[14:49] <kveldulf> lol is that it...
[14:49] <ph8> Hey all; i'm looking at KVM - does it need a special kernel like other virtualisation methods?
[14:49] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: don't think that works for java.
[14:49] <Lamego> kveldulf, java -version ?
[14:49] <kveldulf> i was thinking of something like echo somethign
[14:50] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, it does
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> no, java -version should do it.
[14:50] <kveldulf> yup that's it
[14:50] <kveldulf> thanks
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: no, java -ver doesn't
[14:50] <kveldulf> i feel extra dumb now
[14:50] <Lamego> ah
[14:50] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: works here
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> didn't for em
[14:50] <IndyGunFreak> *me
[14:50] <rico> it still wont install the packages, Ive edited the sources :(
[14:50] <Lamego> no one mentioned -ver
[14:50] <hawke_> Hi all ... can anyone explain why sound stops when I switch to a console VT, and how I can get that to stop?
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> i get.. :unrecognized Option: -ver  Could not create the Java virtual machine
[14:51] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: java version "1.7.0" \ IcedTea Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b21) \ IcedTea 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.7.0-b21, mixed mode)
[14:51] <Lamego> IndyGunFreak, erUSUL suggested -version, not -ver
[14:51] <kveldulf> gah
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> Lamego: oh i thought he said ver
[14:51] <kveldulf> i hate this server, they need a new admin guy
[14:51] <kveldulf> can't use java.util.Scanner
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> my bad erUSUL i didn't see what you wrote properly
[14:51] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: ;)
[14:53] <rhineheart_m> where to read postfix errors and courier errors or logs?
[14:54] <sipior> rhineheart_m: /var/log/mail.log
[14:54] <kveldulf> damnit i could do this in 20 minutes if i had the altest version
[14:54] <sipior> rhineheart_m: also mail.err and mail.warn
[14:54] <tactikalnuke> rico: what do you get when you put this into the console:  <sudo aptitude search libartsc0 libaudio2 libmad0 libmpcdec3 libungif4g libxvmc1>
[14:54] <kveldulf> anywho, thanks guys
[14:54] <andresCanavesi>  /join #montevideolibre
[14:54] <teapot>  /server irc.blessed.net
[14:54] <rhineheart_m> sipior, but I cannot see there any error why it cannot accept mails..
[14:54] <rhineheart_m> where to look for it?
[14:55] <sipior> rhineheart_m: i would need a great deal more information before i could form a hypothesis.
[14:55] <erUSUL> andresCanavesi: no pongas espacio antes del / ;)
[14:55] <tactikalnuke> rico: msg me with the output
[14:55] <sipior> rhineheart_m: are you able to fetch mail from other places?
[14:56] <ulo> hi!  where does update manager get the info about what has changed in a package?
[14:56] <tactikalnuke> WHO was looking for the java sdk version?
[14:56] <Lamego> ulo, debian/changelog
[14:56] <praxitelis> whois
[14:56] <Lamego> which is contained on the package
[14:56] <Lamego> tactikalnuke, that question was answered
[14:56] <pajamian> ulo: from the repository.
[14:57] <rhineheart_m> sipior, other places
[14:57] <rhineheart_m> sipior, what do you mean?
[14:57] <ulo> Lamego: could you elaborate on that please?  how would I get it from CLI, for example?
[14:57] <tactikalnuke> IndyGunFreak: type javac --help
[14:57] <Lamego> pajamian, not really, it's grabbed from the package itself, not from the repository
[14:57] <pajamian> Lamego: ahh, right, I misunderstood the question
[14:57] <tactikalnuke> it should provide a list of packages that referance it and list the jsdk ver
[14:57] <sipior> rhineheart_m: well, you said you're having trouble fetching mail from yahoo, if i understood you correctly. do i understand you correctly?
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[14:57] <rico> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62112/
[14:58] <tactikalnuke> Lamego: sorry...working with too many channels
[14:58] <rhineheart_m> sipior, yeah. that's correct
[14:58] <sipior> rhineheart_m: so, can you fetch email from any other sources? or do you just have the one account?
[14:59] <Lamego> ulo, first you need to exctract the debian control contents, .deb = ar (man ar)
[14:59] <Lamego> then you need to untar the debian/control
[14:59] <Old_Soldier> interesting problem: Can't empty user trash in nautilus because of permissions, yet the trash does not show in command line or root nautilus. Hardy bug perhaps?
[14:59] <Lamego> well, here some libraries which abstract all this
[14:59] <Pici> Old_Soldier: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[15:00] <tactikalnuke> how would I take <find ./ -iname '*nude*' -exec ln -s ./NSFW '{}' ';'> and combine it with the MV command to create symlinks in a differant folder based on multiple input from the find command???
[15:00] <rico> hmm, just got tonnes of updates, might fix it
[15:00] <hawke_> ...is it expected that sound stops when switching to vt1?
[15:00] <hawke_> where sound == music
[15:01] <ulo> Lamego: thank you, I'll do some digging around.  doesn't make much sense to me now, but there's only one way to learn
[15:01] <sipior> tactikalnuke: piping the find output to xargs should allow you to do what you want
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> thx
[15:01] <Lamego> ulo,CLI: ar t file.deb
[15:01] <Old_Soldier> well if there was anyone ever in ubuntu-1 :)
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> sipior: not familiar with xargs...but I'll research it
[15:01] <tactikalnuke> thx
[15:01] <ulo> I don't know where the debs are :)
[15:01] <ulo> I'll find it
[15:01] <ulo> it'll be fun
[15:01] <ulo> thanks for the pointers
[15:02] <sipior> tactikalnuke: it's a useful little utility; i think you'll find it well worth your time to master.
[15:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: thx; any recommendations for sites with good info on it? (or just google)?
[15:02] <sipior> tactikalnuke: well, the man page is pretty good :-)
[15:02] <rico> tactikalnuke did u get the paste link?
[15:03] <ice_cream> lo; what's the command to see which version (fiesty, etc) i'm running?
[15:03] <ice_cream> and, also, have they yet figured out how to safely update the whole system w/o installing gnome*
[15:04] <ice_cream> or do i have to create a new kernel each time
[15:04] <soundray> ice_cream: for the version: lsb_release -a
[15:04] <erUSUL> !version
[15:04] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:04] <ice_cream> thx
[15:04] <CJS3141> Newbie question: why does the following command return "bash: block_dump: Permission denied":      sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump          [currently the file has a 0 in it]
[15:04] <ice_cream> i knew it was some cryptic command
[15:05] <soundray> ice_cream: your other two questions don't make sense
[15:05] <genii> CJS3141: echo 1 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/vm/block_dump   instead
[15:05] <ice_cream> soundray, ok, well, in the past i was having difficulty upgrading my system without gnome
[15:05] <pajamian> CJS3141: because it runs "echo 1" as root but the redirect is done as the local user.
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: if you're using Ubuntu Desktop, you have to have ubuntu-desktop installed to upgrade safely, and that includes gnome
[15:06] <ice_cream> exactly
[15:06] <ice_cream> i dont
[15:06] <ice_cream> as it's very space-consuming
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: however, if you have Ubuntu Server, you can update just as safely
[15:06] <soundray> ice_cream: what do you have?
[15:06] <ice_cream> server
[15:06] <u007-1> hi, anyone know how to allow new processes to spawn almost equal priority compared to a heavy running existing process?
[15:06] <ice_cream> i just want to avoid downloading ubuntu-desktop
[15:06] <st1650> How do I upgrade a package from a .deb file download (in this case libc6)
[15:07] <Pici> st1650: You probably don't want to be upgrading libc6.
[15:07] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK I understand now.  genii:Thanks for the command, that makes sense, but isn't there an easier way of putting quotes around the whole thing or something so that sudo runs the redirect as root too?
[15:07] <soundray> st1650: that's a recipe for disaster
[15:07] <st1650> Pici: Yes ... I need to
[15:07] <u007-1> example: multiple running mysql client connection... and somehow, it took a lot of time to allow new mysql connection to be connected
[15:07] <st1650> Is there anyway I can upgrade it differently ?
[15:07] <st1650> without breaking my system?
[15:07] <jaffarkelshac> what email app can i use in ubuntu for hotmail yahoo. gmail
[15:07] <sheepz> thunderbird?
[15:07] <soundray> st1650: probably by upgrading to hardy. Wait until it's release, though
[15:08] <u007-1> jaffakelshac - evolution?
[15:08] <pajamian> CJS3141: you can do this instead: sudo su -c 'place command here'
[15:08] <u007-1> jaffarkelshac - use imap for gmail, if you know how to use it :)
[15:08] <ice_cream> soundray, what did you have in mind?
[15:08] <erUSUL> jaffarkelshac: for gmail you can use any mail client as it supports pop3 and imap ...
[15:08] <soundray> !upgrade | ice_cream
[15:08] <ubotu> ice_cream: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:09] <seamus_ie> hey all. I'm having a strange issue with df and available space on a partition.
[15:09] <jaffarkelshac> i really want something for hotmail to be honest
[15:09] <sipior> u007-1: that probably has little to do with process priority. tracing the client as it connects may point you in the right direction of the problem.
[15:09] <seamus_ie> df reports the partition as being 90G of which 85G is used but only 500M free. any ideas?
[15:09] <u007-1> sipior - what did you meant by tracing the client?
[15:10] <soundray> seamus_ie: it's because of reserved blocks. Have a look at 'man tune2fs'
[15:10] <sipior> u007-1: run strace and figure out what system calls are in progress when the delay occurs.
[15:10] <CJS3141> pajamian: That makes sense. Thanks for the tip! One other question though--if I say "sudo gedit block_dump" (I'm in its directory) why does the file show nothing in it in gedit, yet if I "more" it, it shows 0?
[15:11] <soundray> !gksu | CJS3141
[15:11] <sipior> u007-1: you might also look at a proper system instrumentation tool, like systemtap. unfortunately, systemtap isn't terribly good at the moment. still...
[15:11] <ubotu> CJS3141: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[15:11] <ice_cream> soundray, thanks again!
[15:11] <pajamian> CJS3141: I don't know for sure, but I would not recommend using gedit on /proc files.
[15:11]  * sipior pines for DTrace
[15:11] <ice_cream> it seems to be working fine with just that one update-manager-core tool =)
[15:12] <sheepz> pajamian: you still there?
[15:12] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, so is ubotu's response correct? I would have to use gksu instead?
[15:12] <Frederick> folks how can I have java in a amd64 machine? thapackages seem broken
[15:12] <seamus_ie> soundray: thanks. makes sense in a way. is it safe to set the % of space used for reserved blocks on my home partition to 0?
[15:12] <u007-1> sipior - okay, i will try that :)
[15:12] <pajamian> CJS3141: in fact I wouldn't use any "text editor" on a /proc file, just use echo to write to it and cat to read it.
[15:13] <pajamian> sheepz: yep
[15:13] <u007-1> sipior -  or maybe its just mysql...
[15:13] <smack> hi for all!! somebody knows if I install in ubuntu  8.04 beta, when come out the release, is necesary to update or will be automaticly
[15:13] <sheepz> you got it working with opera?
[15:13] <soundray> seamus_ie: no, you want to keep some space reserved, although 5% is clearly too much on a 90GB partition
[15:13] <rico> Tactikalnuke: Do you mind if I PM u so we can talk about the Mplayer issue?
[15:13] <sipior> smack: should update automatically
[15:13] <seamus_ie> soundray: really, why so on my home part? / has it's own partition
[15:13] <smack> sipior.... many thanks!!!!!
[15:14] <ice_cream> woah, is this realistic? (fiesty->gutsy) 267M.
[15:14] <sriramoman> Frederick: get automatix
[15:15] <Frederick> ?
[15:15] <pajamian> sheepz: nope, but IndyGunFreak is using the beta version of opera (9.5) and I'm running the stable one (9.27).  I would recommend you try the beta version.
[15:15] <soundray> !automatix | Frederick, sriramoman
[15:15] <ubotu> Frederick, sriramoman: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:15] <sriramoman> for java'
[15:15] <sriramoman> i got it today and it worked, fine
[15:15] <sriramoman> after all only one software
[15:16] <soundray> seamus_ie: I'm not sure what the risk is, but reserved blocks are clearly a safety measure, so I wouldn't do away with them completely
[15:16] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, I agree better to do it at the command line. But just so I can understand better what's going on, how come even using "gksudo gedit block_dump" still doesn't show the contents in the file? It just comes up blank. (Thanks for your patience--I'm just trying to learn this stuff).
[15:16] <mattan> @soundray: Sry do you remember my problem (break up, no mount possibility)? Do you help me again?
[15:16] <Frederick> I built it once and worked now it is broken cause Ive updated the packageso I purged all the java packages andneed to build again
[15:16] <soundray> mattan: fainlty
[15:16] <Frederick> thou it doesnt works
[15:16] <soundray> *faintly
[15:16] <sheepz> pajamian:ah, i messed up, it was indy then
[15:17] <Radit> how do i install google earth on ubuntu?
[15:17] <sriramoman> Frederick: automatix is stable as of now
[15:17] <erUSUL> Radit: medibuntu has it
[15:17] <soundray> Radit: it's in the medibuntu repository
[15:17] <soundray> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:17] <ubotu> Radit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:17] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:17] <Frederick> sriramoman: soI just install it?
[15:17] <ubuntu> kewl it worked
[15:17] <pajamian> CJS3141: I don't know, I never tried to use gedit on a /proc file.  The nature of /proc files makes it so that it could be problematic.
[15:17] <sriramoman> yes
[15:17] <DJones> sriramoman, please don't recommend automatix, its not supported in this channel
[15:17] <LjL> !automatix | sriramoman, Frederick
[15:17] <ubotu> sriramoman, Frederick: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:17] <mattan> You ask me for the mount output I put it on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[15:17] <soundray> sriramoman: please don't recommend  automatix here
[15:17] <Frederick> it isnot in multiverse
[15:17] <Frederick> soundray: give me a light
[15:18] <soundray> Frederick: please do not install automatix
[15:18] <Hussni> olaaaa
[15:18] <soundray> !java | Frederick
[15:18] <ubotu> Frederick: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:18]  * erUSUL damm soundray allways at speed 340 m/s ;P
[15:18] <sriramoman> Frederick: come pvt chat
[15:18] <Hussni> Hello
[15:18] <ubuntu> ok
[15:18] <Radit> I already downloaded manually.. How do I install google earth?
[15:18] <LjL> Radit, please get the version from medibuntu instead.
[15:18] <AngryElf> so where do all the crazy gedit experts hang out?
[15:19] <Lamego> !es | Hussni
[15:19] <sipior> Frederick: not sure i follow you: the sun-java6 packages work fine for amd64. what exactly are you trying to compile?
[15:19] <ubotu> Hussni: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:19] <DJones> Frederick, Once you've installed automatix and used it, you'll normally have to do a full reinstall to correct the problems that automatix can cause
[15:19] <CJS3141> pagamian: I don't understand--you're maybe saying the proc file might not be a simple text file? I just don't understand why "more block_dump" would show something while using gedit to look at it wouldn't
[15:19] <soundray> Radit: get it through medibuntu. You'll cause unnecessary difficulties for yourself if you install it by hand
[15:19] <Hussni> hello lamego
[15:19] <pajamian> Radit: you will be better off with the medibuntu version because it will automatically keep it up to date, and it will automatically install all required dependancies, etc.
