1> ugg
[04:48] <bruenig> !ops
[04:48] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[04:49] <Kingsqueak> _allz: and you are logged in as your user account right?  The one that runs firefox?
[04:49] <zarul> omg
[04:49] <zarul> its a spam
[04:49] <Zirjoker> !applications
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <zarul> its a war
[04:49] <Zirjoker> !software
[04:49] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:49] <LjL> i saw
[04:49] <LjL> but onfortunately my client gets very lagged when i recieve 100 version requests...
[04:49] <ivx> hey so if i modify the cups conf file, what is the command to stop and start it again? i think i figured this thing out
[04:50] <jrib> ivx: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:50] <Mez> yay they got klined ;)
[04:50] <ivx> jrib thanks, community support is way fast!
[04:51] <zarul> I wonder why anybody wants to flood this channel
[04:51] <VigoFusion> That was wildly unkool, thank you whomever handled the goofs
[04:51] <_allz> kingsqueak if you mean  .the sudo stufff no
[04:51] <_allz> kingsqueak if you mean .i am in my usr drioctory then yes
[04:51] <zarul> should be someone from Mircosoft or Apple
[04:51] <zarul> lol
[04:51] <zarul> JK
[04:51] <jtf0518> and they were from Brazil
[04:51] <Mez> zarul because we have people in here and some people are **************
[04:52] <zarul> yeah..
[04:52] <Kingsqueak> _allz: you are doing something funny here, you *have* to have a .mozilla directory there
[04:52] <Slyth100> bruenig
[04:52] <bruenig> Slyth100,
[04:52] <_allz> okei
[04:52] <_allz> kingsqueak so i should creat mozilla dricotroy?
[04:52] <Slyth100> bruenig - should I edit the top of the make file???
[04:52] <Kingsqueak> _allz: what does   'pwd'  output?
[04:53] <sethk> that looked more like a mistake than a spam, but it's just as annoying
[04:53] <bruenig> Slyth100, no idea, don't compile much myself, not since I began using ubuntu at least
[04:53] <_allz> allz@Allz:~$ pwd
[04:53] <_allz> /home/allz
[04:53] <_allz> kingsqueak
[04:53] <Kingsqueak> _allz: now   cd .mozilla
[04:53] <sethk> Kingsqueak, print working directory.    the current directory   ?  (I know, that wasn't a question, but I couldn't resist.)
[04:53] <boris55> wow. have to register now for ubuntu..
[04:53] <Kingsqueak> sethk: heh
[04:53] <_allz> kingsqueak i dont understand you ! .should i creat mozilla folder ?
[04:53] <VigoFusion> Ok, I am stuck in 650x800 mode? Total newb to Linux/Debian, the autodetect or get-apt or sumo ati is ?
[04:53] <_allz> cause there is no folder called mozilla
[04:54] <_allz> in my /Home/allz/
[04:54] <Kingsqueak> _allz: no, it should be there, not 'mozilla' but '.mozilla'
[04:54] <kitche> _allz: it's a hidden folder
[04:54] <Kingsqueak> _allz: cd '.mozilla'
[04:54] <bruenig> _allz, there is a period in front of the mozilla .mozilla
[04:54] <thrice`> _allz: cd ~/.mozilla
[04:54] <Kingsqueak> thrice`: I tried that already heh
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[04:54] <Maurox> WTF ???
[04:54] <_allz> AWWWWW
[04:55] <Kingsqueak> what's it, Dalnet night?
[04:55] <bruenig> I don't understand why people don't just copy and paste
[04:55] <cfedde> gota love irc
[04:55] <Mez> Maurox, channel is under attack... again
[04:55] <Mez> LjL, we think alike
[04:55] <boris55> why attack this channel?
[04:55] <nick`> ubuntu is too 1337 for them noobs
[04:55] <Kingsqueak> nothing else to do
[04:55] <bruenig> to see if you can
[04:56] <sethk> so much for my theory of it being an accident.  :)
[04:56] <boris55> can't we all just get along?
[04:56] <cfedde> vandalism.  It's a bit like shooting the signs along the highway.  Or tagging bridge abutments.
[04:56] <_allz> lol i know what hack they are using to try to hack this channel
[04:56] <Kingsqueak> _allz: did you get there yet LOL,  'cd ~/.mozilla'  just cut and paste between the  ' 's
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[04:56] <nick`> lol
[04:57] <nick`> idiots
[04:57] <nick`> !kb fejntzj
[04:57] <nick`> durhg
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kb fejntzj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <thrice`> set the channel to force identify
[04:57] <LjL> Mez: yeah except my client is... well
[04:57] <_allz> i think this channel has to have a 10000 bots!! :)
[04:57] <boris55> is #ubuntu+1 channel up and running, yet?
[04:57] <_allz> maybe 6 botts
[04:57] <bruenig> _allz, that is unlikely as there is only 841 people in here
[04:58] <BearPerson> we're working on it
[04:58] <ivx> jrib when i try sudo /ect/init.d/cupsys it says command not found
[04:58] <LjL> !traffic
[04:58] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[04:58] <jrib> ivx: /etc not /ect
[04:58] <kitche> hey it's BearPerson :)
[04:58] <LGKeiz> Uhm
[04:58] <bruenig> ivx, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, make sure the restart is in there also
[04:58] <LGKeiz> What the fuck?
[04:58] <LGKeiz> WHY WAS I GLINED?
[04:58] <bruenig> !ohmy
[04:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:58] <LjL> LGKeiz, calm down. perhaps a mistake
[04:58] <LGKeiz> x.x
[04:58] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz: I think you got mixed in with the attacks
[04:58] <ashzilla> Hi. How can I completel uninstall azureus.
[04:59] <kitche> LGKeiz: Glined you wouldn't have gotten back on
[04:59] <_allz> kingsqueak i know what you are trying to say .but i cant find the drioctory .sorry :S i have done allt he stuff go to the folder and do /home/allz/.m but cant anything with mozilla
[04:59] <bruenig> ashzilla, sudo apt-get remove azureus
[04:59] <LGKeiz> Kitche - I envaded
[04:59] <stiffme1983> apt-get remove --purge?
[04:59] <jrib> heh collateral damage
[04:59] <bruenig> ashzilla, did you install it another way like through automatix which gets the beta?
[04:59] <ivx> oh yeah thanks it worked that time
[04:59] <Kingsqueak> _allz: I don't know what to say, it should be there, there may be something off with your install but I'm not sure
[05:00] <nalioth> LGKeiz: you may resume your regular connection
[05:00] <HLM> bbl
[05:00] <Kingsqueak> _allz: try this   'cd ; mkdir .mozilla'
[05:00] <Kingsqueak> _allz: type that but without the quotes ''s
[05:00] <_allz> then?
[05:00] <Kingsqueak> _allz: k, one sec
[05:00] <bruenig> firefox makes a .mozilla directory if you run it and there isn't one
[05:00] <thrice`> _allz: ls -a ~ | grep -i moz
[05:00] <thrice`> does that give anything ?
[05:01] <_allz> is he right ?
[05:01] <_allz> kingsqueak
[05:01] <Kingsqueak> _allz: yeah, it should have just made the dir when you run it
[05:01] <thrice`> you will not have a .mozilla unless you've ran firefox
[05:01] <Kingsqueak> _allz: that's why I don't understand why it isn't there
[05:01] <_allz> okei it worked
[05:01] <_allz> now what?
[05:01] <_allz> allz@Allz:~$  ls -a ~ | grep -i moz
[05:01] <_allz> mozcontrol.tgz
[05:01] <_allz> .mozilla
[05:01] <bruenig> lol
[05:01] <thrice`> :-\
[05:02] <Kingsqueak> _allz:  mkdir .mozilla/plugins
[05:02] <_allz> then?
[05:02] <iCod> Hey, is anyone really knowledgable on alsa? or has a Createive SB 24 bit?
[05:02] <Kingsqueak> _allz: now, cd .mozilla/plugins
[05:02] <jamesbrink> where is the doc on compiling a new kernel?
[05:02] <Kingsqueak> _allz: type 'pwd' and be sure you are in that directory
[05:02] <_allz> then :P
[05:03] <Kingsqueak> _allz: what does 'pwd' output?
[05:03] <_allz> -> /home/allz/.mozilla/plugins
[05:03] <e3> Anyone Know....     What.... is the terminal command... to switch from Ubuntu 6.10..... to Kubuntu 6.10 DVD for AMD64 processors....??
[05:03] <jrib> !kde | e3
[05:03] <ubotu> e3: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:03] <Kingsqueak> _allz: cut and paste this exactly       for i in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:04] <Kingsqueak> for i in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:04] <Kingsqueak> might be easier to paste that second line
[05:04] <_allz> okei now i dont understand :S
[05:04] <_allz> cut and paste
[05:04] <Kingsqueak> _allz: or type it, but it has to be exactly as I just showed it
[05:04] <ivx> if i don't remember what i neamed my computer how do i check
[05:05] <Kingsqueak> ivx: 'hostname'
[05:05] <ivx> thanks
[05:05] <thrice`> Kingsqueak: why are you having him symlink?  FF will look there natively
[05:05] <_allz> "/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i ." <- is this a command
[05:05] <bruenig> thrice`, what else, copy it over?
[05:05] <_allz> :) i am new to linux .kingasqueak
[05:05] <Kingsqueak> _allz: yes, the *whole* line
[05:06] <jrib> thrice`: ff2.0 in edgy doesn't seem to look in /usr/lib/mozilla
[05:06] <Kingsqueak> all the way to 'done'
[05:06] <VigoFusion> I am useing Gnome desktop, is that why I screen is 600x800?
[05:06] <thrice`> really?  that's odd =\
[05:06] <thrice`> sorry :)
[05:06] <Kingsqueak> thrice`: I had to manually link mine for mozilla-mplayer
[05:06] <bruenig> I think it may look in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[05:06] <Kingsqueak> thrice`: I think the deb is only setup for mozilla
[05:06] <_allz> kingsqueak bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[05:06] <_allz> :Z
[05:06] <bruenig> or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[05:07] <thrice`> _allz: paste your command in here
[05:07] <jrib> _allz: did you forget the "for i" part?
[05:07] <Kingsqueak> _allz: you skipped something, there is no error in what I pasted
[05:07] <thrice`> that you just tried
[05:07] <iCod> Can anyone aid me on input with a Creative soundblaster 24-bit?
[05:07] <rickyfingers> ! xorg.conf | VigoFusion
[05:07] <lifepositive> hi
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <bruenig> _allz, don't try to retype the commands he gives you. Just highlight them, copy, then paste them in the terminal
[05:07] <_allz> -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:07] <lifepositive> I keep getting a "550 failed to change directory" when using Firefox 2.0!  Any ideas?
[05:07] <VigoFusion> Thank you
[05:07] <bruenig> !xconfig | VigoFusion
[05:07] <ubotu> VigoFusion: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:08] <Kingsqueak> _allz: heh you need to put   'for i in '   in front of that
[05:08] <thrice`> _allz: you need the first part:  for i in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in*; do ln -s $i .; done
[05:08] <iCod> anyone? sorry to be impatient
[05:08] <LinuxRush> did omega return?
[05:08] <Kingsqueak> lifepositive: that's a server error
[05:09] <_allz> kingsqueak -> ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:09] <Kingsqueak> lifepositive: coming from wherever you pointed the browser
[05:09] <_allz> this the output :S
[05:09] <rickyfingers> iCod, I think the driver for that was compiled in to the kernel a long time ago
[05:09] <lifepositive> Kingsqueak: whats causing it and whats the solution?
[05:09] <rickyfingers> what's your problem, no sound?
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> I sent my friend a ubuntu cd that I burnt but his computer won't boot off of it
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> is there a reason for this
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> It worked on my computer
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> and his computer can boot from a windows cd
[05:09] <iCod> rickyfingers, i thought so too, yet I have no input
[05:09] <Kingsqueak> bruenig: doesn't need to be root for that btw
[05:09] <LinuxRush> if he does, here's the link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 <[05:09] <rickyfingers> iCod: ok, so you can hear sound, but not record it?
[05:10] <LinuxRush> for broadcom chipset
[05:10] <Kingsqueak> bruenig: and I was just trying to setup the mplayer plugin, the rest should be o.k.
[05:10] <lifepositive> my DVD drive wont read DVD but it still reads Audio CD! Do DVD drives come with 2 lasers, one for reading DVD and the other for reading CD?
[05:10] <iCod> correct
[05:10] <Kingsqueak> lifepositive: I forget what a 550 is
[05:10] <bruenig> I thought you did, maybe because I have never symlinked to the home folder
[05:10] <_allz> kingsqueak -> ; do ln -s $i . ; done            what is next?
[05:11] <Kingsqueak> lifepositive: what is the URL?
[05:11] <rickyfingers> iCod: do you know if you're using ALSA or OSS?
[05:11] <ivx> i am having trouble getting cups working, what else do i have to do besides modify my conf file to what's on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882, add the proper adress on both ends, and restart cups? could my router be blocking port 631 internally?
[05:11] <iCod> alsa
[05:11] <Kingsqueak> _allz: scroll back, you aren't running the full command I told you to run
[05:11] <ArrenLex> iCod: sorry, what's your problem again?
[05:12] <LinuxRush> k. later all. thanks once again for the support, guys!
[05:12] <Kingsqueak> for i in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:12] <iCod> ArrenLex, no input on Creative Soundblaster 24 bit
[05:13] <lifepositive> Kingsqueak: cant recall :P
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: won't it work to just ln -s /usr/lib/...whatever.../mplayerplugin-in* ~/.mozilla/plugins ?
[05:13] <Kingsqueak> lifepositive: well it's the server
[05:13] <ashzilla> Hi
[05:13] <_allz> kingsqueak -> what do you mean you give me -> for i in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in* ; do ln -s $i . ; done
[05:13] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex: dunno, my command will do it for sure
[05:13] <_allz> and i did it
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: yes it will. Just tested it.
[05:13] <ArrenLex> Kignsqueak: sure is easier.
[05:14] <Kingsqueak> _allz: close firefox and start it again and enter 'about:plugins' in it again
[05:14] <lifepositive> Kingsqueak: my DVD drive, it reads audio CD but no longer reads DVD's!  any ideas whats happened?  Do DVD drives come with 2 lasers, one for reading DVD and the other for reading CD?
[05:14] <ashzilla> I was using azureus and deleted a folder before finishing it or removing it from azureus
[05:14] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex: mine is easy too ;-) just have to be used to what it means
[05:14] <ashzilla> and now I get this error
[05:14] <ashzilla> DEBUG::Fri Nov 17 20:13:07 PST 2006  Data Missing /home/ashzilla/Desktop/Mac Dre - Thizzelle Washington
[05:14] <VigoFusion> Oh fugesickles, the documents and info are on XP or at my brothers houes, that command got me right in though, I thank you kindly and shall save to a text file incase any other ever ask and I know what they are asking.
