[09:15] <j80063r> I have tried it on 2 systems, including a desktop with live usb
[09:15] <Ben64> j80063r: then guess what? bad sd card
[09:15] <j80063r> but the same thing would happen with any other drive, I'm certain of it
[09:15] <Ben64> well you're incorrect
[09:16] <meganerd> HelperW_: you would configure a different user for each "vhost", and simply set that user's home directory to be the webroot for that vhost.
[09:16] <j80063r> you haven't even tried it
[09:16] <Ben64> actually i did
[09:16] <meganerd> j80063r: is this an sd card?
[09:16] <Ben64> installed onto a vm, dd'd away successfully
[09:16] <HelperW_> That should be indeed the good setup.
[09:16] <j80063r> yes micro sd 64 GB
[09:16] <meganerd> j80063r: do you have the write protect switch turned on?
[09:16] <j80063r> there is no switch on micro sd's
[09:16] <j80063r> but I have tried it in an adaptor with the switch off
[09:18] <meganerd> j80063r: I have wiped countless SD/mSD/usb/sdd/ssd disk in this manner.  Just about every common-ish partition type, file system, and encryption scheme
[09:18] <j80063r> so have I but never with LUKS
[09:19] <meganerd> j80063r: I have done LUKS a lot (since I use it on my laptops)
[09:19] <j80063r> it did delete the partitions but creating a partition table brought them back
[09:19] <HelperW_> Thanks for your help meganerd
[09:19] <meganerd> HelperW_: you are welcome
[09:20] <meganerd> HelperW_: always nice to help a fellow canuck
[09:20] <j80063r> so I'm trying ddrescue again, then maybe I'll try windows to create a partition
[09:20] <Ben64> ddrescue isn't magic, luks isn't magic. you have a broken sd card. why don't you want to believe
[09:21] <meganerd> j80063r: just run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=</path/to/sd/device> count=8192 ; sync"
[09:22] <Ben64> for 7 hours this has been going nowhere. the sd card is toast
[09:22] <eldawg> Ben64: what is the issue?
[09:22] <HelperW_> meganerd:  are you used working on webprojects?
[09:22] <Ben64> eldawg: partitons on a sd card won't delete
[09:22] <meganerd> HelperW_: my day job is spent with C# devs and IIS
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: personally I am pretty much all FLOSS
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: lots of internet services, some happen to use web servers
[09:23] <ObrienDave> eldawg, LUKS full disk encrypted partitions won't delete
[09:23] <eldawg> even with gparted? - is the drive unmounted? general starting questoins
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: my background is sysadmin /operations / networks
[09:24] <HelperW_> awesome. :)
[09:24] <j80063r> ben64 - why don't I believe the card is bad?  because only installing linux with LUKS made it write protected and the FAT16 partition still works, ddrescue wrote to all blocks, and the system still asks for a password when I try to mount it.
[09:24] <meganerd> j80063r: neither dd nor ddrescue care about partitions or file systems
[09:24] <Ben64> j80063r: right, because dd isn't writing to the card, because IT IS BROKEN
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: what device name are you writing to?
[09:25] <eldawg> trash the sd card and get a new one
[09:25] <eldawg> problem solved
[09:25] <j80063r> right now, gparted shows 58.91 GB of unallocated space
[09:25] <j80063r> sdb
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: that does not sound right for an sd card
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: should be /dev/mmcbl0 or some such
[09:25] <j80063r> but when I choose 'create partition table" they come back
[09:26] <Ben64> can be sdx from being in a usb->sd adapter
[09:26] <meganerd> j80063r: sudo fdisk -l
[09:26] <meganerd> Ben64: good point
[09:26] <eldawg> just trash the damn thing and buy another one
[09:26] <meganerd> j80063r: post the results
[09:26] <eldawg> what thats $20? cmon
[09:26] <Ben64> eldawg: thats what i've been saying
[09:26] <eldawg> Bun64 good man
[09:26] <eldawg> Ben64 good man*
[09:26] <meganerd> +1
[09:27] <j80063r> Disk /dev/sdb: 63.2 GB doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:28] <ObrienDave> j80063r, now make it GPT
[09:28] <j80063r> how? fdisk?
[09:28] <ObrienDave> gparted should do
[09:28] <ObrienDave> i think, tired :)
[09:29] <meganerd> j80063r: or gfdisk
[09:29] <meganerd> j80063r: erm gdisk
[09:29] <meganerd> way too tired.
[09:34] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i have a 32GB micro SD in an adapter. it mounts as /dev/mmcblk0p2
[09:34] <j80063r> OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sdb   Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table, the new table will be used at the next reboot,   The operation has completed successfully.
[09:34] <j80063r> rebooting it now
[09:35] <DCrex> Hello all!
[09:35] <ObrienDave> DCrex, welcome
[09:35] <DCrex> Thank you Dave. btw, my name is also Dave
[09:36] <ObrienDave> j80063r, also LUKS encrypted
[09:36] <DCrex> It's nice to see that irc is still very much alive.
[09:36] <j80063r> ok, I'll check for other /dev's
[09:41] <j80063r> seems to be mounted as only /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdb5
[09:41] <eldawg> wasting hours of time on a broken sd card isn't a good use of your time
[09:41] <eldawg> maybe it is
[09:41] <justinnn> how to remove software
[09:42] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i can't remember the password either LMAO
[09:42] <mbs1> i am on ubuntu 14.04 and wasnt able to add this ppa :ppa:neon/kf5
[09:42] <mbs1> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/07/how-to-install-plasma-5-in-kubuntu-1410.html
[09:43] <ObrienDave> mbs1, remove the leading :
[09:43] <Ben64> mbs1: 14.10 support in #ubuntu+1 and PPAs aren't supported here or #ubuntu+1 so you're kinda on your own there
[09:44] <mbs1> ObrienDave: sorry that was a typo.  i did it without leading :
[09:45] <ObrienDave> k
[09:46] <ObrienDave> mbs1, like Ben64 said, you're on your own.. https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[09:47] <mbs1> Ben64: I am on ubuntu 14.04
[09:47] <function9> mbsl: #kubuntu :)
[09:49] <ServerSage> mbs1: While you are running 14.04, the PPA you are trying to add is a 14.10 PPA.
[09:50] <bipul> How to authenticate SVN user, using (file://) direct repository access (on local disk)
[09:50] <mbs1> ServerSage, ohhhh thanks i didnt realise that
[09:50] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i moved the 32G micro sd to a USB reader and mine mounts as sdd1 and sdd2 (LUKS)
[09:51] <ServerSage> mbs1: No problem.
[09:51] <dongel> which is the best and most active ubuntu forum?
[09:51] <ofdm> In which file do I change the GTK theme? I use lubuntu lxde/openbox
[09:51] <ObrienDave> dongel, you're in it :))
[09:52] <mbs1> ServerSage: could you please tell me which ppa shuld i use if i want to install kde5
[09:52] <dongel> well I am looking for a non-IRC one, a normal forum
[09:52] <cfhowlett> dongel www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:52] <ObrienDave> don't know
[09:53] <ServerSage> mbs1: Sorry, no idea.
[09:53] <dongel> ty
[09:54] <k1l> dongel: or see on askubuntu.com
[09:54] <noitam> Any ideas how I could run a command within a desktop file (Exec=vim -c "startinsert" "xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD"/"date +%%y%%m%%d-%%H%%M%%S"-note.md)? Last part - where I want to create the file name - isn't working.
[09:55] <noitam> Tried with ''' and '`' too.
[09:56] <Ben64> noitam: make it a script instead of the desktop file
[09:56] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i just now deleted both the LUKS and fat32 partitions from uSD card with Xubuntu's disks utility. ejected and remounted, no more LUKS. took all of 15 seconds to do
[09:56] <dongel> i need open id for ubuntu?
[09:57] <noitam> Ben64, good idea. So I could create a script in ~/bin and call this one in the desktop file.
[09:57] <Ben64> noitam: yeah that should work
[09:57] <HelperW_> meganerd: are you used working with GIT?
[09:57] <j80063r> ok, I now suppose that LUKS is what made it go bad, but I'm still trying to see if I can crack it with luks_crack
[09:57] <meganerd> HelperW_: for my personal stuff, daily
[09:57] <j80063r> in windows
[09:57] <Ben64> j80063r: luks didn't make the sd card bad
[09:58] <cfhowlett> dongel you don't "need" ANY id for ubuntu
[09:58] <HelperW_> I am trying to push a project to my webserver.
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: at work I set up a TFS server and now migrating to visualstudio online
[09:58] <dongel> cfhowlett, i meant ubuntuforums
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: usually I do a git pull to get code
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: that way you can specify the branch (like head, dev, test etc.)
[09:58] <HelperW_> yes but don't I have to setup first where to 'pull it from' ?
[09:59] <WXZ> I need a wav player that will show .cue lines
[09:59] <HelperW_> What I did : local : git init, git add .  , git commit -m  "first commit"
[09:59] <HelperW_> What I did : server : git init
[09:59] <meganerd> HelperW_: yup.  Initialize an empty directory, then git clone it to your dev box and web server
[09:59] <HelperW_> where to grab that url from to clone
[10:00] <meganerd> HelperW_: you only need init the first time, from every other box you use "git clone <url>, where url could be read only http or rw via ssh
[10:00] <ObrienDave> noitam, don't you have too many % in there?
[10:00] <HelperW_> hmm
[10:00] <HelperW_> yes indeed, but where can I find that url?
[10:00] <meganerd> HelperW_: so for ssh that would be "git clone user@host:/path/to/repo"
[10:01] <marcules> hmm - what do I have to install to get tab-completion on remote systems (when I have a key) - like in rsync me@remote-host:~/[TAB][TAB]
[10:01] <HelperW_> so the server needs to fetch it from my local computer first.
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: if the repository is in the user's home folder: "git clone user@host:tracked_folder"
[10:01] <noitam> ObrienDave, no. That's the way it's escaped. Because % has another meaning in desktop files.
[10:01] <HelperW_> I have no idea how to grab the host for my own computer
[10:01] <HelperW_> is that my ip?
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: if your local computer is acting as the git server
[10:01] <HelperW_> no my computer is not the git server
[10:01] <ObrienDave> noitam, ok, was not sure, thanks
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: could be IP
[10:02] <HelperW_> My computer has a project wich I would like to push to the server.
[10:02] <HelperW_> (local server)
[10:02] <meganerd> HelperW_: think of git as a pull mechanism
[10:02] <HelperW_> wich is a fysical webserver a few rooms away from here :P (just to make it clear)
[10:02] <meganerd> you commit push code to a repository, then on the server pull from that repository
[10:03] <HelperW_> When I try to do locally a git push :
[10:03] <HelperW_> Either specify the URL from the command-line or configure a remote repository using
[10:03] <meganerd> HelperW_: where did you do the git init?
[10:03] <HelperW_>     git remote add <name> <url>
[10:03] <HelperW_> Local project on my personal computer.
[10:04] <meganerd> HelperW_: then from the server "git clone user@IP:folder"
[10:04] <TJ-> HelperW_: The target of the push must have previously created the repo you're pushing to
[10:04] <sokoll> Can anyone helps me with this question > http://serverfault.com/questions/613285/setting-up-additional-breadcrumb-re-direct-using-mod-rewrite
[10:06] <noitam> Works. Desktop file: 'Exec=sh -c "~/bin/vim-note"'. Script: "vim -c 'startinsert' `xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD`/`date +"%y%m%d-%H%M%S"`-notiz.md".
[10:06] <noitam> Thanks, Ben64.
[10:06] <HelperW_> git clone username@<IP_ADDRESS>:User/myname/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/2014/LearningLaravel/LaravelVideoRating/
[10:06] <HelperW_> likethat?
[10:06] <TJ-> sokoll: That's a more appropriate question for #httpd
[10:07] <meganerd> HelperW_: I am going to grab a couple of hours of sleep.  I stayed up way too late (got a second internet connection and have been playing with routing as well as a second IPv6 tunnel)
[10:07] <HelperW_> Oh :D nice
[10:07] <sokoll> TJ-: I've asked on there but noone is responding to me :(
[10:07] <HelperW_>  Enjoy your nap!
[10:08] <HelperW_> And thanks for all the helpfull information.
[10:08] <meganerd> HelperW_: awesome documentation at: http://git-scm.com/book, though I actually bought the ebook (and videos) from orielly.
[10:08] <TJ-> sokoll: That is really where the mod_rewrite experts will be :)
[10:08] <HelperW_> thanks! :) I know that site aswell :D
[10:08] <sokoll> TJ-: I know, I was just trying to see if anyone can help here
[10:11] <TJ-> sokoll: How about a similar rule before the existing rule, to match the longer path?
[10:12] <sokoll> TJ-: so just add
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site
[10:12] <sokoll> oops
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site
[10:12] <sokoll> I mean above
[10:12] <sokoll> ?
[10:12] <TJ-> sokoll: no, you're not matching on the longer path
[10:12] <sokoll> What do you mean?
[10:13] <sokoll> What would I add as an example?
[10:14] <TJ-> sokoll: Your question is about mod_rewrite but you're using mod_alias to do the Redirect
[10:15] <TJ-> sokoll: "The Redirect directive maps an old URL into a new one" - so insert another Redirect before the existing one, that matches on the old-URL longer path
[10:15] <sokoll> Ok, but can you type an example of how you would do that?
[10:15] <sokoll> So I'm clear on what you mean
[10:16] <TJ-> sokoll: Read the docs... if you're doing this kind of admin, *you* need to learn it:  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect
[10:16] <sokoll> I have read the docs but I struggle to understand them, so thats why I'm asking. I learn better that way
[10:17] <noitam> Does anyone know how I can call vim and toggle an option at the same time? I will run ":AutoSaveToggle" (is a vim plugin) on startup.
[10:17] <noitam> But I don't want it in the vimrc file
[10:17] <TJ-> sokoll: Do you understand what the current rule doesn?
[10:19] <TJ-> noitam: "man vim" "/^OPTIONS" and then "/\{command"
[10:19] <sokoll> Not really :(
[10:19] <sokoll> the mods for apache are pretty complicated
[10:19] <TJ-> sokoll: This is what I mean about needing to understand it
[10:19] <TJ-> sokoll: break the line down based on the docs
[10:20] <noitam> Oh, I've already used the option. "-c".
[10:20] <noitam> Thx, TJ-.
[10:22] <TJ-> sokoll: Look at the doc "Syntax" line. Think like this: Each parameter is separate by spaces, the comand is parameter #1 so "Redirect", then an optional "[status]" (the square brackets indicate it is optional) so "permanent", then the requested URL, so you have the root "/" then the destination host+URL, where you have "http://www.website.org/site"
[10:23] <TJ-> sokoll: So, now you want another similar rule that matches on the requested "/site/site" path. With 2 rules, their order might be significant. If the "/" rule is matched and acted upon before the server tests the "/site/site" rule, the "/site/site" rule would never get used, so it makes sense to put it *before* rules matching on shorter paths
[10:27] <Brace> I have an issue with one user (other users on the same PC are fine) where by regardless of the PC they login to, Unity shows up with no icons in the menu bar and most programs won't start up
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Brace test this with by logging into the geust account
[10:28] <Brace> have tried resetting unity, removing the relevant .config/compiz files and a few other things
[10:28] <Brace> cfhowlett: other users can login to the PC fine
[10:28] <TJ-> Brace: sounds like a per-profile user config issue... is this a roaming profile?
