[00:46] <RedAshes> I just wanted to say, hoping some of the people who worked on it might be in here, that kubuntu, linux, and ubuntu, are the most loveable software I've ever used.  That it is free is unbelievable, & I appreciate all the FOR FREE work that has been done on this software, so that I can use it now, having contributed nothing, and paid nothing!
[00:47] <RedAshes> I am probably mis-informed about linux, but a free operating system, for the most advanced tech, can't be beaten.
[01:01] <prower> hello everyone :> would someone be able to run a uname -a for me in ubuntu 11.10? i need to see if the current kernel is the version that fixes the "safely eject" kernel panic
[01:02] <valorie> prower, $ uname -a
[01:02] <valorie> Linux valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:02] <valorie> just upgraded the kernel today
[01:03] <prower> thank you that looks like it should be the one with the fix...i hope :>
[01:04] <RedAshes> how can I tell if my computer is 64 bit or 32 bit?
[01:04] <Torch> RedAshes: what CPU does it have?
[01:04] <RedAshes> I don't know.. it is a dell latitude d830
[01:05] <RedAshes> but I don't know wat the hardware is
[01:05] <RedAshes> ubuntu 32 bit works
[01:05] <Torch> RedAshes: 32 bit works on 64 but not the other way round
[01:05] <Nineain> (Ohh wooaahhh) x3
[01:05] <Nineain> You know you love me
[01:05] <Nineain> I know you care
[01:05] <Nineain> Just shout whenever,
[01:05] <Nineain> And I'll be there
[01:05] <Nineain> You want my love
[01:05] <Nineain> You want my heart
[01:05] <Nineain> And we would never, ever, ever be apart
[01:05] <RedAshes> but it syas on dell's site that this comp supports 64 bit, & 64 bit works fine on here, but I still don't know
[01:06] <Nineain> Are we an item?
[01:06] <Nineain> Girl quit playin'
[01:06] <Nineain> We're just friends,
[01:06] <Nineain> What are you sayin'?
[01:06] <Nineain> Said there's another as you look right in my eyes
[01:06] <Nineain> My first love, broke my heart for the first time
[01:06] <Nineain> And I was like
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby ooh
[01:06] <Nineain> Like
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby noo
[01:06] <Nineain> Like
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby ohh
[01:06] <Nineain> I thought you'd always be mine (mine)
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby ohh
[01:06] <Nineain> Like
[01:06] <RedAshes> i used 64 bit linux on this comp and it worked, but I couldn't install the same software from package system, so I went back to 32 bit so that the package system would let me get the software I wanted
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby noo
[01:06] <Nineain> Like
[01:06] <Nineain> Baby, baby, baby ohh
[01:06] <Nineain> I thought you'd always be mine (mine)
[01:07] <Nineain> I'm gone
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeah, yeah
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeahhh
[01:07] <Nineain> Now I'm all gone
[01:07] <[nyan]> flooooooooood :D
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeah, yeah
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeahhh
[01:07] <Nineain> Now I'm all gone
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeah, yeah
[01:07] <Nineain> Yeahh, yeahhh
[01:07] <Nineain> Now I'm all gone, gone, gone, gone
[01:07] <[nyan]> animo Nineain acabala enterita (?)
[01:07] <Nineain> I'm gone
[01:07] <TheTrash> If any 64bit software works, your computer is 64bit. Besides, your dell has a Core2Duo which is definitely 64bit.
[01:07] <RedAshes> not all the same software is available in the 64 bit ubuntu
[01:07] <Torch> RedAshes: for example?
[01:07] <RedAshes> this is why I switched back to 32 from 63
[01:08] <RedAshes> 64*
[01:08] <RedAshes> I was trying to install ZSNES from apt-get command line..
[01:08] <RedAshes> but it would REMOVE many programs like VLC and other emulators
[01:08] <RedAshes> as well as libraries
[01:08] <RedAshes> so I couldn't let the process continue
[01:08] <RedAshes> but when I switched to 32 bit
[01:08] <RedAshes> ZSNES installs without interfering with other software
[01:08] <RedAshes> the package system on 64 bit is fucked up
[01:09] <Torch> RedAshes: no it's not. it's working just fine.
[01:09] <RedAshes> i could paste it for you but... that would require reinstaling my system
[01:09] <DarthFrog> !language
[01:09] <RedAshes> I don't know enough to say it, but when I tried to install ZSNES, it would remove VLC
[01:09] <RedAshes> and other libraries
[01:10] <RedAshes> this is why i went back to 32 bit even though my computer supports 64 bit
[01:10] <RedAshes> just for the software package system
[01:10] <Torch> RedAshes: you're right, there's a problem with zsnes
[01:11] <RedAshes> ZSNES on the 64 bit apt-get command... it removes the multimedia programs you have as well as emulators like mupen64
[01:11] <Torch> RedAshes: yes, it does. there's no 64 bit version and the 32 bit version depends on too many other 32 bit libraries.
[01:12] <RedAshes> I am currently using 32 bit and when I installed zsnes from command line it worked with no problems and installed only 1 package, zsnes.
[01:12] <RedAshes> with 64 bit it removes many packages and installs several others
[01:13] <RedAshes> plus, in 64 bit Lucid Lynx, it is posisble to get snes9x-gtk, but in 64 bit 11.10, snes9x-gtk is unavailable, & zsnes is the only option;
[01:14] <RedAshes> also, in lynx, zsnes installs fine with 64 bit,
[01:14] <RedAshes> it is with the newest version that this problem occurs
[01:14] <RedAshes> it tells you in the old one that zsnes is not available in 64 bit
[02:05] <dnivra> hello. where can find the option to "disable touchpad while typing" in KDE?
