[00:00] <lenix_> i hope you understand :P
[00:00] <Forest> imaginator: my firefox doesn't show java though
[00:00] <Fryguy--> lenix_: well you'll have to update /etc/network/interfaces so that eth1 gets an IP, and then you'll have to add a static route to the routing table for it
[00:00] <Cew27> anyone looking for a forum that isnt overcrowded join www.linux-forums.co.uk
[00:00] <imaginator> Forest: ok.  What does ls -l list for the libjavaplugin_oji.so?    Does that path exist?
[00:00] <rizkhan> hi
[00:00] <Forest> imaginator: wait, is the link directly to the libjava thing?
[00:00] <Fryguy--> lenix_: to go alongside the default route to your adsl modem, otherwise you'll be on 2 separate subnets that won't be able to communicate
[00:00] <imaginator> Forest: yes
[00:01] <Forest> imaginator: because currently it is in the /ns7 folder
[00:01] <lenix_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m1f85472f  .. here is my hosts file
[00:01] <rizkhan> i have a small question regarding ubuntu
[00:01] <rizkhan> if anyone coudl help
[00:01] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[00:01] <Forest> imaginator: i'll fix that right now
[00:01] <xhuangzi> rizkhan, Don't ask to to ask
[00:02] <xhuangzi> beat me to it
[00:02] <rizkhan> is there a way to specify if i want to run an applicaiton on cpu2 if have a dual core system
[00:02] <Storrgie> Jack_Sparrow: ever setup raid?
[00:02] <rizkhan> i can compile using -j
[00:02] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: why not just allow linux to manage processes for you?  It's going to do a better job of managing cpu resources than you will
[00:02] <xhuangzi> rizkhan yes
[00:02] <imaginator> rizkhan: the taskset program
[00:02] <s3a> do feature suggestions go into brainstorm or elsewhere?
[00:03] <protractor> no patch/new package for LICQ?
[00:03] <matthew__> how can I change the default program that runs when I insert a Music Player?
[00:03] <lenix_> Fryguy--, please be a bit patient with me, im still all new to the stuff.. here is my /etc/network http://pastebin.com/m54ade14b
[00:03] <Fryguy--> protractor: no
[00:03] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?
[00:03] <lenix_> can you tell me what to do exactly ?
[00:03] <pulse00> hi all. very strange problem here: when changing the display mode in the ati control center to "BigDesktop", xorg switches into that mode, also the xorg.conf is changed. but after a restart, my second monitor is simply a clone of the first again.
[00:03] <rizkhan> well .. m running 2 Open dynamic engine apps ..  n the other cpu is idle .. so want to use that
[00:03] <Terabyte> hey, on ssh, how can i search for a file (say i know its called home.php)
[00:03] <EagleScreen> if i compile and install a new gspca driver will it replace the default gspca in Ubuntu??
[00:03] <Fryguy--> lenix_: you'll have to add eth1 to that list, should just be able to do auto eth1
[00:04] <supertanker> How can I put ubuntu on my flash drive?
[00:04] <bazhang> !usb
[00:04] <supertanker> Do I have to restart my computer and run through the installer, or can I just put the live image on it somehow?
[00:04] <Fryguy--> supertanker: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+can+i+put+ubuntu+on+my+flash+drive&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:04] <protractor> Fryguy: when it will released?
[00:05] <lukuspukus> matthew__, system - preferences - preferred applications
[00:05] <lenix_> ok Fryguy-- , i added auto eth1 to that file
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> supertanker pendrivelinux.com
[00:05] <Fryguy--> protractor: no idea, this is ubuntu, not #licq, go talk to the developers of the software and see if they are working on it
[00:05] <imaginator> EagleScreen: I'm not sure.  I would think make install might.  You can see in the Makefile for gspca (which IIRC is a camera driver set).
[00:05] <protractor> ok thx
[00:05] <Fryguy--> lenix_: k, now sudo dhclient eth1
[00:05] <Forest> imaginator: it is working, thanks
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> protractor the patch is done just waiting for testing
[00:05] <Eric7> configure: error: pangocairo >= 1.16 is required to build swfdec....
[00:05] <imaginator> Forest: you're welcome :)
[00:05] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?  ALSO if i copy it back to the folder, still disappear after runing it...
[00:06] <Eric7> at least i guess im closer
[00:06] <Eric7> lol...
[00:06] <Fryguy--> Eric7: so find/upgrade pangocairo
[00:06] <wgato> i am trying to install from a livecd but the partitioner doesnt see my sata drive (its new not been used before)
[00:06] <supertanker> Thanks Fryguy--
[00:06] <ks3> Terabyte, check out the find command
[00:06] <EagleScreen> is it possible remove the current gspca driver from Ubuntu?
[00:06] <Fryguy--> wgato: does your bios see the drive
[00:06] <Tux2K8> I want to install pidgin 2.4.3 on 7.10 , how do I find what dependencies do I need to install in order for it to work????
[00:07] <ariqs> ok, how do I upgrade just pidgen with apt-get? sudo apt-get update pidgin tries to make me update everything
[00:07] <Fryguy--> Tux2K8: .debs track dependencies for you
[00:07] <Tux2K8> I dont use debs...
[00:07] <rizkhan> cant seem to find taskset ..
[00:07] <Tux2K8> no 2.4.3 deb for 7.10
[00:07] <Fryguy--> ariqs: any reason you don't just update everything
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 it will be uphill battle
[00:07] <supertanker> ariqs: Isn't it upgrade, not update?
[00:07] <Eric7> apt-cache search pangocairo
[00:07] <Eric7> nothing found...
[00:07] <supertanker> ariqs: update iirc updates apt otse;f
[00:07] <Gazingson> hi
[00:07] <wgato> fryguy:  i think so.  the bios on this new mb only lets me change the boot options and hard drive is listed and when i chose it, it reports no OS found
[00:07] <ariqs> yeah, it is upgrade actually, my bad. But that's what I had tried. I just typed it wrong in here.
[00:07] <rizkhan> got it .. thanks fryguy
[00:07] <Eric7> should i search for pango lol?
[00:07] <Fryguy--> Eric7: seriously, use some common sense here, the same thing has happened to you 3x now and you haven't figured out what you need to do yet?
[00:07] <ariqs> Fryguy: I can't possibly download all that nonsense on dialup
[00:07] <supertanker> itself*
[00:08] <Gazingson> how do i download programs made for windows
[00:08] <Gazingson> ?
[00:08] <Fryguy--> !wine | Gazingson
[00:08] <Tux2K8> Jack_Sparrow : well  I dont have any other way to do it.... on 7.10
[00:08] <Terabyte> ks3 only ever seems to find it in the directory where its located
[00:08] <Fryguy--> ariqs: you really should
[00:09] <ariqs> not happening.
[00:09] <Fryguy--> ariqs: anyways, just use apt-get upgdate and then apt-get install pidgin
[00:09] <Eric7> guile-gnome0-gtk - Guile bindings for GTK+, libglade, Pango and ATK?
[00:09] <lenix__> Fryguy--, I got disconnected for a while after I added that line to the interfaces file
[00:09] <lenix__> ;/
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 You wont get it done the way you are trying
[00:09] <ariqs> thanks
[00:09] <ks3> Terabyte, In the directory you run it from? You can tell it where to search... find /path/to/start/search home.php
[00:09] <Tux2K8> Jack_Sparrow:  what ur saying is : no 2.4.3 for 7.10?
[00:09] <imaginator> wgato: you might try seeing in a terminal if dmesg lists your sata drive.  There should also be a way to do that with the live cd too, perhaps via the System menu
[00:10] <Eric7> libpango1.0-dev - Development files for the Pango?
[00:10] <Eric7> sound good?
[00:10] <guillaume> please help someone that has no sound sine last update.. :(
[00:10] <ariqs> Fryguy: is my current configure going be replaced and i'll lose my accounts?
[00:10] <Fryguy--> Eric7: no
[00:10] <Eric7> >.<
[00:10] <Fryguy--> ariqs: no
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 certainly not right away or as soon as the hardy version
[00:10] <quio> Hi.  I am using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10  The other day when I turned on my Dell d510 laptop my wireless connection would not turn on.  It seems to turn off when the OS boots up.  The only way to get it working is to hit the Fn key and F1.  This however makes the laptop reboot on on boot up the wireless works.  Is there a config file I need to adjust to tell the os to turn on the wireless on boot?
[00:11] <guillaume> I dont understand why the song wont just start
[00:11] <Eric7> python-cairo-dev - Python cairo bindings: development files?
[00:11] <lenix__> should I restart after adding eth1 auto ?
[00:11] <xfls> can someone tell me how to set konversation text charset to cp1251?
[00:12] <Fryguy--> guillaume: probably using wrong sound infrastructre, review your sound configuration and make sure everything is working.  If you are playing back sound as a user, make sure your user is part of the right groups to enable access to the sound device
[00:12] <Fryguy--> Eric7: probably
[00:12] <Eric7> k ^^
[00:13] <ariqs> Fryguy: it says pidgin is already the newest version still
[00:13] <lenix__> I still can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> , any suggestion ? :S
[00:13] <guillaume> Fryguy: when I do a sound test
[00:13] <guillaume> nothing
[00:13] <Fryguy--> ariqs: then the newest version isn't in hardy yet, you can get it from getdeb.lnet if you want
[00:13] <Fryguy--> guillaume: well you need to resolve that before you go screwing around with media players
[00:13] <imaginator> guillaume: what type of sound card are you using?  does lspci list it?
[00:13] <brandano> ariqs: there was an article on slashdot today saying that the ICQ network has started refusing alternative clients
[00:13] <Fryguy--> guillaume: try using a different mixer device or something
[00:13] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?  ALSO if i copy it back to the folder, still disappear after runing it...
[00:14] <joshual> I haven't tried to use synthesizer apps for many years, but I remmember way back when being able to use pretty powerful apps (cakewalk etc) on my now way way old machine (and windows). Now (as then) I have a pretty decent machine for the times, but when I attempt (at least in linux, havent tried in windows (dont have it installed)) to use these types of apps its a pain because i get breaking...
[00:14] <joshual> ...up and sound problems like crackling etc...
[00:14] <Fryguy--> boogieman: how are you running it
[00:14] <guillaume> lol it was working great before hardy
[00:14] <Eric7> checking for PANGO... no configure: error: pangocairo >= 1.16 is required to build swfdec
[00:14] <ariqs> brandano: purposely, or just because they are changing protocols?
[00:14] <Fryguy--> guillaume: yes, and the sound infrastructure completely changed when upgrading to hardy
[00:14] <AMLNXUSR> Can anyone recommend and compiler tool i can use on .tar.bz files?
[00:14] <brandano> purposely, it sems
[00:15] <Eric7> so i guess i need pango dev files?
[00:15] <boogieman> like this http://news.softpedia.com/news/uTorrent-under-Ubuntu-in-3-Easy-Steps-49037.shtml
[00:15] <brandano> But that's me, always expecting the worse from people
[00:15] <boogieman> i created a executable @ the desktop
[00:15] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: a tar.bz2 file is a compressed tarball, you use tar -xjf to decompress it
[00:15] <ariqs> fryguy: getdeb says to remove my current version before installing new version..
[00:15] <imaginator> joshual: that may be a driver issue, unfortunately.  What sound system is the program using?
[00:15] <guillaume> I think that even if the device would not be corectly config the song would still "play"
[00:15] <Fryguy--> ariqs: so then do that
[00:15] <boogieman> but whenever i run it, the executable from the folder disappears
[00:15] <tqc> hello
[00:15] <boogieman> hello
[00:15] <ariqs> fryguy: then I'll lose my account data won't i?
[00:15] <Fryguy--> ariqs: no
[00:15] <joshual> imaginator: apparently most of the ones i want to use are jack
[00:16] <joshual> use jack
[00:16] <BLAHLOL32> how do i format my thumbdrive?
[00:16] <tqc> anyone know how to fix the problem with videos appearing like on negative film?
[00:16] <AMLNXUSR> ok thnx fryguy
[00:16] <quio> Hello everyone.  I am using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10  The other day when I turned on my Dell d510 laptop my wireless connection would not turn on.  It seems to turn off when the OS boots up.  The only way to get it working is to hit the Fn key and F1.  This however makes the laptop reboot on and when it boots up again the wireless works.    Is there a config file I need to adjust to tell the os to t
[00:16] <quio> urn on the wireless on boot?
[00:16] <alphaman1101> my cd drive is messing up and wont open i dont know why. Is there a command that i can force it to open?
[00:16] <satan_> hello everyone
[00:16] <brandano> ariqs: you should be able to back it up, but in any case I doubt it gets removed with the program?
[00:16] <Fryguy--> tgc: using mplayer?
[00:16] <tqc> mplayer, totem, anything, ubuntu 8.10
[00:16] <imaginator> guillaume: let's start from the bottom up.  First see if the device has a driver attached to it successfully.  You might try dmesg or lspci to look for your sound card.
[00:17] <Fryguy--> ariqs: it will only get removed if you use purge
[00:17] <satan_> any idea why the frequency on my cores scales down by itself, even though i'm using the userspace governor
[00:17] <satan_> could it be overheating? my laptop is super hot
[00:17] <ariqs> k
[00:17] <Fryguy--> satan_: you probably have scaling enabled in your bios
[00:17] <Fryguy--> most modern laptops have it enabled by default to save power and prevent overheating
[00:17] <satan_> Fryguy--: i thought i had to have that enabled?
[00:17] <satan_> oh
[00:17] <tqc> i removed totem-gstreamer, one guy said to me it could help, but nothing happend
[00:17] <rizkhan> my laptop gets too hot when using ubuntu .. its not that hot in windows .. n i cant get the sensors too work
[00:18] <ali_> any1 use bluefish here?
[00:18] <satan_> Fryguy--: so you mean it can do power management without bios support for it?
[00:18] <tqc> strange thing is that i have thumbnails of movies in normal coloures
[00:18] <rizkhan> ali_: i do
[00:18] <Fryguy--> satan_: yes
[00:18] <ali_> can u help me with sometin on it
[00:18] <mroussel> irc://irc.rizon.net/infidel
[00:18] <satan_> Fryguy--: hmm i didnt know that, ok i'll try it, thanks
[00:18] <rizkhan> ali_: just ask
[00:18] <ali_> alrite
[00:18] <brandano> ariqs: actually, yesterday's news: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/02/1331224
[00:19] <Storrgie> anyone use OSS?
[00:19] <ali_> i am not able to view my code in bluefish how can i see how he design of my html code is
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: ?
[00:19] <tqc> i've searched the google and forum's to fix that, and nothing
[00:19] <ali_> like in dreamwaver
[00:19] <ALPSINC> hello all
[00:19] <Storrgie> Fryguy--: i dunno how to configute oss to do digital out
[00:19] <ali_> and other programs
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: oss is long since deprecated
[00:19] <ALPSINC> how can I get rid of the "mail status" when I log in to my ssh
[00:19] <rizkhan> ali_: there is no preview pane .. ull have to view it using html
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: use alsa or pulseaudio instead
[00:19] <ALPSINC> it's rathor annoying >.>
[00:20] <shingalated> Fryguy: Still not working, was I just supposed to add "NameVirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS> " to the virtual hosts?
[00:20] <ali_> wats do u mean ?
[00:20] <rizkhan> ali_: using any browser
[00:20] <Eric7> checking for GTK... no configure: error: Couldn't find a suitable Gtk version. You need at least version 2.8.0 i know ive asked things like this but what type of gtk is it talking about O.o?