[10:28] <Brace> it's a LDAP/Kerberos setup with about 20 users and NFS homedirs
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Brace not what I was asking.  do the icons and menus display as normal in the guest account.
[10:29] <Brace> cfhowlett: what difference would the guest account make?
[10:30] <Brace> TJ-: yes, I think is a user specific profile error, I'm just trying to figure out how to reset the profile (which I assume is a dotfile in the home dir somewhere?)
[10:30] <lemonsparrow> if [ "$OSTYPE" = "darwin11" ];  how to rewrite this line for any value that starts with darwin ?
[10:30] <lemonsparrow> darwin11 darwin12 all should work
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Brace verification/rejection of per user profile as TJ suggested
[10:32] <TJ-> Brace: the fastest way would be to create a new clean dummy profile, and then 'diff' the "$HOME/.config/" against the 'bad' one, for clues
[10:32] <Brace> cfhowlett: yes the guest session works fine
[10:33] <Brace> cfhowlett: as do other users on the machine
[10:33] <Brace> TJ-: what's the best way to create a 'dummy' profile?
[10:33] <TJ-> Brace: also, might need to look at "$HOME/.{dconf/gconf}" - I've not touched Unity for a while now so I can't be more specific
[10:33] <Brace> or could i just compare it with a working one?
[10:33] <TJ-> Brace: Just create a new profile... dummy as in you'll delete it afterwards
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: A working profile might have other customisations that would mislead you
[10:34] <Brace> by profile, you really mean user right?
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: what you want is the standard, default profile that is created before the user gets to mess it up
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: Yes
[10:34] <Brace> gotcha
[10:35] <Brace> ok, I'll give that a whirl, thanks for the pointer
[10:35] <colonolGron> hello, is anybody in here running ubuntu on a macbook retina? i would like to know if it works and whether it needs tweaking?
[10:35] <ikonia> colonolGron: I've run it
[10:35] <ikonia> there are pros/cons to it
[10:35] <colonolGron> ikonia: great :) finally someone with first hands experience. whats the cons?
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: the retina display / font scaling, the broadcom card is "questionable" in terms of it's support/stability under linux,
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: thunderbolt is basically "not at all"
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: the UEFI implementation is not standard.
[10:37] <ikonia> colonolGron: that's pretty much the bottom line of the cons
[10:37] <cfhowlett> ikonia any idea why all this seems to work on the MacBook Air?
[10:37] <ikonia> cfhowlett: different hardware
[10:37] <colonolGron> ikonia: did the broadcom card didnt work often?
[10:37] <geirha> puh, glad I kept OSX on my retina then; with Ubuntu in a vbox, of course
[10:37] <ikonia> cfhowlett: although thunderbolt works on the mac book air ?
[10:38] <ign> http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/01/install-osx-mavericks-on-pc-with-niresh.html
[10:38] <colonolGron> ikonia: and what does the different UEFI implementation mean for me as a user?
[10:38] <ikonia> colonolGron: it's not black/white work/not work, it's things like reduced signal power
[10:38] <sokoll> TJ-: Sorry for the delay in the reply
[10:38] <colonolGron> ikonia: i see
[10:39] <sokoll> That makes sense, so what I said before would be to do this: http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe
[10:39] <colonolGron> ikonia: but does the installation process differ? i mean do i have to do anything special? configuring something?
[10:39] <ikonia> colonolGron: so....that is subjective
[10:39] <sokoll> TJ-: That makes sense, so what I said before would be to do this: http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe
[10:40] <sokoll> TJ-: right?
[10:40] <colonolGron> ikonia: can you explain a little? what "additional" work compared to installation on a standard laptop?
[10:40] <TJ-> sokoll: wrong
[10:40] <ikonia> colonolGron: I had to put in a lot of effort to get it booting natively from EFI, and couldn't get it fully intergrated (one of the tests I was running)
[10:40] <ikonia> colonolGron: however if you use things like refit it's pretty standard
[10:40] <sokoll> Ok :( this is why I need to visually see what you mean
[10:40] <TJ-> sokoll: So, now you want another similar rule that matches on the requested "/site/site" path. With 2 rules, their order might be significant. If the "/" rule is matched and acted upon before the server tests the "/site/site" rule, the "/site/site" rule would never get used, so it makes sense to put it *before* rules matching on shorter paths
[10:41] <colonolGron> ikonia: i heard refit is old. i installed refind. so its just like installing refind and then it will know about ubuntu after installation?
[10:41] <ikonia> colonolGron: there is also an ubuntu-mac install DVD which is support to be prepped for installing on a mac, I've not tried this
[10:41] <sokoll> TJ-: can you just type it out and show me? I am visual person and it really helps to see it.
[10:41] <TJ-> sokoll: In the docs, you need to focus on the Syntax line and its "URL-path" parameter
[10:41] <ikonia> colonolGron: sorry you're correct I meant refind, old wordig with refit
[10:41] <TJ-> sokoll: No, I'm deliberately not doing that because you need to understand how to read this stuff... being given it on a plate is not going to help you
[10:42] <sokoll> TJ-: it's not giving it to me on a plate, I learn better by seeing examples. When I learned to play drums, I could never follow music without being shown first, as soon as someone showed me once how to do it, I found it much easier to follow and understand the music. I'm not being lazy.
[10:42] <TJ-> sokoll: Think about it: You have *two* different incoming request paths (URL-path) you wish to match, and act on, by sending them off to different "URL" destinations
[10:43] <noiano> hello
[10:43] <TJ-> sokoll: You've got an example already in your existing command and the docs, modify that example to match the "URL-path" of the request for "/site/site"
[10:43] <andlabs|2> Hi again; continuing from last night, I upgraded and it installed new upstart and xgb-utils. Now KDE tries to boot again... and immediately crashes. Fortunately, it does leave some garbage in .xession-errors...
[10:44] <colonolGron> ikonia: so its just installing refind, and then installing ubuntu, no special configuration needed, correct?
[10:44] <andlabs|2> http://sprunge.us/WiIP - what's going on now? Thanks.
[10:44] <ikonia> colonolGron: I've just stated the issues,
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: i mean, then i solved the different efi implementiation "issue"
[10:45] <andlabs|2> xfce session also crashes immediately
[10:45] <sokoll> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/YCLrei1g
[10:45] <ikonia> colonolGron: refind removes efi as an issue
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: retina isnt a big problem for me i guess. tried the scaling in a vbox
[10:45] <andlabs|2> but leaves nothing in .xsession-errors
[10:45] <andlabs|2> unless this .xsession-errors isn't related?
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: so there is the broadcom hardware as an issue left if i am correct
[10:46] <ikonia> yes
[10:46] <andlabs|2> ok never mind forget I said anything
[10:46] <andlabs|2> .xsession-errors was bogus ^^
[10:46] <ikonia> you may also have to monkey around with xorg to get your gestures working,
[10:46] <TJ-> sokoll: almost, but the command syntax specifies only one URL-path URL pair per statement. You were almost there with your previous pastebin... you just need to correct the "URL-path" parameter
[10:46] <colonolGron> great, thanks ikonia
[10:46] <Brace> I guess a rather hammer like approach would be just to backup and remove the whole .config and let it be recreated, see if that works
[10:47] <sokoll> TJ-: The redirective instructions don't make sense to me. I have a hard time understanding technical documentation
[10:47] <andlabs|2> also I just tried wiping .kde and that didn't fix it
[10:48] <sokoll> TJ-: redirect directive*
[10:48] <andlabs|2> so I don't think that's the issue...
[10:48] <colonolGron> but i suppose noone in here know the difference between 64-bit and "64-bit mac (amd64)" iso download?
[10:48] <ikonia> colonolGron: I told you that earlier
[10:48] <ikonia> colonolGron: was is designed to be installed on the mac, the other is standard
[10:49] <andlabs|2> so I'll just start over
[10:49] <colonolGron> ikonia: you also said you didnt try it out. but it is supposed to have better hardware support or whats the difference exactly?
[10:49] <ikonia> colonolGron: it can't have better hardware support - as it's the same base product
[10:49] <andlabs|2> Hi. After installing updates last night and this morning, I can't log into any session other than the 'GNOME Classic' session: I can log in, then a few seconds later X11 crashes and takes me back to the login screen. How can I a) figure out what's going on and b) fix it? Thanks.
[10:50] <ikonia> colonolGron: it's just got things like awareness of the mac platform configured in the installer
[10:50] <colonolGron> ikonia: i dont know what that means "awareness of the mac platfrom"
[10:50] <colonolGron> ikonia: i am downloading it right now, maybe i'll see
[10:51] <TJ-> sokoll: The syntax of a Redirect command is "Redirect [status] URL-path URL" ... you get to change status URL-path and URL to your own values. There is one Redirect per line per required redirect, as you did in http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe ... the only thing you didn't do in that change was to set the "URL-path" to "/site/site"
[10:51] <ObrienDave> a mac has different hardware (platform) than a PC
[10:51] <colonolGron> ObrienDave: like what? i thought the new macbooks are pretty standard?
[10:52] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know, i don't do macs
[10:52] <TJ-> andlabs|2: Create a new user account and find out if that is affected too. If not, it is likely caused by some per-user custom configuration issue
[10:52] <cfhowlett> colonolGron "standard" for Apple, yes.  Standard for "PC"s?  nope.
[10:52] <andlabs|2> how would I create a new user account from the command line in Ubuntu?
[10:52] <andlabs|2> I can never remember all the different ways I've learned ^^
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !adduser | andlabs|2
[10:53] <sokoll> TJ-: Right, and what you just said doesn't explain it any more to me, what I sent you in http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe is how I understand what you said. I thought I was setting to the URL path to /site/site by adding it in the first re-direct line BEFORE the redirect line with just /site/
[10:53] <colonolGron> cfhowlett: i thought they use normal stuff now, now powerpc stuff anymore, so i wonde what should be different
[10:53] <andlabs|2> yes, that helps when I can't get an X session running (and I'm not going to risk breaking th eone that does work)
[10:54] <ObrienDave> a mac is a mac and is NOT a PC
[10:54] <TJ-> colonolGron: Most Linux code is developed for "IBM PC compatible/Industry Standard architecture" systems. Apple has done certain things another way, and because they don't support Linux, that means some things won't work or have to be modified to have a standard Linux distro installation on some Apple hardware
[10:54] <neo1691> I am having some problem with firefox 30 on ubuntu 12.04, it is loading github.com without the css. the site loads correctly on chrome. Any help
[10:54] <colonolGron> ObrienDave: that didnt help me much :/ sorry
[10:54] <colonolGron> TJ-: i see, thanks
[10:54] <_Rocky_> neo1691: Do you have any developer addons?
[10:55] <_Rocky_> neo1691: like web developer tools?
[10:55] <ObrienDave> no getting snarky cfhowlett ;P
[10:55] <andlabs|2> ok
[10:55] <andlabs|2> I just tried a guest session
[10:55] <andlabs|2> and... KDE works
[10:55] <andlabs|2> :S
[10:55] <TJ-> sokoll: Yes, you changed the destination "URL" but you did *not* change the *request* URL-path that comes in - the one you want the rule to match
[10:55] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave wait, what?  did I snark?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, that was a pre-emptive snark ;P
[10:56] <TJ-> andlabs|2: I thought so - looking at the error log I think I saw hints of non-standard plugins/add-ons that might be the culprit
[10:56] <sokoll> TJ-: I dont understand why you can't show me. I appreciate what you're trying to do but this isn't helping me, I need to SEE things to then read back on the instructions so I can understand and relate the two
[10:56]  * cfhowlett bites tongue to restrain overwhelming urge to snark ... must ... resist ... urrrrrrrrr
[10:56] <neo1691> _Rocky_ I can install
[10:56] <ObrienDave> lol
[10:57] <neo1691> tell  me which one
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: Which parameter of "Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site" is the URL-path ?
[10:57] <sokoll> TJ-:  the URL??
[10:57] <_Rocky_> neo1691: No. You dont need to. The point I was trying to make was, you might have some add on that is disabling CSS
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: No. Look at the doc again, the Syntax shows you have "Redirect [status] URL-path URL"
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: So, which of your parameters is the "URL-path" ?
[10:58] <neo1691> I am using pendytcl for vim
[10:58] <neo1691> apart from that nothing
[10:58] <neo1691> and  dta
[10:58] <neo1691> downthemall
[10:59] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect      [status]      URL-path      URL"
[10:59] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll:  which is easier to read if you do:
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent       /                   http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:00] <ObrienDave> sokoll, notice the spaces in the command syntax?
[11:00] <sokoll> That's what I put!
[11:00] <sokoll> Yes, there are spaces
[11:00] <sokoll> there is no URL path in the syntax
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll: Yes it is... and now you need to *change* "URL-path" to be the request path you want to redirect
[11:01] <ObrienDave> sokoll, *hint* the URL-path is the single /
[11:01] <TJ-> sokoll: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect
[11:01] <andlabs|2> whoops, accidentally rebooted
[11:01] <andlabs|2> all right, so the guest session works, so that means something is wrong with my local config
[11:01] <sokoll> Yes, I'm ready the documentation. I always read the documentation before I ask questions, then I ask if they don't make sense to me.
[11:01] <sokoll> reading*
[11:01] <andlabs|2> and because multiple DEs are crashing like this... what global X11 configuration is there?
[11:01] <TJ-> sokoll: You've currently got *two* Redirect rules both looking to match on the URL-path of "/" ... one of those needs to change to "/site/site"
[11:01] <ObrienDave> \o/ andlabs|2
[11:01] <sokoll> The '/' reads as the [status] to me.
[11:02] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent       /site/site                   http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:02] <sokoll> Which is why the documentation is confusing.
[11:02] <TJ-> sokoll: No, status is "permanent" - every parameter is separated by one or more spaces
[11:02] <sokoll> Right
[11:02] <ObrienDave> sokoll, in order, [status] is permanent
[11:03] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect        [status]=permanent         URL-path=/site/site         URL=http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:03] <sokoll> right
[11:03] <sokoll> the URL-Path bit is not clear at all
[11:03] <sokoll> I understand now
[11:03] <TJ-> sokoll: And as I said earlier, that line needs to be before the Redirect that matches on URL-path "/" otherwise it may never get read by the server
[11:03] <sokoll> but looking at the documentation, it's not clear to me
[11:04] <sokoll> TJ-: thank you.
[11:04] <ObrienDave> you'll get it eventually :)
[11:05] <WXZ> I need an audio player that can show cue markers
[11:05] <TJ-> sokoll: Thank goodness you weren't really needing to work on mod_rewrite rules!
[11:05] <WXZ> preferably you can press "back to last cue" or something similar
[11:05] <TJ-> sokoll: They scare even the professionals at times :)
[11:06] <sokoll> TJ-: I am a professional... lol. I'm an IT sys admin
[11:06] <sokoll> I've only been doing this for 3 months though.. before it was all windows admin
[11:06] <TJ-> o.O
[11:07] <sokoll> now I'm almost entirely linux
[11:07]  * Capprentice is away: I'm busy
[11:07] <sokoll> so most of this is brand new to me
[11:07] <noitam> Is there a way to open Nautilus in the foreground when I call it from the terminal?
