[12:13] <Dr_willis> heh heh,
[12:13] <LeeJunFan> anyone tried sun's looking glass yet? I can't imagine a java app being good for a desktop, nor it being even comparable to beryl.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> ya hear interfearance?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  i think i saw a demo ages ago.. but that was the last ive seen it.
[12:13] <Ace2016> yea
[12:15] <Dr_willis> amazing thing with 'Sun' they have all these cool demos and things.. that just seem to vanish.
[12:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:15] <Ace2016> well it works, and i know before i get a text, its much better than the light up keyboard, you can hear it
[12:16] <Dr_willis> check that cat feeder demo.. the guy is using a Ubuntu box.. and sshing into it.. then used the 'eject' command to make the cdrom drive trip a lever. :)
[12:17] <lotusleaf> but can it make cats?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.xml
[12:17] <Dr_willis> It makes cats appear.... :) they come running.
[12:17] <Ace2016> add second cat of the opposite sex which is released via an ssh command :D
[12:17] <mewantBeryl> where does konquerer and firefox store their bookmarks? is there a bookmark folder somewhere, i'm trying to copy the bookmarks onto a different comp and there's a whole bunch of bookmarks
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: locate bookmarks.html
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Ive seen all these 3d-desktop type things now for a while.. and well.. I just dont see how it makes my desktop-ussage better.... I must be old-skool.
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: just import the file
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: export/import are your friends
[12:18] <mewantBeryl> mewantBeryl do u mean type at konsole: locate bookmarks.html? sorry kinda new at this
[12:18] <Ace2016> konqueror has it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> oops i meant to type lotusleaf: do you mean type at konsole: locate bookmarks.html? sorry kinda new at this
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> Ace2016 cool thx i'll check that out too
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: sure, at the command line
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: but no need to search around, just export your bookmarks as .html and import them as .html
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> ltousleaf is that for both firefox and konquerer?
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: that way you don't have to worry about paths
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf ok cool
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: most browsers have the ability to import/export and yes both of those browsers included
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf thx
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf cool thx =)
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:21] <malik__> any solution to change ntfs data drive to ext3 without formatting and damaging the data?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> good luck. :)
[12:22] <Ace2016> malik__: didn't you ask about this yesterday? weren't you going to use some app to convert it from within windows?
[12:22] <Sanne> malik__: I'm highly doubtful that can be done
[12:23] <malik__> yes i was but couldnt be bothered to restart my comp into windows:) heheheheh
[12:23] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf how do i import/export =)
[12:23] <Ace2016> lol
[12:24] <lotusleaf> konqueror -> Bookmarks -> Edit -> File -> Import or Export
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: similar for Firefox, just look at the bookmarks options
[12:24] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf o duh thx =)
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: the help sections are also cool =)
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:24] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf hehe i feel so retarded asking that question lol
[12:25] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: this channel is for questions
[12:25] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf cool =)
[12:25] <lotusleaf> (=
[12:25] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  heh heh..  i  was thinking somthing  similer to that.. but a bit more rude. :)
[12:28] <liviux> hi all and Merry christmas!
[12:30] <brianw> Merry X-mas to you as well :)
[12:30] <brianw> ok, so how do I go about getting nvidia 9.x drivers?
[12:31] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[12:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <RealisticDragon> on christmas? ;)
[12:31] <lotusleaf> brianw: I install the newest drivers from the nvidia site using a guide I found linked from ubuntu forums
[12:31] <RealisticDragon> oops, says the guy on IRC :P
[12:32] <brianw> I would rather keep it done through the package manager
[12:32] <lotusleaf> brianw: you can do that, too =)
[12:32] <RealisticDragon> those instructions use the package manager i think
  good mewantBeryl
 in your home folder
  good mewantBeryl
 in your home folder
[12:37] <cntb>  /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/ntrtm5u6.default mewantBeryl
[12:38] <cntb> was mewantBeryl some bot?
[12:38] <cntb> lupine_85, ?
[12:43] <fdoving> !sound | bork
[12:43] <ubotu> bork: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:43] <vladi> which file do i need to edit to make a drive mount every time? i forgot
[12:44] <fdoving> vladi: /etc/fstab
[12:44] <fdoving> !fstab
[12:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:44] <vladi> yup thats the one cheers
[12:50] <vladi> does anyone here use the beta nvidia drivers, and if so do you use build 9631 or 9742?
[12:51] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu, and then the kubuntu package to get KDE, however KDE now seems to be a weird hybrid.  When ever I click on something on my KDE bar, it disappears for a split second. Also when I switch desktops the icons on the KDE bar flicker.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> did you install kubuntu desktop?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> or just the KDE package?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> (if you arent sure try installing kubuntu-desktop with adept and see if it makes any changes)
[12:53] <crazy_bus> kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <RealisticDragon> hm, should work then :/
[12:54] <RealisticDragon> im afraid i dont know crazy_bus, sorry
[12:54] <Burkan> or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in your terminal
[12:55] <Burkan> or "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in your terminal
[12:56] <RealisticDragon> the other thing thats worth a try is restarting the X server
[12:56] <Burkan> I think this page can help you http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_KDE
[12:59] <crazy_bus> I'm sorry about that.  Does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[01:02] <bork> root@borkie:/proc/asound# cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:02] <bork> --- no soundcards ---
[01:07] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu, and then installed the package kubuntu-desktop to get KDE.  However now my KDE is different from when I did a straight kubuntu install.  Some of the things look half GNOME.  Also when you click on things in the KDE bar, they flicker.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to All who celebrate it ! :)
[01:10] <joshual> just installed vmware server its asking to connect to a host... not sure how to proceed... help?
[01:13] <RealisticDragon> you need a vmware image i think... maybe their website or support can help :)
[01:14] <joshual> first you need to connect then you need an image
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !vmware
[01:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:19] <Dr_willis> localhost is the 'current' machine is what ya want
[01:19] <Dr_willis> if you got vmware server on several machines they can view the servers/sessions running on other machines also.
[01:20] <joshual> Dr_willis: it's on one machine... but I don't know how to get it to connect with localhost
[01:20] <Dr_willis> thats the default...
[01:20] <RealisticDragon> localhost ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <Dr_willis> just hit next, or whatever..
[01:20] <joshual> ok ill try
[01:20] <Dr_willis> you are making it too complex.. :)
[01:21] <joshual> what about username and password?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> just click 'connect'
[01:21] <joshual> Unable to connect to the remote host: Cannot connect to host <IP_ADDRESS>: Connection refused.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> localhost  is the default.. then 'connect' is all i have to do
[01:21] <Dr_willis> if your vmware server is running I guess...
[01:21] <joshual> i dont know if i entered the registration ingo
[01:22] <joshual> info
[01:22] <Dr_willis> You never entered the serial # for vmware server that ya got from their web site?
[01:22] <joshual> no it hasnt asked
[01:23] <jim__> Simple question... how can i associate *.url file types with my web browsers (konquer/firefox)? i have alot of *.url hyperlink files. i set firefox as the default prgrom to open the file type, but it just opens the file instead of hyperlinking to the website.
[01:25] <Dr_willis> I would guess you some how missed a large part of the isntall then.
[01:28] <joshual> Dr_willis: i have the license... i installed running:  sudo  ./vmware-install.pl
[01:28] <Dr_willis> It should of compiled some stuff and asked a dozen+ questions - then asked for that serial #
[01:29] <joshual> yah I've isntalled on other distributions, and it did then, but this time it didnt run the config, so I tried to run it manually, and it said it was complete
[01:37] <joshual> Dr_willis: maybe i downloaded the wrong package
[01:38] <Dr_willis> ive always just downloaded, untared, cded to the dir. and ran that script.
[01:38] <joshual> there are more then one to download though
[01:38] <Dr_willis> theres other packages needed to beinstalled beforhand also so it can compile the modules
[01:45] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know how to set up a wireless network between kubuntu and Windows XP to share files?
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> have a look at samba crazy_bus
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> !samba
[01:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> for wireless networks there is stuff here
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> !wireless
[01:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:50] <MasterLexx> hey
[01:50] <MasterLexx> can one run kubuntu with 256 mb ram, or should i stick with xubuntu?
[01:50] <crazy_bus> thank you.  I just thought about something.  I'm running the wirless router, but I don't personally have a wireless card connected to my computer.  Can I still network?
[01:51] <RealisticDragon> your wireless router has some wired ports on it... is that how you are connecting to the internet crazy_bus?
[01:52] <RealisticDragon> MasterLexx: not tried it with less than 512, you can test it with the livecd? or install kubuntu-desktop in xubuntu and if it doesnt work change back to xfce :)
[01:52] <MasterLexx> i just wonder what's better for my 800- MHz laptop with 256 mb ram
[01:53] <MasterLexx> so i thought xfce is faster and uses less memory?
[01:53] <MasterLexx> what special advantages does kde have?
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> yup
[01:53] <crazy_bus> My computer is connected with a wire to the router.  The router is then connected to a adsl modem with a wire.
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> hmm its a bit more featureful MasterLexx
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> crazy_bus: and the router also talks to the wireless clients?
[01:53] <MasterLexx> i heard of an kde x remote terminal ors omething?
[01:54] <RealisticDragon> then your linux machine can talk to the wireless network
[01:54] <LBB> Happy hollydays all!!
[01:54] <RealisticDragon> MasterLexx: you can log in remotley with xfce as well :) and you can run kde apps in xfce if you wish
[01:55] <soulrider> MasterLexx: you can use the live CD with 128 mb of RAM
[01:55] <soulrider> even if its Kubuntu
[01:55] <MasterLexx> hmm i wonder what's better
[01:55] <soulrider> MasterLexx: xfce will be lighter
[01:55] <crazy_bus> Laptops, with wireless cards can connect to the internet via the router.  Is that what you mean RealisticDragon?
[01:55] <soulrider> is this the first time using linux ?
[01:56] <lotusleaf> soulrider: openbox is lighter still
[01:56] <RealisticDragon> yes crazy_bus, everything that connects to the internet via the router should be able to talk fine :)
[01:56] <soulrider> never tried it lotusleaf
[01:56] <MasterLexx> this Desktop Sharing Framework is the same as VNC?
[01:56] <lotusleaf> soulrider: openbox blackbox fluxbox we all love *box
[01:56] <crazy_bus> Thank you
[01:56] <soulrider> ah
[01:56] <soulrider> last night i tried enlightment
[01:56] <RealisticDragon> np
[01:56] <soulrider> but i didnt like it
[01:57] <MasterLexx> i tried all 3 ubuntus in vmware.... they are the same.... practically
[01:57] <soulrider> yeah
[01:57] <soulrider> MasterLexx: if youre starting with linux m,aybe its better if you use KDE and then switch to XFCE
[01:57] <soulrider> i think that it iwll probably be friendlier
[01:57] <MasterLexx> maybe
[01:58] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu.  And then installed kubuntu-desktop to get KDE.  However KDE now seem different from when it was when I did a straight kubuntu install.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[01:58] <lotusleaf> soulrider: or use KDE and stay with KDE :)
[01:58] <soulrider> yeah
[01:58] <lotusleaf> soulrider: #xubuntu exists ;)
[01:58] <soulrider> but he has a slower comp, i dont know if it runs wells on slower comps
[01:58] <soulrider> i know i know
[01:59] <soulrider> but KDE is friendlier than XFCE
[01:59] <soulrider> so maybe it eases the switch
[01:59] <lotusleaf> soulrider: slow computers work well with things like xfce, openbox, fluxbox, blackbox, icewm, etc.
[01:59] <crazy_bus> Icons on the KDE bar, flicker.  Things look half gnome.  It annoys me.
[01:59] <lotusleaf> soulrider: I install several window managers for people then let them choose if they're new ;)
[02:00] <soulrider> yeah, thats an option too
[02:00] <lotusleaf> *and have slow computers, that is, otherwise I have them stick with one desktop environment until they know how to dance with happy feet and strong toes
[02:01] <LBB> I made my system unbootable :(     I uninstalled apache wich broke mysql. Now my system hangs at "Starting MySQL database server: mysqld"
[02:01] <joshual> I screwed up apt/aptitude by closing adept while it was trying to install something... now I can't use apt at all... how can I repair this issue?
[02:02] <LBB> joshual can you use apt from the commandline?
[02:02] <Robby> hi
[02:02] <joshual> LBB I can, and do... but it's broken... I need to fix it
[02:03] <crazy_bus> Would it be better to set up a network, on windows and connect to in via kubuntu.  Or the other way round?
[02:03] <Robby> What is the best package when I want to see  Macromedia Flash in Firefox?  There are many... and I am not sure what version of Flash I get.... here is the URL::               http://pastebin.com/844913
[02:03] <LBB> joshoal: I was gonna sugest a reinstall of adept trough apt....
[02:03] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: either way should work
[02:03] <lotusleaf> Robby: adobe's site and get flash 9 beta 2
[02:04] <dwidmann> http://labs.adobe.com
[02:04] <Robby> ok
[02:04] <Robby> what are the packages in the backports for
[02:04] <Robby> ?
[02:04] <joshual> theyre bleeding edge
[02:05] <dwidmann> Robby: they're newer than the ones in the main repositories
[02:05] <LBB> anyone know if it is possible to change the startup-script of a kubuntu when it is not bootable
[02:05] <LBB> (via a live-cd)
[02:06] <dwidmann> LBB: perfectly possible, it's just a matter of which startup script, there are dozens
[02:06] <MasterLexx> is 800 MHz slow?
[02:07] <dwidmann> MasterLexx: by todays standards, most definitely
[02:07] <LBB> dwidmann: i need to remove the line that points to mysql, so i can boot my system to the commandline and reinstall my broken packages
[02:07] <MasterLexx> wahhh, windows is better there....... one desktop for all
[02:08] <lotusleaf> !windows
[02:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:08] <soulrider> LOL
[02:08] <dwidmann> LBB: I would chroot into the partition, what you'll need to do is something like "update-rc.d remove mysql"
[02:09] <isede> how do i set the ENV for gems i install through rubygems to be available for the interpreter?
[02:10] <LBB> dwidmann how do i do that?
[02:11] <dwidmann> LBB: to chroot into a partition, first make a directory (while running from the livecd), "sudo mkdir /target", then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target" (or whatever partition your linux installation is on), then "chroot /target", it will then show you as root@ubuntu#. From there you can do the "update-rc.d mysql remove"
[02:12] <LBB> dwidmann: thanks I'll go and try that!
[02:15] <benni> I've got a question. Would the performance under desktop slow down if i did not installed the display driver?
[02:15] <dwidmann> depends
[02:15] <LBB> benni: depends on wich desktop you're using
[02:15] <benni> kde 3.5
[02:16] <dwidmann> It depends on what card you have, and what display driver you're using
[02:16] <benni> i'm using the firexgl driver and my card is a radeon 9600xt
[02:16] <dwidmann> If you've got an nvidia card, at least in my experience, things lag with the nv and vesa drivers ..
[02:17] <dwidmann> hmmm, I hear some of the ati cards do pretty well with the open source drivers
[02:17] <benni> hm... okay thank you.
[02:17] <dwidmann> I forget how well radeons fare, I suppose you're okay if you don't want to do _anything_ 3d
[02:17] <VR_> everyone, im in distress.
