[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> do you know how integrated a laptop is?
[11:23] <spazz> because
[11:23] <spazz> its not the damn hdd
[11:23] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: you mean that if one piece of the laptop is broken, it wont work at all ?
[11:23] <spazz> the windows installer wont copy certain files
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[11:23] <spazz> but otherwise copied the rest... why just those few?
[11:23] <danl> what package would contain the source files to the utilities in /bin ?
[11:23] <spazz> ok, then the other installer.. something about virtual memory , couldnt actually SEE wtf the problem was because the stupdi thing bluescrreened
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> because the HDD rejected them, it decided "i'm broken, I don't want to copy these files"
[11:24] <spazz> and then, ive had to reinstall ubuntu/kubuntu a few times cuz i broke the install
[11:24] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: ok lets assume that. how do you explain the disk slow down and the window which refuse to install now and worked before ?
[11:24] <spazz> ........
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Windows = Windows sucks
[11:24] <spazz> yea windows sucks but it doesnt suck as much as this does.
[11:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Disk slow down? wear and tear
[11:24] <spazz> least flash works in windows
[11:24] <aliasfre1> Admiral_Chicago: ok but do you have an explaination ?
[11:25] <zblach> linux doesn't wear and tear. flash mx works in linux, and windows has its uses
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me out hear+
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> zblach, drives do. hardware does
[11:25] <spazz> I am talking about flash player.
[11:25] <zblach> right. that's not 'linux's fault. that's general hardware degradation
[11:25] <spazz> video/audio sync
[11:25] <spazz> lack thereof
[11:25] <spazz> prettty common problem
[11:25] <aliasfre1> spazz: there are some hardware testing stuff
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> spazz, flash works in windows because adobe is stupid and wont release a linux version
[11:26] <zblach> spazz, from personal experience, i can tell you than anything worth anything has a non-flash equivalent
[11:26] <spazz> and ... then no flash 9 yet
[11:26] <aliasfre1> !memtest86
[11:26] <spazz> ...youtube.com lol
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> zblach, i never said it was linux's fault
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <aliasfre1> !memtest
[11:26] <zblach> not just adobe, but macromedia before it wasn't very supportive
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memtest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not blaming OSs for Hardware problem....or vice versa
[11:26] <zblach> but they're getting better
[11:27] <zblach> !klaptop
[11:27] <spazz> How can I test to see if my hdd is bad?
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klaptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <spazz> like... it just gets bad sectors ect ..before it implodes, and kills yoru family.
[11:27] <spazz> utorrent .. best bittorent client ive used
[11:27] <zblach> does anyone know about the laptop performance profiles?
[11:28] <spazz> worked* even better under linux thru wine
[11:28] <spazz> but now it wont work on this install
[11:28] <spazz> cuz wine is being gay
[11:28] <aliasfre1> spazz: watch the language please
[11:28] <spazz> what language? i think it was english.
[11:28] <zblach> spazz: profanity
[11:29] <aliasfre1> spazz: when you boot the install/liv cd do you have a memtest option ?
[11:29] <spazz> wtf .. what profanity heh
[11:29] <spazz> yea memtest
[11:29] <spazz> seen it on the install cd
[11:29] <aliasfre1> spazz: ok run it, it will test the ram
[11:29] <spazz> why do i need to test ram ?
[11:29] <spazz> my hdd is the problem (i think..what im trying to find out)
[11:30] <aliasfre1> well to run it will tell you if the ram is ok or not
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> no, test the OS, it'll tell you if you HDD is messed up
[11:30] <spazz> ...
[11:30] <spazz> ok. so what should i do?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i was being sarcastic
[11:31] <spazz> ........ going to try finding those system restore cds again heh
[11:31] <danl> am i out of luck if i want the source for those files?
[11:31] <aliasfre1> danl: which files ?
[11:32] <danl> specifically cat
[11:33] <aliasfre1> danl: you want the source of cat ?
[11:33] <aliasfre1> hmm this one is likely burried in some gnu package
[11:34] <danl> yes... ok... let go look for that oe
[11:34] <danl> *one
[11:34] <aliasfre1> spazz: then you play with 'badblocks' instruction it searches a device for bad blocks
[11:35] <aliasfre1> danl: if you want just 'a' cat and not specifically the one of kubuntu, you can get it from the gnu site
[11:35] <danl> well im trying to fix a problem on another machine i have
[11:35] <aliasfre1> danl: in fact i think the procedure could be, 1. find out the package containing /bin/cat with dpkg 2. use apt-get to get the soruce version of this package
[11:36] <danl> debians cat is all nice and friendly and stops: cat blah >> blah ... however freebsd doesn't
[11:36] <danl> i was going to compare the code, and see if I can frankenstein it
[11:36] <aliasfre1> hmm how cat can be nice and friendly ?
[11:37] <lupine_85> purrs when you stroke it?
[11:37] <aliasfre1> :)
[11:38] <lupine_85> cat is in package "coreutils"
[11:40] <danl> yea, i figured that out.... looking for the src for it now
[11:44] <alex_> olaa
[11:45] <er_alex> olaaa
[11:45] <spazz> crap
[11:45] <spazz> i cant remember how many restore cds i had
[11:45] <CVirus> crapola
[11:45] <er_alex> spain?
[11:45] <spazz> i only have 2. but i think i had 3.
[11:45] <spazz> cant remember.
[11:47] <aliasfre1> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <zblach_> bit of strangeness. my keyboard refuses to respond after logging in while using the 686 kernel. what'd I bork?
[11:47] <aliasfre1> er_alex: if you fell more confortable in spanish
[11:48] <alex___> olaa
[11:48] <aliasfre1> !es
[11:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:48] <aliasfre1> alex___: if you fell more confortable in spanish
[11:51] <aliasfre1> once again ? :)
[11:51] <zblach_> anyone know anything about klaptop performance profiles?
[11:51] <aliasfre1> i dont :)
[11:51] <aliasfre1> i dont even know what is 'klaptop' :)
[11:52] <zblach_> an honest answer! that's what i'm here for. :)
[11:52] <zblach_> none of this 'windows doesn't acknowledge non-proprietary software functionality'
[11:52] <zblach_> nonsense i get from their tech support
[11:59] <kinema> zblach_: have you check in #kde?
[11:59] <zblach_> kinema: i have not
[12:00] <kinema> Saturday night is a bit slow on IRC but #kde is worth a try.
[12:00] <kinema> Fortunatly Saturday night isn't as slow as Friday night.  :)
[12:00] <zblach_> sunday morning any good? it's no rush
[12:01] <kinema> I just wish my housemate and his girlfriend would quit screwing....
[12:02] <zblach_> hook up a video cam, sell movies, donate profits to KDE. that way, you help everyone
[12:02] <kinema> Interesting idea.  I'll have to look into cameras.
[12:03] <zblach_> bit of a bootstrapping issues. built in video cams are still buggy
[12:03] <kinema> One with IR sensitivity of course.
[12:03] <kinema> I was thinking of a network cam like an Axis camera.
[12:04] <pointwood> I just upgraded to kde 3.5.4. do anyone know why kopete and ksysguard is being kept back?
[12:04] <pointwood> this is on a new kubuntu dapper install
[12:05] <kinema> pointwood: have you tried "apt-get install kopete" and then "apt-get install ksysguard"?
[12:05] <pointwood> kinema: in adept, I tried requesting the update and then it says "break (upgrade)"
[12:05] <kinema> sometimes apt can't resolve dependancies
[12:06] <pointwood> ahhh
[12:07] <pointwood> 27. aug. 2006 11.27  Golf
[12:07] <pointwood> Golfspilleren Thomas Bjrn fortsatte de gode takter fra anden runde, da han natten til sndag igen gik en runde i 67 slag, 3 under banens par.
[12:07] <pointwood> Med fem birdies og to bogeys p tredje runde af den strkt besatte World Golf Championship-turnering sikrede Thomas Bjrn sig en delt 10. plads fr sidste runde p Firestone-banen i Ohio.
[12:07] <pointwood> I den samlede stilling er turneringens eneste dansker 4 slag under par, 5 slag efter den frende amerikaner Stewart Cink. Efter tredje runde overtog han frstepladsen fra landsmanden Tiger Woods, der dog kun er et enkelt slag efter.
[12:07] <pointwood> argh
[12:07] <pointwood> sorry
[12:07] <kinema> np
[12:07] <pointwood> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:07] <pointwood>   kopete: Depends: libjasper-runtime but it is not installable
[12:07] <pointwood> E: Broken packages
[12:07] <ninHer> hi all
[12:07] <kinema> are you running dapper?
[12:07] <pointwood> yes
[12:07] <pointwood> just installed kubuntu dapper 6.06.1
[12:08] <kinema> apt-get install libjasper-runtime
[12:08] <pointwood> added the kde 3.5.4 repo and did a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:09] <pointwood> maybe I need the multiverse repo...
[12:09] <kinema> try adding it
[12:10] <pointwood> hrm...what is universe and multiverse?
[12:11] <kinema> they are package repositories that are not officially supported by Canonical.
[12:11] <kinema> often times they are packages from the Debian repositories.
[12:11] <kinema> They are community supported.
[12:12] <pointwood> yeah, just wondering what they contains
[12:12] <kinema> piles and piles of software
[12:12] <pointwood> I know
[12:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> 811 vs 235... niiiice :)
[12:13] <kinema> ?
[12:13] <DeeTahPanLtah> anyone knows why in my repo's there isn't any gset-compiz even if i modified sources.list?
[12:14] <gan|y|med> hello
[12:14] <DeeTahPanLtah> hiya
[12:15] <pointwood> oh well, universe and multiverse added :)
[12:16] <pointwood> and fetches coffee :)
[12:16] <gan|y|med> can anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)
[12:21] <dhq> how do i upgrade k3b
[12:22] <w1w1t0m1> hello, how can I add language to kde? There is a button Add language but only 2 items in it ...is there way to add another language? thanks
[12:23] <gan|y|med> can anybody please tell me why kubuntu brings ksynaptics, which needs the synaptics driver 0.14.4, but installs version 0.14.3? (there is 0.14.4-1 available for xfree86)
[12:24] <pointwood> kinema: enabling universe and multiverse seems to do the trick :)
[12:24] <kinema> congrats
[12:24] <pointwood> :)
[12:25] <pointwood> now I just need to wait for it to download...
[12:25] <pointwood> stupid slow wimax connection :(
[12:25] <kinema> you're on a wimax network?
[12:25] <pointwood> yup
[12:25] <kinema> hmmm...
[12:25] <pointwood> <-- denmark
[12:26] <pointwood> clearwire
[12:26] <pointwood> launched in the major cities in dk
[12:26] <kinema> I wasn't aware that there were any draft standard networks depolyed
[12:26] <pointwood> it is only a temporary solution for me
[12:27] <pointwood> I should (finally, after having waited for many months!) soon have a fiber connection instead :)
[12:27] <kinema> very nice.
[12:27] <pointwood> 10/10Mbit :)
[12:28] <kinema> I find it staggering how far we lag behind here in the US.
[12:28] <pointwood> could get 25/25 as well, but I think I'll be able to live with 10/10 for now :p
[12:28] <gan|y|med> is there any updated (>= 0.14.1) package of the synaptics driver for dapper?
[12:28] <pointwood> gan|y|med: sorry, don't know :(
[12:29] <kinema> I'm also amazed at the stupidity of our "leaders"
[12:29] <kinema> no clue.
[12:29] <pointwood> you're not alone...
[12:29] <pointwood> we got clueless leaders here as well
[12:30] <kinema> but do yours go arround starting war after war?
[12:30] <pointwood> nope, but we are also a little country with <6 mill. people, so starting a war would be quite stupid :)
[12:30] <kinema> good point.
[12:31] <dhq> hey all .,how do i upgrade k3b
[12:31] <kinema> apt-get upgrade
[12:31] <pointwood> we did manage to get much of the muslim world very agry at us recently though :p
[12:31] <kinema> forgot about that little incident
[12:31] <zblach_> that was fun. i remember writing an essay on that
[12:32] <zblach_> took quite a bit of heat from that
[12:33] <zblach_> printed up the offending photo, and handed it out to people, just to show what the big deal was
[12:33] <gan|y|med> ok, is there a downgrade for ksynaptics? so that i can use 0.14.3 of the synaptics driver...?
[12:34] <pointwood> zblach_: hehe, nice
[12:34] <pointwood> many people, including bill clinton, misunderstood the issue...sadly
[12:34] <zblach_> pointwood: town break down as follows. 300k people. 1.6k  (inc. me jews) 60k ex-pat lebanese
[12:35] <dhq> the moment i start to burn a dvd in k3b   ,, the moment i burn either k3d crashes or inputoutput error
[12:35] <pointwood> what town is that?
[12:35] <zblach_> windsor. we're just outside detroit, cross the canadian boarder
[12:36] <pointwood> k
[12:40] <pointwood> well, the problem was that the pictures most of the arabic world got worked up over, wasn't pictures that the newspaper posted
[12:40] <zblach_> that, and people automatically assumed the worse
[12:41] <pointwood> it was a bunch of imams (correct term?) from denmark that travelled the arabic countries, showed - some of the pics they showed, were much much worse than the pics in the newspaper
[12:42] <zblach_> a single imam, from my research, and outrage only began months later
[12:42] <pointwood> it wasn't a single imam
[12:42] <pointwood> they were a group
[12:46] <malice> !supported
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supported - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <zblach_> right, i'm out. g'morning
[12:47] <malice> anyone else know fo another site that would give me a list of supported wireless cards? the one from kubuntu is down.
[12:47] <kinema> seattlewireless
[12:48] <pointwood> a funny sidenote is the recent crisis in lebanon - one of the imams actually got evacuated from there and came back home to denmark.  or something like that :)
[12:48] <malice> I am looking for a card for the laptop
[12:48] <lupine_85> it's not called "the sun", or "the daily mail", is it?
[12:48] <malice> right now the one I have does not work
[12:49] <lupine_85> wireless LAN? pci/usb/PCMCIA?
[12:49] <kinema> malice: http://www.seattlewireless.net/HardwareComparison
[12:49] <pointwood> lupine_85: no, but it is similar
[12:49] <Nekrosith> hi there
[12:49] <malice> pcmciat
[12:49] <Nekrosith> Hey, could anyone help me??
[12:49] <pointwood> lupine_85: I'm danish, it's the danish equivalent
[12:50] <kinema> Nekrosith: what do you need?
[12:50] <lupine_85> ah :)
[12:50] <Naosz> dont know if this is the correct place to debate the rights and wrongs of the danish newspapers offending the muslim world and getting more than they expected
[12:50] <lupine_85> course it is :)
[12:50] <Nekrosith> I want to install kubuntu, I've alreadyask for the discs, but
[12:50] <Nekrosith> I need to know if my laptop is compatible with kubuntu
[12:51] <Nekrosith> it's a packard bell easynote v7900
[12:51] <Nekrosith> centrino duo processor
[12:52] <malice> lupin_85 the site shows me cards but it only says linux I need to know if it is supported for Kumbuntu
[12:52] <malice> kubuntu even
[12:52] <lupine_85> should be fine
[12:53] <Naosz> kubuntu supports my brand new mobile... that was a surprise for me, talk about plug and play :o
[12:54] <malice> No, the one I have now has a orinoco chip set and it does not work I tried everything
[12:55] <malice> unless one of you know how to use kismet?