[11:07] <TJ-> sokoll: I've always found apache's documentation to be about the best... you definitely need to practice your parsing of it if you find it difficult to fathom
[11:07] <noitam> "nautilus" opens Nautilus window in the background.
[11:08] <andlabs|2> different question: is there a way to exit lightdm so I can see the error messages hiding behind it? from the syststem bootup; there's more errors there
[11:08] <andlabs|2> no, dmesg does not show these
[11:08] <sokoll> definitely
[11:08] <Capprentice> noitam, I think nautilus -d runs nautilus as daemon ?!
[11:08] <sokoll> TJ-: well, thank you for your help
[11:08] <sokoll> TJ-: it is highly appreciated
[11:09] <noitam> Capprentice, what do you mean?
[11:10] <ObrienDave> noitam, that is a windows manager "focus" setting, iirc
[11:10] <eeee> noitam: type nautilus -w
[11:10] <eeee> it'll open a new window
[11:11] <noitam> eeee, does not work.
[11:11] <eeee> what do you mean? it's not what you want or .. ?
[11:11] <noitam> I can switch of "Focus stealing prevention" in CCSM. But should I do this? It's "Low" by default.
[11:12] <TJ-> noitam: How about "nautilus && xdotool search --name nautilus windowraise" ?
[11:12] <andlabs|2> meh, I'll come back later; will rest a bit longer first; thanks in the meantime for all the help
[11:12] <JediMaster> *sigh* the same day that ubuntu releases critical MySQL security updates then an hour later release the bombshell that 13.10 is no longer supported, and therefore only 12.04 and 14.04 get the fix =/
[11:12] <dusf123> if i run windows 8.1 reset/refresh will it remove ubuntu?
[11:13] <TJ-> JediMaster: where is the bombshell? That has been well-known for over 12 months
[11:13] <cfhowlett> dusf123 no but it will write over grub so you willl not be able to BOOT ubuntu.   reinstall grub will fix IIRC
[11:13] <noitam> TJ-, not working.
[11:14] <dusf123> cfhowlett: i am setting up dual boot on a friend's laptop. i use clonezilla for my own but i would like a more user friendly way to restore windows 8.1 and ubuntu on my friend's laptop
[11:14] <TJ-> noitam: "not working" is not a useful description
[11:14] <dusf123> can you recommend something?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> JediMaster no bombshell detected.  13.10 's support dates are well known and publicized
[11:14] <JediMaster> TJ-, I was fully awear that the support was running out for 13.10, unfortunately I had assumed it was timed to be on the same day as the 14.04.1 LTS release next week
[11:15] <cfhowlett> dusf123 best I step away - no experience with UEFI or windows 8.*
[11:15] <mikedeep> hello everyone...
[11:15] <noitam> TJ-, Nautilus still opens in the background.
[11:15] <dusf123> cfhowlett: okay no problem. are you certain both refresh and reset on windows 8.1 will overwrite grub?
[11:15] <dusf123> that is refresh and reset are the different options
[11:15] <mikedeep> need to know if i can install ubuntu on hp 15 p001tx
[11:15] <mikedeep> will it give heating issues/?
[11:16] <TJ-> JediMaster: The policy is generally that support continues on a non-LTS for ~3 months after the next release.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> dusf123 certain?  nope.  still running win7 in my dualboot
[11:16] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, umm, 13.10 is still a supported version
[11:16] <dusf123> cfhowlett: i migth just do a quick dual boot and try the different options
[11:16] <TJ-> noitam: So you have got "xdotool" installed?
[11:16] <claudemir> teste
[11:16] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, not for security updates and fixes
[11:16] <noitam> TJ-, yes.
[11:16] <claudemir> test
[11:16] <dusf123> i am encouraging him to use ubuntu all of the time but i need to leave windows there in case he cannot run something on linux, or if there's a problem with linux he can just use windows etc
[11:16] <claudemir> good morning!
[11:17] <dusf123> at the same time i would like him to be able to easily restore both OS
[11:17] <cfhowlett> dusf123 virtualbox ...
[11:17] <dusf123> yes, and wine
[11:17] <dusf123> but believe me, both are much too complicated for him
[11:17] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, oh, it has been 9 months, *face palm* my mistake
[11:17] <k1l> ObrienDave: not since yesterday.
[11:17] <TJ-> noitam: Is that the only nautilus process? It could be because it doesn't know which nautilus process to raise, or it could be that Unity just doesn't obey the XDG conventions and API
[11:17] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, got the email yesterday =( "Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) End of Life reached on July 17 2014"
[11:17] <claudemir> have a tutorial how to install latex on ubuntu?
[11:17]  * cfhowlett @ ObrienDave "must not snark.  must not ..."
[11:18] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, yeah heh
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !info latex
[11:18] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, PFFFFFFFT!!!
[11:18] <claudemir> no??
[11:18] <eeee> noitam: you could nautilus -q && nautilus& , but that would close nautilus if you close the terminal
[11:18] <jonnydamnnox> hey JO
[11:18] <claudemir> synaptic??
[11:18] <noitam> TJ-, no other Nautilus windows are opened. But could you say if it's problematic to disable Focus Stealing Prevention mode in CCSM? That would fix my problem.
[11:18] <jonnydamnnox> I can't change the title dessctiption of an pdf file which is not writable, how can I change the file to writable?
[11:19] <noitam> But I don't know if I create new problems in the future.
[11:19]  * ObrienDave is way too tired and has had NOT enough coffee ;P
[11:19] <TJ-> noitam: I don't know if that is required by Unity... test it and see :)
[11:19] <JediMaster> does anyone know about the attack vector on this MySQL vulnerability release yesterday? (http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2291-1/)
[11:19] <noitam> TJ-, I will give it a try. Thanks.
[11:19] <mikedeep> hello can i install ubuntu on hp 15 p001tx without any heating issues?
[11:19] <eeee> noitam: if you use that command it will close nautilus windows that are open
[11:20] <eeee> before opening a new one
[11:20] <JediMaster> As far as I can see from Oracle they say it requires an "authenticated user", technically someone searching for something on a website using MySQL uses an authenticated user
[11:20] <TJ-> JediMaster: According to the CVE reports, Oracle haven't been forthcoming as to the exact vulnerability
[11:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, yes, that's what I had found
[11:20] <jonnydamnnox> how can I change rw-r-rr of a file to rw-rw-r ??
[11:20] <noitam> eeee, that's not a good choice in my view.
[11:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, however they highly recommend updating ASAP
[11:20] <jonnydamnnox> I need to change the title of a pdf file
[11:21] <JediMaster> TJ-, which sucks as I have about 30 servers to upgrade to 14.04 before I can get the fix
[11:21] <noitam> eeee, I disable Focus Stealing Prevention option. Should work.
[11:21] <JediMaster> I guess I'll be staying on 14.04 LTS for a long time
[11:21] <TJ-> JediMaster: Thank Oracle for being so into the F/OSS spirit :)
[11:22] <TJ-> JediMaster: servers should be on an LTS anyhow :)
[11:22] <cfhowlett> jonnydamnnox save a copy of the file, set permissions and rename.  done.
[11:22] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, i know i've had enough of the 6 month cycle, staying with LTS for the time being
[11:22] <eeee> noitam: ok
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !server|JediMaster
[11:23] <JediMaster> cfhowlett, this *is* ubuntu 13.10 server
[11:23] <cfhowlett> JediMaster I was gently suggesting you consult the #ubuntu-server channel.  :)
[11:23] <ObrienDave> without being snarky ;P
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave snark?  me?  perish the thought!
[11:24] <ObrienDave> rofl
[11:24] <JediMaster> cfhowlett, pretty sure MySQL is installable on the non-server install too =) but yes, I'll ask there too
[11:25] <TJ-> JediMaster: if you want stave off upgrading the servers immediately, I suppose you could create a minimal LXC container or chroot for Trusty mysql ;p
[11:25] <jonnydamnnox> oh well
[11:25] <jonnydamnnox> How can I change the freaking title desctiption of a pdf file??
[11:26] <JediMaster> TJ-, probably as much hassle as doing the upgrade, if not more, but good idea
[11:26] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i must admit you have curbed your normal snarkyness :))
[11:26] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: Presumably you'd need a PDF editor?
[11:26] <ObrienDave> jonnydamnnox, who owns the PDF? root?
[11:27] <jonnydamnnox> I use adobe reader, I don't know how owns it
[11:27] <jonnydamnnox> ah me
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> user
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> group and own
[11:28] <ObrienDave> right click the file, select properties, permissions tab
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> A guy sent me this file, I guess from a window machine
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> I can't change that
[11:28] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: You want to change the file-name, or the document title stored internally? If the latter, you'll need some PDF editor
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> the title internally
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> hhm
[11:29] <ObrienDave> because you're using adobe reader to view it.
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> can you suggest a good editor??
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> ok wait, I use the internet ^^
[11:30] <ObrienDave> LibreOffice Write can edit it, i think
[11:31] <maxvi> how can I view .plt file?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave nope.  writer will not edit .pdf
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  what's a .plt file?
[11:33] <ObrienDave> maxvi, is that a plotter file?
[11:34] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, writer imports the PDF but is pretty bad at the embedded fonts
[11:36] <Zumo> Hi!
[11:36] <maxvi> ObrienDave: yes
[11:36] <maxvi> ObrienDave: that is a plotter file
[11:37] <ObrienDave> maxvi, you need something that will read HPGL ascii
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> Ahh worked with libre office
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> GEEE
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> THX
[11:38] <maxvi> ObrienDave: I want to open this file like dxf to see the lines may be I can convert plt to dxf with some ubuntu package
[11:39] <jonnydamnnox> But, something else changed
[11:39] <jonnydamnnox> GRR
[11:39] <ObrienDave> maxvi, not sure but you might try hp2xx in the repos
[11:40] <colonolGlon> hi guys, flashed a usb drive with the ubuntu mac image
[11:40] <colonolGlon> but the boot process hangs at the point where i see a violet screen and the keyboard and person and the bottom
[11:40] <fidel_> sorry - but what is the "ubuntu mac image" ?
[11:40] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: You might try master pdf editor: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/master-pdf-editor/
[11:41] <colonolGlon> fidel_: the http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop there is a 64 bit mac image to download ;)
[11:41] <jonnydamnnox> yes but I can't download master pdf editor via synaptics software center
[11:42] <fidel_> colonolGlon: the one which you should use if the x86 didnt work?
[11:42] <wolf__> soft in synaptic is too old
[11:42] <joe-w-bimedina> how can I change the delay of the bottom "hot corner"   that opens the notification area in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome 3
[11:42] <jonnydamnnox> hm
[11:42] <colonolGlon> ikonia: did it hang at that point for you too?
[11:42] <wolf__> just open official web
[11:42] <colonolGlon> fidel_: so i should have tried the other first?...
[11:42] <jonnydamnnox> well ok
[11:43] <colonolGlon> people in here told me the mac is a different platform so a different iso is available too..
[11:43] <fidel_> colonolGlon: if its an intel mac-  i would personaly try first the normal x86 image yes - but havent messed around for a long time with linux on macs
[11:43] <ObrienDave> wolf__, ROFL packages in synaptic come from the same repos as software center
[11:43] <colonolGlon> fidel_: okay, i'll try the other one
[11:43] <fidel_> colonolGlon: apart from that - if you see a purple screen - that means that the image was at least properly copied to the usb-device - otherwise it couldnt start booting from it
[11:43] <eeee> colonolGlon: did you checksum ?
[11:44] <colonolGlon> eeee: i didnt
[11:44] <wolf__> I have installed mpdf from official web
[11:44] <colonolGlon> i just followed the description on the page
[11:44] <eeee> first things first, checksum..
[11:44] <fidel_> my guess: boot parameters - but try it with the x86 release first
[11:45]  * ObrienDave @ cfhowlett, must. not, snark.
[11:45] <eeee> fidel_: not true, he could have missing part of the image and still install the OS, and end up with a "lemon OS" that doesn't work and has missing libs etc.
[11:46] <fidel_> eeee: true - your checksum argument is valid. still the boot process at least started - which means what itold above ..right? ;)
[11:46] <ObrienDave> colonolGlon, checksum is 99.999999% guaranteed to be the best way to check the D/L
[11:47] <colonolGlon> i see
[11:47] <eeee> fidel_: just cause it boots it doesn't mean it isn't missing a file or too and its hanging cause of it..
[11:47] <fidel_> eeee: i know that
[11:47] <eeee> colonolGlon: if you want just run the integrity check on the live usb
[11:47] <fidel_> and i agreed already
[11:48] <eeee> fidel_: you mean to say, the image he has was properly copied, but could be a damaged image ?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> wolf__ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> YEA worked, master pdf editor is really a master I guess
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> awkward installation but ok
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> thx and byebye
[11:50] <fidel_> eeee: i was focusing on that part of the process where some users might already make mistakes while trying to create a bootable usb-stick. but - feel free to continue arguing - i am not ;)
[11:50] <wolf__> hi cfhowlett
[11:51] <eeee> fidel_: i'm not arguing at all, just clarifying...
[11:51] <wolf__> I think masterpdf is the best
[11:51] <wolf__> at least for me
[11:54] <cfhowlett> wolf work with what works for you.
[11:56] <DdevNull> can sumone help me with ratpoison?
[12:00] <wolf__> http://www.wiznote.com/download/
[12:00] <Brace> TJ-: I ended up backing up and removing .gconf and .config and letting Ubuntu recreate them and it's an improvement, but still after 10-15 minutes or so (just this user and on any PC) it all locks up
[12:01] <TJ-> Brace: Do they have plugins or some auto-run processes?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Brace (obvious question perhaps) what is different about this user?  Hardware?  software or ^^^
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Brace also: verify that your user hasn't installed some weird ***t
[12:02] <TJ-> cfhowlett: This is a roaming profile across multiple PCs. All other profiles operate correctly, as does a Guest login. There's something in the user's profile causing unity to misbehave, which a --reset hasn't fixed.
[12:02] <Brace> cfhowlett: they don't have access to sudo, so can't have done that
[12:03] <Brace> cfhowlett: we don't use anything that 'weird' but we do use some old software eg gv and stuff like that
[12:04] <Brace> however it's certainly worth looking to see if there's anything odd on the machine from that pov
[12:04] <TJ-> Brace: the fact that you improved the situation by removing .{gconf,conf} shows it is something they've done
[12:04] <Brace> TJ-: possibly
[12:05] <Brace> TJ-: the other thing is that the homedirs are pretty crufty these days, there's a lot of dotfiles and crud in them
[12:06] <TJ-> Brace: I agree, bain of my life
[12:06] <TJ-> Brace: I noticed there's a ".local/share/unity-webapps"
[12:08] <Brace> TJ-: I'm seriously thinking about just taking all the user data out of the homedir and clearing it out
[12:08] <Brace> see if that helps
[12:09] <TJ-> Brace: have you checked "~/.xsession-errors" ?
[12:09] <cyber37_> Hi guy's ! I need a big help ! my wifi is BROKEN, but he works with a LIVE CD !
