[08:05] <pbutter> there isnt an actual folder i want to mount, just the whole drive so i can scan through it
[08:05] <pepsi> with 2 known octects scanning for known open ports wouldnt be _too_ bad
[08:05] <twysted> thechris> just tell em youll go over there and fix it sometime ;P
[08:05] <thechris> twysted: so far thats what i've done
[08:05] <thechris> i'm trying to get them to switch from winME
[08:05] <erick> so you should mount the two wit different mount point
[08:05] <nalioth> pupil: did you ask uncle google?
[08:06] <firestorm> Hi. How can I upgrade a single package from the version in hoary to Debian's testing package?
[08:06] <pbutter> hmm,  i just did sudo mkdir /mnt/windows, and then did a mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/windows
[08:06] <pbutter> and then a ls of /mnt/windows
[08:06] <pbutter> and its all there
[08:06] <pupil> nalioth, I'm chatting with him now
[08:06] <pepsi> firestorm, add the debian repos to sources.list and hope the dependencies arent too far off? :)
[08:07] <pbutter> so i think it worked, but when i try to get into it through nautilus it says permission is denied
[08:07] <pbutter> is there a root nautilus?
[08:07] <twysted> pbutter it mounted it as root
[08:08] <arkais> i want install only breezy, i order 100 cd's but i dont beleave they can come before the install fest, the install fest is on october 27
[08:08] <erick> just go to the mount point and ls and you will see the files
[08:08] <pbutter> yeah, but now i want to play them
[08:08] <twysted> arkais if you look on the shipit site there is a email address to request u get them shipped faster
[08:08] <firestorm> pepsi: okay, want to install postgresql from debian's testing because it is up to date, whereas hoary is nearly 2 years old....will this be dangerous? and what would hte debian testing repository be called?
[08:08] <nalioth> arkais: email the link on the shipit page and explain yourself. they may send it special
[08:09] <pepsi> firestorm, maybe other packages will break with the newer version?
[08:09] <pbutter> but if i go to totem, and open up /mnt/windows none of the files are there
[08:09] <erick> use the totem movie player and browse the file you want to play
[08:09] <aftertaf> gooooood morning :)
[08:09] <twysted> pbutter as i said its mounted as root
[08:09] <pepsi> firestorm, you could always try it though, if the dependencies dont get mucked up too much, you can remove it and install the old one again if it breaks stuff
[08:10] <twysted> you have to read the ubuntu wiki on ntfs to have your user be able to view the files on that drive
[08:10] <pbutter> how do i undo that, so i can access it with whatever
[08:10] <Madpilot> !+ntfs
[08:10] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:10] <twysted> :D ubotu is back <3
[08:11] <firestorm> pepsi: thanks for your advice :)
[08:12] <DShepherd> twysted: /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[08:12] <DShepherd> try that
[08:12] <pupil> can QEMU allow me to open the file and see the contents of the file? I wonder if I can use a boot disk
[08:12] <DShepherd> twysted: just change the relevant stuff
[08:13] <twysted> dshepherd its not me having the ntfs issue ;)
[08:13] <arkais> thx for your recomendations
[08:13] <erick> GUYS brb
[08:14] <DShepherd> twysted: ok....sorry
[08:14] <Licker> can someone help me? I set up my web server and need to put .php files in ther /var/www/ DIR but when saving it says: Cannot save to DIR.
[08:14] <Madpilot> pbutter: if it's owned by root, you have to use 'chown' to change ownership - "man chown" for information
[08:14] <DShepherd> pbutter:  /dev/hda5 /mnt/winhda5 ntfs auto,users,exec,ro,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[08:14] <pepsi> firestorm, i just checked the unstable repositories.. there are several postgresql packages that look like would install nicely
[08:14] <DShepherd> pbutter: put that in your fstab and try again
[08:15] <dieguito> DShepherd: utf8 in that line should be a good idea
[08:15] <DShepherd> pbutter: make the relevant changes
[08:16] <sexcopter8000m> morning guys. i know we've had this conversation about anti-virus and firewalls not being really necessary in linux, but i was wondering, how do other operating systems other than windows and linux fare when it comes to these things?
[08:16] <twysted> Licker> its becuase its owned by the root user
[08:17] <Licker> So how do i Change access to make it owned by another?
[08:17] <erick> try chown
[08:17] <_TomB> man chown
[08:17] <Madpilot> Licker: with 'chown' - man chown for more info
[08:17] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, id say its simply a matter of market-share... macos didnt have many viruses at all, save the classic WDEF viruses of old
[08:17] <Licker> yea they dont really give a good EXP though
[08:18] <arkais> on the shipit page, says " sent to shipping company", i think i'm just have to waith now
[08:18] <firestorm> What should this be replaced with?: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[08:18] <arkais> :S, it can be a problem?
[08:18] <A-star> hi everyone
[08:18] <DShepherd> pbutter: uid and guid does the trick. man mount for more info
[08:18] <Madpilot> Licker: man chown should have a basic example...
[08:18] <twysted> firestorm> the mirrormax mirror seems to be donw
[08:18] <arkais> firestorm, are you on hoary?
[08:19] <firestorm> arkais: yes
[08:19] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, so is that to say, there would be more viruses written for macos if more people had it?
[08:19] <firestorm> twysted: any others you recommend I replace it with?
[08:19] <sexcopter8000m> or is macos "immune" like linux is regarded to be
[08:19] <dhonn> can FreeNX be a replacement to X as a client?
[08:19] <arkais> i have the same trouble
[08:19] <twysted> firestorm, i dont i dont use backports ;)
[08:19] <pepsi> firestorm, the breezy repos have as many postgresql pakcages as debian unstable did
[08:19] <firestorm> twysted: ok thanks :)
[08:19] <pepsi> breezy is pretty reliable at this point, id say
[08:19] <Madpilot> !tell firestorm about backports
[08:20] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, thats my opinion
[08:20] <ratonn2> Anyone know why Totem would show wrong lengths for each of my mp3s?
[08:21] <ratonn2> Is ffmpeg not the gstreamer codec required?
[08:21] <firestorm> Madpilot: thanks :)
[08:21] <firestorm> pepsi: thanks I will upgrade :)
[08:21] <thianpa> Does ubuntu supports Psybnc , Ircd ,etc ?
[08:21] <pepsi> firestorm, yeah the last time i had trouble was a few months ago, when xorg was still being retarded
[08:21] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, ok cool, makes linux sound all the more appealing :)
[08:22] <dieguito> i'm getting "the following packages couldn't be authenticated...." error, i have ubuntu-keyring iinstalled, any idea how to solve it?
[08:22] <cafuego_> thianpa: see 'apt-cache search' and the manpage for 'apt-cache'.
[08:22] <arkais> openoffice on breezy it's take an upgrade or another package?
[08:22] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, also, if an exploit is found, there are a bunch of people all over the world ready to fix it, instead of a single company who has to decide if its worth it to fix it
[08:23] <cafuego_> arkais: breezy uses openoffice2 by default
[08:23] <aftertaf> dieguito:  a gpg signature pb?
[08:23] <dieguito> aftertaf: i guess
[08:24] <dieguito> aftertaf: but how do i fix it
[08:24] <arkais> cafuego, yea but when i upgrade to breezy doesn't work like i expect, and i have openoffice 1.1.4
[08:24] <DShepherd> is there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:24] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: right, but who are these people? are they proper employees who are paid to do this kind of work, or just keen hobbyists?
[08:24] <cafuego_> arkais: Yes, if you want to use ooo2, you need to tell it to.
[08:25] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, both
[08:25] <aftertaf> dieguito:  i just ignore on mine.... may not be good advice but it works still....
[08:25] <ormandj> sexcopter8000m, you should read some stuff @ linux.com about linux itself, it might clear up some things :)
[08:25] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: ok, and the thing i just don't get is, if people are professionally employed in the development and maitenance of linux as a whole, where does the money come from, if linux is free?
[08:26] <sexcopter8000m> heh, ormandj, sounds like a plan
[08:26] <ormandj> sexcopter8000m, i employ about 10 programmers to work on linux for my needs
[08:26] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, from companies that want to utilize software already out there and jsut want to expand on it... support linux servers, etc
[08:26] <ormandj> the money comes from my business, i just need improvements in various things, so i employ people to do it
[08:26] <DShepherd> is there an opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:26] <TokenBad> ok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?
[08:26] <thechris> DShepherd: you mean linke "mount"
[08:26] <bur[n] er> DShepherd: wtf is daemon tools?
[08:26] <ormandj> rofl
[08:27] <ormandj> he wants to mount iso image files
[08:27] <bur[n] er> aww
[08:27] <bur[n] er> hehe
[08:27] <ratonn2> Anyone know what repository I need for gstreamer0.8-mad?
[08:27] <ormandj> as virtual cd-roms
[08:27] <bur[n] er> !tell ratonn2 about restricted
[08:27] <DShepherd> is there an GUI opensource alternative to daemon tools that runs on linux?
[08:27] <ratonn2> I've added binary universe and multiverse
[08:27] <ormandj> ratonn: packages.ubuntu.com i think?
[08:27] <ormandj> or .org
[08:27] <thechris> DShepherd: mount -o loop -t isofs filename mountpoint
[08:27] <bur[n] er> ratonn2: that's it
[08:27] <thechris> i thnk
[08:27] <pepsi> ratonn2, universe
[08:28] <sexcopter8000m> ok, changing the subject from that, i'm dead keen for when breezy comes out, and plan to just wipe and install afresh, is there a page out there with common things one might want to backup?
[08:28] <sexcopter8000m> (i'm not lazy, honest)
[08:28] <ratonn2> i gives me dependancy errors thugh
[08:28] <bur[n] er> sexcopter8000m: just back up ~/ and /etc
[08:28] <ratonn2> Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[08:28] <ormandj> any LDAP gurus wanna waste some time talking with me? i'll sacrafice a virgin for you or something
[08:28] <DShepherd> sexcopter8000m: your home directory is a good start
[08:28] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, you dont need to wipe it clean, and breezy is damn stable right now in my experience
[08:28] <zenrox> ok wots wrong with xmms
[08:28] <zenrox> it wont start
[08:28] <bur[n] er> pepsi: how do you find breezy's X to be with regards to GL stuff?
[08:29] <zenrox> it starts then just dies off
[08:29] <ratonn2> Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[08:29] <R0bNyc> hello, i have ubuntu installed on my other partition i just chrooted into ubuntu and there are some errors after i tried to update/upgrade/dist-upgrade , so after i chrooted i also tried to reinstall grub but couldnt, so im guessin theres something wrong out of no where , im gonna install the latest ubuntu but i dont want to lose none of my information or all the gnome themes/icons i already have setup there took me a few hours what can
[08:29] <R0bNyc>  i do
[08:29] <pepsi> bur[n] er, no clue.. i never do 3d, but i can run glxgears at least
[08:29] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you need that -iackknowledgeblahblah thing
[08:29] <pepsi> bur[n] er, have you tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg?
[08:29] <ormandj> look up the flag in the manpage
[08:29] <bur[n] er> ormandj: ?
[08:29] <sexcopter8000m> ok, but the main reason i want breezy is 'cos sound is a bit screwed in hoary for me, and if i do a dist-upgrade, will it look at my hardware anew properly, or just "preserve" the previous config?
[08:30] <ormandj> bur[n] er, ok, i'll look it up for you, one moment
[08:30] <bur[n] er> man glxgears doesn't work... nor does glxgears --help ;)
[08:30] <bur[n] er> or i would
[08:30] <ormandj> google is your friend. brb
[08:30] <pupil> how do i unzip a .zip file?
[08:30] <sexcopter8000m> and i will back up ~/, though i keep most of "my docs" on a fat32 partition
[08:30] <bur[n] er> in any event... it's not really glxgears I'm worried about... ever since I upgraded to breezy, I can't play warcraft 3 through cedega ;)
[08:30] <bur[n] er> it's unplayably slow
[08:30] <bur[n] er> heck, I can't even move the mouse
[08:31] <dhonn> rightclick the zip file and click extract, pupil
[08:31] <ormandj> bur[n] er, http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/100-glxgears-in-breezy-shows-no-fps.html
[08:31] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, im not sure how random config files and such get cleaned upm, but yuou could always remove everything but the bare essentials and then install ubuntu-desktop to get everything again, heh
[08:31] <bur[n] er> ormandj: thank you mucho
[08:31] <ormandj> bur[n] er, np, i had the same issue. about a week ago :) google is really your friend :P
[08:32] <pupil> how do I write a .img file to the floppy drive,. ?
[08:32] <TokenBad> ok...ubuntu comes with electricsheep..but its older version...I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall electricsheep to install never version and I also tried apt-get upgrade to install newer version..but neither would work..anyone know a way to get the newer version of electricsheep installed?
[08:32] <ormandj> pupil, dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice
[08:32] <ormandj> might need a bs= in there
[08:32] <pupil> thanks
[08:32] <twysted> TokenBad> if the older version is on the repository thats all your going to get
[08:32] <pupil> bs stands for ?
[08:32] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: ok, but since as i say i have most of my stuff on another partition, i think a reformat is the way forward :)
[08:32] <bjv> pupil: yeah, do 1024 bs
[08:33] <bur[n] er> ormandj: totally works :)  thanks... 300 fps isn't so great, but it's better than what I figured it was... looks like cedega is my next part of troubleshooting
[08:33] <bjv> iirc
[08:33] <twysted> TokenBad> you might want to try sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade to see if it updates
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, yeah.. ive done it both ways myself
[08:33] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi, just thinking of firefox favourites, thunderbird emails etc
[08:33] <TokenBad> twysted, it tries to install the newer version
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, thats all in your home dir
[08:33] <TokenBad> but it gets an error
[08:33] <bjv> pupil: blocks of bits or something.
[08:33] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you need to fix that first. 300fps won't be playable in any 3d game
[08:33] <sexcopter8000m> oh right
[08:33] <ormandj> bur[n] er, you sure you have DRI working?
[08:33] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, ~/.mozilla
[08:33] <twysted> and that error is?!
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> of course... that was quite dumb of me
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> should i backup my apt sources or are the mirrors rather different for breezy?
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> by mirrors i mean repos
[08:34] <bur[n] er> ormandj: what's that command again?  I thought it was xdriinfo
[08:34] <pupil> dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrivedevice
[08:34] <pepsi> im sorry? backup sources.list?
[08:34] <dhonn> i just reinstall ubuntu without formating my /home partition
[08:34] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: yeah
[08:35] <R0bNyc> can anyone check out my problem http://pastebin.com/388806
[08:35] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, there are different repos since its a different release
[08:35] <pepsi> you just replae "hoary" with "breezy" to upgrade
[08:35] <ratonn2> is ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main listed in the wiki for codecs trustworthy?
[08:36] <mushtaq> gjhg'
[08:36] <pepsi> sexcopter8000m, so ... i dont see a point in backing up sources.list
[08:36] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: and for backports?
[08:36] <pepsi> no clue
[08:36] <pepsi> never used that
[08:36] <sexcopter8000m> pepsi: heh, ok
[08:37] <sexcopter8000m> well, i have to get going for uni now, thanks for your help pepsi =)
[08:37] <sexcopter8000m> ciao for now
[08:37] <pepsi> have fun
[08:37] <mushtaq> i want to install ubuntu on 32mb pentium processor ? IBM box is it possible
[08:37] <ormandj> bur[n] er, type: glxinfo |head -n5
[08:37] <ormandj> paste output to me in pmsg
[08:37] <bur[n] er> direct rendering: Yes
[08:37] <bur[n] er> er... sorry ;)
[08:37] <mushtaq> any one from indonesia ?
[08:38] <setite> how do i remove ubuntu
[08:38] <ormandj> paste the whole set of output in pmsg
[08:38] <bur[n] er> ok
[08:38] <ormandj> setite, install something else
[08:38] <setite> i want to remove the linux partition safely
[08:38] <setite> but i need to find a way to repair my mbr
[08:38] <ormandj> oh, you installed alongside windows?
