[04:44] <Dreki> pluxxi yeah, some of the files grub uses are on the linux partition, just run ur windows restore disc and it will fix it i think...
[04:44] <DrLame> Pluxii, yes, just now I had that problem, had to reinstall ubuntu
[04:44] <phenix> DrLame: if you're worried about it, then yeah, just comment it out in menu.lst
[04:45] <bobo> Phenix: ill do that some other time, ill keep that website, thanks
[04:45] <fccf> donavan: let me see a URL and see if I can do it
[04:45] <Pluxii> DrLame: same here, i just noticed it when i did that to make a bigger part. for ubuntu, kinda caught me off guard
[04:45] <phenix> DrLame: also, in the future if that happens, you can fix GRUB without reinstalling ubuntu
[04:46] <Pluxii> phenix: how?
[04:46] <Dreki> i am havving a problem with a segmentation fault when i try to run MountManager terminal output is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/219503/ does anyone know how i might fix this or find out whats causeing it?
[04:46] <DrLame> Pluxii, all I did was load the windows restore partition with the grub (on accident), exited right away, and found out my ubuntu partition was formatted somehow...
[04:46] <cew_lov_ce> how
[04:46] <donavan> fccf: check you PM
[04:46] <bobo> phenix: is it possible to save all programs ( or at least settings) with out making another partition for my home folder?
[04:46] <cew_lov_ce> how to join
[04:46] <DrLame> phenix, how?
[04:46] <cn28h> Dreki, unfortunately that is not very useful without the actual core dump
[04:47] <phenix> Pluxii: easiest is boot off the liveCD, then run a few commands.  Just google it when you run into it (unless you want the commands now)
[04:47] <BoredOOMM> I am needing help restoring a /home_backup
[04:47] <Pluxii> phenix: thanks, that makes sense, i put ubuntu back on so obviously it's not an issue at this point, just wanted to know for future reference
[04:47] <cn28h> Dreki, you could possibly set max corefile size higher (then should say Segmentation fault (core dumped)) and send the file to the devs of muntmanager
[04:47] <phenix> bobo: i don't know.  I don't think so, but maybe someone else has an idea.
[04:48] <bobo> i meann its no big deal, the most important stuff i have is just music and videos IF i have to reinstall ubuntu/xp. i've done it 3 times now
[04:48] <bullgard4> cew_lov_ce: How to join what?
[04:48] <jujuranes> hey guys, do you know if it is possible to pass arguments to cp by piping output to it?
[04:48] <cew_lov_ce> join chat
[04:49] <Pluxii> bobo: lol the reinstall is always the wasy part
[04:49] <phenix> bobo: yeah, I always keep my home folder on a seperate partition as root.  It makes life easier.
[04:49] <DrLame> phenix, do you happen to have the commands handy to fix grub if ubuntu part gets formatted? =/
[04:49] <bobo> phenix: i know, but i just am too lazy to do it
[04:49] <cn28h> jujuranes, look up xargs
[04:49] <bullgard4> cew_lov_ce: You have already joined this chat. What other chat do you mean?
[04:49] <phenix> bobo: :)
[04:49] <BoredOOMM> phenix> can you help me with /home back up error?
[04:49] <Dreki> cn28h hm.. ok, well if all else fails atleast the devs know theres a problem... but how do i do all that?
[04:49] <bobo> yay! its starting to do stuff
[04:50] <Pluxii> hurray for stuff
[04:50] <david_> I was wondering if KDE had a way to configure multiple monitors like in GNOME.  GNOME allows for multiple monitors to be configured non-mirrored, where in KDE forces both screens into one resolution.  Optimally I would like 1 monitor per virtual desktop.
[04:50] <cn28h> Dreki, ulimit -c unlimited
[04:50] <dronix> Anyone know how to apply changes without logout/reboot?
[04:50] <bobo> can you get viruses if you use virtualbox (or equivalent)
[04:50] <brian__webb> ok i did something wrong, i partitioned my hard drive so i could dual boot ubuntu and mebis, but when i restart the boot menu doesnt show ubuntu only mebis
[04:50] <cn28h> Dreki, then run it again.. it should generate a core file
[04:51] <Ratapoil> I need to reinstall OS but I have a Dell linux-preinstalled that doesn't have a separate /home partition. I have way too much data I need to keep. someone told me, resize your partition. but GParted says partition cannot be unmounted. What's the procedure? need to boot from a liveCD?
[04:51] <Dreki> cn28h where will it save the file?
[04:51] <cn28h> Dreki, in your current directory
[04:51] <phenix> DrLame: in terminal: grub.  That brings you to the grub prompt.  Then: root (hd0,0) ; setup (hd0) ; quit.  That should do it assuming /boot/grub/stage1 is on hd0,0.  Adjust accordingly if it's somewhere else (you can do find /boot/grub/stage1 to find out).
[04:51] <DrLame> whew, okay thanks
[04:52] <phenix> bobo: yes, but they will be confined to the OS instance in virtualization (usually).
[04:52] <bobo> how interesting
[04:52] <phenix> bobo: I'm glad it's working.
[04:52] <bobo> slowly, took 15 mins to check it and now its doing it again
[04:52] <Ratapoil> is there an ubuntu liveCD?
[04:52] <Pluxii> bobo: i ran across some getting virus' in VMWare, but you just delete the machine and make a new one if that happens
[04:53] <bobo> Ratapoil: yes
[04:53] <Ratapoil> can you boot live with the regular DesktopEdition?
[04:53] <bobo> Pluxii: haha , so i could go to one of those websites that gives you a nasty nasty virus and then laugh because it didnt hurt ur main OS
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> virtual machines are a good way to 'test' and see what viruses do. :)
[04:53] <phenix> Ratapoil: yes.
[04:53] <Dreki> cn28h i set the limit to unlimited but it still didnt dump it
[04:54] <cn28h> Dreki, hmm. Not sure then :/ that is strange
[04:54] <fccf> donovan: see PM
[04:54] <deadredghost> anyone know how to change the sound device in the terminal its not working from the windows
[04:54] <BoredOOMM> I am needing help restoring a /home_backup
[04:54] <phenix> goodnight guys.  Cheers.
[04:54] <fccf> donavan: see PM
[04:54] <Pluxii> boob: yeah i've never had it transfer into my main OS, don't really see how it could.  My brother and I have been trying to catch conflicker for months now and just can't get it lol we want to pick it apart
[04:54] <Dreki> cn28h well thanks anyway m8
[04:54] <cn28h> Dreki, when I try it it does dump one, though
[04:55] <Smart_> jaunty screen bad in virtualbox 3.02 ( sun emulator ) help plz
[04:55] <bobo> Pluxii: hahah, yeah guys, i wanna catch a virus!!!!!!!!
[04:55] <Pluxii> ok wife is here with Sonic food =) see you guys in a bit
[04:55] <Smart_> desktop version
[04:56] <howie> fccf: you get a chance to look over that pastbin?
[04:57] <fccf> howie: yeah ... asterisk should install with no problems using ... sudo apt-get install asterisk
[04:57] <Dreki> i am havving a problem with a segmentation fault when i try to run MountManager terminal output is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/219503/ does anyone know how i might fix this or find out whats causeing it?
[04:57] <fccf> Smart_: you might want to ask in !vbox
[04:57] <howie> fccf: and the zaptel and libpri?
[04:58] <BoredOOMM> I am needing help restoring a /home_backup I followed Psychocats and borked chmod
[04:58] <Smart_> fccf: is there a #vbox channel here in freenode ?
[04:58] <lstarnes> Smart_: yes, and it has about 200 users
[04:59] <fccf> howie: same with those .... all available pre-compiled in a repository for anyone to use
[04:59] <howie> fccf: alright ty
[04:59] <Smart_> fccf : found that channel , but nobody answering yet
[05:00] <blubaustin> Hello
[05:01] <Guest20226> looking for help with exerex laptop audio issue
[05:01] <blubaustin> I switched from Debian to Ubuntu because I like ubuntu. But I have no audio in Ubuntu Jaunty, any ideas? I have installed all the gstreamer plugins, tried pulseaudio and etc
[05:01] <fccf> Smart_: might be a tad slower than this channel
[05:01] <Smart_> fccf : i have copyed /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the installation-CD image to the directory , as what is said on the net , but no use
[05:02] <theRealBall> guys any ideas why my /etc/profile.d isn't working?
[05:03] <Smart_> fccf : much much more slower
[05:04] <fccf> Smart_: give me a min and I can copy mine from a virtual machine I have ... 9.04 right?
[05:04] <gnubie> blubaustin; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html   you might look here
[05:05] <blubaustin> k thnx
[05:06] <Akalbulusikus> I hv problm installing ubuntu
[05:07] <Akalbulusikus> When i highlite the text "Install Ubuntu" n press enter, thr is a message
[05:08] <BoredOOMM> come on someone, third request help with chmod error
[05:08] <darkhamm> i only want to know why synaptic don't have an undo command
[05:08] <fccf> Smart_: http://pastebin.com/f1f0745e2 --- this will give you 800x600 best I can do for the moment
[05:09] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion??
[05:09] <Baconizer> no
[05:09] <lstarnes> ravindu: I've never heard that before
[05:09] <Baconizer> Where did you hear that?
[05:09] <Jeruvy> fccf: ok I got all 4 monitors working the way I like :)  Miro looks great on a big screen.  Off to the next project.
[05:09] <fccf> Jeruvy: awesome ... glad I could assist
[05:09] <ravindu> I mean extra effects with
[05:10] <EnragedOstrich> oh Wow
[05:10] <thomson> why are there a number of sound card drivers listed under sound preferences?
[05:10] <thomson> there are even three of the same :-S
[05:10] <mazda01> gartral, some progress. here's what it returned. sox formats: can't open output file `/var/lib/mythtv/tmp/': Is a directory
[05:10] <Baconizer> thomson: most likely, because there are a number of sound card drivers
[05:10] <EnragedOstrich> Hey, Anyone ever install ePSXe on Ubuntu and get it working?
[05:10] <mazda01> gartral, sorry, I had to go somewhere now I can't see if you responded.
[05:11] <ravindu> compiz worked in intrepid not for jaunty now
[05:11] <thomson> Baconizer: but why do they all need to be installed?
[05:11] <giiker> StrangeCharm: I did!
[05:11] <Baconizer> Are you sure they actually are?
[05:11] <Baconizer> thomson: they're probably on a menu for you to install
[05:11] <thomson> Bacoizer: i dunno, how do i tell?
[05:11] <giiker> StrangeCharm: I can now login with keys, and NX works beautifully!
[05:11] <EnragedOstrich> I thought Compiz was pretty simple to install
[05:12] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion
[05:12] <ravindu> with extra effcts?
[05:12] <Baconizer> ravindu: no
[05:12] <Baconizer> Stop trolling
[05:12] <Baconizer> >_>
[05:12] <thomson> Baconizer: how do i tell what hardware is installed?
[05:13] <EnragedOstrich> What's the best form of Ubuntu in your opinion, I think I have Gnome..
[05:13] <ravindu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7623821#post7623821
[05:13]  * Baconizer doesn't know
[05:13] <ayman> hi
[05:13] <Baconizer> Look at it
[05:13] <Baconizer> It should say somewhere
[05:13] <ayman> any body here to help me
[05:13] <fccf> !ask | ayman
[05:13] <Baconizer> You should know what you have installed
[05:13] <ravindu> here is the thread that show the errors
[05:13] <Baconizer> ayman: welcome to IRC
[05:13] <Baconizer> As "ubottu" just said, simply ask it
[05:14] <ayman> i have broken packeg
[05:14] <Baconizer> D:
[05:14] <ayman> how fix it
[05:14] <Baconizer> err
[05:14] <Baconizer> More detail
[05:14] <ravindu> how can I get my extra effects back?
[05:14] <Baconizer> Which version, Jaunty?
[05:14] <Baconizer> Which package?
[05:14] <Baconizer> Which arch?
[05:14] <ravindu> jaunty 9.04 64x
[05:14] <FloodBot3> Baconizer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <fccf> !details | ayman
[05:14] <Baconizer> fail
[05:15] <thomson> Baconizer: i know what i have physically installed, but i don't know what linux has installed
[05:15] <ayman> pid gin not work in my ubuntu i try to remove it and reinstall
[05:15] <ayman> and me
[05:15] <ayman> write in terrminal
[05:15] <EnragedOstrich> I have just been born into the world of Ubuntu Linux, everything is good and smooth, but will someone please help me install ePSXe?
[05:16] <ayman> sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[05:16] <SlickMcRunFast> When is dell going to release the Ubuntu Desktop again? I want to buy one right now!
[05:16] <Baconizer> thomson: sudo apt-get install pciutils
[05:16] <Baconizer> SlickMcRunFast: they stopped? D:
[05:17] <SlickMcRunFast> Baconizer, they only have laptops
[05:17] <SlickMcRunFast> I don't want a laptop
[05:17] <ayman> when i try to reinstall it its says   cant install pidign you have broken backages
[05:17] <EnragedOstrich> I'd take a net book, they are only 300-400$
[05:17] <gogeta> tell you ubuntu kernels are starting to suck
[05:17] <ayman> how to fix this proplem
[05:17] <Baconizer> thomson: then lspci -k
[05:17] <Baconizer> thomson: or, lsmod
[05:17] <ravindu> Anybody like look into my matter with compiz extra effects?
[05:17] <fccf> ayman: start with sudo apt-get update
[05:17] <gogeta> not even able to disable ipv6
[05:18] <ayman> and install pidgin agine
[05:18] <thomson> Baconizer: ok, thanks
[05:18] <Baconizer> thomson: if you know what your sound card is
[05:18] <Baconizer> :D
[05:18] <thomson> Baconizer: i do
[05:18] <ayman> and what
[05:18] <fccf> ayman: don't get ahead of yourself ... we are going to get apt up to date first to see if that fixes anything
[05:18] <thomson> wish there was something like everest for linux
[05:18] <EnragedOstrich> Anyone wanna help me install ePSXe?
[05:19] <ayman> ok
[05:19] <ayman> on second to try
[05:19] <ravindu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7623821#post7623821
[05:19] <WIGGMPk> can anyone tell me how to solve this situation? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7237821f the kernel and modules are not installed but it still references that kernel
[05:20] <giiker> queso: NP/quit
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !info pcsz-df
[05:20] <click_here> ubuntu says it can't mount my usb drive.  thoughts?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !info pcsx-df
[05:20] <LLStarks> how do log output?
[05:20] <LLStarks> the >file isn't catching
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> click_here:  mount it manually - look for error messages
[05:21] <EnragedOstrich> Is Gnome a type of Ubuntu? like Jaunty, or is it a program?
[05:21] <click_here> Dr_Willis, where do i look for error messages?
[05:21] <LLStarks> gnome = window manager
[05:21] <lstarnes> EnragedOstrich: it's a desktop environment
[05:21] <fccf> !gnome | EnragedOstrich
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> click_here:  in the terminal where you use the mount command to mount it manually... what is the filesystem of the drive?
[05:21] <ravindu> Gnome is desktop environment
[05:22] <Andorin> Can someone please help me figure out why my laptop, which normally connects fine to networks, will not connect to this specific unencrypted network?
