[12:00] <micon> DaBlade, were in the same boat.. no one will help us
[12:00] <flodine> why
[12:00] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, what app are you tring to install, sorry I just joined
[12:00] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Transcode
[12:00] <lampshade> micon, what's the problem?  I might be able to
[12:00] <DaBlade> micon: indeed
[12:00] <psychonate> What permissions do I need to put on a mount point so that, when I mount a drive there, my normal user will have full permissions on all of the files/dirs on that drive?
[12:00] <[blue] > kent: because if i use lsusb, i have 2 devices.. my usb mouse and something called microdia.
[12:00] <micon> lampshade, when im trying to install ubuntu, after i hit enter at the boot screen, it says a few lines, then goes to an all black screen
[12:00] <micon> with a bunch of stuff
[12:00] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: It's a core dependency of perl-video-dvdrip(dvd::rip)
[12:00] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, your trying to get dvdrip installed ?
[12:01] <DaBlade> yup
[12:01] <ryman> something is wrong with firefox
[12:01] <ryman> it keeps crashing
[12:01] <[blue] > kent: that should be the webcam
[12:01] <micon> and at the bottom is says <............DSDT... initrd  not found
[12:01] <LinuxJones> DaBlade, as far as I can remember it has been broken for about 4 months :(
[12:01] <lampshade> psychonate, if you feel like it, you could just chmod 777 it
[12:01] <flodine> lampshade why not
[12:01] <DaBlade> It worked fine on Fedora :(
[12:02] <lampshade> flodine, why not what?  run fluxbox now?  Cause I'm ahppy with gnome so far.  That's all
[12:02] <micon> lampshade, any ideas?
[12:02] <makiley> rver ww.irc-hispano.org
[12:02] <klexys> does anyone know how to mount an scsi drive (fs: ntfs) at startup?
[12:02] <lampshade> micon, does the livecd do the same thing, do you happen to know?
[12:02] <micon> lampshade, no i dont know.
[12:02] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  it's just the Debian packages in Mirillate repos
[12:02] <micon> but i dont have the connection to download the livecd.
[12:03] <micon> i had my friend burn me a install cd from the website
[12:03] <psychonate> lampshade, I still can't create files in some of the directories. I think the permissions are a bit messed up because I was using this drive on another box.
[12:03] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Is there any way whatsoever to get it installed?
[12:03] <psychonate> lampshade, Should I try to chown the directories first?
[12:03] <DaBlade> I gotta get transcode in. I mean, if it works on the king of dependencies, Fedora, it must work on Kubuntu
[12:03] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  let me ss if I can find another repo for you
[12:04] <DaBlade> okay thanks :)
[12:04] <LinuxJones> see*
[12:04] <dead^^> Gatton: fcuk, I must sound annoying, but I tried to install w32codecs on command dpkg -i w32codecs.deb, but my Totem-player just freezes and says later on that "you must install corrcect plugins" or something like that :P. I'm sorry, I really must get on you're nerves right now, but could you guide me how to install the plugins?
[12:05] <lampshade> psychonate, well chmod 777 should give everyone all permissions.  It is the least secure but the most useful when being quick and dirty with permissions.  What may be happening is that the lower folders, etc aren't getting the correct perms.  I would do an ls -l in the directory and see what the perms are for the files  see if you have rw (read and write) where it needs to be
[12:05] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  check out this link from apt-get.org >> http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=dvdrip&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all
[12:05] <DaBlade> dead^^, I can help you out
[12:05] <DaBlade> but first do apt-get install alien
[12:05] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface
[12:06] <psychonate> lampshade, the lower dirs are drwxrwxr-x, but if I chown them, it works alright after that. RIght now the owner and group are 501/501
[12:06] <dead^^> DaBlade: ok
[12:06] <BigJG> there is a gui interface for pure-ftp?
[12:06] <BigJG> Aladdin: there is a gui interface fore pure-ftp?
[12:06] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  btw, they are not Ubuntu packages but might work ok for you :)
[12:06] <BigJG> Aladdin: yea this one is a bit confusing
[12:07] <Aladdin> yep
[12:07] <DaBlade> dead^^, then do alien --to-deb on the packages here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
[12:07] <DaBlade> Thanks, LinuxJones :D
[12:07] <Aladdin> BigJG, yep
[12:07] <Aladdin> doesn't work home :(
[12:07] <svart> How do i play movies with the live cd?
[12:08] <DaBlade> dead^^: Those w32codecs packages work
[12:08] <DaBlade> svart, are you norwegian?
[12:08] <svart> nope.. swedish
[12:08] <[blue] > hmm
[12:08] <DaBlade> Figured. Svart means black in norwegian too ;)
[12:08] <svart> sure does..
[12:08] <Aladdin> http server works good tought, I got Mambo installed (php portal, and a cool one)
[12:08] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: But I need Transcode first. It's the main dep
[12:08] <xiaogil> I have a local web server on a wifi laptop, a friend of mine would to log on it without going through the internet (he has a wifi laptop too). Is that possible with Ubuntu ?
[12:09] <BigJG> Aladdin: mambo is the server or a portal for it
[12:09] <Aladdin> BigJG, BigJG, oh my god bg I went trought that.  that's why I fellback on prure-ftpd gui nterface
[12:09] <Aladdin> it's a portal
[12:09] <[blue] > the usb webcam module is loaded but i dont have /dev/v4l2 entry
[12:09] <sobersabre> has anybody had problems with skype ( echo/delay effects ) ?
[12:09] <BigJG> Aladdin: you using apache for the server then?
[12:09] <Aladdin> server is genie-server.redirectme.neet
[12:09] <[blue] > does anyonw know how to fix that ?
[12:09] <Aladdin> server is genie-server.redirectme.net
[12:09] <sobersabre> both skypers use headset
[12:09] <Aladdin> BigJG, server is genie-server.redirectme.net
[12:09] <dead^^> DaBlade: thanks. I'll try it and if it doesn't work, I'll hang myself to ceiling =). I'm kinda ashamed to ask such dumb questions on here. and my english at least terrible =)
[12:10] <LinuxJones> DaBlade,  if you add one of those repos to your /etc/apt/sources.lst it should have a working transcode included as a dependency.
[12:10] <sobersabre> one is windows, other linux <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:10] <svart> anyway.. i try to load a movie from my hardrive but i get an "Unknown error" message from Totem
[12:10] <mdke> anyone used multi-aterm? i'm interested in finding a good xterminal which is fast and hopefully has tab support too. Anyone help me out?
[12:10] <lampshade> svart, you might not have the correct codecs, did you install the codecs already?
[12:10] <ryman> how do I upgrade to the newest version of FireFox ? My firefox keeps crashing for no reason
[12:11] <DaBlade> dead^^: Actually, you were lucky I was here. (shameless of me to say lol). I was using Fedora Core before I switched here. those are packs for it
[12:11] <svart> how do i install codecs when running from livecd?
[12:11] <DaBlade> LinuxJones: Thanks
[12:11] <Aladdin> BigJG, apache 2 prefork
[12:11] <Aladdin> with php and sql enabled
[12:12] <Aladdin> BigJG, with php and sql enabled
[12:12] <Aladdin> ubuntu default :o)
[12:12] <Aladdin> BigJG, ubuntu default
[12:13] <Aladdin> BigJG, and yeah I know it's in french :)
[12:13] <sbcl3_> goldfish: did you ever find out anything?
[12:13] <BigJG> lol
[12:13] <Aladdin> BigJG, french canadian, quebec, canada
[12:14] <dabaSlon> wionnipeg
[12:14] <Dreamer3> ok, i have modprobed lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't know where to go from there?
[12:14] <goldfish> sbcl3_: nope, the command to do that is uname, but i dont think u can specify it to work for a certain directory, i think that works for ALL files you create.
[12:14] <goldfish> sbcl3_: prolly best to run the chmod -R command.
[12:14] <BigJG> Aladdin:  it looks like with pure-ftpd it still requires a real user to be created for virtual user permissions
[12:15] <goldfish> sbcl3_: maybe you could set up a cron job to execute the chmod command on the directory for you
[12:15] <sbcl3_> goldfish: isn't that what i did?
[12:15] <goldfish> yep
[12:15] <Jimmothy> i'm having a problem. i have BMP and it refuses to be killed in the process manager. it's listed as beep-media-play but has no path.
[12:15] <Aladdin> BigJG, ok let'me check
[12:15] <sbcl3_> linus really needs to fix that...
[12:15] <goldfish> sbcl3_: i thought u wanted it for new folders created it in the directory?
[12:15] <BigJG> Aladdin: its giving me errors when i try to manage users in the gui
[12:16] <sbcl3_> yes
[12:16] <goldfish> hehe
[12:16] <sbcl3_> i want to keep my files in /sbcl3
[12:16] <lampshade> psychonate, I didn't see others with write permission.  That's probably why.  Once you chown it to say user then user is the owner and owner has rwx permissions according to what you listed.  See if a chmod a+w  file let's you mod that file, save it, etc
[12:16] <Aladdin> BigJG, me too.... can't find configuration file
[12:16] <sbcl3_> because /home/sbcl3 has lots of hidden folders i like to configure
[12:16] <Dreamer3> anyone is there any quick ubuntu ltmodem how-to?
[12:16] <goldfish> Dreamer3: ubuntuguide.org ?
[12:17] <Dreamer3> goldfish: doesn't seem to be lt_modem info there
[12:17] <Aladdin> BigJG, me too.... and PureFTPD not running!
[12:17] <sbcl3_> goldfish: as i'm the owner it seems to work fine...
[12:17] <Aladdin> BigJG, and it's not :o(
[12:17] <goldfish> sbcl3_: I thought you meant, that each time you created a folder in that directory you wanted it to have a certain permission.
[12:18] <goldfish> ok, i think i should go to bed.
[12:18] <BigJG> Aladdin: was that website yours?
[12:18] <goldfish> I'm confising things :/
[12:18] <goldfish> *confusing
[12:18] <psychonate> lampshade, I just did a 'chown -R psychonate;psychonate' to get it working alright, but I think a chmod a+w probably would've worked too
[12:18] <psychonate> lampshade, I think the user and group were foreign anyway, so it was nice to change them
[12:18] <Aladdin> BigJG, genie-server.redirectme.net?  yeah
[12:18] <Aladdin> why?
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, why?
[12:19] <dabaSlon> Jimmothy: do a killall bmp if that is the process name in a terminal
[12:19] <BigJG> Aladdin: looking good :) if only i could read it :D
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, !!!!!!
[12:19] <BigJG> Aladdin: lol
[12:19] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. hehe freench... I know. sorry
[12:20] <Jimmothy> dabaSlon: it isn';t working. the process has no path
[12:20] <dabaSlon> just a sec, I happen to have one bmp running.
[12:20] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles :o)
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, oh.. well register.. I will translate your articles personnaly :o)
[12:21] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:21] <Dreamer3> i've modprobed the lt_modem and lt_serial, but i don't think there is a device in /dev, am i missing something?
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: lmao
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: ill register
[12:21] <chris__> Dreamer3, is ur modem a winmodem?
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: and http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=35
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, lmao?
[12:21] <Dreamer3> chris__: yes, it's supported with the lt_modem driver
[12:21] <chris__> o
[12:21] <BigJG> Aladdin: means i am happy
[12:21] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:21] <Dreamer3> chris__: i modprobed it find (dmesg), but don't know how to get wvdial to talk to it
[12:21] <Aladdin> BigJG, k :o)
[12:22] <Aladdin> BigJG, that's your home?: http://geekspeek.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=35
[12:22] <ghais> hello guys, how do i figure what parameter to pass to mplayer to select video output device?
[12:22] <lampshade> pdf's open sooo much faster on linux.  It always blows my mind
[12:22] <dabaSlon> Jimmothy: killall beep-media-play
[12:22] <chris__> 4 my question, i just want to echo \a or whatever... how do i do this
[12:22] <BigJG> Aladdin: no, it is a tutorial for pure-ftpd
[12:22] <BigJG> Aladdin: im reading it now
[12:22] <svart> does anyone have any ideas as to how i migth play movies using totem on the livecd?
[12:23] <Aladdin> oh! lol
[12:23] <dabaSlon> ghais: I dont, but man mplayer does, if you feel like reading.
[12:23] <ghais> the thing is what ever i pass, mplayer fails to open
[12:23] <mdke> ghais, -vo i think
[12:23] <mdke> wb ogra
[12:23] <ghais> dabaSlon: i did -vo but i need to specify a device
[12:23] <lampshade> svart, you can probably only play movies that don't use any fancy codecs.  movies that need divx, etc will require you to install those codecs which I don't know exactly how you do with the livecd.  or if it is possible
[12:23] <mdke> ghais, xv is good
[12:23] <ogra> hey mdke
[12:23] <svart> damn..
[12:23] <mdke> y0
[12:23] <ghais> dabaSlon: and which ever one i pass the system fails to open
[12:24] <mdke> ghais, check the error and google it
[12:24] <ghais> mdke: i will do that
[12:25] <svart> i cant play mp3s either.. Is the LiveCD really that crippled?
[12:25] <svart> Musicplayer says: "No module for format: mp3"
[12:25] <mdke> svart, it doesn't have mp3 support
[12:26] <mdke> svart, Ubuntu in general does not ship with mp3 support
[12:26] <k31th> e
[12:26] <svart> true.. that fraunhofer something..
[12:27] <k31th> ]
[12:27] <svart> and i cant to connect to the repositories..
[12:27] <chris__> how does one make bash ring the bell
[12:27] <ben__> Is there any graphical utility in Ubuntu to control which services are active in their respective runlevels?
[12:27] <mdke> svart, but if you install Ubuntu you can get mp3 support yourself
[12:27] <svart> and i cant to connect to the repositories.. using Synaptic...
[12:28] <mdke> svart, using the live cd?
[12:28] <svart> yepp
[12:28] <mdke> Be BaCk LaTeR
[12:28] <Aladdin> BigJG, OK well since you're a new frind.  My MSN thing is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please feel free to greet!
[12:28] <svart> of course.. this is the warty livecd..
[12:29] <k31th> right with MySQL if someone opens a record, is that record locked by the first person that opens it , so that others cant write to it at the same time as you ?
[12:29] <Aladdin> BigJG, I will fallback on proftpd.  It's got to have a config file preconfigured soemwhere!
[12:29] <svart> has the archive been renamed to hoary and warty been taken offline.. Im connecting to archive.ubuntu.com/warty or something like that..
[12:30] <Aladdin> BigJG, Take care. Aladdin  (poof!)
[12:30] <BigJG> Aladdin: yea these are pretty confusing at first, im going to stick w/ pure for a bit and see what happens
[12:30] <BigJG> Aladdin: i added you to msn so hope u see it
[12:30] <goldfish> lol
[12:30] <ryman> can someone help me with install firefox 1.0.3 ?
[12:30] <goldfish> ryman: don't think u can get it for hoary.
[12:30] <goldfish> if you are on hoary.
[12:30] <ryman> hmm why not ?
[12:30] <lotusleaf> goldfish: not even from mozilla's site?
[12:30] <goldfish> no idea.
[12:31] <ryman> I downloaded it from www.getfirefox.com
[12:31] <goldfish> oh ok.
[12:31] <goldfish> Why are you upgrading if you dont mind me asking?
[12:31] <ryman> my firefox keep crashing
[12:31] <goldfish> k
[12:31] <ryman> and I think there is some security issue on firefox
[12:31] <goldfish> yeah
[12:31] <goldfish> there is on in the new version aswell
[12:31] <adb22791> hi
[12:31] <goldfish> *one
[12:31] <goldfish> adb22791: hello
[12:31] <ryman> I read it somewhere on the news
[12:31] <goldfish> ryman: what format is the file in?
[12:31] <adb22791> hey I need some help
[12:31] <adb22791> with the Live cd
[12:32] <ryman> taz.gz
[12:32] <goldfish> ryman: yeah there is, there is some on the new version aswell.
[12:32] <adb22791> can anyone point me to live cd documentation?
