[16:40] <darthanubis> although you can
[16:41] <IPhoton> Hmm, never tried double clicking
[16:41] <IPhoton> Even during vim I guess
[16:44] <muh2000> hi
[16:44] <muh2000> i have a new cpu and now the frequency is always highest possible value.   how to fix that?
[16:45] <pavlos> IPhoton, double click selects word, triple click whole sentence
[16:45] <Guest86507> i have always lowest possible value
[16:48] <OpenSorce> So does this channel only support Unity or does it support the non-adware DE's as well?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  non-adware?
[16:49] <SchrodingersScat> !flavors | OpenSorce
[16:49] <polyzium> hi
[16:49] <OpenSorce> MonkeyDust, out of the box Unity is amazon.com adware. Common knowledge. I was asking if THIS channel offers support for the other DEs or not.
[16:50] <polyzium> i installed ubuntu today
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  what makes you think that unity is amazon adware?
[16:50] <polyzium> grub menu does not show plz help
[16:51] <OpenSorce> MonkeyDust, because... it throws up ads for amazon in every search. Anyone going to answer the question though?
[16:51] <tgm4883> This channel really needs a do-not-engage policy
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> OpenSorce: already have
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  simply disable that option
[16:51] <OpenSorce> SchrodingersScat, No you showed me what other DEs there are. Does this channel support them?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  and don't spread FUD about adware nonsense
[16:52] <trijntje> its always fun to see people insult the channel and then ask for help
[16:52] <polyzium> so what i need to do with grub?
[16:52] <trijntje> polyzium: it wont show up if you only have ubuntu on your pc, did you remove windows?
[16:52] <tgm4883> lets stay on topic
[16:52] <SchrodingersScat> OpenSorce: the ones we don't support normally flag you to seek help elsewhere.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  what is your actual question?
[16:52] <OpenSorce> MonkeyDust, wasn't the point... and it isn't FUD. It's fact. So does this channel support the other DEs or no?
[16:52] <polyzium> trijntje, it boots into windows
[16:52] <tgm4883> OpenSorce: to the best of our ability, yes
[16:53] <polyzium> and grub menu is not shown
[16:53] <OpenSorce> tgm4883, thank you!
[16:53] <tgm4883> OpenSorce: but we may refer you to the flavor specific channel
[16:53] <trijntje> polyzium: in that case something went wrong with the installation, better try again
[16:53] <OpenSorce> tgm4883, that would certainly be helpful.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  don't confuse FUD with facts, that's confusing to new users
[16:53] <OpenSorce> tgm4883, I'm asking for research.
[16:54] <polyzium> trijntje, i need to reinstall again? maybe that's because i put grub into /dev/sda4?
[16:54] <tgm4883> OpenSorce: research for what?
[16:54] <OpenSorce> MonkeyDust, not gonna do this with you. If you have to disable adds, it's adware. Pure and simple. I'm not hating.
[16:54] <trijntje> polyzium: installing again is the easiest, you have to put grub on /dev/sda
[16:54] <OpenSorce> tgm4883, an article I'm writing aimed at new users.
[16:55] <polyzium> trijntje, it says failed to get canonical path of cow
[16:55] <Rodrigo5244> Hello, I have removed and installed Firefox, and now the Ubuntu's scroll bar is missing just on Firefox. How do I get it back on Firefox?
[16:55] <OpenSorce> So for instance, if a new user came in here and said they don't like the ads and the general feel of Unity you would help them find a suitable replacement?
[16:55] <trijntje> polyzium: it?
[16:56] <tgm4883> OpenSorce: yes, that has happened before
[16:56] <OpenSorce> tgm4883, thank you again :-)
[16:56] <boodllebat> how to get device node ?
[16:57] <xangua> Rodrigo5244: if by Ubuntu scrollbar you mean the Overlay scrollbar, Firefox doesn't use it
[16:57] <polyzium> trijntje, what? i typed "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[16:57] <OpenSorce> Rodrigo5244, how did you remove and then install FF. Was it through the package manager?
[16:57] <trijntje> polyzium: where did you type that?
[16:57] <boodllebat> how to get connected device's node in ubuntu ? Thanks
[16:57] <polyzium> trijntje, from liveusb
[16:57] <polyzium> terminal
[16:57] <trijntje> polyzium: that wont work, its easier to just reinstall
[16:58] <trijntje> !grub see this polyzium
[16:58] <Rodrigo5244> OpenSorce: I think I removed it using Ubuntu software center. And I installed it using apt-get install.
[16:58] <trijntje> !grub | polyzium
[16:59] <OpenSorce> Rodrigo5244, kk... you should be fine then. Was it there before you removed it?
[17:00] <Rodrigo5244> OpenSorce: I don't remember. After installing Ubuntu I removed a lot of packages, Firefox included, and installed a different browser.
[17:00] <OpenSorce> Rodrigo5244, I think xangua is right. I don't think FF uses it.
[17:00] <Rodrigo5244> OpenSorce: I don't know how exactly the scroll bar works. I know I removed Firefox Ubuntu extention, do you think that is the issue?
[17:01] <OpenSorce> Rodrigo5244, is it not scrolling now or did you just want the look of the Unity scrollbar?
[17:02] <Rodrigo5244> That is weird. All the other applications have the overlay scrollbar. Why Firefox does not have it?
[17:03] <xangua> because firefox is not a GTK app
[17:03] <trijntje> AFAIK they needed to do some special hacks for firefox because it draws its own scrollbar or something
[17:03] <xangua> neither is LibreOffice
[17:03] <trijntje> but I dont know the details
[17:04] <tomtom_> hi there
[17:04] <polyzium> xangua, what it uses? Qt?
[17:04] <xangua> XUL
[17:04] <Rodrigo5244> I know chrome draw its own scrollbar, but I think Firefox uses gtk for the scrollbar.
[17:04] <polyzium> xangua, what is this?
[17:05] <OpenSorce> Rodrigo5244, there should be a Unity theme for it though if you want the look.
[17:05] <tomtom_> I've got a bit of an issue after restoring a supposedly full backup of my system
[17:05] <polyzium> trijntje, SOLVED i installed boot repair
[17:06] <trijntje> polyzium: cool, congratulations on your new ubuntu ;)
[17:06] <jayjo> will it cause a problem if I have acronjob that is still executing when it's time to run another job, or does the cron utitlity handle all of this?
[17:08] <tomtom_> every time I want to resolve some apt conflicts, I get Base class package "Debconf::DbDriver::Cache" is empty.
[17:08] <tomtom_> seems like some files or packages were not part of the backup because I excluded *Cache*
[17:09] <unknown_user> Hello, guys! How are you?
[17:09] <tomtom_> but I don't know which file or files I need to restore
[17:09] <tomtom_> http://pastebin.com/whcFm5Tq for a bit more context
[17:09] <trijntje> tomtom_: how did you make the backup?
[17:10] <tomtom_> trijntje: with backintime as root
[17:10] <trijntje> (also, if you put LANG=C in the terminal it will give all output in English)
[17:10] <tomtom_> trijntje: oh yeah, sorry about the german
[17:11] <renokikevi> How do i remove same content one dual displays  with xrandr?
[17:12] <tomtom_> trijntje: new version in english: http://pastebin.com/QJqQUe8x
[17:12] <Rodrigo5244> Ok, it seems that more applications don't support the overlay scrollbars too, so I will disable it to get a more uniform user interface. Thanks.
[17:12] <TJ-> tomtom_: try reinstalling the 'debconf' package
[17:12] <tomtom_> TJ-: thanks, will give it a shot
[17:12] <TJ-> tomtom_: That packages contains: "/usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm"
[17:13] <tomtom_> Oh yeah that sounds like a possible culprit
[17:14] <Rodrigo5244> Now Firefox scrollbar looks the same as other applications. It seems it does use gtk and does not draw its own like chrome.
[17:17] <Rodrigo5244> Now I can see that some applications have one style of scrollbars and others have a different style.
[17:17] <Rodrigo5244> Maybe the gtk2 theme is different than the gtk3 theme?
[17:19] <tomtom_> TJ: how would you reinstall the package? Apt always asks me to use install -f because some packages have unmed dependencies
[17:20] <renokikevi> I got two displays that are showing the same content how do i fix that?
[17:23] <victor__>  hi guys, i installed a  plasma theme via systemsettings5 and now i want to uninstall it but i don't find the file, where is it stored? (kubuntu here)
[17:23] <jmfurlott> Any way to improve the tiling system in Unity? Or rather, run xmonad, i3, etc with unity?
[17:27] <squeegily> I want to use my VPN connection ONLY for Deluge - all other programs, I want to route through my regular internet
[17:27] <squeegily> It's OpenVPN - how can I do this?
[17:27] <E}l{uk> kursor tormozit na ubuntu 15 v Hyper-V win2k8 R2
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> jmfurlott: maybe the #i3 guys might know?
[17:32] <squeegily> Checking "Use this connection only for resources on its network" disables routing ANY packets through that interface - even when manually specifying (e.g., curl --interface tun0)
[17:39] <DexterF> greetings! does this channel cover ubuntu phone?
[17:39] <popey> DexterF: #ubuntu-touch mostly does
[17:42] <jayjo> Can I have a crontab execute all python scripts in a directory/
[17:42] <jayjo> ?
[17:42] <jayjo> Or should I have it execute a script that recursively executes all python scripts in a subdirectory
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: maybe the #python guys might know?
[17:46] <teward> jayjo: #python might know, but ideally you would be having a crontab execute a script that would execute the other scripts...
[17:47] <squeegily> lotuspsychje and teward: It's not a Python-specific thing, it could be any language. #python would not be suitable for that question
[17:47] <jayjo> Well, right now I have a crontab that executes python scripts by first calling a shell script
[17:47] <squeegily> I think how you're doing it now is pretty much right then
[17:48] <teward> squeegily: true.
[17:48] <jayjo> this works fine, but I was wondering if there was a way to recursively execute the scripts so I don't even need a line that says 'python <filename>' but I could just place them all in a directory that would execute them
[17:50] <squeegily> jayjo: There's nothing built-in in any scripting language I can think of
[17:55] <arijk> Got a new external 1TB HDD (USB3.0). How can I check if it has bad sectors? How much time would it take for the process to complete??
[17:55] <arijk> Running Ubuntu 14.04
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | arijk
[18:03] <ioria> !info e2fsprogs
[18:03] <Denommus> where can I ask about libappindicator-gtk2 and libappindicator-gtk3?
[18:03] <Denommus> I'm trying to compile them for 32bits but getting errors
[18:08] <ioria> !info libgtk2-appindicator-perl
[18:10] <lost> hello can someone help me with installing tails im using ubuntu
[18:10] <Denommus> ioria: are you saying that I should install the perl version before trying to compile the gtk2 and gtk3 versions?
[18:11] <ioria> Denommus, not at all, i don't either know what are you doing :þ
[18:12] <ioria> +even
[18:13] <Denommus> ioria: I'm just trying to compile libappindicator for 32bits, under a 64bits system
[18:13] <Denommus> ioria: I am downloading the latest stable version, but getting an error "no: unknown command"
[18:13] <lost> so far i have[ dd if'/home/lost/Desktop/tails-i386-1.4/tails-i386-1.4.iso'  of=/dev/sdb1 bs=16M && sync]
[18:14] <lost> and got
[18:14] <lost> dd: unrecognized operand ‘if/home/lost/Desktop/tails-i386-1.4/tails-i386-1.4.iso’
[18:14] <lost> Try 'dd --help' for more information.
[18:14] <ioria> !info libappindicator1
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> lost: try multisystem to make iso to usb
[18:14] <Denommus> lost: it should be if=<yourpath>, not if'<yourpath>'
[18:15] <ioria> Denommus, that ^ ?
[18:15] <lost> multisystems?
[18:15] <Denommus> ioria: yes, but I'm using version 12.10.0
[18:15] <Denommus> ioria: should I try the version listed?
