[00:11] <SJ_Zero> Hi, all.
[00:11] <SJ_Zero> Has anyone here ever had the experience of Ubuntu working on their hardware but not Kubuntu, or vice versa?
[00:11] <SJ_Zero> I ask because I'm finding my KDE desktop works, but my Gnome doesn't, whether I install from CD or using apt-get.
[00:12] <SJ_Zero> Rather, the wireless networking.
[00:16] <lokpest_> hi, how do i conect to internet from the console, where I dont have access to knetworkmanager?
[00:16] <skierpage> My motherboard Ethernet died.  I disabled it in BIOS and added a Linksys thernet PCI card. Linux was still looking for eth0 and thought this was eth1 , so I removed the lines in /etc/udev/blahblah/persitent-net-rules.
[00:17] <moonraker> Is there a way to fix the kde4 kickoff menu.  Since the last update some menu's are currupted.
[00:17] <skierpage> Now the only Ethernet is eth0, but Kubuntu icon still shows Ethernet as unplugged and Unmanaged and Network Management disabled. ??!
[00:19] <moonraker> they work but there is a blue pipe looking grapic thing over some icons? hard to explain. some menu come up okay.  it's under the system menu selection.  Is there a way to just reinstall the kickoff menu? Thanks
[00:19] <skierpage> moonraker, I'm no expert, but maybe `kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental` ?  I added a desktop file and screwed around rerunning variations of that a few times
[00:19] <skierpage> moonraker, hmm if it's just graphic corruption then rebuilding isn't your problem.
[00:20] <moonraker> ever since todays's update. i'm running lucid.
[00:21] <skierpage> moonraker, do you mean Kickoff or the new KDE 4 Application Launcher?  I think the latter replaced the former.
[00:22] <moonraker> the new kde4 application launcher.
[00:22] <skierpage> moonraker, you could right-click on the bar, unlock widgets, then right-click on the K menu and choose "Remove this Application Launcher", then click  the peanut and choose "Add widgets" to add it back.  But you risk trashing the bar.
[00:23] <skierpage> moonraker, might be safer to right-click the desktop, add a new panel, and add Application Launcher in that and see if the second one does any better.
[00:25] <skierpage> lokpest_ , I wish I knew. nm-tool shows what NetworkManager has done, but I don't know how to force it to do something different from the command line.
[00:26] <lokpest_> Bah, anyone that can answer my noob question a bit up?
[00:27] <lokpest_> Oops :)
[00:28] <skierpage> moonraker, you can try dragging the "Application Launcher *Menu*" widget, it's plainer than App Launcher
[00:31] <Bsims> I am needing help tracking down why I can't renable system bell I modprobed pcspkr back in... this worked in Karmic any ideas
[00:31] <Bsims> kde system bell test does nothing... and its maximized in alsamixer, can't find it in pulse audio
[00:35] <Bsims> wierd beep works but irssi isn't beeping nor is vim
[00:49] <Bsims> I got my pcspeaker to work had to remove pulseaudio-module-x11
[00:53] <NotWired> can anyone recommend a good usenet news reader for kubuntu?
[00:53] <Bsims> NotWired: Pan
[00:53] <NotWired> Bsims: thank you... are those packages included in kubuntu?
[00:54] <NotWired> nm, i found it
[00:54] <aperson> NotWired, it's not exactly hard to check
[00:54] <NotWired> thanks again
[00:55] <NotWired> aperson: i couldn't find it using the package management
[00:55] <NotWired> but installing it from cmd line now
[00:57] <Bsims> NotWired: nope but get them through Universe
[00:57] <Bsims> Pan is GTK based but its a best of breed software
[00:58] <NotWired> Bsims: cheers, i appreciate it
[00:58] <Bsims> Hrm how to change how long a notification stays on your screen
[01:25] <cuznt> ii type in sudo unmount /dev/scd0 and get sudo: unmount: command not found
[01:25] <Typos_King> umount
[01:26] <Typos_King> and usually you umount the mounted point/folder -> sudo umount /media/mycd
[01:28] <cuznt> perfect tyvm  Typos_King
[01:32] <rellis__> Hi everyone. I have an ATT 3G (Sierra Wireless USBconnect Mercury) card that worked fine under Kubuntu 9.10. Now when I plug the card in the OS recognizes it and I see it listed under the wireless icon in the system tray as "WWLAN". I can also edit the connection configuration successfully. However it never actually attempts the connection. If I right click and lcick on "WWLAN" manually nothing happens either. Any ideas? Is knetworkmanager just
[01:32] <rellis__> vicously buggy in this way?
[01:32] <rellis__> oh I forgot to say I just upgrade from Kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04
[01:33] <rellis__> The nm-tool command recxognizes and displays the ocnnection as well.
[01:33] <moonraker> thaks for the help.  I got it by reinstalling the kde4 widgets. strange how the start or kick off launcher got currupted.
[01:33] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:33] <Typos_King> rellis__:   can you connect with nm-tool?   did you mean nm-applet?
[01:34] <rellis__> no, nm-tool only prints the status retrieved from NetworkManager
[01:34] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:34] <Typos_King> well
[01:34] <rellis__> i can not under any circumstance get NetworkManager or the gui applet controlling it to attempt the ocnnection.
[01:35] <Typos_King> I don't use knetworkmanager for one, which is what I think you're referring to, the icon on the tray, I use nm-applet, which you can install with -> sudo apt-get network-manager-gnome;   is not big either :)
[01:35] <moonraker> I run my ubuntu on a proliant server.. Runs awsome.. eaiser then gentoo.. If anyine has screen resolution problems.. ie stuck in 800x600 my slution was a newer monitor. problem fixed itself.. I am very happy how it runs now.
[01:36] <rellis__> Typos_King: Yes I'm aware what it is. That's a pretty lame-hack-workaround though =/
[01:36] <Typos_King> but I'd think you just haven't got an entry for an access point for WWLAN to connect to, and in knetworkmanager that's usually done by doing a quick scan and picking one and such
[01:36] <rellis__> Typos_King: Either the 3G support in knetworkmanager should work or it should be a listed bug.
[01:36] <Typos_King> rellis__:    I'd not call it a hack, is just a better manager to be fair
[01:37] <rellis__> It's a hack because it's not KDE native.
[01:37] <rellis__> uses GTK libs
[01:37] <Typos_King> tbh, knetworkmanager isn't that great, sorry to break it to you
[01:37] <Typos_King> most other apps are, reason why I use kde :)
[01:38] <rellis__> eh i wouldnt say it's not that great
[01:38] <rellis__> probably just need ot understand it...
[01:38] <moonraker> This new kde4 is awsome.  I was long time fan of gentoo. but since i started using ubuntu.. i'm impressed.
[01:38] <BluesKaj> rellis__, not a hack , gtk runs perfectly fine in a kde environment , some gnome apps are better than their kde equivalents .
[01:39] <rellis__> definitely a hack..
[01:39] <rellis__> but label it as you like
[01:39] <Typos_King> hehh
[01:39] <Typos_King> talk about fan
[01:39] <BluesKaj> uhhmm, who's labelling here ?
[01:39] <Typos_King> atic
[01:39] <Typos_King> ^_^
[01:40] <BluesKaj> I luv kde but the knetwork manager is really flaky
[01:40] <Typos_King> yeah, agree on that
[01:41] <Typos_King> to be honest, even the one from 7.1 worked better for me than the one in 9.1, they kinda messed it more in kde4
[01:41] <BluesKaj> prefer wicd but I'm not wifi-ing so network/interfaces works fine on eth0
[01:41] <LuisJa> knetwork Manager suddenly stopped working in my Kubuntu laptop. I give thanks I have 2 laptops... I cannot connect not even to wired or wireless. Whats this bug? I need urgent help please
[01:42] <Typos_King> LuisJa:     my advice for now will be,install network-manager-gnome :), knetworkmanager isn't that great, one of the few apps that aren't as good in kde4
[01:42] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, which kubuntu version ?
[01:43] <Typos_King> :P~
[01:43] <BluesKaj> Typos_King, odd tho NM wifi works fine on my laptop
[01:44] <Typos_King> well
[01:44] <BluesKaj> on lucid
[01:44] <Typos_King> it does work for me too, knetworkmanager, is just flaky and gives me no stats on the signal either
[01:46] <BluesKaj> Typos_King, what I meant was NM didn't work til lucid was installed ...had to wicd up to that point
[01:46] <LuisJa> Typos_King: I cant install anything dude... I dont have internet in the computer, not matter how much times I reboot, knetwork manager is "blocked", please people I need help
[01:46] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:47] <LuisJa> haha
[01:47] <LuisJa> lets talk here dude, its kubuntu anyway
[01:47] <LuisJa> BluesKaj: 10.04
[01:47] <LuisJa> I am talking from Mirc windows lol
[01:48] <Typos_King> ok
[01:48] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:48] <LuisJa> So... I download the deb
[01:48] <Typos_King> ...
[01:48] <LuisJa> from this laptop and then install it in Kubuntu
[01:48] <Typos_King> are you on . 9.1?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, so download wicd to the pc you are on right now and copy to a flash drive , then install it on kubuntu
[01:48] <LuisJa> 10.04
[01:48] <Typos_King> wicd I think installs by default in 9.1, not sure
[01:48] <BluesKaj> no
[01:49] <LuisJa> its pretty rare, knetwork simply suddenly stoped working
[01:49] <Typos_King> k
[01:49] <BluesKaj> NM does
[01:49] <LuisJa> suddenl*
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !wicd
[01:49] <LuisJa> what is wicd
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[01:51] <LuisJa> Wicd or Network Manager gnome? Lol
[01:51] <Typos_King> well..... I use the latter :)
[01:51] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, NM gnome might be ok
[01:51] <Typos_King> ...
[01:52] <Typos_King> LuisJa:   how do you plan to get it using mirc?
[01:52] <Typos_King> if I may ask :)
[01:52] <LuisJa> ehhmm... minimizing mirc then opening mozilla firefox and going to NMG homepage...?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> why would one use mirc/
[01:52] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:52] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:53] <rellis__> Typos_King: THat workaround worked out nicely. Thanks for the tip.
[01:53] <rellis__> as much as i hate it :)
[01:53] <Typos_King> LuisJa:   is not 1 file you know, lemme see if I can zip the .deb for you
[01:53] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:53] <Typos_King> rellis__:     as I said, I use kde apps more so than gnome's, reason why I run it, but knetworkmanager isn't their sharpest
[01:53] <BluesKaj>  running maverick here , so far so good
[01:54] <LuisJa> oh Typos_King, so it is not a deb but a file.. then where I can get it? and when I go to kubuntu how I install it?
