[12:15] <Zaire> that page link told me nothing
[12:15] <BluesKaj> lupul , check out nautilus
[12:16] <lupul> for what? cd catalog?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> mp3 converter
[12:17] <lupul> ok. thank you very much
[12:19] <BluesKaj> lupul, sudo apt-get install nautilus
[12:22] <nagyv> how can I switch to the "real" system settings window?
[12:22] <lupul> thanks for helping
[12:22] <lupul> bye
[12:23] <sjrextor> hello
[12:24] <Zaire> !smtp
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <havocologe> is there a list of kubuntu mirrors for the dvd-images or do i have to take the one promted by the script? that is a problem because my downloadmanager does not like the script :(
[12:24] <Zaire> !e-mail
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e-mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <LjL> !fishing
[12:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:26] <havocologe> !mirror
[12:26] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[12:30] <MukiEX> I just thought of something : Is the mplayer plugin capable of opening flv files embedded in a browser?
[12:33] <nagyv> how can I switch to the extended system settings windows?
[12:34] <[Amigo] > Hi ppl! I have Kubuntu 6.06.1, KDE 3.5.5, AmaroK 1.4.3, Xine-engine, libxine-extracodecs. Some time AmaroK crash (notify icon not displayed, list window not response) . And together hungs Konsole & Konqueror. I run KSysGuard and send therm signal to amarokapp. Strat amarok and it's problem repeat some time (not periodic).
[12:34] <wonderboy> is somebody here?
[12:34] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: nobody
[12:35] <JohnFlux> [Amigo] : what signal do you send?
[12:35] <[Amigo] > terminate
[12:35] <JohnFlux> [Amigo] : kill?
[12:35] <JohnFlux> okay
[12:35] <wonderboy> hei man u know how to instal dc++ for linux or dcgui and from were can i take it?
[12:36] <wonderboy> ???????????//
[12:36] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: dude
[12:36] <wonderboy> what?
[12:36] <[Amigo] > JohnFlux, may be it's a bug?
[12:36] <wonderboy> i'm a biginer in linux
[12:36] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: one question mark is enough :P
[12:36] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: what's dc++ ?
[12:36] <wonderboy> !!!
[12:37] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: ah file sharing program
[12:37] <wonderboy> yup
[12:37] <BluesKaj> !dcc++
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <wonderboy> but dcgui?
[12:37] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: click K->System->Package manager
[12:37] <BluesKaj> !dc++
[12:37] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:37] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: then install dcgui
[12:37] <yamal> !info dcgui
[12:37] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[12:38] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: "Manage Packages" rather
[12:38] <[Amigo] > JohnFlux, you can help me?
[12:38] <scott_> where is the repository for kde?
[12:39] <JohnFlux> scott: what are you trying to do
[12:39] <JohnFlux> [Amigo] : best you can do is file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[12:39] <scott_> I want to change to multiuniversie and universe
[12:39] <daewoo> i just used synaptic
[12:39] <filthgrinder> well
[12:40] <filthgrinder> Needing help: When I try to install the NVIDIA glx-driver (both from apt and "manually"), everything appears to work out just fine
[12:40] <JohnFlux> scott_: okay so enable them from the gui
[12:40] <filthgrinder> but when I run glxgears, I get "Segmentation fault"
[12:40] <[Amigo] > JohnFlux: tnx
[12:40] <scott_> I will say one thing for linux...it has breathed new life in a laptop I was about ready to part with
[12:41] <wonderboy> k
[12:41] <BluesKaj> scott_ , cool ! :)
[12:41] <wonderboy> i'm there but how i instal it?
[12:41] <wonderboy> pls help me
[12:41] <scott_> you know...linux is the ak-47 of the software world
[12:41] <lenscape> how come nfs mounts take an age to return - even though the request is satisfied by the server immediately?
[12:41] <kgx> heh..my nvdia drivers causes weird colors on edgy :(
[12:41] <scott_> might not have all the bells and whisles...but works every time
[12:42] <wonderboy> JohnFlux pls help me
[12:42] <scott_> can someone send me the link to learn how to do the multiuniverse in repository
[12:43] <JohnFlux> !multiverse
[12:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:43] <filthgrinder> scott, didn't know the AK47 had bells or whistles
[12:43] <scott_> the ak-47 goes bang...bang...bang...
[12:43] <scott_> everytime...that is its strength
[12:43] <pointwood> anyone here developing in python? if yes, what editor are you using?
[12:43] <wonderboy> is somebody who want to help me?
[12:43] <wonderboy> pls
[12:44] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: follow the link ubotu gave to enable the multiverse and universe repository
[12:44] <JohnFlux> scott_: you too ;-|)
[12:44] <wonderboy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:44] <wonderboy> that one
[12:45] <azion> Hi, can anyone tell me where I can find "TK Gui Kit"?
[12:46] <JohnFlux> azion: why? :-)
[12:46] <azion> I need it to install aMsn
[12:46] <JohnFlux> azion: so run adept and install amsn
[12:47] <azion> The older version is on the adept
[12:47] <wonderboy> we need audio and video codecs for linux?
[12:47] <JohnFlux> which version do you want?
[12:47] <azion> 0.96
[12:47] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: you need to install the illegal codecs yourself
[12:48] <wonderboy> i ask
[12:48] <wonderboy> k
[12:48] <JohnFlux> !codecs
[12:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:48] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: ^^
[12:48] <wonderboy> yes
[12:48] <JohnFlux> wonderboy: the second link
[12:48] <JohnFlux> azion: 0.95 is in edgy
[12:48] <JohnFlux> azion: best option is to be patient ;-)
[12:48] <wonderboy> I'm a beginer
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> wonderboy are you really wonderous?
[12:49] <wonderboy> i need someone to explaine to me
[12:49] <JohnFlux> Bubba_Gump:  i think it's from that music band
[12:49] <wonderboy> why
[12:49] <JohnFlux> "with the power to kill a yak"
[12:49] <JohnFlux> "with mind bullets!"
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> cos i'm nasty man!
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> :FD
[12:49] <ckd__> my dsl-connection hang up everytime
[12:50] <yamal> wonderboy: for codecs grab w32codecs from seveas repo
[12:50] <nagyv> where can I set up the laptop buttons for edgy?
[12:50] <JohnFlux> yamal: that's explained in the link i gave
[12:50] <JohnFlux> !laptop
[12:50] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:50] <JohnFlux> nagyv: ^^
[12:51] <JohnFlux> I swear, my entire job is reading questions, then typing  !<keyword>  ;-)
[12:51] <JohnFlux> we should make ubotu more automatic hmm
[12:51] <JohnFlux> heh that would be cool
[12:51] <JohnFlux> *grin*
[12:51] <yamal> JohnFlux: try bug triaging... half is dupes or support requests
[12:52] <JohnFlux> yamal: I fix about a dozen bugs a week ;-)
[12:52] <JohnFlux> well half a dozen
[12:54] <azion> !share
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <azion> !shares
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Hawkwind> soulrider: For a few seconds, what's up ?
[12:57] <eilker> anyone using vmware??
[12:58] <Zaire> anyone in here know of a goo open source 2 way e-mail server thats prefferably easy to setup
[12:58] <Zaire> good*
[12:59] <yamal> Zaire: "2 way mail server"?
[01:00] <Zaire> yea one that can send and receive
[01:00] <yamal> oh they all can :)
[01:00] <Zaire> k know of a good one lol I need one
[01:00] <yamal> !postfix
[01:00] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[01:00] <Zaire> thx
[01:02] <yamal> you may need to combine that with some kind of way to pick up your mail; i.e. pop3, imap, or webmail of some kind
[01:03] <yamal> but that's no doubt explained at those links :)
[01:03] <BluesKaj> suddenly Thunderbird opens links in konqueror instead of firefox. I 've checked all the settings and everything points to FF as the default browser ...any ideas ?
[01:04] <scott_> once again...I have a question about repositories...where is my link about my repositories?
[01:05] <JohnFlux> !repos
[01:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[01:05] <JohnFlux> scott ^
[01:05] <JohnFlux> BluesKaj: too slow :P
[01:05] <BluesKaj> hehe, not known for my KB skills
[01:06] <Shaezsche> is it possible to configure knetworkmanager to NOT automatically connect me to wireless?
[01:06] <jbasilio>  anyone know how to adjust pmount options when kde mounts removable media?  i want to change the umask setting but i can't find where kde calls pmount
[01:06] <eilker> anyone using vmware??
[01:09] <malic> heya all
[01:09] <malic> does anybody know how I make beryl start kde instead of gnome?
[01:09] <malic> I installed beryl and now my system boots up in gnome
[01:12] <BluesKaj> I'LL REPEAT : suddenly Thunderbird opens links in konqueror instead of firefox. I 've checked all the settings and everything points to FF as the default browser ...any ideas ?
[01:12] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:14] <pointwood> anyone here developing in python? if yes, what editor are you using?
[01:14] <pointwood> or IDE
[01:14] <BluesKaj> cool Jucato, THANKS !
[01:15] <_leo__> ola
[01:16] <_leo__> can someone tell me where i can find php-imap?
[01:17] <rance> I just installed kubuntu on a test box and am trying a few things out
[01:17] <yamal> !info php-imap
[01:17] <ubotu> Package php-imap does not exist in any distro I know
[01:18] <yamal> !info php5-imap
[01:18] <ubotu> php5-imap: IMAP module for php5. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 168 kB
[01:18] <BluesKaj> !php-imap
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php-imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <rance> how do I get packages like opera, that have license issues, I read canonical has a special repository for that, but I can't find a reference
[01:19] <crimsun> rance: dapper-commercial
[01:19] <malic> argh
[01:19] <malic> moving windows around in gnome is super-fast, no tearing etc
[01:19] <malic> in KDE it's horrendously slow
[01:19] <malic> this isn't normal, i know - because it was fast in kde with suse
[01:19] <_leo__> thanks
[01:19] <malic> is there something i'm doing wrong here?
[01:19] <malic> glx and such are enabled and working fine
[01:20] <BluesKaj> rance, have you tried the opera DL site ?
[01:21] <moparisthebest> I ran kdesu konqueror and then deleted a large file, but the space was not cleared
[01:21] <rance> not yet, that was just an example, stuff like real audio, and a host of other things fall into that opera category
[01:21] <moparisthebest> I assume there is a recycle bin for root or something
[01:21] <moparisthebest> anyone know where it is so I can clear it?
[01:21] <malic> also, my kde panel disappeared entirely in KDE
[01:21] <malic> and I don't know how to get it back.
[01:22] <Jucato> moparisthebest: try running Konqueror as root, then go to trash:/ not sure if it will work but it's worth a try
[01:22] <Jucato> malic: Press Ctrl+Esc and check if kicker is running
[01:22] <moparisthebest> works great, why didnt I think of that? lol
[01:23] <moparisthebest> thanks so much Jucato
[01:23] <malic> brb
[01:23] <Jucato> np :)
[01:23] <ubuntu__> hi! I tried just to install Kubuntu 6.10 - but it will not start at all
[01:24] <yago> hola
[01:24] <Jucato> !info opera
[01:24] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in any distro I know
[01:24] <malic> kicker is running
[01:24] <BluesKaj> rance.. deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ edgy non-free
[01:25] <ubuntu__> why wont 6.10 start ?
[01:25] <rance> crimsun: thanks
[01:25] <yago> hi anyone wanna talk with m?
[01:25] <ubuntu__> is there a way to choose safemode during startup e.g ?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> rance, di you see the repos ?
[01:26] <Jucato> Hawkwind has created a repository for Ubuntu that has Opera in it. for instructions: http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html
[01:26] <rance> yes, thanks, I was on another console for a bit
[01:26] <malic> jucato, kicker is running
[01:26] <malic> (I think you were the one who asked)
[01:27] <Jucato> malic: ok do this,press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" (without the quotes), then go to the panel settings and try to look where you kicker hid itself, and specially check the Hiding settings
[01:27] <eilker> anyone using vmware??
[01:27] <poolkey172> Seveas : Heard u got a repo for stuff like kiba dock ?
[01:27] <malic> got it. thanks.
[01:27] <malic> any way to resolve the slow window movement?
[01:28] <malic> it's not slightly slow - it makes it almost impossible to move them
[01:28] <malic> it's perfectly smooth in gnome, and my hardware + graphics drivers are fine
[01:28] <malic> but I dislike gnome ;=;
[01:33] <gsuveg> re
[01:33] <gsuveg> koffice 1.6.1 come in debs ?
[01:33] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php
[01:34] <kgx> anyone knows when kde4's coming out?
[01:34] <gsuveg> Jucato: sry. im see kubunut org :(
[01:35] <gsuveg> kgx: if it finished :)
[01:35] <Jucato> gsuveg: they still haven't added it to the front page because the one with the rights to modify it is out :)
[01:35] <gsuveg> Jucato: ok. but repo is finished ?
[01:35] <gsuveg> kgx: within one year ;)
[01:36] <Jucato> gsuveg: yep
[01:36] <Jucato> kgx: no definite target date yet. probably Q3 2007
[01:37] <gsuveg> Jucato: this is the point why im use kubuntu :)
[01:37] <gsuveg> Jucato: thanks
[01:37] <Jucato> :)
[01:38] <gsuveg> i would like to write an article from krita...
[01:40] <Jucato> !koffice | gsuveg
[01:40] <ubotu> gsuveg: Integrated office suite for KDE, including word processing, spreadsheet, flow charting, image manipulation. For more info see: http://koffice.kde.org. Upgraded Kubuntu packs at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php (for Dapper) and http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-161.php (for Edgy)
[01:40] <Jucato> changed it :)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Jucato: the repo works again btw
[01:40] <gsuveg> Jucato: 143KB/s 2m1s  ;)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> 161 repo
[01:40] <Jucato> gnomefreak: yep. the old repo I had was a "not-koffice-161" repo :)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:41] <Jucato> guess we'll just have to wait for Riddell to come back to put it up in the front page
[01:41] <velle> is it possible for somebody in an irc channel to get my ip address, just via irc?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> i can get rid of it soon. afaik it was uploaded for main/universe
[01:41] <gnomefreak> velle: /whois velle tells me your ip
[01:41] <Jucato> velle: unless you have a mask
[01:42] <velle> hehe, that was easy1
[01:42] <gnomefreak> velle: easier if they look when you enter or leave the channel too :)
[01:42] <Jucato> we can also see your name if you configured you IRC client to show it :P
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ] /me sees his namne
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ack
[01:43] <Jucato> hahah
[01:44] <velle> but all irc communication is going via the irc servers, so it should not be necessary to expose anybody's ip address to the public, right?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> get  a cloak and the public wont see it :)
[01:45] <gsuveg> Jucato: its finished :)
[01:45] <gsuveg> time to sleep();
[01:45] <Jucato> gsuveg: return 0;
[01:45] <Jucato> :)
[01:46] <gsuveg> here is 01:45
[01:46] <Jucato> :(
[01:46] <Jucato> Berlin?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> almost 8pm here
[01:46] <Jucato> 8:45am here :P
[01:47] <gsuveg> Jucato: im faster :P
[01:47] <gsuveg> Jucato: Sopron
[01:47] <Jucato> :)
[01:47] <Jucato> gnomefreak: btw, any news on edgy-commercial?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> no
[01:47] <gnomefreak> dont look for it too hard i doubt it will surface
[01:47] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:48] <Jucato> we don't have Opera on Edgy easily available
[01:48] <Jucato> ok
[01:48] <bubu1uk> anyone can tell me what package provides libcrypto.so.0.9.7 ?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> I'm running it right now
[01:48] <BluesKaj> opera  that is
[01:48] <bubu1uk> or how do i check it with apt what provides it.
