[00:00] <zykotick9> jrib: i'd say anything suggesting adding 10.10 repos to 10.04 is questionable material anyways ;)
[00:00] <darkprincess> Nope found it.
[00:00] <ccbn> darkprincess: cool, good luck, i gotta go, others should be able to help if you still have questions, good luck!
[00:01] <darkprincess> Kk Thanks!
[00:01] <jrib> zykotick9: *nod*
[00:01] <jrib> john_doe_jr: hold on, let me grab a 12.04 iso really quick
[00:02] <john_doe_jr> jrib: man thank you so much for all your help!  Will you have to do a sudo apt-get update  and a sudo apt-get upgrade…that might take some time
[00:03] <john_doe_jr> jrib: it's 64bit 12.04 Server
[00:04] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well at least 10 minutes to download
[00:04] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've learned to just do a sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade and then immediately snap shot it in vmware....
[00:04] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yeah, that's a good idea
[00:05] <john_doe_jr> jrib: if you can help me get this working….I think I'm going scream b/c I've been @ this for days
[00:06] <john_doe_jr> I have noticed that I do get a dpkg-checkbuilddepts says, unmet build dependencies: gsoap (<< 2.8) libflaim-dev (>= 4.0)
[00:07] <john_doe_jr> *3
[00:09] <ASkogli> Hey. One quick quastion: I used a guide for Ubuntu 10.10 when I was setting up my partitions, is there any difference between that setup and the setup for Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:09] <jrib> ASkogli: what guide?
[00:09] <Biocide> you could just update
[00:09] <john_doe_jr> how do you check the version of your installed software from the command line?
[00:09] <jrib> john_doe_jr: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[00:10] <Biocide> the setup for 12.04 is virtually seamless
[00:10] <zykotick9> ASkogli: assuming you aren't using a 2+TB drive, i doubt there is much, if any difference.  IF it is 2+tb, then yes - things have changed.
[00:10] <Biocide> i upgraded from 11.10 threw the update manager
[00:10] <ASkogli> A guide from linuxBSDos.com.
[00:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: thanks
[00:10] <ASkogli> It's a 640GB drive
[00:11] <Biocide> i would be running 12.10 beta 2 but whats the point when 12.10 comes out 2mrw
[00:11] <zykotick9> ASkogli: i "bet" it's find then.  but don't use outdated guides!  try to search for official or quasi-offical ubuntu documentation VS some random post on the internet.
[00:11] <zykotick9> ASkogli: s/find/fine/
[00:12] <ASkogli> The reason I wonder is because its a partition called /boot. And when I check other guide there was no /boot in those guides
[00:12] <john_doe_jr> Well, apparently I need a version of gsoap that is << 2.8 but I have 2.8.4-2…do you know how I can down grade my version?
[00:12] <zykotick9> ASkogli: ahh.  /boot separate is silly!
[00:12] <ASkogli> Opps...
[00:12] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I'd check the nofolder documentation to see if that's really required (a version less that 2.8)
[00:13] <ASkogli> How will this effect me when I going to Install Windows 7 as a secondary OS
[00:13] <zykotick9> ASkogli: it has a couple of required "use-cases" but generally, modern systems don't need a separate /boot - that was to address an old limitation.
[00:13] <iceroot> zykotick9: depending on the needs
[00:13] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, nofolder only gives u the installation procedure for open SUSE…http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/server/opensuse/opensuse_11-3/
[00:13] <ASkogli> Ok. Thanks. :)
[00:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: there are cases where a separate /boot is usefull
[00:14] <Dacs> howdy folks
[00:14] <zykotick9> iceroot: "it has a couple of required "use-cases" but  generally
[00:14] <SuperMiguel> if i want to dual boot a ubuntu and windows... But i want to have a intel matrix raid setup.. Which OS should i install first? ubuntu or Windows?
[00:14] <iceroot> zykotick9: yeah, generally / and /home are enough
[00:14] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: is that a fakeraid? or a real hardware raid?
[00:14] <somethingoranoth> stupid question, what's the use in using gksudo over sudo to run a program?
[00:15] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: fake
[00:15] <iceroot> somethingoranoth: the environment
[00:15] <ASkogli> Well, it seems like I have done it right, Ubuntu 12.04 booted just fine. :)
[00:15] <Dacs> i am still not able to get to my desktop in my 12.04.1 this happend after i was following a post on how to remove apach2
[00:15] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: sudo is for CLI commands only, gksudo is to be used for GUI apps
[00:15] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: fakeraid is bad
[00:15] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: but can be used for both CLI and GUI apps :)
[00:15] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: i would suggest to put windows on fakeraid and linux on software-raid
[00:15] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello!
[00:15] <Dacs> i can still access tty's
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I need to ask an op a question.
[00:16] <somethingoranoth> but running a gui app with sudo still launches it...
[00:16] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: but what is the reason you want a raid for?
[00:16] <Dacs> any help will be highly appreciated
[00:16] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: how can i do that?
[00:16] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: my laptop comes stock with two SSD in raid 0
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I see there are three ops online!
[00:16] <actionParsnip> somethingoranoth: yes but it isn't setup right and you can damage the ownership of files in yur home folder
[00:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> So anyway, my question (for an op)
[00:16] <somethingoranoth> ah
[00:16] <iceroot> somethingoranoth: that does not mean that it will run always successfull, there are cases where sudo will fail and only gksudo will work
[00:17] <ASkogli> One more question: The Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver... Is it safe? (Hade Pear Linux 5 for 2 hours ago, it crashed hooribly after fiddeling with Nvidia drivers, therefor Ubuntu now)
[00:17] <zykotick9> somethingoranoth: using sudo with gui apps can lead to root owning file in a users home director, which leads to tears.
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How do I get a dock on the bottom of my screen (similar to a Mac)? I see it on videos on Youtube. I have the latest Xubuntu.
[00:17] <actionParsnip> !gksudo | somethingoranoth
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: install one, there are many to go at
[00:17] <jrib> Hishamoto_Masuki: was that your question for an op?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> actionParsnip! You're my favorite op, could you help me out?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Where could I find one?
[00:17] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: two ssds in raid0?
[00:17] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: yes
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> And yes jrib
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: I'm not an op :)
[00:17] <_______________> when 12.10 wil publish? which time?
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> :O
[00:17] <actionParsnip> !dock
[00:17] <Dacs> can anyone help me with this issue
[00:17] <Hishamoto_Masuki> But you're so smart :O
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Anyways, where could I find a dock?
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: been at this game a long time :)
[00:18] <jrib> Hishamoto_Masuki: ok, keep in mind *everyone* can answer support questions.  ops are really just for managing the channel (keep spam away, etc)
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: search software centre
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay, one sec.
[00:18] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: hm sounds useless. ssd is fast enough and raid 0 will increase the change of a complete data fail by 50%
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Dacs: ask and see
[00:18] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i have been since yesterday :)
[00:18] <ASkogli> One more question: The Experimental NVIDIA binary Xorg driver... Is it safe? (Hade Pear Linux 5 for 2 hours ago, it crashed hooribly after fiddeling with Nvidia drivers, therefor Ubuntu now)
[00:18] <Queops> _______________: before the clock strikes 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands on the 18th
[00:18] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I think I might've found one.
[00:19] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: and fakeraid is even more evil because the raid will only work with your specific controller
[00:19] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: you around ?
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I'm installing it.
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It won't install, it needs Ubuntu
[00:19] <iceroot> ASkogli: you know what Experimental means?
[00:19] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Um, could you find one for me? *Linux newb*
[00:19] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: I use the ones from the Xorg update archive (less fresh more stable)
[00:20] <ASkogli> Ok, how do I get my hands on them? :)
[00:20] <iceroot> ASkogli: why not using the default drivers?
[00:20] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I really think that gsoap is the problem….when I try to build it it states, "gsoap (<< 2.8)…..when I do a sudo apt-cache policy gsoap…it shows I have 2.8.4-2
[00:21] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:21] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yes, I think you are right.  But I would check that the package has that requirement correct
[00:21] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: gives the 304.51 driver
[00:21] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: well its makes my system very fast =)
[00:21] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: 1200mb/s read speed
[00:21] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I found a good Dock called Docky :)
[00:21] <SolarAquarion> I have a kernel panic
[00:22] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thanks guys gtg
[00:22] <lewellyn> SolarAquarion: join the club
[00:22] <ASkogli> iceroot: In hope of that Nvidia drivers will let me see the hole screen on my 720p TV instead of letting 20% outside the screen
[00:22] <SolarAquarion> Llewellyn ash?
[00:22] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: a normal ssd have 600MByte/s? cant imaging
[00:22] <lewellyn> hm?
[00:22] <actionParsnip> ASkogli: I use it on my 6150LE chip to make Urban Terror playable
[00:22] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how do I do that for the "simias-build-deps_1.0_all.deb" package…sudo apt-cache policy simias-build-deps_1.0_all.deb ?
[00:23] <dr_willis> ASkogli:  that sounds like the overscan settings are set on the TV.
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> My sisters laptop is odd
[00:23] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: but anyways, so how to do it.. fakeraid my windows, and software raid my linux?
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> BusyBox built in shell
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> Initramfs
[00:23] <SolarAquarion> My Ubuntu isn't booting
[00:24] <ASkogli> Maybe, when thinking of it, even Windows didn't work on my TV, had to manually rezise the screen resolution using the Nvidia drive
[00:24] <lewellyn> ok. so 12.10 gets me the kernel panic during cd-rom boot, unlike 12.04. and it's a far more concise kp than before. http://imgur.com/kbl67
[00:24] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: the easiest would be to remove fakeraid and use a normal setup, or you enable a raid0 array in the bios and install windows first, then ubuntu ((alternate cd))
[00:24] <iceroot> lewellyn: #ubuntu+1
[00:24] <dr_willis> ASkogli:  check the tv's menus/configs. and disable overscan if you can.
[00:24] <lewellyn> this is, of course, a boot-time kp unique to ubuntu
[00:24] <lewellyn> iceroot: it happens in 10.04-12.04 too
[00:24] <actionParsnip> SolarAquarion: try booting to liveCD and you can chroot from there to check on Grub config etc
[00:24] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: but in my opinion Raid is totally useless in a notebook
[00:24] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm looking through http://nofolder.googlecode.com/files/ifolder3-linux.tar.gz at the moment
[00:24] <lewellyn> it just so happens that the screen is sane to read from 12.10. i'll post the 12.04 one if you prefer.
[00:25] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: got any input on UEFI vs Legacy?
[00:25] <iceroot> lewellyn: processor context corrupt
[00:25] <john_doe_jr> jrib: what is debian squeeze? This site might help: http://wiki.phys.ethz.ch/readme/compiling_ifolder_packages_on_debian_ubuntu
[00:25] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: dont use UEFI
[00:25] <lewellyn> iceroot: only in ubuntu though. so it's an ubuntu bug.
[00:25] <iceroot> lewellyn: hm
[00:25] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: reason?
[00:26] <lewellyn> just went through a half dozen distros today.
[00:26] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: its a Microsoft Jail developed to steal your freedom
[00:26] <lewellyn> seriously it's unique to ubuntu. even debian boots.
[00:26] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: gotcha... So where do i install grub?
[00:26] <somethingoranoth> Does Ubuntu do anything to override any options entered in /etc/default/grub?
[00:26] <alien2050> SolarAquarion: step 1 - boot live cd step 2 - as root mount your ubuntu partition into /1 (mkdir /1; mount /dev/sda1 /1); do a grub repair (grub-install --root-directory=/1 /dev/sda)
[00:26] <lewellyn> since you don't like talk of 12.10, here's the 12.04 ss of the kp: http://imgur.com/u4Fnk
[00:26] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: create a partition by itself for it? non raided?
[00:26] <jrib> john_doe_jr: squeeze is a release of debian
[00:27] <ASkogli> dr_willis: Cheap TV, no settings.... Hehe. Just have to buy a new TV after christmas I guess. :P
[00:27] <alien2050> SolarAquarion: then reboot it should be ok
[00:27] <lewellyn> more info, but not terribly much more useful.
[00:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yup 6.0…that's a while back
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: use the fakeraid array
[00:27] <michealPW> actionParsnip: By the way, your advice helped me get KDE 4.9 installed without any problems, everything's working brilliantly now thanks very much :)
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: it is one device containing the two drives
[00:27] <michealPW> How do you remember commands like that, with apt-get to find all the kde things? HEHE!
[00:27] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: just use the alternate cd, there is a fakeraid option
[00:27] <Dacs> paste.ubuntu.com/1286123 <--- can someone help me please
[00:27] <actionParsnip> michaelPW: glad you got the gold :)
[00:28] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so dont do what you recommended first? install windows in fakeraid and ubuntu on a software raid?
[00:28] <lewellyn> so does anyone have suggestions for me, as to how to stop whatever ubuntu-specific behavior the kernel is doing?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:29] <lewellyn> i've, of course, fiddled the acpi options in both the bios and the kernel line. no love.
[00:29] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: just use one fakeraid array for every partition you want
[00:29] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: windows, / and /home + swap
[00:30] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so create 2 arrays on the bios?
[00:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: u got it downloaded yet?
[00:30] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: find it more handy then one big fakeraid array but raid on notebooks is totally useless...
[00:30] <ASkogli> Anyone got expercience from noobslab? Considering to use the Mac OSX Lion Theme.
[00:31] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: it will increase the chance of a total data loss by 50%
[00:31] <actionParsnip> Dacs: I don't think nv is around anymore, I believe nouveau now replaces it
[00:31] <lewellyn> btw, the output of prior-to-12.04 is the same as 12.04. :/
[00:31] <t|ask> lewellyn: new hardware? memory error?
[00:32] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: ya but that only matters if you care about data.. im more 95% speed 5% data... at least for the type of job im doing
[00:32] <Dacs> actionParsnip: but my laptop was working until i tried to remove apache2. something doesn't add up
[00:32] <lewellyn> t|ask: i've seen this on 2 motherboard/cpu combos now. different ram in each.
[00:32] <actionParsnip> Dacs: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:32] <lewellyn> and again, only ubuntu.
[00:33] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: you know that your cpu is doing the job for the raid?
[00:33] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yeah i'll just run it off the live env
[00:33] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: only on hardware raid the cpu will not do the job
[00:33] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: ya i know :(
[00:34] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: so create 2 arrays in bios, so 2 fakeraid arrays, which OS do i install first?
[00:34] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you take a look at this tar.gz I linked before?
[00:34] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: windows
[00:35] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: and grub on my linux array?
[00:35] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yes I downloaded and read the READ ME file ...
[00:35] <Dacs> precise
[00:36] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen?
[00:36] <alecb> like if I'd want to run it from the command line
[00:36] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: yes and set the boot order to that array
[00:36] <Dacs> actionParsnip: precise
[00:37] <iceroot> SuperMiguel: grub will then boot linux from that array or start the chainloader for windows to start the other array
[00:37] <actionParsnip> Dacs: do you use the proprietary video driver? Do you use an xorg.conf file?
[00:37] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: cool thxs =)
[00:37] <iceroot> alecb: it should be the indicator-applet
[00:37] <iceroot> alecb: so the battery is not a single app
[00:37] <Dacs> actionParsnip: the way everything was setip was when i boot my laptop it goes stright to xbuntu
[00:38] <actionParsnip> Dacs: doesn't answer the questions
[00:38] <kayve_> I just had a life upheaval and
[00:38] <Dacs> actionParsnip: am not understanding your question then
[00:38] <alecb> iceroot: is there a name of a general binary to run though, even if it's for more stuff. indicator-applet wasn't it
[00:39] <actionParsnip> Dacs: did you install the proprietary nvdia driver using the additional drivers app?
