[03:15] <shtylman> im trying to migrate the summary page to a plugin ... its not going well...
[03:46] <shtylman> getting there...slowly... :)


[00:05] <user_> any body want 2 play teeworlds
[00:09] <henrique> hello people
[00:13] <henrique> hello teeworlds
[00:15] <henrique> blah
[01:22] <egerlach> I've got a hedgewars game running.  The room is called Ubuntu Canada.  Let me know before you join so I can allow you.
[01:28] <genii-around> We are running behind here in Toronto, but we have a connection up :)
[01:30] <egerlach> genii-around: You want to do a KW vs TO teeworlds or nexuiz or something later?
[01:31] <genii-around> I'm asking around!
[01:31] <egerlach> Sweet.
[01:35] <BobJonkman> About to be trashed at Hedgwars -- Help me, Internets!
[01:43] <genii-around> Can you guys see the video feed OK?
[01:44] <egerlach> URL?
[01:51] <genii-around> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=1&scale=100&bitrate=50000&maxfps=29&format=swf&buffer=1000
[01:51] <genii-around> Although you can mess with the options in it like mpeg for jpeg, etc
[01:56] <egerlach> genii-around: We can seeeeeeee yooooooooooou
[01:59] <egerlach> So, hedgewars game screwed up.  Restarted now.
[01:59] <genii-around> Yay!
[01:59] <genii-around> I dunno if we have anyone here up for lan party yet, but trying
[02:17] <genii-around> How goes it in KW ?
[02:29] <egerlach> Not bad.
[03:35] <genii-around> Next to us they have started up with really really loud DJ, so we are going to wrap soon
[03:36] <genii-around> Shutting the video feed shortly to haul that box off
[07:40]  * genii-around sips some coffee
[07:44]  * ball has just downed three mugs
[13:59] <hey> any body online (probably)
[14:54] <fatrixkid24> hello people
[14:54] <dscassel> Morning, fatrixkid24 :)
[14:54] <fatrixkid24> users #ubuntu-ca
[14:55] <dscassel> You probably want /names. :)
[14:55] <fatrixkid24> hey Darcy
[14:55] <fatrixkid24> thanks
[14:56] <fatrixkid24> for some reason ubuntu 11.04 will not work on my computer
[14:56] <dscassel> Really? What goes wrong?
[14:56] <fatrixkid24> the installer will not go after the first question
[14:58] <fatrixkid24> but for some reason kubuntu 10.04 will work
[14:58] <dscassel> Are you installing kubuntu or ubuntu?
[14:58] <fatrixkid24> ubuntu
[14:58] <dscassel> k.
[14:59] <dscassel> I'd be tempted to try to figure out what's going wrong and post a bug on launchpad.  Because that sounds kind of bad.
[14:59] <dscassel> But if you just want to get it to install, you can try the alternate cd...
[14:59] <fatrixkid24> where can i get this cd
[15:01] <dscassel> http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases//11.04/
[15:01] <fatrixkid24> k
[15:01] <dscassel> You want ubuntu-11.04-alternate-amd64.iso or ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso depending on your architecture.
[15:01] <fatrixkid24> it could be that my pc is a pentium 4 2.66GHz
[15:02] <fatrixkid24> k
[15:02] <dscassel> If you don't know, you probably want i386.
[15:02] <dscassel> I'm not sure about a p4, honestly.
[15:03] <dscassel> The installer isn't nearly as pretty, but it'll get the job done.
[15:03] <dscassel> If you do post a bug about the installer, by the way, the project is calle 'ubiquity'
[15:03] <fatrixkid24> the disc you gave me yesterday at the lab was it amd64 or i386?
[15:03] <dscassel> i386.
[15:04] <fatrixkid24> k
[15:04] <dscassel> (If the architecture is wrong, it tends to let you install, but not boot).
[15:04] <dscassel> (IIRC)
[15:04] <fatrixkid24> i will download the alternate iso now but i will have to log out of irc.
[15:04] <dscassel> Okay.