[01:48] <Jucato> not from any edgy repo, I presume
[01:49] <gsuveg> im use opera's weekly build
[01:49] <velle> the thing is, im pretty new to A LOT in the unix world, hence all my questions :) i just watched a talk on it security, where he demonstrated ethereal. So im playing around with that kind of stuff tonight... and i feel tempted to ask about security issues on irc, but im thinking... maybe they are like vultures in the security channels.... waiting for me to tell that i dont have a firewall etc. and then haunt me :)
[01:49] <rance> I dont think there needs to be an opera item in the packages, opera already has a ubuntu - edgy-eft download
[01:50] <BluesKaj> add this to your sources list if you eant opera .. "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ edgy non-free"
[01:50] <Jucato> !info opera edgy
[01:50] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in edgy
[01:50] <BluesKaj> want
[01:50] <Jucato> BluesKaj: where did you get that? does it really say "edgy" or "etch"?
[01:51] <velle> gnomefreak: what is a cloak?
[01:51] <BluesKaj> edgy ...i copied and pasted from my sources list ..which i used to DL and install it
[01:52] <Jucato> velle: maybe you can search in Google or Wikipedia about IRC. it's not something specific to Kubuntu
[01:52] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
[01:52] <BluesKaj> make sure you sudo apt-get update after adding it
[01:53] <Jucato> I have Opera installed. I'm using Hawkwind's repository for Ubuntu
[01:53] <Jucato> (which also has the Nvidia beta driver...)
[01:53] <Jucato> I'm just looking for alternatives means of getting it for users
[01:54] <bubu1uk> someone can help me with question i gave earlier? pls
[01:55] <Jucato> bubu1uk: libssl0.9.8 (on Edgy)
[01:55] <bubu1uk> Jucato: thanx.
[01:56] <BluesKaj> bubu1uk,  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <q_> any viruses yet for kubuntu?
[01:56] <Jucato> none for Linux, even
[01:57] <q_> because is not yet widespread or...
[01:57] <Jucato> quite a few reasons. that's just one of them
[01:58] <Jucato> BluesKaj: btw, the repo you just pointed to is for Debian (which as Etch), and not Ubuntu
[01:58] <Jucato> http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/
[01:58] <BluesKaj> wqell Jucato, it works :)
[01:58] <q_> how about rootkits?
[01:58] <Jucato> APT probably just took "edgy" for "etch" and just went on
[01:59] <Jucato> that's a different thing. I think there are rootkits
[01:59] <Jucato> but very rare
[01:59] <q_> heard about real cases?
[02:00] <Jucato> nope
[02:00] <Jucato> you're practically safe (for now). Just use safe practices, like never do things as root unless necessary. that includes browsing as root, or going into IRC as root
[02:00] <q_> so if i want to try some to try M$   ;)
[02:01] <q_> really so dangerous to use root account?
[02:01] <q_> usually
[02:02] <Jucato> yes. don't make it a habit
[02:02] <q_> better to use sudo
[02:02] <Jucato> besides, the root account is disabled in Kubuntu. we use sudo. still, do not make a habit of using sudo unless necessary
[02:03] <q_> even sudo is dangerous??
[02:03] <yamal> q_: literally: one typo as root and your system is gone.
[02:03] <Jucato> if not used properly
[02:04] <q_>  from an attacker point of view
[02:04] <Jucato> web browsing or IRC with sudo (kdesu) is the same as doing it as root
[02:04] <yamal> q_: the only difference between you and an attacker is that they make the typo on purpose
[02:05] <Jucato> from any point of view.
[02:05] <eilker> i am typing https://<IP_ADDRESS>:8333/ to browser for vmware nothing happens
[02:05] <qbit> did this client spew 4 lines of IDENT failed msgs into the channel when I joined?
[02:05] <gsuveg> eilker: it dont works for me :D
[02:05] <IMEC> the fact that linux does not have a virus is a bit of a myth actually ...
[02:05] <yamal> qbit: nope
[02:06] <qbit> thanks!
[02:06] <q_> conclusion: the worst enemy of my Kubuntu is.....myself :)
[02:06] <Jucato> IMEC: needs to be specified: Linux doesn't have a virus out in the wild
[02:06] <qbit> I built Kvirc 3.2.5 with gcc 4.1 and it's showing some "quirks"
[02:06] <q_> thanks!
[02:06] <eilker> gsuveg: u mean, it didnt work for you too ?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> welcome to the club , q_,
[02:07] <gsuveg> just kidding
[02:07] <IMEC> Jucato: thats more precise i would say
[02:07] <Jucato> wow? kvirc has a new release? thought it was (almost) dead
[02:07] <gsuveg> [02:07]  <gsuveg> < eilker a bit late here
[02:07] <qbit> been using it for years
[02:07] <gsuveg> time to halt now
[02:07] <qbit> but the last one was 3.2.0 that was stable
[02:07] <BluesKaj> konversation is a good iec client
[02:08] <BluesKaj> err irc
[02:08] <qbit> konversation has actually come a long way since the first day I saw it, hugely improved
[02:08] <eilker> gsuveg: [03:06]  <eilker> more later here :)
[02:08] <BluesKaj> suits my taste in graphics and options
[02:08] <q_> thanks, BluesKaj
[02:09] <Jucato> I like Konvi... just because it was the one installed by default and haven't used any other KDE IRC client hehehe
[02:09] <IMEC> konversation is trully improved and if you are a kde freek than it is a must have
[02:09] <Jucato> yep
[02:09] <qbit> I was looking into the Kopete to see if they had built in voice for google talk yet, but no go there
[02:09] <eilker> !dhpc
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <Jucato> very much improved even just comparing with the 0.1x releases
[02:10] <Jucato> !dhcp
[02:10] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[02:10] <BluesKaj> q_, my less than cautious curiosty has led me into the depths of trouble and frustration with Linux , but i sure am learning a lot ...now if i can just remember stuff
[02:10] <Frederick> folks i want to set up hhtp_proxy as a enviroment variable to be loaded with the system in wich file can i do it?
[02:10] <eilker> jucato: hi, my dhcp is not working, i need to know or find a dhcpd.conf
[02:11] <q_> about viruses or ....
[02:11] <Jucato> eilker: I'm not really sure
[02:12] <q_> i read about long learning curve of Linux, but rewarding, don`t you think?
[02:12] <qbit> you think linux has a learning curve go look at solaris 10 for a while   :-)
[02:12] <Jucato> it's only "long" or "difficult" if you've been used to using something else
[02:13] <qbit> yeah - that's true
[02:13] <eilker> jucato: if you have time, could you check yours for me ?  sudo kate /etc/dhcpd.conf          // i dont know what to type
[02:13] <q_> very true
[02:13] <qbit> if you keep studying and learning there is always a break over point somewhere
[02:13] <Jucato> eilker: I don't have dhcp
[02:13] <eilker> jucato: and if u use dhcp:)
[02:13] <Jucato> I mean, I don't use
[02:13] <eilker> jucato: :)) sam time
[02:13] <eilker> jucato: :)) same* time
[02:16] <BluesKaj> q_, for an old retired guy like me , this kubuntu stuff is challenging enuff right now ...maybe other OS's are on the agenda , but that'll much further down the road ...if I'm still around :)
[02:16] <q_> solaris 10 it`s in unices family?
[02:17] <q_> what are you using right now, BlueKay?
[02:17] <qbit> been a "unix" for quite a while
[02:17] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Why does xvidcap always crash?
[02:18] <IMEC> is there any codec lib for flv format (flash video)
[02:18] <IMEC> ?
[02:19] <eilker> ow can i make to run dhcpd server ?
[02:19] <eilker> how can i make to run dhcpd server ?
[02:20] <word> is there a version of the kernel in the repos for 686?
[02:21] <BluesKaj> the edgy version..word ?
[02:21] <word> yes
[02:22] <Jucato> um.. none afaik. the -generic handles all the architectures except ppc and amd64
[02:22] <word> Jucato: would generic be faster than 386?
[02:23] <Jucato> it's optimized for all of them
[02:23] <word> Jucato: ..so the answer is yes?
[02:23] <Kr4t05> word: If you want a 686 kernel, compile one. :)
[02:23] <Jucato> yes
[02:23] <q_> what file sharing program is most usefull
[02:23] <word> cool
[02:24] <q_> i use aMule 2.1.3
[02:24] <Kr4t05> word: If you feel comfortable with making your own kernel, you can always try it with SMP... Unless this is included with Edgy's standard kernel.
[02:24] <soulrider> q_: no warez talk here please
[02:24] <GWild> Can someone here recommend a program for watching DVD's?
[02:24] <GWild> I just installed Edgy
[02:24] <soulrider> Kr4t05: whats SMP ?
[02:25] <word> I don't really feel comf. making my own kernel :-/
[02:25] <soulrider> GWild: youc an use kaffeine
[02:25] <soulrider> or you can downlaod VLC
[02:25] <BluesKaj> !Kaffeine
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Kaffeine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <LjL> !kaffeine
[02:25] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[02:25] <BluesKaj> VLC works well too
[02:25] <GWild> danke - any special libs I need for it to actually play them?
[02:25] <GWild> k
[02:25] <q_> just one more question then about file sharing: it`s illegal?
[02:25] <soulrider> uhm i dont think so
[02:25] <IMEC> word: edgy has generic kernel that has 686 optimizations for your machine by default
[02:26] <crimsun> IMEC: 586, actually.
[02:26] <soulrider> q_: its illegal to share illegal files
[02:26] <soulrider> if youre sharing music, movies
[02:26] <_kuja_> It depends what files you share ....
[02:26] <soulrider> yes, its illegal
[02:26] <yamal> q_: that would of course depend on your local laws
[02:26] <q_> in any country?
[02:26] <word> unless it's public domain / creative commons license / other free licensing
[02:26] <BluesKaj> q_ ... shhhh ... in the US it is ...everywhere else , nobody cares :)
[02:26] <word> q_: mainly in us...
[02:26] <soulrider> q_: in like 99% of hte countries its illegal
[02:27] <word> 99% of the countries that count
[02:27] <word> :P
[02:27] <soulrider> butyes, theres countries in which no one gives a crap :P
[02:27] <BluesKaj> who's counting ...word ?
[02:27] <soulrider> actually, theyve been putting people into jail here for buying and selling pirate DVDs
[02:27] <word> :-p
[02:27] <Kr4t05> soulrider: I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for one moment and say that P2P apps can be used to things other than piracy. And, SMP is symettric multiprocessing, which is not what I meant...  If you want to have a civil conversation about it, you can do so in *-offtopic.
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05 ...wet blanket
[02:32] <Furyfirefox725> hello
[02:33] <_kuja_> hi
[02:34] <IMEC> by the way why does the vanilla kernel in ubuntu not have preemption? it is not experimental or something so why not include it?
[02:34] <Furyfirefox725> I just had a quick question. Everytime kubuntu updates it creates more entries in grub, so every time I boot up 8+ options show up. Is there any way I can edit this "boot-up" list?
[02:34] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: No, I just feel that a support chatroom isn't the best place for a debate.
[02:34] <BluesKaj> it's not a debate , merely a comment
[02:34] <delight> Furyfirefox725 sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:34] <Jucato> Furyfirefox725: you can remove the kernels you don't use. but leave at least one other working kernel as failsafe
[02:35] <Jucato> Furyfirefox725: by remove, I mean uninstall
[02:35] <delight> there ucomment or delete the entries u don't need
[02:35] <Kr4t05> Furyfirefox725: Go with Jucato
[02:35] <delight> yes that was the next i wanted to tell ;)
[02:35] <BluesKaj> the one with the highest number is usually best :)
[02:35] <Kr4t05> Furyfirefox725: Editing the menu.list can screw things up if you're not careful.
[02:35] <yamal> IMEC: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-November/thread.html#22684
[02:36] <Furyfirefox725> ok, so is the newest kernal at the top?
[02:36] <Furyfirefox725> ah I see
[02:36] <Jucato> yep
[02:36] <kai> im back
[02:36] <kai> again
[02:36] <Jucato> newest at top, 2nd newest below it, so on
[02:36] <BluesKaj> usually Furyfirefox725, mine was and i edited mine successfully
[02:37] <eilker> jucato: it says you didnt installed vmware tools, i couldnt find download place for it ?
[02:37] <kai> I re-installed ubuntu for the 3rd time in 2days
[02:37] <kai> Hooray
[02:37] <Jucato> eilker:  vmware player?
[02:37] <eilker> jucato: server
[02:37] <BluesKaj> trying to set records kai ? :)
[02:37] <kai> a word of advice, dont put anything on the bottom of profile
[02:37] <kai> no
[02:37] <_kuja_> kai: that's a lot ...... I don't have the patience for that myself
[02:37] <kai> what command can you use to edit files from the cli?
[02:38] <_kuja_> either nano or vim, to your own preference of course
[02:38] <kai> I put the class path at the bottom of the profile, its screwed me a few time
[02:38] <kai> I dont know a lot
[02:38] <kai> and I also know vim didn't work
[02:38] <Furyfirefox725> ok in nano, how do you save what you have edited?
[02:38] <kai> in safe mode a LOT of commands don't work
[02:39] <_kuja_> vim always works, just the mysterious lord vim works in mysterious ways ;)
[02:39] <kai> isnt it ;qw!
[02:39] <_kuja_> Nope
[02:39] <_kuja_> :wq!
[02:39] <_kuja_> And it's picky about it
[02:39] <kai> vim did nothing
[02:39] <kai> Safe mode disables a lot of commands
[02:39] <_kuja_> Safe mode?
[02:40] <kai> cus I know where it screwed and all I could was go in the directory
[02:40] <kai> yep
[02:40] <tazz> i am running kubuntu with kde version 3.5.2 what is the best way to upgrade to 3.5.5 and would you recommend it?
[02:40] <_kuja_> If you were terribly unlucky, it could have dropped you to busybox or something, which wouldn't be fun.
[02:40] <kai> cant you do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:40] <kai> lol
[02:41] <_kuja_> tazz: you can either switch to edgy, or add the kde 3.5.5 repo to your repo list
[02:41] <kai> or cant you do apt-get install dist-upgrade
[02:41] <Furyfirefox725> hey how do you save in nano?
[02:41] <kai> Im about to upgrade in a few moments
[02:41] <kai> :wq!
[02:41] <kai> ha beat ya to it
[02:41] <Jucato> Furyfirefox725: Ctrl+O to overwrite
[02:41] <Jucato> kai: nano, not vim
[02:41] <_kuja_> in which case, said repo would http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde355 dapper main
[02:42] <Furyfirefox725> ok thanks :)
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> ctrl-x
[02:42] <kai> isnt it :wq! as wel
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> kai: not vi
[02:42] <delight> tazz u got to possibilitys IMHO either upgrade to edgy or use the deb-repo mentioned on kubuntu.org ... some ppl had problems with the upgrade of dapper -> edgy ...
