[00:27]  * mikeputnam heads to the Appleton Makerspace to give a talk on Google Calendar API + Python
[00:49] <tsimonq2> ooh!
[14:16] <h00k> tsimonq2: negative never quite verified
[18:13] <tsimonq2> :/
[19:01] <mikeputnam> ?
[21:46] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: ?
[21:46] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: what's up?
[22:04] <mikeputnam> was wondering what the :/ was referring to
[22:04] <mikeputnam> seems a look of disappointment
[22:18] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: 08:16:31 AM < h00k> tsimonq2: negative never quite verified
[22:22] <mikeputnam> ah sorry. i should move my irc-ing back to a bounce host instead of connecting from the laptop.  i lose context this way.
[22:22] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: you should get a shell and use tmux/irssi
[22:32] <mikeputnam> man, i authored the tmux website. no need to school me on tmux. https://github.com/dsturnbull/tmux/commit/70a8ae09330cb10bf7e7c066741eaf940640ddaf
[22:32] <mikeputnam> ;)
[22:32] <tsimonq2> 0.0 wot?
[22:37] <mikeputnam> irssi is awesome. after several years, i switched to weechat which has different warts but I prefer the interface.
[22:37] <tsimonq2> I am using an irssi and tmux setup right now
[22:37] <tsimonq2> maybe you should do it


[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75293 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed : "update grub" impossible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75293
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75294 in genpower (universe) "sync: new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75294
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75295 in Ubuntu "Feisty freeze, kernel (?) tries to access DVD drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75295
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75296 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuiquity crashes when trying to erase the entire disk on Xbuntu Live" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75296
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75297 in firefox (main) "crash after theme change" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75297
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75298 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "No sonypi module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75298
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68894 in firefox (main) "Firefox often crashes" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68894
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69068 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes very often!" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69068
[01:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69378 in firefox (main) "Multiple Tabs, moving within MySpace, crash" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69378
[01:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69147 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash report" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/69147
[01:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75299 in g-wrap (universe) "PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_foreground.so: undefined symbol: pam_set_data] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75299
[01:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75300 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuntu installer crashes when tries to read "xorg.conf" " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75300
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75301 in Ubuntu "Missing /dev/parport0 device node in edgy eft amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75301
[02:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75302 in powernowd (main) "Broken init script: Directory nonexistent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75302
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75303 in totem (main) "[edgy]  Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75303
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75304 in lftp (main) "segfault afer 'ls'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75304
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75305 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "No sound on Intel iMac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75305
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75306 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Live CD fails to boot, stops when detecting ata" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75306
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75307 in Ubuntu "Problems detecting the root partition on ubuntu edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75307
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75309 in nautilus (main) "open multiple windows instead of a single one" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75309
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75311 in gnomebaker (universe) "seg fault when creating an iso" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75311
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75312 in emerald "Crash changing window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75312
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75316 in Ubuntu "Bad video card selection on LiveCD boot when there is more than one to choose from" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75316
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75315 in glibc (main) "libc6-dev 2.5 doesn't work with Edgy's gcc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75315
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75317 in kdebase (main) "[KHelpCenter] Build Search Index Broke" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75317
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75318 in unrar-nonfree (multiverse) "wrong error message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75318
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75319 in Ubuntu "Hard Drive Problem?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75319
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75310 in python-defaults (main) "Security vulnerability in UCS-4 python 2.4.3" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75310
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75320 in squid (main) "bad default path for diskd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75320
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75321 in epiphany-browser (main) "Printing gets cut off with in-text graphics(smileys)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75321
[08:40] <Ubugtu> WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas.
[08:51] <somerville32> Hmmm...
[08:51] <somerville32> Is no bugs reported in 30 minutes a bad thing? hah
[08:51] <somerville32> Maybe Ubuntu is becoming more bug-free ;]
[08:51] <Burgundavia> doubt it
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72005 in hal (main) "OSS apps no longer works, just ALSA, strange hal-device output" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72005
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75322 in Ubuntu "libGL warning pops up in winecfg" [Low,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75322
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75323 in Ubuntu "Beryl doesn't work after awaking from suspend to RAM" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75323
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71725 in muine (universe) "Muine is missing icons when run under Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71725
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75324 in Ubuntu "Gnome file chooser/selector is way to small" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75324
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> somerville32, nope
[09:17] <somerville32> hehe
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75325 in nautilus-sendto (main) "Files with absolute pathname are treated as relative" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75325
[09:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75326 in gaim (main) "Close unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75326
[09:56] <dholbach> good morning
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach, morning
[09:57] <dholbach> heya Admiral_Chicago
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going?
[10:00] <dholbach> fine fine - a bit tired, but steadily waking up - how are you?
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> tired, had a long day and not too much sleep, working on my final paper now
[10:01] <dholbach> I didn't have long nights throughout the weekend
[10:01] <dholbach> but still - it felt good ;-)
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i did, went to bed around 6, couldn't go to bed plus it's finals so I'm on no sleep for the next two weeks
[10:04] <dholbach> Man, I wish you all the best with that!
[10:04] <dholbach> please tell how it all went
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach, thanks, will do
[10:06] <dholbach> ROCK
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75327 in pygtk (main) "Bug 381389  pygimp complains in codegen.py in cvs gimp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75327
[10:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75328 in totem (main) "Totem-mozilla completely breaks web functionality and removes ubuntu-desktop when you attempt to remove it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75328
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75329 in syslog-summary (universe) "Please sync syslog-summary (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75329
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75330 in gnomebaker (universe) "strange messages in gnomebaker text console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75330
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75331 in gnome-media (main) "Random crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75331
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75332 in update-manager (main) "Held back packages not ignored" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75332
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Bug #1
[11:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[11:11] <Jucato> :O
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i can reproduce it on my campus
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75335 in debian-installer (main) "64bit installer stops when trying to choose mirror" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75335
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75337 in language-pack-cs (main) "Translation didn't make it into Tuxpaint" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75337
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75338 in beagle (main) "Beagle should suggest 'schedutils'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75338
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75341 in Ubuntu "Master volume slider has no effect on volume level" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75341
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75342 in Ubuntu "After resuming from suspend, can't start any programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75342
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75343 in apt (main) "[Feisty]  dist-upgrade not marking as held back" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75343
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75345 in mouseemu (universe) "mouse cursor can't move smothly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75345
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75347 in ntp (main) "if-up.d script steps time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75347
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75348 in libnotify (main) "some notifications appear over the panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75348
[01:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75349 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "feisty:dmesg flooded with sonypi messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75349
[01:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75350 in cpio (main) "Restoring from rooted backup with --no-absolute-filenames spams stderr" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75350
[01:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75351 in xfce-mcs-plugins (main) "Incorrect text strings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75351
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75352 in gnome-power-manager (main) "control to change lcd-brightness doesn't exists anymore in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75352
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75353 in gnome-power-manager (main) "ped power button don't show interactive gui" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75353
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75354 in Ubuntu "kpilot does not sync pasted events" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75354
[02:23] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: about this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/73658
[02:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73658 in firefox "After adding Extensions, Firefox Crashes" [Undecided,Rejected]
[02:23] <Admiral_Chicago> good call, i would have closed it myself, i usually tell people it's not a bug in ubuntu, but a bad extension
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: i dont think any of those extenstions he installed are in repos so im fairly confident it was one of them
