[15:37] <Guest32060> Hello, I need Help with apply for funding for Ubuntu LoCo Team please!
[15:42] <Guest32060> I write to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and i no have reply :/
[16:19] <pleia2> Guest32060: did you fill out the form here? http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
[16:20] <Guest32060> Yes pleia2  that I no recibe respounse :(
[16:21] <pleia2> Guest32060: I think they go over requests every week or so, how long has it been?
[16:21] <pleia2> ^^ popey, mhall119
[16:21]  * popey looks up
[16:22] <popey> Guest32060: when did you fill the form in?
[16:22] <Guest32060> popey: Last Week1
[16:22] <Guest32060> I'm Jhosman form Ubuntu Colombia
[16:22] <popey> ah, we review on Wednesdays
[16:23] <Guest32060> the form has been apply by linaporras to Flisol Bogotá 2017 event
[16:23] <popey> i see the request
[16:24] <Guest32060> popey: excuseme linaporrras says to mee aplpy in 2 weeks and no have reply
[16:24] <Guest32060> +2 Weeks !
[16:24] <Guest32060> :blush:
[16:25] <popey> myself and mhall119 review them on wednesdays, but he was travelling last wednesday so we couldn't. mhall119 want to look them over now?
[16:27] <Guest32060> mhall119: can help me in 2 o 3 years last!
[16:27] <popey> Guest32060: thanks for letting us know, we'll look at it as soon as we can
[16:30] <Guest32060> I think the email is linaporras at gmail dat com or linaporras at ubuntu dat com  popey  mhall119
[16:30] <popey> we have the address, thanks :)
[16:32] <Guest32060> If you wish, I can wait here for a little while to have them reviewed. No problem.
[16:32] <popey> it seems mhall119 is away so we can't right now. we'll reply via email as usual
[16:43] <Guest32060> Thanks! popey  mhall119  :)


[16:26] <olavgg> Hi guys! I have a problem with MAAS that I can't figure out, if I try to create a subnet in the WEBUI it fails with the following error: Extra data: line 1 column 4 (char 3)
[16:26] <olavgg> is this a bug?


[06:40] <zequence> sakreZZzz: Was actually a pretty simple fix. Usually, when ISOs don't build, it is because of some conflict among packages, and most often it is not related to multimedia, in which case most other distros also have it - at least Xubuntu, and we don't need to sweat too much over it.
[06:41] <zequence> This time, a python library was pretty much only affecting ladi tools, so we were alone in having the problem, and it was up to us to either fix the bug with the library, or remove any dependencies to it.
[06:42] <zequence> I won't have time to try fix the library issues, so I will let that slide. Besides, I don't use ladi myself, and not sure how many do in fact, though it seems to be a great idea.
[06:43] <zequence> So close to release, there's not much I can do aside from drop Gladish.
[06:51] <sakreZZzz> i've been meaning to use ladi, but i rarly use the same setup twice, so in my workflow its superfluous
[06:51] <sakreZZzz> i realize now, i forgot to mention that i didn't manage to get that scribus fix done
[06:51] <sakreZZzz> aka the unknwon i was battling...
[06:59] <sakrecoer> sometimes i wonder how you guys so much done with so little communication. or am i missing a channel?
[06:59] <sakrecoer> *get* so much done..
[06:59] <sakrecoer> :)
[07:00] <zequence> Just let me know where you were having problems, and I can guide you through it
[07:00] <zequence> The biggest hurdle with getting into development here is just learning all the rules and tools
[07:01] <zequence> There's a lot of systems you have to become familiar with, even just to fix a missing desktop file
[07:02] <sakrecoer> are there any tutorials on the subject?
[07:02] <zequence> We don't actually do that much, I would say. And, all we do is communicated either here or on the mail list
[07:02] <sakrecoer> ok :)
[07:03] <zequence> There are tutorials for all kinds of things, but if your goal is to fix the desktop file, it is easier if I guide you through it. Later, you can investigate any particular tool you were using to get that done.
[07:04] <sakrecoer> i got "fatal error debuild -S -sa"
[07:04] <sakrecoer> i mean on debuild -S -sa
[07:05] <sakrecoer> dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b scribus-ubuntu
[07:05] <sakrecoer> gave error exit status 2
[07:05] <sakrecoer> debuild: fatal error at line 1374: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa failed
[07:05] <sakrecoer> uploading failed too... but i guess that was good thing
[07:06] <zequence> Since the build failed, there was nothing to upload
[07:06] <sakrecoer> it said Not a .changes file. Please select a .changes file to upload.
[07:06] <zequence> You probably just missed a step somewhere
[07:06] <zequence> You won't have a changes file, unless there was a build
[07:06] <sakrecoer> yeah... i tried 3 times... i must have failed to paste one of the steps you gave me in my textfile
[07:07] <zequence> That's about the way I started learning. Lots of fails
[07:07] <sakrecoer> :) makes me feel better. although i have reasonable expecation about my skillset
[07:08] <zequence> I'm heading to "the office" now. When I'm back (in about 15 min), I'll add a list of commands to a paste link and send it to you
[07:08] <sakrecoer> cheers!! have a great day!
[07:08] <zequence> The important part in the long run is of course to understand what each command does, but it's too much at once
[07:17] <sakrecoer> yes. slowly but surely
[10:14] <zequence> sakrecoer: It seems perhaps edit-patch is not the tool of choice right now
[10:15] <zequence> I'm trying to add the patch myself, but dpkg has made some changes in how patches should be formatted
[10:15] <zequence> I think that was probably the error you had also
[10:16] <zequence> I'll try using quilt and researching more about the problems I'm having
[10:17] <zequence> Started a new part in our wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/DeveloperTutorials
[10:42] <sakrecoer> oh! that is great zequence :)


[11:15] <slashbel> hey, how did the release party go?
[11:18] <moylan70b> just me, airurando and chrono
[11:21] <moylan70b> thought it'd be quiet at porterhouse but live music was a little loud
[11:21] <slashbel> sorry we couldn't make it, landed back from england on Sunday evening
[11:22] <slashbel> aye porterhouse can be a bit noisy, feels like it's just another tourist pub in temple bar
[11:22] <moylan70b> i saw your tweets, your dad was in hospital?  all well?
[11:22] <slashbel> grand, much better now
[11:22] <moylan70b> good to hear
[11:27] <moylan70b> airurando reckoned sundays didn't work and we should go back to saturday parties
[11:28] <airurando> hi all
[11:28] <slashbel> possibly, I'm personally not too keen on drinking during a school night
[11:28] <airurando> slashbel good to hear your dad is doing well
[11:28] <slashbel> thanks
[11:32] <airurando> moylan70b I not sure any day will suit :-(
[11:33] <moylan70b> there was a location that was tweeted as suitable for gamers that might be good for launch parties thomas house dublin
[11:33] <moylan70b> might be worth looking at
[11:33] <airurando> aye
[11:34] <moylan70b> of course getting it on a saturday night···
[11:35] <airurando> not sure if the interest is there for release parties.
