[00:00] <h3sp4wn> !info b43-fwcutter
[00:00] <ubotu> Package b43-fwcutter does not exist in gutsy
[00:00] <Dr_willis> I would still LOVE to see a compiz setting/module/tool that just shows ALL the keyboard shutcuts that are in use.
[00:00] <Dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[00:00] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> who is going to fix the snapshot number six?
[00:00] <kotelo> :S
[00:00] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis :D
[00:00] <kotelo> really
[00:00] <kotelo> fix it
[00:00] <kotelo> xD
[00:00] <Minataku> Say, Dr_Willis, why not come to #kubuntu-offtopic ? :3
[00:00] <Dr_willis> Hay Min.
[00:00] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: I thought you hated compiz ?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  theres so far 2 features of it i like. the rest is just fluff :)
[00:01] <Dr_willis> and it still needs a lot of work.
[00:01] <dvayanu> so... where can i find help with fonts?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  depends on the problem :)
[00:01] <sven_> who knows the name of the compiz effect where clikcing on a window that is half below another window will cause both windows to move away from eachother and then back on top of eachother with the clicked window on top/??
[00:01] <Fade2Blac> how would i disable the card so i can start kubuntu\
[00:01] <kotelo> Riddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[00:01] <kotelo> Riddell, fix the snapshot number six!! --> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/
[00:01] <dvayanu> dr_willis: the fonts just do look bad :-)
[00:01] <dvayanu> i had mscorefonts package installed
[00:01] <Dr_willis> sven_,  thats the 'dodge' effect under focus i think.
[00:01] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: sgi released some nice ones but they are not utf8 unfortunately
[00:02] <dvayanu> but it seems it doesn't work anymore
[00:02] <Lars_G> what's wrong with kotelo?
[00:02] <sven_> Dr_willis, looking it up.. thanks
[00:02] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  this is under a upgrade to gutsy?
[00:02] <kotelo> Lars_G, ;D
[00:02] <dvayanu> dr_willis yeah
[00:02] <nadinetetine> why when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error
[00:02] <dvayanu> just upgraded
[00:02] <Lega> 'lo.
[00:03] <nadinetetine> help! why when i type cat /etc/issue in the terminal it says that i have 7.10, but adept told me that i can update to 7.10 and when i do so, it keeps giving error
[00:03] <dvayanu> the updater said something about installing x-ttcidfont-conf
[00:03] <Dr_willis> dvayanu,  ive sen several people ask about font issues in #ubuntu today. i would say check the forums - there may be some thread on it by now - given how many people ive seen with issues.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> I always do a clean install.. :)
[00:03] <dvayanu> cant afford that ...
[00:03] <Dr_willis> and i think i will CONTINUE to always do a clean install.
[00:03] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: are you using kde or gnome ?
[00:03] <Fade2Blac> does anyone know
[00:03] <dvayanu> hs3sp4wn: kde
[00:04] <dvayanu> otherwise i would be on ubuntu wouldnt i? :-)
[00:04] <Fade2Blac> how to disable something so it does load on start up, the wireless card will not let me boot kubuntu
[00:04] <Fade2Blac> without getting an error
[00:04] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: I wouldn't too busy
[00:04] <frank_> ok I have to continue the upgrade. is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  gonna work?  does the dist-upgrader do something else?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  an error that wont let it continue booting?
[00:04] <dvayanu> my brother has same issue with gnome
[00:04] <h3sp4wn> dvayanu: There is something related to gtk that they have fixed it so it doesn't hardcode 96dpi anymore
[00:05] <dvayanu> ah
[00:05] <h3sp4wn> but if its pure kde that shouldn't be effected
[00:05] <dvayanu> i'vve seen an option
[00:05] <Fade2Blac> yes this error
[00:06] <Fade2Blac> bcm43xx: error : microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[00:06] <dvayanu> hmm...
[00:06] <h3sp4wn> Fade2Blac: get it from wl.o
[00:06] <dvayanu> force fonts dpi to 120 makes it a bit better
[00:06] <Fade2Blac> do u have a url
[00:06] <dvayanu> or lets say more readable
[00:06] <Lars_G> dvayanu: Aren't monitors general 72dpi anyhow?
[00:07] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  that shouldent stop the system from booting..
[00:07] <Dr_willis> Fade2Blac,  install the fwcutter package. it 'should' auto-dwnload those files
[00:07] <dvayanu> lars_g: i'm just tryint to get readable konsole font
[00:07] <Dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[00:07] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:07] <frank_> I'm pretty disappointed with the upgrader for kubuntu. I would be pretty screwed if I didn't know what I was doing...
[00:07] <Dr_willis> or at least it did for me.
[00:07] <h3sp4wn> Fade2Blac: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2.
[00:07] <Lars_G> frank_: I've had 50% luck so far
[00:07] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: No
[00:08] <Fade2Blac> so the command to install fwcutter would be
[00:08] <Rudd-O> hai guise, is wine broken for you in gutsy?
[00:08] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: Its entirely dependant on size (especially with lcd panels)
[00:08] <Rudd-O> it stopped working after the upgrade
[00:08] <Rudd-O> and I need it :-(
[00:08] <h3sp4wn> Lars_G: its dots per inch
[00:08] <frank_> Lars_G: i'm just continuing the upgrade in the terminal. I hope it works
[00:08] <wesley> systemsettings crashed at startup anyone does have this problem?
[00:08] <purpleposeidon> How do I real install grub?
[00:08] <Lars_G> h3sp4wn: dpi is dependant on density.
[00:08] <purpleposeidon> *reinstall?
[00:08] <Rudd-O> gutsy has been the buggiest release I've seen in the ubuntu history
[00:09] <Lars_G> frank_: me too
[00:09] <Rudd-O> dpi proportional to resolution, inversely proportional to display dimensions
[00:10] <h3sp4wn> Rudd-O: Yep
[00:10] <Fade2Blac> hey dr. what would that command be
[00:10] <Rudd-O> so any ideas about wine?
[00:10] <frank_> Lars_G: things like this make me feel the kubuntu side of ubuntu is neglected.
[00:10] <Rudd-O> how can I downgrade to a previous version?
[00:11] <h3sp4wn> frank_: It always has been
[00:11] <wesley> Mandriva is the best if it comes to config
[00:12] <frank_> h3sp4wn: is there anyone else other than ridell working on kubuntu specifically?
[00:12] <Fade2Blac> mandriva
[00:12] <Lars_G> !search fwcutter
[00:12] <ubotu> Found:
[00:12] <wesley> Yes mandriva linux 2008
[00:12] <h3sp4wn> frank_: Not who gets paid to afaik
[00:12] <ndrea> "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit" Do someone know why I'm getting this error in the Upgrade Wizard?
[00:12] <purpleposeidon> Last time I used mandrake, I couldn't find any help, or documentation, or install anything, or...
[00:13] <Lars_G> Fade2Blac: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:13] <frank_> ndrea: I got that too. but the second time i tried it worked
[00:13] <ndrea> ok
[00:13] <Fade2Blac> thx :) so that should fix it
[00:13] <ndrea> i try
[00:13] <wesley> its better then kubuntu 7.10 i think Mandriva did a good job i think
[00:13] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[00:13] <Dr_willis> purpleposeidon,  thats amazing.. giving the HUGE volumes of info on the internet about every disrto out. :)
[00:13] <Lars_G> Fade2Blac: no idea but that's how you get fwcutter
[00:13] <Fade2Blac> thank you
[00:13] <frank_> ndrea: the upgrader application crashed mid-upgrade for me though. I can't really recommend it unless you really know what you're doing
[00:14] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: when I left mandrake pre-mandriva their page organization was..... difficutl
[00:14] <Dr_willis> With linux it pays to learn the Fundamentals.. then the rest is just iceing. :)
[00:14] <ndrea> frank_: hm, what should I do then?
[00:14] <purpleposeidon> Dr_willis: It seemd to me that every site I looked at was under construction, or something
[00:15] <Lars_G> It's so sad flash is closed source
[00:15] <frank_> ndrea: I'm really not sure...
[00:15] <Lars_G> I wish some madman had done an aalib based flash player so I could play orisinal games on elinks while I wait for the install to finish
[00:15] <Rudd-O> just reported the wine bug
[00:15] <hydrogen> trying to compile a qt3 program I get "vk_file_utils.cpp:49:27: error: qplatformdefs.h: No such file or directory".. qplatformdefs.h exists in usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/*/.. I've installed libqt3-mt-dev
[00:15] <Rudd-O> sheesh how did I go to a totally working system to a broken one...
[00:15] <frank_> ndrea: I'm not the only one here who has had problems with the upgrader
[00:15] <ndrea>  Ok.... I'll just make a try or two :)
[00:16] <Rudd-O> guys, how can I downgrade a package to an older version?
[00:16] <Rudd-O> using adept of course?
[00:16] <frank_> ndrea: well i got to warn you if the upgrader crashes you might be left with an unbootable system
[00:16] <ndrea> could it be because there are many people downloading from that server?
[00:16] <Lars_G> Sigh all I have left is to look at ascii porn in links
[00:16] <ndrea> och, really?
[00:17] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: Do it from the cli (stop kdm) and using aptitude
[00:17] <ndrea> better uninstall and install again?
[00:17] <Lars_G> aptitude is gold
[00:17] <frank_> ndrea: well that's one to do it
[00:18] <frank_> ndrea: well that's one way to do it
[00:18] <Rudd-O> guys, how can I downgrade to a previous versino of a package using adept?
[00:18] <Rudd-O> or at least gimme the apt-get command or whatever
[00:19] <hydrogen> has anyone built valkyrie on linux lately?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> !apt
[00:20] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:20] <Dr_willis> I cant say that ive ever downgraded/pinned a version of an app.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> but ive seen it mentioned in the aptget howto
[00:21] <hydrogen> it's not compiling against qt for some fun reason
[00:21] <ove> test
[00:21] <Dr_willis> 4+3=?
[00:22] <sven_> 8?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> If a train leaves chichago going east at 59 miles an hr......
[00:22] <Dr_willis> whats your favorite color?
[00:23] <ove> my favorite color is white!
[00:23] <ubuntu> My external drive won't mount, it gives this error:
[00:24] <ubuntu> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[00:24] <ubuntu> Anyone know what that means?
[00:25] <jereme_> hey all... so it looks like on GG ubuntu that there is a simple preference for switching to compiz-fusion
[00:25] <jereme_> is there anything similar for kubuntu?
[00:25] <jereme_> or am I just high on the "dope" all around?
[00:25] <sven_> Is there anybody else who is having problems with the restricted driver manager? It was commented to me that this was due to the huge load the servers were getting but what I see is just a window hanging before I even press "Ok" or anything.. The url specified in that window can be downloaded without problem using wget anyway.. its a .o file, can I install that file somewhere manually so that I can get my wireless to work? please?
[00:26] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: just try inside X with aptitude then
[00:26] <sven_> jereme_, AFAIK, compiz is not yet officially supported under KDE and so they don't have a simple tool for it yet
[00:26] <ubuntu> sven_ , I was having trouble yesterday during light hours, so I waited until after dark. Worked fine then.
[00:26] <sven_> jereme_, but I have been told that kdm also has its own composite manager
[00:26] <jereme_> sven_: gotcha...
[00:26] <jereme_> hrm
[00:26] <jereme_> I'll sniff around
[00:27] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/feisty/gutsy/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:27] <h3sp4wn> ndrea: use the pastebin if there is any issues
[00:27] <sven_> ubuntu, but.. I just say "Enable driver" and then I get a window that hangs.. that really is normal?
[00:27] <sven_> ubuntu, in any case, I already got the file here.. all I need now is to know how to install it
[00:28] <ubuntu> sven_, It did the same thing for me. Reboot and see if it works in a bit
[00:28] <stardog> so....dude....what's up with kopete?
[00:28] <ubuntu> all, My external drive won't mount, it gives this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 999
[00:28] <sven_> Ubukubu, weeeeiiirrrddd
[00:29] <Dr_willis> KDE4 is to have its own composit manager
[00:29] <Dr_willis> 'kdm' is the login manager. :)
[00:29] <jereme_> I was wondering about that statement
[00:30] <Dr_willis> with linux - it pays to be very 'precise' and 'specific' :)
[00:30] <jereme_> and 'punctual'
[00:30] <Dr_willis> and polite
[00:30] <Dr_willis> and verbose yet concise.
[00:30] <jereme_> and 'not a smart ass like me'
[00:30] <Dr_willis> jereme_,  ive seen worse... today in fact.. :)
[00:30] <purpleposeidon> and to always avoid alliteration
[00:31] <Dr_willis> aparently 'i dident know what i was talking about.. since the guy i was trying to help, had NO linux knowledge whatso ever' so it was my fault i couldent dumb down 'edit a file' enough for him
[00:31] <jereme_> hrm, I did a dist-upgrade a the prompt but the distribution upgrade manager still foudn more stuff
[00:31] <jereme_> foo
[00:31] <jereme_> and I'm getting screaming download speeds of 21k/sec :)
[00:31] <Dr_willis> yep.
[00:32] <Dr_willis> thats why i normally do my 'update/upgrades' the day befor the release.. then again about a week later
[00:32] <jereme_> I was caught by surprise on this release
[00:32] <jereme_> I forgot to pay attention
[00:32] <Dr_willis> is it really that critical you be upto date right this instant? :)
[00:32] <atlfalcons866> ##windows
[00:33] <Dr_willis> !windows
[00:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[00:33] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: next time just get him to load emacs and type M-x doctor
[00:34] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Brewery offers lifetime supply of beer in return for stolen laptop
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Now thats a Reward!
[00:34] <jereme_> Dr_willis: nope, I just don't have any other pending emergency projects at work, so I figured the end of a friday is as good as any day
[00:34] <jereme_> plus I only have 2 packages to grab, I've already got the rest
[00:34] <rafiki> apo!
[00:34] <Dr_willis> and polite and patient. :)
[00:34] <rafiki> õóëåòóä?
[00:35] <jereme_> "hey brian!  my alphabets are talking to me... they're saying, 'oooooooooooooooooooooo...'"   "Peter, those are cheerios."
[00:37] <h3sp4wn> Anyone played with the new kernel build infrastructure in gutsy
[00:38] <Dr_willis> i aint had to mess with the kernel since i switched to ubuntu. :)
[00:38] <h3sp4wn> I want either cfs or sd scheduler
[00:38] <h3sp4wn> I notice it being not quite right
[00:39] <atlfalcons866> !offtopic
[00:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:42] <purpleposeidon> How do do you reinstall grub?
[00:45] <jereme_> hrm, the upgrade wants to uninstall my running kernel headers
[00:45] <g-hennux> hi!
[00:46] <g-hennux> i have just installed kubuntu gutsy (was on gentoo before) and my bash prompt highlighting does not work any more
[00:46] <g-hennux> i used all of my old .bash files, but it simply does not change the prompt color
[00:46] <Dr_willis> g-hennux,  try a simple script that sets the prompt and source it.