[00:39] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i never had to edit Xorg.conf no
[00:39] <Raptors_> Does anyone know if there is software like CrytalDiskMark (memory benchmarking) for linux?
[00:39] <iceroot> alecb: sorry dont know
[00:39] <Dacs> actionParsnip: i want to say yes. but i am not sure
[00:39] <Raptors_> http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html
[00:40] <Dacs> actionParsnip:  i cant remember
[00:40] <actionParsnip> Dacs: run:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:40] <somsip> !12.10 | somsip
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay
[00:40] <kayve_> I had to move out of my place that had a DSL connection so I got a Sprint Sierra Wireless hotspot and the internet connection is not persistant
[00:40] <kayve_> The Sprint ppl claim it is a problem with my OS
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Parsnip, I got the dock, but I need help
[00:40] <iceroot> Raptors_: memtest
[00:40] <dormito> When I leave my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop idle for an unknow period of time the mouse and keyboard stop responding. They are usb but unpluging and repluging them does now seem to work (and other usb devices continue to work). The openssh still accepts connections. At first I thought it was a standby issue because the screens would be off, however when I disabled screensaver/blanking the issue still would arise. The problem does not seem to occure
[00:40] <dormito> while the the system is in use (but it hasnt happened very often so I can not be sure of that)
[00:40] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It says 'enable compositing'
[00:40] <D4rkH4nd> I need some help badly. My desktop keeps crashing i havent a clue why
[00:40] <Hishamoto_Masuki> How do I enable compositing?
[00:40] <iceroot> Raptors_: should also check the speed
[00:40] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: it needs 3D accelleration and Compiz window manager
[00:41] <kayve_> Is there a configuration I can investigate to get my Ubuntu 12.04 to maintain a persistant connection to my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot?
[00:41] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you find something that something interesting about the dependency requirements?
[00:41] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Whaa?
[00:41] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I don't know what that means...um...
[00:41] <Dacs> actionParsnip: its telling me it is the newset
[00:41] <kayve_> I keep getting dropped
[00:41] <somethingoranoth> :S
[00:41] <kayve_> I have to constantly reconnect
[00:41] <jrib> john_doe_jr: nope. I figured the requirements should be in the files used to generate the rpm though
[00:42] <D4rkH4nd> Anyone able to help me desktop keeps crashing so it will crash shortly again
[00:42] <Hishamoto_Masuki> What exactly does that mean, Parsnip?
[00:42] <jrib> john_doe_jr: also, the tar.gz includes a copy of gsoap in dependencies/
[00:42] <actionParsnip> Dacs: what nvidia chip do you use?
[00:42] <kayve_> I can't maintain an internet session
[00:42] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: your video hardware needs to be able to and be configured to do 3D accelleration, then you need to install compiz
[00:43] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:43] <Dacs> actionParsnip: how can i list it
[00:43] <actionParsnip> Dacs: sudo lshw -C display
[00:43] <Dacs> actionParsnip: its not lsmod it is ls"somthing"
[00:43] <D4rkH4nd> Anyone able to help me desktop keeps crashing so it will crash shortly again. Unable to do anything other then web
[00:44] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I see the gsoap folder under linux-2.7…do I just download the src folder and attempt to compile it or something?
[00:44] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I installed it, Parsnip
[00:44] <actionParsnip> Hishamoto_Masuki: or, press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[00:45] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well I'm just suggesting that if you want to avoid using the deb packaging from that bzr repo, you may be able to compile this tar.gz yourself
[00:45] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here
[00:45] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here
[00:45] <kayve_> is there a configuration fix for this?
[00:45] <FloodBot1> kayve_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <spundun> hi all... should I use synaptic or software center?
[00:46] <kayve_> I can't tell WTF I am doing with respect to what you are saying, FLoodBot1 because of my connection problems
[00:46] <Dacs> actionParsnip: paste.ubuntu.com/1286141
[00:46] <D4rkH4nd> AND there goes my desktop Fudge
[00:46] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thank You Parsnip!
[00:47] <alecb> what's the name of the standard battery applet that's on the top-right of the screen? ie, the name of the binary, that I could run from a command line?
[00:47] <Dacs> actionParsnip: you got it
[00:47] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've never done that before…hold on let me make a folder and wget that tar.gz file into it
[00:49] <actionParsnip> Dacs: looks fine, the proprietary driver is loaded ok
[00:49] <D4rkH4nd> I could really use some help here LOL. Desktop crashing every 10min or so. im new to linux
[00:50] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: have you tested your RAM using memtest86+ from Grub?
[00:50] <D4rkH4nd> no
[00:50] <D4rkH4nd> just type memtest86+ in term ?
[00:51] <dormito> When I leave my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop idle for an unknow period of time the mouse and keyboard stop responding. They are usb but unpluging and repluging them does now seem to work (and other usb devices continue to work). The openssh still accepts connections. At first I thought it was a standby issue because the screens would be off, however when I disabled screensaver/blanking the issue still would arise. The problem does not seem to occure
[00:51] <dormito> while the the system is in use (but it hasnt happened very often so I can not be sure of that)
[00:51] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: no, its an option in Grub
[00:51] <Dacs> actionParsnip: so why i keep getting the black screen and i am only able to access tty
[00:51] <D4rkH4nd> how do i do it
[00:51] <rocket> which channel should I go to ask ubuntu/debian packaging questions?
[00:52] <actionParsnip> D4rkH4nd: hold SHIFT at boot
[00:52] <D4rkH4nd> okay ill try and come back
[00:52] <michealPW> how come lshw -C display shows my GPU at 33mhz? :|
[00:52] <actionParsnip> Dacs: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[00:52] <michealPW> That can't be right, it's a radeon 6550D hehe
[00:53] <kayve_> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[00:53]  * adirko is bouncing to 'Howard Stern Show - [Howard Stern Show CDHSRS101712 #01] 10-17-12 CF'
[00:53] <kayve_> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[00:55] <Joey_> Hey check this out: http://eb68b0af.goneviral.com
[00:55] <Nautilus> anyone around to help me debug/finish my compass install on Ubuntu 12.04?  http://pastebin.ca/2246958
[00:55] <john_doe_jr> jrib: alright so I've downloaded it and untarred it ….it has a autogen.sh file….shouldn't I run ~./configure or something at this point?
[00:56] <kringel84> Is 12.10 released yet? :)
[00:56] <L3top> michealPW: did you install fglrx?
[00:56] <kayve_> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[00:57] <somsip> kringel84: at some point in the next 24 hours, but usually it's some time during the day GMT
[00:57] <L3top> kayve_: why is it not persistent? Why is it dying?
[00:58] <john_doe_jr> jrib: u there?
[00:58] <kringel84> somsip: hard to wait for the CEST people though. ;-) thanks!
[00:59] <BETurner> Hello everyone :)
[00:59] <john_doe_jr> If I've downloaded some source files that have a autogen.sh file in it and a build-linux.sh in it…how do I start the install process?
[00:59] <jrib> john_doe_jr: usually ./autogen.sh first
[00:59] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm going to install 12.04 to vbox since live env is too slow...
[00:59] <BETurner> Yep
[01:00] <BETurner> Are you running the live from a cd/DVD?
[01:01] <lewellyn> so, basically, i'm just hosed with ubuntu?
[01:01] <john_doe_jr> jrib: Alright so ./autogen.sh —prefix=/usr?
[01:02] <jrib> john_doe_jr: sure
[01:02] <Dacs> where is Mr. action ?
[01:05] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I'm getting configure: error: no C Sharp compiler: mcs not found in $PATH…any idea why that means?
[01:05] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I guess you need mono-mcs
[01:06] <L3top> john_doe_jr: apt-cache search c# | grep compiler
[01:06] <L3top> oops... jrib gave it away.
[01:06] <t|ask> release is in about 12h, right?
[01:07] <john_doe_jr> jrib: awesome little command
[01:07]  * jrib steals L3top's credit
[01:07] <L3top> there is no hour t|ask. It releases when it releases. Tomorrow sometime
[01:07] <bnwkeys> L3top: thanks again for your help earlier today.
[01:07] <t|ask> L3top: Oh, I thought there is one, because someone said so... but better if not ,)
[01:08] <CyclicFlux> Greetings all!!!
[01:09] <L3top> Not sure what you meant there t|ask. I was just trying to show you how to find things you may need, whatever that need might be.
[01:09] <Guest69929> I had a quick question, its rather strange. I am not quite sure but I may of deleted the trash can in Ubuntu(however I don't believe this to be the case).  But yet the trash can is gone.
[01:09] <bnwkeys> When I run jockey I don't see any graphics drivers, it says that no third party drivers are installed, but it only lists my broadcom wireless driver.  Anybody have any idea why I can't configure my ATI driver with Jockey (can't see it, using a Gallium ATI driver on precise)?
[01:10] <t|ask> L3top: I guess, you mentioned jrib ... I meant the release hour ,)
[01:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: almost there….now stating configure: error: Package requirements (simias >= 1.0 were not met:  No package 'simias' found….any ideas how I get that package….I tried to apt-cache search simias and sudo apt-get install but didn't find anything named simias
[01:11] <bnwkeys> Guest69929: did you open Dash and search for "trash"?
[01:11] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:11] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:12] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:12] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:12] <L3top> !patience | kayve it also helps if you answer questions related to your problem.
[01:12] <D4rkH4nd> I did a memtest and it went thru and idk why my desktop keeps crashing. Something about  a gpu hang up ????
[01:13] <kayve> I suspect I will drop off the server soon once again
[01:13] <xyzone> kayve, sure not isp problem?
[01:13] <lewellyn> ok. i guess i have to throw in the towel on ubuntu for good. i just can't devote any more hours to trying to figure out why even the install CD does KPs at boot :/
[01:13] <obtrusivemouse> i just unzipped a tar.gz file, went inside the folder that it made but when i run make it says /bin/sh: 1: cmake: not found
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> guys, how do I restart the sound driver?
[01:13] <boggle> I am on ubuntu 12.04
[01:13] <jrib> john_doe_jr: don't know :)
[01:13] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: You should make at least 8 passes. You weren't gone long enough.
[01:13] <obtrusivemouse> does it need to find something called install?
[01:13] <boggle> contrast is really high
[01:13] <D4rkH4nd> kayve have you checked with sprint and the compadibility with ubuntu ?
[01:13] <bnwkeys> Has anyone else ever had issues with Jockey/AdditionalDrivers not showing any drivers?
[01:14] <boggle> anyone know how to fix massive contrast on i8xx graphics?
[01:14] <D4rkH4nd> It passes 100%
[01:14] <boggle> its only in movie player
[01:14] <boggle> not in anything else
[01:14] <john_doe_jr> jrib: guess when they were in their IDE there was a package named simias that they didn't include in the dependencies right?
[01:14] <Dacs> exit
[01:14] <Dacs> quit
[01:14] <CyclicFlux> I got disconnected earlier, but I was asking the question with reference to the trash.  This was not the trash icon itself, which is still present.  Upon opening the icon with a simple click everything was the same but the 'empty trash'/'restore trash' buttons were gray-scaled(unclickable)
[01:14] <L3top> bnwkeys: There are no additional drivers for your card. ATI completely dropped support for it.
[01:15] <bnwkeys> oh
[01:15] <bnwkeys> right XD
[01:15] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: im pretty sure its a software issue. Its says gpu hangup. compiz crashes then cairo then gnome.
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you attempt to compile it yet?
[01:16] <KRomeleoN> does 12.10 release at midnight?
[01:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: nope, still installing
[01:16] <level15_> hi, all. I am having massive kernel errors on my linux guests when my host has intensive I/O usage (VM images backup operations). Sometimes, the guest kernel will remount the fs in read only mode, which obviously crashes most of my services. I have been reading and have found that this might be related to host I/O cache, and that it might be a good idea to turn it off by settiong cache=none for all disks of my guests. Is that safe in case of a host
[01:16] <level15_> failure?  Has anyone had the same issue and, if so, how did you solve it? Thanks.
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> jrib: dang that is taking a whiel
[01:16] <john_doe_jr> *while
[01:16] <L3top> Could very well be... but again, to properly test ram you need to make about 8 passes... what version ubuntu are you on?
[01:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: have you checked these PPAs? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ifolder
[01:17] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: 12.04 is a n .10 out tonight ?
[01:17] <KRomeleoN> yeah is .10 rel at midnight?
[01:17] <KRomeleoN> i will stay up late
[01:17] <john_doe_jr> jrib: yes but none have built it for Ubuntu 12.04 Server though
[01:17] <Chiyo> hi there, does anyone here control the domain ubuntu.com?
[01:17] <L3top> no... it will be out sometime tomorrow. THere is no hour eta.
[01:17] <jgautier> I have a usb 3.0 drive and when I boot the computer it is never recognized.  If I unplug and plug it in then it will pop up on the desktop.  ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS.  Here is some logs from when i boot and it is not recognized.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286174/
[01:17] <penguinman> plus .10 has....issues....
[01:17] <penguinman> to put it mildly
[01:18] <db0rg> Hey all, does anyone know if VFIO was included in the ubuntu 3.6.2 kernel?
[01:18]  * L3top doesn't understand moving from LTS to the bleeding latest
[01:18] <jgautier> it shows up in dmesg and lsusb
[01:18] <jgautier> just not in mount
[01:18] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: what DM are you using?
[01:18] <KRomeleoN> L3top, what about gnomebuntu?
[01:18] <D4rkH4nd> DM ?
[01:18] <L3top> Desktop Manager
[01:19] <L3top> Unity, Gnome Classic, Gnome 2...
[01:19] <bnwkeys> Dungeon Master
[01:19] <john_doe_jr> jrib: is there any way I could just launchpad to install ifolder?
[01:19] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: umm gnome i guess. im nub so not sure if thats right
[01:19] <D4rkH4nd> L3top: gnome3
[01:19] <CyclicFlux> I know the location of trash is in ~/.local/share/Trash, but the folder is not currently there. I attempted creating a directory but was not able to see a difference.  Is it perhaps something that could be fixed with an apt-get upgrade/apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20]  * L3top facepalms at own gnome 2 question...
[01:20] <jrib> john_doe_jr: what do you mean?
[01:20] <rds_> hai guys ! I have a lot  of images in my folder with different pixel size , I want to filter those images like  pixel  below 300x300 is there any option in ubuntu or can i filter using terminal ?
[01:21] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: I am not very familiar with gnome 3... I know that Unity uses compiz and installing things like the compiz manager/various components break it.
[01:21] <john_doe_jr> jrib: those were binaries built on specific version of linux right?  so they couldn't be used on my Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server right?
[01:22] <D4rkH4nd> so take off compiz may help ?
[01:22] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well you can grab the source packages if you want and try to rebuild the
[01:22] <jrib> m
[01:22] <opakavic> Guys i see blank screen after booting 12.04 ! in my laptop
[01:23] <L3top> D4rkH4nd: someone more familiar with gnome 3 should answer that. Just be patient.