[11:36]  * airurando wonders if lts release parties might be the only ones worth targeting
[11:37] <moylan70b> that's an idea
[11:37] <airurando> lots of negativity surrounds interim iterations particularly
[11:38] <airurando> we can discuss this all when the dust settles
[11:38] <moylan70b> but isn't there a chance they might move to a more rolling distro?
[11:40] <airurando> my understanding is that the 6 month releases will continue but support will only be provided for 9 months instead of 18
[11:40] <airurando> who knows what the future will hold.
[11:44] <moylan70b> it's worth the effort to keep trying
[11:49] <airurando> aye indeed


[00:05] <linuxman410> i have a question about video
[00:06] <linuxman410> i turned off computer and back on and now all i have is 640x480 resoultion
[00:10] <linuxman410> i turned off computer and back on and now all i have is 640x480 resoultion
[00:14] <linuxman410> anyone have any ideas how to fix
[00:42] <MAXI-MUM> hey guys i read an article about that windows 7 is far faster than windows vista that is already faster than ubuntu on high end machines !!! is that true?
[00:46] <MAXI-MUM> and i realy hate ubuntu because firefox always crash on youtube
[00:47] <MAXI-MUM> and my boot time suck
[00:47] <MAXI-MUM> but it has a good memory usage apart from 83 mb used by nautilus to just view my desktop
[00:48] <MAXI-MUM> ubuntu is great if it has a better theme and tweak memory usage and boot timwe
[01:41] <charlie-tca> Jaunty Question: Finally got an alternate cd image that loaded. If /home/$USER is carried forward, the user can be added!
[01:41] <charlie-tca> */can/can not
[01:42] <RAOF> I'm not sure I can parse the question out of that.
[01:42] <RAOF> What is it that you're actually asking?
[01:43] <charlie-tca> The user does not currently exist, but /home/$USER does. Trying to add the user generates an error that home directory exists.
[01:43] <charlie-tca> Sorry, question got lost. Is this a known bug?
[01:43] <RAOF> Hm.  I don't know, acutally.
[01:44] <charlie-tca> Any way to add the user if /home/$USER exists?
[01:44] <RAOF> Move /home/$USER away, create the user, copy it back?
[01:45] <RAOF> That's a bit problematic really; there's no guarantee that the newly-created user has the same UID as the old one, so permissions may well be messed up.
[01:45] <charlie-tca> Yeah, looks like it. There is an old Hardy alpha4 bug on the same thing bug 190815
[01:46] <charlie-tca> RAOF: Might be, but I have been doing it since 6.06
[02:44] <maek> can anyone tell me if jaunty has the pkg xcb-util please?
[02:44] <RAOF> maek: /msg ubottu !find xcb-util
[02:45] <maek> RAOF: thanks much :)
[02:47] <RAOF> Hm.  Seems ubottu's on holiday.  I can't find it in Jaunty, no.  What is it?
[02:48] <maek> RAOF: its bindings for X11 C development needed to compile awesome wm
[02:48] <nhandler> packages.ubuntu.com also doesn't produce any results for it
[02:48] <maek> nhandler: thanks
[02:48] <genii> !info libxcb1-dev jaunty
[02:49] <RAOF> Right; that's the core xcb bindings.
[02:49] <maek> these are i think as the name says utilitys for handing cut and paste
[02:49] <maek> thanks all for the help.
[02:50] <maek> I lied, its the replacement for xlib xcb, supposed to make it fast. just reading this I dont know what im talking about.
[02:51] <RAOF> Aaah.  xcb-misc isn't packaged as that; it's split out into its component bindings.
[02:52] <RAOF> You probably want libxcb-icccm0-dev
[02:53] <maek> RAOF: thanks, ill install that and try to compile
[02:53] <maek> I appreciate the help.
[02:53] <RAOF> Generally, running awesome's configure script should tell you the pkg-config files it's after; it'll say something like "xcb-icccm xcb-event xcb-whatever", and you want to apt-file search for xcb-icccm.pc.
[02:54] <genii> Interesting. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/jaunty/xcb-util   reports it exists
[02:54] <RAOF> Right.  That's the source package that builds libxcb-event, libxcb-icccm, etc.
[02:55] <maek> genii: yeah, thats what I came in here to ask, I found a post that said it was built for jaunty
[02:56] <genii> maek: According to the site an Intrepid version exists also
[02:56] <genii> They both seem to be from git, not regular repos
[02:57] <maek> genii: it sas the following binary pkgs are build from this source pkg, does that mean they just use it only to build the regular .debs?
[02:58] <genii> maek: It means it's a source package. So it compiles. What it compiles into binaries (not deb files) is what is in the list
[03:00] <maek> genii: thanks.
[03:00] <genii> maek: np
[03:00] <maek> so it would be the same as doing a git checkout and building it my self? or will using that src pkg provied some dpkg/apt interface to the stuff installed?
[03:01] <genii> maek: Yes, git checkout and build. No dpkg interface unless you do checkinstall or such to build a deb when you compile it
[03:02] <maek> genii: thanks.
[03:02] <RAOF> maek: I think you're a bit confused.
[03:02] <RAOF> You don't need to touch the xcb-misc source package; it's not useful for you.
[03:02] <maek> RAOF: thats a polite understatement
[03:02] <genii> maek: What is it that you perceive to be requiring it for?
[03:03] <maek> RAOF: except that the install instructions say to git checkout and build the xcb-util pkgs from freedesktop.org
[03:03] <RAOF> Awesome doesn't need the xcb-misc library, because it doesn't exist.  xcb-misc is a collection of smaller libraries, which our source package splits into their own binary package.
[03:03] <maek> for awesome wm, just following the ubuntu install guide, except its for hardy, so I was just hopping maybe intrepid had this pkg
[03:03] <maek> RAOF: ah, understood now. thank you.
[03:04] <genii> RAOF: I did notice that the entire list it compiles is available when I apt-cache search
[03:04] <maek> or jaunty, after I saw int mentioned in a search
[03:04] <RAOF> awesome _actually_ needs one or more of the libraries that is bundled in xcb-misc.  They're called 'libxcb-$STUFF-dev'.  Examples of $STUFF are: event, icccm, render, etc.
