[07:48] <{Phoinix}> Hi, How can i get the information tha Synaptics produces, when a package is updated using the non graphical tool, APT.  Tryied apt-cache policy and apt-cache show... didnt work
[07:48] <Daisuke_Ido> EXetoC, XFCE
[07:49] <walkeraj> newbie to linux here for 2 days, trying to modify my .bashrc with some Aliases but they are not working, I have done source .bashrc and also tried logout/login but still not working, can anyone suggest why?
[07:49] <jescis> Peddy: one sec.
[07:49] <{Phoinix}> The DIFF, what has changed in the updated package
[07:49] <killown> when gnome 2.22 will be released on apt repositories?
[07:49] <skoenman> guys does any one know how to limit bandwidth with when apt-get downloads???
[07:49] <Kennster> anyone know much about the Ubuntu LiveCd installer hanging with a final message of "Running local boot scripts"?
[07:49] <EXetoC> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah i thought about that one, but i'm convinced now. thanks
[07:49] <EXetoC> *and
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> anyone knows how to solve the problem: Reading package lists... Done
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> Building dependency tree
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> Reading state information... Done
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 60 not upgraded.
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> Need to get 0B of archives.
[07:50] <FloodBot3> shadowkerne1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <shadowkerne1> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> EXetoC, if you're feeling adventurous, there's also enlightenment
[07:50] <pinpoint> shadowkerne1: pastebins
[07:50] <Soms> Any ops around?
[07:51] <Kyro_> !ops
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[07:51] <Peddy> jescis: can you right-click my name and choose IM or something?
[07:51] <Soms> Wasnt quite an emergency =)
[07:51] <belkinhelp2> so my onboard sound has been disabled in the BIOS
[07:51] <walkeraj> newbie to linux here for 2 days, trying to modify my .bashrc as per tutorials with some Aliases but they are not working, I have done source .basrc and also tried logout but still not working, can anyone suggest why?  http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/723
[07:52] <shadowkerne1> anyone knows how to solve the problem when I install php5 in gusty? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60136/
[07:52] <belkinhelp2> and the new card was recognized
[07:52] <Kyro_> Soms, I know but its the only way to get their attention
[07:52] <EXetoC> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah. It's even better when it comes to customization right?
[07:52] <belkinhelp2> now....how do i get the other channels working?
[07:52] <jescis> Peddy: I'm on irssi
[07:52] <Peddy> Soms: out of curiosity, what happens now?
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> why in god's name would a complete newbie need to start making changes to .bashrc?
[07:52] <Soms> Never mind now, the user I was assisting has logged off.
[07:52] <belkinhelp2> lol
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> !dash | walkeraj, this is probably why
[07:53] <ubotu> walkeraj, this is probably why: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash
[07:53] <belkinhelp2> well im a newbie too
[07:53] <belkinhelp2> all i want to do is configure this sound card
[07:53] <Kennster> Anyone have experience with the Ubuntu LiveCd Installer hanging after the message "Running local boot scripts"?
[07:53] <Soms> Peddy: New Zealand explodes and then Vodafone buys your ISP.
[07:53] <Peddy> jescis: can you right-click my name, or in the name list choose IM or Personal Message or something
[07:53] <jescis> Peddy: are you doing /msg?
[07:53] <walkeraj> i will try, thanks
[07:53] <belkinhelp2> Do I have a chicken tied to my neck or is it just me?
[07:53] <Peddy> Soms: You'
[07:53] <Peddy> Soms: You're shitting me!*
[07:54] <Soms> Nope.
[07:54] <jussi01> !ohmy | Peddy
[07:54] <ubotu> Peddy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:54] <Soms> Oh, wait. Already happened. They own iHug =P
[07:54] <belkinhelp2> meh
[07:54] <Peddy> Soms: lmao I have ihug
[07:54] <Soms> I am quite aware of that.
[07:54] <lancerocke> Hi all. I'm trying to use "Sonato" player and I configured the options to tell it where my music is and click Update Library, but for some reason nothing is happening. Anyone have any experience with Sonata?
[07:54] <Soms> That is why I said that.
[07:55] <Peddy> ubotu: I'm very sorry for my highly disruptive and vulgar language. I beg for forgivenes
[07:55] <ubotu> Peddy: Error: "I'm" is not a valid command.
[07:55] <ubotu> Peddy: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:55] <jescis> lol
[07:55] <beltran> and can anyone list a url so when ubuntu installs i can get my atheros card going? some noob freindly site if at all possible
[07:55] <Kennster> Anyone have experience with the Ubuntu LiveCd Installer hanging after the message "Running local boot scripts"?
[07:56] <belkinhelp2> is this file supposed to be empty?
[07:56] <belkinhelp2> gedit .asoundrc
[07:56] <Peddy> jescis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:56] <beltran> actualy ill google it, but thanks again for your help and yall have a good night/morning
[07:56] <jescis> ah ok thanks
[07:56] <Peddy> np
[07:56] <belkinhelp2> is there a help channel specifically for sound under linux?
[07:57] <tijn> belkinhelp2, you can try #alsa
[07:57] <belkinhelp2> thanks
[07:57] <jescis> Peddy: and fyi irssi is terminal based
[07:57] <chris062689> Sorry but.. whats that one command to reconfigure the package manager?
[07:58] <Peddy> jescis: I realised that after you pointed out that you use irssi which I found strange, so I jfgi's it
[07:58] <jussi01> Peddy: just fyi, these channels are publicly logged, so best not to give your email out in plain text, unless you like spam :)
[07:58] <Peddy> jussi01: I had no other choice :O
[07:58] <chris062689> why do I get this everytime I try to install something?
[07:58] <chris062689> dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[07:58] <Peddy> jussi01: and its an account I just set up for that purpose ;)
[07:59] <metaljim> just seeing if anyone tonite has found a way to play flash videos in opera
[07:59] <jescis> Peddy: yes you did /msg <nick> <message>
[07:59] <Peddy> jescis: for some reason it didn't work
[08:00] <jescis> hhmmm
[08:00] <souper> metaljim that's something i've been trying to figure out myself
[08:00] <jescis> Peddy: what is your irc client?
[08:00] <Peddy> jescis: I use pidgin
[08:00] <Peddy> jescis: I guess it works with xchat
[08:00] <cy_`> hello
[08:00] <metaljim> souper: all the stuff i've found online so far hasn't helped.  not too much info out there though
[08:01] <jescis> Peddy: ah, ok gotcha
[08:01] <Peddy> jescis: doesn't matter too much, I don't care about that email acc, I set it up specifically for that purpose
[08:01] <jescis> he, like my yahoo.com email
[08:01] <jussi01> !register | Peddy
[08:01] <ubotu> Peddy: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[08:02] <ccuuhhoo> hello
[08:02] <jescis> o.O Peddy not registered???
[08:02] <tanner> anyone else having an issue with firefox 3 beta user interface being too.. large?
[08:03] <teixi> \quit
[08:05] <Peddy> jescis: I regged a long time ago, but forgot my pwd. Is there a way to recover it?
[08:05] <jescis> Peddy: #freenode can help
[08:06] <gavan> Hello
[08:06] <Black_Magic_> hi
[08:06] <jescis> Peddy: they can unregister your nick so you can reregister
[08:06] <Peddy> sup my homie g. hows it rollin?
[08:06] <gavan> Who are you
[08:06] <Peddy> jescis: thanks :)
[08:07] <Peddy> gavan: I am Peddy
[08:07] <Black_Magic_> a guy :P
[08:07] <jescis> Peddy: np
[08:07] <gavan> No shit mate i can see that with your nick name
[08:07] <Peddy> !ohmy | gavan
[08:07] <ubotu> gavan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:07] <hyw> hi, if I keep getting Grub Error 17.. does it mean my windows boot order is messed up?
[08:07] <Peddy> ^^
[08:08] <jescis> What's with the anti profanity junk?
[08:08] <walkeraj> ubutu - do you mean like this?           « #! /bin/b alias cp='cp -v -i'
[08:09] <Peddy> jescis: iono! I was just being annoying :)
[08:09] <Peddy> jescis: he said the s word
[08:09] <jussi01> !guidelines > jescis
[08:10] <jescis> jussi01: where'd it go?
[08:10] <jussi01> jescis: to you via pm :)
[08:11] <AndorinKato> Geez, there's a lot of people here! Anyone active?
[08:11] <jescis> I don't have a new window
[08:11] <jussi01> AndorinKato: lots of us
[08:11] <EXetoC> hyw: google usually have the answer. Maybe this'll help http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[08:11]  * jescis scratches head
[08:11] <AndorinKato> Very awesome. So is this a support channel at all?
[08:11] <jussi01> AndorinKato: absolutely
[08:11] <bo-dick> does the app "NVidia X Server Settings" reads it's resolutions from xorg.conf?
[08:12] <bharath> hai
[08:12] <AndorinKato> Sweet. I have a question that's, well, mostly related to Linux.
[08:12] <jescis> jussi01: I'm using irssi and I still don't have a new "window"
[08:12] <jussi01> jescis: yeah there seems to be an issue with the bot
[08:13] <jussi01> !guidelines | jescis
[08:13] <ubotu> jescis: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:13] <walkeraj>  ubotu - do you mean like this?           « #! /bin/b alias cp='cp -v -i'
[08:13] <ubotu> walkeraj: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[08:13] <AndorinKato> I have a laptop with a partitioned hard drive. It originally came with Vista, but at my friend's urging I split the drive and installed Ubuntu on it. Vista has been acting up and I want to scrap it completely and just run Linux.
[08:14] <AndorinKato> What I'm wondering is, would deleting Vista affect the performance of Ubuntu at all?
[08:14] <jussi01> AndorinKato: IMHO, it shouldnt
[08:14] <AndorinKato> Does it make a difference that I can access my Vista drive and its files while running Ubuntu?>
[08:15] <AndorinKato> That tells me that it might be using something from that drive to run the computer, and if so I don't want to delete that something and accidentally screw everything up.
[08:15] <jussi01> AndorinKato: no, just think of it as an extra partion. linux can access windows files no problems
[08:15] <jescis> jussi01: But we're not children. so what's wrong with a little bit of profanity?
[08:15] <AndorinKato> Hm, I see.
[08:16] <jussi01> jescis: Id suggest that this isnt really the place to discus this, best to chat about that stuff in #ubuntu-ops :)
[08:16] <lancerocke> Hi all. I'm trying to use "Sonato" player and I configured the options to tell it where my music is and click Update Library, but for some reason nothing is happening. Anyone have any experience with Sonata?
[08:16] <jescis> jussi01: ok
[08:17] <worldnbottle> hello all, do i need antivirus on ubuntu in your opinion?
[08:17] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[08:17] <Soms> Yes.
[08:17] <jussi01> !virus | worldnbottle
[08:17] <icesword> hmm.basically no
[08:17] <ubotu> worldnbottle: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:17] <Soms> If you have to ask the question, yes.
[08:17] <worldnbottle> i read about avg
[08:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Soms, what's your rationale for that?
[08:17] <AndorinKato> jussi01: Okay, I have another question. MSN Messenger has a feature that lets me send text messages to my friends' mobile devices. Is there an Ubuntu-compatible IM program that lets me do the same, or a web-browser-based IM service that will let me do that?
[08:18] <sauvin> jescis, I'm having a disagreement with another linux channel on a very similar issue. Part of the problem is the inch/mile thing: if they rules relax by an inch, visitors will insist on taking a mile.
[08:18] <Soms> I just rationalized it.
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> his asking the question doesn't make the OS inherently less secure, poor rationalization
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> thanks for playing though
[08:18] <thesurvivorman> You can txt2day.com
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, a tad grumpy tonight
[08:19]  * AndorinKato checks the site
[08:19] <worldnbottle> in fact i have just moved from xp to ubuntu
[08:20] <zcat[1]> rofl.. just logged a 190-line duscussion in ##windows, how to fix up file associations in Vista.. this would have been a 3-second job in just about any other OS.. Holy crap, Vista is messed up!
[08:20] <Soms> Daisuke_Ido: Nothing makes the OS less secure, if more virii was out there for Linux it might be more of an issue.  I'm trying to use "Sonato" player and I configured the options to tell it where my music is and click Update Library, but for some reason nothing is happening. Anyone have any experience with Sonata?
[08:21] <magnetron> AndorinKato: which program?
[08:22] <beltran> just thought id stop back in and say my install went smoothly and i think it even recognised my atheros card, or the netgear card, anyhow thanks a bunch
[08:22] <AndorinKato> The one I download from txt2day.com
[08:22] <thesurvivorman> I'm not sure, I just use it via the site.
[08:22] <Soms> Enough rationale there Daisuke_Ido?
[08:22] <flowOver> im familiar with the amd64 build being very difficult to find drivers for.  this is why i run the 32bit build
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) plural of "virus" isn't "virii", this isn't ancient Rome, but that aside...  2) there's still no reason for an antivirus.
[08:22] <beltran> and i rember earlier someone said "and if your feeling adventurouse, try enlightenment" i take it that it isnt as simple as downloading the package?
[08:23] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: my advice is to get a better supporte wireless card. broadcoms are frequently a royal pain to get working. (having said that, I got mine working and it's been going great ever since..!)
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing's going to be getting through anyway
[08:23] <flowOver> i dont top out 2gb ram often so i dont think i really need the 4+gb access
[08:23] <bo-dick> what command displays the current screen resolution, refreshrate and colordepth?
[08:23] <riskbreaker> for example i can type "iwlist wlan0 scan" and it'll give me a list of the local networks, and then i'll type it again 5 seconds later and it'll say no results available
[08:23] <riskbreaker> when i do manage to connect to a network, such as right now, i'm capped at like 10kb/sec...
[08:24] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: Oh.. so it's working then. Well done :)
[08:24] <riskbreaker> now i don't understand - it should either work, or it shouldn't work, but right now it's in a limbo-ish kinda-works state.
[08:24] <bo-dick> is there a command that displays the current screen resolution and refreshrate?
[08:25] <icesword> !rename
[08:25] <Ubot6> Factoid rename not found
[08:25] <bo-dick> anyone
[08:25] <riskbreaker> unfortunately this wireless card is onboard in my laptop so i can't really just get another
[08:25] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: well, when I say mine's working, it comes up about one time in three..  Second, things can always get through, it is just the fact that they are less prone to, due to the almost low amount of malware created for Linux.
[08:25] <bo-dick> :|
[08:26] <riskbreaker> should i just switch to a not-64bit build then
[08:26] <zcat[1]> The other card and the USB wireless I have I just plug in and start using the connection, no pain at all..
[08:26] <Soms> Daisuke_Ido: Question reversed, should a windows user who knows what he is doing be running an AV?
[08:26] <riskbreaker> is there even a significant advantage to running the 64-bit build?
[08:26] <flowOver> bulk malware.  there are still individual blackhats who know their business and stay 0 day
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ...and the fact that users are running as limited by default...
[08:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Soms, i'm going to say no.
[08:27] <flowOver> it tightens up alot of holes yes.  but thatś what exploits are for
[08:27] <riskbreaker> flowOver.... that's what she said?
