[07:46] <Chousuke> if you have 0 cache and 0 free, then you have apps eating all your RAM.
[07:46] <uniq> timi: yes. with 'free -m' what is used by applications is approx. (used)-(cached). with 'free -m' you get everything in megabytes..
[07:46] <garar> hi
[07:46] <garar> where can I setup my tv output?
[07:46] <Kr4t05> Heh, I like how my CDs were post-marked in France. :P
[07:46] <timi> i c
[07:47] <timi> so out of 1002 i have 423 free+cached and thats good?
[07:47] <yuyu> hi
[07:47] <Chousuke> timi: sounds okay
[07:48] <Chousuke> timi: remember that firefox uses a lot of memory for page render cache
[07:48] <thygrrr> Hi! I have the following partitions on a harddrive: 30MB (sic) Primary FAT ('system volume'), Extended[Logical hda5 30GB NTFS, Logical hda6 16GB /, Logical hda7 16 GB /home, Logical hda8 8 GB swap]  ... I want to delete hda6, extend the extended partition to span the entire disk, and create a new 30.03 GB partition in the free space before /hda6.
[07:48] <timi> ok
[07:48] <Chousuke> timi: it's a feature, but people often mistake it for a memory leak, because it causes firefox to use huge amounts of memory. :P
[07:48] <thygrrr> What do I need to do to my /fstab and grub config? :) Will it even work to boot from an extrneded partition?
[07:48] <Chousuke> Firefox really only uses that feature if you have enough memory to afford it.
[07:49] <timi> ok so if i cleare the cache then it will be cool
[07:49] <thygrrr>  ... /etc/fstab, even. I'm trying to understand volumes/devices in linux.
[07:49] <dr_willis> rember that grub starts counting the drives at 0, :P if ya remove a drive the others get 'reordered' when grub scans them
[07:50] <thygrrr> dr_willis, thanks!
[07:50] <danielknobe> blobby.sourceforge.net if u like blobby volley ;)
[07:56] <gabriel1> Daniel: im using a other browser that i can play the movies on like movies on youtube but thers no sound
[07:57] <locoblade> hey
[07:58] <locoblade> in kubuntu's add remove programs how do I search for programs?
[07:58] <danielknobe> how can i install java, cant find the packages with apt
[07:58] <locoblade> eg for xine nothing comes up
[07:58] <locoblade> and when i search for fire fox it comes up but is greyed out
[07:59] <locoblade> hope people dont mind newbs here
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> This is the place where noobs learn, locoblade
[08:01] <thygrrr> I have a small primary "boot" partition (30 mb) at the beginning of my hard drive. I'd like to remove it and (multi)boot from my logical partitions in an extended partition that spans the entire volume. What steps to I have to do? I heard drive numbers may change for grub, etc.
[08:01] <gabriel1> Daniel: sounddriver?
[08:02] <locoblade> so say I want to install fire fox
[08:02] <locoblade> how do i go about it?
[08:02] <scabootssca> how do i remove the ati driver and revert back to the default
[08:02] <danielknobe> reconfigure your xorg
[08:03] <danielknobe> dkpg-reconfigure xorg
[08:03] <scabootssca> the thing is still in the menu though
[08:03] <mattttttt> hmm
[08:03] <gabriel1> what can i do about my sounddriver?
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> locoblade: Open a console and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[08:04] <locoblade> ok
[08:04] <scabootssca> mabye i can go to the package manager and remove all the fglx things?
[08:04] <locoblade> and what about other programs?
[08:04] <locoblade> say I find one I want to install
[08:04] <stanks> hello
[08:04] <gabriel1> how do i install opera?
[08:04] <locoblade> like a new mo3 player
[08:05] <danielknobe> apt-get install opera
[08:05] <danielknobe> no no
[08:05] <locoblade> firefox has no installation candidate BTW
[08:05] <danielknobe> opera is not per apt available
[08:06] <locoblade> by the way im on a ppc
[08:06] <gabriel1> what fore browsers do you use?
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> you can always look in adept, locoblade. Add some more repos there, or you can download packages and install them yourself...
[08:07] <timi> whts the command to open network settings
[08:07] <danielknobe> firefox
[08:07] <locoblade> thats the thing
[08:07] <locoblade> adept only seems to list programs I already have
[08:07] <jackle> I'm currently using suse10, can anyone recommend kubuntu ?
[08:07] <forkz> YES!
[08:07] <Kr4t05> !tell locoblade about universe
[08:07] <jackle> reason?
[08:08] <locoblade> universe?
[08:09] <forkz> jackle: Actually, it's the only dist i ever tried :P
[08:09] <Kr4t05> locoblade: you need to enable the "uni/multiverse" repositories in order to install certain programs.
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !universe
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:09] <jackle> can one setup a vpn gateway easily with it?
[08:09] <locoblade> yeah i got those links ubotu
[08:09] <locoblade> im reading them now
[08:09] <locoblade> thanks
[08:10] <locoblade> how do i enable those repositories? and why do i need to?
[08:10] <Chousuke> Opera does have an apt repo though.
[08:10] <jackle> last question: does kubuntu have some sort of control centre such as yast which I can use to config the system?
[08:11] <Kr4t05> jackle: Kmenu -> System Settings
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> System Settings in the Kmenu, jackle
[08:11] <jackle> isnt that the kde control centre?
[08:11] <forkz> Yes.... and Kubuntu uses KDE
[08:11] <Kr4t05> jackle: nope.
[08:11] <jackle> ha
[08:11] <forkz> ah damn... wrong by me
[08:12] <jackle> ok
[08:12] <jackle> deal
[08:12] <Kr4t05> kcontrol is the KDE control centre
[08:12] <jackle> burining disk
[08:13] <bbt> could someone help me with some wireless issues? trying to get ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant to work and getting nowhere as the usb card is being pout in iwconfig as eth3 instead of wlan0
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Take everyone. Over and out!
[08:17] <gabriel1> whats the name on the other web browser not firefox, E somthing!
[08:18] <Pupeno> Epiphany ?
[08:18] <forkz> Internet Explorer? :P
[08:18] <gabriel1> can you have internet explorer on linux?
[08:18] <Pupeno> or konquEror ?
[08:18] <secleinteer> gabriel1: yes
[08:18] <secleinteer> you have to wine it
[08:18] <whizz--> i want to build a kernel module, the readme says: "First you have to configure your kernel appropriately. etc.. etc" how do i do this?
[08:19] <Pupeno> gabriel1: please, don't.
[08:19] <the_hammer> anyone here good at eggdrop bots?
[08:19] <secleinteer> he prolly needs it for web development
[08:19] <gabriel1> how do you install IE then?
[08:19] <secleinteer> check ubuntuforums.org
[08:19] <secleinteer> the HOWTO section
[08:20] <locoblade> ok ive figured out that i need to edit sources.list to enable universe, but I haven't write access
[08:20] <gabriel1> ok
[08:20] <locoblade> dont I have to enter into super mode or something?
[08:20] <secleinteer> locoblade: go to terminal
[08:20] <locoblade> ok
[08:20] <secleinteer> sudo kate /etc/X11/sources.list
[08:20] <secleinteer> then you can edit
[08:20] <locoblade> sudo means what?
[08:20] <secleinteer> superuser do
[08:20] <locoblade> just out of interst
[08:20] <mattttttt> anyone know how i can set up my second monitor?
[08:20] <locoblade> ok
[08:20] <locoblade> cheers
[08:21] <mattttttt> so i can have dual monitor goodness again
[08:22] <jackle> mattttttt: twinview
[08:24] <jacko> is it possible within X to specify 1 program not to use my window manager
[08:25] <trappist> jacko: no, but it may be possible with your window manager to say not to decorate a particular app
[08:25] <jacko> no that is not what i need
[08:27] <florian> hallo!
[08:27] <locoblade> ok it looks like I have universe "unlocked" but adept still brings up the same results
[08:28] <trappist> locoblade: did you say 'sudo apt-get update'?
[08:28] <florian> is this english channel?
[08:28] <locoblade> no
[08:28] <locoblade> lemme try that
[08:28] <usama> hi all
[08:29] <locoblade> oh cool
[08:29] <usama> can anyone tell me that from where I can tell konqueror to scan for plugins?
[08:29] <locoblade> looks like something's happening
[08:29] <trappist> locoblade: you have to do that whenever you modify your sources.list, for the changes to take effect
[08:29] <locoblade> when the packages are downloaded do i just rerun adept?
[08:30] <timi> how do i detect my sensors
[08:30] <trappist> locoblade: it's not downloading packages, it's downloading information about available packages.  and yes.
[08:30] <locoblade> cool
[08:30] <locoblade> thanks
[08:30] <trappist> timi: sudo sensors-detect
[08:31] <timi> it says sensors-detect command not found
[08:31] <edward_f> is there a tool to join the .000/.001/002./etc files found on usenet (like mastersplitter for Win)?
[08:32] <ganymed123> hei
[08:32] <ganymed123> hi
[08:32] <gabriel1> hey
[08:32] <ganymed123> i need help with bash scripting
[08:32] <usama> can anyone guide me about that plugins scanning question?
[08:32] <ganymed123> i have the following command
[08:32] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser
[08:32] <ganymed123> for i in *.JPG ; do convert $i -resize x768 -quality 85 `basename picture- .jpg`.jpg ; done
[08:33] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser
[08:33] <timi> what does it mean if sudo sensors-detect" returns sensors detect command not found
[08:33] <trappist> edward_f: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:33] <ganymed123> so it should convert *.JPG to picture-NUMBER.jpg, but i cannot figure out how to increase the number part (i cannot introduce a second variable)
[08:33] <ganymed123> any ideas
[08:34] <ganymed123> ?
[08:34] <gabriel1> can sombady help me whit plugins in konqbrowser!
[08:34] <timi> gabriel wht plugin
[08:34] <trappist> ganymed123: x=$(($x+1))
[08:34] <gabriel1> Flash player 7 to linux
[08:35] <usama> gabriel1: I have an idea, that install plugins for firefox and tell konqueror to scan the .mozilla folder
[08:35] <Lynoure> timi: that the command wasn't found... Did you isntall it yourself?
