[08:42] <Amaranth> and doesn't even give you accelerated rendering
[08:42] <Amaranth> s|k: ATI is doing basically nothing
[08:43] <Amaranth> s|k: nvidia wants aiglx
[08:43] <s|k> they've said they'd release binary drivers to support it
[08:43] <ubuntu> why do you want to use wine?
[08:43] <csseyah> i want to install the macromedia flash here in linux
[08:43] <s|k> are there screenshots of aiglx?
[08:43] <csseyah> and photoshop as well
[08:43] <Amaranth> s|k: pretty easy to promise stuff for a platform "when it's API/ABI is stable" when you know that's never going to happen
[08:44] <Amaranth> s|k: aiglx does all the things xglx does, just without a seperate xserver
[08:44] <s|k> oh
[08:44] <Amaranth> the eyecandy is all in the compositor (metacity and compiz)
[08:44] <ubuntu> did you try to upgread wine?
[08:45] <csseyah> actually the latest version of wine i installed
[08:45] <csseyah> here
[08:45] <marlun> If I want to start developing applications for gnome in c++ I was told to get gtkmm which is the c++ interface to gtk+, is it in the repositories somewhere? I couldn't find gtkmm.
[08:45] <csseyah> can u suggest me some alternative
[08:46] <ufo> !ati
[08:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:46] <ubuntu> win4lin
[08:46] <Sp4rKy> hii
[08:46] <csseyah> is that easy to used???
[08:46] <ubuntu> but you have to install windows under linux,
[08:46] <Sp4rKy> berrkkkk
[08:46] <ubuntu> prety much
[08:46] <s|k> Amaranth: aiglx demo: http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/aiglx/shot01.ogg :)
[08:46] <csseyah> ic
[08:47] <Amaranth> marlun: libgtkmm-2.4-1c2 and libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[08:47] <csseyah> i need to have a windows platform
[08:47] <Amaranth> s|k: that's metacity
[08:47] <csseyah> in order to install that
[08:47] <marlun> Amaranth, Thanks! Thats all I need? =)
[08:47] <Amaranth> marlun: more or less, yeah
[08:47] <Keyframe> why the hell ajunta makes so many files in a project?  :P
[08:48] <Amaranth> s|k: no
[08:49] <ubuntu> windows runs better inde linux :)
[08:49] <csseyah> hehehehehe
[08:49] <s|k> :(
[08:49] <cyphase> what's the best audio/video player/recorder? :)
[08:49] <cyphase> the recorder doesn't have to record video
[08:50] <s|k> I like rythmbox for audio
[08:50] <Keyframe> oh, I was swearing? :D sorry, english is not my first language.. da**it means something like let it be cursed or something here.. which is not swearing..more of a polite way of saying things don't work
[08:50] <ubuntu> i downloaded win4lin with amule,
[08:50] <cafuego> cyphase: rhythmbox/vlc/audacity
[08:50] <cyphase> uhh
[08:50] <csseyah> ohh know
[08:50] <cyphase> my mistake
[08:50] <cyphase> i meant a device
[08:50] <cyphase> not program :)
[08:50] <csseyah> i don't have crack for it
[08:50] <ubuntu> i have it :)
[08:50] <cafuego> ubuntu: warez have _NO_ place on this channel.
[08:51] <csseyah> do  u have a kind heart to share it to me???
[08:51] <ubuntu> no
[08:51] <csseyah> :p
[08:51] <Amaranth> Please take the copyright infringement talk elsewhere.
[08:51] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:51] <csseyah> ic
[08:51] <ubuntu> i really did not know it was a toucy subject here. sorry again
[08:52] <cafuego> ubuntu; Anyone with half  abrain would know.
[08:52] <defrysk> ubuntu, its not touchy, its illegal
[08:52] <CarinArr> heh
[08:52] <cafuego> Haha! I broke into my neighbour's house and stole his tv!
[08:52] <Amaranth> Some of us write programs for a living. Talks about cracking them isn't fun. :P
[08:54] <ubuntu> thats the whole dam* reason i went to linux so i wouldnt have to steel software, that was a couple years ago
[08:54] <CarinArr> well
[08:54] <Psykus> just because it's on linux doesn't mean it will be free
[08:54] <elkbuntu> how about we cease this subject before people get aggrevated
[08:54] <ubuntu> no but the thing i like are
[08:55] <ubuntu> please
[08:55] <CarinArr> if we want commercial companies to take an interest in linux and release high end applications for it we'll probably have to accept we'd have to pay for them
[08:55] <robinl1> hey, i wondered how to clear the playlist of Muine player
[08:55] <cafuego> ubuntu: Get a job, buy the software. Works fien for millions of people.
[08:55] <Amaranth> new topic :P
[08:55] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, i tried
[08:55] <HalfbakednTx> Ok here is a desktop screenshot of a newly windows convert LOL    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/halfbakedntx/Screenshot-1.png
[08:55] <ubuntu> i know, you should see how much i do spen on linux each month, lots of mags and books
[08:55] <Francisco> on what program can I make formulas of math."??
[08:55] <HalfbakednTx> basically me LOL
[08:55] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I have a bit more say in the matter. ;)
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, for print?
[08:56] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, yes, but it's annoying more than just you
[08:56] <elkbuntu> at very least they could take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, or for actually evaluating them?
[08:56] <Amaranth> robinl1: I believe you have to select everything in the list and then right click.
[08:56] <Francisco> both...
[08:56] <HalfbakednTx> I could be in here on BitchX or whatever.. but its just funny i am in virtual Windows with a Ubunto host ;-)
[08:56] <Francisco> CarinArr, both.""
[08:56] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I meant because I can kick them, not believe I'm a programmer. :)
[08:56] <CarinArr> francisco, er.. not sure about evaluating them.. latex allows you to print them very nicely tho
[08:56] <CarinArr> :)
[08:57] <Madpilot> robinl1, Playlist -> Clear
[08:57] <Amaranth> err, because
[08:57] <Amaranth> no more typing at 2 am
[08:57] <CarinArr> can't really evaluate most the bloody formulae i'm dealing with;
[08:57] <CarinArr> ;)
[08:57] <slvmchn> anyone recommend a program for recording or streaming video
[08:57] <mebaran151> does anyone know how to use bzr to access an archive over ftp-ssl or at least ftp with password
[08:57] <Amaranth> flumotion?
[08:58] <Amaranth> i don't think bzr speaks ftp
[08:58] <mebaran151> it does
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: yes, sftp works: bzr get sftp://host/path
[08:58] <Francisco> CarinArr, I have used Kite ... but it have some problems with syntaxis..
[08:58] <mebaran151> pitti, not sftp
[08:58] <mebaran151> I don't have sftp access to this machine
[08:58] <mebaran151> I have ftp-ssl
[08:58] <mebaran151> or ftp with login
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: oh, sorry then
[08:58] <CarinArr> francisco, no idea about that, sorry:/
[08:58] <pitti> mebaran151: ftp with password is just evil..., (but ftp-ssl is interesting, true)
[08:59] <mebaran151> I get FAR BETTER transfer rates over ftp-ssl than with sftp
[08:59] <mebaran151> not sure why
[08:59] <mebaran151> but I do :)
[08:59] <mebaran151> like 256 kbps vs. 5 mb/s over my LAN
[08:59] <Medlem> Hello! :)
[08:59] <mebaran151> not sure why ftp is so slow....
[09:00] <Medlem> I'm just trying out all programs in the gnome desktop in ubuntu :=)
[09:00] <ubuntu> hope you like it
[09:00] <Medlem> I think i will :]
[09:00] <Medlem> Just now i love it
[09:00] <Medlem> Not as messy as other dist i have tried.
[09:01] <Medlem> "Oh no, do you find all my devices on my computer without me doing anything, im so mad" ^
[09:01] <Medlem> Gotta find a guide so i can test all different kind of fun stuff :D
[09:02] <pussfeller> slvmchn: yer probably wanting to use mplayer to record streams
[09:02] <ubuntu> try the faq at ubuntus site
[09:02] <ubuntu> its loaded
[09:02] <ubuntu> with info
[09:02] <pussfeller> slvmchn: i know it works with stranscoding asfs and such to wavs for audio files, i dont know how well it works for vid but it does, somehow
[09:02] <Medlem> I will try that one. My gold is to get a environment where i can run both kde-desktop, xfce and gnome. :)
[09:03] <elkbuntu> Medlem, you can do that with ubuntu easily
[09:03] <tag> How would I go about getting a list of packages that aren't dependencies to other packages?
[09:03] <mebaran151> do you guys prefer bzr or mecurial
[09:03] <tag> I want to examine all the "ends" of my dependency chains, and remove any extra crap I don't want
[09:03] <mebaran151> and how easy would it be to change between the two
[09:03] <mebaran151> ?
[09:03] <Amaranth> tag: debfoster and/or deborphan
[09:03] <cafuego> svn
[09:04] <elkbuntu> Medlem, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <Amaranth> mebaran151: canonical sponsors bzr development so some of us might be biased ;)
[09:04] <Medlem> elkbuntu: I think so. I just havnt looked in the FAQs yet. Everything has been pressing a button or so. Not like gentoo where you have to spend a week reading about different flags.  Oh so i can just choose which session when i log in?
[09:04] <yuri_> hi, could someone tell me how to write launcher scripts? for example, I have a program called "cksfv". it checks. .sfv files. the command to check is "cksfv -f file.sfv" what do i put in the "open with" command line so that when i open it it runs the terminal with that command?
[09:05] <elkbuntu> Medlem, i just told you how
[09:05] <elkbuntu> and yes, you just choose the session
[09:05] <ubuntu> afk
[09:06] <Medlem> elkbuntu: I know. :) But i heard from a friend that it will replace existing environment. But i can always try :]
[09:06] <Medlem> Oh
[09:06] <Medlem> Ni
[09:06] <Medlem> Nice
[09:06] <Medlem> Thanks very much for help!
[09:06] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:06] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:06] <mebaran151> Amaranth, so far bzr has been easy to use on a personal little program I'm writing
[09:06] <mebaran151> but it's inability to do ftp with login
[09:06] <mebaran151> is just annoying
[09:07] <mebaran151> to specify -p or something
[09:07] <mebaran151> I should think the python stdlib can open ftp-ssl like the ruby library does
[09:07] <Amaranth> bzr is powerful yet easy-to-use, that's my favorite part :)
[09:07] <mebaran151> and put works otu the same way
[09:07] <mebaran151> I'd think that ftp access would be stdlibrary work
[09:08] <HalfbakednTx> Well Ubuntu taking the free distro by storm.. Fedora peeps freaking out. Calling the next FC distro Fedoruntu... Oh an following that will be Novell Susuntu....
[09:08] <mebaran151> is the python lib so under powered?
[09:10] <Amaranth> mebaran151: i dunno, i've never tried
[09:10] <mebaran151> Amaranth, if python makes it so hard....
[09:10] <Amaranth> mebaran151: ftp-ssl is a bit exotic though
[09:10] <yuri_> can someone help me out? I want to create a launcher script in the format "cksfv -f file.sfv" where "file.sfv" is the file I am launching
[09:10] <mebaran151> ftp-ssl is
[09:10] <mebaran151> but amazingly
[09:10] <mebaran151> ruby took a very smart move
[09:10] <FoamY_LappY> how do i get my battry icon back on my lappy? i removed it by accedent and now i can't get it back where it was
[09:11] <mebaran151> you can Kernel.opne("Qualified path anem") and it will IO open the resource for reading and writing
[09:11] <elkbuntu> FoamY_LappY, right click on the panel, select 'add to panel'
[09:11] <mebaran151> right way to open IO I think
[09:11] <mebaran151> it's amazing so many people use python.....
[09:11] <Steil> With epiphany, what news feed reader is required to use the news feed subscription plugin?
[09:11] <elkbuntu> FoamY_LappY, and it's the first under the system and hardware group
[09:12] <mebaran151> bzr is awesome though, so much better than arch....
[09:12] <mebaran151> somethings caused me pain....
[09:12] <FoamY_LappY> ok thank you
[09:15] <nickrud> Steil: try liferea, I think that one works
[09:16] <Steil> Okay, thanks :)
[09:16] <Medlem> I think kde will kill my laptop :=)
[09:16] <elkbuntu> Medlem, laptop's specs?
[09:17] <Medlem> elkbuntu: 900mhz p3 192 ram, and real old harddrive. It is just the install part that is gonna kill it because the harddrive is so slow, managed to run kde on this laptop before without any problems :)
[09:18] <elkbuntu> Medlem, it shouldnt hurt it too bad
[09:18] <Medlem> elkbuntu, Haha, we can always hope that.  :P
[09:19] <Medlem> is it still legal*
[09:20] <elkbuntu> yes, it's not illegally gotten stuff, it's just stuff that's not directly supported by ubuntu for whatever reason
[09:21] <Medlem> elkbuntu, Ok, like i supposed then. Well, you are a great source of information :]
[09:22] <nickrud> Medlem: the stuff in multiverse is legally distributable *somewhere*
[09:23] <Medlem> nickrud, haha, always something. "Somewhere, not here" :P
[09:23] <elkbuntu> Medlem, as for kde, if you have another computer, avoid using the computer while you're installing the kubuntu package, to avoid undue stress on the system
[09:23] <nickrud> Medlem: sadly true for me, maybe less for you
[09:23] <Medlem> elkbuntu|foooood, I have installed it now, this old thing can still multitask, scary enough :D
[09:24] <Medlem> nickrud, Why is it bad for you+
[09:24] <nickrud> Medlem: usa, patent laws
[09:25] <Medlem> nickrud, The world of software patent. Bah. Politicans dont know anything, they will probably patent air or something.
[09:26] <Medlem> nickrud, Isnt that so that you can't use some software if you live there?
[09:26] <Medlem> legally
[09:27] <kditty> ahahaha
[09:27] <kditty> the live cd works, and my wireless works also.... looks like ubuntu install it is
[09:28] <Medlem> kditty, Haha, had the same feeling two days ago.
[09:28] <nickrud> Medlem: install vrms, it tells me I have 12 non-free packages
[09:29] <Medlem> Oh, ok!
[09:29] <Medlem> Breakfast.
[09:30] <kditty> im just a little happy
[09:30] <kditty> this computer is old, and slow with win xp
[09:30] <aroticoz> How do I install deb files ?
[09:30] <kditty> couldnt find a distro that would offer drivers for my video,sound or wireless card
[09:31] <sHaDe> dpkg -i name.deb
[09:31] <kditty> medlem, is the instal pretty easy, and did you set up dual boot or strictly linux?
[09:31] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:34] <chuckyp> can someone just talk back to me.  i.e. chuckyp blah or something i'm testing something.
[09:35] <Madpilot> chuckyp, ?
[09:35] <chuckyp> ty hrmmm.... let me try something
[09:35] <kditty> chuckyp, i'm pregnant
[09:36] <chuckyp> thats cool wow this is goofy
[09:36] <kditty> chuckyp, it's yours
[09:36] <StudyUrNme> ooh, marriage
[09:36] <ZAKhan> can i install ubuntu on mac g5?
[09:37] <kditty> i think i seen mac setup files...
[09:37] <kditty> im a newb myself so im not sure
[09:37] <zyth> kditty, G5 = pp64
[09:37] <zyth> afaik
[09:37] <zyth> ppc64..
[09:37] <ZAKhan> so i can it means?
[09:37] <jock09> !restricted
[09:37] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:37] <aroticoz> how can I copy all files form one dir to another from the terminal ?
[09:38] <zyth> ZAKhan, nah looks like it can be put on a imac g5
[09:38] <ZAKhan> is there any distro which will work on mag G5
[09:38] <ZAKhan> mac
[09:38] <jock09> ubuntu will
[09:39] <zyth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130040
[09:39] <kditty> http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks.