[12:09] <cyber37_> I cant see the wlan0 interface
[12:10] <cyber37_> I don't see the interface in ifconfig, and cant do ifconfig wlan0 up
[12:10] <cyber37_> wlan0: ERREUR en récupérant les signaux de l'interface: Aucun périphérique de ce type
[12:11] <Brace> TJ-: yeah, I've looked at that, but there's just a bunch of DEBUG and a few WARNING messages in there
[12:11] <cyber37_> I have try tweaking with rfkill it doesn't help :/
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> cyber37_  try iwconfig
[12:12] <Brace> TJ-: I'm never sure with logs like that, when I've looked at working examples, they're always filled with loads of errors
[12:17] <cyber37_> iwconfig just see lo and eth0
[12:17] <cyber37_> My wlan0 interface is "not present" ... But she worked on the morning .. and with a live USB she works ..
[12:17] <cyber37_> Maybe something is disabled
[12:19] <cyber37_> I have do something with modprob on the morning for CAn interface
[12:20] <cyber37_> Is it possible that i have removed something essential .?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> cyber37_ modprobe could indeed have disabled essential pieces
[12:21] <cyber37_> ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel I have nothing in that.
[12:22] <cyber37_> did you have something in that folder ?
[12:22] <rtl8188ce> hello, can anyone help me with a possible wi-fi driver issue ?
[12:23] <cyber37_> ok dudes, me i am watching for copy all of my important datas, and full reinstallation of ubuntu would be a good choice :D
[12:24] <rtl8188ce> i still have this fluctuation in my wireless speed and signal
[12:24] <rtl8188ce> which i do not get with suse, with the same hardware
[12:26] <rtl8188ce> i want to use ubuntu but i need to get rid of this fluctuation first. anyone had similar problem with RTL8188CE WiFi Adapter and manage to solve it ?
[12:27] <ObrienDave> rtl8188ce, does it cause connection issues?
[12:27] <fff> bonjour.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !fr|fff
[12:28] <rtl8188ce> it does, my transfer graph is a fuzzy wave, it goes up to max and hit back to min, sometimes even cancelling big downloads
[12:28] <fff> merci.
[12:28] <quem> what
[12:29] <rtl8188ce> pings to my own router dances in between 1000ms and 10ms
[12:30] <ObrienDave> dang, my bed time, hope you get it fixed
[12:31] <shekhu> Hey there!
[12:31] <function9> hi
[12:33] <shekhu> I have to download a file from remote location to my local machine. I do not have the server password, I use ssh key to connect. Is there a way to scp without using remote password and by using ssh key authentication?
[12:34] <txspud> shekhu, yes with an authorized_keys file on the other end that has your ssh public key
[12:35] <txspud> Anyone have an opinion on ksplice, positive or negative, other than it's produced/promoted by oracle?
[12:35] <shekhu> thanks for the tip txspud, I am relatively new to this and dont want to screw up my client's server. Can you give more details about it..
[12:40] <txspud> shekhu, What I recommend is that you edit your public key, remove the @<hostname> after your username, then copy it to a file called authorized_keys2, which you put in your .ssh directory under your home account on the remote machine. Ensure the permissions are correct and execute ssh <machinename> date. If it prompts for a password then your permissions are probably not correct
[12:40] <Dave404> Could someone help me with an upgrade from 10.04 server? Here's the issue I'm having: http://pastebin.com/GHtY9mcm
[12:41] <zane> Hi
[12:42] <shekhu> Thanks txspud, looks like this should work.
[12:43] <txspud> shekhu, np, good luck
[12:46] <Dave404> Could someone help me with an upgrade from 10.04 server? Here's the issue I'm having: http://pastebin.com/GHtY9mcm
[12:49] <emx> how do i start another instance of program over unity when i don't have a middle mouse button?
[12:49] <emx> *of a
[12:49] <function9> Dave404: have you tried in #ubuntu-server
[12:49] <AnoJones> Hi, last night I started upgrading my ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04, and when done(still in what looked like a 13.10 screen), I did shutdown and went to sleep. When trying to boot now, I get a black screen (waited for like 2 minutes). I tried booting to recovery, and the last message (which seems stuck) was: "vesafb module verification failed signature and/or required key missing - tainted kernel".
[12:50] <AnoJones> (I am now talking from the windows OS, dual booting)
[12:50] <Dave404> function9: nope, didn't know it existed. Thanks!
[12:50] <yoko54> are there any skype alternatives?
[12:51] <DJones> !ekiga | yoko54
[12:51] <eeee> emx: shift+alt+<appnumber>
[12:51] <eeee> emx:  i mean shift + super + appnumber
[12:51] <yoko54> thank you
[12:52] <DJones> yoko54: Ekiga is an alternative, if you mean something that can use skype services but isn't skype, in that case I'm not sure
[12:52] <emx> eeee, which version of ubunut? 12.10 seems a bit too old :P
[12:52] <AnoJones> anyone? :S
[12:52] <yoko54> i am not able to add skype friends right?
[12:52] <eeee> 14.04 here
[12:52] <DJones> yoko54: As far as I know you can't
[12:52] <yoko54> ok
[12:52] <emx> eeee, right click helps ^^
[12:53] <DJones> yoko54: Its two competing services
[12:53] <eeee> emx: if you have right click just right click and New ...
[12:53] <emx> eeee, figured it out. thanks.
[12:56] <andlabs|2> Hi. After updating last night and this morning, X11 crashes when I try to log in to most sessions on my username. Guest sessions work fine. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[12:57] <sk04l> After this latest ubuntu upgrade everytime I boot up I get a message that says "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors requested" error and it doesn't go to my desktop or nothing. I can't get to a term or anything like that after i log in it just hangs there
[12:57] <eeee> andlabs|2: try removing the conf file, rename it
[12:57] <andlabs|2> which conf file
[12:58] <shekhu> Hello txspud, so after adding my public key in authorize_keys I did this: scp path/to/file /my/local/directory
[12:58] <sk04l> i renamed my monitors.xml file and now it boots up with the default ubuntu screen and lines run up and down like my video driver is hosed but it doesn't completly boot up
[12:59] <txspud> shekhu, and?
[12:59] <andlabs|2> eeee: which conf file?
[13:00] <shekhu> it says "cannot create regular file `/my/local/directory': No such file or directory"which means it is searching the directory in the remote server itself.
[13:00] <shekhu> not on my machine.
[13:02] <TJ-> shekhu: I think you're meant to replace "path/to/file" and "/my/local/directory" with the actual directories on your local and remote PCs
[13:03] <shekhu> yeah TJ-  I am doing that only, typed it here for people to get the actual context.
[13:03] <TJ-> shekhu: That actually confuses us more, since we may spot a syntax or typo error in the real command
[13:04] <shekhu> Ah, alright so I shall paste the exact command I ran.
[13:04] <shekhu> scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz /home/shekhu/files
[13:04] <TJ-> shekhu: for example "/my/local/directory" as a remote URL is incorrect: it has the form [user@]<remote-host-or-ip>:[path/to/file]
[13:04] <manager> where can i find a good guide on rc commands its my first time ta
[13:04] <andlabs|2> blah, gotta head out, sorry
[13:05] <Tradou> Hello
[13:05] <shekhu> true, so tj, what I have to do is to ssh from remote to my local machine. I have added the ssh key in authorize_keys
[13:05] <TJ-> shekhu: or if you have the remote host already defined in ~/.ssh/config you can refer to the remote host just with it's "Host"  name
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> manager  you mean lik ein .bashrc ?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> like in*
[13:06] <TJ-> shekhu: you are already connected to the remote by SSH, and want to run the command from there?
[13:06] <manager> +i
[13:06] <shekhu> yes, I am connected to remote and want to download a file from there to my local machine.
[13:06] <TJ-> shekhu: Or, you want to run the command on the local machine to fetch the file from the remote?
[13:07] <shekhu> I do not have the password I access it via ssh key
[13:07] <TJ-> shekhu: The way I'd do it is "scp <remote-host>:/var/www/sites/default.tar.gz /home/shekhu/files/"
[13:07] <shekhu> this command will ask for password, which I do not have,
[13:07] <TJ-> shekhu: no, it won't
[13:08] <TJ-> shekhu: It'll only ask for a password if you haven't correctly shared your local public key with the remote host.
[13:08] <TJ-> shekhu: if, on the other hand, you can't share your local public key, and need to reverse it, then assuming you're shared the remote host's public key with the local host, then you just reverse the command to run it on the remote host
[13:09] <TJ-> shekhu: The way I'd do it is "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz <remote-host>:/home/shekhu/files/"
[13:10] <shekhu> it is asking for password.
[13:10] <sk04l> so after lastnights upgrade my desktop doesn't boot. It prompts for a password I type it in and it just sits there with default screen.... anyone have any idea what I can do ???
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu: If the remote host is connected back to the same user name on your local PC that'll work
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> manager  start here http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu: But, if you have a different username on the local PC you'll need to provide that too:
[13:10] <manager> thanks MOnkeyDust!
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu:  "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@<remote-host>:files/"
[13:11] <shekhu> I have added my public key in .ssh/authorized_keys
[13:12] <sk04l> where would i even start trying to look to see what is happeniong?
[13:13] <shekhu> remote host is my local machine. I am getting connection refused. Probably my service provider doesnt allow that when I do "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@<remote-host>:files/" I found my remote host IP by using google
[13:13] <sk04l> anyone able to help me?? I'm hosed without my computer here
[13:13] <TJ-> shekhu: You need to be more specific. "my public key" applies to which PC, which user? Which user and PC is the ".ssh/authorized_keys" you edited?
[13:14] <TJ-> shekhu: Is your local PC behind a router/firewall?
[13:15] <shekhu> I added pubic key of my local machine (where I want to download files) to the authoized_keys files of remote server (where the default.tar.gz file is present)
[13:15] <shekhu> yes I am behind router
[13:15] <TJ-> shekhu: If so it'll need a port-forwarding rule adding
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  ctrl-alt F1 > enter password > work from there .... start with sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:16] <sk04l> MonkeyDust: k let me try
[13:17] <TJ-> shekhu: this is why we usually connect from the home network to the remote when using ssh
[13:17] <TJ-> shekhu: if you've SSHed to the remote from your local PC, then why can you not scp too?
[13:18] <lmat> When I click "System Settings" then "All Settings", only about 5 categories show up :(
[13:18] <sk04l> MonkeyDust,  it did a few things. Seemed mostly mysql stuff.. should i give it a reboot
[13:18] <shekhu> That's what even I am wondering. I was able to ssh without any password but scp is asking for it. My first hunch is that I am doing something wrong with the scp command.
[13:18] <lmat> Also, my clock disappeared (in the upper right). Does anyone know how to get the other settings (and the clock for that matter) back ?
[13:18] <Ramster> shekhu: do you have ssh port set to default or not? sorry for jumping in guys just an thought
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  yes, try that
[13:20] <shekhu> Ramster: I also specified the port.
[13:20] <sk04l> MonkeyDust: Still nothing. Just boots to an empty desktop after i log in.
[13:20] <Ramster> ok i had smilar problem not so long ago too and i had to specify custom ssh port for scp
[13:21] <sk04l> any other idfeas? will there be a log file with some info somewhere?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> !dmesg | try this
[13:24] <sk04l> nothing I can see or tell looks to bad... wtf.. second time i run an ubuntu upgrade it destroys my computer
[13:25] <Ramster> sheku: this is what worked for me with custom SSH port(3546): scp -P 3546  /local/file/location user@host:/var/www/file.png
[13:25] <lmat> freaking crap... when I click "sound settings" from the bar on the top, it takes me to the gimpy "system settings" window (which doesn't have sound as a possible setting!!)
[13:25] <lmat> not cool
[13:26] <nicolas__> probleme sur you tube
[13:26] <lmat> nicolas__: No, it has nothing to do with youtube
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> !fr | nicolas__
[13:26] <lmat> It's almost like I have very strictly limited permissions? I'm the only user though
[13:26] <nicolas__> join ubuntu-fr
[13:27] <nicolas__> probleme sur youtube
[13:27] <nicolas__> de cryptage
[13:28] <Pici> nicolas__: veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> nicolas__  type /j #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <lmat> I just typed `gnome-control-center sound` and it did the same thing
[13:28] <lmat> HEY!  "Could not find settings panel "sound" "
[13:28] <sk04l> MonkeyDust, : Do you have any other suggestions what I can possibly try here?
[13:29] <andlabs> Hi again
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  last wild thought: make sure no partition is 100% full, especially /   -- after that i'm out of ideas
[13:29] <andlabs> Just saying that the problem /was/ with lightdm after all, as I'm back in my KDE session via gdm. Too bad gdm is slow... Thanks anyway!

[13:30] <sk04l> nope partitions are not full
[13:30] <sk04l> won't x give me some type of an error message or something in a log file???
[13:30] <sk04l> what the heck should i do?
[13:30] <andlabs> and heading out, bbl
[13:31] <shekhu> hey ramster thanks but it didnt work as well. I am downloading a file from remote to local machine.
[13:32] <shekhu> my meeting is due in an hour.. am screwed lol
[13:33] <eeee> shekhu: what's the problem?
[13:34] <Pici> 70
[13:34] <eeee> if you cant fetch it from the remote one, dont you have ssh on your local machine?
[13:35] <eeee> (to send it there from the local machine)
[13:35] <shekhu> I am downloading a file from remote to local machine. I have already set the ssh keys of my local machine on the remote server..scp is still asking for password.
[13:36] <shekhu> I can ssh without any problem
[13:36] <eeee> shekhu: to your local machine ?
[13:36] <shekhu> yes to my system.. I want to download a file from remote to my system
[13:37] <shekhu> I tried scp -p 2222 user@remote-host:public_html_y.tar.gz shekhu@Tyler-Durden/home/shekhu/
[13:37] <eeee> so just scp /file/to/send user@host-local-machine:/home/blabla/
[13:38] <eeee> shekhu: use scp on the terminal in the remote machine
[13:38] <Pici> shekhu: if is to your local system, then you only need to do: scp -p 2222 user@remote-host:public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/
[13:38] <Pici> No need to use scp from the remote system....
[13:38] <eeee> Pici: he has a problem, he doesn't have the password and he isn't getting the public keys to work
[13:39] <shekhu> Pici the command you suggested gives /home/shekhu/: No such file or directory ..which means remote is searching for this folder there itself, not my local.
[13:40] <shekhu> I have to find a way to specify my hostname to the remote so that it identified my local machine.
[13:40] <Ramster> shekhu: did you use a capital -P ?
[13:40] <lmat> Oh, but   sudo gnome-control-center sound; "works"
[13:41] <edition> hello!
[13:41] <Pici> shekhu: no,you don't need to do that.  1) make sure that you provide the absolute path to public_html_y.tar.gz in the command 2) the second half of the command refers to local computer. Make sure that path exists.
[13:42] <lmat> I think I found the problem.
[13:42] <lmat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287181/only-root-sees-all-icons-in-gnome-control-center-after-upgrade-to-lubuntu-13-04
[13:42] <lmat> Suggests that I apt-get install unity-control-center. I did that, and noticed a bunch of "evolution" stuff.
[13:42] <lmat> Earlier, I had removed evolution, which probably removed unity-control-center, et allii.
[13:43] <lmat> okay, now gnome-control-center does what it is supposed to
[13:43] <shekhu> I tried capital P
[13:44] <shekhu> Pici: did as you suggested scp -P 2222 /home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:44] <shekhu> I get the error message: cp: cannot create regular file `/home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/': No such file or directory
[13:45] <shekhu> remote is still tring to create the folder in itself
[13:45] <Pici> shekhu: like this? scp -P 2222 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:45] <shekhu> copy the file in itself.*
[13:46] <shekhu> this accept the connection on port 22 but asks for password.