[15:05] <fatrixkid24> bye
[15:05] <dscassel> Good luck. :)
[15:05] <fatrixkid24> thanks
[15:32] <fatrixkid24> im back
[15:34] <fatrixkid24> and now to install ubuntu
[15:39] <henrique24> Darcy
[15:45] <fatrixkid24> darcy
[16:00] <henrique24> I'm getting mad ubuntu will not install
[16:35] <dscassel> henrique24: :(
[16:35] <dscassel> There's a limit to how much I can help, really.
[16:35] <dscassel> You might have more luck asking on #ubuntu. There are dedicated support people there.
[16:36]  * dscassel was on the phone. :/
[16:36] <dscassel> Also, I have to go out shortly...
[16:44] <IdleOne> unfortunately Unity seems to be having a lot of install issues. I did an upgrade and did not have any problems at all. Not sure if it means I was lucky or that I have well supported hardware or maybe the upgrade process is not as buggy.
[16:45] <dscassel> IdleOne: I had a problem because my desktop doesn't support it and I had automatic login turned on.
[16:46] <dscassel> Sorted that out, tho.
[16:46] <IdleOne> our friend MagicFab is in Haiti as we speak helping setup up a school with Ubuntu/FOSS. I saw an email from him to the -qc list saying that he has experienced real world issues with Unity. he is using 10.10 instead for them.
[16:47] <IdleOne> it is a shame. like he said it does not make for a good first impression on new users.
[16:48] <dscassel> Yeah.
[16:49] <IdleOne> also the next time he leaves the country to go do something so awesome he better let me know before hand or I am going to kick his butt when he gets back :P
[16:50] <dscassel> Maybe it would have made more sense to make Unity not the default, but all the people screaming about it will help make it better.
[16:50] <dscassel> Heh. :D
[16:50] <IdleOne> double edged sword. make it default and people complain, make it an option and a lot of people won't see it.
[17:14] <IdleOne> OMG, someone says they can't boot with Live CD so I suggest trying the alternate install cd, 1 minute later someone else says they can't seem to get the alternate cd to boot :/
[17:24] <MagicFab> IdleOne, I hear ya' :)
[17:25] <IdleOne> :)


[06:46] <dubstar_04> Good morning!! Any DownloadManager experts?
[08:20] <dubstar_04> Good morning!! Any DownloadManager experts?
[08:44] <popey> dubstar_04: i think Elleo and kenvandine are the ones I'd point to :)
[08:51] <dubstar_04> popey: Thanks
[08:52] <popey> ken will be asleep right now tho
[08:52] <dubstar_04> Elleo: kenvandine: I can download items using the download manager. when i select the download in the filetransfer indicator my app opens but there doesnt seem to be a way to handle the file or tell what triggered the app to open.
[08:53] <dubstar_04> I was expecting this to be handled by the contentHub transfers. Am I missing something?
[08:54] <dubstar_04> popey: hopefully he will see it later.
[08:55] <popey> you could look at other apps which receive files like docviewer?
[08:55] <popey> or music?
[09:04] <dubstar_04> popey: doc viewer uses this: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.4/Ubuntu.Components.UriHandler/
[09:04] <dubstar_04> thanks!!
[09:21] <kalikiana_> t1mp: You need to update components.api https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/apl-header-height/+merge/298166
[09:22] <t1mp> right
[09:22] <t1mp> thanks :)
[09:26] <krampstudio> Hi, I need some help in ubuntu touch scope  development in JS.
[09:26] <krampstudio> I don't get how I can add filters to the scope
[09:28] <krampstudio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17737732/
[09:29] <krampstudio> near line 38
[09:40] <krampstudio> any appdevs?
[09:42] <rpadovani> davidcalle, ^^
[10:28] <davidcalle> krampstudio: hi, let me have a look!
[10:32] <davidcalle> krampstudio: there is a pretty good example here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/unity-js-scopes/filters_example/view/head:/examples/filters/src/filters.js
[10:32] <davidcalle> krampstudio: you can disregard lines 42>343, this part is just creating fake results to display
[10:34] <davidcalle> krampstudio: if you are still blocked with the example, try pinging marcustomlinson about it in #ubuntu-touch, he is the author of the example and maintainer of the JS api
[10:44] <krampstudio> thanks davidcalle
[10:44] <krampstudio> I'll let you know
[20:14] <Dubstar_04> kenvandine: are you about?
[20:14] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, yup, what's up?
