[10:35] <nicholas> need i install firefox 1.5 to solve it ?
[10:35] <p0windah> Morg: yes, the freenx stuff is workable
[10:36] <topyli> bliss: paste your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the pastebin, and let's have a look
[10:36] <mesa> can u tell me how do i get the internet up n runing on ubuntu im using windows coz my internet is not running on ubuntu
[10:36] <Morg> p0windah: I'm only seeing the server. Is there free client?
[10:36] <bliss> topyli how do I put the syntax<EMAIL_ADDRESS>into putty
[10:36] <geneo93> Psykus:  i'm using short cut there so it may be in different dir then
[10:36] <Psykus> oh
[10:36] <Psykus> hrm
[10:36] <mesa> i am downloading a .bin can i install that?
[10:36] <p0windah> Morg: there is, yeah. check seveas repository
[10:36] <topyli> bliss: putty will ask for your username if you don't provide it in the first place
[10:36] <geneo93> Psykus:  this aint ubuntu
[10:37] <bliss> topyli whats the url for pastebin I have forgotten
[10:37] <Seveas> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:37] <Psykus> what do you mean?
[10:37] <pansonic> i have just installed fluxbox... how do i disable the other desktop manager
[10:37] <topyli> bliss:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , it's in the channel topic :)
[10:37] <geneo93> i'm looking at ubuntu drive through another linux
[10:38] <Psykus> oh
[10:38] <topyli> bliss: i'm going for smokes, will be back
[10:38] <eli> hey everyone, any xgl compiz users in here?
[10:38] <TrickyPhillips> I'm ashamed to ask such a ridiculous question, but how can I partition my main hard drive? I'm not supposed to partition a mounted hard drive, and I can't unmount the hard drive which Ubuntu is running on. Is partitioning from a Live CD my only option?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> TrickyPhillips: If it's your root partition, you need a LiveCD, yes.
[10:39] <p0windah> TrickyPhillips: dont be ashamed, at least you didnt spell "ridiculous" as "REDiculous"; like so many people do these days
[10:39] <xerophyte> any  what is the different between cyrus-sasl and courier-authlib??
[10:39] <TrickyPhillips> Haha.
[10:39] <TrickyPhillips> All right, thank you Tomcat_.
[10:40] <eli> no xgl users... bummer
[10:40] <Psykus> so, anyone else know how I can disable cups? it's freaking out and crashing gnome
[10:40] <bubba> nuke-u-lar
[10:40] <Mabus06> nickroberts.zapto.org
[10:40] <Mabus06> Someone go there and tell me what they get please.
[10:40] <bliss> topyli I will pate it you can look
[10:40] <mesa> hello i have a big problem here
[10:40] <topyli> bliss: ok
[10:41] <mesa> will someone plz help me
[10:41] <eli> Mabus06 : nothing pops up for me on the link
[10:41] <Psykus> mesa, just ask
[10:41] <elkbuntu> Mabus06, yeah, i'm with eli on this... not working
[10:41] <[aJ] > What about using alien for MySQL 5? anyone done it?
[10:42] <Mabus06> Thanks.
[10:42] <elkbuntu> Mabus06, i take it this is a home webserver you were trying?
[10:42] <bubba> around here its only rude to ask, if your asking if its ok to ask.
[10:42] <mesa> how do i use the internet on ubuntu?
[10:42] <Mabus06> elkbuntu, yeah, just a stupid sample index.html file though
[10:43] <bubba> LOL!
[10:43] <Al-Daja> how can i change a text file that's only for read to normal file that i change
[10:43] <Mabus06> elkbuntu, localhost works for me
[10:43] <elkbuntu> bubba, or if you ask asl, or certain physical properties of an individual
[10:43] <mesa> hello?
[10:43] <Morg> mesa: Are you using Ubuntu right now?
[10:43] <elkbuntu> mabus well it's probably not your firewall.. have you got no-ip updater installed?
[10:44] <Mabus06> elkbuntu, my router has a ddns thing built into it
[10:44] <elkbuntu> err, that was to Mabus06
[10:44] <elkbuntu> err... and it tells no-ip on a regular basis, and is compatible with them?
[10:45] <Mabus06> It was before, at least. I used to use that same hostname for freeciv servers all the time.
[10:45] <elkbuntu> Mabus06, go log into no-ip and tell me if the ip address matches the address you're at
[10:45] <geneo93> Psykus:  ok looking farther i found cupsys
[10:45] <Mabus06> But I have reset my router since then, so maybe ther was something else.
[10:45] <bubba> mesa, do you want to surf the internet using a web browser? or are you having a specific problem you could illuminate us with ?\
[10:45] <elkbuntu> Mabus06, you can get the no-ip updater through repos, and it runs automatically. no harm having updater redundancy
[10:46] <mesa> i want to browse the internet but i cannot get it to connect from linux its working on ubuntu
[10:46] <mesa> not ubuntu windows sorry
[10:46] <[aJ] > Is it ok to use debian backports w/ ubuntu
[10:46] <Morg> mesa: Are you using Ubuntu right now?
[10:47] <Morg> mesa: Or are you in Windows or another operating system?
[10:47] <bubba> mesa, you may need to be patient here... there are probably going to be a lot of questions...
[10:47] <bubba> how do you connect to the internets ? ethernet ? modem ? ...
[10:47] <mesa> i have a adsl router and a lan card
[10:48] <mesa> i am using windows right now
[10:48] <mesa> and plz ask all u need
[10:48] <bubba> mesa, ok, it sounds like your using an ethernet controller to conenct  the internets (via adsl router).
[10:48] <mesa> yes
[10:48] <nathanj> anyone know a prog that will disable 1 rss feed on ya desktop in just text>
[10:48] <Mabus07> elkbuntu, could it be a port forwarding thing?
[10:48] <Morg> mesa: Windows XP?
[10:48] <Psykus> geneo93: found cupsys in that file you mean?
[10:48] <bliss> toypli ok its in the paste bin
[10:48] <mesa> yes windows xp
[10:48] <bubba> you will want to make sure your cables are all connected right, if it works with windows, its right...
[10:48] <Morg> Go to Control Panel
[10:49] <elkbuntu> Mabus07, lets take this to private convo
[10:49] <geneo93> Psykus:  no in etc
[10:49] <topyli> bliss: please provide a direct URL
[10:49] <Morg> mesa: Control Panel > Network Connections
[10:49] <Psykus> ah ok, one sec
[10:49] <mesa> k
[10:49] <Morg> mesa: Right click on your LAN connection, click Properties
[10:49] <Morg> mesa: You should see a list of protocols. Select TCP/IP and click Properties
[10:49] <mesa> next
[10:50] <Psykus> geneo93, found cups folder, what do I need to open in there?
[10:50] <wewrrss> is there a way to NOT use the sudo in ubuntu ??
[10:50] <topyli> bliss: never mind, i found it
[10:50] <mesa> next
[10:50] <geneo93> cups or cupsys
[10:51] <bubba> wewrrss, yes.
[10:51] <Psykus> /etc/cups/
[10:51] <mesa> bubba?
[10:51] <guillem101> I'have some computers with dynamic ip at a local network... is there any simmilar to "dyndns" but for local networks?
[10:51] <wewrrss> how ?
[10:51] <Morg> mesa: Then, is it set up automatically or are there numbers in there?
[10:51] <geneo93> hmm see i have no cups but this is ubuntu
[10:51] <geneo93> but dapperdrake
[10:51] <mesa> everything is automatic
[10:51] <bubba> wewrrss, create a root accout by changing root passwd (sudo passwd), and login as root.
[10:52] <Jivenix> !openmosix
[10:52] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[10:52] <virogenesis> root = bad
[10:52] <Morg> mesa: OK, Ubuntu should connect to the Internet automatically, then.
[10:52] <wewrrss> default root password in ubuntu is ??
[10:52] <geneo93> sudo passwd root
[10:52] <Jivenix> your own password
[10:52] <bubba> virogenesis, root==god, so you say root==bad==god   :(
[10:52] <Morg> wewrrss: There is no root password by default
[10:52] <mesa> i shud tell u a frnd once gave me some valuse to enter when i had mandarke and it worked i created a new connection and entered those valus in the designated feilds and i t was running
[10:53] <virogenesis> god is bad bubba
[10:53] <Chousuke> bubba: logging in as root is bad on ubuntu
[10:53] <Chousuke> bubba: you should use sudo
[10:53] <bubba> geneo93, you dont need to specify root with sudo.
[10:53] <Chousuke> for longer sessions, by all means use sudo -i
[10:53] <geneo93> you guys are chickens
[10:53] <topyli> bliss: your sshd_config looks just fine. does /var/log/auth.log contain errors from your putty login attempts?
[10:53] <mesa> it shud but it is not
[10:54] <Morg> mesa: Well, we can't debug if you're still in Windows.
[10:54] <bubba> Chousuke, oh, how so ? hows is doing something as root in ubuntu different than doing something as root in slackware?
[10:54] <wewrrss> I KNOW IT IS BAD, to use root, sudo is better, that`s nt the point
[10:54] <mesa> and how do i install a rpm package and kde on ubuntu?
[10:54] <topyli> bliss: of course, your port 22 is open too?
[10:54] <Chousuke> bubba: not really. sudo is just preferred.
[10:54] <Seveas> mesa, rpm: avoid it, kde: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <Ng> !root
[10:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:54] <bubba> Chousuke, oh, how so ? hows is doing something as root in ubuntu different than doing something as root in slackware?
[10:54] <mesa> but if i use ubuntu we cant debug atall
[10:54] <Ng> read that
[10:54] <virogenesis> mesa you use alien to convert the package over from rpm to deb
[10:54] <geneo93> its just to protect newbies from likking their system
[10:55] <Chousuke> bubba: it guarantees you don't forget yourself logged in as root
[10:55] <kos> bye ubuntu
[10:55] <mesa> what is deb?
[10:55] <kos> see you in a years time
[10:55] <mesa> sory im new to computing
[10:55] <guillem101> mesa, deb is simmilar to rpm
[10:55] <Seveas> mesa, deb is the native package format for debian and ubuntu
[10:55] <Seveas> it's quite superior to rpm
[10:55] <mesa> and wot du i du frm there?
[10:55] <Chousuke> bubba: it also means that you don't have an easily guessable admin username
[10:55] <bubba> Chousuke, thanks, i have a problem with that... ive run with scissors for days....
[10:55] <guillem101> mesa, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[10:55] <Chousuke> bubba: and it's way easier to use sudo than to login as root all the time .)
[10:55] <Seveas> Chousuke, well...
[10:56] <Seveas> Chousuke, default username is ubuntu and quite a few newbies don't change that
[10:56] <bubba> Chousuke, not all the time, or he wouldnt have asked.
[10:56] <Chousuke> Seveas: erh. ok. don't use that smiley.
[10:57] <Chousuke> bubba: sudo gives you all that root login does and more
[10:57] <geneo93> Psykus:  whats cups have in it
[10:57] <Mabus06> Chousuke, more?
[10:57] <Chousuke> you don't really benefit from having root login over sudo
[10:57] <Unicorn_Giggles> Seveas, how did you do that smiley?
[10:57] <bubba> Chousuke, cool, what can sudo do that root account cant do ?
[10:57] <Seveas> Mabus06, sudo can do more fine-grained authenticatin
[10:57] <Chousuke> Mabus06: more fine-grained control of root rights.
[10:57] <Seveas> Unicorn_Giggles, like this:
[10:57] <guillem101> Seveas, how did you do that smiley? (mee too!)
[10:57] <Mabus06> fine-grained?
[10:57] <elkbuntu> bubba, prevent you from accidentally making silly mistakes
[10:57] <Seveas> Mabus06, man sudoers
[10:57] <geneo93> Chousuke:  sure you do if you have lots of admin to do
[10:58] <learner_learner> anyone using Enlightenment (E17)?
[10:58] <Chousuke> bubba: you can for example give a user only rights to do something specific as root
[10:58] <mesa> how do i install a tar.bz2 file?
[10:58] <Unicorn_Giggles> lol, whats the character code for it?
[10:58] <bubba> elkbuntu, so, if i do sudo rm -rf / it wont wipe my system out ?
[10:58] <Seveas> geneo93, indeed, on a 'normal' system it's kind of a moot point
[10:58] <Ng> grr
[10:58] <Psykus> geneo93, http://www.pastebin.com/569971
[10:58] <guillem101> Seveas, I guess it is a japanese character ....
[10:58] <topyli> mesa: you don't. it's just a package like a zip file on windows
[10:58] <Seveas> mesa, probably by compiling - as newbie you should try and avoid that fir the first few weeks and familirize yourself with the system
[10:58] <Chousuke> bubba: I think you can prevent that by configuring sudo
[10:58] <bubba> how does sudo prevent an idiot from being an idiot ?
[10:58] <elkbuntu> bubba, i would presume not, but im not going to test the theory
[10:58] <learner_learner> I installed E17 from cvs, but when I try to log into , it's showing Xsession: unable to launch. "/opt/e17/bin/enlightenment" not found
[10:58] <Mabus06> Mesa, that is the equivalent of a zip file... you have to extract it
[10:59] <Seveas> bubba, nothing can prevent that..
[10:59] <Chousuke> bubba: it'd be a bit stupid though .P
[10:59] <guillem101> very smart
[10:59] <geneo93> Seveas:  things are constantly changing here so i leave root terminal open 90% of the time
[10:59] <mesa> i extract it and then?
[10:59] <Mabus06> Make a program idiot proof; god will design a better idiot.
[10:59] <Seveas> geneo93, now THAT is a bad thing
[10:59] <mesa> actually i am told to install alien and it is in .tar.bz2 format
[10:59] <Chousuke> sudo is just so much more convenient to me ;P
[10:59] <geneo93> hey i'm all alone
[10:59] <topyli> Mabus06: yes :)
[10:59] <Mabus06> mesa, why did you download alien?
[10:59] <preglow> is there a pre-compiled version of the low-latency 2.6 kernel for breezy somewhere around? i've tried compiling it myself, but i just can't make it boot completely
[11:00] <Mabus06> Just 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[11:00] <Chousuke> su -c "whatever" is not so easy as sudo whatever
[11:00] <bubba> Chousuke, thats cool.
[11:00] <virogenesis> mesa you trying to install anything?
[11:00] <geneo93> Chousuke:  after you type suso 400-500 times it gets sickening
[11:00] <Mabus06> No need to search for and download files, extract them, and install them. Forget all you know about windows.
[11:00] <Chousuke> geneo93: you do sudo -i then
[11:00] <elkbuntu> geneo93, and makes you typo it
[11:00] <mesa> coz i was told to use alien to install a deb from a rpm
[11:00] <Mabus06> mesa, I was the one who told you to get alien
[11:00] <Chousuke> geneo93: that does the same as "su"
[11:00] <Chousuke> geneo93: only with sudo
[11:00] <mesa> ok
[11:01] <mesa> sorry
[11:01] <Mabus06> but type 'sudo apt-get install alien', that will install alien.. no need to download the source code or whatever you downloaded
[11:01] <virogenesis> well you can you use apt-get install alien then
[11:01] <geneo93> Chousuke:  i like power
[11:01] <Chousuke> it even gives you the root# prompt
[11:01] <virogenesis> Mabus06,  you beat me to it
[11:01] <Chousuke> what else do you want=
[11:01] <geneo93> and my owrd is final
[11:01] <Chousuke> geneo93: it gives you all the power :P
[11:01] <geneo93> yes
[11:01] <mesa> actually thats the prob i dont have internet on ubuntu im using windws and will install onl linux after reebooting
[11:02] <Mabus06> Is there a way to keep the regular sudo setup going through expert installl? It makes me set a root password.
[11:02] <bliss> topyli port open and forwareded but in the file I pasted there is a # neext to the first line which indicates what port number ie 22
[11:02] <mesa> hello? mabus06?
[11:02] <Mabus06> yes?
[11:03] <Mabus06> You don't have the internet? How did you get alien, then?
[11:03] <virogenesis> hes on windows now
[11:03] <sinaduel> Is there a PS2 Emulator for linux?
[11:03] <p0windah> install CD per-chance ?
[11:03] <Mabus06> What about the internet is not working?
