[00:01] <derek-g> is ubuntu gnome - officially recognized flavor?
[00:05] <darkxst> derek-g, yes
[00:06] <derek-g> darkxst, cool. gonna try it.
[00:06] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you might need to export GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR
[00:06] <derek-g> is it sexy?
[00:07] <derek-g> whatever - gonna install it anyway:)
[00:09] <darkxst> Noskcaj, export GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR=$(CURDIR)/data
[00:10] <derek-g> I can't wait for this thing to be implemented: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
[00:14] <darkxst> derek-g, you might be waiting a while ;)
[00:14] <derek-g> darkxst, it's worth it. .. soooo atomic and awesome.
[00:14] <derek-g> darkxst, and repeatable
[00:14] <derek-g> darkxst, no more wiping my system once every 6 months cuz I want it clean
[00:15] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'll do that in a few hours, playing dota now
[00:15] <derek-g> darkxst, and chain-signed.... sexxyyy...
[00:15] <derek-g> Lennart Poettering - you're a beacon of light in otherwise dark and dreary world.
[00:17] <derek-g> nyway. thanks. im off installing gnobuntu on my sexy computer.
[00:24] <derek-g> hmm. spoke too soon
[00:24] <derek-g> guys - I need help.
[00:25] <derek-g> some install errror - posting screenshot
[00:25] <derek-g> here: http://i.imgur.com/4H6eqsX.jpg
[00:26] <derek-g> I'm just trying to isntall gnobuntu...
[00:26] <derek-g> I did dd if=iso.iso of=/dev/sdb
[00:26] <derek-g> ^And I was trying to install from usb drive
[00:29] <derek-g> here's another screenshot: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DGObOxYW-667.jpg
[00:31] <derek-g> no? nothing? :(
[00:47] <darkxst> derek-g, what GPU do you have?
[00:47] <derek-g> darkxst, intel Iris pro
[00:48] <derek-g> ntel Iris Pro graphics 5200
[00:49] <derek-g> darkxst, maybe it;s some Bios toggles? hmm
[00:49] <darkxst> derek-g, that might need a new kernel?
[00:49] <derek-g> darkxst, Im on 14.04 xubuntu right now
[00:50] <darkxst> hmm odd, that should be the same kernel
[00:50] <derek-g> darkxst, I assume if xubuntu works - gnome version should too?
[00:50] <derek-g> video was working on 13.10 as well - I was running xubuntu on 13.10
[00:50] <derek-g> darkxst, but I did reflashed bios a month ago... hmm..
[00:51] <derek-g> gonna reboot and look at bios
[00:51] <darkxst> derek-g, you could try 14.10
[00:52] <derek-g> darkxst, um..... id rather stay on stable for now.:)
[00:53] <darkxst> even just test with the live cd
[00:53] <derek-g> darkxst, it works in vitualbox on this computer even
[00:54] <darkxst> derek-g, that is irrelevant, virtualbox has its own virtual GPU
[00:55] <derek-g> darkxst, yeah. I thought so.
[01:20] <darkxst> ls
[01:28] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you may need to run the tests in autopkgtest (like  I do with tracker, libmediaart etc)
[01:46] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll do that. still playing dota
[02:24] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Any idea what's still missing? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/185326648/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.gnome-weather_3.13.92-0ubuntu1~utopic5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[02:36] <derek-g> darkxst, naah. install didn't work for me. no idea why.
[02:36] <derek-g> darkxst, seems like similar problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231824
[02:43] <derek-g> im gonna try 14.04 instead of 14.04.01
[03:13] <derek-g> It seems like this person here is having exactly the same problem I'm having: http://askubuntu.com/questions/489178/kernal-panic-on-fresh-14-04-install-on-barebone-brix-pro-i5-4570r
[03:14] <derek-g> And he's solving it by using different kernel somehow...
[03:14] <derek-g> But how can I use a different kernel for a new install?
[03:15] <darkxst> Noskcaj, for autopkgtests you leave the tests disable during package build
[03:16] <Noskcaj> just turn of dh_auto_test?
[03:16] <darkxst> Noskcaj, yep
[03:16] <Noskcaj> ok
[03:20] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you will need deps on gir1.2-geocodeglib-1.0 gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 in debian/tests/control
[03:20] <Noskcaj> ty
[03:20] <darkxst> and you will need to test locally, since autopkgtests don't run on ppa builders
[03:21] <darkxst> Noskcaj, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html
[03:22] <Noskcaj> I probably lack the internet to do that, but i'll try it later
[03:25] <darkxst> also other deps, that are only required for tests should go into debian/tests/control
[04:25] <Noskcaj> darkxst, The one in ppa:noskcaj/build should be done, i don't think i'll be able to get the autopkgtest stuff ran locally
[05:18] <GlaceonG> http://i.imgur.com/KO7xXgF.png Shadow's glitched on multiple applicatings, currently using [GNOME 3.12.3] on [Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS 32-bit]. Any solution?