[12:55] <malice> I ran that after install and it showed my card and my signal
[12:55] <malice> but I did not know what to do after that
[12:56] <malice> I took it as kismet would link me up
[12:57] <malice> it just shows me the connections
[12:57] <octan> hi all
[12:57] <lupine_85> never used it, but I'd imagine you have to select one of the networks and press "connect"
[12:57] <lupine_85> ..or something
[12:57] <lupine_85> since you can see the networks, the card is working
[12:58] <octan> im woundering,, is ther a app that removes double lines from a file.. i mean clone lines.. etc is a file has text1 on several lines.. it should remove it so only 1 text1 is in the file
[12:59] <lupine_85> sed?
[12:59] <octan> awk :P
[01:00] <lupine_85> or you could write a quick parser, to run through each line and compare it with the preceeding one
[01:00] <malice> no, this is all out of konsole there is not an option to connect
[01:00] <lupine_85> easy to do with bash
[01:00] <lupine_85> malice: man iwconfig then?
[01:00] <octan> i was more thinking of a c|c++ app..
[01:00] <malice> its there
[01:00] <lupine_85> man kismet, even
[01:00] <lupine_85> octan: none that I could think of off-hand. It's a pretty trivial thing
[01:01] <lupine_85> if you want I can knock you one up in lazarus
[01:01] <lupine_85> but it'll have to wait 'cos I'm just off to the shop
[01:01] <octan> lupine_85, lazarus?
[01:02] <octan> lupine_85, whats lazarus?
[01:03] <lupine_85> Object Pascal IDE
[01:04] <lupine_85> http://lazarus.freepascal.org
[01:04] <lupine_85> bit like Delphi
[01:04] <Nekrosith> anyone knows about compatibility betwen kubuntu and a packard bell easynote v7900??
[01:04] <kinema> Nekrosith: not a clue.  try booting the live cd and see what happens.
[01:04] <Nekrosith> ok, thanks
[01:04] <octan> lupine_85, isnt pascal old :P i tought no one was writing stuff in it anymore..
[01:04] <lupine_85> pascal is about as old as c
[01:04] <Nekrosith> by the way, the new Kubuntu includes Xgl or not yet??
[01:05] <lupine_85> not as popular, but faster and just as flexible
[01:05] <lupine_85> Delphi was the best IDE available for windows
[01:05] <kinema> Nekrosith: no but hold on a sec...
[01:05] <Nekrosith> ok
[01:05] <lupine_85> and Borland's C++ compiler used a lot of Delphi code ;)
[01:05] <lupine_85> (it was faster)
[01:06] <octan> lupine_85, oki :) im just staring to learn c++
[01:06] <lupine_85> well, replace { and } with begin and end, and you're almost there
[01:06] <octan> hehe
[01:06] <lupine_85> the object-orientated framework also makes more sense
[01:06] <kinema> Nekrosith: take a look at http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000081
[01:06] <CVirus> ROFL
[01:06] <lupine_85> IMO
[01:07] <Nekrosith> ok, thanks
[01:07] <lupine_85> download the .rpm files, turn the packages into .debs (alien) and have a play
[01:07] <lupine_85> the major advantage is that GUIs are really, really, really easy
[01:08] <Nekrosith> Kinema, thanks, gtg
[01:08] <Nekrosith> Bye folks
[01:08] <kinema> lupine_85: in lazarus?
[01:09] <lupine_85> yes
[01:09] <kinema> i'll have to check it out sometime
[01:09] <lupine_85> even better, native win32, qt and gnome apps are just a recompile away
[01:10] <lupine_85> MacOS X as well
[01:10] <kinema> qt?
[01:11] <octan> lupine_85, you if you write stuff in that lazarus thers no need for porting if you need to run it on other platforms?
[01:11] <octan> just compli and run it?
[01:15] <kinema> I wonder why Lazarus hasn't gotten more press..
[01:19] <pointwood> what email client do people use? kmail? I've seem to recall it having issues in regards to imap, but maybe those issues are solved?
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> thundrebird, now and then sylpheed
[01:21] <phreakys> hi
[01:21] <pointwood> I use thunderbird as well, but was considering using kmail
[01:21] <dhq> need help to burn a dvd
[01:22] <phreakys> does anyone know how to remove the windowbar of xglx(compiz) before kde booted up? now i have to manually hide it every time. not a nice sight
[01:23] <lupine_85> octan: pretty much
[01:24] <lupine_85> there are some OS-specific units (h file equivs), but you can usually avoid them
[01:26] <dhq> i am having problems with k3b and gnomebaker to burn a dvd-r  inputoutput error
[01:26] <phreakys> hm, some weird message from glxgears :S
[01:26] <phreakys> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:27] <phreakys> i get this alot. anyone knows what the problem is?
[01:29] <lupine_85> have you got DRI loaded?
[01:30] <lupine_85> (e.g. LoadModule "dri" in xorg.conf)
[01:34] <baldi> configure: error: "Could not find gtk-config. gtk-dev must be installed." <-- i don't know how i get gtk-dev :/
[01:34] <phreakys> yes
[01:35] <phreakys> dri is being loaded. isn't that normal for ati?
[01:36] <spring_> hi, i have used vmware to run a server, and also run ftp server on kubuntu, now what's the command format used to connect to ftp server from my vmware???
[01:36] <spring_> i have tried many formats like 'ftp localhost' , ... no avail
[01:37] <spring_> i got connection refused when i try 'ftp localhost'
[01:37] <dhq> Hawkwind: plz help me with dvd-r burning
[01:38] <phreakys> doesnt vmware use a virtual network adapter?
[01:38] <phreakys> may be easier just to install kubuntu out of the box, without vmware :-0
[01:38] <phreakys> :_)
[01:38] <spring_> ohh so i got to find address of those adapter 1st, i assume
[01:39] <phreakys> maybe
[01:42] <phreakys> hm, something is wrong about my videosettings ;(
[01:42] <spring_> well i can connect to  ftp server on kubuntu using filezilla in vmware winxp with address like <IP_ADDRESS> but how do i do the same thing in console from another vmware knoppix server
[01:42] <spring_> ftp 192.... simply doesn't work
[01:43] <phreakys> dunno
[01:43] <spring_> doh
[01:44] <phreakys> seems like a complicated configuration
[01:53] <phreakys> so weird
[01:54] <phreakys> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". + direct rendering: no and i get 6000 fps in glxgears still
[01:54] <phreakys> (compiz xgl loaded)
[01:54] <lupine_85> 6K fps isn't all that much on glxgears
[01:55] <spring_> hi how do i create a ftp server name for kubuntu so i connect to that ftp server using the created name within vmware linux server in console???
[01:55] <phreakys> no ok, but i dont understand why it has still this fps and saying the drivers are down
[01:55] <phreakys> xgl is working fine
[01:55] <lupine_85> but is the dri module loaded?
[01:56] <phreakys> no ;(
[01:56] <phreakys> its in xorg.conf
[01:56] <phreakys> but somehow it doesnt load
[01:56] <lupine_85> error messages in log?
[01:56] <phreakys> i noticed glcore is not loaded
[01:56] <phreakys> ehm, where is the log located?
[01:56] <lupine_85>  /var/log
[01:56] <lupine_85> progrably Xorg.0.log
[01:57] <phreakys> ah yes
[01:58] <alex_> hi@all
[01:59] <spring_> just a silly question, did anyone try to  manage a server thru gui ftp, say browser?? since i am bad in vi or emac, i plan to manipulate server with no gui thru browser connected to it thru ftp
[02:00] <phreakys> alot of mumbojumbo in Xorg.0.log, but i cant see anything wrong
[02:00] <phreakys> spring, why dont you use a windows ftp server?
[02:01] <spring_> i am not going to use windows
[02:02] <phreakys> but why vmware then?
[02:02] <spring_> to run virtual server for project management, everyone pc in the LAN can access it
[02:03] <spring_> also don't need to buy another machine
[02:05] <rod> helloo ... my xorg server or config seems to have got screwed up, during a recent system update ... i can't get X to start, with any of nvidia, fbdev or vga drivers ... any idea's whta might have happened or how i can fix it
[02:05] <atidem> rod: it's a bug
[02:06] <atidem> search on launchpad.net
[02:06] <rod> atidem: a known bug ? ... thanks, i'll look it up
[02:21] <larson9999> what a day!
[02:22] <zolmo> tell me all about it
[02:25] <ThomasI> Hi, it seems to me that the KDE session restore does not start the programs with the same paramters they were originally started, any way to change this behavior?
[02:25] <Pizzak_> how I can remove a ban with konversation?
[02:26] <lupine_85> they're listed in settings
[02:26] <lupine_85> so delete from there
[02:26] <larson9999> i wake up, breathe in this wonder thing called air, and i can't help but think it's gonna be another great day.
[02:33] <kutan> Anyone awake?
[02:34] <kutan> 247 other people and not one person on. o_o
[02:34] <kutan> well... 246 cause of the bot..
[02:36] <kutan> Well when someone sees this message I'd love some help, I keep getting this reoccuring problem
[02:36] <rod> hi kutan ... i'm awake, trying to ressurect my old kubu install ... don;t spose you are an xorg guru ?
[02:36] <kutan> ..oh
[02:36] <kutan> xorg? no o_o
[02:37] <rod> gack ... i cannot get X to start and am hopless with just term's
[02:37] <larson9999> i'm awake but i'm just listening to numa numa
[02:37] <kutan> Well...
[02:37] <kutan> Whenever I try to install something...
[02:38] <kutan> ANYTHING by myself if I can't use the package manager
[02:38] <kutan> in console it'll tell me this
[02:38] <kutan> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:38] <kutan> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:38] <rod> do you have gcc installed ?
[02:39] <kutan> Hell if I know
[02:39] <larson9999> kutan what do you type to install something?
[02:39] <kutan> well in this case I'm using wineinstaller so I use uhhh
[02:39] <kutan> sh wineinstall
[02:40] <kutan> and of course the sudo prefix if I need it >_>
[02:40] <rod> sounds like the installer migth need a c compiler ?
[02:40] <kutan> Where can I find a c compiler... besides google...
[02:41] <kutan> I mean like is there one specific one that's top of the line that I should get?
[02:41] <rod> type gcc into adept search
[02:41] <kutan> k
[02:42] <kutan> It says it's installed
[02:42] <rod> ah ... try    gcc -v      ib the command line
[02:42] <kutan> k
[02:43] <kutan> wineinstall: file not recognized: File format not recognized
[02:44] <rod> what did you type ?
[02:44] <kutan> er.. "gcc -v wineinstall"?
[02:45] <rod> ah, leave out the wineinstall ... i was just cheking that gcc was installed ok
[02:45] <kutan> oh
[02:45] <kutan> yeah well I also tried without wineinstall, a whole bunch of text came up
[02:46] <rod> sounds about right ... i'm stumped
[02:47] <kutan> I also tried "Building the Wine Package from Source using APT"
[02:47] <slougi> what's wrong with the wine binaries?
[02:47] <kutan> It was fine when I created the package but when I typed in "dpkg -i wine*.deb" to install it... hold on
[02:48] <kutan> it said
[02:48] <kutan> Build command 'cd wine-0.9.20~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed.
[02:48] <kutan> E: Child process failed
[02:49] <slougi> kutan: have you tried the ./configure, make approach?
[02:50] <kutan> Yep
[02:50] <kutan> Fails all the time too
[02:50] <kutan> the ./configure doesn't work
[02:50] <slougi> kutan: it complains about the C compiler?
[02:50] <kutan> Hold on I'll try ./configure on something and get the log
[02:51] <larson9999> why are you installing wine that way anyway?  the newest version is in the repositories
[02:51] <larson9999> unless they just put out a new one
[02:51] <kutan> It doesn't show up in the repositories for me
[02:51] <larson9999> oh at least in one i have
[02:51] <kutan> even after adding the URLs
[02:51] <octan> update
[02:52] <larson9999> kutan lemme see what repo i added for that
[02:52] <slougi> kutan: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[02:52] <larson9999> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:52] <larson9999> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[02:53] <kutan> slougi I already tried everything on that list but failed all and larson I tried that one AND the the breezy
[02:53] <larson9999> kutan those seem to get the new version pretty quick.  the download slougi gave works, too.
[02:54] <larson9999> kutan you running breezy?
[02:54] <kutan> Don't think so
[02:54] <kutan> Also
[02:54] <kutan> I just typed in wine in the adept manager and it came up with winelib
[02:55] <kutan> er libwine
[02:55] <kutan> is that it? o_O
[02:55] <larson9999> kutan what happens when you try to install with those repos or the link from slougi?
[02:56] <rod> can i tell xserver to ignore my nvidia card somehow ... is that what fbdev is all about ?
[02:56] <rod> or vga ?
[02:56] <slougi> rod: no, fbdev just basically gives you a console with higher resolution and ability to display graphics
[02:57] <kutan> Hmmmm hold on larson
[02:57] <slougi> rod: why do you want to ignore the nvidia card?
[03:00] <lambengolmor> sorry, does anyone know how to make skippy work?
[03:01] <rod> slougi: i can't get X to start ... i think some package got updated without me paying attention, but when i re-booted a day or so ago, X refuses to start :(
[03:01] <rod> i talking now from another kubu install on a separate partition, but i'd *love* to get the other going again ... it's got oddles of updates + personal consfigs etc
[03:02] <Bizzeh> hey, how would i get a root console in kubuntu so i dont have to type sudo before every single line?
[03:02] <duncan_> Hi guys
[03:02] <kutan> larson9999 I tried all of the methods in the link from slougi but none of them work
[03:02] <xyus> how can I register my nickname
[03:02] <xyus> ?
[03:02] <slougi> rod: maybe you were bit by the xorg bug... just try a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and starting X again
[03:03] <larson9999> kutan 'none of them work' doesn't help.  what happens? error messages etc
[03:03] <rod> i don;t need h/w accelleration, just a gui desktop ... i also tried re-installing the nvidia packages + the linux-restricted-modules, but i can't see what's wrong :(
[03:03] <slougi> rod try updating the system, there was a major bug in a recent xorg update
[03:03] <slougi> xyus: register on freenode?
[03:04] <kutan> Hmmmm larson can you PM me so I can paste the errors without people getting angry? =\
[03:04] <rod> slougi: ah thank you ... i don't know apt-get at all being spoilt by adept ... i'll give it a shot :)
[03:04] <slougi> no worries ;)
[03:04] <slougi> kutan: just paste it here: http://pastebin.com/
[03:05] <kutan> ah okay hold on then
[03:05] <slougi> brb
[03:05] <rod> well, here goes ... back soon ;)
[03:05] <xyus> guys help me
[03:05] <xyus> xD
[03:07] <larson9999> slougi rod might not have security enabled, too.  that's a common issue now.
[03:08] <slougi> larson9999: ah, dammit. didn't even consider that
[03:08] <slougi> xyus: where do you want to register your nick?
[03:09] <larson9999> slougi i only thought of it because i forgot on 2 different installs
[03:10] <os2mac> Hi everyone
[03:10] <slougi> hullo
[03:11] <larson9999> i'll be danged, wine popped another one out.  i think there is a new version every 4 minutes
[03:11] <xyus> slougi
[03:11] <xyus> I just wann register it
[03:11] <kutan> http://pastebin.com/777154 Those are 2 of the different methods
[03:11] <xyus> so I can do DCC convers
[03:11] <slougi> xyus: /msg nickserv help
[03:12] <xyus> REGISTER
[03:13] <slougi> kutan: are you sure you added the repositories? try this command: grep wine /etc/apt/sources.list and see if it prints out the repos
[03:13] <larson9999> kutan: you must have put those in sources.list or not have done 'sudo apt-get update'  otherwise apt-get would give you a message saying wine is already at the newest version or it would install it.
