[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:16] <Robbotto[m]> Hi
[17:46] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Good news! plasma-distro-release-notifier was just approved for Jammy and Focal, so we can, in about a week, add it to the seeds for Studio and Kubuntu for Focal and Jammy so people can get their long-missed notifications for upgrades.
[17:54] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: thanks!
[18:57] <sgmoore[m]> https://www.scarlettgatelymoore.dev/kde-snaps-at-ubuntu-summit-2022-see-you-in-prague/
[19:23] <valorie> congratulations on both your accomplishments but on going to Prague, sgmoore[m]
[19:24] <valorie> I wanted to carve out time for Prague after we were in Brno but twas not to be
[19:24] <valorie> Prague was one of Thomas' favorite cities when he went to europe
[19:25] <valorie> Eickmeyer: awesome!
[19:26] <valorie> you worked hard on that for quite awhile
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, it's nice that we're going to finally get a notification when it's time to upgrade, and that our users are going to have that and not have to rely on the twitter feed (which is easy to miss).
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> sgmoore[m]: I'll be in prague too, as will some of the Ubuntu Studio team. I'll be giving a talk about Ubuntu Studio's past, present, and future.
[19:29] <valorie> very cool!
 One day I'll do enough to request travel for a conference again.


[00:16] <SiDi> !info libvala0 karmic
[00:17] <SiDi> !info glib-2.0
[00:17] <SiDi> !info libglib2.0-0
[00:26] <kromar> looks like divx streams dont work with opera:/
[01:34] <nicklas_> yo
[02:31] <vidd> how do i add a cd archive to /etc/apt/sources.list from the command line?
[02:32] <vidd> i only have access to command line....my gui's are hosed
[02:32] <David-A> vidd: man apt-cdrom
[02:34] <vidd> ty
[03:09] <gator123> Does anyone know if Xfce Beta 5 Is out?
[03:32] <forces> WTF!?
[03:32] <forces> beta?
[03:32] <forces> !xfce | gator123
[03:42] <gamepockets> can anyone help with formating an external hd that keeps saying an error occured during process??
[04:26] <arkham618> Hmm, haven't used IRC in ages. Anybody available to answer a question or two?
[04:29] <maduser> yeah
[04:33] <maduser> what?
[04:33] <arkham618> Cool. Thanks. I'll just launch into, then. I have Jaunty installed on a Jetbook (Intel Dual Core w/4GB RAM) and the HDD light is blinking exactly every second, even when the system is idle. It's like a clock. I can't figure out what's causing it. I've googled and found similar complaints from notebook users, but no real fixes.
[04:35] <maduser> could be a bug
[04:36] <arkham618> Any thoughts on what might cause it?
[04:36] <maduser> no
[04:37] <arkham618> Know anyone who might be able to help?
[06:30] <Syrius> http://www.alteringtime.com/features/lists/?p=newbiephrases
[08:43] <astap> Lord of the old computer atlonXP comes with Xubuntu 9.04?
[12:54] <mib486> hi guys i just installed xubuntu, it loads it and everything, it let me log-in with username and password but then it gets stuck on the desktop, only the mouse arrow, no icons dunno what to do, can someone help?
[13:00] <mib487> hi guys i just installed xubuntu, it loads it and everything, it let me log-in with username and password but then it gets stuck on the desktop, only the mouse arrow, no icons dunno what to do, can someone help?
[13:10] <mib487> hello???
[13:10] <mib487> could someone help???
[13:11] <Slonkie> !question | mib486
[13:12] <Slonkie> !question | mib487
[13:12] <mib487> hello?? ive already asked :D
[13:12] <Slonkie> Read the last sentence
[13:12] <mib487> im in tt3 trying to use aptitude but dunno how
[13:32] <teufel> hi there. please can anyone help with xterm?
[13:33] <teufel> the problem is: how can i save the configurations i've made so that when started it'd be already there?
[13:35] <SiDi> teufel: what do you mean ?
[13:36] <teufel> i made some changes: font size etc. but if i shutdown the pc, when started, i gotta meke the changes again
[13:37] <teufel> i cant save the configurations concerning xterm
[13:38]  * SiDi didn't know there was a way to configure xterm Q.Q
[13:38] <SiDi> teufel: with changes do you mean command lines ?
[13:39] <SiDi> if so, put them in .bashrc
[13:40] <teufel> no. font size, font style, background color etc
[13:41] <teufel> how do i do it? how to put them in there? i1ve already searched for it (probably not correctly) and couldnt find it
[13:42] <SiDi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124960
[13:43] <teufel> tnhaxs a lot! i'll try rightaway!