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: well no thing is this, I've written FAQs and done support for FX to know when it a user problem or an actual bug
[02:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i know FX inside and out i like to think
[02:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75358 in network-manager (main) "ad-hoc networks don't work with ipw2200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75358
[03:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75359 in gnome-power-manager (main) "crash after resume from hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75359
[03:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75360 in evolution-exchange (main) "Crash on exchange account activity (package out of date?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75360
[03:23] <pirast> seb128, hi
[03:24] <pirast> seb128, could you have a look at bug 50761? there's a debdiff for feisty attached which fixes a gconf compatibility issue. would be nice to see this in feisty :-)
[03:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50761 in gnome-session "disabling lock screen does not work" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/50761
[03:49] <bddebian> Boo
[03:50] <Jucato> heya :)
[03:50] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75361 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution-exchange fails with a missing link to camel_url_decode_path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75361
[04:01] <seb128> pirast: hi, will do, thank you for pointing it (it was already on my list)
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75362 in xchat (universe) "Selecting "shorten tabs to 2 chars" doesn't work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75362
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75365 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "scsi-modules incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75365
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75366 in edgy-community-wallpapers (main) "License info is wrong, and is non-free anyway" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75366
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75363 in lgrind (multiverse) "Recommends tetex-bin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75363
[04:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75367 in texlive-extra (universe) "texilve-math-extra(2005.dfsg.1-1): errors installing it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75367
[04:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75368 in texlive-bin (universe) "texlive-omega (2005.dfsg.1-1ubuntu3): Error installing it" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75368
[04:37] <pirast> seb128, thanks :-)
[04:37] <seb128> np
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75369 in Ubuntu "network is disconnected and connected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75369
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75371 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes, closes all windows while I was reading a web site" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75371
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75373 in gnome-panel (main) "rearranging the window list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75373
[06:43] <keeb_> hallo :D
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71861 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Edgy configured floppy disk in /etc/fstab incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/71861
[06:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75372 in gaim-libnotify (universe) "raise the window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75372
[06:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75375 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[time-admin]  clock applet context menu doesn't allow "Adjust Date & Time"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75375
[06:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75376 in totem (main) "Black screen on pressing right-arrow-key up to the end of the mpg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75376
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75378 in evolution (main) "Evolution crash on start, feisty, libcamelexchange.so" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75378
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75379 in firefox (main) "firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75379
[07:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75377 in gnome-desktop (main) "trash reports wrong number of items after removing USB flash drive with deleted files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75377
[07:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75381 in update-manager (main) "DBus errors on Command Line" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75381
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75382 in openoffice.org (main) "New release OpenOffice.org 2.1.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75382
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75383 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "sun-java5-plugin fails to configure: iceweasel-javaplugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75383
[08:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75384 in xsane (main) "xsane PDF file sizes could be optimized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75384
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75385 in openoffice.org (main) "OO calc hangs in saving file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75385
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75386 in openexr (main) "[6.10]  libopenexr-dev have unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75386
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75388 in knetworkmanager (main) "PO Template completly differ from upstream PO file." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75388
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75389 in udev (main) "Man page error for PROGRAM rule" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75389
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75392 in usplash (main) "no usable video mode on consoles after booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75392
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75393 in gedit (main) "Syntax highlighting for Java ignores true/false keywords" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75393
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75394 in mdbtools (main) "Property crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75394
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75395 in udev (main) "lookup_group: specified group 'nvram' unknown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75395
[09:11] <johanbr> Pardon me for being a bonehead, but against which package do I report Feisty kernel bugs? All the packages I found on launchpad had the "Bugs" link greyed out.
[09:12] <Adri2000> johanbr: linux-source-2.6.19 I believe
[09:13] <johanbr> Adri2000: Ah, that seems to work. Thank you.
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75397 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Some OpenGL apps freeze the whole system with ATI Xpress 200 (fglrx)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75397
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75396 in cohoba (universe) "My contacts disappear from the list and the group I class them in." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75396
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75398 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "Fan does not come on due to ACPI problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75398
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75399 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "DVB-T doesn't working - fw missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75399
[09:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75400 in xfonts-ayu (universe) "[Sync Request]  Sync xfonts-ayu (1.7+0a+0debian1-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75400
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75401 in firefox (main) "Random crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75401
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75402 in control-center (main) "gnome-sound-properties only sees hardware alsa devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75402
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75404 in efax (universe) "segmentation fault, quits, leaves file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75404
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75403 in emacs21 (main) "Gnus is duplicated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75403
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75405 in hardinfo (universe) "Crashed when i wanted see kernel modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75405
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75406 in gdm (main) "gdmsetup does not start on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75406
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75407 in easytag (universe) "New Version has been released." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75407
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75409 in desktop-effects (universe) "Missing dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75409
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75410 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75410
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #75411 in saods9 (universe) "Crash when using numdisplay (Python)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/75411


[05:38] <Laibsch> I'm trying to add https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/stable but "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 15331454B72FD7EC" tells me that the key is not found.  I think I followed the directions, but it still doesn't work.
[05:38] <StevenK> You can't use add-apt-repository ?
[05:39] <wgrant> Laibsch: wfm
[05:40] <wgrant> Also, yeah, apt-add-repository is awesome.
[05:42] <Laibsch> hm, strange indeed.  WFM as well in my normal installation.  I'm trying to add to a pbuilder and there it fails.  That's also why I don't want add-apt-repository if possible.  Keep it lean and mean
[05:43] <wgrant> Is your resolv.conf broken?
[05:43] <wgrant> Perhaps gpg fails to distinguish between name resolution failures and 404s...
[05:47] <Laibsch> I think resolv.conf works fine. I can do "aptitude update" for example just fine from inside the pbuilder (pbuilder --login)
[09:04] <fidel_> hi - question: i can see my recent activity in my launchpad profile - but these 'recent activites' are just plain text as i.e.: 5 minutes ag o New Bug filled. Why not adding a link to the actual bugreport?
[09:04] <fidel_> this would help finding back to specific actions in the past
[09:04] <fidel_> right now 'recent activites' function is somehow limited
[09:07] <czajkowski> fidel_: re bugs you can click on the bug tab and see all bugs you're involved in
[09:07] <czajkowski> you can see the ones you submitted or subscribed to
[09:17] <fidel_> czajkowski: thanks - that works yes. but still wouldnt my idea mentioned above pimp the 'recent activities' view?
[09:19] <czajkowski> fidel_: you're more than welcome to submit a bug for it but it may not be implemented, or we do love to have people contribute patches
[09:20] <fidel_> i c - launchpad-code is yet another project on launchpad i guess right?
[09:24] <czajkowski> fidel_: this may help http://blog.launchpad.net/general/contributing-to-launchpad
[09:26] <fidel_> thanks
[12:31] <shape> Hello, To report a bug for Xubuntu, is there a special section in Launchpad.net? Or can I report it in the Ubuntu section?
[12:33] <wgrant> shape: Ubuntu's the right place.
[12:34] <shape> wgrant: Do you happen to know if there is already a reported but about the HDD being turned on and off every 30 seconds on battery in Xubuntu?
[12:35] <wgrant> shape: No idea, sorry.
[12:35] <shape> wgrant: np
[12:38] <shape> wgrant: If I have that problem described above is there a package I could use ubuntu-bug on? Or should I just write the problem down and that would be all?
[14:23] <dupondje> Hi, somebody that could look @ https://launchpad.net/~damagedspline/+archive/waze-qt/+build/3455851  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/3454000 and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/3456197
[14:23] <dupondje> are all stuck somehow
[14:30] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~yade-pkg/+archive/snapshots/+build/3456215 seems also stuck
[14:30] <dupondje> not difficult the queue fills up :)
[14:54] <dupondje> anyone?
[14:59] <czajkowski> dupondje: are you seeing any errors?
[15:00] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/~yade-pkg/+archive/snapshots/+build/3456215 seems to be at same step for some minutes now
[15:01] <dupondje> or its really extremely slow :)
[15:03] <czajkowski> dupondje: let me go and see
[15:03] <dupondje> also Started 10 hours ago
[15:03] <dupondje> quite long :)
[15:13] <czajkowski> dupondje: thedac is looking into it now
[15:13] <dupondje> ok thx
[15:17] <thedac> dupondje: looking at the yade-daily 2+3099+30~precise1 build. There was a long (10 hours) but it is now processing. I can either let it run or kill it and start over on another builder
[15:18] <thedac> a long *gap*
[15:19] <dupondje> hmz ok, well I don't mind letting it run :)
[15:20] <dupondje> it was just running for a LONG time without any action
[15:20] <dupondje> thats why :)
[15:20] <dupondje> and the queue was growing :)
[15:20] <thedac> dupondje: that is what it looks like.