[02:18] <VR_> is it just me, or did the wiki get chaned around
[02:18] <dwidmann> VR_: that's common in support rooms
[02:18] <dwidmann> Hmm, the wiki changed around? Which page(s)?
[02:18] <VR_> bwhahah
[02:18] <VR_> the, what's it called...
[02:18] <VR_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <malik__> which one is best p2p client............frostwire/amule/xmule/mldonkey?
[02:19] <VR_> malik__, p2p is kind of... old, Sir.
[02:20] <VR_> dwidmann, my problem is this: the codecs that are kubuntu-specific, arent listed on the wiki anymore like they used to be
[02:21] <VR_> and that's sort of ruining the holidays for me, yes?
[02:21] <dwidmann> Which ones do you need?
[02:21] <PR006> hi all
[02:21] <VR_> all of them
[02:21] <daniel7> ola
[02:21] <dwidmann> hi PR006
[02:21] <daniel7> hi
[02:21] <daniel7> to everyone
[02:21] <dwidmann> VR_: you probably want libxine-extracodecs
[02:21] <VR_> i had a bash script that installs everything for me, but i lost that, and am trying to make a new one, but i forgot the names of the packages.
[02:21] <VR_> yeah, i know that one... but there's a bunch of other stuff too
[02:22] <daniel7> who here can help me a little with automatix?
[02:22] <VR_> w32codecs is also easy to get...
[02:22] <daniel7> i just installed ubuntu... my first linux :D
[02:22] <apokryphos> !automatix
[02:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:22] <joshual> yo
[02:22] <apokryphos> daniel7: nothing beats the easy documentation and FAQ :)
[02:22] <daniel7> ubotu es un boot?
[02:22] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[02:23] <apokryphos> daniel7: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:23] <apokryphos> !bot
[02:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:23] <daniel7> jejejej ty
[02:23] <daniel7> ok so NO automatix ;) but how I install programs?
[02:23] <daniel7> userful ones
[02:23] <malik__> VR_: that may be the case but there is alotta stuff like single file mp3z which cant be fount on torrents ................thats why i wanna know which one is good client in linux
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i change channels again in irssi
[02:24] <VR_> malik__, i can tell you i hated amule to death.
[02:24] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, alt+left/right
[02:24] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, OR alt+#
[02:24] <malik__> what abt xmule or emule?
[02:24] <VR_> malik__, never used those, son
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> VR_: maybe i'm going something wring
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> neither of those work
[02:25] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, you're not... which terminal are you using?
[02:25] <VR_> gnome-terminal? konsole?
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> gnome-terminal
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i forgot I'm on GNOME
[02:25] <VR_> yeah, thats the problem
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> lol I know it's a problem
[02:25] <VR_> you can switch by using /win 1 to go to window # 1
[02:26] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, i recommend rxvt-unicode for irssi
[02:26] <malik__> wokie then what abt frostwire(limewire clone) or ml donkey (edonkey clone)
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i really don't know what that means...
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i just started using this like today
[02:27] <CSonicGo>  I swear I thought I'd never use ALL my USB slots.  but I successfully have. I need to use my hub, I guess... I bought two for my old IBM to have 8 slots. :D
[02:27] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, rxvt-unicode is another terminal emulator
[02:27] <malik__> plus can some one tell me how to change ntfs data drive into ext3 without formatting and dsamaging data on it?
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see.
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> well the thing is, I have gnome running on a 3 Gb partition
[02:27] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, it's a bit better than gnome-terminal, more light-weight and displays those screwy characters a lot better
[02:27] <PR006> bye all
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> so I really can't install anything
[02:27] <CSonicGo> malik__: NTFS support is still up in the air.
[02:28] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, yes you can. you can start Synaptic and install software from there.
[02:28] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, type "gksudo synaptic" in a terminal, enter the password and choose what you wanna install
[02:28] <VR_> without the quotes, of course
[02:28] <malik__> i think in windows with partitionb magic we can do that............any i dea?
[02:29] <malik__> i just wanna change my ntfs to ext3 data drive
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> I know how to do all that VR_, I'm fairly competant with Ubuntu, just not IRSSI
[02:29] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, once you get used to irssi, you'll hate everything else
[02:29] <daniel7> look, someone can help me a little
[02:29] <daniel7> plz
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> I usually use Konversation
[02:30] <daniel7> it's short, i need to instal TIGHT VNC and i don't know what version
[02:30] <daniel7> http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html
[02:30] <daniel7> :S
[02:30] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, konversation is bad, Sir
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> I've used that, Xchat a bit. I like Konversation the best
[02:31] <VR_> irssi owns all, though
[02:31] <CSonicGo> konversation isn't THAT bad.
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> bitchx in a pintch as well
[02:31] <CSonicGo> then again I used Xircon for years.
[02:31] <VR_> konversation is bad? mkay?
[02:32] <CSonicGo> well it's GUI :X
[02:32] <daniel7> please someone send me a private mensage telling how to install a program in ubuntu...
[02:32] <VR_> yeah, who uses a gui for irc, come on
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I do
[02:32] <CSonicGo> :D
[02:32] <VR_> CSonicGo, im on mirc right now heheh
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I'm not 1337  :(
[02:32] <malik__> daniel7: what are u trying o do?
[02:32] <VR_> and it SUCKS!!
[02:32] <CSonicGo> rofl
[02:32] <VR_> i havent used windows in ages man
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I just got off of windows
[02:32] <VR_> but i broke my install and said... i could install windows again
[02:33] <daniel7> malik__ install tight vnc...
[02:33] <Black5un> tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:34] <malik__> daniel7: what kinda comp u r using?
[02:34] <enyawix> SATA2 drive who makes a good one?
[02:34] <malik__> amd or pentium or mac?
[02:34] <Black5un> p4 3.2
[02:34] <daniel7> i don't see a .deb :S
[02:35] <daniel7> balck5un, i only read  .rpm
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !alien | daniel7
[02:35] <ubotu> daniel7: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:35] <Black5un> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tightvnc/tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:35] <Black5un> wget it
[02:36] <daniel7> ty admiral and black5un
[02:36] <daniel7> now i have downloaded the file...
[02:36] <daniel7> i run it?
[02:36] <daniel7> or use somecode in terminal S:
[02:36] <Black5un> sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:37] <VR_> no need for --install
[02:37] <VR_> just -i
[02:37] <VR_> it's much sexier
[02:37] <Black5un> --install works
[02:37] <VR_> i refuse to use that!
[02:38] <Black5un> i'm married have all the time in the world to type
[02:38] <Black5un> :P
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> daniel7: sudo apt-get install alien && cd <location of dl> & sudo alien foo.rpm
[02:38] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:38] <daniel7> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:38] <VR_> tell him to install alien too, if he doesnt have it
[02:38] <VR_> unless you already did, i didnt pay attention
[02:39] <daniel7> where to download alien :S
[02:39] <VR_> daniel7, you need to close synaptic or whatever youre using
[02:39] <malik__> i just wanna change my ntfs to ext3 data drive.........any idea how can i do that without destroyin my data?
[02:40] <unix_infidel> malik__: there is no simple way to convert.
[02:41] <VR_> daniel7, installing alien is easy. sudo apt-get install alien
[02:41] <unix_infidel> you can backup, format to ext3 or whichever FS you like. and then cp back.
[02:41] <daniel7> thanks vr_
[02:41] <VR_> daniel7, just make sure you close kynaptic first
[02:41] <daniel7> how can i force a windows to closE? like in windows the ctrl +alt+supr
[02:42] <VR_> daniel7, is it a certain program you're trying to close?
[02:42] <daniel7> it's automatix :S
[02:42] <daniel7> :(
[02:43] <VR_> try killall automatix2
[02:43] <VR_> i freakin' hate automatix man
[02:44] <CSonicGo> heh
[02:44] <CSonicGo> omg new wine *upgrades*
[02:44] <VR_> OMGz~
[02:44] <VR_> wine is for traitors, kind of
[02:44] <CSonicGo> :P
[02:44] <VR_> haha
[02:45] <CSonicGo> it's for games that aren't for linux yet (at least for me)
[02:45] <CSonicGo> and I use dosbox for my old old games
[02:46] <VR_> just buy a console, chum
[02:47] <eilker> my debian sees windows clients directly-automatically , but my kubuntu doesnt...why ?
[02:47] <eilker> i need to carry a big file from windows to kubuntu...
[02:53] <daniel7> Black5un are you here?
[02:53] <daniel7> i have a problem with the command sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:54] <VR_> daniel7, whats wrong?
[02:54] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$  sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:54] <daniel7> (Reading database ... 78692 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:54] <daniel7> Preparing to replace tightvncserver 1.2.9-21 (using tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb) ...
[02:54] <daniel7> Unpacking replacement tightvncserver ...
[02:54] <daniel7> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tightvncserver:
[02:54] <daniel7> tightvncserver depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:
[02:54] <daniel7>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[02:54] <nev> hiya.. today is my 1st time using ubuntu!! lol.. but is there anyway to control cpu fanspeed??
[02:54] <daniel7> dpkg: error processing tightvncserver (--install):
[02:54] <daniel7>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:55] <daniel7> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:55] <daniel7>  tightvncserver
[02:55] <VR_> daniel7, it looks like you're missing some dependencies.
[02:55] <daniel7> what's that?
[02:55] <VR_> daniel7, hold on a sec.
[02:55] <daniel7> ok
[02:56] <VR_> daniel7, im not sure but, you could try and do the following:
[02:56] <VR_> sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:57] <daniel7> :S
[02:57] <VR_> no go?
[02:57] <daniel7> Might the file is wrong
[02:57] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:57] <daniel7> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:57] <daniel7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:58] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:58] <daniel7> Reading package lists... Done
[02:58] <daniel7> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:58] <daniel7> E: Unable to find a source package for tightvnc
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, i guess that won't work.
[02:58] <daniel7> I guess that's sucks =(
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, you'll have to install all the dependencies by hand...
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, try and do apt-cache search libc6
[02:59] <daniel7> i wrote
[03:00] <daniel7> there are a lot of lines of kinds of explications of the libs
[03:00] <VR_> ok
[03:00] <daniel7> like apt-cache search libc6
[03:01] <VR_> what im trying to show you is that you'll have to search for your dependencies that way and apt-get install them one by one. BUT, thats not really something i would recommend to you.
[03:01] <VR_> it can be very tedious
[03:01] <daniel7> i think so
[03:01] <Theory> well, there is that package called autoapt or something
[03:01] <Theory> which you run make through and goes and gets all the packages it needs
[03:02] <VR_> Theory, how do you use that?
[03:02] <Theory> it's called auto-apt
[03:02] <Theory> not used it for a while, so I suggest you google / read docs
[03:02] <daniel7> :S
[03:03] <VR_> i think that vncserver is in the repos, but you might have to enable multiverse or something...
[03:05] <vladi> anyone know how to get kubuntu to auto-mount my ipod?
[03:05] <vladi> would i have to add an entry into fstab?
[03:06] <daniel7> vr_ i opened synaptic program
[03:06] <daniel7> and i found tight VNC server (what i'm looking for)
[03:06] <daniel7> but
[03:07] <CSonicGo> hey how do I open RAR files?
[03:07] <CSonicGo> :(
[03:07] <VR_> CSonicGo, sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:07] <JohnFlux> CSonicGo: unrar x file.rar
[03:07] <daniel7> I installed tightvncserver pack and the xtightvncviewer pack....
[03:07] <JohnFlux> after you do what VR_ said
[03:07] <daniel7> and there are no problems in the instalation
[03:07] <VR_> daniel7, ok, good.
[03:07] <daniel7> where can i run the program?
[03:07] <daniel7> =( =S
[03:08] <VR_> daniel7, im not sure what kind of program it is, but i would say from the command line probably works. just type tightvncserver
[03:08] <Black5un> then password
[03:09] <daniel7> black5un, you use tight vnc ?
[03:10] <ubuntu> i love windows
[03:10] <ubuntu> just kidding ^^
[03:10] <CSonicGo> XD
[03:10] <Black5un> yes
[03:10] <daniel7> jejej
[03:10] <Black5un> their is some good threads on it in forums
[03:10] <ubuntu> i'm trying the live cd of kubuntu at the moment... i'm actually considering to install it :)
[03:11] <daniel7> i used it on windows and it runs very well... i have a old mashine with win98SE working 24h/7d downloading porn XD!
[03:11] <daniel7> really downloating movies
[03:11] <daniel7> from a friend's server
[03:11] <ubuntu> i'm juste wandering a thing... can i use windows datafiles like music, divx, porns on kubuntu guys ?
[03:11] <daniel7> and i want to conect to this computer
[03:12] <Black5un> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107503&highlight=tightvnc
[03:12] <N3m0> k thanks for the answer :p arn't u supose to be "ubuntu experts" ?
[03:12] <dwidmann> N3m0: depends
[03:12] <dwidmann> expert is a relative term
[03:13] <N3m0> yeah whatever, i guess my question isn't that hard ^
[03:13] <N3m0> ^^
[03:14] <dwidmann> It's harder than you think, you say music, I say which format, divx can be played fine, you say porns, what exactly do you mean by that anyway?
[03:14] <N3m0> nvm about porns ^^ it's format fat32 i think where all music and movies are in
[03:14] <N3m0> softwares and games too btw
[03:16] <dwidmann> software and games depends, linux (well, POSIX compatible) programs will run fine, else, you can try WINE and cross your fingers, some things will work in it, and some things won't
[03:16] <dwidmann> N3m0: you can mount your fat32 partition if you want
[03:17] <N3m0> mount ? that means it can be "translated" into a format Kubuntu understands ?
[03:18] <CSonicGo> !dvd
[03:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:18] <dwidmann> !fat | N3m0
[03:18] <ubotu> N3m0: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:18] <dwidmann> !fuse
[03:18] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:19] <dwidmann> !mount | N3m0
[03:19] <ubotu> N3m0: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:20] <N3m0> ok, ty very much for your answers :p
[03:20] <N3m0> you rock guys
[03:20] <dwidmann> :)
[03:22] <Robinator> I just wanted to installed "apache2"  and there is a package which has to be REMOVED ... this fact makes me worry.  Please look at this:  http://pastebin.com/844952
[03:23] <Robinator> thank you dwidmann
[03:23] <flaccid> Robinator: that is correct
[03:23] <dwidmann> !info  apache2-mpm-worker
[03:24] <ubotu> apache2-mpm-worker: high speed threaded model for Apache2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 204 kB, installed size 492 kB
[03:24] <flaccid> you want prefork and not work afaik
[03:24] <flaccid> the mpm has issues with php5 iirc
[03:24] <Robinator> ok
[03:24] <Robinator> erm
[03:24] <flaccid> probably why they did that with the package deps
[03:24] <Robinator> flaccid, so what may I do?
[03:24] <Robinator> I installed  MySQL 5.0
[03:24] <Robinator> Apache2
[03:24] <shredder81> what do I do with a tar.gz file
[03:24] <flaccid> let it install?
[03:24] <Robinator> and now php5
[03:25] <Robinator> but you just saud that there are issues?
