[00:02] <caliculk> Is there anyway to find or grab libstdc++6-4.9 > on Ubuntu 14.04? It seems the latest version is 4.8 which is causing a conflict since something I need to install uses that.
[00:03] <scott606> Bashing-om ?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> scott606: 4 primary partitions is all one can have in the MBR partitioning scheme . Show us in a pastebin what is now present ' sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit ' .
[00:06] <scott606> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180014/
[00:06] <Bashing-om> scott606: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180014/ .
[00:06] <scott606> Its not even showing sda
[00:08] <ObrienDave> show us the command you used to get that
[00:08] <Bashing-om> scott606: Yeah ... UNgood for the home team . Does bios see that internel (sda) drive ?
[00:08] <scott606> How do i check?
[00:09] <scott606> gparted sees it but says its unallocated
[00:09] <Bashing-om> scott606: ObrienDave has a good point . show us the command you used to get the 'fdisk' output .
[00:10] <OerHeks> maybe describe the machine, windows 10, uefi ?
[00:10] <scott606> wait what
[00:10] <scott606> the error?
[00:10] <ObrienDave> the command. you showed us the output
[00:10] <scott606> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit
[00:10] <scott606> the one you gave me?
[00:13] <ObrienDave> is sdb an USB stick?
[00:13] <scott606> yeah its the live usb that im currently booted into
[00:14] <ObrienDave> what file system is sda?
[00:15] <ObrienDave> supposed to be?
[00:15] <scott606> its got nothing on it
[00:16] <scott606> my hd went bad .. pulled this one out of the drawer and booted from a live usb to install xubuntu on it .. got as far as pulling up gparted and seeing it says unallocated .. clicking create partition table .. and getting the error
[00:16] <scott606> Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sda: Input/output error
[00:16] <ObrienDave> could be another bad drive
[00:16] <scott606> is there a way to jog it back to life lol?
[00:17] <ObrienDave> only with a low-level formatter, afaik
[00:17] <scott606> is that something i can install on this xubuntu live stick?
[00:18] <ObrienDave> i'm not sure what package would do that. usually done with a program supplied by the drive manufacturer
[00:19] <scott606> I see
[00:20] <ObrienDave> you can usually find such utilities on the manufacturers website. could not tell you if there's a linux version
[00:21] <squinty> scott606,  might be an idea to check your connectors   should be two  one for data and the other for power.   also, some drive manufacturers had testing software available at their support web sites.
[00:23] <OerHeks> normally one would go into the bios, after adding a HDD.
[00:23] <OerHeks> maybe the drive is oke, just installing is the issue
[00:24] <OerHeks> (maybe the bios has the old hdd as data too)
[00:24] <ObrienDave> is it's a SATA drive, no BIOS tweaking is necessary. if not, yes, you must tweak the BIOS
[00:24] <OerHeks> just in, save & out
[00:25] <ObrienDave> *If it's
[00:25] <pigeon-> hi.... i'm having problems with firefox.   Is it OKEE if I re-install the firefox web brower from the uBuntu Sofeware Center ?   Second question:  Should I also install the firefox launchpad  plugin from the uBuntu software center ?    and 3rd question:  should I install the uBuntu extension for firefox??  thanks
[00:25] <ObrienDave> yes to all
[00:26] <pigeon-> thanks Obrien Dave....  Anything else I should do?   The main problem with firefox was that if occassionally  "freeze"  on me which is bugging me
[00:27] <ObrienDave> such things, while annoying, are to be expected
[00:28] <pigeon-> ok, thanks... I will try re-Installing the 3 packages
[00:31] <cluelessperson_> hey guys, I'm trying to programmatically turn on/off my keyboard backlight.  I'm ABLE to turn it OFF with ...
[00:31] <cluelessperson_> echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/leds/tpacpi::thinklight/brightness
[00:31] <cluelessperson_> but 255 to turn it on doesn't work, nor 1, 2
[00:32] <fantasma> oi
[00:32] <OerHeks> cluelessperson_, then boot again, and read the value of /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/leds/tpacpi::thinklight/brightness before you changed it?
[00:33] <cluelessperson_> OerHeks: I believe it was 0 ?
[00:33] <cluelessperson_> OerHeks: I think it was 0 with the keyboard backlight on as well
[00:34] <OerHeks> cluelessperson_, sorry, that makes no sense. making it 0 turns it off, but it was 0 before that ?
[00:34] <dimitry7> Hi there, how can I find words with more than 3 letters 'p' in them?
[00:35] <cluelessperson_> OerHeks: it does make sense.  Maybe the driver writes the value to the bios and keeps the value in the file 0.  I turned the keyboard on now and it remains 0.  I echo 0 > brightness and it turns it off again.
[00:35] <cluelessperson_> dimitry7: regex.
[00:36] <cluelessperson_> [p.+]{3}
[00:40] <dimitry7> cluelessperson_, thank yuy!!
[00:41] <cluelessperson_> dimitry7:  [p.*]{3} rather.
[00:43] <dimitry7> cluelessperson_, okok, let me try
[00:45] <dimitry7> cluelessperson_, won't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180376/
[00:46] <pigeon-> hi ObrienDave...  I"ve reinstalled the 3 packages for firefox, and that don"t seem to solve my problems.   I'm thinking it could a problem ?? with my drivers ??  of my  graphic video card ?  Is that a possiblility?   If yes,  I"ve seen the drivers in the uBuntu Sofeware Centers for my GEForces 8300 GS (Nividia).   my card is 7 years old (purchased in 2008).   Your comments please
[00:47] <ObrienDave> pigeon-, that seems plausible. i don't use a custom card so i can't help you there
[00:48] <pigeon-> ok thanks anyways obrienDave
[00:49] <ObrienDave> yw
[00:49] <pigeon-> maybe someone else could help me on this one
[00:49] <cluelessperson_> dimitry7: [A\w*]{3,}   try that
[00:51] <dimitry7> cluelessperson_, ok, btw I tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180429/
[00:52] <MDTech-us[phone]> Hello
[00:52] <Jon30> hey guys, does ubuntu 15 run well on a convertible laptop? it's dell xps 12, basically when i switch to tablet mode, is it going to be usable?
[00:52] <dimitry7> cluelessperson_, cat testrep |grep '[A\w*]{3,}', no results either
[00:54] <MDTech-us[phone]> I am trying to install ubuntu on a custom pc with Z77 Extreme4 mobo. When I start the install disc, I don't have internet
[00:54] <TikityTik> I'm having issues with vnstat daemon not updating
[00:54] <MDTech-us[phone]> what's wrong?
[00:55] <TikityTik> the numbers are not updating
[00:55] <TikityTik> actually, it updates very slowly
[00:55] <TikityTik> why is this the case?
[00:55] <MDTech-us[phone]> dmesg says link is down
[00:58] <MDTech-us[phone]> it keeps coming on and off
[00:58] <Ev0luti0n_> Hey folks. Anybody here uses riseup.net's services? Whats your opinion on them?
[01:02] <snoop_doge> what are the main repos i should have in update manager?
[01:02] <snoop_doge> at present i have none
[01:04] <ObrienDave> all of them, if you like
[01:06] <pigeon-> in regards to the drivers for my video card (nVidia),  I can see 3 different dirvers on the ubuntu sofeward center...  How can I know which one I should select??    If I make the wrong choize,  can I simply try another driver??  I there a possibility I can do damge to my system if I install the wrong one?
[01:08] <ObrienDave> possible, not likely though. most likely wrong driver will not give you the highest resolution settings
[01:08] <pigeon-> okeee
[01:08] <ObrienDave> research is your best friend :)
[01:10] <Tyreal> would anyone happen to know if its possible to network a windows pc and lubuntu pc for file sharing
[01:12] <wileee> !samba | Tyreal Never used myself,
[01:12] <MDTech-us[phone]> I am trying to install ubuntu on a custom pc with Z77 Extreme4 mobo. When I start the install disc, I don't have internet
[01:12] <MDTech-us[phone]> dmesg says link is down
[01:12] <MDTech-us[phone]> it keeps coming on and off
[01:13] <Tyreal> thankyou for the response, i'm looking into pyneiborhood
[01:13] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], This a live de boot?
[01:13] <MDTech-us[phone]> Yea
[01:13] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], Can you get the net at all, like in a browser?
[01:13] <MDTech-us[phone]> no
[01:14] <MDTech-us[phone]> oh wait
[01:14] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], Are you ethos plugged?
[01:14] <MDTech-us[phone]> I can usb tether my phone
[01:14] <MDTech-us[phone]> but other than that no
[01:15] <MDTech-us[phone]> all cables are connected and work fine in windows
[01:15] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], It will pull some data on an install, but I would do that or we can look at the wifi.
[01:15] <MDTech-us[phone]> its a desktop, so no wifi there
[01:16] <MDTech-us[phone]> I actually use my phone wifi connection for the tether
[01:16] <MDTech-us[phone]> not mobile data
[01:17] <MDTech-us[phone]> yup. Disconnected tether and no internet
[01:17] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], be careful here your not familiar with the language and what to look for so don't just post random info that makes sense to you. ;)
[01:17] <MDTech-us[phone]> -_-
[01:18] <MDTech-us[phone]> Anyway, what to do?
[01:18] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], Two things at this point, one at a time, can it be hard plugged or can we get wifi up.
[01:18] <MDTech-us[phone]> the pc has no wifi
[01:19] <wileee> we know that
[01:19] <MDTech-us[phone]> ok.... what do I do?
[01:20] <wileee> maybe we can change that or the hard plug, we see the situation, just a command to start with, do you know how ti pastebin?
[01:20] <ObrienDave> tether through phone. it connects like hardwire
[01:20] <MDTech-us[phone]> Yes
[01:20] <MDTech-us[phone]> obviously
[01:21] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], pastebin the output of lspci in the terminal
[01:22] <MDTech-us[phone]> paste.ubuntu.com/12180631
[01:25] <MDTech-us[phone]> wileee: ?
[01:27] <wileee> MDTech-us[phone], This hardware is a bit of an issue I believe Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57781   a quick google I found is 2012 but with the 2nd post and that nick you will find good info, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089521  and by the way this is fre volunteer help, calm down and curb tude.
[01:27] <wileee> I'm done
[01:29] <dreamor> can anyone recommend me a GPLed alternative to Dreamweaver?  I am after a GUI app. The closest app that I could find is Bluefish.
[01:31] <daftykins> http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux
[01:31] <dreamor> will be back in a little while
[01:37] <cluelessperson_> hey guys, is there a command to capture events produced by say, a key combination?
[01:38] <ilk> flash plugin help? anyone? cant get youtube to work
[01:39] <ObrienDave> install pepper flash
[01:40] <loconet> Hello guys, I have a big trouble with my encrypted swap
[01:40] <daftykins> cluelessperson_: what are you actually trying to do?
[01:40] <ObrienDave> loconet, why would you need to do that?
[01:40] <loconet> I can't mount it on the initial boot
[01:41] <loconet> so.... it seems system doesn't recognize the partition
[01:41] <cluelessperson_> daftykins: I'm trying to turn the keyboard backlight on and off programmatically, so far I can only turn it on.  I can also control the power button light (off, on, blink)
[01:41] <daftykins> yawn.
[01:41] <Guest48257> hey guys, i have an internal hdd that i used as storage in my previous pc. ive installed it into my windows pc and am now trying to access some of the files on it. its saying its owned by root and isnt showing any of the files contained in the hdd.
[01:41] <ObrienDave> loconet, so, delete it and recreate it
[01:41] <Guest48257> any help is appreciated
[01:42] <daftykins> Guest48257: are you saying you're reading it from Windows with an EXT driver?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> cluelessperson_: run xev (possibly as root) to see raw xevents as you press keys .
[01:42] <Guest48257> im in the trail version of ubuntu on a usb stick
[01:43] <daftykins> Guest48257: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" then "mount | pastebinit"
[01:44] <Guest48257> ok, ill try that
[01:44] <daftykins> those commands are just to provide me with info
[01:44] <loconet> I made that but when system starts I need to write on the console sudo swapon
[01:44] <Guest48257> oh, ok. sorry, im not super savvy with all this
[01:46] <daftykins> as long as you can follow instructions all is well
[01:46] <cluelessperson_> Bashing-om:  An event is triggered for Fn key, Space key pressed seperately, but if I do Fn+Space, it only shows an event for Fn being pressed
[01:47] <daftykins> Fn functions on laptops are typically system level and not OS
[01:48] <cluelessperson_> Bashing-om: Fn key, 151     Space 65
[01:48] <cluelessperson_> daftykins: yes, but I can do    echo 0 > /sys/something acpi/leds/thinklight::brightness/brightness    and it turns off
[01:48] <cluelessperson_> Bashing-om: ^
[01:49] <Guest48257> ok, next step?
[01:50] <daftykins> Guest48257: those commands produce URLs you need to paste here
[01:51] <Guest48257> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180747/
[01:51] <Guest48257> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180749/
[01:51] <daftykins> ok two flash drives, a 1TB and a 500GB
[01:51] <Guest48257> yes, im trying to access the 1tb
[01:52] <daftykins> Guest48257: ls -al /media/ubuntu/7cc0110f-fac1-4d67-8e48-9aae6ed30906 | pastebinit
[01:52] <ryan_46> Hi. I have tried 3 browsers on my 15.04 to play Hulu movies. All fail. Tried Chromium, Google Chrome and Firefox. What can I do?
[01:53] <ObrienDave> try hulu support?
[01:54] <cluelessperson_> ryan_46: uninstall hulu :P
[01:54] <sbdchd> Hi. I am trying to change the permissions of some files via `sudo chown -R joeshmoe exampledir/` and I am wondering if it is possible to replace joeshmoe with the current user.
[01:54] <ryan_46> HaHa
[01:54] <cluelessperson_> end subscriptions, etc
[01:54] <daftykins> cluelessperson_: don't respond if you're not going to help people
[01:54] <Bashing-om> cluelessperson_: No idea . sorry .
[01:54] <cluelessperson_> ryan_46: sorry for being a dick
[01:54] <daftykins> sbdchd: use sudo chown -R username: /blah/blah
[01:55] <ryan_46> cluelessperson_: No problem.
[01:56] <sbdchd> daftykins: I am wondering if there is a generic variable for the current user so that I can run this command without having to specify the user's actual name
[01:58] <sbdchd> nvm. I found it. It's $USER
[01:58] <Guest48257> was that something that i needed to enter into the terminal? if so what should happen?
[01:58] <sbdchd> <-- being silly
[01:59] <daftykins> Guest48257: another URL to paste.
[02:00] <Guest48257> nothing happened
[02:01] <daftykins> Guest48257: ls -al /media/ubuntu/7cc0110f-fac1-4d67-8e48-9aae6ed30906 | pastebinit
[02:02] <Guest48257> nada
[02:03] <daftykins> Guest48257: df -h | pastebinit
[02:03] <daftykins> it will produce something, so no idea why you're suggesting nothing happened at all
[02:04] <Guest48257> does it need any command in front of that? i hit enter and it just drops down to the next line
[02:05] <daftykins> try "df -h" alone
[02:05] <Guest48257> wait..i see what went wrong
[02:05] <Guest48257> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180847/
[02:07] <daftykins> Guest48257: ok now "cd /media/ubuntu/7cc0110f-fac1-4d67-8e48-9aae6ed30906/home/"
[02:07] <daftykins> "ls" should show your username's home
[02:07] <daftykins> cd into that
[02:07] <daftykins> ls again should show your stuff
[02:07] <delt> Hello
[02:08] <daftykins> lo
[02:08] <delt> i'm trying to disable NFS4 temporarily on one of my servers running ubuntu...
[02:08] <delt> in the /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server i have: RPCMOUNTDOPTS="--manage-gids --no-nfs-version 4"
[02:09] <delt> then after doing "service nfs-kernel-server restart" as root, ps xau still shows me [nfsd4] processes
[02:10] <delt> and clients using v3 can't mount
[02:10] <delt> ps also shows rpc.mountd started as: /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --manage-gids --no-nfs-version 4
[02:10] <delt> ...so, any idea what's going on?
