[12:01] <LordLimecat> deepbluegene: (or anyone wondering about beryl) very good beryl walkthrough (requires SLIGHT terminal knowledge) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[12:01] <jimmygoon> "the client just controls the server".... and you are recommending flash frontends to stream the media (unless I'm confused)
[12:01] <iMilad> elhesius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323661
[12:01] <|Jason8|> Hey guys, when I try to run an ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10 desktop CD, my computer locks up at the splash screen and menu.  The 5.10 CDs load, though.
[12:01] <|Jason8|> Is there a way I can install 6.06 or 6.10?
[12:02] <LordLimecat> jimmygoon or whoevers askin about controlling the server
[12:02] <Steil> thanks jimmygoon, mpd seems pretty straightforward
[12:02] <vox754> sethk, Actually I created the /boot partition in the first place because I read it somewhere, when I was trying to use SUSE. But then I didn't know exactly what was the deal with it. Now that you brought it up, it seems right. Do you think it should matter if I stop that daemon?
[12:02] <LordLimecat> VLC front end will allow anyone who uses the web interface to control playback on the actual server
[12:02] <holycow> jimmygoon, put me on your ignore list, i'm not interested in speaking with you
[12:03] <gyaresu> holycow: Steil It makes sense because the headless server is probably plugged into his stereo.
[12:03] <jimmygoon> holycow, why are you being so obnoxious. I'm trying to help.
[12:03] <sethk> vox754, it will prevent some error messages from being written to the log.  You should be able to start it again, after umounting /boot
[12:03] <holycow> jimmygoon, your trying to help me for some reason, i'm not interested.  now go away.
[12:03] <gyaresu> !etiquette | holycow
[12:03] <ubotu> holycow: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:03] <jimmygoon> no, I'm not.  Some of these people are completely new.
[12:04] <holycow> gyaresu, i told you, stop talking to me.  i have nothing to say to you
[12:04] <LordLimecat> what was it that was the philosophy behind ubuntu again?
[12:04] <deepbluegene> LordLimecat: thanx. now i will go through forums and try to follow the instructions  and come back later here to tel whether i succeeded or failed.thanx for ur help.
[12:04] <Steil> /ignore is pretty useful
[12:04] <holycow> exactly
[12:04] <LordLimecat> :)
[12:04] <sethk> LordLimecat, something about being friendly, I think.
[12:04] <jimmygoon> then why don't you put him in your "ignore list" ...
[12:05] <metal> quick question: I'm starting a new job that uses Ubuntu and I want to setup a li'l box to familiarize myself Ubuntu and Drupal. Would you assume they are running the 6.06 LTS release, or should I go with the 6.10.
[12:05] <holycow> i welcome your ignore list
[12:05] <holycow> lol
[12:05] <ephesius1> iMilad: thanks ill try that
[12:05] <LordLimecat> thought so
[12:05] <LordLimecat> just wanted to make sure this wasnt #windows
[12:05] <Pablo> my ubuntu install is wanting to do a dst upgrade... but I am already running 6.10
[12:05] <Pablo> wtf
[12:05] <gyaresu> Steil: Unless you're trying to monitor rude people hassling others...
[12:05] <holycow> metal, either will work fine
[12:05] <sethk> LordLimecat, don't say that word, it makes smoke come out of my computer
[12:05] <b0ng0> Hi I was wondering if someone can help me, I installed a new login screen using KDM and now I cant get the original back :s
[12:05] <holycow> gyaresu, i'm not hassing steil, i'm hassling you.  you refuse to put me on y our ignore list
[12:05] <metal> holycow, thanks bro.
[12:05] <orangefly> is there a setting in beryl that can mess up your sound....???....
[12:05] <LordLimecat> sethk: windows has its place, IMO.....
[12:05] <gyaresu> !etiquette | holycow
[12:05] <ubotu> holycow: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:06] <stonarmusic> anyone ever install the avasys drivers for an epson scanner?
[12:06] <crimsun> orangefly: ...no
[12:06] <gyaresu> holycow: Stop hassling anyone.
[12:06] <holycow> metal, yeah no worries.  we use it, either one would get you familiar with it enough to get you in
[12:06] <holycow> gyaresu, go away
[12:06] <sethk> LordLimecat, yes, it does, I was just being funny. well, trying to be funny, anyway
[12:06] <orangefly> or emerald
[12:06] <LordLimecat> lol
[12:06] <cafuego_> metal: Do they have a public site that I could check apache or php versions on? :-)
[12:06] <gyaresu> ops? Someone please tell holycow to behave...
[12:06] <Pablo> why is my 6.10 wanting to do a dist upgrade to 6.10?
[12:06] <LordLimecat> just want to make sure, there are some ppl who really are so elitist that they think windows is useless
[12:06] <posingaspopular> ee99ee: i forget what i suggested brb food
[12:06] <LordLimecat> competition is good
[12:06] <c_ubuntu_novice> i just can't figure out how to change permissions on files and folders.  Does anyone know of any helpful URLs that describes this?
[12:06] <posingaspopular> oh wait
[12:06] <posingaspopular> ummm
[12:06] <gyaresu> non2: You still got the res problem?
[12:06] <orangefly> crimsun, or emerald
[12:06] <posingaspopular> you have to compile them from source
[12:06] <crimsun> gyaresu: / holycow: can you two take your spat to query, please?
[12:06] <LordLimecat> as long as it will make creative and logitech eventually support ubuntu >:(
[12:06] <posingaspopular> !rpm
[12:06] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:06] <holycow> *sigh* funny, leave me alone due.  i didn't talk to you i am not interested in talking to you
[12:06] <sethk> LordLimecat, not me, I use whatever makes my life easier.
[12:06] <posingaspopular> brb
[12:07] <LordLimecat> me too :D
[12:07] <metal> cafuego_, i'm not that naive =]
[12:07] <stonarmusic> im trying to compile the source tarball
[12:07] <LordLimecat> holycow...not to but in......
[12:07] <LordLimecat> but wouldnt it be easier if everyone moved on
[12:07] <LordLimecat> and just...pretended it didnt happen?
[12:07] <cafuego_> metal: No, I mean: you cna get apache/php info from the web server (if they have one) which would tell you which ubuntu version they use.
[12:07] <holycow> i'm just asking someone to stop talking to me
[12:07] <xoin> hi, if i installed the nvidia drivers my xserver crashes what to do?
[12:07] <Rocito> how do i /  is there a way to install the following firefox plugins: -flash 8   - java runtime env. 5 (i installed the JRE .bin by sh <filename>.bin  but firefox doesnt recognise it)
[12:07] <holycow> its not unreasonable
[12:07] <yomm> lol the mplayer man is like an encyclopedia :)
[12:07] <LordLimecat> i suppose thats true
[12:07] <holycow> okay next question :)
[12:08] <ee99ee> posingaspopular: but I don't have the source, I only have RPMs
[12:08] <ee99ee> and not SRPMs
[12:08] <LordLimecat> heres yer next question:
[12:08] <crimsun> orangefly: no, not probable
[12:08] <LordLimecat> i want to kill off an entire session
[12:08] <LordLimecat> how?
[12:08] <LordLimecat> (ie, tty7)
[12:08] <non2> gyaresu: yes.. or have you postet something to solve it i havent seen?
[12:08] <LordLimecat> i KNOW theres a way to do it
[12:08] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: X, you mean? ctrl-alt-backpsace
[12:08] <LordLimecat> lets say that doesnt work
[12:09] <gyaresu> non2: Is it from the install cd that you can't get to the terminals?
[12:09] <LordLimecat> and all i have is a terminal
[12:09] <LordLimecat> i want the commandline way
[12:09] <b0ng0> does anyone know how i can get my original login screen back?
[12:09] <metal> holycow, i would assume there will be less updating packages so i'll go with the latest version.
[12:09] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:09] <LordLimecat> cafuego: i mean in general, what if tty6 acts up
[12:09] <LordLimecat> and i need to kill it
[12:09] <LordLimecat> i dont just mean x
[12:09] <holycow> metal, that won't matter.   you will need to know whatever package version is being used.  we use lts only and wont EVER consider any of the inbetween releases, other businesses my be more lax
[12:09] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: ps x, find out the problematic app, kill it.
[12:10] <non2> gyaresu: no.. i have installed it from an alternate cd to my py
[12:10] <holycow> metal, variation in package features between releases is fairly minor tho, so you should be fine
[12:10] <non2> pc
[12:10] <LordLimecat> cafuego: that will only work on x o.0 again, what if its a terminal session that needs killing
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Why would it only work on X?
[12:10] <gyaresu> non2: So can you get to the login screen? And then to the desktop?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> you said to ps x
[12:10] <Rocito> bump.. anyone got a quick guide to installing java runtime environment and flash 8 ?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> o.0
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: yes, and?
[12:10] <LordLimecat> like, isnt there a way to find all processes in a certain tty and kill it
[12:10] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Open a console and see what 'ps x' does.
[12:10] <non2> gyaresu: yes.. i'm logged in right now
[12:11] <Tangee> is it possible to change to default startup screen of xgl (shoddy old x server startup, black/white screen with a black 'X' cursor)?
[12:11] <metal> holycow, thanks for the advice.
[12:11] <jimmygoon> cafuego, I don't know what it means but I've always done "ps ax"
[12:11] <holycow> Rocito, there is no flash 8, there is flash 9.  i think flash 9 is already packaged and backported but you can just put the .so and .xpi files into /usr/shared/firefox/plugins
[12:11] <holycow> metal, yeah no worries, have fun
[12:11] <cafuego_> jimmygoon: Yeah, more info (including the terminal) that way.
[12:11] <holycow> !java
[12:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:11] <LordLimecat> cafuego: just did....to clarify......
[12:11] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[12:11] <LordLimecat>  3562 tty6     Ss+    0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
[12:11] <gyaresu> non2: So you're logged in at the desktop etc. but you can't change to the vt's without them being all fuzzy?
[12:11] <holycow> Rocito, for java thats the info
[12:11] <holycow> !flash
[12:11] <LordLimecat> say i want to kill ALL procs tagged tty6
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports.   You checked out the link to !fixres right?
[12:13] <putterson> could somebody help me to set up my logitech mx revolution on my edgy laptop
[12:13] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: Yes, killing the parent will kill the children UNLESS you have a blocked process, in which case you end up with a zombie.
[12:13] <holycow> Maul555, chances are its your ogl screen savers ... try disabling all screen savers except maybe 1 that isn't ogl enabled and see if that changes the behaviour.  if thats what it is, your driver is crashing during one of the ogl ones and  you will need to remove them if you want randomized screen savers
[12:13] <zero> hey, i just installed Kubuntu 6.06 on my computer and i cant start the GUI, can anyone help?
[12:13] <Maul555> my screensaver is restarting my x server, or freezing up the whole pc...  anyone know about this?
[12:13] <LordLimecat> and theres no way to terminate em all?
[12:13] <Maul555> oh...
[12:13] <gyaresu> !mouse | putterson
[12:13] <ubotu> putterson: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:14] <sethk> LordLimecat, you can start the child app with nohup if you don't want it to terminate
[12:14] <stonarmusic> I get this error when i run make:  ltdl.h: No such file or directory
[12:14] <LordLimecat> and if you want such a process killed?
[12:14] <LordLimecat> thats what im after
[12:14] <metal> lol it shouldnt be hard to figure out which version, we are running one of the mirrors from this campus.
[12:14] <LordLimecat> all of em, even zombies, frozen, paused, etc
[12:14] <LordLimecat> all of em terminated
[12:14] <foormea> hey all. could anyone tell me whether it is hal that is responsible for automounting usb thumbdrives to /media/usbdisk ?
[12:14] <metal> thanks guys, take care.
[12:14] <[0`0] > Hi, i running debian, how i can install KDE?
[12:14] <non2> gyaresu: i just checked out the thing with the framebuffer.. there was nothing about fixres on the page
[12:14] <vox754> sethk, Now that I view it this way.  All I get is "printer not connected". This just started within the last couple of days. What could the problem be? What other info do I need to give?
[12:17] <[0`0] > ! KDE
[12:17] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[12:17] <LordLimecat> i see
[12:17] <jimmygoon> [0`0] , You can either install the kde environment or you can install the kubuntu-desktop package that effectively converts your install to a kubuntu install (ie: boot screen, gdm, etc are changed)
[12:17] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:17] <l3oddah> i'm using ubuntu 6.10 and i've installed it on a laptop and installled the gnome network manager, but it doesn't show my wireless card, the wireless card is working fine but just not showing up in that manager
[12:17] <LordLimecat> that IS what i was lookin for
[12:17] <LordLimecat> just hoped it was simpler than that
[12:17] <LordLimecat> :(
[12:17] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, is it a local printer? usb? if  you delete the printer, unplug the printer and replug it ... does it show up automagically when you try to add a pritner again in the first dialog?
[12:17] <LordLimecat> thanks for the help tho
[12:17] <xtknight> LordLimecat, unfortunately not
[12:17] <LordLimecat> its been bugging me forever
[12:17] <gyaresu> non2: Sorry, I don't know.
[12:17] <cafuego_> making it too easy to kill things is never good ;-)
[12:17] <StoneNote> l3oddah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <LordLimecat> i SWEAR my linux teacher did it easier, years back
[12:18] <odix> anyone have a geforce mx 420
[12:18] <PriceChild> !anyone | odix
[12:18] <ubotu> odix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:18] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: that said, you can script that oneliner into a shellscript and make it eat a tty as parameter.
[12:18] <cafuego_> poningru: Yeah, it's not quite right, is it?
[12:18] <LordLimecat> killall poningru
[12:18] <poningru> zonoes
[12:18] <LordLimecat> i get  the idea
[12:19] <Bajsorvar> Hey. I need some help guys. What do I need to do to be able to increase my screen resolution to 1280x1024 with an ATI card?
[12:19] <LordLimecat> its been a while, i can relearn awk and grep
[12:19] <LordLimecat> theyre beautiful when they work
[12:19] <holycow> !resolution
[12:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:19] <lesshaste> what's the command to find and install the latest security updates?
[12:19] <non2> gyaresu: ok, but anyways thanks for the effort
[12:19] <LordLimecat> do you realize that they run faster than native windows commands, even when running on windows using gnuwin?
[12:19] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: it is a local USB printer (Canon Pixma iP3000), it uses the commercial Turboprint drivers. If I delete it and add it again it still says "not connected" if I try to print anything to it.
[12:19] <holycow> Bajsorvar, basically you need the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor model and make.  we don't have a gui for this yet
[12:19] <jimmygoon> lesshaste, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:19] <gyaresu> non2: :( sorry.