[05:14] <ArrenLex> Kingsqeak: excuse me if I laugh when you say a for loop is simpler than a wildcard.
[05:14] <Kingsqueak> they are if you type them all day
[05:14] <VigoFusion> Back in a bit
[05:14] <rickyfingers> iCod: I'm not too much of an expert on alsa, but I was just checking out a page I googled:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=438831
[05:15] <Kingsqueak> wildcards tend to go wild
[05:15] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: you used one!!!!
[05:15] <rickyfingers> iCod: there's some good info there.
[05:15] <iCod> rickyfingers, I'll look at it
[05:15] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: I took YOUR OWN wildcard, and took it out of a loop! That's it!
[05:15] <Kingsqueak> yeah I guess it's similar
[05:15] <Kingsqueak> I like 'for' heh
[05:15] <ArrenLex> George Bush likes the look and feel of paper? =P
[05:15] <Kingsqueak> actually I didn't know ln took a glob like that
[05:16] <Kingsqueak> now you have me curious, I wonder if the Solaris ln will take a glob
[05:17] <Maurox> mmmmm someone tryed to flood me on private :P
[05:18] <iCod> rickyfingers, oops, I do have input, seems skype just won't work
[05:18] <ashzilla> I was using azureus and deleted a folder before finishing it or removing it from azureus
[05:18] <ashzilla> and now I get this error
[05:18] <ashzilla> DEBUG::Fri Nov 17 20:13:07 PST 2006  Data Missing /home/ashzilla/Desktop/Mac Dre - Thizzelle Washington
[05:18] <Kingsqueak> ArrenLex: inneresting it works on Solaris too heh, just never thought that would work for some reason
[05:19] <ashzilla> Can someone please help me out, how can I get azureus to start and not instantly close upon starting the GUI
[05:19] <coolsax98> Why does my install keep freezing?
[05:19] <rickyfingers> iCod: I have zero experience with skype windows or linux.
[05:19] <thrice`> ashzilla: run it from a terminal - does it give an error ?
[05:19] <iCod> ok, sry to bug you
[05:19] <iCod> anyone have experience with skype?
[05:20] <_allz> kingsqueak -> it is ALIVE!
[05:20] <Kingsqueak> _allz: working now?
[05:20] <_allz> yeah thank you
[05:20] <Kingsqueak> _allz: cool
[05:20] <Kingsqueak> that is the weirdest thing though, I have *no* idea why you didn't already have a .mozilla dir
[05:20] <klerfayt> how do I access ldap://ldap.services.wisc.edu/dc=wisc,dc=edu in firefox?
[05:21] <ashzilla> thrice`:
[05:21] <ashzilla> http://pastebin.com/827152
[05:21] <ashzilla> THis is the error outputed, what do you reccomend I do
[05:22] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: paste or read #
[05:22] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: paste or read hs_err_pid5669.log
[05:22] <Kingsqueak> #
[05:22] <ashzilla> Kingsqueak: where is that file located
[05:23] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: likely in the dir where you started the app
[05:23] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: not sure what HotSpot is
[05:23] <ashzilla> Kingsqueak: what is a command I can use to search for the file
[05:23] <ArrenLex> Kingsqueak: Java compiler\vm
[05:23] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: find / -type f -name <filename>
[05:23] <kitche> well HotSpot is java VM
[05:25] <phuzion> what is the package name for firefox 2.0?
[05:25] <phuzion> !firefox
[05:25] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:25] <ArrenLex> phuzion: it's just firefox. In edgy.
[05:25] <ashzilla> http://pastebin.com/827155
[05:25] <ashzilla> That is the output of the file. Good luck figuring out what it means
[05:26] <ashzilla> I'm telling you
[05:26] <ashzilla> I just deleted this file folder it was looking for
[05:26] <ashzilla> Maybe i can just remake a new folder
[05:27] <phuzion> ArrenLex:  Thanks
[05:29] <bokey> ubotu: =)
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: yeah, no clue from that output
[05:30] <ashzilla> Kingsqueak: how can I remove automatix and everything it has done
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> I've never heard of it, sorry
[05:32] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: from their site you just apt-get remove automatix  but all the stuff it installed you have to remove manually
[05:33] <lifepositive> besides xchat, whats another good IRC client for Dapper please?
[05:33] <Kingsqueak> ashzilla: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Uninstalling_Software
[05:33] <ashzilla> THanks, Kingsqueak
[05:33] <lifepositive> !irc
[05:33] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[05:34] <Kingsqueak> irssi is good if you don't need a GUI
[05:35] <Clin1> Hi room!
[05:35] <Clin1> wow warm greeting
[05:36] <Clin1> Where is everybody
[05:36] <Clin1> mez?
[05:37] <Mez> Clin1, ?
[05:37] <Clin1> yes....
[05:37] <Clin1> please dont ban me again
[05:37] <Clin1> opps shouldent have said that
[05:38] <ashzilla> ashzilla@ashtop:~/.Az$ java -jar /home/ashzilla/.Az/Azureus2.jar
[05:38] <ashzilla> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[05:38] <ashzilla> How can I fix that?
[05:39] <Clin1> Is it a package?
[05:39] <ashzilla> no
[05:39] <ashzilla> it's a jar file
[05:39] <Clin1> then your bound to have errors when (i think installing) Java
[05:40] <Clin1> nvm i dont know what im talking about leave me be
[05:41] <Clin1> Their is no one in here except for mez
[05:41] <mlalkaka> Will Fiesty be including Java now that it is open-sourced? If so, what parts? From what I can understand, only javac and the hotspot vm have been open-sourced -- not the run-time environment. is this correct?
[05:41] <Mez> Clin1, there are people here
[05:41] <Clin1> didnt seem like it at first but ok
[05:41] <kitche> mlalkaka: hotspot vm is the run-time it's jsut missing the classpaths right now
[05:41] <Clin1> Ok, i was wrong
[05:42] <Mez> Clin1, did a shedload of people just join ?
[05:42] <Clin1> Im not sure but i think 2 joined
[05:42] <Mez> hmm
[05:42] <Clin1> my bad 4
[05:42] <mlalkaka> kitche: oh. so when one refers to the JRE (java run-time environment), they are refering to the hotspot vm?
[05:43] <Clin1> Mez, do you know the chanel op?
[05:43] <Mez> Clin1, ? I am an op
[05:43] <Clin1> or did you hack.... :]
[05:43] <Clin1> not on the lices your not
[05:43] <Clin1> license*
[05:43] <Mez> licence ?
[05:44] <LinuxRush> Mez, Mez, i installed the script without any probs. but only one thing is not working: Auto-Join channel on starting
[05:44] <Clin1> il copy it here
[05:44] <Mez> Clin1, links only please, or use
[05:44] <kitche> mlalkaka: the vm is the run-time
[05:44] <Mez> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <Clin1> shhot my nick serv is off
[05:44] <Clin1> il be back
[05:45] <LinuxRush> k. i guess i'll check back later for this issue. later all
[05:46] <Mez> wb Clin1
[05:47] <Clin1> i caant find the dang commaand
[05:47] <Clin1> nvm found it
[05:48] <Clin1> (23:48:08) ChanServ: (notice)      Channel: #ubuntu
[05:48] <Clin1> (23:48:08) ChanServ: (notice)      Contact: jdub << ONLINE >>
[05:48] <Clin1> (23:48:08) ChanServ: (notice)    Alternate: Seveas, last seen: 1 day (7h 0m 2s) ago
[05:48] <Mez> Clin1, please don't flood
[05:48] <Clin1> (23:48:08) ChanServ: (notice)   Registered: 2 years 22 weeks 2 days (4h 50m 22s) ago
[05:48] <Clin1> (23:48:08) ChanServ: (notice)        Topic: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:49] <Mez> sorry Clin1 had to mute you there a sec ;)
[05:49] <Mez> spam ;)
[05:49] <Clin1> why does this channel hate me some much
[05:49] <crimsun> I think it's pretty obvious that Mez has sufficient chanserv privs to have ops in this channel.
[05:49] <Clin1> what ever
[05:50] <Mez> Clin1, it doesnt hate you - just had to stop the spam ;)
[05:50] <Clin1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32467/
[05:51] <crimsun> if you have any doubt as to why he should have such privs, please refer to his Launchpad page. This topic does not need to be discussed further.
[05:51] <Clin1> Wo, mez whaat is that
[05:53] <Kingsqueak> what's a launchpad page?
[05:53] <Mez> !launchpad > Kingsqueak
[05:53] <kitche> !launchpad|Kingsqueak
[05:53] <ubotu> Kingsqueak: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:53] <Kingsqueak> well I see that, you host that site Mez?  I didn't get the odd reference
[05:54] <Mez> kitche, great minds think alike, whats the excuse
[05:54] <meheren> can someone point me in the right direction of how to find out what type of graphics card i have and te install and set up the apporpriate driver?
[05:54] <meheren> it's an ati radeon i beleive... but not sure
[05:54] <Mez> Kingsqueak, all ubuntu people have pages on launchpad - mine, for example is http://www.launchpad.net/people/mez/
[05:54] <Clin1> not me hehe
[05:54] <Kingsqueak> ah o.k.
[05:54] <Mez> Kingsqueak, it shows who I am, what I'm part of etc etc
[05:54] <crimsun> Kingsqueak: he's respected enough in the community to have sufficient chanserv privileges. It was a reference for Clin1 to follow.
[05:55] <JoshJ> that page doesn't show everyone that's an op
[05:55] <JoshJ> i think that page only shows admins
[05:55] <Mez> JoshJ, https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-irc
[05:55] <JoshJ> i was referring to what Clin1 linked
[05:56] <Mez> JoshJ, no  thats cs info i do believe ;) /cs access #ubuntu lists is what tyou should see
[05:56] <Kingsqueak> ah interesting
[05:56] <JoshJ> ah, nice
[05:56] <meheren> how can i find out what type of video card im running?
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> with Ubuntu, can people submit some way, patches to package builds etc. without having to actually own the packages...meaning will they be accepted or is it ultra closed like Debian was
[05:57] <crimsun> Kingsqueak: yes, see #ubuntu-motu
[05:57] <Mez> Kingsqueak, we accept patches - see #ubuntu-motu
[05:57] <Clin1> Hey i do have a launchpaad https://launchpad.net/people/clintchance
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> I do a ton of packaging etc. for the job, don't have a ton of spare cycles to really be on the 'team' as it were but I could likely help when I see things etc.
[05:57] <Mez> !motu > Kingsqueak
[05:57] <Clin1> but not on any teams
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> cool
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> thnx for the info
[05:58] <Kingsqueak> like this distro quite a lot, have spread it all over the building at work...got Dapper on our PXE server now too
[05:59] <crimsun> excellent
[05:59] <shorthorns> Hi
[05:59] <Mez> Kingsqueak, PXE is evil
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> PXE is handy though ;-)
[06:01] <Kingsqueak> we jump a lot of things, even BIOS updates off that
[06:01] <Mez> Kingsqueak, not if you're using netrunner it's not - it's evil
[06:05] <emilia> does anyone know how to change the layout of gaim so that the msn icon for someones contact becomes their display pic instead of having the display pic on the right hand side of their name?
[06:06] <shorthorns> Has someone experienced tearing at video-playback? I'm using working ati-drivers.
[06:06] <fgeller> hi, i'm having problems with running a jar file I exported from an eclipse project, I get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
[06:06] <fgeller> anyone an idea what this is?
[06:06] <kitche> shorthorns: what kind of video is it could be dealing with codecs
[06:07] <SurfnKid> how come when new apps are installed, not all come out on the APPS menu?
[06:07] <hokatichenci> Hm, is there a built in script to handle saving/restoring iptables rules?
[06:09] <barrett9h> SurfnKid: it's a per-package setting to be included or not. It will only happen if the package maker configured it to do so.
[06:09] <ArrenLex> Does anyone know where I would ask if I want to configure how long my router keeps ARP tables?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> barrett9h, yeah i thought so too but not even one package i install goes ont he menu
[06:09] <SurfnKid> must all be cli then
[06:10] <kitche> SurfnKid: what package?
[06:10] <Mez> ArrenLex, look up iptables/ipchains
[06:10] <ArrenLex> Mez: not software -- hardware router.
[06:10] <hokatichenci> ArrenLex, if its not a homebrewed solution I doubt you'll be able to
[06:10] <Mez> ArrenLex, look up your manualthen ;)
[06:10] <SurfnKid> a bunch of calendar packagees
[06:11] <kitche> SurfnKid: did you check under Office?
[06:11] <lufis> I notice that Ubuntu edgy is for 386, but my hardware is 686. There are no alternative 686 kernels in the repos though. Is it already for my hardware?
[06:11] <ArrenLex> hok\Mez: Okay. Thanks.
[06:11] <hokatichenci> ARP isn't exactly a performance killer though so I don't see why'd you need to change it unless you're running into some weird problem
[06:11] <ArrenLex> lufis: the kernel is "generic" and works for everything.
[06:11] <SurfnKid> calcurse (1.1-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> gdeskcal (0.57.1-1ubuntu2)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> gnome-pim (1.4.9-2.2)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar (5.03-2)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-december (4.12-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-february (5.02-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-january (5.01-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-march (5.03-1)
[06:11] <Onwlyix> Hello!
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-november (4.11-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> ubuntu-calendar-october (4.10-1)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> when (1.0.23-0ubuntu1)
[06:11] <kitche> lufis: and 386 and 686 isn't much of a change really
[06:11] <SurfnKid> xcal (4.1-18.1)
[06:11] <Onwlyix> I have a bit of a problem...
[06:11] <SurfnKid> xdkcal (0.9d-2)
[06:11] <SurfnKid> oops
[06:11] <ArrenLex> hokatchienci: I can't wake on lan after my computer has been off for three hours because it's no in the tables anymore.
[06:11] <lufis> ArrenLex: well, yes... but i'd prefer to be running the optimized kernel for my hardware :D
[06:12] <ArrenLex> lufis: I believe the generic kernel somehow has that accounted for or something.
[06:12] <barrett9h> SurfnKid: i'm surprised you were not auto-kicked by that  =]
[06:12] <lufis> ArrenLex: ah, alright
[06:12] <SurfnKid> SORRY
[06:12] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: shoot:
[06:12] <kitche> lufis: generic will pick the best kernel for your hardware
[06:12] <Mez> SurfnKid, please, watch the spam ;)
[06:12] <lufis> kitche: cool,. didn't know that
[06:12] <SurfnKid> barrett9h, hehe i think ive only done that once, plus this twice
[06:13] <hokatichenci> WoL used mac addresses, and arp is for mac/ip resolution i thought
[06:13] <SurfnKid> Mez, yeah, not a good business :P
[06:13] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: what's the prob?