[03:13] <xyus> yope
[03:14] <larson9999> kutan: you must NOT have put those in sources.list
[03:14] <phreakys> hm, how would i get access to all directories from konqueror?
[03:14] <slougi> xyus: you must msg nickserv the commands
[03:14] <xyus> yeah
[03:14] <phreakys> i mean, write access
[03:14] <xyus> I got it
[03:14] <xyus> xD
[03:14] <slougi> larson9999: huh? of course he has to add the wine repos
[03:15] <larson9999> slougi: i meant he must not have already added them or didn't do the update.  otherwise wine would either install or give a message saying it's ready at the newest version
[03:18] <kutan> larson9999 I have it in my sources.list
[03:18] <slougi> phreakys: not generally advisable, but you could for example run `kdesu konqueror`
[03:19] <slougi> kutan: did you run apt-get update ?
[03:19] <pascal> Suddenly now when I start dapper it just gives me an error message that it's not possible to mount the hardrive... It works fine with edgy that is installed on the same Hd
[03:19] <kutan> Yep
[03:19] <slougi> and it gave no errors?
[03:19] <pascal> Does anybody have any idea about what this is?
[03:19] <kutan> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[03:19] <kutan> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:19] <kutan> that's all the errors
[03:20] <slougi> ah, are you running a 64-bit system?
[03:20] <larson9999> lol
[03:20] <larson9999> dang
[03:20] <kutan> 32 I think?
[03:20] <larson9999> slougi got to ask that sooner
[03:20] <slougi> :P
[03:21] <slougi> kutan: what does uname -a print?
[03:21] <kutan> Linux kutan-desktop 2.6.15-26-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:21] <slougi> yup that's a 64-bit system
[03:21] <larson9999> oh boy
[03:22] <kutan> oh boy what? o_o;
[03:22] <slougi> I am not sure wine even works on 64-bit systems
[03:22] <slougi> last I looked into it there were lots of issues
[03:22] <larson9999> slougi: i don't think so but i maybe would have missed that since i don't run 64bit
[03:22] <kutan> ._. I guess 64 isn't common?
[03:23] <pascal> What can I do when it's not possible to mount the /root  and other things.. It seems like it cant find the harddrive after choosing dapper
[03:23] <larson9999> i did find a site that looks like it addresses all the things i'd need to give it a try but haven't yet
[03:23] <slougi> kutan: it is the future, I have a amd64 processor myself, but run 32-bit linux cause of little issues like with the flash plugin, etc.
[03:24] <kutan> wait... I can go 32 bit?
[03:24] <kutan> I thought I had to go 64 -_-
[03:24] <larson9999> kutan: yeah
[03:24] <Bizzeh> why care about flash?
[03:24] <Bizzeh> its crap anyway
[03:24] <kutan> time to reinstall kubuntu ._.
[03:24] <slougi> pascal: there's lots of stuff to check... first, you could check that the kernel is passed the right parameters by grub
[03:25] <slougi> Bizzeh: well, I happen to think it's a pretty essential plugin
[03:25] <kutan> It is...
[03:25] <pascal> thats in the menu.lst right?
[03:25] <Bizzeh> for viewing overbloated sites that have use more bandwidth than they need?
[03:26] <slougi> pascal: yup, you can also check on boot by selecting the dapper entry and pressing e
[03:26] <slougi> Bizzeh: amongst other things, yes
[03:26] <pascal> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:26] <Bizzeh> flash is one of the worst things to ever happen to the internet
[03:26] <kutan> Can I change to 32 bit without entirely reinstalling linux...? :(
[03:27] <larson9999> i use flash a lot.  ebay for instance
[03:27] <slougi> kutan: I am not certain :/
[03:27] <Bizzeh> no, to go from 64bit to 32bit, you need a full reinstall
[03:27] <Bizzeh> why would you use flash on ebay?
[03:27] <pascal> slougi doesn't that look pretty sane?
[03:28] <slougi> pascal: yes it does
[03:28] <larson9999> kutan you can run 32 bit apps in the 64 bit world but i haven't done it and i'd recommend you reinstall the 32bit for now
[03:28] <slougi> pascal: do you have the exact error message?
[03:28] <kutan> Alright I guess it's time to get to work on that
[03:29] <slougi> yeah a 32-bit chroot is possible but it generally doesn't work all that well
[03:29] <pascal> then I have to reboot.  just wait
[03:29] <kutan> I'll be back when it's done :D
[03:29] <kutan> See yas
[03:30] <slougi> have fun :)
[03:34] <alex_one> please help me how to install a "s3 savage4" videocard on kubuntu??????????????????? and how to use tv out??? have a celeron cpu 500mHz & 768mb ram
[03:35] <alex_one> hello?
[03:37] <slougi> hi
[03:37] <slougi> alex_one: what exactly is the problem?
[03:37] <alex_one> when i start a open gl screensaver my monitor is black
[03:38] <alex_one> & icant use the tv out
[03:38] <charlie5> slougi: :) ... :) ... :)
[03:39] <slougi> charlie5: hi again :p
[03:39] <slougi> alex_one: for tv-out the easiest way is to install a program called s3switch
[03:39] <charlie5> thanks, the apt-get update & upgrade fethced the new xorg core pkg and all is now well
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: you can then select to output for example to lcd and tv like so: s3switch lcd tv
[03:40] <alex_one> how "apt-get install s3switch" ?
[03:40] <slougi> charlie5: glad it worked :)
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: yes
[03:40] <charlie5> slougi: phew !!! me too ;) ... cheers
[03:40] <slougi> alex_one: as to opengl, can you paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
[03:41] <slougi> charlie5: no problem
[03:41] <pascal> back
[03:41] <slougi> pascal: so what did it say?
[03:42] <kenneth_> #linux.be
[03:42] <pascal> So the error message that I'm recieving is: "mount: mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: no such file or directory"
[03:42] <slougi> uh hold on, shouldn't it be mounting to / and not to /root ?
[03:42] <pascal> What I would like to try is to use the UUID instead of /dev/hda1 like in edgy
[03:42] <slougi> ah no, forget that
[03:43] <alex_one> what language c++?
[03:43] <slougi> alex_one: it doesn't really matter
[03:43] <pascal> but... I dont know how to find the UUID of hda1
[03:43] <pascal> Do you have any idea?
[03:43] <alex_one> http://rafb.net/paste/results/b20Otp56.html
[03:44] <slougi> pascal: well you could give a try, you could also try booting the edgy kernel into dapper and see if that works
[03:44] <slougi> give it a try*
[03:44] <slougi> pascal: nope, sorry
[03:44] <pascal> hmm. I'll try
[03:44] <kenneth_> does someone know how to run a pinnacle pctv card on kubuntu?
[03:45] <pascal> but first to google UUID ;-)
[03:45] <slougi> alex_one: hmm it's disabling direct rendering (ie 3d acceleration) for some reason, can you paste also /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:45] <slougi> pascal: good luck :)
[03:45] <alex_one> yes one min
[03:46] <larson9999> i just spent a day of heck trying to get a tv tuner working.  had problems in linux and windows.
[03:46] <kenneth_> i tried evry program from adept
[03:46] <zblach> hey, um, how can I automatically start xbindkeys on boot:
[03:46] <zblach> ?
[03:48] <alex_one> http://rafb.net/paste/results/D59jZk49.html
[03:49] <ubuntu_> hallo together w[nsche euche einen angehnemen sonntag und hierbei wieder mal eine schnelle frage wie mounte ich meine hd von der live cd kubuntu aus_
[03:50] <erov> nein
[03:51] <slougi> alex_one: try editing xorg.conf and adding one line: Load "dri" in Section "Module"
[03:51] <slougi> and starting X again
[03:52] <nicola> sorry I need help
[03:52] <nicola> I tried to install java
[03:52] <nicola> but when it asks for licence ageement
[03:52] <ubuntu_> wenn ich sie mittelsd gui mounten m;chte kommt diese fehlermeldung
[03:52] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:52] <ubuntu_> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[03:52] <nicola> I can't agree
[03:52] <Jucato> nicola: did you use Adept when trying to install Java?
[03:53] <Jucato> !de
[03:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:53] <nicola> Jucato: yes
[03:53] <slougi> ubuntu_: mount /dev/hdxy /foo sollte funktionieren? einfach x and y mit den richtigen variablen ersetzen, und ntrlich irgendwo mounten wo es sinn macht
[03:53] <kutan> I'm about to sound really stupid.
[03:53] <Jucato> nicola: ok, try this. Launch Konsole and type this in: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:53] <ubuntu_> ohhh thx mann i dident see it i just started the chat
[03:53] <alex_one> and where to additing it on the and befor endsection
[03:53] <alex_one> ??
[03:54] <slougi> alex_one: where all the other Load "something" lines are, the position in the list is not important
[03:54] <nicola> Jucato: it says an other program is performing installation so it can't do anything
[03:54] <alex_one> ok
[03:54] <Jucato> nicola: is Adept still open?
[03:55] <nicola> Jucato: no
[03:55] <Jucato> nicola: hmm.... ok try typing "sudo killall adept" first then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:55] <alex_one> i saved it
[03:55] <slougi> nicola: adept probably crashed in some way... kill the adept process first
[03:55] <alex_one> how to enable tv out
[03:55] <alex_one> ???
[03:56] <slougi> alex_one: with s3switch, like I said above
[03:56] <alex_one> i have installed it but cant choose it in the system preferences
[03:56] <nicola> Jucato: ok, now
[03:56] <nicola> Jucato: ?
[03:56] <slougi> it's a command line tool, you have to run it from a terminal
[03:57] <Jucato> nicola: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" it should continue where the installation stopped
[03:58] <nicola> Jucato:
[03:58] <nicola> nicola@Elros:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:58] <nicola> nicola@Elros:~$
[03:58] <nicola> Jucato: is it supposed to be ok?
[03:58] <alex_one> root@yo:~# s3switch; Devices attached:  CRT TV; Devices active:    CRT; Current TV format is NTSC-J
[03:58] <Jucato> nicola: hmm.. try installing Java again, this time in the command line: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin"
[03:59] <slougi> alex_one: good, now run "s3switch crt tv", you might need to lower the resolution to 800x600 or 640x480 for it to work properly, but you can do that afterwards
[03:59] <nicola> Jucato: ok thanks it seems be working now
[04:00] <alex_one> ok thank
[04:00] <slougi> no problem
[04:00] <alex_one> you have help me much
[04:00] <slougi> be warned though that there are issues with savage cards and video on the tv-out, I am actually currently looking through the code in an attempt to fix this
[04:12] <dusty_> Hey guys how can I change the default browser to Firefox from konqueror so that when I click links it goes straight to firefox?
[04:13] <lupine_85> control panel kde settings
[04:13] <dusty_> thankyou
[04:13] <Jucato> dusty_: in System Settings > KDE Components > Default Applications
[04:17] <matthewf> hi all
[04:18] <Jucato> hi
[04:19] <theprofessional> any help need
[04:20] <dinwath> hithere
[04:20] <matthewf> im impressed with kubuntu, its a little slow on the system i got it installed on (a VIA epia) but everything seems to be working now as it should after an hour of post install tweaking
[04:20] <dinwath> i've got a little problem with a wiFi USB dongle
[04:20] <dinwath> antone can help?
[04:21] <dinwath> *anyone
[04:21] <Jucato> matthewf:  good for you!
[04:21] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!
[04:21] <krizzer> when i mount a partition and i try to view it is says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "multi"., how do i view it
[04:22] <theprofessional> i have use wifi usb dongle but google will help
[04:22] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[04:22] <Hobbsee> wait, `cut that
[04:22] <Jucato> lol
[04:23] <Jucato> I don't want to be whatever it is that's borking your sound...
[04:23] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:23] <Hobbsee> it started randomly borking when i reinstaled a while ago
[04:23] <Hobbsee> iv'e never found out what the problem is
[04:23] <Jucato> whoa...
[04:24] <Jucato> and what would you mean by "borking"?
[04:24] <Hobbsee> changing pitch at random, scrambling the music
[04:24] <Jucato> oh
[04:24] <matthewf> i did an update in synaptic that downloaded new xorg core.. i take it that sort of thing is automagicly installed
[04:24] <theprofessional> what is this borking shit
[04:25] <Jucato> !language
[04:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> woo!  and now i've really killed it!
[04:25] <Jucato> rawr!! you didn't intend to kill it when you shot it? ehehe
[04:26] <dusty_> Hey guys I have a wierd problem with my sound in kubuntu.  Every time I try to play music and then a system sound is invoked, e.g. click and app or opening an app, whatever it plays over my music and makes it mess up (like repeats itself, sounds awfull) its kind of stopping me from using sound in KDE, are there any fixes for this?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i didnt intend to kill it *quite* like that
[04:26] <Jucato> haha
[04:26] <Hobbsee> HAH!
[04:26] <theprofessional> any one know about adsl+ top speed is
[04:26] <Hobbsee> dusty_: what are you using for your sound?  autodetect?  (in system settings)
[04:28] <dusty_> Not sure it worked out of the box..
[04:31] <longbean> dusty_: if you just want to stop system notification sounds from playing then it's just a matter of turning them off in the control panel
[04:31] <dusty_> well no, I want it to work correctly..
[04:32] <longbean> or is it "system settings" rather than "control panel" in the default kubuntu install?
[04:32] <dusty_> system settings..
[04:32] <dusty_> But I would rather it worked right.
[04:33] <longbean> there's a subsection called "skip prevention" in there which may or may not help you
[04:34] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:34] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[04:34] <soulrider> hi Jucato
[04:35] <ravenous> can konversation do fake trans/translucency?
[04:36] <lupine_85> don't think so
[04:36] <ravenous> k couldnt find it either just checking
[04:36] <lupine_85> there's a background image option...  Grazie!
[04:39] <lupine_85> reboot and select recovery mode
[04:39] <Kutan> Hey uhm, I just decided instead of reinstalling 32-bit linux over the 64, I'm gonna format my harddrive and completely get rid of windows too but I have a question
[04:39] <lupine_85> that "should" work
[04:39] <Hobbsee> lupine_85: i'm hoping not to have to do that...
[04:39] <lupine_85> ctrl+alt+f1
[04:39] <lupine_85> try logging in there
[04:40] <Kutan> Do I have to download a different version of kubuntu to switch to 32 bit?
[04:40] <lupine_85> you'd think they (the software developers) would use /var/lock instead...
[04:40] <Kutan> Because I downloaded the one for a 64-bit pc
[04:40] <fdoving> Kutan: yes.
[04:40] <lupine_85> Kutan: yes
[04:40] <lupine_85> snap
[04:40] <lupine_85> www.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <Hobbsee> lupine_85: how do you think i'm on irc :P
[04:40] <lupine_85> in that case, just recreate the /tmp directory
[04:41] <_bbeck> I compiled Kopete 0.12.2, and everything seemed to go alright, but before I run make install I just wanted to make certain it worked.  So I run ./kopete, and everything looks alright until I try to go online or configure it.  Then I get the error "KCrash: Application 'lt-kopete' crashing..." has anyone seen this error?  Thanks.
[04:41] <Hobbsee> yeah, did that
[04:41] <Hobbsee> _bbeck: why did you try to compile it?