[00:20] <Fryguy--> ALPSINC: check to see if it's in your .bash_profile or .bashrc
[00:20] <ali_> o
[00:20] <ali_> thats doesn't work for me either
[00:20] <Storrgie> Fryguy--: but OSS supports my XFi card
[00:20] <Storrgie> grr
[00:20] <Fryguy--> shingalated: to one of them, yes
[00:20] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: will check
[00:20] <ali_> i clicked view in borwser and nothign happens
[00:20] <shingalated> when I restart apache it says: [Thu Jul 03 19:18:37 2008] [warn] VirtualHost site1.info:0 overlaps with VirtualHost site2.info:0, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive
[00:20] <imaginator> Eric7: you need a gtk dev package most likely
[00:20] <Eric7> what kind?
[00:20] <mistergibson> anyone know how to *properly* do network bridging ... urls welcome
[00:20] <rizkhan> ali_: what do u mean, no code ?
[00:20] <Fryguy--> Eric7: libgtk-2.0-dev
[00:20] <shingalated> yeah I only added it to site1
[00:20] <ali_> no nothing happens
[00:20] <guillaume> imaginator: I got Intel HD
[00:20] <ali_> firefox doesn't come up
[00:21] <rizkhan> ali_: open the file in browser ..
[00:21] <guillaume> lol, did even knew... it 2year old laptop
[00:21] <guillaume> http://pastebin.org/48361
[00:21] <rizkhan> ali: if html is ok, it wil ldisply
[00:21] <ali_> i can do it myself but in bluefish when i click view in browser it doesn't work
[00:22] <Eric7> k tyvm gtg for now Happy 4th of July ^^
[00:22] <guillaume> well, it's stange but it works now
[00:22] <Fryguy--> shingalated: yes
[00:23] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: it's not there
[00:23] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: nor in the system wide ones
[00:23] <AMLNXUSR> "<Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: a tar.bz2 file is a compressed tarball, you use tar -xjf to d"  FryGuy once i decommpress do i still need a compiler to install the app?
[00:23] <shingalated> fryguy: I only had it on one.
[00:23] <Fryguy--> ALPSINC: dunno where it checks then, sorry
[00:23] <graft> are there any well-documented free mp3 decoding libraries (besides libmad0)?
[00:23] <ALPSINC> np
[00:23] <joshual> anyone know if its possible to get jack working on a default ubuntu install?
[00:23] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: depends what's in the tarball lol
[00:23] <rizkhan> ali_: add it to browsers using edit preferences
[00:24] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and why aren't you just using the ubuntu repositories
[00:24] <ali_> k lemme try
[00:24] <imaginator> guillaume: ok, so we're one step further.  It sees the device.  Obviously it attached too.  That's strange.  Any clue as to why it wasn't working before?
[00:24] <AMLNXUSR> its alsa for my sound drivers
[00:24] <ali_> what tab can i fidn that in
[00:24] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and what makes you think you need to install a new version of alsa ?
[00:24] <ALPSINC> does anyone else know how to get rid of the mail status when you login?
[00:24] <guillaume> It was on autodetec
[00:24] <AMLNXUSR> cuz i cant get my sound to work
[00:24] <scsi2> Hi guys. Anybody know if I can burn a CD in Ubuntu Live? Can I just take the Live CD out?
[00:24] <Tux2K8> did anyone here successfully upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04???
[00:25] <imaginator> Tux2K8: yes.  I upgraded recently.
[00:25] <wgato> imaginator:  i've looked through dmesg and dont see any mention of sda.  and its not in Computer - File Browser either
[00:25] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: upgrading alsa almost certainly isn't going to help that
[00:25] <xhuangzi> Hm... can you burn CD's with a live CD?
[00:25] <guillaume> I changed for the right one
[00:25] <ph8> i'm looking for a really basic, secure http server to run on a non-standard port and just support PHP - do i need to install full apache?
[00:25] <xhuangzi> Doesn't seem like you could.
[00:25] <AMLNXUSR> so what will?
[00:25] <Fryguy--> ph8: apache, lighthttpd, and nginx are popular choices
[00:25] <AMLNXUSR> iv tried everything i can think of
[00:25] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: well what specifically is the problem, and what have you done to resolve it?
[00:25] <imaginator> wgato: I'm not sure if sata shows up as scsi/sda.  I don't have any sata devices.  are there any disks detected?
[00:25] <ali_> wat r some other webdevelopment prgrams for ubuntu
[00:26] <guillaume> AMLNXUSR
[00:26] <supertanker> Hah
[00:26] <guillaume> i was here for the same thing
[00:26] <guillaume> it's working now
[00:26] <supertanker> I'm trying to fit Xubuntu on a 1GB Flash Drive
[00:26] <Fryguy--> ali_: any reasonable text editor will do a fine job.  I recommend vim for development purposes
[00:26] <PossibleBit> ali_: use gedit, it should have html highlighting.
[00:26] <AMLNXUSR> well like i said no sound .. i played around with the mixer and sound options .. and checked out forums that had some good tips but nothing worked for me
[00:26] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: what sound card do you ahve
[00:26] <ali_> alrite but nay really good and fancy ones liek drweamweaver
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> soundblasters audigy
[00:27] <Fryguy--> ali_: dreamweaver is awful as an html editor
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: which model?
[00:27] <ali_> no!
[00:27] <Fryguy--> audigy? audigy2? audigy4?
[00:27] <ALPSINC> anyone else?
[00:27] <guillaume> AMLNXUSR: did u test the card in system/preference/sound <?^
[00:27] <ali_> well...yea
[00:27] <supertanker> ALPSINC!
[00:27] <PossibleBit> hmm wysiwyg editors, eh?
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> i think it is zx or zs
[00:27] <Fryguy--> ali_: it spits out terrible, non-valid html that is a maintenance nightmare
[00:27] <ALPSINC> oh noes >....>
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: what number?
[00:27] <joshual> i installed ubuntustudio once, not too long ago and it really didnt feel very stable
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: 1, 2, or 4?
[00:27] <imaginator> Tux2K8: I had one problem with the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, but I worked it out.  It was from some libraries I installed for XF4VNC in /usr/local/lib conflicting and being used instead of /usr/lib's newer libpixman.
[00:27] <wgato> imaginator:  jsut the CD drive, as far as i can tell.  in the Computer File Browser, it shows CD-Rom and Filesystem
[00:27] <gaintsura> PossibleBit: those are evil
[00:27] <joshual> in comparisson to regular ubuntu
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> oh
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> 1
[00:28] <rizkhan> ali: u r looking for wusiwug type of tools ?
[00:28] <imaginator> wgato: is it possible that the drive is defective, or that you have the selector on slave when it should be master or something like that?
[00:28] <ali_> i jus wana confirm u guys had problems with dreamweaver to rite when the design isn't wat its sopouse to be
[00:28] <PossibleBit> ali_: you could try looking at Amaya
[00:28] <PossibleBit> gaintsura: I know
[00:28] <ali_> is it good
[00:28] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: is it configured to be using the digital output by default by any chance?  have you checked in alsamixer?
[00:28] <PossibleBit> I haven't even the slightest clue
[00:28] <EagleScreen> how can i disable Ubuntu default gspca driver?
[00:29] <PossibleBit> since I don't use wysiwyg editors
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> i have but cant find any digital/analog option
[00:29] <EagleScreen> it is for install another gspca
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: it might have some weird name
[00:29] <wgato> imaginator:  its is possible that the drive is bad.  unfortunately i have no way to test it, but it is brand new.  i'll open it up and double check the jumpers
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> iv turned on and off every option there
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: enable all of the views in mixer, it'll be like IECxxx
[00:29] <StevenX> hello all, I am trying out KDE to see how it is, but I can't seem to get compiz-fusion to start on it. Is there anything that I need to do?
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> k let me try that
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: are you using gnome-alsamixer?
[00:30] <keen> is there a common place that programs store their icons or a way to find out where they are?
[00:31] <Fryguy--> keen: /usr/share/icons
[00:31] <xhuangzi> keen, search for .ico
[00:31] <ALPSINC> anyone at all? i just need to know how to disable the mail status thing in terminal (when you login)
[00:31] <Fryguy--> xhuangzi: most icons aren't .ico in linux, they are .xpm and png
[00:31] <keen> i'll do that, thanks
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> how do i find out if im useing gnome mixer?
[00:32] <khaotik> i was trying to load virtual box on 8.04 and when i try to run it a message said i do not have permissions to access the folder that i stored the virtual hard drive on??
[00:32] <Tux2K8> well im giving a try to the updater ... will update now from 7.10 to 8.04 , cant a afford a clearn fresh install now.... (I have backed up)
[00:32] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: rung gnome-alsamixer from command line
[00:32] <Fryguy--> or just alsamixer and work on the cli version
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> k
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> i waasn't doing that b4
[00:33] <khaotik> why do i get that message
[00:33] <AMLNXUSR> nvm i was using alsamixer from cli
[00:33] <iratsu> if i'm string my GPG key on an encrypted filesystem is there any reason for my passphrase to the filesystem to be different from my GPG passphrase?
[00:33] <Fryguy--> khaotik: where did you put the virtual hard drive
[00:33] <AMLNXUSR> iv turned all the available options on
[00:33] <StevenX> can anyone help me get compiz-fusion started on KDE?
[00:33] <Tux2K8> I wonder , I use netbeans 6.1 in 7.10 , should it work as is after the upgrade to 8.04?
[00:33] <Tux2K8> (installed from source)
[00:33] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: you probably have to turn one OFF
[00:34] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: open up an app that plays sound and toggle the buttons until it works
[00:34] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and make sure your volume isn't muted or something stupid
[00:34] <AMLNXUSR> k let me try
[00:34] <alphaman1101> how can i tell if my laptop cd-rom needs to be replaced
[00:35] <Fryguy--> alphaman1101: if you put a CD in, does it play :)
[00:36] <keen> hmm ok...well i found one of the icons i was looking for....maybe i'm looking in the wrong spot tho.  i'm using awn and songbird had a little black bird icon....i can't find that, anyone know where it would be
[00:36] <keen> i did find the egg icon tho
[00:36] <Fryguy--> keen: you can probably right click on the icon and configure it, and then see where it's currently coming from
[00:37] <genewitch> How do i get out of an xsession in ubuntu gnome so i can install the nVidia drivers?
[00:37] <dominic_> 0.-
[00:37] <hammerz> .cc
[00:37] <dominic_> kill command?
[00:37] <Fryguy--> genewitch: why can't you just install them from withing X?
[00:37] <mistergibson> genewitch: I was able to just install the drivers and restart
[00:37] <tiglionabbit> oh no.  I'm in mid install and I'm getting "buffer I/O error on device sr0" messages on console
[00:37] <keen> Fryguy-- it takes me to my home folder =(...i just wanna keep that icon witha  different theme =(
[00:37] <genewitch> Fryguy--: It says "you have an xsession running, please close and retry
[00:37] <foolz> I have a question - what do I do if I want to connect to a Windows computer on my LAN (running Windows Vista) and I have to use a Windows account without a password to connect? it seems like Ubuntu requires me to enter a password anyway
[00:37] <keen> i'll keep searching
[00:37] <stdin> genewitch: use the ubuntu package
[00:37] <dominic_> D:
[00:37] <knokkels> Fryguy--, : Just looked at dmesg in a terminal, this is what it comes up with: ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-rt/sound/alsa-driver/usb/usbaudio.c:1345: 3:2:1: usb_set_interface failed
[00:37] <stdin> !nvidia | genewitch
[00:37] <Fryguy--> genewitch: why aren't you installing the nvidia driver from the repository
[00:38] <genewitch> stdin: doesn't work
[00:38] <Xcaliber009> is there a way to download files from the internet on ubuntu server?
[00:38] <mreyebrows> how so?
[00:38] <mreyebrows> did it stop installing half way through or what?
[00:38] <genewitch> Fryguy--: i have a 9600gt, i had to do it from nvidia's site last time
[00:38] <tiglionabbit> what can I do?
[00:38] <rizkhan> Xcaliber009: use wget
[00:38] <Xcaliber009> rizkhan: wget <path>?
[00:38] <genewitch> Also, the synaptic update manager thing said it updated my nvidia kernel source and settings, but when i rebooted i don't have any graphics capability...
[00:39] <Fryguy--> genewitch: anything wrong with these directions: http://adamspotton.com/node/1
[00:39] <mreyebrows> graphic capabilities?
[00:39] <mreyebrows> like compiz?
[00:39] <genewitch> Like 800x600 75hz generic video card
[00:39] <mreyebrows> oh
[00:39] <rizkhan> Xcaliber009: should be /usr/bin
[00:39] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:39] <genewitch> and no nVidia splash screen like i had right before i ran the update manager
[00:39] <mreyebrows> i just remembered
[00:39] <mreyebrows> i have to fix my monitor
[00:39] <mreyebrows> splash screen lol
[00:40] <Tripsev> Any Zenoss users here that can help me?
[00:40] <mreyebrows> i remember when i used to have on
[00:40] <mistergibson> I'm using an nv15 GeForce-GTS with xgl .. compiz and all on nVidia legacy drivers
[00:40] <mistergibson> can't do much more than that, but it works
[00:40] <genewitch> fryguy: i think your link will work
[00:40] <mreyebrows> did you just install the the new nivida card?
[00:40] <AMLNXUSR> no my volume isn't muted.. in my volume contols my audigy 2 is listed and eveyrthing looks to be in order.  but no sound.. is there a music app u recommend?
[00:40] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: quodlibet
[00:40] <mreyebrows> totem ftw
[00:40] <genewitch> mreyebrows: no, and i did it with the nvidia binary a couple of months ago, and it worked great. but i think fryguy's link will help
[00:41] <mreyebrows> binary?
[00:41] <mreyebrows> you mean you compiled it?
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: nvidia drivers are closed source
[00:41] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:41] <mreyebrows> my bad
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: which is why they are on the restricted drivers list instead of being installed by default on ubuntu systems
[00:41] <mreyebrows> i dont really follow graphics card
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: neither do i
[00:42] <mreyebrows> well i feel pretty silly
[00:42] <genewitch> brb, gunna try these directions :-)
[00:42] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:42] <mreyebrows> 4chan is down
[00:42] <mreyebrows> run for the hills
[00:43] <Simulous> hey. Im kinda pulling my hair out here. VLC wont open. when nothing comes up. Its set to open with archive manager, ive remved it via synaptic package manager and reinstalled it. even removed it and installed it via the terminal and still it wont run. Ive also tried "Run Application" and no joy :(
[00:43] <Simulous> well*
[00:43] <Fryguy--> Simulous: try to run it from a terminal and see if it reports any debugging information when you try to run it
[00:43] <mreyebrows> it just wont open?
[00:44] <mreyebrows> no error or anything when you try?
[00:44] <Tripsev> Can anyone assist me with a few Zenoss questions?
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Tripsev: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[00:44] <Simulous> just tried that and terminal window opened for a brief second then closed
[00:44] <Fryguy--> ?
[00:44] <Simulous> Nope nothing
[00:44] <Tripsev> K... Does Zenoss have the ability to remote manage a PC via VNC?
[00:44] <Simulous> no messaged
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Simulous: open the terminal window, and then type vlc
[00:44] <foolz> I haven't been on 4chan in a while - still descending into a depressing pit of high-schoolery?