[06:13] <Onwlyix> Well, I downloaded Ubuntu and burned it to a CD wish Imgburn, but it won't boot. It doesn't recognize it as bootable, or it can;t find an OS, or something.
[06:13] <Mez> SurfnKid, the ubuntu-calendar packages are just wallpapers really IIRC
[06:14] <SurfnKid> i see
[06:14] <ArrenLex> Onwlyix: your BIOS is configured to boot from CD first?
[06:14] <Onwlyix> Yeah, I tried that
[06:14] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: you probably burned the image as a fie
[06:14] <Onwlyix> it booted from the hard drive anyway
[06:14] <rickyfingers> *file
[06:14] <Onwlyix> so I disabled the hard drive
[06:14] <Onwlyix> and it said it didn't find anything on the CD
[06:14] <rickyfingers> not as an image
[06:14] <Onwlyix> It works running it from windows
[06:14] <Onwlyix> I get the browser thing
[06:15] <Onwlyix> plus, there's all the folders and stuff
[06:15] <barrett9h> SurfnKid: you should know what a package does. if it is really a gui app that should be included in the menu, and it's not, discover the executable name (try running it from a terminal), and add it manually to the menu.
[06:15] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: ok I'm wrong
[06:15] <_3fg> Hey, I installed EasyUbuntu to get mp3s working, but I can't run it.
[06:15] <SurfnKid> barrett9h, yep thats what ive been doing since
[06:15] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: most defintely a bios setting problem
[06:16] <Onwlyix> How do I fix it?
[06:16] <kitche> !easyubuntu|_3fg
[06:16] <ubotu> _3fg: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:16] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: it's a very bios specific problem
[06:16] <_3fg> kitche: I've done both, they don't help
[06:16] <_3fg> the 11 members of the channel are inactive
[06:16] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: your best bet is just to google for the manufacturer/version of the bios that you have
[06:17] <Onwlyix> k. I have a Dell.
[06:17] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: you should see what version the bios is the very beginning of the boot.
[06:17] <Onwlyix> Ok, I'll do that
[06:17] <Onwlyix> Then just google that along with CD boot or something?
[06:18] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: yes, I think that'd be a good search string.
[06:18] <Onwlyix> k. I'll go ahead and restart.
[06:19] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: one more thing, did you check a setting like "boot device priority" or something like that?
[06:19] <Onwlyix> There were two settings I think that I checked
[06:19] <Onwlyix> that had to do with which boots first
[06:19] <Onwlyix> but it;s definantly a problem with it not reading the CD right
[06:20] <Onwlyix> because I disabled a harddrive boot
[06:20] <Onwlyix> leaving only a CD boot
[06:20] <_3fg> !mp3
[06:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:20] <Onwlyix> and I got an error
[06:20] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: there might be a setting where you actually specify a device as bootable.
[06:20] <Onwlyix> Really?
[06:21] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: yes. A few months ago I was booting dells off cd's all day long for work, so I know it's possible.
[06:21] <rickyfingers> Onwlyix: my memory's just a bit rusty because I haven't touched a dell since.
[06:21] <Onwlyix> WHat should I look for?
[06:25] <blind> Do the beta nvidia drivers support twinview?
[06:25] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: are you in china?
[06:26] <cuijinli> rickyfingers, yes
[06:26] <kitche> blind: use the official drivers since the beta are no longer beta
[06:26] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: I lived in Beijing during the summer of 96
[06:27] <blind> kitche: good call! they in the repos?
[06:27] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: wan't much internet there back then.  What part of the middle kingdom are you in?
[06:28] <blind> how do i know if my (nvidia) card is  legacy or not?
[06:29] <cuijinli> rickyfingers, Nanjing in China
[06:29] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: wan't much internet there back then.  What part of the middle kingdom are you in?
[06:29] <blind> kitche: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx tells me i have the newest versoin..
[06:29] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: oops, I didn't mean to ask that question twice.  That's excellent. I'm glad you're here.
[06:30] <kitche> blind:; there is no package for it
[06:30] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: Are you using Ubuntu?
[06:30] <blind> kitche: oh.. where do i get them?
[06:30] <cuijinli> richiefrich, yes, I am newer.
[06:31] <kitche> blind: from the official site
[06:31] <Clin1> Does any one in the room know where the apache CGI-BIN is? i need it a little.....
[06:31] <blind> kitche: that's a lot of help
[06:31] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: Well, do you need help with something?
[06:32] <barrett9h> blind: well, do you expect him to go to the site to see and tell you?
[06:32] <blind> barrett9h: what site?!
[06:32] <barrett9h> nvidia.com
[06:32] <kitche> blind: it's on the official site there might be a 3rd party repo that has them
[06:33] <Clin1> Does any one reading use apache?
[06:33] <rickyfingers> Clinl: I do.
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> me too
[06:33] <Clin1> Have you used the cgi-bin...
[06:33] <rickyfingers> Clinl: just used synaptic to install it.
[06:34] <Clin1> yep thats whaat i did to and i cant find the cgi
[06:34] <cuijinli> richiefrich, thanks,I can learn it slowly, but my english is poor.
[06:34] <Clin1> cgi-bin*
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> wow... kubuntu on powerpc looks nicer now
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> just upgraded to edgy
[06:34] <ArrenLex> kubuntu owns all.
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> oh yea
[06:34] <kitche> Clin1: you have perl installed?
[06:35] <Clin1> It doesnt come with apache..... oh then thaat may be the reason, whats the package naame if you remember
[06:35] <cuijinli> richiefrich, where are you from?
[06:35] <rickyfingers> cuijinli: I'm from the U.S., but I live in Germany now.
[06:37] <Clin1> my synaptic wont start......
[06:39] <bjv> i have dist upgraded to edgy, my xorg will not start.  nvidia, obviously but nv neither
[06:39] <dibblego> which package is mod_http_proxy in?
[06:39] <bjv> dpkg-reconfig says broken or not fully installed xorg
[06:39] <dibblego> er, mod_proxy_http
[06:40] <bjv> xserver-xorg package includes alot of S3, etc stuff i dont need though?
[06:40] <Clin1> Sorry my people i got to restart
[06:41] <scorp007> which package contains OpenGL headers?
[06:41] <Healot> !find libgl
[06:41] <ubotu> Found: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri (and 76 others)
[06:42] <dibblego> !find mod_proxy_http
[06:42] <ubotu> Package/file mod_proxy_http does not exist in edgy
[06:43] <HL-Onwlyix> I'm back
[06:43] <bjv> xserver-xorg isnt installed because it includes more then i need
[06:43] <HL-Onwlyix> had some nick troubles though
[06:43] <bjv> right ?
[06:44] <scorp007> Healot: do you know the specific package? I'm looking in adept, but can't seem to find it
[06:44] <rcmiv> if I am using nxclient fullscreen, how do I switch back to my native desktop?
[06:44] <Mez> scorp007, what opengl headers (aka what for)
[06:44] <scorp007> Mez: for developing OpenGl applications.
[06:44] <Mez> rcmiv, ctrl + alt + left shift + right shift IIRC
[06:45] <rcmiv> Mez, I'll try it
[06:45] <bjv> should xserver-xorg be installed on most machines ?
[06:46] <Healot> libgl1-mesa-dev >> this prolly the one you need, i build games with this package too
[06:46] <eduhat> is ubuntu any good for security purposes?
[06:46] <tonquin> hi all, can anyone help me configure my network settings?
[06:47] <Whity-> eduhat: yes
[06:47] <HL-Onwlyix> According to google, it should just boot from the CD
[06:47] <Whity-> tonquin: what kind of network?
[06:47] <eduhat> Whity-: allright, awesome!! what about wireless hacking, and WEP cracking?
[06:48] <Clin1> This should be my last q for the night.... What is the package name for perl
[06:48] <Whity-> can't see why not, i've done it on other dist so it should be fine on ubuntu
[06:48] <bjv> ubuntu can run wep cracking tools...
[06:48] <tonquin> Whity:  its just the settings on my laptop... they worked before but they're scrambled now.
[06:48] <Whity-> tonquin: using a router, switch, hub, p2p, what?
[06:48] <HL-Onwlyix> Hmm
[06:49] <e3> Ok this is strange... I installed KDE....and restarted and chose KDE...but it still started in GNOME..
[06:49] <HL-Onwlyix> I have a question
[06:49] <tonquin> in particular, in network settings i have "wireless connection" and a "wired connection"
[06:49] <bjv> but, to ask again,  should most machines have package: xserver-xorg installed ??
[06:49] <Clin1> Please aay one i need to download that then start my upgrafe to 6.10
[06:49] <Whity-> oh I don't know about wireless on ubuntu
[06:49] <Whity-> never used it
[06:49] <Clin1> which should take all night
[06:49] <bjv> because mine was not after edgy dist-upgrade
[06:50] <tonquin> when it worked before wireless was eth0 and wired was eth1.
[06:50] <e3> Whyy....gnome...i dont want gnome....
[06:50] <jsjc> good afternoon guys, I am struggling to configure my new minipci express card that it works easily in backtrack but not ubuntu , do the madwifi dirvers work well on edgy?
[06:50] <tonquin> now there are reversed and wireless doesn't work any more though wired still works and worked before too.
[06:51] <e3> anyone know how to kick this machine into kde and not gnome
[06:51] <HL-Onwlyix> I hear if I doanload a big file normally it can be messed up
[06:51] <ArrenLex> bjv: if you want a gui, you need xserver-xorg installed. If it got lost during the upgrade, install it manually: apt-get install x-window-system-core
[06:51] <tonquin> Whity: so somehow I need to reassign eth0 and eth1 designation for the adaptors.
[06:51] <HL-Onwlyix> but torrenting it keeps it intact
[06:51] <HL-Onwlyix> Is that true?
[06:51] <rickyfingers> e3: think you need kubuntu
[06:51] <HL-Onwlyix> Because it might be the source of my problems
[06:51] <tonquin> Whity: i've tried a few things but so far no go.
[06:51] <ArrenLex> HL_Onwlyix: No. Torrenting avoids strain on a single download server, which can go down and end your download.
[06:51] <e3> i did the kubuntu upgrade via the terminal...but kde didnt load!
[06:51] <ArrenLex> But you can always continue.
[06:52] <ArrenLex> e3: define "didn't load". How far did you get?
[06:52] <bjv> ArrenLex: ok.  doing that now.
[06:52] <eduhat> do i have to have kubuntu to have kde on ubuntu? or can i install kde onto ubuntu?
[06:52] <e3> i started with ubuntu 6.10, then i put some code into terminal as told by some random fellow...and kde seemed to install sucessfully, so i restarted and it asked KDE or GNOME. i selected KDE. it started gnome.
[06:52] <ArrenLex> eduhat: apt-get install kde-core kdebase will get you set up.
[06:52] <HL-Onwlyix> Hmm...  So apt-get remove gnome won't actually remove anything.
[06:53] <tonquin> Whity:  before the "wireless" adaptor was not enabled but the wireless still worked.
[06:53] <ArrenLex> e3: That can be arranged. Hold on...
[06:53] <nekostar> what the f3w4t53w45WQ#$%#@ is wrong with xorg
[06:53] <Clin1> Caan any one tell me where the CGI-Bin is located?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> e3: do what it says. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:54] <nekostar> my compy says i have no nvidia module
[06:54] <nekostar> ~_________________________~
[06:54] <HL-Onwlyix> Yes, I've tried all that. From changing the boot order, to disabling the C: drive. It's not recognizing it as a bootable CD.
[06:54] <eduhat> ArrenLex: well then how could i remove gnome?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> eduhat: if you want to remove gnome completely, go to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:54] <HL-Onwlyix> It works from windows
[06:54] <nekostar> i am currently in irssi and very pissed ~_~
[06:54] <HL-Onwlyix> I get the browser thing
[06:54] <HL-Onwlyix> so the ISO was burned right
[06:55] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, I have no clue, have you booted other live cds before
[06:55] <ArrenLex> HL_Onwlyix: I noticed that my ancient pentium II computer I have sitting in the corner of my room for some reason refuses to boot from some CDs but will boot from others.
[06:55] <nekostar> so very very angry
[06:55] <HL-Onwlyix> No, I haven't. This is my first,
[06:55] <e3> Ok i inserted the line from sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop do i need to do anything else. it seemed to work. will it boot in kde now????
[06:55] <nekostar> nv driver w2orks so is there some new nvidia-glx bug?
[06:55] <asdx> hi, where can i get 6.10 cds?
[06:55] <nekostar> !nvidia
[06:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <HL-Onwlyix> Mine is a Pentium 4
[06:55] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, try burning a xubuntu live cd
[06:55] <rcmiv> Mez, repeat that?
[06:55] <ArrenLex> e3: you can boot KDE without removing anything =P Just change the session in gdm.
[06:55] <ArrenLex> Or whatever dm you use.
[06:56] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok, I'll try that then.
[06:56] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, or order one of the free cds
[06:56] <e3> Session in GDM?! lol... how.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> HL_Onwlyix: do you have any Windows XP cds lying around?
[06:56] <Mez> rcmiv if i remember correctly - its ctrl + alt _ both shifts
[06:56] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, but it takes a while
[06:56] <ArrenLex> e3: what are you in right now?
[06:56] <e3> gnome
[06:56] <e3> ubuntu
[06:56] <HL-Onwlyix> Hmm I think I might have them in a box in the closet.
[06:56] <ArrenLex> e3: log out of gnome. Then, in the screen where it asks for you for a username and password, find some option that say 'setting' or whatever and change it to KDE. And log in.
[06:57] <Pupeno> Hello.
[06:57] <e3> cool!
[06:57] <rcmiv> Mez, thanks
[06:57] <Mez> e3 - you want to run kubuntu ?
[06:57] <ArrenLex> HL_Onwlyix: try one of those. If your computer refuses to boot one of those, chances are the problem is in the computer. If it does, the problem is in the CD.
[06:57] <e3> yeah i wana run kubuntu
[06:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> e3, find session settings
[06:57] <Pupeno> How much space would you give to / (root, all but home) to have Ubuntu installed (including kubuntu-desktop as well).
[06:57] <Mez> e3 - join #kubuntu and i'll talk youn through
[06:57] <e3> k
[06:58] <Mez> Pupeno, one sec lemme, msg you
[06:58] <rickyfingers> Pupeno: i give it 30 gb so formatting doesn't take 4ever
[06:58] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok! I'll try that. AFter that, I'll download and try Xubuntu
[06:58] <starscalling> !nvidia
[06:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <HL-Onwlyix> bbl
[07:00] <ArrenLex> I remember the good old days, when I installed Woody in 100MB...
[07:00] <ArrenLex> Now this brand-new etch install takes 1.8GB. = /
[07:00] <ArrenLex> *sigh*
[07:01] <Pupeno> Thank you.