[11:03] <topyli> bliss: that's wrong, but the file you pasted on the pastebin has the line uncommented
[11:03] <Mabus06> sinaduel, yes
[11:03] <geneo93> expert install
[11:03] <sinaduel> what's it called?
[11:03] <Mabus06> sinaduel, but no ps2 emulators, windows or linux will play commercial games
[11:03] <mesa> i cant get the web to work on ubuntu
[11:03] <Mabus06> mesa, how do you normally connect to the internet?
[11:04] <virogenesis> what nic you got mesa ?
[11:04] <sinaduel> Thanks
[11:04] <mesa> i have to use windows
[11:04] <bubba> mesa, didnt you get that ethernet card up and working?
[11:04] <Mabus06> mesa, ethernet? wireless?
[11:04] <mesa> yes i did
[11:04] <Mabus06> 56k modem?
[11:04] <mesa> ethernet card
[11:04] <Mabus06> To a router, I assume?
[11:04] <eli> anyone attempted to try and make compiz work in dapper here?
[11:05] <virogenesis> yes eli i had it working
[11:05] <Mabus06> Anyway, just go to system > administration > networking
[11:05] <mesa> how do i create an internet conn. on ubu  like on windows
[11:05] <iBalo> eli, that's kind of a runing gag
[11:05] <concept10> eli, i have it works
[11:05] <eli> is it worth it check out?
[11:05] <topyli> bliss: how about, you just try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server" and make sure it's enabled right
[11:05] <geneo93> eli try #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <Mantice> Hey guys
[11:05] <Mantice> Every thing is pefect now
[11:05] <mesa> im on windows now
[11:05] <eli> geneo93 , how do i get to that channel on xchat? im a bit of noob with xchat
[11:05] <concept10> eli, look on the ubuntu wiki for xgl
[11:06] <Mantice> Only I got confused about my username and i dont know if its in caps or not
[11:06] <topyli> Mantice: backup time! :)
[11:06] <bubba> bliss, do you have to login to your isp or something?? or is it just a tcp/ip ethernet connection ?
[11:06] <eli> i tried that concept10 , with no luck
[11:06] <Mantice> so what the root password lol
[11:06] <geneo93> duh /join #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <eli> having a problem with compiz.real
[11:06] <topyli> Mantice: there is none
[11:06] <concept10> eli->/join #ubuntu+1
[11:06] <iBalo> !root
[11:06] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:06] <Mantice> so i just type in root
[11:06] <topyli> Mantice: no, root logins are simply disabled. you use sudo
[11:07] <bubba> Mantice, did you install amd64 ubuntu ?
[11:07] <Mantice> yeah
[11:07] <Mantice> looks good
[11:07] <eli> concept10, geneo93, iBalo, virogenises thanks for the help
[11:07] <Mantice> only i cant login because i dont know what my user name is
[11:07] <bubba> im jealous :(
[11:07] <Mantice> and i think one of the things is caps
[11:07] <InnerFIRE> how do i use hotway?
[11:07] <Mantice> and i dont know if i left caps lock on for my password
[11:07] <bliss> topyli/bubba I have ehternet through a router see paste bin for netstat -tln notice two heading one for domain and one for local host
[11:07] <virogenesis> np eli
[11:07] <bimberi> Mantice: you can't log into root.  You can boot into recovery mode (on the boot menu) and check what the username is there with 'ls /home'
[11:08] <virogenesis> eli,  there is a howto thread on the thread its a sticky
[11:08] <Mantice> ok thx brb
[11:08] <[aJ] > How do you install mysql 4.1 I've only got the option to install 4.0
[11:09] <topyli> bliss: that looks good too
[11:09] <concept10> Does any one here use the Deskbar gnome-applet?  I wondering if it keeps accessing the disk or not
[11:09] <eli> virogenesis , i tried both things, but still having a problem. compiz does not want to show up in gconf-editor and compiz does not want start
[11:09] <topyli> bliss: are you sure your isp isn't blocking the port or something?
[11:10] <topyli> bliss: let me try and ping you to see if your host is reachable
[11:10] <bimberi> [aJ] : there's a package called mysql-server-4.1 (in the universe repository)
[11:10] <topyli> bliss: don't worry, i can't log in :)
[11:11] <fm> hi
[11:11] <bliss> topyli why two headings one for local host and one for domain
[11:11] <gundu> hi
[11:11] <bubba> well... im outie... 'nite all...
[11:11] <geneo93> nite
[11:11] <Al-Daja> how can i change a text file that's only for read to normal file that i change
[11:11] <topyli> bliss: hm. do you have a local network there?
[11:11] <[aJ] > bimberi: what's the universe repository?
[11:11] <[aJ] > !universe
[11:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:11] <gundu> installed with apt-get kde but how can I replace now gnome with kde (without removing gnome)
[11:11] <spawny> Hello all. Can someone help me with this: sometimes (when I use firefox, amarok, anjunta or anything basically) my screen will go white everywhere except for the toolbars; when i move my mouse around some part will reappear (cliacable parts) but most of the screen stays white so i have to log-out and then back in and it works fine again
[11:11] <fm> in the mini-commander from gnome, what is the name of the variable holding the content of the command field ?
[11:11] <bimberi> [aJ] : self service :)
[11:12] <[aJ] > bimberi: :) I've been around the block a few times
[11:12] <bimberi> [aJ] : :)
[11:12] <bimberi> Al-Daja: chmod +w <file>
[11:12] <bliss> topyli there is a range of IPs but they are not set/allocated only one ip
[11:12] <geneo93> gundu:  you need to log out then choose system
[11:13] <fm> I mean I have a "pattern" and "command" field, what to put in the command field? like gnome-open $command ..
[11:13] <gundu> and how can I choose that kde should be started on startup ?
[11:13] <spawny> Hello all. Can someone help me with this: sometimes (when I use firefox, amarok, anjunta or anything basically) my screen will go white everywhere except for the toolbars; when i move my mouse around some part will reappear (cliacable parts) but most of the screen stays white so i have to log-out and then back in and it works fine again
[11:13] <topyli> bliss: sounds a bit complex for me :(
[11:13] <bliss> topyli --did the ping work
[11:13] <stoned> everytime I try to play a .wmv file mplayer/other players crash.  I have w32codecs installed
[11:13] <topyli> bliss: i don't have your network address yet :)
[11:14] <bimberi> gundu: you can choose kde from session menu when you log in, or do you mean start kdm at startup instead of gdm?
[11:14] <bliss> topyli do a trace to 4096.net
[11:14] <topyli> ok
[11:14] <fm> What is the synthax of a command in the gnome command line panel applet please ??
[11:15] <fm> can't find no doc
[11:15] <gundu> yes
[11:15] <geneo93> if he installed kde only it wont take out gdm
[11:15] <gundu> bimberi, yes
[11:15] <bimberi> gundu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:15] <InnerFIRE> does anyone use gotmail or hotway?
[11:15] <geneo93> no
[11:15] <gundu> ok
[11:15] <InnerFIRE> hotsmtp?
[11:16] <Psykus> argg...cups is going on a gnome crashing rampage again
[11:16] <geneo93> i doubt if he has kdm
[11:16] <Psykus> if I kill the GUI fast enough, I can prevent it from freezing the whole system, but it's starting to get annoying
[11:16] <nelposto> hey people .. i've a question - I just today reinstalled ubuntu, and i did so at a place where i needed a proxy .. but I'm not normally using that proxy, and now that i'm home again, unfortunately the http proxy has been set somewhere so that every time i start up have to disable it ... any ideas where i'll find it?
[11:17] <bimberi> geneo93: we'll know soon enough :)
[11:17] <geneo93> Psykus:  kill the other box
[11:17] <Psykus> or just unshare the printer?
[11:17] <geneo93> bimberi:  i made that mistake already
[11:18] <bimberi> nelposto: System -> Preferences -> Network Proxy ?
[11:18] <geneo93> but i think a root is in order
[11:18] <evils> hi all
[11:18] <topyli> bliss: i can ping you but your ssh server is not responding. strange
[11:18] <nelposto> bimberi: i hadn't checked it .. but it all seems normal
[11:19] <bliss> topyli ok that is strange
[11:19] <nelposto> bimberi .. i have already turned off http_proxy through the terminal on this boot
[11:20] <bliss> topyli can you do a trace route
[11:20] <geneo93> wish i could get 18 yrold proxy to replace wife
[11:20] <bimberi> nelposto: in /etc/profile ?
[11:20] <bliss> topyli does it time out?
[11:21] <nelposto> bimberi .. nope .. is there somewhere i can put " http_proxy="" " and have it run that every time i boot?
[11:21] <bliss> topyli  did yousay that my ssd_config looked ok
[11:22] <topyli> bliss: a trace works ok, but the server doesn't respond (like, ask for a password or anything)
[11:22] <topyli> bliss: maybe it's not running :)
[11:23] <bliss> topyli how to check
[11:23] <Badm4n> actually i allready masquerade my ip rule ( using iptables )... is that still need to use ipmassq ?
[11:23] <InnerFIRE> can anyone answer my question about hotway?
[11:23] <topyli> bliss: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:24] <Psykus> ok, the printer is unshared now, shouldn't be causing any problems with gnome now, in theory
[11:25] <bliss> topyli ok its been restarted
[11:25] <InnerFIRE> useless
[11:25] <geneo93> Psykus:  may need reboot
[11:25] <Psykus> geneo93, and as soon as I say that, it goes kaput
[11:25] <bimberi> nelposto: i ran 'sudo grep -r http_proxy /etc/*' and got a few hits, you could check through those
[11:26] <Psykus> the host box for the printer?
[11:26] <geneo93> no your
[11:26] <geneo93> s
[11:26] <topyli> bliss: again, ping works but ssh doesn't
[11:26] <bliss> topyli you said before ---bliss: how about, you just try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server" and make sure it's enabled righ
[11:26] <topyli> bliss: yes
[11:27] <bliss> topyli but you did look at sshd_config thats ok --yes
[11:27] <stoned> whoever made the w32/mplayer packages is an idiot.  j/k.  mplayer is configured to look for binary w32codecs in /usr/lib/win32 while the w32codecs package installs the codecs/dlls in /usr/lib/codecs
[11:27] <topyli> bliss: seems good to me, similar to mine
[11:27] <bimberi> nelposto: wrt your question, you could try adding "export http_proxy=" to bash.bashrc (i'm not sure it'll work though)
[11:27] <Psykus> ugh, whoever handles making the bootable CDs for ubuntu should really adopt the whole "Press any key to boot from CD" once a CD is booted, I keep leaving my ubuntu CD in the drive, and it will boot off of that instead of going to my bootloader
[11:28] <bliss> topyliand we know fro netstat -tld thats going out and in ok --yes
[11:28] <topyli> yes
[11:28] <geneo93> Psykus:  suse works that way
[11:28] <mesa> im back and my prob still aint over
[11:28] <bliss> topyli ---port 22 is open --yes
[11:28] <topyli> bliss: i'm running out of ideas :(
[11:28] <nelposto> bimberi: ok thanks for those suggestings .. i'll have a look now
[11:28] <mesa> Mabus06?
[11:29] <Mabus06> yes
[11:29] <bimberi> nelposto: np :)
[11:29] <mesa> nothing
[11:29] <Ng> stoned: well there's no ubuntu w32codecs package, so your point is null ;)
[11:29] <mesa> imean no sloution
[11:29] <Mabus06> I don't know what to tell you, sorry.
[11:29] <mesa> k
[11:30] <bliss> topyli ---yes well weve just about done a full circle thanks for your help just a litle thing can you do a nmap on my server
[11:30] <stoned> my point remains, just because it isn't officla ubuntu doesn't mitigate the fact that the maintainer of the packatge is an idiot. and no this isn't an attack on ubuntu or anything, my point remains valid, just that it isn't none of ya'lls fault
[11:30] <mesa> how abt tellin me how to install kde on ubuntu coz i have the .tar.bz2 files just dunno how to install them
[11:30] <stoned> ding dong wa wa wee wa
[11:30] <virogenesis> atleast there won't be a need for w32 codecs in dapper
[11:30] <topyli> bliss: sure. need to install it first :)
[11:31] <Mabus06> mesa, I'd ask around for help with your internet problem
[11:31] <bliss> topyli --thanks a bunch
[11:31] <geneo93> mesa:  you dont want to do that
[11:31] <stoned> mesa, www.kubuntu.org tells you how to install kde
[11:31] <Mabus06> A little more signifigant than installing KDE over GNOME
[11:31] <Oli> Hi, trying to install the newst .deb from skype but it needs libqt3c102-mt, I have installed the according package: libqt3-mt
[11:31] <mdeboer>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY asm56k
[11:31] <Oli> but dosen work
[11:31] <mesa> i will but can u tell me abt that kde thingy
[11:31] <Oli> mdeboer: graz ;)
[11:31] <mdeboer> :-/
[11:32] <geneo93> mesa:  best get iso of kubuntu
[11:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell Oli about skype
[11:32] <mesa> lookin
[11:32] <virogenesis> mesa,  first learn to crawl before you run get your internet sorted out first what you're doing is unneeded and you'll run into problems and break shit
[11:32] <bimberi> Oli: there's a problem with the skype .deb, use the one in Seveas' repositories
[11:32] <Badm4n> actually i allready masquerade my ip rule ( using iptables )... is that still need to use ipmassq ?
[11:33] <Oli> bimberi: oki thanlks
[11:33] <frans-th> hi anyone there
[11:34] <mesa> yes sir sorry
[11:34] <geneo93> nope just us chickens
[11:34] <bimberi> Oli: np :)
[11:34] <frans-th> anyone have success seting modem in ubuntu? i did it, but how to dial it ? i dont like wvdial
[11:34] <topyli> bliss: this gets more exiting. nmap thinks your host is down, but obviously it's not
[11:35] <geneo93> frans-th:  pon
[11:35] <virogenesis> mesa,  if you're interested in kde more than gnome you could always install kubuntu its ubuntu but with kde and kde packages instead of gnome
[11:35] <mesa> but wot du i do abt my web problem then?
[11:35] <frans-th> geneo93, pon? what is that
[11:35] <geneo93> thats the dial command
[11:35] <bliss> topyli --have you got the correct ip
[11:35] <tristan> mesa, or you can have both gnome and kde
[11:35] <frans-th> geneo93, is it GUI?
[11:35] <mesa> but i have kubuntu 5.04 and ubunyu 5.10 thats newer
[11:35] <geneo93> no
[11:36] <virogenesis> mesa,  what network interface card do you have?
[11:36] <frans-th> geneo93, is there a utility like kppp?
[11:36] <mesa> how can i have both kde and gnome?
[11:36] <geneo93> gppp used to be
[11:36] <topyli> bliss: join #topyli
[11:36] <frans-th> geneo93, where i can get it? no in archive
[11:36] <mesa> im new plz ask in simpler terms
[11:36] <tristan> mesa, if you're now running under gnome just sudo apt-get install kde
[11:36] <bimberi> frans-th: System -> Administration -> Networking
[11:36] <tristan> mesa, it will install kde and you can choose when launching the session if you want to use gnome or KDE
[11:37] <bliss> topyli ok
[11:37] <frans-th> bimberi, and?
[11:37] <mesa> how?
[11:37] <virogenesis> mesa the best way to install is from the repos which you'll need your internet for
[11:37] <frans-th> bimberi, i got that my modem detected, but how to make it dial?
[11:37] <mesa> wot r repos?
[11:37] <virogenesis> otherwise you have a good chance at breaking your system
[11:37] <mesa> i dont mind that
[11:37] <geneo93> frans-th: activate
[11:38] <tristan> mesa, are you on LAN?
[11:38] <bimberi> frans-th: um, do you have a 'Modem Connection'?  if so click on properties and set it up
[11:38] <frans-th> ok
[11:38] <frans-th> thx\
[11:38] <mesa> i think so
[11:38] <frans-th> :P
[11:38] <mesa> but im on win xp
[11:38] <geneo93> whats that xp
[11:39] <b0rnDeep> has anyone tried using xgl on breezy?
[11:39] <virogenesis> repos = Repository.... its where ubuntu keeps a collection of software packages and updates
[11:39] <mesa> yes xp
[11:39] <geneo93> extra poop
[11:39] <mesa> oh right
[11:39] <tristan> mesa, you cannot install kde from ubuntu?
