[00:00] <sebsebseb> froglet2: ok before burning the contents of the ISO to CD it's a good idea to md5sum it
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  froglet2
[00:00] <Gnea> Hasanibrahim: it's not about what you think, it's how others perceive it
[00:00] <marcus> Thanks.
[00:00] <trism> Blue1: I wouldn't worry about it, this latest one is patched in 2.6.32, so it will be fixed eventually
[00:00] <Ollonk> Hello all.
[00:00] <froglet2> DexterF, my netbook which does not use nvidia and the upgrade worked
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !who |  marcus
[00:00] <Gnea> Brova: working fine here
[00:00] <Ollonk> I am trying to fix my touch pad in Karmic
[00:00] <froglet2> I did an md5sum
[00:00] <froglet2> that was not the problem
[00:00] <DexterF> froglet2: ...? pardon?
[00:00] <marcus> furuno:Thanks!
[00:00] <lordganesh> what is gpg error
[00:00] <mistahjc> can anyone help me install flash player
[00:00] <Hasanibrahim> Gnea: i can't think what 1618 ppl  think when i ask my question.
[00:00] <froglet2> DexterF, I was replying to sebsebseb
[00:00] <Gnea> mistahjc: ok, please pastebin the output of this command:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep flash
[00:01] <furuno> mistahjc : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:01] <IdleOne> Hasanibrahim: what is your question?
[00:01] <Hasanibrahim> i love ubuntu, but sometimes hate  because of these simple problems
[00:01] <Gnea> Hasanibrahim: that's why you wait. if no one answers, you wait and ask again.. usually 5-10 mins
[00:01] <spaceBARbarian> I am trying to format a partition to HFS+ but it is greyed out in gparted, anyone know why that could be ?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !who |  froglet2
[00:01] <Hasanibrahim> IdleOne: i can't open CD
[00:01] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: what are "these" "simple" problems?
[00:01] <Brova> Hasanibrahim: would you rather use windows ;)
[00:01] <Hasanibrahim> Brova: no
[00:01] <Brova> lol
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !love > Hasanibrahim
[00:01] <lordganesh> !gpg ->lordganesh
[00:02] <froglet2> the other lesson I learned today is to not use CD's I find in magazines :)
[00:02] <Hasanibrahim> if i , why do you think i wait here ?
[00:02] <mistahjc> Gnea: ok then what do i do after that
[00:02] <IdleOne> Hasanibrahim: open terminal and type eject
[00:02] <froglet2> get official sio's
[00:02] <lordganesh> !update  ->lordganesh
[00:02] <PlasmaSheep> My Dell laptop won't come out of hibernation.
[00:02] <mistahjc> plasma take out the battery then put it back in
[00:02] <Spoom2> hi folks, i'm installing ubuntu onto a friend's laptop, and the only options i have for gparted during the installation are "use / erase entire disk" and manual; what i'm wondering is if i change the size of a partition in the manual editor, will the files on the partition still be there or will it erase its contents?  i realize there is risk involved (hence why i'm waiting for a backup)
[00:02] <Brova> Gnea: anyway to remove all flash players and plugins and try and install it all again ?
[00:02] <lordganesh> what is gpg error
[00:02] <Hasanibrahim> IdleOne: i ejected and re-entered cd millions of times
[00:02] <spaceBARbarian> I am trying to format a partition to HFS+ but it is greyed out in gparted, anyone know why that could be ?
[00:02] <usertwo> i want to send a file of size 148 MB from one ubuntu computer to another ubuntu computer over the internet. what is the best way of doing this?
[00:03] <furuno> Spoom2 : It will still be there if you only resize (not format)
[00:03] <froglet2> gpg is a binary in the gnupg package
[00:03] <mistahjc> gnea: what do i do next
[00:03] <jorgp> is there no boot loader that will just load iso files? I can not seem to find one, grub4dos does not support cd emulation
[00:03] <Kuriouz> mistahjc: are you sure your packages up to date?  What package managers are you using? just apt-get?
[00:03] <furuno> usertwo : email :)
[00:03] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: What is your simple problem then?
[00:03] <jrib> Spoom2: should still be there but you should have backups as you know
[00:03] <IdleOne> Hasanibrahim: from your statement I understood you could not get the cd rom to open. perhaps give more precise info on what you are trying to do
[00:03] <Spoom2> furuno, jrib, absolutely, thanks
[00:03] <mistahjc> Gnea: i mean Gnea what do i do next
[00:03] <usertwo> furuno: email limit is 25 MB
[00:03] <zhasha> So is anyone providing a working USB image for UNR 9.10?
[00:03] <Flannel> usertwo: Install openssh-server on one of the computers, then use sftp
[00:03] <erUSUL> usertwo: using scp ?
[00:03] <furuno> usertwo : split the files ?
[00:03] <lordganesh> what is gpg error
[00:03] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: could you describe what happens when you turn on your computer
[00:04] <erUSUL> !ssh | usertwo
[00:04] <Mka> usertwo: is it compressible?
[00:04] <Gnea> mistahjc: you need to pastebin it
[00:04] <Gnea> !pastebin | mistahjc
[00:04] <derdui> !de
[00:04] <furuno> lordganesh : usually if you don't have the "key" for a repository (unofficial repo)
[00:04] <froglet2> lordganesh, are you trying to encrypt or decrypt something?
[00:04] <Hasanibrahim> Mka: ihave a windows cd, ubuntu was opening it before but at this time, it's looking like a blank CD
[00:04] <CapeFear> hi
[00:04] <usertwo> MKa: that is the compressed size, as tar.gz
[00:04] <furuno> loardganesh : in apt-get it is
[00:04] <duckie> my user account is hanging on login
[00:04] <Gnea> Brova: the only thing i can think of is that maybe you tried to install flash plugin directly from the adobe website
[00:04] <duckie> how do i fix it
[00:04] <wrgb> usertwo: use Ubuntu One, you can install it in 9.04 or it comes with 9.10
[00:04] <zhasha> What massive idiot decided to distribute an operating system for PCs without CD drives, on a CD?
[00:05] <Mka> usertwo: use scp
 PlasmaSheep: could you describe what happens when you turn on your computer
[00:05] <sebsebseb> zhasha: hmm????
[00:05] <lordganesh> furuno: i get this error when i try to update
[00:05] <Gnea> zhasha: it can be done via usb
[00:05] <PlasmaSheep> It turns on, goes to the login prompt after all the loading screens, ffffffffff
[00:05] <Mka> usertwo: the destination computer should run SSH server
[00:05] <duckie> anyone able to help?
[00:05] <Gnea> !usb | zhasha
[00:05] <froglet2> zhasha, you can use an external drive or a thumb drive
[00:05] <zhasha> I'm trying my best to get UNR 9.10 running from a USB key, but alas I've tried everything
[00:05] <Brova> Gnea: i did try that, is that problematic? after that didnt work i tried to install via terminal command line
[00:05] <CapeFear> if you want to do some programming, is there a significant difference between doing this in a Linux or UNIX-based system, and in Windows?
[00:05] <usertwo> erUSUL: thanks..checking out ssh now
[00:05] <Ollonk> as I was saying
[00:05] <Ollonk> I want to fix my touch pad
[00:05] <furuno> lordganesh, it usually happen if you have additional repositories
[00:06] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: this is not a simple problem
[00:06] <MoTec> zhasha: easy enough if you
[00:06] <Ollonk> My update to karmic broke it
[00:06] <duckie> no?
[00:06] <duckie> :(
[00:06] <zhasha> I even put it on a CD, booted it, and tried to install it from there on a USB key... nope.. just a bunch of hangs and crashes
[00:06] <Gnea> Brova: yes, because the files aren't the same. if there are any left on the system, they need to be removed.
[00:06] <sebsebseb> duckie: Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:06] <Kuriouz> zhasha: you'll probably need to format you usb key .. i had a bunch of problems with this
[00:06] <froglet2> but I felt like a massive idiot when I bought one and did not think of that
[00:06] <furuno> lordganesh, if you have trusted additional repository (e.g. opera) thet just say yes and it's gonna be okay
[00:06] <duckie> 9.10
[00:06] <Hasanibrahim> IdleOne: i open my Cdrom, put Win CD into it than close. Than waitin to open but it can't. it's opening as blank cd (and ubuntu recomend to burn it)
[00:06] <sebsebseb> duckie: ok so GDM 2
[00:06] <MoTec> zhasha: easy enough if you've got a windows machine and can download and open the .iso file.. there is an .exe in there to write the image to the usb drive
[00:06] <duckie> sebsebseb: lemme check
[00:06] <sebsebseb> duckie: Do you even see that? the log in screen
[00:06] <sebsebseb> duckie: yes it's GDM 2 in 9.10
[00:06] <zhasha> MoTec: I don't have a windows machine
[00:06] <Flannel> zhasha: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/  That'll make a bootable USB key
[00:06] <Hasanibrahim> Mka: i thought
[00:06] <r00to3> zhasha, did you format it fat32 or ntfs?
[00:06] <furuno> zhasha, use a ISO burner (like Nero / Brasero / or even WIn 7 default (choose burn image)
[00:06] <Flannel> zhasha: Among other methods
[00:06] <sebsebseb> duckie: Gnome Display Manager the log in screen
[00:07] <lordganesh> furuno: how to get rid of it  my error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/310034/
[00:07] <zhasha> r00to3: ext2
[00:07] <Brova> Gnea: how can i do that? apt-get remove flash player ?
[00:07] <duckie> sebsebseb: yes, it only hangs after I put in my password
[00:07] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: I know about htis
[00:07] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: so it freezes when hibernating, but you can reboot and then access the system?
[00:07] <duckie> sebsebseb: strange thing is the failsafe gnome login works
[00:07] <r00to3> oh
[00:07] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: I guess it's a hardware problem
[00:07] <perscitus> Where is Docky in karmic?
[00:07] <furuno> lordganesh, either remove the repository or get the gpg key for the repositories
[00:07] <duckie> sebsebseb: the other user account can login no problem
[00:07] <sebsebseb> duckie: personally I don't like GDM 2, because it can't be themed like the old one.    The Ubuntu provided utilities crash and hang left and right
[00:07] <duckie> sebsebseb: AND... revcovery mode is leaving graphic artifacts on the selection menu
[00:08] <sebsebseb> duckie: What do you mean>
[00:08] <sebsebseb> ?
[00:08] <Ollonk> My recovery menu is also broken
[00:08] <Gnea> Brova: well, did you download a .deb file from adobe's site?
[00:08] <zhasha> UNetBootin doesn't generate a valid boot image
[00:08] <IdleOne> Hasanibrahim: maybe trying to ask in your native language would be easier. what is your native tongue?
[00:08] <Gnea> Brova: or was it a .tar.gz or a .run file?
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Ollonk: 9.10 yes?
[00:08] <furuno> zhasha, try k3b  instead of brasero ?
[00:08] <Ollonk> yes
[00:08] <Spoom2> hrmm, rsync is taking ages to backup the windows directory of this lappy over a 100mbps connection... i wonder if the compression is the bottleneck here
[00:08] <Brova> Gnea: yes
[00:08] <Hasanibrahim> IdleOne: i tried of course :p
[00:08] <Hasanibrahim> Turkish
[00:08] <Brova> Gnea: it wouldnt execute though
[00:08] <zhasha> furuno: I don't have a CD drive in my NETBOOK
[00:08] <sebsebseb> ok for btoh of you duckie and Ollonk   9.10 clean install or upgrade from 9.04?
[00:08] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: I know about this but I cannot explain it. the interesting thing is that even Windows of the same machine gets confused of such a CD/DVD
[00:08] <Hasanibrahim> but everybody are sleeping now :p
[00:08] <Gnea> Brova: what? the .deb?
[00:08] <duckie> sebsebseb: after booting into recovery mode and scrolling down the login menu it would display weird messages over the menu and stop responding
[00:08] <Ollonk> I used the upgrade from update manafer in 9.04
[00:09] <mistahjc> ok i did paste bin'
[00:09] <furuno> zhasha, try this site : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:09] <duckie> sebsebseb: install 9.10 beta and upgrade to final version
[00:09] <Brova> Gnea: yeah
[00:09] <perscitus> Where is Docky in karmic?
[00:09] <mistahjc> i did paste bin
[00:09] <Hasanibrahim> Mka: i am more confused than my machine
[00:09] <ccd> hi - i would like to inst gitso, apt-get doesnt work any ideas pls? Thanks
[00:09] <sebsebseb> Ollonk: many people have had problems after upgrading from 9.04,  also if you clean install you get  Ext4 by default and Grub 2
[00:09] <ricardoromao> hello, how can I enable a desktop user to shutdown the ubuntu 9.10 without a root password ?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> duckie:  you  can't be certain to get the proper final if you have been upgrading from a beta version
[00:09] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: I think that your CD/DVD drive is getting bad
[00:09] <Ollonk> I installed ext4 with 9.04
[00:10] <Ollonk> I hear bad things about grub 2
[00:10] <duckie> sebsebseb: clean install the best option?
[00:10] <perscitus> zhasha.->  Startup disk can put iso on flash drive
[00:10] <furuno> ricardoromao, I believe you won't need it if you shutdown your pc from the gnome-panel applet
[00:10] <mistahjc> Dnea: i did the paste bin
[00:10] <zhasha> Okay, giving up on the retarded recommendations
[00:10] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: its struggling to read some DVDs or CDs
[00:10] <furuno> 0llonk, GRUB2 is very slow detecting my OSs (at least for me)
[00:10] <ricardoromao> furuno, if I have two users logged in the system, the ubuntu ask me the root password to shutdown
[00:10] <Hasanibrahim> Mka: i think not, it was changed nearly..
[00:10] <Hasanibrahim> for about 3 moınths
[00:11] <Scotch> hi
[00:11] <sebsebseb> duckie: In your  case it would be a good idea to clean install,   but also  Ollonk  should clean install really  or just use 9.04.   Also  many people don't know that really they should md5sum check Ubuntu ISO's before burning their contents to CD
[00:11] <Ollonk> furuno: I only have linux on my machine anywayy
[00:11] <Scotch> There's this thing that's bugging me a lot
[00:11] <furuno> !hi | Scotch
[00:11] <duckie> sebsebseb: the weird thing is that the other user accounts appear to be fine AND this useraccount works fine under failsafe GNOME...  sounds like its something user specific somehow tied to GNOME... no clue here
[00:11] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  duckie   Ollonk
[00:11] <son_of_steel> hey
[00:11] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: But I still do think so. I have confidence on my observations
[00:11] <perscitus> Where is Docky in karmic?
[00:12] <Scotch> Every couple hours or so, my mouse just seems to "disable clicks"... I mean, I can move the mouse but can't make any inputs, there isn't even "hover" effects
[00:12] <son_of_steel> I want sex chat... who is up for it?
[00:12] <Ollonk> o.o
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !ops  | son_of_steel
[00:12] <Scotch> It happens only since I upgraded to Karmic
[00:12] <PlasmaSheep> ffffffffff: yes
[00:12] <furuno> perscitus, what Docky? the taskbar replacement that looks like the one in MacOSX?
[00:12] <Brova> lol @ son_of_steel
[00:12] <Ollonk> anyway, I wasn't concerned about my recovery menu. My touch pad was broken during the upgrade
[00:12] <furuno> son_of_steel, if you have a thing for USB port
[00:13] <Mka> Hasanibrahim: I run 6 operating systems on one computer and if one of them says a CD is blank, ALL of them will say the same
[00:13] <perscitus> furuno.->  it's called Docky
[00:13] <Ollonk> it tries to use the wrong drivers
[00:13] <furuno> :}
[00:13] <sebsebseb> Brova: they are gone now,  DBO sorted them out
[00:13] <furuno> perscitus, try awn? sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator awn-manager
[00:13] <lordganesh> furuno: oh i got it ..it is due to additional repositories for vlc.. thanks
[00:13] <blaster> guys i have problems with nvidia drivers.when i apply the driver and restart the x server, instead of i shiny screen i get 6 little screens of my desktop
[00:13] <blaster> how to fix that
[00:13] <perscitus> furuno.->  i said Docky, not AWN
[00:13] <Brova> sebsebseb: what ?