[03:06] <maek> RAOF: yeah and based on that libxcb-iccm0-dev pkg you told me to install it installed all the event iccm render etc etc stuff
[03:06] <RAOF> So, basically, you want to run awesome's ./configure script, which will hopefully tell you what it needs.
[03:06] <maek> it shows up in dpkg -l but awesomes make is still whining.
[03:07] <RAOF> Can you pastebin the full output of ./configure?
[03:07] <maek> RAOF: they use cmake so I *think* make is also doing the equiv of ./configure
[03:08] <maek> let me pastie, thanks!
[03:10] <maek> RAOF: http://pastebin.com/m6d485bb0
[03:10] <maek> oh, maybe im the worst person ever
[03:10] <maek> >= 0.3.0
[03:11] <maek> these are all 0.2
[03:11] <maek> sorry to have wasted your time
[03:11] <maek> thanks for the hand holding and such.
[03:11] <RAOF> Oooh, so they are.  It needs a newer version of those libs; thus you _will_ have to check out xcb-misc from git.
[03:12] <maek> RAOF: ok thanks. how do you do the underline?
[03:12] <maek> oh, _
[03:17] <RAOF> IRC psueudo-formatting FTW!
[03:17] <maek> :)
[03:18] <maek> one last question and ill stop abusing this channel. is there a way to tell the compile options for a given pkg?
[03:19] <RAOF> You mean, package in Ubuntu?  Not particularly easily, no.
[03:19] <maek> RAOF: ok thanks
[03:19] <RAOF> You can go to the source package's page on launchpad, and go to the buildlog, and hunt for CFLAGS or whatever :)
[03:20] <maek> blah, awesome built, ill just assume cario has the proper things compiled in
[03:22] <RAOF> Quite likely.
[06:39] <Hew> When will http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ be updated to track the Jaunty development releases? There needs to be somewhere to point new testing users, rather than finding isos for them individually.
[10:27] <Vahids> i need a command for restart my pci card, without restart Computer
[10:27] <Vahids> ??
[10:27] <Vahids> is this exist ???
[13:51] <nblracer> howdy
[13:51] <BUGabundo_work> hi nblracer
[13:51] <nblracer> looking for some/advices
[13:51] <BUGabundo_work> shoot
[13:52] <nblracer> my mobo just died, i was using a raid 0 array
[13:52] <nblracer> i can not find a replacment motherboard
[13:52] <nblracer> with the same raid controllor
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> ah ah
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> so?
[13:53] <nblracer> can i use mdadm to rebuild it?
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> I don't know!
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> raid aint my field
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> you are better trying for help at #ubuntu-server
[13:54] <nblracer> will try
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> okay
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> let us know how it when
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> I'm always curious to learn a bit more
[13:55] <nblracer> rgr
[13:55] <nblracer> when i mount a drives does it write at all to the drive
[13:56] <nblracer> and is there a way to mount a drive in like a read only state
[14:00] <Hew> nblracer: you can mount read-only with the -r option for mount, see man mount
[14:01] <nblracer> thanks
[14:02] <nblracer> thats should help, this away i can mess around a bit with out the drives getting screwed up
[14:03] <nblracer> hew, but doesn't ubuntu auto mount drives at start up?
[14:03] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[14:03] <BUGabundo_work> won't mounting both disk separeted be of no used?
[14:04] <nblracer> yes
[14:04] <BUGabundo_work> I don't think it automounts RAID volumes
[14:04] <nblracer> but im going to play around with mdadm
[14:04] <Hew> nblracer: "auto mount" is performed based on your /etc/fstab, make sure you remove/comment out relevant lines
[14:04] <nblracer> it is a softweare base raid system
[14:04] <BUGabundo_work> but were the disks in strip or mirror?
[14:04] <Hew> nblracer: and if you're trying to recover a RAID 0 array, I wouldn't be mounting them until you have the right controller
[14:04] <nblracer> strip
[14:05] <BUGabundo_work> yeah for strip you will need MD working
[14:05] <BUGabundo_work> nothing yet on #u-server?
[14:05] <nblracer> i was going to use software raid, i cant find the same mobo oir even one close whith the correct chip
[14:05] <nblracer> no
[14:06]  * Hew is pleased he has got over RAID :P
[14:06] <nblracer> and really it not a ubuntu question, i just know there is always smart people in here
[14:07] <nblracer> but you think that will work hew? has anyone done this before
[14:07] <BUGabundo_work> I tried it once
[14:08] <BUGabundo_work> after using clonezilla to backup 2 striped disks
[14:08] <BUGabundo_work> but never manage to make it work again
[14:08] <Hew> nblracer: Done what? I don't have experience with software RAID. If the question is you have an array created with a hardware controller and you want to recover it with a software controller, then I think the answer is no.
[14:09] <Hew> nblracer: Do you have a backup of the data, or is it your only copy?
[14:09] <nblracer> my back up server, was not correctly synced up
[14:10] <nblracer> so no
[14:10] <nblracer> :(
[14:11] <Hew> nblracer: I think the only solution is to find the same hardware controller, unfortunately
[14:13] <Hew> Personally, this is why I avoid RAID. The risks and consequences outweigh the benefits, at least for me.
[14:14] <nblracer> this happen last weekend, and i have been searching the net
[14:15] <nblracer> i only found one replacement m0bo and they are charging 2X as much as i paid for it 7 years
[14:16] <nblracer> i think my next machine will be a raid5, or raid0 again just with OS and software, no personal data
[14:17] <nblracer> i realy like the faster read and write speeds it made all the difference for me
[14:17] <nblracer> specialty with video editing and capturing
[14:18] <BUGabundo_work> nblracer: humm SSD then?! lol
[14:20] <Hew> I can't wait until SSDs become mainstream :D
[14:20] <nblracer> i thought SSD would be faster then what they are
[14:21] <nblracer> if i remember right a WD raptor is faster then the average SSD
[14:24] <BUGabundo_work> come on!!! it's a raptor... LOL
[14:26] <nblracer> but it has moving parts ( well at 10,000 rpm) lol
[14:27] <loic-m> nblracer, don't give up on recovering your raid. It's not the same, but I remember 15 years ago when a distribution botched my mbr and overlaped to another partition on the hd, everybody on the net said it was impossible. I really needed the data, and eventually found the solution on an obscure page. Nowadays it's trivial, there's even programs to do that automagically. I would be surprised if some firms didn't offer the service for a cost, and of a
[14:27] <loic-m> firm can do it, anybody can do it.
[14:27] <loic-m> s/of a/if a
[14:28] <nblracer> thats what i say
[14:28] <loic-m> If you really need your raid now but can wait to recover the data, just a dd of the partitions and you'll try to recover that when you'll have a few hours/days to spend looking on the net
[14:28] <BUGabundo_work> as long as you have the data
[14:28] <nblracer> but i went around to a few locol computer shopes for advice, and that was scary
[14:29] <BUGabundo_work> I guess you can use software to scrape it ...