[00:45] <mreyebrows> you know it :D
[00:45] <Xcaliber009> ok question #2, how do i unzip a zip file? gzip is telling me .zip is an invalid suffix
[00:45] <Fryguy--> gzip is used for .gz files, not .zip files
[00:45] <matti_> hallo - i*m testing Xchat
[00:45] <Fryguy--> use unzip for that
[00:45] <amenado> Xcaliber009-> you try using jar
[00:45] <rizkhan> Xcaliber: unzip
[00:45] <Simulous> GLib-GObject-ERROR **: g_type_plugin_*() invalidly modified type `GtkMenu'  <------ results
[00:45] <Simulous> thanks for help by the way :)
[00:46] <Fryguy--> Simulous: you modified your gtk theme recently?
[00:46] <Simulous> Only used Ubuntu 2 weeks ..
[00:46] <foolz> If I am trying to connect from Ubuntu to a Windows Vista LAN computer account without a password, what do I enter into the password field after bringing up the Vista computer's files with the "connect to server" tab under "places" ?
[00:46] <mreyebrows> Question: how do i change my video cards output frequency
[00:46] <Simulous> Ive done a fair bit of fiddling yes.. compiz and themes ect
[00:46] <Simulous> :D
[00:47] <amenado> Tripsev-> you meant Xen ? you can manage the guest with vnc
[00:47] <mreyebrows> my montior keeps having a fit when i boot up
[00:47] <matti_> this programm is boring - i'm going off
[00:47] <mreyebrows> monitor*
[00:47] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:47] <rizkhan> fools: isnt ur windows passwd workig
[00:47] <Fryguy--> foolz: you need to change a group policy in vista for ntlm authentication for it to work with ubuntu
[00:47] <ali_> wats r some other webdevelopment programs next to bluefish and screem...( i donot like blue fish)
[00:47] <Tripsev> -->foolz Don't you need a password for RDP or VNC to work?
[00:47] <Fryguy--> ali_: use vim
[00:47] <foolz> fryguy--, thanks - what does "ntlm" stand for?
[00:47] <rizkhan> ali_: someone said amaya just a while ago
[00:48] <ali_> i hate that
[00:48] <ali_> its so messed up
[00:48] <Fryguy--> foolz: network lanman, the authentication scheme that smb uses
[00:48] <rizkhan> oh vim is awesome
[00:48] <rizkhan> use gvim istead :P
[00:48] <Fryguy--> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html
[00:48] <Fryguy--> foolz: ^^
[00:48] <foolz> trpsev, I'm not sure that those acronyms stand for (I'm a bit of a newb, sorry) but I don't think I need a password to access the account on another Windows computer
[00:48] <foolz> fryguy--, gotcha
[00:48] <Myrtti> ali_: kompozer
[00:49] <ali_> isn't that a browser?
[00:49] <GSaldana> can someone help me configure exim4 to send/recieve emails?
[00:49] <ali_> or is it a browser and a editor
[00:49] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: why use gvim instead of vim
[00:49] <rizkhan> he hates vim :P
[00:49] <GSaldana> i want to check email using gnus but i cant configure the mail agent
[00:49] <mreyebrows> fryguy
[00:49] <Tripsev> In my experience if you try to create a remote desktop connection to a PC without a password authentication can fail
[00:50] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: vim is nicer because it runs on any machine, easier to remote, and to a lesser extent it takes up less resources and has better interactions with clipboard etc imo
[00:50] <ali_> i can't use vim
[00:50] <Fryguy--> ali_: why not
[00:50] <ali_> i typed it in the terminal and this other stuff in it coems up
[00:50] <ali_> not the program lie kother programs
[00:50] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes, take some time to learn it
[00:50] <rizkhan> Fryguy: u r right .. but as a start gvim is good for ppl coming from windows
[00:50] <ali_> ?
[00:50] <Tripsev> Can Zenoss provide remote management via VNC/RDP?
[00:50] <Myrtti> ali_: try komodo edit?
[00:51] <ali_> how do i use vim?
[00:51] <Fryguy--> ali_: type vim at the terminal and press enter
[00:52] <mannytu> !vim
[00:52] <wgato> hm sata drives dont have jumpers
[00:52] <amenado> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.4_i386.deb
[00:52] <amenado>   404 Not Found  <--luckily am not using samba..but..
[00:52] <mindquake> !html
[00:52] <Tripsev> Can Zenoss provide remote management / support via VNC/RDP?
[00:52] <genewitch> alright, that worked, thanks fryguy
[00:53] <genewitch> Fryguy--: *
[00:53] <amenado> !patience | Tripsev
[00:54] <Tripsev> Understood. Someone finally helping me in #Zenoss.
[00:54] <tiglionabbit> guys, I'm having a tough time installing ubuntu.  When it gets to 56% I start getting messages like "[  742.315909] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 117982"
[00:54] <SeaPhor> Tripsev, take a look here and see if it meets your needs,,, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=37&Itemid=63
[00:54] <ali_> how do i unhinstall somethign from terminal sudo apt-remove (prgoram)?
[00:54] <Fryguy--> tiglionabbit: have you run a check on the cd to make sure it's good?
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: no
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: apt-get remove (program)
[00:55] <ali_> thats wierd?
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: why?  the opposite of apt-get install is apt-get remove
[00:56] <ali_> but "get remove"
[00:56] <Fryguy--> you can type aptitude remove instead if it makes you feel better
[00:56] <mads-> Hi. I just turned my computer on.. And my X configuration is all messed because my screen and gfx driver could not be found..
[00:56] <ali_> sudo means root
[00:56] <ali_> liek adminstrator rite
[00:56] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes
[00:56] <ali_> wat is apt then?
[00:57] <Fryguy--> mads-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:57] <Fryguy--> ali_: the package management system that ubuntu and other debian-based systems use
[00:57] <mads-> Fryguy--: But Ubuntu can't even find my gfx card anymore.. The driver was installed before, but not anymore :S
[00:57] <ali_> o yea apt
[00:57] <Fryguy--> mads-: so reinstall the driver
[00:57] <amenado> ali_ sudo does not mean root it meant switch to another user and do...
[00:58] <ali_> wat do u mean by switch to another user?
[00:58] <mads-> Fryguy--: It was thru the "Hardware Drivers" I installed it.. And it does appear there anymore
[00:58] <tr-33> does ubuntu have a command line checksum app?
[00:58] <Fryguy--> tr-33: md5
[00:58] <tr-33> Fryguy--, thanks
[00:58] <amenado> ali_ just like what i said, you can have user1 and execute a command as user2
[00:58] <frostburn> tr-33, md5sum
[00:58] <amenado> ali_ more details? man sudo
[00:59] <Terabyte> any reason why i should have this error: http://solong.co.uk/index.php/about       ?
[00:59] <Simulous> really not sure what i need to do. Am i right in saying vlc doesnt like the eye candy adjustments ive made? :)
[00:59] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: you don't have a function called base_url defined.. error message seems pretty obvious... why are you asking in here
[00:59] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: this is #ubuntu, not #iamanoobwithphp
[00:59] <Terabyte> oh
[00:59] <Terabyte> sorry wrong channel
[01:00] <recon69> how do you get openoffice to export to csv?
[01:00] <Terabyte> also its #codeigniter so don't be so quick to insult
[01:01] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: uh, why not be quick to insult, it's a plain and simple error that is easily debuggable and plainly obvious. The fact that you have to ask about it warrants an insult
[01:01] <nalioth> let us be civil
[01:01] <Fryguy--> recon69: save as | csv??
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> Fryguy--: "Check finished: errors found in 1 files!"  -- guess I should burn another one?
[01:01] <nalioth> Fryguy--: we are here to help people, not insult them
[01:01] <pig-wrangler> i take it for a uPnP server to function correctly my router needs uPnP enabled?
[01:01] <Terabyte> fryguy its a function which should be accessible from the page i'm in...
[01:01] <recon69> Fryguy--: only allows save as PDF or HTML
[01:03] <amenado> pig-wrangler-> what exactly is the issue?
[01:03] <genewitch> How do i make compiz a cube instead of a plane? i need 4 viewports
[01:03] <AMLNXUSR> \
[01:04] <genewitch> nevermind, i got it :-)
[01:04] <genewitch> I set columns to 4 instead of 2. noob stuff, thanks again Fryguy--
[01:04] <pig-wrangler> amenado: mediatomb isnt working just wanted to know if uPnP needs to be enabled on the router is all
[01:05] <recon69> how do i add save as csv to openoffice spreadsheet?
[01:05] <amenado> pig-wrangler-> proly your dsl/router has firewalls ...allow it to port forward the ports used for that applications
[01:06] <SeaPhor> Fryguy--, i have watched you help several ppl with their nvidia cards and would appreciate it if you would help me with mine, when you have the opportunity. I do not use envy and i do not have the restricted drivers enabled, i mainly want your help so i can learn the difference between what i have done wrong and doing it the right way
[01:06] <Cyndre> what should I charge for moving of all data from one computer to another for a client?
[01:06] <magic_ninjai> i got some problems, just got some new 5.1 speakers and in amarok i only get sound from the two front ones
[01:06] <amenado> recon69-> dont you have to basically read the csv file from within calc?
[01:06] <magic_ninjai> when i test multichannel playback i get sound from all 5
[01:07] <amenado> Cyndre-> standard hourly rate :P
[01:08] <recon69> amenado: not sure what you mean about reading the file, I just want to export a spreadsheet to a csv file. was stunned that its not there by default
[01:08] <Cyndre> amenado: its all screwed up because he had tons of issues and it took 4 times as long to get the data moved
[01:08] <amenado> recon69-> nothing on the save options?
[01:09] <frostburn> Cyndre, first, support channel, second, your standard rate be consistent in the contract, no?
[01:09] <recon69> amenado: just PDF and html
[01:09] <amenado> Cyndre-> it does not matter, its time + materials..thats how much i would charge if it was me
[01:09] <Cyndre> amenado: no contracat, just told do whatever it takes :), so I dont want to screw him, or myself
[01:10] <Cyndre> amenado: normally $55 an hour, thinking 3 hours for $165
[01:10] <amenado> Cyndre-> well, just watch out if somehow you can not fully recover all the data...
[01:10] <recon69> sorry, was looking in export , save as has csv
[01:10] <r3mix> hey, i downloaded a gtk theme from gnome-look, can someone help me installing it?
[01:10] <GH234WEGD32> WOUIUOIU
[01:11] <amenado> Cyndre-> if it will take you 3 hours, then you charge him the faire amount
[01:11] <mindheavy> every time i put an sd card in my laptop, f-spot autoruns and trys to import everything, every single box in preferences->removable drives and media is unchecked, how else can this be stopped?
[01:12] <legyes> nikin :)
[01:12] <legyes> Jeee, egy magyar
[01:12] <xenoglossia> I'm trying to format my 7.8 GB USB Flash Drive.  I want two partitions (sdg1: FAT32 5.8 GB, sdg2: FAT16 2.0 GB).  Everytime I try to make the second partition in gparted, it always comes out as an "unknown filesystem" and fails to mount.  Sometimes I get a "could not detect filesystem" error.  What am I doing wrong?
[01:12] <Fryguy--> well guys, apparently i'm no longer welcome here. It was a good 21 hour period helping you guys out.  Too bad some people don't want me here.  See you guys later I guess
[01:12] <nikin> legyes :) yes :D sometimes it happns that hungarian people come here
[01:13] <Fryguy--> it looks like nalioth is going to take over answering questions now
[01:13] <amenado> Fryguy---> its okay my friend, just take a breather..enjoy the holidays for now
[01:13] <tr-33> Fryguy--, wait a moment
[01:14] <nalioth> Fryguy--: this is a help channel, not an 'insult the users' channel or a ' i'm a martry - look at me ' channel
[01:14] <nikin> hy... can anyone suggest me a lightweight , highly customizable window manager what can display the window title and buttons on the left side of the window not the top. Being able to theme it would be nice to
[01:14] <tr-33> Fryguy-- could you give me example of md5 from command line? 'md5 ...'
[01:14] <r3mix> can someone help me
[01:15] <magic_ninjai> !sound
[01:15] <wgato> any ideas on why my hd doesnt show up in the partitor?
[01:15] <recon69>  gives Fryguy-- a hug
[01:15] <amenado> tr-33-> md5sum filename
[01:15] <SeaPhor> ohhh, i see Fryguy-- was banned, odd, i've watched him help alot- A-LOT of ppl, i know the ops know what their doing, first-hand lol, and i don't know the reasons, but i hope they re-consider, i've seen too many satisfied ppl that walked away happy
[01:15] <nikin> tr-33: it is md5sum [somefile]
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> !ask | r3mix
[01:15] <Fryguy--> nalioth: why don't you count the number of helpful comments i've made over the past day and contrast that to the 2-lines worth of colorful insults I directed towards one person, who was offtopic and in the wrong channel anway.  A ban was REALLY warranted there?  like I said, have fun helping these people out, i'm obviously not wanted here anymore
[01:15] <SeaPhor> ok
[01:15] <Fryguy--> tr-33: sorry, you'll have to ask someone else
[01:16] <^Ocean^> Are there any Hard drive tools for moving Tracks ?
[01:16] <^Ocean^> Are there any Hard drive tools for moving Tracks, such as the old Norton Disk Doctor ?
[01:16] <mindheavy> every time i put an sd card in my laptop, f-spot autoruns and trys to import everything, every single box in preferences->removable drives and media is unchecked, how else can this be stopped?
[01:16] <tr-33> amenado and nikin, i've tried that. i'm testing it on a file that isn't done downloading and i'm not getting any errors
[01:16] <amenado> nalioth-> i agree with Fryguy, sometimes we get overzealous..give him a break, its holiday anyways..peace out
[01:17] <amenado> tr-33 wait til its done downloading then
[01:17] <xenoglossia> I have noticed, though, that it *sometimes* works if I make the first partition bigger than the second
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> mindheavy: pref --> file management --> media
[01:17] <tr-33> oh, nevermind. they don't match :)
[01:17] <nikin> tr-33 you shouldnt the program just runs to the current end of file... if you want to check integrity with md5 you need a value to compare to
[01:17] <roudaddy> Anyone running 8.04 on a laptop with dual batteries? would like to automagically switch to the second battery before the first goes to zero
[01:18] <tr-33> yea, i have a value to compare it to.
[01:18] <mindheavy> Odd-rationale: i dont have 'file management' under preferences, its 8.04 if that matters
[01:18] <nikin> the easy way is to manualy check if it is the same
[01:18] <AMLNXUSR> FryGuy> is there a way i can get ubuntu to redetect my hardware settings?
[01:18] <wobblywu> was 8.04.1 delayed, or am I just impatient? the release date is today according to the hardy schedule
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> mindheavy: then open a file browser (nautilus) and go to Edit --> preferences --> media
[01:19] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: sorry, I am no longer helping people, I'm not welcome here anymore
[01:19] <mindheavy> Odd-rationale: ah, thank you
[01:19] <crimsun> wobblywu: a bit late, eh?  http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[01:19] <Tripsev> Looking for experienced Zenoss user to aswer some questions...
[01:19] <wobblywu> crimsun, lol I take it all back
[01:20] <wobblywu> crimsun, didn't see it there a few hours back, didn't see an announcement on main just then, 1+1 equaled "delayed" to me -- nevermind :)
[01:20] <erat123> wobblywu: ha!  i was getting worried when you said that... good ol ubuntu
[01:21] <jm2k> have too many Apache process id's on my local server (laptop). Why?