[08:27] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: what I've heard is that cgg doesn't do a heck of a lot of optimization for it yet, so no huge advantage.. and it makes just about any nonfree stuff like drivers and codecs much harder a lot of the time..
[08:28] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 riskbreaker you might want to look at this cli how to for wireless
[08:28] <flowOver> why does my keyboard use the śingle quote to markup letters with accents?  i selected us in install
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's an entirely different question
[08:28] <flowOver> riskbreaker, HAH
[08:28] <Soms> Daisuke_Ido: Then why should an unexperienced user not use something like Clam on Ubuntu? or any distro for that matter?
[08:28] <zcat[1]> Ummmm.. the virus discussion is probably !ot guys..
[08:28] <riskbreaker> bazhang: appreciated, but i don't think the problem here is with networkmanager
[08:29] <bazhang> Soms: if you are using ubuntu as a mail server for windows boxes then go for it; otherwise not needed
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> it's "should a user with a below average knowledge use an AV on a secure os", not "should a user with above average knowledge use an AV on an insecure OS"
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and the answer is no
[08:29] <riskbreaker> bazhang: sometimes an iwlist scan returns results, sometimes it does not. regardless of network manager
[08:29] <CVD-PR> sup
[08:29] <flowOver> i have usa international selected as a keyboard layout and the single quote key toggles accented chars
[08:29] <zcat[1]> But wince we're having it.. I wrote a nice little script that sits in the background after you run it and waits for you to sudo or gksudo, then runs itself using sudo ... just a trivial proof of concept..
[08:29] <zcat[1]> *since
[08:29] <SidStudios> Does anyone here use Ubuntu due to the lack of virii, spyware, etC?
[08:30] <bazhang> riskbreaker: the how to I linked you bypasses network manager; might be worth a look
[08:30] <Soms> zcat[1]: My point, exactly.
[08:30] <Soms> Everything is in-secure without a knowledgable user.
[08:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Soms, you never had a point.
[08:30] <Daisuke_Ido> but okay, i can see that as a reason
[08:30] <riskbreaker> one more question. to switch to 32-bit do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[08:30] <SidStudios> I have a friend online MSN with the name Daisuke
[08:30] <bazhang> Soms: simply not true and treading into offtopic
[08:30] <SidStudios> Yeah, you can't downgrade from 64bit
[08:31] <SidStudios> 64bit is what I used 2 hours ago.
[08:31] <zcat[1]> Soms: The real reason for no spyware/viruses is that installing most programs is just add/remove programs and tick the box. As a rule we don't go downloading stuff from random websites or running anything sent in email.
[08:31] <bazhang> riskbreaker: aye
[08:31] <riskbreaker> noooooooooooooooo......
[08:31] <SidStudios> Now I use Vista
[08:31] <styrman> question; is there a ubuntu splash-switcher application in gutsy? i googled after it and found its obsolete
[08:31] <bazhang> !usplash
[08:31] <Ubot6> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:31] <zcat[1]> Viruses are just programs. Linux runs programs as well as anything else. It's not magically immune.
[08:32] <souper> how do i remove the splash completely?
[08:32] <styrman> thanks
[08:32] <Soms> zcat[1]: Right, but you and I; are not exactly everyone else.
[08:32] <flowOver> SidStudios, thats a hefty licence to swap into over 2 hours
[08:32] <riskbreaker> should i try ndiswrapper?
[08:32] <sammy> offtopic
[08:32] <sammy> !offtopic
[08:32] <Ubot6> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:32] <sammy> huzzah.
[08:32] <zcat[1]> !ot | zcat[1]  :)
[08:32] <Ubot6> zcat[1]  :): please see above
[08:32] <flowOver> i have a keyboard character issue
[08:33] <SidStudios> flowOver: I've been using Ubuntu for the past month. I went to BEIMUN (Model United Nations Beijing), came back, switched on my comp, and everything was lagging like there was no tomorrow. Sound didn't work anymore, I hated the UI :)
[08:33] <flowOver> us international is selected, but the single quote key is behaving as an accent toggle
[08:33] <flowOver> nice story
[08:33] <riskbreaker> i don't really understand what ndiswrapper is but a lot of people talk about it in wireless discussions, should i give it a shot before wiping my ubuntu installation?
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> riskbreaker, what's your wireless chipset?
[08:34] <Yuji1> I accidently used all my disk space up and now Ubuntu won't let me login.
[08:34] <Yuji1> What do I do?
[08:34] <riskbreaker>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[08:34] <SidStudios> Hibernate in Ubuntu never worked for me either, it was a pain rebuilding ALSA, using NDISWrapper, and finding the correct screen from that "screens and graphics" thing in Ubuntu
[08:34] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: since you're using 64 bit, ndiswrapper will be one of those non-free driver things that becomes particularly difficult for you I think...
[08:34] <SidStudios> Riskbreaker
[08:34] <SidStudios> I have the correct option for you
[08:34] <SidStudios> Here is a website I used yesterday
[08:34] <zcat[1]> riskbreaker: you can give it a try though
[08:34] <SidStudios> AND I USE 64BIT
[08:34] <SidStudios> WAIT
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> riskbreaker, did you go through the restricted driver manager?
[08:34]  * Yuji1 is using Windows XP and mIRC to do this.
[08:34] <SidStudios> DONT JUST USE IT LIKE THAT
[08:34] <SidStudios> USE THIS LINK
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> !caps | SidStudios
[08:34] <Ubot6> SidStudios: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:34] <riskbreaker> daisuke_ido - i apt-gett'ed b43-fwcutter
[08:34] <raidium> yujil: if you are serious boot the live cd and delete some junk
[08:34] <SidStudios> Riskbreaker: hold on, I'll get the braodcom thing from my email
[08:35] <riskbreaker> same thing he restricted manager does except it doesn't click "Yes' in the script that happens
[08:35] <SidStudios> riskbreaker: It's the best guide out there for broadcom
[08:35] <Yuji1> Ubot6: using caps usually lets people catch to it quicker.
[08:35] <Ubot6> Yuji1: Error: "using" is not a valid command.
[08:35] <Yuji1> Oh great I'm talking to bots.
[08:35] <Yuji1> I accidently used all my disk space up and now Ubuntu won't let me login. What do I do, please.
[08:35] <SidStudios> riskbreaker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[08:35] <tiax> Hi, I've tried setting up my MX700 Mouse according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX510Mouse, which worked, but when I unplug the mouse and plug it back in, it's device node in /dev has changed and doesn't match that one in xorg.conf any more. What could I do about that? Is using udev recommended?
[08:35] <riskbreaker> feisty, eh?
[08:35] <SidStudios> riskbreaker: It works in Gutsy, and I used 64bit and it worked..
[08:36]  * Yuji1 is using Gutsy./
[08:36] <SidStudios> riskbreaker: I have broadcom but rev02, yours is rev01 but same thing
[08:36] <riskbreaker> for what it's worth, i'm on the hardy alpha (it's surprisingly stable!) but i'll give it a shot
[08:36] <zcat[1]> Oh well, I'm gonna reboot soon and play with alpha6
[08:36] <riskbreaker> alpha6 is nice
[08:36] <zcat[1]> like.. after I copy it over and burn a cd
[08:37] <riskbreaker> this wireless thing is the only problem i've had with it
[08:37] <SidStudios> What's the dif between that and Gutsy?
[08:37] <SidStudios> Riskbreaker: Are you using a HP or Compaq laptop?
[08:37] <flowOver> i have studio alpha6
[08:37] <riskbreaker> Dell
[08:37] <zcat[1]> hardy is going to be so sweet, I think... alpha5 was pretty good.
[08:37] <flowOver> the kernal finally runs stable on my machine :D
[08:37] <SidStudios> I don't understand why people use Ubuntu over Windows..
[08:37] <flowOver> why not?
[08:37] <Yuji1> SidStudios: well depends.
[08:37] <Yuji1> One VISTA.
[08:38] <Yuji1> >.<;
[08:38] <SidStudios> I mean, if you do nothing but surf the internet and chat, I'd say ubuntu is good.
[08:38] <Yuji1> Two, AirCrack woot, jk >.> <.<
[08:38] <zcat[1]> Is wubi likely to be safe in Vista..I've only tested it on XP
[08:38] <SidStudios> Aircrack?
[08:38] <SidStudios> Is that like Wireshark?
[08:38] <Yuji1> ...Ah nothing. *hushes*
[08:38] <zcat[1]> Silly question... I guess it should be :)
[08:38] <Yuji1> Somewhat.   MS is rushed product
[08:38] <SidStudios> ?
[08:38] <Yuji1> zcat[1] Try googling their software and see if there is a unique Vista supported version.
[08:39] <SidStudios> I've never had one bluescreen on Vista
[08:39] <zcat[1]> Aircrack? ITYML backtrack2 live CD
[08:39] <riskbreaker> an example of the kind of problems that occur in vista...
[08:39] <allam> after Installing LAMP On Ubuntu and when i go to edit php.ini and set ";extension=mysql.so" to be "extension=mysql.so" i did not found this value in the php.ini file what i can do now
[08:39] <riskbreaker> i just installed service pack 1 tonight
[08:39] <raidium> Sid: great for development and several games. i have 4 3d accelerated screens going. I can do graphic design, game and web develop all at the same time. if anything crashes it only takes down 1 screen. pretty sweet
[08:39] <riskbreaker> and it took like an hour, during which it forced me not to ues the computer
[08:39] <Yuji1> I've never had a blue on XP, but Vista I just think they removed it, ha!
[08:39] <perfector>  any idea how i could get rid of “getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected” messages in samba
[08:39] <SidStudios> raidium: nice, is that on Vista or ubuntu?
[08:39] <Chipsa964> what do you think :o
[08:39] <raidium> ubuntu hardy alpha
[08:40] <flowOver> Really getting OT but mine started happening on boot after patching
[08:40] <allam> please any one help me
[08:40] <SidStudios> Compiz is great, really, but after some time, your eyes start hurting
[08:40]  * Yuji1 fades.
[08:40] <flowOver> moving on, can anyone help me solve the keyboard issue i have?
[08:40] <allam> after Installing LAMP On Ubuntu and when i go to edit php.ini and set ";extension=mysql.so" to be "extension=mysql.so" i did not found this value in the php.ini file what i can do now
[08:40] <flowOver> i dont want the single quote to act as an accent toggle
[08:41] <zcat[1]> flowOver: I just spent half an hour in ##windows trying to find out how to fix .doc files so they open in OOo (which was working fine for the last three months and then broke for no reason) .. 150-line chat, not counting quites and joins to solve something that would have been 3 seconds in XP or Ubuntu
[08:41] <zcat[1]> Bloody madenning (I know.. !ot)
[08:41] <osfameron> hi
[08:41] <jetscreamer> why would you ask in there about that
[08:41] <osfameron> my manpages for rxvt are broken
[08:41] <bo-dick> is it possible to change display resolution from the command prompt?
[08:41] <osfameron> is that a problem with the packages?  or with my installation?
[08:41] <riskbreaker> Sid: someone on this wiki page mentions having success with my model laptop so i'll give this a shot
[08:42] <jetscreamer> man setterm
[08:42] <zcat[1]> jetscreamer: Sorry... to fix that in Vista
[08:42] <flowOver> aw man the single quote is one of my favourite keys!
[08:42] <flowOver> i need that key
[08:42] <Chipsa964> vista started giving me .dll errors on like the second boot
[08:43] <riskbreaker> am i still online
[08:43] <Chipsa964> and the toolbar disappeared, and so did my whole desktop
[08:43] <bullgard4> "GConf is a library which provides a simple configuration data storage interface to applications." What file does store this library?
[08:43] <bo-dick> flowOver: go to keyboard settings
[08:43] <belkinhelp2> anyone here familiar with alsa?
[08:43] <jetscreamer> no you're not, riskbreaker
[08:44] <osfameron> rarr, tis a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/rxvt-unicode/+bug/144416
[08:44] <Ubot6> osfameron: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: not enough arguments for format string
[08:44] <flowOver> bo-dick, i been there.  ive changed it to both usa international and usa.  it acts as an accent toggle still
[08:45] <riskbreaker_> whoops had to wire in
[08:45] <flowOver> i can get it if i hit it twice ´ but thatś silly
[08:45] <flowOver> would this be a bug in alpha6 ?
[08:46] <zcat[1]> flowover: system > preferences > keyboard, set the language to US or something?
[08:46] <zcat[1]> or did I totally miss the point..?
[08:46] <flowOver> done.  usa internation and usa
[08:46] <lancerocke> Hi all. I'm trying to use "Sonato" player and I configured the options to tell it where my music is and click Update Library, but for some reason nothing is happening. Anyone have any experience with Sonata?
[08:46] <flowOver> thatś all there is in the list and it still behaves as such
[08:46] <flowOver> usa is default
[08:46] <allam> is there any one work with php
[08:46] <tanner> what is a good automated backup solution (preferably with a gui) to backup files to external drive?
[08:47] <zcat[1]> OK... no environment being set that would make the terminal think it's different?
[08:47] <allam> after Installing LAMP On Ubuntu and when i go to edit php.ini and set ";extension=mysql.so" to be "extension=mysql.so" i did not found this value in the php.ini file what i can do now
[08:49] <zcat[1]> allam: if you installed apache2 and php5, it should sort out the config so apache2 is php5-aware automatically
[08:49] <riskbreaker_> hey sidstudios
[08:49] <SidStudios> Hey
[08:49] <SidStudios> Yeah?
[08:49] <riskbreaker_> when you did it
[08:49] <riskbreaker_> did you get a message like " The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!"
[08:50] <SidStudios> No, I did it yesterday and never got that message
[08:50] <SidStudios> I used Step 2a though
[08:50] <belkinhelp2> 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[08:50] <belkinhelp2>         Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
[08:50] <belkinhelp2>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19
[08:50] <belkinhelp2>         I/O ports at ec00 [size=256]
[08:50] <belkinhelp2>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[08:50] <FloodBot3> belkinhelp2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <riskbreaker_> oh
[08:50] <riskbreaker_> i am using 2b
[08:50] <belkinhelp2> can anyone start anything with that?
[08:50] <riskbreaker_> let's go through with it and see what happens
[08:50] <SidStudios> Try using 2a with your driver instead and see if it works
[08:50] <belkinhelp2> i wasnt flooding
[08:50] <belkinhelp2> that was the output
[08:50] <zcat[1]> belkinhelp2: anything more than a couple of lines you should use pastebin
[08:51] <zcat[1]> or a private channel
[08:51] <bo-dick> does anyone know about screen resolution stuff in ubuntu?
[08:51] <belkinhelp2> uh....pastebin?
[08:51] <zcat[1]> !pastebin
[08:51] <Ubot6> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:51] <belkinhelp2> ah
[08:51] <belkinhelp2> thank you
[08:51] <riskbreaker_> alright i'm going to reboot and give it a shot
[08:51] <riskbreaker_> wish me luck!