[09:39] <zyth> there ya go
[09:39] <kditty> thats what the website says
[09:39] <jock09> yes the powerpc version is for macs
[09:39] <ZAKhan> oh thanks
[09:39] <chuckyp> There we go much better
[09:40] <kditty> whats funny is that i am only on a live cd, first time running ubuntu, and still knew the answer and im a complete newbie
[09:40] <techubus> aroticoz:  while in the directory you want to copy from type cp * /wherever/blah
[09:40] <kditty> ZAKhan you have to read buddy
[09:40] <kditty> google is your best friend :D
[09:40] <fabien> hello
[09:40] <kditty> hi
[09:41] <chuckyp> now someone try it again
[09:41] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:41] <chuckyp> kditty, can you do it again i'm testing this systray notification.
[09:41] <kditty> chuckyp i luh u
[09:41] <fabien> I want to install an ubuntu 5.10 with the netboot method out I can't find the pxe archive for my architecture (AMD64). Can I use the one for i386 ?
[09:42] <chuckyp> kditty, thanx
[09:42] <fabien> s/out/but
[09:42] <kditty> np
[09:42] <kditty> im a dude
[09:42] <kditty> dont go getting any ideas ;D
[09:42] <chuckyp> who be trying to use sed
[09:42] <chuckyp> nm
[09:43] <chuckyp> oh yeah how do I add an applet by the clock?
[09:43] <ewood> Can't be many girls out there messing around with Ubuntu.. can there?
[09:43] <kditty> well there are a few
[09:43] <jock09> ubuntuforums has a womens section
[09:43] <ewood> Hm
[09:43] <kditty> messing with more advanced stuff than windows
[09:44] <jock09> lol
[09:44] <chuckyp> lolerz
[09:44] <kditty> what do you think inspired me to get with the program?!
[09:44] <ewood> Yeah, TTBs are a rarity for me
[09:44] <kditty> my little sister succesfully installed linux
[09:44] <ewood> Heh
[09:44] <kditty> shes like 16
[09:44] <pussfeller> har
[09:44] <FoamY_LappY> whats the latest version of firefox?
[09:44] <kditty> here i am, ive never used linux until about a month ago
[09:44] <FoamY_LappY> !mozilla
[09:44] <ubotu> FoamY_LappY: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:44] <jock09> 1.501
[09:45] <ewood> I use Epiphany. I like how it adds bookmarks
[09:45] <FoamY_LappY> oh ok i thought it was like 1.7 or something lol
[09:45] <pussfeller> theres instructions on the wiki for how to upgrade
[09:45] <aroticoz> remanimg in terminal ? command?
[09:45] <aroticoz> *renaming
[09:45] <pussfeller> aroticoz: mv filename new_filename
[09:45] <aroticoz> thanks
[09:45] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add an app by the clock?
[09:46] <kditty> when im running the live cd, where do the files download to?
[09:46] <kditty> like when im online
[09:46] <jock09> foamy, mozilla and firefox are 2 different browsers
[09:46] <jock09> mozilla is the original mozilla.org browser suite
[09:46] <ripax> helllooooo
[09:46] <fabien> bye
[09:46] <ripax> wazzzup
[09:47] <chuckyp> yeah so i'm trying to put the logout applet tot he right of the clock any ideas?
[09:47] <ewood> Yeah.. Stop that!
[09:47] <kditty> lol
[09:48] <ewood> Yours have volume control up there?
[09:48] <ripax> aileen
[09:48] <ripax> hello
[09:48] <kditty> are there skins for ubuntu that you can instal?
[09:48] <Madpilot> kditty, lots
[09:48] <ewood> There are gnome themes..
[09:48] <Madpilot> !themes
[09:48] <ewood> So yeah
[09:48] <Madpilot> !tell kditty about themes
[09:49] <ewood> Even has a nice Arts manager app to help you download new ones.
[09:49] <kditty> hah
[09:49] <kditty> thats funny
[09:49] <kditty> ubotu, how clever
[09:49] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kditty
[09:50] <ripax> hahahhahahaa!!!!!!!!!!
[09:50] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:50] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:50] <crazykiller> hi
[09:50] <ripax> KAKAKAAALKLksswkwk
[09:50] <ripax> hi!!!!!!
[09:51] <kditty> im about to do a full install, i just downloaded 5.10
[09:51] <kditty> im nervous i might mess something up though ;x
[09:51] <crazykiller> I am a new linux user
[09:51] <ewood> An existing system?
[09:52] <kditty> if i have xp already installed, will i need partition magic or bootmagic or anything like that?
[09:52] <kditty> yes ewood, existing system
[09:52] <ripax> hi!!!!!!!!!!
[09:52] <crazykiller> it is a little difficult for beginning!
[09:52] <kditty> im using the live cd right now.
[09:52] <sHaDe> hi ripax
[09:52] <ewood> What kind of space do you have available? My experience is more Mac-centric - don't know if you could resize a Windows partition to make room..
[09:52] <ripax> y did u say so?
[09:53] <kditty> seems decent, i know the setup for vector linux gave me a few problems
[09:53] <sHaDe> lol
[09:53] <ripax> hi!!!!
[09:53] <ripax> hello ppol
[09:53] <kditty> this computer has 20gigs, its old thats why i plan to instal ubuntu
[09:53] <crazykiller> anyone that uses Opera for browsing?
[09:53] <techubus> breezy installed flawlessly for me alongside my win2k install and set up dual booting in grub with no issues
[09:53] <Madpilot> crazykiller, I do
[09:54] <ewood> I say nuke Windoze and go all Ubuntu. Throw caution to the wind.
[09:54] <kditty> what is breezy?
[09:54] <crazykiller> i have a problem
[09:54] <techubus> breezy = ubuntu 5.10
[09:54] <ripax> hws lyf going on
[09:54] <kditty> well i use alot of apps that i need windows for
[09:54] <ewood> Well techubus, how did you find free space for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <techubus> hehe.  well I have 3 harddrives soo..
[09:54] <kditty> i only have around 4-5GB free on my system
[09:54] <ewood> I dunno kditty, unless you're talking games, there's a ton of good stuff out there..
[09:55] <Madpilot> ripax, this isn't a chat room, it's a support channel
[09:55] <Madpilot> crazykiller, unless you have more details than "I have a problem" you probably won't get any solutions to it :P
[09:55] <kditty> would 4GB be enough room to install?
[09:55] <kditty> install and run properly
[09:55] <ewood> Definitely a stretch.
[09:55] <kditty> i could free some up
[09:55] <ripax> hahhahahha
[09:55] <kditty> i just dont know where it all goes with xp...
[09:56] <crazykiller> i know, do u want to ask u here?
[09:56] <ewood> Best off just grabbing a second hard drive if at all possible.
[09:56] <Madpilot> kditty, 4Gb is tight - 5 might be doable, more is better. Ubuntu needs about 1.8 just for the basic install
[09:56] <kditty> well i hardly have ANYTHING on my computer, i deleted all of my media
[09:56] <ripax> ubuntu has low connection compare to windows xp
[09:56] <kditty> but somehow i have 16GB used space
[09:56] <ewood> I think my external HD deleted a bunch of my media for me..
[09:57] <ewood> Last I tried turning it on, it would only beep at me
[09:57] <techubus> it is possible to go into xp and resize the partition after you upgrade it from simple to dynamic
[09:57] <kditty> i would use an external, but i cant afford one at the moment and i dont want to hook something else up to this computer
[09:57] <ripax> i cant survive if I will continue using this kind of operating system
[09:57] <kditty> its coming straight out of the archives, this computer was purchased in 2001
[09:58] <Madpilot> crazykiller, if you've got an Opera on Ubuntu question, just ask it here...
[09:58] <ewood> kditty, your computer have internal space for a second hard drive? It'd make installing Ubuntu a lot more feasible.
[09:58] <kditty> 800mhz intel celron, 20gbhd, 256ram
[09:59] <kditty> thats all i got, no extra space either
[09:59] <ewood> Meh, buy a 10 gig HD or something.
[09:59] <techubus> so the windows partition is basically full right?  no room to shrink it?
[09:59] <ewood> Unless you find a bigger one really cheap
[09:59] <ripax><EMAIL_ADDRESS>is not so common
[09:59] <kditty> ive got another computer with vector linux installed on it, i was thinking of pluging it in and installing a network card and connecting the two
[10:00] <ewood> That other computer mean much to you in one piece?
[10:00] <kditty> lol no
[10:00] <crazykiller> i downloaded the opera.deb file, and i install it by typing "sudo dpkg -i opera.deb"
[10:00] <kditty> a foot stool
[10:00] <ewood> Yank that vector Linux HD out of it and put it into your XP box.
[10:00] <kditty> i use it to keep my feet propped up sometimes
[10:00] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add an applet by the click "to the right" of the notification area?  There is no vacant space to click.
[10:00] <chuckyp> :(
[10:00] <ewood> There ya go - a spare hard drive just waiting to become your new Ubuntu drive.
[10:00] <Madpilot> crazykiller, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:00] <kditty> ewood, there isnt room for it in this case
[10:01] <crazykiller> ok
[10:01] <crazykiller> thanx
[10:01] <ewood> Ah, ok. That's something I was wondering about before.
[10:01] <Madpilot> chuckyp, add the applet somewhere else, then try moving it into it's final position
[10:01] <techubus> room?  just duct tape it to the inside of the chassi :p
[10:01] <EBAR> lol
[10:01] <ewood> Does your footrest have the space >:) Feel like a big project?
[10:01] <kditty> but say i put an ethernet card in this computer, and ran it to the card on the otherone...
[10:02] <ripax> not so...
[10:02] <kditty> could i just network?
[10:02] <techubus> you mean directly with a crossover cable or to a hub?
[10:02] <chuckyp> Madpilot, no I figure out the problem the clock and notificaiton area where locked so you couldn't move an applet into that area.
[10:02] <ewood> Network how? Boot from the other computer over the network on the Celeron?
[10:03] <kditty> vector doesnt even work on the computer im on right now, the monitor just flashes and gives me snow when it loads
[10:03] <ewood> Never heard of vector before tonight.
[10:03] <kditty> i mean use a cat5 cable and run it directly from one pc to the other
[10:03] <ewood> Got to be a cross-over cable for that - hopefully you know about that.
[10:03] <kditty> well your standard cable you use for a cable modem, i think its cat5 am i wrong?
[10:04] <ewood> Hm, maybe not then
[10:04] <kditty> ehh i wont even mess with it then
[10:04] <kditty> lol
[10:04] <techubus> yes cat5.  but it has to have special wiring, crossover
[10:04] <ewood> Got to have a couple of pins reversed at one end for doing crossover
[10:04] <kditty> too much for me right now
[10:04] <ewood> Yep, especially if you can't make your own CAT-5 cables
[10:04] <kditty> id rather just buy the new HD and keep my footstool compaq
[10:04] <ewood> Or go buy a crossover
[10:05] <ewood> If that one hard drive of yours wasn't so small, it'd be easier too
[10:05] <kditty> is there a tool on the livecd that i could run to see my partitions and free space?
[10:05] <kditty> on my harddrive
[10:05] <ewood> At least replace it with about 120 gigs and then make it a dual-boot, eh?
[10:06] <Tamon> Hi guyz
[10:06] <ewood> Hi Tamon
[10:06] <kditty> well ive decided that im not upgrading this computer at all, its just too old and outdated
[10:06] <kditty> too small to add anything
[10:06] <Tamon> i'm new to ubuntu and linux and i need help!
[10:07] <EBAR> 800mhz? Not that old.
[10:07] <thessem> Just upgrade everything, on a single day
[10:07] <kditty> around late 2000 early 2001 i baught it
[10:07] <EBAR> kditty: you could always try Damn Small Linux (DSL)
[10:07] <ewood> Maybe just plan on buying or building a replacement for your Celeron and putting Ubuntu onto the Celeron afterwards?
[10:07] <kditty> well the thing is that ubuntu is the only distro ive found to work with my video card
[10:08] <Ash-Fox__> 800mhz, I don't mean to be funny, but unless you're playing games or doing 3d rendering and such... Why would you need more?
[10:08] <Tamon> how to browse my hdd when i'm using a live cd?
[10:08] <ewood> Say, did you try Fedora Core 4?
[10:08] <EBAR> I agree with Ash-Fox. I've got more on less.
[10:09] <Ash-Fox__> I can say though, you should at least have 256MB ram (preferibly 512MB)
[10:09] <thessem> I remember those old Pentium adds, stating that you needed over 1ghz to surf the net properly
[10:09] <kditty> i have two more computers
[10:09] <thessem> how does that work?
[10:09] <[129-CarNagE] > Tamon: You have to mount your existing hard drives using "moung", see "man mount" for details...
[10:09] <ewood> I have a stack of old Macs..
[10:09] <kditty> one isnt very important, one is new
[10:09] <thefish> kditty: try running "df -h" from a console
[10:09] <ewood> But each one should at least boot up and have some use
[10:09] <Tamon> moung??
[10:09] <kditty> well when i watch movies on windows, it goes out of sync trying to process
[10:10] <jock09> !restricted
[10:10] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:10] <ewood> Xine has been doing that to me on my Linux system.  Xine just doesn't work quite right on it for some reason.
[10:12] <kditty> and when its about to do it you can tell, because the computer will start working and you notice it
[10:12] <Angel_Dex> how do i flush my catche's and stuff?
[10:12] <latis> any1 knows how to get Audify2 PCMCIA support in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <latis> I cant get it to work
[10:12] <thessem> ewood, Ahhkay, I thought we were talking normal i386's here
[10:12] <latis> !pcmcia
[10:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, latis
[10:12] <ewood> Naw, just the underdog
[10:12] <Ash-Fox__> kditty, I'd reccommend you use VLC (videolan.org), anyway.. This a channel for help on Ubuntu Linux
[10:12] <thessem> I can understand mac's not being properly supported
[10:12] <kditty> so far, on unbuntu live cd my computer has only struggled because the cd drive is low, its running better from a cd-rom than windows does from my hard drive
[10:13] <kditty> im on ubuntu linux
[10:13] <latis> !audigy2
[10:13] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, latis
[10:13] <ewood> And my desire for good support led me to the Gentoo site, and I saw they offer PPC installation disc images for different PPC types.
[10:13] <kditty> i dont even know how we got on that topic
[10:13] <ewood> But I didn't have a torrent client installed back then. I do now, but heck, I'm tired to reinstalling my system
[10:13] <Angel_Dex> anyone? i wish to clean junk folders out and clean things like my icon catche
[10:14] <thessem> How would the ppc type differ?
[10:14] <ewood> G3, G4, etc
[10:14] <thessem> Don't they just have a normal "low" standard?
[10:14] <thessem> that they all should be compatible to?
[10:14] <kditty> if the live cd is working fine for me, does that mean that ubuntu supports all my devices? for example my wireless and video cards.
[10:15] <ewood> They have stage1, stage2, stage3 ISO images, and the stage2 and stage3 images were available in -g3 and -g4 and maybe even -g5 versions
[10:15] <DrZombie> Jamus, you in?
[10:15] <thessem> Yes I be
[10:15] <thessem> It's odd that Ubuntu doesn't do that then
[10:16] <ewood> Well yeah. I think Gentoo offers more specialised Linux installations than most. Fedora Core and Ubuntu tend to use just one PPC kernel for all systems though
[10:16] <hal> how do i download files with linux? Sory for such a simple question, i'm new.
[10:16] <thessem> firefox?
[10:16] <thessem> wget?
[10:16] <hal> i know it has to do with repositories
[10:16] <thessem> synaptic?
[10:16] <ewood> I expect the Gentoo G4 Linux would use Altivec quite a bit.
[10:16] <kditty> im going to reboot with the install cd in and check out my options
[10:16] <Madpilot> hal, use Synaptic - System menu -> Admin -> Synaptic
[10:16] <kditty> thanks for the help guys
[10:17] <DrZombie> Wow. Coming into this room using windows was like me walking into a gaybar without aids.
[10:17] <ewood> Lots of luck there kditty
[10:17] <kditty> who was using windows?
[10:17] <ewood> I resent that, DrZombie.  Everyone knows THAT
[10:17] <Tamon> could you guyz tell me how to browse my hdd from a live CD?