[13:46] <shekhu>  scp -P 22 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:47] <lmat> Now I can get to the Time & Date settings, but everything is grayed out :(
[13:47] <lmat> I see that "Show a clock in the menu bar" is checked (and disabled), but there is no clock in the menu bar.
[13:50] <shekhu> Pici: scp -P 22 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/ asks for password
[13:51] <Pici> shekhu: how did you add your public key to the remote server?
[13:52] <shekhu> added in: .ssh/authorized_keys
[13:53] <shekhu> Pici: can do ssh without any problem as well
[13:53] <eeee> shekhu: if the meeting is in an hour, how big is the file btw?
[13:53] <Pici> shekhu: you can ssh as your user? or the user you are specifying in the scp command? or both?
[13:54] <shekhu> file is 3 GB, can make it before the meeting.
[13:54] <shekhu> I can ssh as my user not as a user I am specifying in scp.
[13:54] <shekhu> wait...
[13:54] <shekhu> I can ssh as the user I am specifying.
[13:55] <six86> Hello. I have a problem with upstart. I want to start a software when two can interfaces are available. But "start on (net-device-up IFACE=can0 and net-device-up IFACE=can1)" does not work. Am I doing something wrong here?!
[13:55] <shekhu> I can login as user I am specifying in scp (qa) not as my local machine user (shekhu)
[13:56] <eeee> shekhu: i was thinking if you dont have much time you could just use a free shell as a middle man
[13:56] <shekhu> eeee: yup I can give it a shot
[13:56] <eeee> shekhu: try this in the remote host terminal: scp /file/to/send user@host-local-machine:/home/blabla/
[13:57] <eeee> try that first though
[13:57] <Pici> shekhu: Does using -v give any extra info?
[13:57] <Pici> well.. I mean info that looks helpful
[13:59] <shekhu> Pici: executing scp -v /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@Tyler-Durden:/home/shekhu/Builtinfiles gives this: OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for * ssh: Could not resolve hostname Tyler-Durden: Name or service not known lost connection
[14:00] <eeee> shekhu: give it the IP address of your local machine
[14:00] <eeee> instead of Tyler...
[14:01] <shekhu> eeee: tried. connection refused. I am behind a router
[14:03] <|Frodo|> hello! I want to install "mutt" on kubuntu 12.04 LTS. for sending mails I have installed "msmtp" but the mutt packet still wants to have "postfix". can  I deny to install postfix in my case? and, if I accept to install postfix (that I don't want to use) it shows me a configuration screen. wich option is correct for me: noconfig, only local mail or should I press "cancel"?
[14:03] <Brace> TJ-: I've ended up creating a blank homedir and switching the user to that and so far, touch wood it's ok
[14:03] <eeee> shekhu: i think i got it
[14:04] <eeee> shekhu: run the command Pici gave you, the one that had -P 2222, but remove the last "/" after Builtin...
[14:04] <Pici> |Frodo|: try: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install mutt
[14:05] <shekhu> eeee: This? scp -P 2222 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles
[14:05] <eeee> yes
[14:05] <|Frodo|> Pici: you mean, it is save to install mutt without postfix but with msmtp!?
[14:06] <shekhu> eeee: this asks for password too
[14:06] <eeee> wasn't it erroring out file not found?
[14:06] <Pici> |Frodo|: yes.
[14:07] <shekhu> eeee: it happens when I do not give host and username. Asks for password everytime I give hostname.
[14:07] <eeee> shekhu: i tried it here and if the directory isn't created, the last "/" wont let it work
[14:07] <TJ-> Brace: what a pain... I suggest installing every form of logging/monitoring of that user to found out how they mess it up again later :)
[14:08] <shekhu> eeee: the directory is created on my local.
[14:08] <shekhu> is there any permission which needs to be set to do scp?
[14:08] <geeerot> #archlinux Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with
[14:08] <geeerot>           services
[14:09] <Pici> !register | geeerot
[14:09] <erobinson> Hi everyone happy friday!
[14:09] <shekhu> if I have ssh access and can do it without any problem why is it not allowing me to do scp?
[14:09] <shekhu> thanks erobinson and same to you.
[14:10] <Brace> TJ-: I suspect that ~8 years of cruft has just caused some weirdness to creep in somewhere along the line
[14:11] <Brace> TJ-: thanks for your help :D
[14:11] <shekhu> thanks for the help guys I shall try more.
[14:12] <WXZ> I need an audio editor that supports wav files with cue
[14:13] <|Frodo|> vel clientcrap,clientnotices,modes,joins,parts,quits
[14:13] <|Frodo|> sorry
[14:13] <FuzzyWhirlpool> audacity will do the audio editing tasks.
[14:16] <user258467> Does ubuntu is encrypted by default I believe I configure when installing it but I am not sure?
[14:16] <Pici> user258467: you can configure it at install time.
[14:17] <eeee> shekhu: im looking into scp -3
[14:17] <user258467> Pici, thanks a lot so I am nearly sure I do it how could I verfy that?
[14:17] <Pici> user258467: start the install? check the install docs?
[14:17] <APV> My cooling fan started to works only on minimal speed and does not speed up when cpu gets hot, otherwise, everything is ok, the sound of fan did not change. Any ideas what is the cause/how to fix it?
[14:18] <shekhu> thanks for helping eeee
[14:21] <MoonSlime> quit
[14:21] <Kiryx> Hello
[14:21] <AskSteve> Hello
[14:22] <Kiryx> I have a very strange behavior with g++ 4.8.2-19ubuntu1 compiler, and basically any ubuntu-flavored version of it since something like ubuntu 11.4 or so
[14:23] <ls_-l_gms_ytv> are ubuntu graphics driuvers 'smart' enough to realize my screen was only 720 p max so it limited operation intentionally of video play back so i would keep the settings at 720?
[14:24] <Kiryx> Namely, when compiling a particular software package on ubuntu I need to manually alter the order of the libraries during linking in the makefile file
[14:24] <Kiryx> and Ubuntu seems to be the only linux distro which contains this strange behaviour
[14:24] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  hello
[14:25] <user39202> I'm having problems with alsamixer muting the volume on reboot.   Also when I increase the volume then enter "sudo alsactl store 0", it says:  Home directory not accessible: Permission denied.
[14:28] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  Kiryx , you should do `apt-get build-dep ` before compiling software to resolve the build dependencies.
[14:29] <nicholasdipiazza> Hi everyone. Does anyone here know if there are any plans to fix Ubuntu 14 + XRDP + Gnome -session? It stopped working on 14.x. Works fine on 12.x.
[14:29] <nicholasdipiazza> about to put 30 ubuntu 14's on some computers but that is blocking me pretty good
[14:30] <pyrohdezo> Hii
[14:32] <nicholasdipiazza> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1251281
[14:33] <Mausolus> evening. left laptop unattended for a while it was upgrading to 14.04. now the screen is apparently locked, and unresponsive (= the login dialog doesn't show up when I try hitting keys). managed ctrl-alt-f1 into tty1 and thus here, though. any pointers?
[14:33] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  nicholasdipiazza , great! You've reported the problem. Now just be patient to wait for Canonical people to fix the problem.
[14:33] <nicholasdipiazza> FuzzyWhirlpool: interested in seeing where it is at so i can contribute if possible
[14:35] <smekk> \quit
[14:35] <Psi-Jack> I see that Ubuntu 14.04 has /some/ parts of systemd, but not all.?
[14:39] <ForSpareParts> Is it possible to get VDPAU support using the proprietary (fglrx) AMD video driver?
[14:39] <ubunoob_> Noob Q: is there a viable reason to leave the write cache option disabled for an internal hdd (laptop)?
[14:40] <ForSpareParts> I see a lot of people talking online about VAAPI backends for VDPAU, and some chatter about an XVBA backend, too. But I’m not sure how to get it set up, or even if I can, with fglrx.
[14:42] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, I wonder why graphic drivers on Linux kernel are buggy. Do the vendors make the graphics hardware especially for MS platforms?
[14:43] <neldogz> does anyone know if rsync will recopy all files everytime you run it unless you specify the --ignore-existing parameter?
[14:44] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Or maybe it's about Linux which doesn't enforce vendors to release source code of their drivers - so that they release binary drivers whirch can't be audited.
[14:45] <IceBot3000> FuzzyWhirlpool: Windows drivers are the primary focus, because it has a far larger marketshare plus PC gaming is a large motivator
[14:45] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  neldogz, have you read rsync manual?
[14:48] <neldogz> FuzzyWhirlPool: yes but i guess i dont understand fully
[14:49] <neldogz> I am used to Robocopy from Microsoft where the /mir switch just skips over anything that already exists.. i am trying to create an equivalent using rsync
[14:49] <neldogz> rsync -rltDvi --progress --ignore-existing --delete --log-file=/home/user1/Desktop/MIR/rsync_NetBackup /media/user1/Data-931GB-NTFS/NetBackup/ '/media/user1/WD-1.8ExFat/NetBackup/'
[14:49] <neldogz> thats what i have so far
[14:49] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Oh, the Robust File Copier program to copy files over network.
[14:50] <neldogz> i am using the -rltDvi switches instead of -a because i am copying to an ExFat partition
[14:50] <Guest7706> i installed nvidia 340.24 on my ubuntu 14.04 and then screen is balck after restarting    why ?
[14:50] <FuzzyWhirlpool> rsync, the Remote Synchronization should be able to do the job.
[14:51] <StartButtonFTW> anyone know how to force alsamixer to unmute upon reboot?
[14:51] <GreatPotato> Is there an easy way to downgrade PHP5.5 to 5.4 in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:52] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Guest7706: because nvidia binary drivers are buggy. Go with nouveau instead.
[14:52] <IceBot3000> FuzzyWhirlpool: You have no idea of the issue, it's probably not that the drivers are simply "buggy"
[14:53] <neldogz> FuzzuWhirlpool; remote synchronization?
[14:53] <OliPicard> Greetings all. Quick question. How do you setup UFW to accept inbound port 80 connections via a single ip address?
[14:54] <OliPicard> i am using the following commands ufw allow from [IP
[14:54] <OliPicard> ] to www which is causing me to get an invaild destination message.
[14:55] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  OliPicard, have you read ufw manual?
[14:55] <sasuke> hi all, i was unable to connect to my device, can anybody help me out please
[14:55] <OliPicard> Yup been reading the ubuntu wiki and digital ocean's article too.
[14:56] <OliPicard> "invaild destination address" is the error.
[14:56] <FuzzyWhirlpool> I mean `man ufw` output.
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !details| sasuke
[14:57] <Guest7706> what is nouveau ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !info nouveau
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Guest7706 nvidia video driver
[14:58] <sasuke> it was trying to connect but it is saying "stream setup is failed"
[14:58] <Guest7706> which can i install on my ubuntu ?
[14:58] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info nouveau-firmware | Guest7706
[14:59] <OliPicard> FuzzyWhirlpool: I have just seen a manual just tried this command.  sudo ufw allow from [IP] to port tcp/80 however it's coming back invaild also tried other commands too.
[14:59] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | Guest7706
[15:00] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Have you enabled ufw?
[15:00] <OliPicard> bingo had to set the proto!
[15:01] <Guest7706> for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:01] <sasuke> apriciated if any help
[15:03] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  sasuke, what device do you have the problem with?
[15:03] <Busybyeski> hello, can anyone help me to use command line to sort a directory of directories by recursive filesize?
[15:03] <sasuke> FuzzyWhirlpool, how can i check that
[15:06] <sasuke> ??
[15:07] <Guest7706> ubuntu 14.04 after login crashed  why  ?
[15:08] <zacktu> My xubuntu 12.04 says that an update would require installation of untrusted packages such as linux headers, linux image, etc.  (3.2.0-67) -- what's going on?
[15:10] <SouL> Anyone knows how to setup a multiseat ubuntu? Easy. With an application or something=
[15:10] <StartButton> zacktu:  NSA trying to gain access again?
[15:10] <xangua> !gpgerr | zacktu
[15:11] <sasuke> hi dont know, what to do , but found this "http://pastebin.com/YVxuRBXe" on /var/log/syslog file.Anybody please help me
[15:12] <Guest7706> why ubuntu 14.04 after loging crashed /
[15:12] <Guest7706> ?
[15:13] <sasuke> Guest7706, whats happening .. did you find anything on the logs
[15:14] <zacktu> !gpgerr | zacktu
[15:15] <Guest7706> sasuke : i have to  after login Alt+ctrl+F1  and then sudo service lightdm restart
[15:17] <sasuke> Guest7706, i am not quite sure about it, but check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/449479/ubuntu-14-04-lts-crashes-after-login
[15:19] <Dave404> Oops, looks like it doesn't want to work without the regex flag: grep -rl "gupfiihzra" . | xargs sed -i -r 's/<\?php \$gupfiihzra.*\$cmhvuwnohn-1; \?>//'
[15:24] <liox_> hi
[15:24] <liox_> You can not give me a support to restore my VPS I use Ubuntu 04.12 with IPSConfig panel that ran apache 2.2 and php 5.3 then I upgraded to php 5.5 and apache automatically upgraded to 2.4 which broke all my virtual host with the message Forbidden You do not have permission to access / on this server. one example http://agenciazig.com.br/
[15:24] <liox_> ples help me =(
[15:24] <liox_> ops ubuntu 14.04
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !brazil|liox_
[15:33] <danileigh79> An6bod6y know if there is a way to auto-hide the launcher bar only if certain criteria are met, e.g. opening Chrome browser?
[15:44] <ik_> hi
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> hi ik_
[15:44] <ik_> how are you ?
[15:47] <OOOOOO> how do i make this game work  in dos box
[15:47] <OOOOOO> hi
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: which game?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !details | OOOOOO
[15:47] <OOOOOO> street rod
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: why didnt you say that? why did you only say "this game"?
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i did not know if you knew what street rod was
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i just said this game
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i just merm in general
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: if you run the installer with dosbox it will mount the installer path as "C:"
[15:49] <OOOOOO> how do i do that i new to ubuntu
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: so (if you read the man page) you can set a folder as "C:" then set the install binary to be anoher drive letter
[15:49] <OOOOOO> i would know  his os if it was done for me
[15:49] <OOOOOO> i would not haft to touch a  key
[15:49] <ik_> how are you ?
[15:50] <OOOOOO> i dont know nothing
[15:50] <OOOOOO> about ubuntu
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !manual|OOOOOO I believe you.  read the manual.  come back later.
[15:50] <kostkon> OOOOOO, if you aren't familiar with dos and/or dosbox, then  try using a frontend like dbgl  http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/
[15:50] <OOOOOO> i know some not all
[15:50] <ik_> mi neither
[15:51] <OOOOOO> to be honest i did not get arecovery cd with my computer and i had no os i have no other choice then this os
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox   a quick websearch brings that up...have you seen that page?
[15:52] <OOOOOO> i like ubuntu some it has some features windows will never have  it faster too
[15:52] <OOOOOO> but i just dont uderstand it i read thing and the thing i read turn out to be e
[15:52] <OOOOOO> wro\ng
[15:53] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO install steam.  install steam games.  play.