[15:19] <Hussni> man, d u know ubuntun right
[15:19] <Hussni> ???
[15:20] <Lamego> Hussni, just write your question, tks
[15:20] <yahuuu> hi again
[15:20] <soundray> CJS3141: /proc files aren't regular files, they are an interface to the kernel. Don't use gedit to access /proc entries.
[15:20] <Radit> 22mb's download matter's alot to me..  wil it really cause problems using the downloaded google earth version?
[15:20] <Hussni> i can't started my amsn
[15:20] <pajamian> CJS3141: what soundray said, hehehe
[15:21] <soundray> mattan: so what's the URL?
[15:21] <rico> i had issues with automatix
[15:21] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my 2nd HDD, i have 2 HDD in my pc, 1 for windows and other i want to install ubuntu, when i restart the pc and click on the install button, my screen turns black and display this message by ubuntu " (initramfs) type help for more commands
[15:21] <Hussni> i can't to do my contact list
[15:21] <LjL> Radit, you can't cleanly uninstall it, for starters...
[15:22] <PookAir> How do I install a diffrent language other than english on ubuntu?  Thanks
[15:22] <mattan> @soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62114/
[15:22] <noob-africa> hi everyone
[15:22] <maek> PookAir, it will give you localization settings when you install
[15:22] <soundray> PookAir: System-Administration-Language Support
[15:22] <Lamego> PookAir, System -> Admin -> Lang support
[15:22] <Hairufr> Hey all, what's the chan for the beta release?
[15:22] <maek> hi noob-africa
[15:22] <CJS3141> soundray: OK! :-) Actually, maybe I figured out my problem-- if I do a "file block_dump" it claims the file is empty, so why does "more block_dump
[15:22] <Radit> ... How do i medibuntu?
[15:22] <LjL> Hairufr: #ubuntu+1
[15:23] <LjL> Radit, you follow the instructions from the bot
[15:23] <noob-africa> maek: r u familiar with avant?
[15:23] <CJS3141> soundray: .... return 0? (sorry hit return too soon)
[15:23] <Frederick> folks anyone heremanaged to make ava work in ubuntu on amd64?
[15:23] <Hairufr> cheers LjL  - and how are you ? Been a while
[15:23] <Radit> LjL, what bot?
[15:23] <LjL> i'm ok, thanks
[15:23] <LjL> !medibuntu | Radit
[15:23] <ubotu> Radit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:23] <LjL> this bot
[15:23] <noob-africa> anyone know their way around in avant?
[15:23] <pajamian> CJS3141: because it's not a real file, so any request to the file statistics shows an empty file.
[15:23] <Radit> ohh.. I'll check it out.. thanks LjL and guys..
[15:24] <PookAir> soundray, thanks alot
[15:24] <Frederick> so I need help, ive managed once to make java work through compilling all packages now it is failing
[15:24] <maek> I don't use an OSX style dock ... its plain ol gnome-panel for me
[15:24] <rico> hmm, Automatix will install now, must have been fixed with update lol
[15:24] <soundray> mattan: you were saying that no hda or sda partitions were mounted, but the first line says clearly that your root filesystem is on /dev/hda1
[15:24] <LjL> Radit: you may want to follow the "installing individual packages" paragraph, although that won't automatically update google earth to new versions. if you, instead, enable the new repositories, other packages may get updated from medibuntu too
[15:24] <CJS3141> pajamian: OK, so when I looking around in different directories, how do I know whether a file is a real file or not, or some special system file?
[15:24] <noob-africa> !avant
[15:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:24] <sipior> Frederick: why not simply install sun-java6-jdk?
[15:24] <Frederick> sipior: does not work
[15:25] <Frederick> in am64
[15:25] <sipior> Frederick: can you be more specific?
[15:25] <genii> !hfs | CJS3141
[15:25] <ubotu> CJS3141: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:25] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my 2nd HDD, i have 2 HDD in my pc, 1 for windows and other i want to install ubuntu, when i restart the pc and click on the install button, my screen turns black and display this message by ubuntu " (initramfs) type help for more commands
[15:25] <genii> CJS3141: Forget the bot link, I'll find you one that explains the file structure
[15:25] <Templer> hi there -  has anyone here tried the new ubuntu "hardy"?
[15:25] <pajamian> CJS3141: anything under /proc is a special system file.  Also anything under /dev.  There are also other file types that don't correspond to regular files, such as sockets, symbolic links, and pipes.
[15:25] <mattan> @soundraysry thats right but not any /media/ ( hda 3 or 4)
[15:25] <Lamego> !hardy | Templer
[15:25] <ubotu> Templer: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:26] <Radit> LjL, thx alot.. but can you explain what this command does: "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[15:26] <soundray> genii: the Wikipedia article is good
[15:26] <Templer> the beta version?
[15:26] <genii> CJS3141: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[15:26] <soundray> mattan: so what happens when you enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt' ?
[15:26] <Lamego> Templer, ask on #ubuntu+1, for hardy
[15:26] <Templer> cheers
[15:27] <pajamian> Radit: that command installs the medibuntu repository.
[15:27] <genii> soundray: I think my prob was the typo of !hfs and not !fhs   ;)
[15:27] <soundray> genii: ah, I hadn't spotted that
[15:27] <Troofy> how open large compressed file? i made a backup by g4l ghost 4 linux. it uses partimage. i think it was bzip2 2.4gb. Ark gives error while opening those files. any ways to copy a file from the archive?
[15:27] <rico> so how whats planned for HH?
[15:27] <CJS3141> pajamian: Thanks! genii: Thanks much for the link--I'll go read up before I ask any more questions. :-D
[15:28] <LjL> Radit, it downloads the information that describes how the Medibuntu repository is accessed, and puts them into the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list, which APT will access
[15:28] <skillz> hi, i am trying to come up with some statistics from when i collect data using the "ping" command, is there a script that i could use, that would discard all information given in the ouput but leaving the RTT value, and then working out the MEDIAN value of those times? as currently ping only shows, min/max/avg/ and Mean deviation as the output
[15:28] <soundray> rico: read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[15:28] <Lamego> Troofy, partimage produces a largefile, I am not sure you can mount (I guess you wan that, to acces to the backed up files)
[15:28] <Frederick> new problem arises when I evoke netbeans Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch.
[15:29] <mattan> @soundray: It says: mount: /media/hda4 is not a block device
[15:29] <sriramoman> is there any ftp site where i can find all the official ubuntu packages?i am not meaning apt-mirror
[15:29] <Lamego> sriramoman, packages.ubuntu.com
[15:29] <soundray> mattan: you didn't enter  the command that I suggested
[15:29] <Radit> LjL & Panjamian, thanks alot :-D
[15:29] <hischild> sriramoman: enter the link from sources.list in your browser and look around
[15:29] <Troofy> Lamego i already have acces to file. its in a a folder i have but icant open it.
[15:29] <pajamian> skillz: pick the programming language of your choice to write one.  I would probably hack something together in perl in 15 minutes.
[15:29] <soundray> mattan: what happens when you enter 'sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt' ?
[15:30] <Lamego> Troofy, I am not sure about the partimages file format, but probably you will need to restore them into a real partiion or file, to access it's files
[15:30] <Lamego> man partimage
[15:30] <sipior> Frederick: you may simply have to tell the system to use the sun jdk. try "update-alternatives --list java" and see what's there
[15:30] <Troofy> Lamego its bzip2
[15:30] <skillz> pajamian: is there not somethign easier to write it in awk or something like that? i have collected all the data and saved them to files, now i just want to do something quick
[15:30] <mattan> @soundray: I tipped in"sudo mount /media/hda4 /mnt"
[15:30] <Frederick> sipior: already done
[15:30] <hischild> skillz: perhaps use cut? and then grep?
[15:31] <amenado> Frederick-> does netbeans depends on a $JAVA_HOME env var?
[15:31] <soundray> mattan: why did you type that, and not what I asked you to type?
[15:31] <skillz> hischild: what does grep do?
[15:31] <Frederick> amenado: maybe wgere should I place it?
[15:31] <hischild> skillz: man grep
[15:31] <pajamian> skillz: depends on what language you know.  Like I said, I would do it in perl because (1) that's what I know, and (2) I could probably hack together a single command line that would parse and read the listed files and dump the output.
[15:31] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/p/ktkaZF71.html
[15:31] <Blinny> What is a good wireless PCMCIA card that 'just works' without using ndiswrapper?
[15:31] <sipior> Frederick: and if you use the --jdkhome switch?
[15:31] <Lamego> Troofy, it doesn't matter if it's compressed or not, if you uncompress it, it still uses the partimage format
[15:32] <amenado> Frederick-> its an environment variable, you export it to your shell
[15:32] <hischild> skillz: has the ability to use expressions to cut the output in smaller pieces so you're just left with the numbers.
[15:32] <Troofy> Lamego hm
[15:32] <skillz> pajamian: i would be very greatfull if you could help me with this line of perl :)
[15:32] <Troofy> Lamego so what should i do
[15:32] <genii> Blinny: My D-Link dwl-g630 works great, Atheros chipset
[15:32] <pajamian> skillz: pm me, then.
[15:33] <Brun> hi people..
[15:33] <Lamego> Troofy, you restore it, using partimage
[15:33] <Frederick> export $JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java failed
[15:33] <Brun> who use DTC ?
[15:33] <rico> btw, when do they plan to put the trash on the desktop so u can delete the files in the trash easily? I heard that u have to use terminal to empty it, or has this been fixed?
[15:33] <skillz> pajmain: done :)
[15:33] <igormorgado> i have notice that mouse acceleration control has problems, when I try to tune it, it drops to left and my mouse stay too slow. No matter how I try to move the slide bar to right it come back to left. I have to xset m 2 to make my pointer usable. Any ideas?
[15:33] <Blinny> genii: Does that need madwifii anything special? Or can I just use the networkmanager in Gutsy?
[15:33] <frostburn> What's a good text editor to use?  I've been using jedit for years, but thought there might be something else that I've not tried before.
[15:33] <hischild> Blinny: you can just use the network manager in gutsy.
[15:33] <sipior> Frederick: leave out the "$"
[15:33] <pajamian> skillz: you need to register with nickserv in order to pm, sorry.
[15:34] <amenado> Frederick-> remove the $ if on the left hand side of  =
[15:34] <Lamego> frostburn, gedit
[15:34] <Blinny> hischild/genii: Yous is the rockstars. Cheers.
[15:34] <pajamian> skillz: join #pajamian_skillz
[15:34] <genii> Blinny: No madwifi or anything. Works out of the box with default network manager
[15:34] <soundray> rico: the trash is in the bottom panel on the right. You can empty it easily with a right click and choosing the Empty... option
[15:34] <Blinny> Grassy ass.
[15:34] <skillz> join #pajamian_skillz
[15:34] <mattan> @soundray I have read itwrong but this device does not exist or is busy(sudo mount/dev/hda4 /mnt)
[15:34] <Troofy> Lamego no other way?
[15:34] <Lamego> Troofy, no
[15:34] <Pici> Blinny: excuse me?
[15:34] <Pici> !language | Blinny
[15:34] <ubotu> Blinny: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:35] <frostburn> Lamego, i to do a visual diff between two docs, unfortunately, gedit doesn't do that very well.
[15:35] <Blinny> pici: Apologies. Gracias.
[15:35] <Frederick>  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java"
[15:35] <Frederick> imanewbie@isengard:~$ netbeans
[15:35] <Frederick> Cannot find java. Please use the --jdkhome switch.
[15:35] <Frederick> sorry for flooding
[15:35] <FloodBot1> Frederick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <pajamian> skillz: you left out the /
[15:35] <amenado> mattan space needed between mount and /dev/hda4
[15:35] <sipior> Frederick: and if you supply the --jdkhome switch?
[15:35] <soundray> mattan: I am not prepared to help you unless you do exactly what I ask of you. The way it's currently going, you are wasting both our time.
[15:35] <erUSUL> Frederick:  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/  ???
[15:35] <erUSUL> Frederick:  export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/"  ???
[15:36] <Frederick> erUSUL: what is werong?
[15:36] <Lamego> frostburn, why not ? you just need to open 2 windows
[15:36] <tafs> Hi, I`m having a problem with my wireless - it does not work on boot, but it works after "ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0". Any ideas about how I can make it successfully connect the first time?
[15:36] <amenado> Frederick-> its the bin directory for JAVA_HOME not the executable java itself
[15:36] <erUSUL> Frederick: i think that java home is the top level directory of java install not the full path to the java binary
[15:37] <frostburn> Lamego, it doesn't compare every line at the same time, it's easy to miss something
[15:37] <Troofy> Lamego ok
[15:37] <erUSUL> Frederick: oh well what amenado says ;)
[15:37] <Troofy> Lamego thx
[15:37] <mattan> Sry There was one in my terminal
[15:37] <Webu_> !java
[15:37] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:39] <soundray> mattan: run 'sudo fdisk -l' and put the output on the pastebin please
[15:39]  * FooTaGe ( NoNameScript 4.2 :: by greeny & mute :: www.nnscript.com :: www.regroup-esports.com )
[15:40] <Frederick> seems to be okay now
[15:40] <Frederick> howdo I set this ariable globaly?
[15:40] <Lamego> Frederick, set it on your $HOME/.bashrc
[15:41] <Frederick> I mean export JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/" is it oki?
[15:41] <soundray> Frederick: or put it in /etc/environment (for all users and environments)
[15:41] <mattan> sry there is no output
[15:42] <Frederick> soundray: in the envioment I put the variable not theexport command right?
[15:42] <soundray> mattan: there will be if you do it correctly
[15:42] <Andycasss> how to search for a file in terminal
[15:42] <soundray> Frederick: yes
[15:42] <soundray> Andycasss: locate file
[15:42] <Frederick> thanks brothers thanks a lot
[15:42] <rhineheart_m> what is wrong if I cannot accept mails from yahoo.com? I am using courier imap to fetch mail
[15:42] <mattan> with out sudo
[15:42] <Frederick> rhineheart_m: openrelay?
[15:43] <Andycasss> soundray: how to make it search in whole filesys?
[15:43] <soundray> Andycasss: it does
[15:43] <rhineheart_m> Frederick, openrelay? what do you mean with that? actually I am trying to remember what ports I used in setting up pop3 and imap.. can anybody help me how to do it?
[15:43] <Andycasss> soundray: well, how to update it then? Because it cant see that dir i have it in
[15:44] <LjL> !away > FooTaGe^Away    (FooTaGe^Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:44] <Frederick> rhineheart_m: never mind aboutwhat ive said
[15:44] <Frederick> sorry
[15:44] <soundray> Andycasss: it searches all filesystems that were mounted the last time 'updatedb' was run
[15:44] <mattan> there is only my memory stick
[15:44] <soundray> Andycasss: so 'sudo updatedb'
[15:44] <_julian__> hi all
[15:45] <soundray> Andycasss: you can use 'find' if you need a tool that searches directly (rather than relying on an index)
[15:45] <maimster> Hi everyone.