[00:47] <Dr_willis> could be simple thing like the .bahrc or .bash_profile not getting read from the terminal
[00:47] <g-hennux> Dr_willis: oh, sorry, forget that, my fault... stupid me had not set the prompt color in .bashrc, but in /etc/bash_bashrc or so, which of course was not taken over
[00:48] <g-hennux> is there a good way to get a really old java version (1.1 or 1.2) on this machine? preferrable via apt?
[00:48] <seriekrock> yo
[00:49] <sven_> Anybody here with knowledge of VPNs? I need to connect to our local network with VPN.. I just installed kvpnc to do this.. All I got was an ip adress, a user name and a password, no "what protocol" or anything like that so I need to figure that one out by myself.. But.. every protocol I can select needs certificates, keys, id, files, and god knows what more.. Who can tell me what I need to connect to a vpn when I only have a username, a password and a In IP?
[00:49] <g-hennux> sven_: what kind of vpn?
[00:49] <g-hennux> pptp, cisco, ...?
[00:49] <g-hennux> or anything non-proprietary? :-)
[00:50] <sven_> g-hennux, good question, they cant tell me, they dont know.. all they know is that they use "checkpoint", www.checkpoint.com.. I have no knowledge of VPN's so..
[00:51] <sven_> network guys here could not tell me, they don't know (yay)
[00:51] <wastedfluid> hey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?
[00:52] <sven_> wastedfluid, using yakuake by any chance?
[00:52] <wastedfluid> nope.
[00:53] <wastedfluid> Latest thing I installed was an older version of kmix... so the volume stuff would work.  but all i did was uninstall kmix, and install a newer version.
[00:53] <sven_> g-hennux, any VPN type you know of that only needs a name, password and IP address?
[00:53] <wastedfluid> er, uninstall kmix, and install an <older> version
[00:53] <g-hennux> sven_: hm, usually anything should... though, wait, it's *not* cisco and it's even more not pptp :-)
[00:53] <g-hennux> at least after the experience i have
[00:54] <g-hennux> maybe some simple openvpn stuff or so?
[00:54] <zolar> I still need assistance on install a pcmica card on version 7.10 please help
[00:54] <sven_> I think it was openswan actually, tried that some time ago, but got an error "only version 1.x supported" or something like that, but does the server or client only support version 1.x? in any case, I cant get openswan configured anymore with only user name, pass and up
[00:54] <sven_> up = ip
[00:54] <frank_> I upgraded to gutsy. it work fine ;)   the upgrader is not up to par though :(
[00:57] <zolar> is any one out there with knolodge of installing pcmcia network cards on 7.10
[01:00]  * BluesKaj wonders if there's a 64 bit gutsy chat
[01:01] <BrightEyes`> hello.just installed j2se with netbeans and i want to install some add-ons as well. i installed the 1st 2 packs in /home/user/ . when im trying to install BlueJ i get "nitializing InstallShield Wizard........ Searching JVM..dirname: extra operand `IDE'  Try `dirname --help' for more information." what can i do for that?
[01:01] <jereme_> hrm...  is there an easy way to change my console resolution?
[01:05] <davix> why the hell does the installer makes me format my /
[01:05]  * nosrednaekim gasps that the mirrors are slow....slower than his 26K dial-up
[01:05] <davix> it's emptey, I only have there a backup I need, and it's not dispensible
[01:06] <davix> how do I override this idiotic setting?
[01:06] <g-hennux> davix: what do you want it to do?
[01:06] <davix> to install the system to my selected root
[01:06] <davix> without formatting it
[01:07] <davix> it sais it needs to format my ext3 partition for /
[01:07] <bottiger> I just had a really horrible experience with compiz+kde (made kde really really *really* slow, while gnome was fine). After a lot of debugging I uninstalled xgl, and everything runs fine.
[01:07] <davix> I say hell no, I've already installed 3 systems without formatting the /
[01:07] <davix> one after the other
[01:07] <kotelo> i have a question
[01:07] <bottiger> Have you tried of anything like that?
[01:07] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:07] <kotelo> help please
[01:07] <g-hennux> the ati drivers that come with gutsy are not aiglx-enabled, right?
[01:08] <bottiger> g-hennux: no
[01:08] <bottiger> g-hennux: or right
[01:08] <davix> try the feisty way bottiger http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/2007/04/beryl-in-feisty-with-xgl.html
[01:08] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:08] <kotelo> somebody?
[01:08] <g-hennux> davix: thanks :-)
[01:08] <davix> np hope u score it
[01:08] <davix> it's really good looking
[01:09] <vellakd> How do I check what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: hmm - I have nvidia.
[01:09] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:09] <zolar> is no one there who know pcmicia network card intallation
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: but compiz works great now
[01:09] <davix> bottiger, level with me right now
[01:09] <kotelo> please answer me
[01:09] <kotelo> xD
[01:09] <davix> did you concider using google?
[01:09] <g-hennux> bottiger: but, does that also mean that i cannot have those cool 3d-effects with gutsy outofthebox?
[01:09] <bottiger> davix: it was just the xgl+kde which was slow
[01:09] <kotelo> helloo....
[01:10] <davix> oh god. apparently I'm in the wrong channel.
[01:10] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:10] <adz21c> kotelo look for compiz in adept manager/package manager of ur choice
[01:10] <kotelo> how i can install compiz fusion or beryl in kubuntu gutsy?
[01:10] <davix> listen xgl+kde is possible
[01:10] <bottiger> g-hennux: no, just use xgl
[01:10] <scrottles> hi
[01:10] <zolar> how do you change you alias on this
[01:10] <davix> hint hint, libGL
[01:10] <kotelo> adz21c, if i do something like an.... apt-get install compiz-kde , this will install compiz fusion?
[01:11] <scrottles> i installed swf-player   and mozilla-plugin-gnash  yet i still cannot get it working on firefox
[01:11] <davix> g-hennux can you help me with the installer?
[01:11] <scrottles> using you tube to test.
[01:11] <scrottles> what are the package names to get flash working with firefox ?
[01:11] <adz21c> kotelo: i think it will install compiz, from what i know compiz fusion is just some plugins (that were and were not beryl) u use with compiz
[01:11] <scrottles> using apt-get
[01:12] <adz21c> flashnonfreee i think or something like that
[01:12] <jereme_> compiz-fusion is the merger of compiz and beryl
[01:12] <jereme_> beryl was a fork off of the original compiz project
[01:12] <g-hennux> davix: i suppose the reason is that you don't want to lose your homedir?
[01:12] <jereme_> eventually they decided to rejoin forces
[01:12] <davix> yeah
[01:12] <jereme_> so compiz-fusion != compiz per say
[01:12] <adz21c> yea but i think most of the beryl stuff was converted to compiz plugins
[01:12] <davix> g-hennux since when does a distro forces a format? (ahem)
[01:13] <jereme_> still compiz-fusion and compiz are not exactly equal, and packages are named appropriately
[01:13] <g-hennux> davix: hm, don't know, i'd like to do a format to have a clean install anyway
[01:14] <davix> oh lord, nevermind eyecandy now
[01:14] <davix> g-hennux many would, yet some undeniable portion wouldn't
[01:14] <moofoo> what was the url for the updated kopete/kdelibs deb again?
[01:14] <g-hennux> davix: so, to conclude, no idea how to get around that :-)
[01:14] <davix> :)
[01:14] <moofoo> or is it already in the repos?
[01:15] <Angelus> when im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S
[01:15] <[Relic]> if I want to set up all the fonts and look as "root" so every user uses the same look to begin with, what do I need to run?
[01:16] <davix> ui
[01:16] <zolar> I have tried every thing and can not get the wireless networking on kubuntu 7.10  what is wrong
[01:17] <donsdw> After upgrade, where are my old Kubuntu files?
[01:17] <flake> how do i do anonymous browsing?
[01:20] <CrazyPoultry> sorry if this sounds stupid, but i was trying to install the kde4 beta, and during the install my dog stepped on the mouse and managed to close the konsole window, now if i try to use apt-get i get an unavalible error, any ideas on how to fix that?
[01:21] <CrazyPoultry> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) is the error
[01:21] <Jucato> !aptfix | CrazyPoultry
[01:21] <ubotu> CrazyPoultry: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:21] <NickPresta> Greetings, #Kubuntu.
[01:21] <noir> Hello.
[01:22] <Jucato> Greetings! Live long and prosper! :)
[01:22] <Angelus> when im booting into kubuntu, the monitor turns off instead of the bootup splash, then it turns back on with the kde login screen, any help please? :S
[01:22] <CrazyPoultry> Jucato: thanks
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> does !tell foo about bar work here
[01:22] <Toma-> ...why does adept keep doing that?
[01:22] <iss_student> How do I turn on desktop effects in Kubuntu?
[01:22] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: yep. or !bar > foo
[01:22] <NickPresta> heh. Any specific pages that deal with setting up Twinview in Gutsy? My nvidia-settings application provides only one panel and it's the settings panel...
[01:22] <Jucato> !compiz | iss_student
[01:22] <ubotu> iss_student: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:23] <Jucato> Toma-: doing what?
[01:23] <adz21c> Angelus: what graphics card do you have? cos for me personally I had to disable to splash else I couldn't even get into gutsy
[01:23] <Toma-> Jucato➔ leaving the system in a broken state
[01:23] <wastedfluid> hey, my x session keeps crashing.. it's jst random.. screne turns black, and it re-loads kde.. where do i go about starting to troubleshoot this?
[01:23] <Jucato> Toma-: actually it's doing that to prevent leaving the system in a broken state
[01:23] <Jucato> and it's not Adept, it's APT that does it
[01:24] <[Relic]> firefox 2 or 3 the best to install now?  just wondering if 3 is stable enough for use
[01:24] <adz21c> NickPresta: I couldn't say tbh but if you give me an idea what your looking for and pastebin your xorg.conf i could give u an example of what I might do if you wish?
[01:24] <kudar> just installed kubuntu 7.10. having wireless problems
[01:24] <Toma-> Jucato➔ hehe how ironic
[01:24] <Jucato> [Relic]: don't think there's firefox 3 yet in the repos. still in beta
[01:24] <noir> Alright, I'm brand new to Linux, and am finding that Kubuntu does not like my USB speakers.
[01:24] <noir> Any ideas?
[01:24] <[Relic]> Jucato: firefox-3.0 (dev version) is listed in adept
[01:25] <NickPresta> adz21c, thank you for offering help. I've actually had a Twinview setup in Feisty for the last 10 months. But after the upgrade to Gutsy, it stopped working (no dual displays) and nvidia-settings provides no help
[01:25] <Angelus> adz21c: i have geforce 8400GS, and dw i couldn't boot into kubuntu with its default driver. i had to install them from nvidia's site :p
[01:25] <Jucato> [Relic]: ah I see. if you need stability, Fx 2
[01:25] <kudar> any wireless utilities for kubuntu 7.10?
[01:25] <mike-kubunt1> hey, i installed a custum version of fglrx via .deb's but i'd like to go back to the stock ones and i'm not sure how
[01:26] <adz21c> Angelus: yes I have the 8800 and I found it hard enough to get the CD to begin the install, i found it just hates the splash screen, even in feisty
[01:26] <mike-kubunt1> i blacklisted fglrx but it wasn't in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:26] <[Relic]> Jucato: thanks  :)
[01:26] <mike-kubunt1> it was somewhere else with a blacklist variable like "BLACKLIST="fglrx""
[01:27] <kudar> ok... well this is helpful
[01:27] <Jucato> Toma-: it's like this, everytime something uses APT or dpkg, the APT database is locked so that nothing else could use it. When something abruptly stops it, it also locks the database in order not to leave the system in an inconsistent state (it also doesn't continue the installation of the package that was abruptly interrupted).
[01:27] <adz21c> NickPresta: I always found the nvidia-settings annoying as hell. Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a rendering issue with twinview where one monitor would render slower than the other? like u could see videos rendering?
[01:27] <kudar> pm me if you can help me connect to wireless with security
[01:27] <NickPresta> adz21c, no, the setup worked quite flawlessly, which is why I'm so disappointed that it isn't working now :)
[01:28] <Toma-> Jucato➔ yes i know all that, but whats triggering adept to crash? i got that error and i think think adept even crashed
[01:28] <Jucato> ah well that's another matter :)
[01:28] <Toma-> :D
[01:28] <adz21c> NickPresta: ok, cos I did, was annoying, I ended up falling back to Xinerama (which supposively is slower but seems smoother to me) but, no compiz now :(
[01:29] <donsdw> After upgrading from Feisty, I do not know where my old Kubuntu files are.  What is the command that shows all the partitions?
[01:30] <lido76-06> hello is there anybody for a good conversation
[01:30] <Jucato> !offtopic | lido76-06
[01:30] <ubotu> lido76-06: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:30] <Jucato> donsdw: which kubuntu files are you looking for exactly?
[01:31] <lido76-06> and what happens next?
[01:31] <donsdw> Jucato: all of them.  Right now all the directories are empty.
[01:31] <mike-kubunt1> fglrx wont detect my card
[01:31] <mike-kubunt1> it says its using mesa
[01:31] <Jucato> donsdw: all? but you were able to boot into Kubuntu?
[01:31] <Toma-> can you move the navigation bar into the toolbar in dolphin?
[01:31] <donsdw> I may have lost them, but I don't think so.
[01:31] <Jucato> Toma-: which navigation bar?
[01:32] <Toma-> Jucato➔ the one that has "/home/toma" and such in it
[01:32] <Jucato> in what app I mean?
[01:32] <Toma-> dolphin
[01:32] <Toma-> (file manager)
[01:32] <donsdw> Yes I can boot. I just do not have anything in my home directory except Desktop, which is empty.
[01:33] <Jucato> donsdw: you just upgraded from feisty or is a fresh install? and do you have your /home on another partition?
[01:33] <donsdw> I misspoke when I said *all* directories.
[01:33] <NickPresta> For some reason, my "windows" key has been unmapped. It does nothing. Any idea how to fix that?
[01:33] <rc-1> anyone know where ktorrent stores the torrent files?
[01:33] <donsdw> I meant all my old files.
[01:33] <donsdw> Upgraded.
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> NickPresta: with xev right ?
[01:34] <Jucato> Toma-: Ctrl+L switches from the breadcrumb toolbar to the editable location bar
[01:34] <mike-kubunt1> how do you force apt to install somthing thats already there
[01:34] <mike-kubunt1> i want to force it to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:34] <Jucato> donsdw: hm.. that would be weird...
[01:34] <donsdw> I think (hope) my old /home is in a partition which I cannot see.
[01:35] <donsdw> Oh no.  I hoped that was normal.
[01:35] <adz21c> mike-kubunt1: apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:35] <Jucato> donsdw: so /home is on a different partition?
[01:35] <donsdw> I hope so, Jucato.
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> wowsers - plugged in a new printer.. and a dialog poped up and installed it. :) kooka also saw my scannre right off..