[10:17] <ewood> j/k
[10:17] <Keyframe> if I've changed /etc/default/acpi-support, do I need to restart?
[10:17] <ewood> What does Ubuntu offer for browsing the hard drive?
[10:18] <DrZombie> ewood Well, I have never been able to get a whole project done on Windows without it assraping me, so I guess you are right
[10:18] <kditty> is it possible to browse your hard drive from a live cd?
[10:18] <thessem> I don't see why not
[10:18] <kditty> a windows format HD i mean
[10:18] <ewood> Really? I never do projects myself..
[10:18] <thessem> kditty, whats your filesystem?
[10:18] <thessem> fat32 or ntfs?
[10:18] <kditty> fat32 i think
[10:18] <Tamon> mine is fat32
[10:18] <kditty> whatever is standard for windows
[10:18] <Keyframe> you can both, but you need to mount by yourself
[10:19] <ewood> Should be possible..
[10:19] <techubus> ntfs is standard for windows xp
[10:19] <kditty> ok
[10:19] <ewood> Well kditty, Win XP supports both equally
[10:19] <kditty> then thats me
[10:19] <Tamon> could you please how do I mount a hdd?
[10:19] <kditty> the thing is that ive never really been givin the option to choose, i know nothing about it
[10:19] <ewood> ThuG-GirL - hey, a female Linux user. Yay
[10:19] <ewood> hehe
[10:19] <kditty> so i have no clue what i set it up as
[10:20] <velios> plz help how use gnome-btdownload?
[10:20] <thessem> Chances are ThuG-GirL isn't a girl, this being irc and all
[10:20] <ewood> Didn't install Win XP on that system yourself, kditty?
[10:20] <kditty> no girls on the internet, right?
[10:20] <thessem> exactly
[10:20] <kditty> yea i did install it
[10:20] <kditty> about 3 years ago, maybe 4
[10:21] <Keyframe> if I've changed /etc/default/acpi-support, do I need to restart?
[10:21] <kditty> i dont remember it asking me fat32 or ntfs, because i didnt start hearing about ntfs until i started researching linux
[10:21] <ewood> Well, when you pick your partition onto which Windows should be installed, it has a list of options not unlike Format using FAT32, Format using NTFS, Convert to NTFS, Leave partition unchanged
[10:22] <thessem> ewood, if kditty doesn't know, it is probably ntfs
[10:22] <thessem> thats the windows default
[10:22] <ewood> Yep..
[10:22] <ompaul> kditty, I have just joined the channel, fair guess XP ntfs win2k ntfs before that vfat
[10:22] <kditty> ok theres the thing, i baught it with win me, and installed xp over that, no partitions involved
[10:22] <DrZombie> There are girls on the internet
[10:22] <DrZombie> they are in jpeg format.
[10:22] <ewood> Ah
[10:22] <thessem> and mpg
[10:22] <ewood> FAT32 then
[10:23] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:23] <ubotu> [offtopic]  Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic.     Who can tell why?
[10:23] <DrZombie> haha, speak of the devil
[10:23] <ewood> Yep, Win ME is one happy OS.....
[10:24] <kditty> worst one ive ever used in my life
[10:24] <chuckyp> Anyone know how to add a system monitor to the desktop like some of the gnome-look people ahve doen?
[10:24] <aroticoz> how can I Search the hdd for a file :|
[10:24] <Tamon> anyone can tell me how do I mount a hdd?
[10:24] <wevex> whats a "built-in" variable?
[10:24] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp right click pannel>add to pannel>system monitor and right click it to config
[10:24] <kemik> !mount
[10:24] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:24] <aroticoz> how can I Search the hdd for a file?
[10:25] <kemik> aroticoz: whereis, locate, find
[10:25] <Fanskapet> aroticoz: locate file
[10:25] <aroticoz> from the terminal ?
[10:25] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, i'm talking about right on the desktop not on the panel.
[10:25] <Fanskapet> yes
[10:25] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp torsmo?
[10:25] <Terminus> chuckyp: you probably want gdesklets.
[10:26] <kditty> !windowsdrives
[10:26] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:26] <Angel_Dex> Terminus Gdesklets are buggy for me how bout you?
[10:26] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: buggy as hell too. i don't use it.
[10:26] <techubus> that is one useful bot
[10:26] <Angel_Dex> Terminus yeah id suggest torsmo then
[10:26] <Ash-Fox__> !pokemon
[10:26] <ubotu> Ash-Fox__: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:26] <ewood> Are gdesklets akin to widgets in Tiger?
[10:26] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: didn't know about torsmo. :)
[10:27] <Angel_Dex> Terminus not as fancy shmansy but atleast its not buggy
[10:27] <Ash-Fox__> ubotu, be happy you don't
[10:27] <ubotu> Ash-Fox__: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:27] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, yeah i'm looking at tormso and conky right now.  Anyone have any experience with them?
[10:27] <Tamon> !live cd
[10:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tamon
[10:27] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp me its not bad I stoped using it tho cuz i ,lost cuz my resources are more then enough to have to worry
[10:28] <kditty> but can you mount and access from ubuntu's live cd?
[10:28] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: hehe. :)
[10:28] <kditty> mount a windows drive i mean
[10:28] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, I know I just want it for the look.
[10:28] <techubus> I would think it would work the same but I've never used a live disc
[10:28] <ewood> I know that Ubuntu is always happy to mount up any Mac partitions it finds, even including my iPod
[10:29] <kditty> ok, im gonna try it
[10:29] <Angel_Dex> Terminus 384Mb of ram and 933mhz pIII and all i really do is surf the web
[10:29] <techubus> speaking of ipods.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to recogonize mine when its connected by firewire.  I haven't tried plugging it in to usb yet.
[10:30] <ewood> Mine is a USB 2 model.
[10:30] <ompaul> aroticoz, all in a terminal, which will find a  command on your path, whereis will locate the binary, source, and manual page files for a command,(s)locate will find files that are known about since the last time the the locate database was created [partial matches]  (sudo updatedb to do it now), and find will find a file on your machine and takes many options, if I know a file should be in some directory / subdirectory of where I am I do this (find
[10:30] <ompaul> ./ -name foo)
[10:30] <ewood> Maybe Ubuntu isn't so good with Firewire just yet
[10:30] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: i wouldn't run gnome on those specs. :)
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp eh id say torsmo it may just be text and simple bars but it does the job
[10:30] <techubus> yeah, especially a firewire port on an audigy card
[10:30] <ewood> Hmm
[10:30] <Angel_Dex> Terminus Runs prefectly fine for me
[10:31] <Angel_Dex> use 200MB at the most
[10:31] <Terminus> Angel_Dex: cool. doesn't seem snappy enough for me though.
[10:31] <ewood> And you can get a little program called gtkpod to control the songs on your iPod
[10:31] <Angel_Dex> Terminus i ran Xpee on 300mhz ANYTHING is snappy now
[10:31] <ewood> hehe @ Xpee
[10:31] <Terminus> LOL!
[10:31] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, Think i'm going with conky still being activly developed
[10:31] <techubus> Ive got AmaroK already.  it looks great can't wait to see how it stacks up to itunes
[10:32] <techubus> just to tired to work it out right now.
[10:32] <chuckyp> and its in the repos
[10:32] <ewood> Xfce4 is a snappy interface
[10:32] <ewood> Though it's also pretty rustic.
[10:32] <ewood> Hmm
[10:32] <ewood> AmaroK - something I could download and compile?
[10:33] <techubus> you can grab it with apt
[10:33] <ewood> Not I..
[10:33] <ewood> Not using Ubuntu at the moment
[10:33] <ewood> But I'll go look for it online
[10:33] <techubus> its kde based if that matters to you.
[10:33] <ewood> That does.
[10:34] <ewood> I made a point of removing KDE from my system
[10:34] <Terminus> chuckyp: haven't tried it, but there's also gkrellm.
[10:34] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp torsmo is in the repos
[10:34] <Razor-X> Hmm... where can you get libtommath from?
[10:34] <kditty> /dev/hda1   *           7        2586    19504768+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[10:34] <techubus> I ran ubuntu just to learn then downloaded the kubuntu stuff and switched
[10:34] <kditty> thats what i got when i ran fdisk
[10:34] <Angel_Dex> chuckyp and you do know that you can install them both? i mean nothing wrong with having more hten one program
[10:35] <chuckyp> Angel_Dex, yeah I know conky was in repos so just did that for now i'll try it out.
[10:35] <techubus> my system is kind of a bastard mix of gnome and kde apps.  hasn't caused me trouble. yet.
[10:36] <ewood> I must say - AmaroK looks very iTunes-ish indeed. Far more so than Rhythmbox
[10:36] <latis> I really need help on getting my audigy2 pcmcia card to work in ubuntu, can any1 help?
[10:37] <Angel_Dex> does gnome have a run comman interface?
[10:37] <techubus> it is.  it automatically builds a library database, burns cds, downloads lyrics, good playlist support, even displays cd art covers
[10:37] <ompaul> kditty, you can mount but you cant write
[10:37] <Ng> Angel_Dex: there used to be one in the menus, but if not you can add a command line panel applet
[10:38] <Angel_Dex> Ng ah so thats the same thing no?
[10:39] <Ng> Angel_Dex: pretty much, it's just there all the time instead of a menu item
[10:39] <Ng> and once dapper is out there's also the deskbar applet, which is very cool and hooks into lots of things
[10:40] <Angel_Dex> Ng shweet
[10:42] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, try Alt+F2
[10:42] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nuthin
[10:43] <Angel_Dex> say how do i configure conky and torsmo?
[10:43] <Madpilot> Angel_Dex, you in Ubuntu w/ Gnome?
[10:43] <Angel_Dex> yesh
[10:43] <dragontamer> bugger, got banned from #wikipedia
[10:43] <Madpilot> alt f2 should bring up Gnome's Run Applications thing, Angel_Dex
[10:44] <hal> after i download something from synaptic, how can i instal it? I think i'm missing part of the puzzle here.
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> i got banned from #knoppix ^-^ Thoi never been there so idk how i coulda gotten banned it sucked when i startedusing knoppixtoo
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nope
[10:44] <Angel_Dex> ><
 where's the off button on that Mike guy  <-- that's all i said lol
[10:44] <techubus> alt f2 opens a run on both gnome and kde
[10:44] <hal> anyone have an answer for my newby question
[10:45] <hal> oic
[10:45] <Madpilot> hal, Synaptic automatically installs stuff when it downloads
[10:45] <dragontamer> i'm such a n00b at IRC lmao
[10:45] <hal> well i've been unsuccesful at finding them then
[10:45] <latis> I really need help on getting my audigy2 pcmcia card to work in ubuntu, can any1 help?
[10:45] <hal> after they're installed
[10:45] <Madpilot> hal, not everything appears in the menus. What're you looking for?
[10:46] <hal> well i installed a couple games
[10:46] <dragontamer> any starter IRC tips?
[10:46] <hal> they're not in the games folder
[10:46] <hal> sory im such a newb
[10:46] <Gomez> #ubuntu-it
[10:46] <Angel_Dex> dragontamer ummm use Xchat?
[10:47] <Madpilot> hal, which ones? Like I said, some stuff doesn't appear in the menus automatically
[10:47] <Angel_Dex> dragontamer Uhhhhh thats about it?
[10:47] <hal> 3d chess was one of them
[10:47] <Madpilot> hal, that doesn't have a menu entry.   As for 'flushing your icon cache', I don't even know what that means. :P
[10:52] <latis> Madpilot, can I burn an ISO through that menu?
[10:52] <latis> since I have the isofile
[10:52] <Angel_Dex> Madpilot nautilus saves icons and stuff from pics when you veiw um Thumbnails? idk what to call um but i wanna empty where it saved um
[10:52] <Fudge> latis: just right click on the iso and select burn to disc.
[10:52] <Madpilot> latis, no, actually.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[11:00] <liable> Madpilot: sweet :)
[11:01] <viviersf> lo selinium , mr head and shoulders
[11:02] <suppaman> hell
[11:02] <suppaman> hello
[11:02] <suppaman> !codecs
[11:02] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:03] <suppaman> ok I've read the repositories info, but I don't know what package I do need...
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell L|nu}{ about exploit
[11:03] <ompaul> Seveas, got them all with the bot
[11:03] <L|nu}{> thx!
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell cratel1  about exploit
[11:03] <Seveas> !tell  slvmchn  about exploit
[11:04] <Seveas> suppaman, w32codecs
[11:04] <L|nu}{> brb
[11:04] <Seveas> !tell FatDarrel  about exploit
[11:04] <ompaul> Seveas, any (easy) way ubugtu could catch the sign off names and then when the user comes back say !exploit?
[11:04] <suppaman> Seveas: thanks
[11:05] <Seveas> ompaul, not an easy way but maybe doable
[11:05] <suppaman> !easysource
[11:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:06] <suppaman> Seveas: the point is easysource has info for Breezy or Hoary, I'm on Dapper..
[11:06] <Angel_Dex> i got my source list from tony
[11:06] <Angel_Dex> then i added on US repos
[11:06] <suppaman> Seveas: but when I asked in #ubuntu+1 I was told to ask here
[11:06] <Seveas> suppaman, grab w32codecs from seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas and install with dpkg -i
[11:07] <suppaman> ok
[11:07] <suppaman> I'll make first another try
[11:10] <chuckyp> suppaman, what do you need?
[11:11] <suppaman> chuckyp: to play avis
[11:11] <chuckyp> suppaman, http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[11:11] <suppaman> I've just followed the last ubotu links, I'm installing by hand
[11:11] <suppaman> yea that one
[11:11] <suppaman> thanks
[11:12] <chuckyp> suppaman, yeah dl the deb and dpkg -i it.
[11:13] <suppaman> one more question: is there a way to have Alt+RightButton resize windows instead of middle button in gnome ?
[11:13] <suppaman> I feel it unconfortable
[11:13] <Eddiet> Anyone know how i can stop apache2 treating url directorys as case sensetive?
[11:14] <chuckyp> Eddiet, I can't think of a way to do it.  Everything is case sensitify
[11:15] <Madpilot> Eddiet, try #apache, maybe - but I agree with chuckyp, I don't think it's possible
[11:15] <Eddiet> k was a long shot anyway
[11:16] <chuckyp> Madpilot, I found it.
[11:16] <Madpilot> chuckyp, found what?
[11:16] <Angel_Dex> anyone here use pclos?
[11:16] <chuckyp> Madpilot, if you load module speling_module
[11:17] <chuckyp> !paste
[11:17] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:17] <Madpilot> chuckyp, in apache, you mean?
[11:17] <chuckyp> Madpilot, yeah in your config. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9897
[11:18] <Angel_Dex> i just installed PClos on another computer and im pretty amazed at it THO i still use ubuntu but im not finding any reasons to stay with ubuntu anyone wish to convince me? XP
[11:18] <Madpilot> chuckyp, interesting
[11:19] <Gomez> #debian-it
[11:20] <suppaman> it's a mess, now it says OpenDivX is not handled..
[11:20] <chuckyp> suppaman, what are you trying to do play a divx movie?
[11:20] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, 17000 packages against 4800? to be honest it is your own call, if you like their community again that is your call
[11:21] <Zero_Day> ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of  all ages, wasup in ubuntu land?
[11:21] <suppaman> chuckyp: yes
[11:21] <ablomen> Zero_Day: well not much realy ;)
[11:22] <Healot> for totem to play divx/xvid - install "gstreamer0.8-xvid" package
[11:22] <Angel_Dex> ompaul Well the thing is i noticed PClos comes jam packed and has like evry extenshon preinstalled but it seems way to windowsish
[11:22] <chuckyp> suppaman, I just realized I can't play opendivx either. I beilieve I can play normal divx though
[11:22] <suppaman> Healot: but I've just installed totem-xine as told in http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[11:23] <Healot> for totem to play divx/xvid - install "gstreamer0.8-xvid" package
[11:23] <Healot> not JUST totem...
[11:23] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, it is your choice, I am not going to debate it with you, and will point out to you that you can debate in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <suppaman> Healot: and other .avis?
