[04:13] <kisuke> modulle backlists are ususally in /etc/modprobe.d/ right?
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> !blacklists | kisuke
[04:14] <jeremy77> I just did fresh install ubuntu 10.04 64 bit and just have a couple things I need help on.  I have my num lock set on in bios but it shuts off at log in screen and I need to set up ati graphics card.  guess I will start with num lock. how do I get ubuntu to leave num lock on at boot instead of shutting it off?
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> !blacklist | kisuke
[04:15] <natex> surfereddie: you can see what is installed with dpkg -l
[04:15] <kisuke> ZykoticK9: close enough, thanks.
[04:15] <natex> surfereddie: filter that with dpkg -l | grep nx
[04:15] <cornwallis_> anyone know how to simulate the "next song" button by pressing something like cntrl+shift+. ?
[04:15] <korben> [jeremy77]: once u log in to your account numlock stays open
[04:16] <korben> no matter if the lamp is closed at ur loggin screen
[04:16] <peepingtom> If I have a VPN connection and a bunch of computers on a LAN, can I just have them all connect to the VPN separately or do I have to set up some sort of special server and routing?
[04:16] <peepingtom> I mean like having 2 computers use networkmanager to connect to the same VPN account
[04:16] <natex> peepingtom: one has to be the server
[04:17] <ZykoticK9> cornwallis_, system / preferences / keyboard shortcuts -- Next Track
[04:17] <natex> peepingtom: one has to be the server
[04:17] <cornwallis_> ZykoticK9: i love you
[04:17] <KE1HA> Quesiton about CPU speed: IN the system monitor, my Laptops CPU-Speed = 1.73Ghz, but when checking /proc/cpuinfo it says cpu Mhz = 798 MHZ, any cluses as to what's going on there?
[04:18] <korben> so much love and affection that is what ubuntu is all about :P
[04:18] <thoma582> except at times
[04:18] <thoma582> where you get so frustrated
[04:18] <thoma582> and you want to just reformat
[04:18] <lolmac233> hi, is it possible for me to log in automatically with a remote account in ubuntu?
[04:18] <lolmac233> h07, natex
[04:18] <korben> [ThomasB2k]: never!
[04:18] <lolmac233> i wanted to log a remote account in ubuntu
[04:19] <Guest23762> what's a good tutorial for wine? website?
[04:19] <peepingtom> natex: thanks
[04:19] <h07> love and affection    OT   me thinks :P
[04:19] <natex> lolmac233: log in graphically? or via shell?
[04:19] <lolmac233> when ubuntu starts it asks for a user and password,  but it logs another user (a remote one) automatically
[04:19] <lolmac233> via shell
[04:19] <surfereddie> natex:  ran purge on nxserver and cannot shutdown nxserver error
[04:19] <lolmac233> but i could access it remotely  from another computer
[04:19]  * ThomasB2k dislikes the constant join/part messages in this channel
[04:19] <KE1HA> lolmac233, use PGP & SSH Authentication. Just make sure your the only one that's going to use the computer to access the remote machine.
[04:20] <ThomasB2k> bbl
[04:20] <korben> h07 that is what ubuntu is all about m8
[04:20] <natex> surfereddie: you'll have to stop the service I guess.   FYI from command line you can run "wine ApplicationName.exe" and it won't give permission issues.
[04:20] <h07> korben: hehe   still ####OT
[04:20] <jeremy77> I have a ati HD2600xt so do I have to remove default driver before i download and install the amd drivers?
[04:20] <lolmac233> KE1HA, ok thanks, also, do you know if ubuntu supports concurrent remote sessions?
[04:20] <Guest23762> thanks zkykotick
[04:21] <digitalfiz> even from cli wine wants the exe to be executible
[04:21] <Mr_Sonoma> lolmac233, yes i do it all the time
[04:21] <lolmac233> 1 user using the computer locally (user A account ) and another user using it remotely (user b account)
[04:21] <Guest23762> how do you add applications to wine?
[04:21] <Guest23762> libraries?
[04:22] <lolmac233> hmm, so is it possible to make the account log on automatically?
[04:22] <korben> i don't remember openning an actually usefull app with wine except a game or two
[04:22] <natex> lolmac233: yes you can do that. You'll need either vnc or freenx
[04:22] <KE1HA> How do you mean concurrent ?
[04:22] <surfereddie> natex: no I do not
[04:22] <keen101> I need some help with X.org. or is it X11? anyway...i need some help
[04:22] <lolmac233> KE1HA, at the same time, two or more accounts accessed/used simultaneously
[04:22] <lolmac233> in the same computer
[04:23] <argyle> keen101: what's your question?
[04:23] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:23] <ZykoticK9> Guest23762, get the installers for the stuff you need as you would in windows - download the EXEs, then install them using wine.  you might also want to check out the winetricks script, pretty handy for stuff.
[04:23] <h07> keen101: what the problem?
[04:23] <KE1HA> Yes, by putting your Public Signature on the remote computer, when you log via SSH, no PW is required.
[04:23] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: Typically, if you install it via Wine, it will be added to the Program Files menu. You can also find the wine directory at: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[04:23] <keen101> i wanted to re-enable the GDM restart with Ctrl Alt Backspace and used the command setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_f9
[04:23] <keen101> now i need to know how to undo that....
[04:24] <Guest23762> this is day 1 for me with wine....little confused
[04:24] <guest1> what' wrong with wine?
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> !dontzap | keen101
[04:24] <h07> keen101: thats confusing
[04:25] <Mr_Sonoma> keen101, graphical way is to go to system > preferences > keyboard > layouts > options > key sequence to kill x server
[04:25] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: If you download, or use from a CD or something, an .exe - you should be able to double-click, or right-click and open with wine. It should run in Wine and install within Wine.
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> keen101, OHHH sorry i have no idea about your issue!  i never used the setxkbmap before.  good luck man.
[04:25] <h07> !dontzap | keen101
[04:25] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:25] <therealpsychx> Guest23762: Then if you go to Applications > Wine > Program Files - it should be in there.
[04:25] <keen101> i used the command "setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_f9" from  a terminal. It doesent work the way i wanted to. And yes, i figured out the graphical way. But, when i press CTRl_ALT_F9 the screen blacks out.
[04:26] <Guest23762> really....wow
[04:26] <bsmith0931> does totem support dvd menus on a commercial dvd?
[04:26] <therealpsychx> It might also put an icon on your Desktop.
[04:26] <jeremy77> is it ok to down load and install ati proprietary driver while ubuntu default video driver is running?
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> keen101, so press ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[04:26] <therealpsychx> bsmith0931: Not sure about totem, but VLC does for sure.
[04:26] <bsmith0931> thx
[04:26] <jaybee> pop quiz: how do you launch a document (e.g. mydoc.pdf, myspreadsheet.xls) from an xterm, if you don't know what application it's associated with?
[04:26] <keen101> ZykoticK9, huh?
[04:27] <ubuser> is ubuntu different than dos or do i download linux versions
[04:27] <h07> keen101: CTRL_ATL_F9 is a terminal
[04:27] <keen101> oh.
[04:27] <Guest23762> i am finished with my wine tonight....little drunk thanks for the help
[04:27] <Guest23762> trying to find the door
[04:27] <h07> Guest23762: too much wine :P
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> keen101, h07 actually it's a virtual x terminal to be more precise.  if you had multiple x sessions running you might see something there.
[04:28] <cutterjohn> hi guys
[04:28] <therealpsychx> Guest23762.. had me laughing.
[04:28] <guest1> Guest23762
[04:28] <guest1> http://translate.google.ru/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntologia.ru%2Fwine&sl=ru&tl=en
[04:28] <h07> ZykoticK9: thats my point!
[04:28] <jaybee> never mind, I've found it - "gnome-open"
[04:29] <keen101> Okay, so your saying that that was already a shortcut for a terminal? well... how to get out of the terminal if i got into it?
[04:29] <sixofour> okay, when ever the mouse lock on my laptop ios rpessed, the keyboard stops working untill reboot, applications do not work, terminal does not work, clcking icons doesn't work, nor does restarting...the only option is to hard reset....how do i fix this, the mouse lock button completely breaks linux :@
[04:29] <cutterjohn> anyone else having problems with absolute crap wake from suspend with 10.4 as in it's actually faster to reboot?
[04:29] <therealpsychx> guest1: HE just signed off. =/
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> h07, what's your point?
[04:29] <surfereddie> natex:  it's gone.   Then you hold the power button on the laptop?
[04:30] <korben> [therealpsychx]: he has crushes because of mouselock ?
[04:30] <sixofour> therealpsychx pressing mouse lock pretty much breaks linux
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> h07, 7-10 are GUI "terminals"
[04:31] <surfereddie> thanks so much for the help!!!
[04:31] <sixofour> i turn it off, but nothing works after
[04:31] <keen101> ....interesting....
[04:31] <h07> ZykoticK9: no no no
[04:31] <sixofour> and i have to do a hard reset
[04:31] <joeb3_> cutterjohn, I get a blank white screen.  I just type my password and hit enter.  It works
[04:31] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Just wondering, what kind of laptop is it?
[04:31] <sixofour> the mouse works after i turn it off, but everything else doesn't
[04:31] <sixofour> hp
[04:31] <h07> ZykoticK9: noly F7 is a GUI
[04:31] <therealpsychx> sixofour: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:32] <sixofour> the latest
[04:32] <guest1> alt+f7 is GUI
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> h07, yes yes yes.  they are Xorg--Virtual-Terminals - i don't know there technical name.  F7 F8 F9 & F10 yes are GUI
[04:32] <cutterjohn> joeb3, not my problem I get the hdd going apeshit and the system not responding to anything other than ALT-SYSRQ+RSEINUB unless I wait c. 5m
[04:32] <subspider> hello guys
[04:32] <keen101> okay, cool. so i didnt mess up my system. I just tried Ctrl_Alt_F9 on another machine and it went black too, so i guess it is a terminal
[04:32] <natex> h07: you can have F8 and more too
[04:32] <korben> i am sure it is just a driver thing, i am sure that the mouse lock is translated with something else that is not supported and crashes
[04:32] <h07> ZykoticK9:  well thats not so  ONLY one is gui
[04:33] <keen101> ....but... typing "exit" doesent do anything...hmmm
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> h07, you can have multiple!
[04:33] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[04:33] <cutterjohn> joeb3 just faster to emerg reboot by ALT-SYSRQ
[04:33] <h07> ZykoticK9:  not by default
[04:33] <keen101> how do i exit that terminal?
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> h07, gdmflexiserver and log in as another user - only one user at a time!
[04:33] <sixofour> let me check
[04:33] <joeb3_> cutterjohn, ok
[04:33] <sixofour> yes therealpsychx
[04:33] <subspider> when i press ctrl + alt +f5 my cli gives me theses errors constantly unable to enumerate usb device on port 3
[04:33] <subspider> hub cannot disable port 3 (error=-32)
[04:33] <subspider> usb device not accepting adress 0 , error =-71
[04:34] <natex> h07: try it... in ubuntu log inas another user. then use ctrl+alt+f7/f8 to swith back and forth
[04:34] <nimbiotics> hello everybody. I just updated to 10.04 and am getting weird behaviour. To begin with the most important one; now I cannot, or don't know how to access, other (NTFS) partitions on this PC. I can only guess this is related to an error message I'm getting on startup: "An error occurred while mounting 'blkid. Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"(sic) I tried M once but, not...
[04:34] <nimbiotics> ...knowing what to do, haven't tried again. I can see the partitions with gparted and Disk Utility; but thats about it. What can I do?? TIA!
[04:34] <cutterjohn> (this IS a CLEAN install BTW)
[04:34] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Ok
[04:34] <cutterjohn> (x86-64)
[04:34] <kisuke> is there any way to disable ipv6?
[04:34] <h07> ZykoticK9:  another user maybe   but not by default
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> h07, i don't understand why you can't try it and see - all by default.  (but yes your system would need 2 users)
[04:35] <cutterjohn> maybe I should go to a different chat room for my problem?
[04:35] <digitalfiz> nimbiotics, sounds liek the partitions werent cleanly unmounted so you may have to boot into windows and run chkdsk and reboot a few more times to fix the partition then boot back into ubuntu
[04:36] <keen101> okay. nevermind. i guess Ctrl_Alt_F7 exits from the strange terminals.....wierd. Thanks guys!!!
[04:36] <h07> ZykoticK9:  thats a mote point
[04:36] <natex> ZykoticK9: h07 sorry to butt in. but a single user can have two gui sessions. Use startx -- :1 for another gui session
[04:36] <h07> ZykoticK9: only F7 is a GUI
[04:36] <natex> ZykoticK9: h07 man startx
[04:36] <guest1> Press the key combination <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F2>. You will be back to prompt login:. However, this is not a return to the top of the system - you just switched to another virtual terminal. Here you can register under a different name. Try to log in as the newly instigated user. Then press the key combination <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F1>. You will return to the first screen. By  default, Red Hat Linux opens when you start 6 parallel sessions of work  (virtual terminals)
[04:36] <korben> [keen101]: lol that is not a strange terminal that is the actuall terminal
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, i wouldn't do that if i where you.  that feature was removed from GDM for a reason.
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: and u get to it by alt+F1 alt+F2 and get away from it with alt+F7
[04:37] <natex> ZykoticK9: what's the reason?
[04:37] <therealpsychx> sixofour: I'm trying to figure it out, hold on a sec.
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: that is the actuall linux terminal :P
[04:37] <sixofour> k
[04:37] <nimbiotics> digitalfiz: i ran chkdsk a while ago on both disks, booted back to windows and then back to ubuntu; same thing :(
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, multiple files in home dir being written at the same time.
[04:37] <keen101> okay, then why cant i type anyhting in that terminal?
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> natex, i believe it only messes with the user account, it's not really a system issue.
[04:37] <h07> a user cant have two gui terminals by default
[04:37] <korben> [keen101]: u have to login
[04:38] <korben> [keen101]: because it is a terminal like "outside" of the desktop enviroment
[04:38] <keen101> interesting.
[04:38] <kisuke> !ipv6 >kisuke
[04:38] <natex> ZykoticK9: I see. not really an issue unless you have a clone of yourself working remotely :)
[04:38] <oo> does anyone get random crashes with xchat-gnome?
[04:38] <digitalfiz> nimbiotics, you have to run chkdsk and fix all problems then reboot into windows a few times im not sure why but you have to do it a few times in a row then boot into ubuntu some weird ntfs quirk
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> natex, which you would have if you have 2 Xorg sessions running at the same time - it's not even remote!
[04:38] <oo> it happens to me all the time on lucid 64bit so i've switched to irssi
[04:39] <korben> [keen101]: it just works parallel with the desktop enviroment and u get back to your desktop with alt+F7
[04:39] <nimbiotics> digitalfiz: roger, will try, thanks!
[04:39] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[04:39] <natex> ZykoticK9: :)
[04:39] <keen101> cool. Never knew that before.