[12:32] <ryman> my firefox keep crashing
[12:32] <svart> mdke, the thing is that my computer is in a state of almost no functionality. I've had a disk crash, my rats bit of the keyboard cable and my cddrive sounds like it is grinding coffe.. Im just waiting for my new and shiny and shiny and shiny mac to arrive
[12:33] <svart> and i would really like to watch some movies rigth now :)
[12:33] <goldfish> ryman: well you need to unpack the tar, tar xvzf blah.tar.gz
[12:33] <goldfish> em then i think it's ./configure && make
[12:33] <goldfish> i'm not sure
[12:33] <adb22791> can someone please point me to Live CD documentation
[12:34] <goldfish> adb22791: emm, tried the ubuntu website?
[12:34] <micon> god damnit
[12:34] <dabaSlon> adb22791: whats up?
[12:34] <micon> what why the fuck am i getting stuck at this screen
[12:34] <ryman> goldfish do you have the link to the firefox news ?
[12:34] <goldfish> ryman: the vunerabilities?
[12:35] <ryman> goldfish, yes
[12:36] <goldfish> ryman: http://securityfocus.com/archive/1/397747/2005-05-07/2005-05-13/0
[12:36] <goldfish> uck wrong link
[12:36] <goldfish> sorry
[12:36] <goldfish> it's on bugtraq somewhere
[12:37] <goldfish> ryman: http://securityfocus.com
[12:37] <goldfish> have a browse there
[12:38] <ryman> goldfish, thanks
[12:39] <ryman> goldfish, found it http://securityfocus.com/news/11119
[12:39] <goldfish> ryman: hehe, sorry , i couldnt see it :)
[12:40] <adb22791> hi
[12:40] <adb22791> I need help
[12:41] <hyphenated> has anyone here set up the ATI driver with TV-out on ubuntu, and know of a good guide for it? google found plenty of guides, but some seem outdated/not for xorg/etc and I don't know what a good one is :-)
[12:41] <adb22791> Does anyone know any good documentation sites for the Live CD?
[12:41] <goldfish> adb22791: What's wrong?
[12:41] <hyphenated> adb22791: what kind of documentation?
[12:42] <adb22791> i just want to know more about running the Live CD
[12:42] <adb22791> like how to save preferences and all that
[12:42] <adb22791> It's been great so far
[12:43] <adb22791> can anybody help me>
[12:43] <adb22791> ?
[12:43] <hyphenated> adb22791: your question is too vague, and the live cd isn't well-documented
[12:43] <crimsun> adb22791: there isn't much in the way of specific documentation for the live cd(s)
[12:43] <crimsun> adb22791: most of what applies to an installed Ubuntu distro will apply also to the live cd
[12:45] <bthornton> For some reason, Synaptic all-the-sudden is asking me to insert at CD-ROM into the drive when preforming updates over the Internet.  Any clue how to fix this?
[12:45] <bthornton> I'm not even sure what caused it--I *just* did a system update over the 'net.
[12:45] <goldfish> bthornton: remove the line containing cd in sources.list
[12:45] <goldfish> bthornton: well, comment it out
[12:46] <dabaSlon> damn...I opened an HP computer as we are speaking, and that baby is packed...
[12:46] <bthornton> goldfish: Will do; thanks
[12:46] <dabaSlon> its tottaly full
[12:47] <hybrid_goth> umm this may be the wrong channel and if so plz someone redirect me but how do i veiw the source of a closed source program i.e. if i have the prog in my computer what can i do to see it
[12:47] <dabaSlon> crimsun: or others, for that matter...how should I go about determining if a hard drive is malfunctioning?
[12:47] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: an .exe ?
[12:47] <hybrid_goth> yes
[12:47] <goldfish> you coud dissasemble it
[12:47] <goldfish> *could
[12:48] <crimsun> dabaSlon: dmesg spew regarding your disk controller
[12:48] <goldfish> any good at assembly hybrid_goth ?
[12:48] <dabaSlon> crimsun: In english...;)
[12:48] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: how would i go about doin that
[12:48] <crimsun> dabaSlon: and if you're using a HD with s.m.a.r.t. enabled, the smartd logs
[12:48] <dabaSlon> it has nothing installed at this time.
[12:48] <hybrid_goth> no
[12:49] <crimsun> dabaSlon: prior to a drive succumbing, there usually are tons of errors in dmesg regarding the drive
[12:49] <FAR> Anyone know how to sort the KDE menu items ?
[12:49] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: is that the only way possible
[12:49] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: don't know
[12:49] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: sorry :(
[12:49] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: ok ty
[12:50] <La_PaRCa> hey kids. Does anyone know if the shipit cds for hoary have been shipped?
[12:50] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: np
[12:50] <Burgundavia> La_PaRCa, some have
[12:50] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, I get it...I have a hard drive that is not doing anything at this time...I want to install a windows on it...Now...I want to find out why have my previous attempts at installing it failed. Do you think I should just put the hard drive into my computer, test if it works in there, and then put it back and go from there?
[12:50] <psychonate> aw, this is unpleasant :(
[12:50] <La_PaRCa> Ok, just asking, because the shipit page hasnt been updated
[12:50] <psychonate> asciijump is super fun, but whenever I set a new hill record, it crashes :(
[12:50] <dabaSlon> and by not doing anything...I mean it has nothing on it.
[12:50] <chris_ubuntu> I have a bag full of PCI modems.  How can I find which ones will be easily recognized by ubuntu?
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, try them all?
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, it would also be great hardware testing
[12:51] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, basically, file bug reports for each that doesn't work
[12:51] <hybrid_goth> anyone know how i can take apart or view the source of a .exe?
[12:52] <awb4422> I've noticed that ffmpeg isn't compiled with xvid... is there a way to enable it without having to compile from source?
[12:52] <dabaSlon> there is no source in it, it is compiled.
[12:52] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, you can decompile
[12:52] <chris_ubuntu> Burgundavia, I have to be more time efficient than that.  Do you know of a listing of hardware vs winmodems which I can ref?
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: how would i do that
[12:52] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, no idea, google it
[12:52] <FAR> Dreamer3:  any luck with your modem? I was checkin' out http://www.linmodems.org/ and used their scanmodem tool which recommended i try out the slamr module
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> lol
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> ok
[12:52] <Burgundavia> chris_ubuntu, you might try googling the chipset
[12:53] <dabaSlon> ok, I am about to switch the monitors, so, Ill be a while before I get back, anyone have any advice, about what I had said earlier?
[12:53] <FAR> Dreamer3:  i had tried to install that before from synaptic but it kept failing so i downloaded and compiled the latest one from their site
[12:53] <dabaSlon> ok, here goes.
[12:53] <dead^^> i have a problem with installing w32codecs. i've tried different commands and different packages, but nothing seems to work >:'(
[12:54] <crimsun> dead^^: paste in #flood the errors
[12:54] <Burgundavia> dead^^, you have done the stuff at www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats?
[12:54] <Burgundavia> dead^^, sorry www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:54] <willis> has anyone gotten beagle from the breezy repositories to work?  or is there some inotify inconsistancy
[12:55] <Burgundavia> willis, i have
[12:55] <willis> BurgerMann, 2.6.10? or 2.6.12
[12:55] <msbender> hello, i have a problem with blurry fonts on my LCD display on my notebook, anybody who could help?
[12:56] <crimsun> msbender: did you configure System>Preferences>Fonts?
[12:56] <FAR> msbender: u using kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[12:56] <FAR> msbender:  i had the same problem with cleartype so i just disabled it
[12:56] <rhys-hynaws> hey how do I run setenv ?
[12:56] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: you don't by default, you use export
[12:57] <msbender> so far i've only tried ubuntu live, the same problem was under kanotix...
[12:57] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: bash is the default shell, not [t] ch
[12:57] <crimsun> [t] csh, rather
[12:57] <dabaSlon> export VAR='value'
[12:57] <rhys-hynaws> OH thank you
[12:57] <FAR> msbender:  sorry, i meant "anti-aliasing"
[12:57] <FAR> msbender:  try to disable it and see if that makes it any better
[12:58] <msbender> FAR: can you tell me how i can turn this off, i'm not in ubuntu now but will try later
[12:59] <FAR> msbender:  not sure about Gnome cause i'm using KDE, but like crimsun said look around under System>Preferences>Fonts
[12:59] <msbender> ok, will do my best, thanks a lot! :-)
[12:59] <revelater> hey, how do i get cups to recognize my printer?
[12:59] <dead^^> Burgundavia: naeh, i've been trying to download packages that people have been suggesting and nothing seems to happen =(
[12:59] <FAR> msbender:  good luck !
[12:59] <revelater> or just how do i run cups?
[01:00] <Burgundavia> dead^^, are familiar with linux/debian?
[01:00] <FAR> revelater:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[01:00] <dead^^> Burgundavia: not so much. I'm just startin' with Linux. i feel so frustrated. i've literally tried almost everything
[01:01] <revelater> hmmm, still not working, but cups is started
[01:01] <Burgundavia> dead^^, have you added the repositories in synaptic?
[01:01] <shido6> anytime I access my dvd to watch a movie, vlc, xine, totem my mouse dies
[01:01] <revelater> is their some gui interface for cups?
[01:01] <shido6> what do i do to recover my mouse when I watch a movie with my dvd player - or when I run vmware
[01:01] <dead^^> Burgundavia: yes, i've tried that too
[01:02] <dead^^> Burgundavia: nothing
[01:02] <rhys-hynaws> hey. export is not working like I need it to: setenv actalike.
[01:02] <Burgundavia> dead^^, can you paste me your sources.list
[01:02] <revelater> ?
[01:02] <dead^^> Burgundavia: wait a minute
[01:02] <revelater> is their some gui interface for cups?
[01:03] <FAR> revelater:  http://localhost:631/
[01:03] <nick58b> revelater: gnome-cups-manager
[01:04] <rhys-hynaws> hey. Can anyone tell me how to use export like setenv ?
[01:04] <FAR> revelater:  however i haven't been able to use this on my computers even after setting a root password it won't accept it, anyone know why ?
[01:04] <dabaSlon>  ok, it seems that the hard disk wasnt properly power supplied
[01:04] <benz> i need help mounting my ntfs partition
[01:04] <dabaSlon> benz ubuntuguide.org
[01:04] <dabaSlon> and, ls /dev
[01:04] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: export SOMEVAR=someval
[01:05] <dabaSlon> see which hdx123....is your partition
[01:05] <fsapo> hi.. somebody could help me with a very simple shellscript?
[01:05] <dabaSlon> fsapo: paste it to pastebin.com, and give us the URL
[01:05] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla ... is not working
[01:05] <fsapo> i have some movies to encode but each one takes 1 hour, i wanna make some kind of batch to run it
[01:05] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: why do you need to do that? the firefox script already does that
[01:06] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, Eclipse doesn't pick it up
[01:06] <revelater> hmm, my printer was paused for some reason...
[01:06] <dabaSlon> fsapo: what knowledge do you need?
[01:06] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, I am tryingto use PHPEclipse.
[01:06] <fsapo> dabaSlon, just how to make a shell script to run these commands, when one finishes, run another
[01:07] <fsapo> dabaSlon, i want to leave it encoding before going to bed ^^
[01:07] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: look at lines 92 && 94 of /usr/bin/firefox
[01:07] <dabaSlon> you can for example, just command && command && command && command...and as each finishes properly(hopefully) the other willl start
[01:07] <fsapo> dabaSlon, hum.. i think that is just it
[01:07] <dabaSlon> fsapo: you can as well, write a file, make the first line #! /usr/bin/bash
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, Oh! Thank you.
[01:08] <fsapo> dabaSlon, hum.. i think i ll do it
[01:08] <dabaSlon> And then add the commands each on a separate line, and save, chmod +x it, and ./script it.
[01:08] <fsapo> dabaSlon, if i put each on separate lines i dont need the &&?
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> crimsun, then do you have any idea why i get these: [debugger]
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.enabled=on
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.profiler_enabled=on
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.hosts_allow=host1 host2 (host names or IP allowed to start debug sessions)
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.hosts_deny=ALL
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> debugger.ports=7869, 10000/16
[01:08] <dabaSlon> right, and if one of them fails, the rest will run anyhow.
[01:08] <chris> How do I install a driver in ubuntu?  I think I can find it, but I don't know how to install.
[01:08] <rhys-hynaws> oops sorry for theflood
[01:09] <dabaSlon> find it first, and tell us what it is...
[01:09] <Razor-X> hey
[01:09] <fsapo> dabaSlon, ok.. thanx that's all i need ^^
[01:09] <Razor-X> i'm in Ubuntu now
[01:09] <dabaSlon> welcome
[01:09] <crimsun> rhys-hynaws: I am not familiar with PHPEclipse
[01:09] <dabaSlon> sweet, got back from school, eh?
[01:09] <metalsand> I love Dell Taco
[01:09] <Razor-X> yeahp
[01:10] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: I use Eclipse(the IDE??) and you just get their installer, run it, and it works.
[01:10] <Razor-X> time to install VLC
[01:10] <rhys-hynaws> dabaSlon, There is an Eclipse installer ? :O
[01:10] <fsapo> dabaSlon, the first line is: #! /usr/bin/bash or #!/usr/bin/bash? or the space means nothing?
[01:10] <dabaSlon> metalsand: does that mean it installed your wireless?
[01:10] <dabaSlon> space
[01:10] <dabaSlon> use it.
[01:10] <rhys-hynaws> lol this may be the root of my problem lol dabaSlon
[01:10] <dabaSlon> cool stuff.
[01:10] <fsapo> dabaSlon, ok thanx
[01:11] <dabaSlon> ok...
[01:11] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: try finding their installer on their site.
[01:11] <metalsand> crimsun: After I finish my lunch can you help me work on my card? ;)
[01:11] <dabaSlon> I gotta go back to the other computer to see how it is installing..
[01:11] <dabaSlon> heh
[01:12] <rhys-hynaws> dabaSlon, I downloaded: eclipse-SDK-3.0.2-linux-gtk.zip  ... is that not right?
[01:12] <crimsun> metalsand: perhaps. I'm proctoring a final exam atm.
[01:12] <metalsand> crimsun: Haha, wow. For what?
[01:12] <dabaSlon> it is the Eclipse, yes, but PHPEclipse, I  dont know what that is.
[01:12] <crimsun> metalsand: vulnerability assessment
[01:12] <rhys-hynaws> PHPEclipse is an Eclipse plugin
[01:13] <panzan> ok... I think this is a direct hit against Ubuntu founder... "Dell Founder Invests $99.5M in Red Hat" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/dell_red_hat
[01:13] <dabaSlon> rhys-hynaws: cool, try that.
[01:13] <scott> anyone know how to convert a dvd to xvid or divx in ubuntu?
[01:13] <metalsand> crimsun: What kind of class is that?
[01:13] <dabaSlon> wow, thats sure a lot of money.
[01:14] <dabaSlon> scott: try ubunntuforums, and google, if noone knows, I suspect those two places know.
[01:14] <metalsand> panzan: I saw that in Slashdot a few days ago
[01:14] <metalsand> A lot of money to just give away
[01:14] <panzan> guess.. Yahoo is a bit slow
[01:14] <panzan> hehehe
[01:14] <Razor-X> wow, I feel like an idiot....
[01:14] <dabaSlon> yeah, well, they dont specialize in that...
[01:14] <Razor-X> this isthe first time i've forgotten the root password.....
[01:14] <Razor-X> *is the
[01:14] <Razor-X> -_-
[01:14] <crimsun> metalsand: studies of buffer overflows, stack smashing, passive/active network attacks, and the like
[01:14] <dabaSlon> Razor-X: there is none. It is your password.
[01:14] <mebaran151> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device
[01:14] <mebaran151> I get this error whenever I print
[01:14] <mebaran151> how do I create this virtual device
[01:15] <Razor-X> dabaSlon: ohh, that's right!
[01:15] <dabaSlon> I know:)
[01:15] <panzan> is sudo a new concept introduced in ubuntu, or in debian?
[01:15] <Razor-X> I was.... thinking elsewhere during setup
[01:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> Where can I get a .deb for an older version of wine that was previously available???
[01:15] <mebaran151> sudo is a program taht wraps a command with root priveledges
[01:15] <dabaSlon> Razor-X: thats cool, a lot of those questions here...
[01:15] <crimsun> panzan: with openbsd originally but targeted for all posix
[01:15] <adb22791> where does the live cd save information?