[02:10] <Guest48257> what do you mean by cd into that?
[02:11] <happyfr0g> Hello, any idea why Canonical is dropping the default Software Center?
[02:12] <ObrienDave> cd means Current Directory. selecting which one you want
[02:12] <daftykins> happyfr0g: not a place for policy discussion
[02:12] <bazhang> happyfr0g, mark's blog is a good place to check
[02:13] <Apteryx> Hello! Anybody knows if it's just me or linux virtual terminals are broken with AMD closed source driver?
[02:13] <bazhang> not really on topic here happyfr0g
[02:13] <bazhang> details Apteryx
[02:14] <happyfr0g> bazhang, where is mark's blog you speak of?
[02:14] <bazhang> happyfr0g, check on a search engine
[02:14] <happyfr0g> Lol. Okay.
[02:15] <bazhang> shuttleworth blog happyfr0g
[02:15] <bazhang> first listing
[02:15] <happyfr0g> Thanks.
[02:15] <bazhang> welcome
[02:16] <bazhang> what card, what driver , installed from where Apteryx , what version of ubuntu, what does broken mean here, details
[02:16] <cluelessperson_> hey guys, is there a way to use a list index to enter directories instead of their name?
[02:16] <cluelessperson_> some of these dirs have long names that are annoying to repeated have to copy/paste over
[02:16] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, to do what exactly
[02:17] <cluelessperson_> bazhang:   to cd into...
[02:17] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, into what
[02:17] <cluelessperson_> cd<PHONE_NUMBER>2515432512354154351435435143514545143515325  typing that out is annoying as hell.
[02:17] <cluelessperson_> bazhang: a directory?
[02:17] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, in home in root or what
[02:18] <cluelessperson_> bazhang: anywhere.
[02:18] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, choose, not the same advice
[02:18] <daftykins> why in the hell would you make a path like that to begin with? :P
[02:18] <ObrienDave> TAB complete? ;P
[02:18] <daftykins> and learn to ^ tab complete
[02:18] <bazhang> why we need details
[02:18] <cluelessperson_> HOLY HELL THATS A THING?!
[02:19] <cluelessperson_> Why have I never stumbled across htis before!
[02:19] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, yes
[02:19] <daftykins> i really, really hope you're not serious
[02:19] <cluelessperson_> You can TAB to complete.
[02:19] <cluelessperson_> daftykins: I feel stupid.
[02:19]  * daftykins slow claps
[02:19] <bazhang> !tab | cluelessperson_
[02:19] <daftykins> good, you should :P
[02:19] <cluelessperson_> ubottu: I use it for tab completion for nicks and what not and programming.. didn't know that worked in terminal. ;_;
[02:20] <cluelessperson_> life made so much easier.
[02:20] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, if you mean into root, you should not be messing around there without good reason
[02:20] <bazhang> cluelessperson_, if its home directory there are shortcuts
[02:21] <Guest48257> sorry to sound like a dummy..." "ls" should show your username's home
[02:21] <Guest48257>  " that comes up with "ducky share" in blue after that, you im lost
[02:21] <daftykins> Guest48257: "ls -al | pastebinit" there then and link me
[02:22] <Guest48257> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12180935/
[02:23] <daftykins> Guest48257: those are each individual folders, so perhaps your username was 'ducky' - maybe you'd be better off browsing this folder with the GUI file manager.
[02:23] <daftykins> Guest48257: ideally you need to tell us what you're intending to do on this drive
[02:24] <Guest48257> yeah, ducky was the user name. the gui doesnt show any files in the "ducky" folder. what im trying to do, is grab a few of the files from that hdd before wiping the drive
[02:25] <Guest48257> so if i go to the hdd/media/ducky it shows up with nothing there
[02:26] <daftykins> Guest48257: so try "ls -al ducky/
[02:26] <daftykins> that would have a closing " if i didn't have beer in me
[02:27] <Guest48257> haha, beer is just brain lubricant
[02:27] <daftykins> absolutely!
[02:28] <Guest48257> ok, yeah that opened up a whole mess of text. let me look through for a sec
[02:28] <Hides> I need to know how to completely delete Ubuntu off my laptop hard drive?
[02:28] <bazhang> delete the partition Hides
[02:29] <Hides> How do I do that bazhang
[02:29] <ObrienDave> gparted
[02:29] <daftykins> Hides: is anything else on the disk? what's the reason for murder?
[02:29] <bazhang> Hides, what will replace it
[02:29] <Guest48257> ok, yeah im seeing all the file names and such. is there a way to get into them from here?
[02:29] <daftykins> Guest48257: "nautilus ." might work
[02:30] <bazhang> Hides, is windows going to take over in this scenario
[02:30] <Hides> Yes I need windows for my classes
[02:31] <bazhang> Hides, ask in ##windows on using tools to delete the partition and fixmbr
[02:31] <xtturbo> yeah come to windows ill tell you
[02:34] <kadiro> hello
[02:34] <daftykins> ah the angry frenchman
[02:34] <kadiro> I'm in ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:35] <ObrienDave> ummm, no
[02:35] <bazhang>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic kadiro
[02:35] <kadiro> I know
[02:36] <bazhang> whats the support issue kadiro
[02:36] <daftykins> nah kadiro is a regular troublemaker that gives bad advice
[02:36] <bazhang> daftykins, hold back please
[02:36] <kadiro> yes I'am
[02:36] <bazhang> thats helping nothing
[02:37] <daftykins> ok, just thought i'd let you know so you could do something though
[02:37] <bazhang> yep
[02:37] <kadiro> daftykins: go to #ubuntu-offtopic to speak about anything not related to asking or answering a question
[02:38] <daftykins> very funny
[02:38] <kadiro> !op
[02:38] <bazhang> back to support please
[02:43] <cluelessperson_> yup
[02:49] <gshmu> libsvn1 error: After update libsvn1, My pptp can't saved password, how to revert it?
[02:50] <Guest48257> ok, i got into the hdd, and and it all showed up. then once i tried to open a folder there it said i dont have permission necessary to view the contents
[02:50] <gshmu> pptp svn always can't Export.
[02:50] <Guest48257> all but the one folder i actually want will open and show their contents lol
[02:53] <daftykins> Guest48257: does Alt+F2 bring up a dialogue box, or the dash thing to type something in?
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Guest48257: Open the file manager with 'root' priveledges 'gksudo nautilus' .
[02:54] <daftykins> yeah that ^ :D
[02:54] <daftykins> though you might need to...
[02:54] <daftykins> run "sudo apt-get install gksu"
[02:55] <Guest48257> installing now
[02:55] <Guest48257> thanks a ton for all the help so far
[02:56] <Apteryx> Hello! How do I disable GUI completely at boot? I want to boot on a terminal
[02:57] <Apteryx> I still _do_ want network and other services though
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: What release are you on ? 15.04 differs from earlier .
[02:57] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: 15.04
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Not done it in 15.04, so can not aptly advise .
[03:03] <daftykins> Apteryx: boot with 'text' appended to your kernel boot parameters
[03:04] <ObrienDave> grub-customizer can be your friend
[03:04] <LonelyDanbo> I'm having trouble trying to remap alt and windows keys for gaming. Is it too difficult? It seems like button combinations don't trigger the same as individual key presses.
[03:06] <LonelyDanbo> ah screw it. I'll just pop the keys off, turn my hand position and use the row above. and hope it doesn't give me hand cramps at my age. :P
[03:06] <Ripchord> lol
[03:07] <LonelyDanbo> keyboards were not meant for gaming.
[03:07] <ObrienDave> ya think?
[03:07] <mann3r> yeah
[03:08] <LonelyDanbo> I don't understand why there's been no new standard for PC gaming. There have been a few but I haven't really heard of them taking off.
[03:08] <Ripchord> but to this day, my left middle finger sits on the 'w' key
[03:09] <LonelyDanbo> oh right. WASD.
[03:09] <Ripchord> even when I dont game
[03:09] <Ripchord> Im so brainwashed
[03:09] <LonelyDanbo> WASD is so terrible. your pinkie finger can't hit anything but mostly modifier keys.
[03:10] <LonelyDanbo> no nevermind. capslock can be safely remapped.
[03:10] <Ripchord> then they added hotkeys
[03:10] <LonelyDanbo> I actually moved two keys over, and sometimes more.
[03:11] <LonelyDanbo> It's impossible to have your home keys on the 2nd row from the top, because going up to the number keys is REALLY awkward.
[03:12] <LonelyDanbo> your pointer finger has to cross over your middle finger to go up.
[03:20] <dimitry7> Hello guys! I have installed nvidia packages: apt-get install nvidia-cuda-*. I will use GPU to accelarate my WPA2 decrypt process... is there anything else I need to do for aircrack to take advantage of the GPU? Thanks!
[03:23] <Apteryx> daftykins: thanks, trying it now.
[03:25] <vagrant_> ola pessoal
[03:25] <vagrant_> alguem na sala?
[03:25] <vagrant_> boa noite pessoas
[03:26] <vagrant_> alguem na sala?
[03:26] <vagrant_> \/o/o
[03:27] <daftykins> vagrant_: english
[03:27] <vagrant_> sorry daftykins
[03:28] <vagrant_> i'm from Brazil, and you?
[03:32] <Apteryx> daftykins: didn't work :|
[03:32] <Apteryx> still got the pesky login screen
[03:32] <Apteryx> which for some reason refuse to let my dad in (password is good...)
[03:33] <Apteryx> my idea was to boot to terminal and take a look at dmesg
[03:33] <daftykins> as in you put it after 'quiet splash' ?
[03:33] <Apteryx> (no virtual terminals because of sucky AMD closed source driver)
[03:34] <daftykins> oh, well if you want to boot without X what are you hoping to achieve if you have no TTYs? :P
[03:34] <Apteryx> daftykins: oh right. I'd get the same blank screen? :|
[03:34] <Apteryx> lol
[03:34] <daftykins> lawl
[03:35] <daftykins> boot with nomodeset
[03:35] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[03:35] <Apteryx> ubottu: I'm pretty sure nomodeset is already on, I think the AMD driver would crash if it wasn't
[03:36] <daftykins> that's rubbish
[03:36] <daftykins> and ubottu is a bot.
[03:37] <Apteryx> daftykins: Well, the blob doesn't support modesetting, right? So if it's active, it ought to cause problems to fglrx? At least I thought I remember I had issues like this last time I had to wrestle with it.
[03:38] <daftykins> never seen peeps have issues
[03:38] <daftykins> when you say the password doesn't work, do you really mean it boots you out to the login screen?
[03:39] <Apteryx> I think I remember now... If I tried activating modesetting, the open source driver would be loaded up really early and prevent fglrx from being used.
[03:39] <daftykins> that also sounds wrong
[03:40] <daftykins> anyhow, can't solve imaginary scenarios :)
[03:42] <Apteryx> daftykins: it doesn't say the password is bad; my guess is that it crashes trying to initialize Xorg or some X component... But without access to the logs I can only guess.
[03:42] <daftykins> i think you're ruining this one with assumption
[03:43] <Apteryx> daftykins: Well I can try it on my on machine, entering a bad password. I'm pretty sure there is some kind of message telling me password failed.
[03:44] <daftykins> no that's not even vaguely comparable
[03:44] <daftykins> test the guest session
[03:55] <radiel892> hi, i am having trouble getting swap mounted, system 14.04 broken encrypted swap, i am just trying to get it working without encryption for now
[03:57] <EriC^^> radiel892: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: morning EriC^^ :p
[03:57] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje :p
[03:59] <radiel892> Eric^^: http://termbin.com/bdv0
[04:00] <biella> ok
[04:00] <daftykins> biella: ok
[04:00] <radiel892> Eric^^: swapon -a works from rescue mode, but when i boot the system it shows the loading dots and gets stuck there
[04:01] <biella> ok
[04:02] <EriC^^> radiel892: type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:04] <radiel892> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0yx0  ,and /etc/crypttab is commented
[04:07] <EriC^^> radiel892: when it gets stuck, try pressing esc and it should say what it's stuck on
[04:08] <radiel892> EriC^^: ok, i'll try that now
[04:12] <radiel892> EriC^^, i press esc and the 5 dots go red, then i press esc again and the ubuntu logo appears above the red dots, no text shows
[04:13] <EriC^^> radiel892: ok, try booting without quiet splash in the kernel line
[04:16] <radiel892> EriC^^, do i just erase "quiet splash" from the boot line in grub or do i just erase "quiet"
[04:16] <EriC^^> radiel892: erase quiet splash
[04:18] <radiel892> EriC^^, without quiet splash, the system boots now :> ?
[04:18] <radiel892> and gets to login screen
[04:18] <EriC^^> heh :D
[04:20] <radiel892> EriC^^, i wonder why that is, i can't login as guest it just bounces back to login screen
[04:21] <EriC^^> radiel892: maybe it's a graphics driver problem
[04:21] <radiel892> (i havn't been given the password to the main account, it makes things harder to fix)
[04:22] <radiel892> EriC^^, perhaps, the last thing i did before it broke the swap was installed nvidia driver from apt
[04:22] <EriC^^> try to remove it and install the one it had
[04:23] <radiel892> system crashes with novaue(spelling)
[04:23] <dad> kjlk
[04:23] <EriC^^> radiel892: try a different driver maybe
[04:24] <EriC^^> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices , should list the recommended ones
[04:24] <EriC^^> is the kernel up to date?
[04:30] <radiel892> EriC^^, 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
[04:32] <EriC^^> radiel892: are you using vivid? 15.04?
[04:34] <vickycq> Hello. What is the equivlent command of 'startxfce4' in Unity?
[04:35] <EriC^^> vickycq: unity uses lightdm to launch
[04:35] <vickycq> What is the command to directly start a xsession with unity in tty textmode?
[04:35] <EriC^^> why do you ask?
[04:35] <radiel892> EriC^^, its ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso to install the system, the ubuntu-drivers devices is http://termbin.com/mt3p
[04:36] <radiel892> EriC^^, i tried nvidia-340
[04:42] <EriC^^> radiel892: try 340-updates or 304 maybe
[04:42] <radiel892> EriC^^, ok ^^, thanks for your help :)
[04:42] <EriC^^> radiel892: no problem :)
[04:45] <radiel892> should i clear the old driver away with dpkg -r before i install the new one :>
[04:45] <EriC^^> yes, type sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[04:56] <researcher123> hello everybody
[04:57] <alexbucuresti> hi
[04:58] <researcher123> I want to copy all Ubuntu installed programs on new laptop and dont want to waste time in downloading and fresh installatios. Whats the way out?
[04:58] <auk> researcher123: probably a kickstart file
[04:58] <researcher123> auk: I have completely installed programs on my desktop PC
[04:59] <SuperLag> researcher123: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:59] <SuperLag> researcher123: all the packages you download are stored there.
[05:00] <ObrienDave> unless you have used auto-remove
[05:00] <researcher123> SuperLag: OK. Thanks. Can I install from  /var/cache/apt/archives/ freshly on new laptop?
[05:00] <SuperLag> researcher123: and do a search for --get-selections and --set-selections. I don't remember the exact format, but they're arguments to dpkg
[05:01] <SuperLag> researcher123: copying those file into the same location on your new laptop... that'll keep you from having to download over again
[05:01] <researcher123> SuperLag: ok
[05:02] <SuperLag> researcher123: but you still need to get info about what packages you have installed
[05:02] <researcher123> SuperLag: I know what packages I have installed
[05:03] <SuperLag> researcher123: do not take my word for it... but I believe you do "dpkg --get-selections > my_package_list" then on your target machine "dpkg --set-selections < my_package_list"
[05:03] <SuperLag> researcher123: you may think you remember everything... but unless you've written it all down, I wouldn't trust your memory :)
[05:04] <researcher123> SuperLag: After the comand this was the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/12181407/
[05:04] <ObrienDave> look into aptoncd
[05:04] <SuperLag> researcher123: no, you misunderstood
[05:04] <ObrienDave> !aptoncd
[05:05] <researcher123> SuperLag: Im a newbie
[05:05] <SuperLag> researcher123: dpkg --get-selections > my_package_list (I think)
[05:05] <researcher123> SuperLag: What about AptOnCD
[05:06] <SuperLag> researcher123: no clue, not familiar with it
[05:06] <auk> ooh, nice
[05:06] <researcher123> SuperLag: ok.Thanks
[05:06] <SuperLag> ObrienDave: wow. That is nice. Not sure how well it works, one way or the other. First I've heard of it.