[05:22] <zenlunatic> LLStarks, gnome is definitely not a window manager
[05:22] <lstarnes> LLStarks: it's not a window manager.  metacity and compiz are window managers.  gnome usually uses one of those two
[05:22] <click_here> Dr_Willis, i do not know the manual mount command
[05:22] <ravindu> and metacity,xfce,.. are window managers
[05:22] <fccf> EnragedOstrich: here is a howto for epsxe ... although we cannot support it further here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95835
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> click_here:  its 'mount'  :) with the proper options.
[05:23] <click_here> Dr_Willis, oh ok
[05:23] <fccf> Andorin: I'll give it an educated guess.... 1. what kind of router 2. what channel is it running on?
[05:23] <EnragedOstrich> fccf: I tried that, but I'll try again
[05:24] <EnragedOstrich> Be back in 20-60 mins
[05:24] <EnragedOstrich> Thanks for answering though
[05:24] <staticRails> Hi all, I wnat to copy all of the files in my home directory to my flash from the command line... anybody can help?
[05:24] <fccf> EnragedOstrich:  or like Dr_Willis suggested there is pcsx-bin and pcsx-df in the repositorys
[05:24] <EnragedOstrich> I tried PCSX, I didn't like it
[05:25] <click_here> Dr_Willis, i'm  not sure what I would call it.  i tried "mount usb drive" cause that is how is shows up
[05:25] <fccf> staticRails: cp ~/*.*  /media/flashstick
[05:25] <zenlunatic> fccf, n
[05:25] <zenlunatic> fccf, no
[05:26] <Andorin> fccf: 1, ClearAccess AG10W modem/router, and 2, how do I check that?
[05:26] <ayman> can any boody help me please
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !mount | click_here
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> click_here:  if its ntfs you need touse the ntfs-3g command to try to mount it.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | click_here
[05:26] <jkbc> Hey everyone
[05:26] <ravindu> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubottu,isnick
[05:26] <fccf> Andorin: can the wireless card see the accesspoint?
[05:26] <ravindu> sorry
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  i just cheat and install  the 'mc' file manager (its console based) and use it to copy things  (yes i am lazy)
[05:27] <Andorin> fccf: On my laptop? Yes, it sees the network. It just hangs on "Obtaining IP address." Accesspoint, I don't know. Sorry, noob.
[05:27] <jkbc> Just got an Aspire One today from woot.com. Put Netbook Remix on it and it's all working pretty well. For some reason though, websites I add to the app launcher don't have their favicon/assigned icons. Just a generic "gears" image.
[05:27] <ayman> help
[05:27] <zenlunatic> Dr_Willis, i use mc too ;)
[05:27] <jkbc> What's up ayman?
[05:27] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: THX
[05:28] <ayman> i have broken backages
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  once ya discover mc.. :) it becomes a must have tool
[05:28] <usr13_> Getting error that the user is not in the sudoers file.  What is this?
[05:28] <ayman> how to fix it
[05:28] <fccf> Andorin: strange... some accesspoints/card combinations don't work ... sometimes It can be a channel issue... ubuntu won't see above channel 11
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  only the first initial user has 'sudo' rights.
[05:28] <bashir> hi
[05:29] <bashir> how can i change my desktop to 8bpp
[05:29] <bashir> as in 8 bit color depth
[05:29] <bashir> i dont see any option anywhere
[05:29] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: As far as I know, this one is.  At any rate, I just checked and the user is in admin group
[05:29] <bashir> and the xorg.conf in 9.04 is lacking in proper sections
[05:29] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: What other issue should I look for?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  somthing is goofy then.
[05:29] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  not sure. ive never had the problem except when using  a different user.
[05:30] <Andorin> fccf: Someone once said something about "DHCP errors"... do you know anything about those?
[05:30] <jkbc> Just got an Aspire One today from woot.com. Put Netbook Remix on it and it's all working pretty well. For some reason though, websites I add to the app launcher don't have their favicon/assigned icons. Just a generic "gears" image. What am I doing wrong, or what's broken and how do I fix it?
[05:30] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: Yes, it is.  I set this up for a young man some time ago and he's somehow mucked it up.  Do not know what he's done.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  could be the users groups, or the sudoers file i guess..
[05:31] <fccf> jkbc: the app-launcher doesn't pull favicon .... firefox bookmarks do
[05:31] <bashir_> anyone have any ideas
[05:31] <bashir_> i would think it would be easy
[05:31] <bashir_> even easy in windows
[05:31] <jkbc> So when I can change the icon when adding to the launcher, that's a bit misleading?
[05:31] <click_here> Dr_Willis, thanks, i got it to work now
[05:31] <jkbc> I'd like to use some high quality icons instead of the favicons, but if Firefox pulls it that won't do me much good.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  heres my groups (well part of it) file --> grep willis /etc/group | pastebinit
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f12a12bb1
[05:32] <click_here> what is the best open source CD ripper / lossless sound player?
[05:32] <click_here> that works on ubuntu
[05:32] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: How about /etc/sudoers ?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> usr13_: http://pastebin.com/f48093598
[05:33] <smilenet> muhe'
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> usr13_:  i think those are untweaked by me.. :) i dont recall tweaking them
[05:33] <fccf> bashir_: I would reccommend asking in #xorg .. they know the interface a little better
[05:34] <EnragedOstrich> fccf: Bah, I have no idea what that help file means fccf
[05:34] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: how to solve the permission issues in mc? "cannot chown target directory "mnt/...." operation not permitted
[05:34] <Stanley> I'm in Add/Remove Applications and it's not letting me check off a box to add a program.. know why ??
[05:34] <JohnGalt> I've frshly installed hardy
[05:34] <JohnGalt> errr
[05:34] <JohnGalt> oops
[05:35] <WIGGMPk> can anyone tell me how to solve this situation? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7237821f the kernel and modules are not installed but it still references that kernel
[05:36] <click_here> does anyone have any recomendations for media player/song organizer program?
[05:36] <darkness> amarok
[05:36] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: how to solve the permission issues in mc? "cannot chown target directory "mnt/...." operation not permitted
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> click_here:  i like songbird and miro.
[05:36] <Andorin> click_here: Exaile > Amarok
[05:36] <zetanuxi> click_here: foobar under wine
[05:36] <click_here> so many choices
[05:36] <fccf> WIGGMPk: that kernel is way way #ubuntu+1 .... or even #ubuntu-kernel and really offtopic for this channel
[05:36] <darkness> Andorin: blasphemy!
[05:36] <jkbc> So when I add a bookmark from Firefox into the app-launcher, it will NEVER pull the icon or use the icon I point the dialogue box to? That seems... really silly.
[05:36] <click_here> do all of those rip lossless?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  you could chown the directory you are copying to - to be owned by your user...  or  run mc as root. but what filesystem are you copying to? vfat? ext2/3?
[05:37] <zetanuxi> click_here: foobar does
[05:37] <click_here> how about the others?
[05:37] <mm3> I just use my own tactics and play via VLC when I'm on my linux box.
[05:37] <Andorin> So... can anyone help me? With my wireless? My laptop normally connects fine to wireless networks, but it hangs on "Obtaining IP address" on this one specific, unencrypted network. Please help?
[05:37] <JohnGalt> I've frshly installed hardy on a p4 1.9ghz with 1.5 GB ram, and an onboard intel video card. I'm noticing that my system runs quite choppy,b wether compiz is on or not. Flash Videos are jerky (esp youtube), and even .mpg's struggle when dragging a window or going fullscreen. I understad the onboard video stinks, but is this behavior appropriate for my hardware or do i have a driver issue? please help!
[05:37] <fosa> what's the control for brightness?
[05:37] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: fat32 is my destination
[05:38] <fosa> ah, got it
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> fccf: not really since its way way NOT installed and neither are the modules.. this is a dpkg error and needs to get resolved.. I havent had the 2.6.31 kernel on my laptop for 3 weeks now.. and have downloaded updates since then.. all of sudden this came up
[05:38] <click_here> zetanuxi, does foobar play videos as well?
[05:39] <Andorin> click_here: VLC = best video player.
[05:39] <thomson> Can't create /var/lib/sysv-rc-conf : Permission denied at /usr/sbin/sysv-rc-conf line 454.
[05:39] <cycrosism> Is there a way to make my user the "root"
[05:39] <thomson> why?
[05:39] <JohnGalt> I've frshly installed hardy (gOS 3 to be accurate) on a p4 1.9ghz with 1.5 GB ram, and an onboard intel video card. I'm noticing that my system runs quite choppy,b wether compiz is on or not. Flash Videos are jerky (esp youtube), and even .mpg's struggle when dragging a window or going fullscreen. I understad the onboard video stinks, but is this behavior appropriate for my hardware or do i have a driver issue? please help!
[05:39] <Flannel> cycrosism: Why do you want to do that?
[05:39] <jkbc> Well this has been useless. back to XP I go I guess
[05:39] <cycrosism> Flannel, because when i go to save files it wont let
[05:39] <click_here> Andorin, i used media player classic for windows. because it has GPU support while VLC does not
[05:39] <fccf> WIGGMPk: sounds like dpkg is trying to process triggers after the fact ... you have some housekeeping to do
[05:39] <Flannel> cycrosism: Where are you trying to save them?
[05:40] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: There was no admin group.
[05:40] <Condoulo> ok, I recently switched to Opera, and one thing I noticed, probably due to the fact its QT based, is the fonts are not as smooth as they look like in GTK apps. How would I change those settings for GTK?
[05:40] <ravindu> hi how to refer for specific guy in channel when answering
[05:40] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: it doesn't let me to change the ownership of the directory on which I have mounted my flash...
[05:40] <cycrosism> Flannel, /var/www/
[05:40] <darkness> click_here: The best players are either for music only or video only
[05:40] <JohnGalt> ravindu: type their name. is there an easier way i dont know about?
[05:40] <WIGGMPk> fccf: well do you have any constructive advice other then referring me to another channel? I removed the 2.6.31 kernel with the normal "sudo apt-get --purge remove" method.. any thoughts?
[05:40] <Andorin> So... can anyone help me? With my wireless? My laptop normally connects fine to wireless networks, but it hangs on "Obtaining IP address" on this one specific, unencrypted network. Please help?
[05:40] <usr13_> I used groupadd and added group admin and then added the user to it.  Thanks for the help.  (Was obvious when I compared your /etc/group to ours.)
[05:40] <click_here> darkness, i guess that sounds right
[05:41] <usr13_> Dr_Willis: see above
[05:41] <JohnGalt> ravindu: type their name. is there an easier way i dont know about?
[05:41] <cycrosism> Flannel, so how would i do that
[05:41] <JohnGalt> I've frshly installed hardy (gOS 3 to be accurate) on a p4 1.9ghz with 1.5 GB ram, and an onboard intel video card. I'm noticing that my system runs quite choppy,b wether compiz is on or not. Flash Videos are jerky (esp youtube), and even .mpg's struggle when dragging a window or going fullscreen. I understad the onboard video stinks, but is this behavior appropriate for my hardware or do i have a driver issue? please help!
[05:41] <Flannel> cycrosism: You'll likely be better off simply giving yourself permission to write there.  sudo adduser yourusername www-data ; sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www && sudo chmod -R g+wX /var/www
[05:42] <cycrosism> Flannel, i just wanted my account to be root
[05:42] <Okay> how can i get a more accurate battery applet. I think the one i have is all lies
[05:42] <Flannel> cycrosism: What that does is add your user to the www-data group (which is what apache runs as), and then some permission magic to make it work like it should.
[05:42] <jigp> hello guys whats the best browser to suo apt-get isntall? (except firefox - i have already)
[05:42] <Flannel> cycrosism: You'll use sudo to do that then.  sudo cp source destination, etc
[05:42] <click_here> terminal is so powerful, lol, and i can barely use it.
[05:43] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, disable compiz/desktop effects
[05:43] <mm3> terminal is <3
[05:43] <mm3> yay for irssi too :3
[05:43] <ravindu> I think ubuntu ultimate projects is very important like countries like my own..havin snail internet.
[05:43] <jujuranes> Andorin are you sure the router isn't using MAC filtering?
[05:43] <JohnGalt> seaphor: i have
[05:43] <cycrosism> No Flannel what I ment was how do i make my account the root or something that allows me to write anywhere
[05:43] <Flannel> cycrosism: You don't want to do that.
[05:43] <Okay> how can i get a more accurate battery applet. I think the one i have is all lies
[05:43] <thomson> do i need to be logged in as root when i run applications from /usr/sbin
[05:43] <thomson> ?
[05:43] <darkness> jigp: I guess konqueror, but it's nowhere near as powerful as firefox
[05:43] <cycrosism> Flannel, yes i do
[05:43] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, set to "None" ??
[05:43] <JohnGalt> seaphor: im just not sure if this is how my pc should bge performing, or if there is a software issue
[05:43] <Bala> my desktop freeze help me plz
[05:43] <JohnGalt> yes...it's set to none
[05:44] <Bala> i can't right click my desktop
[05:44] <mm3> Bala: Intel Graphics?
[05:44] <Flannel> cycrosism: No, you really don't.  That's rediculously insecure, and there's no reason to do so either.
[05:44] <staticRails>  I cant change the ownership of the directory on which I have mounted my flash...
[05:44] <jigp> darkness: i just want to open my second gmail.i cannot open another gmail account in one browser hehehe
[05:44] <cycrosism> Flannel, its just a desktop that only I use so it's fine
[05:44] <Bala> mm3 yeah
[05:44] <staticRails> help please
[05:44] <Andorin> jujuranes: It says it's disabled.
[05:44] <qedx> cycrosism: i think if you don't know how to do it, you don't need to do it
[05:44] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[05:44] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, its "on" by default need to set to "None" ??
[05:44] <Okay> /home/michael/Desktop/rohos_mini.exe
[05:44] <darkness> jigp, then konqueror will be just fine
[05:44] <Okay> how can i get a more accurate battery applet. I think the one i have is all lies
[05:44] <JohnGalt> cyrosism: running as root is the worst possible idea
[05:44] <Flannel> cycrosism: No, even on a desktop system you don't want to run as root.
[05:45] <Jason2gs> *claps*
[05:45] <cycrosism> qedx, when i go to save files sometimes it won'y work i jsut want a way for it to save anywhere corerctly
[05:45] <darkness> jigp, it's a kde app though
[05:45] <Wizzel> Hey guys. I am trying to make another partition. I have the latest Ubuntu installed. Gparted will not do it while I am booting from the disk and gparted as a live CD fails. Any other options?
[05:45] <jujuranes> hm, weird.
[05:45] <jigp> darkness : thanks..whats the other browser that i could install?for gnome
[05:45] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, in System>Preferences>Appearance
[05:45] <JohnGalt> cycrosism: running as root is the worst possible idea. for reelz
[05:45] <cycrosism> i dont mind
[05:45] <JohnGalt> SeaPhor: yes. It is not a compiz issue.
[05:46] <zetanuxi> does anyone know any other way besides virtual machines to sync a zune in ubuntu?
[05:46] <dave_30> dxc xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpppppppppppppppppp;
[05:46] <qedx> cycrosism: why not just first save it within your home and then do a sudo cp to the final destination?
[05:46] <spikemcc> need help desesperatly with an Ati !!!
[05:46] <Flannel> cycrosism: Sorry.  But no, you don't.  And this channel will not help you do so.