[08:51] <SidStudios> Goodluck :)
[08:52] <b0bzilla> i just reformated my computer, now ubuntu keeps freezing up when ever i try to do any kind of updates or install any packages
[08:52] <SidStudios> Then switch to windows, quit whining.
[08:52] <belkinhelp2> i suppose all the output wasnt necessary
[08:52] <belkinhelp2> here is the meat of it
[08:52] <belkinhelp2> Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
[08:52] <belkinhelp2> sudo modprobe snd- gives me this error
[08:52] <tanner> anyone know of a simple backup solution?
[08:53] <belkinhelp2> FATAL: Module snd_ not found.
[08:53] <allam> zcat: i install apache2 then php5 then mysql5 then phpmyadmin but the phpmyadmin folder doesnt exist in the www directory and the ;extenstion mysql.so doesnt exist in the php.ini file
[08:53] <damo22> belkinhelp: i had trouble with a CMedia device too, it was a usb audio device
[08:53] <belkinhelp2> so the device manager "sees" the card
[08:53] <zcat[1]> tanner: put all your work on public ftp servers and let other people mirror it.. works for Linus
[08:53] <LSD|Ninja> Grr... How do you add custome classes to the jdk on Ubuntu?
[08:53] <warnet03> goose
[08:53] <belkinhelp2> but if im right...the driver is not installed
[08:53] <donswa> hoi
[08:53] <donswa>  No Country for Old Men
[08:53] <damo22> belkinhelp2: i dont think there is a driver for that soundcard yet
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> ugh
[08:54] <damo22> belkinhelp2: try #alsa
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> thats not good
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> no one in alsa right now
[08:54] <zcat[1]> allam: try http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ -- it should be there but it's defined in the config, not a link in /var/www/
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> been trying for about an hour
[08:54] <riskbreaker_> hey uh i have a question.
[08:54] <riskbreaker_> if i type uname -r
[08:54] <belkinhelp2> let me do a bit more research on the alsa homepage
[08:54] <tanner> zcat[1]: ... right.. because thats exactly what i'm looking to do
[08:54] <riskbreaker_> and get the following... 2.6.24-12-generic
[08:54] <allam> zcat:Not Found
[08:54] <riskbreaker_> ....i'm not runnign amd64 am i.
[08:55] <SidStudios> Did it work?
[08:55] <jescis> jussi01: fyi I do try to help. I'm in no way working for anyone that can pay me for support. -_-
[08:55] <SidStudios> What?
[08:55] <riskbreaker_> SidStudios: step 2b did not
[08:55] <SidStudios> What makes you think you're not running AMD64?
[08:55] <zcat[1]> tanner: add/remove programs.. type 'backup' in the search box. I rsync stuff to my webserver when I remember (a non-shared directory.. although I put a lot of stuff on the web too)
[08:55] <riskbreaker_> "generic"
[08:55] <riskbreaker_> shouldn't it say amd64?
[08:55] <SidStudios> Try using uname -n
[08:55] <SidStudios> I don't think so
[08:56] <SidStudios> I had generic too
[08:56] <SidStudios> Or uname -l
[08:56] <SidStudios> One of them tells you if you run 64
[08:56] <Terrasque> Hello, this isn't a direct ubuntu question, but is there a good way to sanitize input from a BASH script?
[08:56] <damo22> uname -m
[08:56] <jescis> SidStudios: uname -a does too ;)
[08:56] <zcat[1]> allam: oh. Bugger.
[08:57] <allam> ????
[08:57] <SidStudios> jescis: Ah, thanks :)
[08:57] <SidStudios> jescis: I actually wouldn't know since I use vista now..
[08:57] <jescis> SidStudios: np
[08:57] <allam> zcat[1]what i can do now please
[08:57] <riskbreaker_> uname -a returns the following: Linux mbrainprime 2.6.24-12-generic #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 22:31:43 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:58] <jescis> SidStudios: you poor guy. ;)
[08:58] <damo22> x86_64 there you go
[08:58] <riskbreaker_> okay
[08:58] <SidStudios> jescis: I didn't know poor people could afford vista ;)
[08:58] <zcat[1]> allam: you said not found. try making a test.php file in /var/www/ and put this in it.. : <?php phpinfo(); ?> then browse to http://localhost/test.php
[08:58] <riskbreaker_> i was just worried because it said generic... and i thought that was where the platform name went
[08:58] <riskbreaker_> SidStudios - i'ma try 2a
[08:59] <LSD|Ninja> Is there like a folder I can drop my custom classes into to have them added to the CLASSPATH somehow?
[08:59] <zcat[1]> SidStudios: people in general can't avoid Vista.. it's preinstalled on everything just about
[08:59] <CE_BASSIST> i
[08:59] <SidStudios> Riskbreaker: Ok, I think it should work better
[08:59] <allam> zcat[1]:the apche work well and i try testphp padge and it show me the php information successfully
[08:59] <bo-dick> does anyone know how to change screen resolution and refreshrate from command prompt?
[08:59] <tiax> bo-dick: xrandr does that
[08:59] <SidStudios> zcat[1]: Vista pretty much owns if you use Vlite with x64 Home Basic and remove all the assware that is there beforehand
[09:00] <SidStudios> And then do a fresh install
[09:00] <jescis> riskbreaker_: the part with generic is the kernel release
[09:00] <LSD|Ninja> Vista is probably easier to set the CLASSPATH on too...
[09:00] <zcat[1]> allam: ok... phpmyadmin will be domewhere /var/lib/phpmyadmin perhaps? find it, make a link to it from /var/www and it should all be good. I think.
[09:00] <bo-dick> tiax: does it allow me to use any res/refreshrate i want?
[09:00] <tiax> bo-dick: I guess it won't allow you to set impossible values, check the manpage for more details
[09:00] <bo-dick> tiax: ok, thanks
[09:01] <zcat[1]> SidStudios: I'm loving vista.. since it came out we have had so many people coming along to the LUG because they don't want to upgrade to Vista and they know Microsoft is going to stop supporting XP sometime.
[09:01] <kosnick> hi i need to register with some channel , how do i do that and later on how do i identify myself ? sorry to put this here
[09:01] <damo22> xrandr --screen 0 --size 1024x768
[09:01] <jescis> riskbreaker_: and uname -r gives that out as well as the -a/--all one does.
[09:01] <styrman> bazhang: my bootsplash theme, got a .config file what do i do with it? it isnt mentioned in that site
[09:02] <souper> its going to be a while before they stop supporting xp
[09:02] <kosnick> !register
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[09:02] <zcat[1]> I dunno.. they really want to push people onto Vista asap
[09:02] <SidStudios> zcat[1]: Actually, the average user would find it easier to use Vista than Ubuntu, because ubuntu needs a shit-load of time and is too distracting
[09:02] <zcat[1]> SidStudios: yeah, right.. have you used Vista lately?
[09:02]  * tiax got his laptop with gutsy pre-installed monday
[09:02] <souper> lol
[09:03] <SidStudios> I'm using it right now, with no desktop effects
[09:03] <fx|RabBi2> how do i find out the dependencies of a package?
[09:03] <flowOver> vista has been a cash cow since launch
[09:03] <LSD|Ninja> CLASSPATH anybody?
[09:03] <SidStudios> I got it with my laptop
[09:03] <jescis> SidStudios: Since you're on vista. you could crack open a book(or do a google search) ._>
[09:03] <SidStudios> And I got my laptop for free,
[09:03] <SidStudios> Everyone bitches about vista for no reason
[09:03] <flowOver> theyŕe getting as much out of the heap it became and moving onto new things asap
[09:03] <allam> zcat[1]: how i can uninstall all because i want to reinstall it again
[09:03] <zcat[1]> I just spend a good half hour finding out how to change a file association, after it broke for no reason at all. Vista is crap!
[09:03] <LSD|Ninja> SidStudios: people bitched about XP for no reason 6 years ago too. Plenty of people are forgetting that when they slag off at Vista ;)
[09:04] <jussi01> !ot
[09:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:04] <Ubot6> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:04] <LSD|Ninja> !stfuwiththegaybotcommands
[09:04] <souper> agreed
[09:04] <riskbreaker> okay, gonna give it another shot
[09:04] <riskbreaker> brb
[09:04] <flowOver> xp was crap before sp2 imo.  i stuck with 2000 especially during the blaster days
[09:04] <fx|RabBi2> !dependencies
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <SidStudios> Sorry for my downtime, I closed the Window
[09:05] <jescis> SidStudios: I don't like vista because you need the new 64-bit hardware to do anything useful, and it's a Mac OS X rip off.
[09:05] <souper> i've never used a new windows os untill it was forced upon me by a new oem system
[09:05] <SidStudios> jescis: I'm not using any 64-bit hardware besides my processor
[09:05] <jescis> SidStudios: imo
[09:05] <fx|RabBi2> how do i find out the dependencies of a package?
[09:05] <flowOver> souper : thats the only reason i have experience with the V lol.  it came oem
[09:06] <SidStudios> jescis: ffs, my Canon printer, MF8180C is not even supported by ANY linux; I've gone through aoubt 10 pages of google results
[09:06] <xoqa> k, so i've tried getting my new kernel to boot, but it doesn't. i keep getting an error saying that the kernel isn't syncing, and it's because the sys doesn't know if sda1 is where root is or if root is really (hd0).. i've done edited grub myself to find out. here's proof it's there:  http://dpaste.com/40115/ i also looked to see if my drive is using sda or fda, according to fdisk and blkid, it is. check out this paste: http://dpaste.com/40109/  i also did upd
[09:06] <allam> zcat[1]: how i can uninstall all because i want to reinstall it again
[09:06] <perfector>  any idea how i could get rid of “getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected” messages in samba??
[09:06] <xoqa> done edited= already edited :P
[09:06] <lancerocke> Hi all. I'm trying to use "Sonato" player and I configured the options to tell it where my music is and click Update Library, but for some reason nothing is happening. Anyone have any experience with Sonata?
[09:06] <fx|RabBi2> xoqa:  google for super grub dsk that one fixes every boot problem in a few clicks;)
[09:07] <jescis> SidStudios: I meant that for to refresh your memory on the linux command.
[09:07] <zcat[1]> allam: sudo aptitude remove apache2 php5 mysql-server
[09:07] <jescis> commands*
[09:07] <souper> and because things like wine are becoming increasingly more sophisticated i'm using windows less and less
[09:08] <SidStudios> Windows is more stable than Ubuntu, IMO
[09:08] <souper> i disagree
[09:08] <PriceChild> !test
[09:08] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:08] <SidStudios> Ubuntu can't hibernate, suspend, resume from suspend if it does suspend
[09:08] <souper> my laptop can
[09:08] <fx|RabBi2> ok guys this is a hlepchannel not a discussion channel hit #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:08] <SidStudios> Good,
[09:09] <bullgard4> I am missing an 'About' page on the  http://www.getdeb.net/  website. I noticed the Canonical copyright. What is the purpose of the  http://www.getdeb.net/ website?
[09:09] <SidStudios> Mine can't. Wireless doesn't work out of the box. Proprietary drivers just to get graphics working? No thanks..
[09:09] <xoqa> fx|RabBi2: unfortunately, i don't have anymore blank disks :|
[09:09] <m1r> i have upgraded 7.04 to 7.10 from alternate cd , then i went online to DL 500mb upgrades , when it finished and started installing it gave me response: WARNING , Unknow Ubuntu Release 7.10 , can anyone explain me what hapened ?
[09:09] <souper> what was the last ubuntu release you've installed?
[09:10] <m1r> souper: 7.04
[09:10] <flowOver> SidStudios, youŕe not the only person in the world nor is your computer the only of itś own.  vista fails very well on alot of hardware.  many oem venders have this problem and forced them to keep selling xp
[09:10] <m1r> souper : then upgrade to 7.10 from alternate cd
[09:11] <EXetoC> bullgard4: various 32 bit gutsy software grouped into categories
[09:11] <fx|RabBi2> how do i find out the dependencies of a package?
[09:11] <EXetoC> kategorier = categories :-)
[09:11] <styrman> What do I do with bootsplash-1024x768.cfg when i'm looking to change bootsplash theme?
[09:11] <SidStudios> flowOver: And selling XP instead of Vista is a disadvantage_ because?
[09:12] <styrman> SidStudios go and soak yourself in gasoline instead :P
[09:12] <jussi01> SidStudios: Flowover, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offftopic
[09:12] <SidStudios> K, sorry for the inconvenience
[09:12] <SidStudios> Too bad Linux isn't apologizing as well..
[09:13] <flowOver> ground control *ke*k* this is the point.  we have taken off and cleared the launch zone - over
[09:13] <fx|RabBi2> gosh someone kickhim please
[09:13] <SidStudios> Anyways, Compiz integration into Ubuntu is great
[09:13] <SidStudios> If I had to use Linux, I'd use Ubuntu because of the great package management system
[09:14] <cesar_b1> Hi, when I click the end session button on the top panel, I get a lag for 20 seconds after the dialog apears, I had 1.5 gb of Ram, Why this is happening?
[09:14] <bullgard4> EXetoC: Why doesn't System > Administration > Update_Manager provide the software offered by  http://www.getdeb.net/?
[09:14] <SidStudios> bullgard4: I think you need to add the sources
[09:14] <souper> In computer world: software doesn't apologize to you, you apologize to software
[09:14] <SidStudios> bullgard4: Software sources
[09:15] <SidStudios> cesar_b1: I have 4GB RAM, and it doesn't seem to be a problem
[09:15] <SidStudios> cesar_b1: I think Ubuntu needs at least 3GB of RAM to function correctly without fucking up
[09:15] <SidStudios> !language
[09:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:15] <styrman> kick him
[09:15] <m1r> SidStudios: o overhelimg, i run 256mb sdram with 500mhz with np
[09:15] <SidStudios> m1r: I was meant to type Vista, not ubuntu
[09:16] <flowOver> mlr - ive learned to not feed the trolls
[09:16] <flowOver> theyŕe small ugly and tend to smell
[09:16] <zcat[1]> wtf? I have 128 M in my lappy.. it's a bit slow but still useable.. as long as I don't open more than a couple of programs at a time
[09:16] <cesar_b1> SidStudios: ¬¬
[09:16] <SidStudios> flowOver: I think Vista trolls would generally be able to afford water and soap..
[09:16] <Smegzor> I have lost sound while viewing flash videos.  I have sound everywhere else.  How do I fix this without rebooting?
[09:16] <m1r> zcat[1]: yes i have one too , is bit laggy but works when it boots up after 10 min :D
[09:17] <SidStudios> flowOver: As well as buy their own ketchup instead of getting free packets from McDonalds'...
[09:17] <SidStudios> flowOver: Maybe, you just might be able to understand my rhetoric
[09:17] <flowOver> cesar_b1, goofs taken care of, cleanup takes time.  shutdown doesnt happen instantly.  describe this hang more.  is it simply the shutdown process or does it stop before that?