[15:21] <thedac> I'll keep digging. Ping me if this doesn't finish in the next hour
[15:21] <dupondje> 3 other builds were also stuck somehow, but somebody killed those :)
[15:22] <dupondje> anyway i'll ping you if there are issues :D
[17:24] <jcastro> hi launchpadders, this BP isn't in the export feed for UDS: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-qt-bof
[17:25] <jcastro> It's supposed to show up here but it is not: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-q/+temp-meeting-export
[17:25] <jcastro> I've doublechecked all the settings and everything seems correct, if anyone can shed some light on this that would be great
[17:33] <rick_h_> jcastro: in checking it vs others the series goal isn't set?
[17:34] <jcastro> rick_h_: ok I set that, any idea how long it takes for the export to regenerate?
[17:34] <rick_h_> sorry, none at all
[17:34] <rick_h_> abentley: you have any clue on the export process/timeline?
[17:35] <abentley> rick_h_: Sorry, but I'm completely unfamiliar with that.
[17:35] <rick_h_> cool, thanks
[17:52] <rick_h_> jcastro: it looks like that one's not getting included because it's set to Approved
[17:53] <rick_h_> that export page is only looking for NEW, DISCUSSION, DRAFT
[17:53] <rick_h_> jcastro: and so that page is live updated, so nothing to wait for as far as I can tell
[17:54] <rick_h_> I've not used/know the backstory of these urls, does that make sense?
[18:03] <rick_h_> 454576
[19:18] <Laney> how do I get a PPA which builds on the virtual armel builders?
[19:20] <ScottK> Laney: First you get hired by Canonical, AIUI.
[19:20] <bobweaver> hello there i am looking for help on removing branchs that I created that are no longer needed
[19:21] <bobweaver> https://code.launchpad.net/ubforums-2-ubwiki    <~~ code
[19:21] <bobweaver> I am josephmills
[19:21] <lifeless> ScottK: I'm fairly sure we want to open it up, I don't know where it is at for doing that.
[19:21] <lifeless> ScottK: bigjools or wgrant or infinity probably know.
[19:21] <lifeless> Laney: ^
[19:22] <ScottK> Right, but I think that's the current answer.
[19:22] <lifeless> bobweaver: if you have permission, on the branch page, there is a delete button.
[19:22] <bobweaver> I want to make lp:~michaelrawson76/ubforums-2-ubwiki/ubforums-2-ubwiki the only branch that there is is the goal in the end :) thanks for your time
[19:22] <bobweaver> it says that it can not delete it lifeless
[19:22] <lifeless> it should say why
[19:22] <bobweaver> This branch cannot be deleted as it has 1 branch sharing revisions.
[19:22] <bobweaver> how too fix that ?
[19:22] <lifeless> ok, that means it was the trunk branch at one point
[19:23] <lifeless> you need to unstack the new branch
[19:23] <bobweaver> thanks
[19:23] <bobweaver> will try
[19:23] <lifeless> bzr reconfigure --unstacked <url>, if I remember correctly.
[19:23] <bobweaver> lifeless,  is now know as lifesaver :)
[19:36] <bobweaver> Is there a way too just get ride of the whole project? as I keep on having too change my code due to internal issues and would like to just blow away the whole thing as I am sick and tried of re-writing code for people that tell me that I have too start over as far as I am concerned they can write the code
[19:38] <bobweaver> I am sure that I am not the 1st person too say this
[19:38] <bobweaver> I will jsut start my own project then if they want they can use my code if not cool if so cool I just do not want to be affiliated because I think ......
[19:47] <lifeless> bobweaver: totally up to you
[19:47] <lifeless> bobweaver: you can hand the project over to registry if you don't want to keep the metadata up to date anymore
[19:51] <bobweaver> thanks I am going to take more time to think aboutmit I have changed owners and also rm my code and have it saved if they want to use. If this was for work I would keep it up but this is play and I can not keep re-writing flowcharts :)
[19:51] <lifeless> why are you rewriting flowcharts?
[19:51] <bobweaver> becuase they keep change the game plan up
[19:52] <lifeless> who do ? why do they have influence over you ?
[19:52] <bobweaver> 1st it was make too programs one for op to convert html too wiki 2nd was to have auto import page that runs on crontab
[19:53] <bobweaver> so I made them programs
[19:53] <bobweaver> then that was thrown out the window with we need to change the inport page ect
[19:53] <bobweaver> then wait we need to keep
[19:53] <bobweaver> then lets just get rid off all togeather
[19:54] <bobweaver> then lets have again but on different page
[19:54] <bobweaver> then this is not working so lets move on too do this which = new flow charts ect
[19:55] <bobweaver> then in the meeeting today .... lets not go there :)
[19:57] <bobweaver> no one was putting in blue prints and just sending things to mailing list I am on like 30 mailing list and was lead dev for this I was just trying to help and I see where that has gotten me :) I was removed as OP from channel and have been made too feel like I am doing wrong things so I think eff it I will cowboy this stuff
[19:58] <bobweaver> but then the best of all I went though mailing list and found nothing. so,,,,
[19:59] <bobweaver> sorry to rant here I am done Once again I am sorry . that is my word of the day :(
[19:59]  * lifeless is thoroughly confused
[20:00] <bobweaver> you and me both
[20:04] <bobweaver> I still dont know how it ended up that I was saying sorry for not knowing things that where happenening that I was not infomed of there should have been blueprints I have learned something today thou. always stick your flowcharts up get reviews and then after that do blueprints. If people do not like then the hell with them they can make there own thing. just sux because I  was the 1st one too mak anything and feel as thou I have been pus
[20:04] <bobweaver> hed too the side. Like your 1st code was ok and we are going to use that thanks now gget the heck out of here but before you do that can you change this lol
[20:09] <dobey> who can i bug to bump up the build score a bit for a PPA?
[20:11] <czajkowski> dobey: me
[20:12] <czajkowski> dobey: don't leave me hanging :) or I'll go back to packing
[20:13] <bobweaver> lifeless,  at any ate thanks for your help and also testtools and python-oops-tool is great stuff so thanks for that also
[20:13] <dobey> czajkowski: heh. sorry
[20:14] <dobey> czajkowski: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/beta could use a bump
[20:14] <czajkowski> dobey: 2 tics
[20:14] <czajkowski> dobey: done
[20:14] <dobey> czajkowski: cheers
[20:15] <czajkowski> dobey: np, nice to actually be able to help you for once :) rather than the other way around
[20:15] <czajkowski> shout if needs more
[20:15] <dobey> hehe
[20:15] <dobey> :)
[20:38] <lifeless> bobweaver: no worries
[21:18] <bobweaver> anyone here good with python and gedit I am trying to fix bug. one I can not see anything on the terminal screenshot http://imagebin.org/210696     code http://paste.ubuntu.com/963239/   look at lines 14 and 20 them are the ones that I want to fix  I want  a green for-ground and a black background thanks for your time Or ubuntu stock colors would be nice also :) If this is the wrong channel too post this in I am sorry but I am running out
[21:18] <bobweaver>  of options no one on python and or Gnome seems to know anything about it. Once again thanks for your time :)
[21:46] <bullgard4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993038 I wonder what does mean needs-bisect»« in "** Tags added: needs-bisect regression-release".
[22:03] <falktx__> hey there
[22:03] <falktx__> I just tried to do an upload of a native package using lzma, and it was rejected
[22:04] <falktx__> Unable to identify file distrho-plugins_20120502-0~precise1.tar.lzma (sound) in changes.
[22:04] <falktx__> I'm doing some search, it seems related to this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/225151
[22:04] <falktx__> isn't lzma supported in PPAs?
[22:07] <falktx__> I see some bugs on launchpad regarding lzma, but they are set to fixed
[22:08] <falktx__> I can use gzip, but that means 71Mb vs 21Mb
[22:09] <Resistance> ugh, my ZNC's disconnecting me from *everywhere* :/
[22:09] <falktx__> my upload speed is very slow... (that's the reason I'm trying to use lzma)
[22:10] <falktx__> any hints?
[22:10]  * falktx__ tries bz2
[22:12] <mwhudson> falktx__: i _think_ you can use xz
[22:13] <bullgard4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993038 Was bedeutet »needs-bisect« in "** Tags added: needs-bisect regression-release"?