[04:39] <korben> basicly keen101 when u start console terminal from gnome it is gnome's terminal
[04:39] <keen101> Korben, yeah i knew that.
[04:39] <cutterjohn> are there any other channles than -dev that are better than this?
[04:39] <h07> ZykoticK9: 2 Xorg sessions running  how?
[04:40] <cutterjohn> where someone might have a clue?
[04:40] <korben> but the one u see with alt+F1 is like the console of linux it self not of gnome
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> oo, use the real xchat instead of xchat-gnome, just my opinion mind you - might not be worth much ;)
[04:40] <oo> keen101: consider that Unix and Linux have been around for a long time, before the window managers and X and stuff like that, so it was a way to switch between programs. Now you can do stuff like run multiple users at the same time
[04:40] <chris_osx> morning
[04:40] <natex> cutterjohn: about what?
[04:40] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: http://dpaste.com/222606/
[04:40] <korben> [keen101]: so there are terminals till F6 and F7 closes them
[04:40] <oo> Yeah I switched to irssi but i'll try that
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> !attitude | cutterjohn
[04:41] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/" ?
[04:41] <oo> I just want something in the ubutu repositories so I get security updates
[04:41] <keen101> Hmm.. okay. Yeah, i wasnt really around when Unix was dominant.
[04:41] <korben> [keen101]: well actually not closes them just switches back to graffic
[04:41] <digitalfiz> cutterjohn, i dont think there is a helpful channel for poor attitudes lol good luck though
[04:41] <keen101> my first computer ran DOS. :(
[04:41] <h07> keen101: ubuntu ISNT unix :P
[04:42] <keen101> h07: yes i know.
[04:42] <guest1> [keen101] you can use virtual terminal to kill  some processes when your GUI dektop "has hanged"
[04:42] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: no output
[04:42] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Something you can try is going to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, then search for something called: gpointing-device-settings
[04:42] <korben> so u where arround when linux came up ;p
[04:42] <korben> heheheheh
[04:42] <Guest69819> does anyone have trouble with this site? i cant get it to load all the way whatsoever: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/866
[04:42] <keen101> haha
[04:42] <sixofour> k
[04:42] <korben> if u say no u have to be going to elementary school by now
[04:42] <therealpsychx> sixofour: It basically gives you more control over the settings for the touchpad.
[04:42] <Guest69819> its a site for free xubuntu cd
[04:42] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: That's good, you should now be able to access you files from "My Media" by going to Filesystem > mnt ("ls /mnt").
[04:43] <livingdaylight> hi, FF and chrome both flash plugin crash when trying to load express.paltalk, a web-based paltalk client. Anyone, advise me?
[04:43] <therealpsychx> sixofour: Also, check out this Ubuntuforums post.. I'll PM it to you.
[04:43] <Omar_pimentel> Hi everyone
[04:43] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Of course that's only one of the two ntfs partitions you have.
[04:43] <keen101> It's very easy to confuse myself.
[04:43] <h07> keen101: linux is a UNIX clone
[04:44] <korben> [livingdaylight]: have u downloaded the latest flash plugin?
[04:44] <korben> 10.1 ?
[04:44] <Omar_pimentel> I have a problem connecting to my wireless network in ubuntu, I have the version 10.4, my wireless card is RTL8187 and it see the network but cant connect
[04:44] <Evolution-X> hey guys i run   dd if=/dev/sda of=~/disk1.img and get   dd: opening `/dev/sda': Permission denied
[04:44] <keen101> Isnt OSX Unix with a bunch of proprietary mish-mosh added on top?
[04:44] <Evolution-X> i want to make a image for backup purposes
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Guest88149: It's loading very slowly for me, probably a server side problem.
[04:44] <oo> Omar_pimental: did you upgrade form an earlier version of Ubuntu, and do you have access to an internet connection over ethernet?
[04:44] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: sorry, im a noob and cant understand your previous message, still tryng to figure it out
[04:45] <h07> keen101: no OS uese linux!
[04:45] <livingdaylight> please, can someone help me?
[04:45] <digitalfiz> keen101, osx has a bsd core
[04:45] <Omar_pimentel> The connection worked fine a few days ago
[04:45] <guest1> http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/866 doesn't load
[04:45] <keen101> whats is the difference between bsd and unix?
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> !ot | keen101
[04:45] <livingdaylight> flash plugin crashes a lot here. anyone?>
[04:45] <Omar_pimentel> I did a clean install of ubuntu 10.4
[04:45] <keen101> okay. thanks the help!! bye!
[04:45] <h07> keen101:an auful lot!
[04:45] <natex> Evolution-X: you may need to write the image to another drive. Also, make sure you have proper write permissions.
[04:45] <livingdaylight> I'm on topic but ignored :/
[04:46] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: If you go to Places > Computer, then select "Filesystem", then select the directory there named "mnt", you will see the files from the partition named "My Media".
[04:46] <korben> [livingdaylight]: download the latest one 10.1
[04:46] <korben> i answered u before
[04:46] <natex> livingdaylight: flash is spotty on linux. Are you using 64 bit? Or 32?
[04:46] <Evolution-X> i have mi ipod plugdin for that,,how i make sure i have permission
[04:47] <livingdaylight> natex, 32 - I think
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Evolution-X: You need to run that with sudo, but be *very* carefull with dd, accidentily switching if= and of= for instance can trash your entire drive.
[04:47] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, i give natex's comment +1
[04:47] <Evolution-X> ando how i send that to the ipod
[04:47] <korben> [Evolution-X]: run it with root console
[04:47] <Evolution-X> OMG
[04:47] <livingdaylight> but paltalk express is designed to work on Linux
[04:47] <Evolution-X> how can i backup then
[04:47] <natex> livingdaylight: other flash sites work?
[04:47] <hanasaki> have tomcat installed and put a WAR file in the webapps directory : why would it not be auto deployed? the server.xml is set to autodeploy
[04:48] <livingdaylight> natex, youtube etc, YES
[04:48] <korben> [livingdaylight]: Have you downloaded the LATEST 10.1 version ?
[04:48] <korben> of flash?
[04:48] <capleton> how do I restart X now that ctrl-alt-del is deprecated?
[04:48] <Evolution-X> y try to use grsync but have a virtual machine here too about 10G and stop the prosses because is too big the virtual machine
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Evolution-X: That command will work if you put "sudo " in front of it, if you want an option that is less likely to cause serious problems with a typo then try an app called clonezilla.
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, are you sure paltalk express is using only flash?  could this be a java issue?
[04:48] <digitalfiz> capleton, power button :P
[04:48] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: indeed, but why is it that all items are grey?
[04:49] <korben> [capleton]: run shutdown -r now
[04:49] <IdleOne> capleton: alt-sysrq-k
[04:49] <korben> as root
[04:49] <ZykoticK9> capleton, alt+sysrq+k
[04:49] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: I don't know.
[04:49] <IdleOne> !dontzap | capleton
[04:49] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: a;; seems good though
[04:49] <h07> capleton: init 1
[04:49] <Evolution-X> i try to get that from pendrivelinux i did everything thay said and didnt work for me
[04:49] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, you may well be right. it just that I get the flash complaint pop up
[04:49] <capleton> thnx
[04:49] <oo> Omar_pimentel: I'm sorry I thought you said rt2*** not rtl*****, I dont knwo anything about realtek drivers and cant help you. good luck though!
[04:49] <guest1>  capleton ctrl+alt+f1 killall X.org
[04:49] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, I do have java installed too
[04:49] <tensorpudding> Okay, so I'm trying to mount.ecryptfs /mnt/home/foo/.Private to /home/foo/oldhome, but it keeps mounting /home/foo/.Private instead
[04:49] <natex> livingdaylight: what is the web address?
[04:50] <Evolution-X> where can i get clonezilla .iso so i can burn to disk and boot
[04:50] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, are you using the default opensource java or the oracle/sun java (which is in the Partner repository, not turned on by default!)
[04:50] <tensorpudding> Why is it doing this, and what should I do to make it aright?
[04:50] <livingdaylight> natex, http://www.paltalk.com/express/
[04:50] <oo> Evolution-X clonezilla's site has one
[04:50] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: (all*) how can we mount the "Win XP SP3" partition?
[04:50] <Omar_pimentel> I have a problem connecting to my wireless network in ubuntu, I have the version 10.4, my wireless card is RTL8187 and it see the network but cant connect, Can somebody please help me??
[04:50] <oo> clonezilla.org
[04:51] <gogeta> nimbiotics: like any other drive
[04:51] <Evolution-X> ok
[04:51] <Evolution-X> thanks
[04:51] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, I don't think I@m using the opensource version of java - ice-tea - ? How can I tell for sure?
[04:51] <livingdaylight> pretty sure i'm using Sun's java
[04:51] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: First try selecting it in Places > Computer. Is it listed there?
[04:51] <oo> livingdaylight: about:config in firefox's loxation bar
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, i get an error about OS!  You might have to try this in WINE Firefox!
[04:52] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: no
[04:52] <natex> livingdaylight: I'm using default Ubuntu java and flash. It's working for me.
[04:52] <livingdaylight> ZykoticK9, no, express is web-based and it says it runs on windown, max and linux on their site from any browser like ff and opera
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> livingdaylight, see natex's comment ;)  good news
[04:52] <livingdaylight> natex, that's frustrating then
[04:53] <natex> livingdaylight: yeah
[04:53] <gogeta> livingdaylight: whats broken lol
[04:53] <livingdaylight> gogeta, my ubuntu it looks like, argh.
[04:53] <natex> livingdaylight: update your flash?
[04:53] <livingdaylight> natex, how so?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Odd, you can unmount your "My Media" partition and mount your "Win XP SP3" partition with "sudo umount /mnt/" then "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt". Then your
[04:54] <h07> ah ok drop me on to that netwotk
[04:54] <gogeta> Jordan_U: flagged dirty ntfs will not automount he probly needs to boot xp and let chkdsk run
[04:54] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: ... Then your "Win XP SP3" files will be available in /mnt (like your "My Media" files were before).
[04:54] <natex> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> natex, what flash are you using?  ie. how did you install it, more then the version number.
[04:55] <Tamnakz> I'm currently runing 8.10. Update suggests 9.04. If I update, what changes will I see?
[04:55] <ravic> hey can some1 tel me how to use mutt to download only unread mails from servers but nt all emails?
[04:55] <natex> ZykoticK9: livingdaylight: I'm using the adobe flashplugin installer
[04:55] <gogeta> Tamnakz: you can change that to go stragt to lucid
[04:55] <livingdaylight> natex, looks like I already have the newest version. And you're running sun's java or the opensource version which ubuntu is set to by default?
[04:55] <gogeta> Tamnakz: change your upgrade prefs from normal to lts
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: You can't upgrade directly from 9.04 to 10.04.
[04:56] <Tamnakz> gogeta, what's the difference?
[04:56] <gogeta> Jordan_U: hes on 8.10
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: You can't upgrade directly from 8.10 either :)
[04:56] <natex> livingdaylight: java-common (non-Sun I think)
[04:56] <gogeta> Tamnakz: its the next long term support ubuntu
[04:56] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Only 8.04.
[04:56] <gogeta> oh
[04:56] <Tamnakz> how long is the support for 9.04?
[04:57] <guest1> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[04:58] <gogeta> Tamnakz: normal releses are 1 year lts are 3
[04:58] <Tamnakz> gogeta: I wasn't gonna update for now, but I'm already seeing problems. . .
[04:58] <IdleOne> !support
[04:59] <jpk_> Hi everyone, I am having a major problem with cryptsetup & key-files--I had to reboot my 8.04 LTS server, and after reboot, cryptsetup does not work for one of two encrypted disks I have; one disk unencrypts fine with it's key file, while the other one gives me the error "Command failed: No key available with the passphrase." Nothing has changed with regards to the key-files or setup that I know of.
[04:59] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: perfect! it worked, guess i can go on my ownby googling help on mount and umount, right?
[04:59] <kisuke> !8.04 | jpk_
[04:59] <kisuke> !upgrade | jpk_
[05:00] <kisuke> we have any networking familar people here atm?
[05:00] <jpk_> kisuke: I've tried using a 10.04 live disk to open the encrypted disks, but got the exact same results.
[05:00] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Yes. I'm surprised that the partitions don't show up in Places > Computer, but there's nothing wrong with mounting manually (or setting them up to always mount via fstab).
[05:00] <Jordan_U> !fstab | nimbiotics
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: as i said dirty ntfs will not show up
[05:01] <surfereddie> Does anybody know how to get rid of the user in freeNX?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> gogeta: If it were dirty then it wouldn't have mounted with the mount command.
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: once chkdsk runs on them they should become visable
[05:01] <ubuser> hello
[05:01] <gogeta> Jordan_U: it will but read only
[05:01] <kisuke> jpk_: it looks like the key file might have disapeared, you might want to try fsck, not sure what parameters you would need though
[05:02] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: Did you get any error message with that seccond mount command?
[05:02] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: none
[05:02] <Jordan_U> gogeta: And in my experience "unclean" ntfs filesystems show up in nautilus but give an error message when you try to access them.
[05:03] <gogeta> Jordan_U: yea mounting reead only
[05:03] <gogeta> Jordan_U: strange
[05:03] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Since he's getting no error messages his ntfs partitions are not dirty.
[05:03] <Jordan_U> gogeta: Indeed.
[05:04] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: What about the "error mounting 'blkid?  does that have to do with my problem?
[05:04] <gogeta> Jordan_U: acully i rember this issue it was due to some old files after a upgarde braking automount but i cant rember the fix
[05:04] <ubuser> i was wondering if i downloaded the dependencies for something do i need a specific one for each version of ubuntu ( breezy,dapper, Feisty Fawn, Gutsy Gibbon))
[05:04] <gogeta> Jordan_U: you had to remove a package and it fixes it but i cant rember the name
[05:04] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: BTW, the single quote is in the message, its not a typo ('blkid)
[05:05] <mrpoundsign> quck Q... how, in the recovery console, do I remount / as read/write?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: It's likely, though I don't know what that error message means.
[05:05] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: also, this error message estops boot process
[05:05] <ubuser> or does zlib v1.2.3 work on all versions of ubuntu
[05:05] <jpk_> kisuke: both key files are still there & remain unchanged from when I originally created them; cryptsetup luksDump still shows all the same info as before as well.
[05:06] <jpk_> I can't fsck because it's a luks partition, not an ext..
[05:06] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: well, im going to try fstab and see what happens
[05:06] <abhijit> hello
[05:06] <iflema> ubuser what does zlib depend on?
[05:06] <bruttotempo> ciao
[05:06] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U, ubottu: Thanks a lot!!
[05:06] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: You're welcome.
[05:06] <kisuke> jpk_: are you sure you have the PW right?
[05:06] <gogeta> Jordan_U: mani cant rember lol
[05:06] <bruttotempo> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:07] <bruttotempo> nessuno parla italiano?
[05:07] <Jordan_U> nimbiotics: ubottu is a channel bot by the way (not a human).