[00:14] <DBO> perscitus, its part of GNOME Do
[00:14] <furuno> perscitus, the one in Gnome-Do? then you need to install gnome-do
[00:14] <Ollonk> If I use the command "cat event7" in /dev/ I get garbage in the terminal from my touchpad, but other than that nothing
[00:14] <Ollonk> it worked in hardy and jaunty
[00:14] <Brova> Gnea: any ideas ? what else can i do ?
[00:14] <kaeser> Does this wireless card works with ubuntu and does it has completly foss drivers avaiable? TL-WN651G
[00:14] <sebsebseb> Brova: they got kicked  and banned,  but then the ban got removed
[00:14] <perscitus> DBO.->  How to turn it on?
[00:14] <furuno> perscitus, in your Gnome-Do preference
[00:14] <Brova> sebsebseb: ok
[00:15] <Mka> blaster: go to the single runlevel and choose xfix
[00:15] <perscitus> furuno.->  uh. where
[00:15] <furuno> perscitus, open Gnome-Do and type preference (if I recall)
[00:15] <duckie> sebsebseb: any way to rebuild a user account instead... is there like a usercheck or... not sure :-/
[00:15] <furuno> perscitus, and in the appearanace, choose docky
[00:15] <perscitus> oh i got it. it's the theme
[00:15] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: the freeze occurs when attempting to come out of hibernation?
[00:15] <Kudi> how do i go about installing sound after a minimal install of ubuntu 9.10...no more alsa?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> duckie: maybe you can copy /home into a working user account
[00:15] <blaster> Mka: if i do this the driver will be disabled and again i initial position
[00:15] <PlasmaSheep> ffffffffff: hibernation or standby, yes
[00:15] <sebsebseb> duckie: If that's the kind of thing you mean
[00:16] <DBO> perscitus, if you stop by #docky I can give you one on one help with it, I wrote it after all
[00:16] <sebsebseb> duckie: /home/user  yeah   user being a folder
[00:16] <furuno> DB0 : :)
[00:16] <perscitus> DBO.->  I didnt know it was under theme
[00:16] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: do you use wireless lan?
[00:16] <duckie> alright... I'll give that a shot
[00:16] <DBO> perscitus, yeah the text version is better about that...
[00:17] <Mka> blaster: is this driver version bug-free and has it been used successfully before on similar chipset?
[00:17] <linuxguy2009> Is there a way to mass remove a folder full of installed deb packages? Kinda like the opposite of "sudo dpkg -i *.deb but to remove them from the system?
[00:17] <perscitus> DBO.-> Can i open mounted partitions?
[00:17] <sebsebseb> duckie: having a seperate home partition is also useful
[00:17] <sebsebseb> !home |  duckie
[00:17] <furuno> linuxguy2009, rm *.deb
[00:17] <coldshadow> HI.
[00:17] <sebsebseb> duckie: for future re installs and even distro hopping
[00:17] <duckie> sebsebseb: is terminal supposed to be able to be be run under failsafe gnome?
[00:17] <DBO> perscitus, in Docky 1 no, it doesn't know how to do that, Docky v2.0 can however
[00:17] <furuno> !hi | coldshadow
[00:17] <karmic_police> is there a program available for ubuntu for editting and splitting movies?
[00:18] <furuno> karmic_police, a lot :)
[00:18] <linuxguy2009> furuno: I dont think thats anywhere near the opposite of dpkg -i *.deb
[00:18] <sebsebseb> duckie: you could  cd into  your /home folder for example.   cd  /home/username  and do ls and list your files,  and  other things,  but I don't know the commands that well at the moment actsualley
[00:18] <Ollonk> can anyone help me?
[00:18] <karmic_police> i recorded a band and would like to split it up by songs
[00:18] <perscitus> DBO.->  Can i use gnome-do to open partition?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Ollonk:  I suggested a clean install
[00:18] <DBO> perscitus, yes, there is a plugin to do that
[00:18] <Brova> Gnea: i removed ALL traces of flash using synaptic. what can i type now ?
[00:18] <furuno> linuxguy2009, for uninstalling a program my fav is : sudo apt-get autoremove *program-name*
[00:18] <Kudi> how do i add my user to pulseaudio?
[00:18] <Ollonk> I don't want to go through all that again....
[00:19] <coldshadow> Um, maybe someone can help me, I'm wanting ti install Ubuntu onto the second drive of this system, and I have put the download onto my USB Drive, because at the moment I don't have any cds to burn to, can someone help me figure out how to get it to install?
[00:19] <karmic_police> furuno> what is a good prog to look into?
[00:19] <pARAd0X85> hi
[00:19] <pARAd0X85> I have got a very very strange problem
[00:19] <Guest71480> chroot keeps telling me things arent a directory
[00:19] <pARAd0X85> ubuntu 9.10
[00:19] <PlasmaSheep> pARAd0X85: talk to your doctor
[00:19] <KnifeySpooney> UGH. I was trying to delete some files in another directory through the terminal and I forgot I was still in my /home directory. I still have an (outdated) backup of my home directory, but the backup was for Jaunty not Karmic. Is there any way I can create a new user profile for Karmic using a Karmic livecd?n
[00:20] <furuno> karmic_police, I've never used one, but try Pitivi / Kino
[00:20] <pARAd0X85> I got my password modified
[00:20] <karmic_police> ty
[00:20] <raskolnik> First question: is there any way to get a DVD drive to report what kind of discs it can burn (specifically whether it can do dual layer or not)?  I'm hoping for something that can get it directly from the drive's firmware.
[00:20] <linuxguy2009> furuno: Reason I ask is that i am trying to put together a CD-R custom repository disk for offline installs. 9.10 wont work like I have done in previouse versions. I use synaptic download scripts to download the packages from a live cd session and then burn em in a seperate folder on the disk. 9.10 is throwing fits at all of the programs like this.  Anyway. I'm planning to 'upgrade' from 9.04 to 9.10 via fresh install. However, I'd like to see what 'custom' packages (above the default install) that I have installed so I can look through them and then install some of them on the fresh install. (via a new apt-get.) Best ideas for doing this?
[00:20] <pARAd0X85> ubuntu 9.10 don't accept my password neither the root password
[00:20] <Ollonk> How would I change the identification and drivers of an input device? (or just a device)
[00:21] <jjgalvez> trying to upgrade from intrepid to karmic, got the alt disk, burned it and now I get this error message: An upgrade from intrepid to karmic is not supported with this tool" any thoughts on how to do the upgrade?
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: sudo lshw | grep DVD   ..that will tell you all about the DVD player
[00:21] <pARAd0X85> how to fix this, this is very strange !!
[00:21] <Guest71480> why would chroot tell me things aren't a directory?
[00:21] <usertwo> thanks
[00:21] <kriel> pARAd0X85: you're probably going to have to do a password recovery, which is an advanced topic. A reinstall may be a better option. Alternately, try googling 'ubuntu password recovery'
[00:21] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, Boot w/ the liveCD, mount the installation under like /mount/ubuntu => chroot to that installation, then passwd for root and yerself.
[00:21] <JonathanEllis> jjgalvez: It may be safer to do a clean install on a separate partition. That way, if anything goes wrong you can go back
[00:21] <lstarnes> Guest71480: chroot only works on directories
[00:22] <kriel> pARAd0X85: or listen to YankDownUnder, who just explained how to do a password recovery.
[00:22] <linuxguy2009> Im unable to use APTonCD also cause synaptic is leaving out dependencies.
[00:22] <coldshadow> wow, alot going on at once.
[00:22] <pARAd0X85> YankDownUnder, kriel do you think this is normal ? a password that change by it self ??
[00:22] <Guest71480> of course!!
[00:22] <PlasmaSheep> ffffffffff: yes I do
[00:22] <jjgalvez> JonathanEllis: I was hopping not to have to do that, this is my work computer and I really didn't want to have to reinstall all the stuff I have on it
[00:22] <JonathanEllis> Which version of grub comes with Jaunty? Grub or grub2?
[00:22] <kriel> pARAd0X85: of course not, however it apparently happened. We explained how to fix it.
[00:23] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, Nothing is normal.
[00:23] <pARAd0X85> I am using Linux for many years and really I never got thing like that !
[00:23] <lstarnes> PlasmaSheep: try booting into recovery mode and using passwd username
[00:23] <furuno> JonathanEllis, Grub
[00:23] <Kuriouz> pARAd0X85: you might want to try trick 4: .. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-10sysadtips/
[00:23] <lstarnes> JonathanEllis: grub legacy, iirc
[00:23] <karmic_police> i have swicthed completely to linux for almost a month now
[00:23] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, Just consider it a great learning experience - now you can tell others how to do it yerself
[00:23] <Shadow_X> so how do I get Ubuntu to patch the audio coming in from the Mic input to the speakers in 9.10? it was working beautifully in 9.04 now its not
[00:23] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: if it were capable of dual layer burning, would that be listed specifically under capabilities?
[00:23] <PlasmaSheep> lstarnes: why would I do that
[00:23] <froglet2> pARAd0X85, I hav e been using Linux since 1997 and it is still full of surprises
[00:23] <tblake3> I upgraded via clean install to 9.10.  I used to be able to run dual screens on my laptop both at 1024x?? or so resolution.  Now I can run the screens at high resolution mirrored but or one at low and one at high res, unmirrored.  When I run both at high, both go black or worse.  How can I fix it?
[00:23] <lstarnes> PlasmaSheep: sorry, wrong user
[00:23] <mistahjc> um
[00:23] <MeXTuX> I want to reinstall Ubuntu and delete ext3 partitions to create them again but I can't make it with ubuntu Live CD. I want to delete partitions with Parted
[00:23] <lstarnes> pARAd0X85: try booting into recovery mode and using passwd username
[00:23] <PlasmaSheep> np :P
[00:23] <pARAd0X85> kriel, YankDownUnder how the root password can be changed without my OK ?
[00:24] <TRTwiggy> Can anyone tell me what version of GTK+ Ubuntu 9.10 is using?
[00:24] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: have you tried disabling the wlan connection before suspending?
[00:24] <mistahjc> i put my problem on pastedin
[00:24] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, Solar flares, mate. That, or cosmic radiation. Dunno.
[00:24] <lstarnes> TRTwiggy: 2.18.3-1
[00:24] <PlasmaSheep> ffffffffff: no
[00:24] <TRTwiggy> thank you very much
[00:24] <mistahjc> image bin i mean can anyone help me
[00:24] <pARAd0X85> kriel, YankDownUnder I am really speaking seriously !
[00:24] <froglet2> pARAd0X85, maybe you changed it unintentionally
[00:24] <MeXTuX> Parted shows me an error message about unmounting partitions first in order to delete 'em
[00:24] <PlasmaSheep> ffffffffff: I'll try that.  Hopefully it'll be fixed.
[00:25] <perscitus> DBO.->How do i remove icons from docky?
[00:25] <JonathanEllis> jjgalvez: I have had disasters when doing an upgrade so if you are going down that route, please backup first. Anyway, I think you may need the liveCD to upgrade instead of the alternative CD but I dont know for sure. Alternatively I think update manager may offer you the choice of a distribution upgrade without a CD. Can anyone else confirm or deny this?
[00:25] <ffffffffff> PlasmaSheep: I don't know much about it, I did see that occur in 9.04 and earlier
[00:25] <kriel> pARAd0X85: so are we. We don't know. It's called a glitch. It happens occasionally with computers. The only advice we can give you is how to fix it.
[00:25] <mistahjc> mextux are u talking to me
[00:25] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, Any OS - whether it be UNIX, Linux, MacOS, OS/2, MS-DOS, MS-WindowsX -> they're all fulla strange things.
[00:25] <`efeX> What do you use to mount .ISO in ubuntu
[00:25] <linuxguy2009> Can anyone verify that all packages shown as installed in a 9.10 live session should be installed by default in an actuall hard disk install? Synaptic keeps saying that some of my repository packages are missing a package that is shown to be installed already on the live session. Seems very odd to me. One of the packages is libreadline5.
[00:25] <YankDownUnder> `efeX, gtk-mount-iso
[00:25] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: sudo lshw -c disk ..is the proper syntax and yes it would have something like dl listed
[00:25] <ricardoromao> hello, is possible shutdown the ubuntu 9.10 without root password when are 2 or more users logged ?
[00:25] <`efeX> YankDownUnder: thanks
[00:25] <kriel> `efeX: from the cli, #mount -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /path/to/mount
[00:26] <karmic_police> how hard is it to set up a ubuntu network?
[00:26] <duckie> sebsebseb: my terminal wont launch
[00:26] <ihcus> hi !! can anyone please help me how to autoplay rythmbox on startup?
[00:26] <YankDownUnder> karmic_police, As hard as it is to breathe.
[00:26] <ihcus> without any manual effort
[00:26] <pARAd0X85> froglet2, I haven't used passwd
[00:26] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: okay thanks ... any reason lshw is not showing dual layer but Nero and K3B both do?
[00:26] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: I think you need the password. If you are in the admin group then it will be your own password
[00:26] <furuno> ihcus : go to System > Pref > Starup Application and choose ADD
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: also by getting the product# you can google that and see if so.. honestly i don't know if it shows that with lshw.
[00:27] <karmic_police> what about networking windoze pc's in the mix also?
[00:27] <`efeX> kriel: for path to mount would /dev/cdrom work?
[00:27] <kriel> [first and last repost] I'm planning to 'upgrade' from 9.04 to 9.10 via fresh install. However, I'd like to see what 'custom' packages (above the default install) that I have installed so I can look through them and then install some of them on the fresh install. (via a new apt-get.) any ideas for doing this or similar?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> duckie: clean instaling would be easier, then trying to fix things like that
[00:27] <furuno> ihcus, in the command field, type in rythmbox, and anything your like in other field
[00:27] <froglet2> pARAd0X85, maybe your system was compromised then, if you are certain you did not change it
[00:27] <jjgalvez> JonathanEllis: yep, I just finished backing up my home folder, just wondering if I have to upgrade to jaunty first and then to Karmic, thinking that might lead to real issues if I have to do it that way
[00:27] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, but the other user need to be just a desktop user, without admin privileges
[00:27] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: |System|Preferences|Startup Applications
[00:27] <kriel> `efeX: most likely not. I wouldn't reccomend it. I'd make a new empty folder to mount it to.
[00:27] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: yeah, I tried that ... forums seem to imply that it does, but Dell says it doesn't.  The manufacturer doesn't say anything (even though the computer's only about a year old)
[00:27] <ihcus> furuno ....thanks but how do i get rythmbox to play on startup?
[00:28] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, in 9.04 was the Administrator policies, but in the 9.10 don't have
[00:28] <perscitus> DBO.->How do i remove icons from docky?
[00:28] <Pricey> Anyone else having issues installing google gears updates?
[00:28] <pARAd0X85> froglet2, you mean what by "compromised" ?
[00:28] <lotec> what up ubuntu users
[00:28] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: The user who is issuing the shutdown command must have admin rights to kick other users off
[00:28] <Brova> is there any way i can archive all the man pages into a html, pdf, etc?