[02:42] <Jucato> tazz: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[02:42] <kai> One day, I'll know something
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> kai: not nano, and btw - in vi :x will work as well
[02:42] <delight> thou u might have problems with the kubuntu kde-355 too ...
[02:42] <tazz> thanks guys
[02:42] <kai> All the distro are also diffrent
[02:42] <kai> *all so
[02:43] <Jucato> but use the same apps. nano doesn't use ":" notation :)
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> kai: not the distro, just the program. nano vs vi 2 totally different editors, both are available.
[02:43] <kai> you can ask me a few suse question as long as its not a wireless one
[02:43] <kai> no kiddin
[02:43] <delight> updating to kde355 is very recomendable thou ... esp as u will get a very fast konqueror browser ... don't know what they did but its really quick in 355
[02:43] <kai> wireless and linux seemilgy was never meant to be
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> biab, gotta restart X, just reinstalled edgy clean, I haven't installed clean since hoary. :)
[02:45] <kai> _kuja_: your one of the very few that actually just chats on here
[02:45] <_kuja_> kai: Boredom does strange things to people.
[02:46] <kai> _kuja_: I like to come on here and just chat sometime, but all these people sometimes just seem so dead
[02:46] <kai> _kuja_: but its weird if they were friendly and got to know people when they need help, some1 would actually help them ya'know
[02:47] <BluesKaj> noi kidding kai, I've been retired for 8 yrs now and the linux bug bit me hard :)
[02:47] <kai> yea
[02:47] <_kuja_> Depends what time it is when you're around ...... never know when I might show up ... at some times of the day it's really dead, seemed so this afternoon ... seems lively around 3am though :)
[02:47] <kai> _kuja_: I wanted something diffrent and I started using linux
[02:47] <kai> _kuja_: theres a lot I like but the small things you do in linux is no big deal in windows
[02:47] <_kuja_> I started into linux for a hodgepodge of reasons
[02:48] <kai> like wireless and USB
[02:48] <BluesKaj> ppl here quite helpful and chatty at times , but sometimes the offtopic cops remind us why ppl come here :)
[02:48] <Tux_AX> haha
[02:48] <Tux_AX> haha
[02:48] <kai> _kuja_: in linux your like omg my wireless works
[02:48] <Tux_AX> and sound ;)
[02:48] <_kuja_> From all I've heard about other people's exeperiences with wireless, it sounds like a nightmare
[02:48] <kai> _kuja_: but that all part of the fun in linux, it helps you become more techincal and be a better problem solver tho
[02:49] <kai> _kuja_: my wireless card can detect networks but it still can't connect
[02:49] <BluesKaj> yeah , i have a wireless capable system , but i don't see any advantages other than bragging rights :)
[02:49] <_kuja_> Yeah, I broke my system enough times in debian sid, I learned :)
[02:50] <Tux_AX> What I like about linux is if you break it, you can re-install it in less than 15 minutes
[02:50] <kai> Tux_AX: my behind in less tahn 15min
[02:50] <Tux_AX> indeed
[02:50] <kai> Tux_AX: Are you installing on IBM big Blue
[02:50] <_kuja_> Tux_AX: my sound has always worked in linux, it has just never worked quite right
[02:51] <Tux_AX> not fully installedm just the base system
[02:51] <kai> oh
[02:51] <kai> Thats a gud idea
[02:51] <_kuja_> the live cd installs pretty fast ....
[02:51] <kai> and install the desktop stuff later?
[02:51] <Tux_AX> I also keep all my data on a USB stick for fast file transfer later
[02:51] <kai> Im running live cd but it take a min, I hate how the partioer works tho
[02:52] <kai> linux is a horriable partion manager
[02:52] <_kuja_> Yeah ..... that's how I do it ..... base system + xorg + kde-core + kubuntu-default-settings, and I fill in the holes as I need them, leaves me with only stuff I actually use.
[02:52] <_kuja_> kai: have you used gnu parted before?
[02:52] <kai> sweet
[02:52] <BluesKaj> the best partitioner is GParted ...live cd
[02:52] <kai> _kuja_: whats that?
[02:52] <kai> no, i mena how it sets them
[02:52] <_kuja_> I don't know, I kind of liked Mandriva's disk drake
[02:53] <BluesKaj> same as GParted
[02:53] <kai> if you have a 200gb hdd, linux make 100 for /, and 100 for /home
[02:53] <kai> Thats lame
[02:53] <_kuja_> gnu parted = GNUs partioning program, has a cli interface
[02:53] <kai> You have to manually edit it
[02:53] <kai> no
[02:53] <kai> I never heard of it
[02:53] <kai> till now
[02:54] <kai> i remeber one: my usb HDD went out
[02:54] <_kuja_> kai: a smarter way to do it would be more like 10gb for linux, the 190gb for home. / won't use 100gb of space, or anywhere near it for that matter
[02:54] <kai> I re-installed Suse 3 times, still didn't work and one xmas moring it worked
[02:54] <kai> Thats what I do, but I have to edit it myself
[02:55] <_kuja_> Not really, you could just tell it to wipe your whole disk and create partitions for you.
[02:55] <kai> ..I also don't like .tars, I installed all these tars and ran outa space, and had no clue how to remove them
[02:55] <kai> Thats what I been doing, but it want to defualt all the time
[02:56] <kai> ..and I always have to go back and change it
[02:56] <_kuja_> .tars? any idea where you put them? It's usually a better idea to use apt to install things.
[02:56] <kai> I know that know
[02:56] <kai> *now
[02:56] <kai> This is when I first started using linux
[02:56] <IMEC> installing things from tar files are prone to break your environment?
[02:56] <kai> it took me 2 weeks to figure how to get mp3 and mpg support
[02:56] <IMEC> err no question mark
[02:56] <Tyrial> Hello Kai
[02:56] <_kuja_> IMEC: Not break, they're just a pain to remove.
[02:56] <kai> wasup Tyrial
[02:57] <Tyrial> Remember me? :)
[02:57] <Tyrial> I finaly found you :D
[02:57] <kai> I was doin some webserver stuff and ran out space from tar, thats when i got hip to rpms at the time
[02:57] <Tyrial> How are you?
[02:57] <IMEC> they do break your environment when you have multiple versions of the same thing
[02:57] <kai> no
[02:57] <Tyrial> hmm
[02:57] <kai> theres more than 1 kai
[02:57] <Tyrial> AH
[02:57] <Tyrial> So, you are not the one who played Graal before?
[02:57] <kai> I happen to grab kai this time round
[02:58] <kai> wtf is Graal
[02:58] <Tyrial> tfu
[02:58] <Tyrial> stfu
[02:58] <velle> kai er nede med den fede dialekt mf
[02:58] <kai> great
[02:59] <kai> Im being cussed in a whole other language for something I never did
[02:59] <kai> life is good
[02:59] <_kuja_> lol
[02:59] <IMEC> besides if the makefile has an uninstall section you can uninstall easy enough.... and if you want you can always make a package out of your configured installation so that you can unistall it with your package manager
[03:00] <kai> i'm not good enouugh to know that, or even begin to do it
[03:00] <kai> I been using linux for about 5 or so moneths now
[03:00] <_kuja_> IMEC: never said you couldn't ... in fact, I do that sometimes, in the rare event I need something not in the repos (like mplayer RC1)
[03:01] <IMEC> still configure it make it but dont just make install it .... checkinstall and then put the package... safer to remove
[03:01] <_kuja_> I've been using it almost two years :) Amazing how everything else is what feels awkward and hard to work with now
[03:02] <kai> I , of course, grew up with windows and will never be hard to use
[03:02] <kai> windows has far too many security and virus issues
[03:02] <kai> on windows b4 I switch I got rid of my C;
[03:02] <_kuja_> So did I kai, but you'd be surprised how icky it gets to feeling after a couple years solid linux use ... heck, doesn't even take that long really.
[03:03] <kai> and instead had r: and S;...
[03:03] <kai> still got virus and other stop
[03:03] <kai> I love linux even tho its a pain in the rump to use
[03:03] <_kuja_> What about it is a pain in the rump to use?
[03:04] <kai> _kuja_: what distro wold you recomment to a newb
[03:04] <vado> Hi
[03:04] <_kuja_> Hmm, I'm not sure
[03:04] <eilker> jucato:i created and deleted a virtual machine, i gave 5 gb space to it, i deleted ubuntu folder /var/vm  , but my 5 gb gone too :)) cant i get my 5 gb back ?
[03:05] <_kuja_> I've not really tried enough, and even when I started, I exited the newb phase too quick to be a good judge
[03:05] <kai> _kuja_: are you bragging
[03:05] <kai> are you a developer?
[03:05] <_kuja_> I'm working at becoming one
[03:05] <kai> what language
[03:05] <_kuja_> Probably will be within the next year or so
[03:06] <_kuja_> I'm not going to tie myself down to any specific language ... every language has its own purpose :)
[03:06] <kai> im goin for java
[03:06] <kai> and sql
[03:06] <kai> I hate c++
[03:06] <kai> I hate pointers
[03:06] <_kuja_> For quick and dirty things python or ruby, for more complicated things c++ or java
[03:07] <_kuja_> pointers may indeed be the scourge of the earth >.<
[03:07] <kai> lol
[03:07] <kai> passin pointer, address, dot operators
[03:07] <kai> passing pointers to functions
[03:07] <kai> pointers to pointers
[03:07] <kai> Iw ant nothing to do with it
[03:07] <john> what's the point?
[03:07] <kai> god I hate pointers
[03:08] <eilker> xz: ok
[03:08] <IMEC> depends on what you wanna do kai ...
[03:09] <kai> whats the command to upgrade from 6.06. to 6.1?
[03:09] <Jucato> !upgrade | kai
[03:09] <ubotu> kai: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:09] <kai> web devel and mayb a lil rich client
[03:09] <kai> no games
[03:09] <kai> or anything that needs tot alk to hardware
[03:10] <IMEC> device drivers without the use of pointers that should be interesting to see ....
[03:10] <kai> lol
[03:11] <kai> Thats why I don't/can't  do it
[03:12] <kai> or a game
[03:12] <kai> Like gers of war
[03:12] <kai> all the pointing
[03:12] <Zarephath> Anyone use lingoteach?
[03:13] <Zarephath> Can't find the lesson files although I did apt-get lingoteach-lesson
[03:13] <_kuja_> Zarephath: Not I
[03:13] <kai> is there a command to tell you what version of kubuntu your using?
[03:13] <Jucato> lsb_release -a
[03:13] <_kuja_> Yes one sec while I dig it up
[03:14] <_kuja_> wait, that's the one
[03:14] <_kuja_> And Jucato has saved me from digging :)
[03:14] <Jucato> :P
[03:14] <_kuja_> The name of that command bugs me
[03:14] <kai> sweet
[03:14] <kai> thanx
[03:14] <kai> Hmm
[03:14] <kai> its not letting me upgrade
[03:15] <Jucato> you followed the guide mentioned?
[03:15] <kai> Yea
[03:15] <kai> cut,copy and paste
[03:16] <_kuja_> Jucato, just what does the lsb in lsb_release stand for anyway?
[03:16] <_kuja_> wait, never mind
[03:16] <Jucato> Linux Standard Base
[03:16] <kai> do you need to have the gnome to do it
[03:16] <Jucato> kai: no. that guide was very Kubuntu specific
[03:16] <Jucato> !upgrade
[03:16] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:16] <Jucato> kai: ^^^^^^^
[03:17] <fildo> im still on dapper
[03:17] <kai> what
[03:17] <fildo> many of use migrated ?
[03:17] <kai> whoa
[03:17] <kai> brb
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: did you see this? http://annma.blogspot.com/2006/11/qt-love.html
[03:18] <Jucato> fildo: there's no reason to upgrade to Edgy unless 1) you absolutely need something that's only on Edgy or 2) you really need to :)
[03:18] <fildo> yah i did b4
[03:18] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: yes. :)
[03:19] <fildo> then hdd failure on lappy. so i went back to dapper
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> it made me lol at like 9.30 in the morning
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> then i went back to bed
[03:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I see she put back the nicks :)
[03:19] <_kuja_> Jucato: but edgy  ... is ... is ... sexy! :O
[03:19] <fildo> only cause im easily pleased with shipit cd's n a quick install
[03:20] <Jucato> hehe
[03:21] <_kuja_> *GASP*
[03:22] <kai> I found out whats wrong
[03:23] <gtrplr> I am looking for a little efnet/irc help. Efnet keeps seeing y IP as <IP_ADDRESS>  (I have gidentd installed)
[03:23] <gtrplr> I keep getting banned
[03:24] <_kuja_> wouldn't wanna be banned too many times .... a kline wouldn't be a nice experience
[03:24] <gtrplr> exactly
[03:24] <eilker> jucato: r u here ?
[03:24] <gtrplr> really odd...I changed nothing
[03:25] <Jucato> eilker: yes
[03:25] <gtrplr> I thought maybe the client had gotten screwed, so I tried 2 other clients...same thing
[03:25] <q_> bye
[03:25] <rizwaan> hey guys,
[03:25] <rizwaan> noise in recording
[03:26] <rizwaan> with audacity
[03:26] <kai> can I get that command one more time for what version your running, I gotta save that bad boy
[03:26] <gtrplr> turn off the radio first
[03:26] <gtrplr> :)
[03:26] <eilker> jucato: for testing, i created and deleted (before installing guest os) a new virtual machine, gaved it 5 gb space, (guest os was ubuntu) , than deleted var/vm/ubuntu , but my 5 gb is lost
[03:26] <eilker> jucato: what should i do ?
[03:26] <Jucato> _kuja_: what quote?
[03:27] <Jucato> eilker: what do you mean by "lost"?
[03:27] <_kuja_> http://annma.blogspot.com/2006/11/qt-love.html
[03:27] <Jucato> ah that one.heheh :)
[03:27] <rizwaan> "arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o Recording.ogg" <- doesn't give noise in the recording
[03:27] <rizwaan> but audacity does
[03:27] <eilker> jucato: when i type df -h , it shows full space including 5 gb
[03:27] <gtrplr> rizwaan: what kind of noise?
[03:28] <rizwaan> as if bad tuning
[03:28] <gtrplr> aliasing ?
[03:28] <rizwaan> krrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:28] <gtrplr> fro a mic or what kind of input
[03:28] <rizwaan> arecord works fine..
[03:28] <rizwaan> yes with mic
[03:28] <eilker> jucato: isnt it enough deleting var/vm/ubuntu  , for deleting a virtual machine ?
[03:28] <gtrplr> 1st: try a different mic
[03:29] <rizwaan> same mic works with arecord
[03:29] <rizwaan> please try this "arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o Recording.ogg"
[03:29] <gtrplr> but different apps see the imped differently
[03:29] <Jucato> eilker: where do you save your virtual machines? (.vmdk)?
[03:29] <rizwaan> seems oss vs alsa issue
[03:29] <kai> Im about to watch some family guy
[03:29] <gtrplr> usually is
[03:30] <rizwaan> how could i make oss use alsa..