[16:26] <SilentWarrior> hey guys, i want to change my laptop (rly old) from Kubuntu (kde4) to xubuntu, so it becomes more responsive, anyone tryed this before? What did you notice in terms of performance? (its a 800mhz, 1gb, compac presario)
[16:27] <SilentWarrior> btw, can i quickly change Kubuntu into Xubuntu?
[16:27] <SilentWarrior> if so, how?
[16:27] <SilentWarrior> i have it installed already using Synaptic
[17:00] <forces> SilentWarrior, xfce is quickly than KDE4
[17:01] <forces> that's obvious
[17:04] <xylox> SilentWarrior, i went from gnome to xfce in my old P3 and the increase in speed is remarkable
[17:07] <maui> hi guys, how do i add links to the top panel, i want to add apps that are not in the list, how do i do?
[17:08] <Valsum> Hi maui. It's simple: add them as Launchers.
[17:08] <maui> sorry but its a brand new xubuntu install and im a total newbie
[17:09] <maui> really dont know how to do that
[17:10] <Valsum> after right click in the panel and 'add new element', the first option is add 'launcher'
[17:10] <maui> and then look for the .bin file
[17:10] <maui> thanks man
[17:10] <Valsum> once you click on 'add', you just select an icon, a name for the launcher, and put the application name you want
[17:10] <Valsum> aye
[17:10] <Valsum> np
[17:13] <SilentWarrior> xylox hey, i installed xubuntu, as i stated, i am trying to change from kdm to gdm, but all stuff i find says that i should pick one when a dialog pops up, but, i never get a pop up or anythin
[17:14] <SilentWarrior> how can i change from kdm to the xubuntu one (xfce), manually or something, i have xubuntu installed already on my kubuntu
[17:16] <SilentWarrior> forces, xylox
[17:18] <xylox> SilentWarrior, in synaptic choose xubuntu-desktop and install it, after that you should get the option when starts your session
[17:18] <forces> SilentWarrior, select in session the option xfce
[17:21] <nicklas_> öj
[17:21] <SilentWarrior> so, i should logout and select it?
[17:22] <maui> Valsum: the system is super slow, probably cuz its a dated laptop, but is there a way to reduce to the minimum the cpu usage? like shutting down apps and processes i dont use or i dunno?
[17:23] <xylox> SilentWarrior, yes, you'll see the option on session start
[17:23] <Valsum> maui: Yes, mine is an old laptop and I deactivated bluetooth, in system\services and in settings\sessions\autostarted apps
[17:26] <SilentWarrior> xylox, btw, how can i make "synergyc <IP_ADDRESS>" run at start (before session login, so i can input my password from the other pc)? i had it on a KDE startup folder
[17:37] <maui> how do i save all the settings and stuff of the system in order to have some kind of back up like "system restore" in windows?
[17:38] <xylox> SilentWarrior, when i need to run commands at startup i put them in /etc/init.d/rc.local, but never tried that synergy you say
[17:41] <xylox> SilentWarrior, there's also an autostarted apps icon in xfce seetings manager you could try
[18:22] <SilentWarrior> xylox, my login screen is still KDE >< how can i make the other one default?
[18:57] <little> Are there any Xubuntu developers in the channel right now?
[19:06] <SiDi> little: yes
[19:06] <SiDi> there are several
[19:07] <little> Excellent, thanks! Pasting something into pastebin real quick.
[19:10] <little> I was thinking of switching to Ubuntu from Kubuntu since I don't want KDE4 and would like a long-term solution. I then found out that the Ubuntu default install comes with Mono (which I can remove). For reasons I'd rather not go into, I would rather not install a release that installs Mono by default. I installed Xubuntu in VirtualBox and did a locate for mono and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/209915/ and I'm wondering if that
[19:10] <little> means Xubuntu also installs mono.
[19:11] <little> If not, then today I install Xubuntu. (:
[19:11] <SiDi> little: we dont ship mono ;)
[19:11] <SiDi> its just some stuff that has similar names, but we dont have libmono* and mono* installed by default in Xubuntu
[19:11] <SiDi> only C / Python stuff
[19:12] <little> SiDi: Do you know what those files are that locate found?
[19:12] <little> And do you guys plan to keep Mono out of Xubuntu? I'd like to install a release I can count on keeping for a while. (:
[19:12] <SiDi> app-install stuff probably comes from gnome-app-install
[19:13] <SiDi> little: i dont have any decision power about that, i'm not actually a xubuntu dev
[19:13] <SiDi> but i dont think it should happen soon. mono takes a lot of room on a CD
[19:13] <cemunal> hi all
[19:14] <little> SiDi: Thanks for the information. I appreciate it. (:
[19:14] <SiDi> the rest of these locate files seem to be related to a font, a driver, and some other stuff
[19:14] <SiDi> cemunal: hiya
[19:14] <cemunal> how can i disable update notifier?