[05:07] <gogeta> Jordan_U: its due to the new system and the old sstems packages being not removed
[05:07] <nimbiotics> Jordan_U: lol, thanks!
[05:07] <jpk_> kisuke: it doesn't have a password, it uses a key file, and it is correct; I have backups of the file as well.
[05:08] <ubuser> is ubuntu OS/2
[05:08] <kisuke> jpk_: diff keyfile backup_of_keyfile?
[05:08] <jpk_> kisuke: the md5 sums are the same..
[05:08] <capleton> Hi all.  Does anyone know why a multi-touch capable (eee 1201n) system would register two fingers as two seperate touches rather than one large, wide touch?
[05:09] <capleton> the best would be if someone knew how i could fix it ;-)
[05:09] <kisuke> jpk_: files are in the correct spot?
[05:09] <gogeta> Jordan_U: thats the packge remove usbmount
[05:09] <jpk_> mrpoundsign: to remount / to rw, "mount -o remount -o rw /" should work.
[05:10] <jpk_> kisuke: yep, though I can specify where to look with cryptsetup luksOpen..
[05:10] <gogeta> Jordan_U: and hal
[05:10] <gogeta> Jordan_U: those 2 get left behind on a upgrade and screw with the automount system
[05:11] <mrpoundsign> jpk: thnaks :)
[05:12] <kisuke> jpk_: humor me, and try to open the file wiht the backup
[05:12] <gogeta> nimbiotics: i managed to dig up your mounts not showing issue usbmount and hal dont get removed on a upgrade from 9.04 and screw up that automount system removing them fixes it
[05:13] <jpk_> kisuke: I already have, both replacing the file in /etc for bootup as well as just using the cryptsetup luksOpen..
[05:13] <kisuke> do you have a backup of the container?
[05:14] <juju2143> hi, you know how to find the screen resolution of the purple splashscreen at the start in Lucid?
[05:14] <abhijit> bye
[05:14] <kisuke> juju2143: settings>startup? (or somehting like that.)
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, are you using nvidia proprietary drivers?  If so i think it's like 800x600 (or maybe smaller even)
[05:15] <ubuser> im trying to download snes its saying i need djgpp v2, and its making me choose from windows unix msdos os/2 or dosemu.?!
[05:15] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, got ATI
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, the bootup stuff is call Plymouth
[05:15] <jpk_> kisuke: I do now. :-) and I've tried opening that w/ luksOpen, but same problem..  I don't from before when it was working, I only have an un-encrypted dump (from a while ago)
[05:15] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, it's the framebuffer right?
[05:15] <ZykoticK9> s/call/called
[05:15] <ubuser> k thx
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, NOT "really" but kinda "yes".
[05:16] <cornwallis_> anyone know how to made the default max volume higher. every time i want to listen to music I have to go to system>preferences>sound and change the output to be above 100%. is there a way to move the "150%" to 100?
[05:16] <Rev> Hi
[05:16] <niglop> instead of downloading xubuntu can i download ubuntu and then just install xfce?
[05:16] <Rev> Any Ubuntu guru's around
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> niglop, yes
[05:16] <kisuke> jpk_: im you have any oldre  backups that work?, i dont use encrypted drives atm, so im not as familar as id like
[05:16] <niglop> kk thanks
[05:16] <juju2143> So if I boot from the live cd I get a decent resolution for that Plymouth thing and from the HD a rather low resolution
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> !purexfce | niglop
[05:17] <juju2143> so I want to set the resolution  to the one on the live cd
[05:17] <tucemiux> cornwallis_, sounds like a bug, you mean you change the volume in the "sound" applet but after you reboot you have to change that setting again?
[05:17] <niglop> thanks ZykoticK9
[05:17] <jpk_> kisuke: no, I don't generally back up the whole encrypted drives.. I have some older backups, but have some pretty important stuff on the drive that was done recently..
[05:18] <tucemiux> niglop, yes but that will kind of defeat the purpose, it's like getting the whole burguer when youre a vegeterian an all you want is lettuce and tomato
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, if you are using proprietary ATI then i can see you getting poor Plymouth resolution.  But is getting worse Xorg drivers really worth getting a few seconds of good Plymouth resolution?
[05:18] <jpk_> kisuke: I've re-learned everything I knew about encrypting again awfully quick! :-)
[05:18] <cornwallis_> tucemiux. the setting for output volume will stay the same after a reboot. but if I have to drop it below 100% then when I press the volume up button it won't go past 100%
[05:18] <niglop> lol tucemiux  i want to see what gnome is like (only used xfce before)
[05:18] <Rev> Any ubuntu guru's able to have a quick pm conversation, just I'm heavily confused about a problem with installation and harddrives.
[05:19] <kisuke> jpk_: what application are you using?
[05:19] <niglop> im switching from mint to ubuntu because it has a more active community
[05:19] <kisuke> !wicd
[05:19] <cornwallis_> its just the 100% is not loud enough for mostt media
[05:19] <tucemiux> niglop, if you already have xfce you can install gnome
[05:19] <wizard_> hi... anyone having probs with java after updates?
[05:20] <jpk_> kisuke: it is actually an LVM under the encrypted array, with multiple VMs running; the only stumbling block is just getting the luks partition to work with it's key file...
[05:20] <puff> I recently jumped from edgy to lucid, anybody know what the latest emacs verison in edgy was?  Or is there any way I could determine this from my backup files?
[05:20] <niglop> tucemiux:  im on mint, im installing ubuntu
[05:20] <Rev> Help anyone?
[05:20] <niglop> tucemiux:  but i dont know if i should go straight to xubuntu or test out the normal thing and then install xfce afterwards
[05:20]  * kisuke looks up at what jpk_ just said
[05:20] <tucemiux> cornwallis_, then it sounds like it's an application related issue.  What do you mean by you the volume "button" up? I thought you were changing the volume using the "sound" applet?
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> Rev, why not state your issue/problem/question here so EVERYONE can look at it?
[05:21] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, I get a decent 1600x900 and good 3D
[05:21] <tucemiux> niglop, is mint ubuntu based?
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, oh man 1600x900 can you read terminals ok?  isnt' that really small?
[05:21] <kisuke> !mint | tucemiux
[05:21] <falckon> where are the menu entries for a user's gnome menu saved? my friend has nothing in his applications menu
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, ctrl+alt+f1 type terminals
[05:21] <Rev> ZykoticK9: because everyone is talking so quick it won't get answered
[05:21] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, oh not terminal, xorg
[05:21] <randy_> Rev: its hard to tell who can help you because you need to just go ahead and describe your problem :)
[05:22] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, I get a low resolution
[05:22] <jpk_> it's definitely not simple, but I've not had any problems before; it's been running like a champ for a little over 2 years now; multiple reboots the whole nine yards..
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, what i'm saying is you'd have to remove your good/proprietary drivers, and install the opensource drivers to get the good Plymouth resolutions.
[05:22] <sam92> Hi, I have a classroom setup with Ubuntu 8.04 and LTSP. I want to upgrade to 10.04 and I want to use the Alternate CD for it. What about the packages which are not on the CD? Will they stay unupdated until I update them manually or will they be deinstalled?
[05:23] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, ah ok.
[05:23] <juju2143> ZykoticK9, so I won't get 3D?
[05:23] <Rev> ZykoticK9: I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  Ubuntu see's my partitioned drive that I'd like to install to, however gparted says the drive the partition is held is unallocated.  When I try to install, I can't find the partition I want to install onto.
[05:23] <nimbiotics> gogeta: sorry it took me so long to see your message. How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:23] <tucemiux> niglop, you can try ubuntu on a virtual machine if youre already using linux mint
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> juju2143, minimal at best?  you using ATI - i'm NOT the person to ask.
[05:23] <cornwallis_> tucemiux: when i want to listen to music I have to go to ubuntu's sound settings and change the output volume to 150%, but if I need to turn it down later to say 50%, and then I use the volume up buttons on my PC it will only go back up to 100%. i was just wondering if there was a way to increase the DB level of the output volume's 100%
[05:23] <juju2143> ok thx ZykoticK9 i'll try
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> Rev, that didn't have to be directed at me ;) it's for EVERYONE to look at.
[05:24] <randy_> Rev: is there any chance that was partitioned with Mac or something like that?
[05:24] <cornwallis_> that way I dont always have to navigate to the volume settings for the change
[05:24] <Rev> No
[05:24] <randy_> Rev: is there anything on the drive that you would like to keep? or is it just partitioned externally but essentially empty?
[05:25] <Rev> The drive must be kept, it stores a lot of essential things
[05:26] <Rev> I created a 24gb partition on there when I first bought the drive, so I could run ubuntu
[05:26] <tucemiux> cornwallis_,  i use alsa gnome mixer for that and I attach the applet to my panel, that way when I have to change the volume I click on the applet and the volume app shows, I only use the volume buttons on my laptop when I want to lower the button right away, for example if I get a phone call, or need to mute the volume
[05:26] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8gzr9hcL
[05:26] <randy_> Rev: is it a strange partition type?
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> Rev, start the LiveCD and in at terminal run "sudo fdisk -l" and it should show all parititions the OS sees.
[05:27] <cornwallis_> tucemiux: i will just try that. thanks
[05:30] <Rev> http://yfrog.com/20screenshotjdp - what it showed
[05:31] <nimbiotics> gogeta: sorry it took me so long to see your message. How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:31] <Colonel_Panic> Hey all
[05:31] <Colonel_Panic> I'm trying to join #debian, but the server says I'm banned
[05:31] <wizard_> hi can anyone help with java issue?
[05:31] <_hoop> anyone good with printer installations?
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Rev, from what i see it doesn't appear sdb has any paritions on it.
[05:32] <Colonel_Panic> is it because I'm using a Web IRC client?
[05:32] <Rev> It's the 500gb drive
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | wizard_ Colonel_Panic
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Colonel_Panic, sorry that was for _hoop
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> ZykotickK9: What?!?
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> oh ok
[05:33] <Colonel_Panic> sorry
[05:33] <wizard_> ok having cripes errors playing web games.... worked before updates
[05:33] <tucemiux> Colonel_Panic, you have to register your nick
[05:33] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[05:33] <ssd7_> Hi, I'm trying to fix my fiancee's toshiba laptop.  It seems that after waking up from suspend, the ACPI LID close even no longer gets sent, so after the first suspend and resume you can no longer do suspend/resume via the lid close.  Any ideas?
[05:34] <Colonel_Panic> I know you guys aren't supposed to answer Debian questions, but I'm having an installation issue with it not recognizing my hard drives
[05:34] <wizard_> reinstall firefox and sun6 no good though
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> !register > Colonel_Panic this one's for you ;)
[05:34] <Rev> Zykotick9: weird thing is, if I goto places, it shows the drive I want to install to in there.. Linux!
[05:34] <Colonel_Panic> My nick is registered
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> Rev, it should!  but it's not currently formatted.  If you are worried about installing, select the option during formatting/partitioning for largest free space, and it should automatically install there!  FYI you should have a backup of your system BEFORE trying to install Ubuntu.
[05:35] <Colonel_Panic> if I chang my nick, am I going to be kicked out of here?
[05:35] <nimbiotics> How do I remove usbmount and hal? TIA!
[05:36] <IdleOne> Colonel_Panic: shouldn't
[05:36] <lobak> if i want to create a cron job that execute every 30 minutes, does this layout accurate ? 0,30 * * * * /my/first/command && /my/second/command
[05:36] <tucemiux> ssd7_, using suspend/resume is flaky on my laptop, that's why I never use it, if windows does weird things you can probably expect linux to do weird things as well, I personally never use it unless off course I do it inadvertently, I've lucked out and never had a problem waking my laptop up with linux but then again I suppose its just a matter of time so I generally dont do it
[05:36] <tucemiux> John_Albert, did you authenticate with freenode?
[05:36] <IdleOne> #debian has a ban set on @gateway/web/freenode
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, actually you can register multiple nicks on your freenode account, so I'm not sure what switching to a non-associated nic would do.  just sayin'.  hope all is well.
[05:37] <ssd7_> tucemiux: Suspend/Resume was working fine on this laptop until the upgrade to 10.04
[05:37] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select Add to add a printer
[05:37] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: um, yeah I knew that, I meant he shouldn't be kicked for changing nick. I'm well thanks :)
[05:38] <tucemiux> ssd7_,  that sounds like it's a bug, what the model of the laptop?
[05:38] <_hoop> Can anyone help me with printer?
[05:39] <Rev> Thanks for your help guys, i'm going to leave it.  Guess Linux isn't cut out for me
[05:39] <soreau> !print
[05:39] <ssd7_> Toshiba Satellite E105.  I found a bug report with similar symptoms, but it hasn't gotten any attention
[05:40] <andresj> Hello, ever since upgrading to Lucid, some programs fail with Segmentation Fault predictably. For example, most gtksourceview programs (including gedit) crash at specific times of selecting/typing quote characters. It gets quite annoying after a while, which is why I started using Kate. Inform7 crashes when I click on the Go or Replay button. Is there any way I can diagnose this? The command line only says "Segmantation Faul
[05:40] <andresj> t" with no other kind of help.
[05:40] <_hoop> how do i connect to local host and cups?
[05:40] <tucemiux> ssd7_, i suggest you follow that bug report and post to it as well, if enough people post on it it'll grab someone's attention, eventually
[05:40] <kisuke> andresj: have you updated everything?
[05:40] <soreau> andresj: Ubuntu dist upgrades can be problematic. I'd recommend installing fresh
[05:41] <soreau> _hoop: Read the links ubottu gave. You can use your browser
[05:41] <andresj> soreau: I was told otherwise---specialyl since the installer doesn't work properly anymore on my computer.
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, if you have a Launchpad account, have you already marked yourself as being affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/445905
[05:41] <_hoop> Cups Server ERROR (there was an error during the CUPS operation: 'Failed to connect to server'
[05:41] <andresj> kisuke: I would assume so. I did the automated dist upgrade.
[05:41] <tucemiux> _hoop, http://localhost:631/admin
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: If the installer didn't work, that's a good sign an upgrade wont either
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: Is it an older machine?
[05:42] <ssd7_> ZykoticK9: I don't think that is the same bug I've having
[05:42] <andresj> soreau: no, it is quite new, actually. 4 years old.
[05:42] <juju2143> now how I switch from the proprietary to free driver?
[05:42] <juju2143> for the framebuffer
[05:42] <juju2143> for ati
[05:42] <soreau> andresj: Hm.. should work then..
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, i really just went on your model and the bug title, i didn't check to close, so I'm glad you did!
[05:43] <andresj> soreau: I think the problem with the installer had to do with using neoveau instead of nvidia driver, though. I sidestepped that by doing a dist upgrade and enabling nvidia driver.
[05:43] <soreau> andresj: Is it anything weird like non-intel or 64bit?
[05:43] <kisuke> andresj: open a teminal and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <_hoop> still not connecting
[05:43] <flomaster> some thing is messing up my runlevel on boot how can I diagnose the issue and see what is messing it up on boot?