[01:21] <r3mix> how do i install a theme i downloaded off gnome-look?
[01:21] <amenado> jm2k-> how many are you expecting?
[01:21] <__yy_> jm2k: define "too many"
[01:21] <Fryguy--> nalioth: you going to help any of these people? or do you want me to take care of it for you?
[01:21] <hrlr> Any idea when the 8.04.1 ISO is going to be available for general consumption?
[01:21] <Fryguy--> nalioth: wouldn't want to intrude
[01:21] <jm2k> amenado: just one, i do development from my laptop them upload to server.
[01:21] <crimsun> hrlr: it's already available.
[01:22] <nikin> r3mix: extract it to ~/.themes
[01:22] <jm2k> amenado: i have six apache2 process-ids running.
[01:22] <hrlr> crimsun:  The main Ubuntu page doesn't indicate such.
[01:22] <amenado> jm2k-> well apache always starts a few so it can readily serve plenty of users..apache dont want them to be waiting in line for a socket
[01:22] <jm2k> __yy_: i have six apache2 process-ids running.
[01:23] <__yy_> jm2k: you can set how many processes apache keeps around in its config... apache generally uses one process per connection and keeps a pool of running processes around waiting for incoming connections
[01:23] <jm2k> hmm, i realize that but if i'm the only one it needs to serve, why more than one processes?
[01:23] <crimsun> hrlr: try the actual hardy download page.
[01:23] <crimsun> hrlr: i.e., http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[01:24] <amenado> jm2k there is a setting to limit it the number of processes it should spawn, btw, six is not awfully hard on your cpu is it?
[01:24] <__yy_> jm2k: it takes time to spawn a process, having them ready allows apache to respond faster. Like I said, you can configure how many are kept like that in the config
[01:24] <jm2k> __yy_: the processes should die out when no request to local server, right? well i have no browser open but still 6 open apache2 processes.
[01:25] <amenado> jim2k nope, it should not die, its there waiting
[01:25] <__yy> jm2k: no, that's not correct. Apache keeps a pool of waiting processes so that it doesn't have the overhead time of starting a new process when a new connection comes in.
[01:25] <hrlr> crimsun:  Thanks!  :)
[01:25] <__yy> jm2k: if you want it to not do this you need to set the size of this pool to 1
[01:25] <jm2k> if doing development for me on my ubuntu laptop, how many processses do you recommend?
[01:26] <__yy> jm2k: honestly, I don't see anything wrong with 6
[01:26] <amenado> jm2k-> default is okay, you would not lose much resource
[01:26] <__yy> jm2k: they're not using CPU time while they wait, so unless you're desperate for the RAM I don't see why they'd be a problem
[01:26] <lubosz> what is the best method to install the nvidia driver on hardy 64? there was no restricted drivers setup. nvidia-glx-new?
[01:27] <Victor```> nvidia has an amd64 driver for linux?
[01:28] <r3mix> okay, thanks, i installed the theme - now where do i move the theme icons?
[01:28] <jm2k> __yy: basicallly i'm trying to trim out unnecessary processes and finding scripts running that are no longer needed.
[01:28] <lubosz> Victor```: it should ^^
[01:28] <Victor```> i guess they do
[01:28] <jm2k> __yy, amenado: thx
[01:29] <RonLut1> I have a problem: I deleted totem and Installed VLC instead. now when I "Open" files (avi and other) from gmail for example It says me: /tmp/bowling.avi could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Try saving to disk first and then opening the file.
[01:29] <^Ocean^> Are there any tools for linux Similar too Norton Disk Doctor ?
[01:30] <{alejandro}> hey who can help me with a pretty technical problem - I'm not booting
[01:30] <__yy> RonLut1: what happens when you try saving to disk first and then opening the file?
[01:30] <__yy> {alejandro}: don't ask to ask, ask. If someone knows the answer they'll respond.
[01:30] <lubosz> Fryguy--: thx
[01:30] <amenado> {alejandro}-> what have you done? is this a new install?
[01:31] <{alejandro}> this is an old install - I think it's freezing up on the pci initialization
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do NCQ turning off CAP_NCQ
[01:31] <magic_ninjai> i get no sound with alsa, could it be that its not installed?
[01:31] <{alejandro}> wait that's the third part
[01:31] <{alejandro}> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0f.0[B] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do NCQ turning off CAP_NCQ
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do PMP turning off CAP_PMP
[01:31] <FloodBot1> {alejandro}: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <{alejandro}> it's just three lines
[01:31] <{alejandro}> oh that's a robot sorry
[01:32] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: ALSA is definitely installed by default.
[01:32] <xxor27h> can anybody helps me? i am a newbie ) and i have a problem with deinstalint  programs which was compiled and installed fro sources
[01:32] <xxor27h> *deinstalling
[01:32] <phishy> I'm wondering if there is anyway i can have the exact same sensitivity on a windows install as on a ubuntu install? I havn't used ubuntu since 7.10 and in that version having absolutely no acceleration limited your mouse speed a lot. I'm wondering if maybe there is a way i could increase my mouse sensitivity without having any acceleration at all? ( this way i could play games on linux without finding a new sensitivity :)
[01:32] <{alejandro}> this is on an install I've had for a while - could anyone translate that into what kind of hardware problems I might be having
[01:33] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, after system-->preferences-->sound being set to alsa i get no playback
[01:33] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can get ubuntu to redetect my hardware settings?
[01:33] <__yy> xxor27h: unless the source package provides an uninstaller, you're probably out of luck. You could try going to to source directory and typing 'make uninstall' ... but you'll probably need to track down the installed files manually.
[01:33] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, what kind of hardware settings
[01:33] <ubuntu> hey everybody, I could use some help: installing ubuntu (currently on live) hardy on an intel ich9r fakeraid 0 is giving me trouble, it cant correctly detect the raid0, anybody experience with that?
[01:33] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: you have to remove the pulseaudio package, too, and log out and back in
[01:33] <AMLNXUSR> sound card mainly
[01:33] <{alejandro}> sigh
[01:34] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: or, at the very least, uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Sounds> Enable software sound mixing
[01:34] <_2> 2 [root@dell:~] xcdroast
[01:34] <_2> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:34] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: unless you absolutely need that fakeraid, you're gonna set yourself up for heartbreak and exhaustion in the long run
[01:34] <checkpoint> hi
[01:34] <amenado> {alejandro}-> have you tried to google for those errors?
[01:34] <_2> how to run xcdroast as root without sudo ?
[01:34] <{alejandro}> not yet - just checking if it rang a bell with anyone
[01:35] <jm2k> what is the command to check each process id belongs to which application/files?
[01:35] <ubuntu> ubunubi, well, im kinda used to stuff like this :D its just that everybody seemes to be getting trouble using a intel ich9r and I need to keep my windows installation for now
[01:35] <lubosz> so the nvidia 173.14.09 (Stable since june 16) is not in the repos yet????
[01:35] <lubosz> ?
[01:35] <crimsun> _2: gksu xcdroast
[01:35] <checkpoint> is it possible run under ubuntu , a virtual pc 2007?
[01:35] <__yy> jm2k: ps axu
[01:35] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, already did
[01:35] <amenado> jm2k-> try fuser or lsof
[01:35] <_2> crimsun with out sudo
[01:35] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, it will do this on a restart
[01:35] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, what precisely though do you want it to do?
[01:35] <crimsun> _2: then you'll need to do the xauth magic exporting and importing manually
[01:35] <lubosz> checkpoint: you can use virtualbox or vmware for virtualisation of windows
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: already did what?
[01:36] <Victor```> checkpoint: run ubuntu under virtual pc 2007, yes
[01:36] <simplexio> checkpoint: ? ubuntu under vpc or vpc in ubuntu ? and prbably yes , and no
[01:36] <Victor```> run virtual pc 2007 in ubuntu, no
[01:36] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, turned off esd
[01:36] <{alejandro}> hm so I know it's in the PCI BIOS
[01:36] <_2> crimsun i exported DISPLAY=':0'  no help
[01:36] <{alejandro}> I guess
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: did you log out and back in?
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: if you want to run your old vpc07 vm, then good look converting the image, or try running the software with wine
[01:36] <checkpoint> lubosz u mean i run vmware windows and inside my wmware i run virutal pc?
[01:36] <Maarekstele> has anyone used Screem before/
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: no
[01:36] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, configuring 5.1 speakers, i get 5.1 sound from ubuntu itself, BUT i get sound from only two speakers with amarok
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: (I recommend you remove the pulseaudio package if you want to go the PA-less route)
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: convert the image, and use virtualbox
[01:36] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: can't help ya on getting it to work (i'd assume you'd have to manually upgrade to a kernel that has better ich9r support than the one supplied with ubuntu by default) -- but i'd cough up $50 for a 500gb HD and install directly to that before I'd spend 20+ hours doing that :P ....sadly if you change to a newer dev kernel for ich support your ubuntu installation will be unable to be supported officially
[01:36] <simplexio> btw.. is virtual pc xxxx good?
[01:36] <_2> crimsun what's the command to make xorg permiscuous ?
[01:36] <Victor```> simplexio: yeah
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: or reinstall the vm in vbox ^^
[01:37] <checkpoint> kinda problem it not allowing convert image of vmc
[01:37] <checkpoint> cuz thos machiens are from microsoft learning
[01:37] <checkpoint> mcse 2003
[01:37] <crimsun> _2: xhost, but I strongly discourage you from using it, because it's deprecated.  Use xauth instead.
[01:37] <lubosz> checkpoint: running vpc07 in wine would be no good, cause m$ software runs like $h*t in wine
[01:37] <Victor```> lubosz: i ran office 2k3 in wine just fine
[01:37] <_2> ah yes xhost
[01:37] <_2> thank you.
[01:37] <{alejandro}> amenado do you know how to translate some of this? google isn't that straightforward
[01:37] <jm2k> curious: why do process numeric id's skip, PID's: 1,3,4,5,2003,4080,etc ?
[01:37] <AMLNXUSR> xtknihgt, i have no sound.. i've checked online forums and talked to many people about this but still no sound.. iv tried to configure te alsamister  and played around with the volume controls for 2 days now and still nothing
[01:38] <RonLut1> __yy: it works...
[01:38] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yeah i know the deal with foreign kernels and i wouldnt have a problem with that, btw I tried your suggestion already by installing ubuntu onto a third, nonraid hd i built in, sadly grub has issues trying to start windows up because it obviously cant find it, its on the raid
[01:38] <amenado> {alejandro}-> what type of drive? sata? ide?
[01:38] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, explain please?
[01:38] <simplexio> jm2k: because its serial number that runs from 1->
[01:38] <crimsun> jm2k: they're not "skipping."  In the Ubuntu kernel, they're sequentially incremented.
[01:38] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:38] <{alejandro}> so far what I get is that that NCQ has to do with initializing the hard drive and PMP too?
[01:38] <{alejandro}> It's ide
[01:38] <checkpoint> guys what linux distro have inculded vpn,pptp,and cable modem dial ups inside already?
[01:38] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: explain what?
[01:38] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: your motherboard should have either an IDE or SATA port on another controller
[01:39] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: what motherboard?
[01:39] <jm2k> crimson: incremented until next reboot?
[01:39] <Victor```> checkpoint: most linux distros should have that afaik
[01:39] <Victor```> cable modem dialup?
[01:39] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yeah, i attached it to an IDE controller, its a gigabyte p35 dq6 newest bios
[01:39] <checkpoint> well kinda not
[01:39] <jm2k> crimsun: incremented until next reboot?
[01:39] <__yy> RonLut1: what?
[01:39] <crimsun> jm2k: until it reaches the upper signed 32-bit limit.
[01:39] <checkpoint> i have miniport wan ppptp connection to my host
[01:39] <ubuntu> ubunubi, the raid0 is on the same controller i reckon, just sata2
[01:39] <Maarekstele> Victor```: cablemodems should auto connect on their own
[01:39] <checkpoint> and i can not make it in ubunru
[01:39] <JohnRobert> anyone know of a format that's similar to dvd-video (not mpeg2, I'm talking about the video and the menus, subtitles etc) that uses mpeg4? eg - dvd video but with mpeg4 instead of 2.
[01:39] <jm2k> gothca, thx
[01:40] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:40] <Victor```> Maarekstele: yeah, he said something about "cable modem dial ups"
[01:40] <simplexio> jm2k: and after max it uses free ones
[01:40] <RonLut1> __yy: when I save it, it does works
[01:40] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, got it thanks
[01:40] <RonLut1> __yy: I mean, VLC is playing the file from desktop...
[01:40] <thetank> or better yet how do I mount usb
[01:40] <simplexio> jm2k: so max is 2^32 precosesssame time
[01:40] <checkpoint> if i run ubuntu in vmware , i get same as i run it on my pc?
[01:40] <checkpoint> is not it ?
[01:40] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, sorry you had misspelled my name so i didn't get notified... but anyway abotu your problem, what sound card do youhave?
[01:40] <Victor```> crimsun: is that even likely?
[01:41] <crimsun> Victor```: yes.
[01:41] <AMLNXUSR> sorry bout that
[01:41] <Victor```> i've had boxes with uptimes of over a year that still had 5-digit pids
[01:41] <{alejandro}> actually it seems like this isn't a good topic for the ubuntu room
[01:41] <{alejandro}> this seems like more of a hardware problem
[01:41] <{alejandro}> just one I don't quite get
[01:41] <__yy> RonLut1: good, go with god.
[01:41] <amenado> {alejandro}-> yeah, its way too deep
[01:41] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: unfortunately looking at the specs for that MB, all your sata ports are run through your southbridge, sadly. looks like you'd have to use your 1 IDE connectino
[01:41] <simplexio> Victor```: lemmee check that
[01:41] <AMLNXUSR> sound blaster audigy 2
[01:41] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, ah ok.  i have this card too. one very common problem is that you need to tell it to switch between analog/digital output
[01:41] <RonLut1> __yy: :\ what?
[01:41] <Victor```> i've never had a 6 or 7 digit pid :)
[01:41] <crimsun> sigh, it helps if I actually said 16-bit instead of 32-bit.
[01:41] <crimsun> anyhow.
[01:42] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, see if it is listed in "asoundconf list"
[01:42] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yup, thats why i need to get this stuff to run anyway, ich9r is a bit of a bitch :/
[01:42] <Victor```> 65535, kernel panic
[01:42] <simplexio> Victor```: uptime 392 and latest pid 25010
[01:42] <AMLNXUSR> how do i get there?
[01:42] <Victor```> then agian
[01:42] <xtknight> im using ich9 works for sata, but havent tried raid yet
[01:42] <Victor```> most boxes with 1yr+ uptimes are just servers
[01:42] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, start a terminal and type that
[01:43] <RonLut1> can some one help me? I have a problem: I deleted totem and Installed VLC instead. now when I "Open" files (avi and other) from gmail for example It says: "/tmp/bowling.avi could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Try saving to disk first and then opening the file." When I try to save it and then play, it plays well in VLC....
[01:43] <ubuntu> ubunubi, looks like every thread about ich9r is about the same trouble but nothing is ever resolved :/ i hear 8.10 is planned to support fakeraid? do you know if it does ich9r?
[01:43] <Bora> tech007: are you here? I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my bigger machine, and i have the same 3d video problem, any help please?