[02:10] <holstein> dnivra: maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/46299/how-to-disable-touchpad-tapping-when-typing-on-keyboard
[02:13] <dnivra> holstein: i do have the package installed but do not find the option.
[02:14] <holstein> this is an oldie :) http://www.cranked.me/2008/05/how-to-disable-touchpad-while-typing-in.html
[02:15] <holstein> i would try that manually, and see if it still works... the startup will be different i think
[02:16] <dnivra> before I try this, I should ask you. this seems to disable touchpad. what I actually want is my touchpad to work-it freezes when the charger is plugged in.
[02:17] <dnivra> i was following suggestions from http://askubuntu.com/questions/82133/trackpad-freezes-on-ubuntu-11-10-often
[02:20] <dnivra> my original question -> I am using kubuntu 11.10(completely updated) on a sony vaio vgnfw260j. I recently purchased a new charger for my laptop and ever since then I cannot use the touchpad when the laptop is charging-it freezes intermittently. it works fine when the battery is discharging. how can I fix this issue?
[02:20] <holstein> dnivra: i was trying to disable the touchpad while typing... for errors like that, i would google the model and look for a bug
[02:20] <holstein> sometimes you can find patches
[02:21] <dnivra> one of the suggestions was the disable touchpad and that's why my first question. thanks for the answer to that holstein.
[02:21] <dnivra> i'll try it out but isn't there a GUI method to do it. do you have it on your machine?
[02:22] <holstein> dnivra: i dont have KDE on my machine ;)
[02:22] <dnivra> bummer.
[02:22] <holstein> i would just look for a general way to do it, like that 8.04 link suggests
[02:22] <holstein> something that wont matter
[02:22] <holstein> i would try some different live CD's and see if the issue is still ther
[02:23] <holstein> e
[02:23] <holstein> i would consider trying a mainline kernel, or running the LTS
[02:23] <dnivra> here's soemthing funny-i don't have an Xorg.conf. I have an Xorg.conf.failsafe though.
[02:24] <holstein> dnivra: you can put on in place if needed
[02:25] <dnivra> okay.
[02:25] <holstein> put one*
[02:47] <dnivra> holstein: well the X server started but my touchpad is still not working.
[02:47] <dnivra> holstein:
[02:47] <holstein> dnivra: i thought you wanted to disable it?
[02:48] <holstein> what broke it? the xorg.conf?
[02:48] <dnivra> i am guessing so-guess what I added wasn't exactly correct.
[02:50] <dnivra> my issue is that my touchpad doesn't work when I plug my charger. the click functions work fine but the movement doesn't.
[02:50] <holstein> dnivra: its goint to be fiddly... i would try some different live CD's
[02:51] <dnivra> live cd's aren't something I can get my hands on right now :(.
[02:51] <holstein> note what kernel you are using if one seems to work well
[02:51] <holstein> dnivra: you can make USB sticks... whatever you do
[02:51] <dnivra> true but I do not have ISO's right now and on a low bandwidth connection.
[02:52] <holstein> cool
[02:52] <holstein> then, you'll just have to tweak that xorg.conf file
[02:52] <holstein> just know how to rescue the system, and all is well
[02:52] <dnivra> funny thing is that the touchpad works fine when the charger is unplugged but not when plugged.
[02:53] <dnivra> is this rescue method fine-boot into recovery and remove the conf file. that's what i did last time.
[02:53] <holstein> dnivra: yup.. or just rename it... whatever works for you
[02:55] <dnivra> holstein: is this xorg.conf correct as per the link you gave me? http://paste.kde.org/157598/
[02:56] <holstein> dnivra: yeah, but i thought there was more to it?
[02:56] <holstein> anyways.. you can search around in some other potentially more busy buntu channels too
[02:57] <holstein> you need an x pro
[02:57] <dnivra> ah okay. i didn't get any response from #ubuntu on my original issue.
[02:57] <dnivra> think I'll try my luck there again. thanks holstein!
[02:58] <holstein> dnivra: anytime! good luck
[06:08] <adrian_berg> Gwenview needs to have its plugins at the share prompt
[06:09] <adrian_berg> Not in Plugins -> export
[06:09] <adrian_berg> ...in Gwenview
[07:19] <phoenix_firebrd> need a USB  boot disk creator which will accept windows images too
[11:36] <dmatt> is there terminal based alternative for update natty->oneiric ?
[11:37] <szal> !do-release-upgrade
[11:38] <dmatt> isn't that only for ubuntu?
[11:38] <szal> why should it be any different for Kubuntu?
[11:38] <szal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[11:39] <dmatt> if it is same, why synaptic does not offer me upgrade?
[11:39] <dmatt> kpackagekit failed for me on two upgrades, i would like to have something more reliable for my main system
[11:40] <szal> you asked for a way on the terminal, I gave you one, where's the problem?
[11:40] <dmatt> szal: sorry, i did not mean to be rude, thank you for the help
[11:41] <dmatt> i am just little bit frustrated with official recommended way to upgrade
[11:45] <dmatt> and i am trying to understand where is the difference between various upgrade methods
[12:05] <dmatt> is there any theoretical difference between do-release-upgrade and upgrading through kpackageit?
[12:42] <manuel_> hello there =)
[12:44] <manuel_> could some one help me please? i'm new at linux using
[12:45] <rork> !ask | manuel_
[12:48] <christopher> question: I have hp eb 8740w i5 8g ram i am getting errors installing 64b of kubuntu is there something special i need for my setup
[12:49] <ikonia> christopher: what are the errors
[12:49] <christopher> error reading line 2 .. then it starts spitting out numbers
[12:50] <ikonia> at what point ?