[05:42] <GlaceonG> Thanks for the help.
[06:30] <darkxst> Noskcaj, tests are not passing
[06:34] <darkxst> Noskcaj, it might require internet access ;(
[06:57] <persisto> Hi just switched from Win 8.1 to Ubuntu Gnome. I love it so far! I do however need some help. I want to disab
[06:58] <persisto> Disable the userlist on the lockscreen
[06:58] <persisto> Just to be clear not the user list at logon. I already disabled that
[06:59] <persisto> But the user list when i lock my laptop
[07:00] <persisto> Basically i do not want it to show my name when i lock and reprompt me for both username and password when i want to unlock
[07:11] <persisto> Anyone?
[07:18] <persisto> Either every one is asleep or no one wants to help. I will assume the former and try again tomorrow.
[07:18] <persisto> Bye now
[17:12] <l3on> Hey.. gnome-music is missing git1.2-mediaart-1.0 dependency ... and have another problem regarding Gtk.IconTheme.get_default() http://paste.ubuntu.com/8389239/
[17:54] <ricotz> l3on, thanks
[20:48] <persisto> Hi, I just switched from Windows 8.1 to Ubuntu Gnome. I asked this question earlier but I got no response so I am back. I want to ensure that when I lock my computer the lock screen does not display the username of the logged in user. To be clear I am not talking about the initial login screen. I have already changed the settings so that login requires both username and password to login.
[20:48] <persisto> But once I am logged in and lock the machine and then unlock it. It shows my username. I want it to re-prompt for the username. Any help wil be much appreciated. Thank you.


[10:23] <jonah> Hi guys, I just wanted to ask how people running server cabinets tend to power the cooling fans of the cabinet itself. I realise you can use prebuilt units, but do any users opt for standard case fans with then some kind of power supply. I know this site sell a power adapter to power 1-4 fans with just a standard ac plug socket... http://www.rackfans.com/pages/ProCooL_AV_PS/ProCooL_AV_PS.html
[10:23] <bhuddah> jonah: ordinary cabinets don't have cooling fans.
[10:25] <jonah> bhuddah: my cabinet has mounting holes for standard 120mm fans with the screw holes etc. You can fit two in the cabinet top panel...
[10:26] <patdk-lap> cabnets have cooling fans?
[10:27] <patdk-lap> never had any fans on any racks I have used
[10:30] <jorgesanjuan> Has anyone had some experience with the HP moonshot m400 server? It's arm64 and I'm trying to boot it in UEFI mode (instead of U-Boot).
[13:17] <sz332> hello
[13:17] <sz332> I try to install ubuntu server using packer behind a proxy
[13:17] <Palm_premium> ?
[13:18] <sz332> I get message: installation step failed, and it seems, that it is not able to download the packages from the internet
[13:18] <sz332> my preseed file looks like: http://pastie.org/10898517
[13:19] <sz332> any idea how i can find out whether the proxy is configured, or not, and if not, how to fix the issue?
[14:03] <cpaelzer> sbeattie: hi, just FYI (as you did the related upload back then) bug 1575220
[15:52] <mnms_> how I should properly backup software raid 1. I should make image of all devices in raid or image of raid devices (md*) ?
[18:12] <chrisan>  I'm not sure what to call this/google for.. but I am trying out 16.04 on a new VPS and I noticed when I restart a service, like nginx, there is no longer any output.  Is there a way to add this back?
[18:13] <patdk-lap> use an os without systemd?
[18:21] <velusuniverse> hello all, i have  vps on ubuntu, and i currently have apache and php on the server, if i want to send emails through smtp would i need to install something like postfix, even if im using an external smtp server ?
[18:31] <patdk-lap> velusuniverse, sure, or some kind of nullmailer
[18:32] <patdk-lap> unless you do not use the built in php mail command
[18:32] <patdk-lap> some kind of nullmailer would be most simple
[19:03] <_KaszpiR_> velusuniverse  you could use sendemial so that it uses bouncer box to send emails
[22:22] <Keyboard_> Hi
[22:22] <Keyboard_> http://pastie.org/10898890 can anyone help?


