[16:50] <ActionParsnip> reality_: tried the pastebinit script?
[16:50] <auronandace> reality_: you saying your log is too large to paste?
[16:51] <reality_> auronandace no it's not too large, but pastebin gives error: The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.      The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
[16:52] <reality_> ActionParsnip what was the purpose of that command you gave me? ps -ef | grep -i tor
[16:52] <auronandace> reality_: to see it in your process list
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> reality_: shows if there are any commands with the letters "tor" in..
[16:53] <reality_> auronandace: ActionParsnip: there comes many lines with tor in them, tor is in red color
[16:54] <reality_> i can't use pastebin or pastie, let me see if i can paste it somewhere else
[16:54] <jellow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ works for me.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> reality_: yes, that's the idea :-)
[17:00] <reality_> ActionParsnip it is strange i can go to all text pasting sites and can paste my text there, but can't publish them, all of them gives errors when i post my text :/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> reality_: not sure. Try a few services
[17:02] <harishkrupo> i am interested to know how  update-grub detects the name of the distribution
[17:07] <harishkrupo>  i am interested to know how  update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution
[17:07] <reality_> ActionParsnip how to private chat you? i will show you my log in private chat, i can't paste it on any text sharing sites :(
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I don't need the log. If you see processes running then it's ok
[17:08] <reality_> ActionParsnip so why i can't use tor? no browser connect to tor?
[17:08] <reality_> ActionParsnip how can i see if my tor is connected to tor network?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> reality_: no idea. I don't use tor.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I think it's a waste of time
[17:09] <reality_> ActionParsnip: no i use it, it's very important to me
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> reality_: why?
[17:10] <harishkrupo> does anybody know how update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution?
[17:10] <k1l_> harishkrupo: look at the grub scripts.
[17:11] <reality_> ActionParsnip: so many reasons, security, privacy, and i use public cable net connection which is a lan, and many sites including youtube are blocked in my country i need to open them, and many others
[17:11] <harishkrupo> @k1l_ where are they located?
[17:11] <rik_ferreira> hello, how can i improve the boot time in ubuntu gnome?
[17:11] <k1l_> harishkrupo: /etc/grub.d/
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> reality_: but you are swapping one unknown network (the Internet) for another (tor) how does this improve security?
[17:11] <kokut> So, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?
[17:11] <k1l_> rik_ferreira: buy a ssd
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> hahah
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> im serious
[17:12] <k1l_> rik_ferreira: its hard to tell if you dont provide informations on what is "blocking" etc
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> i need general information
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> sorry my bad english
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> im br
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: uninstall unnecessary services.
[17:13] <OerHeks> rik_ferreira, use bootchart to find out what takes so long
[17:13] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: how long does the system take to boot?
[17:13] <iLoveLobster> Anyone know there way around mdadm?
[17:13] <rik_ferreira> about 30 seconds
[17:13] <OerHeks> and remove it after use
[17:13] <iLoveLobster> Need some help rebuilding an array from an older system
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: and how many times do you boot in a week?
[17:14] <OerHeks> 30 sec + wireless is not that long
[17:14] <autopoiesis> how can i connect to this irc from pidgin?
[17:14] <reality_> ActionParsnip: i can use internet anonymously and access the sites and information which government does not want us to see
[17:14] <reality_> ActionParsnip: you might not understand that if you live in a free countary :/
[17:14] <almark> put your stuff on a fine ssd rik_ferreira
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> reality_: how do you know what happens inside the tor network?
[17:14] <almark> you'll be impressed how fast your system will boot
[17:15] <rik_ferreira> yes, its not that long, but i'll try the bootchart
[17:15] <rik_ferreira> thank you guys
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I understand accessing sites not accessible before  but it certainly isn't any more secure
[17:15] <autopoiesis> how can i connect to this irc from pidgin?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: add an account using the inconvenience protocol. Set the server to irc.freenode.net
[17:16] <someonemad> https://www.archlinux.org/news/filesystem-upgrade-manual-intervention-required-1/ what is the ubuntu equivalent to this??? i'm trying to fix this systemd thing that won't let me boot!!!
[17:16] <reality_> ActionParsnip: lets not have a debate if tor is any different then a normal network in security, but i find it better to stay anonymous online. and i can protect my stuff by encryption when it leaves my pc,
[17:16] <reality_> ActionParsnip: im here to take any help to get my tor running
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> reality_: that's why we have https
[17:17] <vanishing> :q
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[17:17] <someonemad> "error getting authority error initializing authority could not connect no such file or directory"
[17:17] <reality_> ActionParsnip: what good is an https if the site tracks you and gives your identity to your government?
[17:17] <iLoveLobster> can anyone point me in the right direction on help with mdadm?
[17:17] <someonemad> "Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)"
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> reality_: do you seriously think tor is a complete cover?
[17:19] <kokut> Hello, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> iLoveLobster: I'd just make a new array then reinstate the data from your backups
[17:19] <reality_> ActionParsnip: yes i think so, or atleast it makes it difficult,
[17:20] <someonemad> "Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)" this is a policykit issue according to the systemd developer, i really need help trying to get my pc to boot!!!!
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> reality_: so why don't all Web paedophiles use it and never get caught?
[17:20] <autopoiesis> ActionParsnip: i get this buddie list thing, is my first time using pidgin, i used IRC protocol and put irc.freenode.net as server... but get nothing?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> reality_: it's not a complete cover at all. You are deluded
[17:20] <ioria> someonemad, are prompted to a command ?
[17:21] <reality_> ActionParsnip: on what bases do you make that claim?
[17:21] <_guest_> whats a good video making program?
[17:21] <someonemad> ioria: not at all, it only gives it to me when it says "Welcome to emergency mode!"
[17:21] <someonemad> after 5 minutes..
[17:21] <OerHeks> autopoiesis, did you see our wiki ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin#Configuring_Pidgin_for_Ubuntu_IRC
[17:21] <vitimiti> reality_, even the tor page warns you that it's not a complete cover
[17:22] <vitimiti> reality_, and it also depends on the people using tor near you
[17:22] <zerowaitstate> reality_: tor really only defeats traffic analysis. a government agency can run a honeypot over tor as easily as over a regular network. that's why political activists are harder to catch than pedophiles
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> reality_: because the Web is monitored for stuff like that and authorities are sent in to apprehend. How do you think they find Dave Wrong with thousands of inappropriate images?
[17:22] <ioria> someonemad, but do you have a prompt ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> reality_: again deluded
[17:23] <someonemad> i'm getting into one hopefully
[17:23] <reality_> vitimiti: yes thats true, thats what i said, atleast it makes it difficult to identify you, until you are doing a serious crime, nobody is going to give a damn to search and trace your identity from tor
[17:23] <autopoiesis1> thank you OerHeks!
[17:23] <ioria> someonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:23] <HotSwap> iLoveLobster, if all disks are available, an mdadm --assemble --scan --verbose should do it and tell you whats happening.  though if you dont have backups, id read up on man mdadm and be careful :)
[17:24] <someonemad> ugh, okay so in recovery mode it's giving me that same freaking error g-io-error-quark, 1
[17:24] <someonemad> ioria: i have to wait 5 freaking minutes now
[17:24] <someonemad> JUST to get to a prompt
[17:25] <autopoiesis1> my nickname changed tho
[17:25] <reality_> ActionParsnip: then what do you suggest to people? to just give up on securing themselves and not struggle ?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> reality_: realise that you are always watched. It helps the Web
[17:26] <k1l_> autopoiesis1: you can only have a nickname once and not from 2 different clients at the same time
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> i'm gonna try reconnect
[17:26] <reality_> ActionParsnip: if everyone starts using tor will it not help protecting our identity?
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> tiat
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> kek
[17:26] <k1l_> autopoiesis1: "/nick newnick"
[17:27] <autopoiesis> thank you :)
[17:27] <k1l_> !irc | autopoiesis
[17:27] <someonemad> i think i understand why most people hate systemd now
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> reality_: a little but  not as far as you seem to think.
[17:28] <someonemad> ioria: are you still here?
[17:28] <ioria> yup
[17:29] <someonemad> okay good, still loading to a prompt still
[17:29] <reality_> ActionParsnip: zerowaitstate: vitimiti: anyways, thanks for having this chat, i must find a way to get tor running. see you next time, i will go and install other linux where tor is running.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> reality_: as you wish. Ubottu gave a guide to install it.
[17:30] <HotSwap> reality_, didn't you get enough help for installing tor here?
[17:31] <HotSwap> action isnt being any help, but the bot's pasta was useful
[17:31] <someonemad> blah, screw recovery mode, just gonna hard reset and brb in 10 minutes
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: little tip, I triggered Ubottu. She only responds to triggers
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Hots
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: so, by proxy,  I was helpful
[17:33] <fiZLik> hello
[17:33] <HotSwap> ActionParsnip, protip: stop being condescending and giving tips and unwanted advice
[17:34] <fiZLik> i need some help about permissions
[17:34] <HotSwap> i know how bots work, and reality specifically asked not to debate the usefulness of tor
[17:34] <fiZLik> how to add write,read and delete permission to some folder?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: the guy wanted to install tor. I gave the official document for Ubuntu on how to install it. How is that "unwanted advice"?
[17:35] <fiZLik> i tried with sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder
[17:35] <ioria> chmod   u, g, a +(or -) r, w, x
[17:35] <fiZLik> and patch at the end
[17:36] <zykotick9> fiZLik: note, you can't use POSIX permissions on FAT or NTFS volumes...
[17:36] <someonemad> ioria: okay got a prompt
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: was about to ask that
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: is the folder on an NTFS partition?
[17:36] <ioria> someonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ;)
[17:36] <someonemad> it says "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type "sournalctl -xb" to view system logs.."
[17:36] <someonemad> okay
[17:37] <someonemad> it says /usr/sbin/lightdm
[17:37] <someonemad> ioria: ^^^
[17:37] <someonemad> that's for unity on ubuntu
[17:37] <fiZLik> ActionParsnip: sorry i dont know
[17:38] <ioria> someonemad, try sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service  -f
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: what is the folder you are manipulating?
[17:38] <fiZLik> some lampp folder
[17:38] <wok12> hello everyone, time display has disappeared from my upper bar, and the clock tab in system settings is grayed. what could be happening? how can I correct it?
[17:38] <someonemad> it gives me a bunch of error initializing authority's
[17:38] <fiZLik> i cant delete topics on the forum
[17:39] <someonemad> No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[17:39] <OerHeks> fiZLik, only admins can do that.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: that will reduce security drastically
[17:39] <autopoiesis> wok12 that's a common ubuntu bug
[17:39] <fiZLik> yeah im admin of forum
[17:39] <autopoiesis> google's third search result is the answer
[17:39] <thenewone> Hi guys
[17:39] <OerHeks> fiZLik, ubuntuforums?
[17:39] <thenewone> sup
[17:39] <fiZLik> no
[17:40] <wok12> with which search word?
[17:40] <someonemad> ioria: please don't tell me i have to reinstall..
[17:40] <fiZLik> my personal forum
[17:40] <OerHeks> fiZLik, oh, then it is not an ubuntu issue. see your forum software manual for a howto
[17:40] <autopoiesis> wok12: on terminal:
[17:40] <autopoiesis> killall unity-panel-service
[17:40] <fiZLik> yes
[17:41] <fiZLik> i need to add permission for the folder where is my forum installed
[17:41] <fiZLik> for deleting
[17:41] <autopoiesis> wok12 i literally just searched time disappear ubuntu and the second result on google was this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371374/where-did-the-menu-bar-clock-go/371387#371387
[17:41] <ioria> someonemad, do you have a windows partition ?
[17:41] <someonemad> nope, but i do have a separate /home partition
[17:41] <fiZLik> i have lampp server installed on ubuntu
[17:41] <someonemad> with btrfs
[17:42] <someonemad> on a separate hard drive
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: Google search results change user to user due to the bubble
[17:42] <wok12> autopoiesis, sorry for asking without knowing, but sounds like killing all panel activity, no?