[04:41] <lupine_85> make it look like this:- drwxrwxrwt  11 root root  4096 2006-08-27 15:30 tmp
[04:41] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: has packages for dapper, it's already in breezy
[04:41] <Kutan> Well I don't have a problem redownloading kubuntu :D Last time I got like 1.3 megs a second on my download
[04:41] <_bbeck> I'm running Brezzy, and the version is fairly old. (0.11.1 I think)
[04:41] <Hobbsee> _bbeck: er..well..breezy...yeah, well
[04:42] <lupine_85>  (sudo chmod -R 777 /tmp , I think)
[04:42] <lupine_85> the problem is likely that kdm can't create the files it needs to, because it's ?not running as root?
[04:43] <lupine_85> not sure about that last part, but it'll be something like that
[04:43] <berkes> does anyone know a trick for konqueror to let it start with another (clean) session?
[04:43] <ketsugi> KDE4 is unlikely to make it into Edgy, right?
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> ketsugi: yes, it will not.
[04:43] <lupine_85> mm, everything in /tmp is user
[04:43] <ketsugi> Thanks
[04:43] <Jucato> ketsugi: nope
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> ketsugi: there isn't even a solid release date for kde4 yet.
[04:43] <berkes> LeeJunFan: you mean that it cannot be done?
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> kde4 probably won't even be in Beta in 2 months when edgy is released.
[04:44] <Jucato> berkes: what do you mean by "clean session"?
[04:45] <Jucato> KDE 4 first tech preview, unusable except for developers, is scheduled to be released in October. same month that Edgy will be released. So it really won't make it
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> unless they push back edgy.. :) but even then. that would be a rush job.
[04:46] <berkes> Jucato: a session that has new cookies.
[04:46] <cucciola_azzurra> ciao
[04:46] <cucciola_azzurra> #ubuntu_ita
[04:47] <lupine_85> delete some cookies? Create a new user and run konq. as it?
[04:47] <cucciola_azzurra> #ubuntu-ita
[04:47] <aliasfred> !it
[04:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:47] <Jucato> berkes: you can delete some or all cookies. but all instances of Konqueror use the same cookies
[04:47] <aliasfred> cucciola_azzurra: no ita for all i know. more -it
[04:48] <Zamboulie> my keyboard wasn't detected
[04:48] <lupine_85> surely the cookies are stored in ./konqueror ?
[04:48] <Zamboulie> on some games it doesn't work
[04:49] <Jucato> he can manually delete cookies one by one or by group in Konqueror's Settings
[04:49] <isos> Hi Guys
[04:49] <isos> does any body know how to define the bluetooth of my laptop?
[04:49] <Zamboulie> my brother is tying to play runescape and he can't type for some reason
[04:49] <Zamboulie> is this a problem with rune or what
[04:49] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> isos,  i fired up the package manager and installed the various bluetooth packages.. then i think i manually edited the bluetooth pin file in /etc/SOMEWHERE :P
[04:50] <berkes> Jucato: okay. then what I want is not possible.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> isos,  then ran that kbluetooth program
[04:50] <Jucato> berkes: probably. I'm not totally sure, though.
[04:50] <isos> aha ... thanks but didn't get what can I do
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[04:50] <berkes> Jucato: what I try to achieve is to be both logged in /and/ not logged in on one desktop. I now use Firefox and Konq to achieve the same
[04:51] <Jucato> I'm not sure if each Konqueror profile have their own cookies, but I'm guessing they're using the same set of cookies
[04:52] <berkes> Jucato: afaiks profiles share sessions/cookies
[04:52] <isos> I am trying to define it from kmenu - > System settings and when I hit bluetooth it prompts this error:  DCOP error when calling services()
[04:54] <isos> Hello
[04:54] <isos> I can't find the kbluetooth program
[04:55] <Jucato> strange.. Amarok says it "Could not read Audio CD" but Kaffeine and KsCD can play it fine
[04:57] <Jucato> whoa! since when did Kubuntu not require right-clicking on the CD icon to eject?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> Jucato: for ages....
[04:58] <Jucato> scratch that, it only plays in Kaffeine...
[04:58] <Jucato> Hobbsee: really? I never noticed that... before it would never eject unless I right-click on it...
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: dodgy config setting or something then.  *shrug*
[04:59] <Jucato> lol
[05:00] <Jucato> I think it's the *shrug* that's causing the problem
[05:00] <glj12> anyone here good with sound issues
[05:00] <glj12> no one here has ever been able to resolve my completely awesome problem
[05:00] <Jucato> the topic of the hour seems to be aobut sounds...
[05:01] <glj12> ohrly
[05:01] <glj12> must be my lucky day
[05:01] <Hobbsee> glj12: crimsun is
[05:02] <glj12> sweet
[05:02] <glj12> so crimsun is a sound guru?
[05:03] <lupine_85>  Hobbsee: did you manage to get logged back in?
[05:03] <lupine_85> glj12: I can do simple stuff
[05:03] <lupine_85> what's broken?
[05:03] <glj12> my sound
[05:03] <glj12> :P
[05:03] <lupine_85> :p
[05:03] <glj12> system sound, etc
[05:03] <lupine_85> so no sound at all?
[05:03] <glj12> right
[05:03] <glj12> and it recognizes my driver with no errors
[05:03] <glj12> and my sound is turned all the way up
[05:03] <glj12> master and all
[05:03] <trappist> glj12: which driver would that be
[05:03] <lupine_85> using the alsamixer ?
[05:04] <glj12> and i know that the speakers do work, laptop is new, and played in windows
[05:04] <lupine_85> the arts control?
[05:04] <glj12> yes, alsa
[05:04] <glj12> um... via's driver? idk
[05:04] <lupine_85> is it a 5-channel sound card?
[05:04] <trappist> glj12: 'pcm' is an often-overlooked volume control.  turn that up?
[05:05] <glj12> its on a laptop, so i would asume any new laptop would have that
[05:05] <glj12> i tuened up everything i could find =/
[05:05] <glj12> arg, and now my icon is gone
[05:05] <glj12> :(
[05:05] <glj12> nvm
[05:06] <glj12> VIA 8237 is the sound
[05:06] <lupine_85> what I'd do, in order... first, the test system: disable arts, get xmms installled and using the ALSA plugin, and playing a .ogg (or something) over and over..
[05:06] <glj12> its onboard, obviously
[05:06] <lupine_85> they work in ubuntu. I've got one
[05:06] <glj12> whats arts
[05:06] <lupine_85> (using a c-media, but I've had it working on numerous linux systems)
[05:06] <glj12> and how do i disable it
[05:06] <lupine_85> artsd - lets your system play more than one sound at a time
[05:06] <lupine_85> System Settings->Sound
[05:07] <glj12> oh, alright
[05:07] <glj12> and then?
[05:07] <lupine_85> Untick "Enable the dound system"
[05:07] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee (didn't even notice you leave...)
[05:07] <glj12> ok
[05:07] <lupine_85> erm, sound
[05:07] <glj12> k, gettin there
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> Jucato: maybe because i didnt?
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> !ghost
[05:08] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:08] <Hobbsee_> oops
[05:08] <Jucato> oh...
[05:08] <glj12> lupine_85: i dont see where you untick that
[05:08] <Jucato> darn! I missed the "_" in your name ehehe
[05:08] <lupine_85> "Sound system" left icon; "General" tab; first item
[05:09] <glj12> rofl
[05:09] <lupine_85> right above "networked sound"
[05:09] <glj12> that was really bad on my part
[05:09] <glj12> sorry
[05:09] <glj12> >.<
[05:09] <glj12> anyway, i unticked that
[05:09] <glj12> then what did you say?
[05:10] <lupine_85> install xmms
[05:10] <lupine_85> it's ideal for testing purposes
[05:10] <glj12> k, rgr that
[05:10] <kristina> what to do
[05:10] <kristina> root@russia:~# apt-get upgrade
[05:10] <kristina> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[05:11] <kristina> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[05:11] <kristina> Sie mchten wahrscheinlich apt-get -f install aufrufen, um dies zu korrigieren.
[05:11] <kristina> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:
[05:11] <kristina>   vdrift: Hngt ab: libopenal0 ist aber nicht installiert
[05:11] <kristina>           Hngt ab: vdrift-data (= 2006-02-21-1ubuntu1) ist aber nicht installierbar
[05:11] <kristina> E: Nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten. Versuchen Sie, -f zu benutzen.
[05:11] <kristina> root@russia:~#
[05:11] <Jucato> kristina:  please use pastebin
[05:11] <lupine_85> in it's preferences setting, you want to make sure it's using the "ALSA" output plugin
[05:11] <Jucato> !pastebin
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:11] <glj12> lupine_85: ...downloading
[05:11] <kristina> sry
[05:11] <lupine_85>  kristina: #ubuntu-de ?
[05:11] <Jucato> !de
[05:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:12] <glj12> ok, i got it
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've totally messed up kde settings. how do i reset them,without removing all of ~/ files?
[05:12] <kristina> thanks
[05:12] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: which settings in particular?
[05:12] <lupine_85> ok, so make sure it's on ALSA and get a song playing over and over
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: no windows borders and kdialog crashes...
[05:12] <glj12> lupine_85: what does the play over and over do?
[05:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: or,atm it doesn't even crash,though there are no window borders
[05:13] <lupine_85> makes sure that there's always sound going to the soundcard
[05:13] <glj12> lupine_85: and does it have to be .ogg >.< ?
[05:13] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: for the window borders, try choosing a new window decoration
[05:13] <lupine_85> so that you can hear if it's working
[05:13] <glj12> ogg only?
[05:13] <lupine_85> ogg is better-supported. If you've got mp3 codcs in for certain, use one of those
[05:13] <glj12> ok, i'l use an mp3
[05:14] <glj12> lol
[05:14] <glj12> i didnt install anything
[05:14] <glj12> it auto-recognized em
[05:14] <glj12> ok, an mp3 is playing
[05:14] <glj12> no sound though
[05:14] <Jucato> lol
[05:15] <glj12> now what?
[05:15] <lupine_85> ok, start with the simple stuff ;)
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> errr
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> after installing xgl thingies
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> i've lost window borders in every particular user's settings
[05:15] <DeeTahPanLtah> how do i fix this?
[05:15] <lupine_85> open up alsamixer and make sure that all the volume controls are on max and unmuted; remember to scroll right for any extras; and toggle any other switches you come across
[05:16] <DeeTahPanLtah> i mean,borders,with _,square and X buttons...
[05:16] <glj12> lupine_85: k, did that
[05:16] <lupine_85> there are some really strange controls that I don't have a clue about, but control whether you get sound or not
[05:16] <Jucato> DeeTahPanLtah: so you're using XGL right now? I'm afraid I won't be much help in that area...
[05:16] <glj12>  turned em all up, and green light on all of em
[05:16] <kristina> nobody helps me
[05:17] <lupine_85> including things like IEC958 (if you have it?)
[05:17] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21798
[05:17] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: yeah,i did
[05:17] <glj12> let me check that
[05:17] <glj12> yeah, i have it
[05:17] <glj12> i turned it up ALL the way
[05:17] <lupine_85> next step is the wires :). Unplug and plug into every sound slot you've got; linux sometimes sends sound to the strangest places
[05:17] <glj12> lol, laptop
[05:18] <lupine_85> so just the one hole?
[05:18] <Jucato> kristina: is this German? did you try going to #ubuntu-de ?
[05:18] <glj12> 2 holes
[05:18] <Jucato> I mean #kubuntu-de ?
[05:18] <glj12> one for the mic, and one for the headphones
[05:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> Jucato: but ive turned glx module and still there is none ;<
[05:18] <lupine_85> eh, not likely to be much confusion there, then ;)
[05:18] <DeeTahPanLtah> turned off*
[05:18] <kristina> there helps nobody
[05:18] <lupine_85> is there any other sound hardware?
[05:18] <glj12> i have no idea where the speakers are, but you can hear sound if in windows
[05:18] <glj12> nopers
[05:18] <kristina> nobody writes something
[05:19] <Jucato> rawr...
[05:19] <lupine_85> ah, integrated speakers
[05:19] <glj12> yeah
[05:19] <Jucato> I hope somebody understands/speaks German here...
[05:19] <glj12> no idea where they are, but by golly, they are there, somewhere...
[05:19] <glj12> iche liebe mein hund!
[05:19] <trappist> Jucato: try #kubuntu-de
[05:19] <glj12> :P
[05:19] <lupine_85> fraid I don't
[05:19] <Jucato> trappist: not me. kristina...
[05:19] <grayghost> Is anyone familiar with KSql...... is available for kubuntu?
[05:19] <lupine_85> except for Rammstein lyrics, anyeay
[05:19] <glj12> join #german
[05:19] <glj12> lol
[05:20] <Jucato> rawr!! not me!!!!
[05:20] <glj12> so, integrated
[05:20] <ministry> kristina: what is the problem?
[05:20] <Jucato> kristina is looking for help... no one is answering her over at #kubuntu-de ...
[05:20] <glj12> um... VIA 8237, do you need me to look up anything?
[05:20] <lupine_85> it's fully supported by linux, so shouldn't need to
[05:20] <lupine_85> XMMS complains if the sound isn't getting to the driver
[05:21] <lupine_85> so it's somewhere between driver and speakers that you've got the problem
[05:21] <lupine_85> To me, that strongly suggests that the sound is being muted and/or redirected
[05:21] <glj12> hmmm
[05:21] <glj12> i wonder where
[05:23] <lupine_85> well, artsd is gone, so you're feeding directly to ALSA.
[05:23] <ru> Can anyone help me with broken packages:
[05:23] <ru> http://pastebin.ca/150962
[05:23] <lupine_85> so it's alsamixer backwards
[05:24] <ministry> ru: did you try apt-get -check ?
[05:24] <ru> no didnt know about it
[05:24] <ru> let me try thanks
[05:25] <kristina> i have problems with the dependences
[05:25] <ministry> "check" no "-check" ... sorry
[05:25] <ru> E: Opening configuration file heck - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[05:25] <ru> oh sos
[05:25] <ru> yeah
[05:25] <ministry> kristina: for which package?
[05:25] <ru> no errors there
[05:25] <ru> it works fine
[05:25] <matthewf> gah... whats a safe way of shutting down kubuntu from login screen without display ?
[05:25] <kristina> for all!
[05:26] <kristina> i cant install anything
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> matthewf,  try alt-ctrl-delete a few times
[05:26] <jasondotgnu> hello, is there a way to change the 'normal' font style seems more dark? eg. modify local.conf ?
[05:26] <ministry> kristina: strange,,, anyhoo... you could try to do that ru thing :) ap-get check
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> kristina,   try installing some stuff from the shell and perhaps tell us the error messages?
[05:26] <Jucato> matthewf: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then type "sudo shutdown -h now" to completely shutdown or "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart
[05:26] <trappist> matthewf: ctrl-alt-f1, log in at the console, and say sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:26] <ministry> *apt-get - damn keyboard
[05:27] <trappist> oh to shut down kubuntu
[05:27] <ru> I can install most things
[05:28] <ru> just not certain ones that depend on libcairo by the looks of things
[05:28] <kristina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21800
[05:28] <ministry> I've got the same problem with samba which depends on some other packages that are already installed but too new :) I've given up on that...
[05:28] <matthewf> none of that works
[05:28] <gan|y|med> hello
[05:29] <matthewf> and when i say i have no display i mean no video signal
[05:29] <gan|y|med> does anybody use the ati drivers in version 8.28?