[20:14] <Dubstar_04> I was wondering if you could help me with some contenthub stuff?
[20:15] <kenvandine> sure
[20:16] <Dubstar_04> I would like to get the 'real' filename of the file being received in onImportRequested:
[20:16] <Dubstar_04> is that possible?
[20:17] <Dubstar_04> the transfer url seems to have extra formatting in.
[20:17] <kenvandine> what do you mean by "real"
[20:17] <kenvandine> it's just a QUrl
[20:18] <Dubstar_04> so the 'real' filename would be 'myawesomefile.ext'
[20:18] <kenvandine> ok
[20:19] <kenvandine> QUrl provides api for that kind of thing, but I don't think it's exposed via qml
[20:19] <Dubstar_04> the url.toString() gives the path to the file but the filename is /myawesomefile_-_3289892383879.ext
[20:20] <kenvandine> it would probably be safe to split on '/' an use the end
[20:20] <Dubstar_04> it would be cool if i could do url.fileName and i get the real filename
[20:21] <Dubstar_04> or transfer.items[i].fileName
[20:21] <kenvandine> the fileName is usually not very useful without the path
[20:21] <kenvandine> but i guess for display ?
[20:22] <Dubstar_04> I want to open the file in my app and display the correct name. the user can then save the file if they wish.
[20:22] <kenvandine> you could look at filemanager-app to see what they do for parsing paths/files
[20:24] <Dubstar_04> i could regex it but if some crazy person uses _-_ in the filename i could end up with all sorts of weird results?
[20:24] <kenvandine> it should be safe to just split on '/'
[20:25] <kenvandine> a filename won't have that
[20:25] <kenvandine> then use the last item in the array
[20:26] <Dubstar_04> this is the url file:///home/phablet/.cache/design.marthamengineering/HubIncoming/1/JamesLineCircle_-_360808331247353977.dxf
[20:27] <kenvandine> right
[20:27] <kenvandine> split('/')
[20:27] <Dubstar_04> the original filename was JamesLineCircle.dxf
[20:27] <kenvandine> oh...
[20:28] <kenvandine> contenthub didn't add the _-_360808331247353977
[20:28] <Dubstar_04> oh
[20:28] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, content-hub itself doesn't change the file name
[20:28] <kenvandine> the app creating the transfer must be
[20:28] <Dubstar_04> kenvandine: double oh
[20:28] <Dubstar_04> maybe this is coming from telegram then?
[20:29] <kenvandine> has to be
[20:29] <Dubstar_04> I have been sharing files using telegram and opening them from there.
[20:29] <kenvandine> content-hub isn't doing it
[20:29] <Dubstar_04> great!! simple solution.
[20:29] <kenvandine> :)
[20:29] <Dubstar_04> thanks.
[20:29] <Dubstar_04> next question;
[20:29] <kenvandine> np
[20:30] <Dubstar_04> do items clicked in the filetransfer indicator go through content hub?
[20:30] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, depends :)
[20:30] <kenvandine> downloads from the browser?
[20:30] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, the answer is not automatically
[20:31] <Dubstar_04> so i use downloadmanager to download a file. when its complete i want to click the item in the indicator, it opens my app but i dont know how to handle it.
[20:32] <Dubstar_04> no browser involved.
[20:32] <kenvandine> i think your app would need to create the transfer as well as the download and reference them
[20:32] <kenvandine> Elleo, ^^
[20:33] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, Elleo had done that work
[20:33] <kenvandine> the transfer object can have the download ID
[20:33]  * kenvandine doesn't remember how it works :)
[20:34] <Dubstar_04> Yeah its not clear in the docs and i can't find any examples.
[20:34] <kenvandine> i'm actually not sure if that is available in the QML API
[20:34] <kenvandine> it was done for the browser
[20:47] <Dubstar_04> kenvandine: thankyou.
[20:47] <kenvandine> Dubstar_04, sorry i couldn't help more, Elleo will be around in the morning
[20:49] <Dubstar_04> kenvandine: you have been a lot of help.


[17:51] <baw_> does anyone know where a linux user in Grants Pass can get some local help?