[08:35] <locoblade> ok that seems to have worked to a degree
[08:35] <timi> i jut installed the lm sensors
[08:35] <timi> with the apt get
[08:35] <locoblade> i had a good few extra programs in adept
[08:36] <usama> gabriel1: but I forgot that where we used to tell konqueror to rescan for plugins
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Settings - COnfigure konqueror - Plugins - scan for plugins
[08:36] <locoblade> but if I want stuff like eclipse, gaim, firefox, what do I need to do?
[08:36] <timi> locoplade apt get them
[08:36] <timi> sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:36] <locoblade> can you explain that?
[08:36] <timi> in konsole
[08:37] <locoblade> I think i tried that
[08:37] <edward_f> trappist: that remark must have been misdirected or have been a joke... lm-sensors has nothing to do with file joining
[08:37] <usama> thoreauputic: no, plugins is not given there, I mean in konqueror configuration
[08:37] <locoblade> ill try again though
[08:37] <thoreauputic> usama: it is here
[08:37] <trappist> edward_f: probably misdirected, sorry
[08:37] <thoreauputic> usama: in konq
[08:37] <trappist> edward_f: I use pan as my nntp client, and it assembles multipart binaries automatically
[08:38] <usama> thoreauputic: konqueror configuration is here open before my eyes and I can not see it, its not there
[08:38] <usama> thoreauputic: :(
[08:38] <timi> locoblade tell me if it worked
[08:38] <timi> u may need to update repositories to include universe
[08:38] <locoblade> looks like firefox might be
[08:38] <thoreauputic> usama: well, I just checked it here and it definitely is there
[08:38] <trappist> edward_f: other than that, I've never dealt with them, but I suspect you could cat them, as in cat prefix.* > newfile
[08:39] <locoblade> yeah i managed to get universe going
[08:39] <thoreauputic> Settings - Configure Konqueror - Plugins
[08:39] <edward_f> trappist: will try that then
[08:39] <timi> so is it installing firefox
[08:39] <timi> timi
[08:39] <locoblade> but immwondering about eclipse gaim, xine etc
[08:39] <PingunZ> When I change my /boot/config-2.6.17 file, how can I make that work  ?
[08:39] <locoblade> do i just do the same thing?
[08:39] <usama> thoreauputic: I installed konqueror in my ubuntu, is there anything missing?
[08:39] <trappist> timi: I meant to tell you that - sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[08:39] <thoreauputic> usama: I doubt it
[08:40] <thoreauputic> usama: you might need to scroll down in the config dialogue
[08:40] <timi> trappist: i did that and installled, then i did sensors detect, apparently my laptop has no sensors
[08:40] <trappist> timi: it probably has no *supported* sensors.
[08:40] <timi> ic
[08:40] <usama> thoreauputic: I checked the every tab of it, but can not find it :(
[08:40] <locoblade> when i install these programs, what do I have to do to get them to show u?
[08:40] <timi> download a pakckage?
[08:40] <timi> restart x
[08:40] <locoblade> up*
[08:40] <locoblade> ok
[08:40] <timi> cnrtl alt backspace
[08:40] <timi> then log back in
[08:40] <usama> thoreauputic: in my previous it was there
[08:41] <locoblade> yeah ill try that soon
[08:41] <locoblade> once this is finshed
[08:41] <scabootssca> how do i change the login screen?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> usama: *sigh* it is definitely there - Under the settings menu as i said
[08:41] <locoblade> firefox seems to have been successful
[08:41] <locoblade> if i want eclipse
[08:41] <thoreauputic> usama: is this dapper/ 6.06 ?
[08:41] <locoblade> do i just replace firefox with eclipse
[08:41] <locoblade> in the command line?
[08:41] <timi> trappist anypackages you know of for sensors
[08:41] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:41] <timi> locoblade
[08:41] <timi> maybe try it
[08:42] <locoblade> yeah
[08:42] <trappist> timi: sensors are supported by the kernel.  afaik there are no extra packages to install to support other sensors.
[08:42] <locoblade> really what i mean is how do i find out what to stick in there?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> usama: up to date with security/ updates?
[08:42] <timi> ok
[08:42] <trappist> locoblade: apt-cache search is a great way to find the package you need
[08:42] <locoblade> ok
[08:42] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:42] <locoblade> eclipse is working it seems btw
[08:43] <locoblade> this is great
[08:43] <timi> can i get superkaramba to start up when i log in
[08:43] <timi> or do i have to start it everytime
[08:43] <thoreauputic> !info ksensors
[08:43] <ubotu> ksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB
[08:43] <trappist> timi: put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:44] <timi> so i just find that file and type in superkaramba?
[08:44] <locoblade> can i have 2 terminals running at once?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> locoblade: of course
[08:44] <locoblade> k
[08:44] <xylus> can anyone tell me where i can acess my dvd drive using kubuntu
[08:44] <thoreauputic> locoblade: you can have 10 or even 50 if you like :)
[08:45] <xylus> like it should be under media
[08:45] <usama> thoreauputic: info ksensors, what's that
[08:45] <xylus> but its not
[08:45] <gabriel1> is ther a browser whit allready installed flash and other plugins?
[08:45] <timi> no
[08:45] <thoreauputic> usama: front end for lm-sensors
[08:45] <usama> thoreauputic: and what's Im-sensors
[08:45] <thoreauputic> usama: see ubotu's answer
[08:45] <gabriel1> Doh
[08:45] <xylus> can someone tell me where the folder is for my dvd drive??
[08:45] <xylus> its not under media or mnt
[08:46] <thoreauputic> usama: kernel stuff to monitor temperatures, voltages etc
[08:46] <locoblade> sudo apt-cache search tells me i must give exactly one search pattern
[08:46] <thoreauputic> locoblade: you don't need sudo for apt-cache search btw
[08:46] <locoblade> oh
[08:46] <usama> thoreauputic: hmm, ok thanks, is there any other way to configure plugins for my konqueror?
[08:47] <locoblade> but that shouldnt make any difference
[08:47] <thoreauputic> usama: did you install flash from the repositories? If so konq should find an use it
[08:47] <locoblade> yeah it doesnt
[08:47] <usama> thoreauputic: yes
[08:47] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq?
[08:48] <usama> thoreauputic: but konqueror asks to download it again
[08:48] <thoreauputic> usama: then it should work - I don't know why it doesn't
[08:48] <usama> thoreauputic: it thinks that the flash is not installed
[08:48] <thoreauputic> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[08:48] <ubotu> Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[08:48] <thoreauputic> hmm
[08:48] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq?
[08:49] <trappist> I think it's flashplugin-nonfree
[08:49] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:49] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:49] <locoblade> still cant get apt-cache search to work
[08:49] <thoreauputic> thanks :)
[08:49] <gabriel1> how do you install flash whit konq??!
[08:49] <timi> man kubuntu is awesome
[08:49] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin
[08:50] <timi> gabriel try that^
[08:50] <timi> !plugins
[08:50] <gabriel1> ok:P
[08:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about plugins - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:50] <thoreauputic> locoblade: try something like  apt-cache search browser
[08:50] <locoblade> will do
[08:50] <thoreauputic> locoblade: that should give you a lot of output :)
[08:50] <gabriel1> E: Unable to lock the administration direE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?ctory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:50] <trappist> locoblade: apt-cache search keyword
[08:50] <locoblade> weyhey
[08:50] <locoblade> how do i learn stuff like that?
[08:51] <scabootssca> how do i change the login screen to one where you click the name instead of typeing?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> gabriel1: close the other instance of apt you have open
[08:51] <thoreauputic> locoblade:  sudo apt-get install apt-howto
[08:51] <z00m> need some help here with how to edit boot options on kubuntu 6.06 i need to make sure that irqpoll is selected in the boot options, i have done a hardisk install so where do i edit the boot options
[08:51] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:51] <timi> gabiel sorry
[08:51] <gabriel1> timi: it says colud not find the flashplugin
[08:51] <timi> yeah its
[08:51] <timi> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:52] <gabriel1> no couldendt find :(
[08:52] <thoreauputic> gabriel1: then you need to add repositories
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !repos
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <timi> ok gabriel do this
[08:52] <timi> open adept
[08:52] <z00m> thoreauputic: do you know where to edit boot options
[08:52] <z00m> ??
[08:52] <gabriel1> ok
[08:52] <ganymed123> ciao
[08:53] <thoreauputic> z00m: such as ?
[08:53] <z00m> i want to add irqpoll to it
[08:53] <timi> ok now in the toolbar, click on adpet then mangae repositories
[08:54] <timi> gabriel tell me when your done
[08:54] <z00m> gatekeeper: hi do you know where to edit boot options in kubuntu ?>
[08:54] <thoreauputic> z00m: you can probably put it in /etc/rc.local
[08:54] <gabriel1> wait is the adpet packetmaneger on system -> admin -> packetmanger
[08:55] <locoblade> just while im waiting
[08:55] <timi> umm
[08:55] <timi> yes
[08:55] <gabriel1> ware do i open
[08:55] <locoblade> do i have to set up samba from the command line?
[08:55] <timi> thats it
[08:55] <gatekeeper> z00m, do you mean grub, or beyond that?
[08:55] <gabriel1> and in the toolbar adpet is packet?
[08:55] <timi> yes
[08:56] <timi> open adept
[08:56] <locoblade> yes me?