[01:15] <mebaran151> Ubuntu took a relatively progressive stance
[01:15] <mebaran151> by disabling root account
[01:15] <Razor-X> yeah, well, I had to be sure that my parents didn't storm in during the install
[01:16] <mebaran151> the live CD doesnt
[01:16] <dabaSlon> adb22791: does it at all?
[01:16] <hyphenated> panzan: sudo has been around for a long time
[01:16] <mebaran151> but anyone here want to help me
[01:16] <mebaran151> ifix my printer
[01:16] <adb22791> so basically if i use the live cd i cant save anything
[01:16] <panzan> I never knew.... mandrake had a root account
[01:16] <adb22791> i thought it saved a small area on the harddisk for prefernces and updates
[01:16] <dabaSlon> is it installed in printers in administartion, under the system menu?
[01:16] <hyphenated> panzan: but it was only really known about by people that needed it's features
[01:17] <adb22791> Does the Live CD Save any info on the harddrive?
[01:18] <hyphenated> adb22791: only if you go out of your way to make it save things there
[01:18] <hyphenated> adb22791: otherwise it won't even touch the drive
[01:18] <adb22791> is there documentation on that?
[01:18] <panzan> Im now on a mission to create my own distro on a live CD!
[01:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> I really need the .deb of Wine-20050419 any ideas where i can get it?
[01:18] <panzan> It's going to take me 2 years!
[01:18] <Burgundavia> adb22791, what sort are you lookin or?
[01:18] <panzan> lol
[01:18] <panzan> wish me luck!
[01:19] <adb22791> i like manuals the best
[01:19] <crimsun> unless it finds swap space (a swap signature, rather) on the HD
[01:19] <kementeus> somebody could install sonance in hoary?
[01:19] <adb22791> a page that explains what to do
[01:19] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: if there's an RPM, you could alien it
[01:19] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, good idea... but i know there's already a .deb out there somewhere...
[01:20] <adb22791> i am new to debian and ubuntu
[01:20] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: just use Google then ;-P
[01:20] <dabaSlon> panzan: haha, cool statement...
[01:20] <adb22791> Basically a completed documentation source on the live cd
[01:20] <dabaSlon> panzan: its gonna take me 730 days...
[01:20] <dabaSlon> I have no plan, but, I know that is how long it will take me...
[01:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, tried that of course.
[01:21] <panzan> dabaSlon, are you mocking me? hehehehe
[01:21] <panzan> or are you serious?
[01:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, which rpm should I use ... one for suse, or one for rh
[01:22] <Razor-X> FlyingSquirrel32: i'ld asy RH
[01:22] <metalsand> How often are new kernel versions out?
[01:23] <pinS> is it really necessary to have phpbb2 in the packages?
[01:23] <hyphenated> metalsand: when they're ready, or when there's a security issue that was fixed and needs an immediate patch
[01:23] <pinS> isnt it better to just install it manually like the good ole days
[01:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, we'll see.
[01:23] <Razor-X> I heard from someone that the extra repositories the guide people tell you to add may break a lot of stuff... is that true?
[01:23] <Razor-X> because, then, I won't add em to my sources.list
[01:23] <adb22791> i get this error: dpkg was interupted while trying to apt-get update
[01:23] <panzan> "Some 90 percent of murderers are mentally ill, a higher percentage than believed previously, according to a Swedish study."
[01:23] <metalsand> BS.
[01:24] <pinS> lol
[01:24] <panzan> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050510/sc_afp/swedensciencemurderpsychiatry_050510172459
[01:24] <adb22791> lol someone help me
[01:24] <adb22791> oh wait i think i got it :)
[01:24] <Burgundavia> panzan, please keep to Ubuntu on-topic things here
[01:24] <metalsand> slashdot > Google news > * > Yahoo news
[01:24] <panzan> Burgundavia, sure, sorry for that.
[01:24] <pinS> metalsand, LOL
[01:24] <adb22791> google kicks ass
[01:24] <Razor-X> if I were to add repositories made for Debian, should I add Woody ones, or Sid ones?
[01:24] <metalsand> I'm trying to configure my network PCMCIA card
[01:24] <panzan> topix.net kicks ass
[01:24] <crimsun> metalsand: I think you reversed the comparison operators ;)
[01:24] <metalsand> Who wants to help
[01:25] <Razor-X> adb22791: more if you remember the internet before google
[01:25] <metalsand> crimsun: You up for a headache?
[01:25] <adb22791> yeha
[01:25] <crimsun> metalsand: I already have one, and I can't devote my full attention for another hour until this final is completed.
[01:25] <Flav> i may be missing something, but shouldn't this upgrade page mention dist-upgrade? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WartyUpgradeNotes
[01:26] <adb22791> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:26] <metalsand> crimsun: After I install HostAP is my card supposed to be automatically found?
[01:26] <adb22791> will that work for saving my config on my hard disk?
[01:26] <crimsun> Flav: no, why would it?
[01:27] <psychonate> Is there any way to start aterm without the window decorations (borderless)?
[01:27] <crimsun> Flav: update && dist-upgrade are assumed knowledge
[01:27] <Flav> crimsun: i followed its notes and got ubuntu-base installed (server system, no X, so no ubuntu-desktop needed), but still needed to upgrade tons of other packages
[01:27] <crimsun> Flav: feel free to amend them as necessary for clarity
[01:28] <Flav> crimsun: ah, ok - i had just done "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" unfortunately
[01:28] <Cliekid> Got a problem, when I try to load LimeWire, it says it can find a Java exec in the appropriate path...but then under it it says "/usr/java/j2re.../bin/java = Error.
[01:28] <adb22791> its debian good for dedicated servers?
[01:28] <scott> for some reason ubuntu stopped mounting my dvds on my desktop, and when I go into media/cdrom it doesn't show anything, and totem can't play the dvd when I do play disc..but vlc plays it fine
[01:28] <Cliekid> Anyone know what the problem may be on that? Its the Sun JRE...
[01:28] <crimsun> it's excellent, adb22791, just as Ubuntu is
[01:29] <kro> Is there a util to try and scan a floppy and attempt to determine what filesystem is on it?
[01:29] <JCooper> is it possible to remove the text labels from just the nautilus browser toolbar?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> a floppy?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> most likely to have FAT12
[01:29] <panzan> "Ubuntu Linux encourages sharing and copying" - http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3275743a28,00.html
[01:29] <kro> Someone gave me a floppy, it may have come from an Amiga...  not sure what OS or what he formated the floppy with, but I'm having problems reading it
[01:29] <Razor-X> kro: Amiga has it's own FS
[01:30] <Razor-X> I know Windows has some utilities to read it, and Linux must, just not familiar with 'em
[01:30] <kro> I was thinking there should be some util like "file", but for floppies.
[01:32] <metalsand2> Freenode go down?
[01:32] <metalsand2> No... Weird, I wonder why I couldn't connect.
[01:32] <metalsand2> I could still browse the internet.
[01:33] <psychonate> Are there any "unstable" versions of the packages that one can download? I need a newer version of aterm :(
[01:34] <JCooper> it should be relatively simple to compile aterm
[01:34] <psychonate> good point
[01:34] <psychonate> I'll try in a sec
[01:34] <JCooper> does ubuntu backports have anything newer?
[01:35] <psychonate> In synaptic, what is the difference between removal and complete removal?
[01:35] <psychonate> config files?
[01:35] <crimsun> yes
[01:35] <psychonate> ah, thanks
[01:35] <crimsun> it's the difference between remove and purge for dpkg
[01:35] <psychonate> I haven't really used Debian much heh
[01:38] <sir-gold> has anyone gotten dual-monitor mode to work on a radeon card?
[01:39] <emineo> i did
[01:39] <N33Dh3lp> hello
[01:39] <sir-gold> i managed to get some wierd mode where the mouse works properly, but everything else is cloned instead of wide
[01:39] <emineo> mines was cloned
[01:40] <emineo> but the second monitor was wide
[01:40] <N33Dh3lp>  Is there a functional difference between downloading Kubuntu, as a seperate OS and installing it, and adding Kubuntu Desktop to an up to date hoary build?
[01:40] <sir-gold> and fglfxconfig writes to the wrong file for xorg, which is odd seeing as its in the ubuntu wiki
[01:40] <sir-gold> N33Dh3lp, no
[01:41] <N33Dh3lp> awesome
[01:41] <N33Dh3lp> that will save me some time
[01:41] <sir-gold> other than you end up with both gnome and kde
[01:42] <N33Dh3lp> I Like having multiple WM's, each has its own perks
[01:42] <metalsand2> I love Prodigy
[01:42] <metalsand2> Peoples
[01:42] <metalsand2> How do I completely remove hostap?
[01:42] <metalsand2> I'm going to try wlan-ng over again now that I have no internal card
[01:42] <N33Dh3lp> I love how much better hoary has gotten in just the last couple of months
[01:42] <JCooper> how has it got betteR?
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> I especially like the consolidated back ports repository for getting all of the restricted format stuff
[01:43] <JCooper> true, v helpful indeed
[01:43] <Burgundavia> N33Dh3lp, that is not technically the Ubuntu people
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> I know, but its still an advantage :)
[01:43] <JCooper> its a benefit of the good community surrounding ubuntu :)
[01:43] <N33Dh3lp> yes
[01:44] <N33Dh3lp> one thing that I think is funny is the stink some people have been raising about having Java available in a repository
[01:44] <dockane> is there any good reason why cgoban does get listed in Applications->Games under gnome
[01:44] <dockane> *not
[01:44] <dockane> ?
[01:44] <N33Dh3lp> I mean, as long as it forces them to agree to the EULA, what is the big deal
[01:44] <JCooper> it might not have a .desktop file
[01:44] <JCooper> i agree... the same people that have issues with mono i guess
[01:45] <N33Dh3lp> if anything it helps lower the bandwidth burden on Sun
[01:45] <JCooper> i cant believe apache are starting yet another OSS jre
[01:45] <shido6> i removed my trash from the lower right hand corner of my screen, oops... how do i add it back?
[01:46] <N33Dh3lp> I will be back
[01:46] <JCooper> shido6, right click on the panel, add to panel...
[01:46] <metalsand2> right click on the panel --> Add to panel
[01:46] <metalsand2> Select the trash icon
[01:46] <gaussian88> I hope this isn't a stupid question, but here goes:  If a deb package installed on debian, is it safe to say that it will also install on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <cafuego> right click on the panel, click 'add to panel'
[01:46] <cafuego> gaussian88: No.
[01:46] <cafuego> gaussian88: You forgot the 'probably'
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: Will debian packages EVER install on Ubuntu?
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: ahhh   probably
[01:47] <JCooper> some do
[01:47] <gaussian88> cafuego: greater then or less then 50% success?
[01:47] <metalsand2> Wonda the magical fish of the Gnome panel just said that I'm so boring I make her feet go to sleep.
[01:47] <cafuego> gaussian88: More likely they will exhibit dependency problems and generally make life difficult.
[01:47] <gaussian88> thought so
[01:47] <cafuego> gaussian88: Easiest to fetch the debian source and rebuild the package on ubuntu.
[01:48] <cafuego> That way you can adjust depends too.
[01:48] <gaussian88> I found that once the multiverse and universe are "unleashed", shortage of packages shouldn't be a problem.   However, it's always those 1 or 2 packages that get ya
[01:48] <gaussian88> I guess I'll compile them myself then.    yuk
[01:48] <metalsand2> Children
[01:48] <metalsand2> How do I remove a module
[01:48] <metalsand2> and delete its directory'
[01:48] <cafuego> it's trivial with dpkg-buildpackage
[01:48] <gaussian88> I can have some guys in my company roll a few packages for Ubuntu I guess.
[01:49] <cafuego> metalsand2: man rmmod, grandpa
[01:49] <gaussian88> I guess I should ask --> anyone here have NXCLIENT on Ubuntu running yet?
[01:49] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, why company?
[01:49] <cafuego> What is nxclient?
[01:49] <gaussian88> nxclient ~= Citrix, but for Linux and it's free free free    ;)
[01:50] <gaussian88> it's my company and we are a Linux shop.  so we have guys that can roll a few packages
[01:50] <cafuego> Oh, I just use gnome-tsc
[01:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> Razor-X, I think it's gonna work. I'll have to finish tomorrow. Thanks!
[01:50] <darmou> how do I add people to groups using the command line, for some reason the ui tool has gone bung on me:(
[01:50] <metalsand2> cafuego: After I've rmmod the module
[01:50] <gaussian88> we're switching a few of our customers over to the fabulous world of Ubuntu
[01:50] <metalsand2> Do I need to clean anything up
[01:50] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, debian sid stuff might install on ubuntu
[01:50] <metalsand2> folders or remains of the file?
[01:50] <Burgundavia> gaussian88, but I would roll your own
[01:50] <cafuego> metalsand2: maybe
[01:50] <metalsand2> Well
[01:51] <metalsand2> How would I go about doing that
[01:51] <metalsand2> The module is hostap
[01:51] <cafuego> metalsand2: Check which hostap-related packages are installed and remove them?
[01:52] <cafuego> metalsand2: Easiest to do via synaptic probably, if you're in X.
[01:52] <metalsand2> Should I remove or complete remove?
[01:52] <metalsand2> :x
[01:52] <cafuego> complete remove will also purge config files
[01:53] <zoddan> i have added my WLAN-card to interfaces but it wont connect at boot :(
[01:53] <ubuntu> hi all
[01:53] <metalsand2> So, that's probably a good ideA?
[01:53] <ubuntu> thi's a good linux distro:9
[01:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> cafuego, where can I learn about creating packages?
[01:53] <zoddan> i must do it by my self everytime i start
[01:53] <zoddan> how can i fix this ?
[01:53] <Burgundavia> FlyingSquirrel32, debian new maintainers guide
[01:53] <cafuego> FlyingSquirrel32: probably the best place to start is the new maintainer's guide on debian.org
[01:53] <FlyingSquirrel32> cafuego thx
[01:53] <cafuego> http://nm.debian.org/
[01:53] <zoddan> anyone? :)
[01:54] <Razor-X> ah hah!
[01:54] <cafuego> metalsand2: if you don't want to use it anymore, with that configuration... yeah
[01:54] <Razor-X> I now have VLC!
[01:54] <nate__> sup
[01:54] <cafuego> lspci
[01:54] <Razor-X> which means, my media problems are solved with no codecs
[01:54] <Amaranth> Razor-X: It's the best. :)
[01:55] <nate__> anyone know how to restart the ssh daemon?
[01:55] <crimsun> nate__: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:55] <nate__> Razor-X: codecs are a breeze
[01:55] <cafuego> Awright
[01:55] <Razor-X> Amaranth: yeah, but it was 40 GB, because Kubuntu doesen't have gtklib
[01:55] <Razor-X> nate__: that, and I like VLC too
[01:55] <Amaranth> MB
[01:55] <Razor-X> *MB
[01:55] <Razor-X> ;-P
[01:55] <nate__> crimsun: it gives me: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh -restart
[01:55] <nate__> Password:
[01:55] <nate__>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart}
[01:56] <cafuego> nate__: Well, that seems clear enough.
[01:56] <Razor-X> VLC for Linux seems way faster than its Windows counterpart, mmmmmm
[01:56] <Amaranth> I should get him to roll his version with WMV3 support into a deb
[01:56] <nate__> oh no -
[01:56] <nate__> ha!
[01:56] <Razor-X> now, i'm gonna try and get gtk-qt
[01:56] <cafuego> nate__: See how the usage info doesn't list "-restart' ?
[01:57] <cafuego> woo, it boots :-)
[01:58] <metalsand2> ror: temporary failed naming something or rather
[01:58] <metalsand2> fail
[01:59] <metalsand2> How do I "repair" that so it doesn't fail everytime I boot?
[01:59] <difeta> how can I make my $PATH include /opt/somedir/bin ?
[01:59] <goldfish> difeta: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/somedir/bin
[01:59] <difeta> goldfish, yeah, but how can i preserve that setting for every terminal in X?
[01:59] <goldfish> stick it in .bashrc
[02:00] <goldfish> or em
[02:00] <goldfish> hmmm
[02:00] <difeta> goldfish, it doesnt seem to work in .bashrc
[02:00] <goldfish> ah right :/
[02:00] <difeta> goldfish, in fact i have it in /etc/profile and it doesnt work in X
[02:01] <Dave9191> czesc marcin :)
[02:02] <testuser> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[02:02] <testuser> .