[12:50] <christopher> and letters ...one per line for about 20 lines then sits there
[12:50] <christopher> as soon as it loaad the cd
[12:50] <ikonia> christopher: do you get into the gui ? or is it before that
[12:50] <christopher> before that
[12:51] <ikonia> christopher: ok, so it's either a kernel panic, or it's a bad CD burn
[12:51] <christopher> i was not sure if i had gotten a bad copy
[12:51] <christopher> ok..
[12:51] <ikonia> christopher: my suggestion would be to download the alternative install CD and try that
[12:51] <ikonia> christopher: we should be able to progress from there
[12:51] <christopher> is there a another place to get kubuntu besides the site
[12:51] <ikonia> it sounds more like a kernel panic
[12:51] <ikonia> christopher: get the alternative install CD
[12:52] <christopher> what is on that?
[12:52] <ikonia> christopher: the same as the normal CD
[12:53] <manuel_> i've got a question: i need an instant messenger to use my icq account. kompete is out of date
[12:53] <szal> only it's not a live CD, it's purely an installer
[12:53] <ikonia> manuel_: empathy ?
[12:53] <manuel_> my system is an powerbook g3 lombard
[12:53] <ikonia> oh dear
[12:53] <ikonia> manuel_: the PPC ports are really unmaintained
[12:53] <christopher> thanks IK
[12:53] <manuel_> ikonia where i can get empathy?
[12:54] <manuel_> hmm =(
[12:54] <ikonia> manuel_: you may find problems getting current "stable "software
[12:54] <ikonia> manuel_: it should be in the repo, but with the PPC ports, I don't know
[12:54] <manuel_> i use kubuntu 6.06
[12:54] <ikonia> manuel_: doubtful then
[12:54] <szal> 6.06 is dead
[12:54] <manuel_> its the only system that runs well on my old pb g3 lombard
[12:55] <ikonia> manuel_: probably because that system is a "dead" system now in terms of achitechture
[12:55] <manuel_> is there any way to get iqc air work on kubuntu 6?
[12:55] <manuel_> =(
[12:56] <manuel_> yes i know =( ppc will die =(
[12:57] <manuel_> kubuntu 10 would work on my machine, but runs really slooow =(
[12:58] <manuel_> and with ubuntu 10.04 emphaty works. but its too slow for me =(
[12:58] <ikonia> manuel_: this is the limitations of you setup sadly
[12:58] <manuel_> is there no way to get an actual instant messenger?
[12:58] <ikonia> manuel_: the old stuff is unmaintained, and no new stuff is being back ported, the new stuff is too slow
[12:58] <ikonia> manuel_: pidgin is included in 6.06
[12:59] <manuel_> yes?
[12:59] <manuel_> where can i find it?
[12:59] <ikonia> manuel_: or "gaim" as it used to be called
[12:59] <ikonia> manuel_: pidgin is an IM client, again, in the repos
[12:59]  * szal doubts that Pidgin will be more up-to-date in 6.06
[12:59] <ikonia> szal: it won't be more up to date,
[12:59] <ikonia> szal: but ICQ isn't a protocol that's changing every week, so it may still work
[12:59] <ikonia> doubt it
[12:59] <manuel_> in the k-Menu i can only find Kompete =(
[12:59] <ikonia> manuel_: you need to install it
[12:59] <ikonia> manuel_: from the software repos
[12:59] <manuel_> how can i install pidgin?
[13:00] <manuel_> a okay =) and how can i do this/ it?
[13:00] <ikonia> you'll need to install some gnome libraries too
[13:00] <ikonia> manuel_: open the package manager, search for pidgin, click install
[13:00] <manuel_> oh ok..
[13:00] <manuel_> Adept is the package manager. is that right?
[13:01] <ikonia> in 6.06 kubuntu, not sure what's default
[13:02] <manuel_> the pm can't find pidgin. and if i search on google the actual version of pidgin is not compatible with my system =(
[13:03] <faichele_> I've got a quite annoying problem on Oneiric (64 bit): I can't get the kernel to properly set up the sound card correctly.
[13:03] <ikonia> manuel_: then you cxan't use it
[13:03] <manuel_> hmm =(
[13:03] <szal> ikonia: found a bug complaining about an ICQ protocol change on June 11, 2011..  wasn't that days before 6.06 went EOL?
[13:03] <manuel_> and is there any way to get adobe flash player work on 6.06?
[13:04] <manuel_> i love kubuntu and don't want to get back to ubuntu =(
[13:04] <ikonia> szal: typical
[13:04] <ikonia> manuel_: I think the PPC flash package will not work any more
[13:04] <ikonia> manuel_: kubuntu/ubuntu are not different, they use the same flash package
[13:04] <faichele_> The problem is a HDMI audio device that always registers itself as soundcard with device index 0.
[13:04] <manuel_> hmm =(
[13:06] <manuel_> ikona?
[13:06] <ikonia> manuel_: what ?
[13:06] <manuel_> and at all... thank you for your help =)
[13:07] <manuel_> no i'll use icq on meebo =)
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:32] <BarkingFish> Hi BluesKaj :)
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hi BarkingFish
[15:09] <adarshajoisa> i have a problem with my sound. some song in my collection keeps playing in the background, even though i don't have any player running. any idea y this happens? it's very irritating when i'm watching a movie or something. using kubuntu 11.10
[15:13] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, which music player do you use ?
[15:13] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: amarok
[15:15] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, make surew when you close it from the panel , when you shut it down.