[13:08] <mgariepy> good morning everyone
[13:37] <dyllan> clear
[13:39] <dyllan> hi guys. I made such a rookie error I accidentally deleted my /opt/ltsp/i386 directory I thought I was on a different server and was going to run the sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 command.  Should i rebuild it with: sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386
[13:39] <dyllan> :(
[13:44] <mgariepy> dyllan, do you still have the /opt/ltsp/image/i386.img ?
[13:45] <mgariepy> if so you could simply unsquashfs it
[13:45] <dyllan> hi mgariepy , yes i do
[13:46] <dyllan> oh brilliant, so just unsquash it into i386 directory and ill be all set?
[13:46] <mgariepy> yeah
[13:47] <dyllan> ahh excellent, thanks so much mgariepy u saved me !
[13:47] <mgariepy> running something like this: unsquashfs -d /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
[13:47] <mgariepy> you're welcome :)
[13:48] <dyllan> cant thank you enough! :)
[13:50] <mgariepy> dyllan, you just did ;)
[13:51] <dyllan> ;-)
[17:07] <dlbass> hello alkisg, I got the monitor issue fixed. The XFCE desktop is able to wrangle this old monitor and gpu combo.
[17:07] <alkisg> Nice, though I don't remember the problem :)
[17:08] <dlbass> lol, I suppose last week is a long time ago. Do you even remember me?
[17:08] <alkisg> Yeah, and if you say which problem it was I'll remember quickly
[17:09] <alkisg> It's just difficult to map names to problems after so many problems :D
[17:09] <dlbass> Cool, it was getting all funky resolutions and being zoomed in and other such madness. Dell GX110 with old CRT monitor
[17:10] <dlbass> The computers have Intel 8 something another gpu and Gnome does not like it! Xubuntu 10.04.2 works wonderfully. Well as wonderful as a 256mb machine can.
[17:11] <alkisg> Hmm, ok, although changing the DE shouldn't matter for the client screen resolution
[17:11] <dlbass> DE?
[17:11] <dlbass> ooh
[17:11] <alkisg> Desktop environment, gnome vs xfce etc
[17:12] <dlbass> Ah, I just assumed it had a different driver.
[17:12] <alkisg> The drivers should be the same, from the same repository even
[17:13] <alkisg> Now compiz can make a difference (default in gnome, if the card supports it), but not with resolutions
[17:14] <dlbass> Ubuntu 10.04.2 does not work properly with this particular Dell monitor on any machine at all. New-ish GX520 or old GX110.
[17:14] <dlbass> The GX520 works great on LCD and newer CRT monitors.
[17:14] <dlbass> The GX110 is picky about which monitors it will work properly on.
[17:14] <dlbass> Do you think it might be a bug?
[17:23] <alkisg> Yeah, in the graphics driver
[17:30] <dlbass> Strange. Well, what I came in here today for is a wireless driver. I have a lab full of D-Link DWA-125 usb adapters. I tried a few guides on installing the driver from dlink using make and make install, but the adapter never powers on
[17:31] <dlbass> i can see it when I lsusb
[17:31] <dlbass> and after installing the driver it shows the possibility of connecting to a wireless network, but the adapter isnt on, so you cant
[17:45] <jcbm> Hello everybody
[17:46] <dlbass> greetings
[17:47] <jcbm> Please have you worked with LTSP and usb devices
[17:53] <dlbass> jcbm, Have you already looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[17:55] <dlbass> I have not had any experience with LTSP and usb devices, other than mouse and keyboard, but hopefully you will find something there.
[17:55] <jcbm> ok dlbass, thanks by your interest


[00:05] <cmaloney> brousch: Here's hoping he has many more.
[14:39] <cmaloney> morning
[15:13] <_stink_> yo
[15:23] <daemoneye> morning
[16:20] <rick_h_> morning
[17:11] <cmaloney> Howdy
[17:12] <rick_h_> how goes the weekend?
[17:13] <cmaloney> Busy
[17:13] <cmaloney> JoDee and her sister are going through photos
[17:14] <cmaloney> I'll probably get roped into doing spot-grocery shopping and photo printing
[17:14] <rick_h_> wheeee
[17:14] <cmaloney> Yeah, loads of fun
[17:14] <cmaloney> How was basketball last night?
[17:14] <cmaloney> (also: you're buying fountain pen ink? :) )
[17:15] <rick_h_> basketball was ok
[17:15] <rick_h_> the boy can't dribble, but he had fun going to the different stations
[17:15] <rick_h_> so as long as he has fun, all good
[17:15] <rick_h_> and yea, I grabbed a blue ink and really liked it vs black and then saw brown and went "hmm" and then...