[02:03] <zoddan> does anyone know how to get wlan to work in ubuntu ?
[02:05] <crimsun> zoddan: ideally you just turn on the machine
[02:05] <zoddan> crimsun no shit :)
[02:06] <crimsun> (watch the language, please)
[02:06] <crimsun> it'd be immensely helpful if you provided symptoms
[02:06] <zoddan> i have added the nic to interfaces but i wont start at boot
[02:06] <zoddan> i have to do i manually
[02:07] <zoddan> to get it to connect
[02:07] <crimsun> are you using Warty or Hoary?
[02:07] <zoddan> Hoary
[02:08] <zoddan> is it a bug or what ?
[02:08] <rhys-hynaws> Can anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?
[02:08] <mz2> oh grand, backports work again
[02:09] <spidna> any gotten xmms on ubuntu 5.4
[02:09] <crimsun> zoddan: paste your /etc/network/interfaces in #flood
[02:09] <crimsun> spidna: sure, it's in main. What's up?
[02:09] <zoddan> crimsun: there is not mutch
[02:10] <zoddan> just 3 lines for the wlan
[02:10] <spidna> just can't apt-get it
[02:10] <Razor-X> where is Firefox installed to?
[02:10] <crimsun> spidna: is the main repo enabled?
[02:10] <crimsun> Razor-X: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[02:10] <Razor-X> cool
[02:10] <rhys-hynaws> Can anyone help me get the internal browser working in Eclipse ?
[02:10] <zoddan> crimsun: done
[02:11] <spidna> Crimsun where would i find that
[02:11] <crimsun> spidna: System>Administration>Synaptic>Settings>Repositories
[02:11] <crimsun> zoddan: ok
[02:12] <crimsun> zoddan: are you saying that the iface isn't brought up on boot? If so, that's easily resolved. Add "auto eth1" to /etc/network/interfaces
[02:12] <zoddan> crimsun: i have but that didnt help
[02:13] <zoddan> crimsun: it is not connecting to my AP anyway :(
[02:13] <crimsun> zoddan: have you used the wifi troubleshooting guide(s) on the wiki?
[02:13] <crimsun> zoddan: particularly with iwconfig, etc.?
[02:13] <zoddan> crimsun: the Link LED is flashing but it wont connect so i have to take out the card and restart the nic to get it to work
[02:14] <zoddan> crimsun: i use iqconfig to set essid and so on
[02:14] <zoddan> w
[02:14] <spidna> crimsun it appears to be enable
[02:15] <zoddan> crimsun so i have to do it manually :(
[02:15] <zoddan> crimsun: is it some bug or what ?
[02:15] <crimsun> spidna: paste in #flood the output of apt-cache policy xmms
[02:15] <crimsun> zoddan: did you use the network config tool?
[02:15] <crimsun> zoddan: System>Administration>Networking
[02:17] <Flav> what's the way to list just the currently installed packages besides dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[02:17] <zoddan> crimsun yes that to
[02:18] <zoddan> crimsun nothing helps
[02:18] <zoddan> crimsun: onyl works when i do it by my self after the boot
[02:18] <crimsun> Flav: dpkg -l   by itself suffices
[02:18] <Flav> crimsun: that shows some packages in "rc" mode.  Is there a way to purge the config files of these removed but not purged packages?
[02:19] <crimsun> sure, use shell scripting
[02:19] <zoddan> when is the new ubuntu comming out ?
[02:19] <crimsun> zoddan: Oct
[02:20] <zoddan> maybe my wlan will work in that
[02:20] <zoddan> aha :(
[02:20] <Flav> crimsun: what's the command to remove just the config files?  apt-get remove --purge doesn't work, of course
[02:20] <crimsun> Flav: dpkg -P foo
[02:20] <Flav> crimsun: danke
[02:20] <zoddan> crimsun how about if i make a script that runs at boot ?
[02:21] <crimsun> zoddan: sure, whatever works for you. File a bug in bugzilla if it's broken.
[02:21] <zoddan> ok
[02:21] <zoddan> well i have done everything i can come up with
[02:21] <zoddan> but it wont connect
[02:21] <Deffie> ubuntu has any kernel-source package with the default configuration ?
[02:21] <zoddan> maybe the iwconfig is not loaded when it tryes to connect or something
[02:21] <zoddan> it starts the nic but it is not setting the essid and so on
[02:22] <zoddan> mybe thats the problem
[02:22] <crimsun> do you have a mapping section in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:22] <zoddan> hum
[02:22] <zoddan> i think so
[02:22] <zoddan> why ?
[02:23] <crimsun> ensure that you do.
[02:24] <zoddan> crimsun yep i have
[02:24] <crimsun> then file a bug in bugzilla
[02:27] <testuser> anyone run mythtv?
[02:29] <Flav> crimsun: some of the package names are so long they get truncated in dpkg -l output - any way to get them to print with their full name in dpkg -l?
[02:31] <Deffie> any info/url/doc about rebuilding ubuntu's kernel ?
[02:31] <SpAwN> is ubuntu free
[02:31] <Deffie> yes it is
[02:31] <SpAwN> WOO HOO
[02:31] <Deffie> chech http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[02:32] <Deffie> *check
[02:32] <SpAwN> Later
[02:32] <SpAwN> bye bye
[02:33] <Flav> crimsun: it seems to be when the output is redirected - hmm
[02:34] <Jibby> how do I add a directory to my path?
[02:35] <Flav> Jibby: with which shell? export PATH=/some/dir:$PATH for bash
[02:35] <zoddan> crimsun: eth1 was not under the mapping section, do i have to add ?
[02:36] <Jibby> Flaw: yes bash - do i change /etc/profile ?
[02:36] <Razor-X> after you edit menu.lst in GRUB
[02:37] <Razor-X> do you have to specify a command for it to load the new menu.lst?
[02:37] <Razor-X> (like in LILO)
[02:38] <Deffie> Razor-X grub-install /dev/device
[02:38] <Razor-X> I have to do that, again?
[02:39] <Deffie> every time you modify menu.lst
[02:39] <Deffie> it is like "lilo" after modifyng /etc/lilo.conf
[02:39] <Deffie> *modifying
[02:39] <Razor-X> oh, ok
[02:40] <Razor-X> done ;)
[02:42] <Jormundgand> In XChat can I pipe the result of a command into a file like in a console?
[02:43] <goldfish> you could try /exec command > file maybe
[02:43] <goldfish> that works on irssi
[02:44] <goldfish> dunno about xchat
[02:44] <ryman> man
[02:44] <ryman> I'm sick of firefox
[02:44] <ryman> it keeps crashing
[02:44] <ryman> my ubuntu keep freezing
[02:44] <ryman> is there any better web browser
[02:45] <concept10> anyone here ever setup mambo server?
[02:45] <Deffie> Jormundgand about pipeping, try something simple to try if works like /exec ps aux | grep xchat
[02:45] <Flav> How can I get dpkg to "force" a removal when postrm scripts are failing, but I don't care?
[02:45] <goldfish> ryman: Internet Explorer.
[02:45] <ryman> goldfish, lol
[02:45] <Deffie> ryman firefox isnt that bad, really; but if you want you can try epiphany
[02:45] <resiak> Galeon!
[02:45] <ryman> like when I right click on the pix on a website
[02:46] <ryman> then i click "view image"
[02:46] <ryman> it crashed firefox
[02:46] <nate__> i've had firefox crash, but mostly when i'm attempting stupid stuff, or simply overloading it
[02:46] <ryman> does your ubuntu freeze ?
[02:46] <nnonix> never
[02:46] <nnonix> or, never (yet)
[02:46] <ryman> hmm maybe there is osmehitng wrong with my hard drive or something
[02:46] <Jormundgand> Deffie: I want to store the results of a /list command in a file, or in a tab for viewing separately. As is it displays in the channel window and overflows the buffer.
[02:47] <resiak> Flav: "fix" the postrm scripts?
[02:47] <Deffie> ryman as resiak sayis galeon or epiphany, they are the same, one is older the other is newer but i dont remember which of the 2 is the newer
[02:48] <Deffie> i've been using epiphany because firefox was too big for my old pc
[02:48] <Deffie> they are lighter
[02:49] <concept10> I have installed mysql 4.0.23 on a fresh install of ubuntu, what do I have to do next to setup mysql to make ready for Mambo CMS?
[02:49] <Jormundgand> If I want to uninstall a manually installed version of Firefox (which is, for sake of argument, in /home/ketsuban/firefox) how would I uninstall it?
[02:50] <shad0w1e> is GRUB compatible with Linux being on an XFS partition?
[02:50] <Deffie> Jormundgand you can simply delete it if it isnt referenced by anything important
[02:50] <raiz> Ok, can someone check my sintax real quick?  I'm not even sure that this will work...
[02:50] <raiz> deb ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware
[02:51] <raiz> If I add that to my scources list I should be able to download the whole thing right?
[02:51] <raiz> using apt-get...
[02:52] <Deffie> raiz it should be deb ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware but with that host/ftp it will probably wont work
[02:52] <raiz> Why with that host?
[02:53] <raiz> What's wrong with them?
[02:53] <Deffie> raiz because afaik slackware ftp doesnt contains deb packages nor has an apt-suitable structure
[02:53] <raiz> Ah...
[02:53] <raiz> Ok.
[02:54] <raiz> Is there any way I can get around that?  (Please don't say bittorrents...;.;)
[02:55] <Deffie> raiz check your query window
[02:55] <raiz> Ok.  Thanks.
[02:56] <ryman> thanks guys ... I will try them out
[02:57] <mr_roboto>  Jormundgand: how about "rm -rf /home/ketsuban/firefox && rm -rf /home/ketsuban/.mozilla"
[02:57] <Jormundgand> mr_roboto: deleting the folder seems to have had the desired effect.
[02:58] <mr_roboto> Jormundgand: the second folder (.mozilla/firefox) is where the profiles and cache stuff is stored. if you leave that it will be eating disk unnecessarily
[02:59] <Jormundgand> And that won't interfere with regular package Firefox's settings?
[02:59] <mr_roboto> Jormundgand: oh... well yes :)   i thought you said you installed it manually. didn't know you did BOTH
[03:00] <Jormundgand> I removed one, installed t'other, hated the non-transparent logo, switched back.
[03:00] <mr_roboto> ahhh
[03:01] <mark345> anyone here using gnome 2.10.1?
[03:02] <Deffie> anyone knows where to get ubuntu kernel sources ?
[03:04] <resiak> Deffie: apt-cache search linux-source ?
[03:04] <Deffie> resiak i tried but theres only 2.4.X
[03:05] <Deffie> resiak i'm looking for 2.6...i can get the vanilla kernel but isnt that easy to reproduce ubuntu default kernel config
[03:08] <Deffie> resiak i'm looking if the default kernel config is accessible through ikconfig
[03:09] <batkins_> does ubuntu use the same packages as debian?
[03:09] <batkins_> when i do an apt-get, do the packages come from debian or ubuntu?
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> yes and no
[03:09] <resiak> No, just a no.
[03:09] <Deffie> batkins_ they come from ubuntu
[03:09] <resiak> The packages come from Ubuntu, unless you've done very silly things.
[03:10] <resiak> WTF, packages.u.c is down.
[03:10] <batkins_> i haven't changed anything, just curious
[03:12] <Deffie> resiak hoary's kernel doesnt have ikconfig/config.gz support i'm subscribing to the ubuntu kernel mailing list to ask for that, it will be useful
[03:12] <resiak> Deffie: Go for it.
[03:14] <hyphenated> kudos to ubuntu (hoary).. it got my laptop's resolution correct without any extra work on my part. it's a weird widescreen resolution
[03:14] <snetx10> well i wish it would properly configure my dual-monitor setup automatically
[03:14] <snetx10> or rather, even manually would be nice... not workin for me
[03:17] <hyphenated> snetx10: there's a forum to have a browse through, to see if someone has had that same problem, and found a solution
[03:19] <snetx10> yeah its just tough because nobody has the exact same two monitors that i have, with the same video card, with ubuntu hoary
[03:19] <daniels> dual-monitors are *hard* to get right
[03:20] <nopea> after moving a file to the trash and emptying it there is still a file with the same name ending with ~ when I browse for a file inside programs etc.  What is this?
[03:20] <nopea> also in the terminal too
[03:20] <goldfish> a backup maybe?
[03:20] <tritium> nopea, some programs, especially editors, leave backup files like that
[03:21] <nopea> they are hidden? they dont start with '.'
[03:22] <Burgundavia> nopea, they are not hidden
[03:22] <Burgundavia> nopea, they exist for very good reasons
[03:22] <Jormundgand> http://www.ketsuban.net/images/backgrounds/Minimalistic_Black_and_White.jpg - Do there exist any backgrounds like this one - same style?
[03:23] <nopea> Burgundavia, and that reason is?
[03:23] <Burgundavia> nopea, say you edit your sources.list or your xorg.conf and then it breaks
[03:24] <Burgundavia> it is very easy to 'mv blah~ blah' than figure out what you have borked
[03:25] <nopea> Burgundavia, ok so backup files... but they are hidden
[03:25] <Deffie> nopea many times such files gets removed on correct editor termination, are you killing -9 or "forcing quits" ?
[03:25] <Burgundavia> nopea, no ~ are not hidden
[03:25] <nopea> Deffie, somtimes gphpedit crashes
[03:26] <Burgundavia> gedit leaves them behind by default
[03:26] <raiz> Where is java on your system?
[03:26] <nopea> Burgundavia, what I am saying is that even tho they are say in my Desktop directory they do not appear on my Desktop - or in other directories they exsist in my home directory
[03:26] <shad0w1e> anyone here know why I cant get GRUB working on my XFS linux partition?
[03:27] <raiz> Mine doesn't return anything when I use whereis... or locate, or find...
[03:27] <Burgundavia> nopea, hmm
[03:27] <Deffie> nopea i dont know gphpedit, try to figure if the files you found have been edited eith gphpedit
[03:27] <raiz> shadow, what partitions do you have?
[03:27] <shad0w1e> grub-install says "not a block device"
[03:27] <nopea> I think I have some left behind by Bluefish too - but that doesnt crash
[03:28] <shad0w1e> I have 2 partitions. hde1 (xfs, /) and hde2 (swap)
[03:28] <pschulz01> Greetings - hoary CD's..
[03:28] <raiz> not a block device?  Ok, are you in ubuntu?
[03:28] <shad0w1e> raiz: I booted off the install CD, let it detect my hardware, then mounted my drive, and chrooted into it
[03:28] <pschulz01> I was sent the previous verison.. do I need to request more or will they be automatically sent out?
[03:29] <Deffie> nopea they arent displayed from the gui because gnome filemanager recognizes them as backups, maybe theres an option in preferences or in gconf
[03:29] <raiz> Ok, so you are in ubuntu.
[03:29] <shad0w1e> raiz: yes
[03:29] <raiz> Did you remember to mount on /
[03:29] <shad0w1e> raiz: what do you mean
[03:29] <nopea> Deffie, cool thanks
[03:29] <nate__> anyone familiar with keychain who can help me set it up?
[03:30] <shad0w1e> you mean in my fstab?
[03:30] <raiz> Um, well, it wanted me to mount on / when I installed.
[03:30] <shad0w1e> my fstab is fine. it came from another system
[03:30] <raiz> Ok.
[03:30] <raiz> Try this in a terminal.
[03:30] <nopea> Deffie, yes you are right its a setting in the File Managment pref.
[03:30] <raiz> less /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <shad0w1e> I copied all the files over. this used to be an ext2 system but I copied the contents onto an XS partition
[03:30] <raiz> Tell me what that returns.
[03:30] <shad0w1e> my menu.lst is fine
[03:31] <Deffie> nopea and maybe the editors too have some option regarding the creation of them
[03:31] <Deffie> nopea sorry i'm not that good in english i take some time to write :)
[03:31] <raiz> Ok, so when is it giving you this error?
[03:31] <nopea> Deffie, yeah I am going to look into that.... not a huge issue now that I know what they are
[03:31] <nopea> Deffie, thats ok ;-)
[03:32] <shad0w1e> grub-install /dev/hde1
[03:32] <shad0w1e> I get ERROR: hde1 is not a block device
[03:32] <mebaran151> I have a printer prbolem
[03:32] <raiz> Ah, printer problems...