[17:42] <ioria> someonemad, did you put it in fstab ?
[17:42] <someonemad> ioria: that was the only way i could get it on my separate hard drive, so yes
[17:42] <autopoiesis> it is, even though it works as a reset
[17:42] <wok12> would that not kill other needed processes?
[17:43] <autopoiesis> but it would reset them all
[17:43] <ioria> someonemad, maybe is your fstab ruined.you can boot from live mount rw and comment the line
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: http://dontbubble.us/ explains the Google bubble well
[17:43] <someonemad> hmm.. alright
[17:43] <autopoiesis> have no fear man, it wouldn't be the most upovoted answer on askubuntu if it wasn't the right one
[17:43] <wok12> ok :)
[17:44] <autopoiesis> that was a beautiful link ActionParsnip, thank you, i actually use duckduckgo as my default search engine, but most people aren't sofa kings like me haha
[17:44] <wok12> oh, yes, it is back right away, autopoiesis. thank you very much!
[17:45] <autopoiesis> i helped, yei!
[17:45] <fiZLik> someone know how to add read,write and delete permission or is it right permission "sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder/"
[17:46] <jParkton> it is binary math
[17:46] <jParkton> 755 is usually good
[17:46] <jParkton> 644 for hosting
[17:46] <fiZLik> i tried that
[17:46] <jParkton> what is the issue?
[17:47] <fiZLik> lampp server and forum installed on it
[17:47] <someonemad> ioria: what do i do when i boot into the live environment/
[17:47] <OerHeks> fiZLik, what forum software?
[17:47] <fiZLik> myupb
[17:48] <fiZLik> forum..myupb.com
[17:48] <jParkton> fiZLik: that is way too complex, some folders will need 644, some 655, some 755
[17:48] <autopoiesis> if i click conversation->join a chat->join will i log off of this chat?
[17:48] <jParkton> isnt there some install docs?
[17:48] <fiZLik> ok
[17:48] <fiZLik> i will try all of that
[17:48] <fiZLik> thx
[17:48] <ioria> someonemad, first find your partition (sudo fdisk -l) then mount --options remount,rw / , mount partition , modfy fstab, unmount and reboot
[17:49] <jParkton> autopoiesis: no clue, unknown client, unknown all that try it and see
[17:49] <fiZLik> i tried with 777 and 755
[17:49] <jParkton> dont use 777
[17:49] <fiZLik> why?
[17:49] <OerHeks> 777 might have broken the forumsoftware
[17:49] <saegeoff> hey has anyone noticed ppa.launchpad.net is returning a 404?
[17:49] <autopoiesis> jParkton, i' actually sorry i asked such a stupid question instead of just trying
[17:49] <autopoiesis> it didn't, btw
[17:50] <fiZLik> i install forum with 777
[17:50] <bekks> fiZLik: Thats the most insecure install possible then.
[17:50] <k1l_> saegeoff: please put a "sudo apt update" into a pastebin
[17:50] <fiZLik> ok
[17:50] <fiZLik> thx for info
[17:50] <skies> new here.....any information on how to play around the command line will be appreciated\
[17:50] <nkooo83> yo
[17:50] <jParkton> autopoiesis: nice :)
[17:51] <jParkton> skies: open/type
[17:51] <aramil> can someone help me please im trying to update my lubuntu install from 14.04 to 15.04 and it gets stuck at Removing conflicting operating system files
[17:51] <jParkton> aramil: can you paste the exact error on a pastepad somewhere?
[17:52] <zykotick9> aramil: fyi, you'd need to go 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04...
[17:52] <saegeoff> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/9qKDuWWR
[17:52] <aramil> its the version my dad burned for me because my grub broke so my pc cant boot at all
[17:53] <k1l_> saegeoff: that is not the end, right?
[17:53] <saegeoff> i piped to a file
[17:53] <saegeoff> let me see
[17:53] <bekks> aramil: you need to update to 14.10 before you can update to 15.04
[17:53] <jParkton> ohhh
[17:53] <jParkton> did you edit your sources?
[17:54] <saegeoff> k1l_: there was a W: Failed to fetch ... and then 404.. nothing else
[17:54] <k1l_> saegeoff: but as you can see, its not ppa.launchpad.net but its the ppas you use that error. because the ppa is not available anymore or doesnt have trusty packages at all.
[17:54] <k1l_> saegeoff: so check your ppas
[17:54] <aramil> i just want to fix my grub and i thought upgrading will do it because boot-repair did not work
[17:55] <saegeoff> l1l_: oh, I didn't realize.  Thanks for that info
[17:55] <autopoiesis> aramil: it probably will
[17:55] <autopoiesis> aramil: but you need to go 14.10 first, then 15.04
[17:55] <saegeoff> k1l_: thanks.. that makes sense.  Do you have any good sources I could read more about apt?  I am not new to linux but I only know enough about apt to get by
[17:55] <autopoiesis> oh, someone already said that
[17:55] <aramil> is there anyway to fix it with out upgrading?
[17:56] <thenewone> use pacman it's faster than apt
[17:56] <saegeoff> isn't pacman for arch?
[17:56] <jParkton> aramil: no idea what is really going on without actual errors
[17:56] <jParkton> yes it is
[17:56] <k1l_> thenewone: stop that nonsense
[17:56] <jParkton> for real
[17:56] <thenewone> lol
[17:57] <k1l_> !apt | saegeoff
[17:57] <saegeoff> I've used arch.. I thought it was a great learning experience and I ran it for about 6 months, but I gave it up because my goal is to program on linux and not debug an OS
[17:57] <jParkton> Muon is horrible
[17:57] <saegeoff> Ubuntu isn't perfect but it is much more stable than Arch IMO and Ubuntu gets great support since it is popular.  That is why I use Ubuntu.
[17:57] <aramil> i will load up the installer again to check for errors
[17:57] <jParkton> ok
[17:58] <aramil> windows 10 is evil because my boot loader broke after i removed it
[17:58] <autopoiesis> arch is for learning and spending a lot of time doing a lot of simple things in just easy 45 steps
[17:59] <jParkton> Yeah stop installing Linux kindasorta
[17:59] <jParkton> install and remove winblows
[17:59] <ejuan> aramil, i unplug my ubuntu hard drive when i install windows then plug it back in after and use the bios to select whatever os i want to boot.
[17:59] <aramil> how do i share a screen shot on here?
[17:59] <saegeoff> @auto, I agree.   Arch is great for learning how it all works but it is a huge distraction.  The guys I know disagree with me, never update their packages once it is stable for them. So I really can't use their "stability" as a proof that it works great
[18:00] <SchrodingersScat> !screenshot | aramil
[18:00] <jParkton> aramil: are you on the computer with the issue?
[18:00] <autopoiesis> there's a lot of arch elitism on r/unixporn haha they're super funny about it tho
[18:00] <aramil> http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:01] <k1l_> guys, lets stick to actual ubuntu support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the other chat
[18:01] <ioria> ejuan: you have uefi ?
[18:01] <ejuan> ioria, yeah
[18:01] <ioria> ejuan: and you didn't run update-grub ?
[18:02] <ioria> ejuan: after reinserting the ubuntu disk, i mean
[18:02] <arcsky> if i set IP address on my eth0 interface with ifconfig. why does it lost its address after some time?
[18:02] <ejuan> accually I think my ubuntu install is not efi, its just legacy bios, now that I think about it.
[18:03] <jParkton> arcsky: dhcpclient?
[18:03] <ejuan> but I can do a update-grub no problem after a kernel update.
[18:03] <aramil> so i might of broke ubuntu if you look at the pic i sent it says its unknown
[18:03] <ioria> ejuan: ok, that's interesting :-)
[18:04] <Floobynooby> Hi! Work laptop, no admin privs; trying to make a bootable USB thumb drive. Have ubuntu .iso. Have thumbdrive. No have admin privs. Any hope?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> saegeoff: I wouldn't say it teaches you that much. Gentoo is a whole different kettle of fish
[18:04] <jParkton> aramil: that may be due to Lubuntu rather than Ubuntu
[18:04] <arcsky> jParkton: ps aux |grep dhcpclient doesnt running
[18:04] <jParkton> arcsky: that might be the issue
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> ejuan, when you upgrade the kernel with apt-get it should run update-grub automagically
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: is unetbootin installed?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: or USB disk creator?
[18:05] <jParkton> aramil: why not just install
[18:05] <jParkton> or is there some really important stuff
[18:05] <Floobynooby> Action: Nope! Can't install without Admin privs. Portable version can't run without admin privs, either.
[18:06] <aramil> well i have my steam games, game saves and a bunch of other stuff
[18:06] <Floobynooby> Nor USB Disk Creator
[18:06] <Floobynooby> It's a generic work windows laptop.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: have you checked in Dash? Ubuntu comes with a disk creator application by default
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: oh windows
[18:07] <Floobynooby> yeah: Oh, Windows!
[18:07] <harishkrupo> ActionParsnip, even disk creator requires root or admin priv
[18:07] <Floobynooby> Windows can burn an .iso to DVD, but of course that's not bootable.
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: doesn't the PenDriveLinux application work in Windows?
[18:07] <Zai-Cesuo> hello ubuntu channel! where do i need to go if i need someone to help me out with a little problem?
[18:08] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: yes, every trick I've tried requires admin privs.
[18:08] <aramil> floobynooby: how about trying wubi?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: burning to DVD will make a bootable DVD
[18:08] <bekks> Zai-Cesuo: You already are there :) Just ask your question.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aramil: Wubi is dead
[18:08] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby, yes the stage where you will need to install syslinux requires root
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aramil: Wubi hasn't been developed for THREE years now...
[18:08] <Floobynooby> ActionParsnip: Ah! Well that's what I'll try then.
[18:09] <Zai-Cesuo> thank you! I have just made the major decision to stop with the virtual ubuntu box and properly"
[18:09] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby burning to dvd should work
[18:09] <Zai-Cesuo> install it. unfortunately it doesnt show up my "windows 7" in the boot up anymore
[18:09] <aramil> yes but wubi will allow him to boot into ubuntu make a liveusb there
[18:09] <bazhang> !wubi | aramil
[18:10] <k1l_> you dont need to install wubi to make a live usb then.
[18:10] <bazhang> see the message above aramil Do NOt Use Wubi
[18:11] <Floobynooby> Harishkrupo, ActionParsnip: Thanks, will try burning to dvd, then boot into linux, then make a proper usb from there. (Pendrive points to UUi, which requires admin privs.) Thank you both!!!
[18:11] <Zai-Cesuo> the day before yesterday i plugged in a new SSD alongside my HDD. My HDD already had a windows 7 home version. And my SSD got a new Windows ultimate version (everything 64 bit). Now installed ubuntu onto the SSD. In the startup it shows me ubuntu and Windows 7. Unfortunately only the HDD one. Can i do anything about it?
[18:11] <Caleb--> hi
[18:11] <Caleb--> has anyone experienced random reboots with ubuntu 15.04?
[18:12] <bekks> Caleb--: How does a poll solve your actual problem?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: if you have burned the DVD right you will see many files. If you see only one then you have not burned the file correctly. Also if you extracted the file like so many Windows users do, this is also incorrect
[18:12] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby, why need pendrive when you have a live system?
[18:12] <Caleb--> i don't know if this is ubuntu 15.04 or the samsung 840 evo firmware upgrade that's causing them as i upgraded both pretty much at the same time
[18:12] <k1l_> Caleb--: see the logs for what is going on. there is not a "general reboot issue" with 15.04
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Caleb--: have you tested your RAM health using Memtest86 from Grub?
[18:12] <Caleb--> yes
[18:12] <Caleb--> RAM is ok
[18:12] <Caleb--> i already had a corrupted filesystem because of a reboot, so i formatted again
[18:13] <bekks> Caleb--: Why didnt you repair the FS instead?