[08:56] <timi> gabriel
[08:56] <gabriel1> yes
[08:56] <timi> ok its open
[08:56] <z00m> well u know from the first main screen when you install kubuntu, there is an option which is  key F6 to edit boot options
[08:56] <timi> then in the adept tool bar, click adept then manage repositoreis
[08:56] <gabriel1> yes but you cant press anything
[08:56] <timi> ok on the bottom look for a button that says administrator mode
[08:57] <z00m> i had to put irqpoll in there, now i have done the install im getting the same error because i need to add that to stop the error
[08:57] <gabriel1> timi i have swedish language so it is not so easy
[08:57] <z00m> to the boot options on the harddisk now
[08:57] <timi> o
[08:58] <timi> it should have prompted you for a password when you opened it
[08:58] <timi> b/c you have to be root to open it
[08:58] <gatekeeper> z00m, I don't but would imagine it's a conf file associated with kdm
[08:58] <thoreauputic> z00m: is this a kernel option ? if so it goes in /boot/grub/menu.list on the relevent kernel line
[08:58] <gabriel1> ok im ther
[08:58] <z00m> thoreauputic: yes it is
[08:58] <timi> did you do the adept them manage repositories
[08:58] <thoreauputic> z00m: then as I said , you edit it in the menu.list
[08:59] <gatekeeper> z00m, thoreauputic my guess was a country mile out :-)
[08:59] <gabriel1> yes
[08:59] <timi> ALRIGHT
[09:00] <z00m> thoreauputic: i have the dir for menu at that location but not the menu.list file :?
[09:00] <timi> now your going to need to enable some repositories
[09:00] <gabriel1> ok
[09:00] <z00m> ../usr/share/menu
[09:00] <thoreauputic> z00m: you must have a /boot/grub/menu.list or the machine wouldn't have booted at all  :)
[09:00] <timi> enable the first 3 sets of http's
[09:00] <timi> just right click and enable
[09:01] <z00m> ah sorry , my heads gone
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ah soory menu.lst
[09:01] <gabriel1> yes
[09:02] <thoreauputic> z00m: sorry my mistake it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:02] <timi> alrigth your done
[09:02] <timi> with that
[09:02] <gabriel1> yes
[09:03] <kakabiza> hi
[09:03] <timi> ok now on the third pair of https
[09:03] <z00m> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet spl$
[09:03] <xylus> hey guys im using a applet called awesomekaramba for karamba and i would like to know why it dosent display my cpu temp and if i need to download a sensor or not
[09:03] <timi> under the components comment what does it say
[09:03] <z00m> thoreauputic: would i need to add it in there
[09:03] <gabriel1> ok
[09:03] <locoblade> can anyone tell me when i try to play mp3s in amarok each song in the playlist takes about a second and no sound?
[09:03] <thoreauputic> z00m: yes at the end of the line - but check the syntax, I'm not sure of that
[09:03] <locoblade> even though i get startup sounds etc#
[09:04] <thoreauputic> z00m: after splash I think
[09:04] <gatekeeper> locoblade, what engine are you using?
[09:04] <locoblade> how do i check
[09:04] <z00m> ok ill try that now
[09:04] <locoblade> kaffine i think
[09:04] <z00m> brb
[09:04] <xylus> can anyone help me figure out why my karamba app isent displaying cup temp?
[09:05] <scabootssca> is there a way to make a program if it's on a diffrent desktop not show up in the little bar?
[09:05] <thoreauputic> xylus: you probably need to install and configure lm-sensors
[09:05] <locoblade> no its a xine engine
[09:05] <xylus> thanks for responce tho could u plz pm me
[09:05] <xylus> where i would get those plz
[09:05] <thoreauputic> xylus: no, keep it in the channel please
[09:05] <timi> gabriel you still there
[09:05] <thoreauputic> !info lm-sensors
[09:05] <xylus> ok where do i get the sensonrs
[09:05] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ^^^^
[09:06] <xylus> !info im-sensors
[09:06] <ubotu> Package im-sensors does not exist in dapper
[09:06] <thoreauputic> xylus: its an "L"
[09:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:06] <timi> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <locoblade> gatekeeper: its a xine engine that amarok uses
[09:06] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In repository main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[09:06] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed
[09:06] <thoreauputic> see ubotu
[09:06] <xylus> lol
[09:06] <locoblade> oh
[09:06] <xylus> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <xylus> nothing happen :(
[09:06] <timi> gabriel u ther
[09:06] <locoblade> say that again please gatekeeper
[09:06] <timi> that becae i just type dit xylus
[09:06] <timi> see above
[09:06] <locoblade> im a bit thick ;)
[09:06] <thoreauputic> xylus: no need to keep asking - its right above
[09:07] <gabriel1> ye
[09:07] <timi> ok what did it say
[09:07] <timi> did it say universe
[09:07] <thoreauputic> xylus:  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:07] <jmarx> I need some help configuring the internal modem on an Acer TravelMate 420
[09:07] <xylus> ok thanks alot thoreauputic
[09:07] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:07] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you just libxene-extracodecs (might have got the name slight wrong) installed
[09:08] <thoreauputic> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:08] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:08] <locoblade> in terminal i type libxene-extracodecs?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> locoblade, ^^^^^
[09:08] <thoreauputic> locoblade: *read* the info above from ubotu!
[09:08] <locoblade> ok
[09:08] <gatekeeper> cheers thoreauputic
[09:08] <thoreauputic> does anyone in here actually read *anything* ?
[09:08] <locoblade> i cant make sense of that
[09:09] <locoblade> i have dapper kubuntu
[09:09] <thoreauputic> locoblade:  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <locoblade> ok
[09:09] <locoblade> ty
[09:09] <locoblade> lol
[09:09] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[09:09] <gabriel1> Yes
[09:09] <timi> ok gabriel
[09:09] <timi> click on universe
[09:09] <locoblade> ok well im still downloading eclipse
[09:10] <timi> and add mulitverse behind it
[09:10] <locoblade> ill let you know if that worksw
[09:10] <timi> it should look like this
[09:10] <timi> "universe mulitverse"
[09:10] <timi> do that for both
[09:10] <locoblade> dont suppose any of you guys know why the cd eject button on my ibook is acting as the right mouse button?
[09:10] <timi> then apply changes and fetch updates
[09:10] <Mez> locoblade, no idea - but it sounds fun !
[09:10] <locoblade> lol
[09:10] <locoblade> yeah
[09:10] <gabriel1> ok
[09:11] <locoblade> i have to restart the computer to change cds
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: hit fn first
[09:11] <Mez> plug a mighty mouse in and see if you can get it to eject the CD
[09:11] <locoblade> damn
[09:11] <locoblade> it worked
[09:11] <locoblade> lmao
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: the eject works with the Fn key
[09:11] <locoblade> i really feel stupid
[09:11] <thoreauputic> locoblade: F11 and F12 are mapped to middle and right click
[09:12] <locoblade> maybe someday I'll be able to help someone else feel stupid
[09:12] <locoblade> yeah i can see that
[09:12] <locoblade> how do you guys know all this?
[09:12] <timi> alright gabriel
[09:12] <thoreauputic> locoblade: it's like learning pool - if you waste enough time you eventually get to know how ;)
[09:12] <locoblade> haha
[09:13] <timi> now
[09:13] <locoblade> you should know im pretty good at pool
[09:13] <timi> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:13] <amarokker> question: about the logs that appear in kopete logs...are they always sent successfully?
[09:13] <amarokker> on slow connections/msn-server holdups, it gets delays
[09:13] <thoreauputic> locoblade: then you ar perfectly suited to linux ;)
[09:14] <thoreauputic> locoblade: a similar waste of your youth and rsources is required ;p
[09:14] <timi> gabriel is it working
[09:14] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[09:14] <timi> *ff
[09:14] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:14] <ubuntu> eh
[09:14] <GIGANTOR> your loss  ;)
[09:14] <mattttttt> weee
[09:14] <timi> how do tyou guys but the * in front of your name
[09:14] <timi> or change fonts and stuff
[09:15] <thoreauputic> timi /me says/does something
[09:15] <timi> ok
[09:15] <thoreauputic> timi: like /me is tired of clueless people who ask for help all the time ( joking)
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:15] <timi> gabriel are you still wiht me buddy
[09:15] <timi> lol
[09:15] <gabriel1> yes
[09:16] <timi> did it work
[09:16] <gabriel1> no it installed but its the same
[09:16] <locoblade> will i have to restart x server to see if that libxine extracodecs works?
[09:16] <mattttttt> i'm in the kubuntu install thing now. I want to be able to dual boot. should i choose manually edit partition table?
[09:16] <timi> it installed flash?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> locoblade: no
[09:16] <locoblade> ok
[09:16] <locoblade> well i think im still having problems then
[09:17] <thoreauputic> locoblade: just restart amarok or whatever you were using
[09:17] <timi> restart xserver then open something with flash and see if ti works
[09:17] <timi> cntrl alt backspace then log backin
[09:17] <timi> does anyone use aero all inone
[09:17] <thoreauputic> erm - libxine-extracodecs has nothing remotely to do with flash
[09:17] <timi> im working with gabriel
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ah sorry
[09:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:18] <timi> its ok lol
[09:18] <GIGANTOR> sooooo, who knows commands to help me build KDE from source
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> i'm shite on the command line
[09:19] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: what on earth for?
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> i was told to build the kicker from source first
[09:19] <thoreauputic> why?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: by whom?
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> well, with someone's help i have altered the source of KDE to allow me to change my taskbar font to white
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> by some guy that cut out on me
[09:19] <GIGANTOR> so, i've altered some file...  now i'm supposed to compile the kicker
[09:20] <noxs> hi ll
[09:20] <noxs> hi all
[09:20] <GIGANTOR> and then apparently compile KDE
[09:20] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: you realise that compiling KDE is a major task, right?
[09:20] <GIGANTOR> i'm ready  ;)
[09:20] <thoreauputic> as in, very complex
[09:20] <xylus> ok i have installed lm sensors but my app still isent displaying cpu tem fanspeed or core ny idea how i can edit the code for that??  i allredy changed everything else over to my current make thats all i have left to do anyone who can help me would be apreciated
[09:20] <Ignite_> does anyone know of an updated package for libxine that is fixed against the flac bug?
