[00:00] <brimlar> imanc: "uname -r" gives kernel version, "lsb_release -a" gives Ubuntu release info
[00:00] <bastidrazor> imanc: lsb_release -a
[00:00] <JessD> muelli : If the latter, that's not a concern given the nature of the box.  It's purpose is to allow a group of trusted users to easily share files over samba
[00:00] <imanc> fantastic… thanks chasp
[00:00] <imanc> chaps
[00:00] <muelli> well JessD. I still don't think I've fully understood your requirements. But from what you've answered: "/dev/sdb to carry, say, 0777 once you plug a pendrive in" - "exactly" then any (!) user could write to the block device. That means brickage.
[00:00] <bastidrazor> mun: you may need a reboot?
[00:00] <dejahthoris> harry7; I'd like to help you further, but I've never personally needed to blacklist the pata driver
[00:00] <JessD> muelli : If I were worried about malicious users, I a) wouldn't use samba and b) wouldn't be using this method for perms
[00:01] <muelli> oh, and I mean the block device not the mounted filesystem.
[00:01] <JessD> muelli : alrighty then.
[00:01] <harry7> dejahthori : its ok. tell me what to do an i will try. if i mes thing up i can always reinstall
[00:01] <mun> bastidrazor, ok i'll try rebooting
[00:02] <harry7> dejahthori: i am looking this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=27756
[00:02] <mun> i have another problem: i'm trying to setup a cronjob that calls a sudo command, but i keep getting an error from the cronjob. the cronjob is in the user table; is that ok?
[00:02] <harry7> is it the same prob?
[00:04] <karsten> mun: Generally, you'd set up a cronjob to run as root, then, if you want to invoke a specific user, use 'su' to do that, in one of the system crontab files:  /etc/crontab, /etc/cron.d/<filename>, or /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly}
[00:04] <karsten> mun: the /etc/crontab syntax also supports naming the user to run as.  man 5 crontab.
[00:05] <ubuntu_noob_dont> trying to confirm that if you are running xubuntu directly from the CD and not installed on the HD that you are unable to add a wireless connection.  Any help appreciated.
[00:05] <dejahthoris> harry7; if you already have it installed, you might be able to create a "pata.conf" file in /etc/modprobe.d
[00:06] <karsten> mun: fields are (see "SYSTEM CRON FILE): m h dom mon dow user command.
[00:06] <harry7> dejahthoris: how can i do that?
[00:07] <mun> karsten, so do you mean i should try setting it in root's crontab (sudo crontab -e)?
[00:07] <karsten> mun: No.
[00:07] <dejahthoris> harry7; have you completed the install yet, or it the installer hanging?
[00:07] <karsten> mun: My recommendation would be to use an /etc/cron.d/ file.
[00:07] <xubuntu6> check the crontab
[00:07] <karsten> mun: You could also put it in /etc/crontab, but managing that gets ugly if you're adding a lot of cron jobs.
[00:07] <mun> karsten, well i only got 1 cronjob here
[00:07] <harry7> dejahthoris: i have completed installation of ubuntu 11.10
[00:07] <_Ethan_> what is better for a pictures "falling effec" adobe premiere or adobe after effects? any suggestion ?¿
[00:08] <harry7> dejahthoris: where is the blacklist file located
[00:08] <karsten> mun: I expect this is a system, not a regular, user that you're trying to run this as.  Maintaining indivdual crontabs for systems users is a pretty bad idea -- hard to manage.
[00:08] <karsten> mun: Good practices start early.
[00:08] <karsten> mun: I've only been doing this for, oh, 25 years or so.
[00:08] <dejahthoris> harry7; in /etc/modprobe.d/
[00:08] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok
[00:08] <_Ethan_> what is better for a pictures "falling effec" adobe premiere or adobe after effects? any suggestion ?¿
[00:09] <karsten> mun: ... but what do I know.
[00:09] <cfhowlett> !OT|_Ethan_
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> I LOVE 12.04!
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> THANKS
[00:09] <FloatingGoat> BYE
[00:09] <dejahthoris> harry7; beyond this, I have no experience with your exact problem, so I shouldn't try to give advice
[00:10] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok thank you for all :)
[00:10] <dejahthoris> harry7l you're welcome
[00:11] <seangibbz> hello
[00:11] <Gskellig> is there a good program similar to CPU-z for windows where I can see lots of info about cpu and ram for ubuntu/linux?
[00:11] <Gskellig> gui preferred but not necessary
[00:11] <cfhowlett> seangibbz   greetings
[00:11] <cfhowlett> Gskellig   see screenlets
[00:11] <seangibbz> how are you guys?
[00:11] <dejahthoris> Gskellig; "top" doesn't tell you enough?
[00:11] <mun> karsten, ok. i've tried creating a file in /etc/cron.d but i'm getting the same error: exit with status 2
[00:12] <mun> karsten, also i have root as the user
[00:12] <Gskellig> no it doesn't =(
[00:12] <karsten> mun: sudo -e /etc/cron.d/<somefile>
[00:12] <mun> karsten, i had the same problem with this cronjob before upgrading to 11.10. the fix was to add xhost local:root but now it doesn't seem to help.
[00:12] <karsten> mun: ... will invoke an editor and allow you to edit that file.  You need to be in sudoers, which if you installed ubuntu you should be.
[00:13] <karsten> mun: If you're not, hack root (boot single user) and add yourself to sudoers.
[00:13] <karsten> mun: ... or talk to whomever owns the box and have them grant you sudo privs.
[00:13] <psusi> Gskellig, try lshw
[00:14] <mun> karsten, yeah i managed to edit using sudo -e
[00:14] <karsten> There you go.
[00:14] <karsten> Test that the cronjob works as you want it to.  They're a bit tricky that way.
[00:14] <mun> karsten, just that the cronjob gives an error
[00:14] <mun> error (grandchild #3000 failed with exit status 2)
[00:14] <mun> this comes from syslog
[00:14] <Gskellig> lshw is pretty good
[00:14] <Gskellig> thanks
[00:15] <zacarias> is there an alternative to gnome-tweak-tool?
[00:15] <mun> if i set the user to my user, i get exit status 1
[00:15] <muelli> zacarias: dconf-editor ;-)
[00:15] <almoxarife> mun: using kde task scheduler?
[00:15] <escott> zacarias, gsettings cli
[00:15] <cfhowlett> zacarias   ubuntu tweak
[00:15] <mun> almoxarife, nope. i'm on gnome.
[00:15] <karsten> mun: paste the cronjob enry here.
[00:15] <almoxarife> mun: i get the same error with mentioned
[00:15] <karsten> entry.
[00:16] <mun> karsten, */1 * * * * root python ~/Misc/revoco-battery.py
[00:16] <escott> mun, you shouldn't use relative paths in crontab entries
[00:16] <karsten> mun: Use an absolute path for the command, not a tilde.
[00:16] <karsten>    So:  /home/<username>/Misc/revoco-battery.py
[00:17] <almoxarife> mun: and the crontab is created, just cant be excuted, google it, no help there
[00:17] <karsten> escott: technically, it's not a relative path, but it is a shell expansion.
[00:17] <mun> karsten, ok. let me wait for the next minute.
[00:17] <mun> almoxarife, yeah, i've tried googling. but last time i fixed it with xhost local:root
[00:18] <karsten> mun: If your python script uses #!/usr/bin/python notation, you can invoke it directly rather than calling it with python.
[00:18] <mun> escott, karsten, omg.. that fixed it.
[00:18] <karsten> mun: Welcome to crontab troubleshooting ;-)
[00:18] <mun> bloody hell..
[00:18] <zacarias> escott: that's what I will probably use, although is no that easy and I don't want to mess thinhs up
[00:18] <mun> thanks a lot guys
[00:18] <zacarias> muelli: is it cli or gui?
[00:19] <muelli> zacarias: GUI.
[00:19] <zacarias> cfhowlett: It crashes before it does anything (and gnome-tweak-tool doesn't even launch, it give sme an error message)
[00:19] <almoxarife> mun: from i see happening the crash is not cron related, i set up a job for every two mins, and it ran like it should, but crashing just like you see it, its not the cron portion, variables ?
[00:20] <zacarias> muelli: thanks, I'll try that
 why can't i view images i pull off my external hard drive?  the images put on there have no thumbnails, but they have the name of *.jpg and looking at properties it shows that the images of JPG type.  what happens when i try to view one of them is the "image viewer" program will open, but nothing is shown.  if i just copy the image from the external hard drive to my desktop then i can view the image with no problems.
[00:20] <thevaliantx>   what gives?
[00:20] <cfhowlett> zacarias   I'll take the -1 for teh ffilaed suggestion.  Sorry.
[00:20] <karsten> mun: NP.
[00:24] <zacarias> cfhowlett: ?
[00:25] <cfhowlett> zacarias   hmmm??
[00:26] <zacarias> cfhowlett: sorry, I didn't understand your last message (that's why I messaged a question mark)
[00:26] <cfhowlett> zacarias   see http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[00:26] <cfhowlett> zacarias   not 11.04 and older only
[00:26] <pilun> hola
[00:26] <cfhowlett> !es|pilun
[00:27] <zacarias> cfhowlett: it doesn't work on 11.10?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> zacarias   nope.  sorry.
[00:29] <harry7> :) ok back again. actually i managed to resolve my big problem. it turns out the pata-controller makes my kernel hangs up forever. put blacklist pata-amd on that balck list and now my OS boots normally. thank you man that i dont remmeber your nickname :)
[00:30] <dejahthoris> harry7; excellent news
[00:30] <harry7> let see if blacklisting pata-amd brakes anything else
[00:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: oh  didnt remember your name
[00:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: thank a lot
[00:31] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:32] <harry7> dejahthoris: i hope i will not brake anything
[00:32] <dejahthoris> harry7; it shouldn't
[00:32] <harry7> now that i blacklisted pata-amd what was that for
[00:32] <harry7> what is pata used for?
[00:33] <kraz3d> Is there a VNC server for ubuntu that would allow me to access my computer via a foreign web browser?
[00:33] <dejahthoris> harry7; that only disabled the legacy pata controller which didn't have any hdd on it anyways
[00:33] <harry7> dejahthoris: ah ok. than good to go :)
[00:33] <harry7> dejahthoris: thank you
[00:33] <dejahthoris> harry7; pata is the old ata controller, the one wuth 40 pins
[00:34] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:34] <harry7> now is there any good tutorial on how to install latest nvidia proprietary. the one that you download from nvidia website??
[00:35] <dejahthoris> harry7; no idea, I don't do nvidia video cards
[00:35] <harry7> ah ok. no prob
[00:35] <escott> !nvidia | harry7
[00:36] <escott> harry7, and don't download it directly use jockey-gtk
[00:36] <harry7> escott: i used that but the driver on the nvidia website its newer
[00:37] <escott> harry7, the supported method is jockey-gtk
[00:37] <harry7> escott: i have 280.13 and the driver i downloaded from them is 295.20
[00:38] <harry7> but its a .run
[00:38] <diverdude> Is all logging in ubuntu using rsyslog?
[00:38] <aethelrick> harry7, new is not always best... do you need the very latest driver for a reason or can you not use the latest stable supported one?
[00:38] <peter__> #list
[00:38] <escott> harry7, i don't care, use jockey-gtk. there are all kinds of issues with installing something outside of the repos and without a good reason you won't find much support on this channel
[00:39] <harry7> i gues i am gonna stay with what escott says
[00:39] <escott> diverdude, it is the default syslog application... so yes
[00:40] <aethelrick> harry7, in some cases, I've had the newer driver perform worse for an older card... best to stick with what is tested :)
[00:40] <diverdude> escott: so where is it set up that e.g. apache's log messages sent to rsyslog is stored in /var/log/apache2 ?
[00:41] <escott> diverdude, check /etc/rsyslog.d/
[00:43] <mattwhelan> Anyone here have an opinion on which would be a better desktop for Ubuntu: ~2005 Apple PowerPC G5 tower or a 4 year old cheapo Dell desktop tower?
[00:43] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; how cheapo?
[00:43] <aBound> I don't think a PowerPC arch is supported for Ubuntu anymore.
[00:43] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   powerpc is going to be more difficult...
[00:43] <escott> !ppc
[00:45] <mattwhelan> The Dell is an Inspiron, I don't know the exact specs offhand, but I think the specs are not as good as the Mac. Total average consumer Dell machine.
[00:45] <Gergov> guys i guess a lot of people like me asking but why and how to fix skype mic and camera? now my camera didnt work i found an article http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html and now for a brief moment works, but then skype crashes. and the mic people say they can hear something but the sound is terrible with a lot of noise and my words tear . i am using ubuntu 10.04 and its just a default installation
[00:45] <peter__> arg!
[00:45] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; Inspiron but which model number?
[00:46] <peter__> anyone particularly skilled in making a intel wireless card 5100 agn work?
[00:46] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   I just gave away my 2001 dell - still worked still ran ubuntu...
[00:46] <wingnut2626l> im trying to configure my computer to be an ftp server using wu-ftpd.  i run the command but it just brings me to another prompt.  what do i do?
[00:46] <diverdude> escott: hmm ok...didnt really find anything there...but seems that rsyslog config is fragmented into many files. I found /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, /etc/rsyslog.d/20-ufw.conf and /etc/default/rsyslog. why so many, and are there more?
[00:46] <escott> Gergov, what is not working about the camera
[00:46] <mattwhelan> Would it be a total mess/ordeal to try and get Ubuntu (community port) working well on the G5? I can get my hands on a dual processer 2.5 w/ 6GB Ram, later model. Just don't want to be running into issues every week.
[00:47] <mattwhelan> Not sure of the Inspiron model. I know for a fact it runs Ubuntu fine, just wondering if the G5 would be a better option since the specs are much better, or if it's too much trouble.
[00:47] <OerHeks> mattwhelan, i think G5 lacks support on flash.. not sure it still is.
[00:47] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   you'd have to ask the ppc folk...
[00:47] <escott> diverdude, syslog interacts with multiple programs so its helpful to have a separate config file for each program it interacts with. this is a common approach in /etc
[00:47] <Gergov> escott, first when i click "turn on camera" nothing happened. like there is no camera. after the article. i did what its written there, and now i start the camera, people see me kind of blueish and after 1-2 min skype crashes and i have to start it again
[00:48] <dejahthoris> mattwhelan; the question isn't how lame the Inspiron is now, but how much you might upgrade it cheaply using junk parts
[00:48] <cfhowlett> mattwhelan   dejahthoris has a point.  That machine is ancient!
[00:49] <diverdude> escott: hmm but there are only those 4 files but way more programs interacts with rsyslog
[00:49] <escott> Gergov, if the camera works in other applications (like cheese) one thing you can try is to use some LD_PRELOAD tricks to force skype to use libv4l. start with installing libv4l-0:i386
[00:49] <escott> diverdude, some may not require any special configuration. you would have to read the config files. i don't know much about rsyslog
[00:51] <Gergov> escott, thats exactly what i am doing now. i am starting skype with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype . and this is where, when i start the camera, skype it crashes after 2 min
[00:51] <escott> Gergov, so you are running x86 then
[00:51] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons.  I know how to switch them to left panel, but if I switch to another theme and them back to US, buttons reset to right-panel.  How do I lock the buttons to left panel in gnome-conf?
[00:52] <Gergov> escott, sorry but i kinda dont know hihihi i think yes tho :) how can i check to be sure?
[00:52] <escott> Gergov, uname -a see if it says x86_64 anywhere.
[00:53] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons.  I know how to switch them to left panel, but if I switch to another theme and them back to US, buttons reset to right-panel.  How do I lock the buttons to left panel in *gconf-editor*
[00:53] <escott> Gergov, it should say i386/i686 for your preload to be correct
[00:53] <Gergov> i686 GNU/Linux
[00:53] <Gergov>  at the end
[00:54] <escott> Gergov, then its out of my depth. there are some environment variables LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS but i dont know what they do
[00:54] <Gergov> thanks for your help tho :)
[00:55] <Gergov> escott, any idea about the mic then ?