[17:16] <cmaloney> heh
[17:16] <cmaloney> btw: if he decideds to go pro he doesn't need to dribble
[17:16] <rick_h_> hah
[17:16] <rick_h_> I think he needs some longer legs for that first
[17:17] <cmaloney> All I know is I never could get the hang of dribble and walk and got called on travelling more times than I can count
[17:17] <cmaloney> and now it seems you can clear the whole court without dribbling
[17:19] <rick_h_> hah
[23:20] <cmaloney> Evening
[23:57] <Scary_Guy> yup


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[12:54] <zhangguolin> ？
[12:55] <zhangguolin> who
 Can I write directly here to get support?
 Yes (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Can I write directly here to get support?)
 Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any software, until the screen gone black. Now the system doesn't boot anymore, and it's the second time
 The first time, I easily resolved the issue by reinstalling the OS, but I wanted to know if there is a way to resolve the issue without reinstalling the OS
 Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.
 The PPA I was talking about was the one the Ubuntu Studio Installer activates (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.)
 That I tried to disable through ppa-purge
 Anyway, what other information could I give?
 If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.
 A thing I noticed, when I power off the system, the command line report an I/O error on dev/SDA before powering off
 Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.
 What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC (re @kc2bez: If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.)
 Well, it happened even the first time, but I reinstalled the OS and I had no issue (re @kc2bez: Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.)
 CLI = Command line interface (re @UnrealNinjaMark: What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC)
 Uh, I could see that (re @kc2bez: CLI = Command line interface)
 Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.
 Yeap (re @kc2bez: Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.)
 What do you have for a video card?
 The one integrated in my Intel Celeron, an HD Graphics (re @kc2bez: What do you have for a video card?)
 I was saying earlier, the I/O I had the other time error disappeared when I reinstalled Lubuntu, so in theory the disk works well. What could cause this problem?
 It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.
 Should I try an fsck? (re @kc2bez: It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.)
 if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any oth
 Uh, I tried that (re @N0um3n0: if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a)
 That seems like a good idea. (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Should I try an fsck?)
 And still my system doesn't boot
 Ok (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)
 Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: And still my system doesn't boot)
 Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)
 The first one (re @kc2bez: Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases?)
 maybe some unfulfilled dependency (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems)
 Strange (re @N0um3n0: maybe some unfulfilled dependency)
 Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?
 Maybe this could resolve the problems
 If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?
 Maybe I just accidentally deleted some important packages
 I removed it, and the system still doesn't boot  😅 (re @kc2bez: If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?)
 Right but you said you reinstalled.
 sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?)
 Well, I'm pretty confused (re @kc2bez: Right but you said you reinstalled.)
 I'll try this! (re @N0um3n0: sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop)
 A thing. I wanted to do a fsck from recovery mode, but it always fails because it says the system partition is mounted. How could I resolve that?
 Or should I do fsck from live system, using my USB Ke
 You should do it from a live system.
 understood (re @kc2bez: You should do it from a live system.)
 You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.
 Yeap 😅 (re @kc2bez: You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.)
 Another thing. I had a broken package called t1-cyrillic, that the system doesn't want to remove and it gives me a bus error, an error I didn't had while removing other packages. Should I try to reinstall this package, or should I try to remove it in an another way?
 Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?
 Let me try it
 I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error (re @kc2bez: Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?)
 I got error status 135
 directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error)
 No, it doesn't (re @N0um3n0: directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it?)
 It gave me the same error
 Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.
 Understood (re @kc2bez: Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.)
 sudo dpkg --configure -a
 Done... I guess : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/4b31d3ae/file_3978.jpg
 yes it is
 Good (re @kc2bez: yes it is)
 sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r
 That arrow symbol... Where should I find it on my keyboard? (re @kc2bez: sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r)
 I can't change my keyboard language since I'm in recovery mode
 For me it is shift 6
 Never mind
 Found it!
 Dons
 sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
 And it still gives me that bus error. I'll try to do manual fsck with my live USB key and I'll let you know if it works
 hang on
 sudo apt clean
 Well, I already booted the live system. I'll try the clean command when I will return on recovery mode (re @kc2bez: sudo apt clean)
 Let me return in recovery mode 😅
 Same result. Maybe this t1-cyrillic is related to some system thing... I don't know
 sudo apt update
 I already tried it earlier on. I'll try it anyway
 Yes please. The order matters
 Done (re @kc2bez: Yes please. The order matters)
 sudo apt install -f
 And it still wants to remove that package...
 There is a way to just reinstall it?
 That should reinstall it if it is required.
 Can we see the error?
 I have the system in Italian. Is it a problem? (re @kc2bez: Can we see the error?)
 It shouldn't be.