[19:14] <SiDi> cemunal: Apps -> Parameters -> Startup & session
[19:14] <SiDi> then, third tab, and uncheck it
[19:15] <little> SiDi: Okay, thanks. I did compare them to what comes on Ubuntu, and the list on Ubuntu is much larger, so I wasn't sure. (:
[19:15] <cemunal> SiDi: xubuntu 8.04 lts
[19:17] <SiDi> cemunal: oh
[19:18] <SiDi> cemunal: i don't remember the path in 8.04, but it should be somewhere in the XFCE Parameters. if you're lazy, you can go to .config/autostart and edit the update-notifier file there ;)
[19:19] <cemunal> SiDi: i don't know what i did but i can't see notifier now :D
[19:20] <cemunal> SiDi: thanks
[20:17] <ramrod> S0210, i have solved my opera flash problem
[20:18] <ramrod> i downloaded the libflashplayer.so here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[20:18] <ramrod> and in opera i linked to it, now it works
[21:02] <S0210> ramrod: do you mean the libflashplayer.so? where have you put it? how did you lnked to it in Opera?
[21:02] <ramrod> i put it into /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[21:03] <ramrod> and then under tools > preferences
[21:03] <ramrod> advanced > content
[21:03] <ramrod> and then at the plugin options
[21:03] <ramrod> change path and add
[21:04] <ramrod> but i tried it with the .so file on the desktop and it worked either you only have to put the right path in the plugin options
[21:06] <S0210> I haven't checked it yet but is this ver10 r22?
[21:07] <ramrod> yes
[21:07] <ramrod> wait are you using 64bit jaunty?
[21:08] <S0210> ramrod: yes
[21:08] <S0210> ramrod: it works
[21:08] <ramrod> ok cool
[21:09] <S0210> ramrod: first of all thanks. but I do not understand because the plugin came with ubuntu-restricted-extras was also 10.0 r22...
[21:09] <ramrod> yes
[21:09] <ramrod> in the german ubuntu forums
[21:09] <ramrod> they say that the flashplugin out of the repos is wrapped by an 32bit wrapper
[21:10] <ramrod> and that this may be a problem for opera, but i dont know if they are right :)
[21:22] <S0210> ramrod: thanks again...
[21:33] <eu-eng1> Can somebody help me with my xsession-errors ?
[21:34] <forces> !ask | eu-eng1
[21:34] <eu-eng1> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[21:34] <eu-eng1> Setting IM through im-switch for locale=nl_NL.
[21:34] <eu-eng1> Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[21:34] <eu-eng1> Failed to run gnome-keyring-daemon: Failed to execute child process "gnome-keyring-daemon" (Bestand of map bestaat niet)
[21:34] <eu-eng1> xfdesktop[3268]: starting up
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (x-session-manager:3101): WARNING **: Unable to launch "pureftpd" (specified by autostart/pureftpd.desktop): Failed to execute child process "pureftpd" (Bestand of map bestaat niet)
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (update-notifier:3296): WARNING **: already running?
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): WARNING **: couldn't communicate with gnome keyring daemon via dbus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:34] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb
[21:35] <eu-eng1> ** (nm-applet:3300): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed
[21:35] <eu-eng1> ** (update-notifier:3271): DEBUG: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check returned 0 (security: 0)
[21:35] <eu-eng1> ** (update-notifier:3271): DEBUG: crashreport_check
[21:35] <eu-eng1> Error: No running window found
[21:35] <forces> flood!!
[21:35] <forces> ban him!
[21:36] <S0210> problem!!
[21:36] <S0210> help him!
[21:36] <S0210> :-)
[21:38] <eu-eng1> I use xubuntu, please help me with one error. Thats anough for to day. Thanks please.
[21:38] <SiDi> eu-eng1: use pastebin's for big output, and you didnt tell us which error in particular. the nm-applet thing doesnt seem to be annoying (do you have problems with it?) The pureftpd error is self-explicit, it cant launch pureftpd. and your update-notifier seems to launch twice
[21:38] <SiDi> !paste
[21:38] <eu-eng1> Oh sorrie that i did not use pastebin. Sorry for that.
[21:51] <eu-eng1> Oke, the rule is to use pastebin. So here is my link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/209983/    First i aks to find a solution for the problem that the update-notifier seems to launch twice. Please.
[21:59] <eu-eng1> Sorrie, but i tried to understand xubuntu. I am a beginner with this file xsession-errors. I do not know where to start finding the problem from the error log. To start asking, may be this question; Why is says the errorlog update-notifier already running?