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> thoreauputic:  it's more than just a few typed commands then?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: its a full desktop environment
[09:21] <gabriel1> I LOVE YOU TIMI IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:21] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: oh yes
[09:21] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: everything you see you have to compile ;)
[09:21] <gatekeeper> GIGANTOR, on gentoo people say that it takes hours
[09:21] <locoblade2> ok sonething happened there
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> this other guy bugged out on me because i got errors while trying to compile due to incompatible compilers, etc
[09:21] <thoreauputic> xylus: run sudo sensors-detect
[09:21] <GIGANTOR> but, i have that sorted now
[09:22] <Ignite_> it does take hours to compile
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> i just don't remember the commands he was putting in to compile
[09:22] <xylus> ok ill try tho
[09:22] <Ignite_> ugh, no fix for libxine?
[09:22] <locoblade2> the libxine extracodecs install says it has no installation candidate
[09:22] <gabriel1> hey whers timi?
[09:22] <Ignite_> libxine-extracodecs
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> i've got about 4 hours to kill  ;P
[09:22] <gnomefreak> locoblade2: enable multiverse repo
[09:22] <GIGANTOR> if i could just get started on it
[09:22] <xylus> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:22] <locoblade2> it's not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:23] <thoreauputic> GIGANTOR: compling KDE to change some font colours is the most absurd idea I've heard for a long time ;)
[09:23] <locoblade2> ok
[09:23] <gnomefreak> GIGANTOR: try longer
[09:23] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[09:23] <locoblade2> thats probably my problem then
[09:23] <GIGANTOR> i live on the edge, what can i say
[09:23] <xylus> should i type that address in my address bar? No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[09:24] <gatekeeper> locoblade, you need to enable the correct repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:24] <gabriel1> hey whers timi?
[09:24] <GIGANTOR> well, alternatively, can anyone suggest a program that takes the taskbar's place, that does allow font color changes?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> xylus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[09:25] <noxs> how to run .jnlp files?
[09:25] <noxs> sun java re 1.5 is installed already
[09:25] <locoblade2> just out of interest whats a good samba browser?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> what on earth is a .jnlp file ?
[09:25] <Mez> locoblade2, konqueror will browse samba quite well
[09:25] <locoblade2> oh cool
[09:25] <gnomefreak> im gonna assume a photo/java
[09:26] <locoblade2> do i have to set up samba through the command line
[09:26] <gnomefreak> or video,java
[09:26] <Mez> thoreauputic, something to do with java server
[09:26] <Mez> locoblade2, to serve yes - to browse, no
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Mez: hmm - OK thanks :)
[09:26] <locoblade2> i mean as a samba client
[09:27] <locoblade2> well i want to browse a windows network
[09:27] <Mez> locoblade2, i believe mine worked straight out of the box
[09:28] <locoblade2> ok
[09:28] <locoblade2> but if i want to set up workgroups etc
[09:28] <Mez> locoblade2, alt+f2 -> remote: -> samba
[09:28] <locoblade2> where do i di that?
[09:28] <Mez> and it should then let you browse any workgroup on the network
[09:29] <locoblade2> alt f2 gets me a run command box
[09:30] <Mez> locoblade2, yeah - in there type (without the quotes) "remote:"
[09:30] <locoblade2> could not run the specific command
[09:30] <pete____> where is the reposities file located cant remember
[09:30] <pete____> !repos
[09:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:31] <thoreauputic> pete____:  /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[09:31] <pete____> thoreauputic: thanks
[09:31] <locoblade2> thats what i have theor
[09:31] <Lord_Athur> what's the name of the kde menu? does it have a special name?=
[09:31] <scabootssca> has anyone gotten yahoo music videos to work in kubuntu?
[09:31] <locoblade2> mez any idea why remote: doesnt work?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> locoblade: in konqueror try   remote:/
[09:32] <thoreauputic> note the slash
[09:32] <locoblade2> ok
[09:32] <locoblade2> ok remote with the slash works in the command box
[09:33] <thoreauputic> right
[09:33] <thoreauputic> or in konq ( same thing really)
[09:33] <locoblade2> yeah
[09:33] <locoblade2> i have 4 icons
[09:34] <locoblade2> bluetooth network services, samba shares and add a network folder
[09:34] <pete____> whats tha firewall front end is it called firestarterR?
[09:34] <pete____> firestarter
[09:34] <pete____> ?
[09:34] <Mez> Samba shares would be the one you're looking for locoblade2
[09:34] <thoreauputic> pete____: yes, or the KDE one is guarddog
[09:34] <locoblade2> i tought i tried that already
[09:34] <locoblade2> ill have another look
[09:35] <locoblade2> cool it works
[09:35] <locoblade2> now if i want to create a shortcut to that on the desktop how do i do that?
[09:36] <acojlo> anyone who have expertise in S3 (to ram)?
[09:36] <locoblade2> well i suppose i could type smb:/ into the alt f2 thing
[09:37] <Mez> locoblade2, just drag and drop :P
[09:37] <locoblade2> that makes me feel dumb for not trying that
[09:39] <Mez> lol locoblade2, no need to feel dumb :P we all have bad days
[09:40] <Ace2006> Anyone know a good font site with fonts i can use in kubuntu?
[09:41] <locoblade2> im thrilled though im making great progress here
[09:41] <acojlo> your windows dir :)
[09:42] <locoblade2> so is there a way i can change the icon of that link ive created?
[09:43] <Agios> properties
[09:43] <locoblade2> yep
[09:43] <locoblade2> i had a look but couldnt see
[09:43] <locoblade2> ohh
[09:43] <Agios> right click the icon, select properties
[09:43] <locoblade2> just click the icon
[09:44] <locoblade2> i got it
[09:44] <Agios> click the icon there, select any icon you want
[09:44] <locoblade2> like a mac
[09:45] <bigfoot1> the login screen is currently set to DVORAK layout. How can i make it QWERY keyboard layout?
[09:46] <locoblade2> oh i have another question
[09:46] <locoblade2> wireless networks
[09:46] <locoblade2> whats a broadcast address
[09:46] <locoblade2> first time ive ever been asked for one is kubuntu
[09:46] <Rivelino> Hi THC
[09:46] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, the same thing as a broadcast address in a wired network
[09:47] <locoblade2> it relates to the subnet mask IIRC
[09:47] <KaiHanari> urd
[09:47] <KaiHanari> *yes
[09:47] <KaiHanari> usually <IP_ADDRESS>   but it can vary
[09:48] <locoblade2> thats my subnet mask
[09:48] <gretch68> hi everyone
[09:48] <locoblade2> is the broadcast one the same?
[09:48] <locoblade2> suppose there's no harm in trying
[09:48] <KaiHanari> oh wait
[09:48] <KaiHanari> just a sec
[09:48] <rr72> bcast is usually whateber.255
[09:48] <TheHighChild> hey Rivelino
[09:48] <KaiHanari> yea
[09:48] <locoblade2> it's the complement of that
[09:48] <aliasfred> locoblade2: it is the address which allows you to address all the hosts on a network
[09:48] <uniq> locoblade2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_address
[09:49] <rr72> like 192.168.155
[09:49] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, what rr72 said, its your ip address except the last number is 255
[09:49] <rr72> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <locoblade2> yeah i had a look at that
[09:49] <uniq> kaihanari: that is not always the case.
[09:49] <KaiHanari> sorry, stuffing my face, not in the right mindset :P
[09:49] <aliasfred> locoblade2: what is the address/prefix of your network ?
[09:49] <locoblade2> ok so my ip address is 192.168.1.x
[09:49] <locoblade2> my broadcast address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <KaiHanari> uniq, but it is theirs, they said their subnet mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, yes
[09:50] <locoblade2> cool
[09:50] <uniq> kaihanari: yes. if given the example above, you're right.
[09:50] <rr72> locoblade2~ what are u trying to do?
[09:50] <locoblade2> set up this computer on wireless
[09:50] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know anything about yahoo and voice for linux and has tried it?
[09:50] <locoblade2> im probably driving you guys nuts but believe me this is a great help
[09:51] <locoblade2> im very greateful
[09:52] <rr72> locoblade2~ i just rezzed my computer from a signal 11 error
[09:52] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:52] <rr72> simple export cmd saved me
[09:52] <locoblade2> o.O
[09:53] <KaiHanari> locoblade2, if anything it refreshes peoples memories :P like mine... and i deal  with the fancier broadcast addresses everyday :/
[09:53] <rr72> i installed new driver for nvidia and gcc versions were conflicting
[09:53] <locoblade2> well if it helps then im glad lol
[09:53] <mattttttt> what type of file system should i make the partition for kubuntu?
[09:53] <locoblade2> i can keep going lol
[09:53] <exobuzz> mattttttt: ext3 ?
[09:54] <acojlo> do I need firewall software on kubuntu?
[09:54] <aliasfred> mattttttt: yep ext3 is a good choise
[09:54] <mattttttt> thanks
[09:54] <gatekeeper> acojlo, you have it by default iptables
[09:55] <locoblade2> ok im getting round to this xine extracodecs thing
[09:55] <locoblade2> i need to "unlock" multiuniverse is it?
[09:55] <acojlo> well, if I recompile kernel? Iptables are part of kernel?
[09:55] <locoblade2> all there is in sources.list is universe and backports
[09:55] <exobuzz> acojlo: yes.
[09:56] <locoblade2> as far as I can see
[09:56] <exobuzz> locoblade2: just add multiverse after universe
[09:56] <locoblade2> ok
[09:56] <acojlo> exobuzz, thanks. So, firewalls are only a option for servers
[09:56] <mattttttt> i need to make two partitions? one root and one swap?
[09:56] <locoblade2> same 2 lines with multiverse where universe was?
[09:56] <acojlo> and make those partions of primary type
[09:57] <exobuzz> acojlo: no.. you can easily setup a firewall with iptables.. a few simple rules to disallow incoming connectionds for example
[09:57] <exobuzz> acojlo: if have a script in /network/interfaces/if-preup.d/ which sets up a few iptables rules
[09:58] <exobuzz> locoblade2: same line.. after universe add " multiverse"
[09:58] <gabriel1> timi is he here?
[09:58] <uniq> acojlo: i recommend taking a look at a application named 'guarddog'. You can download it from the repositories with the Adept package manager.