[18:13] <Caleb--> bekks,  i did, but lots of files seemed to be corrupted
[18:13] <aramil> so is there anyway for me to fix my boot loader without installing 15.04 because im on a livecd right now
[18:14] <kdzar> hi i have a question with upgrading to 14.04
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> aramil: OmgUbuntu has a guide called "sticking it to Grub"
[18:14] <jParkton> kdzar: what is the issue?
[18:15] <kdzar> jParkton its not recommended i do it via ssh, what do i do it with?
[18:15] <jParkton> is it your server?
[18:15] <k1l_> kdzar: what machine is it?
[18:15] <kdzar> its a vps
[18:15] <aramil> no it looks like my lubuntu install broke because when i run the installer it says unknown linux distro
[18:15] <jParkton> dont worry about that, just ssh in and upgrade
[18:15] <kdzar> jParkton u sure :o nervous
[18:16] <jParkton> kdzar: yeah it usually is fine
[18:16] <kdzar> what do u think k1l_ ?
[18:16] <k1l_> kdzar: if all goes wrong it could leave the system in a state where you need to reset/reinstall it from the recovery. but since you dont have physikcal access to most servers you need to upgrade them over ssh
[18:16] <jParkton> I think once maybe 5 years ago one went bad on me but that was the only time I ever saw
[18:16] <k1l_> kdzar: have a backup
[18:16] <jParkton> ^
[18:17] <kdzar> k1l_ i dont even know how to make a backup
[18:17] <jParkton> if it is digital ocean there is a backup on their side
[18:17] <k1l_> !backup | kdzar
[18:17] <kdzar> besides diskspace issue
[18:17] <jParkton> kdzar: just upgrade lol
[18:17] <k1l_> kdzar: and see if your hoster got some backup solutions for your setup already
[18:17] <autopoiesis> sdd backup, because best backup.
[18:17] <jParkton> it will be fine
[18:17] <kdzar> ok
[18:17] <kdzar> i wont do it know
[18:17] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: On windows, have no admin privs. Would like to boot laptop into Ubuntu and leave the machine untouched;  work in Ubuntu with persistence. Problem: on the road with only the windows laptop. How to boot this machine into Ubuntu without changing anything but one of the two thumbdrives I have? Once in Ubuntu, I can follow howtos and create a persisitent installation with storage on thumbdrive, and just boot into that wh
[18:17] <Caleb--> k1l_, i looked in journalctl, but i don't see anything helpful. just logs about my cron jobs and then suddenly a "-- Reboot --"
[18:17] <kdzar> have to reseash this do release upgrade over ssh
[18:18] <jParkton> that is a digital ocean script
[18:18] <k1l_> Caleb--: see syslog and the old syslog.0 or syslog.1 in /var/log
[18:18] <jParkton> you can just sudo su and apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[18:18] <kdzar> why not do release?
[18:19] <k1l_> dont do sudo su on ubuntu
[18:19] <jParkton> it is just a script digitalocean puts on their droplets
[18:19] <nith1210> Floobynooby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[18:19] <jParkton> it is the exact same thing as dist-upgrade -y
[18:19] <jParkton> k1l_: really? Why not?
[18:19] <kdzar> do-release-upgrade
[18:19] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: so it looks like the solution is, burn .iso to DVD with windows' built-in command. That should take no admin privs. Then boot from DVD and I'm in Ubuntu and in the clear.
[18:19] <k1l_> jParkton: env variables.
[18:19] <jParkton> weird
[18:19] <kdzar> surely making usb bootable is easier
[18:20] <k1l_> sudo -i for that
[18:20]  * jParkton is on Kubuntu
[18:20] <jParkton> so different a little
[18:20] <aramil> cant i install ubuntu on a different partition  then more my home folder to it then remove my reinstall my old ubuntu then more the stuff back?
[18:20] <jParkton> aramil: not really
[18:20] <Zai-Cesuo> hm so nobody here who could help me with the grub problem?
[18:20] <Floobynooby> nith1210: will check that out, thank you. Once I get into Ubuntu I will have more options. Right now, in windows and can't change this machine;
[18:21] <kdzar> i think i should run it from console
[18:21] <kdzar> what is the ubuntu equivialent of "F8"
[18:22] <k1l_> kdzar: f8?
[18:22] <Floobynooby> kdzar: easier, but you need Windows admin privs it turns out. yumi, uui, a few other tools--either won't install without admin privs or, can install a portable version that asks for elevation when it runs (as it attempts to change boot sectors I bet. makes sense.)
[18:22] <aramil> so its looking like i will have to do a complete reinstall and lose everything :(
[18:22] <kdzar> yeah like safe mode for windows k1l_
[18:22] <EriC^^> aramil: what is your problem?
[18:22] <k1l_> kdzar: that is called recovery.
[18:22] <kdzar> oh ok
[18:23] <k1l_> kdzar: but that doesnt help you on "how to upgrade a server install"
[18:23] <kdzar> so ssh is safe?
[18:23] <jParkton> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[18:23] <kdzar> do-release-upgrade over ssh ?
[18:23] <jParkton> good lord
[18:23] <aramil> eric: http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:23] <jParkton> just do it ffs
[18:24] <OerHeks> aramil, so lubuntu does not know what windows, as windows 10 is not released
[18:24] <kdzar> ok another thing i wanted to know was i had server and added the gui, how do i remove the gui
[18:24] <EriC^^> aramil: you're installing lubuntu next to what?
[18:24] <k1l_> kdzar: the warning for "ssh upgrade could be unsafe" is always given until you drive to the physiical server and attach a keybord and monitor. so not matter where you connect through ssh, there is always the issue that ssh could cut off.
[18:24] <aramil> eric: that unknown os is my lubuntu 14.04 install
[18:24] <phunyguy> jParkton: would you mind not using the nsfw acronyms, please?
[18:24] <kdzar> k1l_ if cut off, how do i fix
[18:24] <EriC^^> aramil: so you want to reinstall lubuntu?
[18:24] <k1l_> kdzar: and if there is important data or important services you really want to have a backup
[18:25] <aramil> eric: no because i have alot of stuff i dont want to lose
[18:25] <EriC^^> aramil: what's the main problem?
[18:26] <bazhang> !home | aramil
[18:26] <kdzar> thanks k1l_ and jParkton
[18:27] <aramil> eric: my pc would not boot and then when i try to fix it from the livecd by upgrading it it got stuck at the installer and then when i quit it then try it again it shows whats in that pic
[18:27] <Caleb--> k1l_, bekks, it's a false alarm. i just looked at the uptime of my firewall box and it went down as well... probably a power outage
[18:28] <harishkrupo> aramil, could you send that pic again?
[18:28] <aramil> http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:30] <ioria> aramil before losing grub, what have you done ?
[18:30] <harishkrupo> aramil, do u know where it got stuck while upgrading? did you see the output?
[18:31] <aramil> no i did not
[18:31] <EriC^^> aramil: which ubuntu did you have?
[18:31] <aramil> lubuntu 14.04
[18:31] <EriC^^> and which did you try to upgrade too?
[18:31] <harishkrupo> aramil, can you mount the partition and see the files?
[18:32] <aramil> yup
[18:32] <EriC^^> aramil: you tried upgrading to 14.10 using the live cd?
[18:33] <aramil> no because when i asked my dad to burn me a cd he burned a 15.04 one
[18:33] <EriC^^> ok, and what did you press in the installer?
[18:33] <EriC^^> you can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly
[18:34] <harishkrupo> aramil, cant you backup the data and do a fresh install
[18:34] <aramil> cant i use chroot or something to it and repair it manually?
[18:35] <harishkrupo> aramil, yes but we need to know what the problem is first
[18:35] <capradmar> After installing Ubuntu on my laptop, I have the grub minimal bash-like
[18:35] <capradmar> I can't boot to my systems (elementaryos and ubuntu)
[18:36] <EriC^^> ok
[18:36] <aramil> i do have a 250gb partition with win7 cant i backup my stuff to it by removing win7?
[18:36] <xpand> aramil: channel is ubuntu?!
[18:36] <EriC^^> aramil: & capradmar boot a live usb
[18:36] <harishkrupo> aramil, yes you can
[18:37] <capradmar> EriC^^: when trying to boot from usb,  I still have this grub minimal bash like
[18:37] <EriC^^> capradmar: the live usb too?
[18:37] <EriC^^> are you sure it's booting?
[18:37] <aramil> eric: im running a livecd right now
[18:37] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub
[18:37] <capradmar> it did before installation
[18:38] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste here
[18:38] <EriC^^> capradmar: maybe it's not booting anymore
[18:38] <aramil> http://termbin.com/ra9m
[18:38] <capradmar> EriC^^: I pressed shift without success
[18:38] <capradmar> I will try to remake my live usb
[18:38] <EriC^^> capradmar: ok
[18:39] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[18:40] <aramil> done
[18:40] <EriC^^> ok type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[18:40] <EriC^^> does the dir exist?
[18:40] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 May 10 08:49 /sys/firmware/efi
[18:40] <EriC^^> ok, it's kind of odd you don't have an efi partition, unless it's that 25gb fat32
[18:41] <EriC^^> aramil: do you know what sda1 is?
[18:41] <aramil> i think /dev/sda1 is supposed to be efi
[18:42] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[18:42] <aramil> done
[18:42] <EriC^^> type ls -l /mnt/boot/efi
[18:42] <EriC^^> is there an EFI dir?
[18:43] <aramil> total 16
[18:43] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found
[18:43] <EriC^^> what else is in there?
[18:43] <aramil> thats it
[18:43] <EriC^^> type ls -la /mnt/boot/efi
[18:43] <aramil> total 24
[18:43] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 .
[18:43] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 May  6 21:08 ..
[18:43] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found
[18:44] <EriC^^> ok, try ls -la /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found
[18:44] <aramil> ls: cannot open directory /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found: Permission denied
[18:45] <EriC^^> try with sudo
[18:45] <aramil> total 20
[18:45] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 .
[18:45] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 ..
[18:46] <EriC^^> ok, is /boot all there? type ls -l /mnt/boot
[18:46] <EriC^^> is there a grub dir and initrd and stuff?
[18:46] <aramil> yup
[18:46] <EriC^^> ok, i think we should first make sda1 an efi partition first, and then reinstall grub
[18:47] <ozzy1013> Hello ¿Some one?
[18:47] <aramil> ok
[18:47] <EriC^^> unless anyone has any suggestions..
[18:47] <EriC^^> aramil: type cat /mnt/etc/issue
[18:48] <aramil> cat: /mnt/etc/issue: No such file or directory
[18:49] <EriC^^> aramil: ok, that's not good
[18:49] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo umount /dev/sda1
[18:49] <aramil> done
[18:49] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v
[18:49] <aramil> sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[18:50] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:51] <aramil> what do i do after sudo efibootmgr -v
[18:51] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:52] <aramil> http://termbin.com/fji6
[18:53] <EriC^^> aramil: type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:53] <EriC^^> i'm trying to see how you used to boot lubuntu
[18:53] <aramil> http://termbin.com/52t9
[18:55] <Zai-Cesuo> hey guys. one last try here.. anyone who can help me with  grub and UEFI-windows problems?
[18:55] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:56] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, yes
[18:56] <aramil> http://termbin.com/teu0
[18:56] <EriC^^> aramil: it looks like the efi partition is gone
[18:57] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, what is the problem
[18:57] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though
[18:57] <aramil> i have no clue how that happened
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: i'm afraid the root fs is also different
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: type ls -l /home
[18:57] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, try running update-grub2
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: sorry, ls -l /mnt/home
[18:58] <EriC^^> is your user still there?
[18:58] <aramil> yes
[18:58] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[18:59] <EriC^^> aramil: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:59] <hadifarnoud> why $> sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html gives me "command i expects \ followed by text"
[18:59] <al2o3-cr> !find weechat
[18:59] <Zai-Cesuo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11066532/ thats what i get.. i tried sudo update-grub before.. and it didnt work
[18:59] <Zai-Cesuo> is grub 2 any different?
[19:00] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: what's the problem?