[00:55] <escott> Gergov, alsamixer. check the mic gain boost
[00:55] <vubuntor979> how to ren {01, 02, 03, 04}.mp3 to {abc01, abc02, abc03, abc04}.mp3
[00:55] <vubuntor979> thanks
[00:55] <cfhowlett> My ubuntustudio theme has the right-panel buttons,  I know how to switch them to left-panel via gconf-editor - now how do I make that change stick?
[00:56] <Gergov> escott, mic boost 0<>0
[00:56] <escott> vubuntor979, rename is a perl application which can do this. or you can use a bash loop: for f in *.mp3; do echo $f abc$f; done (replace the echo with mv)
[00:57] <vubuntor979> other same as "mv ??.mp3 /abc/*"
[00:57] <vubuntor979> ??
[00:58] <cfhowlett> vubuntor979   see http://www.ossramblings.com/bulk_rename_mp3_files_in_linux
[01:00] <vubuntor979> thank s cfhowlett
[01:01] <cfhowlett> vubuntor979   have fun/be safe
[01:06] <vubuntor979> thanks cfhowlett
[01:07] <n0sq> i'm having trouble installing updates - 2 packages are unauthenticated so i deselected them but it still won't let me update the others
[01:09] <arun_india> ./intro
[01:10] <arun_india> msg
[01:10] <arun_india> MSG
[01:10] <n0sq> hmm, gpg key not found on keyserver
[01:11] <escott> !topic | arun_india
[01:11] <jlb181> n0sq I've found when I have trouble like that I can use the command line to do the upgrade.  sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <arun_india> k
[01:16] <socrates_johnson> hello, i can't convert ogv to avi/mp4 using ffmpeg, winff, or openshot in ubuntu...handbrake works fine and i can convert the file using ffmpeg in redhat or winff in windows (so i don't think it's the file)
[01:16] <jlb181> n0sq https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  about two thirds down the page it talks about authentication.
[01:17] <ki7rw> i'm not able to find this key: 0x40976EAF437D05B5
[01:17] <jlb181> I think that is the best I can do for you myself.
[01:17] <Ahoalton> I am trying to change the boot order in grub.  I currently have Ubuntu 11.10 and win 7 dual booted
[01:17] <escott> ki7rw, selfsig http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x40976EAF437D05B5
[01:18] <Ahoalton> can someone point me in the right direction please?
[01:18] <escott> Ahoalton, grub-set-default
[01:19] <Ahoalton> how do I access that escott?
[01:19] <jswagner> from a terminal
[01:19] <escott> Ahoalton, its a command line utility
[01:19] <Ahoalton> I want to make windows 7 my first boot, currently ubuntu is
[01:20] <sozomen> im about to format an external harddrive with disk utility -- if i do Master Boot Record (ive never seen this) will it likely work with an xbox 360?
[01:20] <Ahoalton> ok escott, are you can you help me when I boot into ubuntu in a few minutes?
[01:20] <escott> Ahoalton, yes
[01:20] <jswagner> Ahoalton: open a terminal and use grub-set-default.  check the help screen/man page for details.
[01:21] <escott> Ahoalton, make a note of what number windows is in the boot menu
[01:21] <ki7rw> escott: thanks
[01:21] <Ahoalton> thank you, ttyl
[01:21] <Ahoalton> thanks brb
[01:21] <escott> sozomen, you want to boot an alternate os on the xbox?
[01:22] <sozomen> no, just for movies and whatnot
[01:22] <sozomen> using the usb port
[01:23] <escott> sozomen, it would have to be ntfs, and you should generally be creating ntfs partitions from within windows. there may be additional restrictions on the xbox filesystem. im not sure if it standard ntfs or not
[01:25] <sozomen> tried to format in NTFS and got this "Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:25] <CXIV1> I want to install lubuntu on usb , does that reserved extra space refferers only to /home or just also to later installed packages?
[01:26] <escott> CXIV1, both
[01:26] <CXIV1> escott Thanks
[01:26] <dvhh> ntfs doesn't  work with the xbox
[01:26] <dvhh> only fat
[01:26] <wingnut2626l> once i set up my ftp server using vsftpd, how do i access the ftp from another computer
[01:28] <sozomen> dvhh thanks
[01:28] <Ahoalton> escott:  what was the command again?
[01:29] <escott> Ahoalton, what option number is the windows?
[01:29] <Ahoalton> 5 I believe
[01:29] <Ahoalton> its last
[01:29] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   reserved space is for files that are NOT part or the lubuntu filesystem
[01:29] <CXIV1> cfhowlett ..
[01:29] <socrates_johnson> sorry, does anyone have thoughts on setting up codecs so I convert ogv to avi using ffmpeg or openshot? thank you
[01:30] <cfhowlett> socrates_johnson   ubuntu-restricted-extras for the codecs...
[01:30] <CXIV1> cfhowlett So after installing some packages that packages will not be located there?
[01:30] <escott> Ahoalton, i think its zero indexed so try sudo set-grub-default 4. if that doesn't boot the correct entry try again with sudo set-grub-default 5
[01:31] <Ahoalton> so that will move windows to number one?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   installed packages go into the ubuntu filesystem as normal.  If you also wish to use the USB as a storage medium when it's NOT booting ubuntu, leave some extras space
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> hi friends, i have one usb drive with don't work on my ubntu laptop. on all other ubuntu computers in the company the stick works fine. Here is my dmesg and my lsusb
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/845243/
[01:31] <leo-unglaub> du you have any ideas why?
[01:31] <escott> Ahoalton, it changes what the default option is. it doesn't reorder the entries in any way
[01:31] <Ahoalton> oh, ok, is it possible to reorder the entries?
[01:31] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   it's not ubuntu - it's that computer.  does it support USB boot?
[01:32] <CXIV1>  cfhowlett I got 8 gb usb drive , and I set 4 gb for that extra settings space.
[01:32] <escott> leo-unglaub, can you try a different port?
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: i am not talking abount booting from it. i just mean simply copying fiels on it
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> escott: i tryed all 4 ports
[01:32] <CXIV1> I think it should be enough
[01:32] <cfhowlett> CXIV1   sounds good...
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> and all other sticks work fine on my laptop
[01:32] <leo-unglaub> just not this one
[01:33] <socrates_johnson> cfhowlett: thank you, unfortunately i have those installed already
[01:33] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   does the one computer support USB read/write?  Some companies disable it...
[01:33] <cfhowlett> socrates_johnson   ah.  sorry, then.
[01:34] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: i am the tech admin in this company. i have all rights on all of the machines.
[01:34] <socrates_johnson> cfhowlett: no worries, thank you
[01:34] <themonitor> an anyone help  me understand this? I installed  the latest ubuntu and adobe flash was using my gpu  but in slack it doesn't. Is there a configuration  that I need to do or is it something like ubuntu  just having newer software?
[01:34] <Ahoalton> it says command not found escott
[01:35] <cfhowlett> leo-unglaub   that answers that.  IDK what's going on there.  Sorry.
[01:35] <themonitor> I know this isn't a specific issue. I'm just looking to be pointed in the rigt direction
[01:35] <leo-unglaub> cfhowlett: thanks anyway :)
[01:35] <themonitor> I want to understand better how linux in general interacts with the gpu
[01:35] <Ahoalton> escott:  is grub-set-default
[01:35] <Ahoalton> thanks just had to flip them
[01:35] <escott> Ahoalton, grub-set-default
[01:35] <Ahoalton> gonna try it
[01:36] <Ahoalton> brb to tell you
[01:38] <axisys> what's the best way to offline copy of a website?
[01:39] <dvhh> axisys: wget ?
[01:39] <themonitor> axisys: that was going to be my suggestion.
[01:39] <axisys> dvhh: i see wget -mk looks good
[01:39] <axisys> ok
[01:39] <axisys> themonitor, dvhh : thanks guys
[01:39] <themonitor> np :)
[01:40] <dvhh> themonitor: :p axisys: ;)
[01:40] <joseluis> ..
[01:41] <axisys> it will work with http://example.com/index.cgi ?
[01:42] <escott> axisys, it will be able to copy all the static content
[01:43] <axisys> ok
[01:44] <axisys> hwo about a message board site?
[01:44] <axisys> i see tons of index.cgi?files
[01:45] <escott> axisys, (a) you shouldn't do that without the permission or the website owner (b) if all you want is the static content yes
[01:46] <axisys> i was asked by the one of the member if they can offline copy the site
[01:46] <escott> axisys, doing it with wget would be the stupidest most inconsiderate way of doing so
[01:46] <escott> axisys, the proper way to do this is to copy the sql database (its probably mysql)
[01:47] <iguest> what is the channel name for ubuntu 12.04 alpha?
[01:47] <Ben64> #ubuntu+1
[01:47] <axisys> escott: hmm
[01:47] <EvilResistance> !12.04 | iguest
[01:47] <iguest> tnx
[01:50]  * ki7rw probably shouldn't upgrade packages without a good signature but i like to live dangerously
[01:55] <elektron_> can someone help me
[01:55] <elektron_> i'm doing a class project
[01:55] <elektron_> and I need to generate some "real" data
[01:55] <elektron_> anyways
[01:55] <elektron_> if you can fill this form out
[01:55] <elektron_> it'd be awesome
[01:55] <elektron_> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEQwZktDMFJGU3U0eG5lSklFQzBqMWc6MQ
[01:55] <FloodBot1> elektron_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <EvilResistance> elektron_:  this isnt the channel for such things.
[01:56] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | elektron_
[02:00] <gbuchdahl> I have a rather stupid question
[02:00] <gbuchdahl>  idownloaded ubuntu recently
[02:00] <gbuchdahl> and my bluetooth mouse has not connected
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> so I can't click install
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> so what do I do
[02:01] <steviesteveo> Do you have a usb mouse?
[02:01] <gbuchdahl> I do: do I have to use it forever?
[02:01] <StevenX> Hello everyone. Is there a "remote desktop software" for ubuntu like there is for Windows? I am currently using TeamViewer, but it is used through Wine and doesn't work too well.
[02:01] <Ben64> !vnc | StevenX
[02:02] <steviesteveo> No, just long enough to install ubuntu and get bluetooth set up
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> thanks
[02:02] <resno> i just downloaded ubuntu 11.10 live, and i need the login credentials to get on
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> um
[02:02] <StevenX> Ben64: Thanks!
[02:02] <gbuchdahl> can I plus one you?
[02:02] <StevenX> !FreeNX
[02:04] <meskarune> StevenX: there is a linux version of teamviewer, you don't have to run it through wine. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[02:04] <_Marcus> TeamViewer is okay, if you don't want to open anything on your firewall. It gets slow at times.
[02:08] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[02:08] <StevenX> meskarune, I *thought* I had downloaded that one, but it still ran through wine.
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> I just went on ebay and had only part of the site allowed in noscript, then I wanted to right click on a line of text that I marked and then the site went gray and a window appeared in the center saying "Text by Dirtyharry9999"
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> any idea what that is?
[02:09] <swang1> 以后有的罪受了。。
[02:09] <StevenX> meskarune, would that make any sense or do you think I downloaded the wrong one?
[02:09] <Lunar_Lander> when I switched the site fully on in noscript, that disappeared
[02:09] <Ben64> StevenX: teamviewer is available in the software center, you shouldn't download it from the website anyway.
[02:10] <StevenX> _Marcus, but with TeamViewer I can use as a client a windows pc or an android phone, which is pretty nice.
[02:10] <Ben64> StevenX: there are vnc clients on windows and android as well
[02:10] <_Marcus> StevenX: True.
[02:10] <jon23d> I can't eject any of my cd drives, when I press the button, run eject, or even stick a pin in either one of them, it tries to eject but fails.
[02:11] <jon23d> Ubuntu seems to think they are SCSI, but I've got them connected with SATA cables
[02:11] <jon23d> And when I can get them to open, they read/write just fine...
[02:11] <_Marcus> StevenX: I like my data going from me to the target machine, not me to TeamViewer to target machine. It's faster, and more secure.
[02:11] <Ben64> jon23d: you have to unmount the disc before ejecting
[02:11] <jon23d> they aren't mounted
[02:11] <jon23d> ben64: they are both empty
[02:11] <Ben64> jon23d: then the drives could be messed up?
[02:12] <jon23d> ben64: it seems unlikely that two newish drives would both fail though, doesn't it?
[02:12] <Lunar_Lander> does anybody have an idea on my problem?
[02:12] <StevenX> Ben64: So if I install VNC server, then all I need to access it is a generic VNC client software? No need for it to be "compatible." For example, I can't access Teamviewer with anything but TeamViewer.
[02:12] <StevenX> _Marcus: Very true.
[02:13] <Ben64> jon23d: only if they're mounted would they not eject. and using a pin or paperclip to open it can't fail unless something is physically wrong with the drive
[02:13] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: I just joined. What is your problem?
[02:13] <_Marcus> StevenX: Of course, that's my opinion. You can use whatever software you like :)
[02:13] <Ben64> StevenX: correct. any vnc client will connect to any vnc server
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> I just went on ebay and had only part of the site allowed in noscript, then I wanted to right click on a line of text that I marked and then the site went gray and a window appeared in the center saying "Text by Dirtyharry9999"
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> when I did that again, it came on again only with a box to check that said "Prevent this site from showing further messages"
[02:13] <Lunar_Lander> when I switched the site fully on in noscript, that disappeared
[02:13] <jon23d> ben64: could the fact that ubuntu reports a scsi connection with them have anything to do with it?  The behavior is identical for both drives, which makes me think the chances of it being a hardware failure is slim
[02:14] <StevenX> Ben64: Ah, gotcha. Thank you! I wasn't aware. I thought each VNC server software had its own proprietary client software. Now this opens up a whole new level.
[02:14] <StevenX> ;-)
[02:14] <escott> jon23d, ATAPI and SATA send SCSI commands over ATA so it can all get very confusing, but these days nothing is what used to be ATA
[02:14] <Ben64> jon23d: try ejecting them while in the bios or something
[02:14] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: I think that's off topic.
[02:14] <jon23d> ben64: I wonder if something has a lock on them, but I can't unlock them from the terminal either, hdparm -L 0 /dev/cdrom: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(doorlock) failed: Bad address
[02:15] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: Then noscript is interfering with something. Just add ebay to it's whitelist.
[02:15] <Lunar_Lander> OK, thanks
[02:15] <jon23d> ben64: kk, I'll give it a shot and report back :) thanks
[02:15] <Ben64> jon23d: its probably /dev/sr0 though
[02:15] <jon23d> ben64: same result
[02:16] <Canadian1296> Lunar_Lander: No problem :)
[02:16] <Ben64> StevenX: yep, i have vino-server on my desktop, pocketcloud client on android, tightvnc client on another desktop, and everything works together fine
[02:16] <jonathon> Scanning (from HP 2100c) not working after hooking up a printer with a scanner, worked well before. Don't need the color printer as much as I need the scanner. How can I clear out system's information about other printer so original scanner works? Thank you:)
[02:17] <meskarune> StevenX: I see. I guess the linux version uses wine adn some windows libraries to work. I don't know of any simple multiplatform remote desktop applications thoguh :/
[02:17] <jonathon> Scanning (from HP 2100c) not working after hooking up a printer with a scanner, worked well before. Don't need the color printer as much as I need the scanner. How can I clear out system's information about other printer so original scanner works? Thank you:) Ubuntu 10.04
[02:17] <Ben64> !patience | jonathon
[02:18] <jonathon> Ben64 wanted to add version sorry
[02:19] <Canadian1296> jonathon: You could've added the version without repeating the whole question though…
[02:19] <walrus__> Can anyone help me out getting the win7 installer on a usb (Xubuntu 11.10)
[02:20] <Canadian1296> walrus__: You have Windows and desire Ubuntu, or have Ubuntu and desire Windows?
[02:21] <walrus__> I have Ubuntu, and desire windows
[02:21] <meskarune> he is trying to mount the windows installer on a usb from ubuntu
[02:21] <CIDR> Is it possible to install or created during an install a software Raid10 ?