[01:23] <opakavic> i guess i have to pass in some boot parameters, can anybody help me
[01:23] <kayve> I have killed and reconnected my Sprint Sierra Wireless 4G LTE Tri-Fi Hotspot which is the only way I have an internet connection right now, during my connection session here multiple times
[01:23] <kayve> Is there a configuration fix for this using my Ubuntu 12.04 so that my internet connection remains persistant?
[01:23] <kayve> I suspect I will drop off the server soon once again
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> Canonical should release 12.10 niw
[01:24] <KRomeleoN> its 10/18 in Australia
[01:25] <L3top> !nomodeset | opakavic
[01:25] <jilebedev> Hi - can anyone recommend me a tool to find out detailed CPU information? cat /proc/cpuinfo doesn't produce a CPU model, and, in fact, it conflicts with what lshw produces. This is an older Intel Xeon CPU and I'd love a tool that's comprehensive and recognizes older model CPUs.
[01:27] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, just let me know when you have installed everything ….I really appreciate the help
[01:28] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciateit
[01:28] <opakavic> L3top: yes let me check
[01:28] <L3top> jilebedev: so cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model        is blank?
[01:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: installing now
[01:29] <CyclicFlux> I fixed it!!! I made the folder, and just needed a restart, so there was likely a .lock file/etc... for it.
[01:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i still wish I coulf find the documentation on what version of gsoap is actually required
[01:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, if you run the configure or attempt to build it..it will tell you what version of gsoap is required
[01:30] <SuperMiguel> iceroot: still around?
[01:30] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:31] <TheDarkPirate> hi people! does somebody know how to use the computer as a "bluetooth headset"?
[01:31] <TheDarkPirate> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and I'd like to do it with my Android smartphone
[01:32] <jilebedev> L3top: not blank: it just says a generic "Intel Xeon CPU @ 2.8GHz".
[01:32] <jilebedev> L3top: the gents in /r/sysadmin suggested 'dmidecode -t processor' and that's getting me somewhere.
[01:32] <john_doe_jr> jrib: that download is for the linux client…you need to download the ifolder3-enterprise-3.8..etc
[01:32] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:33] <HICorp> Good evening, all!
[01:33] <jrib> john_doe_jr: -enterprise is only available as .rpm though? What's ifolder3.9-linux.tar.gz?
[01:33] <jp2_ubuntu> running lts12.04, trying to install updates in gnome, but when I tell it to install, it doesn't seem to make any progress. How do I know if this is working or not?
[01:33] <L3top> jilebedev: sudo apt-get install cpuid
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: ifolder consists of a server and a client ...
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I'm trying to install the server
[01:34] <john_doe_jr> jrib: check this out: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/17922160/dir/other/com/ifolder3-enterprise-<IP_ADDRESS>28.1-2.1.x86_64.rpm.html
[01:35] <Dacs> anyone please
[01:36] <snatale42> Dacs, did you vid driver recently update??
[01:36] <jp2_ubuntu> it's using gnome update manager, says 130mb to be downloaded, but never starts a download :(
[01:36] <L3top> Dacs: did you install the proprietary gpu before shutdown?
[01:36] <pitviper296> how do you restart unity from the command line, i hit reset compiz settings and now I have no desktop or minimize , maximize or close on windows
[01:36] <webfox> Not sure which one is causing my poor old computer to suddenly turn off by heat, Firefox, Flash or Youtube.
[01:36] <L3top> pitviper296: sudo service lightdm restart
[01:37] <Dacs> snatale42: L3top no
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Generally with a compiz replace logging out or rebooting is needed.
[01:37] <Dacs> snatale42: i think i did update before shutdown
[01:37] <altin_> how can I see all the open ports of my router via a command ?
[01:37] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: "sudo restart lightdm" is shorter
[01:38] <pitviper296> L3top: I've tried that keeps restarting but only shows my wall paper , @wilee tried rebooting as well. had to run firefox from terminal
[01:38] <webfox> But I suspect being Flash the villain here.
[01:38] <jrib> john_doe_jr: well at least https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iFolderInstall should also allow for the server to install (if we can get it to work)
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, You might need to reset unity which is alt-f2 unity --reset
[01:39] <john_doe_jr> jrib: well, I'm on stand by…I've tried really hard to get it to work using those instructions on that site
[01:40] <Dacs> here i go again. when i boot my laptop which running 12.04.1 and was working perfect to the point when i shut it down. now when i power it on i get bios screen, then a quick screen flash showing xbuntu and a quick nvidia screen then a black screen anyone help is appreciate it
[01:40] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm ignoring the version requirement on gsoap and seeing what happens
[01:40] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  ok I can try that. just started ccsm from terminal and enabled unity. going to service lightdm restart , if noting then unity --reset
[01:40] <alien2050> simple question probably... how do you completely reset gtkrc (I've installed kxstudio repo and it screws with the theme in gtk 2)
[01:40] <Dacs> is it simple to just re-install since no one here is able to figure out what is my issue?!!
[01:41] <john_doe_jr> jrib: alright…on the edge of my chair …maybe you can get this to work
[01:41] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, Dacs. Just time-consuming.
[01:41] <alien2050> even tried ln -sf /usr/share/themes/Radiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0
[01:41] <kringel84> quit
[01:41] <alien2050> but it still is black background quite ugly......
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, That will reset compiz as well I believe so just a heads up. If you are tweaking compiz, there are lots of web pages on doing this. You can also have a compiz restart button using the fusion icon as a launcher on the desktop.
[01:42] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: i mean , every 30min someone ask me to run a command and i hear nothing back from them
[01:42] <jrib> alien2050: you sure it's not a gtk3 issue?
[01:42] <alien2050> also tried gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme --type string "" and gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme ""
[01:42] <alien2050> well it could be... who controls the background is what i d like to know
[01:42] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: It can get hectic in here. We all get lost in the shuffle sometimes.
[01:43] <alien2050> it's not gnome-shell, just unity 3
[01:43] <jrib> alien2050: the wallpaper?
[01:43] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: i understand
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> does 12.10 release at midnight?
[01:43] <alien2050> nope... for example... my skype has a black bg now, also qt designer, and most guis
[01:43] <jrib> KRomeleoN: no; when it's ready
[01:43] <bazhang> KRomeleoN, no
[01:43] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: is there a recovery repair like in windows
[01:43] <KRomeleoN> reporters are already reviewing the final version
[01:44] <alien2050> wallpaper is fine, firefox is fine
[01:44] <jrib> alien2050: how did you change it originally?
[01:44] <bazhang> KRomeleoN, it's not out. so thats not possible
[01:44] <alien2050> like I said, I installed KXstudio repo and it dumps a bunch of gtkrc files
[01:44] <alien2050> but even when I remove them, it's like it's cached
[01:44] <jrib> alien2050: "a bunch"?  which?
[01:45] <jrib> john_doe_jr: this takes a long time to build...
[01:45] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: Not as such. If you're not comfortable doing something like that with what knowledge you have, I normally suggest a clean install.
[01:45] <alien2050> you can have a look at what it does here: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Downloads
[01:45] <alien2050> there's a link to a file called KXstudio artwork
[01:45] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I've got a pretty powerful machine though…what are the commands that you used…did you follow the website exactly?
[01:46] <jgautier> update on my problem the usb drive will be detected if i turn the computer all the way off and back on but will not be recognized if i do a restart/reboot
[01:46] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee: well unity --reset worked. But for some reason when I click my home folder it doesn't show the left panel that has , docs, pictures, mounted drives and other shortcuts
[01:46] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[01:46] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: so basically what you are saying that windows will be a better OS
[01:46] <jrib> john_doe_jr: yes, I'm just waiting for bzr-buildpackage to finish.  All I did was edit the gsoap package requirement
[01:46] <faoiseamh> ^12.04
[01:46] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  nevermind
[01:47] <alien2050> I don't think it's the point though... I just would like to reset it
[01:47] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: this will be the third time for me in the past year i have to follow and update with a clean install
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: If you anticipate having to restore your system regularly, sure.
[01:47] <alien2050> there has to be a way to "execute" a gtkrc file
[01:47] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: This started as an update?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296_, You found the button, hehe.
[01:47] <alien2050> is gtk3 theme only for gnome-shell or does it bleed through unity
[01:48] <jrib> alien2050: get rid of the packages you installed
[01:48] <alien2050> somehow
[01:48] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  stupid hot-key shouldn't have played in the rain
[01:48] <alien2050> yeah I tried that... doesn't work
[01:48] <jrib> alien2050: *purge* the packages you installed
[01:48] <alien2050> like I said I did it
[01:48] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  compiz-extra - raind hot key is shift f9
[01:48] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: then i beleive "update faliure gets bundled with ubuntu" will be my new shirt :)
[01:48] <alien2050> actually did even better, I reinstalled the OS to a clean ubuntu
[01:49] <alien2050> but my home dir still has the conf somewhere
[01:49] <jrib> alien2050: so with a fresh new user, you do not have the problem?
[01:49] <L3top> Dacs: I am sure it can be fixed without reinstalling.
[01:50] <alien2050> no, but I really want to track it down cuz there's tons of customization I've got
[01:50] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: How did you go about updating? Sorry if you're repeating yourself.
[01:50] <Dacs> L3top: it is just that eveyone that know how to fix it is busy right?
[01:50] <jrib> alien2050: well it's likely ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini or some sort of dconf/gsettings setting
[01:51] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: 'apt-get update'
[01:51] <alien2050> yeah I know... just having a hard time figuring it out...
[01:51] <pitviper296_> wilee-nilee:  ty for the help on that, going to reboot and might jump back in chat
[01:51] <jrib> john_doe_jr: it finally finished (with an error regarding gsoap)
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296_ cool
[01:51] <DaemonicApathy> Dacs: That basically just updates a list of packages...shouldn't break anything.
[01:51] <john_doe_jr> jrib: great…any idea how to correct that problem?
[01:52] <alien2050> settings.ini didn't tried this one yet let me try it
[01:52] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286203/ you probably need to find yourself an earlier copy of gsoap unless you want to hack on this libsimias
[01:52] <Dacs> DaemonicApathy: shouldn't is the keyword
[01:52] <L3top> Dacs: you would have had to use apt-get upgrade to actually apply the updated packages. I am not busy, but I burned the bugger out of my left hand... covered in blisters... so I am slow.
[01:52] <alien2050> is there a way to reload gtk-3 without killing unity?
[01:52] <alien2050> is it unity --replace?
[01:53] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how do I do that?
[01:53] <Dacs> is there an op here?
[01:53] <alien2050> unity replace is no good
[01:53] <L3top> there are ops... but they don't arrive unless there is a channel problem.
[01:53] <shockingbehavur> !ubottu
[01:54] <Dacs> L3top:can you help me then
[01:54] <L3top> Dacs: for fun, try booting with the nomodeset kernel param.
[01:55] <jrib> john_doe_jr: actually the makefile just copies these files for some reason...
[01:55] <L3top> !nomodeset | Dacs
[01:56] <Dacs> L3top: please understand that i am using the same laptop to chat to you now. i can only access tty
[01:56] <Dacs> l3
[01:56] <Dacs> L3top: no mouse btw :)
[01:56] <L3top> Dacs: I see. lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:56] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did you get .deb files in the build area?
[01:57] <jrib> john_doe_jr: no
[01:57] <L3top> Dacs: lynx will give you web btw in tty.
[01:57] <Dacs> L3top: i  have it
[01:58] <jp2_ubuntu> When trying to install updates in gnome on 12.04lts I keep running into "Task cannot be monitored or controlled" the connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[01:58] <Dacs> but don't know how to yank and paste from here to there :)
[01:58] <jp2_ubuntu> anyone have a suggestion to get update managet to work?
[01:58] <alien2050> ok.... well... it's not gtkrc because I replaced it with one from the net and it's still black although many color changes are now visible
[01:58] <alien2050> has to be gtk3 then....
[01:58] <L3top> Just give me the XXXX:XXXX part Dacs
[01:58] <Dacs> L3top: 1286209
[01:59] <Dacs> ^^ paste.ubunut.com
[01:59] <L3top> missing a number
[01:59] <john_doe_jr> jrib: any ideas how we can get all this installed?
[01:59] <Dacs> 1286209
[01:59] <L3top> Dacs: you can also sudo apt-get install pastebinit        then <command> | pastebinit
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286209/
[02:00] <aditya_> how long till 12.10 release
[02:00] <bazhang> aditya_, when its ready
[02:00] <Dacs> L3top: that is what i am using the url is http;//paste.ubunut.com/1286209
[02:00] <L3top>  lol... sorry...
[02:00] <Dacs> L3top: no problem
[02:01] <L3top> Dacs: apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Installed
[02:02] <Dacs> L3top: i have the newest
[02:02] <L3top> pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> aditya_, I would get it now if you are going to download.
[02:03] <Dacs> L3top: actually return nothing
[02:03] <L3top> ok...
[02:03] <bazhang> need the | L3top
[02:04] <bazhang> and a command
[02:04] <L3top> if you are pastebinning a file you do not use a pipe... pastebinit will paste the content of the file bazhang
[02:04] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  I'm back, are you familiar with using dd to wipe all data from a drive
[02:04] <bazhang> L3top, you need a command
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Not really, I have not needed to.
[02:05] <Dacs> L3top: can you argu with him later :)
[02:05] <alien2050> how can I find out if I have gtk 3.0, 3.2, or 3.4 ?
[02:05] <Dacs> now focus with me :)  at L3
[02:05] <L3top> root@dcerouter:/tftpboot# pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <L3top> http://pastebin.com/4xHES48m
[02:05] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok , bc I have some drives that i'm looking to sell
[02:05] <pitviper296> anyone familiar with using dd to wipe a drive?
[02:06] <kbentley57> Yes
[02:06] <kbentley57> It's pretty easy
[02:06] <Dacs> pitviper296: i read it bfore in wikipedia
[02:06] <DaemonicApathy> Funny, L3top - when I try that, it just says it can't read it.
[02:06] <L3top> Dacs: lets try to create one for kicks. nvidia-xconfig
[02:06] <Dacs> L3top: any other suggestions
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, I have used dban myself
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> takes forever though
[02:07] <l0p3n> I have an old computer that can read cd's when logged on to Ubuntu boot not upon boot. However I can access the grub menu. Is it possible boot a cd from the grub menu?
[02:07] <john_doe_jr> jrib: found a command to downgrade a package sudo apt-get install gsoap = <version#.
[02:07] <Dacs> L3top: when i type startx it tells me that it is creating that file
[02:07] <L3top> DaemonicApathy: I am root... I am always root. That is probably why.
[02:07] <kbentley57> The basic syntax is "audi dx if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb"
[02:07] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i'm no longer sure that's the issue
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, grub2?
[02:07] <jrib> john_doe_jr: (and that only works if the package is available in one of your repositories)
[02:07] <kbentley57> Where adv is the drive you want to erase
[02:08] <kbentley57> Sdb
[02:08] <L3top> Dacs: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <john_doe_jr> jrib: I see
[02:08] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: hmm how can I find out ?
[02:08] <pitviper296> Dacs: I'll take a look at that, more or less looking for the best free data wipe possible
[02:08] <DaemonicApathy> L3top: We have something in common, then. But that's not important right now. I'll let you finish. :-)
[02:08] <L3top> Dacs: if the file exists you might need to sudo the earlier pastebinit... I am not sure... as I said... I am terrible at regular user commands...
[02:08] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  not familiar with dban, what exactly is it?