[05:07] <ObrienDave> it's recommended here for just this scenario
[05:08]  * auk just realizes that kickstart is Red Hat-specific (oops)
[05:08] <ObrienDave> but i use auto-remove so it won't work for me
[05:08] <RjelDZ> Hi every one? i'm new
[05:09]  * ObrienDave can't stand .deb building up, wasting space
[05:09]  * auk feels the same way
[05:09] <Abe> RjelDZ: Hi
[05:09] <auk> hi RjelDZ
[05:09] <RjelDZ> hi
[05:10] <ObrienDave> Appropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome
[05:10] <RjelDZ> thank you
[05:11] <Abe> :D
[05:12] <RjelDZ> what is the lighter DE for ubuntu?
[05:12] <somsip> !flavors | RjelDZ
[05:13] <somsip> RjelDZ: xubuntu and lubuntu are usually recommended as the lighter ones IIRC
[05:13] <RjelDZ> thank you somsip and ubottu
[05:13] <ObrienDave> RjelDZ, KDE, XFCE, LXDE in that order, lubuntu being the 'lightest'
[05:13] <vickycq> Can I use the command 'unity' in tty1 (text mode) to start a full unity xsession?
[05:14] <vickycq> like 'startxfce4' to start Xfce xsession?
[05:14] <RjelDZ> ok thank you all i will try it in my old pc
[05:15] <ObrienDave> RjelDZ, i use and recommend Xubuntu :)
[05:15] <RjelDZ> thank you ObrienDave , can he start in my old pc with 256m ram?
[05:16] <limbera> hi there
[05:16] <ObrienDave> RjelDZ, that is the minimum, iirc
[05:16] <limbera> i'm trying to setup an SMTP server so that i can send mail from a django application
[05:17] <limbera> i'm obviously not doing something correct because i get a [Errno 111] Connection refused
[05:17] <RjelDZ> ok
[05:17] <limbera> can someone help me identify what is going wrong
[05:17] <t3chguy> Hello, when connecting to a WiFi network my laptop doesn't have the default gateway added even though it gets the correct IP from DHCP; any ideas what I could do/check?
[05:18] <somsip> limbera: try connecting manually to confirm whether it's an SMTP issue or a django issue
[05:20] <RonWhoCares> Are the people I was talking to yesterday about a memory link?  Specifically in Firefox
[05:20] <limbera> somsip: how can i do that
[05:21] <somsip> limbera: telnet {ip} {port}
[05:21] <limbera> thank you
[05:22] <limbera> no luck
[05:22] <limbera> tryin <ip> ....
[05:23] <limbera> and no movement
[05:23] <limbera> should i be doing that locally
[05:23] <limbera> as in on the server
[05:23] <somsip> limbera: sounds like either firewall or bad smtp config
[05:24] <limbera> ohhh yep likely my ufw settings
[05:24] <limbera> forgot i installed that...
[05:24] <somsip> limbera: uncomplicated firewall is uncomplicated :)
[05:24] <limbera> haha yep
[05:25] <Ullarah> Can somebody eli5 what this 'Snappy' is about? Is it just yet another package management which includes the canonical store? Or?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> !snappy | Ullarah
[05:25] <Ullarah> Wow. It's got it's own channel, haha!
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Ullarah, no surprise.  it's kind of a "big" thing.
[05:27] <limbera> which ports should be open somsip
[05:28] <somsip> limbera: depends what protocol you're using - 25 for SMTP, 587 for TLS, and another one that escapes me...
[05:28] <limbera> i think 587 is smtp
[05:28] <limbera> no?
[05:28] <somsip> limbera: 465 was the other one http://serverfault.com/questions/149903/what-ports-to-open-for-mail-server
[05:29] <ObrienDave> 465 is imap, iirc
[05:29] <limbera> so if i want to just send mail
[05:29] <limbera> not receive
[05:30] <limbera> what would be the best choice
[05:30] <somsip> limbera: 25 for smtp, 487 if you want secure login
[05:31] <limbera> 487?
[05:31] <somsip> ...er...587 sorry
[05:31] <limbera> not mentioned in the article you linked
[05:31] <limbera> yeah thought so
[05:32] <SinisterDoor> any ways to create an encrypted partition using gparted or something similar?(don't want to use nautilus)
[05:32] <somsip> !encrypt | SinisterDoor
[05:33] <somsip> SinisterDoor: dunno about encrypted whole partition though
[05:34] <SinisterDoor> somsip,well I don't want to do it on my own PC.but on my external drive.
[05:34] <SinisterDoor> I have one ntfs partition,one clone partiton(ext4),and I want to make another encrypted partition there
[05:34] <ObrienDave> don't encrypt the drive. encrypt a directory
[05:34] <ObrienDave> or partition
[05:34] <SinisterDoor> I've heard some stuff about luks,it seemed to be an easy setup on nautilus.
[05:35] <somsip> SinisterDoor: this, but can't vouch for its usefullness https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[05:35] <SinisterDoor> should I use luks with nautilus?or is there a better tool?
[05:35] <ObrienDave> if you do the entire drive or partition, losing one bit makes the whole thing unuseable
[05:35] <SinisterDoor> I'll take a look somsip
[05:36] <SinisterDoor> somsip,looks cool,will try.
[05:37] <somsip> SinisterDoor: good luck and heed the warnings!
[05:38] <ObrienDave> *sighs and gives up*
[05:39] <limbera> so i've opened port 587
[05:39] <limbera> still getting the same error
[05:39] <somsip> limbera: this error comes from where?
[05:39] <limbera> a celery log
[05:40] <limbera> i add the email sending to a queue
[05:40] <somsip> limbera: debug manually. Make sure SMTP is working before adding another layer of abstraction by calling it from django
[05:41] <limbera> ok
[05:41] <limbera> i'll try send one from exam manually
[05:41] <limbera> exim*
[05:44] <limbera> hmm
[05:45] <limbera> what's a good SMTP server to install
[05:45] <t3chguy> postfix
[05:45] <radiel892> i think my nouveau driver is holding onto my nvidia card preventing the nvidia driver from loading, says the kernel log, the nvidia help page says its possible to remove with "apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" but i can only find on the system xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-vivid is that ok to purge?
[05:49] <somsip> limbera: good or easy?
[05:50] <limbera> both :P
[05:50] <limbera> it's only sending server emails
[05:50] <limbera> like email verification etc..
[05:52] <somsip> !info sendemail | limbera (very simple, but not very robust - good for testing and lightweigth use IMHO)
[05:54] <limbera> would you recommend it in production then somsip
[05:54] <somsip> limbera: I use it for emailing admin alerts and suchlike. I use external providers for all user emails though (mailgun, postmark)
[05:55] <limbera> is that because they won't go to spam?
[05:55] <somsip> limbera: if it's just for celery admin emails, it's usuable IME
[05:55] <limbera> nah it's not celery admin
[05:55] <limbera> it's all getting dumped on celery
[05:55] <limbera> but the emails are email validation, forgot password, invite to join "team"
[05:55] <somsip> limbera: you're queueing email jobs for later sending?
[05:56] <somsip> limbera: I wouldn't use it for that personally. But for dev work and testing it might be easier to get code working and use a more thorough solution in production
[05:56] <limbera> you mean you wouldn't use postmark/mailgun?
[05:57] <somsip> limbera: then again, just discovered mailcatcher myself for local dev.
[05:57] <somsip> limbera: If i have a project that sends emails through a provider, I'd use the provider. If I have a project that only sends admin alerts, I may use sendemail as a easy fix
[05:58] <somsip> but this is all getting off-topic for ubuntu support so I'll wind up I think
[06:15] <goatfloat>  trrst
[06:30] <bananatreedad> hello
[06:30] <jellow> Hi bananatreedad
[06:31] <jellow> do you have a support question?
[06:33] <radiel892> hi :D nvidia module is not loading when system boots, but in single user mode i can do a 'modprobe nvidia' without issues?
[06:34] <auronandace> radiel892: check if it is blacklisted
[06:35] <radiel892> syslog says module license nvidia taints kernel
[06:36] <radiel892> only nvidiafb is blacklisted it seems (cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* |grep -i nvidia)
[06:38] <radiel892> syslog also says the nvidia probe routine was not called for 1 devices, and goes on to say this can be caused by another driver taking ownership of the device
[06:39] <U^1> I am trying to dualboot with dragonflybsd but i get error
[06:39] <hateball> radiel892: how did you install the nvidia driver? if you use the supported methods it should blacklist nouveau for you
[06:40] <U^1> but I didn't trychainload
[06:40] <U^1> how could i chainload to dragonflybsd?
[06:40] <U^1> thanks
[06:40] <auronandace> !grub | U^1
[06:41] <radiel892> hateball, i used apt-get install nvidia-304, just in case i also removed nouveau
[06:43] <AnonymousGpt> #Data_base is§ head
[06:43] <gabord> Hi. I have a repository, and a package, and i would like to download only the package installation (the .deb, or whats downloaded), but im not on ubuntu nor debian.
[06:43] <gabord> Is there a way to download only the package, with wget or something, without installing?
[06:45] <gabord> Its this package, and this repository: https://packager.io/gh/opf/openproject/install?bid=1304#ubuntu-14-04-openproject
[06:45] <gabord> Is there a way to use wget to get the .deb package?
[06:45] <radiel892> hateball, after some more troubleshooting i ran nvidia-xconfig for the first time and it generated an xorg.conf, the log says vesa or fb is loading but not the nvidia
[06:46] <demonlove> how do i know a certain software(kazen  for  screencast ) is ppa or not?
[06:47] <ducasse> gabord: why can't you just install from the repo? if you just install the .deb you won't get updates.
[06:47] <demonlove> explain more
[06:47] <gabord> ducasse: Im trying to port an ubuntu package to a gentoo package, and i would like to see the official .deb.
[06:49] <hateball> gabord: you can use apt-download
[06:49] <hateball> gabord: sorry, apt-get download
[06:50] <RudyValencia> Hi, so I have a second hard disk which I've divided as 2GB swap and the rest as an XFS partition, where is it recommended that I mount the XFS partition?
[06:50] <ducasse> demonlove: 'apt-cache policy packagename'
[06:50] <gabord> hateball: Well, ok. But im trying. I know there is a way to get the .deb.
[06:58] <sas_> hi
[07:00] <ducasse> RudyValencia: it is recommended that you mount it wherever it suits you. what do you want to use it for?
[07:00] <RudyValencia> ducasse: miscellaneous storage outside my homedir
[07:00] <RudyValencia> I guess /misc will do?
[07:00] <RudyValencia> or maybe /mnt/misc perhaps?
[07:00] <ducasse> RudyValencia: sure it will.
[07:01] <ducasse> RudyValencia: make the path short, so it's less to type
[07:01] <RudyValencia> /misc and /cifs (CIFS automounts via autofs)?
[07:02] <ducasse> RudyValencia: whatever you want.
[07:02] <RudyValencia> ah cool
[07:12] <tarelerulz> Do any you how to play video in h265 ?
[07:12] <Kalimero> I'm a bit confused. Why does Ubuntu 14.04.1 has a different support expire date than 14.04.3 ?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Kalimero: its best you update as soon as possible
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Kalimero: for security reasons its best to always be up to date
[07:14] <GAM002> any software to make music on linux/ubuntu other than audacity?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: check the ubuntu-studio channel, they have expertise about audio software
[07:16] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok thanks i will
[07:17] <Kalimero> lotuspsychje, i am currently not running ubuntu but want to install it soon. I used a different distro before. But why should I install 14.04.3 when its support time is shorter than 14.04.1
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> !info hydrogen | GAM002
[07:17] <GAM002> but please do tell me if anyone one you have any on your own suggetions other than audacity
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: http://www.techdrivein.com/2014/02/10-music-production-tools-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Kalimero: the latest is 14.04.3 so it will be inside the iso you will download
[07:18] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: wow thanks
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Kalimero: i think you confuse a bit, its not reccomended to still use 14.04.1
[07:19] <ObrienDave> dist-upgrade will get you 14.04.3
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: mixxx is also very neat!
[07:20] <Kalimero> lotuspsychje, i know i will download the latest one on ubuntus website but it is also possible to download older releases but it doesnt explain why the expire dates are different (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases )
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Kalimero: if full LTS have 5 year support, the closer you get in time, the less time newer versions will be supported
[07:21] <ducasse> Kalimero: they are both supported for the same time period
[07:22] <ObrienDave> Kalimero, 5 years from INITIAL release date
[07:23] <ObrienDave> 3 for xubuntu :(
[07:23] <hamelin> hi, someone know how can I to go to the top of screen at irssi?
[07:23] <hamelin> I dont know the key list to ir.
[07:23] <hamelin> *it
[07:24] <DJones> hamelin: I just use page up/page down to scroll through the previous messages, not sure whether there is a key combo that would take right to the top though
[07:24] <ObrienDave> thanks for visiting, this is Ubuntu support, not irssi
[07:24] <Kalimero> ducasse, it should be 5 years yes but the wiki says 14.04.3 end august 2016. I dont get it.  Thanks! Worked here!
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !lts | RudyValencia
[07:25] <ducasse> Kalimero: how long it gets kernels with new drivers
[07:26] <ObrienDave> RudyValencia, 04 of every EVEN year. 12, 14, 16,....
[07:26] <RudyValencia> Yes, I said every even year
[07:26] <RudyValencia> :)
[07:26] <Kalimero> RudyValencia, I its not always the case 15.04 is not a LTS Release
[07:26] <ObrienDave> RudyValencia, so you did, my mistake
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> RudyValencia: you also said isnt it ? :p
[07:26] <Kalimero> RudyValencia, I think its not always the case 15.04 is not a LTS Release
[07:27] <RudyValencia> Kalimero: It's every *even* year (e.g. 10, 12, 14, 16).
[07:27] <ducasse> Kalimero: but 15 isn't an even number, is it?
[07:27] <RudyValencia> I prefer LTS
[07:27] <ObrienDave> RudyValencia NEVER said 15.04. give it a rest LOL
[07:27] <Kalimero> i overread ObrienDaves answer
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> lets continue support issues guys
[07:28] <RudyValencia> I'm using LTS as my desktop of choice here.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[07:29] <ducasse> Has anyone here converted an ext4 root fs to btrfs?
[07:29] <Kalimero> lotuspsychje, my question wasn't support related? Well, I am sorry i thought it is.
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !btfrs | ducasse
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | ducasse
[07:30] <auk> !btrfs | auk
[07:31] <ducasse> yeah, i know that, none the less i *need* it for something. the question was if anyone has experience with converting to it with recent kernels and toolchains?
[07:31] <TomyWork> i'm moving from one machine to another right now. both ubuntu 14.04. i only have one mouse, and i'd ideally want to use my keyboard on either machine, too. is there some program to do that?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: never tryed converting myself, but i think installing things clean might be a good idea
[07:32] <TomyWork> i found synergy, but that's proprietary software
[07:32] <ObrienDave> use a KVM switch
[07:32] <dw1> anyone know how to get the title to update in gnome-terminal when using TERM=gnome-256color ?
[07:32] <dw1> the usual stuff doesnt seem to work :[
[07:32] <ObrienDave> TomyWork, use a KVM switch
[07:33] <TomyWork> ObrienDave it's for a couple of days while i'm using both machines. not going to buy one just for that :)
[07:33] <auk> TomyWork: last i checked, synergy is actually open source
[07:33] <ObrienDave> easiest way i know of
[07:33] <auk> TomyWork: you just have to compile yourself for windows
[07:33] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i'm kind of thinking that too, was just hoping to avoid it. guess it's worth a shot, since i will need to reformat anyway if it doesn't work...