[18:16] <ioria> Denommus, why are you compiling from source ?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> lost: with multisystem you can create a boot usb easy, drag n drop the iso
[18:17] <lost> lotuspsychje: do i install multisystems?
[18:17] <Denommus> ioria: because I'm not using Ubuntu
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> lost: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:18] <ioria> Denommus, where did you get the source ?
[18:20] <Semiarty> so I have tried using http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html to download files from a target server with bypassing intermediate host, but I cannot do it because the intermediate host does not have netcat. Is there any other way of achieving my goal?
[18:21] <bekks> Semiarty: Just use the good old ssh -L
[18:22] <Semiarty> -l ?
[18:22] <Denommus> ioria: https://launchpad.net/libappindicator/12.10/12.10.0/+download/libappindicator-12.10.0.tar.gz
[18:22] <bekks> Semiarty: -L, not -l
[18:22] <Semiarty> ok, -L, so how does it work?
[18:23] <ioria> Denommus, anyways to enable 32bit look here : http://www.unixmen.com/enable-32-bit-support-64-bit-ubuntu-13-10-greater/
[18:23] <Semiarty> google doesn't tell me anything
[18:23] <arijk> lotuspsychje: Got into testdisk....  Getting this " /dev/sdb1 - 1000 GB / 931 GiB" But it shows 999.7GB Free(Total Capacity 1.0GB) and 443.2MB Used when I right click > Properties on the drive...
[18:23] <bekks> Semiarty: create a ssh tunnel, and "bypass" the intermediate host.
[18:23] <arijk> Is this OK?
[18:23] <umarmunir94> hi there guys.. I have a problem here with Xubuntu
[18:23] <umarmunir94> installed it first time after Manjaro crashed during an update
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> arijk: scan the whole disk with testdisk or install e2fsprogs as ioria suggested
[18:24] <Denommus> ioria: I'm not using Ubuntu..........
[18:24] <Semiarty> umarmunir94 #xubuntu
[18:24] <umarmunir94> Manjaro detected wifi when I pressed Fn + F2 but Xubuntu isn't detecting it
[18:24] <Denommus> ioria: I'm asking here because it seems this library is from Canonical, and the problem I'm having is upstream, not from my distro
[18:24] <umarmunir94> I have connected it through wire
[18:25] <umarmunir94> semiarty
[18:25] <lost> i downloaded it to the desktop as told and when i double click it it doesnt give option to run from terminal so i copy pasted into terminal and then had to put sudo pass and then nothing?
[18:25] <ioria> Denommus, ok, what are you using, then ? (why don't you install ubuntu ?)
[18:25] <umarmunir94> Semiarty
[18:25] <umarmunir94> #xubuntu
[18:26] <hplc> how do i mirror a webpage to a local folder? (for later editing of fonts/fontssize before printing)?
[18:27] <lost> now i have a window for x Term stuck open and wont close
[18:28] <arijk> Even if I go forward ...Do I choose Intel/PC as the partition table type  since the HDD is NTFS formatted?
[18:28] <Denommus> ioria: I'm using Arch Linux
[18:28] <arijk> lotuspsychje: ^
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> arijk: yes
[18:28] <Scunizi> HP laptop is giving me fits installing ubuntu.. HP has 4 partitions on the drive preventing me from installing. sda1 = system 199MiB, sda2 = typical windows parition for data, programs etc (resized to 93 gigs), sda3 = recovery 33GiB, and sda4 HP tools 103Mib fat32.  So without eliminating one of the partitions I can't add any more. The question is can I eliminate sda4 and still be able to use the recovery partition for re-installing windows if
[18:29] <arijk> lotuspsychje: Then choose Analyse right?
[18:29] <ioria> Denommus, you  have to find out the equivalent dependencies for arch, then
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> arijk: you can do the tests you want from list
[18:29] <Denommus> ioria: yes, I have the dependencies installed, that's not my problem, though
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> arijk: also check your syslog and dmesg for harddisk errors
[18:29] <Denommus> ioria: my problem is that I get an error "no: command not found" when trying to compile the library
[18:29] <Denommus> ioria: wait, I have some logs
[18:30] <Denommus> ioria: http://pastebin.com/BYpP1nS4
[18:32] <ioria> Denommus, could be the shell .... not /bin/sh, but /bin/bash
[18:33] <Pici> Denommus: It looks like its trying to execute a program called "no", which doesn't exist.
[18:33] <Denommus> Pici: I know, I just don't know why it's trying to execute that
[18:34] <Denommus> I looked into the makefile and couldn't find anything about that
[18:34] <ioria> Denommus,  i had the same problem with popd
[18:34] <Denommus> ioria: using /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh solved it? But how did you tell configure or make to use /bin/sh?
[18:35] <arijk> lotuspsychje: This is a new external 1TB USB3.0 HDD that I got today. Just want to check if everything's okay in there....  Gievn that I haven't written any data on it yet would dmesg or syslog have any external HD errors logs in them?
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> arijk: if a disk fails or badblocks, should show in the logs
[18:36] <ioria> Denommus,  if i type /bin/sh no i get Can't open no   with /bin/bash  No such file or directory
[18:36] <ioria> Denommus,  i think it's a shell path problem
[18:37] <ioria> Denommus,  oh, that could be a problem . maybe you have to change Makefile, or the header of each script, or the global  shell env variable
[18:38] <acovrig> I can’t get an apt-get upgrade to work, this is the output (https://bitbucket.org/snippets/acovrig/zyoMM); corrupted .deb download? BTW: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS on Linux bananapi 3.4.90 #3 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jul 29 16:16:05 CST 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[18:39] <arijk> lotuspsychje: I ran the Analyse option and and I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721024/
[18:40] <ioria> Denommus,  check echo $SHELL
[18:41] <arijk> lotuspsychje: I am thinking I would give it fresh NTFS format and start the testdisk again. Maybe the disk was not properly formatted by the manufacturer?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> arijk: you can try in another format yes, but i think bad sector is a bad sector
[18:42] <compdoc> netware 3.11. heh
[18:42] <Denommus> ioria: /usr/bin/zsh
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> arijk: ask in ##hardware if you want to be sure
[18:42] <ioria> Denommus,  oh... maybe you have to change it...
[18:43] <Denommus> ioria: it seems $(CSC) has "no" as a value in bindings/mono/Makefile.am
[18:43] <ioria> Denommus,  what you mean ?
[18:43] <Denommus> ioria: and $(CSFLAGS) is ""
[18:44] <Denommus> ioria: so the command generated by this line is no -keyfile:...
[18:44] <Denommus> ioria: I guess CSC should be the name of my csharp compiler
[18:45] <n00b> hi guys
[18:46] <ioria> Denommus,  i'd compile in C, first and correct the shell then
[18:46] <Denommus> ioria: CSC should probably be "csharp" instead of "no", and that's the problem
[18:47] <ioria> Denommus,  don't know, you can try
[18:47] <Denommus> ioria: that was it
[18:48] <ioria> Denommus,  compiled ?
[18:49] <Denommus> ioria: yup, I had to run make CSC=csharp
[18:50] <ioria> Denommus,  that's interesting
[18:52] <Kilikit_T> hi, just a quick q, linux peeps: I want to purge win7 starter from my sluggish and now fairly old netbook and replace it with linux. basically all I really want to do is some text editing, very occassional video chat, small amounts of web browsing, and some light coding tasks for my raspberry pi. what's the best ubuntu flavour for me?
[18:53] <Denommus> ok, now that it is compiled I must find out why it isn't installing XD
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | Kilikit_T
[18:53] <zykotick9> Kilikit_T: if you are worried about netbook's resources, xubuntu is lighter then ubuntu, and lubuntu is lighter then xubuntu.  But, you might want to start by testing ubuntu and see?  best of luck.
[18:54] <Kilikit_T> you guys have macros for everything. thanks lotuspsychje
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: do you know wich grafix card inside that machine?
[18:55] <newbsduser> ebian
[18:55] <Kilikit_T> aw nope
[18:55] <Kilikit_T> I can find out two secs
[18:56] <newbsduser> hello, /bin/cp -fr testx testy ; echo $? gives me:  "/bin/cp: `testx' and `testy' are the same file", how can i bypass it want to see exit code 0 and overwrite the file...
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: anyway as zykotick9 suggests you could try ubuntu as first, see what it gives
[18:56] <impi> omfg
[18:56] <impi> im going crazy
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> impi: can we help you?
[18:56] <impi> ubuntu is SHIT.
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !language | impi
[18:56] <Kilikit_T> gma 3150, I believe Intel
[18:57] <impi> i get a m3800 dell because it's punted as a ubuntu laptop
[18:57] <impi> nothing works.
[18:57] <impi> 2 weeks in. multiple kernels, nvidia worked with the edgers ppa 352 after one update everything is wrecked
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: to run smooth i would test xubuntu/lubuntu
[18:57] <Kilikit_T> I feel like I shhould just go with lubuntu
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: yeah for your needs, that will fit percetly :p
[18:58] <DJones> impi: Are you surprised? you've installed unsupported nvidia from the ppa, have you asked them how to fix?
[18:58] <f343nce> impi: ppa's are last resort use.
[18:58] <Denommus> dmcs instead of csharp works for both building and installing :-)
[18:58] <DJones> impi: This channel only supports software from the official repo's, ppa's are unofficial, and you do take your chance
[18:58] <impi> dj3000, i used the propriatry drivers in addition drivers, thats where the problems started clean install 14.04 that crashed my system
[18:59] <impi> DJones, ^^
[18:59] <Kilikit_T> just as a time saver, can anyone point me at a url for a downloadable installer to prepare a usb to load the install from? I can handle the bios boot-path stuff, just no experience iwth linux as such
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: try universal usb installer from ubuntu website
[18:59] <canine> So after setting up my apache2 website and moving it to a production droplet, I decided to disable root access. Then i logged in to ssh using a different user and overwrote index.html. Suddenly the website was showing a blank page. I did chown root on the file, but still nothing. It only worked after I rolled back the snapshot.
[18:59] <canine> Any idea why that happened?
[18:59] <f343nce> Kilikit_T: lots of usb loaders if that is the goal, check the web.
[19:00] <impi> look clean install 14.04 - additional drivers -> 331 propriatry drivers leaves you with a broken system
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> impi: did you enable internet+updates+3rd party software at ubuntu setup?
[19:00] <impi> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:00] <n00b> i have a problem with the touchpad
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> impi: so after clean install it crashed on you?
[19:01] <wakennn> is ubuntu minimal really a bare bones system? if i install GNOME3 will it become just as ubuntu non-minimal?
[19:01] <impi> yes, after clean install i install the nvidia 331  via additional drivers, broken system
[19:01] <impi> it's been downhill from there
[19:01] <tgm4883> impi: why did you clean install? It comes installed with ubuntu..
[19:01] <histo> wakennn: bare bone by ubuntu terms yes
[19:02] <n00b> anyone test snappy core??
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> impi: what was wrong with the drivers ubuntu choose at first?
[19:02] <histo> !anyone | n00b
[19:02] <wakennn> histo: what does it mean
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> n00b: check #snappy
[19:02] <impi> tgm4883, ceo ordered the laptop fron the states for me, as a gift, it landed up in south africa with windows on it
[19:02] <ahop> When doing """ifup wlan0""" on a system with / mounted as read-only (embedded computer), I get error        (no problem if / is rw)
[19:02] <n00b> lotuspsychje, you are rigth
[19:02] <f343nce> wakennn: minimal is base system no desktop, add what you like, it is a net install.
[19:02] <ahop> Do you know how to solve this?
[19:02] <ahop> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/209866/dhcp-and-read-only-root-filesystem
[19:02] <n00b> sorry, and sorry for my bad english jajaj
[19:03] <impi> lotuspsychje, it was the nevou(spelling) driver
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> impi: ok and what was wrong with nouveau?