[00:28] <DBO> perscitus, drag them off
[00:28] <Brova> for quick reference
[00:28] <phyrrus> Nope
[00:28] <froglet2> pARAd0X85, ahem... hacked
[00:28] <phyrrus> or you could archive /usr/man
[00:28] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: if k3b said it would then i would take its word for it and try.
[00:28] <phyrrus> or /usr/doc
[00:28] <armence> Hello all, so, for some reason firefox stopped responding and is not even drawing inside the window anymore... I do have a ridiculous number of tabs open, but the system monitor registers very little CPU activity and only about 50% ram usage and the swap partition is not even in use... What's the problem?
[00:28] <YankDownUnder> pARAd0X85, There exists the possibility that your system has been compromised. Possibly by aliens.
[00:28] <raskolnik> Second question: what do I need to do to get avidemux to split a video file into pieces?  I've got a piece size set in the avi mux options, but it just creates one big file
[00:29] <lightpriest_> lol
[00:29] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the dns server port for clients in ubuntu (field does not allow colons)?
[00:29] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, I undertood this, but it's wrong, why I'll give a admin privilege to a desktop user ?
[00:29] <karmic_police> firefox stops responding all the time with me.. prolly flash related
[00:29] <Brova> phyrrus: thanks
[00:29] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: I have, and it burns a coaster every time (giving a write error) ... as does Nero
[00:29] <kriel> armence: it froze. #pkill firefox should fix this (though, rather ugly)
[00:29] <lightpriest_> armence, minimize the window and maximize it
[00:29] <phyrrus> its /usr/share/doc
[00:29] <sebsebseb> karmic_police: yep probably Flash related
[00:29] <froglet2> that is why I hang garlic near my computers, to keep away the aliens
[00:29] <phyrrus> but that would be extremely difficult
[00:29] <lightpriest_> armence, you played with compiz while firefox was open? :)
[00:29] <JonathanEllis> jjgalvez: No you shouldnt need to upgrade to jaunty first. Backup your root partition as well as your home in case of problems. That way you can restore your intrepid if you need to
[00:29] <Gnea> mistahjc: ?
[00:29] <lotec> froglet2 garlic does not keep aliens away
[00:29] <armence> lightpriest_, Nope
[00:29] <YankDownUnder> karmic_police, You COULD "rename" the ~./.mozilla dir then try again...just to check if - IF it's a Firefox issue...
[00:29] <sebsebseb> !ot
[00:30] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: Are you in the admin group? Is it you who wants to reboot?
[00:30] <armence> lightpriest_, And minimized->maximize did nothing
[00:30] <lightpriest_> armence, well, if you'd kill firefox and re-open it - it should restore your session
[00:30] <karmic_police> it hasn't done in a while.. mainly does it on youtube and yahoo home page with their silly popout flash
[00:30] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, yes, i'm in admin group, but the other user don't need to be
[00:30] <Brova> phyruss: what would make it so difficult ?
[00:30] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the dns server port for clients in ubuntu (field does not allow colons)?
[00:30] <perscitus> DBO.->  im going for minimalist look
[00:30] <furuno> ihcus, I've checked the manual but can't seem to find the option to autoplay rhythmbox at startup, maybe a script will work, but I'm not good with script :(
[00:31] <kiatto> Cyaoo a tutti!!
[00:31] <armence> lightpriest_,
[00:31] <armence> lightpriest_, OK, thanks
[00:31] <jjgalvez> JonathanEllis: thats a good idea, I think I'll just some mirroring software and make a mirror of the hd
[00:31] <DBO> perscitus, thats what I do too :)
[00:31] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: No, only the user who is shutting down (you) needs to be admin
[00:31] <lightpriest_> armence, you could "xkill" it
[00:31] <karmic_police> msconfig.. jk :P
[00:31] <froglet2> ricardoromao, you can use visudo and add an entry for the user you want to allow to shut the machne down
[00:31] <furuno> ihcus, but I believe that audacious can do this
[00:31] <JonathanEllis> jjgalvez: I copied all my partitions to a usb hard drive with gparted before installing / upgrading
[00:31] <lightpriest_> armence, ALT + F2, xkill, and click on firefox :D
[00:31] <armence> lightpriest_, I just click the x and then forced quit
[00:31] <ricardoromao> froglet2, add what at the sudoers ?
[00:31] <perscitus> DBO.-> It goes well with KISS
[00:31] <MeXTuX> I booted with a Live CD and can't delete partitions with GParted. I got this message --> Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5
[00:31] <lightpriest_> ohhh
[00:32] <lightpriest_> that too ;p
[00:32] <DBO> perscitus, you should try out Docky v2.0 if you like that kind of thing
[00:32] <DBO> we are trying very hard to make it very KISS
[00:32] <jjgalvez> JonathanEllis: you can use gparted to do that, wow never know I could do that with it
[00:32] <ihcus> thanks furuno!
[00:32] <karmic_police> i've been having probs unmounting usb flash drives. the u3 icon anyways
[00:32] <kriel> oh, what's the hotkey to run a terminal from gnome?
[00:32] <hillshum> How do I let an application access a secret in my keyring?
[00:32] <infidel2s> where's gparted in koala?
[00:32] <karmic_police> alt f2
[00:32] <sebsebseb> karmic_police: there's an issue regarding usb  check out the release notes
[00:32] <sebsebseb> !notes |  karmic_police
[00:32] <clahey> So, I just tried to upgrade to karmic.
[00:32] <JonathanEllis> jjgalvez: Yeah, you just copy and past the partitions into empty space. You can even choose how big the pasted partition will be.
[00:32] <kriel> karmic_police: not a run line, a full terminal
[00:32] <furuno> kriel, ALT+F2 and type gnome-terminal / xterm ?
[00:33] <kriel> gnome-terminal is what I was asking for. kthx.
[00:33] <karmic_police> not sure
[00:33] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, ok, but the other user need to shutdown too but I don't want give the admin status to then
[00:33] <clahey> But it seems to be stuck on the following item: Preparing to replace emacs22 22.2-0ubuntu2 (using .../emacs22_22.2-0ubuntu6_i386.deb) ...
[00:33] <clahey> emacs22 subflavors still installed, not uninstalling flavor...
[00:33] <furuno> kriel, or you can always create a custome shortcut keys in System > Pref > Shortcut Keys
[00:33] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the dns server port for clients in ubuntu (field does not allow colons)?
[00:33] <jjgalvez> JonathanEllis: very cool I will have to give that a try
[00:33] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: Its much better practice to get the other users to log off first anyway. If the other logged in users have files open then there could be data loss
[00:34] <infidel2s> why don't i have gparted or system > preferences > partition  in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:34] <froglet2> ricardoromao, http://tinyurl.com/38sy74
[00:34] <sebsebseb> infidel2s: ,because for installs it does not get installed by default
[00:34] <sebsebseb> infidel2s: sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:34] <kankan_> can i install kde on gnome?
[00:34] <perscitus> DBO.->  Oh. your forking .. sorta.
[00:34] <furuno> infidel2s, it is not installed by default
[00:34] <sebsebseb> kankan_: You can run many KDE apps inside Gnome yes, just like many Gnome apps can run inside KDE
[00:34] <furuno> kankan_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <ricardoromao> JonathanEllis, yes, I know, but into a home desktop, I don't worry with this "possible problem"
[00:35] <furuno> kankan_, I'm doing it right now :)
[00:35] <hillshum> kankan_: They don't look right though
[00:35] <sebsebseb> kankan_: You can also have kubuntu-desktop installed and xubuntu-desktop as well if you want, and  select between them from the log in screen, choose which one to run
[00:35] <kankan_> furubo:is it a good idea?
[00:35] <JonathanEllis> How do I get grub to detect another distribution and update its menu so it can boot both?
[00:35] <Tonno> how do i remove every program of GNOME and only stay with XFCE?
[00:35] <furuno> kankan_ : I don't see anything bad?
[00:35] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns server in ubuntu (client-side)?
[00:35] <DBO> perscitus, not really a fork, just move the processes apart to let both breath more
[00:35]  * Gnea gives up
[00:35] <sebsebseb> kankan_:   hillshum   I run Konversation in  Gnome for example as my IRC client, and I like how it looks differnet from Gnome/GTK apps
[00:35] <furuno> kankan_, and you can switch between gnome / kde as you wish
[00:35] <kankan_> sebseb,furuno:will it slow down my speed?
[00:36] <DBO> perscitus, Docky had become over 50% of the code in Do, it just was impossible to continue with
[00:36] <furuno> kankan_, for modern PC, no, it just use more disk space
[00:36] <furuno> kankan_, actually, not at all
[00:36] <sebsebseb> kankan_: KDE 4  might be a bit slow I guess on hardly any RAM
[00:36] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: Well you have a choice: you can give admin rights to the user you want to allow to shutdown or you can get the other users to log off first. Its there for safety
[00:36] <mistahjc> Gnea: sorry im back
[00:36] <clahey> Does anyone know how to get my 9.10 upgrade unstuck?
[00:36] <perscitus> DBO.-> Just dont become like awn and become bloated
[00:37] <JonathanEllis> ricardoromao: Or you can give the user passwords of the other users so he can log them out first. Its really up to you
[00:37] <furuno> sudo apt-hardware install --oc:4.2G i7-920 *duh*
[00:37] <kankan_> sebseb,furuno:how much space will it take.i have only 512MB of ram.
[00:37] <kriel> Can I have a couple opinions on how well apt-get upgrade works from 9.04 -> 9.10? I'm not usually a big fan of OS upgrades (as opposed to fresh installs) however I'm tempted instead of dealing with my package issue.
[00:37] <DBO> perscitus, oh i know, we are avoiding bloat :)
[00:37] <Ubuntu1> hi, i got such a serious problem with my grub, because of the upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 with an Olibook
[00:37] <sebsebseb> clahey: Many people have had issues after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10,  some have had problems trying to upgrade such as yours even
[00:37] <jhb1608> how od I backup xorg.conf?
[00:37] <Brova> is there a difference between cd . and cd ..
[00:37] <Brova>  ?
[00:37] <jhb1608> do*
[00:37] <linuxguy2009> ZOk now Im really starting to think that 9.10 has package management issues for sure. Synaptic and Gdebi are both saying I have certain packages installed such as audacious and it doesnt even show in the menu.
[00:37] <Manifest> Hi, can anyone help me compile a package? I'm getting an error? If anyone can help PLEASE PM me!
[00:37] <sebsebseb> clahey: pretty sure there was someone else  not that long ago, saying  their upgrade got stuck
[00:37] <furuno> kankan_ : 512 MB might be a bit slow for KDE, and KDE will take some 754 MB more disk space
[00:37] <Syirrus> what the performance like (ubuntu 9.10) on core i7 with virtual box?
[00:37] <bastid_raZor> jhb1608: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[00:37] <JonathanEllis> jhb1608: Just copy it from /etc/X11 to somewhere else
[00:37] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: open terminal, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/<your username>/
[00:37] <sebsebseb> clahey: 9.10 is a good one to clean install really,  default Ext4 and Grub 2
[00:37] <killsoft> kriel: two systems upgraded fine, one is terribly hosed
[00:38] <trism> Brova: . is the current directory, .. is it's parent
[00:38] <jhb1608> how about in my home folder?
[00:38] <JonathanEllis> jhb1608: Anywhere you like
[00:38] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: that was your home folder (to where it was going to back it up)
[00:38] <jhb1608> ok
[00:38] <jhb1608> making a backup now
[00:38] <furuno> jhb1608, it's OK in the /etx/X11/ too, as xorg.conf.backup
[00:38] <Brova> trism: ok so cd . would just move me to where i already am ?
[00:38] <jhb1608> can I do both?
[00:38] <trism> Brova: yes
[00:38] <clahey> sebsebseb: I figured it out.  I had an nfs server mounted that I couldn't get to, so trying to do PATH lookups was blocking.
[00:38] <clahey> sebsebseb: Now it thinks there are 8 hours remaining because it spend an hour on that one.
[00:39] <kriel> killsoft: I'm expecting this system to rebuild this from scratch, so I may as well try the upgrade to see if it hoses or not. kthx.
[00:39] <Brova> trism: seems relatively pointless to me. but maybe im just neglecting something
[00:39] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns server in ubuntu (client-side)?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> clahey: (not that long ago as in around 24 hours or so ago)
[00:39] <fbnts> Hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu 9.02.  I have netboot installed it on a Micros touchscreen epos till.  It has an Intel 82810 graphics chip which all apears fine until after I login
[00:39] <mistahjc> hey can someone look at my image bin its on the last 50 postes
[00:39] <jhb1608> can I backup in both places?
[00:39] <mistahjc> the name is mistahjc
[00:39] <linuxguy2009> fbnts: 9.04 or 9.10?
[00:39] <clahey> sebsebseb: Hopefully those won't be issues.  How would ext4 cause problems?
[00:39] <furuno> jhb1608, anywhere you like :)
[00:39] <jhb1608> ok
[00:39] <ubuntu284> jhb: yes, just need 'sudo' before the command to go in the /etc
[00:39] <magmarules> Guys my GUi just died i cant use my mouse and nothing responds. I tryed alt+ctrl+backspace nothing happens. TTy service gdm stop says its refused
[00:40] <clahey> sebsebseb: Similar for grub2?
[00:40] <fbnts> the screen refreshes to where the desktop would be but it all screws up and looks like bad resolution or bad hardware
[00:40] <fbnts> sorry 9.04
[00:40] <sebsebseb> clahey: You won't get Ext4  if you upgrade,  unless you already done Ext4 in 9.04
[00:40] <mistahjc> and my problem is it wont let me install flash player
[00:40] <jhb1608> this chatroom is faster than the forum
[00:40] <fbnts> I origionally tried 9.10 but it did same thing
[00:40] <sebsebseb> clahey: Grub 2 is for clean installs also
[00:40] <furuno> magmarules, try rebooting in recovery mode and choose to repair xserver
[00:40] <oberdada> hello. i have an HP mini (2133) with ubuntu 8.04 (minbuntu).  After i installed the HP P1006 laserprinter on it i can no longer connect to the internet with my usb modem or through the wi-fi. Any suggestions?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> clahey: as for 9.10 issues and such well check out the release notes
[00:40] <jhb1608> I waited 3 days have no response, but here is like 5 minute response
[00:40] <sebsebseb> !notes |  clahey
[00:40] <jhb1608> it is easier in here
[00:40] <pARAd0X85> kriel, YankDownUnder  I booted to recovery mode and reset password, but as a certified Linux Professional, I can't image what happened !
[00:41] <furuno> mistahjc, have you tried : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[00:41] <oberdada> It does not even detect the wi-fi networks
[00:41] <mistahjc> can anyone help me install flash player 10 on this ubuntu 9.10
[00:41] <Brova> mistahjc: i just had this EXACT problem you did. and now it works for me
[00:41] <paissad-hp> hi all
[00:41] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: if it fails then Dell may know what they are talking about.. also if you look up the drive specs and that says no. then the drive specs, via google, are correct.
[00:41] <jhb1608> oh should I do the sudo command when copying a backup?
[00:41] <furuno> !hi | Brova
[00:41] <Brova> mistahjc: go to synaptic, and search for "flash player"
[00:41] <furuno> eh I mean :
[00:41] <furuno> !hi | paissad-hp
[00:41] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns server in ubuntu (client-side)?
[00:42] <kriel> pARAd0X85: Can I tell you something?
[00:42] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: I can't actually find the drive specs; all I can find are people in various fora saying they've done it
[00:42] <Jordan_U> jorgp: grub2 can boot iso files, but only if they support being loaded from a file.
[00:42] <jhb1608> should I do sudo on this command: "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/foousernamehere/"?