[07:01] <rickyfingers> ArrenLex: I did a full install of slackware 10.1 on an old old pentium 1 dell laptop with a 1gb hd about 6 months ago.
[07:02] <rickyfingers> ArrenLex: scratch the full - I left out any gui stuff
[07:02] <ArrenLex> rickyfingers: with or without a gui?
[07:02] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:02] <jsjc> anything to solve madwifi problems on edgy?/ anyone had any problems before??
[07:02] <ArrenLex> rickyfingers: ah, but I had x, twm, and mozilla on my woody.
[07:02] <rickyfingers> ArrenLex: touche'
[07:03] <tonquin> any help on resetting my eth) and eth1 designations?
[07:03] <fooshang> Are there any complications with having more than one desktop? I have always used Gnome, but am curious in KDE.
[07:03] <Healot> no complication :)
[07:03] <fooshang> or about KDE i should say
[07:04] <Healot> just increasing disk usage :)
[07:04] <ArrenLex> fooshang: none whatsoever. Be sure to use aptitude when you install KDE so you can remove it easily. aptitude install kdebase kde-core will set you up, then just logout and log into KDE!
[07:04] <fooshang> Ok...thanks!
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Can someone recommend a command which will give me the absolute path to a file?
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> which
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> ArrenLex, try that
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> which mplayer
[07:05] <ArrenLex> nomasteryoda: no, that's only for that which is in my PATH.
[07:05] <HL-Onwlyix> damn
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> ah
[07:05] <HL-Onwlyix> makes me wish dell put a floppy drive in this piece of crap
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> I could boot from it to the CD
[07:06] <ArrenLex> nomasteryoda: I meant any file. Like, "command ../../foobar" = "/home/em/afolder/evil/foobar"
[07:06] <rickyfingers> tonquin: check out this wiki: http://www.science.uva.nl/research/air/wiki/LogicalInterfaceNames
[07:06] <barrett9h> ArrenLex: which file is it?
[07:06] <rickyfingers> tonquin: looks to be possible, but a little tricky.
[07:06] <ArrenLex> barrett9h: any arbitrary file which exists.
[07:06] <barrett9h> but where is it?
[07:06] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok, I have six more CDs
[07:07] <barrett9h> do you want to find it?
[07:07] <ArrenLex> barrett9h: This one appears to be in /home/em/afolder/evil/foobar
[07:07] <Clin1> Has any one successfully installed image::magic on ubuntu???
[07:07] <ArrenLex> barretth9h: I know where it is... I want to pass it to ln -s in a script.
[07:07] <HL-Onwlyix> hmm
[07:07] <tonquin> rickyfingers: i'll check that now.... thx
[07:07] <ArrenLex> Clin1: imagemagick? apt-get install imagemagick.
[07:07] <rickyfingers> HL-Onwlyix: can you boot off any of them?
[07:07] <barrett9h> well, if you know where it is, just pass the full path
[07:07] <HL-Onwlyix> I'm gonna go screw with the BIOS settings
[07:07] <Clin1> Its not in synaptic
[07:07] <HL-Onwlyix> Well
[07:07] <HL-Onwlyix> I can't find my XP cd
[07:07] <Clin1> nut il try thanks
[07:08] <HL-Onwlyix> and I only burned 1 CCD
[07:08] <HL-Onwlyix> I have 6 empty ones left
[07:08] <HL-Onwlyix> should I try again and burn ubuntu to another one?
[07:08] <Clin1> It says its aalready instaalled but the program im using says otherwise
[07:09] <nekostar> eh
[07:09] <rickyfingers> HL-Onwlyix: do you only have one computer? I would try booting the cd in another computer first.
[07:09] <nekostar> omg eh
[07:09] <nekostar> so now i have an api error
[07:09] <HL-Onwlyix> I have one computer
[07:09] <HL-Onwlyix> That's it :/
[07:09] <nekostar> nvidia version and api version are different/????????????????????????????????????????
[07:09] <nekostar> how do i fix this already ~_~
[07:09] <nekostar> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <rickyfingers> HL-Onwlyix: bummer.  No, I wouldn't try burning the same cd image again, if you're low on disks.  But cd's are so cheap these days.  I just bought a spindle of 100 for $35
[07:10] <nekostar> eh that didnt do the trick ~_~
[07:10] <rbil> HL-Onwlyix: have you run md5sum against that ISO and confirmed it matches what is posted on the server you downloaded it from?
[07:10] <nekostar> tried that..........
[07:10] <nekostar> rickyfingers:  thats a lot for cdroms but about right for dvd's
[07:10] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix: try burning at no faster than 16x and with verification
[07:10] <nekostar> great.
[07:11] <nekostar> now SOMEONE please tell me youve solved this bu11sh1t with the nvidia / api drivers not matching!!! !_!
[07:11] <rickyfingers> neko: What do you pay?
[07:11] <ArrenLex> nekostar: what pullshit is this?
[07:11] <nekostar> about 15 or so for cds
[07:11] <ArrenLex> p -> b
[07:11] <barrett9h> SurfnKid: try the menu editor.  I installed gvim (a text editor), and it didn't show up on the menu.  on the menu editor i found out it was just unchecked
[07:11] <HL-Onwlyix> rbil: I tried doing that hash matching thing. I only found a match with one line which was MD4, I think.
[07:12] <HL-Onwlyix> Nekostar, I'm not sure the speed, but I did do verification and it worked.
[07:12] <nekostar> ArrenLex: my nvidia module is version 1.0-8762 my X module is version 1.0.8776
[07:12] <nekostar> super crap
[07:12] <SurfnKid> barrett9h, um yeah i know i could install it i just dont know why i have to every time :(
[07:12] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix:  u trying to install to a dell by chance?
[07:12] <ArrenLex> nekostar: build a new module?
[07:12] <nekostar> ArrenLex:  how
[07:12] <HL-Onwlyix> Ricky: I guess it's worth a shot because I know someone with a spindle of like 50 CDs I can borrow =P
[07:12] <ArrenLex> nekostar: is there any reason why the drivers shipped with ubuntu are not good enough for you?
[07:12] <HL-Onwlyix> Neko, Yes, it's a dell
[07:12] <nekostar> ArrenLex:
[07:12] <nekostar> BECAUSE THOSE ARE FUCKING FAILING
[07:12] <nekostar> ~_~
[07:13] <barrett9h> right click on applications, choose edit menus
[07:13] <ArrenLex> xD
[07:13] <nekostar> i would just use friggan nv but i need my dual mons asap
[07:13] <nekostar> and im NOT happy
[07:13] <nekostar> im very mad.
[07:13] <ArrenLex> I totally just got smacked at the same time in both #debian and #ubuntu.
[07:13] <ArrenLex> nekostar: "failing"?
[07:13] <HL-Onwlyix> Nekostar: Yes, this is a dell.
[07:13] <nekostar> this is the third time that X has been broken
[07:13] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix:
[07:13] <nekostar> get the alternate install cd
[07:13] <rickyfingers> neko: I've got dual mons with two nvidia cards working with default drivers.
[07:13] <nekostar> and install while not hooked up to the net
[07:13] <HL-Onwlyix> The windows CD?
[07:13] <rickyfingers> neko: you want my xorg.conf?
[07:13] <nekostar> and you might have to install more than once
[07:13] <nekostar> rickyfingers: www.inuyasha-lives.org/linux/xorg.conf
[07:14] <nekostar> great
[07:14] <nekostar> now
[07:14] <nekostar> get my nvidia drivers working
[07:14] <nekostar> or tell me how to build a new module b/c the one they shipped is shit and i'll be happy
[07:14] <bjv> xorg runs now with x-win-sys-core,      now i just need my wm.  T_T
[07:14] <nekostar> ~_~
[07:14] <HL-Onwlyix> You mean the CD that came with my computer?
[07:14] <fooshang> Is automatix still around? Or is EasyUbuntu a better alternative? I just want a quick and easy way to get my multimedia codecs.
[07:14] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix:
[07:14] <nekostar> i mean the alternate ubuntu install cd
[07:14] <HL-Onwlyix> I can't find it.   What's the URL you sent.
[07:14] <nekostar> install in text mode
[07:14] <HL-Onwlyix> Oh
[07:14] <HL-Onwlyix> So order a CD from Ubuntu
[07:14] <nekostar> rickyfingers: my website with my xorg backup
[07:15] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix:
[07:15] <nekostar> no
[07:15] <nekostar> no no no no no
[07:15] <nekostar> its up for download.
[07:15] <nekostar> download it.
[07:15] <nekostar> burn it.
[07:15] <nekostar> install with it.
[07:15] <HL-Onwlyix> ok
[07:15] <nekostar> alternate.install.cd.rom.works.with.dells
[07:15] <HL-Onwlyix> ahh
[07:15] <nekostar> trust me
[07:15] <HL-Onwlyix> One more thing
[07:15] <nekostar> i just fought with one yesterday
[07:15] <nekostar> repeatedly
[07:15] <Clin1> Whaat is the chmod level for images?
[07:15] <nekostar> well day before
[07:16] <nekostar> try 777
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Clin1: what do you mean, for images?
[07:16] <Clin1> i did and it wont show up
[07:16] <nekostar> what wont show up
[07:16] <HL-Onwlyix> How would I set up a dual boot so I don't lose windows?
[07:16] <nekostar> sigh.
[07:16] <nekostar> www.utorrent.com
[07:16] <Clin1> hold on aand il give the error
[07:16] <nekostar> install that in windows
[07:16] <rickyfingers> Clinl: you want to make an image available via http? 644 should be fine
[07:16] <nekostar> then defrag
[07:16] <ArrenLex> HL-Onwlyix: just make sure to install ubuntu second. It will set you up.
[07:16] <Clin1>  The requested URL /images/a_logo.gif was not found on this server
[07:16] <Clin1> But it is their
[07:16] <nekostar> then search for ' the ultimate boot cd ' or hiran's toos
[07:16] <nekostar> tools
[07:16] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok...
[07:16] <nekostar> and resize your partition
[07:17] <HL-Onwlyix> Me?
[07:17] <nekostar> then make 3 new partitions in extended type
[07:17] <HL-Onwlyix> I have no idea how to do that.
[07:17] <nekostar> 1. swap 2. boot 3. home
[07:17] <Clin1> 644 ok one min
[07:17] <nekostar> you will during install
[07:17] <HL-Onwlyix> Oh, ok.
[07:17] <nekostar> when it gets to partitions just select your area
[07:17] <nekostar> look
[07:17] <rickyfingers> Clinl: try moving image to <document root> and see if you can view it from there
[07:17] <nekostar> just go to the forums
[07:17] <nekostar> www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:17] <nekostar> extensive documentation there
[07:17] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok.
[07:17] <nekostar> great.
[07:17] <HL-Onwlyix> Thanks for all your help!!
[07:17] <nekostar> now
[07:17] <nekostar> I DONT WANNA REINSTALL
[07:17] <bigfuzzyjesus> nekostar, quit going crazy
[07:17] <nekostar> IM FRIGGAN TIRED
[07:17] <rickyfingers> Clinl: if you can, then it's a problem with the permissions on the parent directory.
[07:18] <nekostar> bigfuzzyjesus: first
[07:18] <bigfuzzyjesus> nekostar, really you dont seem tired at al
[07:18] <nekostar> there is no god and i take offence to anyone who thinks some guy named christ has anything to do with my life
[07:18] <Clin1> wo, some strang crap... Im going to recopy them all
[07:18] <nekostar> i slept
[07:18] <nekostar> im fine
[07:18] <eduhat> hey guys, im using 99% disk space, how can i delete some stuff that i dont need such as gnome, i would rather have kde, or xfce
[07:18] <nekostar> im pissed
[07:18] <Clin1> that should do it but if not
[07:18] <nekostar> ubuntu keeps breaking and im tired of it.
[07:18] <nekostar> eh
[07:18] <eduhat> also, what is the default root password?
[07:18] <nekostar> eduhat: look in forums
[07:18] <nekostar> default root?
[07:18] <bigfuzzyjesus> nekostar, i dont beleive in christ either
[07:18] <ArrenLex> eduhat: there is none. use sudo.
[07:18] <nekostar> there isnt one eduhat
[07:18] <nekostar> sudo su
[07:19] <nekostar> passwd
[07:19] <nekostar> that sets it
[07:19] <nekostar> sudo is used for stuff
[07:19] <ArrenLex> eduhat: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde will help you delete gnome. Didn't I give you this link before?
[07:19] <nekostar> that lets you run stuff that root has to do as your user
[07:19] <bjv> eduhat: i make sure to run 'apt-get autoclean -y' every once and a while
[07:19] <nekostar> supposedly more secure
[07:19] <bjv> my root partition is pretty small, and runs out alot.
[07:19] <nekostar> ArrenLex: yes you did
[07:19] <rickyfingers> eduhat: you can also cheat and do sudo bash
[07:19] <nekostar> in the last few minutes even
[07:19] <nekostar> bjv: i recommend just giving it 9 gigs or so
[07:19] <eduhat> how do i get root?
[07:19] <nekostar> backup /home
[07:19] <nekostar> eduhat: read up
[07:19] <nekostar> kgreat
[07:19] <Clin1> .jex they are all corupt....   Where can I find the alternate install?
[07:20] <rickyfingers> eduhat: just type in the password for the user you created
[07:20] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix: um thats a bit harder
[07:20] <bjv> nekostar: alot of packages? oh i guess i do have both kde and gnome
[07:21] <nekostar> look at the install pages
[07:21] <scorp007> which package contains the manpages for OpenGL?
[07:21] <Clin1> i cant even delete them, what in the world is going on..
[07:21] <nekostar> bjv: ~_~
[07:21] <ArrenLex> eduhat: it's asking for your user password.
[07:21] <rickyfingers> eduhat: you created a user when you installed ubuntu, right?
[07:21] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, forums
[07:21] <eduhat> yes, im root now
[07:21] <nekostar> HL-Onwlyix: try googleing it
[07:21] <nekostar> awe fuck
[07:21] <nekostar> im just gonna reinstall
[07:21] <nekostar> its GOT TO BE FASTER THAN LISTENING TO BULLSH1T
[07:21] <nekostar> l8
[07:22] <HL-Onwlyix> Ok, I found it
[07:22] <rickyfingers> Can anyone here reccomend a good music package?
[07:22] <HL-Onwlyix> thanks
[07:22] <bjv> oh my god. apt, i NEED my window manager back  T_T
[07:22] <HL-Onwlyix> I really appreciate y'alls help
[07:22] <eduhat> what window managers are installed with ubuntu, all i need is kde and xfce
[07:22] <bjv> it says package lwm has unmet dependancies: x-terminal-emulator
[07:22] <nalioth> eduhat: most of them
[07:22] <ArrenLex> eduhat: With ubuntu? Metacity. Kde uses kwin.