[02:21] <Ben64> thats not really a ubuntu issue
[02:21] <Wargasm> geh... windows...
[02:21] <psusi> walrus__, then you should ask in #windows or something, though I don't think that's even possible
[02:21] <jon23d> ben64: they opened fine in the bios, but won't open again in ubuntu
[02:21] <Canadian1296> Wargasm: Agreed
[02:21] <walrus__> I've done it in windows, just figures I'd try her :P
[02:21] <meskarune> if he is trying to make a usb from ubuntu it is an ubuntu issue
[02:21] <walrus__> here*
[02:21] <Ben64> jon23d: open a terminal and try "eject"
[02:22] <jon23d> it doesn't do it
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: You want to put the Windows 7 installer on a USB from xubuntu?
[02:22] <Ben64> jon23d: open a terminal and try "sudo eject"
[02:22] <walrus__> Yes
[02:22] <psusi> CIDR, sure... you can create a software raid10 during install with the alternate installer, or do you have a fakeraid card?
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: doesn't work there either
[02:22] <Canadian1296> psusi: I think he wants to know how to make a bootable usb in ubuntu. The people in #windows wouldn't know anything about that
[02:22] <CIDR> psusi: I'd just prefer to use software raid10
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: If xubuntu is a supported distro here, I guess it is on topic
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: its almost like something has locked it up
[02:22] <walrus__> Woo!
[02:22] <_Marcus> walrus__: Does Ubuntu support writing to NTFS?
[02:22] <meskarune> walrus__: check out the dd command. it might do what you want
[02:22] <jon23d> ben64: but I can't find the process that would...
[02:22] <CIDR> psusi: I have a hardware card, but it's 8 ports, and if I use four for raid10, I can't use the other 4 for anything, nor will they show up as jbod
[02:23] <_Marcus> walrus__: Oh, I know. First, you need to format the drive as FAT32.
[02:23] <psusi> Canadian1296, making a bootable windows usb is a windows question... and I don't think windows supports that anyhow
[02:23] <_Marcus> walrus__: Then you can copy paste the files for Windows 7 installer onto the drive.
[02:23] <walrus__> I've tried the dd command, it goes through the process and then i try to boot from it and it just boots from my hdd
[02:23] <walrus__> And I tried copying and pasting the files
[02:23] <psusi> CIDR, what card is this?
[02:23] <Ben64> putting windows onto a flash drive is not a ubuntu support issue
[02:23] <walrus__> I think formatted as NTFS though
[02:23] <Ben64> take it to ##windows
[02:24] <meskarune> walrus__: oh then I think you might just need to do something in your bios to boot the usb you made with dd
[02:24] <Canadian1296> psusi: I know what you're saying… walrus__, go ask if a bootable Windows usb is possible in #windows
[02:24] <CIDR> psusi: LSI SAS1068E
[02:24] <walrus__> It is possible, I've done it before, just not in any linux distro
[02:24] <psusi> CIDR, unless it's an expensive card, it's probably fakeraid, best to disable the bios raid stuff and just set up software raid
[02:24] <CIDR> It's not fake raid
[02:24] <walrus__> And I know how to boot from USB
[02:24] <Lunar_Lander> Canadian1296: found the reason. That dirtyharry9999 seems to be the husband of the person who made that other auction
[02:24] <CIDR> But anyway, I'm disabling the raid, because of reasons I stated above
[02:24] <meskarune> Canadian1296: he is asking how to make the usb from ubuntu, so its ontopic
[02:24] <Wargasm> bleh, there is a ##windows... how irritating
[02:24] <CIDR> And want to use software raid
[02:25] <Ben64> meskarune: thats not how it works
[02:25] <psusi> CIDR, then use the alternate installer and you can set up a software raid10
[02:25] <walrus__> Sorry to bother you then, I'll just wait till I can get access to a win7 machine
[02:25] <Canadian1296> meskarune: But we aren't sure if it's even possible to make a bootable windows install usb. The people in #windows would know.
[02:25] <CIDR> psusi good deal.
[02:25] <walrus__> I was just hoping to learn to do it from linux so there won't be any pain next time
[02:26] <meskarune> walrus__: dd should have worked. maybe re-read some tutorials :)
[02:26] <Lunar_Lander> _Marcus: may I ask a ontopic question?
[02:26] <psusi> walrus__, like I said, I don't think it's even possible
[02:26] <meskarune> it is possible
[02:26] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: Yes
[02:26] <meskarune> people install windows on netbooks with usb install media
[02:26] <psusi> the Ubuntu iso images are now hybrid so you can just dd them to a usb drive and boot them, but I don't think Microsoft has caught onto that yet
[02:27] <Lunar_Lander> _Marcus: I got 11.10, will it update to 12.04 automatically?
[02:27] <walrus__> Maybe not from xubuntu, but I have done it with command prompt and it worked, but not having access to a windows install at the moment I was hoping to do it from xubuntu
[02:27] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: I have no idea. I'm too new to Ubuntu to know if it updates major versions like that.
[02:27] <mun> hi
[02:27] <_Marcus> Lunar_Lander: My guess is: No
[02:27] <psusi> Lunar_Lamp, it will prompt you to upgrade when the time comes
[02:27] <Canadian1296> walrus__: I asked in #windows. Try this: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool
[02:27] <escott> Lunar_Lamp, it will automatically offer you the opportunity to do the update and suggest it, but you have to click yes
[02:27] <mun> does anyone know of a easy way to bind keyboard keys to a mouse button?
[02:27] <walrus__> I'm not making a bootable windows installation, just the installer itsself
[02:27] <Ben64> Lunar_Lander: it won't do it for you, but you can start the upgrade
[02:27] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[02:28] <walrus__> I can't use that tool, I don't have windows
[02:28] <walrus__> Just ubuntu
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> I remember from 10.10 when I booted in LIVE Mode, there was a window coming up "Do you want to Upgrade to 11.10?"
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> something like this will appear then?
[02:28] <Ben64> Lunar_Lander: yes
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[02:28] <Canadian1296> walrus__: You just have to burn an iso to a memory stcik. You can do that in ubuntu
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> is a version jump big?
[02:28] <psusi> Canadian1296, that only works if it is a hybrid iso
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> i.e. like a big download?
[02:29] <psusi> Lunar_Lander, yes
[02:29] <walrus__> Canadian1296: I just can't figure out how to do it
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> can you give me a ballpark number?
[02:29] <walrus__> Well
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> like the size of a CD or so?
[02:29] <psusi> Lunar_Lander, give or take, yea
[02:29] <hacker> hai all
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[02:29] <walrus__> Thanks for the help, I'll do it some other time :D
[02:29] <Lunar_Lander> managable :)
[02:31] <jonathon> walrus_ unetbootin?
[02:32] <jonathon> it is a tool to create a bootable usb from iso
[02:32] <meskarune> walrus__: http://gizmodo.com/5257386/how-to-install-windows-7-on-almost-any-netbook
[02:32] <meskarune> the instructions on there use dd to make the install media
[02:34] <gerson> ola
[02:36] <_Marcus> gerson: Hi
[02:36] <kingnebula> hello
[02:37] <_Marcus> kingnebula: Hi
[02:37] <blawiz> anyone use gmrun? how can one add a folder to the path?
[02:37] <kingnebula> How is ATI support under linux
[02:38] <kingnebula> I'm deciding between NVidia and AMD*
[02:38] <meskarune> kingnubula: I have had great luck with nvidia cards, but I heard that ati was releasing open source drivers, so idk
[02:39] <Yabden> historically I think many would agree that ATI support is not as good
[02:39] <escott> kingnebula, ati has some actual open source efforts, but you often hear people suggest that nvidia has better quality drivers
[02:40] <cJether> hello
[02:40] <Yabden> I am not sure how ATI stacks up right at this moment, but in terms of Linux drivers they have not been well received in the past
[02:40] <kingnebula> I've been doign some reading. And it seems that ATI/AMD used to be garbage.. but are making linux a priority I'm wondering if it is up to par with multi-monitor / 3D performance as the nvidia ones
[02:41] <meskarune> kingnebula: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=1
[02:41] <OerHeks> kingnebula, wait for 12.04, a lot improvement.
[02:42] <whumphrey> Is it normal to be prompted with three options in the grub when you launch Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again _Marcus, psusi and Ben64
[02:42] <OerHeks> whumphrey, yes
[02:42] <Lunar_Lander> I wish you a good night!
[02:43] <whumphrey> OerHeks, thanks
[02:43] <escott> whumphrey, you can disable it by modifying /etc/default/grub
[02:43] <OerHeks> whumphrey, would you hide the grubmenu ?
[02:44] <ssshvb> Hello guys i am trying to convert rpm to dep   and ive got this   $ for i in *.rpm; do sudo alien -cv $i; done
[02:44] <ssshvb> 	LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} 'adlmapps4-4.0.35-0.x86_64.rpm' sh: rpm: not found
[02:44] <ssshvb> Error executing "LANG=C rpm -qp --queryformat %{NAME} 'adlmapps4-4.0.35-0.x86_64.rpm'":  at /usr/share/perl5/Alien/Package.pm line 489.
[02:44] <whumphrey> OerHeks, I can't remember but I think that it was the default which was originally caught my attention
[02:44] <OerHeks> ssshvb, why convert rpm to deb, is there no source available ?
[02:44] <whumphrey> OerHeks, so I'm not sure how to answer that question
[02:44] <ssshvb> no
[02:45] <meskarune> ssshvb: why don't you install from source instead...?
[02:45] <ssshvb> what do you mean ?
[02:45] <meskarune> ssshvb: what program are you trying to isntall?
[02:45] <ssshvb> maya sp2
[02:46] <kingnebula> meskarune: I'm not reading all of that <_< lol
[02:47] <jonathon> Simple scan not recoginizing HP scanner after adding HP mfd. Removed HP printer, but Simple Scan does not pickup other scanner at first. Any help?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> kingnebula: ATI has better open source drivers (as they actively pay open source developers), Nvidia has better proprietary drivers.
[02:49] <meskarune> kingnebula: reading is how you learn! plus the article is really interesting. (I've read it)
[02:50] <kingnebula> Do you know which will have better webgl support?
[02:50] <kingnebula> meskarune: i agree :) but ssss.. drivers don't interest me :p
[02:50] <Jordan_U> kingnebula: I would expect it to be comparable, though that's just an educated guess.
[02:51] <escott> kingnebula, webgl=worst idea ever. another thing to consider is wayland if you plan to use the same machine in 2-3 years that might be a problem with nvidia. i have no idea what their upgrade path is
[02:51] <kingnebula> escott: :O why do you think its the worst idea ever?
[02:51] <kingnebula> Its the colest thing ever
[02:52] <Gskellig> what is the best way to view all the users/groups on an ubuntu server?
[02:52] <jonathon> Need some help with sane
[02:53] <escott> kingnebula, executing machine code downloaded from god knows where on your gpu... what could possibly go wrong :)
[02:53] <mun> hi
[02:53] <kingnebula> escott: <_< you don't download machine code, you use javascript
[02:53] <escott> Gskellig, /etc/groups
[02:53] <mun> does anyone here have a mouse with a tilt wheel? mine already has a back and forward button and i don't know what i should map tilt left and right to. any suggestions?
[02:53] <brimlar> kingnebula: just for something anecdotal, I went with ATI for this recent computer build (3 months ago), having always previously preferred nVidia...and it is a really nice experience.  updates are flawless, performance is great...ymmv
[02:54] <kingnebula> brimlar: hmm maybe i'll try an AMD card for a change
[02:55] <kingnebula> escott: I like playing games. And i like Linux. i think webgl is great because it will lower the barrier for people wanting to switch to linux. I know atleast 5 people who want to jump to the linux camp but aren't ready to giveup their games.
[02:55] <escott> kingnebula, the actual gl code gets run directly on the gpu. its supposed to be a restricted set, but its not interpreted in the way that javascript is.
[02:56] <const_antine> can anyone recommend a good general purpose audio/video recoder?
[02:56] <kingnebula> ffmpeg
[02:57] <const_antine> thank you
[02:57] <meskarune> const_antine: cheese
[02:57] <kingnebula> you are welcome
[02:57] <meskarune> cheese records audio and video from a webcam
[02:57] <OerHeks> mun: tilt right > webcam-photo tilt left: imagebin it
[02:57] <kingnebula> yah, ffmpeg is commandline.. I think it has a few front-end GUIs but haven't had luck with them
[02:58] <kingnebula> escott: I suppose you do have a valid point there
[02:58] <meskarune> http://projects.gnome.org/cheese/
[02:59] <OerHeks> cheese is standard installed
[02:59] <meskarune> a lot of games can be played in linux with wine, and you can get awesome linux games from the indie humble bundle
[03:00] <const_antine> ...cheese?
[03:00] <meskarune> cheese is in reference to people who say "cheese" to a camera
[03:01] <const_antine> recoder, not recorder
[03:01] <kingnebula> const_antine: yah for recoder  ffmpeg is your best friend
[03:01] <const_antine> my gf would add moustaches and silly hats to our photos on her phone
[03:02] <meskarune> hahaha. thats like a brain typo. lol
[03:03] <escott> kingnebula, its more concerning given the increasingly blurred distinctions between cpu/gpu.... anyone who suggested that we download machine code and execute it on the cpu would be labeled as insane, but somehow its ok with the gpu, nevermind that the next iterations of the gpu are going to have their own memory controllers
[03:04] <kingnebula> escott: I'm sure, and hope, that security mesures will be put in place as the platform evolves.
[03:04] <kingnebula> because i'm investing heavily in webgl :D
[03:06] <kingnebula> escott: has anyone found any exploits though? I mean firefox and chrome already have it enabled by default if your graphics drivers support it. If it is as big a security hole as you say, how come it hasn't been taken advantage of
[03:06] <kingnebula> and Opera is to have it in theri next release
[03:06] <bagels> I've been trying to uninstall/reinstall audacity, I changed a setting and even though I marked it for complete removal, rebooted, and reinstalled, my settings are still there.  Help?
[03:07] <glen> anybody here
[03:08] <bagels> glen as you can see from the user list, many are here.  Perhaps you meant is anyone awake/active/useful?
[03:08] <Wargasm> cheese has some great effects
[03:08] <Wargasm> loads of fun
[03:09] <glen> yes bangels...and i was having channel issues
[03:09] <bilbo_> is a segfault strictly a drive failure or could it be other componets?
[03:09] <glen> u busy bangles
[03:09] <kingnebula> bilbo_: anything can cause a segfault
[03:09] <bilbo_> how do i narrow it down?
[03:09] <kingnebula> including faulty software not just limited to drivers
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> hi, i just tryed to install ubuntu from an usb drive but the installations al ways fails because ubuntu doesn't found the cd rom drive  sr0 ? why is ubuntu trying to load the cd rom drive if the complete iso is on the stick?
[03:10] <kingnebula> bilbo_: it should say what caused the segfault
[03:10] <escott> kingnebula, CERT advises it be disabled. I've not heard or anyone using it as a vector at this point. The big problem in my mind is that any attempt to secure it is in direct contradiction to the purpose of having it. You have to strictly monitor the opengl calls and potentially emulate some of them to avoid executing dangerous code where the point of using opengl was to give more direct access to hardware.
[03:10] <leo-unglaub> i flashed with dd and the hybrid image and also tryed the usb creator
[03:10] <glen> i got rebuffed once by asking if i could ask a question and was told to simply ask, so....
[03:10] <bilbo_> ah reading.....  error 4 in python?
[03:11] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, use unetbootin, and check the iso first with md5sum
[03:11] <bilbo_> ok so i guess that is good at least it inst a drive
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i checked the iso and also tryed another oone from the xubuntu series
[03:11] <glen> my auspicious panel of intellectuals, i simply want to install updates and during the process it says that it can't finish installing
[03:11] <leo-unglaub> same problem
[03:12] <papna___> I'm on an Ubuntu 11.10 machine and my screen resolution settings are restricted to 800x600 and 1024x768, the latter of which is not displaying correctly (the desktop is too wide for the monitor). This used to work fine. Can anyone provide advice?