[11:24] <Angel_Dex> ompaul alright manythanks THO i think you made a point with the Repos many thanks
[11:24] <Healot> i supposed XVid is compatible with all the OpenAVI format out there
[11:24] <chuckyp> suppaman, yeah if you install the gstreamer plugins you should be good.  If your in dapper you need good bad ugly
[11:25] <_sp> whats the vista backdoor port number ?
[11:25] <vincenz> How close is the new ubuntu to being released?
[11:25] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:25] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:26] <Healot> hoho, that bot answers in uncertainty
[11:28] <Healot> less than 1 month vincenz
[11:28] <vincenz> thx
[11:28] <vincenz> can't wait
[11:28] <ompaul> Healot, not any more :-)
[11:28] <suppaman> Healot: can't find gstreamer0.8-xvid
[11:28] <Hobbsee> Healot: really less than one month?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> wow
[11:29] <Healot> suppaman, it's on the "universe" repos
[11:29] <Healot> !tell suppaman about repos
[11:29] <ompaul> Hobbsee, get off IRC and get coding :-) save the world!
[11:29] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:29] <Hobbsee> maybe i should wait a month?
[11:29] <ompaul> Hobbsee, you like pressure?
[11:29] <narzy> doesn't everyone?
[11:29] <Hobbsee> hehe not particularly
[11:29] <Hobbsee> depends
[11:30] <scanwinder> how do i change the contrast when viewing a pdf file? it seems to be opening it with evince by default and i cant find any options for changing contrast......
[11:34] <aroticoz> can anyone here help me with a problem with Maya 7.0 ?
[11:35] <lpfansether> anyone able to help a newb set up his Ubuntu with his router?
[11:36] <lpfansether> i'm as new as it gets when it comes to ubuntu
[11:36] <sven_> I'm getting a wierd output when i issue the "df command" I have a partition mounted to /home wich only contains 311mb, the partition is 16 GB and with only 311mb filled it states in df that its 80% filled
[11:36] <lpfansether>  /linux
[11:36] <suppaman> ok now Totem say it cannot de-mux the stream
[11:36] <suppaman> I'm off this for now,  bye
[11:37] <lpfansether> I activate the devices and set them up but can never get them to conenct to the router
[11:38] <lpfansether> i'm on a windows computer chatting and the one running ubuntu is a laptop I have with me
[11:38] <sven_> lpfansether: doesnt your router issues an dhcp packet to the pc?
[11:38] <lpfansether> yes but it won't issue one to the laptop
[11:38] <sven_> then maybe its the network card thats not installed?
[11:39] <sven_> what does ifconfig says
[11:39] <lpfansether> i'm completely new to linux and about as dumb as it gets
[11:39] <lpfansether> what is ifconfig
[11:39] <Healot> it's the mother of all networking configuration tools :)
[11:39] <cyphase> woohoo!
[11:40] <sven_> Healot:  ;)
[11:40] <cyphase> i'm almost drooling :P
[11:40] <Healot> really, at least to me...
[11:40] <sven_> isnt that ping
[11:40] <lpfansether> all i've been trying to do is adjust the network settings
[11:41] <lpfansether> it shows a wireless connection an ethernet connection and a modem connection
[11:41] <lpfansether> sorry for my ignorance
[11:41] <sven_> lpfansether: open a console lpfansether
[11:42] <sven_> lpfansether: and type > ifconfig
[11:42] <lpfansether> sorry how do I get to the console?
[11:42] <Healot> buy one... :)
[11:42] <sven_> you go to the place where your playstation is
[11:42] <lpfansether> :-P
[11:42] <Healot> sorry, Applications - > Accessories -> Terminal
[11:43] <lpfansether> ok thanks
[11:43] <lpfansether> yeah I know i'm linux-retarded
[11:43] <sven_> like everyone in the beginning
[11:43] <lpfansether> what am I looking for in ifconfig
[11:43] <sven_> eth0
[11:44] <sven_> check out the inet addr field what does it states
[11:44] <ubuntu> slm
[11:44] <purpleidea> would anyone be able to point me in the right direction? sound from soundcard makes a bit of a crackling noise... brand new laptop, i believe the soundcard is supposed to be supported, works fine in windows (although getting rid of it) and want to know what direction i should take to get my system 110%
[11:45] <aroticoz> can anyone here help me with a problem with Maya 7.0 ?
[11:45] <anakronisme> purpleidea, try playing around with ALSA, ESD etc. in the sound preferences
[11:45] <anakronisme> might work, might not work
[11:45] <lpfansether> inet6 addr: fe80::2d059ff:fe49:3eb2/64 scope:Link
[11:45] <Healot> Maya 7.0, this is actually Ubuntu distro help channel...
[11:45] <Ekumba> need help!!!have burned a dvd with dvd baker.but now can't play the files.it says:No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Snowboard%20Halfpipe%20-%20Torino%202006%20-%20Qualification%20%26%20Finale.avi"Totem konnte burn:///Snowboard Halfpipe - Torino 2006 - Qualification & Finale.avi nicht wiedergeben.
[11:46] <purpleidea> be more specific? which sound preferences?
[11:46] <Healot> is your problem ubuntu related? aroticoz ?
[11:46] <Ekumba> please help
[11:46] <aroticoz> yes
[11:46] <Healot> well... tell exactly your problem, someone might help
[11:46] <dilber> slm
[11:46] <dilber> tukish??
[11:46] <dilber> turkish??
[11:47] <Healot> no turkiye, dilber, english please...
[11:47] <aroticoz> well I ahve installed Maya 7.0 according to the HOWTO on the forums, and when i run it says "The application cannot find it's resourse file. Maya needs it to continue"
[11:47] <dilber> ok
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dilber about tk
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[11:47] <Ekumba> need help!!!have burned a dvd with dvd baker.but now i can't play the files.it says:No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Snowboard%20Halfpipe%20-%20Torino%202006%20-%20Qualification%20%26%20Finale.avi    "Totem konnte burn:///Snowboard Halfpipe - Torino 2006 - Qualification & Finale.avi nicht wiedergeben.
[11:48] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> what application are you trying to play the file in?
[11:48] <Healot> Ekumba, your Totem has no appropriate plugin to play that AVI file...
[11:48] <Ekumba> doesn't matter.totem,vlc.both don't play it
[11:48] <Ekumba> but they play it when it is on the drive
[11:49] <Healot> install the plugins first, "zulaile mabni
[11:49] <Healot> to me
[11:49] <Healot> 	 More options	  11:48 am (6 hours ago)
[11:49] <Healot> >Waalaikumsalam wrt.
[11:49] <Healot> Untuk makluman, penyertaan Programming Quest 2006 kali ini hanya dibuka
[11:49] <Healot> untuk pelajar CS110 & CS230 shj. W/bagaimana pun kita akan menganjurkan
[11:49] <Healot> satu lagi Programming Competition peringkat UiTM pada bulan Ogos 2006
[11:49] <Healot> nanti(tentative) yang mana penyertaan adalah dibuka kepada semua pelajar
[11:49] <Healot> UiTM.
[11:49] <Healot> Terima kasih.
[11:49] <Healot> -Pn Zulaile"
[11:49] <Healot> ahhh sorry about that
[11:49] <lpfansether> also eth1  says inet6 addr: fe80::a0046ff:fe73"lae2/64 Scope:Link
[11:50] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> the burn:// prefix on your file might be the problem. try navigating to the file in nautilus and then opening it from there.
[11:50] <purpleidea> anyone? help with crackling sound? even just send me where to go figure it out myself... not sure what to do!
[11:50] <Ekumba> i tried it from nautilus,but it still doesn't open.vlc doesn't make it
[11:51] <Ekumba> when i copy the files to the drive it play them
[11:51] <sven_> lpfansether: are you sure everything is well connected, and your dhcp is working fine
[11:51] <lpfansether> yeah the DHCP is running the computer i'm on
[11:52] <lpfansether> but the computer I'm on is windows based
[11:52] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> okay, is the file you're trying to play in your home directory?
[11:52] <sven_> your subnet isnt too small or smth
[11:52] <Ekumba> again :No URI handler implemented for "burn:///Burton%202004%20Promo%20Video%20-%20The%20Process%20-%20Snowboard%20(38%20Min).mpg"
[11:52] <lpfansether> theres enough of a range of IP's for it to assign
[11:52] <Ekumba> yes it its
[11:52] <sven_> then it has to be smth with the network card
[11:52] <sven_> there is a hardware test included
[11:52] <Ekumba> do i have to delete them from my home before it plays the dvd with the same files?
[11:53] <lpfansether> hmmm
[11:53] <lpfansether> It's a sony vaio laptop should I try throwing in the sony CD to install drivers?
[11:53] <sven_> application > system tools > hw thing
[11:53] <sven_> no
[11:53] <thegladiator> hi i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:53] <sven_> there wont be any linux drivers included I'm affraid
[11:53] <GnarusLeo> Does anyone know why XMMS gives so scrambled sound when playing mp3s? Should I change plugin or something?
[11:53] <Healot> lpfansether, well, not if you still want to use Windows or ndiswrapper
[11:53] <JustinLynn> Ekumba> okay, then in totem goto the file menu, open, then goto your home directory and open the file from there. Totem is most likely trying to open the file from the cd burner object in the gnome vfs system instead of trying to open the file from your home directory.
[11:53] <lpfansether> didn't think so
[11:54] <sven_> do again that ifconfig command and look for a MAC adress, that way we can verify if he sees the card or not
[11:54] <sven_> but try and execute that hardware finder
[11:54] <ramza3> hello
[11:54] <lpfansether> i'm running ubuntu 5.10 on the gnome interface
[11:54] <AtaTurk> hi i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:54] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, see aroung in preferences , right click in xmms and click on preferences
[11:55] <lpfansether> idk if that makes any difference to you guys
[11:55] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, what do I do there?
[11:55] <sven_> lpfansether: same here
[11:55] <ramza3> Wireless Question: I want to enable my thinkpad laptop for a wireless connection.  First, will most modern wireless cards work?  Like the belkin serious?
[11:55] <sven_> ramza3: running the belkin's works fine under ndiswrap
[11:55] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, what is your output plugin ?
[11:56] <Healot> AtaTurk, :)
[11:56] <J_element> i need help sharing internet connection from eth0 to eth1 ! or what is called ip forwarding
[11:56] <AtaTurk> Healot, :)
[11:56] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, Disk Writer
[11:56] <J_element> whats the command for that
[11:56] <lpfansether> app > system tools > only things listed are that are close to HW thing are config editor and system monitor
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell ramza3 about wireless
[11:56] <Langly> my old p233 laptop runs wifi just fine, if you have a new enough pcmcia the cardbus cards fur you are fine
[11:56] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, try chanhing it to OSS ?
[11:56] <Langly> errm fur == fit
[11:56] <Healot> J_element, you want to do Ethernet bridging?
[11:56] <lpfansether> ack oh and device database
[11:56] <sven_> lpfansether: Ubuntu hardwaredb or smth
[11:56] <ramza3> Hobbsee: nice, thanks
[11:56] <sven_> lpfansether: I'm using the freaky deaky dutch version :p
[11:57] <Healot> yeah, how the hell to do network bridging in Linux?
[11:57] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, the last option OSS driver m it requires lioss.so , it must be there in your system
[11:57] <Healot> well, I think can simply forward all the packet from one eth to another?
[11:57] <lpfansether> doing the network test now
[11:57] <sven_> I'm getting a wierd output when i issue the "df command" I have a partition mounted to /home wich only contains 311mb, the partition is 16 GB and with only 311mb filled it states in df that its 80% filled
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, Now i says: "Couldnt open audio", check that: "You soundcard is configured properly, not another program is using the device" and so on
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> but suddenly it worked ... had to press like 10 songs first
[11:58] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, is it working now ?
[11:58] <Neko_Freak> oh sweet people are awake
[11:58] <aroticoz> well I ahve installed Maya 7.0 according to the HOWTO on the forums, and when i run it says "The application cannot find it's resourse file. Maya needs it to continue"
[11:58] <J_element> Healot,  i want to share the internet connection from eth0 to eth1
[11:58] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, I think so :) Not sure though .. thanks alot!
[11:58] <AtaTurk> its 4:20 PM  here in India
[11:59] <Healot> yeah, I know, J_element, unfortunately, I can't figure that out... are you familiar with IPtable?
[11:59] <AtaTurk>  sorry for the repeat but  i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[11:59] <Healot> well, on way you can do that using forwarding using IPtable...
[11:59] <Neko_Freak> How do i install tar.bz2 files from desktop
[12:00] <_sp> do you think .net adresses are fishing sites ?
[12:00] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, what is it that you are trying to install ?
[12:00] <Neko_Freak> Wine and Azureus
[12:00] <Sp4rKy> anyone know if i could i play to Trackmania with cvscedega
[12:00] <Sp4rKy> ?
[12:00] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak,  if it is azuereus , then you have to extract the files , bz2 is a comperssed format
[12:01] <J_element> healot , yeah a bit
[12:01] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, no, its still very scrambled ..
[12:01] <Healot> do you know how to forward packet from one if to another, J_element, i think you can do something like that to enable share
[12:01] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: why use azureus if you got wine? try mutorrent, it's so much more lightweight
[12:01] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, after extracting the files (much like what you do with zip files in windows) , you will see a jar file , which is a java source code , which can be run using JAVA alone and it needs sun's java
[12:01] <J_element> yeah that
[12:02] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, sounds exacly like a bad FM-signal ..
[12:02] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, hey in ht eoutput lugin also try ALsa
[12:02] <GnarusLeo> ok
[12:03] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, and in the input plugins make sure you have MPEG 1/2/3 support also
[12:03] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: sudo apt-get install wine should work fine, from there just find ~/.wine/drive_c   and put the mutorrent exe in there. it is a delicious alternative to all the Azureus Java hell you may encounter
[12:03] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, do you use u torrent under wine ? i like azureues excpet for its mem hog
[12:03] <cello_rasp> actually you can run a ny win exe on wine just by rightclicking it and running the exe
[12:04] <cello_rasp> AtaTurk: it runs like a dream
[12:04] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, thats great .doesnt wine occupy mem just like azuerus ?
[12:04] <cello_rasp> I would run mutorrent if wine on debian stable wasnt a peice of rubbish
[12:04] <AtaTurk> i know u torrent is low on mem
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, did, checked everything ... still scrambled
[12:05] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, did you try any other player ?
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> dont think I have another player that playes mp3
[12:05] <GnarusLeo> but let me check
[12:05] <cello_rasp> wine is just a compatibility layer. mutorrent is awesome, azureus is great b/c it is crossplatform but they both offer the same amount of stuff you will need. Az offers *too many* things TBH
[12:06] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, why dont try installing amarok ? or perhaps there is ryhtom box by default in gnome
[12:06] <FoamY_LappY> !sources
[12:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:06] <Ekumba> lol,now i have restarted ubuntu and the dvd which a have burnen is empty?why?
[12:07] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp, ever felt that azureus is greedier in the sense it gets good data rate even if the source is scarce ?
[12:07] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: what the model ID?
[12:07] <Ekumba> how can i burn a dvd with files,that are able to play and don't give a error message and which are playabe at winxp?
[12:07] <cello_rasp> AtaTurk: I haven't check that out
[12:08] <AtaTurk> ok i shall check out u torrent myself
[12:08] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: How do I find the wine install? errr... ~/.wine/drive_c?
[12:08] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, did you install wine ?
[12:08] <lpfansether> Model ID for what?
[12:08] <Neko_Freak> yes
[12:09] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, in ubuntu , you  can use apt-get to install wine , once everything is done , you will get a folder like ~/.wine/drive_c which is a psedo fs that imitates windows
[12:09] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: yes
[12:09] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak, wine is a load of libs installed elsewhere. for compatibility it creates a windows-like file directory, so you can even install programs in your user account under wine.