[07:23] <nalioth> eduhat: are available
[07:23] <bigfuzzyjesus> HL-Onwlyix, any time come back with more ?'s
[07:23] <bjv> i have xterm installed, that should give me x-terminal-emulator
[07:23] <bjv> but..
[07:23] <eduhat> i need to free alot of disk space, what takes more? gnome or kde?
[07:23] <bjv> if i remove x-terminal-emulator it says: cannot, not installed
[07:23] <bjv> kde takes more, iirc
[07:23] <bjv> i should really remove both, since i use neither.
[07:23] <ArrenLex> eduhat: no one really needs the full suites of either. Remove the applications you don't need.
[07:30] <Clin1> LOL
[07:30] <Clin1> funnny
[07:30] <Clin1> any way WWW is 777
[07:30] <Clin1> :p
[07:30] <nekostar> !upgrade
[07:30] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:30] <nekostar> !etchy
[07:30] <nekostar> eh
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <eduhat> i have like no disk space, so i need to delete a whole bunch of stuff, i think i made a problem in installing ubuntu, because i only have 2.1gb of space on hda3, and there are like 3 other partitions that are random
[07:30] <nekostar> how do u upgrade from dapper up
[07:30] <bjv> x11-common: Conflicts: lwm (<= 1.2.1-1)   .... ~_~
[07:30] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, just go do synaptic and mark for uninstall
[07:30] <rickyfingers> Clinl: i don't think that's wise to have www as 777
[07:31] <cherubiel> !edgy
[07:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:31] <Clin1> what should it be at
[07:31] <bjv> and it just so happens that v1.2.1-1  is the one in the repo...
[07:31] <nekostar> bjv: can i  just replace dapper with edgy ?
[07:31] <nekostar> im cli so i cant look at that cherubiel
[07:31] <nekostar> whats the easy way
[07:31] <nekostar> package // sources edit
[07:31] <nekostar> ?????????
[07:31] <bjv> neko: i just did a dist-upgrade to edgy
[07:31] <cherubiel> nekostar: yes, thats very much possible
[07:31] <cherubiel> !upgrade | nekostar
[07:31] <ubotu> nekostar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:31] <rickyfingers> Clinl: that's like a yodel saying: Is there anyone here who wants to hack my box?
[07:31] <HL-Onwlyix> well
[07:31] <HL-Onwlyix> I'm going to bed
[07:31] <HL-Onwlyix> I'm going to let this download
[07:32] <Clin1> OK, then what chmod
[07:32] <HL-Onwlyix> ngiht
[07:32] <bjv> you just open your apt source.list and change every word dapper to edgy
[07:32] <HL-Onwlyix> see y'all tommorow
[07:32] <nekostar> cherubiel: the edit sources?
[07:32] <cherubiel> nekostar: lynx is a cli browser
[07:32] <scorp007> which package contains manpages for OpenGL headers?
[07:32] <cherubiel> nekostar: links is another one too
[07:32] <nekostar> cherubiel: yes yes and i  hate it
[07:32] <bjv> then run apt-get update, then dist-upgrade
[07:32] <nekostar> yes yes that sux too
[07:32] <cherubiel> nekostar: :)
[07:32] <HL-Onwlyix> I'm taking the boot CD with me to school tommorow
[07:32] <nekostar> ;)
[07:32] <HL-Onwlyix> see if it works
[07:32] <nekostar> ok editing sources
[07:32] <rickyfingers> Clinl: 755 for dirs & scripts
[07:32] <Clin1> thank you
[07:32] <cherubiel> nekostar: edit sources.lst, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:33] <nalioth> !tell nekostar about upgrade
[07:33] <rickyfingers> Clinl: 644 for pics and plain html files
[07:33] <bjv> scorp007:  i think libgl1-mesa-dev
[07:34] <nekostar> doing
[07:34] <bjv> dont let your machine pass into hibernate halfway through your Dapper -> Edgy upgrade, though
[07:34] <bjv> you'll wind up in my boat.  ~_~
[07:34] <nekostar> yes yes nalioth; i hate cli based browsers
[07:34] <scorp007> bjv: Hmm, i think i have that package, but i dont seem to have the manpages...
[07:34] <Shizukesa> Hey, could someone give me a hand? I'm completely new to Ubuntu and decided to give it a try tonight.
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> cli browsers have their purpose - like when X dies and you need to know why
[07:35] <nekostar> lol bjv
[07:35] <nekostar> that sux
[07:35] <Clin1>  You don't have permission to access /images/ on this server  < the chmod 755 did this
[07:35] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: go ahead and ask your question
[07:35] <nekostar> tonyyarusso: my X has never died before
[07:35] <rickyfingers> Clinl: stick sudo in front of chmod
[07:36] <nekostar> tho ive seen it suck for quite a few
[07:36] <Clin1> im in root
[07:36] <Shizukesa> I got the CD, burned it and booted to it on my machine. I selected teh "Start or Install Ubuntu" option, and the progress bar jumps back and forth for a few moments then the screen just goes black.
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> nekostar: Ah - messing with unstable binary drivers killed mine
[07:36] <nekostar> ah that sux
[07:36] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: are you using a 64 bit processor?
[07:36] <Shizukesa> No
[07:36] <tonquin> calling all ubuntu gurus.  I'm a newbie to ubuntu but .... the interfaces setup system in edgy, on my laptop is seriously flakey, brittle and a disaster waiting to happen
[07:37] <tonquin> the key file is /etc/network/interfaces
[07:37] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: let me take a step back.  Which version of Ubuntu did you burn?
[07:37] <RememberPOL> !update
[07:37] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:37] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: just the regular i386 image?
[07:37] <Shizukesa> 6.10 Edgy Desktop x86
[07:37] <Clin1> 777 also denies access wtf
[07:37] <Shizukesa> Yes
[07:37] <nalioth> nekostar: what do console browsers have to do with upgrading?
[07:38] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: anyway it sounds like the livecd isn't compatible with your graphics card.
[07:38] <tonquin> this file is normally locked but... while i was playing around with the settings for the "teminal icon" on the top right of my desktop those changes were being written into this critical file.
[07:38] <Shizukesa> Radeon 9800 Pro?
[07:38] <Clin1> il work on it tomarow, See yawl im upgrading to 6.10
[07:38] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: try installing in text only mode.
[07:38] <Shizukesa> How do I do that?
[07:38] <jsilva> hi all
[07:38] <bigfuzzyjesus> tonquin, how come you dont use dapper LTS
[07:38] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: isn't it an option when you boot off the cd?
[07:39] <Shizukesa> "Safe Graphics mode"?
[07:39] <Shizukesa> I tried that and the same thing happened.
[07:39] <tonquin> bigfuzzyjesus:  well i guess cause edgy is the latest and greatest.
[07:39] <tonquin> i'm not using for anything misson critical
[07:39] <tonquin> just my cheezy laptop.
[07:39] <eduhat> allright, well 88% is used now, what else should i delete? i dont do any sound stuff, no image stuff, all command editors only, no x editors
[07:39] <bjv> man. it would be great if i new how to resize or close a window, with this wm..
[07:39] <eduhat> so anything else?
[07:39] <ArrenLex> How do I make applications look for libraries in an extra folder?
[07:39] <bigfuzzyjesus> tonquin, dapper is most stable... and more support
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Like adding something to PATH, except for libs?
[07:40] <roryy> ArrenLex: set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
[07:40] <tonquin> well anyway i went in a did some heavy pruning on that file .... and all is working now but god knows why.
[07:40] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, if you use no imaging and no fotos/multimedia what do you need all this space for
[07:40] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: I just googled install ubuntu text only mode, and read something that said safe graphics mode is the way to go...
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Nevermind, got it :)
[07:40] <Shizukesa> The same thing happens withe Safe Graphics mode though...
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Added the path to /etc/ld.so.conf
[07:40] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: so if it's still crashing, it's probably not a graphics driver problem like I thought.
[07:41] <Shizukesa> Hrm...
[07:41] <bigfuzzyjesus> rickyfingers, its supposed to be more stable but personally i use text upgrade
[07:41] <eduhat> well, it is nice to have alot of space, plus i need to install nessus, ethereal, etherape, aircrack, kismet, all that stuff
[07:41] <tonquin> in system/administration/networking it currently that NONE of my connections is enabled... even though...
[07:41] <bjv> lwm: Depends: x-terminal-emulator
[07:41] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: I had the same problem, but it was with the 64 bit version of a lot of different install cd's
[07:41] <tonquin> both wired and wireless connections work.
[07:41] <bjv> apt-get remove x-terminal-emulator      -> Package x-terminal-emulator is not installed
[07:41] <tonquin> wow this is all very ...... interesting.
[07:41] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: I had to flash my bios before it would work.
[07:41] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: how come it has a whole bunch of random partitions, like /var/run, /var/lock, /dev, /dev/shm, /lib/modules
[07:42] <Shizukesa> Yeesh...
[07:42] <bjv> package  xterm  is supposed to provide package x-terminal-emulator
[07:42] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: and they all are 128mb
[07:42] <tonquin> there seems to be almost no rhyme or reason to it at all.
[07:42] <bjv> how do i ensure that it is?
[07:42] <nekostar> do te do te dummmmmmmmmm
[07:43] <nekostar> its finishing installing all the new packages ;)
[07:43] <darko3d> well, i'm having some problems intalling AIGLX http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX
[07:43] <nekostar> lets hope that nvidia isnt as broken as it was ~_~
[07:43] <roryy> bjv: i think 'x-terminal-emulator' is a capability, not a package
[07:43] <Shizukesa> Just wondering, this may be a "newbie" question, but I don't have to format the drive to any specification first, do I?
[07:43] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, did you do custom partition or automatic, if automatic i would just leave it alone unless you absolutely need the 128 megs, btw what are using this computer
[07:43] <tonquin> Yikes
[07:43] <roryy> bjv: e.g., the 'gnome-terminal' package provides 'x-terminal-emulator'
[07:43] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, for
[07:43] <darko3d> i'm getting E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[07:44] <bigfuzzyjesus> Shizukesa, no
[07:44] <rickyfingers> Shizukesa: no the format your hd is in currently has no affect whatsoever on the install process.
[07:44] <bjv> roryy: im seeing that, i have a package that lists it as a dependancy
[07:44] <darko3d> when i try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[07:44] <bjv> roryy: i have xterm installed, but something is wrong?
[07:44] <nekostar> o.o whats air-core ??
[07:44] <roryy> bjv: what are you trying to do ?
[07:45] <Shizukesa> Hey! I just set my BIOS to the "Optomized Defaults", tried the "Safe Graphics" mode and it works! :D
[07:45] <bjv> apt-get install lwm gets me: The following packages have unmet dependencies.        lwm: Depends: x-terminal-emulator       E: Broken packages
[07:45] <nekostar> ah
[07:45] <bjv> install lwm
[07:45] <Shizukesa> Cool, thanks for the help guys. :)
[07:45] <nekostar> try installing x-terminal-emulator
[07:45] <nekostar> it gives you lots of options
[07:45] <nekostar> like xterm
[07:45] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: i did an automatic partition, and yes, this is the computer im using
[07:45] <nekostar> which is nice and doesnt have a lot of dependancies
[07:46] <ArrenLex> I want to make a screen capture movie. What should I use?
[07:46] <bjv> Reading state information... Done
[07:46] <bjv> xterm is already the newest version.
[07:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, what are you using the computer for
[07:46] <roryy> bjv: hmm. what does 'apt-cache show xterm|grep Provides' say?
[07:46] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: wireless stuff, security stuff
[07:46] <bjv> Provides: x-terminal-emulator
[07:46] <bjv> :|
[07:46] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: WEP cracking, the list goes on
[07:46] <tom47> Shizukesa did you run the check cd option to make sure the cd is ok?
[07:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> aer you planning on using it at all for productivity at all
[07:47] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: productivity?
[07:47] <roryy> bjv: hmm, i get an error if i simulate a lwm installation to. let me take a quick look...
[07:47] <sn00p|> Hello Is there microsd reader support in ubuntu?
[07:47] <Shizukesa> Yeah, it's all fine now.
[07:47] <roryy> bjv: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:48] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: productivity? what do you mean productivity?
[07:48] <bigfuzzyjesus>  eduhat nvm
[07:48] <Shizukesa> I just had to reset my BIOS to the optomized defaults.
[07:48] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: okay
[07:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, like email web browsing norm use
[07:48] <bjv> roryy: just upgraded to edgy
[07:48] <eduhat> well, no email, but yes web browsing with firefox
[07:49] <roryy> bjv: i get that x11-common conflicts lwm when I do 'aptitude -s install lwm'
[07:49] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, have you though about installing server install and putting fluxbox on it, you would get more space, little proc usage, and you would only install what you want.... it wouldnt be easy if your not that familier but probably best for what your using your pc for
[07:50] <cherubiel> eduhat: i prefer windowmaker
[07:50] <roryy> bjv: my guess is either 1) the lwm provided in edgy is out of date or 2) there's a packaging bug in x11-common
[07:51] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: sounds amazing, but server install? what is that??? also, i've tried fluxbox in the past, it was okay, but i had no idea how to customize, but yes i would love to use fluxbox, but what is the server install thing?
[07:51] <bjv> roryy: if install both lwm and xterm at once, i get the x11 versioning error.   installing lwm solo i get the xterm error
[07:51] <e3> Wow KDE is looking nice... I have not ran this version before... Very nice...
[07:51] <sn00p|> Hello Is there microsd reader support in ubuntu?
[07:51] <ArrenLex> e3: KDE owns all.
[07:51] <bjv> roryy: that makes me think the edgy lwm package is borked, but that's just guessing.
[07:52] <e3> I uninstalled all of GNOME and it killed some apps i really liked. ><
[07:52] <roryy> bjv: maybe you can try rxvt instead
[07:53] <ArrenLex> e3: then put them back.
[07:53] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that microsd reader shows up like a disk drive
[07:53] <ArrenLex> e3: apt-get install <app>
[07:53] <e3> while Installing KDE and removing GNOME..... somehow... my startmenu says i still have all my GNOME programs installed.....
[07:53] <roryy> bjv: although note that xserver-xorg and lots of other moderately important looking X bits depend on x11-common
[07:53] <e3> I dont know what i really have installed or not....its very confusing.
[07:54] <bjv> simulating a removal of x-terminal-emulator should remove (all) installed terms?
[07:54] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, server install is basically ubuntu with no graphical interface(you pick your own), and no packages (you install them your self), it would not be easy and would probably be alot of learning but it would be the best option for what you want and and a better understanding of linux/ubuntu/fluxbox, so there really isnt a downside
[07:54] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, no it doesn't its internal in a laptop
[07:54] <roryy> bjv: hrm, i don't know; let me try
[07:54] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: allright, that sounds good, but how would i do this server install?