[03:30] <BetaCookies> [Killing X server]  Be right back
[03:30] <eilker> jucato: i dont know, let me search , i did all as default
[03:30] <kai> I also wanna beat gears of war on insane
[03:30] <Jucato> eilker: if you deleted the virtual machine from VMWare server, the vmware folder for it isn't deleted, afaik
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you're not in #offtopic?
[03:33] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not currently.. gotta go anyway... brb in a few
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> ah see you around
[03:33] <eilker> jucato: searching for it...
[03:36] <kai> Say can I get that command to check my ubuntu version one more time
[03:37] <rizwaan> is there any good arecord (alsa record) frontend?
[03:37] <rizwaan> kde simply lacks a good sound recorder
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> audacity?
[03:38] <pi1l> please, i have a serious question: how do i quickly convert wav file into mp3, preferably quick and easy, maybe bash tools will do as well?
[03:39] <Admiral_Chicago> pi1l: lame should work iirc
[03:39] <pi1l> Admiral_Chicago how do i setup\launch it?
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install lame in a konsole
[03:42] <pi1l> Admiral_Chicago, Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. What should i do?
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get -f install lame maybe
[03:43] <eilker> jucato: i delted var/vm/ubuntu
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> pi1l:   lame sample.wav sample.mp3 from command line
[03:43] <eilker> jucato: i deleted* var/vm/ubuntu
[03:44] <eilker> jucato: but still my 5 gb lost
[03:44] <Jucato> eilker: where did you delete it? in the command line or in Konqueror
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> once it is installed that is
[03:44] <eilker> jucato: konqueror
[03:44] <Jucato> eilker: it's still in the Trash then :)
[03:45] <eilker> jucato: i checked it is not in trash
[03:45] <Jucato> oh?
[03:45] <Jucato> trash:/
[03:45] <Jucato> hm.. that would be strange...
[03:46] <eilker> jucato: and it was not in trash too, i tried to delete from trash too, checked but it was not there
[03:48] <pi1l> Admiral_Chicago, thanx, but it doesn't want to install anyway..
[03:48] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i have an nvidia video card... what kind of tweaks can i give to improve performance
[03:48] <Jucato> eilker: sorry, I don't know where else it went.. and I'm not sure where to look for it..
[03:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: any ideas: "Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[03:49] <Jucato> edgy?
[03:50] <eilker> jucato: what a luck:(
[03:50] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[03:51] <yamal> ForzaPalermo: you could install the drivers for it
[03:51] <Jucato> I can install lame here
[03:51] <yamal> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <yamal> !info lame
[03:51] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i have edgy, it installs just fine
[03:51] <Jucato> um... sorry have to run
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> yamal, i have that
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> the beta drivers
[03:52] <ForzaPalermo> i know there are xorg tweaks and what not
[03:53] <yamal> ForzaPalermo: nothing spectacular to tweak then, maybe remove that logo, etc but that's about it
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> pi1l: sudo dpkg-regonfigure -a
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> then try to install
[04:00] <mglnx> hi
[04:00] <ForzaPalermo> hey how do i get the windows key to do something?
[04:00] <ForzaPalermo> like have kmenu activate
[04:00] <knapp_> How can I do a traceroute from terminal?
[04:00] <mglnx> i have two DVD's and I'd like to find a gui program to butn directly, as opposed to have to burn on the hdd first then copy it two the second DVD. Is this possible with linux?
[04:00] <pi1l> Admiral_Chicago, thanx a lot, i finally managed to install glame with synaptic tool, and now i think i quite happy with the solution:)
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !traceroute
[04:01] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[04:01] <pi1l> ForzaPalermo, of course you can, visit the system configuration tool, section "hotkeys"
[04:01] <BluesKaj> traceroute then the IP address
[04:01] <pi1l> ForzaPalermo, or "shortcuts"
[04:02] <RobNyc> My firefox nor Swiftfox wants to open
[04:02] <ForzaPalermo> pi1l, i know this may sound stupid... im in there i just dont know how to set that specific key
[04:02] <ForzaPalermo> for that action
[04:02] <ForzaPalermo> i cant find it
[04:03] <BluesKaj> RobNyc , sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:04] <pi1l> ForzaPalermo, use it in combination with others
[04:04] <ForzaPalermo> why cant it be by itself?
[04:04] <RobNyc> BluesKaj, i have switffox installed and now its like its not installed
[04:05] <BluesKaj> RobNyc , try that command in the terminal and you'll see a choice
[04:06] <RobNyc> yea i saw konqueror or firefox
[04:06] <RobNyc> what do u guys prefer
[04:08] <RobNyc> why do i have a swiftfox icon on my programs and i was just running swiftfox before and now its gone
[04:09] <BluesKaj> I use Firefox
[04:09] <RobNyc> weird firefox is only running if i type in terminal firefox
[04:09] <BluesKaj> have you upgraded your desktop lately, RobNyc ?
[04:10] <RobNyc> yes lol
[04:12] <BluesKaj> reinstall both FF & swiftfox
[04:12] <RobNyc> alrighty
[04:18] <pi1l> how do i resize a fat 32 partition and add ext3 partition to my disk?
[04:20] <root_> For some reason when I upgrade it didnt install   my xorg stuff
[04:20] <rizwaan> how to load OSS emulation at the startup (boot up)
[04:20] <rizwaan> LOAD_OSS_EMUL_MODULES="yes"
[04:20] <rizwaan> what's the configuration file to edit..
[04:20] <root_> this i kai by the way
[04:21] <BluesKaj> pi1l, DL GParted live cd , and use it to partition your HDD ...it works well ..can even specify the size of yer swap
[04:22] <pi1l> BluesKaj, thanx, i am installing it alredy now)
[04:22] <BluesKaj> kai get the hell out of root before someone takes ob=ver yer pc
[04:26] <tolkan> who here uses that console irc client
[04:27] <abattoir> tolkan: irssi ?
[04:27] <tolkan> yeah that
[04:27] <tolkan> how do i set that up
[04:27] <tolkan> i need to idle in there on one of the wpi servers
[04:27] <Hawkwind> !irssi | tolkan
[04:27] <ubotu> tolkan: irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[04:28] <tolkan> oh, i'm in the wrong channel :-D
[04:28] <tolkan> you guys are still the best.
[04:28] <Hawkwind> Irssi is a modular IRC client for UNIX that currently has only text mode user interface, but 80-90% of the code isn't text mode specific, so other UIs could be created pretty easily. Homepage: http://irssi.org  Great how-to: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[04:33] <poolkey172> anyone know where I can get the package for kiba dock ?
[04:33] <kai> 'ello every one
[04:35] <kai> whats the website for the repositories?
[04:36] <kai> Jucato: how do you do the thing for the repositories?
[04:37] <kai> Jucato: for the bot with the websites
[04:39] <mrg> how do i get "console ownership"? i'm trying to run a shell script and it bugs out bc i don't have console ownership..
[04:40] <Lam_> mrg: sudo ./scripthere
[04:41] <Lam_> unless i'm misunderstanding console ownership
[04:43] <mrg> Lam_: same error
[04:48] <mrg> 1billion pagers are eager to tell you how to install the ati proprietary drivers, but how do i uninstall it?  i used easyubuntu to install but have no clue how to uninstall it. ati recommends uninstalling before installing another version.
[04:49] <tolkan> replace it with vesa in your xorg.conf
[04:50] <tolkan> and then do apt-get remove the packages that you installed on those sites
[04:50] <knapp> How can I get AVI/MPG/etc to show thumbnail previews in folders?
[04:52] <mrg> easyubuntu did the install though, i don't even know what the packages were for  that... i can't find any "ati" packages..
[04:53] <Jucato> it might be called fglrx
[04:53] <bulwynkl> neat
[04:53] <bulwynkl> !LVM
[04:54] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:54] <mrg> yeah i tried looking for /usr/share/fglrx as the instructions on the ati site says, but easyubuntu must have installed something else..
[04:54] <mrg> bc that folder doesn't exist
[04:56] <Jucato> I'm not sure if there's an #easyubuntu channel. they are not really supported by ubuntu actually
[04:56] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[04:56] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:56] <Jucato> oh there mrg ^^^^
[04:58] <knapp> How can I get audio/video thumbnail previews in Konqueror
[04:58] <mrg> ok sounds like a logical channel for this question :) ty
[05:05] <inteliwasp> anyone have any experience with conky? for some reason the icons are dissaparing from my desktop untill i move my mouse over them
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Never heard of it. :)
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !info conky
[05:07] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[05:07] <Jucato> I only know Konqi :P
[05:08] <secleinteer> hey, does anyone know how i can join an aim chatroom with kopete?
[05:10] <inteliwasp> !konqi
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <pi1l> can anybody tell me how to move /usr to a new partition: copy /usr to /dev/hdb6, write in /etc/fstab a line "/dev/hdb6       /usr                ext3          defaults,errors=remount-ro    0    1", delete then all /usr(!!!) and reboot, that will do?
[05:41] <kai> can some1 help me set the class path
[05:42] <kai> please
[05:43] <kai> I dont wanna re-install, again
[05:43] <draeath> anyone know if I can make arts NOT lock my alsa device? My alsa device can handle (and does... i've got a working .conf) multiple streams
[05:46] <crimsun> draeath: if you have to use an asoundrc to get dmix, your alsa device _can't_, by definition, handle multiple streams in hardware.
[05:48] <draeath> draeath: well... thats what's going on. Is there a way I can make artsd use that, and NOT lock the device?
[05:48] <crimsun> draeath: anyhow, set the timeout for artsd to 1s
[05:51] <draeath> crimsun: woa, its working now! i started aplay while kde was making noise... and then i let arts suspend. then i got arts to make noise while aplayt was playing. apparently i just needed to restart ARTS after enabling my .asoundrc
[05:52] <draeath> crimsun: now the real test... see if system notifications work while kaffeine is using arts output
[05:52] <draeath> crimsun: and it does.
[05:52] <draeath> this file is SOO going in my backups
[05:53] <draeath> crimsun: i turned off arts suspending and its still all playing nicely
[05:53] <mortici> how do i get to the synaptics package manager?
[05:53] <draeath> mortici 'apt-get install synaptic' in a console
[05:53] <crimsun> draeath: you shouldn't need to create an asoundrc anyhow unless you have a usb audio device
[05:53] <draeath> crimsun: i do.
[05:54] <draeath> crimsun: and i put it in the global file (forgot the /etc filename already)
[05:54] <crimsun> draeath: I hope you don't want good performance, then
[05:54] <crimsun> /etc/asound.conf
[05:54] <draeath> crimsun: works fine for me, it seems
[05:54] <crimsun> I didn't enable dmix for usb-audio devices in Ubuntu because there are too many quirks.
[05:54] <draeath> i even got timidity working with the 8mb soundfont ripped from my windows install!
[05:54] <draeath> hah!
[05:55] <crimsun> there are several wishlist bugs to enable dmix for usb-audio, but I'm not convinced it's worth the number of bug reports that will come in
[05:55] <draeath> i just wish i could use a real driver. external SBLive 24
[05:56] <crimsun> extigy?
[05:56] <draeath> nope
[05:56] <draeath> the cheap one
[05:56] <crimsun> ouch
[05:56] <crimsun> I'm sorry you wasted your money.
[05:56] <draeath> me too, but it was $50 a long time ago
[05:56] <draeath> so i'm not crying
[06:00] <pulaski> hello
[06:02] <mortici> ok
[06:02] <pulaski> I've newly installed kubuntu and I'm having trouble updating with my dialup connection.  Is is common that adept frequently signifies errors for certain updates from certain repositories?
[06:03] <pulaski> Does it matter that I resort to the command line and repeatedly do a "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:03] <pulaski> ?
[06:04] <pulaski> I'm showing over 148 updated packages available.  It that normal?
[06:05] <pulaski> I would appreciate any comment.
[06:11] <pulaski> my older ubuntu distro generally seemed to update without error.  Occasionally I may have had to repeat an update or follow up with a "sudo apt-get -f install".  This kubuntu update process is difficult with a dial up. Can anyone let me know how extraordinary this may or may not be?
[06:11] <Flighter> can anyone send me the kdm .xml file?
[06:12] <abattoir> pulaski: you just want to update your OS, or do you want to upgrade, i.e. move from dapper to edgy, for example
[06:13] <abattoir> pulaski: if it is the former, then 'sudo apt-get update' and the 'sudo apt-get upgrade' should work
[06:13] <Zaire> anyone in here know how postfix is configured...the helps a tad vague
[06:13] <abattoir> you could use aptitude instead of apt-get as well
[06:13] <kai> Does any one here have any experiance with setting the classpath
[06:13] <smithbone> I need a bit of help installing 6.10 on my HP nx6325.
[06:13] <pulaski> thank you for responding abattoir, just a simple update to a new dapper 6.06 kubuntu insall is all I'm trying to do.
[06:14] <mortici> where can i get the libdrm 2.2?
[06:14] <crimsun> you can't, mortici.
[06:14] <mortici> why not?
[06:14] <crimsun> we haven't merged 2.2 at all.
[06:14] <abattoir> pulaski: make sure you have the dapper-updates/dapper-backports repos enabled if you want stuff from them
[06:14] <mortici> :(
[06:14] <abattoir> pulaski: then follow what i said earlier
[06:15] <mortici> when will it be merged?
[06:15] <Zaire> anyone in here know how postfix is configured...the helps a tad vague
[06:15] <pulaski> yes thank you  those repositories are uncommented on my sources.list abbatoir.
[06:16] <Flighter> can anyone send the the .xml file of the kdm theme?
[06:17] <Zaire> -_-
[06:17] <abattoir> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <pulaski> ok abbatoir, I'll give aptitude a try.  thanks for the help!
[06:18] <abattoir> pulaski: no problem :)
[06:18] <pulaski> I'll cya
[06:18] <Zaire> -_-
[06:18] <mortici> im liking kubuntu already
[06:19] <mortici> just this whole sudo blah blah blah thing ain't working for me
[06:19] <Zaire> thats the best part
[06:19] <mortici> hmph
[06:19] <Zaire> way easier for installing stuff
[06:19] <mortici> well i prefer to su, then run the commands
[06:19] <abattoir> Flighter: http://pastebin.ca/263122
[06:19] <abattoir> !su | mortici
[06:19] <ubotu> mortici: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:20] <mortici> but it seems to not like my password for root, then again it never asked me for one
[06:20] <abattoir> mortici: you can do that too if you want
[06:20] <Zaire> so....anyone in here know how postfix is configured...the helps a tad vague
[06:20] <smithbone> any installer gurus around?
[06:20] <crimsun> mortici: it might not be.
[06:20] <mortici> ?
[06:21] <Flighter> abattoir: when you type a wrong password, does it shows any message?
[06:22] <abattoir> Flighter: yes it does
[06:22] <abattoir> Flighter: "Login Incorrect" iirc
[06:22] <phen> can anyone help me install my TV-tuner on Kubuntu
[06:23] <Flighter> abattoir: your lang is english?
[06:24] <abattoir> Flighter: yes
[06:24] <Flighter> i need to know from someone that isnt english
[06:24] <abattoir> Flighter: which lang?