[22:13] <falktx__> mwhudson: but is it supported?
[22:13] <mwhudson> falktx__: seems like it, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/742408
[22:14] <falktx__> hm, but will it work for 10.04 too?
[22:14] <mwhudson> ah
[22:14] <mwhudson> now that is a question
[22:14] <falktx__> I have the idea that xz is too recent
[22:14] <falktx__> yep
[22:14] <mwhudson> i think you might be correct
[22:14] <falktx__> I need packages for 10.04 and 12.04
[22:15] <falktx__> different debian/source/options is possible, but not convenient in any way
[22:16] <falktx__> mwhudson: should I report a bug then?
[22:18] <mwhudson> falktx__: it might be good to talk to someone who knows this issues a bit more definitely than me
[22:18] <mwhudson> like wgrant or StevenK if they're awake yet
[22:18] <falktx__> hmm, bz2 makes it 29Mb
[22:18] <Resistance> falktx__:  which packages do you need?
[22:19] <falktx__> Resistance: I'm trying to upload a native-source package using lzma compression
[22:19] <Resistance> uploading to...?
[22:19] <falktx__> PPA
[22:19] <falktx__> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/plugins
[22:19] <Resistance> did you try gzip compression?
[22:19] <Resistance> (just out of curiiosity)
[22:20] <falktx__> Resistance: no, because tarball gets 71Mb and my internet is not the best
[22:20] <falktx__> reason why I wanted to use lzma instead
[22:20] <falktx__> xz is too new for 10.04 (I think), so lzma
[22:20] <falktx__> when uploading, I got build rejected mail, saying:
[22:20] <falktx__> Unable to identify file distrho-plugins_20120502-0~precise1.tar.lzma (sound) in changes.
[22:21] <Resistance> yeah, i'm going to let one of the gods of Launchpad answer your question, I just use GZip compression
[22:21] <Resistance> and for the record: my internet is limited by my router, which is mostly-dead and glitchy as hell, and I still use GZip compression
[22:21] <Resistance> (and sometimes I have packages in excess of 50MB)
[22:21] <falktx__> what is your upload speed?
[22:22] <falktx__> mine is around ~50kb/sec
[22:22] <falktx__> but because my network kinda sucks, sometimes the connection is broken, and I have to start from the beginning... :(
[22:22] <StevenK> re_is_native_tar_ext = re.compile(r"^tar.(?:gz|bz2|xz)$")
[22:22] <StevenK> .lzma no worky ^
[22:23] <falktx__> StevenK: hey there, you seem to be the guy I should talk to ;)
[22:23] <falktx__> can this work? or should I use gzip/bz2 instead?
[22:24] <StevenK> Use tar.xz instead
[22:24] <StevenK> Make sure you have Pre-Depends set correctly
[22:24] <falktx__> StevenK: but will it work on 10.04 systems?
[22:24] <StevenK> It should work fine, xz support was added in 9.04 or something
[22:25] <falktx__> ok, cool
[22:26] <falktx__> StevenK: what do I need to set in pre-depends?
[22:26] <falktx__> xz-utils?
[22:26] <StevenK> That I don't remember
[22:26] <falktx__> I assume it's build pre-depends, not normal packages..?
[22:27] <falktx__> dpkg -S `which xz` -> xz-utils :)
[22:54] <falktx__> xz gets me a 23Mb (lzma does 21Mb)
[22:54] <falktx__> good enough ;)
[22:58] <wilx> And 7zip?
[22:59] <falktx__> didn't tried, let me try now
[23:00]  * falktx__ wonders why linux doesn't give 7z so much attention...
[23:02] <wgrant> 7z doesn't really do POSIX well
[23:02] <wgrant> And I'm pretty sure it uses lzma compression
[23:02] <falktx__> gee, 7z gets me 51Mb...
[23:02] <wgrant> So it's not very useful as an archive or compression format
[23:02] <falktx__> not good for source code ;)
[23:02] <wgrant> It's just better than zip, because zip has historically been terrible
[23:03] <wilx> IME it does better than xz.
[23:03] <wilx> Have you tried appropriate switches? :)
[23:04] <wilx> Or at least equal if not better.
[23:04] <wilx> E.g., see these https://sourceforge.net/projects/log4cplus/files/log4cplus-stable/1.1.0/, xz is ony a bit smaller than 7zips.
[23:06] <falktx__> distrho-plugins 20120502-0~precise1 (Accepted)
[23:06] <falktx__> yay!
[23:11] <falktx__> heh, 7z with "ultra" settings gets a 55Mb 7z file
[23:11] <falktx__> weird...
[23:34] <shape> Hello, I have reported a bug and someone in the comments told me to do this command apport-collect 993245. I ran it and then asks me to give full authorization to between launchpad and my computer.
[23:38] <Resistance> shape:  probably so it can upload the files
[23:39] <shape> shape: but it does nothing. It doesn't close, do I have to leave my computer on? What should it do exactly?


[04:14] <nhaines> Words to live by: http://xkcd.com/1459/
[04:14] <darthrobot> Title: [xkcd: Documents]
[05:37] <ianorlin> wow I don't feel so bad about mine now
[05:38] <nhaines> Mine's mostly okay.  >_>
[05:40] <ianorlin> although mostly because new comp and old stuff is in its own folder
[23:00] <philipballew_> rww, I will try my best to be at this meeting, it depends on what time me and my girlfriend get back from a date, but I have all the scale stuff, and was planning to paste it onto the wiki and shoot it up sometime before the next meeting. If I am unable to be there, Il set up a few words to have someone relay a message.


[18:47] <autumna> recordmydesktop is pretty terrible and buggy. zequence what are you thinking as a potential replacement?
[18:50] <autumna> ok.. I really need to read more carefully the emails before responding to them.
[19:29] <zequence> autumna: I don't remember the name. I was doing some screen recording at my studio and ended up using two different applications. One for the desktop and one for my cam
[19:29] <zequence> So, I need to go there to check them out. Slight chance one of the applications is not in the archive
[19:30] <zequence> I was looking for something that was able to record both video and audio without using too much space
[19:30] <zequence> Finally found a pretty neat solution
[19:30] <zequence> Think Kazaam is not great with audio
[19:31] <zequence> Don't remember which setup gave me either no audio, or very out of sync audio
[19:40] <sakrecoer> i have tried everything i could find for desktop recording... the best i got was kazaam and audacity in pseudo synch
[20:00] <autumna> oh dear
[20:01] <autumna> I do wonder if blender has some hidden feature somewhere, because since you know
[20:01] <autumna> blender does everything
[20:04] <sakrecoer> what are you looking for autumna ?
[20:05] <sakrecoer> i'm pretty sure you can do screen casts in blender, but i don't think it allows you to record anything else, if that is what you are looking for?
[20:05] <autumna> something that can record desktop, preferably with audio. I have an art pieces I want to document before flash completely gets irrevelant. that's the primary need. the rest, is just to maybe make tutorials one day or something (audio isn't necessary for that)
[20:05] <sakrecoer> aren't there any screencast tools specificaly for firefox?
[20:06] <autumna> I haven't looked into it to be honest. it is in my todo list
[20:07] <sakrecoer> hehe... there is ONE.... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/capture-fox/?src=search
[20:07] <sakrecoer> "now works in firefox 5 and 6
[20:07] <sakrecoer> :D
[20:08] <autumna> that one is 5 years old
[20:08] <autumna> and not functional
[20:08] <autumna> :D
[20:20] <OvenWerks> VLC can record desktop. I could not get audio in though even though the dialog had audio selected.
[20:21] <autumna> ovenwerks I just ran into that over wikipedia
[20:21] <autumna> I'll definitely give it a try.
[20:22] <autumna> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimpleScreenRecorder this looks promising
[20:27] <OvenWerks> Audio in seems to require an alsa device free, so no jack/pa running or alsa loopback and jack.
[20:29] <OvenWerks> I don't imagine any of the other are different, but recording the desktop would be a lot easier on a dual monitor setup in mirror mode so it only sees one screen
[20:31] <autumna> no it does allow jack
[20:31] <autumna> it says it allows jack :)
[20:34] <autumna> OvenWerks:  this one doesn't allow that?