[01:35] <NickPresta> sorry, h3sp4wn, X decides to crash at random intervals since the upgrade =(
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> Its getting where linxu works better then windows. :)
[01:35] <Jucato> donsdw: perhaps it's not mounted anymore. you can check with "mount" command to see if it's mounted.
[01:36] <donsdw> But I think I have to mount the correct one, but my linux is very limited.
[01:36] <Jucato> donsdw: you hope so?err... you should know of /home is on another partition since you're the one who set it up when you first installed...
[01:36] <mike-kubunt1> adz21c: it says it is not possible since it cannot be downloaded
[01:36] <h3sp4wn> NickPresta: was you using xev to see if its detected >?
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> "Your Linux-Fu is Weak Grasshopper..." :)
[01:36] <adz21c> mike-kubunt1: you may need to enable the appropriate repo
[01:37] <donsdw> I tried mount.  I will take a look.  Thanks, Jucato.
[01:37] <lido76-14> Helllooooooo
[01:37] <lido76-03> hi, little girl
[01:38] <donsdw> Jucato, when I set up /home, I did under Feisty.  Now with the new one, /home is empty.
[01:38] <iss_student>    I was so impressed with beryl before and I upgraded to Kubuntu and now I can't get the desktop cube to wrk at ll
[01:38] <Jucato> donsdw: when you set it up in feisty, was it on another partition?
[01:38] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[01:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:39] <seriekrock> anyone knows why it feels like the internet connection is faster in linux than in windows
[01:39] <seriekrock> ?
[01:39]  * Dr_willis_ really dosent see the point of the cube. :)
[01:39] <Dr_willis_> seriekrock,  the whole system is faster. :)
[01:39] <Jucato> donsdw: because simply upgrading to gutsy will not modify that. unless you re-installed
[01:39] <donsdw> Will the mount command show unmounted partitions?  If not, what is the command that does?
[01:39] <dystopianray> seriekrock: becuase you are subconciously eager to find ways that linux is better than windows?
[01:39] <Jucato> donsdw: nope it doesn't show those
[01:39] <seriekrock> Dr_willis_: yeah :)
[01:40] <seriekrock> dystopianray: lol
[01:40] <donsdw> Thanks for your feedback, Jucato.
[01:41] <donsdw> Does anyone know the command that shows unmounted partitions?
[01:42] <andr3x> Hi
[01:42] <lido76-03> lu
[01:42] <seriekrock> hi
[01:42] <lido76-14> lu
[01:42] <dystopianray> donsdw: sudo fdisk -l ?
[01:43] <Lars_G> Short question, what's the kernel side package equivalent to the nvidia-glx-new xorg side package?
[01:44] <Lars_G> That is, which deb has the restricted module for the 100 glx driver
[01:44] <Jucato> linux-restricted-modules-
[01:45] <Lars_G> Jucato: that has a version it seems compatible with nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new
[01:45] <Jucato> Lars_G: you can install linux-restricted-modules-generic so that you'll always have the one for your kernel, even when the kernel updates
[01:45] <Jucato> it's for all
[01:45] <Jucato> (it should be)
[01:45] <Lars_G> Hmmm ok I'll try reinstalling those
[01:46] <secleinteer> does anyone know why kubuntu gutsy is asking me if i want to upgrade to gutsy?
[01:46] <Toma-> kcheckgmail is meant to habe an icon in the systray right?
[01:46] <Jucato> secleinteer: yeah. kinda funny, but harmless
[01:46] <secleinteer> Jucato: will it go away if i let it 'upgrade'?
[01:46] <Jucato> it won't do anything
[01:46] <secleinteer> alright
[01:47] <seriekrock> secleinteer: why shouldnt you upgrade?
[01:47] <Mexflubber> hi .. how do I install X-chat ?
[01:47] <root_> ok... just installed 7.10. wireless is slow as crap
[01:47] <donsdw> dystopianray: Yes! and cat /proc/partitions.  Thanks!
[01:47] <secleinteer> seriekrock: read what i said again - already have gutsy, but it's asking me to upgrade to gutsy
[01:47] <root_> any wireless utils on kubuntu?
[01:47] <seriekrock> secleinteer: lol ok
[01:48] <Mexflubber> hi .. how do I install X-chat ?
[01:48] <secleinteer> Mexflubber: sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:48] <secleinteer> or search for it in adept
[01:48] <Jucato> Mexflubber: in Add/Remove Programs, look for it
[01:48] <Jucato> xchat or x-chat
[01:49] <Delphinus> whats the secret to getting compiz going in kubuntu gutsy please?
[01:49] <Jucato> !compiz | Delphinus
[01:49] <ubotu> Delphinus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:49] <Delphinus> thanks Jucato
[01:50] <mcrandello> Hi trying to mount my / from the livecd and getting hal-storage-fised-mount refused uid 999. Even after running dolphin using kdesu. Any suggestions?
[01:50] <Mexflubber> Jucato ... where is Add/Remove Programs in kubuntu ?
[01:50] <Jucato> Mexflubber: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[01:51] <Lars_G> Jucato: just so you know I reinstalled restricted modules, now I modprobe nvidia and nvidia-glx can't initialize the module (no version error like before) but nvidia-glx-new works.. ah well.
[01:51] <Lars_G> See you from irssi again, but in Xorg
[01:52] <wilson> does anyone know how to fix this :    Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:52] <Mexflubber> Jucato ... tx
[01:52] <wilson> i get that when i do apt-get update
[01:52] <PasNox> evening
[01:53] <verboy> Hello i am a newbi in linux world
[01:53] <PasNox> i'm running gusty rc and want to upgrade to official gusty, but upgrade tool tell there is no upgrade available for my computer, how i can do ?
[01:53] <verboy> i have a problem in installation of Kubuntu
[01:53] <verboy> Can anyone help me
[01:53] <verboy> ?
[01:54] <PasNox> witch problem ?
[01:54] <seriekrock> !anybody
[01:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:54] <PasNox> !anybody
[01:54] <seriekrock> !anybody @ verboy
[01:54] <PasNox> !anybody @ pasnox
[01:54] <root_> problem: wireless is very slow
[01:54] <verboy> !anybody
[01:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:55] <PasNox> !anybody @ verboy
[01:55] <verboy> !anybody @ verboy
[01:55] <PasNox> hm don't working ;)
[01:55] <mcrandello> or- for some reason after installing I reboot and get console instead of X. I'd probably be able to fix it but the console font is stupid-big and I can only see part of the "screen"
[01:55] <PasNox> verboy: !anybody
[01:55] <wilson> ubotu: er, ok ill try a different mirror, thanks
[01:56] <verboy> !anybody
[01:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:56] <Jucato> !thanks | wilson
[01:56] <ubotu> wilson: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:56] <wilson> oh, it's a retarded bot some retard made talk
[01:56] <PasNox> verboy: how u do ?
[01:56] <verboy> !anybody fine
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anybody fine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <verboy> fine
[01:56] <PasNox> !anybody verboy
[01:56] <Jucato> PasNox: if you were on gutsy rc and just upgraded daily, you'd be in final
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anybody verboy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <verboy> when i boot from cd and i want to choose intallation
[01:57] <PasNox> Jucato: nop, there is no french translation available for kde :|
[01:57] <verboy> it is loading kernel and reboot
[01:57] <PasNox> so it s not up to date, and upgrade tool tell there is no update :|
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> !update
[01:57] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:58] <Jucato> PasNox: can you ask in #kubuntu-fr if they're having the same problems?
[01:58] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade
[01:58] <hydrogen> !downgrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[01:58] <hydrogen> !sidegrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sidegrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <hydrogen> !roadgrade
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <Jucato> PasNox: but as long as you updated daily since RC, your system is in final already
[01:58] <Jucato> !botabuse | hydrogen
[01:58] <ubotu> hydrogen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:58] <Jucato> :P
[01:58] <verboy> !anybody When I install Kubuntu it reboot
[01:58] <hydrogen> !don'tbotspammebecauseitskindofrudeinmynotsohumbleopinion | Jucato
[01:58] <PasNox> i have no compiz fusion actiavate, no french translation, i think i'm not up to date, but i always update when thre is updaet available :|
[01:59] <hydrogen> :\
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> verboy,  how.. vague. :)  what installer/cd are you using? any other related error messages?
[01:59] <Jucato> PasNox: there is no compiz-fusion installed by default for kubuntu
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[01:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[01:59] <mcrandello> anyone?
[01:59] <Dr_willis_> The NEW FAQ #1  - wheres my compiz!
[01:59] <Jucato> PasNox: as for french translations, you'd have to ask in #kubuntu-fr
[01:59] <verboy> no nothing I select intallation it is loading and black screen and reboot
[01:59] <hydrogen> The new answer... compiz is overrated.
[01:59] <verboy> the new kubuntu 710
[02:00] <Jucato> hydrogen: that's the old answer :)
[02:00] <PasNox> what mean overrated ?
[02:00] <hydrogen> Jucato: oh, the same answer than
[02:00] <Jucato> :D
[02:00] <intelikey> that was my answer 2 years ago.
[02:00] <mike-kubunt1> hey are there any repos with an fglrx drive above version 8.40?
[02:00] <verboy> What can I do?
[02:00] <root_> why nobody want to help me with wireless?
[02:00] <secleinteer> yeah, compiz is overrated
[02:00] <hydrogen> intelikey: regretably you have a lot of wrong answers :/
[02:00] <rc-1> if i reinstall kubuntu, and backup my home directory, should ktorrent torrents still work?
[02:01] <Jucato> !wireless | root_
[02:01] <ubotu> root_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:01] <secleinteer> used to have it, well beryl, but it just got annoying
[02:01] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: fglrx isn't meant for most ati cards
[02:01] <intelikey> hydrogen so you say.
[02:01] <NightBird> er...8.41
[02:01] <hydrogen> intelikey: well, yea
[02:01] <verboy> !help
[02:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:01] <hydrogen> intelikey: I thought that much was obvious :)
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> It's only overrated for people that think it's really anything more than "Ooh, shiny"
[02:01] <NightBird> fglrx 8.41 isn't meant for most ati cards
[02:01] <Ange|us> is it posible to install a 32bit browser and a 32bit mplayer on kubuntu guys ??
[02:01] <hydrogen> Dragnslcr: or those who think "ooh, shiny" is overrated
[02:01] <secleinteer> Dragnslcr: it's exactly because it's nothing more than 'ooh, shiny' that it's overrated
[02:01] <Jucato> Ange|us: of course. but are you using 64-bit?
[02:01] <verboy> can anyone help me?
[02:01] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: it's meant for mine, 200x express, only thing with close to 3d support for it
[02:02] <Jucato> !patience | verboy
[02:02] <ubotu> verboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:02] <RipRapRob> Hi all
[02:02] <Ange|us> yes Jucato im using 64bit
[02:02] <verboy> ok sorry ubotu
[02:02] <secleinteer> ubotu's a bot :P
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s a bot :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: actually, 200 express cards aren't supported in the 8.41 driver.  8.42 will see support added back in(as well as aiglx support)
[02:02] <Jucato> !64bit | Ange|us
[02:02] <ubotu> Ange|us: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:02] <Jucato> !flash64
[02:02] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:02] <secleinteer> verboy: try the forums if nobody here can help
[02:02] <Jucato> that too
[02:02] <intelikey> verboy have you tried booting with the frame buffering disabled ?
[02:03] <verboy> how intelikey?
[02:03] <intelikey> i.e.  remove "splash" from the kernel line,
[02:03] <Ange|us> thanks Jucato
[02:03] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: if you want 8.41(though you should wait for 8.42, it should be out in a few days...), you will have to go to the ati driver, locate and install it yourself
[02:03] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: what repos would i add so i get the 8.42 driver as soon as possible though, i'm not failiar with kubuntus way of handling testing packages
[02:04] <RipRapRob> Test
[02:04]  * intelikey corrects.  that doesn't disable fb  but i "should" cause it to "hot be active"
[02:04] <mike-kubunt1> NightBird: thanks
[02:04] <NightBird> mike-kubunt1: my guess is 8.42 will be added pretty quickly to the repos
[02:04] <intelikey> not
[02:04] <RipRapRob> Test
[02:04] <mcrandello> intelikey, would that help my problem also?
[02:05] <intelikey> mcrandello what is your problem ?
[02:05] <mcrandello> stupidly huge fonts in the consoles that wind up cutting off, so the command prompt is offscreen
[02:05] <verboy> intelikey it says buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[02:05] <RipRapRob> Hi al - I'm trying to install KDE 4.0 under Kubuntu 7.10. Anyone know a guide for doing this? I've tried by using the Adept installer, but I can't seem to invoke KDE 4.0.
[02:05] <intelikey> mcrandello very likely then.
[02:05] <NightBird> !kde4 | RipRapRob
[02:06] <ubotu> RipRapRob: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[02:06] <hydrogen> RipRapRob: It's not worth the effort at this point
[02:06] <Ange|us> jucato, what about mplayer 32bit ?
[02:06] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, there is a link to the kde4 beta3 packages in the gusty release page at kubuntu.org
[02:06] <Jucato> Ange|us: that I don't know
[02:06] <mcrandello> intelikey, I'll try that, thanks
[02:06] <Ange|us> Jucato: to be able to use win32 codecs
[02:06] <adz21c> Ange|us: what do you need 32bit player for?
[02:06] <intelikey> verboy ok that's a  elterito problem   i don't have an answer for that yet.   and it seems to be a recurring problem or i talked to you yesterday  one.
[02:07] <Ange|us> adz21c: for win32 codecs
[02:07] <adz21c> Ange|us: w64 are available
[02:07] <Ange|us> O_o
[02:07] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: Ok, I'll look for that. Thanks!
[02:07] <Ange|us> win64 codecs?
[02:07] <Ange|us> O_o
[02:07] <adz21c> yup
[02:07] <Ange|us> never heard of them
[02:07] <adz21c> www.medibuntu.org
[02:07] <_luke_> I'm trying to do an upgrade from Fiesty to Gutsy.... but in the middle of the upgrade it complaines that the debconf install seg-faulted, then that it couldn't install X11... and now its stuck on libdbus-1-dev
[02:07] <intelikey> mcrandello you can use a vga=  on the kernel line   set to   vga=0x0f04    should be standard text mode.
[02:07] <adz21c> since vista came out microsoft released a x64 media player so the libs became available
[02:07] <adz21c> i think
[02:08] <adz21c> regardless they are there
[02:08] <feierfox> how to shutdown my system with command-line?
[02:08] <Lars_G> Sigh ok I give up. I'll need to rebuild my xorg.conf, anybody willing to give me a hand?