[15:45] <_julian__> I create a udev rule (/etc/udev/rules.d/10-persistent-touch.rules) which looks like this:
[15:45] <_julian__> BUS=="USB", KERNEL=="event[0-9]*", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0eef", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0001", SYMLINK="input/touchpanel"
[15:45] <soundray> Andycasss: 'find /directory -name filename.txt'
[15:45] <_julian__> lsusb lists:
[15:45] <_julian__> Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0eef:0001 D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen
[15:45] <_julian__> but no input/touchpanel is created
[15:45] <_julian__> a input/event* device for it exists...
[15:45] <_julian__> any ideas, what is wrong with my rule?
[15:46] <Andycasss> soundray: thanks, ill use find
[15:46] <mattan> now I not allowed to put anything on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[15:46] <erUSUL> _julian__: maybe you can use udevmonitor to find out the problem
[15:47] <_julian__> erUSUL: I can't plug/unplug the touchscreen as it is wired internally
[15:48] <mattan> I made it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62118/
[15:48] <suxxor> i`ve installed vmware but it ask me serial key to start the virtual machine
[15:48] <suxxor> somebody to help me?
[15:49] <erUSUL> _julian__: :|
[15:49] <sipior> suxxor: contact vmware to get a key?
[15:49] <nonix4> Hmm, kvm bug: issuing shutdown results in exception 13, killing (usb) mouse until you replug it
[15:49] <suxxor> no
[15:49] <Pici> suxxor: no?
[15:49] <suxxor> yes
[15:49] <tayloreffect> yes?
[15:49] <suxxor> how to contact to get key
[15:50] <Pici> suxxor: I'd start at http://www.vmware.com
[15:51] <Lamego> suxxor, you can get a key from the vmware site
[15:51] <hischild> pici may i ask you in a pm what your relation to Ubuntu is?
[15:51] <Pici> hischild: sure
[15:51] <soundray> mattan: do you have more than one harddisk?
[15:51] <ice_cream> ah, finally upgraded =P
[15:51] <ice_cream> there was some sort of bug when i tried to upgrade while in X
[15:51] <suxxor> fuck aye i`ll probably get it ^^
[15:52] <Pici> !language | suxxor
[15:52] <ubotu> suxxor: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:52] <baua> is there a way to use autologin and keyring-auto-unlocking together?
[15:52] <mattan> no I have 1 Hardisk but sda is my memorystick (so my hdd cannot be dead)
[15:52] <suxxor> 10x
[15:53] <sipior> baua: possibly, but the consequences could be pretty awful
[15:54] <baua> sipior: which one?
[15:54] <soundray> mattan: any output from 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[15:54] <soundray> ?
[15:54] <artworx> i'm having trouble with the nvidia driver, modprobe gives me FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[15:54] <pirate_Hunter> hi whats the command to check usb stick?
[15:54] <_julian__> erUSUL: it just came to my mind that reloading the module would have the same effect as replugging. here is the udevmonitor output:http://paste.biz/paste-3058.html
[15:54] <rico> is there a way i can change the login menue to look cooler? (I know how to choose another login menue, but would like something different)
[15:54] <bofphile> Hi guys, I have a little problem regarding my external soundcard
[15:55] <sirblue> oi, can't print several pages onto 1 sheet, printer ist brother hl 16xx, any ideas?
[15:55] <Jessica> how do i change grub boot menu i want to do it through the GUI
[15:55] <Lamego> Jessica, installl startupmanager
[15:55] <sipior> baua: well, if i understand you correctly, what you want to do is allow anyone who can get a hold of your machine for a few minutes to log onto each and every computer you have configured for RSA authentication.
[15:56] <mattan> @soundray:  with sudo no, but without sudo "Cannot open /dev/hda"
[15:56] <sipior> baua: along with any other passwords you may keep in the ring...
[15:56] <Jessica> ok thanks
[15:56] <pirate_Hunter> Lamego: do you know the command to check usb stick, I wnat to know if it is sda1 etc?
[15:56] <hischild> pirate_Hunter: if you've plugged it in, type dmesg. On the bottom it'll show what it is.
[15:56] <Lamego> pirate_Hunter, dmesg, when you plug the device, it reports the connected device name
[15:57] <pirate_Hunter> Lamego, hischild: thanx
[15:57] <baua> sipior: exactly, but thats fine ... its just a kind of a kiosk mode laptop without sensible data in a privat network
[15:57] <bofphile> I have an E-MU 0202 USB soundcard and I need to apply a patch to alsa-driver to make it work. The problem is I don't know how to apply a patch
[15:57] <sipior> sirblue: using enscript or psnup?
[15:57] <baua> sipior: so what is the solution?
[15:57] <sipior> baua: don't know, never tried it.
[15:57] <sirblue> sipior: how do i tell?
[15:58] <mattan> @soundray what are the rigts (adduser for using my hda)
[15:58] <rwycuff> johannix:any more luck with sound card
[15:58] <sipior> sirblue: well, how were you sending the data to the printer?
[15:58] <AVFC1> Anyone able to help me with disc partitioning? I tried to do it as described in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfl3oViny8 (about 1 minute into vid) but it wont let me change the size of the windows partition.
[15:58] <AVFC1> http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/partitioning943.png thats what I see
[15:58] <mattan> I think that have it to be because I get them as root
[15:58] <soundray> mattan: it's not a privilege issue
[15:58] <sirblue> sipior: press print in openoffice for example... sry dude
[15:59] <erUSUL> _julian__: see "less /etc/udev/rules.d/README" your rule should be 60-whatever not 10-whatever can this be the problem ??
[15:59] <erUSUL> _julian__: i do not see anything on the udevmonitor output...
[15:59] <pirate_Hunter> hischild, Lamego: that gave me a lot of info but i still dont know where my usb is plugged in, could you suggest something... what am I suposed to look for?
[15:59] <soundray> mattan: if fdisk -l doesn't output your partition table, then probably there isn't one. Is this a Mac?
[15:59] <sipior> sirblue: and it prints single pages fine? 2-up and the like don't print at all?
[15:59] <_julian__> erUSUL: just read that too, changed it, let's see....
[16:00] <hischild> pirate_Hunter: unplug, count to 5, plug back in, type dmesg. It'll show something with sda, sdb, or something along those lines.
[16:00] <sirblue> sipior: yeah, whats 2-up by the way?
[16:00] <mattan> @soundray:no not a mac, but hda is there under root
[16:00] <sipior> sirblue: 2 pages per physical page
[16:01] <sirblue> sipior: yeah, what did i say? just want to save paper...
[16:01] <soundray> mattan: do a 'sudo fdisk /dev/hda' and enter 'p'
[16:01] <xukun> I have an external usb disk mounted on /dev/sdb1 on /media/Lacie but when I do cd ls it No such file or directory. I have no clue why this is happening now
[16:01] <CVD-PR> Any know when the RC ubuntu 8 gonna came out?
[16:01] <xukun> cd or ls
[16:02] <rwycuff> xukun: what format is this drive in
[16:02] <hischild> CVD-PR: it's been told before. The days are counted on the main Ubuntu website.
[16:02] <incorrect> i have a bash script on a remote server, can i do something like curl ftp://script.sh | bash ?
[16:02] <soundray> mattan: any error messages?
[16:02] <xukun> rwycuff, it is ntfs. It always worked before
[16:02] <sirblue> sipior: thx so far, dentist calls, gotta go!
[16:02] <sipior> sirblue: hmm...not sure how openoffice goes about printing. it's possible that it simply isn't supported with your printer driver. you might try getting openoffice to output postscript files, which you could then format and print with psnup
[16:03] <sipior> well, now we'll know whether setting up printing in ubuntu is easier than pulling teeth
[16:04] <mattan> @soundray xxxxxxx is not a sudoers file...
[16:04] <Radit> how do i see a running process in ubuntu & terminate it?
[16:04] <c0ldfusion> Radit, man ps and kill
[16:04] <Lamego> Radit, ps and kill
[16:04] <xukun> rwycuff, any idea?
[16:05] <soundray> mattan: so the issue is that you can't use sudo?
[16:05] <rwycuff> did you mount it via the command line or is it super mounting
[16:05] <rwycuff> xukun:
[16:05] <Scunizi> how do I run a perl script that's named  <prog_name.pl>
[16:05] <Lamego> sculework, perl -e file.pl
[16:05] <xukun> rwycuff, it mount automatic when I plug in
[16:05] <Scunizi> thanks
[16:05] <rwycuff> scunizi : perl -e *.pl
[16:05] <_julian__> erUSUL: did not help,...
[16:05] <shArk> hi
[16:06] <Scunizi> rwycuff, thanks.. got Lamego with the wrong nick..
[16:06] <mattan> may be
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do i make a join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <Radit> i used ps command, but could'nt find a program name eg. gimp..
[16:06] <rico> got Automatix helps so much
[16:06] <rico> god*
[16:06] <mattan> but my user is in sudo
[16:06] <shArk> how do i change the dynamically set title pls ?
[16:06] <hischild> !automatix | rico
[16:06] <ubotu> rico: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:06] <soundray> mattan: does 'sudo ls' give you the same error?
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do i make a join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <rwycuff> xukun: try unmounting it from the commant line and then do mount -t ntfs on it and see if that fixes it
[16:06] <ryrules1> how do join a diffrent irc sever
[16:06] <amenado> Radit-> ps aux | grep gimp
[16:06] <AVFC1> try /s irc.servername.com/net and /attach
[16:06] <Lamego> ryrules1, /server server_name
[16:07] <AVFC1> Anyone able to help me with disc partitioning? I tried to do it as described in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfl3oViny8 (about 1 minute into vid) but it wont let me change the size of the windows partition.
[16:07] <ryrules1> kk thanks you
[16:07] <rwycuff> amenado : /join then irc channel
[16:07] <c0ldfusion> AVFC1, what partition editor are you using
[16:07] <Radit> amenado, what do i do next?
[16:07] <AVFC1> the one on the system>administration
[16:08] <AVFC1> GParted
[16:08] <shArk> any1 ? pls .. how do i change the dynamically set title in gnome-terminal ?
[16:08] <Lamego> AVFC1, are you using the live cd ?
[16:08] <amenado> Radit was the pid of gimp found? what do you want to do?
[16:08] <erUSUL> _julian__: :(
[16:08] <AVFC1> Lamego: yes http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/partitioning943.png thats what i see btw.
[16:08] <mattan> no now error but no output either
[16:08] <_julian__> erUSUL: ah got it - removing BUS=="USB" did the trick
[16:09] <Radit> amenado is it the 4 digit number?
[16:09] <xukun> rwycuff, then it works just file
[16:09] <Lamego> do you get any error when you try to resize ?
[16:09] <soundray> mattan: what have you done that could have wrecked sudo?
[16:09] <Radit> I want to close it
[16:09] <amenado> shArk-> man gnome-terminal and look at the -title option
[16:10] <rwycuff> xukun:so is it working after that ??
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, yes
[16:10] <amenado> Radit  ps aux| head and you should see the headings
[16:10] <mattan> @soundray I do not now
[16:10] <pajamian> AVFC1: find the open nautilus window on your desktop with the partition open in it and close it and unmount the partition.
[16:10] <rwycuff> xukun:awsome
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, very strange
[16:10] <Melch> anyone know good note taking programs?
[16:10] <ice_cream> oo someone wrecked sudo?
[16:10] <shArk> amenado: --title=TITLE.. i know.. but when i put PS1= there it doesn't work
[16:10]  * ice_cream tunes in
[16:10] <goodhabit> Hello. Advice me please software for dvd video creation from avi, mpg and other media files. i have tryed devede, but it is ignoring media size options. Also if somebody knows tell me please how to make widescreen bootsplash, cuz it looks stretched. Thanks you.
[16:10] <sipior> Melch: tomboy is pretty cool
[16:10] <xukun> rwycuff, so there is something wrong with the auto mount
[16:10] <Lamego> Melch, try tomboy, add/remove programs
[16:11] <amenado> shArk-> what is PS1 ?  is it defined?
[16:11] <mconrado> ola
[16:11] <c0ldfusion> AVFC1, or you can use gparted livecd; take your pick.
[16:11] <Melch> all that is post its
[16:11] <rwycuff> xukun: it might be that supermount or what ever app is doing it in linux any more isnt running on the proper lvl
[16:11] <Melch> i'm looking for something like endnote
[16:11] <sipior> Melch: *slightly* more than that
[16:11] <noob-africa> goodhabit: have u tried LiVES (Linux Video Editing Software)... google LiVES
[16:11] <Melch> i use basket
[16:11] <xukun> rwycuff, thanks a lot for your help m8
[16:12] <mattan> @soundray: under root sudo is working
[16:12] <Melch> but i was wondering if there is anything more
[16:12] <pajamian> melanarchy: have you tried Tomboy Notes?
[16:12] <AVFC1> thanks c0ldfusion
[16:12] <pajamian> errr Melch
[16:12] <lorenz> hi guys, I was wondering what codecs I need for proper divx playback? the ones I got now show a grainy pic in fullscreen
[16:12] <mypapipu> hi all
[16:12] <stig__> hi ...
[16:12] <Melch> lorenz are u sure it's not the quality of the video?
[16:12] <sipior> lorenz: sure it's not the source material?
[16:13] <lorenz> I'm sure it's not the source material, yes
[16:13] <mypapipu> anyone ever install kannel in ubuntu GG ?
[16:13] <Melch> what is your full screen rez
[16:13] <stig__> I have a serious problem with my linux box.
[16:13] <ice_cream> mattan, in sudoers, do you have the Defaults line, then the root line, then the user line?
[16:13] <tactikalnuke> sipior: are you familiar with xargs yourself?
[16:13] <lorenz> 1024*768
[16:14] <sipior> tactikalnuke: depends on the day
[16:14] <stig__> Short version is, that cp a b gives different md5sums - a is an iso file ...
[16:14] <tactikalnuke> sipior: i try using simple <find . -iname '*nude*' | xargs ln -s --target-directory=./NSFW>
[16:14] <rwycuff> xukun:no problem linux community suppose to be about help
[16:14] <lorenz> I had proper playback with feisty, installed an awful lot and it worked fined. now I am on hardy, and it's grainy
[16:14] <stig__> Can anyone help me diagnose the problem
[16:14] <suxxor> i`ve find serial number for vmware but i don`t know how to enter it when click in program "Enter serial number ... " it shows me "You do not have permission to enter a serial number. Please try again using the system administrator account."
[16:14] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but end up getting "ln: creating symbolic link `./NSFW/NudeOne1600x1200.jpg': Operation not permitted"
[16:14] <Radit> amenado, i can't see gimp when i run "ps aux | head" but i'ts running
[16:15] <shArk> amenado: PS1 is the line from .bashrc (i dont know how to tell :p)
[16:15] <sipior> tactikalnuke: do you have permission to write in that directory?
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> suxxor: from terminal type <gksudo PROGRAM-NAME>
[16:15] <lorenz> is there a codec pack up somewhere that I could try?