[08:38] <ormandj> ew :P
[08:38] <setite> yea its dual
[08:38] <bjv> mushtaq: how do you plan on installing?
[08:38] <bjv> from CD?
[08:38] <logikal> I run a dual too
[08:39] <logikal> Haven't booted into windows since I install ubuntu :)
[08:39] <setite> well i need to remove ubuntu
[08:39] <logikal> lol
[08:39] <logikal> why
[08:39] <setite> i wanna test vista build 5231
[08:39] <logikal> setite
[08:39] <thechris> setite: do you have WinNT (2k/xp) or 9x?
[08:39] <bjv> lol @ removing an operating system. :P
[08:39] <logikal> you can edit the MBR in windows
[08:39] <setite> xp
[08:39] <logikal> you have windows XP?
[08:40] <setite> how do i restore the mbr from windows
[08:40] <logikal> run msconfig
[08:40] <logikal> run msconfig, go to boot
[08:40] <thechris> setite: you can use the fixmbr command in the windows recovery console
[08:40] <logikal> requires some basic knowledge of editing
[08:40] <logikal> One you remove grub, you should be alright.
[08:40] <logikal> IT should repair the MBR.
[08:40] <setite> i cant get into the windows recovery console
[08:40] <setite> my windows xp instlal doenst have that
[08:40] <logikal> can you get into windows?
[08:40] <setite> im in it now
[08:40] <DShepherd> setite: pip in the winxp and go to Repair 'R' and type FixMBR after you remove ubuntu
[08:40] <thechris> setite: then run the command
[08:41] <logikal> start -> run -> msconfig
[08:41] <DShepherd> pop*
[08:41] <_rb_> hey in the printer list when running an add printer wizard, there are no printers. how do i populate it ?
[08:41] <setite> im in the msconfig
[08:41] <ratonn2> mmmm
[08:41] <logikal> go to the "boot" tab
[08:41] <ratonn2> breezy US backports if 404ing
[08:41] <ratonn2> :|
[08:41] <setite> im in it
[08:41] <logikal> what do you see?
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> erl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> Setting up login (4.0.3-37ubuntu6) ...
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> /var/lib/dpkg/info/login.postinst: line 15: /dev/null: Permission denied
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> dpkg: error processing login (--configure):
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:41] <logikal> a whole bunch of shiet you dont understand?
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite>  login
[08:41] <NapoleonDynamite> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:41] <logikal> PASTEBIN!!11111
[08:42] <setite> well i half unserstand
[08:42] <setite> i see bootloader
[08:42] <setite> timeout-30
[08:42] <_rb_> try it with sudo
[08:42] <logikal> correct
[08:42] <logikal> well listen
[08:42] <logikal> removing linux the right way will restore the MBR
[08:42] <setite> default=multi(0)disk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[08:42] <logikal> right
[08:42] <setite> ok
[08:42] <logikal> correct
[08:42] <logikal> that's fine
[08:42] <logikal> then just remove linux
[08:43] <setite> last time i just deleted the partition i buggered everything
[08:43] <setite> but that might have been because i was using lilo
[08:43] <logikal> dont just delete it
[08:43] <setite> stupid slackware
[08:43] <logikal> remove it
[08:43] <setite> ok how do i remove then
[08:43] <logikal> ubotu tell setite about uninstalling
[08:43] <julius> any filipino here?
[08:43] <logikal> ubotu tell setite about removing ubuntu
[08:43] <logikal> sdfklasjflsjf!
[08:43] <logikal> !uninstalling
[08:44] <setite> !removing ubuntu
[08:44] <julius> format!
[08:44] <setite> !uninstall
[08:44] <zxsykco> !bong
[08:45] <airtonix> hey guys i finally got a laptop without a cdrom to work via a network install
[08:45] <ratonn2> mmm
[08:45] <aftertaf> well done :)
[08:45] <airtonix> but all i got is a cli
[08:45] <ratonn2> backports if not working
[08:45] <ratonn2> 404ing
[08:45] <ratonn2> :\
[08:46] <mushtaq> airtonix how you will install ?
[08:46] <airtonix> and it didn;t event ask me for a root password on setup, wtf going on
[08:46] <mushtaq> via the network ?
[08:46] <aftertaf> airtonix:  install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt
[08:46] <airtonix> yah
[08:46] <airtonix> netboot
[08:46] <setite> is ubotu dead
[08:46] <aftertaf> airtonix:  normal
[08:46] <aftertaf> !root
[08:46] <Tomcat_> !tell airtonix about rootsudo
[08:46] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:46] <setite> ubotu
[08:46] <setite> !help
[08:46] <setite> there we go
[08:46] <setite> !removing ubuntu
[08:46] <thechris> oh, hey, i still have issues trying to get ubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <mushtaq> airtonix do you have the howto netboot ?
[08:46] <trekrem> anyone using fluxbox, i have a quick question, well, possibly quick
[08:47] <teamsters> how do i adjust brightness in mplayer ?
[08:47] <seethru> ratonn2: what are you using for backports in your sources.list?
[08:47] <thechris> it breaks the install everytime.  is it safe not to have ubuntu-desktop?
[08:47] <teamsters> using xv as output
[08:47] <airtonix> mushtaq: hang on
[08:47] <setite> logikal hey how do i do it... im getting nothing from ubotu
[08:47] <mushtaq> airtonix ok
[08:47] <logikal> well
[08:47] <logikal> ask someone else, becuase, honestly, I don't know LOL
[08:48] <logikal> sorry
[08:48] <logikal> you may way to ask in #kubuntu
[08:48] <airtonix> wtf root diabled, this is shit
[08:48] <N6REJ> evening all
[08:48] <mushtaq> what are you asking setite
[08:48] <twysted> if you want to remove ubunutu just install something over it and let it format
[08:48] <Tomcat_> thechris: Without ubuntu-desktop, you're not compatible to the regular ubuntu install... upgrading might break the system.
[08:48] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: is that also true of the server mode?
[08:49] <thechris> hmm.  well it always fails with python-reportlab
[08:49] <thechris> which is apparently not installable
[08:49] <Tomcat_> N6REJ: Nah... but people who did a server install probably know that anyway. :)
[08:49] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: I didn't think so but wanted to check :D
[08:49] <airtonix> mushtaq: ok, checking url history  now...
[08:50] <airtonix> btw totally off-topic, but anyone noticed print.google.com?
[08:50] <Tomcat_> thechris: Maybe your CD is broken... you might want to check the MD5SUMs.
[08:50] <N6REJ> Tomcat_: I've perplexed as to exactly how to configure my system.  the changes to apache2 along with being totally new to the ubuntu way have me spinning
[08:50] <DShepherd> setite: you can try booting from your windows xp cd, go to repair and type FIXMBR
[08:51] <setite> yea tried that... i cant get into cli with my xp cd... and i cant get teh recovery console either...
[08:51] <bur[n] er> setite: while you're at it... try "fixboot" too
[08:51] <aftertaf> airtonix:  the root thing is on purpose, to protect newcomers to linux from breaking things.......
[08:51] <setite> i have been trying the ultimate boot cd...
[08:51] <setite> because i dont have a floppy
[08:51] <setite> im on a laptop
[08:51] <aftertaf> airtonix:  sudo works a treat though
[08:51] <michan> my microphone input isn't working.  i'm using alsa drivers and it's not muted or anything.  i'm sure the mic works.  can anyone help?
[08:51] <nickoli> anybody know how to solve this configure: error: *** Don't know how to handle this Qt major version
[08:51] <bur[n] er> setite: can you install grub?
[08:51] <setite> i have it already
[08:51] <zenrox> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[08:51] <zenrox>   serial 7 error_code 10 request_code 33 minor_code 0
[08:51] <zenrox>  <---how do i fix that for xmms
[08:52] <setite> ultimate boot cd has grub also
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: then what's the problem? I don't see it in the backlog
[08:52] <DShepherd> fgd
[08:52] <mushtaq> setite what is ultimate boot cd ?
[08:52] <setite> i need to get rid of the linux partition
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: why?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> setite: use qtparted?
[08:52] <nickoli> has anybody here been able to install nvlcock 0.8b
[08:52] <setite> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[08:53] <airtonix> mushtaq, i think i got the url
[08:53] <mushtaq> airtonix good thanks
[08:53] <setite> well i have a partition application... i need to find a way to fix my mbr because last time i just deleted the partition it buggered my pc
[08:53] <mushtaq> airtonix please send
[08:53] <setite> well i had lilo at the time... under slackware...
[08:53] <zenrox> bur[n] er,  i have it installed but i like my xmms just casue it does dubble size
[08:53] <airtonix> mushtaqi had a winxp machine hosting tftpd32
[08:54] <airtonix> it put on offer a pxe image
[08:54] <bur[n] er> zenrox: mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-bak
[08:54] <airtonix> which i slurpped from the au.archive.ubunutu somehwere
[08:54] <zenrox> ok will try that
[08:54] <bur[n] er> never hurts to see if it's your config that f's it up
[08:54] <airtonix> bu i'll still get url
[08:54] <michan> i'm using alsa drivers but my microphone doesn't work for some reason.  can anyone help?
[08:54] <michan> i'm interviewing richard stallman tomorrow and i have to record it
[08:55] <zenrox> bur[n] er,  thats wot it was
[08:55] <DShepherd> setite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd
[08:55] <DShepherd> ?
[08:55] <airtonix> mushtaq, go it
[08:55] <bur[n] er> zenrox: :)
[08:55] <mushtaq> -------
[08:55] <airtonix> mushtaq, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot?highlight=%28netboot%29
[08:55] <erick> michan? wow thats great, I want to see in richard stallman in person
[08:55] <erick> michan can send me a copy of your interview
[08:55] <michan> erick: yeah, it's gonna be awesome.  i'm writing an article
[08:55] <michan> heh, alright
[08:56] <michan> but.. i need to get my mic working
[08:56] <XtR> Gah. I installled SSHD but I can't connect without keys it looks like, what changes do I have to make to sshd_config anybody?
[08:56] <DShepherd> setite: what's the prob with your windows xp cd
[08:56] <zenrox> michan,  post a copy on the forums
[08:56] <setite> DShepherd its retarded... it doenst have a recovery console
[08:56] <zenrox> casue i ant a copy too
[08:56] <erick> yes michan
[08:56] <michan> zenrox: alright
[08:56] <DShepherd> setite: Didnt know XP was that bad
[08:56] <setite> i have two xp's one is a recovery disk which just copies windows to the drive.. and the other is an unattended install...
[08:57] <setite> regular xp has it i think... i just dont have regular
[08:57] <airtonix> mushtaq, once you have that running from the pxe rom you can connect to a repository, but i think it only uses http
[08:57] <mushtaq> airtonix thanks takecare gtg bye
[08:57] <erick> is pbutter around
[08:57] <DShepherd> can you get your hands on any XP disk
[08:57] <airtonix> aftertaf, can you assist me with this root guff?
[08:57] <N6REJ> anyone really familiar with setting up a server behind a dsl router with NAT?
[08:58] <setite> nope
[08:58] <ratonn2> what repository has libmad0 for breezy?
[08:58] <aftertaf> airtonix:  you can use sudo for most things...... do you need to enable rot?
[08:58] <aftertaf> *oo
[08:58] <aftertaf> !info libmad0 breezy
[08:58] <aftertaf> !info libmad0
[08:58] <airtonix> well, maybe how to use the apt-get command to get the desktop in
[08:59] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get.......
[08:59] <ratonn2> afterta:f E: Package libmad0 has no installation candidate
[08:59] <airtonix> aftertaf, install ubuntu-desktop  metapackage with apt?
[08:59] <ratonn2> i have universe and multiverse main in sources.list
[08:59] <aftertaf> yep....
[09:00] <aftertaf> ratonn2:  if you put uni/multi on extras too?
[09:00] <aftertaf> an idea, i did it.... dont know if it works, never got any errors yet.
[09:00] <ratonn2> afterfaf: no, i didn't
[09:00] <airtonix> sorry to be a total pain, but is this the exact syntax? sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <thechris> apt-get install ...
[09:00] <aftertaf> :)
[09:01] <airtonix> what just "apt-get install"
[09:01] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install [package1]  [packageN]
[09:01] <N6REJ> no dsl routing genius's out there?
[09:01] <airtonix> cheers
[09:01] <airtonix> clarification is great
[09:01] <aftertaf> sudo to do it as 'root', put in your user password when prompted
[09:01] <thechris> airtonix: no, but there is no tab complete for what you just typed
[09:01] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  nope.... :) what gives?
[09:01] <airtonix> but i dont have a password for root
[09:01] <airtonix> ah bugger it seya
[09:02] <ratonn2> aftertaf: can you paste your extras line?
[09:02] <aftertaf> user password!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   some poeple get angry and dont rzad what is in front of them.
[09:02] <aftertaf> ratonn2:  :) ok.
[09:03] <ratonn2> !extras
[09:03] <ubotu> I heard extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:03] <N6REJ> aftertaf: I'm still new to breezy, only 5 days, and I'm still trying to get everything working 100%.  supposedly the apache is up, but I can see it because the stupid belkin wireless router drops the packets to <IP_ADDRESS>.  Anyway, I need to configure apache for mod_dav & Mod_ssl and have it recognize my domain name as well as the local nat'd ip.
[09:03] <N6REJ> I wish breezy had good documentation.
[09:04] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: it's not even out yet!  yeesh
[09:04] <thechris> i'm just hoping its stable...
[09:04] <Tomcat_> Ubuntu has better documentation than most other distros... :)
[09:05] <thechris> so far i've had many issues with ubuntu
[09:05] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: you care to help?
[09:05] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: care to ask a question? ;)
[09:05] <Tomcat_> But people expect it in the wrong locations... best documentation for Linux is on the web, in mailing lists, in forums, in books. :)
[09:05] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: i'd configure it all for you if you do a reverse vnc :)
[09:05] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: whats that LOL
[09:06] <N6REJ> <------ is a dinosaur
[09:06] <aftertaf> lol
[09:06] <bur[n] er> it's where I run a vncviewer in listen mode and you start a vnc server that connects to me so I can move your mouse around and do stuff :)
[09:06] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: oh, the server doesn't have desktop LOL
[09:06] <bur[n] er> or i could just tell you... set your PC up with a static ip... forward port 80 to that local ip
[09:06] <Tomcat_> Why do you need VNC for setting up a webserver? o_O
[09:07] <bur[n] er> Tomcat_: just an easy way to get in without dealing with firewalls, etc.
[09:07] <aftertaf> ssh?
[09:07] <Tomcat_> Mh... not sure if that's easier than SSH... :o
[09:07] <bur[n] er> ssh depends on the other side configuring port forwarding ;)
[09:07] <bur[n] er> reverse vnc depends on me configuring port forwarding :)
[09:07] <Tomcat_> You could do reverse ssh tunnelling...
[09:07] <bur[n] er> Tomcat_: i dont' know how to do that ;)
[09:07] <Tomcat_> Like... he (client) opens a conn to you, tunnels the SSH port, then you connect through the tunnel. :)
[09:08] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: done that.. can't see the web server locally.  So I need to make a decision.... do I get my gigafast router out that uses a different method of routing, put the server behind that and the wirless router as a access point beside it, or what.
[09:08] <N6REJ> too many decisions.....
[09:08] <N6REJ> I can ssh into the server.. that part I have working.
[09:08] <ratonn2> anyone know what deb-src is for in sources.list
[09:08] <ratonn2> ?
[09:08] <N6REJ> www.cogyfarm.com
[09:08] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: can't go to http://localhost from that machine?
[09:08] <ratonn2> !deb-src
[09:08] <thechris> ratonn2: my guess -- sourcecode packages
[09:09] <ratonn2> should the deb-src lines be uncommented in the sources.list file?
[09:09] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: probably if I had a desktop
[09:09] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: try with links?