[02:08] <Ange|us> wrong adz21c , windows 64bit uses 32bit browser and player
[02:08] <feierfox> (time-delay)
[02:08] <Ange|us> adz21c: i can't find no   win64 codecs in adept
[02:08] <_luke_> feierfox: sudo halt
[02:08] <Lars_G> feierfox: sudo shutdown -h now
[02:09] <adz21c> well, w64 codecs are there and i use wmv9 in x64 kaffeine fine
[02:09] <Jucato> !xconfig | Lars_G
[02:09] <ubotu> Lars_G: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[02:09] <adz21c> Ange|us: www.medibuntu.org
[02:09] <Ange|us> whats the package adz21c
[02:09] <Jucato> Lars_G: to rebuild it
[02:09] <Ange|us> whats the package name adz21c ? *
[02:09] <Lars_G> this is my current. dirty config. It works but for two details. http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8008/xorg.conf
[02:09] <adz21c> Ange|us: "w64codecs"
[02:09] <_luke_> anyone got any ideas what I should do now? will the apt-get dist-upgrade finish the upgrade?
[02:09] <Lars_G> Jucato: I have, eh... peculiar needs.
[02:09] <intelikey> mcrandello  i can't resite all the vga= code of the top of my head but    0x0f0<345>  are good text modes and  771 779 791 793 799  are good graphic modes  you can play around with them...
[02:09] <Jucato> Lars_G: well you can always manually do it :)
[02:09] <dystopianray> there are no win64 codecs
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: I have a dual monitor, which I want to handle as separate screens with xinerama.
[02:10] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I've actually tried doing like stated on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php, but how do I start KDE 4 when I'm done?
[02:10] <Jucato> ah ok :)
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: I did, and it's not causing a few problems
[02:10] <adz21c> then its some sort of workaround, but its there and they work
[02:10]  * Jucato hands off dual monitors...
[02:10] <Ange|us> adz21c: did you add some other repos ? i can't find them here
[02:10] <feierfox> and with time-delay Lars_G ?
[02:10] <Lars_G> Jucato: it "used to work before"
[02:10] <adz21c> Ange|us: www.medibuntu.org
[02:10] <wilson> what are the w32 dcodecs ? are they for wine or something ? or are they wmv support or something ?
[02:11] <Lars_G> feierfox: time delay meaning... you want to shut down in 10 mintues? drop the "now", check man shutdown, you can specify a wait time.
[02:11] <adz21c> Ange|us: thats a repo that has various packages that are "iffy"
[02:11] <adz21c> wmv support
[02:11] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, pay attention to that lass bulleted instruction
[02:11] <Lars_G> wilson: they're video codecs from windows to be used by linux video libraries and players
[02:11] <adz21c> Ange|us: when i say iffy i mean ubuntu can't ship them due to license
[02:11] <Lars_G> in short, wmv support, quicktime support and a few other propietary closed codecs
[02:11] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, after you've done that there should be an "options" or "settings" menu at the login screen
[02:11] <Lars_G> Jucato: Any place but this where you'd suggest I get the needed nvidia help?
[02:12] <wilson> sorry, isn't that included in kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:12] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, you should see an option for kde4 in there
[02:12] <Jucato> Lars_G: no clue... it usually "just works" for me
[02:12] <Lars_G> Jucato: ok
[02:12] <Jucato> wilson: what is?
[02:12] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I can't find that option :(
[02:12] <feierfox> want to shutdown my system in one hour, what is the command-line, i have to use
[02:12] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I can only find KDE
[02:13] <wilson> ahh, i see it doesn't, only dvd playback
[02:13] <Jucato> wilson: no, w32codecs aren't included in restricted-extras
[02:13] <intelikey> i think i set something incorrectly.  internet is exscreemly slow on the third level lan
[02:13] <Jucato> because of legal restrictions
[02:13] <dystopianray> ffmpeg already has wmv support
[02:13] <adz21c> w32/64codecs wont be as u need a legit copy of windows to use them
[02:13] <dystopianray> no need for w32codecs just for wmv
[02:13] <adz21c> hence ubuntu doiesn't ship it
[02:13] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, you copied /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop?
[02:13] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: yes
[02:13] <adz21c> dystopianray: up to version 8 i think so yes, but not 9 i don't think so
[02:14] <dystopianray> adz21c: all wmv versions are supported: wmv1, wmv2, wmv3 and vc-1
[02:14] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, after you do that you have to edit the kde4.desktop with your fav. text editor and change the "name" field. you'll see it in there
[02:14] <nexano> anyone else in here having trouble with GeForce 7800 drivers? i cant seem to be able to use any other then Vesa :/
[02:15] <adz21c> dystopianray: even wmv9? as I am sure it doesn't support that
[02:15] <NickPresta> Can anyone tell me and help me figure out why whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf?
[02:15] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: I did that. I'll have to tripple check. Thanks!
[02:15] <dystopianray> adz21c: there is no 'wmv9' you're likely thinking of wmv3 and yes it does support that
[02:15] <dystopianray> adz21c: it also supports vc-1 which is the wmv3 superset used in HD-DVD and blu-ray
[02:15] <wilson> the 'rip video dvd' option doesn't work for me in k3b, it just opens the video_ts directroy. Is this normal behaviour in kubuntu ? i'm pretty sure i installed all the needed packages
[02:16] <Lars_G> Btw I had to finish the upgrade by hand
[02:16] <mcrandello> RipRapRob, if you've gone over the entries and made sure it's all correct then instead of logging out try using <ctrl><alt><bkspc> to kill the xserver. That will force kdm to reload its settings
[02:16] <intelikey> NickPresta kernel version/module mismatch ?
[02:16] <adz21c> dystopianray: fair enough
[02:16] <wilson> i think they should just remove that option from k3b, i played around with it a few weeks ago , compiling from source, and it didn't give the proper commands to transcode anyway
[02:16] <Lars_G> and I notice my KDE theme has some icons or graphics missing
[02:16] <Lars_G> like for example during startup the spinner will show some icons, and others will show as a generic "page"
[02:16] <NickPresta> intelikey, I don't think so. I've reinstalled the driver three times. Twice, I used the restricted-manager and once I did a manual install. No dice either way
[02:17] <intelikey> NickPresta hmmm.  is the /etc/X11/xorg.conf being changed on ya /
[02:17] <RipRapRob> mcrandello: Everything looks OK. I've even tried restarting. I'll try the CTRL ALT BACKSPACE. Thanks again for your patience!
[02:17] <wilson> there's mencoder, ffmeg, dvd95 , k9copy
[02:17] <BluesKaj> looking for ppl who have google earth running on Gutsy 64 using ATI
[02:17] <NickPresta> intelikey, nope. "nvidia" is still listed...
[02:18] <Lars_G> Any tips for that please?
[02:18] <Lars_G> BluesKaj: do ATI finally provide 64bit linux drivers?
[02:18] <intelikey> NickPresta one more "stab in the dark" here.   don't have a oops copy of xorg.conf in your /root/  do you ?
[02:18] <NightBird> Lars_G: they have for awhile now
[02:18] <root_> takes forever to refreh network settings for wireless... and wireless is slow
[02:18] <NickPresta> intelikey, nope. /root/ is empty
[02:19] <Lars_G> NightBird: cool. I had stopped tracking ati
[02:19] <Lars_G> NightBird: And now, I have troubles with my beloved nvidia :P
[02:19] <intelikey> well that pretty much spent my 'least possable info' trubble shooting.   check the logs.
[02:20] <scrottles> hi
[02:20] <scrottles> how do i un-ignore a repo?  cant seem to find it in a man page.
[02:20] <scrottles> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[02:21] <intelikey> scrottles remove the comment char   (#)  from before it.
[02:21] <intelikey> oh
[02:21] <NickPresta> intelikey, dmesg and syslog don't show anything related to nvidia or X in general...
[02:22] <Lars_G> NickPresta: those are in /var/log/Xorg.x.log
[02:22] <Lars_G> x is a number
[02:22] <Lars_G> do a ls -l and the log with today's date is the right one
[02:23] <scrottles> oh in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <scrottles> thanx pal
[02:23] <Lars_G> scrottles: after you uncomment it, remember to do an sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <scrottles> right
[02:24] <rickey> who here has finished there upgrade to gusty , i need to know if there old personal files from 7.o4 was broth over to 7.10 or did they lose them?
[02:24] <scrottles> !nvidia
[02:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <mcrandello> rickey, is your /home on it's own partition?
[02:25] <rickey> no i dont think so
[02:25] <NickPresta> Lars_G, thanks. I checked the log and everything seems to have worked. Twinview was enabled, the metamodes were set properly, etc...
[02:26] <mcrandello> rickey, if you do an an upgrade through apt it shouldn't touch them. If you decide to reinstall from CD I would back up everything first.
[02:26] <mcrandello> rickey, but then I would back up everything anyway, because I'm paranoid ;^)
[02:26] <Lars_G> NickPresta: What's your problem?
[02:26] <NickPresta> Lars_G, whenever I start the computer/login, my nvidia driver is disabled despite it being installed and in my xorg.conf. I run nvidia-settings and it tells me that I'm not using the nvidia driver.
[02:26] <rickey> i do have sommetime to put somestuff on a cd ,before the  full upgrade  takes place
[02:27] <rickey> ok i did go though apt
[02:27] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I think it's not disabled. you're using nvidia-glx-new right?
[02:28] <rickey> thanks
[02:28] <NickPresta> Lars_G, yep, for my 7900 GS
[02:28] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I get the same with nvidia-settings and my nvidia is working well except for one error I'm having. From what I saw from aptitude when installing it seems the nvidia-settings up there works with nvidia-glx but not nvidia-glx-new
[02:29] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option.
[02:29] <Lars_G> NickPresta: so it's nvidia-settings failing to recognize the driver. if you open a shell and run glxinfo it should show direct rendering on.
[02:29] <zolar1> how do you obtain a mac address in linux
[02:29] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I will try in a while, after I fix my nvidia error, to download only the lattest nvidia-settings from the nvidia page and test that
[02:29] <mcrandello> zolar1, ifconfig
[02:29] <Lars_G> zolar1: ifconfig shows it
[02:30] <zolar1> thanks
[02:30] <mcrandello> zolar1 it's called the HWaddr though
[02:30] <mcrandello> at least that's what ifconfig calls it :)
[02:30] <Lars_G> NightBird: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.
[02:30] <lee986321> ok ya I hae my either net up and running
[02:30] <NickPresta> sorry Lars_G. X crashed... Anyways, doing a `glxinfo | grep direct` shows direct rending NO
[02:31] <lee986321> its a bit unorthodox though
[02:31] <NightBird> Lars_G: can't help with nvidia difilties
[02:31] <NightBird> or with spelling either apparently
[02:31] <lee986321> lol
[02:32] <lee986321> now I ama problby the worst typest of all there lol
[02:32] <lee986321> ok well now to setting up those drivers
[02:32] <intelikey> lee986321 well actually....
[02:32] <NickPresta> sigh. Is there a recommended way to downgrade? :P
[02:32] <Lars_G> NightBird: sorry wrong autocompletion
[02:32] <Lars_G> NickPresta: oh... odd I just rand glxinfo and I get direct rendering no... but it also shows the nvidia glx lines... this is odd.
[02:33] <m00foo> gna i just finished the upgrade f->g but the nvidia module is gone.. where is it?!
[02:33] <Lars_G> NickPresta: And. I still see GLX loading correctly in Xorg.log O.o something is very very odd here
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> seems there is a chain of events here...
[02:33] <lee986321> eh I lost my monitirs manual adjust mensts this stinks
[02:34] <Lars_G> NickPresta: I might even try to remove ubuntu's nvidia module (rm by hand) and glx (dpkg -r) and use nvidia's installer. to see what happens.
[02:34] <Lars_G> bbl
[02:34] <lee986321> ok setting up a paste bin
[02:34] <wesley> how do i best install compiz fusion in 7.10
[02:34] <lee986321> !pastebin
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:34] <lee986321> ok go that running
[02:35] <lee986321> hm lsets see updates ah that its
[02:35]  * lee986321 is talking to himself dont pay it any mnd
[02:36] <scrottles> i edited /etc/apt/sources.list and i still get  lines beginning with Ign upon apt-get update
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> !compiz | wesley
[02:36] <ubotu> wesley: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[02:36] <scrottles> all that is commented is documentation and cdrom
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: what is it ignoring?
[02:39] <lee986321> ok
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: no..its not.
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:39]  * lee986321 Belches
[02:39] <seriekrock> i thought gutsy had compiz fusion installed as standard?
[02:40] <lee986321> your right that is better ahh ty
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: not kubuntu
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> =D
[02:40] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and checked 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <intelikey> scrottles yeah i tried to correct that post eariler.  it's not your sources.list per'se  it's a network issue.  either the destination or the address is kicking back a "not applicable" and apt is thus ignoring that line.   i.e. could be a server down.  and could be a bad address in the apt line   the security sight is ttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[02:40] <scrottles> http://rafb.net/p/ObHZpU74.html
[02:40] <lee986321> ok any who I am getting down to some seriouse business now..who wants to help me withthe ati codion to make sure all goes well
[02:40] <lee986321> any takers?
[02:40] <scrottles> oh ok.
[02:40] <seriekrock> nosrednaekim:  so i have to do as on that link? i cant install it with adept?
[02:41] <scrottles> i was just looking for  libdvdcss and w32codecs but i suppose they're googleable
[02:41] <scrottles> is there a difference between libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 ?
[02:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[02:41] <scrottles> which is prefered ?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: yeah.. you can install it from adept, get:  compiz-kde emerald and compiz-plugins-extra
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> 2
[02:41] <scrottles> i suppose 2
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> I think
[02:41] <BluesKaj> updated
[02:43] <intelikey> !libdvdcss2
[02:43] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: !! upgraded to gutsy yet?
[02:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i don't expect i'll ever see gutsy
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you a LTS guy?
[02:44] <scrottles> google takes me to sites to upgrade the apt.sources file for Edgy, and Dapper, im running fiesty.
[02:44] <intelikey> never saw edgy or fiesty
[02:44] <noam_> er
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: just DL the deb
[02:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim yep
[02:45] <lee986321> eh ok I need the url adress for
[02:45] <noam_> the kdelibs4-dev is reported broken in adept. i have installed the kdelibs4 update that is fixes the kopete msn crash.
[02:45] <noam_> what should i do?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> <----64bit gutsy restricted ATI driver enabled , wonder if google earth will run ...got fgl_glxgears working
[02:46] <intelikey> scrottles the differance in the sources.list is the code-name other than that they are all the same.
[02:46] <scrottles> ok i'll just swap code names.
[02:46] <[Relic]> anyone using flickr.com and firefox?  I can't figure out what I need to do to log in?  I can log in through konquer but not firefox
[02:46] <intelikey> scrottles also of note.  64bit may not have that package...  idk.
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: the 8.41 one?
[02:47] <scrottles> well im using a 32bit celleron
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> noam_: hmmmm is everything working on your system?
[02:47] <intelikey> then we may assume that that wont apply
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: no..don't saw code names...
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> *swap
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> scrottles: just download the raw deb, no repository required
[02:47] <intelikey> nosrednaekim careful.
[02:48] <noam_> nosrednaekim, as far as i can see yes
[02:48] <noam_> urgh
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: of what?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: no the one that came with the restricted package , whatever it may be ...havent checked yet
[02:48]  * nosrednaekim looks around for the MPAA
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ah ok... the 8.37.