[03:32] <mebaran151> Printing: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device
[03:32] <Deffie> shad0w1e maybe the errors are in /etc/mtab /etc/fstab
[03:32] <mebaran151> how od I make that device work
[03:32] <mebaran151> it is a virtual device
[03:33] <mebaran151> that should link to /dev/usb/lp0
[03:33] <raiz> Have you tried just... doing what he just said...
[03:33] <mebaran151> but I dont know how to link it
[03:33] <nopea> my printer just spits out empty paper one after another in Ubuntu - never had luck setting up my printer
[03:33] <raiz> Open computer, systemconfig, printing, try to auto detect the printer...
[03:34] <shad0w1e> how about this: I run grub.
[03:34] <shad0w1e> when I type in root(hd0,0) I get "selected disk doesnt exist"
[03:35] <BrettMeister> Well..I've encountered a prob that I haven't had before.  I'm having trouble on my newl-installed 5.04 Ubuntu machine with getting authentication to happen on XChat.
[03:35] <Xanadu> wow there are a lot of ppl here
[03:35] <lampshade> Xanadu, the other night we had 500+
[03:35] <Xanadu> sheesh!
[03:35] <shad0w1e> raiz: my fstab and mtab seem fine
[03:36] <Xanadu> and u all use ubuntu?
[03:36] <mebaran151> raiz, tried taht
[03:36] <BrettMeister> Keep getting the message "No identd (auth) response", then, next line: "USER: Not enough parameters.
[03:36] <mebaran151> this is an autodetected printer
[03:36] <nate__> would anyone with knowledge of keychain please help me set it up?
[03:36] <raiz> meb, your printer has to be on before your computer.
[03:36] <BrettMeister> Ideas, anyone? :-)
[03:37] <nopea> problem about autodetect is that the model is sometimes not in the list
[03:37] <Deffie> BrettMeister some times it depends on the ircd, try passing /quote or /raw (i dont remember which uses xchat) pass <password> manually and then add the command to the on connect commands
[03:37] <Xanadu> um ok new here so hope i'm not breaking protocol but i do have a question
[03:38] <Deffie> nopea which printer do you have ?
[03:38] <Crane> hello
[03:38] <BrettMeister> Deffie: Thanks.  I'm trying to get to here and have had no trouble before now.  I'm using Konversation right now on my MEPIS machine.
[03:38] <mebaran151> it was
[03:38] <mebaran151> my pritner is always on
[03:38] <nopea> my printer is an Epson - which I bought in Japan... in the rest of the world its a 'Stylus Photo' or something like that - but here its a PM-G800 and thats Japan only so its not on the list
[03:38] <mebaran151> it is an R800
[03:38] <Xanadu> how do you split one machine into two machines? i've figured out how to get two terminals going with GDM, can split the mice, but when it comes down to the keyboards i'm stuck
[03:38] <mebaran151> I have Gutenprint 5.0 running as the driver
[03:38] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[03:38] <Xanadu> oh i'm a newbie so please use small words
[03:38] <raiz> And you selected the drivers from the disk?
[03:39] <mebaran151> no
[03:39] <mebaran151> make compiled one
[03:39] <mebaran151> the latest version of Gimp-Print
[03:39] <mebaran151> the driver is not the problem though
[03:39] <raiz> Um...
[03:39] <mebaran151> because this is a device error
[03:39] <raiz> ok.
[03:39] <mebaran151> the device should be findable
[03:40] <mebaran151> perhaps the '%20' is not being made into a space or something
[03:40] <Razor-X> holycow: i'm in Ubuntu ;)
[03:40] <batkins_> what package is wine in?
[03:40] <ubuntu> excuse me all of you, can i ask a question? how much in seconds does your system boot up?
[03:40] <Deffie> nopea yep as mebaran151 says, have you tried gimp-print ?
[03:40] <holycow> Razor-X, nice :)
[03:40] <^thehatsrule^> hey Razor-X ;p
[03:40] <holycow> how long did your install take?
[03:40] <raiz> Ah, that could be.
[03:40] <vigilanty> can anybody help me?
[03:40] <Razor-X> less than 20 ;-P
[03:40] <Razor-X> i'ld say, 15
[03:40] <raiz> ubuntu 20...
[03:40] <mebaran151> vigilanty, what app
[03:40] <holycow> *ding*
[03:40] <holycow> toldja :)
[03:40] <vigilanty> anything
[03:40] <nopea> Deffie, yes thats what the driver gets set to
[03:40] <mebaran151> at terminal type gksudo synaptic
[03:40] <mebaran151> use your passwd
[03:41] <ubuntu> i don't use ubuntu i'd like to know if the kernel is heavy?
[03:41] <Xanadu> hmm no one helping me either vigilante
[03:41] <raiz> ubuntu: in windows, ten min. =p
[03:41] <mebaran151> and bam you have 15 thou of apps
[03:41] <Razor-X> and, NTFS resizing took about 15 minutes
[03:41] <mebaran151> the kernel is a bit fix
[03:41] <DonL> ubuntu, I'd say about 20 seconds
[03:41] <batkins_> can i install wine with apt-get?
[03:41] <holycow> haha windows users never believe me you can get a full desktop and tons of apps installed in less than 20
[03:41] <Deffie> nopea it is attached to usb or parallel ?
[03:41] <mebaran151> yeah you can
[03:41] <Razor-X> ubuntu: no, not at all
[03:41] <mebaran151> usb
[03:41] <nopea> Deffie, USB
[03:41] <mebaran151> i believe
[03:41] <vigilanty> ok
[03:41] <holycow> yeah that doesn't count tho, neither does configuration as each network config sys config are different
[03:41] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[03:41] <vigilanty> not sure what u just said though
[03:41] <mebaran151> it is a little harder than you think it will be
[03:41] <Razor-X> holycow: well, i'm not a Windows user, but, yeah, I didn't believe it ;-P
[03:42] <mebaran151> you have to apply a couple kernel patches
[03:42] <Xanadu> mebaran151 don't worry i know - i've been battlign for days
[03:42] <mebaran151> to make it multiple keyboard friendly
[03:42] <Xanadu> arg! patches!
[03:42] <holycow> Razor-X, welcome to linux, enjoy your stay :)
[03:42] <Xanadu> i can never get patches to work on ubuntu for some reason
[03:42] <Deffie> nopea sincerely i dont know the printer or its problems with linux but trying with parallel port might help
[03:42] <nopea> Deffie, if I recall it did this in Fedora too
[03:42] <americanLoki> hi all
[03:42] <ubuntu> when it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:42] <nopea> Deffie, thanks buts its USB 2 only :(
[03:42] <raiz> where is java on your system?  Mine seems to be misplaced...
[03:43] <Razor-X> holycow: I doubt i'll be leaving any time soon ;-P
[03:43] <transgress> yeah i'm aware there is a wiki for skype, but i've got it all set up and running, but i can't get anyone to hear me with it... and my mic works fine in TeamSpeak... anyone got a suggestion?
[03:43] <Xanadu> ok megaran151 start at the beginning: how do you apply a patch correctly in ubuntu?
[03:43] <ubuntu> when it boots up, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:43] <holycow> Razor-X, that is the general tendency, windows is a horrible environment to haveto use
[03:43] <^thehatsrule^> Razor-X, time for a game of tetrinet?
[03:43] <holycow> except for games
[03:43] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Hi
[03:44] <ubuntu> does it display in framebuffer?
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: could you please reprase your question
[03:44] <Razor-X> ^thehatsrule^: yes! although, not today
[03:44] <Razor-X> do I have to add anything to my sources.list?
[03:44] <Razor-X> so, i'll have it setup to play tomorrow
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Most hardware is auto-deteted and appropriate modules loaded
[03:44] <Razor-X> (dad will come home soon :\)
[03:44] <Lathiat> ubuntu: and framebuffers are not used by default
[03:44] <ubuntu> when the kernel is loading, does it try to prode much modules?
[03:44] <vigilanty> how do i install apps that i download off of the net, like opera or trillian?
[03:44] <ih8evil> What packages do I use to install wine?
[03:45] <Lathiat> ih8evil: just the wine package
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: it depends what you download
[03:45] <ih8evil> I tried that
[03:45] <DonL> ubuntu, I always try to turn on any peripherals when booting, and have had good luck so far
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: the easiest way is to get a .deb package
[03:45] <ubuntu> at the installation, do we have to configure the kernel we're installing?
[03:45] <Razor-X> nope
[03:45] <vigilanty> Lathiat, let's say i download opera
[03:45] <Lathiat> vigilanty: trillian will not run, that is a windwos program
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: i tired sudo apt-get install wine, didn't work
[03:45] <vigilanty> how do i make it work with this os?
[03:45] <Razor-X> you can take a look at the install guide
[03:45] <Xanadu> vigilanty: click System, Administration, Synaptec Package Management
[03:45] <Lathiat> batkins_: Have you enabled the universe repository?
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: nope
[03:45] <Xanadu> vigilanty: enter your root password
[03:45] <batkins_> Lathiat: how do i do that?
[03:46] <vigilanty> ok
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: go system->adminitration->synaptic
[03:46] <Razor-X> vigilanty: you can't, but there are alternatives, such as, GAIM, or Kopete
[03:46] <ubuntu> or it installs a default kernel as fedora or other do?
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: settings->preferences
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: add
[03:46] <Razor-X> well, you maybe can, but, i'm not sure...
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: check universe, multiverse
[03:46] <Xanadu> vigilanty: click reload
[03:46] <Razor-X> not exactly the WINE expert
[03:46] <Lathiat> batkins_: hit ok to everything adn reload
[03:46] <Xanadu> vigilanty: search and tick whatever you want, and click apply
[03:47] <DonL> Synaptic's great
[03:47] <Xanadu> vigilanty: once it's done, hit Alt-F2 and type "killall gnome-panel" to reload your menus
[03:47] <ubuntu> do you all use the same kernel, you guess?
[03:47] <raiz> Xanadu: Where are your java files stored?
[03:47] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:47] <Razor-X> holycow: where's Firefox located on the system?
[03:47] <vigilanty> it didn't find it
[03:47] <raiz> Mine seem to have walked off...
[03:47] <Xanadu> raiz: on my Puter. Why?
[03:47] <DonL> Xanadu, Alt-escape does that too
[03:47] <Razor-X> ubuntu: some people use different kernels
[03:47] <raiz> lol
[03:48] <ubuntu> ok!
[03:48] <vigilanty> Razor-x, why can't I?
[03:48] <Xanadu> Donl: kewl!
[03:48] <ubuntu> human distribution, not like gentoo :d
[03:48] <batkins_> Lathiat: i don't see Add in preferences
[03:48] <holycow> Razor-X, you mean installed or in the menu?
[03:48] <Razor-X> or, anyone, where's Firefox located on the system?
[03:48] <ubuntu> thx
[03:48] <goldfish> Razor-X: 'locate firefox'
[03:48] <raiz> Because I need to source them.
[03:48] <Razor-X> vigilanty: Windows programs don't work in linux
[03:48] <vigilanty> At opera's download page, there is a version of it for download for ubuntu
[03:48] <Razor-X> goldfish: doh!
[03:48] <batkins_> Razor-X: the executable is /usr/bin/firefox normally
[03:48] <holycow> what goldfish said
[03:48] <rhys-hynaws> Razor-X, try /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <holycow> both are correct
[03:49] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:49] <holycow> and manuals are in another directory ... i forget which
[03:49] <Lathiat> batkins_: repostiroeies, not preferences
[03:49] <holycow> help files i mean
[03:49] <Razor-X> ahh,, then I believe Kubuntu doesen't come with Firefox
[03:49] <Lathiat> batkins_: my bad, i said the wrong word
[03:49] <Razor-X> ah well, Konqueror is nice enough for me
[03:49] <Xanadu> don't listen to them Razor-X: /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[03:49] <holycow> Razor-X, do ctrl / l in the konq window
[03:49] <raiz> Xanadu: because I need to source my java files.
[03:49] <Razor-X> Xanadu: tried that too
[03:49] <rhys-hynaws> Razor-X, Kubuntu is kde using Conquerorinstead of firefox
[03:49] <Razor-X> that's what I thought
[03:49] <holycow> theres another shortcut for splitting it the other way too
[03:50] <ubuntu> a friend of mine tried ubuntu and just after the installation, some application didn't work, i.e: mozilla was loading but always crashed. can someone tell me the issue?
[03:50] <Razor-X> now I have to look up Java in Konqueror
[03:50] <Xanadu> razor-x: try "which firefox"
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Well the issue could be a number of things
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Was this a hoary install ?
[03:50] <ubuntu> yeah
[03:50] <rhys-hynaws> Ubuntu... they had a shittycomputer, or they wereusing bad sources.
[03:50] <holycow> Ubuntico, never heard of that problem, what are his system specs?
[03:50] <Xanadu> raiz have u installed java? it's quite a mission
[03:50] <ubuntu> none of these...
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: The odds are its a hardware problem
[03:50] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Is it an x86 computer?
[03:50] <raiz> I'm not sure...
[03:50] <Xanadu> raiz: doesn't come standard with ubuntu
[03:51] <rhys-hynaws> Is anyone else having problems with Open Office--ubuntu-stable, and it freezing up often, especially when one clicks on a misspelled word?
[03:51] <ubuntu> that was a standard installation on a good computer :s
[03:51] <DonL> Xanadu, yes, I wish Java was easier to install
[03:51] <raiz> I did install some java stuff a while ago...
[03:51] <holycow> rhys-hynaws, not me :/
[03:51] <Lathiat> ubuntu: I recommend he hit escape at the ubuntu loading menu (its a count down before boot), and choose 'memtest86' and let that run for a few hours
[03:51] <Razor-X> Xanadu: tried it, but , no luck
[03:51] <raiz> So how did you do it?
[03:51] <Burgundavia> DonL, blame Sun
[03:51] <rhys-hynaws> holycow ty
[03:51] <Lathiat> ubuntu: If that doesn't work, they would need to join so I can try figure the problem out with them
[03:51] <mebaran151> anyone want to help me a fix a virtual printer device
[03:51] <holycow> DonL, its super easy, add reposityr, apt-get install java or whatever?
[03:51] <Xanadu> /usr/bin/java
[03:51] <mebaran151> it is not a task for the fait at heart
[03:51] <Razor-X> Lathiat: Ubuntu doesen't default hide boot menu
[03:52] <DonL> holycow, never saw that. The easiest I found was the unofficial Ubuntu
[03:52] <Lathiat> Razor-X: it does if you don't have windows installed
[03:52] <vigilanty> maybe I'm not asking my question correctly...  How am i to install the Ubuntu version of Opera?
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: Goto the ubuntu site
[03:52] <holycow> DonL, its on the website, 1.5 jre is now packaged for ubuntu
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: errr, opera site
[03:52] <vigilanty> ok
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: download the .deb debian package
[03:52] <ubuntu> you know, that person already installed gentoo, fedora and other distribution with success...
[03:52] <vigilanty> done
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: then as root in a console
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[03:52] <DonL> holycow, that's what I'm using, 1.5
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: you may need to, after that, run apt-get -f install
[03:52] <Lathiat> vigilanty: if it fails
[03:52] <Xanadu> raiz: do you want the java plugin for firefox or the whole jre or the sdk?
[03:52] <Razor-X> Lathiat: oh, woops ;-P
[03:53] <ubuntu> he was looking the distro that matches his needs...
[03:53] <raiz> jre
[03:53] <Razor-X> vigilanty: Ubuntu doesen't have Opera
[03:53] <vigilanty> unh hunh
[03:53] <raiz> I'm trying to get azureus to work.
[03:53] <Razor-X> but, Linux does ;-P
[03:53] <holycow> DonL, the general rule of thumb in debian world is wait a while, everything gets packaged eventually, and never use non packaged installation methods ... those can be tedious to clean up
[03:53] <Lathiat> ubuntu: It is unfortunate that is happening
[03:53] <ubuntu> simple to use, easy to maintain...
[03:53] <Razor-X> (i'm an Opera fan too, by the way)
[03:53] <DonL> anybody worried about the new flaws found in Firefox?