[02:08] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286203/ why does it copy stdsoap2.h ok but not stdsoap2.c?  It's copying these files from the originally distributed source, right?
[02:08] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[02:09] <L3top> Dacs: brb, need more ice
[02:09] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: It says (GRUB) 1.99
[02:09] <jrib> john_doe_jr: never mind, I take back what I said in the last minute
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[02:10] <john_doe_jr> jrib: no problem…once again I really appreciate the help
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, Dban is Dericks boot and Nuke
[02:11] <mcl0vin> L3top, this is Dacs
[02:11] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: wow many thanks. never thought this was possible :)
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, It is slow though.
[02:11] <jrib> john_doe_jr: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=344043 is probably related.  The gsoap package doesn't include this stdsoap2.c file
[02:11] <mcl0vin> L3top, i am in i used 'sudo statx and it let me in
[02:11] <john_doe_jr> jrib: you see I've tried to install the rpm's from the following site: http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/ifolder/ under 64bit using alien on Ubuntu but I keep getting log4net errors
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> l0p3n, Grub can do just about anything other then make my coffee in the morning. ;)
[02:11] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok I'll take a look, from what I just read on wiki how to: dd may take a very long time. But it should be worth it.
[02:12] <l0p3n> wilee-nilee: LOL =D
[02:12] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: bought a hd on ebay and recovered all sorts of files off of it with testdisk, going to wipe it so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands and re-sell
[02:13] <L3top> mcl0vin!! good deal... cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[02:14] <mcl0vin> L3top, /usr/sbin/lightdm
[02:15] <john_doe_jr> jrib: what do you think of attempting to install the rpms from the site: http://www.nofolder.com/documentation/installation/ifolder/ under 64bit using alien…is that just asking for trouble?
[02:15] <algnux> hello ,guys,i just got a crash ,when i wanted use xchat and pidgin on my kubuntu12.04
[02:16] <mcl0vin> L3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286224/ <---- my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:16] <jrib> john_doe_jr: you can try I guess; you won't lose much since we can't get these to build
[02:17] <john_doe_jr> jrib: they build using the method on that page …can you try it ?
[02:17] <algnux> the report said the reason was they used the libenhant.so.1
[02:17] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee:  whats the general topic channel?
[02:17] <L3top> mcl0vin: that is a terrible xorg.conf. But it seems the issue is lightdm is not starting... more than that.
[02:17] <adoniscik> how do you launch URL files by clicking?
[02:17] <adoniscik> like in windows
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296, There is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:18] <mcl0vin> L3top, what do you suggesting i should do
[02:19] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ok , curious how do i connect to new channel using the web irc?
[02:19] <L3top> well if you are only running one monitor, try dumping the xorg alltogether... sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/old.xorg.conf      and reboot... now that you know you can manually start x.
[02:19] <L3top> mcl0vin: ^
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> pitviper296 /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <jrib> john_doe_jr: let me try one last thing with this deb packaging
[02:20] <pitviper296> wilee-nilee: ty sir
[02:24] <L3top> mcl0vin: My hand is covered in blisters, and I cannot stand typing one handed... so I have to pull it out of ice water, and dry it, every time I type... until it burns so bad I have to dunk it again... I am going to have to bow out of support right now. Sorry.
[02:26] <mcl0vin> L3top, no worries mate i hope you feel better soon , and thank you for helping me
[02:26] <jrib> L3top: time to learn one-handed dvorak
[02:27] <L3top> Ahv got blistahs on me fingahs!
[02:27] <bfortified> TEST
[02:28] <cfhowlett> bfortified: we see you.
[02:28] <jrib> john_doe_jr: i got past gsoap anway... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286234/
[02:28] <cfhowlett> !test>bfortified
[02:28] <john_doe_jr> jrib: how did you do that?
[02:29] <jrib> john_doe_jr: I removed gsoap and just used the copy of gsoap that's in /tmp/build-area/simias-<IP_ADDRESS>00.0/dependencies/external/tools/gsoap/
[02:29] <bfortified> jeez
[02:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: did it build the libsimias*deb files in the build area?
[02:30] <jrib> john_doe_jr: the makefile actually uses $(GSOAP) so there's probably a ./configure parameter but I just copied it to /usr/include/ .  Anyway, now there's this new issue but I must go to bed
[02:30] <jrib> john_doe_jr: no, they won't get built if debian/rules throws an error
[02:30] <bfortified> just needed a refrence point to check persistence with smuxi
[02:30] <john_doe_jr> jrib: crap…dang you got to go to bed….we are almost there
[02:38] <john_doe_jr> jrib: good night..hey u did teach me a lot ..thanks!
[02:49] <KRomeleoN> I am gonna get 12.10 tattooed on my ass
[02:49] <KRomeleoN> im so excited
[02:50] <bjrohan> Can someone help me with a weird (to me anyway) java issue? Website says it can't detect Java while still allowing the Java app to work
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | KRomeleoN
[02:52] <bjrohan> Quiet in here too, everyone must be celebrating 12.10 official release
[02:52] <Jeremy3D> anyone having problems with ubuntu 12.04 and google chrome?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Jeremy3D
[02:52] <Theodoros> Hello, does anybody know how to disable the lowmemorykiller? (not the OOM killer)
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Theodoros, YOu were asking that on debian this is ubuntu support.
[02:53] <Theodoros> Well it's not something that specific to either?
[02:54] <Jeremy3D> sorry wilee-nilee . Ubuntu 12.04, Chrome. I have a hard time scrolling, posting in text boxes, etc.  When I write in text box nothing shows up. I can't even click and get the mouse cursor
[02:56] <whoever> Theodoros: ... ya uninstall it
[02:56] <sdollins> What time do you think 12.10 will hit final release?
[02:56] <bfortified> I have never had a problem with a chrome and Ubuntu 12.04
[02:57] <Theodoros> whoever: what's the packagename in ubuntu?
[02:57] <cfhowlett> sdollins: patience.
[02:57] <sdollins> cfhowlett: buttttttttt
[02:57] <talsamon> sdk
[02:57] <Jimster480> hey anyone around
[02:57] <sdollins> Patience and I do not like each other.
[02:57] <Jimster480> i need an expert
[02:57] <Jimster480> for a problem that is raging the hell out of me now
[02:57] <talsamon> sdollins,  it is released, i haved already installed
[02:57] <Flynsarmy> !ask | Jimster480
[02:57] <xz124> talsamon: he likely meant iso images
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> sdollins, im excited for .10 too
[02:58] <bfortified> I am an EXPERT
[02:58] <talsamon> ok
[02:58] <cfhowlett> sdollins: it's coming. It's not an iphone.  Wait.
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> im waiting for Gnomebuntu
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> since unity is so poor
[02:58] <KRomeleoN> the amazon.com thing scares me
[02:59] <Jimster480> I have an Ubuntu 10.10 Install (well its been partially upgraded a bunch of times) I installed a new 3.6.2 kernel for it today that I built myself. Now when i was installing the new fglrx i did a auto-deconfigure on the apt-get and it uninstalled all dependencies in the whole system.
[02:59] <sdollins> cfhowlett: I need a new iPhone too. :(
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> KRomeleoN: sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lens or something isn't ti?
[02:59] <sdollins> You can just disable it now.
[02:59] <Jimster480> What do i Do now? The ubuntu-desktop is uninstalled as well as xorg completely uninstalled and all its dependencies.
[02:59] <KRomeleoN> Flynsarmy, it should be opt in not opt out
[02:59] <Flynsarmy> sdollins: that's not great. they provide an all or nothing switch. i may not want shopping btu do like music/movie news for instance
[03:00] <Flynsarmy> KRomeleoN: agreed
[03:00] <bfortified> OHHHHHH an expert with Ubuntu! sorry total nooob here!
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> im a huuuuge gnome fan tho
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> i always install ubuntu and then gnome. i cant wait for Gnomebuntu
[03:00] <Jimster480> KRomeleoN me too
[03:00] <xangua> !ot | KRomeleoN Jimster480
[03:00] <whoever> Theodoros: tried this and nothing came up
[03:00] <Jimster480> but the thing is that Gnome3 is a complete piece of trash
[03:00] <Jimster480> so
[03:00] <whoever> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lowmemorykiller&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> i love gnome 3!
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !ot|Jimster480:
[03:00] <Jimster480> im trying to keep my old Gnome 2 setup
[03:00] <KRomeleoN> im running 3.6 its adream
[03:00] <Jimster480> its just bad in literally every way
[03:00] <xangua> Jimster480: the thing is you are usin a no loger supported ubuntu version
[03:01] <noiro> hey now, I love gnome3
[03:01] <zf> does ubuntu support cinnamon?
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480,  have you tried mate
[03:01] <Jimster480> yea mate is a flaming POS
[03:01] <Jimster480> itsl ike half updated
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> haha
[03:01] <Jimster480> half the things work
[03:01] <KRomeleoN> idk, i love gnome 3
[03:01] <Jimster480> none of the dependencies line up right
[03:01] <noiro> They could have made customizing it a bit more user-friendly, but it's freaking awesome. And mine works fine
[03:01] <Jimster480> id rather cut myself than use gnome 3
[03:02] <Jimster480> its slow as hell, the window management is an example of how to not manage windows, the apps themselves are bad, the window bars are non interactive, it looks ugly as hell
[03:02] <Jimster480> idk
[03:02] <noiro> I just think KDE looks and 'feels' so hollow.
[03:02] <Jimster480> i cant thing of one good thing
[03:02] <Jimster480> and since i always hated KDE and still doe
[03:02] <Jimster480> i cant move to that
[03:02] <zf> I don't want to be hyperbolic but gnome 3 is literally worse than hitler
[03:02] <FloodBot1> Jimster480: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <KRomeleoN> kde feels like windows xp copied by the chinese
[03:02] <Jimster480> yea it does because KDE is terrible also
[03:02] <noiro> lol. Jim, just move to Openbox
[03:02] <Jimster480> the only desktop i ever liked was Gnome2
[03:02] <Jimster480> lol openbox is like
[03:02] <zf> actually @Jimster480 I Gnome3 isn't slow compared to Gnome2
[03:02] <zf> it just sucks more
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, xfce is pretty sweet
[03:03] <cfhowlett> Can we please move personal opinions to #ubuntu_offtopic and maintain this channel for actual support?  Thank you.
[03:03] <Jimster480> for kids running 386
[03:03] <Jeremy3D> where should i download chrome for ubuntu 12.04. from the software center or from googles website?
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, u need the .dev
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> deb
[03:03] <noiro> I dunno....Crunchbang did Openbox pretty well. ;)
[03:03] <Jimster480> well i do need support i want to know how i can install the dependencies again
[03:03] <KRomeleoN> from google
[03:03] <xangua> Jeremy3D: chromium is in the software center
[03:03] <xz124> jeremy3d: software if you want chromium, google if you want chrome
[03:03] <Jimster480> is there any way to install them again
[03:03] <Jimster480> despite them being old
[03:03] <xz124> chromium is the open source version of chrome, missing a few features that nobody uses
[03:04] <bfortified> My grandpa loved his 55 chevy doesnt mean he never bought a car besides that one
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> Chrome is kinda shitty to use on linux since its not open source
[03:04] <xz124> use chromium then
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> Firefox is still where its at
[03:04] <xangua> !language | KRomeleoN
[03:04] <Jimster480> idk i mean
[03:04] <Jeremy3D> whats the dev KRomeleoN ?
[03:04] <KRomeleoN> im kinda sad that there isnt more celebration in this chan on the eve of a major release
[03:04] <Jimster480> i like what i had
[03:05] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, .deb
[03:05] <xz124> jeremy3d: .deb, not dev
[03:05] <Jimster480> well because 12.10 is not worth downloading
[03:05] <somsip> KRomeleoN: it's a supoprt channel. Try off-topic?
[03:05] <Jimster480> beause it uses unity
[03:05] <Jeremy3D> which is better, chromium or chrome? i been using chrome but having text box problems, scrolling problems, etc
[03:05] <Jimster480> which is another example of how to not do a desktop interface
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !loco>kRomeleoN
[03:05] <bfortified> I feel bad for using Chrome but I still use Chrome I like it so much better. There is always Chromium
[03:05] <Jimster480> if anyone really knows how to help me with my dependencies
[03:05] <Jimster480> please pm me
[03:05] <Jimster480> so i can get this fixed
[03:06] <Jimster480> I am a software developer and debugging is not a issue for me
[03:06] <Jimster480> i just need to get my packages resinstalled
[03:06] <xz124> !enter | Jimster480
[03:06] <Jimster480> ...
[03:06] <Jeremy3D> anyone else have a prerence, chrome or chromium for ubuntu 12.04?
[03:07] <somsip> !poll | Jeremy3D
[03:07] <xz124> jeremy3D: it honestly doesn't matter much.
[03:07] <Jimster480> ive only ever used chromium on desktops
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> i like chrome better than chromium but chromium is open so Chromium is my preference
[03:07] <Jimster480> idk that there was a chrome for linux now
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> Chrome is the only way to get new versions of adobe flash on linux
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> yea Jimster480 but i dont know if its chrome or ubuntu i'm having trouble with
[03:07] <KRomeleoN> if u need flash
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> everything else seems to act fine. just chrome i have weird issues
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> KRomeleoN, Chromium doesnt support flash?
[03:08] <bfortified> Chromium doesnt support anything proprietary right?
[03:08] <KRomeleoN> it supports flash
[03:08] <noiro> Hey guys, one thing that bugs me about Ubuntu is, is there an addon I can include with gnome or something so when I click the middle mouse button, the auto scroll wheel shows up for quickly going to the top of pages?
[03:08] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy what's your sisue with chrome?
[03:08] <KRomeleoN> but only 11.2
[03:09] <KRomeleoN> and thats it
[03:09] <Jimster480> can someone please help me get my xserver reinstalled?
[03:09] <KRomeleoN> if u need adobe flash greater than 11.2, u need Google Chrome
[03:09] <Flynsarmy> err, that was for Jeremy3D
[03:10] <KRomeleoN> i had issues with chrome where i would enter a url and nothign woukd gappen
[03:10] <KRomeleoN> happen
[03:10] <bfortified> isnt that just sudo apt-get install xorg?
[03:10] <Jimster480> no lol
[03:10] <Jeremy3D> Flynsarmy, Weird issues. Sometimes can't click in a text box, dont get cursor in text box, weird scrolling issues where only parts of the page scroll, problems with videos on youtube someitmes. etc
[03:10] <Jimster480> because all dependencies are broken now. Thats the whole reason why i am here.
[03:10] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: the YT issue is that it goes at half or twice speed?
[03:11] <Jeremy3D> half and jumps around. but i'm more worried about not being able to type in text boxes
[03:11] <bfortified> maybe its time to update? 10.10 really? why not 10.04 atleast?
[03:11] <BETurner> Chrome on Linux usually has that problem primarily on HTML5 video pages.
[03:11] <Jeremy3D> also when playing videos sometimes the audio will skip 3 or 4 times in a row
[03:12] <Jeremy3D> BETurner, is chromium a better alternative for this case then?