[19:03] <tgm4883> impi: have you talked to Dell? In the past, they've had a special image for their Ubuntu offerings (although I thought that was no longer the case)
[19:03] <wakennn> f343nce: yes but if i install gnome 3 will it become just like normal ubuntu (with amazon stuff, compiz ... )?
[19:03] <impi> well, it wasn't using my gpu on my card K1100 nvidia
[19:04] <jakr> I ran Archive Manager to compress a folder into a .iso.  I got the error: The application Archive Manager has closed unexpectiedly.
[19:04] <f343nce> wakennn: gnome 3 is the gnome shell, no compiz it is not unity. Yes you will have a full gnome 3 shell if that ios what you install.
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> impi: is that an optimus card?
[19:05] <impi> tgm4883, i downloaded that image from the dell site, and have not booted with it, just installed the debs and booted into the kernel, and still not working - just doesnt use the nvidia gpu. I think I have to burn that to a disc and use that as installer somehow
[19:05] <f343nce> wakennn: Why the net install?
[19:05] <impi> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:05] <Kilikit_T> one more question guys
[19:05] <impi> the 352 open source drivers from edgers worked really well
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | impi you need this
[19:06] <wakennn> f343nce: I am coming from Arch and want to setup just what I need myself
[19:06] <impi> it was great, then i installed the latest updates, and it's messed it up bad
[19:06] <wakennn> :)
[19:06] <Kilikit_T> is there a programme for lubuntu that can save as .txt files since i will be switching between os environments fairly regular. no probs if not I guss 'cause I can just email
[19:06] <impi> lotuspsychje, i have installed that
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> impi: did you enable performance mode with nvidia-settings?
[19:07] <jakr> My error message is: "You have some obsolete package versions installed.  Please upgrade the following packages..."
[19:07] <f343nce> wakennn: Ah, however you have described will "I Have" apps from two desktops, unity is one the gnome shell the other.
[19:07] <impi> lotuspsychje, at the moment, nvidia settings tells me i am not using a nvidia card - i cant seem to get it working at all
[19:07] <xangua> jakr: and this message shows after what? what ubuntu release do you use?
[19:07] <impi> man im really disappointed - really bad show of ubuntu
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> impi: if you have the correct driver, you should be able to choose intel/nvidia
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> impi: then choose nvidia- performance mode
[19:08] <tgm4883> impi: from what it sounds like you did, I'm not 100% I'd blame Ubuntu
[19:09] <jakr> xangua, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[19:09] <wakennn> f343nce: oh sorry I didn't mean just desktops, I mean stuff like the amazon stuff, default programs like firefox etc. or if that is all done by me?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> impi: remove that ppa or bumblebee (if you installed)
[19:09] <jakr> xangua, I recieved the message after trying to compress a folder into a .iso file
[19:10] <f343nce> wakennn: the amazon stuff is part of the unity desktop. The net install is the best beyond a personal build to getting just what you want, that will be supported here. If you stay within the ubuntu repos.
[19:11] <impi> tgm4883, well just google for nvidia black screen, or login loop and then reconsidder blaming ubuntu
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Kilikit_T: just add .txt at the end of your file
[19:11] <tgm4883> impi: I'm not sure the relevance.
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> impi: there's no need to blame anything, focus on your issue
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> impi: remove your ppa and test another driver
[19:12] <f343nce> wakennn: Lots of desktop choices, all can be removed/purged as needed if you know how.
[19:12] <impi> but hang on a second
[19:12] <impi> if i go to additional drivers
[19:12] <impi> and i install the 331 propriatry driver
[19:12] <impi> will that still pull from the ppa?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> impi: its wise to not install things from ppa's
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | impi
[19:13] <wakennn> thanks f343nce
[19:14] <su> Hi, i want to get my screen at 640x480, but the lowest is 800x600. How can i get it 640x480?
[19:15] <acovrig> one question: *why*?
[19:15] <ioria> su i can lend you my monitor
[19:15] <wakennn> what is better for creating usb drives with OS install media: "dd bs=4M if=... of=..." or "dd bs=4M if=... of=... && sync" ?
[19:16] <Guest43597> hello everyone
[19:16] <stupidwolf> hello everyone
[19:16] <stupidwolf> need help here..
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !ask | stupidwolf
[19:16] <TJ-> wakennn: 'sync' just forces cached blocks to be flushed to the underlying devices immediately without waiting for the write-back cache timeout
[19:16] <f343nce> stupidwolf: Do we guess?
[19:17] <molgrum> hey i have a 100/10 fiber connection, i assume running "apt-get clean" is safe for me then?
[19:17] <wakennn> TJ-: I can do without sync ?
[19:17] <impi> lotuspsychje, tgm4883 thanks for the help, im going to try and get this thing working again
[19:17] <Bashing-om> su: 640x480 may be out of range for the hardware; From a grub prompt ' vbeinfo ' is that resolutiion shown ?
[19:17] <f343nce> wakennn: No problem, I like a gui in your last question myself. ;) love arch ran it many times
[19:17] <TJ-> wakennn: I'd keep it... it ensure if you remove the media (after sync) it has all data written to it
[19:18] <wakennn> ok thanks
[19:18] <stupidwolf> just install 15.04 dual with win8, boot animation missing only black screen,
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | stupidwolf
[19:19] <f343nce> !bootinfo | stupidwolf
[19:20] <Kilikit_T> hey here's a q for the channel. are there any linux distros that don't feature guis? I would be so into that
[19:20] <pluxev> heya, my dad has had me using ubuntu for 5+ years now. I am interested in trying other systems. What is similar to ubuntu but could potentially be better?
[19:20] <tgm4883> Kilikit_T: like Ubuntu server?
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> pluxev: ubuntu is the most popular one
[19:20] <Kilikit_T> ubuntu server hey? basically like going back to dos days for all intents and purposes?
[19:21] <tgm4883> Kilikit_T: yes, it's command line only
[19:21] <Kilikit_T> essentially I'm going to want one machine which is solely for writing
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> pluxev: maybe more a question for ##linux ?
[19:21] <v3n0m> hi
[19:22] <pluxev> k thanks
[19:22] <f343nce> pluxev: Many linux "system" are more the same than different in the base system, and the desktops are not much different. Most have what the others have in their repos.
[19:22] <stupidwolf> disable it will make boot faster isnt it?  how i do that?(soory i'm really noob)
[19:23] <v3n0m> apt-get blow up server
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> stupidwolf: make your life easy and install ubuntu single on your machine :p
[19:24] <stupidwolf> lotuspsychje : i guess you're right..  thanks dude
[19:24] <sardonyx_> anyone familiar with pure-ftpd? my users cannot upload/rename any files, and i'm not sure why
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> stupidwolf: disable fastboot and secureboot from bios, and install ubuntu clean, single will rocknroll
[19:25] <v3n0m> i am
[19:25] <molgrum> hey i just need a quick answer, if i have 100 Mbit/s down, can i apt-get clean without worries?
[19:25] <v3n0m> anyone know sting3r
[19:26] <tgm4883> molgrum: why would the speed of your connection affect the answer to that question?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> v3n0m: this channel is for ubuntu support only mate
[19:26] <sardonyx_> v3n0m: my pure-ftpd config is:  /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-virtualchroot -l puredb:/etc/pure-ftpd/pureftpd.pdb -l pam -O clf:/var/log/pure-ftpd/transfer.log -H -S 1122 -p 12000:13000 -u 1000 -E -8 UTF-8 -Y 2 -B, is anything else needed for write permissions?
[19:26] <tgm4883> ls
[19:26] <v3n0m> neermnd
[19:26] <molgrum> tgm4883: "This may not be desirable if you have a slow Internet connection, since it will cause you to redownload any packages you need to install a program." from the help ubuntu page
[19:27] <v3n0m> nevermind
[19:27] <r2c4> how do you ubuntu?
[19:27] <molgrum> tgm4883: so... i have a fast one :)
[19:27] <stupidwolf> lotuspsychje: well it's my first time using ubuntu, hope u can help me
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> stupidwolf: just make an usb stick with ubuntu 14.04 LTS and disable secureboot+fastboot in bios then boot into setup
[19:28] <bunty_> hi
[19:29] <duque> hi
[19:29] <r2c4> ayyy
[19:30] <r2c4> how come when i type on the keyboard the letters dont come up
[19:33] <duque> first time on irc, i just install ubuntu for the first time
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> duque: good choice, you have joined an ubuntu support channel to solve problems
[19:34] <unknown_user> duque: What can you say about Ubuntu?
[19:34] <Koyaanis> nice duque, how do you like it sof ar
[19:34] <kuba7447> duque, welcome to the community
[19:35] <unknown_user> duque: I mean, are you liking this distro?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> unknown_user: please dont stimulate offtopic
[19:35] <Koyaanis> All this welcoming is overwhelming for him
[19:35] <unknown_user> lotuspsychje: Sorry, it wasn't my intention.
[19:35] <duque> thanks kuba
[19:36] <Koyaanis> duque: you can write the first letters of a nickname on IRC and autofinish it with TAB
[19:36] <duque> Koyaanis nice
[19:37] <A1Recon> I ran testdisk on my New External 1 TB HDD(NTFS formatted). Here is the output for Analyse. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721133/ Can anyone check if its ok??
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: did you ask in ##hardware?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: and checked syslog and dmesg as i suggested before<?
[19:39] <kuba7447> syslog?
[19:42] <histo> A1Recon: what's wrong with it?
[19:43] <A1Recon> I asked in hardware no one responded...
[19:43] <histo> A1Recon: why are you running testdisk?
[19:45] <lukaluka> hi ~~
[19:45] <lukaluka> I just updated my 14.04, and couldn't log in anymore =.=
[19:45] <lukaluka> I found this, might be the solution to my problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/454576/cant-login-to-ubuntu-14-04-after-upgrade
[19:46] <A1Recon> histo: JUst checking if the harddrive has any problem.... Its a new harddrive
[19:47] <angela_> I'm in trouble! When I turn on the Audacious and the Hydrogen, by QJackCtl after aguns minutes it crashes because it gives error (xrun). How do I fix this? I'm using UbuntuStudio, 3.13.0-54-LowLatency kernel.
[19:47] <angela_> This has never happened before.
[19:47] <angela_> I have already put the frames to 1024 but still gives the error.
[19:47] <angela_> An error message on the jack and lock all applications, including the jack
[19:47] <angela_> I was using an updated kernel (3.19), but began to appear this problem. I thought that was the kernel and returned forthe kernel "original" version 14.4 (3.13.0-54-LowLatency)
[19:47] <angela_> Can anyone help me?
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> angela_: try previous kernel again from grub?
[19:48] <f343nce> lukaluka: Try booting from a previus kernel, number of reasons this can happen, details are the key here.
[19:49] <angela_> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:50] <angela_> lotuspsychje: yes
[19:50] <lukaluka> f343nce thanks. I need to log in recovery mode to change my home directories ownership, but I can't
[19:50] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Broken proprietary grahics driver ? Can you login to console ( at logins screen keycombo ctl+alt+F1) ?
[19:51] <lukaluka> Bashing-om that's the problem.  Reading syslog is hard. Lotsof jargon and MAC IDs, username, file locations....
[19:51] <Ben64> lukaluka: try doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-331"
[19:52] <bunty> #ubuntu-desktop
[19:52] <v3n0m> its sudo su
[19:52] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | lukaluka :: Try this :
[19:52] <lukaluka> f343nce I would say hoping XD this is the closest thread I could find, so wanna git it a try
[19:52] <v3n0m> for super user
[19:52] <MotoUnix> A1Recon: how did you read syslog ?
[19:52] <k1l> v3n0m: no its not.
[19:52] <v3n0m> yah
[19:52] <bunty> is is possible to install ubuntu desktop on my nexus 7 tablet??
[19:52] <k1l> v3n0m: use sudo -i if you really need a root shell.
[19:53] <f343nce> lukaluka: Stop that thread and lokk at the answers here, seems to most likely a graphic driver issue and just needs reloaded.