[15:15] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: yes, i do that (ctrl + q). also, i did a "ps -e | grep amarok
[15:15] <adarshajoisa> amarok isn't running
[15:16] <adarshajoisa> i also tried rebooting a few times. didn't work either
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ok, which video player(s)?
[15:17] <adarshajoisa> vlc
[15:17] <adarshajoisa> that isn't running either
[15:17] <BluesKaj> is the music always playing ?
[15:18] <adarshajoisa> almost. it plays for like a minute, stops for a few seconds n continues. keeps happening
[15:19] <adarshajoisa> i don't know whether it'll stop playing after the track is complete. it's playing a podcast that's more than an hour long. didn't try waiting till it completed.
[15:21] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, is the podcast live or in your files?
[15:21] <adarshajoisa> in my files. i have a collection.
[15:23] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: ok, i just figured out using pavucontrol that it's the ALSA plugin for chrome that's playing it. how do i disable it?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> looks tomme that chrome auto connecting to the music site
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I would not remove the chrome plugin . I would delete the link
[15:26] <adarshajoisa> yes. i think i fixed it. :) i had a internet radio extension on chrome. just uninstalled it and the sound stoped. Hope that fixed it.
[15:26] <adarshajoisa> Oops! anyways, i wasn't using it much. doesn't matter. :P thanks a lot! :)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, try a different site that serves audio , and make sure the link doesn't stick
[15:27] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: yep. will do that. :)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, btw , i use chromium-browser ...it's much more kde friendly and has fewer bugs ..all your chrome sttings will transfer to chromium if you install it
[15:30] <adarshajoisa> ok. it's not in ubuntu repository, rit?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yes it is , as chromium-browser
[15:31] <adarshajoisa> oh, yes. got it. :)
[15:33] <adarshajoisa> oh, and BluesKaj, i also have another problem with my audio. when i plug in my headphones, my laptop speakers don't turn off. i have to do it manually using pavucontrol. any idea y i have this problem?
[15:34] <juli> privet
[15:36] <darthanubis> anyone aware of KDE 4.7.4 becoming available to 11.10?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, that's actually not a real problem , some ppl can't turn the speakers off, even with pavucontrol .. you're lucky :)
[15:38] <adarshajoisa> lol. :) bug in pulseaudio?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> adarshajoisa, no I think it's in alsa  , but it depends on the soundcard and kernel module/driver
[15:40] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: ok. i guess i'll just have to live with it.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> well adarshajoisa at least you can turn them off
[15:41] <adarshajoisa> BluesKaj: yes. :D otherwise i'd have a very pissed off roommate.
[15:58] <darthanubis> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3119608.0
[15:58] <darthanubis> for those who are concerned
[16:11] <BluesKaj> !time
[16:16] <Research> hello, good news here
[16:17] <Research> j'
[16:17] <daftone> i see what kind of good news did you bring
[16:18] <Research> episode three is coming
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Research, stop trolling , do you have a question?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> good
[16:51] <Zearta> hello there, anyone can help me ?
[16:52] <Zearta> nobody?
[16:53] <Zearta> i would like to install a windows 7 theme on kde
[16:53] <Zearta> how can i do ?
[17:02] <maystar> Hello Zearta! You should be able to install it in the Desktop Design section of your system settings
[17:02] <BluesKaj> maystar, he's gone
[17:02] <maystar> I'm not sure how they are named in english, my KDE is german
[17:03] <maystar> ah, ok
[17:03] <maystar> thanks
[17:03] <BluesKaj> but i you're interested , http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=105559
[17:03] <BluesKaj> if
[17:04] <maystar> thanks, but i'm happy with the standard design
[17:05] <BluesKaj> same here ...dunno why ppl install linux and then try to make it look like windows , unless they're trying to hide it from the boss , which seems to be the case in a lot of these requests
[18:29] <ScottyK> greetings! on a 11.10 32-bit netbook, I keep getting authentication errors when I do an apt-get update and it hits the extras.ubuntu package
[18:33] <ScottyK> error message - http://paste.kde.org/157844/
[18:47] <oxymoron> Hi, I recently updated to KDE 4.7.3 and uhm IO slave for Dolphin doesnt work,  and Lancelot menu disabled. Removed Lancelot and wanted to add Kickoff instead, but found out that I cannot even see any components at all to apply to activity bar.
[18:56] <oxymoron> Anyone?
[18:57] <faichele_> oxymoron: Difficult to determine the actual cause in my own experience; what will restore a default KDE configuration: Rename the hidden .kde folder in your home directory, then logout and login again.
[18:59] <lnxslck> does anyone runs a laptop with an external tft?
[19:06] <erik1397> what happened to the back button in the kmenu? as i remember it, in kde4 you could just go back using a back button on the left side of the kmenu
[19:15] <littlegirl>  Does anybody know which widget I need to put back into place (after mysteriously losing it) so that I get notified of updates?
[19:16] <littlegirl> I used to get a little pop-up that said I have software that can be updated, and the package manager has the setting turned on to notify me, but I'm not being notified.
[19:17] <shadeslayer> littlegirl: yes, right click the systray and open the settings
[19:18] <shadeslayer> littlegirl: in there, there should be a entry for notifications, just toggle the tick box and you're done
[19:18] <AciD_> hi
[19:20] <AciD_> I'm recently (since 1 week) observing much more segfault randomly on my system. Firefox isn't not stable at all and crashes regularly. apt-get most of the time dies with segfault. nepomuk too, but that's not new. Am I alone in this case since last sunday ? Is there a solution ?
