[00:51] <Laney> Is there a way to get a list of package sets attached to an Ubuntu series?
[00:53] <sparc> Huh, wow.  Has it's own channel.
[00:54] <wgrant> Laney: I would have thought so, but apparently not. That's a little suboptimal.
[00:55] <wgrant> Laney: It would be easy to fix that, though.
[01:01] <Laney> wgrant: Ah, good to hear. Do you want a bug for it?
[01:02] <wgrant> Laney: That would be good. Even better if you fix it yourself, otherwise we'll probably get to it eventually.
[01:04] <Laney> of course. Maybe it'll give me an incentive to try some LP hacking, who knows.
[01:04] <wgrant> This is simple enough for a first contribution, and I'll happily guide you through it.
[01:04] <wgrant> So if you want to, feel free.
[01:06] <Laney> alright, I'll take that encouragement and try to get back to you in the next few days. :-)
[01:06]  * Laney → bed
[01:07] <wgrant> Great!
[01:07] <wgrant> Night.
[01:12] <sparc> If we'd like to try out hosting our own Launchpad, are some of the components packaged?
[01:12] <sparc> That we could install them with APT?
[01:13] <sparc> I see that the source is downloadable, but I thought I would check, otherwise, just in case
[01:17] <lifeless> sparc: hi; the generic things are packaged I think, but few of the actual launchpad components itself
[01:17] <sparc> lifeless: aah cool ok
[01:17] <lifeless> its not designed to be installed - and dpkg/apt really aren't designed to handle such applications (lots of separate machines, rapidly evolving configuraiton etc)
[01:18] <sparc> ok, then.  i guess it's best to build and run it, from the directions
[01:18] <lifeless> sparc: if you run your own, be sure to rebrand it per the license; alternatively perhaps you can host your thing on Launchpad - we do supply private hosting for folk that want that
[01:18] <sparc> and contribute back according to th edirections
[01:19] <sparc> hmm private hosting might be nice
[01:19] <sparc> i didn't know about that
[01:19] <sparc> thanks
[07:52] <roenbaeck> I have been trying to send mail to the maria-developers mailing list, but they are not getting through to the list. I tried adding a second mail address in my account, but sending from that address does not work either.
[07:54] <roenbaeck> Can anyone help me find out what is wrong?
[07:59] <wgrant> roenbaeck: When did you send the email?
[07:59] <wgrant> Did you get any notification about it being held for moderation?
[07:59] <wgrant> You've been allowed to send without moderation for at least 22 hours now, AFAICT.
[08:00] <knielsen> wgrant: I am a moderator for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>the mail did not show up as needing moderation ...
[08:00] <wgrant> OK, let me check the logs.
[08:01] <knielsen> thanks
[08:01] <wgrant> When were the emails sent?
[08:03] <knielsen> wgrant: March 28 around 16:41 CET DST, roenbaeck may know the exact timestamp ...
[08:05] <knielsen> https://lists.launchpad.net/maria-developers/ shows that a handful of other mails to the list did get in around that time, but not the one(s) from roenbaeck
[08:07] <wgrant> I see one message discarded at Mar 28 07:21:15 because it was sent with an unregistered email address. It was added 90 minutes later.
[08:08] <knielsen> wgrant: shouldn't we have gotten a moderation request for that? I seem to remember we usually get the chance to approve mails from unregistrered senders?
[08:08] <wgrant> knielsen: I think your email address needs to be known to LP, but you get moderated if you're untrusted and not a team member.
[08:09] <knielsen> oh
[08:09] <knielsen> wgrant: what time zone is the time stamp "Mar 28 07:21:15" ?
[08:09] <wgrant> knielsen: That's UTC.
[08:10] <wgrant> I think.
[08:10] <knielsen> roenbaeck: ^^^ could this be your mail? you wrote in #maria you sent another mail around 14:41 UTC, didn't you?
[08:10] <wgrant> knielsen, roenbaeck: There was another email discarded at 14:50 UTC
[08:10] <wgrant> Er, 14:40 UTC
[08:10] <wgrant> @subside.com, again.
[08:11] <wgrant> But this time it was from the email address "lars", it seems...
[08:11] <knielsen> wgrant: so the problem is that the sender mail address is not registrered with launchpad?
[08:11] <wgrant> No domain.
[08:11] <knielsen> yes, that would be the second mail ...
[08:11] <wgrant> Sending with either address will work now.
[08:11] <wgrant> They are both accepted.
[08:11] <wgrant> But the first email was sent before its address was added to LP, and the second had an invalid address.
[08:12] <knielsen> wgrant: ok, thanks for your help
[08:13] <knielsen> wgrant: I suppose there isn't a way (either for sender or list moderators) to see what the problem is in such cases ourselves?