[09:17] <cesar_b1> The issue is the end session, gets LAG, all apps works fine, just the end session get's to much time
[09:17] <souper> now that's just a waste of money
[09:17] <zcat[1]> hehe.. two or three min, yeah. It's a bit slow to boot and stuff too.. I really need 512M and it would be sweet
[09:17] <SidStudios> flowOver: You can search up the word 'Rhetoric' in that nice little Dictionary deskbar applet that you Ubuntu users have :)
[09:18] <SidStudios> zcat[1]: Maybe you can increase your Swap size if it helps
[09:18] <dgjones> zcat[1], what desktop manager do you run on that, I've got an old laptop, sounds like a simlar spec to that, works great with xfce, gnome was a bit slow
[09:19] <souper> more and more i'm starting to recognize the ravings of a drunk person
[09:19] <m1r> !ops
[09:19] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[09:19] <zcat[1]> dgjones: yeah, gnome .. it would probably be quite OK with xfce but I plan to get more ram sometime and I like gnome
[09:19] <sauvin> I'm not so :hic: think as you drunk I am!
[09:19] <Tm_T> m1r: yes?
[09:19] <fx|RabBi2> m1r: than you so mauch man!
[09:19] <m1r> too much chit chat
[09:20] <Amaranth> ...
[09:20] <m1r> can u SidStudios
[09:20] <fx|RabBi2> and super and flowOver
[09:20] <dgjones> !ot
[09:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:21] <m1r> ty
[09:21] <fx|RabBi2> thx alot m8
[09:21] <Tm_T> m1r: do ops | reason next time ;)
[09:21] <souper> woo
[09:21] <flowOver> especially me?  for some reason.  moving on, i still need help figuring why ´ is behaving as an accent toggle instead of a single quote
[09:21] <Smegzor> Any idea how I can fix random loss of sound in flash?  if I reboot it usually comes back but there must be a better way?
[09:22] <zcat[1]> I have 2g in this machine and it flies. I've never had more than that..
[09:22] <fx|RabBi2> Smegzor: flashbug #21357
[09:22] <zcat[1]> Smegzor: how about quitting firefox and starting it again.. less drastic than rebooting
[09:23] <dgjones> flowOver, its your keyboard/language setting, sounds like your keyboard is set to use sticky keys, which makes certain punctuation marks have two meanings for foreign characters
[09:23] <hp_ahlers> hi .. i got kubuntu on my ps3 - and i cant boot anymore.. made an entry in the fstab to mount nfs shares - now kboot hangs with "rpc: failed to contact portmap error=-%2
[09:23] <Smegzor> i'll try that.  don't think thats helped before..
[09:23] <m1r> Tm_T: ok sry
[09:24] <zcat[1]> I find flash locks up pretty often, fortunately killing firefox and restarting it fixed the problem... gnash is not up to the job jet, but I'm keeping a watch on it.. I will switch when it can do what I need
[09:24] <flowOver> dgjones, you´d think that.  but all that is installed is US and US Int
[09:24] <xoqa> fx|RabBi2: have you used super grub disk? after making the usb drive bootable and telling the bios to put from usb drive first, can you just put the iso on the usb and reboot?
[09:24] <flowOver> US is default, yet it does not change the behaviour
[09:25] <xoqa> i need a real solution.. what is super grub disk really going to do that i can't do from an editor?
[09:25] <fx|RabBi2> xoqa: an iso is a file that contains the content ofa cd/dvd, if you just copy that onto an usb stick that wont be bootable nor be recognized as any sort of usable data...
[09:25] <dgjones> flowOver, strange, i had the same problem and had installed uk keyboard with sticky keys, rather than just a standard keyboard, by changing to a pc105 type (basically anything other than one with sticky keys) it was solved, maybe worth changing the keyboard type to something different as a test
[09:26] <flowOver> i should probably also disclose i´m on hardy studio a6
[09:27] <m1r> flowOver: #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <hyw> ArthurArchnix: you ther?
[09:27] <dgjones> flowOver, right, in that case, i'm not sure, as m1r  suggests #ubuntu+1 is probably your best bet for problems with hardy
[09:27] <faLUCE> Hi. how can i launch a process with a realtime scheduler from command line?
[09:27] <allam> zcat[1]:after uninatalling apache and php and phpmyadmin and mysql the address http://localhost/testphp.php is still working and their directory does not removed from /var/www/ or var/lib/
[09:27] <zcat[1]> flowOver: you might want to look at 'keyboard model' rather than the country setting ...
[09:27] <zcat[1]> allam: well that's very odd.
[09:28] <BuFF> how to play ape files or to convert them to mp3 ? (i tryed to install monkeys files but its useless)
[09:28] <flowOver> no need to !  dgjones called it.  changing the keyboard to a generic model did it
[09:28] <flowOver> thanks bud
[09:28] <dgjones> no probs
[09:29] <zcat[1]> I need to sleep soon..
[09:30] <zcat[1]> BuFF: I think APE is a compressed audio CD format somewhere between FLAC and ISO .. Can't remember but I once found a way of dealing with them :)
[09:35] <killown> hiredgoon, when gnome 2.22 will be released on ubuntu repository?
[09:35] <killown> ops
[09:35] <killown> when gnome 2.22 will be released on ubuntu repository?
[09:35] <crdlb> !hardy | killown
[09:35] <ubotu> killown: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:35] <icesword> !when
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about when - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <ubuntu> um
[09:41] <nhannt> my ubuntu server (7.10) always frezes network service after 15-20minutes, each time I connect I have to "ping" it
[09:42] <nhannt> anyone has such a problem ?
[09:42] <[[thufir]]> is there some secret to getting the sun jdk to install?  I've agreed to the license
[09:43] <m1r> nhannt , did u enter your nameserver settings into /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:43] <nhannt> m1r: yes
[09:43] <nhannt> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:44] <m1r> nhannt: can u set your ISP DNS there instead of router IP ?
[09:44] <m1r> nhannt: then try restart network
[09:45] <belkinhelp2> front and rear out work great...but center does not
[09:45] <belkinhelp2> any ideas what could be wrong?
[09:45] <belkinhelp2> where do you change sound card settings?
[09:45] <nhannt> m1r: I think it's not problem with restart network, after few second pinging, I can connect to server
[09:46] <m1r> nhannt: is your router configured to be always online ?
[09:46] <styrman> do we have ' bootsplash' in package list? i'm looking for the tool splash.sh could i just go ahead and download the source?
[09:46] <nhannt> m1r: yes, my debian server works fine in same range of IP
[09:46] <belkinhelp2> is this a driver issue or a setting issue?
[09:46] <hyw> Can anyone help, trying to fix Grub Error17 but I cant boot up LiveCD not with normal mode or safe graphics mode
[09:46] <nhannt> m1r: only ubuntu server has this problem
[09:46] <belkinhelp2> sudo modprobe snd-cmipci
[09:46] <belkinhelp2> returns no error
[09:46] <m1r> nhannt: can u set your nameserer IP to ISP DNS ?
[09:47] <nhannt> m1r: no,
[09:47] <anton55> try booting livecd with acpi=off
[09:47] <m1r> nhannt:  then try #ubuntu-server , sry i cant help more
[09:48] <nhannt> m1r: thx u
[09:48] <Uatec> BIOS manufacturers should build in a virtual CD drive with network ISO mounting capabilities in to the bios. I hate all these stupid windows CDs that I burn off once just to boot and install from then never use again...
[09:48] <ArthurArchnix> hyw yup
[09:48] <m1r> Uatec , PXE boot
[09:49] <Uatec> m1r, that sounds all very complicated
[09:49] <m1r> uatec , then write to manufacturers ;)
[09:49] <pepparkaka> Buy a motherboard with that new fancy built in linux in ROM ?
[09:49] <Uatec> and you can't just bung in a bog standards windows ISO or something (most of my installing is windows, linux machines i only install once)
[09:49] <Uatec> lol, i will
[09:50] <pepparkaka> splashtop or what was it called?
[09:50] <Uatec> a what?
[09:50] <m1r> uatec, more simpler install PXE boot server ;)
[09:50] <pepparkaka> PXE is nice but you need another computer for it wo work.
[09:51] <BuFF> finally found it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016 :)
[09:51] <m1r> pepparkaka: the one he is using now ? :)
[09:51] <pepparkaka> mlr, oops yeah.
[09:52] <m1r> cant be simpler than that
[09:52] <pepparkaka> Anyway i like the Splashtop idea. http://www.splashtop.com/index.php
[09:52] <Uatec> m1r, can you put an iso on a PXE boot server to install windows or something?
[09:52] <m1r> uatec , all u need
[09:52] <Uatec> without having to build a Remote Installation thing...?
[09:53] <m1r> uatec ; make PXE boot server , then set 2nd pc to boot from PXE, assuming that it got that option which more new pc have
[09:53] <m1r> pepparkaka: yes i agree , but for multiple/constant installations i prefer PXE, it pays off once u get it runing
[09:54] <biabia> one of my hdd's doesnt show up when I df
[09:54] <pepparkaka> mlr, ohh yeah. PXE sure has it uses. Especially in large deployments. No one wants to run around with CDs on 1000s of computers.
[09:55] <pepparkaka> That gets expensive, even if you use interns.
[09:55] <m1r> pepparkaka: not just for that, but even if u install 1 OS per week it does miracles
[09:56] <pepparkaka> Whichever saves the most time wins. :P
[09:56] <m1r> pepparkaka: u can set 10 distro on one machine and chose which to install, and speed of cdrom cant be compared with 100mbit ;)
[09:56] <[[thufir]]> I can compile and run java (hello world) fine, but this strange message result from "java --version":  http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php
[09:56] <Masca> someone with experience with Xilinx software?
[09:57] <pepparkaka> mlr, yeah I used to construct such images on SunOS. Sure beat sitting and enter monotone crap over the OOB channel/LOM.
[09:57] <anton55> do a google on java compiling
[09:57] <m1r> pepparkaka: it would be cool if one could just install splashtop, or even upgrade bios with it, but this way ....
[09:58] <MrGray> how do i do special signs such as [] while beign in "nano"?
[09:58] <[[thufir]]> how do I figure out what's wrong with my java install?  It should report back that the sun jdk is installed?
[09:58] <m1r> good question MrGray , i dont know how to use them at all :)
[09:58] <osfameron> is it bad to :imap ^? ^h  rather than sorting out the screen/urxvt issues that are making my backspace fail in vim?
[09:58] <pepparkaka> mlr, you probably could install something similar as long as you have a fat eeprom and some extra flash. If you reflashed with linuxbios or something and then made it load the os from the flash device.
[09:59] <void^> [[thufir]]: --version is an incorrect option
[09:59] <m1r> pepparkaka: does somthing similar exist ? i have no problem with flashing , but where to get such thing :)
[09:59] <pradeepvglughyd> how do i disable network configuration with dhcp on ubuntu 7.10 alternate install cd ,it gets stuck while configuring network, i have a AMD 690G mobo
[10:00] <finn> what's the best way to install a base system (which then is reachable through ssh) on a computer without screen and keyboard?
[10:00] <allam> when itry to restart the apache i get this error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[10:00] <[[thufir]]> void^: heh
[10:01] <m1r> pradeepvglughyd: disable network while installing and configure it manualy after , or u will have to wait loads of time
[10:02] <pradeepvglughyd> m1r, how do disable network ...
[10:02] <[[thufir]]> void^: thanks, I thought something was wrong.  I can tend towards hypochondria with regards to packages.
[10:02] <monu> hi
[10:02] <m1r> pradeepvglughyd: unplug cable :D
[10:02] <monu> hi
[10:02] <monu> hi
[10:02] <m1r> hi monu
[10:02] <finn> is there a way at all to do this?
[10:02] <cw> co_kacruutd ,,,,
[10:03] <MrGray> Can i do [ ] and such signs in nano? i need to configure my samba..
[10:03] <pradeepvglughyd> m1r, unplugging doesn't help, is there any other way
[10:03] <pepparkaka> mlr, don't know actually.
[10:03] <hyw> Can anyone help, trying to fix Grub Error17 but I cant boot up LiveCD not with normal mode or safe graphics mode
[10:03] <supershort> hey
[10:03] <m1r> finn , install server , then install openssh package
[10:03] <supershort> how do i use the tar command to extract files
[10:03] <monu> i am new to ubuntu
[10:03] <m1r> pepparkaka: ok tnx :) i will check on it for sure
[10:03] <cjsstables> hello all.  is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu server?
[10:03] <monu> monu
[10:04] <m1r> pradeepvglughyd: press configure network manualy or somthig like that on install process
[10:04] <cw> co_kacruutd ,,,,
[10:04] <supershort> how do i use the tar command to extract files
[10:04] <m1r> pradeepvglughyd: or maybe an option do not configrue network at this time
[10:04] <finn> m1r, how without a screen or a keybaord?
[10:04] <supershort> hey
[10:04] <tuntun> Hi. Some text links in firefox can only be highlighted from the end backwards but not from the beginning-and-going-forward?
[10:04] <supershort> how do i do tar
[10:04] <Javid> finn, you need those to do the base install
[10:04] <co_kacruutdd> hei...............
[10:04] <jpatrick> supershort: I recommend looking at "man tar"
[10:05] <ooboontoo> hello
[10:05] <m1r> finn , u need at least keyboard , or take HDD out , install in other PC then put it back in
[10:05] <pradeepvglughyd> m1r, are there any options that can be passed by pressing F6 wen the install process starts
[10:05] <Javid> finn, unless you want to do some trickery with the hard drives, like he said
[10:05] <finn> will installing on another system cause any problems?
[10:05] <m1r> pradeepvglughyd: not for network imo, but unpluging cable i think should work
[10:05] <m1r> finn, it wont be same but it can run
[10:05] <ooboontoo> can ubuntu use live cd?
[10:06] <co_kacruutdd> hei
[10:06] <co_kacruutdd> hei
[10:06] <m1r> finn , if intel both pc or amd both pc
[10:06] <ooboontoo> where to download ubuntu live cd?
[10:06] <co_kacruutdd> hei
[10:06] <ooboontoo> please help
[10:06] <finn> one old amd and one intel
[10:06] <m1r> finn, for mixed options i wouldnt recomend
[10:06] <ooboontoo> one intel
[10:06] <m1r> ooboontoo: ubuntu.com
[10:06] <co_kacruutdd> j
[10:06] <co_kacruutdd> hei
[10:07] <ooboontoo> thank
[10:07] <Javid> finn, why can't the other system part with its keyboard and monitor for half an hour to do an install?
[10:07] <m1r> finn , listen to Javid
[10:07] <m1r> best option
[10:07] <finn> :/
[10:07] <theunixgeek> http://theunixgeek.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-i-switched-back-to-ubuntu.html
[10:07] <Javid> I've done the "I don't want to unplug shit" dance before, and it's really not worth it
[10:08] <finn> but I'm so lazy when it comes to moving hardware around
[10:08] <jpatrick> theunixgeek: no spam please
[10:08] <Javid> trust me on this :p
[10:08] <m1r> finn , lol , make unantended install disk on one PC and then put it in other
[10:08] <theunixgeek> jpatrick: sorry :P
[10:08] <Javid> Well, *I*'m reading the link, anyway
[10:08] <m1r> that should be "easy proccess"
[10:09] <finn> sounds good
[10:09] <theunixgeek> Javid: thanks :)
[10:09] <Javid> the penguin on your page approves of my browser
[10:10] <theunixgeek> Javid: good :)
[10:10] <Javid> :v
[10:10] <m1r> theunixgeek: GJ!