[09:09] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: in any event, i think you just need to have a properly configured apache.conf
[09:10] <N6REJ> I think the real problem is this line.... Allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> ::1/128
[09:10] <N6REJ> I need that to be a 192 address but I don't understand the ::1/128 at the end
[09:10] <N6REJ> yes I agree bur[n] er
[09:10] <N6REJ> I don't understand apache2 at all
[09:10] <bur[n] er> if you port scan that machine on your local intranet... is port 80 open and listening?
[09:11] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: how would I do that in xp?
[09:11] <N6REJ> or from an ssh client?
[09:11] <thechris> N6REJ: that is for a ipv6 address
[09:11] <bur[n] er> uhh... in winxp, i use yaps  (yet another port scanner)
[09:11] <bur[n] er> more basic... can you open up a web browser on your local intranet and do http://192.168.x.x
[09:12] <bur[n] er> where .x.x is the webserver
[09:12] <N6REJ> wow, yeah, NOW I can!! I must be on the right track.
[09:12] <N6REJ> I get a directory listing though :(
[09:12] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: i see it too :)
[09:13] <bur[n] er> your port forwarding is working as well
[09:13] <N6REJ> I tried to set it up right LOL
[09:13] <bur[n] er> just make a fancy index.html now :)
[09:13] <brosio> exist divx6 codec for linux ?
[09:14] <N6REJ> almost.. I gotta point apache to look at cogyfarm for normal webpages... I want to leave the apache default for intranet related stuff like webalizer and logs.
[09:14] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: if you don't knwo where to put it... look for DocumentRoot in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[09:14] <N6REJ> thats where we're at now... /var/www
[09:14] <ratonn2> Does restricted in sources.list mean that copyrighted packages will be downloaded as well?
[09:14] <N6REJ> now I gotta setup the virtual host file and thats the part that is giving me fits.
[09:14] <N6REJ> hang, on, maybe a light bulb went on.
[09:15] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: sounds like you're almost there :)
[09:15] <N6REJ> *amazing what cappuccino does
[09:15] <bur[n] er> lol
[09:15] <Syruss> you girl
[09:15] <Syruss> have an espresso
[09:15] <N6REJ> I used to KNOW how to do all this stuff fairly easily.
[09:15] <teleyinex> hi
[09:15] <brosio> exist divx6 codec for linux ?
[09:15] <Syruss> brosio, divx6?
[09:15] <teleyinex> its now "secure" to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[09:15] <bur[n] er> brosio: w32codecs package
[09:15] <N6REJ> Syruss: cappucino/coffee mix!  Ultimate BPD fix
[09:15] <nsomniac> wonder they the ubuntu dev group decided on postfix for the default MTA
[09:16] <Syruss> gtg, work :/
[09:16] <nsomniac> instead of Exim or Qmail
[09:16] <N6REJ> cause sendmail is $%#$%#?
[09:16] <teleyinex> i mean if there isnt a real risk
[09:16] <nsomniac> Sendmail = YUCKY
[09:17] <cafuego_> nsomniac: Because postfix is nice and exim4 and sendmail are not.
[09:17] <nsomniac> how is it nice ?
[09:18] <nsomniac> not that I'm bashing it ... I honestly don't know it
[09:19] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: what do  I change this : Allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> ::1/128 to so only my intranet can read  the files in that directory?
[09:19] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: 192.168.2.x
[09:21] <N6REJ> wait, lets back up a step.... I want to have 2 sections in my site.... one will be for intranet stuff... records, logs, manuals, doc's etc.... the other will be for the general public viewable website.
[09:21] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: ok, let me try that.
[09:21] <lyle> t
[09:22] <Licker> I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:23] <poyie> about java
[09:24] <poyie> i already install my java update but its not functioning
[09:24] <lyle> question:  I just installed ndiswrapper and installed the appropriate wireless driver for my system.  I'm lost on what next.
[09:25] <vengeful> what wireless card have u got , lyle?
[09:26] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: vhosts is the right track
[09:26] <lyle> vengeful: BCM4306
[09:26] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: ok, thats what I was thinking.... so let me work on that.
[09:27] <N6REJ> lyle:  what about that chipset?  I know it.
[09:27] <lyle> Broadcom.
[09:27] <N6REJ> lyle: yep, works great
[09:27] <Prof_Frink> lyle: I got it working following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[09:28] <lyle> thanks, I'll check it out.
[09:28] <N6REJ> the f5d7001 will work also if you add the .sys file.
[09:28] <N6REJ> lyle what is teh brand of your nic?
[09:29] <N6REJ> hmm... well, if he/she comes back.
[09:29] <N6REJ> let me look this thing up... brb all
[09:29] <N6REJ> and ty.
[09:30] <N6REJ> * gone to copy default to another name*
[09:32] <erick> Guys just want to ask how can I block a particular subjetc on my mail server let say hello I want to block it
[09:32] <N6REJ> errrmmmm... back with a quick q? .... I want one to be staff.cogyfarm.com and all the rest to default to www.cogyfarm.com... what do I put for these two lines?
[09:32] <N6REJ> <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:32] <N6REJ> eeeeeh.. bad copy.. wait.
[09:33] <N6REJ> NameVirtualHost cogyfarm.com
[09:33] <ColonelKernel> what benefit is there to using an initrd?
[09:33] <N6REJ> <VirtualHost *>
[09:33] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: any service started by initrd only starts as called... if run in standalone it is running all the time.
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> N6REJ, crack cocaine?
[09:34] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: initrd = less continous resources, but slower startup when called.
[09:34] <signius> Good Morning Guys
[09:34] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: what???
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> initrd - initial ramdisk
[09:34] <ColonelKernel> I think youre thinking of xinted
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> or inted
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> inetd
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> ugh
[09:35] <N6REJ> ColonelKernel: I stand corrected.. I was thinking of inted LOL.. told you I'm a dinosaur LOL
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> I cant type for feces tonight
[09:35] <ColonelKernel> N6REJ, its cool - im a dinosaur too b/c I know what you were talking about
[09:35] <N6REJ> :D
[09:36] <Licker>  I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:36] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: correct me if I'm wrong, but if I have a vhost that is NameVirtualHost * and another that is staff then anything that ISN"T staff goes to * right?
[09:37] <N6REJ> Licker: I think thats mime type settings, but don't hold me to it.
[09:38] <Licker> :/
[09:38] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: that's my understanding :)
[09:38] <bur[n] er> N6REJ: might be a good idea to test that theory a bit ;)
[09:39] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: will do... trying to make sure I get everything right right now.
[09:39] <Licker> anyone else know whats wrong with my server
[09:39] <Licker> ??
[09:41] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I hate not being able to see my own website via fqdn!!!
[09:41] <siimo> hi can someone please help me get Esterel 5.21 on ubuntu? :-(  its available here but seems very old http://www-sop.inria.fr/meije/esterel/getting-esterel.html
[09:41] <lyle> looks like a restart is necessary after first installing my wireless driver.  Is that a correct assumption?
[09:42] <Licker>  I got my web server up and running.  But my images wont show can someone help me?
[09:42] <kate> where i can download mplayer for ubuntu?
[09:42] <aftertaf> kate:  with apt-get
[09:42] <aftertaf> !tell kate about universe
[09:42] <airtonix> aftertaf, i lost the info you gave me for getting the gui running
[09:42] <aftertaf> !tell kate about repos
[09:43] <aftertaf> airtonix:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <airtonix> aftertaf, yeah i tried that , it said that it cant find it or something
[09:43] <yawgmoth7> Ummmmm what is ICE Authority?
[09:43] <siimo> ?
[09:43] <airtonix> so itried sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:43] <N6REJ> can anyone tell me if this gives you "hello world" ?   www.cogyfarm.com
[09:44] <airtonix> N6REJ, yep hello world conformed
[09:44] <N6REJ> WAHOOOO!@!!!
[09:44] <airtonix> confirmed
[09:44] <yawgmoth7> Because i cant login to anyhting but a command prompt and all the errors were because of something about not being able to access ./ICEauthority
[09:44] <N6REJ> ty!
[09:44] <yawgmoth7> Im using bitchx right now :(
[09:44] <airtonix> not a problem comrade
[09:44] <N6REJ> now, step two... intranet.
[09:44] <airtonix> ook?
[09:45] <fek> moin
[09:45] <yawgmoth7> Anybody know what ICEauthority is?
[09:45] <airtonix> no jokes about banannas and ants powering a note taking machine
[09:45] <airtonix> any way
[09:45] <woldemar> !
[09:45] <woldemar> hello !
[09:45] <mzo> I understand that I need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 playback in various apps, but I cant find it in synaptic..  anyone have a quick fix?
[09:45] <woldemar> I need a help!
[09:46] <woldemar> Does anybody speak Russian ???
[09:46] <nxv_> how do i install css to play dvds with breezy?
[09:46] <aftertaf> try -ru
[09:46] <aftertaf> !ru
[09:47] <woldemar> there is no body there
[09:47] <aftertaf> mzo:  enabled universe?
[09:47] <mzo> aftertaf, is that a repository?
[09:47] <Madpilot> mzo: yes, it is
[09:47] <mzo> no, I didnt
[09:47] <Madpilot> !tell mzo about repos
[09:48] <mzo> let me see if i can do that
[09:48] <aftertaf> mzo:  yep.
[09:48] <aftertaf> :) Madpilot
[09:48] <woldemar> Ho can i INSTALL kde in UBUNTU 5.04
[09:49] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <woldemar> blin
[09:49] <voc> hola
[09:49] <voc> spanish
[09:49] <aftertaf> !es
[09:49] <airtonix> aftertaf, so.... do you have any ideas why my installation didn't result in a gui being installed?
[09:49] <woldemar> bay
[09:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:50] <aftertaf> airtonix:  did you choose servr install option?
[09:50] <erick> guys anyperson from philippines?
[09:50] <airtonix> aftertaf, noah, Im pretty sure i started of with linux vga=771 netcfg/diasable_dhcp=true
[09:50] <aftertaf> !ph
[09:50] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:50] <aftertaf> airtonix:  weird......
[09:51] <airtonix> aftertaf, ja, tis lots wier
[09:51] <airtonix> aftertaf, not to worry right now, apt-get is chugging away
[09:51] <airtonix> anyone from internode here
[09:53] <mzo> aftertaf, thanks, your info helped.  I've got it working now.
[09:53] <aftertaf> cool :)
[09:53] <mzo> aftertaf, oh one more quick question.   I added the binary packages, but should I add the source and updates as well?/
[09:55] <aftertaf> mzo:  sources, no real need.....    updates, yep.
[09:55] <mzo> gotcha
[09:55] <StarKruzr> I went back to Debian because I thought its kernel support was more flexible.  Dumbass.
[09:56] <aftertaf> lol
[09:56] <StarKruzr> FORGIVE ME, MARK
[09:59] <brownie17> does anyone know anything about ntldr?
[10:00] <aftertaf> a bit brownie17
[10:00] <airtonix> something to do with mbr
[10:00] <brownie17> aftertaf, why isn't windows showing up in GRUB?
[10:00] <brownie17> aftertaf, could it be because NTLDR is missing?
[10:00] <aftertaf> brownie17:  have you added it, like the example shows you in menu.lst?
[10:00] <aftertaf> nope, ntldr is on the mbr
[10:01] <brownie17> aftertaf, yes i have added it.
[10:01] <aftertaf> is it the correct partition?
[10:01] <lucaas> brownie17, have you added it outside the "debian auto-update" area?
[10:01] <brownie17> i am not sure, how about i send you my grub file and the output of sudo fdisk, and you tell me?
[10:02] <lucaas> if you are in breezy, i think only breezy is affected by that
[10:02] <brownie17> lucaas, sorry, explain please?
[10:02] <brownie17> lucaas, i am in hoary
[10:04] <brownie17> aftertaf, what was the command to check the fstab again?
[10:04] <lucaas> in menu.lst, there is a section called "DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[10:04] <lucaas> ", and the entries there gets removed on kernel updates
[10:04] <lucaas> you could do  cat /etc/fstab
[10:04] <brownie17> lucaas, it isn't a kernel problem, this happened not from a kernel update, but destroying an old partition with win98
[10:05] <lucaas> oh, i see
[10:05] <N6REJ> well, everything works, but I'm not happy about not being able to see via the fqdn what the public sees.
[10:06] <TokenBad> are there any live cd linux versions for low end pc's?
[10:07] <brownie17> TokenBad, how low end? ubuntu is prety easy to run, you only need pentium
[10:07] <TokenBad> its like 256 meg ddr ram
[10:07] <lucaas> brownie17, you could do "sudo fdisk -l" to check what partitions you have
[10:07] <brownie17> TokenBad, that should esaily run ubuntu, nbut it is not the only requirement. check on the website
[10:08] <brownie17> lucaas, where is the grub list stored again?
[10:08] <lucaas> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:08] <TokenBad> cpu is 2ghz
[10:09] <lucaas> TokenBad, the ubuntu live cd is sortof slow, but it should run good anyway
[10:09] <daejavu> need some help with the lib files !!
[10:09] <daejavu> i copied a game Savage and it has a Linux folder with a subfolder of Lib .. there are lib files in it .. where do i paste emm in my linux system ?
[10:10] <tga> howdy
[10:10] <brownie17> lucaas, i am having problems. in the grub thing, it stores partition names as examples (hdb0,0) rather than hda1 like fdisk does
[10:10] <tga> I'm having trouble getting tap-to-drag to work with my Synaptics Alps touchpad.. any idea where to look?
[10:11] <lucaas> yes, its a little confusing sometimes
[10:11] <brownie17> lucaas, how can i find out which is which?
[10:11] <lucaas> well, hd0,0 is the first partition on the first harddrive = hda1
[10:12] <N6REJ> hmmmmm my router has a <null> for hostname of the server... I wonder why that is?
[10:12] <lucaas> brownie17, what partition does your windows partition have?
[10:13] <brownie17> lucaas, well windows is in my grub file fine then
[10:13] <nsomniac> bugger
[10:13] <nsomniac> 2 security issues with Ruby
[10:14] <lucaas> brownie17, can you pm the windows section, and i'll check if see sth worng
[10:14] <brownie17> lucaas, my windows one is hda1, and in the grub file it is hdb0,0 should i remove the b?
[10:14] <lucaas> yes
[10:14] <lucaas> title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
[10:14] <lucaas> root            (hd0,0)
[10:14] <lucaas> makeactive
[10:14] <lucaas> chainloader     +1
[10:14] <netmonk> what is the link for the breezyRC?
[10:14] <lucaas> thats how mine looks like
[10:15] <aftertaf> brownie17:  thers your pb ;)
[10:15] <aftertaf> hdb
[10:15] <brownie17> aftertaf, mines also got no "makeactive"
[10:15] <aftertaf> hd([0-3] ,
[10:15] <lucaas> i dont think thats a problem
[10:15] <brownie17> ok
[10:15] <brownie17> ill add it anyway just in case?
[10:16] <pupil> well boys and girls,. the OS is loading
[10:16] <pupil> SWEET,.
[10:17] <pupil> ok,. I admit,. this is exciting
[10:17] <lucaas> brownie17, hmmm, dunno, you could try with it or without it, and if it doesnt work, try the other
[10:17] <lucaas> :)
[10:17] <brownie17> allright, im going to rebot now
[10:17] <brownie17> reboot*
[10:17] <pupil> I mean, i'm installing another OS,. AND,. i'm chatting,. on the same compu ter
[10:17] <lucaas> good luck
[10:17] <pupil> I mean,. how cool is that.
[10:17] <lucaas> pupil, pretty kewl :>
[10:17] <aftertaf> pupil:  how cool!!!!!!!!!!!    damn cool man
[10:18] <pupil> you gotta love LINUX
[10:18] <aftertaf> soooo much:)
[10:18] <Skid> lol
[10:18] <Skid> litearlly, I lol'd at that
[10:18] <Skid> gee, I'm sad
[10:18] <Skid> :'(
[10:18] <aftertaf> kills me almost every day how good it is.