[19:00] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though
[19:00] <aramil> um that command is confusing idk what to put in
[19:00] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, update-grub will actually call update-grub2
[19:00] <EriC^^> aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:00] <Zai-Cesuo> hm so that is not the solution then..
[19:00] <EriC^^> aramil: paste the whole thing
[19:01] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, is windows installed on efi on the ssd?
[19:01] <Zai-Cesuo> yes
[19:01] <aramil> mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/proc does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/sys does not exist
[19:01] <Zai-Cesuo> i need to boot it in UEFI.. if thats what you mean.. i dont know what that means though
[19:01] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, ok then try boot repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:02] <EriC^^> aramil: type ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:02] <EriC^^> aramil: i think you have to backup your home and reinstall, it's pretty messed up
[19:02] <aramil> http://termbin.com/kh3w
[19:03] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it
[19:03] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, in bios settings you generally have option to choose boot from legacy or uefi
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:03] <Zai-Cesuo> i will try that eric
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: you need to have an .efi file in an efi partition for uefi, for both versions of windows
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: paste the link here when you do
[19:04] <Jarot> hi
[19:04] <EriC^^> aramil: ok, at least your home dir is there
[19:04] <aramil> yea
[19:05] <EriC^^> aramil: how big is it? type du -sh /mnt/home
[19:05] <Zai-Cesuo> there you go eric http://paste.ubuntu.com/11066678/
[19:06] <aramil> 284G	/mnt/home
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> and to harishkrupo, yes i can choose UEFI in the boot menu. if i only choose the SSD, it usually doesnt even start Windows. I need to choose UEFI boot
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> I will install bootrepair meanwhile..
[19:06] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: the second windows installation is installed in legacy mode
[19:06] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: it's useless
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> what does that mean?
[19:07] <EriC^^> it means you had legacy mode and you installed windows and ubuntu in uefi mode
[19:07] <Zai-Cesuo> is that bad? I am too much of a noob to understand
[19:07] <EriC^^> so now you can only boot those 2, unless you switch the bios to legacy, and put that disk first in the list, then you can only boot the second windows installation
[19:07] <EriC^^> aramil: ok
[19:08] <EriC^^> do you have another hdd or something to put /home in?
[19:08] <aramil> nope only have the one hd
[19:08] <iBeatBlaxx> who invented buffer overflows?
[19:08] <Zai-Cesuo> so i need to go into the boot menu and switch to legacy? and put the SSD first on the list?
[19:08] <ioria> aramil can you ls  lost+found ?
[19:08] <aramil> ?
[19:09] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is not a ubuntu support issue, is it?
[19:09] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, you need to install ubuntu and windows in legacy mode, or reinstall the second windows in uefi mode
[19:09] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, you are able to boot into ubuntu and windows( of sdb ) right?
[19:09] <iBeatBlaxx> well, i found a buffer overflow in 15.04 but i am curious as to who invented the technique
[19:10] <Zai-Cesuo> that would mean i lose all my data... :( (except i put it somewhere first)
[19:10] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: what does sdb mean? I can boot into ubuntu without any probllems
[19:11] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, u can boot into windows which is in hard drive or ssd?
[19:11] <ioria> aramil ls -a  /mnt/lost+found
[19:11] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: hmm this is odd
[19:11] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: grub finds the legacy windows in sdb but not the uefi in sda
[19:11] <Zai-Cesuo> Grub only lets me boot the HDD windows. Ubuntu and Windows ultimate are on the SSD
[19:11] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, looks like grub is detecting windows which was installed in legacy
[19:11] <aramil> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo ls -a  /mnt/lost+found
[19:11] <aramil> .  ..
[19:11] <EriC^^> that's so odd
[19:11] <iBeatBlaxx> i wouldn
[19:12] <harishkrupo> EriC^^, yup thats odd
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> i wouldn't install ubuntu on an hdd
[19:12] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, first try boot repair
[19:12] <Zai-Cesuo> and i got no clue how i even installed the wrong way.. how do i choose to install in uefi or legacy mode?
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> just use a vm if you're running a windows computer
[19:12] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> grub messes everything up
[19:12] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is not right. please dont spread that
[19:12] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, boot repair should fix most of the problems
[19:12] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly
[19:12] <Bray90820> Connect to my samba share that is
[19:12] <Zai-Cesuo> ibeatblaxx: i did that before, but i wanted to have the option to boot either of them
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> ah i see..
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> i never changed anything in my bios ever though..
[19:13] <iBeatBlaxx> k1l_: when i uninstalled ubuntu, grub was deleted too and then i had no windows bootloader
[19:13] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is as intended
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> damnit! i might have! I updated my bios when i got the SSD... cuz it couldnt find it. might have changed the standard settings..
[19:13] <iBeatBlaxx> i wasn't able to reinstall a bootloader to my windows partition and i lost everything on my hard disk
[19:13] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: you need to reinstall the windows bootloader again. or install grub in a way it works without an installed ubuntu.
[19:14] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly
[19:14] <EriC^^> crap
[19:14] <EriC^^> typo
[19:14] <Zai-Cesuo> well eric, i will try to get the boot repair working.. maybe that fixes everything..
[19:14] <ioria> aramil seems you have lost dev, etc, proc and sys, or are on another partition
[19:15] <EriC^^> aramil: you can resize your partition using gparted, and make a separate /home to back up the data, but resizing a partition is usually safe but who knows
[19:15] <EriC^^> aramil: or you could make leave it empty with just /home and not format the hdd in the installer, but i have no idea if the installer would leave everything in /home intact
[19:15] <EriC^^> *maybe
[19:16] <EriC^^> aramil: best option would be to get another hdd and backup your stuff there then reinstall
[19:16] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: ok
[19:16] <ioria> Eric^^ how it happened, in your opinion  ?
[19:16] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?
[19:16] <EriC^^> ioria: he tried installing and it went wrong mid way
[19:16] <ioria> yup
[19:17] <EriC^^> but i think that shows that the installer leaves /home in tact, or it hadn't started touching it yet
[19:17] <aramil> eric: i could just make a 300gb partition move my /home there then do a reinstall then move it back am i right?
[19:17] <Zai-Cesuo> shall i just run the recommended reparation?
[19:17] <harishkrupo> yes
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> there goes nothing... thanks in advance and lets see what happens
[19:18] <EriC^^> aramil: yeah you could, but i mean it's your data, there's always a risk with partitioning and stuff
[19:18] <capradmar> EriC^^: I understood what happened: during installation, I create a swap drive on my usb stick :0)
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> "The current session is in Legacy mode. Please reboot the computer, and use this software in an EFI session. This will enable this feature. For example, use a live-USB of Boot-Repair-Disk-64bit (www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd), after making sure your BIOS is set up to boot USB in EFI mode."
[19:18] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: yeah that makes sense how grub found windows on sdb
[19:18] <aramil> so its ether doing that or lose everything then?
[19:18] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?
[19:18] <EriC^^> or a live usb?
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> yes
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i am on ubuntu
[19:19] <EriC^^> the installation not a live usb?
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i installed it with a burned iso
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> if thats what you mean
[19:19] <EriC^^> you booted normally into it? not chrooted?
[19:19] <Guest72696> how can i see cpu usage on the bottom panel in LXDE?
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i booted normally through the Grub. i simply chose ubuntu
[19:20] <EriC^^> ok now it makes sense, just noticed the bios grub partition
[19:20] <Zai-Cesuo> so what do i do now?
[19:20] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: ok, reinstall the windows ssd in legacy mode
[19:20] <EriC^^> and you should be good
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> nooo :(.... after all my hard work to install windows ultimate on there...
[19:21] <harishkrupo> or try changing to uefi mode and boot from ssd
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> i will try the uefi mode first
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> sounds like the easier way
[19:21] <EriC^^> yeah it should boot windows, but you'd have to change the bios mode every time you wanted to boot it
[19:21] <harishkrupo> that is true
[19:21] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: that's not a permanent solution..
[19:22] <Zai-Cesuo> damn
[19:22] <iBeatBlaxx> the best thing to do is always use a vm i don't get how people are still not using vms these days
[19:22] <iBeatBlaxx> snapshots are amazing
[19:22] <Zai-Cesuo> so if i reinstall windows.. should i "deintall" ubuntu first as well?
[19:22] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, just reinstall windows, but make sure you boot it in legacy mode
[19:22] <EriC^^> use its partitioner so it doesn't touch ubuntu, then reinstall grub using a live usb
[19:23] <harishkrupo> if you reinstall windows, it will over write mbr
[19:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:23] <Zai-Cesuo> Just to sum it up: Switch bios to from UEFI to legacy mode. put the Windows CD back in and install.. Grub will pop up and do what i want it to do?
[19:23] <harishkrupo> the use boot repair from live cd
[19:23] <MikeHunt> #gnome-ubuntu
[19:23] <harishkrupo> grub will not pop up
[19:23] <Zai-Cesuo> i see...
[19:24] <harishkrupo> you will have to boot into a live medium and use boot repair
[19:24] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, make sure windows doesn't boot in uefi mode, only legacy, and reinstall it using its partitioner, then your pc won't boot grub, so use a live usb to reinstall grub
[19:24] <Zai-Cesuo> i dont have a live usb... In the worst case i will come back here and get help for that if i cant find anything on google..
[19:24] <harishkrupo> live usb or DVD
[19:24] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: you can't do anything in that case
[19:25] <EriC^^> unless windows has a program that you can dd back the mbr if you copy it now
[19:25] <Zai-Cesuo> ah.. i got my DVD with ubuntu
[19:25] <EriC^^> something similar to dd
[19:25] <EriC^^> ok, you're all set then, just make sure windows boots in legacy mode
[19:26] <EriC^^> if in the partioner it mentions an efi partition, you know for sure it's trying to install in uefi mode
[19:26] <OverrRyde> afternoon everyone!
[19:26] <Zai-Cesuo> you guys were wonderful. it sounds like you guys know what you are doing. mad respect for you. hope i can learn some more soon as well. Thanks to you guys!
[19:26] <Zai-Cesuo> I will try it. Thanks everyone! I wont be doing that before tomorrow though.. its getting late..
[19:26] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: it might say efi partition in the installer though cause you have one already..
[19:26] <EriC^^> ok
[19:27] <aramil> how much space does / need?
[19:27] <mgaunard> ubuntu 15.04 has been nothing but trouble, grub failed during installation and it didn't even say why
[19:27] <EriC^^> aramil: 20gb is good
[19:27] <mgaunard> apparently this is related to EFI
[19:27] <mgaunard> how do I install normal grub and not this EFI crap
[19:27] <Zai-Cesuo> lol you came to the right neighbourhood
[19:28] <mgaunard> I've managed to partially recover things
[19:28] <EriC^^> mgaunard: are you in a live usb right now?
[19:28] <mgaunard> but grub-install is unhappy because /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist
[19:28] <mgaunard> no I managed to boot on the partition after running boot-repair on it
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[19:29] <mgaunard> no such file or directory
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, so you're in legacy mode
[19:29] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[19:29] <mgaunard> thanks
[19:29] <aramil> im trying to resize stuff for reinstall but i cant unmount /mnt
[19:30] <iBeatBlaxx> aramil, this is why you should always install from a flash drive
[19:30] <mgaunard> the usb flash drive I used to boot was in uefi mode but not my main drive
[19:30] <EriC^^> aramil: are you in the dir?
[19:30] <aramil> no
[19:30] <EriC^^> aramil: close all terminals and type sudo umount /mnt
[19:30] <mgaunard> apparently this caused ubuntu to think it should use efi everywhere
[19:31] <aramil> umount: /mnt: target is busy
[19:31] <EriC^^> aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[19:31] <EriC^^> i think none of them mounted earlier though
[19:31] <aramil> mount point not found for everything
[19:32] <EriC^^> type lsof | grep /mnt
[19:32] <aramil> ok now what
[19:34] <EriC^^> aramil: did it say anything?