[03:12] <leo-unglaub> i also tryed mounting the iso manually from the rescue console
[03:12] <bilbo_> is there a log of program errors other than syslog?
[03:12] <leo-unglaub> but ubuntu is dounig an umount every time before reading
[03:13] <glen> ping timeout
[03:14] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, oke, odd solution! >> disabled the floppy controller from BIOS
[03:14] <bilbo_> is there a  t utility to identify which program is using  a package?
[03:14] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: disable or unplug?
[03:15] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, just disable it.
[03:15] <escott> bilbo_, lsof to list open filehandles
[03:15] <sx_usr__> hi guys, how can I configure my Ubuntu 11.10 to allow my USB connection to my android phone for tethering?/
[03:15] <sx_usr__> is it something called reverse tethering?
[03:15] <Archie> lol
[03:15] <glen> hey sx_usr
[03:15] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: okay, i will try that. yccording to google i am not the only one with this problem, do you think i should file a bug report? http://www.7loop.com/content/install-ubuntu-server-usb-without-cd
[03:15] <glen> i actually know something about thaty
[03:16] <glen> that*
[03:16] <glen> pdaNet
[03:16] <papna__> It looks like the bot's screen reolution help link is all back in the xorg.conf days and focused on Gnome.
[03:16] <sx_usr__> glen: can u provide more info?
[03:16] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, can't find a recent one, only ones from 2008/2009
[03:16] <glen> yes...first go to the market
[03:17] <glen> look up pdanet
[03:17] <glen> then it will give u a web site
[03:17] <sx_usr__> glen: www.pdanet.com?
[03:17] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, what hardware are you trying to install ?
[03:17] <glen> maybe...but use the android martket
[03:17] <sx_usr__> glen: ok
[03:17] <glen> it will give u download
[03:18] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: intel i7, 16gb ddr3 ram, ssd-raid0
[03:18] <sx_usr__> glen: cheers
[03:18] <glen> then it will direct u to a web site to install it on your machine
[03:18] <glen> wait...theres more
[03:18] <share> there is no /dev/lirc0 in Ubuntu Maverick - kernel 2.6.35-32
[03:18] <share> wtf
[03:18] <glen> i used pdanet
[03:18] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, should not have a floppy disc installed, awesome
[03:19] <glen> it starts out fine, and then after some time it will begin not allow u to access secure sites
[03:19] <glen> unless u purchase the full package
[03:19] <glen> however...it worked great
[03:19] <glen> i first jail broke my ipad
[03:20] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: moment, why floppy? is sr0 not the cd rom drive?
[03:20] <glen> then used pdanet to use for wireless hot spot
[03:20] <glen> worked even better
[03:20] <glen> u still sx
[03:20] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, the solution is only valid if there is a floppy drive installed, ofcourse
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: this pdanet is for windows?
[03:21] <leo-unglaub> i just disabled the cd rom drive
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: does it support Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:21] <leo-unglaub> but the eror still exists
[03:21] <glen> it does
[03:21] <glen> it supports ubuntu, win, and mac
[03:21] <sx_usr__> glen: cool! im downloading it now!
[03:22] <glen> however...if you root your droid there are several more apps that allow tethering and wireless tethering
[03:22] <sx_usr__> glen: my droid is rooted :P
[03:22] <glen> awesome
[03:22] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, i am not well known with xubuntu, but to start with raid0, i need ubuntu alternate cd to do so...
[03:22] <sx_usr__> gen: but basically i just need internet connection from my notebook to phone
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: i can do usb tethering from phone to notebook with no problem
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i an only using the alternate disc. and i just tryed the xubuntu to make sure it's not my normal ubuntu image
[03:23] <glen> so you are trying to do reverse tethering
[03:23] <glen> i did that via my opad
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: exactly!
[03:23] <glen> ipad
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> i had the raid running for the last year without any problems
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: cool! :D
[03:23] <leo-unglaub> i just wannted to reinstall and now i have this problems
[03:23] <sx_usr__> glen: simply love technology!
[03:24] <leo-unglaub> never had them before
[03:24] <glen> ate up my limited data plan
[03:24] <hmax> I broke my 11.10 install by enabling compiz cube.  Is there any way I can repair it?  BTW, why is compizconfig still in the repository if it has fatal bugs?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|cfhowlett
[03:24] <glen> absolutely
[03:24] <mangdood> In Ubuntu, web browsers don't let me access domains with hyphens at the beginning or end of them, but it works in Windows. Any idea how I can get it to work
[03:24] <glen> sx_user
[03:24] <leo-unglaub> maybe i should trying flashing the usb install drive on a different computer. maybe there is an error
[03:24] <glen> i have not ventured into rooting yet
[03:24] <sx_usr__> glen: :) u should root it...very interesting...
[03:24] <glen> it took a while for me to jailbreak
[03:24] <glen> what is the easiest way
[03:25] <OerHeks> leo-unglaub, i hope that would solve it. or boot it..
[03:25] <sx_usr__> glen: Im using Samsung Galaxy S2, so I use Odin :D
[03:25] <glen> i have a galaxy prevail
[03:25] <glen> i will look at youtube again
[03:25] <leo-unglaub> OerHeks: i have to find a nother pc here..that could take some time :) big thanks for your help!
[03:25] <urfr332g0> hmax, boot to another desktop or reboot and hit the reset for compiz, it is not fatal it is tricky lots of instructions on the net on how to do it.
[03:25] <glen> there are all sorts of tutorials
[03:25] <sx_usr__> glen: try www.androidflip.com on how to do that
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: i personally find androidflip site the most reliable for the tutorial
[03:26] <glen> sx_usr_: thanks
[03:26] <hmax> urfr332g0: what is the reset for compiz?
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: cuz i had mine done based on the tutorial from androidflip
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: no worries
[03:26] <urfr332g0> hmax, it is in compiz
[03:26] <dr--willis> hmax:  the webupd8 blog site has a posting on resetting compiz and unity
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: btw, im on XXKG6 2.3.4 Gingerbread
[03:26] <glen> i will try it
[03:26] <hmax> I can't access that.  Unity is broken.
[03:26] <sx_usr__> glen: with BLN kernel plugged-in
[03:26] <glen> ??
[03:26] <glen> no clue
[03:26] <hmax> urfr332g0: I can't access that.  Unity is broken.
[03:27] <klenwell> Hi. Basic question. Just got a new HP Pavilion g7-1310us laptop and want to install Ubuntu. Not finding much specific info on web. Comes w/ 64-bit Windows 7. Should I go with 11.10 64-bit?
[03:27] <sx_usr__> glen: hehe
[03:27] <dr--willis> hmax:  install a different wm or pc
[03:27] <urfr332g0> hmax, have you rebooted yet
[03:27] <jingcleovil> hi klenwell
[03:27] <glen> if you only knew
[03:27] <dr--willis> hmax: or a different usee
[03:27] <hmax> urfr332g0: I have rebooted
[03:27] <dr--willis> user
[03:27] <sx_usr__> glen: BLN = BackLight Notification
[03:27] <jingcleovil> @klenwell - what is your memory?
[03:28] <sx_usr__> glen: im currently on this until ICS 4.0.3 is super stable
[03:28] <hmax> dr--willis: I will try a different user
[03:28] <klenwell> @jingcleovil 6 GB
[03:28] <JBond> Hi
[03:28] <jingcleovil> go for 64gig
[03:28] <urfr332g0> hmax, install gnome 3 and you get the fallback and the gnome desktop, you can fix it from there.
[03:28] <jingcleovil> 64 bit
[03:28] <JBond> i am new here
[03:28] <jingcleovil> i mean
[03:28] <hmax> urfr332g0: thanks
[03:28] <urfr332g0> hmax, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:28] <JBond> need help
[03:28] <JBond> please
[03:28] <klenwell> @jingcleovil Thanks, I'll give it a go.
[03:29] <jingcleovil> k.
[03:29] <dr--willis> JBond: state the issue
[03:29] <JBond> Thx dr--willis
[03:29] <JBond> I just wanto to know how can I check the NODE
[03:30] <dr--willis> what node?
[03:30] <JBond> I installed Phone (dnet-progs), but I don't know how to check the NODE
[03:31] <JBond> phone dial format: NODE::USER
[03:32] <jingcleovil> Hi, how can i drag and drop window from 1 workspace pane to another?
[03:32] <sx_usr__> glen: i don't see the isntaller for pdanet for Ubuntu
[03:32] <sx_usr__> glen: where is this installer?
[03:32] <jingcleovil> is there any configuration.
[03:33] <thevaliantx> what are the latest distros coming out?  I'm getting kind of bored with ubuntu, pinguy os, debian.
[03:33] <xangua> jingcleovil: clic on the workplace icon, drag what you want
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | thevaliantx
[03:34] <jingcleovil> @xangua, I do it but its quite stacked and not moving.
[03:34] <SimonTam> I still have made no progress on my login screen thing
[03:35] <jingcleovil> @xanga my kernel release version is 3.0.0-16-generic
[03:35] <SimonTam> But I have found that it's the mouse that makes it die
[03:36] <SimonTam> Trouble is... The mouse is kinda necessary
[03:36] <bennylb> SimonTam: What version of ubuntu? And is it a fresh install?
[03:37] <SimonTam> 11.10 not fresh
[03:38] <bennylb> What was changed to make this happen?
[03:39] <JBond> Does anyone know how to check Ubuntu Phone NODE ?
[03:39] <SimonTam> Benny nothing afaik
[03:42] <ocraM> hello
[03:42] <JBond> Hi ocraM
[03:42] <Ariel88> Hi everyone
[03:42] <bennylb> If it hasn't been installed long for a long period I would think about setting your system up in such a way that you can do a fresh install whenever you need. This is often the most efficient way of getting things up and running again. It only take 5 minutes.
[03:43] <Ariel88> Oh sorry ; wrong place
[03:43] <ocraM> i need some help
[03:43] <JBond> yes ocraM
[03:43] <cola_ftw_> does freenode keep chat logs?
[03:43] <ensi> ok, whats going on, i have frensh install of 11.10, did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[03:43] <linuxjones> is there a way to log into remote desktop and then use the monitor mirror the remote desktop session?
[03:43] <ensi> now for example i cannot install apt-get build-essential
[03:43] <ensi> cause its bitching about c++
[03:43] <ensi> g++
[03:44] <ensi> and apt-get instlal g++ "the following packages have unmet depenceies: g++ depends: g++-4.6 (...) but it s not going to be installed"
[03:44] <ocraM> JBond?
[03:44] <ensi> wtf is this crap
[03:44] <JBond> yep ocraM
[03:44] <urfr332g0> ocraM, ask your question if you need help. :)
[03:44] <ocraM> do you know ssh?
[03:44] <ensi> "unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages", wth is that, i have broken packages in the past but dont have any more
[03:45] <ensi> woot'
[03:45] <bennylb> ensi: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:45] <somsip> !ask | ocraM
[03:45] <ensi> bennylb: triedalredy
[03:45] <bennylb> ensi: maybe reconfigure apt
[03:46] <ensi> sudo dpkg-configure apt
[03:46] <ensi> the problem still persists
[03:46] <ensi> this reminds me of the dayswith red hat 72.
[03:46] <ensi> it was same shit with broken packages and package managers
[03:46] <ensi> how far it linux hs come... hahah not very far
[03:47] <urfr332g0> !language > ensi
[03:47] <ocraM> how do you bypass a permissin denied thing in ssh
[03:47] <mangdood> ocraM, what are you trying to do
[03:47] <Stameni> Hello, i crated a program that saves dictionary data in binary file, on new start it loads that file and it worked fine. However, i mooved program and its data file in system path (/home/user/bin ) and when i start it from terminal it reports IOError and says thet there is no file called "data". How to fix this ?
[03:48] <ensi> iäm going to blow a fuse about now
[03:48] <ocraM> get into a computer that is in a lab its basically a quiz
[03:48] <mangdood> ocraM, you won't be able to if they locked you out until the quiz is over
[03:50] <ocraM> but like im logged in as root but im ssh in this guys computer. and the firewall is in there but i cant take it down
[03:51] <mangdood> ocraM, if you are in the computer, the firewall doesn't matter. If you are not on sshed into that computer, you can't take down the firewall
[03:52] <Tyrope> Hello #Ubuntu, I had the weirdest problem when running the liveCD earlier, left mouse button didn't work (cursor moved just fine), but when I ran qwebirc in firefox it worked fine, as long as firefox was maximized and i was clicking on the page.
[03:52] <ocraM> like its a lab lead by one man im trying to change a setting on all comps
[03:52] <urfr332g0> Tyrope, you md5sum check the iso or disc?
[03:52] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: I have indeed.
[03:52] <mangdood> ocraM, if you're only logged in as root on YOUR computer, you won't be able to do such a thing.
[03:52] <Tyrope> (disc)
[03:53] <urfr332g0> !ot | ocraM
[03:53] <JSeongTae76> Hello
[03:53] <ocraM> goign to darkmyst
[03:54] <cfhowlett> JSeongTae76   greetings
[03:54] <const_antine> why wont ffmpeg accept vob target?
[03:54] <JSeongTae76> When Ubuntu 12.04 will release
[03:54] <JSeongTae76> ?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> JSeongTae76   April  #ubuntu+1
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> cfhowlett, I ask day
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> Day, Month (April)
[03:55] <const_antine> stupid time
[03:55] <const_antine> bye
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !precise|Jseongtae76 04/26/2012 IIRC
[03:55] <JSeongTae76> ubottu, Thanks
[03:57] <ocraM> who are you obottu
[03:57] <ensi> using linux is detrimental toyour health and your environment
[03:58] <mangdood> ensi, sad, but true
[03:58] <baoyu_yang> hello
[03:59] <ocraM> oubottu: who are you
[03:59] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   nihao
[03:59] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: any other suggestions, other than the md5?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !ubottu>ocraM
[03:59] <baoyu_yang> I'm new here
[04:00] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   Welcome.  This is the ubuntu support channel.  If you need help, state the problem and ask.
[04:01] <urfr332g0> Tyrope, not really you might check your computer model and ubuntu in general, the problem is not static really.
[04:01] <pmp6nl> Hello, does anyone know of a way to convert xml to odf, rtf, or html?  Thanks
[04:02] <Tyrope> urfr332g0: I'll just hope it works normally at school in a few hours then. not planning on running ubuntu on this machine anymore anyway. Thanks!
[04:03] <ocraM> mangdood: u still connected?
[04:04] <somsip> pmp6nl: ISTR openoffice used to have a command line option for some conversions. Not sure if libreoffice has it too
[04:05] <cfhowlett> pmp6nl   software center search for "xml convert" yields numerous hits...
[04:06] <x-jd-x> I am having some trouble understanding why /bin/login requires root "sudo" permissions?
[04:07] <x-jd-x> any ideas?
[04:07] <ocraM> mangdood
[04:07] <bazhang> ocraM, do you have an ubuntu support issue
[04:08] <ocraM> im trying to reach someone and yes i do
[04:08] <bazhang> ocraM, then ask the channel
[04:08] <ocraM> bazhang: id yourself
[04:08] <DejahThoris> x-jd-x; because it needs to create processes not belonging to it?
[04:09] <pmp6nl> somsip: thanks Ill look.  cfhowlett I was looking at a few of those, one keeps freezing and the other wont convert it to another format, trying a 3rd option
[04:09] <cfhowlett> pmp6nl   have fun/good luck
[04:09] <baoyu_yang> why some text can't be displayed in this window
[04:10] <x-jd-x> not belonging to the oringal shell?
[04:10] <DejahThoris> x-jd-xl /bin/login has to create a process not belonging to it, but to a user
[04:10] <cfhowlett> baoyu_yang   special characters don't show well.  Basic english words work best.
[04:13] <bascotie> QUESTION: Hi guys, I installed Server 2008 on a second hard drive on the machine that had Ubuntu 11.10. How can I add Ubuntu to the Windows bootloader, or Grub I suppose.