[03:53] <Lathiat> ubuntu: However, those sorts of problems can't be diagnosed with a simple description of "it crashes"
[03:53] <ubuntu> i know, one day, i experienced the same problem on mandrake lol
[03:53] <Burgundavia> DonL, not really
[03:53] <vigilanty> razor-X, there IS a version of opera available for dowload from the Opera website.
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: I would need mroe information, like where the CD came from, what they have done after install, what applications crash when doing what
[03:54] <DonL> I understand, holycow . Found out about unsupported installs
[03:54] <holycow> ubuntu, nothing simpler than ubuntu, but ... its hard to guess what the issue is without him either being here or someone having a looksee at the box
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: and then
[03:54] <Xanadu> raiz: for that you just need the jre plugin for firefox i think
[03:54] <raiz> And it seems to want something in /usr/java  it points me to the JRE 1.4.x
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: if i could help them live to get some extra information if i can't figure it out from that
[03:54] <Xanadu> raiz: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[03:54] <Razor-X> holycow: if I were to download a for Debian package, hsould it be for Sarge or Woody? (or Potato?)
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: its possible for example
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: they installed the 686 kernel on a non 686 machine
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: or something
[03:54] <raiz> That's what I've been working with...
[03:54] <Razor-X> vigilanty: hold on while I look up the specifics of Opera for Linux
[03:54] <Burgundavia> Razor-X, sid
[03:54] <mebaran151> I've gone a around the pkg manager before
[03:54] <Lathiat> ubuntu: many things are possible
[03:54] <ubuntu> have you never seen an application laoding in the window bar and never come in front of you to finally disapper :s
[03:54] <holycow> neither, ubuntu is unstable, your taking yoru chances either way
[03:54] <Razor-X> Burgundavia: ok
[03:54] <rhys-hynaws> Where is the 3rd Party applicationsprogram thigner?
[03:54] <mebaran151> use checkinstall normally
[03:54] <mebaran151> but somethings dont work out
[03:55] <Burgundavia> holycow, ubuntu is not unstable
[03:55] <Xanadu> raiz: did it instal lok?
[03:55] <holycow> Burgundavia, debian unstable ....
[03:55] <Xanadu> install ok even
[03:55] <Burgundavia> holycow, that is different
[03:55] <Razor-X> .....
[03:55] <holycow> yes, thats what i meant, typo
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: ubuntu is different
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: oh, right
[03:55] <ubuntu> lol
[03:55] <holycow> Lathiat, no, its debian unstable with minor modifications :)
[03:55] <ubuntu> exactly
[03:55] <batkins_> Lathiat: thanks, got it working
[03:55] <Lathiat> holycow: wrong
[03:55] <batkins_> Lathiat: synaptic is pretty cool
[03:55] <holycow> okay, prove it
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: It's based off a debian unstable snapshot
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: adn the core of the distro is heavily changed
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: and looked after it
[03:56] <DonL> synaptic rocks!
[03:56] <holycow> Lathiat, no
[03:56] <holycow> heh
[03:56] <Razor-X> vigilanty: are you using Ubuntu or Kbuntu?
[03:56] <holycow> "core" of the distro
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: core == main
[03:56] <holycow> that first of all means nothing
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: as opposed to universe, which is looked after less
[03:56] <Xanadu> can anyone tell me how to correctly patch the ubuntu kernel???
[03:56] <Burgundavia> holycow, Ubuntu is a delta of unstable
[03:56] <vigilanty> ubuntu
[03:56] <Lathiat> holycow: Alot of that work is original, for example Xorg, gnome
[03:56] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, why do you need to patch it?
[03:56] <holycow> Lathiat, heh, no, thats stupid, if it is heavily forked i'm going back to debian
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: does not mean it is unstable, that is simply debians terminolog
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: you misunderstand
[03:57] <Xanadu> burgundavia, cause i want to run two seperate keyboards for my two seperate Gnome sessions
[03:57] <DonL> holycow, I see it as being a stabilized debian
[03:57] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, ah
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: its very based off debian, and alot of universe is more or less a direct import bar some minor fixes to workw ith ubuntu
[03:57] <ubuntu> well thx for your help, the pb was resolved by choosing fedora, sorry you all here :s
[03:57] <rhys-hynaws> Who is using OO2 here?
[03:57] <Xanadu> burgundavia, apparently that means patching but i'd happily avoid that if possible
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: however in main, alot of stuff are done by ubuntu themselves, because that work is not done in debian
[03:57] <mebaran151> Xanadu, the Zen Linux project might be good for you
[03:57] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, never done it, sorry
[03:57] <holycow> *sigh*
[03:57] <mebaran151> or the patches for multihead
[03:57] <mdz> holycow: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view should explain adequately
[03:57] <Lathiat> holycow: for example ubuntu maintains Xorg, and a much more up to date gnome, faster
[03:58] <holycow> Lathiat, your being pedantic about the details
[03:58] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, Xen won't help him
[03:58] <mebaran151> if he had two kernels
[03:58] <holycow> the work is being put back into debian unstable
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: and keep in mind that alot of these changes are helped and pushed upstream to debian by the various developers
[03:58] <mebaran151> wouldnt they be pointable to different keyboards
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: No i am not
[03:58] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, xen is more than 2 kernels. It is 2 oses
[03:58] <ubuntu> have some people here already tried gentoo???
[03:58] <mebaran151> Yeah
[03:58] <mebaran151> I did
[03:58] <mebaran151> it wasnt any fun
[03:58] <DonL> Not me
[03:58] <holycow> Lathiat, i'll just stop talking right here, your pissing me off
[03:58] <mebaran151> four hours of compile errors
[03:58] <guruff> hey; i need a video chat soft that will work with something from windows world (not gnomemeeting) any ideas; i have searched net but somehow i can't see anything
[03:58] <ubuntu> and use it for long before choosing ubuntu?
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: Thats fine.
[03:58] <ubuntu> lol
[03:58] <Lathiat> holycow: good day.
[03:59] <tovella> ubuntu: I've tried gentoo.
[03:59] <rhys-hynaws> Who is using OO2 here? type: 33
[03:59] <mebaran151> gnome meeting should work
[03:59] <mebaran151> with windows of course
[03:59] <Xanadu> burgundavia, mebaran151 i've checked out some kernel patches (was trying to patch to the AC kernel) but for some reason my builds always fail in Ubuntu
[03:59] <mebaran151> yeah
[03:59] <ubuntu> what kind of linux users are you all?
[03:59] <mebaran151> I dont like kernel patching and such on Ubuntu
[03:59] <vigilanty> Lathiat, when i tried your advice for installing opera, this is what i got...
[03:59] <DonL> I had a windows freak over the other night who was extremely surprised by the speed and functionality of this young upstart linux thing
[04:00] <vigilanty> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:00] <vigilanty> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:00] <vigilanty>  opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[04:00] <mebaran151> I think that you should use probably a distor like Gentoo
[04:00] <mebaran151> or something
[04:00] <holycow> DonL, its not that young actually
[04:00] <holycow> some parts of it are, some arent
[04:00] <Xanadu> mebaran151 so basically i'm pretty screwed?
[04:00] <DonL> I know, but that was what he said
[04:00] <mebaran151> something that is really source based
[04:00] <DonL> or implied
[04:00] <mebaran151> you aren't pretty screwed
[04:00] <Burgundavia> vigilanty, did you append sudo in front of dpkg ?
[04:00] <Lathiat> vigilanty: hang on
[04:00] <mebaran151> it is just a lot of work
[04:00] <Lathiat> vigilanty: private messsage
[04:00] <holycow> DonL, yeah most people are only hearing about it now
[04:01] <mebaran151> where did you get your Kernel source
[04:01] <Xanadu> from apt
[04:01] <mebaran151> and did you make menuconfig correctly?
[04:01] <Xanadu> yup
[04:01] <Xanadu> works fine until i patch
[04:01] <DonL> holycow, it's been 5 years for me, and you?
[04:01] <mebaran151> you might have forgotten to enable agp or something
[04:01] <ubuntu> i can't believe your PCs boot up in less than 20s with the default kernel :s is it really true?!
[04:01] <mebaran151> mine does
[04:01] <Xanadu> was trying to patch for something else but my experience put me off patching ubuntu
[04:01] <mebaran151> I am on a AMD64 +3500 work station though
[04:01] <DonL> ubuntu, using gnome, yes
[04:01] <ubuntu> lol ok...
[04:01] <mebaran151> that patch probably was for something else
[04:02] <mebaran151> maybe a little buggy
[04:02] <DonL> When I used to use KDE, it was much longer
[04:02] <ubuntu> with much modprobes etc...
[04:02] <mebaran151> try a good one
[04:02] <mebaran151> my friend did it in Nepal
[04:02] <holycow> DonL, you got 3 on me :)
[04:02] <mebaran151> he was trying to save buget at the local school
[04:02] <Xanadu> yeah it was for support for the it8212 raid card, using the AC patch for Debian
[04:02] <holycow> <-- very much a newb still
[04:02] <mebaran151> becareful
[04:02] <mellinux> hey fellas, is is possible to play music off of a windows-formatted harddrive in linux? ubuntu uses a separate hard drive than the winXP one. any ideas
[04:02] <mellinux> ?
[04:02] <DonL> holycow, I'm still a newbie
[04:02] <mebaran151> Xanadu, Debian patches are not Ubuntu patches
[04:02] <Lathiat> mellinux: yes, you are able to mount your windows partitions
[04:02] <Xanadu> also tried some other patches (all for that card) but crashed and burnt
[04:02] <Lathiat> mellinux: hang on a second
[04:02] <holycow> mellinux, you can read files from ntfs, yes
[04:02] <mebaran151> the kernels are probably built with different options
[04:02] <mebaran151> and the sources are patched with other patches
[04:03] <ubuntu> do you all use apt?
[04:03] <mebaran151> so it is a mixed bag
[04:03] <mebaran151> well yes
[04:03] <Xanadu> mebaran151 where can i get clean ubuntu patches?
[04:03] <mebaran151> in the repoos
[04:03] <mebaran151> they are patches for about everything
[04:03] <Xanadu> repoos?
[04:03] <mebaran151> repos
[04:03] <mebaran151> on synaptic
[04:03] <Lathiat> repositories
[04:03] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, get the ubuntu kernel source, and patch that
[04:03] <mebaran151> haha
[04:03] <DonL> ubuntu, I think you have to use apt with Ubuntu, but that's great
[04:03] <Xanadu> i've looked thru all the patches on synaptic and haven't found what i need yet
[04:04] <DonL> Synaptic is just a gui for apt
[04:04] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, why would you not use apt?
[04:04] <ubuntu> have you ever been obliged to use source files to install sth?
[04:04] <Xanadu> burgundavia i've got the kernel source - that's what i'm patching
[04:04] <holycow> what is sth?
[04:04] <ubuntu> like when you have your own custom ubuntu based kernel?
[04:04] <ubuntu> something sorry
[04:04] <holycow> and no, i just package up an app if i need to
[04:04] <Xanadu> well trying to patch
[04:05] <Lathiat> mellinux: Please see private message
[04:05] <DonL> Xanadu, go to http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html and get some new repositories
[04:05] <Xanadu> got them all
[04:05] <DonL> Oh
[04:05] <Xanadu> and some extras ;)
[04:05] <DonL> Oh
[04:05] <Burgundavia> DonL, please don't recommend ubuntuguide.org, it is total crack
[04:05] <nubious> I set up another user on my ubuntu Hoary setup and I'm trying to allow them to log in locally, but it's saying "GDM could not write to your authorization files.  This could mean that you are out of disk space or that your home directory could not be opened for writing.  Please contact your sysadmin".  How do I go about fixing this?  Thing is, when I went to the Users and Groups settings in Gnome under MY Login, it gives me an error:
[04:06] <Xanadu> running kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 btw
[04:06] <ubuntu> well for someone who need to compile sources which packages in apt will he have install?
[04:06] <DonL> Sorry, Burgundavia . I've had really good luck with it. What would you suggest
[04:06] <ubuntu> like gcc, make automake...
[04:06] <Burgundavia> DonL, the wiki is better
[04:06] <Burgundavia> ubuntu, build-essential
[04:06] <Xanadu> ubuntu: build-essentials, gcc, your kernel sources, and your kernel headers are good
[04:07] <Burgundavia> Xanadu, build-essential will get gcc
[04:07] <Lathiat> Zambba: its build-essential
[04:07] <DonL> I really like the Wiki. Ok. That's what I'll recommend from now on
[04:07] <Lathiat> Xanadu: rather
[04:07] <shad0w1e> when I start up I get:
[04:07] <Xanadu> what did i say?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:07] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:07] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:07] <shad0w1e> /sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system
[04:07] <shad0w1e> /sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[04:07] <ubuntu> to compile, what is the minimum needed?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:07] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: Woops. What did you do before this happened?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> anyone know what could be my problem?
[04:07] <holycow> Lathiat, i just want to appologize for being rude earlier
[04:07] <nubious> ahhhh wtf
[04:07] <mebaran151> http://www.k12ltsp.org/contents.html
[04:07] <mebaran151> Xanadu
[04:07] <nubious> now it's saying my MAIN account is out of disk space
[04:07] <mebaran151> you might want to look into that
[04:07] <Lathiat> holycow: no problem, accepted.
[04:07] <nubious> uhmmm
[04:07] <mebaran151> it is meant for schools
[04:07] <nubious> any help?
[04:08] <mebaran151> but they set up for you
[04:08] <drcode> hi all
[04:08] <mebaran151> LTSP
[04:08] <Lathiat> holycow: appologies if what i said was offensive or something.
[04:08] <nubious> whats hte term command to check disk space?
[04:08] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I copied over my ubuntu system from an ext2 partition over to an xfs partition on a new drive, and installed GRUB
[04:08] <ubuntu> ok thx, i see...
[04:08] <rhys-hynaws> Polling: If you are using Open Office 2, type 33.
[04:08] <drcode> any on know a channel where I can ask qustions about vcd tools?
[04:08] <holycow> Lathiat, naw i was just rude, i still invest my self in my arguments sometimes and its not productive
[04:08] <family> Hey
[04:08] <ubuntu> latest ubuntu release provides a gnome 2.10 desktop?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: oh umm
[04:09] <family> does anyone have the Automated Startup Script, the download link is broken
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: how did you copy
[04:09] <nibblesmx> ubuntu, yes
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: its possible you didnt copy it right.. (sounds like it to me)
[04:09] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: many differenet ways
[04:09] <ubuntu> ok, thx!!!
[04:09] <Xanadu> mebaran151, two problems with that: 1) it's not ubuntu, and 2) i want to learn to do it myself
[04:09] <shad0w1e> all didnt work
[04:09] <mebaran151> http://www.linux.com/howtos/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/ind_keyboards.shtml
[04:09] <shad0w1e> ill get it for you..
[04:09] <nubious> anyone?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: because you need a number of flags to cp to get it right
[04:09] <nubious> no one?
[04:09] <foxiness> hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd -> how can i put this on startup :its need su to do it : , am try this on sessions but i think "becuse su need not work", any idea ?
[04:09] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it may be easier to just reinstall, and copy your home partition accross.
[04:10] <darkaudit> foxiness: it goes in /etc/hdparm.conf
[04:10] <Xanadu> mebaran151, been through the XFree guide but i inevitably get to the "patch your kernel" part
[04:10] <mebaran151> you have to build Xserver from scratch
[04:10] <Deffie> good night everyone
[04:10] <neoliminal> Hi.  I keep having kernel panics.  How should I diagnose the problem?
[04:10] <mebaran151> which is going to be a royal pain
[04:10] <Xanadu> mebaran151 oi vey
[04:10] <Lathiat> neoliminal: You need to explain the problem more clearly
[04:10] <mebaran151> because you probably need to patch that
[04:10] <Lathiat> neoliminal: Like, what you do to dmak eit kernel panic
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: and what is displayed on the console when it happens
[04:11] <neoliminal> On boot up, the process ends with a kernal panic.
[04:11] <mebaran151> http://karlovo.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/ruby-contrib/how-to/XFree_local_multi-user-HOWTO/index.html
[04:11] <mebaran151> this shoudl do it
[04:11] <Lathiat> mebaran151: is this for multi-person stuff?
[04:11] <neoliminal> Hmm... how should I record the kernel panic... I can't cut and paste it.