[01:43] <simplexio> yeah.. my ubuntu desktop get reboot every month or so for new kernel
[01:43] <Victor```> if it actually reached the upper limit, wouldn't it just panic
[01:43] <crimsun> Victor```: no, it rolls over.
[01:43] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: i'm not up to date yet on 8.10's plans, sorry
[01:43] <simplexio> Victor```: far as i knoe it loops over and uses free ids
[01:43] <__yy> RonLut1: The error message you got tells you how to fix the problem...
[01:43] <sharperguy> Umm, by any chance does someone have the package network-manager-gnome for edgy eft? (its the latest live-cd i have and i can't get on wifi)
[01:43] <Victor```> hmm
[01:44] <AMLNXUSR> ok yea my audigy is listed in asoundconf list"
[01:44] <Victor```> i thought they would conflict and the kernel would panic
[01:44] <ubuntu> ubunubi, mh.. okay. thanks anyway, if you get any ideas ill be in this channel as Svenstaro
[01:44] <st4nny> help.. can i see from terminal the size of a directory.. and subdirectory?
[01:44] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: have you tried installing dmraid?
[01:44] <Victor```> st4nny: df
[01:44] <Victor```> err
[01:44] <Victor```> du
[01:44] <Svenstaro> of course, thats where the problems occur, ubunubi
[01:44] <st4nny> excuse me for the bad english.. but i'm italian..
[01:45] <xenoglossia> Hi again!  I'm trying to format my 7.8 GB USB Flash Drive.  I want two partitions (sdg1: FAT32 5.8 GB, sdg2: FAT16 2.0 GB).  Everytime I try to make the second partition in gparted, it always comes out as an "unknown filesystem" and fails to mount.  Sometimes I get a "could not detect filesystem" error.  What am I doing wrong?  Oh -- I have also noticed, though, that it *sometimes* works if I make the first partition bigger than
[01:45] <xenoglossia> the second, and I tried fdisk, too.  No luck.   Thanks much!
[01:45] <crimsun> Victor```: if you're alluding to having all 2^16 /active/, yes, you'd get miserable performance long before then.
[01:45] <RonLut1> __yy: saving every file is NOT a fix to the problem. I want to open files. I am sure it some kind of association problem
[01:45] <st4nny> mm df .. of the partition and not of the directory..
[01:45] <Victor```> st4nny: yes, use du
[01:45] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: so does the livecd install using dmraid, then when you reboot grub can't load ubuntu or does it not even get that far?
[01:45] <Claw6> i have a problem : i cannot mount a partition
[01:46] <Bora> is there anyone who can help me out install my graphic card right? I don't get 3d effect when "changing desktop"
[01:46] <__yy> RonLut1: it's an "unknown error" ... "unknown error" is not "association problem"
[01:46] <Victor```> crimsun: wouldn't it be 2^32
[01:46] <Claw6> its called sdb1 how to mount?
[01:46] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, I dont even need dmraid for setting up on the single disks i put in, the problem is that it doesnt find my fakeraid, the installation is okay for singledisks
[01:46] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, my card is listed under 'asoundconf list"
[01:46] <st4nny> mmm wow!! thanks Victor..
[01:47] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, grub doesnt like fakeraids either though it boots single disks
[01:47] <st4nny> i don't know..du.. :)
[01:47] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: and by "it" do you mean the installer or grub after a (seemingly) successful install from a livecd?
[01:47] <Victor```> st4nny: hmm?
[01:47] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:47] <lubosz> Victor```: wine is optimized for office, cause a lot of development time has gone into it. but try ie8 :D or anything...msn, the software is just too creepy and not plattform independent
[01:47] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, type gnome-volume-control
[01:48] <crimsun> Victor```: no, 2^15
[01:48] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, click SWitches tab and then switch the analog/digital jack option
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, both, grub and installer are quite happy to install on single discs connected to either sata or ide, but if I installed onto my working discs it would kill my fakeraid
[01:48] <RonLut1> __yy: it started after I deleted totem. all the media files can't be opened but all the other files like .doc or .ppt (OO) I can open.... for sure it's a problem of file association....
[01:48] <st4nny> what??
[01:48] <owen1> can u see this? (testing)
[01:48] <crimsun> Victor```: look at /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[01:48] <RonLut1> owen1: yes.........
[01:48] <owen1> RonLut1: thanks
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, for the reference, this is the error I and everybody else gets ERROR: isw device for volume "RAID_0" broken on /dev/sda in RAID set
[01:48] <Svenstaro> "isw_hbfdgdiai_RAID_0"
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ERROR: isw: wrong # of devices in RAID set "isw_hbfdgdiai_RAID_0" [1/2] on
[01:48] <Svenstaro> /dev/sda
[01:48] <FloodBot1> Svenstaro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora have you installed ccsm. or you cant enable any effects etc?
[01:49] <Victor```> crimsun: don't have any SSH windows open to linux boxes
[01:49] <checkpoint> omg guys open ur tv channels fast
[01:49] <RonLut1> So, no one can really help me?
[01:49] <Victor```> crimsun: 99999
[01:49] <Victor```> lol?
[01:50] <Victor```> but I'm looking at the binary emulation layer in freebsd
[01:50] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ok i unchecked the "digital/analog option
[01:50] <Lynet> RonLut1: In firefox preferences, Applications. What application is set to open the files you have problems with?
[01:50] <xenoglossia> Claw6: this didn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24863/?  good luck!
[01:50] <sharperguy> anyone know if i can still get deb packages for edgy eft from anywhere, since they've been dropped out of official support?
[01:50] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, does the sound work?
[01:50] <AMLNXUSR> nope
[01:51] <checkpoint> is it good using ssh-server b4 trying connect to the web
[01:51] <Ajax_> Is 8.4.01 out?
[01:51] <checkpoint> ?
[01:51] <crimsun> yes.
[01:51] <crimsun> ^ Ajax_
[01:51] <khajavi> I have installed libmysql++-dev (2.3 version in hardy) but I need newer version(=3.0.0-1) I this here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libmysql++-dev  WHAT is the interpid? cant install this package on hardy?
[01:51] <Ajax_> Is it available through auto-updates?
[01:51] <crimsun> Ajax_: yes.
[01:51] <Pici> Ajax_: All that 8.04.1 is, is updates.
[01:51] <msjdbgjd> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:52] <crimsun> khajavi: it's the current development version that will become 8.10.
[01:52] <Ajax_> Pici: K. thanks
[01:52] <Currrls> hey, could anyone give me an idea of the performance of ubuntu off of a live USB compared to running it from the harddrive?
[01:52] <RonLut1> Lynet: "Use movie player (default)"
[01:52] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ima try to restart my pc and see if that helps brb
[01:52] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: i can't enable any effect. on my "xorg.conf" i have vesa, but i don't know where to look at xorg.o.log to know which one i need to change vesa to?
[01:52] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: look at this and see if it has any info that's new to you:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidDebug
[01:52] <Lynet> RonLut1: Try changing it, see if that helps.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora do you know what video card you have in that box
[01:53] <khajavi> crimsun: can I install libmysql++ from interpid to hardy?
[01:53] <Ajax_> Is there a way to have a movie as my desktop background?
[01:53] <rebbecca> hello i am new here i was wondering if you can install programs like you did through windows i am trying to see if i can stay away from windows but my luck is running out please help me to figure out how to install programs
[01:53] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, had a look at that one already, I figured those guys had other problems. My problems are solely related to ich9r it seems :/
[01:53] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393 is all about it
[01:53] <Ajax_> Rebbecca: what are you trying to install?
[01:54] <MGrunde> rebbecca, System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> rebbecca open synaptic and search through the list of available and supported apps
[01:54] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: the motherboard catalog says "intel 945gc a2 chipset"
[01:54] <crimsun> khajavi: not recommended, but you can request a backport to hardy-backports.
[01:54] <rebbecca> ok
[01:54] <RonLut1> Lynet: I don't really know how do I put VLC into it... it only have the option "Use VLC Multimedia Plugin (in Firefox)" or browse for the app..... I don't know how do I find vlc application file
[01:54] <khajavi> I need newer version of libmysql++ that is not in hardy repository, what should I do?
[01:54] <undecim> How do I get sound working in ubuntu server?
[01:54] <rebbecca> i am trying to install bitdefeder and some games that i used on windows but i am not sure if i can use it here
[01:54] <RonLut1> Lynet: and VLC PLUGIN isn't working... I treid already
[01:55] <Claw6> when trying to mount a partition (sudo mount /dev/sda1/) it replay : mount: Konnte /dev/sda1 nicht in /etc/fstab oder /etc/mtab finden
[01:55] <Claw6>  (cant find x in y or z)
[01:55] <Lynet> RonLut1: vlc is /usr/bin/vlc
[01:55] <Claw6> any fix?
[01:55] <checkpoint> guys is it good running ubuntu in vmware?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora lspci | grep -i vga
[01:55] <sharperguy> how long should an "e2fsck -f" on a 140GB partition?
[01:55] <sharperguy> take
[01:56] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, it looks like theres hope, philip susi provided some usuable info ill try out, brb
[01:56] <arlan> checkpoint: I've had better luck with VirtualBox
[01:56] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora Do you see any way to enable restricted drivers etc
[01:56] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, for some reason HPA is conflicting with ich9r. ill need to reboot
[01:57] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: kk
[01:57] <RonLut1> Lynet: Now works, thanks :) BTW, why most of the videos I watch are smudgy in ubuntu?
[01:58] <Lynet> RonLut1: What do you mean by smudgy?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora System..admin..restricted driver manager?
[01:59] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight,  so i tried the analog/digital option and i still have no sound.. anything else i can try?
[02:00] <^Ocean^> how come i no longer have the killall command ?
[02:00] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: let me change it to intel and see what happens
[02:00] <crimsun> ^Ocean^: is psmisc still installed?
[02:00] <RonLut1> Lynet: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8449/screenshotvlcmediaplayeui1.png
[02:01] <mangojambo> how do I remove soundcore module ?  sudo rmmod soundcore  is giving me ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd
[02:02] <checkpoint> guys how come windows xp sp3 running for me faster , then ubuntu ?
[02:02] <checkpoint> 0_o
[02:02] <MGrunde> mangojambo, you could blacklist the module.
[02:02] <Dante123> I have an amd +3400 cpu (64 bit) with 1gb.....thinking about going 64bit version if Ubuntu Hardy Heron.....any reason I should not?
[02:02] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, i assume the volume is up on PCM, master, and pcm front, and front, and all unmuted?
[02:03] <keen> i just installed a new icon set and after i applied it the forward and back arrows for firefox 3 are missing....anyone know how to fix that?
[02:03] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight yes it is
[02:03] <mangojambo> MGrunde: that is my card: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)  ... is the module snd_hda_intel ?
[02:03] <Dante123> BTW, kids use this computer for surfing the internet, youtube, flash games, and tremulous
[02:03] <mangojambo> MGrunde: lsmod | grep snd give me that ..
[02:03] <Lynet> RonLut1: Ouch. That's some nasty macroblock damage. Do you happen to know which codec that video uses?
[02:03] <ubunubi> dante123: i'd advise against it. getting flash to work on 64 bit is a nightmare if possible at all
[02:04] <|rt|> Dante123: the biggest thing that 64bit brings to the table is larger memory addressing....with only 1gb of ram I don't really see any benifits for you
[02:04] <RonLut1> Lynet: hmmm.... no... but I guess I can check it, somehow..?
[02:04] <Dante123> ubunubi okay.   Kids will kill me if flash isn't working
[02:04] <RonLut1> Lynet: It's not in all videos... but in a lot of them
[02:05] <AlabamaHit> |rt|:  what about 3 gigs 64 bit benefit there?
[02:05] <Dante123> |rt| okay thanks...will stick with 32 bit
[02:05] <|rt|> AlabamaHit: not really
[02:05] <Gun_Smoke> Trying to start stunnel4 it dumps with "You should check that you have specified the pid= in you configuration file"   However I don't know with the pid should be.
[02:05] <Lynet> RonLut1: Trying to find some common denominator would help a lot in figuring out what is wrong.
[02:05] <ubunubi> dante123: in addition to |rt|'s comments...unless your running scientific calculation applications that need the extra memory (that you don't have) or specific 64bit software--you'll wind up having to run 32-bit applications on your 64bit OS anyway..so you'll gain nothing but extra work and a headache and broken flash -- for no benefit to yourself
[02:05] <Dante123> ubunubi:  you've convinced me
[02:06] <AlberTUX_> hello hello
[02:06] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well it's probably your audio applications, i guess.  Hardy introduced something called pulseaudio that's causing some people problems
[02:06] <spoon_man> so I just tried the Flash 10 beta 2 in Firefox -- and it locked up my system when I went to a Flash-heavy site. had to do a hard reset and downgrade back to 9. bleh.
[02:07] <sharperguy> does anyone know where i could find network-manager-gnome for edgy eft?
[02:07] <ubunubi> spoon_man:: that's what the beta tag is there to warn you about :P
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> anybody knows how to get 8.04.1 updates?
[02:07] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ok thnx for ur time
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> i on 8.04 server
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> i need to upgrade the dovecot package urgently
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> but i cannot find it on the repos
[02:07] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, you could try going in gstreamer-properties (execute from console) and reporting what you see there...alsa/pulseaudio etc
[02:07] <electro> hi i was wondering if there is any good virus scanner for ubuntu linux, if there is? xP
[02:07] <spoon_man> ubunubi, hehe, I guess. My mouse pointer started skipping around, I close FF, and the system continued to slow until I couldn't do anything. Maybe I didn't install it properly, but still
[02:08] <yoyoned> AlberTUX_: if 8.04 is alredy installed, all you have to do is regular updates
[02:08] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, like what is selected for default output plugin
[02:08] <checkpoint> guys what better osx liopard latest or ubuntu?
[02:08] <AMLNXUSR> let me check
[02:08] <ubunubi> checkpoint:: if you need to ask, probably osx for yourself :P
[02:08] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, works :) now for the resizing and formatting
[02:09] <ozzloy> i go to places -> network -> Windows Network, then i see some windows computers, but clicking on them doesn't actually connect
[02:09] <Pici> checkpoint: They're different.
[02:09] <Gun_Smoke> My stunnel conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/24868/
[02:09] <ozzloy> how do i troubleshoot that?
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: goodluck, was lots of good info in that bug report ;)
[02:09] <AlberTUX_> yoyoned: i did a apt-get dist-upgrade and i don't see the dovecot upgrade anywhere
[02:09] <checkpoint> i am just confused ... i dont know what distro of linux to use
[02:09] <checkpoint> ;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:09] <|rt|> checkpoint: well that sounds like a flame bait question to me but it depends on what your needs are
[02:09] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, do you still have the url?
[02:09] <ubunubi> yes one sec
[02:09] <Fungusman> Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew of any white channels. I'm trying to learn more about security
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: lucky you. i had bookmarked it for later
[02:09] <AMLNXUSR> stknight, next to device it says not supported
[02:09] <xtknight> Fungusman, like whitehat channels?
[02:09] <AlabamaHit> My flash wasnt working on 64 bit but now it is working Fine.......
[02:09] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, thanks :)
[02:09] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, You are new to linux correct?