[17:51] <wxl> baw_: can't say i do, but would be happy to help remotely
[17:53] <baw_> my ex wife has a Linux laptop & she can no longer connect to the web - she has a brain injury & is pretty much computer illiterate but does email & a bit of facebook...
[17:54] <wxl> oh man, yeah, that's probably something that would require help in person
[17:54] <wxl> you might want to try pinging the mailing list. we're a little more active there
[17:54] <baw_> Closest LUG I can find is Eugene
[17:54] <wxl> yeah..
[17:54] <wxl> you might also try cali too
[17:54] <baw_> & I'm in New Zealand :-(
[17:54] <wxl> someone might be willing to hop across the border


 thanks jbicha
[02:08] <guiverc> lubuntu release notes don't mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/2000787 ; is that worthy of listing??
[02:08] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2000787 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Live system cannot leave 'Lock Screen' when selected from menu" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[02:08] <guiverc> i also mention fonts change in mantic-status-tracker (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-mantic-minotaur-23-10-issue-tracker/4462) & didn't mention that either
[03:21] <guiverc> i've adapted release notes to be 'beta'  (paragraph near top; title change) AND a 'Known Issues (beta) section' which we can adjust...    I'm thinking here of discourse post mostly in change..
[03:23] <guiverc> and added "<!-- BETA -->" so those details can be found (more easily)
[03:31]  * guiverc has made a few changes to release notes; largely top, installation/download (covering beta) & Known Issues (beta) list
[03:31] <guiverc> thanks Walter/wxl for updating contribs..  I'd appreciate required changes being made, and any feedback (looks good is fine)
[03:32]  * guiverc isn't looking for feedback directly, mostly it was looked at & no issues seen!
[06:00] <guiverc> Thanks @kgiii, I just noted you alreary CONFIRMED a bug I was going to check is an issue today; I don't have to so thanks !
 my box locked up whilst editing mantic notes on lubuntu.me;  there maybe an unfinished/unclean <!— comment or whatever I was writing;  i'll look & fix when I can..  another beta only (related to manual links I think; ie. 23.10 will only point after actual release, not beta)
[08:18] <guiverc> i planned on getting testing-checklist modified for mantic given beta has appeared on iso.qa; alas out of time (for now anyway)
[08:18] <guiverc> thanks @Leokolb & kgiii for testing; REALLY APPRECIATED !
 and thanks to you @guiverc for testing and a whole lot more!!
[12:09] <jbicha> btw, I recommend SRUing the lubuntu-default-settings DesktopNames fix to Jammy & even Focal. There is talk of someday backporting newer versions of xdg-desktop-portal so that Snaps & Flatpaks can do all the things
 Kay. Thanks.


[12:59] <superos_ux31> Why does Ubuntu Forums only allow 2 moderators per LoCo forum? That is way too few.
[19:32] <Iconic> #ubuntu-us-fl
[21:04] <pleia2> g 52
[21:04] <pleia2> doh
[21:04]  * pleia2 waves


[21:48] <douglasawh-work> how do I tell dhclient not to change my domain?  I do want it to continue to change the DNS servers though
[22:59] <nickmoeck> douglasawh-work: you go up to dhclient and you say "HEY! DON'T CHANGE MY DOMAIN!"
[23:26] <douglasawh-work> nickmoeck: you can sorta do that in dhclient.conf I discovered
[23:53] <douglasawh-work> basically, this is what I want to do: http://pastebin.com/P1yz330a
[23:53] <douglasawh-work> only, I want to do it on Linux
[23:53] <douglasawh-work> oh, I left out the step of ipconfig /registerdns
[23:53] <nickmoeck> douglasawh-work: Um... don't you set the domain in /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:55] <nickmoeck> or, with dhclient, with the domain-search directive?
[23:57] <douglasawh-work> yeah, the domain is set
[23:57] <douglasawh-work> but it's not updating DNS


[01:37] <Guest92197> Hello Guys!
[01:38] <Guest92197> Nelesh?
[01:38] <Guest92197> Nekhelesh
[01:38] <Guest92197> Enna pannange
[10:39] <ssss> hhh
[10:40] <ssss> qdd
[16:56] <juggalo068> will ubuntu 14.10 web apps work with flash player
[18:30] <rudgan2> now i can talk to myself


[00:58] <ibmr50e> which website is official?? lubuntu net or lubuntu me?