[16:15] <yahuuu> hello there
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> suxxor: that will run it in su mode
[16:15] <soundray> mattan: sorry, I have to log off. Will be around later
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> sipior: yes
[16:15] <AVFC1> I unmounted the windows partition, but it barely lets me re size it (there's 30Gb+ of free space on it :S) http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/wtf918.png
[16:15] <tactikalnuke> sipior: its a directory i've created and files I've put into the other folders
[16:15] <amenado> Radit-> i only gave you   "ps aux | head " for you to see which column is the pid,  the previous ps aux | grep gimp should have identified it
[16:15] <pajamian> lorenz: there is w32codecs in the medibuntu repository.
[16:16] <amenado> shArk-> you meant the user prompt?  its $PS1  not PS1
[16:16] <mattan> @icecream : I do not get it
[16:16] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my machine but after click the first option (install ubuntu) my computer screen turned black and nothing happen after that.... any suggestion? can i copy the whole CD and install it from DOS prompt?
[16:16] <sipior> tactikalnuke: try echoing a filename to the xargs command (leaving out find for the nonce)
[16:16] <mattan> @soundray hope to see you again
[16:17] <pajamian> yahuuu: try the alternate install CD
[16:18] <yahuuu> pajamian: can u guide me abt this? ia m newbi
[16:18] <pajamian> !alternate | yahuuu
[16:18] <ubotu> yahuuu: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[16:19] <shArk> amenado: $ gnome-terminal --title=$PS1='\u@\h\: \w' results in Invalid argument: "\w]$"
[16:19] <yahuuu> ok
[16:19] <ph8> If i make a change to sysctl.conf (and sysctl -w my.directive=2) - does it apply straight away? or do i have to reboot?
[16:19] <Radit> amenado, i can't kill it, is there a force option?
[16:19] <sipior> ph8: should take effect when you run sysctl
[16:19] <ph8> cool ta
[16:19] <ccooke> ph8: sysctl.conf is loaded at boot time, but the sysctl command makes changes to the running kernel
[16:20] <mattan> @ice_cream I have not get it where it should be
[16:20] <pajamian> ok, I'm heading off.  Goddnight everyone
[16:22] <William__> hello
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: figured it out...for some reason, everything on drive defaults to owner of  username:root
[16:23] <William__> who got problem when upgrade kernel 2.6.24-14 ?
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but only on external USB device....???
[16:23] <sipior> tactikalnuke: huh. yeah, that'll do it :)
[16:23] <genii> William__: #ubuntu
[16:23] <Frogzoo> tactikalnuke: sounds like a fat filesystem??
[16:23] <genii> William__: #ubuntu+1    rather
[16:23] <erUSUL> !hardy | William__
[16:23] <ubotu> William__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> sipior: it's fat32
[16:23] <tactikalnuke> Frogzoo: yeah...you got it
[16:24] <Frogzoo> tactikalnuke: that's how it works, fat doesn't understand users
[16:24] <simplexio> William__: isnt latest  <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:24]  * tactikalnuke slaps tactikalnuke
[16:24]  * sipior does not condone self-abuse
[16:24] <tactikalnuke> sipior: it's ok...it was with a trout
[16:25] <tactikalnuke> LOL
[16:25] <sarcher> C`/j #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <MrObvious> Is Hardy out considering it's April?
[16:25] <tactikalnuke> MrObvious: Soon... :)
[16:25] <Lamego> MrObvious, ask on #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <redman> hi!
[16:25] <MrObvious> Gaa I don't wanna join another channel. lol
[16:26] <tactikalnuke> MrObvious: 20 days
[16:26] <redman> Are you all people from the states
[16:26] <amenado> shArk-> you are trying to set an environment variable with single quotes? maybe you try to use double quotes ?
[16:26] <toomppa> im not :P
[16:26] <tactikalnuke> redman: yes...Rochester, NY
[16:26] <erUSUL> redman: no try #ubuntu-us
[16:26] <rico> I'm from Australia
[16:26] <MrObvious> I think I am ready to go back to Ubuntu after trying Vista. I had to work with it for a bit because I needed to know how to support it so I can better help people.
[16:26] <sipior> redman: the United States of Mexico?
[16:26] <amenado> Radit try  killall gimp
[16:26] <MrObvious> <-Kansas
[16:26] <rwycuff> MrObvious: Vista has that effect
[16:26] <toomppa> <- finland :p
[16:26] <rico> lol, im the only aussie here by the looks of it lol
[16:26] <frostburn> 24th
[16:27] <frostburn> tactikalnuke, from there too
[16:27] <ice_cream> mattan, ?  i just thought you had  problem with your sudoers file and unable to use sudo, no?
[16:27] <MrObvious> Maybe with SP2 Vista will be better. I don't know
[16:27] <MrObvious> .
[16:27] <redman> i'm in Germany but I'm not german
[16:27] <snailstorm> Hello, i have a small question: Im tryingto use the Emerald Theme Manager with Compiz fusion, but somehow it doesnt change "windows decorations" to emerald, still stuck with the old theme, how to change?
[16:27] <MrObvious> I am just not that impressed at all.
[16:27] <yahuuu> i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on my machine but after click the first option (install ubuntu) my computer screen turned black and nothing happen after that.... any suggestion?
[16:27] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Does your computer still seem to respond?
[16:27] <yahuuu> and 3 months back i use the same CD and same machine to install ubuntu and it was so easy but now i am facing problems
[16:28] <William__> i am ni angola
[16:28] <mlo> Can someone tell me if the latest Ubuntu beta supports the ATI HD 3850 out of the box, or would I have to experiment with drivers from Ati/Amd's website?
[16:28] <mattan> @ice_cream but you spoke about a file: but where is it
[16:28] <yahuuu> MrObvious: what do u meanby respond?
[16:28] <MrObvious> yahuuu: The quick fix is to try the Alternate CD or reburn the CD again really really slow (2-4x).
[16:28] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Number Lock lights are a good indication.
[16:28] <Lamego> !hardy | mlo
[16:28] <ubotu> mlo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:28] <redman> you people are using the ubuntu server to receive your mail?
[16:28] <erUSUL> mlo: better ask in #ubuntu+1 where beta is discussed
[16:28] <William__> how can i change the virtualbox network status to Bridge,not NAT?????
[16:28] <MrObvious> redman: I use Thunderbird and GMail through IMAP. :)
[16:29] <shArk> amenado: the same..
[16:29] <yahuuu> i have the iso image without alternate CD, can i download alternate CD image seperatly ? and then i can combine them and burn a CD
[16:29] <MrObvious> yahuuu: No. They have to be seperate discs.
[16:29] <redman> are some hackers here?
[16:29] <Lamego> yahuuu, uh combine ? you can't combine isos
[16:29] <norritt> someone knows how to generate a new sll cert chainfile?
[16:29] <yahuuu> MrObvious: num locks lights are enable
[16:29] <MrObvious> redman: What are you asking for?
[16:29] <yahuuu> ohhh
[16:30] <shArk> amenado: is it ok that there are 2 equality symbols ? --title= and then PS1= ?
[16:30] <Helix82> DoDo, not able to send to you
[16:30] <redman> obvious i wanted to know if someone is a hacker
[16:30] <mattan> @ice_cream whatshould be wrong with it
[16:30] <norritt> lol
[16:30] <MrObvious> mlo: I'd imagine it will work but won't have any of the enhanced graphics support. I think AMD has some drivers but they aren't as good as NVidia's still sadly.
[16:30] <sipior> redman: that's a rather loaded question
[16:30] <yahuuu> but what is the problem with my computer, i was able to install ubuntu without alternate CD :(
[16:30] <MrObvious> mlo: But you gotta give props to AMD. The drivers are slowly getting better.
[16:30] <yahuuu> i am just worried why its not installing
[16:30] <redman> spirior: what do you mean with that
[16:31] <MrObvious> yahuuu: Maybe the disc went bad.
[16:31] <CVD-PR> any difference between normal and alternate apart of the live?
[16:31] <Lamego> CVD-PR, no
[16:31] <yahuuu> MrObvious: i have 4 disks and i cheke all of them on my laptop and it works well there,
[16:31] <Lamego> well, the installet
[16:31] <MrObvious> CVD-PR: One is text, the other is GUI. The text is great for people who don't quite have compatible hardware when installing Ubuntu.
[16:31] <suxxor> help help trying to run the virtual machine it shows me the next error "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error:
[16:31] <MrObvious> I think.
[16:31] <suxxor> End of error message."
[16:31] <mlo> Thank you, I keep trying Ubuntu out on each major release, I usually have problems with ATI's poor drivers.  I loved to switch completely.
[16:31] <AVFC1> Anybody know why i can barely resize my XP partition even though there is 30Gb+ off free space http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08145/wtf918.png http://xs126.xs.to/xs126/08145/errors816.png (I'm on Live CD hoping to install)
[16:32] <redman> see you then
[16:32] <suxxor> somebody to help me
[16:32] <yahuuu> MrObvious: tell me, do i need to format the disk or ubuntu will format it by itself? if i get luky to reach to install ubuntu desktop
[16:32] <AtomicMongoose> NTFS does have this habbit of writtin all sorts of places,  try a defrag?
[16:33] <MrObvious> yahuuu: You have to format it somehow. Ubuntu has a formatter built in.
[16:33] <ice_cream> mattan, the sudoers file?  it's in /etc/sudoers ; you can see what's inside as root by typing   cat /etc/sudoers
[16:33] <Lamego> AVFC1, have you run chkdsk /f from windows ?
[16:33] <MrObvious> lol
[16:33] <bigb> hi, i have this problem... i deleted sda6(fat32-6gb) with gparted and used that space to resize sda5(ext3-6gb), but now df says sda5 is 6gb instead 12gb
[16:33] <rico> any1 know when HH will be released, it says April 08 and its now April, any idea on what day? (a)
[16:33] <AVFC1> no... How would I do that Lamego? in cmd?
[16:33] <Lamego> AVFC1, yes, on windows, as described on the errot text
[16:34] <suxxor> help how to make the vmware run
[16:34] <DJones> rico, about another 20 days
[16:34] <owen1> how to get updates from terminal?
[16:34] <rico> cool :D
[16:34] <ice_cream> i'm just multitasking atm, sry for long answer delays
[16:34] <yahuuu> MrObvious: but i cant reach the ubuntu desktop to install it
[16:34] <Lamego> owen1, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:34] <owen1> Lamego: thanks
[16:34] <yahuuu> i will kick my computer
[16:34] <yahuuu> lol
[16:34] <AVFC1> oh damn i see it now >.<
[16:34] <incorrect> is there a scriptable way to clean out a disks partition table?
[16:34]  * AVFC1 goes back onto windows
[16:34] <MrObvious> yahuuu: I don't know. It's been a while since I've actually installed Ubuntu.
[16:35] <mattan> @icecream what is wrong with it
[16:35] <mlo> Is there any reason not to install the 64bit version of Ubuntu?  On Vista/XP 64bit there are quite a few incompatibilities with drivers/software, is this the case with Ubuntu.
[16:35] <Lamego> incorrect, dd
[16:35] <Randomtime> !64 bit
[16:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:35] <yahuuu> MrObvious: can i copy the whole CD into the HDD, is there any chance to install ubuntu from DOS prompe?
[16:35] <yahuuu> prompt*
[16:35] <Lamego> yahuuu, no
[16:35] <yahuuu> ahhhh :(
[16:35] <tayloreffect> If rTorrent was a woman... I would buy it a steak dinner.
[16:35] <Lamego> and it would improve your problem
[16:35] <sipior> incorrect: you could use sfdisk to read out, modify, and then read in a partition table
[16:36] <yahuuu> Lamego: so no soulution of my problem ?
[16:36] <simplexio> mlo: two reason java and flash plugins for browsers
[16:36] <ice_cream> mattan, did you have a problem w/ sudo or not; if you didnt, no need to change anything
[16:36] <compwiz18> mlo: if you need to use the Java web plugin, and you are in love with Flash (which works, but sometimes crashes), then go with 32, otherwise, 64 :)
[16:36] <Lamego> yahuuu, have you tried using the alternate disk ?
[16:36] <_elemental> hmm, I need to have libmysqlclient.so.14 for an app for work, ubunutu repos only have .15, anyone know how I can get .14 installed?
[16:37] <bofphile> What command line should I type to apply a patch ( usbaudio.c) to alsa-driver before compiling, please ?
[16:37] <lore20> _elemental: download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <simplexio> mlo: and far as i know flash problem can be solved, but no java.
[16:37] <yahuuu> Lamego: i used to install live cd on the same machine and it works perfectly, why should i use alternate cd then
[16:37] <arvind_khadri> hi would enabling universe for 7.10 have an adverse affect in 7.04???
[16:37] <BrainBug> hello, i want to install Xubuntu on my old pc, main purpose is server , so i would download Dapper Drake, then i saw "alternate cd install" ... my question, what is this alternate cd? is this just without a theme or something that only install base...
[16:37] <Lamego> yahuuu, because the X server is failing to start on your machine, as per your description
[16:38] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: You could just do an upgrade to 7.10....
[16:38] <mattan> @ice_cream: sorry to say this I really do not know
[16:38] <yahuuu> and besides, 3 days before i had ubunto on my HDD, after updating some updates ubuntu never start again
[16:38] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, yes, you can't use 7.10 packages on 7.04
[16:38] <lore20> BrainBug: I think yes
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> BrainBug, well its totally text and faster than live
[16:38] <nedw> has anyone had any success using a sigma hdtv5 with ubuntu?
[16:38] <BrainBug> then thats what i search ty
[16:38] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, thanks
[16:38] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: You don't even have to lose your data. Just go to the place where you do your updates (Synaptic I think is the name) then push upgrade the OS or whatever it's called.
[16:38] <_elemental> lore20, um, where?  ubuntu repos do not have .14
[16:38] <mattan> @ice_cream we will see I have to go now
[16:38] <BrainBug> bb
[16:38] <ice_cream> ok
[16:38] <mattan> CU
[16:38] <yahuuu> Lamego: so need to download alternate cd ubuntu iso? and then try my luck ?
[16:39] <ice_cream> i only brought up that file because i thought you had a problem with using sudo
[16:39] <Lamego> yahuuu, yes, you should
[16:39] <yahuuu> Lamego : ok thanks :)
[16:39] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, aah 7.10 isnt very stable and the one who uses tat is a Newbie i use 7.10
[16:39] <yahuuu> i hope my problem reslove
[16:39] <peter1138> hi, ubuntu 7.04 64bit livecd fails to boot for me, is 7.10 likely to fare better?
[16:39] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: Well 8.04 should be out soon.
[16:40] <MrObvious> arvind_khadri: Maybe you will fare better with that.
[16:40] <lore20> peter1138: do you have a 64bit arc
[16:40] <lore20> ?
[16:40] <ice_cream> ah, moving on to letter h then? =P
[16:40] <sipior> peter1138: can't hurt to try
[16:40] <peter1138> lore20: yes
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, am waiting for it
[16:40]  * yahuuu starts downloading ubuntu with alternate CD
[16:40] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious,its on 28th i guess
[16:40] <peter1138> it fails in isolinux before actually booting
[16:40] <peter1138> the 32bit version boots fine
[16:40] <ice_cream> i find that i get fewer problems with fewer options
[16:40] <ice_cream> e.g. try booting the server edition, much smaller, etc
[16:41] <pittore> ciao
[16:41] <lore20> peter1138: try the alternate version
[16:41] <lore20> ciao
[16:41] <pittore> !list
[16:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:41] <pharoh> hey,on my desktop, the skydome to be specific,has this line that makes the lower half darker than the upper half.how do i get rid of this?