[10:10] <theunixgeek> m1r: ...excuse me...? :S
[10:10] <m1r> link
[10:10] <theunixgeek> ok
[10:10] <alejandrofer> ,d,dmvkdmkvfvkfmkvfĺamfvmv
[10:10] <alejandrofer>  kmkbmbdkassssssssssb
[10:11] <theunixgeek> the heck?
[10:11]  * Javid throws it a curveball
[10:11] <tuntun> http://tinyurl.com/37v8nk  I cant select the link text for the memory card!!!
[10:11] <m1r> dont mind him, probably vista problems :P
[10:11] <Javid> haha I used IE on linux and the penguin doesn't know what to do
[10:13] <hyw> Can anyone help, trying to fix Grub Error17 but I cant boot up LiveCD not with normal mode or safe graphics mode
[10:13] <ooboontoo> Please help, I just need to know, could Ubountu version use live cd?
[10:13] <tuntun> no, feckin firefox just wont drag-highlight the feckin link text, only backwards >:-|
[10:13] <unop> ooboontoo, ubuntu is released on a live CD
[10:13] <Javid> hyw, google for that grub error, it'll be helpful
[10:14] <ooboontoo> does any help me please
[10:14] <Javid> ooboontoo, is english your second language?
[10:14] <ooboontoo> hi m1r, I just need to know, could Ubountu version use live cd?
[10:14] <hyw> Javid: I did in all forums it says that I ned to boot windows and use the terminal whiLE i CANT
[10:14] <Javid> what are you trying to do?
[10:15] <Javid> or, what did you do?
[10:15] <ooboontoo> english
[10:15] <unop> Javid, judging by that, it could be his fourth language :)
[10:15] <ooboontoo> only
[10:15] <unop> !live | ooboontoo
[10:15] <ubotu> ooboontoo: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[10:16] <nbkr> Hi, I'm having problems with my new DELL XPS 1530 Notebook. The DVD playback doesn't work. I installed libdvdcss2 and the DVD is playing if I copy it via dd to the disk, but it won't play in the drive. Only VLC can access the DVD but the quality is really poor (nosiy, fraktals). The drive is from matshita. Any Ideas?
[10:16] <ooboontoo> thank you ubotu
[10:17] <ooboontoo> could I run office application that boot on live cd?
[10:17] <Javid> yes
[10:17] <m1r> !:)
[10:17] <ooboontoo> grreat
[10:17] <ooboontoo> thanks Javid
[10:18] <tuntun> hyw: lemme guess you decided to erase the ubuntu installation and now you cant boot windows because you also erased the grub menu.lst... amiright?... -_-
[10:18] <ooboontoo> and could I run other application without installing it?
[10:18] <hyw> tuntun: I reinstalled ubuntu then I got Error 17
[10:18] <hyw> gruvb
[10:19] <m1r> hyw , smells like grub reinstall
[10:19] <ooboontoo> and could I run other application without installing it?
[10:19] <ooboontoo> * jscinoz
[10:19] <ooboontoo> and could I run other application without installing it?
[10:19] <ooboontoo> * jscinoz
[10:19] <ooboontoo> and could I run other application without installing it?
[10:19] <ooboontoo> * jscinoz
[10:19] <FloodBot3> ooboontoo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:19] <Polishpaul> how do i turn off the system-bell? - i'm not using GUI, just terminal - the PC speaker is exceptionally loud and annoying.
[10:19] <ooboontoo> and could I run other application without installing it?
[10:19] <ooboontoo> * jscinoz
[10:19] <hyw> tuntun: did not erase the grub menu I guess I only erased ubuntu to reinstall it :S
[10:19] <unop> Polishpaul, is this an  x-terminal
[10:19] <unop> ?
[10:20] <ooboontoo> sorry
[10:20] <ooboontoo> i'm new for irc
[10:21] <unop> ooboontoo, that depends -- you can run the applications on the live CD -- you can even install other ones from the online repositories as long as you are connected to the net and have sufficient memory/swap space
[10:21] <unop> Polishpaul, if you are in an x-terminal -- xset -b  if you are on the console -- setterm -blength 0
[10:21] <Polishpaul> unop: no, just plain terminal
[10:22] <Polishpaul> ty - also found rmmod pcspkr as another solution
[10:22] <tuntun> hyw: ...no. If you install grub then erase ubuntu you are still left with grub but it wont find the grub config file on the ubuntu partition and it will therefore choke.
[10:23] <m1r> tuntun , shoudlnt resintall grub fix that problem ?
[10:23] <m1r> error 17 ?
[10:27] <ooboontoo> hello unop, when I run ubuntu from on live cd, could I install application from USB flash drive and where disk will it store after i've installed it?
[10:27] <tuntun> m1r, yes it should as long as ubuntu is present. I've always been frustrated at how many hours of mine and others time would be saved it the grub devs would just have a "rollback option in the grub menu...sigh
[10:27] <m1r> agree tuntun :)
[10:27] <visof> hello
[10:28] <visof> i have problem with xsession
[10:28] <visof> it's :
[10:28] <visof> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[10:28] <visof> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "visof"
[10:28] <visof> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[10:28] <ooboontoo>  when I run ubuntu from on live cd, could I install application from USB flash drive and where disk will it store after i've installed it?
[10:28] <Javid> oh god a paste, get the nooses and pitchforks
[10:28] <visof> that's what i have when i log in ubnutu session
[10:28] <visof> gnome session*
[10:29] <Javid> ooboontoo, to install programs and have them stay there, you have to actually install the OS to a drive
[10:29] <visof> sorry for mess
[10:29] <hyw> tuntun: is there a way beside booting into LiveCD using the terminal to fix the boot
[10:29] <Javid> you could probably install to the flash drive and then put whatever programs you want on it
[10:29] <hyw> to fix the grub
[10:29] <MrGray> anyway to make @ and [ ] signs in ubuntu somehow? its not workign form e
[10:30] <Javid> MrGray, you probably picked the wrong keyboard layout
[10:30] <MrGray> hmm
[10:30] <meson10> My NetworkManager doesn turn up with any wireless results, but i can connect to a Network via the Command Line.
[10:30] <MrGray> I see
[10:30] <MrGray> How do i change it then if im on a ubuntu server?
[10:31] <HinHin> hyw, the easiet way to fix grub
[10:31] <tuntun> hyw, what is your idea of "fix"--to return to the windows bootloader or to get grub/ubuntu working again?
[10:31] <HinHin> download the super grub disk
[10:31] <HinHin> it's quick and dirty but it works
[10:32] <HinHin> super grub disk can offer both options ;)
[10:32] <Javid> MrGray, I'm not sure, beyond reinstalling :/ but I'd bet there's a way, I just don't know it
[10:32] <Lamego> MrGray, run dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[10:32] <hyw> tuntun: I'd like to fix the grub so that I dont have to fix windows
[10:32] <Javid> see, Lamego is smarter than I am
[10:32] <hyw> HinHin: how to fix grub?
[10:33] <HinHin> hyw, download the super grub disk
[10:33] <HinHin> boot it
[10:33] <ooboontoo> did u mean I can install from flash drive when boot from Live cd but it's not permanently just can use when boot from live cd only ?
[10:33] <Lamego> Javid, not really, google.com, debian keyboard layout change :)
[10:33] <HinHin> and there's very very easy instrustions there
[10:33] <hyw> HinHin: thanks
[10:33] <Javid> smarter/less lazy
[10:33] <tuntun> hyw, what change made it stop working?
[10:33] <Javid> it gets the job done
[10:33] <gio89it> what is the super grub disk
[10:33] <HinHin> gio89it, basicly it's a smart grub recovery disk
[10:34] <hyw> tuntun: made ubuntu stop working?
[10:34] <HinHin> :P... the cheap and easy way to fix grub/restore windows MBR etc problems
[10:34] <icesword> fixmbr
[10:34] <HinHin> you could do that too, but super grub disk is still easier :P
[10:35] <Javid> fixmbr will just restore the windows boot sector, then good luck
[10:35] <m1r> icesword: yes if u can get over grun
[10:35] <tuntun> m1r, im not suprised then that it is second on the list for grub at ubuntu brainstorm http://tinyurl.com/233drv
[10:35] <m1r> tuntun :)
[10:35] <HinHin> most people don't know how to configure grub according partions etc
[10:35] <tuntun> hyw, yes
[10:36] <Lamego> most people don't need it
[10:36] <ooboontoo>  did u mean I can install from flash drive when boot from Live cd but it's not permanently
[10:36] <HinHin> and if you're recovering other people's grub bootloaders on a regular basis/restoring the windows MBR Super grub disk is invaluable
[10:36] <ooboontoo> hello javid
[10:36] <hyw> tuntun: did not realise I have to disable Audigy Analog Output in Volume control before I removed audigy from my pc and couldnt find a way to install it again, so had to resintalled ubuntu
[10:36] <ooboontoo> expert javid
[10:37] <Javid> I do not know what the order those words are in means, ooboontoo
[10:37] <ooboontoo> help me again plaese
[10:37] <m1r> ooboontoo: !patience
[10:38] <tuntun> hyw, remove it from ubuntu or win?
[10:38] <hyw> tuntun: ubuntu
[10:39] <beltran> hello, anyone familiar with the atheros wireless card, i say card but i mean its intergrated in my laptop
[10:40] <ooboontoo> I mean I can stil install application from flash drive when boot from Live CD, but it will lose after shutdown ubuntu
[10:40] <tuntun> hyw, audigy hardware of software?
[10:40] <unop> ooboontoo, you can use a USB stick to save some settings of a live CD session -- i'm not sure about installing applications to it for future sessions although you can save applications on a USB stick which can be installed later
[10:40] <tuntun> ^or
[10:40] <hyw> tuntun: software
[10:40] <unop> s/save applications/save packages/
[10:42] <ooboontoo> thanks unop a lot
[10:43] <ooboontoo> I'll try
[10:43] <Orynet> hi guys.... my ubuntu dell notebook is giving a very noisy situtation.... There's "BEEP ""BEEP" alerting tone all the time... can anyone teach me how to shut it off
[10:43] <Orynet> ?
[10:43] <vallhalla81> can anyone help me with a soundcard issue please
[10:44] <tuntun> hyw, well if you succesfully installed a default ubuntu once, what actually changed DURING the second install? did you add some updates or something?
[10:45] <ooboontoo> bye every 1 thanks a lot Javid and unop
[10:46] <tuntun> orynet, you can turn it off under system-settings>sound>system-bell
[10:48] <hyw> tuntun: installed ubuntu messed up with it and couldnt install audigy again, booted livecd disabled audigy analog output sound worked so I erased ubuntu and installed it again
[10:49] <rewati> hello i am installin gentoo from ubuntu
[10:49] <rewati>  can u tell me where can i get the documentation for this installation
[10:49] <hyw> tuntun: the first issue was that I couldnt hear any sound
[10:49] <hyw> tuntun: and analog output was the reason but I didnt know
[10:50] <tuntun> hyw, but now you have a grub error?
[10:50] <hyw> tuntun: yeah :(
[10:50] <beltran> im googleing it now but im not getting much, anyone know of a specific irc channel thats for wifi suport?
[10:51] <hyw> tuntun: always confronting issues when installing ubuntu
[10:51] <tuntun> hyw, so it doesnt even boot?
[10:51] <ncfi1013> i have my harddrive icons on my desktop. is it ok to delete them to the recycle bin without losing any info? if not, what do i do?
[10:51] <hyw> tuntun: will try super grub disk now and will see how it goes
[10:52] <^Mephisto^> does anyone know if it is possible at all to make dapper recognise sata disks on ICH9 controller?
[10:53] <tuntun> hyw, well Im not really sure what your problem was but good luck...
[10:53] <dgjones> ncfi1013, do you mean your mounted partitions, you can use gconf-editor from a termincal to change a setting so that they don't show, its under aApps>Nautilus>Desktop and then click Volumes visible. that will stop them appearing (and also stops any mounted usb keys from appearing as a side effect)
[10:54] <tuntun> orynet, !!!
[10:54] <beltran> even a tiny lil hint would be awsome, please?
[10:55] <tuntun> !wifi beltran
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi beltran - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <tuntun> !wifi
[10:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:56] <dgjones> beltran, just ask here if you're on ubuntu, give some details as to the tyoe of wireless card etc, if anybody knows and is around, they'll help if they can
[10:57] <theunixgeek> What's the Dell Ubuntu support phone number?
[10:58] <m1r> .
[10:59] <tsai> how do i get gutsy gibbon out of low graphics mode?
[10:59] <euweuh> bnmbmbmbmhj
[10:59] <theunixgeek> tsai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[10:59] <theunixgeek> tsai: and make sure all your restricted graphics drivers are enabled (system > admin > restricted drivers)
[11:00] <tsai> theunixgeek> i will try that.  are you using kde or gnome?
[11:00] <theunixgeek> tsai: gnome
[11:00] <theunixgeek> tsai: for KDE support, #kubuntu
[11:00] <dgjones> theunixgeek, what coountry are you in? I've got a link to a number in the uk for tech support, but thats all
[11:00] <manuatack> ola
[11:00] <theunixgeek> dgjones: US
[11:01] <jpatrick> !es | manuatack
[11:01] <ubotu> manuatack: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:01] <manuatack> #ubuntu-es
[11:01] <ionstorm> which is better totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[11:01] <theunixgeek> jpatrick: olá is Portuguese, hola is spanish.
[11:01] <jpatrick> theunixgeek: ola is short for hola
[11:01] <theunixgeek> oh ok
[11:02] <jpatrick> theunixgeek: manuatack<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:02] <vallhalla81> when trying to use sound i get this msg The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plug-ins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. please help
[11:02] <theunixgeek> oh :P
[11:05] <beltran> is there a live tech suport number for ubuntu? theres one listed but its 250 bucks, has anyone tried it?
[11:06] <JDahl> how do you connect a laptop to a TV via S-video output?  Do you need to use a special screen-resolution, or are there generally other sorts of configurations you need?
[11:07] <natalisushka_> Hello guys. I need to get a computer with the best vga to handle the new graphical features in fiesty. Any suggestions?
[11:07] <robd> anyone come across a problem with scrolling under Gutsy? Scrolling certain windows leads to horizontal distortion of the text and makes things very difficult to read. I think it's related to compiz as disabling all visual effects makes the problem disapeer
[11:07] <spsneo> hello
[11:07] <AirOnSkin> hello :)
[11:08] <spsneo> can anybody tell me where can i get the source code of ubuntu live cd installer
[11:08] <spsneo> ?
[11:08] <jimqode> spsneo, it is called ubiquity. google it.