[19:53] <v3n0m> ok
[19:53] <k1l> bunty: better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[19:53] <A1Recon> typed in log in Ubuntu Search thingy..
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> bunty: for now only ubuntu-touch runs smooth on nexus7
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> bunty: try devel-proposed as i sugested you in #ubuntu-touch
[19:54] <v3n0m> kil they ot work
[19:54] <lukaluka> f343nce ok. but I can't get into any terminal to reload gpu driver
[19:54] <bunty> lotuspsychje: yes i will do that
[19:54] <ness2u> where would be a good place to ask some (newb) file-security questions?
[19:54] <lukaluka> f343nce tried to enter recovery mode, during boot up, but I can't enter recov mode too.
[19:54] <k1l> !details | v3n0m
[19:54] <A1Recon> MotoUnix: Typed in 'log' in Ubuntu search thingy
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> ness2u: if its about ubuntu, ask right here
[19:55] <v3n0m> im helpin
[19:55] <f343nce> lukaluka: boot the computer wait about 30 seconds thatn hiot ctrl-alt-f1 for a tty terminal and look at Ben64's command
[19:55] <bunty> lotuspsychje: I want to play my RTSP stream using gstreamer and that is not easily possible on ubuntu touch.
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> bunty: ask in #ubuntu-touch mate
[19:56] <bunty> ya I did
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> bunty: here we can only support ubuntu
[19:56] <bunty> I had a discussion with jhodapp for media
[19:56] <k1l> v3n0m: if so please dont give false advice
[19:56] <bunty> lotuspsychje: ok
[19:57] <lukaluka> f343nce tried. when I hit ctrl alt F1, pure black screen responds. This nvidia driver kind of not responding to c a F1, so I can't input any command
[19:57] <lukaluka> f343nce I am looking for help to get into terminal by another way, do you know how?
[19:57] <v3n0m> foward/list
[19:57] <yardlinux> could u point me to a good tutorial re dual booting win 8 and ubuntu ?
[19:58] <justicefries> anybody switch off unity to i3wm?
[19:58] <ness2u> lotuspsychje: what are the best practices regarding private certificate storage on ubuntu server? I'm a windows developer trying to conform to our security team requests...
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> justicefries: maybe the #i3 guys can help you?
[19:58] <f343nce> lukaluka: Ah, I would chroot to it from a live, if there is really no cli access, however others here can probably get you to one, this is an issue I have not had to really work on.
[19:58] <justicefries> welp, I tried #i3wm
[19:58] <Jordan_U> justicefries: Please just ask your actual question.
[19:58] <justicefries> thanks lotuspsychje :)
[19:58] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | lukaluka : Once more, try ::
[19:59] <justicefries> Jordan_U I know how IRC works, thanks, I wasn't ready with a question, was curious. :)
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot > yardlinux
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > yardlinux
[20:00] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ubottu ok, never seen that before, let me read the thread and try
[20:00] <tomeo> hi, what program could I use to see if my harddrive is working or not?
[20:01] <yardlinux> thanks ubottu and lotuspsychje
[20:01] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: K: We are here to help . read and comply and we take it from there, once you are at a terminal .
[20:01] <EricBB> if I have a lamp server with apache listening on 80 and 8010, and I go to 80 and get my www folder contents, but 8010 gives me 404 not found, what is the proble?
[20:01] <EricBB> problem*
[20:01] <A1Recon> lotuspsychje: histo: Syslog after I connected the drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721467/
[20:01] <justicefries> EricBB may be better to ask in the Apache room. :)
[20:01] <lukaluka> Bashing-om sure. Thanks for your time!
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: no errors there, try the ubuntu disktool: smart test etc
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> tomeo: same for you mate, try the ubuntu disktool and run some tests
[20:04] <A1Recon> lotuspsychje: the disk doesn't support SMART tests.... Tried badblocks it would take around 6 hrs to complete with the -v flag.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: All modern drives support S.M.A.R.T. It's *possible* that your USB enclosure doesn't support passing on S.M.A.R.T. commands, but even that is unlikely.
[20:06] <RoBo_V> Guys, best way to schedule auto wake up ?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> RoBo_V: you mean wake up on lan from bios?
[20:10] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, to my understanding, I need to modify grub config file. The problem I am having right now is that I can't get into my grub boot menu by pressing SHIFT  during boot up because my GRUB is set to hide the OS selection menu on boot by default.
[20:11] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721514/ Output for only the /dev/sdb
[20:11] <lukaluka> ubottu thanks for your link. I can't modify grub config file in my case. Can't access grub boot menu because it is hidden by default.
[20:11] <RoBo_V> lotuspsychje: that is already happening, i mean to schedule wakeup from rtc within system
[20:11] <RoBo_V> possible ?
[20:11] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://askubuntu.com/questions/507434/grub-boot-menu-not-available-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-msi-ge-60
[20:11] <bekzhan> HI
[20:12] <RoBo_V> lotuspsychje: oh yea i can also schedule wakeonlan from other server
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> RoBo_V: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61708/automatically-sleep-and-wake-up-at-specific-times
[20:13] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: The thing is my /dev/sda has got some badblocks.... I want to copy all the data from the 2(NTFS) of the 3 partitions of my internal HDD to the new external one. Before starting the copying process i just want to see if the /dev/sdb1 is ok or not...
[20:13] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Despite its name, testdisk is *not* a tool for checking disks. It's a tool for recovering files and fixing partition tables.
[20:14] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: So I have to run badblocks then??
[20:14] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: If you really want to be thorough, yes.
[20:14] <RoBo_V> thanks lotuspsychje
[20:15] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: The last time I ran Analyse in testdisk for /dev/sdb1 I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721133/
[20:15] <histo> A1Recon: testdisk is not the right tool for checking your drive
[20:15] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Please pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb".
[20:17] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: I am back, and lookin at your reference .
[20:17] <lukaluka> Bashing-om thank ~
[20:17] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb1" output http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721560/
[20:18] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Please run commands exactly as given.
[20:18] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Again, testdisk is *not* a tool for testing disks. Those errors are related to the process of recovering deleted partitions, a process that you don't need to do and is thus not at all relevant.
[20:19] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: OK, Is your system UEFI ?
[20:19] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: OK got it about testdisk
[20:19] <histo> A1Recon: western digital has diagnostic utilities available to check yoru disk use those. If you are worried. You do realize the failure rate is extermely low on new hardware. Seems to me like a waste of time.
[20:20] <lukaluka> Bashing-om a ha, I don't know what is UEFI, let me google that for a sec
[20:20] <histo> A1Recon: selecting an appropriate backup and restoration plan for the data would be a better use of time then relying on some tool you don't understand how to use.
[20:20] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: /dev/sdb1 is the external HDD. If I run sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb, I get this "/dev/sdb: Unknown USB bridge [0x1058:0x0820 (0x1012)] Please specify device type with the -d option."
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !uefi | lukaluka
[20:23] <whoawostb> What is the correct way to disable compositing in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"?
[20:23] <macskay> how can i get "perf" back for my 3.13 kernel back?
[20:23] <macskay> It's not in the linux tools
[20:24] <A1Recon> histo: OK histo, tell me this. A few years ago, when I tried to copy data from a bad HDD to a flashdrive, the Windows gave me "Cyclic Redundancy Error" and exited. I think Ubuntu's simple copy and paste would do that too. Is it possible to copy bit by bit whatever is there on the internal HDD's 2 partitions to the 2 separate folders on the external HDD? I don't care if there's some error, just it shouldn't stop copying midway. Is the
[20:25] <histo> A1Recon: you can use ddrescue to recovery data from failing drives.
[20:25] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: /dev/sdb1 is not a device node for a drive, it's a device node for the first partition on a drive. While smartctl is smart enough to figure out what you actually mean when you pass it a partition, but I'm very surprised to see it refuse "/dev/sdb", so much so that I'm thinking that you simply mistyped something. Please run "sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdb" and pastebin the full output, copying the portion of your ...
[20:25] <Jordan_U> ... terminal showing the command as well.
[20:26] <histo> Jordan_U: it's an external drive probably something with western digitals silly usb interface causing all sorts of havoc
[20:26] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ubuntu is my sole OS on that pc, and I use automatic installer " Erase the disk and install", would that grant me UEFI system?
[20:27] <lukaluka> Bashing-om or any info useful I can provide?
[20:27] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721651/
[20:28] <histo> A1Recon: so are you still trying to recover data from the failing drive from "A few years ago" or what are you asking??
[20:28] <bagginsDK> hello, i don't know how to install oracle DB. I saw a tutorial asking for Kernel changes and i don't want to go so deep. Is there any simpler way?
[20:29] <Semiarty> so... I've been playing around and I was reading a guide on how to get ubuntu servers IP static and I deleted DHCP-client, now I want to get it back, but I have no connection to the internet and thus have to do it manually, I downloaded dhcp client and transfered it onto my usb flash, I'm trying to install dhcp-client and I am getting errors---> "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration
[20:29] <Semiarty> of isc-dhcp-client: isc-dhcp-client depends on isc-dhcp-common (=4.1.ESV-R4-Oubuntu5.5); however: Version of isc-dhcp-common on system is 4.2.4-7ubuntu12.2. and "isc-dhcp-client depends on iproute; however: package iproute is not installed"
[20:29] <A1Recon> histo: No I just gave you an example of what happened all those years ago. Now I just want to get the data from my Laptop's internal HDD to the external HDD.
[20:29] <Semiarty> so as far as I understand something does not match up, as in version, but I am not sure on how to proceed next
[20:30] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: No, UEFI is a firmware interface of the mainboard system to that of the operating system. That firmware is already set . Now how you access grub is depebdent on that tupe of firmware .
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Semiarty  seems to me, you have to install iproute, first
[20:31] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: That is bizarre. This post: http://superuser.com/questions/482404/check-ssd-health-without-using-smart shows that some drives support S.M.A.R.T. but claim not to, and your drive might be one of these. Even if S.M.A.R.T. can be made to work with this drive/enclosure I would return it as defective for not supporting it properly. If it can't be made to support S.M.A.R.T. then you should definitely return it.
[20:32] <A1Recon> histo: Reading from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery there are 2 ddrescue programs, are you talking about the GNU ddrescue or just the ddrescue?
[20:32] <impi> yeh, something is definitely wrong with ubuntu 14.04 and nvidia 331 (propriatry/tested) drivers
[20:33] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, if I enter BIOS,  I could see my boot mode is set to be legacy + UEFI, and ubuntu is in my first boot option: UEFI Hard Disk: ubuntu
[20:33] <impi> clean install, install this driver from the additional drivers screen and after reboot i get "system running in low graphics mode"
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> impi: did you install nvidia-prime after?
[20:34] <impi> lotuspsychje, no - just clean install and the propriatry driver
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> impi: we talked about this earlier mate, if your card is optimus you need nvidia-prime package
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> impi: then enable performance mode from nvidia-settings
[20:35] <impi> mmm ill try install it, but i mean the basics dont work
[20:35] <impi> no otherway to put it
[20:36] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: K; Making progress; OK UEFI syste, ! Access grub : Reboot, and as soon as the setup screen clears, repeatedly depress and release the escape key ( only a 3 second window of oportunity). Now do you get the grub menu ?
[20:36] <Semiarty> MonkeyDust doesn't work: "iproute conflicts with arpd; iproute provides arpd and is present and installed. dpkg: error processing archive iproute...deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing iproute"
[20:36] <lukaluka> Bashing-om in there right now
[20:36] <f343nce> impi: The basics are understanding what your doing and told, and remembering.
[20:37] <impi> no the basics is activating an additional driver, and rebooting to a graphical interface
[20:37] <impi> error free at least
[20:37] <impi> thats the basics.
[20:38] <f343nce> impi: If you stay in that mind set you will continuosly need help, you have to do some research on the hardware and software.