[07:55] <roryy> bjv: no, if I simulate a purge of x-terminal-emulator, aptitude says it would do nothing
[07:55] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: first thing to do is dmesg | less
[07:55] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: and see if it says anything about the microsd:
[07:55] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, you can download it off of the ubuntu servers
[07:55] <eduhat> okay
[07:55] <roryy> bjv: if you're up to compiling etc, maybe it's worth trying to get lwm from source
[07:55] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, just a second
[07:55] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: actually, before that, do lspci and see what the real device name is for the microsd
[07:55] <sn00p|> ok
[07:56] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: and then look through dmesg | less for a match.
[07:56] <roryy> bjv: or, if you're not specifically wanting lwm, using an alternate light-weight wm (I believe there are several)
[07:57] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: how big is this server install?
[07:57] <bjv> roryy: yeah, im using somethign called wm2 because it was roughly the same light-ness
[07:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, not very, i dont know the numbers but it is bare bones
[07:57] <darko3d> /dev/hdb1   ?           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:57] <darko3d> /dev/hdb2            2551        4997    19655527+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[07:57] <darko3d> /dev/hdb5            2551        4997    19655496    b  W95 FAT32
[07:58] <darko3d> guys, when i try to mount hdb1
[07:58] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it just says Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices
[07:58] <e3> KDE's AddRemove says democracy player is not supported.. is it ok to run?
[07:58] <darko3d> i get Failed to mount '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory
[07:58] <eduhat> bigfuzzyjesus: oh okay, so that lets me install only necesary packages and what ever window manager i want?
[07:58] <e3> btw democracy player is supported by gnome..i think..
[07:58] <roryy> hrm, is it just me, or is search for bugs on launchpad complicated?
[07:59] <darko3d> can anybody help me with this???????
[07:59] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, then it says Ricoh Co SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPRO host adapter
[07:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> eduhat, yes but there is no gui until you install your window manager it is all command line
[07:59] <Flannel> roryy: it's better than bugzilla ;)  but it's the nature of bug trackers
[07:59] <nekostar> sigh
[07:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> !server install
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about server install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <eduhat> well i g2g, gunna get that server install going :D later
[07:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> !server
[07:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[07:59] <eduhat> thx for the help bigfuzzyjesus
[07:59] <Flannel> eduhat: you might want the alternate CD, rather than server
[07:59] <nekostar> bigfuzzyjesus: whats the q about the server  install ?
[07:59] <nekostar> yeah
[07:59] <nekostar> alternate cd >> server install
[08:00] <eduhat> Flannel: alternate?
[08:00] <nekostar> alternate.
[08:00] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: ok so now we're on to something.
[08:00] <bjv> im interested in how to strip out gnome as well.
[08:00] <nekostar> well
[08:00] <nekostar> start with installing gnome-core
[08:00] <nekostar> and x-window-system-core
[08:00] <nekostar> mm
[08:00] <eduhat> what is the alternate cd install?
[08:00] <Flannel> eduhat: yeah.  If you install the server install, you'll need to switch kernels back to desktop (it hasit's own server kernel, not really suitable for desktop use)
[08:00] <roryy> Flannel: hrm, i take it back; it only returned one (matching) search result this time
[08:00] <darko3d> guys, when i try to mount hdb1, i get Failed to mount '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory even tho fdisk -l shows me that hdb1 exist
[08:00] <nekostar> Flannel:
[08:00] <darko3d> what should i do
[08:00] <bjv> gnome core will just take down the gui? i thought that knocked down a bunch of the gnome apps too
[08:00] <roryy> darko3d: what is the exact command you're using?
[08:01] <nekostar> actually you also have to remove that kernel for server as well
[08:01] <nekostar> it tends to mess things up a bit
[08:01] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: bad news http://www.leenooks.com/Ricoh+Co+Ltd+R5C8xx+SD%252fMMC%252fMS%252fMSPro%252fxD%252fSC+Card+reader
[08:01] <nekostar> bjv: the whole point is it installs what is really needed for gnome to work
[08:01] <darko3d> i followed the command on here: http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[08:01] <rickyfingers> the card reader doesn't look to be supported.
[08:01] <nekostar> and you just install app by app what you really use
[08:01] <nekostar> works great
[08:01] <nekostar> can get gnome done in about a gig
[08:01] <Flannel> eduhat: which is why it's usually easier to grab the alternate CD, and install that 'server' (GUI less desktop)
[08:01] <nekostar> or 1.3
[08:01] <nekostar> with a bunch of stuff
[08:01] <nekostar> keeps the bloat down
[08:01] <nekostar> and the speed upwards
[08:01] <eduhat> allright
[08:01] <nekostar> but
[08:01] <eduhat> thx for the help guys
[08:01] <nikosapi> hello, I'm having trouble authoring a dvd that plays in my dvd player. Can someone help (I'm using dvdauthor and growisofs)?
[08:02] <nekostar> why not look at blackbox or fluxbox instead there
[08:02] <nekostar> that runs real fast
[08:02] <nekostar> or even enlightenment
[08:02] <bjv> nekostar: i dont have gnome-core installed...
[08:02] <sn00p|> richiefingers that was like almost 4 months ago
[08:02] <nekostar> what do you have installed atm bjv
[08:02] <bjv> nekostar: kde and gnome.
[08:02] <nekostar> nikosapi:
[08:02] <darko3d> this is the command sudo mount -a
[08:02] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: maybe not, it says it works from kernel 2.6.17 it works
[08:02] <nekostar> search the forums for toram
[08:02] <nekostar> or dvd avi how to
[08:02] <Flannel> nekostar: please stop using the enter key as punctuation.
[08:02] <nekostar> or
[08:02] <nekostar> search for user starscalling
[08:03] <nekostar> and its in the last few threads that ive posted in on the forums
[08:03] <roryy> darko3d: have you created a mount point ? (something like /media/hda1) ?
[08:03] <nekostar> eh
[08:03] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: but I'm running latest edgy for 64 bit and I've got kernel version 2.6.15
[08:03] <nekostar> you know Flannel
[08:03] <nekostar> this channel is mostly useless most of the time
[08:03] <sn00p|> rickfingers yea so am I
[08:03] <darko3d> yes, i made /media/hdb1
[08:03] <nekostar> and there has never been a group of mods so bitchy as ubuntu's
[08:03] <darko3d> width mkdir
[08:04] <nekostar> not even gentoo's ops are that bad ~_~
[08:04] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it says SD and MMC cards work starting from 2.6.17
[08:04] <darko3d> it's the dev/hdb1 that aprantly doesn't exists
[08:04] <Flannel> nekostar: what's you're point?  You're talking like two or three words a line.  It's annoying and spammy.  Please stop.
[08:04] <roryy> darko3d: great.   I'd have thought it would auto-detect
[08:05] <nekostar> !ops testing
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops testing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <bigfuzzyjesus> nekostar, you are just trying to start a flame war
[08:05] <nekostar> no
[08:05] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I have 2.6.17
[08:05] <darko3d> it's ntfs
[08:05] <nekostar> if i was trying to do that i would start by talking about how ubuntu is fucking up debian
[08:05] <bjv>  apt-get remove gnome-core -s                  Package gnome-core is not installed, so not removed
[08:05] <nekostar> but im not am i ~_)~
[08:05] <roryy> darko3d: ok, let's try   'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'
[08:06] <darko3d> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[08:06] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: then try modprobe -l | less and see if it looks like a module's already loaded.
[08:06] <Flannel> !language | nekostar
[08:06] <ubotu> nekostar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:06] <nikosapi> nekostar: I don't want to use a gui, this is for an automated script.
[08:06] <nekostar> mm you need a mount line for ntfs ?
[08:06] <roryy> darko3d: hmm
[08:06] <nekostar> o sweet nikosapi what kinda script?
[08:06] <roryy> darko3d: how about 'ls -l /dev/hdb1' ?
[08:06] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: doh - never mind it's supposed to be compiled in the kernel, right?
[08:06] <sn00p|> yea
[08:06] <e3> Help.... Democracy Player isnt loading. it's supported by GNOME (im running kde), so should i install some kind of gnome library????
[08:06] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: now just look through dmesg and say if there's anything about the rioch
[08:06] <nikosapi> that burns dvds from files on my laptop/server
[08:07] <darko3d> ls: /dev/hdb1: No such file or directory
[08:07] <nekostar> eh still look at that thread
[08:07] <nekostar> the cli version is really powerful
[08:07] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I have its already there
[08:07] <nekostar> and it has a lot of info about the stuff your mentioning btw
[08:07] <Flannel> e3: democracy is under package management, which means any dependencies it has are already installed
[08:07] <roryy> darko3d: I'm not sure what's happening here.  Also, I see there's a question mark in the output of fdisk -l you put up earlier
[08:07] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: ok so what node it it attach the device to /dev/sd?
[08:07] <nekostar> good place to start anyway iwould say......
[08:07] <sn00p|> just a second let me check
[08:07] <darko3d> yeah, that's right
[08:07] <e3> So why isnt democracy running? I click it and it flashes and closes.
[08:08] <darko3d> is there something i should do
[08:08] <rickyfingers> e3: maybe your in an authoritarian country?
[08:08] <nekostar> darko3d: are you sure your using ide hard drives and not sata?
[08:09] <bjv> oh, *that* was something else that i thought was really weird when i moved to Edgy..
[08:09] <bjv> "linux-k7 - Obsoleted by: linux-generic"    ???
[08:09] <e3> I use democracy player every day. i just installed Kubuntu from Ubuntu and now democracy wont run.
[08:09] <Flannel> e3: run it from the console, it'll (in theory) give you an error messag
[08:09] <darko3d> lol, i don't know what that means?
[08:09] <roryy> darko3d: sorry, i'm afraid I don't know.  'man fdisk' doesn't say much about the output of fdisk -l
[08:09] <bjv> what's up with that?
[08:09] <Da^Ms7> Hi!
[08:09] <Flannel> bjv: there's only a generic kernel now.  It loads at runtime all the optomizations
[08:09] <nekostar> eh thats wierd indeed ~_~
[08:09] <bjv> mind == blown.
[08:09] <nekostar> kernel == bloat ?
[08:09] <nekostar> and how big is that Flannel ??
[08:10] <Flannel> nekostar: it's same size as the other kernels
[08:10] <Da^Ms7> Ey, guys really need some help here...
[08:10] <Flannel> !ask | Da^Ms7
[08:10] <ubotu> Da^Ms7: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:10] <nekostar> Da^Ms7: just ask instead of asking to ask ;)
[08:10] <bjv> !linux-generic
[08:10] <ubotu> linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:10] <darko3d> is there's anything i can do
[08:10] <rickyfingers> Da^Ms7: what's your question?
[08:10] <e3> O
[08:11] <e3> I'm not sure how to run democracy from the console..or where the console hides itself in kde...
[08:11] <bjv> it calls itself konsole in kde
[08:11] <roryy> darko3d: i'm out of ideas; you can try asking here again when different people are on, or try the forums or users' mailing list
[08:11] <rickyfingers> e3: if memory serves it's under system tools, or utilities
[08:11] <nekostar> e3 console is in utilities
[08:11] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, grr I cant find it no more in dmesg|less
[08:11] <nekostar> well its called konsole
[08:11] <e3> k. now to run democracyplayer... eh.. not sure how to do that.
[08:12] <bjv> konsole is shiny, but bloated like all k apps
[08:12] <what_if> :)
[08:12] <nekostar> konsole is not that great... go go xterm
[08:12] <darko3d> thanks roryy, but since u're on, i have some other questions, if you don't mind
[08:12] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: try this type / in less and then something like rioch
[08:12] <Da^Ms7> Tried installing beryl and it got ?&%%" up. Now i cant get gnome to startup. I guess cuz beryl aint working proper and i did put it in startup session. How do i remove it from there?
[08:12] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: then it'll jump to the line that mentions the rioch
[08:12] <what_if> how do I install ubuntu on a computer with an nvidia card ? the display is garbage everytime and I cannot find a fix online
[08:12] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, dmesg / less ricoh?
[08:12] <Flannel> Da^Ms7: try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[08:13] <Da^Ms7> nah just wanna remove the startup
[08:13] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: actually, how about dmesg | grep -i rioch
[08:13] <bjv> what_if: during the install?
[08:13] <chalcedony> i have an hp lazerjet that needs to direct interface to my husband's ubuntu box. What i need is a print share utility to allow other computers on the lan to connect to his box and then to the printer.
[08:13] <nekostar> anyone else have mass locale failings on updating to edgy?
[08:13] <what_if> bjv: yes
[08:13] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, nothing in there
[08:13] <e3> how do i make terminal not go away when i open a program set to load in terminal....
[08:13] <sn00p|> so I have to find drivers for it?
[08:13] <bjv> what_if: what nvidia card?
[08:13] <what_if> bjv: tried amd64 and i386
[08:13] <nekostar> chalcedony: to set up a print server even?
[08:13] <roryy> darko3d: ask away; either I or someone else will try to answer
[08:13] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: no dmesg just tells you if the kernel detects the hardware
[08:14] <what_if> bjv: 6800 gs
[08:14] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, lspci shows it , but dmesg doesn't
[08:14] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: if you do modprobe -l it'll tell you whether or not the module (driver) is already running
[08:14] <bjv> what_if: is it a dell LCD monitor or something?
[08:14] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: but I don't think it runs as a module, I think it's probably compiled into the kernel.
[08:14] <what_if> bjv: also tried vga=770 and xforcevesa
[08:14] <what_if> bjv: no, crt
[08:15] <what_if> bjv: only happens with ubuntu, other distros (suse, knoppix, gentoo) work fine
[08:15] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: the thing is you don't know whether or not support for the hardware was compiled into your kernel, without looking at the .config that was used to build your kernel
[08:15] <nekostar> wow.... lots of modules running.........
[08:15] <bjv> what_if: 6800gs should be supported very well as just a vga card to the ubuntu install
[08:15] <darko3d> how do i get ubuntu to do this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
[08:15] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I'm just using the stock kernel that it came with the installation
[08:15] <darko3d> i was told to use beryl
[08:15] <what_if> bjv: agreed but the installer tries to use the"nv" driver
[08:15] <nekostar> darko3d: what is that a vid of?
[08:15] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: if memory serves, you can get that .config by installing kernel sources
[08:16] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: or kernel headers.
[08:16] <Da^Ms7> So how do I do to remove apps from gnome startup from the terminal? Cant be that hard?
[08:16] <what_if> what_if: can I force the installer to use the "vesa" driver ?
[08:16] <darko3d> a ubuntu user, showing some of the features
[08:16] <nekostar> what_if: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:16] <darko3d> actually this is the vid that made me wanna use ubuntu
[08:16] <Kream> hi all
[08:16] <what_if> nekostar: ok.....