[05:43] <soreau> _hoop: Read the links ubottu gave you. You have to install and setup cups first
[05:43] <soreau> ! print | _hoop
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, sure sounds like the same symptom - [TOSHIBA Satellite E105] hibernate/resume failure
[05:44] <jpk_> kisuke: any further thoughts, or just prayers? :-)
[05:44] <_hoop> IVe read before... im not Linux noob
[05:44] <andresj> soreau: it is 64-bit. an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core, to be precise
[05:44] <soreau> andresj: That sucks man, sorry for your loss
[05:44] <andresj> kisuke: ok fine, i got a bunch of un-upgraded software. _now_. I think it was broken before that, though. i'll try upgrading anyway.
[05:44] <andresj> kisuke: (now as in after the dist upgrade)
[05:45] <kisuke> jpk_: payers mostly. not sure what else i can tell you.
[05:45] <flomaster> any gurus up in here?
[05:45] <soreau> flomaster: nope
[05:45] <wrektjet> found a cool command that will move the cloase, max,min buttons from the left to the right : gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close
[05:45] <vikasap> When I do a top , what is this ata/1 that is always running in my system ?
[05:45] <flomaster> FML
[05:46] <andresj> soreau: yeah trying to digure out what it means.
[05:46] <IdleOne> !ask | flomaster
[05:46] <thetabyte> I'm running 10.04 Lucid Lynx and I removed the chat indicator and shut down menu from the gnome-panel and can't find the right gnome-panel widget to put it back? any solutions?
[05:46] <tucemiux> ssd7_, my advice is to go ahead and add yourself as affected by the bug if the symptoms are the ***same*** as you are experiencing otherwise file a bug report of your own, that is really the only way to get bugs fixed, people reporting them and the developers fixing them, I had sound problems on both laptop and desktop -- they were fixed on my desktop and to a bearable degree on my laptop
[05:46] <jpk_> kisuke: heh, nice typo--I have a phone call scheduled w/ Canonical tomorrow morning. :-(
[05:46] <ssd7_> ZykoticK9: Generically yes, but the problem I am having is, I think, more of an ACPI problem.  I can resume and suspend with no problem using the power menu.   The problem is that no ACPI event is triggered when I close the lid AFTER resuming from a suspend.
[05:46] <soreau> andresj: Are you using 32bit or tried it yet?
[05:46] <hasen> hi, if I'm editing a gtkrc file, can I see changes immediately? or is there a command that I can run to tell the system that gtkrc has changed? (without using a gui)
[05:46] <soreau> andresj: your version of ubuntu, that is
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> ssd7_, you are correct!  different bug FOR SURE.  sorry man.
[05:47] <wrektjet> thetabyte, its part of the basic applet "indicator applet"
[05:47] <flowbee> i have ubuntu 10.04;  how do i emulate the 3rd mouse button press?
[05:48] <flomaster> some thing is messing up my runlevel on boot how can I diagnose the issue and see what is messing it up on boot?
[05:48] <andresj> soreau: no, i am using 64-bit. used to use 32-bit but 64-bit has worked quite well till The Problem :P
[05:48] <jpk_> kisuke: thank you!
[05:49] <wrektjet> thetabyte, sorry it is part of the indicator session applet
[05:49] <kisuke> jpk_: NP
[05:49] <Ubiedoodie> am having an issue with Lucid 2.6.32-22 on Dell Laptop.. nm-applet not showing up and no networking is available help plz...
[05:49] <soreau> andresj: I would work on trying to get a fresh install, 32 or 64 bit, since you have the choice
[05:49] <thetabyte> thanks wrek!
[05:50] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, first "ps aux|grep NetworkManager; sudo killall NetworkManager" and let me know if the network manager applet shows up
[05:50] <glick> hey is there a way to set up dual displays by having to monitors attached to two different graphics cards?
[05:50] <soreau> oh yea, I forgot chmod -x `which NetworkManager` :p
[05:51] <thetabyte> is there anyway to remove the system tray from the gnome-panel? like the icons put there by skype, xchat, dropbox, etc.?
[05:51] <glick> one is my nvidia, and the other ine is the internal built in intel one
[05:51] <Ubiedoodie> ok will try
[05:51] <subcool> could anyone help me with a vpn and my iphone?? i was on efnet, but they are hardasses
[05:52] <vikasap> !sound
[05:52] <subcool> hhmm !VPN
[05:52] <andresj> soreau: well at this point it really isn't a choice. i don't have a lot of free time to do it, and i'm getting a new laptop anyway---in which i will have to decide what to install :P
[05:52] <subcool> i tried- lol
[05:53] <soreau> andresj: You might as well use a pay-for OS that requires less time and smarts then
[05:53] <glick> is that possible?
[05:53] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: did as performed but no applet still
[05:54] <hasen> hi, if I'm editing a gtkrc file, can I see changes immediately? or is there a command that I can run to tell the system that gtkrc has changed? (without using a gui)
[05:54] <subcool> here, actually ill explain a bit more-- i was looking for a good ubuntu L2TP server i think. i had installed openvpn- but it didnt work out well.
[05:54] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, can you hook your laptop to a wired connection and: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:55] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, actually -- first, do you know how to use paste?
[05:55] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: the wired connection fails also... this machine is a friends and was running fine. I don't understand what happened..
[05:55] <andresj> soreau: [gasp] "less time and smarts"---just for that i'll keep ubuntu :P No, the choice is between Ubuntu and Fedora. But def keeping linux cuz i love the Unix feel. And MacOSX isn't an option for the price.
[05:56] <randy_> glick: yes, its possible
[05:56] <mcurran> Anyone here know how to write a sort script - I wanna add a startup script in KDE that sorts my desktop icons after a sleep/pause of about 15 seconds at startup (i.e. Autostart folder).  Can anyone help me out?
[05:56] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I am on another machine right now. The problem machine is right next to me
[05:56] <glick> randy_, do you know how i can set that up?
[05:56] <randy_> glick: it can just become really tricky ;)
[05:56] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, the network files get corrupt or misconfigured in dell machines, you have to first configure the wired connection then the wireless connection
[05:56] <soreau> andresj: It will require time, testing, reading many frustrations. Also, segfaults means something is fundamentally wrong which is why I suggest starting over with a clean install
[05:57] <randy_> glick: mostly, its really similar to setting up TwinView or something like that with Nvidia/ATI, etc... but just with two different drivers running two different monitors on two different instances of an Xserver
[05:57] <tucemiux> which file lets you configure your network device???
[05:57] <randy_> glick: lemme see if i can't find something on the interwebs that can help ;)
[05:57] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that makes sense... I will try that. Is there a solution to prevent this again.
[05:58] <glick> thanks i tried a search but couldnt find snything
[05:58] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie,  dont reimage your machine?  Or learn how to fix it?  I've had to fix the wireless every time I reimaged my laptop, once or twice I had to fix the wired connection
[05:58] <Ubiedoodie> ok
[05:58] <randy_> glick: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966 this refers to what you're looking for.  just keep in mind that you're gonna specify *different* drivers for the intel/nvidia obviously
[05:59] <minjoo> how to install gcc 3.x on lucid?
[05:59] <KE1HA> just install build e4ssentials
[05:59] <KE1HA> opps essentials ..
[06:00] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, you want me to show you how to configure your wired nic to dhcp?
[06:00] <KE1HA> then gcc
[06:00] <glick> meh, i was hopiing for a plug and play solution since i will be unplugging this monitor often
[06:00] <racerd> !grub
[06:00] <andresj> soreau: yes, i wonder a lot what it could cause it, though. to prevent it from happening.
[06:00] <randy_> glick: you're gonna want to look carefully at the differences in his xorg file and a 'normal' one.  notice that his file has dual "Device" "Monitor" and "Screen" sections... this is the trick ;)
[06:00] <minjoo> KE1HA, i wanna gcc downgrade :)
[06:00] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: please
[06:00] <glick> thanks randy_
[06:01] <subcool> no vpn'ers
[06:01] <randy_> glick: well, once you've got everything working, it should be relatively easy to specify different resolutions if you're always using the same monitors
[06:01] <thetabyte> is there anyway to remove the system tray from the gnome-panel? like the icons put there by skype, xchat, dropbox, etc.?
[06:01] <KE1HA> Ahh, hold on, I got some notes on that, did that on a box that was finiky about the compiler.
[06:02] <_hoop> System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[06:02] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, edit  "/etc/network/interfaces" , you should have the following two lines in your config: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" --- if you want to see what it looks like head over to:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[06:02] <randy_> glick: simply because you unplug that monitor often shouldn't deter you from setting this up.  once you've got it working, its more of a gnome thing to set up which monitor acts as your primary for the menu's etc...
[06:03] <iaeomm> I need to give someone remote access, with their own account, and sudo powers.  how do I keep them for being able to access my home folder?
[06:03] <_hoop> can someone help me by not sending me a printing guide link and listen to where and what im having for trouble.. perhaps?
[06:03] <subcool> iaeomm, dont give them access :-)
[06:03] <KE1HA> minjoo, here ya go, just modify the versions you want to delete and change sym links as appropriate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29449
[06:03] <minjoo> thanks KE1HA
[06:04] <iaeomm> subcool: i sort of have to.  it's to my benefit.  given these conditions how do i restrict access?
[06:04] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: all I have in it is ' auto lo        iface lo inet loopback '
[06:04] <randy_> glick: for example, i run dual-monitor off one Nvidia card.  My old and crummy monitor--which shows crazy colors occasionally and will die one day--is just a leftward extention of my desktop which for all intensive purposes is completely useless except for the fact that i can watch movies on that monitor, or run commands and such while browsing.  if i unplug it, i only lose my extension but not my whole functionality of my desktop
[06:04] <KE1HA> minjoo, here another one I had marled to "switch between versions": http://www.question-defense.com/2010/03/30/how-to-switch-between-different-versions-of-gcc-and-g-in-backtrack-4-final-or-any-version-of-ubuntu
[06:05] <zruty> I upgraded to 10.04 but now my volume applet seems gone. How to get it back?
[06:05] <KE1HA> opps another one I had marked .. .. ..
[06:05] <iaeomm> Is there a way to encrypt my home folder?  How do I do it?  Users and groups doesn't offer it
[06:05] <subcool> iaeomm, i could tell u if it were windows, im a bit of dunce myself. I am looking for help with something easy as VPN. lol- if u give them access, root access.. best i can think of is to encrypt ur home directory.
[06:05] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, go to the lilnk I gave you and go to the section titled: Setup interface to dhcp -->that's what your file should look like witht hose two lines
[06:05] <minjoo> great
[06:05] <actionparsnip> zruty: run: gnome-volume-control-applet
[06:05] <iaeomm> subcool: how do I do that?
[06:05] <_hoop> can someone help me by not sending me a printing guide link and listen to where and what im having for trouble.. perhaps?
[06:06] <subcool> being the fact u have ur own password- it would a deturrant but, root is root. lol
[06:06] <randy_> glick: regardless, it *will* work ;)
[06:06] <actionparsnip> _hoop: sup?
[06:06] <subcool> idk- i dont encrypt it- i just know its possible.
[06:06] <iaeomm> subcool: even with root acces they can't get through encryption
[06:06] <subcool> i crash too often and have to recover too freaquently to also have to crack my home directory
[06:06] <subcool> nah- but they;ll have access
[06:06] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I setup eth0 auto dhcp now how to restart?
[06:07] <subcool> my user can mess with ur user
[06:07] <subcool> my ROOT can mess with anyone
[06:07] <subcool> its root
[06:07] <_hoop> action... System-Admin..-Printing ... i get that far but i cannot select NEW
[06:07] <zruty> actionparsnip: That works! Will it be there when I restart, too...?
[06:07] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:07] <actionparsnip> zruty: try it
[06:07] <_hoop> action... i have lsusb and know its detecting my printer
[06:07] <zruty> actionparsnip: OK, thanks!
[06:07] <subcool> so even tho ur directory is encoded, he still has the ability to prod at it. If it were just me- i couldnt even see a file size
[06:08] <actionparsnip> _hoop: are you in the lpr group?
[06:08] <iaeomm> CAN someone please tell me how to encrypt my home folder?
[06:08] <_hoop> action.. lpr?
[06:08] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:08] <DrThodt> :/ can someone tell me offhand why ubuntu server 10.04 base install uses so much memory
[06:08] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:09] <niglop> Luija1006:  please dont repeat yourself
[06:09] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that got the eth0 interface looking for dhcp... I am away from my router so I cannot plug in right now... I still wonder where my nm-applet is. or do I have to plug in forst.
[06:09] <Luija1006> sorry
[06:09] <subcool> iaeomm, www.linkux-mag.com/id/7586
[06:09] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, try killing network manager again and hope it works and it gives you an applet
[06:09] <actionparsnip> _hoop: type my nick then press tab. it will highlight my nick just as I am higlighting yours
[06:09] <subcool> linux-mag.com/id/7586
[06:10] <actionparsnip> _hoop: run: groups     what is output?
[06:10] <_hoop> actionparsnip ok
[06:10] <subcool> brb- iaeomm let me know how that goes
[06:11] <_hoop> actionparsnip: i dont see what your speaking of
[06:11] <iaeomm> subcool: er?  Opera Unite...?  what does that have to do with encryption o_o?
[06:11] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: sudo killall NetworkManager or network-manager says no process found....
[06:11] <actionparsnip> _hoop: in a terminal, type: groups    then press enter
[06:12] <_hoop> actionparsnip: ok will do
[06:12] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, use paste bin, REPEAT use paste bin, once again, you will be kicked if you dont use paste bin: what is the output of "iwconfig"
[06:12] <_hoop> groups
[06:12] <_hoop> actionparsnip: ok and what am i looking for?
[06:12] <nimbiotics> hello everybody. I just updated to 10.04 and, upon booting, I'm getting message: "An error occurred while mounting 'blkid. Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery" and booting stops. I tried M once but, not knowing what to do, haven't tried again.  Please notice that the message includes the single quote before blkid; thats not a typo. I was told earlier to remove usbmount and hal...
[06:13] <nimbiotics> ...so ichecked an usbmount is not installed, removed hal and still had same problem so I just installed again. by What can I do?? TIA!
[06:13] <actionparsnip> _hoop: I want you to paste the output here, so we can see it
[06:13] <DrThodt> serious base install, 256mb ram, 14mb free
[06:13] <DrThodt> shouldnt it be the other way?
[06:14] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: working on it...
[06:14] <_hoop> actionparsnip: hoop root adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape sudo dip video plugdev fuse lpadmim admin sambashare
[06:14] <alphagas> anybody up?
[06:14] <tucemiux> !anybody| alphagas
[06:14] <cmdbbq> would anyone care to recommend a DLNA compatible upnp client for ubuntu?
[06:15] <lostinspace_46> Where can i download the Grub Graphical menu Manager?
[06:15] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Sounds like your fstab had things added to it that shouldn't have been.  A LiveCD is your best bet for fixing it.
[06:15] <vikasap> When I do a top , what is this ata/1 that is always running in my system ? Any idea folks ?