[05:46] <darkness> jigp: i think it's called epiphany, but i don't know how good that one is
[05:46] <cycrosism> whatever your no help-
[05:46] <darkness> jigp, although i think it'll serve your needs just fine
[05:46] <Bala> mm3 give me any idea
[05:46] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, look at System>Admin..>Hardware Drivers...
[05:47] <Jason2gs> Heh, you guys lectured him just like you lectured me :D
[05:47] <Jason2gs> <3
[05:47] <spikemcc> someone can help or just help me get the xorg.conf and open source drivers from a live session ???
[05:47] <JohnGalt> SeaPhor: yes. although i have full resolution, i feel like my driver might be wrong, but lspci says i have an intel card, and intel cards are built in to the kernel, corrext?
[05:47] <Wizzel> Hey guys. I am trying to make another partition. I have the latest Ubuntu installed. Gparted will not do it while I am booting from the disk and gparted as a live CD fails. Is there any other options or partitioning programs that can schedule partitions when the computer reboots?
[05:47] <mm3> Bala: I'm thinking you're suffering from the infamous intel graphics bug in Jaunty
[05:47] <Bala> mm3 how to i get back?
[05:47] <wizzo> Magi; Twelfth-day
[05:47] <Okay> how can i get a more accurate battery applet. I think the one i have is all lies
[05:47] <JohnGalt> okay: why do you think that?
[05:47] <mm3> Have you tried to restart X?
[05:48] <SeaPhor> JohnGalt, well, what card do u have? is it intel?
[05:48] <Okay> JohnGalt, on max battery power, i get 15 minutes...?
[05:48] <Jeruvy> Wizzel: you could try using supergrubdisk, that should get you rolling.
[05:48] <Okay> JohnGalt, it's a new laptop too
[05:48] <JohnGalt> let me lspci to tell you exactly.i know its onboard. i just got this box from ebay...an offlease job
[05:48] <spikemcc> someone can help me to get graphics working on a dell inspiron 1501 laptop on ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS x64 with ati radeon xpress 1150 256 Mb ?
[05:48] <zetanuxi> spikemcc: ati drivers are a pain. you're trying to get them to run on a live disc?
[05:48] <Wizzel> Jeruvy: thank you very much!
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  for fat32 you have to mount the thing with the proper options to allow a user to write to it.. or write to it as root 'sudo mc'
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  fat32 wont rember/save the permissions/owbnership of the files.. so you will have to fix that when you restore them
[05:49] <WIGGMPk> I cant install anything because dpkg is trying to configure initramfs for a kernel I removed over 3 weeks ago.. Can anyone help me out? I cant install anything right now http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d7237821f
[05:49] <Bala> not yet it's working normally aftr restart
[05:49] <Jeruvy> Wizzel: np :)
[05:49] <JohnGalt> SeaPhor: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01
[05:49] <spikemcc> no it run perfect on the live cd and I have bugged my installation so maybe I could restore my graphics easily from a live cd ...
[05:49] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: I ran it using sudo mc
[05:50] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: what are the optoins?
[05:50] <wizzo> Jeruvy: Is that a free Ubuntu program, supergrubdisk
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  if your root user cant even write to it - then you got some odd issues going on.
[05:51] <zetanuxi> spikemcc: the update manager should provide the restricted drivers auto.
[05:51] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[05:51] <spikemcc> I got helped from #ati and #radeon but there is nothing that work but before open source driver, ati driver from both ubuntu and latest catalyst worked well ... I messed up my xorg when I tried to put my 2nd monitor
[05:51] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: how I can ask the command line to show the output of the cmd "mount --help" page after page?
[05:51] <Jeruvy> wizzo: no, its a stand alone product:  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[05:51] <Andorin> So... can anyone help me? With my wireless? My laptop normally connects fine to wireless networks, but it hangs on "Obtaining IP address" on this one specific, unencrypted network. Please help?
[05:51] <dave_30> whats the best option for syncing an ipod touch?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  command | less
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  or try 'man mount '
[05:51] <spikemcc> zetanuxi it's not working for it now ...
[05:51] <Wizzel> Jeruvy: is supergrubdisk something I would burn to a cd too, and then run at start up?
[05:52] <JohnGalt> SeaPhor: im just suprised at the slowness of this machine. i have a gig and a half of ram....even with onboard video and 1.9mhz..i should still be able to enjoy video with no jerks, right?
[05:52] <spikemcc> the last thing left is envy and it never worked well for me
[05:52] <Athunye> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Device 1062 (rev c0) What is the name of the module for this card ?
[05:52] <SeaPhor> then set to "none" and check your system-settings in System>Admin..>System monitor  make sure the RAM is accurate and that there is a swap partition
[05:52] <Jeruvy> Wizzel: yes.  you'll need to boot it from cd or usb floppy etc.
[05:52] <Wizzel> Jeruvy: thanks again
[05:53] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[05:53] <fccf> JohnGalt: I noticed you are using the Gos distro.... which is a direvitive version, and not normally supported here
[05:54] <r00tdigger> not to add to the list of ever growing questions but i did alot of searching before coming here, is there a place to get a driver(non intel) for my onboard intel 845, it's using 1810 right now and it's only showing 256k for gpu memory when it's 64mb..also i'm running bt4 pre
[05:54] <r00tdigger> i810*
[05:54] <SeaPhor> eddyeoq, have you plugged in speakers or headphones to test?
[05:55] <eddyeoq> saephor: yes
[05:55] <BABER> hi
[05:55] <JohnGalt> fccf: i understand. if it's any help, i did have the same issue on jaunty. i find that the users in here are typically more knowledgeable
[05:55] <ayllu> Hi... I need some help; when i click on the computer icon, all mi icnos from desktop desapear and the folder doesnt open
[05:55] <BABER> how can i understand all of my system information?
[05:55] <JohnGalt> fccf: sorry if im breaking the rules
[05:56] <dave_30> whats the best option for syncing an ipod touch?
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> dave_30: windows
[05:57] <eddyeoq> SeaPhor: pulseaudio volume monitor shows that there's sound but i cant hear it
[05:57] <Andorin> So... can anyone help me? With my wireless? My laptop normally connects fine to wireless networks, but it hangs on "Obtaining IP address" on this one specific, unencrypted network. Please help?
[05:57] <GhostWolf_> hi people.. i have a problem, i can't seem to log in to my desktop when the login screen shows up i enter the info and then login screen just appears again.. can anyone please help me?
[05:57] <fccf> JohnGalt: Unfortunatly I am running Hardy on intel hardware... and really cannot play video because this server is setup for audio streaming
[05:57] <fetusbubble> dave_30: windows is best like ^.. actually today i just killed my ipod trying to sync it in amarok
[05:58] <BABER> what command i can get all of my system information?
[05:58] <r00tdigger> GhostWolf_, try startx after login
[05:58] <SeaPhor> eddyeoq, that doesnt answer the question, the audio is going somewhere, plug in something to the external and see...
[05:58] <JohnGalt> fccf: so you think it's normal for me to have video trouble with 1.5gb of ram, and a 1.9mhz p4? I mean, i know it aint a monster, but it should be more htan enough, right?
[05:58] <SnakDoc> BABER hardinfo is a app that shows a lot of system info top is another non - gui
[05:58] <GhostWolf_> r00tdigger how do i do that?
[05:59] <Bob_Dole> Is there anyway to Overclock my Radeon 9200 in ubuntu? on windows I just download RivaTuner and all's good, I can OC it 50-100mhz and it plays my favorite game acceptably well...on linux, I get 10FPS.
[05:59] <agentzim> When trying to burn a CD using the live cd, "Error while burning.  The drive is busy"
[05:59] <sinjan> hi all
[05:59] <r00tdigger> after loging in you what do you see
[05:59] <GhostWolf_> r00tdigger btw im using kubuntu 8.04
[05:59] <eddyeoq> SeaPhor: i tried and nothing
[05:59] <SnakDoc> BABER also htop is a color verision that shows info depends what you are wanting to see
[05:59] <GhostWolf_> the login screen
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  with 10fps - i think you may need better video card drivers.
[05:59] <r00tdigger> after logging in?
[05:59] <fccf> JohnGalt: should be, but ya never know
[05:59] <Dday> has firefox 3.5 for ubuntu came out yet?
[05:59] <BABER> SnakDoc: there is not any command?
[05:59] <spikemcc> Bob_Dole > ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS + Ati catalyst 9.4 should do well
[05:59] <GhostWolf_> black screen appears as i logged in and the loggin screen appears again
[05:59] <GhostWolf_> yes
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | Dday
[06:00] <Bob_Dole> Dr_Willis, there doesn't seem to be a restricted driver. And It's Tremulous, based on the Quake 3 engine. And I think it was 8.10
[06:00] <Bob_Dole> ubuntu 8.10*
[06:00] <Dday> why is my update button greyed out in ubuntu then?
[06:00] <SnakDoc> BABER if you type top you get system info such as task manger would give also htop does same
[06:00] <EnragedOstrich> Bah! I am never gonna get ePSXe working
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  ati dumped the card from their fglrx drivers  - so you may be a bit out of luck.. unless you drop back to an older release of ubuntu/x/ati-drivers... (i dont use ati any more so thats all i know on the topic)
[06:00] <SnakDoc> BABER i like way htop looks my self sudo apt-get install htop
[06:01] <sinjan> anyone here have experience with X58 mobos?
[06:01] <GhostWolf_> ok since r00tdigger left can anyone else try to help me with my problem??
[06:01] <spikemcc> Bob_Dole put back 8.04 , 8.10 can do it but 8.04 is better in most cases
[06:01] <Dday> How do i update my firefox to 3.5 the update button is greyed out?
[06:01] <JohnGalt> fccf: for all i know i could be using a wrong driver. ive been using ubuntu for 3 years almost exclusively, but idon't know much about what goes on under the hood. I usually stick to the gui, and don't do much in terminal without the guidance of a forum or irc chan
[06:01] <lonejack> hi, is it possible to replicate a sistem configuration on another? My problem is this: I've a PC with an hd already configured(/boot, /,/home on three partitions). I would like to remount UBUNTU removing the actual hd, copying the /home on the new, but reinstalling all the previous sw packages on the new hd. Can somebody give me some advices?
[06:02] <BABER> SnakDoc: i want informatiom example cpu spees/ memory capacity / graphic ......
[06:02] <tkmr> Wooh! My powered by Ubuntu stickers finally came today!
[06:02] <fccf> lonejack: aptoncd
[06:02] <Bob_Dole> spikemcc, k, I'll see if I still got a disk lying around. and Stock Clocks on windows are just outside of playable. 20-25FPS most of the time, OC'd it's 25-35FPS most of the time.
[06:03] <fccf> tkmr: how long did that take? I ordered mine a week ago from system76
[06:03] <darkness> Dday, you have to install the package named firefox-3.5
[06:03] <SnakDoc> BABER hard info i think is what you are looking for
[06:03] <WIGGMPk> fccf: FYI, I ran "sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.31-rc1-candela -u" which yelled about not finding /lib/modules/2.6.31-rc1-candela so I made the directory with sudo, ran the command again and then ran "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and its fixed.. Now ill just remove the kernel with update-initramfs
[06:03] <darkness> Dday, use synaptic
[06:03] <sinjan> ok.... anyone know how to deal with jmicron raid controller? ^^;
[06:03] <GhostWolf_> i have a problem.. i can't seem to get passed the login screen on my nix box.. im using kubuntu 8.04 everytime i try to log in the login screen just reappears agin
[06:03] <spikemcc> Bob_Dole I got an Ati laptop on linux for years take the LTS you will be better ...
[06:03] <tkmr> fccf: it took forever, nearly three months I think, and it's literally right down the street from me.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> wowsers - the pcsx package in the repos.. worked..:) its playing FF7 here for me...
[06:03] <BABER> SnakDoc: hard info is gui but i want cli
[06:04] <Dday> darkness, how do i use the spm to update it?
[06:04] <lonejack> fccf: thank you very much!!!!
[06:04] <whattheazn> hi
[06:04] <fccf> tkmr: so you are in denver? that's a bummer
[06:04] <spikemcc> 8.04 with ati driver from ubuntu or thoses from ati if you work a little to make them work
[06:04] <fccf> lonejack: no problem
[06:04] <SnakDoc> barber you wanting to know how much cpu usage swap and stuff at moment i would try htop
[06:04] <sinjan> any other help channels for ubuntu..?
[06:04] <whattheazn> can anyone help me install iogear gwu623 in unbuntu 9.04. I have the cd but i don;t know how to install it
[06:04] <whattheazn> please
[06:05] <darkness> Dday, you can't 'update' it, since firefox-3.1 and firefox-3.5 are different packages
[06:05] <tkmr> fccf: a suburb of denver yes. Just don't give up hope. They WILL come... eventually. =)
[06:05] <Dday> so what do i do then?
[06:05] <GhostWolf_> can anyone help me with my problem please??
[06:05] <SnakDoc> braber iptraf will show lots of network info if thats what you are wanting to see in cli no sure of anything for gpu
[06:05] <fccf> whattheazn: what is a gwu623?
[06:05] <whattheazn> iogear usb wireless
[06:06] <darkness> Dday, you can, however, install firefox-3.5 and it'll show up as 'Shiretoko' in the menu
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Dday:  install firefox 3.5 packatge.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | Dday
[06:06] <Bob_Dole> If the PC I'm running the videocard on had SSE I'd just use my GeForce 6200, but it yells I need SSE to use openGL :/
[06:06] <buzzmandt> anyone with intel graphics think  the latest kernel graphics driver in karmic is "slow"?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> buzzmandt:  check in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <buzzmandt> thanks
[06:07] <whattheazn> i am new to unbuntu
[06:07] <GhostWolf_> i have a serious problem.. please help me.. i asked twice and basically no one has answered back
[06:07] <sebsebseb> whattheazn: what is that for a program?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Please State the Nature of the Linux Emergancy.
[06:07] <Bob_Dole> Ghost, I have no idea what your problem is.
[06:08] <eddyeoq> SeaPhor, i tried the built in speakers, i plugged in speakers, and headphones, but i didn't get any sound
[06:08] <GhostWolf_> i already stated twice..
[06:08] <lstarnes> GhostWolf_: have you tried changing the session type?
[06:08] <GhostWolf_> my problem is i can't get passed the login in screen when i enter my user/pass
[06:08] <sinjan> any guru help me?
[06:08] <GhostWolf_> lstarnes yes i believe i did..
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf_:  try logging in at the alt-ctrl-f1 console also..
[06:08] <sebsebseb> GhostGum: you need to reset your password?
[06:08] <whattheazn> i have the cd installation with linux files but i don't know how to install in ubuntu
[06:08] <SeaPhor> eddyeoq, ok, was just 1 to eliminate..
[06:08] <lstarnes> GhostWolf_: have you tried every session type, including failsafe ones?
[06:09] <whattheazn> it has .rpm files
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> whattheazn:  you burn the iso image to a cd.. and boot from it normally
[06:09] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: I think that's confusing for newbies, they are better off going to recovery mode and reseting their
[06:09] <GhostWolf_> lstarnes no i haven't
[06:09] <lstarnes> whattheazn: ubuntu generally does not use .rpm
[06:09] <basix> ubuntu rocks :)
[06:09] <whattheazn> oh
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> whattheazn:   huh? oh - i missunderstood. :) never mind.