[00:42] <mistahjc> Brova: how do i get to synatic
[00:42] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: No
[00:42] <furuno> jhb1608, you don't need if you copying to home
[00:42] <Brova> mistahjc: remove absolutely everything and select complete removal, close firefox and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:42] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: not if its in your home directory
[00:42] <jhb1608> it won't let me
[00:42] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: look the drive up on google.com .. you will find the drive. i highly doubt it is not there.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> clahey: You might find if you continue with the upgrade,  that you do it,  it takes a while, and  you end up with some right issues.   So you might save yourself some time, by  downloading the 9.10  CD, md5sum checking it before burning the contents to CD, which is something that should be done really, and installing.
[00:43] <darkham> how can i set nautilus to watch, files dimension refresh when i'm creating it (as audio video conversions) ?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  clahey
[00:43] <jhb1608> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[00:43] <jhb1608> oh wait
[00:43] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: if on forums they claim it is possible. then how?
[00:43] <Brova> mistahjc: System > Administration > Synaptic Package manager
[00:43] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: it's not ... all I can find is spam sites claiming to have firmware or drivers
[00:43] <clahey> Why would I do an install instead of an upgrade?  Wouldn't that wipe out everything I have installed and so forth?
[00:43] <pARAd0X85> kriel yes
[00:43] <jhb1608> should I switch to home folder? what is the command?
[00:43] <clahey> And isn't the upgrade cycle one of the points?
[00:43] <Ubuntu1> can anyone help me to fix the boot? it starts like normally and after loading screen appears Busy Box always
[00:43] <sebsebseb> clahey: well yes
[00:43] <paissad-hp> i'm trying to have the same video output onto my vga screen and my lcd tv ... i followed the french tutorial for ubuntu (nvidia twinview) .. here is what i did --> sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview --> sudo nvidia-settings   -->  but the matter is that i just see one screen, and btw i just have the mouse xfce logo onto my lcd tv , not the desktop
[00:43] <paissad-hp> can someone help !
[00:43] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: cd
[00:44] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance
[00:44] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: give me the product info from lshw.
[00:44] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: the manufacturer's site doesn't have any specs, and another possible manufacturer doesn't list this specific model
[00:44] <sebsebseb> clahey: ,but apps are easy to re install usaully, well depending on what you have done,  and  if you have a seperate /home re installs are easier, and even distro hopping
[00:44] <clahey> (I went from Redhat 2.1 to Redhat 5.something through upgrades.  I only was interrupted because my hard drive was eaten by lightening.)
[00:44] <sebsebseb> !home | clahey
[00:44] <paissad-hp> btw, when the screensaver comes, i have the same output onto the 2 screens
[00:44] <paissad-hp> weird
[00:44] <jhb1608> still same thing ubuntu284
[00:44] <kriel> pARAd0X85: Computers glitch. It happens. Bitrot, solar flares, bugs, etc. It happens. Yes, you should spend some resources figuring out how it happened. Possibly you were hacked. But for the most part, fix it and move on, unless you have a specific hunch on how to fix it.
[00:44] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns entry in ubuntu (client-side)?
[00:44] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: TS-U633A
[00:44] <fbnts> Hi, I have a problem with Ubuntu 9.02.  I have netboot installed it on a Micros touchscreen epos till.  It has an Intel 82810 graphics chip which all apears fine until after I login
[00:44] <paissad-hp> btw, one of the output is vga and it's Dvi for the lcd tv
[00:45] <furuno> ubuntu284 : try the forum if you have no luck with IRC channel :)
[00:45] <fbnts> the screen refreshes to where the desktop would be but it all screws up and looks like bad resolution or bad hardware
[00:45] <darkham> how can i tweak nautilus in any way?
[00:45] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/username' && cd  && ls xorg.conf
[00:45] <clahey> sebsebseb: Yeah, I know about home partitions.  :)
[00:45] <furuno> darkham, modify the source code directly ? :)
[00:45] <ubuntu284> furuno: its like ABCs in linux, surely someone would know how to enter a dns server into ubuntu
[00:45] <Guest73210> first time user need help
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Guest73210
[00:45] <dygey1> somebody in romania around here
[00:45] <clahey> sebsebseb: I don't have a separate home partition, but I could handle it no problem if need be.
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !ro |  dygey1
[00:45] <darkham> furuno, oh... a little bit too much for me.... :)
[00:46] <clahey> Speaking of which, I need to find my external hard drive enclosures.
[00:46] <dygey1> seb?
[00:46] <dygey1> what?
[00:46] <jhb1608> ok ubuntu
[00:46] <bjsnider> DanaG, you won't have to switch away from gnome, because they're putting gnome 3 off another release cycle
[00:46] <sebsebseb> clahey: ok,  well expect to maybe get issues after doing a 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade
[00:46] <clahey> sebsebseb: Okay.
[00:46] <sebsebseb> dygey1: uhmm  there is probably a romaniain channel
[00:46] <clahey> sebsebseb: Sad face.
[00:46] <darkham> i only would add a real time refresh for files's dimension when i've nautilus open, in list view, when i'm creating or copying a big file
[00:47] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: then if you see the file it is in your home drive; you can do a 'find / -name xorg.conf' to find it if its not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:47] <infidel2s> i just went into 'recover mode' but the recovery menu isn't letting me scroll down to 'root    Drop to root shell prompt'. does that mean it's crashed? the arrow keys, space, tab, and enter arent doing anything
[00:47] <Penguin342> Is there any way to switch the uid of ftp written files from "ftp" to something else?
[00:47] <jhb1608> same thing
[00:47] <dygey1> there is.but is nobody there'
[00:47] <jhb1608> odd.
[00:47] <furuno> dygey1 : try asking here?
[00:47] <Guest73210> after restarting my pc, cant connect to internet
[00:48] <jhb1608> odd ubuntu284, I tried your command, it won't work, produces the same result
[00:48] <ubuntu284> Guest73210: in terminal, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:48] <furuno> Guest73210 : from live cd and after installation ?
[00:48] <nuHe> hola
[00:48] <jhb1608> I tried this: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/jason && cd  && ls xorg.conf
[00:48] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: did you try the 'find / -name xorg.conf'?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> !es |  nuHe
[00:48] <dygey1> i've asked....somebody to know about an adsl or dsl or pppoe connectin in 9.10???
[00:48] <jhb1608> not yet
[00:48] <jhb1608> doing it now
[00:48] <gulzimo> hello dudes
[00:48] <nuHe> alguien sabe de donde bajar el tema que lleva ubuntu?
[00:48] <furuno> dygey1 : use nm-applet ?
[00:48] <blastermaster> is there a proble with pulse audio and games with crackling sound? I have that problem with Regnum online and cant seem to fix it anyone?
[00:48] <ubuntu284> !hi | gulzimo
[00:48] <darkchest> what is with with this new release and the nvidia cards
[00:48] <furuno> !hi | gulzimo
[00:49] <raskolnik> nuHe: a cual tema te refieres?
[00:49] <darkchest> i have been trying to fix my display for hours
[00:49] <jhb1608> permission denied
[00:49] <gulzimo> I just installed xchat-gnome
[00:49] <darkchest> i keep getting stuck on 600x400
[00:49] <sebsebseb> !nividia |  darkchest
[00:49] <nuHe> raskolnik, al que lleva ubuntu 9.10
[00:49] <Penguin342> Well, I mean automatically have the uid of an ftp'd file change to something other than the uid of "FTP".
[00:49] <jhb1608> ubuntu284: permission declined
[00:49] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try it with a sudo command before
[00:49] <furuno> nuHe : speak in C please, so everyone can understand (or so, not me) :)
[00:49] <dygey1> furuno...what that means?
[00:49] <bjsnider> DarK``_, we try to make it easy, but users can still screw it up
[00:49] <jhb1608> ok
[00:49] <fbnts> How do I get xorg to load a standard VGA driver?
[00:49] <kubuntuser> !es | nuHe
[00:49] <bjsnider> darkchest, , we try to make it easy, but users can still screw it up
[00:49] <furuno> dygey1 : you want to configure your network right?
[00:49] <gulzimo> ok nice talking bye.
[00:50] <ubuntu284> kubuntuser: i think its portuguese
[00:50] <sebsebseb> darkchest: Nividia is the best when it comes to graphics cards for Linux
[00:50] <jhb1608> found nothing ubuntu284
[00:50] <furuno> dygey1, try System > Preference > Network COnenction
[00:50] <darkchest> i have been searching for solutions and i see a lot of issues pertaining to the resolution
[00:50] <dygey1> furuno:yes.i tried like in 9.04 but nothing
[00:50] <kubuntuser> ubuntu284: really?
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !xorg |  darkchest
[00:50] <dygey1> many bugs in 9.10
[00:50] <blastermaster> anyone can help me with sound crackling with Regnum online game?
[00:50] <ubuntu284> kubuntuser: they are quite close (to spanish)
[00:50] <dygey1> alredy tried
[00:51] <kubuntuser> ubuntu284: ok, I am not much of a linguist :-)
[00:51] <sebsebseb> !envqng  |  dygey1
[00:51] <trism> darkchest: did you install the restricted drivers (System/Administration/Hardware Drivers)?
[00:51] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: what if you do a 'cd /etc/X11 && ls *.conf' without the quotes
[00:51] <paissad-hp> i'm trying to have the same video output onto my vga screen and my lcd tv ... i followed the french tutorial for ubuntu (nvidia twinview) .. here is what i did --> sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview --> sudo nvidia-settings   -->  but the matter is that i just see one screen, and btw i just have the mouse xfce logo onto my lcd tv , not the desktop
[00:51] <sebsebseb> !envyng  |  dygey1
[00:51] <dygey1> sebsebseb??
[00:51] <dygey1> thanks,no nvidia
[00:51] <tblake3> Are there any known bugs with Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:52] <jhb1608> ubuntu284: jason@jason-desktop:/etc/X11$ sudo cd /etc/X11 && ls *.conf
[00:52] <jhb1608> sudo: cd: command not found
[00:52] <tblake3>  as far as dual monitor support in Karmic?
[00:52] <darkchest> i did install the drivers...the three displayed (i believe they were 173, 8smthg and one last one)
[00:52] <darkchest> none of them fixed the problem
[00:52] <sebsebseb> dygey1: messaged wrong one
[00:52] <paissad-hp> why don't i have the same output onto the 2 screens please
[00:52] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try that command without the sudo then
[00:52] <sebsebseb> darkchest: look above at what the bot put
[00:52] <dygey1> seb,no problem
[00:52] <darkchest> ubottu: i bookmarked ur link
[00:52] <trism> paissad-hp: did you configure your displays on the x server display configurations menu in nvidia-settings?
[00:52] <ccd>  hi gitso for karmic - how to install? thnx
[00:52] <darkchest> okay
[00:53] <sebsebseb> darkchest: ubottu is a computer program, not a person
[00:53] <darkchest> i thot it was real
[00:53] <unperson> Hi.  I just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic using the upgrade tool, and now my machine freezes during boot.  It does boot successfully to a root prompt in recovery mode.
[00:53] <sebsebseb> darkchest: she is also female
[00:53] <sebsebseb> !gender |  darkchest
[00:53] <paissad-hp> trism, in nvidia-settings, i just can see one screen
[00:53] <paissad-hp> that's the matter
[00:53] <jhb1608> jason@jason-desktop:/etc/X11$ sudo cd /etc/X11 && ls *.conf
[00:53] <jhb1608> sudo: cd: command not found
[00:53] <unperson> I tried looking at the logs for the failed boot, but the log files appear to have no record of it.  I'm at a loss for how to troubleshoot it.
[00:53] <jhb1608> same thing
[00:53] <dygey1> unperson,and your network still works?
[00:53] <O__o> hello how to find more font in ubuntu?
[00:53] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: i take back what i said. that drive must be a bastid child or something. i did not find specs either.
[00:54] <sebsebseb> !fonts |  O__o
[00:54] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: without the sudo command before? so it reads cd /etc/X11 && ls *.conf
[00:54] <jhb1608> I did
[00:54] <darkchest> the thing is that i installed envyNG and all that
[00:54] <oberdada> Hello i recently installed the HP P1006 printer on mi HP mini but lost the internet connection there (wi-fi and usb modem doesnt work).  What could the problem be?
[00:54] <jhb1608> ls: cannot access *.conf: No such file or directory
[00:54] <darkchest> i still couldnt get my computer to display above 600x400
[00:54] <sebsebseb> darkchest: I think 9.04 might be better for your graphics card
[00:54] <trism> darkchest: what nvidia card do you have?
[00:54] <unperson> dygey1, Not sure what you're asking.  I can boot to root+network in recovery mode, but I'm currently connecting from a different machine.
[00:54] <Scotch> Is there a way to send the same stereo signal on multiple outputs ? e.g. front & side outputs being the same signal ? I can do it under windows with the Realtek panel but can't seem to get it working under Ubuntu...
[00:54] <darkchest> i actually ran into a problem with the flickering screen
[00:54] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: lol, yeah...and unfortunately "because K3B says so" isn't enough to convince Dell that the drive is messed up (assuming it even is)
[00:54] <darkchest> flickering command prompt
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: agreed.
[00:55] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home
[00:55] <Kuriouz> oberdada: a shot in the dark but irq problems?
[00:55] <unperson> dygey1, That is, it can still connect to the network in the mode.  I'm not chatting from that machine ATM
[00:55] <darkchest> i believe so also
[00:55] <O__o> sebsebseb, i have problem viewing chinese characters in vlc subtitle or Mplayer subtitle
[00:55] <dygey1> unperson,i was askinf if you still can connect to the internet
[00:55] <jhb1608> still same
[00:55] <paissad-hp> trism, when i start nvidia-settings, i should see two models of screens, am i wrong ? ..... i just see one model for me ()
[00:55] <jhb1608> oh wait
[00:55] <darkchest> trism: i have nvidia 61xx
[00:55] <unperson> dygey1, Yes, I can.
[00:55] <jhb1608> should I cd again?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> O__o: I am not sure about that, but  if your Chinese well, there is also a chinese channel on here
[00:55] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: go ahead, that won't hurt anything
[00:55] <unperson> dygey1, At least in the recovery mode root prompt.
[00:55] <darkchest> sebseb: i believe u r right
[00:56] <dygey1> unperson:how?via pppoe?
[00:56] <sebsebseb> O__o: and they may be able to help better than here
[00:56] <miromanyth> Hello!
[00:56] <oberdada> IRQ problems? please explain kuriouz
[00:56] <dygey1> or a router?
[00:56] <O__o> sebsebseb, i can see the characters display correctly in srt file but it comes out with square in vlc
[00:56] <jhb1608> ubuntu284: still strange, same issues
[00:56] <jhb1608> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[00:56] <unperson> dygey1, No, it's behind a router (NAT).
[00:56] <miromanyth> What is the version of Catalyst in the restricted hardware manager?
[00:56] <O__o> the chinese channel is dead sebsebseb
[00:56] <miromanyth> in Karmic
[00:56] <sebsebseb> !cn |  O__o
[00:56] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: made in Chine  :\
[00:56] <Brova> is there a difference between Linux+ and Linux ? :/
[00:56] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: i can confirm that file is there: user@COMPUTER:/etc/X11$ ls *.conf --> xorg.conf
[00:56] <bastid_raZor> s/Chine/China
[00:56] <sebsebseb> O__o: well early morning there right now, which could be why
[00:56] <O__o> sebsebseb, no one is on there...
[00:57] <trism> paissad-hp: yeah you should, mine were automatically detected, I just needed to configure them..not sure what the problem is, sorry
[00:57] <jhb1608> strange.
[00:57] <dygey1> unperson:so you do not have pppoe:(i was curious...i have and i can't connect
[00:57] <paissad-hp> trism, ok thanks
[00:57] <raskolnik> second question: how do I get avidemux to automatically split a file into pieces?