[02:48] <intelikey> i agree that the file is a simple dl  but dont mess up his train of thought in the middle of hacking his sources.list
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> lol
[02:49] <noam_> nosrednaekim, it's just because kdelibs4-dev requires kdelibs4 version something-something-ubuntu2, and i have ubuntu3
[02:49] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim:  you running 64 bit too?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> noam_: ah... why are you installing the -dev?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah..
[02:50] <lee986321> grr i need the page that sets up the ati drivers he one i saved is missing some things
[02:50] <noam_> i just have it installed, i guess
[02:50] <BluesKaj> google earth ?
[02:50] <thomas_> I get crackling sound when I play a game that uses openal/alsa... I've tried artsd (no sound), and oss (no sound). What's the deal?
[02:50] <noam_> i haven't installed it
[02:50] <intelikey> and for the record nosrednaekim and scrottles there are links on that page that take you to a dirrect download
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> noam_: ah... well dont worry about it, it should be all fixed soon when Riddel pushes the updates
[02:51] <noam_> i see
[02:52] <lee986321> Method 2: Install the 8.41.7 Driver Manually<<<<neds the lingk for this can some one assist plese
[02:52] <lee986321> eh genii are yiou still online?
[02:52] <wesley> At some packings from compiz stands break
[02:53] <Assid> hey
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: go to the AMD/ATI site linux drivers-> select the top of the line ATI radeon HD card and you have it
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: rebooting to see how these ATI drivers work :)
[02:55] <excitatory> i'm interested in upgrading, but have a few questions: one, i have CompizFusion installed via trev1nos feisty repo.. should i purge that package and remove the repo before i upgrade?  two, should i remove XGL, including modifications to /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and the compiz startup scripts, or just let the upgrade manager take care of that?  and three, can i dist-upgrade, or should i use adept considering i have a custom sources.list??
[02:57] <thomas_> anyone else have sound issues with openal and alsa?
[02:57] <zolar1> how stable is kubuntu 7.10 ?
[02:58] <Assid> ati doesnt really need anything extra
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> yalp...ATI drivers work great
[02:58] <Assid> im using it
[02:59] <max_> right now i installed kubuntu 7.10, up to now it's running
[02:59] <Assid> you dont need to modify squat
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> no suspend... but with a 45 second boot to KDE, I can deal with that :)
[02:59] <Assid> just run compiz --replace once
[02:59] <Assid> btw... usplash is still broken
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah. pretty simple
[03:00] <lee986321> nosrednaekim I have the drivers
[03:00] <lee986321> Ooooohh
[03:01] <m00foo> has http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb made it to the repository or do i need to install it on a fresh f->g system?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> m00foo: no need to install it manually
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> *you
[03:01] <m00foo> ok
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> *you need to install it manually
[03:01] <lee986321> this isght? http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html nosrednaekim ?
[03:02] <AmyRose> Uh, what if you want to have the kdelibs-dev package installed?
[03:02] <lee986321> I have a radeo x300
[03:02] <m00foo> i suppose the headers did not change with the bugfix ;)
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: then.... ummm... you obviously don't need MSN ;)
[03:02] <Assid> err.. how do you get the damn buddy list in pidgin to NOT shot any groups?
[03:02] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Uh, not exactly
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: choose the top-of-the-line ATI radeon card
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: I'm kiddin ;)
[03:03] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: I need it to compile KDE styles
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: you get pidgen
[03:03] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Pidgin's MSN support is HORRIBLE
[03:03] <lee986321> ialso have a 64 bit machine
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: amsn then..
[03:03] <AmyRose> It doesn't even support away messages!
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> lee986321: ouch... I wouldn't try it..
[03:03] <intelikey> what are the reserved networds again ?  192.168.* 10.*  ???
[03:04] <AmyRose> intelikey: Yeah, and 172.x.y.z
[03:04] <intelikey> 174.*
[03:04] <intelikey> k
[03:04] <wesley> where do i get CompizFusionIcon for amd64
[03:04] <intelikey> is that all ?
[03:04] <AmyRose> Oh, am I wrong?
[03:04] <intelikey> AmyRose no.
[03:04] <Assid> nosrednaekim: need those drivers for ati radeon mobility 9000?
[03:04] <AmyRose> OK
[03:04] <Assid> c-cf seems working fine here
[03:04] <m00foo> intelikey: 10.*
[03:05] <intelikey> AmyRose i was guessing 174 but when i saw the 172  i have to agree.
[03:05] <m00foo> intelikey: http://www.pantz.org/networking/tcpip/privatereserved.shtml
[03:05] <Assid> hey intelikey
[03:05] <intelikey> Assid
[03:05] <AmyRose> I thought so, but I am not in IT, so I didn't know ^^;
[03:05] <Assid> AmyRose: whats wrong?
[03:05] <Assid> intelikey: ltns
[03:05] <Assid> err.. anyone know how to disable the widnwo from snapping when you move it around?
[03:06] <Assid> it snaps to the corners of the screen
[03:06] <seriekrock> kopete crashes, and i get this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41257/ , when i log on, can anyone help me?
[03:06] <m00foo> seriekrock: install  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:06] <intelikey> Assid there 'used' to be a simple proxsemity "snap to" setting in the  desktop configuration
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> install this http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:07] <mrksbrd> has anyone attempted to make a bootable iso of a backup??, what i'm looking to do is download all updates & progs, run some sort of backup of entire image, then have it bootable and be able to launch a re-install if needed
[03:07] <seriekrock> i dont have i386 system
[03:07]  * AmyRose is trying to get KDE 4 to work...
[03:07] <seriekrock> i have 64 bit system
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> seriekrock: ouch.... ask on #kubuntu-devel
[03:08] <adz21c> seriekrock: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> ahh there you go :)
[03:08] <Assid> intelikey: trying to find
[03:08] <seriekrock> adz21c: thanks :)
[03:08] <Assid> intelikey: someone screwed up in the final release
[03:08] <adz21c> np
[03:09] <Assid> usplash is broken for me
[03:09] <scrottles> whats a friendly bit-torrent program ?
[03:09] <Assid> used to work in the daily builds and beta releases
[03:09] <Assid> scrottles: deluge
[03:09] <seriekrock> scrottles: ktorrent
[03:09] <intelikey> ah 172.16.*    glad you posted that link m00foo lest i should have an open b class un-protected.
[03:09] <scrottles> thanx fellaz
[03:10] <shadowhywind> hay all i have a bit of problem. I was in the middle of the install part of the upgrade, when KDM crashed and went back to the login screen. What should do I do to continue the install?
[03:10] <Assid> stupid pidgin
[03:10] <seriekrock> cool its fixed now :)
[03:10] <Assid> i cant remove the groups
[03:10] <mrksbrd> I noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????/
[03:10] <Assid> i want to see a simple listing.. no groups.. and it dont work
[03:11] <m00foo> intelikey: it's actually 172.[16-31].* in case you over-read it ;-)
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: rerun the upgrade app..
[03:11] <intelikey> Assid yeah. each release has it's bugs.   one reason i don't upgrade much.  i'm not a pest control specialest
[03:11] <shadowhywind> it says that adept is locked
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[03:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:12] <intelikey> m00foo yeah,  no i just over simplified my post.
[03:13] <Ange|us> is it posible to install an ubuntu feisty repo on gutsy?
[03:13] <Assid> err.. why is it such a pain to get bluetooth+gprs working?
[03:13] <Assid> why cant we have a simple dialer that works
[03:14] <Jucato> Ange|us: 1. you shouldn't, 2. it will be a bit useless if a package of the same name but of a higher version exists in the gutsy repo
[03:14] <shadowhywind> ok after i ran that command, now go back to adept and re run the setup?
[03:14] <Ahmuck> !mp3
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <mrksbrd> Assid, KPPP doesn't work?
[03:14] <Assid> mrksbrd: not the last time i tried
[03:14] <Assid> will try again in a bit..
[03:14] <Ange|us> Jucato: its the smb4k repo from their site, because they provide newer versions then kubuntu's one
[03:14] <Ange|us> :p
[03:15] <Jucato> aaah 3rd party repo
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: yeah
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: and try not to do anything on your computer
[03:15] <Ange|us> so is it posible to install a 3rd party repo of feisty on gutsy?
[03:15] <RipRapRob> Can't get KDE4 to show up in logon. Have followed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php (and check 3 times). But still, KDE4 does not show up as an option. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <Assid> mrksbrd:  does your usplash work ?
[03:16] <shadowhywind> k, I wasn't really doing anything before either.. but i will mmake sure to close everything and turn off the screensaver
[03:16] <Ange|us> mine doesn't Assid
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> RipRapRob: did you add a new .dekstop file to /usr/share/xsessions?
[03:16] <mrksbrd> Assid, brain fart....usplash???
[03:16] <Assid> Ange|us: thought so
[03:17] <intelikey> mrksbrd the non-text startup thingy
[03:17] <Assid> mrksbrd:  the loader that shows kubuntu and progress bar
[03:17] <intelikey> usplash = eyecandy for the boot loader
[03:17] <mrksbrd> oh yes works fine
[03:18] <Assid> stupid thing dont work for me
[03:18] <Assid> tried to reinstall it .. still nothing
[03:18] <Assid> and i know it downloaded from online and not the CD version.. so it used some update
[03:18] <Ange|us> Assid: i can't find a solution neither
[03:18] <leileilol> i wonder if it's possible to get my old Interact Hammerhead FX gamepad to work in linux
[03:18] <intelikey> !usplash | Assid have you tried redoing it ?
[03:18] <ubotu> Assid have you tried redoing it ?: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:18] <mrksbrd> did u use live cd or alt?
[03:18] <leileilol> it doesn't work in win2000/xp
[03:18] <leileilol> at all
[03:18] <leileilol> works in 9x
[03:18] <RipRapRob> nosrednaekim: Yes
[03:18] <lee986321> question does this mean enable the driver or....?sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager-kde
[03:19] <Assid> mrksbrd: live
[03:19] <lee986321> cancel that
[03:19] <Ange|us> i tried both alt and live , both don't work, the monitor turns off till the kde login comes then it turns back on
[03:19] <shadowhywind> ok so that command finally finished
[03:19] <lee986321> System > Administration > Software Sources. Check "Proprietary Drivers for Devices (Restricted)" box. does this mean enable the driver?
[03:20] <lee986321> or is ir something different?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> AHHH! stupid XGL and shift bkspace!
[03:20] <mrksbrd> I always use Alt cd whenever possible, some puters don't like live cd for some reason
[03:20] <draik> Where can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/"
[03:20] <intelikey> Ange|us that's a fbcon issue.
[03:20] <intelikey> Ange|us notebook ?
[03:20] <Assid> okay ran it.. hopefully shood work
[03:21] <Assid> Ange|us: yeah same here
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> RipRapRob: sorry, did you answer?
[03:21] <intelikey> fbcon -- kernel frame buffering support for the console
[03:21] <Assid> run "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" and reboot
[03:21] <Assid> see if it works
[03:21] <Assid> if i reboot it will take me forever to log back in
[03:21] <Assid> hehe
[03:21] <Ange|us> Assid: ok i will give it a try and tell you if it works :)
[03:21] <RipRapRob> nosrednaekim: Yes. And the answer is yes, I did :)
[03:22] <intelikey> Assid i don't really know any other way to test usplash tho
[03:22] <Assid> intelikey: dont think there is another way
[03:22] <mrksbrd>  I noticed when running sudo apt update, said it was release candidate from 10/09.......any ideas???????
[03:22] <Assid> man people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way
[03:23] <Ange|us> Assid: that command gave me a getopt error
[03:23] <Assid> getopt?
[03:23] <Ange|us> pidgin is ugly :p
[03:23] <Ange|us> this /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 13: getopt: not found
[03:23] <intelikey> Assid been to #perl lately ?
[03:24] <Assid> okay that just isnt good
[03:24] <mrksbrd> did they post wrong release ??????????
[03:24] <zolar1> good night all
[03:24] <Assid> intelikey: nah
[03:24] <Assid> something there i should know abt
[03:24] <Assid> open amsn.. and i get an error "the requested file has not been translated in the language yet"
[03:24] <Assid> or something like that
[03:24] <Ahmuck> are people able to play cbs's intertube videos ?
 man people in pidgin are kinda arrogant in a way <<< thus follows >>> <intelikey> Assid been to #perl lately ?
[03:25] <Assid> wtf? its not translated into english/
[03:25] <Assid> hehe
[03:25] <Assid> yeah ive seen then be arrogant too
[03:25] <intelikey> :)
[03:25] <Assid> eeks im getting a super bad display for amsn
[03:25] <coreymon> hey guys
[03:25] <Ange|us> i get that error too in amsn Assid but it doesn;t give problems so dw
[03:26] <coreymon> my upgrade messed up so now i am forced to fresh install since my system will be unusable next time i restart
[03:26] <Assid> dw?
[03:26] <Assid> Ange|us: the fonts are horrible
[03:26] <mcrandello> gah now getting inode inconsistency errors? #(*$ it reinstall time
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: go gutsy!
[03:26] <coreymon> so, what i want to do is split my home directory off into a seperate partition so that i dont have to delete in on fresh install
[03:26] <coreymon> how do i go about doing that
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: probably best done from a liveCD
[03:27] <coreymon> should i come back when im running from a gutsy live?
[03:27] <mcrandello> coreymon remember to back up everything first
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> delete unneccesary files, boot into livecd, shrink partition, create new partition
[03:27] <intelikey> coreymon make a place for it, then copy the contents over and go.
[03:27] <mcrandello> can't be said enough
[03:27] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41258/ what did i do wrong?
[03:27] <Ange|us> lol Assid , mine are fine
[03:27] <coreymon> mcrandello: back everything up? my system is corrupted, if i back things up it will just back up corrupted stuff
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> coreymon: he means your data
[03:27] <coreymon> mcrandello: all i want is my home dir
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> use an alternate cd, and upgrade
[03:28] <mcrandello> coreymon well anything off of /home/coreymon that you want to keep ;^)
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> +1 sub[t]rnl
[03:28] <Assid> Ange|us: absolutely horrible
[03:28] <intelikey> coreymon i think he means  make backups of all important data.
[03:28] <Assid> what did you do to make it look good
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bye all! have a nice day/night
[03:28] <sub[t]rnl> take care nosrednaekim
[03:28] <intelikey> nosrednaekim you too.
[03:28] <secleinteer> hi, can someone tell me how to get the kmenu in kde 4 beta 3 on gutsy?
[03:28] <mcrandello> I always go into HDD operations with the assumption that I'm going to pooch it up and lose everything, and I'm rarely dissapointed.
[03:29] <coreymon> i would like to backup my entire system, but wouldnt that just backup the corrupt parts too?
[03:29] <leileilol> so no way of getting the interact hammerhead fx gamepad to work?
[03:29] <Ange|us> nothing Assid
[03:29] <Ange|us> lol
[03:29] <draik> Where can I find information on the meaning to the various folders under "/" ?