[20:34] <OvenWerks> vlc sees alsa or oss.
[20:35] <autumna> ohh
[20:35] <autumna> sorry I skipped to simplescreenrecorder :)
[20:38] <OvenWerks> vokoscreen?
[20:38] <autumna> I never actually used vlc for desktop recording so possible.
[20:38] <autumna> *googles*
[20:43] <OvenWerks> Vokoscreen seems to just work. It is set by default for 25fps. Uses the default Pulseaudio device... which in my case is jack_source :)
[20:43] <autumna> nice
[20:44] <OvenWerks> It allows window/fullscreen/area selection which means no need to select mirrror for double monitors.
[20:45] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: wow!! that one completly passed me by!
[20:46] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: it is just a gui on top of ffmpeg/avconv
[20:48] <OvenWerks> I was looking in our repos for simplescreenrecorder (not there) when I found it.
[20:48] <autumna> I think simplesoundrecorder might be breaking jack. it is a very new software
[20:48] <autumna> well... relatively speaking
[20:49] <autumna> patchage: symbol lookup error: patchage: undefined symbol: JACK_METADATA_PRETTY_NAME
[20:49] <autumna> does anyone have any idea what this means?
[20:50] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: did you manage to get sound?
[20:50] <OvenWerks> yes, OOTB
[20:50] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: in vokoscreen
[20:50] <OvenWerks> yes
[20:50] <sakrecoer> hmm.. i didn't...
[20:50] <OvenWerks> I used pulse.
[20:51] <sakrecoer> me too
[20:51] <OvenWerks> your audio has to be the default audio input
[20:51] <sakrecoer> yupp...
[20:51] <OvenWerks> I have all the sound cards turned off, so jack_source is the only input there :)
[20:52] <sakrecoer> ah, ok... let me try with jack..
[20:52] <sakrecoer> haha nevermind me :D
[20:52] <sakrecoer> maybe if i have volume on in the player it will help :D
[20:53] <OvenWerks> do not use the entry that says "Monitor" because the monitors pulses output rather than input.
[20:53] <sakrecoer> i actualy ticked both :D
[20:53] <sakrecoer> and it worked superfine (i was just being dumb)
[20:54] <sakrecoer> that lil webcam window is very handy also for ego-flattering tutorial :D
[20:54] <OvenWerks> I din't notice that as I have no webcam plugged in
[20:55] <OvenWerks> (so it is greyed out)
[20:55] <OvenWerks> Does it let you position the webcam window?
[20:56] <sakrecoer> yes! and stays on top :)
[20:56] <sakrecoer> i can even scale it to 25% tutorial, 75% me :D
[20:57] <sakrecoer> and stretch it so i look skinny
[20:58] <sakrecoer> (wrong place for stupid humour, sorry:) )
[20:59] <sakrecoer> however, its realy great. seems gentle on ressources even...
[20:59] <autumna> ok simplesoundrecorder does its job well, and seems to be good with framerates, and audio from pulse works. I do need to restart my computer to figure out what happened to my jack through
[20:59] <autumna> vokoscreen seems to be better through from what you describe. (goes to try that)
[20:59] <sakrecoer> although, i am running it on 14.04... and there is an indicator in the system tray
[21:04] <autumna> ok vokoscreen much more options and customizations but audio stuttering
[21:04] <autumna> with pulse audio sink at least
[21:04] <autumna> brb to restart system
[21:08] <sakrecoer> zequence: i got an idea for the feature tour on the website...
[21:09] <sakrecoer> zequence: i remember i was told by knome that it was possible to direct a subdomain to a different host... why don't we set-up a static website hosted on an ubuntstudio-github account?
[21:10] <sakrecoer> like feat.ubuntstudio.org
[21:11] <autumna> simplescreenrecorder, ok it might be that it updated jack not broke it, but the update broke patchage, so bad idea to install it on 14.04. *continues to play around*
[21:11] <sakrecoer> zequence: that way we could easily fix missed typos and such, while having a fresh layed out feature tour, where we can break the wordpress frame without heavy modules and bothering RT guys...
[21:13] <OvenWerks> autumna: The error you describe would be one of the few jack1/2 differences. Jack1 has pretty names, but not jack2 and they have not used "weak" linking as they should have. (weak linking allows for features that are in one version and not the other)
[21:14] <autumna> I see...
[21:15] <autumna> I am not quite sure at which stage I caused the upgrade
[21:16]  * OvenWerks is not sure "weaking linking"is quite the right term... weak is right, but not sure the other.
[21:16] <OvenWerks> Ubuntu studio has had jackd2 for many years.
[21:16] <autumna> then how did patchage work fine until now?
[21:16] <autumna> O.o
[21:16]  * autumna is laughing
[21:16] <autumna> did 14.04 have it?
[21:17] <OvenWerks> patchage is fine, though I have had the odd crash with it.
[21:17] <OvenWerks> autumna: studio 10.04 had jackd2
[21:17] <OvenWerks> maybe before
[21:18] <OvenWerks> https://github.com/jackaudio/jackaudio.github.com/wiki/Q_difference_jack1_jack2
[21:18] <OvenWerks> is the paper on the subject
[21:19] <OvenWerks> they should have been called jackd and jackdmp
[21:19] <autumna> *blinks* well patchage just started giving me that error in 14.04 after installing simplescreenrecorder, (assuming it wasn't something else I recently installed that broke it) I don't mind very much just, very confused. *goes to read*
[21:19] <OvenWerks> you may note that jack1 has a version < 1 and jackd2 has a version less than 2  :)
[21:21] <OvenWerks> simplescreenreader may be the problem then. file a bug report if you like.
[21:22] <OvenWerks> There are other applications that use pretty names (jack1 style) and do not crash patchage.
[21:22] <autumna> I might but I will have to test it on a fresh 14.04 install to reproduce the error. (either way it is not even in the ubuntu repository yet), and try it on 16.04 to see if it breaks anything, if we consider it to add to the repository
[21:23] <OvenWerks> It won't be there for 16.04 now, maybe 16.10 if it goes fast enough.
[21:23] <autumna> *nods*
[21:23] <OvenWerks> but the bug report should be upstream anyway. The dev should fix this as most of the world uses jackd 2
[21:24] <autumna> yeah, I am not even sure 100% that it was this alone that broke it
[21:24] <autumna> this is my normal install where things went weird.
[21:25] <OvenWerks> My version of vokoscreen did not have choppy audio on it. if you are using a webcam mic or internal laptop mic, you may try changing the pulseaudio default sample rate to 48000... known problem that some mics are 48000 only
[21:27] <OvenWerks> 48k being the windows standard.
[21:27] <autumna> I was using the computer audio
[21:28] <autumna> but let me try that after it
[21:37] <sakrecoer> works like a charm with jack here!
[21:37] <sakrecoer> vokoscreen
[21:38] <sakrecoer> the vokoscreen version shipped in 16.04 has much imporved GUI
[21:40] <autumna> with jack or jacksource?
[21:41] <OvenWerks> autumna: If I have both source and monitor selected while playing an MP3 I get audio crackling, but if I just have one or the other it works fine.
[21:41] <sakrecoer> i ticked both... :D
[21:41] <OvenWerks> I suspect this is a pulse artifact rather than vocoscreen.
[21:42] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I have a audio player playing an MP3 that may be a different SR than jack.
[21:42] <sakrecoer> SR?
[21:42] <OvenWerks> sample rate
[21:42] <autumna> OvenWerks: it is not cracking as much as stuttering (and probably dropping some frames.
[21:42] <sakrecoer> i didn't even touch the jack settings.
[21:43] <autumna> oh dear. I just crashed ffmpeg with vokoscreen. (this is the 14.04 version through)
[21:43] <sakrecoer> but in vokoscreen i picked "monitor of JAck sink" and "Jack Source"
[21:43] <OvenWerks> Ya, just one should sound better
[21:43] <sakrecoer> i haven't tested with headphones
[21:43] <OvenWerks> It depends what you are trying to record
[21:44] <sakrecoer> i was thinking "one might be my mic, other might be outpute of sodtware in pulsesink
[21:44] <sakrecoer> *output *software
[21:44] <autumna> OvenWerks: lets say I was pushing it to see performance.