[00:57] <darkchest> sebsebseb: how do u edit the grub in karmic?
[00:57] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: probably ... pity I can't get more info though
[00:57] <sebsebseb> darkchest: /boot/grub/  uhmmm config or something instead of menu.lst
[00:57] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  darkchest
[00:57] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try (should take a while) a: sudo find / -name xorg.conf
[00:57] <unperson> dygey1, No  My DSL doesn't use PPPoE, and anyway the machine in question wouldn't be the one connecting.
[00:58] <miromanyth> What is the version of Catalyst in the restricted hardware manager? (Karmic)
[00:58] <Penguin342> is there any scripting I can implore that will automatically change the owners of a folder (and all folders/files under it) to a particular uid?  Maybe using cron??
[00:58] <darkchest> sebsebseb: but the file wrote in all caps "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"
[00:58] <dygey1> unperson,ok thanks man
[00:58] <sebsebseb> darkchest: I am not sure how to edit it
[00:58] <Kuriouz> oberdada: you shouldn't have this problem but depending on your mb ... i used to have an old one and the interupts kept conflicting ... what do you see in dmsg when you reboot?
[00:58] <jhb1608> jason@jason-desktop:~$ sudo find / -name xorg.conf
[00:58] <jhb1608> [sudo] password for jason:
[00:58] <jhb1608> jason@jason-desktop:~$
[00:58] <unperson> I've also tried running an apt-get upgrade in recovery mode, and it doesn't show any problem.
[00:58] <sebsebseb> darkchest: there's also #grub
[00:58] <erwin02> who has successfully installed c43 using wine?
[00:58] <miromanyth> !catalyst
[00:58] <miromanyth> !ati
[00:58] <paissad-hp> trism, of the output is vga and the other dvi ... i should have the same ouput ? .. right ?
[00:58] <jhb1608> strange, yes ubuntu284?
[00:58] <Guest73210> tried that but nothing happen. read somewhere have to enter "pon dsl-provider" but it says command not found
[00:58] <brodeurpc> how do you install and run gnome on Ubuntu Server 9.10 i have tried "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" it downloaded but will not run
[00:58] <oberdada> kuriouz: let me turn on the HP and i'll tell you...
[00:58] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns entry in ubuntu (client-side)?
[00:58] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: http://www.berlinkauf.com/TSU-A-123428.html  is the best i found and it doesn't give specs on capabilities.
[00:59] <kjele> Penguin342: You can write your own with chown -R command
[00:59] <miromanyth> !amd
[00:59] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: did it finish searching?
[00:59] <miromanyth> !fglrx
[00:59] <jhb1608> yes but found nothing.
[00:59] <miromanyth> !fglrx
[00:59] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: lol!
[00:59] <unperson> Also, I successfully booted from the Karmic live CD.  Although I did get some weird error about ECC mode not being on.
[00:59] <dygey1> does anyone have 9.10 around here?
[00:59] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: let me see how to regenerate the file; don't reboot until that file exists
[00:59] <trism> paissad-hp: mine is set up the same way, monitor is dvi, tv is vga
[00:59] <Penguin342> well, i know I can go into a folder each time a new file/folder is added and do a chown -R on it.  But how do I automate that process with a folder that is ftp'd into.  The FTP programs wont let you set the uid of the files you are uploading.
[01:00] <jhb1608> it's ok ubuntu284
[01:00] <miromanyth> !32 bit
[01:00] <jhb1608> I can wait and not rebooting
[01:00] <paissad-hp> trism, mine is the opposite, dvi for the tv and vga for the monitor ... but we don't care i think
[01:00] <Sneex> how do I rest/blank uot an ethernet interface?  I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces and rebooting but the address is still attached
[01:00] <darkchest> thanks trism sebsebseb and all
[01:00] <dygey1> !9.10
[01:00] <trism> paissad-hp: yeah it shouldn't matter
[01:00] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: regenerate your xorg.conf using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53449
[01:00] <paissad-hp> trism, would you like to pastebin me your xorg.conf please ?
[01:00] <darkchest> i will be around 2mrow to look for help in figuring out what is wrong with my resolution
[01:01] <paissad-hp> if possible :)
[01:01] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: any thoughts on my avidemux issue?
[01:01] <jhb1608> yes I heard of this command before in the forum. I didn't know until you explained
[01:01] <sebsebseb> darkchest: np good luck
[01:01] <jhb1608> done ubuntu284
[01:01] <trism> paissad-hp: alright, one sec
[01:01] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: nope, sorry.keep asking the channel. someone may know.
[01:01] <kjele> Penguin342: I do not follow. Do you upload a file and want to claim ownership or browser some files and want to claim ownership?
[01:02] <dygey1> i'll go back to vista:((thanks all for helping me
[01:02] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: now try a sudo find /etc/X11 -name xorg.conf
[01:02] <sebsebseb> dygey1: why?
[01:02] <dygey1> :(
[01:02] <dygey1> seb i was saying that all night
[01:02] <jhb1608> found nothing
[01:02] <jhb1608> so weird
[01:02] <brodeurpc> how do you install and run gnome on Ubuntu Server 9.10 i have tried "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" it downloaded but will not run
[01:02] <dygey1> didn't you read
[01:02] <jhb1608> I did read
[01:02] <sebsebseb> dygey1: nope
[01:02] <epinky> Sneex: no need to reboot "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[01:02] <Penguin342> kjele: I know I can go into a folder each time someone ftps into it and manally change chown settings.  How would I automate this, since FTP programs do not let you set uid/gid from there.
[01:03] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try a: cd /etc/X11 && ls -a
[01:03] <miromanyth> What is the version of Catalyst in the restricted hardware manager? (Karmic)
[01:03] <ryan__> i tried creating a startup application to configure my touchpad at each boot, for example 'synclient TapButton2=2', yet it has no effect when I start up
[01:03] <Kuriouz> oberdada: you might want to try this ..   cat /proc/interrupts
[01:03] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: do you see an xorg.conf file there?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dygey1: If you have problems with 9.10 try an earlier version,  if you have problems with 9.04, try 8.04
[01:03] <dygey1> ok.i've upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10...my pppoe doesn't work anymore
[01:03] <Sneex> epinky: I am remote to the server and that locks me out :P
[01:03] <oberdada_> Kuriouz: what is dmsg? i thought it was a command you were giving me
[01:03] <thiebaude> !info catalyst
[01:03] <Sneex> so I just reboot
[01:03] <dygey1> welll,i want 9.10
[01:03] <Penguin342> kjele: I want to upload a file to a directory but not have the default uid of the program (usually ftp programs set the uid to the name "ftp")
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dygey1: Also isntead of  just going back to Vista, beause of Ubuntu issues,  well there are other distros you can try,   Mandriva for example
[01:03] <jhb1608> no
[01:03] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns entry in ubuntu (client-side)?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dygey1: Mandriva is  pretty user friendly as well
[01:04] <miromanyth> !info fglrx
[01:04] <dygey1> more friendly than ubuntu?
[01:04] <jhb1608> ubuntu284: no I don't
[01:04] <unperson> what is the most recent version of the kernel supposed to be in karmic?
[01:04] <alex87> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:04] <oberdada> Kuriouz: i did the cat thingy.  What exactly am i looking for?
[01:04] <sebsebseb> dygey1:  In some ways yes
[01:04] <bastid_raZor> unperson: 2.6.31-14
[01:04] <miromanyth> GAH ubottu
[01:05] <fbnts> How do I get xorg to load a standard VGA driver?
[01:05] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: that was a question for anyone; that regeneration command seemed to work for every person on the internet; let me look around for 2 min
[01:05] <dygey1> seb,ok!but which is the best linux?
[01:05] <sudoer> how do i turn off services from the terminal? I just installed ubuntu and turned on these services that I dont think I will ever use
[01:05] <jhb1608> ok
[01:05] <kjele> Penguin342: If you upload something to a durectory through ftp then the owner of the directory will have the ownership.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> !best |  dygey1
[01:05] <unperson> bastid_raZor, thanks
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> sudoer: There are various ways, but I find the 'sysv-rc-conf' package to be rather convenient for that.
[01:05] <dygey1> seb,on your opinion....my god
[01:05] <sebsebseb> dygey1: of course that bot won't say another distro is better, the one in the channel
[01:05] <miromanyth> !flash
[01:05] <sudoer> tonyyarusso:  I need to install that first?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> dygey1: this has gone off topic, you can pm me
[01:06] <dygey1> ok
[01:06] <sudoer> I just want to use some simple gui in the terminal to shut it off real quick
[01:06] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> sudoer: Yeah.  The 'stock' way is a little more complicated.
[01:06] <Kuriouz> oberdada: basically this is how your os communicates with your hw ... but you can have conflicts ...you said you just hooked up a printer right?
[01:06] <Penguin342> kjele: in my case, that doesnt seem to happen.  A file ftp'd into the /var/www folder has the uid "ftp" instead of "www-data" which is the uid of the folder /var/www
[01:06] <Scotch> how do I manage to set alsa to redirect all audio to pulseaudio ?
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> sudoer: (btw, the other way is the update-rc.d command)
[01:06] <Guest73210> anyone using/j ubuntu-help
[01:06] <unperson> How can I set xorg to use a "safe" video driver (e.g., vesa)?   I thought I could get that with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but that command just returned me to the prompt without doing anything.
[01:06] <oberdada> yes.  After i hooked up the HP printer, i can no longer hook up to the internet
[01:07] <fbnts> Is there a way to resrict X11 from load a particular module?
[01:07] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try sudo Xorg -configure from http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107250.0 (might be a HAL issue)
[01:07] <sudoer> tonyyarusso: cool, that worked
[01:07] <Kuriouz> oberdada: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[01:08] <oberdada> after doing cat /proc/interrupts i get a long list of things, none of which ressemble a wi-fi or usb modem connection
[01:08] <Ponuwon> how do you get Gnome desktop to work on server 9.10?
[01:08] <jhb1608> wow ubuntu284, I got that error, how do I paste?
[01:08] <ubuntu284> !pastebin | jhb1608
[01:08] <unperson> Ponuwon, Can't you just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:08] <Kuriouz> oberdada: usb printer?
[01:08] <kjele> Penguin342: Strange. Might be some configuration files. It is not the same on mine. But then I use ftps
[01:09] <sudoer> also another thing I noticed, ubuntu doesnt seem to have a wheel group? how are people designated as able to sudo?
[01:09] <Sneex> Anyone have a good "policy routing" how-to -- I have a server which sits on 2 CIDR/networks and I want the server to have 2 default routes. I want traffic that came in eth1 to go back out eth1, not eth0, and vice-versa
[01:09] <paissad-hp> trism, i just remark that actually my display is like it was splitted, i have my background image onto my monitor and the xfce logo onto my lcd tv ... btw when i used compiz, i saw that the background image and the xfce logo image seem to form one single image !
[01:09] <Penguin342> yeah, I use Filezilla to FTP
[01:09] <paissad-hp> really weird
[01:09] <Chicagos_Coolest> does anyone know if ubuntu 9.10 can save sessions still??? like for multiple workspaces/desktops...if i restart my comp it restarts and opens all of the same progs?
[01:09] <Penguin342> kjele: I use Filezilla to FTP and there is no options to say what the ownership of uploaded files should be (obviously)
[01:09] <Ponuwon> unperson, already tried it but the repositories won't download anything.
[01:09] <jhb1608> http://paste.ubuntu.com/310094/
[01:09] <paissad-hp> as if the monitor shows the left  part image and the lcd tv shows the right one !
[01:09] <ubuntu284> anyone know how to change the port on a dns entry in ubuntu (client-side)?
[01:10] <Chicagos_Coolest> does anyone know if ubuntu 9.10 can save sessions still??? like for multiple workspaces/desktops...if i restart my comp it restarts and opens all of the same progs?
[01:10] <oberdada> kuriouz: auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback
[01:10] <kjele> Penguin342: Should be something that is called preserve file permission
[01:10] <unperson> Ponuwon, What do you mean?  Like apt-get says the package doesn't exist, or it can't download the package, or what?
[01:10] <oberdada> kuriouz: yes, an usb printer
[01:10] <Penguin342> kjele: in filezilla?
[01:10] <Ponuwon> it says E: cannot find package
[01:10] <jhb1608> ubuntu284: http://paste.ubuntu.com/310094/ here
[01:10] <kjele> Penguin342: yea
[01:10] <Sneex> ubuntu284: DNS answers/works on tcp (or udp) oprt 53 -- there isn't anything to change
[01:11] <Sneex> s/oprt/port
[01:11] <unperson> Ponuwon, I see.
[01:11] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: that means that you should write down that command, so in case you don't see anything, you can alt+ctrl+F1 (then alt+ctrl+F7 to get back to GUI) and type that command in after a reboot if no one here as any other suggestions
[01:11] <jhb1608> aha ok
[01:11] <Penguin342> kjele: would that work if the file on the client is chowned differently than the www-data:www-data chownership of the place the files are going to?
[01:11] <ubuntu284> Sneex: i need to enter a dns server of a different port
[01:11] <unperson> Ponuwon, well, in that case I'm really not certain.  I haven't played with Ubuntu server.
[01:11] <The_Journey> why doesnt ubuntu recognize my DVD 4.7G disk when I put it in?
[01:11] <JonathanEllis> I have both Jaunty and Hardy installed in a dual boot configuration but I installed Jaunty first. How can I get Jaunty's grub menu to include Hardy and to automatically update when Hardy installs new kernels?
[01:11] <TonyTheTiger> I cant access the internet, please someone help I have been trying to fix this for days!
[01:11] <raskolnik> bastid_raZor: alright, well, thanks for your help!
[01:11] <jhb1608> can you paste the command again ubuntu284?
[01:11] <bastid_raZor> raskolnik: best of luck.
[01:11] <jhb1608> in pastebin please
[01:11] <trism> paissad-hp: I have compiz disabled...are you saying that it is working but one is just an empty desktop? cause that is how twinview works by default
[01:11] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try sudo Xorg -configure from http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107250.0 (might be a HAL issue)
[01:12] <taofd> I am on Karmic x64 and flash 10 (even from the adobe website) does not work with me... anyone else experiencing the same problem? whenever I open website that requires flash, firefox (or any browser) just crashes
[01:12] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: Can you describe your problem in more detail please
[01:12] <Ponuwon> unperson, thanx, I'll ask again
[01:12] <Sneex> ubuntu284: OK, I understand what you want but I do not think it is possible
[01:12] <paissad-hp> trism, yes, one is an empty desktop
[01:12] <Ponuwon> how do you get Gnome desktop to work on server 9.10?
[01:12] <ubuntu284> Sneex: Ubuntu and not possible in the same sentence?
[01:12] <kjele> Penguin342: If it is a website you mean then the only thing that matters is the other permission, which have to set to read.
[01:12] <ubuntu284> Sneex: what about a ssh port forwarding loop to localhost?
[01:13] <trism> paissad-hp: if you want panels and stuff you need to create them yourself, I don't know how to do that with xfce...in gnome I think you can just create a new one and drag it, I haven't tried though *goes to try*
[01:13] <paissad-hp> trism, but i want the same desktop everywhre
[01:13] <jhb1608> and then, ubuntu284?
[01:13] <The_Journey> why doesnt ubuntu recognize my DVD 4.7G disk when I put it in?
[01:13] <ubuntu284> Sneex: i assume that won't work with UDP though
[01:13] <SirStan> With Ubuntu; the versions of software are typically 'frozen' per release correct?  Ie .. if i have ubuntu 8.04 and Open Office 2.4, OO 3 will never show up as a n update until I upgrade ot ubuntu 9.04 right?