[06:09] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: you need to reset your password?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  unless it DOES work in console.. then that shows its not a password issue..
[06:09] <GhostWolf_> Dr_Willis i tried that but someone earlier was trying to get me to get the logs and paste it here
[06:10] <GhostWolf_> sebsebseb no i can't get passed the screen itself i know my password..
[06:10] <eddyeoq> SeaPhor, what do you mean
[06:11] <zetanuxi> ghostwolf: is something being mistyped? capslock?
[06:11] <fccf> whattheazn: I think if you follow the directions here you should be able to get that to work http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-951683.html
[06:11] <GhostWolf_> zetanuxi no
[06:11] <whattheazn> thak
[06:11] <jeffjpeterson> how do i get ubuntu to stop brining pidgin to the foreground when i get a message?
[06:11] <nilc> Hi folks. I managed to dork my apt-get in a way that I can't get out of. Anything I do complains about dependencies and tells me to 'apt-get -f install'. I try that, but it always fails with lots of dpkg errors about post-removal scripts failing.
[06:12] <zetanuxi> ghostwolf: okay, knew it was probably a stupid question, but its happened to me more times than i care to admit.
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> jeffjpeterson: in pidgin, go to tools/notifications and turn it off
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> jeffjpeterson: i can't remember which one it is, but you'll figure it out.
[06:13] <jeffjpeterson> IndyGunFreak thanks man
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> jeffjpeterson: i think its nautilus integration, but don't hold me to it.. there's only a couple that are checked by default, so i'm sure you'll figure it out
[06:13] <GhostWolf_> zetanuxi if it was that i'd get login failed, the problem is when i enter my password it goes to a blank screen and the login screen appears again
[06:13] <jeffjpeterson> IndyGunFreak actually, i dont see anything about notifications in preferences
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffjpeterson: tools/plugins
[06:14] <jeffjpeterson> IndyGunFreak ah. just about to say i found the plug in
[06:14] <jeffjpeterson> IndyGunFreak thanks again
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> np
[06:14] <SeaPhor> eddyeoq, just an idea, 1 less to test
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> jeffjpeterson: i haven o idea why they done that, that is one of the most annoying things i've ever seen in my life.. i'm glad its easy to disable
[06:15] <GhostWolf_> i wouldn't mind reinstalling the os but theres files i wanna get and i can bring em to this comp but i doubt there is a way to do that without going into the desktop
[06:15] <Vinnnnn> Hey friends, does anyone know how to bind a hotkey in the terminal?
[06:16] <eddyeoq> ok
[06:16] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: you can access your Ubuntu partition and it's files, on the live session on the Ubuntu CD
[06:16] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: ,but if you used Wuib hmm
[06:16] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: Wubi
[06:16] <GhostWolf_> sebsebseb well i have the livecd still how would i get to that part??
[06:17] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: boot it and open the Ubuntu partition, as simple as that
[06:17] <morphias> is there a ubuntu development channel?
[06:17] <dhonie> tfujgyj
[06:17] <GhostWolf_> sebsebseb do i go to the os like as im trying it?? is that what you mean??
[06:17] <Vinnnnn> no one know how to bind a key? like bind f10 quit sorta thing.. but in the terminal.. I looked on google and couldn't find anything
[06:17] <prospire> is there any place in jaunty where key logs are saved??
[06:18] <prospire> from which I can retrieve?
[06:18] <prospire> the keylogs?
[06:18] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: you have data in the Ubuntu partition, you want to get hold of it?  then re install Ubuntu?
[06:18] <Vinnnnn> I doubt it prospire, it would be a pretty big security flaw
[06:19] <GhostWolf_> sebsebseb the reinstall would be if i can't get passsed this problem
[06:19] <prospire> Vinnnnn: even I think so
[06:19] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: and I am saying you can access the data on the Live CD
[06:19] <GhostWolf_> and if i have to yes i wanna get the stuff i have in that partition before i reinstall
[06:19] <prospire> but a person said me that logs are saved somewhere in jaunty
[06:19] <prospire> he didnt tell me the exact place
[06:19] <prospire> I just wanna check
[06:19] <GhostWolf_> i know sebsebseb im just asking i can do that by accessing the os as if im trying it you know the first option it has
[06:20] <jeffjpeterson> can i ask about xfce here or do i need to go to the xubuntu channel?
[06:20] <Vinnnnn> good luck with it prospire.. sounds like a pretty microsoft thing to do though :p
[06:20] <sebsebseb> GhostWolf_: yes that's how you do it
[06:20] <prospire> Vinnnnn: yah....microsoft :-D
[06:20] <GhostWolf_> ok..
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> jeffjpeterson:  depends on the question. :)  most of us in here dont use xfce.
[06:21] <prospire> ubuntulog: do u kne....since ur name is ubuntu'log'
[06:21] <bullgard4> At startup NickServ reports: "You are already logged in as bullgard4." Am I correct in assuming that my ~/.irssi/config file has a wrong entry?
[06:21] <jeffjpeterson> well, im trying to drag icons to the panel, but instead they just launch
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> jeffjpeterson:  i recall xfce dosent have that feature.. which i found very very annoying
[06:21] <SiL3nt-[X]> I am seeking help with my ubuntu os =\.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Please State the Nature of the Linux Emergancy.
[06:22] <Bob_Dole> Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[06:22] <SiL3nt-[X]> I cant install eggdrop on my vps.   I want to install a new ubuntu. I have a crashed old one to and need its home directory. I have tried to copy the home directory on my usb flash using mc... but permission issues prevented me.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> jeffjpeterson:  Hmmm.. i found gnome more customizeable.. but to each their own .. :)
[06:24] <bazhang> dhonie, please stop
[06:24] <dhonie> im not joke
[06:24] <Smart_> how to kill you ?
[06:24] <jnev> fluxbox is the most customizeable
[06:24] <dhonie> ohh no
[06:24] <Vinnnnn> staticRails: did you run sudo nautilus in the terminal?
[06:24] <jeffjpeterson> Dr_Willis true. thanks for the a's to my q's man.
[06:24] <Smart_> i am having KFC chickens
[06:24] <jnev> too bad it's not available by default on ubuntu
[06:24] <thomson> is it best to install drivers from the official web site or the software sources that ubuntu uses?
[06:25] <bazhang> Smart_, move along to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:25] <jnev> the web site is usually more up to date
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  if the root user can not copy files to the flash drive.. then its possible its either got a disk error and remounting read only.. or ntfs and not been cleanly unmounted.. or some other ways mounted wrongly
[06:25] <staticRails> Vinnnnn: i don't have gdm
[06:25] <sebsebseb> jnev: the website for nivida drivers will usaully mess stuff up
[06:25] <Smart_> bazhang , ok , i will stop that murder
[06:25] <cbuser> I need some help, I am having some problems getting ssl to work on my server
[06:25] <sebsebseb> thomson: you only get nivida drivers from the offical nivida site as a last resort, if the ones from the repo won't work
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> jnev:  youve never used sawfish then. :)
[06:25] <cbuser> can someone pm me and help me with the problems
[06:25] <SiL3nt-[X]> .
[06:25] <SiL3nt-[X]> Ummm requesting ssome help installing eggdrop on ubuntu please
[06:26] <jnev> I tend to use the repositories first and then if I need something else I'll get it from the website
[06:26] <jnev> nope never used sawfish
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> SiL3nt-[X]:  sudo apt-get install eggdrop eggdrop-data   should do it..
[06:26] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[06:26] <thomson> ok, just confirming :-D
[06:26] <tkmr> Any word on the intel video stuff?
[06:27] <SiL3nt-[X]> E: Couldn't find package eggdrop
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> tkmr:  care to be a little less vague
[06:27] <Vinnnnn> Guys, I have a command bound to Fn+Right arrow. It randomly raises or lowers the brightness.. what I want to do is find out what command it is running so I can fix it, does anyone know of a way to find out?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !info eggdrop | SiL3nt-[X]
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> SiL3nt-[X]:  its in the UNIVERSE repository in jaunty..
[06:27] <tkmr> Um... When 9.04 was released there was a lot of problems with intel video drivers and such, and none of the fancy compiz stuff worked anymore
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> is universe enabled by default? i forget.
[06:27] <SiL3nt-[X]> !info eggdrop
[06:27] <sebsebseb> tkmr: I think that's still the case now, maybe not
[06:28] <cbuser> QUESTION - I need help with setting up ssl on my server. http://beta.barebabies.com:443/ works but is not secure but https://beta.barebabies.com does not work
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> tkmr:  i fixed my intel systems weeks ago and use compiz on them now
[06:28] <SiL3nt-[X]> Lol wtf?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> tkmr:  theres some intel ppa repos with updated packagages (unsupported, user beware) :) but they worked on the 2 laptops i have
[06:29] <SiL3nt-[X]> Thanks Dr_Willis......more user friendly?
[06:29] <tkmr> Dr_Willis: Unsupported? Sounds like fun! =D
[06:29] <SiL3nt-[X]> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> tkmr:  i followed the docs at --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[06:30] <cbuser> Anyone?
[06:30] <kbp> I have a blank 500GB HDD to store backup image files (from partimage). I want to have 2 partitions. Should I format those 2 as logical (inside extended) or one primary and one logical? which one is better to use ?
[06:30] <tkmr> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[06:30] <onestep> hello! can someone help me to deal with network manager? :)
[06:30] <cbuser> Can someone please help me get set up with ssl?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> SiL3nt-[X]:  the eggdrop program is in the repos.. you may need to enable the universe reposiutory. and  theres no C Compiler installed on  ubuntu by defalt.
[06:30] <onestep> i
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !repo | SiL3nt-[X]
[06:31] <onestep> I'm using network-manager-pptp for PPTP VPN, and everything is fine, except there is no default route added for ppp0
[06:32] <onestep> route add default dev ppp0 solves the problem, but is there any way to add the default route automatically?
[06:33] <onestep> something like the 'defaultroute' option in pppd options, but for NM
[06:33] <eddyeoq> my sound isn't working, at all. im on a wubi install 9.04 64-bit. i can see the sound from PulseAudio Volume Meter, but i cant hear it.
[06:34] <staticRails> i am installing a new ubuntu ... in the migrate document and setting it doesn't recognize any os. but I have an ubuntu and a xp os. may I encounter a problem?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> eddyeoq:  your speakers are on? the volume turned up...... hmm.. lets see...     thats about all i an think of..
[06:34] <losher> kbp: you can have up to 4 primary partitions, so just make them both primary...
[06:35] <eddyeoq> Dr_Willis, yes
[06:36] <kbp> losher: any reason? :)
[06:36] <Amid> Hello, I have ubuntu 9.04, I am having trouble with my mobile broad band. Could anyone help? :D
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> I tend to always use primaries if i can.
[06:36] <Mike94287> What's the easiest way to run a local LAMP?
[06:36] <ravindu>  Moved to Jaunty from Intrepid No Compiz any more.why?
[06:36] <cbuser> Amid - I cant get anyone to help me either
[06:36] <Amid> What are you using?
[06:36] <ravindu> Details : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7623821#post7623821
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> ravindu:  intel video card?
[06:36] <Amid> I am on Sprint network.
[06:36] <ravindu> no nvidia
[06:37] <Mike94287> ravindu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance
[06:37] <Amid> cbuser - What problem are you having, I want to know if it is the same as mine.
[06:37] <losher> kbp: simply that's it's easiest and most straightforward. I'm not even sure why you want 2 partitions -- all my additional storage is just a single partition per disk...
[06:37] <ravindu> It's Nvidia
[06:37] <sirbob> how come ubuntu doesn't have the rocketraid drivers in the repositories?
[06:37] <sirbob> they are open source
[06:37] <cbuser> ssl setup problems using apache
[06:38] <Amid> cbuser - I am not smart with Ubuntu, so I have no idea what that means. lol
[06:38] <ravindu> Dr_Willis u got taht
[06:38] <moymoy> sirbob: it's probably in the kernel then
[06:38] <Amid> cbuser - Mine just won't connect, I choose my sprint network and nothing pops up for me.
[06:38] <kbp> losher: one partition for OS backup, one partition for data backup, its easier to manage (and in case one partition gets corrupted there is still something left :) )
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> ravindu:  perhaps rerun the hardware-drivers tool and let it see if it sees any updates
[06:38] <sirbob> moymoy: I don't think so, I had to install them
[06:39] <kbp> losher: anyway I have deleted the extended one and make both 2 primary as your suggestion
 I installed all the updates
[06:39] <losher> kbp: it's up to you, but there's nothing more annoying than running out of space on one partition when there's space on the other one. And ext3 is well nigh incorruptible under norrmal operating circumstances...
[06:39] <anirban> what is the difference between Webmin and Usermin ?
[06:40] <losher> isn't webmin obsolete?
[06:40] <losher> !webmin
[06:41] <kbp> losher: :S I formatted them ext2 because I think it's waste of space if use ext3... it's just for backup purpose so no need journal thing... is that right?
[06:41] <ravindu> ????
[06:41] <tarzeau> !usermin
[06:42] <tarzeau> anirban: no difference, both don't exist in debian
[06:42] <tarzeau> that's as good as yast/yast2 doesn't exist in debian either
[06:42] <anirban> ubottu : Are u sure that Webmin gives problem in Ubuntu .... ???
[06:42] <neax> .
[06:42] <Flannel> anirban: Yes.
[06:42] <tarzeau> anirban: very sure. it causes problems everywhere
[06:43] <tarzeau> anirban: the only gui admin tool that i've ever seen work properly was on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
[06:43] <tarzeau> anirban: nowhere else, ever
[06:43] <losher> kbp: I guess so. But isn't the point of a backup that it be reliable should you need it?
[06:46] <anirban> tarzeau : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStep ?? Openstep are u joking or serious ?
[06:46] <tarzeau> anirban: i'm serious. it's still far ahead of all other software i've seen (yes including mac os x0
[06:47] <Hilikus> how do i gunzip to a different directory?
[06:47] <tarzeau> anirban: your question makes me think you don't really get the advantages of it, simply because you didn't have your hands on it
[06:47] <tarzeau> Hilikus: put the file to a different directory, then gunzip it
[06:47] <Hilikus> tarzeau really? there has to be a better way
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  or cd to the dir..  then do   gunzip ../path/to/the/archive
[06:48] <tarzeau> anirban: have a look at http://livecd.gnustep.org/ and the screenshots for more details
[06:48] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis that doesnt work. it tries to gunzip them in-place
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  Hmmm... it did last i tried it.. then again i tend touse the 'unp' command these days
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[06:49] <losher> Hilikus: you can do: gunzip < compressed_file > uncompressed_file
[06:49] <rich33716> hello
[06:50] <jeffwheeler> How does gnome-mouse-properties' Touchpad panel set those properties? It doesn't seem to work with HAL (overrides values stored their), and goes directly to the driver, somehow.
[06:50] <Hilikus> hehe, i can't i'm unzipping a bunch of file
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  aha - im untaring them also. :) not just ungziping them.. gunzip dosent make a copy it undows theoriginal
[06:50] <Hilikus> i guess i'll just copy them like tarzeau suggested
[06:50] <jeffwheeler> I'd like to configure the mouse through fdi files (more options), but the gnome-mouse-properties panel always overrides my values.