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> impi: your card has optimus technology and the nvidia card needs to be enabled with nvidia-prime
[20:39] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: With the top most ubuntu kernel selected, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot options screen; arrow down to the line starting with linux, arrow across to quiet splash, replace "quiet splash" with the term nomodeset. Key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process, Do you now boot to the GUI ?
[20:39] <impi> then there should be a notice at that driver screen that says - please install nvidia prime otherwise your laptop will be borked after a reboot
[20:39] <whoawostb> If I turn off compositing in xorg.conf, is it normal to get logged right out and sent right back to login screen after logging in?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> impi: every card is different, thats not ubuntu's fault
[20:42] <impi> your missing the point, thats the job of the operating system to support these cards
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> impi: drivers react different on different hardwaren not the Os fault
[20:43] <Jordan_U> impi: This channel is not for reporting bugs, and trying to do so will only waste time as your reuests will never make it to developers. Please stick to productive support discussion in this channel.
[20:43] <Jordan_U> !bug | impi
[20:43] <lukaluka> Bashing-om yes, right now
[20:44] <impi> i feel that after buying a 3K laptop, which is built and punted as ubuntu ready that this should not be the outcome
[20:44] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705098.pdf It does support SMART but something is up with WD's Enclosure or USB implementation.
[20:44] <impi> im all for loggin bugs, but if you go and look there are duplicates upon duplicates of this very bug
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> impi: you can check sudo lshw -C video to check wich driver loaded and wich card active
[20:44] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Right ; OK, we need a terminal .. what results with key combo ctl+alt+F1 ?
[20:45] <lukaluka> Bashing-om give me a sec
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> impi: just try nvidia-prime, switch drivers and enable performance mode
[20:46] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Again, I would return it as defective.
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> impi: best driver, is the one working best for your card
[20:46] <impi> im going to try that definitely, im sure you are right
[20:47] <lukaluka> Bashing-om I boot into not so GUI interface. It's more terminal like. I can see ubuntu login: _
[20:47] <A1Recon> Jordan_U: What is the command to check SMART status? Also put in the flags
[20:47] <impi> it's just 2 weeks in, 3 installs, multiple kernels, multiple drivers, nvidia-prime, black screen bug, low graphics mode errors - at some point you get to where i am now which is a little irritated by the mission
[20:47] <lukaluka> Bashing-om then I log in, now I am in the terminal. ^^
[20:49] <Jordan_U> impi: That doesn't change the fact that continuing to rant about it here doesn't get any bug closer to being fixed, but does waste our time. Please stop.
[20:49] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: OK, now we want to know what the hardware is . To pass that info we ned to install a tool . do: ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' .
[20:50] <impi> Jordan_U, the only reason your time is being wasted is because you dont admit this is a bug
[20:50] <impi> it's this then that, then this
[20:50] <lukaluka> Bashing-om oh, god... somehow wifi is broken now... give me a sec
[20:51] <Jordan_U> impi: I never said that it wasn't a bug. This is your last warning, stop this and any other unproductive discussion.
[20:51] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: No hurry . ( got access to a wired connection ?)
[20:52] <lukaluka> Bashing-om let me grab my 40 ft ethernet cable orz
[20:53] <histo> A1Recon: just copy the data to it then, use rsync or whatever you want
[20:54] <histo> A1Recon: as far as ddrescue you want the gddrescue version if you ever have to use it.
[20:56] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Panic not. Just proceed in a calm and orderly fashion.
[20:56] <Semiarty> I am trying to do: sudo apt-get install dhcp-client and I get message: "Package dhcp-client is a virtual package provided by: isc-dhcp-client 4.2.4-7ubuntu12.2. ; pump 0.8.24-7 ;  dhcpcd5 6.05-1.1 ; You should explicitly select one to install. ; E: Package 'dhcp-client' has no installation candidate". How and what version do I choose to explicitly select to install?
[20:57] <lukaluka> Bashing-om sure. Thanks. the package is installed now
[20:58] <Pici> Semiarty: isc-dhcp-client is the one normally installed.
[20:59] <A1Recon> histo: Thinking about using grsync .... What does the Windows compatibility option do?
[20:59] <A1Recon> histo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[20:59] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: OK, terminal command 'sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit' the result is a URL , pass that complete URL back here . We see what it is we are dealing with to advise better .
[21:00] <histo> A1Recon: windows compatibiltiy option is probably for timestamp comparisons
[21:01] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721811
[21:02] <histo> A1Recon: FAT uses a 2 second resolution for time stamps.  So you can tell rsync to accept values that are off by up to a second so it doesn't think the files differ.
[21:02] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721811 .
[21:02] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: IMO, that sure doesn't show much... but nvidia?!?!
[21:03] <lukaluka> Bashing-om yes?
[21:03] <lukaluka> Bashing-om looking like the motherboard didnt recognize my GPU?
[21:04] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: zykotick9 Yeah, bit it so show there is no driver loaded . lukaluka ; next pastebin 'lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit' so we know the graphics set up .
[21:06] <lukaluka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721842/
[21:06] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721842/
[21:07] <A1Recon> histo: Apparently rsync fails to get corrupted files but  but .... here's the best part ... it outputs the error files in a log. So the plan is to run Grsync, see what files are missing or were not copied.... and go after those files using specific programs for file recovery. Good enough??
[21:08] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: lukaluka fyi debian's judd pciid pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721855/
[21:09] <histo> A1Recon: I thought we weren't doing file recovery. You said you just wanted to copy the files.
[21:10] <v3n0m> can you get day z
[21:10] <A1Recon> histo: Copy files, yes. Some files might be corrupted so file recovery, too.
[21:10] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: checking that http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721855/ !! lukaluka .
[21:11] <histo> A1Recon: How did the files get corrupted?
[21:11] <lukaluka> zykotick9 Bashing-om yes I saw~~ though I don't know how to make use of it ~
[21:12] <lukaluka> zykotick9 Bashing-om enlighten me plz XD
[21:12] <zykotick9> lukaluka: at least judd recognizes it as an nvidia GM200 [GeForce GTX TITAN X] i have zero suggestions on gettin' it working, sorry.  best of luck!
[21:13] <lukaluka> zykotick9 no problem. Thanks
[21:13] <histo> A1Recon: I have to go but perhaps if you state your problem clearly other people can help.
[21:13] <histo> !details | A1Recon
[21:14] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: zykotick9 :: getting into deep waters here myself, twin Nvidia cards .. is this a SLI situation ?
[21:16] <lukaluka> Bashing-om zykotick9  I do attach SLI link to connect them, but it's not necessary. I could take it off. if that would help. But... you think the reason that I couldn't log in after update is caused by proprietary GPU driver?
[21:17] <A1Recon> histo: Ran SMART test on the internal HDD of my Laptop one day using the "Disks". Just checking what SMART TESTs were. Lo and behold SMART tests failed. Then googled and ran badblocks, it spit out 12 bad blocks. Further confirmation was when I booted up Windows, and it started running CHKDSK utility and it "recovered" some files and put it in a folder called "found.000" in NewVolume (First data partition in my HDD). [Part 1/2 because
[21:17] <AmazonianDude> How do I check my Ubuntu 14.04 HDD for bad sectors?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: While we ponder : How did you install the drivers . PPA ? show ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit ' . // as of now there is no graphics driver installed, and we must install one to drive the GUI .
[21:18] <badbodh> AmazonianDude, fsck them
[21:19] <lukaluka> Bashing-om I install drive from here. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/84043/en-us
[21:19] <badbodh> 'man fsck' for details in terminal
[21:20] <AmazonianDude> Yes but is it possible to do it while the HDD is logged into ubuntu or do I do it from a live cd
[21:20] <lukaluka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721896/
[21:20] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721896/
[21:21] <lukaluka> Bashing-om but  i did install drivers for sure. otherwise I wont be able to use nvidia CUDA
[21:22] <A1Recon> histo: I figured Windows has a bad track record for failing HDDs, so I stopped booting up my Windows(Ubuntu - Win 7 Dual Boot). I haven't gone back to Windows boot after that. Don't mount New Volume unless absolutely necessary and I haven't written anything in that partition. Fast forward to today. Got my HDD. Wanted to check whether its fine (hence the badblocks, testdisk, etc. talk a few hrs ago). And here I am reading up on rsync
[21:22] <A1Recon> histo: Part 2/2 ^
[21:22] <badbodh> AmazonianDude, live
[21:23] <A1Recon> histo: Was that summary sufficient?
[21:23] <RoBo_V> IDK my server waking up auto every morning 5.30, how to diagnose it ?
[21:23] <badbodh> AmazonianDude, data drives can be repaired in normal boot, root drive better repaired from live
[21:23] <lukaluka> Bashing-om the process of installing driver is via the scrip download from that nvidia link, all the internal procedures are hidden from me.
[21:24] <A1Recon> histo is long gone...
[21:24] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: What happened is that there was a kernel upgrade, now that Nvidia driver was built against the old kernel, and the driver broke when the kernel was upgraded, There is no PPA involved here so it is back to the Nvidia installer to re-install the driver againt the new kernel. Does the Nvidia .run file still exist ? show ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" | pastebinit ' .
[21:26] <lukaluka> Bashing-om empty document
[21:26] <guest8574> I love Ubuntu. It has no bugs! http://tinyurl.com/nln3h52
[21:27] <AmazonianDude> badbodh: i don't trust ubuntu's upgrading mechanism anymore. Last time I tried doing an upgrade through the update manager it booted into a black screen and rendered unusable. was able to rescue data, and reinstall ubuntu on same drive.
[21:27] <lukaluka> Bashing-om so you suggest I reinstall the nvidia driver?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Humm .. makes no sense, does not compure, let me double check my command syntax . and while i do .. what returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | pastebinit ' .
[21:28] <Bashing-om> compute*
[21:29] <badbodh> AmazonianDude, in grub > advanced/other boot options select an older kernel. ubuntu does mess up updates :D don't update things like kernel,xorg,video card drivers
[21:29] <AmazonianDude> So you're saying canonical releases a flawed OS.
[21:30] <lukaluka> Bashing-om empty string again, let me check if it's my typo
[21:30] <guest8574> AmazonianDude: It's beyond flawed.
[21:31] <Panasonic> so, I had the same problem listed in two bugs on launchpad, someone can take a look?
[21:31] <lukaluka> Bashing-om no typo
[21:32] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: I can not imigine why there would now be no Nvidia files existent on the system . any return ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[21:32] <Panasonic> its ok to post the link to the bugs here or should put them in paste?
[21:32] <AmazonianDude> guest8574: Should not be released to the general public until they can fix the ubuntu messing up updates problem
[21:32] <k1l> AmazonianDude: ubuntu got automated testings for the upgrades. so if it breaks for you there might be some hardware or package issue which is not a general issue,
[21:32] <AmazonianDude> Ah then nvm. That makes sense.
[21:32] <lukaluka> Bashing-om no... empty.
[21:33] <AmazonianDude> Well brb. Fsck'ing.
[21:33] <k1l> AmazonianDude: and where does the updates issue relate to your drive having bad sectors?
[21:33] <lukaluka> Bashing-om but I did install 349.16 driver before
[21:34] <k1l> and btw did his "ubuntu broke the update" like a "i want the latest video driver so i load stuff from some website that breaks on a new kernel"
[21:34] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Sheeeshh .. I have no clue why the Nvidia files are removed. OK, once more from the Nvidia site, .... (RE-)install the driver .
[21:36] <lukaluka> Bashing-om aha, ok, on the way~
[21:37] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: K. I am here on pins and needles . Just Have never ever encountered where Nvidia driver was installed, and just up and disappears !
[21:38] <lukaluka> Bashing-om XD, let's proceed in calm and ordered fashion XD
[21:39] <lukaluka> Bashing-om dl ing driver
[21:41] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, the problem is there still an x server running on the back, so I am going to get into recovery mode and, install driver there
[21:41] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: lukaluka just a sidenote/fyi, but #debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721965/
[21:42] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Try .. If unity .. ' sudo service lightdm stop ' (14.04) will stop X .