[03:12] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: it's a known issue. there's a few fixes mentioned here http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=116435 the one that worked for me was disabling the built in flash and usingteh system one by goign to about:flags
[03:12] <Jimster480> 10.04 was broken
[03:12] <Jimster480> thast why i dont use it. Because the major issue with hibernation made it unusable if you had a laptop. As there was no way to sleep or hibernate
[03:12] <obtrusivemouse> need help, saying a required package was not found during a make installation but it doesnt say what the package is
[03:13] <Jimster480> and if i go to 11.04 or anything else
[03:13] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, its time to grow up to gnome 3
[03:13] <bjrohan> ffmpeg won't install and I can trace it back to it not being able to get  libx264-120. In the package manager it is not available, however  libx264-123 is, which I have installed. How do I install  libx264-120
[03:13] <Flynsarmy> Jeremy3D: not sure on your other issues. i have noticed that the mouse can disappear in VLC when running synergy...only thing i can think of that's similar
[03:13] <bfortified> yea yea unity
[03:13] <Jimster480> then im just fkd because im stuck with Either unity which is not usable or Gnome 3 which is not usable.
[03:13] <KRomeleoN> Jimster480, have you tried xfce?
[03:13] <Jimster480> so i might as well just delete the linux partition and just use my Win 7 exclusively
[03:13] <bfortified> i love unity so...
[03:13] <bfortified> lol
[03:13] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: you can disable most of unity. that's what i've done.   Enable universe repos and you should be able to install
[03:14] <Jeremy3D> interesting read Flynsarmy
[03:14] <xangua> !eol | Jimster480 in the upgrade link, check the Requirements to change your repository to old-releases.ubuntu.com and please remember this channel is only for ubuntu supported versions
[03:14] <Jimster480> Windows 7 is better than any desktop linux lewl, but I like linux because its faster and gives me better battery life on the go, so I tinker with it.
[03:15] <obtrusivemouse> hello ?
[03:15] <KRomeleoN> hello
[03:15] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: we see you
[03:15] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, no one respond to me
[03:15] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: what's your ubuntu question?
[03:15] <Jimster480> Mac Mini LOL
[03:16] <l0ui625> ubuntu 12.10 NOW! plzz
[03:16] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: wait until you try to build a HTPC that plugs into your amp and then to tv :( there is no perfect oS. linux = no BD and often not great codec support, XP = slow boot, vista is super sluggish, 7 and up have a screen res issue when primary monitor is turned off - they dont always fix when you turn the TV on resulting in a black screen
[03:16] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, it was about package not found in installation, now my question is, i need packages from intrepid release (im trying to install awesome 3)
[03:17] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: wait 1
[03:17] <xangua> obtrusivemouse: you are using a no longer supported ubuntu version, you need to upgrade to a supported one
[03:18] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, i am using 12.04, i need reps from a non supported ubuntu version
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !eol|obtrusivemouse: Intrepid is End of Life
[03:18] <bjrohan> How do I enable universe repos?
[03:18] <bjrohan> cfhowlett, how do I enable universe repos
[03:18] <xz124> !repos | bjrohan
[03:19] <bjrohan> ok
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !cookie|xz124:
[03:19] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, not sure if anyone understands. I'm following instructions from this site: awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/awesome-3-ubuntu-git now if you go down to step 5-7 , you see i need intrepid packages
[03:19] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: here's the link to the old iso  old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/
[03:19] <xangua> bjrohan: software center > edit > sources > check the first and second tab
[03:20] <obtrusivemouse> cfhowlett, how is that going to help? do i install it and take the dependencies manually?
[03:20] <Flynsarmy> anyone happen to know if you're able to replace the unity run menu with the older run menu?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: as it's end of life, I believe you'll have to do everything manually
[03:20] <Jimster480> Windows 7 is great for a HTPC i have a HTPC with 7 on it in my living room lol
[03:20] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: you are installing awesome wm from git?
[03:21] <Ameen> awaits ubuntu 12.10
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Jimster480: stop trolling
[03:21] <xangua> awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/awesome-3-ubuntu-git < "There is currently no text in this page" obtrusivemouse also awesome is on precice repos
[03:21] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, yes i'm trying to, the installation is quite... broken
[03:21] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: as xangua has just said, awesome is in the repos. If you insist from installing from git, expect it to be more tricky
[03:21] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, you sure? so i just type in awesome and it'll download? wait trying it out.
[03:21] <Flynsarmy> Jimster480: it's great other htan the screen issue. it resizes res when the primary monitor is turned off. when you turn the tv back on it can occasionally not fix itself so you get no picture. it doesn't happen on all TVs but was happening on my samsung. it sucked hard. otherwise it was a brilliant HTPC OS
[03:22] <Ameen> when ubuntu 12.10 can be downloaded?
[03:22] <xangua> !info awesome | obtrusivemouse
[03:22] <cfhowlett> obtrusivemouse: seriously urge you to consider upgrading to the latest LTS release 12.04
[03:22] <xangua> !isitout | Ameen
[03:22] <obtrusivemouse> xangua, great i'm an idiot.
[03:22] <Flynsarmy> Ameen: you might be looking for the #ubuntu-release-party channel
[03:23] <Ameen> I can not download it
[03:23] <Jimster480> im not trolling lol, I just want my damn Gnome 2 old distro to be fixed :/
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Ameen: it is NOT out yet.
[03:23] <somsip> Ameen: It is not out yet. Wait, then come back here and type '!isitout'
[03:23] <obtrusivemouse> flynsarmy, are you meaning something other that logging out and changing wm's?
[03:24] <Flynsarmy> obtrusivemouse: huh? what're you referring to?
[03:24] <obtrusivemouse> flynsarmy, i thought that's what you meant when you mean running an older menu
[03:25] <anders_> Hey, I need some help with an internet problem. My stationary computer is freshly installed with Ubuntu 12.04, and uses a Netgear N300 WNA3100 wireless USB to connect to the internet, but I'm missing drivers. I have internet on my laptop, but don't know how to share the internet. No guides on the internet have helped....
[03:25] <xz124> !wifi|anders_
[03:25] <Flynsarmy> obtrusivemouse: oh the run menu? the old run menu was just a standard window that you coudl use tab to autocomplete. the new unity run menu doesn't support autocomplete making it hard to get to folders quickly
[03:25] <Flynsarmy> the new run menu is relatively useless TBH. until they fix autocomplete at least
[03:25] <anders_> thanks. :)
[03:26] <Ubuntuoooga> does anyone know what time 12.10 will be released?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> !isitout|Ubuntuoooga:
[03:26] <somsip> !isiout | Ubuntuoooga
[03:27] <bfortified> I use synapse as my run menu and it works great and auto completes
[03:27]  * Ubuntuoooga silently heads over to the other channel
[03:27]  * Flynsarmy doesn't think 'silently' means what you think it means...
[03:27] <alien2050> ne1 knows how to change the unity top bar (dash?) TEXT color ?
[03:28] <Flynsarmy> gnome-tweak-tool perhaps?
[03:28] <alien2050> nah.... not there... myunity can change color but only bg
[03:29] <alien2050> gnome-tweak-tool can't do color... yet
[03:29] <Flynsarmy> Unsettings has quite a few settings but dont see colour there either
[03:30] <alien2050> maybe a css file... but I can't see which
[03:30] <tedski> I'm trying to get 12.04 ready for production to migrate our systems off lucid... we use nis netgroups in ldap and i'm noticing a bug in libpam-modules (pam_access.so specifically) 1.1.3-7ubuntu3.  I read that this is fixed in > 1.1.3 but I notice quetzal still has 1.1.3.  I tried quetzal's build anyway, but to no avail.  If i bring in pam_access.so from a 1.1.1 machine (lucid has 1.1.1), it works fine.  What is my best course of action at this point?
[03:30] <tedski> should I build my own package using pam 1.1.5?
[03:30] <tedski> should I roll all systems back to lucid's working version of libpam-modules?
[03:31] <Mcl0vin> ok so now i am able to load my desktop normal except ... i am stuck in login screen loop
[03:31] <tedski> or is there a more sane way to get an updated version of libpam-modules?
[03:31] <Mcl0vin> any ideas guys
[03:32] <alien2050> Mcl0vin: missed the first part of your problem, but usually when in a login loop there is a permissions problem on the homedir of the user youre trying to login with
[03:32] <McDickChunk> ^very true, try loggin in as root
[03:32] <alien2050> I usually do chown -R userid /home/userid
[03:33] <Mcl0vin> alien2050, but i am able to login as guest fine. so that in a sense confirm it is an issue with permissions you thing ?
[03:33] <McDickChunk> Yep
[03:33] <tedski> Mcl0vin: i would think so
[03:34] <tedski> Mcl0vin: login as guest and do ls -ld /home
[03:34] <alien2050> yeah I think so guest is not a reference for the problem
[03:34] <bfortified> sure caint hurt to chown it
[03:34] <tedski> Mcl0vin: see if /home/userid is owned by userid
[03:34] <tedski> and yeah, as bfortified noted... it won't hurt one bit to chown it anyway
[03:34] <alien2050> you can always hit ctrl-alt-f1 and login as root there
[03:34] <alien2050> no need to open a session I'd say
[03:35] <Mcl0vin> tedski, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep  1 11:09 /home
[03:35] <Mcl0vin> this is guest
[03:35] <alien2050> not /home, check /home/userid
[03:35] <tedski> err, sorry, yeah
[03:35] <tedski> what alien2050 said
[03:35] <alien2050> do a ls -al /home/"youruseridhere"
[03:36] <tucemiux> anyone here has experience installing ubuntu on a win7 ultrabook?  The ultrabook comes with 4 primary partitions so I need to figure out which partitions I can safely delete
[03:36] <D4rkH4nd> Hello, who was it that told me to do a memtest86 ???
[03:37] <KRomeleoN> 30 minutes till 12.10
[03:37] <somsip> KRomeleoN: why do you say that?
[03:37] <bfortified> tucemiux: all of them ;)
[03:37] <D4rkH4nd> KRomeleoN: are you sure ?
[03:37] <KRomeleoN> 10/18 is in 30 min
[03:37] <xangua> !isitout | KRomeleoN D4rkH4nd
[03:37] <Mcl0vin> tedski, yes userid is owned by userid
[03:38] <tedski> Mcl0vin: interesting
[03:38] <somsip> KRomeleoN: it's released when it's ready, it takes time to propagate. Chill
[03:38] <bfortified> tucemiux: are you installing ubunut now?
[03:38] <McDickChunk> KRomeleoN: it's like a wizard, never early, never late, it comes precisely when it means to
[03:39] <Mcl0vin> tedski, any suggestion on how to fix it
[03:39] <D4rkH4nd> So i did a memtest86  as i was told. No errors. But my desktop still crashes in this order. compiz/cairo/gnome
[03:39] <tucemiux> bfortified, if i was then i wouldnt be asking here o.O
[03:39] <tucemiux> bfortified, im trying to set up a dual boot here o.O
[03:40] <urgodfather> hello room, i have a slightly off topic question. does anyone have a copy of the 4.21 FW for a PS3? i would prefer not to go to 4.25 b/c i intend to put ubuntu on it
[03:40] <bfortified> tucemiux: figured as much. sarcasim wont get you far when asking for help
[03:40] <somsip> urgodfather: you're right - offtopic. Elsewhere please.
[03:40] <Jimster480> hey guys do you know if i use my 10.10 CD can i use it as a repo to reinstall all my missing components?
[03:40] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: have you does a hdd test?
[03:40] <D4rkH4nd> yep
[03:41] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: no swolen caps?
[03:41] <D4rkH4nd> nope
[03:41] <tedski> Mcl0vin: humor us and do: chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername
[03:41] <D4rkH4nd> im gonna reinstall compiz with out mangr. I read that the mangr will crash gnome3 idk thou
[03:41] <tedski> Mcl0vin: just to make sure that's not the issue
[03:41] <dtx> Hello everyone, I have installed the arm build tools and now for some reason my amd64 ubuntu precise box keeps referring to packages ending with linaro on the end of them. Is there a way to force reinstallation of ubuntu-desktop (it was removed after I added the packages and it keeps failing installation because it references the linaro packages for everything)
[03:41] <alien2050> Mcl0vin: did you try the command I sent
[03:41] <urgodfather> somsip: im aware... but gotta try my luck
[03:42] <xangua> Jimster480: i already told you you need to use old.releases.ubuntu as the repository and the detailes instrucciones are in the Upgrade EOL web, in the Requirement section
[03:42] <dwlocks> I noticed something odd on my 11.04 install about dpkg versions: dpkg --version: 1.15.8 while dpkg -l dpkg: 1.16.0
[03:42] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: i have mgr on mine no problems
[03:42] <dwlocks> any clue as to why that might be?
[03:42] <tucemiux> bfortified, answera question with a question doesnt help much unless you dont understand the problem in which case I doubt you would help finding a solution
[03:43] <D4rkH4nd> well it said it happends with intell gpu. do have ?
[03:43] <bfortified> tucemiux: im happy to help join #tucemiux-help
[03:44] <urgodfather> D4rkH4nd: mine is an intel gma (netbook)
[03:44] <dwlocks> if anyone here has 11.04 installed, I'd appreciate if they could check the output of dpkg --version vs dpkg -l dpkg
[03:44] <dwlocks> my versions don't match!
[03:44] <D4rkH4nd> so it dont have intell HD then ?
[03:45] <dtx> Anybody familiar with my issue?
[03:45] <urgodfather> dtx: open a terminal and try sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:45] <Mcl0vin> tedski, what next
[03:45] <tedski> Mcl0vin: still looping?
[03:46] <dwlocks> dtx: what's linaro?
[03:46] <dtx> it removed nothing
[03:46] <dtx> urgodfather: it removed nothing
[03:46] <Mcl0vin> tedski, i will have to reboot
[03:46] <dtx> dwlocks: I was wondering that as well
[03:46]  * dwlocks googles linaro
[03:46] <dtx> dwlocks: I believe it has to do with some broken ti-imap
[03:46] <tedski> Mcl0vin: you shouldn't have to... you should be able to just log out and log back in
[03:47] <dtx> dwlocks: ti-omap package repos which I thought were for building for the platform
[03:47] <dtx> It is listed in the Software Center but then breaks when you try to install it
[03:47] <dwlocks> hmm.  Precise, is that 12.04?
[03:47] <dtx> indeed
[03:47] <urgodfather> dtx do yo have an arm chip?
[03:48] <dtx> urgodfather: I am running on an amd64 machine right now, but I was trying to get arm cross-compile for this panda board I have which does have arm
[03:48] <urgodfather> oic
[03:48] <dtx> I was trying to get tools for compiling for arm on my amd64 that is
[03:48] <dwlocks> dtx, I don't think the multi-arch stuff is quite complete enough to handle cross-compiles without chroots yet.
[03:48] <trimeta> I run a home server, which gives me the landscape-based system info whenever I log in. I like this, but I'd like to configure exactly what landscape shows, rather than just seeing the default info. Is there a way to find a sample /etc/landscape/client.conf (or even a landscape-sysinfo man page) without installing the full landscape-client package which doesn't make any sense with a single-server setup? (E.g., I'm not using Ubu
[03:49] <urgodfather> dtx for arm i would recommend archlinux
[03:49] <dtx> dwlocks: is there anyway I can force it to reinstall the amd64 ubuntu-desktop without referencing the other stuff?
[03:49] <dwlocks> I'm fighting with multi-arch in a package I'm building atm  :-(
[03:49] <bfortified> panda huh? very jealous those look fun
[03:50] <brightsparks> I can't upgrade beyond flash 10.3? I downloaded and installed 11.3 but the system just refuses to work with so went back to 10.3. ?