[16:41] <_elemental> anyone know how I can get libmysqlclient.so.14 installed?
[16:41] <ice_cream> !language | ubotu
[16:41] <ice_cream> lol
[16:41] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:41] <Pici> ice_cream: don't do that.
[16:41] <ice_cream> dont say lol?
[16:41] <lore20> _elemental: you can search in debian repository
[16:42] <sipior> ice_cream: ubotu just got out of therapy. best not to get him talking to himself.
[16:42] <ice_cream> it was just a test =)
[16:42] <Pici> ice_cream: dont play with the bot like that. Theres already enough traffic in here.
[16:42] <MrObvious> Ok guys playing with the bot ain't cool.
[16:42] <MrObvious> At least in here....
[16:42] <tactikalnuke> sipior: alright -- now everything is going as planned...thanks for helping with my stupidity
[16:42] <tactikalnuke> LOL
[16:42] <ice_cream> playing w/ bots is my passison
[16:42] <ice_cream> passion
[16:42] <sipior> tactikalnuke: no worries. glad to help.
[16:42] <peter1138> hmm, is there a debian-like netinst version of the alternate installer?
[16:42] <ice_cream> i had begun writing one in ruby
[16:42] <pharoh> #compiz-fusion
[16:42] <ice_cream> i didnt realize that you'd get jealous, pici =P
[16:43] <lore20> peter1138: no, you should download the alternate
[16:43] <Lamego> peter1138, there is, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:43] <arvind_khadri> hey yeah xchat boots up faster when i use CLI than GUI
[16:44] <_elemental> lore20, don't see them in debian repos either
[16:44] <arvind_khadri> any specific reasons for tat??
[16:45] <Lamego> _elemental, whare are you tring to achieve ? You should no use packages from debian repositories on ubuntu
[16:45] <Lamego> not
[16:45] <arvind_khadri> MrObvious, hey yeah xchat boots up faster when i use CLI than GUI
[16:45] <_elemental> Lamego, I need libmysqlclient.so.14 for an app for work and i can only seem to find .15
[16:45] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, any CLI app boots faster than the GUI version, because of the libraries/resources required for the app
[16:46] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, ohh...thanks
[16:46] <Lamego> _elemental, tha app as compiled with a different mysql version, it is unlikely that it will work
[16:46] <Easy_Rider9999> how can I see  udma mode with ubuntu?
[16:46] <Easy_Rider9999> how can i see udma mode with ubuntu CD
[16:46] <sipior> _elemental: while it's not strictly kosher, you might just make a symlink from .so.14 to point at .so.15
[16:46] <tactikalnuke> sipior: how would I go about executing <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> if the file names have spaces in them????
[16:46] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, are there any CD/DVD burners like nero or so
[16:46] <_elemental> sipior, already tried that, version mismatches abound
[16:47] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, Add/Remove progams, search yourself, there are several options for cd burners
[16:47] <tactikalnuke> arvind_khadri: try out brasero...very nice program
[16:47] <sipior> _elemental: ah well
[16:47] <hischild> arvind_khadri: you can use the default one in nautilus iirc
[16:47] <jrib> sipior: see the examples in 'man find' with the -print0 option
[16:47] <hischild> served me well so far
[16:47] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, or even something with CLI would do
[16:47] <_elemental> Lamego, so I shuld recompile that app against .15 and see if it works?
[16:47] <sipior> jrib: mistell, you're thinking of tactikalnuke, i think
[16:47] <bod_> hey guys, ive been looking at zenity dialog box's hopin to implement them into a loin script of mine, i no that when i click the 'ok' or 'close' button it send an exit status number which kills zenity, how can i use that in an if statement, like   if exitStatus = 1 then cp /file /to/file else rm /file     ??
[16:47] <Lamego> arvind_khadri, google.com, linux cd burn how to
[16:47] <sls> hey, does anyone know what the closes match in Linux is to this software: http://www.dvdfab.com/fab-compare.htm
[16:47] <arvind_khadri> tactikalnuke, sure i would :)
[16:48] <arvind_khadri> Lamego, hey sorry forgot to google....
[16:48] <jrib> tactikalnuke: see the examples in 'man find' with the -print0 option
[16:48] <jrib> sipior: indeed :)
[16:48] <tactikalnuke> jrib: thx
[16:48] <hender> ;
[16:49] <incorrect> i am trying to automate mdadm --create however it keeps asking me to confirm ,  is there anyway to -y this?
[16:50] <sls> anyone:anyone know what the closes match in Linux is to this software: http://www.dvdfab.com/fab-compare.htm
[16:50] <usuario_> luis perez
[16:51] <hischild> sls: look at k3b or search synaptic for it
[16:51] <sipior> incorrect: you could try wrapping it in a shell here document, feed it the input it expects in that fashion
[16:52] <erUSUL> incorrect: use "yes" ??
[16:53] <pharoh> what is API exactly?
[16:53] <genii> application programming interface
[16:54] <pharoh> genii, as in what does it do?
[16:54] <pharoh> genii, what can it be used for?
[16:54] <genii> pharoh: Usually provides some routine you can call from your own program to interact with a particular program
[16:55] <pharoh> genii, oh so like it enables different programs to call each other?
[16:55] <hischild> when i select a location for apt-mirror that isn't on my local drive (but and external one) will it write any data to my local drive?
[16:55] <genii> pharoh: Basically, yes.
[16:55] <sipior> hischild: yes
[16:55] <pharoh> genii, :)
[16:56] <hischild> sipior: uhoh ... can you specify where?
[16:56] <tactikalnuke> jrib: for some reason <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' -type f -print0 | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> is still only making symlinks of each individual word of the acutal pdf...suggestions?
[16:57] <genii> pharoh: Sometimes only a small fraction of the program. Like perhaps maybe just ask it something simple like "who is the user running me right now" or something
[16:58] <sipior> hischild: i may be mistaken, actually. could you show the precise command line you used?
[16:58] <hischild> sipior: sudo apt-mirror
[16:58] <Tomasso> whats the easiest way to get svn working in ubuntu? i wasnt able to get it woring with svnserve :(
[16:59] <hischild> sipior: which is quite simply not useful ... i copied the local skeleton structure to my external drive and then pointed it to make a local repo there
[16:59] <tactikalnuke> for some reason <find /media/storage/Library/.pdf -iname '*Microsoft*' -type f -print0 | xargs ln -s --target-directory=/media/storage/Library/Software/Microsoft> is still only making symlinks of each individual word of the acutal pdf...suggestions?
[17:01] <sipior> tactikalnuke: add a --null to xargs' argument list?
[17:01] <Lasivian> Hiya folks. Where does the Package Manager install applications to?
[17:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: and yes...   ./.pdf is a hidden direcotry
[17:02] <hischild> Lasivian: to whatever location the program needs to be installed
[17:02] <tactikalnuke> sipior: ok...i'll try that
[17:03] <tactikalnuke> sipior: that worked...
[17:03] <sipior> hischild: what did you specify as the base-path for the mirror?
[17:03] <tactikalnuke> sipior: i don't think that using a symlink to a hidden file works though
[17:04] <tactikalnuke> sipior: but ty...that did exactly what I needed it to do
[17:04] <hischild> sipior: the external drive it's creating the repo at
[17:04] <sipior> hischild: then i think you should be fine
[17:05] <sipior> hischild: did it not work?
[17:05] <hischild> sipior: thanks, a good comfort :-) it's working so far (about 20 from 40gb done so far) but i'm worried that it might decide to go awol on me and so something weird
[17:06] <own1x> good day, I have ubuntu 6.06 2.6.15-51-server installed on two machines, but cannot get IPVS to work because it says it's not built into the kernel, anyone have an idea how to compile IPVS support into the kernel?
[17:06] <hischild> *do
[17:06] <Pelo> own1x, sudo apt-get install ipvsadm , possibly
[17:07] <high-freq> hello
[17:07] <Pelo> !hi | high-freq
[17:07] <ubotu> high-freq: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:07] <own1x> so it is installed, ok thank you Pelo
[17:07] <TiTAnIuM_Frustat> salut la foire
[17:08] <Pelo> own1x, installed not necessaraly working
[17:08] <Pelo> salut TiTAnIuM_Frustat , ici c'est le canal en anglais,  pour le canal en francais  tape  /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <hti_pr1> hey guys havin trouble with dma and the libata driver.  I think it is related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636 but the only info I can find is a little dated.  Just wondering if anyone knows of a fix for this.
[17:09] <own1x> Pelo: seems to not be configured propely then I guess, when i do ipvsadm -L -n I get no results
[17:09] <Pelo> own1x, maybe the ppl in #neworking or in ##linux can help you out , I'm just your basic home user
[17:09] <LjL> !away > Raff7[AwAy]    (Raff7[AwAy], see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:09] <Raff7[AwAy]> LjL al momento sono away, motivo: study
[17:09] <own1x> Pelo: thanks!
[17:11] <docwat232> Hello.
[17:11] <hti_pr1> anyone still having issues with setting dma on pata drives
[17:11] <hti_pr1> or found a fix
[17:11]  * Pelo is gonna start comming in in the mornings,  it's so quiet and restfull
[17:12] <RyanPrior> I'm having some minor trouble with my graphics card. I want to have direct rendering capability, but my glxinfo says "direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)". I'm using fglrx, which I just installed using the hardware driver manager.
[17:13] <Lamego> RyanPrior, if you are using hardy keep your issues on #ubuntu+1
[17:13] <yumi> can anyone help with a tv out issue? i'm trying to clone my screen output to tv through s-video, and the resolution on tv is wrong (i have to push the borders of the screen with the mouse to see it all).
[17:14] <Pelo> !dualhead | yumi have you tried doing it this way ?
[17:14] <ubotu> yumi have you tried doing it this way ?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:14] <RPClancy> Is there a channel for suslinux?
[17:14] <hti_pr1> your virtual resolution is set higher that physical resolution
[17:14] <RPClancy> suse*
[17:14] <Pelo> RPClancy, try #opensuse or #suse
[17:14] <RPClancy> thank you
[17:15] <hti_pr1> can anyone point me to a channel that might be able to help with dma+libata issues on Gutsy Gibbon
[17:15] <Pelo> hti_pr1,  I thought you said you found a solution ?
[17:16] <Pelo> hti_pr1, in #hardware maybe,  not sure it,s a gutsy problems in itself
[17:16] <docwat232> I have a Dell Latitude C600 that I'd like to install 7.10 on that is stalling on boot up at the ubuntu flash screen. The dvd drive just stops. I've disable all the power management in the bios, but no change. Any ideas?
[17:16] <hti_pr1> The situation doesn't exactly fit, it si for controllers with ide and sata, mine is strictly pata
[17:16] <yumi> Pelo: i've read this post before, didnt help =/
[17:16] <Pelo> docwat232, do you get as far as the cd menu ?  try the text based install
[17:17] <yumi> Pelo: i have an nvidia card, using the nvidia-settings app
[17:18] <Pelo> yumi, I don'T know anything about it but hti-pr1 did tell you to adjust the virtual resolution of the monitor (tv) I guess taht mgith be in menu > system > prefs> resolution or monitors
[17:18] <docwat232> I'm downloading the alternative iso now. I get to the menu. After selecting the install option, it goes to the ubuntu logo with the progress bar thingy, then it stops. The bar just tracks back and forth.
[17:19] <yumi> Pelo: hti-pr1: i'll try, thank you
[17:19] <Pelo> docwat232, the alternate install cd should help, but if you have the dvd , the text installer is already on it
[17:19] <mid5> nick mid5
[17:19] <Pelo> mid5,   /nick newnick
[17:19] <boris> hello
[17:19] <boris> i havent got any sound. sometimes im getting sound after reboo, sometimes nor
[17:19] <boris> not*
[17:20] <boris> reboot*
[17:20] <Pelo> boris, check in menu > system > admin > restricted drivers see if you have a restricted driver you need to install
[17:20] <rzec> Lets say i install the beta of ubuntu 8.04.  When it is offically released will i need to download it again of will i just be about to upgrade the beta to the full release through the automatic update system?
[17:20] <hischild> rzec: just update it :-)
[17:20] <Pelo> rzec, you will just update if any new mods hve been included in the OFficial
[17:21] <rzec> cool, just wanted to make sure.
[17:21] <yumi> Pelo: hti-pr1: worked! thank you so much!
[17:21] <DanielRS> When I try to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 through the "update manager" the small window frozes and it never installs. Can someone help me?
[17:21] <docwat232> Ok, I am at the install menu. Which option starts the text install?
[17:21] <bharadwaj> I have installed cdemu in gusty..It was successful, up and running. while i was installing NFSMW in cedega it asked for the fourt CD when I try to mount I get an error..I am in the middle of the installation help needed please..
[17:21] <Pelo> yumi, hti-pr1 is gone but I 'll pass it along
[17:21] <yumi> Pelo: lol, alright, thank you =)
[17:21] <Pelo> docwat232, read ,  I ' m not sure which it is , I don'T remember
[17:22] <Pelo> docwat232, when I say install menu , I mean the boot menu of the cd , the first thing you see after it's booted up
[17:22] <boris> Pelo: it says ive got to install linux restricted modules bla bla bla generic for the manager to work, im installing it now. i deleted it because of fglrx
[17:22] <hischild> DanielRS: try updating via CLI and see if it gives an error
[17:22] <mrgreaper> i hope im in the right place lol im having a problem with ubuntu ( a few to be honest) most pressing one is my windows pc cant access my samba shares i need to make linux samba not ask for passwords
[17:22] <DanielRS> hischild: How do I do that?
[17:22] <Pelo> boris, start with that , you can always put it back after
[17:23] <hischild> DanielRS: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:23] <docwat232> Yes, that is where I am. "start or install ubuntu" is the option it stalls on.
[17:23] <Pelo> mrgreaper, try asking in #samba or in #smb ,  I'm no good with this network stuff
[17:24] <mrgreaper> ok will do
[17:24] <bharadwaj> mrgeaper:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[17:24] <Pelo> docwat232,do you have the cd or the dvd ?
[17:24] <docwat232> It is the 7.10 live cd, I believe.
[17:24] <bharadwaj> mrgreaper: do you want a guidence right from begining?
[17:24] <DanielRS> hischild: I'll try that. I need to reboot first, because it now can't "lock the administration directory"
[17:24] <hischild> DanielRS: don't reboot
[17:24] <Pelo> docwat232, if you have the cd you won'T have the alternate install on it ,  you'll hve to dl the alternate install cd,
[17:24] <hischild> !aptfix
[17:24] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:25] <hischild> DanielRS: execute that one.
[17:25] <DanielRS> hischild: I get that error
[17:25] <docwat232> Ah, ok. 400 megs to go then. Thanks for the help.
[17:25] <DanielRS> hischild:  "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[17:26] <hischild> DanielRS: if you execute ==>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a <== it'll unlock your database
[17:26] <Pelo> DanielRS, close synaptic , add/remove and /or dpkg,  you can only have one package manager running at a time
[17:27] <DanielRS> hischild:  It killed a process that was not in the "system monitor"
[17:27] <bharadwaj> anybody help please! I am in between the installation process when I mount the 4CD i get error in cdemu...