[06:51] <rich33716> im sorry if i am in the wrong place. but can someone maybe offer me some quick help with an issue i am having? It would be much appreciated..
[06:51] <staticRails> in which directory are the packages cached?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  some arhive commands take a argument like '*.gz'  (note the quotes)  and it can do more then 1 archive that way. i know 'unzip' can do that.
[06:51] <phoe6> rich33716: just ask
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> !ask | rich33716
[06:51] <rich33716> i am having crazy trouble connecting my ubuntu box to my domain
[06:52] <rich33716> my dns server and DC are on the same box and the firewall is off but it keeps telling me that the ports are closed on the box
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> rich33716: can you ping the DC?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  gunzip has a -r (for recursive) option also it seems...
[06:53] <rich33716> yes but i cannot telnet to the required ports. however i can on the dns server
[06:53] <rich33716> my setup is DNS x.x.x.199 and DC is x.x.x.198
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> rich33716: if you can't telnet to the port then it is definately shut off as you can telnet into any port to test connectivity
[06:53] <Hilikus> ok so a better question then is, can i make grep look inside gzipped files?
[06:54] <ravindu> Moved to Jaunty from Intrepid No Compiz extra effects any more.why?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> rich33716: is one virtualised?
[06:54] <rich33716> no
[06:54] <anirban> What GUI based web hosting panel Ubuntu supports now ?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: you need to install video drivers again for the new kernel
[06:54] <rich33716> the box has 2k3 server and i assigned it 2 roles DC and DNS
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  Hmm... I think ive seen a 'archive-filesystem' thing for 'fuse' that lets you  mount archives and thus search in them.. but that may be overkill.. or awkward...
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  not sure of other ways...
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rich33716: well if they are the same box, how does it have 2 IPs for the same network?
[06:55] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis ok, i was just wondering
[06:55] <Hilikus> thanks a lot
[06:55] <ravindu> how to that I installed nvidia driver from nvidia also
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  you searching for a file name? or stuff In a file?
[06:55] <nomad77> Hilikus: man zcat maybe
[06:55] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis yes
[06:55] <Hilikus> stuff inside
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:55] <rich33716> and thank you for taking the time to answer my question by the way..
[06:55] <rich33716> :)
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rich33716: no sweat bro
[06:55] <spikemcc> is there a way to repair xorg, mesa, ati to get my graphics working ??? maybe to take the live cd graphics setup and put it on my setup ?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> spikemcc: you can boot to recovery mode in the installed systems grub and select fix graphics
[06:56] <ravindu>  lspci | grep -i vga I can not check it now but what you want to know?
[06:56] <barqers> Guys, how do I connect to my windows machine downstairs? I go to network, and inside FRANCOHOME I see my other computer, when I double click it prompts for user domain and password. I type in Dale, FRANCOHOME, and the password, and it does nothing?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: what it says your video card is
[06:56] <spikemcc> I don't think it will do ...
[06:56] <vise> Can I disable the (fn + up/down) brightness control management by ubuntu and leave it to the hardware? I want to do this as the step size is twice as compared to windows, and hence i cannot accurately control the brightness..
[06:57] <ravindu>  GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M/PCI/SSE2
[06:57] <staticRails> in which directory are the packages cached?
[06:57] <Hilikus> which log would tell me when i did a dist-upgrade ?
[06:57] <kbp> who here completely uses Ubuntu and no XP on their computer? please raise your hand
[06:57] <ravindu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7623821#post7623821
[06:58] <vise> kbp, Almost all
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: ok cool, then run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx-180
[06:58] <baz> barqers, the feedback isnt great in letting u know that its doing something but it seems to be getting held up along the network or authenticating... have you tried places > connect to
[06:59] <glitchd> can someone help with sound?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> !details |  glitchd
[06:59] <ravindu> udo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx-180 I tried this again and again not worked
[06:59] <glitchd> sound from speakers even when headphones are plugged in
[06:59] <glitchd> running 9.04
[06:59] <ravindu> even did dist-upgrade
[06:59] <sebsebseb> glitchd: what about it?
[07:00] <barqers> baz: No I've never tried that before. What would the server be? :S FRANCOHOME?
[07:00] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: I have installed a fresh ubuntu. My MB is intel dg31pr and its vga is onboard. How can I be sure that the vga driver is installed correctly?
[07:00] <richardcavell> I'm trying to get hibernate working on my laptop. My swap partition is large enough, and I have it listed in /etc/fstab. But it doesn't have a UUID associated with it. Does it have to have that for hibernate to work?
[07:00] <baz> try that and if it doesnt work get your ip
[07:00] <glitchd> i dont want my external speakers to play when i plug headphones in
[07:00] <baz> barqers, try that and if it doesn't work use the ip directly to test
[07:00] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: three are no hardwares listed in my hardware driver list (in the system menu)
[07:01] <baz> glitchd, go into volume control and mute the speakers there is a different control for them
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: read the command I gave, you didnt run the whole command
[07:01] <brianguertin> My sound is working perfectly in every way but when I play a CD the music is all staticy. Ripping the CD with sound juicer creates files with staticy music as well.
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[07:02] <staticRails> I want to copy the cache of my previous ubuntu to my fresh installe ubuntu. to have packages locally and not to download them again. anybody can help about where is located the cache of the my prev ubuntu?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> brianguertin: is your PCM volume at 0?
[07:02] <staticRails> I have installed a fresh ubuntu. My MB is intel dg31pr and its vga is onboard. How can I be sure that the vga driver is installed correctly?
[07:02] <ravindu> first I removed the nvidia and I installed again wht glx missing?
[07:02] <zetanuxi_> in the livecd, is there an option to boot into RAM?
[07:02] <ravindu> I update it always
[07:02] <staticRails> I have installed a fresh ubuntu. My MB is intel dg31pr and its vga is onboard. How can I be sure that the vga driver is installed correctly? three are no hardwares listed in my hardware driver list (in the system menu)
[07:03] <baz> barqers, let me know if it works
[07:03] <brianguertin> ActionParsnip: I dont believe it is, how can I be sure?
[07:03] <[R]> staticRails: do you see something on your screen? its installed correctly
[07:03] <barqers> baz: I entered the information into connect to, then it prompts for a password. I enter the password and the box closes, then reopens without any error dialogue. When I ping from terminal I get a response.
[07:03] <dragon_> zetanuxi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> brianguertin: amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[07:03] <baz> barqers, did u use the computer name or the ip?
[07:03] <staticRails> [R]: ya
[07:04] <ravindu> ActionParsnip please refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7623821#post7623821
[07:04] <barqers> baz: I tried both. The IP was <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:04] <ARMENIAN> when I run a script with the command import pygame I get a message saying ImportError: No module named pygame
[07:04] <richardcavell_> I have a laptop that cannot resume from hibernate. In my /etc/fstab file, I have the swap partition listed there without a UUID. Does it need to have a UUID for resume to work properly?
[07:04] <Flannel> richardcavell_: Nope
[07:04] <brianguertin> ActionParsnip: there is not PCM, "Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0"
[07:04] <R0b0t1> I am trying to run a heap memory as a C function, normally this would work, but for some reason it does not and segfaults. I am pretty much sure at this point it is something in Ubuntu, does anyone know if there's any specific thing in ubuntu that may cause my program to not work?
[07:04] <staticRails> I have installed a fresh ubuntu. My MB is intel dg31pr and its vga is onboard. How can I be sure that the vga driver is installed correctly? three are no hardwares listed in my hardware driver list (in the system menu)
[07:04] <baz> barqers, both computers are on a simple home network shared through 1 router?
[07:04] <richardcavell_> Flannel: I wouldn't have thought so.
[07:05] <dragon_> !repeat | staticRails
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> brianguertin: then open your volume app and make sure everything is cranked
[07:05] <barqers> baz: Yes, one D-Link router. I checked in the settings and found the other IP address as well as my own. I setup the home network on the computer downstairs as FRANCOHOME rebooted into safe mode and allowed changes to be made.
[07:05] <ambr> hey, i had a nice working ufw setup on my server, and just now enabled ipv6 .. it seems to only work with ufw disabled though, even though i've set IPV6=yes in the config, and re-added the rules in question
[07:06] <brianguertin> ActionParsnip: I have, everythings fine, And all audio sounds great except playing from any CD
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: Checking for Xgl: not present.  and libpng error: Read Error   aren't great.
[07:06] <ambr> ie: i have - 22                         ALLOW   Anywhere (v6) - in the status, and yet ssh traffic over ipv6 is blocked
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: i'd ask in #compiz
[07:06] <glitchd> baz, that didnt work
[07:06] <baz> barqers, have you ever been able to connect to the downstairs computer from another machine?
[07:07] <ravindu> thanx ActionParnsip
[07:07] <jiayan> ..
[07:07] <Vinnnnn> Hey guys, im writing a shell script that needs to run sudo.. is there a way I can run the sudo command in the script without having to type the password every time?
[07:07] <barqers> baz: Yes, when I switch onto my Windows Partition I can view and make changes perfectly.
[07:07]  * Until_It|Sleeps is now away: Sleeping
[07:07] <ravindu> what mean Bean count on ubuntuforum?
[07:07] <R0b0t1> Vinnnnn: After one sudo is called, it should keep the password for a while.
[07:07] <barqers> Downstairs is running XP Pro, I'm dual-booting Windows 7 RC and Ubuntu 9.04 upstairs.
[07:08] <richardcavell_> ravindu: number of posts
[07:08] <Vinnnnn> R0b0t1: Oh ok.. so even if it runs the script and kills the terminal, if I run it again it should remember the passwrid>
[07:08] <staticRails> I have installed a fresh ubuntu. My MB is intel dg31pr and its vga is onboard. How can I be sure that the vga driver is installed correctly? three are no hardwares listed in my hardware driver list (in the system menu)
[07:08] <baz> barqers, in 'connect to' choose 'windows share' and then only fill out your IP then click connect then follow the prompts
[07:08] <dragon_> Vinnnnn: though it's not advisable, you can add a flag "NOPASSWD" in front of your username to allow sudo without password.
[07:08] <anirban> What GUI based web hosting panel Ubuntu supports now ?
[07:08] <ravindu> thanx richardcavell
[07:08] <R0b0t1> Vinnnnn: Yeah
[07:09] <_Apple_> I need to add a resolution to my second display and I've had no luck with modelines any ideas?
[07:09] <R0b0t1> Vinnnnn: But only for like 5 minutes.
[07:09] <richardcavell_> staticRails: doesn't that only apply to proprietary drivers
[07:09] <dhonie_> test
[07:09] <baz> barqers, also as a test completely disable your firewall downstairs
[07:09] <dragon_> Vinnnnn: for more info, `man sudoers`
[07:09] <bazhang> dhonie_, stay on topic
[07:09] <richardcavell_> staticRails: I thought that ordinary drivers don't show there
[07:09] <dhonie_> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:09] <dhonie_> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:09] <dhonie_> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:09] <FloodBot3> dhonie_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <Vinnnnn> dragon_: How would I go about doing that?
[07:09] <GhostWolf_> dhonie don't flood
[07:09] <Vinnnnn> dragon_: How would I go about adding the flag?
[07:09] <barqers> baz: Okay will go disable firewall and try thank. Thank you for your help so far!
[07:10] <GhostWolf_> oohps sorry thought i was in another channel sorry if i overstepped..
[07:10] <Vinnnnn> dragon_: sorry, didn't see your other message
[07:10] <richardcavell_> My Macbook cannot resume from hibernate (suspend to disk). My swap partition is big enough. Any ideas?
[07:10] <anirban> What GUI based web hosting panel Ubuntu supports now ?
[07:11] <jussi01> anirban: you mean like ebox?
[07:11] <jussi01> !box | anirban
[07:11] <jussi01> !ebox | anirban
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell_: make sure your backups are recent, boot to a live cd or USB boot and resize
[07:11] <richardcavell_> ActionParsnip: resize the partition?  Why?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell_: if a partition isnt big enough, make it big enough by resizing it
[07:12] <richardcavell_> ActionParsnip: No, I'm saying it's big enough. My RAM is 3 Gig. My swap partition is 3.2 Gig
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell_: misread, sorry
[07:13] <_Apple_> I need to add a resolution to my second display and I've had no luck with modelines any ideas?
[07:13] <vise> richardcavell, Whats the error?
[07:13] <Hilikus> how do i make ubuntu see my windows shares?
[07:14] <Hilikus> it sees the workgroup but not the computers in it
[07:14] <Vinnnnn> thanks R0b0t1 and dragon_
[07:14] <michael__> Can you ping them?
[07:14] <Hilikus> aaah nm, after refreshingf 5 times it worked
[07:14] <R0b0t1> I am trying to run a heap memory as a C function, normally this would work, but for some reason it does not and segfaults. I am pretty much sure at this point it is something in Ubuntu, does anyone know if there's any specific thing in ubuntu that may cause my program to not work?
[07:14] <Ace891> lol, I find that typing smb://[ip address of computer] works well
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell_: what happens when you attempt a hibernate?
[07:15] <richardcavell_> ActionParsnip: It seems to hibernate okay
[07:15] <richardcavell_> ActionParsnip: It's waking up that's the problem
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell_: ok, what happens / doesn't happen exactly
[07:15] <vise> richardcavell, Don't you see any specific error while resuming that prevents it?
[07:16] <Vinnnnn> Does anyone know how to change the sudo timeout? For example, if I want it to remember the sudo password for x minutes?
[07:16] <losher> R0b0t1: sorry, but it's far more likely you've made a programming error....
[07:16] <richardcavell_> ActionParsnip: and vise: I'll do it now and get back to you with the exact messages
[07:16] <R0b0t1> losher: No, no, sorry, I'm at the point where I've checked it too much.
[07:16] <zetanuxi_> does anyone know how to sync a zune in ubuntu? virtual machines dont work for me.
[07:16] <baz> Vinnnnn, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-763142.html
[07:17] <R0b0t1> losher: It's more likely there's some kind of thingy that watches programs that make jumps to places outside of their process space or something.
[07:17] <R0b0t1> But I wouldn't know those.
[07:17] <Vinnnnn> perfect, thanks baz
[07:17] <Ace891> Could you use a stack trace?
[07:17] <Ace891> I am not 100% sure I understand the question (only a novice programmer)
[07:17] <R0b0t1> Yeah, I only know it segfaults when I try to call the char array.
[07:18] <R0b0t1> But that doesn't tell me much...
[07:18] <Ace891> hmm, array out of bounds error maybe?
[07:18] <barqers> baz: Okay, I reset permissions to everyone, turned off firewall, and still it does not seem to go beyond password dialogue.
[07:18] <newbuntu> greetings, I am having trouble with bugzilla,, can someone help me ?
[07:18] <R0b0t1> That's possible, but I highly doubt it.
[07:18] <vise> R0b0t1, Something to do with the execute disable bit of the processor?
[07:18] <mjs22> R0b0t1: are you trying to load code into an array on the heap and just jump to it?
[07:18] <R0b0t1> I have a RET at the end of my array.
[07:19] <brianguertin> Playing an audio cd is very staticy, playing music from any other source is perfect.  I can't figure this out.
[07:19] <newbuntu> greetings, I am having trouble with bugzilla,, can someone help me (it's a configuration thing I think) ?