[04:14] <urfr332g0> bascotie, in 11.10 sudo update-grub
[04:14] <Yabden> bascotie you could boot to a linux cd, mount your ubuntu system, and set up grub again to include windows
[04:14] <Yabden> or do that
[04:14] <bascotie> urfr332g0: I can't get into Ubuntu, it goes straight to Windows Server
[04:14] <bascotie> Yabden: I'm a big newb to linux terminal, do you know a good write up for this?
[04:14] <x-jd-x> bascotie; I know that if you install lilo as the boot loader then back up the mbr dd if=/dev/disk of=lilo.mbr you can configure bcdedit to boot ubuntu. Or just use grub as you said.
[04:14] <DejahThoris> bascotie; sounds like you need to change the boot drive in the bios
[04:14] <urfr332g0> bascotie, you have ubuntu at all you sya you had ubuntu
[04:15] <urfr332g0> said
[04:15] <ensi> ok, this 11.10 is the last ubuntu for me,t he quality has dropped dramatically
[04:15] <ensi> :/
[04:15] <ensi> i'm going for archlinux
[04:15] <Yabden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:15] <ensi> thanks for all the hard work, close but no cigar
[04:16] <trailblazerz11> Hi. My grub bootloader isnt working after installing ubuntu
[04:16] <arcfide> Hey all.
[04:16] <bascotie> urfr332g0: I do have Ubuntu, i guess ill try to manually boot to that drive and install grub, do you know an article that could help me add windows?
[04:16] <cfhowlett> arcfide   greetings
[04:16] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, this the only OS?
[04:16] <bascotie> Nevermind, I'll search for adding windows to grub2 and let you know
[04:16] <arcfide> I have some software that I am developing, and it uses MetaPost from TeX Live.  I sent it out for testing and two people with Ubuntu machines reported issues with getting the meta post working.
[04:17] <mangdood> trailblazerz11, you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:17] <urfr332g0> ! grub | bascotie
[04:17] <ocraM> someone is hacking me... _._
[04:17] <arcfide> I do not have an Ubuntu system with me, so I am hoping that someone here can tell me what the problem is with the MetaPost, as they both have the exact same errors.
[04:17] <bazhang> ocraM, please stay on topic
[04:17] <DejahThoris> bascotie; since it's on separate hdds, you can probably use your system bios as a boot menu
[04:17] <urfr332g0> bascotie, reload grub with a live cd then when in ubuntu run sudo update-grub
[04:17] <arcfide> I did not have these problem with my main distribution, you can see the error here:
[04:17] <ocraM> thats my problem
[04:17] <arcfide> https://gist.github.com/1850446
[04:17] <lwizardl> when making a directory output list (dir > list.txt) is there a way to keep it from using \ to escape the spaces in the output ? I'm wanting to have this dsc 0001.jpg instead of dsc\ 0001.jpg
[04:18] <arcfide> Doing a search lead me to a few things that didn't get me a solution.
[04:18] <bascotie> urfr332g0: i'll try that article, thank you
[04:18] <bascotie> and thanks to everyone else DejahThoris
[04:18] <arcfide> Does anyone know about Tex Live on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <bascotie> DejahThoris: i can, but i'd like to try the grub for fun :)
[04:18] <mangdood> arcfide, very little, can I help?
[04:19] <arcfide> mangdood: See the above, my problem is with mpost on Ubuntu systems 10.x and 11.x.
[04:20] <ocraM> my disc tray just ejected i didnt do it
[04:20] <DejahThoris> we control your computer ...
[04:20] <x-jd-x> DajahThoris; the problem that I am trying to over come is forcing a secondary login on ssh. I came across idea to use /bin/login as a ForceCommand for a user in sshd_config but there were not specific details so I working out myself. I first configure login as my force command and the session closes because login: Cannot possibly work without effective root. So I add the user to sudoers with permissions to run /bin/login but then bec
[04:20] <x-jd-x> n my shell also tries to run under sudo which I did not allow nor do I want it to
[04:21] <ocraM> did you try su?
[04:22] <ocraM> x-jd-x:did you try su [user]?
[04:23] <Ben64> x-jd-x: what are you trying to do
[04:23] <x-jd-x> as my ForceCommand? No I will have to see if sshd_config allow for a %u or something to substiude the user automatically.
[04:23] <ocraM> x-jd-x: like do you want to like appear as a different user?
[04:25] <ocraM> who keeps us on task
[04:25] <bazhang> !ot | ocraM
[04:25] <ocraM> ?
[04:25] <x-jd-x> I am trying to create a two factor authentication for ssh. I do not consider a key password to be a second factor. So I use a key for ssh authentication and then I force something like exec /bin/login to go through the normal login process. allowing me to then type my username and password and still use the system password and policies defined for the user.
[04:26] <ocraM> google it :)
[04:26] <trailblazerz11> I used boot repair it sayed sucessful but still no grub
[04:26] <bazhang> ocraM, never suggest that here.
[04:26] <ocraM> bazhang: Who are you
[04:26] <bazhang> !google > ocraM
[04:26] <Ben64> x-jd-x: thats not what the second auth is for
[04:27] <bazhang> ocraM, this is not the chat channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[04:27] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, does that boot repair generate a results.txt?
[04:27] <ocraM> i cant find off topic
[04:27] <x-jd-x> Ben64; are you saying that is not what /bin/login is for?
[04:28] <Ben64> x-jd-x: it won't work how you want it to, and its not very secure like that either
[04:28] <ocraM> bazhang: please identify yourself
[04:29] <x-jd-x> Ben64; how could it be an less secure then just a key? I am using my key and providing the user password. Where does the less secure start?
[04:30] <Ben64> x-jd-x: https://calomel.org/openssh.html check out the ssh_gatekeeper section
[04:30] <x-jd-x> is it /bin/login is not a secure method to login because that is the normal login process is it not?
[04:30] <x-jd-x> will do
[04:30] <klenwell> Trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit on my new HP Pavilion g7-1310us. Booted from CD, saw purple screen briefly. Now screen is black. DVD is running, but screen's been black for a couple minutes. Is this normal?
[04:31] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, run this script and pastebin the results.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <cfhowlett> klenwell   no it's not.  Are you still booting from the DVD?
[04:31] <klenwell> Yes.
[04:31] <klenwell> I ran wubi and that seemed to run ok.
[04:31] <urfr332g0> !nomodeset | klenwell
[04:31] <cfhowlett> klenwell   the problem is on the wubi or on the DVD boot?
[04:32] <klenwell> Ok. Yes. I see the install screen but very very faintly.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> klenwell   see text / safe graphics mode options or run the text installer
[04:32] <bazhangg> SMD
[04:32] <cfhowlett> bazhang  ?SMD?
[04:32] <urfr332g0> klenwell, check the b ots message as well.
[04:34] <klenwell> cfhowlett ok. will follow directions on link. Should I just hard reboot?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> klenwell   yes.
[04:34] <urfr332g0> reisub
[04:35] <urfr332g0> ;-)
[04:35] <Zillow> question: anyway to position windows quick with key commands like in win7?
[04:35] <trailblazerz11> Here is my results from boot-repair paste.ubuntu/845360/
[04:36] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, can you give the whole url
[04:37] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, got it hold on
[04:37] <trailblazerz11> Ok thank you
[04:38] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, I am not efi competent
[04:39] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you have efi partitioning
[04:39] <klenwell> cfhowlett just to clarify... I'm on the purple boot screen shown on the link. I hit F6. Do I just want to hit nomodeset so it's x'd out?
[04:39] <Zillow> alright I'm using 10.04, and I know about holding shift while draggain a window around but I'm looking for actions like that on win xp and win7 with how you can hold the orb key and press arrows
[04:39] <cfhowlett> klenwell wait 1
[04:40] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you want to choose nomodeset
[04:40] <urfr332g0> then boot
[04:41] <klenwell> cfhowlett directions are kinda ambiguous on that webpage... so I choose it and a little x appears next to it. That's what I want?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> klenwell   see urfr332g0's msg ...
[04:41] <jfenwick> I'm having some problems with networking on ubuntu server. I changed my eth0 to be a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, then I restarted with /etc/init.d/networking restart, then I changed it back to dhcp and restarted again, but now it won't switch back to dhcp
[04:42] <jfenwick> no matter how many times I try to restart it
[04:42] <klenwell> cfhowlett urfr332g0 so I click nomodeset, x shows up next to it. Do I want to then choose Install Ubuntu from screen menu?
[04:43] <cfhowlett> klenwell   that's correct
[04:43] <klenwell> cfhowlett Thanks. Going to give it a try here.
[04:43] <urfr332g0> klenwell, boot to the desktop and seee if it runs
[04:44] <jfenwick> ah, maybe I need dhclient
[04:44] <orated> Hi. Soon after login, I see a java process running in background. I don't have any startup script to start anything related to java nor do I see it in services. Is there any command to find what all packages related to java are installed?
[04:45] <su22> How to increase the boot speed of Ubuntu?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> su22   what is the current boot time?
[04:46] <su22> about a minute
[04:46] <Nach0z> su22: disable stuff. a lot of stuff. EVERYTHING.
[04:46] <reacktor> mins
[04:46] <cfhowlett> su22   a whole minute? and you want what?
[04:46] <Nach0z> seriously though, the only way to increase the boot speed is to get better hardware, or remove as much add-on unnecessary stuff from the startup sequence as possible.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> su22   disable all startup apps that you don't need...
[04:47] <mangdood> orated, you can try ps axjf
[04:47] <Ben64> get a SSD as a boot drive
[04:47] <su22> ok
[04:47] <Nach0z> ^^SSD for your OS is a real good way to do it
[04:47] <su22> Hey the DVD-ROM drive is not getting detected in my Ubuntu
[04:47] <satyanash> SSD are costly.
[04:48] <satyanash> Rs. 5000 for 40GB intel SSD
[04:48] <Nach0z> satyanash: what currency is that o_0
[04:48] <satyanash> Rupees.
[04:48] <pnorman> is that 40GB SLC or MCL?
[04:48] <Nach0z> ah. I have NO idea what the conversion rate for that is.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> satyanash   prices are dropping...
[04:48] <Nach0z> su22: um, check /dev/sr0, that's usually where I see DVD stuff.
[04:49] <satyanash> Rs. ~48 =  1$
[04:49] <cfhowlett> satyanash   prices are dropping SLOWLY
[04:50] <su22> /dev/sr0 exists
[04:50] <orated> Hey cfhowlett Even I get boot time of about 60s. But I'm not sure what specifically to disable, can you help me fix it? - http://imagebin.org/199031 http://imagebin.org/199035
[04:50] <trailblazerz11> Is there any other way to recover grub bootloader. Boot-repair not working
[04:51] <Ben64> !fixgrub | trailblazerz11
[04:51] <su22> trailblazer11: Hey have Super GRUB2 disk
[04:51] <satyanash> So it's roughly equal to USD100 for 40GB Intel SSD
[04:52] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you have a efi you want to mention that
[04:52] <mangdood> orated, how did you get that image? I want to test my boot time too
[04:52] <cfhowlett> orated   Go through System>Preferences>Startup Applications and disable everything that you don't need on boot.  In my case, as I have no bluetooth, I killed that.  Apps can be invoked as you need them, so you'll be waiting post-boot...
[04:53] <su22> hey I have all startup apps disabled
[04:53] <orated> mangdood: Install bootchart and find png from /var/log/bootchart after each boot
[04:53] <su22> But........boot time as usual
[04:53] <Ben64> its all about disk speed, get a faster one to decrease boot time
[04:54] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, here is a wiki on grub2 and efi.
[04:54] <urfr332g0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[04:54] <urfr332g0> read carefully
[04:54] <orated> cfhowlett: Yes, I did that.  Is there something like readahead to reduce boot time ?
[04:55] <x-jd-x> Ben64; still around?
[04:55] <Ben64> x-jd-x: on and off
[04:55] <bloopletech> I've just had my laptop repaired, and while it was away I attempted to use the hard drive in a machine with different hardware. After popping my drive back in, I've been having issues with lightdm etc. I've reinstalled the greeter, unity, lightdm, and ubuntu-desktop, but the window decorations aren't quite right - I tried unticking/ticking window decoration in ccsm and that fixed my top panel icons, but not my window titlebars
[04:55] <su22> Hey /dev/sr0 exists but when I insert a CD or a DVD it is not getting detected at all..In windows 7 it gets detected
[04:56] <bobo37774> su22: Trying to decrease boot time?
[04:56] <su22> How to fix it
[04:56] <su22> yes bobo37774
[04:56] <bloopletech> This is in oneiric
[04:56] <bobo37774> try "e4rat" instead of ureadahead
[04:57] <Ben64> su22: insert a cd or dvd, and do "dmesg | tail -n 25" in a terminal, and pastebin the result
[04:57] <Zillow> where is ppa sources located and can I edit it?
[04:57] <bobo37774> su22: try "e4rat" instead of ureadahead. It increased my boot time a lot. If that is not enough try a light window manager
[04:58] <su22> Well I tried XFCE, LXDE and Enlightenment bobo37774..k..I'll try e4rat
[04:58] <mangdood> orated, KDE takes a large part of your boot time. your filesystem seems to be checked too much as well
[04:58] <trailblazerz11> If i use supergrub2 is it easy to fix bootloader once in os?
[04:58] <bloopletech> Zillow: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources/list.d/
[04:59] <almoxarife> su22: why fixate on bootup?
[04:59] <bloopletech> You can edit it if you know what you're doing
[04:59] <trailblazerz11> I dont know what i am doing lol
[04:59] <Zillow> thanks!
[04:59] <bobo37774> su22: make sure you read the documentation thoroughly
[04:59] <su22> well you can boot into your old system trailblazer11
[05:00] <su22> Afterwards fix as usual
[05:00] <su22> Or another easy method is to purge and re-install GRUB at once trailblazer11
[05:00] <kraz3d> Acer Aspire laptop w/ Kubuntu 11.10 -- My battery monitor isn't working. For instance right now it shows it's plugged in with 77% but I just unplugged it after charging it for hours it should be at 100.
[05:00] <kraz3d> How can I update it or fix it?
[05:00] <x-jd-x> Ben64; the site was down but with a little digging I found the script. Basically a slick way of requiring additional information but not a user password really. Cool script I book marked it. I am however determined to see my challenge through if possible. do you see a security flaw in using a key + ForceCommand exec su $USER. exec makes it so that the command cannot be escaped back to the oringal shell and if login fails the connecti
[05:00] <bloopletech> wierd, the max min close buttons are staying over on the right end of the title bar
[05:01] <orated> mangdood: Yes. I don't get the fsck part as to why its doing that. As far as I see even nfs and ntfs mounts as per fstab are taking time which I disabled. What process of KDE do you find taking time?
[05:01] <trailblazerz11> Mind explaing su22 i r nub
[05:01] <x-jd-x> Ben64; It also allows password polices to take effect in the login process. Unless I am missing something that would seem pretty secure.
[05:01] <urfr332g0> trailblazerz11, you might go to the ubuntu forums and start a thread and pot the bootscript, your set up if you don't identify iy to the channel will not get fixed correctly.
[05:01] <urfr332g0> post*
[05:01] <Ben64> x-jd-x: it is basically the same type of authentication twice, pretty redundant
[05:02] <su22> Hey is there any cool Ubuntu app to get Facebook updates?? [Not Gwibber]
[05:02] <mangdood> orated, KDE for the login screen and for starting your kde session takes a butt load of time
[05:02] <x-jd-x> Ben64; once with a key and once with a password. Something you have and something you know.
[05:02] <almoxarife> su22: what is a 'facebook update'?
[05:03] <su22> oh sorry almoxarife....It is not Update..It is 'Notification'!!
[05:03] <su22> Facebook notifications
[05:03] <almoxarife> mangdood: i dont see that issue
[05:04] <orated> mangdood: Agreed. Time till KDM is ~40s which is also. Its not KDE alone
[05:04] <bobo37774> su22: What about empathy? I am pretty sure that works with facebook
[05:04] <orated> ..also more than normal*
[05:04] <su22> Ben64 "dmesg | tail -n 25" I executed..But it is not working...