[10:18] <aftertaf> :/
[10:18] <pupil> LOL
[10:19] <pupil> QEMU is really nice
[10:19] <aftertaf> LOLITUDE TO BEHAD
[10:19] <pupil> I had to innovative, and it worked out
[10:19] <aftertaf> oops caps error
[10:19] <pupil> to be innovative
[10:19] <pupil> I didnt have a proper windows 98 cd,. I had the files,. but the cd was not bootable
[10:20] <pupil> I'll explain why I had to put windows 98 on later
[10:20] <N6REJ> bur[n] er: I have a question for you please... is this correct for the /etc/hosts file if I was www. to be the external ip and adam. to be the internal ?  Adam is the machines name..... <IP_ADDRESS>     adam.cogyfarm.com       adam
[10:20] <N6REJ> <IP_ADDRESS> adam.cogyfarm.com       adam
[10:21] <brownie17> lucaas, didn't work still
[10:21] <brownie17> lucaas, actually i think i might have forgotten to save
[10:21] <lucaas> :>
[10:22] <brownie17> lucaas, nope, i saved. it didn't wokr
[10:22] <brownie17> lucaas, take out the "makeactive" and try again?
[10:22] <lucaas> hm.. try removing/adding makeactive
[10:22] <lucaas> yes
[10:22] <brownie17> does anyone know what the "makeactive" when adding linux partitions to grub does?
[10:23] <aftertaf> brownie17:  paste your grub windows bit in a pm if you want ;)
[10:23] <lyle> question:  I set up ndiswrapper according to the how-to wiki page, but iwconfig returns only three devices, all "no wireless extension," and no device named wlan0.
[10:23] <aftertaf> makeactive == bootable i think
[10:23] <pupil> So anyway, what I had to do to get my winblows 98 to install ,. was I had to initialise the cdrom the virtual hardisk and the floppy,. downloaded a bootable from bootdisk.com
[10:23] <N6REJ> lyle: what brand nic you got?
[10:23] <pupil> dd'd the image to a floppy,.
[10:23] <lyle> Broadcom
[10:24] <pupil> then,. with QEMU,. boot the floppy,.
[10:24] <signius> Is it worth me waiting another 4days for the official breezy how different is it going to be from the RC available for download now ?
[10:24] <N6REJ> lyle: thats teh brand of the nic itself? or the chipset?
[10:24] <lyle> ah, sorry.  hang on...
[10:24] <N6REJ> lyle: its not a belkin by any chance is it?
[10:25] <aftertaf> brand
[10:25] <vengeful> lyle...my desktop lists it as wlan but my laptop lists it as eth1
[10:25] <N6REJ> mine says wlan0 :D
[10:25] <signius> No you need to run lspci to find out that the actual chipset is
[10:26] <smott> i installed xlockmore... whats the command to use it then (it aint xlockmore or xlock)?
[10:26] <signius> Linux calls almost everything eth1 and is pretty meaniless
[10:26] <brownie17> aftertaf, in my other partitions, the word boot is on the line below, should i also try that?
[10:26] <N6REJ> signius: reason i'm asking him is the wiki won't work for the f5d7001... I was given another link and I can't find it in my history files, but therer is a MINOR change that you need to make in order to get it to work.
[10:27] <vengeful> yeh weird how it calls my wireless in desktop wlan and one in my laptop eth1
[10:27] <N6REJ> signius: it came from the hoary wiki.
[10:27] <signius> I will confess i am not at all familiar with using or setting up wiki
[10:27] <vengeful> at least i thought it was anyway..not that i care..cos it works :-P
[10:27] <N6REJ> cc vengeful
[10:28] <kemik> N6REJ:  native drivers, or trying ndiswrapper ?
[10:28] <N6REJ> I wish I could find that website, cause it needs to be given for broadcom devices.
[10:28] <N6REJ> yeah, you MUST use ndis, but you have to turn radio off and use both 5a.inf & 5a.sys NOT 5.inf only!
[10:28] <N6REJ> there are several steps
[10:29] <kemik> okie :|
[10:29] <N6REJ> let me try to find this file... so someone can put it right.
[10:29] <N6REJ> I should've printed the dang thing out.
[10:29] <signius> Broadcom fucking sux when it comes to anything other than windows
[10:29] <N6REJ> signius:  it was easy once I knew what to do.
[10:29] <lyle> in device manager, I see a "Networking Interface," vendor unknown.  Is that what I'm looking for?
[10:29] <lyle> realtek semiconductor
[10:30] <N6REJ> lyle, ok... give me a few, I have to search my internet history files... this may take a while unless anyone else knows where the ndis in hoary is.
[10:30] <signius> I cannot understand the nievity of some hardware manufacturers not releasing specs to enable drivers to be written or at least produce binary drivers to make there products available to the largest market possible hence selling more of what they manufacture hardware
[10:31] <Skid> its not nievity on all accounts
[10:31] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[10:31] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:31] <N6REJ> where is the hoary wiki's?
[10:31] <kemik> you mean that N6REJ ?
[10:32] <signius> How different is 5.10RC available for download now likely to be from the Full Release in 4 days time ?
[10:32] <N6REJ> no, that one won't work.
[10:32] <tga> how can I get my Alps touchpad to tap-to-drag?
[10:32] <Madpilot> N6REJ: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is the front page to the whole wiki, for all the versions of Ubuntu...
[10:32] <N6REJ> well, I was given a different one, that worked once I changed the driver file
[10:33] <brownie17> aftertaf, it didn't work
[10:33] <aftertaf> pffffffff!!!!!!!!!
[10:33] <brownie17> aftertaf, why wouldn't it even appear after i put it in the file!?
[10:33] <aftertaf> !grub
[10:33] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:33] <lux`> are italian here?
[10:33] <signius> Also if you need rfmon for things like kismet the ndis wrappers are useless as rfmon mode is not available in windows without expensive proprietry additional drivers
[10:33] <Madpilot> !+it
[10:33] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:33] <signius> and as ndis is using the windows drivers your screwed
[10:34] <lux`> ty
[10:34] <Skid> buy a nice cisco :P
[10:34] <signius> Just bouaght myself a nice Cisco Aironet 350  dual external antenna wireless NIC
[10:34] <lux`> !it
[10:34] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:35] <lux`> it
[10:35] <lux`> !rox
[10:35] <lux`> !breezy
[10:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:35] <signius> though its got to be said the ancontrol and an drivers under bsd put the Linux drivers to shame
[10:35] <lux`> lol i have breezy :)
[10:35] <shoshe> ppl .. i have a big problem .. please help !
[10:36] <signius> Though i have yet to find out if ancontrol is available under Linux
[10:36] <Madpilot> shoshe: if you ask an actual question, you might get actual help...
[10:36] <brownie17> aftertaf, can you please read this and tell me if you think this applies to me? http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Chain_002dloading
[10:36] <brownie17> aftertaf, are you completely familiar with my problem?
[10:36] <shoshe> well my Xwindows is not starting .. i left it working ..came back and there was an error !
[10:36] <bbr__> e
[10:36] <signius> The error might be of some use
[10:37] <signius> thought i am just guessing
[10:37] <shoshe> im using text based BitchX to do the chat now .
[10:37] <signius> thought = though
[10:37] <tga> hmm.. I've added the Alps options from the readme to my Xorg.conf but I still don't have tap-to-drag or scrolling working with my Synaptics
[10:37] <tga> shoshe, try irssi, it's nicer
[10:37] <shoshe> how can i send the output of my X so that u guyz can check it ?
[10:37] <tga> shoshe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:38] <tga> shoshe, oh, nevermind me
[10:38] <N6REJ> anyone know how to do a word search through firefox history files?
[10:38] <shoshe> tga irssi is not available (throught apt-get)
[10:38] <Skid> shoshe: apt-get install irssi-text
[10:39] <Skid> <- uni. bbl
[10:39] <tga> shoshe, apt-cache search irssi helps
[10:39] <aftertaf> brownie17:  looking... i am a bit familiar but i dont have my home dual boot pc here, im at work.
[10:39] <Madpilot> tga: I think irssi is installed by default?
[10:39] <tga> the Xorg log shows no Synaptics errors, just the device being initialized and everything
[10:39] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[10:40] <shoshe> yeah .. irsii is installed :D .. !! didnt knew that ..
[10:40] <lyle> N6REJ: any luck?
[10:40] <shoshe> ok .. ill just tell the problem here ..
[10:40] <N6REJ> lyle: looking... *sigh*.. if you type ndiswrapper -l what does it say?
[10:41] <aftertaf> brownie17:  i know i did the chainload thing.  chainloader +1
[10:41] <shoshe> when i start the x "startx" .. it shows the first black n white screen with an X cursor and then it crashes !!
[10:41] <emuzesto> Hi, I need some help with getting the WEP for the wlan right. When I use $sudo iwconfig key hexadecimalstring, I get a serie of zeroes behind the string. When I do $sudo iwconfig key s:asciicode, two and two pairs switch place. What should I do to get it right?
[10:42] <lyle> N6REJ: it lists three drivers, two of which I tried installing and found weren't the right ones.  One says present, the others "invalid."
[10:42] <aftertaf> shoshe:  does it give you an error message?
[10:42] <shoshe> aftertaf yeah .. lemme type it here .. plz wait !
[10:42] <brownie17> aftertaf, yeah i have that too. i am thinking that has sometthing to do with loading old OS's that aren't supported, i might try removing it?
[10:42] <N6REJ> lyle: OK GREAT.. the one that says present is the right one... do this..
[10:42] <tga> shoshe, you need to look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[10:42] <N6REJ> ndiswrapper -e thebaddrivername
[10:43] <N6REJ> dang, trying to remember all the steps.
[10:43] <aftertaf> brownie17:  maybe, i cant help you more than that.....
[10:43] <brownie17> aftertaf, ok
[10:43] <aftertaf> ill have a look at my pc tonight...
[10:43] <LasseL> breezy freezes with the ati drivers, anyone else seeing this?
[10:43] <AES_24_96> is there something better now safer for pc backup than norton ghost?
[10:43] <N6REJ> I've got to find the darn page.... I can't remember!!!!
[10:43] <N6REJ> I HATE MY OLD BRAIN!!!!
[10:44] <LasseL> total lockup, no screen updates, no keyboard
[10:44] <aftertaf> with partition map & all.... is you windows partition set as an active partition? you know, when you installed and were in disk part creation tool?
[10:44] <shoshe> tga its a preety big file :D !!
[10:44] <lyle> N6REJ: Okay, done.
[10:44] <aftertaf> i had to reset mine as active (ie can boot from it)
[10:44] <N6REJ> ok, now sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[10:45] <brownie17> aftertaf, i was able to boot from it until i destroyed the windows98 partititon that was apparently containing some MBR info or something?]
[10:45] <shoshe_> irssi and bitchx looks the same to me ! :D
[10:46] <lyle> N6REJ: okay.
[10:46] <shoshe_> it says Failed to load module "glx"  !!
[10:46] <aftertaf> win 98 sux...... and its bootloader is a joke....   thtis obviously dont help you, but is true... :/
[10:46] <N6REJ> this is where I'm stuck.. hang on.
[10:46] <brownie17> enyc, you there still? i am still having trouble with my windows partition
[10:47] <brownie17> aftertaf, :) microsoft in general suck
[10:47] <aftertaf> brownie17:  the world is their collection of betatesters... is the problem.
[10:47] <Syruss> lol
[10:47] <Syruss> everyone
[10:47] <Hobbsee> lol
[10:47] <Syruss> please, stop trying to dual boot with windows
[10:48] <Hobbsee> why? it works most of the time
[10:48] <brownie17> Syruss, why is that?
[10:48] <aftertaf> use qemu
[10:48] <Syruss> because why do you even want windows for a start
[10:48] <brownie17> what is qemu?
[10:48] <ormandj> google.com
[10:48] <Syruss> use kqemu
[10:48] <Syruss> that uses virtualisation
[10:48] <lux`> qemu RoX :)
[10:48] <Brik> i can't find w32codec in breezy repository....(restricted main multiverse universe)....Why?
[10:48] <aftertaf> lux`:  aparently, yeah.
[10:48] <lux`> xen more :)
[10:48] <aftertaf> Brik:  because its a sick bird
[10:48] <Hobbsee> Syruss: for me, because they dont have sims 2 for linux, and it doesnt run under cedega.
[10:48] <brownie17> Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up
[10:48] <aftertaf> Brik:  an ill eagle ;)
[10:49] <brownie17> Syruss, actually probably more like $300
[10:49] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[10:49] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:49] <tulus> surabaya
[10:49] <shoshe_> aftertaf: hey can you tell me what to do it my Xwin is not working and it gives this messagge "Failed to load module "glx"  "
[10:49] <aftertaf> shoshe:  what distro? what gfx card?
[10:50] <Syruss> brownie17 Syruss, because my printer & scanner and gamepad don't work with linux. no drivers. they're worth about $200 all up
[10:50] <Syruss> lies.
[10:50] <shoshe_> Ubuntu ... Ati Radeon 9600
[10:50] <tulus> haii
[10:50] <lux`> omg
[10:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  breezy or hoary?
[10:50] <Syruss> you can get pretty much anything to work under linux
[10:50] <Syruss> stop being lazy
[10:50] <tulus> kenalan dong
[10:50] <Syruss> :)
[10:50] <brownie17> Syruss, want to help me make them work then? not lies, mistakes maybe
[10:50] <shoshe_> aftertaf: hoary !
[10:50] <tulus> matamu
[10:50] <aftertaf> !tell tulus about ph
[10:51] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok...., can you paste to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg/conf file ???
[10:51] <brownie17> Syruss, i really want my printer to work, will you help me? it is an epson stylus c45
[10:51] <vengeful> shoshe, is glx in your xorg.conf ?
[10:51] <Brik> !w32codecs
[10:51] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[10:51] <vengeful> i guess aftertaf thinks the same thing hehe
[10:51] <shoshe_> aftertaf: how do i do that ? im completely on terminal and dont know much abt it !
[10:51] <aftertaf> ;) vengeful
[10:51] <N6REJ> FOUND IT!!
[10:51] <tulus> aku piyeora kok jak omong
[10:51] <N6REJ> lyle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[10:51] <aftertaf> shoshe:  hmm...
[10:52] <aftertaf> !ph
[10:52] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[10:52] <shoshe_> vengeful: i think there was a section with "glx" in it .. like modules i think !
[10:52] <aftertaf> tulus:  !!!!!!!!
[10:52] <brownie17> who knows anything about printers?
[10:52] <N6REJ> do everything it says.
[10:52] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  what is that link for?
[10:52] <N6REJ> only use the driver you found that it recognized instead.
[10:52] <Hobbsee> brownie17: they're the things you print from?  Your question is rather general :P
[10:52] <aftertaf> shoshe:  comment out the "glx" line and try again....
[10:52] <tulus> gaul men
[10:53] <N6REJ> aftertaf: its gets teh broadcom 4306 nics going!
[10:53] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie .. lemme try !
[10:53] <erick> guys any  P2P client available for ubuntu
[10:53] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  only for broadcom NICs?
[10:53] <N6REJ> it will work for the belkin f5d7001 IF you use 5a instead of 5
[10:53] <Ng> erick: loads, which network do you want to use? edonkey? kazaa?
[10:53] <N6REJ> thats 5a.inf instead of 5.inf
[10:54] <N6REJ> and it will work first time out the gate!
[10:54] <erick> anything as long as I can download
[10:54] <Ng> erick: well I like edonkey and amule is quite a nice client, so install that and have a play I guess ;)
[10:54] <shoshe_> aftertaf: nops .. it says " fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
[10:54] <vengeful> erick...whatcha want to download
[10:54] <aftertaf> erick:  search p2p in synaptic
[10:54] <N6REJ> thank god for GOOGLE!! I had to keep drilling down one word at a time as I remembered bits and pieces.