[02:10] <spoon_man> checkpoint, ubuntu is arguably the most straightforward distro, but it also depends on your hardware capabilities
[02:10] <AlberTUX_> is still 1.0.10 and according to the releasenotes it should be 1.0.13
[02:10] <Fungusman> hahaha
[02:10] <Fungusman> Thats what I meant to write
[02:10] <yoyoned> AlberTUX_: if there was an updated dovecot package, you should have it
[02:10] <xtknight> oh lol
[02:10] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, basically im only using linux-hater hardware, next i have to get my xfi to work :D
[02:10] <ozzloy> checkpoint: if you don't know what linux distro to use, you probably want to use ubuntu
[02:10] <checkpoint> gun_smoke : i am but i learned it from videos for abit of time like 1 month
[02:10] <Fungusman> sorry, Ive been losin sleep over an exam
[02:10] <checkpoint> i know the all basics
[02:10] <xtknight> Fungusman, sorryt im not really sure.  try #security if it exists ;)
[02:10] <Fungusman> whitehat
[02:10] <Fungusman> k
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, you should be fine with ubuntu
[02:10] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: you must have an ATI card as well!
[02:10] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, that's fine.  mine does too.  what about default output
[02:10] <xtknight> plugin
[02:10] <spoon_man> checkpoint, what's your CPU, and how much RAM do you have?
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, Sadly, In this case, I happen to be a proud owner of a 8800gtx :P
[02:11] <ozzloy> checkpoint: start with ubuntu and move to something else when you have a reason to
[02:11] <AlberTUX_> yoyoned: i even look it up on the hardy-updates :S
[02:11] <checkpoint> gun_smoke not currect... i need few things. if linux can mkae them so it is good for me
[02:11] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: then i revoke your full linux-hater-hardware card. ati is the clencher
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, anyway, thanks for the help :)
[02:11] <ubunubi> best of luck
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, i have two screens tho *fingers crossed*
[02:11] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, default output is alsa
[02:12] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, what do you need?
[02:12] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well that sounds fine to me.  how are you testing your audio? can you press test and see what happens>
[02:12] <checkpoint> 1.be able run my internet 2.run vmc files
[02:12] <AMLNXUSR> mp3
[02:12] <extas> hi everyone. when i move things from a external harddrive to my home dir, the files become rwx------, and not rwx r-- r-- as i want. how do i solve that?
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> when i press test i dont hear anything
[02:13] <checkpoint> extas maybe u should chnage the prmissions 0_o
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> wait i got something
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> when i set my device to adc capture/standard pcm playback it seems to work
[02:14] <RonLut1> Lynet: codec is: S-Mpeg 4 v2
[02:14] <clsk> hello
[02:14] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, but my music i cant hear
[02:14] <AlberTUX_> bug #189616
[02:15] <clsk> I changed my eth0 configuration from static ip to dhcp. I then set a couple of dns servers (manually) and for some reason every few minutes the system resets the old domain server
[02:15] <AlberTUX_> ubottu: did you manage to upgrade to dovecot 1.0.13 ??
[02:15] <evilbooger> Hey.
[02:15] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, type sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:16] <extas> checkpoint yeah i have to change them afterwards.. but problem is that its my sister and she cant change things like that. but ubuntu mounts things auto, and i thought that i maybe could change how it mounts?
[02:16] <clsk> any ideas how to get rid of it?
[02:16] <RonLut1> Lynet: (?)
[02:17] <checkpoint> extas did utry do it from R00t?
[02:17] <evilbooger> I want to double boot Mac and Ubuntu, which bootloader should I use?
[02:17] <checkpoint> login as R00t
[02:17] <bebin> where can i get smartlink 2801 modem driver
[02:17] <Lynet> RonLut1: Ah. That would be MicroSoft's almost-iso-mpeg4-compliant proprietary codec. You might need the win32/win64codec package to playback those properly.
[02:17] <extas> checkpoint change permissions? ofc i did. but she cant do it everytime she wants music from her external drive
[02:18] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, with mplayer you can try "mplayer -ao alsa /path/to/file" to try and play your music
[02:18] <AlberTUX_> anyone knows where to find packa ge 1.0.13-4ubuntu1
[02:18] <AlberTUX_> ?
[02:18] <checkpoint> evilbooger :grub?
[02:18] <evilbooger> yeah grub, or gag
[02:19] <AMLNXUSR> let me try that
[02:19] <checkpoint> i dont know gag
[02:19] <checkpoint> i know grub;p
[02:19] <jameslr> extas: set the umask?
[02:19] <evilbooger> oh
[02:19]  * DIL relaxes as he listens to norwegian radio and learns ubuntu/linux da life
[02:19] <evilbooger> Is it graphical?
[02:19] <extas> jameslr ill try that
[02:19] <bebin> where can i get smartlink 2801 modem driver
[02:19] <checkpoint> hmm  what u mean?
[02:20] <Bora> ohhhhhhh noooooooo: my system couldn't start after modifing "vessa" to "intel" i am running off the ubuntu cd...
[02:20] <evilbooger> Are there pictures or is it just black and white text?
[02:20] <Lynet> RonLut1:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories After adding the repository, install w32codecs (or w64codecs if you use 64bit ubuntu).
[02:20] <spoon_man> evilbooger, it's just a menu
[02:21] <evilbooger> k i'll check it out
[02:22] <Bora> what am i suppose to do now? how can i change the x11/xorg.conf back to vessa while running this live cd now?
[02:22] <jameslr> extas: I'd just set the umask to 022 in the ~/.bashrc. That should fix your problem if I understand your dilemma
[02:22] <Tea4all> Should I get an nvidia or an ati card for my ubuntu. AKA: which driver works better?
[02:22] <jameslr> Tea4all: nvidia
[02:22] <jameslr> ATI driver support is awful imo
[02:22] <Tea4all> Thought so.
[02:22] <ozzloy> Tea4all: have you considered an intel?
[02:22] <Tea4all> No.
[02:23] <ozzloy> they have awesome driver support
[02:23] <RonLut1> Lynet: Thank you very much... searched it in google but didn't find... you found it.... I'll try it now
[02:23] <Tea4all> Any external cards over 512MB?
[02:23] <evilbooger> Should I get GRUB 2, it seems to still be in beta.
[02:23] <extas> jameslr is it possible to set a umask on a directory? because i only need it on ~/music/
[02:23] <ozzloy> Tea4all: i don't know
[02:24] <jameslr> extas: not that I know of
[02:24] <Bora> how can i modify /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.config while running live cd now?
[02:24] <jameslr> extas: if the directory is a separate drive maybe - I think you can set a umask mount option
[02:25] <jameslr> extas: in that case I'd just create a cron job to set the permissions recursively on the music directory and have it run every day or something
[02:26] <extas> jameslr yeah that would solve it
[02:26] <Bora> please guys i'm stuck here in the middle...................................... how can i modify /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.config while running off the ubuntu cd?
[02:26] <RonLut1> Lynet: it still happens :(
[02:26] <jameslr> Bora: gedit the file?
[02:27] <jameslr> Bora: is it mounted read only or something?
[02:27] <Bora> i tried but it says permision denied
[02:27] <jameslr> Bora: if so then try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/disk
[02:27] <sharperguy> Man does anyone have network-manager-gnome for edgy eft deb package, I need it desperately
[02:28] <l0fls> hey all :)
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: have you looked at getdeb.net?
[02:28] <jameslr> Bora: make sure you get out of the directory before you try that or you'll just get device busy
[02:28] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: no actually, doubt it would be there
[02:28] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know if Ubuntu on a Mac Pro needs anything special? I want to wipe windows/osx/bootcamp and install only Ubuntu. Are there any hurdles because its a "Mac"?
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: i'vec seen old packages of some things there.
[02:29] <Lynet> RonLut1: Dang, not really sure what other advise to give you. MSMPEG4 v1/2/3 is unfortunately one of the few video codecs that Linux has trouble with.
[02:29] <RonLut1> Lynet: ok NVM, thanks anyway for your help...
[02:29] <RonLut1> :)
[02:29] <RonLut1> BB
[02:30] <extas> jameslr just thinking.. everytime ubuntu mounts a drive automatically, i suppose there is this script running to set the mounts options somewhere. maybe i could change how it sets up the umask?
[02:30] <Bora> Could not save the file /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[02:30] <extas> jameslr to the drive that is being mounted
[02:30] <jameslr> extas: yeah, there are udev rules you can set I think, but I don't think setting the umask on the source drive will work.
[02:31] <mcquaid> i can burn nothing but coasters since upgrading to hardy recently.  i can burn fine in xp, nothing is wrong with the burner. worked fine in gutsy
[02:31] <ubunubi> mcquaid: are you leaving the speed set tothe default//maximum?
[02:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: It definatly isnt there
[02:31] <mcquaid> i was wondering if it might be due to cd/dvd drives now listed as scsi devices.  is there a way as a test to force the drive back to an ide like it was in gutsy
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, there used to be a list on ubuntu.com of downloadable packages, for each distro, but i'm guesssing since 6.10 is no longer supported, that won't be much luck.. why not upgrade to 8.04?
[02:32] <mcquaid> ubunubi, yes max. which was fine in gutsy.  also i even downloaded nero demo just to see and it wont even recognize a blank disc
[02:32] <SeaPhor> Bora, did you sudo it?
[02:32] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: I'm running the latest live cd i have, trying to fix my computer, i need wifi but cant get WPA
[02:33] <ubunubi> mcquaid: try setting it to the lowest speed just for a test burn
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, just put yourself on WEP for a little bit to downloda a new cd?  most routers switch pretty easy
[02:33] <mcquaid> hmm, at this point i'd like to know if there's a way to force it to be recognized as an ide drive (which it is) like it was in gutsy
[02:33] <ariqs> i can't believe that I have 300 megs of important security updates I'm supposed to download. I mean, this is just hte supposedly important stuff. Ridiculous. There are still people stuck with just dialup for friggin sakes
[02:34] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: Well to be honest i couldnt get it to connect with anything. The interface was so bad it just said ESSID and network password without letting me choose what type of password, or scan for hubs or anything
[02:34] <bobbob1016> sharperguy, I seem to remember wpa being a pain in Edgy
[02:34] <bobbob1016> sharperguy, Try typing wpasupplicant in a terminal, see if that gives you results.
[02:35] <Infinito-> it should be a crime,  a human rights violation to still provide dial up internet connection to people...
[02:35] <Infinito-> :p
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: hmm, i would try downloading the package for either Feisty, or Dapper, see if that works...  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:35] <AlberTUX> anybody has upgraded ubuntu server from 8.04 to 8.04.1 ?
[02:35] <bobbob1016> ariqs, I think that could be 8.04 to 8.04.1, not sure though
[02:35] <SeaPhor> Bora, if you didnt use gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then it wont let you save it to /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <bobbob1016> Infinito-, Some people are forced to keep dialup, if they are too far for DSL, and don't want cable, or they might be younger and not be in control of the internet connection, IE their parents control what they get.
[02:37] <SchighSchagh> hey guys. anyone know a good soundcard that's well supported in ubuntu?
[02:37] <Currrls> speaking from experience bobbob1016?
[02:37] <Infinito-> yeah, I know, there are several reasons... but still, inhuman :)
[02:38] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: well ill have to try them all, but more than likely they depend on library versions i dont have
[02:38] <AlberTUX> when are the ubuntu server 8.04.1 updates will be available to download?
[02:38] <xtknight> SchighSchagh, turtle beach montego DDL and sound blaster audigy2 series... (NOT x-fi though)
[02:39] <Infinito-> being young is no excuse... I know 12 year olds that know more about C programming than myself...
[02:39] <Infinito-> ok that's just one 12 year-old, but man he freaks me out!!
[02:39] <SchighSchagh> xtknight thanks. i'll look them up see which i like better :)
[02:39] <evilbooger> lol
[02:40] <evilbooger> GRUB scares me.
[02:40] <bobbob1016> Currrls, No, I can get DSL, I just deal with a lot of elderly people in a retirement home, and some choose dialup since it's cheaper, one lady pays $35 a year and complains when it goes down, and things take a while to download, even though I always explain it's dialup.  They only had the choice for dialup or comcast until recently, and most didn't want to deal with comcast any more than they had to (the community had a c
[02:40] <bobbob1016> ontract)
[02:41] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: I used to help folks in a retirement home before I moved. I know what you mean.
[02:41] <Infinito-> comcast is evil.
[02:42] <evilbooger> Disney is evil.
[02:42] <evilbooger> Comcast is fine.
[02:42] <xtknight> SchighSchagh, i just got the montego.  it's better for music and audio connectivity/etc (not sure if spdif-in is supported in linux or not).  audigy is good for hardware game acceleration, but linux doesnt support that anyway
[02:42] <Bspec> which telinit number makes it restart?
[02:42] <evilbooger> Ok, ca I turn off these comments everytime someone joins>
[02:42] <FelixTheCat> Bspec: 6
[02:42] <Bspec> sweet
[02:43] <wgato> i cant get the livecd installer to see my hard drive (sata, brand new). any suggestions?
[02:43] <SrgSantos54> what up's everybody !!!
[02:43] <CesarRB> hi everybody!
[02:43] <__yy> ps aux
[02:43] <FelixTheCat> wgato: I'd google for your SATA controller (or your mainboard if it's built in).
[02:44] <SrgSantos54> would some mire helping me with finch ?!?
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> wgato I have a command line option that may work for you
[02:44] <wgato> FelixtheCat:  what am i googling to see?
[02:44] <navetz_> can someone please help me, I view my server (website) in firefox but I can ping it and it works. I have a basic LAMP setup for testing, does anyone know what I shuold do?
[02:45] <FelixTheCat> wgato: see if there are any known fixes/drivers/kernel arguments you need to pass.
[02:45] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I fell bad when I get calls from a guy who kept having issues with spyware on XP, I reinstalled XP twice, he thought it was the machine, and he bought a new one (without asking me first) since he thought it was the computer not his "habits", and he gave me the old one, 2.8ghz, 512 ddr ram, 80 or 160gig hd I forgot, it's a server now...
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> wgato To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[02:46] <aib> advanced question: I added APT::Default-Release "hardy"; to /etc/apt/apt.conf and I also added the intrepid main restricted repository to my /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update ,but when I run `sudo apt-get install -t intrepid hello' it installs the file from the hardy dist, not the intrepid dist
[02:46] <wgato> thanks Felix and Jack, that should keep me busy for a bit
[02:46] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Most of the folks I helped had some relatively advanced questions; I was surprised.
[02:46] <clsk> erm
[02:47] <spoon_man> bobbob1016, in my experience, a good hosts file can do wonders
[02:47] <clsk> for some reason my /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten every few minutes
[02:47] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: I never did get a machine handed to me like that, though. heh
[02:47] <spoon_man> but it has to stay updated
[02:47] <clsk> actually it's more like every minute
[02:47] <clsk> I'm trying to set a dns server that I'll be using for a few days, and for some reason it keeps getting reset to the dns server a dhcp servers gives me back home
[02:47] <clsk> any ideas as to why this is happening?
[02:48] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I showed one woman how to use the mouse, and another guy how to copy DVD's.  But the DVD guy knows just enough to get into trouble, he's had incredimail on there more times than I can count....
[02:48] <killer--tux> can someone plz help me with finch
[02:48] <FelixTheCat> clsk: Are you setting the DNS addresses directly in the text file or through your network settings?
[02:48] <killer--tux> is there a websitefor this ?!? i can find it
[02:49] <myr> hey anyone know if 8.04.1 has been released and where to download it?
[02:49] <GardenHose> does anyone know if newegg charges for regular shipping?