[12:09] <AtaTurk> you can just install anything and everything by dfefault goes into that drive_c directory
[12:10] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: the vaio laptop. there can be compatibility issues, tell me the laptop model number and I can check it out for you
[12:10] <AtaTurk> so in short when a prog asku for installation path ...it will asy c:\prog files\ etc which means in effect i wine it points to that ./wine/drive_c
[12:10] <Ekumba> so,the dvd i burned is somehow burned but i can still brun some files,why?
[12:10] <Ekumba> and why don't i see any of teh files i have burned?
[12:10] <Neko_Freak> so there is no wine icon?
[12:11] <Neko_Freak> that is installed?
[12:11] <cello_rasp> alternatively you can run windows programs from ANY folder :)
[12:11] <AtaTurk> no wine icon
[12:11] <Neko_Freak> k
[12:11] <AtaTurk> you can create a launcher if you wish
[12:12] <cello_rasp> Neko_Freak: the coll thing is that installation under wine will cause any icon-lanuching shortcuts to your gnome desktop, you can launch them from there if you wish :)
[12:12] <AtaTurk> cool* :/
[12:12] <cello_rasp> heh
[12:12] <Ekumba> please help
[12:12] <AtaTurk> cello_rasp,   i would like to know if all the icons i the desktop can be resized together we have icon sizes(desktop) in kde
[12:13] <cyne> how do i create an unrar openwith command in the menus of File Browser to unrar ? i have a command unrar-free installed
[12:13] <cello_rasp> Ekumba, maybe it is a DVD-rw
[12:13] <cello_rasp> cyne: archive-manager will handle that?
[12:14] <lpfansether> cello_rasp: PCG GRS100
[12:14] <cyne> cello_rasp, apparently not
[12:14] <yonib> whois yonib
[12:14] <AtaTurk> afaik some rar will not be handled by arch manager
[12:14] <AtaTurk> i dont know much about what you asked though
[12:14] <cello_rasp> cyne: well, then there are g-scripts.sourceforge.net. under archiving. there is a nautilus script for extracting or compressing all kinds of stuff :)
[12:15] <cyne> thanks! Nautilus is "File Browser" ?
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[12:15] <AtaTurk> yes like windows explorer and kde's knqueror
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> konqueror
[12:16] <cyne> thanks!
[12:16] <cello_rasp> although, it is a simple matter to tell nautilus to open certain types with certain programs every time
[12:17] <cello_rasp> "open with other application"
[12:17] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok, I have installed amarok (looks great btw!), but it says that the engine will not play mp3's ... check you config engine
[12:17] <Draconicus> Ubuntu doesn't seem to know how to use my ethernet card. I put it in after installing Ubuntu, so it wasn't automatically configured. How do I get it to work?
[12:17] <cello_rasp> i really need to clean up my file associations in fact, some types have at least 10 instances of the same program in the context menu
[12:18] <cello_rasp> lpfansether: you will be just fine :)
[12:18] <ramza3> belkin wireless card, F5D7011 hmm hope that works
[12:18] <lpfansether> it works ok?
[12:18] <cello_rasp> ndiswrapper is great with even the cheapest of wireless cards
[12:18] <Ekumba> no,it isn't.it is a normal dvd
[12:18] <lpfansether> how do I get ndiswrapper to work?
[12:18] <lpfansether> is that seperate?
[12:19] <lpfansether> or is it preinstalled on 5.10
[12:19] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, i am almost a noob but lets see if I can help :) , go to setting -> configure amarok
[12:19] <cello_rasp> preinstalled :)
[12:19] <Ekumba> but,what can i do now?i have bruned the files i think.but i can see oder access any of them.i used gbaker.please help
[12:19] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok :)
[12:19] <Hobbsee> !tell lpfansether about ndiswrapper
[12:19] <ramza3> does it matter if it is 802.11b or g
[12:19] <cello_rasp> ramza3 nope!
[12:19] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, in that chose "engines" and tell me that you see , did you install gstreamer ?
[12:19] <ramza3> cello_rasp, I am being silly arent I
[12:20] <cello_rasp> Ekumba: i am having similar problems with DVDs.. they say they will fix gnomebaker with the next release
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> yes, but it was gstreamer who wouldnt play mp3 ... its the only engine Ive got
[12:20] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk
[12:20] <cello_rasp> ramza3 it's always good to be sure :)
[12:20] <Healot> ramza3, no...
[12:20] <ramza3> thank you, my $40 is on the line here
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, yes tel me
[12:21] <cello_rasp> the chipsets for nearly all current wireless cards are incredibly generic, there are only 2 or 3 types
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, then do this install totem-xine
[12:21] <ramza3> well it looks like I am going with the Belkin(bestbuy) F5D7010, unless anybody else says otherwise
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, okey?
[12:21] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, totem-xine is a nice one
[12:21] <GnarusLeo> ok
[12:21] <ramza3> cello_rasp, that is probably true
[12:22] <Ekumba> cello_rasp:but how can i then burn the files?with which program?
[12:22] <Healot> before purchasing hardware... you should check out distro/kernel specific supported hardware
[12:22] <ramza3> you would think hardware folks would start supporting linux flat out.  Who heard of engineers programming on win32
[12:22] <Healot> you should know that not all manufacturers are trying to support GNU/Linux :(
[12:22] <latis> Its bad that I cant get my Audigy2 PCMCIA to work under ubuntu
[12:22] <Draconicus> What do I need to do to make my ethernet controller work?!
[12:22] <ramza3> Healot: I did
[12:23] <latis> its not even lighted up when I insert into the pcmcia slot :(
[12:23] <Neko_Freak> AtaTurk: with Wine can I put in the install disks for say, Warcraft 3 and it will run it?
[12:23] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, then what?
[12:23] <ramza3> latis: what type of latopt
[12:23] <cello_rasp> Ekumba: if you rightlick or mount the blank disk, a bunring interface shouild appear.
[12:23] <latis> ramza3, a clevo
[12:23] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, now just quit amarok and restart it
[12:23] <AtaTurk> AtaTurk, then go back to engines section and see if you  have any other engine , you shud see xine now
[12:23] <ramza3> latis: what type of pcmcia card
[12:24] <latis> ramza3, Audigy2 ZS
[12:24] <ramza3> latis: oh, I thought you said ethernet card, sorry, I am network only, no sound
[12:24] <AtaTurk> Neko_Freak, unlikely dude ,since it might require direct X and all those things are not installed ...it needs heavy configuration ,i dont much about that though
[12:24] <cello_rasp> I must say that Belkin aren't my first choice of wireless tech anymore since I couldn't full "g" out of my router
[12:24] <kofo> /server irc.waixcentral.net
[12:25] <Ekumba> the other,burned disk isn't usefulm,i need another,right?
[12:25] <cello_rasp> my sweex wireess card wouldnt get any more than 802.11b, even under windows drivers
[12:25] <ramza3> cello_rasp, it is the cheapest and bestbuy is 4 miles awayt
[12:25] <latis> ramza3, ok. but how can I check if the pcmcia slot is detected at all?
[12:25] <cello_rasp> latis: system>administrator>device manager
[12:25] <FoamY_LappY> how do i get firefox 1.0.7?
[12:25] <ramza3> latis: normally the slot will work, I bet it is a driver issue
[12:26] <Healot> modprobe usbserial
[12:26] <ubrox> hi, how do i install PHP's PEAR in ubuntu, is there a guide ?
[12:26] <latis> I think I should go for some other distro... yesterday my ATI card worked.. and after a reboot its back to MESA again..
[12:26] <ubrox> latis: and you think in other distro it wont happen ?
[12:26] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, ok totem-xine is installed .. should I try to set amarok to use that one instead?
[12:27] <latis> I read somewhere that ubuntu sets it back
[12:27] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, correct
[12:27] <ramza3> latis: ubuntu is the sh@t
[12:27] <cello_rasp> latis: why not back up your home directory and reinstall ubuntu? i find that helps whenever my installation gets messed up :)
[12:27] <ubrox> hi, how do i install PHP's PEAR in ubuntu, is there a guide ?
[12:27] <latis> ramza3, how come nothing on my laptop works then? Its cutting edge technology
[12:27] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, and autodect output plugin
[12:27] <ramza3> latis: talk to  Linus
[12:28] <latis> ramza3, and why is the newest kernel just 2.6.12 ?
[12:28] <cello_rasp> latis: i think you answered your own question with that last line
[12:28] <ramza3> latis: hehe, yep I am on 2.4 for life
[12:28] <cello_rasp> ramza3 gb2 #debian
[12:28] <thefish> ubrox: apt-get install php4-pear
[12:28] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, I can only find gstreamer in the engine option :(
[12:28] <ramza3> cello_rasp, I was gentoo
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> latis: so what if the latest kernel is just 2.6.12? you can always grab the latest vanilla one from kernel.org and make it yourself
[12:29] <cello_rasp> heh
[12:29] <cello_rasp> goin shoppin
[12:29] <latis> hatake_kakashi, "just" make it myself..
[12:29] <ramza3> cello_rasp, actually, I still think gentoo was good for latest and greatest
[12:29] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, hmmm...let me search in synaptic
[12:29] <Healot> you mean the latest official kernel release? or the stable ubuntu's?
[12:30] <ubrox> i keep having problem with the package xfce4-mixer in the synpatic manager, how do i fix it ?
[12:30] <ramza3> Healot: just installing the latest and greatest code bases
[12:30] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, sorru you have to installl am,arok-xine package
[12:30] <GnarusLeo> ok :)
[12:30] <ubrox> and why does php4-pear want to install php5-common/cli ?
[12:30] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, you shud use  synaptic , type amarok and install all that you see out there :)
[12:31] <GnarusLeo> Il will, thanks again
[12:31] <lpfansether> thanks for your help guys
[12:31] <ubrox> thefish, how do i make it not install php5 for php4-pear?
[12:31] <thefish> ubrox: there is also php-pear, maybe its that
[12:32] <ubrox> and what do i do regarding xfce4-mixer warning i keep getting
[12:32] <ubrox> something in the likes i need to manaually installi t ?
[12:32] <GnarusLeo> What do you people use for burning mp3-->audio cd's ?
[12:33] <ubrox> k3b supports it, no ?
[12:33] <AtaTurk> k3b is a good burning program
[12:33] <ubrox> k3b is good for all :)
[12:33] <GnarusLeo> thanks again :)
[12:35] <ubrox> php-pear wants php5 as well
[12:35] <ubrox> and so does php4-pear...
[12:35] <ubrox> what can i do ?
[12:37] <ubrox> blah...
[12:37] <ubrox> very annoying
[12:38] <tucoz> Hello, I wonder how to search for a specific program within some package in ubuntu.
[12:38] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can make directories owned by 'apache' writable to regular users?
[12:38] <AtaTurk> tucoz, you can type it and search in synaptic , if thats what you mean
[12:39] <tucoz> AtaTurk, ok. I'll try that.
[12:39] <ubrox> foxpaul: chmod o+w ?
[12:39] <thefish> foxpaul: chmod 666 the dir, or make it owned by www-data.users
[12:39] <foxpaul> ubrox: i'll have a go, ta
[12:40] <ubrox> no php users here?!?
[12:40] <sysusr> I am
[12:40] <ubrox> no php-pear users ? :)
[12:41] <ubrox> do you use php4-pear?
[12:41] <sysusr> oh no
[12:41] <sysusr> sorry
[12:41] <ubrox> blah..
[12:41] <ubrox> i'll write my own DB layer at this rate
[12:41] <tucoz> AtaTurk, what I am looking for is for instance a way to search for the programs within a package. Like now, I need to find pcftobdf but I cannot find that by using synaptic or apt-cache search
[12:42] <sysusr> have you got any good tutorials for installing php5 on ubuntu
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> AMAROK was great! Best soundplayer ive seen so far
[12:42] <AtaTurk> oh , I am not sure but I think using apt you can display that
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> Love at first sight :)
[12:42] <AtaTurk> but still not sure
[12:42] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, lol , is it working ?
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> yes AtaTurk, it works great!
[12:42] <GnarusLeo> ty
[12:42] <sysusr> mysql is all screwed up
[12:43] <AtaTurk> woah cool :) pleasure ...you are one of the luckiest :/
[12:43] <Ekumba> cello_rasp:it takes 44 min to brun the dvd??h?why
[12:43] <AtaTurk> freecycle the DVD and buy new one Ekumba :) ?
[12:43] <ubrox> sysusr, why?
[12:44] <foxpaul> is there a way I can see the permissions number from an ls command? i can only see drwrws--x for example
[12:44] <sysusr> ubrox it doesn't see mysql_connect()
[12:45] <AtaTurk> GnarusLeo, amarok is cool , but I hate the load time , xmms works in a jiffy
[12:45] <AtaTurk> but if amarok is loaded then thats not a problem
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> I usually keep it loaded for all time ..
[12:46] <sysusr> ubrox, mysql is installed and so is php5 but for some reason php does not recognise the mysql_connect() function
[12:46] <AtaTurk> is it posible that I make set soem script for zxchat that identifies me once I connect to freenode ?
[12:46] <GnarusLeo> but yes, allways used xmms ... but programs like amarok are great when you library is getting un-organized and big too fast
[12:46] <ubrox> sysusr, maybe you need to install some php mysql addition ?
[12:47] <AtaTurk> true library organisation is impressive in amarok , xmms has lot to impreove on that
[12:47] <GnarusLeo> agreed
[12:47] <thefish> sysusr: you need to install php5-mysql
[12:47] <AtaTurk> hwo do I make myself identified when I  connect to freenoe using IRC ?
[12:47] <AtaTurk> i';; have to type /msg nickserve asdsd all the time
[12:47] <Hobbsee> AtaTurk: which client do you use?
[12:48] <AtaTurk> Xchat
[12:48] <GnarusLeo> AtaTurk, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc doesnt say?
[12:48] <sysusr> ubrox, did that
[12:48] <Hobbsee> AtaTurk: should be something there in the options, maybe about profile?  a password field is the one you want
[12:48] <AtaTurk> let me read that...
[12:48] <AtaTurk> hwy Hobbsee what option ?   I can't figure out how to add the Kubuntu cdrom to the apt database.  It is only looking at /media/cdrom/.  I tried to give it "apt-cdrom add -d '/media/Kubuntu 6.05 i386', but it won't work.
[12:52] <soundray> foxpaul, chmod 777 directory
[12:53] <Hobbsee> sorin: you should just be able to type "sudo apt-cdrom add" and then put in the kubuntu cd, then hit enter
[12:53] <foxpaul> soundray: i dont want to change the permissions, i want to see what they are
[12:53] <soundray> foxpaul: 'ls -l' then
[12:53] <ubrox> sysusr, its ok
[12:53] <sorin> Hobbsee, I get 3 cdroms.
[12:53] <sorin> It is only looking at /media/cdrom
[12:54] <sorin> They are virtual cdroms since it is installed in vmware.  My real dvd-rom, kubuntu iso and ubuntu iso.
[12:54] <foxpaul> soundray: that only shows the code (drwx--wr for example) - i need the actual number (744 for example)
[12:54] <Hobbsee> hmm
[12:54] <defrysk> !upgrade
[12:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[12:55] <Fraeon> I'm still not getting why Gnome refuses to show my drives in Places > Computer
[12:55] <latis> I cant seem to find my pcmcia port in the device manager :S
[12:55] <tzfardea> hey, when i'm saying something to the microphone i hear it in my speakers, how can i stop it?
[12:55] <Fraeon> Since, I have the user flag on each of these drives in /etc/fstab
[12:57] <GnarusLeo> Anyone know a good substitute app for FlashFXP on windows?
[12:57] <IceTox> Hey, am I alone about having trouble understanding that partitioning program at ubuntu? Like.. In debian I can choose how to deal with different already existing partitions. Ubuntu just saw one partition at 80gb on my disk instead of one at 40 and two at 20.
[12:57] <soundray> foxpaul: ls doesn't seem to provide that... What do you need the number for?
[12:58] <foxpaul> i need to replicate the permissions from one directory onto another - but i can't remember how i set them :)
[12:58] <latis> how can I locate the pcmcia slot in the devicemanager?