[08:17] <bjv> im pretty sure it's a bitch to configure gnome from the term.
[08:17] <rickyfingers> Da^Ms7: why not just use add/remove applet under applications?
[08:17] <what_if> nekostar: do what ?
[08:17] <skroll> It seems no matter how much spam I train for bogofilter in evolution, it never actually detects junk, even with the plugin turned on.  Any idea what's causing this?
[08:18] <Da^Ms7> rickyfingers: i cant even get in
[08:18] <darko3d> i've been told to download beryl and emerald, how do i do that?
[08:18] <roryy> !beryl | darko3d
[08:18] <ubotu> darko3d: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:19] <roryy> darko3d: i think #ubuntu-xgl is where you want to ask about beryl
[08:19] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, where is the .config file
[08:19] <darko3d> 10x
[08:19] <Da^Ms7> rickyfingers: beryl fucked up my boot, cuz i added it for autostart
[08:19] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: give me a second, I'm going to install the sources myself, and then I'll tell you exactly where
[08:19] <Da^Ms7> using only textbased now :(
[08:19] <sn00p|> ok
[08:20] <defrysk> runs great :)
[08:20] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: but if memory serves its in /usr/src/.config
[08:20] <what_if> so... anybody, any ideas on how to install to a GF card ? anyone else having this problem ?
[08:21] <Kream> I'm migrating a gateway that shares a ppp0 connection from Gentoo to Ubuntu. Is there a step by step howto like there is at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml to get iptables up and running ?
[08:21] <bjv> what_if: i have had no problems on an older geforce, and would expect newer ones to work exactly the same
[08:21] <bjv> same driver, for all of em.
[08:22] <what_if> bjv: yeah, that would've be nice :)
[08:22] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, is there a webpage I can go and see how to build a new kernel I got laptop 64bit
[08:22] <bjv> oh my god, why is this GTK app behaving so *awesome*?!
[08:22] <chalcedony> nekostar: yes to set up a printserver on the box (printer is old, not working as a network printer)
[08:22] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, its in /boot
[08:23] <bjv> they improved the file-select/save dialog in GTK?! :)
[08:23] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/.config
[08:23] <sn00p|> there wasn't one in there
[08:23] <sn00p|> I looked in the /boot
[08:23] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: did you look there?
[08:24] <rickyfingers> in /usr/src/<your kernel version>/.config
[08:24] <bjv> i can finally jump up the tree more then one level at a time, in GTK when selecting a new file to save to
[08:24] <cypher1> anyone using gmailfs here ?
[08:24] <bjv> man, edgy has great software included. ;p
[08:24] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, yep it says CONFIG_YENTA_RICOH=y
[08:25] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: ok then what node it gets attached to at startup has got to be in dmesg
[08:25] <bingnet922> Hi channel! I'm having a strange problem (edgy): I can't login! At login screen I enter correct credential and I am slowly returned to login screen with NO ERROR! .xsession-errors says "open: permission denied" and I can login to command line console as user or startx as root.
[08:25] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: would you mind pastebining me your dmesg
[08:25] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, its not , i'm worried there is two /usr/src /linux dirs one is for generic and  one is plain
[08:25] <sn00p|> sec
[08:26] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: that's ok, the different directories are there for when you boot off different kernels
[08:26] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I cant paste very well with my laptop
[08:26] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: every time you make install a new kernel, it'll put another directory tree there
[08:27] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: just do this: dmesg > dmesg-output
[08:27] <sn00p|> ok
[08:27] <sn00p|> I was just going to ask that
[08:27] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: that'll dump everything into a file
[08:28] <sn00p|> you got a email?
[08:28] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: actually, then I think you can just transfer me the file via the irc client.
[08:28] <sn00p|> acutally wait
[08:29] <bjv> how do i doubly ensure that virtual package x-terminal-emulator is present on my system
[08:29] <cypher1> bjv, u can search for it isnt it ?
[08:30] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, http://pastebin.com/827194
[08:30] <bjv> dpkg -l | grep x-terminal-emulator      equals nothing
[08:31] <reklez> i have problems installing.  could it be my motherboard?
[08:31] <reklez> it stalls when looking for video or something like that.
[08:31] <bingnet922> Hi channel! I'm having a strange problem (edgy): I can't login! At login screen I enter correct credential and I am slowly returned to login screen with NO ERROR! .xsession-errors says "open: permission denied" and I can login to command line console as user or startx as root.
[08:32] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, find anything?
[08:32] <bjv> apt-get install x-terminal-emulator, Package x-terminal-emulator is a virtual package provided by: [cut, long list including xterm]  You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:32] <bjv> dpkg -l | grep xterm       returns: ii  xterm
[08:33] <hipitihop> Can someone please tell me how to stop and start the NFS service
[08:33] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: still looking. what is the address on the pci bus for the rioch?
[08:33] <sn00p|> let me check
[08:34] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I'm thinking it might be /dev/sg0
[08:34] <chalcedony> i have an hp lazerjet that needs to direct interface to my husband's ubuntu box. What i need is a print share utility to allow other computers on the lan to connect to his box and then to the printer.
[08:34] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it really doesn't say what address it just has 03:09.1
[08:34] <chalcedony> he's running dapper
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> chalcedony: cups can provide that, and you can enable it from the printer dialog.
[08:35] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, everytime I put in my microsd sandisk drive ubuntu seems to crash
[08:35] <chalcedony> fyrestrtr: kewl ty :) any pointers?
[08:35] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I've found where in dmesg it detects the hardware.
[08:35] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, yea?
[08:35] <bingnet922> Hi channel! I'm having a strange problem (edgy): I can't login! At login screen I enter correct credential and I am slowly returned to login screen with NO ERROR! .xsession-errors says "open: permission denied" and I can login to command line console as user or startx as root.
[08:35] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: sdhci: SDHCI controller found at 0000:03:09.1 [1180:0822]  (rev 19)
[08:36] <sn00p|> yea I saw that too
[08:36] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: now, right above that, it mentions a generic scsi at /dev/sg0
[08:36] <sn00p|> just as you figured
[08:36] <sn00p|> lol
[08:36] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: so that could be the disk
[08:37] <sn00p|> the question is how to I mount it
[08:37] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: but if ubuntu is crashing when you put the media in, first thing is turn off automounting.
[08:37] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: it should just be mount -t vfat /dev/sd0 /mnt
[08:37] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, how do I turn of automounting?
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> chalcedony: the wiki has some information on it if you get stuck.
[08:38] <bjv> bingnet922: have you ever been able to log in to Edgy?
[08:38] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: give me a sec.
[08:38] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, yea it crashes right away when I turn it on says exact same address you mention
[08:39] <fyrestrtr> chalcedony: samba + cups will help you if you other clients are Windows machines.
[08:39] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I have hal  installed if that consists part of the problem
[08:39] <loca|host> anyone know a good windows's cain sniffer replacement on ubuntu ?
[08:39] <chalcedony> fyrestrtr: ty much we are almost all ubuntu house :)
[08:40] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: System->Preferences->Removeable Drives And Media
[08:40] <SperMite> Gnight all godbless..
[08:40] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, ok just a sec I had to take battery out of my laptop
[08:40] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: uncheck all the stuff for removeable media
[08:40] <sn00p|> give me a minute
[08:40] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, you running ubuntu 64 on a laptop to?
[08:41] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: nay, I'm running ubuntu 64 on a desktop, athlon am2 w/ a asus m2npv-vm desktop
[08:41] <sn00p|> I want to build a dual am2
[08:42] <bingnet922> bjv: yes, I've been using the last week.
[08:42] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, unmark everyhing?
[08:42] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: that's what I've got here - dual core...not dual socket though...yeah, why not just unmark it all
[08:43] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, reboot or no?
[08:43] <hipitihop> does anyone know how to start and stop NFS ?
[08:43] <sn00p|> i know this isn't windows
[08:43] <sn00p|> you dont have to reboot everytime
[08:43] <luminousnerd> Anyone happen to know the command for UT 2004?
[08:43] <sn00p|> I think yes because its part of the hardware when first start up
[08:43] <sn00p|> so i'll do it anyways
[08:44] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: to tell you the truth I'm not sure.  Why not just put the sd chip in and see what hapens now
[08:44] <sn00p|> I'll reboot
[08:44] <sn00p|> and find out
[08:44] <hipitihop> most linux distro  nfs is started nad stopped via 'service nfs start' what is it in Ubuntu ?
[08:44] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: ok
[08:44] <bjv> bingnet922: well, then id sort of have to ask: what did you change? install any new packages, etc. before you shut it down?
[08:44] <sn00p|> just so I wont have to waste any more time
[08:44] <sn00p|> heh
[08:45] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it dont crash
[08:45] <hipitihop> Does anyone know about nfslock on Ubuntu ?
[08:46] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, are you sure its sd0 I thought you said it was sg0 earlier
[08:46] <rickyfingers> ok so now let's try mounting.  I think it's /dev/sg0
[08:46] <sn00p|> bleh
[08:46] <sn00p|> my notebook froze
[08:47] <outRider> how do i boot into a console with no x running at all? ive tried runlevel 1 but that doesnt allow me to install nvidia drivers and some other stuff, does anyone know of a better way?
[08:47] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, i'll do sg0
[08:47] <sn00p|> I did sd0 before and that what made it crash
[08:47] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I think sd0 is your sata drive
[08:47] <sn00p|> I think so to
[08:47] <cypher1> arghh jigdo seems not easy as bittorrent
[08:47] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I think sd0 or your laptop's got an internal scsi
[08:47] <RAOF> outRider: You could try the "Recovery Mode" GRUB option
[08:48] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: so are you waiting for reboot now?
[08:48] <sn00p|> yea
[08:49] <RAOF> outRider: Alternatively, Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F4 will switch you to a virtual terminal, where you'll be able to login, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop X, install the nvidia drivers, and then run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to start X again.
[08:50] <ChrisNiemy> hi
[08:50] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, ok, i'm going to try and mount it again
[08:50] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: crossing my fingers
[08:51] <RAOF> hipitihop: Services can be started/stopped with "sudo /etc/init.d/servicename {stop, start, restart}"
[08:51] <bingnet922> bjv: not that I know of, I did change fstab to change mount points. root partition is not full, and the new mount points are not working for some reason. see output from ken@liteshow$startx > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32484/
[08:51] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it froze
[08:51] <sn00p|> well shit
[08:51] <outRider> RAOF, recovery console is runlevel 1, but ill keep that other solution in mind... is there a reason why runlevels 2 and 4 dont seem to exist, or do anything at all?
[08:52] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, it says here#
[08:52] <sn00p|> [17179590.980000]  sdhci: SDHCI controller found at 0000:03:09.1 [1180:0822]  (rev 19)
[08:52] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: cripes. at this point i fear we are dealing with a) a buggy device driver
[08:52] <sn00p|> muhuhuh
[08:52] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: ok b)...we don't have the right node
[08:53] <sn00p|> hrm i'm going to take a look at a log file
[08:53] <cherubiel> bingnet922: you have any stylus devices?
[08:53] <RAOF> outRider: Not that I know of, but then the only runlevels I've really dealt with are 1, 3 & 5.
[08:53] <cherubiel> bingnet922: or else remove the wacom device section from the Xorg.conf file
[08:53] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, what is a good log file to look at
[08:54] <sn00p|> for this kind of thing
[08:54] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: just found a gentoo wiki says /dev/mmcblk0
[08:54] <hipitihop> RAOF, yes after searching around on google I found that out, however when I try this with nfs or nfslock I get an error "ubknown command"
[08:54] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, ok, how do we deal with it
[08:54] <roryy> RAOF and outRider: note that ubuntu (and debian, i believe) uses runlevel 1 for recovery, and 2 for 'normal' use; 3-5 are left for the user to define if he wishes
[08:54] <bingnet922> cherubiel: negative, no wacom...no idea why that's in there
[08:55] <cherubiel> bingnet922: pastebin your xorg.conf
[08:55] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I think we try b) first, what does ls /dev/mmcblk0 say
[08:55] <cherubiel> bingnet922: did yo upgrade to edgy
[08:55] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, join that channel I invited you in #ubuntu64
[08:55] <bingnet922> yup
[08:55] <bingnet922> about a week before this problem started
[08:56] <cherubiel> bingnet922: is this after upgradation?
[08:56] <hipitihop> RAOF, so are these services known under another name in Ubuntu or what am I doing wrong ?
[08:56] <cherubiel> bingnet922: anywyas pastebin it
[08:56] <RAOF> hipitihop: I suppose that you actually have nfs *installed*?  It doesn't seem to be by default.
[08:56] <bingnet922> cherubiel: paste what?
[08:56] <cherubiel> bingnet922: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:57] <bingnet922> I'm having trouble starting x, can you see the problem in the output? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32484/ now pasting xorg.conf
[08:57] <bingnet922> also
[08:57] <sky123> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:57] <hipitihop> RAOF, I'll verify that, but I had setup my /etc/exports to include /home and I can mount it from another machine at home so I was assuming that all happened via NFS..anyway checking standby...
[08:58] <sky123> what does ps -ef | grep nfs show??
[08:58] <bingnet922> xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32486/
[08:58] <nevermind> !webcam
[08:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:59] <nevermind> thanks ubotu
[08:59] <cherubiel> bingnet922: from the section serverlayout
[08:59] <hipitihop> sky123, about 8 processes with nfsd and one with nfsd4
[08:59] <cherubiel> change InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" to #InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[08:59] <cherubiel> bingnet922: do the same for the next 2 lines as well, for cursor and eraser
[08:59] <cherubiel> then try to start X again
[09:00] <cherubiel> those are the includes of the stylus drivers in the server config
[09:00] <RAOF> hipitihop: So, I've just installed the nfs stuff, and it seems that what you're after would be either /etc/init.d/nfs-common or ../nfs-kernel-server
[09:01] <probose> hey guys... im trying to "./configure, make, make install" a program named p2kmoto... but look what happens in "make": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32487/ How do i fix it?
[09:02] <bingnet922> cherubiel: ok edit done and now logging out to try...
[09:03] <sky123> probose: it is very likely that you are missing the kernel-headers....do  a sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:03] <hipitihop> RAOF, just check and both nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server are already installed
[09:03] <probose> sky123 it says "build-essential is already the newest version" :(
[09:04] <sky123> probose: hmmm.. that is weird.. one sec
[09:04] <RAOF> hipitihop: Um... so what was the problem again?  You should be able to start/stop/restart NFS with "sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server {start,stop,restart}"
[09:04] <roryy> sky123 and probose: try linux-headers-generic (for ubuntu 6.10 i386)
[09:05] <sky123> probose: yep that should do it.. sure looks like the headers are missing
[09:05] <sky123> rorryy: I agree
[09:05] <probose> sky123 newest version too :(
[09:05] <sky123> roryy: sorry about the mispell
[09:05] <cherubiel> bingnet922: any luck?