[07:33] <TomyWork> auk no windows involved :)
[07:33] <auk> TomyWork: then synergy should be in the repos, no?
[07:34] <TomyWork> and odd... the first thing on their page is the get button and that shows a sum of money
[07:34] <TomyWork> i'll try
[07:34] <auk> TomyWork: yeah, they switched to that a while (year?) back
[07:34] <ducasse> TomyWork: yeah, but i think there is an older version freely available
[07:34] <auk> TomyWork: they just stopped distributing binaries, except for free
[07:35] <ducasse> TomyWork: http://synergy-foss.org
[07:38] <auk> TomyWork: also https://synergy-project.org/purchase/faq/ and https://github.com/synergy
[07:38] <TomyWork> ducasse that's a redirect to the page that wants money :)
[07:38] <guest81838> anyone know a gui to install a .iso file to a usb for ubuntu?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> guest81838: from wicj Os?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> wich
[07:39] <guest81838> install pclinuxos live cd onto usb
[07:39] <auk> TomyWork: see their faq, it is a bit confusing but it's still GPL
[07:39] <TomyWork> yeah
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !usb | guest81838
[07:39] <guest81838> i mean do you know a gui for installing operating systems? like unetbootin
[07:39] <dominick_> hello
[07:39] <guest81838> but a alternative
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> guest81838: for ubuntu or windows?
[07:40] <guest81838> ubuntu
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> guest81838: multisystem is nice
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> guest81838: and the ubuntu usb creator
[07:40] <ObrienDave> YUMI
[07:41] <ObrienDave> linuxpendrive
[07:48] <Kalimero> can i ask questions about program running on ubuntu or is it related to their own irc/support ?
[07:49]  * dw1 switches to xterm-256color
[07:50] <ducasse> Kalimero: what program?
[07:51] <ObrienDave> Kalimero, if it's supplied in the official repos, sure. PPAs are not supported here
[07:52] <Kalimero> i am running darkstat as a web-based network monitoring tool on a ubuntu server but it frequently resets the collected data and i want to prevent that
[07:52] <Kalimero> ObrienDave, good to know thanks
[07:52] <ObrienDave> welcome
[07:54] <ducasse> Kalimero: how regularly? could it be a cron job?
[07:55] <Kalimero> ducasse, it seems to happen at 4 am every day
[07:56] <ducasse> Kalimero: sounds like cron. check if there is a job running.
[07:57] <ducasse> Kalimero: if there is a cron job, that might be because it actually needs it, though
[07:58] <Kalimero> ducasse, i already checked but there is no cron named darkstat or something similar
[08:00] <Kalimero> ducasse, i dont know where darkstat is getting its data so it might be system related and not caused by darkstat itself
[08:00] <ducasse> Kalimero: where did you look? both /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ and /etc/cron*?
[08:01] <Kalimero> ducasse, i checked only /etc/cron i'll give a try the other one you mentioned
[08:03] <Kalimero> ducasse the /var/spool/cron/crontabs is the one you opening with crontab -e?
[08:03] <ducasse> Kalimero: yes, -u for user
[08:04] <Kalimero> ducasse, ok i checked both
[08:04] <ffos> hi
[08:04] <ffos> is any one reading this?
[08:04] <ducasse> Kalimero: then i would check the config file. looks like that is /etc/darkstat/init.cfg
[08:04] <Kalimero> ducasse, didnt know crontab -e is located at /var/spool ....
[08:05] <ducasse> Kalimero: yes they are, but i don't think packages are supposed to put jobs there, they should be under /etc
[08:05] <Kalimero> ducasse, i also did already nothing there
[08:06] <ducasse> Kalimero: then i'd guess your best bet would be to ask the darkstat people. i have no idea where it gets data from and how it is stored
[08:07] <ducasse> Kalimero: or use another program. what are you monitoring?
[08:08] <Kalimero> ducasse, just the network traffic and the connected hosts for information purposes
[08:08] <ducasse> Kalimero: then i would look at ntop or ntop-ng
[08:09] <ducasse> Kalimero: and use netflow from the hosts i want to grab traffic from, like routers
[08:10] <ducasse> Kalimero: if you want bandwidth monitoring, then vnstat and/or bandwidthd
[08:10] <Kalimero> ducasse, i tried ntop-ng already but it was a bit to overloaded and more ressources consuming than darkstat. i found a database file for darkstat that answers at least where it saves its data
[08:11] <ducasse> Kalimero: old ntop is in the repos and much less resource demanding, it's what i use
[08:12] <Kalimero> ducasse, is the port changeable in the config of the old one?
[08:12] <ducasse> Kalimero: i think it's a command line option
[08:12] <Kalimero> ducasse, ok i'll give it a try, thank you
[08:13] <TomyWork> woohoo it works
[08:14] <pradeep> hello
[08:25] <Kalimero> ubuntu installation crashes when i try to connect to my wifi
[08:26] <baizon> Kalimero: then don't connecT?
[08:26] <baizon> Kalimero: you can install the updates afterwards
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Kalimero, short answer: save your sanity and follow baizon's suggestion.
[08:33] <Kalimero> how can i write an é in the installation setup?
[08:33] <dw1> Ctrl-Shift-U maybe
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Kalimero, set your keyboard to the language you need
[08:33] <dw1> then the utf8 number
[08:35] <arcsky_> hey guys i did use unetbooting and write to the usb drive. booted on a server. but after keyboard settings it asked for CD-rom to be mounted. why doesnt it work since its USB ?
[08:35] <Kalimero> cfhowlett, i know how to to it on my pc but my notebook has a different layout and i dont want to mess it up and loosen its functionality just for an é . the compose key isnt set yet sadly
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Kalimero, dw1 had a valid suggestion; enter the utf8 code
[08:36] <EriC^^> Kalimero: try pressing ctrl+shift+u as dw1 said, then type 09 and press enter
[08:37] <EriC^^> * e9 not 09
[08:37] <Kalimero> dw1, it does nothing when i press ctrl+shift+u
[08:37] <dw1> guess it's not enabled there
[08:37] <dw1> should make an underlined u
[08:38] <Kalimero> dw1, yes
[08:38] <pradeep> hello everyone
[08:43] <Abe> somebody experience with openshot?
[08:43] <dw1> somebody
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Abe, some.  what's up?
[08:43] <Abe> well it's actually a problem that I have with it :/
[08:44] <m1dnight1> I have upgraded all my packages using `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` yet the ssh login keeps saying there are 79 packages to be updated. this has been for a week now.
[08:44] <Abe> where are the sound setting the sound comes out of the wrong output and I need to change it somehow...
[08:44] <m1dnight1> So the motd is alrady been updated.
[08:44] <Abe> The sound comes out of my speakers but I need the sound in my headset ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> m1dnight1, what version of ubuntu?
[08:45] <m1dnight1> 14.04 server
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Abe, that's coming from sound settings not from openshot
[08:45] <Abe> ok i have gstreamer backend... kubuntu standart
[08:46] <Abe> everything is going over headset just not Openshot somehow.. it's using my speakers ?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !sound | abe
[08:46] <ObrienDave> m1dnight1, don't use both upgrade and dist-upgrade
[08:46] <m1dnight1> I was going on what I found on askubuntu :p
[08:47] <ObrienDave> use dist-upgrade
[08:47] <m1dnight1> But Ill keep that in mind.
[08:47] <cfhowlett> m1dnight1, do this:  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:48] <Abe> well I don't have a problem with sound.. It's just Openshot thats using my speakers instead of my headset. everything else works fine thanks
[08:48] <m1dnight1> http://termbin.com/xk0q, cfhowlett ^
[08:48] <cfhowlett> m1dnight1, right.  motd seems to be off somehow.  suggest asking in #ubuntu-server
[08:50] <m1dnight1> okay, thanks for the info cfhowlett
[08:50] <cfhowlett> m1dnight1, best of luck
[08:54] <Abe> I thought there might be an sound output setting in openshot somwhere
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Abe, and you didn't find it cuz ... openshot doesn't direct audio output.  it's your sound settings!
[08:55] <Abe> okay I play around with sound settings a little and see what I can do
[08:55] <Abe> thx for help
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Abe, best of luck.
[08:57] <Abe> thanks
[08:59] <Abe> lol that was easy I just right clicked on the Openshot Sound and there was the Option I can choose the sound output so I got it. was just something I didn't know.. good now I know better!
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Abe, :)
[09:00] <Abe> :D
[09:01] <demonlove> how do i know a certain software(kazen  for  screencast ) is ppa or not?
[09:01] <demonlove> <
[09:01] <ducasse> demonlove: i already told you apt-cache policy
[09:02] <demonlove> that time i  got offline due to bad network
[09:02] <ducasse> demonlove: well, try now :)
[09:02] <demonlove> pls copy and paste that one
[09:02] <demonlove> what!
[09:02] <ducasse> apt-cache policy kazen
[09:03] <daschel> the windows 10 upgrade screwed up my partitions.  Has anyone else run into this problem, and if so is it recoverable?
[09:03] <demonlove> in root user or normal?
[09:04] <demonlove> ducasse?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> daschel, probably not.  reinstall and restore your backups.
[09:04] <demonlove> N: Unable to locate package kazen
[09:04] <EriC^^> daschel: what do you mean by screwed up your partitions?
[09:05] <daschel> EriC^^, https://cryptbin.com/5yN9qY#9bfdeae9ce2eff44f7b2cc142ba710a8
[09:06] <EriC^^> daschel: no idea
[09:08] <daschel> cfhowlett, I'm trying to extinguish all other options before I do that.  but I have noticed that partitioning tools and and the ubuntu installer fail when reading the disk on both ubuntu and windows
[09:08] <daschel> because I didn't push a handful of commits before I upgraded :/
[09:08] <cfhowlett> daschel, clarify: neither ubuntu nor windows can see your parts?
[09:10] <daschel> cfhowlett, gparted displays the entire disc as unallocated.  the ubuntu installer...uhm...I forget exactly how it displayed the disc but it showed no partitions.  and partition magic in windows gives an I/O error when trying to read the drive.
[09:11] <cfhowlett> daschel, yeah, that last should give you a bit of a pucker factor as it typically indicates failing hardware.
[09:11] <EriC^^> try smartctl to check for drive failure
[09:11] <daschel> other tools recognize them, like boot repair
[09:11] <daschel> ok
[09:11] <cfhowlett> daschel, and backup everything now.
[09:11] <daschel> yup
[09:11] <daschel> i've learned my lesson :/
[09:12] <ducasse> demonlove: doesn
[09:12] <ducasse> demonlove: doesn't matter
 why does this error comes
[09:13] <demonlove>  Unable to locate package kazen
[09:13] <ducasse> demonlove: then it can't find it
[09:13] <debpooter> im trying to make my desktop accessable from anywhere with rdp and it works but it just runs openbox and not my pannel is there a way to start the xfce4-panel automagicly?
[09:13] <debpooter> err, like a autoexec.bat for when i login rdp?
[09:14] <ducasse> demonlove: probably means that it's in a ppa that you haven't added yet
[09:14] <demonlove> how to get it add?
[09:15] <ducasse> demonlove: read the instructions for the ppa. they are on their page, usually
[09:16] <Abe> okay now I have a question about Openshot. How can I glue clips together... there is this little magnet but it doesn't seem to do anything.. sorry I'm quiet new to this prog
[09:16] <cfhowlett> debpooter, open xubuntu.  go into settings and "save your session"
[09:17] <Abe> I think i have to render everything right? well don't answer I'll figure it out
[09:17] <debpooter> cfhowlett: i dont have xubuntu i have ubuntu server with openbox and xfce4-panel
[09:17] <cfhowlett> debpooter, look on the panel for "settings"
[09:18] <cfhowlett> debpooter, settings > session & startup > Session > Save Session
[09:18] <lord4163> so why does @reboot in my crontab not work?
[09:19] <debpooter> cfhowlett: i dont have that i have openbox configuration manager? if that helps?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> debpooter, should be standard on the xfce panel
[09:20] <demonlove> after sudo apt-get update why this error comes : Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:22] <debpooter> cfhowlett: i dont have that, in my settings menu i have openbox configuration manager, file manager, prefered applications, panel, synaptic package manager
[09:22] <demonlove> after sudo apt-get update why this error comes : Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:22] <cfhowlett> debpooter, sorry.  I'm only familiar with xfce/xubuntu workings
[09:23] <debpooter> oh okay
[09:23] <ducasse> demonlove: the message tells you. "Connection failed".
[09:26] <demonlove> everytime i  got same error?
[09:26] <ducasse> demonlove: that means it failed to connect every time.
[09:27] <Ntemis> hello
[09:27] <Ntemis> cant make changes to disks as local admin
[09:27] <Ntemis> help
[09:28] <EriC^^> type  mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:28] <Ntemis> Error formatting volume Not authorized to perform operation (udisks-error-quark, 4)
[09:28] <Ntemis> WTF?
[09:28] <EriC^^> nevermind
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !langauge | Ntemis,
[09:28] <Ntemis> help?
[09:31] <Ntemis> omg
[09:31] <Ntemis> issueing a sudo gnome-disks
[09:31] <Ntemis> alerts me that (gnome-disks:3815): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/Ntemis/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[09:32] <EriC^^> use sudo mkfs.<fs>
[09:32] <Ntemis> EriC^^: i want this to be fixed not bypassed
[09:32] <EriC^^> !gksu | Ntemis
[09:32] <EriC^^> don't though, but just know not to use sudo with gui apps
[09:33] <Ntemis> ah nice! didnt know that
[09:33] <EriC^^> Ntemis: type id and paste here
[09:33] <Abe> ubottu: are you some kind of bot? it really seems like it?
[09:34] <EriC^^> maybe you're not part of a group that gnome-disks checks for, but anyways the common way is to use mkfs to format filesystems
[09:34] <Ntemis> uid=1000(Ntemis) gid=1000(Ntemis) groups=1000(Ntemis),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[09:34] <Abe> ubottu: you can answer to a lot of stuff thats cool
[09:35] <EriC^^> groups are all there
[09:35] <Ntemis> aha
[09:35] <Ntemis> bug?
[09:35] <lord4163> Why doesn't @reboot work in my crontab???
[09:36] <MrElendig> does the task work if you set it to just run in 5 mins?
[09:37] <MrElendig> also @reboot is quite unreliable depending on the init system
[09:37] <Ntemis> hmm
[09:37] <lord4163> MrElendig: am using upstart
[09:37] <MrElendig> some of them are silly and sigkills too early
[09:37] <lord4163> MrElendig: and haven't tried
[09:37] <Ntemis> sudo formating the hdd and now i cant even open it as normal user
[09:37] <MrElendig> what exactly do you want to run at reboot anyway?
[09:37] <MrElendig> often it will be better to write a propper service for it instead
[09:38] <MrElendig> and have your init system take care of it
[09:38] <Ntemis> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "1bd53729-6350-4fa7-9da4-70f177d9de46".
[09:38] <Ntemis> unbelievable
[09:38] <lord4163> MrElendig: Update an A record.
[09:39] <MrElendig> Ntemis: what are you *really* trying to do?
[09:39] <chrisss123456> anyone here use banshee?
[09:39] <Ntemis> format a hdd ext4 and open it with r/rw access
[09:39] <MrElendig> lord4163: write a init script for that instead imo
[09:39] <Ntemis> so far am getting frustrated
[09:39] <MrElendig> Ntemis: mkfs.ext4 /dev/whatever then chmod/own it as needed
[09:40] <arcsky_> Im going to install ubuntu on a server with RAID5. should i use the ubuntu installation on the entire drive or just a part of it?
[09:40] <MrElendig> arcsky_: hardware raid?
[09:40] <lord4163> MrElendig: Now I'm running it every minute, that works
[09:40] <MrElendig> too bad upstart doesn't have timer units etc
[09:41] <lord4163> MrElendig: do you have a template for that?