[10:54] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. do you have the restricted mods installed?***
[10:54] <erick> guys thank I will try
[10:54] <Ng> aftertaf: that's not actually a very helpful search, it only finds two ;)
[10:54] <Ng> amule and a DC hub daemon ;)
[10:55] <shoshe_> aftertaf: restricted mods ? whats that ?
[10:55] <aftertaf> shoshe:  type uname -a ..... what does it say?
[10:55] <N6REJ> aftertaf: now, how do we get that moved to teh breezy wiki and updated for the f5d7001?
[10:56] <shoshe_> aftertaf Linux 2.6.10-5-386
[10:56] <lee> hello all
[10:57] <shoshe_> aftertaf: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 and kernel headers are also installed !
[10:58] <tombs> hi all
[10:58] <Stricklin> What should the permissions for all the files and folders in home be?
[10:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. what is your processor?
[10:58] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: the user
[10:58] <shoshe_> aftertaf: Athlon Xp 2600
[10:58] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  its a WIKI, you can add it if you want :)
[10:58] <Stricklin> not owner, permissions
[10:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok....... You can get the linux-k7 package , optimised for your proc architecture
[10:58] <erick> Ng I will try amule, becasue its on the repository of ubuntu
[10:59] <lee> I am running hoary (v5.4?  whatever's right before breezy) and yesterday I updated everything the ubuntu update manager suggested... today the machine won't boot.  it sits at 'configuring network' for a good few minutes then moves on and tries to start X three times, fails, gives me the text dialog asking if I want to view the log, and it won't let me choose yes or no, or switch to another console, or do anything.  it does the same in recovery mode (I can't ...
[10:59] <lee> ... provide a root password as there isn't one and hitting return doesn't work).  any suggestions how I can get my system working again?
[10:59] <shoshe_> aftertaf: will that solve the prob ?
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> Stricklin, its your home ....you set the permissions you want
[10:59] <ericf> I can repeatedly crash nautilus, don't know why, but it seems to happen when browsing a dir via a symlink. How can I make a backtrace? I should use gdb for that, right?
[10:59] <aftertaf> shoshe:  it is a step towards ;)
[10:59] <frank_b> Hi all. I lost sound in my Ubuntu. Checked the hardware and and tried a live CD and it's Ubuntu's fault. Any suggestions?
[10:59] <shoshe_> aftertaf: cool !  how do i do that ? :D
[10:59] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: only view and modify for groups, full read write for user seems to be the default here
[10:59] <Hobbsee> frank_b: what type of sound card?
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, it's a "inboard" one...
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, in a P$
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, in a P4
[11:00] <frank_b> Hobbsee, or "onboard", sorry for my english...
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok... your PC is online right?
[11:01] <shoshe_> aftertaf: yup .. a 20kb download speed .. alive n ready !
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  you've updated your sources.list to point to the repositories and not the cd?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> frank_b: in alsamixer (in console) check if everything is unmuted
[11:01] <aftertaf> shoshe:  type this:   sudo apt-get install  linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:02] <Q-FUNK> could anyone tell me where is the incoming queue? I'm trying to find a new package that was blogged about and supposedly has been uploaded to universe.
[11:02] <wizard> hey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis
[11:02] <Hobbsee> frank_b: after that, mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense, then test your sound again
[11:02] <aftertaf> shoshe:  and before rebooting, if you havent done so, edit grub to make it show you the menu, that way you can choose the right kernel to boot to.....
[11:02] <frank_b> ah... don't know how to do that,  but I'll try to figure it out...
[11:02] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok
[11:03] <Hobbsee> frank_b: you know how to get a terminal window open?
[11:03] <shoshe_> aftertaf: yeah it shows the menu .. im to download abt 67mb .. and i upgraded my repositories from the ubuntuguide.org
[11:03] <frank_b> Hobbsee, yes... :)
[11:03] <frank_b> Hobbsee, just never used the program... seems to be "text mode"...
[11:03] <mattyJ> im trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:04] <wizard> any ideas guys? thnx
[11:04] <Hobbsee> frank_b: ok, type alsamixer
[11:04] <shoshe_> aftertaf: but it has asked me to put the cd as well
[11:04] <aftertaf> cool shoshe:  or you can just aptget linux-restricted-modules-i386..... i suggest getting that one too, so that X works ok on both kernel choices, but better having a kernel for your k7 ;)
[11:04] <ericf> can anybody tell me how to make a backtrace of a nautilus crash? I can repeatedly crash it, and want to have some useful in formation for bugzilla.
[11:04] <frank_b> Hobbsee, the card, by the way, it shows in the program, it's a: "Card: VIA 8237, Chip: Realtek ALC655 rev 0"
[11:04] <Cueball|Work> Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu with KDE installed. I would like to change all the gnome stuff to use Kaffeine as default instead of Totem. What program or file can I use/edit to achive this, Thanx.
[11:04] <aftertaf> shoshe:  thats ok.... put in the cd. if packages are same version online and on CD, may as well use whats on cd.
[11:04] <Hobbsee> frank_b: then go thru and make sure that all the faders (long lines) are all up to max, and that none of them show "MM" which means mute
[11:04] <aftertaf> brb
[11:04] <shoshe_> aftertaf: will i get any performance boost as well ?
[11:05] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I have already, just trying to figure out how to work hte program
[11:05] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[11:05] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[11:05] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie !
[11:05] <aftertaf> shoshe:  optimised ... o faster ;)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> frank_b: hit f1 for help, and use the keyboard
[11:05] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ah.. ok. got it.
[11:05] <shoshe_> aftertaf: thanks for the time dude .. appreciate it :)
[11:05] <mattyJ> im trying to install totem-xine but when i do it wants to remove rhythmbox, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> frank_b: nice, and mute headphone jack sense and line jack sense?
[11:06] <Stricklin> oops
[11:06] <Hobbsee> frank_b: hit m for them
[11:06] <LasseL> Cueball|Work, just rightclick the files in nautilus and select properties -> open with
[11:07] <Hobbsee> then hit q to quit, and test your sound again
[11:08] <Stricklin> It turns out I misread the error message anyway. It actually read, "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should [sic]  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."
[11:08] <LasseL> Hobbsee, careful, I got the same advice (to turn up the volume on everything) but in fact one very obscure sound channel had to be *muted* before my sound worked
[11:08] <Stricklin> So it wasn't talking about the entire /home directory, just that one file
[11:09] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'll try to know more about the program then... thanks for your help.
[11:09] <erick> Ng how can i connect amule, there is no option for connect
[11:09] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'll try also different things to see what happens
[11:10] <Hobbsee> LasseL: you bet, it was the headphone jack sense and the line jack sense?  that was the problem with mine
[11:10] <Hobbsee> frank_b: no problems, did it end up working?
[11:10] <LasseL> frank_b, make sure you try to mute incomming channels, called stuff like "capture" or line in
[11:11] <LasseL> Hobbsee, mine was called some wierd code I didn't figure it out before I googled on the name of my chipset
[11:11] <Hobbsee> lol...that would be fun
[11:11] <Ng> erick: in the Servers tab, click the blue arrow at the top left, that gets a server list
[11:12] <Pshivers> lo, anyone using breezy here?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> Pshivers: sure
[11:12] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok. got it. I'm just trying to figure out which ones are "haedphone" and "line"...
[11:12] <Hobbsee> frank_b: they're towards the end, just keep pressing the arrow keys...
[11:14] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok.
[11:14] <wizard> hey guys need some help, did some updates and now no sound... says i have sis snd card in system-> sound but i have sb 5.1.. whcih is on the list but when i chose it and close it goes back to sis
[11:14] <erick> Ng tnxs,
[11:15] <Hobbsee> wizard: you're sound is definetly turned up?
[11:15] <ericf> I want to make a backtrace of nautilus, but if I start it in gdb, then it quickly quits. It looks like it hands over control to another existing thread, and I try to kill nautilus but it automatically restarts. How to make a backtrace?
[11:15] <wizard> i can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have
[11:15] <aftertaf> shoshe:  no pb :)
[11:15] <aftertaf> i get help here too...
[11:16] <hanno> Hi.
[11:16] <Stricklin> How do I correct this? "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File sould  be owned by user and have 644 permissions."
[11:16] <Ng> ericf: if you remove nautilus from your session and kill it, it should stop restarting itself automatically
[11:16] <Ng> ericf: then when you run it in gdb you should be on the main process
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> Stricklin, chmod and chown ...
[11:16] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  try in shell : chmod 644 .dmrc
[11:17] <aftertaf> failing that, rename it, remove the . and try again
[11:17] <winner> does anyone know how to lock in xterm that meta key sends escape?
[11:17] <Stricklin> I see... I reversed the 644 and the .dmrc
[11:18] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:18] <airtonix> aftertaf, howdy dude, still having probs with that pesky dekstop
[11:18] <patricka> hi all
[11:18] <winner> hey
[11:18] <aftertaf> grrrr..... airtonix
[11:18] <aftertaf> whats happening?
[11:18] <airtonix> woops
[11:18] <aftertaf> hi patricka
[11:18] <ericf> Ng: thanks, that's indeed what I want. But you mean System>preferences>sessions, right? I removed it there, but it keeps restarting
[11:18] <LasseL> Stricklin, I use 640 or even 600 in my home folder
[11:18] <patricka> my ubuntu desktop is fubar... need some help!
[11:19] <Hobbsee> patricka: more info needed
[11:19] <aftertaf> elaborate on fubar :)
[11:19] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: you dont know what fubar is lol?
[11:19] <Ng> ericf: hmm, did you hit Apply in that session editor?
[11:19] <aftertaf> i do
[11:19] <hanno> How do I use shared folders from other Windows boxes on the local net? I know that I can browse and copy files with Nautilus, but how do I open remote files from within applications (such as Gimp). KDE can do it (with KDE apps, though), but how do I do that in Gnome? Is there some shortcut to do "mount -t smbfs" from within Nautilus?
[11:19] <Stricklin> LasseL, I'm just doin' what it tells me... :)
[11:19] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: i thought you would have to!
[11:19] <wizard> hobb: i can get sound to work in xmms if i manually chose alsa and sb .. but some SiS sound card is in the option list too.... in ghome's sound it defaults to the SiS card.. which i do not have
[11:20] <patricka> i've got 7 dialogs popping up on gnome login. they all read more or less: "Error Failed to load image *fubar* Detailds: Unrecognized image file format". Seems to mainly be .png images.
[11:20] <Hobbsee> i dont use gnome or xmms, i'm not much help you you
[11:20] <ericf> Ng: hmpf, I should have seen that one myself. Thank you.
[11:20] <wizard> ok np thnx
[11:20] <sweet-redlip> hello
[11:20] <airtonix> aftertaf, after sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i get the response : counldnt find package ubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <aftertaf> airtonix:  that sux.
[11:21] <Hobbsee> airtonix: that's weird, that's definetly the name of that package
[11:21] <aftertaf> have you changed your sources.list?
[11:21] <patricka> (various desktop icons are just a red cross)
[11:21] <wickedpuppy> airtonix, i can confirm thats the exact name ... i just searched
[11:21] <shoshe_> aftertaf: ok .. its installed .. what do i do now ?
[11:21] <Hobbsee> wickedpuppy: same here :P
[11:21] <aftertaf> patricka:  ahh.... gnome pbs are not my specialty.
[11:22] <airtonix> great, i may have to reinstall
[11:22] <Hobbsee> lol...another kubuntu user aftertaf
[11:22] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok...... reboot. and make sure you choose the k7 kernel.
[11:22] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  indeed i am.
[11:22] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[11:22] <ubotu> fvwm is much better than xfce!
[11:22] <Hobbsee> LOL
[11:22] <patricka> aftertaf: thanks for trying
[11:22] <frank_b> Hobbsee, I'm not being successfull, but it's ok. I'm going to repartition this hard drive today anyway. I was just trying to see if it was a simple problem or not. Thanks for your help.
[11:22] <shoshe_> aftertaf: do i need to make any change in the grub list ... or will it come automatically ?
[11:22] <vengeful> no way...xfce is better
[11:22] <aftertaf> everyone has the right to choose, and i choose !=Gnome
[11:23] <Hobbsee> frank_b: no problems, check google with the name of your card
[11:23] <shoshe_> aftertaf: okie dokie .. here goes nothing !!
[11:23] <vengeful> just thought id join in
[11:23] <aftertaf> shoshe:  automagical kernel detection ;)
[11:23] <aftertaf> vengeful:  :)
[11:23] <frank_b> Hobbsee, ok. thanks.
[11:23] <frank_b> bye
[11:23] <Stricklin> Okay, I changed it to 644 and still got the alert when I logged in...
[11:23] <aftertaf> shoshe:  good luck ;)
[11:23] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  are you the owner?
[11:23] <airtonix> aftertaf, Hobbsee , should i be setting something up to get gnome running?
[11:23] <Stricklin> Hmmmm
[11:23] <aftertaf> chown.
[11:24] <aftertaf> airtonix:  yep... kubuntu-desktop ;)
[11:24] <Hobbsee> airtonix: you're aware that you're asking 2 kubuntu users?
[11:24] <aftertaf> :)
[11:24] <Hobbsee> ROFL @ aftertaf
[11:24] <airtonix> jack-, k or g is good
[11:24] <airtonix> arrrr bloody tab completeion
[11:24] <airtonix> and gesticular dyslexia
[11:25] <airtonix> i'll give kubuntu-desktop a go
[11:25] <patricka> (i've got all the dialogs open, and can send a screenshot if it helps.)
[11:25] <aftertaf> heheh
[11:25] <aftertaf> kubuntu +1 :)
[11:25] <airtonix> arrrrr same thing
[11:25] <airtonix> no packages
[11:25] <aftertaf> airtonix:  pastebin your soreces.list
[11:26] <aftertaf> erf me too
[11:26] <airtonix> might take me a while to find it
[11:26] <aftertaf> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <aftertaf> no it wont ;)
[11:26] <Stricklin> Okay, let's see if that fixes it
[11:26] <airtonix> aftertaf, by pastebin, i vaguely remeber someone saying asomething about a website?
[11:26] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[11:26] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:26] <airtonix> aftertaf, oh cheers the path
[11:26] <aftertaf> :D
[11:27] <patricka> ubotu: thanks
[11:27] <ubotu> patricka: bitte
[11:27] <airtonix> nice one
[11:27] <aftertaf> StrikeForce:  what is the .dmrc file actually for?
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> Digital Management Right Config
[11:27] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:27] <aftertaf> lol
[11:27] <airtonix> aftertaf, whats this about !pastebin, is it a irc command?
[11:27] <aftertaf> !bot
[11:27] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to aftertaf? I think not.  X dosent start !
[11:28] <aftertaf> ubotu is a bot..... the ! gets him to reply to things in his KB
[11:28] <ubotu> aftertaf: Wish i knew
[11:28] <airtonix> ohhhhh right
[11:28] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. lets get into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then....... whats the error msg again? glx still?
[11:29] <aftertaf> !ati
[11:29] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:29] <Hobbsee> lol...someone had fun creating the commands for that bot...
[11:29] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ^^^^
[11:29] <shoshe> aftertaf yup .. the same glx thing
[11:29] <rob^> got a laptop with an Radeon Xpress 200M video card. I have the 3d drivers going, but can't get a resolution above 1024x768 despite editing the xorg.conf file. Any suggestions?
[11:30] <N6REJ> why does it keep kicking me?
[11:30] <Stricklin> No, it still does it
[11:30] <aftertaf> Stricklin:  hmm... what is the .dmrc file a config file for?
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, can i from the linux prompt send you the source list from there
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, for i am currently chatting from a winxp mcahine
[11:31] <ColonelKernel> cmon breezy stable
[11:31] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:31] <airtonix> aftertaf, bad yes
[11:31] <damo21> 4 days! i cant wait that long
[11:31] <aftertaf> airtonix:  are you on breezy or hoary? i think i asked you..... :/
[11:32] <aftertaf> damo21:  dont.