[07:19] <R0b0t1> mjs22: YEah
[07:19] <baz> barqers, hmm, let me think here...
[07:19] <R0b0t1> I call mprotect though -.-
[07:19] <Ace891> Brian, what player are you using?
[07:19] <jsq> hello! all of the sudden i cannot sudo or gksu, or login to a tty... can't figure out the problem.. just installed amarok in gnome, don't think that would matter
[07:19] <barqers> baz: My thoughts exactly.
[07:19] <baz> barqers, hehe. what kind of perms did you reset?
[07:20] <EnragedOstrich> Will someone walk me through installing ePSXe?
[07:20] <jsq> this is all i get: julian@julian-desktop:~$ sudo su
[07:20] <jsq> [sudo] password for julian:
[07:20] <jsq> julian@julian-desktop:~$
[07:20] <baz> barqers, did u share using the windows wizard share thinggy
[07:20] <Ace891> I have never done ePSXe in Linux, only Windows
[07:20] <Ace891> you could try it with wine
[07:20] <vise> R0b0t1, So you do a PROT_EXEC on mprotect?
[07:20] <brianguertin> Ace891: Well right now, sound Juicer. If i rip songs then the songs themselves have static even when played on my mp3 player
[07:21] <barqers> baz: Rebooted into safe mode with networking then right clicked each folder and under properties and security I set all accounts to "Full Control"
[07:21] <R0b0t1> vise: Yes.
[07:21] <EnragedOstrich> What is Wine?
[07:21] <barqers> baz: Which wizard share thingy lol
[07:21] <kraut> moin
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> jsq: try    sudo -i
[07:21] <Ace891> Have you tried another program, like RythymBox or Amorak (something like that)
[07:21] <brianguertin> Ive tried VLC, Kaffeine, etc, everything plays CDs statically, but music I already have plays perfectly
[07:21] <jsq> no, same thing
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> jsq: you will get an interactive sudo which is advised over sudo su
[07:21] <indus> EnragedOstrich: it helps ostriches calm down and relax
[07:22] <baz> barqers, there's a separate 'sharing' tab next to permissions - also i dont think u have to go in safemode all the time - is it back in regular mode when u are testing the connections?
[07:22] <Ace891> must be a lib issue then
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> jsq: are you a member of the admin group, if you run     groups    you can check
[07:22] <Ace891> Ostrich, go to www.winehq.com to research.  It is an api layer that allows some Windows applications to run
[07:22] <jsq> yes.. also i cannot login to i tty at all
[07:22] <losher> R0b0t1: are you able to step through it in the debugger & see the exact point you get the segv
[07:22] <jsq> a tty*
[07:22] <brianguertin> well it sucks I cant save my music because all the files end up staticy, I don't know when it started happening
[07:22] <barqers> baz: Good question, lol, I might've forgotten the sharing property. Let me go have a look.
[07:22] <newbuntu> Ostrich: wine is not an emulator
[07:23] <whattheazn> i have problem instaling my iogear gwu623 usb wireless in ubuntu? i have the installation with linux driver. How do i install it?
[07:23] <Ali_nz> if i run a command in terminal, that takes ages, is there a way to login to that session  from another PC, wihtou tinteruppting the command, to see where its at?
[07:23] <jsq> was working fine for a year.. now all the sudden i can't do anything admin or tty..
[07:23] <newbuntu> greetings, I am having trouble with bugzilla page comes up blank. Any one have any ideas?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> jsq: what have you changed recently?
[07:23] <jsq> must have been something i did in aptitude
[07:23] <EnragedOstrich> Wow, really. I wonder if it will work
[07:23] <losher> Ali_nz: which command?
[07:24] <Ali_nz> losher: ddrescue
[07:24] <Dabian> When I open some applications, like Evolution and Gwibber.  It asks me to supply a password to open a keyring or something.  Thats very fine, but for some applications I'd just like it to start up without asking me.  Is this possible?
[07:24] <jsq> i deleted some xubuntu-desktop packages, but made sure i still had all the ubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <Ali_nz> i could use a remote desktop session, but its a slow connection so terminal session would be better
[07:24] <jsq> and installed amarok.. that's all i did
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> jsq: not sure that would affect it, could try reinstalling them to test
[07:24] <R0b0t1> losher: I might be doing this wrong, but I can only step through lines of my .c file, and that just gives me the line where I try to call it. Would there be another way (in case it segfaults on the RET or something, but I don't think this is the case, but w/e)
[07:24] <EnragedOstrich> I had ePSXe on windows, but now I completely reformated to Ubuntu, will I have to partition part of my HDD for wine?
[07:24] <jsq> i can't install anything :P
[07:24] <EnragedOstrich> or Pay for it...
[07:24] <Ace891> no
[07:25] <newbuntu> Ostrich: the few times I've used it I was really impressed,
[07:25] <vise> R0b0t1, mprotect returning no error?
[07:25] <R0b0t1> No, no error.
[07:25] <EnragedOstrich> Yeah, Sounds cool
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> jsq: then boot to root recovery console, make a new user and add it to the admin group
[07:25] <Ace891> What version of ubuntu are you running Ostrich
[07:25] <Monona> !pastebin
[07:25] <newbuntu> Ostrich: it makes windows seem pixelated, linux seems smooth and beautiful
[07:25] <jsq> ok.. will try that
[07:25] <mjs22> R0b01: have you tried running it under strace to see where it dies?
[07:25] <jsq> thanks
[07:25] <EnragedOstrich> I might put all my Emulators in it if it works
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> jsq: remember to set its password and try logging in as that user, see if it is all users or only the user you have logged in
[07:26] <jsq> was about to but i didn't hit a key in grub fast enough
[07:26] <R0b0t1> mjs22: If you're talking about which function it dies in, I already know, inside main when in function ?? (when I do "((void (*)())func)();")
[07:26] <barqers> baz: That's bizarre as heck. When I went into Sharing & Security (not in safe mode). It notified me that windows had disabled remote access and all I had to do was redo the network wizard. It amazes me how Windows 7 RC could connect though? Oh well. Thanks for the help!
[07:26] <vise> R0b0t1, Does it go this way: You load code from a file.. and say manipulate it and then call mprotect to enable execution and then jump to it?
[07:26] <newbuntu> EnragedOstrich: my suggestion would be to dump windows all together, what ever it is you want it for (minus WoW) linux probably has a better solution that you don't know about
[07:26] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey all
[07:27] <_Apple_> I need to add a resolution to my second display and I've had no luck with modelines any ideas?
[07:27] <Ace891> I have seen WoW ran under Linux anyway.  But I forget the distro/config/program/etc...
[07:27] <owen1> for ruby development, do i need to install ruby-dev or is ruby and rubygems enough?
[07:27] <newbuntu> EnragedOstrich: also you might get a virus, (less likely than the Redmond garbage though)
[07:27] <WhoNeedszzz> I'm having an issue where (doesn't matter which browser) a random page i've been visiting frequently (usually google) will all of a sudden show up blank. What's the problem?
[07:27] <mjs22> R0b0t1: I guess I was curious if it dies inside the function being jumped to, or dies immediately when you try to jump.
[07:27] <R0b0t1> vise: Yes, I try to run it like that (although no file stuff, just char f[] = {0x90, 0x90, 0x90, 0x90, 0xC3}; which I memcpy to a heap location.
[07:27] <baz> barqers, great! at least it works, who cares why! But honestly you should almost never ever have to go into safe mode for anything - its possible that whatever u did in there wasnt saved properly when u went back in or something
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: try clearing your browser cache and history
[07:28] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: I do every time i close the browser
[07:28] <ravindu> why nobody in #compiz?
[07:28] <Ace891> I agree with the other Ostrich, however there are some of us (like me) that because of school and other issues, cannot just dump Windows.  So Wine comes in handy
[07:28] <vise> R0b0t1, So C3 is ret, which should return to where you called from .. right?
[07:28] <losher> R0b0t1: I would use adb to try & debug it....
[07:28] <barqers> baz: True. Oh well. Windows is strange. Hah. Thanks again. Only use it for gaming.
[07:28] <newbuntu> WhoNeedszzz: I had a similar issue like 3 years ago, did a reboot to fix
[07:28] <baz> barqers, no worries
[07:29] <losher> Ali_nz: if you can ssh into the machine, you can watch its progress, or even run ddrescue remotely....
[07:29] <WhoNeedszzz> newbuntu: hmm I can try that
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: try creating an extra profile in your browser to see if its that
[07:29] <R0b0t1> vise: Yes.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: do you use firefox like everybody else does?
[07:29] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: It doesn't matter which browser
[07:29] <WhoNeedszzz> yes
[07:29] <WhoNeedszzz> but i've tried in Opera and Epiphany
[07:29] <WhoNeedszzz> same issue
[07:29] <Monona> I can't get the wired network working on my newly salvaged desktop.  The network manager registers the network connection, and the DNS is configured properly, as far as I can tell.  Here's the output from some commands that were suggested on the forum: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219559/
[07:29] <Ace891> ostrich, if you are using ubuntu 9.04 (or others, I dunno) just use the Synaptic Package Manager and search for Wine when All is selected.  Take the one from there.  It installs easily
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: i its browser independant it may be your provider
[07:30] <newbuntu> WhoNeedszzz: sounding like a non-browser issue,, did you try links or wget  as a sanity check?
[07:30] <MelisU> Helllo, how do I brutally force package removal? dpkg -r --force-all does not work ?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: try turning off your router (if you have one) as well as the modem (i it isnt built into the modem)
[07:30] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: well no it has to be something with Jaunty bc my friend was over using hardy and it didn't have the issue
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: worth a try
[07:30] <mjs22> R0b0t1: If it's small, you can post the misbehaving code on pastebin.com.
[07:30] <vise> R0b0t1, I guess there could be a few things you could try. 1. Disable all optimizations of the compiler. 2. Print in hex the destination code (in the heap) and verify it's the same. 3. Step debug into the assembly.
[07:31] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: That sometimes fixes it, but then it happens again
[07:31] <Ace891> Monona, are you setting it to DHCP or Static IP?
[07:31] <R0b0t1> mjs22: http://codepad.org/uArd7ZD4
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: can you ping the pages you have seen the issue on, see if it fails ever
[07:31] <newbuntu> greetings, I am having trouble with bugzilla page comes up blank. Any one have any ideas?
[07:31] <Ace891> I have never used bugzilla...
[07:31] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: It's working now
[07:31] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: It goes in and out
[07:32] <zetanuxi_> newbuntu: no idea. had to google it to find out what it was.
[07:32] <Monona> Ace891:  Network Settings says DHCP (what does that mean?)
[07:32] <Vinnnnn> does anyone know of a way to get a single sudo to run multiple commands? ie sudo "command 1; command 2"
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: i'm saying its a flakey driver. are you using iwl3895 ?
[07:32] <newbuntu> zetanuxi_: bug tracker, seems pretty good, I'm new to it though
[07:32] <HotShowers> Vinnnnn: what about sudo -i
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Vinnnnn: easy:  sudo command1; sudo command2; sudo command 3
[07:32] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: for?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: a wireless adapter?
[07:32] <EnragedOstrich> Hey, how do I know what type of Ubuntu I have Dapper/Jaunty/others
[07:33] <Vinnnnn> ah fantastic
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> EnragedOstrich: lsb_release -c
[07:33] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: i'm using ethernet
[07:33] <Vinnnnn> thanks guys, feel like an idiot now, hahaha
[07:33] <indus> ActionParsnip: single sudo to run multiple commands
[07:33] <indus> ActionParsnip: not 3 on a single line
[07:33] <EnragedOstrich> ActionParsnip: I don't know what that means
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> indus: sudo -i then, but both will work
[07:33] <losher> R0b0t1: man mprotect says addr must be page aligned. Is it?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> EnragedOstrich: its a terminal command
[07:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: i thought we coul dsudo &&?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: the ; and && can be used to string multiple commands on one line
[07:34] <HotShowers> EnragedOstrich: cat /etc/*-release
[07:34] <R0b0t1> losher: ........ Is there any way to allocate page-aligned memory?
[07:34] <Ace891> vinnn, just do sudo su
[07:34] <Vinnnnn> well, what I needed was a way to run echo 100 > blah blah, but for some reason the sudo runs the echo, then doesn't run the 100 > blah blah
[07:34] <EnragedOstrich> Okay, I have Jaunty
[07:34] <EnragedOstrich> Thanks
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: && means 'do the next step ONLY if the previous passed'   ; means 'do the next step'
[07:34] <MelisU> Hello, how do I force package removal? sudo dpkg -r --force-all bluez does not work ..
[07:35] <vise> R0b0t1, mprotect upon successful completion, returns 0 right?
[07:35] <losher> R0b0t1: dunno. You may need to ask on a developer's group. Also, the len field is a pointer to a size_t according to the man page. Dunno if that's a typo or not...
[07:35] <R0b0t1> vise: Yeah, it's not returning any other number for me.
[07:35] <mjs22> R0b0t1: that code snippet you posted segfaults for you?  Ran fine for me.
[07:35] <vise> R0b0t1, Your code seems to be printing an error if it returns zero..
[07:35] <Vinnnnn> ok, and lastly, I need to run sudo su and then terminate it straight away, so the script can run the next command
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: tried the cable that is used by the other system as you know it is good, or a different port on the connection device
[07:36] <R0b0t1> Yes, but I see no message.
[07:36] <EnragedOstrich> Wow, WineHQ is in the Add/Remove Programs
[07:36] <Vinnnnn> sorry for this guys, but everyones been so helpful
[07:36] <R0b0t1> That's pretty much the point.
[07:36] <Vinnnnn> terminate the command I mean
[07:36] <R0b0t1> mjs22: That is why I find it extremely odd.
[07:36] <R0b0t1> Er
[07:36] <R0b0t1> Oh crap.
[07:36] <Ace891> sudo su just puts you into admin mode until you type exit
[07:36] <R0b0t1> /fail
[07:36] <mjs22> heh
[07:36] <vise> R0b0t1, So do you see an "err"?
[07:36] <cn28h> R0b0t1, how about mmap()
[07:36] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: the other device was using the wireless, tried the wireless on my laptop (Jaunty) and didn't change anything (laptop has same issue).
[07:36] <R0b0t1> vise: Indeed I do.
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> EnragedOstrich: if the version in the repo is no good to you, try the one on the wine repo: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[07:37] <R0b0t1> Still don't know why it runs for mjs.
[07:37] <indus> MelisU: how about --force-yes
[07:37] <jsq> ok, i added a new user, added them to admin group, no luck with sudo, still doesn't work. let my find the packages i uninstalled..
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: bizarre
[07:37] <vise> R0b0t1, Runs for me too
[07:37] <vise> R0b0t1, Did you change the compiler recently?
[07:37] <losher> R0b0t1: mprotect fails for me....
[07:37] <R0b0t1> vise: Not beside regular ubuntu updates.
[07:38] <Ace891> jsq, you can try actually logging in as root, but you have to enable it first if it's not
[07:38] <MelisU> indus: not working :(
[07:38] <jsq> i could log in as root
[07:38] <anirban> Hello to all!
[07:38] <vise> R0b0t1, Oh yes.. it doesnt print a message for me too.. so it fails i think..