[09:42] <MrElendig> nope
[09:42]  * MrElendig uses systemd
[09:42] <MrElendig> the ubuntu wiki/docs have though
[09:42] <EriC^^> lord4163: maybe put sleep 60 && <command> in @reboot ?
[09:45] <atmox> can anyone guide me for nistalling android studio
[09:46] <atmox> its in zip format what to do next?
[09:47] <Fuchs> atmox: unpacking it sounds like a sane first step
[09:47] <ducasse> atmox: unpack it, and look for a README or INSTALL file
[09:48] <atmox> unpacking has been done
[09:48] <atmox> but their readme documentation doesn;t work for my case?
[09:49] <ducasse> atmox: what doesn't work?
[09:50] <k1l> atmox: the place where you get it should have a howto. so does this https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html?pkg=studio
[09:52] <zamba> i want to create one large file system used for storing of data.. what fs do you recommend?
[09:53] <zamba> we're talking around 40 TB
[09:53] <ducasse> zamba: zfs
[09:53] <zamba> ducasse: supported in ubuntu?
[09:53] <ducasse> zamba: yes.
[09:53] <trijntje> zamba: but only if you have ECC RAM
[09:54] <zamba> trijntje: this is a virtual machine
[09:56] <lord4163> MrElendig: hmmm
[09:56] <Abe> dammit openshot is not very stable :( is there an alternative and a little more "professional" in terms of video editing? what are you guys using? Openshot is more like windows movie maker... i am really looking for something like sony vegas alternative ? I know linux is not the best for video editing...
[09:56] <ducasse> zamba: you could also go with something like mdadm + xfs, you should ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:56] <lord4163> MrElendig: can start the service but now the question is how to get it started automatically
[09:56] <cfhowlett> Abe, lots.  easy way: sudo apt install ubuntustudio-video
[09:57] <atmox> there it says cmd not found
[09:57] <MrElendig> lord4163: service enable whatever  or whatever script ubuntu uses these days
[09:57] <trijntje> zamba: if the host doesn't have ECC ram and  ram goes bad you risk losing ALL your data with zfs
[09:57] <Abe> well i will look at it first before i'm going to install it but thx alot
[09:59] <cfhowlett> Abe, apt-cache show ubuntustudio-video
[09:59] <lord4163> MrElendig: I thought Ubuntu was so user friendly ;)
[10:00] <EriC^^> lord4163: update-rc.d
[10:00] <MrElendig> lord4163: not really
[10:00] <MrElendig> lord4163: not until is switches to systemd
[10:00] <lord4163> EriC^^: yeah then it told me that /etc/init.d/bla does not exist
[10:00]  * MrElendig ducks from all the flamewars
[10:00] <ducasse> lord4163: "unix is user friendly, it's just picky about who it's friends are"
[10:00] <Abe> cfhowlett: ok is that some kind of OS?
[10:00] <lord4163> EriC^^: that's correct because I never put anything in there, but in /etc/init
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !studio | Abe
[10:02] <Abe> well i am looking on it on youtube and it looks like an OS? I don't want to go that far
[10:02] <zamba> ducasse: why mdam?
[10:02] <zamba> ducasse: mdadm.. isnt't that for building arrays?
[10:02] <k1l> atmox: what command?
[10:02] <ducasse> zamba: is this already on an array, or is it a bunch of disks somewhere?
[10:03] <zamba> ducasse: it's exposed over iSCSI, so it's already a RAID-6
[10:03] <Abe> I need my Os as it is right now :(
[10:03] <lord4163> EriC^^: ??
[10:03] <ducasse> zamba: ok, then you don't need mdadm.
[10:03] <zamba> ducasse: so basically just mkfs.xfs ?
[10:04] <ducasse> zamba: read up on it first, see if it fits your needs. i have good experience with it.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Abe, which is why I suggested installing ONLY the video meta package
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Abe, it's ubuntu.  it's easy.
[10:04] <zamba> ducasse: i've created the big partition using parted
[10:05] <ducasse> zamba: xfs is generally a good choice, but it always depends on your specific needs.
[10:05] <ubunu> i was trying to duel boot my laptop windows 10 and ubuntu.I already both are installed but ubuntu doesn't appear in boot screen
[10:06] <Abe> well I'm not going to screw with my OS I'm looking for a program not for an hole new OS on my Computer. I need my pc for other stuff too you know
[10:07] <goaterism> !patience
[10:07] <Abe> ubunu do you have UEFI?
[10:07] <edisto> is there a way to force additional drivers to pick drivers from a list?
[10:08] <ubunu> Yes
[10:08] <Kriman> Hello, I'm having a lot of troubles trying to get a crystalHD decoding card working in my old netbook, can someone troubleshot me?
[10:08] <goaterism> !patience
[10:08] <ubunu> Abe : Leagcy
[10:09] <Abe> Well Windows is trying to force poeple to use windows with UEFI and even more with Windows 10 I had problems with myself with windows 8 and ubuntu... but I fixed it I would say an more "radical" way
[10:10] <Abe> ended up deleting everything that has anything to do with windows :D
[10:10] <Abe> which version are you trying to install of ubuntu??
[10:10] <Abe> 14.04?
[10:10] <ubunu> 14.04 LTS
[10:11] <ubunu> Abe :yes
[10:11] <MrElendig> uefi makes life easier
[10:11] <MrElendig> specially when dualbooting
[10:11] <MrElendig> because if you reinstall windows your bootloader won't get nuked etc
[10:11] <Abe> good let me search in the internet for you let's see what I can find out for you...
[10:12] <Abe> Well I remember nuking my hole harddrive because I had basically the same problem with windows 8 and Uefi
[10:12] <Abe> but I don't want that you do that don't worry
[10:12] <ducasse> ubunu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:13] <Abe> thats what I was going to paste too
[10:14] <ducasse> ubunu: or you could try https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+14.04+dual+boot+with+windows+uefi&t=canonical&ia=qa
[10:14] <Kriman> Is there any way to get working an old driver in ubuntu 15.04 when some of the libraries don't exist anymore?
[10:14] <Abe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[10:14] <rcjames> hello all is ubuntu really secure?
[10:14] <Abe> as far as I know
[10:15] <Abe> but I didn't study the source code so
[10:15] <ducasse> rcjames: that depends on what you are trying to protect against
[10:15] <Kriman> I'm trying to get working a driver for a decoding card, but seems like the driver is too old and make is not being able to run it
[10:16] <rcjames> everything
[10:16] <cfhowlett> rcjames, does a better than average job of protecting against most threats.  sadly, user stupidity is still impossible to protect against.
[10:16] <Abe> haha
[10:16] <cfhowlett> rcjames, NO system is safe from "everything"
[10:16] <rcjames> ofcourse
[10:16] <ducasse> rcjames: if you have the nsa on your ass, then you are screwed anyway
[10:16] <Kriman> yes, there is a way to get a system safe
[10:16] <rcjames> :)
[10:17] <Kriman> make a clean install, uninstall all the drivers and don't connect it to internet
[10:17] <rcjames> nsa can lick my ass
[10:17] <Kriman> and don't install anything in it
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !language | rcjames, that kind of talk will get you banned and /ignored.  stop now.
[10:17] <Sar_da> hi
[10:18] <rcjames> brb
[10:18] <rcjames> ok
[10:18] <Sar_da> is there any option to change to the destination directory automatically when you make a cp. For exapmle: if I run: cp a.txt /media/a/resources
[10:18] <rcjames> brb
[10:18] <Sar_da> then I have to make a cd /media/a/resources
[10:18] <Sar_da> can I do that in the same commnad with cp ?
[10:19] <lord4163> MrElendig: I added it to startup applications instead. Upstart - you may die.
[10:20] <MrElendig> lord4163: systemd is so much nicer
[10:20] <Abe> I think linux is more secure than any other OS besides FreeBSD maybe
[10:20] <cfhowlett> Sar_da, chain your commands.  command 1 && command 2.
[10:20] <cfhowlett> Sar_da, ask #bash for specifics
[10:20] <Kriman> Well, I guess I'll install ubuntu 12.04 in the old netbook to be sure, I think the driver cloud run there without any problem at all. Are repositories and everything updated in 12.04? In fact, are they the same that the 15.04 repositories?
[10:20] <Sar_da> cfhowlett: thank you
[10:21] <cfhowlett> Sar_da, happy2help!
[10:21] <linocisco> hi all
[10:21] <Abe> Kriman: I hope u don't have uefi cuz 12.04 doesn't support it
[10:21] <linocisco> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[10:21] <rcjames> ok back so i have for example a power edge xxxxxx model no need to know i've seen some access easily access by shh by ubuntu laptop and my other computer had multiple dns how can that happen my firewall is pfsense also there most likely be around neighbor spying how can i secure what the best way?
[10:21] <Sar_da> cfhowlett:  :)
[10:21] <Kriman> Well, the laptop is from 2007 and It came with windows XP installed
[10:22] <Kriman> I think UEFI wasn't supported in that days
[10:22] <vbolton> unity is kinda slow. can you guys help me speed it up or maybe setup the lxd desktop?
[10:22] <k1l> linocisco: make sure you have all the updates installed
[10:22] <k1l> vbolton: install lxde package
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | Kriman, 2007?  lubuntu is optimized for older/slower hardware
[10:22] <Abe> ok No Uefi you should be fine then but it's only supported until 2016 or 2017 I think
[10:22] <MrElendig> lord4163: https://bpaste.net/show/75c46426aee0 so much more elegant
[10:22] <linocisco> k1l, that is impossible. it was fine before i reinstalled ubuntu server with same image iso
[10:22] <cfhowlett> vbolton, sudo apt install lxde
[10:23] <Kriman> How bad should it be to keep using it after the support stops
[10:23] <k1l> linocisco: impossible?
[10:23] <vbolton> k1l: is that in the... software updater app?
[10:23] <linocisco> k1l, because I have no internet for server and internet is so expensive here
[10:23] <linocisco> k1l, chatting here via mobile internet
[10:23] <arcsky_> MrElendig: yeah hw raid
[10:23] <cfhowlett> Kriman, no more/less safe than the users I see still on winXP.
[10:23] <k1l> linocisco: what ubuntu version is "lsb_release -a" giving you?
[10:23] <Abe> I have Ubuntu 12.04 running on an old laptop with 512 MB RAM + Pentium 4 and works great. but thats not what i am using on everyday usage
[10:23] <ducasse> Kriman: you might also want to check out xubuntu/xfce, it's a nicer (imo) desktop than lxde, and not heavy on resources
[10:24] <k1l> vbolton: yes
[10:24] <vbolton> k1l: thanks
[10:24] <k1l> !info lxde | vbolton
[10:24] <Kriman> ducasse, I was gonna install xubuntu anyways. But it's the same with some small differences so I just asked here
[10:25] <MrElendig> arcsky_: keep everything in the raid then
[10:25] <linocisco> k1l, No lSB modules are available. Distriubutor ID=Ubuntu, Desscription: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, Relaease 14.04, Codename: trusty
[10:25] <Kriman> Well, I guess I can install 12.04 as a workaround until I can find a fix/way to install that driver in newer versions
[10:25] <k1l> linocisco: that issue is fixed since 14.04.3 iirc.
[10:25] <arcsky_> MrElendig: so i use LVM on entire logical drive?
[10:25] <Kriman> thanks for all the help anyways guys
[10:25] <Kriman> I appreciate it
[10:25] <MrElendig> arcsky_: sure, or btrfs or whatever
[10:25] <arcsky_> MrElendig: thanks man
[10:26] <linocisco> k1l, but mine is 14.04.2
[10:26] <cfhowlett> linocisco, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade           to 14.04.3
[10:26] <OpenSorce> vbolton, alternatively you open a terminal windows (alt+f2 type "xterm" and hit enter) and then type "sudo apt-get install lxde" if you are comfortable with the command line.
[10:26] <MrElendig> arcsky_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DplcPrQjvA
[10:26] <OpenSorce> s/windows/window
[10:26] <k1l> linocisco: running the updates would bring it to 14.04.3
[10:26] <Abe> Who agrees that Windows is taking steps to make it more complicated for poeple to switch to a different OS?
[10:26] <linocisco> cfhowlett, i wish i could . no internet on server
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Abe, who cares?  off-topic for this channel.  #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[10:26] <OpenSorce> Abe, like what steps?
[10:26] <k1l> linocisco: as a workaround you can do sudo apt-get remove libpam-smbpass
[10:26] <Abe> Uefi
[10:26] <OpenSorce> nvm off-topic
[10:26] <linocisco> k1l, ok
[10:26] <Abe> ok i go there
[10:27] <MrElendig> don't put swap on the raid though :p
[10:27] <Abe> as example
[10:27] <OpenSorce> Abe, they won't like you there either :-)
[10:27] <linocisco> k1l, is it samba related?
[10:27] <k1l> linocisco: yes
[10:27] <Abe> ?
[10:27] <OpenSorce> Abe, scratch that I thought you were talking about a different channel
[10:27] <Abe> k
[10:28] <linocisco> k1l, previous installation didn't include samba. that might be the reason.
[10:29] <linocisco> k1l, thanks it is fixed
[10:29] <chrisss123456> anyone use banshee as a music player? im wondering if there's an easy way to import songs individually and sort them nicely in the music folder like /Music/Artist/Album/song.mp3.
[10:29] <vbolton> OpenSorce: that was easy! is lxd hard to setup? like for everyday use?
[10:29] <ducasse> chrisss123456: you could check out easytag, that can rearrange music into folders from the tags
[10:30] <chrisss123456> ducasse: is that a banshee plugin or a separate app?
[10:30] <k1l> vbolton: are you talkning about lxde (the desktop) or about lxd (the container stuff)?
[10:30] <ducasse> chrisss123456: separate app
[10:30] <Abe> OpenSorce: what channel?
[10:30] <vbolton> k1l: lxde sorry
[10:30] <chrisss123456> ducasse: ok, but there must be something that's a plugin. would surprise me if not!
[10:31] <linocisco> k1l, so samba configuration will be unusable?
[10:31] <OpenSorce> vbolton, not really. I customized a version for my wife in just a few days. I think they will probably help you in here some too if you need it.
[10:31] <ducasse> chrisss123456: i wouldn't know. i use easytag for everything related to fixing tags and sorting in folders, it's purpose-built for that
[10:32] <U^1> there is a bug when I use persian time and date in ubuntu os
[10:32] <chrisss123456> ducasse: fair enough. thanks!
[10:32] <OpenSorce> Abe, I thought you meant you were going to ##windows to talk about it.
[10:32] <k1l> linocisco: no. just not with pam.
[10:32] <vbolton> OpenSorce: its installed who do I use it now?
[10:33] <linocisco> k1l, ok
[10:33] <OpenSorce> vbolton, logout and you should be able to select LXDE from the the login screen. You know what I'm talking about?
[10:33] <Abe> nah I better leave those guys alone ^^ they don't wanna hear it anyway
[10:34] <U^1> in places such as firefox download and properties of files the . shown as persian five    2.8MB is shown as english two the a pesian five and and english eight
[10:34] <U^1> WHY?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> U^1, I suspect your global settings.
[10:34] <cfhowlett> global language settings
[10:35] <vbolton> OpenSorce: uh I think I can find it. im gonna try. you be here for a minute?
[10:35] <dw1> /cs QUIET #ubuntu ... ftw
[10:35] <cfhowlett> check your language support > regional formats.
[10:35] <k1l> U^1: could be the cause that not all language settings are translated for those programs.
[10:35] <U^1> cfhowlett, what I meant was the persian five is used instead of english .
[10:37] <atmox> hello installing archives is taking too long for android application,  can i  do it part by part, means some on this day and some on another day
[10:37] <OpenSorce> k1l, do you guys even support lxde in here at all?
[10:37] <k1l> OpenSorce: yes
[10:37] <OpenSorce> k1l, cool.
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !flavors | OpenSorce
[10:37] <EchoBase> yo
[10:37] <EchoBase> is it life here?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> EchoBase, ask your ubuntu support question
[10:38] <U^1> k1l, we has that inside ubuntu too noit just firefox. and I used English key-map in installation phase. the damn thing did find out that I am in iran and changed my date and time
[10:38] <mnms_> Guys it is reasonable to give 10GB for swap ?