[03:25] <flaccid> shredder81: unarchive with a program like ark
[03:25] <Robinator> should I install php4 ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[03:25] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[03:25] <flaccid> no Robinator issues with apache mpm. which is why it is suggesting prefork
[03:25] <Robinator> oh
[03:25] <Robinator> sorry
[03:25] <Robinator> thank you
[03:25] <flaccid> Robinator: let that command go through :)
[03:25] <dwidmann> That depends what you need, php4 works, but php5 is newer and has some new features
[03:25] <flaccid> sweet
[03:25] <daniel7> :S
[03:25] <daniel7> how can i instal in ubuntu a .rpm file?
[03:25] <daniel7> i have donwloaded alien :D
[03:26] <flaccid> always use php5 unless you have a php4 dependent script(s)
[03:26] <shredder81> then what?
[03:26] <flaccid> daniel7: man alien
[03:26] <dwidmann> daniel7: I think it involves running something like alien file.rpm, then you just install the newly created file.deb with dpkg --install ...
[03:27] <flaccid> yeah alien has worked well for me
[03:27] <Dr_willis> and hope it dont break things. :)
[03:28] <flaccid> it won't break anything
[03:28] <flaccid> unless it overrides existing files from another program/package
[03:28] <Robinator> erm...  question:  I decided using "aptitude" instead of "apt-get" ... now I just notice a little tool next to the clock in KDE named "Adept Notifier" ... can aptitude do the same updates for me or do I need this GUI ?
[03:28] <flaccid> its more a matter of if the distributed files are adequate for the distor
[03:29] <flaccid> Robinator: adept is another package manager. you don't need the gui
[03:29] <flaccid> !adept
[03:29] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:29] <shredder81> I got this file firefox-2.0.tar.gz how do I install it
[03:29] <flaccid> ^^^ its kubuntu's manager thats why its there
[03:29] <Robinator> flaccid, so I can use aptitude and tell adept not to start again
[03:29] <flaccid> shredder81: read the install structions from mozilla
[03:29] <flaccid> Robinator: correct. package manager is independent
[03:30] <CSonicGo> !dvd
[03:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:32] <rexbron> !lucks
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <rexbron> !luks
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <rexbron> ok
[03:33] <malik__> yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaa............im dancing man
[03:33] <malik__> :)
[03:33] <malik__> kmldonkey working perfectly
[03:34] <daniel7> i still can't use the tight vnc
[03:34] <rexbron> does anyone know how to get a luks encrypted partition to mount when you plug it in (by asking for a passphrase first)
[03:34] <flaccid> daniel7: why?
[03:35] <malik__> daniel7: if you are using kubuntu edgy why not use remote desktop utility in the internet menu?
[03:36] <daniel7> i'm using ubuntu
[03:36] <daniel7> normal one
[03:36] <daniel7> 6.06
[03:36] <daniel7> i use alien to convert a .rpm to a .deb
[03:36] <daniel7> now, how I install the .deb?
[03:38] <flaccid> daniel7: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb.deb
[03:38] <flaccid> brb
[03:39] <daniel7> yeha
[03:39] <daniel7> I rocks
[03:39] <daniel7> i runned the $%"%$"& tight vnc viewer
[03:40] <daniel7> but only with code
[03:40] <daniel7> how can i make a kind of icon wich one run the code for me?
[03:41] <Dr_willis> make a batchfile. make an icon that launches it.
[03:41] <daniel7> ok, but how xD
[03:41] <snowrichard> shell script -- batch file same idea
[03:41] <Dr_willis> now is the time to spend some time learning some Linux/shell fundamentals I think
[03:42] <daniel7> yes
[03:42] <flaccid> thats good to hear
[03:42] <Dr_willis> !bash
[03:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:42] <daniel7> jejeje
[03:42] <snowrichard> the late arthur Dent
[03:42] <Dr_willis> tldp.org is also a good place to start
[03:42] <daniel7> i must to go
[03:42] <daniel7> cyaa!
[03:42] <daniel7> thanks
[03:42] <daniel7> goodbye
[03:42] <daniel7> goodnight
[03:42] <daniel7> jejejej
[03:42] <dwidmann> pretty much everything on tldp is ancient, iirc
[03:43] <jerp> newb alert, newb alert: Someone has a new monitor and for it to work properly, they should install wine and then install the drivers from the cd with it
[03:44] <Dr_willis> That makes totally no sence..
[03:44] <jerp> am I close?  does it work that way?  or is wine just for programs?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> all a monitors 'drivers' do - from what ive seen - is tell what freq/rates it can handle
[03:44] <dwidmann> jerp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might do well for you, if your resolution is off
[03:44] <Dr_willis> jerp,  about as far out in left field as ya can get. :)
[03:44] <Dr_willis> jerp,  now a look at the Montors Manuals/docs may give some specs that may be handy to know.
[03:45] <dwidmann> jerp: it'll help a lot if you happen to know the horizontal sync and vertical refresh of the new monitor
[03:45] <jerp> alrighty then
[03:46] <dwidmann> Plug those numbers in when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it practically can't get the resolution/refresh rate wrong
[03:46] <LBB> dwidmann
[03:46] <dwidmann> yo
[03:46] <snowrichard> Marvin was manic-depressive, not paranoid: )
[03:49] <jerp> thanks for bearing with my newb identity
[03:51] <dwidmann> need something LBB?
[03:51] <Robinator> I am searching for 2 packages
[03:52] <Robinator> there is  "php4-pear"  and  php4-gd2"
[03:52] <Robinator> but for php5:
[03:52] <Robinator> there is no "pear" and only  php5-gd"  but no gd2
[03:52] <Robinator> where are the packages for php5 ?
[03:54] <dwidmann> Robinator: There seem to be quite a few php5-related packages, according to "apt-cache search php5" anyway
[03:55] <Robinator> dwidmann, only  php5-gd
[03:55] <Robinator> not  php5-gd2
[03:56] <Robinator> and there is no pear
[03:57] <dwidmann> there is no php5-pear, but it seems php-pear is a replacement package of some sort, it depends on php5-cli
[03:58] <Robinator> hum
[03:59] <dwidmann> two LBBs now o.O
[03:59] <LBB_> dwidmann its both me, but on different pc's
[03:59] <dwidmann> aha, that makes sense
[04:00] <LBB_> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:01] <malik__> how do i shut down mldonkey deamonm which is running in the background?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/whatever-runs-mldonkey
[04:02] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/whatever-runs-mldonkey stop
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <LBB_> dwiddman: you recomended i try to make my system bootable by chrooting into it, but when i tried to mount my hda5 i get an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/ ( output of sfdisk -l also included)
[04:05] <malik__> sudo: /etc/init.d/mlnet-mldonkey: command not found
[04:05] <Dr_willis> i would guess ya typed somthing wrong...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/ml<tab>
[04:06] <malik__> or should i kill it from task manager
[04:06] <Dr_willis> proberly BEST to tell the service to stop
[04:06] <Dr_willis> since it may start backup again
[04:06] <Dr_willis> if you just kill it.
[04:08] <cpk1> trying to figure out why my nvidia driver randomly broke =\
[04:08] <malik__> oki damn thing is sitting somewhere in /usr/bin/mlnet
[04:08] <malik__> how do i stop mlnet from running constantly?
[04:09] <mirshafie> Hello. I have a huge problem with my file systems (ext3). After using the computer for a while, I'm suddenly unable to write to them, and I get a message which say the disk is full. But df or any other tool will claim that they still have plenty of space available. This happens on both my hard drives - I have two large ext3 partitions. What's wrong?
[04:09] <malik__> since its a deamon n wont stop automatically
[04:10] <mirshafie> Oh, yeah... i can only write to the disks if I'm root after that point, meaning, suddenly for no appearent reason, my disks requires me to be root.
[04:11] <LBB> mirshafie did you check your rights?
[04:11] <cpk1> how much space is left mirshafie?
[04:12] <cpk1> iirc once you get to a certain percentage full then only root can write to prevent a user from completely stuffing the drive
[04:12] <mirshafie> LBB: yes, i have the right permissions. and usually, i can write to all dirs, but it suddenly just goes funny
[04:13] <mirshafie> cpk1: 36 GB + 40 GB left
[04:13] <cplusplus> hi
[04:13] <cplusplus> hi what is filesystem: udev mounted on /dev and none mounted on /dev/shm ???????
[04:15] <Dr_willis> those are special 'virtual' filesystems
[04:15] <Dr_willis> udev - is the dynamic 'devices'
[04:15] <Dr_willis> shm - i think is some way of accessing system memory
[04:16] <mirshafie> btw, this has happened before. can't remember if it was on dapper or edgy, but it wasn't very long ago. i finally freaked and reinstalled everything.
[04:16] <LBB> dwidmann: you recomended i try to make my system bootable by chrooting into it, but when i tried to mount my hda5 i get an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/ ( output of sfdisk -l also included)
[04:17] <cplusplus> <Dr_willis where can i see swap?
[04:17] <cplusplus> i dont know the name
[04:17] <cplusplus> sda1 or 3 or...
[04:17] <Dr_willis> bookmark tldp.org for the linux tutorials. :)
[04:18] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[04:18] <Dr_willis> shows all drives and partitions on the drives
[04:18] <Dr_willis> check the /etc/fstab file to see what swap entrys are there also.
[04:19] <cplusplus> it tells me partition 2 doesnt end on cylinder boundry
[04:19] <cplusplus> boundary
[04:19] <cpk1> has anyone had any problems recently with the "nvidia" driver? out of nowhere I cant load the nvidia module anymore
[04:19] <dwidmann> LBB:LBB_: try sudo umount /dev/hda5, then try mounting it to the new /mnt/tmp directory again
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Not sure thats a real problem. cplusplus
[04:19] <cplusplus> i resized my swap partition
[04:20] <Dr_willis> why did you do that?  heh.
[04:20] <cplusplus> i need 5mb
[04:20] <cplusplus> for a fat32 partition
[04:20] <dwidmann> this not ending on a cylinder boundary problem, what causes it anyway? I've never even heard of it before
[04:20] <Dr_willis> dare i ask why... :)
[04:20] <dwidmann> fdisk woes perhaps?
[04:20] <cplusplus> fidisk of what?
[04:20] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:20] <LBB> sudo umount /dev/hda5
[04:20] <LBB> umount: /dev/hda5: not mounted
[04:21] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  think of it as a chapter in a book ending on a half a page. while the next chapter starts on the bottom half of hte next page.. :) i guess
[04:21] <Dr_willis> if you use fdisk right, it normally dosent happen. if you tell the partitiosn to be a specific size it may  end up not being on a cylinder end.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> at least i think thats how it happens
[04:22] <dwidmann> LBB: so, after retrying the mount, did it work, seeing as it says it's not mounted?
[04:22] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:22] <LBB> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/tmp
[04:22] <LBB> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/tmp busy
[04:23] <dwidmann> lovely, try sudo umount /mnt/tmp
[04:23] <Dr_willis>  /mnt/tmp busy? seems odd
[04:23] <LBB> dwidmann: and no, my mnt/tmp is not busy
[04:23] <malik__> does any one know how to stop mldonkey from running in the background?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> check the mldonkey homepage/docs?
[04:24] <dwidmann> "fuser -ck /mnt/tmp" >:-)<
[04:24] <malik__> cant see nothin there
[04:24] <cplusplus> dr_willis: http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gentoofc1.png
[04:24] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:24] <LBB> sudo umount /mnt/tmp
[04:24] <LBB> umount: /mnt/tmp: not mounted
[04:24] <dwidmann> LBB: That's weird as it comes, try using fuser ...
[04:25] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  so when you resized swap you put it on a cylinder boundry...
[04:25] <cplusplus> how?
[04:25] <Dr_willis> notice the 14 - 76  77-####
[04:26] <Dr_willis> those are the cylinder/block #'s
[04:26] <cplusplus> ?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> how did you resize it anyway
[04:26] <dwidmann> Also, LBB, did you try booting into single user mode before doing this .. might have worked, I doubt it would start the mysql daemon in single user mode
[04:26] <cplusplus> with parted
[04:26] <cplusplus> resize
[04:26] <Dr_willis> and WHY is this even a problem? its not a problem as far as i know.. whats the actual problem/error messages you are having?
[04:26] <tony__> hello and mery xmas everyon .
[04:27] <tony__> is there antivirus program for linux kubuntu ?
[04:27] <cplusplus> i want to format the 5 mb which i resized swap to fat32 but i cant see it
[04:27] <Dr_willis> tony__,  there are.. but nor really neded
[04:27] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  you did make the new partition type to be fat32?
[04:27] <cplusplus> no
[04:27] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  that screen shot shows it as being a linux partition
[04:27] <tony__> im using thunderbird email .. so i don't want to forward emails with virus to others
[04:27] <cplusplus> i cant see the new space!!!!!
[04:28] <Dr_willis> you mean from within windows you cant see it?
[04:28] <cplusplus> i should now see 5mb without any filesystem?
[04:28] <cplusplus> i cant see it on linux
[04:29] <cplusplus> i just want to format the 5mb to fat32
[04:29] <jerp> It's a no go on the Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh in the manuals that came with my monitor.  I'll try the dpkg command on Xorg you guys provided above.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> your fdisk -l just showed it.. you need to set its type to be fat32, from within fdisk/parted  then format it as needed.
[04:29] <cplusplus> but fdisk need any device?
[04:29] <cplusplus> where do you see my 5mb with fdisk -l ????????????????????
[04:29] <dwidmann> I vote for backing it up , and recreating it proper
[04:30] <Dr_willis> that screen shot ya just gave me shows it..   dident it?
[04:30] <jerp> thanks for your help, bbl
[04:30] <cplusplus> wher do you see 5mb?
[04:30] <towync> hello
[04:30] <dwidmann> yo
[04:31] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  if fdisk -l isent showing it.. then you never made it.. that last partition isent your windows one?
[04:31] <cplusplus> why windows?
[04:31] <cplusplus> wdf
[04:31] <Dr_willis> You just said you are trying to make a little fat32 partition for windows to use.
[04:31] <cplusplus> no
[04:31] <cplusplus> not for windows
[04:32] <cplusplus> i dont understand parted
[04:32] <Dr_willis> If fdisk -l issnt showing the partition as you think it should.. then you proberly dident make one.
[04:32] <cplusplus> i resized my swap about 5mb but it never shows it in fdisk -l?
[04:32] <towync> i can't get my wireless up again =(, i had newest ndiswrapper installed and i did (ndiswrapper -i) for the driver, no error msg at all, i can configure wlan0 in network settings, but the usb wireless card light just wouldn't come on
[04:32] <towync> any ideas?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> i am guessing you dident apply the changes and had it actually do the resizeing.
[04:33] <cplusplus> <Dr_willis: does fidisk -l show a space without any partition?
[04:33] <towync> o this usb wireless card worked before and i reinstalled kubuntu like half an hour ago
[04:33] <cplusplus> or filesys
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Looks to me like you got a Linux aprtition, swap, then anotehr linux partition. No sign of any  fat32 filesystems at all.
[04:33] <cplusplus> does fidisk -l show a space without any filesys?
[04:34] <cplusplus> i never made a fat32
[04:34] <LBB> Dr_wilis your last command made me logout!? (and I had to reboot cause i didn't know the user pw)
[04:34] <cplusplus> because i cant see the free space of 5mb
[04:34] <Dr_willis> If there were free/unallocated space. it should be showing it - i think.. you may want to install gparted and do the work from it.