[17:28] <Pelo> bharadwaj, wht are you installing ?
[17:28] <hischild> DanielRS: that's possible. Please close all package managers and/or update managers you may have open and execute the following command again ==> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:28] <boris> Pelo: it says "Your hardware doesnt need any restricted drivers"
[17:28] <DanielRS> hischild:  It's installing something. Now I'll wait to see if this works
[17:28] <QuickGold> what is the command line location for a samba share?
[17:28] <Pelo> boris, hold on
[17:28] <Pelo> !sound | boris proceede with this then
[17:28] <ubotu> boris proceede with this then: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:28] <QuickGold> i.e. //server1/sambashare ?
[17:29] <hischild> DanielRS: good. If it gives an error, please pastebin it and give us the link.
[17:29] <Pelo> QuickGold, try asking in #samba
[17:29] <dani__> hello !  I need a shortcut/command to list in terminal the current path ! PLZ HELP
[17:29] <bharadwaj> Pelo: I am installing NFSMW in cedega. Here is the error what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62130/
[17:29] <hischild> dani__: try pwd
[17:29] <Pelo> dani__, pwd
[17:30] <dani__> perfect ; 10x
[17:30] <Pelo> bharadwaj, ask in a cedaga channel
[17:30] <skillz> hi, im using the ping command to collect data, is there a way in which i remove all data and only leave the ping statistics provided at the bottom of each set, and output it to a file?
[17:30] <DanielRS> hischild:  It finished with no error, but still 7.10
[17:30] <boris> Pelo: ive got 3 deviced with (Alsa Mixer) : CA0106, Intel ICH5, USB Device bla bla bla
[17:30] <hischild> DanielRS:  what are you attempting?
[17:30] <hischild> skillz: didn't you ask it before and weren't you helped by someone who knew perl?
[17:30] <DanielRS> hischild:  Upgrade to 8.04
[17:30] <bharadwaj> Pelo: have a look at error my problem is with cdemu and cedega..
[17:30] <Pelo> boris, try each of them ,  acgtualy try the one your speakers are connected to
[17:30] <boris> Pelo: ive got 2 sound cards. 1, i believe intel ICH5, is integrated. i dont want to use it anymore
[17:31] <skillz> hischild: this is different
[17:31] <Pelo> boris, you might want to blacklist the driver for that one in modprobe, or try disabling it in your bios
[17:31] <phpluv> how can i mount an iso image to make it recognized as a cdrom drive ?
[17:31] <skillz> i just want to take the ping stats and output it to another file
[17:31] <boris> Pelo: ill try the BIOS. just need to get password first
[17:32] <Pelo> phpluv, not sure you can at this time, I think it's supposed to be fixed in hardy
[17:32] <nonix4> skillz: ping -q > file
[17:32] <bharadwaj> boris, have a look at this before going any further..https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#head-72023a784829d5d128546a6092d67062ab50dfea
[17:32] <Pelo> bharadwaj, you are instaling from cd images ?
[17:32] <skillz> nonix4: i have all the data stored in a file
[17:32] <skillz> already
[17:33] <bharadwaj> pelo, yeah the *bin and cue file images..
[17:33] <phpluv> pelo: thanks for your answer i'm sad i really need this
[17:33] <Pelo> bharadwaj, you can't mount ,bin they hve to be iso
[17:33] <nonix4> skillz: just one host per file? tail -3
[17:33] <bharadwaj> Pelo: cdemu is used to mount *.bin and *cue files...:)
[17:33] <skillz> nonix4: i have 6 sets of hosts per file
[17:34] <Pelo> phpluv,  I tried to do ti for a kvcd but it didn'T work for me ,  maybe someone else knows, try looking in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[17:34] <Pelo> bharadwaj, is cdemu a linux ap ?
[17:34] <hischild> DanielRS: i'm sorry for the slow response. I've checked and it would appear you have to do use the update-manager. However, it may take a long time for it to complete the update. Did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades?
[17:34] <InitMass> neither gparted or qtparted wants to start. what could be the reason?
[17:34] <bharadwaj> Pelo: 100% linux grown app...
[17:34] <phpluv> pelo i just looked but i ca't find information about making it seen as a regular cdrom drive unfortunately
[17:34] <Pelo> bharadwaj, try finding a cdemu channel
[17:35] <Pelo> phpluv, burn baby burn
[17:35] <somewherebackinc> Hi!  I need help!  My usb printer port is disabled sometimes and my printer is not working. Any suggest?
[17:35] <Pelo> ;-)
[17:35] <bharadwaj> Pelo: I am afraid they don't have it..only mailling lists but I am in the middle of the installation so mailing lists won't really help me out..
[17:35] <somewherebackinc> I use Ubuntu 7.04
[17:35] <Pelo> somewherebackinc, menu > SYSTEM > prefs > removable media ,  check to make sure the autodetect printer box is checked , that,s the only suggestion I have
[17:36] <w0nder> yo, i just installed Gutsy... what's a good list of extras i should install to improve my overall experience? fonts, etc?
[17:36] <dngr> can 7.10 be upgraderd to 8.04?
[17:36] <skillz> i have 6 sets of host per ping file, i jsut want to extract the ping statistics from the file, and output it, can anyone help?
[17:36] <DanielRS> hischild:  I got the code I'm using from there. But after clicking "upgrade" and after a few screens, I just got an empty window with the title "Distribution Upgrade"
[17:36] <somewherebackinc> Thansk Pelo
[17:36] <Pelo> !fonts > w0nder check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[17:36] <Pelo> !flash > w0nder check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[17:36] <Pelo> !dvd > w0nder
[17:37] <hischild> DanielRS: can you screenshot it and put it at a site like imageshack.us ?
[17:37] <Pelo> !mp3 > w0nder
[17:37] <phpluv> Pelo: burning is too expensive in this case
[17:37] <suxxor> i`ve started vmware through adminester account but when i start to make virtual machine it doesn`t show me the home partion where i have space to create the machine , help!
[17:37] <bharadwaj> somewherebackinc, first go through this...http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/printing_ubuntu  later....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/TroubleShooting
[17:37] <hischild> suxxor: don't use your admin account to start vmware. It should run as normal user iirc.
[17:37] <Pelo> phpluv, what is on the cd ?
[17:37] <phpluv> Pelo: OS X
[17:38] <ptn107> dngr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[17:38] <phpluv> Pelo: VMWare wont allow me to select an arbitrarty mount point, it has to be a CD
[17:38] <skillz> i have 6 sets of host per ping file, i jsut want to extract the ping statistics from the file, and output it, can anyone help?
[17:38] <Pelo> phpluv, , assuming this isnT' for an install ,  youcan try and extract the iso to a folder using fileroller and then pick the files you want from it,
[17:38] <Troofy> iam tring to install inspircd that requires g++ and having this error. (i dont have the ubuntu install cd atm) http://pastebin.com/m37936ed6 any help?
[17:38] <hischild> skillz: use tail, grep and cut.
[17:39] <Pelo> phpluv, just brainstorming here, but create a 700 meg partiton , extract the iso to it , then make a create a symlink pointing the cdrom to the partiton ,
[17:39] <skillz> hischild: can you please help, i dont know how?
[17:40] <bharadwaj> hischild: go to system->synaptic Package manager->repositories->sources and uncheck the CD
[17:40] <DanielRS> hischild: you can see it in: on-logica.net/Screenshot.png
[17:40] <noodlesgc> Troofy you need to go to System->Administration->Software Sources and uncheck the cd
[17:40] <hischild> bharadwaj: wrong nick?
[17:40] <bod_> can anyone with a bit of programming knowledge take a look at this plz (the question is at the bottom of the paste) -- http://pastebin.com/f6ce74da2 -- thanks ;~)
[17:40] <bharadwaj> hischild: oh yeah! sorry mean that thing was meant for Troofy
[17:40] <hischild> bharadwaj: np
[17:40] <bharadwaj> Troofy: go to system->synaptic Package manager->repositories->sources and uncheck the CD
[17:41] <nonix4> skillz: so were you actually interested in any other lines than hostname & rtt? egrep '^---|^rtt' yourfile # would do the filtering...
[17:41] <Pelo> bob_, ask in #bash
[17:41] <hischild> DanielRS: that's just outright odd ... did you give it some time?
[17:41] <phpluv> Pelo: can't i make a symlink pointing to the mointed iso instead ?
[17:41] <bod_> Pelo, they scare me, and i got no answer
[17:41] <skillz> nonix4: yeh all im interested in is the rtt  realy..
[17:42] <Pelo> phpluv, , I don'T know , I don'T even know if the other one would work , I was just throwing stuff out ,
[17:42] <DanielRS> hischild: I had the same problem when upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 and then I gave it around 10hours
[17:42] <Troofy> bharadwaj noodlesgc ok thx
[17:42] <bertvdp> hi, how can I mount a DVD image so I can play it with a movie player (just standard loop mounting does NOT work) ???
[17:42] <hischild> DanielRS: did it happen to fix it?
[17:42] <DanielRS> hischild: That time a got a CD from a magazine
[17:43] <suxxor> 10x
[17:43] <Pelo> bertvdp, just loop mount it and play the .VOB files
[17:43] <hischild> DanielRS: you can dl the cd from Ubuntu
[17:43] <Roger_Smith> bertvdp: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[17:43] <DanielRS> hischild: Too slow internet connection (512kbps)
[17:44] <Pelo> Roger_Smith, but that doesn't let you play it as a dvd , it just mounts it as regular data
[17:44] <row_> I want to use my nokia n95 (8gb) to connect my ubuntu laptop to the internet does anyone know how/of any howtos to do so?
[17:44] <row_> did a quick google and nothing jumped at me
[17:44] <Pelo> row_, try in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org , there is table of content at the beginning
[17:44] <maek> rubbish ... Ive downloaded a 1.2 GB file on a 256kbps connection DanielRS
[17:45] <hischild> DanielRS: aww that sux tbqh .. i'm sorry but i'm lost then ... perhaps that time will give it a fix
[17:45] <nonix4> maek: just think of 60 gigabyte rsync over 256kbps... or 10 gigabytes over 14.4kbps :)
[17:45] <Troofy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:45] <Troofy> i
[17:45] <DanielRS> hischild: I'll try to download the CD, but it'll probably give an error
[17:46] <magnetron> row_: the easiest will be to connect to the phone via bluetooth
[17:46] <Pelo> Troofy, close other package managers   synaptic adept add/remove etc
[17:46] <boris> bharadwaj : thank you, it seemed to work
[17:46] <Troofy> Pelo everything is closed
[17:46] <Pelo> someone had a command earlier to close extra processes that might use it , I can't scroll back that far
[17:47] <Pelo> hischild, were yo the one with te kill ocmmand for hidden dpkg processes ?
[17:47] <boris> now ive got another problem. the music regulation and mute buttons on my keyboard dont work. the internet, music player and play/pause buttons work
[17:48] <hischild> Pelo: i have no idea. Perhaps that sudo ps aux | grep dpkg would do what you want? i am only aware of !aptfix
[17:48] <Pelo> Troofy, try the command hischild just posted
[17:48] <bharadwaj> Troofy: your welcome
[17:48] <Troofy> Pelo no use
[17:49] <Pelo> arighty,  later folks
[17:49] <Pelo> Troofy, reboot
[17:49] <Pelo> later
[17:49] <ibou> How to open a *.cue file? Is it possible to mount it as an *.iso ?
[17:49] <nonix4> Hmm, anyone here installed ubuntu on a --bind mounted /boot? In another words, I'd like to install several distro versions on same /boot partition...
[17:49] <bharadwaj> boris: I am glad to hear that...welcome..
[17:50] <hischild> ibou: use bchunk to convert it to a .iso and then mount it.
[17:50]  * nonix4 's english generation code seems to be suffering from an engrish inflection...
[17:50] <Troofy> i see 'apache2' as a proces in ksysgaurd. anything wrong?
[17:51] <bharadwaj> boris: have a look at this...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[17:51] <ibou> hischild: i tryed but i can't use bchunk. I used this command : bchunk "New Model Army - High.cue" "New Model Army - High.iso" "New Model Army"
[17:52] <hischild> ibou: that's true. bchunk <file.cue> <file.bin> <file.iso>
[17:52] <ibou> ok
[17:53] <Troofy> in linux can i make my pc a server for ircd + webserver + email server + some others. + desktop use too and keep it stable and up for months?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: i don't see why not, but servers isn't my thing... I'll tell you my computer has been up for about 19 days, and has been fine
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> it regularly goes at least a month before i restart it
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> unless there's some sort of kernel upgrade, etc.
[17:54] <xFlipx> afternoon
[17:54] <simplexio> Troofy: da 19:57:36 up 302 days,  3:36, 18 users
[17:54] <ibou> hischild: i use this command : bchunk "New Model Army - High.cue" "New Model Army - High.bin" "New Model Army - High.iso". I have this error: Could not open CUE New Model Army - High.bin: No such file or directory
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> damn, 302 days?
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> thtas impressive
[17:55] <simplexio> Troofy: thought there is still vmsplice vulnearibility in that machine, but i trust users
[17:55] <hischild> ibou: then switch the .bin and .cue file.
[17:55] <_julian__> I did a dpkg -i on a package which failed to install due to missing dependencies. now I decided to not install that package at all, but if I try to install different packages I now get an error, because it tries to install that faulty package again. how can I remove that?
[17:55] <Troofy> IndyGunFreak hmm. any load things.. or some other aspects.. many advised me to have a cheap pc do all that work. i provide lan internet services to locals too.
[17:55] <mortal1> I just deleted about 20 avi's in xfs (using rm) that I need to recover
[17:55] <wonko69> Hi everyone. I was just wondering is there a way to configure session to start an application on a specific workspace?
[17:55] <Troofy> simplexio iam  a noob to understand that
[17:55] <mortal1> anyone done this before
[17:55] <genii> Troofy: I just explained in #kubuntu to instead use another box with ubuntu-server and no desktop. Then use your normal desktop box to ssh to it for maintenance, installations, etc etc
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: not really, just basic desktop stuff,
[17:55] <xFlipx> mortal: look in .trash
[17:55] <hischild> mortal1: there is no undelete utility for xfs i'm afraid.
[17:55] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Troofy: but i agree w/ genii
[17:55] <xFlipx> doh
[17:56] <hischild> xFlipx: rm removes, not moves to trash
[17:56] <xFlipx> si
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> so why were you using rm?
[17:56] <xFlipx> he really wanted them gone
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> apparently not
[17:56] <Troofy> genii i have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???
[17:56] <xFlipx> lol
[17:56] <simplexio> Troofy:.. but like that uptime tells, it should be there until you start lose hardware or power
[17:56] <xFlipx> 20 bucks says it was pr0n
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> i thougth he deleted it, and din't want to?
[17:57] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:57] <xFlipx> you're right
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> or wanted to restore it?
[17:57] <Serveck> hey, im hyaving some issues getting my laptop to go into suspend or hibernate
[17:57] <xFlipx> yepz
[17:57] <mortal1> negative, I wanted to remove all the sub files from a directory with avis
[17:57] <hischild> Troofy: for if one goes wrong, the other still runs
[17:57] <Troofy> simplexio ok. i have a p4 1.8g 1g ram atm. if i have to buy a p3 1g as a server. why not upgrade my p4 to dualcore and use one pc for all???