[14:29] <loic-m> Never trust a computer shop.
[14:29] <BUGabundo_work> plus, most of them don't know GNU/Linux
[14:30] <nblracer> 1/2 don't know what a raid was, the other did not know the servirity of the problem, and thought i could connect to any raid controllor and that it will auto rebuild and work
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> well, they ARE trying to help
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[14:32] <loic-m> The other solution is to find a friend with the same controller, or if you're desesperate by the mobo and resell it (or send it back if you can, but that's borderline)
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> I would dd the disk to images, make an extra set of backups, and start trying to scrape the data!
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> I have no idea, but can MD even be used to mount that=
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> ?
[14:34] <nblracer> to me there is something wrong with me paying $450 for a 7 yeat old mobo, for a computer i'm ready to replaces
[14:34] <loic-m> how can a mobo cost that much? It's dual socket?
[14:34] <nblracer> no
[14:35] <nblracer> i paid 200 for it new
[14:35] <nblracer> it is a asus p4t533
[14:35] <nblracer> has rdram though
[14:36] <loic-m> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ASUS-P4T533-C-Motherboard-850e-SOCKET-478-FSB533-400_W0QQitemZ180309865342QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item180309865342&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
[14:36] <nblracer> not c
[14:36] <nblracer> c has no raid on it
[14:39]  * genii sips and thinks about RamBus
[14:40] <nblracer> rambus sucks
[14:40] <nblracer> worst move i made in building this system
[14:41] <loic-m> is the southbridge responsible for the raid, or is it a special chipset?
[14:41] <nblracer> or it was way ahaed of it time
[14:41] <nblracer> spechail chip
[14:41] <nblracer> promise pdc20276
[14:42] <nblracer> do you think this will help?
[14:42] <nblracer> http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Permute_array.pl
[14:42] <loic-m> as said, people on a -server ml (even generic, or linux related) would know better, but possibly contacting asus or the raid chipset maker would tell you if some newer chipsets are bw compatible
[14:44] <nblracer> i called asus and they said my best luck would to find a replacment mobo
[14:45] <loic-m> I don't have a clue. I don't know perl, and never had to use a raid. It seems more for people that forgot how their raid was assembled, I expect you remember that (especialy with only two drives)
[14:45] <loic-m> they didn't try really hard...
[14:45] <nblracer> but i will call promise now
[14:46] <nblracer> well in building this array, i only had three options AV, desktop, server
[14:46] <loic-m> Email them. You never get anybody on a phone.
[14:47] <loic-m> they must have documented what it translates to in raid terms, and they'll know if they use the same on newer chips.
[14:49] <nblracer> or tell me the strip sizes and offsets if any
[14:52] <nblracer> blah to early
[14:52] <nblracer> got to wait a few hours
[14:58] <nblracer> this looks hopefull http://man-wiki.net/index.php/8:mdadm#ASSEMBLE_MODE
[14:59] <nblracer> I realy should DD a copy  but dont have a big enough harddrive laying around
[15:01] <BUGabundo_work> time to spend some money in buying one?
[15:01] <BUGabundo_work> clonezilla does a great job compressing them
[15:03] <loic-m> mdadm seems limited to software raid, so I don't know. A DD depends on the value of what you have - if it represents years of work, it's worth it, considering since it will be your first time attempting that there's good chances you'll mess up at least part of it.
[15:04] <loic-m> http://recovery-review.com/unformat-tools/diskinternals-raid-recovery.html shows that it's possible even for hw raid, you only have to learn how to do that with Linux. Then write a good howto on ubuntu wiki...
[15:06] <nblracer> could i buy a huge drive, partion it in 3 places. one for drive a, another drive B, and the third  is where i can try to merge A and B
[15:09] <nblracer> here is another revovery tool
[15:09] <nblracer> http://www.runtime.org/raid.htm
[15:09] <nblracer> only they were open source....
[15:11] <loic-m> I think with a third disk, you just plug your two disks that were in the raid, but plug them as individual disks, mount them read-only and use a software to recover the data.
[15:12] <nblracer> so do DD each drive that was on the raid
[15:12] <nblracer> `````````````````woops
[15:13] <nblracer> dont i ment to say
[15:16] <loic-m> With a third disk, no DD is necessary, but you need a program that will try to recover the data. DD is only good if you want to reuse the two drives immediatly and save the data recovery for latter
[15:18] <loic-m> but you should also definitely try with promise to see if their dedicated raid cards could do the job - that way you keep using the same raid without modifications (even though I'd rather run software raid than hw)
[17:22] <nblracer> loic-m: just got of the phone with promise
[17:39] <loic-m> and?
[17:42] <nblracer> get there raid controllor
[17:42] <nblracer> it should work
[17:43] <nblracer> he said it might be possable to do it with softweare, but it not worth the time
[17:47] <loic-m> it's worth the time if you can make it your job ;) or if you want to document it for others. But (even though I'd like to see a good howto for Linux) getting a controller is cheap, and you can reuse it on a new computer. Nice to know it's compatible, I can't remember the number of time I hear of people with hw raid that go and track an identical mb for a high cost.
[17:48] <nblracer> only problem is he sugested one that was ata133 and another that was ata100
[17:49] <nblracer> he thought what i had was ata100, but i just looked in The Man. it is ata133
[17:50] <nblracer> should i pay the extra money for ata133? i know my drives support it
[18:02] <loic-m> that's up to you. I've gone sata looong ago and wouldn't want to switch back. For someone that bought a RAMBUS mb, you seem to chose your technology wisely ;)
[18:06] <loic-m> btw, a recent sata hd would output over 100MB/s on a first partition that would match the size of your raid, all with an access time that could be close to half your average. Get your data out the cheapest way possible, and with the savings get a good sata drive.
[18:16] <nblracer> i agree
[18:16] <nblracer> i just a referbished ata133 one
[18:16] <nblracer> get my data back, and build a new rig with the core I7
[19:40] <nblracer> what is a good recomended softweare to play music and videio from my ipod in ubuntu
[19:41] <nblracer> gtkpod? or is there a better plugin for Rhythmbox?
[19:45] <ikonia> !offtopic
[22:34] <Spencerical> is there a name for Ubuntu I.+? I.+? Yet?
[22:34] <Spencerical> sorry k
[22:35] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: Are you asking about Intrepid + 1 name?