[03:50] <dtx> urgodfather: I just ended up running Ubuntu and compiling on the panda itself. I just want to rid myself of whatever is b0rking my system atm.
[03:50] <dwlocks> dtx: what does dpkg --print-architectures say?
[03:50] <dtx> bfortified: pandas are pretty fun, especially with stepper motors hooked up to it. :P
[03:50] <dtx> amd64
[03:51] <urgodfather> dtx didnt know ubuntu was (officialy) available for arm, yet
[03:51] <dwlocks> rly.  is the linaro reference look like something like  "libc6:linaro"
[03:51] <bfortified> dtx: I want one for a automotive pc built in wi-fi and bt right?
[03:51] <dtx> urgodfather: It's not officially supported. It's community project but it is on the download page for 12.04.1
[03:52] <dtx> dwlocks:  compiz-plugins-default : Depends: libdecoration0 (= 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1.4) but 1:0.9.8+bzr3287-0linaro3 is to be installed
[03:52] <dtx> that's an example
[03:52] <urgodfather> dtx thanks for the tip
[03:52] <dwlocks> dtx: I would uninstall the cross-building tools first.
[03:52] <dtx> bfortified: bt doesn't work so far, wifi works
[03:52] <dwlocks> yeah, that's the the multi-arch stuff giving you hell.
[03:53] <dtx> is there a way to reset arch
[03:53] <dtx> force arch?
[03:53] <bfortified> dtx: no bt? no firmware support?
[03:53] <dwlocks> --force-arch forces dpkg to install what it thinks is a wrong arch.
[03:54] <dtx> bfortified: I just haven't pursued the support. It might be out there somehow.
[03:54] <dwlocks> there's a standard "fix my broken requirements" flag.
[03:54]  * dwlocks looks for it.
[03:55] <dtx> dwlocks: I did apt-get -f apt-get -m... it just keeps wanting to refer to those packages
[03:55] <bfortified> dtx: glad for the heads up  was pretty close to buying but i will have to to look into bt support. bt is a must for my project
[03:56] <Jimster480> okay you wizards its time for another question
[03:56] <PeoplesAdvocate> Is there a new Ubuntu out tomorrow? I have been out of the loop since school started!
[03:56] <dtx> bfortified: it would be nice for mine but not necessary.
[03:56] <xangua> !isitout | PeoplesAdvocate
[03:56] <Jimster480> i have the 10.10 CD mounted, Now i want to use the CD as a repository so that i can rebuild my old dependencies that it uninstalled. How do I do this?
[03:56] <bfortified> dtx: do you have a specific goal in mind or just hacking on it for now?
[03:57] <anders_> I've been to the site you guys advice me to, but no luck. Do you know of any secure way to share my wireless connection from my laptop to my stationary using cable?
[03:57] <dtx> bfortified: art project involving a magnet, sand, two steppers and a chrome ball
[03:57] <cbeust> Jimster480: tu use it as a repository, use apt-cdrom, i'm not sure I understand what you are saying about rebuilding old dependencies"
[03:58] <xangua> Jimster480: i have already told you what to do to have working repositories, so please stop asking for support for a no longer supported version
[03:58] <dwlocks> dtx: have you tried "apt-get install -f"?  Honestly, I'd try dpkg -P <cross-building-tools> first.  whatever the crossbuild tools were.
[03:58] <ssshvb> hey I installed ubuntu on my hp workstation without problems (from CD)  but i can not boot it.  the system does not show an ubuntu boot menu .  I have Win7 on the station as well.  as a result i can load only win7 and i can not get access to ubuntu
[03:58] <bfortified> dtx: art project or bedroom toy :0
[03:58] <trigger_kill> If I install 12.04 now, and then upgrade when given the chance, will there be any diffrences to if i simply installed 12.10 directly?
[03:58] <dtx> dwlocks: I think it's actually this TI OMAP specific crap in the repo. It was broken so I tried to fix the line, and probably f#$%ed everything.
[03:59] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: Do you have more than one hard drive, and do you know of your computer uses UEFI?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: of course.  Do you really NEED 12.10?
[03:59] <dwlocks> dtx: gonna make a japanese garden with a magic rolling ball bearing?  nifty.
[03:59] <dtx> bfortified: no bedroom toy should involve sand ;)
[03:59] <trigger_kill> No, but my current install is messed up
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: 12.04 is Long Term Support good for 5 years.
[03:59] <Jeremy3D> whoever was helping with my chrome issue earlier, I downloaded Chromium and installed Flash and everything seems to be working better for now. Thanks for the help!
[03:59] <dwlocks> dtx: "crap in the repo"?  you mean sources.list?
[03:59] <bfortified> dtx: valid
[03:59] <dtx> dwlocks: not too far off
[03:59] <dtx> yeah
[03:59] <anders_> I've been to the site you guys advice me to, but no luck. Do you know of any secure way to share my wireless connection from my laptop to my stationary using cable?
[03:59] <KRomeleoN> Jeremy3D, good to hear
[03:59] <cfhowlett> trigger_kill: suggestion install 12.04. Stick with LTS only releases.  Next LTS will be 14.04
[03:59] <dtx> It added a couple bad source lines
[04:00] <dtx> I can tell you the package
[04:00] <dtx> hold on
[04:00] <Jeremy3D> thanks KRomeleoN
[04:00] <dwlocks> dtx: ahh...  I've never needed to tease out what packages come from what repo.
[04:00] <ssshvb> Jordan_U do not know what is uefi
[04:01] <dwlocks> dtx: there's probably a log of what got installed.  uninstall and remove the TI-OMAP repo package last.
[04:01] <dwlocks> *then do apt-get install -f
[04:01] <dtx> I don't think I got anything actually from it
[04:01] <Nautilus> The other day I ran "sudo apt-get install libcompass-ruby" ... it seemed to go ok and installed many dependencies.  What I'd like to do is a nice uninstall that uninstalls the dependencies too.  What's a good way of doing it ... I don't want to make a mess by experimenting.
[04:02] <trimeta> If the dependencies are only there because apt-get installed them, apt-get remove should remove them, IIRC.
[04:02] <trigger_kill> wouldn't you need to use apt-get autoremove?
[04:02] <trimeta> That is, apt-get remove libcompass-ruby will also remove its dependencies, if nothing else needs them.
[04:02] <Nautilus> that's my understanding but am hoping to confirm
[04:02] <dwlocks> dtx: I guess then just comment out the TI-OMAP sources in /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update, and try apt-get install -f
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: It's a new kind of boot firmware (replacing the BIOS interface). If you boot from a LiveCD, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces I can tell you what type of firmware you have, and hopefully how to get Ubuntu booting.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ssshvb
[04:02] <cbeust> Nautilus: apt-get remove libcompass-ruby ; apt-get autoremove
[04:03] <dwlocks> dtx: <disclaimer>but I'm really not a super duper expert. </disclaimer>
[04:03] <dtx> Yeah that's what I kinda tried
[04:03] <Nautilus> cbeust: 'remove', not 'uninstall'?
[04:03] <cbeust> Nautilus: yes
[04:03] <cbeust> Nautilus: (man apt-get)
[04:03] <Nautilus> what does the autoremove do?
[04:03] <ssshvb> i booted right now from livecd
[04:03] <dtx> That package should be removed
[04:03] <trigger_kill> automaticly removes unused dependicies, i think
[04:04] <dwlocks> dtx: did you apt-get update?
[04:04] <cbeust> Nautilus: removes packages which were installed only to satisfy dependencies which are no longer needed
[04:04] <Nautilus> thanks, lemme give them a go
[04:05] <dwlocks> Nautilus: I always use apt-get -s when I'm not sure what's going to happen...
[04:05] <dtx> dwlocks: Yep
[04:05] <ssshvb> thanks let me have a look
[04:05] <dtx> It looks like it pulls them from here
[04:05] <dtx> http://ppa.launchpad.net/tiomap-dev/release/ubuntu/dists/precise/
[04:05] <Nautilus> dwlocks: ah, gotcha
[04:05] <cbeust> Nautilus: when you apt-get install a b c and that results in Q W E in also being install, apt marks a,b,c as being "manually installed" and Q,W,E as being "automatically installed".  autoremove asks to remove any packages which are marked as auto which aren't depended on by installed packages marked as manual to be removed
[04:05] <trimeta> Hmm, does aptitude remove add an autoremove at the end? I always use aptitude, rather than apt-get, so that may be why I've seen it remove dependencies in one step.
[04:06] <dwlocks> dtx: if sources.list has those repos commented out, then the packages should not be listed as available
[04:06] <dtx> dwlocks: That's what's baffling me
[04:06] <dtx> hold on a sec
[04:06] <dwlocks> dtx: did you try apt-get install -f?  you've already done everything I'd do.
[04:06] <xangua> !aptitude | trimeta
[04:07] <Nautilus> removing didn't take out the dependencies but autoremove did
[04:07] <dtx> dwlocks: yep
[04:07] <trimeta> xangua: I mean, does aptitude remove have a different behavior from regular apt-get remove? I'm not actually having any issues regarding this, I'm just curious.
[04:07] <dtx> Is there a way I can say install ubuntu-desktop assuming nothing is downloaded?
[04:08] <dwlocks> ok... you need to find whatever package is trying to pull in the *-linaro package.
[04:08] <cbeust> trimeta: it also does autoremove
[04:08] <anders_> In pure desperation I deleted Ubuntu and trying over again with Windows Installer, but is there anyway I can use the Windows driver to run the Wireless USB stick in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <dtx> The problem is it is a linaro package
[04:08] <dtx> I'm just going to keep uninstalling until it works and hope my system keeps working
[04:09] <dtx> lol
[04:09] <dwlocks> dtx: that's ok.  dpkg -P every *linaro package.
[04:09] <dtx> omg
[04:09] <dtx> dwlocks: I removed a ton already
[04:09] <dtx> I was just one package away
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> anders_, wireless sticks are cheap, there is a wiki that lists ones that work, buy one that works.
[04:10] <trimeta> cbeust: Ah, that's what I was wondering. I knew there was a reason I got into the habit of using aptitude rather than apt-get. (I'm on an amd64 system, so unless multilib runs into the same problems as multi-arch, which I do not believe is the case, I don't have to worry about the aforementioned aptitude bug.)
[04:10] <dtx> It looks like it will install now
[04:10] <dtx> lol
[04:10] <xangua> anders_ if there are no native drivers for that dongle you could try ndiswrapper to load the windows driver (.inf file, the xp driver version is advised)
[04:10] <dtx> I'm gonna file a bug on the TI IMAP package saying it's a POS and they need to kill it with fire
[04:10] <anders_> Ok, will try that xangua
[04:10] <dtx> OMAP*
[04:10] <dwlocks> dtx:  well there you go!
[04:11] <cbeust> trimeta: i dunno.  I haven't found the need for multi-arch stuff yet
[04:11] <obtrusivemouse> having trouble connecting to wifi on command line, what's the wireless app?
[04:11] <trimeta> I once did some cross-compiling to get software running on an Arduino, but I used my Gentoo laptop for that, not my Ubuntu server.
[04:12] <ssshvb> ive got the result of bootinfoscript
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> ssshvb, Pastebin the text.
[04:12] <dtx> How do I reinstall the 386 pkgs?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[04:13] <obtrusivemouse> also http://askubuntu.com/questions/138472/how-do-i-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-network-using-the-command-line can anyone explain the textbox in answer 1? i tried it but it gives me unknown global field and invalid config
[04:14] <ssshvb> have no idea how to do it
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ssshvb
[04:15] <ssshvb> thanks
[04:15] <Pholey> hey a quick question, dont know if anybody here runs linux mint
[04:15] <Jimster480> xangua: thanks i figured out how to add it to my system. hopefully this will fix it
[04:15] <ssshvb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286306/
[04:16] <xangua> !mint | Pholey they do there
[04:16] <Pholey> gahh
[04:16] <Pholey> well do any of you have any idea on how to get a notification to come up when your battery is low?
[04:18] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried draining the battery?
[04:18] <jam__> hey everybody. does boot repair recomended button delete ubuntu?
[04:19] <Pholey> cbeust yes, i have lost my work a couple of times due to sudden shut offs.
[04:19] <jam__> I needed to reinstall my windows 7 but I still need my dual boot
[04:19] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried ubuntu?
[04:19] <cbeust> Pholey: have you tried file-> save?
[04:19] <dwlocks> dtx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchCross  oy.  good luck!
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> jam__, The recommended button loads the mbr with the grub bootloader.
[04:20] <Jimster480> xangua: i love you
[04:20] <Pholey> cbeust very funny, honestly. but when im grinding on a paper, i dont think about anything but words lol
[04:21] <jam__> so what does it mean wilee? I have grub????!! so why i can not see that purple page to choose windows or ubuntu
[04:21] <cbeust> is "grinding on a paper" a sexual thing?  I don't know what this means
[04:21] <GoodHeartedGuy> hi.. any one knows the release time of the ubuntu 12.10?
[04:21] <GoodHeartedGuy> is it 4 pm UK time?
[04:21] <xangua> !isitout | GoodHeartedGuy
[04:22] <Jordan_U> ssshvb: OK. It looks like your computer is configured to boot via BIOS, but also has UEFI. Ubuntu installed a UEFI bootloader (since your machine booted the CD via UEFI) but Windows is using a BIOS based bootloader. So, the way to get Ubuntu working is to install a BIOS based bootloader for Ubuntu.
[04:22] <GoodHeartedGuy> i mean its suppose to be released today.. but don't know the time
[04:22] <jam__> wilee-nilee__,if i still have grub2 so why i cannot see the dual boot page to choose ubuntu?
[04:23] <GoodHeartedGuy> no body knows whats the GMT time for release of ubuntu?
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> jam__, You will need to backup and give me more info.
[04:23] <ealeon> ive never lefT?
[04:24] <faoiseamh> my ubuntu server is crashing / locking up occasionally (every 1-3 days) with nothing in syslog / kern.log. It has tons of memory + idle cpu + disk space. Short of a hardware test, what can I do to debug this?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> jam__, Did you install ubuntu from windows to begin with?
[04:24] <ealeon> yes he did
[04:25] <jam__> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and win7 dualboot in seperate partition(not wubi  installer) they are completely separate
[04:25] <ealeon> yeah but they share RAM
[04:25] <ealeon> how much RAM you got on ubuntu?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> jam__, So you have to installs W7 and Ubuntu what is the problem would help here.
[04:25] <jam__> ubuntu is not installed on windows
[04:26] <ealeon> ubuntu is OS and so is windows.....
[04:26] <l0ui625> anyone got the ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[04:26] <ealeon> not out yet
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !isitiout|l0ui625:
[04:26] <dwlocks> is anyone still running 11.04 (natty)
[04:27] <ealeon> no 12.03
[04:27] <ealeon> 04
[04:27] <jam__> no Im reinstalling win7 and i used bootrepair to continue win install process. and I can not see ubuntu anymore should i install ubuntu from the begining or it is still there?
[04:27] <jam__> to sum up how can i log in ubuntu after reinstalling windows
[04:28]  * dwlocks does not believe in  multiboot
[04:28] <ealeon> get w8
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> jam__, Why would you use the bootrepair to finish a windows install, is this a UEFI setup?
[04:28] <l0ui625> i want 12.10 NOW!
[04:28] <Elesa> Hi, just a quick question, is a /boot partition really needed? If yes, why?