[09:58] <locoblade2> ok
[09:58] <exobuzz> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:58] <exobuzz> for example
[09:58] <exobuzz> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[09:58] <locoblade2> and whats the command I need to type in again to update the packages or whatever it was
[09:58] <uniq> acojlo: guarddog is a grapical application to make iptables firewall rules.
[09:58] <exobuzz> is a better example.. apt-get update
[09:58] <exobuzz> or use aptitude/dselect
[09:58] <locoblade2> ok
[09:59] <exobuzz> i have a question of my own. but i bet i dont get an answer :)
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> I suppose for a firewall it wouldnt be that hard to install one of the firewall distributions under usermode linux and use taps to force all the traffic through it
[10:00] <acojlo> ok
[10:00] <exobuzz> As ubuntu uses evms, why does the installer not utilise evms to setup/manage volumes ? Also: I boot from a raid-1 array. I set it up from the installer, but changed grub to boot from /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0. that worked so I guess evms is in the initrd. however after switching to evms (and changing the fstab line to evms too), i get an error on booting (minor script syntax error - tells me some script is missing a semi-colo
[10:00] <exobuzz> d it seems to be in the initrd stage). any comments ?
[10:01] <exobuzz> is kubuntu supposed to have initrd support for evms. is it tested. does anyone else use it / boot from an evms volume ?
[10:02] <hoi> I login as User: hoi. but I recieve a window.popup everytime I login." kdesu -u test -- katapult -session 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1134662244_732871". It asks me for a password
[10:02] <thoreauputic> don't know anything about evms but ubuntu kernels use initramfs IIRC
[10:02] <Ace2006> Anyone know the effect of adding ~260 fonts to KDE?
[10:02] <uniq> exobuzz: why do you use /dev/evms/md/md0 instead of /dev/md0 ?
[10:02] <exobuzz> thoreauputic: yup. and they seem to have support for evms in them. although i get some small script bug when booting from evms volume
[10:02] <rr72> Ace2006~ u will have 206 more fonts to chose from?
[10:03] <exobuzz> uniq: so I can manage the volume better from evms and so evms takes care of things ?
[10:03] <acojlo> and what's that initrd story - I can boot without initrd (ramfs)
[10:03] <thoreauputic> exobuzz: I would try asking on the ubuntu-users list - there will be more people there who know about evms
[10:03] <exobuzz> thoreauputic: ok :)
[10:03] <Ace2006> rr72: How much of a slow down will there be?
[10:03] <uniq> exobuzz: does it matter for grub?
[10:03] <rr72> idk, i was making a funny
[10:03] <exobuzz> it just seems strange to me that ubuntu uses evms, yet the installer does not use it ?!?
[10:04] <exobuzz> uniq: it works either way. if you boot from evms, then evms takes control. for example i would get a message from evms about a disk missing if i removed one from array.
[10:04] <acojlo> what are the benefits of efi lilo?
[10:04] <Ace2006> Ok make that ~1000 there is about 755 my System folder and i added ~260 to the personal section
[10:05] <exobuzz> acojlo: booting from a machine which has efi rather than a bios :-)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Hello, everyone :)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Are the apt repositories hella slow for anyone else today?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: yes
[10:05] <uniq> exobuzz: is the change from /dev/md0 to /dev/evms/md/md0 needed to make that work?
[10:05] <Hikaru79> I'm getting ~40 kbps where usually I would get about 400.
[10:05] <exobuzz> acojlo: for example an intel mac mini... (without using the boot camp legacy bios emulation)
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Oh, okay. So there's nothing wrong with the new install.
[10:05] <Hikaru79> Thanks, thoreauputic =)
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: there was a blackout a few days ago - I think they are doing some maintenance
[10:06] <Hikaru79> Ah, I see.
[10:06] <Hikaru79> So a few days ago, there were no apt repositories at all?
[10:06] <exobuzz> uniq: well. if i dont use it as evms volume, the md driver handles it, and I couldnt manage it from within evms properly (i think).. (my memory)]
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: for a while
[10:06] <Hikaru79> Whew, glad I missed that ^ ^;
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: although I guess mirrors were still OK
[10:07] <exobuzz> uniq: although to be honest, i just need to understyand the differences and interactions between using it as evms or not. there is little documentation on this. I dont like not understanding how things work :-)
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79:  security.ubuntu.com was giving me only 18 Kb/sec a while ago ( a few hours)
[10:07] <pichi> hello
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Well, thanks for putting my mind at ease, thoreau :)
[10:07] <Hikaru79> Time to reboot into the new kernel.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> Hikaru79: no worries :)
[10:07] <Ace2006> Anyone know of a font manager which will show them all and allow me to +fav some?
[10:08] <uniq> exobuzz: as they have the same major & minor numbers i would guess it doesn't matter.
[10:08] <exobuzz> uniq: i guess :-)
[10:08] <exobuzz> the only noticable difference, is the warnings from evms on disk removal. with the md driver, you would have to tell it to mail you or something specifically i guess
[10:09] <acojlo> by default, if I run no server, just clients like Konversation, web browser etc. ... is Kubuntu safe?
[10:09] <exobuzz> i think i still need to use mdadm to email me if a disk is no longer in the array though. im not sure evms will do that.
[10:09] <uniq> acojlo: yes.
[10:09] <exobuzz> although smartmontools will email me if a disk fails. so i guess i can use that
[10:09] <uniq> acojlo: if you install security updates regularily.
[10:11] <acojlo> ok - this topic - security - was a little bit confusing for me - because I read you have iptables, but some sites sugested to install firewall not mentioning iptables. It is just confusing if you enter the jungle of linux :)
[10:11] <acojlo> it's jungle because I'm new
[10:12] <Tommy2k4`> my / partition is too small again -__-
[10:12] <Tommy2k4`> i resized it yesterday and im sure i made it bigger than what it is =/
[10:12] <acojlo> :)
[10:14] <xylus> ok i installed lm sensors but it says i should have i2c installed
[10:14] <xylus> i follow the tut exactley
[10:14] <xylus> but im suck on the last part for updateing the sensors
[10:14] <uniq> acojlo: the thing is, the firewall feature is included in kubuntu. it's named iptables. However you don't have any rules by default. So, to use it for anything usefull you'll have to make firewall rules. What people often refer to as 'install a firewall' is actually 'make some rules', or 'install a helper program to make firewall rules'.
[10:14] <trappist> acojlo: the kernel filters packets, and the section of kernel code that does that is called netfilter.  iptables is a userspace program that just sends rules to the kernel's netfilter code.  things like guarddog are frontends to iptables that make it easier to configure a firewall.
[10:15] <xylus> i figure its because i dont have i2c
[10:16] <acojlo> finaly - trappist and uniq - you are the true wisdom in linux country :)
[10:18] <neom> Is there a kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?
[10:20] <acojlo> but kernel config says fot net filter - you don't need it if you run a normal host
[10:20] <timi_> hello
[10:20] <byakguan> anyone there
[10:21] <byakguan> helllo
[10:21] <byakguan> help someone reply
[10:21] <exobuzz> reply to what ?
[10:21] <exobuzz> you didnt ask anything
[10:21] <byakguan> aright
[10:21] <acojlo> :)
[10:22] <byakguan> well it wasnt shwoing any convo at all
[10:22] <byakguan> and this thing is like never evr dead os i figured it was messed up
[10:22] <exobuzz> because in the 5 seconds you gave it, noone wrote anything
[10:22] <exobuzz> :-)
[10:22] <timi_> no ive been on 4 or five times
[10:22] <timi_> and it wasnt working
[10:22] <exobuzz> maybe you are right.a ctually i can't see what you are writing..
[10:22] <exobuzz> hello ? :-)
[10:23] <timi_>  haha
[10:23] <timi_> anbody get there widgets to load correctly w/o superkaramab thing poppin up
[10:24] <kalinda> Hello, all.. I need Samba help >_<
[10:26] <mattttttt> how do i choose which partition i want to  boot from?
[10:27] <kalinda> in your fstab, probably
[10:27] <kalinda> that is, Linux automatically boots from the / partition
[10:27] <mattttttt> i have XP in one partition, then i have kubuntu in another
[10:28] <mattttttt> in theory....
[10:28] <mattttttt> >_<
[10:28] <exobuzz> then you need a bootloader.. you can use grub on the mbr to boot both os's. or install lilo/grub on the linux partition, and use a mbr boot manager to choose
[10:28] <exobuzz> lilo on the mbr can also boot both os's
[10:29] <mattttttt> i have no clue what that means...
[10:29] <mattttttt> google time
[10:29] <edward_f> are multipart-rars automatically joined/extracted by selecting them and clicking 'extract here'?
[10:29] <exobuzz> edward_f: with what software ? with ark ?
[10:29] <exobuzz> yes
[10:29] <edward_f> ark and unrar
[10:30] <exobuzz> yes
[10:30] <xylus> can anyone tell me what htis means Run the mkdev.sh script in the lm-sensors source
[10:30] <xylus> where do i find the im-sensors source at
[10:30] <heinkel_111_> mattttttt: if i recall correctly, you define which partition shall be bootable and which shall have prioprity at install time, when you partitions the harddisk
[10:30] <neom> Am I to presume there is no kubuntu liveCD that will work on my MacBook?
[10:30] <edward_f> exobuzz: thx
[10:30] <exobuzz> neom: no.. there is..
[10:30] <exobuzz> neom: search on google for mactel linux
[10:30] <xylus> again can anyone tell me where the lm sensors source is?
[10:30] <neom> tnx!
[10:31] <alkalinex> composition manager crashed twice within a minute?
[10:31] <xylus> ich this program is the biggest hastle in the world to install
[10:31] <exobuzz> oh wait.. macbook is intel or ppc ?
[10:31] <xylus> ive done every step and it still dosent work or make sence
[10:32] <alkalinex> xylus, im feeling the same way about the whole of kubuntu
[10:32] <exobuzz> mactel is for intel. i dont know about ppc live cd..