[06:26] <Zaire> so....anyone in here know how postfix is configured...the helps a tad vague
[06:26] <Flighter> abattoir: anyone
[06:26] <abattoir> !de
[06:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:26] <abattoir> Flighter: ^^^ try there for german, for eg.
[06:27] <abattoir> anyway, i have to go now :)
[06:27] <Flighter> just need to see a .xml file in wich the login fail shows a non english message
[06:27] <Flighter> cause in all .xml files i see they all have <text>Login failed!</text>
[06:27] <Flighter> and that doesnt give space for any translation
[06:28] <Flighter> and for the other messages like warning about caps lock theres option for translation
[06:29] <Flighter> abattoir: understand now?
[06:29] <Zaire> guess thats a no as usual
[06:41] <mortici> how do i change my screen resolution
[06:42] <mortici> or restart my x server?
[06:55] <Dr_willis>  !fixres
[06:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:02] <londo4> hallo who can help with this problem; Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg
[07:06] <brad123> i need help getting amarok to build a collection. im having a problem. it doesnt find the music but i told it where to look. and how can i run the first run wizard again? i installed it first without installing mysql-server5.0 first.
[07:09] <londo4> Help: Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg When I sudo apt-get update
[07:10] <paitart> hi. just installed kubuntu 6.06 and firefox too. how do i upgrade firefox from 1.5 to 2.0
[07:14] <londo4> Help:Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg. Could not resolve 'packages.freecontrib.org'  When I do sudo apt-get update
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> brad123: did you try "rescan collection" in tools
[07:20] <paitart> hi. just installed kubuntu 6.06 and firefox too. how do i upgrade firefox from 1.5 to 2.0
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> paitart: download it from here...
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> then in the command line type this
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> cd Desktop (assuming it's on the desktop)
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> cp ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> cd /opt
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo mkdir mozilla
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> cd Desktop
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo cp "firefox file name" /opt/mozilla
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> cd /opt
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> err scratch that last command
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> cd /opt/mozilla
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ls
[07:25] <drarem> i can't stop lighttpd, but i can start it apparently. it wont let me do a sudo apt-get remove on it - i'm already running apache
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> if you get the file that was "firefox file name" you did it right
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> paitart: also, extract the firefox tar.gz before you start, you'll move that folder
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> let me know when you got all that done
[07:28] <mortici> how do i change my screen resolution
[07:28] <mortici> Admiral_Chicago, as in the club?
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> mortici: club? oh no not at all. rofl
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> well Admiral Club at the airport not "the Admiral" gentleman club
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !res > mortici
[07:30] <londo4> Help Help-->Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg Could not resolve 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[07:41] <t3hwiz0rd> can someone help me out here?
[07:41] <t3hwiz0rd> I've got my old harddrive loaded into a ide-to-usb device
[07:41] <t3hwiz0rd> its reisfers/ex3
[07:41] <t3hwiz0rd> kubuntu liveCD sees it
[07:41] <t3hwiz0rd> but will not mount it
[07:42] <t3hwiz0rd> repords this error:
[07:42] <t3hwiz0rd> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,
[07:42] <t3hwiz0rd>        missing codepage or other error
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i keep getting this error while trying to use a liveCD "can not allocate resource region 0 of Device'
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> and it has this repeated 0-3
[07:44] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know of a good program to download a streaming .rm file
[07:45] <londo4> someone   help my kubuntu doesn`t detect usb stik
[07:49] <mortici> OMG it works like a buty
[07:49] <mortici> i think i messed myself
[07:49] <poningru> sweet
[07:49] <mortici> i love kubuntu
[07:49] <mortici> i want it to have my babies
[07:49] <poningru> ...
[07:49] <poningru> I know we preach love and humanity... its just not that kinda love
[07:49] <mortici> now how do i change settings in kde settings manager
[07:49] <londo4> prm`richard: I`m unregisterd  I can`t send prived message
[07:50] <mortici> that require administrator rights
[07:50] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know how to download rtsp streaming real media files?
[07:52] <mortici> ?
[07:58] <bill57785> ok, where is Konquer actually located on the hard drive? I'm trying to install Flash PLayer 7 for it, but it needs a directory
[07:59] <Emess> sadly i donth think thats a glitch
[07:59] <Emess> ...wrong channel :s
[08:00] <max_> is there any other things that you could do that are like the "eyecandy" besides XGL(cant run it) Transluncey and
[08:00] <max_> 3ddesktop
[08:02] <max_> is there any other things that you could do that are like the "eyecandy" besides XGL(cant run it) Transluncey and 3ddesktop
[08:03] <londo4> Help Help-->Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg Could not resolve 'packages.freecontrib.org'
[08:18] <g6issenh> coucou
[08:33] <max_> hi. i got an X error and it took me back to the login screen, and now when i login it looks very "basic" and im missing my whole panel so i cant do anything, and i dont know what happenes.....sory its to vauge, i dont know how to describe it
[08:37] <jason_> I am having a minor graphics problem which seems to be related to opengl. Whenever a screensaver is running or I am playing WoW, the screen will sort of stutter every 10 seconds or so... any ideas?
[08:40] <isede> i have ntfs partition mounted from kubuntu , but in many of them i cannot see any files (i am sure files are there). i cannot boot into windows cuz i accidentally deleted some necessary files
[08:40] <isede> any ideas what is wrong with the ntfs mount?
[08:40] <isede> in many of the folders i cannot see any files, sorry
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> how can i change how often Ktorrent updates?
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> jono: ping
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> err, maybe we can talk in locoteams instead
[09:03] <Jucato> :)
[09:05] <musya> does anybody know if kubuntu is available in 64 bit?
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> musya: yes
[09:06] <binary2k2> musya: it'll be difficult to do some things in 64bit tho, play flash for example
[09:06] <Jucato> w32codecs, too
[09:07] <musya> why would that be difficult? on any 64 bit or just kubuntu?
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> it's possible but a pain
[09:07] <binary2k2> well yeah, that's why it's got "32" in it :p
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> musya: any
[09:07] <musya> why?
[09:07] <musya> if you dont mind me asking
[09:08] <binary2k2> because flash isn't open source, and adobe haven't made a 64bit version
[09:08] <binary2k2> if it was open source, we could port it, but it's not
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> the actual numerical values of handling raw data is double as well
[09:09] <musya> what else would be hard?
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> musya: non-free software in general
[09:10] <musya> hmmm, ok
[09:10] <binary2k2> well, like Admiral_Chicago said, w32codecs won't work, because they are 32bit, so restricted formats will be hard to use
[09:10] <musya> how many binaries are in 32 bit. and in 64 bit?
[09:11] <binary2k2> blah, i have no clue
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> binary2k2: w32codecs in non-free
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> on top of it
[09:11] <binary2k2> all are 32bit now, and all the apps on kubuntu 64bit are 64bit (goes without sayin realy)
[09:12] <mae> i've been reading about ruby 2.0 and continuations -- aside from all the gossip -- isn't a continuation essentially when you pass a Proc or lambda to a function ? if we couldn't do that wouldn't ruby lose like 50 percent of its coolness
[09:12] <binary2k2> Admiral_Chicago: i know, but i was typeing when you sent that, and i mostly look down when i type :p
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[09:25] <AtomBombe2000> ping
[09:29] <igor> how i install a package with all the propgraming libs in ubuntu?
[09:31] <binary2k2> igor: a development package?
[09:31] <igor> i wanna install the librarys of C programing...using gcc compiler
[09:32] <binary2k2> !compile | igor
[09:32] <ubotu> igor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:42] <Jucato> !kernel
[09:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:53] <Schalken> Isn't glxgears supposed to output framerate information?
[09:54] <binary2k2> you need to add the '-printfps' option
[09:54] <Schalken> binary2k2: ahhh, cheers! :D
[09:57] <thewolf> Hey, is there anyone here from South Australia? Looking for someone to binge a DVD copy of 6.10 from :P
[10:05] <bele_> !apache
[10:05] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:08] <bele_> Hello I'm having a problem with kubuntu's apache ... or actually with the fact that my previous platform used ISO Latin 1 enconding
[10:08] <bele_> Now all my pages are iSO Latin 1 on filesystem
[10:08] <JohnFlux> fun fun
[10:08] <bele_> And apache of cource servers special charcters wrong...
[10:08] <aspedia> I want to install php5.2. What is the best way to do it?
[10:09] <aspedia> Backports? How?
[10:09] <bele_> Where I could configure in Kubuntu encoding Apache is using when reading files from FS?
[10:09] <rowanjl> !backports
[10:10] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:11] <Schalken> rowanjl: I'm from VIC, if you wanna come down. ;)
[10:12] <rowanjl> Man, its cold enough here! :P That is when its not 38C...
[10:13] <Schalken> Yeah it was pretty sunny today.
[10:13] <rowanjl> But looking on the bright side, you don't have Adelaide drivers over there :P
[10:13] <JackD> does it get that hot in Victoria?
[10:16] <Schalken> JackD: well the weather is really turbulent in Melb'.
[10:16] <JackD> Anything above 25C is very hot to me
[10:17] <JackD> 38C is almost frightening
[10:17] <rowanjl> 45C is hot
[10:18] <JackD> I couldn't survive that without being climatised first
[10:18] <rowanjl> Where are you from?
[10:19] <JackD> a terrible place, but in a matter of weeks, all going to plan, I am making my escape to Australia
[10:19] <isede> is there any way to use USB TV tuner on ubuntu?
[10:20] <JackD> legally of course
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> #offtopic
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> :P
[10:21] <rowanjl> Well, you're not tasmanian then :P
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[10:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> i meant
[10:21] <JackD> yes of course sorry
[10:23] <Hmg4> I can't get my autopackage to work, anyone?
[10:24] <pansy> hi folks
[10:24] <Schalken> Hmg4: What does it say?
[10:25] <Hmg4> Schalken, Nothing, i click on amsn autopackage and i does nothing.
[10:25] <Hmg4> Schalken, It used to work
[10:25] <pansy> i have a little problem on my laptop: since the upgrade to edgy the speedstepping isnt working correctly, this means though the powersaved daemon is running the cpu runs always with max speed. how can i make my laptop to use the speedstepping?
[10:26] <Schalken> Hmg4: you might need to execute it from the terminal. i can't remember what the command was...but maybe ubotu does...
[10:26] <Schalken> !autopackage
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autopackage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Schalken> bagh
[10:28] <Hmg4> Schalken, autopackage install!!!!
[10:28] <Hmg4> Schalken, Thank you!!!!
[10:29] <Schalken> Hmg4: ?
[10:29] <Hmg4> Schalken, You where right, i used console: autopackage install stupid.package
[10:30] <Schalken> Hmg4: oh okay. you could set that as the default file opener for auopackage files so you can just double-click on them.
[10:30] <Hmg4> Schalken, Ok, thank you.
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Hmg4: man page maybe in the future?
[10:34] <eilker> i have dhcp problem...it cant start in the booting
[10:34] <Hmg4> Admiral_Chicago, What man page? man amsn?
[10:35] <Hmg4> Admiral_Chicago, man autopackage? there is no
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe, i don't know the package but in general. you seem to know gnu/linux disregard me
[10:39] <eilker> i need to configure my dhcpd.conf, but i dont know why, could anyone share his file with me ??           sudo kate /etc/htcpd.conf
[10:39] <eilker> i need to configure my dhcpd.conf, but i dont know why, could anyone share his file with me ??           sudo kate /etc/dhcpd.conf  **
[10:47] <aspedia> how can I search and install backports software? An entry in sources.list I have done
[10:51] <binary2k2> aspedia: run "sudo apt-get update" then the packages will be in Adept (or whatever package manager you use)
[10:58] <eilker> i need to configure my dhcpd.conf, but i dont know why, could anyone share his file with me ??           sudo kate /etc/dhcpd.conf  **
[10:58] <benjaminkip> can any body help me installing windows codes32
[10:58] <eilker> or any help_
[11:01] <benjaminkip> please help me to instaill windows code32
[11:02] <benjaminkip> anyone there to help me to download
[11:02] <benjaminkip> or install windows code 32
[11:02] <benjaminkip> on Kubuntu
[11:02] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:02] <benjaminkip> yeah.. i have looked
[11:02] <benjaminkip> but they have only for debain
[11:03] <binary2k2> ubuntu is debian based
[11:03] <benjaminkip> but I can only do it from Adept
[11:03] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: what part exactly are you stuck on?
[11:04] <benjaminkip> I just downloaded the tar pack from the debain sever
[11:04] <benjaminkip> and I am stuck
[11:04] <benjaminkip> to install
[11:05] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: what tar pack?
[11:06] <benjaminkip> sorry.. the debain pack
[11:06] <benjaminkip> not yet install
[11:06] <benjaminkip> on my desktop
[11:08] <Jucato> right-click on it, select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[11:08] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: try right-clicking on it, go to "Kubuntu Package Menu" and choose "Install Package"
[11:08] <Jucato> :)
[11:09] <benjaminkip> okey
[11:09] <benjaminkip> let me try
[11:09] <benjaminkip> you are too kind to help me out at anytimes
[11:10] <benjaminkip> asking me password
[11:10] <benjaminkip> i tried many times
[11:10] <benjaminkip> now status database area i locke by another process
[11:10] <benjaminkip> press enter to exit....
[11:10] <Jucato> benjaminkip: did you enter your password?
[11:10] <benjaminkip> yes i did
[11:11] <Jucato> ok launch K Menu -> System -> Konsole
[11:11] <benjaminkip> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[11:11] <benjaminkip> didn come out anything
[11:11] <benjaminkip> may be my adept was opening
[11:11] <Jucato> benjaminkip: in Konsole, type this command: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:11] <Jucato> yes, close Adept
[11:12] <benjaminkip> what is that
[11:12] <benjaminkip> sudo dpkg --configure -a??
[11:13] <Jucato> it's to unlock the database --> <benjaminkip> now status database area i locke by another process
[11:13] <benjaminkip> yeah
[11:13] <benjaminkip> that right
[11:13] <benjaminkip> okey
[11:13] <benjaminkip> i just did it
[11:13] <benjaminkip> yeah..
[11:13] <benjaminkip> how do i know when it is already installed
[11:14] <Jucato> try playing a WMV or WMA file
[11:14] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: dpkg --list | grep w32codecs
[11:17] <benjaminkip> yeah.. I got it.. thanks
[11:17] <benjaminkip> can i delet the package that I download on my desktop
[11:17] <binary2k2> yeah
[11:17] <benjaminkip> thanks alot
[11:17] <binary2k2> :D
[11:17] <benjaminkip> now the my wmv files is playing
[11:17] <benjaminkip> thanks
[11:17] <benjaminkip> where are you guys from
[11:18] <benjaminkip> how come you all know everything
[11:18] <binary2k2> i wish :p
[11:18] <binary2k2> we're from all over the world
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> we were spawned in the beard of ZEus
[11:18] <benjaminkip> thanks anyway.. got to go now
[11:19] <benjaminkip> happy sabbath to you all
[11:19] <binary2k2> see you later
[11:22] <vge> how i know what apache version im running?