[01:54] <LuisJa> but a zip*
[01:54] <BluesKaj> and synaptic is still my fav package manager ...use it as reference for installed apps
[01:55] <Typos_King> LuisJa:     well, you unzip it, it'll show a bunch of .deb files, stick them to your usb stick, go over to the kubuntu machine and install off the usb :)
[01:56] <rellis__> fair enough, have a good night
[01:56] <LuisJa> do you have a link to download it Typos_King?
[01:56] <LuisJa> also I need to make a bug report?
[01:56] <LuisJa> because come on...
[01:56] <LuisJa> If I didnt have another laptop, excuse the word but... I was fucked :/
[01:56] <Typos_King> LuisJa:    http://www.2shared.com/file/25Q18Sap/_nm-applet__network_manager.html
[01:57] <LuisJa> thanks Typos_King
[01:58] <Typos_King> LuisJa:    install them using dpkg, go to the folder where all .deb are and fromt there do a -> sudo dpkg -i *
[01:58] <Typos_King> to run it just run 'nm-applet'
[02:05] <LuisJa> Typos_King How I install them with dpkp, I have to select them manually?
[02:06] <Typos_King> LuisJa:    install them using dpkg, go to the folder where all .deb are and fromt there do a -> sudo dpkg -i *
[02:06] <LuisJa> wait but
[02:06] <LuisJa> how i Know in what folders the deb are
[02:06] <LuisJa> I remember a command called "where" or something...
[02:06] <LuisJa> than showed where files are
[02:07] <LuisJa> dont remember exactly through...
[02:07] <LuisJa> Typos_King BluesKaj?
[02:07] <Typos_King> heh
[02:07] <Typos_King> well
[02:08] <Typos_King> are you right now in the kubuntu machine with the usb stick plugged in?
[02:08] <LuisJa> yes
[02:08] <Typos_King> I assume you're using dolphin.... did you unzip the file?
[02:08] <LuisJa> yes, I saved it in desktop
[02:10] <Typos_King> ok..... so.. . they landed in the "(nm-applet) network manager"  folder?
[02:10] <LuisJa> yes
[02:10] <Typos_King> are you looking at all the .deb files in that folder right now, in Dolphin?
[02:10] <LuisJa> yes
[02:11] <Typos_King> ok, then press Shift-F4, or go to Tools > Open Terminal
[02:11] <LuisJa> oh ei
[02:11] <Typos_King> dolphin will open a terminal at that location
[02:11] <LuisJa> ****** nice
[02:11] <LuisJa> never knew that trick
[02:11] <LuisJa> very useful, thanks dude :)
[02:11] <Typos_King> now from there, do a -> sudo dpkg -i *
[02:12] <LuisJa> done
[02:12] <Typos_King> now run nm-applet :)
[02:13] <Typos_King> you may not want to do it from the terminal if you want it permanent
[02:13] <Typos_King> for testing it is ok, but you'd want to, kde menu > run command
[02:13] <Typos_King> although more than likely it's already in the programs menu
[02:14] <Typos_King> reason why I said that is, any app 'spawned' from the terminal, will be closed as a child process once the terminal closes
[02:14] <Typos_King> need to dash :)
[02:18] <`Onyx> How do I change the colour of my task bar? I'm running 10.4
[02:20] <LuisJa> BluesKaj My Kubuntu Laptop displays when left-clicking network manager: "Network Management Disabled" whats wrong?! five days ago it was perfect and there is no button to turn off wifi in my laptop :/
[02:20] <derekul> howdy yall
[02:21] <derekul> is there a drivers for ati video in kubuntu
[02:21] <amason_> derekul: which card do you have ? most ati cards are supported out the box
[02:22] <amason_> LuisJa: do you have nm-applet installed ( comes with gnome ) ?
[02:25] <LuisJa> amason_ the problem started before installing nm-applet, installed it to see if it was kNetworkmanager problem, still not solved, it says "network managing disabled"
[02:25] <derekul> its a AMD® 780G and SB700 Chipset
[02:26] <amason_> LuisJa: did i say it was an nm-applet issue ?
[02:26] <amason_> i only asked if you had it installed
[02:27] <derekul> i had my network disable if i let my pc hibernate
[02:27] <LuisJa> amason_ why so rude :)
[02:28] <LuisJa> just added some info to be more specific ;)
[02:28] <derekul> my video is AMD® 780G
[02:28] <amason_> derekul: i think it should be supported , it looks pretty new so you could potentially need to use a newer kernel.
[02:30] <derekul> i cant get games to show up right in wine thay look blank
[02:30] <amason_> derekul: does regular 3d compositing etc.. work for you ?
[02:31] <derekul> dont know im use to red-hat
[02:31] <derekul> and mandrake
[02:32] <derekul> never used kde version of linux
[02:36] <BiggFREE> Back
[02:38] <LuisJa> My Kubuntu Laptop displays this when left-clicking network manager: "Network Management Disabled" whats wrong?! five days ago it was perfect and there is no button to turn off wifi in my laptop :/
[02:44] <derekul> i cant games to display right in wine
[02:45] <derekul> i get blank screen when thay open
[02:45] <LuisJa>  My Kubuntu Laptop displays this when left-clicking network manager: "Network Management Disabled". I heard from an user than this is a kubuntu bug than when you let the laptop hibernate it disables the Network Managing and you have to reinstall, fix for this in any case?
[02:46] <darkdelusions> derekul:  do you have the nvidia or ati driver installed?
[02:46] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: let me find the fix for that I had the same issue
[02:46] <LuisJa> darkdelusions thanks dude, I will wait :)
[02:47] <`Onyx> How do I change the colour of my task bar? I'm running 10.4
[02:48] <derekul> i had the same problim on a desktop i had to reinstall from a usb flash drive
[02:51] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9219714
[02:51] <darkdelusions> 4th post down
[02:51] <darkdelusions> check those 2 files
[02:51] <darkdelusions> I think I will book mark that now because I know I will forget how t do it
[02:51] <lucio> LuisJa: you should use the plasma-network-management
[02:52] <darkdelusions> lucio: its not that for some reason the networkmanaged in var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state get set to false
[02:53] <darkdelusions> derekul: I would attemp to install the video drivers that are correct for you card that my reslove the issue
[02:53] <derekul> how
[02:53] <darkdelusions> !ati | derekul
[02:59] <orb02> hi, I installed the adobe flash player for Lynx on Kubuntu, and now youtube for example looks extremely ugly (as if its not processing the page source) and I can't watch videos on it
[03:01] <lucio> darkdelusions: LuisJa : if you have the plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed..if u click it there are 2 buttons on the lower left side to enable them
[03:03] <darkdelusions> lucio: humm i wil need to grab that
[03:05] <derekul> duh i never installed the drivers
[03:06] <derekul> im installing the drivers now with hardwar drivers
[03:07] <darkdelusions> lucio: that for that tip i been using the stock
[03:07] <lucio> darkdelusions: much better
[03:09] <derekul> kde version is way different than red-hat & mandrake
[03:10] <lucio> derekul: of course much better  :)
[03:10] <derekul> lets hop this works for guildwars
[03:12] <derekul> wish me luck uall
[03:12] <derekul> who here uses firefox
[03:14] <lucio> derekul: everyone?
[03:14] <derekul> i know im not gona hibernate my pc again because i lost my network to it disabling it for good
[03:15] <darkdelusions> <= not i :) i am stuck on chrome :)
[03:15] <darkdelusions> now
[03:15] <derekul> i had ro reinstall 10.4 today
[03:16] <derekul> on my other computer i have chrome os
[03:16] <derekul> my main computer has windows
[03:16] <derekul> 7
[03:17] <derekul> ok wish me luck on the driver for my ati
[03:40] <lwtazlzl> ?
[03:43] <derekul> ok how do i config the ati driver
[03:44] <LuisJa>  My Kubuntu Laptop displays this when left-clicking network manager: "Network Management Disabled". I heard from an user than this is a kubuntu bug than when you let the laptop hibernate it disables the Network Managing and you have to reinstall, fix for this in any case?
[03:45] <darkdelusions> LuisJa:  did you see what i said earlier or have you installed the plasma-widget-networkmanagement that lucio suggested
[03:46] <darkdelusions> i would suggest lucioo fix its ezer then mine
[03:50] <bloodwolf> who use qtcreator?
[03:51] <LuisJa> darkdelusions you never typed "LuisJa" again so i didnt knew you were talking to me
[03:55] <zus> does anyone use the t.v. chrome 1.0.5 extension? in chrome(ium) browser?
[03:55] <LuisJa> darkdelusions lucio typed somethign about plasma-network-managament what I must do
[03:55] <darkdelusions> go install it form kpackagekit or apt
[03:55] <zus> how can i get windows media player plug-in?
[03:56] <LuisJa> cant I dont have internet darkdelusions
[03:56] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: then my route it is
[03:57] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: LuisJa: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9219714
[03:57] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: 4th post down
[03:57] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: check the 2 files
[03:58] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: in my situtation the NetworkingEnabled=true was set to false
[03:58] <darkdelusions> if i remember correctly
[03:59] <LuisJa> darkdelusions aja I got the route, but what I do with it, what command I type sudo X /etc/...
[04:00] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: I use sudo vim for my text editor but it kinda a pita if you not fimilar with it
[04:01] <LuisJa> oh true, kate
[04:01] <darkdelusions> kdesu kate /etc/....
[04:01] <LuisJa> darkdelusions always forget i must open rutes with text editors :)
[04:02] <LuisJa> route*
[04:05] <LuisJa> darkdelusions lucioo thanks a lot guys, bookmarking that pages ;)
[04:05] <LuisJa> page*
[04:06] <darkdelusions> ya It happened to me the other day and it took me a while to figure it out
[04:07] <darkdelusions> LuisJa: now you have network pack install the other network manager
[04:07] <darkdelusions> *back
[04:08] <LuisJa> darkdelusions you mean isntalling gnome network manager?
[04:08] <darkdelusions> bbiaf
[04:49] <AlexLuya> hello,how can i disable kopate notification,I took half an hour to figure it out,but can not find where to set
[04:57] <nicio> i mount my external HDD on my desktop but i could not accese it.it's ntfs how can i get inside my HDD?
[04:58] <nicio> #ubuntu
[05:01] <zus> how can i get the gmail plasmoid to tell me if i got mail? there is supposed to have a number by it?
[05:03] <nicio> #ubuntu
[05:04] <nicio> i mount my external HDD on my desktop but i could not accese it.it's ntfs how can i get inside my HDD?
[05:14] <nicio> i mount my external HDD on my desktop but i could not accese it.it's ntfs how can i get inside my HDD?
[05:18] <zus> how can i get the gmail plasmoid to tell me if i got mail? there is supposed to have a number by it?