[19:34] <aramil> nope
[19:35] <capradmar> EriC^^: I managed to repair my live usb, then I tried to install boot repair using this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:35] <aramil> wait gparted unmounted it
[19:35] <EriC^^> aramil: ok
[19:38] <iBeatBlaxx> capradmar: i wish i knew about boot repair before formatting all my drives and reinstalling everything
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> iBeatBlaxx  that's called a learning process
[19:46] <iBeatBlaxx> MonkeyDust: not when you have a lot of important files and memories from pictures and videos it's not
[19:46] <iBeatBlaxx> that's called torture
[19:47] <aramil> so when i create /home on a different  partition will it just have my /home folder on it?
[19:47] <ioria> no
[19:48] <ioria> you have to mount it
[19:48] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: data without a backup is not important data. its hard but that is the truth. if the harddisk got a hardware failure that data would be gone too.
[19:48] <Rainx> Anyone knows, if its possible to mount onedrive/skydrive library through curlftp or something else. "like you can map network drive to onedrive in windows using https://d.docs.live.net/"your CID number" ?
[19:48] <Flannel> aramil: You actually won't have "/home" in it, you'll have the stuff inside of /home (like your-user, someone-else, etc) in it.
[19:49] <iBeatBlaxx> k1l_: what is a good place to backup data?
[19:49] <aramil> so after i install ubuntu i mount lets say /dev/sda3 at /home?
[19:50] <ioria> no /home/rescue for example and to be stable you have to edit fstab
[19:50] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: other disk/location. there are thousands of ways and setups.
[19:50] <Flannel> aramil: You can actually do it all during the install process itself.
[19:51] <auronandace> iBeatBlaxx: an external harddrive is a good start but if you want it super safe then you'll want offsite backups too
[19:56] <bhautik> hi
[19:57] <reveredge> hi
[19:57] <reveredge> bhautik,
[19:57] <reveredge> what does that mean?
[19:57] <reveredge> geography?
[19:57] <hadifarnoud> this is supposed to make </body></html> two lines, one for each tag. sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html
[19:57] <hadifarnoud> but it doesn't work
[19:58] <aramil> its just that the /home that im going to have on a different partition will have some stuff in it and idk if the installer will delete it
[20:02] <mgaunard> does ubuntu have first-class support for cinnamon now?
[20:03] <xangua> ubuntu matte is an official flavor starting with 15.04 , don't know anything about cinnamon
[20:04] <k1l_> mgaunard: cinnamon is in the repos since 14.10
[20:04] <xangua> too many gnome forks
[20:06] <iBeatBlaxx> xangua: that's gay
[20:06] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | iBeatBlaxx
[20:06] <iBeatBlaxx> what did i say?
[20:06] <mgaunard> k1l_: I thought it had been removed at some point
[20:10] <Parabola> why did they remove raid from the ubuntu desktop install.
[20:11] <capradmar> it triggered an error in the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/
[20:14] <Parabola> where is the god damn alternate image,
[20:14] <Parabola> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-194b248381c71c37f7b187c6b814bbe7e31d91d6 this says its on the download page, its clearly not on the mirrors, or its not labeled as alternate.
[20:14] <jParkton> which god damn alternate image?
[20:15] <Music_> Hi, Do you know why Rhythmbox (3.0.2 or the latest 3.20) allocates 2 GB of my virtual memory??
[20:15] <Parabola> jParkton: whichever gets me 15.04 with raid support in the installer :)
[20:15] <Parabola> newest i see on any repo is a 2012 release.
[20:17] <jParkton> you mean these? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/
[20:17] <Parabola> thats netboot
[20:17] <Parabola> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[20:17] <Parabola> i see alternative ISOs in BT form, but its for 3 year old releases.
[20:17] <nicoo> Hi. My (X)Ubuntu system seems to be in a bad state since I upgraded to 15.04.  Doesn't change anything, same error
[20:19] <sebastian> Hi guys, I'm using virt-resize to expand a partition reported present by virt-filesystems but when I try to resize it I get an: "partition not found in the source disk"
[20:19] <sebastian> I'm totally stuck now
[20:20] <sebastian> "/dev/sda5"  is present, is an ext4, I don't get why can't expand
[20:22] <capradmar> After installing ubuntu, I have the minimal bash like. Here is my boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/ What's wrong?
[20:30] <hadifarnoud> if I recompile nginx with PageSpeed support, would that change any of my configs? or is it straight forward?
[20:32] <rek> !ubottu
[20:32] <rek> !ubottu chat
[20:33] <rek> what's the ubuntu chat channel?
[20:33] <Fuchs> #ubuntu-offtopic  would be one of them
[20:33] <rek> cool
[20:33] <Fuchs> see alis for a couple more
[20:33] <iBeatBlaxx> what's the other fucks?
[20:33] <rek> i like your nickname
[20:33] <Fuchs> I like it, too
[20:33] <iBeatBlaxx> sorry autocorrect* Fuchs**
[20:33] <rek> it's like you fuck a lot
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> language
[20:34] <Fuchs> I do, but that's not really on topic for this channel nor the family friendly language we'd like to have in here.
[20:34] <Fuchs> so please continue with that somewhere else, preferably where nobody can read it ♥
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> iBeatBlaxx  and family friendly nicks
[20:35] <rek> Fuchs: are you like an important person here?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> rek  stay polite
[20:35] <rek> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:35] <rek> just using tinycore now hehehe that's why i'm nervous
[20:36] <jParkton> reisio: O/
[20:36] <rek> hey guys i don't remember whos' krabador or something.... what's his channel?
[20:37] <Parabola> jesus christ, is there any documentation on ubuntu's site thats remotely accurate regarding mdadm raid DURING the install?
[20:37] <Parabola> or is QA thrown to the wind on documentation and its IDGAF errday?
[20:37] <devops_guy> hey if I add a root certificate to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and run update-ca-certificates, should curl work without error?
[20:37] <reisio> jParkton: \o
[20:38] <rek> hei
[20:39] <guest7392> I am looking for ways to configure the screen brightness in X11, as my laptop LCD still hurts my eyes even on the lowest setting. For Windows there is Dimmer which is written in .NET but does not run with Mono. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:39] <Parabola> did you try googling it
[20:39] <Parabola> https://www.google.com/search?q=xorg+screen+brightness&oq=xorg+screen+brightness&aqs=chrome..69i57.4519j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[20:39] <reisio> guest7392: you can increase further with software using xgamma
[20:39] <HelpeRX> can i use the trusty kernel in utopic velvet
[20:39] <reisio> guest7392: I'd also recommend using xcalib -i -a to invert colors at night
[20:40] <reisio> guest7392: and with -green 1.0 0.0 75.0 -blue 1.0 0.0 50.0 to reduce blue light
[20:40] <reisio> HelpeRX: sure
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> !info redshift | guest7392 is this useful
[20:41] <HelpeRX> thanks lol
[20:42] <HelpeRX> also will the upgrade change all my sysctl.conf?
[20:42] <guest7392> MonkeyDust: I have used f.lux before and it is great but I would prefer to just dim my screeninstead of filtering blue light, but thank you for the suggestion
[20:42] <HelpeRX> i hate flux lol
[20:42] <Parabola> f.lux is fantastic.
[20:43] <Parabola> idk about on a computer, but its the first thing i put on my phone
[20:43] <HelpeRX> no it doesnt effect your stress or sleep pattern there is no science just a placebo effect
[20:43] <k1l_> guest7392: use redshift like redshift-gtk
[20:43] <guest7392> HelpeRX: It helps to releive eye strain for me
[20:44] <Parabola> no, its really not up for discussion
[20:44] <Parabola> i can assure you I know what my eyes like better than you do.
[20:44] <HelpeRX> lmfao
[20:44] <HelpeRX> you make like it better but it is nothing but a placebo effect
[20:44] <Parabola> you're an idiot
[20:44] <HelpeRX> may*
[20:45] <HelpeRX> the truth hurts bruh?
[20:45] <HelpeRX> you mad?
[20:45] <reisio> s/you mad/umadbro/
[20:45] <reisio> do it right
[20:46] <k1l_> Parabola: HelpeRX first we dont call names in here. second that is not to be discussed in here since we focus on solving the issue and not telling the user he doesnt have an issue.
[20:46] <guest7392> HelpeRX: a quick Google search reveals lots of credible sources regarding blue light and how it inhibits melatonin production. Also I find your contribution not be very constructive. Your opinion on redshift does not help me in any way.
[20:48] <guest7392> reisio: I tried xgamma and although it helps to some extent (I set the gamma to .3) it adds a somewhat blueish hue to my screen. Might just be my crappy laptop screen's fault but it sure is not pleasant to look at. Will experiment some more
[20:49] <reisio> guest7392: can change the hue, too
[20:49] <HelpeRX> all i did was state a fate and he geos on calling me an idiot so really its not my fault
[20:50] <guest7392> HelpeRX: Could you provide a reliable source on this "fact">
[20:50] <reisio> it'll help your eyes whether it helps you sleep or not
[20:51] <reisio> that will be apparent to anyone at all :D
[20:51] <harishkrupo> \part
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> hi, I have a problem
[20:51] <k1l_> guest7392: lets focus on the ubuntu support in here
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> I need to restart metacity
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> how can i do this?
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> metacity --replace &  is failing
[20:52] <reisio> killall it first
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> "Unable to open X display"
[20:52] <reisio> oh? pgrep -x X
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> can you go through the proceedure step by step for me?
[20:52] <reisio> Laurenceb___: you in X when you try to run metacity --replace?
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> I'm connected by ssh
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> the pc is not in a usable state atm
[20:53] <Laurenceb___> I only have ssh access
[20:53] <Laurenceb___> screen is frozen
[20:54] <reisio> try killall metacity; DISPLAY=:0 nohup metacity --replace > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> so can anyone help me?
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> ok
[20:54] <reisio> or replace :0 with whatever ps aux | grep X has for a number
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> shiiit
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> how do i paste to putty in windows lol ?
[20:55] <bindi> right click, if you have default settings
[20:55] <reisio> Laurenceb___: shift+ins?
[20:55] <Rufus> Greetings. Running Ubuntu 15.04. I've installed ntfs-3g and gparted, but I can't resize an ntfs partition. Information page says it needs ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g. Any help please? (I get that with gparted live cd as well)
[20:57] <guest7392> k1l_: sorry about that. I gave redshift a try and it is already working wonders for my eyes. Thank you for your help and have a good day
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Rufus: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions ?
[20:59] <HelpeRX> alright i am sorry everyone for saying the truth there i apologized
[21:00] <Parabola> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID <-- another stellar document by the highschoolers in charge of documentation
[21:01] <Parabola> documentation 101: "fill it out", "select THE partitions" "the ones you want" these types of terms require the user to make an assumption, or have prior knowledge of a process, if the user had that knowledge, they wouldn't need the guide. test your documentation from the context of a new user, or it will almost always be fucking useless
[21:02] <smw_> Hi all, I have a bluetooth headset. I opened up the bluetooth scanner and it said "Not Set Up", so I clicked on it and it now says it is "Disconnected". However, every time I try to toggle the on/off button, it immediately toggles back to off. Anyone seen this before?
[21:06] <Parabola> seriously fix your trash docs
[21:07] <courrier> Hey guys, I need to install a Windows 7 on computer A that is not able to read the installation DVD, my computer B running Ubuntu is able to read it, how can I create a netboot server temporarily?
[21:08] <reisio> courrier: why can't it read it?
[21:09] <courrier> reisio: probably not compatible with the medium, it's a DVD+RW
[21:09] <reisio> courrier: got a usb stick?
[21:11] <maverick1> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[21:11] <maverick1> Version 3.7.86
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[21:11] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[21:14] <reisio> courrier: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[21:15] <maverick1> Spiacente, non sono riuscito a trovare nulla relativo a keywords
[21:18] <binBlob> Hi does someone know how I can set the synaptic touchpad do do the following: When I drag the pad with my finger for a short distance the mouse cursor should not stop after my finger movement ends but it should continue to flow in the dragged direction. Under windows this is called coasting. I tried to setup this feature with synclient but I am not able to achieve the same effect.