[21:42] <acz32> what's a good update notifier for kde?
[21:42] <nomic> for system updates?
[21:43] <nomic> cron
[21:43] <nomic> ?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: I can use a chuckle at this point .
[21:43] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ;)
[21:44] <lukaluka> zykotick9 hahah, I agree.
[21:44] <RoBo_V> hey guys my rtc is off then why system waking up every morning 5.30 ?
[21:45] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: That is a fact ! Always try and use inhouse resources when possible .. But but with SLI, best I recall we have no support for SLI .
[21:45] <lukaluka> Bashing-om Err: your kernel headers for kernel 3.16.0-40-generic can't be found.
[21:46] <lukaluka> Bashing-om and the install scrip suggest me install that header package, should I?
[21:47] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: What have you done ??? .. PK, let's look at the header situation . ' ls -al /usr/src/ | pasteninit ' . We fix !
[21:48] <lukaluka> Bashing-om I was running driver install scripts only...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721997/
[21:49] <AmazonianDude> Can you run a bad sectors test from a live cd
[21:49] <AmazonianDude> or can that safely be done from the actual CD
[21:49] <AmazonianDude> Err install
[21:49] <leafybasil> Hey all. I'm running ubuntu on a macbookpro10,1 and under ubuntu audio works fine.  When I boot into DWM I lose audio, if I load alsamixer and I plug in/unplug my headphones I see the mixers change, but neither outputs any audio can anyone help?
[21:49] <k1l> AmazonianDude: still: live cd/usb
[21:50] <lost> hi im looking to see if anyone can help me im trying to make a bootable usb of tails i have it downloaded and ive tried a few things and unseccessful
[21:50] <AmazonianDude> "Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda1. You must have r/w access to the filesystem
[21:51] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: "Always try and use inhouse resources when possible" <- I couldn't agree more  "But but with SLI..." <- I've not zero knowledge/experience, so as I mentioned to lukaluka, i've got nothin'.  good luck.
[21:51] <AmazonianDude> Nevermind. Was forgetting the sudo command, my mistake
[21:52] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Me too ! But I am going to wade into this and get my feet real wet ! lukaluka Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11721997/ .
[21:52] <lukaluka> Bashing-om yes , I didn't see 0-40 too, should I have one?
[21:53] <Fun> whats the easiest way to reside disk that uses lvm?
[21:53] <AmazonianDude> sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1 to be exact. Ubuntu manual says not to run badblocks directly
[21:54] <AmazonianDude> Fun: reside disk?
[21:54] <Fun> partition
[21:54] <Fun> sorry :D
[21:56] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Humm .. Wonder what the installer is doing .. There sure is no -40 header .. ok, back to the 1st rule when installing. Make sure we are fully updated. do ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[21:56] <Jordan_U> !smart | AmazonianDude
[21:57] <lukaluka> Bashing-om running
[21:58] <leafybasil> Is there a way to stop audio playing from both speakers and headphones?
[21:59] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11722035/
[22:00] <lukaluka> Bashing-om it skipped 40, haha. Should I go ahead and run install script?
[22:00] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, same error msg
[22:01] <lukaluka> Bashing-om let me try long lived version of driver. 352.21
[22:03] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Is the .run file on the system ? ' ./Nvidiawhatever.run --uninstall (must be cd'd to the directory/location) .
[22:03] <lukaluka> Bashing-om yes, let me try that
[22:04] <lukaluka> Bashing-om done
[22:04] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: If we can run --uninstall, we can start all over from scratch .
[22:04] <lukaluka> Bashing-om it's done.
[22:05] <lukaluka> Bashing-om how should we proceed from scratch
[22:06] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' .
[22:07] <lukaluka> Bashing-om empty
[22:08] <whoawostb> Is it normal to get immediately logged out and brought back to login screen after turning off compositing in xorg.conf and rebooting and then logging in?
[22:09] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: K ; no return then we can download from Nvidia once more . From the start .
[22:11] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, do you recommend long live or short live version?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Lemme have a bit to look at what Nvidis recommends .. be back soonest .
[22:12] <lukaluka> Bashing-om thanks for your time
[22:15] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Let's see what results with the long live release .
[22:16] <lukaluka> Bashing-om on it
[22:17] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ok, same error msg. I guess nvidia really want me to be 0-40-generic
[22:17] <lukaluka> Bashing-om though I don't know why
[22:17] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Ehen ya get a break, out of curiosity, what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[22:19] <lukaluka> Bashing-om they only return my wifi card driver from broadcom,
[22:20] <lukaluka> Bashing-om no sign of GPU driver
[22:23] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Not real surprised at no return on the driver searchs . As to -40 kernel what returns ' apt-cache show linux-image-3.16.0-40-generic' ?
[22:24] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11722111/
[22:24] <[Saint]> Somewhat of an odd request, but, is there any way that I can disable automatic decryption of ~ on local password logins?
[22:25] <[Saint]> As per, say, ssh key based login.
[22:25] <[Saint]> tl;dr: I would like it to prompt for decryption every time regardless of the login method
[22:27] <v3n0m> who is stig3r
[22:27] <v3n0m> sting3r
[22:27] <samer> hello
[22:28] <lukaluka> Bashing-om fyi, this happened once before when I was using 15.04.  I didin't know IRC then, so end up reinstall 14.04. till this morning update breaks my system again.
[22:29] <[Saint]> breaks how?
[22:30] <lukaluka> [Saint] after update I can't login anymore. type in pwd and return to original login window, infinite loop.
[22:31] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Humm .. you are using 14.04 and yet you have utopic's kernel ?
[22:32] <[Saint]> lukaluka: have you tried dropping into single user mode?
[22:32] <lukaluka> Bashing-om  I don't understand, beyond my linux understanding XD
[22:33] <lukaluka> [Saint] not yet. now Bashing-om  is working with me, try to nail what's going wrong
[22:34] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: We will work through this . The latest kernel for 14.04 : sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-54-generic .
[22:34] <[Saint]> Hold shift during boot, press 'e' to edit the boot commands, append 'single' after 'quiet splash' in the boot params (these changes aren't persistent), press F10 to boot, and see if it'll let you login in a purely text based environment.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: a) the -40 kernel is available. b) what is on your system ' ls -al /boot ' ? c) what are you booting ' uname -r " ?
[22:38] <lukaluka> Bashing-om b) 11722155 c) 3.16.0-40-generic ..... now I am really confused... I do have -40?
[22:39] <lukaluka> [Saint] we just replaced spash to nomodeset, and in text env for a while ~
[22:41] <SchrodingersScat> AmazonianDude: e2fsck doesn't check drives for bad sectors?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: 11722155 ?? get " paste.ubuntu.com/11722155/ - did not match any documents." .
[22:42] <lukaluka> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/11722155/
[22:42] <lukaluka> Bashing-om mn? that link works for me, can you see?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Do not know what I did formerly wrong. Yeah the -40 kernel is there, but a later one is availabale, let's reboot, and go through the 'nomodeset' routine once mre and see if we now come up on the -41 kernel (uname -r ).
[22:44] <dgarstang> Upstart... I want to write an upstart job, but since there's no daemon running, when I call stop it fails. How can upstart handle that?
[22:44] <lukaluka> Bashing-om k, on it
[22:45] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Nother thought .. get some operating head room (??) let's remove those old no-longer-needed kernels ; ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' .
[22:46] <Kilikit_T> in language settings during install, what's the difference between extended winkeys, intenrationioal with dead kets, and bog standard english uk
[22:46] <lukaluka> Bashing-om done both. we got 41 after uname -r
[22:47] <dgarstang> Upstart... I want to write an upstart job, but since there's no daemon running, when I call stop it fails. How can upstart handle that?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Wow that was fast . OK, what do we have Nvidia on the system ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[22:49] <lukaluka> Bashing-om empty
[22:50] <lukaluka> Bashing-om wanna try install long live driver this time?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: That do blow me away that Nvidia does not exist . OK, again download from Nvidia and see what happens now . And yeah the long live version .
[22:51] <[Saint]> Kilikit_T: different keyboard layouts, with or without certain elements - ask Google about the (largely subtle) differences. If you're unsure which option to choose, it can detect which keyboard to use by way of asking you to type in specific samples and answering a few simple questions.
[22:51] <[Saint]> Though pretty much everything these days in just En-US QWERTY in my experience.
[22:53] <lukaluka> Bashing-om install succeed
[22:53] <lukaluka> Bashing-om reboot?
[22:57] <Kilikit_T> thank you, aplty named saint
[22:57] <[Saint]> Not a problem my friend.
[22:58] <dgarstang> Upstart... I want to write an upstart job, but since there's no daemon running, when I call stop it fails. How can upstart handle that?
[23:01] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Yeah ! let's reboot at this time and see if ya come up normally to the GUI .
[23:02] <lukaluka> Bashing-om the os back to normal now ~ I can log in just like old days XD
[23:03] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Outstanding ! .. We do have lift off !
[23:04] <dgarstang> Upstart... I want to write an upstart job, but since there's no daemon running, when I call stop it fails. How can upstart handle that?
[23:04] <teward> dgarstang: if there's no daemon running, it can't.
[23:04] <lukaluka> Bashing-om yeah ~~ so basically we do reinstall gpu driver, update os, and remove some packages, really thanks for your time!
[23:04] <teward> dgarstang: what is your use case for the upstart job?
[23:05] <dgarstang> teward: job to add ec2 instances's IP to DNS on boot, and remove it on shutdown. Or... another to add a node to chef server on boot, and remove on shutdown.
[23:05] <lukaluka> Bashing-om I learned a new way to get into terminal XD can I ask you one more question? what IRC client are you using?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: Hey, glad to help. Be aware, each time the kernel is upgraded, will have to (RE-)install the graphics driver .
[23:06] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: My client is irssi . fast, light, and configuarable .
[23:07] <lukaluka> Bashing-om will def give it a try. and do you recommend me upgrade to 15.04?
[23:07] <dgarstang> teward: It seems that upstart is not capable of managing startup/shutdown jobs that don't spawn daemons.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: I am not a proponent of non LTS releases, except for testing and/or hardware issues. irssi : see: http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html .
[23:09] <lukaluka> Bashing-om fair enough. Let me install irssi now XD thanks for your time!
[23:10] <Bashing-om> lukaluka: You will pass it own . We are open source ... 1 for all and all for one .
[23:11] <lukaluka> Bashing-om ^^
[23:13] <dgarstang> So, since it seems that upstart isn't able to handle stopping scripts that don't have daemons, what other options might I ahve to run a job on shutdown? Old fashioned system V init?
[23:16] <[Saint]> dgarstang: cron
[23:17] <[Saint]> dgarstang: or....actually, hmmm.
[23:18] <[Saint]> You could play with /etc/rc6.d/
[23:18] <[Saint]> I _think_ runlevel 6 is shutdown, but, don't quote me on it.
[23:18] <EriC^^> i think 0 is
[23:18] <[Saint]> Hmmm.
[23:19] <EriC^^> somebody google
[23:19] <[Saint]> AH, you're right.
[23:19] <[Saint]> 6 is restart.
[23:19] <[Saint]> 0 is shutdown.
[23:19] <[Saint]> Thanks, EriC^^
[23:19] <bazhang> !runlevel
[23:20] <[Saint]> Well, that was rather useless. Thanks, ubottu. ;p
[23:21] <Ranger15> Has anyone had good luck at all with Intel 7260 wifi/bluetooth card on 15.04?
[23:22] <itaylor57> Ranger15: working here
[23:22] <Ranger15> I have one and it disappears on suspend. lspci gone.     Or Stops working after along idle time.
[23:23] <Ranger15> I have tried a few different firmware versions.
[23:23] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  no problems at all?
[23:23] <itaylor57> none
[23:24] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  are you on 15.04?