[12:58] <dankos> hola
[12:59] <dankos> kuros kuros
[12:59] <dankos> holaaaa!!
[12:59] <dankos> :D
[12:59] <dankos> jaja
[12:59] <sysusr> hallo
[01:00] <latis> 0000:06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 <-- that must be my Audigy2 ZX PCMCIA card.. just wonder how I can get it recognized
[01:00] <dankos> hola
[01:00] <dankos> hola
[01:00] <Droppy> hola
[01:01] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:01] <Droppy> quien eres?
[01:01] <dankos> jaaj
[01:01] <Droppy> jajaqjaja
[01:01] <dankos> chupa un weo.!
[01:01] <Droppy> xD
[01:01] <dankos> jaaj
[01:01] <soundray> foxpaul: is using the other chmod notation a possibility? Say you have rwxr-x--- and you want rwxrwxr-x, the command would be chmod g+w,o+rx
[01:01] <IceTox> Anyone familiar with ubuntu's partition program? I'm used to using fdisk, but this partition program of ubuntu seems not to accept earlier partitions containing windows. Any clue how I can keep my old windows partitions when I'm installing ubuntu?
[01:01] <Droppy> CALLATE
[01:01] <Fraeon> What was the command to get glxgears show the fps?
[01:01] <dankos> jaja..
[01:01] <Fraeon> IceTox, manually edit partitions?
[01:01] <HymnToLife> soundray> yep that would work
[01:01] <Nameeater> !glxgears
[01:01] <Fraeon> Or do you have a problem with that part of it?
[01:01] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:02] <dankos> q me hablai en ingles!
[01:02] <HymnToLife> lmao
[01:02] <foxpaul> soundray: which parts of that permissions string are group and which are other?
[01:02] <dankos> no no..
[01:02] <Droppy> si callate gringo culia
[01:02] <Droppy> o culio
[01:02] <dankos> jaja!!
[01:02] <soundray> foxpaul, owner - group - world
[01:02] <Droppy> aahajaakkakakaka
[01:02] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:02] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:02] <foxpaul> soundray: ok cool - many thanks
[01:02] <Droppy> estupido teclado
[01:03] <ubrox> when i'm trying to install php4-pear on ubuntu, it wants to install php5-cli/common, how do i go over that?
[01:03] <Seveas> thanks IdleOne
[01:03] <IdleOne> thank you  Seveas
[01:03] <latis> 0000:06:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 8031 <-- that must be my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA card, any1 who knows how to get it recognized?
[01:03] <soundray> foxpaul: and each group of three corresponds to an octal as a binary, ie. rwx = 7, r-x = 5 etc.
[01:03] <Seveas> ubrox, first install php4-cli or libapache2-mod-php4
[01:03] <camila> hola
[01:03] <Seveas> and then php4-pear
[01:04] <camila> hola
[01:04] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:04] <ubrox> Seveas, but php is working in apache now, so isnt lbiapachce2-mod-php4 installed already?
[01:04] <ubrox> i'll check
[01:05] <ubrox> Seveas, as expected, libapache2-mod-php4 is installed
[01:05] <Seveas> hmm, odd
[01:05] <Seveas> dapper or breezy?
[01:05] <ubrox> breezy
[01:06] <ubrox> pear installation might need php4-cli though, no ?
[01:06] <Chamila> hai
[01:06] <Seveas> yeah
[01:06] <ubrox> if i install php4=cli, then the pear, will it still ask for php5-cli ?
[01:06] <heyjoe2> how do i install login managers from the gnome website once ive downloaded them?
[01:06] <ubrox> or it will see php4-cli and live with that?
[01:06] <Seveas> it will
[01:06] <ubrox> blah
[01:06] <ubrox> so why is the package called php4-cli ?
[01:06] <ubrox> so why is the package called php4-pear ...
[01:07] <Seveas> php4-pear is a transitional package
[01:07] <OperaG> Good morning
[01:07] <Fraeon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9906 <-- what do I have to put here to have Gnome detect the drives in the Places > Computer...thing?
[01:07] <ubrox> Seveas, meaning what ?
[01:07] <ubrox> how do i get it untransitionally installed?
[01:07] <Seveas> ubrox, meaning that I didn't look good - forget that last line ;)
[01:08] <Seveas> install php4-cli and it should work
[01:08] <ubrox> it wont look for php5-cli afterwards?
[01:08] <OperaG> I would like to try Ubuntu, so I burned the Live CD.  However I am getting a few problems at boot...  anyone can help?
[01:08] <Seveas> no
[01:08] <Seveas> drad
[01:08] <Seveas> it will look for php5-common
[01:08] <soundray> OperaG: describe your problem and there is a chance.
[01:08] <SiriusA> hi, i installed firefox manually, it works fine, but the icon in the upper left is not ok.... its just a X not the firefox icon, can i fix this?
[01:09] <heyjoe2> could someone help me with installing login managers from gnome. ive downloaded it and dont know what to do?
[01:09] <ubrox> Seveas, so what good will that do ?
[01:09] <ubrox> i dont want to install php5 :( :( :(
[01:09] <Seveas> nothing - you should file a bug
[01:10] <ubrox> SiriusA, i think the ubuntu wiki site tells how to fix that
[01:10] <IdleOne> SiriusA>  you want to change the webbrower icon?
[01:10] <ubrox> blah
[01:10] <ubrox> gr8
[01:10] <ubrox> so i'll go install pear manually
[01:10] <Seveas> ubrox, btw: php5-common is just docs and examples
[01:10] <Rawplayer> RE
[01:10] <Seveas> so it's safe to install and forget
[01:10] <Seveas> TARD
[01:10] <ubrox> can i mask it
[01:10] <OperaG> 1) I own a Logitech Internet keyboard with Canada-French layout - not recognized correctly even if I choose "french canadian"
[01:10] <ubrox> somehow
[01:10] <Seveas> Rawplayer, :
[01:10] <Seveas> ubrox, not really
[01:10] <ubrox> can i mask the package somehow, like in gentoo ?
[01:10] <ubrox> blah
[01:12] <Rawplayer> :p
[01:12] <OperaG> 2) During the start-up routine, system stalls at "Checking Entreprise File System" (not exact words)
[01:12] <soundray> heyjoe2: you downloaded sorry what?
[01:12] <OperaG> 3) It eventually continues, and then stalls again on an orange/brown back-ground, no icon, no panel
[01:12] <IdleOne> OperaG>  make sure the cd is clean and if that doesnt work burn again at slower speed
[01:12] <senectus> If Ileave my desktop alone for an hour or so, it resets back to the GDM login screen. If I was looking for logs that might explain this, what log files would I look into?
[01:12] <SiriusA> ubrox, ok i`ll take a look
[01:12] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:12] <OperaG> Idle: if it's an error on CD then why does it work for all the preliminary steps of configuration?
[01:12] <IdleOne> OperaG>  thats a good question
[01:12] <ubrox> SiriusA, tnx
[01:13] <OperaG> the Entreprise File System step during boot sequence, what does it refer too?  Could it be somehow linked to the fact I am using ReiserFS file system on my hard drives?
[01:13] <Lorvija> hey.. Can I make applets and windows transparent in those panels? now I can only make panels themselves transparent.
[01:14] <IdleOne> OperaG>  could be but Im not sure
[01:15] <soundray> OperaG: what live CD version is this?
[01:15] <OperaG> I was planning on moving from Linspire to Ubuntu but with these issues I am not sure anymore...
[01:15] <OperaG> soudray: 5.10 (burned it last night)
[01:16] <ubrox> is there any wya to expan my ubuntu partition under VMWARE?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> OperaG: The CDs have a check feature too... not sure if that got mentioned already.
[01:16] <OperaG> tomcat_ : I am not sure of what you mean by that?
[01:16] <xstation> hey
[01:17] <xstation> can I use kmail in a gmone environment
[01:17] <ablomen> Seveas: i think ompaul wants attention on the other channel ;)
[01:17] <heyjoe2> where is the 'configuration editor' on ubuntu. anyone know?
[01:17] <k31th> anyone watch 24 ?
[01:17] <IdleOne> xstation>  yes
[01:17] <Tomcat_> OperaG: There might be a boot option, and if you're in the text mode menu, you can choose to check the data of the CD... so you can be sure your CD is okay.
[01:17] <soundray> OperaG: if your machine is compatible with Linspire, I am sure it is possible to run Ubuntu on it as well.
[01:17] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:17] <ompaul>  ablomen  all done
[01:17] <Seveas> ablomen, ompaul always wants attention ;)
[01:18] <ablomen> lol
[01:18] <SiriusA> ubrox, i dont find anything :(
[01:18] <heyjoe2> come on, someone must know where the configuration editor is?
[01:18] <xstation> IdleOne: How just do apt-get install kmail
[01:18] <ubrox> SiriusA, what did you look for ?
[01:18] <SiriusA> ubotu, firefox and icon
[01:18] <ubotu> SiriusA: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:18] <OperaG> soundray : that was my understanding as well, and also that the things that arent working with Linspire may get better support from Ubunto...
[01:18] <soundray> heyjoe2: what do you want to configure.
[01:18] <IdleOne> xstation>  yup that should work dont forget sudo
[01:18] <soundray> ?
[01:18] <heyjoe2> soundray: splashscreen
[01:18] <soundray> heyjoe2: which one?
[01:19] <OperaG> anyway now I got to go to work - I'll post something on the forum for these issues and see what suggestions I can get...
[01:19] <OperaG> thanks everyone and have a great day
[01:19] <ubrox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:19] <ubrox> look there
[01:19] <ubrox> f you want to keep the original Ubuntu icon for firefox, enter this command:
[01:19] <ubrox>  sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.xpm /opt/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm
[01:19] <ubrox>
[01:19] <heyjoe2> soundray: i dunno, i just downloaded a cool splash screen from the gnome-art site
[01:19] <xstation> IdleOne: Ihave Postfix as my MTA but was after a easy mail client
[01:19] <heyjoe2> and wanted to set it up
[01:20] <IdleOne> xstation>  I dont use kmail but if you want to give it a try it will work
[01:20] <soundray> heyjoe2: I think you will find what you are looking for in System-Administration-Login Manager
[01:21] <heyjoe2> soundray: thanks
[01:21] <xstation> IdleOne: there are a few evolution sylpheed pine elm mutt what do you use
[01:21] <IdleOne> xstation>  evolution here
[01:21] <gnomefreak> sylpheed here :)
[01:22] <IdleOne> morning gnomefreak
[01:22] <gnomefreak> morning IdleOne
[01:22] <soundray> mutt here
[01:22] <Fraeon> I'm insulted
[01:22] <Fraeon> You didn't list Thunderbird.
[01:22] <xstation> IdleOne: what do you like about evolution
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Fraeon: he didnt list a bunch of them ;)
[01:22] <IdleOne> xstation>  Im not very picky about mail clients as long as I can retrieve and read Im good
[01:23] <xstation> gnomefreek: what do you like about sylpheed
[01:23] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: sending might help a bit too
[01:23] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  that isnt necesary I use gmail to send if I have to...but this is offtopic :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> xstation: it hasnt let me down yet :)
[01:24] <soundray> IdleOne: xstation is looking for a mail client recommendation, so you're fully on-topic in my opinion.
[01:24] <stoneCold> Hey any one knows root password for Ubuntu live cd ?
[01:24] <IdleOne> soundray>  indeed :)
[01:25] <soundray> stoneCold: there is none. Use sudo.
[01:25] <stoneCold> ok fine thanks
[01:25] <IdleOne> xstation>  give them all a try and see what you prefer
[01:26] <gnomefreak> xstation: im tempted to agree with IdleOne give them alla shot its the only way you'll get what you like :)
[01:26] <soundray> xstation: start with 'mail'
[01:26] <soundray> ;)
[01:26] <IdleOne> xstation>  I went with evolution becuase it was installed by default..liked it cuase was simple for me atleast to setup my email addys..so I justkept using it
[01:27] <xstation> thanks guys
[01:27] <IdleOne> xstation>  no problem
[01:28] <Reg|ster> how can i test if my nvidia drivers are installed ?
[01:28] <IdleOne> !tell Reg|ster  aout nvidia
[01:28] <Reg|ster> ?
[01:28] <IdleOne> yhmmm that didnt work
[01:29] <Ophiocus> !tell Reg|ster  about nvidia
[01:29] <Ophiocus> there :)
[01:29] <soundray> IdleOne: aout format has long been abandoned ;)
[01:29] <IdleOne> heh thanks Ophiocus
[01:29] <Reg|ster> thx :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Reg|ster: glxgears -printfps
[01:30] <IdleOne> soundray>  they should bring it back I miss it
[01:30] <odat> anyone able to help me track down a weird startup program
[01:30] <Rod> hi
[01:30] <odat> each time i start this machine it opens gedit
[01:30] <IdleOne> hey Rod
[01:30] <soundray> IdleOne: really?
[01:31] <soundray> odat, look in System-Preferences-Sessions
[01:31] <IdleOne> soundray>  lol I guess I should anser no?
[01:31] <jojobar> odat you left im open wen you close the machine
[01:32] <xstation> back again
[01:32] <IdleOne> xstation>  wb
[01:32] <soundray> IdleOne: I'm a non-coding user (well almost), so I wouldn't know. But I've never heard a complaint about the ELF switch.
[01:32] <gnomefreak> wb
[01:32] <odat> jojobar, i have closed gedit a thousand time before shutting down or restarting and it still opens when i start this machine
[01:32] <xstation> whats Sylpheed-Claws mean
[01:32] <gnomefreak> that is sylpheed
[01:32] <soundray> odat, have you checked System-Preferences-Sessions
[01:32] <gnomefreak> i would get the gtk version
[01:32] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  mail client
[01:33] <odat> soundray, yes there is nothing related to gedit in there
[01:33] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  nm
[01:33] <soundray> odat, not even in the Startup tab?
[01:33] <odat> soundray, nope
[01:33] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: we told him sylpheed already (i was assuming he knew mail client)
[01:34] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  i read your staement as What is and not That is :/
[01:34] <gnomefreak> ahhh
[01:35] <xstation> gnomefreak:did a google for openpgp and mixmasteris what I use and i was refered to sypheed-claws
[01:36] <xstation> gnomefreak: sorry another world
[01:37] <soundray> odat, I would open gconf-editor and search for gedit in key values.
[01:37] <Rod> hey im looking for that hardware compatability list, where is it?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ok how do you people do the mailing lists :( omg 127 messages in less than 12 hours :(
[01:38] <lasindi[lappy] > Is there a way to fake your MAC address on your ethernet card in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <elkbuntu> time for a round of name the missing package -->  configure: error: Could not find jpeglib.h
[01:38] <soundray> !tell Rod about hardware
[01:38] <Rod> tnx
[01:38] <soundray> elkbuntu: libjpeg62-dev
[01:38] <Sanne> elkbuntu, you can find out on packages.ubuntu.com under "Search the contents of packages"
[01:39] <Sanne> elkbuntu, very handy, that :)
[01:39] <Error_X> Why can't I play mp3 files? (I'm using amarok)
[01:39] <soundray> !tell Error_X about restricted
[01:40] <Rod> Okay. I have this problem. I have a ubuntu (dapper, fl4) live cd. I want to use the internet with it but it a wirelessnetwork with  D-Link
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> DWL-122
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> prism2_usb
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> No
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> 2005-11-14
[01:40] <Rod>
[01:40] <Rod> USB
[01:40] <Rod> oops sry!
[01:41] <Seveas> foolish pasters
[01:41] <soundray> Seveas: I think it was an innocent mistake.
[01:41] <cjr> Hi all, it looks like my video card is broken, so I'll be needing a new one. I'm not a gamer, and I want something cheap but well-supported bu Ubuntu. What should I buy and how do I configure it? (Will Ubuntu just recognise the new card on boot?)
[01:41] <Error_X> I convert my mp3 files to .ogg instead....
[01:42] <Fredde> Is there more than me having problem with flash in ubuntu?