[02:49]  * GardenHose can't remember
[02:49] <clsk> FelixTheCat: I've tried both ways
[02:49] <myr> GardenHose, i think they do
[02:49] <kitche> clsk: dhcp servers will override /etc/resolv.conf you sort of have to force dhclient to use your own dns servers really
[02:49] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Ugh! I had a few with some pretty heavy spyware infections, but most of them simply needed some help learning how to do stuff.
[02:50] <clsk> kitche: but it's not pulling a dns server from the dhcp server either
[02:50] <clsk> it just keeps getting reset to my dns server at home
[02:51] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: The one I remember the most wanted to learn how to make movies with pictures. He wouldn't use Linux so I taught him Movie Maker.
[02:51] <clsk> it seems like all my information is saved somewhere and whatever it is keeps overwriting /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces
[02:51] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, He was widowed, and he always got spyware, enough said....  There are only so many times you can say "Don't go to any weird sites..."
[02:51] <jgomo3> greetings. alt-tab from emacs freeze the gnome. I have to ctr-alt-f1 and alt-f7 again to return to normality. any body knows about this problem?
[02:52] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Hah!! Hard to be sensitive when needing to get the point across.
[02:52] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know which app i can use my aim account with?
[02:52] <tr-33> what is a good size for a /var partition?
[02:53] <FelixTheCat> AMLNXUSR: pidgin
[02:53] <FelixTheCat> !pidgin
[02:53] <lordleemo> bobbob1016: i use linux and windows and i love both ive only ever been hit 1 with spyware and was because i let a friend use my computer.? what is wrong with windows
[02:53] <CesarRB> I am looking for some guidance... a week ago after installing some updates the sound died. To test if it was a hardware or software problem I boot from a Kubuntu 7.04 live CD and there was no problem. Btw my pc has Hardy installed. Any ideas?
[02:53] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I got one woman to buy an everex, but she keeps somehow removing the firefox icon from e17's dock thing, I had to put about 10 icons on there, I said "click the desktop, hit the down arrow twice, the right arrow, down again, then enter, that will open firefox"  "No, didn't work" 5 minutes later, I figured out she was expecting the icon to come back on, and ignoring the firefox windows...  Installing the gnome
[02:53] <bobbob1016>  edition monday
[02:54] <FelixTheCat> tr-33: Depends on what you are using the computer for. If you have a web service or email service, I'd make it about 50% to 60% of the available space.
[02:54] <FelixTheCat> tr-33: Others may have better answers.
[02:55] <kyncani> CesarRB: you may try booting your older (which sould still be lying there), the updated kernel may have broken your sound
[02:55] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: LOL ... yeah, e17 isn't good for beginners.
[02:55] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[02:56] <ubunubi> anyone know a good place to get useful desktop widgets?
[02:56] <CesarRB> kyncani: I'm a newbie, should I look for the kernel package in the Package Manager and force a downgrade?
[02:56] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, No, she just had problems since she didn't want to get rid of her windows 98 machine, I had to install a lan card, to get her on DSL, then it started scandisking each boot, I said everex.  Her problem is she clicks and drags, not just clicks, like most of them
[02:56] <__yy_> can anyone tell me how to get around this: 'sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440'?
[02:57] <__yy_> Additionaly, can someone explain this braindead restriction?
[02:57] <Lunks> __yy_: I believe you should use visudo to edit it
[02:57] <Lunks> Maybe this is somehow related, but I'm just guessing
[02:57] <__yy_> Lunks: which I can't do, becuase I can't sudo
[02:58] <Lunks> __yy_: If you can't sudo, you couldn't chmod it or chown it
[02:58] <ubunubi> __yy_ :: choose the (recovery) option for your kernel in grub, and tell it to drop you to a command line and issue:: chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers  -- then type :: reboot
[02:58] <__yy_> Lunks: I changed the permissions using sudo, after the permissions were changed sudo gives that error
[02:58] <kyncani> Lunks: boot the livecd, chmod 0440 from it
[02:59] <kyncani> __yy_: boot the livecd, chmod 0440 from it
[02:59] <__yy_> ubunubi: I'm really looking for a way that doesn't require a full power cycle
[02:59] <__yy_> kyncani: see above
[02:59] <ubunubi> __yy_: don't think there is one
[02:59] <matthew__> __yy_: there isn't one
[02:59] <__yy_> and why on earth wouldn't there be?
[02:59] <jgomo3> greetings. alt-tab from emacs freeze the gnome. I have to ctr-alt-f1 and alt-f7 again to return to normality. any body knows about this problem?
[02:59] <matthew__> __yy_: unless you have enabled the root user
[03:00] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Ah. I know there are ways to handle that so folks with shaky hands don't get the result of accidental dragging when clicking. Just don't know offhand.
[03:00] <matthew__> __yy_: then login as root and change it
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: Why did you change it? =P
[03:00] <__yy_> matthew__: I have not, but I will once I fix this...
[03:00]  * FelixTheCat must go. Bye!
[03:00] <ubunubi> __yy_: you're more likely to mess something up fixing it another way. just reboot unless your computer controls your breathing machine or something
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: It's good to not broke what's working
[03:00] <matthew__> __yy_: its better to leave root disabled, so its harder to brute force
[03:00] <__yy_> Lunks: because I wanted to change it
[03:00] <__yy_> matthew__: yes, but then I have problems like this
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: well, guess it doesn't work. :P
[03:01] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, Trackballs, but getting them used to them is the problem.
[03:01] <bsusa> hello
[03:01] <__yy_> Lunks: evidentally
[03:01] <genewitch> what is the gecko package for wine called? wine tries to download and install it, but it isn't working :-)
[03:01] <svenstaro> ubunubi, i think i just owned myself doing the conversion from mb to mib :)
[03:01] <matthew__> __yy_: you don't mess with the sudoers file, you "need" to use visudo, it does some sanity checks and makes sure that sudo will take the sudoers fi;e
[03:01] <ubunubi> svenstaro: 1024*MB=MiB
[03:01] <Lunks> __yy_: I often try to break things myself too, but looks like you learn what you could from your experience: /etc/sudoers should remain 440 so it doesn't break
[03:02] <bsusa> hello does anyone know how to change custom resolutions when running a game from the terminal?
[03:02] <Lunks> bsusa: look for xrandr
[03:02] <Lunks> !xrandr
[03:02] <svenstaro> ubunubi, isnt 1024*MB=GB ?
[03:02] <Lunks> Hmm I believe it works for resolutions, too. :)
[03:02] <ubunubi> svenstaro: GB would be MB/1024..and GiB would be MiB/1024
[03:03] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[03:04] <__yy_> Lunks: indeed, what I am saying is that this is a horrible way for something to break
[03:04] <Lunks> __yy_: really awkward, yes
[03:04] <svenstaro> ubunubi, i cant believe it, i actually managed to resize the partition and not kill it using fdsik and ntfsresize
[03:04] <Lunks> __yy_: but you have to realise you changed it for no reason. :P
[03:04] <ubunubi> svenstaro: grats
[03:04] <__yy_> matthew__: evidentially *I* mess with the sudoers file, and think this is a terrible little corner that you can easily mash yourself into
[03:04] <svenstaro> ubunubi, and my raid is fully functioning.. now for installing ubuntu and creating linux partitions
[03:04] <__yy_> Lunks: I changed it to add sudo permissions to a user, I have never heard of visudo until just now
[03:05] <bsusa> thats for dual screens though
[03:05] <matthew__> __yy_: I admit to avoiding using visudo too, its annoying to get it to use a graphical editor instead of vim, but its a real risk to run
[03:06] <Lunks> __yy_: I believe I could edit /etc/sudoers using nano
[03:06] <opus_two> I have kubuntu 8.04.. I was able to see NTFS drives in computer but now permisson denied and cant mount them
[03:06] <__yy_> matthew__: I'm really not following you here... I'm using vim for editing, but the problem is the permissions
[03:06] <tech0007> !ntfs | opus_two
[03:06] <__yy_> Lunks: only if you want to cause yourself pain with such a backwards editor
[03:06] <MrLinux> Hello
[03:07] <cgibin> evening..
[03:07] <Lunks> __yy_: It's simpler than vim for me. :)
[03:07] <cgibin> my system is 32 bit amd i only see the 64
[03:07] <MrLinux> I have a question, If I install Desktop can I remove it and have only server edition ?
[03:07] <cgibin> oh god
[03:07] <__yy_> Lunks: yes, the instructions at the bottom are handy if you don't know what your're dong
[03:08] <Lunks> __yy_: I don't know how to use vim until now and it's been 1 hear or so using Linux, so I guess you can live with it. :D
[03:08] <mjburling> I keep trying to make from the /lib/modules/2.x.x.x/build directory and it keeps giving me the error that it cannot cd to said directory.
[03:08] <Lunks> !patiente | cgibin
[03:08] <Lunks> !patient | cgibin
[03:08] <Lunks> lol
[03:09] <Lunks> !wait | cgibin
[03:09] <Lunks> Hey, what am I looking for? =P
[03:09] <Lunks> !factoids
[03:09] <FloodBot1> Lunks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <__yy_> Lunks: try switching back and forth between vim and emacs several times a day and then you will truly know how confusing editors can be
[03:09] <tech0007> lol
[03:09] <dsmith_> !snack
[03:10] <mjburling> Any ideas as to why make reports the error that it cannot cd to the build directory?
[03:10] <BCM43> !bot abouse
[03:10] <BCM43> !bot abuse
[03:10] <cgibin> !ubottu
[03:10] <dsmith_> BCM43: nice nick, finally got broadcom drivers working in 8.04
[03:10] <matthew__> !botsnack
[03:10] <cgibin> !ubottu abuse
[03:10] <genewitch> Wine crashes gracefully when it tries to install gecko from within wine, any place where i can download the package and install manually?
[03:11] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[03:11] <cgibin> need to find out were is the 32bit ubuntu download for amd
[03:11] <matthew__> cgibin: you use normal 32bit ubuntu
[03:12] <Uplink> my firefox is not playing video :(
[03:12] <genewitch> video or flash, uplink?
[03:12] <cgibin> well this work for 32bit system ubuntu-7.10-server-amd64.iso
[03:12] <Uplink> genewitch, video :(
[03:12] <genewitch> cgibin: uh, that's 64bit
[03:12] <genewitch> and server. and an old version
[03:12] <spoon_man> uh, cgibin, try the website
[03:12] <cgibin> why do i need to install a desktop .. i m trying to install a server not a desktop
[03:13] <Lunks> !patience | cgibin
[03:13] <Lunks> This is what I was looking for. :D
[03:13] <tech0007> cgibin http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[03:13] <matthew__> cgibin: just download the plain server file from the website
[03:13] <BCM43> dsmith_: thanks, this nick is so i know when people mention it in the channel
[03:13] <Uplink> my firefox is not playing video :(
[03:13] <cgibin> matthew__, do you understand about bit
[03:14] <cgibin> damm thing is not design for 64
[03:14] <spoon_man> lol wut
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: get the 32bit one then
[03:14] <cgibin> on 64 you can install 32
[03:14] <bsusa> Culd someone please tell what could be the problem if i change resolutions while in the game the game just freezes? Is their any way of chageing the resolution or am i stuck with 640x480?
[03:14] <cgibin> are you that clueless
[03:14] <mjburling> my finger nails hurt
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: I know that
[03:14] <cgibin> do you understand i m posting
[03:14] <spoon_man> no
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: do you want 32 bit or 64 bit?
[03:15] <cgibin> let me install debian i give up on this ubuntu, jucking the kernel from debian system and making fun of debian, thats just not right
[03:15] <matthew__> cgibin: if you want 32, just get the plain server version from the site
[03:15] <spoon_man> k
[03:15] <bsusa> spoonOman: was that a no to my question?
[03:15] <spoon_man> !res | bsusa
[03:17] <themime> are there any known issues with madwifi drivers and ubuntu?  i can't figure out how to get wifi0 and ath0 to show up in iwconfig. it says once the drivers are loaded it should just appear, but it doesn't.  i know it _can_ work because i used backtrack 3 live cd and it uses the madwifi drivers and it works perfectly. any ideas?
[03:17] <bsusa> spoonOman: its in the game not the desktop resolution. When i change it in the game it tries to change but freezes.
[03:18] <bsusa> spoonOman: the game runs fine on 640x480 but its a low reso
[03:18] <spoon_man> ah
[03:19] <spoon_man> bsusa, what game is it, and are you using wine?
[03:19] <bsusa> Its Conan: The Dark Axe, not the new one
[03:19] <bsusa> im using cedega
[03:20] <F4HT4W> where can i get glib?
[03:20] <bsusa> in wine it doesnt work, only loads half was then stops
[03:20] <matthew__> !tomboy
[03:20] <tech0007> F4HT4W: try 'apt-search cache glib'
[03:20] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes?
[03:20] <F4HT4W> thank you
[03:21] <F4HT4W> apt-search didnt work
[03:21] <mjburling> apt-cache search
[03:21] <tech0007> F4HT4W: my bad apt-cache search glib
[03:21] <F4HT4W> ok cool that worked thank you
[03:22] <Flux-D> Can anyone give me the result for uname -r, on desktop and server version of Ubuntu Hardy?
[03:22] <tech0007> Flux-D: im on desktop -> 2.6.24-19-generic
[03:23] <Flux-D> ty
[03:23] <Flux-D> ty tech0007
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bsusa cedgea and wine both have channels for support
[03:23] <bsusa> oh
[03:23] <prologic> heya all. I have built a simple web server based on BaseHTTPServer using Pyhtnon-2.5: I have a problem with the machine I'm running it on. On my Macbook Air (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6Ghz 2G RAM) I get ~900 reqs/s. On an Ubuntu 8.04 machine (Python 2.5) AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Quad Code, 4G RAM, I get ~190 req/s. What's going on with my Ubuntu servers and why the performance drag ?
[03:23] <F4HT4W> ok here is my problem.  trying to compile xchat 2.8.6 and the error message is configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[03:24] <bog> is there a way to now if a .exe is going to work with wine on Linux?
[03:24] <Flux-D> F4HT4W, http://vivapinkfloyd.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-compile-and-install-xchat-286-on.html
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[03:24] <Flux-D> F4HT4W, I used that and it worked fine
[03:24] <tech0007> F4HT4W: you need build-essential and devs (ie libglib2.0-dev) i think
[03:24] <bog> thanks!
[03:26] <F4HT4W> thank you Flux-D and tech0007
[03:26] <F4HT4W> i will try those
[03:26] <bsusa> Jack_Sparrow: I cannot enter the #wine channel it says invites only. How can i get in?
[03:26] <bog> the problem is that is not a Microsoft app.. is a app done for windows, a personal app, so .... the only way to know is testing it?
[03:27] <Leefmc> Question: Are there any hurdles if i want to install 100% Ubuntu on my Mac Pro?
[03:27] <tech0007> bsusa: try #winehq
[03:27] <leonedu> hello,everyone.
[03:27] <J_E_K> sup
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bsusa that has never been an issue.. were you in there in the past
[03:27] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> helo people!
[03:28] <Flux-D> sup
[03:28] <bog> #winehq???
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tech0007 yea.. /join #winehq
[03:28] <bog> cool
[03:28] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> leonedu, r u alone?
[03:28] <leonedu> Yeah.
[03:28] <bsusa> Jack_Sparrow: no never
[03:29] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> me 2
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:29] <leonedu> In fact, I don't know how to use this IRC thing yet.
[03:29] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> honestly, me 2. i'm new in ubuntu
[03:30] <leonedu> Nice to talk to you here.