[04:34] <cplusplus> no
[04:35] <cplusplus> gparted?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> If you shrunk your swap. and made a 'new' partition in the middle of the drive - they may be out of order also. that can cause problems.
[04:35] <cplusplus> now?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> gparted/qtparted - are gui's to the parted tool.
[04:35] <cplusplus> i dont have any gui at the mom
[04:35] <cplusplus> gnome is not finished
[04:36] <Dr_willis> are you resizing the partitions on the drive you are currently running your linux system on?
[04:36] <dwidmann> in the case of qtparted, an incomplete gui to the parted tool ...
[04:36] <cplusplus> i resized swap and unmounted it before
[04:36] <cplusplus> nothing else
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Its possible the system is not seeing the changes to the drive. and needs a reboot.. seen that with some drive repartitioning and various installers.
[04:37] <cplusplus> could u help me?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ive often have had to 'reboot' the installers right after partitionign the drives
[04:37] <cplusplus> i just need a fat32 partition image....want to save any fat32 partition with dd.......
[04:38] <cplusplus> could u do that and send me?
[04:38] <cplusplus> i dont have any space on my sda3 ;/ 99 % used
[04:39] <Dr_willis> all my fat32 partitions are my porn/game drives.. and are about 200+gb each.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> You could use dd, and the loopback filesystem features to make one - i belive.
[04:40] <cplusplus> could u make a 5mb fat32 for me?
[04:40] <cplusplus> just delete one porn?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> I dont think you CAN make a fat32 partition thats only 5mb big for one thing.
[04:40] <cplusplus> why not?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I thought it had a minimun size.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> why are you even needing such a thing?
[04:41] <cplusplus> no?
[04:41] <deviant> Does anyone know where I can download the usplash that is used on Edgy?
[04:41] <LBB> dwidmann / Dr_wilis mounting my hda5 gives me strange errors and sfdisk tels me I have partitions not ending on boundary's (wich it didn't before). Previous GRUB problems also led me to beleve my partition-table is f*cked. How do I check
[04:42] <cplusplus> what about MultiMedia Cards?
[04:42] <cplusplus> they also use fat32 sometimes
[04:42] <seven11> anyone know a good comand for folder size including all the subfolders
[04:42] <cplusplus> Dr_willis: i want to analyse fat32
[04:42] <dwidmann> LBB: take a look at sudo parted /dev/hda print, and perhaps you can rewrite the partition table, let me check the command for doing so
[04:43] <cpk1> seven11: du -h maybe
[04:43] <dwidmann> "sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos" - take the usual precautions
[04:43] <LBB>  take the usual precautions?
[04:44] <dwidmann> backup anything that you would cry if you lost
[04:44] <LBB> OK
[04:44] <cplusplus> Dr_willis?
[04:44] <Bluewolf> Does anyone know how to Show what firmware u have on your pc, for a wireless card?
[04:44] <Bluewolf> Is there a command?
[04:44] <seven11> cpk1: yes that works
[04:45] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  you can make one with the dd command...
[04:45] <kai> wasup people
[04:45] <Dr_willis> and mkfs and the loop filesystem.. i just googled how to do it. :P
[04:45] <cplusplus> look into your private mesage Dr_willis!
[04:45] <kai> ...Does Kubuntu hava a p2p client?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> gee a priv message that asks 'am i here' :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> wow...
[04:46] <dwidmann> nothing too special here kai
[04:46] <dwidmann> kai: comes with ktorrent, it's a p2p ...
[04:46] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:46] <LBB> sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos
[04:46] <LBB> Warning: Partition(s) on /dev/hda are being used.
[04:46] <dwidmann> LBB: try to umount them all
[04:46] <kai> dwidmann: more like something like Limewire or morpheus or something
[04:46] <towync> hey my wireless card isn't working and when i do dmesg the last line is ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): etho0: link is not ready, also the wireless card light doesn't come on, anyone can help?
[04:46] <purpleposeidon> how do I increase the resolution on a widescreen moniter?
[04:46] <LBB> afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:47] <dwidmann> kai: I think there's a limewire client or two, think the Free one is called frostwire
[04:47] <edrex> anybody know what happened to the PLF mirror at freecontrib?
[04:47] <purpleposeidon> system settings only shows 800x600....
[04:47] <kai> dwidmann: frstwire...?
[04:47] <dwidmann> edrex: I think they moved it to somewhere else, not sure where
[04:48] <dwidmann> kai: yes
[04:48] <edrex> dwidmann: can't find a link
[04:48] <LBB> dwidman afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:48] <LBB> dwidmann afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:48] <kai> nice, now let me find it
[04:48] <dwidmann> LBB: cat /etc/mtab
[04:49] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: If you happen to know the horiz sync & vertical refresh, it'll be easy, can you find them?
[04:49] <purpleposeidon> possibly
[04:49] <purpleposeidon> do I have to add something to xorg.conf?
[04:50] <dwidmann> google the model of your monitor with the words vertical refresh, you might find it pretty easily
[04:50] <purpleposeidon> thanks
[04:51] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... there'll be a part for monitor configuration, if you choose advanced and plug in the vertical refresh and horizontal sync ratios it almost always gets it right, in my experience
[04:51] <LBB> dwidmann afaik still nothing mounted on hda (check for yourself on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38837/)
[04:52] <Bluewolf> Hello I`m trien to figure out how to, Show what firmware i have for my Intel wireless ipw2200, Can anyone help me? is there a site i can go to or a command i can type in?
[04:52] <dwidmann> LBB: a reboot should umount it seeing as you're running from the livecd
[04:53] <dwidmann> sometimes that's the easiest way to resolve this problem
[04:53] <LBB> dwidmann don't understand
[04:53] <LBB> did you see my paste?
[04:54] <dwidmann> if it's complaining that it's mounted when it in fact isn't, rebooting usually solves that problem, and yes, I do see your paste, it definitely isn't mounted
[04:54] <LBB> dwidmann OK I'll reboot.
[04:54] <CSonicGo> hey guys is RADEON Mobile cards supported in Kubuntu?
[04:54] <CSonicGo> I'm getting a new notebook with that as a video card.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> my x200 works
[04:55] <CSonicGo> I was just wondering if I'll have accelerated support. oh ok
[04:55] <Dr_willis> x200m that is.. but really its not an imnpressive card.
[04:55] <CSonicGo> well this is a new card
[04:55] <CSonicGo> the newest mobile card that is
[04:55] <Dr_willis> even accelerated it can do gltron/other games ok.. but dont expect quake4 to rock.
[04:55] <dwidmann> hehehe, quake 4 :D
[04:56] <Dr_willis> i noticed that suspend/resume even works now on my laptop
[04:58] <rick_> Anyone here know anything about printers and Kubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_willis> they print....
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <rick_> LOL My HP4P spits out 2 empty pages every print job, but my Epson 860 doesn't. Why is this?
[04:59] <dwidmann> different drivers
[04:59] <rick_> How do I change this behaviour?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> its over 10 yrs old....
[05:01] <purpleposeidon> dwidmann: Does it matter what the identifier for the card is?
[05:01] <soulrider> i want a laser printer
[05:01] <soulrider> i hate printing
[05:01] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: no
[05:01] <soulrider> it takes 5 minutes for a damn page to come out!
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I got a little print server. for my printer. makes it fairly easy to setup
[05:03] <str> hi all
[05:04] <str> anyone here using beryl on kubuntu?
[05:05] <jerp> I don't know if I did anything right with that dpkg-reconfigure command
[05:05] <jerp> the font here looks different though
[05:06] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:06] <LBB> sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos
[05:06] <LBB> Warning: Partition(s) on /dev/hda are being used.
[05:06] <jerp> I never got to close out of the blue graphic screen,
[05:06] <LBB> on a clean reboot
[05:06] <dwidmann> LBB: That's just screwy.
[05:06] <LBB> hmm..
[05:07] <dwidmann> LBB: there's no swap partition on that drive is there?
[05:07] <LBB> yes there is
[05:07] <LBB> so how do i umount that?
[05:07] <str> could anyone help me to install beryl on my box?  I read  some wiki about installing it, but now the window manager does not show
[05:08] <dwidmann> LBB: maybe booting with the noswap option will work?
[05:08] <dwidmann> that, or try using swapoff <device>
[05:09] <jerp> Does anyone know if that happens it is a failure or nothing to worry about?----->   "I never got to close out of the blue graphic screen,"
[05:10] <jerp> It said I was about to overwrite a previously saved xorg.conf file
[05:10] <dwidmann> jerp: it was, but then it creates a backup as well
[05:10] <jerp> so I did the sudo reboot since I was at a terminal prompt
[05:11] <dwidmann> Did the dpkg-reconfigure finish?
[05:11] <jerp> and in the reboot it was said that the server crashed twice
[05:11] <dwidmann> hmmm
[05:12] <jerp> dwidmann, that's what I'm asking
[05:12] <dwidmann> try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, see if it finished
[05:14] <LBB> dwidmann the swapoff worked, but the mklabel made sfdisk believe there are 4 empty partitions !?! (see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38838/ )
[05:14] <jerp> I actually did fo through it twice,  first time when that notice came up at the terminal prompt, I deleted the file that it said I was going to overwrite, and then I reentered the command dpkg-reconf  xserver-xorg
[05:14] <jerp> went through it a second time and did the sudo reboot
[05:14] <jerp> and in the reboot it was said that the server crashed twice
[05:15] <dwidmann> !! LBB, 4 empties?
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LBB, 4 empties? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <dwidmann> LBB: are they mountable?
[05:17] <dwidmann> also, try sudo parted /dev/hda print
[05:19] <LBB> dwidmann no succes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38839/
[05:21] <dwidmann> erm, there are two things that can ber done, one of them is to try using parteds rescue command to get the partitions back,  the other is to try to restore the old partition table, and I forget the command for that but I'll have it in a minute, LBB
[05:21] <magicbronson_> i just plugged in a belkin usb wifi adapter, and it's showing up in kinfocenter as unknown under USB devices...
[05:21] <dwidmann> LBB: the one I'm thinking of is testdisk
[05:22] <LBB> dwidmann No manual entry for testdisk
[05:22] <poseidon> yay, moniter works!
[05:22] <dwidmann> LBB: to get testdisk, if rescue fails to work for you, is to enable the universe repository, "sudo apt-get install testdisk", then use "testdisk /dev/hda"
[05:23] <dwidmann> fortunately I'm well versed in partition recovery due to personal catastrophes of the past ...
[05:23] <LBB> dwidmann: how do i try rescue?
[05:23] <magicbronson_> anyone know about getting wireless cards to be recognized?
[05:24] <dwidmann> LBB: first, "sudo parted /dev/hda" to start parted
[05:24] <dwidmann> then I believe it's something like "rescue", it'll ask for the supposed starting area and ending area
[05:25] <dwidmann> It can take a little time to work, but if it hasn't been written over, it will find it.
[05:25] <jerp> hmm, so I don't know about my 4yo BFG Asylum Nvidia GeForce FX 5600 Ultra sportin' 128megs, it might be time for me to break down and shell out some more on this setup.
[05:26] <LBB> dwidmann: how do i find out the supposed starting area and ending area?
[05:27] <||arifaX> Hi, I need to apply a command to all *.txt in a folder how can I do that from terminal. in win I did something like for /f %a in ('command') do echo %a how ist this in linux?
[05:27] <dwidmann> LBB: how big were the partitions, and where were they on the disk?
[05:27] <dwidmann> vague works
[05:27] <jerp> what's that composite entry suppose to read in Xorg.conf?   and do I do the "ARGLXVisuals"  (or something like that?)
[05:28] <dwidmann> starting point for the first would probably be something like 0MB, then guess about the ending point and see what it finds
[05:28] <LBB> dwidmann wdym where they on the disk???
[05:28] <dwidmann> then use that ending point as the next starting point, until you've found them
[05:28] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: I think it might be something like  echo whatever > *.txt , or with two >
[05:29] <purpleposeidon> one of them appends, and the other replaces, air
[05:29] <dwidmann> testdisk might be faster/easier, but if it really was a filesystem table problem, then that problem will come back if you use it.
[05:29] <dwidmann> (at least, I think it would)
[05:30] <LBB> dwidmann how would i install testdisk if i dont have aworking system?
[05:30] <dwidmann> LBB: live cd
[05:30] <||arifaX> purpleposeidon: I have a dir with a lot of dll files and I need to apply a command to all of them in the form "gacutil -i <file>" so I need a combination of ls -l *.dll and gacutil -i
[05:30] <dwidmann> LBB: last time this happen to me I was using Knoppix 4.x dvd, and it came with it, but I've done it with Kubuntu livecd before also.
[05:31] <LBB> dwidmann so i can just use the adept in my liveCD?
[05:31] <dwidmann> LBB: right
[05:31] <dwidmann> LBB: Keep in mind it's in universe though
[05:31] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: So you're just doing one command? then you could do gacutil -l *
[05:31] <LBB> I'll try that
[05:32] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: or *.dll
[05:32] <dwidmann> LBB: I think I've found your starting/ending points
[05:32] <dwidmann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/
[05:34] <LBB> dwidmann are the points in the same units? does it matter that this partition table is probably f*cked already?
[05:35] <dwidmann> I'm not sure if parted will take it in cylinders or not
[05:35] <dwidmann> you can try?
[05:35] <||arifaX> purpleposeidon: does not work that way, already tried that
[05:35] <dwidmann> I know it behaved very weirdly when I left off the mb/gb when I used it, so it might take the cylinders
[05:35] <purpleposeidon> mm, I don't know then, sry
[05:37] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:37] <LBB> (parted) rescue
[05:37] <LBB> Start? 0 Mb
[05:37] <LBB> Error: Invalid number.
[05:38] <dwidmann> hmmm
[05:38] <dwidmann> no spaces?
[05:38] <dwidmann> Maybe it doesn't like the space
[05:40] <LBB> dwidmann: yup, had found it out aswell
[05:41] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:41] <LBB> End? 23429
[05:41] <LBB> Information: A ntfs primary partition was found at 32kB -> 12GB
[05:43] <McGruff> bah humbug
[05:43] <McGruff> may the people at nvidia rot in hell
[05:44] <dwidmann> LBB: good news :)
[05:44] <dwidmann> LBB: how about the rest?
[05:44] <dwidmann> McGruff: why do you say that?
[05:45] <LBB> dwidmann my first partition is found, but start 12GB and end 12GB found nothing
[05:45] <dwidmann> if the starting and ending point are the same, you won't find much
[05:45] <dwidmann> did the cylinder idea work, or no?
[05:46] <LBB> dwidmann: its a small partition (my boot)
[05:46] <McGruff> because I have had nothing but one grief stricken moment trying to get their drivers to work, and the moment it works, i reboot and i'm back at square fucking one
[05:46] <forge> feisty herd?...
[05:46] <forge> hmmm
[05:46] <forge> is that good?
[05:46] <dwidmann> LBB: change the range to something like 12gb to 13gb, or some such
[05:46] <LBB> dwidmann 12 and 13 GB nothing either
[05:47] <dwidmann> Hmm
[05:47] <forge> grrr I still have these power manager issues
[05:47] <dwidmann> 12gb ~= 12,288mb, try 12,275mb to somethinl ike 13,000mb?