[11:32] <aftertaf> do it now :)
[11:32] <airtonix> aftertaf, hoary
[11:32] <damo21> i have preview
[11:32] <aftertaf> me2 damo21
[11:32] <aftertaf> :)
[11:32] <aftertaf> airtonix:
[11:32] <Stricklin> aftertaf, last environment used
[11:32] <Hobbsee> damo21: just install it then
[11:32] <aftertaf> oops sorry.... annoying to do that. !
[11:32] <bob2> N6REJ: you've been removed from the irc server because your IRC client is crap
[11:32] <bob2> N6REJ: stop using bitchx
[11:32] <shoshe> aftertaf any suggestions then ? :D
[11:32] <aftertaf> lol bob2 to the point ;)
[11:32] <damo21> how? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:32] <aftertaf> airtonix:  hang on ill post you mine ;)
[11:33] <bob2> damo21: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[11:33] <damo21> :)
[11:33] <aftertaf> shoshe:  open your xorg.conf file.......
[11:33] <shoshe> aftertaf opened ..
[11:33] <Stricklin> Googling tells me it should be 755
[11:33] <erick> Guys is mp3 supported by music player
[11:34] <Stricklin> N6REJ, what client was he using?
[11:34] <bob2> erick: sure
[11:34] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok.
[11:34] <airtonix> aftertaf, cheers dude, spose i just replace the contents of mine with that or do i append it?
[11:35] <aftertaf> replace .... put yours in comments though ;)
[11:35] <N6REJ> bob2: I'm not using Bitchx, I'm using chatzilla in Firefox!
[11:35] <patricka> okay, screenshot of icon hell: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2963
[11:35] <Hobbsee> patricka: that's weird!  which version are you on?
[11:35] <patricka> this was a bitch to create as the screenshot function is no longer working (had to use the gimp screen grab)
[11:35] <erick> bob2, how can I add plugin in my music player to support mp3
[11:35] <N6REJ> I wasn't even saying anything for at least the last 40 minutes
[11:35] <patricka> 5.04
[11:36] <airtonix> aftertaf, oh other thing
[11:36] <N6REJ> Stricklin: did I do something wrong?
[11:36] <aftertaf> shoshe:  can you get PMs from your console irc?
[11:36] <damo21> what command can i run to find out version info?
[11:36] <Stricklin> They talk about my problem here, too bad I can't read German (http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/7125/Strange-Error--dmrc-fehler--geloest.html)
[11:36] <bob2> N6REJ: there you go then, it's broken
[11:36] <bob2> erick: gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:36] <aftertaf> damo21:  [command]  -v
[11:36] <bob2> erick: (install it)
[11:36] <airtonix> aftertaf, i did a sudo apt-get install gnome
[11:36] <patricka> Hobbsee: up to date packages on everything
[11:36] <katzor> hi guys, i get a configure error when trying to build edb from enlightenment cvs : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[11:36] <katzor> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[11:36] <damo21> i mean, version of ubuntu
[11:36] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, broken how?  I don't understand.... whats happening?
[11:36] <Stricklin> N6REJ, I was just reading where they kicked you because of your client, and I wondered what it was
[11:36] <shoshe> aftertaf umm i dont think so .. im using BX
[11:36] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:36] <bob2> N6REJ: the irc server thinks you're flooding it, so it booted you off
[11:36] <airtonix> and it tells me that package gnome has no installation candidate
[11:36] <bob2> katzor: install build-essential
[11:37] <katzor> :-)
[11:37] <aftertaf> airtonix:  did you do apt-get update first?
[11:37] <N6REJ> bob2: what do I do? I don't know what to tell firefox people LOL
[11:37] <airtonix> yep
[11:37] <erick> bob2 thanks I will try using synaptic manager
[11:37] <aftertaf> odd!
[11:37] <melvztechie> hello guys, what the command when i want to remove some packages files?
[11:37] <airtonix> mosrt verly
[11:37] <bob2> melvztechie: how did you install them?
[11:37] <Stricklin> Apparently, my problem is one common to Breezy users
[11:37] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. go to the Section Module  part
[11:37] <bob2> N6REJ: just don't use it, or don't do whatever you did
[11:38] <bob2> N6REJ: the irc server thinks you flooded *something*, but it's not this channel
[11:38] <melvztechie> got full space again my HD, got to free up some space
[11:38] <katzor> bob2, thanks, works now!
[11:38] <aftertaf> shoshe:  and put a # in front of the glx line and the dri line
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> melvztechie, you can do so from synaptic ...
[11:38] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, should I use MIRC?
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> N6REJ, are you using windows ?
[11:38] <Stricklin> Oh well, it doesn't seem to really effect anything, except to bother me
[11:38] <N6REJ> yes
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> yes ... mirc would be my choice
[11:38] <bob2> N6REJ: wtf
[11:38] <N6REJ> k, back in a bit... I'm really sorry guys....
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> how to use bitchx in windows ?
[11:39] <bob2> N6REJ: it doesn't affect us at all, use whatever you want
[11:39] <shoshe> aftertaf ok... putting # infront of emm .. should i try starting X ?
[11:39] <bob2> wickedpuppy: use irssi in cygwin, or just ssh to a unix machine
[11:39] <N6REJ> I'm not wicked, I'm using chatzilla
[11:39] <melvztechie> can i do it on command line?
[11:39] <N6REJ> I'm really sorry guys, I didn't mean to mess things up.
[11:39] <wickedpuppy> heh ... i don't get it ... well nvm
[11:39] <N6REJ> be back in a bit.
[11:39] <aftertaf> shoshe:  not yet.... change the driver to "vesa"...... to test X with just std drivers first.
[11:40] <morten0609> sorry I'm new to IRC, but I need help with a problem in Ubuntu concerning web browsing?
[11:40] <wickedpuppy> melvztechie, apt-get remove package
[11:40] <bob2> melvztechie: how did you install them to begin with?
[11:40] <bob2> melvztechie: then just ask
[11:40] <Hobbsee> morten0609: dont ask to ask, just ask - it's one of the best ways to use irc
[11:40] <bob2> morten0609: just ask...
[11:40] <shoshe> aftertaf done !
[11:40] <aftertaf> ok. try startx
[11:40] <morten0609> hehe okay, sorry - did not know if I was at the right place
[11:41] <melvztechie> thanks wickedpuppy and bob2, just worked it by apt-get clean;)
[11:41] <Hobbsee> morten0609:  if you are, we'll tell you
[11:41] <morten0609> here goes: some web pages look all messy when I browse on my Ubuntu machine, but look fine in Windows - with the same browsers
[11:41] <wickedpuppy> clean ?? that doesn't remove any package ... that just clean the local repo
[11:42] <bob2> wickedpuppy: which can save a huge amount of space
[11:42] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, examples pls ? one site will do ... and i assume you use ff on both ?
[11:42] <bob2> wickedpuppy: my apt package cache would be in the gigabytes if I hadn't clean it
[11:42] <morten0609> okay - here's a Danish site: www.bogguiden.dk
[11:42] <wickedpuppy> bob2, ah k ... whaaa ... i better go do it now
[11:43] <morten0609> the text on the left column should be white, but it's dark blue on ubuntu
[11:43] <wickedpuppy> messy alright ....
[11:43] <patricka> damo21: try System | about Ubuntu
[11:43] <wickedpuppy> morten0609, on windows you are using firefox as well ?
[11:44] <shoshe> aftertaf no luck ! it says  "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":
[11:44] <morten0609> yes
[11:44] <morten0609> same problem on mozilla and epiphany
[11:44] <shoshe> aftertaf No Symbols Found !!
[11:44] <wickedpuppy> same version ?
[11:44] <morten0609> using breezy
[11:44] <morten0609> yes
[11:44] <Stricklin> I should go back to bed. I'm driving 200 miles later today.
[11:44] <Hobbsee> Stricklin: ouch
[11:44] <morten0609> same version 1.0.7
[11:44] <aftertaf> libfb. framebuffer.
[11:45] <Stricklin> Eh, Shreveport to Dallas
[11:45] <katzor> morten0609, same problem here with breezy
[11:45] <morten0609> alright - it's not just me then
[11:45] <Stricklin> I've done it so many times I could do it in my sleep. The problem is, I have. ;)
[11:45] <wickedpuppy> heh .. could you submit this bug to firefox devs ???
[11:45] <morten0609> could it be a problem with css?
[11:45] <ThePyromaniac> wow! i got my ogg vorbis files coming out at around 30megs! is this normal?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> morten0609: for some reason, that page is different for mac and windows, it doesnt mention linux
[11:46] <ThePyromaniac> im ripping from CD on quality 1
[11:46] <aftertaf> shoshe:  have you tried the howto on the wiki for ATI?
[11:46] <wickedpuppy> i rather think css should be same in windows or linux ??
[11:46] <morten0609> sorry - what does not mention linux?
[11:46] <Stricklin> Bye
[11:46] <Hobbsee> the page source
[11:46] <ThePyromaniac> anyone ripped ogg vorbis files from CD?
[11:47] <shoshe> aftertaf nops !
[11:47] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, yes SoundJuicer is installed by default and works well
[11:47] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: those files are way too big
[11:47] <ThePyromaniac> katzor damn right it does, my query is this. i was ripping to ogg vorbis files with quality one for a while, and suddenly my files are 30 megs!
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> i was using quality = 1 and they were averaging 4-7 megs
[11:48] <morten0609> this really bugs me cuz I design web pages
[11:48] <shoshe> aftertaf looks like im in for another reinstall :D !!
[11:48] <N6REJ> ok, I'm back.... is this better?
[11:48] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: abcde works great for that
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> now suddenly 15-30!
[11:48] <melvztechie> wickedpuppy: Yup i just need to free up some space, am allready full with packages:D
[11:48] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. could help........ no need to reinstall :)
[11:48] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, funny are you on breezy?
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 in what way is it better than SJ? ^^
[11:48] <aftertaf> shoshe:  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> katzor yes
[11:48] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: I can run it on my desktop via ssh ;)
[11:48] <N6REJ> bob2: is that better?
[11:48] <ThePyromaniac> bob2 cool ^^
[11:48] <bob2> N6REJ: you getting kicked doesn't affect anyone but you
[11:49] <aftertaf> cold, but true^
[11:49] <aftertaf> but cold ;)
[11:49] <shoshe> aftertaf thats already installed ... the latest one
[11:49] <N6REJ> bob2: but its still not cool... it could've gotten me banned eventually right?
[11:49] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:49] <morten0609> the font size is also way too big and the links are supposed to be black according to css and not blue
[11:49] <ThePyromaniac> bug ahoy, if SJ freezes i gotta restart linux to open it again!
[11:49] <katzor> ThePyromaniac, mhh, i ripped a cd 5 mins ago and the whole directory is just 60 megs
[11:49] <morten0609> (I did not design the site, though)
[11:49] <ThePyromaniac> katzor i got 10 songs at 160megs! lol
[11:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"
[11:50] <shoshe> aftertaf that was already done when i installed the drivers :D
[11:50] <morten0609> you guys think this is a breezy bug?
[11:50] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: killing the sj process is not enough? rebooting seems a bit over the top
[11:50] <syrra> ah, hello
[11:50] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok.
[11:51] <bob2> N6REJ: I don't know, perhaps the server would have k-lined you
[11:51] <N6REJ> for anyone thats interested I updated the ndiswrapper wiki to reflect the broadcom 4306 chipset
[11:51] <ThePyromaniac> topyli i use force quit button, i dont know a better way
[11:51] <chris123> hi... does anybody know something about that phtml package?
[11:51] <aftertaf> !ati
[11:51] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:51] <shoshe> aftertaf didnt worked with that as well .. just tried it .. lol !
[11:51] <katzor> :-) ThePyromaniac my SoundJuicer uses quality=0.5 and the files seem to be good
[11:52] <ThePyromaniac> ok, i go back to using 0.5
[11:52] <syrra> there are people in here, I'm so surprised. Lots of times these are empty. Anyway.. hello I have a question. : )
[11:52] <N6REJ> bob2: ok, well hopefully its fixed now.  Whatever it was.
[11:52] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: the process may still be there. take a look with "ps aux |grep juicer"
[11:52] <ThePyromaniac> yes it is
[11:53] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: note that that command will also display your grep process :)
[11:53] <Hobbsee> syrra: ubuntu's almost never empty, were you meaning one of the other channels?
[11:53] <Hobbsee> syrra: shoot
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> topyli it was ok, i did pkill and now it runs ^^
[11:53] <morten0609> wickedpuppy, katzor - any ideas how I should proceed with this - should I submit it as a bug?
[11:53] <ThePyromaniac> it just needed to reset
[11:53] <shoshe> aftertaf the error also says " Could not init Font path element"
[11:54] <syrra> No, I meant irc channels that I find in general. And now... Yes, I need a mud client for Ubuntu. I'm on.. badger I think. Only one that works with this chip set. Or so I'm led to believe.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> ah right,
[11:54] <katzor> morten0609,  yes and try if opera or so do a better job
[11:54] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok. sudo apt-get xfs.
[11:54] <Hobbsee> a mud client?
[11:54] <vengeful> gotta wonder where they think these names up
[11:54] <syrra> yes
[11:54] <syrra> I remember it coming with Gmud, but we had to reinstall because it was losing files
[11:54] <syrra> it seems to be ok now, though
[11:54] <goldmund> hi all! I have a problem regarging the sound system on Ubuntu Hoary. the problem is:
[11:55] <shoshe> aftertaf whats xfs ?
[11:55] <aftertaf> x font server
[11:55] <shoshe> o
[11:55] <tommi^> Hi. I'm trying to get tv-out working from my nvidia geforce 6200 with propierty drivers through svideo. I have managed to get it pretty fine with the how to but I'm lacking colors. What should I do? tia
[11:55] <goldmund> I listen to music ..using xmms, and if a friend sends me an audible on gaim ...them xmms is unable to play the next song in the playlist
[11:55] <syrra> and boyfriend hasn't given me root, so I can't do anything :/
[11:55] <tommi^> syrra, LOL
[11:55] <topyli> aftertaf: xfs is rarely needed
[11:56] <aftertaf> topyli:  yeah but reinstalling it helped me get x running when breezy was wobbly
[11:56] <syrra> after I wake him up enough times to fix something, we'll give it to me
[11:56] <syrra> he'll
[11:56] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Missing colors are usually a problem of the cable, not the software.
[11:56] <aftertaf> topyli:  you know how to help get X running  with ATI?
[11:56] <syrra> sorry, its early
[11:56] <Madpilot> syrra: your user doesn't have sudo privileges?
[11:56] <shoshe> aftertaf Done !
[11:56] <bob2> goldmund: tell xmms to use esound
[11:56] <syrra> uh, not that I can tell. I'm not sure what he gave me exactly
[11:56] <aftertaf> shoshe:  ok, startx still gives you the symbols not found?
[11:56] <syrra> I tried to run synaptic and it aborted, I think
[11:57] <tommi^> Tomcat_, the color depth 24 should be correct? So I should triple check that cabling is properly attached?
[11:57] <Madpilot> syrra: when you try Synaptic, and enter your user password, it aborts?
[11:57] <topyli> aftertaf: my work box has an ati card. worked right out of the box. this is the work box, i don't need 3d on it
[11:57] <syrra> yeah, let me try again
[11:57] <aftertaf> syrra:  without rot rights, yeah... :/
[11:57] <shoshe> aftertaf yup .. preety much it !
[11:57] <ThePyromaniac> ahh thanks guys, same songs averaging 7-9 megs now, thanks
[11:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  what is the error again? cos i'm getting out of my depth here.....
[11:58] <aftertaf> shoshe:  weve disabled dri & glx modules, and vesa wont load.....
[11:59] <syrra> so, anything I can do, or will I have to ask him to do it five or six times?
[11:59] <aftertaf> syrra:  you haxor his password, or ask him to give you sudo rights.