[17:57] <Serveck> i click on hibernate, the screen goes blank, and i get root
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: you want to restore it, or dleete it so your parents couldn't find it?..lol
[17:57] <xFlipx> lol
[17:57] <mortal1> I issued rm *.s* thinking it would just delete them
[17:57] <Serveck> how do i restart from root?
[17:58] <xFlipx> wth is auto complete in xchat?!
[17:58] <ibou> hischild: error: Could not open BIN New Model Army - High.bin: No such file or directory
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> Serveck: well, you really shouldn't be logged in as root, so the same way you restart a user
[17:58] <ibou> ...
[17:58] <mortal1> lo and behold half the directory of avi's disapear
[17:58] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> !tab | xFlipx
[17:58] <ubotu> xFlipx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:58] <Serveck> thats what i dont know, im completely new to linux
[17:58] <simplexio> Troofy: well new dualcore dosent cost that much. so you could even buy new computer for that desktop use
[17:58] <xFlipx> yar it's not working - oh well
[17:58] <hischild> ibou: then the file doesn't exist. Please doublecheck if the file exists
[17:58] <sipior> ZurnaNet41: not really the purpose of this channel
[17:58] <Serveck> it says: sdisk: snapshotting system
[17:58] <Serveck> and just hangs
[17:59] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[17:59] <Troofy> simplexio hm
[17:59] <Serveck> im locked in the KDE screen
[17:59] <LollinopiL> with gimp i can't see all the window setting so i can' give the OK button WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:59] <genii> Troofy: X uses quite a lot of resources to run, also it's a security risk for running it on a box to be a server.
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: in desktop/server problem usualy is that desktop sometimes eats all power and other way around. so desktop could be slow or server side program are slow
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> did you guys see that $299 Freespire PC for sale... can't remember who trhough now.
[17:59] <Troofy> simplexio i would have to buy biger ups and battery too then. if i use 2 pcs
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: in 2 machine configuraton there isnt that problem
[17:59] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: was walmart?
[17:59] <simplexio> Troofy: hwo big ups ?
[17:59] <xFlipx> wow tab worked this time...
[17:59] <sipior> ZurnaNet41: still not an appropriate venue...
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: well, walmart has one, and then there was another.. one was running freespire, don't remember what the other was running
[18:00] <ZurnaNet41> Hi guys , could you please check this webpage out, and give me your feedback www.eismanicaclara.com
[18:00] <uberblue> 9111
[18:00] <genii> Troofy: Also since most servers are supposed to be up and operational as much as possible this means you need to keep your desktop box on all the time. It's better to just get an old P2 box with no gui
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: tab works fine, you're having a user malfunction
[18:00] <bharadwaj> ibou: did you use AcetoneISO?
[18:00] <LollinopiL> with gimp i can't see all the window setting so i can' give the OK button WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cn't resize it !! what can i do ?
[18:00] <ibou> hischild: what do you mean doublecheck ?
[18:00] <simplexio> Troofy: or "even" better solution. but that ols p4 as server and get yourself a laptop (includes ups)
[18:00] <Troofy> simplexio i have one to support one pc only
[18:00] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..
[18:00] <mirnazim> hi guys. I am have this problem. DVDs are refusing to mount at all. when try to mount from command line it takes all the time in universe and nothing happens
[18:00] <hischild> ibou: "can't open file" means either it can't read the file or the file isn't there.
[18:01] <mirnazim> some googling tells me updates are the culprit. any idea guys. Any soft of help is greatly appreciated
[18:01] <sipior> mirnazim: bad discs? or bad drive?
[18:01] <Serveck> what is the command for reboot in kde?
[18:01] <ibou> bharadwaj:  yes the last version can't convert or mount .cue files
[18:01] <MrSteve> so far, I have not seen where.. two drives and two OS can run
[18:01] <simplexio> Troofy: i have 1kW ups to power 2 :) not bad for 80e
[18:01] <Troofy> simplexio  genii k
[18:01] <Bunjo> Hello I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 but it is throwing me an error, is this the place where I can seek help?
[18:01] <tabber> anyone knows why under the "extensions with errors" tab of the deskbar applet I get "beagled could not be found in your $PATH"?
[18:01] <bharadwaj> ibou: what is your purpose of *.cue or *.bin?
[18:01] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: It's pebkac...
[18:01] <sipior> mirnazim: have you tried several different discs? (pressed and burned)
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> xFlipx: lol, wait.. whats that one OS that is based on Ubuntu.. gOS or something?.. thats what the other one in the review had
[18:01] <hischild> what is the suggested IRCD that's easy on cpu?
[18:02] <mirnazim> yes actually VCDs and data CDs are working fine. I can burn then as well
[18:02] <mirnazim> but DVD movie or data DVD not working
[18:02] <wonko69> nobody knows how to automatically start an application on a workspace other then 1?
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> IRCD?
[18:02] <Bunjo> Anyone knows if ubuntu 7.10 supports Visiontek x1650 pro PCIe card? or if there is a bug with it?
[18:02] <harushimo> I am having a problem with flash
[18:02] <sipior> mirnazim: forgive me for asking, but it is a dvd-capable drive?
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: you need to install the DVD codecs
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> sipior: lol
[18:03] <harushimo> any website I go, when I am streaming video, it goes gray
[18:03] <harushimo> the site screen
[18:03] <simplexio> hischild: i think that all ircd are pretty much easy
[18:03] <sipior> IndyGunFreak: i don't mean that to be insulting. i've seen it before.
[18:03] <kane77> wonko69, there is app called devilspie that does that
[18:03] <ibou> bharadwaj: my file is a .cue
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> sipior: it struck me as comical.
[18:03] <harushimo> what do I do
[18:03] <genii> Troofy: The server kernel is also different from the generic kernel in that optimised for multiuser performance and not for speed of running programs. So you will have overall slower running of X etc. Also many modules for things like ati cards, nvidia etc etc are not being compiled for -server version
[18:03] <wonko69> kane77, thanks I will look into it
[18:03] <simplexio> hischild: if you dont plan to eun it with hundreds users, and then network probably is first to give problems
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: thats probably not a flash site them, its some other codec, does Youtube work?
[18:03] <bharadwaj> ibou: is that you want to mount it?
[18:03] <mirnazim> sipior:  my dvd drive is capable of reading and writing DVDs.
[18:04] <mirnazim> and yes I have all the codecs
[18:04] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..
[18:04] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: let me check
[18:04] <sipior> mirnazim: of course, apologies. have you tried different type of DVDs in it?
[18:04] <ibou> bharadwaj: yes
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: then you should be able to play DVDs
[18:04] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | harushimo
[18:04] <ubotu> harushimo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:04] <harushimo> the site loads up but it show the videos
[18:04] <sipior> mirnazim: i assume mounting data discs doesn't work either?
[18:04] <harushimo> doesn't
[18:05] <mirnazim> yes I was able to play DVDs 12-20 days back. Just did  not watch a dvd for some time due to work presure
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: and you're sure flash is installed?
[18:05] <Troofy> genii how about i use desktop install. for all.
[18:05] <bharadwaj> ibou: try cdemu I am using it and really a very nice to try out to mount any image file...
[18:05] <hischild> simplexio: it doesn't have to be easy as i'm fairly good at figuring things out. Network will be a 54MBit wlan network ran from school. I'm attempting to set up a personal network for us linux users who use wlan and would like IRC for communication
[18:05] <harushimo> yeah, its installed
[18:05] <suxxor> i can`t run this vmware it shows me this error attemting to start the machine "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error:
[18:05] <suxxor> End of error message."
[18:05] <mirnazim> sipior: yes i tried mounting from command line
[18:05] <sipior> mirnazim: then the obvious question--what did you change?
[18:05] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: what browser/version and what version of ubuntu?
[18:05] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: its installed and the version is 2.0.12
[18:05] <simplexio> hischild: why you dont use some existing network
[18:05] <ibou> bharadwaj: ok thanks
[18:06] <mirnazim> spiror: nothing related to DVD playing. Just installed reglar updates from ubuntu
[18:06] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: ubuntu 7.10
[18:06] <ibou> hischild: thanks but the file is there. I try by renaming it
[18:06] <sipior> mirnazim: you might try cleaning the lens--might be having trouble with DVDs (the requirements for CDs are, i understand, not quite as demanding)
[18:06] <Troofy> genii heres the complete info btw
[18:06] <Troofy>  ircd, webhosting, email server, giveing lan internet to local ppl in colony. (packet shapers, band limiters), personal use , gaming. windows gamings too. ( i rarely switch to windows though, for gaming. (no 3d support in vbox or wmware)).  i currently have p4 1.8g 1g ram. and a ups that supports one pc only.
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: i don't know.. doesn'tm make any sense, cuz it works fine for me
[18:06] <redwhitewaldo> i'm on xubuntu. i'm trying to install skype, but it says 'Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core". How do i get that libqt4-core file?
[18:06] <simplexio> hischild: usually keeping servers behind wlan is bad idea
[18:06] <mirnazim> sipior: in fact I am still able to play VCDs
[18:06] <Bunjo> Anyone knows what does ERR8 when I start the installation of UBUNTU 7.10 means?
[18:06] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: and 99.9% of other people
[18:06] <hischild> simplexio: because we don't get access to the internet access there :(
[18:06] <simplexio> hischild: ahh..
[18:07] <simplexio> hischild: i think pretty muhc any ircd that you can configure is good
[18:07] <Scunizi> anyone get an error in Kmymoney2 on Gutsy when adding a new account that says "unable to add account:Unknown account id 'A000204'? but the account shows up in the list. Is this just a phantom error that means nothing?
[18:07] <hischild> simplexio: considering the server will be about 1m from the router i think that end will be fine. alright
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> mirnazim: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[18:07] <sipior> mirnazim: if you have already excluded the drive, and you have already excluded the operating system, what do you think the problem might be?
[18:07] <simplexio> hischild: well traffic to "pollutes" whole router "air" bandwith
[18:08] <xFlipx> IndyGunFreak: Might be cheaper to get some hardware from newegg - I guess that doesn't mean much though if you don't already have a computer to burn the iso onto...
[18:08] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: its working now
[18:08] <simplexio> hischild: but ircd shouldnt create that much traffic
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> harushimo: its a miracle
[18:08] <xFlipx> 299 for an internet box isn't bad
[18:08] <harushimo> IndyGunFreak: tell me about it
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:08] <mirnazim> sipior: as of now i have no idea. but i tested the same DVD on gutsy system which had not installed any updates
[18:08] <hischild> simplexio: i was hoping it wouldn't create much :-)
[18:08] <mirnazim> spirior: and it worked flawlessly
[18:09] <sipior> mirnazim: but not the identical hardware?
[18:09] <harushimo> thanks everyone
[18:09] <redwhitewaldo> people, where do i get libqt4-core?
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> redwhitewaldo: probably the repositories.. what are you trying to install that needs it?
[18:10] <xFlipx> lol
[18:10] <tonage> I want my ubuntu sytem to display on my tv.  Anyone know of a video card that will definately work?
[18:10] <mirnazim> spirior: so any idea where to look for problem
[18:10] <Wanderer> with a shell regex, I am doing "cat <file> | grep [0-9].[0-9]"
[18:10] <Wanderer> how do I make it grab the numbers at the begging of the line
[18:10] <Scunizi> tonage, i've used nvidia 6000 series..
[18:10] <Wanderer> like "grep ^[0-9]" ?
[18:11] <Bunjo> Does Visiontek ATI X1650 PRo work on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[18:11] <MrSteve> hmm.. can't burn dvd.. might be copy protect set your dvd... try to run the dvd now in the good system.. before doing more.
[18:11] <xFlipx> Bunjo: it'll work
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> Bunjo: it'll *work*.. now installing the ATI drivers for it, might be a pain, but it will work w/ the generic vga/vesa driver, you just may not get desktop effects, etc.
[18:11] <sipior> i'm still not convinced that the drive isn't the problem. if you have an extra optical drive (or know how to boot from a usb stick), you might try booting the machine with the gutsy live cd, and see if it can mount DVDs in that state.
[18:12] <MrSteve> yes, that would be a clean install with diff dvd codec
[18:12] <sipior> mirnazim: sorry, see my immediately previous comment
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> brb, gonna try to start wireless on gutsy... :)
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> *hardy
[18:12] <Bunjo> IndyGunFreak : but I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 and it is giving me err8 any idea what is that? the only change to my system is the ATI card, but I had a running ubuntu 7.10 berore
[18:13] <xFlipx> Bunjo: what's the error?
[18:13] <MrSteve> eh, I had a cd-rw.. that died, it wrote a disk, and then would not open it
[18:13] <Bunjo> xFlipx: when the first screen appears I hit enter (or any other key) to get the live mode running, but I get "err8"
[18:14] <CJS3141> If I go to System > Adminstration > Software Sources, in the "third-party category" tab I have some sources listed. These sources are not listed in my /etc/apt/sources.list file; I'm wondering what is the relationship between the two?
[18:14] <MrSteve> then, it opened some disks, but not others
[18:14] <xFlipx> Bunjo: interesting - do you get to the point where you can format the drive?
[18:14] <Serveck> i have this really odd problem with s2disk when hibernating
[18:14] <Bunjo> xFlipx I only get to the first menu where I choose to install run live mode etc.
[18:14] <genii> Troofy: If you're interested in setting up servers I'd recommend visiting #ubuntu-server specifically
[18:14] <Serveck> it goes to a black screen with "s2disk: snapshotting system" and does nothing
[18:15] <xFlipx> Bunjo: so you can't even boot into the live cd?
[18:15] <Serveck> it goes to a black screen with "s2disk: snapshotting system" and does nothing
[18:15] <Bunjo> xFlipx : exactly
[18:15] <MrSteve> how long do you wait Serveck.. enuff time?
[18:15] <jimena> aaa
[18:15] <jimena> erk
[18:15] <xFlipx> Bunjo: and this same system previously had ubuntu installed?
[18:15] <Bunjo> xFlipx: but the funny thing is, that kubuntu 7.4 runs (I want to change it to ubuntu 7.10)
[18:16] <xFlipx> hmm - - sounds like a gnome problem
[18:16] <elventear> Hello. I have setup an Ubuntu server using RAID 1 on the main OS disk. Everything seems to be running fine, but now I want to test if I would be able to boot from one of the disks if the other disk failed and I haven't been able to do that. Is there something else I have to do, besides install grub on the MBR of the second disk?
[18:16] <arnath> is there a "better" way of taking screenshots in ubuntu then print screen?
[18:16] <xFlipx> arnath: that's how you take screenshots in any OS
[18:17] <dek> how do I make the Vim editor remember settings?, such as when I input ":syntax on" i want it to remember it for the next time I start it.