[10:38] <OpenSorce> cfhowlett, yeah I'm aware. I had just heard (erroneously as it were) that this channel was only currently supporting Unity. Thanks for clearing that up :-)
[10:38] <mnms_> I have 5GB of memory
[10:38] <mnms_> it will be mail server
[10:38] <cfhowlett> U^1, I understand.  same happened to me here in china.  global language settings >>> confirm them
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !server | mnms_
[10:39] <k1l> OpenSorce: the guys in #Lubuntu might have more experience with lxde but its suported in here too
[10:39] <OpenSorce> k1l, right on. Thanks :-)
[10:39] <vbolton> it worked! this is much faster too
[10:39] <U^1> k1l, we has that inside ubuntu too noit just firefox. and I used English key-map in installation phase. the damn thing did find out that I am in iran and changed my date and time it says shanbeh in persian which is Monday  and the date it says oot which is August
[10:40] <U^1> cfhowlett, what? come again?
[10:40] <EchoBase> Im using Lubuntu but, why do not gtk guvc video recorder workin?
[10:40] <cfhowlett> check your language support > regional formats.
[10:40] <OpenSorce> vbolton, cool. play around with it just don't close that bottom panel! :-)
[10:41] <EchoBase> like the webcam
[10:41] <vbolton> the one with the start button on it?
[10:41] <t4c> Hi there, any dwm user online? I expect some problems with my fonts @work. At home at my gentoodesktop everything looks fine, but on ubuntu dwm(-menu) looks like crap, someone can hint me into the right direction? Never changed the fontsettings at home for dwm. Installation of terminus font is not helping out.
[10:41] <OpenSorce> vbolton, hehe... they don't really call it a "start button" but yeah that's the one.
[10:42] <OpenSorce> vbolton, mind if I send you a private message?
[10:43] <vbolton> OpenSorce: im using the webchat thing but is it works sure
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> t4c: find out wich font dwm has on gentoo, then search it for ubuntu?
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> t4c: maybe this can help: https://cannibalcandy.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/installing-and-configuring-dwm-under-ubuntu/
[10:52] <pradeep> hi
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> pradeep: welcome, what can we do for you?
[10:52] <pradeep> how come so many people are logging out at the same time
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> pradeep: netsplits can result to this
[10:52] <k1l> !netsplit > pradeep
[10:52] <pradeep> lotuspsychje, am here to learn and also give my own inputs too
[10:53] <SinisterDoor> !netsplit
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | pradeep
[10:53] <chrisss123456> how do i see what's going on in a process (like when running it from the terminal) if it's already running?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> pradeep: you have joined an ubuntu support channel, you can ask troubles here
[10:54] <t4c> lotuspsychje: ty, it should use terminus, like default (tried on gentoo and arch, worked fine), but on my ubuntu desk it looks like hell, not like a clean terminus font.
[10:55] <chrisss123456> how do i see what's going on in a process (like when running it from the terminal) if it's already running?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !patience | chrisss123456,
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !info xfonts-terminus | t4c can this help?
[10:56] <t4c> !info xfonts-terminus
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> oh the bot is down atm
[10:56] <t4c> mh?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> t4c: check your apt-cache
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> t4c: apt-cache search terminus
[10:57] <t4c> lotuspsychje: ii  xfonts-terminus                       4.39-1                                     all          Fixed-width fonts for fast reading
[10:57] <t4c> lotuspsychje: if you wanna see this one..
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> t4c: yep, maybe installing that can fix?
[10:58] <newlearner> Hey there (:
[10:58] <t4c> lotuspsychje: maybe reading the "ii" would show you: I installed terminus...
[10:58] <t4c> lotuspsychje: I am an idiot, but not such a big one :)
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> t4c: ok so why is dmw not using it?
[10:58] <lacrymology> what's the status on hybrid graphics support? I saw this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics but I'm not sure what that means. Is there switching? will my discrete card be turned off when not in use (hence saving battery life and card durability)?
[10:59] <t4c> lotuspsychje: this is why I am asking in here..
[10:59] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, status: it works.  I have intel gpu for normal use and nvidia for super duper GPU stuff.  I switch profiles with the nvidia-prime tool
[11:00] <newlearner> I've run Ubuntu whitin VBox over Windows! I define a share folder (D:\) for it. It's there but not mounted! I checked /proc/mounts and it has this flag: wr; When I try to mount it, I get this error: It's not a block device! Why it's not auto-----------mounted in nautilus?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> newlearner, ask #vbox
[11:01] <newlearner> Oops! They say ask #Ubuntu, cfhowlett
[11:01] <cfhowlett> newlearner, lol.  yeah that happens.  :)
[11:02] <lacrymology> cfhowlett: but does the nvidia card turn off when not in use? what's your battery life like?
[11:02] <pradeep> newlearner, the best way to really enjoy and solve issues fast is installing it directly to a system... if i may advise
[11:02] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, you have to manually switch the profiles.  no auto switch.  as the nvidia is more demanding >>> more fan >>> less battery.
[11:02] <lacrymology> cfhowlett: I ask because I've had an optimus for a while (4-5 years) and back in the old times it didn't work so well, and the card has suffered
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> t4c: maybe check their irc channel: http://dwm.suckless.org/
[11:03] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, my understanding is it has improved quite a lot recently.
[11:03] <lacrymology> cfhowlett: well, as long as I can switch that's fine for me.
[11:03] <lacrymology> yeah, I've heard that, but I wanted some on-hands experience
[11:03] <lacrymology> I've muddled so much on my system I feel the only solution now is a full reinstall
[11:03] <lacrymology> (I'm buying a new machine, so that's not gonna happen anyways)
[11:04] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, a fresh install solves a lot of issues.  also: make an ubuntu USB and TEST the machine before you buy1
[11:04] <cfhowlett> buy!
[11:04] <newlearner> pradeep: If I could, I did it! It's not allowed in my office!
[11:04] <erjing> umm...how to disable JOIN/QUIT notices in chat windows..
[11:04] <blackflow> Hello. Alt-tab is broken in Ubuntu, when switching between two groups of windows, alt tab must switch between groups and it does the first time, but alt-tab again doesn't switch back, but switches WITHIN the group, like alt-`     . How do I fix this?
[11:04] <t4c> lotuspsychje: it is not a dwm issue, it's more something wrong with my font setup here.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !quietirc | erjing
[11:05] <lacrymology> cfhowlett: sadly ThinkPads are only sold online, so no can do
[11:05] <lacrymology> re test
[11:05] <erjing> @cfhowlett thanks a lot :)
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> !fonts | t4c
[11:05] <MrElendig> lotuspsychje: lots of physical stores sells thinkpads too
[11:05] <pradeep> newlearner, if i may ask what do you really do when it comes to computing or job description
[11:05] <MrElendig> er... lacrymology ^
[11:05] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, well, I've been know to grab a demo model in the store corner for "testing".  A bit hard to do at the Apple store I admit, but fun.
[11:06] <atmox> hello installing archives is taking too long for android application,  can i  do it part by part, means some on this day and some on another day
[11:06] <k1l> pradeep: pelase keep #ubuntu technical support only. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <lacrymology> okay, this leaves me more confident
[11:07] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, "fry's electronics"
[11:07] <t4c> lotuspsychje: thanks for you "help". Like I said, I am not such a big idiot...
[11:07] <lacrymology> they told me to expect 1.7kg and 19h+ of battery life, so REALLY looking forward to this machine. I was despairing on a gaming-capable (nothing hardcore) lightweight linux workstation
[11:07] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, but I must say, lenovo has been doing some VERY flakey, funky stuff with their bios lately.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, which machine?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> lacrymology, better yet: PM?
[11:08] <lacrymology> cfhowlett: I.. heard something about it. Also a privacy-nerd friend of mine told me to beware of the latest lenovos bios from that angle as well (2013+)
[11:11] <a1b2> hello anyone can help me with sendmail
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !info sendmail
[11:13] <a1b2> i allowed incoming mail but the sendmail is configured to listen only incoming mails for user in some file but i want to get all that incoming mail like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:16] <procyonidae> hi I think I got some issues with wifi, but I can't find when it exits
[11:18] <demonlove> hello installing archives is taking too long for android application,  can i  do it part by part, means some on this day and some on another day
[11:18] <procyonidae> who can help me with my wifi logs?
[11:20] <pradeep> procyonidae, what kind of hardware are you using
[11:21] <procyonidae> ath9k built in into my laptop my laptop is the Acer Aspire 7551-P322G25Mnsk
[11:22] <procyonidae> Ubuntu 14.04.3 is on my external toshiba hard drive
[11:22] <pradeep> nope i meant your wifi card
[11:22] <procyonidae> the atheros ath9k
[11:22] <pradeep> pastebin the output of lspci
[11:23] <blackflow> Guys, Alt-tab is broken in Ubuntu, when switching between two groups of windows, alt tab must switch between groups and it does the first time, but alt-tab again doesn't switch back, but switches WITHIN the group, like alt-`     . How do I fix this?
[11:24] <procyonidae> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12182783/
[11:26] <procyonidae> pradeep http://paste.ubuntu.com/12182783/
[11:29] <pradeep> procyonidae, iwconfig
[11:30] <procyonidae> pradeep http://paste.ubuntu.com/12182820/
[11:32] <chit_> #android-dev
[11:34] <pradeep> procyonidae, are you connected to the internet with that same sysem
[11:34] <pradeep> i mean via cable
[11:34] <pradeep> or you are using a different system
[11:35] <procyonidae> no WiFi, but it crashes when I close it  for a day
[11:35] <linocisco> hi , mine is 15.04 and problem with mobile internet after removing USB connection from my nokia E5 phone or making offline mode on phone. the fix is ever just to restart ubuntu. is there any workaround? /etc/init.d/networking restart and wvdialconf didn't help
[11:36] <demonlove> why do  internet connection run slower in ubuntu in comparison to window
[11:36] <mindbender1> K1l_: what's the quick way to find out?
[11:36] <mindbender1> Also since I just installed Ubuntu is it possible there are extra software I need to install to get the look and feel close to my old 14.04
[11:36] <mindbender1> Everything is just looking archaic.
[11:36] <backbox> Hello
[11:36] <k1l> mindbender1: ?
[11:36] <pradeep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:36] <linocisco> !patience
[11:37] <pradeep> procyonidae, look at the above link above
[11:37] <demonlove> why do  internet connection run slower in ubuntu in comparison to window
[11:37] <k1l> demonlove: most times its that the drivers are not that good for the linux versions.
[11:37] <procyonidae> I am
[11:37] <mindbender1> What's the best way to manage the touch sensitivity of my touch pad. Other tools don't give me this option.
[11:37] <k1l> demonlove: and dont repeat your questions, that is getting annoying
[11:37] <demonlove> how do i  know whcih driver is best one for linux
[11:37] <demonlove> and u r using which driver?
[11:38] <k1l> demonlove: see what other users did find out about that specific hardware and what drivers is known to be good
[11:38] <mindbender1> The problem is anytime I want to click something the mouse fidgets a little so that I miss my target a bit.
[11:38] <linocisco> demonlove, for example, for some products like Dell, ubuntu drivers are rare. even on their offical website. I am facing performance problem
[11:38] <procyonidae> 06:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) is my WiFi broadcom is the cable
[11:38] <demonlove> mine is also dell
[11:39] <pradeep> noo it is not broadcom  but artheros
[11:39] <cfhowlett> system > software & updates > Additional Drivers
[11:39] <cfhowlett> demonlove, ^^^
[11:39] <pradeep> cfhowlett, he has no internet on that system
[11:39] <procyonidae> yes pradeep that'm what I'm saying
[11:39] <cfhowlett> pradeep, oh.  well.  hush my mouth.
[11:39] <linocisco> demonlove, yes Dell highly support windows. it said it also comes with OEM version of Ubuntu. but here in My country , all Dell reseller wiped out ubuntu and reinsstall windows pirate version
[11:39] <procyonidae> *that's
[11:40] <demonlove> ohoo there's the problem
[11:40] <linocisco> demonlove, the best way to upgrade to latest version of ubuntu
[11:40] <demonlove> 14.04
[11:40] <linocisco> demonlove,  i m using 15.04 and still have some pointer problems and many small issues
[11:40] <cfhowlett> demonlove, 14.04.3 is the latest LTS version.
[11:40] <U^1> what would be the only blueray writer /dev address on a system?
[11:41] <linocisco> demonlove,  dont try to stick on LTS. which is not latest for drivers
[11:41] <procyonidae> pradeep link is for the broadcom, but atheros is what I'm using
[11:41] <pradeep> yes
[11:41] <demonlove> ok
[11:41] <U^1>   /dev/media0?
[11:41] <llutz> U^1: ls -l /dev/sg*
[11:42] <pradeep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/
[11:42] <Ben64> linocisco: lts versions actually get newer drivers too, look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[11:43] <llutz> U^1: or check "wodim --devices" or "wodim --scanbus"
[11:43] <linocisco> Ben64, it might be but mine was not ok with previous installation LTS. that is why I have upgraded to 15.04 64bit
[11:43] <Ben64> linocisco: you can get 15.04's kernel in 14.04
[11:43] <llutz> U^1: err:it's "ls -l /dev/sr*"
[11:44] <grumkard> Hello guys, is there any way to do a full disk encryption after you installed the OS? If not, what's the best way to don't lose everything reinstalling?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> grumkard, yes you can do full disk encrypt post-install
[11:44] <linocisco> Ben64, and then apt-get update && upgrade as ususal to do
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !encryption | grumkard
[11:44] <U^1> llutz, wht is sg then ?
[11:44] <pradeep> procyonidae, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[11:44] <pradeep> that should be for you
[11:45] <procyonidae> pradeep WiFi works always again after a reboot, it never did this until the latest kernel
[11:45] <llutz> U^1: sg = generic and sr  = raw devices. cd/dvd/br writer should be listed as /dev/sr*
[11:46] <grumkard> ubottu, that's for only partial directories.  Vist >>> www.VALBOT.com <<< FREE DOMAIN VALUATION! or Google >>> VALBOT.com <<< |||||
[11:47] <ducasse> are the newer kernels that the kernel teams build available in a repo? or do i need to download them manually?
[11:47] <k1l> grumkard: all the security behind fulldiskencryption relys on a clean install.
[11:47] <k1l> ducasse: what ubuntu are you on?
[11:47] <ducasse> 15.04
[11:48] <k1l> !mainline | ducasse
[11:48] <k1l> ducasse: but you are on your own for updates and support then.
[11:48] <k1l> grumkard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284525/how-to-encrypt-full-disk-after-installing-ubuntu-12-10
[11:49] <grumkard> ok, Is there any way to list all the packages installed and the repositories added so I can quiclky install everything back?
[11:50] <k1l> grumkard: that sounds like you already have a PPA mess there :)
[11:50] <grumkard> k1l I think I have 6 or 7 external repositories added, everything else is from the main one
[11:50] <ducasse> yes, i know that, this is for a testing vm. i was just wondering if i could add a repo, set it to low priority, and use apt-get to grab the versions i need. seems like i need to grab them manually.
[11:51] <k1l> grumkard: you can get a list of the packages with dpkg --get-selections
[11:51] <procyonidae> Pradeep these are the steps if WiFi never works, but it works most of the time, but not if I let my laptop on, while in standby mode for a full night.
[11:51] <ducasse> grumkard: or use apt-clone, that will save the state of all repos, keys and packages
[11:52] <llutz> ducasse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto   might give you an idea
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !clone | grumkard
[11:52] <pradeep> procyonidae, i think i understand you better now
[11:54] <pradeep> have you tried updating and upgrading
[11:54] <U^1> is there a way to write a bootable .img image to a dvd?
[11:54] <U^1> or it should be iso?
[11:55] <pradeep> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:55] <ducasse> llutz: thanks, i was just looking for the actual kernel repo. but i think i found it.