[11:23] <binary2k2> vge: dpkg --list | grep apache
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> vge: from command line.. apache --version might work
[11:23] <binary2k2> vge: or look in adept
[11:24] <vge> bazillion ways, maby i should try before asking sometimes, ty ;)
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> vge: [04:20]  <benjaminkip> how come you all know everything
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[11:25] <binary2k2> no one knows everything
[11:25] <vge> ya, best channel to ask a question
[11:25] <binary2k2> at least i don't know if they do :p
[11:25] <eilker>  Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the  , network segment to which interface eth0 is attached. could anyone help pls ??
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wow i don't know that one...lol
[11:27] <binary2k2> eilker: tried "man dhcpd.conf" ?
[11:27] <eilker> binary2k2: no, having trouble here
[11:28] <binary2k2> eilker: why do you deed a dhcp server?
[11:28] <eilker> binary2k2: i dont know, my ip is not static
[11:29] <binary2k2> then a local dhcp server wont help
[11:29] <eilker> binary2k2: i have personal web server, and ftp server, and trying with vmware
[11:29] <binary2k2> eilker: use the 192.168.*.* address range
[11:29] <eilker> binary2k2: do u suggest me to uninstall it ?
[11:30] <nagyv> power manager is buggy! is I plug out kde restarts twice
[11:30] <eilker> binary2k2: what happens if i uninstall it ? because i am not with it
[11:30] <nagyv> if I plug in, kde restarts twice again
[11:30] <binary2k2> eilker: i don't see why you'd need it if you are only using vmware, setup static addressed
[11:31] <nagyv> no, even worse, kde restarts cyclicaly!
[11:31] <eilker> binary2k2: uninstalling it
[11:31] <eilker> binary2k2: lets see...
[11:31] <nagyv> it just restarted again
[11:32] <eilker> binary2k2: and other bad thing is, vmware stole my 5 gb, i uninstalled it , but my 5 gb gone...
[11:33] <binary2k2> eilker: that's the virtual machines, if you wan't to get that 5GB back you need to remove them
[11:34] <eilker> binary2k2: i uninstalled vmware, before it i deleted var/vm/ubuntu  too, and trash is empty
[11:35] <binary2k2> eilker: check in ~/vmware
[11:37] <eilker> binary2k2: " rmdir ~/vmware  "  is it ok ?
[11:37] <nagyv> were here any answers for me? I just rebotted to get rid of kde restarts (I hope it will work)
[11:37] <binary2k2> eilker: not if it has any files in it, use "rm -r ~/vmware"
[11:39] <eilker> binary2k2: there is no file in it,
[11:39] <binary2k2> eilker: you can use the package "kdirstat" to see what files/directorys are using the most space
[11:45] <eilker> binary2k2: installed, and waiting for report
[11:51] <nagyv> !powermanager
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> nagyv: what release?
[11:52] <nagyv> edgy, 0.42
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !guidance
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> what?
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> well guidance is the new power manager, i'd google it
[11:55] <nagyv> I hided (hide?) the toolbar in system settings, how can I get it back?
[11:58] <nagyv> isn't is possible that the two power managers conflict? I have the basic icon from dapper, and the new one also. I don't know wheather they use the same programs though
[12:10] <eilker> binary2k2: problem is solved, thank you
[12:10] <Narada> hi; my kde is intermittently getting very high cpu usage
[12:10] <binary2k2> eilker: no problem :D
[12:11] <eilker> binary2k2: it was here, /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:11] <eilker> binary2k2: so interesting
[12:11] <Narada> the processes that are taking cpu are: /sbin/init splash, /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-Ph7eUT and kwin [kdeinit]  -session 1019a1ac10a14d000116238033600000045420000_1164970373_63166; any ideas about what i can do
[12:12] <eilker> binary2k2: i delete the things from my trash, and files go to /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:12] <Narada> they just shoot up in usage and then disappear
[12:12] <binary2k2> eilker: hmm, strange
[12:12] <Narada> /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher run --syslog as well is taking cpu
[12:13] <eilker> binary2k2: yeah so strange:)
[12:16] <nagyv> !packages
[12:16] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:16] <elcuco> hi, i have this wide screnn laptop and i need help setting it up for wide screen display (system is kubuntu 6.10)
[12:17] <nagyv> does anyone have a list of installed packages after a new edgy install?
[12:17] <binary2k2> !xorg | elcuco
[12:17] <ubotu> elcuco: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <elcuco> the package name is 910 of 855?
[12:21] <elcuco> the manual you pointed me says "855" but i found 910
[12:22] <elcuco> 915 that is, sorry :)
[12:22] <binary2k2> elcuco: 915resolution
[12:23] <elcuco> do i need to reboot? or just restart the service and xorg?
[12:24] <binary2k2> you don't need to reboot
[12:24] <elcuco> kk, comming back in a few :)
[12:24] <binary2k2> ok
[12:27] <elcuco> 10x, working :)
[12:27] <binary2k2> great :D
[12:27] <elcuco> now i need to understand why the laptop does not boot unless i choose the rescue option
[12:27] <binary2k2> it wont boot at all?
[12:28] <bxnp> how can i see wich keymap i use in kubuntu
[12:28] <elcuco> gets stucked, not sure when. i will try to boot using vga=text
[12:28] <bxnp> and how can i configure kubuntu to use a different keymap
[12:29] <binary2k2> bxnp: K Menu -> System Settings -> Regional & Language
[12:31] <bxnp> binary2k2:
[12:31] <bxnp> but i dont have x running on that box
[12:31] <bxnp> is there a way to do this via the commandline
[12:31] <binary2k2> bxnp: run "sudo kbd-config"
[12:33] <bxnp> binary2k2: where are the keymaps stored
[12:33] <binary2k2> bxnp: /usr/share/keymaps/
[12:33] <bxnp> i need to set this to us international, cause i dont know what's on this now, but i cant type normaly on that box
[12:34] <bxnp> and how can i see wich keymap kubuntu is now using,
[12:34] <bxnp> sorry for my english
[12:35] <elcuco> by default, the keyboard applet from kde is not loaded
[12:35] <elcuco> it uses the configuration used in xorg.cong
[12:36] <elcuco> bxnp: got it?
[12:36] <binary2k2> that's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:36] <bxnp> xorg.conf you mean elcuco
[12:36] <bxnp> oke
[12:38] <elcuco> (details)
[12:39] <bxnp> ehm think i am going to reinstall kubuntu on that box, i wanted to make an server, but for me kde is handy
[12:39] <binary2k2> bxnp: you can have a server with kde installed
[12:39] <binary2k2> bxnp: servers can have X too
[12:40] <elcuco> binary2k2: no they cant :)
[12:40] <cpk1> err why wouldnt a server be able to have X installed on it?
[12:42] <binary2k2> quote from bxnp: "i wanted to make an server, but for me kde is handy"
[12:42] <binary2k2> have both then, linux is good like that :D
[12:42] <napa_> !mp3
[12:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:43] <cpk1> not to mention running a desktop enviroment on something doesnt meant it all of a sudden cant be a server
[12:43] <napa_> ugh .. mp3 doesnt work in kubuntu
[12:43] <binary2k2> my box has KDE, is a FTP/web server and a NAT router
[12:44] <cpk1> !work
[12:44] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:44] <binary2k2> napa, read the links, they tell you why
[12:44] <elcuco> napa_: restricted formats in the wiki
[12:46] <napa_> I cant find libxine-extracodecs in adept
[12:46] <bxnp> oke
[12:46] <bxnp> i think i am going to reinstall
[12:46] <napa_> using Kubuntu 6.06
[12:46] <cpk1> its there
[12:47] <cpk1> it have it
[12:47] <binary2k2> napa_: did you read the guide?
[12:47] <binary2k2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <napa_> yeah binary2k2
[12:47] <cpk1> !info libxine-extracodecs dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:49] <jbasilio> anyone know how to adjust pmount options when kde mounts removable media?  i want to change the umask setting but i can't find where kde calls pmount
[12:49] <napa_> I thought it should be enough installing ibxine-extracodecs and  libk3b2-mp3.
[12:49] <napa_> But the ibxine-extracodecs does not exsist
[12:50] <binary2k2> napa_: yes, it exists, i have it installed
[12:50] <binary2k2> napa_: enable the multiverse repository
[12:50] <napa_> how?
[12:51] <cpk1> napa_: did you just see what ubotu said? it exists on dapper
[12:52] <napa_> it does not exist on 6.06 .... It's not on my list
[12:52] <binary2k2> napa_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories will tell you how
[12:52] <gemidjy> any idea on how to browse/manage files on Nokia 6630 under Kubuntu? For motorola there is this good application moto4lin that does the job...any experience?
[12:53] <cpk1> just because you dont know of it doesnt mean it doesnt exist =)
[12:53] <SlimG> where can i find extensions for konqueror? looking for a css "live" editing extension
[12:53] <napa_> I need documentation for Kubuntu not Ubuntu
[12:53] <ninHer> gemidjy: have a glance to this
[12:53] <ninHer> http://www.koeniglich.de/p3nfs.html
[12:54] <cpk1> napa_: it is basically the same
[12:54] <binary2k2> napa_: on that page you see "Managing Repositories in Kubuntu", click it
[12:59] <Lothar> i hace done a server install of kubuntu and wish to install the desktop enviroment what is the apt-get install package name
[12:59] <airfoil> hello
[01:00] <cpk1> Lothar: well i think if you want kde its kde-base, or kde-desktop, or kde-core
[01:00] <cpk1> i think those are all options
[01:03] <airfoil> Hi! I have problem connecting my adept manager to the kubuntu server.
[01:04] <cpk1> how so?
[01:10] <vge> can someone help me to use ldap with apache?
[01:10] <dorian__> salut
[01:10] <dorian__> Y aurait-il un franais ici ?
[01:14] <jbasilio> in kcontrol->peripherals->storage media .. how do you find out what the default associations do?  i'd like to modify 1 but i can't find a script on disk ("open in a new window")
[01:33] <Lothar> ok so i installed the kde-core packages .... now i want to start it alll up
[01:39] <eilker> https://<IP_ADDRESS>:8333  it doesnt accept my username and password  //vmware server
[01:41] <soulrider> hi everyone
[01:41] <Jucato> Lothar: good luck. you might find this useful: http://jucato.org/stuff/kde-core.html
[01:42] <tohel> anybody around who could help me with setting the locale to de_DE@euro ISO...??
[01:42] <soulrider> :O jucato.org
[01:43] <Jucato> soulrider: :P
[01:44] <soulrider> Jucato: whats that kde-core thing supposed to be? minimal KDE ?
[01:44] <Jucato> yep
[01:44] <Jucato> no Kubuntu defaults
[01:45] <soulrider> ohh
[01:45] <soulrider> uhm, interesting...
[01:45] <soulrider> and it work faster, yeah?
[01:46] <Jucato> for me it does
[01:46] <Jucato> it's smaller, lighter, faster. and for me, I have the added satisfaction of knowing what I install
[01:46] <soulrider> Jucato: i like how your desktop looks
[01:46] <Jucato> hehe thanks :)
[01:47] <eilker> is there any difference between "sudo su" and "su"
[01:48] <apokryphos> eilker: yes, we don't recommend the usage of su. It's disabled by default
[01:48] <apokryphos> eilker: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:49] <apokryphos> prefix commands with sudo for doing one command, or use sudo -i to get into a root jail session
[01:49] <Jucato> "su" needs a root account to be enabled. sudo su sort of emulates it, but using sudo. (afaik)
[01:50] <soulrider> ~info inframs-tools
[01:50] <soulrider> !info inframs-tools
[01:50] <ubotu> Package inframs-tools does not exist in any distro I know
[01:50] <apokryphos> ubotu: packages
[01:50] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:51] <soulrider> yeah im there already :P
[01:51] <soulrider> damn, i dont know wth i read! it says: initramfs-tools
[01:51] <soulrider> it must be that i just woke up :P
[01:51] <eilker> apokryphos: ty,
[01:52] <eilker> jucato: i asked it for vmware https://<IP_ADDRESS>:8333 it doesnt accept my username and password
[01:52] <Jucato> eilker: who's username and password? <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost, meaning your own machine (afaik)
[01:53] <eilker> jucato: yess
[01:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy All! :)
[01:53] <apokryphos> hey
[01:53] <binary2k2> howdy stranger
[01:54] <XVampireX> Hey, anyone has any idea on Edgy why sometimes when I boot up, some programs "Crash" ? I mean immediately when I boot.
[01:54] <BluesKaj> can anyone recommend an audio converter utlilty ?
[01:54] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I use mencoder
[01:54] <binary2k2> audio and video
[01:55] <BluesKaj> hey Jucato,, apokryphos, binary2k2,
[01:55] <tony__> anyone here use ntfs-3g?
[01:55] <Jucato> he BluesKaj
[01:55] <apokryphos> BluesKaj: how've you been?
[01:55] <tony__> i can' only write to my ntfs partition as root while the other i can as user, anyone wanna help?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> quite well , thanks, apokryphos, and you ?
[01:56] <binary2k2> tony__: how do you mount the ntfs partition?
[01:56] <Lothar> Jucato: could i see your sources.list
[01:56] <apokryphos> yup, doing well =)
[01:56] <apokryphos> tony__: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:56] <Jucato> Lothar: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jucato
[01:56] <BluesKaj> good ')
[01:56] <tony__> sudo mount -a on both of them and both have the same fstab entry
[01:57] <BluesKaj> mencoder ?, but I thought it was just an engine , like xine for ex
[01:57] <BluesKaj> example
[01:57] <binary2k2> tony__: change "auto" to "noauto" in fstab and add "user"
[01:58] <Lothar> Jucato: thanks
[01:58] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: mplayer is the engine, mencoder can trenscode too
[01:58] <icheyne> BluesKaj, http://www.kraus.tk/projects/konverter/
[01:58] <icheyne> konverter works nicely
[01:59] <luciani> hola todos
[02:00] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: Encode DVD title #2, only selected chapters:
[02:00] <binary2k2> mencoder dvd://2 -chapter 10-15 -o title2.avi -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4
[02:00] <BluesKaj> konverter eh ?
[02:00] <binary2k2> from man page
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ok
[02:01] <binary2k2> mencoder is a bit complicated, but very powerful
[02:01] <tony__> didn't work, i'm going to have to change the fstab back, it only mounted my other linux partition
[02:01] <BluesKaj> yeah , I see mencoder in devede but I'm talking about audio converters , say from wav to mp3 etc
[02:01] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: it will do that too
[02:02] <BluesKaj> uhoh , mplayer crashes
[02:03] <binary2k2> tony__: did you unmount it first?
[02:03] <tony__> yep sudo umount -a
[02:03] <binary2k2> why do it lile that, unmounts all partitions
[02:04] <tony__> because it's faster
[02:05] <binary2k2> tony__: faster then sudo umount /mount/point ?
[02:06] <tony__> yeah, to type
[02:06] <binary2k2> tony__: how did you remount it after? "sudo mount -a" ?
[02:06] <Lothar> goJucati\
[02:06] <tony__> yeah
[02:07] <binary2k2> that's why it didn't work then
[02:07] <tony__> let me try to mount/umount just that part.