[05:29] <glj12> sorry, back lupine_85
[05:29] <matthewf> or should i just use the power switch
[05:29] <ministry> kristina: I've seen the link before and I'm sure many others did as well, but I don't understand the language... I'm ok for localisation, but this makes things damn hard :)
[05:29] <Jucato> matthewf: oh sorry. hardware problem? Ctrl+Alt+Del might work
[05:30] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:31] <ministry> kristina: oh... wait... "apt-get check" is the actual command
[05:31] <ministry> and you might want to sudo that
[05:37] <GameOver69> hey guys.... i know i hav java installed and im sure i have the firefox plugin installed.. but everytime i go to a webpage that has java firefox crashes... what can i do to fix this?
[05:38] <ganymed_> does anybody use the proprietary ati drivers in version 8.28?
[05:38] <pointwood> !easyubuntu
[05:38] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:39] <azazel35> hello !some body speack french here?
[05:39] <glj12> no.
[05:39] <Jucato> !fr
[05:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:39] <azazel35> thanck
[05:40] <digits> is it possible to have multiverse for just one package?
[05:40] <dutch> any one have a sources.list for edgy ?
[05:40] <Jucato> dutch: people from #ubuntu+1 might have one.
[05:41] <Jucato> digits: what do you mean?
[05:41] <dutch> plus1, thanks
[05:42] <Hobbsee> dutch: if you need to ask, you probably shouldnt run edgy.
[05:42] <digits> dutch: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Repositories
[05:42] <dutch> Hobbsee,  it's a practice box...:)
[05:42] <digits> Jucato: well i'd like to have flash, but i don't want to be bothered to download the complete multiverse package list every time i apt-get update (but i will want to keep in the loops with flash)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> dutch: even so.  can you recover if the system wont let you log into a GUII?
[05:43] <Hobbsee> can you still get on the internet, and ask how to fix it if you get stuck?
[05:44] <digits> There should be a mandatory 1 week pure console time per year for all Linux users, just to keep the skills up ;)
[05:44] <Hobbsee> digits: hehe.
[05:44] <Jucato> digits: I'm not sure. the whole purpose of APT is to make sure that dependencies will be resolved. If you only enable multiverse for a specific package, APT might not be able to resolvetect dependencies...
[05:45] <Jucato> that was: "resolveetect"
[05:45] <Jucato> that was: "resolve/detect"
[05:45] <digits> Jucato: ok
[05:46] <digits> Remind me to never ever promise to set up a working production server in debian for a friend--unless I get paid... ;P
[05:46] <Jucato> digits: I think updating the multiverse package list is only takes a short time after the initial update. only the first update seems to take longer
[05:46] <digits> Jucato: ok
[05:46] <Jucato> ;)
[05:47] <digits> Disgusting distro Debian... i rephrase; disgustingly slow distro...
[05:47] <Jucato> sssshhhh
[05:48] <digits> hehe
[05:48] <Jucato> hehe
[05:49] <gan|y|med> hello again
[05:50] <digits> hi there
[05:51] <digits> Hobbsee: i hate mine too... luckily my domain doesn't work for the weekend... (i need to propagate it but i can't get into the dns until monday) :D
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> digits: it's not really that much of a problem - most is bugmail
[05:51] <gan|y|med> my xv support for the fglrx driver broke when i upgraded to version 8.28. the config dialogue for dual head also disappeared. downgrading to 8.25 still produces the same problem. everytime i try to play a video with the xvideo plugin the x server crashes
[05:51] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[05:52] <digits> Hobbsee: ok, my spamassassin have alot to do in mine :)
[05:52] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:53] <cavalleto> Un novato busca ayuda
[05:53] <cavalleto> no me funciona el comando gedit
[05:53] <Jucato> !es
[05:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:53] <cavalleto> me aparece como command not found
[05:53] <Jucato> cavalleto: try "kate" instead of "gedit"
[05:57] <gan|y|med> xvideo extension does not work with fglrx module. any ideas?
[06:00] <visik7> gan|y|med: blame ati
[06:01] <dutch> Hobbsee, yeah, I made a backup copy of 6.06
[06:02] <matthewf> is nvidia still king of linux driver support btw ?
[06:02] <Mr_Flibble> yep
[06:02] <gan|y|med> visik7: why should i blame sb.?
[06:02] <matthewf> prior to installing ubuntu yesterday my last contact with linux was a year ago you see
[06:03] <gan|y|med> visik7: i would like to solve the problem (in fact, it used to be non-present)
[06:03] <visik7> matthewf: at least until intel will release a semi-opensource driver for the next video cards
[06:04] <Jucato> does Intel make non-IGP video cards (3D hardware acceleration and non-shared memory)?
[06:05] <tsdgeos> not since i710 or so i think
[06:06] <Jucato> oh... to bad... :-(
[06:08] <killalby> ciao raga
[06:08] <killalby> un aiuto?
[06:09] <killalby> prob con adept
[06:09] <A|i3N> hey how do I install/run a .sh file? I downloaded a trial version of star office 8
[06:09] <Jucato> !it
[06:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:09] <killalby> ok
[06:09] <killalby> grazie
[06:09] <j2daosh> whats up people
[06:09] <j2daosh> got a question, who in here uses kubuntu with samba?
[06:10] <j2daosh> and has windows xp computer on thier home network
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> all the time j2
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:12] <j2daosh> anyone alive here?
[06:12] <j2daosh> ok
[06:12] <A|i3N> Can anybody tell me how to run/install a .sh file???
[06:12] <Jucato> hehehe
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.sh
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> that is SUCH a faq... :P
[06:12] <A|i3N> lol.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> and its chmod +x whatever.run    ./whatever.run
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: never knew we had one.. ^_^
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> its a Linux in general Faq. :P
[06:12] <Jucato> hehehe
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> got to be one of the top 10 things asked
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> and dont forget its     ./somecommand   not just  'somecommand' :P
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> if its in the current dir...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> and yes theres a REASOn the current directory is not in the path. :)
[06:13] <j2daosh> i got a computer upstairs that i need to get into. i dont have a password for the user thought. (i didn't set a password for it). samba doesn't like that though. how do i make samba not care about blank passwords?
[06:13] <Jucato> lol
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  easier to set a password for the user. so you can access their home shares
[06:14] <Dr_Willis>  sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> also you may want to edit the samba config file to enable writeable home shares
[06:14] <j2daosh> that will let me get into my hom folder?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> yes.  :P
[06:14] <A|i3N> lol...... thank you Dr_Willis.. you da man
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> I need to track down a free web site to jot all these down.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> and yes.. ive learned samba and grub and other things over a LONG period of time
[06:15] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: so what are the remaining 8 FAQ's? I can guess MP3 support is one of them...
[06:15] <j2daosh> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user administrator. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[06:15] <j2daosh> Failed to modify password entry for user administrator
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  thats too trivial to be a faq. :P
[06:15] <j2daosh> that is what i get for it
[06:15] <Jucato> I wish I had another box to use samba on...
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  Huh?  what command are you using?
[06:15] <A|i3N> wow, it's installing. Awesome;) hehe
[06:16] <j2daosh> the one u just gave me
[06:16] <Dr_Willis>  sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME
[06:16] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: ehehe. but still, it's a FAQ, in the literal definition of the acronym
[06:16] <j2daosh> sudo smbpasswd -a administrator
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> you did put in your USERS name - and not 'username' ?
[06:16] <A|i3N> Error: RPM staroffice-core01 install failed}.
[06:16] <A|i3N> Install complete. Package: staroffice-core01
[06:16] <A|i3N> oh that's just lovely
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> and not root. :P
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> you made a user named administrator? egads....
[06:17] <j2daosh> wait... are we doing smbpasswd for my user account downstairs?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> or wait - you are trying to make a smbpasswrd for the XP user?
[06:17] <j2daosh> xp user
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> You set up the LINUX user with a samba password
[06:17] <j2daosh> do it for my account then?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> nothing at all to do with xp or whoever is on the xp machines
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> adduser bgates
[06:18] <j2daosh> so i need to make my username have a blank passwd?
[06:18] <A|i3N> does... staroffice require anything special on my system to install? like java?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> smbpasswd -a bgates
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I also tend to use the same user names on my xp and linux box's just makes it easier. :P
[06:18] <j2daosh> ok... i have the admin account on the xp computer... i need to get into that account from my linux. how do i do this?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,   login as admin i guess under xp and set up some shares. If thats even allowed.
[06:19] <j2daosh> i need to add an "administrator" username for smb, and then i do the smbpasswd -a administrator and use a blank passwrd?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  you are going backwards.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> to get XP to connect to the Linux home shares - you set up the smbpasswd for the users.
[06:19] <j2daosh> no i want to go from linux to xp
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> to get Linux to connect to the XP shares.. you can mount them. or use a samba browser tool like smb4k
[06:20] <j2daosh> i hate winblows
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> smb4k is good. :P
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> but its not installed by default
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> xp should let you make  'open' shares.. but thats not a good idea.
[06:20] <j2daosh> i can get to the shares... the only problem is i cant get into my home directories and all that because it is asking for a password for administrator... but the admin account doesn't have a password s it fails me out of the computer
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> the admin account on your XP box dosent have a password?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:22] <lupine_85> question - I've got a brand-new Technikaka (Tesco) keyboard, with all manner of weird 'multimedia' keys. How do I map them to actions? (I've found Regional & accessibility settings, but the buttons don't 'do' anything in the boxes there). I assume it's a keymap thing?
[06:22] <j2daosh> nope :)
[06:23] <j2daosh> ok you got me... i lied... its not my box... its the mother in laws... but she wants her shit backed up
[06:23] <j2daosh> so lucky me... i get to be the guy to do it...
[06:23] <j2daosh> lol
[06:23] <j2daosh> mother-in-laws
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> id go put a password on the admin account.. or go to IT and  connect upstairs and backup stuff to some home dir you make just for her.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> or fire up smb4k and see.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> its possible that XP wont let you get to the admin stuff in any case.
[06:24] <j2daosh> smb4k huh...
[06:24] <j2daosh> i can on the other computers (but they all have passwords on them)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> the idea that the admin account can have no password is just soooooo.. such a "MS way of thinking"
[06:24] <lupine_85> Zip it all up and upload it to a linux boz using psftp.exe ?
[06:24] <j2daosh> lupine thats too much work
[06:24] <lupine_85> :p
[06:25] <j2daosh> :P im lazy
[06:25] <j2daosh> if it was the wife or a friend it would be different... its the mother-in-law though to im using minimal effort
[06:25] <j2daosh> :)
[06:25] <lupine_85> anything involving win is too much work for me
[06:25] <j2daosh> lol
[06:25] <lupine_85> don't mind my mother-in-law to be, though
[06:25] <j2daosh> oh hell yes :)
[06:25] <lupine_85> 8)
[06:26] <j2daosh> i just found out how to hide accounts on xp lol
[06:26] <j2daosh> im gonna hide her account :P
[06:26] <j2daosh> im such an ass lol
[06:27] <Nerevar> is there any way in kubuntu to tell where it put grub
[06:27] <Nerevar> because it obviously didnt put it in the right place
[06:27] <lupine_85> check the menu.lst file? should be in there, I'd imagine
[06:28] <Nerevar> ok, and once i deterime where it is, how do i put it in the right place
[06:28] <Nerevar> my machine still boots into windows, no grub appears
[06:28] <lupine_85> grub-install <partition>
[06:28] <Nerevar> so i would do grub-install *windowspartitionthatibooton* ?
[06:29] <Nerevar> why didnt the install process put it in the right place?
[06:30] <mister_unknown> what did you install first, wind*ws or linux?
[06:30] <Nerevar> wind*ws
[06:30] <steveire> windows
[06:30] <Nerevar> but originally i had installed linux first and the hard drive bgan to fail
[06:30] <Nerevar> so i mirrored the drive to a new one, and grub was lost
[06:31] <mister_unknown> if grub was in the master boot record, it was not mirrored, only the contents of the partitions
[06:31] <Nerevar> yeah
[06:31] <mister_unknown> you have to reinstall grub in the mbr to make it work agian
[06:31] <Nerevar> that's exactly what happened
[06:31] <Nerevar> how can i do that
[06:31] <mister_unknown> grub-install, as someone said earlier
[06:31] <Nerevar> just type grub-install and it should work?
[06:31] <mister_unknown> "sudo grub-install DEV" where DEV is the harddisk device you use, typically /dev/hda
[06:31] <Nerevar> er
[06:32] <j2daosh> ok how do i make giu progz run as root in kubuntu?
[06:32] <Nerevar> the device i use to boot right?
[06:32] <mister_unknown> kdesu
[06:32] <mister_unknown> yes, the device name of the harddisk, not the single partition on it
[06:32] <j2daosh> Xlib: connection to "unix:1001.0" refused by server
[06:32] <Nerevar> ok
[06:32] <lupine_85> (if you've got a root password set, you can also use the "Run Command..." menu item)
[06:32] <j2daosh> that is what i get when i try doing graphical stuff as root
[06:33] <lupine_85> when you use sudo?
[06:33] <lupine_85> (generally I get that under su)
[06:33] <lupine_85> annoying environment variables thing, IIRC
[06:33] <lupine_85> chrooted environments, too
[06:34] <j2daosh> anytime i do su, sudo, kdesu
[06:34] <j2daosh> all of those
[06:34] <lupine_85> use the "Run Command" menu item. Try kdesu <program>
[06:35] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, set a root password and select the "run as different user" option; root and password
[06:35] <lupine_85> (but kdesu should work)
[06:37] <j2daosh> i need to put root and password in the box?
[06:37] <j2daosh> what is the format?
[06:37] <j2daosh> root passwd? root:passwd? root-passwd?
[06:38] <lupine_85> Options >>
[06:38] <lupine_85> and it all becomes clear :)
[06:39] <pippero> hi, i'm italian and i've never used before kubuntu, only freebsd, a little. i don't find "make"! Why?
[06:39] <lupine_85> the "run with a different priority" setting is also handy for things like (e.g.) k3b, amarok, etc
[06:39] <lupine_85> pippero: install it first. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:39] <pippero> ok thanks
[06:40] <lupine_85> (that will grab binutils and gcc for you as well)
[06:40] <andre_> does anyone have amsn running on ubuntu with tcl/t/k 8.5?
[06:41] <pippero> lupine_85: well, kubuntu says that i haven't build-essential
[06:41] <lupine_85> !build-essential
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:41] <j2daosh> what the hell man
[06:42] <j2daosh> smb4k doesn't work half as well as konquer
[06:42] <lupine_85> konqueror is a hard target to measure up to ;)
[06:42] <j2daosh> konquer will actually let me get into the computer, smb4k just mounts and wont let me in it
[06:42] <azazel35_> how can i go to kubuntu.fr !!!please !
[06:42] <Jucato> !fr
[06:42] <lupine_85> bet it works better than windows explorer though
[06:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:42] <j2daosh> u do /join #kubuntu.fr
[06:42] <Jucato> actually, it's #kubuntu-fr
[06:43] <azazel35_> merci !
[06:43] <pippero> lupine_85: it's the same
[06:43] <j2daosh> yeah that one
[06:43] <Rejistania> Hi
[06:43] <Rejistania> I somehow FUBARed my repository list
[06:43] <j2daosh> ok
[06:44] <j2daosh> how am i supposed to browse shares with smb4k
[06:44] <j2daosh> ?