[06:30] <robert__> Well i'm sure you've heard this before, but I'm having Flashplayer trouble. I've tried re installing it, I've tried different browsers, I've hacked firefox, and I still am getting choppy video playback. Does anyone have a solution that actually works?
[06:31] <robert__> I try to play a game, and it tells me the frame rate is to low, so i went into firefox and set it up to a million and it had no effect
[06:32] <robert__> is anyone out there?
[06:33] <ikonia> yes
[06:33] <robert__> Well i'm sure you've heard this before, but I'm having Flashplayer trouble. I've tried re installing it, I've tried different browsers, I've hacked firefox, and I still am getting choppy video playback. Does anyone have a solution that actually works?
[06:33] <robert__> I'm using version 10
[06:33] <robert__> lucid
[06:33] <ikonia> how did you install flash
[06:33] <robert__> i did it in terminal
[06:33] <ikonia> install
[06:34] <ikonia> no - how did you actually instrall it
[06:34] <robert__> i don't really remember but im pretty sure i downloaded it from adobe and then used a sudo
[06:35] <ikonia> ok - then that may well be your problem
[06:35] <ikonia> you've not read the documentation on how to install flash
[06:35] <ikonia> !flash | robert__
[06:35] <robert__> ok
[06:35] <ikonia> robert__: then I'm not sure what you've done to "hack" firefox
[06:35] <robert__> About:config
[06:35] <robert__> sessionstore interval
[06:36] <ikonia> ok - so you've not hacked anything, you've just changed a config parameter
[06:36] <robert__> yeah they called it a hack though
[06:36] <robert__> but i don't do that
[06:36] <robert__> thats illegal
[06:36] <ikonia> no-one calls changing a config file a hack
[06:37] <nicio> i mount my external HDD on my desktop but i could not accese it.it's ntfs how can i get inside my HDD?
[06:38] <ikonia> !ntfs | nicio
[06:39] <nicio> i canot install anything like ntfs-3g adept wont work it giving problems
[06:39] <robert__> ikonia__: how should i remove it before i re install
[06:39] <ikonia> explain the problems
[06:39] <robert__> I don't remember how
[06:39] <ikonia> robert__: depends how you want to remove it, but I would yes
[06:40] <robert__> the page is telling me to enable the partner repository
[06:40] <robert__> install the adobe-flashplugin package
[06:40] <robert__> and restart my browser
[06:40] <robert__> should I start with "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin"
[06:40] <robert__> ?
[06:40] <ikonia> you should follow the instuctions on the packge
[06:40] <ikonia> page
[06:41] <ikonia> flashplugin is just a meta package, so it won't actually remove anything
[06:46] <robert__> how do i enable the partner repository? its showing how on an older version
[06:47] <nicio> i cant install nothing :( adep get not working neither is commands in sheel
[06:48] <nicio> i need eccese to my extarnah HDD it's mounted but they say i need privelage to go in to it (-_-)
[06:49] <robert__> nevermind i found it in kpackagekit
[07:16] <sushilcha> my network-manager-kde doesnot detect/scan wireless.. but iwlist can
[07:17] <sushilcha> it worked fine in fresh install but not sure when it broke..
[07:17] <sushilcha> can anybody suggest anything?
[07:21] <sushilcha> seems network-manager-kde is not controlling wlan0, i unchecked 'enable wireless' but nothing happened !!
[07:21] <sushilcha> anybody hav any idea?
[08:01] <souvik> Could someone please advise how I can connect to a Windows server from Konsole, if possible?
[08:05] <sabineeller> ok ... now with kubuntu 10.4 live - trying to install, but I seem to have to edit partitions manually (working from uunetbotin for install)
[08:06] <sabineeller> same prob as yesterday ... don't know how to handle the partitions
[08:19] <LeoTheComm> Have looked around and cannot find an answer. When I installed KDE on 9.10 I had to install regular ubuntu then add kde to it. Now with 10.04 the same thing happens. When I go to install it or run from disk X crashes and will not come up. Under 9.10 I had to make a xorg.conf file with vesa as the driver to make it work
[08:20] <LeoTheComm> Where do I go from here?
[09:07] <eagles0513875> hey guys is anyone having ram usage issues
[09:09] <bob2134555> eagles... you're using kubuntu(implies ram usage issues)
[09:16] <eagles0513875> bob2134555: i have 8gb of ram and i dont have much open program wise
[09:19] <bob2134555> it's just the buntu way, eat ram for breakfast. but 8gb of ram? seriously
[09:24] <moetunes> I get upset if my comp uses more than 50mb after booting to the dsktop...
[09:24] <skramer_> Mamarok: it seems I got the problems with Kontact / Akonadi fixed yesterday, only one last problem: closing Kontact once, I can't open it again
[09:24] <moetunes> it's only gotto give access to a menu
[09:25] <skramer_> Mamarok: I see the spinners, but no window opens until I kill the still running kontact process
[09:25] <skramer_> Mamarok: anything I could do about it?
[09:39] <eagles0513875> hey guys there is an update for kopete and im having issues with getting it installed
[09:39] <eagles0513875> kopete isnt even running
[09:40] <jstar-tw> hi, is there a client for ubuntu-one cloud available for lucid ?
[09:47] <moetunes> !ubuntuone
[09:47] <moetunes> jstar-tw: ^^
[09:49] <jstar-tw> moetunes: cool thanks
[09:49] <moetunes> i like cool    thnx :]
[09:52] <Mamarok> skramer_: you need to close kontact with Ctrl+Q, if you just close the window it is still running, see the Systray indicator
[09:54] <eagles0513875> hey guys im trying to update kopete as an update for it has been pushed to the repos but i keep getting these messages when i do http://pastebin.com/RRiUUy9W
[09:56] <moetunes> eagles0513875: lzma error- is it installed? - the first question
[09:56] <eagles0513875> moetunes: yes comes installed by default
[09:56] <eagles0513875> with lucid
[09:56] <eagles0513875> this was a clean install
[09:56] <moetunes> k
[09:56] <eagles0513875> and i had it running i closed it thinking that was the problem yet the error still persists
[09:57] <moetunes> eagles0513875: your paste said it was replacing with amd64deb - you using 64bit?
[09:57] <eagles0513875> correct
[09:57] <moetunes> k
[09:58] <moetunes> line 18 says yahoo is involved? eagles0513875 ?
[09:58] <eagles0513875> moetunes: kopete isnt even being used atm
[09:59] <eagles0513875> its not loaded
[09:59] <eagles0513875> or signedinto anything
[09:59] <moetunes> eagles0513875: why is yahoo in line 18 of your post?
[09:59] <moetunes> #
[09:59] <moetunes>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/kde4/kopete_yahoo.so')
[09:59] <eagles0513875> .so = shared object
[10:01] <moetunes>  /kopete_yahoo is what I'm querying
[10:02] <eagles0513875> moetunes: this /usr/lib/kde4/kopete_yahoo.so
[10:03] <moetunes> eagles0513875: not disputing that - just wondered how yahoo got to be in there - do they do kde?
[10:04] <eagles0513875> moetunes: its probably the part of kopete that allows one to connect to the yahoo messenger protocol
[10:04] <moetunes> k
[10:05] <moetunes> seems to be where the error lies eagles0513875
[10:05] <eagles0513875> moetunes: any ideas how to fix it
[10:06] <moetunes> eagles0513875: nope - sorry - was working from the error back - never use kopote here
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:08] <moetunes> eagles0513875: my guess would be that yahoo maybe haven't updated to the protocol used by kopote in lucid  yet
[10:50] <skramer_> Mamarok: thanks Mamarok, I didn't realize that ;-)
[10:56] <Mamarok> skramer_: you are welcome. Most applications can normally be closed by closing the window, but some have processes runnign in the Systray, so only Ctrl+Q closed them
[12:07] <Matisse> hi
[12:08] <Matisse> is there a way to set a maximum copy speed for usb sticks (maybe just for the current copy job)?
[12:08] <moetunes> hello Matisse  :]
[12:08] <Matisse> hola
[12:09] <moetunes> most folks complain about slow speeds...
[12:09] <Matisse> but I think if its to fast, some sticks seem to have problems...
[12:11] <moetunes> I can't think of a way to limit it - interesting question
[12:15] <Matisse> is a sync program able to limit the speed?
[12:16] <Matisse> yes... rsync is able...
[12:20] <thomasfuston> Mornin', i got a short question is there a lightweight alternative to amarok, for kde ?
[12:20] <Matisse> audicious?
[12:21] <Matisse> really like it: its fast and has enough features
[12:23] <Matisse> thomasfuston, audicious is the package name
[12:24] <thomasfuston> Matisse: already trying it , looks good so far, thx :)
[12:30] <Matisse> well, rsync is starting to copy... thats something I've experienced before but I dont remember the solution
[12:30] <ites> hi guys
[12:31] <ites> okm so my problem is i cant log in to kde anymore
[12:31] <ites> i found on the internet altready what i should do to make it work, only problem is there is no way on earth how i can log in to console
[12:32] <ites> hope someone can explain to me how to do that, with livecd or not idc i just need to acces a console
[12:32] <ites> starting recovery mode does not work, it just stops after saying starting ntpd server
[12:33] <shadeslayer> ites: after you get to kdm press ctrl+alt+F1 and login
[12:33] <shadeslayer> !tty | ites
[12:33] <ites> oh
[12:34] <ites> where will i get when doing ctrl alt f1
[12:34] <shadeslayer> ites: its called a virtual terminal or TTY
[12:34] <shadeslayer> ites: itll be a black screen with a prompt for login,after you login you can perform all sorts of commands
[12:35] <ites> thing is there is something with icequthoriry, i have to use command like sudo chown user=user /home/user/.ICEauthoriry before i can think of logging in
[12:35] <ites> oh ok
[12:35] <shadeslayer> ites: yes,you can do that via a TTY
[12:35] <ites> thanks shadeslayer going to try right now
[12:35] <ites> thx a lot
[12:35] <shadeslayer> sure
[12:44] <ahmad_> hi all, I have installed postgresq-8.4, I can connect to it by terminal, but it does not accept any connections from pgadmin or jdbc. any help please?
[12:48] <ites> hey shadeslayer
[12:48] <ites> when doing alt f1 i got on black screen saying booting fro; hd blablam startting up
[12:48] <ites> but it doesnt move at all
[12:49] <ites> i mean it doesnt start at all it just staya that, or should i rly wait 10 min
[12:50] <ites> im on kubuntu booting from live cd now but i cant use the console for what i want to do
[12:50] <ites> so rly need another way to acces the console
[12:50] <moetunes> ites: what happens if you hit enter?
[12:50] <ites> in alt f1
[12:50] <ites> nothing
[12:50] <ites> tried that too
[12:51] <moetunes> would   ctrl+alt+f2 help?