[22:35] <admin_masu3701> hello
[22:35] <charlie-tca> hello
[22:35] <admin_masu3701> i install dual boot ubuntu and windowns
[22:36] <Spencerical> charlie-tca, no, Jaunty +1
[22:36] <admin_masu3701> when i boot into windowns it wont boot all the way
[22:36] <admin_masu3701> it stop at some point and say need to restor system
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: I don´t think it has been selected yet. Don't they decide during UDS?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> admin_masu3701: What point did it stop? did it get to the login window? Did you see the splash screen?
[22:37] <Spencerical> charlie-tca: I wouldn't know...
[22:38] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: me too. I just do not think they picked it yet.
[22:38] <Spencerical> ok
[22:41] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: no it didnt get to the login
[22:41] <charlie-tca> Was this the first boot after installation?
[22:41] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: it stops just before that and say Recovery center
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> says: Choose a program
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> Windows system Restore
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> hardware diagnosics
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> Restore C: Drive
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> REscue Data
[22:43] <charlie-tca> What is the last thing you did to the system? Is this right after installing Ubuntu?
[22:44] <admin_masu3701> after install in did a sudo /atc/grub/boot/menu... and # commented out stuff that i didnt want to appear
[22:45] <admin_masu3701> just left ubuntun and windows
[22:46] <charlie-tca> I think you should comment it back and see if it will boot windows.
[22:46] <admin_masu3701> ok
[22:46] <admin_masu3701> let me try
[23:07] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: i did uncommanded thm out but still facing the same issue
[23:11] <charlie-tca> Maybe one of these will help. I have not run windows since 3.1 myself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[23:19] <admin_masu3701> i cant play vedeos on youtube says i need to install flash
[23:19] <admin_masu3701> can somone tell me how to install flash on ubuntu?
[23:24] <Frijolie> i've got a broken package on Jaunty and I can't seem to get it fixed...
[23:24] <Frijolie> any suggestions?
[23:27] <admin_masu3701> can play videos..do anyone know what i need to do?
[23:33] <admin_masu3701> cant play vidoes on youtube..do anybody know what the problem may be?
[23:37] <Frijolie> may not have flash installed?
[23:38] <admin_masu3701> Frijolie: how to i install it?
[23:39] <Frijolie> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[23:45] <admin_masu3701> Frijolie: i run into an erro message
[23:59] <nikolam> admin_masu3701, 32bit or 64bit? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772490


[04:53] <bazhang> srp_, hi
[06:54] <pangolin> !crosspost > computer_
[07:34] <Tm_T> ubottu: ping
[07:34] <Tm_T> ...ubottu doesn't answer to me in PM
[07:40] <Unit193> Did you still use !?
[07:41] <Tm_T> Unit193: yes and no, and no it shouldn't matter
[07:41] <Tm_T> or maybe I'm just too old to figure out what am I doing in overall (;
[09:59] <Tm_T> srp_: hi, how can we help you today?
[09:59] <AlanBell> morning srp_
[10:07] <ikonia> he knows what he's doing
[10:08] <ikonia> if he doesn't speak the next time he joins I'm going to change it from a ban to a ban forward
[10:08] <ikonia> oops
[10:08] <ikonia> other way around
[11:17] <Silverlion> hi srp_ how could we help you?
[11:18] <topyli> beyond help, i'm afraid
[11:18] <ikonia> I'll just change it to a straight ban
[13:13] <Pici> These aren't the lists you're looking for.
[13:16] <ikonia> ha
 shaneo, the external injection is behind c++ where as C sharp is usually sharper than a plus sign. Obviously
[15:05] <bazhang> some kind of bot?
[15:06] <ikonia> just an idiot
[15:14] <bazhang> ssh through the terminal? is that not redundant?
[15:15] <ikonia> it's the only way to use ssh....through a terminal
[15:15] <bazhang> no idea what freewayzifi is talking about then
[15:15] <ikonia> no, I don't think he does at this moment
[15:16] <Pici> Well, theres scp, and sftp, and sshfs, which don't necessarily need the terminal.
[15:16] <bazhang> seems to be just talking nonsense
[15:16] <ikonia> Pici: I guess it depends on the context, "putty" isn't a terminal, but it does run within a terminal environment
[15:16] <Pici> aye
[15:57] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[15:57] <bazhang> * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to ElitestFX
[15:57] <bazhang> was that a response to !beer ?
[15:58] <Myrtti> yeah
[15:58] <Myrtti> I noticed it yesterday
[16:29] <bazhang> is it #ubuntu-411 today ?
[16:30] <pangolin> seems like it
[16:30] <bazhang> centos/asterisk   alabama tz, what next
[16:34] <pangolin> seriously...system admins who can't figure out what city to use for tz :/
[16:35] <bazhang> oy vey
[17:07] <oCean> ppa mess :(
[17:07] <ikonia> you could see that was coming
[17:07] <ikonia> "I don't know what I'm doing how do I add a PPA I don't know if I want"
[17:07] <ikonia> someone helped him add it, he installed stuff
[17:08] <ikonia> "how do I remove a PPA"
[17:08] <ikonia> I could see it coming a mile off
[17:08] <ikonia> we need to do something better with PPA's not the technology but how we actually provide support in #ubuntu
[17:09]  * Myrtti goes to pull cables from freenode servers
[17:09] <Myrtti> shutting down network in 3... 2...
[17:09] <popey> why not tell him how to remove the ppa?
[17:09] <ikonia> that works
[17:09] <oCean> am i still connected?
[17:09] <ikonia> popey: he's being told
[17:09] <Tm_T> oCean: no you're not
[17:09] <ikonia> however if it's already downloaded stuff.....it may be a mess again to clear up
[17:09] <ikonia> depending on what's been downloaded
[17:09] <Tm_T> ikonia: indeed
[17:10] <popey> not really
[17:10] <popey> ppa-purge works very well
[17:10] <popey> reverting back to the previous state
[17:10] <ikonia> sorry, I don't believe it does
[17:10] <ikonia> I'm sure it does in some situations
[17:10] <popey> i believe it does because I use it every day

[17:10] <ikonia> a well maintained repo
[17:10] <ikonia> I watch people use it and it doesn't work, I've tried it as a test with some crappy repos and it's failed
[17:11] <ikonia> popey: I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to look at a way we can perhaps help someone/people in general a little better
[17:11] <Tm_T> popey: hmmm, just the other day a guy had his system in a bad state after doing ppa-purge (:
[17:11] <Tm_T> I wonder what he had done with it to get it like that though
[17:11] <ikonia> try to steer people from pushing the PPA as a first choice, or try to teach people how to evaluate the risks of the PPA they are offering to people
[17:11] <ikonia> that sort of thing
[17:11] <Tm_T> ikonia: sounds good
[17:11] <ikonia> I just don't know how to go about it
[17:12] <ikonia> it's pie in the sky talk at this moment
[17:13] <oCean> Well, we've tried to word it in the SupportersGuide (Do recommend software sources in a logical order) but that part still needs better phrasing I think
[17:13] <ikonia> the supporters guide is pretty soild in my view
[17:13] <ikonia> I just can't think of a method to get people to evalute the real need of the user and if a PPA is the best solution, and if it is is that PPA a "good" one
[17:40] <ikonia> can someone please translate !list into good Italian, I've never seen a non-italian ask for it
[17:41] <Pici> LjL would be the best person for that.