[06:15] <skh_> can someone  help me?
[06:15] <tucemiux> troll alert!
[06:15] <andresj> soreau: actually, using gdb i found out that what crashed Inform7 was the graphite library (activated because i have pango-graphite installed). This would explain why it only happened in some GTK apps. I'll start using Gedit and see if this fixes things. ##linux was pretty simple and helpful here :P
[06:15] <actionparsnip> _hoop: why are you in the root group.. weird. anyway you seem to be in the right groups. You could  try running the printer app with gksudo
[06:15] <nimbiotics> Flannel: am a noob, can you please further ecxplain your answer? TIA
[06:16] <alphagas> I am having trouble installing ubuntu :-/  I get a soft-lockup during install.  I've tried about a dozen workarounds and none have produced any results.  I'm using a toshiba A355-S6935
[06:16] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, im going to be adventerous and ask, why do you need GRUB?
[06:16] <actionparsnip> _hoop: although you arent a member of dip: http://serverfault.com/questions/11488/what-are-the-default-groups-assigned-to-the-first-user-in-ubuntu-server
[06:16] <snowrichard> printer -- maybe I should see if my deskjet all in one wokrs
[06:16] <snowrichard> works
[06:16] <alphagas> can someone please help, i've been trying to get this to work for about a week now
[06:16] <nimbiotics> Flannel: hmmm... are you telling me to reinstall 10.04?
[06:17] <tucemiux> alphagas, i once had that problem, what i did is I removed the hard drive from the laptop and installed it on another laptop, installed xubuntu then put the hard drive to the original machine
[06:17] <_hoop> actionparsnip: what you mean " You could  try running the printer app with gksudo
[06:17] <actionparsnip> alphagas: have you MD5 tested your ISO before butrning? Did you burn as slowly as you were allowed? Did you test the CD for defects? Did you test your RAM?
[06:17] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Because I am dual booting...I have grub, I just want the graphical menu manager for it
[06:17] <kasun> alphagas, be little more descriptive. then people who knows it well will respond
[06:17] <Flannel> nimbiotics: No.  But you'll need to get to a state where you can edit your fstab (which is a file), and a LiveCD is probably the easiest way you're going to get there.
[06:17] <snowrichard> printer worked fine, i never had to set it up :)
[06:17] <illac> alphagas: check your hardware and make sure it's compatible, I had an old sony that had similiar issues and it tied back to some proprietary hardware that wasn't compatible
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, i'm not even sure what "Grub Graphical menu Manager" is, but are you using Grub2 (default lucid grub version)? and if so, is your program grub2 compabitle? i doubt it.
[06:18] <actionparsnip> _hoop: maybe your system has a weirdness in it right now, if you run it with gksudo you should be able to install a printer
[06:18] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  if no one in here is able to help you then head over to #grub, this channel is for ubuntu support
[06:18] <nimbiotics> Flannel: and how do i know what should and should not be there?
[06:18] <trereretretr> ..
[06:18] <launch> we are on IRC?
[06:18] <alphagas> this is a pretty new computer.  and I'm kind of new to ubuntu linux.  It's not just 10.04 though, 9.10 and 9.04 won't install either
[06:18] <redalqaeda> aguien habla espanol
[06:18] <redalqaeda> aqui
[06:18] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: try removing usb that is not used
[06:18] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Ag8RyrtV
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> !es | redalqaeda
[06:18] <alphagas> and unfortunately I can't swap my harddrives around to try that method
[06:18] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, yes and yes
[06:19] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Well, from the LiveCD you come back and we'll walk you through it.  It either got something added to it, or it got over written.  If it's the former, we just remove the line with "blkid" on it.  If it's the latter, we'll have to create a new one, which isn't difficult and we can help you do so here.
[06:19] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: its also something do to with the keyboard. regarding the lockup
[06:19] <trereretretr> hu
[06:19] <_hoop> actionparsnip i still dont get what you me running print app? what pring app ... without a terminal command i dont know what your refering
[06:19] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I asked in grub....VERY unresponsive
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, cool, good luck then.
[06:19] <alphagas> rmrfboy something with the keyboard?
[06:20] <nimbiotics> Flannel: could it be just the single quote before 'blkid?
[06:20] <actionparsnip> _hoop: with the app running, run: ps -ef | grep -i print      you will get the command, you can then run: gksudo foo    (replace foo with the application name)
[06:20] <alphagas> rmrfboy: what do you mean remove usb that is not used?
[06:20] <launch> we are on IRC?
[06:20] <illac> alphagas: does the system lock up after install or during?
[06:20] <Flannel> launch: yes.
[06:20] <alphagas> during install
[06:20] <rmrfboy> @alphagas: maybe,maybe not. i experienced that nwhen i installed 10.4.  did it hang after you type something during install?
[06:20] <soreau> andresj: Typically segfaults don't yield useful bt's but it's never a bad idea to run the program with a debugging tool like gdb or valgrind
[06:20] <launch> Flannel, ok thanks
[06:20] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, the problem is nobody is in that room right now, try asking at another time, I once even talked to a grub developer when they first rolled out grub2
[06:20] <Flannel> nimbiotics: "blkid" wouldn't be in that file normally.
[06:21] <nimbiotics> readalqaeda: aqui no se habla espa~ol, y creo que menos con ese nick..
[06:21] <illac> alphagas: does it let you go through the process and lock while copying files or does it lock early on?
[06:21] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, OK but for 4 hrs last night I tried
[06:21] <nimbiotics> Flannel: ok, i'll do that, whats the location of fstab?
[06:21] <rmrfboy> @alphages: e.g. usb drive that is not needed during installation. it "can" cause some lockup in some instance
[06:21] <alphagas> it locks up at a point where it says somethign about "No key to set for <some directory regarding netbook>"
[06:22] <nimbiotics> redalqaeda: aqui no se habla espa~ol, y creo que menos con ese nick..
[06:22] <_hoop> actionparsnip in printing Preferances.... im not connected....
[06:22] <Flannel> nimbiotics: /etc/fstab (so it'll be in whatever partition is your harddrive, then in /etc/ then the "fstab" file)
[06:22] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, this works on my laptop so hopefully it'll work on yours: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid MYWIRELESSROUTER ---> this works on a wireless router with no security, the ssid is MYWIRELESSROUTER, you can change that to your SSID
[06:22] <alphagas> I don't know about removing usb drives from a laptop
[06:22] <launch> arrete de parler en espagnol
[06:22] <nimbiotics> Flannel: ok, thanks, be back in a while
[06:22] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, dont try at the same time, try like around 8PM eastern USA time
[06:22] <illac> alphagas: can you give me the exact text of the error message?
[06:23] <alphagas> sure, I'll have to reboot, be back in about 10 minutes
[06:23] <launch> jai la vessie pleine de pipi jaunatre
[06:23] <actionparsnip> _hoop: connected to what?
[06:23] <Flannel> launch: This channel is english only, thanks.
[06:23] <lostinspace_46> I may not be explaining myself correctly....this    http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format  is what I want.  I just can't seem to get it downloaded.
[06:23] <actionparsnip> !fr | illac
[06:23] <illac> !en | actionparsnip
[06:24]  * rmrfboy
[06:24] <_hoop> actionparsnip localhost... and cannot add
[06:24] <Luija1006> Guys I got no sound when I play runescape (java game). Whats happening?
[06:24] <illac> Luija1006: you've gone deaf :/
[06:24] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, so basically you want to use grub to boot up your OSes?  what OSes are you using?
[06:24] <Luija1006> no
[06:24] <illac> Luija1006: we didn't have the hear to tell ya :(
[06:25] <illac> heart*
[06:25] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: that set the essid... my wireless is WPA2... I see where you are heading though.and I will try and setup the wireless manually..
[06:25] <illac> Luija1006: ;)
[06:25] <Luija1006> can someone help me?
[06:25] <subcool> anyone with experience with VPNS?
[06:25] <redalqaeda> help me plss???????
[06:25] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I am using grub now
[06:25] <Gnea> !helpme
[06:25]  * rmrfboy
[06:25] <lostinspace_46> I want to mod the screen
[06:25] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, that's right, you knock on the wirerless router that way, then ask for an IP: sudo dhclient
[06:25] <Gnea> !ask
[06:26] <illac> subcool: what kind of experience, setting up or connecting?
[06:26] <actionparsnip> _hoop: according to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91MXHasjSM you can select samba...
[06:26] <subcool> hhmm- both. Illac - but ill go with setting up..
[06:26] <Gnea> Luija1006: is sound working for any other java apps?
[06:26] <KE1HA> subcool, have you been though this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[06:26] <Ubiedoodie> tucemiux: I appreciate your help... it is getting late and I am tired I will hit it from that direction..  gnite
[06:26] <illac> subcool: !info | vpnc
[06:26] <subcool> i have experience with windows,
[06:26] <tucemiux> Ubiedoodie, i found a guide that shows you how to do it
[06:26] <Luija1006> Gnea: let me try frostwire
[06:27] <illac> !info vpnc | subcool
[06:27] <subcool> well- thats the client side, i really need a server.
[06:27] <subcool> and from what i see i need L2TP
[06:27] <_hoop> anyone on Teamspeak3? thank knows anything about CUPs and PRINTing
[06:27] <illac> subcool: my client of choice, but we only run Cisco stuff for work, that's my only experience :/
[06:27] <subcool> i wish my sh!t box could handle IPSec
[06:27] <subcool> ya, im a cisco man myself, its just a bit of a hassle
[06:28] <KE1HA> Cicso is costs $$$ but it has the best support. It's what we use also.
[06:28] <subcool> maybe when i start working with stuff that that requires the encryption
[06:28] <subcool> nah- i know a bunch about cisco, and its really easy
[06:28] <subcool> just lenghty
[06:28] <alphagas> illac: are you still here?
[06:29] <subcool> i took a cople classes, it makes complete sense,
[06:29] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Just curious..how do you know no one is in the grub channel, since it is listing 62 users?
[06:29] <subcool> i hate this keyboard- wtf.
[06:29] <tucemiux> !ot | subcool
[06:29] <subcool> lol-
[06:29] <illac> alphagas: yea
[06:29] <KE1HA> I've read OpenVPN is a descent solution as well, but not used it myself.
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> !lol > subcool
[06:29] <subcool> ok, well i still need that server..
[06:30] <subcool> hahaha- oh jease guys. come on.
[06:30] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  if youre not getting any response then for your purposes nobody is in the grub channel
[06:30] <illac> !ohjease > subcool
[06:30] <illac> subcool: I kidd
[06:30] <subcool> tucemiux well we have to give them time to respond
[06:30] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Got ya
[06:30] <KE1HA> subcool, here's on I had bookmarked for VPN server install: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=132029
[06:30] <alphagas> ok, the last thing that I see is "No value to set for key: '/apps/netbook-launcher/favorites/favorites_list' then BUG: soft lockup – CPU#0 stuck for 61s! BUG: soft lockup – CPU#1 stuck for 61s!
[06:31] <illac> alphagas: hmmm
[06:31] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, so you want to install grub in your machine?
[06:31] <subcool> and between explaining what we are working on we are discussing other things, Liek the ussage of cisco- So as i had state from before, thatnks for the clients. im obviously gonna need it, but i was look for the assistance for the server side software. Which is what seems to be the issue.
[06:32] <alphagas> illac, I have seen many threads and posts about having this problem on toshiba laptops and some workarounds but none of them work for me
[06:32] <illac> alphagas: give me a few minutes to dig around and see what I can turn up
[06:32] <alphagas> everything from trying to install karmic and update that way etc, but even that won't install, I just get a black screen
[06:32] <subcool> illac,  its cool - lol. im ok with it.  It just comes out this way- i dont proof read.
[06:33] <KE1HA> subcool, OpenVPN Server Instal on 8.04 Example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[06:33] <kurtis> Hello.
[06:33] <subcool> KE1HA, sorry, already said i cant use that
[06:33] <subcool> i already have it
[06:33] <subcool> and it doesnt work wiht my setup.
[06:33] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, No, I have grub installed. It works fine. But it is UGLY black and white.   http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format The app here is a graphical manager for grub.  Umm..front end??
[06:33] <KE1HA> Oh, sri, what VPN applicaiton are you using on the server side?
[06:33] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you have grub legacy or grub2?
[06:33] <alphagas> ok
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> subcool, last one i promise
[06:33] <ZykoticK9> !enter > subcool
[06:34] <lostinspace_46> grub 2..grub 1.98
[06:34] <illac> subcool: same, I got booted from offtopic for mentioning wiki leaks earlier :/
[06:34] <subcool> ubottu- get off my butt for saying lol
[06:34] <illac> !nazis > subcool
[06:34] <subcool> im not going to spell out laughing out loud
[06:34] <illac> subcool: ;)
[06:35] <greezmunkey> lostinspace_46: seems like a lot of fuss for something that you only see once in a while. And, what if the script fails - you are going to be back in here asking for help to get your box to boot...I'm just sayin'...
[06:35] <Flannel> illac: Please stop that.
[06:35] <illac> Flannel: roger that red leader
[06:36] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, ive never tried it but it looks like fun, if you dont mind me using as a guinea pig we can both look at that site and we can go step by step, I need to remind you though that if you hose your installation you might have to reinstall grub
[06:36] <illac> alphagas: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8407323
[06:36] <subcool> lol- ugh this machine is soooo slow- im trying to load that webpage, and it just wont go. brb- im going to go get my laptop
[06:36] <illac> alphagas: give that a shot?
[06:36] <lostinspace_46> greezmunkey, I can boot my box just fine, TY.  I just asked if someone knew where to D/L the app
[06:36] <Boondoc> join my new channel at irc.wyldryde.org and join #RiotChat
[06:37] <kurtis> So with #!Crunchbang does it matter what Emulator I use or is WINE perfectly fine?~
[06:37] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Well, you any good with bazaar...the app is there, I just can't seem to get it
[06:37] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46,  you dont want to download an ***app***.  You want to make grub2 look pretty, that is what you are trying to do, if you use the correct terminology people might help you specially the ones that have done that
[06:37] <lostinspace_46> tuc feel free to PM
[06:37] <alphagas> illac: well, I'm not trying to install the netbook version :-/ and I'm installing off of a CD
[06:37] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, sudo apt-get install bzr ???
[06:38] <KE1HA> kurtis, wine + PlayOnLinux is a good combination.
[06:38] <illac> alphagas: hmmm k, I shall keep digging
[06:38] <kurtis> I have been using Unbuntu for the last 2 years and I feel its time to switch it up
[06:38] <kurtis> Going to be using #!Crunchbang as my new gaming OS, just wanted to make sure everything was still compatiable
[06:38] <drcasper> guys .. one quick question only.. i have a vaio laptop i just bought a SSD drive for .. what partition format should i be using.. f4 f3?
[06:38] <KE1HA> I was suprised, after a few tweeks, 10.04 is really pretty good.
[06:39] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, first you want to download images and put them in "/grub/themes/icons", there shoud be a directory in your hard drive named that way
[06:39] <Gnea> drcasper: what's F3/F4?