[12:51] <ites> nop i used all
[12:51] <moetunes> k
[12:51] <ites> f1 = f6
[12:51] <ites> f7 getting me back to gui
[12:52] <ites> but only f1 gives me text
[12:52] <ites> f2 and the rest just black, nothing
[12:53] <moetunes> what was the original prob - I missed it...
[12:54] <ites> well i cannot log in to kde
[12:54] <ites> 2sec gonna show you the error msg
[12:55] <ites> no write acces for $HOME (/home/boesmans) KDE cannot start.
[12:55] <ites> After that i got something like cannot start ksmserver.
[12:56] <ites> some ppl told me i could choose console login and i4d be able to login from there
[12:56] <ites> but i cant...
[12:56] <ites> i just need a console , i hoped when im at kde login pagem left i can choose failsafe moode
[12:57] <ites> instead of default
[12:57] <ites> if i do that, i get a terminal for 2secs then it goes back to login page
[12:57] <shadeslayer> ites: well thats weird.. and btw you have to wait till kdm starts
[12:58] <ites> what do you mean
[13:00] <ites> when doing ctrl alt f1 i should wait till i get a consoleM
[13:00] <ites> ?
[13:01] <ites> or what do you mean shadeslayer
[13:01] <shadeslayer> ites: no i mean that you have to wait till you get to the login screen,and then press ctrl+Alt+f1
[13:02] <ites> yes ofcourse
[13:02] <shadeslayer> ites: you can also chroot from  a live cd but thats a bit advanced
[13:02] <shadeslayer> !chroot
[13:02] <ites> k
[13:03] <ites> and waiting on the screen that i get with ctrl alt f1 ? or should it be there immediately
[13:05] <Roey> hi
[13:05] <Roey> right-click actions on .m3u files all fail (including appending the playlist to Amarok and making CDs with k3b)
[13:06] <shadeslayer> ites: it should be there immediately
[13:06] <moetunes> ites: shold be there more or less straight away
[13:06] <moetunes> s/shold/should
[13:09] <Roey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/458657    <---- hey whatever happened to this??
[13:09] <Roey> I still cannot manage to succeed on any of the context menu items under 'Actions' for a m3u file.
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Roey: this is a upstream bug and needs to be fixed by amarok devs
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Roey: /join #amarok
[13:10] <Roey> oh my god.
[13:10] <Roey> I just asked there.
[13:10] <Roey> they sent me to here.
[13:10] <shadeslayer> \o/
[13:10] <Roey> shadeslayer:  I asked first there.
[13:11] <Roey> more like /o\.
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Roey: ok,well im sorry then,i dont know :)
[13:11] <Roey> thanks anyway :)
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Roey: lemme reproduce using git
[13:11] <Roey> thanks
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Roey: what does not work for you exactly?
[13:11] <Roey> well,
[13:12] <Roey> 1) if I right-click on a .m3u file and select 'Actions->Amarok->Append to Playlist', I get this:  Cannot find '.playMedia' in object /PlayerList at org.kde.amarok
[13:13] <Roey> 2) if I right-click on a .m3u and select 'Actions->Create Audio CD file with K3B', then K3B gives me an error that it cannot read this format.
[13:13] <Roey> these should have been fixed by now I would have thought
[13:14] <shadeslayer> Roey: well amarok just launched when i did a append... lets see
[13:15] <Roey> ok
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Roey: works here
[13:16] <shadeslayer> oh my
[13:16] <shadeslayer> this is a .pls file
[13:16] <Roey> Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA libGL.so
[13:16] <Roey> and libGLcore.so shared libraries (libGL.so version:
[13:16] <Roey> 190.53; libGLcore.so version: 195.36.15).
[13:16] <Roey> Please try reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
[13:16] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <Roey> what the heck does this have to do with NVidia driver.
[13:17] <Roey> anyway, I'm going to work
[13:17] <Roey> see ya
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Roey: one sec
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Roey: im trying with a .m3u file
[13:18] <Roey> k
[13:18] <shadeslayer> ok um ... i cant find the .m3u file :P
[13:18] <Roey> save playlist as m3u file from within amarok then
[13:18] <shadeslayer> yes it does append
[13:19] <Roey> bbl though-- off to woroi
[13:19] <Roey> work
[13:19] <shadeslayer> its a icecast stream from UDS...
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Roey: it works here
[13:37] <_rs> I'm running 10.04 on a Dell laptop and everytime my computer starts I have to switch the wireless button on or off(does not matter what state, sometimes the button is off but wireless is on) to have wireless working. I'd like to have wireless always on, how can I change that?
[13:37] <gazra> krfb doesn't work!
[13:37] <_rs> I don't know if it's a network-manager bug or something else...
[13:38] <gazra> Can someon tell me how can I configure VNC on Kubuntu 10.04, so that it lets me actaully see
[13:38] <shadeslayer> !vnc
[13:38] <gazra> shadeslayer: really?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> gazra: eh?
[13:38] <gazra> shadeslayer: sorry, I'm really desperate
[13:38] <shadeslayer> gazra: tried the gnome alternative?
[13:38] <gazra> I have tried krfb, the default vnc server for kubuntu
[13:39] <gazra> But it doesn't work
[13:39] <shadeslayer> gazra: try the one for Ubuntu
[13:41] <gazra> the one of ubuntu is for GNOME!
[13:41] <gazra> Have you tried it?
[13:41] <gazra> Does it work with KDE?
[13:41] <eagles0513875> RaGNORAK: ping ping ping
[13:44] <eagles0513875> RaGNORAK: plz get back to me you wanted me to let you know once i get lucid installed on my 2tb hdd
[13:50] <gazra> Any one has successfully used KRFB, or any VNC server under Kubuntu 10.04?
[14:02] <watson> wats up
[14:09] <Matisse> need some help with rsync: can the option "--checksum-seed=NUM     set block/file checksum seed (advanced)"  be used to get around a detailed checksum?
[14:13] <hceasyon> how to install kde 4.4.3 ?
[14:14] <Matisse> hceasyon, which kubuntu do you have?
[14:14] <hceasyon> ?
[14:14] <Matisse> 9.10 or 10.04
[14:14] <Matisse> or older
[14:14] <hceasyon> 10.04
[14:17] <hceasyon> what  should i do ?
[14:23] <ct529> anyone who knows how to install CUDA on 10.04?
[14:23] <ToraToraTora> I lost hdmi sound with 9.10>10.04 upgrade. Anyone know any fix for this? And no, hdmi output is not just muted. It disappeared from sound and video settings also.
[14:27] <Tw4T> Hi guys, Im a new convert to Linux and am loving Kubuntu. Theres just ONE thing stopping me from dual booting to Windows, I cannot get SPDIF Pass-Thru working. I have my HDMI audio set correctly and can hear audio from my Amp, except DTS/AC3 is outputted to PCM. If theres any more info required Ill post it. PLEASE HELP , I have lots of MKVs to watch ;-)
[14:43] <roberto__> hey, my mouse pointer keeps disappearing when over the tabs in konversation
[14:43] <Tw4T> ha , mine keeps changing to a "hand" instead of a cursor on the desktop ???
[14:44] <roberto__> is that fixable? right now I feel like I'm practicing zen when chatting on irc
[14:44] <Tw4T> lol , dunno
[14:54] <lcars-daniel> I installed Kubuntu 3 times and the same problems happens.  I keep trying to go and use 1024x768 graphics and everytime I change the monitor to what it should be it boots me out to DOS/Command mode.  How do I get the GUI back without re-installing if possible.
[14:55] <lcars-daniel> After changing the monitor I reboot the PC.
[14:55] <lyhana8> hi, what is the best way to allow user to access a partition (windows or linux): 1) `chown -R myuser:myuser` 2) use mask in /etc/fstab
[14:56] <lcars-daniel> Should I re-install it or scrap it?
[14:57] <lcars-daniel> Right now I am running the Live CD again.
[14:57] <oal> Isn't this way to hot? http://imagebin.ca/view/WGwCDX.html CPU at 80C
[14:58] <lyhana8> oal: I believe 60C is aleray hot
[14:59] <oal> My cpu is around 79-81 at all times it seems, lyhana8
[14:59] <llutz> lyhana8: what filesystem?
[14:59] <lyhana8> ReiserFS and NTFS llutz
[15:00] <lyhana8> oal: look for the apps that use your CPU
[15:00] <lcars-daniel> What uses ReiserFS?
[15:00] <llutz> lyhana8: chown/chmod won't work on ntfs
[15:00] <llutz> lyhana8: so you have to use uid/gid/umask options
[15:00] <oal> lyhana8, cpu usage: 5-20%
[15:01] <lyhana8> llutz: http://pastebin.com/snyP2dqK
[15:01] <lyhana8> I worsk with NTFS/ReiserFS/Ext4
[15:01] <lyhana8> but my main concern right now is for ReiserFS
[15:01] <oal> Wow. I put my big room fan next to my pc blowing air towards the cpu and motherboard. 10C temperature drop, lyhana8
[15:02] <oal> lyhana8, both the mb and cpu dropped ~10C
[15:02] <lcars-daniel> That is one way to cool a PC>
[15:02] <lyhana8> oal: I'm like you, 80°C seem strange, but don't know more. Maybe you got dust on your fan
[15:02] <lyhana8> XD
[15:02] <lyhana8> what did you use to check the temperature ?
[15:02] <lcars-daniel> Anyone know how to fix my graphics problem?
[15:03] <oal> lyhana8, now check this http://imagebin.ca/view/AEw645.html
[15:03] <oal> lyhana8, just the kde4 plasma element for my desktop
[15:03] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: be more precise
[15:03] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: which brand, which model, etc.
[15:03] <oal> lyhana8, now it's 28C on mb and 65C on cpu
[15:03] <lyhana8> oal: mine only display in Farenheit :S
[15:04] <lyhana8> maybe due to the localisation I use
[15:04] <oal> I think so
[15:04] <oal> But how many farenheit
[15:04] <oal> ?
[15:04] <lcars-daniel> Everytime I try and use 1024x768 resolution I get problems.  Doing it normally has a split screen that mirrors eachother.  Changing monitor stops me from using the GUI.
[15:04] <lyhana8> 134°F oal
[15:04] <oal> lyhana8, 80C is 176F
[15:04] <lcars-daniel> I am running a nvidia geforce 6200 and compaq monitor mv900
[15:04] <oal> Yours is like 56C, lyhana8
[15:05] <lcars-daniel> Linux says 6800 generic and plug and play monitor and I tryo to change to Compaq v900 monitor.
[15:05] <lyhana8> I was a bit worried cause it was cause to the 60°C and it was kind of a dangerous level in my mind
[15:05] <explorealex> anyone available to help?