 I'm sending the screen
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/a6557c72/file_3979.jpg
 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690 (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )
 I'm going! (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)
 I'm trying the commands of the first answer (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)
 You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.
 t1-cyrillic
 I'll try this (re @kc2bez: You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.)
 I tried the command dpkg -l | grep -v "^ii" as said in the link, and I got this list
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/303fa151/file_3980.jpg
 Oh that isn't good.
 It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.
 Try this.
 Well, and this is strange, because I use Lubuntu 20.04.. maybe it's fault of that Ubuntu Studio Installer I used Into Lubuntu (re @kc2bez: It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.)
 sudo dpkg --purge --force-all t1-cyrillic
 Nothing... same error
 I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.
 I try to reinstall the system. Thanks for your help, sir (re @kc2bez: I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.)
 👍
 hello,
 need help !
 I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please 🥺
 Try first looking the lubuntu manual
 https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/
 I just finished to backup some files I needed, and this is the only thing I can do with the installation program 😅 : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0c0b66ad/file_3982.jpg
 (And, sometimes, in similar cases partitioning always failed to me) (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )
 If you still have your disk mounted you need to unmount it before reinstalling.
 Easiest way is to just restart.
 Ok! (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)
 I recommend using the live iso to become a little familiar before installing. (re @Muhammad_Zakariya: hello,
 need help !
 I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please)
[16:02] <tomreyn> kc2bez: is this a quote? because you are not "totally new in the linux platform"
[16:03] <tomreyn> oh right it's a quotation from Muhammad
[16:03] <tomreyn> hard to tell on IRC
 Sorry tomreyn
 Telegram replies are strange on irc
[16:04] <tomreyn> hehe, no need to be sorry, it's just a result of the ... imperfect bridge
 I successfully reinstalled the system, and now it works (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)
 Perfect
[20:19] <jim_hitek> I have downloaded the 21.10 ver of Lubuntu and have tried to install it on 2 newer computers. And it's failed during every try. The Burn of the DVD went perfectly. I don't want to waste another DVD if this is a common issue. What could be the problem?
[20:20] <Maik> can't they boot from usb stick?
 did you verifu the ISO first before burning?
 failed dvd install with the iso usually means a bad ISO
[20:21] <jim_hitek> Huh? Why would that be necessary...but no, I didn't.
[20:21] <jim_hitek> The burn program said it went well.
 thats actually an unspoken rule - verify the ISO sums before using the ISO.
 https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview
[20:22] <jim_hitek> How to do that?
[20:22] <Maik> verifying the iso is a must, if the checksum doesn't match you could have a corrupt iso
[20:22] <Maik> and instead of wasting dvd's use usb sticks :)
 adapt that process for the lubuntu ISOs
[20:23] <jim_hitek> USB sticks don't fit in my DVD pouch very well. Also, they're not as inexpensive as the DVDs and you get a permanent copy for installing on multiple computers.
[20:24] <jim_hitek> Anywho, how do I check the checksum?
[20:24] <Maik> read the link that was given
 https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview
[20:24] <jim_hitek> Okay, thanks. 2nd question...
[20:25] <jim_hitek> I was trying to install Lubuntu on my backup computer and since the DVD didn't work, I downloaded and installed from the internet.
[20:26] <jim_hitek> It seemed to go well, no error messages. And when I boot, I see it says 21.10 Lubuntu
[20:26] <jim_hitek> BUT, the desktop is the exact same as before. How do I get Lubuntu to run?
[20:27] <jim_hitek> Should I see a different desktop config?
[20:28] <kc2bez[m]> jim_hitek: I don't think I understand your question. What was your previous desktop?
[20:29] <jim_hitek> Using Mate on Ubuntu 20.04.
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> How exactly did you install Lubuntu over the Internet?
[20:31] <jim_hitek> Dunno. I came here to this page, clicked on downloads...hold on...
[20:32] <jim_hitek> Err, I don't recall for sure. Lemme go check...BRB.
[20:36] <jim_hitek> It's booting, and the first splash screen after the Grub (which shows Ubuntu) shows Lubuntu, then goes black while it's booting.
[20:37] <jim_hitek> Then the pswrd screen shows up...the one I installed, then it just boots to Ubuntu. Was there supposed to be a Lubuntu boot choice somewhere, Like in Grub?
[20:38] <Maik> how did you install lubuntu over the internet....
[20:38] <jim_hitek> Dunno, just downloaded it and installed it following the install directions.
[20:39] <jim_hitek> PS I FOUND IT!
[20:39] <Maik> from where
[20:39] <jim_hitek> Don't remember from where. And official site though.
[20:39] <jim_hitek> An official site.