[02:07] <Lothar> disregard my little brothers spam
[02:07] <tony__> nope, still no write permission
[02:08] <Lothar> Jucato: Thanks for that page on kde-core stuff blody awesome
[02:08] <binary2k2> can you post your fstab?
[02:08] <Jucato> Lothar: no problem
[02:08] <Jucato> :)
[02:08] <tony__> sure,
[02:08] <tony__> # /dev/hdb1
[02:08] <tony__> UUID=2E9874F49874BBC1 /media/windows2     ntfs-3g    silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[02:08] <vado> Re
[02:08] <tony__> that's the fstab line for that drive
[02:09] <tony__> it's owner is root and so is it the same for my other ntfs windows partition but that one i still can't write to
[02:10] <binary2k2> tony__: try "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows2 -t ntfs-3g -o umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8,uid=(your username)"
[02:10] <hel> hi everybody
[02:10] <hel> anybody around who could help me with setting the locale to de_DE@euro ISO...??
[02:11] <binary2k2> hel: have you tried: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" ?
[02:12] <hel> yes i did, but seems not to change anything :(
[02:12] <hel> at least is the output of "locale" still the same
[02:14] <binary2k2> hel: maybe try: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[02:14] <tony__> binary2k2: keeps giving me device is busy so far
[02:15] <binary2k2> tony__: did you unmount it first?
[02:19] <hel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure localecon << is not changing anythin as well :(
[02:21] <binary2k2> hel: there is a help page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:22] <tony__> binary2k2: yes, it's mounting fine, no problem at all, i just can't write to it as non-root
[02:22] <tony__> while my other's exactly the same model of drive, same fstab entry, and no luck with it
[02:22] <hel> @binary2k2 thank u
[02:23] <binary2k2> hel: your welcome
[02:23] <binary2k2> tony__: i don't have any ntfs partitions, so i'm a bit lost there
[02:24] <tony__> thanks for the help anyway, i'm gonna keep trying
[02:24] <vladslky> i have a problem : i`ve installed nvidia-glx, but when i try to run Xserver with 3D driver, it gives an error( the version of the nvidia module of nvidia is different that the version of the Xserver module)
[02:24] <vladslky> can someone help me ?
[02:25] <hel> vladslky - installing nvidia driver with automatix2 worked perfectly fine for me!
[02:28] <sirmis> hi
[02:29] <sirmis> where can i find tutorial how to change shell resolution and to add simple picture to background ?
[02:32] <sirmis> brb
[02:32] <tony__> binary2k2: i got it, don't know how though, i still haven't changed anything
[02:33] <binary2k2> tony__: strange, but glad you got it working
[02:34] <tony__> yeah, maybe something to do with the refresh, and still it has a hard drive icon instead of a folder icon like my others
[02:34] <tony__> i notice it takes my icon schemes a while to update too and some more than others
[02:36] <tony__> binary2k2: come to think of it, i did change the uid on it and that may have done it. but strange the other one was fine
[02:36] <binary2k2> tony__: well the ntfs-3g driver is a beta
[02:37] <tony__> i've read lots about it and wouldn't use it if i heard it wasn't stable.
[02:38] <tony__> it's the one thing keeping me from booting into windows, glad it works
[02:38] <binary2k2> it's quite stable, but it can do damage
[02:39] <sirmis> ok .. i managed to change resolution .. i wonder is it possible to change it widescreen ? or can i add simpple image to background like in mandrake
[02:40] <Bulwinkle> I have a package that I installed manually (mysql-server-5.0) and the Adept notifier keeps telling me about the kubuntu package...  is there a way I can disable this notification?
[02:41] <tony__> Bulwinkle: i think so, not sure how
[02:41] <tony__> Bulwinkle: if you're running a webserver, have you tried LAMP with mysql, apache, php, etc?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> automatix is down
[02:42] <Bulwinkle> tony__: not running a webserver... using Mysql for amarok
[02:42] <binary2k2> Bulwinkle: try "sudo aptitude hold [package] "
[02:43] <tony__> oh
[02:46] <Bulwinkle> binary2k2: thanks!
[02:46] <binary2k2> :D
[02:46] <Bulwinkle> binary2k2: didn't work though :)
[02:46] <binary2k2> :(
[02:47] <Bulwinkle> still shows up in apt-get upgrade
[02:47] <BluesKaj> still trying to get mplayer to launch ...must be a missing lib, but adept doesn't show it ...any ideas
[02:48] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:48] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj you look familiar
[02:48] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: how are you running it, from konsole?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> hey Bulwinkle, yeah prolly over the sude help ...which I gave up on
[02:49] <BluesKaj>  binary2k2, from the kicker
[02:49] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: thats why I'm here...
[02:49] <BluesKaj> suse help
[02:50] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: what made you switch?
[02:50] <BluesKaj> yast was too much for me
[02:50] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: mplayer runs from a term
[02:50] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: werd...  same here
[02:50] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: I actually came to opensuse from kubuntu
[02:51] <tony__> i tried opensuse and stopped not long after trying to get my multimedia all to work
[02:51] <BluesKaj> binary2k2 , then why is therea mplayer icon in the kicker under "multimedia" ?
[02:52] <tony__> vlc was a bitch for dependencies, or perhaps i didn't have a clue since some said it wasn't too hard
[02:52] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: that's gmplayer, a gui to the mplayer command
[02:54] <Bulwinkle> any ideas why my DVD drive in my laptop would just spin up and down every so often?  It even opens on its own sometimes
[02:54] <BluesKaj> sorry but i  migrated from windows and I like to use gui s.... it's easier for my learning curve :)
[02:56] <binary2k2> !soundkonverter | BluesKaj
[02:56] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[02:56] <binary2k2> just found that
[02:56] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: when I can't run something from the kicker I look at its menu item properties and then try to run it from a konsole
[02:57] <benjaminkip> hi binary2k2
[02:57] <benjaminkip> still helping other huhh
[02:57] <binary2k2> hay benjaminkip, yeah, i'm just that kinda guy :p
[02:57] <benjaminkip> good guy.. keep it up..
[02:58] <benjaminkip> by the way.. why downloding are too slow with kubuntu..
[02:58] <benjaminkip> can we sppe
[02:58] <benjaminkip> speed it up
[02:58] <Bulwinkle> benjaminkip: get a bigger pipe
[02:59] <BluesKaj> Bulwinkle, binary2k2, ...fixed mplayer .. sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins :)
[02:59] <benjaminkip> bigger pipe??
[02:59] <benjaminkip> i am using broadband
[02:59] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: i'm a cli guy, didn't think of that
[02:59] <tony__> you need bigger tubes for teh internets
[02:59] <benjaminkip> with windows quite fast
[02:59] <Bulwinkle> benjaminkip: I'm at work and we have sick bandwidth here
[03:00] <benjaminkip> what do you mean
[03:00] <Bulwinkle> at work I have a 1gig connection to the internet backed up by a DS3 (45Meg)
[03:00] <binary2k2> my downloads are actually faster with kubuntu than windows
[03:01] <BluesKaj> binary2k2 , I tried to install gmplayer and the term output said there were no skins ...
[03:01] <benjaminkip> but why mine
[03:01] <Bulwinkle> BluesKaj: excellent
[03:01] <benjaminkip> is slow
[03:01] <binary2k2> is it a slow download speed, or slow to connect?
[03:02] <benjaminkip> slow download speed
[03:02] <benjaminkip> very slow infact.
[03:02] <Jucato> how are you downloading it? did you choose a mirror close to you?
[03:02] <benjaminkip> yeah...
[03:03] <Jucato> maybe the mirror's bandwidth isn't that fast/big?
[03:03] <benjaminkip> or is there any thing I can do from my comp
[03:04] <Bulwinkle> benjaminkip: nope...
[03:04] <Jucato> afaik, no
[03:05] <benjaminkip> so sad
[03:06] <benjaminkip> or is there any program like downloading
[03:06] <benjaminkip> fast dwonloading
[03:06] <wonderboy> hi all
[03:06] <Jucato> no download accelerator that I know of
[03:06] <mortici> how do i change my boosplash?
[03:07] <Bulwinkle> mortici: kicker -> system settings -> splash screen
[03:07] <Jucato> Bulwinkle: that's not the bootslpash
[03:07] <wonderboy> I want to make the partitions and I don't know the code to see if is good
[03:07] <mortici> Bulwinkle, not that one
[03:07] <mortici> im talking about actual boot
[03:07] <wonderboy> is somebody who know that
[03:07] <Jucato> mortici: it's a bit more complicated than your regular bootsplash...
[03:07] <ZmAY> i have 2 HDD, on first there is ext2, on second there is NTFS (former win disc), how can i format this second ntfs disc?
[03:08] <wonderboy> sudo..............................
[03:08] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: there is http://prozilla.genesys.ro/?p=prozilla but it text/command line and not maintained anymore
[03:08] <Bulwinkle> Jucato: if you have a doc you could share I'd like to see it too :)
[03:08] <Jucato> !usplash | mortici
[03:08] <ubotu> mortici: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:08] <mortici> Jucato, i was on gentoo for 2 years prior to switching to this, so its not that bad
[03:08] <wonderboy> pls
[03:09] <wonderboy> I want to make partitions
[03:09] <Jucato> Bulwinkle: doc for ?
[03:09] <benjaminkip> thank you everyone and good night...
[03:09] <binary2k2> see you benjaminkip
[03:09] <wonderboy> jucato....u know?
[03:09] <binary2k2> ZmAY: you want to reformat the windows partition?
[03:10] <Jucato> wonderboy: sorry. I'm no partitioning guru...
[03:10] <wonderboy> thanks
[03:10] <BluesKaj> wonderboy , DL GParted live cd ...it'll set up partitions for you
[03:10] <ZmAY> i want to delete all files and put ext2 FS on it
[03:10] <binary2k2> wonderboy: what is it exaclt you want to do?
[03:10] <tony__> wonderboy: i like gpart for partitions
[03:10] <wonderboy> but I want to see the partitions with Windows to
[03:10] <binary2k2> !qtparted | ZmAY
[03:10] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:11] <BluesKaj> you'll see the partitions in windows but windows won't let you access the linux files
[03:11] <Bulwinkle> Jucato: how to change the boot screen....  I want to see all of the boot messages until KDE comes up...
[03:11] <tony__> wonderboy: ntfs-ext3 here. windows has a driver to read/write ext3 and vice versa
[03:11] <wonderboy> k
[03:11] <wonderboy> let see
[03:11] <binary2k2> wonderboy: you could make a fat32 partition that windows can read and write to, as well as linux
[03:12] <Jucato> Bulwinkle: unfortunately, I don't think that's possible in Edgy... even if it were, it might be a bit difficult to do
[03:12] <binary2k2> wonderboy: or install a special driver for windows
[03:12] <binary2k2> wonderboy: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:12] <gnomefreak> boot screen as in usplash or after you log in?
[03:13] <binary2k2> Bulwinkle: are you on edgy or dapper?
[03:13] <wonderboy> somebody told me that I need a code to see if is good
[03:13] <_albert> |gus| kuando puedas pasamelos
[03:13] <Bulwinkle> binary2k2: EDGY
[03:13] <Bulwinkle> (sorry for caps)
[03:13] <tony__> Bulwinkle: you could set the console to be autologged into, i think
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Bulwinkle: you mean the usplash screen?
[03:14] <Jucato> yep
[03:14] <BluesKaj> tony__,  windows has a driver to read/write ext3... are you sure?
[03:14] <Jucato> usplash == Ubuntu bootsplash
[03:14] <Jucato> (which I sort of hate...)
[03:14] <tony__> yes, i use it
[03:14] <Bulwinkle> gnomefreak: I think... all it shows now is the bar bouncing back and forth...  I'd like to be able to hit ESC or something and see the boot messages (like in opensuse)...
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> I once had a page which showed what to install to get icon previews working in konqueror for videos, for the life of me I can't find that information - anyone know?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> ok tony__, what is it?
[03:15] <binary2k2> Bulwinkle: edgy uses upstart, so there aren't any boot messages, you could try removing "quiet" from the grub boot line tho, but you get a lot of messages
[03:15] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:15] <gnomefreak> if you take the word quiet out of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst will give you the normal test scrolling. if you want to see full text you can take the word splash out of it
[03:15] <tony__> BluesKaj: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:15] <binary2k2> beet you to it :p
[03:15] <gnomefreak> binary2k2: upstart isnt the reason why
[03:15] <Jucato> binary2k2: it's not because of upstart
[03:15] <tony__> yep, barely
[03:15] <Jucato> binary2k2: upstart is separate from usplash
[03:15] <gnomefreak> we decided to pull the text in edgy before edgy specs
[03:16] <binary2k2> gnomefreak, Jucato, if you disable usplash, you still wont see boot messages, i've tried it
[03:16] <Jucato> binary2k2: yes, but it has nothing to do with upstart
[03:16] <gnomefreak> binary2k2: yes you will it will drop you into tty 2 i believe all you have to do is switch to tty1
[03:16] <Jucato> gnomefreak: maybe in feisty they could develop a way to have something like "press F2 for details" option in USplash?
[03:16] <binary2k2> gnomefreak: no, just wont start usplash
[03:17] <binary2k2> if you remove "splash" from the grub boot line, usplash wont start
[03:17] <gnomefreak> binary2k2: did you take splash and quiet out of the boot options?
[03:17] <Jucato> gnomefreak: pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6 doesn't do anything now in Edgy Usplash
[03:17] <gnomefreak> you still have to remove quiet or it will suppress the messages
[03:17] <binary2k2> removing "quiet" will show some messages, but also will be more verbose about HW too
[03:17] <Jucato> remove "quiet splash"
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Jucato: what do you mean it doesnt
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you mean while the usplash is running?
[03:18] <Jucato> gnomefreak: doesn't throw you to tty1-6 while usplash is running
[03:18] <Jucato> yes
[03:18] <Jucato> unlike in Dapper and previous releases
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Jucato: did it ever? i thought it was alt+F* while in usplash
[03:18] <tony__> will booting grub with the console option not show all messages?
[03:19] <Jucato> gnomefreak: Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Alt+F1
[03:19] <Jucato> same thing
[03:19] <gnomefreak> tony__: no i dont htink it will you have to remove quiet from boot op[tions
[03:19] <gnomefreak> Jucato: neither do it?
[03:19] <Jucato> gnomefreak: neither
[03:19] <Jucato> last I checked
[03:19] <binary2k2> yes, only was to see boot messages is to remove "quiet splash" from grub line
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu: if you remind me monday i will find out what is up with it
[03:19] <ubotu> I'll remember that, gnomefreak
[03:19] <gnomefreak> shit
[03:20] <Jucato> lol
[03:20] <Jucato> if
[03:20] <Jucato> !if
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about if - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <Jucato> gnomefreak: how do you undo that now :P
[03:20] <gnomefreak> !forget if you remind me monday i will find out what is up with it
[03:21] <Jucato> gnomefreak: don't worry, I'll remind you on monday :)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:21] <Jucato> about USplash right?
[03:21] <Jucato> lol
[03:21] <tolkan> When using ubuntu, i can hit Fn + F4 to suspend my computer, however after i've installed kubuntu, i can no longer do that, does anyone have an suggestions on how to fix?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Jucato: yes. if i see him today i will ask him about it but its hetic atm
[03:24] <tony__> tolkan: have you tried going into system settings and changind the shortcut keys or findout out the keys?