[11:39] <virogenesis> tristan, he can not access the internet from ubuntu
[11:39] <bintut> what packages do i need in order to learn how to make my own ubuntu .deb package?
[11:39] <stu> sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[11:39] <mesa> i read in a tutorial in tux mag how to install kde but it duz not appear on the left side of that synaptic manager thingy
[11:40] <stu> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <geneo93> stu:  wrong
[11:40] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <virogenesis> hes using a nic with that i believe to be a adsl ethernet modem
[11:40] <stu> sudo apt-get install xubuntu (for xfce)
[11:40] <virogenesis> GUYS
[11:40] <bintut> what packages do i need in order to learn how to make my own ubuntu .deb package?
[11:40] <tristan> I had trouble to access internet and network with ubuntu. I am on a LAN. I had to put the option irqpol in the menu.lst of GRUB. Do you think it would work for him/you, mesa and virogenesis ??
[11:41] <virogenesis> no pint telling him how to install kubuntu he can't acccess the net
[11:41] <geneo93> virogenesis:  yes but he needs to use outside ip for domain
[11:41] <mesa> i have the kubuntu 5.04 cd
[11:41] <frans-th> all, anyone success make a Nokia Phone become a modem, I want to make it become fax machine
[11:41] <frans-th> can help?
[11:42] <virogenesis> exactly so rather than telling him how to install kde get his net up and running its more logical
[11:42] <stu> frans: have a look at the nokia utils in the repo
[11:42] <app_> Has  aynone tried firestarter on Breezy live? Why can it not recognize directions, all events are directions "unknown"?
[11:42] <frans-th> stu, i am searching on it, but no nokia word in search
[11:42] <tristan> virogenesis, do you thin the irqpol option can help?
[11:42] <mesa> can u hurry up
[11:42] <geneo93> virogenesis:  i was working with someone else
[11:42] <mesa> i gotra go fast
[11:42] <stu> frans: have you got all the repo's enabled?
[11:42] <tristan> irqpoll sorry
[11:43] <mesa> my brother is yellin at me
[11:43] <virogenesis> i ain't sure tristan
[11:43] <mesa> uh oh im dead
[11:43] <MisterN> hi
[11:43] <tristan> virogenesis, maybe he can give a try
[11:43] <virogenesis> can you explain it to him maybe as i've never had that problem
[11:44] <tristan> mesa, we will try to solve your problem of network connection under ubntu
[11:44] <stu> Frans: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/55310-using-nokia-modem-under-linux.html
[11:44] <virogenesis> maybe point him to a guide or something for him to print out
[11:44] <tristan> mesa, join #mesa
[11:45] <geneo93> tristan:  maybe his brother already killed him
[11:45] <tristan> geneo93, might be true
[11:45] <tristan> virogenesis, well it's not too difficult just modify menu.lst and add irqpoll in the boot options
[11:45] <frans-th> stu, thx
[11:46] <virogenesis> tristian he knows nothing about linux :)
[11:46] <stu> frans: that might not be the ideal guide but if you google it, theres a few other guides and faqs in forums
[11:46] <geneo93> dhcp sucks anyhow
[11:46] <Mantice> Hello
[11:46] <Mantice> Its Me
[11:46] <Mantice> and im in ubuntu :P
[11:46] <tristan> virogenesis, it will be OK. I don't know much too. I only know that I had the same trouble and so maybe I can solve his
[11:46] <geneo93> Mantice:  nice
[11:47] <virogenesis> good stuff :)
[11:47] <Mantice> Wheres what's his name gone
[11:47] <Mantice> Thanks
[11:47] <Mantice> I wish X-Chat was more IRC like
[11:47] <Mantice> mIRC like
[11:47] <geneo93> Mantice:  you could use gaim
[11:48] <apt514> in synaptic mark upgrades are the ones with ubuntu icons?
[11:48] <Mantice> Ok thx Geno93
[11:48] <Oli> bimberi: aye skype works perfect ;)
[11:48] <virogenesis> Mantice,  what do you miss about mirc?
[11:48] <Mantice> The layout was good
[11:48] <tristan> seems mesa is dead
[11:48] <geneo93> tristan:  i think so
[11:48] <Mantice> So wheres the update button
[11:49] <Mantice> I wana make sure my ubuntu is up to date
[11:49] <apt514> Mantice kiss - keep it simple santice
[11:49] <jsestri2> anyone here got any ideas for lack of mp3 playing under dapper? (besides not having the stuff on restricted formats installed)
[11:49] <apt514> Mantice - real easy
[11:49] <tristan> then I'll go to eat and see if he resurrects when I come back
[11:49] <geneo93> Mantice:  open synaptic
[11:49] <Oli> mhh i have set JAVA_HOME in my /etc/profile but only root got the env variable, after reboot, for a user I have always to source it, what is wrong?
[11:49] <apt514> Mantice are you using win?
[11:49] <Psykus`laptop> hey, I guess I got disconnected, what's the last message that I sent?
[11:49] <Mantice> Nope
[11:49] <Mantice> Im in Ubuntu :P
[11:49] <apt514> 5.10?
[11:50] <Mantice> I dont know im a n00b :P
[11:50] <geneo93> you need to add repositories Mantice
[11:50] <Mantice> Dont worry I found update button
[11:50] <Mantice> System --> admin ---> Update Manager
[11:50] <geneo93> but you need in settings to add a few things
[11:51] <Mantice> ?
[11:51] <Psykus`laptop> but, geneo93, cups is being cranky again, check this out: http://www.pastebin.com/570015
[11:51] <geneo93> yeah you need synaptic first
[11:51] <Mantice> Whats Synaptic
[11:51] <Psykus`laptop> this is after the computer hosting the printer has been rebooted, after unsharing the printer
[11:52] <apt514> Mantice - open system/admin/synpatic settings/repos/add checkmark security
[11:52] <apt514> Mantice it is the package.deb gui
[11:52] <bimberi> Oli: great! :)
[11:53] <geneo93> Psykus in that cups file did you see check and ending with =0
[11:53] <Mantice> ?
[11:53] <geneo93> about the fith line
[11:53] <Mantice> What type of package
[11:54] <Mwafrika> Help.... i wanna move from Hoary Hedgehog to Breezy..... anyone who have done this?
[11:54] <geneo93> Mantice:  it installer for all apps
[11:54] <Mantice> alien is 5th line
[11:54] <loz> yo wassup
[11:54] <Mantice> I figuared it looks good
[11:55] <geneo93> Mantice:  i'm talking to someone else
[11:55] <Psykus``> ugh, disconnected again >_<
[11:55] <loz> does anyone know how to use MUGEN?????????????
[11:55] <Mantice> Yeah
[11:55] <Mantice> I did
[11:55] <Mantice> Deb config?
[11:55] <stu> Mwafrika - its dirty but goto your /etc/apt/sources.list and edit out hoary and change references to breezy then do a "sudo apt-get update" > then "sudo apt-get distro-upgrade"<I think?
[11:55] <apt514> Mwafrika sure i installed 5.04 yesterday & 5.10 last night
[11:55] <Psykus``> so, I need to kill cups somehow
[11:55] <geneo93> Psykus did you get that last thing about the fith line in /etc/cups
[11:56] <Psykus``> no, I kept getting disconnected
[11:56] <gnomefreak> stu: yes thats right the only other thing is make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed
[11:56] <concept10> stu, Mwafrika - its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:56] <Mwafrika> apt514: I dont have the CD thats the problem its takes week to be shipped to Tanzania
[11:56] <Mantice> Geno93 What did you want me to update there?
[11:56] <geneo93> ok should be a line that has check ends with 0 change the 0 to 1
[11:56] <gnomefreak> <<<missed that :(
[11:57] <Psykus> this is in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf ?
[11:57] <concept10> Mwafrika, what kind of connection do you have?
[11:57] <Mwafrika> Concept10: where do i get a breezy source list file?
[11:57] <Mantice> Should I click Mark all updates?
[11:57] <concept10> !breezy
[11:57] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:57] <Mwafrika> Concept10: LAN... not very strong
[11:57] <geneo93> Mantice:  click on settings at the top and repositories then add security and updates
[11:57] <apt514> Mwafrika shipit.ubuntu just came yesterday
[11:57] <concept10> Mwafrika, youre not on dial up, right?
[11:58] <apt514> Mantice if yougot the speed
[11:58] <Mwafrika> concept10: Yes im not dialing up
[11:58] <Mantice> What components ?
[11:58] <concept10> !tell Mwafrika about breezy
[11:58] <apt514> ciao l8r
[11:59] <Mantice> How come CD Ubuntu Is allready there?
[11:59] <geneo93> Mantice: ???
[11:59] <Mwafrika> Concept10: Let me check it
[11:59] <geneo93> uncheck it Mantice
[11:59] <Mantice> Uncheck what?
[11:59] <geneo93> and check all the other ones
[11:59] <geneo93> the cd
[11:59] <Mantice> Remove the CD Ubuntu breay badger
[12:00] <geneo93> just uncheck it
[12:00] <Mantice> I added the Secure updates
[12:00] <Mantice> No unceck for me
[12:00] <geneo93> add all them
[12:00] <Alexi5> does anyone here use xfce instead of gnome on ubuntu
[12:00] <geneo93> oh so used to new stuff
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: i use both
[12:00] <Alexi5> ok
[12:01] <Alexi5> xfce seems much faster than gnome
[12:01] <Mantice> Gnomes different
[12:01] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: it is its alot lighter than gnome
[12:01] <Psykus> all depends on what kind of system you're running it on
[12:01] <geneo93> Mantice:  maybe easier to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:01] <gnomefreak> fluxbox is faster than both of them :)
[12:01] <Mantice> I added them all
[12:01] <Mantice> now what
[12:01] <Alexi5> i have a celeron 2.2GHZ with 768MB RAM
[12:01] <geneo93> reload
[12:01] <Mwafrika> Concept10: I think it need a CD to update as per instruction of the page you gave me
[12:02] <geneo93> Mantice:  reload
[12:02] <Mantice> Im downloading some package information
[12:02] <concept10> Mwafrika, you dont need a cd
[12:02] <geneo93> yes
[12:02] <Alexi5> should my system be ok for gnome
[12:02] <Mantice> brb put some music on even though i dont know how :P
[12:02] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: yes
[12:02] <Alexi5> ok
[12:02] <Mwafrika> concept10: let me read care full
[12:02] <geneo93> then hit mark all updates after that completes Mantice
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: you have more ram and bigger cpu than me i run both with no issues
[12:03] <Mantice> Gnome = mac ish :(
[12:03] <Mantice> but im geting use to it :P
[12:03] <Alexi5> ok
[12:03] <Mantice> I love hide desktop buttion :P
[12:03] <geneo93> Mantice:  you may want to kick around kde after
[12:03] <Mantice> I would
[12:03] <concept10> Mwafrika, basically all youre doing is changing where ubuntu gets its packages from hoary to breezy, then you do a update, it finds the packages and then you do apt-get dist-upgrade and it updates the entire system
[12:04] <Psykus> there should be somewhere that I can just tell the cups service not to start, right, geneo93 ?
[12:04] <Mantice> KDE is good :)
[12:04] <Alexi5> right now kde is off my list of desktops becuase it look so ugly compared to gnome
[12:04] <geneo93> Mantice:  wait till all is updated first
[12:04] <Mantice> They look same
[12:04] <Mantice> Whats a good mp3 player
[12:04] <Mantice> xxmms
[12:04] <gnomefreak> xmms is good yes
[12:04] <Mantice> Rhythmbox looks retaded lol
[12:04] <geneo93> Mantice:  you cant use anything right now
[12:04] <Psykus> Alexi5, you can always get different themes for both KDE and Gnome
[12:04] <Alexi5> ok
[12:05] <Alexi5> but gnome themes are easier to install
[12:05] <Psykus> yeah
[12:05] <Mwafrika> concept10: im kind of new to Linux and ubuntu.... now... how do i change repositories from Synaptic Package Manager?
[12:05] <Psykus> i like gnome as well
[12:05] <Mantice> How do I access other hard drives
[12:05] <concept10> Mwafrika, open a terminal window and follow me
[12:05] <Alexi5> let me switch back to gnome
[12:05] <geneo93> Mantice:  should be in media
[12:06] <Mwafrika> concept10: im on terminal window
[12:06] <hit> how
[12:06] <Mantice> ok
[12:06] <Mantice> I thought it was on mount
[12:06] <hit>  how to install dapper from hard disk ?
[12:06] <geneo93> no
[12:06] <Mantice> its not there :(
[12:07] <Mantice> Where are my hard drives kept
[12:07] <[aJ] > Where can I find the bzip2 library?
[12:07] <concept10> Mwafrika, ok type this : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sou<TAB>
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hit about install
[12:07] <geneo93> ok look at /etc/fstab mant
[12:07] <concept10> Mwafrika, <TAB> is the tab key, you need to get used to tab completion
[12:07] <geneo93> Mantice:  what os you have on that thing
[12:07] <Mwafrika> Ok
[12:08] <Mantice> Ubuntu
[12:08] <hit> ubotu: can you help me?
[12:08] <ubotu> hit: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:08] <Mwafrika> conept10: its has tabed to source.list file
[12:08] <gnomefreak> hit: read the pm ubotu sent you
[12:08] <geneo93> besides ubuntu
[12:08] <concept10> Mwafrika, I know, hit enter
[12:08] <Mantice> Micro$oft XPP
[12:09] <concept10> Mwafrika, do you see anything in there that says something about a CD?
[12:09] <Mantice> Its finished the downloading the Packages
[12:09] <hit> ubotu:  ok
[12:09] <ubotu> hit: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:09] <Mwafrika> concept10: Yes... its has opened a course.list on text editor
[12:09] <Mantice> Oooh New Updates Avialiabe :P
[12:09] <geneo93> ok take a look in /etc/fstab and see if d=hda1 is mounted
[12:09] <colm> hit, ubotu is a bot
[12:09] <concept10> Mwafrika, you want to open /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <jose> ola alguien de espaa?????? ke me avra privado
[12:09] <gnomefreak> !es
[12:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:09] <Mantice> I dont got a fstab
[12:09] <hit> colm:  ...
[12:09] <jose> ola alguien de espaa?????? ke me avra privado
[12:10] <concept10> Mwafrika, you meant sources.list right?
[12:10] <geneo93> Mantice:  its towards bottom
[12:10] <Mwafrika> concept10: after the command you gave me.... it finaly opened a sources.list file
[12:10] <geneo93> just a file Mantice
[12:10] <Psykus> geneo93, I killed the cupsd process, should it give me any trouble now?
[12:10] <^neotron^> server/irc/07
[12:10] <concept10> Mwafrika, okay, do you see anything about a CD in there?
[12:10] <Mantice> i typed in search fstab
[12:10] <^neotron^> server/irc/07
[12:10] <geneo93> Psykus shouldn't
[12:11] <Psykus> k, good
[12:11] <geneo93> Mantice:  search where
[12:11] <Mwafrika> conept10: No... just links... to get updates from...
[12:11] <Mantice> Ahh
[12:11] <Alexi5> ubuntu has great documentation
[12:11] <Mantice> Its allgrayed out
[12:12] <Mantice> How to i get to it
[12:12] <concept10> Mwafrika, okay, do you see the Find/Replace button (last on right)
[12:12] <Mwafrika> yes
[12:12] <geneo93> sudo gedit /etc/fstab Mantice
[12:12] <concept10> Mwafrika, hit that button, Find hoary, replace with breezy
[12:12] <Mwafrika> concept10: What should i search for or replace?
[12:13] <concept10> Mwafrika, take a quick look at the file, make sure they were all replace, Save and exit, go back to the terminal window
[12:13] <Mantice> I found fstab
[12:13] <Mantice> its looks kinda like a bash script
[12:13] <Mantice> its just a file
[12:13] <concept10> Mwafrika, done?
[12:14] <topyli> Mantice: everytihing is a file in unix :)
[12:14] <Mwafrika> concept10: i have replace 16 txt... saved and exited... im on terminal
[12:14] <Mantice> Well what do I do with it
[12:14] <geneo93> yes you need to paste it in pastebin or #flood
[12:14] <concept10> Mwafrika, okay, listen and understand now before you do this
[12:14] <topyli> Mantice: either reboot or remount everything
[12:14] <concept10> Mwafrika, do this: sudo apt-get update
[12:14] <Mantice> ok
[12:15] <Mantice> brb
[12:15] <Mwafrika> concept10: Im waiting?