[20:39] <Maik> you got to know exactlay what you have done
[20:39] <Maik> otherwise we are not able to help you further
[20:40] <Maik> sorry, to me it makes no sense at all
[20:40] <Maik> 'An official site...' WHICH site
[20:40] <jim_hitek> I found it so don't need help now. It's booting to Lubuntu now. It was on the pswd page.
[20:41] <Maik> yeah right
[20:41] <jim_hitek> Or rather the link to it is there.
[20:41] <jim_hitek> And it's up and running! Yea!
[20:42] <Maik> sorry if i'm being sceptical and don't believe one single thing
[20:42] <jim_hitek> Says Lubuntu 20.04 so I'll need to upgrade.
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> Not necessarily 20.04 is an LTS and still supported.
[20:43] <jim_hitek> Aren't you the suspicious type. Me too. But in this case, what I said is perfectly true, I found it online somewhere, downloaded it, and it installed. And it's now running.
[20:43] <Maik> you said it was Lubuntu 21.10
[20:43] <Maik> now it's 20.04 all of the sudden
[20:43] <jim_hitek> I thought it was.   I do like the look of the desktop. Pretty nice.
[20:47] <jim_hitek> Buh bye.


[00:07] <UndrWater> figured it out. had to install stock OOS prior, probably to get standard partition sizes
[01:23] <UndrWater> installed, but running into OSK not showing in some areas.  I think it's related to this: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1192
[01:23] <gitbot> ubports issue 1192 in ubuntu-touch "Libertine apps don't show up keyboard on input field focus" [Closed]
[01:24] <UndrWater> not sure how to apply what's being shown there
[11:58] <CommunistWolf> hmm, trying to add "generic caldav" as an account just gives me a forever spinner


[08:13] <caraka> low priority question: I manually cancelled some builds, and now they appear at the top of the list on the recipe page, meaning I cannot see the acutal current build status'. Methinks it is because the list is alphabetical. Any way to delete the canceled builds, or non alphabetise the list?
[10:15] <cjwatson> caraka: not alphabetical, a different sorting bug.  the only way to get rid of them is to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/746140
[10:15] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 746140 in Launchpad itself "Recipe superseded source builds get stuck at top of recent builds list forever" [High,Triaged]
[16:09] <mvo> just want to mention: I got two oopses in a row from LP when trying to report bug 1752635
[16:09] <ubot5`> bug 1752635 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "[patch] Please add command-not-found hints" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752635
[16:10] <cjwatson> OOPS IDs?
[16:10] <cjwatson> but it's probably the usual thing that goes away in 10min
[16:11] <mvo> cjwatson: meh, sorry, I don't have it anymore. but yeah, three times a charm and all that. it worked now
[16:11] <mvo> (just wanted to mention, if transient thats fine with me)
[16:15] <cjwatson> Yeah, unfortunately this happens with bugs from time to time
[16:15]  * mvo nods
[20:58] <ral> Any chance someone could help me with https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/665102 ?
[21:03] <hloeung> ral: might be worth posting the output from dput as well, it might help
[21:04] <nacc> i do recall other users reporting similar silent failures when the gpg keys were 'wrong'
[21:05] <nacc> i'd need to trawl my logs to be sure
[21:05] <hloeung> ral: also, pretty sure LP uses keys from keyserver.u.c
[21:05] <nacc> cjwatson: had a branch in progress for this
[21:05] <hloeung> ral: https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x779B22DFB3E717B7
[21:05] <hloeung> ral: nothing updated recently? Maybe you need to push up your new key?
[21:05] <hloeung> s/new key/changes to your key/
[21:21] <ral> hloeung: I pushed my key to another server earlier in the year, I thought they propagated.
[21:21] <ral> I've just pushed to k.u.c, I'll give it another try.
[21:22] <hloeung> right, depends on which servers keyserver.u.c talks to and what servers the keyserver you pushed to talks to
[21:38] <ral> hloeung: I'm afraid I'm mistaken, it was another gpg key that I updated
[21:38] <hloeung> heh ok, so that might be the problem then
[21:41] <ral> Well let's say there are two problems - launchpad shouldn't swallow these errors silently, and my key might have a problem :)
[21:42] <nacc> ral: yeah the first is 'known'
[22:00] <cjwatson> nacc: I think I landed that one already
[22:00] <cjwatson> that was https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/better-upload-error-notifications/+merge/311179
[22:01] <nacc> cjwatson: oh ok, i didn't have the link handy
[22:02] <nacc> i just remembered you were working on it before :)
[22:02] <cjwatson> can't get my VPN link to come up at the moment so can't check logs
[22:02] <cjwatson> oh wait, there it is, maybe it'll work
[22:03] <cjwatson> 2018-03-01 11:17:18 INFO        GPG verification of /srv/launchpad.net/ppa-queue/incoming/upload-ftp-20180301-111651-008775/~mosquitto-dev/mosquitto-ppa/mosquitto_1.4.15-0mosquitto1~xenial1_source.changes failed: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 153, u'Key expired')", "(7, 153, u'Key expired')", "(7, 153, u'Key expired')"]
[22:03] <cjwatson> ral: does that look like the right package name/version?