[04:28] <jam__> I don't know uefi?
[04:28] <dwlocks> windows installers usually overwrite the boot sector, but I haven't done it in awhile.
[04:29] <dwlocks> uefi is a new way to specify where the boot info is, right?
[04:29] <jam__> but i can not continue installing windows after the first restart in instaling windows
[04:29] <cbeust> Elesa: if / is on raid. if / is encrypted.  if / is on lvm. probably others
[04:29] <jam__> I face with a page grub repair
[04:29] <dwlocks> http://www.uefi.org/about/
[04:30] <nytona> ciao
[04:30] <ocrpy> buenas
[04:30] <l0ui625> hola
[04:30] <nytona> ed ora ome faccio a scaricare
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> jam__, So windows boots now correct? You wont see ubuntu from windows in the bootloader or in computer, you can reload grub using the recommended button in bootrepair, it also generates a bootscript, if you have problems post the HTTP address of that script.
[04:30] <ealeon> how do you access an ip addr thats not registered on DNS or within your network?
[04:31] <ocrpy> alguien puede ayudarme?
[04:31] <l0ui625> que necesitas?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> english channel
[04:31] <ocrpy> problema con ubuntu
[04:31] <ealeon> si senor
[04:31] <jam__> wilee-nilee__, so i need to run boot repair for second time?
[04:31] <ealeon> que pasa?
[04:31] <nytona> italiano canale ??
[04:31] <l0ui625> cual es tu problema?
[04:31] <jam__> again recomended setting?
[04:32] <ealeon> aieee papi
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> jam__, YOu have left so much out here, second time has no context.
[04:32] <ocrpy> cuando instale la version del grub de ubuntu ya no pude ver las particiones de windows
[04:32] <ealeon> aieee papi
[04:32] <l0ui625> tipico
[04:32] <Elesa> thanks cbeust, I guess I don't need it :D
[04:32] <ocrpy> esq formatee la maquina
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> ocrpy, This is an english channel.
[04:32] <jam__> ok then thanks wilee-nilee
[04:33] <ealeon> chulo pinga
[04:33] <xangua> !es |  l0ui625 ocrpy
[04:33] <l0ui625> busca info en google
[04:33] <xangua> ealeon: stop that please
[04:33] <Elesa> ocrpy: Si no estoy equivocada, el canal en espanol es #ubuntu-es
[04:33] <usr13> Elesa: Separate /home is more important that /boot
[04:33] <ealeon> xangua, sorry
[04:33] <Elesa> usr13: Cool, thanks!
[04:33] <l0ui625> tienes que hacer recovery con el dvd de windows
[04:33] <ocrpy> ok thanks
[04:34] <l0ui625> y reparar el inicio desde cmd
[04:34] <l0ui625> googlea es algo tipico
[04:34] <usr13> Elesa:  I use 3 partitions, swap and / and /home (in that order).
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !es|l0ui625:
[04:34] <T_A_N_K> Hello
[04:34] <Elesa> Why swap first?
[04:34] <usr13> Elesa: speed
[04:34] <l0ui625> i talk both dude cfhowlett
[04:35] <l0ui625> i just want to help
[04:35] <T_A_N_K> I am sorry to bother you all, how do i get the .deb for wine 1.4 for the macintosh ubuntu archetexture? I have been looking for it for about 6 hours now and there is no trace of it on launchpad, i am trying to install wine on a computer with no internet.
[04:35] <usr13> Elesa: Speed and convenience.  Swap is smallest, /  is second smallest, /home is large
[04:36] <Elesa> I always made / first, then swap and finally home lol
[04:36] <Elesa> Is that slower?
[04:36] <usr13> Elesa: swap maybe 4G  / maybe 20G  and the rest for /home
[04:36] <nytona> ciao
[04:36] <Elesa> I have 4 GB of RAM
[04:37] <usr13> Writing takes place on the outer edge of a disk first.
[04:37] <T_A_N_K> So i am guessing ubuntu does not carry offline debs for the macintosh architecture any more?
[04:37] <nytona> lista fila
[04:37] <Elesa> T_A_N_K: You mean Power PC?
[04:37] <nytona> lista film
[04:37] <T_A_N_K> Yes
[04:38] <T_A_N_K> I have been trying to find wine 1.4 for powerpc for about 6 hours now
[04:38] <Elesa> To be honest I don't even know if there's wine for Power PC
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> There is, but i cannot use the internet
[04:39] <SqueakyBelle> I don't think wine for PPC would work because of the x86 vs PPC arch differences
[04:39] <usr13> T_A_N_K: Why not?
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> i need wine to install my netgear adapter, i know, it sounds strange, but i just need it to work because i've done this before
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> T_A_N_K, Have you stopped by #winehq
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> Just not on powerpc
[04:39] <T_A_N_K> Good idea
[04:39] <dubwoc> ask one ask all
[04:39] <dubwoc> ahh yeah
[04:39] <Elesa> I don-t think that would work in Power PC
[04:40] <Elesa> Since that driver is supposed to be for x86?
[04:40] <Elesa> You could try ndiswrapper instead?
[04:40] <SqueakyBelle> I think that's what he's trying to do
[04:40] <dubwoc> you can't mix drivers and architectures like that..
[04:40] <SqueakyBelle> ^
[04:41] <ssshvb> sorry got DC
[04:41] <Elesa> I figured ndiswrapper doesn't work with drivers of different architectures. xD
[04:41] <SqueakyBelle> It doesn't. I've tried.
[04:42] <T_A_N_K> ndiswrapper does not work at all, it is crap. Wine works great for installing netgear adapters.
[04:43] <Elesa> Umm, like.. Wine is supposed to run Windows software, not integrate drivers with a *NIX system. o_o
[04:43] <OerHeks> Elesa +1
[04:43] <SqueakyBelle> Elesa +2
[04:44] <T_A_N_K> Would there be a way to install windows over ubuntu?
[04:44] <Elesa> Hehe. <3
[04:44] <Elesa> Windows OVER Ubuntu?
[04:44] <OerHeks> T_A_N_K, no
[04:44] <T_A_N_K> Yes, i am running a hackintosh
[04:45] <Elesa> You mean installing Windows drivers? I don't think so.
[04:45] <T_A_N_K> No, i mean booting windows with grub.
[04:45] <SqueakyBelle> How can you run a PPC hackintosh?
[04:45] <Elesa> ^
[04:46] <T_A_N_K> I was running it before, but it crashed.  That's impossible unless you virtualize it.
[04:48] <RaringOne> dtx: No swearing in here please
[04:49] <dtx> RaringOne: Sorry, thought I was in chat
[04:49] <Elesa> Anyway, you're better off searching for a Netgear driver written specifically for your.. Power PC machine.
[04:49] <Elesa> You can't mix architectures.
[04:49] <T_A_N_K> Nevermind, i found the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYBWMD6cg8
[04:50] <T_A_N_K> Good day to you all.
[04:50] <basketballstar> what time tomarrow will 12.10 be up for installation
[04:52] <Elesa> Umm, encrypting /home is not a very good idea, is it?
[04:52] <Elesa> I tried it twice, and the two times, some lvm thing failed to mount the drive.. or something.
[04:52] <Elesa> It's also slower, right?
[04:53] <nytona> ciao
[04:53] <somsip> !list | nytona
[04:53] <Areckx> how to use pastebinit or any similar packages? It keeps saying incorrect API
[04:54] <nytona> film
[04:54] <cbeust> ciao
[04:54] <basketballstar> when does 12.10 come out
[04:55] <cbeust> october?
[04:55] <whatwhat> why everyting in linux is difficult
[04:55] <whatwhat> not user friendly
[04:55] <Elesa> whatwhat: It depends on your definition of user friendly and easy.
[04:55] <RaringOne> somsip: You were right in this case but please don't assume all italian users are looking for warez.
[04:55] <cbeust> and everything
[04:55] <alien2050> whatwhat: it's not, but you need to shift your mentality
[04:56] <whatwhat> it is alien unless you are talking about some programming stuffs
[04:56] <whatwhat> it is not
[04:56] <alien2050> it's more powerful, more flexible, and you can finally work with a computer instead of updating your OS and antivirus every 2 minutes
[04:56] <somsip> RaringOne: that's 2 nil to me. I'll stop while I'm ahead. Point taken
[04:56] <Elesa> whatwhat: Also, things are different in Linux, not precisely harder. For example, would you rather download Firefox from the Software Center, or open up another browser, type firefox.com, go to the download page, wait for it to download, and install it yourself?
[04:56] <cbeust> whatwhat: huh?
[04:56] <GothicKitty93> Obvious troll is obvious...
[04:56] <Elesa> ^
[04:57] <whatwhat> install a software should be easy but in linux is it tough
[04:57] <whatwhat> to get this done
[04:57] <cfhowlett> whatwhat: so use something else
[04:57] <bjrohan> What are some backup utilites you use? I tried Deja Dup, but it is NOT automatic, never has been for me, always says it is waiting for a network connection when I am connected to my network and can browse the ssh directory I want to store the backup in
[04:57] <gartral|2> hey all, can someone tell me what's going on here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286340/
[04:58] <RaringOne> !manual | whatwhat
[04:58] <Elesa> whatwhat: did you even read what I typed? Installing most things a typical user needs takes like 1 search and 2 clicks in Ubuntu. In Windows it involves Googling stuff and installing them yourself.
[04:58] <whatwhat> that's the reason why linux will not be a wildly adopted
[04:58] <Elesa> Obvious troll, is obvious.
[04:58]  * Elesa shuts up.
[04:58] <RaringOne> whatwhat: Do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[04:58] <alien2050> whatwhat: no it's not... it s actually a lot easier than M$ where you need to run on all the different websites one by one
[04:58] <GothicKitty93> Can we vote kick like TF2 lol?
[04:58] <cbeust> gartral|2: its trying to load a file that doesn't exists
[04:59] <alien2050> to get software that may or may not be free
[04:59] <cbeust> exist*
[04:59] <gartral|2> cbeust: but it does exist!
[04:59] <cbeust> gartral|2: try ldd or strace to figure out what
[04:59] <Elesa> GothicKitty93: That would be awesome! xD
[04:59] <cbeust> gartral|2: which exists?
[04:59] <gartral|2> cbeust: the SPAZ installer binary
[04:59] <dominic_> whatwhat: as what alien2050 said, you need to change your point of view
[04:59] <alien2050> or even worst, winbloze doesn't boot anymore, why ? nobody knows
[05:00] <cbeust> gartral|2: and running that tries to load something that doesn't exist
[05:00] <whatwhat> dominic , the developer of linux os need to change their view instead
[05:00] <Elesa> I think we shouldn't argue with him. >.>
[05:00] <GothicKitty93> !votekick
[05:00] <whatwhat> if they care to make it big
[05:00] <Elesa> "The developer of Linux OS"
[05:00] <cbeust> whatwhat: send the devleoper of linux an email
[05:00] <Elesa> LMAO
[05:00] <Elesa> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[05:00] <alien2050> good luck repairing the OS! in ubuntu it is extremely modular so a lot easier, but also a bit more basic knowledge needed initially
[05:01] <GothicKitty93> This guy is obviously a spy...
[05:01] <RaringOne> !ot | Everybody
[05:01] <Elesa> He's obviously trolling. I suggest we stop arguing with him. Also, whatwhat, type this: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <alien2050> ;)
[05:01] <dominic_> +1
[05:01] <Elesa> There you can evangelize all of us into using Windows or Mac.
[05:02] <RaringOne> Elesa: please take your own advice and drop it
[05:02] <gartral|2> cbeust: strace is giving me very strange output
[05:02] <cbeust> Elesa: not mac, he's identified unix as the problem
[05:02] <alien2050> ha! good one
[05:02] <anders_> Then I'm back again.... Fresh Ubuntu yet again, still no luck with the wireless USB. How can I install Ndiswrapper without internet? I got a .tar.gz file, but I don't know how to install it
[05:03] <starbuck33> one question: is 12.10 going to be officially released today?
[05:03] <gartral|2> cbeust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1286350/
[05:03] <RaringOne> !party | starbuck33
[05:03] <xangua> !isitout | starbuck33
[05:03] <cbeust> gartral|2: you'll want -f to strace
[05:03] <starbuck33> !party
[05:03] <cbeust> gartral|2: the "bin" file is probably forking
[05:05] <cbeust> gartral|2: are you on 64 bit and this bin is 32 bit?
[05:07] <schnappi> is it out?
[05:07] <whatwhat> fanboy will always be fanboy  ignoring the probem .
[05:07] <gartral|2> cbeust: I think it's supposet to be a universal
[05:07] <bjrohan> Does anyone on here use a GUI to do a regular backup over ssh? If so what?
[05:08] <cbeust> gartral|2: huh?
[05:08] <gartral|2> cbeust: I think the binary is suppost to be architecture-independant
[05:08] <bjrohan> Can anyone on here hear me?
[05:08] <bjrohan> :-D
[05:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is it better to run ubuntu on a virtual machine under windows, or to run windows on a virtual machine under linux?
[05:08] <cbeust> gartral|2: what does "file" say it is?
[05:08] <Elesa> dsnyders: I think it depends on what you want to do.
[05:08] <dtx> bjrohan: no, I have tts turned off.
[05:09] <bjrohan> :-)
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, It is a personal choice there is no better
[05:09] <Elesa> Or what system you feel more comfortable with.
[05:09] <bjrohan> dsnyder - deleted windows
[05:09] <cbeust> gartral|2: i don't know what an architecture independant binary means
[05:09] <Elesa> I'm not sure if Ubuntu with Unity will behave well in a Virtual Machine though. D:
[05:09] <bjrohan> dsnyders - remove windows
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> !who
[05:10] <bjrohan> !tab
[05:10] <bjrohan> aahh
[05:10] <Elesa> Bbl.
[05:10] <gartral|2> cbeust: I thought it would be able to be used for either 32 or 64 bit. but indeed it's 32-bit only
[05:11] <cbeust> gartral|2: well in any case, its the same answer, its trying to load a library you don't have installed
[05:11] <cbeust> gartral|2: have you tried ldd?
[05:12] <gartral|2> cbeust: the binary is not a dymaic exacutable
[05:12] <gartral|2> executable*
[05:12] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I'm not sure what you mean by your comment "remove windows".
[05:12] <cbeust> gartral|2: lies.  your ldd doesn't know how to read it.
[05:13] <cbeust> gartral|2: are you running a 64 bit os?
[05:13] <gartral|2> cbeust: indded
[05:13] <cbeust> gartral|2: is libc6-i386 installed?
[05:13] <anders_> Can anybody tell how the f... I can get ndiswrapper on my Ubuntu 12.04 without internet?
[05:14] <gartral|2> cbeust: will be soon
[05:14] <dsnyders> anders_, USB thumb drive from another machine?
[05:14] <bjrohan> dsnyders sorry I was being funny.
[05:15] <bjrohan> Does anyone have a good backup app that works well over ssh?
[05:15] <bjrohan> or recommend one?
[05:15] <dsnyders> bjrohan, rsync perhaps?
[05:16] <anders_> dsnyders: I've tryed with .deb files and tar.gz but haven't got it to work either way
[05:16] <Juego> How do I turn down the graphics on the live CD?
[05:16] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: For what it's worth, I switched completely to Ubuntu with a new SSD, and run Win8 in a VM.
[05:16] <bjrohan> dsnyders is it a gui? I need GUI :-(
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> Juego, Turn down?