[01:42] <soundray> Fredde: yes.
[01:42] <lasindi[lappy] > Is there a way to fake your MAC address on your ethernet card in Ubuntu?
[01:42] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , ifconfig eth0 hwaddr
[01:42] <Seveas> man ifconfig for the details
[01:43] <soundray> Fredde: amd64?
[01:43] <latis> how do I change the port in the bittorrent application shipped with ubuntu?
[01:43] <Fredde> soundray: intel / x86
[01:43] <Error_X> What is the latest ubuntu?
[01:43] <Error_X> breezy?
[01:43] <latis> 5.10 breezy
[01:44] <Error_X> As I thought
[01:44] <latis> any knows how to change port in the default bittorrent application shipped with ubuntu?
[01:45] <soundray> Rod, do you see a wlan entry in System-Administration-Networking?
[01:45] <hjnh> test
[01:45] <IdleOne> success
[01:45] <soundray> Fredde: what's the problem?
[01:45] <Rod> soundray, well i dont see it atm but I know it is there :) Only lo is recognised, not the usb device (networkcarcd) itself
[01:46] <Rod> soundray, it not that what you mean, is it?
[01:46] <soundray> Rod, it is. I think you'll have to do a harddisk install before you can use your wlan adapter.
[01:47] <Rod> aai to bad
[01:47] <Fredde> soundray: sometimes the script is completly wrong if you compare to flash on windows, and some swf the text isn't shown
[01:47] <soundray> Rod, but then it'll probably work, unless you have a different chipset under the same model name (D-Link does that famously).
[01:48] <Rod> hehe well i cant install anything...There is a forumthread on how to get in working on a hd install but i cant do such install here
[01:48] <soundray> Fredde: are you using the Macromedia Flash plugin, or one of the free ones?
[01:48] <soundray> Rod, the 5.10 live CD isn't for installing.
[01:49] <iidnet> hi im totally new here
[01:49] <soundray> iidnet: welcome.
[01:49] <Rod> soundray, i have the flight4 dapper live cd... but I mean, i cant install anything on this computer, im not allowed to lol
[01:49] <iidnet> yeah thanks
[01:49] <Rod> cuz i look kinda like i dont know what im dooing hehe
[01:49] <Fredde> soundray: the non free, I think
[01:49] <soundray> Rod, I see.
[01:49] <iidnet> i hav a question with u guys
[01:50] <iidnet> at the terminal command i dont see any root just users
[01:50] <soundray> Fredde, you could enter "about:plugins" in the firefox address field to see if you have the Macromedia one and/or others.
[01:50] <soundray> Fredde: if there are others as well, there can be conflicts.
[01:50] <iidnet> when i su i could not get something...
[01:50] <IdleOne> iidnet>  use sudo
[01:51] <gnomefreak> iidnet: use sudo
[01:51] <IdleOne> !tell iidnet  about sudo
[01:51] <iidnet> ok i'll try it now
[01:51] <iidnet> yeah i already heard about sudo
[01:51] <latis> I dont think my pcmcia port is installed, how can I check?
[01:51] <soundray> Fredde: if the non-free one is the only one, it's because Macromedia don't support Linux as well as Windows.
[01:51] <hiquality>  laptop for sale 500$ want it gone today. price includes shipping, case, wireless router. message me if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:51] <webex> how do i se what process are runnin trew the terminal window?
[01:51] <Fredde> soundrat: I got two
[01:51] <gnomefreak> webex: ps aux
[01:52] <soundray> latis, run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug a card.
[01:52] <webex> thanks gnomefreak
[01:52] <gnomefreak> webex: yw
[01:52] <soundray> Fredde: I suggest you remove one of them.
[01:52] <Fredde> soundray: application/x-shockwave-flash, Shockwave Flash and application/futuresplash, FutureSplash Player
[01:52] <soundray> Fredde: oh, right, no, that should be fine.
[01:52] <latis> soundray, Mar  9 13:53:00 localhost kernel: [4295678.722000]  PCMCIA: socket f7f7e42c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power
[01:53] <Fredde> wait
[01:53] <Fredde> I got to labels with shockwave flash
[01:53] <latis> soundray,  seems to be installed, but how come my Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA card cant get installed?
[01:53] <Fredde> soundray: I got to labels with shockwave flas
[01:54] <soundray> latis, maybe there aren't any Linux drivers for it, I don't know.
[01:54] <latis> soundray, Ive done the steps on alsa page, but it just wont work
[01:54] <Fredde> soundray: Filnamn: libflashplayer.so
[01:54] <Fredde> , Shockwave Flash 7.0 r25
[01:54] <Fredde> soundray: and Filnamn: libflashplayer.so
[01:54] <Fredde> , Shockwave Flash 7.0 r61
[01:56] <soundray> Fredde: if you have two for  application/x-shockwave-flash, there could be a conflict. Check the firefox plugin directories and move the .so files to a backup location.
[01:56] <soundray> Fredde: I mean the ones that correspond to plugins that you want to remove.
[01:56] <Fredde> soundray: is firefox in the home?
[01:56] <Fredde> soundray: same filename and .*
[01:57] <soundray> Fredde: there is a location for config files in ~/.firefox/ , yes.
[01:58] <odat> dapper = Little and active; spruce; trim; smart; neat in dress or
[01:58] <odat>    appearance; lively.
[01:58] <Fredde> soundray: isn't there a easyway to deactivate?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> odat: ok than dapper drake would be a duck that wears a dress ;)
[01:59] <soundray> Fredde: yes, there is: move the .so file to a backup location. Or delete it (even easier).
[01:59] <bradley_> hello everyone
[02:00] <Fredde> soundray: but where can I find the .so? :/
[02:00] <bradley_> does anyone know where i can get the OSX-like dock for gnome?
[02:00] <soundray> Fredde, locate libflashplayer.so
[02:01] <hatake_kakashi> bradley_: probably at gnome-look.org
[02:01] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: so, from reading the man page, why shouldn't it be "ifconfig eth0 hw ether <address>" (to specify the class)?
[02:01] !lilo:*! Someone just advertised a $500 laptop for sale on several channels.... his aim account is ogd443.... if you want to help us get rid of this person before he spends all day doing this, please use AIM let him know what you think of his advertisements. :)
[02:01] <Hatfield> ()() please help () what is the shortcut for opening the console, when i am currently viewing a dir, so that the console opens up in the dir i am in??? ()
[02:01] <bradley_> hatake_kakashi: is it a skin? or is it a new app?  Thanks!
[02:02] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , it should be ;)
[02:02] <Muad_Dibber> hi guys
[02:02] <Hatfield> ?
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> bradley_: not sure but go check it out, it might help with your query
[02:02] <bradley_> ok, thank you!
[02:02] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: okay, when I try that, it tells me "Device or resource busy"; what might I have to do to free it up?
[02:03] <Hatfield> anyone in hear help me?
[02:03] <Muad_Dibber> is it possible to setup an sshd or ftpd from the livecd? cause i can't seem to find it
[02:03] <soundray> !patience
[02:03] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[02:03] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , ifconfig eth0 down
[02:03] <Hatfield> cool
[02:03] <Seveas> Muad_Dibber, apt-get install openssh-server
[02:04] <hacker>    ?????
[02:04] <Hatfield> how do i open console when i am in a dir?
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> COuldnt' find package openssh server
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> Oh wait, it has some errors before
[02:04] <Muad_Dibber> let me look into that
[02:05] <Fredde> soundray: now I only got one shockwave, I had three  :p
[02:05] <soundray> Hatfield: are you in nautilus? Are you sure there is such a shortcut?
[02:05] <Dr_J> afternoon.. im trying to install webmin. it installed ok but now i cant connect to it.. keep getting access denied.. any ideas?
[02:05] <soundray> Dr_J: I think it requires a web server.
[02:06] <_lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: works great! :) Thanks for the help
[02:06] <Hatfield> i am in ubuntu
[02:07] <Fredde> soundray: I'm still having problems :/
[02:08] <soundray> Hatfield: the file browser is called nautilus.
[02:08] <Hatfield> yes
[02:09] <webex> gnomefreak, you know how to use ps to list the process in long format? cant find it in the man pages..
[02:09] <gnomefreak> i have never seen an option to open a terminal to a dir that your in in nautilus
[02:09] <gnomefreak> webex: ps
[02:09] <Hatfield> what filemanager should i use?
[02:09] <webex> gnomefreak, ?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> webex: i think ps will list everything
[02:10] <soundray> webex, ps auxw
[02:10] <gnomefreak> no w
[02:10] <gnomefreak> soundray: he did that one already
[02:10] <soundray> gnomefreak: why not?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> never saw the w
[02:10] <gnomefreak> is that a typo or is that the command?
[02:10] <webex> dose aux list it in long format? whats the short one then?
[02:11] <soundray> gnomefreak: I never make typograhpical errors ;)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ps aux is long on
[02:11] <gnomefreak> lol soundray
[02:11] <webex> gnomefreak, and thats make the sort one? just ps? =S
[02:11] <gnomefreak> i found ps aux longer than ps auxw
[02:11] <iidnet> im back...
[02:12] <gnomefreak> webex: yes ps is short
[02:12] <soundray> Hatfield: just open a terminal and enter cd /target/directory (replacing the desired target)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ps lists what you have open
[02:12] <iidnet> anybody from the philippines?
[02:12] <webex> gnomefreak, man thats short =P .. thanks for the help
[02:13] <iidnet> when i started ubuntu last year i did not explore it well...but for now i really appreciated its developments and features
[02:13] <jackphil> hi, is there an analog to kudzu in ubuntu?
[02:14] <soundray> jackphil: is that the hardware recognition thing in Red Hat?
[02:14] <Hatfield> thank you soundray
[02:14] <jackphil> soundray, yes.
[02:14] <JustinLynn> soundray: it's the automatic system configuration change detector and configurer.
[02:16] <zarephath> What file to edit to make my ip address static?
[02:16] <soundray> jackphil: Ubuntu pretty much relies on a stable system configuration. There is hotplug and udev for devices that typically change, but, afaik, nothing that identifies, say, a new graphics card.
[02:16] <Seveas> zarephath, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:16] <soundray> zarephath: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:16] <zarephath> Seveas, soundray: Thanks..
[02:18] <soundray> zarephath: so, who are you going to listen to, now? ;)
[02:18] <jackphil> soundra, what's hotplug? there is no program called hotplug in my system
[02:18] <Hatfield> is anyone from TEXAS?
[02:19] <soundray> jackphil: dapper or breezy?
[02:19] <jackphil> dapper
[02:19] <soundray> jackphil: relies on udev alone, I think. Seveas?
[02:20] <Seveas> soundray, correct
[02:20] <soundray> jackphil: anyway, is this a general enquiry or is something not working?
[02:21] <soundray> Seveas: thanks.
[02:21] <Hoxzer> Hmmm... I can't burn cd/dvd's in ubuntu for some reason
[02:21] <GnarusLeo> When trying to install VMware I ge this error that says my kernel was compiled with gcc3, and im trying to use gcc4, please recompile your kernel ... wtf? need vmmon modules (Which gcc obviously could compile) ...
[02:21] <Hoxzer> BUrning process is just damn fast but there is no data on cd after bunr
[02:21] <Hoxzer> *burn
[02:22] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:22] <Seveas> export CC=gcc-3.4
[02:22] <Seveas> ./vmware-config.pl
[02:23] <GnarusLeo> ty!
[02:23] <jackphil> soundray, the vmware network card can't be found after i cloned machine
[02:23] <zarephath> Do I need to include the up statement in interfaces? Or does Ubuntu automatically bring up the device on boot with static ip?
[02:24] <zarephath> I am guessing it will do it at boot..
[02:24] <soundray> zarephath: it brings up devices for which you have defined a line like 'auto eth0'
[02:25] <GnarusLeo> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:25] <GnarusLeo>  kernel?" it asks
[02:25] <zarephath> soundray: So since it was already set to auto for dhcp no need to mess with it..thanks
[02:25] <soundray> jackphil: I don't know. Try asking in #ubuntu+1, it's a channel for dapper discussion.
[02:25] <GnarusLeo> Seveas, it asks for the dir of C header files that match your running kernel ..
[02:26] <eXistenZ> what is the best burning proggie for ubuntu
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> p3k
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> eXistenZ, p3k
[02:26] <Seveas> GnarusLeo, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:26] <zarephath> GnarusLeo: Usually /usr/src/linux
[02:26] <GnarusLeo> THanks both
[02:26] <jackphil> soundray, thx
[02:26] <IdleOne> eXistenZ>  gnomebaker k3b serpentine take your pick
[02:27] <LuisBG> I've got the fglrx driver working good for everything, but 3d where mesa appears and I want to use fglrx for 3d too... how do I do it? read like a dozen ubuntu howtos :(
[02:27] <zarephath> Is there a way to change a .rpm into a .deb file?
[02:28] <soundray> zarephath: man alien
[02:28] <IdleOne> zarephath>  what package do you want cuase there probably is a .deb for it
[02:28] <zarephath> IdleOne: Nope...I was wanting to see how to do it for vmware
[02:28] <zarephath> thanks though!
[02:29] <SiriusA> if i start firefox from the konsole i get this errors:
[02:29] <SiriusA> (firefox-bin:12892): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[02:29] <SiriusA> what's this about?
[02:29] <Fonzie2>                                          Ashly
[02:29] <Fonzie2> sorry
[02:29] <zarephath> Are there additional steps in getting 3D acceleration working on a GeForce 6200?
[02:29] <soundray> SiriusA: Don't know, but I get those all the time. Got used to them...
[02:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zarephath about nvidia
[02:30] <defrysk> SiriusA, you use automatix ?
[02:30] <zarephath> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:30] <gnomefreak> yw zarephath
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i cringe at that word :(
[02:31] <SiriusA> defrysk, no automatikS
[02:31] <SiriusA> defrysk, but i installed firefox manually
[02:31] <defrysk> SiriusA, one thing less toblame :)
[02:31] <soundray> defrysk: would that be a side effect from automatix?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[02:31] <defrysk> soundray, possibly
[02:32] <defrysk> soundray, automatix is some script from some clueless person
[02:32] <defrysk> SiriusA, then blame the manual install
[02:33] <SiriusA> defrysk, i need the manual install, cause the 64 bit version dont work very well with flash and java
[02:34] <anildigit> which is best irc chat soft in ububtu?
[02:34] <soundray> defrysk: I know what it is. I tried it on a non-essential machine. No bad effects there. I have the same error as SiriusA on another machine where I didn't use automatix (blamed it on being an amd64 install, so far).
[02:34] <defrysk> soundray, I do not have amd64 so cannot confirm it
[02:35] <eXistenZ> IdleOne, what email client do you suggest? thunderbird?
[02:35] <anildigit> idleOne is always here?
[02:35] <anildigit> who r u?
[02:36] <anildigit> Making timepass here?
[02:36] <soundray> SiriusA: you can install the 32-bit Ubuntu firefox package in a 32bit-chroot environment.
[02:36] <soundray> !chroot
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:36] <SiriusA> soundray, firefox works fine so far
[02:36] <SiriusA> just wondering about those errors
[02:36] <soundray> SiriusA: I'm surprised that with your manual install, you don't have more serious problems than that.
[02:37] <SiriusA> no, works really fine
[02:37] <soundray> SiriusA: so you used a 32bit binary?
[02:37] <SiriusA> yes
[02:37] <soundray> Interesting.
[02:37] <weedar_> What is the sound device? I have no /dev/dsp* yet still I have sound
[02:37] <thegladiator> anildigit, hi
[02:38] <soundray> weedar_: /dev/dsp and /dev/audio are provided by ALSA's compatibility layer only when needed by programs that rely on the old OSS scheme.
[02:38] <weedar_> soundray, VMware wants a device to output sound to =)
[02:39] <weedar_> soundray, what do you suggest I do then?
[02:39] <Fraeon> !oss
[02:39] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fraeon
[02:39] <soundray> weedar_: give it /dev/dsp
[02:40] <weedar_> soundray, but there exists no /dev/dsp as I said
[02:40] <soundray> weedar_: it should work anyway.