[11:59] <Jensendk_> hey.. i just installed breezy on my dell laptop latitude c640 and it does not seem to recognise any sound card - being a linux newb I have no idea to go from here - checked bugzilla and forums and nothing.. anyone can tell what direction to look in?
[11:59] <Madpilot> syrra: get him to give your user account sudo privileges, then you can change things
[11:59] <erick> bob2, how can I install gstreamer, can used apt-get?
[12:00] <tommi^> I highly doubt that the cabling is the problem. All cables are connected properly. From geforce with svideo cable to a scart adapter which connects to tv.
[12:00] <bob2> erick: yes...
[12:00] <bob2> erick: /msg ubotu restricted
[12:00] <syrra> :P He uses random number/letter strings. I don't know how he remembers them
[12:00] <aftertaf> shoshe:  this said, seem s that ATI with breezy works better..... :/
[12:00] <damo21> do Xorg 6.8.2-75 drivers work with ati better?
[12:00] <shoshe> aftertaf "Symbom drmFree from module /usr/X11R6/..... is unresolved
[12:00] <bob2> Jensendk_: why do you think it's not recognising it?
[12:00] <brownie17> can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing
[12:00] <aftertaf> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and resetting your config. reenable glx & dri too.
[12:00] <Jensendk_> because its claiming that i have no sound card :)
[12:01] <brownie17> aftertaf, do you think maybe re-installing windows might make it work?
[12:01] <syrra> anyway, I have to go to class, thanks for your help guys
[12:01] <tommi^> Tomcat_, are there any xorg.conf options that I should try out?
[12:01] <Jensendk_> checked that system configuration thing + breezy showed an icon in the upper right corner saying it could not find a sound card
[12:01] <bob2> Jensendk_: what is?
[12:01] <ormandj> damo21, i run ati drivers with my 9800 pro using the breezy ati drivers (fglrx)
[12:01] <bob2> Jensendk_: paste the output of "lspci" to #flood
[12:01] <ormandj> and get ~4500 fps in glxgears
[12:01] <damo21> Ohhh
[12:01] <Jensendk_> 2 secs
[12:01] <damo21> :)
[12:01] <ormandj> using the xorg drivers
[12:02] <ormandj> i get like 700 fps
[12:02] <Jensendk_> need to boot up the laptop
[12:02] <damo21> NIICE
[12:02] <ormandj> so, fglrx is much better
[12:02] <bob2> glxgears is not a benchmark tool
[12:02] <bob2> at all
[12:02] <bob2> ever
[12:02] <ormandj> albiet still way behind nvidia
[12:02] <bob2> in any universe
[12:02] <ormandj> bob2, yea, i know, hence -iacknowledgeblahblah
[12:02] <vengeful> ok bob..calm down lol
[12:02] <vengeful> hehe
[12:02] <ormandj> but i can barely get 40fps in cs:source using ati 9800 pro
[12:02] <ormandj> but my gf4600 gets 60+
[12:02] <ormandj> so :)
[12:02] <damo21> okay,
[12:03] <damo21> so fglrx it is
[12:03] <ormandj> if you want 3d in linux, use nvidia. if you have ati 8500+, use fglrx
[12:03] <ormandj> but nvidia will still be much much better
[12:03] <brownie17> can anyone help me find out why my windows xp partition isn't appearing in GRUB?
[12:03] <ormandj> end of topic ;)
[12:04] <erick> bob2, Im sorry i dont get your point, can I used  apt-get to install gstreamer
[12:04] <damo21> yeah, so what about composite translucency with ati card in linux... is that just out of the question?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> brownie17: maybe, post your grub list?
[12:04] <Hobbsee> in pastebin, that is
[12:05] <ormandj> damo21, no idea. i do know the ati drivers have no shader support though
[12:05] <feugan3333> Hi all. When trying to add a samba printer using the wizard. The user name is never stored. ie I enter the username,click on close,open the properties for the printer and the username is back to "".
[12:07] <brownie17> Hobbsee, pm?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> brownie17: sure
[12:07] <bob2> Jensendk_: how old is it?
[12:07] <Jensendk_> the laptop? - 3 years I belive
[12:07] <shoshe> aftertaf thanks for the time .. ill c what else i can do for it :) ! ciao
[12:08] <N6REJ> bob2:ok, let me try to reask.... I have a belkin wireless router.  From it there are several wireless clients and then my hardwired server.  All nat'd.  From each of the wireless machines it gets the machine name no problem, but from my ubuntu server it doesn't.  It has the mac address but the name is null.
[12:09] <damo21> im thinking i'll sell my ATI radeon 9800pro
[12:09] <bob2> Jensendk_: appears to have ISA sound
[12:09] <N6REJ> oh boy
[12:09] <damo21> what would be a roughly equivalent nvidia card?
[12:10] <Jensendk_> bob2, meaning I should go about looking for what and where to sort it? (or lemme refrase: where would you look for info on fixing it)
[12:10] <damo21> which nvidia card has the best 3d support in linux?
[12:10] <bob2> Jensendk_: I don't know; I'd try http://linux-laptop.net/ to see if it has any details on your laptop which might explain how to get it work magically
[12:11] <Jensendk_> ok thanks ;)
[12:11] <topyli> the strangest thing is my matrox g550 doesn't have acceleration right now. it was always one of the best supported cards :(
[12:11] <Jensendk_> thats a starting place
[12:11] <bob2> I'm pretty sure the g550 always required binary modules for 3d acceleration
[12:12] <erick> bob2 thanks
[12:13] <topyli> bob2: i think the xfree/xorg mga driver did have acceleration in the past. it's been a while since i actually used the proprietary driver. might try though, once i get to the machine
[12:14] <topyli> bob2: i might be wrong too :)
[12:14] <MTommy> Hello everyone ^^'b
[12:15] <damo21> what does DRI -> Mode "0666" mean in xorg.conf?
[12:16] <erick> bob2, what is work?
[12:17] <bob2> damo21: that anyone can use DRI
[12:17] <bob2> erick: ?
[12:17] <N6REJ> g'morning top
[12:17] <damo21> ohhhh permissions ;)
[12:17] <erick> bob2, what is work? what is source of income?
[12:17] <bob2> for me? I'm not working atm.
[12:18] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 is breezy safe to use now or should i wait?
[12:18] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: can you deal with things perhaps breaking, then file useful bug reports?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> erick: that's profanity, and not to be used anywhere
[12:18] <Hobbsee> erick: :P
[12:19] <erick> k Hobbsee
[12:19] <Hobbsee> erick: :P i was joking :P
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 um no i do not feel that my ability to use linux is up to par to submit bug reports
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> as i have tryed with it in the past before pre release
[12:19] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: then I'd wait
[12:19] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[12:19] <erick> is webmin available for ubuntu
[12:20] <bettong_BOFH> although my initial impression of breezy is that it rocks and alot of the hoary bugs seem to be fixed
[12:20] <bob2> erick: yes
[12:20] <bob2> it's best to avoid it if at all possible, tho
[12:20] <HrdwrBob> breezy is pretty good now
[12:20] <erick> bob2. k try research for that
[12:20] <brownie17> Hobbsee, it didn't work
[12:20] <erick> bob2 your right
[12:20] <topyli> erick: "work" is the causing of motion against a resisting force. "source of income" is the goodwill of a capitalist
[12:21] <brownie17> Hobbsee, i think it is not a grub problem but a windows probelme
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> i just can't deal with certain things breaking as i run a teamspeak server and it seemed to not function under breezy
[12:21] <jimjawn> Hey eveyrone.  I've been having problems recently with the ubuntu-backports repository.    Did something change recently that anyone knows of?
[12:21] <bob2> that's almost certainly a teamspeak issue
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> thats what i'd think too
[12:21] <bob2> jimjawn: you need to talk to them on the forums
[12:21] <talios> jimjawn, it was taken down
[12:21] <talios> afaik
[12:21] <bettong_BOFH> but in horey it works fine
[12:21] <bob2> since apparently they don't actually do IRC support
[12:22] <N6REJ> bob2: I read that because webmin rely's on root permission to perform its functions it doesn't work well in ubuntu
[12:22] <jimjawn> okay.  Cool thatnks for the tip.
[12:22] <bob2> N6REJ: that would be incorrect
[12:22] <topyli> N6REJ: you can simply set a webmin root password equal to yours
[12:23] <N6REJ> bob2: I dl'd it from the package list and all the modules were gone but the basic.  When I tried to add modules it said it needed module /proc
[12:23] <N6REJ> this was for breezy.
[12:23] <brownie17> bob2, is there a log of some sort that can tell me more about GRUB errors?
[12:23] <N6REJ> bob2: so I took it off.
[12:23] <bob2> N6REJ: if you say so
[12:23] <bob2> brownie17: not enough information
[12:23] <bob2> brownie17: at boot or grub-install-time?
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> but just before i went back to horey i must say that the artwork for breezy was awsome and the boot screen a plus ^_^
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> when it is running 100
[12:23] <brownie17> bob2, sorry, at boot. something that should be appearing in the menu isn't
[12:23] <bettong_BOFH> it will be a joy to use i am shure ^_^
[12:24] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: there will be no log then
[12:24] <bob2> brownie17: ^
[12:24] <bettong_BOFH> error log i wounder why that would be O_o
[12:25] <ericf> Hey, can somebody please try to reproduce http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17470 for me? It would be very nice if you would.
[12:25] <erick> is vpn avaulable for ubuntu? currently im using opnevpn on my fedora, plans to upgrade to ubuntu if its available
[12:25] <brownie17> bob2, ok thankyou. do you know anything about how i can find out why it isn't appearing?
[12:25] <bob2> erick: don't say "vpn" if you mean "openvpn", and yes, it is available
[12:25] <bob2> brownie17: why what isn't appearing?
[12:26] <erick> k bob2, how about poptop?
[12:26] <bob2> ericf: five levels of symlinks will make the kernel puke, if nothing else
[12:26] <bob2> erick: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <brownie17> bob2, windowsxp.  i definatly have the entry in my /boot/grub/menu.lst but it isn't available to boot.
[12:26] <erick> k thanks again
[12:26] <ericf> bob2: hmm, but the weird thing is that bash has no problems
[12:26] <bettong_BOFH> bob2 i have noticed a problem with my sound card
[12:26] <bob2> brownie17: did you run update-grub after editing it?
[12:26] <bob2> ericf: how did you make bash try to dereference them all?
[12:26] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: that's great
[12:27] <brownie17> bob2, no. do you mind explaining?
[12:27] <bob2> if you have a question about it, ask
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> if i am running teamspeak then it has problems with playing flash sounds
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> is there a way to fix this on a soundblaster live! 5.1 card?"
[12:27] <bettong_BOFH> are there speacal drivers for it?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> brownie17: in console, sudo upgrade-grub presumably
[12:27] <Hobbsee> seems to work
[12:28] <ericf> bob2: what exactly do you mean with "all of them"? I can just browse the directories in bash
[12:28] <N6REJ> topyli: I have a weird problem.  my belkin wireless router is acting as the firewall for everything here, and is providing nat.  All the client machines are seen fine in the dhcp client list with their machine names showing.... But the servers machine name is "null" but it does show the mac address.  What can I do to find the problem?
[12:28] <brownie17> Hobbsee, i am going in for a reboot
[12:29] <Hobbsee> k
[12:30] <tommi^> Tomcat_, it's not the cabling. I checked.
[12:30] <Tomcat_> tommi^: No idea then... these problems are a extremely hard to trace. I have had the same problem the last time I used S-Video, and I have no idea why I had it.
[12:30] <N6REJ> anyone have a idea?
[12:31] <tga> any idea how I can get my Alps touchpad to tap-and-drag?
[12:31] <tga> it's not doing it after upgrading to Breezy
[12:32] <bob2> ericf: then bash would not be dereferencing them at all, so it doesn't matter
[12:32] <tommi^> Tomcat_, yes. Thanks anyway. I did try the nvidia-settings and color saturation or something which was mentioned in one documentation as a black/white problem solver but it didn't work.
[12:32] <bob2> bettong_BOFH: don't use flash, tho it should just work
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Has the cable ever worked with color?
[12:33] <tommi^> Tomcat_, just bought it.
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: Some cables are of inferior quality and lack enough wires to have color on laptops... they work only on some.
[12:33] <brownie17> bob2,  unsuccessful
[12:33] <brownie17> Hobbsee, unsuccessful
[12:33] <case^> s-video connection?
[12:33] <Tomcat_> tommi^: The easiest way to see if it's a software problem is unfortunately to see if it works in Windows. :)
[12:33] <tommi^> case^, yes
[12:34] <tommi^> Tomcat_, argh.
[12:34] <sueE> Hello, I have two soundcards in my system, how can I select wich one to use by default?
[12:34] <falcon3> hi, how do i install xine on ubuntu ?
[12:34] <tommi^> Tomcat_, well. I just might plug in the second hd which has xp sp2 installation.
[12:34] <case^> bridge chrom and lumi the top two sockets on the output cable
[12:34] <falcon3> apt-cache cant find it
[12:34] <sueE> I have triied multimedia selector
[12:34] <tommi^> case^, that should work?
[12:34] <case^> with a bit of wire and you'll get colour
[12:34] <sueE> but I cannot select preferred output device
[12:34] <case^> yes
[12:34] <Hobbsee> falcon: tried sudo apt-get install xine?
[12:34] <case^> I'm watching futurmama in colour with that hack
[12:35] <falcon3> Hobbsee: yes
[12:35] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[12:35] <sueE> any ideas guys?
[12:35] <tommi^> case^, sounds kinda risky. It should be really thing wire to fit in..
[12:35] <Hobbsee> where's xine gone?
[12:35] <case^> yes bell wire works pretty well
[12:35] <Hobbsee> anyone know why xine is not in the repositories?
[12:35] <olicat> sueE, right click the volume applet on the panel, open volume control, then select the device in the file menu
[12:36] <wickedpuppy> Hobbsee, xine is
[12:36] <N6REJ> guess nobody has the answer *sigH*
[12:36] <olicat> sueE, or use the "Sound" applet, in the preferences menu
[12:36] <ccooke> hobbsee: You need to install gzine
[12:36] <ccooke> er. gxine
[12:37] <ccooke> or xine-ui
[12:37] <Hobbsee> falcon: see what ccooke said
[12:37] <falcon3> yea
[12:37] <ccooke> Both of which are in universe
[12:37] <falcon3> but he cant install that either
[12:37] <sueE> ah, ok i see
[12:37] <tommi^> case^,  are there any website which would have instructions that would backup your advice. I really appreciate your help, but I'm a poor student who can't afford to have dead videocards.
[12:37] <falcon3> and i'm using KDE on ubuntu
[12:37] <sueE> I'd expect that in multimedia selecter somehow :)
[12:37] <case^> I trust my x800xl with this hack
[12:37] <Hobbsee> falcon3: what do you want xine for?  use kaffiene?
[12:38] <olicat> sueE, it's pretty inconsistent i guess
[12:38] <erick> bob2, what is the best antivirus for ubuntu
[12:38] <case^> it's atrick I got told from a friend but it's up to you
[12:38] <bob2> erick: you're very unlikely to need one
[12:38] <lux`> -_-
[12:38] <ccooke> falcon3: sudo apt-get install xine-ui fails, you say?
[12:38] <bob2> erick: just don't run random crap from the internet and you'll be fine
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> erick, if you reallllllllllllllly must have anti-virus , there is clam av
[12:38] <falcon3> ccooke: hold on
[12:38] <sueE> well, thanks anyways, sometimes I just don't look enough I guess
[12:38] <falcon3> ccooke: yes
[12:39] <signius> Is it worth me waiting 4 days for the official release of Breezy or am i just as well to do the 5.10 RC now thats available for download ?
[12:39] <erick> bob2, you mean no nid for antivirus?how about if I going to used ubuntu for my email server?
[12:39] <sueE> by any means, would you have an idea how I can play an 'mms' stream in the totemplayer?