[15:05] <lcars-daniel> Everytime I loose the GUI and can't get it back, at least I don't know how.,
[15:05] <lyhana8> did you use the proprietary driver? lcars-daniel
[15:06] <lcars-daniel> No.
[15:06] <lyhana8> explorealex: explain your problem and wait
[15:06] <oal> lyhana8, no idea why it's that hot. I have an intel Q9550, not overclocked, and a rather expensive noctua fan
[15:06] <lcars-daniel> Frsh install Kubuntu 9.04 kde 3
[15:06] <lcars-daniel> clean install
[15:07] <lcars-daniel> I have re-installed 3 times so far trying to get it working.
[15:07] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel:  did you try the prop driver ? Nvidia cards are supposed to have a good support
[15:07] <lcars-daniel> No I haven't
[15:07] <lcars-daniel> How do I get it after installing Kubuntu?
[15:07] <lyhana8> you can give a try, and also ask on #nvidia
[15:08] <islington> lcars-daniel: do alt+f2 and type in restricted
[15:08] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: Kmenu > System > Hardware driver
[15:08] <explorealex> lyhana8: okay. i installed the kde look after installing ubuntu 9.10. but the network manager won,t work. so i downloaded wicd. then i removed knetworkmanager and now i can't understand the instructions on how to install wicd. i'm new to ubuntu as well as kubuntu.
[15:08] <Bucky> hi. wich is the best tool to store personal contacts infos in kde? i'm looking for something VERY integrated (accessible from kmail, kopete...)
[15:08] <lcars-daniel> Right now on Linux all I get is DOS mode
[15:08] <islington> lcars-daniel: my bad type in drivers
[15:08] <lcars-daniel> How do I get the GUI back?
[15:09] <lcars-daniel> without re-installing it.
[15:09] <islington> er are you in a tty shell? sorry I just got here
[15:09] <BluesKaj> dos ? you mean tty
[15:09] <lyhana8> explorealex: 1) why do you install 9.10 ? 10.04 is available and you can have both knetworkmanager and wicd install, while on 9.04 they are exclusive
[15:09] <lcars-daniel> Whatever it is called.  Reminds me of the DOS days.
[15:09] <islington> try ctrl+alt+f7 lcars-daniel
[15:09] <lyhana8> Bucky: kwallet ?
[15:09] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: jockey -t
[15:09] <lcars-daniel> Right now I am running in the LIve CD
[15:10] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: sorry, jockey-text
[15:10] <lcars-daniel> If I boot to Linux on the drive it is tty
[15:10] <lcars-daniel> DOS (command) mode
[15:10] <islington> hmm that is not supposed to happen
[15:10] <Bucky> lyhana8: i disable it because it asks me the pwd at every logon to establish wireless connection
[15:10] <islington> type in startx lcars-daniel
[15:10] <lcars-daniel> let me reboot and try that.
[15:11] <explorealex> lyhana8: 1)i heard from experienced users that a new distro should not be installed immediately. 2) now that i have installed it ubuntu works just fine. but i would like to work on kubuntu as well but the internet problem prevents me from doing so.
[15:11] <lyhana8> Bucky: oh~ I got the same issue, never went to look for a solution. If you find keep me up to date :)
[15:11] <islington> lcars-daniel: rebooting> but why? arent you on a live cd?
[15:11] <islington> oic you are on irc with live cd
[15:11] <lyhana8> explorealex: is your laptop super recent ?
[15:11] <islington> mornings man how do they work
[15:11] <explorealex> lyhana8: no. 4 years old.
[15:11] <lyhana8> explorealex: how do they suppor tthis point of view ?
[15:11] <Bucky> lyhana8: its a well know bug. let's wait developers to fix it.
[15:12] <explorealex> lyhana8:which one?
[15:12] <Bucky> lyhana8: request of pwd
[15:12] <lyhana8> Bucky: it's a bug O.O ?? But it's happening for at least 3-4 kubuntu version
[15:13] <Bucky> lyhana8: whhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaattttttttt?????
[15:13] <Bucky> first release with kubuntu for me.
[15:13] <Bucky> they told me so....
[15:13] <lyhana8> explorealex: as you laptop is not really recent, I think that fine. You can got difficulties when you hardware is too recent for linux (mainly CG and wifi)
[15:14] <lyhana8> Bucky: well I'm pretty sure I got this annoying dialog box asking for my password for a loooooooong time
[15:14] <fyksen> Does somebody know about a good music program other then amarok in kubuntu? I dont like kubuntu (a) :)
[15:15] <explorealex>  lyhana8: if i install wicd on ubuntu will i be able to access it on kubuntu? and will this wicd interfere with the already present network manager?
[15:15] <islington> explorealex: iirc wicd replaces nm
[15:15] <islington> will still be fully fucntional though
[15:16] <explorealex> islington:automatically? and what will be functional?
[15:16] <lyhana8> explorealex: totally
[15:16] <roberto__> hey, my mouse pointer keeps disappearing when over the tabs in konversation
[15:16] <roberto__> is that fixable? right now I feel like I'm practicing zen when chatting on irc
[15:16] <lyhana8> explorealex: oh! wait, did you install Ubuntu and Kubuntu on different partition ?
[15:16] <fyksen> Does somebody know about a good music program other then amarok in kubuntu? I dont like *amarok*
[15:16] <explorealex>  lyhana8:i didnt
[15:17] <lyhana8> explorealex: so you install Ubuntu then added the KDE-desktop ?
[15:17] <islington> explorealex: well what I mean is that once you add wicd to startup, then it will handle your wifi needs, nm will not be active
[15:17] <lcars-daniel> I am back.  I am using a separate PC to get help.  I cannot get in KDE.  I tried startx and it gives errors.
[15:17] <explorealex>  lyhana8: yes. that's what i did.
[15:17] <lyhana8> fyksen: Banshee, RythmBox are ubuntu based, but they use different approach of music management
[15:17] <islington> lcars-daniel: hmm what kind of errors?
[15:17] <explorealex>  islington:will wicd replace nm or will it not allow nm to function?
[15:17] <lcars-daniel> Connection refused errorno 111
[15:17] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: which kind of error ?
[15:18] <lcars-daniel> Server error
[15:18] <lyhana8> explorealex: wicd remove nm before *Ubuntu 10.04
[15:18] <fyksen> @lyhana8 Ahh, ty :)
[15:18] <explorealex> lyhana8: i'm sorry. didn't understand that.
[15:19] <islington> explorealex: it replaced nm in all versions on ubu before 10.04
[15:19] <lcars-daniel> I keep trying to get 1024x768 resolution and run into problems.  I installed Linux 3 times so far all with the same results.
[15:19] <lyhana8> explorealex: on version <10.04 you have to choose between nm or wicd, since 10.04 you can have both
[15:19] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: try `jockey-text` and install the nvidia driver
[15:19] <lcars-daniel> Okay
[15:20] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: you can ask for help on #nvidia, by providing you /var/log/Xorg.log
[15:20] <lcars-daniel> Okay.
[15:20] <explorealex> lyhana8:okay. so even if i go ahead and install wicd on ubuntu. i can access it on kde desktop and that takes care of my current problem. you think it is a viable solution?
[15:21] <lyhana8> explorealex: yeap but not sure wicd will solve your wifi problem
[15:21] <lcars-daniel> Command not found.  Tried apt-get for nvidia and package not found.
[15:21] <explorealex>  lyhana8:ohh. then which other software would u suggest?
[15:21] <lyhana8> when you install something on Ubuntu (gnome desktop) or Kubuntu (KDE desktop) it's available on the other desktop (assuming they are on the same partition)
[15:22] <lyhana8> lcars-daniel: jockey and <tab><tab>
[15:23] <lcars-daniel> All I get is errors.  One error says no screens found
[15:23] <Bucky> how do you disable programs start up at logon?
[15:23] <lyhana8> explorealex: what is you problem ? no wifi ?
[15:23] <lyhana8> Bucky: see on the control center
[15:24] <explorealex>  lyhana8: no connection at all. even wired. knm did not accept any ip. now i'm searching for a software to replace knm that works fine.
[15:24] <lyhana8> Bucky: SYstem settings >advanced... > Autostart
[15:25] <lyhana8> explorealex: I don't thinkg that related to you kubuntu if you don't even have a wire connection
[15:25] <explorealex> lyhana8: i want to work on kubuntu. and i want to work online. that's it.:)
[15:26] <lyhana8> explorealex: do you get network on ubuntu ?
[15:26] <Bucky> lyhana8: its almost empty! for ex: i dont want kbluetooth to start up. but there's not in the list!
[15:26] <explorealex>  lyhana8: that's what i am on right now. it has no hassles.
[15:26] <lyhana8> Bucky: look on `Services`
[15:27] <lyhana8> explorealex: do you reboot to get on your Kubuntu or just logout, change desktop, and login ?
[15:28] <explorealex> lyhana8:logout and change desktop. but given the option i would like to log in to kubuntu directly if i have a net connection.
[15:28] <Bucky> lyhana8: can't find it. still in advanced?
[15:29] <lyhana8> Bucky: yeah `Service Manager`
[15:30] <lyhana8> explorealex: did you try to do it on a terminal ? like `ifcofing eth0 up` then `dhclient eth0`
[15:31] <explorealex>  lyhana8no idea about all this. as i said. i am new. i downloaded a tar.bz file from the net. read the install instructions. didn't understand anything. then came on this channel using ubuntu.
[15:32] <Bucky> lyhana8: found, but there's not kbluetooth
[15:34] <lyhana8> explorealex: use the package manager, system > administration > xyz
[15:34] <explorealex> ok
[15:34] <explorealex>  lyhana8:install it on ubuntu. then try to access from kubuntu?
[15:35] <lcars-daniel> StartX No Screens Found
[15:40] <lyhana8> explorealex: yeap
[15:48] <lyhana8> hello ?
[15:49] <Bucky> now im setting Kontact, but it says that contact list is executed by a standalone tool. which it could be?
[15:57] <lcars-daniel> I have nvidia drivers installed and still get the same problems.  StartX Fatal server error: No screens found
[15:57] <shadeslayer> lcars-daniel: did you do : sudo nvidia-xconfig : ?
[15:57] <lcars-daniel> No.
[15:57] <lcars-daniel> let me try that now.
[15:58] <lcars-daniel> Getting parser error and goes back to the command line.
[15:59] <shadeslayer> lcars-daniel: whats the exact error?