[05:47] <dwidmann> (without the commas, of course)
[05:48] <ForgeAus> what causes errors in Power manger (guidance-power-manager.py) ?? Signal 11 SIGSEGV
[05:48] <jerp> I got it to work without the fault box when the desktop appears.  So we're kickin' chicken!  just need some more mem
[05:48] <[abhishek] > kopete with jabber for logging into gmail.com gives connection error ? any idea?
[05:48] <reldruh> hi. Every time I try to use a wireless connection I set up with ndiswrapper, my entire computer (everything but the mouse) freezes. My computer reports the connection is working but if I ever try to use it the whole thing crashes
[05:49] <reldruh> [abhishek] : you need to change the server to talk.google.com, I think
[05:49] <reldruh> that's how I get into my gtalk account
[05:49] <reldruh> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support is a really good page for getting it set up
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: they work fine for me ...
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: what have you tried, you running dapper, or edgy?
[05:50] <McGruff> my problem is the nvidia-glx package will not work
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: which card is it?
[05:50] <[abhishek] > reldruh: thanks i am checking for the same
[05:50] <McGruff> i keep getting this lame error stating the kernel module has a different version from the X module
[05:50] <reldruh> [abhishek] : no problem. It's easy once you know how to do it
[05:51] <dwidmann> ForgeAus:  Signal 11 can be caused by pretty much anything in a kde app, AFAIK, it's the generic error that most things seem to terminate with ...
[05:51] <reldruh> can anybody help me fix my ndiswrapper problem?
[05:51] <[abhishek] > reldruh: what is port number for that?
[05:52] <dwidmann> McGruff: have you tried to install from out-of-repositories, then tried to install another one without removing previous ones, or some such? That will ALWAYS cause trouble
[05:52] <reldruh> [abhishek] : it's the default. You don't have to change that
[05:52] <dwidmann> McGruff: try running envy, it may fix your problems
[05:52] <dwidmann> !envy | McGruff
[05:52] <ubotu> McGruff: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[05:52] <ForgeAus> well it happens everytime on startup
[05:52] <McGruff> the problem i have is the uninstall doesn't unintall, it asks and I say yes, but strangely the stuff is still there
[05:54] <reldruh> hi. Every time I try to use a wireless connection I set up with ndiswrapper, my entire computer (everything but the mouse) freezes. My computer reports the connection is working but if I ever try to use it the whole thing crashes. Can anybody help me with that?
[05:54] <dwidmann> McGruff: I had run into similar problems when I tried to install the 96xx drivers, when i failed I tried to drop back to the 8xxx drivers, then I got that message, afterwards I tried envy and it fixed my troubles.
[05:56] <dwidmann> reldruh: have you tried posting on the ubuntuforums .... I'm pretty clueless on wireless myself. Seems wireless in a major pain in the butt in general :\
[05:57] <reldruh> dwidmann: no, I haven't tried the forums yet. I was hoping to get some more immediate help here. Everything seems to go fine until I try to use it
[05:59] <LBB> dwidmann: parted found nothing between 12275MB and 13000MB
[06:00] <dwidmann> LBB: it takes some tinkering to get that right, maybe testdisk would give much faster results
[06:00] <McGruff> Anybody: where can i find the official envy site?
[06:01] <LBB> dwidmann i'm installing that right now
[06:01] <dwidmann> !envy
[06:01] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[06:01] <dwidmann> That's the official site ...
[06:01] <McGruff> ah cool
[06:03] <ForgeAus> dwidmann, how about power management and video? does that narrow it down any?...
[06:03] <ForgeAus> there is another time it happens (peripherals - monitor/display settings)
[06:03] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: laptop issues are a weakpoint of mine, I don't have one :(
[06:04] <ForgeAus> I'm not using a laptop!
[06:04] <ForgeAus> its just a desktop
[06:04] <dwidmann> o.O ah
[06:05] <dwidmann> So what exactly do you need powermanagement to do then?
[06:05] <dwidmann> Is it causing any major problems?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> stop c ausing errors and allow the Monitor/desktop settings to work (and to allay any occasional random errors sigsegv gives otherwise)
[06:07] <dwidmann> try sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-guidance && sudo apt-get install kde-guidance
[06:08] <dwidmann> Did it do it from first boot? If not, this may fix it
[06:08] <ForgeAus> thanx
[06:08] <ForgeAus> yes did it from first boot
[06:08] <dwidmann> rats
[06:08] <ForgeAus> both inside and outside of VMware)
[06:08] <ForgeAus> and once on a diff machine
[06:08] <ForgeAus> I wonder if the CD had an error?
[06:09] <ForgeAus> erm iso
[06:09] <ForgeAus> I'll redo the guidance thing anyway...
[06:10] <dwidmann> kay
[06:10] <LBB> dwidmann testdisk only lists hdd?!
[06:10] <mosud> hi
[06:10] <LBB> hi
[06:10] <dwidmann> LBB: you have to run it as sudo testdisk /dev/hda
[06:10] <dwidmann> otherwise it will only list your cd drive
[06:10] <LBB> ok
[06:14] <LBB> dwidmann : it found my partitions, but also reported an error about the number of heads being 8 instead of 16?!
[06:14] <ForgeAus> hmmm 175mb is a huge upgrade
[06:14] <dwidmann> Well, we knew there was a problem, but at least it can find and (should) recover your partitinos
[06:15] <dwidmann> 175mb ... not too big, heck, openoffice is like 130mb alone
[06:16] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:16] <LBB> dwidmann on closer inspection: it didn't find my swap, its searching deeper now
[06:17] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:17] <dwidmann> LBB: if swap is the only thing missing, it can safely be redone without issue
[06:17] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:17] <flaccid> !ask > mosud
[06:19] <mosud> how can I cache web pages on my ubuntu?
[06:20] <flaccid> mosud: your web browser usually has a cache. what kind of cache do you want?
[06:20] <flaccid> !squid
[06:20] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB
[06:20] <abattoir> mosud: you're using firefox or konqueror?
[06:20] <flaccid> ?
[06:20] <mosud> I have both
[06:20] <flaccid> they both use their own cache
[06:21] <dwidmann> ubotu: caching doesn't seem to work so well in konqueror
[06:21] <dwidmann> wait, why did I say ubotu, silly me
[06:21] <flaccid> hehe
[06:21] <flaccid> isn't he cute
[06:22] <dwidmann> !botsnack
[06:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:22] <mosud> is it possible for the cache to be available offline
[06:22] <mosud> that is the kind of cache am talkig about
[06:22] <abattoir> mosud: check Settings->Configure Konqueror->Cache for konq.
[06:23] <ForgeAus> eek yum? no thanx!!
[06:23] <flaccid> mosud: firefox. file | work offline
[06:23] <dwidmann> konqueror's caching options are rather lacking . ..
[06:23] <ForgeAus> Yum and Yast are Yuck!
[06:23] <abattoir> mosud: if you want to save the web pages for viewing them offline, check Tools->Archive Web Page
[06:23] <flaccid> i want some lobster
[06:23] <abattoir> (again for konq.)
[06:24] <mosud> ok
[06:25] <abattoir> for simple pages, Location->Save as should also work fine
[06:33] <mikael_> hey
[06:34] <mikael_> anybodt
[06:34] <mikael_> ... anybody
[06:34] <mikael_> hmmm...
[06:34] <mikael_> ?????????
[06:34] <abattoir> !ask
[06:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <abattoir> :)
[06:35] <mikael_> oki... i think i've started the wrong program...
[06:35] <mikael_> sorry... :(
[06:35] <abattoir> mikael_: ok
[06:36] <tony__> no one here tonight ???
[06:37] <abattoir> there are 262 other people here :)
[06:37] <tony__> lol
[06:37] <tony__> no one talking
[06:37] <tony__> i need a bit of help
[06:37] <abattoir> tony__: with what?
[06:37] <tony__> i installed mail notifier from repo , but is not showing anywhere
[06:37] <tony__> it called xmail
[06:37] <tony__> i belive
[06:38] <abattoir> !info xmail
[06:38] <ubotu> xmail: advanced, fast and reliable ESMTP/POP3 mail server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.22-2 (edgy), package size 196 kB, installed size 764 kB
[06:38] <abattoir> tony__: i don't think it's just a mail notifier
[06:38] <McGruff> dwidmann: is not getting an NVIDIA splashscreen normal?
[06:38] <McGruff> i got one with the other driver install
[06:38] <dwidmann> oops, I got beeped
[06:38] <tony__> well, the info on this program it says mail notifier
[06:38] <dwidmann> McGruff: well, the logo can be turned off
[06:39] <dwidmann> Check with nvidia-settings to see if you're using the right driver
[06:39] <McGruff> ok
[06:39] <McGruff> you aren't by chance familiar with Beryl are you?
[06:39] <abattoir> tony__: are you sure? it doesn't here
[06:39] <akrus> someone help me T_T
[06:40] <tony__> give me few second, i get the correct name
[06:40] <ForgeAus> I tried beryl
[06:40] <ForgeAus> installed it successfulyl
[06:40] <akrus> something's wrong with CUPS, it does not print anything except test page from web-interface ~_~
[06:40] <ForgeAus> just add the beryl repository to your sources.list in adept
[06:40] <akrus> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[06:40] <tony__> it called xmailbox
[06:40] <akrus> :)
[06:41] <akrus> so had someone same problem with cups?
[06:41] <abattoir> tony__: aah ok... did you try running it?
[06:41] <tony__> i can not find the program to run
[06:41] <tony__> is not listed anywhere
[06:41] <tony__> and im not good with konsol
[06:41] <abattoir> tony__: open a konsole/terminal, and type 'xmailbox' (w/o the quotes)
[06:41] <akrus> 'Check if the following command is correct: cupsdoprint...'
[06:41] <tony__> ok
[06:41] <ForgeAus> I didn't actually get it to work because my PC crashed before I rebooted to try it out, but it wasn't beryl's fault that I know of
[06:42] <ForgeAus> the programs to configure it worked tho
[06:43] <mrreview> Hi i have a problem
[06:43] <mrreview> recently installed wine
[06:43] <ForgeAus> maybe it should have been called cubux :) rofl
[06:43] <mrreview> and i can0t run it :(
[06:43] <ForgeAus> awesome Wine!
[06:43] <ForgeAus> you can't?
[06:43] <ForgeAus> why not?
[06:43] <mrreview> here i can paste u the log
[06:44] <mrreview> http://phpfi.com/187962
[06:44] <tony__> thanks that workd, but the program sucks . lol
[06:44] <tony__> need to find something better
[06:44] <ForgeAus> mr review I doubt I could help you
[06:44] <ForgeAus> but I'll take a look
[06:44] <ForgeAus> it worked ok for me but I didn't come across any problems
[06:44] <mrreview> i asked on #winehq.. but nothing works
[06:45] <mrreview> they said me that i can try to ask here
[06:45] <ernz> Morning all
[06:45] <ernz> Does anyone know how I can retain bluetooth functionality if I were to switch back to Ubuntu?
[06:45] <ForgeAus> well theres more to wine than just running an executable
[06:46] <ForgeAus> are you familiar with GUI interfaces?
[06:46] <mrreview> hmm no
[06:46] <ForgeAus> if your using kubuntu theres an emulation addon package that combines this stuff
[06:46] <ForgeAus> otherwise your just going to have to read all the text that comes with wine and learn how to use it
[06:47] <ForgeAus> btw if you aren't using a gui how do you expect to use wine? lol
[06:47] <mrreview> well i think yes lol
[06:47] <mrreview> i0m using kubuntu,,.
[06:47] <ForgeAus> at the very least you'd need (I imagine) Xwindows...
[06:47] <mrreview> :P
[06:47] <ForgeAus> well from in kubuntu find the emulation addon package
[06:48] <ForgeAus> and it has wine tools in there
[06:48] <mrreview> wich name you know?
[06:49] <mrreview> libwine, libwine-deb, winefish
[06:49] <mrreview> only these 3 packages i can read
[06:51] <premier> hi.  I cant seem to access super user mode konquerer no matter what I do
[06:51] <McGruff> ok this is a problem with Beryl, which was working just fine yesterday but with all the nvidia strangeness it could be broken now, but this is what happens when i start beryl-manager, the screen turns into a screwed up photo negative
[06:51] <premier> I type into the console kdesu konquerer, right?
[06:52] <mrreview> premier, try to write this 'sudo konqueror'
[06:53] <matthew_> mrreview, it's better to use kdesu for graphical applications.
[06:54] <dwidmann> mcgruff, I've been here off and on, I hear it's a side effect of playing games and ircing at the same time :D I've no idea what the problem is with it mcgruff, what version of the nvidia driver do you have installed?
[06:57] <ForgeAus> whats the difference between kde-core and kubuntu-desktop?
[06:57] <McGruff> dwidmann: it's particularly annoying when it was working just a few hours ago
[06:57] <dwidmann> kde-core only installs a select few packages
[06:57] <dwidmann> namely kde-base, kdelibs, you know, barebones
[06:58] <ForgeAus> basically all the apps here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core ?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> so does that mean ubuntu + kde-core would be an alternative to kubuntu?
[07:00] <dwidmann> It would be like having a vanilla kde with almost no apps installed, unless you're coming from gnome (ubuntu is such a vague word nowadays)
[07:01] <McGruff> dwidmann: actually i have nothing running on the desktop, but it just does the nutty screen warping, the funny part is the windows themselves move, i wish i could take a screenshot to illustrate the problem
[07:02] <ForgeAus> but you can add/update apps with core, all I read about it says its faster thats all
[07:02] <ForgeAus> is that because of the lack of apps or for another reason?
[07:02] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: I have some twisted mixture of kde-core and kubuntu :D
[07:03] <ForgeAus> lol
[07:03] <ForgeAus> I have kubuntu but I was thinking of switching the KDE to core
[07:03] <ForgeAus> then adding the extra apps ontop of it
[07:03] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: it's faster due to the lack of extra things installed, like for example, if you don't need wireless support, or laptop support, you don't need to have daemons running for it, etc
[07:03] <dwidmann> The more things that have to r un the slower you go
[07:04] <ForgeAus> ahh kewl laptop support... thats good to remove for me I don't need that
[07:04] <ForgeAus> wireless I'll probably keep tho... (I have a wireless multifunction/printer)
[07:04] <dwidmann> kubuntu installs a bunch of things per default, just because a lot of people need it (even though a lot of people don't)
[07:05] <ForgeAus> ie ark I'd like to remove
[07:05] <dwidmann> kde-core more or less needs to be done from a fresh text-only install to get much out of it.
[07:05] <ForgeAus> not that I'm against Konqueror but krusader + firefox seems a more likely solution to file manaagemnt browsing and archiving
[07:06] <premier> !eclipse
[07:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[07:06] <ForgeAus> eclipse rox
[07:06] <ForgeAus> you need sun java tho
[07:06] <ForgeAus> lotsa plugins for it
[07:06] <ForgeAus> for various languages, uml, etc
[07:06] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: Konqueror is included in kde-core
[07:07] <ForgeAus> basically like an alternative Visual Studio-like environment
[07:07] <ForgeAus> yeah oh well Konqueror is kewl but theres a diff between having it and using it
[07:08] <dwidmann> I think you can change the default fm, I forget where to do that though, have to edit some config file, somewhere
[07:08] <max__> how can i add a partition to my fstab?