[22:03] <eu-eng1> About the nm-applet have maybe a problem with the wifi enviroment. Becaus it is an old one without wpa. So Firt wil my built wifi in on my laptop ask for a network with wep. But that is not possible.
[22:05] <eu-eng1> After it, it wil connect by another usb wifi to my router. And than my laptop connect to the internet.
[22:07] <eu-eng1> Does it help if i say sorry to you. Please can you help me with a solution for these problems, to make me a user instead of a beginner.
[22:07] <eu-eng1> ?
[22:09] <SiDi> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=107942 new xfwm :]
[22:10] <SiDi> eu-eng1: we're all volunteers and not always in front of our screens, so we dont answer immediately
[22:10] <SiDi> Your nm-applet errors, you shouldn't worry about them, in my opinion.
[22:10] <SiDi> Please type the following command in a terminal : "ps aux | grep update-notifier" and show me the output in another paste, eu-eng1
[22:11] <eu-eng1> Oke, thanks, no problem.
[22:11] <SiDi> it'll display the processes running with "update-notifier" in their name
[22:16] <eu-eng1> Oke i did command ps aux.....and this is my pastebin; http://paste.ubuntu.com/209990/
[22:16] <SiDi> ok so it only runs once, eu-eng1
[22:17] <SiDi> means you shouldn't worry about this one either :)
[22:17] <SiDi> can you manually kill and relaunch pureftpd and tell me if there are particular errors ? This way we'll know what goes wrong with it
[22:18] <SiDi> Failed to run gnome-keyring-daemon: Failed to execute child process "gnome-keyring-daemon" (Bestand of map bestaat niet)
[22:18] <SiDi> What does the dutch part mean in english ?
[22:21] <eu-eng1> First i wil command /etc/init.d/pureftpd restart oke?
[22:22] <SiDi> yeh, with sudo
[22:22] <eu-eng1> Bestand of map bestaat niet; it means - > file or directory is not to be / is not on your computer
[22:24] <SiDi> try sudo apt-get reinstall gnome-keyring libgnome-keyring0
[22:24] <eu-eng1> I installed xubuntu from the cd, so maybe theres is not gnome-keyring-daemon installed maybe??
[22:24] <SiDi> it should be here
[22:25] <SiDi> Did you check the CD's integrity before installing ?
[22:28] <eu-eng1> In the program:"session and startup" I add pureftpd. But pureftpd wil not start with the command ; laptop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/pureftpd start
[22:28] <eu-eng1> sudo: /etc/init.d/pureftpd: command not found
[22:32] <eu-eng1> Oh sorry, but may be, i did not check the intergrity before installing.
[22:33] <SiDi> eu-eng1: remove it from autostart
[22:34] <SiDi> it should be in the "services" section, not in autostart
[22:34] <eu-eng1> oke, i remove pureftpd form autostart.
[22:34] <SiDi> its a daemon
[22:34] <SiDi> !daemon
[22:34] <SiDi> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(Unix)
[22:34] <eu-eng1> oke
[22:35] <SiDi> you can use ps aux | grep pure if you wanna check if it runs
[22:39] <eu-eng1> Oke, and my pastebin of ps aux | grep pure; http://paste.ubuntu.com/210003/
[22:40] <eu-eng1> Thanks for saying about daemon remove from startup. I have another question for autostart. Is xfce4-panel in autostart the right place? Is that oke?
[22:44] <eu-eng1> Oke, i did reinstalle  gnome-keyring libgnome-keyring0
[22:45] <eu-eng1> And about nm-applet, i shoud not worry anymore. thanks
[22:47] <SiDi> eu-eng1: it already starts normally
[22:47] <SiDi> eu-eng1: autostart is for the things you want to start with YOUR user session
[22:47] <SiDi> for the things that run on the whole system, you should use Apps -> System -> Services
[22:55] <eu-eng1> My computer cannot find the repository of the pureftpd packet. After sudo apt-get install pureftpd it says cannot read E:
[22:55] <SiDi> its pure-ftpd
[22:56] <eu-eng1> thanks
[22:58] <eu-eng1> Oke, that was the solution. Gpureadmin was installed. But not pure-ftpd. Thanks for help.
[23:01] <eu-eng1> The goal was one solution. So thanks for help. It is time to go sleep. Sleep well....
[23:03] <SiDi> eu-eng1: thanks, you too
[23:44] <ChrisHeilmann> hmm
[23:45] <ChrisHeilmann> I upgraded to 9.04 it asks me to restart but just shuts down
[23:45] <ChrisHeilmann> when i then restart I get inconsistent file system errors
[23:45] <forces> check the file system with fsck