[12:19] <LordLimecat> its insane'
[12:19] <blanky> hey in gnome do you guys know how to make it so that my firefox, when maximized, truely is maximized? right now it's in between bottom and top panels and it's really pissing me off
[12:19] <alienseer23> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to set up an infared remote control for Ubuntu?
[12:19] <lesshaste> jimmygoon: won't that install all updates?
[12:19] <odix> whos got tv out working with geforce mx 420
[12:20] <omglazers> Hey; I was trying to get a small installation of windows xp for a backup onto the same drive as a linux installation. I know it was incorrect to do it linux,windows order but I had to. Windows place it's booter in the MBR. I placed my GRUB however for the windows and linux into a 50 mb partition at the front of the drive. If I dd out the mbr, will it resume normally with the GRUB? Also, what command should I use to avoid deleting the partition tables/ Isnt
[12:20] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, oh damn canon?  i can't help that and i don't use turboprint although i looked at it.
[12:20] <alienseer23> or...how do I configure lirc, please?
[12:20] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, might i nonhelpfully suggest the turboprint forums or something?  i don't know i'm sorry
[12:20] <sethk> omglazers, dd would indeed replace the partition table
[12:20] <jimmygoon> lesshaste, yes it will sorry, I didn't know you wanted security specifically, I don't know how to do that
[12:20] <lesshaste> I meant just the security updates
[12:20] <sethk> omglazers, best thing to do is write down the partition table, use dd, then use fdisk to restore the partition table
[12:20] <lesshaste> jimmygoon: ok thanks
[12:20] <lesshaste> anyone know?
[12:20] <alienseer23> !lirc
[12:20] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[12:20] <omglazers> sethk: I thought you can use dd to only get rid of the begining non-partition table areas
[12:21] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, i don't buy canon for that very reason, hp is well supported and Brother is actually AMAZING for printers ... they even have debian installers for their drivers ... but yeah thats a non answer
[12:21] <sethk> omglazers, no, because the minimum you can write is 512, and that includes the partition table
[12:21] <cafuego_> LordLimecat:  ps xa | awk '/([ ] *)([0-9] +) tty6/ {print $1}' | sudo xargs kill -9
[12:21] <Hydr0p0nX> how big of a deal is it to upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 ?
[12:21] <Fer> Hey guys, another question:  Why can't i write TO my external HD but i can READ From?
[12:21] <Fer> how can i make it so i can do both?
[12:21] <jimmygoon> Fer, what FS?
[12:21] <holycow> Hydr0p0nX, right now i STRONGLY urge you to not try that.  do a clean install
[12:21] <posingaspopular> permissions
[12:21] <PriceChild> Fer, what FS?
[12:21] <PriceChild> Fer, ntfs?
[12:21] <cafuego_> awk '/^([ ] *)([0-9] +) tty6/ {print $1}'    even - need to start match from that of line :-)
[12:22] <gyaresu> !upgrade | Hydr0p0nX:
[12:22] <ubotu> Hydr0p0nX:: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:22] <holycow> Hydr0p0nX, the upgrade path, unlike debian, has not been thoroughly tested.  there is a project under way to fix this for the next set of releases
[12:22] <Fer> FS?
[12:22] <jimmygoon> !filesystem
[12:22] <Fer> hmm
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <jimmygoon> !filesystems
[12:22] <LordLimecat> !ntfs
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <PriceChild> Fer, ntfs or fat32?
[12:22] <jimmygoon> :( lame
[12:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:22] <holycow> if you do upgrade, make sure you have your stuff backed up, ther eis a very large likelyhood that your system will end up in a borked state
[12:22] <cafuego_> I suppose I should make it 1-5 digits, too
[12:22] <Hydr0p0nX> fair enough, i haven't installed yet and since I had it here thought i'd install then just update
[12:22] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: yes, but for now I'm stuck with it :( , and untill just recently, the turboprint drivers were functioning great...
[12:22] <Fer> i believe it's on NTFS
[12:23] <cafuego_> we'll leave that as an excercise for the reade
[12:23] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, i have only heard great stuff about turbo print.  your using their gui dealie for this?
[12:23] <computrius> im trying to get a prism 2.5 based card to work (dwl 520) and ive read that I need hostap
[12:23] <lesshaste> what's the command to find and install the latest security updates?
[12:23] <vox754> cafuego, how do you check for a real number like that ^[0-9] +(\.)?([0.9] *)?
[12:23] <computrius> I can only find references to it for 2.4.x
[12:23] <CorpseFeeder> holycow: yes.
[12:23] <blanky> hey in gnome do you guys know how to make it so that my firefox, when maximized, truely is maximized? right now it's in between bottom and top panels and it's really pissing me off
[12:23] <computrius> is it included in the 2.6 kernel?
[12:23] <LordLimecat> o.0 theres nothing that explains filesystem thru ubotu o.0
[12:24] <LordLimecat> is the bot a wiki?
[12:24] <holycow> speaking of upgrades, that reminds me, i'll haveto volunteer to test the upgrade path between lts releases ... currently this is a huge issue for companies
[12:24] <LordLimecat> ...so to speak?
[12:24] <gyaresu> !language | blanky
[12:24] <ubotu> blanky: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:24] <PriceChild> !bot > LordLimecat
[12:24] <blanky> gyaresu: could you help out
[12:24] <cafuego_> vox754: eh?
[12:24] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, :/  i would say that fairly well falls into their support forums ... fairly esoteric setup thats hard to help out with here
[12:24] <LordLimecat> blanky: f11
[12:24] <gyaresu> blanky: I'm not sure I understand what firefox is doing and I use fluxbox...
[12:25] <blanky> gyaresu: is what LordLimecat said to do okay?
[12:25] <vox754> cafuego_, sorry then...
[12:25] <blanky> oh LordLimecat, thanks
[12:25] <maxfeeNull> any one installd oracle on ubuntu
[12:25] <LordLimecat> blanky: its a standard firefox (and i believe IE, and opera) shortcut for linux and windows
[12:25] <jrib> blanky: you are pressing f11 to maximize?
[12:25] <maxfeeNull> or vm ware
[12:25] <Fer> and for some reason the iPv6 to ip4 is not working :(
[12:26] <Fer> and i don't want to swap to swiftfox :(
[12:26] <blanky> jrib, LordLimecat: No, I just mean, window maximize (Resize), in windows it takes up the whole screen, but in GNOME it's like, squished by the top and bottom gnome bars
[12:26] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: ive installed vmware and gotten mandriva running on it
[12:26] <LordLimecat> fer: swiftfox is nice
[12:26] <blanky> jrib, LordLimecat: did that make any sense? :(
[12:26] <jrib> blanky: yes, why not press f11?
[12:26] <Fer> but i like foxmarks sync'in my bookmarks
[12:26] <maxfeeNull> good
[12:26] <LordLimecat> blanky: yes, but when i press f11, NOTHING is visible except firefox
[12:26] <LordLimecat> lemme double check
[12:26] <blanky> jrib: becuase it's not what I meant, I don't like browsing like that
[12:27] <blanky> LordLimecat and jrib: Yeah I know what F11 does, thanks for the suggestion, but it's not what I meant
[12:27] <blanky> LordLimecat and jrib I'll look for screenshots to show you guys
[12:27] <LordLimecat> alright
[12:27] <kbrooks> gu ubuntu dudes!
[12:27] <GatoLoko> hi
[12:27] <kbrooks> hi*
[12:27] <maxfeeNull> i stucked with it and vmware workstation dosent run and switched to rhel and ill kill my pc soon?
[12:27] <LordLimecat> hey :D welcome new ubuntu person!
[12:27] <LordLimecat> \
[12:27] <GatoLoko> is there a way to tell apport to add the new info to an existing bugreport?
[12:28] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im not sure what you mean
[12:28] <LordLimecat> you put RHEL on vmware and what happened
[12:28] <Aruin> Could some 1 help me i have the nvidia driver on cd how do i install it ?
[12:28] <greff> Is there a way to create standard looking init scripts?
[12:28] <StoneNote> it tore a hole in the fabric of space time
[12:28] <LordLimecat> Aruin: is it the cd that came with your card?
[12:28] <maxfeeNull> R u installed vmware work station in non enterprise system?
[12:29] <LordLimecat> StoneNote: RHEL does that
[12:29] <PriceChild> !nvidia | Aruin (I doubt the cd contains the linux driver)
[12:29] <ubotu> Aruin (I doubt the cd contains the linux driver): To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <Aruin> no its a cd that came with Linux Format
[12:29] <Fer> !ntfs
[12:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:29] <PriceChild> Aruin, ok what form is it in?
[12:29] <StoneNote> LordLimecat, that's been my experience
[12:29] <PriceChild> Aruin, is it like a .run file?
[12:29] <computrius> agg
[12:29] <Aruin> .run
[12:29] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im using vmware viewer
[12:29] <maxfeeNull> if u r sure ill formate my disk right now and back to ubuntu
[12:29] <computrius> no matter what I do I cant get a wireless device working
[12:29] <computrius> for some reason if I modprobe ndiswrapper usbcore claims it
[12:30] <computrius> and no wlan0 device is made
[12:30] <PriceChild> Aruin, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy Use Method 2.
[12:30] <Aruin> thank you
[12:30] <posingaspopular> computrius: what didyou try
[12:30] <computrius> hostap doesnt give errors, but it doesnt make a wlan0 interface
[12:30] <kbrooks> computrius, blacklist on usbcore, but only if you dont use usb
[12:30] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: im not an expert, ask someone else before formatting
[12:30] <maxfeeNull> viewer!! i need to install windows in a virtual machine to test some progs
[12:30] <computrius> I have a usb keyboard and mouse
[12:30] <computrius> cant
[12:30] <LordLimecat> maxfeeNull: you can get the viewer to do installs
[12:31] <maxfeeNull> dont worry i have formated it 5 tims right now
[12:31] <maxfeeNull> and dont maneged to install  software i need
[12:31] <josh415> Has anyone had luck binding edgy to Active Directory?  the docs online don't quite work for me.
[12:32] <vox754> computrius, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:32] <LordLimecat> josh415: ...in what way do you mean?  ubuntu can actually pull userlists from AD?
[12:32] <josh415> LordLimecat: yes
[12:32] <LordLimecat> josh415: this is awesome news
[12:32] <josh415> LordLimecat: via LDAP & Kerberos.
[12:35] <Zambezi> I need hardware information about hdg in the terminal. lshw|grep hdg doesn't give my that much information. There's another command, but I forgot about. Anyone remember?
[12:35] <iamsam9895> !fgl
[12:35] <iamsam9895> Whoops
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <computrius> do I need to download firmware to use hostap drivers?
[12:36] <computrius> if so where do I get it
[12:36] <gyaresu> Zambezi: 'lshw | less' then /hdg
[12:36] <Hydr0p0nX> Zambezi, lshw |less :)
[12:37] <greff> It seems as thought everything in /etc/init.d/ is somewhat standard. I want to be able to create something that looks about the same. Catch my drift?
[12:37] <zapradon> I've got kind of an amusing one here...
[12:37] <gyaresu> greff: No.
[12:37] <kbrooks> HOW EXACTLY DO I patch up my ubuntu for the dst change?????????????????????????
[12:38] <Zambezi> gyaresu, Hydr0p0nX But I got to see the size of the harddrive before I format it.
[12:38] <gyaresu> greff: You want to create an init script?
[12:38] <cornell> I just did an update (from the little icon on the task bar), it spoke of locales and tzconfig.  Is this related to the DST shift?  And is my ubuntu machine taken care of?
[12:38] <PriceChild> kbrooks, you shouldn't need to
[12:38] <jimmygoon> kbrooks: download updates
[12:38] <PriceChild> cornell, probably
[12:38] <Zambezi> kbrooks, Use lowercase please.
[12:38] <szkud> are resolution problems pretty common after installs? Im not sure what I've got to do to get up to 1680 but it's driving me nuts loking at it stretched
[12:38] <jimmygoon> kbrooks: don't break your caps lock button ;)
[12:38] <holycow> !resolution
[12:38] <greff> gyaresu: Are you sure?
[12:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:38] <gyaresu> Zambezi: 'fdisk -l'
[12:38] <PriceChild> kbrooks, there's a post on planet.ubuntu.com that explains how to check.
[12:38] <cornell> Thanks PriceChild
[12:38] <PriceChild> cornell, jsut ensure your system is updated :)
[12:38] <gyaresu> greff: Do you want to create an init script? Is what I meant?
[12:39] <holycow> szarak, yes they are, the installer doesn't seem to check monitor models and makes at install and setup proper refresh rates for various monitors
[12:39] <PriceChild> cornell, and as i mentioned to kb, there's a post on planet.ubuntu.com explaining how to check
[12:39] <szkud> holycow: that's pretty common :D
[12:39] <Zambezi> gyaresu, Nothing. It's completely fresh. It doesn't have any filesystem at all.
[12:39] <holycow> szarak, as well lots of widescreen monitors out there, intel chipsets need the 915resolution fix to access the widescreen resolutions
[12:39] <greff> gyaresu: Yes, but in a way that makes it look seamlessly integrated into Ubuntu.
[12:39] <LordLimecat> Anyone know how to get the Logitech laser mice (g5, G7) back buttons working?
[12:40] <LordLimecat> also, having backspace go back a page in firefox would be nice :(
[12:40] <mdesouky> hi all
[12:40] <gyaresu> Zambezi: But you should have a line at the top of the device like "Disk /dev/sda: 300.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes"
[12:40] <holycow> szarak, and if its anything other than 1280x800 you need to pass a specific argument via 915resolution to get it to something like 1620x1024 or whatever it is
[12:40] <PriceChild> LordLimecat, type "about:config" int he nav bar and press enter
[12:40] <holycow> szarak, *nod* yeah thats the general idea tho
[12:40] <PriceChild> LordLimecat, search for "backspace" then set the back button to 1 instead of 0
[12:40] <gyaresu> greff: What are you actually trying to acheive?
[12:40] <LordLimecat> ah!
[12:41] <Zambezi> gyaresu, hdparm did it. It's the right harddrive.
[12:41] <mdesouky> would somebody be kind enough to help a first time Linux user
[12:41] <LordLimecat> and the mice? i found a howto, but it was for earlier mice, and it said "you will need to change things for g5", and did not elaborate
[12:41] <holycow> mdesouky, everyones pretty nice and the water is warm
[12:41] <greff> gyaresu: I want to have an init script that starts a process upon execution of /etc/init.d/myscript start and which stops the given process upon execution of /etc/init.d/myscript stop
[12:41] <holycow> and not because everyone peed in it
[12:41] <holycow> >_<
[12:41] <kbrooks>  o goodie, my system is all up to date
[12:41] <holycow> lol
[12:41] <holycow> mdesouky, just ask :)
[12:41] <jrib> LordLimecat: I wrote a guide for the mx1000 on the wiki, it should be very similar
[12:41] <mdesouky> thanks
[12:42] <LordLimecat> it may be yours,
[12:42] <princemackenzie> ask away mdesouky
[12:42] <LordLimecat> there was no mention of what "changes may be necessary" meant'
[12:42] <adrian_> Hello!