[17:42] <oCean> in #debian the answer is "vattene via"
[17:42] <pangolin> I don't think it is a good idea to single out a specific language
[17:42] <pangolin> Would send the wrong message IMO
[17:42] <pangolin> I believe LjL would agree
[17:43] <ikonia> this is it ???
[17:43] <ikonia> it's mental
[17:43] <ikonia> it's ONLY italians who do this
[17:43] <ikonia> yet we can't put it into italian because it's singling people otu
[17:43] <ikonia> it is that nationality that's doing it though ???
[17:43] <ikonia> I have never seen anyone from a non .it ip use !list
[17:44] <pangolin> I don't feel that translating it to Italian will help diminish the amount of !list the channel gets
[17:44] <ikonia> no, but it may make it clear that it's not a warez channel
[17:44] <pangolin> and it sends the message that Ubuntu thinks all Italians are warez hunters.
[17:45] <ikonia> no problem, lets just ignore the reality of who's doing it
[17:45] <pangolin> not ignoring it but why single them out.
[17:45] <ikonia> why not send testicular cancer information to women too....lets not single out the men
[17:45] <pangolin> it won't stop them.
[17:45] <ikonia> no, but it may get the message across, first time clearly that it's not a warez channel
[17:45] <popey> i dont think it would help at all
[17:45] <pangolin> to that single user maybe
[17:46] <ikonia> fine, leave it then
[17:46] <popey> the poeple who come in arrive, do !list and leave
[17:46] <popey> they dont come back, they don't run ubuntu
[17:46] <ikonia> or do it 10 times and end up getting kicked
[17:46] <popey> nobody ever learns from it
[17:46] <ikonia> lets remove the list factoid then
[17:46] <ikonia> it's a large one that floods
[17:46] <pangolin> black or white.
[17:47] <ikonia> not really a suggestion
[17:47] <ikonia> if the !list factoid doesn't provide much use, lets get rid of it
[17:47] <ikonia> if you think it does, leave it alone
[17:47] <pangolin> the factoid is useful but not for stopping the problem
[17:47] <ikonia> in what way is it useful ?
[17:47] <ikonia> !list
[17:47] <ikonia> (let me re-read it)
[17:48] <pangolin> it tells the user that we don't do warez.
[17:48] <pangolin> but it can't tell stop the problem because not every single person looking for warez is there to read it.
[17:48] <ikonia> so telling them clearly in their native language is not of value
[17:48] <popey> we get people doing !list on channels on lots of networks, they just go for which ever channel has most people in it
 i love ubuntu... but i really wish it were compatible with the internet
[17:49] <ikonia> I agree, I don't think you can "stop it"
[17:49] <ikonia> I was just suggesting changing it to italian as it is always italian ip's / speakers doing it
[17:49] <ikonia> get the message across clear
[17:49] <ikonia> if there is no value in it, leave it alone
[17:50] <pangolin> the message is clear, even if they can't read it in English. the trigger gives them a output that is not expected and they get the picture, some are a little slower at getting "it"
[17:50] <Tm_T> ikonia: I'm unsure how it is not getting the message actoss clear now
[17:50] <ikonia> Tm_T: then leave it
[17:51] <ikonia> I didn't think it got the message across as you often see people just doing !list sleep 10 !list, sleep 10
[17:51] <ikonia> but if you're happy it's clear, just leave it be
[17:51] <bazhang> do we need a factoid for the supportersguide?
[17:52] <Tm_T> ikonia: if we remove the factoid, people ask "what is the command to get the file list" (yes, seen it happening before we had this factoid)
[17:52] <ikonia> Tm_T: I'm sure
[17:52] <Tm_T> ikonia: but what I do think, the factoid is not only for those who do call !list, but also others who see it, so they know what it's about and don't try fishing it
[17:52] <oCean> bazhang: I think so
[17:53] <ikonia> great, so leave it
[17:54] <Tm_T> ikonia: I do believe we can improve it yet (:
[17:55] <ikonia> if it's fine, leave it, I only said get rid of it, because it was said no-one reads it
[17:55] <ikonia> I didn't see the point of having it hit a long worded factoid if no-one read it
[17:55] <Tm_T> heh, I think it's bit too lenghty
[17:55] <bazhang> oCean, okay
[17:55] <oCean> bazhang: try to reason with him in pm
[17:56] <oCean> I will*
[17:56] <ikonia> he's been spoken to a few times before
[17:56] <ikonia> hence why I'm tried of it
[17:56] <bazhang> so when  people are suggesting some 3rd party stuff, we can !guide
[17:57] <bazhang> oCean, ah whoops I've got a PM open with him as well
[17:57] <ikonia> ughghh
[17:57] <Tm_T> bazhang: no, that would be abusing supportguidelines if you ask me
[17:57] <ikonia> I don't think we should hit people with !read a guide if they suggest 3rd party stuff
[17:57] <Tm_T> ^
[17:57] <ikonia> it's just going to be !guide !guide !guide !guide
[17:57] <bazhang> then in the topic?
[17:57] <Pici> !guide is the server guide.
[17:57] <LjL> ikonia, pangolin, Pici: i've talked to italian ops about this before, they wouldn't be pleased with it being in italian, just as they're not pleased with people redirecting !list'ers to -it (which is what prompted me to talk to them about it). and i agree with them. "No warez" is perfectly understandable for an italian anyway.
[17:57] <Pici> yes, I just said that ubottu.
[17:58] <pangolin> in the topic and we can actively link it to the helpers we know will benefit from it
[17:58] <Tm_T> LjL: I agree
[17:59] <ikonia> LjL: fair enough (never seen anyone push them to -it before)
[20:21] <oCean> I think !list should say "Please tell us why you thought this channel has downloads, and receive a FREE download @ ubuntu.com!"
[20:22] <LjL> sometimes i want to message them and ask, but then i'm scared they'll just go all ASL
[20:22] <knome> LjL, ask what? a/s/l ? :P
[20:22] <oCean> I don't even expect an answer at all
[20:23] <LjL> knome: ask why they think the channel features downloading warez
[21:48] <mneptok>  /join #elpaso
[21:48] <mneptok> oops, wanted #juarez
[21:55] <trevor69420> can i please be -q in ubuntu
[21:55] <trevor69420> #ubuntu*
[22:00] <mneptok> @login
[22:00] <mneptok> trevor69420: stand by, please.