[06:39] <KE1HA> exty4 is not much diffrent that ext3 in my opinion, but there's advocates of both.
[06:39] <drcasper> ext4. sorry ..
[06:39] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I don't want to get too off-topic in channel...but I will rephrase..I don't need an app I need software that makes grub pretty...better?
[06:39] <KE1HA> I went with the default EXT4 .. but have several machines running EXT3
[06:40] <Gnea> drcasper: ext4 should do just fine
[06:40] <actionparsnip> drcasper: ext2 will make it last longer
[06:40] <greezmunkey> tucemiux: http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/DistroDownloads#Ubuntu
[06:40] <drcasper> thanks guys ..:)
[06:40] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, what OS are you using?
[06:40] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:41] <_hoop> actionparsnip wow.... simple.... [ sudo service cups restart  ]
[06:41] <ubuser> hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me? I am trying to find a snes emulator that will work on ubuntu 5.10, i know its an old version, i also dont have internet on this computer
[06:41] <drcasper> well.. i bought a SSD drive to see if it would be any faster but i gotta tell you, either the drive i bought is crap (branded patriot) or there is just very little difference on this particular laptop compared toa 72k rpm HD
[06:41] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, AHA..I am not clear..I have changed my background already...this software allows changing fro text to icons, and completely channging the LOOK of grub without changing the functionality
[06:41] <ubuser> right now i am trying zsnes and i got all the dependcies on a cd, but i want to download another emulator just to make sure
[06:41] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:42] <SwedeMike> drcasper: then you probably bought the wrong one, because I have intel ssd:s in "all" my machines and it's a huge difference.
[06:42] <actionparsnip> _hoop: makes, sense. Ive seen a few folks say their cups wasn't running at boot. If you reboot and it's stopped, add "service cups restart"   (without quotes) to /etc/rc.local   above the exit line and it should fix it
[06:42] <sparky> ntu 64 bit yet?
[06:42] <ubuser> does anyone know of a snes emulator that will work for ubuntu 5.10 hopefully no dependencys
[06:42] <actionparsnip> !find snes | ubuser
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> SwedeMike, does ubuntu currently support trim?
[06:42] <sparky> any body figure out how to get by flash on ubuntu 64 bit ?
[06:42] <KE1HA> drcasper, SSD are very fast, you will not see a diff in EXT3 or EXT4, but you will certainly see a Vast improvemnt over 5400 / 7200 rom drives.
[06:42] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  If I can't D/L the graphical manager, I guess I will find the correct .mod files to change
[06:42] <actionparsnip> ubuser: snes9x-gtk
[06:43] <SwedeMike> ZykoticK9: 10.10 might, I don't remember. Check the kernel version of each release, but I seem to remember it came around 2.6.33 or so
[06:43] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you can basically configure your grub on your own, I wouldnt trust an application to do it for me
[06:43] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: still uses slow ass SATA conections though so is capped at 300Mbps
[06:43] <mercury_halo> how to disable the scroll wheel of the mouse?
[06:43] <Gnea> actionparsnip: interesting... have you read this? http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/01/ssds-journaling-and-noatimerelatime/
[06:43] <ubuser> will i need to install some dependcys
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> SwedeMike, so that's a no.  Thanks, i was just googling about it before i read your reply above, thought i'd just ask :)
[06:44] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, but if you insist on an application to do it for you then why dont you google for it, you dont want to tell me what OSes you use so im showing you the way I would do it on ubuntu
[06:44] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, You are prolly right..like I said I will see if I can find the right grub files to modify
[06:44] <KE1HA> rogetr that, but 3gbs vls 100mbs is a massive improvement.
[06:44] <spine> hi, is anyone here very familiar with kismet?
[06:44] <lostinspace_46> Sorry Win7 and ubuntu lucid
[06:45] <KE1HA> Bott times are amazing, especially on Linux boxes, even with the Bloated Vista Machines I was astounded.
[06:45] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, grub is grub, whatever OS you use it is still grub, there might be a few differences though, like how you name the files but it's still grub, no doubt about it
[06:45] <KE1HA> oops boot times..
[06:45] <actionparsnip> Gnea: funky stuff. I tried to use the noatime option and it made my partition not mount
[06:45] <drcasper> guys do i need a swap file partition with a ssd ?
[06:45] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, you have ubuntu lucid installed on your machine???
[06:45] <spine> is anyone here very familiar with kismet?
[06:46] <Gnea> actionparsnip: o.O
[06:46] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: look at PCIexpress SDcard readers ;) FAST!
[06:46] <ubuser> wow thx parsnip
[06:46] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Well that is how I looked at it...I guess I will open s couple .mod files and see if I can make the changes I want there...it's all just cosmetics
[06:46] <ubuser> u think itll work on ub 5.1?
[06:46] <KE1HA> rrr will do, not used them before.
[06:47] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Yes lucid is installed
[06:47] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, if you want to install bazaar: sudo apt-get install bzr
[06:47] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: or pciexpress raid controllers controlling SSD drives. very fast indeed
[06:47] <sparky> any one know hoe to get a lap top mic to work for skype
[06:47] <ubuser> actionpar, do you think this snes will run on ubuntu 5.1
[06:47] <kurtis> Is anyone Familiar with #!Brunchbang Linux? Trying to find an easy way to get all my drivers without having to go from site to site
[06:48] <bazhang> ubuser, 5.10?
[06:48] <ubuser> zsnes need libpng,nasm,sdl and zlib
[06:48] <actionparsnip> ubuser: what's ubuntu 5.1, hoary?
[06:48] <ubuser> yeah, snes9x-1.4
[06:48] <ubuser> 1.5
[06:48] <illac> alphagas: I'm not sure man, that's a slippery one
[06:48] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, Not wanting to look dumber than i already do..heheh..I got bzr, I just can't figure out how to download the package
[06:48] <bazhang> ubuser, that is not supported
[06:48] <illac> alphagas: still looking
[06:48] <alphagas> illac :-/ bummer
[06:48] <ubuser> i know its old, but its all updated
[06:48] <ubuser> but no internet
[06:48] <ubuser> sound works and all
[06:49] <ubuser> its got python 2.4 gcc and other stuff
[06:49] <spine> anyone here good with kismet??
[06:49] <bazhang> ubuser, upgrade to a recent version if you wish support
[06:49] <kisuke> !wicd
[06:49] <ubuser> do you think itll work tho..?
[06:49] <kisuke> !network manager
[06:49] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I think I will check the bazaar channel
[06:49] <KE1HA> actionparsnip, 512 GB Drive 2200 Bucks LOL... not anytiem soo here :-)
[06:49] <actionparsnip> ubuser: if you can satisfy deps, sure why not
[06:49] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, thats ok, dont worry aboutit, just ask away -- I dont know what package youre trying to download so cant help you there, usually they tell you how to do it if they use bazaar, but for now you can install a GUI that will help you modify grub to get you started
[06:50] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: only need a 10Gb one for / your user data rubbish can go on a SATA as speed is less necessary
[06:50] <hylian> after the update today i noticed that firebird greyes out the screen a lot, and that closing tabs also slows things down and greyes it.
[06:50] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  This app   http://grub.gibibit.com/Theme_format
[06:50] <kurtis> Is anyone Familiar with #!Brunchbang Linux? Trying to find an easy way to get all my drivers without having to go from site to site
[06:50] <ubuser> say i went to download some for ubuntu, what platform is it
[06:50] <KE1HA> would be nice to play with fer sure :-)_
[06:50] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, And it IS in a bazaar branch
[06:50] <bazhang> kurtis, try #crunchbang as its not supported here
[06:50] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, sudo apt-get install startupmanager ---> use startupmanager to change GRUB, if grub still doesnt look fancy enough then you can tru something more, before you do any changes to your grub, read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[06:51] <kurtis> Alright.
[06:51] <ubuser> im actually on 9.10 so its cool
[06:51] <bazhang> ubuser, if thats the case then it should work
[06:51] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I have done all the startupmanager allows
[06:51] <ubuser> linux works under ubuntu
[06:52] <ubuser> but i want the snes .e*e on my desktop
[06:52] <bazhang> ubuser,  a launcher?
[06:52] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, ok first lets download the software then, fire up a command prompt and go to a place where you want to download all the software, let me know when youre ready
[06:52] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: also if you use the toram cheat code for your OS, and have enough ram, you wont even touch the drive for OS activity as its already in ram
[06:52] <ubuser> yeah
[06:52] <ubuser> not a shortcut
[06:52] <ubuser> the whole snesx source
[06:52] <ubuser> but i dont know which to choose, linux?
[06:53] <bazhang> ubuser, that's not the way to install or run things
[06:53] <ubuser> i use terminal
[06:53] <KE1HA> ram is definately better than SSD, and it's cheap these days.
[06:53] <ubuser> it is from a cd
[06:53] <hylian> anyone else notice how slow firefox is? seamonkey is unaffected and so is epiphany...?
[06:54] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: exactly, its one thing that makes puppy great :)
[06:54] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, I am more than ready...but shouldn't we do this with PM?
[06:54] <KE1HA> Yes, FF has been slow on all the machines I've put 10.04 on, have not figured out why yet.
[06:54] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, this is how you download the branch for that software: bzr branch http://grub.gibibit.com/bzr/gfxmenu
[06:54] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: you can make the ubuntu live cd do it too with some tweaks
[06:54] <ubuser> what was ubuntu written in/with
[06:55] <actionparsnip> ubuser: C and machine code most likely
[06:55] <hylian> well thanx all, im gonna crash
[06:55] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, here is fine, i  have never done this before so you want as much input as you can get
[06:55] <hylian> !bye
[06:55] <KE1HA> rr. I PXE boot about 15 machines for crunching numbers, works a treat with UB-Server. Exported /homes to an HD
[06:55] <actionparsnip> KE1HA: try arora or swiftfox or midori
[06:56] <KE1HA> I loaded Arora this eveing, haven't played with it much yet though.
[06:56] <spine> anyone here good with kismet?
[06:56] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, and thats it,  that should download all the stuff that you want, next comes the fun part, configuring it, good luck!
[06:57] <ubuser> well i surely hope tar.bz2's open on ubuntu it doesnt play avi's
[06:57] <KE1HA> ubuser, what do you mean written in ?
[06:57] <ubuser> without CODEC anyway
[06:57] <ubuser> idk
[06:57] <ubuser> linux works on it
[06:57] <ubuser> with*
[06:57] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux,  Maybe I did this wrong, I got this  bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://grub.gibit.com/bzr/gfxmenu/.bzr/branch-format: Unable to handle http code 400: Bad Request
[06:58] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, OOPS I see what I did wrong
[06:58] <ubuser> there 10 emu's one should work wish me luck
[06:59] <ubuser> + deps for zsnes
[06:59] <nimbiotics> Flannel: here's my fstab (http://dpaste.com/222625/) and this is the result of blkid (http://dpaste.com/222626/) Hope you can help. TIA!
[07:00] <Flannel> nimbiotics: The second line, put a # in front of it.
[07:00] <Flannel> nimbiotics: ("Use 'blkid -o....)
[07:00] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, if you still have more problems downloading the software: http://grub.gibibit.com/bzr/
[07:01] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, There..seems to be downloading now...may take awhile..this Phils internet connection is not too good
[07:01] <ubuser> 60kbs a sec to a flash drive, sad
[07:01] <ubuser> omg a 100
[07:01] <IdleOne> ubuser: Do you have a support question or just feel like complaining and giving us a play by play?
[07:02] <spine> lol does anyone where i can get support for kismet?
[07:02] <ubuser> nah good on 9.10 side
[07:02] <juju2143> ok now how I install radeonfb?
[07:02] <kaeles> so i installed lucid lynx on my htpc to replace the xbmc live cd i had been running for like 6 months now, and it works fine other than the sound will cut out after using it for awhile, for example, if I click on the sounds in the sound preference over and over for ~5 seconds, the sound cuts out, and is replaced by really scratchy deep sounds instead of the glass or barking or whatnot, its weird, never had an issue with xmbc live,
[07:02] <tucemiux> lostinspace_46, bazaar could also just be taking its time, good luck!  If you need more help you want to ask for someone to help you configure grub2 for eye candy,  good night
[07:03] <nimbiotics> Flannel: thanks, will try that and let you know in 10
[07:04] <kaeles> anyone have a clue as to what would cause my sound to stop working correctly after playing sounds for ~5 to 30 seconds?
[07:04] <tucemiux> kaeles, sounds (no pun intended) like a bug with pulseaudio
[07:04] <subcool> KE1HA, hey- sorry about before, i was looking for the one i was trying to give flak to- and then i saw u said that, and i was like crap- my bad.
[07:04] <kaeles> tucemiux: ok, so how would i go about changing back to alsa, if thats possible?
[07:04] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux, It's working..don't know how long it will take at 5-38kbs though.  38kbs is my top right now..upgrading to a whole 1meg tomorrow...wooohooo
[07:04] <KE1HA> no worries, been frustrated many times myself.
[07:07] <kaeles> maybe I will try turning on the realtime scheduling for the pulseaudio and see if that helps
[07:07] <kaeles> it only seems to cut out when i am making the machine "work"
[07:08] <lostinspace_46> tucemiux Sry, closed the wrong window
[07:08] <Lazy^> hello, how i can extract all .rar files from a directory. Since i have 5 different .rar sets in same directory
[07:09] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Right click on the file you want, and select opens with..then .RAR
[07:10] <Lazy^> in terminal =)
[07:10] <Lazy^> i dont have X
[07:10] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Although I think i will open with archive manager
[07:10] <Lazy^> with X np, but in terminal
[07:10] <Lazy^> unrar x <but which parameters, so it opens all the files>
[07:11] <lostinspace_46> Lazy..hmmm   not sure how to open all at once
[07:12] <lostinspace_46> Lazy Just open one at a time I guess..heheh
[07:12] <Lazy^> takes 4ever
[07:12] <Lazy^> grr
[07:13] <lostinspace_46> Lazy maybe unrar path/to/file    use *.rar for filename
[07:13] <KE1HA> Lazy, do yourself a favor, and install all those compression utilities, 7zip,  rar, lrzip p7zip etc, there small and save lots of nagging problems like that
[07:14] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, I think he is using strictly command line
[07:14] <lostinspace_46> no GUI
[07:15] <KE1HA> even more reason to install them, atleast those that have CL ability.
[07:15] <nio> hello all
[07:15] <kaeles> did they switch to pulseaudio only in lucid?
[07:16] <kaeles> I mean, did they switch to using pulse audio in lucid, or was it used before
[07:16] <nio> which is the best for thinclient tmpfs or ramfs
[07:17] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, Ah, I see what you mean, I think he has at least rar since he can run unrar...his issue I think was opening several files at once
[07:18] <KE1HA> I woud do, at a minimum: sudo aptitude install unace rar unrar zip unzip
[07:19] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, I agree....so very handy
[07:19] <KE1HA> maybe even  p7zip-full p7zip-rar uudeview mpack lha arj
[07:19] <KE1HA> the first ones I have on all my headless servers.