[12:42] <mdesouky> I have an NForce2 asus board with ubuntu Edgy on it
[12:42] <princemackenzie> cheers
[12:42] <LordLimecat> i think my question was basically, how do i find what the hex code for the side button is
[12:42] <mdesouky> I can not get sound from SPDIF for the life of me
[12:42] <computrius> is there some central location I can get firmware for different wireless cards>?
[12:42] <adrian_> any1 know where in systemsettings I can change the splashscreen?
[12:42] <nrdb> with ubuntu 6.06 my video card/monitor work no trouble, with 6.10 I allways get a 'out of sync' message from the monitor, This happens if I use the LiveCD, upgrade 6.06 or use the alternate install CD :(
[12:42] <jrib> LordLimecat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse  what do you mean by hex code?
[12:43] <princemackenzie> onboard spdif, mdesouky?
[12:43] <mdesouky> yes
[12:43] <greff> gyaresu: Hello?
[12:43] <gyaresu> greff: At boot?
[12:43] <AsusM2N-MX> whats the solution for undetected ethernet card on nforce 430/6100 chipset?
[12:43] <alecjw> computrius, i dont htink so. what firmware do you need?
[12:43] <SlickRich> hey guys I've just put in the ubuntu CD in for the first time, I haven't installed it yet but I'm having a go with it
[12:43] <mdesouky> all the search i did pointed to tweak the mixer but no luck
[12:43] <SlickRich> how do I access my windows files?
[12:43] <holycow> nrdb, refresh rates are just out of the range of your monitor ... the defaults aren't always supported.  you can change those in your xorg.conf filie from a terminal and restart gd to get back into your live cd
[12:43] <princemackenzie> AsusM2N-MX, try "modprode forcedeth" or "modprobe marvell"
[12:43] <computrius> I need firmware for dwl-520 rev e
[12:43] <jrib> LordLimecat: you can figure out the button numbers using 'xev'
[12:43] <computrius> its prism 2.5 chipset
[12:43] <AsusM2N-MX> ok princemackenzie
[12:43] <MFen> are there problems know with i/o in feisty being *extremely* slow?
[12:44] <K3nto> !partion
[12:44] <jrib> MFen: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <MFen> jrib: ty
[12:44] <LordLimecat> jrib: it was a different guide
[12:44] <alecjw> MFen, ask about feisty in #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <nrdb> holycow: I trid that by setting the range in the monitor section, and by using a modeline generated by gtf.
[12:44] <LordLimecat> and btw, ive been trying to remember xev, thanks
[12:44] <greff> gyaresu: It could be started at boot. But that's not the goal here. The goal is to write an init script based off some sort of template that some Ubuntu program might create. If you look through all of /etc/init.d/ you will notice a lot of similiarities between the files. I want my init script to have the same look and feel. Hence the desire to know if there is a program that provides such templates already.
[12:44] <SlickRich> how do you view your windows files from ubuntu?
[12:44] <alecjw> MFen, oh sorry. jrib's already lod you...
[12:44] <holycow> nrdb, wrong way.  google your monitor modeland make
[12:44] <LordLimecat> your guide looks perfect
[12:44] <holycow> >_> i know i know  :)
[12:44] <jrib> LordLimecat: all you have to do is setup evdev and then use xbindkeys (or something similar) to bind the keys accordingly
[12:44] <gyaresu> greff: You call init scripts for the runlevel. If you want a command/script called at boot then you can add a line to /etc/rc.local
[12:45] <K3nto> LordLimecat: what up dude
[12:45] <LordLimecat> yo :D
[12:45] <LordLimecat> get it working?
[12:45] <MFen> alecjw: no worries
[12:45] <PriceChild> SlickRich, ntfs or fat32 drive?
[12:45] <SlickRich> ntfs
[12:45] <greff> gyaresu: You don't get it. I want to *write* the init script, not call on one. I'll decide when I call on them later.
[12:45] <gyaresu> greff: If you want it manually called then write a script that starts a service and dump it in /usr/local/bin or if you want it time based write a cron job that runs the /usr/local/bin script...
[12:45] <PriceChild> !ntfs | SlickRich
[12:45] <K3nto> LordLimecat: nah, i gave up on WoW
[12:45] <ubotu> SlickRich: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:46] <LordLimecat> theres a ton of pros on tonight, maybe one can help :D
[12:46] <LordLimecat> dont give up on wow :(
[12:46] <mdesouky> any idea?
[12:46] <SlickRich> Cheers, I'll have a look at it
[12:46] <LordLimecat> the journeys as important as the destination
[12:46] <greff> gyaresu: The init script must have a similar template to what the other init scripts have just so it looks nice and makes sure that the code is not prone to bugs as it is based off the same template as everything else.
[12:46] <cornell> Ah... PriceChild, thank you much
[12:46] <computrius> anyone know where I can get dwl 520 e firmware?
[12:46] <cornell> Now to figure out if my knoppmyth is ready ;-)
[12:46] <greff> gyaresu: Again, I'm not asking something as trivial as how do I call an init script or how do I install an init script.
[12:47] <gyaresu> greff: So you know how to read/write scripts... What's the question?
[12:47] <K3nto> LordLimecat: yeah, i moved on to putting linux on my ipod until i get my steam back for wow
[12:47] <Jimmey> How can I mount a fat32 hdd in it's designated /media/hdb location so that it turns up on my desktop, and that I can write to it?
[12:47] <LordLimecat> alright :(
[12:47] <jrib> !vfat | Jimmey
[12:47] <ubotu> Jimmey: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:47] <cornell> TTFN... Thanks a bunch
[12:47] <bito> anyonw play age of empires 2? pvt me
[12:47] <alecjw> Jimmey, mount it with umask=0000
[12:48] <greff> grayscale: Like I've said, I want to know if there's a template from which the init scripts can be written. Is there a program that generates the init script base for you? (As in the start_process() or whatever functions)
[12:48] <greff> s/grayscale/gyaresu/
[12:48] <LordLimecat> lol
[12:48] <alecjw> !offtopic | bito
[12:49] <ubotu> bito: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <SlickRich> I've been trying to download the diskmounter script but I'm getting the error "Resolving siegie.sin.khk.be... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution."
[12:49] <AsusM2N-MX> brb, gonna try something
[12:49] <gyaresu> greff: I don't know. I imagine that it's written by the package creator. You really want to know about creating pages (it seems to me).
[12:49] <greff> gyaresu: .......................
[12:49] <Fer> ok, so my external HD is in NTFS, and it's a /dec/sda1
[12:49] <alecjw> SlickRich, i get the same problem. i think the server must be down
[12:49] <SpaceBass> anyone know a commandline bit torrent app that can do rss?
[12:49] <Fer> err, dev/sda1
[12:50] <Fer> how do i make it read/writeable ??
[12:50] <Jimmey> jrib, I tried, it's not working - It says it's mounted with "type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0001,dmask=0000)"
[12:50] <opla> puis etre assist par quelqu'un pour intaller mon premier file tar.gz sur ubuntu?
[12:50] <Jimmey> !fe
[12:50] <gyaresu> greff: s/pages/packages/
[12:50] <Jimmey> !fr
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <opla> sorry
[12:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:50] <jrib> Jimmey: what does  ls -ld /media/hdb  return?
[12:50] <alecjw> Jimmey, thats fmask and dmask. you need to use the umask=0000 option
[12:51] <greff> gyaresu: I don't think you get it still. I think I've made it pretty clear that I want something that generates a template for writing init scripts. Since all the other init scripts that Ubuntu ships with seem to have a very similar look and feel, I'm betting there is such a program. The question is plain and simple: do you know of a program that generates a template init script that seamlessly integrates in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <not_a_k> any idea why klogd would suck up all my cpu usage?
[12:51] <umarmung> greff: /etc/init.d/skeleton I guess you are looking for that
[12:51] <K3nto> !ntfs
[12:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:51] <Jimmey> jrib, drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 /media/hdb
[12:51] <greff> umarmung: Thank you! I will check that out.
[12:51] <Jimmey> alecjw, alright
[12:51] <jrib> alecjw: fmask and dmask should work too
[12:51] <K3nto> !ntfs-3g
[12:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:51] <holycow> greff, actually there isno such program
[12:51] <jrib> Jimmey: what does this return:  touch /media/hdb/iamworking
[12:51] <K3nto> sweet
[12:52] <abo> hi, ubuntu update is requesting a distribution update, what does that mean?
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, nothing
[12:52] <compengi> how can i restore shift+delete items?
[12:52] <greff> holycow: That's fine, I just want something that provides a template at least.
[12:52] <abo> is there a new ubuntu version?
[12:52] <profx> whats a good choice to install linux on, for file systems ?
[12:52] <holycow> greff, no such thing.
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: does /media/hdb/iamworking  now exist?
[12:52] <alecjw> abo, are you usign feisty?
[12:52] <profx> ext2?
[12:52] <greff> holycow: The conversation just got to the point where I couldn't really phrase it any other way.
[12:52] <Dreamax> no
[12:52] <LordLimecat> compengi: i may be wrong
[12:52] <greff> holycow: .... that's what /etc/init.d/skeleton is
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, eah
[12:52] <alecjw> profx, ext3
[12:52] <Jimmey> *yeah
[12:52] <abo> alecjw, no edgy eft
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: then you have write permissions
[12:52] <Jimmey> jrib, I see
[12:52] <alecjw> abo, and 3rd party repos?
[12:52] <LordLimecat> compengi: but from my reasearch, you really cant recover stuff gone from recycle bin in ext3
[12:52] <jrib> Jimmey: maybe reload nautilus?
[12:53] <abo> alecjw, maybe... probably yes
[12:53] <gyaresu> greff: I'm sorry. Now we both have learnt something :) /etc/init.d/skeleton
[12:53] <compengi> oh
[12:53] <compengi> damn
[12:53] <Jimmey> jrib, well, I browsed to /media/hdb, and I can't create files/folders there
[12:53] <abo> alecjw, how can I tell for sure?
[12:53] <alecjw> abo, are you sure those 3rd party repos are for edgy?
[12:53] <whonicca> is beryl compiz?
[12:53] <greff> gyaresu: For future reference, what question should I have asked to make that perfectly clear what I wanted?
[12:53] <kbrooks> LordLimecat, that's true. ext3 is a journaled filesystem, and ... hang on
[12:53] <Fer> ok, so my external HD is in NTFS, and it's a /dev/sda1
[12:53] <alecjw> abo, system>admin>software sources and go to the 3rd party repos tab
[12:53] <jrib> Jimmey: restart nautilus, it's dumb some(most?)times
[12:53] <whonicca> or is compiz a whole different thing
[12:53] <Fer> how do i make it read/writeable ??
[12:53] <Jimmey> jrib, how?
[12:53] <kbrooks> whonicca, different
[12:53] <greff> gyaresu: I wandered off on programs, but initially I was asking for 'something' that would provide a template for init scripts.
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: "Is there a template for init.d scripts?"
[12:54] <jrib> Jimmey: does closing the window and opening a new one work?
[12:54] <abo> alecjw, I haven't added repos since very long time (more than a month) ...
[12:54] <rnanaimo> /leave
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: Something like this: " greff> gyaresu: The init script must have a similar template to what the other init scripts have just so it looks nice and makes sure that the code is not prone to bugs as it is based off the
[12:54] <gyaresu>                same template as everything else.
[12:54] <Jimmey> jrib, ahh, yes. Thanks
[12:54] <Jivers> hey, i created a new group for svn users, then i added myself to that group, and it took me out of the admin group and all other groups, and only put me in that group and now i can't admin anything
[12:54] <gyaresu> greff: ;)
[12:55] <juan_> hola
[12:55] <kbrooks> Jivers, um, commands please.
[12:55] <Jivers> commands i used?
[12:55] <alecjw> !es | juan_
[12:55] <ubotu> juan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:55] <greff> Hehe, okay, I thought I just wasn't communicating properly again. SYN+ACK+FIN ;)
[12:55] <abo> alecjw, there are quite a few 3rd parties checked... all are for edgy, except some for dapper...
[12:55] <StoneNote> command: get me a cheeseburger
[12:55] <jrib> Jimmey: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then add youself back to the groups.  Use 'adduser' to add groups
[12:55] <jrib> (to your user)
[12:55] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a pendrive, but I can't. Can anybody help me, please? I get 'Missing operative system' when I try to boot the pendrive
[12:55] <LordLimecat> !botsnack | StoneNote
[12:55] <ubotu> StoneNote: Yum!
[12:56] <StoneNote> danke
[12:56] <Fer> oh wait, if my HD is in NTFS, i CAN NOT write to it just read? :(
[12:56] <alecjw> abo, disable the dapper ones. they're proably wants causing the problem. see if there are edgy version sf them to replace them. itsa always a bad idea to use repos on the wrong version of ubuntu
[12:56] <jrib> !ntfs-3g | Fer
[12:56] <ubotu> Fer: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:56] <Linux_Junkie> anyone know if turning a whole drive into ext2 without any partitions is dangerous ?
[12:56] <gravemind> hey I want to move stuff with mv but I don't want to overwrite things of the same name, is this the default behavior of mv? I don't really understand the manual
[12:56] <PriceChild> Linux_Junkie, well it has to have one partition for the ext2?
[12:56] <abo> alecjw, ok .. I'll remove the dapper ones, how can I find the edgy replacement?
[12:57] <LordLimecat> gravemind: ill find out for you, one second
[12:57] <jrib> gravemind: yes, that is default.  Checkout the -i switch maybe
[12:57] <LordLimecat> nvm
[12:57] <gravemind> LordLimecat, jrib, thanks
[12:57] <kbrooks> jrib, may i ask for a correction?
[12:57] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, of course, if you wipe youre entire hard drive, you'll lose all of your data, but it wont do any physical dmaage. and i recommend using ext3 rather htan ext2
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> PriceChild: well when i type the command it just  outputs "/dev/hdb is entire device, not just one partition!