[07:09] <McGruff> and it appears that changing ANY setting in beryl-manager trips this problem
[07:09] <dwidmann> Pull up your fstab in <editor-of-choice> and add a line to the file ... the format would be like that of the other lines max__, but the details will differ
[07:09] <ForgeAus> McGruff sounds tuff I don't know how to help you
[07:09] <max__> where is fstab?
[07:09] <dwidmann> max__ /etc/fstab
[07:09] <dwidmann> !fstab | max__
[07:09] <ubotu> max__: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:09] <McGruff> hmmm the Beryl log did provide a possible clue
[07:10] <dwidmann> do tell
[07:10] <max__> thanks
[07:10] <McGruff> "No GLXFBConfig for default depth"
[07:11] <dwidmann> Hmm, google for "GLXBConfig depth" and see what you find I suppose
[07:12] <ForgeAus> wow I managed to make a shortcut to trash on my desktop using a url instead of file link!
[07:12] <ForgeAus> (ie used trash:/
[07:12] <ForgeAus> what other "pseudo" protocols are there that I should know about?
[07:12] <ForgeAus> back
[07:12] <ForgeAus> I got booted breifly
[07:12] <McGruff> doin that now actually
[07:13] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: I know a few
[07:13] <dwidmann> applications:/, settings:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> fish:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> smb:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> fonts:/ media:/ system:/
[07:13] <ForgeAus> wow
[07:13] <dwidmann> home:/ too I think
[07:14] <ForgeAus> so lotsa stuff from the menu?
[07:14] <ForgeAus> is there some kinda guide to them?
[07:14] <dwidmann> I'm not sure, I think they're called KIO slaves, but I was never too clear on that
[07:16] <towync> dum de dum
[07:16] <dwidmann> later
[07:16] <dwidmann> oops, too late
[07:16] <MarkF> can we install mythtv on kubuntu 6.10?
[07:17] <MarkF> ...question open to all
[07:18] <dwidmann> I don't see any reason why not
[07:19] <MarkF> does kubuntu come with myth?
[07:19] <ForgeAus> hmmm I can't access my video card's capture capabilities from within the VM I guess so MythTV is proably no use to me
[07:19] <ForgeAus> MarkF I don't hitnk so
[07:19] <ForgeAus> but it can be installed into it
[07:19] <MarkF> whats the command to install myth?
[07:20] <ForgeAus> I don't actually know it offhand
[07:20] <ForgeAus> um I found it in a repository, you'd have to go finding which one it come from to know
[07:20] <MarkF> Its never that easy anyway... thought Id ask
[07:21] <MarkF> thanks
[07:21] <ForgeAus> well thats the easiest way fi you browse for repoistories
[07:21] <ForgeAus> and just add them using manage repositories in adept
[07:21] <ForgeAus> you'll come across one sooner or later that has MythTV
[07:22] <ForgeAus> or browse for the website and see if you can instal lit from there?
[07:22] <MarkF> OK THANKS
[07:23] <ForgeAus> in essence... I don't know the one simple answer but I do know a way :)...
[07:23] <McGruff> ok this is odd, starting in 24 bit mode is what trips the NVIDIA splash screen
[07:24] <ForgeAus> McGruff, well your one step closer to solving the problem... at least now you know what it is
[07:24] <McGruff> found it
[07:24] <McGruff> it wasn't specified in 24 bit mode
[07:24] <McGruff> it was reset to 16 by the new driver
[07:24] <ForgeAus> what mode is it in?
[07:25] <McGruff> the driver install had overwritten the xorg.conf file
[07:25] <McGruff> i added the options back in but forgot about the bit mode
[07:25] <ForgeAus> sounds like a manual way of doing things :( but sometimes thats whats required
[07:26] <McGruff> hey i like an error that makes sense
[07:26] <McGruff> it's the baffling ones that seem to have no rational cause that drive me insane
[07:26] <ForgeAus> rofl
[07:26] <ForgeAus> so if I'm going to run beryl I should make sure I'm in a 16bit mode?
[07:28] <McGruff> I'm guessing so
[07:28] <McGruff> that would be helpful in the docs :)
[07:28] <ForgeAus> is there a way to uninstall ark without uninstalling all of kubuntu desktop?
[07:29] <McGruff> i think Ark is one of the basic apps
[07:29] <ForgeAus> or should I just leave it in and ignore it?
[07:30] <ForgeAus> because its a menu item in Konqueror?
[07:30] <ForgeAus> Krusader handles zips, 7z etc much nicer....
[07:50] <SAngeli> Hi, how to share my data between my gentoo and my new imac?
[07:50] <sl8_> is it possible to merge a ext3 and reiser partition into one without having to relocate data?
[07:53] <SAngeli> where is samba in kubuntu?
[07:56] <matthew_> SAngeli, sudo apt-cache search samba
[07:56] <SAngeli> matthew_, I am trying to migrate some of my data from my kubuntu to my new imac and do not know how to on my local network
[07:56] <SAngeli> what should I do withough going crazy?
[07:58] <matthew_> SAngeli, if you type in the konsole "sudo apt-cache search samba" w/o the quotes, it will list package names that relate to samba...if you're more inclined towards a gui, then do this: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:58] <matthew_> SAngeli, then you can search from within that...
[08:00] <SAngeli> but is not there a gui for samba so that all I have to do is run the application?
[08:02] <sl8_> you have to install it first.
[08:02] <SAngeli> I was under the impression that if I would like to share an entire disk I would do like in windows. I do not have skills for doing manual konsole comands.
[08:02] <SAngeli> I see
[08:02] <SAngeli> let me see if it is installed
[08:02] <SAngeli> I was under the impression it was already installed
[08:03] <matthew_> SAngeli, it may be...I'm not sure...I don't really use Samba for anything....
[08:03] <sl8_> try konqueror.. goto the folder, right click it, properties, sharing.....
[08:04] <Rob-West> does konqueror work in gnome
[08:05] <sl8_> not naturally I think...but if u install it I dont see why it couldnt
[08:06] <CSonicGo> hey uhm
[08:06] <Rob-West> well im using konversation
[08:07] <CSonicGo> how do you see all "sessions" of a DVD?
[08:07] <CSonicGo> I have 3 sessions on one DVD.
[08:07] <sl8_> launch konqueror then?
[08:09] <Rob-West> i dont have it installed
[08:11] <Rob-West> ill install it
[08:13] <sl8_> is it possible to merge ext3 and reiser partition into one without data loss
[08:20] <matthew_> Merry Christmas, everyone...
[08:25] <rich_> how come when I try to download liquidweather++ it's in binary form, can't save it
[08:25] <rich_> .skz
[08:25] <ForgeAus> still there sl8?
[08:25] <abattoir> rich_: rt. click and save as
[08:26] <ForgeAus> maybe you  can convert and join one of the partitions?
[08:26] <abattoir> rich_: for some reason it opens up in kate...
[08:26] <ForgeAus> (just a thought)
[08:26] <sl8_> yep
[08:26] <rich_> ok thanks
[08:27] <ForgeAus> converting means no dataloss, not sure how or if joining can work tho..
[08:27] <ForgeAus> you' dhave to know more about the partition first..
[08:27] <ForgeAus> erm sorry the types first
[08:27] <ForgeAus> what you can and cant do with each
[08:28] <ForgeAus> either that or you end up with 2 of the same types of part... ?
[08:28] <rich_> what do I do with the .skz file?
[08:28] <matthew_> rich_, you open it from within superkaramba
[08:28] <matthew_> rich_, actually, you tell superkaramba to use it...it's a widget...
[08:29] <rich_> crashes everytime I open it with karamba
[08:29] <sl8_> hmm what if i just mount it to the same mount point as my other partition? its my old home folder
[08:29] <matthew_> rich_, did you save it from Kate?
[08:30] <rich_> yeah
[08:30] <matthew_> rich_, are you using karamba or superkaramba?
[08:30] <rich_> superkaramba
[08:30] <matthew_> rich_, that's bad...it corrupted the file.
[08:31] <matthew_> rich_,  you need to "save link as" from the website...
[08:31] <rich_> ok
[08:32] <matthew_> rich_,  you need to "save link as" from the website...if you d/l'ed it from a website...if you got it from within the superkaramba app...then I don't know...
[08:33] <towync> what's the channel for beryl?
[08:33] <towync> is it #ubuntu-xgl?
[08:33] <matthew_> #beryl   ?
[08:33] <towync> i don't know, there was one that started with #ubuntu
[08:33] <matthew_> hmm
[08:33] <towync> more specifically, i need to find the person helping me yesterday in that channel hehe
[08:33] <towync> i think the screen name was pricechild
[08:34] <towync> that's why i was trying to get back to that channel lol
[08:34] <rich_> I saved it as "save as" its a php file, what do I do now?
[08:34] <ForgeAus> easy do a whois
[08:34] <ForgeAus> they dont look like they're online righ tnow
[08:34] <ForgeAus> either that or they're using a different nick
[08:35] <towync> cool thx ForgeAus
[08:35] <ForgeAus> (or in some kinda stealth mode that /whois doesn't find them)
[08:35] <matthew_> rich_, I'm guessing either liquidweather or glass monitor...I had the same problem...try another mirror
[08:35] <towync> whois PriceChild
[08:35] <towync> like that?
[08:35] <ForgeAus> witha  / first
[08:35] <towync> o cool
[08:35] <towync> cool thx
[08:36] <matthew_> rich_, I'm going to go eat something...brb
[08:38] <momal> !skype
[08:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:40] <rich_> liquid weather is stuck on "loading, please wait..." any ideas?
[08:50] <Rob-West> how can i change my away reason in Konversation
[08:51] <ForgeAus> I would have said configure notifications but   I'm not sure its there
[08:57] <LBB> dwidmann fell asleep for a bit there...  testdisk finds a separate partition for my /home and / when the nr of heads is on its default 16, but tells me i should switch nrofheads to 8, when I do that and rescan it doesn't find my / and my /home, but it finds an lvm instead (wich is correct). I am no able to mount my / or /home though, i get the same "already mounted msg as before. Any ideas?
[08:58] <dwidmann> LBB: I'm surprised I haven't myself hehe
[08:58] <dwidmann> I'm not sure
[08:59] <dwidmann> I know it would be a pain, but if you have things backed up (which I suggested you do a while ago), a repartitioning from scratch would be easier. I'd understand if that isn't an option though.
[09:01] <LBB> dwidmann I'd rather go for the hard way and learn something (there IS a hard way, right? :) )
[09:02] <dwidmann> I hope so, I'm just throwing out the failsafe. Personally, I'd play around with parted's rescue command some more and perhaps testdisk also, and see if I couldn't get things back up and running
[09:03] <LBB> dwidmann suggestions on how to do that?
[09:03] <ForgeAus> grrrr kde is bloatware, I can't uninstall ark or qtparted (ie to replace them with other apps) without removing kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <ForgeAus> lack of customizing :(
[09:04] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: That's the fault of the kubuntu metapackage, not the fault of kde
[09:04] <dwidmann> if that metapackage is removed, it won't hurt anything
[09:06] <dwidmann> Basically, the job of the distribution is to come up with a set of defaults that appeals to most people, they're never going to please _everybody_.
[09:12] <ForgeAus> dwi thats fine I'm not concerned about the set of apps I'm concerned about the modularity of them
[09:13] <ForgeAus> they're not independant apps they're reliant on eachtoher :( it doesn't allow for choice that way...
[09:14] <racarr> Anyone have any advice on where to start if my bluetooth device isn't showing up anywhere?
[09:15] <LBB> racarr did you check system settings?
[09:15] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: there is plenty of choice there, just remove the metapackage, you still have everything, and you'll never get that message again
[09:15] <racarr> LBB: Haven't seen anything...but it's not showing up with hcitool
[09:16] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: for example, I don't have that metapackage installed, personally, I thought it was kind of annoying
[09:16] <racarr> Err
[09:16] <racarr> Device was the wrong term there
[09:16] <racarr> Bluetooth chip
[09:17] <LBB> dwidmann what else can i try in  testdisk?
[09:18] <LBB> racarr dont understand, did you or didnt you use "system settings"?
[09:18] <dwidmann> erm, LBB, I'm not sure, the problems I had were different(not quite as bad)
[09:19] <racarr> LBB: I looked, but theres nothing there, that's for connecting devices to the bluetooth chip not getting the bluetooth chip working
[09:19] <dwidmann> testdisk did what I wanted it to do for me both times I trashed my partition table, and on the first go at that
[09:19] <LBB> dwidmann any idea whats up with th nr of heads?
[09:20] <dwidmann> not a clue
[09:20] <LBB> racarr: then I'm afraid i don't know
[09:20] <dwidmann> I'll consult the all knowing google for advice
[09:22] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've an odd issue.  I've a recently installed Edgy desktop.  Earlier, sound was functioning as I could play music just fine.  When I tried it just now, however, audio is not being produced.  Programs that play sound are not reporting any errors, but I get no sound.  I've already tried checking the master software volume and swapping speakers to no avail, so it's not dumb user error (or at least not very-dumb user error <g>).
[09:22] <Crell> Any ideas what else to check?
[09:22] <racarr> I think maybe it's ACPI...
[09:23] <Crell> The "Test Sound" button in System Settings plays nothing but gives no errors either.
[09:23] <JOSF> Help! I installed several packages (all using adept_manager) and now lots of programs won't start. The error I get is: adept_manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_Library_SetLcdFilter
[09:23] <LBB> Crell do you get system-sounds?
[09:23] <JOSF> What do I need to do now in order to resolve the problem ? I am on Edgy.
[09:24] <Crell> LBB: You mean general beeps and such?  Nope.  No audio at all, although the software behaves as if it's playing.
[09:25] <LBB> Crell have you got another os you can test
[09:25] <JOSF> jj/join #linuxhelp
[09:25] <JOSF> sorry
[09:26] <Crell> No, it's single-boot.  And the Kubuntu Live CD doesn't boot properly on this box either; it has garbled video, and I had to install from an alternate install CD and then install the nvidia drivers before I got any video at all.
[09:27] <LBB> Crell any other live-cd's available?
[09:28] <Crell> Um.  I think I've an old Breezy Live CD I've not used in forever. :-)
[09:28] <dwidmann> When it comes to live cds, can't go wrong with knoppix
[09:28] <LBB> its just to double check for human errors...
[09:29] <weiers> Hi, I've just installed kubuntu edgy (I'm used to ubuntu) and my first problem is that it would seem that I can only access 817 packages (already installed) via adept. I've edited the repository list to contain all the universe and multiverse repositories, but nothing new shows up. What am I doing wrong?
[09:29] <Crell> I think I've a very old Knoppix around here somewhere.
[09:29] <Crell> I'll give one of them a whirl and be back in a few min, I guess. :-/
[09:31] <LBB> dwidmann did you find anything? / what did you search for?