[15:53] <OOOOOO> what steam games
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !steam
[15:53] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I'm setting up a home webdev environment on Ubuntu 14.04.  I have installed postfix for sending mail.  Am I correct in thinking that I will need to configure it to send mail through a trusted server (bluehost, gmail, my ISP) if I want to send mail to the world at large?  If there is a better channel for this question please let me know.
[15:54] <OOOOOO> what is steam
[15:54] <OOOOOO> cann i run dos
[15:54] <OOOOOO> on it dos games
[15:54] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO some dos games are available in steam.  www.steampowered.com
[15:55] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay you're in the right channel.
[15:56] <OOOOOO> you want me to gowhere
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: you would need dosbox in Windows too to play old DOS games
[15:56] <OOOOOO> yeah i know
[15:57] <OOOOOO> i can run dos  box in that but i cant figure it out in ubuntu
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: its not hard to use, once you work out the commands you can make a bash script to do it all
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: run it in a terminal.....
[15:57] <OOOOOO> how do i mount
[15:57] <OOOOOO> c :\
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the link I gave you earlier.....its all there/. Why do you think I got it for you ?
[15:58] <OOOOOO> when i type mount c
[15:58] <OOOOOO> it dont  do nothing
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the link
[15:59] <OOOOOO> i dont read websites no more to much wrong infromation
[15:59] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO then we cant' help you.  find someone local, pay them and enjoy your system
[15:59] <OerHeks> OOOOOO, so you do trust this information?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: that is the dosbox wiki on the dosbox official website!
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: and what is to stop you being given incorrect advise by users
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: your logic is seriously flawed
[16:00] <OOOOOO> 0but what is this room for then
[16:00] <OOOOOO> this room is for help
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: I gave you a link which is correct
[16:00] <OOOOOO> aint it
[16:00] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO information and assistance - which you were given.
[16:00] <OOOOOO> i be back in here then
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: basically too lazy and want spoonfeeding commands
[16:01] <OOOOOO> i cant beleve he just cant type the command to mont
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: mount what> You need to tell the system what to mount
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: think about is
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: think about it*
[16:02] <OOOOOO> what is the mount command
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the wiki, you''ll understand
[16:02] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO open a terminal.   man mount will tell you all about that command
[16:04] <OOOOOO> cant you just tell me what i need to typ
[16:04] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO type:   man mount
[16:04] <OOOOOO> ty
[16:05] <OOOOOO>  then what do i do hit  enter
[16:05] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO yes.  then you read.
[16:05] <OOOOOO> i cant under stand the wiki
[16:05] <OOOOOO> just tell me what i need
[16:05] <OOOOOO> please
[16:06] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO it doesn't work that way.   if you are unable/unwilling to learn how to manage your own system, you can probably find someone locally, pay them and have them set it up for you..
[16:06] <OOOOOO> i typed in mount
[16:06] <OOOOOO> what do i do now
[16:06] <OOOOOO> after i type mount
[16:07] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO actionparsnip gave you the wiki link with the info you need.  read it.  follow it.
[16:09] <OOOOOO> i just tell me cant you just type it fro me in the room
[16:09] <OOOOOO> geeeeeeez
[16:10] <OOOOOO>  this guy does not know how to run dos box
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: this is getting boriong and you are obviously too lazy to read so we'll do this
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: sigh
[16:10] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO find a pay the experts if you refuse to do it yourself.  I won't be responsible for your errors.   I'm on 12.04.4
[16:22] <Jack64> now I can't even start it to backup my DBs, what to do?
[16:23] <rewbycraft> Jack64: What errors?
[16:23] <genii> Jack64: Have you tried: sudo apt-get -f install  ...yet?
[16:24] <Jack64> genii: yes, and rewbycraft it's errors in portuguese but it says mysql-server can't be installed because it depends on mysql-server-5.5, and when I apt-get install/upgrade mysql-server-5.5 it says mysql-server-5.5 isn't configured
[16:25] <Jack64> it was all working before, i had like 10 DBs working 100%
[16:25] <preyalone> dpkg -S `which time` says "time: /usr/bin/time". does that mean it's from the "time" package?
[16:25] <rewbycraft> Jack64: Some error must've happened during configuration. Can you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the output?
[16:26] <Jack64> rewbycraft: sure, it'll take a minute tho
[16:26] <DusXMT> or better yet, "sudo env LC_ALL=C dpkg --configure -a"
[16:26] <rewbycraft> DusXMT: Good point.
[16:26] <Jack64> rewbycraft: invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[16:27] <Jack64> that's pretty much the only error in English
[16:27] <DusXMT> Jack64: If you run my command, it will be in english, put the output into a pastebin
[16:27] <rewbycraft> Jack64: Can you do DusXMT's command and actually pastebin the entire log?
[16:27] <Jack64> ok ok, 1min
[16:27] <tgunr> Question: If you have a live system with two identical HDD what would be the best way to duplicate /dev/sda to /dev/sdb? I can stop most all the application processes but cannot bring the system completely down to copy the drive over unmounted using `dd'. Guess my question is can I use `dd' in this situation or should I go ahead and format, create file system, then rsync over the files?
[16:28] <Jack64> here you go: http://pastebin.com/diKc12bJ
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !clone | tgm4883
[16:28] <rewbycraft> That's the most useless error I've ever seen APT give.
[16:29] <Jack64> rewbycraft: indeed
[16:29] <joelmo_> how can i remap keys on my keyboard, the layout on my laptop and the usbkeyboard i plug in differs, the super keys are on different places and some other keys are different too, maybe it would be nice if i could change layout with ibus using alt-space or something
[16:29] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: not me
[16:29] <Jack64> any way to get the databases saved before I purge/install?
[16:29] <cfhowlett> tgm4883 right/  sorry
[16:29] <rewbycraft> Jack64: You might wanna check the apt logs in /var/log to see what's actually happening. I need to go eat though.
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !clone | tgunr
[16:30] <Jack64> rewbycraft: ok, thanks for your help
[16:30] <tgunr> its not another machine, it's /dev/sda -> /dev/sdb
[16:34] <absk007_> is there any shorthand for `mv` cmd?
[16:34] <eeee> more shorthand than mv ?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> absk007_ shorthand?  mv is already pretty darn short!
[16:34] <cfhowlett> tgunr never done it myself, but I suspect rsync would meet your use profile
[16:35] <absk007_> cfhowlett, no i mean i saw somewhere `mv /opt/file1.txt{,file2.txt}`
[16:36] <cfhowlett> absk007_ see the man page for "mv" ...
[16:37] <absk007_> cfhowlett, it's not in there or i couldn't find anywhere.
[16:42] <TJ-> absk007_: You're asking about shell expansions, e.g. see "man bash" "/^EXPANSION"
[16:42] <absk007_> TJ-, thanks.
[16:43] <rajmahendra> I just upgraded my ubuntu to new one when i restart i am getting boot error showing "Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-khmer.conf", line 14: out of memory" Anyone help me to solve this.. its not at all displaying login scren.
[16:45] <UnknownNick> any one experinaced in stash installing in ubuntu
[16:46] <cagri> hello, when i have two windows of google chrom open, and i want to switch between them by clicking on the  icon on the unity panel, my whole system freezes. does anyone know why?
[16:46] <rajmahendra> i found this soluton but i am unable to login to system but how can i execute the command ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/421891/fontconfig-error-out-of-memory
[16:48] <TJ-> rajmahendra: start the system in Recovery mode
[16:48] <rajmahendra> TJ-: how to run the recovery mode ?
[16:49] <TJ-> rajmahendra: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[16:51] <aboudreault> Does anyone know how could I get that damn grub-efi-amd64-signed to install?
[16:52] <aboudreault> (the package installation)
[16:52] <TJ-> aboudreault: "sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed" ?
[16:52] <ServerSage> aboudreault: What error are you getting?
[16:52] <DJ> anyone know setup idea mobile broadband?
[16:54] <aboudreault> yes. The installation just crash with grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow
[16:54] <aboudreault> i'm testing the manual installation since the installer just crash with that error too
[16:55] <genii> From the sound of that, looks like you are trying to install it onto a persistent USB installation
[16:55] <ilovelinux> hi
[16:55] <aboudreault> using a usb key yes, from the live dvd
[16:55] <alexherbo2> Hi
[16:55] <aboudreault> cd
[16:55] <ilovelinux> hi alecherbo2
[16:56] <DarkSector_> So I am on raring and it's not supported any longer. Anyway I want to upgrade to the latest release but my repos are giving me 404 and I want a way that doesn't include making me reinstall the whole os
[16:56] <DJ> usb 3g modem huawei ..run new mobile broadband and setup but no connection.
[16:56] <DarkSector_> So what can I do?
[16:56] <ilovelinux> I need your public IP address of the modem
[16:56] <ilovelinux> tank you
[16:56] <webmind> wut?
[16:56] <ilovelinux> I need your public IP address of the modem
[16:57] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux i'm NOT giving you my public modem address!
[16:57] <alexherbo2> http://bpaste.net/raw/475543/
[16:58] <alexherbo2> I have hard probleme with my hard drive
[16:58] <alexherbo2> :(
[16:58] <rajmahendra> TJ-: it says not using locking for read only lock file  dpkg was interrupted you must manually run sudo dpkg --congiure -a to correct teh problem.
[16:58] <ilovelinux> what is your public IP address of the modem
[16:58] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux no.  no.  and HECK no.
[16:58] <TJ-> rajmahendra: OK, you'll probably need to remount the root file-system read/write
[16:58] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|DarkSector_
[16:58] <rajmahendra> TJ-: when i run dpkg it says unable to access dpkg status area readonly file system
[16:59] <TJ-> rajmahendra: which should be done with "mount -o remount-rw /"
[16:59] <rajmahendra> TJ-: and then purge the font ?
[16:59] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: Okay let me see if this works
[16:59] <TJ-> rajmahendra: If you then do "mount | grep / " you should see (rw) to indicate it is read/write now
[17:00] <TJ-> rajmahendra: now redo the "dpkg --configure -a" and then purge the font
[17:01] <rajmahendra> TJ-:  when i run 'mount -o remount-rw /' it says /dev/sda1 already mounted or /busy
[17:01] <Glycan> Could someone explain, please, what exactly the difference between lightdm, LXDE/Xfce/etc, Openbox, and Compiz/Metacity/etc is?
[17:01] <TJ-> rajmahendra: my fault, typo! "mount -o remount,rw / "
[17:01] <super> lightdm control your login session
[17:01] <cfhowlett> Glycan different look and feels
[17:01] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Glycan
[17:02] <super> lxde is another desktop environment lighter than xfce
[17:02] <Glycan> I'm not asking about the difference between LXDE and Xfce, I'm asking about what the different levels of things do
[17:02] <super> compiz are using to give you the special effects for your desktop environment
[17:02] <super> Glycan, they are absolutely not different at all
[17:03] <Glycan> I'm not entirely sure what those classes of things are called, otherwise I'd jsut ask about them. Desktop environment, window manager, display manager...?
[17:03] <sjmikem> My left mouse button has stopped working on my 2nd monitor
[17:03] <rajmahendra> TJ-: its ok its running now with many setting up..
[17:03] <sjmikem> can anyone help me resolve it without rebooting?
[17:03] <Glycan> super: lightdm is the same type of thing as openbox?
[17:03] <super> lightdm is not openbox
[17:03] <Glycan> the same *type* of thing
[17:04] <super> lightdm is the login session manager
[17:04] <Glycan> like, from what I've understood KDE and GNOME are the same type of thing (window managers?)
[17:04] <TJ-> sjmikem: is the 2nd monitor running a 2nd X session?
[17:04] <sjmikem> TJ- no it's all one X session AFAIK
[17:05] <super> lightdm is your bouncer you must have username and password before you go inside that desktop club
[17:05] <Glycan> that's the display manager?
[17:06] <sjmikem> TJ- I have one X process, two lightdm processes
[17:07] <ilovelinux> what is your public IP address of the modem
[17:08] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux why?
[17:08] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: okay that works. I don't even need to upgrade. I can just use those packages
[17:08] <ilovelinux> Public IP: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[17:08] <sjmikem> TJ- I guess kill lightdm was not the right answer
[17:08] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ true, but you really SHOULD consider upgrading to a supported version -
[17:09] <sjmikem> TJ- what should I do next time it happens?
[17:09] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  ilovelinux, you could find it via `/whois ` irc command.
[17:09] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: well in about 30 days I won't be using this machine anyway. So I will install the new version on the new machine I get
[17:10] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ sounds like a plan.  consider 14.04 as it has Long Term Support - 5 years!
[17:10] <DarkSector_> Woohoo
[17:10] <DarkSector_> Thanks for the help cfhowlett, later.
[17:11] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ happy2help
[17:11] <Frantic> Hey guys, I've just tried installing ubuntu on a new computer, Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: did you install graphics driver?
[17:12] <Frantic> The one thing I've tried is plugging my headphones in the front jack, instead of the back jack. Starngely, the front jack is better, quailty is not horrible, but it's quite low
[17:13] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: I've installed the nvidia driver, yes, why do you ask?
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: and sound drivers?
[17:13] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: no, not sure what sound drivers I should install
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: double check your additional drivers section
[17:14] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: I don't recall seeing anything in the additional drivers section, should there have been something in there?
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: just to make sure is why i ask
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Frantic
[17:17] <TJ-> sjmikem: If it isn't with 2 X sessions my suspected cause can't be correct.
[17:18] <WXZ1> I have a bunch of wav files and cue sheets for those wave files, how do I view the audio with cue points?
[17:18] <sjmikem> TJ- any tips on diagnosing further?
[17:18] <invisiblek> anyone have a socket 2011 board/cpu running that can run a quick command for me?
[17:19] <sjohnson> i think you mean LGA2011
[17:19] <invisiblek> yea, sure w/e
[17:19] <TJ-> sjmikem: My thought was some application had captured the mouse but if it works on one monitor but not the other, I can't think how that would occur, if you've got your desktop over both
[17:19] <Guest49127> hello, where can I get support with my ubuntu? i am having troubles with monitor
[17:21] <SouL> Anyone knows how to setup a multiseat ubuntu? Easy. With an application or something.
[17:23] <joakim_> What do you mean with "multiseat" "Soul"?
[17:23] <Psi-Jack> heh
[17:23] <SouL> joakim_: ultiple users using one personal computer, each with their own console, consisting of a keyboard, a mouse and a monitor.
[17:23] <SouL> multiple*
[17:23] <Jack64> guys I have purged my install of mysql-server and mysql-server-5.5 and still can't install using apt-get, what can I do? I need it up
[17:24] <Beldar> SouL, lots of wiki's here is one. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multiseat
[17:25] <Frantic> Guys,  I've just tried installing ubuntu on a new computer, Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:26] <SouL> Beldar: I try to understand that but I don't know if I'm going to be able. I'm not a computer scientist or anything, just a user
[17:26] <helpi> hello, my ubuntu spread view causes my system to freeze, does anyone know how to fix this
[17:26] <helpi> ?
[17:26] <rajmahendra> TJ-: thank you so much it works :)
[17:27] <joakim_> Soul is asking for a simple way, i'm looking  at it.Brb
[17:27] <rajmahendra> you saved my office laptop :D
[17:27] <SouL> joakim_: thank you very muhc
[17:27] <dionisio> hello ubuntu friends
[17:27] <xxneolithicxx> hi all
[17:28] <damearin> hello i got a question
[17:28] <dionisio> i installed ubuntu 14.04 and after some tweaks the top bar disapeared. doesanyone knows how to make it visible again?