[05:04] <su22> bobo37774...It is just for chatting
[05:04] <x-jd-x> Ben64; both have to pass or the connection does not succeed. and you just configure ssh to only allow key authentication then su will get the password part. I don't know.
[05:05] <baoyu_yang> when i install software, the status always is Applying changes
[05:05] <bobo37774> su22: Oh I see what you're saying
[05:05] <Ben64> su22: try just "dmesg" then
[05:05] <bloopletech> x-jd-x: what are you trying to do?
[05:06] <su22> Ben64: NOT WORKING...:(
[05:06] <Ben64> su22: you must not be typing it correctly then
[05:06] <brerrabbit> Ok...i know Im totally about to get chased out of here for asking this...but where could someone go to learn about centos for an ubuntu user?
[05:06] <mangdood> orated, It seems to me that mounting and checking your disks takes 20 seconds, some random processes that I don't know take about 10 seconds and KDM takes the rest of the time...
[05:06] <bazhang> brerrabbit, in what context
[05:06] <brerrabbit> server
[05:06] <bloopletech> brerrabbit: probably the centos website, I think they have a wiki, maybe there's a #centos?
[05:07] <Bobenhaus> question: is it possible to add the PearOS UI to Ubuntu?
[05:07] <x-jd-x> su22; try cat /var/log/dmesg | tail -n 25
[05:07] <bazhang> #centos brerrabbit
[05:07] <brerrabbit> i thought it would be similar...but EVERYTHING is different
[05:07] <Ben64> brerrabbit: except for packages, it is very similar
[05:07] <brerrabbit> #bazhang...i tried #centos
[05:07] <somsip> su22: tail -n 25 -f /var/log/syslog
[05:08] <brerrabbit> Ben64....there are odd things...no sudo, cant touch file.txt
[05:08] <brerrabbit> etc
[05:08] <brerrabbit> can't save a file from pico etc
[05:08] <Ben64> brerrabbit: touch works fine in centos
[05:08] <cfhowlett> brerrabbit   we learn by doing...
[05:08] <su22> somsip..What is that?
[05:08] <brerrabbit> yes we do cfhowlett...
[05:09] <bazhang> Bobenhaus, the mac os looking one?
[05:09] <somsip> su22: you seem to be receiving differing advice on how to tail dmesg.
[05:09] <bazhang> brerrabbit, check their wiki then. centos is offtopic here
[05:10] <su22> yeah..Bit confusing...I'm not technically sound
[05:10] <brerrabbit> yeah...i wasnt trying to initiate a discussion here, more like a "go here"
[05:10] <brerrabbit> i know better...
[05:10] <bazhang> you could try alis
[05:10] <brerrabbit> thanks anyway
[05:10] <Ben64> brerrabbit: you should just use ubuntu server :)
[05:10] <bazhang> !alis
[05:10] <orated> mangdood: Yes, thanks. I'll try to fix that
[05:10] <almoxarife> brerrabbit: go 'not-here'
[05:11] <brerrabbit> Ben64: believe me I wanted to, but I also wanted Cpanel.  which apparently is incompatible
[05:11] <mangdood> orated, almoxarife might know better, I'm just a noob >_>
[05:11] <cfhowlett> brerrabbit   SFAIK no one has written centos>>>ubuntu guide
[05:11] <brerrabbit> ok
[05:11] <brerrabbit> worth a try
[05:11] <Ben64> ew, cpanel
[05:11] <goku1> noob
[05:11] <brerrabbit> ha...eww editing bind9 files by hand
[05:11] <goku1> lol
[05:11] <bazhang> goku1, please dont use that here
[05:11] <Ben64> !info webmin
[05:12] <Ben64> oh.
[05:12] <orated> mangdood: Beginner in bootchart here too
[05:12] <bazhang> !ebox
[05:12] <Ben64> bazhang: thanks
[05:13] <kraz3d> How can I install the gnome batterystatus app in KDE and get rid of KDE's default one?
[05:13] <almoxarife> i prefer the gui version of 'tail' its called 'log-viewer'
[05:14] <mangdood> almoxarife, LOL
[05:14] <kraz3d> I installed the ppa repository's and everything, but how do I run the application?
[05:14] <almoxarife> kraz3d: what ppa?
[05:15] <ludwin01> kraz 3d why dont you change your desktop to gnome?
[05:15] <kraz3d> I don't want to
[05:15] <kraz3d> I prefer KDE
[05:15] <bobo37774> kraz3d: gnome apps go on gnome-panel are you using gnome panel?
[05:15] <kraz3d> however, I'm having problems with the battery monitor
[05:15] <kraz3d> ah
[05:15] <kraz3d> no
[05:15] <kraz3d> fuck
[05:15] <FloodBot1> kraz3d: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <ludwin01> gnome apps are just for gnome enviroment...
[05:15] <bobo37774> kraz3d: That may be your problem then
[05:15] <almoxarife> kraz3d: i dont know how installing a gnome applet is going to solve your 'batt' issues
[05:16] <Ben64> ludwin01: thats not entirely true. gedit works fine in kde, k3b works fine in gnome
[05:16] <ludwin01> use one designed in kde.
[05:16] <almoxarife> ludwin01: not true, gnome apps work fine in kubuntu
[05:17] <kraz3d> okay, in the case.. what is another battery monitor I can use? does anyone know
[05:17] <ludwin01> kde vrs gnome epic battle
[05:17] <mangdood> kraz3d, it's likely not an issue with KDE's battery monitor
[05:17] <bobo37774> ludwin01: vs openbox
[05:17] <cfhowlett> no religious wars plz
[05:17] <bobo37774> hahaha
[05:17] <ludwin01> hahahaha
[05:17] <bazhang> bobo37774, ludwin01 not here
[05:17] <ludwin01> vrs xfce
[05:18] <klenwell> Hi. I'm back. I successfully installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my new HP g7-1310us but on reboot the dark screen issue is back. I'm looking at this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132...
[05:18] <bobo37774> okay
[05:18] <cfhowlett> kraz3d   see "screenlets" lots of monitors and can easily config for KDE
[05:18] <klenwell> Do I need to do the temp boot options then the permanent boot options?
[05:18] <mangdood> kraz3d, more like the system can't detect your battery; my laptop can't either
[05:18] <ludwin01> yeah screenlets..daemon
[05:18] <klenwell> I'm logged in now, but can't see a thing. :)
[05:19] <kraz3d> well, I know my laptop uses optimus technology and I haven't installed bumblebee yet, mangdood.. that may be it
[05:19] <mangdood> klenwell, mind telling the problem again
[05:19] <cfhowlett> kraz3d  if you're running a "replacement" battery that's NOT eom, expect detection problems
[05:19] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you figure out how to put nomodeset in the kernel to get in update and upgrade and check additional drivers for any needed.
[05:19] <cfhowlett> *oem*
[05:19] <kraz3d> cfhowlett: nope, oem battery.
[05:19] <klenwell> mangdood it's this nomodeset issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[05:20] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Is that a question?
[05:20] <mangdood> klenwell, so did you use the nomodeset option?
[05:20] <klenwell> mangdood Yes, for install. But looks like I need to set it again.
[05:21] <urfr332g0> klenwell, yes have you figured out the adding nomodeset to te kernel to boot in?
[05:21] <urfr332g0> the*
[05:22] <bascotie> Boot Repair disk takes forever to scan for systems
[05:22] <bascotie> It's been like 15 minutes lol
[05:22] <mangdood> klenwell, you'll need to boot up with nomodeset and change some of your grub files, ESPECIALLY the scripts used to generate the grub entries
[05:22] <mangdood> klenwell, you'll have to look that up though
[05:23] <urfr332g0> mangdood, not necessarily true.
[05:23] <klenwell> ufr332g0 Yes, for install. Based on the web page. Now that it's installed, I'm trying to figure out how to proceed. Do I need to follow the temp install directions on this page before the permanent? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[05:23] <urfr332g0> klenwell, YES
[05:23] <mangdood> urfr332g0, oh?
[05:23] <ludwin01> what kind of lcd gives taht trouble...?
[05:23] <ludwin01> *that*
[05:23] <urfr332g0> mangdood, it may just need a driver
[05:24] <kraz3d> See, that shitty stock battery widget did suck. 'Battery Monitor' is actually working correctly
[05:24] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Ok. So I don't have any experience fiddling with grub files. How do I get at them? Is that an option on boot up?
[05:25] <mangdood> urfr332g0, oops :D
[05:25] <mangdood> good luck everyone with their rather unfortunate tech problems :P, good night
[05:25] <urfr332g0> klenwell, it syas how on theat web page from the grub menu, do that get in update the OS and check additional drivers to see if there is one waiting.
[05:25] <urfr332g0> says*
[05:26] <ludwin01> @kraz3d   battery status ok?
[05:26] <urfr332g0> klenwell, a change at then grub menu is not permanent, I doubt you will need to change any grub kernel notations permanently.
[05:27] <kraz3d> ludwin01: Yes, thankyouj.
[05:27] <klenwell> urfr332g0 ok, thanks. Will give it a go.
[05:27] <urfr332g0> klenwell, cool your probably just missing a driver like for a nvidia graphics card.
[05:28] <ludwin01> klenwell just for curiosity..what is the brand of that laptop?
[05:29] <rectec> Hi. I tried asking this on #ubuntu-unity , but nobody's answering. So I'll ask you fine folks.
[05:29] <rectec> I'm not very clear on HUD's development. Will the code be merged with Unity? If so, does anybody know when?
[05:30] <bazhang> !hud | rectec read this yet?
[05:30] <Flannel> rectec: This is a tech support channel, you may try #ubuntu-devel
[05:31] <rectec> Flannel, yes, my bad. #ubuntu was all I could think of.
[05:31] <Flannel> rectec: no worries.
[05:31] <rectec> bazhang, thank you and ubottu, i'm trying that link
[05:32] <Jimu> the top bar in the default Unity... is that a Gnome Panel or Unity?
[05:32] <rectec> Jimu, it's part of Unity, I believe.
[05:32] <klenwell> ludwin01 HP Pavilion g7-1310us -- I'm taking notes. Plan to add a page to AskUbuntu once I've got everything sorted out.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> Jimu   unity
[05:33] <rectec> bazhang, yeah as I expected. So this will land with the release of Precise?
[05:33] <log> rectec: Yes.
[05:34] <rectec> k
[05:34] <bambanx> how i can full uninstall ruby and rvm in my ubuntu?
[05:35] <log> bambanx: sudo apt-get remove ruby rvm
[05:35] <bambanx> ubuntu say cannot find the file
[05:36] <log> bambanx: actually, it should be:
[05:36] <bambanx> the package *
[05:36] <log> bambanx: sudo apt-get remove ruby ruby-rvm
[05:37] <urfr332g0> klenwell, I believe this is the card you have and a ask ubuntu link, bumblebee as you suggested may be part of what you need. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95459/ati-6470m-intel-hd-graphics-3000-drivers
[05:37] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I'm coming from 8.10 so this new layout is a little foreign to me. I hit the system settings icon and clicked Additional Drivers but it didn't come up with anything related to graphics. Am I doing this right?
[05:37] <bambanx> log, when i type now ruby -v its continue showing me the version
[05:37] <bambanx> :/
[05:37] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Ignore last question, just saw this.
[05:37] <urfr332g0> klenwell, check if your card is the one listed in the ask ubuntu.
[05:37] <log> bambanx: Odd.
[05:37] <urfr332g0> cool
[05:38] <bambanx> log i do the same using purge but dont work
[05:38] <ludwin01> hp pavilion? g series came with intel hd graphics...not sure if need extra drivers...
[05:38] <ludwin01> @bambanx check with synaptic too
[05:39] <bambanx> ludwin01, i dont where the hell is synaptic in my buntu 11.10
[05:39] <bambanx> i am installing synaptic now
[05:39] <urfr332g0> klenwell, this command may identify the graphics not sure with a hybrid. lspci | grep VGA
[05:39] <bambanx> what u think about 11.10 version guys?
[05:40] <bambanx> looks like a mac clone
[05:40] <log> !ot | bambanx
[05:40] <urfr332g0> bambanx, you need support we don't do poles
[05:40] <bambanx> ?
[05:40] <rectec> uh one last question about HUD. I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel
[05:40] <bambanx> ok
[05:40] <bambanx> sorry
[05:41] <kroonrs> hi - my icons for a number of launchers as well as when I alt-tab have disappeared since I resumed from suspend.  There are also icons missing when I alt-tab, and my terminal text is all-faded (terminal is one of the icons missing, along with "show desktop" on alt-tab, and "System settings" and "Home folder" on the launcher).  Oneiric with Unity.
[05:41] <ludwin01> @bambanx well... systems settings
[05:41] <skegeek> Is it safe to upgrade directly from Lucid Lynx to Precise Pangolin?
[05:41] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I think that's the card.  If I extract a rar file i cant find the files in the extracted folder
[05:44] <klenwell> urfr332g0 lspci says VGA compatible controller: Interl Corporation, etc. HP site says "BrightView LED-backlit display with the Intel HD 3000 graphics" So sounds like same.
[05:44] <urfr332g0> klenwell, cool that is about my limit of knowledge lol point at look here. :)
[05:44] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: No, that would kind of defeat the whole point of suspending and resuming vs shutting down.  But I guess it would help to find out if this is permanent *sigh*
[05:45] <Ben64> arunkumar413: if you have a question go ahead and ask it, this is not a channel for rants
[05:45] <ludwin01> @bambanx just do a recon in unity interface you might found synaptic..check installed pkgs and dependencies attached to that program bugging u
[05:45] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, yes but a actual cause and effect is helpful.
[05:46] <bambanx> thanks ludwin01
[05:46] <bambanx> i fixed
[05:46] <CIDR> Can I use a SAS drive on a sata controller?
[05:46] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413... use unrar pkg nonfree version the file manager will do the task automatic man
[05:46] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Someone writes on AskUbuntu: "only solution that i found was to disable the intel card on bios to use the ATI on ubuntu" Any advice on whether I should do that or just follow the directions for perm modifying kernel boot options?
[05:47] <ludwin01> @klenwel dont mix drivers...
[05:47] <urfr332g0> klenwell, there is a link as well personally I don't know, you might check the ubuntu forums maybe start a thread there as well.
[05:48] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: its already installed.
[05:48] <MaineCoon_> Folks can someone receive an SMS message for me plz rq? I dont have a mobile but need to receive a registration code
[05:48] <ludwin01> @klenwell cant disable the only one vga card on bios   who wrote that?
[05:48] <klenwell> ludwin01 So go the grub route then?
[05:48] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: but its free version
[05:49] <klenwell> ludwin01 It's on AskUbuntu. Got a couple votes. :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/95459/ati-6470m-intel-hd-graphics-3000-drivers
[05:50] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: how to install the non-free version. its not showing in the synaptic
[05:50] <Karmaon> Is it possible to make the Desktop scroll up/down through your mouse-scroll to increase your workspace?
[05:50] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413 use the nonfree version....nonfree just by name it will come with no cost..come on! its not itunes store man
[05:50] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, are you familiar with this computer and hybrid graphics?
[05:50] <`Korvin> hey, I'm trying to run a file, in the same way I'd run it on my webserver
[05:50] <`Korvin> it's saying 'Permission denied'
[05:50] <`Korvin> and with sudo, saying 'command not found'
[05:51] <ludwin01> @karmaon workspace or monitor resolution?
[05:51] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: only free version is there in the synaptic
[05:51] <Ben64> !details | `Korvin
[05:51] <Karmaon> ludwin01: workspace
[05:51] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: Another symptom is that my unity bar at the top seems to have been replaced with a different bar with different icons.  With the new bar, the gear icon is missing, so I can't log out - any suggestions
[05:51] <ludwin01> @arunkumar use the software center
[05:51] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, you running unity?
[05:51] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: yes
[05:52] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, have you tweaked compiz as well?
[05:52] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: no
[05:52] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, are you sure your on the same desktop?