[03:29] <leileilol> it connects to the midi port of the sound card, btw
[03:29] <mcrandello> coreymon, likely
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> secleinteer: right click on desktop, run command "kickoff"
[03:29] <intelikey> coreymon yes.  at this point it probably would.
[03:29] <coreymon> so, how do i know what i can safely backup?
[03:29] <lumpycow> Does anyone know if wireless works in Kubuntu 7.10??
[03:29] <Ange|us> where you able to do that command you gave me for the usplash Assid? it gave me a getopt error
[03:30] <seraph_> can anyone tell me where to get 7.10 alternate powerpc - iso
[03:30] <draik> lumpycow: I would assume it should
[03:30] <AmyRose> draik: There is a guide I wrote myself on it, but it's slightly outdated
[03:30] <Assid> Ange|us:  yes.. it ran here fine
[03:30] <secleinteer> nosrednaekim: it gives me the kmenu in a separate box - how can i get it on the panel?
[03:30] <draik> AmyRose: Online?
[03:30] <AmyRose> draik: Yeah... I'll PM you the link
[03:30] <draik> AmyRose: Thank you
[03:30] <coreymon> intelikey:  so, how do i know what i can safely backup?
[03:30] <eric__> so i think i need some help, after upgrade to gutsy, flgrx is not working at all
[03:30] <Assid> whats that site to upload images and stuff?
[03:30] <intelikey> draik i saw a good writeup on that the other day.   something about "linux file system higherarchical structure"   probably not spelled like that.
[03:30] <Assid> like imageshack?
[03:31] <draik> intelikey: Got a link?
[03:31] <intelikey> draik let me check.
[03:31] <Assid> like a pastebin for images?
[03:31] <draik> Thank you intelikey
[03:31] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[03:31] <eric__> does flgrx driver upgrade when going to Gutsy?
[03:31] <corinth> Can't mount my external hard drive, outputs this message : hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[03:31] <coreymon> Jucato: you have any idea what i can do?
[03:31] <draik> Jucato: .... Why am I not surprised. How are you old friend?
[03:31] <Jucato> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[03:32] <eric__> and is there anyway i can fall back to the fiesty one that i was using...
[03:32] <Jucato> (more technical)
[03:32] <Jucato> draik: trying to recover, but doing well nonetheless
[03:32] <BluesKaj> no joy with google earth...wonder if it will even run on gutsy
[03:32] <intelikey> draik doesn't look like the history goes back that far.  i'll google for it.   "you can too"
[03:32] <Jucato> coreymon: sorry I didn't catch, what's the problem?
[03:32] <seraph_> hi guys.. im looking for gutsy alternate iso for powerpc.... i can't seem to find it on the download page..
[03:33] <Jucato> !ppc
[03:33] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[03:33] <Assid> Ange|us: http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1tg6.png
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: I wasn't too sure about what to google. " 'slash' folder meaning " " root folder contents" "/ definition " and a few other variations didn't help me much
[03:33] <Jucato> seraph_: PPC is no longer officially supported.
[03:33] <Assid> it has amsn and the output of that command
[03:33] <Jucato> draik:  try linux filesystem heirarchy
[03:33] <Assid> amsn looks horrible to me
[03:33] <seraph_> ohh noooo
[03:33] <draik> Jucato: Thank you much
[03:34] <Jucato> seraph_: there's still a community project for that though
[03:34] <Jucato> I don't know the channel for it
[03:34] <Assid> anyone know whats needed to make amsn look "NORMAL"?
[03:34] <intelikey> draik http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html <<< not the one i was thinking of.  but looks ok for a simple what's what
[03:34] <Jucato> oh yeah better than the ubuntu one
[03:35] <seraph_> thank you ubotu and Jucato
[03:35] <intelikey> i really liked the one i saw the "other day"  been about 6 weeks i guess now.
[03:35] <Assid> intelikey: you happen to use amsn by any chance?
[03:35] <Jucato> !thanks | seraph_
[03:35] <ubotu> seraph_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:35] <rabindra> can someone help me with my screen refresh rate; it's just 60 Hz, I get no other option
[03:35] <intelikey> Assid no.
[03:36] <Assid> rabindra: TFT/LCD?
[03:36] <rabindra> Assid:CRT
[03:36] <intelikey> reconfigure xorg
[03:36] <Ange|us> Assid: ok i made the command, now im gonna reboot to test.
[03:36] <Assid> rabindra: increase your horizontal and vertical sync ranges
[03:36] <rabindra> Assid: In Ms Windows it's 85 Hz
[03:36] <Assid> Ange|us:  k
[03:37] <rabindra> Assid:from where?
[03:37] <Assid> rabindra: /etc/X11/xorg.conf pastebin that
[03:37] <Assid> rabindra: me from where? the syncs?
[03:37] <corinth> I really like kubuntu, but I'm going to switch back to Ubuntu if I can't figure out how to mount my external hard drive!
[03:37] <xevious> rabindra: is your monitor listed in the Monitor & Display applet in System Settings?
[03:39] <Assid> 4296 frames in 5.0 seconds = 859.163 FPS
[03:39] <mike-kubuntu> ok, i cant take this any more, ever since the upgrade to gutsy andy flash or java on a webpage freezes firefox, anyone know what could be going on? I'm on amd64 and i think i used the 32 bit wrapper program to get flash 9 working
[03:39] <Assid> is that decent while running compiz?
[03:40] <chill> hiya
[03:40] <mike-kubuntu> 33456 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6691.180 FPS
[03:40] <mrksbrd> corinth, u using 7.04 or 7.10?
[03:40] <Assid> mike-kubuntu: nice.. which card?
[03:40] <coreymon> Jucato: someting wierd happened with my upgrade, causing it to terminate in the middle
[03:40] <coreymon> Jucato: the result of which being that my system is probably corrupted, forcing me to have to do a fresh install
[03:41] <intelikey> i get one frame each time i refresh it.
[03:41] <Jucato> coreymon: try continuing using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"?
[03:41] <coreymon> Jucato: you mean i dont have to do fresh
[03:41] <xevious> rabindra: you there?
[03:41] <Jucato> coreymon: probably not if it can still be saved
[03:41] <rabindra> xevious: i think it is listed but my model is not listed in Manufacturer's list
[03:42] <rabindra> Assid: ya the syncs
[03:42] <noam_> do version numbers actually mean anything? why .04 and .10?
[03:42] <xevious> rabindra: what brand/model?
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> noam_- Year.Month
[03:42] <noam_> are there .05 and .57 somewhere along th way?
[03:42] <noam_> ah
[03:43] <Jucato> 7.10 = 2007-10 = released October 2007
[03:43] <noam_> makes sense
[03:43] <coreymon> Jucato: this looks bad
[03:43] <coreymon> http://pastebin.ca/743098
[03:43] <Jucato> coreymon: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:44] <intelikey> noam_ if they released more than one per month it would look something like   7.10.3   7.10.24  7.11.6   ......
[03:44] <Angelus> Assid: no luck
[03:44] <Angelus> Assid: i bet the usplash is somekind bugged or something
[03:44] <coreymon> Jucato: again, this looks bad
[03:44] <coreymon> Jucato: http://pastebin.ca/743099
[03:44] <lee986321> sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper \debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic how is this line  writen ?
[03:45] <intelikey> Angelus try adding  vga=791  to the kernel line
[03:45] <Jucato> coreymon: last try: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade --install-recommends
[03:45] <xevious> rabindra: which brand and model monitor?
[03:45] <Angelus> already done it intelikey
[03:45] <Jucato> coreymon: if that doesn't work, I think theere's a command to force dpkg to install sfs-server
[03:46] <lee986321> 1pastebin
[03:46] <lee986321> !pastebin
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[03:46] <intelikey> Angelus if you upgraded you could just use the older kernel for a few days until someone patches the fbcon module or the mkinitramfs  which ever is hosing things.
[03:46] <coreymon> Jucato: nope
[03:46] <Assid> Angelus:  :(
[03:47] <Jucato> coreymon: :(
[03:47] <Angelus> :(
[03:47] <intelikey> Assid           ^  too
[03:47] <coreymon> Jucato: whats the force command'
[03:47] <coreymon> Jucato: cant i just get rid of sfs
[03:47] <leileilol> oh jeez i can't upgrade to 7.10
[03:47] <Angelus> intelikey: i didn't upgrade
[03:47] <leileilol> or install 7.10
[03:47] <leileilol> i'm quite in a pickle
[03:47] <Jucato> coreymon: maybe. not really sure what it is though
[03:47] <coreymon> shouldnt getting rid of sfs fic it?
[03:47] <Angelus> intelikey:  infact i couldn't even install kubuntu, i had to install a command-line system first, you too Assid ?
[03:47] <leileilol> my dvd burner has broken cd laser for cd media so i can't read any or burn any cd
[03:47] <donsdw> rickey: if you are still here, did you solve your problem
[03:47] <leileilol> unetbooter doesn't have a final 7.10 installer
[03:48] <leileilol> there are no 7.10 dvds :(
[03:48] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41260/ sos
[03:48] <coreymon> Jucato: im removing sfs
[03:48] <Jucato> coreymon: good luck
[03:49] <intelikey> Angelus look on the bright side.  if you didn't know that usplash worked for someone else then you would never miss it.      "how often do you normally boot that thing anyway?"  :)
[03:49] <xevious> lee986321: what are you trying to do that you need to install that stuff?
[03:49] <Angelus> intelikey: many times a day, since i use windows to play games :p
[03:49] <lee986321> yes
[03:49] <coreymon> Jucato: oh s**t, this reaaaallly doesnt look good
[03:49] <coreymon> Jucato: http://pastebin.ca/743102
[03:49] <lee986321> Angelus yes
[03:49] <Angelus> intelikey:  and im the c00l kind of guy who  wants his computer to look cool :p
[03:49] <rabindra> xevious: Samsung SyncMaster 794MG; it detects my monitor as PlugnPlay
[03:50] <lee986321> xevious i saved the doc but its pretty chewed up
[03:50] <coreymon> Jucato: bad?
[03:50] <Jucato> coreymon: I don' t know what sfs-server is... so can't really say how to solve that... perhaps it's a service in /etc/init.d/ ?
[03:50] <intelikey> Angelus it sounds to me like you installed linux in the wrong box.
[03:50] <lee986321> Angelus ill paste the entire doc
[03:51] <jmichaelx> is there a repo available to install realplayer from, or are people generally just installing the package downloaded from real.com?
[03:51] <rickey> yes donsdw i did thanks
[03:51] <noam_> jmichaelx, i think medibuntu has it
[03:51] <coreymon> Jucato: lets find out
[03:51] <Angelus> what doc lee986321?
[03:51] <noam_> jmichaelx, but why do you need real player for?...
[03:51] <Assid> haha
[03:51] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/
[03:52] <Assid> aaargh.. i want amsn to look decent
[03:52] <xevious> rabindra: i would check the specs (horizontal and vertical refresh) of the other 794 series monitors on samsung.com and see if they match your monitor. then you can just use the 794 line under manufacturers->samsung
[03:52] <jmichaelx> noam_: i don't think they do, i have the medibuntu repo enabled, and no real player there
[03:52] <lee986321> Angelus the one i just pasted its for the ati drivers
[03:52] <Assid> hrmm
[03:52] <Angelus> i have geforce lee986321
[03:52] <Angelus> seires 8
[03:52] <Angelus> :p
[03:52] <mike-kubunt1> sorry, i got kicked off
[03:52] <coreymon> Jucato: my guess is that it means shared file system
[03:52] <Jucato> oh
[03:52] <Assid> oh
[03:52] <jmichaelx> noam_: i use it for some things.... .rm streams if i want to watch them in a stand alone player. not all that much, but i do use it some
[03:53] <Assid> i just had a theory
[03:53] <coreymon> Jucato: that seems to be the one that makes the most sense in the list
[03:53] <rickey> what do you need realplayer for wen kubuntu has so many good players
[03:53] <Assid> if you also were on an ati
[03:53] <Jucato> coreymon: you can always apt-cache show sfs-server
[03:53] <VousDeux> I'm running VMware WS on desktop 2. When I go fullscreen, is there some way I can switch to desktop 1 without leaving fullscreen?
[03:53] <lee986321> can some one help with the html version of this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41261/
[03:53] <Assid> Angelus: wanna know something funny?
[03:53] <Assid> it worked during the beta and daily builds and even alpha releases
[03:53] <coreymon> Jucato: sfs-server - Self-Certifying File System server
[03:54] <coreymon> Jucato: so, what is it?
[03:54] <Angelus> the only versions i tried assid where the RC and final lol
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> VousDeux: via the desktop pager applet in kicker
[03:54] <Jucato> coreymon: no idea. first tie I saw it
[03:54] <rabindra> xevious: thanks for the efforts you will make; the 794 model is not listed in the manufacturer's list
[03:54] <Assid> Angelus: bet you it worked in the RC
[03:54] <xevious> rabindra: i just saw the 794MB in there
[03:54] <Angelus> it didnt Assid
[03:55] <Assid> hrmm
[03:55] <Assid> werd
[03:55] <ubuntu__> I need some help with VMWare...
[03:55] <coreymon> Jucato: let me guess, i have to fresh dont i?
[03:55] <VousDeux> sub[t]rnl: I can't see the kicker of the host os when I have the guest on full screen.
[03:55] <mcrandello> wierd I reinstalled and now I can get into X.
[03:55] <ubuntu__> I can't get it to stop logging in as ubuntu...
[03:55] <mike-kubunt1> how would you suggets i find out whats making my firefox crash
[03:55] <Jucato> coreymon: unless you can find the dpkg option to force overwrite... which isn't really good though... but at this point... I don't know anymore..
[03:56] <Assid> mike-kubunt1: you still facing gmail issue?
[03:56] <Kanuha> having problems getting my wireless working. I have a linksys wmp11 pci card, I enabled the restricted drivers
[03:56] <ubuntu__> How do i get it to stop logging into the default account?
[03:56] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, mv your .firefox or .mozilla dir to .firefox-backup, and try restarting it
[03:56] <rabindra> xevious: it's not there in mine
[03:56] <Angelus> Assid: i found someone who made it work, i'll tell you how as soon as i get it working :)
[03:56] <mrksbrd> when attempting to d/l new wallpapers from "configure desktp" I get the following error(s)............"could not connect to host...http://download.kde.org/khotnewstuff/wallpaper-providers.xml"......then second error sts "error parsing providers list"
[03:56] <lee986321> LiAmO are you n line?
[03:56] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, then reinstall extensions 1 at a time, finally copying your bookmarks back over from the backup dir
[03:56] <mike-kubunt1> Assid: yeah, but its gmail and pretty much any site with java or flash
[03:57] <Assid> mike-kubunt1: just logged into my gmail.... worked fine
[03:57] <xevious> rabindra: Samsung -> Samsung Syncmaster 794MB/794MBplus/798MB
[03:57] <xevious> rabindra: are you using feisty or gutsy?