[21:44] <autumna> :D
[21:46] <autumna> also one bad side of using the pulseaudio is that the audio level is affected by my computer audio level. which can be a good thing or bad thing.
[21:47] <autumna> (frankly both of these software are great. it is more nitpicking at this stage)
[21:47] <OvenWerks> autumna: my setup does not allow PA access to the audio cards levels.
[21:48] <autumna> OvenWerks: multiple purpose set up: everything from daily use to audio recording
[21:48] <autumna> :)
[21:49] <OvenWerks> I think If I wanted to record both the output of a desktop application and my mic at the same time I would take the application audio into jack mix and port it back into pulse for vokoscreen to record.
[21:51] <OvenWerks> Audacious does have jack out, but as I recall it tries to connect to everything in sight :P
[21:51] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: what is the difference between the 2 entries in vokoscreen, except as you said before "one should sound better" ?
[21:52] <OvenWerks> One records the default source (mic directly) and the other records what pulse is about to send your speaker.
[21:53] <autumna> vokoscreen has serious audio lag and chopping. newer version might be fixing it but as things stand yeah... (it is a well thought out interface through in uses where performance isn't an issue)
[21:53] <OvenWerks> So monitor is good to record a desktop application that uses pulse as its output. and the source is good to record mic in.
[21:55] <sakrecoer> thanks OvenWerks
[21:55] <sakrecoer> i don't find "jack mix"
[21:56] <OvenWerks> :)
[21:57] <sakrecoer> isn't that what you mean when you say "take the application audio into jack mix and port it back into pulse for vokoscreen to record." like just ticking both those options in vokoscreen?
[21:57] <OvenWerks> the idea was I would _something_ in jack to mix it, like ardour or non-mixer
[21:57] <sakrecoer> right. of course
[21:57] <OvenWerks> mixing in jack would be less likely to have PA aritfacts.
[21:58] <sakrecoer> yeah, also, to have decent voice over you might want to use a decent mic anyway, hence a decent soundcard..
[21:59] <OvenWerks> idjc is not bad for VO
[22:00] <OvenWerks> actually an easy mixer would be two jackracks with the right plugins.
[22:01] <OvenWerks> Carla would work too
[22:01] <sakrecoer> wouldn't idjc be a bit overkill just for VO?
[22:01] <OvenWerks> Could be.
[22:02] <sakrecoer> the mixer isn't particularily nice in it either..
[22:02] <sakrecoer> which reminds me i havn't checked it in 16.04 yet...
[22:03] <OvenWerks> There was another one... jackEQ maybe?
[22:03] <sakrecoer> i used to use idjc quite a lot..
[22:04] <sakrecoer> but not for mixing, just for radioshows..
[22:04] <OvenWerks> That is what it is for
[22:04] <sakrecoer> obviiously mixing 2 channels and a microphone, but not in the audio sense...
[22:04] <zequence> sakrecoer: It's no problem adding static pages to the community theme
[22:04] <zequence> There may even be some nice plugins for creating custom pages
[22:05] <zequence> ..which I think is probably the simplest of all
[22:05] <sakrecoer> zequence: ok, by static i mean html, not php..
[22:05] <sakrecoer> is that possible in wordpress
[22:05] <sakrecoer> ?
[22:05] <zequence> sakrecoer: I don't see the upside, tbh
[22:06] <sakrecoer> stuff like this: http://tfb.basspistol.com
[22:07] <zequence> It's good to be creative, but the main purpose is spreading information.
[22:07] <sakrecoer> maybe its possible with wordpress? i'm not very familiar with it. i know it was a real PITA with drupal...
[22:07] <sakrecoer> i'm purley talking about the feature tour
[22:07] <zequence> I realize that
[22:07] <sakrecoer> also, i don't vision something THAT extreme...
[22:07] <autumna> creating a feature tour is possible with wordpress plugins
[22:07] <sakrecoer> but i vision something more creative than a straight wordpress frame
[22:08] <zequence> Like autumna said
[22:08] <sakrecoer> sweet!
[22:08] <zequence> sakrecoer: You can experiment on our staging site if you want
[22:08] <sakrecoer> i lost the password
[22:08] <zequence> We can't install plugins ourselves on our main site, but once we know which ones we want, we can create an rt rticket
[22:09] <sakrecoer> yeah, but then we need to maintain those plugins updated? our will RT take care of that?
[22:09] <sakrecoer> i mean, wordpress is PHP, not sanitizing it is suicide
[22:10] <sakrecoer> ok, i read "we caN install plugins ourself" sorry
[22:10] <sakrecoer> that is what i am talking about.... it is so much work for nothing...
[22:10] <zequence> The other way around
[22:11] <zequence> Much easier to maintain
[22:11] <zequence> That's why peole use WP
[22:11] <sakrecoer> yes, the news part obviously..
[22:11] <autumna> sakrecoer: a) there is a LOT of wordpress sites out there. so if we chose a plugin that is well maintained, it is actually more secure. also I am guessing from zequence's comments here (feel free to correct me zequence) that they have a multi-install of wordpress.
[22:12] <sakrecoer> more secure than html?
[22:12] <zequence> sakrecoer: Why don't you start by learning some more about WP first, before you want to replace a perfectly good solution
[22:12] <autumna> so they just make sure the plugin is installed and everybody can enable and disable it at will, and wordpress has options to auto update.
[22:12] <sakrecoer> i'm not talking about replacing anything
[22:12] <zequence> sakrecoer: Did you get the code?
[22:12] <sakrecoer> yes
[22:12] <sakrecoer> thanks
[22:13] <sakrecoer> can i install plugins with that code zequence ?
[22:13] <zequence> The front page could use a custom look, which is hard without either hacking the theme yourself, or installing a plugin
[22:14] <zequence> sakrecoer: Yes, it's the admin password
[22:14] <sakrecoer> ok, so i don't need an ftp to add the plugin?
[22:14] <sakrecoer> nice
[22:14] <zequence> for http://ubuntustudio.zequence.net, that is
[22:14] <sakrecoer> yes:)
[22:14] <zequence> I do some php, so wouldn't be too hard for me to do something custom
[22:14] <sakrecoer> last time i had a wordpress you would have to upload the plugin to the ftp in order to enable it...
[22:15] <zequence> sakrecoer: Was that the last decade?
[22:15] <sakrecoer> acutaly yes :)
[22:15] <sakrecoer> but i opted for drupal :)
[22:15] <zequence> Only if the plugin is not in the WP plugin repo
[22:16]  * autumna has opinions about drupal
[22:16] <sakrecoer> me too
[22:16] <sakrecoer> i prefer jekyll
[22:16] <sakrecoer> jekyll made webdesign fun again, for me that is
[22:17] <autumna> sakrecoer: I know what you mean, and I do have some issues with wordpress (or rather themes being too clunky) but how does jekyll scale when you have multiple people editing the same pages?
[22:17] <zequence> Actually, you can upload plugins from the WP interface, I just noticed (when they are not from the WP repo)
[22:18] <sakrecoer> autumna: that is why i want to keep the wordpress, but let the _feature tour_ be a static html page. a sexy one
[22:19] <sakrecoer> but hey, it was just a suggestion...
[22:19] <autumna> sakrecoer: if your main site is wordpress you already have the clunk. what would be the adventage of having a separate site that is in a subdomain? especially with something essential like a feature tour (not a rhetorical question)
[22:19] <sakrecoer> autumna: also, with github pages, it becomes rather easy to be multiple users publishing to a jekyll site
[22:20] <sakrecoer> autumna: having a sexy layout, without having clunky sexy-layout plugins to maintain up to date
[22:21] <autumna> sakrecoer: sakrecoer maintaining well maintained plugins usually only involves clicking a button if that :)
[22:21]  * autumna fails at sentence building.
[22:21] <sakrecoer> nice, we will still look like everysite using that plugin out there :D
[22:22] <sakrecoer> but fine, i mean, it is obviously just med who sees an advantage, and it was just a suggestion
[22:22] <autumna> sakrecoer: but is that a bad thing? this is not an artistic layout, we want things to be easily accessible to people. so sometimes, familiar is not a bad thing.