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> Proceed anyway? (y,n) n
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> "
[12:57] <jrib> kbrooks: ok
[12:57] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g is incorrect
[12:57] <kbrooks> jrib, at the time it was beta software
[12:57] <PriceChild> Linux_Junkie, you "need" to do it to a partition. And you will lose all data ;)
[12:57] <alecjw> abo, go back to where you found them and see if htere are edgyo nes. also, try modifying htem and changin the distrobutuon to edgy
[12:57] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: i am just trying to get to the bottom of why i lost 9 gigs of spaec.
[12:58] <jrib> kbrooks: oh for the factoid.  Best discussed with the folks at #ubuntu-ops
[12:58] <soleblaze> how do you remove a package, including everything (such as files in etc)
[12:58] <Jimmey> jrib, why?
[12:58] <kbrooks> Jimmey, why what?
[12:58] <jrib> Jimmey: why what?
[12:58] <PriceChild> soleblaze, sudo apt-get remove package
[12:58] <Jimmey> jrib: ..."reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu"...
[12:58] <jrib> soleblaze: sudo aptitude purge PACKAGE
[12:58] <soleblaze> PriceChild: that leaves behind files
[12:58] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, my 200gb hard drive shrunk to 9gb once... i found out after w hile that it was becuase it melted. are you sure its still in the corrent state of matter?
[12:58] <alecjw> *correct
[12:58] <soleblaze> jrib: thanks
[12:59] <kbrooks> !ntfs-3g is incorrect because ntfs-3g is not beta anymore. (check the ntfs-3g site)
[12:59] <jrib> Jimmey: because you won't be able to add yourself to the admin group otherwise
[12:59] <not_a_k> my cpu usage is completely out of control
[12:59] <putterson> i would like to enable the thumb wheel on my logitech mx revolution mouse
[12:59] <putterson> xev will not detect any events from it
[12:59] <Jimmey> jrib, do I need to?
[12:59] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: well it's a 120 seagate and when i partition it fdisk and cfdisk points to say it has 120 but after making the whole disk 1 big partition df -h reads only 111
[01:00] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, some of it will be taken up by fielsystem
[01:00] <Jivers> my user account is no longer in the admin group
[01:00] <Jivers> how can i get root
[01:00] <jrib> Jimmey: if you want to use sudo, yes
[01:00] <Jimmey> jrib, why will that have changed?
[01:00] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw: 9 gigs seems to be a tad much for a while filesystem.
[01:00] <dimeotane> Does anyone know exactly what the /etc directory stands for?  I can't find anything for sure...  I know it's pronounced EHT-SEE... but at best someone said it stands for Everything Thats Configurable
[01:01] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: i belive it stands for et cetera
[01:01] <SlickRich> WOO! my windows partitions are working now
[01:01] <Jivers> i'm in a pinch
[01:01] <Jivers> i can't do anything anymore
[01:01] <SlickRich> I'm liking ubuntu
[01:01] <blanky> okay, good
[01:01] <alecjw> Linux_Junkie, its not :) the ext2/3 FSes are quite big
[01:01] <Huffalump> I've been using Edgy for many months and just very recently I've started to have problems where I get no sound AFTER I log in.  For example, on boot up, I hear the little drum beat when it asks me to login.  But after that, nothing.  This just started ...yesterday, I think.  But I rebooted yesterday and everything was fine.  Today, no matter how many reboots, no sound after login.
[01:01] <not_a_k> i'm disliking ubuntu :(
[01:01] <Linux_Junkie> alecjw thanks for your input
[01:02] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: i used to assume that as well, but reading around the net, ppl seem to call it ET-see
[01:02] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: have you checked the volume by opening that little volume applet?
[01:02] <Jimmey> jrib, and can't I do that without logging into recovery mode?
[01:02] <derrik> can anyone break down the main differences between ubuntu and debian?
[01:02] <Huffalump> Near the date/time?  Yes, it show master volume maximum, LordLimecat
[01:02] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: its possible "everything thats configurable" is a backronym
[01:02] <compengi> gnomefreak, hi
[01:02] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: open it, and make sure nothings muteed
[01:02] <dimeotane> calling it et cetera makes it sound like " all that other junk that doesn't fit elsewhere"  but it's actually all configuration stuff
[01:02] <GionnyBoss> I can't make a usb pendrive bootable. I tryed with syslinux -fs /dev/sdb1 but it doesn't work
[01:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok, this is kinda weird, but I can manually mount my NTFS partition, but Ubuntu recognizes it as swap
[01:02] <Huffalump> Line In, Microphone, LordLimecat
[01:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And it won't boot
[01:03] <jrib> Jimmey: only if you have some other way of getting super user privileges (another user who can sudo or access to the root account)
[01:03] <LordLimecat> dimeotane:  or it means "dns, server, and etc settings"
[01:03] <jimmygoon> not_a_k, any reason in particular?
[01:03] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: thats how i look at it o.0
[01:03] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: hah 'backronym'   I like it!
[01:03] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:03] <Jimmey> jrib, I'm in a root console now
[01:03] <Aruin> can some 1 help iv installed my new nvida driver, it speeds up my 3d graphics (i tested with a screen saver) when i exit the screen saver all my colours seem to have gone strange can some 1 help ??? how do i roll back my driver?
[01:04] <jrib> Jimmey: k, then   adduser USERNAME admin
[01:04] <not_a_k> jimmygoon
[01:04] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: any luck?
[01:04] <greff> dimeotane: There was a Slashdot article on this which linked to the original way that UNIX and BSD referred to /etc and calling it anything other than the three letter acronym that it is, is merely changing the original meaning.
[01:04] <CorpseFeeder> dimeotane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[01:04] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, microphone and Line In are muted.  That's it.  No sound.
[01:04] <Jimmey> jrib, it says I'm already a member - So is that cool?
[01:04] <compengi> LjL, hi
[01:05] <jrib> Jimmey: yeah, but I thought you were removed?
[01:05] <joe4444> should my 80gb hdd be partitioned so that the boot partition is relatively small?  the live cd partitioned it to use nearly the entire disk with just a few gb at the end for linux-swap
[01:05] <not_a_k> jimmygoon, whoops enter key bigger than I'm used to. my dislike stems from my out of control cpu usage at the moment. i have a pretty fresh/stock install of ubuntu right now
[01:05] <Jivers> my user account is no longer in the admin group!!! how can i fix this!
[01:05] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: dunno how much help i can be then :(
[01:05] <Jivers> help
[01:05] <Jimmey> jrib, naw, I think you confused me with someone else...?
[01:05] <LordLimecat> just wanted to make sure it wasnt something as simple as that, thats happened to me
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> oops, didn't realize i was already on
[01:05] <abo> what is the command to update the index after changing /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:05] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, well thanks for covering the groundwork :)  Let's see if anyone can help me figure out why the sound works when I boot up, but not after I login.
[01:05] <Jimmey> abo, sudo apt-get update
[01:06] <abo> Jimmey, cheers
[01:06] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: im mostly here to lurk and see what i can learn, but if someone has somethin simple, i figure i can help em out so that the pros can handle more people
[01:06] <dimeotane> I'm using simple backup to protect my system:  other than /home /var and /etc  what else is irreplacable and should be backed up?
[01:07] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, if I login as another user, the sound works.
[01:07] <Huffalump> The sounds works up to the login.
[01:07] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: i may have an idea o.0'
[01:07] <Aruin>  can some 1 help iv installed my new nvida driver, it speeds up my 3d graphics (i tested with a screen saver) when i exit the screen saver all my colours seem to have gone strange can some 1 help ??? how do i roll back my driver?
[01:07] <Jivers> is xchat installed by default with ubuntu?
[01:07] <Huffalump> If I login as me (my main user), there's no sound.
[01:07] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: give me a minute
[01:07] <joe4444> Jivers, it was for me
[01:07] <whonicca> is ubuntu still giving free irc classes?
[01:07] <Jivers> where is it located
[01:08] <Marupa> Dual booting question...
[01:08] <joe4444> Jivers, applications > internet
[01:08] <Marupa> If you already have ubuntu installed, is it possible to dual boot?
[01:08] <gravemind> will this command overwrite anything?
[01:08] <gravemind> sudo mv /home /media/futurehome1/futurehome/home
[01:08] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, with respect to clearing out the low-level stuff... that's great :)  I do the same on other channels.
[01:08] <Jivers> nope
[01:08] <joe4444> Jivers, you may have to check system > preferences > menu layout
[01:08] <Jivers> then what
[01:08] <kbrooks> um, is there a gnome friendly version of dialog?
[01:08] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: irc ftw
[01:09] <joe4444> Jivers, it's easy from there, just check it out
[01:09] <dimeotane> gravemind: it depents what you already have at that location... is it an empty folder?
[01:09] <pestilence> what is it that calls hdparm these days?  /etc/init.d/hdparm got removed by the upgrade to edgy
[01:09] <Jivers> lts version?
[01:09] <joe4444> Jivers, if it's not there then try Applications > Add/Remove
[01:09] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: i assume you know the basics of linux o.0
[01:09] <gravemind> dimeotane: not empty: it's basically a copy of /home with parts missing
[01:09] <Jivers> i think its because i'm not in the admin group i can't get that anymore
[01:09] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: but my hunch is to check the hidden folders in the home directory for any config that may be user specific
[01:09] <Jivers> how can i get my user back into the admin grou
[01:09] <Jivers> p
[01:10] <Jivers> i cant do crap nymore
[01:10] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: that, or your startup list
[01:10] <dimeotane> LordLimecat:  what exactly are the "basics"  I find its completely limitless  :/
[01:10] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:10] <joe4444> Jivers, i'm not sure about that but i don't think preferences requires root privilege
[01:10] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: basics means you can use the command ls without passing out
[01:10] <joe4444> add/remove will tho
[01:10] <Jivers> yeah
[01:10] <Jivers> but i need to fix this admin group problem
[01:10] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, I'm a n00b at linux but not computers.  I have no hidden folders or config in my home directory
[01:10] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, where is my start up list?
[01:10] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: press ctrl h
[01:10] <Jivers> i tried to make a new group and add myself to it and now i'm not in the admin group or any other group except my new one
[01:11] <Jivers> ubuntu has a huge bug in this regard
[01:11] <PriceChild> Huffalump, files/dirs starting with "." are hidden.
[01:11] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, I now have billions of hidden folders ;)
[01:11] <kbrooks> pestilence, unnecessary
[01:11] <Marupa> Jivers:  I don't think that's a bug.
[01:11] <jrib> Jivers: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then add youself back to the groups.  Use 'adduser' to add your user to the groups
[01:11] <joe4444> Jivers, you could start in recovery mode, which will give you root access... then usermod
[01:11] <kbrooks> pestilence, dma is enabled  somehow
[01:11] <joe4444> Jivers, no, you probably changed your default group instead of /adding/ yourself to another group...
[01:12] <gravemind> dimeotane: so will that overwrite what's already in the folder?
[01:12] <jrib> Jivers: that's default behavior for usermod, it's explained in the man page.  The "ubuntu way" would be to use  system > administration > users and groups
[01:12] <Jivers> where's the grub menu
[01:12] <alecjw> Huffalump, in linux, files or fodlers with a dot at the beginnign of their name are hidden
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: from what ive seen, the home directory is also home to configs in the same way as hkey_current_user in windows
[01:12] <kbrooks> Jivers, the canonical command: gpasswd
[01:12] <pestilence> kbrooks: ok, that's fine, but how do i set the spindown timeout?
[01:12] <Huffalump> Lord, I have all kinds of stuff.  Gaim, Mozilla, Gnome, GnuCash, and on and on
[01:12] <alecjw> Jivers, keep pressing esc aty bootup
[01:12] <alecjw> *at
[01:12] <Huffalump> However, I don't see anything that looks like it would have to do with the sound card
[01:12] <kbrooks> pestilence, no clue
[01:12] <pestilence> kbrooks: that's all i'm interested in doing...having my hard drives spin down after a while
[01:12] <jrib> Jivers: though you didn't say how you added yourself to the new group... did you use usermod or soemthing else?
[01:12] <GionnyBoss> I really need to install Ubuntu Edgy from a Pendrive, I followed the tutorial on this page ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/ ) but it doesn't work for me. Can anybody help me, please?
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: me either, just a place to look
[01:12] <dimeotane> gravemind:  dunno.. but you could avoid that by making a new folder and moving it all to that
[01:12] <Led-Hed> can anyone here help me with Apache2 on Ubuntu.  It works very differently than what I'm use to.
[01:12] <joe4444> Jivers, reboot and keep pressing ESC after you see your BIOS summary... it only gives you 1-2 seconds and most of the time i never see the option
[01:12] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: it certainly is user specific
[01:13] <gravemind> dimeotane: yeah, I just didn't want to have to move all those 30 GBs again]
[01:13] <Kyral> Led-Hed: You can thank Debian for that
[01:13] <Jivers> ok trying
[01:13] <pestilence> Led-Hed: ask
[01:13] <Jivers> usermod -g [group]  [username]
[01:13] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, definitely specific to this user.  And only in the past day when all was well before and I've (not knowingly) changed or installed anything.
[01:13] <joe4444> Jivers, for future reference, i like "sudo gpasswd -a username groupname"
[01:13] <jimmygoon> not_a_k, what _have_ you installed so faR
[01:13] <Kyral> He probably means the wierd ass module thing
[01:14] <joe4444> Jivers, that won't change the user's /default/ group
[01:14] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: honestly, someone else will know better than me, but i just like trying to muddle through it on my own
[01:14] <Huffalump> Is there a:  sudo /etc/something/init.d/alsasomething restart ?
[01:14] <Jivers> ok i'm in recovery mode
[01:14] <LordLimecat> I find you learn a lot when you break and fix stuff yer self
[01:14] <dimeotane> gravemind: try a test with a folder with a small file and do a mv to move the file to see what happens.. .  you probably don't want 30gb of duplicate files either though
[01:14] <Led-Hed> I'm getting an error regarding 'AuthMySQLEnable On'.  I have installed the auth_mysql package and enabled it via a2enmod. am I missing something?
[01:14] <bruenig> Huffalump, you should ask crimsun, he knows a lot about alsa
[01:14] <joe4444> Jivers, try "gpassword -a username groupname"
[01:14] <Huffalump> LordLimecat, not when your woman wants to watch a movie ;)
[01:14] <LordLimecat> nothing teaches you the value of (forgive the win reference) the registry like deleting it
[01:14] <LordLimecat> lol
[01:14] <gravemind> dimeotane: too late, already ran the command : ) just have to wait and see now
[01:14] <joe4444> should my 80gb hdd be partitioned so that the boot partition is relatively small?  the live cd partitioned it to use nearly the entire disk with just a few gb at the end for linux-swap
[01:15] <Jivers> admin as the groupname?