[00:58] <tsimonq2> lubuntu.me
[00:59] <tsimonq2> We're currently in the process of getting the other one back
[01:00] <bobsmith> wxl?
[01:03] <wxl> yes bobsmith
[01:05] <bobsmith> yo! lets just say i want to put 3 different OS's on on HDD.  How would I partition that? which partitions to make primary? does it even matter?
[01:05] <wxl> you got to find the lowest common denominator. if they all have the same requirements, then it doesn't matter.
[01:07] <bobsmith> ok.  when I installed the first, I followed that ubuntu guide and the only primary partition is swap.  that doesnt matter either?  i already asked you this, didnt I?
[01:09] <bobsmith> the last time I did multiple boot, I had a root partition get filled up when downloading a bunch of developer stuff which turned into GB's...  stuff for building my own image files, compiling from source, etc.  way over my head
[01:09] <wxl> yep
[01:10] <wxl> remember that the MBR format is limited to 4 partitions
[01:10] <bobsmith> lol.  alreighty, yup.  sorry to bother you about it again.  You did give me some reading homework, and I haven;t gotten to all of it yet...
[01:11] <bobsmith> the moral of the first story, is dont download to the root!
[01:11] <ibmr50e> yo you guys will make lubuntu forum?
[01:12] <bobsmith> it was a script, so i didnt know where it was downloading until i found root filled to the gills.
[01:12] <wxl> ibmr50e: i believe there are some lubuntu forums on the ubuntu forums. i generally don't bother with forums. the mailing list is there, though.
[01:13] <ibmr50e> on ubuntu forums they only have some weird tagging system
[01:13] <ibmr50e> ill try facebook groups thought hehe
[01:14] <bobsmith> thanks agian, wxl.  till next time. (when I have some fresh questions for ya ;)
[01:17] <ibmr50e> you guys have marketing galleries but aint sellin nothin?
[01:18] <wxl> you mean our promotional images?
[01:18] <wxl> i.e. lenny, our mascot?
[01:18] <ibmr50e> ye ye
[01:18] <wxl> yep not selling anything
[01:19] <ibmr50e> there are t-shirt images but no things for sell? or i cnt find
[01:19] <wxl> oh yeah, nope, not for sale
[01:19] <ibmr50e> so how you make monies
[01:19] <wxl> you can use that to get someone to print one for you
[01:19] <wxl> we don't
[01:20] <ibmr50e> these ubuntu guys even sell cycling bibs hehe
[01:20] <ibmr50e> you guys real OG though not sellin
[01:24] <ibmr50e> i dont like this mpPaint app you include guys
[01:25] <ibmr50e> i dont know how to do things, and translation is horrible
[01:25] <ibmr50e> you guys know an equivalent?
[01:26] <wxl> there's nothing else that's as lightweight
[01:27] <wxl> you could always use gimp
[01:27] <ibmr50e> some guys recommend pinta ill try that
[01:27] <ibmr50e> gimp too heavy i think
[01:29] <ibmr50e> im reading your Lubuntu Meeting - April 2017
[01:29] <ibmr50e> so you guys dropped alsa?
[01:30] <ibmr50e> not cool by mozilla not cool
[01:37] <lynorian> yeah it was mozillas decision not ours but sound with firefox is improtant for say anyone wanted to watch youtube videos or podcasts on a website or other things.
[02:27] <bobsmith> wxl- you're probably ready to shoot me, but... thinking i will change /home partition from primary to logical... then get on with laying out more logical partitions.  but how to change from primary to logical? I was reading up on "FixParts" but ...
[02:28] <bobsmith> it put me to sleep
[02:28] <bobsmith> I am at the coffee shop... maybe I need caffine...
[10:22] <markscurvyfox> hey there all
[10:22] <markscurvyfox> I have one question regarding Lubuntu
[10:23] <markscurvyfox> Does Lubuntu 17.10 ships with LXQt environment? If not, will v18 do?
[10:56] <ibmr50e> yo lubuntu guys
[10:56] <ibmr50e> you only provide lightweight software and its great okay
[10:56] <ibmr50e> but firefox is a default browser, is it really light enough?