[18:17] <arnath> xFlipx: yes, but the problem is that i can't take a screenshot of an open menu :s
[18:17] <Bunjo> xFlipx: I had ubuntu installed (and upgraded to 7.10) but I got this new graphic card, since then it was not working, so I successfully installed kubuntu 7.4 but I want to go back to ubuntu 7.10 and I can't :)
[18:17] <simplexio> Troofy: i have x2 3800+ 3g ram and too not enough hard drives. my 100Mbit lan is pretty much all time full, machine has 2 users, i run pretty big development  database  and working with it and systems works fine. but that is pretty much bacause i have lots of ram and several hard disk where to share io loads
[18:17] <arnath> xFlipx: the tool in control of the screenshot process just doesn't respond if a menu is open
[18:17] <Troofy> genii ok
[18:17] <MrSteve> I have XP on this hard disk, and I have another 200gb drive to install.. I want Linux on it, and XP to remain as is..  got a URL for info how to do this?
[18:17] <sipior> elventear: you mean you can't boot from the second disk, or you can't boot from either?
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: easy
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: install kubuntu
[18:17] <endo> my system has been acting mad buggy lately, expecially the desktop. Have of the time the icons dont even work, now when I booted up my background, and icons dont even show up
[18:17] <xFlipx> Bunjo: then do apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[18:17] <Flannel> !dualboot | MrSteve
[18:17] <ubotu> MrSteve: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:17] <fat-head> hello, i am trying to run my games in a seperate x server. not just linux native games but wine games mostly, i am using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51486. the problem is when i type xauth then list in terminal i get 1 line of output and then instead of the blinker going back to xauth> it stays |  and i cant type exit either ?? anyone knwo what the problem is ?
[18:17] <angelo> sera
[18:18] <xFlipx> arnath: gotcha - not sure on that one
[18:18] <Pici> arnath: gnome-screenshot has a few more options that you can specify.  Check out gnome-screenshot -i and the manpage.
[18:18] <MrSteve> thks Flannel
[18:18] <simplexio> Troofy: so i dont know how much power p4 has, but what i would recoomend if you plan really run several services on it. have lots of ram atleast 2 cores, and share data to several hard drives
[18:18] <arnath> Pici: ah ok thanks
[18:18] <elventear> sipior: I can't boot from the second disk. I remove the first disk. Start and boot and I am not able to boot. Initally I assumed Grub was missing from the the second disk. But by using a Grub boot disk I booted the Kernel and it froze at some point
[18:18] <Flannel> MrSteve: It's really easy. Install Ubuntu on the free space, and install GRUB to the MBR.  If you don't want to overwrite the windows MBR, install GRUB onto the MBR of the second disk, andchange your boot order in the BIOS (GRUB boots windows fine)
[18:18] <xFlipx> Pici has you covered :)
[18:18] <xFlipx> Bunjo: that make sense?
[18:19] <elventear> sipior: With the first disk installed, everything boots fine and RAID seems to be working fine
[18:19] <Bunjo> xFlipx: yes it does, but I am unable to configure my wireless under kubuntu
[18:19] <simplexio> Troofy: like home in one, var in one, / in one and  2-4 swap with same priority
[18:19] <sipior> elventear: probably you forgot to change the name of the root partition grub uses
[18:19] <xFlipx> ohhh
[18:19] <Whitor> Hi. After installing Ubuntu Studio and using it for some time I have a need to go back to the -Generic Kernel. If I chose the generic kernel option in grub, it gives me a flashing cursor in the upper left... though the hard drive looks like its continuing to boot. I'm pretty sure its related to my restricted drivers for my nvidia card... but I don't know how to fix this.  any ideas?
[18:19] <arnath> Pici: ah got it now, i set it to take a screenshot in a few seconds, then opened the window :>
[18:19] <xFlipx> Bunjo: there are no wired controllers?
[18:19] <xFlipx> Bunjo: may have to go wired while you do the desktop upgrade
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio x2 38000? whats that
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio ircd website, my personal web, a channel web. 1000 users on ircd. an email server fo rmy domain. 5 pcs having internet service by lan routed from the server
[18:20] <elventear> sipior: Root? When I remove a disk in grub the second disk becomes hd0
[18:20] <Troofy> simplexio 2 cores of ram? what you mean. 2 g ?
[18:20] <Bunjo> xFlipx: OK I guess I would have to move my furniture to get to the dsl router then
[18:20] <CJS3141> Why aren't the "third-party software" sources in the Software Sources program not listed in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:21] <xFlipx> Bunjo: sorry - I can't think of any alternative - it's possible that the desktop upgrade will fail
[18:21] <simplexio> Troofy: .,.. 3G ram, 2 cores
[18:21] <Bunjo> xFlipx: Thank you for the help, I shall get back here once I am finished with the upgrade
[18:21] <sipior> elventear: yes, but grub identifies the root partition to the kernel using blkuid. it may not be getting the same id for your second drive. have a look at the kernel arguments grub passes
[18:21] <xFlipx> Bunjo: The system that I have with a x1650 is a 965 chipset so I can't even install /nix on it
[18:21] <Troofy> simplexio you mean dual core?  how much gigz ?
[18:21] <simplexio> Troofy: seems tha i typoed.. i hace x2 3800+ amd
[18:21] <endo> my system has been acting mad buggy lately, expecially the desktop. Have of the time the icons dont even work, now when I booted up my background, and icons dont even show up
[18:22] <Bunjo> xFlipx: Lucky me then
[18:22] <elventear> sipior: The only argument for the kernel is root, you meant that? The arguments is an LVM partition /dev/mapper-system/root
[18:22] <xFlipx> Bunjo: good luck :)
[18:22] <Bunjo> OK I'm out
[18:22] <Troofy> simplexio you mea you have 3.8g dual core?
[18:22] <Whitor> endo, what operating system version?
[18:23] <simplexio> Troofy: amd x2 3800+ is amd dual core processor
[18:23] <endo> Whitor: gutsy
[18:23] <sipior> elventear: what is the exact root= argument that grub passes to the kernel?
[18:23] <logist>  heya, can anyone help me i have searched the web and i m going crazy, i have ubuntu server on a ibm blade center hooked up to the DS3400 storage via optic fiber.. how do i mount a drive from that storage im going crazy here
[18:23] <fat-head> what do i do when i get a box as output when using the terminal instead of xxx@xxx:~$ ??
[18:23] <elventear> sipior: /vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-server root=/dev/mapper/system-root ro quiet splash
[18:23] <endo> Whitor: 7.10
[18:24] <logist> im using 7.10 server edidtion
[18:24] <simplexio> Troofy: biggest problem is desktop use in mixed use is that services can eat all disk io from desktop user, so i have /, /var, /home, /usr /home/myuser on own hard disks
[18:24] <Whitor> endo, yeah... I saw that.. are you using gnome ?
[18:24] <MrSteve> Flannel --- I do not see TWO disk install, all show one disk with TWO operating systems on one disk drive
[18:24] <CVD-PR> Any using 8.04 beta?
[18:24] <endo> Whitor: yes, with kubuntu installed but I dont think that should make a difference
[18:24] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[18:24] <Pici> !hardy | CVD-PR
[18:24] <ubotu> CVD-PR: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:25] <logist> anyone?
[18:25] <Whitor> endo, it doesn't make a difference that Kubuntu is installed.
[18:25] <Pici> logist: I suggest asking in #ubuntu-server as well, they should be more familiar with that type of server hardware
[18:26] <killuats> hi all! im running ubuntu7.10, how do i install mysql server 4.1?
[18:26] <MrSteve> Flannel - suppose I take this Drive out, and install Ubuntu to the new drive... then re-insert the old XP drive and put the New Linux drive as 2nd Master??
[18:26] <Whitor> killuats, google that sentence
[18:26] <logist> Pici: trying that, seems no one is home there...
[18:26] <sipior> elventear: hmm...the problem you describe sounds very much like a boot loader that can't find a kernel/root partition. you've verified that the drives are in fact perfectly mirrored?
[18:26] <level09> hi, I want to add ubuntu next to my windows installation,  can I just download and install it  ?
[18:27] <level09> should I check the box next to the "alternate CD" ?
[18:27] <elventear> sipior: As fair as I can, yes, they are perfectly mirrored
[18:27] <killuats> Whitor: there's no mysql 4.1 on the repository.
[18:27] <MrSteve> level09 - can you burn a cd with an ISO?
[18:27] <simplexio> Troofy: and you can allways give better priority your desktop programs
[18:27] <Troofy> simplexio you mea you have 3.8g dual core?
[18:27] <sipior> elventear: then i'm afraid i'm out of ideas, for the moment :-)
[18:27] <endo> Whitor: I've been having so many problems lately, the system is really unstable. My resolution has been acting up as well.
[18:28] <effie_jayx> hey guys what are the most common gpg servers to send my keys to?
[18:28] <Troofy> simplexio ok. how much increasing ram helps in speed?
[18:28] <level09> MrSteve: thanks, so its probably better to install it from a CD
[18:28] <sipior> elventear: could the device mapper not know about your second disk, by any chance?
[18:28] <simplexio> Troofy: far as i remember. my processor is amd x2 3800+, and increasing ram in desktop use helps alot
[18:28] <MrSteve> level09 Live CD can boot... if you have a cd-rom that is set to boot in your bios..
[18:28] <Troofy> simplexio k.
[18:29] <elventear> sipior: I doubt it. Everything is RAID1 in this drive and they are the same
[18:29] <level09> MrSteve: thanks :)  got it
[18:29] <MrSteve> level09 ------ get the ISO download, and Make the CD
[18:29] <Whitor> endo, backup your stuff and start anew.
[18:29] <level09> is there any open source ISO burning apps ?
[18:29] <simplexio> Troofy: offcourse depends how you use it. but i have 3G RAM 87M is free 435M is in caches, 500M of swap is used on 2G is cached
[18:29] <MrSteve> level09 if you cannot burn a bootable CD from the ISO, then get disks mailed to you
[18:29] <Whitor> endo... or pick away at your issues one by one
[18:29] <Troofy> simplexio can a hardare failure occure if any one attacks pc by internet. e.g ddos?
[18:29]  * level09 is downloading the ISO
[18:30] <Chousuke> level09: yes
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio ic
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio nice
[18:30] <MrSteve> level09 Be aware of everything before you try to use the CD
[18:30] <level09> MrSteve: THanks , I guess I can burn it :)
[18:30] <Chousuke> level09: on linux, they're all based on cdrecord though.
[18:30] <BrainBug> hello , got a problem, i want to install xubuntu on my old pc, i put in the cd, and it loads, but at the moment it needs to mount my cdrom /dev/cdrom/cdrom0 it says "unable to mount" any suggestions?
[18:30] <funalien> Is thunderbird preinstalled in ubuntu by default?
[18:30] <simplexio> Troofy: i havent got my computer to crash over 100Mbit lan, but i dont know all tricks
[18:30] <endo> Whitor: well, where should I start with the desktop issue, my icons are gone and my background doesn't even show up. it's progressivly gotten worse to this
[18:30] <Chousuke> which is not a bad thing :)
[18:30] <level09> Chousuke: thanks
[18:30] <MrSteve> level09 I am trying to figure how I want to install a DUAL boot
[18:30] <sipior> elventear: i'm afraid i don't understand the details of how that mapping is made at boot.
[18:30] <Troofy> simplexio thanks. so you too prefer a one pc doing all?
[18:31] <level09> MrSteve: I
[18:31] <MrSteve> level09 -- good planning.. considerations..
[18:31] <level09> oops
[18:31] <identityx> Ok, a bit of a strange question, and more Windows than Ubuntu, but why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[18:31] <level09> I'm downloading a 64 bit ubuntu
[18:31] <simplexio> Troofy: just install ubuntu-desktop, compile .24.4 kernel by hand, and you are ready
[18:31] <Chousuke> level09: both Gnome and KDE come with CD authoring tools
[18:31] <Serveck> dont, theres alot of incompatibility issues with 64 bit
[18:31] <Serveck> i learned that the hard way
[18:31] <MrSteve> level09 -- gnome will get it done for you..
[18:32] <Troofy> simplexio why compile kernel.
[18:32] <level09> thanks, then I'll cancel my 64 bit download
[18:32] <funalien> Is thunderbird preinstalled in ubuntu by default?
[18:32] <rwycuff> identityx:because thats what windows does best is corrupt drivers
[18:32] <MrSteve> level09 ---- thing is, you should have Windows CD and rescue disk at hand.. and know about how tha repair and re-install might work
[18:32] <logist>  heya, can anyone help me i have searched the web and i m going crazy, i have ubuntu server on a ibm blade center hooked up to the DS3400 storage via optic fiber.. how do i mount a drive from that storage im going crazy here. using ubuntu server 7.10 x64
[18:33] <sundance_bob> Could anyone help me play .mpg files on Totem in Xubuntu? Thanks
[18:33] <simplexio> Troofy: i wouldnt prefer one pc, but if you make it right it works. and .24 beacause it gives better desktop experince with my work loads, so it should give much better experience for you
[18:33] <identityx> Any less vague ideas?
[18:33] <level09> MrSteve: is it possible that my windows will be corrupt ?
[18:33] <MrSteve> level09 well.. You may change the MBR, and need to.. fix the MBR
[18:33] <identityx> Question again:  why would booting into Ubuntu 8.04 (latest beta) on my primary NTFS via Wubi, and running "sudo ifconfig eth1 mtu 1400" cause Windows to forget or corrupt the drivers of my wireless adapter (eth1) on the next boot?
[18:33] <simplexio> Troofy: for me changing .22 to (.23 and .24) was big improvement
[18:33] <redwhitewaldo> how can i get the typing-break sub-program in "keyboard settings" to work in xubuntu?
[18:33] <Troofy> simplexio really. speed wise?
[18:34] <sipior> elventear: is your motherboard bios configured to boot from both drives?
[18:34] <BrainBug> anyone? cd xubuntu boots, but when the steps says "mounting cdrom drive" it s unable to mount...
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: latency on desktop
[18:34] <Troofy> simplexio i think you are on the latest kernel?
[18:34] <MrSteve> level09 How-to-Forge... info from this room
[18:34] <Troofy> simplexio ok. ubuntu dont give the latest i gues? currely
[18:34] <sundance_bob> Could anyone help me play .mpg files on Totem in Xubuntu? Thanks
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: ye. now latest stable .24.4
[18:34] <simplexio> Troofy: not with apt-get
[18:35] <level09> i'm reading some articles about dual boot ubuntu
[18:35] <simplexio> Troofy: 8.04 has .23 i think
[18:35] <Serveck> dual boot ubuntu is not that hard
[18:35] <Pici> simplexio: .24
[18:35] <erstazi> hello, I have followed the instructions Creative Labs OV51x at http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Main_Page but I only get: this output when running video: http://pastebin.ca/971327
[18:35] <Troofy> simplexio k. i hope. i wont get mussed up with too much load. even if i buoght a 2g dualcore
[18:35] <Serveck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:36] <level09> looks like its an easy thing to do : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype according to this
[18:36] <simplexio> Troofy: i dont think so. but best solution is use p4 as server and get dualcore for desktop
[18:36] <pcorley> yo
[18:36] <Troofy> simplexio i cant affoard that much.
[18:37] <erstazi> I cannot get past the v4l: open /dev/video0: No such file or directory or what else is in the pastebin
[18:37] <simplexio> Troofy: but second best is get dualcore to handle both roles, third is get some more ram to that p4 and try, worst is just that