[01:15] <kbrooks> testing
[01:15] <joe4444> Jivers, if that's the proper group
[01:15] <gravemind> joe4444: it depends on whether or not you will dual boot eventually
[01:15] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: id ask someone else, but ima keep lookin through stuff to find anythin related to soundcard
[01:15] <Jivers> what other groups should i be in, since i screwed it all up
[01:15] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: also, there IS a system log
[01:15] <Jivers> by default what groups do i need to be in
[01:16] <gravemind> joe4444: if you only want to use ubuntu on that machine, that's a save partitioning choice
[01:16] <joe4444> gravemind, nope i really doubt it... i'm dropping windows for good
[01:16] <joe4444> ok, thanks
[01:16] <LordLimecat> Huffalump: wanna try something.
[01:16] <Huffalump> good idea, thanks, LordLimecat
[01:16] <LordLimecat> system-->prefs-->sound
[01:16] <LordLimecat> whats it set on
[01:16] <Led-Hed> pestilence or Kyral; I'm getting an error regarding 'AuthMySQLEnable On'.  I have installed the auth_mysql package and enabled it via a2enmod. am I missing something?
[01:17] <Kyral> dunno
[01:17] <Kyral> I compiled my own Apache
[01:17] <pestilence> Led-Hed: how about in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[01:17] <joe4444> Jivers, these are the groups my default user was automatically added to: joe4444 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[01:18] <joe4444> ...not really sure why tho =)
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: that directory contains symlinks to modules in /etc/apache2/mods-available, and loads them if you link them
[01:18] <Led-Hed> pestilence, there is a link to auth_mysql.load
[01:18] <Huffalump> Autodetect
[01:18] <Jivers> sweet
[01:18] <joe4444> i'm used to new users only being in their own group
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: hmmm
[01:18] <LordLimecat> try oss?
[01:18] <LordLimecat> and hit test?
[01:18] <Huffalump> The system log is gibberish to me... I mean, I recognize some lines... but...
[01:18] <Huffalump> Tests fail.
[01:18] <joe4444> "bob" is just in "bob" and nothing else unless i say so
[01:18] <pestilence> Led-Hed: what's the error?
[01:18] <LordLimecat> dunno then :(
[01:18] <Huffalump> Yap, damn.  Back to Windows.
[01:18] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Ok, so basically my ntfs partition became swap, but I can still mount it as ntfs
[01:18] <LordLimecat> at this point id probably go play a game
[01:18] <LordLimecat> or use another use
[01:18] <Huffalump> I'll be back here tomorrow to figure it out.
[01:18] <LordLimecat> r
[01:18] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Why back to windows?
[01:19] <Huffalump> Thanks for your effort, LordLimecat.
[01:19] <LordLimecat> i suck :(
[01:19] <Led-Hed> pestilence, Invalid command 'AuthMySQLEnable'
[01:19] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe because the sound works fine there and the girl wants to watch her movie.
[01:19] <LordLimecat> honestly, tho, ask someone else, theyll know
[01:19] <pestilence> Led-Hed: where do you get this error?
[01:19] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: DVD? What kinda sound card? Like, I need to know what's wrong
[01:19] <Led-Hed> if I run: apache2    from the command line
[01:19] <knovak> how do I scan for new printers on my system? because my printer works fine (prints test pages), but Ubuntu doesnt see it when I go into printer config
[01:20] <knovak> and all attempts to set it up manually have failed.
[01:20] <Jivers> how to remove from a group
[01:20] <Led-Hed> pestilence, I get a SIGTERM error if I load from init script
[01:20] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, when I boot up... I hear the drum sound.  After logging in, there is only silence.  As a test, I created a new user just now and switched to it... and it has sound.
[01:20] <joe4444> Jivers, i can't recall... check out man usermod
[01:20] <joe4444> actually nvm
[01:20] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: You probally have something muted. Make sure EVERYTHING is unmuted.
[01:20] <joe4444> it's "sudo gpasswd -d username groupname"
[01:21] <pestilence> Led-Hed: did you look at what's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/whatever.load?
[01:21] <GionnyBoss> I'm desperate! I want to install Ubuntu Edgy from a Pendrive on a laptop with no CD-ROM (it doesn't work). I followed this guide ( http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/ ) but it doesn't work. Can anybody help me, please?
[01:21] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I have now unmuted Line In and Microphone.  Still nothing.
[01:21] <sdk56565> some now how excute a shell in unbunt
[01:21] <pestilence> Led-Hed: i have no idea, basically
[01:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: That's because those are the wrong things :P
[01:21] <sdk56565> '?????????????????????
[01:21] <abo> the ubuntu update is saying that I should run "distribution upgrade".. I removed in the source.list all references to dapper, I left only edgy ones... any ideas?
[01:21] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I do not see anything else muted.
[01:21] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Unmute EVERYTHING and jack everything UP
[01:22] <Led-Hed> pestilence, np.  thanks for the help
[01:22] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, done.  No change.
[01:22] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Sure your apps are set to output sound?
[01:22] <roorah> hi
[01:22] <jimmygoon> sdk56565, are you trying to open a terminal?
[01:23] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, I'm not quite sure what that means.  For example, I am testing with VLC at the moment.
[01:23] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Like, is the application's volume set all the way up?
[01:23] <Huffalump> maximum
[01:23] <joe4444> Jivers, any luck?
[01:23] <Huffalump> speakers are loud enough to wake the neighbors
[01:23] <jimmygoon> sdk56565, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:23] <Jivers> yup works
[01:24] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Ok, go back to the sound thing, go to File > Change Device and tell me what you see
[01:24] <joe4444> cool, just be sure to use gpasswd -a from now on
[01:24] <joe4444> it's a little more straight-forward than usermod b/c it's only for changing group members
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, NVidia, Audigy, and Realtek
[01:25] <Jivers> how to reboot from the console
[01:25] <joe4444> sudo reboot
[01:25] <gkokaisel> ok, when I hover over any icon or window that is minimized to the toolbar it has a hover state that says what it is...i know what it is, so it really annoys me. How do i get rid of that? Please
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Which is set to use?
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, set to nVidia.  I just tried Audigy, no change.
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Try Realtek
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And make sure EVERYTHING is set up, when you change devices things can vary
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> If you get no luck there, see what settings your other user has
[01:25] <jeeves__> has anyone installed "second life" on Ubuntu yet?
[01:25] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And try setting with those
[01:25] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, Realtek only has one setting optio for volume.  It's no change.
[01:26] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, will check the other user and come back
[01:26] <gkokaisel> i have...it quits after like 10 min
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Kk
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I can play halo on ubuntu! tehe
[01:26] <jeeves__> second life?  anyone?
[01:26] <gkokaisel> i have sl it quits after 10 minutes of play time
[01:26] <gkokaisel> know idea why
[01:26] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What's second life?
[01:26] <GionnyBoss> please can anyone help me making this ubuntu edgy installation bootable on a usb pendrive? I can't boot from pendrive even if I tryed syslinux... I'm desperate
[01:26] <rever> Hi I just installed Feisty Fawn from Edgy. I use to be able to hit <tab> to have the command finish typing. It works but does not if I do $sudo <command>
[01:27] <jeeves__> biscuitian_warhe:  oh?  how'd you do that?
[01:27] <rever> Is there a config file I need to fix
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: no cd patch with wine 0.9.31 (feisty comes with latest, I just did compile)
[01:27] <gkokaisel> I just went to their site and downloaded it and followed instructions its real easy. but it not work well
[01:27] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, set to nVidia
[01:27] <gkokaisel> alpha version for linux
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Using the -novideo parameter gives best performance
[01:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Feisty is stable enough in my opinion :P
[01:28] <xenalise> Hey... Has anyone had problems with lighttpd + squirrelmail + postfix/courier?
[01:28] <jeeves__> Biscuitian_Warhe:  well, when they get HalfLife and Counter Strike source to work, call me.
[01:28] <AmaroqWolf> My firefox crashes when I try to make to link to java's plugin so in firefox's plugins folder. I haven't done this in a while, and I have to do so since I installed <IP_ADDRESS>. I suspect that I might be trying to do the wrong java plugin. What's the location of the .so that I should link to in firefox's plugins folder?
[01:28] <suttner> hi
[01:28] <profx> so there are two screens leading me into ubuntu, the first, has a progress bar, it reaches the end, then freezes, anything I can do to troubleshoot it, besides installing another OS?
[01:28] <gkokaisel> apt-get install java6 something like that is all I did
[01:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: Can you jsut use that user instead?
[01:28] <xenalise> I can login no problems, but get errors when the frames load for "Query: SUBSCRIBE INBOX.Sent" and "Query: SELECT INBOX" "Reason given: Unable to open mailbox" :|
[01:28] <Huffalump> lol
[01:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Huffalump: without going into your sys I dunno what's up
[01:29] <Huffalump> Well, I appreciate the help.  I thought it was a good idea to check the other user, actually.
[01:29] <Huffalump> Biscuitian_Warhe, thanks for trying.
[01:29] <Huffalump> You, too, Limecat
[01:29] <LordLimecat> :(
[01:29] <LordLimecat> dammit, i wanted to know what was wrong
[01:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Lol, did it come out with audio when you first set it up?
[01:30] <profx> why is ubuntu this hard to install?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> Biscuitian_Warhe: (07:29:38 PM) Huffalump left the room (quit: "=p").
[01:30] <profx> is it because I have a Nvidia card?
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: I can't see everything
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> :P
[01:30] <gkokaisel> anyone know how to remove hover comments over icons and windows?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> just lettin you know :D
[01:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: It's not hard to install
[01:30] <profx> really?
[01:30] <profx> prove it?
[01:30] <LordLimecat> we installed it o.0
[01:30] <LordLimecat> was a piece of cake o.0
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:31] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[01:31] <LordLimecat> do you mean installing drivers?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Reboot
[01:31] <profx> your all geniuses
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And then
[01:31] <LordLimecat> profx: i just started using ubuntu
[01:31] <crimsun> profx: it's more difficult on some hardware.
[01:31] <profx> Biscuitian_Warhe: why?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Well before rebooting run......
[01:31] <AmaroqWolf> profx: maybe your system doesn't have the resources. What kind of specs you have?
[01:31] <jeeves__> can anyone help me remove the splash screen from the boot?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Ubuntu doesn't install the binary nvidia by default, because they don't believe in proprietary solutions
[01:31] <engard> hi, all
[01:31] <profx> well, do I have to use a new CD this time?
[01:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Why it's sexy
[01:31] <profx> this is the second one, same results
[01:32] <Led-Hed> pestilence, does auth_mysql require a auth_mysql.conf?  some of the modules have .conf's but not all
[01:32] <engard> anyone have experience getting wireless cards to work in ubuntu?
[01:32] <bruenig> jeeves__, just edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and take off the splash
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: No, just do the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:32] <profx> Biscuitian_Warhe: I have no OS
[01:32] <gkokaisel> go to google type ubuntu how to and its there jeeves
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> engard: Not really, what kind do you use
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Err, how are you doing this then?
[01:32] <jeeves__> Biscuitian_Warhe:  no it isn't.  I want to see it boot, not the splash.
[01:32] <profx> so that would mean your info is disregarded
[01:32] <salty> i use wireless
[01:32] <profx> not the sharpest tool in the shed
[01:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: You're really confusing me....
[01:32] <engard> Biscuitian_Warhe: I've got a broadcom of some sort, in a dell laptop
[01:33] <profx> maybe you need to stop listening then
[01:33] <jeeves__> bruenig:  thanks.  I'll look into it.
[01:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> engard: Eww, you'd have to look that up, that might be the ndiswrapper setup
[01:33] <gkokaisel> jeeves: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/     on this site
[01:33] <profx> so i keep freezing as ubuntu loads
[01:33] <jrib> !enter | profx
[01:33] <ubotu> profx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:33] <jrib> Rei-chan: this one
[01:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: You mean old fashioned text installer?
[01:33] <LordLimecat> profx: when you first boot, do a cd check
[01:33] <jeeves__> bruenig:  I don't see a "menu.list" file
[01:33] <profx> its not the CD
[01:34] <profx> it installed fine
[01:34] <salty> i'm on the alternate install
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Yay. :) I'm currently on a Command Line Gentoo box, and this thing needs Ubuntu.
[01:34] <profx> its bootin into the OS that doesnt work
[01:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Since its got less than 128MB RAM, I am grabbing the Alternate Install CD, whatever that is.
[01:34] <LordLimecat> theres a way to view where it went wrong, i know that much.....
[01:34] <profx> jrib, if you dont have anything productive to say, then pls dont direct comments/suggestions to me
[01:34] <jrib> profx: expand on "doesn't work"
[01:34] <profx> thanks
[01:34] <crimsun> profx: take a digital photo of the boot sequence with recovery mode
[01:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: oh ok, what do you need help with it?
[01:34] <profx> sure, a digital photo, easy
[01:34] <Rei-chan> Is there anything important I need to know?
[01:34] <LordLimecat> but, jrib, didnt someone else have that problem fixed with an acpi workaround?
[01:35] <profx> crimsun: what the h are you talking about?
[01:35] <Rei-chan> Like, say, "Ubuntu will not work with 96 MB of RAM"
[01:35] <jrib> LordLimecat: I have no idea what the problem is, I just know it "doesn't work"
[01:35] <salty> alternate install to command line was a breeze
[01:35] <crimsun> profx: if you say that booting doesn't work, then I want a picture of where it fails.
[01:35] <jrib> Rei-chan: well GNOME might not be too pleasant, but you can probably use xfce
[01:35] <jrib> !xubuntu | Rei-chan
[01:35] <ubotu> Rei-chan: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: right, right. i've used ubuntu so long so I cant' stand the desktop install.
[01:36] <alienseer23> anybody help me with lirc? I have absolutely no idea how to set this up
[01:36] <PiNE> does anyone know what this warning means:  audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Resource busy or not available.
[01:36] <salty> i have a laptop with 355mhz cpu and 64mb ram and it works like a charm
[01:36] <profx> on the loading screen, right before entering the OS, at the progress meter
[01:36] <Rei-chan> Hmm, yeah, xfce is probably the est bed.
[01:36] <Rei-chan> Under what, salty? GNOME or xfce?
[01:36] <profx> freezes as it approaches the end
[01:36] <salty> fluxbox but use xfce first
[01:37] <crimsun> profx: so boot in recovery mode (choose it in the boot menu), and take a photograph of it. Your describing doesn't help. We need the actual text.
[01:37] <Jeruvy> whats the best way to get a terminal or editor to work in 'root' mode?  I hate having to start 'gedit' from the command line constantly?
[01:37] <jeeves__> anyone?  Second life setup in Ubunut?