[09:05] <roryy> sky123: everyone does it ;)
[09:06] <sky123> lol
[09:06] <probose> "p2kmoto.c:26:17: error: usb.h: No such file or directory" well, im pretty noob, but i think that is something related with that line, what do you think?
[09:06] <hipitihop> RAOF, ok I tried '/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start' and seems to work.
[09:06] <bingnet922> cherubiel: ken@liteshow$ > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32488/
[09:06] <sky123> probose: id try this is as sudo su .... find /  -name usb.h
[09:06] <cherubiel> bingnet922: don;t see any(EE)s there
[09:06] <cherubiel> bingnet922: what do you see?
[09:06] <hipitihop> RAOF, doe you then happen to know what the nfslock service equivalent is also ?
[09:07] <cherubiel> bingnet922: i mean, are you able to run any windowmanagers?
[09:07] <RAOF> hipitihop: I don't know what nfslock *is*.
[09:07] <RAOF> hipitihop: Presumably, it's something about lockfiles on NFS, but I've got nothing, sorry :)
[09:07] <sky123> probose: lets see if it exists at all..
[09:08] <probose> the search result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32490/
[09:08] <bingnet922> cherubiel: ?
[09:08] <sky123> probose: seems as if ndiswrapper has that...header..
[09:09] <luminousnerd> How can I add something to the applications menu?
[09:09] <hipitihop> RAOF, very confusing. I'm trying to follow this http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch30_:_Configuring_NIS#Table_30-2_NIS_Master_.2F_Slave_.2Fetc.2Fhosts_Files
[09:09] <cherubiel> bingnet922: no errors in the logs, what do you see? is the X crashing right away?
[09:09] <luminousnerd> Something that is already installed, but since it's not a package it's not showing up now?
[09:09] <probose> sky123 so what i must do?
[09:09] <Shaezsche> is it a bad idea to run ubuntu on reiserfs??
[09:09] <sky123> probose: uname -a returns?
[09:10] <probose> Linux lobosque-desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:10] <hipitihop> RAOF, in short I'm trying to setup NIS on Ubuntu so that I can manage logins on one machine and also have all users on all machines host their /home on one NFS server
[09:10] <rickyfingers> luminousnerd: have you already tried applications->add / remove?
[09:10] <bingnet922> cherubiel: ah, yes. I see the nvidia driver splash, then the monochrome X desktop momentarily, then back to command line with tail of afore noted error output.
[09:10] <luminousnerd> rickyfingers: isn't that for installing apps?
[09:10] <luminousnerd> and uninstalling, and all that? But I've already got the app installed (ut2004)
[09:11] <cherubiel> bingnet922: any extra info in /var/log/Xorg,0.log?
[09:11] <rickyfingers> luminousnerd: i think synaptic is for installing apps, then add/remove is for controlling what shows up on the menus
[09:11] <cherubiel> bingnet922: surprisingly, whatever you pasted looks clean
[09:11] <Myria> i installed ubuntu and grub gave "error 17" upon restarting to boot the new installation
[09:11] <Myria> x86-32
[09:11] <bingnet922> cherubiel: ~/.xsession-errors = Xsession: X session started for ken at Fri Nov 17 23:15:32 PST 2006
[09:11] <bingnet922> open: Permission denied
[09:12] <sky123> probose: it seem that it "looks" for the presence of the file in a very specific location in the make file...and based on your paste...the usb.h file is in include...so maybe some sort of symbolic link to that?
[09:12] <Myria> fedora core 6's grub didn't work either, loading grub but just having an empty grub> prompt
[09:12] <sky123> probose: id open up that make file and see where it is trying to look for usb.h
[09:12] <thevenin> Myria:  grub cant recognize the filesystem
[09:12] <sky123> probose: thats my two cents...
[09:12] <thevenin> this might help you
[09:12] <bingnet922> cherubiel: I pasted the output from the command startx
[09:12] <Myria> NTLDR is working fine, of course
[09:12] <thevenin> Myria: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[09:13] <luminousnerd> rickyfingers: hmm...Add/Remove installs things when you check things you don't have...and uninstalls when you uncheck things you do have...
[09:14] <probose> sky i cant see any reference in makefile... but in p2kmoto.c there is a include to it...
[09:14] <RAOF> hipitihop: Aha!  "aptitude show nfs-common" says that it includes lockd, which is probably what you're after.
[09:14] <cherubiel> bingnet922: same for /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:14] <cherubiel> ?
[09:14] <Myria> i suspect that the BIOS can't read past 8 gb with int 0x13
[09:14] <rickyfingers> luminousnerd: ok so we have to find the file that is associated with the applications menu on the task bar
[09:14] <RAOF> hipitihop: So, I'd suggest that nfs-common does everything that the nfslock service would do, and more.
[09:14] <Myria> ...despite there being an "LBA" option in the BIOS setup
[09:14] <rickyfingers> luminousnerd: my guess is that it's a xml file that should be pretty easy to edit
[09:14] <sky123> probose: do you need to do the make all as sudo su or?? im just grasping for ideas now..
[09:15] <sky123> probose: try it as root and see...
[09:15] <probose> i'll try
[09:15] <Myria> and i'm really screwed badly - part of the reason for a linux partition is the ability to reimage an XP 32 partition on demand
[09:15] <Myria> for doing malware research (on direct3d 9 games, which vmware can't handle)
[09:16] <Myria> if i changed the motherboard, i would have to buy 3 new copies of XP
[09:16] <Myria> since they're OEM
[09:16] <probose> sky123 using sudo it gives me the same error :(
[09:17] <hipitihop> RAOF, you have been most helpful. Are you saying I should be starting the nfs-common instead of nfs-kernal=server ?
[09:17] <sky123> probose: hang on...lemme do some checking around...
[09:17] <probose> sky123 ok ;)
[09:17] <RAOF> hipitihop: I think you should be starting *both*.  nfs-kernel-server is the nfs server, and nfs-common seems to start a bunch of related services, like lockd, nfsstat, etc.
[09:18] <RAOF> hipitihop: Also, I thought these services would be on by default if you installed them.  Aren't they?
[09:19] <probose> sky123 i made a test... i moved usb.h to the source directory and replaced include <usb.h> to include "usb.h" and it still not finding usb.h!!!
[09:19] <hipitihop> RAOF, I did not install them, just trying to follow those instructions I gave you the link to...but I see and I also guess that clients probably only need the common
[09:19] <cherubiel> probose: the -I has to be set in the Makefile
[09:20] <probose> cherubiel uh?
[09:20] <cherubiel> the header info location must be specified in the make file, using the -I switch
[09:20] <cherubiel> maybe you should try that.
[09:20] <sky123> ahhh...yes thats it..
[09:20] <sky123> cherubiel:good call
[09:20] <probose> how i do it?
[09:20] <cherubiel> gcc is supplied the header folders using -I
[09:21] <cherubiel> usually that is hardcoded as /usr/src/`uname -r`
[09:21] <hipitihop> RAOF, although the client instruction on that link mention another one 'netfs' ...anyway I think I'm on the right track. Many thanks...going to go and eat some dinner now.
[09:21] <cherubiel> probose: check your makefile
[09:21] <wikityler> does anyone run 6.06 on a system near 1.2Ghz and 512Mb ram? That's what I've got and it hardly manages the drag its lazy ass around.
[09:21] <AndyR> lo all
[09:21] <RAOF> hipitihop: good luck :)
[09:21] <probose> anyway... using usb.h in source directory is a very bad idea... because it includes another headers found in its original directory...
[09:21] <cherubiel> probose: exactly. lots of dependencies
[09:21] <sky123> right
[09:21] <cherubiel> wikityler: try a light weight window manager like windowmaker, fluxbox, xfce
[09:22] <probose> cherubiel im gonna past the makefile, wait
[09:22] <scorp007> probose: if usb.h is in the standard include path, gcc will find it using #include <usb.h>
[09:22] <probose> scorp007 thats the matter... it is not finding :(
[09:22] <scorp007> probose: in which case, no need for -I.
[09:22] <scorp007> probose: then its not in the standard include path.
[09:22] <sky123> this is good info...
[09:22] <cherubiel> scorp007: its part of the kernel headers, doesn't that have to be supplied?
[09:22] <cherubiel> its not in /usr/include
[09:22] <cherubiel> ?
[09:23] <probose> well, it is at all
[09:23] <scorp007> cherubiel: it depends what gcc searches as standard.
[09:23] <probose> see where it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32490/
[09:23] <sky123> the question is...why have to pass any flags at all..if build-essential is supposed to take care of paths and such
[09:23] <probose> and here is the makefile: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32491/
[09:25] <cherubiel> INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir)/src -I$(top_srcdir)/test is the line
[09:25] <e3> Anyone know why ksayit wont speak? i think im missing something.
[09:25] <sn00p|> where do I get the kernel from kernel.org for the amd64?
[09:25] <scorp007> $(top_srcdir) == .
[09:26] <snowshoefox> !kernel
[09:26] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:26] <rickyfingers> sn00p|
[09:26] <probose> cherubiel what is the problem with that line?
[09:26] <No1Viking> Anyone got a tip of a good newsreader?
[09:26] <ChaosFan> slrn
[09:26] <rickyfingers> I'll talk to you in PM
[09:26] <bingnet922> cherubiel: fixed it!
[09:26] <cherubiel> bingnet922: thats beerware :P
[09:26] <bingnet922> it was permissions on /tmp
[09:26] <bingnet922> x couldn't make temp dirs
[09:27] <bingnet922> I changed mount points for tmp...
[09:27] <cherubiel> probose: append -I/usr/src/`uname -r`
[09:27] <snowshoefox> Is it ok to install the SysV IPC stuff to work with Upstart?
[09:27] <bingnet922> BTW: what should /tmp be? 777?
[09:27] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I answered your PM
[09:27] <cherubiel> bingnet922: you should see the errors on ~/,xsession-errors
[09:27] <ar2k7> hi, where can I find an .qtrc example file for default kde plastik look?
[09:28] <bingnet922> ,xsession or .xsession?
[09:28] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, didn't get it are you registered with nickserv?
[09:28] <probose> cherubiel append it and then?
[09:28] <cherubiel> probose: make
[09:28] <probose> cherubiel ok wait a sec
[09:28] <cherubiel> bingnet922: do a chmod +t /tmp as well
[09:28] <dsb> hi
[09:29] <scorp007> probose: what does echo "-I/usr/src/`uname -r`" print?
[09:29] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: oops, I haven't registered
[09:30] <dsb> I'm having some network problems. I have a few comps behind a linksys router that provides my internet. I have set a drupal web server on one computer, but it can't be reached from the outside
[09:30] <igorzolnikov> Is to play Rhythmbox 0.9.6 music in mp3 format?
[09:30] <probose> scorp007 -I/usr/src/2.6.17-10-386
[09:30] <scorp007> probose: is that where your header is located?
[09:31] <sn00p|> rickyfingers, I cant see your msgs then
[09:31] <dsb> I've allowed the router to port forward to the static ip address that I provided to the web server
[09:31] <cherubiel> /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:31] <probose> scorp007 it is in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/include/linux/usb.h
[09:31] <cherubiel> my bad.
[09:31] <scorp007> there you go.
[09:32] <probose> so i must use -I/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:32] <scorp007> I'm not 100% sure, does gcc search recursively?
[09:32] <igorzolnikov> Is Rhythmbox to play a music in mp3 format?
[09:32] <scorp007> or does it only search the directory you specify?
[09:32] <rickyfingers> sn00p|: I'm having trouble remembering the commands to register my nic
[09:33] <sn00p|> its /msg nickserv identify password
[09:33] <scorp007> probose: if your file is in the linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic directory, and uname -r returns a different value, what makes you think gcc will find it anyway?
[09:33] <bjv> and by "nickserv" he means "bjv"
[09:34] <scorp007> sn00p|: I'm not aware that's how you register a nick?
[09:34] <probose> so why dont use -I/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:34] <sky123> dsb: check netstat -ln | more for port 80 to be open...then same on linksys..and make sure you portforward to the box that has drupal on it
[09:34] <probose> ??
[09:34] <cherubiel> probose: you should try those, to see the actual effect :)
[09:35] <sn00p|> oh
[09:35] <cherubiel> probose: anyways it wouldn't hurt anything else
[09:35] <rickyfingers> sn00p| ok i think i did it, i was misspelling nicser
[09:35] <sn00p|> heh
[09:35] <sn00p|> i see your msg
[09:35] <sky123> probose: thats good advice...try...test...and see ...
[09:35] <probose> gives the same error :P
[09:35] <cherubiel> probose: make clean; make
[09:36] <probose> same error
[09:36] <cherubiel> probose: what does the readme say? there was a configure step?
[09:37] <dsb> sky123: I think its a problem with dns or my domain. I had my drupal configured base_url as a private ip net, but then I changed it too the FQDN that I have registered and a no go
[09:37] <probose> it just tells to configure make and make install
[09:37] <probose> and some others advanced things
[09:37] <sky123> dsb: and what happens when you try by ip?
[09:38] <dsb> when I had the raw ip address I could hit my default web directory, but could not go past the drupal form the outside, on the inside I could
[09:38] <scorp007> probose: did you try to follow the instructions in the appropriate INSTALL or README file?
[09:39] <probose> scorp007 sure i did
[09:39] <probose> hey... i must put that line into the makefile inside /src too?
[09:39] <phlasphy> hey all
[09:39] <sky123> dsb: it does sound like what you have stated could be the issue..but more so...id check the configs and make sure none of the internal and external addressing is mixed up..
[09:39] <cherubiel> probose: what did you change??
[09:39] <cherubiel> Makefile,in ??
[09:39] <phlasphy> what is a good program to rip and encode an audio cd to flac?
[09:39] <dsb> I can go to default directory with raw ip, but I click on my drupal directory and it doesn't resolve the domain
[09:39] <cherubiel> hange in Makefile
[09:39] <cherubiel> !audacity
[09:39] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[09:39] <probose> i changed makefile
[09:39] <probose> but there is also other makefile in /src
[09:40] <probose> the include line in it says
[09:40] <probose> INCLUDES = $(all_includes)
[09:41] <we2by> hi
[09:41] <scorp007> probose: generally, the configure script should generate the correct Makefile. You shouldn't normally tamper with the makefile itself.
[09:41] <dsb> I don't really want to put my raw ip in the conf because it might change, thus I have zoneedit dns service
[09:41] <we2by> what tool do I use to play a dvd from an .iso file??
[09:41] <scorp007> probose: you can usually pass options to ./configure.
[09:41] <RAOF> !sudo
[09:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.