[22:01] <trevor69420> standing by
[22:03] <mneptok> trevor69420: twice in as many days you have been removed from #ubuntu for being offtopic.
[22:03] <trevor69420> really? today was the first time that i am aware of
[22:04] <trevor69420> unless i am missing something
[22:04] <mneptok> trevor69420: yesterday you were kicked from the channel by ikonia for discussing a troll that said they would hack people using their Windows computer.
[22:04] <mneptok> troll. do not respond.
[22:05] <trevor69420> oh i guess i remember that...
[22:05] <mneptok> !guidelines
[22:05] <trevor69420> then i wrote +b to have him banned
[22:05] <mneptok> read those. takes 3m or so if English is your first language.
[22:06] <trevor69420> i'm familiar with the guidelines i've been in ubuntu for nearly a little over 5 years (granted under a few nicks)
[22:06] <trevor69420> but i wil l refresh myself
[22:06] <mneptok> trevor69420: you know that door down the hall to #ubuntu-offtopic i'm sure.
[22:07] <mneptok> trevor69420: give or receieve support is the only time to focus IRC on #ubuntu. put something else on auto-join to socialize. WFM.
[22:08] <mneptok> you can also "receive" support. hopefully from a typist.
[22:08] <trevor69420> yes i do..... and always in there... i guess my main concern is that the reason why i was kicked this time was they said i was off topic when someone else replied the exact same thing to someone's question and he didnt get warned or kicked or anything, but whatever i guess the ops can pick and choose
[22:09] <trevor69420> well not the exact same thing but along the lines
[22:09]  * mneptok summons bazhang
[22:09] <pangolin> the reason for your kick was because you had already been warned earlier.
[22:09] <trevor69420> and i was in the middle of typing the answer to his question when i was removed
[22:10] <mneptok> trevor69420: try the same approach in a 3-car drag race that's pursued by a single police officer.
[22:11] <mneptok> trevor69420: "they did it, too!" is not the place you want to go in that situation. or this.
[22:12] <trevor69420> ok from now on i will just remain a robot and just spit out answers to problems instead of lightening the  mood my fault to think that would be acceptable
[22:13] <trevor69420> drag racing isnt a good analogy since drag racing is dangerous but i see your point you want to keep everything strictly business
[22:13] <mneptok> trevor69420: i think the bigger problem you had was a distinct lack of contrition. and i don;t think that problem has been resolved.
[22:14] <pangolin> trevor69420: imagine if 400 people are all trying to lighten the mood, how do you think that would affect the support being given/received in the channel
[22:18] <trevor69420> nvm... i'll get in another way i got 7 Class A IP ranges to work with so it doesnt really matter but i'm not gonna be remorseful over saying what i said considering it seemed to be acceptable for other users to say it, and i feel i do offer alot of support to the channel and that should count towards something...  you guys cna pick and choose who you want to enforce with your rules all you want...
[22:18] <trevor69420> good day
[22:19] <mneptok> ban evasion is against Freenode policy.
[22:19] <trevor69420> ok...
[22:19] <mneptok> The More You Know ....
[22:19] <trevor69420> good luck finding me
[22:19]  * mneptok is not Freenode staff
[22:20] <mneptok> so good luck maintaining my interest.
[22:20] <pangolin> trevor69420: a moment
[22:20] <pangolin> trevor69420: We are not asking you to apologize. just want you to agree to follow the channel guidelines to help keep the channel helpful.
[22:21] <pangolin> If you are willing to agree to that I am willing to let you back in #ubuntu
[22:27] <pangolin> I guess not.
[22:29] <trevor69420> i'll agree if you guys agree to equally enforce the rules to all people... but when there are a number of people all talking off topic and i make one remark that is, respectifully,  in my opinion a gray area (seeing as it was in response to a ubuntu question, whereas others where answering questions that had nothing to do with ubuntu ehem... android amongst a debian question or two, and they werent warned or anything).  I have no issues providing
[22:29] <trevor69420> support but if you want to micromanage the channel micomanage it for everyone equally...
[22:30] <ikonia> trevor69420: nah - it's not a I'll agree if you agree type of deal
[22:30] <ikonia> here are the rules - if you don't like them - don't use the channel
[22:30] <ikonia> tried of trying to negotiate with you
[22:30] <trevor69420> but it doesnt matter what you guys decide... i'll let you know when I see one that is off topic that doesnt get enforced and i'll message you
[22:31] <ikonia> trevor69420: you can ask someone your self
[22:31] <ikonia> "hi, any chance you can move the offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic"
[22:31] <ikonia> really easy
[22:34] <Jordan_U> trevor69420: We do try to enforce rules reasonably and equally, but we're not always watching the channel, we may miss things, and we may disagree with you (and sometimes among each other) about what warrants a kick/ban. (and not all actions by ops need to be kicks/bans, most times we start with a comment like you can make as ikonia gave an example of).
[22:34] <pangolin> trevor69420: it appears we disagree. I'm afraid the ban will remain.
[22:36] <trevor69420> ok...
[22:37] <pangolin> Please part the channel if there is nothing else.
[22:37] <pangolin> trevor69420: you are welcome to return and try to resolve this later.


[02:28] <paultag> mhall119: Pending release, but https://github.com/sunlightlabs/python-sunlight
[02:28] <paultag> mhall119: if you're still interested in doing a lens, there's a ton of awesome data
[02:28] <paultag> mhall119: and I know for a fact you'll get some love for doing it
[02:29] <paultag> (and I'll help)
[02:29] <pleia2> paultag: I am sick (complete with a fever!), I'll touch base with you once I feel better :)
[02:30] <paultag> pleia2: no problem!!!! :)
[02:30] <paultag> pleia2: feel better :)
[02:30] <pleia2> "hi, I can help you with a thing" *disappears for days*
[02:30] <pleia2> :)
[02:30] <paultag> pleia2: Oh P.S. - I'll be @ PyCon this year
[02:30] <pleia2> cool, where is it?
[02:30] <paultag> pleia2: so I'll be around your neck of the woods again, it's in Santa Clara
[02:30] <pleia2> woohoo
[02:30] <paultag> I'll be there for 5 days :)
[02:30] <pleia2> maybe I will be home AND able to speak!