[15:59] <lcars-daniel> parse error on line 8
[16:01] <lcars-daniel> PARSE ERROR: parse error on line 8 of section module in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:01] <lcars-daniel> Disable is not a valid keyword in this section
[16:02] <lcars-daniel> sh:pkg-config: not found
[16:03] <shadeslayer> lcars-daniel: ok,do this : sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak :
[16:03] <shadeslayer> lcars-daniel: then try the command again
[16:04] <funcrush> Hi~ I have a problem with using kmail. I set correct encoding but the title of a mail broken. And I read it, leave the folder and return there, the title appear correct. How can I resolve this problem? I wanna see the correct title before I read it.
[16:04] <lcars-daniel> Okay.
[16:07] <lcars-daniel> Unable to open/locate x config file
[16:09] <lcars-daniel> Now I get error about unable to write to /etc/X11
[16:09] <lcars-daniel> oops.  I forgot to say sudo.  lol   But still nothing happens.
[16:13] <lcars-daniel> GUI back but again at 640x480 resolution and if I change monitor again I know what will happen.
[16:13] <lcars-daniel> This is a total nightmare on steroids.
[16:14] <evilshadeslayer> lcars-daniel: that can be fixed
[16:14] <evilshadeslayer> lcars-daniel: theres a option in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... just change the values there
[16:15] <lcars-daniel> Okay.
[16:16] <tzanger> good morning... can someone please tell me what "Enable multiple monitor virtual desktop support" actually does in the system settings?
[16:23] <Izinucs> tzanger: there's two sizes to resolutions you have to consider.. the native resolution of the monitor(s) and the virtual desktop.. since the default for 2 monitors is "Twinview" the largest verticle resolution of a monitor and the combined horizontal resolution of both monitors is used for the virtual desktop when activating a dual monitor setup.  I hope I wrote that clear enough.. :)
[16:24] <tzanger> Izinucs: ahh, so if I have a 1280x800 laptop panel and an external 1920x1150 display I want that OFF. That certainly explains some of the weird cursor things I've been seeing with the external display disconnected (I think)
[16:26] <Izinucs> tzanger: could be.. yes.. depends on your drivers and setup.. I installed the nvidia binary blob direct from their site and use nvidia-settings to control everything..
[16:26] <tzanger> Izinucs: yeah this is some intel internal video
[16:26] <tzanger> gma950 or something IIRC
[16:26] <Izinucs> tzanger: intel?  well that might explain it :)
[16:27] <tzanger> GM965 yeah
[16:27] <okapi14> Hi all, I am trying to use smb4k but this is the error I am getting "invalid command: net rap share list" any one has an idea how to fix this?
[16:28] <Izinucs> okapi14: if nobody knows here try #samba
[16:29] <okapi14> Izinucs: thanks
[16:30] <tzanger> Izinucs: do you know if there's a way to have KDE automatically reconfigure the screen layout when it detects the monitor plugged in and unplugged? Right now it waits until I go into the system settings and then it says "oh, your monitor setup has changed, want me to help you set that up?"
[16:30] <Izinucs> tzanger: sorry I don't
[16:31] <tzanger> Izinucs: np, thanks anyway :-)
[16:38] <JuJuBee> If I formatted my partitions using ext4, is there a simple way to go back to ext3?  i was thinking of using dpkg getselections and setselections to clone the installation after reformatting the partitions.
[16:38] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: I don't think you can go back with out reformatting.  Ext4 is an extent-based file system, ext3 isn't.
[16:39] <JuJuBee> What are the advantages to ext4?
[16:39] <DarthFrog> extents. :-)
[16:39] <JuJuBee> What does that mean for the average user?
[16:40] <DarthFrog> Better performance overall, much less fragmentation, though ext3 is already pretty frag resistant.
[16:40] <JuJuBee> So prob ok with ext3 for average use?
[16:40] <DarthFrog> yes.
[16:41] <JuJuBee> So is my thought a fairly painless way to do it?  or is there a better way than reinstalling everything from scratch... (I know I need to reinstall os)
[16:41] <DarthFrog> To do what?
[16:42] <JuJuBee> I want to end up with the same machine / configuration after changing the fs
[16:42] <DarthFrog> From ext3 to ext4?
[16:42] <JuJuBee> yes
[16:43] <DarthFrog> My suggestion?  Buy a second hard drive, install the OS there and copy over your data.  that way your original system is untouched and you can run the two systems in parallel.
[16:45] <Izinucs> or create another partition that is next to your current /home.. format the way you want and copy your data there then reinstall..
[16:46] <DarthFrog> Painless is a very flexible term.  What you consider painful and a lot of work, I might consider routine.
[16:46] <DarthFrog> And if you want to end up where you started, why bother in the first place?
[16:48] <JuJuBee> Well, we use ghost to deploy images and updates.  I wanted to use it to deploy to my linux machines also but I think it does not support ext4 yet.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> !ghost
[16:49] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[16:49] <JuJuBee> We gave a ghostcast server that we store all images on.
[16:49] <JuJuBee> :D
[16:49] <BluesKaj> !copy
[16:49] <JuJuBee> Thought it would work in my situation
[16:49] <JuJuBee> !clone
[16:50] <BluesKaj> there's alinux ghost type app, i just can't recall the right name for it
[16:50] <DarthFrog> g4l
[16:50] <JuJuBee> g4linux or
[16:50] <JuJuBee> ^
[16:50] <JuJuBee> never had much luck with it...
[16:51] <kaddi> is virtuoso installed by default when upgrading to lucid? And if so what does it do?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> aha ,I knew there was one
[16:51] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[16:52] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: I'm far from a file system expert but I know you can convert between ext2fs and ext3fs very easily.  But I doubt you can go from ext3fs to/from ext4fs without reformatting.  But I don't know for sure.
[16:52] <adubz> how do i change the icon of one file
[16:52] <evilshadeslayer_> DarthFrog: that can be done
[16:52] <DarthFrog> kaddi: virtuoso is the database backend to nepomuk and (I think) strigi.
[16:52] <adubz> it is a java jar file i dont want to change the icon for all jar files just the one program i am trying to use
[16:52] <DarthFrog> evilshadeslayer_: Without data loss?
[16:52] <JuJuBee> I dont mind formatting, just didn't want to go through all the apt-get install stuff.  ! clone is what I was talking bout...
[16:52] <kaddi> nepomuk does what again? Filesearches?
[16:52] <evilshadeslayer_> DarthFrog: yes
[16:52] <evilshadeslayer_> !ext4
[16:53] <evilshadeslayer_> bah they havent added it yet
[16:53] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: There you go.  evilshadeslayer_ gives you the info you need.
[16:53] <evilshadeslayer_> DarthFrog: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[16:53] <kaddi> lol, not soemthing I wanna turn of I think
[16:53] <evilshadeslayer_> JuJuBee: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[16:54] <DarthFrog> Aha, it is possible to convert from ext3 to ext4.  But it looks like the conversion is irreversible.
[16:54] <evilshadeslayer_> JuJuBee: this is more specific : https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[16:55] <evilshadeslayer_> DarthFrog: of course..
[16:55] <DarthFrog> evilshadeslayer_: JuJuBee was wanting to know if it were possible.  ext4 -> ext3
[16:55] <inteliwasp> what is the command to resetup the xorg.conf file?
[16:56] <kaddi> on a different note: I can't change any settings for display brightness, it doesn't even change brightness when I unplug the powersupply. It was last working with kernel 2.6.28. Is there anything that might need to be enable or such
[16:56] <evilshadeslayer_> DarthFrog: nah.. i dont think thats possible...
[16:56] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: nvidia card?
[16:56] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: yes...
[16:56] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: proprietary drivers? then : sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:57] <JuJuBee> Yea, no wrong direction...
[16:57] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: You could copy your /var/cache/apt directory and that would give you all the packages again, without downloading them.
[16:57] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: thanks, trying it now
[16:57] <JuJuBee> no biggie, I will use the clone suggestion
[16:57] <JuJuBee> !automate
[16:57] <evilshadeslayer_> JuJuBee: hehe :P
[16:57] <evilshadeslayer_> oohh thats old
[16:57] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: got a validation error
[16:57] <JuJuBee> gotta love recursion :P
[16:58] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: If you want to know more about ext4:  http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4
[16:58] <DarthFrog> That should be in the bot.
[16:58] <francesco_> jOIN COLLI
[17:00] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: can you pastebin the entire error?
[17:01] <mavErik> hi, i've got a problem with kde...after the last shout down, when i restart the sistem it star with gnome...my desktopit' similar to ubuntu...anyone had solutions?
[17:02] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: i have been having issues with pasebin in lynk
[17:02] <evilshadeslayer_> uh.. just copy and paste to www.paste.ubuntu.com and paste the url here
[17:03] <JuJuBee> DarthFrog: thanks some good info there.  Improving fsck can only be a good thing ;)
[17:03] <JuJuBee> I hate the wait...
[17:04] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: it will be a few minutesm updateing system
[17:04] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: As do I.
[17:05] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: ok
[17:05] <mavErik> i've got a problem with kde...after the last shout down, when i restart the sistem it star with gnome...my desktopit' similar to ubuntu...anyone had solutions?
[17:05] <JuJuBee> what is the command to list the fs type for each partition?
[17:06] <evilshadeslayer_> JuJuBee: df -h ?
[17:06] <JuJuBee> no not  size, fs type ext3 etc...
[17:07] <JuJuBee> fdisk -l only says linux for fs type
[17:07] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: i got the error to go away(updated pakeges and installed build-essential)
[17:07] <JuJuBee> sorry System
[17:08] <evilshadeslayer_> JuJuBee: sudo fdisk -l
[17:08] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: cool.. now just logout and press alt+E
[17:08] <JuJuBee> Only shows System is Linux
[17:08] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: or "mount".
[17:08] <JuJuBee> DarthFrog: thats better
[17:08] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: log out of all my tty sessions?
[17:08] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: But only shows mounted filesystems.
[17:09] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: nah.. wont be necessary
[17:09] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: just the X session
[17:10] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: i just restart kdm right?
[17:10] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: yes
[17:11] <deusr> hi
[17:11] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: nope did not work
[17:12] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: whats the problem now?
[17:12] <inteliwasp> let me look at the log...
[17:12] <fabioz> this problem is with start X session?
[17:13] <DarthFrog> JuJuBee: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"  will also show fs types.
[17:13] <evilshadeslayer_> fabioz: yeah
[17:13] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: "no screens found"
[17:13] <JuJuBee> cool
[17:13] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: you did move the old one right?
[17:14] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_: what do you mean?
[17:14] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: like sudo  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak
[17:14] <deusr> Can anyone help me? I updated the version of kubuntu 9:10 to 10:04 and networkmanager icon missing from systray
[17:15] <fabioz> inteliwasp: can you paste the error message here?
[17:15] <evilshadeslayer_> inteliwasp: i have rto go, fabioz might be able to help
[17:15] <evilshadeslayer_> s/rto/to
[17:15] <evilshadeslayer_> fabioz: can you help him>
[17:16] <DarthFrog> deusr: What happens when you type "knetworkmanager" at the console?