[08:13] <roenbaeck> Sorry, was afk
[08:14] <knielsen> but it's good to know how the unregistered email stuff work, we can look out for that in the future
[08:14] <roenbaeck> Mails were sent as 8.21 and 15.40
[08:15] <roenbaeck> The 08.21 from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:15] <roenbaeck> The 15.40 from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:15] <knielsen> roenbaeck: wgrant found the problem it seems, one needs to be extra careful that the sender address in the mail is a valid email address, and registrered with launchpad (spam protection I suppose)
[08:15] <wgrant> knielsen: I don't think so :/ I believe we silently drop messages from unregistered addresses to avoid spamming innocent addresses used in spam
[08:16] <roenbaeck> Yes, strange that one of the addresses looked just like "lars" though, right?
[08:16] <knielsen> yes, strange indeed
[08:16] <wgrant> roenbaeck: It looks like it, yes.
[08:17] <roenbaeck> Using any of those two addresses now should work then? I could give it a try.
[08:17] <wgrant> Yep, both are good now.
[08:19] <roenbaeck> Ok, I just sent it from the subside.com mail
[08:20] <knielsen> rockstar: ok, will check in a few min that it got through
[08:25] <wgrant> roenbaeck: Just rejected again, same issue with "lars"
[08:26] <wgrant> roenbaeck: I can't see the email itself, but all the other similar errors have full email addresses, and yours just has "lars".
[08:27] <wgrant> roenbaeck: Could you email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so I can see what the headers look like?
[08:29] <roenbaeck> Absolutely, one minute
[08:30] <roenbaeck> Ok, sent it now.
[08:31] <wgrant> Huh, it looks fine.
[08:32] <roenbaeck> How is my name displayed? Just "Lars Rönnbäck"?
[08:33] <roenbaeck> Or as "Lars Rönnbäck [Subside]"?
[08:33] <wgrant> "Lars Rönnbäck [Subside]"
[08:33] <roenbaeck> And the brackets shouldn't be a problem?
[08:35]  * knielsen wonders if it's the 8-bit characters ä / ö that are the problem, maybe some MIME encoding confuses the Launchpad mail system?
[08:35] <wgrant> roenbaeck: They shouldn't be, but they might be. Is the other address another identity in the same client, without ' [Subside]'?
[08:35] <roenbaeck> I can remove the brackets and try again
[08:35] <wgrant> Thanks, that would probably be a useful test.
[08:36] <wgrant> Otherwise I'll get our mailman set up locally and see what happens if I run your email through it.
[08:37] <wgrant> There we are.
[08:37] <wgrant> That worked :/
[08:37] <wgrant> You just removed the square brackets?
[08:37] <wgrant> And the Subside
[08:38] <roenbaeck> Yes I removed the "[Subside]" part
[08:38] <roenbaeck> That was the only change
[08:38] <knielsen> nice!
[08:38] <knielsen> wgrant: thanks a lot for your speedy help, much appreciated
[08:42] <wgrant> roenbaeck: Thanks for checking that. I'll file a bug so we can work out what's up.
[08:42] <roenbaeck> No problem :)
[09:34] <mrevell> Hello
[09:36] <mok0> hey
[10:24] <popey> Is the process for getting a private PPA (for an ISV) documented anywhere?
[10:25] <popey> oh, found https://launchpad.net/+tour/join-launchpad#commercial
[12:11] <diwic> Hi, I'm having problems with my recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~diwic/+recipe/alsa-hda-dkms - it often, but not always, fail with "bzr: out of memory"
[12:13] <diwic> Sure, the source branch is huge (although I just need one tiny part of it, I see no way around that), but I thought the stacked-branch feature should help here?
[14:15] <fta> bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for https://xmlrpc.launchpad.net/bazaar/: Unable to handle http code 503: Service Unavailable
[16:22] <joey> Anyone help me with  OOPS-1914N888
[16:26] <joey> Ursinha: ^^
[16:28] <Ursinha> hi joey
[16:28]  * Ursinha looks
[16:29] <Ursinha> joey, you just hit it?
[16:29] <Ursinha> it's not on devpad yet
[16:30] <Ursinha> joey, do you have a paste or something? :)
[16:30] <joey> Ursinha: yeah I keep getting oopses with no traceback trying to go to https://launchpad.net/toolchain-arm-embedded
[16:30] <Ursinha> hmm
[16:31] <Ursinha> joey, oopses with no traceback?