[19:20] <littlegirl> shadeslayer: Everything is checked already, but thank you so much for letting me know about that. It gives me a new area to investigate. (:
[19:23] <ScottyK> greetings! on a 11.10 32-bit netbook, I keep getting authentication errors when I do an apt-get update and it hits the extras.ubuntu package
[19:23] <ScottyK> error message - http://paste.kde.org/157844/
[19:25] <OerHeks> ScottyK, try changing the mirror ?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> littlegirl: :)
[19:26] <shadeslayer> OerHeks: I don't think extras.ubuntu.com is mirrored
[19:26] <ScottyK> Right now I've got United States selected.
[19:27] <OerHeks> all repository's are, shadeslayer , i run the local dutch mirror, no problem
[19:27] <shadeslayer> Oh ... okay, I just thought extras wasn't mirrored
[19:28] <ScottyK> I'm checking out another mirror right now..
[19:36] <haakonn> strange problem: some windows, such as konsole and youtube in firefox, just stops redrawing until i force them by alt-tabbing or something similar. i use the intel graphics driver in oneiric. has anyone seen this before? it's so annoying.
[20:25] <oxymoron> faichele_: Thanks :)
[20:26] <faichele_> oxymoron: If you're looking for application-specific configuration data (like browser bookmarks for Konqueror), these are saved in the subfolder you renamed; you should be able to move individual directories to the newly created .kde folder to restore the old configuration.
[20:28] <oxymoron> faichele_: Thanks :) Well really NOTHING works, its like all config files just disappeared. Sorry to say, but really amateur of KDE devs or whoever caused the problem.
[20:32] <jasmin> hiii
[20:32] <jasmin> any one help me out
[20:33] <jasmin> $ iperf -s
[20:33] <jasmin>  bind failed: Address already in use
[20:33] <jasmin> how do i fix it
[20:33] <jasmin> on vm ware
[20:34] <jasmin> two virtual machine
[20:37] <BluesKaj> jasmin, more detail pls
[20:45] <BarkingFish> Evening all. I think I need a little help here.  I need to install a font on Kubuntu 11.10 - but searching the repositories, I can't find one in this script.  If I find one, how do I install it?
[20:46] <BarkingFish> The script is a South Asian script, called Gurmukhi - it's the same script that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib and the Sikh Gurbani prayers are written in.
[20:58] <AciD_> Hi, I'm trying to use 2560x1440 resolution on my 27", but ubuntu only gives me 1980x1200 maximum resolution. Can I force a bigger resolution ? I have a intel i5-2410M using the internal hd 3000 graphics gpu.
[20:58] <AciD_> 1980x1080 even
[20:58] <AciD_> dang, I can't write : I meant to say : 1920x1080
[21:00] <BluesKaj> AciD_, we saw you at #ubuntu asking the same Q , pls don't crosspost
[21:16] <bobthefukuman> i'm home
[21:19] <Alonea> ok, so I made a bootable usb with persistence. How do I get it to auto go into the OS without having to click the Try Kubuntu every time?
[21:40] <Tech-1> bobthefukuman:  sup with the dorky nic man
[21:44] <BluesKaj> bob ....man you'd better change that nick, or be booted
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !language
[21:47] <BluesKaj> Pici, you available ?
[22:00] <koleoptero> has anyone used pulseaudio-equalizer with kubuntu 11.10?
[22:02] <Tech-1> i prolly wouldnt, ive read too many bad things
[22:03] <koleoptero> I've used it with huge success in other DEs and setups
[22:04] <koleoptero> but not with kubuntu recently
[22:04] <Tech-1> cool
[22:04] <koleoptero> I probably will but thought to ask first in case someone knows anything I should look out for
[22:05] <Stronze> i hooked an hdmi cable to my laptop and not getting sound thru the TV
[22:08] <Stronze> can someone point me in the right direction to getting sound to play on the tv thru an hdmi cable?
[22:08] <BarkingFish> have you routed your sound to play through the hdmi?
[22:09] <BarkingFish> I assume not, since you're asking how to do it :)
[22:09] <Stronze> this is my first time using an hdmi cable
[22:09] <BarkingFish> press alt + f2  and in the box which appears, type   systemsettings
[22:10] <Stronze> its open
[22:10] <BarkingFish> ok, click on Multimedia in the Hardware section, then in the next window, click Phonon
[22:12] <Stronze> i see audo cds and phonon in left panel
[22:12] <BarkingFish> yeah, click the phonon button
[22:12] <Stronze> *click*
[22:13] <BarkingFish> OK, now click on "Video" under the Audio Playback section, and tell me what sound devices you have on the right
[22:13] <Stronze> whats next?
[22:13] <Stronze> internal audio analog stereo
[22:14] <BarkingFish> that's it?
[22:14] <Stronze> yes
[22:14] <BarkingFish> oh boy...
[22:14] <BarkingFish> !hdmi
[22:14] <BarkingFish> hm
[22:14] <BarkingFish> One second then.
[22:15] <Stronze> i dont like the sound of that
[22:15] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: Are you about? I'm gonna need some help with this one.  Routing sound to HDMI lead into a tv, but there's no HDMI output in the Phonon section.  I'd assume it's pulseaudio at play, do we need to switch Stronze to using Alsa only?
[22:16] <BarkingFish> Stronze: Pulseaudio is notorious for hiding outputs and shoving everything into one sound device... Alsa is better, it shows you all the available outputs and the like, it'll be easier once we get you onto alsa.