[07:38] <indus> MelisU: try --force-depends
[07:38] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I type "sudo /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate" and my screen goes completely black, then turns on in text mode and I get a cursor at the top-left of the screen, blinking. Presently I get three error messages that look like: [328.685635] btusb_intr_complete:hci0 urb fff8800a078d80 failed to resubmit(1). Then a cursor below that blinks. The CPU fan turns on. I have to do a hard reboot to get out of it.
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: i'm gonna say its a dodgy cable, the port on the outer is flakey or the driver needs a few parameters to be made nice.
[07:38] <indus> MelisU: this will not remove dependencies
[07:39] <anirban> Hello web5|org|u
[07:39] <Freke88> How do you start the Intel Fortran compiler?
[07:39] <R0b0t1> Ffs. For some reason what I'm trying to do works in OSX, but not in Linux on the same comp.
[07:39] <mjs22> mprotect returns -1 for me.  so yes, mprotect is failing.
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> WhoNeedszzz: have you tried re-inserting the cable, to check its properly connected
[07:39] <MelisU> indus: I already tried most of the force options .. not working
[07:39] <vise> R0b0t1, Yep.. mprotect fails and returns -1 for me too
[07:39] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: yep
[07:39] <indus> MelisU: what is the error
[07:39] <anirban> I thought Ubuntu to be secure!
[07:39] <web5|org|ua> HOW to load at boot stage ndiswrapper (wifi) driver with all settings for wifi ?
[07:40] <R0b0t1> vise: But does it fail with a segfault? I think mprotect just might be failing, but still running the code.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: try sudo rmmod btusb   then hibernate
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> anirban: its as secure as its config
[07:40] <jsq> libgdl-1-0, libgdl-1-common, python-gnome2-extras, python-xlib, exo-utils, libexo-0.3-0, xfconf, app-install-data-commercial, boo, libapr1, libaprutil1, libboo2.0-cil, some other libs
[07:40] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Okay I'll be back
[07:40] <MelisU> indus: invoke-rc.d: initscript bluetooth, action "stop" failed
[07:40] <vise> R0b0t1, I don't get a segfault, but i added an "else" to it.. so it does not execute if there is an error.. I don't think you should execute if there is an error
[07:40] <oldude67> y
[07:40] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I can't, rmmod is in use
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> anirban: the default config is pretty decent, but if users start doing silly things to their system then it will get less secure
[07:41] <mjs22> R0b0t1: It happily returns -1, and then finishes executing.  I put a print at the very end and it comes out just fine.
[07:41] <MelisU> indus: it is obviously broken .. but I don't care. I just want to remove it
[07:41] <cn28h> vise, what did errno say?
[07:41] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Scratch that. ERROR: Module btusb is in use
[07:41] <R0b0t1> Odd.
[07:41] <vise> cn28h, errno is -1.. how do i check what "-1" is?
[07:41] <indus> MelisU: restart your pc then try again,works sometimes
[07:41] <stefano> come si fa per non far vedere le icone sul desktop di kde?
[07:41] <Ace891> errno?  not cerr?
[07:41] <BABER> what command can write folder on cd ?
[07:41] <cn28h> vise, no, tha'ts the return value -- add perror("mprotect"); after it fails
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: lsof | grep btusb | less
[07:42] <MelisU> indus: it that already :)
[07:42] <losher> R0b0t1: mprotect fails and gives me EINVAL (addr  is  not  a  valid pointer, or not a multiple of the system page size
[07:42] <Ace891> BABER, depends upon what is installed
[07:42] <indus> MelisU: ok what package is it and how did you install it
[07:42] <losher> !it | stefano
[07:42] <R0b0t1> losher: That's what I figured.
[07:42] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I get nothing
[07:42] <BABER> Ace891: i want use command not gui
[07:42] <MelisU> MelisU: it is bluez and came preinstalled and then broke while upgrading
[07:43] <losher> R0b0t1: <smug> I said something about that 10 minutes ago </smug>
[07:43] <vise> cn28h, R0b0t1 Invalid argument
[07:43] <barqers> Does anyone know how to get gnome-do docky working in ubuntu 9.04? I installed gnome do but I cannot find preferences in order to load docky
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: from your error it appears that the btusb module is making it weird
[07:43] <indus> MelisU: you are talking to yourself ? :)
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: and it says its in use but isnt which is a concern
[07:43] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I don't even know what that module does. "Bluetooth USB"?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: try:   lsmod | grep usb
[07:43] <indus> MelisU: iam assuming u did all sudo apt-get update etc
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: you got it :D
[07:43] <MelisU> indus: yes .. tried it all.
[07:44] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: btsub 21784 2    and    usbhid   47040 0
[07:44] <losher> R0b0t1: man posix_memalign
[07:44] <jsq> here is the entry in /etc/group: admin:x:115:julian,laura
[07:44] <BABER> what command can write a file or a folder on cd ?
[07:44] <jsq> laura is the account i just added
[07:44] <R0b0t1> losher: Thank you :)
[07:44] <MelisU> indus: there has to be a way to just remove the files and the package from the package db ..  but how?
[07:45] <indus> MelisU: try --remove --force-remove
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: or lets try:  sudo rmmod usbhid; sudo rmmod; btusb; sleep 10; sudo modprobe usbhid
[07:45] <MelisU> indus: I did
[07:45] <indus> MelisU: try --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[07:45] <jsq> it must have to do something with the fact that i cannot log in to a tty at all
[07:45] <MelisU> ok
[07:45] <MelisU> indus: same error
[07:45] <jsq> julian@julian-desktop:~$ su laura
[07:45] <jsq> Password:
[07:45] <jsq> julian@julian-desktop:~$
[07:46] <jsq> cannot log in at all...
[07:46] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: First, I think you put an extra semicolon in that. Secondly, ERROR: Module btusb is in use
[07:46] <indus> MelisU:do a sudo apt-get clean
[07:46] <indus> MelisU:do a sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:46] <indus> both
[07:46] <MelisU> indus: already did
[07:46] <indus> damn !
[07:46] <MelisU> yes
[07:47] <lucax> hello, how can i make gnome remember windows positions?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: if your keyboard or mouse stop working in all of this, just reboot
[07:47] <indus> MelisU: /var/cache/apt/archives (( very risky) dont blame me later
[07:47] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: sudo rmmod usbhid makes my keyboard stop but sudo modprobe usbhid gets it back
[07:47] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I had to copy and paste the modprobe to get my keyboard back
[07:48] <jsq> well, i am going to reboot into recovery mode and try to reinstall the packages i just removed, maybe that will help
[07:48] <Amid> Hello, I need some help with my Mobile Broadband, I am using Ubuntu 9.04.
[07:48] <jsq> i wish aptitude had a history
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: thats because they are attatched to the usb bus
[07:48] <EnragedOstrich> Bah, I hate being new to Ubuntu
[07:48] <Flannel> jsq: /var/log/aptitude
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: i was hoping taking the usb module out would somehow free the btusb
[07:49] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Maybe it does but I can't rmmod it
[07:49] <jsq> yes... but i have to enter them all manually
[07:49] <moymoy> Cybertinus: how's your Eee PC?
[07:49] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I don't actually use Bluetooth. But remember I'm writing the n00b instructions so I want to make the instructions general
[07:49] <Flannel> jsq: Just collect all the packages, and sudo aptitude install [list of packages]
[07:49] <jsq> thanks... crosses fingers
[07:50] <MelisU> indus: and?
[07:50] <indus> MelisU: delete
[07:50] <indus> MelisU: your package
[07:50] <slap_stick> hey i'm unable to connect to keyserver.ubuntu.com is this a known issue?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: there may be a bug with mac and ubuntu with hibernate stuff. I dont personally use it as its a massive PITA to get nice
[07:50] <EnragedOstrich> I am thinking of reformating into Ubuntu Hardy 8.04
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !mac | richardcavell
[07:50] <MelisU> indus: that is just the downloaded package .. apt-get clean already deletes those
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: may have some clues
[07:51] <indus> MelisU: but i recommend not touching it
[07:51] <EnragedOstrich> Anyone think that is a good idea?
[07:51] <indus> MelisU: ok
[07:51] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: So what would you recommend I do?
[07:51] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: what are you using your computer for?
[07:51] <indus> MelisU: hmm so right now bluez wont remove
[07:51] <indus> MelisU: are you using any custom PPA's
[07:51] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the ideas.  I can't think of anything
[07:51] <EnragedOstrich> Writing/surfing/Emulation/Streaming TV
[07:52] <indus> MelisU: have you tried reinstalling the package
[07:52] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: then why would you want to reformat into 8.04? can't you do that with 9.04?
[07:52] <indus> MelisU: mm i cant help further
[07:52] <slap_stick> anyone else have issues connecting to keyserver.ubuntu.com if i telnet to port 80 it never connects, however i can ping it fine
[07:52] <MelisU> indus: sure .. from repo and the downloaded package with dpkg .. it always wants to remove the old one and it fails
[07:52] <EnragedOstrich> ePSXe and VGA seem terrbile
[07:53] <indus> MelisU: file a bug i suggest
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: try asking about 5 hours later
[07:53] <EnragedOstrich> And I tried PCSX, can't stand it
[07:53] <staticRails> what is the commands to see the mounted drivers?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: mount
[07:53] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Huh?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: do yuo mean drives or drivers
[07:53] <indus> staticRails: hi,
[07:53] <MelisU> indus: yeah, I guess that is the only option. thanks anyway :)
[07:53] <oldude67> MelisU, try editing the /etc/init.d/bluetooth find the line that says "pkill -TERM bluetooth" and change it to "pkill -TERM bluetooth || true and tell it to save and update and tell it yes when it asks
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: later in the day, different users in the channel
[07:54] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: you didn't have problems in 8.04?
[07:54] <staticRails> i knew a tow char command which gave more info
[07:54] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: what's your resolution anyway?
[07:54] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I'm putting it on the forums.
[07:54] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: i knew a tow char command which gave more info
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: good move, i'd ask in here later too :)
[07:54] <Ace891> Hey, does anyone know a terminal command for Ubuntu 8.04 similar to typing ipconfig /all in windows?
[07:54] <frk2> Ace891,  ifconfig ?
[07:54] <switch10__> Ace891: ifconfig
[07:55] <EnragedOstrich> moymoy: What do you mean resolution? As in screen size?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: do you mean drivers for hardware, or do you mean drives as in hard drive storage?
[07:55] <Ace891> lol, thanks
[07:55] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I seem to be the Mac expert round here
[07:55] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: yeah
[07:55] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu doesn't play well with Mac
[07:55] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: please give the command for drivers too.
[07:55] <lstarnes>  /ll staticRails
[07:55] <EnragedOstrich> moymoy: Prolly 1240x1024
[07:55] <lstarnes> oops.
[07:56] <moymoy> EnragedOstrich: and that isn't working with VGA?
[07:56] <lstarnes> staticRails: you usually don't mount drivers
[07:56] <michael__> Hi, does anyone know how ubuntu determines what it's current dist is? I had a do-release-upgrade die due to network disconnect, and now it thinks it is already upgraded. I would like to resume it.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: mount   will show you where partitions (you can't mount drives) are mounted.   sudo lshw | less   will show you all hardware and what driver it is used
[07:56] <losher> R0b0t1: well, I got it to run, but I"m not convinced it does the right thing, and it crashes in the subsequent free(), which is a bad sign....
[07:56] <indus> !mount
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: whch is why I asked you to clarify
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: why buy an overpriced mac to put ubuntu on it?
[07:57] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: I bought the overpriced mac to get the mac. I only started using Linux properly this year.
[07:57] <EnragedOstrich> moymoy: I am having complications with my gamepad - and I know it works on Ubuntu Hardy
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: fair point
[07:57] <kbp> I haven an ext3 partition but I forgot so I mount it with "-t ext2", then I copied files to it. Is there a problem? I deleted the original files already.
[07:57] <phishie> ubuntu makes any laptop look good, you dont have to get a mac
[07:57] <richardcavell> It's only recently that I've found Linux to be truly accessible
[07:57] <R0b0t1> losher: Could I see what you have?
[07:57] <indus> !off-topic
[07:58] <R0b0t1> losher: Using posix_memalign, valloc, and memalign all fail for me.
[07:58] <richardcavell> kbp shouldn't be. What problem are you expecting?
[07:58] <staticRails> can we use the list of mounted ntfs drviers which we have in gmd in the terminal too
[07:58] <EnragedOstrich> moymoy: Did you get that?
[07:58] <MelisU> oldude67: that worked!! Coolio! Thanks so much. I updated and then removed. I hope it died a painful death!
[07:58] <richardcavell> kbp: you've just lost journaling. No biggie.
[07:58] <staticRails> or should we mount them in terminal again.
[07:58] <staticRails> ?
[07:58] <oldude67> MelisU, glad to hear it..lol
[07:58] <lstarnes> staticRails: they're called drives.  drivers are pieces of software that are used for accessing hardware
[07:59] <losher> R0b0t1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219566/ under ubuntu 8.10
[07:59] <staticRails> lstarnes: was a typo
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: its a DRIVE, you never mount a drive, you can mount the partition/s  on the drive
[07:59] <losher> R0b0t1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219566/ under ubuntu 8.04 <------------ not 8.10
[07:59] <kbp> richardcavell: I just worry next time when I mount it with the right -t ext3 one, the journal gonna mix up and somehow will overwrite the data I just copy today.... Im not sure tho... just try to make sure there will be nothing happen
[07:59] <MelisU> oldude67, indus: have a great day and thanks again. I'm outta here. Bye
[08:00] <R0b0t1> losher: I see. Happily, that runs for me, this is getting me somewhere.
[08:00] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: thx... and the answer to my question ?
[08:00] <indus> MelisU: bye
[08:00] <oldude67> MelisU, laters
[08:00] <indus> :)
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: if they are not mounted how you like then you can remount them using terminal
[08:00] <indus> mount <devicename> <location>
[08:00] <losher> R0b0t1: well, like I say, I'm not convinced the array code executes, since you can't step into it with gdb (though I bet you can with adb)....
[08:00] <jsq> okay.. that didn't help, and now i have a white screen? i still have the menu, but i can't see the button
[08:01] <Kartagis> hey all. in System > Preferences > Sound, Sounds tab, I changed the system startup sound, but it still defaults. any ideas?
[08:01] <jsq> f weird
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: you will need to use:   sudo umount /mount/point   to unmount the partition first
[08:01] <R0b0t1> losher: As for the crashing, a mprotect(func, 5, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE); fixes that, why do you believe it is not executed?
[08:01] <R0b0t1> losher: I believe it does, I put in some random number into the f array and it segfaults.
[08:02] <richardcavell> kbp: I just double-checked. It's perfectly okay.
[08:02] <losher> R0b0t1: ah, good one, that was the final thing I needed, some actual proof that the array is getting executing....
[08:02] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: we can see a list of partitions in places/computer window. are these mounted and have they any mounted name which we can use in terminal or we should mount them in termianl ...
[08:02] <WhoNeedszzz> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks for trying
[08:02] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7624374#post7624374
[08:03] <jsq> here is my desktop now.. not an improvement! http://yfrog.com/9escreenshotqp
[08:03] <kbp> richardcavell: ok thank you :)
[08:03] <R0b0t1> losher: Well, thank you for your help. Magic touch or something because what you were doing looks almost identical to my code, with less error checking (GCC must see if you're using proper error checking and crash you if you aren't)
[08:03] <R0b0t1> you had more error checking, wonder why this helps :P
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: i use terminal persoanlly
[08:04] <losher> R0b0t1: dunno, but it's good defensive programming anyway....