[10:32] <kameronk> the macbook is intel, powerbook is powerpc
[10:32] <exobuzz> ok
[10:32] <xylus> lol alk kubuntu isent so bad
[10:32] <exobuzz> my mac mini ppc runs debian.. :)
[10:32] <xylus> some of it is bleh
[10:32] <xylus> but for the most part once u get the hang of apt
[10:32] <kameronk> i dont think that any version of linux easily runs on the intel macs
[10:32] <exobuzz> and my mac mini intel runs debian. sorry :)
[10:32] <xylus> you got it coverd
[10:32] <timi_> anbody know to change their bootpslash
[10:33] <xylus> yeah timi
[10:33] <xylus> go to run and type in kconfig
[10:33] <xylus> ;)
[10:33] <alkalinex> apt-get install firefox... then ff crashes.. FUN!
[10:33] <xylus> alk
[10:33] <xylus> you need to type apt-get install mozilla i think
[10:33] <xylus> or just try add remove programs
[10:33] <xylus> and find it in their
[10:33] <timi_> kconfig doesnt exists
[10:33] <exobuzz> Kameronk. there are some kernel patches to make it work,. with simple framebuffer. not tried ati. think you need to run in bootcamp mode for ati drivers. but then there are other issues
[10:33] <xylus> hold on timi jsut a sec
[10:33] <exobuzz> like machine not booting without monitor connected (on my intel mac mini).
[10:33] <xylus> sry its run kcontroll
[10:33] <kameronk> o ok, thank you exobuzz
[10:34] <darryl> hello
[10:34] <xylus> youll find splash editor in their ;)
[10:34] <xylus> can anyone help me install my lm sensors ive done every step
[10:34] <xylus> in the tut
[10:34] <exobuzz> kameronk: if you install bootcamp you can boot the standard i386 kubuntu live cd
[10:34] <xylus> and i still cant figure this out
[10:34] <timi_> yeah xylus thats splash not bootsplash
[10:34] <kameronk> really? i had read somewhere that it didn't work...
[10:34] <xylus> oh u wana change the boot splash no clue :(
[10:34] <exobuzz> kameronk: that might be easier. otherwise you have to boot from efi to a hfs+ partition. you would need to "bless" the bootloader also. its quite a pain.. the bootcamp method is a bit easier
[10:35] <kameronk> o ok
[10:35] <timi_> hey how can i get it to not remember the desktop
[10:35] <timi_> so when i log in its just blank
[10:35] <BluesKaj> !easyubuntu
[10:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:35] <exobuzz> kameronk: i got it working im sure.. only problem i wanted my machine as a server, and it wouldnt boot without monitor in bootcamp mode. in the end i went for an efi boot. more complicated but works without monitor.. guess the bootcamp bios emu code feezes waiting for monitor ddc info ?
[10:35] <Lunar_Raven> !azureus
[10:35] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:36] <kameronk> exobuzz: is there support in the kernel for the camera and wifi/bluetooth?
[10:36] <timi_> who was that easy ubuto towards
[10:36] <exobuzz> kameronk: join the mactel mailinglist. best place for answers about that..
[10:36] <kameronk> thank you
[10:36] <kameronk> what is the link?
[10:36] <exobuzz> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users
[10:36] <kameronk>  thanks
[10:37] <exobuzz> info on the wiki too http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:37] <timi_> hey anyone know how i cant get kubunut to not remember session and just log off
[10:37] <Graytooth> I just received some Live CDs. Has anyone had any problems using them?
[10:37] <timi_> graytooth, no
[10:37] <exobuzz> Graytooth: they worked fine when i used them.. although i used them as coasters
[10:37] <exobuzz> :-)
[10:37] <timi_> me says yes
[10:37] <timi_> me/ says
[10:38] <Graytooth> I see.
[10:38] <Graytooth> Is there any way of using the Live CD just to install Dapper? Maybe I don't have enough memory.
[10:38] <exobuzz> you can install from the livecd sure. in fact its maybe the easiest way for new users ?
[10:39] <exobuzz> although i prefer the alternative install cd..
[10:39] <exobuzz> how much memory do you have. and what do you want to run ?
[10:39] <Graytooth> But I cannot even get anything to work in the live cd. I have over 275 MBs. I know that much.  It is like watching molasses drip out of a flask.
[10:41] <Graytooth> I'll try that.
[10:41] <timi_> graytooth im using dell e1505 i had troubles until i tried safe graphics mode
[10:42] <alkalinex> btw, is it normal for an installation to take <5 mins?
[10:42] <timi_> no
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu also comes up in lo res on first login, 640x480 or some such silly thing , who dreamed that up anyway?
[10:42] <timi_> it doest always do that blues
[10:42] <alkalinex> :\
[10:42] <timi_> my first lgoin was 1025x768
[10:43] <admiral_proFTW> what is the umask command for all users?
[10:43] <timi_> any one have kbootsplash
[10:43] <jackle> what is the root password for the 6.06 kubuntu live cd/install disc?
[10:43] <Blaidd> I was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it
[10:43] <BluesKaj> I have an old monitor but it's prolly my run of the ati video that causes it
[10:43] <admiral_proFTW> I'm editing an fstab and I know think I have to write umask=0255 but u;m not sure
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> jackle there isnt one
[10:44] <alkalinex> !eyecandy
[10:44] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> !umask
[10:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about umask - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:44] <admiral_proFTW> !fstab
[10:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:46] <alkalinex> ok, so i apt-get install firefox... why does it crash?
[10:46] <draik> alkalinex, it's 'apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[10:46] <alkalinex> oh ok
[10:47] <alkalinex> and what about this error i get "Composition manager has crashed twice within a minute"
[10:47] <alkalinex> ?
[10:48] <Tommy2k4`> can i safely uninstall kmail
[10:49] <acojlo_> is it normal for X to take 10-15 seconds to show KDM login?
[10:49] <Blaidd> can anyone point me towards the bttv config file?
[10:50] <Stardog> Why cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?
[10:50] <iradio> enterprise volume management system is crashing on a glibc error on bootup. How can I fix?
[10:50] <acojlo_> someone is thinking right now :)
[10:50] <z00m> whats the best version to stay with kubuntu amd64 or the i386 version ?\
[10:51] <z00m> is the amd64 more secure ?
[10:51] <unstablesob> anyone know why i would suddenly be getting "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" when trying to install subversion?
[10:52] <Stardog> Why cant I view(or preview) .jpg images in Konqueror or standard imageviewer program for kubuntu?
[10:53] <aliasfred> why life is so cruel
[10:53] <timi_> you anyone have a program that allows them to change their bootsplashes
[10:53] <timi_> ive heard of kbootsplahs but i tried to compile it and there wasnt a "proper c compiler"
[10:53] <timi_> or something
[10:54] <Stardog> i cant view .jpg files and some .png files... what's wrong?
[10:56] <Stardog> draik: yes... i cant even preview them in Konqueror....
[10:56] <Cntryboy> I have a dir on the desktop that won't let me delete, I'm typing sudo rm (dir) and it gives a error can't remove : is a dir
[10:57] <Frederick> folks my kde bar just dissapeared what can I do to recover it?
[10:57] <secleinteer> timi_: you can change this in system settings
[10:57] <teknoprep> right click the file... open with .. your favorite viewer
[10:57] <draik> Cntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'
[10:57] <JesperS> hey guys
[10:58] <draik> Stardog, What error do you get if you try to open it through an application, rather than clicking on the picture file?
[10:58] <JesperS> I would appreciate some help with Cedega, more specifically World of Warcraft installation
[10:59] <Hawkwind> JesperS: Why not ask in #Cedega or #WineHQ where the experts on that stuff are
[10:59] <draik> Cntryboy, did that work for you?
[11:00] <Stardog> draik: well... i think I've found out some information.... when i open them, its just blank.... no errorrmsg... but when i look at the properties, every picture i cant open is at 0 bytes....
[11:03] <noxs> does someone know a game like counterstrike for linux?
[11:04] <Stardog> noxs: unreal turnament :p
[11:04] <noxs> free?
[11:04] <Cntryboy> ok back
[11:04] <draik> noxs, no, it's not free
[11:04] <Stardog> noxs: demo yes
[11:04] <Cntryboy> draik: did what work
[11:04] <timi_> does anyone know how i can get aero to read my yahoo webmail account
[11:04] <noxs> where to get?
[11:04] <draik> Cntryboy, the command is 'sudo rm -r (dir)'
[11:05] <Frederick> folks my kde menubar dissapeared any ideas?
[11:05] <draik> Cntryboy, for removing the directory
[11:05] <BluesKaj> wann a play games ...get an xbox !
[11:05] <Cntryboy> let me try
[11:05] <Cntryboy> what does -r mean
[11:05] <Cntryboy> so I can remember for later uses
[11:05] <Stardog> noxs: just search for their homepage in google, and you'll find the demo, with linuxinstall
[11:05] <Cntryboy> and yes it works
[11:05] <Cntryboy> thx :)
[11:05] <BlankB> Cntryboy: -r = recursive
[11:05] <Stardog> noxs: i think Quake also works on linux
[11:05] <Cntryboy> whats recursive mean lol
[11:09] <Frederick> folks anyoneelse having problems with kde menubar?
[11:09] <Frederick> mmyne refuses to show up
[11:09] <Blissex> a guy called <Frederick> apparently does :-)
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, At all ?
[11:10] <Blissex> Frederick: it has happened to me some time ago, it usually happens on incomplete updates when things get messed up.
[11:10] <Stardog> is Krita the same as Gimp ?
[11:10] <acojlo_> is there something like #acpi channel ? or powersuspending ?
[11:10] <timi_> !krita
[11:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about krita - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:11] <Frederick> Blissex: when I didn't update sincesometime so it shouldn't happen
[11:11] <Frederick> how can I fix it?
[11:11] <Blissex> Frederick: however, just to try things, run 'kwrapper kicker' and check what happens
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: 'krita' is good, but not as powerful as Gimp.