[11:08] <jimqode> or apt-get sourece ubiquity may work
[11:08] <spsneo> ok thanks
[11:09] <spsneo> actually i would like to see the source code of window data migration tool
[11:09] <spsneo> will i get it in ubiquity>'
[11:09] <spsneo> ?
[11:09] <natalisushka_> Oops, I meant gusty! again ..  I need to get a computer with the best vga to handle the new graphical features in Gusty. Any suggestions?
[11:09] <tsai> theunixgeek>so i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and made sure my restricted graphics drivers are enabled, logged out and logged back in to low graphics . I have googled this all day and can't figure it out
[11:10] <spsneo> ?
[11:10] <ncfi1013> dgjones: where do you find what you told me about in kubuntu?
[11:10] <guadal> kjhkl
[11:11] <ionstorm> I am getting screen ripping with my nvidia card playing movies, like a ------ line shows up when the video is moving fast and flashes off, whats that called
[11:11] <ionstorm> to fix it
[11:11] <spsneo> hello where can i get the source code of window data migration tool?
[11:11] <bazhang> !sources
[11:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[11:11] <ionstorm> its like the video card has an issue in the middle of the screen, its seperated from the other video for a split sec
[11:11] <ionstorm> during movies
[11:12] <egoleo> anyone know how to install openworldsoccer game on ubuntu?
[11:12] <dgjones> ncfi1013, i'm afraid i don't use kubuntu, so I can make any suggestion on that
[11:13] <jimqode> spsneo, I have no idea. I think you'll have to track it yourself form ubiquity. You can try the questions section on launchpad ubiquity. They may be able to answer that.
[11:14] <Co_sby> koez
[11:14] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ spsneo
[11:14] <kraut> hi
[11:14] <kraut> what should i do with this problem? http://pastebin.com/m1ec285dd
[11:14] <kraut> tzdata postinst seems to be broken.
[11:15] <dgjones> ncfi1013, i'd suggest asking in #kubuntu and asking about hiding the mounted volumes visible on your desktop, that should let somebody help you solve that
[11:15] <ionstorm> how do I reduce video tearing with nvidia cards
[11:15] <ani1> egoleo: that doesnt look to be in the repo however their is a bygfoot. if you want that certain package you should probably look at their website for instructions on how to compile
[11:16] <bazhang> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubiquity/ubiquity_1.6.8.tar.gz spsneo
[11:16] <egoleo> ok
[11:16] <spsneo> thanks bazhang
[11:16] <icesword> bazhang, hi
[11:17] <Matyy> hej
[11:17] <MrGray> Is there a way to do the @ £ $ {[ ]signs etc in ubuntu if it doenst work on the keyboard somehow? ALT gr won't work
[11:17] <bazhang> spsneo: no problem; if you want the entire source code of the live cd (not just packages) shipit may send it to you (used to be the case, not sure if it still is)
[11:17] <egoleo> i want one similar fifa
[11:17] <ani1> kraut: have you tried to force install?
[11:17] <beltran> i just googled it, but is there no live linux suport at all? i mean i saw some phone uposrt on ubuntu's site but its $250, anyone know for sure of one thats a lil cheaper?
[11:18] <crashhandler> beltran u can pay anyone here for live support as low as 249 ^_^
[11:19] <kraut> ani1: no
[11:19] <beltran> ok how do you want the money sent?
[11:19] <icesword> hoho
[11:19] <bazhang> beltran: he is joking
[11:19] <beltran> and do i still need to call you or will you take that out of the cash
[11:19] <kraut> ani1: you mean apt-get -f upgrade?
[11:19] <beltran> oh
[11:19] <icesword> !us
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <crashhandler> bazhang hi! ive just switch to ubuntu yesterday!
[11:19] <crashhandler> hehe
[11:20] <ani1> apt-get -f install
[11:20] <icesword> i really have to browse ubotu; brain anyway
[11:20] <ani1> kraut: sorry for not nick highlighting... apt-get -f install
[11:20] <kraut> ani1: that won't work
[11:20] <kraut> root@kaya:/etc/apt# /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.config configure 2007k-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:20] <ani1> kraut: same error?
[11:20] <kraut> root@kaya:/etc/apt# echo $?
[11:20] <kraut> that's exactly the problem
[11:20] <kraut> 1
[11:20] <beltran> but does anyone know of a live tech suport or is there no such thing?
[11:21] <bazhang> beltran: what is your issue? perhaps we can help
[11:21] <Javid> beltran, this is it, good luck
[11:21] <hyw> HinHin: still there?
[11:21] <kraut> @ ani1
[11:21] <allam> when i try to restart apache2 i get this error when itry to restart the apache i get this error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[11:22] <tsairox>  can anyone help me with my xorg.conf file?  I don't know what's going on, but I'm still in low graphics mode after installing nvidia drivers, enabling restricted drivers and restarting. My xorg.conf looks like: http://pastebin.com/m7e2f89ce
[11:22] <robd> allam - it's not an error, more a warning
[11:22] <beltran> wifi, i already asked, and i arleady hit google, atheros wifi aint working but it says it has a driver, but when i type iwconfig it shows nothing
[11:22] <bazhang> tsairox: how did you install the drivers and for what card
[11:22] <ani1> allam: check /etc/hosts should be <IP_ADDRESS> in your httpd
[11:23] <allam> ani1:how i can do this please
[11:23] <tsairox> bazhang:  i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and system>admin>restricted drivers
[11:24] <ani1> kraut: eh i dont have any further suggestions theirs a bug filed for it but it states the fix is in gutsy and hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/164254
[11:25] <nunomdc> how can i see the programs that are running?
[11:25] <kraut> ani1: i know that report but it's not fixed.
[11:25] <kraut> ani1: i have this issue with every of my desktop
[11:26] <kraut> or what do the meyn with gutsy-updates?
[11:26] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg tsairox you mean this?
[11:26] <ani1> allam: your apache config files are under /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and apache2.conf check your ServerName fields they should either be <IP_ADDRESS> or an internal ip then check to make sure, if using a domain, that its set correctly in /etc/hosts you manually edit these files
[11:26] <tsairox> bazhang: yes
[11:26] <kraut> ani1: ah, gutsy-updates is a complete new distro
[11:27] <kraut> oh dear, that sucks hell...
[11:27] <kraut> "Bug #164254, first reported on 2007-11-21"
[11:27] <kraut> without any comments :/
[11:27] <tsairox> bazhang:  i logged out, restarted and am still in low graphics mode
[11:27] <ani1> kraut: it seems that chaning the locale should fix it
[11:27] <ani1> kraut: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-574929.html
[11:27] <ani1> kraut: they keep pointing to a dead launchpad bug
[11:28] <HinHin> hyw, yup?
[11:28] <bazhang> tsairox: have you also done this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:28] <la-perr> beltran: modprobe ath_pci
[11:28] <tsairox> bazhang: yes
[11:29] <beltran> was i suposed to get feed back after entering that
[11:29] <b47619> I can only start ubuntu alpha 6 in a failsafe gnome session.
[11:29] <la-perr> beltran: do lamod in terminal
[11:29] <beltran> it just went to a new line with no confermation or error messages,
[11:29] <b47619> and I can't change the screen resolution.
[11:29] <beltran> command not found
[11:29] <ani1> kraut: theirs also this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654450
[11:30] <la-perr> sbeltran:orry lsmod beltran
[11:30] <b47619> whst happens is I start a normal session, I login it shows the background none of the menubars load and then it take sme back to the login screen.
[11:30] <beltran> oh wow, thats alot of stuff
[11:31] <lonian> ㅂㅈㄷ
[11:31] <ani1> lonian: english only
[11:31] <la-perr> is ath_pci there
[11:31] <Javid> !languages
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <bazhang> b47619: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:31] <Javid> !en
[11:31] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:31] <ani1> eh hes gone
[11:31] <antonsky> hi guys
[11:31] <antonsky> ive got an ati rage
[11:32] <antonsky> and tvout doesnt work with atitvout
[11:32] <beltran> yes, across from wlan it is there
[11:32] <kraut> ani1: seems to be usefull. gimme a moment
[11:32]  * Lunks gives kraut
[11:32] <antonsky> need help
[11:32] <alper> !w32codecs
[11:32] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:32] <allam> ani1:i cant display phpmyadmin the address localhost/phpmyadmin show me "not found" message
[11:32] <ani1> allam: does apache start?
[11:33] <ani1> allam: ps -A | grep apache
[11:33] <allam> yes
[11:33] <ani1> allam: did you set apache on a different port?
[11:33] <allam>  9056 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <allam>  9060 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <allam>  9061 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <allam>  9062 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <allam>  9063 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <allam>  9064 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[11:33] <FloodBot3> allam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <beltran> was that a bad thing that ath_pci is there?
[11:33] <allam> this is the result
[11:33] <bibstha> guys how do i access a ubuntu server from windows one
[11:33] <ani1> k allam next time pastebin so you dont get temp banned
[11:33] <bibstha> like open a window that shows the desktop of ubuntu from windows
[11:34] <nephish> hey all, i have a static ip defined in /etc/network/interfaces, and when i restart the network, gives me the right ip, but later, it gets a different ip address automatically.
[11:34] <la-perr> beltran: driver for your card i think
[11:34] <allam> ani1:no
[11:34] <jpatrick> !vnc | bibstha
[11:34] <ubotu> bibstha: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:34] <nephish> how do i stop the computer from getting a different ip?
[11:35] <ani1> does the document root match where you have extracted phpmyadmin?
[11:35] <allam> ok how i can remove php,mysql,apache2,phpmyadmin from my machine
[11:35] <bibstha> jpatrick: vnc shows the complete gnome-session?
[11:35] <ani1> allam:
[11:35] <jpatrick> bibstha: yeah
[11:35] <beltran> ok so the driver is there, and its listed in "restricted drivers" but under networking or with iwconfig, its not, dosent show a wifi thing at all
[11:35] <allam> ani:1ok how i can remove php,mysql,apache2,phpmyadmin from my machin
[11:35] <bibstha> jpatrick: htnkas
[11:35] <bibstha> thanks i meant
[11:35] <jpatrick> :)
[11:36] <ani1> allam: either through synaptics or sudo apt-get remove apache2 php5 phpmyadmin
[11:36] <ani1> also add mysql
[11:36] <ani1> use tab tab to find the version you have installed allam
[11:37] <la-perr> beltran: try ifconfig
[11:38] <beltran> shows lo and eth0
[11:38] <la-perr> no atho
[11:38] <allam> ani1:after removing them from my machine the address http://localhost/ still working successfully
[11:38] <beltran> sorry if i seem like i dont know anything, but i dont
[11:38] <la-perr> *0
[11:39] <allam> ani1:this mean that the apache2 is still running
[11:39] <ani1> allam: hm sounds like apache didnt get completely removed... probably so you can execute sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop  then i would suggest opening synaptics and ensuring all the packages are removed
[11:40] <foldart> and clear your browser cache
[11:41] <beltran> and im googling it also, but i cant make heads or tails on what there taling about in these forums, im realy trying here, but....... maybe i should come back tomorow, im getting realy well, add agood swear word here and thats about how im feeling, sorry, i know this aint the drama channel but, man, theres no user groups within well im guessing here but about 500 miles, and im not sure if im typing the right stuff in, and none of what ive read
[11:41] <belkinhelp2> !pastebin
[11:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:43] <bazhang> tsairox: it seems your horizsync and vertrefresh are too low you might try uppin them a bit
[11:43] <la-perr> beltran: system >> admin:>>network give that a try
[11:44] <tsai> bazhang: ok, i'll try it.  what should i set them to maybe?
[11:44] <beltran> oh i did that first thing, but ill try again
[11:44] <belkinhelp2> can anyone help me with alsa?
[11:44] <belkinhelp2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60142/
[11:44] <beltran> yep, still dont list no wifi thing
[11:44] <belkinhelp2> no idea why my center/bass isnt working
[11:44] <beltran> just dial up and ethernet
[11:45] <beltran> id realy like to get the onboard one going but does anyone know of a wifi card say from walmart or bestbuy that works out of the box?
[11:46] <arkon> hello, how can i share my internet connection with another computer that's running windows xp?
[11:46] <bazhang> tsai: mine is set to 30-84 and 56-76 respectively; I do have the 7300 card so not sure if your card supports that high
[11:46] <slackd00d> !e17
[11:46] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[11:46] <tsai> bazhang: i'll try that
[11:47] <arkon> hello, how can i share my internet connection with another computer that's running windows xp?
[11:47] <benpicco> !gatewa
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gatewa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <benpicco> !gateway
[11:50] <benpicco> arkon: you have to set up an gateway
[11:50] <benpicco> arkon: therefore you need the packages dnsmasq and ipmasq
[11:51] <bazhang> beltran: what does lspci list your card as? 5006 or 5007
[11:53] <arkon> ok i installed them , what next?
[11:54] <benpicco> arkon: then you have to set up masquerading by sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[11:54] <benpicco> you have to enable ip forwarding by sudo sysctl -w net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[11:54] <benpicco> then you restart masquerading sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[11:54] <benpicco> and reconfigure ipmasq sudo dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq
[11:55] <sarthor> i have created xp cd image on nero "Image.nrg", now i want to write the image on a disk via K3B, but the K3b is unable to identify that iamge is an iso, how can i write this image as proper way, i am using ubuntu now.
[11:55] <benpicco> then you can set your client pc to get it's settings by dhcp
[11:55] <benpicco> sarthor: there is nero4linux, i wonder if you can convert .nrg files
[11:56] <Pici> !info nrg2iso | sarthor this too
[11:56] <ubotu> sarthor this too: nrg2iso (source: nrg2iso): Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:56] <arkon> what do i chose in configure ipmasq dialogue?
[11:56] <arkon> do you wish to have ipmasq recompute.... etc?     yes ?
[11:57] <dgjones> sarthor, as Pici  suggested https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5979
[11:57] <pulseezar> hello everyone, I have a graphics problem on my laptop and was hoping there would be someone around to give me a hand?
[11:57] <arkon> do you wish to have ipmasq recompute.... etc?     yes or no ?
[11:57] <bazhang> !who | arkon
[11:57] <ubotu> arkon: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[11:58] <Dougal> Trying to download Realplayer. I've downloaded a .Bin file which is supposed to be the 'installer' for the linux/x86 release of Realplayer. What should I be doing with the file? Total linux newb. Till now I've only Installed things I can find in the Synaptic Package Manager
[11:58] <J-_> !realplayer | Dougal
[11:58] <ubotu> Dougal: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:01] <Dougal> J-_: The question was really about installing. I have a .BIN "installer" and i don't know what to do with it. Do those links have anything in there?
[12:01] <kraut> ani1: can't fix that issue with tzdata. a downgrade won't work and i'm allready using gutsy-updates.
[12:02] <Dougal> I'd like to learn how to install things if i can't find them in the manager *anyway* so i really want to do it this way if I can.