[23:24] <itaylor57> yes
[23:24] <Ranger15> cool
[23:24] <Ranger15> what firmware version?
[23:24] <itaylor57> no idea
[23:24] <Ranger15> one sec i will get the command, if you dont mind
[23:25] <itaylor57> sure
[23:25] <Ranger15> do mind ?
[23:25] <itaylor57> i do not mind
[23:25] <Ranger15> dont want to bug you
[23:25] <itaylor57> not a problem
[23:25] <Ranger15> k brb
[23:30] <regedit> please help! 15.04 here, I accidentally my /etc/default/grub :(
[23:31] <regedit> i have a whole UEFI setup, does that mean that file had special non-default settings in it?
[23:31] <neonixcoder> Good day all. I am trying to install an Option modem module in Ubuntu 14.04 by using dkms..
[23:32] <neonixcoder> I am able to add module using "dkms –ldtarball --archive=hso-1.x.x.tar.gz"
[23:32] <neonixcoder> And I can see installed module by using "dkms status"
[23:33] <itaylor57> Ranger15: firmware=<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:33] <neonixcoder> but when I try to build module by using "dkms build –m hso –v 1.10.0" I am getting HSO can not be handled..
[23:33] <neonixcoder> Any suggestions team?
[23:34] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  how did you get that?
[23:34] <Ranger15> man i have done this so many times i can figure it out this time.
[23:34] <itaylor57> http://askubuntu.com/questions/372044/what-firmware-is-my-wireless-card-is-using
[23:36] <Ranger15> itaylor57,   <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:37] <Ranger15> same as you
[23:37] <Ranger15> strange
[23:37] <Ranger15> and that was the first command I ran but just was in to much of hurry to grep for firmware.. oh well
[23:38] <Ranger15> itaylor57, what kernal you running?
[23:38] <Ranger15> uname -a
[23:38] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  3.19.0-20-generic     for me
[23:39] <itaylor57> well that just changed today 3.19.0-21-generic
[23:39] <platzhirsch> There was a problem during do-release-upgrade, it seems to be still running how can I attach to the window again? (I am sshing)
[23:40] <Ranger15> hmm
[23:40] <[Saint]> remote release upgrade.
[23:40] <[Saint]> ...someone's keen.
[23:41] <Ranger15> I am going to read about the 20 to 21 difference's.
[23:41] <[Saint]> platzhirsch: unless you happened to be running it in screen I'm not entirely confident you even /can/.
[23:41] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  but you have been running it for awhile with the card right
[23:41] <itaylor57> Ranger15: i had no issues on the previous kernel
[23:41]  * [Saint] runs all his ssh sessions in screen for precisely this reason
[23:41] <Ranger15> thats what I thought
[23:42] <Ranger15> what kind of hardware? if you dont mind me asking
[23:42] <[Saint]> If you're using screen it is really trivial to reattach a detached head.
[23:42] <[Saint]> Without it...dunno man.
[23:42] <Ranger15> I have system76 laptop
[23:42] <itaylor57> i am on a system 76 laptop
[23:42] <Ranger15> whoa
[23:43] <itaylor57> glago ultrapro
[23:43] <itaylor57> galogo
[23:43] <platzhirsch> [Saint]: yeah but it looked like it started a screen session anyway
[23:43] <Ranger15> k wierd thats freaky
[23:43] <itaylor57> can't seem to type
[23:44] <[Saint]> platzhirsch: you can check pretty easily
[23:44] <Ranger15> I just got there low end one but maxed it all out. Lemur with 16G ram 256ssd w.1TB ata
[23:44] <[Saint]> platzhirsch: do "screen -ls"
[23:44] <Ranger15> Maybe the hardware and the card dont like each other.
[23:46] <[Saint]> platzhirsch: if there is a detached session running, you can force it to reattach by (I /think/) "screen -d -r"
[23:46] <Ranger15> itaylor57,  I have had the issue since day one. And have been working Make and S76 to fix it. Nothing yet has helped
[23:46] <Ranger15> at S76
[23:46] <platzhirsch> [Saint]: thanks
[23:47] <[Saint]> Ah, sorry, its 'screen -D'
[23:47] <[Saint]> Glargh, nope, I was right the first time.
[23:47] <[Saint]> Whoops.
[23:47] <[Saint]> Either way the first step is checking if there's acutally an available session to reattach.
[23:48] <platzhirsch> I think I broke it lol
[23:48] <Ranger15> itaylor57, I get rfkill hard block after suspend. Like a physical switch has been turned off. But there is no switch.
[23:48] <[Saint]> screen -list or screen -ls will tell you if there's a session available.
[23:48] <[Saint]> platzhirsch: I must say you're mighty confident for doing a remote relase upgrade, lol.
[23:48] <platzhirsch> [Saint]: how else would you do an upgrade of a VPS? :D
[23:48] <[Saint]> I'm not meaning to laugh at your misfortune. Sorry.
[23:49] <platzhirsch> it's fine, nothing on that server
[23:49] <EriC^^> platzhirsch: you're doing a do-release-upgrade?
[23:49] <[Saint]> Generally speaking, I don't. I just drop out ~ and my configs and spin up a new instance.
[23:49] <platzhirsch> EriC^^: yes
[23:50] <EriC^^> platzhirsch: what version are you currently running?
[23:50] <platzhirsch> 13.04
[23:50] <EriC^^> ok, did you fix the sources.list ?
[23:51] <platzhirsch> no
[23:51] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | platzhirsch
[23:51] <EriC^^> platzhirsch: you'll have to upgrade to 13.10 first, then 14.04
[23:51] <platzhirsch> I think that was what is was doing. In any case I need to rebuild the partition now anyway :)
[23:52] <EriC^^> rebuild the partition?
[23:52] <[Saint]> You basically just told him what he was already doing in a more convoluted fashion.
[23:53] <EriC^^> [Saint]: making sure he knows he has to upgrade to 13.10 first, and the sources.list are required
[23:53] <Flynn> Could anyone help me with a screen brightness problems? I've tried everything and if my charging cable is not plugged in, my screen dims after 10 seconds of no movement without fail. very annoying!
[23:53] <platzhirsch> EriC^^: I can't ssh anymore to the box
[23:53] <EriC^^> platzhirsch: after doing what?
[23:53] <[Saint]> do-release-upgrade would have done that anyway, no?
[23:54] <EriC^^> [Saint]: no, you have to modify the sources.list
[23:55] <[Saint]> Then one would posit do-release-upgrade to be largely broken by design. :-S
[23:57] <OerHeks> I would ask my VPN provider for upgraded image, as VPN images usually are heavily tweaked.
[23:58] <EriC^^> yeah what OerHeks said, the VPS sometimes make it very hard to upgrade too
[23:58] <[Saint]> yeah, like I said I'd just drop out ~ and my configs and get the provider to spin up a new instance
[23:58] <platzhirsch> 15.04 or 14.04 for the new image? LTS or bleeding edge?
[23:58] <EriC^^> Flynn: try gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power idle-dim false
[23:58] <EriC^^> platzhirsch: 14.04
[23:59] <[Saint]> Depends what you want to achieve.
[23:59] <[Saint]> (and arguably 15.04 isn't bleeding edge but +1 seems to be a curse word here)
[23:59] <JinjaNinja> Hello all, I have JACK audio and guitarix for use with my acoustic electric guitar on my linux computer. In the Mic jack, I've got an aux cord plugged in, and on the other end of the aux cord, I've got an aux >> Quarter-inch. The aux >> Quarter inch plugs into my acoustic electric guitar. This should work, right?
[23:59] <platzhirsch> achieve?
[23:59] <JinjaNinja> Linux Ubuntu, btw


[04:55] <erichammond> What time are folks arriving at SCALE Saturday morning to set up the booth?
[04:56] <pleia2> erichammond: 8:30ish
[04:56] <erichammond> pleia2: Thanks.  Looks like it's even documented on the event page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale10x
[04:56] <pleia2> :)
[04:57] <erichammond> The company printer had some trouble with the CD sleeve so I only have about 50 to bring in.
[04:58] <pleia2> no problem, I am somewhat worried now we won't have enough CDs, gave out 100 of our 450 at Ubucon today
[04:58] <pleia2> Ubucon was great, standing room only for some sessions
[04:59] <pleia2> even the 9AM talk had almost 50 people
[05:00] <pleia2> anyway, off to practice for my talk tomorrow morning!
[05:00] <erichammond> I have 200 blank CD-R.
[05:01] <pleia2> yeah, that's that will get us through the weekend :)
[05:11] <erichammond> Looks like FedEx/Kinkos is about $0.75/color copy.
[05:12] <erichammond> If we don't have another way to print them, I'll order a hundred to pick up next door at the Marriott.
[05:16] <erichammond> Or we can just see how it goes on Saturday and walk over to FedEx/Kinkos at the Marriott if it looks like we'll need more.  They close at 5pm Saturday and are not open on Sunday.
[05:37] <erichammond> Looks like it's$0.59/copy for normal paper.  When I go to check out online, it suddenly changes to $1.59 with no explanation.  Guess I'm not submitting the order online.
[05:49] <pleia2> I think maybe just bring blank paper, if we need it we'll just fold accordingly
[05:49] <pleia2> not a huge deal
[06:46] <pleia2> chumby slideshow done \o/ after tomorrow people can recommend what I actually should put in it, rather than the random photos I did put in it ;)
[16:00] <pleia2> booth day \o/
[16:02] <philipballew> its gonna be fun!
[16:21] <erichammond> On my way in to SCALE with network switch and purple cables for the Ubuntu California booth. ETA 9:15a


[00:40] <linuxman410> are the going to put another irc client in next version of lubuntu since they are dropping xchat
[00:43] <linuxman410> anyone here
[00:43] <Unit193> linuxman410: You can always install xchat and Pidgin is an IRC client
[00:44] <linuxman410> Unit193 why are they removing it using too much memory
[01:01] <Unit193> linuxman410: IIRC, to free some space on the CD
[01:16] <Slick666> Hi all
[01:16] <Slick666> I was looking at doing a lubuntu 64-bit install
[01:17] <Slick666> any way to do this?
[01:17] <phillw> yup
[01:17] <phillw> the topic as the links :)
[01:18] <Slick666> oh yea
[01:21] <Slick666> this might be a little newbish but is it easy to install next to a regular ubuntu install
[01:22] <Slick666> so I would have Windows/Ubuntu/Lubuntu
[01:41] <phillw> Slick666: yes, it is...
[01:43] <phillw> Slick666: how well do you know ubuntu and the disk system?
[01:43] <Slick666> A decent amount
[01:43] <Slick666> I wasn't sure how well the install would play with the Grub that was already there
[01:44] <phillw> grub lives on the MBR area - when you install a new OS grub just needs telling to go and find it @:)
[01:44] <Slick666> cool
[01:45] <phillw> the way I do it, is extended partitions - as you can only have 4 primary ones
[02:38] <linuxman410> have they decided on lxde or lightdm yet
[02:38] <linuxman410> for 11.10
[02:39] <linuxman410> anyone here
[02:40] <linuxman410> phillw you here
[02:44] <Unit193> linuxman410: Not quite yet
[02:44] <linuxman410> Unit193 they are not going to unity are they
[02:47] <linuxman410> Unit193 you here
[02:47] <Unit193> linuxman410: Lubuntu = LXDE, not Unity
[02:47] <linuxman410> thanks
[02:47] <linuxman410> Unit193 i do not like unity or gnome 3
[02:48] <Unit193> linuxman410: I'm not going with Unity any time soon, nor do I plan to use Gnome (XFCE isn't bad though)
[02:51] <linuxman410> Unit193 i prefer lxde or openbox
[12:50] <maahes> I er...have a weird problem: my version dependencies for lxde in natty are all screwed up
[12:57] <maahes> lxde-core won't install because lxde-common won't install and lxde-common won't install because lxsession won't install. lxsession by itself installs fine. And all version numbers meet the dependency requirements.