[17:16] <fabioz> sorry :)
[17:16] <inteliwasp> evilshadeslayer_:i am looking at xorg.conf and it looks incomplete, the top part is not there...
[17:16] <BluesKaj> deusr, alt+f2, knetworkmanager
[17:16] <inteliwasp> er that was to fabioz
[17:17] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: No, not alt-F2.  At the console.
[17:17] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Alt-F2 (i.e. krunner) won'
[17:17] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Alt-F2 (i.e. krunner) won't report back any errors.
[17:17] <JuJuBee> Bahhh seems ghost won't backup ext3 either...
[17:18] <deusr> Dark_Wizard, BluesKaj, I'm remotely via ssh / chroot in the machine, but I think I managed to get something and I'll see if I can access the machine graphically and it'll tell you!
[17:19] <inteliwasp> fabioz: can i just run the command that rebuilds xorg.conf then reun the nvidia-xconfig again?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, i wasn't asking to see errors , merely to launch NM
[17:19] <deusr> Dark_Wizard, BluesKaj which the command to reinstall the package? reconfigure ...?
[17:20] <fabioz> yes
[17:20] <DarthFrog> deusr: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[17:20] <fabioz> with dpkg-reconfig?
[17:20] <deusr> Dark_Wizard, ok!
[17:20] <Dark_Wizard> deusr, ????
[17:21] <DarthFrog> deusr: Umm, not my nick. :-)
[17:21] <BluesKaj> deusr, in the terminal or at the tty , sudo aptitude install network-manager-kde
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Dark_Wizard: He's using tab nick completion and getting it wrong. :-)
[17:21] <deusr> I added two nameserver in resolv.conf manually, if I restart the computer the content will be deleted?
[17:21] <Dark_Wizard> DarthFrog, :)))
[17:21] <deusr> Dark_Wizard, ehhe, sorry
[17:22] <DarthFrog> deusr: "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" will make sure it doesn't get deleted.
[17:24] <deusr> DarkriftX, ;)
[17:26] <DarthFrog> deusr: How about typing "Dart" then press Tab?  :-)
[17:27] <deusr> yes :p
[17:39] <allee-k_> ah, n-m-k discussion ;)   Can I expect network-manager-kde (lucid) to work with a Cisco VPN (vpnc)?  Here is does not :(  n-m-gnome never had the problem)
[17:41] <allee-k_> daemon.log is not really a help: NetworkManager: <info>  VPN plugin failed: 1
[17:43] <Nexlinka1> Hello everyone
[17:44] <Mamarok> !hi | Nexlinka1
[17:45] <Nexlinka1> I have a Nexlink computer that i installed kubuntu 10.4 on and for some reason the internet wont work...
[17:45] <Nexlinka1> how would i go about getting the drivers or whatever is needed for the onboard eth0?
[17:48] <allee-k_> Nexlinka1: if 'ifconfig'  lists eth0 the kernel has already the driver
[17:49] <Nexlinka1> well it says in my taskbar eth0 automatic but also says not connected or whatever and i have no internet connection, all the other computers in my bussiness have a connection and i know the line is good was just working on another computer...
[17:52] <deusr> DarthFrog, The notebook of my father is having problems connecting to the network manager is appearing tarefaz bar, but is disabled and second he has no option to activate. I'll remove the networ-manager and install wicd: / should solve
[17:53] <zus> hello everyone
[17:53] <deusr> DarthFrog, I'm in another city, then I have to ask it to boot with the CD, install teamtewer to access and then I chroot: /
[17:54] <zus> does anyone work with actionscript3? what program can i use to do flash with in GNU/Linux?
[17:57] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[17:57] <rork> hi
[17:57] <m_tadeu> I can't shutdown or reboot
[17:58] <m_tadeu> when choosing that on the menu, it does nothing....what can be wrong?
[17:59] <discozohan> Should i install pidgin in KDE ?
[17:59] <discozohan> or its better to use kopote ?
[17:59] <allee-k> m_tadeu:    tail -f ~/.xsession-errors   # then try to shutdown/reboot again
[18:00] <rork> discozohan: IMHO install the one you like best :)
, i am asking as pidgin need some gnome libraries and i am not sure, is it ok or not ;)
[18:01] <discozohan> needs*
[18:02] <m_tadeu> allee-k: nothing shows up
[18:02] <rork> discozohan: you can install kde and gnome on one system so that shouldn't be a problem
[18:04] <zus> would blender, gimp, inkscape,   be compatible with adobe cs4?
[18:07] <allee-k> m_tadeu: did you try both, shutdown from k-menu and alt-ctrl-del dialog?
[18:08] <allee-k> (sometimes after updates short-cut method did work anymore here)
[18:14] <m_tadeu> allee-k: sorry, my laptop just booted on ot's own
[18:18] <islington> lucid file system checks seem really slow
[18:21] <m_tadeu> anyone has any idea? my laptop doesn't shutdown or reboot from the menu... .xsession-error doesn't shuw anything
[18:25] <allee-k> m_tadeu: only from menu?  Or at all?   E.g. Pressing power button or  logout, alt-ctrl-f1, login,  sudo shutdown -r now
[18:25] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering where the downloaded packages are stored when I do sudo apt-get install?
[18:26] <allee-k> bdizzle: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:26] <m_tadeu> if I "sudo reboot" from konsole it works
[18:26] <allee-k> bdizzle: apt-get clean  # to get rid of them ;)
[18:26] <bdizzle> gotcha, thanks
[18:26] <m_tadeu> allee-k: doesn't work from kde
[18:27] <bdizzle> no, I need to borrow them for a computer with a partially non-functioning computer
[18:27] <deusr> please, someone help me!! -> http://img100.imageshack.us/i/capturadetelapk.png/
[18:28] <deusr> I did a chroot, I install wicd and gave an error.
[18:29] <deusr> rode..
[18:29] <bdizzle> err, what language is that in?
[18:29] <djustice> deusr: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' ?
[18:29] <allee-k> m_tadeu: sorry no idea anymore :(
[18:29] <deusr> mount -t proc none /mnt/sda4/proc && mount -o bind /dev /mnt/sda4/dev && chroot /mnt/sda4 /bin/bash
[18:30] <djustice> deusr: ah. a remaster.
[18:30] <deusr> djustice, no
[18:31] <deusr> djustice, My father lives in another city, was without the net, I am accessing via livecd / teemviwer / chroot to tamper with the system
[18:31] <m_tadeu> allee-k: ok thanx :)
[18:33] <m_tadeu> if anyone else have any idea of hats going on, help would be apreciated :)
[18:35] <bdizzle> okay, I tried installing w32codecs, libdvdcss2, and the gstreamer libs and packages. Why is Amarok still skipping through the entire playlist without playing anything?
[18:37] <claxon> hej :)
[18:40] <harolddong> run amarok from the terminal and see what it says when you try to play stuff
[18:41] <AhmedBH> how do i COMPLETELY DISABLE apache2 ? i turn it off by service apache2 stop
[18:41] <AhmedBH> but runs after a while again !
[18:41] <bdizzle> no, I think that I'm missing libxine1-ffmpeg
[18:42] <bdizzle> how do I download the .deb file without it installing from CLI/
[18:44] <harolddong> how do I unstall networkmanager and the kde networkmanager plasmoid in lucid.  I would rather use wicd and in the past installing wicd would remove al the networkmanager related packages automatically. In Lucid it doesn't, so bth wicd and net networkmanger plasmoid are starting at login.
[18:44] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, if you have kubuntu-restricted-extras , you should be able to install it from the cli
[18:45] <rork> bdizzle: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg -d
[18:45] <rork> bdizzle: the -d switch means you only download the file but don't install it
[18:46] <BluesKaj> -d , it's not a dev app , rork
[18:46] <bdizzle> gotcha, thanks
[18:46] <bdizzle> I'm having serious issues with wireless on my desktop, so I'm having to download the files on my laptop and then transfer the files
[18:46] <bdizzle> so its rather annoying
[18:47] <bdizzle> nope, that would be the other file I'm missing
[18:47] <bdizzle> no wonder mp3 and mpeg files aren't palying
[18:48] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, install ffmpeg as well, if it isn't already
[18:48] <BluesKaj> bbl
[18:49] <bdizzle> yeah
[18:49] <bdizzle> I hate the wireless here, I really do, and to save costs, they haven't installed any wired connections, dumbasses
[18:51] <terran4000> Hey, why does Lucid ask me to skip or manually try to mount /proc/usb (or something) at each boot?
[18:51] <terran4000> and how can I get rid of that?
[18:56] <terran4000> Hm, or how abotu this one:
[18:57] <terran4000> I used WICD instead of knetworkmanager ... is there a way to make it NOT ask me for 'administrative' privelages each time I log in so wicd can start?
[18:57] <m_tadeu> does anyone know why clicking on shutdown doesn't show the shutdown window?
[18:59] <bdizzle> finally, I have audio and video support
[18:59] <bdizzle> now my desktop isn't completely useless
[18:59] <bdizzle> thank you
[19:05] <rpreshaw857> can i run ubntu stuf on kubntu?
[19:05] <rpreshaw857> !caps
[19:06] <rpreshaw857> can i run ubuntu apps on kubuntu
[19:06] <rpreshaw857> ?????????????????
[19:07] <bdizzle> yes, ofcourse rpreshaw857
[19:07] <bdizzle> just install the program and it will automatically install any ubuntu dependencies
[19:07] <rpreshaw857> no
[19:07] <bdizzle> its hard to have a pure ubuntu or pure kubuntu system
[19:07] <rpreshaw857> is boe
[19:07] <rpreshaw857> unbtnu
[19:08] <rpreshaw857> 9.10 .10.04
[19:08] <rpreshaw857> can i    get firefox
[19:08] <bdizzle> yes
[19:08] <rpreshaw857> how
[19:09] <bdizzle> just install it?
[19:09] <rpreshaw857>  is not working of  me
[19:09] <bdizzle> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> rpreshaw857@rpreshaw857-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> [sudo] password for rpreshaw857:
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> Reading package lists... Done
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> Building dependency tree
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> Reading state information... Done
[19:09] <FloodBotK1> rpreshaw857: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <rpreshaw857> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:10] <bdizzle> okay, so you have to allow it install from the universe or multiverse repositories
[19:10] <rpreshaw857> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433479/
[19:11] <rpreshaw857> how?