[22:16] <Stronze> your calling upper managment? thats scary
[22:16] <Stronze> :P
[22:16] <BarkingFish> The problem is, I can't remember how to do it :)
[22:17] <BarkingFish> I'm recovering from a major head injury, and some of the stuff I used to know, I don't now. So I need help :)
[22:17] <BarkingFish> My calling upper management is only because I need to work out what the heck to do :)
[22:17] <Stronze> ouch, sky diving?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> !netsplit
[22:22] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: Hi :)
[22:22] <BarkingFish> Did you see my note before the fallout exploded everywhere?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, is the hdmi out on your onboard card or the same one you are using now , if so just make sure your spdif ctrl in alsamixer is enabled and turned up past 90%
[22:22] <BarkingFish> It's not my machine, BluesKaj
[22:22] <Stronze> its mine
[22:23] <BarkingFish> I'm helping Stronze - he's trying to play into his TV via HDMI, but no audio is passing
[22:23] <BluesKaj> ok Stronze , anyway dothe conditions I described apply ?
[22:24] <Stronze> care to break that down to dumnanese?
[22:24] <BarkingFish> lol
[22:24] <Stronze> dumbanese*
[22:25] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: He's only got one output in phonon, makes me think Pulseaudio has jiggered with his sound config - normally in alsamixer, with pulseaudio in place, I only see one volume control...
[22:26] <BarkingFish> I want to get pulseaudio off here too, so I can get back to having a decent sound config, but since I can't remember how, I can't tell anyone else.
[22:26] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is hit and miss , it mostly works but not always , type alsamixer in the terminal, Stronze then look for a control that's labelled spdif , if you hit f5  you migfht even see an hdmi ctrl listed
[22:28] <BluesKaj> turn those ctrls up with the arrow key and navigate with them as well , also use the M key to remove the mute indicator from any of the ctls
[22:29] <Stronze> blueskaj, barking fish - master 100   headphone 100<>100   speaker 100<>100  pcm 100<>100  Mic boos 0<>0  s.pdif 00  s/pdif d 00  s/pdif 1 MM
[22:29] <BluesKaj> and if you see automute enabled use the up arrow ket to disable it
[22:30] <Stronze> oh beep 00 auto mut enabled internal 100<>100
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Stronze, can you take an alsamixer screenshot and pastebin \it pls
[22:33] <Stronze> #gm um can terminal do a screenshot or am i restricted to full moniter screen shot? im have twin view up
[22:34] <BluesKaj> Stronze, if you use the f5 key , it should show the hdmi ctrl as well , spdif has to be turned up for the hdmi to get a signal
[22:35] <BluesKaj> of course crank the hdmi too
[22:35] <Stronze> f5 dhowed more bars but no hdmi and i cant control s/pdif, d and 1 to turn up volume
[22:38] <BluesKaj> is this a laptop ?
[22:39] <Stronze> yes, found out i cna fiddle with print screen so pic up up shortly
[22:40] <archenroot> check
[22:40] <Alonea> ok, so I made a bootable usb with persistence.  I pop back in every few months
[22:43] <Stronze> blue - i dont believe it has 2 graphics cards
[22:44] <Stronze> blueskaj i could have sworn paste bin had an up load photo option but im not seeing it
[22:44] <BluesKaj> imagebin
[22:46] <Stronze> http://imagebin.org/188118
[22:48] <BluesKaj> Stronze, your automute is still enabled , use the up arrow key to disable that
[22:49] <Stronze> auti mut disabled
[22:50] <BluesKaj> Stronze, I'm not really well versed on the hdmi audio thing , I use coax out on my setup , also look into setting up an .asoundrc file ;...I have to go ...dinnertime here
[22:51] <Stronze> laters blue
[22:54] <Stronze> barkingfish - upper management had to leave :/
[22:54] <Stronze> barkingfish - brb coffin nail
[22:54] <BarkingFish> yeah, I saw.  Unfortunately, since I'm stuck on what to do, you may need to come back tomorrow when upper management is around. Or failing that, someone else could help you here :)
[22:55] <BarkingFish> I'm having one myself, Stronze :)
[23:00] <Stronze> barkingfish - back
[23:00] <BarkingFish> wb
[23:01] <Stronze> barkingfish - should i uninstall whole audio and re-install?
[23:01] <BarkingFish> Right, as I was saying, unless anyone else here can help you, I think you may have to come back some other time.
[23:01] <BarkingFish> I wouldn't do that just yet, your problem may be fixable
[23:02] <Stronze> anyone know how to get hdmi sound going thru the TV?
[23:05] <Stronze> barkingfish - interesting. internal audio digital stero (HDMI) and (iec958) is now listed in alt f2 systemsettings multimedia but its greyed out
[23:05] <BarkingFish> aha
[23:06] <BarkingFish> give me a second then
[23:08] <BarkingFish> Stronze: It definitely sounds to me like pulseaudio is messing things up. Let me see if I can figure out from the net, how to knock it on the head for you.
[23:08] <BarkingFish> Give me a few while I go look
[23:08] <Stronze> hmm its working kinda
[23:09] <Stronze> i went to audio hardware setup and set profile and connector around and only plays thru tv but not computer
[23:09] <BarkingFish> Stronze: I think I found out how to do this :)
[23:09] <BarkingFish> Which helps me a lot, cause as soon as I'm finished sorting this out with you, I'm gonna do it myself :)
[23:10] <Stronze> is there a way for sound to play on tv and computer?
[23:10] <BarkingFish> not that I'm aware of.