[02:40] <SiriusA> hmhm my locales seems to be fucked up
[02:40] <SiriusA> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/359/
[02:40] <zarephath> Ahh...nvidia installed...how to double check to make sure all is well?
[02:40] <SiriusA> why posix?
[02:40] <weedar_> soundray, well, it doesn't :)
[02:40] <soundray> weedar_: if not, do a sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[02:40] <SiriusA> my locales look like this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/360/
[02:40] <defrysk> glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:40] <defrysk> or something
[02:41] <weedar_> brilliant soundray - thanks! :)
[02:41] <soundray> weedar_: working?
[02:41] <zarephath> defrysk: okey thanks..
[02:41] <weedar_> I got /dev/dsp at least
[02:41] <defrysk> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:41] <defrysk> even
[02:41] <soundray> weedar_: ah, at least.
[02:42] <GnarusLeo> What??? Isnt VMware free anymore?
[02:42] <Ng> vmware has never been free
[02:42] <zarephath> anyone: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:42] <weedar_> GnarusLeo, the player is free, not workstation edition
[02:42] <Ng> it's commercial software
[02:43] <GnarusLeo> whats the player all about?
[02:43] <zarephath> Actually they have a server version that is beta that is free...AFAIK all other products are commercial at this time..there is talk they make ESX server free in the future
[02:43] <weedar_> It let's you use a virtual machine, so if you made one with bochs you're all set =)
[02:43] <GnarusLeo> weedar_, whats the player all about?
[02:43] <Ng> it lets you run a premade virtual machine
[02:44] <weedar_> I _just_ exaplined that GnarusLeo
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> oh
[02:44] <zarephath> But you can't make changes to it and have them save
[02:44] <GnarusLeo> oh, sorry
[02:44] <weedar_> *explained
[02:44] <weedar_> soundray, but will that module get loaded on reboot now or do I have to add it to /etc/modules ?
[02:45] <webex> anyone knows what the flag for listing the highest amount of cpu use first whith the top command?
[02:45] <soundray> weedar_: if you add it to /etc/modules, you can be sure that it'll work.
[02:45] <GnarusLeo> weedar_ and Ng: it was _VERY_ easy to make one without registering :) Just make it with the vmware (Dont turn it on), and use vmplayer to use it :D
[02:46] <soundray> GnarusLeo, zarephath, there is a difference between Free software and software available at no cost.
[02:46] <zarephath> Can someone look at the output of glxinfo and tell me what I need to do to fix the problem? I installed per wiki instructions.. and rebooted...http://pastebin.com/592553
[02:46] <weedar_> Free and stolen is not the same thing :)
[02:47] <tim_> hi there, i seem to be unable to install the nforce drivers since it tells me that my kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4 and my current gcc is 4.*. What should I do?
[02:47] <zarephath> soundray: Sure I know that...
[02:47] <Hoxzer> jesus guys
[02:47] <Hoxzer> I need to be able to burn when in ubuntu
[02:48] <weedar_> So get an application to do that then Hoxzer, like K3b for KDE
[02:48] <ompaul> Hoxzer, less of the language why not use nautilus k3b or gnomebaker
[02:48] <weedar_> I'm not sure what the best gnome equivalent would be though
[02:48] <zarephath> Exactly why I suggested the beta Server...all you need to do is register and they will send you a serial for windows and linux versions :-)
[02:49] <soundray> zarephath: have you got the 'Load "glx"' line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:49] <Hoxzer> Weedar_: I have a gnome burner and nero but they both dont work
[02:49] <zarephath> soundray: Maybe I have a typo...let me review..thanks
[02:49] <Hoxzer> Burning process is just fast but doesn't write any data to cd
[02:49] <weedar_> on the other hand you now have lovely coasters
[02:50] <soundray> zarephath: failing that, check if /var/log/Xorg.0.log is more verbose about your problem.
[02:50] <zarephath> soundray: Great..will do
[02:50] <ompaul> Hoxzer, so install k3b or gnomebaker
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I have it
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I meant gnomebaker when I said gnome burner
[02:50] <webex> anyone know the flag for listing the memory use first whit the top command?
[02:50] <weedar_> have you tried k3b Hoxzer ?
[02:50] <Hoxzer> I might give a try
[02:51] <defrysk> serpentine for audio
[02:51] <weedar_> If you are sure your settings are correct you might want to try starting the program from a console, as some programs output errors to the console that don't get shown in the GUI
[02:51] <eXistenZ> Can anyone recommend me a good rss reader
[02:51] <defrysk> atom
[02:52] <soundray> Hoxzer, simplifying on weedar_'s approach, run 'cdrecord -v speed=32 dev=0,0,0 file.iso -pad' on the console (with a valid file.iso in the directory) and see if that gives you intelligible error msgs.
[02:52] <Hoxzer> will try
[02:52] <Hoxzer> I first test gnome baker again with new burner
[02:53] <weedar_> soundray, that must be _the_ most incorrect usage of the word "simplifying" but still that was a great suggestion :)
[02:54] <soundray> weedar_: hey, don't call it incorrect, call it creative ;)
[02:55] <Hoxzer> soundray: there you go http://pastebin.com/592561
[02:55] <Paedrigh> I've got a problem with my internet/Lan connection. Tried to change IP-Gateway-Subnet in network settings, seemed fine, but when doing ifconfig it didn't match up at all. Anyone up for helping?
[02:55] <weedar_> hehe
[02:55] <tim_> my problem with the wrong gcc version when installing the nforce drivers aint very common huh? =/
[02:56] <danx84> giorno
[02:56] <Digis> why does ubuntu does not use libfreetype6+BCI? cause fedora uses it, and it fonts looks much better. Is there any posibility enable it in ubuntu manually?
[02:57] <Digis> As I know, it is because of patent issues
[02:57] <wewrrss> i have hp nx 6110, tryin to
[02:57] <soundray> Hoxzer: 1) try with sudo; 2) do what it suggests and run sudo cdrecord -scanbus
[02:57] <rohan> where can i check the dapper road map ?
[02:57] <rohan> so i can see when the next flight will be out
[02:57] <defrysk> !roadmap
[02:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[02:58] <rohan> defrysk: lol
[02:58] <soundray> !dapper
[02:58] <ubotu> The pre-release name for next release of Ubuntu, actual name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software as such it _May_Break_! > /join #ubuntu+1 < Channel for IRC - Use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo easy update
[02:58] <defrysk> rohan, try google, dapper is out april 20
[02:58] <rohan> defrysk: whoa, long wait :(
[02:58] <tim_> is there some function to reinstall my audio stuff?
[02:58] <rohan> > month
[02:58] <tim_> like scanning for hardware, installing driver?
[02:59] <bradley_> hello...
[02:59] <briceg> hello evrybody!
[02:59] <bradley_> i've hunted around and cant seem to find the osx-like dock... i've seen it in tons of screenshots... anyone know what application is used and where i can get it?
[02:59] <weedar_> I'm not sure I feel comfortable with ubuntu having a release on 4/20..
[02:59] <Hoxzer> soundray: tried with sudo and seems like "sudo cdrecord -scanbus" gives same error strange :/
[03:00] <briceg> Does someone ever installed a server cygwin on a window?
[03:00] <Toma> bradley_, gdesklets
[03:00] <bradley_> Toma: i've got that installed... is it a them then?
[03:00] <bradley_> *theme
[03:00] <Toma> yep
[03:00] <soundray> Hoxzer: hmm, maybe your burner isn't recognized as such. Is it a new drive? SATA?
[03:01] <bradley_> might i ask where that theme is located? or how to install it?  <---total n00b here
[03:01] <briceg> ok... bye
[03:01] <Toma> you want StarterBar
[03:01] <bradley_> starter bar?
[03:01] <Toma> yep
[03:01] <bradley_> thank you, let me look that up
[03:01] <Hoxzer> soundray: IDE and it has worked on ubuntu 5.04
[03:02] <Toma> !info gdeskets-data
[03:02] <Toma> !info gdesklets-data
[03:02] <ubotu> gdesklets-data: (Applets for gdesklets), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.35.2-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3924 kB, Installed size: 13296 kB
[03:02] <heyjoe2> anyone know any sites that help u with making the fonts on ubuntu look a little nicer, perhaps a little mac os x 'er
[03:02] <Toma> get that ^
[03:02] <Toma> brb
[03:02] <heyjoe2> i think ubuntu is great, but the fonts are a little ugly
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell heyjoe2 about fonts
[03:03] <Hoxzer> I think the desktop doesn't look good at all
[03:03] <soundray> Hoxzer: I'm out of ideas, sorry.
[03:03] <Hoxzer> :D
[03:03] <Hoxzer> me too :(
[03:03] <daem0n> is there a way to change the permissions of any file that goes into a folder automatically, e.g. any file that is moved into /home/user/public_html has its permissions changed to give read access to others
[03:03] <Paedrigh> I've got a problem with my internet/Lan connection. Tried to change IP-Gateway-Subnet in network settings, seemed fine, but when doing ifconfig it didn't match up at all. Anyone up for helping?
[03:04] <Hoxzer> It's pretty fun that I have to boot windows just for one cd bunr
[03:04] <Hoxzer> *burn
[03:04] <batman> does anyone know where i would need to put a font so i could use it in gimp?
[03:04] <soundray> Paedrigh: try 'ifup eth0' or whatever device you changed, then ifconfig
[03:05] <rohan> ehm.. flight5 is out ?!
[03:05] <gnomefreak> rohan: not sure if it hit the servers but i think it has
[03:05] <Paedrigh> eth0 was the one...ist that a zero in the end?
[03:05] <soundray> Paedrigh: yes.
[03:06] <Paedrigh> soundray: I tried that, but nothing really happened
[03:06] <rohan> gnomefreak: oh, ok..
[03:06] <webex> anyone knows if there is any good tutorial for setting up a fileserver whit ubuntu somewhere?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> webex, file server .... nfs ?
[03:07] <soundray> Paedrigh: no errors?
[03:08] <Paedrigh> I can't remember what it said, was probably an error message... I can try it again and write down what it says
[03:08] <webex> wickedpuppy,  well i got almost 1tb in my windows computer, now i got a good spare computer running ubuntu.. my ide was to raid them whit raid 5 and probably some hardware raid card, and share them whit my windows computer via 1gb lan.. but there is some parts of it im not all clear whit..
[03:09] <soundray> Paedrigh: hold on...
[03:10] <soundray> Paedrigh: try 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', then check with ifconfig again.
[03:10] <Paedrigh> alright, I'll do that, and I'll make a note of what it says...
[03:10] <webex> anyone here running a raid system?
[03:10] <Paedrigh> will you be here in 30 minutes, soundray?
[03:11] <soundray> Paedrigh: no, but other people will be able to help.
[03:11] <Enthusiast78> webex, Are you into software raid or hardware raid?
[03:11] <Paedrigh> thanx
[03:12] <bobble> Hi, anyone know how to stop audio cds autoloading into Konqueror?
[03:12] <webex> Enthusiast78, thats what i had some questions about.. anyone running a software raid?
[03:12] <mod^> Whats xlibg?
[03:13] <Enthusiast78> webex, Look for 'raidtools'.
[03:13] <lafferpt> how do I send an email using only the command line?
[03:13] <soundray> bobble: if nobody answers here, you may be more lucky in #kubuntu
[03:14] <soundray> lafferpt: echo "Mail body" | mail -s Subject someone@somewhere
[03:14] <soundray> "
[03:14] <bobble> soundray: Thanks
[03:14] <funkyHat> It looks like some work needs doing on the Beagle WiKi page
[03:14] <daem0n> is there a way to change the permissions of any file that goes into a folder automatically, e.g. any file that is moved into /home/user/public_html has its permissions changed to give read access to others
[03:14] <funkyHat> But I don't really know what the facts are (Or I wouldn't be looking at the page ;))
[03:15] <soundray> bobble: if you use mutt instead of mail, you can send attachments from the cli as well.
[03:15] <webex> im interested in the performance of a software vs hardware raid.. i have a amd 64 2800+ 1gb ram.. the computer will only runn the filesystem (fileserver) you thing a software raid will pull that off whit good results?
[03:15] <vtomek> where can i found the original ubuntu kernel patch list?
[03:16] <soundray> daem0n: I don't think there is. You could run a process that regularly sets all files as readable: chmod -R a+r /home/user/public_html
[03:16] <webex> anyone running a raid system under ubuntu?
[03:16] <Enthusiast78> webex, I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid is what you need.
[03:16] <lafferpt> soundray, tks.. but if I want to had a paragraph to the email how do I do that?
[03:16] <mod^> Is there a way to let people see _only_ their processes with 'ps' command?
[03:17] <Enthusiast78> webex, Believe me, setting up software raid is a no-brainer.
[03:17] <Toma-> ive got a problem, when i boot, and go straight to x, i get reeeeally weird keyboard input. i hit ctl-alt-f1 then f7 to goto a console and back, then my keyboard works fine.... and ideas?
[03:17] <webex> Enthusiast78, thanks, what you mean by "no-brainer"?
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Toma-> !ops
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Enthusiast78> webex, I mean it's pretty easy to set it up.
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <panzer> flood
[03:17] <Toma-> panzer, wow, ur l33t
[03:18] <webex> Enthusiast78, ok =) sounds good
[03:18] <Seveas> sigh, lots of chileans are being assholes today
[03:18] <Seveas> it's the 4th or 5th already
[03:18] <lafferpt> soundray, tks.. but if I want to had a paragraph to the email how do I do that?
[03:19] <mod^> err.. but is there a way to let people see only their processes with 'ps' command..? anyone?
[03:19] <elkbuntu> rofl
[03:19] <Toma-> haha
[03:19] <soundray> lafferpt: what do you mean by "had a paragraph"?
[03:19] <lafferpt> soundray, line feed, (enter)
[03:19] <defrysk> nalioth, thanks
[03:19] <Toma-> ok, before that rude flood, incase no-one saw it....   ive got a problem, when i boot, and go straight to x, i get reeeeally weird keyboard input. i hit ctl-alt-f1 then f7 to goto a console and back, then my keyboard works fine.... and ideas?
[03:20] <Enthusiast78> mod^, add the 'u' parameter and ' | grep user '
[03:20] <soundray> lafferpt: echo -e "Mail body \n New line \n\n Empty line" | mail -s Subject someone@somewhere"
[03:20] <lafferpt> soundray, it's like php, tks
[03:20] <soundray> lafferpt, see man echo for other escape codes.
[03:20] <mod^> err.. I mean can I restrict users to see the processes by other users?
[03:21] <lafferpt> soundray, tks
[03:24] <ecen> hello, i finally was able to make ubuntu to run with lilo. now, i installed ubuntu in expert mode, and when i click on any administration menu, it asks me for the root password, then i type it and it does as it is loading but then it doesnt load. this happens with every single amdinistration menu, any ideas?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> ecen: try user password instead of root pw
[03:25] <Enthusiast78> ecen, It's not asking for the root password, but actually for your password.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> see if that makes a differnece
[03:25] <kameron> how can you get any use out of the "flashplayer-nonfree" package?
[03:26] <lafferpt> soundray, how do I see if the mail was sent?
[03:26] <ecen> i know it will not make any diference because i assigned the same password to both accounts
[03:26] <soundray> lafferpt: you get a reply from the addressee ;)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ecen: that may be it than its not sure what one your using
[03:26] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Which using are you running Gnome with?
[03:27] <lafferpt> soundray, where? :S
[03:27] <Enthusiast78> ecen, (user) not using
[03:27] <lafferpt> soundray,  i'm new to this :(
[03:27] <ecen> the user i created, not root
[03:27] <soundray> lafferpt: seriously, mail doesn't create a Sent folder. If you use mutt instead of mail, it keeps a record in its default configuration.
[03:28] <soundray> lafferpt: the From: address depends on your configuration.
[03:28] <lafferpt> soundray, how do I configure that?
[03:28] <Enthusiast78> ecen, Then that's the password you need.