[06:44] <Rejistania> Can someone please re-send me it?
[06:44] <lupine_85> pipppero: it should be there. Ok, try installing make itself -- "sudo apt-get install make"
[06:44] <lupine_85> or search for it in adept and install from there if you prefer
[06:45] <Rejistania> I can not run updates atm and fear my system has become vulnerable as *squeak*
[06:45] <lupine_85> Rejistania: kubuntu dapper?
[06:46] <Rejistania> yes
[06:46] <lupine_85> 1 second
[06:47] <Rejistania> oops, it calls itself Breezy Badger
[06:47] <Rejistania> sry
[06:47] <dusty_> Hey guys whenever I install something via apt-get install.... i get the following message before it is installed: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gEUBKC97.html was wondering if there is anything I can do to get rid of that message?
[06:48] <lupine_85> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21811 change dapper to breezy
[06:48] <Jucato> I seem to have a problem in Konqueror. It does remember passwords (through the KDE Wallet Manager), but it doesn't automatically log me into pages like Yahoo mail, Gmail, etc. All it does is to fill in the username and password at the login pages, and I still have to click on Login. Is this a normal Konqueror behavior?
[06:48] <Jucato> dusty_: what's the exact command you are using?
[06:49] <Rejistania> ty
[06:51] <j2daosh> what exactly is smb4k supposed to do?
[06:51] <j2daosh> what is the command to restart samba
[06:51] <j2daosh> ?
[06:52] <atidem> j2daosh: '$ sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[06:54] <j2daosh> ok my smb is timing out... why would it time out on a ntwork machine?
[06:54] <phreakys> aaah
[06:54] <phreakys> finally
[06:54] <phreakys> sudo chown
[06:54] <phreakys> found it :D
[06:54] <pointwood> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:54] <pointwood>   sun-java5-plugin: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable
[06:54] <pointwood> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:55] <pointwood> hrmpf
[06:55] <pointwood> why do I get that error?
[06:55] <pointwood> or rather, how do I fix it? :)
[06:55] <Rejistania> lupine_85: seems to work
[06:55] <phreakys> you could try to remove the whole package?
[06:55] <phreakys> sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin
[06:56] <phreakys> i got the same error while installing compiz. in the end the cause was a broken package somewhere
[06:56] <phreakys> deleted the broken package and tried again. worked
[06:56] <j2daosh> how do i samba through commandline?
[06:57] <j2daosh> smb://hostcomp?
[06:57] <octan> smbmount?
[06:57] <j2daosh> ahh... never thought of that lol
[06:57] <nonickname> how do i start the tftpd-hpa server?
[06:58] <nonickname> i already set it as enabled in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa, but the network boot from a different comp doesnt see it
[06:58] <nonickname> or something..
[06:59] <dusty_> Jucato, apt-get install <programname>
[06:59] <pointwood> I ran apt-get -f install
[06:59] <pointwood> that removed the plugin
[06:59] <whizz-> can i export the list of packages i have installed to a file?
[06:59] <Nerevar> well, i booted from the live cd, and i tried grub-install sda
[06:59] <Jucato> dusty_: are you trying to run it while logged in as root (there's a "#" in the command line)? if yes, try using "sudo" instead, while in a normal user prompt
[07:00] <pointwood> now I get:
[07:00] <Nerevar> and it said permission denied
[07:00] <pointwood> Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:00] <pointwood> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:00] <pointwood> is only available from another source
[07:00] <pointwood> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[07:00] <Nerevar> i tried from Konsole, and  i tried from run command
[07:00] <Jucato> pointwood: is the multiverse component of the repositories enabled?
[07:01] <dusty_> Jucato, ok
[07:01] <pointwood> Jucato: yes they are
[07:01] <pointwood> deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:01] <pointwood> deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:01] <pointwood> I got that in my sources.list
[07:02] <Jucato> pointwood: not "dapper-backports"
[07:02] <dusty_> Jucato, that works :)
[07:02] <pointwood> hrm
[07:02] <dusty_> err no it didnt
[07:02] <Nerevar> any idea? Maybe i should install again?
[07:02] <Jucato> Nerevar: you could try searching for a solution in the forums about restoring grub
[07:02] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:03] <dusty_> Jucato, http://rafb.net/paste/results/cdlS6H39.html <-- look at what I get now :|
[07:03] <pointwood> ahhh
[07:03] <Jucato> pointwood: look for the line with "deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe" and add "multiverse" to it.
[07:03] <Jucato> pointwood: note the plain "dapper", not "dapper-backports"
[07:04] <Jucato> dusty_: it's done. bitchx was installed
[07:04] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:04] <pointwood> Jucato: yeah, thx
[07:04] <Jucato> those error messages are probably from xorg.conf having settings for wacom when you don't have one
[07:04] <Ash-Fox> !de > slow-motion
[07:05] <slow-motion> hi Ash-Fox
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Hello slow-motion.
[07:05] <pointwood> like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:05] <Jucato> pointwood: yes.
[07:06] <Jucato> pointwood: then "sudo apt-get update" and then try installing the plugin again
[07:06] <pointwood> yup
[07:06] <pointwood> doing that now
[07:06] <pointwood> taking time - I'm on a slow wimax connection :(
[07:07] <Jucato> it will probably be worth the wait ./l
[07:08] <Nerevar> ok so i use this super grub boot disk i guess
[07:08] <Jucato> Nerevar: I think you can reinstall GRUB with using just a live CD
[07:09] <whizz-> i'm planning to create a multiboot lin/win environment: linux already is on hda1, can i get win (98) to install to hda2 (and running) ?
[07:09] <Jucato> but the instructions on the forums might be a bit more accurate
[07:09] <Nerevar> ok jucato i am sorry i can't pm you so i will just talk here
[07:10] <Nerevar> jucato - i tried the following in kubuntu - grub-install sda   and it said permission denied
[07:10] <Jucato> did you try doing "sudo grub-install sda"?
[07:10] <Nerevar> no
[07:10] <Nerevar> ill reboot and try
[07:10] <Jucato> wait...
[07:10] <Nerevar> ok
[07:10] <Jucato> oh ok
[07:10] <dusty_> Jucato, I know that.. but what are all those errors...?
[07:11] <Jucato> dusty_: I think it's about xorg.conf having references to wacom settings, when you don't have a wacom tablet
[07:11] <Jucato> fairly harmless, as far as I know
[07:11] <dusty_> Jucato, ok but shall i grep xorg.conf for wacom and delete the lines?
[07:12] <Hawkwind> dusty_: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:12] <Jucato> dusty_: why not just comment them out (put "#" at the beginning). Although if it's not causing any problems, I wouldn't touch it
[07:12] <Hawkwind> dusty_: Read that how-to on my forums
[07:12] <Jucato> oh there!
[07:12] <dusty_> thanks
[07:12] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I just have a short suggestion about that
[07:13] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Suggest away
[07:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: would it be possible you could first show which lines they have to comment/disable, then show them what it would look like afterwards?
[07:13] <Jucato> something like what it looks like before and after?
[07:13] <D4rkly> anyone seen the Xgl video with glmartix very nice effect http://osvids.com/vids/0010/vid_0010.html
[07:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[07:14] <Jucato> howdy!
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yeah I'll do that here in a minute
[07:15] <BluesKaj> so what's the fun today ?
[07:15] <phreakys> hi
[07:15] <red> what is the default password for the kde wallet, everything i type in doesnt work
[07:16] <pointwood> hrm
[07:16] <phreakys> wonder if its possible to setup keys within kde (like super-d would be all windows minimize)
[07:16] <Jucato> red: first time kdewallet is launched, it will ask you to create a password
[07:16] <Jucato> phreakys: Ctrl+Alt+D
[07:16] <red> ok
[07:16] <pointwood> it seems to want to install now, but I get this error when doing apt-get install...:
[07:16] <phreakys> ah nice
[07:16] <pointwood> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:16] <pointwood>   Major opcode:  145
[07:16] <pointwood>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:16] <pointwood>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:16] <pointwood> Failed to open device
[07:16] <phreakys> tnx jucato
[07:17] <Jucato> pointwood: try using !pastebin for pasting
[07:17] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:17] <otaku-san> pointwood: don't paste in the channel
[07:17] <phreakys> also possible to setup?
[07:17] <phreakys> !keys
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Jucato> phreakys: yep
[07:17] <phreakys> cant find the keyboardsettings, like gnome had
[07:17] <Jucato> phreakys: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:17] <red> how do i launch the kde wallet
[07:17] <phreakys> great :D
[07:17] <pointwood> sorry, I will use pastebin from now on
[07:18] <red> i only get this when i launch the mail or gaim
[07:18] <phreakys> man, im glad im on kde again now
[07:18] <Jucato> red: to launch it manually: press Alt+F2 and type in: kwalletmanager
[07:18] <red> thanks
[07:18] <phreakys> i dont like gnome at all
[07:18] <Jucato> pointwood: does the program still launch, regardless of the error?
[07:18] <pointwood> it launches and then errors out
[07:19] <Jucato> phreakys: the Keyboard Shortcuts are for general desktop shortcuts and for launching apps that are in K Menu already
[07:19] <BluesKaj> anyone here try medialinux live cd ?
[07:20] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?
[07:20] <Jucato> phreakys: Input Actions are for making shortcuts or gestures for other things not found in Keyboard Shortcuts, usually for actions/commands you have made yourself or for programs you want to launch but don't want to add to K Menu
[07:21] <phreakys> i see. nice kde feature
[07:21] <phreakys> tnx
[07:21] <Jucato> ehehe!
[07:21] <Jucato> beats gconf-editor any day
[07:21] <alex_> how to save and to close when i start "sudo vi /etc/fstab"
[07:22] <Jucato> ooh.. calling vi experts... ^_^
[07:23] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss tests might fail for me on cedega?
[07:23] <alex_> *|*
[07:23] <alex_> +
[07:23] <alex_> help me
[07:23] <Jucato> alex_: I think ":save" will save
[07:24] <Jucato> alex_: and ":q" will quit
[07:24] <pointwood> ahh...found someone else that had the same error in the forum - seems I have the same problem - some wacom devices have been added to xorg.conf for some reason - wierd
[07:24] <pointwood> reboot...
[07:24] <Jucato> pointwood: holdon
[07:24] <BluesKaj> alex, just ask
[07:25] <Jucato> alex_: next time, might I suggest using Kate instead, or something easier to use like nano?
[07:25] <nonickname> is anyone familiar with netbooting?
[07:26] <trappist> alex_: hit escape, then either ZZ or :wq<enter>
[07:26] <alex_> there read only
[07:27] <alex_> i cant save fstab
[07:27] <alex_> how to change it
[07:27] <trappist> alex_: as root, you should be able to.
[07:27] <trappist> if you're in vim and you still can't, do :w!
[07:27] <trappist> (after hitting esc)
[07:27] <Jucato> alex_: "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" or "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[07:28] <Jucato> alex_: or right-click on fstab in Konqueror and select Actions > Edit as Root.
[07:28] <Jucato> take your pick...
[07:28] <trappist> I like 'sudo wine winword.exe /etc/fstab'
[07:28] <Jucato> lol
[07:28] <larson9999> xe is the best
[07:28] <ismael> alguien habla espaol
[07:28] <trappist> ismael: #kubuntu-es
[07:28] <Jucato> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <ismael> gracias
[07:29] <adz21c> anyone have any idea why the alsa and oss might tests fail for me on cedega?
[07:29] <BluesKaj> es!
[07:29] <BluesKaj> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <BluesKaj> right
[07:30] <BluesKaj> :)
[07:30] <larson9999> i think i'll try to ge xe into a distro.  i don't think there are any other similar editors included
[07:31] <trappist> real men just use cat and ctrl-d
[07:37] <klerfayt> how to check device id?
[07:38] <trappist> klerfayt: what kind of device
[07:38] <klerfayt> more specifically graphics card id
[07:38] <Jucato> KInfoCenter?
[07:38] <klerfayt> I tried
[07:38] <klerfayt> it show id's
[07:38] <klerfayt> *doesn't
[07:39] <trappist> klerfayt: lspci -v
[07:39] <Jucato> would "lspci | grep -i vga" work ??
[07:41] <cerda> is there a way to mix subtitles of movies?
[07:41] <cerda> into a single fie?
[07:41] <cerda> file?
[07:41] <Jucato> isn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?
[07:41] <trappist> Jucato: sorry, lspci -n
[07:41] <trappist> to show device and vendor ids
[07:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Does your xorg.conf still have all the wacom stuff in it uncommented by chance ?
[07:42] <edgar> hay alguien que hable espaol?
[07:42] <Hawkwind> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <Jucato> trappist: I think you addressed the wrong person
[07:42] <trappist> oh, oops
[07:42] <trappist> I seem to do that a lot lately
[07:42] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:42] <Jucato> but my question was addressed to you, btw
[07:43] <Jucato> trappist: isn't the output of lspci the same thing you can find in KInfoCenter?
[07:43] <trappist> Jucato: never used kinfocenter, but probably
[07:44] <sorush20> hi guys is there anyother way that I could do fast searches of my hdd?
[07:44] <Nerevar> progress
[07:44] <trappist> sorush20: a way other than what
[07:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think so. I never commented it out (yet). But this xorg.conf is an output of nvidia-xconfig
[07:44] <sorush20> trappist: thank ctrl + f in konqueror?
[07:44] <Jucato> Nerevar: how wasit?
[07:44] <trappist> sorush20: the fast way is to use locate, but you'll only get files that existed before the most recent run of updatedb
[07:44] <Mez> sorush20, what type of fast searches, and other than what
[07:44] <Nerevar> I used the super grub boot disk, got grub on the computer.. it saw ubuntu and xp, and refused to boot either
[07:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Can you look for me.  If so, can you pastebin it for me please
[07:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: sure
[07:44] <Jucato> doing that right now
[07:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks :)
[07:45] <klerfayt> trappist: does "lspci -v" show you device id's?
[07:45] <Nerevar> so if the automatic grub doesnt work, I guess i have to do it manually, i dont know
[07:46] <Jucato> Nerevar: probably. are you trying to install GRUB on the MBR of the first hard disk?
[07:46] <trappist> klerfayt: sorry no, that's -n.  but -n doesn't show device names, so you need to find the device first with just lspci, then look for it in the output of lspci -n
[07:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hope this helps: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21818 (but I will not take responsibility for messed up systems. lol!)
[07:47] <Nerevar> jucato:yes
[07:47] <Buldden> hi
[07:47] <jan> hi all
[07:47] <Jucato> Nerevar: this is what I usually do. I can't guarantee that it will work 100% for you
[07:47] <glenn> hi all
[07:47] <Nerevar> jucato: nod... i dont really understand the manual options
[07:48] <Jucato> Nerevar: are you now in your working Kubuntu system?
[07:48] <klerfayt> trappist: I got it - 10de:0167
[07:49] <Nerevar> jucato: no... after the automatic procedure, neither OS would boot
[07:49] <jan> first i want to apologize for my bad english, but i've got a problem
[07:49] <rexdiver> can someone help a first timer with kubuntu 6.06.1?
[07:49] <Jucato> Nerevar: so where are you working from right now?
[07:49] <Nerevar> i blew out grub and ran fixmbr
[07:49] <Jucato> oh
[07:50] <eljefe> jan and rexdiver, what is it?