[12:15] <mjog> guys, does anyone have a solution to the "depmod: not found" when booting problem (after hoary->dapper flight4 dist-upgrade)?
[12:15] <mjog> I have tried the solutions in the forums, but they don't seem to help
[12:16] <concept10> Mwafrika, and after that do: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (THIS WILL TAKE YOU TO BREEZY)
[12:16] <Mwafrika> concept: Its getting updates from mirromax breezy i think from littler i can understand
[12:16] <gnomefreak> mjog: iirc hoary to dapper is not suggested you need to go release at a time
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Mwafrika: mirrormax are no longer working
[12:17] <mjog> gnomefreak: do'h, I meant  breezy
[12:17] <gnomefreak> mjog: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:17] <concept10> Mwafrika, well thats basically what you have to do.  You need to find a good repostiroy for your area, I dont know anything about mirrormaxc
[12:18] <Mwafrika> concept10: I dont know... i saw that word from a line of the process
[12:18] <gnomefreak> Mwafrika: have a look at this site ubotu posts for a sources.list
[12:18] <Mwafrika> concept10: i think its working now... cause it take long to update than it took... last time
[12:18] <gnomefreak> !sources
[12:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:18] <geneo93> Mwafrika:  do google for ubuntu sources.list
[12:19] <mjog> gnomefreak: yeah, it's fine. the install went smoothly, everything seems to be right, but on booting, i get "depmod: not found"
[12:19] <gnomefreak> mjog: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:19] <gnomefreak> let me know what happens
[12:19] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[12:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ^^^is also a good place to get sources.list from
[12:20] <mjog> gnomefreak: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 442 not upgraded.. those 442 are from the network
[12:20] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  i'm from the wat back machine
[12:21] <mjog> after doing the dist-upgrade (from fligh 4 cd) there were 0 to upgrade
[12:21] <mjog> gnomefreak: yeah, it is
[12:21] <gnomefreak> mjog: how would you do a dist-upgrade from dapper?
[12:22] <concept10> Mwafrika, get one of those sources.list and copy and paste them in the same file you editing a min ago
[12:22] <geneo93> same way
[12:22] <harshal> anyone got their TV tuner card working from India?
[12:22] <harshal> anyone got their TV tuner card working from India?
[12:22] <mjog> i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper using the flight 4 cd
[12:22] <gnomefreak> you cant upgrade from dapper flight 4
[12:22] <Mantice> Hello Im back
[12:22] <gnomefreak> ahhh
[12:22] <MisterN> harshal: no but i'm happily using it from germany *g*
[12:22] <Mantice> I still Cant find my hard drives :(
[12:22] <Curtman> Is there a simple way to patch a kernel from a deb-source package, and generate new .deb's?  I want to add support for my SATA drive.
[12:23] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  sure you can get dailys
[12:23] <Mantice> If it helps diskmanger sees it
[12:23] <Mwafrika> Concept10: i have landed here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic im trying to create a courses.list.... what do you think?
[12:23] <harshal> i got that pixel piew pro. which has philips tuner.
[12:23] <gnomefreak> mjog: that i would say file a bug on it  (the dist-upgrade option is not been tested all that much
[12:23] <gnomefreak> geneo93: that would be updates not a dist-upgrade
[12:23] <concept10> Mwafrika, do it and just copy paste
[12:23] <mjog> gnomefreak: check, will do
[12:24] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  its the same thing dude
[12:24] <Mwafrika> concept10: Ur the best man..... can we have a  privatechat?
[12:24] <MisterN> harshal: saa7134?
[12:24] <raggi> hi, can someone give me a hand
[12:24] <raggi> i've only just installed this ubuntu machine
[12:24] <BlueEagle> harshal: Is it a brooktree device or the new chips that hauppage and pinnacle has been starting to use?
[12:24] <raggi> trying to install subversion
[12:24] <Seveas> there ya go
[12:24] <Seveas> raggi, apt-get install subversion
[12:24] <topyli> raggi: just ask a question
[12:24] <raggi> issueing apt-get install subversion
[12:24] <raggi> that doesn't work
[12:24] <geneo93> dist-upgrade update all debs that are newer than whats installed
[12:25] <Madeye> guys, I have build-in bluetooth, any idea how to turn it on? actually it works fine but if I enable it from windows and then boot to ubuntu, cant I now turn the device on from linux >?
[12:25] <raggi> Package subversion is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:25] <Seveas> geneo93, upgrade does that too, unless new packages would be dragged in or packages would get removed
[12:25] <gnomefreak> geneo93: yes i understand but dist-upgrade is for kernel updates
[12:25] <Seveas> !info subversion
[12:25] <concept10> Mwafrika, yeah but no gay stuff ;)
[12:25] <Mabus06> How do you change the colors of everything like in XP's 'display settings > appearance'
[12:25] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[12:25] <Seveas> gnomefreak, nonsense
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Seveas: sudo apt-get upgrade will hold back kernel
[12:25] <Seveas> raggi, can you put your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[12:25] <Mantice> How do I access my drives please?
[12:25] <Seveas> geneo93, upgrade does that too, unless new packages would be dragged in or packages would get removed <-- gnomefreak
[12:25] <geneo93> Seveas:  i've been using that since day one
[12:25] <topyli> raggi: something is wrong with your sources.list
[12:26] <BlueEagle> where did harshal go?
[12:26] <raggi> ok, where is that?
[12:26] <Seveas> raggi, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <geneo93> of course i dont do gnome
[12:27] <raggi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9243
[12:27] <raggi> there we go
[12:27] <raggi> :)
[12:27] <Mantice> !drives
[12:27] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mantice
[12:27] <Mantice> !hd
[12:27] <billh> Anybody here get the serial console in grub working ?
[12:27] <ubotu> Mantice: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:27] <raggi> i literally did a default install AFAIK
[12:28] <topyli> raggi: everything is commented out, you have no sources :)
[12:28] <Mantice> No one knows where the drives went ><
[12:28] <Seveas> raggi, there are no internet sources enabled, grab a default sources.list from paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:28] <gnomefreak> raggi: you need to put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from the other lines that start with deb
[12:28] <raggi> i see
[12:28] <raggi> is that because i did a cd install?
[12:28] <geneo93> Mantice:  i have to get some sleep got two teens coming later
[12:29] <Mantice> ok
[12:29] <Mantice> Ill keep hunting
[12:29] <gnomefreak> raggi: yes its always like that
[12:29] <topyli> raggi: listen to Seveas, or visit this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and you will be fine
[12:29] <Mantice> it must be here some where lol
[12:29] <geneo93> cul8r
[12:29] <raggi> thank you :)
[12:29] <geneo93> Mantice:  look on wiki for mount windows drives
[12:29] <Mabus06> How do you change the colors of everything like in XP's 'display settings > appearance' I want the 'human' colors changed to much darker, easier on the eyes color scheme
[12:32] <Seveas> Mabus06, system->prefs->themes
[12:32] <iBalo> Mabus06, it doesn't work like in windows. You might want to install the gnome-art package to easily download and install different themes
[12:32] <Mabus06> Seveas, not a lot of options, and you can only pick from predefined ones... I can't pick my own colors?
[12:32] <Seveas> Mabus06, -ENOCLUE actually, I like the brown and never tried to change it
[12:33] <Seveas> Mabus06, you could prod in the .theme file
[12:33] <shygoly05g> i reinstalled windows and cant get in ubuntu again
[12:33] <raggi> right, sources.list seems ok
[12:33] <Seveas> !grub
[12:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:33] <raggi> but i get couldn't stat source package
[12:33] <shygoly05g>  i tried some tips on the net
[12:33] <Seveas> ^-- shygoly05g visit the second link
[12:33] <Seveas> raggi, sudo apt-get update
[12:34] <shygoly05g> ok
[12:34] <raggi> that's the ticket :)
[12:34] <iBalo> shygoly05g, that's why the XP-installer overwrote the mbr (certainly without asking or notifying), where grub has to be installed to have dualboot
[12:34] <shygoly05g> !grub
[12:34] <raggi> um, sudo isn't working properly yet, i'm in the admin group and sudoers seems to ahve admin in there, maybe i need to re-login
[12:34] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:35] <raggi> \o/ subversion is installing, thanks guys :)
[12:35] <raggi> ooh, and auto-updates seems to have kicked in
[12:35] <shygoly05g> o that's too difficult for me
[12:35] <Mantice> how to i get to the termal in ubuntu
[12:36] <iBalo> shygoly05g, do you have a Live CD at hand?
[12:36] <topyli> raggi: don't mess with the sudoers file directly, use visudo beacuse it checks for the file's sanity before saving it
[12:36] <shygoly05g>  when i tried "grub", it says probing the divce guess the bios
[12:36] <shygoly05g>  yes ,i have
[12:36] <shygoly05g>  then eoor
[12:36] <Mantice> holy crap my computer is silent in linux
[12:36] <Mantice> really silent
[12:36] <Mantice> and its not hot at all
[12:36] <iBalo> I think the easist way is to boot up the Live CD and set things from there
[12:37] <Mantice> it must be 20 degrees
[12:37] <Mantice> in windows it was like 50
[12:37] <luite_> Mantice: did you use some distributed computing like seti@home in windows?
[12:37] <raggi> topyli: didn't need ot edit it, but yes :)
[12:38] <raggi> brb
[12:38] <Mantice> ???
[12:38] <Mantice> what does that do
[12:38] <shygoly05g> live cd and the system on the disk are not the same
[12:38] <iBalo> shygoly05g, doesn't matter... you only need a grub prompt in aterminal
[12:38] <luite_> Mantice: does calculations for the project, loads your cpu 100% all the time. that may explain the difference
[12:39] <shygoly05g> ok ,i'll try
[12:39] <Mantice> I lov Ubuntu
[12:39] <Mantice> Wheres termonal
[12:39] <iBalo> !enter
[12:39] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:39] <Ng> Mantice: Applications->Accessories
[12:41] <Mantice> HELLO
[12:41] <Mantice> I need command prompt asp
[12:41] <Mantice> I cant find it
[12:41] <iBalo> !enter
[12:41] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:41] <stu> Applications>Accessories>Terminal as was said
[12:42] <Mantice> Thanks
[12:42] <Mantice> How do you guys mount your windows drives?
[12:42] <iBalo> !enter
[12:42] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:42] <stu> I dont use windows
[12:43] <stu> waste of space money time and overhead "security"
[12:43] <Mantice> The drive dont have windows on it no more
[12:43] <pete_> !ntfs
[12:43] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:43] <Mantice> it just has music
[12:43] <Mantice> Thanks
[12:43] <stu> otherwise use the mount command from a shell
[12:43] <pete_> !ubotu tell Mantice about ntfs
[12:46] <learner_learner> I installed E17 from cvs but the /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment file is missing, so I'm not able to log into. Why so?
[12:46] <Mantice> It said that the script loaded them read only how do I change that
[12:47] <stu> Mantice - once you get it mounted and presuming your not using window$ anymore - you might aswell reformat once you have your data. Pointless it being ntfs if your using *nix
[12:48] <iBalo> There is no full write for ntfs in Linux... only the latest and greatest kernels start having it
[12:48] <Mantice> :/
[12:48] <Mantice> So your saying its update time
[12:49] <iBalo> Mantice, anyway why would you want to use ntfs? there's far better filesystems in Linux, and options to choose from for different purposes
[12:49] <stu> you could say we're saying, you might aswell unify your FS if your only running linux. Unless you absolutlely require it to be NTFS
[12:50] <Mantice> I dont want to format
[12:50] <Mantice> I have games and Music I dont want to lose
[12:50] <stu> Mantice - is the drive only there as a data store?
[12:50] <Mantice> Yeah
[12:50] <Mantice> I Still have windows
[12:50] <iBalo> Then don't write to the drive, and wait until dapper has well testet ntfs r/w support
[12:50] <stu> cant you back it up or move the data to another drive for temp storage then reformat the drive and put the data back?
[12:50] <Mantice> Nah
[12:51] <Mantice> To big data :/
[12:51] <stu> Mantice: So your still using windows?
[12:51] <iBalo> ... a case for xfs ....
[12:51] <Mantice> I just got Ubuntu
[12:51] <Mantice> I plan on not using it
[12:51] <Mantice> But I will need it for games / LAN
[12:51] <iBalo> Mantice, please stop using enter as punctuation
[12:51] <stu> now I understand - Thought you'd got rid of windows totally and just has a spare drive with NTFS FS on it
[12:52] <pete_> WELL I'm MIKE D i Got The DEUCES WIld
[12:52] <Mantice> I have a NTFS Drive with Cd images / music / videos
[12:52] <Mantice> and i have a windows drive
[12:52] <Mantice> and i have a linux drive
[12:52] <iBalo> This is a lesson in 'vendor-lock-in'
[12:52] <Mantice> how to u use the bot?
[12:52] <Mantice> !mp3
[12:52] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:53] <stu> Mantice - then as said your best waiting for the final DAPPER release to have full r/w support for that drive. Otherwise you could have just read access for the time being useing mount
[12:54] <Mantice> ok
[12:55] <Mantice> ill wait
[12:55] <boabsta> guys, I keep getting hundreds of "APIC error on CPU0" in dmesg...anyone got any ideas about this?
[12:55] <Mantice> when is there esmated time of release?
[12:55] <iBalo> April 20Th
[12:55] <chicken-man> What do I need to install to compile openGL programs ?
[12:55] <boabsta> i have just installed ubuntu ^
[12:56] <pete_> boabsta, welcome to ubuntu :-P
[12:56] <boabsta> pete_, :)
[12:57] <boabsta> anyone have any ideas about APIC error on CPU0?
[12:57] <boabsta> i think my CPU may be about to die, the PC reboots itself or hangs alot :(
[12:57] <iBalo> To compile _anything_ you'd first need the 'build-essential' metapack... look in synaptic in section devel what else could be of use
[12:58] <christiank> hi there, anyone know how to detect raid0 when running ubuntu install?
[12:58] <christiank> nfoce4 serial ata
[12:59] <shygoly05g> iBalo in the live system grub is not installed
[01:00] <iBalo> shygoly05g, oh... going to a terminal and 'sudo grub' doesn't yield anything?  strange...
[01:01] <chicken-man> I get this error when trying to configure plib-1.8.4 ("configure: error: could not find working GL library
[01:01] <chicken-man> ") what do I need to install ?
[01:02] <ViViD> how do i change my language in ubuntu?
[01:02] <shygoly05g> not found the command
[01:02] <iBalo> There's a GUI configuration tool for that in System-> Admin
[01:03] <ViViD> oh, i was trying to use dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:03] <iBalo> shygoly05g, can you chroot in your installed system?
[01:04] <Infecto> hello all :)
[01:04] <Infecto> how can i enable Display manager in kcontrol ?
[01:05] <Infecto> this one which allow me to manipulate resolution
[01:05] <Infecto> is it in some package ?
[01:05] <chicken-man> I get this error while trying to configure plib-1.8.4,    configure: error: could not find working GL library
[01:05] <chicken-man> ,  what do I need to install ????
[01:06] <ompaul> ViViD, system administration language selector
[01:07] <iBalo> chicken-man, I'd try installing glutg3-dev
[01:07] <iBalo> !info glutg3-dev
[01:07] <ubotu> glutg3-dev: (the OpenGL Utility Toolkit development files), section oldlibs, is optional. Version: 3.7-25 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[01:07] <chicken-man> iBalo, ok thanks
[01:08] <chicken-man> iBalo, Nope still gives same error
[01:08] <learner_learner> how to install Xine?
[01:08] <learner_learner> apt-get install xine is not taking
[01:08] <iBalo> one of the *-dev packages is missing... try to figure out which one
[01:11] <iBalo> learner_learner, sudo apt-get install libxine1c2 , or choose a frontend (totem-xine e.g.) then it will be installed as a dep
[01:11] <ompaul> chicken-man, sudo apt-get install plib1.8.4 works for me -
[01:12] <learner_learner> iBalo, I have installed totem-xine but when I install E17 it's showing checking for xine - version >= 1.1.1... no
[01:13] <iBalo> Bad luck... xine 1.1 isn't in breezy
[01:13] <learner_learner> oh
[01:13] <thesaltydog> in recent firefox upgrade I have lost all amy bookmarks... It is a known bug?