[09:31] <weiers> Would kubuntu automatically connect to the repositories through my proxy? (I have it specified under the network settings)
[09:31] <seven11> weiers: did jo check under system adept manager
[09:31] <dwidmann> I tried searching for partition numer of heads, but I'm getting rather generic results
[09:31] <weiers> seven11, yes ... I configured the sources.conf in there
[09:31] <LBB> hmm
[09:33] <seven11> weiers: i have 20206 packages there
[09:34] <weiers> seven, that is what confuses me
[09:35] <seven11> weiers: your sourcetext has universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:35] <weiers> synaptic in ubuntu gives me as much
[09:35] <weiers> seven11 yes
[09:35] <weiers> I get the impression that it is not connecting to the internet
[09:35] <weiers> but just looking at what is available on the cd
[09:36] <weiers> I do have internet access - and can browse the web
[09:36] <weiers> but I cannot install firefox or thunderbird
[09:38] <seven11> weiers: check /etc/apt/sources.list again
[09:40] <Crell> LBB: Hi again.  Breezy Live CD had garbled video, but audio worked fine.
[09:41] <LBB> Crell: el at least now you know for sure its a software problem
[09:41] <Crell> Yep.
[09:41] <weiers> seven11, I've once again checked it
[09:41] <Crell> Any suggestions as to what sort?
[09:42] <LBB> Crell did you check wich driver you're using?
[09:42] <Crell> It's set to Auto.  I'm switching it to alsa now to see what happens.
[09:42] <Crell> No change.
[09:42] <Crell> No change if set to OSS, either.
[09:43] <Crell> The card is an SB Live! emu10k1, so it's well-supported.  lsmod is also reporting a ton of snd drivers loaded, including emu10k1.
[09:45] <Crell> ... OK, wait.  wtf.
[09:46] <Crell> Here's a different question... My system has 2 sound devices; onboard sound and the SB Live.  I thought the onboard was disabled, but apparently it's not and Kubuntu keeps trying to use that instead. o_O.  How would I convince it otherwise?
[09:46] <Eyeless> Crell: i had the same problem, i managed to disable the built in card somehow
[09:47] <Crell> Hrm.  I THOUGHT it was disabled in the BIOS.
[09:47] <Crell> At least my old Debian system on here never picked up the onboard sound.
[09:47] <Eyeless> i "think" you do that in one of the alsa-config files
[09:48] <Crell> Any idea which?
[09:48] <LBB> crell did you try override device location?
[09:48] <Eyeless> nope, but i googled it and found a thread on rhe ubuntu forums
[09:48] <LBB> in system settings/sound
[09:49] <seven11> anyone know if i can scan a xp on the network for virus from linux
[09:49] <Crell> LBB: Um, I see no option there to change the device.
[09:49] <Crell> Oh, wait, I see it.
[09:50] <Crell> What would I override it with?
[09:50] <LBB> crell not sure but i'd guess /dev/something
[09:51] <Crell> That only gives me 698 possibilites. :-)
[09:51] <Eyeless> Crell: not much, if you dont have souround i dont think there even is one
[09:51] <Crell> I've 4.1 speakers, but they're not the greatest speakers.
[09:52] <Eyeless> ahh well then atleast its woth the hassle
[09:53] <rich_> what do I save a .skz file as at a mirror? it automatically goes to kate
[09:53] <LBB> Crell btw are you saying you do get sound on the onboard?
[09:53] <Crell> I don't have the rear speakers behind me, of course.  Just wider in front. :-)
[09:53] <Crell> LBB: Yes.  If I leave Kubuntu to its own devices (no pun intended), then it's apparently generating sound just fine via the onboard sound chip.
[09:53] <Crell> Which I thought I had disabled, as it's not been used in, well, ever.
[09:54] <Crell> I want it to use the SB Live card instead.
[09:54] <LBB> what do you mean apparently, didnt you test it?
[09:54] <Crell> I did.
[09:55] <Crell> Manually specifying /dev/audio1 or /dev/audio0 in the sound system config panel results in no audio from anything.
[09:56] <LBB> Crell can you check wich dev is used in the other os?
[09:56] <Crell> No, because I can't get actual video out of it for some reason.
[09:57] <LBB> Crell how about that old knoppix?
[09:57] <Crell> It's from the same era as the Breezy CD, so I doubt it.
[09:57] <Crell> I wonder if the onboard audio is fully disabled in the BIOS.  I thought it was, but now I'm not so sure.
[09:58] <Crell> I'm going to reboot and check.  BBIAB.
[10:00] <LBB> I'm off to bed, dwidmann, thx a lot for your help, see you later!
[10:00] <dwidmann> good night
[10:01] <dwidmann> and you're welcome :)
[10:01] <rich_> in a mirror for a .skz file how do I save it as it is without corrupting it by opening kate up, which utlity should I use?
[10:02] <matthew_> rich_, hey, sorry, I totally forgot about you...the turkey and stuffing were just too much for me...lol
[10:02] <Eyeless> Crell: the file you need to check is: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[10:02] <rich_> no problem
[10:02] <matthew_> rich_, still need help, I take it?
[10:03] <rich_> yeah
[10:03] <Crell> So apparently it was enabled. Why it never caused a problem on my old Sid system I don't know, but I disabled it and now Kubuntu is picking up the SB Live no problem.
[10:03] <matthew_> rich_, ok, which widget did you want?
[10:03] <rich_> liquid weather ++
[10:03] <Eyeless> Crell: goodie, no need to edit strange files then :P
[10:03] <Crell> Always a plus. :-)
[10:03] <matthew_> rich_, ok...h/o
[10:04] <Crell> Thanks all.
[10:06] <matthew_> rich_, are you getting it from here?       http://liquidweather.net/downloads.php
[10:06] <max__> Hi i have a problem, i have a 2gb partirion on my HD, it shows up inder Storage Media but when i go to put somthing on it it says "an unknown error has occured"
[10:07] <matthew_> max__, you need to mount it first, I think.
[10:07] <rich_> yes that site
[10:07] <matthew_> rich_, ok...which mirror did you try to get it from?
[10:07] <rich_> 1
[10:07] <rich_> should I save it as php file?
[10:07] <rich_> otherwise kate opens it
[10:08] <matthew_> rich_, no, just try to download it from a different mirror...2,3, or 4...
[10:09] <max__> matthew: how do i mount it
[10:09] <matthew_> left-click...don't do a "save-as"
[10:09] <rich_> ok
[10:09] <matthew_> max__, sudo mount /dev/device_number               <----type that in a terminal if you know the device_number (ie hda1, hdb2, etc...)
[10:10] <matthew_> rich_, did they all fail?
[10:10] <rich_> it's in kate
[10:11] <matthew_> all of them?
[10:11] <rich_> yeah
[10:11] <matthew_> hmmm
[10:11] <rich_> should I save it even though it says it will corrupt?
[10:11] <matthew_> rich_, no, it will corrupt.
[10:11] <matthew_> rich_, actually, give that a shot...I may have done that, too...lol, I can't remember
[10:16] <matthew_> rich_, did that work?
[10:16] <sebbar> hello everybody. On dapper my sister configured kopete (even if she doesn't remember how) to use random colors for her text messages. Now she's on edgy and wants this behaviour back... does anybody know hot to configure this?
[10:20] <sebbar> nevermind I found it under plugins
[10:20] <rich_> nope
[10:20] <matthew_> rich_, bummer...sorry, but I'm out of ideas...lol
[10:28] <kev1n> i need some assistance with kubuntu related issues
[10:28] <unix_infidel> !ask
[10:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <kev1n> this has to do with dual booting..
[10:29] <kev1n> i have just installed edgy
[10:29] <kev1n> and now i cannot get into windows at all
[10:29] <kev1n> i come up with a missing or corrupt ha1.dll file
[10:29] <kev1n> i have read about it via googling
[10:30] <kev1n> but i cant seem to get myself into windows at all
[10:31] <kev1n> i need help from someone to get to the windows area via grub...
[10:32] <kev1n> all this appears to have come from a known critical bug in edgy
[10:32] <sebbar> could you link to the bug report?
[10:32] <kev1n> wait one... i will get it up
[10:35] <computer> did firefox come with kubuntu edgy?
[10:36] <computer> i had firefox working earlier before i reinstalled kubuntu
[10:36] <computer> but i forget how i got firefox last time
[10:36] <sonicGB> computer: what is 'edgy' in numbers?
[10:36] <computer> if it came with kubuntu could someone tell me where it is?
[10:36] <computer> 6.10
[10:36] <computer> sonicGB i think edgy is 6.10
[10:36] <sonicGB> ok, giz a minute, I'll check, I have kubuntu 6.10 on my other laptop
[10:37] <sebbar> :computer no it doesn't, just sudo apt-get install firefox or use adept
[10:37] <computer> cool thx sebbar
[10:37] <sebbar> or try konqueror as a browser option, works quite nicely as well
[10:38] <computer> i don't like konqueror that much for some reason =) i don't know why, lol
[10:38] <matthew_> computer, try sudo apt-get install firefox-bin
[10:38] <matthew_> or swiftfox-bin...
[10:39] <computer> can i do adept manager and then search and install firefox?
[10:39] <matthew_> computer, yes, but synaptic might be safer (no chance of wiping your machine...)
[10:39] <computer> i'd like to get the latest version firefox tho, unless that's complicated then i'll pass and do the simplest way =)
[10:39] <sonicGB> thanks sebbar, my answer isn't all that good anyway. Mine does have Firefox on it, but it's in a non-standard place, so I can't be sure that I didn't install it after the event!
[10:40] <rich_> anyone know what program I can save .skz files to?
[10:40] <computer> sonicGB thx alot for looking it up for me =)
[10:40] <matthew_> computer, I think the stuff in the repo's (firefox, at least) is recent.
[10:40] <computer> matthew_ cool, do i have synaptic tho, i'm using kubuntu, if not, is there an equivalent?
[10:41] <matthew_> !synaptic | computer
[10:41] <ubotu> computer: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:41] <computer> cool
[10:41] <matthew_> computer, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:41] <sonicGB> u most welcome computer
[10:41] <sebbar> I always used adept with no problems at all :-)
[10:41] <gnomefreak> why not sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:42] <computer> matthew_ k thx
[10:42] <matthew_> sebbar, I wiped my installation using adept...totally sucked!
[10:42] <sonicGB> gnomefreak: 'cos not everyone likes command lines :-)
[10:42] <matthew_> computer, np
[10:42] <gnomefreak> sonicGB: he just told him to sudo apt-ge tinstall synaptic
[10:42] <matthew_> sonicGB, If you use linux, the CLI _will_ come into ply
[10:42] <gnomefreak> why not skip the non usefull step
[10:43] <matthew_> gnomefreak, why not install a piece of software that is very useful and safe?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> matthew_: adept is safe
[10:43] <matthew_> gnomefreak, adept has not proven safe in my experience with it.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> its missing some nice features but its as safe as synaptic
[10:43] <matthew_> !worksforme | gnomefreak
[10:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:43] <sonicGB> matthew_: having administered some twelve different flavours of *nix over the past 15 years or so, I reckon I've seen a CLI or two in my time. However, I've also supported one or two folks who get a bit out of sorts when asked to type 'commands', so I try to keep an open mind about what works for what folks... :-)
[10:44] <matthew_> sonicGB, lol, very true...sorry if I touched a nerve...
[10:44] <gnomefreak> matthew_: if you mess up in synatptic or adept same results will be seen
[10:44] <matthew_> gnomefreak, I'm not sure that you can w/ synaptic...unless you uninstall something essential...
[10:45] <gnomefreak> matthew_: do as you wish but both do essentially the same thing
[10:45] <gnomefreak> just as smartpm does
[10:46] <matthew_> gnomefreak, very true. In my estimation (flawed as it may be), synaptic is better.
[10:46] <sonicGB> computer: in Kubuntu, clicking 'start' (the 'K' icon) and "Add/Remove Programs" gets you 'Adept' installer. Change the 'KDE' to 'Any Suite' and search for 'Firefox' (and 'synaptic' for that matter. Synaptic is more nicerer!!!)
[10:46] <computer> firefox is working! thx so much everyone for the input, hope i didn't start any bad karma lol, but it was great seeing the discussions, i could prolly learn something googling the stuff i saw earlier =)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> matthew_: i agree it is better (more features) but if you can mess up in one you can do same in the other
[10:46] <computer> cool thx sonicGB =)
[10:46] <matthew_> compilerwriter, glad to hear it.
[10:46] <matthew_> whoops...^^^^^^^^^@ computer
[10:47] <computer> hehe i saw compilerwriter in here couple days ago too =)
[10:47] <sonicGB> matthew_: no worries... :-)
[10:47] <matthew_> !smartpm > matthew_
[10:47] <computer> he helped me with something but i forgot what it was, i usually have a bunch of questions in here lol
[10:47] <matthew_> computer, yeah, me too...just remember to pay it forward!
[10:47] <sonicGB> computer: what everyone here is saying about 'synaptic' is good advice. If you like more information/more control, synaptic will give it to you.
[10:48] <computer> ic
[10:49] <sebbar> is smartpm going to make it into feisty?
[10:49] <computer> yeah i wanted to use synaptic at first cuz i saw it occur frequently in forums, but then the first time i used kubuntu i had no idea where to look up synaptic, and after awhile i just thought synatpic is only for ubuntu for some reason, anywayys =)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> adept is missing some very good features that synaptic has. and its not looking good that it will change since they are lacking devels on it. but give root to anyone you can screw anything up
[10:49] <gnomefreak> sebbar: its on edgy and dapper also
[10:50] <sebbar> :gnomefreak yeah but I'd like to see it installed by default
[10:50] <gnomefreak> sebbar: the .50 will be in feisty and it fixes alot of bugs that were found in other versions
[10:50] <fdoving> sebbar: it is in universe, and has been for some time. i doubt it will become the default anytime soon.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> sebbar: no it wont be
[10:50] <sebbar> ok tnx
[10:50] <sonicGB> computer: for future reference, a lot of the default stuff is different between ubuntu and kubuntu, but kubuntu includes all the gnomey-stuff that is required to install the ubuntu stuff, so if something you read about/want isn't there, just install it! :-)
[10:50] <computer> matthew_ will certainly try to pay it forward, although i'm still very much newbie, but i can sure say i can help with wireless setup now (had to do it again today lol), but i guess most people in here already have internet setup =)
[10:51] <sonicGB> computer: hang on here. Soon enough you'll find folks more n00b than you asking questions that you know the answer too, and you'll be able to help :-)
[10:51] <computer> sonicGB cool, it's good i get that cleared up cuz i was always a little fuzzy about what i thought i can/cannot use
[10:52] <computer> sonicGB yeah looking forward to that =)
[10:52] <sonicGB> computer: by way of example, the stuff I just told you about gnomey-stuff being included in kubuntu... I only learned that about three days ago :-) :-) :-)
[10:52] <computer> sonicGB hehe cool!
[10:52] <matthew_> computer, lol, yeah, guess so, hee hee hee
[10:53] <computer> yup =)
[10:53] <sonicGB> now... does anyone else have a kubuntu-specific quesiton for me, or can I shut down this bleating laptop on my left? :-) :-)
[10:54] <matthew_> go for it sonicGB ....I'm man the fort for awhile...
[10:54] <matthew_> watching season 2 of lost...it's so good!