[22:24]  * OvenWerks longs for olden days when html always autoformatted to whatever screen size one had...
[22:24] <autumna> if it is ok with zequence, you can look into creating a jekyll sample site to show everyone if you feel strongly. but do also try out wordpress. I think at this point what is the percentage? 70% of the sites out there is using it? in the end, the question is what is the goal of the website?
[22:24] <sakrecoer> sure, its not a bad thing. just a bit boring :D also, original, does not equal inaccessible :)
[22:24] <zequence> sakrecoer: Creating a custom page is pretty simple, so neeed for subdomains
[22:25] <sakrecoer> yes, that is the way i will go about autumna :)
[22:25] <zequence> I could set one up, if I'm reminded later this week
[22:25] <autumna> the primary job here is to do it in a cost effective way. is original more cost effective then modifying the conventional way, is the solution. or rather does the conventional solution have a big enough flaw that requires the extra effort of an original solution.
[22:26] <sakrecoer> zequence: i will remind you :)
[22:26] <sakrecoer> autumna: cost effective?
[22:27] <autumna> sakrecoer: is the original solution that we get will be better enough to justify the time spent to create the original solution?
[22:27] <sakrecoer> if i have to look into sollutions for WP, it will be more costeffective than if i had to look for a plain html sollution...
[22:27] <sakrecoer> but i guess, i will not be the one who do it :)
[22:27] <sakrecoer> oh.. that came off upside down
[22:28] <autumna> sakrecoer: heh yup, but I get what you mean. remember through it is important if it is cost effective for you in this scenario as the creator.
[22:28] <sakrecoer> if i have to look into it, static html will be more cost effective than investigating plugin options
[22:29] <sakrecoer> i think the wordpress is very good, the new theme is great and all :) its just the feature tour... i wish it could be more than just a blog page...
[22:29] <autumna> sakrecoer: but once you make a website it is also about people who will put the content in. if it is a system that is hard to use, people cannot directly contribute, so you will have to do all the moving content into the website people give you, or train others. so that also adds into effectiveness of the system.
[22:29] <sakrecoer> but i'm sure zequence has a good pair of tricks up his sleeve for that :)
[22:29] <autumna> I am not saying your option is bad, just trying to put things into context.
[22:30] <sakrecoer> autumna: yes, i know, that is why i am ONLY talking about the feature tour. because it soesnt need to be updated more than once every 6 month... (maybe even once every lts)
[22:32] <autumna> sakrecoer: that is still one of the parts of the site that gets updated most often unless I am mistaken. :)
[22:34] <zequence> sakrecoer: autumna: in WP, it's possible to add a custom page template, which can be used when creating a new page. The page can have custom CSS, which is the most essential part for the look
[22:35] <sakrecoer> cool! :) i'll start looking at the options. :)) do you have any idea of any nice custom page plugin zequence ?
[22:35] <zequence> One problem with WP plugins is that you first need to find one that works, and that may take some time and googling
[22:35] <zequence> sakrecoer: I would ask knome for advice on that
[22:35] <zequence> Once you found a plugin, it may have a learning curve
[22:36] <zequence> But, once you get past that, production is fast
[22:36] <sakrecoer> yeah, well, i could have a html feature tour finished tomorrow...
[22:36] <sakrecoer> autumna: the blog roll is what really gets updated..
[22:36] <zequence> sakrecoer: Ok. Do it.
[22:36] <zequence> We can see how we implement it later
[22:37] <sakrecoer> cool! :)
[22:37] <autumna> (zequence, sakrecoer my favorite rule of thumb is start with ones updated most, and has most users and browse by that, that in my experience cuts the searching by a lot :D.)
[22:38] <zequence> There are plugins that lets you add page templates. But, not sure how advanced those are
[22:38] <sakrecoer> autumna: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net that is the main page as designed by the good knome :)
[22:38] <zequence> Anyway, nighty time here. Catch you all later
[22:38] <sakrecoer> g'night!
[22:38] <OvenWerks> o/
[22:39] <autumna> ah. gnight zequence
[22:39] <sakrecoer> autumna: the template that is, and it's all experimental yet..
[22:39] <sakrecoer> i think...
[22:39] <sakrecoer> i mean, the content is experimental
[22:39] <sakrecoer> pics and text and so forth
[22:40] <autumna> sakrecoer: the designer in me has some nitpicks but that is expected. ;) overall this looks good. I'll poke at it over mobile browser tomorrow
[22:40] <sakrecoer> please do so!! :)
[22:41] <sakrecoer> and don't be affraid to express your opinions, ideas and whatnots! you will see i can be a bit stubborn at times, but it is often just a sign i'm struggling with understanding what is being comunicated to me :D
[22:42] <autumna> ... you guys might regret that
[22:42] <autumna> *laughs*
[22:42] <autumna> well though actually I have one comment about this layout really.
[22:46] <sakrecoer> ...in the next episode of "ubuntustudio website triangulation"
[22:46] <sakrecoer> ?
[22:46] <autumna> (sorry I am trying the right color, and figure out how to use firefox developer tools to tweak it)
[22:48] <sakrecoer> no, i am sorry :) there is no stress :)
[22:49] <autumna> no need to be sorry, I got distracted :D
[22:49] <autumna> I know I left you in a cliff hanger there ;D
[22:51] <sakrecoer> hmm... where do i find the plugins in WP? i see the ones that are installed, but i find no page to install browse available for install...
[22:52] <sakrecoer> oh got it :)
[22:55] <sakrecoer> i'm pretty sure this is a WP, and while it isn't exactly suited for us, i think somehting a but articulated like that would be great...http://olakalnins.com/
[22:56] <autumna> sakrecoer: https://wordpress.org/plugins/browse/popular/
[22:57] <sakrecoer> ty :)
[22:58] <autumna> np
[22:58] <autumna> https://wordpress.org/plugins/2j-slideshow/screenshots/ some sites use slideshows like this to do their feature tours. but I don't know what you are planning.
[23:01] <autumna> and as for the layout I would try replacing menu color from #009BF9 to some websafe color around #4485AC and see how it looks. :)
[23:03] <sakrecoer> :) i think 009bf9 is pretty sacred...
[23:03] <sakrecoer> its the "corporated blue" :D
[23:03] <sakrecoer> coporate* even
[23:04] <autumna> really? :D well the previous website wasn't using it so I assumed it was a safe feedback ;)
[23:04] <sakrecoer> which reminds me to link you to these pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryUbuntuStudioArtwork
[23:04] <sakrecoer> yeah, but the CoF (Circle Of Friends) is using it and well, it's the ubuntustudio blue :)
[23:06] <autumna> I did look at them. also didn't you have a wallpaper contest recently?
[23:06] <sakrecoer> websafe is a good idea in itself. i donät like to exclude places like africa, but i think even over there moste people have more than 216 colors by now..
[23:07] <autumna> or the exact color then
[23:08] <sakrecoer> we did have a contest yes :) you shoule be able to see the winning entries if you go into settings=>desktop
[23:08] <sakrecoer> exact color? you mean #339999? http://www.colorhexa.com/4485ac
[23:09] <autumna> like that
[23:10] <autumna> that is the websafe color. not the exact one
[23:10] <sakrecoer> more like 0099ff maybe :)
[23:11] <autumna> that's what you currently have yes
[23:11] <sakrecoer> colors and tastes... :D
[23:12] <sakrecoer> i think if you want to do something about them, you should try create an entire concept first :)
[23:13] <sakrecoer> 009bf9 is established and agreed, at this point it won't be changed. but with a good argumentation and a sollid proposal anything can happen
[23:14] <autumna> I have no problem with the color itself as part of the visual identity. it just shines a bit too much as the menu background in my opinion but you know what. I am not getting into a color argument on my 3rd day here. thanks
[23:14] <autumna> :D
[23:16] <sakrecoer> :D
[23:17] <sakrecoer> the diaporama plugin is a good suggestion tho!
[23:17] <autumna> I haven't tried that particular one but it seemed to be a pretty flexible one.