[01:14] <learner_learner> which version then?, iBalo
[01:14] <iBalo> learner_learner, but there's a e17-version of ubuntu announced... i think Ebuntu or so... somebody alredy took the trouble foe you
[01:14] <thesaltydog> v.  1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu4
[01:15] <learner_learner> oh ok thanks, iBalo
 i the prompt is "#", i think  i get root privileg
[01:17] <iBalo> yes, good
[01:17] <learner_learner> iBalo, can I show you the error messages I'm getting after installing E17?
[01:17] <DigitalLF> anyone got a inspiron 9400/E1705?
[01:17] <iBalo> learner_learner, sorry but why should i care?
[01:17] <DigitalLF> need help with resolution
[01:18] <shygoly05g> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:18] <iBalo> learner_learner, installing stuff from cvs is being on your own :-)
[01:18] <learner_learner> ok
[01:19] <iBalo> shygoly05g, so you're now chrooted in your installed system?
[01:20] <shygoly05g> no, still in live
[01:21] <Blueeyes_JeJa> slash314
[01:21] <iBalo> where's your installed system on hd?
[01:21] <shygoly05g> i use the install cd to get in the installed system
[01:21] <thesaltydog> is anybody experiencing lost of bookmark on firefox v.  1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu4?
[01:21] <iBalo> ahhh... good
[01:21] <slash314> Blueeyes_JeJa, fuck
[01:21] <shygoly05g> hda3
[01:21] <AljoshaNL> hey'
[01:22] <iBalo> shygoly05g, then simply run 'grub'
[01:22] <shygoly05g> probing the devices ,guess the bios
[01:22] <shygoly05g> it says
[01:22] <Sonobana> hey anyone used anjuta?
[01:22] <iBalo> at the grub-prompt give: find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:23] <Hydra> hi there
[01:24] <Hydra> i want to setup ubunto on a 20gb area that's on an 500gb raid-0 array that's already partitioned and runs windows xp.  the controller is the nforce4 sata raid controller
[01:24] <shygoly05g> dev/discs/disc0/part'X' grub-install /dev/hda'X' are the two 'x's the same
[01:25] <polymatrix> hi, does anyone here know how to edit the apt source list....also, in ubuntu, how do you log in as root?
[01:25] <iBalo> shygoly05g, i don't understand... is it a raid-array?
[01:25] <Hydra> the installer lists my two hard drives but doesn't show any raid volumes
[01:26] <Hydra> can anyone help?
[01:26] <polymatrix> i'm kinda new to linux , so any help would be appreciated
[01:27] <djp> polymatrix, use the sudo command for tasks that need root privileges
[01:28] <learner_learner> polymatrix, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <polymatrix> type it in the terminal window?
[01:28] <learner_learner> yes
[01:29] <polymatrix> thanks
[01:31] <MalfoeFor> there's also a GUI for it under system tool>run as differant user
[01:31] <spacey> any xchat gnome user here?
[01:32] <polymatrix> i'm using xchat
[01:34] <Guardiann> xchat here as well
[01:34] <[aJ] > Is it a wise idea to uninstall gcc 4.0 and install 3.4?
[01:34] <polymatrix> for me its kinda akward compared to mirc....the simplicity is nice though
[01:35] <GTX> Im using xchat to
[01:35] <GTX> ;x
[01:35] <DigitalLF> howto install intel chipset 950 graffic card on a dell inspiron 9400/E1705 with xorg?
[01:35] <[aJ] > gaim
[01:37] <buan> gaim wont work with amd64?
[01:37] <buan> mine doesnt connect
[01:40] <CarinArr> hey, can anyone tell me what package contains pine?
[01:41] <magenet> anyone one?
[01:41] <amphi> CarinArr: IIRC you have to install a pine src package and build it, because of the pine license
[01:41] <amphi> CarinArr: mutt is better IMHO anyway ;)
[01:42] <Oli> Hey, I need some help with an env variable JAVA_HOME, i've putted it into /etc/profile but, still only root gets it. I have for "normal" users always source /etc/profile.  Thanks, cradek!
[01:43] <Rawplayer> np
[01:43] <h0me5k1n> how do i set up a module to load at startup?
[01:43] <snowblink> cradek, btdown or /etc/issue
[01:44] <amphi> CarinArr: you must build it yourself in that case, I think
[01:44] <btdown> Thank snowblink...I could have swore I dist-upgraded this laptop to dapper...guess i was wrong... ;(
[01:44] <CarinArr> found a .deb that seems to work
[01:44] <raggi> what's the ubuntu command to start sshd?
[01:44] <CarinArr> thanks!
[01:44] <raggi> it's not in init.d?
[01:44] <amphi> h0me5k1n: echo <module_name> | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:44] <amphi> CarinArr: cool
[01:44] <bliss> hello all
[01:44] <h0me5k1n> ty :D
[01:45] <buan> amphi will it always ask for sudo pwd?
[01:46] <bliss> i notice on bootup there something that is called sperserver--xintend --what is that
[01:46] <bliss> superserver--xintend
[01:47] <embrapa> como entro em portugues
[01:49] <rambo3> !br
[01:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:50] <Sonobana> my anjuta cant fint gtk-config. what i do?
[01:50] <Sonobana> i have installed gtk-dev -packages
[01:50] <Arafangion> What should I install to get libstdc++* ?
[01:50] <rambo3> ask linus
[01:51] <Sonobana> Arafangion: just apt-get it?
[01:51] <Arafangion> Sonobana: Which package?
[01:51] <rambo3> g++ and libstdc and c++
[01:52] <Arafangion> Thanks.
[01:52] <rambo3> but i wuold guess it picks up dependecies with std lib
[01:52] <Arafangion> arafangion@therock:~$ sudo apt-get install libstdc++
[01:53] <Arafangion> E: Couldn't find package libstdc
[01:53] <Arafangion> Naturally - so what package?
[01:54] <cooldaddydoof> highyalldoontusmunin
[01:54] <cooldaddydoof> what is crs failure for PnP0200,PnP0800,0700,0303,0f03,0c04,0b00
[01:54] <rambo3> arafagion sudo apt-cache search lib std |grep c++
[01:55] <Arafangion> apt-cache doesn't need root privs, btw, but thanks, completely forgot that.
[01:55] <WorstPhobia> How can you change the page margins for just ONE page in OpenOffice?
[01:57] <Arafangion> WorstPhobia: Try asking #openoffice.org
[01:57] <WorstPhobia> I am. Sorry. Usually I don't get a response.
[01:58] <rapha_> Does somebody know how to make a Nautilus Action to execute something as root? I tried "gksudo" as path and ""gnome-terminal -x %d/%f"" as arguments, but nothing happens... only a terminal opens very briefly and goes away.
[01:58] <Arafangion> WorstPhobia: Yes, _most_ project channels don't really do much, but #openoffice.org has a healthy population.
[01:58] <LadyNikon> morning
[01:58] <Arafangion> rapha_: Why would you do that?
[01:58] <Arafangion> rapha_: What kind of file is it?
[01:59] <rapha_> Arafangion: because I often have to do that and don't want to open a terminal manually and type it in. It's an executable .sh file.
[01:59] <rapha_> I already got an Edit as Root action with gnome-open, which works just fine.
[02:00] <cooldaddydoof> anyone know what crs failure for Pnp0200 might be
[02:00] <Arafangion> rapha_: Try setting the sticky bit with chmod
[02:01] <cooldaddydoof> I am installing dapper on P4 machine get list of same errors each time disk is inserted
[02:01] <Arafangion> rapha_: I can't remember exactly, but I do remember that a type of file permission caused files to be executed with the privs of the owner.
[02:01] <Arafangion> rapha_: (So, make it owned by root)
[02:01] <Arafangion> rapha_: suid, I think it was.
[02:01] <rambo3> /usr/bin/gksudo , do you add fullpath like that ?
[02:01] <rapha_> Arafangion: that is not what I want. I want to execute it through sudo.
[02:02] <rapha_> rambo3: yes, tried both
[02:02] <rambo3> and you marked offcourse run in terminal?
[02:02] <pointy> anyone got a good suggestion for a wifi network card for a desktop?
[02:03] <rapha_> rambo3: what do you mean, offcourse?
[02:03] <Arafangion> pointy: The intel ones that come standard on new laptops work very nicely.
[02:03] <rambo3> and you marked run in terminal ?
[02:03] <pointy> Arafangion: I meant a desktop pc
[02:03] <Arafangion> pointy: Personally I don't see the point of using wireless on desktops, so I just purchase a wireless bridge.
[02:03] <pointy> sorry for not being specific
[02:04] <Arafangion> pointy: And wire the desktops.
[02:04] <rapha_> rambo3: there's no run in terminal checkbox anywhere. That's why my arguments read ""gnome-terminal -x %d/%f""
[02:04] <pointy> this is a specific temporary point where my desktop don't have a normal connection
[02:04] <shephard> hola
[02:04] <shephard> alguien espaol?
[02:04] <rapha_> Do you guys even know Nautilus Actions?
[02:05] <Arafangion> rapha_: I don't.
[02:05] <amphi> !es
[02:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:05] <Arafangion> rapha_: I live in teh console the entire time, incidently.
[02:05] <rapha_> Okay then :-)
[02:05] <pointy> so I if want a internet connection @ home, I need a wifi card for my desktop (I have no laptop
[02:05] <rapha_> I'm trying to get away from that
[02:05] <Seveas> !es
[02:05] <Arafangion> rapha_: NOTHING beats screen.
[02:05] <Arafangion> :)
[02:05] <amphi> Arafangion: heh, the ultimate window manager
[02:06] <rapha_> Arafangion: yeah :) ... just different thing
[02:06] <Arafangion> pointy: Wireless internet access is very much a novelty here ;)
[02:06] <alynx> anyone got an URL to a guide for making debian archives ?
[02:06] <Arafangion> alynx: it's generally a 200G rsync
[02:07] <Mwafrika> Anyody with a sucessesfull Breezy installation?
[02:07] <salah> yes
[02:07] <tristan> yes
[02:07] <salah> I did
[02:07] <alynx> Mwaftika:yes
[02:07] <Arafangion> alynx: Give or take a few 100G.
[02:07] <Guardiann> Arafangion novelty where in Ubuntu?
[02:07] <Arafangion> Guardiann: Sorry, Australia ;)
[02:07] <Guardiann> ah
[02:08] <Arafangion> Guardiann: Populations not really dense enough for wireless internet at that level.
[02:08] <alynx> Arafangion: I have made a deb file and added it on a ftp server , and i guess i need to build a debian archive to be able to aptitude install *filename* right?
[02:09] <Mwafrika> Alynx: Im upgrading from Hoary to Beezy.....  after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and successful upgrade... which command im suppose to issue?
[02:09] <Arafangion> alynx: You could try finding a small archive, and rsync'ing it to see what they do...  That can't be very large.
[02:09] <Arafangion> alynx: Unless someone here gives you better instructinos :)
[02:10] <alynx> Arafangion: well ,ok thanks :)
[02:10] <salah> Actually I just install Ubuntu
[02:10] <WorstPhobia> Arafangion, they're ignoring me.
[02:10] <Arafangion> Mwafrika: Did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and issue apt-get update ?
[02:10] <salah> I am facing lit problem
[02:10] <Arafangion> WorstPhobia: Ask again tomorrow.
[02:10] <salah> is there any one can helpme out
[02:10] <alynx> Mwafrika: same as Arafangion said
[02:10] <WorstPhobia> Seeing as the project's due at school today...
[02:11] <tristan> salah : ask
[02:11] <Arafangion> WorstPhobia: If they keep ignoring you, I would assume that it's not possible :(
[02:11] <salah> thank tristan
[02:11] <WorstPhobia> It'd be nice if they just SAID it.
[02:11] <pointy> Arafangion: well, if I'm to get internet access at home, I need a wireless card for my desktop, which is why I'm asking for a card that's well supported under linux
[02:11] <salah> Actually I can't able to setupany exefile
[02:11] <Mwafrika> Arafangion: Yes i did.... i think yes.... i got a fresh sources.list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and saved it
[02:11] <tristan> salah, what do you mean by exefile?
[02:12] <salah> how can I setup new exe file
[02:12] <Arafangion> pointy: I use intel wiresless nic's that come standard with laptops very well (in my laptop) - perhaps the desktop equivalent should be good?
[02:12] <Arafangion> salah: What's exe?
[02:12] <pointy> k
[02:12] <amphi> WorstPhobia: I'd just make that page a separate file
[02:12] <cooldaddydoof> salah if it is .exe I don;t think you can
[02:12] <salah> say I wanna see msn tv
[02:12] <ompaul> WorstPhobia, it is not anyones place to say - I have no idea and the others do not know if it is possible, the only thing that can be said is (A) do it this way (B) it will not work
[02:12] <Oli> Hiho, exists any good display manger tool, if you switch sometimes from different external screens? for xorg
[02:12] <salah> for this I need internet explorer
[02:12] <alynx> you could use .exe files with wine though
[02:13] <amphi> pointy: ralink rt2500 chipset is well supported by a GPL driver, and is cheap
[02:13] <salah> When I tried to install it'snot runnning
[02:13] <cooldaddydoof> salah they you have to use wine or crossover office
[02:13] <tristan> salah there is already a browser for Linux
[02:13] <tristan> Maybe you can use firefox
[02:13] <pointy> amphi: what cards use that chipset?
[02:13] <cooldaddydoof> with mplyer plugn
[02:13] <salah> but it's not supportiing viedio
[02:13] <amphi> pointy: dunno offhand - ralink make cards themselves I believe
[02:13] <pointy> K
[02:13] <zephrax> hey..
[02:13] <cooldaddydoof> salah you need the mplayer plugin
[02:13] <cooldaddydoof> for firefox
[02:14] <tristan> salah, install the mplayer plugin for mozilla
[02:14] <zephrax> hoy can i run an application as another user?
[02:14] <salah> how can i do that
[02:14] <Arafangion> Also note restricted formats
[02:14] <Arafangion> !restricted_formats
[02:14] <ubotu> Arafangion: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <amphi> pointy: a friend of mine has a cardbus rt2500 and it seems to work well
[02:14] <Arafangion> !restricted_format
[02:14] <ubotu> Arafangion: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <Arafangion> !restricted format
[02:14] <ubotu> Arafangion: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:14] <raggi> um, dos2unix in the apt-cache doesn't seem to work
[02:14] <alynx> www.ubuntuforums.org is real nice
[02:14] <rambo3> !restricted
[02:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:14] <raggi> sorry, dos2unix in sysutils
[02:14] <zephrax> i need to run an application as non-root logged as root :P
[02:14] <cooldaddydoof> salah hold on
[02:14] <raggi> simply doesn't touch the file i send at it
[02:14] <Arafangion> rambo3: Thankyou.
[02:14] <salah> ok
[02:15] <amphi> raggi: to remove ^M from line ends?
[02:15] <tristan> salah, launh synaptic it's in System, administration
[02:15] <raggi> amphi: yes
[02:15] <raggi> surely dos2unix or fromdos *should* work
[02:15] <salah> actually How can I use yahoo and msn massenger?
[02:15] <tristan> Then you have to look for mplayer wuth search and choose to install mplayer-plugin
[02:15] <alynx> salah: kopete or gaim
[02:15] <tristan> salah : you can use it with GAIM
[02:15] <amphi> raggi: you can do that in vim - :%s/<ctrl-vctrl-m//g
[02:16] <Arafangion> amphi: Or... Just: ":set ff=dos"
[02:16] <salah> sorry i dont't know where gaim
[02:16] <amphi> raggi: er, :%s/<ctrl-v><ctrl-m>//g
[02:16] <tristan> Look in you top menus
[02:16] <tristan> salah : Look in you top menus
[02:16] <amphi> Arafangion: that will hide them in vim but leave them in the file I believe
[02:16] <tristan> salah, you should find it there
[02:16] <raggi> i'm SOOOO fed up of distributions that don't work
[02:16] <raggi> [B
[02:16] <Arafangion> amphi: vim tries to be smart. If it detects line endings in dos, it'll do it in dos, and likewise for unix.
[02:17] <salah> no Gaim
[02:17] <amphi> Arafangion: yeah
[02:17] <tristan> then launch a terminal and type gaim
[02:17] <Arafangion> amphi: But if you set the encoding, I'm 99% sure that it'll write it in that format.
[02:17] <raggi> amphi: thanks
[02:17] <Arafangion> amphi: In this case, there must've been a mixup somewhere, perhaps some configuration isn't quite right, or there is some confusion in the file (mixed line endings?)
[02:17] <raggi> i'm so damn fed up of distibutions that fundamentally don't work
[02:17] <cooldaddydoof> salah apt-get install mozilla-mplayer mplayer-386 mplayer-fonts
[02:17] <tristan> salah, it should really be in it. The icon is a yellow guy
[02:17] <axisys> anyone knows why mplayer is failing to play this http://pastebin.com/570191
[02:18] <raggi> i've yet to see any package system that actually installs working software every time
[02:18] <amphi> raggi: which are they?
[02:18] <raggi> it's pathetic
[02:18] <amphi> raggi: debian has worked well for me
[02:18] <raggi> sysutils, the dos2unix/fromdos program doesn't work
[02:18] <alynx> axisys: use vlc , plays everything ^^
[02:18] <Arafangion> raggi: Ubuntu does. So does Debian, however, bear in mind that a *server* OS has different goals.
[02:18] <amphi> raggi: dos2unix has always worked for me, on the rare occasions I've needed it
[02:18] <raggi> debian installed archaic software, and a kernel that didn't support my PS/2 mouse, that *should* be supported by a vanilla kernel
[02:18] <salah> thank's I got it
[02:19] <Arafangion> raggi: You don't want to install postfix only to realise that *poof*, your sendmail configuration for 1000 users suddenly gets messed up, do you?
[02:19] <tristan> salah, gaim or mplayer plugin?
[02:19] <raggi> Arafangion: that doesn't excuse software you install not working
[02:19] <salah> gaim
[02:19] <axisys> hmm.. i actually like mplayer better.. may be someday i switch to vlc.. thnx for the suggestion
[02:19] <amphi> raggi: debian stable is not 'archaic' sw, it's just not bleeding edge
[02:19] <salah> but what account
[02:19] <raggi> do an apt-get install sysutils and try to use dos2unix
[02:19] <Arafangion> raggi: And until 2 years ago, I was STILL RUNNING 2.2
[02:19] <axisys> alynx: that last message was a response to your comment
[02:19] <raggi> amphi: support for my ps2 controller has been in the kernel for years
[02:19] <tristan> salah, then if you want to use it as MSN messenger or yahoo
[02:19] <amphi> raggi: I guess if you use gnome or kde it matters, otherwise it doesn't seem to
[02:19] <raggi> for some reason, it's NOT in debians particular build
[02:19] <Arafangion> raggi: Kernel 2.2, that is.
[02:20] <salah> yahoo
[02:20] <axisys> i still like to find out why mplayer is failing here http://pastebin.com/570191
[02:20] <amphi> raggi: the support is modular perhaps?
[02:20] <raggi> that makes it bleeding edge, as it's clearly been changed
[02:20] <tristan> salah, then there should be a scrolling menu where you can choose yahho messenger
[02:20] <sohmc> hello everyone
[02:20] <tristan> salah, your logi and pass are the same as usual
[02:20] <raggi> meaning i cannot rely on it, AND it doesn't work, that's worse than what you are describing
[02:20] <amphi> raggi: I have the psmouse module loaded here
[02:20] <Arafangion> raggi: I have used debian since 2.2, and I have never had the problems you are facing.
[02:21] <amphi> raggi: I know for a fact that debian stable supports ps2 mouse
[02:21] <alynx> axisys: you're welcome , but i use vlc for every kind of video formats. So if you have problems using maplayer or totem , go for vlc and make sure you get every plugin listed after apt-cache search vlc
[02:21] <raggi> Arafangion: i dumped gentoo yesterday because it wouldn't support my ps2 devices, today i am testing ubuntu
[02:21] <amphi> Arafangion: 2.2 is potato?
[02:21] <Arafangion> amphi: Yes.
[02:21] <raggi> so far, ubuntu has been ok, EXCEPT
[02:21] <Arafangion> amphi: Worked well on the 486.
[02:21] <amphi> Arafangion: yeah, that's the first debian I installed
[02:22] <raggi> 1. the package manager stopped loading a couple of times, until i logged in and logged out again, wiht no error messages and no rime or reason.
[02:22] <Arafangion> raggi: What?
[02:22] <raggi> 2. sysutils contains software that fails to do it's task
[02:22] <raggi> Arafangion: for some reason, the package manager refuses to load, randomly
[02:22] <salah> actually how can I use my wirless internet
[02:22] <Arafangion> raggi: Wait a sec, the "package manager stopped loading"?
[02:22] <raggi> i think it's a gnome issue, but i don't know
[02:22] <salah> Its' not working
[02:23] <raggi> click "applications->add applications"
[02:23] <salah> I have to use cable
[02:23] <Arafangion> raggi: Oh...  You're not talking about dpkg and apt-get, but synaptic?
[02:23] <raggi> that stops working, randomly when it wants to
[02:23] <tristan> salah, this matter is more complicated
[02:23] <salah> ohh
[02:23] <raggi> at which point many things in gnome also stop working
[02:23] <Arafangion> raggi: Debian is really ideal for _servers_.
[02:23] <raggi> this is a default install, with the exception of sources.list, and a couple of apt-get commands
[02:23] <tristan> salah, but someone here can definitely help you
[02:23] <raggi> Arafangion: as i have said before I'm running ubuntu
[02:24] <salah> oh that's great
[02:24] <raggi> amphi: i don't have time for that
[02:24] <raggi> the only reason i'm using a binary distribution is that i have little time
[02:24] <raggi> Arafangion: tell me how
[02:24] <Arafangion> raggi: First, what is "The package manager"?
[02:24] <tristan> salah, did you get the mplayer to watch videos on the internet?
[02:25] <Arafangion> raggi: In what way does it "Fail to load"?
[02:25] <raggi> Arafangion: well, it's call "add programs" on my menu
[02:25] <salah> no
[02:25] <raggi> what do you expect it to be called?
[02:25] <raggi> how am i supposed to know?
[02:25] <Arafangion> raggi: "Add programs"
[02:25] <raggi> this is not documented, or named correctly
[02:25] <salah> How can I get it plz
[02:25] <alynx> raggi: if you mean that an apt-get install is stalling , just go : apt-get install on the same package again and it will resume where it dropped
[02:25] <raggi> no wonder you can't understand me, i'm uneducated on this system.
[02:25] <raggi> no, it's synapticor whatever it's called
[02:25] <amphi> salah: what wireless card?
[02:25] <Arafangion> raggi: At the very least, and note that when you type in your password, it says its gnome-app-install
[02:25] <tristan> salah, in system and in another sub menu there should be something called synaptic
[02:26] <raggi> as i have said above, it's a gnome issue really, i know this, but that's not the point
[02:26] <salah> it's built in with laptop
[02:26] <raggi> it fails to load
[02:26] <raggi> as in, it runs something (harddrive activity) and displays NOTHING
[02:26] <tristan> salah, this is what you have to use to download and install new programs
[02:26] <raggi> and leaves no processes running
[02:26] <raggi> that's clearly "not working"
[02:26] <Arafangion> raggi: It _is_ odd that it's not working, though.
[02:26] <raggi> to debug further requires suitable documentation
[02:26] <raggi> Arafangion: AND this is a default install from an install cd
[02:27] <raggi> barring me setting up sources.list and doing a couple of relatively normal apt-gets
[02:27] <raggi> in particular sysutils, and openssh-server
[02:27] <salah> I found synaptic
[02:27] <salah> then ...?
[02:27] <amphi> salah: lscpi  - is it an intel?
[02:27] <raggi> that's it, so it's the distributions fault, not a local config
[02:27] <Arafangion> raggi: Suitable output for error reporting should be aquired by running "sudo gnome-app-install" at a terminal prompt.
[02:27] <raggi> sudo doesn't work.
[02:28] <Mwafrika> Anyone ever installed Windows.... after Ubuntu... without prior partition?
[02:28] <raggi> yes, sudoers is correct
[02:28] <Arafangion> raggi: What does the command "groups" reveal?
[02:28] <Arafangion> raggi: One of the groups should be 'admin'.
[02:28] <raggi> raggi users admin
[02:28] <raggi> so i'm in the admin group
[02:29] <osku> hello
[02:29] <Arafangion> raggi: Well I'm too tired, g'night. Sorry. (It's 00:29 24h time)
[02:29] <salah> i am not sure
[02:29] <raggi> i'm gobsmacked that something as simple as dos2unix simply doesn't work after a standard install
[02:29] <salah> My laptop is HP
[02:30] <tristan> salah then use find and type mplayer
[02:30] <raggi> i've not done anything off the wall or stupid and stuff doesn't work
[02:30] <amphi> salah: use lscpi | grep -i wireless
[02:30] <osku> are somebody from finland
[02:30] <tristan> salah, then there should be mplayer-plugin for mozilla
[02:30] <tristan> salah, get it
[02:30] <amphi> salah: here, that gives '0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)'
[02:30] <rambo3> enable extra reposotories first
[02:30] <salah> where lscpi |grep
[02:30] <salah> comd
[02:30] <amphi> salah: in a terminal
[02:31] <osku> are you from finland
[02:31] <rambo3> perkele
[02:31] <osku> rambo
[02:32] <osku> moi
[02:32] <shygoly05g> !br
[02:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:32] <osku> moi
[02:32] <tristan> osku : what does moi means?
[02:33] <osku> it means hi
[02:33] <tristan> osku,  Because in my language it means also something...
[02:33] <IdleOne> moi is french for me
[02:33] <rambo3> i dont speak finnish , knopw nly couple of frases
[02:33] <tristan> IdleOne, exactly
[02:33] <osku> in finland moi mean hi
[02:33] <salah> lscpi | grep -i wireless
[02:33] <salah>   comdnot found
[02:33] <Arafangion> raggi: *phrases
[02:33] <raggi> Arafangion: ?
[02:34] <osku> bay bay
[02:34] <Arafangion> raggi: Sorry, meant to be for rambo3
[02:34] <Arafangion> rambo3: *phrases
[02:34] <dentist> hey... i'm using a paralell to serial converter and then using grkterm, any idea what i to put as the port?
[02:34] <dentist> atm its /dev/ttySO
[02:34] <dentist> but i dont think thats correct
[02:34] <Arafangion> dentist: I don't think there is a such thing.
[02:35] <rambo3> salah run it as sudo
[02:35] <Arafangion> dentist: Serial ports used to be as large (infact, the same size) as a paralell port.
[02:35] <dentist> well whats the device for the paralell port
[02:35] <Arafangion> dentist: But it's not a converter.
[02:35] <rambo3> and its pci at the end lspci
[02:35] <Arafangion> dentist: Depends on what modules you're using.  It could be /dev/lp0
[02:35] <salah> i wrote in comd line lscpi | grep -i wireless
[02:36] <salah> but it says not found
[02:36] <rambo3> lspci | grep -i wireless
[02:36] <IdleOne> salah: do sudo lscpi | grep -i wireless
[02:36] <amphi> arrggh, stupid gnome terminal grabs f10
[02:37] <salah> not found
[02:37] <rambo3> sudo lspci | grep -i wireless !!
[02:37] <amphi> salah: oh, well, just do lspci and look for your wifi card 'manually'
[02:37] <dentist> i think you're right Arafangion - i think its just changing the socket
[02:37] <tristan> rambo3, lspci does not work for me also. Command not found
[02:38] <dentist> fuck lol..
[02:38] <salah> Sorry for hard time
[02:38] <dentist> stupid laptop doesnt have serial port either
[02:38] <salah> actually i am very new so...lol
[02:38] <amphi> salah: no worries
[02:38] <amphi> dentist: nor mine *sigh*
[02:38] <rambo3> tristan as sudo ?
[02:38] <salah> how can i do mannnually
[02:38] <dentist> usb to serial it is then
[02:39] <IdleOne> salah type lspci
[02:39] <amphi> dentist: aye, not that I got one yet
[02:39] <amphi> dentist: what latop do you have there?
[02:39] <tristan> salah, lspci | grep -i wireless
[02:39] <tristan> rambo3, there was a typo : lscpi instead of lspci
[02:39] <dentist> but of a pain in the ass, but i can live with it i guess
[02:40] <pudland> hi all
[02:40] <rambo3> and sudo lsmod |grep "that you want to see driver for"
[02:40] <salah> yes
[02:40] <salah> now comd is working
[02:40] <salah> but no change
[02:40] <tristan> salah, it should write Network controller....
[02:40] <amphi> salah: or /bin/lspci | grep -i network
[02:40] <amphi> salah: that should show both wireless and wired NICs
[02:41] <salah> 000:02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[02:42] <rambo3> tristan i know i pointed that 4 times
[02:42] <salah> i got this msg
[02:42] <amphi> salah: broadcom is t3h 3vi1 I believe, no native linux support AFAIK
[02:42] <Mwafrika> Do any one..... know how many files are suppose to be updated when upgrading from Hoary Hedgehog to Breezy?
[02:43] <salah> i don't get it amphi
[02:43] <tristan> rambo3, sorry
[02:43] <rambo3> just do dist-upgrade and it will show you , and type n for no to upgrade ?
[02:43] <salah> i don't get it
[02:43] <amphi> salah: this page may be of use: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[02:44] <amphi> ubotu, wireless is http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[02:44] <ubotu> ...but wireless is already something else...
[02:44] <amphi> !wireless
[02:44] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:44] <LinuxJones> salah: that broadcom card can use ndiswrapper in Breezy but their is native support in Dapper.
[02:44] <amphi> how do you append to an ubotu factoid?
[02:45] <tristan> LinuxJones, he is very new so I dont think he knows about ndiswrapper and Dapper
[02:46] <LinuxJones> tristan: ohh ok
[02:46] <amphi> salah: for now, you must use the windows driver, it seems, which needs a linux 'wrapper' called ndiswrapper
[02:46] <salah> My laptop is HP zv5320
[02:46] <salah> what actully I have to do for wireless connection
[02:46] <amphi> salah: have a look at linux-laptop.net and tuxmobil.org for your model of laptop
[02:47] <amphi> salah: suffer somwhat ;)
[02:47] <amphi> !laptop
[02:47] <ubotu> it has been said that laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[02:47] <rambo3> salah linuxjones answerd you
[02:47] <amphi> salah: you should probably not consider dapper for now
[02:48] <henry> hi all. can always get a funny ethernet to wireless adapter too and save hrs of fun if you have a funny wireless card like me
[02:49] <CarinArr> i gave up on my wireless
[02:49] <CarinArr> just pulled a 10m ethernet cable upstairs:)
[02:49] <amphi> henry: or just a cardbus wifi nic
[02:49] <amphi> CarinArr: what card?
[02:49] <CarinArr> a budget budget budget one
[02:49] <CarinArr> can't even remember what the make was now
[02:50] <amphi> CarinArr: ralink are the cheapest I've seen, and work well with linux, FWIW
[02:50] <henry> belkin ethernet Bridge works good too and priced at 50 bucks or so in Europe
[02:50] <CarinArr> the desktop one was a belkin something or other.. after trying to figure that one out it seemed that whatevermodelnumber.a didn't work, and whatevermodelnumber.b did work
[02:50] <CarinArr> obviously i had .a
[02:50] <henry> works well after firmware upgrade and all
[02:50] <amphi> heh
[02:50] <henry> out of the box nada worked
[02:50] <henry> as always :-)
[02:50] <CarinArr> yeah
[02:50] <henry> i just love technology
[02:50] <CarinArr> it's the law.
[02:50] <henry> yeah not sure why i didnt become a librarian instead
[02:50] <henry> or gardener
[02:51] <amphi> henry: my intel 2200bg worked easily; the one on my friend's ubuntu laptop worked outta the box, albeit the driver is an oldish version
[02:51] <LinuxJones> salah: here is a howto on the wiki >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28BCM43%29
[02:51] <henry> yeah intel stuff is good
[02:51] <henry> i was a cheapckate intially and bought conceptronic
[02:51] <salah> How can I do in Dapper
[02:51] <henry> works well on evil ms empire box
[02:51] <amphi> henry: they're working on master mode for the driver now ;)
[02:52] <chmod775> join #drupal
[02:52] <henry> typical for me to shell out money when a fix is close :-)
[02:52] <henry> got to create some jobs in Taiwan too :_)
[02:52] <amphi> henry: heh - was it master mode you needed?
[02:52] <henry> encryption died on me all the time
[02:52] <henry> behaved weirdly
[02:53] <henry> most likely it was me who sucked
[02:53] <henry> lol
[02:53] <kevin> how can i check my msn mail using evolution? or what mail client can I use to do that?
[02:53] <amphi> henry: many people have said you need to load the module with hwcrypto=0
[02:53] <henry> anyhow at least it behaved badly on both mandrake and ubuntu
[02:53] <henry> dont think I tried that
[02:53] <amphi> henry: well, to some extent wifi cards are the new winmodems ;)
[02:53] <henry> months ago since i poked around
[02:53] <LinuxJones> salah: Dapper is a developers version and stuff has a tendency to get messed up sometimes.
[02:54] <djp> is there a log kept of when the pc is shutdown or rebooted? for example, can you tell the difference, by using a log file, of when a machine was shutdown or rebooted?
[02:54] <henry> now i am poking around ruby instead :- more fun
[02:54] <Fredde> what are the hotkeys for changing workspace in ubuntu?
[02:54] <eav> hey guys
[02:54] <concept10> anyone have experience with bootchart?
[02:54] <snowblink> Fredde, ctrl+alt+ arrow keys
[02:54] <eav> I need some aid. I am somewhat a newbie at Linux and I am using Ubuntu at the office right now
[02:55] <Fredde> snowblink: thanks
[02:55] <snowblink> Fredde, or ctrl+alt+f keys if you mean ttys
[02:55] <_jason> eav: hi, just ask your question
[02:55] <kevin> how can i check my msn mail using evolution? or what mail client can I use to do that?
[02:55] <Aegir`> Fredde, Also ctrl+alt+shift to move the currently focussed window between virtual desktops
[02:55] <Fredde> snowblink: what is ttys?
[02:55] <Aegir`> Fredde, With the arrow keys ofcourse ;)
[02:56] <eav> but I am facing a problem. I would like install XFCE GUI at my computer but there are 2 libs which I don't find anywhere
[02:56] <_jason> Fredde: and system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts will let you change if you aren't as dexterous as the gnome devs, like me...
[02:56] <eav> the libs are xpimap and SM
[02:56] <damian_> issing "}"
[02:56] <damian_> ReadStyleSheet: missing style name
[02:56] <damian_> ReadStyleSheet: missing style number
[02:56] <damian_> ReadStyleSheet: missing "{"
[02:56] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:57] <snowblink> Fredde, terminals
[02:57] <Aegir`> The default keyboard config for workspace switching is excellent though for laptop users, who usually have their hands pretty close to the neccesary keys anyway
[02:57] <kevin> how can i check my msn mail using evolution? or what mail client can I use to do that?
[02:57] <LinuxJones> eav: can you jsut install the xubuntu-desktop package ?
[02:57] <henry> gaim can me used for msn e-mail notification and then check mail in browser as usual
[02:57] <henry> me=be
[02:57] <LinuxJones> eav: or is that what's broken ?
[02:57] <Fredde> snowblink: if I get inte to terminal workspaces, how do I get back to gnome?
[02:57] <Aegir`> kevin, You have to subscribe to the payed version of Hotmail to get a POP client to read your hotmail email. They reckon it's an 'anti-spam' measure.
[02:58] <MalfoeFor> doesn't msn support pop forwarding?
[02:58] <MalfoeFor> I know gmial does
[02:58] <MalfoeFor> gmail*
[02:58] <Aegir`> Hotmail doesn't
[02:58] <Aegir`> Not unless you pay moneys
[02:58] <MalfoeFor> what a pile of poo!
[02:58] <kevin> i have msn through qwest
[02:58] <eav> I didn't tried it. I am using the gnome right now
[02:58] <kevin> i shouldnt have to pay more no?
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <damian_> wats that mean in wine
[02:58] <_jason> damian_: stop
[02:59] <LinuxJones> damian_: stop
[02:59] <damian_> amian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> amian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <MalfoeFor> shouldn't have to pay at all. I suppose browser checking is the only option then :(
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <Aegir`> damian_, STOP THE MADNESS!
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <_jason> damian_: no one will help you and you will probably be banned soo if you don't stop
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> amian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <kevin> nah.. thats where your wrong...
[02:59] <_jason> !ops
[02:59] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <kevin> i can do it with outlook express..
[02:59] <damian_> amian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <kevin> or just outlook
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[02:59] <Aegir`> kevin, In that case you should be able to get it working, However since I can't even getat the features myself, I have no idea how to set it up
[02:59] <damian_> damian_ wats that mean in wine
[03:00] <kevin> i only need a email client that will support http
[03:00] <LinuxJones> Seveas: TY
[03:00] <Aegir`> Madness
[03:00] <ompaul> Seveas, just beat me
[03:00] <Aegir`> Seveas, You shall be my new god.
[03:00] <Aegir`> Or some such
[03:00] <ompaul> Aegir`, na he just wants you to use more ubuntu :)
[03:01] <Aegir`> I already do enough of that, ompaul.
[03:01] <Seveas> then sacrifice some virgins or whatever ;)
[03:01] <robinl1> i
[03:01] <robinl1> dont
[03:01] <robinl1> feel
[03:01] <robinl1> so
[03:01] <robinl1> good
[03:01] <robinl1> FLU SUCKS
[03:01] <amphi> !enter
[03:01] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:01] <Fredde> I'm having trouble geting on my windows shared files, at a other computer.How do I do that?
[03:02] <kevin> aegir..
[03:02] <Aegir`> kevin..
[03:02] <Aegir`> What?
[03:02] <kevin> go to synaptic and search for gotmail
[03:02] <kevin> i tried installing it earlier...
[03:02] <kevin> but i didnt know what to do afterwards
[03:02] <CuriousCat> ??? For a moment there I thought I was in ubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <Aegir`> kevin, That's not a full pop client though. I think it's just for checking if theres new email or not. Like what MSN clients do.
[03:03] <kevin> it says download i dunno
[03:03] <Aegir`> kevin, You should quite easilly be able to setup Hotmail to work with Evolution considering you are getting the payed service. I don't know how to do that, though.
[03:03] <CodyDH> Strange question. On my laptop, I require both ndiswrapper and the nvidia packages. If I update my kernel with apt-get or Synaptic, and available packages for ndiswrapper and nvidia are available for the new kernel, will they update? Or will they simply be viewed as a DIFFERENT package, and I'll have to do it by hand?
[03:04] <Seveas> CodyDH, when you upgrade to dapper: different packages, you need to reboot to use a new kernel
[03:05] <eav> I still can't get libSM and libXpm thru apt-get
[03:05] <btdown> Anyone seen FreeNx for dapper yet? Vnc is killing me. ;(
[03:05] <Seveas> !find libxpm
[03:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libxpm' (3 shown): libxpm-dev ;; libxpm4 ;; libxpm4-dbg.
[03:05] <CodyDH> Seveas: right... but will they update say "Oh, wow, ndiswrapper relies on the kernel, and since the old version was 2.6.12 and the new is 2.6.15, we should probably update that too."
[03:05] <Seveas> btdown, you could try apt-get source && dpkg-buildpackage
[03:06] <IdleOne> CodyDH:  it should but it doesnt mean it will
[03:06] <Seveas> CodyDH, Ubuntu packages for kernel and ndiswrapper/ati/nvidia are released at around the same time
[03:06] <btdown> seveas, I'm all for giving it a go...think it will be painful?
[03:06] <Seveas> during development (eg dapper now) there may be some difference
[03:06] <Seveas> btdown, yes
[03:06] <kyle_> why doesn't my winxp recover cd work now i put linux on?
[03:06] <bigfoot1> I have a bunch of files in one folder. I want to batch-edit the filenames, to remove a word that is in all of them. What should i do?
[03:07] <btdown> seveas, lol...well I'll give it a shot tonight. Thank you.
[03:07] <IdleOne> kyle_:  because you formated the drive and took XP off ..there isnt anything to recover from
[03:07] <_jason> bigfoot1: rename command, do you know regex?
[03:07] <kyle_> noooooooooooooo
[03:07] <Seveas> CodyDH, as long as the X in linux-image-a.b.c-X-arch stays the same, no new ndiswrapper/ati/nvidia packahe is needed
[03:07] <kyle_> so i'm stuck with linux forever
[03:07] <bigfoot1> _jason: i know nothing
[03:07] <IdleOne> kyle_:   no
[03:07] <_jason> bigfoot1: what is the word?
[03:07] <eav> but which files I have to dl and get those libs?
[03:07] <CodyDH> Seveas: right... Maybe I'm making this more complicated than it is, but for example in FC4, when I update with yum to a new kernel, even if the new ndis/nvidia packages are available, the tool doesn't know enough to update them, so when I restart I have no network connection and no X, unless I update them separately, beforehand.
[03:08] <bugworm> hello ?
[03:08] <_jason> bugworm: hi
[03:08] <bigfoot1> _jason: "_high"
[03:08] <kyle_> i don't care any way, i like linux...  even well i don't know how to use it
[03:08] <buan> am I too early using AMD64?
[03:08] <IdleOne> kyle_:  now is the time to learn ()
[03:08] <bigfoot1> kyle_: i'm with you
[03:08] <rambo3> CodyDH its same with ubuntu
[03:08] <bugworm> someone can help me to configure cups to manage it via web browser `?
[03:09] <IdleOne> kyle_:  you will find that you can do everything and more with linux then with windows
[03:09] <bigfoot1> IdleOne: nice emoticon! katakana?
[03:09] <CodyDH> rambo3: Ok. thank you.
[03:09] <Seveas> CodyDH, keep the linux-386 / linu-686 / linux-k7 package installed at all times and you'll have at least one booting kernel
[03:09] <IdleOne> bigfoot1:  yeah I think so
[03:09] <_jason> bigfoot1: cd to the directory and do: rename -n 's/_high//' *, that will do nothing and just show you what it is going to do.  If it is what you want, just run the command without the -n
[03:09] <Seveas> these metapackages overcome the limitations of apt-get (or yum)
[03:09] <MalfoeFor> hmm.. with gotomail I'm getting a "could not parse redirect location" ussue.. could they just be behind or the version is out of date?
[03:09] <kyle_> what about sequencer programs like Cubase SX
[03:09] <buan> webcam chat w/ linux... how-to?
[03:09] <CodyDH> Seveas: what is that package?
[03:09] <IdleOne> !webcam
[03:09] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[03:09] <bigfoot1> _jason: okie dokie. will try it
[03:10] <kyle_> is there any out there (for free)
[03:10] <foxpaul> is there an easy way to make all chars in a text file lowercase ?
[03:10] <bigfoot1> is there  something i could do, so that when i right click an open space in nautilus, i can click on a command that says "Run Terminal from this window" ?
[03:10] <LinuxJones> buan: amd64 runs well but there are things that don't work out of the box, like the flash plugin for instance.
[03:10] <buan> ubotu:nice
[03:10] <ubotu> buan: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <kyle_> why does most pcs come with only recover cds, they suck
[03:10] <rh1z0> hello
[03:10] <IdleOne> kyle_:  if you have a copy of windows 98 or ME install that then use your winXP recover cd to upgrade to XP but I dont know why you would want to
[03:11] <ompaul> CodyDH, if you use apt-get or synaptic you will be updating to the latest version of any package in the repositries you are open to recieving from - which is why it is a bad idea to just slap in random repos, you never know what version of what will come to you making whatever demands it wants with no regard to the existing installed system, this is why there is a thing called a "stable release" where things work together when you wor
[03:11] <ompaul> k outside of that you increase your own workload
[03:11] <_jason> foxpaul: sed, tr
[03:11] <kyle_> only cos of cubase sx]
[03:11] <rh1z0> just installed ubuntu for first time everything works fine brilliant
[03:11] <CodyDH> ompaul: I understand that part..
[03:11] <IdleOne> kyle_:  im sure there is an open source version
[03:11] <buan> ryte..
[03:11] <buan> many thanks
[03:11] <rh1z0> can i install apache server on it?
[03:12] <ompaul> CodyDH, then I misunderstood your question
[03:12] <buan> I' just got this new compaq M2246 amd T64
[03:12] <kyle_> have i got a good version of linux, or are they all the same
[03:12] <ompaul> rh1z0, yes,
[03:12] <rh1z0> thank you
[03:12] <CodyDH> ompaul: I was wondering what these "metapackages" that "overcome the limitations of apt-get" are...
[03:12] <buan> for starter got a prob w/ the ATI radeon
[03:12] <ompaul> kyle_, they are not all the same, this one is best until you go to another channel where theirs is best etc
[03:12] <IdleOne> kyle_:  you got ubuntu right?
[03:13] <buan> then having my broadcom up and runnin
[03:13] <bigfoot1> _jason: thank you. how long have you been using linux? and how'd you know that rename command? and how come you asked me if i knew regex?
[03:13] <kyle_> yes
[03:13] <IdleOne> kyle_:  you are good to go
[03:13] <kyle_> cool
[03:13] <ompaul> CodyDH, ubuntu-desktop is one, it is just a list of the many packages you would need to make a reasonable desktop all in one
[03:13] <rh1z0> anyone know a good mp3 player for ubuntu
[03:13] <kyle_> how do i get dvds to work
[03:13] <IdleOne> !dvd
[03:13] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:13] <ompaul> CodyDH, you can remove one and it does not remove the packages it installed
[03:13] <CodyDH> ompaul: OK. So in essence, what I said I have to do in Fedora is basically "what has to be done," for now.
[03:13] <kyle_> Totem doesn't work that well
[03:14] <pappan> the display by mplayer is jumpy.. ne ideas how i can correct it ?
[03:14] <_jason> bigfoot1: 5 months; I needed to do what you wanted too once and searched google :); regex is great to know, google for some nice tutorials or try 'man 7 regex'
[03:14] <buan> but everything else looks fine..
[03:14] <pappan> or rahter slow
[03:14] <LinuxJones> pappan: dma is probably turned off on your hard drive.
[03:14] <amphi> pappan: what driver are you using? try mplayer -vo xv
[03:14] <_jason> bigfoot1: regex lets you match patters.  In your case it was easy because the patter was just '_high'
[03:14] <buan> about to try out connection to my N6585 using cable data
[03:14] <dejx> re
[03:14] <pappan> i saw SSE and similar off
[03:15] <bigfoot1> _jason: i tihnk i understand what you're saying
[03:15] <dejx> i'm new in ubuntu linux distribution, and so far, so good
[03:15] <bigfoot1> 5 months and you know this. _jason. awesome
[03:15] <ompaul> CodyDH, forgetting about fc - if you ignore your wireless or fancy binary drivers everything else will keep itself up to date
[03:15] <pappan> amphi: thank you i will try it
[03:15] <LinuxJones> dejx: welcome aboard :D
[03:15] <CodyDH> ompaul: Right.
[03:15] <ompaul> CodyDH, when they are impacted then you have to redo the steps for them
[03:16] <kyle_> how do i get my line6 guitarport to work in linux
[03:16] <ompaul> Seveas, u okay for  of an hour?
[03:16] <ompaul> :)
[03:16] <kyle_> is there a linux version of the software
[03:16] <dejx> kyle_,  you play guitar? wo dude!!!
[03:16] <bigfoot1> i made a py file. how do i run it?
[03:16] <dejx> so do i, but i have Boss gt-8
[03:17] <argon> line6 is king!
[03:17] <kyle_> yes, i want my guitarport to work in linux
[03:17] <LinuxJones> bigfoot1: python file.py
[03:17] <ompaul> bigfoot1, python FOO.py is one way
[03:17] <kyle_> somehow
[03:17] <mikelo> my games are running slower than when I first installed ubuntu
[03:17] <LinuxJones> mikelo: 3d games ?
[03:18] <BiSK-8> hello,  i need help with my ubuntu: when i try 2 download a mpg, ov or mpeg movie, insead of downloading it playes it on my firefox, what do i do?