[01:37] <profx> there is no text
[01:37] <gkokaisel> sudo
[01:37] <profx> its just this screen, thats it
[01:37] <crimsun> profx: of course there's text IN THE MENU ENTRY I told you.
[01:37] <nutterpc> easy way to find whats causing it, edit the menu.lst to take out splash..............then you can see what text it hangs on
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: you shouldn't need a text editor in "root mode" that often, something is wrong if you do
[01:38] <mg__> =
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: just download the binary, extract, and run it
[01:38] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: Second life as in www.secondlife.com?
[01:38] <crimsun> profx: obviously if you boot into the 'normal' entry, you'll get the graphical usplash that hides text. That's why I told you to use the recovery mode that does not use that graphical usplash.
[01:38] <jrib> Jeruvy: you shouldn't need a text editor in "root mode" that often, something is wrong if you do
[01:38] <jeeves__> jrib: ???  what are you talking about?
[01:38] <Jeruvy> jrib: well I'm doing a lot of experimentation, and it's Jeruvy not Jeeves :)
[01:38] <profx> recovery == verbose
[01:38] <jrib> jeeves__: ignore my first comment to you, sorry
[01:39] <crimsun> profx: yes, that's intentional.
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh second life has an alpha linux client!
[01:39] <jeeves__> biscuitian_warhe:  yep, that's the one.  I'm on a VERY slow connection here, so It'll take the better part of an hour to get a 30Mb file
[01:39] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Does SL have a Linux client yet? Or are you asking about WINE installation?
[01:39] <jeeves__> jrib:  ok, I'm guessing it wasn't ment for me?
[01:39] <jrib> jeeves__: right
[01:39] <profx> ok, at a prompt
[01:39] <gkokaisel> yes but its super alpha rei-chan
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> jeeves__: I don't see any luck with the wine method
[01:39] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But the client is your best bet
[01:40] <crimsun> profx: which prompt? Describe it, or take a digital photo and post it (even better)
[01:40] <jeeves__> Rei-chan:  they "claim" to have a alpha client currently.
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> why would I receive "Buffer I/O error on device hdb: logical block 'some number'", when trying to overwrite a fedora partition with a brand new Ubuntu install, which a dual booting 64bit Windows machine ?
[01:40] <Jeruvy> so getting back to the answer for my question, I'd like to shortcut this.
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> which = with
[01:40] <PiNE> i have checked google and the forums and can't find anything related to my sound warning, i would really like some help with it.
[01:40] <profx> so my X must not be working with my nvidia card maybe?
[01:40] <jeeves__> Bisuitian_warhe:  well, from what I see, it dosen't like my M$ box either.  it's slow, choppy, etc.  I'd like to know how they made their "grid" though
[01:40] <ioerror> I'm trying to use preseeding and I can't seem to get shell commands to execute during the d-i preseed/late_command stage
[01:40] <CaptainMorgan> googling the error shows a hardware failure, but isn't specific
[01:40] <quiketaz> who is testing fesity ?
[01:40] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Welcome to Second Life.
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Assuming you use gentoo, I'll assume you're pretty savy. I have a NTFS part, but linux sees it as swap, but everything is there right
[01:41] <crimsun> profx: quite probably. Which Nvidia card is it?
[01:41] <jrib> Jeruvy: gksudo gedit  in a launcher maybe?  But in that case you should just keep the first one open while you experiment
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I'm testing Feisty!
[01:41] <rower> hello.. /q me, im installing ati graphic card..
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I consider it stable :P
[01:41] <profx> crimsun: root@host:/# command prompt
[01:41] <rower> need help
[01:41] <crimsun> PiNE: use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and pastebin the info
[01:41] <profx> a standard command prompt
[01:41] <quiketaz> I'm testing with dell latitude d600
[01:41] <crimsun> PiNE: then tell me the URL.
[01:41] <quiketaz> but my video is slow
[01:41] <rower> need help confing ati graphic card..
[01:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> quiketaz: Video card?
[01:41] <jeeves__> Rei-chan:  thanks.  I'm not sure how to do anything in it though.  the company I work for does ads for real world places in it.
[01:41] <ioerror> In addition, I wanted two extra packages to install and they don't seem to installwith d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server
[01:41] <quiketaz> rowe wich model?
[01:41] <ioerror> I'm using 6.06LTS
[01:41] <Jeruvy> jrib: bah, I'm doing that already.
[01:41] <Rei-chan> jeeves__: Unfortunately, the more people on a grid, the choppier it gets.
[01:42] <rower> quiketaz: ati radeon x700 pro..
[01:42] <crimsun> profx: right, so which Nvidia card is it (as I just asked)?
[01:42] <jrib> Jeruvy: I don't understand what you want then
[01:42] <PiNE> crimsun, thanks i am checking into that right now.
[01:42] <jeeves__> Rei-Chan:  that's a given though.
[01:42] <Rei-chan> Well, will be.
[01:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: No it's any linux box, windows refuses to boot (no error) and other apps seeing it as ntfs
[01:42] <LordLimecat> jrib: from a comment you made earlier, i take it you dont think sudo gedit /etc/somefile is a good idea?
[01:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Arch linux is nice :P
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> 1k+ users.. nice!
[01:42] <Newish> Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on how I might get the back button on my mouse to work un Edgy?
[01:42] <jrib> LordLimecat: no, that's fine.  Which comment?
[01:43] <jrib> !mouse | Newish
[01:43] <ubotu> Newish: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:43] <LordLimecat> about " if you need a text editor in root mode...."
[01:43] <rower> can someone get me quickhelp with ati graphic config
[01:43] <acoward> ~/quit
[01:43] <rower> aticonfig section
[01:43] <profx> looking for the answer, one sec
[01:43] <rower> what to write..
[01:43] <arrenlex> !ati | rower
[01:43] <jrib> LordLimecat: oh, yeah, it's not the kind of think you should be doing so often that typing sudo is a burden imo
[01:43] <ubotu> rower: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:43] <LordLimecat> ah
[01:43] <ivanhoe> execuse me  how can i enter at internet with ubutu with fax modem
[01:44] <ivanhoe> internal
[01:44] <LordLimecat> jrib, you seem to be the expert on things here
[01:44] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Hmm. That's... very odd. Unfortunately I'm not sure what's going on. Have you examined the partition to verify its actually an NTFS partition?
[01:44] <rower> ubotu: well kinda already installed them.. now it states that it could be usefull to run aticonfig..
[01:44] <LordLimecat> i have a few issues that are quite odd o.0
[01:44] <LordLimecat> the first one is possibly not an issue'
[01:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Well in gparted it comes up as an 82 gigabyte swap partition set to boot
[01:44] <arrenlex> rower: That guide gives you information about how to configure.
[01:44] <jrib> LordLimecat: nah, not really
[01:44] <aron> who can help me i need to unrar something and i dont know how
[01:44] <rower> thanx
[01:44] <jrib> !unrar | aron
[01:44] <ubotu> aron: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression.  You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:44] <posingaspopular> !language
[01:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:45] <LordLimecat> well, they are the kind of issues that im sure noone will feel like trying to troubleshoot unless i ask someone specifically
[01:45] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Wow. That's... wtf. It should know its an NTFS partition.
[01:45] <salty> rower try the ubuntu guide
[01:45] <arrenlex> PriceChild: When you say something long to ubotu, he pms you to say he is a bot.
[01:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: do you think it's a partition table issue?
[01:46] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: I'd verify with fdisk that its actually set to NFTS, yes. I'm kinda grasping at straws, I've never seen anything like that. Every box I've had knew that a certain partition was either FAT or NTFS based.
[01:46] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Since multiple boxes think its swap instead of NTFS, I'd say its the partition and not the linux software.
[01:46] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: See, with the latest wines I can play all my games (halo, guild wars, cod2, etc)
[01:46] <joe4444> should a 2nd hard disk be mounted in /mnt/ or in the root?
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: So yeah, i just wanna vmware itunes
[01:47] <rower> salty: well im not in x so its a problem
[01:47] <arrenlex> !amarok | Biscuitian_Warhe
[01:47] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: Yeah, when I rebuild my normal PC, I plan to throw wine on and boom, run em.
[01:47] <ubotu> Biscuitian_Warhe: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[01:47] <LordLimecat> joe4444: AFAIK, disks are generally mounted in /media/afolderyouname
[01:47] <aron> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[01:47] <Biscuitian_Warhe> arrenlex: Last time I check Amarok doesn't have the iTMS
[01:47] <joe4444> LordLimecat, i thought that was for removeable media like CDs, DVDs, and USB keys
[01:48] <Rei-chan> Biscuitian_Warhe: You own an iPod and use iTunes store to buy stuff, don't you?
[01:48] <arrenlex> Biscuitian_Warhe: Oh no! How ever will you get drm-encumbered media in a proprietary format now?!
[01:48] <crimsun> Rei-chan: better. It supports magnatune.
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: I'm more of a banshee person myself, though I heard songbird is good
[01:48] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Rei-chan: Yup
[01:48] <salty> using wireless while sailing is kinda flighty
[01:48] <LordLimecat> joe4444: i DO remember once umpon a time being told to mount stuff in /mnt, but the guides ive seen say mount in /media
[01:48] <LordLimecat> and i have 3-4 ntfs drives mounted in /media
[01:48] <crimsun> LordLimecat: FHS.
[01:48] <joe4444> crimsun, that's what i was reading just now...
[01:48] <aron> sudo apt-get install unrar does not work
[01:49] <crimsun> !unrar
[01:49] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:49] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But not EVERY company will see to magnatune seeing as they don't want to use DRM to protect the companies music from the 3000 pirates in the world
[01:49] <aron> !info unrar-free
[01:49] <profx> well now
[01:49] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:49] <nutterpc> i must be one of the lucky ones, no problems at all with my linux install, hehehe :)
[01:49] <profx> its an ATI card
[01:49] <Zambezi> Is EXT3 slow copying files between two harddrives?
[01:49] <nblracer> need help on setting up a network. between windows and linux. On the linux PC i can see all the files shared on the window pc, but cant read them
[01:49] <LordLimecat> crimsun: well, most guides, including the ubuntuguides wiki, say mount in /media
[01:49] <profx> all this time I thought it was Nvidia
[01:49] <crimsun> profx: so you need to follow the fglrx instructions, then
[01:49] <joe4444> crimsun, it doesn't seem to indicate where a internal hdd should be mounted b/c it says /mnt/ is for temporary mounts and /media/ is for removeable media, so...?
[01:49] <boci^> http://rafb.net/p/ac8IT532.html
[01:49] <boci^> any idea?
[01:49] <PriceChild> Zambezi, ext3 is a slow filesystem according to many... however its extremely reliable
[01:50] <profx> fglrx?
[01:50] <crimsun> profx: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:50] <profx> so what do I do from command line?
[01:50] <crimsun> profx: under the ATI section, there's a walk-through
[01:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> fglrx sucks xD
[01:51] <Zambezi> PriceChild, I took it because it's stable. Thanks for answer.
[01:51] <joe4444> profx, i suggest Envy... just google: envy linux ...should be the 3rd or 4th link
[01:51] <PriceChild> !envy joe4444 profx
[01:51] <PriceChild> !envy | joe4444 profx
[01:51] <ubotu> joe4444 profx: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[01:51] <Rei-chan> Price, what's that channel for Beryl and other cool stuff?
[01:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Beryl!
[01:51] <PriceChild> Rei-chan, #ubuntu-effects
[01:51] <joe4444> PriceChild, ?
[01:51] <posingaspopular> #beryl
[01:52] <PriceChild> joe4444, means you don't have to search for the url ;)
[01:52] <joe4444> PriceChild, oh =)
[01:52] <salty> i'm sorry if i don't answer directly but i'm sailing and my connection to the internet comes and goes
[01:53] <joe4444> sailing?
[01:53] <salty> yep
[01:53] <erstazi> a'hoy mate
[01:53] <PiNE> crimsun, i was going to give you some long winded details about my situation but, although i don't fully understand them, i think this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9544/  will be way more comprehensive then anything i would have said!.
[01:53] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Yeargh!
[01:53] <salty> hence the name salty
[01:53] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:54] <crimsun> PiNE: so your audio in inaudible?
[01:54] <crimsun> s/in/is/
[01:54] <PiNE> crimsun, yep except in rhythmbox and listen music player.
[01:54] <joe4444> so... is there a standard location to mount extra internal hard disks?
[01:54] <crimsun> joe4444: /media
[01:54] <theherbalizer> i need help understanding this error:  ""configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0    libpanelapplet2-0 >= 2.0.0) were not met. Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.""
[01:55] <joe4444> crimsun, so /media/ isn't exclusively for removeable media?
[01:55] <LordLimecat> PiNE: what audio players do NOT work--what have you tried
[01:55] <crimsun> PiNE: are you using Software Sound Mixing (in System> Preferences> Sound) ?
[01:55] <erstazi> joe4444: nope
[01:55] <joe4444> k, thanks
[01:55] <crimsun> joe4444: no, it's not.
[01:55] <erstazi> joe4444: even other partitions
[01:55] <PiNE> crimsun, all system sounds do not work. vlc, mplayer, totem and amorok all do not work
[01:56] <joe4444> the FHS says "Mount points for removable media such as CD-ROMs" so i wasn't sure
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: ok, start by unmuting 'Master' and muting 'IEC958'
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: the essential question is whether you want to use your onboard or your usb
[01:56] <crimsun> PiNE: currently the default audio device is the onboard, not the usb
[01:57] <PiNE> crimsun, i want it to be the usb
[01:57] <xenalise> Anyone here have any experience with squirrelmail + courier/postfix?
[01:57] <crimsun> PiNE: in a Terminal, execute:  asoundconf set-default-card UA25
[01:57] <crimsun> PiNE: then, log out and back in
[01:58] <|Jason8|> !ntfs
[01:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <|Jason8|> hrm.
[01:58] <|Jason8|> yay.
[01:58] <dimeotane> How can I make ubuntu ask for confirmation when I push my delete key in nautilus.  It's too easy to accentally hit that key and delete something important
[01:58] <PiNE> crimsun, okay i'll give that a try. see you soon!
[01:58] <|Jason8|> Where can I adjust the Ubuntu swap file size?
[01:59] <jrib> dimeotane: you want it to do that even though it just moves the file to Trash?
[01:59] <theherbalizer> i need help understanding this error:  ""configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0    libpanelapplet2-0 >= 2.0.0) were not met. Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.""
[01:59] <|Jason8|> it's not windows! :p
[01:59] <dimeotane> |Jason8|: I don't know for sure.. but I'll bet you need to use gparted to do it
[01:59] <|Jason8|> gparted?  hrm.