[03:24] <Jucato> gnomefreak: no worries. I think it's a feature rather than a bug. hehehe
[03:24] <ZmAY> binary2k2: i used qtparted.. i delete parition (whole disc), and i set ext3, but when recheck then the status it's still the same as before, it jumps back to ntfs...
[03:25] <binary2k2> ZmAY: did you apply the changes after?
[03:26] <tolkan> tony__: the keys dont register in xev, and there is no entry for suspend in keybaord shortcuts
[03:27] <Kubunto> Is there a way to test a Cd to see if it is bootable other than booting the CD?
[03:27] <ZmAY> how, there is no button applay or ok...
[03:29] <icheyne> Kubunto, why don't you want to boot?
[03:29] <Kubunto> icheyne: Well I can't get it to boot in two machines but the person who gave me told me that the CD is bootable and has booted
[03:30] <Jucato> can you boot from any other bootable CD
[03:30] <Kubunto> Seems so
[03:30] <Jucato> hmmm
[03:31] <ZmAY> binary2k2: i didnt see the button commit, thanks:)
[03:31] <tony__> tolkan: you can make a shortcut for a command
[03:31] <binary2k2> ZmAY: File -> commit
[03:31] <Kubunto> and I'm either going to have to download this again which will take ages or drive all the way across city :L
[03:31] <ZmAY> i saw now, thanks
[03:31] <tony__> tolkan: not sure the command for suspend but just set the command to a key
[03:31] <tolkan> tony__: how?
[03:33] <tony__> tolkan: i'm looking but i'm sure i saw it in the keyboard and mouse settings
[03:34] <tony__> tolkan: just make a new item in the panel menu if you want that runs the command to suspend and assign a key to it
[03:34] <icheyne> Kubunto, if you can boot from other CDs, but not that one, then it looks like that CD is broken.
[03:35] <xst> When I correct the Gamma in System settings -> monitor -> gamma and press Apply, the values are being reset when I reboot. Why doesn't it save the settings?
[03:35] <xst> (using edgy)
[03:35] <MHK> has someone i idea how i can set fstab, so i can unmount my usb-stick with the gui?
[03:35] <tony__> tolkan: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:2o8hG4Ypt_IJ:www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php%3Fcontent%3D47593+suspend+command+kubuntu&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
[03:36] <[GuS] > Hi guys, which plugin do i need in Kbabel to export .po files into .ts ones?
[03:39] <mortici> bah usplash seems to not follow traditional bootsplash methodology
[03:39] <mortici> for creating and using themes
[03:39] <Jucato> mortici: told you :)
[03:39] <tolkan> tony__: is Kubuntu staff notified of this issue?
[03:39] <binary2k2> !usplash
[03:39] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[03:40] <mortici> Jucato, that makes me sad :(
[03:40] <Jucato> I know how you feel... I feel the same way
[03:40] <mortici> binary2k2, im there right now
[03:40] <tony__> tolkan: not sure, i may just be missing it also, i've only been using kubuntu for a couple weeks
[03:41] <mortici> the point is the theme i want to use, uses a cfg file in conjunction with images
[03:41] <mortici> not just images
[03:41] <mortici> like usplash wants to use
[03:42] <binary2k2> i always disable usplash anyway, no point in another pointles process at boot
[03:42] <mortici> :/
[03:42] <tony__> ubotu: are you worried about boot errors? if so, is there a way to see the boot logs?
[03:42] <binary2k2> i know it dosen't help you mortici, sorry
[03:43] <binary2k2> tony__: /var/log/boot
[03:45] <tony__> anyone overclock their nvidia cards here?
[03:45] <Dr_willis> why bother. :)
[03:45] <tony__> doom3
[03:46] <tony__> why bother with fast enough?
[03:46] <Kubunto> With Doom3 :)
[03:46] <Bulwinkle> What did I start?
[03:48] <tony__> anyone here play wolf. ET?
[03:49] <Bulwinkle> How about changing the font that my consoles run in (ctrl-alt-F1) can I change the screenmode from 80x25 to 132xwhatever?
[03:54] <drarem> i play wolf et but am too busy atm with the holiday season
[03:55] <drarem> and with the anticipation of quake wars et  :)
[03:57] <mortici> is there anyway to change the k menu icon from the default ubuntu icon?
[03:58] <Jucato> Ubuntu?
[03:58] <Jucato> mortici: Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[03:59] <Kubunto> !info kbx > Kubunto
[03:59] <ubotu> Package kbx does not exist in any distro I know
[03:59] <Kubunto> !info kbfx > Kubunto
[03:59] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[03:59] <Kubunto> Dumb bot
[04:00] <hastesaver> Kubunto, you expect it to correct spelling mistakes? :)
[04:00] <Kubunto> I expect it to obey orders
[04:01] <michaelpo> hi, why is it i can use wireless assistant in kubuntu.. where is equivalent in ubuntu?
[04:01] <hastesaver> Kubunto, you asked it for kbx and the poor thing doesn't know about it... what more do you want? :-) (Or maybe you wanted !info kbfx | Kubunto instead of the >)
[04:02] <Kubunto> hastesaver: no Pretty sure I wanted the >
[04:02] <binary2k2> the > is supposed to send a pm
[04:02] <hastesaver> !info emacs > hastesaver
[04:02] <ubotu> emacs: The GNU Emacs editor. In component main, is optional. Version 21-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:02] <hastesaver> !info emacs | hastesaver
[04:02] <Kubunto> !help > hate
[04:02] <Jucato> GIGO...
[04:02] <Kubunto> !help > hastesaver
[04:02] <Kubunto> There we go
[04:02] <hastesaver> clearly, its syntax changed or something.
[04:03] <mortici> Jucato, i installed a icon theme
[04:03] <hastesaver> oh, I know. It doesn't like people to ask it to tell about themsleves
[04:03] <mortici> and its set to the ubuntu k icon
[04:03] <hastesaver> !tell hastesaver about emacs
[04:03] <binary2k2> Kubunto: why don't you just pm the bot, then it will pm back
[04:03] <Kubunto> binary2k2: I'm a lazy bugger :)
[04:03] <hastesaver> It says "To send answers to yourself, please use /msg instead of spamming the channel"
[04:03] <binary2k2> :p
[04:03] <binary2k2> see
[04:03] <hastesaver> Kubunto, that's why it didn't answer... it wants to set an example by insisting on /msg :-)
[04:03] <Jucato> the | displays the info in the channel, addressing you with your nick. > sends it in a PM
[04:03] <hastesaver> Jucato, yes, but you can't forward messages to yourself.
[04:04] <Kubunto> Anyway I'll be back in a few hours
[04:04] <Jucato> hastesaver: you can. but you need  a delay after your last !
[04:04] <hastesaver> Jucato, oh, that makes more sense. It does give you the message, but also a warning.
[04:05] <hastesaver> Jucato, er, suggestion, or hint, or advice, or whatever
[04:05] <michaelpo> hi, what is kubuntu wireless assistant where is equivalent in ubuntu?
[04:05] <Jucato> :)
[04:05] <Jucato> michaelpo: might wanna check with the people in #ubuntu
[04:05] <hastesaver> Anyway, I came here to ask a question: What do I need to install for k3b to work with emovix?
[04:06] <estel> hi, what is the automounter kubuntu uses?
[04:06] <hastesaver> It doesn't look like whatever I need is in the repos...
[04:07] <Jucato> estel: you mean something like pmount?
[04:07] <estel> does kubuntu use pmount?
[04:08] <Jucato> yes
[04:08] <Jucato> HAL-pmount combo, afaik
[04:09] <estel> ok, thanks
[04:11] <mortici> how do i uninstall if i used dpkg
[04:11] <binary2k2> mortici: dpkg -r
[04:11] <Jucato> mortici: if you still have the .deb package, you can also just right-click on it -> Kubuntu Package Menu
[04:12] <mortici> Jucato, thanks :)
[04:13] <mortici> hmmm
[04:13] <mortici> now to figure out how to convert bootsplash themes to splashy themes
[04:13] <MHK> has anyone experience with wine?
[04:14] <binary2k2> some
[04:15] <MHK> well, i want to install Terragen. it's an msi-file and wine does not want to install it
[04:16] <binary2k2> msi's and wine don't mix well, you may want to use the latest version of wine for that
[04:16] <Jucato> MHK: use "msiexec /i <.msi file>"
[04:16] <Bulwinkle> How about changing the font that my consoles run in (ctrl-alt-F1) can I change the screenmode from 80x25 to 132xwhatever?
[04:20] <michaelpo> hi, just installed kubuntu...
[04:20] <ubunturos> I am chatting while installing kubuntu behind :-)
[04:20] <ubunturos> it is scanning the mirror
[04:20] <ubunturos> taking quite a lot of time
[04:20] <ubunturos> any reasons why so?
[04:20] <ubunturos> michaelpo: how much time did it take to install it?
[04:21] <MHK> jucato: i own windows 2k an xp pro, is there a possibility to get windows program running with wine and having a better support?
[04:21] <Jucato> MHK: not all Windows programs will run in Wine
[04:21] <michaelpo> hi, just installed kubuntu. i am trying to play 'pink panther". why i can hear the audio, but cannot see the video?
[04:21] <MHK> ubunturos: well, on my laptop (1.7) i had 2h
[04:21] <michaelpo> ubunturos: 25mins
[04:21] <ubunturos> MHK: oh,
[04:21] <ubunturos> michaelpo: that's quick!
[04:21] <MHK> michaelpo: codecs?
[04:21] <michaelpo> it is a pink.avi file.
[04:22] <MHK> jucato: is there a possibility to get everything runing?
[04:22] <michaelpo> i'm using kaffeine to play it
[04:22] <ubunturos> the installer window is scanning for mirrors. Any idea when this step will complete?
[04:22] <ubunturos> I mean, soon or will take several minutes?
[04:23] <Bulwinkle> BRB
[04:23] <MHK> michaelpo: install automatix and then get the win32codecs
[04:23] <elcuco> is anyone experiencing crashes with konversation on edgy...?
[04:23] <michaelpo> ubunturos: i guess it will take a few minutes... i tot my laptop when it scanning the mirror
[04:23] <elcuco> when i start it and move to another window before it connects it crashes.
[04:23] <elcuco> when it's connnected it works
[04:23] <michaelpo> how do i install automatix?
[04:23] <ubunturos> michaelpo: oh, ok
[04:24] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:24] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:24] <MHK> michaelpo: please add first my name before your message; i can better see who writes with me...
[04:24] <michaelpo> mhk; how do i install automatix?
[04:24] <MHK> ubotu: i works excellent, i'd rather say... imho... =)
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i works excellent, i'd rather say... imho... =) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <michaelpo> ubotu: what is better alternative for automatix?
[04:25] <Jucato> ubotu is a bot
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <LjL> Ubotu, tell michaelpo about bot | michaelpo, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:26] <Jucato> LjL: you like to use the long method, don't you? :)
[04:26] <michaelpo> jucato: how do i install automatix to install codec?/
[04:26] <MHK> michaelpo: go to "www.getautomatix.com
[04:26] <Jucato> !automatix | michaelpo
[04:26] <ubotu> michaelpo: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:26] <Jucato> or #automatix
[04:26] <MHK> ubotu shut up
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shut up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <Jucato> MHK: you're talking to a bot
[04:27] <LjL> !botabuse | MHK
[04:27] <ubotu> MHK: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[04:27] <MHK> ignore now that bot. it annoys me!
[04:27] <Jucato> MHK: also, the devs don't agree with you. it may work *now*, but makes it extremely difficult to upgrade later
[04:28] <hastesaver> MHK, the bot was manually activated. And it only reflects our common sentiment :-)
[04:28] <MHK> jucato: upgrade? from edgy to fawn?
[04:28] <michaelpo> jucato, how do i play movie pinkpanther.avi?
[04:28] <Jucato> MHK: it cause a lot of problems in Dapper -> Edgy
[04:28] <MHK> michaelpo: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation
[04:28] <hastesaver> michaelpo, do other movies play?
[04:29] <hastesaver> !restricted | michaelpo
[04:29] <ubotu> michaelpo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <MHK> jucato: maybe, but at least it works! =D
[04:29] <Jucato> by adding unofficial repositories, for one
[04:29] <Jucato> MHK so does installing libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[04:29] <hastesaver> !WorksForMe | MHK
[04:29] <ubotu> MHK: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:29] <hastesaver> aw, sorry
[04:29] <Jucato> hastesaver: thanks for that last factoid :)
[04:29] <Jucato> also, like I said, it might work *now*, but not tomorrow
[04:30] <michaelpo> hastesaver; what is "!restricted | michaelpo"?
[04:30] <MHK> the day after tomorrow...
[04:30] <hastesaver> michaelpo, it tells the bot to give the output of the "restricted" factoid, and tell it to you. You saw it above, right?
[04:30] <Jucato> anyway, when Feisty comes, some of the main features of automatix and easyubuntu will be covered by Ubuntu's own method of installing codecs
[04:30] <hastesaver> michaelpo, either you don't have all the codecs installed (like maybe other movies/videos don't play either). That's the easy case to solve, just go to that link ubotu gave you
[04:31] <MHK> jucato i thinking of moving to gentoo...
[04:31] <hastesaver> michaelpo, otherwise, maybe something is wrong with the file you're trying to play
[04:31] <michaelpo> hastesaver:
[04:31] <michaelpo> [23:25]  <ubotu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail
[04:31] <michaelpo> [23:25]  <ubotu> LjL wants you to know: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:31] <MHK> michaelpo send the movie to me.
[04:31] <Jucato> MHK: don't take it wrongly. You can suggest automatix or easyubuntu to whomever you want. the bot only says the sentiment of the developers about them
[04:31] <michaelpo> mhk, its 300mb
[04:32] <michaelpo> mhk, its 700mb
[04:32] <Jucato> michaelpo: you basically need to install libxine-extracodecs
[04:32] <MHK> michaelpo oh! =O
[04:32] <hastesaver> michaelpo, not that. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:32] <matroblend> Is there a way to lock icons where I place them in Konqueror?
[04:32] <Jucato> michaelpo: you first need to enable "multiverse"
[04:32] <LjL> michaelpo, you addressed something to Ubotu and it took it like you were trying to add a factoid
[04:32] <michaelpo> hastesaveer; ubuntu? i'm using kubuntu not ubuntu
[04:33] <MHK> michaelpo doesn't matter
[04:33] <hastesaver> MHK, basically, automatix is fun and nice when it works (which is most of the time, maybe). But it sometimes screws up, and when it does, it's hard to trace (or fix) what the problem is. That's why we don't recommend Automatix.
[04:33] <MHK> michaelpo they are very the same
[04:33] <hastesaver> michaelpo, doesn't matter; it's the same thing
[04:33] <Jucato> michaelpo: you are free to use automatix if it makes it easier for you. but take note that we just don't officially support it in Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[04:34] <MHK> hastesaver well, then it's up to the devel-team to make an alternative!
[04:34] <Jucato> MHK: they are making that now