[03:30] <tech0007> !welcome | leonedu
[03:30] <tech0007> !welcome | f0xy_p1r4t3s
[03:30] <DIL> not a social contact site though
[03:30] <leonedu> Nice to you all.
[03:31] <mjburling> Anyone have any ideas as to why make keeps returning that it cannot cd to the build directory?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux-D FYI Xchat 2.8.6 is on getdeb packaged for hardy..
[03:31] <Leechzilla> how do I check if my X server is running (xvfb)?
[03:32] <Flux-D> Jack_Sparrow, I know I just wanted to compile my own version
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mjburling a poorly written script for something other than ubuntu or possibly redhat?
[03:32] <mjburling> Hmm.
[03:32] <RAdams> anyone here running a dell latitude, any model? doing a test with alps trackpad and powernowd... the more models it can be tested against, the better the patch to powernowd can be.
[03:32] <mjburling> Possibly.
[03:32] <FlyingWV> Hello, I have a question regarding permissions, if anyone could help
[03:33] <RAdams> !ask | FlyingWV
[03:33] <Storrgie> roar.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> redbox I have it on a coupe of Dels c610's and 640's
[03:33] <mjburling> Jack_Sparrow: It's definitely written for ubuntu, as far as its quality I cannot speak to that.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> RAdams sorry typo..
[03:33] <mjburling> But it's been used by many other people with success.
[03:34] <FlyingWV> Ah, sorry, question is this... I'm on a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04, just installed irssi my IRC client of choice, but it's denying my permission to save the configuration file in my /home folder
[03:34] <RAdams> Jack_Sparrow: not sure if the problem covers those models, you would know better: ever lose trackpad sync and had it start jumping, fail to follow, or block input altogether, especially while under low loads?
[03:35] <soundcyst> is there an app like HandBrake for ubuntu? i want to set up a home media station, but it seems to make more sense financially to get a new ubuntu machine from dell than a used apple G4
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> RAdams no but you can do a search for laptop testing ubuntu and find alot of info
[03:35] <th0r> soundcyst, and what does handbrake do?
[03:35] <ali_> how do i updtae a prgoram to get the latest version
[03:36] <soundcyst> it's dvd-backup/ripping/encoding software
[03:36] <Mesiox> hey guys, do u know where i can get some wifi cracking tools? i have madwifi for my atheros ar5007eg wireless adapter.. any clue?
[03:36] <RAdams> Jack_Sparrow: I've got the problem solved, I think. but i've only tested it on this one dell, and I want to see if the fix is universal
[03:36] <bog> thanks , you're great!
[03:36] <th0r> soundcyst, you might look at brasero for burning, acidrip for ripping, and dvd95 for converting from 9gb to 5gb
[03:36] <ali_> whyis amaya so messed up
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mjburling what exactly are you trying to compile and do you have a link
[03:36] <soundcyst> oh geez, i'm retarded. handbrake is open source and linux instructions =P
[03:37] <xenoglossia> Hi!  I'm having trouble formatting a 7.8 GB USB flash drive.  I'm a real novice . . . I think there's some problem with a superblock . . . ?  Anyways, I'm trying to make two partitions, but I can't make the second partition in the second half of the flash drive -- I can make the second partition in the first half of the USB drive, but that way, I can't use the other half of the flash drive.  What am I doing wrong?  :)
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> xenoglossia what are you using to format the flash
[03:37] <xenoglossia> gparted
[03:37] <matthew__> Mesiox: aircrack-ng is in the reps, and coWPAtty can be used for breaking WPA using a dictionary. Remember that you should only use this on people who give you consent to  audit their network
[03:37] <xenoglossia> and I've been trying fdisk, too
[03:38] <svenstaro> ubunubi, hopefully i did these bits of math right, sector to cylinder to megabyte to mebibyte conversion, that is :P i usually get bad math grades
[03:38] <leonedu> I think I've found a bug in pidgin. Sometimes, once I enter full of characters in the inputbox, it just crashes down. Does anyone have any ideas about this?
[03:38] <xenoglossia> sorry -- that was weird
[03:38] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you can generally double check your results with online unit calculators
[03:38] <tech0007> xenoglossia: partition the flash using either gparted or fdisk, then format it using mkfs
[03:38] <Mesiox> matthew__: of coarse, but how do i get it?
[03:38] <svenstaro> ubunubi, yeah im using qalculate
[03:39] <matthew__> Mesiox: aircrack-ng or coWPAtty ?
[03:39] <xenoglossia> tech0007: I've been trying that, but every time I format it, Ubuntu can't mount the second partition
[03:39] <Mesiox> aircrack-ng?
[03:39] <Mesiox> matthew__ can it crack any network?
[03:39] <matthew__> Mesiox: not all, but many
[03:39] <Mesiox> matthew__: ahh i c
[03:40] <tech0007> xenoglossia: what filesystem did u put into the flash, and what is the error when uformat
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !piracy
[03:40] <svenstaro> ubunubi, installing ubuntu like this is a major pain though :(
[03:40] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you were past the most major hurdle..just keep your fingers crossed
[03:40] <matthew__> Jack_Sparrow: aircrack-ng is a security auditing tool, not illegal
[03:41] <matthew__> Mesiox: If you are using it to break the law I can't help you
[03:41] <svenstaro> ubunubi, the guide tells me to install ubuntu manually just like i would install gentoo, should i follow that or should i go ahead and try to install the normal way? my paritions are all in place
[03:41] <Leechzilla> When I start an X server with Xvfb, I get this error - _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[03:41] <StevenX> how can i export a list of installed packages through the terminal
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> matthew__ I do understand and we need to be very careful about how much we support it.  SOmeone involved in legal acitvities is unlikely to need basic help in how to use or set it up
[03:42] <FAHTAW> will this matter?    Warning: The GTK (GUI) frontend will not be built.
[03:42] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you can do a regular install..but when it asks about partitions, tell it you want to do it manually...then tell it how you have them setup, so it doesn't do any partition-hanky-panky for you..then the rest of the install should be okay
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[03:42] <ilowe> StevenX: dpkg --list
[03:42] <matthew__> Jack_Sparrow:  Very true Mesiox: I bet aircrack-ng has its own channel, go there
[03:42] <svenstaro> ubunubi, oky, will try, im just worried because the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto suggest a completely different appraoch
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> matthew__ thanks..
[03:43] <StevenX> ilowe, how can i export that onto a file, instead of just seeing it come up in the terminal window
[03:43] <xenoglossia> Specifically, when I try to mount the flash drive (sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc2 /media/ubuntu), I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24885/
[03:43] <ilowe> StevenX: dpkg --list > myfile.txt
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX did you see the link I brought up on clone
[03:44] <StevenX> !clone
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> type                     dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[03:44] <StevenX> thanks.
[03:44] <RAdams> oh that's a nice tip
[03:44] <tech0007> xenoglossia: did u 'sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc2'
[03:44] <ubunubi> svenstaro: i dont see anything majorly different. it looks like they're issue commands directly to the command line that the ubuntu installer will use -- just to have absolute control over the process -- should be okay if you're careful
[03:44] <matthew__> tomboy notes doesn't seem to be finding my add-in, anyone know what I could be doing wrong?
[03:44] <xenoglossia> tech0007: yes
[03:45] <SchighSchagh> hey guys. anyone know a good soundcard that's well supported in ubuntu?
[03:45] <Storrgie> Could I get some help creating a raid5 array with mdadm?
[03:46] <ilowe> StevenX: depends what you want to use it for YMMV
[03:46] <ubunubi> svenstaro: just make sure NOT to reboot until you've done the manual grub build they suggest
[03:46] <xenoglossia> tech0007: nothing happened
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > SchighSchagh
[03:46] <StevenX> ilowe, I'm moving from ubuntu to kubuntu, and want to make sure that  install all the packages I have on this machine.
[03:46] <StevenX> !clone
[03:46] <tech0007> xenoglossia: paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc'
[03:46] <svenstaro> ubunubi, of course, also ill need to chroot in order to install the dmraid package i reckon
[03:47] <pan03243> noob question how do i mount my windows ntfs drive in console?
[03:47] <ubunubi> pan03243: do you ahve the ntfs-3g package installed?
[03:47] <pan03243> yes
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX Why not just install kubuntu-desktop and set the default where you login
[03:47] <pan03243> im able to mount ntfs
[03:47] <xenoglossia> tech0007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24888/
[03:47] <svenstaro> ubunubi, its installing.. fingers crossed.
[03:47] <pan03243> but wanting to do it through console
[03:48] <ubunubi> pan03243: sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/XXX nls=iso8859-1 0 0
[03:48] <xenoglossia> tech0007: I noticed something else weird -- gparted thinks that sdc1 is ext2 and that sdc1 is 3.05 GB used
[03:48] <ali_> wat r some web development programs for ubuntu?
[03:48] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, it's not working as nice as I thought it would, so I'm gonan try this way.
[03:48] <xenoglossia> tech0007: sdc1 is empty
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX np
[03:49] <xenoglossia> tech0007: gparted shows sdc2 as filesystem "unknown"
[03:49] <tech0007> xenoglossia: try redoing the partition and format using fdisk only
[03:49] <Leechzilla> How do I start an X server with Xvfb?
[03:49] <acp_> i is there a quivalent command like lsusb to see what kind of webcam im using? I have a built-in web com in my laptop Im using a fujitsu U2900 mmodel
[03:50] <xenoglossia> I've tried that -- still can't mount
[03:50] <xenoglossia> Shoot.  I have to go now.  Thanks much!
[03:50] <tech0007> acp_: lsusb shld list ur webcam if its usb
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> acp_ sudo lshw
[03:51] <Leechzilla> !xvfb
[03:53] <EagleScreen> join /python
[03:53] <EagleScreen> i obtain You need to be identified to join that channel
[03:55] <Bernar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:55] <bogeyman> what all packages should i dl if i wanna play music etc and also i keep getting a error on this fresh install of 8.04 trying to mount my NTFS drive
[03:55] <Leefmc> Question: Doesn't ubuntu come with the MP3 codec? A friend of mine is getting an error when trying to play an MP3 about a missing codec.  (Specifically, Totem wants an MP3 Decoder..)
[03:55] <o0onullzo0o> ubuntu has no mp3
[03:55] <tech0007> Leefmc: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <bazhang> bogeyman, install ubuntu-restricted-extras from repos and win32codecs from www.medibuntu.org, also get vlc
[03:56] <tech0007> !ntfs | bogeyman
[03:56] <Leefmc> Question: Does Ubuntu have some type of remote desktop? I need to (across the internet) log into his machine to try and figure out his IPod troubles
[03:56] <o0onullzo0o> I meant ubuntu doesnot have mp3 default
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: Does that contain anything for an IPod?
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: Most of his troubles revolve around his ipod not working right.
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: In Rhythmbox that is
[03:56] <o0onullzo0o> what are you going to do with the ipod
[03:56] <tech0007> Leefmc: that package only enables multimedia playback capability
[03:57] <tech0007> Leefmc: and other stuff as well
[03:57] <Leefmc> o0onullzo0o: He wants to put music on it heh.. Rhythmbox isn't letting him. Though i can't say for sure what the situation is, since i can't see it at the moment
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc it cant come with mp3 out of the box
[03:57] <BRIGHTshadow525> How I get flash player running...?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> hm.  My cintiq (wacom tablet monitor) isn't working properly in ubuntu.  I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765915 but it behaves like this guy describes http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5126970&highlight=cintiq#post5126970
[03:57] <Leefmc> o0onullzo0o: I gave him an MP3 i know works, and he dragged it on to his ipod and it didnt work. Though oddly enough, he can play the music on his ipod through Rhythmbox
[03:58] <tech0007> Leefmc: ipod shld work outofthe box in hardy
[03:58] <Leefmc> tech0007: Yea, "should" heh.
[03:58] <tech0007> lol
[03:58] <BRIGHTshadow525> Someone...?
[03:58] <o0onullzo0o> I have no help sry
[03:58] <tech0007> !ask | BRIGHTshadow525
[03:58] <Leefmc> Question: Does Ubuntu have some type of remote desktop? I need to (across the internet) log into his machine to try and figure out his IPod troubles
[03:58] <bazhang> !flash
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc yes...
[03:59] <Firstmate> o.O, Anyone know a good iso burner?
[03:59] <EagleScreen> BRIGHTshadow525 have u install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:59] <bazhang> BRIGHTshadow525, see above
[03:59] <Firstmate> free perferable.
[03:59] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Term or something please, so i can google :)
[03:59] <bazhang> Firstmate, right click iso burn with cd/dvd creator
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate right click the iso and write to disk
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lee one sec.
[03:59] <tech0007> Leefmc: try remote desktop viewer or termianl server client
[03:59] <Storrgie> anyone familair with MDADM?
[03:59] <Firstmate> lol, maybe I asked wrong
[03:59] <sigma_faktor> tiglionabbit: I don't know for the cintiq, but my intuos 3 work perfectly (it's just wrong that the driver is not more easy to install)
[03:59] <willy> Hello, encountered a problem on my notebook; can't get usb /msg hello?
[03:59] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: And it works over the internet right? (ie, a lan is not required?)
[03:59] <Firstmate> Anyone know a good iso bruning program?
[03:59] <Firstmate> burning*
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc rdesktop  http://www.techmongrel.com/29/remote-desktop-ubuntu-710-from-windows/
[04:00] <bazhang> Firstmate, read our responses
[04:00] <Jab> why does ubuntu 8.04 not recogize a realtek network card?
[04:00] <tech0007> Firstmate: brasero's is good
[04:00] <EagleScreen> Firstmate ImgBurn
[04:00] <o0onullzo0o> isoburn
[04:00] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Actually its ubuntu to ubuntu, is remote desktop still the best option?
[04:00] <tech0007> Jab it does on my PC
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate to create one or burn one, in windows or ubuntu
[04:00] <bazhang> EagleScreen, imgburn? he means ubuntu
[04:00] <Jab> Not on mine.
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I like it
[04:00] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: K i'll look into it, thank you
[04:01] <EagleScreen> bazhang it works very well in wine :D
[04:01] <Firstmate> Jack_Sparrow, from windows, for ubuntu
[04:01] <tech0007> jab  'dmesg | grep RealTek
[04:01] <o0onullzo0o> why use a emulator eaglescreen
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate isorecorder
[04:01] <Jab> The setup had troubles with network setup. The card is not renabled.
[04:01] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: all i need is his IP and pass right? (and hoping he has his ports open, cuz that'll be a pain to explain)
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !burniso
[04:01] <EagleScreen> o0onullzo0o why is made it then?
[04:02] <bazhang> EagleScreen, best to offer native solution first
[04:02] <arooni-mobile> i use unison to sync files between my gutsy desktop and gutsy laptop.  i try to sync with unison, but get the error message "Permission denied (publickey,password)." ... the weird thing is when i run the same command i have in crontab (non root user), unison works perfectly well.  additionally i can ssh in fine (without passwords etc) using ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>; any ideas on how to fix?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc if behind a router you will need port forwarding no matter what you use
[04:02] <goldsniper> hi
[04:02] <goldsniper> hello
[04:02] <Firstmate> So which is better? Imgburn or isorecorder?
[04:02] <Firstmate> >.>
[04:02] <tech0007> !welcome | goldsniper
[04:02] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: He will, i know. I hope he isn't though :)
[04:02] <EagleScreen> bazhang please tell me a native app as good as imgburn