[05:17] <dsnyders> DaemonicApathy, That was the direction I was heading in.  I am without experience when it comes to virtual machines.  Can two VMs talk to each other via networking?
[05:17] <anders_> I've been working to get Ubuntu work on mye stationary for 5 hours now... please help...
[05:18] <dsnyders> bjrohan, No, it's not gui itself, but I believe there are wrappers for it.
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyder: I've never needed to go that far down the rabbithole, but I do know you can share a host folder as an intermediary.
[05:18] <bjrohan> so grsync would work well?
[05:18] <bjrohan> better than deja crap?
[05:18] <DaemonicApathy> * dsnyders
[05:19] <bjrohan> Deja Dup worked otay once, won't do it on schedule
[05:19] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I can
[05:19] <bjrohan> dsnyders you can what?
[05:19] <anders_> Is it easy to share my internet (from laptop) to my stationary (via cable) in 12.04?
[05:20] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I can't say.  I've never used it.  My "backup strategy" is to buy the next sized up hard disk and drag/drop
[05:20] <bjrohan> Gotcha
[05:20] <dsnyders> bjrohan, I accidentally hit return on that one, sorry.
[05:22] <bkc_> bjrohan: If you're familiar with the terminal I'd recommend rsync :)
[05:23] <dsnyders> Well, thanks all for your help and advice.  Sunrise in in a few hours and I need to get enough beauty sleep to keep children from screaming in horror when they see me.
[05:23] <anders_> dsnyders: can you help me with a easy guide or step-by-step on how to share internet?
[05:23] <dsnyders> anders_, Sadly, I can't tonight.
[05:24] <anders_> Ok, but thanks. :)
[05:24] <excedere> Trying to get logkeys to run on ubuntu 12 on an older Mac, just prints the help every time I try to start it.  Any ideas?
[05:25] <hai> ？？
[05:27] <bjrohan> will rsync allow for the exclusion of subfolders?
[05:28] <lestus> which flavour of ubuntu does everyone prefer>
[05:30] <lestus> do you gutu?ys like xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu or plain ol' ubun
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> where's ubuntu release party?
[05:31] <bkc_> lestus: If I'm forced to use ubuntu at all, I prefer Kubuntu on high-end computers and xubuntu/lubuntu on mid/low-end computers... plain ubuntu is out of the question because I simply hate unity...
[05:31] <bkc_> dArKd3ViL: everywhere?
[05:31] <excedere> Xubuntu on my older machine, plain Ubuntu on the girlfriends rig
[05:31] <excedere> she loves unity, lol
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> nopf, i mean on what irc channel? :P
[05:31] <dArKd3ViL> *no
[05:31] <bkc_> ooh
[05:31] <bkc_> !releaseparty
[05:31] <bkc_> dArKd3ViL: ^
[05:33] <dArKd3ViL> i miss partybot
[05:33] <dArKd3ViL> where is he anyway?
[05:34] <AcidHaze> anyone taking questions about 12.04
[05:34] <smw> !ask | AcidHaze
[05:34] <bjrohan> !patience
[05:36] <AcidHaze> ihave an issue : using 12.04 on an asus x401a * Model * where no media cards will mount manually or auto mount i have tried writing in the fstab but still no go
[05:39] <excalibr> can someone explain me how the value Y in grub's "set root (hdX,Y)" is numbered?
[05:40] <c_nick> I read a couple of links on how to install windows 8 on Virtualbox(Ubuntu) But i constantly get http://imageshack.us/a/img87/8428/win8errorscreenshot.png error even though i followed everything properly.
[05:40] <bkc_> excalibr: 0 -> (partition-count - 1)
[05:42] <excalibr> bkc_: what do you mean by 0..doesn't the value starts from 1?
[05:43] <lbbef> Hi, I would like to help update the blender package in the universe repo, how do i go about doing that?
[05:43] <bkc_> mine says "root (hd0,0)", for sda1... so it's from 0 :)
[05:43] <chovynz> hi all. What is the CLI command's for finding all files with spaces and renaming them with underlines? I have done this before with this channels help but cannot remember the command.
[05:43] <bkc_> lbbef: become a maintainer :)
[05:43] <info> i want to check whether a command exist of not, in shell script. how can i do that?
[05:44] <chovynz> info: man command or info command
[05:44]  * bkc_ slaps chovynz with "read what he said again..." :)
[05:44] <chovynz> info: there's also command -? or command --help
[05:45] <obtrusivemouse> i cant get xdefaults to pop up, i don't think it exists, should it exist?
[05:45] <bkc_> info: if [ `which command` != "" ]; then echo "I exist ^.^" ; fi
[05:45] <chovynz> bkc is my statement not true?
[05:45] <bkc_> chovynz: nope :)
[05:45] <chovynz> bkc lol ok
[05:45] <bkc_> chovynz: also, for [
[05:45] <lbbef> bkc_: how do i become a maintainer??
[05:45] <excalibr> info:: command -v foobar
[05:45] <bkc_> aargh... I hate my enter-key -.-
[05:46] <bkc_> lbbef: no idea, havn't used ubuntu since may :/
[05:46] <chovynz> bkc_: can you substitute it for the any key?
[05:46] <bkc_> and never been a maintainer
[05:46] <bkc_> chovynz: ;)
[05:47] <chovynz> bkc_: may i ask why you stopped using ubuntu?
[05:47] <obtrusivemouse> is it true you have to create your own xdefaults, vimrc and xsession files?
[05:48] <bkc_> chovynz: found Arch Linux :)
[05:48] <bkc_> chovynz: I like simplicity, that's all :)
[05:48] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: they are to add your own settings. By default, they are empty (never used .xsessions myself though)
[05:49] <somsip> s/empty/absent
[05:49] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, thanks, i thought i had to download more files, right now i'm trying to customize my own desktop
[05:50] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: be aware that you need to look at .xDefaults and .vimrc - not as you typed them
[05:51] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: sorry - .Xdefaults
[05:52] <obtrusivemouse> somsip, does the capitalization matter?
[05:52] <somsip> obtrusivemouse: yes
[05:52] <chovynz> hi all. What is the CLI command's for finding all files with spaces (ex-windows-files) and renaming them with underlines? I have done this before with this channels help but cannot remember the command.
[05:53] <somsip> chovynz: this migth help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4617275/how-to-replace-backslashes-from-windows-formatted-files-into-nix-format-and-ree
[05:54] <excalibr> chovynz: find + rename
[05:54] <BadDesign> Does the proprietary AMD Linux x64 driver work for ATI RV515 PRO [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]  ?
[05:55] <SAKUJ0> i am curious, at what time is 12.10 release due? it is probably around us afternoon, amirite?
[05:56] <somsip> SAKUJ0: when it's ready. It's not a fixed time
[05:56] <info> chovynz: i want to check whether  command "fuser" exist, and if it exist it shouldn't print in terminal, it should return true or 1
[05:56] <smw> wow, 12.10 is this month... lol
[05:57] <osteenbergen> info, try "which fuser | wc -l"
[05:57] <SAKUJ0> but we can expect it to be within 24h?
[05:57] <excalibr> i think some mirrors already have the 12.10 final iso
[05:57] <somsip> SAKUJ0: due on the 18th, so in the next 24 hours
[05:57] <somsip> !isitout | excalibr
[05:57] <Bhavesh> I always keep on getting "The proxy moz-proxy://<IP_ADDRESS>:800 is requesting a username and password. The site says: "Enter your MIS Credentials "" when ever I open codeacademy.com 's python course. And it keeps on coming again and again. What should I do?
[05:58] <info> osteenbergen: i want to try that in shell script
[05:58] <SAKUJ0> thank you, soms! bloody ms.. i am way too scared to upgrade my ubuntus :p
[05:59] <somsip> SAKUJ0: then I would recommend leaving it a few days and waiting to gauge reaction to the upgrade. That's what I do
[05:59] <SAKUJ0> haha i am the kind of guy who just starts from scratch and performs a clean install on every desktop
[06:00] <Bhavesh> Can somebody please give me a zipped version of google chrome .deb for ubuntu? I cannot download .deb directly from my college
[06:00] <excalibr> SAKUJ0: that screams ocd! :D
[06:00] <SAKUJ0> i even cannot remember the last time do-release-upgrade disappointed me :p
[06:02] <osteenbergen> info, in shell script you can just use that
[06:03] <SAKUJ0> <3 i just read thunderbird 16 is packed :p
[06:03] <osteenbergen> result=`which fuser | wc -l` or just run "which fuser" and check the status of the exit code with $!
[06:03] <SAKUJ0> that one is only a few days old i love you guys
[06:04] <info> osteenbergen: thanks it worked
[06:04] <info> :-)
[06:05] <cortexA9> Is 12.10 available ?
[06:05] <osteenbergen> info, owh typo: exit code you get with $?
[06:05] <somsip> !isitout | cortexA9
[06:05] <overclucker> info: command -v ls && echo true || echo false
[06:06] <ringtail> cortexA9: But you can still party!
[06:07] <osteenbergen>  #zabbix
[06:10] <SAKUJ0> haha, I got you somsip ! 12.10 might come out in 24-28 hours! damn you nautical time zone >:p
[06:10] <chovynz> how do i make a file in CLI that i can list a bunch of useful command in? e.g. once I finalise my FIND SPACES AND RENAME TO UNDERSCORE command, I can refer to that file again instead of asking the same question here every two or so weeks?
[06:11] <somsip> chovynz: you maybe want to make some aliases in ~/.bash_aliases
[06:11] <chovynz> nano ~useful.commands.txt or something?
[06:11] <osteenbergen> chovynz, bash_aliases is your best bet ;)
[06:11] <somsip> chovynz: See here for some examples http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374947
[06:13] <ComraDerpy> is there an early release torrent yet?
[06:14] <somsip> !isitout | ComraDerpy
[06:14] <ComraDerpy> k
[06:14] <hackers72> slt a vous tous
[06:14] <HackerII> be patient
[06:15] <hackers72> je cherche irc anonymous merci
[06:16] <somsip> !fr | hackers72
[06:16] <ComraDerpy> speaking of which, anybody use the X series radeons?
[06:17] <chovynz> how do i edit .bash-aliases?
[06:17] <somsip> chovynz: with a text editor. gedit, or vi or nano in CLI
[06:17] <somsip> chovynz:  and it's .bash_aliases
[06:17] <chovynz> thanks somsip
[06:18] <hackers72> slt a vous tous
[06:19] <hackers72> cherche irc anonymous fr merci
[06:20] <cheesytiger> hello all. I am thinking of using Ubuntu and need some questions answered. I would like to instal Ubuntu, but I don't have a  discrete graphics card (I have an Intel integrated graphics card). I really don't need a 3D desktop like Unity. Is it possible to install Ubuntu but have a 2D desktop?
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, intel is the way to go
[06:20] <cheesytiger> if the answer is yes, what are my options
[06:20] <cheesytiger> ?
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> is your hardware up to date?
[06:20] <somsip> !fr | hackers72 vous ai déjà dit
[06:20] <SAKUJ0> i am using an intel card on my 5 year old laptop right now cheesytiger - it has all the 3d gimmicks on
[06:20] <chovynz> Can you explain to me what this will do? I think this might be it. sudo find ~/usb -name "* *" -type d | rename 's/ /_/g'
[06:20] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: thanks. i went with a basic laptop (not a high-end one)  for budget reasons
[06:21] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, ram and cpu?
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: what do you mean by up-to-date hardware?
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: 4 GB ram, and CPU is (how do i find out?)
[06:21] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: what command to run
[06:21] <SAKUJ0> it is enough cheesytiger - your hardware won't be too slow (even graphics)
[06:22] <SAKUJ0> it is quite the contrary, cheesytiger - if you had a dedicated nvidia graphics card you would not be able to use it anyway
[06:23] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, just put in any live cd and you can test the system from there. you can test your '3d environment' by hitting window+s and windows+w - it should do some animated stuff
[06:23] <SAKUJ0> but pretty sure you have no need to worry whatsoever
[06:23] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i see. well, it's good to know that my computer can handle the 3D environment (I believe this is called Unity, right). but i still would like to know whether I can have a 2D desktop instead, just in case?
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, it gets removed *today* with the release of the next ubuntu
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> if you are really worried, stick to 12.04.1 LTS
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> which is available now
[06:24] <SAKUJ0> it is packed with unity-2d
[06:24] <chovynz> Can someone explain this to me? sudo find ~/usb -name "* *" -type d | rename 's/ /_/g'. As far as I know it, sudos find all directories with a space in it and renames the space to underscore. What does the 's/ /_/g' mean or do?
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> but there is a reason the devs remove unity-2d
[06:25] <wachpwnski> How do you make an installer on a usb stick on the mac?
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> it sounds harsh especially since unity was in a bad place for a long time
[06:25] <SAKUJ0> if you have a laptop with an intel based onboard graphics adapter that is not older than 5 years unity should run find with '3d mode'
[06:25] <HackerII> wachpwnski-  does unetbootin work for mac ?
[06:26] <wachpwnski> HackerII:  looks like it
[06:26] <HackerII> use that
[06:26] <HackerII> when you dl it, go to properties and turn it on
[06:26] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: ok. what about Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. What are the 2D desktop options? (By the way, my CPU is Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU        P6200  @ 2.13GHz)
[06:26] <excalibr> chovynz: that cmd search for dir names that contain spaces and replace the spaces with _
[06:27] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i see your other lines to me
[06:27] <chovynz> excalibr: what does the 's/ /_/g' stand for?
[06:27] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, in the login screen you can (maybe you need to install a package for it but i think it was not necessary) the option to boot Unity 2d
[06:27] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i didn't see them initially because you did not type my nickname in them, and thus were not highlighted by my xchat program
[06:27] <SAKUJ0> the only times i have ever found myself in need of Unity 2D was when attaching a 2nd monitor to my 5 year old laptop
[06:28] <ruscour> is there any official release time or anything?
[06:28] <excalibr> chovynz: substitute all occurences of space with _
[06:28] <somsip> ruscour: just 'today', as in the 18th
[06:28] <SAKUJ0> ruscour, the only thing official is that it will be here within 27 hours and 30 minutes
[06:28] <SAKUJ0> ruscour, that however is only the promise
[06:29] <chovynz> excalibr: what does the g do?
[06:29] <ruscour> well my current 12.04 install is pretty horrifically messed up so I might as well do a clean install, meaning I might as well just wait for 12.10
[06:29] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i do plan on using another monitor with my laptop
[06:30] <excalibr> g=global..apply to all occurrences
[06:30] <SAKUJ0> cheesytiger, things could get worse there but pretty sure it will be ok
[06:31] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i don't follow. What things could get worse? Worse than what?
[06:31] <SAKUJ0> meaning you might have to disable '3d' for that
[06:32] <SAKUJ0> if you depend on it i would stick to 12.04.1 LTS - and then see if you have to fall back to unity-2d
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> also it was a bit rough before, meaning that 3d only worked on 1 screen or other issues on my hardware
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> but you should be able to test it with the live cd
[06:33] <SAKUJ0> *on 1 screen at the same time
[06:35] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0:  sorry, i don't understand your last line (On 1 screen at a time).
[06:35] <cheesytiger> SAKUJ0: i want to test out a multimonitor setup. What do you mean by "on 1 screen at a time"?
[06:37] <chovynz> how do i find the number of files that FIND finds?