[11:55] <procyonidae> pradeep it won't connect/the light of my indicator is off and so is networking and you can't turn it on until you reboot. If you reboot, it works normal again. I tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, but there's no new kernel out yet.
[11:57] <procyonidae> Also I need to find where the errors start, for a bug report
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:58] <grumkard> does apt-clone save custom configuration files (like a conky config) and things like panels?
[11:58] <TheLinuxMan> Good Day Everyone! Is anyone able to help me installing my NVIDIA Geforce GT635m Drivers? Google only brings Results that arent working for me.
[11:59] <grumkard> TheLinuxMan have you tried with the propietary drivers? http://askubuntu.com/questions/47506/how-do-i-install-additional-drivers
[11:59] <ducasse> grumkard: no configs, other than the apt sources and repo keys, plus a list of installed packages
[12:00] <ducasse> grumkard: just move over the files in your home dir, most user config is there.
[12:02] <TheLinuxMan> grumkard: It says that its using the NVIDIA Binary driver version 346.82. Do i need to specify which programs i want to start with that GPU? Minecraft uses some Ivybridge thing.
[12:03] <grumkard> TheLinuxMan if there's more in the list you should get the newest one (also check if it have stable in the end). Is the problem only in minecraft? Maybe the problem is not in your drivers
[12:03] <BluesKaj> TheLinuxMan:  hybrid graphics like Optimus?
[12:04] <TheLinuxMan> I dont know, im new to Ubuntu. I wanted to play some Minecraft but the FPS with the Integrated sucks, so i want to use my NVIDIA. grumkard  ill look
[12:04] <ducasse> TheLinuxMan: install bumblebee
[12:05] <TheLinuxMan> using the latest, none says stable tho
[12:05] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  we're not sure it's optimus yet
[12:05] <grumkard> TheLinuxMan it should be using your graphics card as default. Try with other game, minecraft always used way more CPU than GPU and maybe the problem resides in java instead of something else
[12:05] <BluesKaj> is this a laptop that came with 2 gpus, TheLinuxMan?
[12:06] <TheLinuxMan> The Integrated Intel one and the Nvidia Geforce GT635M
[12:08] <TheLinuxMan> It says "intel core i3-3110M @ 2.40GHz, Display: Intel Open Source Technology Center Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
[12:08] <BluesKaj> TheLinuxMan:  did you add the nvidia after market or did the laptop come with the 2 graphics chips ...we have to know in order to help you
[12:08] <rumpy1> hello! last week i asked for help on how to get traction with my bug report(s), i've now uploaded more information and log files, but still nothing. should i just accept that my problems are not widespread enought to gain the attention for developers?
[12:08] <TheLinuxMan> It came with both, i didnt add any other Hardware
[12:09] <BluesKaj> TheLinuxMan:  the you should install nvidia-prime
[12:09] <BluesKaj> then
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !nvidia-prime
[12:10] <TheLinuxMan> sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime right?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !info nvidia-prime
[12:10] <BluesKaj> TheLinuxMan: ^
[12:11] <BluesKaj> it's designed to work with the 2gpu system, TheLinuxMan
[12:11] <TheLinuxMan> okay im installing it right now BluesKaj
[12:13] <TheLinuxMan> its installed now BluesKaj
[12:14] <Johnny_Linux> reboot
[12:14] <TheLinuxMan> okay
[12:14] <mohsen_> hi
[12:15] <ducasse> rumpy1: you can't really do much, except add all the info the devs ask you for. what kind of bug is it?
[12:17] <rumpy1> ducasse: i would gladly post more logs etc, but i get no answers at all! my main concern is bug #1486581
[12:18] <rumpy1> got some feedback from TJ after he saw me asking here last week
[12:18] <TheLinuxGuy> Done Johnny_Linux
[12:19] <Deerhunter102> Finally moved away from windows, i dont wanna go back
[12:20] <ducasse> rumpy1: other than adding all info you are asked for, there isn't much you can do except wait
[12:20] <ducasse> rumpy1: you can, of course, try another kernel
[12:21] <rumpy1> ducasse: well ok, but my bet is that it will expire...
[12:21] <mohsen_> please how install carte ghraphic intel hd 3000
[12:21] <rumpy1> i've tried mainline and stock
[12:22] <ducasse> rumpy1: do older kernels work?
[12:24] <rumpy1> ducasse: no, ive used this laptop with kernel 3.16+
[12:24] <rumpy1> since 14.10
[12:24] <procyonidae> how can I add multiple packages to a bug report?
[12:25] <ducasse> rumpy1: no kernel in 14.10 or newer has worked, is that what you're saying?
[12:27] <rumpy1> ducasse: yes
[12:28] <ducasse> rumpy1: try trusty, see if the kernel there works _before_ installing any upgrades. if it does, then gradually upgrade until it fails. if you can determine where the bug was introduced, you have a much better chance of getting it fixed
[12:28] <blackflow> Guys, how can I set alt-tab to switch only between windows groups, and when switching from one to another that next alt-tab switches back? Currently it's horrendously broken if you have more than one group of windows active.
[12:29] <ducasse> rumpy1: of course, if trusty doesn't work either, and the bug has always been there, then the only thing you can do is hope other people notice it too
[12:29] <rumpy1> i found a very similar (same?) bug filed by a Xubuntu user
[12:29] <rumpy1> there were some comments about filing more logs, but then nothing...
[12:30] <ducasse> rumpy1: did the guy who filed it post the logs that were asked for?
[12:30] <rumpy1> yes
[12:30] <rumpy1> commented there too, no reply
[12:31] <rumpy1> last activity there was about a month ago, so not very long
[12:31] <ducasse> rumpy1: then i don't know what to suggest. you could of course try to file it upstream
[12:31] <rumpy1> could you please tell me how to do that?
[12:31] <ducasse> rumpy1: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/reporting-bugs.html
[12:32] <rumpy1> ducasse: thanks, will check!
[12:32] <ducasse> rumpy1: that's probably your only alternative. but you will need to verify the bug in an upstream kernel.
[12:34] <procyonidae> I filed a bug report
[12:37] <tkxxx> Hi. I need to think of a solution for my class I teach. The group need SSH root access to a linux system so that they can perform some simple linux commands (adding users etc) for their assignment. We don't have the money in the budget to buy 60+ USB sticks to run a Live USB, so I was hoping for a suggestion that would mean the students could SSH to a server. It would need to run on a standard computer in my classroom.
[12:40] <mike112> tkxxx: run a live DVD in virtualbox? (download the .iso, attach to a virtual machine's virtual optical drive)
[12:40] <akik> tkxxx: one ssh login doesn't take too much ram
[12:40] <tkxxx> mike112: We have tried that, although there is not space in the students drive, nor do we have the space to host the image (honestly, the tech support is a nightmare)
[12:41] <ducasse> tkxxx: set up a vm on your server, give the students putty and keys to that vm
[12:41] <mike112> what, you don't have a 1 GB USB stick for an iso? Of course you don't want 60 isos, just 1 and attach it to 1 or 60 virtual machines as you need
[12:41] <llutz> tkxxx: if you really teach people "ssh root access" it's not only the tech support which is a nightmare (jm2c)
[12:42] <akik> tkxxx: oh are you saying that you don't have any linux server to use for this?
[12:43] <tkxxx> ducasse: The biggest problem here is that I don't have admin access on the network and the guy who does doesn't have a clue and won't let me touch anything. I was hoping to setup a PC in the classroom as the server and have the students connect using portable SSH client
[12:43] <tkxxx> akik: Yes, no server space available at all
[12:43] <tkxxx> akik: but we do have a few PC's lying around that I could use.
[12:43] <ducasse> tkxxx: then set up a pc with ubuntu, fire up a virtual machine, and give the students access to the vm, not the host
[12:44] <tkxxx> llutz: No, we are not teaching that, although we do want to give the students sudo access to their 'own' install
[12:44] <tkxxx> would a Xen VM work in Ubuntu?
[12:44] <ducasse> tkxxx: yes
[12:45] <tkxxx> ducasse: Awesome. I will try that, seems like a very good solution.
[12:45] <tkxxx> ducasse: thank you
[12:45] <akik> tkxxx: also lxc containers could be used
[12:45] <ducasse> tkxxx: i personally prefer kvm, but that's up to you
[12:45] <tkxxx> ducasse: Do I need to have the Ubuntu server installed, or can I just install the standard x64 desktop v?
[12:46] <ducasse> tkxxx: use the server image if you don't need a gui
[12:46] <EriC^^> tkxxx: desktop would be better for virtualbox i guess
[12:46] <tkxxx> Will test out both :)
[12:46] <EriC^^> and the guest vm's can be servers, less space too
[12:47] <ducasse> tkxxx: how powerful are these pc's?
[12:47] <tkxxx> ducasse: i3's
[12:47] <ducasse> tkxxx: ram?
[12:47] <tkxxx> 8GB ram
[12:47] <EriC^^> how many concurrent vm's will you be running?
[12:47] <tkxxx> 30
[12:47] <tkxxx> max
[12:47] <ducasse> tkxxx: that's too many
[12:47] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:48] <ducasse> tkxxx: use several pc's if you can
[12:48] <akik> the option to use containers still applies
[12:48] <tkxxx> And split the accesS? thats not a problem
[12:48] <ducasse> tkxxx: listen to akik, too. containers are nice and lightweight
[12:49] <tkxxx> There are a few lying around that I can use. I'll get onto it and come back here if I hit an issue. Thnak you all for the help, much appreciated.
[12:49] <GAM002> where can i get cool themes for ubuntu?
[12:49] <tkxxx> Will use containers
[12:49] <EriC^^> !themes | GAM002
[12:49] <GAM002> EriC^^: Thank you
[12:49] <ducasse> tkxxx: good luck!
[12:49] <EriC^^> np
[12:50] <bxx> I would like to share a unique ext4 boot partition for multiple distros  I thought to namespace /boot like this: /boot/distro1, /boot/distro2, ... During distroN run I could mount the boot partition to /mnt/boot and bind mount /mnt/boot/distroN to /boot
[12:50] <bxx> At boot it would use /boot/grub/grub.cfg only to select the desired namespace For example selecting "distro2" in menu would set configfile to /boot/distro2/grub/grub.cfg and reload the menu
[12:50] <bxx> Is it possible ? Should /boot/distroN/grub/grub.cfg refer to kernel & initrd as distroN/vmlinuz, as distroN/initrd ? What do you think of that, has it been done before ?
[12:53] <mike112> bxx: you basically want a custom grub install that chainloads the distro's default grub installs?
[12:55] <bxx> mike112: actually not, each distro would have its /boot/grub dir (mapped to /boot/distroN/grub) but I have only one grub target (grub gpt partition)
[12:56] <EriC^^> bxx: the mount bind part sounds a little sketchy, the rest seems ok, ask in ##linux maybe
[12:56] <bxx> mike112: so I am not chainloading, instead trying to RELOAD GRUB MENU ...
[12:56] <g105b> spent the whole weekend recovering from my first rm -rf disaster
[12:56] <mike112> bxx, then have a custom grub + menu in the EFI system part. that configfile's the appropriate grubs
[12:57] <bxx> mike112: I am MBR booting on a GPT partition scheme
[12:57] <mike112> alternatively, chainloading would also work, if you installed the distros' grubs in the respective partition boot sectors
[12:58] <mike112> bxx, then just strip the EFI part out of my answer
[12:58] <bxx> mike112: distros don't have a distinct partition, they just share the same ZFS pool (on dmcrypt)
[12:59] <mike112> bxx, then chainloading is not an option and you would be fine with configfile'ing the various grub.cfg's
[13:00] <EriC^^> bxx: why have a separate /boot?
[13:00] <bxx> mike112: so yes the idea is to a have a cutom grub whith its config files in (boot_partition)/grub installed in GRUB GPT partition, AND each distro having (boot_partition)/distroN/grub dit
[13:01] <bxx> EriC^^: did not manage to make grub open my cryptsetup encrypted pool
[13:01] <Deerhunter102> cant you just burn them onto disc's? dvd's are cheap
[13:01] <jjavaholic> just so i can clarify to install ubuntu along side windows 8.0 machine with an i7 I have to download AMD64.iso? for vivid?
[13:01] <mike112> bxx: you can load a grub.cfg from within another grub.cfg, that's called configfile
[13:02] <bxx> mike112: yeah, will it open a new menu ?
[13:02] <mike112> bxx: yes, it will
[13:04] <bxx> mike112: great, so the only issue is to patch grub templates in EVERY distro to refer to correct kernel & initrd , eg in (boot partition)/distroN/
[13:04] <bxx> mike112: I hoped there would be a grub mapping mechanism to apply my namespaces automatically
[13:05] <mike112> bxx: hopefully, one will be developed in the future with btrfs (the mainstream distros already implement your scheme on btrfs, except for the additional grub)
[13:06] <bxx> mike112: eg configfile ()/distro1/grub/grub.cfg would automatically prefix linux & initrd commands with ()/distro1/
[13:07] <EriC^^> bxx: when you run configfile ()/grub.cfg it will load the other menu that has everything it needs to boot the distro,
[13:07] <mike112> uhm, another issue is that you need to update the root= parameter in the linux command line, to reflect the subvolume
[13:07] <bxx> mike112: yes my ultimate goal is to automatically generate grub configs for my ZFS roots, even clones from snapshots
[13:08] <mike112> bxx: then you have to edit the /etc/grub.d scripts accordingly. I am not aware of an already implemented solution for that
[13:08] <bxx> EriC^^: no I think the paths for linux & initrd do not include the namespacing (distroN)
[13:09] <mike112> as I said, you may have more luck with btrfs in this respect - the subvol= parameter is updated autopmatically as far as I know
[13:09] <mike112> I am not sure about ZFS though.
[13:10] <bxx> mike112: in zfs I use the following boot parameters:
[13:10] <bxx> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="boot=zfs rpool=$ZFS_POOL_NAME root=ZFS=$ZFS_POOL_NAME/$ZFS_ROOT_DSET quiet"
[13:12] <mike112> uhm, see the root= parameter, it seems the subvolume is already prefixed therein
[13:12] <EriC^^> bxx: the path's should include it, cause the menu was built using the distro and it should pick up it's location i think
[13:13] <kibrom> Got little problem with my DE
[13:15] <bxx> EriC^^: the distro does not know about kernel & initrd path on the REAL boot partition, /boot is bind-mounted from /mnt/boot/distroN
[13:16] <bxx> mike112: actually what i was hoping is a grub path prefix mechanism i could feed with my distroName
[13:17] <mike112> hum, may I ask WHY you are doing all this? seems a bit overkill to me
[13:17] <mike112> what is the real problem you are trying to solve?
[13:17] <pradeep> seems linuxmint and ubuntu use the same repository
[13:18] <mike112> pradeep: yes, 17.* all use ubuntu 14.04 repository + a couple custom packages
[13:18] <pradeep> then they are both the same
[13:18] <Pici> pradeep: Mint has their own support channels, we do not support it here.
[13:18] <Pici> !mint
[13:18]  * kbmaf slaps kbmaf around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:19] <pradeep> Pici, please dont go did i ask anything on linuxmint
[13:19] <pradeep> dont be in a hurry to point finger
[13:19] <Pici> pradeep: I'm just stating the channel's policied :)
[13:19] <Pici> *policies
[13:20] <GAM002> !launcher
[13:20] <GAM002> !Launchers
[13:20] <wafflejock> GAM002: you can /msg ubottu directly
[13:20] <wafflejock> GAM002: what are you looking for exactly?
[13:21] <GAM002> wafflejock: actually i still havent goten a good theme so i am looking for one and wondering if i can change the launcher too
[13:23] <GAM002> wafflejock: http://ubuntu-art.org/CONTENT/content-m2/m168090-2.png   this one i like but i dont  know how to install
[13:24] <GAM002> wafflejock: http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+%26+Radiance+Flat+Colors?content=168090 Preview 2
[13:26] <wafflejock> GAM002: hmm well I'm on Ubuntu Gnome and use the numix icons but used the gnome-tweak-tool for adjusting my theme setup not sure if there is an alternative way but you can install unity-tweak then yo should be able to get that theme and select it in there
[13:26] <wafflejock> you*
[13:27] <GAM002> wafflejock: how tin install unity tweak?