[04:11] <foxiness> dark,are u sure ? i think this setting for hdparm > command
[04:11] <Lathiat> mebaran151: i beleive the ubuntu xorg already has some support for that
[04:11] <Xanadu> mebaran151 backstreet ruby is a patch too
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: start typing ;)
[04:11] <Lathiat> neoliminal: not in here, use pastebin.com
[04:12] <ubuntu> well, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...
[04:12] <Lathiat> neoliminal: or message to me in private
[04:12] <family> Hey, does anyone have the Automated Startup scripy?
[04:12] <darkaudit> mebaran151: install expert mode allows for a multi-sest install...
[04:12] <neoliminal> ok, I have to log off to get and write down the info...  it's a dual boot.
[04:12] <family> script*
[04:12] <neoliminal> back in a few minutes.
[04:12] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"
[04:12] <ih8evil> I'm trying to get IE to work under wine, and I can't seem to get it to work
[04:12] <ubuntu> well, i'd ask that last time, DID SOME OF YOU HAD AN APPLICATION THAT LOADED IN THE WINDOW BAR AND NEVER COME TO FRONT BUT OTHER APPLICATIONS RUN WELL...
[04:12] <mebaran151> darkaudit, but with two keybyds
[04:12] <mebaran151> that would be weird
[04:12] <holycow> ubuntu, no, you have that problem? with what application?
[04:12] <Xanadu> darkaudit: has anyone survived an expert mode install?
[04:12] <darkaudit> ih8evil: unclean! unclean! ;)
[04:12] <holycow> ubuntu, and stop yelling
[04:13] <mebaran151> darkaudit, it cant
[04:13] <ubuntu> not me, a friend of mine with mozilla...
[04:13] <ubuntu> then firefox :s
[04:13] <mebaran151> they havent implemented it in Xorg yet
[04:13] <ubuntu> but installed with apt-get
[04:13] <mebaran151> and the code still is written
[04:13] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I know, I'mtrying to get LaunchCast to work
[04:13] <holycow> ubuntu, i don't even know what that question means? explain?
[04:13] <ubuntu> si dep were respected
[04:13] <mebaran151> Linux console code is still not designed for more than two keyboards
[04:13] <darkaudit> Xanadu: I came close... but there were unrelated screwups that botched that...
[04:14] <mebaran151> darkaudit, I did one
[04:14] <mebaran151> it wasnt THAT hard
[04:14] <mebaran151> I did it back when they called it custom or whatever
[04:14] <ih8evil> Does anyone know how to run IE under wine? I can't seem to get it to work.
[04:14] <Xanadu> mebaran151 i'm 99% of the way there so there is some stuff in xorg for multiusers - i've got two completely seperate sessions running with seperate screens and mice
[04:14] <ubuntu> you click on the application launcher then you see a new tab in the window bar...
[04:14] <ubuntu> but then, nothing...
[04:14] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sidenet
[04:14] <nubious> sweet
[04:14] <ubuntu> it disappears...
[04:14] <nubious> my setup is botched
[04:14] <nubious> hrm
[04:14] <holycow> ih8evil, don't bother, try crossover office
[04:14] <nubious> apparently my hard drive is full
[04:15] <nubious> which I know to be not true, but I can't login to gnome now
[04:15] <raiz> How can I reboot through the terminal?
[04:15] <ubuntu> both mozilla and firefox did that :s
[04:15] <nubious> raiz: sudo reboot
[04:15] <raiz> Thanks
[04:15] <nubious> n/p
[04:15] <ih8evil> holycow, doesn't that cost money?
[04:15] <holycow> ubuntu, that just means its crashing
[04:15] <Xanadu> nubious try empty your .Trash folders
[04:15] <holycow> ih8evil, yes, but it works
[04:15] <ubuntu> yes exactly! you've got the word :d
[04:15] <mebaran151> http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/
[04:15] <ih8evil> holycow, I have $2.03
[04:15] <mebaran151> Xanadu that might handle it
[04:15] <holycow> ubuntu, has he tried reinstalling?
[04:15] <Xanadu> nubious i keep forgetting about that and ending up with piles of junk
[04:16] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sidenet has a wine config script that will install IE
[04:16] <stuNNed> ih8evil: lol
[04:16] <mebaran151> dll the pkg
[04:16] <mebaran151> and see if it works
[04:16] <mebaran151> if it does
[04:16] <mebaran151> maybe try to do it right and compile it yourself
[04:16] <ubuntu> no, that experience finished him lol
[04:16] <ih8evil> darkaudit, what is sidenet? do I need to download it? (I'm a n00b)
[04:16] <holycow> ih8evil, ah! *ummm* all i can tell you is that i have not had much luck running anything under wine, it works for a while, i upgrade and things to wacky :/ it's not the wine devs problem its just that development is happening all the time
[04:17] <ubuntu> but there are more and more ubuntu users, i'm getting some info here :d
[04:17] <Xanadu> sheesh which one?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:17] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:17] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:17] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:17] <darkaudit> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: Did you pate what commands you used to copy?
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: as i said
[04:17] <ubuntu> are you all on ubuntu in here?
[04:17] <shad0w1e> Starting Ubuntu...
[04:17] <shad0w1e> VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hde1
[04:17] <shad0w1e> cramfs: wrong magic
[04:17] <shad0w1e> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[04:17] <holycow> ubuntu thats fine, if he is happy with a virus ridden, crappy os, that crashes all the time it self cool
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it would probably be easiest to reinstall, and copy your data accross
[04:17] <shad0w1e> sorry
[04:17] <shad0w1e> yes I did
[04:17] <shad0w1e>  sudo sh -c "find ./ -xdev -print0 | cpio -pa0V /mnt/hdb1"
[04:17] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: can you say again? sorry i missed it
[04:17] <ubuntu> no, he chose fedora :d
[04:17] <holycow> ubuntu if they can't handle a single app misfiring, they really should stick with ms
[04:18] <holycow> ubuntu, rofl, oh he'll be back then
[04:18] <holycow> nothing works on fedora
[04:18] <lampshade> so for people using azeurus, was that just like a manual install or what?
[04:18] <ubuntu> he handle gentoo very well for months...
[04:18] <holycow> especially software installation
[04:18] <holycow> hehe :)
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: hrmmm
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: i have no idea how well or bad that works
[04:18] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: but not too well apparently
[04:18] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I noticed that when you install Ubuntu using xfs on your linux partition, it uses LILO. I'm using GRUB...
[04:19] <ubuntu> but got bored to configure kernel when he got a knew pc :s
[04:19] <darkaudit> lampshade: just upack the archive into something like ~/azureus and then run ~/azureus/./azureus
[04:19] <mebaran151> GRUB doesnt handle XFS too well yet
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: yeh it does that because grub and xfs is a bit ugly
[04:19] <mebaran151> I dont why you would want XFS
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: however, your problem is not that
[04:19] <shad0w1e> you sure?
[04:19] <ubuntu> personnally, i think fedora is a good polyvalent distro :D
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: youve missed some files in /dev or not updated your /etc/fstab correctly
[04:19] <shad0w1e> _ /sbin/init: 428: cannot create /dev/null: Read-only file system
[04:19] <shad0w1e> _ /sbin/init: 429: cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[04:19] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: did you edit your /etc/fstab?
[04:20] <shad0w1e> there. I didnt pase those two lines before. I get those two errors as well on startop
[04:20] <ubuntu> yum is the equivalent of apt there...
[04:20] <GTswagger> Putting Ubuntu on my g/f's laptop... but need to know how to become root in Ubuntu...   what do I do?
[04:20] <shad0w1e> of course!
[04:20] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: need to change what is loaded to / and change its file system type
[04:20] <Xanadu> GTswagger: su -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> GTswagger, sudo
[04:20] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: I changed it to xfs
[04:20] <Xanadu> i mean sudo -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> if you want a REAL root
[04:20] <shad0w1e> from ext2
[04:20] <Xanadu> soz
[04:20] <mebaran151> in sudo -s
[04:20] <mebaran151> type passwd
[04:20] <mebaran151> and you can set a a root password
[04:20] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: did you change the hda1 to, whatever
[04:20] <GTswagger> awesome -- one sec
[04:20] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: yes
[04:20] <ubuntu> gentoo got its emerge which is a very good concept, taking sources and compile them instead of dezipping an archive :s
[04:20] <shad0w1e> hde1
[04:21] <mebaran151> otherwise it gives the local user the power to do root actions upon entry of his pword
[04:21] <shad0w1e> I also changed it in the menu.lst argument that is passed to linux
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: then uh, i have no idea, it looks like the copy command didnt get everything
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: do you still have your old partition?
[04:21] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I'm REALLY new to Linux, and I don't know what's going on. You think you could help guide me through this?
[04:21] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: yes, on another drive
[04:21] <shad0w1e> do you suggest I do it again?
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: it might be easiest to reinstall ubuntu on your new partition, and then copy your data accross
[04:21] <ubuntu> well, none of you experienced the problem i enounced, i'll tell my friend to try ubuntu another time :D
[04:21] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: to save messing around all afternoon
[04:21] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: By data, do you mean home directories?
[04:21] <holycow> ubuntu, if he used gentoo, and couldn't figure out how to fix firefox on ubuntu ..... don't bother worying yoru self about that dude
[04:21] <shad0w1e> cause theres a lot more than that...
[04:22] <Lathiat> shad0w1e: yes
[04:22] <darkaudit> ih8evil: another option is installing and running winetools. It's more step-by-step.
[04:22] <GTswagger> ggrrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:22] <GTswagger> As root, # modprobe ndiswrapper keeps returning permission denied... it's 644 on ndiswrapper.ko
[04:22] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, where do I do that?
[04:23] <shad0w1e> okay screw it , I'll reinstall....
[04:23] <shad0w1e> Lathiat: Thanks, though
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: his problem is likely either bad hardware (ram, etc, that can be testedby choosing memtest from the boot menu)
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: or, he did something with his system
[04:23] <Lathiat> ubuntu: which was bad
[04:23] <ubuntu> no, i didn't mean to fix the issue, jsut, to know if ubuntu was the responsible...
[04:23] <mebaran151> sounds like a system
[04:23] <mebaran151> thing
[04:23] <mebaran151> sounds like someone destoryed the initrd
[04:23] <ubuntu> what if everyone knew that problem....
[04:23] <mebaran151> or something
[04:23] <Xanadu> mebaran151 i've downloaded kernel-image-2.6.0-ruby-athlon_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[04:23] <mebaran151> ok
[04:23] <Xanadu> gonna try install it
[04:23] <Xanadu> wish me luck!
[04:23] <Lathiat> Xanadu: uh, ou really dont want that
[04:23] <mebaran151> try dpkg -i as root
[04:23] <mebaran151> ok
[04:23] <Lathiat> Xanadu: thats terribly old
[04:24] <Lathiat> Xanadu: and possibly wont work very well
[04:24] <mebaran151> heheh
[04:24] <Xanadu> hmm
[04:24] <mebaran151> what would be better Lathiat
[04:24] <mebaran151> Ruby is done with their work yet
[04:24] <Lathiat> mebaran151: What is he trying to do
[04:24] <mebaran151> he wants two keyboards
[04:24] <mebaran151> and two mice
[04:24] <mebaran151> on one computer
[04:24] <Lathiat> for two X servers?
[04:24] <Xanadu> got the two mice
[04:24] <Xanadu> lathiat yeah
[04:24] <mebaran151> two seperate but equal X  Servers
[04:24] <Lathiat> right
[04:24] <mebaran151> two mice is not heard
[04:24] <Xanadu> got everything except 2 keyboards
[04:24] <Lathiat> ubuntu has some support for that
[04:24] <drcode> any one know channel about vcd tools here in freenode?
[04:25] <mebaran151> I sound like Plessy vs. Feurgeuson
[04:25] <Lathiat> let me check hangon
[04:25] <GTswagger> Any ideas why #modprobe ndiswrapper returns operation not permitted as root??
[04:25] <drcode> I want to know if I Can put sub title into mpeg
[04:25] <ubuntu> someone uses totem?
[04:25] <mebaran151> you cant
[04:25] <Xanadu> ok whats the concensus - i shouldn't install this deb?
[04:25] <ubuntu> based on gstreamer?
[04:25] <Lathiat> Xanadu: how are the keyboards connected?
[04:25] <Lathiat> ubuntu: yeh
[04:25] <bloggernauta> i dont know the default password for root, please someone help me :)
[04:25] <mebaran151> you cant put a sub title in mpeg
[04:25] <Xanadu> one thru ps2 and one through usb
[04:25] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: there is no default root pass
[04:25] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: second, getting url
[04:25] <ubuntu> can you play dvds?
[04:25] <darkaudit> ih8evil: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/winetools_2.1.1-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[04:25] <mebaran151> I tried
[04:26] <bloggernauta> ow man
[04:26] <bloggernauta> i need this to configure my machine
[04:26] <darkaudit> easier to just dl this than to go mucking about with your sources.list
[04:26] <ubuntu> how to play wmv?
[04:26] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: run 'sudo su'
[04:26] <mebaran151> bloggernauta use sudo s
[04:26] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: to get root
[04:26] <drcode> If U put in sources.list the wine deb server , It will also download winetools
[04:26] <darkaudit> ubuntu: w32codecs package
[04:26] <Xanadu> lathiat i was going to try two through ps2 but i think that's a bit hard-core for now
[04:26] <mebaran151> why not do both usb
[04:26] <qwm> where can i find the ubuntu-calendar package?
[04:26] <Lathiat> Xanadu: yeh umm, im not sure how to do this stuff specifically, do you need a kernel patch?
[04:27] <mebaran151> that would probably be easier
[04:27] <mebaran151> yeah you do
[04:27] <mebaran151> you need Ruby
[04:27] <ubuntu> all of you using sudo, why not do sudo passwd and log as root...
[04:27] <bloggernauta> how can i have access to super user configs if root don't have a pass
[04:27] <Xanadu> i'm running out of usb keyboards ;)
[04:27] <mebaran151> you can wrap in a library
[04:27] <Lathiat> ubuntu: Because there is no need to
[04:27] <ubuntu> can i get it on apt?
[04:27] <mebaran151> probably
[04:27] <Lathiat> ubuntu: w32codecs?
[04:27] <ubuntu> yep
[04:27] <mello> Lathiat: hey
[04:27] <bloggernauta> but here on my machine the system ask for a pass
[04:27] <Xanadu> is there no way to seperate the keyboards on the hotplug side of things?
[04:28] <ubuntu> is it an rpm?
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: hey
[04:28] <mello> Lathiat: i've booted ubuntu
[04:28] <ubuntu> :d
[04:28] <darkaudit> ubuntu: it's in backports, Marillat, or Cerkinfo repos
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: o, hang on a second
[04:28] <mello> k
[04:28] <Nalioth> howdy
[04:28] <bloggernauta> i used de sudo command and nothing different happens
[04:28] <Nalioth> dagnabit it's been a long workday
[04:28] <Lathiat> mello: run "cat /proc/partitions" and paste to me in private
[04:28] <Xanadu> bloggernauta what were u expecting?
[04:29] <JDahl> Have anyone here had problems with random lock-ups on Ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex? I've had to powercycle my machine a few times - I can ping it from another host, but not ssh to it or anything. I think it has to do with a ATAPI CD-ROM errors and humongous time-outs
[04:29] <bloggernauta> :S
[04:29] <ih8evil> darkaudit, alright, time for me to show how much of a noob I am. Two files: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and a file(?) debian-binary. what do I do here?
[04:29] <bloggernauta> i need to configure my lan
[04:29] <mebaran151> Xanadu, the problem I think is that keybd code
[04:29] <bloggernauta> but i need the super user pass
[04:29] <mebaran151> is very kernel intensive
[04:29] <mebaran151> and is loaded quite early
[04:29] <bloggernauta> and i haven't becaus my pass dont work
[04:29] <synd> can anyone help me figure out why my CD Player is skipping when playing CDs?
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: how are you tryign to configure your LAN
[04:29] <blake> hellow
[04:29] <mebaran151> it is not really controlled by hotplug
[04:29] <neoliminal> ok, so now I can't make it crash.