[02:30] <paultag> pleia2: :)
[02:31] <pleia2> oh good, march, I should see if my boss will let me free for a day to go to at least one day
[02:31] <paultag> pleia2: you totally should! We can get an Ubuncrew together :)
[02:31] <paultag> pleia2: I think doctormo's trying to go
[02:31] <paultag> and DarkwingDuck said he'd be there
[02:32] <pleia2> ooh, maybe I can go to the tutorial days
[02:32] <pleia2> (I will totally noob it out in intro to python)
[02:32] <paultag> pleia2: Ah, shucks, I'm only going for the conf days and the 4 hackathon days
[02:32] <paultag> pleia2: but you should totally do that, they all look awesome
[02:32]  * nigelb hugs pleia2
[02:32] <nigelb> pleia2: feeling any better?
[02:32]  * pleia2 hugs nigelb
[02:32] <pleia2> a little, mostly laying in bed got boring :)
[02:32] <nigelb> heh
[02:33] <pleia2> paultag: when are you flying in?
[02:33] <paultag> pleia2: I don't think my flight got booked yet (sunlight's sending me out (I have a conf-budget, as well as hackathon budgets)), but it should be either the day of or day before PyCon's main event day 0 (post tutorial)
[02:34] <pleia2> oooh, intro to django
[02:34] <pleia2> ah ok
[02:36] <nigelb> I wish I could be at pycon.
[02:36] <nigelb> The talks look so interesting.
[02:41] <paultag> nigelb: you've got a while to work out deets
[13:54] <mhall119> paultag: awesome!  I'm in the middle of upgrading Singlet for precise, and expanding it's functionality, which should make your lens and scopes easier to write
[15:04] <AlanBell> !lococouncil hi if anyone could pop along to the IRCC meeting in -meeting in 3 hours that would be great to discuss the ubuntuusers.de proposal for a separate namespace
[15:04] <ubot4`> AlanBell: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:04] <AlanBell> !lococouncil
[15:04] <ubot4`> lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:09]  * popey stabs ubot4`
[15:11]  * popey pokes jpds with a stick
[15:14] <AlanBell> thought that was fixed
[15:16] <AlanBell> The Loco Council is cprofitt, czajkowski, greg-g, itnet7, SergioMeneses and xdatap1 - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:16] <AlanBell> I will do it myself if the bot won't :)
[16:28] <paultag> gah :)
[16:28] <paultag> mhall119: awesome, badass to hear


[11:19] <anes_> Hi friends , i try preseed using pinguy , but not working
[11:20] <anes_> my preseed is : http://pastie.org/10854841
[11:20] <anes_> i mean not taking it
[11:35] <Kilos> hi anes_
[11:35] <anes_> YES DEAR
[11:35] <anes_> Tell me any option
[11:36] <Kilos> hang around for the clever guys
[11:37] <anes_> yea, but no body have a solution
[11:37] <Kilos> zaki ^^
[11:38] <Kilos> just be patient anes_ they might be busy
[11:38] <anes_> hmm
[11:52] <Kilos> anes_ if you are in a hurry ask at #ubuntu
[11:52] <Kilos> but feel free to hang out here as well
[11:52] <anes_> but i am using pinguyos
[11:53] <anes_> they tell to ask ##linux lol
[11:53] <Kilos> i dont even know what that is
[11:53] <Kilos> lol
[11:54] <Kilos> keep your eyes open for pavlushka, he is very helpful
[11:56] <anes_> where I can contact him?
[11:57] <Kilos> he comes online daily here and #ubuntu-bd
[13:59] <rhct> hi
[13:59] <rhct> sup Dj
[13:59] <rhct> :)
[14:00] <rhct> oh my god
[14:00] <rhct> researcher here
[14:01] <rhct> hi sir
[14:49] <Kilos> hi rhct
[14:50] <Kilos> Dj has been quiet all day
[16:29] <Kilos> hi rhct
[16:34] <pavlushka> hello every one!
[16:34] <pavlushka> hello Kilos !
[16:34] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[16:37] <pavlushka> Sorry for not being available, just figured a workaround to work my modem, :p
[16:38] <Kilos> havent they fixed you connection yet?
[16:38] <pavlushka> nope, I am on alternative.
[16:39] <Kilos> they like here, not in a hurry to fix things
[16:40] <pavlushka> lol, the modems has some issue with linux 64 bit systems.
[16:40] <Kilos> oh my
[16:40] <Kilos> what kind of modem?
[16:40] <pavlushka> zte mf193e data-card
[16:41] <Kilos> plug in pci cards
[16:41] <Kilos> card
[16:42] <pavlushka> Kilos:  mine one is a usb modem, not working in my 64 bit, so I plugged it into the router, and its working now.
[16:43] <pavlushka> *my one
[16:43] <Kilos> have you googled it? i had one from saudi arabia once that gsm guys helped me sort out
[16:44] <pavlushka> I dont have oil, so the gsm guys might not help me, though I've forwarded a mail already, :p
[16:45] <Kilos> lol
[16:46] <Kilos> i just got an unlock code from gsm something or other and it works fine on all pcs
[16:46] <pavlushka> Kilos: your systems are 32 bit or 64 bit?
[16:47] <Kilos> both
[16:47] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj7j6672vrMAhWiJcAKHdUyCk4QFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2191715&usg=AFQjCNELIjn-D31F_EEDiRNkp4-WzFURag&sig2=ad6QLaEB7I7OEbOzLSlVUQ
[16:48] <Kilos> google this  -  zte mf193e not working on 64bit linux pc
[16:48] <Kilos> there are many pages you can check
[16:48] <pavlushka> in my home, I have both, the modem works fine with 16.04 (32 bit) but not with 64 bit, and I have done that googling part, but will do more later.
[16:49] <Kilos> good luck
[16:49] <pavlushka> thanks, much needed.
[16:51] <pavlushka> Dj, tussi kahan ho?
[16:52] <pavlushka> Dj wale babu mera gaana suna do, :p
[16:56] <pavlushka> And btw Kilos, the link you provided, there the help asker is from Bangladesh, :p
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:57] <pavlushka> I checked that an hour ago, will not help in my case.
[16:58] <Kilos> strange, i can use mine on 64bit and 32bit pcs
[16:59] <Kilos> just plug in and use network manager to see it and connect
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:01] <pavlushka> now I am online through that modem, so i dont want to unplug it right now, I have tried that Kilos , even used wvdial but it says invalid dial code though the code is correct.
[17:01] <Kilos> ouch
[17:02] <Kilos> there was another tool for problem modems, ill try remember what it was and tell you after eating
[17:02] <pavlushka> Ok Kilos, dont eat too much, otherwise it will give you a headache , :p
[17:02] <Kilos> sakis3g
[17:03] <pavlushka> copy that.
[17:33] <Kilos> power gone