[17:29] <dionisio> i make gnome flashbak and remove some unity libs
[17:29] <Guest49127> guys, i have connected two diffrent monitors to my laptop using vga (one by one of course) and used them with my laptop monitor as two monitors, now when i have only laptop, after logging in, i get black screen, i have to boot from usb, initframs says, that there is conflict with two vga monitors, but right now no one is connected. liveusb runs perfectly, what can i do, to force display on my laptop monitor? i cant use console for that,
[17:29] <Guest49127>  but i can modify files from usb
[17:29] <xangua> dionisio: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to install back what you removed
[17:29] <dionisio> thank you xangua. ill let you know
[17:29] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[17:30] <damearin> what is the difference betwenn apt-get and aptitude because this os seems to be like the point where ubuntu split from debian so im confused
[17:30] <vik1231> does the 14.04 kernel update released yesterday ? so how do i upgrade
[17:30] <xxneolithicxx> im having issues installing lightdm on ubuntu server 14.04, I have tried 'sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg mate-desktop lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter mate-desktop nvidia-experimental-310' but all I get on boot is a underscore cursor on the top left of my screen
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why did you install an X server on a server?
[17:31] <WXZ1> I have a bunch of wav files and cue sheets for those wave files, how do I view the audio with cue points?
[17:31] <Frantic> Guys, Just installed Ubuntu on a Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the sound quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:31] <dionisio> xangua, its the same. ill reboot to check if anything changed. brb
[17:31] <Beldar> SouL, Try to understand this is free help and some things you have to do yourself one being research and exact issue addressing.
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: wasnt sure if I was missing Xorg stuff that was causing my lightdm not tostart
[17:32] <SouL> Beldar: Yes of course, thank you very much.
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> it looks like lightdm just starts and then bails
[17:32] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why do you want to install an X on a server?
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> but theres no errors in the logs
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: how else would you run Mate without xorg?
[17:32] <Frantic> Anyone? :(
[17:33] <helpi> Help my unity scale effect keeps crashing (super + w)
[17:33] <joakim_> "Soul" When im reading the info at the "wikipage" it seemes like multiseat is "working" yet in Ubuntu, but it would in the future.
[17:33] <vik1231> does the 14.04 kernel update released yesterday ? so how do i upgrade
[17:33] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why do you want to run Mate on a SERVER?
[17:33] <Allusoar> Im late in on this, but what is your graphics vendor. Intel, nvidia, etc.
[17:33] <joakim_> Ofcourse I could be wrong but it seemes correct
[17:34] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: because I do :-) run along if you have no input other than why
[17:34] <Beldar> Frantic, Please no anyone stuff it shows a lack of patience and is a by itself a waste of all out times.
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> Quite silly.
[17:34] <Beldar> our*
[17:35] <SouL> joakim_: com dius?
[17:35] <Joseph_> Hi
[17:35] <usr13> Lumiette: And be sure that if you have a UEFI partition to leave it alone
[17:35] <Joseph_> i am facing strange issues with ubuntu 14.04 server
[17:35] <Allusoar> Try installing "xserver-xorg-video-*"  where * is you graphics vendor,  without quotations. Then use startx.
[17:35] <Joseph_> any one help out pls
[17:35] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815466/
[17:36] <dionisio> xangua, its the same... thank you anyway
[17:36] <Psi-Jack> Joseph_: Sorry, I don't see pls anywhere in this channel at this time.
[17:36] <Beldar> Joseph_> any one help out pls NOne of this please, post all in one set as well.
[17:36] <Frantic> Beldar: I have no idea what you tried to say
[17:37] <Beldar> Allusoar, For an X startX is not correct in  general.
[17:37] <Allusoar> and the person who asked how would you run mate without xorg, there is xvesa, which I would not use because its way too glitchy
[17:37] <Allusoar> startx would be to test it, not use it all the time
[17:37] <Joseph_> Hi sorry what you mean
[17:37] <Joseph_> can you help me to out ?
[17:37] <Beldar> Frantic, Post your issue all together in one post no hello's no pls, keep it to the point.
[17:37] <dionisio> help lease. top bar (user, time, session/reboot menu) is not visible. how an i make it visible again?
[17:38] <Allusoar> and yes start x does start an xserver through xorg, if you would like to test it hit ctrl+alt+f2 then login and type startx
[17:38] <Frantic> Beldar: I did post it alltogether
[17:38] <Allusoar> it will launch your default xsession
[17:38] <OerHeks> Joseph_, is this on ARM ? you might want to join #ubuntu-arm
[17:38] <xxneolithicxx> Allusoar: its linux, theres almost always another way ;-)
[17:38] <Beldar> !details | Allusoar
[17:39] <Beldar> Frantic, I'm not going to argue with you it took three posts including a pls help to just get a pastebin, that is not really how this works here.
[17:39] <Allusoar> I was trying to help Psi-jack
[17:39] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: Pardon?
[17:39] <joakim_> Sorry, Soul...trying to find a solution to youre problem beacuse I want this to ..what do you mean with com dius?
[17:39] <dionisio> help lease. top bar (user, time, session/reboot menu) is not visible. how an i make it visible again?
[17:39] <Frantic> Beldar: dude, I think you're mixing me up with someone else, no idea what pastebin you're talking about
[17:40] <Allusoar> Psi-Jack: wasnt sure if I was missing Xorg stuff that was causing my lightdm not tostart
[17:40] <Joseph_> not able to install any package on ubuntu server 14.04
[17:40] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815466/
[17:40] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: I was simply asking why someone would want to install Xorg, Mate, or lightdm on what they labeled as a "server", not a desktop.
[17:40] <xxneolithicxx> Joseph_:  have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:40] <Allusoar> Because some people run minecraft servers, etc, on ubuntu servers that require a gui to run.
[17:41] <Joseph_> Yes
[17:41] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: Which is a horrible excuse.
[17:41] <Beldar> Beldar> Frantic, Please no anyone stuff it shows a lack of patience and is a by itself a waste of all out times. THis is what we are addressing seems pretty straight forward we are mixed up as you cannot understand basic communication, sorry if I followed that.
[17:41] <Allusoar> but gets the job done, so i find it a solution not an excuse
[17:41] <SouL> joakim_: sorry sorry. Yes, Thanks for helping me out. It's just I'm trying to get this since a lot of time and all I found is old or you have to be a mega computer engineer to use it :(
[17:41] <xxneolithicxx> Joseph_: did you install conflicting kernel meta packages at any point?
[17:41] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: It's an excuse. As-is minecraft. ;)
[17:41] <usr13> Joseph_: See line 14
[17:42] <usr13> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[17:42] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: that should not prevent him from installing other stuff in most cases
[17:42] <Allusoar> its not an excuse, have you tried running a minecraft on a distro other than ubuntu server?
[17:43] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: See lines 10 - 13
[17:43] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: i saw them
[17:44] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: Ok, if you have any further advise, tell Joseph_
[17:44] <xxneolithicxx> autoremoves are a recommendation but should not prevent you from installing, the real issue is the errors thrown by runparts leaving the packages unconfigured
[17:45] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: Did you also see lines 102-108?
[17:45] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:45] <Joseph_> same
[17:45] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:45] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: exactly why i asked Joseph_ if he had changed or modified the kernel meta packages installed at any point
[17:47] <joakim_> Soul: Yeah,,,Im no mega computer engineer to but Multiseat would be fantastic.. But in real life it's more simble with different computers and so on. ..But it's definitely possible and doable
[17:47] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: because I want my server headless most of the time but to be able to jump into the desktop when I need to
[17:48] <xxneolithicxx> *manually
[17:48] <Allusoar> It looks to me like you broke an update and tried to autoremove the packages. I did this a couple days ago. Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then use "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[17:48] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: A server you should never /need/ to use X. If you do, you're doing it wrong.
[17:48] <Beldar> Allusoar, Try to preface with nicks, a broken upgrade might need a a apt-get -f install
[17:48] <Allusoar> if it gets it done your not doing it wrong
[17:49] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: lol everybody is "doing it wrong" according to somebody
[17:49] <usr13> Joseph_: df
[17:49] <Allusoar> no because the system still thinks its upgrading and the lock will not let you run "apt-get install -f"
[17:49] <joakim_> Soul: You and me  is just gonna wait for a solution for that problem cause people are looking in to it. But it is a matter of hardware and components to
[17:50] <Beldar> !who | Allusoar
[17:50] <Allusoar> k
[17:51] <Beldar> Allusoar, The sudo dpkg --configure -a may unlock, than if a broken install apt-get -f upgrade is needed at times. Hard to to follow your help as you are not using nicks.
[17:51] <SouL> joakim_: Yes! I bought a great computer for sharing it with my family (to don't waste more money on more computers) because I though I could make it multiseat
[17:52] <Allusoar> Beldar: the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" will unlock it and try to continue the update, will fail, remove the lock, then all you have to do is "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" again.
[17:52] <Semen_Dickman> hi
[17:52] <Semen_Dickman> how much for ubuntu?
[17:52] <eeee> $0
[17:53] <Joseph_> yes
[17:53] <Joseph_> seems again i run the same command
[17:53] <Joseph_> get same :)
[17:53] <Semen_Dickman> i do this on ubuntu and i get error...wtf to do?
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> no no what i actually meant was
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which one is better? ubuntu or windows 8?
[17:54] <bazhang> !ot
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> !ot
[17:54] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which one is better? ubuntu or windows 8?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Linux
[17:54] <bazhang> thats offtopic here
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which linux?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Any
[17:54] <Allusoar> joseph_: this is your pastebin right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> why not windows...?
[17:55] <MavKen> Semen_Dickman, I left win 8 for xubuntu... first timde using linux
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Windows sucks. Off-topic. Pick a new topic. DO you have any Ubuntu questions?
[17:55] <MavKen> I'll never go back to windows
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> why ? please tell me bra
[17:55] <xv247> hello
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> not fast?
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Troll elsewhere.
[17:55] <TJ-> !ot | Semen_Dickman
[17:55] <Joseph_> yes
[17:55] <Allusoar> joseph_: if it is your pastebin use "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" and "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and do the update and upgrade.
[17:56] <MavKen> can I pm you Semen_Dickman
[17:56] <Semen_Dickman> please bra
[17:56] <Joseph_> ok
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Troll elsewhere.
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> Sweet.
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> Arigatou gouzimasu Pici-san!
[17:57] <Beldar> Allusoar, Sure, however since you had not been using nicks it was a matter of searching the channel and trying to figure out if the help you were giving was the best. That was my only concern, we help and watch each other here for best help results.
[17:58] <mozzarella> will ubuntu replace nautilus?
[17:58] <mozzarella> in the next release
[17:58] <cyrildz> Hello all
[17:58] <Beldar> mozzarella, with what?
[17:58] <Allusoar> Beldar: What?
[17:58] <xxneolithicxx> mozzarella: didnt they already for an older version
[17:58] <mozzarella> Beldar: with a new file manager of their own?
[17:58] <xxneolithicxx> *fork
[17:58] <cyrildz> I have some question about ubuntu SoundMenu
[17:59] <Beldar> mozzarella, Like what, and what makes you think they are?
[17:59] <xxneolithicxx> mozzarella: or at least pin to an older version
[17:59] <dirkc> I'm struggling with UFW, is this the place to ask?
[17:59] <mozzarella> Beldar: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4OTY
[17:59] <Joseph_> still going on
[17:59] <Joseph_> we wold wait for few minutes
[17:59] <Allusoar> Joseph_: What was the output of the commands?
[18:00] <Beldar> mozzarella, This is support ask canonical we are not canonical.
[18:00] <Joseph_> i run the two command
[18:00] <Joseph_> no error
[18:00] <Joseph_> then  update
[18:00] <Beldar> !who | Joseph_
[18:01] <Beldar> Joseph_, besides prefacing with nicks lay off the enter.
[18:01] <lsd_> close
[18:01] <Joseph_> :)
[18:02] <Allusoar> Joseph_: did the update and upgrade work?
[18:02] <cyrildz> I have implemented for my App the mpris2 specs , I can see the interfaces present on the session Bus through qdbusviewer. But I can't see my App listed in the soundmenu. what should I add in my code to have it shown in the soundmenu?   As a test, I also did a notification  class to send notifactions through Dbus and it works
[18:04] <Joseph_> still upgrade going on
[18:05] <eeee> clear
[18:06] <Joseph_> same issues
[18:06] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815577/
[18:07] <Joseph_> :)
[18:07] <Beldar> Joseph_, Can you compact your posts please it is easier for the channel and your help. Think before just hitting the enter please. ;)
[18:07] <OerHeks> Joseph_, why do you have a mix of ARM kernels and normal intel kernels ?
[18:08] <Joseph_> any way to remove ?
[18:08] <Joseph_> ARM
[18:09] <OerHeks> Joseph_, remove the 'signed kernels' i guess
[18:09] <Allusoar> when removing use "sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>"
[18:10] <Joseph_> any option to set default setting
[18:10] <Allusoar> Joseph_: Try "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"
[18:11] <Joseph_> Ok
[18:12] <MavKen> is apt-get clean like apt-get autoremove?
[18:12] <TJ-> MavKen: no
[18:13] <Allusoar> MavKen: its the same but removes all packages from the cache
[18:13] <TJ-> MavKen: autoremove removes installed packages that are no longer depended on by any other package, and aren't marked "Essential" or "Priority: required"
[18:13] <MavKen> oh ok
[18:13] <Joseph_> bad time for me :)
[18:14] <Joseph_> same message
[18:14] <Joseph_> :)
[18:15] <MavKen> I run "apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y && apt-get autoremove -y" once per day on laptop and server
[18:15] <MavKen> one day ill install unattended upgrades
[18:16] <dirkc> I can't seem to simply block http traffic, I run 'ufw deny 80' but traffic still goes through
[18:16] <Allusoar> Joseph_: What version are you on again?
[18:17] <Joseph_> 14.04
[18:17] <Joseph_> i guess final option format :)
[18:18] <Allusoar> Joseph_: do you have synaptic
[18:18] <Joseph_> if need i would install
[18:18] <Joseph_> only apt-get
[18:18] <Allusoar> Joseph_: Try sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[18:19] <Joseph_> done
[18:19] <Allusoar> type sudo synaptic
[18:19] <Joseph_> done going on :)
[18:20] <Allusoar> Joseph_: with synaptic open goto edit and hit fix broken packages
[18:20] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815627/
[18:21] <Allusoar> Joseph_: with synaptic open goto edit and hit fix broken packages, it should automaticly fix dep problems.
[18:21] <Joseph_> let me try
[18:21] <Joseph_> this is server
[18:21] <Joseph_> no GUI
[18:22] <Allusoar> try sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[18:23] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:23] <Allusoar> one sec firefox desided to freeze on me
[18:23] <daftykins> Joseph_: have you run "apt-get clean" and "apt-get -f install" yet ?
[18:24] <Allusoar> yeah we already did that
[18:24] <daftykins> was there a pastebin of it?