[05:52] <`Korvin> I'm running kubuntu, trying to run a shell file by using the path, it's giving me Permission denied without sudo, and command not found with sudo, it should be executing appropriately
[05:52] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: yes - my other apps are open here
[05:52] <`Korvin> I've just installed kubuntu newest version
[05:53] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: not available in software centre
[05:53] <urfr332g0> kroonrs, apps run on multiple desktops did you install gnome 3 or another desktop?
[05:53] <klenwell> ludwin01 or urfr332g0: what's the downside to just adding nomodeset to grub file?
[05:53] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: haven't installed any gnome
[05:53] <Ben64> `Korvin: are you typing it right? what does it do? does it actually need sudo? does it have execute permissions?
[05:53] <ludwin01> @karmaon  monitor shows u blank space?
[05:53] <urfr332g0> klenwell, have not had to do it so not sure.
[05:54] <`Korvin> no Ben, it's a php file with an appropriate shebang, I'm typing it correctly, php cli is installed
[05:54] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you will be able to boot in for now, may limit the resolution.
[05:55] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: I found log out on the dash home, and when I logged back in, everything is back to normal (including the unity bar at the top, and the missing icons are restored)
[05:55] <kroonrs> urfr332g0: I'll ask again if the problem recurs, but thanks!
[05:55] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Seems to be running fine right now. So I guess I should edit grub then just wait and hope maybe a driver shows up in 12.04?
[05:55] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: there is no such thing as unrar non-free in software centre
[05:56] <`Korvin> I had this same issue trying to run sublime-text-2 while others online said it worked fine. I dismissed it, and installed from a apt with a repo I found online
[05:56] <urfr332g0> klenwell, you might try the ubuntu forums as well, over 60,000 regular users.
[05:56] <ludwin01> @klenwell in my opinion is a bad idea to mess with grubfile
[05:57] <ludwin01> @arunkumar413 add the nonfree repositories
[05:57] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, your just not being accurate man the nomodeset in the kernel is a common procedure
[05:57] <arunkumar413> ludwin01: how
[05:57] <bambanx> guys exist any way for see my minimized windows on unity?
[05:58] <`Korvin> Ben64, I'm for sure typing it correctly
[05:58] <urfr332g0> bambanx, not in the left panel?
[05:58] <Ben64> `Korvin: well you're missing something
[05:58] <ludwin01> @urfr332g0  ok my bad
[05:58] <`Korvin> I figured that much =p
[05:59] <urfr332g0> ludwin01, cool.
[05:59] <`Korvin> Ben64, looks like this is the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1775076
[06:00] <Ben64> `Korvin: unlikely
[06:00] <`Korvin> It's the same description
[06:01] <`Korvin> Ben64, looks like it's due to the fact that I've got it located in a shared ntfs partition
[06:02] <Ben64> that would have been quite important to say previously
[06:02] <cfhowlett> ><
[06:02] <klenwell> urfr332g0, ludwin01: Well, I updated grub but didn't run sudo-update grub command, so I still get the dark screen on boot. How do I get to the grub menu? Should I hold down shift? I got it once but can't seem to get it now.
[06:03] <urfr332g0> klenwell, if you put nomodeset in the kernel in the OS you have to run update grub... The permanent fix in that link
[06:04] <urfr332g0> klenwell, yeah shift
[06:04] <klenwell> urfr332g0 I know. I missed that last part. But now I can't get the grub menu? I've rebooted my machine like 6 times now. Should I hold it, press it at a particular point? Trying again...
[06:05] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Holding it worked. :D
[06:05] <ludwin01> @urf332g0 lets try another way
[06:05] <urfr332g0> klenwell, hold down right after hitting the power on
[06:06] <urfr332g0> cool klenwell
[06:06] <ludwin01> @klenwell the 10.04 version lts its supposed to not give that kind of trouble...
[06:08] <ludwin01> @urfr332g0 cool to help klenwell
[06:09] <dr--willis> use of @ on irc is not needed... :-)
[06:10] <dr--willis> !tab
[06:10] <Stanley00> hi, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and now pidgin wont show up in message indicator. How can I get it back?
[06:12] <klenwell> urfr332g0 ludwin01 ok. I updated grub and rebooted and screen's ok. If resolution's off, I can't tell. :) So I'm going to stick with this for now and hope a driver shows up in the future. I'll add a little writeup to AskUbuntu tomorrow on getting setup on this brand of laptop and maybe add a question on the forum. Thanks again for all your help.
[06:12] <urfr332g0> klenwell, resolution is on check display for resolutions
[06:13] <urfr332g0> no problem
[06:13] <ludwin01> @klenwell no hay problema
[06:14] <klenwell> urfr332g0 When I click displays it says Unknown. Resoluton is set to 1600x900 but it's grayed out.
[06:15] <urfr332g0> klenwell, it probably just has one default now with the nomodeset in the kernel, justa guess really.
[06:16] <klenwell> urfr332g0 Eveything is grayed out in Displays dialogue. :( But looks ok to me. As long as it works... :)
[06:16] <urfr332g0> yeah
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> HI
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> -Invalid-entry-length-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> getting this error
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> How to solve it
[06:18] <Sach> Is there an ubuntu equivalent of 'Wow Slider'?  It is a jQuery image slider for websites
[06:20] <danieldeusing> hey, can someone tell me sth about tcpdump and the length output ?
[06:22] <machiolate> anyone have any reccomendations for web design programs for ubuntu?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> machiolate   kompozer
[06:23] <machiolate> ok thanks
[06:23] <cfhowlett> machiolate   bluefish editor
[06:26] <danieldeusing> well, okay ill ask different: using tcpdump i get an output of my packets including a length information. sometimes this information is equals 0 that means that the packet has no data. knowing that the minimum packet size is 64Byte, this means that the packet has 64Bytes. Sometimes I have others length values like 95 ... my question is, if the 95Bytes are the total packet length or the user data length
[06:27] <Sach> Is there an ubuntu equivalent of 'Wow Slider'?  It is a jQuery image slider for websites?
[06:28] <machiolate> haha cfhowlett ended up getting bluefish, thanks
[06:30] <hydrox24> Sach: jQuery should be fully ubuntu compatible, so I am not sure I am with you?
[06:31] <bazhang> Sach, not seen one, no. the original seems to be only for windows and Mac
[06:31] <Sach> hydrox24, the downloadable file is .exe, which doesn't run wih Wine.
[06:31] <Ben64> should be able to do it all manually
[06:31] <hydrox24> Sach: I see, do they provide a program for creating a slider?
[06:32] <Ben64> make an example on windows, look at the code it generates, and simulate it yourself
[06:32] <Sach> hydrox24:  yes, but only for windows and mac
[06:32] <hydrox24> Ben64: I is likely to be very messy/compressed code if it is generated by a program
[06:32] <hydrox24> Sach: OK, looking into it now
[06:33] <`Korvin> how can I run a command from terminal and keep using the same terminal while the process lives
[06:33] <Ben64> `Korvin: put & at the end of the command
[06:33] <cfhowlett> `Korvin   create  a new tab in the termianl
[06:33] <`Korvin> thanks Ben64
[06:34] <hydrox24> Sach: Yeh, sorry, looks like doing it in windows (or even learning jQuery) would be the way to go.
[06:34] <hydrox24> `Korvin: A good shortcut for that is Crtl+Shift+t
[06:35] <Sach> hydrox24, thanks.   pity that there's nothing on ubuntu for this :(
[06:35] <Stanley00> hi, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10, and now pidgin wont show up in message indicator, and every time I close pidgin, it's quit instead of minimize to panel. How can I get it back?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   start it in the terminal...
[06:37] <cfhowlett> then pin it
[06:38] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: you mean "Keep in launcher"?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   sorry, I THINK so.  I'm on 10.04 and will soon go to XFCE with Ubuntu Studio 12.04 so my unity knowledge is most limited.
[06:39] <dr--willis> descriptive term :-)
[06:39] <cfhowlett> ><)
[06:39] <tyler> can anyone help me with this problem? http://oi41.tinypic.com/2r61f75.jpg
[06:40] <tyler> trying to remove docky icon from dock.
[06:40] <cfhowlett> tyler   sudo apt-get purge docky
[06:40] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: yes, but that's not what I want. I want it minimize to the top panel.
[06:40] <dr--willis> docky icon from the docky dock?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> Stanley00   as I said, I don't use unity enough to be able to help much
[06:40] <somsip> tyler: last time I tried to do that, it wasn't possible. Have you checked in docky forums?
[06:41] <tyler> cfhowlett: is that a different version of docky?
[06:41] <tyler> somsip: no i haven't.
[06:41] <cfhowlett> tyler   that command kills docky and purges it from your system - which I thought is what you wanted...
[06:41] <Stanley00> cfhowlett: ah, thanks for trying to help.
[06:41] <somsip> tyler: I wanted to tidy it up when I was using it, but found that the docky icon was not removable. Is that what you mean? Maybe 9 mnths ago so could've changed since then
[06:42] <tyler> somsip: yes, i want to remove the docky icon from the docky dock.
[06:43] <somsip> tyler: look slike it might have changed but could depend on your version: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/remove-anchor-icon-from-docky/
[06:44] <tyler> dr--willis: on the dock called "docky" there is the icon of app, on the dock, that you used to be able to remove.
[06:44] <dr--willis> not used docky in ages here..
[06:45] <dr--willis> gnome-do was part of docky split off? been that long ago..
[06:46] <bobbyd> hi, what's the name of the tool that builds dpkg's from running "make install" ?
[06:46] <bobbyd> I can't remember the name of it for the life of me
[06:46] <dr--willis> !checkinstall
[06:46] <bobbyd> perfect :)
[06:46] <bobbyd> thanks
[06:47] <bobbyd> I can never connect the name of it with what it actually does
[06:47] <dr--willis> never really used it.
[06:49] <osse> how can I list the contents of an uninstalled package in the terminal?
[06:52] <bambanx> anyone know a ftp program with gui not cli for manage remote folders like local ?
[06:53] <mansoor-s> bambanx: like Filezilla?
[06:53] <bambanx> in filezilla can i set a remote folder like local?
[06:53] <tjadc> Hello
[06:54] <Stanley00> tjadc: hi
[06:54] <cfhowlett> tjadc   greetings
[06:55] <tjadc> I have an Asus(N61J) with a NVidia(GT325M) graphics card, which I am having trouble getting working
[06:55] <tjadc> I have tried installing  bumblebee with no luck
[06:56] <tjadc> When I install the nvidia-current driver and do a X configuration with it, the configuration is incorrect or fails
[06:56] <tjadc> I am running Ubuntu 12.04
[06:56] <tjadc> I was running 10.04 but had similar/same issues
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !precise|tjadc
[06:57] <dr--willis> osse:  the apt-file command i think can do that
[06:57] <tjadc> cfhowlett: great, but 'Precise' didn't solve my problems :(
[06:58] <tjadc> I would have thought that this laptop and its hardware are old enough on the market for Ubuntu to have made the necessary developments to support my laptop's hardware
[06:58] <cfhowlett> tjadc   12.04 isn't supported on this channel yet.  #ubuntu+1 might be able to help you out though.
[06:58] <dr--willis> those dual gpu things are a work in progress.  :(
[06:58] <tjadc> Well that is fine ..
[06:58] <tjadc> Ubuntu 12.04 isn't the problem I believe
[06:58] <tjadc> as mentioned before, I was running 10.04
[06:59] <cfhowlett> tjadc   sorry but it DOES release in only 3 months!
[06:59] <tjadc> That's great to hear, but Ubuntu isn't my problem
[06:59] <tjadc> my problem is getting the graphics to run
[07:00] <cfhowlett> tjadc   fiair enough
[07:00] <cfhowlett> tjadc   *fair* enough
[07:00] <dr--willis> check the 12.* bug reports is all we can really suggest
[07:00] <tjadc> I have done immense googling about this issue, since 10.04
[07:01] <tjadc> I haven't had any luck installing ANY nvidia graphics cards, this is my second laptop with an Nvidia Gfx card
[07:01] <tjadc> ATI is a breeze
[07:01] <dr--willis> ive had few issues with nvidia.
[07:01] <dr--willis> none of those dual gpus however
[07:02] <dr--willis> n
[07:02] <rbrooks> anyone running 'precise' ? what is 'alternative"?  kde?
[07:02] <dr--willis> my one ati is a pain
[07:02] <tjadc> dr--willis: hmm, well maybe that is the issue .. This is a dual gpu
[07:02] <crizzy> rbrooks: #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <dr--willis> tjadc:  exactly.... dual gpu is a work in progress area
[07:03] <tjadc> rbrooks: ?
[07:03] <dr--willis> alt cd is a different installer
[07:03] <rbrooks> the newest i can find is 'precise' anyone running that?  also what does ''alternative'' mean KDE?
[07:03] <rbrooks> ahh
[07:03] <tjadc> dr--willis: So I am unable to use my gfx card at all :?
[07:04] <tjadc> I mean, that would be quite rediculous ..
[07:05] <rbrooks> tjadc, we are lucky to be using any hw at all, please check hardware compatibility lists before trying to install any Linux
[07:05] <rbrooks> my go5200 isnt supported in any Linux either
[07:06] <crizzy> well, i just bought a new laptop some weeks ago... before that, i checked from ubuntu.com that it's certified >:-)
[07:06] <dr--willis> tjadc:  its a cutting edge area.
[07:06] <crizzy> no need to worry if stuff works or not then...
[07:07] <macmartine> Any ISPConfig users know about this? http://serverfault.com/questions/361102/how-to-have-separate-server-configs-for-port-80-and-443-with-ispconfig
[07:07] <dr--willis> if those gpu things were more standarized they 2ould work better i imagine
[07:08] <dr--willis> bbl
[07:09] <rbrooks> crizzy, good to hear, it used to be rare for Linux to work on a laptop because of hw not supported
[07:10] <rbrooks> is anyone running precise or is that like something to stay away from is systemd in it?
[07:10] <rbrooks> ack i googole
[07:15] <Sach> I've downloaded a .deb package for slcreator.  However, when I try to open it with GDebi Package Installer, I get: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gambas-runtime (>= 1.0.0)"
[07:24] <bobo37773> Sach: are you still there?
[07:24] <Sach> bobo37773  yes, i'm here
[07:25] <bobo37773> okay so you downloaded a deb file for what version of ubuntu?
[07:25] <Sach> bobo37773  for 11.04
[07:27] <bobo37773> is that your distro
[07:28] <bobo37773> Sach: I mean same version
[07:29] <Sach> bobo37773  i dont get what you mean :s
[07:29] <bobo37773> Sach: gambas-runtime is the name of an application
[07:29] <bobo37773> Sach: probably for an older version of ubuntu
[07:29] <terminhell> or build from source...
[07:29] <terminhell> if the source is available
[07:29] <bobo37773> exactly
[07:30] <Sach> bobo37773  so do you have any ideas as to how i can get slcreator to run on 11.04?
[07:30] <terminhell> i dont like how building from source has become a thing of the past
[07:31] <bobo37773> Sach: yeah find gambas-runtime and build it
[07:31] <bambanx> what good wysiwyg editor for html with ftp we have for linux  guys? kompozer fail me to connect ftp
[07:32] <mlc> bambanx: bluefish
[07:33] <bambanx> mlc,  i wanna wysiwyg
[07:33] <mlc> bambanx: mom. sorry ^^
[07:33] <benmctee_> Sach: gambas-runtime can be found in Synaptic Package Manager if you do not want to build it
[07:33] <diverdude> how many ports are actually available in a computer and in a router?
[07:34] <Sach> benmctee  thanks, i've installed gambas-runtime2, rebooted, but i still get the same error when trying to install my .deb package.
[07:34] <Ben64> diverdude: 65536
[07:36] <mlc> bambanx: look nice: BlueGriffon, http://bluegriffon.org
[07:37] <bambanx> thx mlc
[07:37] <fling> how to export history from Skype?
[07:37] <lion> hello everyone
[07:37] <arunkumar413> how to extract a password protected rar file
[07:38] <randomuser> arunkumar413, enter password
[07:38] <arunkumar413> randomuser: don't have password
[07:39] <randomuser> arunkumar413, ask user that created archive for password
[07:40] <arunkumar413> randomuser: if i can do that why would i come here.