[12:02] <InfoHunteR> hi , iam trying to using Tor , but its not work , whats problem
[12:02] <dgjones> Dougal, on the first link in ubotu's list, click video and the realplayer
[12:02] <whitehat_> Hello, I need some major help! Just installed ubuntu after using debian and it is so much coller! but.. when I open an application it dosen't have the little x at the top of the application or a bar for me to movie it around
[12:02] <pulseezar> maybe it's better if I just go ahead and ask! I'm running xubuntu (the xubuntu irc channel is pretty dead) on a laptop with a faulty graphics card. It works fine without any graphics drivers installed but this restricts the maximum display resolution. It's a 17inch screen so I want to know if it's possible to force the resolution up somehow and how to do that.
[12:03] <beltran> sorry i just got back lspci lists atheros comunications, Inc ar5006eg
[12:03] <genius> hello! How to check my disk for errors?
[12:04] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4259805&postcount=14 beltran you seen this link?
[12:04] <beltran> yes i think ive been there, ill read it again
[12:04] <whitehat_> could somone please just tell me how to movie applications around the screen?
[12:04] <J-_> Dougal: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html#installing_a_package_manually Do a  CTRL+F, type bin, click next til you find what you need. Twas a simple google.
[12:05] <pulseezar> @white hat: erm...just click and hold on the top bar of the application window and drag?
[12:05] <whitehat_> there is not a top bar of the application windows
[12:06] <whitehat_> that's my problem man
[12:06] <dgjones> whitehat_, are you using compix?
[12:06] <pulseezar> oops sorry!
[12:06] <dgjones> whitehat_, are you using compiz (even)?
[12:06] <Dougal> J-_: Thanks :)
[12:06] <tsai> bazhang:  I luckily saved an old xorg.conf file on my server from last year and did wget for that file.  then did cp that file over xorg.conf and everything is normal again.  I'm just trying to get dual view now
[12:07] <whitehat_> yeah, I think it came with compiz
[12:07] <beltran> nope, i cant do this, i need to download some tarball and try and install that, ive tried that in the past and dont have a clue
[12:07] <whitehat_> because it looks like compiz
[12:07] <bobslaede> hey guys, i have a small issue with an exim4 mta, apparently, when i try to send emails to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and my servers hostname is domain.com, exim4 tries to deliver theres mails locally... can i change that?
[12:07] <bazhang> tsai: good to hear ;]
[12:07] <beltran> does anyone know of a wifi card that works out of the box with ubuntu, something i can pick up from walmart or bestbuy?
[12:07] <dgjones> whitehat_, i should have said its Desktop Effects now, wobbly windows etc
[12:07] <tsai> bazhang: do you have dual monitors working?
[12:10] <evil> всем привет! если какие-то програмы для работы БД созданной с поомщью опенофиса?
[12:10] <Pici> !ru | evil
[12:10] <ubotu> evil: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:10] <dgjones> whitehat_, have a look at reply no 7 in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454969 sounds like thats an answer to your problem
[12:12] <Sturback> chan ita?
[12:12] <beltran> isnt there any wifi cards for linux? they all seem to need ndiswrapper of some driver thats only available from source, id just like one that can run out of the box if there is such a thing
[12:13] <PriceChild> beltran: only the minority require ndiswrapper thesedays ime
[12:13] <Sturback> chan ita please?
[12:13] <J-_> beltran: Intel Wireless cards rock.
[12:13] <Sturback> italy
[12:13] <beltran> what brands tho
[12:13] <danand> !it | Sturback
[12:13] <ubotu> Sturback: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:13] <Sturback> tnk
[12:13] <beltran> or is that a brand
[12:13] <PriceChild> beltran: you should be asking about chipsets
[12:13] <whitehat_> it didn't help me!!!!
[12:13] <Sturback> join #ubuntu-it
[12:13] <beltran> they dont list chipsets on the box
[12:14] <tsai> beltran: go to newegg.com and check out the SMCs they have great linux support
[12:14] <v3ctor> beltran: go to bestbuy and walmart, see what models they have, then look them up
[12:14] <J-_> beltran:  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG is nice, but it's in my lappy.
[12:14] <dgjones> whitehat_, have you restarted X ?
[12:15] <beltran> well whos using a wifi card now? if anyone is, what brand and model is it?
[12:15] <whitehat_> x what? chat no
[12:15] <whitehat_> man ubuntu sucks won't eve let me  move my borders
[12:15] <J-_> !hardware | beltran
[12:15] <ubotu> beltran: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:15] <dgjones> whitehat_, I mean gnome, for the change in your xorg.conf to take effect, you need to restart gnome
[12:15] <v3ctor> beltran: i use the integrated Intel on my current laptop, but i also have a Cisco card at home that works great
[12:16] <whitehat_> that command was not found so it dosen't matter
[12:17] <beltran> darm, sorry im at the end of a rope here, sounds like i need to buy every model on the shelfs and maybe one will work?
[12:17] <danand> beltran - i use a pcmcia card for my laptop - Model is Belkin G Plus Mimo FSD9010. This uses the ralink RT61 driver, and works out of the box with 7.10.
[12:17] <Lunks> Could someone please handle me a /etc/battery default file? Looks like I messed up mine. :P
[12:17] <beltran> thank you so much dadand
[12:17] <schnootop> anyone know of a good ssh gui. On windows i used to use winscp
[12:17] <v3ctor> beltran: just write down the model/rev of the ones that you see on the shelf
[12:18] <danand> beltran - np :) - Wireless can be a minefield
[12:18] <beltran> sucks i cant use the onboard one, well i could if i had a phd in programming but
[12:18] <benpicco> schnootop: ssh gui? why not just use ssh?
[12:18] <allam> please i have a problem and i want anyone to solve it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60145/
[12:18] <schnootop> benpicco, i like the ability to drag and drop files into the designated folder
[12:19] <la-perr> beltran: get the madwifi source and compile it
[12:19] <whitehat_> please omg please tell me how to fix this crap
[12:19] <J-_> schnootop: Just use Nautilus for SSH
[12:19] <beltran> compile it? it would be easier for me to design and build one from scratch
[12:19] <benpicco> schnootop: try sshfs
[12:19] <Lunks> help please
[12:19] <v3ctor> schnootop: have you tired filezilla? I think it does sftp
[12:19] <Lunks> =P
[12:19] <beltran> probably quicker to
[12:19] <Lunks> Could someone please handle me a /etc/battery default file? Looks like I messed up mine.  Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:27] <vignesh> is it possible to install kde in existing ubuntu with kubuntu live cd??
[12:27] <ubuntu> can any1 please tell me where xchat is installed in ubuntu
[12:27] <Lunks> Could someone please handle me a /etc/battery default file? Looks like I messed up mine. :P
[12:28] <ubuntu> i want to install fish for xchat
[12:28] <vignesh> ubuntu, applications -> internet -> xchat
[12:28] <benpicco> vignesh: yes, you can add the cd to the sources by apt-cd an then install the desktop by sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <J-_> vignesh: do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[12:28] <vignesh> J-_, ya i do..
[12:28] <ubuntu> thats the path or _
[12:28] <Lyricaldogg> anyone:vignet: lol
[12:28] <vignesh> benpicco, how do i add the cd to the sources.list ??
[12:28] <ubuntu> thanks anyways
[12:28] <J-_> vignesh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <J-_> wouldn't that work?
[12:29] <legend2440> beltran: have you seen this?   http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/atheros-ar5006eg-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[12:29] <Lunks> J-_: I picked you out randomly, could you check to see if /etc/acpi/battery exists?
[12:29] <benpicco> vignesh: run apt-cdrom or use the graphical interface
[12:29] <J-_> kubuntu-desktop being the metapackage
[12:29] <vignesh> J-_, i have a slow internet connection.. the download is about 450 megs including all the kde appz..
[12:29] <vignesh> benpicco, ty..
[12:29] <Rismo> it's my first time on Ubuntu \O/
[12:29] <J-_> vignesh: =\ Ah sorry.
[12:29] <danand> ubuntu - type "which xchat" in a terminal to find where the xchat program is on your system
[12:30] <beltran> no legend i havent, but it just shows up as a blank white page
[12:30] <bob_> Same here greetings all
[12:30] <crashhandler> \(^_^)\  /(^_^)/  yeay!
[12:30] <beltran> which is realy weird as i could see the page source
[12:30] <vignesh> benpicco, wat line do i have to install in the sources.list to add the cd?
[12:30] <Lunks> could someone please check if there is /etc/acpi/battery on your system? =~
[12:31] <dgjones> whitehat_, I'm guessing that your Toshiba has ATI graphics, this thread http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=656249 suggests that adding the line "Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to your xorg.conf and restarting X should solve the problem, I've got to go, but hope that helps
[12:31] <Lyricaldogg> danad : ubuntu : better type whereis xchat.... den u can all d diferent archives
[12:32] <vignesh> wat line do i have to install in the sources.list to add the cd?
[12:33] <beltran> well im off people, thanks for trying, i may be back tomorow to ask again, im to flustered to do any good anymore today but i sincerely apreciate the help even tho i dont show it right now, i just dont get this linux thing at all tho, and im afraid i never will i guess that answers the question of how stupid i realy am, i mean, i google, i see theres fixes, but when i follow the directions i dont get the same result, i just dont know where im
[12:34] <vignesh> wat line do i have to install in the sources.list to add the cd?
[12:34] <HardyOne> !aptcd
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[12:34] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:34] <Lyricaldogg> beltram : i'v just logged in so how can i help u ?
[12:34] <danand> Lunks - nope - i got a directory battery.d/ and a couple of files - batterybtn.sh and thinkpad-lockorbattery.sh
[12:34] <benpicco> vignesh: there should be a tool like apt-cdrom which reads the conten of your cd
[12:35] <vignesh> benpicco, cant it be done directly with synaptic?
[12:35] <benpicco> vignesh: it can, if you go to software reposities you should be able to add cdroms
[12:36] <HardyOne> vignesh, you can add the cd as a repo from Software Sources
[12:36] <danand> vignesh - I have: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
[12:36] <benpicco> (don't have it here right now vignesh )
[12:36] <vignesh> benpicco, anyways.. ty.. :)
[12:36] <vignesh> danand, ty..
[12:37] <danand> vignesh - probably better to use the other suggestions ie sources manager, just in case you have a different version of the cd
[12:37] <stefano_> i created a samba share on a computer, now its asking me (from another one) for a password, neither the admins password nor anything else i can remember work. does samba set a default password or something?
[12:38] <vignesh> danand, no probz. i ve got the sources.list updated.. but doesn't the kubuntu live cd have the kubuntu-desktop package??
[12:38] <Lyricaldogg> vignesh : y nt try app>add & rem software ????
[12:38] <J-_> !samba | stefano_
[12:38] <ubotu> stefano_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:38] <danand> vignesh - yes it should do :)
[12:38] <vignesh> danand, nope.. it doesn't have it.. :(
[12:39] <Lyricaldogg> vignesh : wor r u tryin 2 do ? i just wuld like 2 no 2 c if i can help
[12:39] <danand> vignesh - run sudo apt-get update and try again
[12:39] <bsdnewb07> hey guys
[12:39] <bsdnewb07> how do i create a tar.gz from tar command line
[12:40] <bsdnewb07> say i wanna turn  /vm/ubuntu  into a tarball?
[12:40] <erUSUL> !u | Lyricaldogg
[12:40] <ubotu> Lyricaldogg: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[12:40] <SliMM> some times my ubuntu freezes when i click the "turn off" button
[12:40] <SliMM> what can i do about this?
[12:40] <vignesh> danand, ok lemme try..
[12:41] <Lyricaldogg> ubotu : i am a government officer .... lol
[12:41] <SliMM> anyone?
[12:41] <J-_> bsdnewb07: http://www.cpqlinux.com/tar.html
[12:42] <pochi_> ehllo
[12:42] <Toznoshio> Q: Where can I get a launcher that looks like this? http://dserban01.googlepages.com/launcher.png
[12:42] <pochi_> hello
[12:42] <danand> stefano_ - did you run the smbpasswd command on the machine you set up samba on? You need to add the user for whom you create the share to this data base (run smbpasswd -a username). You'll be prompted to add the users password. then enable the account (run smbpasswd -e username). Hope that helps.
[12:42] <lordleemo> bsdnewb07: man tar in a terminal and read the manual
[12:43] <stefano_> danand, thanks!
[12:43] <pochi_> can I ask something about time zones in ubuntu 6.06?
[12:43] <stefano_> yes you can
[12:43] <erUSUL> |ask | pochi_
[12:43] <erUSUL> !ask | pochi_
[12:43] <ubotu> pochi_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[12:43] <pochi_> good!
[12:43] <vignesh> when i try to install package from live cd, it says, "please use apt-cdrom to make this cd recognised by apt" .. how do i use that command.. ??
[12:44] <pochi_> I am running an Ubuntu 6.06 server
[12:44] <pochi_> when I change the zone with tzselect or tzconfig every thing goes OK
[12:45] <pochi_> but when I restart the serve it has the same timezone before the change
[12:45] <pochi_> sorry my english is terrible
[12:45] <stefano_> please try to keep your question in one line, otherwise it is very hard to follow
[12:45] <pochi_> OK
[12:45] <danand> stefano_ - you'll need to sudo those commands - ie sudo smbpasswd etc. And no problem. This catches _everyone_ out first time they set up a samba share - samba maintains its own password data base. Its kind of annoying that your not told about these steps... perhaps there should be a hint in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file :)
[12:46] <stefano_> danand, it has worked, i assumed i had to sudo it.
[12:46] <danand> stefano_ - cool :)
[12:46] <Lyricaldogg> !u | erUSUL
[12:46] <ubotu> erUSUL: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[12:46] <Lyricaldogg> lol
[12:46] <stefano_> danand, why the heck does it have to be so hard
[12:46] <stefano_> ?
[12:47] <stefano_> oh my word it's snowing :(
[12:47] <Lyricaldogg> stefano_ pick up ur board and enjoy it
[12:48] <stefano_> :>
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> stefano_, always sudo when you are doing big sys changes. it makes sense
[12:48] <stefano_> i didnt mean sudo
[12:48] <stefano_>  i meant sharing files
[12:48] <vignesh> i dont find the kubuntu-desktop package in kubuntu 7.10 live cd.. will it not be there?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> stefano_, cos you have more control which needs setting up
[12:48] <pochi_> OK, I ask again, I change the time zone in my ubuntu 6.06 server, with tzconfig, but when I restart the server It does not save the changes I did
[12:48] <stefano_> isnt there a solution that uses the whatever its name was linux version of bonjour?
[12:49] <stefano_> to make it really easy i mean
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> stefano_, it does need streamlining but once you get your head round whats happening its simple
[12:49] <danand> stefano_ - this is a problem i've seen time after time.... it could certainly be easier. Perhaps a message should be output to the user when they install the smb server that they must perform these steps ... or else a big hint in the config file
[12:49] <nunomdc> help, the shut down and restart options are gone, I can only do it by the console
[12:49] <Stupid^Kid> i create a new user jabber for jabberd2, but after su jabber, you can just see "$" and i can't use the function of auto patch such as "Tab Tab" which should show all the command but refused! who can i deal with it
[12:50] <crashhandler> \(^_^)\  /(^_^)/  yeay!