[21:19] <reisio> binBlob: CoastingSpeed
[21:19] <OerHeks> binBlob, does the right/or left side of the touchpad have that feature, keep scrolling down?
[21:20] <binBlob> I tried to set up the coasting speed but id does not change anything. No I dont have the scrolling feature on the sides
[21:22] <binBlob> I suspect that the windows coasting is doing an entirely different thing than the linux coasting
[21:22] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[21:22] <Pinkamena_D> hi
[21:23] <totesmuhgoats> i have an ubuntu LTS box that i've been upgrading since 10.04, it's now at 14.04
[21:23] <Umeaboy> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/release/ubuntu-15.04-server-powerpc.iso, is that right for any 27" iMac newer than 2012?
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> i'm thinking about moving off of LTS and upgrading to 15.04 for newer packages, but i always have issues using the official do-release-upgrade method
[21:24] <Umeaboy> I intend to try it on a friends computer without installing it.
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> the debian method of editing my sources.list always seems to work for me
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> what i'm wondering is, can i go straight from 14.04 to 15.04 this way, or should I do the 14.10 inbetween?
[21:25] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: "No."
[21:26] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: "No." because it's the debian method? or "No." because of skipping the intermediate step?
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: you need to upgrade to every release step. or use the LTS to LTS upgrade shortcut
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and we dont use the debian method on ubuntu, we use the update-manager or do-release-upgrade
[21:26] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: You need to upgrade to 14.10 before, but keep in mind that 14.04 is supported until 2019, while being on non-LTS, that means you have to do 10 do-release-upgrades.
[21:26] <Umeaboy> I can't seem to find http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64+mac.iso for 15.04.
[21:26] <Umeaboy> Anybody know where to find it?
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: just make sure your release-prompt is set to the upgrade path you want to use
[21:27] <daftykins> Umeaboy: you don't need mac ISOs anymore, they're part of the amd64 build
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: yea i understand that, it's a home server / desktop so newer packages are starting to be more important than having super long term support
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: yea, i can get it to go through the process with do-release-upgrade, it just always ends up in a broken state
[21:27] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: details matter
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> in the past i made images and tried it, broke the system, then did the debian method
[21:28] <jParkton> that is pretty cryptic
[21:28] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: sounds like your machine is full of PPAs you're not removing beforehand
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> jParkton: what is?
[21:28] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: please show the exact errors in a pastebin
[21:28] <Thesaurus> anyone having luck with GLX video output in VLC with nvidia GPU's on 14.04 ?
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i thought the update-manager / do-release-upgrade does that for you?
[21:29] <daftykins> no it does not
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> when i do the debian method i remove them all manually
[21:29] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: No, you have to do that manually, before. Since ever.
[21:29] <Pinkamena_D> Does anyone know if ubuntu has any kind of tablet-type packages to allow a tablet screen to work with, for example, drag-to-scroll operations?
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> aah, that might make sense why the one worked and the other didn't
[21:29] <daftykins> upgrade advice says remove PPAs... purge your extra junk, then upgrade
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> well, i guess i'll try the official method again tonight when nobody is using the system
[21:30] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and put a "lsb_release -d" "uname -a" "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in a paste too
[21:30] <Umeaboy> daftykins: Really?
[21:30] <Umeaboy> OK.
[21:30] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: will do, one moment
[21:31] <Umeaboy> How do I tell which version of the iMac that he has? Is there a sticker at the back?
[21:31] <Umeaboy> I have never looked.
[21:31] <Umeaboy> Most of the are x64 right?
[21:31] <reisio> just look in the underside of his cardigan
[21:31] <jParkton> reisio: lol
[21:32] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: up to the wm
[21:32] <Umeaboy> reisio: I shouldv'e expected that. ;)
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/S4TWNHK1
[21:33] <reisio> if it doesn't say on the bottom or side or back, then you're probably in for some detective work
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> everything seems to be fine there, i would need to change the prompt at the end to do the upgrade to 15.04
[21:33] <reisio> even if it does say you probably are
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> but otherwise it's fine
[21:33] <reisio> Apple isn't big on transparency
[21:33] <reisio> each model is just another step in you buying another one
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> my kernel is unsupported, but from an official ubuntu package
[21:33] <ModelEngine> hi guys, shmee again. I'm in need of a bit of help trying to get plank to autostart when linux starts, also pcmanfm to be pinned to taskbar
[21:33] <jParkton> that is an understatement
[21:33] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: issue 1: you are using a mainline kernel. issue 2: the relase prompt is set to LTS so it waits for a 16.04 to be relaseasy
[21:33] <k1l_> *released
[21:34] <daftykins> !mac | Umeaboy This is where you should have started.
[21:34] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: its a testing kernel. it is not an official canonical supported kernel.
[21:34] <Boogie> I have bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?
[21:35] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and it still says 14.04.1 so you might miss a lot of upgrades there anyway
[21:36] <BigJ> I am having a problem with my laptop with suspend.  After I close the lid and try to exit from suspend nothing happens.
[21:38] <R13ose> In Chrome, how do I stop the ctrl = zoom in?
[21:40] <ModelEngine> any body?
[21:41] <jParkton> R13ose: grab the source tarball of Chrome and rewrite key bindings, recompile and launch
[21:41] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[21:42] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: hmm, doing dist-upgrade should take care of getting me up to the newest version, no?
[21:42] <R13ose> jParkton: if I don't want to do that, is there another way?  Isn't ctrl+ anything always the key for most shortcuts?
[21:42] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: no
[21:42] <Johnny_Linux> birds of a feather totesmuhgoats
[21:43] <totesmuhgoats> Johnny_Linux: hmm?
[21:43] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to upgrade to a new release. if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it only installs all upgrades including those who will need to have other packages to be installed. like kernel upgrades.
[21:43] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: ubuntu uses on cli "sudo do-release-upgrade" for the upgrade to a new release
[21:44] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: i see, thanks for the info
[21:44] <totesmuhgoats> i need to learn to ubuntu apparently, i thought i knew what i was doing
[21:45] <jParkton> R13ose: unfortunately when you want to modify a program to use something like key bindings differently the only way is to hack it
[21:45] <Boogie> I have a bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?
[21:45] <totesmuhgoats> hmm, do-release-upgrade says "No new release found"
[21:45] <R13ose> jParkton: how else do I open a new tab?
[21:46] <jParkton> click on the plus
[21:46] <jParkton> shift+ middle mouse, Ctrl+T
[21:46] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: first make sure you run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the latest state of that version
[21:46] <jParkton> a few different ways
[21:46] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: will do
[21:46] <R13ose> jParkton: middle mouse button, I don't have that?
[21:46] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: then look at the release-prompt and if its still pointing to "lts". because that means 14.04 is waiting for 16.04 as the next upgrade
[21:47] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: well, i was trying to get it to go from 14.04.1 to whatever 14.04.x is, the newest one
[21:47] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: that is dont with apt-get dist-upgrade (because that is the regular updates)
[21:47] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: ah okay, that's what i thought
[21:48] <totesmuhgoats> we'll see if i'm on the right version after this dist-upgrade is done then
[21:48] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: 14.04.x is called point release and think of it as service packs from windows
[21:48] <jParkton> R13ose: then use one of the other three methods I named :|
[21:49] <min> hello gents
[21:49] <binBlob> Ok it ssems that the coasting option is only for scrolling! I want the same just for the movement of the mouse.
[21:50] <binBlob> this is the description from the win drivers: http://www.thewindowsplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/enablecoasting.png
[21:51] <daftykins> yeah that's useless.
[21:51] <daftykins> you're not gonna get synaptic drivers configured via a GUI in Linux
[21:51] <binBlob> yes that is not the problem I cant find the right setting
[21:52] <wish^> Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off
[21:53] <wish^> Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help
[21:53] <bishop> #quit
[21:54] <totesmuhgoats> so i just did apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and lsb_release -d still shows 14.04.1
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> wish^  while it's in the dots, press ctrl-alt F1 ... then use sudo reboot
[21:54] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: yeah because dist-upgrade does not upgrade version...
[21:55] <daftykins> !distupgrade
[21:55] <ceibal> juegos de motos
[21:55] <ceibal> sebasrrnrr
[21:55] <mgaunard> does cinnamon perform well with ubuntu or should I use linux mint instead?
[21:55] <ceibal> nrkrknr
[21:55] <ceibal> rinrirninrrrr
[21:55] <ceibal> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:55] <ceibal> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:55] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i'm just trying to get to 14.04.2, does dist-upgrade not do that?
[21:56] <daftykins> it should have yes
[21:56] <wish^> MonkeyDust: thats all good and well. But how can i permanently solve this issue?
[21:56] <wish^> Im using an LTE version
[21:56] <daftykins> so either your repos are funky, or this isn't a normal install.. or something
[21:56] <daftykins> wish^: LTS.
[21:57] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, i'm gonna guess something is wonky, i've been cobbling this install together for like 6 years now
[21:58] <wish^> S yea
[21:58] <totesmuhgoats> well, works is works
[21:58] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: from what? :)
[21:59] <om3n> cake
[21:59] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: it was originally a 10.04 release, i updated by the debian method to 12.04, then to 14.04, there's some PPAs and an unsupported kernel in use, migrated the fs to btrfs after the fact, split parts of the fs namespace into different volumes
[21:59] <totesmuhgoats> at some point i am probably gonna need to start over
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> totesmuhgoats  sounds like frankenbuntu
[22:00] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: With a fresh install of 14.04 maybe :)
[22:00] <daftykins> ok well then there's your mistake
[22:00] <daftykins> btrfs on this frankenbuntu? :D
[22:00] <daftykins> good lord man kill it, kill it now
[22:00] <totesmuhgoats> lol btrfs is the best thing that's ever happened to me
[22:01] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: You started to like your misfortune? :P
[22:01] <daftykins> how can you even be sure all its' blessings are functioning on that hodge-podge of an install 0o
[22:01] <Spec-Chum> I'm a boring EXT4 kinda guy
[22:02] <vitimiti> Me too
[22:02] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, it's getting out of hand, but when things work they work. sometimes making things work "right" can cause more things to be wrong than before
[22:03] <daftykins> personally i don't even believe in upgrades
[22:03] <daftykins> working in IT so long, i do clean installs and work out a new releases' foibles before migrating data to it, then i just dispose of the old install
[22:04] <daftykins> upgrades are touted as being magical, but they're blatantly a hit it and pray sort of task :)
[22:04] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[22:04] <Johnny_Linux> taboo
[22:04] <vitimiti> I've been updating since 14.04 without much of a problem
[22:04] <vitimiti> Guess was lucky
[22:04] <Weslei> ee ae jhows
[22:05] <daftykins> one whole year ago? :)
[22:05] <Weslei> kkk
[22:05] <vitimiti> Yes
[22:05] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:05] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[22:05] <Weslei> tem br ae?
[22:05] <daftykins> Weslei: english only thanks
[22:05] <mgaunard> what's the package recommended for nvidia drivers?
[22:05] <k1l_> upgrades on ubuntu get automated testings. so if you dont stuff too much 3rd party stuff and ppas into it they will work
[22:05] <mgaunard> I want to always have the latest one
[22:05] <daftykins> mgaunard: depends on your hardware
[22:06] <daftykins> and ubuntu version
[22:06] <mgaunard> 15.04
[22:06] <mgaunard> my card is a geforce 8800 gt
[22:06] <daftykins> crikey that thing is 7 years old
[22:06] <ModelEngine> hi there: when I try to paste Plank into the ~/.config/autostart folder, it says this: The specified directory'/home/friendlyshop1/ .config/autostart' is not valid
[22:06] <daftykins> no point you running anything newer than the nvidia-331 driver i'd say
[22:06] <mgaunard> it's that old? still runs the latest next-gen stuff just fine
[22:07] <daftykins> i don't even think that's a DirectX 11 card so no, you're just not seeing anything to the full effect
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, my goal was to keep 10.04 for all 8 years of support, but then the packages got unbearably old
[22:07] <daftykins> it didn't have 8 years, it had 4 0o
[22:07] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: 10.04 has 4 years, not 8 years.