[11:08] <ibmr50e> and btw. audacious runs great, why did you guys decide to add it?
[22:17] <ibmr50e> yo lubuntu guys
[22:17] <tsimonq2> hey
[22:17] <ibmr50e> you now share GNOME software center with ubuntu right
[22:17] <tsimonq2> yep
[22:18] <ibmr50e> ye but it looks weird cause there are many GNOME addons and GNOME things inside
[22:18] <ibmr50e> and im never sure if they're compatibile
[22:52] <tannedin> new here... accidently joined the dev channel... but trying to figure out an odd issue if anyone is available
[22:55] <tsimonq2> !question | tannedin
[22:55] <tsimonq2> :)
[22:59] <tannedin> my current lubuntu install is starting about half of its services or human interacted application launch.  For example: bar shortcut for firefox, desktop shortcut, or command line for 'firefox' has no result.  Attempted installing "Chromium" with the same problem.  Terminal opens from desktop shortcut.  GUI package managers do not, however apt and aptitude work.
[23:02] <ibmr50e> how old is this install?
[23:03] <tannedin> been having it running and updated for about a year.  last manual update was about two weeks ago, have automatic updates disabled
[23:04] <test112456> Does anybody know where to find themes for lubuntu?
[23:05] <tsimonq2> test112456: You'd just be looking for LXDE themes and/or GTK themes.
[23:05] <test112456> I just search for those?
[23:06] <tsimonq2> Yes.
[23:06] <test112456> ok thanks
[23:06] <tsimonq2> np
[23:08] <tannedin> other details: firefox via the command line has zero output.  ps aux | grep firefox only returns the process query.  tried moving the .mozilla folder, uninstall with a purge, and reinstalling... still nothing...
[23:09] <tsimonq2> Not sure tannedin
[23:09] <tsimonq2> wxl?
[23:17] <wxl> yessss?
[23:23] <wxl> is you're asking me about tannedin i would suggest tracing the processes. SOMETHING is breaking. perhaps too little memory or something?
[23:26] <tannedin> strace firefox and strace synaptic spit out about 10 terminal pages worth of sand that i'm sifting through. was hoping for something a bit less... labour intensive, but if thats what needs to be done.  thanks for the help
[23:40] <anyon> a


[14:02] <vulcan> RIP Slack for Ubuntu it seems :(
[14:02] <vulcan> Also Slack on Mobile
[18:05] <paddatrapper> vulcan: slack is having global issues - https://status.slack.com/2018-06/142edcb9e52c7663


[06:03] <futurebug> So I've got a laptop with Kubuntu on it. I just use for watching movies / series in bed. Whenever it goes in standby I have to enter the password when I wake it up. Is there anyway to make it so that I don't need to enter the password every time?
[06:05] <Alabalistic> yes
[06:05] <Alabalistic> power management
[06:07] <Alabalistic> I did change in XFCE, can't realy check it, but, press the super key, and type power
[06:07] <Alabalistic> check settings, if you don't find it, try lock and you will find it
[06:07] <valorie> if you don't want to have to login, you can make it autologin
[06:08] <valorie> not smart if you use it for travel though
[06:09] <RikMills> The setting is in the screen locking preferences
[06:10] <RikMills> https://i.imgur.com/j1MGGWY.png
[06:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:20] <Alabalistic> hi
[06:41] <isaacjb> eyo?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[16:06] <uludag> iojipokop
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[17:27] <uludag> hello
[18:52] <Thr0r> HI! I have 4 virtual desktops/Workspaces or what you like to call it.. I had named them all with names that explained what they should contain. But now the names have been reverted by the OS or something and is just called "desktop 1-4" .. Why!?
[18:57] <Thr0r> ..actually - The first workspace has kept it's name - the rest has been renamed..
[20:41] <marcofe> hello everybody
[21:32] <marcofe> hi everybody
 Hey there, My Laptop is shutting down when I open the lid. Where yould the problem be?
[22:04] <valorie> that sounds opposite of what you want!
[22:04] <valorie> @bauchhaus
[22:04] <valorie> I would check the power settings
[22:04] <valorie> perhaps they got changed somehow
 It works fine if I switch it off, but If I don't switch it of but just close the lid it kind of suspends (i think), but then instead of waking up it will switch off once I open the lid.