[07:50] <rexdiver> i just set up my laptop and it's working great but I don't know how to get the wireless nic working
[07:50] <jan> i want to compile some prgramms but there is no compiler installed, so i downloaded prcompiled rpm. how can i install them?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> jan,  install the compiler...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> what are ya trying to install anyway?
[07:51] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Thanks.  I won't use it specifically, just pull parts from it
[07:51] <sorush20> where is all the artwork for kde?
[07:51] <alex_> i cant change as root the fstab file . when i want to save there comes "read only file system"
[07:51] <Jucato> Hawkwind: yeah, I figured you would. lol
[07:52] <Jucato> sorush20: scattered. depends on which one you're looking for
[07:52] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok, boot into your Kubuntu Live CD and launch Konsole
[07:52] <jan> my question was how to install the compiler :)
[07:52] <Nerevar> ok
[07:52] <Nerevar> oh btw
[07:52] <trappist> jan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> install build-essential for a start.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Thats got to bein the tip 10 faq also! ;P
[07:52] <Nerevar> my internet won't work on the live cd, it wont enabel eth1. the chipset is broadcom 4306
[07:53] <Jucato> jan: did you check if the program that you are trying to install is available in our repositories?
[07:53] <trappist> Dr_Willis: if not the top 1
[07:53] <trappist> the top 1 will soon be "how do I install firefox2 in dapper"
[07:53] <Jucato> alex_: in Konqueror, look for fstab in /etc. then right-click on the fstab file, select Actions, then select Edit as Root
[07:54] <Buldden> how open .arj .lzh archives in ark?? i have installed arj and lha but ark not open this filetype
[07:54] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok
[07:54] <jan> via Adept?
[07:54] <eljefe> ok for the compiler question: do you have a working internet on that machine?  If so, use your K-Menu to go to System --> Adept
[07:54] <Jucato> Nerevar: better take down notes, then...
[07:54] <alex_> its on an another computer. he doesnt start
[07:54] <eljefe> It will ask for a password, so give it
[07:54] <Mez> Nerevar, for that chipset I believe you need to grab the firmware from somewhere else
[07:54] <eljefe> then find a compiler in there (search in Adept)
[07:55] <alex_> i can only do something in the terminal
[07:55] <Jucato> alex_: then "sudo nano <filename>" will launch nano (a text editor) as root so you can edit
[07:55] <jan> ahh. thx i've always tried add/remove software ..
[07:55] <tobias> if i have a friend who is very used to windows who wishes to play cs on his computer, and I have convinced him to use linux to play it since they tested it and it worked quicker and stuff, is there anything I should remember or any special linux distrubution that would be perfect for counterstrike gaming? :)
[07:55] <Jucato> Nerevar: still there?
[07:55] <tobias> is it kubuntu?
[07:56] <alex_> i have used nano & vi
[07:56] <eljefe> Add/Remove is for basic boring things, but Adept (or Synaptec) is for more geeky programs
[07:56] <klerfayt> tobias: how can cs be quicker with emulation on the same hardware?
[07:56] <eljefe> :)
[07:56] <Jucato> alex_: did you use "sudo nano" ?
[07:56] <Nerevar> yeah
[07:56] <tobias> klerfayt wine is not an emulator
[07:56] <trpr> tobias: i don't think the distribution matters. either way its a fair amount of work getting cs to run in wine.. but when it does, it is every so sweet :)
[07:56] <tobias> ah
[07:56] <Nerevar> jucato: i was just hungry realized i iddnt eat today been twinking with this since i got up
[07:56] <alex_> but he says read only file system
[07:56] <trappist> klerfayt: wine even stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[07:56] <tobias> someone should streamline it!
[07:56] <rexdiver> can someone help with wpa wireless with intel 3945?
[07:57] <alex_> yes
[07:57] <Jucato> eljefe: Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to see some programs..
[07:57] <tobias> trpr: is there some kind of batch file that could be made that would make it all so easy?
[07:57] <alex_> sudo nano and before sudo -s
[07:57] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok. in Konsole, type in "sudo grub"
[07:57] <tobias> trpr: and is wine free?
[07:57] <trappist> tobias: yes
[07:57] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[07:57] <tobias> trappist: wine is free?
[07:58] <trappist> yes
[07:58] <trpr> tobias: probably. i havn't looked into it in awhile. for all i know, there is a shiny new howto somewhere. and yeah, wine is free. cedega isn't however
[07:58] <tobias> trappist: good, thanks
[07:58] <Jucato> Nerevar: then it will display the partitions where the grub directory is installed
[07:58] <trappist> tobias: there's cedega, which is basically wine for games, which is non-free for the binary version, but you can still get the source for free and build it yourself
[07:58] <eljefe> Bullden I am blocked from private messaging...
[07:58] <tobias> I just mean if im gonna convert people into linux its sucki to have to make them write lots of stuff to make stuff work
[07:58] <Nerevar> ok
[07:58] <tobias> aha
[07:58] <trpr> tobias: cedega runs cs out of the box, but it doesn't perform very well.
[07:58] <tobias> cool:)
[07:59] <Buldden> ok eljefe
[07:59] <tobias> trpr: is it possible to make it perform better?
[07:59] <trappist> tobias: it's a shame that our wine package doesn't work out of the box.  there's no reason it can't, except that it would take some work on the part of the packager.
[07:59] <alex_> and what now? chmod 777 dont work too
[07:59] <tobias> aha
[07:59] <Nerevar> jucato: ill let you know because the install procedure never askedm e where i wanted to put grub.. so i guess it probably put it somewhere wrong
[07:59] <tobias> yeah!
[07:59] <tobias> the wine package is very importanyt
[07:59] <trappist> alex_: don't ever chmod 777 except for /tmp
[07:59] <trappist> tobias: I agree
[07:59] <tobias> sneak linux in the backdoor gdamnit!
[07:59] <trpr> tobias: yeah. use wine and not cedega.. i don't know what cedega's issue is with it, but the fps suffers
[07:59] <tobias> aha
[07:59] <Jucato> Nerevar: it will be something like "(hd1,0)" <-- in this case, the grub directory can be found in the first partition of the 2nd hard drive (hdb1)
[08:00] <Jucato> Nerevar: I'm talking about the /boot/grub directory
[08:00] <tobias> can someone with my limited skills somehow help make an installation package for wine that would kick ass I wonder :D
[08:00] <Buldden> eljefe i have just installed arj lha packages
[08:00] <pointwood> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21819
[08:00] <trappist> tobias: packaging is hard.  but there's no reason you couldn't learn to do it :)
[08:00] <nlindblad> is there a deafult hot key combination for switching between the different work spaces?
[08:00] <Buldden> but not open this filetype with ark
[08:00] <pointwood> I get that error when trying to install sun java
[08:01] <pointwood> I've tried to use easyubuntu earlier...
[08:01] <Buldden> but i can extract in console
[08:01] <Jucato> Nerevar: btw, where did you install Kubuntu?
[08:01] <tobias> trappist: cool :) I will find a way and come here and ask silly questions(although I have this friend who is really good with this stuff Il bother mostly) :)
[08:01] <trappist> nlindblad: I use ctrl-f1 through f4.  there's another one to move through them, but I don't use it and don't know what it is.  ctrl-arrows maybe.
[08:01] <nlindblad> :D
[08:01] <nlindblad> thanks
[08:01] <trappist> ok not ctrl-arrows :)
[08:01] <alex_> what to do??
[08:02] <trappist> alex_: what was the original problem?
[08:03] <alex_> i change something in the fstab file & the othe pc does not start
[08:04] <alex_> & now i cant change anything in the fstab file
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: uh oh.  you'll probably need to boot to a livecd, mount your filesystem from there, and fix it that way.
[08:04] <Jucato> Nerevar: anyway, you'll probably only have one output from the "find /boot/grub/stage1" command. it will be (hd#,#)
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: why not?
[08:04] <trappist> alex_: if you're on that system, scratch what I said a minute ago about the livecd
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: now , type in "root (hd#,#)"  (the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1")
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "setup (hd0)" <-- this will install GRUB in hd0, which is the first hard disk, also known as hda
[08:05] <Jucato> Nerevar: then "quit" and reboot
[08:06] <jan> cu
[08:06] <Nerevar> jucato: I installed kubuntu to sda5 and the swap is in sda6
[08:06] <D4rkly> how do i install xgl on kubuntu for compiz it says edit gdm. im running kde ???
[08:06] <trappist> D4rkly: then edit the ServerCmd line in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[08:06] <alex_> how to mount the file system with the live cd?????
[08:06] <Jucato> Nerevar: ok, then you will probably get something like "(sd0,4)" as the result of "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:07] <trappist> alex_: if you're on that system and have access to the file, forget about the livecd.  we just need to figure out why you can't edit it, and fix that.
[08:07] <InuDuelist> I'm having a bit of a problm using .deb files, can anyone help?
[08:07] <D4rkly> is there a xgl kubuntu guide anywhere ?
[08:07] <Jucato> Nerevar: I'm not sure if the output will be (hd0,4) or (sd0,4)
[08:07] <D4rkly> !xgl
[08:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:07] <trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:07] <trappist> D4rkly: there are many known to google
[08:08] <DBO> D4rkly, its essentially the same for gnome and kde
[08:08] <DBO> D4rkly, and the ubuntu wiki does cover kde
[08:09] <Nerevar> ok, i wrote all that down
[08:09] <Nerevar> jucato just to let you know i boot from my sata drive
[08:09] <trappist> none of the howtos quite worked for me.  since kde-window-decorator just plain "doesn't work", at least for me, the closest I got was using gnome-window-decorator in kde, which pretty much sucked
[08:10] <Jucato> Nerevar: if it outputs (sd0,4), the adjust the commands to "root (sd0,4)" and "setup (sd0)"
[08:10] <JRH3K5> Hmm
[08:10] <Nerevar> nod
[08:10] <JRH3K5> I wonder what would happen if I tried to SSH into Kubuntu, and then restart OpenSSH?
[08:10] <trappist> JRH3K5: it'll just work.  won't disconnect you or anything.
[08:10] <JRH3K5> Oh.
[08:10] <trappist> it's pretty slick.
[08:11] <trappist> JRH3K5: when you ssh in, you get your own sshd process that isn't killed by the restart.
[08:11] <InuDuelist> I'm having a bit of a problem downloading .deb files and using them, can someone help me out?
[08:12] <Jucato> InuDuelist: what are you trying to install?
[08:12] <trappist> InuDuelist: I responded to you once.  need more information now.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> You responded?
[08:12] <trappist> 13:07 <trappist> InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> Oh, yes.
 InuDuelist: in general you don't want to mess with .deb files.  just use apt-get, if possible.
[08:12] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:12] <InuDuelist> I opened a query with you, but you didn't respond.
[08:12] <D4rkly> in the kubuntu tutorial it says to install compiz-gnome ???
[08:12] <trappist> oh, my channel list is bigger than my terminal window.  and, don't do that.  keep support stuff in the channel.
[08:12] <InuDuelist> I stated that I didn't really have a choice, as it wasn't in any known repositories.
[08:13] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[08:13] <trappist> D4rkly: there's also compiz-kde but that didn't work for me
[08:13] <trappist> InuDuelist: what package.
[08:13] <InuDuelist> Here's one of the many, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113
[08:13] <InuDuelist> But it isn't really the package that matters, it's all .debs.
[08:13] <Jucato> InuDuelist: most support questions/answers are discussed in the main channel for the benefit of others
[08:13] <InuDuelist> I see.
[08:14] <Jucato> deb = package... ^_^
[08:14] <trappist> InuDuelist: what happens when you try to install it.
[08:14] <Jucato> lol
[08:14] <InuDuelist> Well, in Konquerer, it opens the .deb in Kate, stating that if I attempt to save it, it'll become corrupt.
[08:14] <InuDuelist> In Firefox, it just don't work.
[08:14] <ubuntu_> Sqlut /
[08:14] <Jucato> InuDuelist: polyester is available from our repositories
[08:14] <trappist> InuDuelist: just download it and say sudo dpkg -i filename.deb in the console
[08:14] <D4rkly> can someone point me to a kubuntu/kde specific xgl guide :)
[08:14] <ubuntu_> >nick Aloowan
[08:15] <trappist> or listen to Jucato who knows something I don't know
[08:15] <InuDuelist> It saves in under one second, and gives me an error message when I attempt to open it.
[08:15] <Jucato> lol
[08:15] <ubuntu_> erf /
[08:15] <Jucato> InuDuelist: the Polyester style can be installed from our repositories
[08:15] <Jucato> !kde-style-polyester
[08:15] <InuDuelist> Can it?
[08:15] <ubotu> kde-style-polyester: The Polyester widget style for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 117 kB, installed size 440 kB
[08:15] <Jucato> InuDuelist: yep. pretty sure. I have it installed
[08:15] <InuDuelist> Alright, but for the rest of my .debs?
[08:15] <trappist> apparently it's in universe
[08:15] <InuDuelist> they all get the same problem.
[08:16] <trappist> InuDuelist: don't install software that way.  if you have to install a .deb (which is pretty rare, actually) just download it to your home directory and say 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb' in a console.
[08:16] <Jucato> Hm... actually this seems to be a problem in Konqueror
[08:16] <InuDuelist> Tried it.
[08:16] <InuDuelist> Error Message:
[08:16] <InuDuelist> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41113
[08:16] <Jucato> trappist: the problem is something with Konqueror and KDE-Look
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Gr.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Error Message"
[08:17] <InuDuelist> The utility is not in your PATH.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[08:17] <InuDuelist> I am the system administrator, and I'm trying to install it.
[08:17] <trappist> Jucato: that would be an ironic incompatibility
[08:18] <Jucato> trappist: Konqueror sees the link as a PHP file, and so tries to open Kate. if you right-click Save Link As, it will try to save a PHP file
[08:18] <Jucato> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[08:18] <trappist> that's funny.  surely you get the option to download it if you just left-click it?
[08:18] <InuDuelist> In Konquerer, no.
[08:18] <Jucato> InuDuelist: try right-clicking on the download link and select Save Link As
[08:18] <InuDuelist> in Firefox, yes.
[08:19] <Jucato> does it try to save as document.php
[08:19] <InuDuelist> It does what you stated, tries to save it as download.php
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:19] <InuDuelist> :P
[08:19] <InuDuelist> I'll be back in a minute.
[08:19] <trappist> Jucato: yeah bug gmail isn't :)
[08:20] <Jucato> trappist: what Gmail bug?   I dont want to
[08:20] <RawSewage> theres a way to make the button work
[08:21] <RawSewage> I forgot
[08:21] <D4rkly> there is eject in bin
[08:21] <InuDuelist> Back.
[08:21] <Jucato> trappist: I have a strange experience today: the eject button works just by pressing the button... even when there's a CD inside...
[08:21] <InuDuelist> What's next?
[08:21] <trappist> RawSewage: some distros use supermount, which imho sucks but makes that possible.  that's the only solution I know.
[08:21] <trappist> Jucato: if there's a cd inside, it's not necessarily mounted.  only mounting it makes it unejectable.
[08:22] <RawSewage> Im pretty sure theres a way to make the eject button work
[08:22] <JonTec> !Tilib
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tilib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <RawSewage> regardless of mounting
[08:22] <Jucato> trappist: so if I put a CD inside, then a program uses it, then I close the program, it's not considered mounted?
[08:22] <JonTec> !tilip
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tilip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <trappist> RawSewage: I've spent many hours searching for a solution so I could install multi-cd games in wine.  afaik there is none except supermount, which would involve patching the kernel.