[07:20] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA,  sudo apt-get install *.decompress
[07:20] <lostinspace_46> LOL
[07:20] <KE1HA> I mostly use tar and gzip or bz2 for daily stuff
[07:21] <lostinspace_46> KE1HA, Yeah, same here, except im my family's win install where I use rar
[07:21] <nio> i am trying to make a custom kernel based on ubuntu10.04lts for diskless thinclient I am getting a problem unable to mount /proc and /sys on tmpfs and cannot find init..... trying to kill init. i checked several time and provided boot=initrd to the boot option. any help is deeply appriciated
[07:21] <lostinspace_46> gotta run for a while...later
[07:22] <nimbiotics> Flannel: i havent been able to edit fstab ... can you please tell me how?
[07:22] <Flannel> nimbiotics: Are you on the LiveCD still?
[07:22] <nio> sudo gedit fstab
[07:22] <nio> sorry sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:23] <Flannel> nio: Should always use gksu or gksudo with graphical programs
[07:23] <nio> hmmm i was using sudo only
[07:23] <nio> thankx
[07:23] <KE1HA> command line: VIM or Nano .. simple and very effective.
[07:23] <kaeles> this is making my brain hurt, its so random as to whether I have sound issues or not, I even disabled pulseaudio in the startup programs
[07:23] <nio> flannel did you read my problm above
[07:24] <nimbiotics_> Flannel: sorry, lost connection
[07:24] <Flannel> nimbiotics_: No worries.  Are you still on your liveCD session?
[07:24] <KE1HA> nio, these are going to be PXE boot thin clients ?
[07:24] <nio> yes
[07:25] <nio> i am working for 1 week day and night
[07:26] <nio> the problem is in init program but could not able to solve and point out
[07:26] <Lazy^> KE1HA: this works: ls *.rar | xargs -i unrar x {}
[07:26] <spine> is anyone here experienced with kismet?
[07:26] <KE1HA> nio, I dont know the exact problem, but here's the guide I used when testing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto
[07:26] <nio> recent status the client boots and leave me with the status unable to find init
[07:27] <nimbiotics> Flannel: no, i'm not, but i just did edit fstab. as nio pointed out, i was omitting sudo. let me reboot and i'll let you know what hapenned
[07:27] <KE1HA> Lazy, yes that will unrar allot of things if it finds it :-)
[07:29] <abcba> fujfhxdazs
[07:29] <kisuke> does any one have any idea how to fix "association took too long" errors?
[07:30] <abcba> ;jn;l'
[07:30] <KE1HA> kisuke, are you using WPA wireless? is that where the error is happening?
[07:30] <iflema> spine you wireless card must support promiscuous/monitor mode....... and your straying offtopic...
[07:31] <spine> it supports it
[07:31] <oaf> how to change crontab's default editor into Vim?
[07:31] <spine> i'm just having trouble with the software itself
[07:31] <spine> not the hardware or drivers
[07:31] <iflema> spine this is not the place.
[07:32] <kisuke> KE1HA: one sec and i will paste bin the last 30 lines of /var/logs/daemon.log
[07:32] <Flannel> oaf: in your bashrc, add export EDITOR=vim (assuming you want it to stick)
[07:32] <spine> k
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Oaf: http://www.netadmintools.com/art395.html
[07:32] <nio> flannel thanks for the link but i don't want ltsp reason it need linux only server and uses nfs actually i want complete thinclient os on the ram and client works independently aftr boot process
[07:32] <oaf> thanks all
[07:32] <Lazy^> KE1HA: yep, from that directory =). That was the thing which i were looking for
[07:33] <KE1HA> kisuke, first though, is this a wireless conneciton error? if not wehre / when is the error happening, and what Ubuntu Version are we talkign about here?
[07:33] <kurtis> What other program do you use with WINE thats good for online gaming?
[07:34] <KE1HA> nio, i think you want a straight netboot solutino, let me have a look in my files here.
[07:34] <phenrique> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive? Can you boot in another machine with no problems or no problem of drivers? It is totally impractical to boot in another machine or not?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: world of warcraft, halflife based games, return to castle wolfenstein. Check the appdb under the games filter
[07:35] <kisuke> KE1HA: ubuntu 10.04 netboook remix, and yes it is a wlan problem, now that the darn thing (mostly) works
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> phenrique: will be fine provided you don't have an xorg.conf defined
[07:35] <kurtis> Where do I look for that sir? I don't know what that is.
[07:35] <KE1HA> kisuke, there's a bug in the wpasuplicant aps, a couple actually.
[07:35] <kisuke> !appdb | kurtis
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | kurtis
[07:35] <roved2101> yeehaa
[07:36] <kurtis> Thank you guys for your quick replys and help! :)
[07:36] <nio> not all program runs with wine
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: there are native online games too like urbanterror and alienarena
[07:36] <krish> guys how to turn off screen lock feature
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: there's also quakelive which runs in flash
[07:36] <kisuke> KE1HA: ther is also a kernel regression that makes getting broadcom 43xx wireless chipsets working ...painful
[07:37] <nio> i tried to run rdp v6 on wine but it don't work
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> krish: when does it occur?
[07:37] <nio> Ke1ha are you giving me something :)
[07:37] <nio> i am waiting
[07:37] <krish> ActionParsnip: every 5-10 mins
[07:38] <krish> i want to disable it
[07:38] <kisuke> KE1HA: pastebin.ubuntu.com/470113
[07:38] <krish> if left idle i dont want screen to lock
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Krish: so it just locks and you have to enter your password?
[07:38] <krish> ActionParsnip: yeah
[07:38] <krish> but this is inside a VM
[07:38] <krish> my vm is always on
[07:38] <nimbiotics> Flannel: That fixed two big issues, thanks un bunch!!!
[07:39] <krish> my base OS i dont mind getting locked
[07:39] <krish> but everytime i need to unlock the vm
[07:39] <krish> brb
[07:39] <KE1HA> kisuke, VM? what's the base OS?
[07:40] <kisuke> KE1HA: ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix, on a dell 910 netbook
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> krish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466504
[07:40] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:40] <kisuke> KE1HA: its not a VM
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> how do I get the "pretty" exe thumbnailer
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: add the wine ppa maybe?
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> ahhh
[07:41] <KE1HA> kisuke, ok, so this is a native install on your Dell Notebook yes?
[07:41] <ShapeShifter499> I did not know I needed that
[07:41] <kisuke> KE1HA: yes
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: mine does it and I use that version so I'm guessing its what is needed
[07:42] <KE1HA> rr, send in the bug report, as the wpa aps has a few issues.
[07:42] <nimbiotics> Flannel: Again, thank you very much. I've stil got at least half a dozen issues after upgrade to 10.04, but thats all for me today. I need a break. God bless you
[07:43] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip: thanks I'll try that
[07:43] <KE1HA> I've read a couple bug reports on the wpasuplicant applicaitno, but its not accross all NIC's.
[07:43] <nio> ke1ha if you peek inside the kernel /script/local is the file which is used when we work on the system with hdd i write my own file named init and pass the argument to the kernel but still it says no init. may be it is due to some wrong command for mounting the virtual file system
[07:43] <HeTaL> Anyone here with basic WEP cracking knowledge?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !ot | HeTaL
[07:43] <songer> hello
[07:43] <kisuke> HeTaL: try #aircrack or #aircrack-ng
[07:43] <bazhang> HeTaL, offtopic for this network and channel
[07:44] <bazhang> kisuke, they wont like it there either
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !hi | songer
[07:44] <HeTaL> Arigato.
[07:44] <KE1HA> nio, that would be my "guess" or it's not getting the correct VFS location
[07:44] <kisuke> baz and they wont why?
[07:44] <bazhang> kisuke, offtopic for the network
[07:44] <songer> i neeed  help to use a cell phone as modem fom metro pcs
[07:45] <KE1HA> but, it's its starting to boot, then it's found the kernel, and the file system structure is not being passed or located correctly, which is odd.
[07:45] <kisuke> !mobile broadband | songer
[07:45] <nio> ke1ha what is your base ox
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> kisuke: factoids don't hve spaces
[07:45] <songer> yes kisuke
[07:45] <kisuke> KE1HA: any ideas?
[07:45] <KE1HA> nio, for what, my servers?
[07:45] <nio> your os
[07:46] <nio> uname -r
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> songer: telling folks the make /model is good too ;)
[07:46] <KE1HA> nio, on the PXE's they are all on 8.04-server-64 at the moment, several desktoips on 10.04 and laptops on 10.04, bnut the boot sequence and file structure would be the same on either version.
[07:47] <songer> moto ve240 is motorola
[07:47] <songer> ActionParsnip,
[07:47] <KE1HA> kisuke, not much I can do on this one im affraid, if it's working, yet intermitently, they your setup and config is correct, and like I said earlier, there's a couple of bugs in the WPA applicaitons.
[07:48] <kisuke> KE1HA: any ideas where i can get the nightlys?
[07:48] <nio> actually i had sucessfully make diskless tc on 8.04 hady but the performance of rdesktop is too slow i really don't know the reason
[07:48] <KE1HA> kisuke, I dont use them, too many troubles as it is, but hold on, will have a look.
[07:49] <nio> thats why i am trying completely on 10.04lts
[07:49] <kisuke> KE1HA: thanks
[07:49] <songer> gnome ppp say:  Invalid dial command
[07:50] <glaksmono> anyone here?
[07:50] <KE1HA> kisuke, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[07:50] <odb|fidel> glaksmono: ask a real question
[07:50] <KE1HA> Dont shout if it breaks :-)
[07:50] <glaksmono> for some reason, my VI isn't setup properly on the keyboard
[07:50] <glaksmono> when i press up arrow for example, it types A, and such
[07:51] <glaksmono> can't do backspace..
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Glaksmono: scroll lock or numlock make a difference at all?
[07:52] <glaksmono> ActionParsnip, nope :(
[07:53] <nio> ke1hai had hardy on laptop i directly run the rdesktop it is still slow. i tried to update rdesktop from 1.5 to 1.6 but there is no update available with the synaptic nor through apt-get so i manually complle the application but still rdesktop perform poor and in low bandwith it disconnects as compare to my fedora9. i am completely fed up and so i install latst 10.04 ubuntu and make it a base
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> glaksmono: any hidden files in $HOME to configure the app?
[07:53] <glaksmono> hmmm
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Nio: instead of compiling I recommend searching the ppas first
[07:53] <glaksmono> hmmm.. home as in ~ right?
[07:53] <glaksmono> yeah, of course..
[07:53] <KE1HA> glaksmono, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup This will re-install the console-tools package, which will remap your keyboard layout if you select something different.
[07:54] <KE1HA> or in this case, may reset what is clearly out of whack.
[07:54] <therealpsychx> Trying to load Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a Gateway 4540 laptop, and no matter if I boot or install Ubuntu - it just goes to a black screen. It shows the splash screen for Ubuntu, then when it's done loading (confirmed in the text based boot) it goes to a black screen. I can not get to desktop.
[07:55] <nio>  ppas has the solution for 64 bit machine only
[07:55] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, have you been able to boot completely with the Live-CD ?
[07:55] <nio> i searched for 1 day
[07:55] <glaksmono> KE1HA, my keyboard model isn't there :(*
[07:55] <glaksmono> i'm using Sony FZ-4000
[07:55] <KE1HA> glaksmono, try a standad keyboard or is it a laptop ?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[07:55] <glaksmono> KE1HA, it's a laptop
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: its a known issue
[07:56] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: The Live-CD is doing the same thing. It will show the splash, then go to black.
[07:56] <KE1HA> Pick a generic Lappy first and see what the affect is.
[07:56] <glaksmono> KE1HA, it's a Generic 105-key
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: a quick websearch would have given you the link I gave ^
[07:56] <kisuke> ok thats it im building from source
[07:57] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, Which one, the Keytboard or Black-Screen issue ?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: black screen
[07:57] <KE1HA> rr tnx, didn't know that. is it on Laptops & desktops?
[07:57] <mae_tae> people...whats wrong with this tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36  <--- it says "NOT FOUND IN THE ARCHIVE", what does this mean?
[07:57] <mae_tae> please help me please
[07:57] <glaksmono> :(
[07:58] <therealpsychx> The link that ACtionParsnip did not work.
[07:58] <flowbee__> hey when i resize my terminal window AFTER i ssh'd into a server.  the text doesnt extend to new space;  it stpuidly overwrites the beginning of line. how to fix?
[07:58] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: The link that ActionParsnip provided, did not work.
[07:59] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, did not work meaning it did not fix the problem, or the link didn't work ?
[08:00] <spartan07> hey guys is it hard to enable 2 video cards in ubuntu 10.04? I want to setup 3 displays. Both vid cards are identical and 1 is working right now but when I stick the other in I get a panic @ boot
[08:00] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, also, look at Solutions-3 if there's no .conf file, you need to get a generic one in there somehow.
[08:01] <spartan07> is this something that needs to be done @ install time?
[08:02] <nuwan> i have a problem installing kubuntu-desktop from synaptic or tru apt-get in ubuntu 10.04... it gives the error saying unable to fetch paackage
[08:02] <KE1HA> spartan07, no, typically you will need to install restricted drivers, Post-Install, Example, My 2x 9800GT's played on a generic VID driver, then I loaded the Nvidia drivers after updates.
[08:02] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Sorry, was messing with the laptop. I meant that the solution did not work.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Nuwan: try using a different source under software sources
[08:02] <mae_tae> people...whats wrong with this tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36  <--- it says "NOT FOUND IN THE ARCHIVE", what does this mean?
[08:03] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: like ?
[08:03] <spartan07> KE1HA, im running nvidia R Drivers right now
[08:03] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: It seems to be stopping on: "Setting Sensors Limits" and says "[ok]"...
[08:03] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, you need to boot the live CD. mount your HD file system and check to see if you ahve an xorg.conf file.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: the main server instead of the more local one selected, or the gb one if you don't already use it
[08:03] <spartan07> just found this thread but hes talking about 2 different cards http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53966
[08:04] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: How do I mount the HD file system?  I'll search for it at the same time.
[08:04] <KE1HA> spartan07, is the system working properly now then ?>
[08:04] <nuwan> ActionParsnip:  shall i send u a copy of error message i get ?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: just a different source, any will do
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: my connect is dog slow, it'd be faster by pigeon. Sorry
[08:05] <spartan07> yea this is the one im on now. running fine 10.04 all updates. I was thinking of putting in the other card fireing it up and reconfiguring x but it gives me a panic @ boot
[08:05] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: ok thanks i will try and see now will let you know.. thanks
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: if its stuff like: cannot find package x and so-on then the new source will probably solve it
[08:05] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, how do i fix that command?
[08:05] <mae_tae> please help me please
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: fix what command?
[08:06] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, this one, tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36
[08:06] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, just use the file browser from the Live-CD, but you may run into fole permission issues when you copy the xorg.conf if its not done as sudo
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: no idea, what are you trying to achieve?