 (Photo, 875x1007) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5uaHkRpv/file_16268.jpg
[22:06] <valorie> crazy
[22:07] <valorie> could it have low battery?
 are there any logs or so which could help me finding the issue?
[22:07] <valorie> some have said that it doesn't really suspend for them, so it runs down the battery
[22:07] <valorie> I'm sure there are but I don't know where they might be
 could be a problem as well. I have it connected to AC most of the time
 I just want it to be quiet at night
 and it would be nice to just open the lid and continue working....
[22:10] <valorie> I usually just right-click on the desktop of my travel lappy to suspend when I'm done, because I want to unplug if it's plugged
[22:10] <valorie> but I never have a problem waking it
[22:11] <valorie> this big laptop is almost always plugged in and I basically never turn if off
 Just tried it. Right click on desktop: suspend.
 Works
 Closing lid: nothing happens. Good
 Opening lid: fans go nuts! Computer reboots
[22:14] <valorie> oh dear
[22:14] <valorie> that sounds very wrong
[22:14] <valorie> buggy, actually
[22:14] <valorie> but I don't know what might be buggy
[22:15] <valorie> systemd?
 in dmesg if have a million of those lines: … cma: cma_alloc: alloc failed, req-size: 1 pages, ret: -12
[22:17] <Thr0r> You have to update your firmware on your laptop - it's working the opposite way of what is supposed to do.. The "close lid" signal is out of order it seems..
[22:22] <valorie> good point, Thr0r
[22:22] <valorie> @bauchhaus -- how old is your install, and do you regularly update/full-upgrade ?
[22:22] <valorie> or via Discover, whatever/however
[22:26] <Thr0r> I have seen this "IrcsomeBot" all over the place here on IRC - I don't know if it's a fake account or not..  I have only been here for a short time thogh..
[22:57] <valorie> it is the bot that carries messages from Telegram groups that are connected to various IRC channels and back again
[22:58] <valorie> quite useful if you are away from your keyboard since telegram works well on phones
[22:58] <valorie> so not a fake account but another bot
[22:59] <valorie> in *buntu channels you will see bots like ubottu, logbot, etc.
[22:59] <valorie> !info discover
[22:59] <valorie> ubottu answers queries like above
[22:59] <valorie> ha
[23:00] <valorie> logbot logs the channels which you can find on the web
[23:00] <valorie> some look for spammers and stop them spamming
[23:00] <valorie> etc.
[23:20] <Thr0r> valorie: Thanks for his lesson - much valued. I am SO new to all this an learning. Right now I was searching for the word "appriciate" to send to you - but not regonized in my dictionary.
[23:20] <valorie> well, I appreciate the good questions!
[23:20] <valorie> so thank you
[23:21] <valorie> there are some that may be too shy to ask so you help them too
[23:25] <Thr0r> Ok - "recognize with gratitude; be grateful for" --was what I was looking for.. Thanks (And yes - 265 nicks here logged in so you would be pretty busy if everyone asked as much as me :)  )
[23:55] <valorie> ha


[10:46] <dvora> i have internet problems- i have lubuntu 14.04, and in the last few weeks every few minutes/ hours (randomly!) my nm-applet stops seeing any networks. when i disable and then enable i goes back to working perfectly, for some time... what can couse that?
[10:53] <phillw> dvora: network issues are a nightmare... head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 and read the 2nd sticky. Feel free to ask on there as all the *buntu family share the same system for networking.
[11:18] <testdr> dvora: nm-applet dropout for wireless or cable-connected internet?
[11:19] <dvora> testdr: wireless
[11:21] <testdr> dvora: if it was OK for some time(weeks/month) before - there can be changes in the signal-strength. Check if other wlan-nets appear, if your wlan is not the only one.
[11:22] <testdr> dvora: and for the time of the network-dropouts, check /var/log/syslog* (some older are compressed) to get some information when it happens and what error/info-messages are there
[11:25] <testdr> dvora: and last you have to check, that it is not any hardware-failure. That might happen if hardware "gets older". Signal-strength may be lost and so on and you can check this if you have other hardware (with same software), that has not such dropouts.