[22:07] <daftykins> i just retired my 10.04.4 servers at the end of April
[22:07] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, do you actually have a space before .config or is that a typing error on here?
[22:08] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: Basically your 10.04 is just dead.
[22:08] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: I do have a space
[22:08] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: well it's a good thing i upgraded then ;)
[22:08] <Spec-Chum> I tend to break ubuntu by frankenstening it with various kernels and PPAs
[22:08] <Spec-Chum> i can't be trusted iwth linux
[22:08] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: just as long as you never ask for support in here then :P
[22:09] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: thank you for the help
[22:09] <totesmuhgoats> Spec-Chum: if you can't be trusted with linux you can't be trusted with anything. there's just no room in this world for men like us
[22:09] <mgaunard> you kinda have to install ppa to get the good stuff
[22:09] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: i just retried it without the space and it worked!
[22:09] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: I wouldnt call that upgrading, more like modifying frankenbuntu.
[22:09] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, NP :)
[22:09] <totesmuhgoats> gonna reboot, one sec
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> mutilating, not modifying
[22:09] <Spec-Chum> daftykins, nah, I'm good, i think lol
[22:10] <om3n> hey guys, is there a preference in linux for nvidia/ati for drivers etc or is it more specific than that ? iam trying to compose a list of hardware for a dedicated ubuntu box :P
[22:10] <mgaunard> is it normal that apt-get update takes more than two hours?
[22:10] <mgaunard> literally
[22:10] <daftykins> mgaunard: no
[22:10] <Spec-Chum> I'm a "gotta have it" type, if there's a new version of seom application I want it
[22:10] <Spec-Chum> *some
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> mgaunard  is the list that long, or the update that slow?
[22:10] <mgaunard> Fetched 27.5 MB in 2h 19min 12s (3,288 B/s)
[22:11] <Spec-Chum> Gnome 3.16 came out so you can probably guess what my Ubuntu Gnome install is running...
[22:11] <Spec-Chum> seems OK tho, oh and kernel 4
[22:12] <mgaunard> 15.04 uses kernel 4!?
[22:12] <k1l_> nope
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> mgaunard, it can, mine does
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> 3.19 by default
[22:12] <mgaunard> is it 25% better than 3.x?
[22:12] <Johnny_Linux> look ma, no hands
[22:12] <k1l_> the user Spec-Chum was just pointing out that he uses a lot of 3rd party software
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> can't say I noticed a difference
[22:13] <mgaunard> 4 is 1/4 bigger than 3 though
[22:13] <k1l_> Johnny_Linux: xcell, stop that please. ##chat for chatting
[22:13] <mgaunard> or are numbers senseless now
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> it's just 3.20 but Linux decided it was time to change to 4
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> there's not particulalry new in it
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> *nothing
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> Linus even
[22:14] <ModelEngine> I have noticed that i can google or ask a question about Lubuntu and regardless of the fact that I run Lubuntu, I can usually find my answer in the Ubuntu forums, etc. why is that?
[22:14] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: please don't discuss your unsupported mods, it's just going to give people bad ideas :(
[22:14] <mgaunard> ModelEngine: because lubuntu is ubuntu
[22:14] <ModelEngine> daftykins: i'm all for a bad idea
[22:14] <k1l_> ModelEngine: they share the same system base besides the installed desktop.
[22:14] <daftykins> ModelEngine: fine, but you can't ask for help here with such a thing :)
[22:15] <bekks> Spec-Chum: Then you did not read the changelog ;) At least live patching is worth noticing, like DAX, kasan, parallel NFS, and so on.
[22:15] <binBlob> I looked up the synaptics settings under windows and it is not called coasting but momentum.
[22:15] <Spec-Chum> daftykins, I feel it's somewhat relevant to be fair, it is direct from Ubuntu Mainline and I'm sure some people will want to know it works before trying it, but i do take your point and will cease
[22:15] <ModelEngine> cool. it's very handy. so my question is why is there both a ubuntu channel and a Lubuntu channel if they're  both run off the same kernel or w/e it's called?
[22:15] <ModelEngine> daftykins: lol :)
[22:15] <binBlob> No wonder I could not find anything
[22:15] <ricksebak> I have full disk encryption set up for /, /home, and swap, all using the same password. When I boot I have to enter the same password three times. Is there any way to make it so I only have to enter the password once?
[22:16] <Spec-Chum> bekks, I confess I didn't read most of it
[22:16] <mgaunard> what's kasan
[22:16] <k1l_> ModelEngine: because some issue are due to the used desktop enviroment or the different standard setup
[22:16] <mgaunard> sounds like kernel address sanitizer
[22:16] <bekks> mgaunard: kernel space sanitizer
[22:16] <bekks> Yeah.
[22:16] <ModelEngine> k1l_: oic. tkx
[22:16] <mgaunard> doesn't that add overhead?
[22:17] <Spec-Chum> bekks, it was new so obviously I had to have it :p
[22:17] <bekks> mgaunard: every fault detection adds overhead for a specific price.
[22:17] <bekks> Spec-Chum: There are meds that can heal versionitis, even bad forms of it ;)
[22:17] <gzcwnk> hehe
[22:18] <Spec-Chum> I think I'm too far gone..,
[22:18] <ModelEngine> 1 final question, then i'll leave you guys alone :) how do i set num lock to be permanently on, even when i first login to Lubuntu? Note: I have already set my BIOS to num lock state on
[22:22] <Bray90820> So I setup a samba share with ubuntu 15.04 and other computer can connect to it with the ip address but not the host name
[22:24] <daftykins> Bray90820: that's not an issue.
[22:25] <daftykins> IP based makes more sense and is reliable
[22:25] <daftykins> you should also use a static IP so it never changes internally.
[22:25] <Bray90820> daftykins: I am using static IP
[22:25] <daftykins> good stuff
[22:25] <Bray90820> but I use to be able to enter "smb://server/data" now only "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/data" works
[22:26] <ModelEngine> any one?
[22:27] <daftykins> Bray90820: yeah i don't consider that an issue.
[22:27] <daftykins> sounds like you changed router perhaps
[22:27] <binBlob> ok so now the question is how do I enable the momentum/interia feature ?
[22:28] <Bray90820> daftykins: I reformated my computer and installed 15.04 from 14.10
[22:30] <Bray90820> daftykins: Also the share isn't discoverable I have to enter it manually
[22:31] <daftykins> i take it you're installing desktop and selecting to share a folder via its' properties?
[22:31] <daftykins> again, if it's working - what's the problem?
[22:33] <Bray90820> Because I would prefer it to be auto discovered and to be able to use the hostname
[22:33] <daftykins> have fun with that then :)
[22:34] <tswett> Ahoy.
[22:34] <tswett> Now, I can ask questions about 15.04 now, right? I upgraded before it was actually released.
[22:34] <tswett> Without further ado...
[22:34] <daftykins> as long as you're up to date, sure
[22:35] <tswett> I'd like to make it so I can change my laptop's screen brightness using the keyboard. Ubuntu didn't seem to recognize the Fn brightness buttons, so I set up Super-Z and Super-X to do that instead.
[22:35] <EriC^^> tswett: ok, what's the problem?
[22:36] <tswett> Under System Settings / Keyboard / Shortcuts / Custom Shortcuts, I set one keyboard shortcut to do "xbacklight - 10", and the other to do "xbacklight + 10".
[22:36] <tswett> But now those keyboard shortcuts don't work. Running the commands manually still works, but the keyboard shortcuts don't.
[22:37] <EriC^^> try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10'"
[22:39] <tswett> Done. Pressing the shortcut still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:40] <happyfr0gg> Has anyone tried the Cyborg Hawk Linux? It is based on Ubuntu 14.04.
[22:40] <EriC^^> try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"
[22:40] <k1l_> happyfr0gg: we only support official ubuntu versions in here
[22:40] <EriC^^> tswett: it should leave the terminal open, see what it says
[22:41] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: unsupported derivative distros are off topic here
[22:42] <tswett> EriC^^: still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:42] <tswett> Even if I set it to just gnome-terminal, it still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:42] <Bray90820> I think there is something wrong with my host file
[22:43] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2ac4b4442f7791e8442a
[22:43] <EriC^^> tswett: it doesn't open a terminal?
[22:43] <tswett> EriC^^: nope.
[22:43] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"
[22:43] <EriC^^> that doesn't?
[22:43] <Bray90820> Server is my hostname so should it be changed to the IP of my machine
[22:43] <EriC^^> tswett: with bash at the end?
[22:43] <tswett> EriC^^: no, it doesn't.
[22:43] <tswett> Yup.
[22:44] <EriC^^> ok, then either you have a typo or the shortcut isn't working, try setting a different shortcut
[22:44] <daftykins> Bray90820: no
[22:44] <EriC^^> tswett: do you have gnome-terminal installed? are you on unity?
[22:44] <Bray90820> daftykins: Does that file look ok?
[22:44] <tswett> I notice that the keyboard shortcuts for "launch terminal", "launch web browser", and "home folder" don't seem to work, either. Nothing seems to happen when I press them.
[22:44] <daftykins> Bray90820: yes it's normal, your desire for connecting via hostname has nothing to do with the hosts file :)
[22:45] <tswett> I do have gnome-terminal installed. I can run it by typing it into itself.
[22:45] <Bray90820> Well then what would I do to fix the issue
[22:45] <EriC^^> tswett: ok, try setting a different shortcut something without super
[22:46] <daftykins> Bray90820: as i said earlier i don't consider it an issue so there's nothing to fix :)
[22:46] <daftykins> Bray90820: if you absolutely, DESPERATELY want host pinging, edit the other hosts to have the hostname and IP in their hosts files.
[22:46] <daftykins> that'd be the easiest way
[22:46] <daftykins> but you really should just remember IPs :>
[22:47] <Bray90820> What I don't understand is why hostnames would just randomly die
[22:48] <daftykins> you probably installed some other junk in the past, or had samba operating in a different way
[22:48] <tswett> I tried setting the "Home folder" shortcut to Ctrl-Alt-N. The shortcut still doesn't seem to work.
[22:48] <tswett> Sorry to cut this short, but I gotta go. Thanks for your help.
[22:49] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[22:50] <Bray90820> daftykins: Do hostnames work by default with samba on ubuntu?
[22:50] <daftykins> did you even read what i said?
[22:50] <daftykins> different versions can have different defaults.
[22:51] <Bray90820> daftykins: Hum alright then I may agree with you
[22:52] <daftykins> was the evidence not enough? :)
[22:52] <Bray90820> Well maybe there was something messing with it odk
[22:52] <Bray90820> idk
[22:54] <ki7rw> this is strange - i had to replace my hdd but when i restored the backups all the directories appeared on the user desktop - i can't delete the desktop icons without destroying the actual directory
[22:55] <daftykins> backed up with?
[22:55] <xray> hello
[22:55] <EriC^^> ki7rw: you mean you can't remove the individual files without doing rm -r ~/Desktop ?
[22:56] <xray> can you tell me what ubuntu 15 is like in security please
[22:56] <ki7rw> i can't delete the icon from the desktop without destroying the directory
[22:56] <bekks> xray: what do you mean?
[22:56] <daftykins> it is as secure as ubuntu is
[22:56] <EriC^^> ki7rw: anything in ~/Desktop usually shows on the desktop, how do you mean?
[22:56] <xray> is it better than ubuntu 14
[22:57] <daftykins> xray: there is no such thing as better, 14.04 is LTS, 15.04 is not - totally different
[22:57] <ki7rw> if the icon is labeled movies - then i delete the movies folder when i delete the icon from the desktop
[22:57] <xray> thanks for the great reply
[22:57] <EriC^^> ki7rw: where does it get deleted from?
[22:58] <xray> thanks daftkins
[22:58] <ki7rw> the icon is deleted from the desktop and the desktop icon represents the actual directory
[22:59] <EriC^^> ki7rw: which is located in ~/movies ?