[03:57] <Assid> althought my fontws could look a bit better
[03:57] <mike-kubunt1> Assid: i think its because i used that 32 bit plugin wrapper and its still for feisty
[03:57] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: look into ndiswrapper
[03:57] <Assid> hrmm k
[03:57] <mike-kubunt1> but i don't remember what the package was called
[03:57] <Assid> err.. anyone know wht can i do to make the fonts better?
[03:57] <Angelus> Assid: ok ,  apt-get install startupmanager , and play with the settings, shout get it to work :D
[03:57] <Kanuha> sub[t]rnl, I installed that already
[03:58] <Assid> im on a laptop w/ lcd..
[03:58] <trevor_> Can I get help with user accounts?
[03:58] <Assid> also enabled subpixel hinting
[03:58] <rabindra> xevious: feisty
[03:58] <xevious> rabindra: ah. i'm in gutsy
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: is it having trouble seeing the wireless routers, or just with the WEP key
[03:59] <Kanuha> sub[t]rnl, I tried entering the asci phrase and the hex, but I cannot see my wireless network.
[04:00] <rabindra> xevious: but list should not matter much. I know with some change in xconf file may be i will be able to do but last time i did it and i had to reinstall my kubuntu
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> Kanuha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7319 see if anything here can get you moving
[04:00] <trevor_> !users
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[04:00] <Assid> should i exclude the range from 8-15 ?
[04:00] <Angelus> Assid:  did you install it ?
[04:00] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41262/ eh having issues waht am I doing wrong?
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: nah.. other stuff being installed
[04:01] <Angelus> ok
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: my 2mbit gets over in like 1/2 hr.. wanna download as much as i can
[04:01] <Angelus> when you're ready install startupmanager Assid it will fix it :p
[04:01] <Assid> Angelus: after tht im down to 128kbit
[04:01] <VousDeux> nevermind, I just had to assign a shortcut sequence.
[04:02] <ekrengel> does anyone know how to fall back to fiesty's flgrx driver after upgrading to gutsy?
[04:02] <ekrengel> gutsy's driver is def not workin with my card
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> lee986321: try apt-get update
[04:02] <wilson> you cant ekrengel it's tied to the kernel
[04:02] <ekrengel> gaaaaaaah
[04:02] <ekrengel> its killin me
[04:03] <lee986321> sub[t]rnl ok
[04:03] <ekrengel> would i have to do anything after the upgrade for dependencies?
[04:03] <ekrengel> something that i might have missed
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> ekrengel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the flgrx driver
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> also, look into aticonfig
[04:04] <ekrengel> yeah i had a custom xorg.conf file in fiesty
[04:04] <mcrandello> ekrengel, you could always use the ati installer, but you'd have to comment out everything in /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and then manually search and destroy ubuntu's fglrx modules for it to work
[04:04] <ekrengel> that was working great
[04:04] <Assid> err should i exclude the range for anti aliasing?
[04:05] <lee986321> sub[t]rnl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41263/
[04:05] <mcrandello> ekrengel, that's a last resort sort of thing though
[04:05] <ekrengel> well i'll try the reconfigure and see if i can get it somewhat working
[04:06] <wilson> lee986321: you got some other package manager program open ? like adept
[04:07] <mike-kubunt1> wow, it must be a plugin
[04:07] <mike-kubunt1> i wonder what one
[04:07] <mcrandello> add them back in 1 at a time, restart and test until you got the culprit
[04:07] <mcrandello> badaboom badabing
[04:08] <mike-kubunt1> i bet its flash though
[04:08] <wilson> lee986321: forget what i said
[04:08] <jmichaelx> will there be a gutsy-commercial repository, or has that been replaced by the partners repo?
[04:09] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, what are we up to flash 10 now? maybe 9 or 8 would work better if that's the party crasher
[04:09] <lee986321> ok
[04:09] <Assid> err
[04:09] <Assid> Angelus: i found out about the amsn issue
[04:09] <wilson> module-assistant hmm
[04:09] <lee986321> yeah I need to translate all this into kubuntu and  change fiesty to gutsy
[04:09] <Assid> you need to recompile tcl/tk AND amsn
[04:10] <Angelus> lol Assid nice fix
[04:10] <Angelus> Assid: im playing with the startupmanager to fix the bootup splash
[04:10] <Angelus> somebody knows what size is kubuntu bootup splash?
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> mcrandello: do they have a 64bit flash out yet?
[04:11] <Angelus> no mike-kubunt1
[04:11] <Angelus> mike-kubunt1: but you can use nspluginwrapper
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> yeah, thats what i'm doing so far
[04:11] <mike-kubunt1> i think i'm still on flash 9 though
[04:11] <mcrandello> mike-kubunt1, that one I have no idea on
[04:11] <wilson> i dunno lee986321 there's a module-assistant for me
[04:12] <ekrengel> hmm
[04:12] <wilson> maybe there's a problem with the repository you're using
[04:12] <ekrengel> that didn't work
[04:12] <mcrandello> okay. I just put gutsy on here and adept says there's a new distribution available, I think I'm doing this wrong
[04:12] <ekrengel> ah i never should have upgraded
[04:14] <wilson> my rep has it lee986321
[04:14] <wilson> http://ftp.netspace.net.au/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/module-assistant/
[04:15] <wilson> well, its not my rep, its the rep i use
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> wow
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> i'm not sure what messed it up, but it was seriously messed up
[04:17] <mike-kubunt1> i desabled all the plugins and it still didn't fix it
[04:18] <lee986321> is the last line being written coretly?
[04:18] <ekrengel> ok looks pretty much the same as before after the second go-around with the reconfigure
[04:18] <ekrengel> at the top toolbar with all my icons, everything is blurred out
[04:19] <lee986321> wilson that  is ok I jsut need to know i the last line is writen corectly
[04:19] <ekrengel> i dont know what else to do...
[04:19] <ekrengel> i might just backup my stuff and do a fresh install of fiesty
[04:20] <wilson> er, on the last run, you didn't use sudo
[04:20] <lee986321> Nver mind Problem solved
[04:21] <mike> Konqueror keeps crashing?
[04:21] <mike-kubunt1> how do i transfer my bookmarks over?
[04:21] <mike> Icannot d/load gkrellm with add/remove,,had to use apt-get ,,like debian :)
[04:21] <mike-kubunt1> i mooved bookmarks.html but it didnt seem to do much
[04:21] <mcrandello> seriously though what happens if I click in adept to upgrade to the new distribution. I'm already on Gutsy...
[04:22]  * mcrandello doesn't want to open a portal to the future
[04:23] <fausticon> greeetings. eh... i seem to be having some problems running the 7.10 live cd.
[04:23] <mike> tell all
[04:23] <doneill> I had an interesting glitch in the RC for Gutsy where entries in the K-Menu were labelled "K-menu_entries--Control Centre" and such, has anybody run into this and/or know if it was fixed in the release?  (AMD64/OEM Install)
[04:24] <mike> kcontrol crashes,,I know that
[04:24] <fausticon> It boots normally for a bit and then dumps me back to the cli with "udev_event[2230]: run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit".
[04:25] <fausticon> It returns the same trying in safe mode and with regular Ubuntu, so I'm assuming my machine is being screwy again.
[04:25] <mike> fausticon, This will fix it   http://sidux.com/
[04:26] <mike> Fixed mine :)
[04:27] <fausticon> heh
[04:27] <VousDeux> hmmm...I've been using Gutsy since August. I've kept up with the updates on a daily basis, why is the Adept Updater sayinig I need to do a version upgrade now?
[04:27] <mike> There is no real "safe mode" :)
[04:27] <mike> voidmage, I get the same on boot
[04:28] <mike> Maybe its not really finished !
[04:28] <craigevil> Host/Kernel/OS  "craigevil" running Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-slh-smp-3 i686 [ sidux 2007-03.1 - Γαια - kde-full -<PHONE_NUMBER>44) ]
[04:28] <craigevil> CPU Info        AMD Duron 64 KB cache flags( sse ) clocked at [ 1800.144 MHz ]
[04:28] <craigevil> Videocard       nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  X.Org 1.4.0  [ 1280x1024 @50hz ]
[04:28] <craigevil> Network cards   Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet, at port: e400
[04:28] <craigevil> Processes 84 | Uptime 1day | Memory 395.0/2027.3MB | HDD ATA WDC WD800JB-00JJ Size 80GB (45%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE/3DNOW! | GLX Version 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 | Client Konversation 1.0.1 | Infobash v2.67
[04:28] <craigevil> crap sorry wrong channel
[04:29] <mike> craigevil, looks nice
[04:29] <VousDeux> Why do I get a bad feeling that this version upgrade is going to break everything.
[04:29] <wilson> Sysinfo for 'Athas': Linux <IP_ADDRESS> running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 3240 MHz (6958 bogomips), HD: 66/854GB, RAM: 753/2026MB, 192 proc's, 6.45min up
[04:29] <Lynoure> VousDeux: then backup first. :)
[04:29] <lee986321> !pastebin
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[04:30] <ekrengel> VousDeux: maybe just your video drivers
[04:30] <ekrengel> if you have ati
[04:30] <doneill> !launchpad
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[04:30] <doneill> pfft, i want to see the kde part :p
[04:30] <ekrengel> im gonna reinstall and put fiesty back on...
[04:30] <doneill> ekrengel: whats up with gutsy?
[04:30] <mike> ekrengel,  try sidux
[04:30] <Assid> doneill: too many issues?
[04:30] <lee986321> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41267/ does any one understand waht it is that I ma trying to do , I need a check to see if this is right so far
[04:31] <ekrengel> flgrx wasn't working at all with my video card
[04:31] <VousDeux> oh, haha...it's only doing 5 packages
[04:31] <Assid> err.. that usplash didnt fix itself
[04:31] <Assid> also.. compiz dies every alternate boot
[04:31] <doneill> i can't remember ever using the fglrx packages from the repository
[04:31] <Assid> and i cant access terminal
[04:31] <doneill> but if it works on feisty, you might as well
[04:31] <ekrengel> it was working perfectly in fiesty, so im just gonna put it back to how it was
[04:31] <ekrengel> yeah
[04:31] <doneill> although it would be much appreciated if you reported the bug on launchpad
[04:31] <ekrengel> i have my xorg backed up
[04:31] <doneill> just so they get around to fixing it
[04:32] <ekrengel> i would...but i cant even get flgrx outputs
[04:32] <ekrengel> i guess i could get the xorg log
[04:32] <ekrengel> i dont know how much good that will do though
[04:33] <ekrengel> i've got an X700 Pro
[04:33] <mike> run "smxi" in Sidux :)
[04:33] <ekrengel> i was using merged FB
[04:33] <ekrengel> oh yeah?
[04:33] <ekrengel> you like sidux?
[04:34] <arash> So people :), I want to upgrade to the latest 7.10, I want to make a back up of the system before doing so, what can you recommend?
[04:34] <mrksbrd> what does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD
[04:34] <ekrengel> mike: what do you like about it?
[04:34] <BigDaddy> hey guys, I can't remember. During installation, does Kubuntu as where the /home directory is? Or do I have to manuall set that after the installation?
[04:35] <mike> ekrengel, Sidux with smxi is so damn fast and easy
[04:35] <ekrengel> do you have an ati card?
[04:35] <mike> Too many errors in 7.10
[04:35] <doneill> ekrengel: every little bit helps
[04:35] <mike> ekrengel, Nvidia on this one
[04:36] <mike> ati 200 xpress on the laptop
[04:37]  * mrksbrd wants to know what does this mean...............Hal-Storage-Removable-Mount-All-Options-Refused UID 1000........rec'd this when plugging in my USB External HDD
[04:37] <ImpaledOnRebar> How to serve up strigi to users on intranet?
[04:37] <Assid> hrmm reporting a whole lot of bugs
[04:38] <flaccid> mrksbrd, search launchpad bugs and check fstab for nouser or user option
[04:38] <flaccid> lol ubuntu is a bug
[04:38] <mrksbrd> k
[04:39] <mike> ubuntu is better sorted with compiz-fusion
[04:39] <Assid> sorted?
[04:40] <Assid> reporting to ubuntu is the same as reporting to kubuntu in launchpad right
[04:40] <mike> Well it worked ,,,,I hope it still does\
[04:40] <flaccid> yeah
[04:40] <Assid> k
[04:40] <Assid> 3rd bug filed
[04:40] <BigDaddy> Anyone know about the /home mountin gduring install?
[04:40] <ekrengel> mike: what does sidux use? kde? xfce?
[04:40] <Assid> few more to go
[04:40] <flaccid> lol
[04:40] <mike> ekrengel, kde
[04:40] <mike> full and fast
[04:40] <arash> Can I put whole my Kubuntu system and all in it to a external hard drive and later recover if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?
[04:41] <BigPick> Eh... I have never had good experiences with external harddrives.
[04:41] <flaccid> you can't recover an upgrade, but you can try to repair by downgrading etc.
[04:41] <mrksbrd> flaccid, i get this error in terminal....Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-<user>" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[04:41] <mike> Downgrading hell!
[04:41] <flaccid> mrksbrd, people have reported that a lot
[04:41] <BigPick> Downgrading == the Devil's tool.
[04:42] <mrksbrd> lol, what does it mean??/
[04:42] <flaccid> it means it wants that file to be owned by root and not the user
[04:42] <mike> The 7.10 release is not sorted :(
[04:42] <flaccid> report it on launchpad
[04:42] <flaccid> !bugs
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[04:42] <mrksbrd> i should just go back to 7.04
[04:43] <arash> flaccid , I was thinking of do some sort of back up of everything, and just rawly rewrite the whole partition if upgrade to 7.10 goes wrong?
[04:43] <mike> ubuntu gui works a little better but I am not a Gnome fan
[04:43] <flaccid> i think we have to get used to premature releases
[04:43] <[Relic]> any ideas on why I have no applications list on the bar?
[04:43] <BigPick> 7.10 not sorted...? Lemme know know 'cause I'm downloading it as we speak.
[04:43] <BigDaddy> mike: what does that mean? Not sorted?
[04:43] <flaccid> arash, i would install with a separate /home partition which is not default so that you do'nt have to worry
[04:43] <mike> many probs
[04:44] <mike> compiz-fusion not installed
[04:44] <flaccid> its pretty normal for ubuntu to release a buggy prod release
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[04:44] <flaccid> compiz-fusion is not with kubuntu, but unubntu
[04:44] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> mike, this is all a known fact
[04:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[04:44] <flaccid> it can be i nstalled
[04:44] <BigPick> There are always problems. Its just whether or not I can get to sleep tonight.
[04:44] <mike> Its included in Ubuntu?
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:44] <sub[t]rnl> boom, kde compiz
[04:44] <flaccid> there should only be a few, minor problems with prod releases. they should be tested throughouly first
[04:44] <ekrengel> im not going back to sleep untill i get it back to the way it was
[04:44] <ekrengel> lol
[04:45] <mike> rc 16 :(
[04:45] <BigDaddy> mike: do you think 7.10 is not worthy of desktop use yet?