[16:31] <Ursinha> it gives me a 404
[16:31] <joey> hmmm
[16:31] <joey> Yeah normally with my privs when I get an oops I get a full traceback and for a 404 I get no oops msg
[16:32] <joey> so possibly now 404s have oops numbers displayed
[16:32] <Ursinha> they are PageNotFound oopses, I believe
[16:34] <Ursinha> joey, NotFound: Object: <canonical.launchpad.webapp.publisher.RootObject object at 0x3867510>, name: u'toolchain-arm-embedded'
[16:34] <joey> ok thanks Ursinha ... that's a normal 404 then
[16:34] <joey> I guess the oops msg confused me
[16:35] <Ursinha> joey, do you have a printscreen?
[16:35] <Ursinha> I see regular traceback for page not found here
[16:35] <joey> hmm now it's a different page
[16:36] <joey> now it's the normal 404
[16:37] <airoine> hi. I try to upload a download file on my projet, but it's never works...
[16:38] <airoine> this file size is more than 120Mo
[16:38] <Ursinha> joey, hmm odd
[16:39] <airoine> do you think that the problem?
[16:40] <jml> airoine: maybe
[16:40] <jml> airoine: try uploading a smaller file?
[16:44] <airoine> jml: I can not send a fake file
[16:45] <airoine> users will not understand
[17:48] <SITZ> please help me with how to download source code from launchpad ?
[17:48] <SITZ> like I eant to download source code for WUBI which is hosted on it .... how can do it ?
[17:57] <SITZ> help
[17:57] <SITZ> help
[17:57] <SITZ> help
[17:57] <SITZ> help
[17:57] <SITZ> anyone here ?
[17:58] <james_w> SITZ, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/wubi/trunk tells you how
[17:58] <SITZ> but I want to download them ... will it be possible from here ?
[18:00] <Peng> Launchpad doesn't provide tarballs, but you can use bzr to get a copy of the branch, or download individual files through the "view branch content" link.
[18:00] <Peng> s/tarballs/tarballs for branches.
[18:03] <SITZ> Peng: any way to download all of the folders content at once ?
[18:04] <Peng> SITZ: bzr branch...
[18:16] <SITZ> Peng: ok.. will look for it
[18:30] <jo-erlend> I've started using Bazaar for my source code. I've never really used a VCS before, so it's a new experience. Seems nice. I understand Launchpad supports Bazaar, but how does it work when I push a commit onto LP? Does that make my private commits available, or will each push to LP get its own commit?
[18:36] <maxb> jo-erlend: Hi. "Push" is a means for uploading existing commits from one place to another. The contents, message, etc. of a commit are defined when it is committed - push just sends a copy elsewhere. So, "make my private commits available"
[18:37] <maxb> This, technically, is a question about Bazaar in general, not just when used with Launchpad. Such questions are welcome on #launchpad, but are more on-topic on #bzr, and may be worth asking there instead, to benefit from an audience more focussed on the nature of the question.
[18:38] <jo-erlend> maxb: great! I tried #Bazaar, but it seemed pretty lifeless :)
[20:32] <siretart> Hi
[20:33] <siretart> can someone please help me with this recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~motumedia/+recipe/libav-daily
[20:33] <siretart> it is building lp:libav, which was previously a 'personal' branch of mine: lp:~siretart/libav/master
[20:34] <siretart> now I've moved that to lp:~motumedia/libav/master so that it belongs to the team
[20:34] <siretart> however, the buildlog still mentions this:
[20:34] <siretart> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~siretart/libav/master/".
[20:34] <siretart> how to fix this? do I have to transfer the branch back to me?
[20:40] <bambee> evening
[20:41] <bambee> I cannot upload to ppa.launchpad.net via dput... (Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused)
[20:42] <bambee> the ftp server is down ?
[20:43] <lifeless> looks like
[20:44] <lifeless> bambee: you can try sftp with dput these days
[20:44] <lifeless> should be better
[20:44] <lifeless> its working
[20:44] <yofel> does that show the transfer progress by now? it didn't last time I tried it
[20:45] <lifeless> no idea sorry
[20:46] <bambee> lifeless: ok thanks
[20:47] <lifeless> ftp issue is being worked on
[20:56] <debfx> how can I report spam comments on the bug tracker? here on irc? :)
[20:57] <lifeless> file a ticket on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:58] <debfx> ok, thanks
[21:15] <james_w> hi siretart. That's pretty funky. Would you file a bug?
[21:23] <siretart> james_w: filed as bug #745230
[21:26] <james_w> thanks
[21:26] <james_w> I can't think where that info would be cached, but I'm likely missing something
[22:52] <wgrant> james_w, siretart: Probably a stacked branch.
[22:52] <james_w> wgrant, ah yeah
[22:55] <maxb> siretart: You can fix the stacking location yourself via suitable bzrlib calls
[22:55] <maxb> siretart: or, this script: http://j.maxb.eu/~maxb/bzr-set-stacked-url