[07:40] <lion> using hydra to crack home network computer password
[07:41] <LachlanH> Hey guys. Desperately need help with screen res issue. Recently put a KVM between PC and Monitor. OS now can't determine resolutions for screen. Using NVidia drivers, will not allow my resolution above 1024x768. Generic default driver will allow a new mode to be added, but performance is terrible. Doing the same thing with 10.04 instead (I'm using 11.10) works correctly with the generic driver with good performance. Help?
[07:45] <terminhell> LachlanH: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KVM   this may help a bit
[07:45] <arunkumar413> how to extract a password protected rar file without password
[07:45] <fling> how to export history from Skype?
[07:45] <randomuser> arunkumar413, i assume you come here because you have a problem with your ubuntu installation
[07:47] <bambanx> mlc, thanks bro
[07:48] <Skittlezjunkie> eveening
[07:49] <Skittlezjunkie> anyone up for chatting im bored out of my mind
[07:50] <randomuser> Skittlezjunkie, try #defocus
[07:50] <marvin_> woops 12298 fuser processes
[07:59] <kode0> Mac OS X Mountain Lion is going to be released in Summer.
[07:59] <kode0> Will Ubuntu be able to compete with the latest OSX?
[08:01] <hydrox24> kode0: Yes, but please go to the ubuntu-offtopic channel to discuss that. Thanks!
[08:02] <nix_> t
[08:04] <LachlanH> Anyone know why scrolling and window dragging is laggy? It's still smooth, it just kinda... lags behind the mouse. It's weird. Like if I grab a window and drag it around fast, it will keep following the arc of the mouse for about 500ms after i've stopped moving the mouse. Like it takes an extra 500ms to complete the path I took with the mouse.
[08:05] <hydrox24> LachlanH: We may be able to help, but we need to tell us what version of ubuntu you are using.
[08:06] <LachlanH> hydrox24: 11.10
[08:06] <LachlanH> 64-bit
[08:07] <LachlanH> Weirdly, I don't get the same issue on 10.04 with the exact same hardware and configuration.
[08:09] <beasty> morning guys
[08:10] <hydrox24> beasty: Hi
[08:10] <beasty> hydrox24: hi
[08:10] <hydrox24> beasty: what's your issue?
[08:11] <beasty> i have issues installing ubuntu 11.10 on my new pc
[08:11] <hydrox24> oh, just saw you messages on offtopic
[08:11] <celu> HELLO
[08:11] <hydrox24> ok, continue.
[08:11] <beasty> well it install all well no errors
[08:11] <beasty> but then when i get to grub after reboot
[08:11] <hydrox24> beasty: can you give details on error messages or HW?
[08:11] <celu> My linux is not support actualizacion
[08:11] <auronandace> LachlanH: 10.04 uses metacity as window manager, 11.10 uses compiz
[08:12] <beasty> i select the ubuntu and i get a blackscreen with a cursor
[08:12] <hydrox24> celu: You can try ubuntu-EN replacing EN with your language code for non-english speaking helpers :)
[08:12] <beasty> hydrox24: hw: core i7, 16gb ram, 128gb ssd & gforce 560gtx
[08:13] <hydrox24> beasty: I see, and it simply stays at that screen indefinetely?
[08:13] <beasty> hydrox24: yes
[08:13] <urfr332g0> beasty, you know the graphic chip/card?
[08:13] <beasty> hydrox24: and i used the alternative installer
[08:13] <hydrox24> beasty: can you try hitting the ctrl-alt-f1 combo and telling us if that gives you a shell?
[08:14] <beasty> hydrox24: tried that last night
[08:15] <beasty> but failed
[08:15] <beasty> all the screens looked the same
[08:15] <urfr332g0> beasty, you try nomodeset in the kernel line at the grub menu?
[08:16] <beasty> urfr332g0: i'll try that later today
[08:16] <beasty> i'm currently at work
[08:16] <beasty> just came here to get some pointers
[08:17] <niklasfi> beasty: i dont really know, but could this be a two-graphics-card related issue? imo some i7s have integrated graphics chips
[08:18] <beasty> niklasfi: mm i did notice that it has a hdmi exit
[08:18] <beasty> maybe i can disable that one
[08:18] <beasty> good point
[08:19] <niklasfi> beasty: on our last linux install party we had many dual-graphics related issues. most of them were solved by booting back into windows and en-/disabling the onboard graphics card with a keyboard shortcut (we mostly install on laptops)
[08:20] <niklasfi> beasty: should be able to do it using your bios/uefi though
[08:20] <beasty> indeed
[08:20] <beasty> i'll think about that
[08:20] <beasty> thanks
[08:20] <beasty> now just one more questnio
[08:20] <beasty> s/nio/ion/
[08:21] <beasty> i have a 128gb ssd on sda1
[08:21] <hydrox24> yeh?
[08:21] <hydrox24> yup
[08:21] <beasty> but also a 128gb on sdb
[08:21] <beasty> can i mirror sda to sdb ?
[08:23] <NixGeek> beasty: are you talking about a mirror type raid?
[08:23] <niklasfi> beasty: what do you mean by mirror? RAID? exact image copy at some point in time? copying all files from one platter to the other at regular intervals or user triggered?
[08:23] <NixGeek> or do you want to perform a backup
[08:23] <beasty> just want to have sda synced with sdb
[08:24] <terminhell> sounds like a xorg issue
[08:24] <beasty> for if for instance sda crashes i can just put in sdb
[08:24] <beasty> and resume normal operation
[08:24] <terminhell> with the video stuff
[08:25] <dRounse> what is mysql?
[08:25] <terminhell> !mysql
[08:25] <niklasfi> beasty: what you are talking about sounds like using RAID1, but i suggest you do propper backups.
[08:25] <randOmize> Hi there!   Every time I start up Ubuntu says something like , "The disk drive for /windows is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery".  Then the disks show up in the file system.
[08:25] <randOmize> I think the fstab looks alright
[08:26] <dRounse> i just dont understand what a mysql server does
[08:26] <terminhell> its for databases
[08:26] <slobro> dRounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL
[08:26] <urfr332g0> randOmize, check the uuid and fsteb?
[08:26] <urfr332g0> fstab*
[08:26] <dRounse> ive looked it up, i just dont get what are the databases for
[08:27] <beasty> niklasfi: yes i have 2 backup location for that + i put all my projects in a .git
[08:27] <slobro> store data
[08:27] <slobro> from whatever
[08:27] <terminhell> organizing data
[08:27] <slobro> for whatever
[08:27] <NixGeek> beasty: if you do raid1 and sda goes down, you might have problems booting from sdb if you just replaced sda with it (since it will now see nothing for sdb)... you might be able to use a usb stick or cd to boot from, using mdstat to remove to unused drive
[08:27] <dvhh> dRounse : why are you interested ?
[08:27] <beasty> NixGeek: ok
[08:27] <urfr332g0> randOmize, your swap may not be right look to see if it is mounted
[08:28] <beasty> NixGeek: i'll look if i can setup raid on my motherboard
[08:28] <randOmize> urfr332g0  i dont see the swap mounted in the file system
[08:28] <dRounse> dvhh: im not really interested in making one, i was setting up a home/file server running ubuntu server and it said do you want to make a lamp so i looked that up and saw mysql
[08:28] <beasty> btw should i install regular or with lvm ?
[08:28] <randOmize> also, I dont know what you mean by check the uuid
[08:28] <randOmize> sorry
[08:28] <dvhh> beasty : setting it up after would erase the drives
[08:28] <Fudge> anyone running ubuntu server 11.04 and up, wondering if dpkg -l | grep speakup returns results
[08:28] <urfr332g0> randOmize, run sudo blkid and check the swap uuid against the fstab
[08:28] <beasty> dvhh: it's a freshly installed system
[08:28] <beasty> np
[08:29] <NixGeek> beasty: hardware raid from the mobo is the way to go because then you could remove the bad drive (ie sda) from the equation before boot time.  That being said, I like niklasfi's suggestion of proper backup.  Just replace drive with known good one and restore data
[08:29] <niklasfi> on that mysql related issue. i would like to use phpymadmin is there a way to get it without installing apache et all? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/405597/
[08:29] <dvhh> dRounse : if you don't know you don't need it :)
[08:29] <urfr332g0> randOmize, run that command it is a set od letterand numbers identifying the partition it is in the fstab
[08:29] <dRounse> my server didnt work for some reason after installing, it wont boot, but that brings me to another question, if freenas 8 supports ssh what makes it different than an ubuntu server
[08:30] <Braden`> Hello
[08:30] <urfr332g0> !uuid | randOmize
[08:30] <dvhh> dRounse : samba or sftp
[08:30] <dRounse> dvhh: i know i didnt use that
[08:30] <Braden`> Does anyone know of a good web control panel for Ubuntu?
[08:30] <niklasfi> NixGeek: i heard a lot of bad things about mobo raid controllers
[08:30] <NixGeek> Braden` : webmin
[08:30] <beasty> soo ... should i got with regular or lvm ? :)
[08:30] <NixGeek> niklasfi: I've not used one, I'm software RAID on my buntu server
[08:31] <dRounse> dont use webmin for ubuntu
[08:31] <NixGeek> a full hardware controller is definitely the way to go... just $$$
[08:31] <arunkumar413> how to extract rar files without password
[08:31] <dRounse> it doesnt work anymore, well thats what i heard
[08:31] <farrukhjon> hi all! I need advice for building custom optimized kernel for HP Probook machine, may be anyone have experience of
[08:31] <randOmize> urfr332g0  These dont seem to be the same
[08:31] <beasty> NixGeek: €€€ is no issue
[08:31] <NixGeek> dRounse: I'm using it now
[08:32] <dRounse> arunkumar413:  you can try to crack it
[08:32] <dRounse> NixGeek: what version of ubuntu
[08:32] <dedoera> what do i need to start programming?
[08:32] <urfr332g0> randOmize, paste the one from the sudo blkid into the fstab so the match, replace the one there,.
[08:32] <niklasfi> beasty: then go hardware raid with a pcie card
[08:32] <dedoera> anything?
[08:32] <NixGeek> 11.10
[08:32] <arunkumar413> dRounse: how to crack
[08:32] <Braden`> Are there any that have a package that can be obtained from apt?
[08:32] <urfr332g0> they*
[08:32] <Braden`> webmin doesn't have an apt package
[08:32] <terminhell> dRounse: have you tried john the ripper
[08:32] <niklasfi> dedoera: what do you want to program? are you looking for a way into programming as a whole?
[08:32] <dRounse> NixGeek: oh someone told me that it didnt work, sorry
[08:32] <randOmize> urfr332g0  it looks like theyre all wrong...
[08:32] <beasty> but thanks guys
[08:33] <dRounse> terminhell: not personally,
[08:33] <NixGeek> beasty: good luck
[08:33] <beasty> i'll come back to you tonight if i still have troubles
[08:33] <dedoera> niklasfi
[08:33] <beasty> :)
[08:33] <urfr332g0> randOmize, make sure your correct your computer boots with that info.
[08:33] <dedoera> oops, yes, just looking at getting into it
[08:33] <terminhell> dRounse: it may do what you need. your going to have to decypher the password one way or another
[08:33] <dRounse> will freenas 8 with ssh allow me to access my files anywhere?
[08:33] <urfr332g0> !fstab | randOmize
[08:34] <dRounse> terminhell, that wasnt me that was arunkumar413 who needed it
[08:34] <dvhh> dRounse : if you map the port on your router
[08:34] <urfr332g0> !pm | Random832
[08:34] <urfr332g0> randOmize, I don't do pm's
[08:34] <randOmize> ok thats fine
[08:34] <terminhell> dRounse: oops
[08:34] <dRounse> dvhh: is that difficult? sorry im kinda a noob
[08:34] <Braden`> Does webmin require I install webmin specific modules like apache, or can I use my ubuntu apache install with it?
[08:34] <niklasfi> dedoera: then i would suggest you learn python. it as a not-so-steep learning curve and you can do nearly everthing very easily. for learning python all you need is some patience and a good tutorial
[08:35] <dRounse> terminhell i was going to tell him to try that but you beat me to it
[08:35] <randOmize> so i did sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:35] <LachlanH> Hey guys. How can I run a script every time I log into the desktop?
[08:35] <arunkumar413> dRounse: i don't have the password. I downloaded a movie compressed in rar format
[08:35] <dvhh> dRounse: your router should have a web interface to configure that
[08:35] <dedoera> where do i do the programming?
[08:35] <randOmize> urfr332g0 and that isnt the same uuid as the command you send me said
[08:35] <dRounse> arunkumar413 then its fake, sorry for that, when you get a rar file like that there is no movie in it, trust me
[08:35] <randOmize> so I should change it so they all match the results of the command you sent me?
[08:35] <niklasfi> dedoera: in any text editor you like. you can use gedit for example, which comes pre-installed
[08:36] <dedoera> excellent
[08:36] <dRounse> dvhh, i know that, but do i just pick sftp then the port and enable it?
[08:36] <dedoera> and you can just 'run' a txt file and its a program?
[08:36] <niklasfi> dedoera: basically. yes
[08:36] <urfr332g0> randOmize, the ones in the blkid command are correct, you just want to make sure you know which uuiod is for which partition shown in fstab.
[08:36] <arunkumar413> dRounse: i opened the rar and can see the movie file in it
[08:36] <urfr332g0> uuid*
[08:36] <randOmize> yea theyre labeled
[08:36] <dvhh> dRounse : yes should work
[08:37] <randOmize> thanks for your help!
[08:37] <randOmize> I am so loving all of you folks of ubuntu irc.  You make ubuntu amazing.  Thanks!!!!
[08:37] <arunkumar413> dRounse: problem is i'm unable to extract the rar without the password
[08:37] <niklasfi> dedoera: its been quite some time since i started programming, and python was not my first language, but i think http://www.diveintopython.net/toc/index.html could give you a good start
[08:37] <dRounse> arunkumar413 yea but its not really a movie, theyll tell you to go to a website and sign up for all kinds of crap before you get the password, ttrust me, i know you got a torrent
[08:37] <urfr332g0> randOmize, cool you can also remove the uuid and just put /dev/sda?  the question mark would be the partition number
[08:37] <dedoera> ill take a look, thanks
[08:38] <dvhh> dRounse : I got a nas that I can access from anywhere
[08:38] <dRounse> dvhh, ok thank you what port should i use?
[08:38] <arunkumar413> dRounse: yeah, there is also a doc with instructions to signup to get the password
[08:39] <dvhh> dRounse : 22 is the standard one, depending on how you trust the strength of your password, but it is advised to use a non standard one
[08:39] <dRounse> arunkumar413: its basically impossible to open it or even get the password, trust me ive tried several times
[08:39] <arunkumar413> dRounse: ok
[08:40] <arunkumar413> dRounse: abandoning my effort. Thanks
[08:40] <dRounse> dvhh: well how would someone get into it? like id know how to access it, but do people try to hack into peoples hom seervers
[08:40] <dvhh> dRounse : another issue is also the external ip address or hostname
[08:40] <dvhh> dRounse : you would be surprised
[08:40] <dRounse> arunkumar413: when you download movies from torrents look to see if its a rar, if it is dont download
[08:41] <dRounse> dvhh: how do i set up an external ip address
[08:41] <arunkumar413> dRounse: yeah sure. thanks for the info
[08:41] <dvhh> dRounse : you cannot set it up, your ISP choose it for you
[08:41] <dRounse> dvhh, wait just one question first, is freenas 8 with ssh any different than ubuntu server
[08:42] <dvhh> dRounse : can be an automated one or a static one
[08:42] <Engin> my ubuntu server is visible on the windows network with its host name... but that is not in the smb.conf, how the hell does this thing work ? (and i cannot browse my shares)
[08:42] <dvhh> dRounse : freenas is stable enough, I haven't tried ubuntu server
[08:43] <dRounse> dvhh so as far as playing my movies on another computer it will work?