[18:24] <Allusoar> we have tried almost everything so far
[18:24] <Joseph_> Yes
[18:24] <Allusoar> his pastebin is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:24] <daftykins> Allusoar: not of the commands i said... else i wouldn't have asked
[18:24] <daftykins> Joseph_: please pastebin the above
[18:25] <Allusoar> i had that problem many times before and all the fixes that work for me arent working for him
[18:25] <daftykins> well, installing synaptic was sure as hell not an answer :)
[18:25] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[18:25] <Allusoar> guys what is the command to get running process id's
[18:25] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:25] <daftykins> Allusoar: ps -ef
[18:25] <Pici> Allusoar: ps aux
[18:26] <Allusoar> thanks
[18:26] <daftykins> Joseph_: that's the same ID
[18:26] <Allusoar> firefox is still "running"
[18:26] <daftykins> Joseph_: paste fail? :)
[18:26] <daftykins> Allusoar: if you're asking a question please phrase one
[18:26] <Allusoar> dafty: are you a bot?
[18:26] <Joseph_> do we need new ?
[18:27] <daftykins> Joseph_: i asked you to run "apt-get clean" then "apt-get -f install".
[18:27] <daftykins> Allusoar: what makes you ask something so daft?
[18:28] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815676/
[18:29] <Allusoar> dafty: well you said phrase a question if im asking one, I was just giving output to the answer you gave me, I wasnt phrasing a question
[18:29] <A1Recon> I would like some advice for buying a Bluetooth Headsets.... Has anyone heard of those Hybrid Wired/Wireless Bluetooth Headsets? I drive a bike and wear a helmet so.....  I want to use it for PC and Android smartphone at the same time? But I wonder if the headsets have enough audio clarity...
[18:30] <daftykins> Allusoar: right but i don't know what your issue is, so telling me firefox is still running is about as useless as a chocolate teapot :)
[18:30] <daftykins> *useful
[18:30] <daftykins> Joseph_: so what's the story with your system? what were you doing before it got into this state?
[18:30] <laspahr> hmm.. anyone use pidgin? I'm just now getting it started up, after fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04
[18:30] <Allusoar> dafty: you dont have to state or "phrase" a question to let people know there is a problem
[18:30] <blz> Hello!  How can I set a audio device (card 1, device 7 in `sudo aplay -l`) to be the default audio device?  This is under ubuntu server 14.04
[18:31] <daftykins> Allusoar: this is a support channel. i cannot read minds, phrase a question for someone to answer please :)
[18:31] <Joseph_> its open stack compute
[18:31] <Joseph_> its working well
[18:31] <Allusoar> Is daftykins a bot? I cant tell.
[18:31] <Pici> Allusoar: no.
[18:31] <Allusoar> Im so confused.
[18:31] <getseclectic> how can i tell what dns server dnsmasq is using? i'm having trouble getting my dns to work properly on my work vpn
[18:31] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[18:31] <blz> Allusoar, seeing as how he makes typographical errors, I'm going to go with "no"
[18:32] <laspahr> eeee: I got Ubuntu fresh install on.. have *most* of my files, Idk if any got lost
[18:32] <laspahr> but stuff isn't installed how I had them or anything... /:
[18:32] <Joseph_> suddenly not working , suddenly i try to install  nova
[18:32] <Allusoar> well there are AI bots designed to make those errors to be more human like, Iv coded one before..
[18:32] <daftykins> Joseph_: no, looks like one pretty broken setup you've got there.
[18:32] <getseclectic> i found 'nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4.DNS.' somewhere but i dunno if it's right
[18:32] <daftykins> Allusoar: please either get back on topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:32] <eeee> laspahr: congrats :)
[18:33] <laspahr> also, is there a command I can run to make this not show leave/enter?
[18:33] <Allusoar> daftykins: you got me off topic in the first place, I was trying to help someone and you interupted me.
[18:33] <eeee> laspahr: if you want to get all your packages back (i dont think it includes the ppa's, which is what you want though right?) you can.
[18:33]  * daftykins glances at Pici and rolls his eyes
[18:33] <eeee> laspahr: you did do the dpkg --get-selections > .... before the installation right ?
[18:33] <A1Recon> oops wrong chat room sorry
[18:33] <A1Recon> so sorry
[18:34] <laspahr> eeee: yes I did that, but idk that it did any good.. idk what to do with it
[18:34] <Pici> Lets just move on then, and get back to real support :)
[18:34] <Joseph_> any other way to fix ?
[18:34] <MajorTom> hello
[18:34] <laspahr> what's the IRC command to hide enter/leave alerts?
[18:34] <Allusoar> anyways I came originaly to ask how do I add startup sounds and login/logout sounds for ubuntu studio?
[18:34] <Pici> !quietirc | laspahr
[18:34] <Joseph_> somthing kernel level
[18:35] <OerHeks> laspahr, depens on the client
[18:35] <OerHeks> *depends
[18:35] <laspahr> ah thx
[18:35] <MajorTom> excuse me,,,,can I ask you a thing?
[18:35] <eeee> laspahr: are you on xchat2?
[18:35] <laspahr> pidgin
[18:36] <laspahr> I would use hexchat, which is what I had installed, but idk if I wanna go through the hassle of it again
[18:36] <Allusoar> o.o
[18:36] <MajorTom> ...
[18:36] <Allusoar> what.. just.. happened
[18:36] <Pici> MajorTom: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[18:36] <Pici> !netsplit
[18:36] <MajorTom> uh ok thanks Pici
[18:36] <eeee> laspahr: check the settings > text events > join / part /quit ..etc.
[18:36] <eeee> (something like that)
[18:36] <MajorTom> I'm using Lubuntu....and xchat
[18:37] <laspahr> found it aha
[18:37] <laspahr> think it worked
[18:37] <laspahr> now... idk if I like this or how I had it b4 better...
[18:37] <moultonl> Anyone know how to install a particular version of java form the webupd8 repo?  I'm trying to get 1.6 v33
[18:37] <MajorTom> I can't connect to a certain irc network using xchat nor usinf firefox
[18:37] <MajorTom> and I can't unfderstand why!
[18:37] <eeee> MajorTom: does it use ssl ?
[18:38] <eeee> MajorTom:  you need to add "+" before the port if so..
[18:38] <MajorTom> no that I know...
[18:38] <daftykins> moultonl: it tends to be filled with auto downloaders so i think it's intended for latest versions only (which is wise given java's many security issues). however, it's also a PPA so we cannot support it here
[18:38] <bprompt> MajorTom:   try another ports maybe
[18:38] <MajorTom> the strange things is that I can't connect to their website using firefox too
[18:38] <Allusoar> does anyone know when skype will get updated for linux? caught up with windows?
[18:39] <bprompt> MajorTom:    they also might be down for  a bit, and that happens
[18:39] <daftykins> Allusoar: third party software is off topic here.
[18:39] <MajorTom> I thought it too...but I can conenct using another computer
[18:39] <laspahr> okay, just getting things figured out again.. heh
[18:39] <laspahr> I think I got this to autojoin
[18:39] <laspahr> and login and whatnot
[18:39] <bprompt> MajorTom:   try another ports maybe
[18:39] <MajorTom> so I uninstalled my browser and installet it again
[18:39] <MajorTom> ok I will try thanks
[18:39] <Allusoar> daftykins: sorry I just thought my question was a question, my bad
[18:40] <laspahr> eeee: is there a way I can get all my stuff reinstalled? or no? /:
[18:41] <MajorTom> Allusor...I think they will put it on repositories at the next realese
[18:41] <eeee> laspahr: it's as simple as dpkg --set-selections /path/to/packages
[18:41] <Allusoar> laspahr: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall *" might work
[18:42] <laspahr> ah.. okay thanks eeee!
[18:42] <MajorTom> ok folks I return beating my head on the wall^^
[18:42] <Allusoar> laspahr: im not eeee..
[18:42] <MajorTom> see you and thanks everybpdy
[18:42] <eeee> Allusoar: that's not what's going on here..
[18:43] <Allusoar> eeee: please excuse me while I reassemble my mind as it has been blown
[18:44] <laspahr> lol
[18:44] <eeee> Allusoar: what's up, why's it blown
[18:44] <laspahr> dang, why is it showing join/leaves still? ._.
[18:44] <Allusoar> eeee: brain needs to reboot, give it a sec
[18:44] <shekhu> thanks eeee, the meeting got over. The client said the file is not really required
[18:45] <eeee> shekhu: hehe that's good
[18:45] <shekhu> I'll hang around in this IRC more from now. Will only learn :D
[18:46] <eeee> yeah it's a good place
[18:46] <daftykins> as long as you stick to policy we'll get on famously \o/
[18:47] <shekhu> I dont know if I have enough knowledge to contribute but will only learn :D
[18:49] <laspahr> hmmm.. would it be worth it to make a new user on Ubuntu?
[18:52] <getseclectic> anyone know how to debug networkmanager/dnsmasq?
[18:52] <daftykins> getseclectic: what's happening?
[18:53] <getseclectic> it seems like it isn't using my dns settings from my vpn config
[18:53] <getseclectic> i changed the ipv4 settings to addresses only and specified a dns server, but it isn't using it
[18:54] <Kireji> in the past when I've rebooted my server, sometime when there is a Loong wait before it comes back up, people have told me it's doing some kind of disk checking.  particularly bad when it's been a long time since last reboot.  Is there a way I can do whatever disk checks before I reboot so the long wait doesn't happen?
[18:54] <Kireji> by long I mean 20-30 minutes
[18:55] <getseclectic> it works fine if i have it set to route everything through the vpn, but not when i disable that
[18:55] <getseclectic> i added some static routes and everything seems to be working fine except dns
[18:55] <daftykins> getseclectic: confirm the active DNS server via nslookup ?
[18:56] <getseclectic> you mean which server i'm using?
[18:56] <getseclectic> it's always 127 because it's going through dnsmasq
[18:56] <daftykins> getseclectic: haha, yes that's what my sentence says
[18:56] <daftykins> ah :/ i disable that junk
[18:57] <getseclectic> yeah i'm starting to think i should
[18:57] <getseclectic> if i stick the name server in resolv.conf it works fine
[18:57] <daftykins> sorry i didn't realise it did that
[19:03] <laspahr> eeee: that command didn't work
[19:03] <eeee> laspahr: what was the error
[19:04] <laspahr> dpkg: error: --set-selections takes no arguments
[19:06] <Guest34975> hi hi
[19:06] <Guest34975> anybody here??
[19:06] <braveleg> Hi everybody.
[19:06] <braveleg> I got a problem with my laptop.
[19:07] <eeee> laspahr: dpkg --set-selections < /path/to/packages
[19:07] <eeee> sorry
[19:07] <braveleg> lenovo g510
[19:08] <Guest34975> wats the singapore channel?/
[19:08] <laspahr> eeee: dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[19:08] <braveleg> I've installed ubuntu 14 on it and then tried to install additional amd drivers
[19:08] <laspahr> tried it w/ sudo but it just gave me a new line after
[19:08] <laspahr> so did it work?
[19:08] <braveleg> Installation was succesfull, though after reloading the system didn't manage to enter graphic mode
[19:09] <OerHeks> !sg
[19:09] <boakill> need help with terminial settings, CTRL+C no longer cancels processes. How do I change it back/
[19:09] <eeee> laspahr: i think so, you have to run a couple commands now
[19:09] <laspahr> eeee: like?
[19:09] <OerHeks> Guest34975, #ubuntu-sg >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingaporeTeam
[19:10] <braveleg> Could anybody give a hint how can I return to default drivers?
[19:10] <braveleg> Via console.
[19:10] <blz> Why does apt-get try to install a full-fledged desktop environment when I try to install nvidia-319?  Is there a way to *just* get the drivers?  I'm installing nvidia-319 vdpauinfo & libvdpau1
[19:10] <eeee> laspahr: run sudo apt-get -y update
[19:10] <daftykins> braveleg: drives for what?
[19:11] <Guest51457> how can i remove registered vga devices without using terminal? i can only modify files (liveusb)
[19:11] <Joseph_> Hi
[19:11] <eeee> laspahr: then run sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[19:11] <daftykins> blz: more to the point why didn't you just use xbmcbuntu instead of going through all this.
[19:11] <braveleg> graphic card
[19:11] <Joseph_> seems sudo aptitude update  is working
[19:11] <daftykins> braveleg: what kind and what did you install?
[19:11] <Joseph_> it will help us ?
[19:11] <blz> daftykins, because I needed the expert-install mode to set up RAID
[19:11] <blz> daftykins, and the expert-mode install doesn't work/isn't supported in xbmcbuntu
[19:11] <Joseph_> sudo aptitude update is working
[19:12] <braveleg> I found "Additional drivers" icon in applications list and then chosed "Proprietary drivers" for graphic card. Is that what did you asked about?
[19:13] <laspahr> eeee: it's saying between 1h 30m to 2h...
[19:13] <laspahr> screw slow wifi
[19:13] <daftykins> braveleg: yes but i still need to know what *kind* of card you have to know whether it was nvidia or fglrx you were offered
[19:13] <RavinduL> Guys, I am using the 'try ubuntu' option on my laptop before installing the OS itself, and I noticed that the webcam isn't usable although it is detected. The webcam is a Bisoncam NB Pro. Do any of you know how to fix this?
[19:14] <boakill> how to i make console set ctrl+c to cancel
[19:15] <RavinduL> Guys, I am using the 'try ubuntu' option on my laptop before installing the OS itself, and I noticed that the webcam isn't usable although it is detected. The webcam is a Bisoncam NB Pro. Do any of you know how to fix this?
[19:15] <braveleg> Ah, right. I have AMD Radeon R7.
[19:15] <braveleg> And was offered fglrx.
[19:15] <OerHeks> boakill, how did you disable it?
[19:15] <anddam> hi, I'm trying to update a edubuntu 13.04 to latest ubuntu, Software Updater reports "Failed download latest repository" "Check your internet connection"
[19:15] <daftykins> RavinduL: please do not repeat yourself
[19:16] <braveleg> lspci console command, by the way, didn't even detect it. I guess it might be related.
[19:16] <anddam> I don't have any further info, where can I get those?
[19:16] <daftykins> !eol | anddam Follow the last link here
[19:16] <RavinduL> oops, im sorry, but will anyone help me?
[19:16] <blz> RavinduL, how are you trying to use it?
[19:17] <RavinduL> blz, what do you mean by how? I'm  trying to use a webcam...
[19:18] <RavinduL> blz, the hardware gets detected but I don't see an image.
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what process are you going through in your attempt to capture an image?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what program are you using?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what settings are set?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, etc
[19:18] <laspahr> eeee: ~1hr now .-.
[19:19] <RavinduL> Cheese webcam booth. And as mentioned before, the webcam is one that came with my laptop.
[19:19] <RavinduL> Not seperate hardware.
[19:19] <RavinduL> blz, what do you mean by settings?
[19:19] <blz> RavinduL, can you launch cheese from the command line and tell us if any error messages appear?
[19:19] <RavinduL> Nope. sudo cheese and cheese both work perfectly.
[19:19] <blz> RavinduL, so log messages at all?
[19:19] <anddam> daftykins: confirmed it's EOL, reading how to upgrade now
[19:20] <blz> *no
[19:20] <eeee> laspahr: yeah it's upgrading everything
[19:20] <RavinduL> blz, nope.
[19:20] <blz> RavinduL, in the cheese preferences, can you check that your webcam is selected?
[19:20] <laspahr> eeee: slow wifi sucks...
[19:20] <RavinduL> blz, it is.