[10:54] <computer> yeah thx alot sonicGB, i'm pretty much done today, g2g sleep soon lol
[10:55] <rich_> what program should I save ,skz files in, kate keeps corrupting them, (trying to install liquid weather ++
[10:55] <computer> matthew_ maybe i should start watching lost, i've never seen even one episode of that show tho, but lots of people around me watches it
[10:56] <fdoving> rich_: it's .zip files afaik.
[10:56] <matthew_> computer, you can find the torrents for seasons 1 and 2 on torrentspy.com
[10:56] <computer> matthew_ cool, are they on season 3 now?
[10:56] <fdoving> !offtopic
[10:56] <matthew_> yeah, on tv...gotta d/l the episodes, one by one...bleagh...not looking forward to it...
[10:56] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:57] <computer> cool =)
[10:57] <rich_> fdoving, afaik means what?
[10:57] <matthew_> as far as I know
[10:57] <fdoving> rich_: as far as i know.
[10:57] <matthew_> fdoving, sorry...
[10:57] <computer> haha alrighty, sorry bout the offtopic =)
[10:58] <matthew_> computer, I'm pretty sure he was talking to me...well, me and sonicGB
[10:58] <kev1n> sebbar... when i want to find the bug report.... guess what...i cannot find it.... i will keep looking....
[10:59] <sonicGB> fdoving is apokryphos' other /nick?
[10:59] <computer> hehe well i ethusiastically joined the discussion
[11:00] <matthew_> ah, well....so, anyone have any questions for me?
[11:01] <kev1n> sebbar..... the bug report is #67130 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130
[11:01] <sonicGB> computer: tread carefully... for the most part, these channels embrace the whole ubuntu thing, helping, supporting, etc, etc, but occasionally you get an op who feels the need to assert his authoritah... you've gotta watch those :-/    anyway... synaptic is definitately the more informative of the gui app managers....
[11:02] <matthew_> sonicGB, heh, authoritah
[11:02] <matthew_> sonicGB, just got your pm...no worries!
[11:02] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:02] <kev1n> what i have done is tried to get the install working and eventually did bu going back a step and manually organising the partitions..... but it seems to have corrupted or over written a windows required file
[11:03] <matthew_> kev1n, the mbr?
[11:04] <fdoving> sonicGB: i'm not apokryp, no. i'm me.
[11:04] <matthew_> kev1n, or something different than that?
[11:05] <sonicGB> no worries fdoving, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between folks on irc... no faces to put to names, etc, etc, you've just gotta go on attitudes and actions... such is the medium :-)
[11:05] <matthew_> lol @ sonicGB
[11:05] <sonicGB> kev1n: can you spell out (forgive my ignorance) the base problem you having? what is happening that's giving you grief?
[11:05] <sonicGB> s/you/you're/;
[11:06] <matthew_> sonicGB, what's that all about? the s/you/you're/;      ?
[11:06] <matthew_> corrections?
[11:06] <matthew_> hey, racarr!
[11:06] <sonicGB> matthew_: typo in my previous line, so I invoked a regex to search for "you", replace with "you're" :-)
[11:07] <racarr> Hi matthew_
[11:07] <fdoving> sonicGB: there is /whois nickname, which will give you some information on the users if they provide any. atleast I provide some info.
[11:07] <matthew_> sonicGB, gotcha
[11:07] <matthew_> racarr, everything goin' ok?
[11:07] <sonicGB> matthew_: I suspect I'm lagged a bit..
[11:08] <matthew_> sonicGB, in what fashion?
[11:08] <computer> snoicGB, matthew_ cool now i got synaptics running too, it didn't take all this time to get it running, i went to grab something to eat lol, anyways, thx u guys, and see you later, g2g sleep now =)
[11:08] <sonicGB> matthew_: well, my s/blah/blahblah/ was sent before your "what's that all about", but your response seemed to sugged that it was after
[11:08] <racarr> matthew_: Yeah...tired, heh
[11:09] <sonicGB> computer: glad we could help! :-)
[11:09] <matthew_> sonicGB, ah
[11:10] <matthew_> sonicGB, is the s/blah/blahx    a command line command, or special to an app like vi or vim?
[11:10] <matthew_> racarr, lol, it's quarter past 2 in the morning here...
[11:10] <racarr> matthew_: Quarter past 4 here, hehe
[11:10] <sonicGB> matthew_: the specific invocation is vi/vim-like.... <esc>%s/search/replace/g<enter> works in vi/vim
[11:10] <racarr> matthew_: s/bla/blahx is mostly generic, you could use sed or perl or something to invoke it at the command line, vi/vim will take it...etc
[11:11] <sonicGB> but what racarr said... it's ~almost~ generic
[11:11] <matthew_> gotcha'll
[11:11] <sonicGB> regex's are like most things... they're *almost* standard across-the-board :-)
[11:12] <matthew_> nice...
[11:12] <racarr> sort of
[11:12] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:16] <kev1n> sonicGB...sorry... iwas away for a little bit
[11:16] <sonicGB> no worries kev1n ... do you still need our help?
[11:17] <matthew_> kev1n, I'm going to bed half an hour...until then, I'm all yours...
[11:17] <kev1n> the problem was caused by installing kubuntu 6.10 on my windoze computer as a dual boot thingy
[11:17] <kev1n> i did this to learn linux before going full time an a few months time
[11:17] <kev1n> but i can now access linux through grub
[11:17] <matthew_> kev1n, so, what file that windows needs got erased?
[11:17] <kev1n> ha1.dll
[11:18] <matthew_> 4d
[11:18] <kev1n> thats the file that seems to be corrupted or missing
[11:18] <matthew_> kev1n, sorry, I'm not help...but I can google around, if you like?
[11:18] <kev1n> i cant get past that point when moving back into windows even in safe mode
[11:19] <rich_> are you able to download the .skz and save them fine, matthew?
[11:19] <kev1n> thanks matt.... can you do that... i have
[11:19] <matthew_> kev1n, have you tried the recovery console w/ windows?
[11:19] <kev1n> but have not had any luck
[11:19] <matthew_> kev1n, have you tried the recovery console w/ windows?
[11:19] <kev1n> uummm.... i have thought about that matthew...
[11:19] <sonicGB> kev1n: hall.dll sounds.. ouch... need more info though... how do you know that hal.dll is giving you grief... stepps you're taking to arrive at that, etc?
[11:19] <kev1n> but i dont have recovery console
[11:20] <kev1n> through grub...
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, you can boot from the windows disk and enter into a recovery console.
[11:20] <kev1n> when i click on windows to go into a windows screen...
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, no, you need the install disk for windows XP
[11:20] <kev1n> i get a message that i cant go any further
[11:20] <sonicGB> which windows screen? the black-with0widnows-logo booty thing?
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, no, you need the install disk for windows XP
[11:21] <kev1n> anf that the file ha1.dll in windows/root/system32 is corrupt or missing
[11:22] <matthew_> kev1n, do you have the disk that you can install windows XP from? Or is your windows an extra legal one?
[11:22] <kev1n> i have used the install disk on three different partitions on my two hard drives to no avail
[11:22] <sonicGB> ok, matthew_ and I are on different pages here, and tripping over each other... I'll step back until someone says I'm needed! :-) :-)
[11:22] <matthew_> sonicGB, thanks...
[11:23] <kev1n> i am using kubuntu right now.... it installed quite easily in the end
[11:23] <matthew_> kev1n, ok, you need to do this: Boot from the windows XP install disk. hit 'R' at the blue screen where it says "hit enter to install". then type in chkdsk /P
[11:24] <kev1n> ah...... that last comment i have not been doing....
[11:24] <kev1n> the chkdsk bit..
[11:24] <kev1n> that makes sense to me
[11:24] <matthew_> kev1n, actually, after you hit 'R', you need to hit 1, or whatever partition it's on, don't worry you'll see it.
[11:24] <kev1n> yeah... i have seen the partition things many times!
[11:24] <kev1n> thanks matthew ...thanks heaps
[11:25] <matthew_> kev1n, np
[11:25] <gundam00> please help.  My raid looks dead now...
[11:29] <kev1n> i need to reboot to do what i need to do...
[11:29] <kev1n> i will be online again at this time tomorrow
[11:29] <sonicGB> kev1n: are you right to get back on with a live CD if you need our help some more?
[11:30] <sonicGB> I hate sending people of to do mysterious things in winders-land or boot-land, but sometimes it must be done!
[11:30] <sonicGB> s/of/off/
[11:31] <goodthing> guys, i did sudo chmod -R 660 /media/backup/. my raid, how bad is that?
[11:31] <kev1n> yes... i can sonicgb
[11:31] <kev1n> no problems... what matthew has said makes sense to me..
[11:31] <sonicGB> kev1n: cool
[11:31] <kev1n> i should be right from there!
[11:32] <kev1n> np
[11:32] <kev1n> thanks heaps sonicgb
[11:32] <sonicGB> kev1n: it makes perfect sense to me too.. you should be fine
[11:32] <sonicGB> goodthing: it's not inherently bad.... what grief are you getting specifically?
[11:33] <goodthing> sonicGB: just no access, but i re-checked the button for open from konqueror and all seems fine again :)
[11:34] <sonicGB> goodthing: I love it when a plan comes together :-)
[11:34] <sonicGB> goodthing: however... do you know if your RAID is actually raiding? if this is important to you (and I'm guessing that you wouldn't have RAID at all if it wasn't) then you should poke around to confirm that it is...
[11:35] <sonicGB> there's really nothing much worse than an elaborate backup plan that turns out to have not been working, but you don't know that it's not working until you need it to have worked :-/
[11:36] <sonicGB> hey computer, towync ...
[11:37] <sonicGB> all good?
[11:37] <towync> yup
[11:37] <sonicGB> cool :-)
[11:37] <goodthing> sonicGB: Hmm, how could i check that? $ watch cat /proc/mdstat ?
[11:38] <towync> it's 2:37am now lol
[11:38] <sonicGB> goodthing: you seem to have your wits well about you already, pardon me if I'm teaching you how to suck eggs....
[11:38] <sonicGB> knowing what's going on in /proc/mdtstat is a good thing... watching is even better
[11:39] <goodthing> sonicGB: there is nothing wrong with trying to be helpfull. Thanks for the care
[11:40] <ForgeAus> wow kopete is interesting as an IRC client! lol
[11:40] <ForgeAus> not exactly what its meant for but its still interesting... kinda like Trillian I guess...
[11:41] <ForgeAus> actions don't get highlighted well tho
[11:41] <Sharketor> hello all
[11:41] <ForgeAus> hey sharky :)
[11:42] <Sharketor> libglib-dev and glib-dev are the same thing????
[11:42] <jim__> Looking for suggestions. tried to install a windows program with wine.. the .exe left a file in my /home, and this file has 0 bytes, says it does exist when i try to delete it, or rm it.
[11:42] <jim__> very strange..
[11:42] <ForgeAus> yes very strange
[11:42] <Sharketor> hi ForgeAus
[11:42] <ForgeAus> sharky I have no idea... they sound quite similar tho
[11:43] <sonicGB> u welcome goodthing
[11:44] <sonicGB> ForgeAus: I thought kopete did a pretty good job actually!
[11:44] <ForgeAus> Sonic, it does... seems to anyway..
[11:44] <ForgeAus> its just.. not like what I'm used to I guess
[11:44] <ForgeAus> big pretties for each message
[11:45] <sonicGB> if the msn support is not what you want, aMSN might be worth a look. It runs on winders, linux, osx.... it seems to cover almost everything that the original (evil) msn does!
[11:47] <ForgeAus> lol the original MSN was practically malware!... more like annoyware I guess...
[11:47] <sonicGB> malware works for me!
[11:48] <sonicGB> aMSN is a little bit evil actually... records webcam chats, records people's avatars, etc...
[11:48] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:48] <lupine_85> kopete ftw
[11:49] <sonicGB> "kopete forever two wheels"?
[11:49] <ForgeAus> kopetes nice, add a scripting engine and voila!
[11:49] <sonicGB> w00t
[11:50] <matthew_> sonicGB, lol, for the win...but you already knew that...didn't you?
[11:50] <matthew_> k, I'm going to bed....merry christmas everyone!
[11:50] <lupine_85> nah, kopete "feels the winnest" :p
[11:51] <sonicGB> matthew_: I'm a cynical person, I feared the worst. I googled and found several options, and chose to repeat the one most unlikely to confu^H^H^H^H^Hoffend the users.. this is an ubuntu channel after all! :-)
[11:51] <sonicGB> seeya matthew_, merry yesterday! :-)
[11:51] <matthew_> sonicGB, confu^H^H^H^H^offend    ?
[11:52] <lupine_85> ^H==backspace
[11:52] <sonicGB> what lupine_85 said
[11:53] <ctothej> how do i install linux header files?
[11:53] <ctothej> module-assistant tells me it cant find them
[11:54] <ctothej> kernel header files that is
[11:55] <sonicGB> ctothej: just so you know, you're not being ignored, if someone knows the answer, they'll cut in
[11:56] <RealisticDragon> looking it up now ;)
[11:56] <sonicGB> onya RealisticDragon :-)
[11:56] <RealisticDragon> doing helpdesk on my birthday too :P
[11:57] <sonicGB> that's the thing with those of us who hang on help channels... we actually don't know anything except how to work google :-) :-) :-)
[11:57] <sonicGB> happy birthday RealisticDragon :-)
[11:57] <RealisticDragon> cheers
[11:57] <RealisticDragon> and i have done it before, i just cant remember the package name :)
[11:57] <sonicGB> you and me both!
[11:57] <sonicGB> you an Aussie RealisticDragon ?
[11:57] <Lynoure> ctothej: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:57] <ctothej> sonicGB: ok thanks
[11:58] <RealisticDragon> no sonicGB
[11:58] <RealisticDragon> cheers Lynoure :)
[11:58] <Lynoure> ctothej: (disclaimer, I'm still somewhat ill, so no promises, just best effort)
[11:58] <sonicGB> thanky Lynoure
[11:59] <sonicGB> hi henny
[11:59] <RealisticDragon> lol this laptop actually has the headers installed :P
[12:00] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: could be worse... you could get "Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.3" when you type "uname -a" :-) :-(
[12:00] <Lynoure> I'm all confused now... RealisticDragon and ctothej are one person?
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> peu@elrsr-99:~$ uname -a
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> Linux elrsr-99 2.6.17-10-powerpc #2 Tue Dec 5 22:00:09 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> no Lynoure, im just me as far as I know
[12:01] <sonicGB> Lynoure: no, ctothej  is the original question-asker, and RealisticDragon and I are just two random folks trying to help, albeit ineffectively :-)
[12:02] <Lynoure> sonicGB: Ok, thanks for the clarification
[12:02] <RealisticDragon> so, i could be running darwin sonicGB :)
[12:02] <sonicGB> ctothej: did Lynoure's advice sort you out? do let us know if you still need help, ok!
[12:03] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: you could be! :-) !!! I'm running os x as-shipped on a c2d black macbook, 'cos I spent the money, I feel that I need to exercise it... (I have a dell x300 beside me with kubuntu 6.10 installed in case I need to actually fire up kubuntu to help someone! :-) )
[12:04] <ctothej> Lynoure, sonic: thanks im trying it out now
[12:04] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: my powerbook runs linux and (verrry occasionally) 10.3.9 in mac on linux... everything works, even suspend on lid close :)