[08:04] <cdrew> hello
[08:04] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: maybe my question is not clear....
[08:04] <cdrew> can someone help me install a diffrent GUI?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: gui for what?
[08:05] <cdrew> ubuntu
[08:05] <Dayofswords> question, has linux commands and use changed dramatically in the last 10 years, as i got a book on linux ($1 from  charity, focuses on redhat linux 6.0) from 1999, is it still relavent enough to learn something from?
[08:05] <vise> cdrew, Thats a pain
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: do you mean a different desktop environment
[08:05] <cdrew> i have a machine that doesnt have alot of ram
[08:05] <vise> Dayofswords, Surely
[08:05] <cdrew> i guese
[08:05] <vise> cdrew, So you want to go to XFCE?
[08:05] <Dayofswords> sweet, thank you
[08:05] <cdrew> i call them GUIs
[08:05] <cdrew> yes
[08:05] <losher> R0b0t1: wasn't your initial test wrong? !mprotect is 0 when mprotect returns 1. So you thought it was successful when it was failing...
[08:05] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: I want to use some nfts partion in terminal. they are accessible without mounting in gdm. are they accessible in termianl (without mounting) too?
[08:05] <cdrew> but i'm running it on a PS3
[08:05] <FreshPies> can't he just aptitude install fluxbox, and change the session in gdm
[08:05] <Flannel> Dayofswords: There's a lot of differences between redhat and Ubuntu though.  There's some free ebooks you can find, that might be better for your purposes.
[08:06] <FreshPies> that'd be way easier than going xfce
[08:06] <lstarnes> Dayofswords: some of it is likely different, especially things related to package management (which varies between distributions) and for some other programs
[08:06] <R0b0t1> losher: Yes, yes, but it was still failing when I fixed that and put posix_memalign &c in place.
[08:06] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: do they have any default mounted name in terminal or should id mount them ?
[08:06] <Dayofswords> ok thanks
[08:06] <FreshPies> cdrew: would you ever use a window manager that didn't have icons and such?
[08:06] <cdrew> no
[08:06] <FreshPies> Why not?
[08:06] <losher> R0b0t1: dunno then. Best of luck with the rest...
[08:06] <progre55> hi people! I'm using gtk, and compiz, and using a theme that shows menu panels (applications, places, system) transparent. But it's not working, I mean, not transparent at all. Any ideas how to do it?
[08:06] <cdrew> i'm a linux noob
[08:06] <FreshPies> It has a menu
[08:07] <FreshPies> i used it when i was a noob too
[08:07] <R0b0t1> losher: Yeah, this was my main problem :D. Thanks again.
[08:07] <cdrew> i still want icons
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> staticRails: sudo mkdir /media/ntfs_partition; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<partition name here> /media/ntfs_partition -o uid=1000
[08:07] <daycreature> Hey when you report a bug and it gets classified as such:
[08:07] <daycreature> Changed in ubuntu-bots:
[08:07] <daycreature> status: 	New → Invalid
[08:07] <FreshPies> you can get the icons, but it's an extra package to install. eventually you'll realize that icons are pretty useless.
[08:07] <EnragedOstrich> How do I use Wine to install ePSXe?
[08:07] <FreshPies> think about it
[08:07] <daycreature> Does this mean that your bug has been thrown out and will not be looked at?
[08:07] <FreshPies> you can have this installed in like 5 minutes :D
[08:07] <cdrew> k
[08:08] <losher> FreshPies: eventually you realise the same is true for most guis too....
[08:08] <lstarnes> daycreature: it probably means that it's either not a bug or that the report itself is invalid
[08:08] <staticRails> ActionParsnip: thx
[08:08] <FreshPies> as easy as "aptitude install fluxbox" and change the session ing dm
[08:08] <daycreature> Someone please let me know, because I legitimately have the bug in question, and it's certainly something worth addressing.
[08:08] <FreshPies> I can't highlight you because I messed up my terminal colors, but
[08:08] <FreshPies> anyway, yeah
[08:08] <FreshPies> I use GUI
[08:08] <Kartagis> hey all. in System > Preferences > Sound, Sounds tab, I changed the system startup sound, but it still defaults. any ideas?
[08:08] <zhurai> er, highlight = saying their nick
[08:08] <zhurai> that's all.
[08:08] <FreshPies> I just don't see the need for the window manager to have icons that are clicakable on the root window/taskbar/dock
[08:08] <daycreature> Lstarnes should I resubmit the bug in the correct format, is there a chance it would be accepted as a bug and addresed?
[08:08] <FreshPies> it's a luxury, at best
[08:08] <daycreature> addressed*
[08:09] <lstarnes> daycreature: what was the bug?
[08:09] <Ace891> Just out of curiousity, what IRC client do you all use?  I don't really like XChat
[08:09] <FreshPies> irssi
[08:09]  * Kartagis uses xchat
[08:09] <FreshPies> No need for buttons on irc :D (go figure right!)
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: you can install xfce, kde  eailt using kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop  there is also lxde, fluxbox to name but a few
[08:09] <switch10__> Ace891: pidgin
[08:09] <cdrew> so with fluxbox can i get to everything w./o terminal work?
[08:09] <losher> Ace891: chatzilla, because I'm lazy...
[08:09] <lstarnes> Ace891: I usually use irssi, but if you need something graphical, conspire might be better than xchat
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: they are all in the repos, just install them, log off then select the new DE and log back in
[08:09] <Kartagis> Ace891, weechat has nicklist support
[08:09] <FreshPies> cdrew: yes, all the program does is draw taskbars on the windows and lets you minimize, maximize, shade, move workspaces and such
[08:10] <FreshPies> it basically is the same window management functionality of gnome, without the toolbar and big menu, and desktop tools like file managers. but he'res what's great
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: you can run allyour favourite gnome apps in lxde (for example)
[08:10] <FreshPies> you run fluxbox or whatever
[08:10] <FreshPies> then use your gnome apps
[08:10] <Ace891> ok, thanks for the responses guys, I'll look into those
[08:10] <FreshPies> no xfce install requried
[08:10] <FreshPies> like ActionParsnip said
[08:10] <FloodBot3> FreshPies: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <cdrew> all i have is DOSBOX and VLC
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: i use lxde personally
[08:10] <tweaker25> is there someone with a dell inspiron 1501 on hardy by any chance ????
[08:10] <FreshPies> sorry ubottu
[08:11] <FreshPies> I've used every window manager under the sun, I'd be using Gnome if I had more ram too
[08:11] <FreshPies> when I get my sick new computer, i'll have gnome with compiz and such
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: http://lxde.org/screenshots/desktop.png
[08:11] <CaptainMorgan> firefox
[08:11] <CaptainMorgan> !firefox
[08:11] <cdrew> page not found
[08:11] <Bob_Dole> I build computers for 130 USD that run Gnome fine.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: ewwww compiz :P
[08:11] <losher> tweaker25: so many of them they have their own web page it seems http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/04/overview-of-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-on.html
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: http://elendill.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/pud-lxde-2.jpg
[08:11] <FreshPies> it's buggy yeah, and bloated yes
[08:11] <GhostWolf> ok forgot who was helping me before but can you pelase pm me it was just GhostWolf_ before
[08:11] <FreshPies> but when you've got 8gb of ram
[08:11] <FreshPies> compiz is like a tiny bug.
[08:12] <Kartagis> !firefox-3.5
[08:12] <FreshPies> also, i'll have a sick nvidia or ati card
[08:12] <cdrew> ooo, i like that GUI
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: yeah but it breaks stuff
[08:12] <tweaker25> lxde is nice but need a little more fonctions little screen resizing and the terminal should accept pasting ... and my old gnome menu isn't complete on him ...
[08:12] <Flannel> FreshPies: again, please stop using the enter key as punctuation.
[08:12] <staticRails> where is the cache of installed packages located?
[08:12] <tweaker25> but it's nice, easy and fast ...
[08:12] <staticRails> where is the cache of downloaded packages located?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: light and slick, moonos is a distro based on ubuntu with lxde as its default DE
[08:12] <FreshPies> I believe its in /var/apt/cache
[08:12] <FreshPies> amirite?
[08:12] <Flannel> staticRails: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:12] <FreshPies> i don't even use buntu.
[08:12] <cdrew> can LXDE be installed with a powerPC chip?
[08:12] <tweaker25> yes by compiling
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: if its in your repos, sure
[08:12] <zlirp1> Do we know yet what version of PHP will ship with karmic?
[08:12] <staticRails> Flannel: thx
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: apt-cache search lxde
[08:13] <Bob_Dole> Also: I didn't have 8.04 downloaded, so I'm downloading 8.04.2, it's 82% done.. hopefully I can find some restricted drivers for it because the free ones in 8.10 suck
[08:13] <lstarnes> staticRails: /var/apt/cache
[08:13] <losher> ActionParsnip: because the world needs another linux distro...
[08:13] <CaptainMorgan> what are folks using for the latest version of firefox? I would like to upgrade to 3.5, but it's not in the packages -- unless mine are loading incorrectly? does anybody have 3.5 in their package manager?
[08:13] <daycreature> lstarnes: The bug is thus, I connect by wifi with a 90% signal and a completely constant connection over fiber, but there is a consistent interruption in wifi access whenever I attempt to download torrents, regardless of client (I have tested with Deluge, transmission, and azeureus), after a short period of time of it downloading the data the wifi connection is lost and if I attempt to reconnect, it just hangs trying to conn
[08:13] <daycreature> ect, and the only remedy is a physical restart of the operating system. After which, assuming I do not attempt to download the torrent again, will be connected at the home screen before I've even seen the desktop, and will be completely stable and quick until I resume the halted torrent download, after which the connection will break again. Requiring a physical restart ad infinitum. It has not once worked since I Installed u
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | zlirp1
[08:13] <daycreature> buntu four days ago.
[08:13] <FloodBot3> daycreature: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:13] <lstarnes> staticRails: oops. /var/cache/apt
[08:13] <Flannel> zlirp1: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, thanks.
[08:13] <Kartagis> !karmic
[08:13] <cdrew> i'm not on ubuntu right now
[08:13] <daycreature> I hope that message went through and wasn't hidden by floodbot
[08:13] <tweaker25> ActionParsnip there is no lxde repositories for ppc sorry
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: well now you know the command :)
[08:13] <daycreature> did you get that post lstarnes?
[08:13] <lstarnes> daycreature: does that only happen when using torrents?
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> tweaker25: bah
[08:13] <FreshPies> ActionParsnip: fluxbox is calling your name
[08:13] <Flannel> !ff35 | CaptainMorgan
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: tried it, loved it
[08:14] <tweaker25> someone is good for ati graphics on hardy ?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: its based on the same base as fluxbox
[08:14] <FreshPies> ActionParsnip: http://www.fluxbox.org/screenshots/screenshots_full/screenshot_zan.png
[08:14] <tweaker25> Firefox damn people don't know flock here ?
[08:14] <FreshPies> you can do cool stuff like combine windows into each other and switch tabs within them to other windows
[08:14] <lstarnes> staticRails: you could also try /var/lib/dpkg
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: try flwm ;)
[08:14] <Flannel> FreshPies: mind taking the fluxbox chatter elsewhere?  #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place.
[08:14] <Kartagis> hey all. in System > Preferences > Sound, Sounds tab, I changed the system startup sound, but it still defaults. any ideas?
[08:15] <tweaker25> Flannel fluxbox is in the repos so it's ubuntu business also
[08:15] <richardcavell> Why is ubottu saying "Karmic WILL break". What does that mean?
[08:15] <Bob_Dole> I never did find a JWM package for ubuntu
[08:15] <daycreature> I haven't sufficiently tested it but I think that it may also occur in ftp downloads/uploads, but it NEVER occurs in http downloads from files to streaming content like full length movies and such, it won't break and it will be quick, at 15mbps or so down. The only time of signal interruption that i have tested is torrent downloads though.
[08:15] <daycreature> lstarnes
[08:15] <Flannel> tweaker25: This is a support channel, not a chat channel, even if its about Ubuntu.
[08:15] <lstarnes> richardcavell: it's not officially released now
[08:15] <cdrew> ok cool, i'll tell my linux tech about it
[08:15] <lstarnes> *yet
[08:15] <tweaker25> he just help peoples by saying alternatives you know ...
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> tweaker25: its not support chat though, its nattering
[08:15] <Bob_Dole> richardcavell, Karmic,. the next version of Ubuntu, is in alpha, aka, it's early so there's a crap load of bugs that will make stuff screw up
[08:15] <lstarnes> richardcavell: because of that, sometimes packages might get updated and break things
[08:15] <lstarnes> daycreature: which ISP do you have?
[08:16] <zlirp2> ugh
[08:16] <daycreature> Verizon FIOS
[08:16] <tweaker25> so someone can help me with my bugged ati settings ???
[08:16] <zlirp2> Sorry, I have to ask again, I got disconnected.
[08:16] <daycreature> It's a fiber optic line directly to the home
[08:16] <zlirp2> Do we know what version PHP will be at in Karmic?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: if you can fix your own bugs and dont mind logging bugs for the new version then go for it
[08:16] <losher> daycreature: just an observation: torrents stress networking like few other programs do....
[08:16] <Flannel> zlirp1: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, thanks.
[08:16] <daycreature> 25 down and 15 up is the speed I have
[08:16] <cdrew> o ya, another question
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> zlirp2: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:16] <richardcavell> I'm not sure I understand how you could end up with bugs in a distro. Most of the packages are mature and well-maintained. How can you break it by updating to the newest versions?
[08:16] <zlirp2> thanks
[08:16] <cdrew> is there a way to get my wireless modem to work with linux?
[08:16] <richardcavell> I mean, updating FF3.0 to FF3.5 doesn't result in a slew of errors.
[08:17] <Flannel> richardcavell: Karmic is the development version, it's not the stable version.  People are uploading new/untested/unstable versions, etc.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: they are being pieced together in a new OS, bits they havent got to will be missing and can produce weird behaviour
[08:17] <daycreature> Well even so losher, one would expect that with a 90% signal and with having had fine access on the hardwired computer to torrent downloads (no issues), I see no reason that this stress could not be handled by any decent router.
[08:17] <CaptainMorgan> !lts
[08:17] <richardcavell> Updating Calculator to the newest version doesn't break my machine
[08:17] <zhurai> <richardcavell> I mean, updating FF3.0 to FF3.5 doesn't result in a slew of errors. <-- cause you can easily install both at the same time: sudo apt-get install firefox3.5
[08:17] <cdrew> my modem is retarted
[08:17] <anthony> hello
[08:17] <cdrew> i'm not kidding
[08:17] <losher> richardcavell: the idiots keep writing new stuff, sometimes from scratch: ext4, brasero, sound....
[08:17] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0= someone can help ?
[08:17] <Flannel> richardcavell: Upgrading a system library that's broken can break things though.
[08:18] <cdrew> it only hooks up to windows computers
[08:18] <daycreature> Also as a point of note
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cdrew: so are my vms :(