[01:13] <Penguin342> kjele: I see no setting in filezilla that will allow me to keep the uid from changing to "FTP" when the upload happens.
[01:13] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis yes, I have the bcm5751 ethernet and bcm4306 wifi but neither works. no matter what I try it doesnt work, and to make matters worse its a laptop without cd drive so i cant even activate restricted drivers.
[01:13] <Kuriouz> oberdada: are all these things usb?
[01:13] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: i am out of ideas besides that command; stay in here for a little while, i'll research a little longer; it might be a HAL issue with Ubuntu 9.10
[01:13] <Ponuwon> how do you get Gnome desktop to work on server 9.10?
[01:13] <paissad-hp> trism, even with gnome
[01:14] <jhb1608> ok
[01:14] <markx> Hi. After a Suspend the system doesnt wake up and I have to turn off the computer to have it back. Is there a solution?
[01:14] <Sneex> ubuntu284: The port forward would likmit the Ubuntu client to that DNS server, why not use nsupdate?
[01:14] <Scotch> I have a 5.1 sound card and I would like alsa to output the same stereo sound but from 2 physical outputs, is it possible ?
[01:14] <kjele> Penguin342: I see. But is it that important that it must have www-data? Does it have www-data as it groups?
[01:14] <taofd> anyone else experiencing problems with flash on x64? my experience has been dismal so far :(
[01:14] <zenit> Penguin342: how do you authenticate as, user ftp or your regular user? Do you upload to a specific upload directory only?
[01:14] <TonyTheTiger> i have been trying to fix this problem for 3 days everyday asking on here, but nobody helps.
[01:14] <Penguin342> I think so.  All var/www files (and subdirectories) have the chown as www-data:www-data
[01:14] <SirStan> With Ubuntu; the versions of software are typically 'frozen' per release correct?  Ie .. if i have ubuntu 8.04 and Open Office 2.4, OO 3 will never show up as a n update until I upgrade ot ubuntu 9.04 right?
[01:14] <oberdada> the printer and the modem is usb. but now, the mini doesnt even detect wi-fi networks
[01:15] <jhb1608> I have problems in Flash's setting dialog in x32
[01:15] <Sneex> ubuntu284: Of course you can use SSH port forwarding but it would need to be manually setup and taken down if thats OK with you
[01:15] <oberdada> that's no usb
[01:15] <ubuntu284> Sneex: not possible; i am bypassing my ISPs bad DNS servers because they blocked port 53
[01:15] <Penguin342> zenit: As of now, Im using vsftpd.  I am wondering if there is a setting in the vsftpd.conf file that would do this.
[01:15] <Sneex> ubuntu284: have you tried OpenDNS ?
[01:16] <ubuntu284> Sneex: they are blocking it with OpenDNS
[01:16] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: Please describe exactly what is not working and write what steps you have already tried. If its too long for one line, please pastebin it and post the link here. Sorry to be pedantic but in order to help you someone will need to see EXACTLY what the problem is and exactly what steps you have taken already to fix it.
[01:16] <Sneex> ubuntu284: DNS can work oiver tcp
[01:16] <Sneex> over*
[01:16] <Penguin342> zenit: all Im trying to do is make it so I can transfer to this directory, without having to go in to the server's command line and "chown -R filename"
[01:16] <zenit> Penguin342: it might be, especially if it is a dedicated upload directory as set in the ftp server. Then it might be set to change the ownership to ftp on all uploaded files.
[01:16] <ubuntu284> Sneex: yes, currently TOR is the only DNS server on localhost port 53
[01:16] <trism> paissad-hp: yeah I don't think you can do that with twinview, although in gnome you could create two new panels and drag them to the other desktop and then add all the stuff you have on the other display
[01:16] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: adobe flash?
[01:16] <Sneex> the onion router :P
[01:16] <jhb1608> yup
[01:16] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis I have been trying to fix this for the past week, everyday. I dont think even i can remember what i have done now.
[01:16] <Penguin342> zenit: what is the ftp server program for it.  This server is next to me and it uses gnome
[01:16] <zenit> I am pretty sure that vsftpd has quite strict upload settings by default, haven't played with it for awhile though.
[01:17] <Kuriouz> oberdada: but your cat5e works?  Assuming since you said mini .. NetbookRemix 9.10?
[01:17] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: did you install from a *.deb or other extension-ed file?
[01:17] <fbnts> It appears that the i810_dri module is crashing my X install
[01:17] <TonyTheTiger> and the problem is as i said, no network activity wifi or ethernet.
[01:17] <TonyTheTiger> just dead.
[01:17] <Ponuwon> how do you get Gnome desktop to work on server 9.10?
[01:17] <jhb1608> no just adobe flash installer
[01:17] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: Unfortunately "internet is broken" is not much to go on.
[01:17] <oberdada> Kuriouz: what is cat5e? i'm using ubuntu 8.04 (minbuntu) on that mini
[01:17] <zenit> Penguin342: it is just plain vsftpd, you probably want to read the documentation about it and change some setttings in vsftpd.conf
[01:17] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis well what more would you like to me to describe/explain?
[01:17] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: try downloading the *.deb from adobe's website and install that with sudo dpkg -i adobe*.deb
[01:17] <fbnts> here is the section from the x log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/310103/
[01:18] <Penguin342> zenit: It seems like a simple task, but all I want to do is transfer files from my laptop  to the server's /var/www , the files automatically chowning to www-data:www-data
[01:18] <markx> anyone knows how i can solve a problem related with Suspend mode?
[01:18] <fbnts> does anyone know what could be causing this?
[01:18] <r00to3> anybody recommend CBT nuggets tutorials ?
[01:18] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis there is no network activity, at all.
[01:18] <jhb1608> ok
[01:18] <The_reaper489> ok
[01:18] <Penguin342> zenit: I did read up on it and it seems to suggest that there is no setting for that if you are ftping non-annonymously
[01:18] <Kuriouz> oberdada: if you plug a ethernet cable in... so it's just wi-fi
[01:18] <jaypro> im trying to create a user in mysql, so i typed "mysql --user=root mysql" to log in as root, but got an error message: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[01:18] <zenit> Penguin342: you can also set the upload directory to be setuid www-data, then created files in it will have the owner set
[01:18] <unperson> Ponuwon, btw, the server FAQ says it uses the same repositories as the desktop edition.  So it's very puzzling that it can't find the ubuntu-desktop package (unless they changed the name)
[01:18] <SirStan> Ponuwon: typically you dont use a GUI on server.
[01:18] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Can you pastebin the output of "route -r" "nm-tool" and "sudo dhclient eth0" with ethernet connected?
[01:19] <The_reaper489> jaypro: use Sudo comand
[01:19] <oberdada> i've not tried plugging in an ethernet cable.
[01:19] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Sorry, "route -n"
[01:19] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: Have you checked for physical connectivity first? Do you have ethernet connection lights for example?
[01:19] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U how would i pastebin, the machine cant access internet.
[01:19] <Penguin342> zenit: how do I do that.  I tried "chmod u+s /var/www" but it didnt do it.  It worked for the group ID (via "chmod g+s /var/www/")
[01:19] <The_reaper489> jaypro:sudo mysql --user=root mysql
[01:19] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Save the output to a flash drive
[01:19] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis yes, its completely dead.
[01:19] <jaypro> The_reaper489 yeah i still get that message
[01:19] <unperson> Can someone remind me how I can set GDM so that it doesn't automatically start on boot? (i.e., boot to runlevel 3)
[01:19] <jaypro> even with sudo
[01:19] <taofd> anyone here that can help with x64 flash problems?
[01:19] <The_reaper489> did you put in your pass for sudo?
[01:20] <Jordan_U> !boot | unperson
[01:20] <jaypro> The_reaper489> yes i did put in the password when asked
[01:20] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U unfortunatly im not close to my lan and im using someone elses computer and just have my laptop beside me.
[01:20] <kjele> Penguin342: on line 66 in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[01:20] <The_reaper489> jaypro: maybe you dont have admin privlages
[01:20] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Does networking work from a LiveCD?
[01:21] <hillshum> Jordan_U: It should
[01:21] <rliegh> I'm using 09.10 for i386. does anyone know if you can run either of the xen packages side-by-side with virtualbox?
[01:21] <Penguin342> kjele: I might need to pull up the original vsftpd.conf file because line 66 has nothing
[01:21] <jaypro> The_reaper489 well, first i used "su" to a super user, then "sudo mysql --user=root mysql" and got the error
[01:21] <djustice> hrm. im compiling qt-copy and i get a missing dbus/dbus.h. what package do i need?
[01:21] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U does not have a cd drive, i used a usb install. But live usb did not.
[01:21] <kjele> Penguin342: #chown_uploads=YES
[01:21] <kjele> #chown_username=whoever
[01:21] <ray__> how can I get ubuntu to recognize my ati radeon x 1300 pro pci video card?
[01:21] <SirStan> alec_: hai
[01:21] <The_reaper489> jaypro: i see, ill google the error message lol
[01:22] <jaypro> haha me too
[01:22] <ray__> under hardware drivers, it says no propreitary drivers installed
[01:22] <ubuntu284> anyone know why jhb1608 can't regenerate his xorg.conf file with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:22] <ray__> and when i tried installing th elinux drivers it sent my linux to command line only
[01:22] <kjele> Penguin342: Obs it was line 63
[01:22] <jhb1608> yeah I wonder the same thing
[01:22] <trism> djustice: libdbus-1-dev
[01:22] <ray__> and when i trried the next time with th fglxr driver
[01:22] <paissad-hp> trism, actually, twinview just extend the desktop .... not share it
[01:22] <ray__> same thing happened
[01:22] <Jordan_U> ubuntu284:The xserver-xorg package no longer provides an xorg.conf
[01:22] <Penguin342> kjele: but the # will comment it out. Is  that right?
[01:22] <paissad-hp> trism, you know what i mean ?
[01:22] <`efeX> How can i change the default program used for starting a specific extension
[01:23] <TonyTheTiger> i have tries ndiswrapper and it says hardware not found and when i tried to activate propiety drivers the ubunut just stays at the downloading and installing phase, i have to hold power to return to normal.
[01:23] <jhb1608> what jordan?
[01:23] <Jordan_U> ubuntu284: Just remove the xorg.conf
[01:23] <`efeX> like make .txt open with x instead of x every time
[01:23] <djustice> trism: thank you!! *hug*
[01:23] <ubuntu284> Jordan_U: I assumed that when HAL was dropped in 9.10, but the newer command is not working either
[01:23] <trism> paissad-hp: yeah
[01:23] <The_reaper489> jaypro: http://tinyurl.com/yau9zqm
[01:23] <paissad-hp> trism, that mean i was wrong, that's not what i want
[01:23] <paissad-hp>  :-(
[01:23] <paissad-hp> :-)
[01:23] <Jordan_U> ubuntu284: What newer command?
[01:23] <kjele> Penguin342: Yes, you need to remove the hash (#) and set a username. The whoever to something you want
[01:23] <ray__> remove the xorg.conf?
[01:23] <jhb1608> why did the ubuntu developers do that?
[01:23] <ray__> will that remove my gui ?
[01:23] <trism> paissad-hp: yeah I think you want separate x screens, I've never done that before though
[01:23] <mouseclone> Sound issue: sound input is not playing back though speakers. I have ran though some test and I can record and hear playback from the "test your system" still do not know how to get this to just play back input though speakers, any ideas?
[01:23] <lstarnes> ray__: no, just the manual configuration
[01:23] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Upstream X did that
[01:24] <r00to3> How do i change the $root in term?
[01:24] <jaypro> The_reaper489> lol
[01:24] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: HAL is propietary, its not completely free and open-sourced
[01:24] <TonyTheTiger> so i take it my problem has no fix then, linux just isnt ready it seems.
[01:24] <jhb1608> well then how do I backup xorg?
[01:24] <djustice> trism: wait. nope. i have that one already. and a /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h. qt-copy doesnt see it tho...
[01:24] <The_reaper489> jaypro: found that when i was dumb some one did that to me
[01:24] <jhb1608> well I am going to have a videocard card soon
[01:24] <paissad-hp> i'll try xrandr
[01:24] <paissad-hp> trism,
[01:24] <jhb1608> I need to backup before installing the videocard
[01:24] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: what do see when you try sudo dhclient?
[01:24] <jaypro> The_reaper489> lol well still reading.....
[01:25] <jhb1608> but I tried all commands won't work
[01:25] <ubuntu284> Jordan_U: can sudo Xorg -configure work when jhb1608 is in the X11 session (says he needs to leave it first to regen the xorg.conf)
[01:25] <jhb1608> and thanks on flash ubuntu284
[01:25] <mortal1> hello again folks, I was wondering why flash doesn't go full screen on my 64bit system
[01:25] <Penguin342> chown_uploads=www-data?  Well now my ftp is confused
[01:25] <The_reaper489> jaypro: lol
[01:25] <jhb1608> yees ubuntu284
[01:25] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: np, working fine?
[01:25] <randomusr> hello
[01:25] <jhb1608> yes
[01:25] <ray__> so is the ati drivers from ati junk then?
[01:25] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz I see no leases in database, sleeping.
[01:26] <Kuriouz> !hi | randomusr
[01:26] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Why do you want an Xorg.conf?
[01:26] <The_reaper489> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu onto an XO laptop??
[01:26] <ray__> is that why it crashes my distro?
[01:26] <randomusr> has anyone here loaded DR17 on 9.4?
[01:26] <jhb1608> I won't do anything until I have the xorg.conf file appear in my file directory then I will do the textm ode
[01:26] <randomusr> or rather e17
[01:26] <jhb1608> jordan, because I am going to install a videocard
[01:26] <ubuntu284> Jordan_U: a sudo find / -name xorg.conf returns nothing and a cd to /etc/X11 shows no xorg.conf (a reboot will leave him crippled with GUI)
[01:26] <epinky> jhb1608: Are you logging in as root to run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command? I know you are typing sudo but boot into recovery then log in as root
[01:26] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: sudo ifconfig
[01:26] <Penguin342> It did like chown_uploads=yes
[01:26] <randomusr> !e17
[01:26] <ray__> can anyone here help me with a virtual box on ubuntu problem?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: You don't need an xorg.conf
[01:27] <jhb1608> ah good point epinky
[01:27] <The_reaper489> does linux support any Brodcom wireless stuff...??
[01:27] <ray__> I installed windows xp on my virtual box
[01:27] <ubuntu284> Jordan_U: what is the file he needs to backup with the configurations?
[01:27] <Ollonk> join #bglug
[01:27] <ray__> and enabled sound with the defauklt alsa one
[01:27] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz btw i have gone through this routine with other users on here when i was connected to the lan.
[01:27] <The_reaper489> !wireless
[01:27] <ray__> and still no sound
[01:27] <randomusr> The_reaper489: having troubles?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu284: There is none, configuration is done at boot
[01:27] <The_reaper489> randomusr: yea
[01:27] <Sneex> ubuntu284: I am not even sure this syntax will work, but you can try:  ssh -2 -4 -N -T -R remotehost:5353:localhost:53  substitute 5353 for the remote dns port
[01:27] <randomusr> The_reaper489: like?
[01:27] <Penguin342> Nope....chown_uploads=yes doesnt solve the problem.  UID is still getting set to "ftp"
[01:28] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz for ifconfig i see eth0, eth0avahi, lo, wlan0 and wlan0avahi
[01:28] <The_reaper489> randomusr: it wont even register that i have a brodcom wireless card in the system
[01:28] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: so you're not getting an ip?