[23:00] <EriC^^> ki7rw: can you paste ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <example> ?
[23:00] <ki7rw> yes
[23:00] <ki7rw> yes the the previous question
[23:01] <EriC^^> ok
[23:02] <ki7rw> i  guess i'll delete everything and try to restore again
[23:02] <EriC^^> ki7rw: can you paste here ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <some example> ?
[23:02] <ki7rw> this has never happened before - ubuntu 14.04
[23:05] <ki7rw> EriC^^, i tried that - didn't get any results unless i did ls -l without grep
[23:05] <AR45> daftykins: Got the cable.
[23:05] <EriC^^> ki7rw: ok, paste one of the lines
[23:05] <wish^> Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off
[23:05] <wish^> Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help
[23:05] <wish^> I know like someone said earlier that i can do a command to restart
[23:05] <wish^> but should this be necessary?
[23:05] <EriC^^> wish^: press esc when that happens and see what it says
[23:08] <wish^> seemed to be unresponsive
[23:09] <EriC^^> check /var/log/syslog maybe
[23:09] <EriC^^> wish^: if you open a tty do you get messages usually?
[23:09] <Zaitzev> Is there a way for me to check a textfile on a webpage and compare it to a local textfile, in set intervals?
[23:10] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: compare it how
[23:10] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: the content of it
[23:10] <ki7rw> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/cqL3uvSU
[23:11] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: you mean if it's an exact match?
[23:11] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: Yeah and if it differs, download and replace to local file
[23:16] <ki7rw> EriC^^, i suppose i could send you a screen shot of the desktop but that might expose something i don't want
[23:17] <dirtysnow> ^thats why god invented mspaint
[23:18] <Aramil> can someone help me i backed up my /home to a different partition for a reinstall and now i want to move it back to the same partition as /
[23:19] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: while sleep <interval>; do wget -O /path/to/file http://something; if [ "$(diff <(cat /path/to/file) <(cat /path/to/file2))" ]; then cp /path/to/file /path/to/file2; rm /path/to/file; fi; done
[23:19] <Zaitzev> :O
[23:19] <daftykins> AR45: huzzah, all sorted?
[23:20] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: You wracked your brain for that one huh? Nice one dude, I'll try it out!
[23:21] <EriC^^> Aramil: mount it and copy it
[23:21] <EriC^^> ki7rw: it's really odd, those are just .desktop files, no idea how they would delete a dir in your home
[23:22] <AR45> daftykins: na wasted a bunch of money
[23:22] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: it needs some fixing hold on
[23:23] <AR45> daftykins: Supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
[23:23] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: in case it can't download it or something so it doesn't rm the file
[23:23] <Aramil> EriC^^: thanks it will take a while had near 300gb of stuff backed up
[23:23] <daftykins> AR45: ah so the on-die intel can only do single link huh 0o
[23:23] <daftykins> that sucks
[23:24] <Spec-Chum> Aramil, you could just add the current /home partition to your fstab
[23:25] <Spec-Chum> but if you really do need them on the same partition then yes, just copy it
[23:25] <Aramil> i just hope i can get it done soon storms is a coming
[23:26] <Spec-Chum> Aramil, make sure you remove any reference of the old /home partition in fstab if it's currently in there
[23:26] <Spec-Chum> after you copy it, obviously
[23:27] <daftykins> Aramil: why not just wait then :>
[23:27] <AR45> daftykins: my mother board only supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
[23:27] <daftykins> well not your mobo but the graphics from the CPU more likely
[23:28] <AR45> daftykins: supports HDMI with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
[23:28] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: nevermind, just use && rm instead of ; rm it's not really safe against if the file suddenly becomes a 404 page or something, but in case it couldn't copy for some reason you'd still have the file it downloaded first
[23:28] <Zaitzev> I got it
[23:28] <AR45> daftykins: remember the monitor with the hdmi is working perfectly well that's why
[23:29] <AR45> daftykins: problem is there's only 1 hdmi port
[23:29] <AR45> daftykins: are you sure
[23:30] <ModelEngine> Hello, is it possible to download HexChat for Lubuntu?
[23:30] <EriC^^> ModelEngine: yeah, sudo apt-get install hexchat
[23:30] <k1l_> ModelEngine: "sudo apt-get install hexchat"
[23:30] <ModelEngine> EriC^^: super thanks
[23:31] <ModelEngine> also, is it possible to put custome apps on my Plank dock?
[23:31] <Spec-Chum> AR45, the HDMI port on your mobo will be using the IGP on the CPU
[23:32] <AR45> IGP?
[23:32] <Spec-Chum> Integrated Graphics Processor
[23:32] <daftykins> integrated/intel graphics processor
[23:32] <daftykins> AR45: doesn't matter either way i guess, you're out of luck
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> what's he trying to do?
[23:33] <ModelEngine> IGP, isn't that onboard graphics?
[23:33] <daftykins> i should think an i-series CPU would handle dual link DVI, but perhaps the motherboard doesn't have a dual link socket
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> missed the actual Q
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, yes
[23:33] <Horse> hello does anyone know if there is a new version of ubuntu coming out soon
[23:33] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: run 2 x 2560x1600 LCDs from on-die graphics
[23:33] <daftykins> one over HDMI, second over DVI
[23:33] <EriC^^> !wily
[23:33] <k1l_> Horse: there just was a release.
[23:33] <k1l_> !releases | Horse
[23:33] <daftykins> but it sounds like the motherboard manufacturer only put a single link DVI socket on
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Horse: A new version is released every 6 months .
[23:34] <Horse> ok will i have 14.04 version was wondering if there is one out or coming out soon
[23:35] <Spec-Chum> ah right, not sure about that
[23:35] <AR45> daftykins: so what the hell
[23:36] <AR45> daftykins: even if I got a hdmi splitter it wouldn't work
[23:36] <daftykins> pretty sure you cannot drive two displays from one socket
[23:37] <Spec-Chum> AR45, that'd output the same to both monitors anyway, surely not what you want?
[23:37] <daftykins> your only choice would be displayport daisy-chaining, which your displays would likely not support
[23:37] <daftykins> so it's graphics card time for you
[23:37] <AR45> FUCK
[23:37] <AR45> sorry
[23:37] <AR45> sorry guys
[23:37] <Horse> no problem
[23:38] <mectors> 7147 with lots of goodies. Where are you?
[23:38] <AR45> I was on the phone so I wasn't communicating properly.
[23:38] <AR45> So it's an intel 4600 onboard chip
[23:38] <daftykins> yeah haswell GT2
[23:38] <AR45> HD Graphics 4600 they call it
[23:38] <daftykins> kinda surprised you're getting by without a proper card anyway
[23:39] <Spec-Chum> oh I dunno, the 4600 is quite the powerhouse for an IGP
[23:39] <Spec-Chum> my laptop has one
[23:39]  * daftykins chuckles
[23:40] <AR45> dammit
[23:40] <Spec-Chum> it's also got a Nvidia GTX860M but it never uses it on linux
[23:40] <AR45> I'm guessing I have to get myself a NVIDIA GFX Card.
[23:41] <AR45> daftykins: http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H97PLUS/specifications/
[23:41] <daftykins> yip
[23:41] <daftykins> socket is dual-link
[23:41] <ki7rw> is there a way for 2 bluetooth headsets to share the same source?
[23:41] <daftykins> AR45: give me your CPU model?
[23:42] <AR45> daftykins: i5-4590
[23:44] <ModelEngine> is there a way to config hex chat to auto join #ubuntu?
[23:44] <Guest12381> yea
[23:44] <AR45> ModelEngine: more than likely
[23:44] <Guest12381> in the auto join tab, when setting up network
[23:44] <ModelEngine> like a fav list or something for my fav channels
[23:44] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, yeah, right click -> autojoin
[23:44] <ModelEngine> cool, thanks guys
[23:45] <Guest12381> will installing a setting to MBR with grub-customizer be certain to show all available operating systems at startup?
[23:46] <Guest12381> when grub is installed ofcf
[23:46] <Guest12381> ofc*
[23:46] <EriC^^> Guest12381: no grub setting is set in the mbr
[23:46] <Guest12381> so grub settings are already stored in the mbt
[23:46] <Guest12381> mbr*
[23:46] <Guest12381> ?
[23:47] <EriC^^> no, they're stored in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:47] <Guest12381> but the mbr has a copy?
[23:47] <Guest12381> or just accesses /boot partition when booting
[23:47] <EriC^^> no, the mbr just has the bootloader
[23:47] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:47] <Guest12381> so all boot files are in the /boot folder/partition and the mbr just reads that information?
[23:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:48] <ModelEngine> i'm pretty surprised regarding the lack of swearing and flamming on here.
[23:48] <Guest12381> cool , thanks
[23:48] <ModelEngine> is that due to it being moderated?
[23:48] <james_> hello there
[23:48] <daftykins> AR45: well that's a surprise to me, nope no dual-link DVI off the motherboard at all. The only options for high-res is HDMI, or having a board with displayport which obviously that one isn't
[23:48] <ModelEngine> is it moderated in real-time?
[23:49] <Guest12381> is what moderated?
[23:49] <AR45> Cool looks like I have to take some parts back.
[23:49] <daftykins> AR45: but you can drive one display from the HDMI there still and get even a super budget end card and have the second from there
[23:49] <AR45> They are all under 30 day warranty
[23:49] <ModelEngine> this channel?
[23:49] <daftykins> AR45: though i think i'd prefer a card both could come off for simplicity
[23:49] <Guest12381> yea ofc
[23:49] <Guest12381> read /topic
[23:49] <daftykins> ModelEngine: this place gets its fair share of trolls.
[23:49] <daftykins> some, it seems, have a problem with volunteer provided free help :(
[23:49] <ModelEngine> really? crazy. i don't know if ive ever seen a really bad batch of ppl on here
[23:50] <ModelEngine> is there a way to eject 'bad apples'?
[23:50] <Guest12381> bad apples?
[23:50] <AR45> daftykins: I was planning on getting a gfx card to run some games anyways.
[23:51] <ModelEngine> ppl swearing and such
[23:51] <Guest12381> yea, /kick command
[23:51] <ModelEngine> cool
[23:51] <Guest12381> only for operators though
[23:51] <ModelEngine> rats
[23:51] <ModelEngine> :)\
[23:51] <AR45> daftykins: The store has a 750TI for 159 bucks, not too sure how it benchmarks
[23:51] <daftykins> ModelEngine: if you see some idiots, join #ubuntu-ops and report them.
[23:51] <ModelEngine> cool thanks dafty
[23:52] <daftykins> AR45: mmm, not too bad i guess. bear in mind that card requires some slight fiddling to get running on 14.04
[23:52] <AR45> I'm using 15.05
[23:52] <AR45> I'm using 15.04*
[23:53] <daftykins> alright, you'll still need to install an nvidia 340+ driver for that one
[23:53] <AR45> daftykins: http://www.microcenter.com/product/354355/GeForce_8400_GS_1024MB_DDR3_PCIe_20_x16_Video_Card
[23:54] <daftykins> nah 8400GS are ghetto as
[23:54] <AR45> daftykins: recommend something man
[23:54] <daftykins> nah
[23:54] <AR45> o_o
[23:54] <daftykins> plus you didn't say the magic word even!
[23:54] <daftykins> but no i'm too busy right now
[23:54] <daftykins> ask ##hardware perhaps
[23:54] <AR45> daftykins: what are you using?
[23:55] <daftykins> a 7 year old PC :)
[23:56] <AR45> Oh!
[23:57] <grend> hi folks
[23:57] <daftykins> hello again grend
[23:57] <grend> daftykins: http://pastie.org/private/vcevio4jhhsm6cglolga
[23:57] <grend> :)
[23:57] <daftykins> what happened with your faulty hard disk situation?
[23:58] <grend> well I am awake now and I managed to boot up using live cd
[23:58] <grend> and run a test
[23:58] <daftykins> hmm that appears to only be a partial smartctl output
[23:58] <daftykins> smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit