 Any progress in Unity8/Lomiri in Local Fossa (20.04)?
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 it'll take a while tbh, that was announced when ota 16 came out iirc
 i want only Unity8 in my Desktop PC
 that's gonna take while, there are not enoughs hands in general atm
 there are works towards Lomiri on other distros like debian so that's good … I think next step would be to make all parts of Lomiri nice to use on desktops
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 I just opened ubports.com
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 Hey Guys, just a short question, … does ubuntu touch works on the nexus 5x aswell as on the nexus 5?
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 @Tagawasak [/notes], There are no notes to ping here - what do you want to know?
 Hello guys, I have a dumb question. … If I install libertine container does it use background processes that drains battery when I'm not using it?
 it should not know, anbox however is known for that
 no, as far as I know libertine apps are still bound with the same app lifecycle … so apps are suspended when in the background … also, any background processes are only installed in the container so those won't run in the system
 @Mattia990 [Hello guys, I have a dumb question. …  If I install libertine container does it use …], [Edit] Not in my experience - there has been no additiomal battery drain after installing apps in Libertine
 a "dumb" question would be if ut runs on a toaster badum tss
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 [Edit] a "dumb" question would be "does ut run on a toaster?" badum tss
 Understand, thanks guys! … So if I install also anbox, android processes will always run in background because it is not chrooted right?
 not sure why anbox is draining the battery btw
 if we knew that maybe we could fix it xD
 which reminds me, i was trying to fix something on my ut device slides away
[17:25] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> @TotalSonic [There are no notes to ping here - what do you want to know?], My bad, i clicked on a remark with notes and it posted automatically...
 @Fuseteam [if we knew that maybe we could fix it xD], Btw there is a fund for anbox, there is an android engineer that is trying to "fix" anbox and give it a new life😂
 @Mattia990 [Btw there is a fund for anbox, there is an android engineer that is trying to "f …], i know, the funders are in this group :)
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> Noob question about privacy here: when you sync the calendar with a google account. Does this make the app let google communicate with other apps in ut? Or is every app boxed?
 you can control what apps "communicate" with google in your online account settings. only the apps that you give calendar access to google will have calendar access. tldr; yes it is limited to the apps you select
[17:33] <ubptgbot> <Jan Dierickx> OK, thx!
 @Fuseteam [a "dumb" question would be "does ut run on a toaster?" badum tss], You mean it doesn't? 😪
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 @Stereofont [You mean it doesn't? 😪], Surely that depends on the toaster? I mean, if it's currently running Android and there is a port for it... 😏
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 @Stereofont [You mean it doesn't? 😪], 😔
 @klaartje_b [Surely that depends on the toaster? I mean, if it's currently running Android an …], ayyyy true 😏
[20:46] <ubptgbot> <Hand Feger> I found a smart toaster with a screen. 😅
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 how do we make the system read/write?
 i forgot
 touch .writeable
 or you can do it in settings
 or ut tweak tool
 i remember there being a one liner
 from the terminal
 [Edit] touch ~/.writeable
 yeah there is one uh
 `sudo mount / -o remount,rw`
 do note that remounting to rw is mostly there for testing changes, it not recommended to try to install packages in this way
 @Fuseteam [do note that remounting to rw is mostly there for testing changes, it not recomm …], i know
 For users of the MeWe social media site - it recently stopped working with both Morph and the MeWe Mobile webapp - but  I was able to update my MeWe UT webapp with a new user agent string, and it is working well now, with scaling displaying correctly now as well.  The only issue is that it requires you to enter your password each time.
[21:19] <ubptgbot>   Otherwise this site is  a good alternative to Facebook, in that it  does not  do advertising  (apart from those for its own premium subscriptions), and it does not do data-mining.  https://open-store.io/app/meweut.totalsonic
 you can store cookies to save your session iirc
 lemme see if can find the flag
 https://gitlab.com/XiaoFuse/chrome-remote-desktop/-/blob/master/crd.desktop#L6
 @Fuseteam [you can store cookies to save your session iirc], I had it marked to store cookies in Webapp Creator but seems that feature is broken.  An update to my webapp with this properly added would be appreciated!, as I don't really know how to code these things.
 do you have a repo or something?
 @Fuseteam [do you have a repo or something?], No - just the click - I made this with Webapp Creator.
 all you need, iirc, is the `--store-session-cookies` flag in your desktop file https://t.me/ubports/336722
 @TotalSonic [No - just the click - I made this with Webapp Creator.], ah i see hmm
[21:24] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @TotalSonic [For users of the MeWe social media site - it recently stopped working with both …], Thank you Steven. I just download your last version, and it works. But as you said, I need to sign in on each login and resolve and double capcha... Also I'm not able to access to the message part. But it's a really nice progress anyway.
[21:24] <ubptgbot>  Thank you very much!! 😉
 also steve and steven are typing........nice
 ok - will have  to try and learn how to deal with actually coding the webapp, unless someone can take a look at the code and fix it - but that  will have to wait - seriously busy these days.
[21:25] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Despite >6000 km between us... lol
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 well its not really coding yet
 @Fuseteam [well its not really coding yet], True.  I think I could learn to add these things, just need to put some time into it
 i can try and fix it but uh i think i will need to help you setup a repo first
 i don't exactly want to setup upstream repo when its technically your work :P
 @Fuseteam [i can try and fix it but uh i think i will need to help you setup a repo first], I won't be able to do that today - but when I do I will let  you know!
 alright 👍
 @Fuseteam [i don't exactly want to setup upstream repo when its technically your work :P], well, it's barely any work that I did - but if it saves someone else a half hour is all good by me
 *sigh* Gee, I love this community. 😍
 @TotalSonic [well, it's barely any work that I did - but if it saves someone else a half hour …], gotta start somewhere 😏
 me and my bigmouth it does have that flag already..... i still think setting up a repo can do it good
 @Fuseteam [me and my bigmouth it does have that flag already..... i still think setting up …], weird that it isn't working then
 yeah weird
 is this a Morph problem then?
 @klaartje_b [*sigh* Gee, I love this community. 😍], It is indeed pretty awesome
 no idea atm actually
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[00:18] <Quintasan> I'm going to bed. Good night Ladies and Gentleman
[01:00] <ChogyDan> I'm trying to put a kernel into a ppa, and I'm getting ABI errors.  Do I have to pack the ABI files in with the source?  I know when building it locally, I could d/l the ABI files...
[01:12] <jmarsden> ChogyDan: Buildd's have no Internet access during the build process.  By design.
[01:13] <ChogyDan> fair enough, but I don't know what to do regardless
[01:15] <jmarsden> ChogyDan: Look at how the official Ubuntu kernel packages do things, and do it that way.  I guarantee they do not go out and grab stuff from the Internet during package building.  So your kernel paclages should not need to do that either.
[01:16] <wgrant> ChogyDan: IIRC there's a script that you run to grab the latest ABI files and put them in the source.
[01:17] <wgrant> Or you enable PPA mode, which disables the ABI check and uses something different.
[01:17] <wgrant> Although that might not exist any more; I haven't done it for 18 months.
[01:17] <ChogyDan> wgrant: how do I enable ppa mode?  ok.  Well, I will try packing in the ABI files, see if that works
[02:13] <doctormo> Hey everyone, I'm getting an error when I tried to include a postinst script into my package.
[02:13] <doctormo>  dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed post-installation script: Exec format error
[02:14] <doctormo> I thought the postinst was just a bash script, am I wrong?
[02:17] <wgrant> doctormo: The postinst has to be an executable of some kind. Are you missing a #!/bin/sh?
[02:23] <doctormo> I was
[03:36] <ScottL_> anyone care to give some pointers for using debhelper 7 style format?
[07:53] <zooko> ScottK: the last feature of Tahoe-LAFS is in trunk now. And it kicks ass! http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2010-January/003723.html
[07:53] <zooko> But I must sleep...
[07:53] <zooko> I'll be back on IRC tomorrow!
[10:19] <kklimonda> can I merge packaging branch with a full branch somehow?
[10:42] <kklimonda> anyone familiar with "distributed development" online? I have few questions
[10:43] <geser> sort of familiar, I've done some successful merges with it
[10:43] <kklimonda> geser, are there plans to drop debian/patches/ in favour of branches?
[10:44] <geser> that I don't know
[10:44] <randomaction> I think these are *very* remove plans
[10:45] <kklimonda> geser, is there an easy way of working with both "full" branches and and branches that contain only debian/ directory or do I have to diff them by hand?
[10:45] <kklimonda> also can I get branches for all packages uploaded to -proposed and -security?
[10:45] <geser> I've only used the packaging branches from LP till now
[10:46] <kklimonda> (I've tried lp:ubuntu/<package>/karmic-security and lp:ubuntu/karmic-security/[package] and neither works)
[10:46] <geser> the second one should work
[10:46] <geser> have you a package name with an upload to security at hand?
[10:46] <kklimonda> transmission
[10:49] <geser> hmm, apparently no -security branches (see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission)
[10:51] <kklimonda> weird
[10:51] <kklimonda> django have -security branches so it would seem that it's dependant on developer.. but aren't those branches created automatically?
[10:52] <geser> yes, but I don't know how it's triggered as it runs "external" to LP itself
[10:56] <geser> or not so external as I just found out
[11:05] <wgrant> geser: "not so external"?
[11:06] <geser> I found an loggerhead branch mentioning package-import.ubuntu.com but it was 2 years old
[11:07] <geser> wgrant: do you know how bundled this package-import.ubuntu.com is with LP itself?
[11:07] <wgrant> It is external. It checks LP regularly for new uploads.
[11:07] <wgrant> It's not part of LP. It uses the public API and bzr to communicate.
[11:08] <jetienne> q. im writing a /etc/init.d script..  where can i get info on the language between ### BEGIN INIT INFO and ### END INIT INFO
[11:13] <jetienne> http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts got it
[11:21] <Laney> what does that mean?
[11:21] <Laney> oh, no channel ctcps I guess
[11:22] <tsimpson> yeah, except for /me
[11:22] <geser> Laney: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml explains them
[11:23] <Laney> got it
[13:52] <kklimonda> can I append ubuntu version to the version string generated by bzr builder/dailydeb ?
[13:55] <RainCT> norsetto: I'm running Sid here and it's really not that scary :)
[13:57] <norsetto> RainCT, oh, I'm not afraid of that, just to screw up since what I'm running now is a kind of monster-patch system, loosely based on hardy
[15:25] <kemmotar> hi all! what you do? can i join your team? (sorry for my bad english)
[15:29] <randomaction> kemmotar: see links in the channel topic
[15:30] <ari-tczew> randomaction, are you bored?
[15:30] <randomaction> ari-tczew: not too much :)
[15:30] <ari-tczew> want to sponsor?
[15:32] <randomaction> I can ack a sync for gambas2 :)
[15:32] <ari-tczew> are you sure?
[15:32] <ari-tczew> yesterday I have checked patch  with upstream
[15:33] <ari-tczew> code aren't the same
[15:35] <randomaction> ok, let's look
[15:35] <randomaction> snprintf(ctx, sizeof(ctx), "%.2g", THIS->doc->getPDFMajorVersion () + THIS->doc->getPDFMinorVersion() / 10.0);
[15:36] <randomaction> %.2g prints a floating-point number. The floating-point number is supplied in the next argument.
[15:36] <randomaction> snprintf(ctx, sizeof(ctx), "%d.%d", THIS->doc->getPDFMajorVersion () + THIS->doc->getPDFMinorVersion() / 10.0);
[15:36] <randomaction> %d prints an integer, so two integers should be supplied
[15:37] <randomaction> instead, one floating-point number is supplied
[15:37] <ari-tczew> so what's the conclusion?
[15:37] <randomaction> that replacing the first line with the second is not a good idea
[15:38] <ari-tczew> ok, give me a moment, I'll convert request to sync
[15:45] <ari-tczew> randomaction, bug 514755
[16:00] <ari-tczew> could lm-sensors backport from lucid to karmic?
[16:04] <randomaction> ari-tczew: done gambas2
[16:32] <ari-tczew> requestsync is bugged
[16:32] <ari-tczew> lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed
[16:35] <geser> argh, a 2nd occurance of this :(
[16:36] <ari-tczew> randomaction, thanks
[16:37] <geser> ari-tczew: the bug itself got filed, you just need to "finish" like subscribe the sponsoring team
[16:38] <ari-tczew> huh? which bug is filed?
[16:38] <ari-tczew> ahh, you mean by requestsync
[16:38] <geser> your sync request
[16:38] <ari-tczew> I know
[16:39] <ari-tczew> randomaction just give an ACK, so no problem ;-)
[16:39] <ari-tczew> btw. do you will fix this issue, geser?
[16:40] <Quintasan> fabrice_sp: FYI, most of the rdepends of liblo built fine, didn't test all of them tough
[16:40] <geser> I plan to. I only know a possible reason for this so I can only hope my fix will really fix it
[16:49] <ari-tczew> is there any statistic (LP) who did upload the most packages? just like top10 or something
[16:50] <geser> there was in the past
[16:51] <randomaction> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors gives some idea, especially soyuz karma
[16:53] <ari-tczew> lol, stupid tool, e.g. Martin Mai has only 5 packages uploaded
[16:54] <ari-tczew> ups, I'm looking on wrong field! sorry!
[16:55]  * iulian wonders where emgent is.
[17:25] <kklimonda> hmm, when I do bzr merge-package tags aren't merged (i.e. only tags from ubuntu branch are present in a working branch)
[17:25] <kklimonda> works fine when I use normal merge
[18:02] <ari-tczew> does MOTU have official logo?
[18:04] <ari-tczew> like this: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/1516491/motu-image-2.png
[18:04] <ari-tczew> anybody have bigger image than this?
[18:26] <fabrice_sp> Quintasan, cool: we will just have to upload build1 versions after sync of liblo. Thanks for taking care of that check ;-)
[18:29] <Quintasan> fabrice_sp: do you mind uploading it? My connection is pretty screwd now and I have lags even when typing :S
[18:30] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: fabrice wrote after sync
[18:31] <fabrice_sp> Quintasan, it's a sync, right?
[18:31] <ari-tczew> so no this time
[18:32] <Quintasan> urgh, looks like broken central heating affect my reading ability
[18:32] <Quintasan> @_@
[18:32] <fabrice_sp> too hot?
[18:32] <Quintasan> too cold
[18:32] <Quintasan> :/
[18:33] <Quintasan> too hot wouldn't be a problem since I could open the door to garden :P
[18:34] <fabrice_sp> right! If we begin to see repeated caracters, we will ping you to keep you awake :-D
[18:34] <Quintasan> lol :D
[18:40] <geser> fabrice_sp: lliikkee tthhiiss??
[18:40] <fabrice_sp> geser, ping
[18:40] <fabrice_sp> :-P
[18:40] <geser> there is a bug in lucid which causes this?
[18:41] <geser> s/?//
[18:42] <geser> just set the delay to "repeat keys" to it's minimum value and this will happen
[18:48] <fabrice_sp> oh, right: remember seing the discussion in ubuntu-devel
[18:53] <geser> can someone access here https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hypre
[18:54] <hyperair> no permissions
[18:54]  * geser files a bug then
[18:55] <fabrice_sp> yes I can
[18:55] <fabrice_sp> geser, ^
[18:55] <geser> hmm, interesting
[18:56] <fabrice_sp> only when unlogged
[18:56] <fabrice_sp> when I log in, no permission
[19:02] <geser> thanks, added that info to the bug
[19:03] <ScottL> fabrice_sp, when you looked at zynjacku in REVU you mentioned some files were LGPL, how could you tell?
[19:04] <fabrice_sp> click on the legal link
[19:04] <fabrice_sp> ScottL, ^
[19:06] <fabrice_sp> or use licensecheck
[19:07] <geser> DktrKranz: do you know if we can get a newer gpsd into lucid? some other packages are in DEPWAIT on a newer libgps-dev
[19:08] <DktrKranz> geser: I'll have a look with bzed
[19:08] <fabrice_sp> geser,  bug 508013
[19:14] <ScottL> thanks fabrice_sp...I'm learning more and more stuff :)
[19:15] <fabrice_sp> :-D
[19:17] <ari-tczew> geser, so what's the conclusion about gpsd? we can sync it from testing?
[19:19] <geser> not unless DktrKranz or bzed give their OK
[19:24] <ScottL> fabrice_sp, you also mentioned using debhelper 7 format, but I had trouble finding explicative information, can you suggest somewhere to learn more about it?
[19:25] <Laney> man dh
[19:25] <fabrice_sp> ScottL, /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.tiny ?
[19:26] <fabrice_sp> man dh is definitively better
[19:27] <ScottL> yes, I found both of those fabrice_sp
[19:28] <ScottL> but my understanding of makefiles, /debian/rules, et al is rather limited still and I'm not sure really how to convert
[19:28] <ScottL> but thanks for your help nonetheless :)
[19:29] <fabrice_sp> ScottL, well, you can try with the tiny rules file (#!/usr/bin/make -f
[19:29] <fabrice_sp>                %:
[19:29] <fabrice_sp>                        dh $@)
[19:30] <fabrice_sp> arghh: bad paste
[19:30] <ScottL> i know which one you are trying to show
[19:30] <fabrice_sp> and if you ,iss something, uses override_<what you need>
[19:31] <ScottL> I did try that last night with the zynjacku but it didn't work
[19:31] <ScottL> I've been reading the FSF gnu make book and I need to devote the time to really understand a large percentage of the dh scripts
[19:32] <fabrice_sp> ScottL, according to the actual rules files, it should work quite easily (it uses ./configure, make and make install )
[19:32] <fabrice_sp> you miss perhaps some extra parameters
[19:33] <ScottL> probably, i tried it very late last night and was a bit fuzzy in the head to dry to problem solve, i'll try again later
[19:34] <ScottL> s/dry/try
[19:35] <fabrice_sp> if you can try now,  we can help you looking after the errors
[19:36] <ScottL_> okay, but I have very limited time (really should be cleaning up for daughter's 8th birthday/sleep over party)
[19:37] <ScottL_> okay, i run debuild -S and:    debian/rules:3: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[19:38] <ScottL_> hmmm, I guess I should revisit what i put into the rules file :/
[19:39] <fabrice_sp> and uses tabs ;-)
[19:40] <ScottL_> blimey, you beat me to it...yes, it was the tab
[19:41] <ScottL_> i compared to /usr/share/doc/debhelper/tiny    but I thought that I had copied it from there last night, perhaps not
[19:42] <ScottL_> so basically for all rules there are no targets and it runs dh clean, dh build, dh *  as called
[19:43] <ScottL_> debuild -S works now again   :)
[19:43] <ScottL_> and building again in pbuilder
[19:44] <ScottL_> but fabrice_sp, how can I pass arguments?   directories and the like?
[19:45] <ScottL_> nevermind, I think this page I found last night (told you it was late) probably has the information   http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/cdbs_killer___40__design_phase__41__/
[20:18] <Quintasan> hmm, fabrice_sp, shouldn't pbzip2 provide some sort file for update-alternatives?
[20:19] <fabrice_sp> Quintasan, not sure what is the context of the question :-D
[20:21] <Quintasan> fabrice_sp: well pbzip2 is obviously faster with mulicore processors and it should be available to choose as an alternative to standard bzip2
[20:22] <fabrice_sp> Quintasan, sounds logical, yes
[20:23] <Quintasan> well, just a test case, pbzip2 took 7 seconds to zip a 234mb text file and normal bzip almost 20 :P
[20:25] <cody-somerville> Quintasan, absolutely not
[20:25] <fabrice_sp> wouah!
[20:25] <Quintasan> oh
[20:26] <fabrice_sp> cody-somerville, why?
[20:26] <Quintasan> cody-somerville: why not?
[20:26] <fabrice_sp> :-D
[20:26] <cody-somerville> Thats not how alternatives are supposed to be used.
[20:26] <Quintasan> cody-somerville: hm?
[20:27]  * fabrice_sp is learning something new
[20:28] <Quintasan> I though if we provide an alternative in kubuntu-artwork-usplash or unrar & unrar-nonfree we could do something like this for pbzip2
[20:28] <cody-somerville> Yes and that would be wrong
[20:28] <cody-somerville> and cause breakage
[20:28] <Quintasan> why so?
[20:29] <cody-somerville> They take different command line options
[20:29] <Quintasan> uhh, right, I did not consider that
[20:29] <Quintasan> -_-
[20:29]  * Quintasan feels bit stupid now
[20:32] <jmarsden> Quintasan: If you really want to, writing a wrapper script to map the bzip2 options to pbzip2 and using the wrapper as the alternative might be worth a look.
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> Is using the CDBS the recommended way of packaging python modules? From what I've read on the wiki, there seems to be a couple other ways, but I cannot find much information about them.
[20:37] <ScottK> Odd-rationale: For a python module that uses distutils it's an easy way to do it, but currently using debhelper is recommended.  WIth debhelper 7 rules.tiny it's just as easy and technically better.
[20:38] <Odd-rationale> ScottK: ok thanks. I'm kind of new to ubuntu packaging. So I'm experimenting around...
[20:39] <ScottK> Odd-rationale: If you are interested in packaging Python modules I recommend joining #debian-python on OFTC and working with that team (it has a lot of Ubuntu participation) to get your package into Debian (and sync'ed to Ubuntu from there)
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> ok.
[20:39] <ScottK> They are also willing to help people who are new and just learning.
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> so if i want to use dh7, i should call dh_make without the -b option?
[20:57] <hyperair> if you want to use dh7, you run without -b and then get rid of the debian/rules file and start afresh
[20:57] <ScottK> Odd-rationale: I'd start with a working package as a template and use that.
[20:58] <ScottK> Odd-rationale: I'll suggest my python-ipaddr package for one.
[20:58] <fabrice_sp> how is that a package in testing since the 16th of January is not yet in Ubuntu? It's libmoosex-types-common-perl
[20:58] <fabrice_sp> No 'autosync' since the 16th?
[20:59] <ScottK> fabrice_sp: Normal autosync and new package sync are two different archive admin actions.
[20:59] <fabrice_sp> ohh
[20:59] <ScottK> Also new packages need to go through source and binary New in Ubuntu.
[20:59] <fabrice_sp> I thought autosync was sync existing and new packages
[20:59] <ScottK> So "How" is lots of possibilities.
[20:59] <ScottK> Nope.
[21:00] <fabrice_sp> ok
[21:01] <Odd-rationale> hyperair, ScottK: thanks!
[21:03] <Odd-rationale> ScottK: is your python-ipaddr in the repositories?
[21:03] <Odd-rationale> so i can apt-get source it?
[21:09] <ScottK> Odd-rationale: Yes.  In lucid
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> ScottK: oh, ok...
[21:19] <randomaction> fabrice_sp: are you planning to make any uploads of aqsis? If not I'll rebuild it for boost 1.40 (it's uninstallable in lucid now)
[21:37] <fabrice_sp> randomaction, no: no new version in the short term.
[21:37] <fabrice_sp> thanks for taking care of it ;-)
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> ScottK: Thanks for all your help! Would you be willing to take a look at my package and offer some feedback? or is there a way to get someone to show me if I was doing it correctly? Thanks again!
[23:26] <ockham> hi, i'd like to announce my first package: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pysolfc
[23:26] <ockham> (and my second one: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pysolfc-cardsets :-)
[23:35] <blueyed> Why am I getting conflicts with "bzr merge-upstream" in debian/* ? e.g. in debian/control.. where does "merge source" come from?
[23:35] <blueyed> james_w: ^^
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> What does it mean by "The changelog does not close a bug from Launchpad."?
[23:50] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: you are doing a new package?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> Quintasan: yes. I am learning how.
[23:51] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: okay, every new package should close a bug from Launchpad
[23:51] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: please file a bug on launchpad - [needs-packaging] <your package name> and assign yourself to it
[23:52] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: then in changelog you should add (Closes LP: #<your bug number>)
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> Quintasan: ok. do i file it under ubuntu?
[23:52] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: yes
[23:53] <Quintasan> Odd-rationale: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[23:53] <Quintasan> You will use it very often :)
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> Quintasan: yes. i've been reading that. very helpful doc.
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to search within all needs-packaging bugs for a string?


[01:16] <claydoh> Wow, I applied to the ubuntu -us-georgia loco, way back in 2011 or early 2012, and just now was approved for membership.
[01:17] <claydoh> I'd forgotten I had even attempted to join
[01:18] <claydoh> are locos still a thing? I tried getting one going in Maine, but time and distance  made it hard
[01:19]  * claydoh would really rather have a kubuntu or kde local group
[07:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <soee> it is so much easier to transfer files to Android devices using KDE Connect than using Ubuntu Phone as seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU5KMyJrWxU
[09:14] <doko> Riddell, santa_:  how's the kde stack with GCC 5?
[09:17] <vip> hi ho
[09:19] <sick_rimmit> Hayyyyyy!
[09:19] <soee> hiho sick_rimmit
[09:19] <soee> hiho vip
[09:19] <sick_rimmit> soee: Hello my friend :-)
[09:20] <vip> soee: any news about fresh debs for vivid with kde?
[09:20] <soee> vip: well did you tested 5.3.2 ? :)
[09:20] <lordievader> Hey vip, sick_rimmit, soee, Riddell. How are all of you doing?
[09:21] <soee> lordievader: doing good :)
[09:21] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Yeah, really good thanks, you ?
[09:21] <lordievader> Doing pretty good myself, got ipv6 forwarding to work :D
[09:22] <vip> soee: i don't know, those new versioning system completely messes me up
[09:22] <vip> soee: but I didn't download those month old debs for sure
[09:23] <lordievader> vip: What version of plasma are you running?
[09:24] <soee> but i think they are the one to test
[09:24] <vip> lordievader: who knows... is there any kde --versions command?
[09:24] <lordievader> vip: Open ksysinfocenter.
[09:24] <vip> (for all these versions of kde)
[09:25] <vip> lordievader: kinfocenter?
[09:25] <lordievader> Err, yes. That one ;)
[09:26] <vip> kde plama ver 5.3.1
[09:28] <lordievader> Right, so backports ;) 5.3.2 is still in testing.
[09:32] <vip> lordievader: 4:5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1	Scarlett Clark (2015-07-06)
[09:32] <vip> packages month old
[09:33] <vip> and still testing?
[09:34] <vip> oh i see, plasma (whatever it is) 5.3.2, kde frameworks (whatever it is) 5.12.0 (wow, such number), and kde applications 15.08
[09:38] <santa_> hi doko, I will me moving today from one house to another. tomorrow and next days I will try to finish the patchset for kde apps as soon as possible
[09:38] <santa_> and ... I have reasons to think we won't have grave runtime problems during the transition
[10:39] <vip> lordievader: works
[10:40] <vip> (almost)
[10:40] <lordievader> vip: Sorry, what does?
[10:40] <vip> 5.3.2
[10:41] <vip> Plasma  5.3.2, from staging repo
[10:42] <vip> oh, it does not.. plasmashell PID: 2932Sygnał: Segmentation fault (11)
[10:42] <soee> after reboot  >
[10:42] <soee> ?
[10:42] <vip> yup
[10:42] <vip> but i've got problems with plasmashell 5.3.1 too
[10:42] <lordievader> vip: Vivid or Wily?
[10:43] <vip> vivid
[10:47] <lordievader> Hmm, works fine here.
[10:52] <vip> i'll add dbg packages, maybe
[11:46] <ahoneybun> I seem to get a plasma crash when I try to reboot/shutdown
[11:46] <yofel> good to know I'm not the only one
[11:47] <ahoneybun> though I'm on wily
[11:47] <ahoneybun> soooo slooow
[11:47] <ahoneybun> when typing
[11:47] <ahoneybun> and things :(
[11:47] <ahoneybun> was working fine at akademy
[11:48] <yofel> wily too, on vivid I'm still on 5.3.1
[11:48] <yofel> I don't think it happens there
[11:50] <ahoneybun> I'm beginning to think it has to do with chromium
[11:55] <yofel> I do use chrome, so I'll try to check that in the evening
[12:04] <Riddell> doko: I guess I'll try and upload kde frameworks 5.12 today to wily
[12:07] <doko> Riddell, please no big batch uploads
[12:09] <sitter> frameworks only comes like that
[12:09] <Riddell> doko: how would you like it done?
[12:10] <Riddell> doko: it's these packages http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.12.0_wily.html
[12:10] <Riddell> which are built against gcc 5 so we can be pretty confident they all work
[12:11] <doko> Riddell, are there any libs which shold go first=
[12:11] <doko> ?
[12:11] <Riddell> doko: frameworks has a list of tier1 that have no internal dependencies only qt
[12:11] <doko> well, then upload those, buildds are not that busy atm
[12:14] <Riddell> sitter: I'm going to pause KCI for that
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:43] <Tonio_> hi there
[15:44] <ahoneybun> hello Tonio_
[15:44] <Tonio_> got a little question....
[15:45] <Tonio_> I haven't been there for a long time, but as an ex core-dev I used to have a @ubuntu.com email address which seems to have been removed from launchpad backoffice
[15:45] <Tonio_> it doesn't work anymore.... problem is I still use it ;)
[15:45] <Tonio_> who may I ask about that ?
[15:45] <Tonio_> Riddell, you there maybe ?
[15:46] <Tonio_> hi ahoneybun ;)
[15:47] <ahoneybun> maybe #ubuntu-rmb
[15:47] <Tonio_> I don't about that channel... what does it stand for ?
[15:47] <davmor2> Tonio_: did you renew your ubuntu membership?
[15:48] <Tonio_> I think so ;)
[15:48] <Tonio_> that's weird
[15:48] <Tonio_> I'm still a member of motu but not ubuntu
[15:48] <Tonio_> shouldn't be possible theorically
[15:48] <ahoneybun> rmb is the membership board
[15:48] <davmor2> Tonio_: that's the reason why then
[15:49] <Tonio_> ah.....
[15:50] <Tonio_> I used to renew all my memberships for a long time but I started to be "honnest" recently, and let it go ;)
[15:50] <Tonio_> beeing noticed as a core-dev without uploading a package for like 4 years was a bit lying ;)
[15:50] <Tonio_> haha
[15:51] <Tonio_> indeed I forgot about the standard ubuntu membership...
[15:51] <Tonio_> I'm gona ask there
[15:53] <Tonio_> thanks davmor2 I'm asking.... we'll see !:
[15:54] <Tonio_> feel strange and lovelly to type in here again ;)
[15:57] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:57] <shadeslayer> Tonio_: *hugs*
[15:59] <Tonio_> hey ;)
[16:01] <Tonio_> how are you doing shadeslayer ?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> good
[16:02] <shadeslayer> had a crazy weekend
[16:04] <Tonio_> ;)
[16:04] <Tonio_> I guess I could say it's the same for me
[16:04] <Tonio_> even though from now on it's not IT stuff ;)
[16:20] <shadeslayer> Tonio_: it wasn't IT stuff for me too ;)
[16:22] <doko> Riddell, ScottK: could you have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=791253 and eventually merge that ?
[16:27] <Riddell> doko: tier 1 frameworks uploading now
[16:27] <Riddell> 22 of them
[16:28] <doko> ta
[16:28] <doko> can you look at qca2?
[16:31] <lisandro> doko: we have been just looking at it on debian, it is *probably* not needed on ubuntu, definitely not in debian
[16:31] <lisandro> the difference being that qca2 in ubuntu is not hiding symbols
[16:32] <doko> right, I was asking Riddell to look at merging the packaging changes
[16:32] <lisandro> Ubuntu package doesn't pass -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden
[16:32] <doko> and I changed it, because I saw ftbfs
[16:32] <lisandro> cool :)
[16:33] <lisandro> by the way, you should really consider passing those flags to most of (if not all of) your libraries
[16:34] <lisandro> you will get missing symbols in the first run, but those are 99.9% private ones
[16:35] <doko> Riddell, ^^^
[16:49] <Riddell> doko: sorry I just moved country and am mostly busy unpacking today, back to normalish tomorrow
[16:50] <doko> Riddell, just make a note please
[16:51] <Riddell> gotcha
[16:53] <ahoneybun> Riddell: we did not do a group hug
[17:45] <doko> Noskcaj, qqwing accepted in -proposed
[17:49] <clivejo> Riddell: where have you moved to?
[19:27] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: are you around?
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[19:31] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pong
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> you're into packaging
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> perhaps you can help me
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> I see the most recent digikam release is 4.12, a week ago, previously 4.11, 4.10 up to 2 months ago
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> yet in kubuntu packages I find the latest to be 4.9
[19:33] <ahoneybun> I'm a yellow belt lol
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> can you confirm that no one has packaged a newer version?
[19:33] <ahoneybun> I've seen someone trying
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=digikam&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= shows not
[19:33] <ahoneybun> wether it is on LP is a different story
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> sorry, this link: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+builds?build_text=digikam&build_state=all
[19:34] <ahoneybun> might be on someone's own ppa
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> please make me understand
[19:34] <ahoneybun> I think Riddell and clivejo were working on it
[19:34] <clivejo> ahoneybun ovidiu-florin: for wily
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> for vivid
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> but also wily
[19:34] <ahoneybun> yea plus it is a BIG package
[19:35] <clivejo> Ive only been working on wily
[19:36] <soee> ovidiu-florin: Scarlett is traveling home :) see last comment here https://plus.google.com/+DanasAnis/posts/MWwtzSF4r9h
[19:37] <clivejo> last digikam I did was 4.11
[19:37] <clivejo> I might try 4.12
[19:38] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ATM clivejo has more packaging knowledge then me tbh
[19:38] <clivejo> I dont have a clue
[19:39] <clivejo> I still trying to figure out how to add a dependancy to the muon updater
[19:39] <ahoneybun> I just know a bit of fixing some errors
[19:40] <clivejo> I know I have to edit the control file, but do I edit it in the package rep or the main archive (how do I add to the main archive)
[19:40] <clivejo> so many questions!
[19:41] <ahoneybun> access to the main archive is pretty high
[19:42] <ahoneybun> clivejo: do you have your work in a ppa?
[19:42] <clivejo> I been deleting it as I been running out of room
[19:43] <clivejo> calligra and digikam are monsters
[19:43] <ahoneybun> yea..
[19:44] <ahoneybun> Riddell: hopefully will be back in full swing tomoorrow
[19:44] <clivejo> where is he moving?
[19:45] <ahoneybun> no clue I thought he meant coming back from akademy
[19:46] <ahoneybun> so digikam is on kde4 still...
[19:46] <clivejo> he said earier hes moving country?
[19:48] <soee> i think hes moved from Spain to Scotland
[19:48] <soee> so unpacking stuff now etc.
[19:48] <clivejo> I kinda got that impression too
[19:49] <clivejo> man hes gonna be in foul mood
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> digikam 5 is in beta 1
[19:49] <clivejo> the weather here is mental
[19:50] <lordievader> clivejo: In Scotland?
[19:50] <lordievader> I guess he is used to Scotland's weather ;)
[19:50] <clivejo> yeah
[19:50] <clivejo> we have gale force winds and rain
[19:51] <lordievader> A tad (or more than a tad) worse than Dutch weather, right?
[19:51] <clivejo> I have never experienced Dutch weather
[19:52] <lordievader> clivejo: Lots of rain, and then some more. You haven't missed anything ;)
[19:53] <soee> systemd 224 in updates, we just had 223 so version jumping quick
[19:54] <yofel> latest digikam I see is 4.10 in wily
[19:54] <yofel> clivejo: where is that 4.11 you're talking about?
[19:54] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[19:54] <ovidiu-florin> it's already outdated
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> 4.12 is the latest. but that's a week ago
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: missed you at akademy
[20:02] <yofel> missed you guys too, at least looked at some of the pictures ^^
[21:18] <clivejo> ahoneybun ovidiu-florin yofel soee: can any of you help me with this - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213500634/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.digikam_4%3A4.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[21:20] <yofel> that doesn't tell much except that there's a dependency problem
[21:20] <yofel> I would try that in pbuilder to get the aptitude output
[21:21] <clivejo> it is building on my own machine
[21:21] <clivejo> and cant figure out why it wont build on LP
[21:21] <yofel> you have wily-proposed enabled on your machine?
[21:21] <clivejo> dont think so
[21:21] <yofel> well, the PPA has it
[21:22] <yofel> probably some fallout from the current gcc5 mess
[21:22] <clivejo> can I disable it?
[21:23] <yofel> yes, if you go to "edit dependencies" on your ppa page
[21:23] <yofel> don't forget to enable it again later though if you want your PPA to match the archive builders
[21:27] <clivejo> where did my 386 build go?
[21:28] <clivejo> ah found it
[21:29] <clivejo> looks like it starting to build
[21:29] <clivejo> fingers crossed
[22:14] <clivejo> ahoneybun: would you test digikam 4.12 in my PPA?


[00:30] <alecwh> I'm using vcs-imports, how often does it update the repositories? Mine is at: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpns/trunk , and I made a commit about 20 minutes ago
[00:38] <thumper> alecwh: at the moment, every six hours
[00:38] <thumper> there is a bug filed somwhere about making it more configurable
[00:39] <alecwh> thumper: Ok, that's good. I was just making sure it actually updates for my project. Thanks. :)
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #173595 in launchpad "person's bug search page lists every milestone in every project" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173595
[07:37] <mpt> duplicate
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #173597 in launchpad "want to directly create an faq" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173597
[08:31] <mpt> duplicate
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/138500 was the original
[08:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Yeah, I found that yesterday.
[08:46] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Or day before. One of them.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Not long after I filed mine.
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: this is just a good reason not to assign bugs.  or fix them.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Hah.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> and to screenscrape and use email as much as possible.
[08:47]  * Fujitsu waits impatiently for the first bits of the API to materialise.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: then again, i'm not sure you should be getting it anywya - seeing as it's supposed to just relate to the project...which i thought was ubuntu.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Right.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> But no, every SourcePackage in every DistroSeries is a different context.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Might as well say `William Grant isn't assigned to this bug yet. Are you sure you want to assign him?'
[08:48] <Hobbsee> all under the global ubuntu, i would have thought
[08:49] <Hobbsee> like, why limit it to each distro-series?
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Right, it should be global over Ubuntu. Or at least not complain about ~ubuntu-dev members.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: fix it :)
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Speaking of the devil.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> yes, speak of the devil.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: doing it for anyone involved in ubuntu bug triage is going to be a bitch.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> not just -dev
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Oh, because these triaging people like to assign themselves, right.
[08:51] <Fujitsu> And is it valid to ask me if I want to assign me? That also sounds silly.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: well, that's true.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: in terms of -bugcontrol, at least, it's required
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: if it's -dev, it doesn't deal with contributors
[08:51] <Fujitsu> That's true.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> as in, non-dev contributors
[08:52] <Hobbsee> but yes, assigning to yourself seems fairly obvious - and you're only going to give yourself bugmail anyway by hitting in
[08:52] <Hobbsee> s/in/it
[08:55]  * Hobbsee ponders filing a bug about it
[08:56] <Hobbsee> if i do, it might get ignored for 2+ months.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> OTOH, if the relevant people show up in here and talk, it might get fixed RSN.
[08:56] <Fujitsu> .. and hopefully not released with 1.1.12.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> the new system probably will get released.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Hopefully in a somewhat modified incarnation.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[09:03] <Hobbsee> reported.  now we'll see how long it takes.
[09:04] <Hobbsee> morning mrevell
[09:04] <Fujitsu> Hi mrevell.
[09:04] <mrevell> hey Hobbsee, Fujitsu
[09:04] <Hobbsee> mrevell: we have the user-affecting bug for the next meeting, if you need one :P
[09:05] <mrevell> Hobbsee: oh, cool :) What's that then?
[09:05] <Hobbsee> mrevell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/173195 and listed bugs in the comments.
[09:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173195 in malone "Malone on edge *click* shouldn't *click* ask *click* me if I want to *click* assign a bug to *click* a developer *click*" [High,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)
[09:05] <Hobbsee> mrevell: it's only hit edge, and people are already screaming.
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Erm, that wasn't assigned/confirmed last time I looked.
[09:06]  * Fujitsu checks bugmail.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: change of an hour ago, probably
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #173617 in malone "Launchpad should not ask me if i wish to assign a bug to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173617
[09:23] <Peng> Is there any way to see the branches for a certain user for a certain project?
[09:41] <kiko-zzz> Peng, yes. code.l.n/~user/project I believe
[10:06] <Peng> kiko-zzz: That's what I tried. 404.
[10:07] <ddaa> Peng: it does not exist
[10:07] <ddaa> it should
[10:07] <ddaa> file a bug please
[10:07] <ddaa> Two years ago, I thought "we'll implement this page a bit later"
[10:09] <Peng> Heh.
[10:10] <Peng> Hmm, are there other places where sugh a thing should be supported? Bugs or something?
[10:24] <ddaa> it would make sense for bug listings
[10:24] <ddaa> I am not sure it is such a compelling feature though
[10:24] <Fujitsu> There is ~someone/+{reported,subscribed,assigned,commented}bugs
[10:25] <ddaa> Fujitsu: we're talking about restricting this further by bugtask context
[10:25] <ddaa> actually it would be tricky with bugs, because its context is not as well defined as for branches
[10:26] <Fujitsu> ddaa: Doing it by bugtask should be fine.
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #173627 in malone "OOPS when confirming new assignees when non-ascii characters are present in the form" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173627
[10:26] <Fujitsu> By bugs, not so much. But +*bugs shows tasks anyway.
[10:26] <ddaa> Fujitsu: reported, subscribed, and commented is a property of bug, not bugtask
[10:27] <Fujitsu> ddaa: That's true, but they're rendered as bugtasks.
[10:28] <Fujitsu> (you see each task for each bug having that property, not some aggregate of the bug..)
[10:28] <ddaa> *shrug*
[10:28] <ddaa> The point is, this feature is compelling for branches
[10:29] <ddaa> and there, the context is very well defined
[10:38] <Peng> Bug 173633.
[10:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633
[10:59] <StevenHarperUK> Hi, I was looking at my karma score, how come I don't get any karma for, making, and packagaing a product that has got onto hardy? : https://edge.launchpad.net/~stevenharperuk/+packages
[11:05] <Fujitsu> StevenHarperUK: Because Soyuz doesn't give karma yet. That's targetted for a couple of months from now, IIRC.
[11:22] <StevenHarperUK> Fujitsu: ta
[11:23] <cprov> good morning, folks
[11:24] <Hobbsee> guten tag, cprov
[11:47] <DaveMorris> Can someone clear my ppa please, so I can push a build for revu to it, before I upload it (the build takes 3-4hrs) https://edge.launchpad.net/~dave-greenacre/+archive
[11:48] <Hobbsee> DaveMorris: why can't you upload it as it is?
[11:49]  * Hobbsee moves the finishing line.
[11:49] <DaveMorris> because I need to push a new source.  The one I uploaded to my ppa was weeks ago with the source been different to what I'm gonna push to revu
[11:49] <DaveMorris> just making sure it builds on my machine with pbuilder 1st
[11:49] <Hobbsee> does it have the same version number?
[11:49] <DaveMorris> yeah
[11:50] <Hobbsee> do i want to ask why the source is different?
[11:51] <DaveMorris> because it's not actually a release as such, but a cvs snapshot.  And I had removed the doc's folder before for my ppa as I didn't wanna build them (I was still learning etc), but for the ubuntu archives I'm building the docs
[11:52] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[11:52] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure cprov is around to do it
[11:52] <DaveMorris> no rush, I'll poke cprov about it when I see him then.  I just thought it'd be nicer on the revu guys if the package was already built for them.
[11:53] <Hobbsee> they build it themselves
[11:53] <Hobbsee> just to make sure
[11:54] <DaveMorris> yeah, but they can see the stupid mistakes quicker this way
[11:54] <cprov> DaveMorris: file a question in product launchpad, it will be done at some point today.
[11:55] <DaveMorris> thanks
[13:24] <kiko> fe fi fo fum
[13:24]  * Hobbsee slays kiko, and cooks him for breakfast
[13:30]  * Fujitsu grinds Hobbsee's bones.
[13:32] <Hobbsee> that's not hard.
[13:32]  * Hobbsee haunts Fujitsu
[13:32] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[13:32]  * Fujitsu is haunted forever.
[13:32]  * Fujitsu goes to bed.
[13:32]  * Hobbsee attacks him with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ™
[13:33]  * Fujitsu throws Hobbsee an ®
[13:33]  * Hobbsee eats it
[13:33] <Fujitsu> That was silly. Didn't you see the `Choking hazard. Not for children under 3 years of age.' sticker on it?
[13:34] <Hobbsee> good thing i'm over 3.
[13:34] <kiko> no way!
[13:35] <Hobbsee> kiko: :P
[13:35] <Hobbsee> kiko: you're mean!
[13:35] <kiko> but at the core a good person
[13:35] <Hobbsee> sure sure
[13:36] <Hobbsee> is this like i'm good, or something?
[13:37] <kiko> look at it this way: better 3 than 30.
[13:37] <Hobbsee> i don't know about that....
[13:38] <kiko> speaking from experience.
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #173656 in malone "Wording modify request: Please modify the wording to make it more polite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173656
[13:41] <kiko> it's nice that a request for a polite message starts with please. :)
[13:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[15:00] <ubotu> New bug: #173670 in rosetta "IndexError on pluralforms during import" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173670
[15:43] <ubuntufreak> I have problem with signing the code of conduct http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3941/errorra5.png
[15:45] <ubuntufreak> any help?
[15:45] <Hobbsee> you need to register your public key in launchpad first
[15:45] <Hobbsee> !gpg
[15:45] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:45]  * Hobbsee --> bed
[15:47] <ubuntufreak> Hobbsee: I have done that before and received an encrypted mail from launchpad
[18:07] <hype_> Hi, i mailed "launchpad" to add the opera-browser bug report system, which is missing as stated here:  https://launchpad.net/opera-browser/+filebug
[18:07] <hype_> here is their bugreport page: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/
[18:08] <hype_> can it be added to launchpad?  Thanks. :)
[18:10] <Odd_Bloke> hype_: You'd be best opening a question about it.
[18:10] <stdin> hype_: why not just file a bug against the package https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/ ?
[18:10] <hype_> ok, i actually mailed at the adress mentionned on launchpad opera's page
[18:11] <hype_> with these infos, is it enough?
[18:13] <hype_> ok, im doing the bug report against opera :)
[18:15] <hype_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/+bug/173710
[18:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,New]
[18:16] <hype_> ok, thanks everyone. :)
[19:56] <lamont> re: 'build queue depth' on lp.net/+builds.... 'twould be nice if the architecture names were links to a page with the full queue
[19:56] <lamont> (since it's clearly more than /ubuntu/hardy/$arch/+builds
[19:56] <lamont> )
[19:57] <kiko> there is no page with the full queue
[19:57] <kiko> but it's only more for the PPA archs
[20:11] <recon> What seems to be a completely inactive account at https://launchpad.net/~recon/ is taking up the name I customarily use. Is there any way to get it deleted, or can't I?
[20:14] <intellectronica> recon: maybe you can contact the user (they have an email address) and ask? remember that it's possible to change your username in launchpad
[20:14] <recon> intellectronica: i already have an existing account. i didn't get a reply from the address (this was about six months ago)
[20:16] <intellectronica> recon: oh, i see
[20:19] <kiko> recon, I've renamed his address. feel free to take it over.
[20:19] <recon> kiko: wow. thanks.
[20:19] <kiko> recon, what's your former ID, btw?
[20:19] <recon> kiko: ~recon-etc
[20:20] <kiko> recon, and you have recon registered on freenode?
[20:20] <recon> it has something to do with bad ISPs.
[20:20] <recon> kiko: yes.
[20:20] <kiko> then go ahead and take it :)
[20:20] <recon> kiko: already did.
[20:20] <kiko> hah
[20:21] <recon> yeah, i'm kinda compulsive about keeping my identity the same throughout the internet.
[20:21] <kiko> not a bad idea
[20:22] <javaJake> recon, same here
[20:22] <javaJake> recon, javaJake's luckily 90% unique. :)
[20:23] <javaJake> Googling brings strange results, though. :/
[20:23] <recon> javaJake: you think _you_ have problems with googling your nick?
[20:23] <javaJake> lol
[20:45] <kergoth> How does one disable features of launchpad for a specific project, like if its maintainers don't want to make use of, say, Answers?
[20:50] <slangasek> can someone explain to me why the Debian status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/vips/+bug/161760 shows as "new", when the Debian bug it's marked as tracking is "done"?
[20:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161760 in vips "Please sync vips 7.12.5-2 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  - Assigned to Steve Langasek (vorlon)
[21:13] <javaJake> slangasek, looks like they're working away at it. I wouldn't be worried
[21:14] <slangasek> javaJake: it looks like who's working away at what?
[21:14] <javaJake> slangasek, fixing/closing/whatever
[21:14] <javaJake> slangasek, look at the last comment - it is dated 12/1/07
[21:14] <javaJake> Give them at least a week before you wonder what's up. :)
[21:15] <slangasek> javaJake: the state that LP reports for the Debian bug is wrong, and has been since November 17.
[21:15] <BjornT> slangasek: hmm. it last synced the status 2007-11-15. let me check if i can see why it hasn't synced since then.
[21:16] <slangasek> BjornT: ok, thanks.
[21:16] <kiko> for a debian bug that's odd.
[21:16]  * slangasek chuckles
[21:21] <BjornT> slangasek, kiko: oh. there's a db permission error, which causes the error reporting to fail. i'll make sure it gets fixed tomorrow.
[21:21] <slangasek> ok, cheers
[21:31] <Fujitsu> I note a number of my watches haven't update either in a while either (still Unknown).
[21:34] <kiko> Fujitsu, it's what BjornT said. a bongo bug.
[21:36] <Fujitsu> Ah, so it's a global bug?
[21:37] <kiko> in checkwatches
[21:38] <kiko> but it's easy to fix -- just a silly permissions problem.
[21:42] <kiko> Fujitsu, why don't you tell me how dget works?
[21:42] <kiko> Fujitsu, do you just feed it a DSC url?
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #173752 in malone "If a db error occurs while updating a bug watch, all remaining bug watches for that bug tracker will fail to update" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173752
[21:48] <Fujitsu> kiko: You just feed it a .dsc URL, yeah.
[21:48] <kiko> thanks
[22:03] <frafu> Hello, If I remember correctly, some time ago I downloaded the changes of which revision of a project in launchpad as a diff file; unfortunately I cannot find anymore how to do it. Has that possibility been removed?
[22:13] <ianm1> why is it that I 'push' in one place and 'pull' in another and I see, respectively: "Pushed up to revision 376." and "No revisions to pull." ?
[22:14] <ianm1> and 'bzr update' says 'Tree is up to date at revision 372.'
[22:15] <somerville32> ianm1, push (to the server), pull (from the server), and update (the working tree).
[22:16] <ianm1> somerville32: how do I refresh the tree that was created with 'bzr branch' ?  or is branch not the right one to use
[22:17] <somerville32> branch creates a copy of the branch
[22:17] <somerville32> If you want to merge, you use the merge command
[22:17] <somerville32> 'bzr help' is also very comprehensive.
[22:18] <somerville32> For more help with bazaar, you might see #bzr
[22:18] <ianm1> the website suggests users use 'branch' to download
[22:18] <somerville32> ianm1, Right
[22:18] <Fujitsu> branch or checkout is to downloa?
[22:18] <somerville32> ianm1, pull is pretty much "sync"
[22:18] <Fujitsu> *download
[22:18] <ianm1> so if a user of my software uses 'bzr branch', how can I get an update to them ?
[22:18] <Fujitsu> bzr pull, or merge if they have made changes.
[22:18] <lifeless> Fujitsu: checkout is to work in cvs/svn mode
[22:18] <lifeless> Fujitsu: branch is to make a new branch
[22:19] <Fujitsu> lifeless: Right, but users might well not want to make changes.
[22:19] <lifeless> Fujitsu: IME they get confused when the *do*, because they checked out someone *elses* branch
[22:19] <Fujitsu> I guess so.
[22:19] <lifeless> Fujitsu: so I never tell new users about checkout unless they are using bzr-svn.
[22:19] <Fujitsu> Probably a good policy.
[22:20] <lifeless> Or they are setting up a central branch for a team (and thus checkout is useful to them)
[22:20] <lifeless> What I tell new users is 'bzr branch X to get a local mirror. bzr pull to refresh it. If you want to develop there, change to using bzr merge, and use bzr push to publish.'
[22:25] <ianm1> but bzr pull doesn't seem to get updates
[22:26] <somerville32> ianm1, bzr pull <branch>
[22:27] <ianm1> ah ok thanks
[22:30] <jcastro> if I have ownership of a hosted branch on lp, will changing the owner from myself basically turn it into a team branch?
[22:30] <lifeless> yes
[22:30] <jcastro> ta
[22:30] <Flare183> How does the mentoring process work?
[22:31] <jcastro> lifeless: oh rock, it even changes the url
[22:32] <thumper> jcastro: it makes it a team branch if the new owner is a team
[22:32] <thumper> jcastro: and how are those push ups going?
[22:33] <jcastro> thumper: 85 over three days
[22:33] <jcastro> I am behind
[22:33] <ianm1> jcastro: what's the goal?
[22:33] <thumper> jcastro: my shoulder is a little sore, and I'm trying to be gentle on it
[22:33] <thumper> ianm1: 2000 in december
[22:33] <jcastro> ianm1: 2000 in one month
[22:34] <jcastro> thumper: I have these push up bars so my wrists don't get sore
[22:34] <ianm1> good goal
[22:34] <thumper> jcastro: I'm trying to get mine out of the way before Christmas
[22:37] <thumper> jcastro: as I feel that my normal champagne breakfast on christmas will not make me feel condusive to more push ups
[22:38] <jcastro> thumper: I am doing them in lieu of my normal typing breaks
[22:39] <thumper> jcastro: I don't have normal typing breaks
[22:39] <jcastro> so, if I do 10 at the end of every hour, and I work 8 hours a day, that's 80 per day
[22:39] <thumper> jcastro: sounds like a good plan
[22:39] <ianm1> a dumbbell next to the desk works great for typing/compiling breaks (curse all you high level interpreted languages!)
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173710