[01:28] <jhb1608> jordan, well, if a nvidia video package wants to modify xorg.conf? I have to make a backup
[01:28] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz only avahi, lo have inet and ips
[01:28] <ubuntu284> Sneex: i am going to open a bug on that on the ubuntuforums website and add that suggestion there for others also (nothing on the internet how to fix the problem)
[01:28] <randomusr> The_Reaper489, what version of ubuntu?
[01:29] <The_reaper489> randomusr: 9.04
[01:29] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: The "backup" is no xorg.conf, that's what is working now and that is what will work again after you remove the nvidia drivers and card
[01:29] <ihcus> hey all! how can i configure a automatic shutdown timer in ubuntu
[01:29] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: hooking up to a router or directly to cable modem?
[01:29] <TonyTheTiger> The_reaper489 i too have broadcom, its such a nightmare, i cant connect to anything wifi or wired.
[01:29] <Ponuwon> SirStan, I prefer using GUI on a server. It's just a gateway server.
[01:29] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: By the way, you should use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to install your nvida drivers
[01:29] <randomusr> The_Reaper489, what is the marketing name of the broadcom card?
[01:29] <jhb1608> I know Jordan....
[01:29] <The_reaper489> TonyTheTiger: yea i know how you feel.
[01:29] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz right now, im not hooked to anything but i did this all before when connected and the result is the same.
[01:29] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: Try googling cron or possibly chron (not sure about the spelling
[01:29] <jhb1608> I just say in case
[01:30] <JonathanEllis> !cron
[01:30] <Ponuwon> unperson, if you find anything that can help, please let me know.
[01:30] <jhb1608> jordan, I know, just in case....
[01:30] <Penguin342> kjele: Well, that was worth a shot.  I believe I tried this before.  UID is still "ftp"
[01:30] <The_reaper489> randomusr: 32X4560 brodcom wireless
[01:30] <ubuntu284> jhb1608: since its generated upon boot, you might not be able to backup more than a temporary file
[01:30] <JonathanEllis> !cron |ihcus
[01:30] <randomusr> The_Reaper489, isn't the broadcom's name for it?
[01:30] <epinky> ihcus: cron -e
[01:30] <randomusr> ha
[01:30] <jhb1608> wow
[01:30] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Again, if anything goes wrong, uninstall the nvidia package and delete your xorg.conf
[01:31] <jhb1608> crazy ubuntu developers :/
[01:31] <JonathanEllis> !privatemessages |ihcus
[01:31] <Ponuwon> unperson or SirStan, what is the entire sudo line that would be used for downloading and installing Gnome
[01:31] <ihcus> @john can you please give me an example ...please john!
[01:31] <incluye> What do I do with a .run file?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: *Crazy XOrg developers
[01:31] <JonathanEllis> !privatemessage
[01:31] <troy_> hello
[01:31] <jhb1608> Hm...
[01:31] <troy_> who can help me please? problems with sound under karmic
 these guys dont have answers
[01:31] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: All distros are moving this way
[01:31] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: if it is a driver problem ...you looked at the broadcom website and no driver?
[01:31] <JonathanEllis> !privatemessage |ihcus
[01:31] <randomusr> incluye, run it maybe?
[01:31] <incluye> Yeah...how?
[01:32] <jhb1608> well let me guess... reinstall ubuntu again?
[01:32] <randomusr> incluye, what's it associated with?
[01:32] <jhb1608> if something happens to my videocard?
[01:32] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz i have, i downloaded a driver and installed but it doesnt work, lan doesnt work either. i even installed the ndiswrapper and that doesnt do it either.
[01:32] <TonyTheTiger> im just going mad here.
[01:32] <incluye> It's an ATI driver installer.
[01:32] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: No I cant give you an example. I havent done it myself but if I wanted to do it I would start by looking at that link ubottu sent you
[01:32] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: I never said that, I said if anything goes wrong remove the ncidia-glx package and delete your xorg.conf
[01:32] <randomusr> incluye, have you tried following ATI's documentation?
[01:32] <kjele> Penguin342: I am setting my own server now. Using Local host
[01:33] <incluye> Ehh, I'm still downloading the file.
[01:33] <Penguin342> ah, yes
[01:33] <jhb1608> dude, I don't have xorg.conf file.
[01:33] <incluye> I was only asking because I couldn't run it last time I tried.
[01:33] <incluye> Four installs ago.
[01:33] <jhb1608> since I showed ubuntu284 the proof
[01:33] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: and there was nothing in dmesg?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Installing the nvidia drivers will create one
[01:33] <incluye> So I'll just ask back when it's done downloading.
[01:33] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz apparantly with 9.10 (what i have) propietry drivers are part of the cd and i can activate them, but when i try it just hangs on the downloading stage. Im really lost.
[01:33] <jhb1608> ah!
[01:33] <jhb1608> Now I understand
[01:33] <brodeurpc> is there a way to install Server 9.10 with gnome as default instead of getting the terminal?
[01:33] <Penguin342> kjele: in my case, the server is a different machine.  Im out of ideas.  Everything I FTP to the servers www directory is ftp:www-data
[01:33] <kankan_> sebsebseb,furuno:are you there?
[01:33] <ihcus> @johathan ..oooops sorry to have sent you a private message ..i didnt know that it was rude to send you ...sorrry again ..and hey i didnt understand there is any link above ...
[01:33] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Because it needs to specify the nvidia driver
[01:33] <randomusr> incluye, Read the manual, then ask questions. this can help you much more.
[01:33] <jhb1608> I understand now.
[01:33] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz dmesg?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> kankan_: for now, not that much longer though
[01:34] <JonathanEllis> !cron |ihcus
[01:34] <kjele> Penguin342: It is anonymous you use to login?
[01:34] <SeaPhor> how do i add a repo in cli? i know how with other distros but ubuntu has me stumped,
[01:34] <jhb1608> will it detect the specific drivers and install the correct one?
[01:34] <Penguin342> kjele: No. I have a username and password
[01:34] <hkittysmoothie> Hi, everyone. I'm on Karmic and I'm having a problem with my bluetooth Wacom tablet -- It is listed and recognized as a device, but only clicking works (no cursor movement) and even then, it's only sometimes. What's wrong?
[01:34] <kjele> Penguin342: Is the usename ftp?
[01:34] <trism> SeaPhor: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:34] <Sneex> Ok, peace people :)
[01:34] <Penguin342> kjele: no, the username is something else
[01:35] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: dmesg will output system messages .. so when you try to do something and something isn't working it's a good place to look .. gnu/linux is nothing if not verbose .. :-)
[01:35] <Penguin342> kjele: and I did on a whim, try to log in using www-data as the username instead.  Couldnt connect at all that way, but I figured
[01:35] <randomusr> hkittysmoothie, I believe that is a kernel bug
[01:35] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: I dont find it particularly rude but someone else may know the answer better. Also if I am busy with you in a private message session I will probably miss the answer to my problem.
[01:35] <kankan_> sebsebseb:i have downloade kubuntu-desktop.now its giving me a message og configuring kdm and choose one xserver.what should i choose kdm or gdm?
[01:35] <hkittysmoothie> randomusr: alright, so what do I do about it?
[01:35] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz im a beginner :(
[01:36] <SeaPhor> trism, there's not a "aptitude ar xxxxxx"? just edit a file?
[01:36] <jhb1608> Jordan_U:  will it detect the specific correct nvidia driver?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kankan_: well I don't like the new GDM  2 in  Karmic,  so I would do KDM
[01:36] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: we all are ... :-)
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kankan_: that's the log in screen
[01:36] <trism> SeaPhor: yes, edit the file then sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kankan_: it's asking you which to use
[01:36] <kjele> Penguin342: Did you have to restart the sever when you change configucation files?
[01:36] <TonyTheTiger> Kuriouz yeah.
[01:36] <randomusr> hkittysmoothie, I'm not sure if it's fixed or if a work-around exists. I would start by looking at the changelog for the kernel at kernel.org
[01:36] <kankan_> sebsebseb:yes.
[01:36] <SeaPhor> ok,,, Thanks trism
[01:36] <JonnyDarcko> :)
[01:36] <Jordan_U> jhb1608: Yes, only one version can be installed at a time and Hardware Drivers chooses the right one
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kankan_: as for xserver uhmm what does it say exactly?
[01:37] <Penguin342> kjele: whenever I change the vsftpd conf file, I do restart vsftpd
[01:37] <hkittysmoothie> randomusr: alright, thanks
[01:37] <kankan_> sebsebseb:if i choose gdm or kdm,can i change it later?
[01:37] <TonyTheTiger> Linux really sucks man, its nothing but a toy for people who just hate windows, but at least windows works and allows you to get on with things.
[01:37] <sebsebseb> kankan_: yes
[01:37] <jhb1608> ok making sure, I don't want the kernel panic or anything that happens when it detects the wrong one, Jordan_U
[01:37] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger: are you related to Bill ?
[01:37] <kankan_> default display driver:kdm or gdm
[01:37] <ubuntu284> TonyTheTiger: sorry to hear you are having bad luck
[01:37] <thegreyspot> How do you mount a FTP drive in ubuntu?
[01:37] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: I disagree on that part ... i like the control ..
[01:37] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr no, just a normal user who wants to get on with work.
[01:38] <kankan_> sebsebseb:how can i change it later ,choose between kdm or gdm?
[01:38] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: Im afraid you are unlikely to inspire people to help you if you flame. Some of us find linux enables us to do things we couldnt do with windows.
[01:38] <ubuntu284> thegreyspot: Places --> Connect to Server --> FTP
[01:38] <OzFalcon> thegreyspot, Is the FTP server local?
[01:38] <Dasda> TonyTheTiger: whaat cant u do that u were doing in windows?
[01:38] <brodeurpc> TonyTheTiger: you can get on with work faster and safer with linux
[01:38] <Kuriouz> TonyTheTiger: i have Dell mini 9 and install Ubuntu Netbook Remix .. worked withtout a problem ...
[01:38] <sebsebseb> kankan_: if you remove  one of them and re install, it will ask again which to use, there is probably a better way though to change which one it's using
[01:38] <TonyTheTiger> JonathanEllis well its not like i was being swamped with help in the first place.
[01:38] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, I've found that linux is a great alternative for me. Plus I like that it rarely breaks on it's own
[01:38] <Dasda> TonyTheTiger: im new to linux too (1month), u just might be frustrated cause its new to you
[01:39] <Penguin342> TonyTheTiger: To be honest, despite that Im aggravated with my ftp ownership issue, I still find that *nix, while aggravating at times, stilll lets me be free.
[01:39] <kjele> Penguin342: When I login I get to my home folder
[01:39] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr i have never used linux where i didnt spend days if not months to fix it
[01:39] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, what are you trying to do that's not working?
[01:39] <ihcus> @jonathan ...you are a good guy! thanks for your help again ...can you please tell me the command for shutdown ...is it the command "shutdown"?
[01:39] <kjele> Penguin342: And ofcourse everything I uploaded is my username
[01:39] <Penguin342> kjele: Yeah, I set vsftpd to have the directory be /var/www
[01:39] <Dasda> TonyTheTiger: u seem like you wanna keep on whining without telling us what the problem is
[01:40] <Blues-Man> hi guys, I found many other guys with sound issue while upgrading from jaunty to karmic with intel cards but I haven't found the solution
[01:40] <TonyTheTiger> Dasda i have been using linux for more than a year. trust me, it doesnt get better.
[01:40] <ubuntu284> ihcus: sudo shutdown will exit ubuntu while sudo poweroff will poweroff the machine
[01:40] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger; Days and months fixing linux = user error. No offense
[01:40] <Blues-Man> can you link me the solution?
[01:40] <Blues-Man> the problem is alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[01:40] <brodeurpc> TonyTheTiger: way too many viruses out there that attack Windows im done with Windows for good
[01:40] <Dasda> TonyTheTiger: what can't you do that u can on windows?
[01:40] <Dasda> ask in here
[01:40] <Jordan_U> !offtopic
[01:40] <Dasda> im sure people will help you
[01:40] <brodeurpc> TonyTheTiger: just take the time to learn Linux you'll like it
[01:40] <jhb1608> I like ubuntu anyways
[01:40] <TonyTheTiger> i can for 1 connect with ethernet cable and get onto the internet.
[01:40] <ubuntu284> any ideas on how to input a dns server with a non-port 53? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8245174#post8245174
[01:41] <TonyTheTiger> i can wifi
[01:41] <TonyTheTiger> none seems to work with ubuntu.
[01:41] <OzFalcon> TonyTheTiger, 9.10 is a failure for some people. Use 9.04 if 9.10 is giving you grief. (I have to). And Wait till 10.04 lts comes out.
[01:41] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: We are all users here. None of us is getting paid to help. Most of us came in here to get help with our own issues. If we dont know the answer to your problem thats unfortunate but we are all doing the best we can. Help in irc is on a voluntary basis. There are paid support options available just like with microsoft. If you ask for help in ##windows you also have to state your problem in a precise way and if noone in the channel knows h
[01:41] <kete> I'm having trouble accessing a Windows share.
[01:41] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger: Version of linux and the name of your wireless card?
[01:41] <sblunix> !wifi | TonyTheTiger
[01:41] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: What were your issues with 9.10?
[01:41] <ihcus> @ jonathan ...hey how do i exit a crontab command... it opened a line for editing on the terminal ...
[01:41] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: I apologise to you for everyone who is denying the reality of your problem but this isn't a place to vent, it's for support.
[01:41] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: Also were they  with a clean install?
[01:41] <trism> TonyTheTiger: wifi is still sketchy, but it is getting better (Karmic is the first release where my wireless card finally worked automatically after I installed, no ndiswrapper)
[01:42] <Dasda> my internet worked fine on install including wifi
[01:42] <TonyTheTiger> i dont even care for wifi, but ethernet should work bare minimum
[01:42] <JonathanEllis> TonyTheTiger: I myself am finding 9.10 doesnt work for me so I am going back to 8.04 as I have an old PC. For what its worth 8.04 installed with no problems whatsoever for me.
[01:42] <kjele> Penguin342: What if you redirect to ~/www ?
[01:42] <zenit> Penguin342: one of solving this, which I know works is by using groups. Set the directory to be setgid, chmod 2775 /var/www. Create a group of webusers, and make sure that www-data and the users you want to give access are members of this group. Uploaded files will then still have their original owner, but the group will be set to the one you specify.
[01:42] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, if you want help, just ask me
[01:42] <TonyTheTiger> i have 9.10 and it doesnt work and i was on 9.04 before and the situation was the same.
[01:42] <kankan_> sebsebseb:i have selected gdm.
[01:42] <Dasda> my wifi got installed automatically on linux, on windows i always had to go get the drivers for my laptop built in card
[01:42] <sebsebseb> TonyTheTiger: how about 8.10?  support runs out when 10.04 comes out or around then I think on the desktop
[01:42] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, Name of your wireless card or NIC?
[01:43] <Penguin342> zenit: and if I did it this way, when I ls -al the www directory, would uploaded files go to www-data:www-data?
[01:43] <ubuntu284> Dasda: you can try a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart or install another network manager, such as sudo apt-get install wicd
[01:43] <TonyTheTiger> broadcom 5751 ethernet, broadcom bcm4306 wifi
[01:43] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: Sorry I have never used cron so Im sorry I cant help. The limit of my knowledge was getting ubottu to pointin you to the link
[01:43] <mouseclone> how do you restart pulseaudio
[01:43] <sebsebseb> TonyTheTiger: oh wrong one
[01:43] <Dasda> ubuntu284: myne works fine lol. I was trying to tell TonyTheTiger
[01:43] <sebsebseb> JonathanEllis: see above that was for you
[01:43] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, what are their commercial names?
[01:43] <zenit> Penguin342: no, they will keep their original owner but the group will be set to the group that owns the directory.