[08:22] <CatSoup> i'm sure this has been asked about a million times, but how do i get flash to work on konqueror? <---- noobie
[08:23] <D4rkly> oh eject is in /usr/bin/ you can make a link on your desktop then you will have an eject button :)
[08:23] <trappist> D4rkly: yeah but that still won't work while the cd's mounted
[08:23] <Jucato> or make a keyboard shortcut for it...
[08:23] <D4rkly> i think it does
[08:24] <Jucato> trappist: about the multi-cd installers, it doesn't work even if you try to run the installer with wine from the command line?
[08:24] <trappist> Jucato: no. the problem is that the installer is running *from* the cd, which means you can't umount the cd (it's in use) until you quit the installer.
[08:25] <kraut> i recreated my / on a dmcrypt with ext3. my /boot is a normal ext2. normally the initrd should contain the dm_crypt modules. if i want to boot the system, i get an error 24 of grub.
[08:25] <Jucato> trappist: hm.... this is what I did while trying to install DS1
[08:25] <ravenous> copy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there
[08:25] <kraut> has anybody an idea what i do wrong?
[08:25] <Jucato> trappist: install with wine from the command line, then eject the CD by right-clicking it in Konqueror
[08:25] <Jucato> it worked for me
[08:25] <kraut> 24 : Attempt to access block outside partition
[08:25] <kraut>     This error is returned if a linear block address is outside of the disk partition. This generally happens because of a corrupt filesystem on the disk or a bug in the code handling it in GRUB (it's a great debugging tool).
[08:26] <trappist> Jucato: that's pretty cool.  I never could get baldur's gate 2 installed once I quit using mandrake, which used supermount
[08:27] <Jucato> trappist: hope it works for you, too.
[08:27] <trappist> Jucato: it just so happens I've lost interest in all my multi-cd games, but hopefully it'll work for RawSewage :)
[08:28] <ravenous> i know with ut2k4 you just have to copy the first cd to the hdd and run the installer from there and it will let you switch the rest of the cds out no problem
[08:28] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:28] <nath3000> Hi- got a bit of a problem here. I'm trying to install packages, but everytime told gsfonts-x11 needs to be installed. So it tries to install it, but fails because the postinst is trying to run update-fonts-dir with an option it won't handle (namely -x11r7-layout). Help?-
[08:28] <trappist> RawSewage: yeah that one's easy, because the installer's not running from the cd (also I have the dvd version so it's not an issue anyway :))
[08:28] <fdoving>    away
[08:28] <trappist> nath3000: sounds like a bug
[08:29] <fdoving> gah..
[08:29] <nath3000> trappist: I don't know how important that option is- if I could rebuild it without that option, maybe it would make dpkg/dselect complete and be happy
[08:30] <trappist> nath3000: you could try having a look at the postinst script and maybe comment out that line
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/gsfonts-x11.postinst
[08:31] <nath3000> trappist: I've never played with .deb files before- I found I needed two commands to extract the contents. One to get the files that will go on the filesystem, and the other to extract the DEBIAN dir with the postinst
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: you're using dapper?  my gsfonts-x11 postinst doesn't use that option
[08:31] <trappist> nath3000: you don't need to mess with the .deb - just edit the postinst script on your filesystem
[08:32] <trappist> (I think)
[08:32] <sbartleylinux> If I want to restrict ssh access to my server but still have ltsp clients work, how should I configure sshd_config?
[08:32] <nath3000> trappist: Oh yes, I see it- I didn't realise it cached them like that. Okay, I've edited it (removed the troublesome option).
[08:33] <InuDuelist> What's the command to search all folders within a folder?
[08:33] <Hawkwind> grep -R or you can use find
[08:33] <trappist> nath3000: you're on dapper?  I'm awfully curious where that package came from
[08:33] <InuDuelist> Thanks.
[08:33] <trappist> InuDuelist: are you searching for a file by filename or by contents
[08:34] <nath3000> trappist: Yep, Dapper. The original one.
[08:34] <InuDuelist> I'll looking for a folder
[08:34] <InuDuelist> Filename.
[08:34] <InuDuelist> Well, keyword.
[08:34] <trappist> nath3000: I wonder why my postinst script for gsfonts-x11 doesn't have that option
[08:34] <nath3000> trappist: It had had all the updates applied a few days ago.
[08:35] <trappist> InuDuelist: find . -type d -name '*keyword*'
[08:35] <trappist> nath3000: I had mine applied a few minutes ago
[08:35] <nath3000> trappist: gsfonts-x11_0.20_all.deb
[08:35] <trappist> nath3000: mine is 0.17...
[08:36] <trappist> nath3000: apt-cache policy gsfonts-x11
[08:36] <nath3000> trappist: and the script that is moaning about the option it doesn't understand, update-fonts-dir, that comes from xfonts-utils
[08:36] <Jucato> trappist: I may have a sort of "workaround" to InuDuelist's (and my) downloading problem
[08:36] <trappist> nath3000: my xfonts-utils is <IP_ADDRESS>-5
[08:37] <draik> Jucato!
[08:37] <Jucato> hi draik!!
[08:37] <trappist> Jucato: kick kde-look for using such a round-about and non-konqueror compatible download link?
[08:37] <nath3000> trappist: mine too
[08:37] <Jucato> lol
[08:37] <trappist> nath3000: what does apt-cache policy gsfonts-x11 say
[08:38] <trappist> nath3000: | grep 500
[08:38] <Jucato> trappist and InuDuelist: whenever Konqueror tries to open/save something as a PHP file, just rename the download into it's appropriate file type, in this case I renamed it "polyester.deb"
[08:38] <nath3000> trappist: 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[08:38] <trappist> Jucato: ew.  but glad it worked :)
[08:38] <fdoving> trappist: 'apt-cache madison package' is nice :)
[08:38] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:39] <trappist> nath3000: maybe there's an update that's hit that mirror but not mine?  I'm pretty confused.
[08:39] <draik> lovely save as feature...
[08:39] <Jucato> fdoving: I just learned that command the other day. it's good... ^_^
[08:39] <trappist> fdoving: oh, that *is* nice
[08:39] <InuDuelist> Jucato, thanks for that.
[08:39] <InuDuelist> Anyone use Yakuake?
[08:39] <draik> I do
[08:40] <fdoving> Jucato: and after you've saved it as polyester.deb, you can use 'dpkg-name polyester.deb' to get the proper name on it.
[08:40] <nath3000> trappist: My friends machine on which this problem exists (and I am typing from) isn't on broadband, but I am. So I downloaded "by hand", hoping to install. I think that might be connected in some way
[08:40] <InuDuelist> Do you know how to use an installed theme?
[08:40] <Jucato> fdoving: yep. or just right-click on it
[08:40] <trappist> nath3000: I guarantee it is.  you almost certainly got the edgy package.
[08:40] <Jucato> InuDuelist: in this case, Polyester is a widget Style
[08:40] <fdoving> Jucato: dpkg-name will rename it automagically, to the nice debianized name.
[08:40] <InuDuelist> Jucato, I'm talking about a yaKuake theme.
[08:40] <trappist> nath3000: confirmed, 0.20 is the edgy version
[08:40] <nath3000> trappist: But I dialed up, and there's no updates waiting for me except some amarok-related ones
[08:40] <Jucato> InuDuelist: oooh..
[08:41] <Jucato> fdoving: ok... I just misread what you said.. sorry about that
[08:41] <nath3000> trappist: ooo, they have some problem then...I definitely got that file from the ubuntu directory
[08:41] <InuDuelist> It's ok, but do you know how?
[08:41] <trappist> nath3000: no, you downloaded an edgy package that shouldn't have let you install it.
[08:41] <Jucato> InuDuelist: unfortunately, the only time I tried a Yakuake theme, it made it crash
[08:41] <InuDuelist> I see.
[08:41] <trappist> nath3000: 'ubuntu' isn't enough.  there's ubuntu dapper (what you're running) and ubuntu edgy (the repo you got the package from)
[08:42] <Jucato> fdoving: a very handy tool, dpkg-name truly is
[08:42] <trappist> nath3000: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gsfonts-x11/+bug/52803
[08:42] <eljefedelito> nath3000: its like saying Windows or MacOS.  There are more than one version.
[08:42] <fdoving> Jucato: sure is :)
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Jucato, do you know where I choose the theme?
[08:43] <InuDuelist> I installed one, but I can't find it anywhere.
[08:43] <nath3000> trappist: Sorry, what I meant to say was that I was sure I got it from the dapper directory...but now I see there isn't one on the main archive mirrors
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Er, in Yakuake options, that is.
[08:43] <Jucato> InuDuelist: for Yakuake?
[08:43] <InuDuelist> Yes.
[08:43] <Jucato> InuDuelist: it should have an instruction for it..
[08:44] <nath3000> trappist: So what I think happened is I got confused, and assumed I was in the dapper files, when I was in non-version specific territory, with dapper, edgy, etc all in together
[08:44] <InuDuelist> Jucato, all it says is that the name is "Pure Technology".
[08:45] <InuDuelist> Nothing else.
[08:45] <Jucato> oh... sorry I'mnot familiar with it..
[08:45] <fdoving> nath3000: using http://packages.ubuntu.com is advisable.
[08:45] <atticstorm> All has anyone had any luck getting the Hawking H-WU36D Wireless USB network adapte working?  I tried it plug an play and Kinfocenter saw it as unknown.  I also tried ndiswrapper with no change other than breaking my PCMCIA wireless card - backed out and undone.  Have not seen anything on any webpages.
[08:45] <InuDuelist> Aw.
[08:46] <trappist> nath3000: could very well be
[08:46] <atticstorm> Update I have a email out to Hawking Tech, but no reply as yet.
[08:46] <digits> what's teh kubuntu version of gksudo?
[08:46] <Jucato> digits: kdesu
[08:46] <nath3000> fdoving: Cheers. In future though, I'm not going to bother trying to cart over debs to his house- he can bring his box to my house and get them via broadband using adept or something :)
[08:46] <trappist> digits: kdesu
[08:46] <pointwood> argh! doh! stupid! to accept the sun java license you have to tick a checkbox at the end of the license, I've just clicked next...
[08:46] <digits> thanks
[08:46] <fdoving> nath3000: in the filestructure of the mirrors you'll find all versions of a package (<breezy, dapper and edgy) all mixed in one directory. There are 'Packages' files to keep track of which version belongs to what release.
[08:47] <sbartleylinux> Can anyone help with an ubuntu ltsp server ssh configuration?
[08:47] <nath3000> trappist: Well, that seems to have worked, dpkg was happy to replace the broken, almost-installed EE one with the dapper one
[08:47] <trappist> nath3000: good deal
[08:48] <trappist> nath3000: for future reference, if you have to do something like that, sudo apt-get install --download-only packagename and get the file from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:48] <fdoving> nath3000: good solution. or you could 'apt-get clean' and then 'apt-get install --reinstall' what he wants (drop --reinstall if you haven't got it installed already), and copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:48] <trappist> fdoving: or that
[08:48] <fdoving> trappist: -d is also smart, yes. :)
[08:49] <nath3000> trappist: And the reason I was doing this was to install testdisk- but the version apt-get finds is really old...6.1 from 2005 versus 6.4
[08:49] <Jucato> !pastebin > Jucato
[08:50] <trappist> nath3000: the stuff apt-get finds is what's available for your release.  going to look for newer stuff is likely to break things.
[08:50] <nath3000> trappist: the --download-only is for me to run on my box at home, to grab the *correct* version of the file, safe to take round on something like my external hard drive?
[08:50] <trappist> nath3000: yes
[08:51] <fdoving> yes, and it will get the dependencies too.
[08:52] <nath3000> trappist: That's great. Well, here;'s hoping testdisk isn't too old to work. I've got to grab some video off of a DVB-T set top box's hard drive which my friend erased...finger's crossed!
[08:52] <InuDuelist> Anyone know how to install a Yakuake skin?
[08:52] <nath3000> Thanks trappist/fdoving
[08:53] <trappist> Jucato: "hole"
[08:53] <trappist> :)
[08:54] <Jucato> lol
[08:54] <Jucato> I'm 4 hours waaaay past my bedtime..
[08:54] <terry_> ok... i'm a linux noob, how do i install packages using kubuntu?
[08:54] <tsdgeos> using adept
[08:54] <terry_> go on. :)
[08:55] <terry_> i downloaded a game off the ubuntu site, and it gave me a debian binary thing.
[08:55] <tsdgeos> there is a "add/remove programs entry" in the k-menu
[08:55] <trappist> terry_: avoid that whenever possible
[08:55] <aliasfred> !adept
[08:55] <tsdgeos> ah
[08:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:55] <tsdgeos> you have a .deb ?
[08:55] <terry_> yes.
[08:55] <tsdgeos> sudo dpkg --install file
[08:55] <aliasfred> sudo dpkg -i yourpackagenamegoeshere.deb
[08:56] <terry_> ...sudo?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> terry_,  use the package manager. :P no need to manually download the thing.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[08:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> You are thinking in windows terms. :)
[08:56] <irrelevant> terry_: if you right-click on the .deb file, there's a option to install
[08:56] <terry_> i have a lot of learning to do. :(
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Yep
[08:56] <terry_> true, but it asks for a password
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> #1 - fire up adept, and look for games
[08:57] <terry_> and when i type, no letters come up
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> sudo password is the first users password
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> and of COURSE you dont want the password shown as you type.
[08:57] <terry_> well nothing happens after i type it and press enter.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Logical eh? :P and no it dont print *'s  as you type either.
[08:57] <gomek> click the box in order to type in it
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Computers 101. heh..
[08:58] <terry_> crap...
[08:58] <gomek> the only time i don't get *'s is when i sudo from the command prompt
[08:58] <terry_> hmm.
[08:58] <terry_> something blew up. :-/
[08:59] <InuDuelist> You'd think that there'd be some sort of guide somewhere on the internet as to how to install Yakuake themes.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> But there isn't.
[08:59] <terry_> wth is yakuake?
[08:59] <Jucato> InuDuelist: frustrating isn't it?
[08:59] <InuDuelist> Yakuake is a terminal program.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> It rolls down from the top of the screen.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> With the push of a button.
[08:59] <Jucato> InuDuelist: you "might" get some help from #yakuake
[08:59] <irrelevant> InuDuelist: where did you get the theme?
[08:59] <trappist> InuDuelist: most well-made themes contain installation instructions in a README or INSTALL file in the tarball
[08:59] <InuDuelist> Whoa.
[08:59] <InuDuelist> That's a channel.
[09:00] <terry_> hmm.
[09:00] <InuDuelist> trappist, all it does is state what the name is.
[09:00] <terry_> each time i try to install a package it comes up with dependency problems
[09:00] <Jucato> trappist: unfortunately, some things in KDE-Look are far from being "well-made" or even documented at all..
[09:00] <gomek> where are you trying to install from terry
[09:00] <trappist> InuDuelist: well, I did say 'well-made' themes :)
[09:00] <trappist> Jucato: no kidding
[09:00] <Jucato> trappist: no, I was just kidding. lol
[09:00] <Jucato>
[09:01] <irrelevant> InuDuelist: kde-look usually has instructions for everything... one here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41021
[09:01] <InuDuelist> It's a shame that nobody is alive in there.
[09:01] <trappist> Jucato: I should hold my tongue though - I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of poorly documented stuff on kde-look
[09:01] <draik> KDE-look almost crashed my 2nd install of Kubuntu