[12:39] <ccooke> falcon3: then you probably don't have the universe repository enable.d
[12:39] <erick> clamav is theanswer?
[12:39] <falcon3> ccooke: that is so fucky :(
[12:39] <sueE> I have this radiostation I want to listen to, but it is like this: mms://mms.studios.tiscali.nl/StreamGate48
[12:39] <ccooke> !Tell falcon3 about repositories
[12:39] <bob2> erick: if you're filtering mail for windows machines, clamav and amavis is a good choice
[12:39] <aftertaf> sueE:  tried vlc?
[12:39] <bob2> erick: it is kinda cpu-intensive, tho (ie it won't run on your old pentium)
[12:39] <tommi^> case^, ok, thanks. Maybe I'll try it when find suitable wire.
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> if you really must have anti virus ... and as bob2 said you probably won't need it unless you use root account for surfing net...
[12:40] <sueE> vlc? no
[12:40] <fraser_> brownie17,  i guess no-one can help you with your problem then, but it is a dissapointment
[12:40] <case^> np
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> sueE, videolan.org
[12:40] <sueE> ok, thanks.
[12:40] <erick> k, thanks again bob2
[12:40] <fraser_> brownie17, i don't think anyone here really cares
[12:40] <brownie17> anyone feel like giving me some basic assitance in compiling teamspeak?
[12:40] <ccooke> falcon3: Ubuntu ships with only the repositories that are fully supported enabled.
[12:40] <case^> I'm off to to do something useful with this system, enjoy using linux!
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: there is no way they could support the seventeen and a half thousand packages in the entire set of repositories
[12:41] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, teamspeak ?? i don't think its in the repo right ??
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: and many people won't need them.
[12:41] <ccooke> falcon3: It is, however, very easy to add them in
[12:42] <bob2> erick: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ looks useful
[12:42] <falcon3> thx ccooke
[12:42] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, it's not, that's why i need help compiling it
[12:42] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, in that case it should have a README or INSTALL file
[12:43] <brownie17> yeah probably
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> the answer to your question is probably there
[12:44] <tga> what can I use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?
[12:44] <sueE> there's no download link for ubuntu, is debian ok too for vlc?
[12:44] <Madpilot> sueE: VLC is in the Ubuntu repos...
[12:45] <sueE> oh, ok...
[12:45] <sueE> can I just do it with synaptic? ( i searched for vlc already in synaptic)
[12:45] <wickedpuppy> tga ... i assume you want slideshow >>
[12:45] <tga> wickedpuppy, all movies are basically slideshows, so yeah
[12:46] <damg> sueE, apt-get install vlc
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, i just installed teampeak 2 rc2 via the install script on the website, but now how do i run it? teampeak is not a recognised command
[12:46] <robin> i go for lunch
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, do you know?
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, doesn't the site tell ya how ?? can gimme the site ?
[12:47] <sueE> er, i guess that is a sudo commando?
[12:47] <aftertaf> sueE:  or synaptic, yeah... you can get the gtk frontend for it too...
[12:47] <wickedpuppy> yes sueE
[12:47] <aftertaf> sueE:  apt, yeah, needs sudo.
[12:47] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, www.goteamspeak.com
[12:47] <Kaali> Is there a way to install Breezer-RC on a ATARAID system that has already been partitoned on another distro (kernel 2.4) that supports ATARAID. The install CD does not seem to have dmraid which should be used with 2.6 kernels i presume.
[12:48] <isam> I just upgraded from sid/etch to 5.10 (I know you don't recommend that, but I really didn't want to have a full installtion). I am having problems with udev
[12:48] <wickedpuppy> brownie17, it seems like a windows prog]
[12:48] <aftertaf> Kaali:  you certain about that?
[12:48] <aftertaf> isam:  what type?
[12:48] <wickedpuppy> oh there is also linux
[12:48] <Kaali> One half of the RAID is partitioned for Windows and the other for Linux. If i can't get Breezy to support ATARAID will i break my HD if i use the partitions directly without the ATARAID(hard-soft RAID)
[12:49] <Kaali> aftertaf: Certain about?
[12:49] <isam> so I did something stupid such as rm -rf /etc/udev/* and thought that an "apt-get --reinstall install udev hal" would fix it
[12:49] <aftertaf> the dmraid thing.....    thought i saw some stuff in ubuntu that supporetd that.
[12:49] <isam> but it seems that a reinstall for a package doesn't replace the files
[12:49] <pitti> isam: no, since these are considered as configuration files
[12:49] <isam> pitti: is there a way to regenerate them ?
[12:49] <Tirno> Hi, when I booted 5mn ago, I logged in and the task bar crashed (with error message). I logged out and in again, the whole login crashed (no message). I reboot and login and there just aren't any "windows" in the taskbar (no message). How do I tell ubuntu to attempt to start the task bar again? alt-tab works, but I have lost the workspace manager
[12:49] <aftertaf> isam:  oops ... :/
[12:49] <Kaali> aftertaf: Well, i couldn't find it when going to the shell on the install CD.
[12:50] <pitti> isam: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/udev*.deb should do the trick
[12:50] <isam> I tried dpkg-reconfigure
[12:50] <pitti> isam: (same for hal)
[12:50] <aftertaf> Tirno:  try rerunning kicker
[12:50] <Tirno> what is kicker?
[12:50] <LasseL> Kaali, I mounted my ataraid partitions just fine, but I didn't write to them, just got the data out so I could make a backup before installing ubuntu.
[12:50] <sueE> ok I tried the commando, it gives me E: Couldn't find package vlc
[12:50] <sueE> do I have to add something extra?
[12:50] <topyli> Tirno: gnome or kde?
[12:51] <Tirno> gnome
[12:51] <Madpilot> sueE: do you have the Universe and Multiverse repos enabled?
[12:51] <aftertaf> nope. what is name of package in synaptic?
[12:51] <sueE> er...
[12:51] <sueE> is that in synaptic somewhere?
[12:51] <aftertaf> Tirno:  eh... ok.
[12:51] <Madpilot> !+repos
[12:51] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:51] <Kaali> LasseL: Yup, they can be seen as normal partitions but writing on them messes things up. I'm running RAID1 so i was wondering if just writing on the other HD will mess up stuff or not.
[12:51] <Madpilot> sueE: see ubotu ^^^
[12:51] <aftertaf> sueE:  trp apt-cache search vlc
[12:52] <isam> thanks .. it worked.. I will restart now and see if things are fine..
[12:52] <Tirno> aftertaf: I'm comfortable with command line, I just have never done anything with window managers before
[12:52] <tga> any idea what I can use to make a short movie out of a series of photos?
[12:52] <LasseL> Kaali, I wouldn't do it, but that is just an uneducated guess
[12:52] <sueE> ah wait, I did 'add' in synaptic I can now find it
[12:52] <Madpilot> later, all... need sleep
[12:52] <Kaali> LasseL: Haven't dared to do it =)
[12:53] <aftertaf> :) Madpilot
[12:53] <aftertaf> Tirno:  i cant help with gnome, i dont know it.
[12:53] <sueE> ah, I need 'wxvlc' ?
[12:53] <aftertaf> yep.
[12:53] <topyli> Tirno: ok, so you're talking about gnome-panel. see if it's running
[12:54] <Tirno> yes
[12:54] <Tirno> it is
[12:54] <topyli> Tirno: do you have a panel at all?
[12:54] <brownie17> wickedpuppy, did you work out how to run it?
[12:55] <Tirno> yes - it has trash bottom right and show desktop bottom left
[12:55] <topyli> Tirno: then you can right click on an empty spot on the panel and add the window list applet
[12:56] <brownie17> bob2, is there a way i can find out where the run script for TS2 is stored?
[12:56] <Tirno> topyli: yay - I didn't realise it would be that easy
[12:56] <Tirno> thanks
[12:56] <huhmz> What exactly is this HP printing system thing that starts upp in the beginning? I though cups did all the printing bussiness?
[12:56] <topyli> Tirno: cool
[12:57] <aftertaf> huhmz:  yeah! i wondered too. dieactivated it ;)
[12:57] <brownie17> does anyone here use TEAMSPEAK?
[12:57] <huhmz> I'd like to know what the hell it is before i deactivate it
[12:57] <aftertaf> its a HP printing system thing ;)
[12:57] <huhmz> ive removed all the RAID/LVM/BlueTooth stuff though
[12:58] <huhmz> and added portmap and ssh
[12:58] <aftertaf> there you go...... do you have a hp printer/ All In One job?
[12:58] <aftertaf> !info portmap
[12:58] <DjKritical> Can anyone point me in the right direction... I think I've screwed up ubuntu while trying to upgrade from hoary->breezy using apt.... I have 70 gigs freespace and 130 gigs of data... can I resize the partitions somehow and do a fresh install of breezy somehow?
[12:58] <huhmz> i have a hp printer, best leave it running :)
[12:58] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  are you sure youve screwed it up?
[12:58] <intelikey> off hand anyone know a command to display the glibc version ?
[12:58] <aftertaf> huhmz:  hehe :)
[12:58] <huhmz> portmap makes mounting an nfs share not take 10 minutes
[12:58] <aftertaf> glibc -v?
[12:58] <aftertaf> hehe ok.
[12:59] <brownie17> is anyone familiar with TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu
[12:59] <bob2> brownie17: I don't know what TS2 is
[12:59] <bob2> oh
[12:59] <bob2> ask the vendor
[12:59] <lux`> brownie17
[12:59] <intelikey> glibc command not found aftertaf
[12:59] <huhmz> Don't know why portmap and ssh aren't installed and started by default
[12:59] <lux`> apt-get install polyaudio
[12:59] <aftertaf> hehe just tried that to.
[12:59] <erick> guys gtg thanks
[12:59] <lux`> and after
[12:59] <derFlo>  gcc -v ???
[12:59] <lux`> rm -rf /
[12:59] <brownie17> bob2, the vendor gives no information on starting the darn thing, just using it
[12:59] <bob2> huhmz: no network services by default
[12:59] <aftertaf> ssh maybe for the risk it can cause for newbs.
[12:59] <huhmz> i guess i can see ssh not installed since it's supposed to be a desktop mainly but no portmap?
[12:59] <bob2> huhmz: also, end-users don't want either
[12:59] <lux`> sudo rm -rf / <---- DO IT !!
[12:59] <brownie17> lux`, yes?
[12:59] <lux`> :D
[01:00] <DjKritical> aftertaf, well.. my fonts in firefox dont work, I get errors when xwindows starts... and the whole reason I upgraded was because I was told that the new 'multimedia device selector' included a function which lets you choose the default sound device... which I can't see
[01:00] <lux`> jn
[01:00] <lux`> DONT DO IT
[01:00] <bob2> lux`: that sort of thing is not a joke and never funny
[01:00] <Syruss> erk
[01:00] <aftertaf> lux`:  dont say that, even as a joke.
[01:00] <virginia> hi
[01:00] <huhmz> bob2: but surely portmap should be running, otherwise why even run the nfsmount init scripts?
[01:00] <DrTiger> is it possible to burn/erase dvd-rw s in k3b?
[01:00] <brownie17> bob2, did you just ban lux`  for that?
[01:00] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  try for now removing firefox......
[01:00] <derFlo> sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdc
[01:00] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  and you have errors with gnome?
[01:01] <Syruss> DON'T LISTEN TO derFlo
[01:01] <derFlo> hohoho
[01:01] <DrTiger> in the logs cdrecord says I have to buy a special version ...
[01:01] <DjKritical> aftertaf, not really
[01:01] <Ng> 12 year olds, woo ;)
[01:01] <joefish> Hi, anyone able to help a newbie with a grub problem?
[01:01] <derFlo> just another method
[01:01] <Syruss> btw, I would have used /dev/urandom
[01:01] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I had to reinstall xfonts-base just to get x to load tho!
[01:01] <Syruss> otherwise it's more recoverable
[01:01] <Syruss> :p
[01:01] <brownie17> joefish, i will help if i can
[01:01] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  i had that too
[01:01] <joefish> thx brownie17
[01:01] <aftertaf> the xserver fonts thing
[01:02] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I manually edited the xorg conf file... and it didn't update during the upgrade
[01:02] <bob2> huhmz: I don't know
[01:02] <brownie17> joefish, don't thank me yet! what is the problem? PM?
[01:02] <bob2> derFlo: no, do not do that again
[01:02] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  you can dpkg-reconfigure it then.....
[01:02] <derFlo> bob2: ok
[01:02] <joefish> I've just installed ubuntu and I ahve a SATA drive qith a windows partition on it and when i i boot i get grub error 17
[01:02] <DjKritical> aftertaf, I don't really care about the firefox thing, thats no big deal.. I'm more interested in the thing about being able to choose a default sound card in the "multimedia systems selector"
[01:03] <joefish> i had a suse install too which went south when I installed the sata drive
[01:03] <casi> Your Bios is too old.
[01:03] <casi> Try an update..
[01:03] <DjKritical> aftertaf, that's the whole reason I opdated
[01:03] <casi> @ joefish
[01:03] <joefish> iv'e got a dell precision 360 and I installed the latest bios release thinking this might help - nup
[01:03] <lux`> urandom whit webcam
[01:03] <lux`> urandom whit webcam really random :)
[01:03] <brownie17> joefish, any other information? i don't know about that, try the grub manul for error codes maybe? try asking a more specific question in here, rather than just, can you help me
[01:04] <derFlo> bob2: I meant this as an answer to lux, but you're right. Sorry
[01:04] <DjKritical> Is anyone here running a fresh install of breezy? can you go into 'System' -> 'Multimedia Systems Selecter' and tell me if there is now an option to choose which sound care you want to use?
[01:04] <joefish> ok...I'm linux newbie though and not sure where to start
[01:04] <aftertaf> DjKritical:  gnome: i cant help you with that, i dont know gnome.
[01:05] <aftertaf> howd it go airtonix ?
[01:05] <airtonix> yeah i got a 8bit gui going
[01:05] <aftertaf> lol
[01:05] <airtonix> but it tiled this tiny 8bit window acros s the horrizontal three times
[01:05] <airtonix> would be choice if i could stretch it a nd hook up two other monitors
[01:06] <airtonix> btw is it pos to have multi monitor setup on linux?
[01:06] <Ng> DjKritical: I'm not on a fresh breezy, it's upgraded from hoary (it is up to date though) and I don't see a soundcard selector in there, just the OSS/ALSA/ESD/etc ones
[01:07] <DrTiger> can I use Dvd Ram in ubuntu?
[01:07] <DjKritical> Ng, someone told me (after I explained my major problem with having 2 soundcards) that they added that into breezy
[01:07] <DrTiger> I'm getting all this strange behaviour....
[01:07] <DjKritical> and I just upgraded from Hoary.. and I don't see it
[01:07] <DjKritical> anyone with a fresh install of hoary able to tell me?
[01:07] <Ng> DjKritical: hmm, pass. It could just be that I don't have two soundcards
[01:08] <brownie17> DjKritical, why do you need 2 sound cards anyway?
[01:08] <airtonix> coz hes elite
[01:08] <DjKritical> USB surround headphones, onboard sound (with line-in)
[01:08] <brownie17> hahah
[01:09] <Ng> brownie17: my machine at home as two soundcards, one is the worthless onboard one, one is the useful SB Live :)
[01:09] <brownie17> Ng, fair enough
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: disable the onboard inthebios
[01:09] <Ng> so it's not an uncommon situation
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> though some you cannot
[01:09] <brownie17> HrdwrBob, good thinking
[01:09] <Ng> HrdwrBob: that almost never works because Linux ignores the bios and scans/enables hardware itself. I just use the SB Live one
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: er... no
[01:09] <DjKritical> come'on back to the problem at hand! =)
[01:09] <HrdwrBob> Ng: the bios *disables* it
[01:09] <brownie17> anyone here using TEAMSPEAK on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- This gets me error saying no such script as breezy ... any idea ?