[01:43] <JonathanEllis> ihcus: Sorry I have never used cron so I dont know. The limit of my knowledge was getting ubottu to point you in the right direction.
[01:44] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr commercial names?
[01:44] <erebus> Im a bit new to ubuntu, I need to add "auto" to my fstab for my cdrom and I try to bring it up in gedit, it comes up as read only even when I am privileged. ANy way to get it to let me manually ediot the fstab?
[01:44] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Clean install. Old system. (Bios sees 500gb as 136gb).  Grub2 Failure. (Workaround with ext2 /boot) Video card issues. Banshee refused to play videos. xine Crashing when switching window/fullscreen. Under xubuntu - Change screen res disables login. They are the main issues.
[01:44] <randomusr> oh boy
[01:44] <djzn> any progress on the EXT4 data loss bug?
[01:44] <Penguin342> zenit: Yeah, that might not work. I think some of the cms tools rely on files being www-data:www-data
[01:44] <randomusr> djzn, negative
[01:44] <JonathanEllis> sebsebseb: You mean from ihcus?
[01:44] <Aaron49> anyone else having trouble on the dell inspirion mini 10 with UNR 9.10?
[01:44] <incluye> Okay, it works now.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> JonathanEllis: no when I messaged  TonyTheTiger
[01:44] <djzn> randomusr: I just made my box today, but I am seriously thinking about redoing with ext3
[01:44] <zenit> Penguin342: No, as long as the group is given the correct rights it does not matter
[01:44] <incluye> "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[01:44] <LuYu> has anybody else had gdm become unable to start X after recent updates (9.04)?
[01:44] <LuYu> appears to be hosed on two of my systems
[01:44] <incluye> How do I use it?
[01:44] <incluye> Restart?
[01:45] <kankan_> how to install all the codecs?
[01:45] <thegreyspot> You see, im trying to add my
[01:45] <zenit> Penguin342: as long as www-data is a member of this group
[01:45] <ODST> whats a command to reinstall firefox 3.5 ?
[01:45] <randomusr> djzn, I would Agree. I didn't bother to upgrade
[01:45] <sebsebseb> kankan_: ok well  that's what you had before
[01:45] <LuYu> i havent had a chane to test xdm yet
[01:45] <LuYu> but startx works fine
[01:45] <sebsebseb> kankan_: gdm  is the default for Ubuntu
[01:45] <djzn> randomusr: how come the Fedora guys did not have this
[01:45] <sebsebseb> kankan_: kubuntu gets kdm by default instead
[01:45] <OzFalcon> I havn't encountered the ext4 bug. And was moving 95gb of mp3's and 40gb of 700-1.4gb files around. (On an OLD 933mhz machine)
[01:45] <randomusr> djzn, um, ask them?
[01:45] <thegreyspot> You see im trying to stream my music from an ftp server using banshee and mounting the drive. Do you have any ideas on how i can do that?
[01:45] <TonyTheTiger> whoever said go to 8.10, whats to say that doesnt have the same problem? usually newer versions improve not mess up.
[01:45] <zenit> Penguin342: however, I would still look into it a bit more if vsftpd can change the ownership on uploaded files, but it seems as you have looked into it already.
[01:45] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, but you can ping the router via ethernet when set static IP, did you try what we sugested and use that same connection on a windows box to look at the network setup?
[01:46] <djzn> the EXT4 data loss  bug really upset me
[01:46] <Penguin342> zenit: Yeah. I have.  Its been driving me crazy
[01:46] <kjele> zenit: It can only change if the uploader is anonymous
[01:46] <sebsebseb> TonyTheTiger: that was a mistake I  meant to message the one that said they would go back  to 8.04
[01:46] <zenit> kjele: exactly
[01:46] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, what motherboard are you using, and what wifi card do you have?
[01:46] <TonyTheTiger> SeaPhor yes, it works with windows :(
[01:46] <randomusr> like from which vendors?
[01:46] <Penguin342> so if i chmod 2775 /var/www do I need to do it recursively (-R) since I might write to subfolders under var/www
[01:46] <MaxJizzy> where do i find scroll functionality to the mouse?
[01:46] <MaxJizzy> settings
[01:46] <MaxJizzy> please
[01:47] <OzFalcon> ext4 bug WAS HIT when creating an external HD  ext4 partition. Going into RO mode. Journal errors. The Works.
[01:47] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: I am not sure what the problem with your ethernet is, but for your wireless you need the firmware for your card
[01:47] <Penguin342> join #vsftpd
[01:47] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr I dont know what motherboard but the wifi is broadcom bcm4306 and the ethernet adapter is bcm5751
[01:47] <JonathanEllis> sebsebseb: You mean 8.10? Cant get that to work on my old Dell either. 8.04 was the last release that worked first time for me and I still love it. Just experimenting with newer releases. When I have time in the next weeks I will try to report the bug that is killing my graphics in all later releases.
[01:47] <OzFalcon> ext4 HIT on 9.04 system. NOT 9.10.
[01:47] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, did you take down all the network info?? that was the point, your wired NIC is working, you dont have it setup correctly
[01:47] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U i have installed many a drivers to see, nothing works.
[01:47] <ubuntu284> MaxJizzy: System --> Preferences --> Mouse --> Touchpad tab (last tab)
[01:47] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, hold please
[01:47] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: I haven't clean installed the final yet, but  I have been testing since  alpha 4, and oh the amount of Ext4 issues.   wanting to chkdsk everytime  this install boots up and such
[01:47] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Have you tired b43-fwcutter ?
[01:47] <djzn> OzFalcon: the EXT4 massive data loss bug is serious... I am worried....
[01:48] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U yes.
[01:48] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: fixing journals as well yep
[01:48] <ubuntu284> any ideas on how to input a dns server with a non-port 53? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8245174#post8245174
[01:48] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Do you have a wlan0 interface / did you after using fwcutter?
[01:48] <thegreyspot> Ubuntu doesnt seem to bring a open window to the front always. Like if i open terminal i have to click on it first before i can type in it. Is that normal?
[01:48] <darrend> do I *need* pulseaudio?  I just solved about half a dozen major annoyances with video and sound apps by killing my pulseaudio processes
[01:48] <OzFalcon> Yeah. DONT use ext4 on 9.04 systems for sure. But I havn't had any ext4 issues on a 9.10 system. But 9.10 had other issues.
[01:49] <sebsebseb> djzn: as far as I know that bug is not in 9.04's optional  Ext4 support,  but that's not perfectly stable since the kernel they  have and such
[01:49] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, is this a desktop or laptop?
[01:49] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: Ext4 is the default for clean installs for 9.10
[01:49] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U honestly i dont know if i have the cutter working though. I know i did install it, but right now the loaded driver is ndiswrapper. according lshw
[01:49] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr its a laptop without cd drive.
[01:49] <djzn> i have WAITED this long to get EXT4, but I see that it's still not mature enough as EXT3.....
[01:49] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Yeah. I didn't have any issues with ext4 on a clean 9.10 install.
[01:50] <Bookman> How do I redirect the output of a command, in terminal, to my printer.  > lpr doesn't seem to do anything.
[01:50] <djzn> another thing is... EXT3, and EXT4... are they visually noticeable in performance?
[01:50] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, what model is it?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: ,but the notes said about a bug, when  writing to  a file that is over 512MB or something and then  it  maybe getting currupted for a clean install
[01:50] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Well the b43-fwcutter package will only work if you are connected to the internet when you install it ( it's a legal problem, it can't legally be done any other way unfortunately )
[01:50] <TonyTheTiger> latitude d410
[01:50] <zenit> Penguin342: you probably want to seg the segid bit on directories only, find /var/www -type d | xargs g+s or something like that. Make sure that the you restart apache and those services that you make member of this group though.
[01:50] <sebsebseb> !notes |  OzFalcon  djzn
[01:50] <drakco> nas
[01:50] <drakco> xd
[01:50] <zenit> login and logout if this is for your own user, etc.
[01:50] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U that might explain why it did nothing after install, and also why when i tried to activate propietry drivers it kept freezing
[01:51] <djzn> I have hundreds of 512+MB Files... I have CD images!
[01:51] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Yes. I read the notes. It was a test install (All data safe on the network). But "I" didn't have any issues. I was probably lucky.
[01:51] <Penguin342> zenit: and how do I alter the uids into groups using gnome?  User Settings only lets me connect machine logins to a group, but not uid's to a group
[01:51] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, does the wireless card detach from the laptop?
[01:51] <slythfox2> Is there any way to automatically connect to a windows share upon login without using sudo?
[01:51] <sebsebseb> djzn: well some people apparnatlly have had what I said or whatever the notes were saying
[01:52] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: I can give you a copy of the firmware iteself that you can put into /lib/firmware
[01:52] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Infact. I initally installed with ext3. Because I was suspect. But then tested clean with ext4 as well.
[01:52] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr im not sure, i dont think it can.
[01:52] <zenit> Penguin342: I have no idea, I do not use gnome. You can add a user to a group by using: adduser <user> <group>
[01:52] <djzn> a major bug like this featuring the RELEASE NOTES is a show stopper for sure
[01:52] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon:   djzn XFS  gets  the proper Ext4 advantages also apparnatlly.  fast boot up and such
[01:52] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Do you know what revision of bcm4306 your card is ( 1, 2, or 3 ) ?
[01:53] <paissad-hp> i would like to know if i really need to add a new display AND a new device AND a new screen to xorg.conf in order to have the same display ontot my monitor and lcd tv screen
[01:53] <paissad-hp> http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/howto/Set+Up+Dual+Monitors+-+xorg.conf
[01:53] <paissad-hp> as show above
[01:53] <paissad-hp> shown*
[01:53] <kankan_> sebsebseb:i have installed gstreamer bad and ugly.should iinstall good packages also?
[01:53] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U its rev 03
[01:53] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Yes and there is another.......
[01:53] <sebsebseb> kankan_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  that should take care of MP3's, AVI, Flash, Java, and some other things
[01:54] <kankan_> sebsebseb:what should be the command to install all the gstreamer codecs?
[01:54] <Penguin342> zenit: I just added ftp to group www-data
[01:54] <sebsebseb> kankan_: the one I just gave will  sort out gstreamer for you
[01:54] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U what do you mean you can give me the firmware, how would i get it to work without internet?
[01:54] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: Ok, then unpack this to /lib/firmware http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43karmic.tar
[01:54] <LuYu> does anybody know about these gdm problems?  it appears to be the same thing that caused the distribution upgrade to fail
[01:54] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, I noticed installing ubuntu-restricted-extras then wanted to remove DeVeDe......
[01:54] <OzFalcon> Anyoy.
[01:54] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: what's that?
[01:54] <djzn> can anyone here FIGURE out what kind of codec some internet video needs to be feeded - given the URL ?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: when I do the final I am going to test a bit with Ext3 first then do Ext4 for a proper install
[01:55] <Jordan_U> TonyTheTiger: The reason that the package needs to download from the internet is that it's technically not legal for anyone but broadcom to distribute the firmware, and they only distribute it within their windows drive, hence the "cutter". I am cheating :)
[01:55] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, Yeah. Best to be safe. Infact I would keep an external HD backup of all your stuff in ext3.
[01:56] <TonyTheTiger> right, so there is no way i can have it already...
[01:56] <Bookman> how do I find the name of my usb laser printer so that I can redirect output to it?
[01:56] <kankan_> sebsebseb:thanks for all your help.
[01:56] <djzn> I think is wise to make A EXT3 partition and then move onto ext4 in Lucid Lynx
[01:57] <macisp2000> I am playing with ubuntu 9.10 and would like to install the newest kubuntu, how can I do this?  Thanks.
[01:57] <JonathanEllis> djzn: Is ext4 that unstable then?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: Ubuntu has been  getting better in some ways  and worse in others,  and things I know and care about,  if it continues like this  with 10.04 as well,  I will  seriously start considering about which distro to put on instead onto my hard disk and to use.
[01:57] <epinky> Bookman: lsusb  ?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: since 8.04 I  was going to put
[01:57] <OzFalcon> I consider 9.10 to be beta. (As it acutaly is). If it's broke use previous.
[01:57] <scunizi> macisp2000: do you already have another os installed on your computer?
[01:57] <HowardtheDuck> hey.  Can anyone tell me how I'd hook up my Windows partition's C:\ drive into Wine on my Ubuntu partition?
[01:57] <macisp2000> nope
[01:57] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, if you lspci, does it see your nic?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: and considering I meant to put thinking
[01:57] <djzn> don't know.... if that is stable.. but to FEATURE as a major bug on release notes kinds of worries me
[01:58] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: no I didn't nevermind
[01:58] <scunizi> macisp2000: sorry .. you have just ubuntu installed?
[01:58] <macisp2000> isn't there some sort of apt-get command or something?
[01:58] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr thats what i used to identify that they are broadcom
[01:58] <macisp2000> just ubuntu installed
[01:58] <scunizi> macisp2000: yes.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, You should try Fedora. I run it on another lappy. It's actualy much better pollished. Just installing the "restricted" stuff isn't as point and click like Ubu.
[01:58] <sebsebseb> JonathanEllis: I guess Ext4 is still a little dodgy, even though now it is the default for clean 9.10 installs
[01:58] <macisp2000> do I need to add a repository or something first?
[01:59] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, this may help with the wired card 5751
[01:59] <randomusr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984675
[01:59] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, And Fedora 12 is out soon.
[01:59] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: I started with Fedora Core 2 and 4 and no net,  in 2004 and 5.  since silly wireless device.  I was actsaully going to switch to Fedora 11 from 9.04, but  it woudn't like my partition set up.
[01:59] <randomusr> That's geared toward 8.10 but I think it will be usefaul
[01:59] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon:  the installer gave me an error said it was probably a bug, and to report it
[01:59] <TonyTheTiger> Jordan_U i already have a b43 folder in /lib/firmware :s
[01:59] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, for 12?
[01:59] <sebsebseb> OzFalcon: when I did a custom set up, and we are off topic now
[01:59] <andresj> !torrents
[01:59] <sebsebseb> for 11
[01:59] <Bookman> epinky: nothing useful there to use in redirection.  Like command > lpr -P xxxxxx
[01:59] <OzFalcon> sebsebseb, yes. ;-)
[02:00] <Ubuntu1> hey
[02:00] <Ubuntu1> I need to recover all my data and i cant acces to my ubuntu
[02:00] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr i have already looked at that thread and followed the instructions.
[02:01] <HowardtheDuck> hey.  Can anyone tell me how I'd hook up my Windows partition's C:\ drive into Wine on my Ubuntu partition?
[02:01] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, what happened at the end?  Do you have multiple software trying to access the card?
[02:01] <tapas> ugh. i installed the new ubuntu..
[02:01] <tapas> and sound is muted
[02:02] <TonyTheTiger> randomusr i have tried so many fix's and neither properly installed (i am a beginner) so its very likely that may be an issue.
[02:02] <HowardtheDuck> tapas:  so?  unmute it then
[02:02] <tapas> and alsamixer reports that there's no ctl device..
[02:02] <linxeh> HowardtheDuck: did you try googling for an answer to your question ?
[02:02] <tapas> which is a pity, since it worked great in the previous ubuntu release
[02:02] <randomusr> TonyTheTiger, shaking my head
[02:02] <TonyTheTiger> my network manage just permenantly says disconnected for both wired and wireless.
[02:02] <Ashfire908> Hi, got a couple questions. One, is it ok (on my netbook) to have a swap partition on a SSD? Or will it not cause that much wear and tear on the drive?
[02:02] <tapas> i suspect that maybe pulseaudio does some weird things
[02:02] <kbp> Does anyone know how to disable auto audio-review when mouse cursor is on a music file?
[02:03] <tapas> how can i tell my gnome session to not start it?