[08:06] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, this one tar xjf ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 -C / touch  /var/run/need-depmod-2.4.36 <----- it says not found in archive
[08:07] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: As long as I run as sudo then I should be fine?
[08:07] <spartan07> KE1HA, did you ever run 2 vid cards with a live cd and work?
[08:07] <KE1HA> yes should be.
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: no idea at all dude, sorry
[08:07] <kurtis> Is there a way to boot a new OS from an Exsternal HD?
[08:07] <KE1HA> spartan07, Live-CD, no, it only used the one, only after install did I use both cards.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: can you clarify "boot a new os" please
[08:08] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, i just copy it because that was the instruction, i dont know what that command would do but that instruction
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: you can add the external partition to you existing grub and boot it, if that's what you mean
[08:09] <KE1HA> mae_tae, that's the / touch for ?
[08:09] <kurtis> How do I do that? and Can I boot/install it onto my second partition I made for it?
[08:09] <KE1HA> oops what is the / touch for, you putting the contensts of the tat into the need-dep file ?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: then ask the instructor for clarification, or find alternative instruction
[08:09] <mae_tae> yes it uses touch
[08:09] <nuwan> ActionParsnip: i tried the main server/UK main server but all failed same error
[08:10] <mae_tae> KEIHA, so how will i fix it?
[08:10] <KE1HA> I'd do the Touch first, then extract the file to the file you created.
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> kurtis: you can boot any partition accessible to the kernel and able to boot
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> nuwan: without the output I'm stuck. Maybe someone on a faster connection can advise.
[08:10] <mae_tae> KE1HA, thats what i wonder for, because thats the instruction to upload ipcop-kernel
[08:11] <nuwan> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebindings/python-kde4_4.4.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:11] <nuwan>   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:11] <mae_tae> that command was specified there
[08:11] <KE1HA> Its either not finding the Source File, you may try ./ ipcop-1.4.21-kernel-2.4.36.tar_.bz2 then then make the destination file and try it
[08:11] <nuwan> This is all i get
[08:12] <mae_tae> KE1HA, here's the link http://www.ipcops.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=12076
[08:12] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: How do I browse files from the Live-CD? It's not giving me the option - or at least, I don't see it.
[08:12] <KE1HA> The live-CD should ahve mounted the Internal hard Drive.,
[08:13] <mae_tae> KEIHA, ok ill try it, do i need pipe for that?
[08:13] <mae_tae> i see
[08:13] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: I'm at the Live-CD menu. It says things like "Try Ubuntu without installing" etc
[08:13] <KE1HA> mae_tae, Those are teo diffrent commands, the first is extracting the archinve, then created the Touch file, you can't combine them.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> therealpsychx: you will need to mount yor internal partition using the places menu. You will need to run: gksudo nautilus ,to get write access
[08:13] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, yes, try witout installing.
[08:14] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, can you help him wiht that part pse ?
[08:14] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: When I go to "Try Ubuntu without installing" it just loads then goes to a black screen.
[08:14] <cipherz> anyone have problems after upgrading to <IP_ADDRESS>.25 in ubuntu 10.04 lts (amd64 arch)
[08:14] <SwedeMike> !details | cipherz
[08:14] <cipherz> when i boot i select ubuntu from my win7 boot menu and nothing else happens after that
[08:14] <KE1HA> Thata a problem, if you can Live-CD, your not gonna install.
[08:15] <KE1HA> oops if you can't.
[08:15] <cipherz> SwedeMike, sorry was hoping it was a general upgrade problem should have stated details prior to asking if i was the only one
[08:15] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Any ideas on what to do? It's not mine, it's a friend
[08:15] <KE1HA> Only thing I can suggest is try the full desktop version if the Laptop-Remix isn't booting.
[08:15] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: He was having this problem, I've tried a lot so far. DUnno
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: I just gave all s/he'll need to mount and write to the internal partitions if that's what is needed
[08:16] <SwedeMike> cipherz: well I upgraded to the nwe kernel the other day and it worked for me, so it's not a general problem.
[08:16] <KE1HA> rrr. but if he can't boot the Live-CD, he's stuck.
[08:16] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: He says that this is the Desktop version..
[08:16] <o2oo> hi
[08:16] <cipherz> SwedeMike, can always hope, but its highly unlikely :) just weird.. been using the old one for weeks, didnt touch anything else.. and finally decided to give it a go and restart it
[08:16] <chris_osx> therealpsychx: can you boot suse?
[08:17] <KE1HA> mae_tae, did you get my last post, the instruction said to Extract first, then Touch the other file, you can't do both on ome command line.
[08:17] <o2oo> I wonder if VirtualBox has the Mac OS version?
[08:17] <cipherz> but usually grub should display itself right ? (which is for me the odd part)
[08:17] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, rrr .. ok, then try the Laptop Version.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: mine doesn't but my timeout is small
[08:18] <therealpsychx> chris_osx: openSUSE?
[08:18] <chris_osx> therealpsychx: yes
[08:18] <therealpsychx> chris_osx: I haven't tried yet. I will try that now.
[08:18] <cipherz> is there a way to remove the fancy start up tihng, so I can see what is going on ? :)
[08:18] <cipherz> the splash screen i think its called
[08:19] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, I must admit though, i've not seen a time where the Desktop version Would Not Boot, and the Laptop WOuld it's usually the other way around, but as ActioParsnip said, theres a bug on this issue.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: press esc when plymouth shows
[08:19] <SwedeMike> cipherz: yes, edit the boot statement and remove quiet and splash
[08:19] <cipherz> thanks
[08:19] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, plymouth ?
[08:19] <cipherz> all I get is a cursor waiting and nothing else :(
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: the lucid boot splash is plymouth
[08:19] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[08:20] <cipherz> so guessing, reinstall grub (just to be on the safe side) and remove quiet/splash and increase time should at least help me get a clue whats going on
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: or you can edit /etc/default/grub and remove the boot options there
[08:20] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I haven't seen this either. I'm going to try both SUSE and the laptop variant of Ubuntu.
[08:20] <cipherz> excellent :)
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: you must run: sudo update-grub ,to apply the change
[08:20] <KE1HA> Try the Ubuntu Laptop Version First.
[08:20] <rgnr> hey guys
[08:21] <rgnr> what the hell
[08:21] <cipherz> weird the timeout is like 10, so i should have least seen it hmm
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> cipherz: you'll need to delete quiet splash from the quotes
[08:21] <rgnr> ubuntu cannot handle files larger than 3gb?
[08:21] <SwedeMike> rgnr: not correct.
[08:21] <cipherz> ActionParsnip, did that already :) just looking at the other options.. and guessing the timeout 10 is in seconds
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: it can hadle xb files
[08:21] <KE1HA> I have an Old ASUS A6V, and it went in really slick, even WPA worked out of the box, was well impressed with the Laptop Verion of 10.04 over 9.10
[08:21] <SwedeMike> rgnr: it can handle much larger, it depends on the filesystem and other factors.
[08:21] <rgnr> fs3
[08:22] <cipherz> hmm interesting
[08:22] <rgnr> it copies 3 gb and then gives an error with file to large
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: look at the wikipedia page for ext4
[08:22] <SwedeMike> rgnr: without providing more details there is no way to hepl you further. what FS are you running?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: are there any bugs logged for it?
[08:22] <rgnr> oh its ext4
[08:23] <pico_> is there a solution for : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/511001
[08:23] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Did you ever try the desktop version on that?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: if you are copying to fat32 you will get that
[08:23] <SwedeMike> rgnr: ext4 should definitely be able to handle that.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: but we have too little info to provide help
[08:24] <cipherz> i somehow doubt this can be good: Cannot find list of partitions! (update-grub)
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: try a different file manager too like thunar or pcmanfm. Maybe its a bug with nautilus
[08:24] <cipherz> I have mounted /dev and /proc .. tried running it with strace but cant seem to find anything of interest from the syscalls
[08:24] <rgnr> well i copy it to f32
[08:24] <rgnr> ad ntfs
[08:25] <trollboy> so where does evolution store its mailboxes?
[08:25] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, on my Laptop, no, only put Dekstop version on Desktops.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: ntfs will be fine, fat32 has a fairly small maximum filesize so if you copy 3gb files to fat32 you will get that error
[08:25] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Is it the "netbook" version?
[08:26] <KE1HA> I have the Notebook version running on all my notebooks, server & desktops running on desktops.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: there's a suggestion on brainstorm to make the os look at the copy tasks to fat32 and then show a message saying "that won't work dave"
[08:27] <krish> ActionParsnip: thanks
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> KE1HA: netbook desktop on a server, bit weird
[08:27] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: I mean, I see you saying notebook - but on their website, it says netbook. And I thought there was a difference between notebooks and netbooks. I'm just a little confused.
[08:28] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip, no, my server / workstations have Server or Workstation only.
[08:28] <SwedeMike> rgnr: just out of curiosity, why didn't you tell us you were copying to an fat32 filesystem initially?
[08:28] <unresolved> hi im having trouble install Demume i have a guide from wikipedia but when i type Sudo Make it says no target specified and no makefile found . stop .
[08:28] <sgr> ?
[08:29] <unresolved> whats does that mean ?
[08:29] <KE1HA> Oh... SRI, I missunderstood as well :-) .. No NET-Books, only NoteBooks or "Laptops: here.
[08:29] <o2oo> Hi, I wonder if VirtualBox has the Mac OS version?
[08:30] <Melodist> wat
[08:30] <Melodist> 0200 i do not understand the question
[08:30] <KE1HA> o2oo, yes the have Virtualbox for Mac OS, but that's a bit off-topic for us here.
[08:31] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: So, if I want the laptop version - where can I find it? on Ubuntu.com I only see the Desktop and Netbook versions.
[08:31] <bazhang> o2oo, try ##apple
[08:33] <unresolved> ????/
[08:33] <unresolved> can anyone help with that ?
[08:33] <unresolved> hi im having trouble install Demume i have a guide from wikipedia but when i type Sudo Make it says no target specified and no makefile found . stop ......
[08:33] <unresolved> Desmume*
[08:33] <rgnr> SwedeMike: I wanted you to guess )
[08:34] <bazhang> unresolved, just install from repos
[08:34] <unresolved> repos ?
[08:34] <bazhang> unresolved, sudo apt-get install desmume
[08:35] <bazhang> !repos > unresolved
[08:35] <bazhang> unresolved, no need to compile, just install from software repositories (repos)
[08:35] <therealpsychx> unresolved: Alternatively, you could go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager - Then search for Desmume
[08:35] <bazhang> !info desmume | unresolved
[08:36] <unresolved> thatas the old Version
[08:36] <unresolved> that dosnt support wifi
[08:36] <unresolved> the gide i got was http://wiki.desmume.org/index.php?title=Installing_DeSmuME_from_source_on_Linux
[08:36] <unresolved> this is the guide i had
[08:36] <unresolved> but they didnt work
[08:36] <unresolved> lol
[08:36] <unresolved> :(
[08:36] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, sri, I got my "laptop" version from a PPA, designed fer Laptops, so I can't say it's Formally supported from Canonical.
[08:36] <FloodBot4> unresolved: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <unresolved> i got stuck on Make
[08:37] <pradeep> hi good morning everyone
[08:37] <Dweezahr> good morning
[08:38] <rgnr> good mourning*
[08:38] <rgnr> :D
[08:39] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Can you tell me where to get the same one or a similar build to the one you have?
[08:40] <KE1HA> I was just looking for it, but I can't find the PPA at the moment, but irritating actually.
[08:40] <KE1HA> oops a bit irritating.
[08:41] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, I think the problem you have is with the Bug though. You need to submit a bug report on it.
[08:41] <therealpsychx> KE1HA: Yeah, I'm searching as well. And what was the bug, again? Just about the screen going black?
[08:42] <cipherz> think I have found why my grub setup is erhmm interesting
[08:42] <cipherz> warn: Embedding is not possible. ....
[08:42] <rav014> what are the best feature of ubuntu-10.04? because i want to upgrade im using 9.10
[08:42] <KE1HA> therealpsychx, yes, all the detailes abt your setup, and the problems encountered. : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[08:43] <rav014> what are the best feature of ubuntu-10.04? because i want to upgrade im using 9.10
[08:43] <KE1HA> That;s a show stopper, so it should get allot of attention.
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,  well that is a bit difficult to aswer
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,   it boots faster
[08:43] <rav014> ok
[08:43] <coz_> rav014,  there are obious advantages of newer kernerls  etc
[08:44] <coz_> rav014,  and it is LTS
[08:44] <bazhang> !notes > rav014
[08:44] <coz_> rav014,   and I think it being LTS  is probably its' beggest advantage
[08:44] <rav014> ok thanks coz
[08:45] <coz_> rav014,  on the other hand... I never reccomend an upgrade from one version to the next.. I always reccomend  backing up what you need to and do a clean install
[08:45] <KE1HA> rav014, google Ubuntu 10.04 Reviews, all the major sited reviewd it, there's allot of improvements in 10.04.
[08:45] <mick02> coz_, How do you feel about keeping the home directory on another partition and then upgrading the OD that way i.e. never having to touch the home folder
[08:46] <rav014> thanks a lot guys because right now im downloading ubuntu-10.04-netbook
[08:46] <coz_> mick02,  in all honesty  I never do that  so I dont have much expeirence with it... I follow my own advice :)
[08:46] <coz_> rav014,  cool....
[08:46] <coz_> rav014,   why netbook?
[08:47] <OneMillionDollar> can starcraft 2 play on ubuntu
[08:47] <mick02> coz_, fair enough, I've been thinking about moving my home folder to it's own partition but I'm being quite lazy about doing it!
[08:47] <coz_> OneMillionDollar,  I cant answer that  here ... I am not much of a gamer
[08:47] <KE1HA> rav014, Im using Sever-64, Desktop-32 & 64 and have a PPA for my Laptop. After a few tweaks, there all running faily well for this stage in the distro, and like was said, it's a LTS release.
[08:47] <OneMillionDollar> i'm not a gamer too heheheehehe
[08:47] <coz_> mick02,  yeah on this point you may have to get the advice of someone else  and maybe good advice about that on ##linux channel :)
[08:47] <rav014> i like netbook because im always travelling
[08:48] <rav014> it's handy
[08:48] <rav014> small
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> for 10 years i got pc only 2 games i play
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> netbook better than the stupid ipad
[08:48] <coz_> rav014,   you may want to look into kubuntu's  netbook edition.. I found it nicer to work with... faster than the gnome one... and prettier as well :)
[08:48] <OneMillionDollar> steve jobs said ipad going to replace netbook an calling it rubbish
[08:48] <rav014> ok!
[08:48] <ciphersson> i have read every were that Star Trek onlline works under wine but i tried every thing to no avail
[08:49] <rav014> ipad -> proprietary!
[08:49] <coz_> rav014, actually ... I believe the  'minimal install"  cd  allows for either gnome netbook or kde netbook as well as ubuntu   edubuntu and kubuntu