[02:00] <facugaich> theherbalizer, check you've got those packages installed and at least that version
[02:00] <theherbalizer> i do
[02:00] <crimsun> theherbalizer: install libpanel-applet2-dev
[02:00] <facugaich> theherbalizer, yeah, -dev versions
[02:00] <theherbalizer> durp
[02:00] <dimeotane> jrib: I guess it is still only moved to the trash.. but I find a file got moved there without me knowing.... I touched that little key accidentally
[02:01] <joe4444> is it possible to eliminate the page file (or partition)?
[02:01] <nblracer> need help on setting up a network. between windows and linux. On the linux PC i can see all the files shared on the window pc, but cant read them
[02:01] <crimsun> joe4444: certainly.
[02:01] <dimeotane> |Jason8|: it's a swap partition in ubuntu.. not a swap file like windows
[02:01] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Oh yeah, with Feisty, I can actually enable compiz (desktop-effects) on my notebook (i810) and no lag at all!
[02:01] <crimsun> dimeotane: we support swap files, too, in feisty.
[02:01] <LordLimecat> Biscuitian_Warhe: know what REALLY rocks?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: What!?!
[02:02] <LordLimecat> having compiz AND beryl both installed o.0
[02:02] <joe4444> crimsun, just kill it with gparted, and then extend the boot partition to make use of the extra space?
[02:02] <dimeotane> feisty is sounding more and more cool. I can't wait!
[02:02] <crimsun> joe4444: if that's what you desire, sure.
[02:02] <LordLimecat> you can switch back and forth @ will
[02:02] <|Jason8|> dimeotane, okay.  Can I make it larger?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> LordLimecat: Beryl won't play nice on my laptop, though I'm mad feisty won't have slickboot!!
[02:02] <crimsun> joe4444: caution, of course, for any partitioning movement
[02:02] <LordLimecat> also, kibadock is the greatest thing since....well
[02:02] <LordLimecat> ever
[02:02] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: whats the diff betweeen compiz and beryl?
[02:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> beryl = commnunity
[02:03] <martalli> compiz is the original and beryl is the fork
[02:03] <theherbalizer> suh-weet, that worked
[02:03] <LordLimecat> compiz has a nice flame effect, but more technically, compiz is more stable, and according to some, beryl is teh devil
[02:03] <theherbalizer> thanks all
[02:03] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:03] <joe4444> crimsun, i'm just thinking that since i'm about to upgrade from 512mb to 2gb RAM a swap partition isn't necessary... or is that a poor assumption?
[02:03] <OMGLAZERS> !nvidia
[02:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Beryl works well with the proprietary drivers in my opinion
[02:03] <malik_> man
[02:03] <Aruin> could some 1 help how do i play dvd on ubuntu ?
[02:03] <malik_> linux is crazy
[02:03] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: I have 1.5 and it never accese my swap
[02:03] <pestilence> !dvd
[02:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:03] <cafuego_> LordLimecat: One of those "some" would like to point out compiz is the devil, too.
[02:03] <theherbalizer> joe4444: are you running low on hdd space?
[02:03] <LordLimecat> beryl is apparently a "fork" off of compiz which is focused on rapid development, not, according to some, to "proper" development
[02:03] <joe4444> theherbalizer, no...
[02:03] <LordLimecat> i really dont know the truth of that
[02:04] <theherbalizer> joe4444: well, then i'd say that swap never hurts
[02:04] <crimsun> joe4444: a swap partition is still necessary if you plan to use suspend-to-disk, for instance.
[02:04] <cafuego_> joe4444: *any* swap at all will *always* result in better overall performance than none.
[02:04] <LordLimecat> regardless, beryl has some flashier effects, but honestly, compiz is out of the box nicer looking
[02:04] <pestilence> cafuego_: even with infinite RAM?
[02:04] <LordLimecat> however, beryl has a really nice theme manager
[02:04] <theherbalizer> joe4444: i have 2048mb ram right now, and 4096mb swap, just 'cause i tend to do a lot with 10mp photos in gimp
[02:04] <martalli> crimsum, joe4444 suspend-to-disk never worked for me until just recently...mepis does it just perfectly with my dell m1210 laptop
[02:04] <cafuego_> pestilence: A box with infinite ram won't boot.
[02:04] <dimeotane> LordLimecat: I put beryl on instead cause I thought it was the one that works with my intel laptop graphics
[02:05] <joe4444> i guess i'm just tainted by windows... no matter how much free (real) RAM i have on the system windows always seems to start swapping which is annoying as hell... is linux much better about avoiding the swap unless it's really necessary?
[02:05] <pestilence> cafuego_: how about expanding RAM that matches your demands exactly
[02:05] <LordLimecat> dimeotane: i ran into that too, at first, i thought compiz was for ati
[02:05] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: 4GB swap is perhaps a touch over the top
[02:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> dimeotane: In my opinion, compiz runs much better.
[02:05] <LordLimecat> which is false
[02:05] <spas90> /connect irc.spnet.net
[02:05] <facugaich> joe4444, yes it is :)
[02:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> dimeotane: I have a crude laptop graphics card (GMA900)
[02:05] <martalli> joe4444 I remember the days of win98 with those 16mb computer and a constantly running hard drive....glad that's behind us
[02:05] <cafuego_> pestilence: Maybe we'll just stick to actual machines.
[02:05] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: well, it's not going to hurt performance at all (right?), and on a 300gb hdd, i don't notice the space missing
[02:05] <LordLimecat> i have a 7600 gt pirated from my dead core2 system
[02:06] <pestilence> cafuego_: ok, then for an actual machine, if your needs for RAM < your actual RAM, what good does swap do?
[02:06] <profx> Make sure fglrx is not disabled: gksudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common <-- when I enter this, I get Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[02:06] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: Depends in whether an app is going to go mad and start forcing other stuff to be swapped out.
[02:06] <LordLimecat> hooray for cannibalism
[02:06] <LordLimecat> (computer0
[02:06] <|Jason8|> Can anyone tell me the command to increase the swap partition size to a gigabyte+?
[02:06] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: see, you're in a console, you'd have to use sudo nano
[02:06] <joe4444> i don't plan on doing any photo or video editing with my desktop (ubuntu) b/c i love photoshop too much to get rid of XP from my laptop
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Photoshop with WINE!!!!!
[02:07] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: well, things are running plenty fast for my liking
[02:07] <cafuego_> pestilence: do a google on the Linux VM and how it keeps pages in ram (or swap) for faster repeat access.
[02:07] <vontux> !kismet
[02:07] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Supposedly runs well.
[02:07] <profx> gives the same error with nano
[02:07] <profx> just tried it
[02:07] <theherbalizer> Biscuitian_Warhe: what? why not gimp?
[02:07] <joe4444> well my laptop display is much better for photoshop... 1600x1200 vs 1440x900
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I like gimp. Just saying to the guy with XP
[02:07] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: Are you sure you're using sudo not gksudo
[02:08] <cafuego_> joe4444: After a year of using gimp only, you'll be hating photoshop (I did)
[02:08] <boci^> cafuego_: hihi
[02:08] <profx> i was logged in as su
[02:08] <vontux> what problems can arise if you uncomment all repos in the sources.list file?
[02:08] <joe4444> cafuego, well i'll give it a try =)
[02:08] <boci^> cafuego_: xfs_repair -L solved the problem
[02:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> profx: don't worry about sudo then, just do nano
[02:08] <cafuego_> boci^: ouch
[02:08] <profx> so I did exactly what was written
[02:08] <theherbalizer> cafuego_: photoshop never made sense to me =/
[02:08] <Arafangion> cafuego_: After a year of using the Gimp, you'll /also/ hate the Gimp ;)
[02:08] <Biscuitian_Warhe> don't use gksudo or gksu either
[02:08] <PriceChild> vontux, none really.... some packages are just not officially supported.
[02:08] <theherbalizer> Arafangion: lol
[02:08] <cafuego_> Arafangion: nah, you'll just wish they'd release the next version a sooner ;-)
[02:09] <cafuego_> theherbalizer: I've been using it since version 2.0 on m68k mac.
[02:09] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wish Linux has a better InDesign clone, Scribus doesn't cut it
[02:09] <boci^> I draw a lesson: Never give up :)
[02:09] <vontux> PriceChild: ah, thx
[02:09] <whonicca> what command do i have to type to get the kernel that uses SMT
[02:09] <joe4444> speaking of XP on linux... i've used VMware a good bit on XP to test linux distros, and it's always had good performance... how does Wine compare to VMware on linux?
[02:09] <xexos> i get "Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem" how do i fix that? >.< (yes im a n00b)
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: As of Edgy, it autodetects the kernel you need, smp should be set up
[02:10] <cafuego_> whonicca: SMP you mean? Just install the -generic kernel on Edgy.
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: Completely different animal.
[02:10] <PriceChild> xexos, what are you trying to do when you get that?
[02:10] <Rei-chan> WINE is not an emulator.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: Wine typically works well
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: vmware essentially emulates the entire PC such that you can then install the operating system inside it.
[02:10] <Biscuitian_Warhe> joe4444: I can use it for good gaming, so xD it rocks
[02:10] <joe4444> so wine just lets you run 1 specific windows app?
[02:10] <Arafangion> joe4444: wine runs the programs natively.
[02:10] <xexos> PriceChild: when i try to play Q3, i got openlibal or w/e it is
[02:10] <jonathan1> Hello, I need help.
[02:10] <profx> ok
[02:11] <profx> looks like I got it
[02:11] <francois> jonathan1: ask
[02:11] <jonathan1>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart}
[02:11] <jonathan1> oops
[02:11] <joe4444> hmm, i'll have to read more about it then i guess
[02:11] <jonathan1>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[02:11] <jonathan1>    ...fail!
[02:11] <PirateHead> I can't import photos from my camera unless I'm root. Is there a way to fix that?
[02:11] <joe4444> thanks
[02:11] <Arafangion> joe4444: Though, some libraries aren't implemented, but generally if it works on win98, and doesn't require special purpose drivers, it should work.
[02:11] <prog> hello
[02:11] <jonathan1> I get that when starting sshd.
[02:11] <xexos> !pastbin
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <xexos> !pastebin
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <cafuego_> jonathan1: be root
[02:11] <whonicca> Biscuitian_Warhe, i dist-upgraded from dapper
[02:11] <jonathan1> I am
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> folks, do they make a 64bit intel version?
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> !64 bit
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: of what?
[02:12] <francois> PirateHead: well, only sudo, or root, can mount, maybe thats your problem
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, of ubuntu?
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, ubuntu LTS
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, yes
[02:12] <cafuego_> jonathan1: is it atready running?
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: Just go to synaptic and find the -generic version of the kernel
[02:12] <Arafangion> whonicca: There are 64-bit intel CPU's.
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> where? I only see amd
[02:12] <theherbalizer> CaptainMorgan: use it
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> not intel's
[02:12] <PriceChild> !64bit | CaptainMorgan
[02:12] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> I wanna Quad core intel!
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> use the amd ?
[02:12] <whonicca> Biscuitian_Warhe, any console command =\ im via ssh
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, its the same ;)
[02:12] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: The AMD64 runs fine on Intel 64bit, unless you have Itanium, in which case: ahahaa! ;-)
[02:12] <jonathan1> cafuego_: Not that I'm aware, I can't connect from my laptop
[02:12] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, intel and amd call them different... but they're really the same ;)
[02:12] <theherbalizer> CaptainMorgan: intel is using amd's instruction set on their procs, it will work
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: h/o
[02:12] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Intel's copied AMD with the current most popular consumer 64-bit cpu.
[02:12] <Biscuitian_Warhe> What's Edgy's current kernel??
[02:12] <PirateHead> francois: perhaps it is, but I was under the impression that I should be able to. When I plug in my camera, it asks if I would like to import photos, then if I'm not root it spits out an error when I hit OK
[02:12] <vox754> this is crazy I'm using "irc" from the command line, no X. You should try it at least once. "sudo aptitude install ircii"
[02:13] <crimsun> Biscuitian_Warhe: 2.6.17-11
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> thanks
[02:13] <whonicca> h o?
[02:13] <animesh> can someone help me seeing wat has gone wrong with beryl
[02:13] <CaptainMorgan> alright.. Ill give it a go.. thanks
[02:13] <Arafangion> vox754: With screen, of course.
[02:13] <PriceChild> whonicca, hold on
[02:13] <jonathan1> vox754: Try irssi :)
[02:13] <francois> PirateHead: what are the errosr?
[02:13] <cafuego_> jonathan1: What does /var/log/syslog say about it?
[02:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: hold on...
[02:13] <Arafangion> Yeah, irssi is nicer.
[02:13] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: Btw, for a desktop box, use 32bit.
[02:13] <PirateHead> francois: it says i/o library error, make sure another kernel module is not accessing the device and taht you have read/write priviledges
[02:13] <prog> hi i'm looking for a player that will play all types of movie files
[02:13] <theherbalizer> yeah, 64bit is basically useless right now for home users
[02:13] <jonathan1> cafuego_: Wait, It is started, sorry. But I can't connect from any other computer
[02:14] <PirateHead> francois: that error does not occur if I manually run the import wizard as root
[02:14] <Arafangion> !multimedia > prog
[02:14] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, why? my desktop is a 64 bit machine
[02:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> whonicca: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[02:14] <cafuego_> jonathan: hmm.
[02:14] <theherbalizer> unless you have an app that specifically demands 64bit, it's going to be a hassle doing what you normally do
[02:14] <prog> is that the name of the player ara?
[02:14] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: Most users have needs that are not (easily) addressed on Dapper 64bit. (Like java applets, flash, video)
[02:14] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: 64-bit computing doesn't really give the customer that many advantages.
[02:14] <vox754>  Arafangion yeah, I'm using "ircii" because  I couldn't remember that irssi, I'll try it right away.
[02:14] <theherbalizer> 90% of the apps out there are 32 bit, things like flash, audio/video players, games
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> for some reason it won't let me install the 32 bit version.. "buffer io error: hdb 'some number'"
[02:15] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Unless you have more than 4GB of ram, and run at least one program that actually requires more than 4 GB of ram.
[02:15] <CaptainMorgan> hanging
[02:15] <PriceChild> Arafangion, if will with intensive things like video encoding ;)
[02:15] <jonathan1> hmm, it's working now :(
[02:15] <PirateHead> CaptainMorgan: it is frequently a hassle to run a 64-bit operating system. Unless it is critical that you are able to use 64-bit apps, it is probably more trouble than the worth.