[12:57] <maahes> and these are the latest lxde packages in natty, so I'm confused
[12:58] <maahes> lubuntu can't be broken
[13:00] <maahes> the whole reason I'm wanting to install btw, is so that I can get lxsession/settings/appearance to work with awesomewm
[13:00] <maahes> so far lxappearance isn't effecting my gtk settings at all
[13:04] <maahes> or rather...nevermind it is, its just not effecting synaptic
[13:05] <maahes> also lxinput crashes when I try and change the mouse settings but this is a known issue with no fix yet, so yey.
[13:08] <pmatulis> is there any way to sync files with ubuntu one?
[14:45] <leszek> hi
[17:21] <gumus> hi all
[17:21] <gumus> does anyone know how to connect to FTP server?
[17:22] <gumus> when i searched for it most of the solutions were for ubuntu
[17:23] <phillw> gumus: I use filezilla for my ftp stuff. I'm sure there are other ways, but I'm used to that one :)
[17:24] <szczur> gumus, you can just run filemanager and put ftp://user@server as a path
[17:24] <szczur> same thing for sftp or ssh
[17:27] <phillw> also chromium 'should' now support ftp... http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/new-ftp-implementation-goes-live.html
[17:27] <szczur> make sure that gvfs-backends is installed
[17:27] <szczur> sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[17:28] <bioterror> no one should support ftp
[17:28] <gumus> i'll take a look at it , thanks!
[17:28] <bioterror> let's start from there ;)
[17:28] <phillw> lol
[17:34] <gumus> wow
[17:34] <gumus> i didn't know it was easy that much
[17:40] <gumus> guys, i got one more question about FTP
[17:42] <gumus> i managed to reach the server as i wrote the address, however i want to make that common folder stable. is just bookmarking enough?
[19:52] <pmatulis> installed 11.04 yesterday.  so far i'm quite happy!
[19:54] <AmberJ> Hello
[19:55] <AmberJ> LXDE_menu -> Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse exits when I try to change 'mouse sensitivity'...
[19:55] <AmberJ> amber@amberj-lubuntu:~$ lxinput
[19:55] <AmberJ> Segmentation fault
[19:56] <bioterror> !dgb
[19:56] <bioterror> noooo
[19:56] <bioterror> !backtrace
[19:57] <phillw> AmberJ: you on 11.04?
[19:58] <AmberJ> yes phillw
[19:59] <phillw> AmberJ: let me just fire it up..
[20:02] <phillw> AmberJ: I can confirm that on my  VM..... It's a little gremlin :(
[20:02] <bioterror> make backtrace and send it to launchpad
[20:02] <AmberJ> bioterror, doing that.
[20:04] <AmberJ> bioterror, the application hanged when I tried reproducing the error...When I try to Ctrl+c in gdb nothing happens...Any idea as to how I get past this?
[20:05] <bioterror> what :D
[20:05] <phillw-virtual> soz, just had to jump from 11-10 alpha1 back to 11-04 to confirm a bug. Jeez, these VM's are cute a s hell :D
[20:05] <AmberJ> bioterror, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation ....Step 4
[20:06] <phillw-virtual> whoops... wrong channel :-[
[20:06] <AmberJ> phillw, it still makes sense though :D
[20:06] <bioterror> do you see lxinput process?
[20:06] <bioterror> give it a kill witout -9
[20:07] <bioterror> without
[20:07] <bioterror> if it doesnt take just plain kill, give it then -9
[20:08] <AmberJ> didn't worked without -9...
[20:08] <AmberJ> Ok, got it killed with -9
[20:09] <AmberJ> bioterror, damn...now though the cursor flashes at terminal, it doesnot allows me to type anything at (gdb) prompt
[20:10] <bioterror> :D
[20:10] <bioterror> rather difficult to solve what's the problem
[20:10] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, do backtrace in your vm
[20:11] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: I do not know enough about the VM. The error should be logged somewhere.
[20:11] <phillw-virtual> if you can talk me through it - I will try. But am still 100% n00b at VM!
[20:11] <AmberJ> bioterror, http://codepad.org/zs458L5Q quickie look into current state of gdb log in case you are interested
[20:12] <AmberJ> phillw, using vbox?
[20:12] <bioterror> AmberJ, doesnt tell much =D
[20:13] <phillw-virtual> yeah - the oracle one. I've never used VM's before so am really new to it all!
[20:13] <AmberJ> phillw, So, you see lubuntu desktop....right
[20:13] <AmberJ> ?
[20:13] <AmberJ> Just open lxterminal...
[20:14] <AmberJ> and install gdb...
[20:14] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: do you want me to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation and install gdb?
[20:14] <bioterror> da
[20:14] <phillw-virtual> okies - I've done that before for pcmanfm :)
[20:16] <phillw-virtual> installed... next?
[20:18] <bioterror> continue guide
[20:18]  * phillw-virtual twiddles thumbs as awaits which <program> you want ;)  gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-<program>.txt
[20:19] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: remember I'm admin / wiki - not a coder :P
[20:20] <phillw-virtual> 'phone... brb
[20:22] <AmberJ> phillw, <program> is lxinput
[20:22] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, then you should understand that your wiki stuff :D
[20:23] <phillw-virtual> lol
[20:24] <AmberJ> Isn't there a way to assign a shortcut to quickly switch from one keyboard layout to another?
[20:24] <AmberJ> lxkeymap doesnot seems to have one :(
[20:25] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: there is - just let me sort this out 1st!
[20:26] <AmberJ> ok
[20:26] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: command done. do you want me to launch the program?
[20:27] <bioterror> how else you would backtrace it?-)
[20:29] <phillw-virtual> lol - it's nearly 2 years since I last used gdb - give this old dog a little while :)
[20:29] <phillw-virtual> It has successfully crashed
[20:29] <phillw-virtual> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[20:29] <phillw-virtual> 0x006f6300 in _XSend () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
[20:29] <bioterror> now run rest of the commands
[20:30] <AmberJ> lol phillw over your reply: "It has successfully crashed" :D
[20:31] <AmberJ> That reminds me of http://amberj.devio.us/pub/funnie/lxde_error_msg.jpg ;)
[20:31] <bioterror> :D
[20:31] <phillw-virtual> A debugging session is active.
[20:31] <phillw-virtual> 	Inferior 1 [process 1816] will be killed.
[20:31] <phillw-virtual> Quit anyway? (y or n)
[20:31] <phillw-virtual> (after 'quit')
[20:33] <phillw-virtual> I assume 'y' but I do not wish to make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" ... please advise.
[20:34] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: ??
[20:34] <bioterror> press y then
[20:36] <phillw-virtual> -rw-r--r-- 1 phillw phillw  8573 2011-06-17 20:31 gdb-lxinput.txt
[20:36] <phillw-virtual> you want this?
[20:36] <bioterror> I dont want it, but lxinput developers might want ;)
[20:45] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: can you pop onto https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/798919 and confirm it (and say 'affects me) - thanks.
[20:47] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, where's the gdb-lxinput.txt stuff?
[20:48] <phillw-virtual> I told it to attach? :(
[20:48] <bioterror> y u launchpad no attachment!?
[20:48] <bioterror> :D
[20:52] <bioterror> gilir, hop
[20:54] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: if you head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ you'll find multiple keyboards discussed at about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Multiple keyboard layouts :)
[20:55] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: is it there?
[20:55] <AmberJ> confirmed the bug.
[20:56] <phillw-virtual> thanks. It will keep the devs out of the pub for a night :P
[20:57] <bioterror> hurrrhhh... a link to forum discussion
[21:00] <phillw> bioterror: they had a good discussion on it. I think it is quite excellent and come 11-10 will be using it for the FAQ wiki side, as we do need to be able to support multiple languages.
[21:01] <phillw> My fun with the swede earlier is testament to the fact lubuntu 'can' do it, just needs some instructions :)
[21:01] <AmberJ> phillw, thanks for the link...
[21:03] <phillw> AmberJ: as you may tell, i'm a documenter - these guys on here are front line support. I will always do as requested to help the project, and they enjoy re-telling me stuff that I have not touched in over a year :)
[21:08] <AmberJ> phillw, these guys?
[21:08] <AmberJ> And, is lubuntu officially supported by canonical now?
[21:08] <AmberJ> Or, are you volunteer documenter?
[21:09] <bioterror> AmberJ, we are all volunteered
[21:09] <bioterror> and not yet, 11.10 will be "official"
[21:09] <phillw> I'm a volunteer, we all are. lubuntu is on track to be 'fully' canonical endorsed for 11-10
[21:10] <phillw> Canonical has very few 'employees' and many thousands and thousands of volunteers.
[21:15] <AmberJ> well yea...'voluteer', this is what most of open source is all about :)
[21:18] <phillw> bug #1
[21:39] <beef-supreme> anyone here use xmonad?
[21:39] <beef-supreme> i need help setting it up in such a way that it keeps a ?px margin
[21:39] <bioterror> what does lxde and xmonad have in common? :D
[21:40] <beef-supreme> x?


[00:10] <sbeattie> ahasenack: is there a reason there isn't symbol version tracking on the library symbols?
[00:10] <ahasenack> let me check
[00:11] <ahasenack> sbeattie: not that I'm aware of
[00:11] <ahasenack> no reason
[00:11] <sbeattie> ahasenack: also please please please don't make the fusermount-copy setuid
[00:11] <ahasenack> never
[00:11] <ahasenack> it currently isn't, and I won't, and debian also won't (they got in touch with me)
[00:12] <ahasenack> I'll check the symbols tracking story
[00:12] <sbeattie> figuring out how get more tests running during build/adt would be great but won't be a blocker.
[00:42] <ahasenack> sbeattie: they have a unit test infra in place, but zero tests for it
[00:43] <ahasenack> I asked, and the tl;dr seems to be once they finally got the infra in place, they moved to github tests that were being developed in parallel, and rely on those now only
[00:43] <ahasenack> I can even enable unit tests during build, but it will say "0 tests run" in a nice little report
[00:43] <sbeattie> lovely
[00:44] <ahasenack> for adt, I added that test to create and mount a volume
[00:44] <ahasenack> it's a bit limited what I can do with just localhost
[00:44] <ahasenack> ideally it would be 3 vms (it's how I test locally)
[00:44] <sbeattie> yeah, it's a great smoke test, but not exactly comprehensive.
[00:44] <ahasenack> 4 actually, one is a client
[00:45] <sbeattie> are the github tests gettable in some way?
[00:46] <ahasenack> let me check
[00:48] <ahasenack> sbeattie: grabbed a PR at random: https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/pull/3418
[00:48] <ahasenack> scroll down
[00:49] <ahasenack> in the tree, there is run-tests-in-vagrant.sh
[00:49] <ahasenack> but fedora
[00:50] <ahasenack> I didn't get ./run-tests.sh to run in ubuntu
[00:50] <ahasenack> they seem to have their own jenkins, exclusive: https://build.gluster.org/job/gh_fedora-smoke/2629/
[00:51] <ahasenack> the jobs: https://github.com/gluster/build-jobs/
[00:57] <sbeattie> ah, yeah, looking at the jenkins job output, they are building and running run-tests.sh
[01:00] <ahasenack> so it's doable, but maybe only on rh
[01:00] <ahasenack> we could try to make it run in ubuntu
[01:00] <ahasenack> ubuntu/debian
[01:00] <ahasenack> but run it where
[01:01] <ahasenack> we don't have a jenkins
[01:01] <sbeattie> oh weird, they have a shellcheck jenkins job, but shellcheck found lots of stuff.
[01:01] <ahasenack> our qa-regression-testing? "clone this and run this in a vm"
[07:13]  * bittin listening to this weeks show now and updated my Ubuntu box


[03:12] <Omnifrog> gah
[03:15] <Omnifrog> forcing an upgrade of xubuntu to 18.04.1 seems to have rendered my grand daughters computer somewhat .... dead