[11:31] <dvora> testdr: tanx.it's not the strangth of the connection. it stops seeing all network available (including all the nets of my neighbors)
[11:40] <testdr> dvora: if it is a laptop, then it could be some hardware-fault and you can check this if you get a wlan-usb-stick and disable the built-in-wlan. If it is a desktop-pc with wlan-usb-stick, same: you can check with another one.  Last point could be someone is trying to intrude your system and breaks it - but i would first check hardware.
[11:42] <testdr> dvora: did forget - you can run (in a terminal) a constant ping to your internet-hub/router of your local net to make shure it does not happen from some power-saving-settings. If power-saving enabled the network should be re-connected after power-saving - but if not, this is like the network will be dead, because the hardware was not re-initialized after power-saving-level
[11:44] <testdr> dvora: if you still have the ubuntu-live-iso, then you should boot this and verify that its not some special user-settings (power-saving) that does not re-enable the hardware. Just run the ubuntu-live-system for some hours (browsing the internet and so on).
[11:46] <dvora> testdr: it's a laptop. i don't have wlan-usb-stick, i'll try to get one and check it. i don't think it's a power saving think- because it happens sometimes while i use the computer
[11:49] <testdr> dvora: then test it with a constant ping running in an terminal, like "ping -i 1 <IP_ADDRESS>"  -- you have to set the ip of your home-router. That will send pakets every second and you see the output in the terminal and you will see when it will fail.
[11:51] <testdr> dvora: if - with this constant 1second ping - the connection will not fail, then its some other reason
[11:57] <dvora> testdr: ok, so i try that. so to be sure, if the connection still fails, what would that mean? and what will it mean if it doesn't..?
[12:00] <testdr> dvora: it could be your wlan-router, that is dropping the signal-strength - maybe if there is inactivity - did you have wlan-dropout during some longer downloads (like during ubuntu-updates or download of iso-live-images)?
[12:04] <dvora> testdr: i haven't tried. but it can happen when i download torrent files for example... it can happes even while i surf
[12:05] <dvora> testdr: now i'm downloading ubuntu updates and so far so good. but it's really random i think
[12:11] <testdr> dvora: check the messages in /var/log/syslog for those droppouts. No messages? Btw. if you have cable available and not to far from your router, this is a way to get a working connection if the reason could not be found.
[12:17] <dvora> testdr:  i don't have a cable. maybe i should buy one... there are massages in the syslog, just not sure what they mean.... i can send you the syslog
[12:20] <testdr> dvora: use the pastebin for such things and post the link to the text there
[12:20] <testdr> dvora: lookup pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <dvora> testdr: at 12:59 i had a dropout, and at 13:15 i saw that and disabled-enabled the networkmanager to fix that. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8342491/
[12:36] <testdr> dvora: did you read: http://askubuntu.com/questions/465848/frequent-deauthentication-from-wifi-reason-6-in-ubuntu-14-04
[12:43] <testdr> dvora: only to make shure, that wlan "tishuwantsplay" is yours?
[12:44] <testdr> dvora: you got last question?
[12:46] <dvora> testdr: i just had this drop-out. i saw the link you sent, i'll try that
[12:46] <testdr> dvora: last question was: Is this wlan "tishuwansplay" yours?
[12:49] <dvora> testdr: thats the name of my network
[12:50] <testdr> dvora: ok - then you can lookup the mac-address and where the disconnect happens - its seems at the point where the scurity-handshake is done again with your wlan-router and this handshake fails
[12:53] <testdr> dvora: this is from your pasted output of syslog - and it may be that this handshake will work for some time and suddenly could not be established again - could be hardware or bad signal-strength (some other hardware around may jam your connection) - it could help to change the wlan-encryption, but you should only try this, after you got a cable to connect to your router, because if you misconfigure your wlan-settings, this is the only way to reach your rout
[13:02]  * RedDeath Back
[13:02] <dvora> testdr: so i'll get a cable, and see if that helps
[13:03]  * RedDeath Back
[13:04]  * RedDeath Back
[22:00] <Gassho> how do i see how much juice my laptop has left?
[22:26] <ianorlin> Gasshoo which version of Lubuntu do oyu not see a battery icon?