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: most things on ubuntu ask you to enter our password
[04:29] <bloggernauta> by the common way
[04:29] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: the same one you login with
[04:30] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: *your passwor
[04:30] <Lathiat> d
[04:30] <bloggernauta> i see
[04:30] <hp> what happened with the root password?
[04:30] <darkaudit> ih8evil: you want to just dl it to your home dir, then run sudo dpkg -i (whatever the filename is)
[04:30] <Nalioth> synd how old is the CD drive?
[04:30] <IIIEars> Welcome fellow new Ubuntu users (((HUG))) - lol
[04:30] <darkaudit> you don't need to unpack it
[04:30] <darkaudit> IIIEars!
[04:30] <bloggernauta> but my password dont work
[04:30] <blake> ..............so i mounted my ntfs hard drive and now it says i do not have permittion to acess the drive .............can anyone tel me how to fix that?????
[04:30] <Xanadu> IIIEars does that mean u're a new Ubuntu user?
[04:30] <ubuntu> thank you all bye!!!
[04:31] <mebaran151> blake it is a root thing
[04:31] <mebaran151> I forgot what you add
[04:31] <blake> i was in root
[04:31] <mebaran151> yeah
[04:31] <IIIEars> nah i am a seasoned newb - 2 full weeks - roflmao
[04:31] <mebaran151> whatever mounts it
[04:31] <synd> Nalioth, a couple years. its a Asus 48x!6x48
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: add ,uid=1000
[04:31] <mebaran151> whoever mounts
[04:31] <Nalioth> synd, do you dual boot?
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: to the options in /etc/fstab
[04:31] <mebaran151> gets only the access
[04:31] <Lathiat> blake: usually after 'defaults'
[04:31] <bloggernauta> how you do this blake
[04:31] <synd> Nalioth, no, not anymore
[04:31] <Xanadu> blake put something like this in your fstab: /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      0
[04:31] <blake> how do i unmount the dard drive
[04:32] <neoliminal> where can I find information about the last crash I had?
[04:32] <Xanadu> blake: umount /mnt/C (or wherever u mounted it)
[04:32] <darkaudit> Nalioth: now, now... this is a family channel ;)
[04:32] <Nalioth> synd, was just wonderin if it worked under another OS, have you booted with knoppix/other live cd and checked function?
[04:32] <blake> i tryed ther
[04:32] <blake> that
[04:32] <neoliminal> is there a corefile?
[04:32] <Xanadu> with sudo
[04:32] <blake> but let me try again
[04:32] <Xanadu> blake with sudo
[04:33] <bloggernauta> give me the command line of sudo
[04:33] <synd> Nalioth, its worked on another OS, i used it with windows and it worked fine. got rid of windows after i got into ubuntu
[04:33] <neoliminal> When you have a kernel panic, is there log file to look at?
[04:33] <Xanadu> bloggernauta: sudo -s
[04:33] <sbcl3> where can I chose a different gnome splash screen? I hate the ubuntu brown.
[04:33] <bloggernauta> thanks
[04:33] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I get this error: " winetools depends on xdialog; however: Package xdialog is not installed. winetools depends on gtk-smooth-themes; however: Package gtk-smooth-themes is not installed. dpkg: error processing winetools (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: winetools"
[04:33] <blake> what does sudo stand for
[04:33] <synd> Nalioth, the same similar skipping happens with my laptop when playing a CD. both CD players worked fine when i was using Warty, but when i upped to Hoary, they started this skipping
[04:33] <Xanadu> super user something something
[04:34] <neoliminal> su stands for "super user"
[04:34] <neoliminal> the do stands for .. um  .. do
[04:34] <Xanadu> lol
[04:34] <IIIEars> Ubuntu Linux is the Darndest thing. - Windows locks up at least once a day. - it never happens anymore. is my computer "On"?
[04:34] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sudo apt-get install (those files)
[04:34] <synd> IIIEars, ?
[04:34] <Nalioth> synd, guess you covered all the bases, i'm at this point, lost.
[04:34] <sbcl3> anyone know where the gnome splash screens are managed?
[04:34] <neoliminal> Does anyone know if kernel panics save a log file?
[04:34] <darkaudit> then retry the dpkg -i
[04:34] <bloggernauta> someone knows how to create a home network (broadband) with linux
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, i tried the turning on DMA.. but no use
[04:35] <bloggernauta> more or less 3 machines
[04:35] <levander> are there any irc clients that support both the yahoo and irc protocols besides gaim?
[04:35] <darkaudit> apt-get will get the dependencies. dpkg will not
[04:35] <Nalioth> synd, we have surpassed the extent of my knowledge
[04:35] <IIIEars> J/k - i can't even break Ubuntu using Synaptic multiple package redos make it very tough indeed. - lol
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, how do i check where my cdrom is actually located?
[04:35] <levander> and, is it the general opinion that x-chat is better than gaim for irc?
[04:35] <blake> it says unmount command not found
[04:35] <synd> Nalioth, like is it /dev/cdrom?
[04:35] <Lathiat> blake: its umount, not unmount (no n)
[04:35] <Nalioth> synd issue the "mount" command all by itself
[04:35] <Lathiat> levander: most people find x-chat better
[04:36] <bloggernauta> ?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: but what ever works for you...
[04:36] <Xanadu> IIIEars I have managed to break Synaptic unrecoverably. It now gives me constant errors. It is impossible to fix. I am very proud of myself
[04:36] <Lathiat> Xanadu: Haha good work. what are the errors?
[04:36] <levander> Lathiat: but x-chat doesn't support yahoo protocol?
[04:36] <Lathiat> Xanadu: you may simple need to run reload
[04:36] <psychonate> levander, There is something called bitlbee that allows you to use many IM protocols in any IRC client, but it's sort of weird.
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: no, x-chat is only for IRC
[04:36] <blake> ok thanks
[04:36] <synd> Nalioth, i see nothing that refers to the cdrom..?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: gaim is the better thing to use for instant messanging
[04:36] <IIIEars> rofl - okay i'll keep trying.
[04:36] <levander> Lathiat: am just getting frustrated with a few "quirks" of gaim
[04:36] <Xanadu> Lathiat it's all about Webmin or something
[04:36] <blake> where's that commnad that you sugested
[04:36] <sbcl3> anyone know where gnome's splash screen is kept?
[04:36] <Lathiat> levander: such sa?
[04:36] <blake> the drive is hdb1
[04:36] <Xanadu> Lathiat really nothing will fix it
[04:36] <sproingie> howdy.  anyone have tips on how to add debian experimental to sources.list?
[04:36] <nate____> does ssh use only TCP, or does it use UDP too?
[04:36] <Lathiat> sbcl3: yeh.. hangon
[04:37] <blake> and the location is /mnt/music
[04:37] <sproingie> tried adding it and pinning it low priority, but I get GPG errors
[04:37] <Lathiat> sbcl3: did you just want to change it?
[04:37] <sbcl3> yes
[04:37] <sproingie> W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D
[04:37] <Xanadu> To trash Synaptic: install PHP and Webmin
[04:37] <bloggernauta> someone knows?
[04:37] <darkaudit> sproingie: why?
[04:37] <Nalioth> synd i believe the hardware is located at /dev/cdrom, but ubuntue maps it to your system at /media (when something is loaded)
[04:37] <Xanadu> then download the PHP sources
[04:37] <bloggernauta> how to do a home network
[04:37] <sproingie> darkaudit: why do i want them?  because i need ghc-6.4, which isn't in breezy
[04:37] <Xanadu> then install them over your current version
[04:37] <bloggernauta> a gateway to internet
[04:37] <bloggernauta> like windows xp does
[04:37] <Xanadu> then delete your current php version manually
[04:37] <Lathiat> Xanadu: why the hell are you doing that
[04:37] <psychonate> nate____, a little trick: 'grep ssh /etc/servies'
[04:37] <Xanadu> then install PHP5 from source
[04:37] <nate____> psychonate: thanks
[04:37] <Lathiat> sproingie: umm, dude, why are you adding debian sources
[04:37] <Lathiat> sproingie: thats baddd
[04:38] <Lathiat> sproingie: what are you looking for?
[04:38] <bloggernauta> if someone knows call me in pvt please
[04:38] <psychonate> nate____, services*
[04:38] <IIIEars> xanadu - nice tip thanks - a webserver was my next project - i promise to be careful.
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: yeh
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: install the package
[04:38] <Lathiat> bloggernauta: 'firestarter'
[04:38] <bloggernauta> how i do this?
[04:38] <Xanadu> Lathiat the php versions on apt were just too old and had one particular bug that happened to be fired off by one of my programs
[04:38] <blake> : /dev/sda1       /mnt/C          ntfs    ro,user,gid=100,umask=0222      0      0
[04:38] <sproingie> Lathiat: just said.  ghc-6.4
[04:38] <levander> Lathiat: one, the interface is wierd.  There's a "Buddy List" that list all your buddies on the networks you've logged onto.  To log onto a network, there are like four buttons you gotta click around to find to log onto a network.  Why they don't just put all networks in that list, then you click on a network to logon, when you log on, the list expands and shows all your buddies that network... Something like that.  There are just places w
[04:38] <Lathiat> Xanadu: oh, right
[04:38] <darkaudit> sproingie: there are obscure tricks to getting experimental to work with apt. They've made it intentionally difficult to get to...
[04:38] <mebaran151> anybody here
[04:38] <blake> what does fstab stand for
[04:38] <mebaran151> crimsun anyone
[04:39] <Lathiat> levander: i just use autologin and they alll login on tstart
[04:39] <sproingie> darkaudit: actually it doesn't even work for sid
[04:39] <mebaran151> who would like to fix my virtual devices
[04:39] <levander> Lathiat: and don't some IRC clients have buttons setup for you to press to go "invisible" in IRC?
[04:39] <Xanadu> mebaran151 whats wrong with them?
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: ghc is in the universe archive
[04:39] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I installed those files, attempted to 'dpkg' again, and got the same errors.
[04:39] <mebaran151> oh
[04:39] <sproingie> Lathiat: ghc-6.2 is in universe
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: or did you specifically need 6.4 as opposed to 6.2 ?
[04:39] <IIIEars> maybe considering making a bootable iso server instead of a Hard drive install
[04:39] <mebaran151> my printer virtual device
[04:39] <blake> what does fstab stand for ....anyone
[04:39] <sproingie> Lathiat: 6.4, specifically.  it's for pugs
[04:39] <darkaudit> hmm...
[04:39] <psychonate> file system tab or something?
[04:39] <Lathiat> sproingie: oh, umm
[04:39] <levander> Lathiat: yeah, but I got about eight networks, 6 of them i rarely log onto
[04:39] <mebaran151> on usb:// is not set up correctly
[04:40] <blake> ook
[04:40] <blake> ok
[04:40] <bloggernauta> how can i install the firestarter?
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: well ignore those errors
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: install ghc
[04:40] <darkaudit> ih8evil: ok, then... you're runnin hoary?
[04:40] <Lathiat> sproingie: but then take that source back out immediately before you do anything else
[04:40] <ih8evil> darkaudit, yeah
[04:40] <Xanadu> blake: static information about the filesystems
[04:40] <psychonate> or file system table? hell if I know
[04:40] <ih8evil> darkaudit, oh, wait, it seems like I got errors when installing those
[04:40] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - add "universe" to the list of repositories in synaptic and search firestarter.
[04:40] <Lathiat> psychonate: fstab is file system tab yeh
[04:40] <psychonate> yays
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <blake> how do i get to fstab???
[04:41] <oon_> :)
[04:41] <psychonate> the aterm included in Ubuntu is too old
[04:41] <Xanadu> you got fstab
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: add these lines: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:41] <Nalioth> blake ubuntuforums.org
[04:41] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - logging out then back in adds makes it run without a terminal window open.
[04:41] <Xanadu> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:41] <Nalioth> blake ubuntulinux.org see the wiki
[04:41] <darkaudit> ih8evil: and: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:42] <bloggernauta> please repeat the thing of universe
[04:42] <bloggernauta> i search for and do what?
[04:42] <Lathiat> darkaudit: what is he trying to install?
[04:42] <sproingie> Lathiat: i can't ignore the errors, it doesn't appear that it will actually update
[04:42] <darkaudit> Lathiat: winetools
[04:42] <Lathiat> sproingie: it will, its just whinging about gpg
[04:42] <Lathiat> darkaudit: bleh, ok
[04:42] <Lathiat> sproingie: it should be ignorable
[04:42] <psychonate> It was a pain in the bum bum to get one that could go borderless.
[04:42] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - while you have synaptic and "Universe enabled check out "Torsmo" system monitor it is amazing.
[04:42] <psychonate> torsmo :)
[04:43] <Xanadu> fstab officially stands for "file system table"
[04:43] <sproingie> Lathiat: ah, so it is.  actually it doesnt seem to work at all for experimental, but it does ok for unstable.  weird.
[04:43] <ih8evil> darkaudit, ok, I added those, saved, and closed
[04:43] <psychonate> Xanadu, That was my second guess up top :)
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: so just install ghc, but please remove that source after
[04:43] <bloggernauta> how man i don't understand nothing
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: otherwise your system will di ehorribly
[04:43] <Xanadu> 10 points psychonate
[04:43] <Lathiat> sproingie: and dont run upgrade ! :)
[04:43] <darkaudit> ih8evil: run synaptic and hit 'reload' (it's the same as apt-get update)
[04:43] <Xanadu> i just looked online - i'm too stupid to guess
[04:43] <psychonate> IIIEars, I don't like how torsmo "flicks" in and out though (I guess when it's updating)
[04:43] <bloggernauta> please call me in pvt i can't read that much, i'm a brazilian and don't understand too much
[04:44] <darkaudit> ih8evil: you'll get some errors when it starts, but it's safe to ignore them
[04:44] <Nalioth> IIIEars, torsmo didnt work for me
[04:44] <sproingie> Lathiat: i thought if i pinned it down to low level it would be ok.  but i'll take your advice
[04:44] <Xanadu> does anyone here actually work on ubuntu officially?
[04:44] <Nalioth> IIIEars, threw strange errors and wouldnt start
[04:44] <IIIEars> ibloggernauta - open synaptic - open the title bar "repositories" on the list that opens put a check mark in the "Universe" community supported libraries.
[04:44] <Lathiat> sproingie: yeh taht could work, but its generally bad
[04:44] <sproingie> aw yah there's ghc 6.4
[04:45] <sproingie> now to get to work on darcs and pugc
[04:45] <Lathiat> sproingie: woo :)
[04:45] <sproingie> pugs
[04:45] <IIIEars> nalioth - ugh - i wish i had those errors i might of been able to help.
[04:45] <revelater> how do i start the cups server again?
[04:45] <Nalioth> IIIEars, installed via apt
[04:45] <ih8evil> darkaudit, I hit reload, saw a status bar come and go. now what?
[04:45] <darkaudit> ih8evil: once it's finished updating the lists, winetools should be listed under 'new in repository'
[04:46] <IIIEars> ah - i am a linux wimp - used synaptic - though it shouldn't make a difference though should it?
[04:46] <Geezer041> Would somebody be able to help me install Firefox extensions? Noobie!!
[04:46] <darkaudit> if not, do a search for 'winetools' and install it...
[04:46] <Xanadu> Geezer041 what extensions?
[04:46] <Geezer041> not sure - flashgot
[04:46] <Geezer041> i want others too
[04:47] <Xanadu> Geezer041 click on Tools/Extensions/Get more extensions in firefox
[04:47] <Geezer041> yes, have done
[04:47] <mello> Lathiat: do you think you could help one of my friends out with the same problem?
[04:47] <Xanadu> right now pick which ones you want and click on 'em
[04:47] <Geezer041> downloaded flashgot and in xp it auto installs them
[04:47] <mello> one of our "leet" friends just showed us ubuntu
[04:47] <mello> we're newbs
[04:47] <ih8evil> darkaudit, um, where is 'new is repository'? I see winetools in the large list with a red square next to it
[04:48] <IIIEars> bloggernauta - still there? - how is it going?
[04:48] <Xanadu> Geezer041 so what's the prob?
[04:48] <Lathiat> mello: sure
[04:48] <darkaudit> ih8evil: right click on it and tell it to reinstall
[04:48] <Xanadu> Geezer041 just close and reopen firefox and they should be up & running
[04:48] <mello> sweet, he's coming
[04:48] <Geezer041> OK