[22:03] <ral> cjwatson: yep
[22:10] <cjwatson> I'll have to experiment to see how we can pick out just that one error robustly
[22:11] <cjwatson> that's a little different from my earlier fix for deactivated keys, but I think it can come under basically the same heading
[22:14] <cjwatson> anyway, yes, pushing a non-expired key to LP should help
[22:14] <cjwatson> err, to keyserver.u.c
[22:27] <nacc> cjwatson: should i be able to specify a PPA without any packages in it yet as the source for a LP snap build? for some reason, it doesn't seem to find it
[22:34] <cjwatson> nacc: if it hasn't been published yet, it may not have any index files, which will cause apt etc. to not find it
[22:34] <cjwatson> nacc: you can either publish something and delete it shortly afterwards, or a more elegant trick: load the archive in the API and call the markSuiteDirty method on it
[22:34] <nacc> cjwatson: yeah i wasn't going to trigger a build yet, just wanted to set it up
[22:34] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#archive-markSuiteDirty
[22:35] <nacc> cjwatson: to be clear, 'it' above was the launchpad web UI
[22:35] <cjwatson> oh
[22:35] <cjwatson> that should work regardless, yes
[22:35] <nacc> in the Source for automatic builds field
[22:35] <nacc> ok, i'll try again
[22:35] <cjwatson> I think.  Let me check the details
[22:35] <cjwatson> Perhaps the widget is clever
[22:36] <nacc> oh it expected a different ppa spec than i thought
[22:36] <nacc> ~sergiusens/ubuntu/snapcraft-lp1752481
[22:36] <nacc> rather than the normal sergiusens/snapcraft-lp1752481
[22:37] <cjwatson> "normal"
[22:37] <nacc> heh, the specifier you see on the ppa page
[22:37] <nacc> my own fault, i was able to find it by searching by user-prefix instead
[22:37] <cjwatson> so we can possibly update that now to the three-segment form
[22:38] <cjwatson> we had to delay a long time on that because old versions of add-apt-repository exist
[22:38] <nacc> oh of course
[22:38] <wgrant> Hm yeah, it's been nearly four years so probably.
[22:38] <cjwatson> however, the two-arg form should have worked in the search ...
[22:38] <cjwatson>             if len(query_split) == 3:
[22:38] <cjwatson>                 owner_name, distro_name, archive_name = query_split
[22:38] <cjwatson>             else:
[22:38] <cjwatson>                 owner_name, archive_name = query_split
[22:38] <nacc> cjwatson: and of course now it does
[22:39] <nacc> it didn't before, i swear :)
[22:39] <cjwatson> in fact distro_name isn't even used there
[22:39] <cjwatson> all right, I won't think about it too hard then :)
[22:39] <cjwatson> it wouldn't have worked with the ppa: prefix, which I think is a bug
[22:39] <nacc> cjwatson: yeah i'd assume PEBKAC for now
[22:39] <cjwatson> fortunately, easy to fix, will do
[22:40] <nacc> cjwatson: yeah it just feels like a 'nice to have' so that c&p works
[22:40] <cjwatson> I just missed that bit when adding support for that prefix to the API and such


[09:52] <farrukh> ?
[09:52] <farrukh> anyone live?
[10:01] <darkmatter> no, we're all dead and residing in the GNUlysian Fields :P
[12:35] <wers> where can I find the default ubuntu wallpapers?
[12:35] <wers> i mean, arent they supposed to be under /usr/share/wallpapers or something?
[12:41] <zniavre_> usr/share/background no?
[12:41] <zniavre_> backgrounds *
[18:49] <kwwii> mac_v: all of the art related sessions are planned for Thursday
[18:49] <mac_v> kwwii: cool  , thanks :)
[18:51] <kwwii> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/2009-11-19/


 Hello, I want to chat
[03:38] <dnivra> Hello! How can I save the current running apps, widgets etc across sessions so that when I login next time, all running apps and widgets are restored. I tried enabling "Restore previous saved session" and as well as manually save a session after enabling "Restore manually saved session". However, neither seems to work: none of the running apps are
[03:39] <dnivra> saved and all widgets are moved to the top let corner stacked on top of each other. I running Kubuntu 22.04.1(fresh install) with all updates installed.