[23:10] <BarkingFish> Or I should say, not that I can remember being aware of :)
[23:10] <Stronze> so i gotta go back and forth
[23:11] <BarkingFish> not necessarily
[23:11] <BarkingFish> you can set sound devices to play in order of preference under phonon - I'll help you with that in a mo
[23:11] <BarkingFish> if one's not connected, the fallback will play
[23:12] <BarkingFish> in the mean time, do you want to try this? It may help, and if not, it can be reversed
[23:12] <Stronze> i gotta idiot proof this so my sister in law and brother can do it when they wanna watch movies since im not allowing them to play movies for my nephew on my 360
[23:12] <BarkingFish> ok
[23:12] <Stronze> sure ill try
[23:12] <BarkingFish> right - can you open up a terminal, and at the prompt, type:   kate  ~/.pulse/client.conf
[23:14] <BarkingFish> when you get into the file - look for a line which says   autospawn = yes
[23:14] <BarkingFish> you need to change the yes, to a no - then save the file
[23:14] <Stronze> file is blank
[23:14] <BarkingFish> ????
[23:14] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[23:15] <BarkingFish> ok. Let me go have a looky here.
[23:15] <Stronze> i dont know if it matters but i run kubuntu gui over ubuntu install
[23:16] <BarkingFish> no, it shouldn't matter
[23:16] <BarkingFish> The instructions appear to be the same for both kubuntu and ubuntu
[23:16] <Stronze> i copy pasted what you wrote
[23:17] <BarkingFish> aha
[23:17] <BarkingFish> I know why. They moved the client conf :)
[23:17] <BarkingFish> try this: sudo kate /etc/pulse/client.conf
[23:18] <Stronze> done
[23:18] <BarkingFish> in there, find the line   autospawn=yes    and change it to autospawn=no
[23:18] <BarkingFish> save it
[23:18] <BarkingFish> and then close kate :)
[23:19] <Stronze> done
[23:19] <BarkingFish> right, you're back at the prompt?
[23:19] <Stronze> yeps back in terminal ~/documents$
[23:19] <BarkingFish> next thing then is to type this:   killall pulseaudio
[23:19] <Stronze> cd?
[23:20] <BarkingFish> we've just set pulseaudio not to start itself, and once it's killed, any other sound system like alsa, should take over
[23:20] <Stronze> should i cd out of ~/documents?
[23:20] <BarkingFish> not necessary just yet :)
[23:21] <BarkingFish> You're fine there for a moment
[23:21] <BarkingFish> What I need you to do now is to just reboot your machine, then when you come back, tell me if you have any sound from your laptop on restart
[23:21] <Stronze> movie sound stopped then gota soft beep noise
[23:21] <Stronze> okay
[23:21] <Stronze> brb
[23:21] <BarkingFish> see you in a moment :)
[23:22] <BarkingFish> btw, I'm gonna reboot too - i just did that here :)
[23:22] <BarkingFish> see you shortly, I'll be back
[23:30] <BoomerBile> can anyone point me to a guide for setting up wireless connections using wpa2 personal without using network manager and preferably with bonding support... i've got the bonding set up but I have no idea how to use the new /etc/network/interfaces file with wpa2 or wireless
[23:33] <BarkingFish> Stronze - you back yet?
[23:34] <BarkingFish> Yahaa :)
[23:34] <BarkingFish> Hi dude - right, did you hear anything?
[23:34] <Stronze> barkingfish - sound plays on laptop but not tv
[23:34] <Stronze> but thats straight from boot up and not messing with anything
[23:34] <BarkingFish> ok, we've got a couple more things for you to do before we can declare this fixed, and I've got mine working with these.
[23:34] <Tech-1> does he have to go to terminal and ... gstreamer-properties and change it to alsa ?
[23:34] <BarkingFish> I have sound everywhere, and I've *uninstalled* pulseaudio
[23:35] <BarkingFish> Tech-1: nope
[23:35] <Tech-1> ok
[23:35] <BarkingFish> not for this :)
[23:35] <BarkingFish> Stronze: this might be a bit laborious, but trust me, it's better this way :)
[23:35] <BarkingFish> can you open up a terminal again for me please?
[23:35] <Stronze> im use to that with this :/
[23:36] <Stronze> its never a simple solution for me
[23:36] <BarkingFish> Stronze: it used to be second nature to me, i've been on linux almost 11 years :)
[23:36] <BarkingFish> since my whack on the head and the subsequent issues from it, i've been back to learning again.
[23:36] <Stronze> going on 3 - 4 years for me but i dont tinker with it. if it works, i dont touch it
[23:37] <Stronze> you never did say how you hit your head
[23:37] <BarkingFish> You asked me earlier how I did it... I got the corner of an open trunk door on an SUV through my forehead
[23:37] <BarkingFish> while I was walking :)
[23:37] <Tech-1> ouch!
[23:38] <Stronze> ouch, someone hit you with their truck?
[23:38] <BarkingFish> no, Stronze - i was backing out of my friends flat, he's wheelchair bound and was blocking the doorway, so I couldn't turn round.
[23:38] <BarkingFish> I backed out, turned round to walk across the pavement, and walked into it.
[23:39] <Stronze> ouch
[23:39] <BarkingFish> anyway, enough of me, let's get you fixed before my net connection goes down for the night :)
[23:39] <Stronze> lol
[23:40] <BarkingFish> Ok, you're in a terminal - I need you to cd to your home directory, and   rmdir .pulse/
[23:40] <BarkingFish> *sorry, rmdir -rf .pulse/
[23:40] <BarkingFish> then  rm .pulse-cookie
[23:40] <Stronze> slow down there sparky
[23:41] <BarkingFish> :)
[23:41] <Stronze> cd ~/stronze?
[23:41] <BarkingFish> cd /home/stronze
[23:42] <BarkingFish> you have to use -rf on the command, since the directory has stuff in it, and won't remove normally while it's full :)
[23:43] <BarkingFish> so once you've done those things, tell me, and we'll move on :)
[23:43] <Stronze> im remember wrong or stronze@stronze-laptop:~$  is correct?