[02:15] <jonathan1> thanks anyway
[02:15] <jonathan1> i'm also here as Peppery :P
[02:15] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: it eventually boils down to: don't use flash or do a 32bit chroot, which is a PITA for normal desktop users.
[02:15] <Arafangion> PriceChild: Perhaps - if that program specifically has 64-bit optimizations, but it could even become slower due to larger pointers.
[02:16] <cafuego_> I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's more of a hassle than even I'm willing to put up with.
[02:16] <Peppery> Thanks anyway cafuego_
[02:16] <cafuego_> Peppery: <heh>
[02:16] <AsusM2N-MX> can i transfer a HDD on 1 computer to another and expect it to boot up?
[02:16] <cafuego_> Peppery: What error were you getting? Connection refused?
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> AsusM2N-MX: most likely
[02:17] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Pretty much yes.
[02:17] <vox754> CaptainMorgan 32 bit is the best. Once you get experience then install Linux 64 on your electronic controlled toilet, should you have one.
[02:17] <Peppery> cafuego_: It's working, but not from the computer I want it to :P
[02:17] <AsusM2N-MX> what abt the video options? do i need to change those to at least generic?
[02:17] <Peppery> I'm getting a "No route to host" error, even though i'm telling it the IP of the machine.
[02:17] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Don't put a scsi drive from a sparc into a sata pentium 4 though.
[02:17] <CaptainMorgan> vox754, experience is not the issue
[02:17] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: There is a term: "Marketing bullshit".
[02:17] <cafuego_> Peppery: So your routing/connectivity is the problem, not sshd.
[02:17] <AsusM2N-MX> no scsi or sata drives on my new comp
[02:17] <Peppery> cafuego_: Yeah, I'm an idiot. Thanks.
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> folks, cafuego do you know why I am receiving: buffer i/o error on device hdb logical block "some number" when trying to install ubuntu?
[02:18] <AsusM2N-MX> but different video/ethernet/sound cards
[02:18] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: CD broken. try a different one. (burn a new one?)
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> I googled and deduced 'old hardware' which is not the case
[02:18] <Aruin> i need a uri handeler for dvd where do i find one?
[02:18] <morbi> french channel for ubuntu please ? :x
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> CD? cafuego for sure?
[02:18] <PirateHead> !fr | morbi
[02:18] <ubotu> morbi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:18] <morbi> thanks ;)
[02:18] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: is your cd or dvd drive theprimary slave?
[02:18] <PirateHead> no problem
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, Ill do that before I let my brand new hardware be called old :)
[02:19] <Arafangion> CaptainMorgan: Try "check CD for defects" boot option.
[02:19] <facugaich> Can anyone check my xorg.conf? It looks weird. I have Dapper with fglrx driver. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9555/ Thank You!
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> Arafangion, did that.. none
[02:19] <|Jason8|> wget http://siegie.sin.khk.be/diskmounter      << That command is supposed to fetch that script, but I think the link is broken.  Can someone verify for me?
[02:19] <vicente> sup guys
[02:19] <cafuego_> Arafangion: if it's producing an io error you can pretty much assume there *is* a defect and not bother testing ;-)
[02:19] <PirateHead> sup vicente
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, uhm... Ill have to check
[02:19] <vox754> cafuego_ do you know if current versions of Ubuntu can be installed on that Intel 64 processors that are incompatible with i386?
[02:19] <dimeotane> anyone use sbackup alot and can tell me how to make it so the backup file  can be put onto DVD-RW
[02:19] <vicente> anyone know of a place to play wargames online?
[02:19] <CaptainMorgan> I forget.. it was functioning as a server and has been untouched for more than 40 days
[02:20] <Orfeous> vicente, hey ;)
[02:20] <Arafangion> cafuego_: Yes, but certain people like the assurance. ;)
[02:20] <vicente> sup Orfeous, any progress?
[02:20] <cafuego_> vox754: The 64bit version yes.
[02:20] <dimeotane> vincente: tremulous and enemy territory
[02:20] <PriceChild> vox754, 64bit processors aren't incompatible with i366....
[02:20] <cafuego_> vox754: The 32bit version *would* be fine if your 386 has a LOT of ram. LOTS and LOTS.
[02:20] <vicente> dimeotane, i meant more of the "break into this computer" type of wargame
[02:20] <Aruin> i cant seem to get dvd movies to work can some 1 help ?
[02:20] <vox754> PriceChild There is one, check the wikipedia info.
[02:21] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego_ yes it is the slave... but I installed the cable according to the label "hard drive" and "slave/cdrom"
[02:21] <dimeotane> vicente: since when is breaking computers considered 'wargames"  there's got to be *some* killing involved =)
[02:21] <AsusM2N-MX> and uhh can i have two different kernels residing on the same partition? for e.g. one for amd-k7 and one amd64-generic??
[02:21] <PirateHead> vicente: there is a "cracking challenges" website somehwhere, but it's pretty lame
[02:21] <Orfeous> vicente, yes.. but i think i need your help
[02:21] <cafuego_> vox754: Don't confuse Itanium and itanium 2 (ia64) with Pentium 4, Xeon and Core2. (x86_64). They are two completely different architectures.
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego_, that would cause those errors?
[02:22] <reap> no matter what installation i use of ubuntu in both 6.06 or 6.10 i have the same problem...once it going into graphical mode the screen is all messed up, anyone know what hte problem may be/
[02:22] <reap> ?
[02:22] <CaptainMorgan> it basically hung with those errors at instll
[02:22] <vicente> i knew this one website that hosted live boxes for teams of crackers to break into. they had contest like "king of the hill" the only thing was you had to tell them exactly how you did it to break in
[02:22] <PirateHead> vicente: if you're interested in those wargames, you should get in touch with the FBI =D
[02:22] <Orfeous> vicente, i have got oddcastv3,jackd and xmms working with shoutcast BUT when i play i cant hear anything myself.
[02:22] <vicente> Orfeous, go ahead and pm me ill be right back
[02:22] <cafuego_> CaptainMorgan: I'd assume a busted disc and try a new one - burn it at 8x or 16x.
[02:22] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX YES. The kernel is used during the boot process. Then it just sits there
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> hey can anyone help me? everytime i try to run update i get this E: Type 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is not known on line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:22] <ub3r_n00b> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:22] <aSt3raL> reap: try installing the latest video drivers
[02:23] <ub3r_n00b> whats wrong?
[02:23] <vicente> PirateHead,  ALL wargames that i know of are completely legal and under supervision. ;)
[02:23] <vox754> cafuego_ yes that is what I meant. I just didn't remembered the names of those other processors.
[02:23] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, and others, thanks for your help
[02:23] <aSt3raL> reap: also make sure your xorg.conf file is correct
[02:23] <reap> asteral: how do i do that...i cant even get ubuntu installed
[02:23] <cafuego_> no sane human you'll ever meet would use itanium, so you may as well assume they don't exist ;-)
[02:23] <aSt3raL> reap: i thought you had it installed
[02:23] <preaction> ub3r_n00b: sounds like you corrupted your sources.list, might want to restore from a backup (or find a default one on the wiki)
[02:23] <dimeotane> reap:  how much ram is on your system?
[02:23] <PirateHead> vicente: that's not what I'm talking about -- the FBI is doing really interesting (usually even legal!) work in the area of "virtual" engagements
[02:23] <timetrap> yo quick cdrw question - If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:23] <PriceChild> ub3r_n00b, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit your line 33 to remove that entry.
[02:24] <reap> 1GB Corsair XMS DDR Dual Channel
[02:24] <dimeotane> k thats good
[02:24] <preaction> timetrap: use a burning program to write to it?
[02:24] <nipplesrulz> eh
[02:24] <vox754> cafuego_ but the processor DOES exist, so I'm wondering, has Intel discontinued them?
[02:24] <ub3r_n00b> edit it?
[02:24] <dimeotane> reap: u put in the live cd and boot it what happens?
[02:24] <ub3r_n00b> what should it say?
[02:24] <reap> also have a nVidia 7800GT (EVGA) and nforce4 ultra chipset
[02:25] <timetrap> Precaution - I tired that but  `cdrecord -scanbus` does not work
[02:25] <timetrap> (yes I sudo'd it)
[02:25] <cafuego_> vox754: Not really, but they cost a LOT of money... and as far as I'm aware a decent itanium is actually slower at compiling a kernel than my cheap-ass amd64.
[02:25] <reap> i put in the cd...it goes to the load loading graphic(its messed up looking) then it goes into the screen with the pink background and i cant read what on it
[02:25] <reap> image is all torn looking and distorted
[02:25] <cafuego_> vox754: They're used in some high-end systems that need high memory bandwidth - but most companies would probably use amd opterons for that instead.
[02:26] <dimeotane> did you try safe boot mode?
[02:26] <ub3r_n00b> wait...i think its fixed
[02:26] <reap> ya
[02:26] <reap> same thing
[02:26] <reap> tried alternate disk
[02:26] <reap> same thing
[02:26] <dimeotane> also try changing resolutions with ctrl alt and plus on the numpad..
[02:26] <reap> ya
[02:26] <reap> tried taht
[02:26] <dimeotane> you'll need to edit your xorg.conf file
[02:26] <dimeotane> what video card u have?
[02:26] <vox754> cafuego_ but Opteron is x86_64 right? In any case, do you agree that Intel screwed up?
[02:26] <vicente> sorry about that Orfeous
[02:26] <reap> nvidia 7800GT from EVGA
[02:27] <AsusM2N-MX> can someone tell me why i cant see kernel images for amd64 through apt-cache search?
[02:27] <timetrap> If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:27] <cafuego_> vox754: pretty much
[02:27] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Did you install a 64bit Ubuntu?
[02:27] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX try "aptitude search kernel" or "linux"
[02:27] <vicente> is there any reliable way of benchmarking transfers from linux to windows using ftp, smb, and http?
[02:28] <dimeotane> reap: you might find something on the forums : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380191&highlight=nvidia+7800GT
[02:28] <timetrap> I need a person who is good with devices, anyone?
[02:28] <reap> ill take a look, thanks dimeotane
[02:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> timetrap: ask the question, then you'll see who is ;)
[02:28] <timetrap> If I just installed a new cdrw how do I get ubuntu to recognize it as a cdrw and not a cd-rom?
[02:29] <cafuego_> timetrap: It does that magically by itself.
[02:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> timetrap: Should do it by itself, though I dunno, you might wanna check about that
[02:29] <timetrap> no it does not
[02:29] <cafuego_> timetrap: Yes, it does.
[02:29] <timetrap> not after you installed
[02:29] <dimeotane> timetrap:  just a guess, but maybe the firmware needs updating?
[02:29] <vox754> timetrap it shouldn't matter as long as you can burn to discs.
[02:29] <timetrap> I updated the firmware
[02:29] <AsusM2N-MX> hmm still no amd64
[02:29] <timetrap> I cannot burn discs
[02:30] <cafuego_> timetrap: Insert blank cd, burn.
[02:30] <AsusM2N-MX> i can only see k7
[02:30] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Did you install a 64bit Ubuntu?
[02:30] <ohir> timetrap kernel knows, cdrecord should know too
[02:30] <AsusM2N-MX> nope its not 64 bit
[02:30] <timetrap> nope, when I insert a blank disk, no window pops up for the gnome cd/dvd creator
[02:30] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX do a "aptitude update" to uptade the database then try again.
[02:30] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: What is the output of 'uname -a' ?
[02:30] <timetrap> but in my dvd-r the window pops up
[02:31] <Trae> anyone know of any good gui patch management tools for Linux?
[02:31] <dazjorz> Hi
[02:31] <Orfeous> vicente, use dbench
[02:31] <AsusM2N-MX> uname -a : Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT
[02:31] <timetrap> trae: apt-get
[02:31] <cafuego_> timetrap: Mine doesn't pop up anything either, but I cna still burn discs just fine.
[02:31] <timetrap> Really?
[02:31] <Orfeous> vicente, it doesnt work pm you
[02:31] <ohir> timetrap unless its an ancient atapi.
[02:31] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: You installed a 32bit Ubuntu. That doesn't have 64bit kernels.
[02:31] <vox754> AsusM2N-MX you are not using 6.10, are you?
[02:31] <timetrap> when I do sudo cdrecord -scnbus nothing comes up
[02:31] <cafuego_> No, 2.6.15 is 6.06
[02:32] <Luis07> how can I specify an hour for my computer to turn off?
[02:32] <|Jason8|> GAH
[02:32] <AsusM2N-MX> is there a generic kernel that works with both 32/64 bit cpus?
[02:32] <Trae> timetrap, you can use apt to deal with a patch you did from CVS???
[02:32] <AsusM2N-MX> im on dapper still
[02:32] <dazjorz> How do I check if Intel SpeedStep is supported and enabled?
[02:32] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: yes, the one you;re using now.
[02:32] <timetrap> if it is an older atapi what are my options?
[02:32] <dimeotane> timetrap : check in gnomebaker for preferences -->devices... you'll see what modes are detected for your burner
[02:32] <vox754> cafuego_ and past Ubuntus had specific Kernels right? I think this has been discontinued in favor of the generic.
[02:32] <timetrap> Trae: oh you just asked for a patch managment tool, missed the CVS
[02:33] <vicente> thanks for the dbench suggestion, im just trying to find something to grab files at LAN parties with faster :)
[02:33] <AsusM2N-MX> cafuego_: will k7 kernel work with amd64 cpu?
[02:33] <cafuego_> timetrap: cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus
[02:33] <kbrooks> why is the generic kernel good?
[02:33] <cafuego_> AsusM2N-MX: Yes
[02:33] <timetrap> dimetone: gnomebaker, is that the default install?
[02:33] <foormea> hey all. i'd need a ubuntu jedi master to help me change the configuration of hal (i think) to change the automounting points without touching fstab :)
[02:33] <AsusM2N-MX> cafuego_: wooooot
[02:33] <cafuego_> kbrooks: Less opportunity for people to wreck their system by installing an incompatible kernel.
[02:33] <timetrap> When I insert an audio cd sound juicer wont pull it up
[02:34] <cafuego_> timetrap: is the drive detected at bootup?
[02:34] <timetrap> Yes the drive is detected
[02:35] <dimeotane> timetrap: do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[02:35] <timetrap> and yes the last command : cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus worked
[02:35] <timetrap> is gnomebaker good?
[02:35] <dimeotane> i like it
[02:35] <cafuego_> timetrap: *nod* it need to tell it to use the ATAPI drivers, otherwise it assumes you're using scsi.
[02:35] <timetrap> hmmm
[02:35] <preaction> timetrap: i prefer k3b, but that requires loading the KDE libraries
[02:35] <cafuego_> which gives me a nice list of (useless) sata harddisks :-)