[04:45]  * arash waits a month with upgrade :p
[04:45] <Assid> more bugs.. more bugs....
[04:45] <flaccid> lol
[04:45] <mike> not for a noob too many fixes needed
[04:45]  * Assid does more bug reporting
[04:45] <arash> but it seems to have so many new good features :(
[04:45] <flaccid> like?
[04:46] <Assid> i am doing more bug reporting in 1 day then i did in 1 week
[04:46] <BigDaddy> crap, I just spent all damn day dowloading the DVD hoping it would be more stable than my 7.04
[04:46] <arash> Dolphin, OO 2.3
[04:46] <mike> http://sidux.com/   =stable
[04:46] <flaccid> it might be stable for some users. everyone's variables are different
[04:46] <mike> Gaia
[04:46] <BigPick> KDE 4 Beta! <3
[04:47] <ekrengel> mike: i'll give sidux a try
[04:47] <arash> KDE 4 looks ugly imo
[04:47] <mike> I want linux to work for me not the converse :)
[04:47] <flaccid> it you want a working unix desktop, something bsd is going to be more stable than linux
[04:47] <arash> mike, good one ;)
[04:47] <BigPick> Give KDE 4 some time. And yes it does look like it got hit by a bus.
[04:47] <ekrengel> but im seeing on the front page that ati driver is still broken in xorg 7.3
[04:48] <ekrengel> so i dunno if it will make a difference, what is guty's xorg version?
[04:48] <BigPick> Flaccid, why would you ever wish BSD on someone... ever...
[04:48] <wilson> kubuntu 7.10 is fine for me
[04:48] <wilson> there's a few nagging things but meh
[04:48] <flaccid> BigPick, because somebody mentioned the word stability....
[04:48] <flaccid> duh
[04:48] <mike> I am using compiz-fusion in Sidux  with much less cpu input than ubuntu?
[04:48] <wilson> ksystemlog crashes for no reason, but it looks to be a kde4 app bastardised into kubuntu
[04:49] <BigPick> Yeah, my servers were stable. So stable nothing ran. Then I switched to Debian then Ubuntu. Much happier now.
[04:49] <BigPick> Rocks are stable.
[04:49] <BigDaddy> mike: why are you in the kubuntu channel if you are not a kubuntu user?
[04:49] <Jucato> wilson: ksystemlog is a KDE 3 app
[04:49] <flaccid> BigPick, probably a user problem. what were the servers running?
[04:49] <Assid> 1 more bug reported
[04:49] <mike> BigDaddy, I have it installed on one drive ,,I am a user
[04:50] <wilson> kde-window-decoractor crashed a few times, so im using emerald, that's fine. If you right click on the titlebar and chose 'move' or any of the move options and try to use them, the thing you are moving will just disappear, it's still running, but disappeared
[04:50] <Nuked> Im running gutsy i386 using the intel i915 chipset... on my viewsonic monitor it seems to refuse displaying the image at 1440x900... how can I fix this (it worked fine under feisty)
[04:50] <arash> meh, I'll be ready to upgrade by the time CDs arrive, so I better get going (logins to shipit)
[04:50] <Nuked> BigPick: rocks are stable until someone stumbles over them
[04:51] <flaccid> some people don't know how to admin rocks, too :)
[04:51] <BigPick> flaccid, openbsd 4.2, freebsd 5.5
[04:51] <BigDaddy> mike: OK... I have seen people come into a room just to pimp their fav distro. Didn't mean to insult you, just so you know
[04:51] <BigPick> I will have you all know my admining skills onced caused a server to kill itself.
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:51] <BigPick> Hung itself by its own power chord.
[04:51] <mike> BigDaddy, Maybe several updates needed but not what I would expect for a 'final"
[04:51] <flaccid> BigPick, problem looks like it was you :)
[04:51] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: I did that... no result
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: are you using xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[04:52] <BigPick> I know!  Ubuntu isn't perfect but its getting better.
[04:52] <Nuked> I would assume so sub[t]rnl
[04:52] <flaccid> nothing is idiot proof, and nothing should be :)
[04:52] <Nuked> should I have used the i810?
[04:52] <BigDaddy> mike: do you know if there is a point in the kubuntu installation that alowes you to assign the partition the /home is on?
[04:52] <wilson> jacto: my bad, i got 3.4 mixed up with 4
[04:52] <flaccid> i think you might mean the word intuitive :)
[04:52] <Nuked> flaccid: agreed
[04:52] <mike> BigDaddy, I also like pclos and Sidux ,,both kde
[04:53] <BigDaddy> pclos?
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: well, I have used that resolution with the intel driver, and setting it within xorg.conf
[04:53] <mike-kubunt1> how do you ad an icon to a webpage
[04:53] <mike-kubunt1> like the left hand of the adress bar
[04:53] <BigPick> Intuitive... nah, sounds too much like a windows interface word.
[04:53] <wilson> Jucato: is it in the source branch of 3.5, i couldnt find it
[04:53] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: add a picture file named favicon.ico to the root directory of the website
[04:53] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl:  the screen doesnt display the image properly... there are 2 inches of black sitting to the left of my desktop
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: adjust your monitor?
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: it can be anything png, jpg or gif but just name it favicon.ico
[04:54] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: I have... still nothing
[04:54] <flaccid> BigPick, its actually UI theory :)
[04:54] <BigPick> Idiotproof may be a high goal to set but I think it is an achievable one. :)
[04:54] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: are there size limits?
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[04:54] <mike> I got the wrong screen resolution on boot?
[04:54] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: its really strange actually
[04:54] <mike> 1280x800?
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: no .. but it looks good if its square
[04:54] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: and also make it small in size so that it doesn't take much time loading :)
[04:55] <BigPick> flaccid, the day I start having to learn theory is the day I start laying hardware floors.
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: sounds like your vertical and horizontal syncs are off maybe
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: google your monitor or check the manual for the syncs, and try plugging them in
[04:55] <flaccid> BigPick, awww thats no good
[04:55] <BigPick> I know, I hate splinters.
[04:55] <flaccid> lol
[04:55] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: the syncs are probably off
[04:56]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> had that issue a time or 12
[04:56] <Jucato> wilson: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> mike: are you taling about your framebuffer?
[04:56] <mike> gui when booting
[04:56] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl:  its a pain digging that info up... it was supplied in a little handbook w/ the monitor
[04:57] <BigPick> Ack... we gotta figure out a torrent-based upgrade client.
[04:57] <mike> sub[t]rnl, when up and running resolution comes right
[04:57] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: ok, grated the files huge right now, but its not workin here: http://fuag.is-a-geek.com/favicon.ico
[04:57] <mike> 1024x768 on this monitor
[04:58] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: I can see it load on your homepage just fine
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> mike: what kind of video card?
[04:58] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: you might have to refresh/force refresh your cache? :)
[04:59] <juan> hello all!
[04:59] <rr72> i was upgrading and i got a segfault and it closed the dist upgrade window
[04:59] <mike> Nvidia Geforce
[04:59] <rr72> how do i resume the upgrade from where it left off?
[04:59]  * lee986321 is really in tears and crying atm..
[04:59] <mike-kubunt1> QwertyM: thanks, your right
[04:59] <juan> this is what i have done, i made a frenh gusty install with gnome, and then i added kubuntu-destop and kde
[05:00] <juan> and kde is working  lot better than the gnome counterpart
[05:00] <mike> juan, You find Ubuntu better sorted?
[05:00] <n8k99> rr72: sudo dpkg -configure -a
[05:00] <n8k99> in a terminal
[05:00] <juan> i'm not sure i like it really
[05:00] <posingaspopular> oh it's rr72
[05:01] <posingaspopular> dont help him! ;p
[05:01] <rr72> i smell tacos
[05:01] <Jucato> right back at yah posingaspopular :P
[05:01] <BigPick> can anyone recomend either libtorrent or libtutil for torrent client development?
[05:01] <fulat2k> hi folks, is kde4 b3 still broken in gutsy?
[05:01] <Jucato> don't help posingaspopular! he's just posing! :)
[05:01] <Jucato> fulat2k: define broken
[05:01] <posingaspopular> oh Jucato, it's much too early for you to be awake. dont be grouchy.
[05:01]  * n8k99 doesn`t help anybody but himself
[05:01] <lee986321> ok guyd I am not able nor do I have the capacity to understand at waht I need to do to get my ati working
[05:01] <verbose> i'm getting a dcopserver error after upgrade from feisty to gutsy and i can't login to kde. i can log in failsafe. i tried removing /tmp/.ICE-unix and ~/.DCOPserver_*
[05:01] <juan> mike, some things are not really working
[05:01] <QwertyM> fulat2k: yeah, can't say broken but it sure is unusable ..
[05:01] <mike> fulat2k, Not complete
[05:01] <Jucato> posingaspopular: it's noon exactly here. it's definitely not too early :)
[05:02] <mike-kubunt1> my mediawiki directory vanashed when i upgraded
[05:02] <Angelus> contrast83: no luck, couldnt get it to work
[05:02] <fulat2k> damn.
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> mike: whats your highest resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:02] <fulat2k> got sold on the screenies {G}
[05:02] <rr72> n8k99~ couldnt i just dist-upgrade?
[05:02] <mike-kubunt1> anyone know where it mighta gone?
[05:02] <lee986321> so unless, I can figure it out, iam jsut going to have to figure something else out, I am on my 20th reformatting of the hdd
[05:02] <contrast83> Angelus: Sorry, man. Not sure what else you could do. :-\
[05:02] <posingaspopular> when i talked to you yesterday around 4am, it would have been like 3pm over there... how were you just waking up?
[05:02] <Angelus> contrast83: shoot myself or the computer lol
[05:02] <verbose> mike-kubunt1: have you tried using locate?
[05:02] <BigPick> wow 20th reformatting?
[05:02] <QwertyM> mike-kubunt1: locate <name> it?
[05:02] <atlfalcons866> !jffs2
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jffs2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <lee986321> all I ask for is  some kind of help in getting the drivers up and running right..hell I'lllet you in my system if that is waht it takes
[05:02] <contrast83> Angelus: Dual-booting?
[05:03] <mike> sub[t]rnl, 1024x768 is all this lcd can take but it boots at 1280x800?
[05:03] <Angelus> yes contrast83
[05:03] <n8k99> rr72: you were in the middle of updating when it quit- thaty command will pick up where you left off
[05:03] <rr72> k ty
[05:03] <Assid> more bug reports
[05:03] <juan> has anyone installed kde 4 with gusty?
[05:03] <contrast83> Angelus: You could try just disabling USplash and having a text-only boot.
[05:03] <Assid> looks like they took some weird beta and released it
[05:03] <Assid> Angelus: didnt work for me
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> mike: whatever the highest resolution is in your xorg.conf, is what the login screen "thinks" the resolution is at, which can cause it to appear much larger than wanted
[05:04] <n8k99> !kde4
[05:04] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> mike: so kill the high end ones that you don't use
[05:04] <Angelus> Assid: neither for me
[05:04] <contrast83> juan: Yeah. Beta 3's a big step up from Beta 2, but still a ways off from being usable on an everyday basis, for me, at least.
[05:04] <rr72> adept manager still has PID locked :/ kill it?
[05:04] <ekrengel> mike: what version of kde does sidux use?
[05:04] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: still no result
[05:04] <n8k99> yes rr72
[05:04]  * lee986321 heart broken that he doesn't have the mentle abilliteis to follow complex instructions
[05:04] <mike> sub[t]rnl, ok i will have to manually edit,,this is not so noob friendly,who has been writing the reviews??
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> mike: if you want noob friendly, boot windows
[05:05] <juan> anyone know why dolphin and not stick to konqueror?
[05:05] <Nuked> sub[t]rnl: chill out
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> Nuked: ?
[05:05] <lee986321> I think.I'll just forget aobut it and go back to playing my video games
[05:05] <Angelus> Assid: worst, my amsn fonts got ugly too lol
[05:05] <Nuked> the noob friendly thing
[05:05] <shadowhywind> Hay all i just finished my upgrade to gusty, and i noticed there are 3 packages to update, so when i try to update it, it says that there is a new distribution version available, what should i do?
[05:05] <Assid> hahaha
[05:05] <n8k99> juan preparing you for kde4
[05:05] <se7en^Of^9> lee986321: my ac is not working ... :)
[05:06] <Assid> Angelus: wanna see a dumb bug?
[05:06] <contrast83> juan: Because they're GNOME-ifying KDE. For further evidence, compare System Settings (now the default) to Control Center.
[05:06] <n8k99> but you still have konqueror file manager juan
[05:06] <Jucato> !dolphin | juan
[05:06] <ubotu> juan: dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[05:06] <Angelus> Assid: the boot up splash was a pretty dumb one LoL
[05:06] <verbose> how can i completely remove kde and switch to gnome?
[05:06] <Nuked> mike: the fact of the matter is that ubuntu and every other linux distro will kick your butt every now and then
[05:06] <lee986321> a/c...I know nothing aobut that lol
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> shadowhywind: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> shadowhywind: see if that corrects it
[05:06] <Assid> Angelus: logout.. use a wrong password.. it shows wrong password, but.. it wont reset to allow you to retry
[05:06] <Nuked> mike: but stay the course... nothing will compare once you get things up and running
[05:06] <Assid> so you have to restart X
[05:06] <juan> any ideas on the benefits of dolphin?
[05:07] <n8k99> Jucato: is sooooo smart
[05:07] <Jucato> hahah
[05:07] <mike-kubunt1> how would i port the output of locate to a file?
[05:07] <juan> is it better, faster? what?
[05:07] <n8k99> juan usability
[05:07] <Nuked> juan: lighter on resources perhaps
[05:07] <mike-kubunt1> its to long for terminal output
[05:07] <Assid> Jucato:  ?
[05:07] <rr72> n8k99~ python keeps locking it
[05:07] <verbose> mike-kubunt1: locate blah > output_file
[05:07] <Jucato> juan: usability, new features, faster, lighter, cleaner code, easier to maintain
[05:07] <mike> Nuked, kcontrol crashes as well
[05:07] <lee986321> I guess , I wsn't as smart as I thuaght I was.
[05:07] <rr72> the dpkg database
[05:07] <Jucato> juan: and is actively worked on
[05:07] <mike> 7.0.4 was solid
[05:07] <Assid> c-f still crashes on me
[05:07] <lee986321> compute codes changed so much over the las 20 years lol
[05:07] <n8k99> hmmm.... interesting rr72
[05:08] <Assid> i think its some option i enabled
[05:08] <Toma-> How do I change the keyboard layout?
[05:08] <VousDeux> this distribution upgrade has been at it for a long time for just 5 packages
[05:08] <rr72> python keeps launching dist-upgrade
[05:08] <shadowhywind> the only packages that have been kepy back are compiz-core, compiz-kde, compiz-plugins
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> rr72: adept is locked?
[05:08] <contrast83> If I want a stripped down file manager for the default, I'll go to GNOME.