[13:27] <GAM002> via terminal?
[13:27] <wafflejock> yeah sudo apt-get install unity-tweak, should do it
[13:28] <wafflejock> GAM002: then in the dash just type unity tweak and you'll get it
[13:28] <GAM002> ok
[13:28] <k1l> *unity-tweak-tool
[13:28] <wafflejock> oh thanks k1
[13:28] <GAM002> ?
[13:28] <wafflejock> GAM002: should be unity-tweak-tool package not unity-tweak apparently
[13:29] <wafflejock> !info unity-tweak-tool
[13:29] <GAM002> ok thanks
[13:31] <GAM002> hmm its quete amazing that many of the packages on ubuntu/linux are extremely compressed and gets big when installed 325 kb=2550 kb
[13:31] <GAM002> ok i finished installing tweak tool
[13:32] <GAM002> nice thats a pretty toool
[13:32] <paultjuh> anyone know hot to get an older version of oracle java 8?
[13:32] <chenbotang> hello,everyone
[13:33] <OerHeks> paultjuh, not, it depends on Oracle keeping old versions on their server, which they do not.
[13:33] <paultjuh> OerHeks: mmh that is shit
[13:34] <paultjuh> just moved everything from an old crappy elasticsearch to a new cluster, now the backups are not working
[13:34] <OerHeks> paultjuh, no, it is safe ( and watch your language here please)
[13:34] <paultjuh> sorry about that
[13:35] <paultjuh> OerHeks: why is it safe? you expect versions to be at least backwards compatible but they are not
[13:35] <GAM002> wafflejock: you there?
[13:36] <wafflejock> GAM002: yup good to just ask the channel though unless you think I have some specific info or a specific question for me, I bounce around between channels and sometimes do work :)
[13:37] <wafflejock> GAM002: also I'm mostly just a user and advocate but there are some better experts in here
[13:37] <paultjuh> anyone knows where to retrieve an older version of oracle java 8?
[13:39] <GAM002> wafflejock: sorry i didnt thought of that
[13:39] <GAM002> anyone know any way to get notifications on ubuntu?
[13:39] <paultjuh> anyone knows where to retrieve an older version of oracle java 8, the newest version is backwards incompatible?
[13:42] <paultjuh> anyone knows where to retrieve an older version of oracle java 8, the newest version is backwards incompatible?
[13:43] <OerHeks> paultjuh, oracle is a 3th party, they do not provide old unsafe versions. if your software in incompatible, send them a bugreport
[13:43] <GAM002> How to install a theme to unity tweak tool?
[13:43] <k1l> paultjuh: repeating too often is just getting annoying. if no one knows in here try to ask or look in other support places or ask oracle
[13:43] <systemd0wn> Question, I've installed numnerous things from source using a script. However, It didn't uninstall everything when I asked it to. So now I have libs all over the place. Does anyone know the best way to go about tracking these down and removing them?
[13:43] <paultjuh> OerHeks: it is elasticsearch which is apparently incompatible
[13:44] <OerHeks> paultjuh, so? ask elastisearch for an update then?
[13:44] <paultjuh> OerHeks: also: open a bug report is not a solution to the problem at the moment
[13:44] <paultjuh> OerHeks: there is a bug report for elasticsearch
[13:44] <paultjuh> OerHeks: the problem is, I now have about 300GB of non backed up data
[13:45] <akik> paultjuh: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-javase8-2177648.html
[13:45] <OerHeks> paultjuh,  OpenJDK should work fine with  OpenJDK
[13:45] <paultjuh> OerHeks: switching JDK doesn't really sound reliable
[13:46] <OerHeks> well elasticsearch sounds not reliable to me, as it is not in our repos ;-D
[13:47] <OerHeks> So don't blame ubuntu, but elasticseach
[13:47] <paultjuh> OerHeks: you are very unhelpful, I'm trying to solve a problem
[13:47] <paultjuh> OerHeks: I'm not blaming ubuntu, just trying to get some help
[13:47] <mcphail> paultjuh: this is offtopic here
[13:47] <akik> paultjuh: i just pasted the link you need. did you check it out?
[13:47] <paultjuh> akik: thanks, I think I found what I need
[13:48] <koboi> who indonesian people?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !indonesia|koboi,
[13:48] <paultjuh> mcphail: I'm asking for help with a repo, and I just get solutions and more problems, not sure what is going on here
[13:49] <paultjuh> I mean: i get no solutions, and only more problems, and solutions which are not really solutions, but akik helped in the end
[13:49] <mcphail> paultjuh: I'm not saying it isn't frustrating, but it is offotpic here
[13:50] <koboi> there is no one people. i need help to do remastering ubuntu. who can help me?
[13:50] <k1l> paultjuh: maybe its not us answering you that is the issue, but the setup you demand to get to work?
[13:51] <paultjuh> k1l: not sure what is going on. I'm trying to get an older version of a package on a repo, normally those are available for rollback
[13:51] <paultjuh> k1l: elasticsearch is not a weird setup
[13:52] <EmanuelNJ> Hello. I followed the guiide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer to setup a PPP server. When I connect from my Windows 10 systemd it drops all internet connectivity. Any advise (other than getting rid of windows)
[13:52] <k1l> paultjuh: no. not for that sort of packages that are heavyly security issues
[13:52] <lyle> Hello all
[13:53] <lyle> I am new to irc and don't know anything. Could anyone guide me please.
[13:53] <k1l> !irc | lyle
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !details | lyle,
[13:53] <paultjuh> k1l: rollback should always be possible, especially if it is backwards incompatible
[13:54] <k1l> paultjuh: you demand it and get aggressive if you dont get the answers you like. but that looks very different from a more objective standpoint. talk to elasticsearch to get their stuff updated.
[13:55] <koboi> !irc
[13:55] <TopGear> I'm trying to connect to a Cisco VPN via the nm-applet, but when I try to connect it hands me this error: "(nm-applet:17441): nm-applet-WARNING **: VPN Connection activation failed: () Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/19' failed in libnm-glib." What could I do about it?
[13:55] <paultjuh> k1l: I slipped my thong the first time, not even targeting ubuntu or th eguy who answered me, I apoligized for that
[13:57] <paultjuh> k1l: not demanding anything, but a solution: there is no solution is not really helping, saying that I'm stupid for using elasticsearch is weird, this is not show shady software
[13:57] <cfhowlett> paultjuh, understood.  you want to use.  it's STILL off-topic here.  can we move on?
[13:58] <OerHeks> paultjuh, thanks for the rant: openjdk should work just fine...
[13:58] <paultjuh> just pointing out that this channel doesn't seem to be very welcoming
[13:58] <OerHeks> ...
[13:58] <paultjuh> OerHeks: OpenJDK has signifcant differences
[13:59] <k1l> paultjuh: stop it right now! we were very welcoming to your and your not-ubuntu-issue.
[13:59] <k1l> paultjuh: so talk to a) elasticsearch to get their stuff sorted to support actual software  or b) talk to oracle to provide old and outdated and insecure java versions.
[14:00] <Lewix> hello guys
[14:01] <Lewix> I'm tired of sudoing all the time - I thought su was to use admin privilege for a few minutes
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Lewix, man su       will inform you that it allows you to act as another user.
[14:01] <k1l> Lewix: if you want a root shell use "sudo -i" but be aware to not accidently run commands there that are not meant to be run with root
[14:01] <auronandace> Lewix: all the time? what are you doing all the time that requires sudo?
[14:03] <paultjuh> k1l: I could have accepted an offtopic, except I got attacks on myself because I use elasticsearch which is not friendly at all, now I was trying to explain where I'm coming from which pissed me off, but that is also offtopic, thanks for that, bye
[14:08] <ule> hi there! For some reason, my nginx are logging everything on /var/log/nginx/access.log.1 instead of logging on access.log. The problem is that logrotate are not working cuz it tryes to verify access.log that is always empty
[14:09] <ule> Do you guys know how to solve it?
[14:10] <pbx> ule, sounds like an #nginx question
[14:10] <EmanuelNJ> Hello. I followed the guiide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer to setup a PPP server. When I connect from my Windows 10 systemd it drops all internet connectivity. Any advise (other than getting rid of windows)
[14:11] <ule> pbx: thanks but I just found something here on google
[14:11] <ule> http://serverfault.com/questions/639128/nginx-logging-to-access-log-1-instead-of-access-log-logrotate-failing
[14:11] <ule> same problem here.. I'm gonna try to change the user on logrotate
[14:13] <pbx> good find ulkesh
[14:17] <lyle> nick lyle_abhi
[14:18] <cfhowlett> !nick | lyle
[14:18] <lyle> nick abc
[14:19] <Johnny_Linux>  /
[14:21] <nadrimajstor> Hello everyone...
[14:22] <nadrimajstor> I'm having a bit of an issue with thermal printers with a high volume of print jobs.
[14:22] <nadrimajstor> A couple of machines running Ubuntu with CUPS 1.7 tend to queue up jobs for Citizen USB thermal printer.
[14:22] <EmanuelNJ> Hello. I followed the guiide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer to setup a PPP server. When I connect from my Windows 10 systemd it drops all internet connectivity. Any advise (other than getting rid of windows)
[14:23] <nadrimajstor> Like, two jobs in queue will delay printing up to cca 10 sec.
[14:24] <topmot> nardrimajstor - you should be more worried about oestrogen increases from bispehnol A exposure.

[14:25] <rsv> i have an embedded system running ubuntu 15.04. when i add a new user and reboot the system. i am able to login providing the password. but the screen is blank
[14:26] <rsv> am able to move the mouse though
[14:26] <rsv> what could be the issue. do i need to give some permissions?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> rsv, and this ONLY manifests on the new user?  test the guest account.
[14:28] <rsv> cfhowlett: its black on the guest account as well
[14:28] <rsv> so, only one user account, everything is working fine
[14:28] <rsv> cfhowlett: what could be the problem
[14:29] <cfhowlett> rsv, thinking ... slowly ...
[14:29] <cfhowlett> rsv, does your admin account still work as expected?
[14:29] <rsv> yes it does
[14:30] <cfhowlett> rsv, truly weird.  black screen is usually a nomodeset thing, but it effects all accounts.
[14:33] <ducasse> rsv: you could look at the logs in /var/log/lightdm and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any hints of anything going wrong there.
[14:33] <rsv> yep, i am checking
[14:48] <EmanuelNJ> Hello. I followed the guiide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer to setup a PPP server. When I connect from my Windows 10 systemd it drops all internet connectivity. Any advise (other than getting rid of windows)
[14:49] <pbx> EmanuelNJ, you're saying the ppp server dies entirely when that one windows client connects? any clues in the server logs?
[14:49] <TJ-> EmanuelNJ: That sounds as if the Windows clients are using the PPTP connection as their default route, so unless the PPTP server also does Internet routing/masquerading for them, that is expected.
[14:50] <EmanuelNJ> pbx, No I'm saying the Windows System loses it's connction to the internet. windows says the connection is limited. I believe the guide I used setups the PPTP server to do internet routing
[14:51] <TJ-> EmanuelNJ: change the Windows client settings to NOT use the connection as the default route
[14:52] <EmanuelNJ> TJ-,  Let me look into that
[14:54] <rsv> how can i find out to which groups a user belongs to
[14:55] <TJ-> rsv: "groups"
[14:56] <Roland> Anyone want to help a semi-noob with random logging out issues both before and after an Nvidia update? If not maybe a point towards where to look/start.
[14:56] <rmc3> Haven't been able to find an answer in the documentation about this: I see that the Ubuntu installer supports using Anaconda-style kickstarts. Is the kssendmac kernel parameter supported for sending the MAC of the interface that's in use to the server providing the kickstart as a parameter?
[14:57] <EmanuelNJ> TJ-, I'm going to have to ask on a Windows help site on how to do that. I don't see the option on a quick glance
[14:57] <rsv> TJ-: i have a user. how do i find out which all groups he belongs to
[14:57] <rsv> TJ-: got it
[14:57] <TJ-> rsc "groups $USER"
[14:57] <TJ-> rsv:  "groups $USER"
[15:00] <Roland> Anyone want to help a semi-noob with random logging out issues both before and after an Nvidia update? If not maybe a point towards where to look/start.
[15:01] <Emanuel> TJ-, Actully I just tested again and wile Windows says it lost connection PUTTY still has the SSH session working. It looks likle the PPP server is not giving a default gatewway out. How do I fix that?
[15:02] <reisio> Roland: if it's before and after, what's the update have to do with it
[15:03] <Roland> well I thought my issue was that I was just using the intel drivers so I decided to go with nvidia
[15:03] <Roland> but it's still happening
[15:03] <reisio> so the graphics aren't related
[15:05] <Roland> happens with various things I do or navigate to, but not consistently
[15:05] <reisio> what happens when you're logged out?
[15:05] <Roland> Seems to happen most with visually intense programs/apps
[15:06] <Roland> it just goes back to the login screen
[15:06] <Roland> and I have to log back in and rstart w/e I was doing
[15:07] <Roland> basically I'm having severe display manager issues
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Roland, let's not guess.  check your logs
[15:08] <K1Du> hi
[15:08] <reisio> K1Du: hi
[15:08] <reisio> Roland: on a laptop?
[15:09] <Roland> (II) intel(G0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  142.00  1920 2028 2076 2100  1080 1090 1100 1126 -hsync -vsync (67.6 kHz eP)
[15:09] <Roland> Yes I am
[15:09] <Roland> reporting 4 4 16 132
[15:10] <Roland> (II) intel(G0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on eDP1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[15:13] <TJ-> Roland: Does the laptop have Nvidia Optimus hybrid GPUs?
[15:18] <Ivoah> Is the version of synergy in the Ubuntu repos the latest?
[15:19] <Botchla> Ivoah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=synergy&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[15:20] <Roland> Aaaand I'm back. Happened again.
[15:20] <TJ-> Roland: Does the laptop have Nvidia Optimus hybrid GPUs?
[15:22] <Roland> I have a GeForce GTX 860M, so I think so?
[15:23] <rory-> Can I set up an ssh config file "dynamically" such that "ssh foo" becomes HostName bastion.foo.blah.com ?
[15:24] <rory-> I have a bajillion environments
[15:24] <TJ-> Roland: There's probably some issue with the nvidia-prime part that manages switching from integrated GPU to discrete. That can depend on the type of hybrid the laptop model uses: Hardware Multiplexed (MUX) or not (MUXless) - the latter being problematic in many cases
[15:24] <macjack> Hello everyone
[15:24] <macjack> I was wondering does 14.04.3 release yet?
[15:25] <TJ-> rory-: Yes. add configurations in $HOME/.ssh/config. See "man ssh_config"
[15:25] <rory-> macjack: Yes, it was released on 6th August https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-August/000200.html
[15:25] <macjack> rory-: Thanks :)
[15:25] <rory-> TJ-: Yes I know where to put ssh configs, but I need it to work for any value of foo
[15:25] <rory-> TJ-: Not just ones I specifically configure
[15:26] <rory-> If not I can make some little wrapper to use in place of the ssh binary. I just wanted to know if there was a neat way to do it "natively"
[15:26] <TJ-> rory-: Use 'default; settings which are then over-ridden if necessary per-host
[15:26] <rory-> I'm imagining something like
[15:26] <rory-> Host *
[15:27] <rory->     HostName bastion.$host.example.com
[15:27] <TJ-> rory-: I think what you want is the Match directive
[15:27] <rory-> OK thanks TJ- I'll take a look into that
[15:27] <macjack> rory-: I found, however, "README.diskdefines" in each single ISO file which I downloaded will show "Beta" actually
[15:28] <macjack> rory-: I verify the checksum is correctly
[15:28] <macjack> rory-: is it an error or typo?
[15:28] <macjack> Thanks
[15:30] <rory-> macjack: No idea. If the checksum is good then don't worry about it