[03:42] <dnivra> I forgot to add this: I am using an external display.
 Can i have plasma 5.26 in kubuntu 22.04 via ppa?
 Not at the moment. It would break subsequent upgrades to 22.10 (re @Omar: Can i have plasma 5.26 in kubuntu 22.04 via ppa?)
 Ok thank you (re @RikMills: Not at the moment. It would break subsequent upgrades to 22.10)
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/912b621d/file_61279.jpg
[10:18] <mparillo> Nice. You should join https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/
 👍👍👍
 Damn! Sexy. (re @edwardo_ge: )
 guys need a help i am not able to transfer files from android to ubuntu it shows failed in my android what to do
 guys need a quick help i am not able to transfer files from android to ubuntu it shows failed in my android what to do
 i cannot send files from my android to ubuntu it says unsuccessful what can be the problem and possible solution
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 What would that sort of broken update look like? I think that may be my problem. (re @RikMills: Not at the moment. It would break subsequent upgrades to 22.10)
 (Not with updating plasma, but I updated other packages to 22.10 levels or beyond)
 For example: Certain plasma packages would hard depend on the Qt version they were compiled with. i.e. 5.15.3 in Jammy. But Kinetic only has 5.15.6, so that dependency could not be satisfied in the upgrade. You would get either a broken upgrade where essential plasma packages were removed and not be installable any more, or the upgrader would just refuse to even start the upgrade (re @paculino: What would that sort of broken update look like
 Time to downgrade stuff and see if that helps. Thank you
[21:33] <mario__> jui


[10:48] <st_iron> good evening
[10:48] <jea> hi
[10:52] <st_iron> what is up?
[10:52] <jea> not too much really
[10:52] <jea> processing photos, etc
[10:52] <jea> you?
[10:53] <st_iron> I am installing a new Chef environment on my test 12.04s :)
[10:53] <st_iron> here is daytime
[10:53] <jea> ah
[10:55] <st_iron> but I wish I was in Sydney now... I hate this cold weather
[10:56] <jea> where are you now then?
[10:56] <st_iron> in the middle of Europe, in Hungary
[10:56] <st_iron> circa 16,000km from Sydney
[10:56] <jea> well that is a fair distance away
[10:56] <st_iron> yes, a bit :)
[10:57] <st_iron> but my heart is there
[10:57] <jea> is it just a holiday?
[10:58] <st_iron> no, I am from Hungary
[10:58] <jea> right
[10:58] <st_iron> I was in Australia in February
[10:59] <st_iron> it was a bit cold, but it was a good working holiday finally
[11:00] <jea> It shouldn't be cold in Australia in February
[11:02] <st_iron> it was about 10 degrees in Sydney
[11:02] <jea> that is not normal
[11:09] <st_iron> after a week it was 25-30 btw
[11:10] <st_iron> but I could not swim on the Bondi :(
[11:11] <jea> Bondi gets a bit busy
[11:11] <jea> I haven't actually been there though
[11:12] <st_iron> are you in Sydney
[11:12] <st_iron> ?
[11:12] <st_iron> I met with some Ubuntu guys there, but AFAIK they are not team members here
[11:13] <st_iron> I did not know that Ubuntu is such famous there
[11:14] <jea> No, I am in Brisbane
[11:16] <st_iron> all year hot, right?
[11:17] <jea> Somewhat
[11:17] <jea> but you get used to it
[11:17] <jea> winter can be colder
[11:19] <st_iron> here is -8 degrees now... and it is not the winter just autumn :)
[11:20] <st_iron> I went to Sydney from London, it was -3 degrees in London and about 20 degrees in Sydney when I landed
[11:20] <st_iron> I was funny in my jumpers and coat
[11:20] <st_iron> sed 's/in/with'
[11:20] <st_iron> sed 's/in/with/'
[11:21] <st_iron> in Singapore we had a stop, there was 37 degrees that night
[11:21] <jea> Yeah, that would be a very big temperature difference
[11:21] <st_iron> I felt it for 2-3 days
[11:21] <st_iron> it was a kind of shock to my body
[11:22] <st_iron> I loved to be in Sydney, but I spent a bit too much :D
[11:23] <st_iron> my $22 coffee was brutal for example
[11:23] <jea> wow
[11:23] <jea> now that is just too much
[11:23] <st_iron> that was
[11:23] <st_iron> I drank it near to Pyrama
[11:23] <st_iron> or Pyrrama?
[11:24] <jea> um, not sure
[20:39] <st_iron> Hi