[12:50] <stefano_> danand, i think i can see the problem with samba, and why you have to perform these steps. but i'd like to see some kind of bonjour'esque solution for that in the future.
[12:50] <stefano_> if that makes any sense
[12:50] <J-_> nunomdc: Are the panels gone?
[12:50] <danand> nunomdc - right click on the panel and choose the add to panel option.
[12:51] <danand> nunomdc - you should be able to re add the "Quit" button
[12:51] <fx|RabBi2> if i apt-get install -d some package, where does apti hide it??
[12:51] <pochi_> any help with timezones?
[12:51] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^kid : have u tried $ sudo -s ?
[12:52] <vignesh> can i install kubuntu-desktop in existing ubuntu using kubuntu live cd??
[12:52] <bo-dick> hi
[12:52] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: i use sudo bash
[12:52] <nunomdc> is not that, the button is there but when i click i only have the log of/out, suspend and hibernate
[12:52] <bo-dick> is my nvidia-settings tool supposed to look like this? http://imagebin.org/15026
[12:52] <danand> fx|RabBi2 - /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:52] <fx|RabBi2> vignesh: apt-cdrom add then apt-get install kdesktop
[12:52] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : no idea lol
[12:53] <fx|RabBi2> danand: thanx but i dont find it in there can it be that it has a completely different name?-.-
[12:53] <danand> fx|RabBi2 - what package is is?
[12:53] <vignesh> fx|RabBi2 , it says couldnt find package kdesktop
[12:53] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: i think some group may solve this problem ,but i don't sure
[12:53] <Stupid^Kid> which one
[12:54] <vignesh> fx|RabBi2 , also it coudnt find kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <fx|RabBi2> danand: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-1-686
[12:54] <fx|RabBi2> vignesh: kde?
[12:54] <bo-dick> is my nvidia-settings tool supposed to look like this? http://imagebin.org/15026
[12:54] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : is your problem not being able to "tab tab" or not having the root permitions ?
[12:55] <vignesh> fx|RabBi2 , that doesnt work too :(
[12:55] <pochi_> Is there another channel where I can ask about timezone?
[12:55] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: the former
[12:55] <fx|RabBi2> vignesh: kde-base???
[12:56] <danand> fx|RabBi2 - are you running 8.04 - i can't even see the package
[12:56] <vignesh> fx|RabBi2 , nope.. doesnt work
[12:56] <Toznoshio> Q: Where can I get a launcher that looks like this? http://dserban01.googlepages.com/launcher.png
[12:56] <fx|RabBi2> danand 7.10
[12:56] <`m0> Hello, I am wondering the network manager for wireless works great but if there is a network id which already exists such as, 'linksys' there are two networks, it just shows 1 network
[12:56] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: i just want to create a new user without root permission but be able to "tab tab"
[12:56] <Stupid^Kid> this is the function of shell
[12:56] <Stupid^Kid> auto patch maybe
[12:58] <dgjones> Toznoshio, that looks like Avant WIndow Navigator http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navgator-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html
[12:58] <danand> fx|RabBi2 - I'm running 7.10 too. Most recent kernel I have is 2.6.22 rather than 2.6.24. Have you enabled a different repository from the default ones?
[12:58] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : what i find is that the "tab tab" only works to fulfill pretyped commands or to predict a sentence in this especific case, it may be that because you have'nt yet exerced any commands with your new user
[12:59] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : you will not be able to.... I THINK
[12:59] <fx|RabBi2> danand: yes i have it comes from a cd..
[12:59] <Toznoshio> dgjones, thanks, I'll try that
[12:59] <nunomdc> problem solved
[13:00] <bo-dick> is my nvidia-settings tool supposed to look like this? http://imagebin.org/15026
[13:00] <danand> fx|RabBi2 - ok. that explains that then... :)
[13:00] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: ok , i want to change pwd to /usr/share for example ,but when i write cd  /us and  use the "tab" , it also won't work
[13:01] <dock-liker> hello! can anybody help me with avant-window-navigator?
[13:04] <pochi_> ok I will ask again
[13:04] <pochi_> I have problems reconfiguring timezone in ubuntu 6.06, can some one help mi?
[13:04] <P4NNY89> Does anyone happen to know where can i find the Lynx Black icon theme? It used to be on gnome-look.org
[13:05] <Dr_willis> !awn
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:05] <Dr_willis> dock-liker,  ive seen several ubuntu tutorial/guide sites that detail installing that bit of trash. :) (i hate the tool)
[13:05] <tiax> I want to import a VirtualPC image into vmware server, but there's no "import" button in menu "File" - I use vmware server from ubuntu partner repos (1.04) - is this a feature of 1.05?
[13:06] <lordleemo> P4NNY89: http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Lynx-Black?content=77127&PHPSESSID=f1e40d24ee1a638ef59285b1b2112782
[13:06] <dgjones> dock-liker, Dr_willis Here's here's a link that might be useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navgator-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html
[13:06] <dock-liker> Dr_willis, i`ve also seen many sites, but i still cant find working repository((
[13:06] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : i'm now having a look
[13:06] <dock-liker> ehm...
[13:06] <Dr_willis> dock-liker,  wait for the next release. its in the normal repos.
[13:07] <P4NNY89> thank you lordleemo
[13:07] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: thank you
[13:07] <dock-liker> dgjones and  Dr_willis, thanx, but i`m using feisty))
[13:07] <SliMM> does anyone know a good swf converter?
[13:07] <kraut> what the fuck is wrong with this ubuntu
[13:08] <kraut> GAH
[13:08] <kraut> i'm all the day working on to fix this tzdata issue
[13:08] <kraut> and it's getting more worst
[13:08] <kraut> it's time to install solaris10 on my desktops...
[13:08] <jrib> kraut: explain the issue on a single line without language instead of just ranting please
[13:09] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : # enable bash completion in interactive shells
[13:09] <Lyricaldogg> #if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
[13:09] <Lyricaldogg> #    . /etc/bash_completion
[13:09] <Lyricaldogg> #fi
[13:09] <Lyricaldogg> have you made this enable ?
[13:09] <kraut> jrib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/164254
[13:09] <lab^rat> !language | kraut
[13:09] <ubotu> kraut: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:09] <kraut> lab^rat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/164254
[13:09] <kraut> it's not fixed in gutsy-updates!
[13:09] <kraut> a downgrade won't work
[13:09] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: that is i must make a home dirctroy for my new user and edit the .bashrc?
[13:10] <kraut> lab^rat: fixing a problem which is half a year old isn't family friendly!
[13:10] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : just copy it over from an existing user to the new user
[13:11] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: yes, thanks for your helping me ,but i didn't create the jabber home directory, so can i deal in the  same way
[13:12] <lab^rat> kraut: it's the most comfortable situation to sit and wait...
[13:12] <jrib> kraut: pastebin 'apt-cache policy tzdata'
[13:13] <notebook> hi everyone--i usually use gnome but have decided to test out KDE.  does anyone know if i can configure Kontact so that it runs the same in both enviroments?
[13:13] <kraut> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m778e435f
[13:13] <kraut> lab^rat: i need a system to work with and not to sit down and wait.
[13:13] <lab^rat> kraut: for the bug fix... maybe they should call you when they fix it...?
[13:13] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : kool
[13:14] <jrib> kraut: and your exact error including how you produce it?
[13:14] <lab^rat> kraut: everybody need...
[13:14] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: sorry , but can you spell in english
[13:14] <v3ctor> lab^rat: please don't throw petrol on a fire
[13:14] <lab^rat> v3ctor: ma bad srrry
[13:15] <jrib> notebook: just install kontact and use it, you don't need to do anything special
[13:15] <v3ctor> lab^rat: forgiven for now ;)
[13:15] <kraut> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m6e01ed85
[13:15] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^kid : yes i can, very well indeed, my only problem is that i speak 5 diferent languages and sometimes i do mess up, in the end of the day i am only human
[13:15] <kraut> jrib: that's the exact problem
[13:16] <kraut> jrib: everytime i call the frontend with that package-name i'll get a 1 back via echo $?.
[13:16] <jrib> kraut: pastebin your /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.postinst
[13:16] <notebook> hi jrib:  i've done that, but in KDE it doesn't have any of the settings (email, etc.) that it does in gnome.  do i have to configure it again?  mostly i'm worried about having two sets of emails piling up.
[13:16] <akshay> HELLO
[13:16] <lab^rat> v3ctor: i'm clean ;)
[13:16] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: wow , that's great . i just can speak chinese and english
[13:16] <jrib> notebook: what do you mean by "it" in your sentence?
[13:16] <notebook> jrib: Kontact
[13:17] <jrib> notebook: kontact should be using the same settings. To get to KDE, you just choose KDE at the login window and use the same user right?
[13:17] <kraut> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m4e0d5824
[13:18] <kraut> jrib: i also got a problem with exim4-base. i can't remove nor install it anymore.
[13:18] <jrib> kraut: you see it's not the same bug right?
[13:18] <Lyricaldogg> Stupid^Kid : Chinese??? Is that a new language ??? i thought it was mandarin  | lolfrenz  just kidding
[13:19] <kraut> jrib: give me a better one ;)
[13:19] <tyler_d> how do I list child processes from term?
[13:19] <kraut> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m3a5b102a
[13:19] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: lolfrenz?
[13:20] <Stupid^Kid> Lyricaldogg: i am a chinese
[13:20] <bazhang> !ot
[13:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:20] <v3ctor> tyler_d: ps -ejH
[13:20] <Winball> What codec do I need to play of .mkv ?
[13:20] <DuClare> mkv is not a codec
[13:20] <DuClare> It's the matroska container.
[13:20] <Dr_willis> Winball,  depends on the codec of the movie IN the .mkv
[13:20] <bazhang> get vlc Winball
[13:20] <Dr_willis> i play mkv's in vlc, gmplayer, and otehr players all the time.
[13:20] <tyler_d> v3ctor: ty, am I able to further that and grep for child procs spawned specifically from the parent?
[13:21] <DuClare> vlc?  No way, get mplay.re
[13:21] <DuClare> mplayer.
[13:21] <broedje> hi, i have a package here which is "in a very bad inconsistent state" , shaperd, i want to remove it, because it it blocking my upgrades....but how?
[13:21] <Moduliz0r> hi, Brasero won't burn a cd
[13:22] <v3ctor> tyler_d: let me check
[13:22] <tyler_d> v3ctor: unsure, I'm investigating a swap space issue in apache, I know there are way more child procs then what ps -ejH lists....
[13:24] <jrib> broedje: any idea how it got that way?
[13:24] <akshay> HOW TO INSTALL THEMES IN EDUBUNTU-KDE-GDM
[13:24] <jrib> !caps | akshay
[13:24] <ubotu> akshay: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[13:24] <recon69> tring to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 , tried gksu "update-manager -c"  but it installed one package and nothing else?
[13:24] <v3ctor> tyler_d: pstree -p <PID>
[13:25] <kraut> jrib: and now!?
[13:25] <dee> how do i enable multiverse resporitories
[13:25] <crashhandler> \(^_^)\  /(^_^)/  yeay!
[13:25] <Dr_willis> akshay,  you are using KDM or GDM? somthing  both have theme config tools you need to install to configure the login screen themes.
[13:25] <akshay> GDM
[13:25] <jrib> kraut: be patient
[13:25] <v3ctor> tyler_d: i wish linux had ptree from solaris, it doese a much better job than these tools
[13:25] <broedje> jrib: aptitude tries to initrd stop it when upgrading, and then it fails, i never ever configured it
[13:25] <SliMM> hello
[13:25] <broedje> because i never used it
[13:25] <recon69> hi SliMM
[13:25] <tyler_d> v3ctor: thats beautiful
[13:26] <tyler_d> v3ctor: thanks man making note of that one
[13:26] <SliMM> how can i make .exe files run with winw when i double-click them?
[13:26] <broedje> shaperd
[13:26] <SliMM> wine*
[13:26] <jrib> broedje: you can use 'dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq packagename' but you should check if anything more needs to be done to cleanly remove it
[13:26] <akshay> for using accounting software its good to have windows may be dual boot with linux
[13:26] <tyler_d> v3ctor: and it pipes even
[13:26] <bartmon> Hi. Sometimes when I forcefully kill a game which uses a resolution different than the desktop I get the desktop back but with a smaller dpi setting and i have to push the mouse cursor to move my view to see sth like the menus, widgets... Any ideas how to fix this without exiting X?
[13:26] <akshay> gdm , kde edubuntu
[13:27] <broedje> thanks jrib, i think shaperd is pretty independent, but i will examine
[13:27] <akshay> dont use wine! it hangs the system!
[13:28] <akshay>  i  have a theme in folder ,, with wallpaper , buttons how to install it?
[13:28] <bartmon> akshay: That is very rare, You can probably still kill it from a different tty
[13:28] <broedje> i never got wine
[13:29] <jrib> kraut: 'grep "^User defined$" /etc/timezone' return anything?
[13:29] <broedje> never tried that far, dont VM work better than that?
[13:29] <akshay> hey pls help
[13:29] <broedje> huh
[13:29] <akshay> how to install themes? from a folder? in kde-gdm default?
[13:29] <wizo> hey, anyone installed drqueue from teh repository? when i run it, my drqueue says that it cant find teh conf files
[13:29] <bartmon> broedje: Yes, VMs work better but you have to install Windows first. Wine is like a basic Windows clone
[13:30] <akshay> or god sake please help
[13:30] <Crusader_Tech> Wow.  My first Linux testimony.  It's little, but true.  I just connected to my server from Ubuntu for the first time, using the included Terminal Server Client. And man, it's MUCH more responsive than the one built into Windows.
[13:30] <broedje> do the formats match? akshay?
[13:30] <kraut> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m8b5b1c4
[13:30] <broedje> bartmon, ah ok
[13:30] <kraut> jrib: that's scarry
[13:30] <akshay> i dont knw
[13:30] <individual_eleve> i played a dvd on ubuntu,but the other part of it is black when im viewing full screen
[13:30] <akshay> it just shows the folder
[13:30] <bartmon> akshay: In Gnome you can drag and drop the theme into the theme list nd it will be installed
[13:30] <kraut> jrib: root@kaya:~# cat /etc/timezone
[13:30] <kraut> Europe/Paris
[13:30] <akshay> the whole folder?
[13:31] <akshay> i have downloaded in tar.gz
[13:31] <bartmon> Crusader_Tech: I usually find it the other way round but good on ya, mate!
[13:31] <bod_> akshay, drop into the apperances menu thingy
[13:31] <bartmon> akshay: Just the *.tar.gz
[13:31] <akshay> and how to set the screen resolution?
[13:31] <akshay> i have installed kde after gnome failure
[13:32] <jrib> kraut: that's fine, I'm trying to find out where it is failing in the .postinst file.  Try adding some echo statements to see how far it gets.  Understand what I am saying?  There must be a way for it to me more verbose, so you don't need to add echo statements, but I don't know how
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> akshay, what graphics card do you have?
[13:32] <bartmon> akshay: System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> akshay, just checking you are drivered up :)