[03:18] <kyle_> i bone linux
[03:18] <ompaul> kyle_, language, please
[03:18] <kyle_> sorry
[03:18] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones: ompaul. thanks
[03:18] <mikelo> LinuxJones, yes
[03:18] <kyle_> but i do
[03:18] <dejx> Well i was wondering one thing, is there any tool like Borland Builder ?
[03:18] <mikelo> LinuxJones, like planetpenguin racer
[03:18] <nemi> BiSK-8, right click the link
[03:19] <dejx> for graphic programming in linux (gtk,..) ? drag method.
[03:19] <BiSK-8> 1 sec
[03:19] <kyle_> why can't houses be free like linux, why can't the world be free
[03:19] <LinuxJones> mikelo: I used to have to set xserver to use 16 bit color rather than 24. It made a huge difference in fps in say Quake3 and is not really that big a deal depending on the quality of your display.
[03:19] <alynx> kyle_: hehe agreed
[03:19] <_jason> kyle_: blame human nature
[03:19] <bigfoot1> where can i learn all the commands that will wean me off nautilus (e.g. directory listing, sorting by filesize, by date modified, etc)
[03:19] <dejx> kyle_ world is free, out lifestyles are expensive
[03:19] <BiSK-8> nemi, thx didnt think of that
[03:19] <dejx> our.
[03:20] <nemi> BiSK-8, or use 'copy link location' & use wget in a terminal
[03:20] <ploom> dejx, haven't you tried eclipse - it works everywhere, builds even swt (next to swing and awt as long as I remember)
[03:20] <kyle_> i bone linux
[03:20] <IdleOne> !cli
[03:20] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[03:20] <kyle_> i have an idea!!!
[03:20] <nemi> kyle_, don't be a tard
[03:20] <LinuxJones> kyle_: you were already told to cool it once.
[03:20] <eav> cya
[03:20] <IdleOne> kyle_:  this is a pg rated channel please speak accordingly
[03:20] <mikelo> LinuxJones, where's x's config file?
[03:21] <dejx> So nobody cant give me suggestion for me?
[03:21] <bigfoot1> IdleOne: thanks
[03:21] <kyle_> every linux user should become a hippie
[03:21] <kyle_> like me
[03:21] <IdleOne> bigfoot1:  np
[03:21] <nemi> dejx, about what?
[03:21] <kyle_> and make money for free
[03:21] <LinuxJones> mikelo: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:21] <dejx> Well i was wondering one thing, is there any tool like Borland Builder (in win*)
[03:21] <dejx> for graphic programming in linux (gtk,..) ? drag method.
[03:21] <bigfoot1> fellow rythymbox users; i like RB, but when i move my audio to a different folder, RB loses all meta info (rating, times played, etc), is there a solution?
[03:22] <nemi> dejx, glade perhaps
[03:22] <MalfoeFor> latest version of getmail works correctly, all you need now is to chron it and then use a client to look at the ouput file http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gotmail/gotmail-<IP_ADDRESS>.zip?use_mirror=kent
[03:22] <Mabus06> How do I open file-roller as root? I get errors?
[03:22] <dejx> kyle_, look at my rig ( http://freeweb.siol.net/rpeteli1/.tmp/basement.jpg ) and now i bought Boss GT-8
[03:22] <dejx> nemi thanks, I'll look around for documentation.
[03:23] <kyle_> that's kool, good sh_t
[03:23] <Fredde> Wich ports should I open on my d-link 604 to use bittorrent
[03:23] <ompaul> kyle_, in a word - no
[03:23] <bigfoot1> can someone take a look at a small python file that was created to download a file off the internet, please? (It's only 766 bytes!)
[03:23] <MalfoeFor> depends on the bt client
[03:23] <bigfoot1> coz i'm having problems running it.
[03:23] <kyle_> i play a gibson lespaul junior (the old one)
[03:23] <im_a_muslim> As Salaam e laikum (means: peace b upon u) .............. http://www.submission.org/ .......... [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful     [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.     [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.     [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.     [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[03:24] <mikelo> LinuxJones, is this it?
[03:24] <mikelo> Section "Screen"
[03:24] <mikelo> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[03:24] <mikelo> 	Device		"Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device"
[03:24] <mikelo> 	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
[03:24] <mikelo> 	DefaultDepth	24
[03:24] <nemi> im_a_muslim, no 'big beard in the sky' theories please
[03:24] <MalfoeFor> bittornado for example allows you to select the ports you use, so then open the relevant ones
[03:24] <IdleOne> im_a_muslim:  thanks for that. need any ubuntu help?
[03:24] <kyle_> this linux copy only cost me 230 from a pc shop in Solihull
[03:24] <LinuxJones> mikelo: defaultdepth yeah , but please don't paste in here use pastebin.ca then post the link here in irc.
[03:24] <mikelo> sorry 4 the long paste
[03:24] <_jason> mikelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:25] <nemi> kyle_, damn,  you got a  discount
[03:25] <kyle_> i know
[03:25] <GTX> Where will there be a .deb upgrade for the X 7.00 ?
[03:25] <kyle_> bargain
[03:25] <kyle_> i wish it was free like windows xp
[03:25] <IdleOne> kyle_:  you paid for ubuntu?
[03:25] <kyle_> yep
[03:25] <IdleOne> heh
[03:25] <Seveas> GTX, for breezy: never
[03:26] <LinuxJones> kyle_: stop your trolling
[03:26] <CodyDH> Another random question. When the next version of Ubuntu comes out, will it be simple enough to use apt to update to it, or will it require a reinstall?
[03:26] <nemi> IdleOne, don't feed the troll
[03:26] <IdleOne> nemi:  when you feed them they do tricks
[03:26] <nemi> IdleOne, heh
[03:27] <mikelo> LinuxJones, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[03:27] <Mabus06> What sort of permissions do I have to worry about for adding files to an archive? And will the people who download/extract my archive be able to use it?
[03:27] <GTX> Seveas, How come?
[03:27] <Seveas> GTX, because breezy is stable and final. Only security updates will enter breezy
[03:28] <bigfoot1> LinuxJones: do you have time to take check out a small 766 byte py file for me, please?
[03:28] <GTX> Seveas, Im assuming there will be more versions of ubuntu coming out with different names, will people be able to upgrade to these ? or will people need to reinstall?
[03:28] <Seveas> GTX, no reinstalling - reinstalling sucks. This is Ubuntu, not Red Hat/Suse
[03:29] <GTX> hah D:
[03:29] <GTX> Seveas, so when another version of ubuntu comes out we can just upgrade? and that might include X 7.00 ?
[03:29] <nemi> Seveas, ;)
[03:29] <rambo3> i think it will need step wise upgrade 1>>2 >>3 not 1>>3
[03:29] <Mabus06> I can't seem to add a file to an archive I started as root (with sudo)
[03:29] <Bandit101> Seveas cant you upgrade suse?
[03:29] <Seveas> gtx, yes we can and yes it does
[03:30] <Seveas> Bandit101, hang on
[03:30] <Zoroaster> ok
[03:30] <ufo> how do i change the permission on ntfs drive for regular users?
[03:30] <GTX> Seveas,  Fantastic, I got some idiots which run Suse saying I cant
[03:30] <Zoroaster> yesterday I let synaptic upgrade my kernel
[03:30] <Zoroaster> now my vmware does not work
[03:30] <Zoroaster> is that something that one should not do unless something is broeken?
[03:30] <Seveas> Bandit101, ah lost the link... but anyway: it's hell to try that
[03:30] <GTX> Zoroaster, might be the header files of the kernal
[03:31] <Seveas> suse upgrading means uninstalling half your system, trying to reinstall a quarter od it and finally giving up and reinstalling
[03:31] <GTX> Thought so Seveas  :)
[03:31] <Seveas> ufo, mount it properly (ie with umask=0222 in the mount options)
[03:31] <stu> vmware install script compiles drivers for VMNET0x that depend on your kernel version and headers - run "sudo vmware-configure"
[03:31] <Zoroaster> GTX, vmware says the vmmodule or something is not there, do I want make one
[03:31] <Zoroaster> so then I do what it says
[03:31] <Quinch> Can someone tell me how to install DRI?
[03:31] <Bandit101> Seveas I see interesting
[03:32] <ufo> Seveas: ok... thx
[03:32] <ploom> GTX, I have upgared from hoary to breezy previously on two computers, no big problems arised...
[03:32] <GTX> Zoroaster, run the install again, It shouldnt override your data
[03:32] <GTX> Good to know ploom : D
[03:32] <Zoroaster> ok, I'll try that
[03:32] <GTX> Is it possible to connect to multiple servers on xchat?
[03:32] <mikelo> i'm back
[03:32] <GTX> as I've got like 5 different xchat's open
[03:32] <mikelo> GTX yes
[03:32] <rambo3> GTX yea
[03:32] <GTX> lol how
[03:33] <Seveas> GTX, /newserver
[03:33] <GTX>  ta
[03:33] <GTX> brb then :D
[03:34] <GTX> Better :)
[03:34] <Mabus06> Why do you remove operator status from yourself?
[03:34] <Mabus06> What's wrong with being an op?
[03:35] <Seveas> Mabus06, a lot
[03:35] <GTX> maybe so people dont pm them asking for help all the time
[03:35] <mikelo> LinuxJones, didn't change much
[03:35] <GTX> so people think there's no admins in here
[03:35] <GTX> or something
[03:35] <pm> pm what?????????????
[03:35] <Seveas> GTX, the first one
[03:35] <GTX> hehe :)
[03:36] <topyli> GTX: you want one? :)
[03:36] <pudland> can someone point me to an "how to" to revert back to the original 5.10 GFX driver setup after installing fglrx???????? pls help
[03:36] <Mabus06> So can nobody help me with my file-roller questions?
[03:37] <Seveas> pudland, remove fglrx again and change "fglrx" back to "ati" in xorg.conf
[03:37] <pudland> seveas, remove using synaptic or manually?
[03:37] <Seveas> depends on how you installed it
[03:38] <rikai> Apparently 10gb isnt enough for my / partition o.o;
[03:38] <pudland> seveas, manually
[03:38] <mzuverink> I have fetchmail running for my user, it checks mail for one pop account and everytime 10 minutes, when it checks the mail I get an email confirming the check.  How can I make it not send the email?
[03:38] <Seveas> pudland, manually installed .deb files or others?
[03:39] <GTX> Now I got all my servers in 1 xchat /me will allways try and help people in here :D
[03:39] <pudland> seveas, it was actually the ati drivers from an ubuntuforum how-to
[03:39] <ufo> how do i use the new fstab without restart
[03:40] <Quinch> UFO, you mean for mounting? Try "mount -a".
[03:40] <ufo> Quinch: thx
[03:40] <Seveas> pudland, forum howtos often are crap, better use the wiki next time...
[03:41] <Quinch> Ufo, thank me if it works, not before. I'm a newbie.
[03:41] <lawrence> I'm downloading kubuntu
[03:41] <pudland> seveas, hmmmm, kk.  using ati's config, are there certain files that need to be removed?
[03:41] <ycs> hey
[03:41] <reza> hey
[03:41] <reza> what is root pass?
[03:41] <Seveas> pudland, the easiest way to 'reset' the X configuration is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:41] <Quinch> Can someone please tell me what the message "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." means? I get that whenever I try running something that involves 3D graphics acceleration.
[03:41] <Seveas> !tell reza about root
[03:42] <lawrence> my root password is boxx224
[03:42] <Seveas> pudland, that won't remove any files but they won't harm
[03:42] <reza> how you now the root
[03:42] <bigfoot1> why does a tutorial for linux recommend not embedding spaces in filenames (Use underscores instead, it says)?
[03:42] <lawrence> Quinch, I think you need to get authentic Nvidia/ATI drivers installed
[03:42] <Quinch> Lawrence, dude... never. Ever. EVER. Tell someone your password. That goes double for root.
[03:42] <pudland> seveas, that would revert xorg back to "ati" and system defaults?
[03:42] <Seveas> bigfoot1, because it's quite easy to forget to escape spaces in commands
[03:42] <ycs> dopy now i can hak your compter thanks for the root passowrd box
[03:42] <Seveas> pudland, yep
[03:43] <dyrne> bigfoot1: unless you want to have to type file\ name for each space..
[03:43] <bigfoot1> Seveas: "escape spaces"? what's that?
[03:43] <reza> but how you get root pass:P
[03:43] <lawrence> haha.. that isn't my real root password.. someone just asked what the root password was..
[03:43] <bigfoot1> dyrne: pardon?
[03:43] <reza> i have ubuntu but cant install anything
[03:43] <lawrence> reza, you tell Linux your root password when it is installed
[03:43] <reza> lol
[03:43] <Seveas> reza, read the link ubotu sent you
[03:43] <pudland> seveas, glxgears was giving me around 300fps prior to breaking my system.  After the install it would bog once my cpu hit 100%
[03:43] <bigfoot1> dyrne: ok. let's say i have a file called I Love You.txt.
[03:44] <dyrne> bigfoot1: the '\ ' tells it there is a space. for instance 'file name' or file\ name will work
[03:44] <IdleOne> when I try to start totem I get an error saying that totem is already being used but Im not using it. how do i kill totem?
[03:44] <dyrne> bigfoot1: I\ Love\ You.txt
[03:44] <Seveas> IdleOne, killall totem
[03:44] <Quinch> LAwrence, is installing ATI's own drivers a good idea? From what I've overheard, they're... less than great.
[03:44] <reza> dont see any
[03:44] <reza> link
[03:44] <IdleOne> Seveas:  thank you
[03:44] <bigfoot1> dyrne: ahhh! now i see.
[03:44] <Seveas> Quinch, it's not bad - just make sure you install them properly
[03:44] <reza> when i start linux i must do a pass is that the root pas?
[03:44] <bigfoot1> so i guess it's good to avoid spaces in filenames, eh?
[03:44] <lawrence> I think it's like this \I love you/.text or something
[03:44] <Seveas> reza, read the link ubotu sent you!
[03:44] <Quinch> Seveas: Oh, I'm doomed then.
[03:45] <reza> thanks i saw it first time sorry
[03:45] <Seveas> Quinch, of course, we all are
[03:45] <ufo> my language characters are missing on ntfs what should i do in mount options?
[03:45] <lawrence> Quinch, I don't really know.. I just assumed that because they made the hardware, they would make good drivers.. though probably not.. I use nVidia
[03:46] <m3phistos> hello! can someone tell me how to create a keybinding for an aplication with kde?
[03:46] <BiSK-8> is there anyway i can see wmv videos on ubuntu
[03:46] <Quinch> Seveas: I managed to literally lose an entire partition about a week back. I found out yesterday that I somehow managed to copy them into /mount and the mounted folder masked them.
[03:46] <Seveas> Quinch, rofl :D
[03:46] <reza> so nobody had root pasS:P
[03:46] <reza> lol
[03:46] <dyrne> ubuntu: tell BiSK-8 about w32codecs
[03:46] <reza> oke thanks
[03:46] <lawrence> hahah!!
[03:46] <reza> Seveas
[03:46] <dyrne> ubotu: tell BiSK-8 about w32codecs
[03:46] <IdleOne> Seveas:  would running a program with wine affect totam?
[03:46] <Seveas> ufo, use nls=utf8 as mount option
[03:46] <Quinch> Seveas: That should give you some idea of how talented I am when it comes to doing things "properly".
[03:47] <Seveas> IdleOne, not that I know of
[03:47] <ufo> Seveas: ok thx
[03:47] <m3phistos> seveas: are you sure it is the root password you need? because ubuntu generaly use SUDO
[03:47] <Seveas> m3phistos, que?
[03:47] <IdleOne> $ killall totem
[03:47] <IdleOne> totem: no process killed
[03:47] <IdleOne> but still get the same error
[03:47] <Seveas> I don't need no stinking root password
[03:47] <Quinch> Question: Is Ubuntu x86 or x86_64?
[03:47] <reza> :P
[03:47] <Seveas> Quinch, both, and also ppc
[03:47] <lawrence> onetime I chowned the /usr directory to my username (well, it was one of those one root depends on)..
[03:48] <lawrence> I was LOCKED OUT OF ROOT..
[03:48] <lawrence> had to put SuSE on..
[03:48] <Seveas>
[03:48] <lawrence> now I'm back to ubuntu