[23:18] <sakrecoer> yes, i will try install it and see what can be done :)
[23:19] <autumna> ok. I am off to sleep it is pretty late here. gnight! :)
[23:20] <sakrecoer> g'night!


[08:06] <czajkowski> popey: it's very you I thought :)
[12:52] <popey> why is twobottux spitting stuff here?
[12:58] <AlanBell> popey: there was talk of it reporting the community tag here, and it looks like that has been implemented
[13:06] <popey> oh ok
[13:07] <popey> that isnt a community question IMO ☺
[13:09] <IdleOne> doesn't the user select the tags?
[13:12]  * popey removes the community tag from that one :D
[13:18] <daker-cloud> popey: :)
[13:18] <popey> that ones dates from october last year!
[13:18] <daker-cloud> so someone is tagging them i think
[13:18] <popey> no
[13:19] <popey> it would say "edited" and the date
[13:19] <popey> that ones not been touched for months
[13:38] <daker-cloud> More spam https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+spec/currency-as-variable-passowrd
[16:35] <amithkk> Any problem?
[16:37] <amithkk> popey: Its still using the "Newest" sorting
[17:20] <daker-cloud> anyone able to open http://summit.ubuntu.com ?
[17:39] <Daviey> daker-cloud: No, looks like someone has broken it.. and i no longer have ssh access.
[17:39] <daker-cloud> Aie :/
[17:40] <daker-cloud> so this means the linaro summit aoo is down too
[17:42] <Daviey> Yas
[17:45] <popey> it redirects to http://www.falsehope.com/ here
[17:46] <popey> oh, my browser is "helping" me
[17:48] <Daviey> 302, < Location: http://false/?setCookie=1&contUrl=http%3a%2f%2fsummit.ubuntu.com%2f
[17:48] <daker-cloud> Daviey: me too
[18:16] <mhall119> wow, that's not good
[18:27] <JanC> popey: you browser or your ISP/DNS server?
[18:29] <IdleOne> popey: same here, trying to redirect to flasehope
[18:29] <IdleOne> err fals.com that is
[18:29] <IdleOne> false*
[18:31] <JanC> that too just fails to load here ("server not found")
[22:02] <daker-cloud> mhall119: cjohnston who wants to edit/delete his comments http://people.ubuntu.com/~daker/inline-edit.png :)


[02:24] <one> What is GPIO?
[03:18] <one> Under what menu label is the shpchp driver?
[04:57] <one> Under what menu label is the shpchp driver?
[07:18] <one> Hi
[09:14] <one> Gnome disks isn't working
[09:19] <one> I want to save the build tools to disk.
[09:19] <one> Why is module 1 ignored by the build system?
[13:36] <jarkko> guys you should really do something about RALINK wifi device, it spams constantly dropping packets
[13:36] <jarkko> reported issue, done that since 3.8 series
[13:54] <apw> spams that it has dropped a packet it has dropped or ones it has not
[13:54] <apw> and whats the bug #
[14:13] <one> hy is the module '1' ignored by the debian build system?
[14:14] <one> Cr. why
[14:38] <lstargz> Hi guys, how to load a custom kernel module for usb keyboard (I have written the module) or in other words how to prevent usbhid or hid-generic taking over usb drive ?
[14:44] <amitk> lstargz: assuming usbhid is a module, you could blacklist it
[14:45] <lstargz> I blacklisted the module (yes they are not loading). My module loads, but it does not show any message in dmesg
[14:47] <lstargz> While i custom load it, it works
[14:48] <amitk> lstargz: you mean manual insmod'ing works, autoloading doesnt?
[14:48] <lstargz> yes
[14:49] <rtg> depmod -a ?
[14:49] <lstargz> depmod -a gives blank output
[14:50] <rtg> use the modules_install target for your build. I think it does the right thing
[14:51] <lstargz> do you mean, i put it in kernel source and build the whole kernel and install ?
[14:52] <lstargz> I can only use one of these: depmod / kmod / udev / mdev / systemd, depending on distro)
[14:52] <rtg> lstargz, no, I'm assuming you have a kbuild compatible Makefile.
[14:54] <lstargz> This is my make file:
[14:54] <lstargz> obj-m += task05.o
[14:54] <lstargz> all:
[14:54] <lstargz> 	make -C $(KERN_ROOT) M=$(PWD) modules
[14:54] <lstargz> clean:
[14:54] <lstargz> 	make -C $(KERN_ROOT) M=$(PWD) clean
[14:55] <rtg> try adding 'sudo make -C $(KERN_ROOT) M=$(PWD) modules_install'
[14:55] <lstargz> In which target (all or new something like install)
[14:57] <lstargz> Anyways, I have already copied task05.ko into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers. Is this required after that ?
[15:05] <one> What command specifies the architechure to build?
[15:06] <one> Also is a 32bit userspace going to still run if a 64 bit kernel is built?
[15:07] <lstargz> rtg: Thanks it worked (after adding install).
[15:16] <jsalisbury> **
[15:16] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[15:16] <jsalisbury> **
[15:34] <coolman_bg84> hello to all
[15:34] <coolman_bg84> i'm new in linux kernel
[15:35] <coolman_bg84> but i wanna copile kernel
[15:35] <coolman_bg84> and have this error
[15:35] <coolman_bg84> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic/arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl', needed by `arch/x86/syscalls/../include/generated/uapi/asm/unistd_32.h'.  Stop.
[15:35] <coolman_bg84> make: *** [archheaders] Error 2
[15:37] <coolman_bg84> can a help me plsss
[15:56] <apw> coolman_bg84, what source are you using, and what exactly are you trying to build
[15:56] <apw> the error there looks like you are missing the headers package
[15:58] <coolman_bg84> sudo make menuconfig
[15:58] <coolman_bg84> and make -j 4
[16:00] <coolman_bg84> i have headers package
[16:00] <coolman_bg84> apw, linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic
[16:02] <bjf> coolman_bg84, have you looked at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:07] <coolman_bg84> bjf, no
[16:07] <coolman_bg84> bjf, i will look 10x :)
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ## Meeting starting now - #ubuntu-meeting
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:15] <coolman_bg84> ok the meeting start and what about kernel
[17:21] <apw> coolman_bg84, it happened over on #ubuntu-meeting
[17:22] <coolman_bg84> apw, ok
[17:46] <coolman_bg84> Which editor is good for writing c code?
[17:46] <coolman_bg84> vi?
[17:50] <infinity> vim
[17:58] <apw> coolman_bg84, whichever editor you know well, i use vim
[18:00] <ogra_> all editors work ... as long as they are vim
[18:00] <ogra_> :)
[18:00] <antarus> I write kernel code in wordstar
[18:00] <antarus> like a boss
[18:01] <antarus> (and like George R. R. Martin, apparently)
[18:15] <infinity> antarus: Can you still obtain wordstar for any modern operating systems, or is GRRM using a Tandy CoCo3?
[18:17] <antarus> no idea
[18:17] <infinity> Wikipedia seems to imply it's been dead since the Win3.x port.
[18:17] <antarus> he uses DOS
[18:17] <antarus> according to the internet
[18:18] <infinity> The Internet wouldn't lie.
[18:19] <ogra_> i assume you can run it in dosemu or dosbox
[18:19] <ogra_> or however these dos emulators are called today
[18:19] <apw> ogra_, on your phone
[18:19] <ogra_> ++
[18:19] <ogra_> :)
[18:19] <infinity> And possibly in cmd.exe on NT, though that's iffy, depending on what it does.
[18:19] <ogra_> my next project
[18:20] <infinity> So, he may be using a computer from 1994.
[18:20] <ogra_> a click package with a statically built dosbox and wordstar included
[18:20] <infinity> ogra_: Hah.  And ship a sample phone to GRRM?
[18:20] <ogra_> yeah !
[18:21] <infinity> Ubuntu: Helping to kill your favourite fictional characters since 2014.
[18:21] <ogra_> not bad ... after we rendered avatar already ... thats the next big thing
[18:21] <antarus> thats gross
[18:23] <bjf> infinity, that's hostile and probably against the CoC
[18:23] <infinity> bjf: Heh.