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: try #KDE
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: oooops sorry
[11:11] <acojlo_> ok :)
[11:11] <Frederick> it reports to be already running
[11:11] <Blissex> acojlo_: there is probably a #suspend channel somewhere
[11:12] <Blissex> acojlo_: there is a searchable list of channels... wait for the URL
[11:12] <acojlo> ok
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, or do what i do.... rm .kde/share/apps/kicker/ -rfv
[11:12] <Frederick> Blissex: how can I run the updates?
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> Frederick, and the run kicker..
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> then*
[11:13] <Blissex> acojlo: check this for the section on how to find a channel: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[11:13] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: a bit extreme, but probably works. however VERY IMPORTANT note: always put the options BEFORE the arguments to which they apply.
[11:14] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, resone ?
[11:14] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: most commands scan the argument list left to right.
[11:14] <Frederick> Hotwire: it pops and dissapear
[11:14] <acojlo> personal support bitch :)))))))))))))))
[11:15] <acojlo> thanks blissex
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, i simply gotten used to the ones that don'nt. anyways tx for the note. i'd keep it
[11:15] <secleinteer> acojlo: no need for profanity here
[11:15] <acojlo> no, it's quote from url provided by blissex
[11:15] <Blissex> |lostbyte|: anyhow really really assume that the scan is left to right.
[11:15] <Hotwire> Frederick, i assume you missed tabbed my name
[11:15] <secleinteer> censor it or something
[11:16] <secleinteer> just try and stay away from that
[11:16] <Frederick> Hotwire: sorry
[11:16] <acojlo> quote : "Help is provided by the channel, not by anybody in particular. Don't assume anybody is there to be your personal support bitch."
[11:16] <acojlo> ok ok.  I've been calling my gf that for years. damn!
[11:17] <exobuzz> :)
[11:17] <acojlo> :))
[11:17] <secleinteer> could you just stop saying it on the public channel?
[11:18] <exobuzz> I only wrote it. but ok :-)
[11:18] <secleinteer> i'm trying to tell you b4 a mod kickbans you for it
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> Blissex, weird.. though. if i want to rmove a file that is names "rfv".
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> named*
[11:19] <Frederick> oki I'm updating all apps
[11:19] <Frederick> still in despair
[11:19] <xavi> wolas a tod@s
[11:19] <exobuzz> what ever you do, don't mention the war..
[11:19] <BluesKaj> exobuzz, the chat rules here tend to be a bit straight laced
[11:20] <exobuzz> ill be good
[11:20] <BluesKaj> i was chastized using the F word in frustration a while back :)
[11:20] <exobuzz> yeh. fedora is a nasty word!
[11:20] <secleinteer> :-)
[11:21] <Frederick> dammm no ideas for me?
[11:21] <exobuzz> Frederick: i missed your problem.. what was it ?
[11:21] <exobuzz> Frederick: i have a scrollback buffer, but that would require using the mouse, and my eyes. enither of which work very well..
[11:21] <Frederick> exobuzz: kde menu bar dissapeared without apparent reason
[11:22] <exobuzz> the kicker at the bottom of the screen (normally) ?
[11:22] <Frederick> yes
[11:22] <exobuzz> and when you restart kde ?
[11:22] <Frederick> Ive killed and called it again
[11:22] <Frederick> removed its files
[11:22] <Frederick> and run it again
[11:22] <exobuzz> you removed its files ?
[11:22] <Frederick> exobuzz: Ive tried it too
[11:22] <Frederick> exobuzz: it's config files from my profile
[11:23] <exobuzz> and it doesnt appear when you statr kde ?
[11:23] <exobuzz> start
[11:23] <Frederick> it appeares and then disappear
[11:23] <exobuzz> hmm
[11:23] <Frederick> like if it where minimized to out of screen
[11:23] <exobuzz> oh
[11:24] <exobuzz> you deleted
[11:24] <exobuzz> .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[11:24] <exobuzz> .kde/share/apps/kicker
[11:24] <exobuzz> ?
[11:24] <exobuzz> (from your home dir)
[11:25] <BluesKaj> is the kicker logo still in the panel, Frederick?
[11:25] <Frederick> nope
[11:27] <BluesKaj> what's in the corner where the K-menu should be ?
[11:27] <Frederick> nothing the whole bar dissapeared
[11:27] <unstablesob_> ok, I'm running kubuntu on an ibook and KDE is frozen. My mouse works but nothing else. How do I kill X on a ibook keyboard?
[11:28] <exobuzz> is kicker running (ps uax | grep "kicker") ?
[11:28] <Frederick> unstablesob_: ctrl + bacxkspace
[11:28] <unstablesob_> I can't get to a ocmmand line
[11:29] <Frederick> 1000      4850  0.6  5.4  31852 14076 pts/2    S    18:14   0:05 kicker
[11:29] <unstablesob_> Frederick: my backspace is labeled "delete", so I'm unsure if that counts, but I tried Ctrl+Delete, Command+Delete, Fn+Ctrl+Delete, and Fn+Command+Delete, any other suggestions?
[11:29] <exobuzz> and you are sure kicker is not just minimised (small rectangle at corner of screen with arrow) ?
[11:30] <Frederick> exobuzz: yep i'm ive checked it also changed screen resolution to be 100% sure
[11:31] <BluesKaj> right click in the desktop ,click on the run cmd an type panel in the dialogbox and the panel option should come upoptions
[11:31] <Frederick> BluesKaj: ?
[11:32] <Frederick> it pps and fades
[11:32] <Frederick> pops
[11:32] <BluesKaj> bummer
[11:32] <Frederick> ?
[11:32] <Frederick> how do I open it in verbose mode
[11:32] <Frederick> ?
[11:33] <intelikey> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[11:33] <intelikey> >>
[11:33] <intelikey> >> You must install ncurses-devel in order
[11:34] <intelikey> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[11:36] <intelikey> Q, can the default *buntu dapper installation build the kernel source ?
[11:36] <intelikey> on special gcc version required ?
[11:36] <intelikey> glibc  ???
[11:37] <xylus> does anyone know of a good fserv irc cliant for linux ??
[11:38] <xylus> i would verrymuch like someone to refer me to a good script and cliant plz
[11:38] <intelikey> fserv ?
[11:38] <xylus> yeah file hosting
[11:38] <xylus> fservs as in shareing via irc
[11:39] <Frederick> oki so what can I do?
[11:39] <xylus> alittle msg pops up displaying my fserv information and people can type it in and download my stuff
[11:39] <xylus> noone knows of a good fserv irc script for linux?
[11:40] <intelikey> idk   google.com/linux  search is supposed to search for linux related pages   and sourceforge.net search might be more productive.
[11:40] <xylus> allrighty
[11:40] <Frederick> how do I open that big menu kde has?
[11:40] <Frederick> the one with all system options
[11:41] <trappist> kcontrol?
[11:41] <intelikey> kcontrol ?
[11:41] <intelikey> i said it first,  i'm just lagging....
[11:41] <intelikey> :)
[11:42] <trappist> suuuuure
 kcontrol ?
[11:42] <Frederick> well I gtg I wil lgrok it later
 kcontrol?
 i said it first,  i'm just lagging....
[11:42] <Frederick> thanks folks
[11:42] <gatekeeper> intelikey: there are howto's to build kernels in the ubuntu forums
[11:43] <intelikey> gatekeeper but are any special gcc or glibc versions needed ?
[11:44] <gatekeeper> intelikey: never tried it sorry I wouldn't know
[11:44] <intelikey> forums are unreachable atm  for me.   no ssl support.
[11:44] <timi> damn
[11:44] <intelikey> k thanks for the input just the same.
[11:45] <mark___> ok im trying to install some stuff using apt-get
[11:45] <mark___> and i get an error message dpkg was interrupted
[11:45] <timi> im trying to compile something but i have no gcc, no cc, cl
[11:45] <intelikey> timi build-essential
[11:45] <timi> and here is no acceptable compiler in $Path
[11:46] <timi> ido that in the same directory?
[11:46] <gatekeeper> intelikey: ubuntu forums have just come up for me, quickly too, as for gcc, I would just use the latest version in the package manager, should do the job
[11:46] <intelikey> !build-essential > timi
[11:46] <trappist> timi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:46] <intelikey> gatekeeper k ty.
[11:47] <gatekeeper> intelikey: yw for what it's worth :-)
[11:47] <timi> thanks
[11:48] <gatekeeper> timi: some distros install gcc by default, (k)ubuntu doesn't
[11:48] <acojlo> my keyboard was dead after "sudo biosdecode and password"
[11:48] <acojlo> just synaptics worked
[11:49] <timi> i trid to compile again and it got way farther but it cant find X includes
[11:49] <timi> do i have to apt get taht or would it be something in teh directory
[11:49] <draik> timi, have you done ./configure yet?
[11:50] <timi> yeah thats the last thing it says when i run that command
[11:50] <draik> what is the file"\
[11:50] <draik> file?
[11:50] <timi> the file
[11:51] <timi> im trying to compile a program
[11:51] <draik> right... you said it couldn't find something
[11:51] <draik> was it a file?
[11:51] <intelikey> timi  xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries
[11:51] <timi> ok im figuring i need apt get that or adept it or something
[11:52] <intelikey> yep
[11:52] <draik> right
[11:52] <timi> ok is this right then
[11:52] <timi> sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[11:52] <intelikey> yep
[11:53] <GIGANTOR> do macs have a command line?
[11:53] <draik> timi, yet
[11:53] <draik> timi, yes
[11:53] <timi> thnks
[11:53] <draik> np
[11:54] <intelikey> system call auditing support in the kernel, good or bad ?
[11:54] <draik> GIGANTOR, I think they do, I don't have any exp with them, but I'm sure they do
[11:54] <intelikey> timi may i ask what you are building ?
[11:54] <timi> kbootsplahs
[11:54] <timi> not it says this
[11:54] <timi> Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries)
[11:54] <timi> now* it says
[11:54] <intelikey> qtdev
[11:54] <timi> haha ok thanks
[11:55] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[11:55] <Tm_T> Qt 4.2 <3
[11:55] <timi> i tried apt-get install qtdev and it said the cant find packate
[11:56] <draik> it's case sensitive...