[23:43] <zeppo_>  i am using xmonad (in ubuntu). what tool can i use to see information about the system on desktop? (like sensor info of cpu.temp.mem usage,net activity etc)
[23:43] <BarkingFish> if you're in your home directory, Stronze - you're in the right place
[23:44] <BarkingFish> normally when you open a terminal like konsole, you're in your home directory anyway
[23:44] <Stronze> rmdir: invalid option -- 'r'
[23:44] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[23:45] <BarkingFish> right, try rm -rf .pulse/
[23:45] <Stronze> nothing happened, just flashed and back to home dir
[23:45] <BarkingFish> yep
[23:45] <BarkingFish> that directory has gone though
[23:46] <BarkingFish> now -    rm .pulse-cookie  please
[23:46] <Stronze> back to home dir
[23:46] <BarkingFish> excellent
[23:46] <BarkingFish> now   killall pulseaudio
[23:46] <Stronze> home dir , movie sound died and soft beep
[23:47] <BarkingFish> excellent
[23:47] <BarkingFish> next one - sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[23:47] <BarkingFish> you should have about 5 packages to uninstall
[23:47] <Stronze> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 259 not upgraded.
[23:48] <Stronze> After this operation, 4,641 kB disk space will be freed.
[23:48] <BarkingFish> yeah, you must have a couple of plugins for pulseaudio - take the whole lot out :)
[23:48] <Stronze> *plays jeopardy theme*
[23:48] <Tech-1> lol
[23:48] <BarkingFish> i only had 5 to go, I had just a basic pulseaudio install
[23:49] <Stronze> ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[23:49] <BarkingFish> yep
[23:49] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall
[23:49] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[23:49] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: :)
[23:49] <Stronze> all of that in one line in terminal or is that 2 steps?
[23:49] <BarkingFish> on one line, I'd assume :)
[23:50] <BluesKaj> oops , anyway that command takes out pulse in one line , or so I thought :)
[23:50] <BarkingFish> yes it does
[23:50] <BarkingFish> That's the one I forgot when I nailed my head, BluesKaj :)
[23:50] <Stronze> makes it hard to copy paste when you break it up in 2 lines :/
[23:50] <BarkingFish> I went a-googling to get the right answer :)
[23:51] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: my way worked anyhow, at least for me
[23:51] <BarkingFish> I'm doing it with Stronze the way I did mine
[23:51] <BluesKaj> yeah BarkingFish , sorry to hear about your accident ..that's gotta be a bummer
[23:51] <Stronze> look at the bright side, you cleared some olf useless data and recovered mor brain drive space :P
[23:51] <BarkingFish> well I'm into my 12th week of brain scans, hospital visits, and best of all, no work and still getting paid :)
[23:52] <BluesKaj> np BarkingFish , pulse is a pita mostly anyway , altho i need it for webaudio
[23:52] <BarkingFish> I wish they'd go back to using artsd - at least everything functioned with that
[23:52] <BarkingFish> anyway, Stronze - how are you getting on?
[23:53] <Stronze> its still downloading
[23:53] <BluesKaj> yeah hdmi is putting linux sound behind the 8 ball IMO
[23:53] <Stronze> slow connection
[23:53] <BarkingFish> I remember after I did what I did to mine, I rebooted again and then went into the multimedia / phonon bit in systemsettings, and rearranged my sound devices
[23:53] <Stronze> i bought a wifi repeater that i stick outside to caputer an open wifi connection
[23:53] <BarkingFish> Stronze: nice :)
[23:54] <BarkingFish> I get wifi using a parabolic dish and a usb stick superglued to my window
[23:54] <Tech-1> lol
[23:54] <Stronze> i been thinking of doing that
[23:54] <BarkingFish> The parabolic dish is a steel cooking bowl, and it's glued to the window over the top of the wifi stick
[23:54] <Stronze> home dir
[23:55] <Tech-1> you could use mirrors
[23:55] <Stronze> would mirrors give better reception?
[23:55] <Tech-1> if they are strong enough
[23:55] <Tech-1> cheap ones will absorb
[23:55] <BarkingFish> I use the bowl so I can focus all the incoming signals onto the stick - and my wifi went up to 94% incoming signal on the first day I set it up :)
[23:55] <Stronze> im wanting to use an old satellite dish with a usb stick
[23:55] <BluesKaj> heh, my neighbours finally smartend up and actaully put pw protection on their wep
[23:56] <Tech-1> haha
[23:56] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: Ah.  Remember, most times, people are silly enough to use the SSID as their password :)
[23:56] <Stronze> im in home dir, next step please
[23:56] <BarkingFish> They're the silly ones.
[23:56] <Tech-1> backtrack 5 ftw
[23:57] <BarkingFish> Stronze: if you've done all of that, iirc the next step was reboot, then do the multimedia devices setup in systemsettings to find which devices you have output on
[23:57] <Stronze> i tried backtrack on my old laptop and it password protected boot up and i can no longer use it
[23:58] <Stronze> i thought bk5 would be a seperate OS but it installed within in ubuntu
[23:58] <BarkingFish> Stronze: that's odd.  Did it ask you to set a password?
[23:58] <Stronze> no
[23:58] <Stronze> im gonna wipe it and restinstall
[23:58] <Stronze> when im not being lazy
[23:58] <Stronze> re-install*
[23:58] <Stronze> brb reboot
[23:58] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, what are youi aiming at with the bowl ?
[23:59] <BarkingFish> A public wifi repeater installed by our ISP
[23:59] <BluesKaj> like imax ?
[23:59] <BarkingFish> they fitted us cable 6 weeks ago, and borked the install so nobody's cable connection works
[23:59] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: yeah