[11:56] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[11:56] <draik> Qtdev
[11:56] <timi> i tried apt cache search
[11:56] <timi> lol but i did work
[11:57] <intelikey> apt-cache search dev | grep -ie qt
[11:57] <intelikey> qt4-dev-tools - Qt 4 development tools
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> what in the heck...  i got banned from ubuntu-offtopic for saying "f*cking"
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> with the asterick.
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> blaaah
[11:57] <draik> GIGANTOR, why would you even try it?!?!
[11:57] <GIGANTOR> LOL
[11:58] <intelikey> fsck offtopic
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> i assumed it was for grown ups, i dunno
[11:58] <intelikey> E; offtopic not a file system.
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> ESRB: online experience may change
[11:58] <gatekeeper> there is a libqt4-dev package
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> but i put an astericks...   cmon now..
[11:58] <GIGANTOR> someone go tell em to unban me  =S
[11:59] <draik> oh well
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> i play nice
[11:59] <draik> lol
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> whats up with people nowadays
[11:59] <GIGANTOR> so sensitive
[11:59] <intelikey> GIGANTOR * matches everything.  so the bot sees it as f[A-z,0-9, ,,] cking
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> even the president said that...  gah
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> ohhh, so it was some unintelligent life form...
[12:00] <intelikey> no
[12:00] <GIGANTOR> well then...
[12:00] <intelikey> life from    hehhe no.
[12:01] <GIGANTOR> hrmph...  didn't like UBUNTU any dang ways
[12:01] <GIGANTOR> thats why i went KUBUNTU, probably
[12:01] <draik> !wall
[12:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about wall - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:01] <intelikey> warn all  ?
[12:02] <Dasnipa`> GIGANTOR, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same project essentially... doesnt make sense to say you dont like ubuntu and say you like kubuntu... the only thing that would fit there would be for you to say you dont like gnome and like KDE
[12:02] <acojlo> what does it mean (pam_unix) in authentication log?
[12:02] <Blaidd> I was wondering if someone might have a second to answer a question or two of mine.  I'm looking for the bttv config file in breezey, but haven't been able to find it
[12:03] <intelikey> Dasnipa` is it ok to say i don't like *buntu then  :)
[12:03] <timi> i used adept and installed libqt4-dev
[12:03] <timi> but i still get this
[12:03] <timi>  error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:04] <draik> GIGANTOR, why not split your words into things that go together... like sofa king
[12:04] <timi> does that men i shoud install qt 3 or something
[12:04] <draik> yes timi
[12:04] <intelikey> timi i tried to teach you how to find it.
[12:04] <intelikey> libqt3-headers - Qt3 header files
[12:04] <draik> timi, as long as it's version is between 3.2 and 4.0
[12:05] <acojlo> oh, I have a standard error from the moment I installed Kubuntu in log: kdm_greet : Internal error: memory corruption detected . WHy?
[12:05] <Blaidd> anyone able to help me with bttv?
[12:05] <GIGANTOR> lol draik
[12:06] <intelikey> !info kbootsplash
[12:06] <ubotu> Package kbootsplash does not exist in dapper
[12:06] <draik> GIGANTOR, I Am We Todd Did, I Am Sofa King We Todd Did
[12:06] <mehdi> do you know how i can conf apache2 (ServerName)
[12:06] <timi> right so i got past the qt thing
[12:07] <timi> now i have no kde headers
[12:07] <intelikey> apt-cache search is your friend
[12:07] <mehdi> {#/etc/apache2/??/XX.conf


[00:08] <Pici> topyli?
[00:12] <topyli> Pici: only half joking there. those guys take half the night with nonsense, then insert trolling
[00:12] <Pici> topyli: ah
[00:12] <topyli> not a good thing to do of course, sorry :/
[00:34] <Flannel> Hi SeaPhor, how can we help you today?
[00:35] <SeaPhor> I've been watching the issues in the channel for about an hour, helping when I could, and i've noticed 2 ppl that have been ,,, well need to be watched IMO..
[00:36] <SeaPhor> they are giving advice that may be technically correct but not best to deal with new ppl, like calling gksudo gedit lame and recommending vi, thats just one of many examples
[00:36] <Flannel> SeaPhor: Sounds good.  Who?
[00:37] <SeaPhor> Titan8990 and gogeta
[00:37] <Flannel> Alright, we'll keep an eye on them
[00:38] <SeaPhor> gogeta just recommended using su, maybe even root- (sorry i stepped out)
[00:39] <SeaPhor> thanks, i dont want to spend the night giving a class on how to use vi, lol, again, g'night
[01:05]  * Pici sighs
[01:06] <Flannel> What?
[01:06] <Pici> Can we stop telling people that wubi is bad
[01:07] <Flannel> sebsebseb?
[01:07] <Flannel> no, who did?
[01:07] <Flannel> Oh, it was sebsebse
[01:07] <Pici> Well.. I know ikonia does...
[01:07] <Pici> Sorry to name names ikonia :/
[01:09] <Flannel> sebsebseb is totally anti-wubi, he'll chime in anywhere to mention it's bad.  It's a bit silly.
[01:53] <Pici> I don't even know what that was abot
[01:53] <Pici> er, about, not a bot
[01:53] <Flannel> It shouldn't have been a kick
[01:53] <Flannel> just a warning
[01:53] <Flannel> seb^3 is getting trigger happy
[01:53] <Flannel> Although, he (the guy) was getting sort of wonky
[01:53] <Pici> Yeah, thats why I kicked
[02:36] <Flannel> oh no
[02:36] <Seeker`> oh no?
[02:37] <Flannel> TheeMahn is asking for Colin Watson, TheeMahn is Ultimate Edition/ultamatix guy
[02:38] <Pici> Where?
[02:38] <Flannel> #u
[02:38] <Flannel> just spammed a whois too
[02:38] <Pici> oh, now he flooded
[02:39] <Flannel> should we point him to -devel?
[02:39] <Pici> tes
[02:39] <Pici> yes
[02:39] <Pici> And then grab the popcorn
[02:39] <Flannel> yeah, I sort of want to join and watch
[02:40] <Flannel> actually, it'd probably be good to be in there anyway...
[02:40] <Pici> Yeah ;)
[02:41] <Seeker`> why does he need to talk to colin watson about it?
[02:41] <Flannel> well, I originally joined a bunch of my channels just to absorb stuff, -devel might be a good place for that too
[02:42] <Pici> Flannel: As did I
[02:54] <Seeker`> seen -devel?
[02:54] <Pici> Watching, confused,
[02:55] <Pici> He seems paranoid
[02:58] <Flannel> odd indeed.
[03:05] <Flannel> !away > w4ett
[04:52] <elky> i'm intrigued as to what cjwatson has done to warrant this
[04:55] <elky> also, why was thefunkbomb asking for me in -ot?
[04:57] <Flannel> Looking for a good computer parts site, apparently.
[04:57] <Flannel> in AU
[06:33] <elky> ... ooookay
[06:35] <Depressed> Hi
[06:36] <elky> hi, 'sup?
[06:36] <Depressed> Hey flannel
[06:36] <Depressed> long time no see
[06:36] <Depressed> oh, sup
[06:37] <elky> something i can help you with?
[06:37] <Depressed> just wanted to talk
[06:38] <elky> this really is not a chat channel
[06:38] <Depressed> srry
[06:38] <elky> if you know flannel, maybe if you PM him, then he can get back to you when he's around
[06:38] <nalioth> if Flannel is around, you could probably PM him
[06:39] <Depressed> k
[06:39] <Depressed> ty
[06:40] <Flannel> erm
[06:40] <Flannel> right
[06:41] <Flannel> Depressed: If there's no op business, please part here
[06:43] <elky> ?
[06:43] <Flannel> I had no idea who that was,
[06:44] <elky> had implies you do know now.
[06:44] <Flannel> until he mentioned his DS... its one of the DS kids... why does he want to chat with me?
[06:44] <elky> ah
[06:44] <Flannel> yeah, he was one from -ot
[06:44] <Flannel> this ought to be interesting.
[06:44] <elky> the why, i assume, is to convince you to unban their open proxy
[06:44] <Flannel> Oh, didn't shadowwhatever say he wasn't going to let anyone on at all?
[06:45] <Flannel> elky: I'm pretty sure it was lifted
[06:45] <elky> i dont know the reason for the lift at all. it happened while i was sleeping
[07:49] <Flannel> Who do we poke to fix planet, does anyone know?
[07:53] <elky> #canonical-sysadmin was poked about 14 hours ago and said they'd fixed the .ini file. i suspect cron choked up and is still dead or something
[07:55] <elky> i just poked them again, but it is weekend
[08:25] <Flannel> !away > Shaan7|lunch
[09:08] <jussi01> !info slrn
[09:09] <jussi01> !info slrn > andrew_46
[12:34]  * elky is tempted to change the !bing response to "-o was his name-o!"
[12:35] <Gary> just get ubottu to /me sets mode +b %username
[12:40] <topyli> evil
[12:42] <Gary> can it do /me's ?
[12:45] <Seeker`> it is technically possible for supybots to do actions
[12:45] <Seeker`> whether the factoid script is set up to do it is a different matter
[13:07] <elky> lets not. lets just go with my suggestion
[14:03] <Seeker`> Mystic in -ot is a bot, imo
[14:06] <Seeker`> @bansearch mystic
[14:07] <Seeker`> -16:02:37- [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Mystic: NightBot 0.2
[14:08] <Seeker`> enough for a kick/ban you reckon?
[14:10] <elky> i'm pretty sure we've had this bot before...
[14:10] <Seeker`> @bansearch rps4913.ovh.net
[14:10] <elky> at least, i recall a bot called mystic
[14:10] <Seeker`> eugh, silly bot
[14:10] <bazhang> another bavabot aibav?
[14:12] <Seeker`> cant see anything in the BT
[14:12] <Seeker`> should I remove from channel?
[14:16] <elky> yes.


[22:11] <dobey> anyone around that can help me with some de, eu, fr, and pt translations?
[22:17] <dobey> and ca@valencia