[19:11] <bdizzle> you should just be able to click on the firefox link and it will automatically install
[19:11] <rpreshaw857> is not doing it
[19:11] <rpreshaw857> http://paste.ubuntu.com/433479/
[19:12] <bdizzle> I dunno then
[19:12] <bdizzle> do some research on it
[19:12] <rpreshaw857> ok
[19:13] <rpreshaw857> the requested packages are already installed
[19:14] <rpreshaw857> im on 10.04 LTS
[19:17] <rpreshaw857> hoe cna have my panle back
[19:18] <terran4000> How can I stop WICD from asking for administrative privelages at each boot?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> terran4000, did you use sudo when installing wicd /
[19:23] <terran4000> BluesKaj: yar, sudo apt-get install ..........
[19:24] <jensoko> Hi. Is this the place to come to for help?
[19:25] <smokealot> yeah
[19:25] <jensoko> Great. Do I just jump in and ask?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> terran4000, i think there's a "run as admin" option
[19:26] <terran4000> That seems very Windows 7-isk o.O
[19:27] <jensoko> Can anyone help with kubuntu netbook remix 10.04? I've attempted to install it on my Thinkpad x100e and it hangs after login
[19:29] <jensoko> anyone...Bueller?
[19:30] <speedvin_> Hello all
[19:34] <vonkleist> hi all, is there any way to get rid of the "link" text that replaces the actual link on a kopete chat window?
[19:35] <jensoko> I'm using quassel. I wish I could help
[19:36] <jensoko> Anybody know anything about Kubuntu Netbook Remix?
[19:39] <zus> is inkscape, gimp, blender, kompzer at all CS4 (adobe) compatible? [like Oo.o can open word]
[19:40] <jensoko> gimp can use photoshop brushes
[19:40] <jensoko> and I think can open certain types of photoshop files.
[19:41] <zus> i might can find work but i need to make sure these programs can be opened in cs4
[19:42] <ionut> how can i change the keyboard language in ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[19:43] <zus> my friends dad works in aviation security and training. and needs actionscript3 coders and vector drawings
[19:43] <zus> but they use cs4
[20:30] <vince_> Hi everyone
[20:31] <KOLANICH> hello all
[20:31] <vince_> hi KOLANICH
[20:32] <KOLANICH> have anybody used microxwin
[20:32] <speedvin_> hi
[20:33] <KOLANICH> >	have anybody used microxwin
[20:33] <KOLANICH> has
[20:34] <hceasyon> ?
[20:34] <hceasyon> what is microxwin ?
[20:34] <vince_> I've got a problem with wine, playing QUake II atm, everything's working pretty well but the sound is just awful
[20:35] <b3ny0-> why do you use wine for quake 2?
[20:35] <speedvin_> hceasyon: It's X micro version
[20:35] <b3ny0-> I thought all ID Software games had a native version for linux
[20:35] <vince_> I don't know how to install it, since all linux installers aren't that user-friendly, you know :p
[20:36] <KOLANICH> X Window Systems is a standard graphics framework for Unix/Linux desktops. There are large number of GUI toolkits and applications already written for X Windows Xlib API. X Windows is a network oriented and client-server design with the X server responsible for all graphics operations.
[20:36] <KOLANICH> MicroXwin is binary compatible to the Xlib API. However it is neither client server nor network oriented. Graphics operations are implemented in the linux kernel via a kernel module. An open source Xlib library sends graphics commands to the kernel. There is no network overhead and no context switch from X client to X server. This makes our solution smaller and faster than traditional X Windows.
[20:37] <vince_> and I read that Quake II was running way smoother with wine
[20:44] <jensoko> hi. Anybody active on here?
[20:45] <vince_> Hi :)
[20:45] <jensoko> I'm looking for help with an install of kubuntu 10.04 on a netbook
[20:46] <vince_> Alright, what do you need ?
[20:46] <jensoko> I used usb-creator to make abootabl  usb thumb drive
[20:46] <jensoko> *bootable
[20:46] <jensoko> with the iso on it
[20:46] <vince_> yes
[20:46] <jensoko> whenever I boot my netbook (Thinkpad x100e)
[20:47] <jensoko> from the usb, I can get the initial language screen and first menu, but when I try to run from the thumbdrive
[20:47] <jensoko> it hangs at the little picture of the hard drive
[20:47] <jensoko> keyboard unresponsive, and I end up having to hard reboot
[20:48] <vince_> I wish I could help you but I've never installed ubuntu from usb nor used netbooks :|
[20:49] <jensoko> my iso seems fine--matches the chksum
[20:50] <jensoko> and things *look* like they're progressing, until that initialization screen. When I tried to install from the LiveCD usb drive, things seemed to go fine all the way through, my partitions were successful
[20:51] <jensoko> and the reboot led me past the login screen, but then I got the same hangup thing.
[20:51] <jensoko> I'm not sure if it's 10.04, or the usb drive itself, or usb-creator
[20:52] <slow-motion> hi
[20:52] <jensoko> hi!
[21:02] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a ubuntuone frontend for kde in lucid?
[21:02] <vince_> I'm afraid not
[21:03] <m_tadeu> and is there a nice way to use the gnome version?
[21:04] <vince_> apart from installing the entire gnome envrionnement, I don't think so :s, but i may be wrong, i'm not an expert
[21:07] <vince_> m_tadeu: check this out
[21:07] <vince_> http://digitizor.com/2009/11/26/kde-gets-a-ubuntu-one-frontend-and-how-to-install-it/
[21:19] <Kubry> Hi. Does anyone use ktimetracker and has found that can not edit well the times?
[21:21] <vince_> m_tadeu: ?
[21:22] <m_tadeu> I trying it...it's not adding the repository...keeps requesting the key
[21:24] <vince_> :/
[21:25] <stuq> hi all - so is pulseaudio supposed to be working in 10.04?
[21:25] <stuq> defualt install, i get no sound
[21:25] <stuq> remove pulseaudio sound comes back...
[21:26] <m_tadeu> I found a git repo and I'm trying this now....
[21:28] <vince_> I have to go, hope you'll sort everything out m_tadeu
[21:28] <vince_> bye
[21:28] <m_tadeu> oki...thx for your help :)
[21:40] <jimmy51_> have a nice weekend fellow kubu'ers.
[21:40]  * jimmy51_ shuts off the lights and heads to the parking lot
[22:12] <starslights> hello to everyone, sorry, i have not mean that i will be reconnected, i go sleeping, cya soon bye
[22:57] <txukie> Hi, I have a problem on a Kubuntu Lucid install, the system keeps freezing and rebooting randomly
[22:57] <txukie> I see no logs or indications of what is going on
[22:57] <txukie> I have run a memtest and I cant find any problems
[22:58] <txukie> I have an nvidia card but crash occurs both with propietary driver and vesa driver
[22:59] <txukie> anyone can give me any indications?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> txukie, run dmesg tail  and look for errors in the output
[23:11] <txukie> BluesKaj: thought dmesg only kept current kernel messages since reboot
[23:12] <BluesKaj> well ? are there any errors?
[23:14] <txukie> cant see any
[23:15] <txukie> hold on
[23:15] <txukie> http://pastebin.com/pnjrH68B
[23:18] <BluesKaj> looks like you have some IRQ interrupts diisabled
[23:19] <txukie> uhm...weird, isnt that activated on the bios normally?
[23:19] <BluesKaj> are you rebooting when a particular app when this happens?
[23:20] <BluesKaj> err opening an app
[23:20] <txukie> no its totally random
[23:20] <txukie> it tends to happen when im actually doing something on the computer
[23:20] <txukie> but sometimes it reboots on its own after hours or days of idle
[23:23] <BluesKaj> txukie, hmm there was a prob with high cpu usage, for no apparent reason ,in karmic when it was first released ,but i can't recall what the fix was.
[23:24] <BluesKaj> thinking maybe your cpu may be overheating oe some such
[23:24] <txukie> so you think its overheating?....Ok ill dismantle and take a look inside, give it a clean and new termic paste if necessary
[23:25] <txukie> whats the actual failsafe temperature though?
[23:25] <BluesKaj> txukie, a friend was complaining about similar sympto=ms earlier today , he was getting freezes first tho, then random reboots
[23:26] <jsmullikenca> Hey folks, I've just re-installed 10.04 on my VMWare sled, and was looking for some evidence that there is a firewall running.  Does Ubuntu install and setup a firewall as part of the defaul build?
[23:26] <BluesKaj> depends on your processor
[23:26] <txukie> core 2 duo e6400
[23:26] <BluesKaj> !firewall | jsmullikenca,
[23:27] <BluesKaj> txukie,on karmic or lucid?
[23:27] <txukie> lucid
[23:28] <jsmullikenca> Hey BluesKaj, are you asking me what firewall?
[23:29] <jsmullikenca> Okay, the 'ufu' util is a CLI tool?
[23:29] <BluesKaj> jsmullikenca, no I'm giving something to check out ...I'm behind a router so I dunno much about linux FWs
[23:30] <txukie> jsmullikenca: run sudo ufw status
[23:30] <jsmullikenca> And maybe I should clarify.  I'm trying to help a friend, who just installed on a netbook he has, and he was trying to share one of the shared drives from his Windoze box, and was having trouble.  I thought it may have been a firewall issue.
[23:30] <jsmullikenca> I looked around under "System" menu, but didn't see any tool for firewall config.
[23:31] <jsmullikenca> But you guys may know what the issue is, so I'll welcome any suggestions.
[23:31] <BluesKaj> the fw on the windows box should be configged
[23:32] <txukie> jsmullikenca: run "sudo ufw status"
[23:32] <jsmullikenca> I came back with "sudo: ufu: command not found".
[23:32] <BluesKaj> jsmullikenca, how is he accessing the windows share , smb networking thru dolphin ?
[23:32] <jsmullikenca> Yeah, he has the smbd daemon running.
[23:33] <BluesKaj> is the windows pc asking for user and pw ?
[23:33] <dkelewae> yes
[23:33] <jsmullikenca> But he was trying to click-drive to it through the "Places" menu.  Got his Win box to show up, but then couldn't connect to the share.
[23:33] <dkelewae> when i enter it takes forever then times out
[23:33] <jsmullikenca> That's him now.
[23:34] <txukie> jsmullikenca: its ufw not ufu
[23:34] <crazy6> is there any way to get texmacs to install properly? http://pastebin.com/GevmcLA5
[23:35] <jsmullikenca> Sorry, that was a typo in IRC, not on the CLI
[23:35] <jsmullikenca> Sorry, yes it was a typo on the CLI, let me retry.
[23:36] <BluesKaj> dkelewae, using a router on the lan ?
[23:36] <jsmullikenca> inactive.
[23:37] <jsmullikenca> I'm pretty sure he is running off of a wireless router, yes.
[23:37] <dkelewae> yes
[23:38] <jsmullikenca> dkelewae, did you run the "sudo ufw status" command?
[23:38] <BluesKaj> dkelewae, if you knwo what the ip address is , then run the network and add network folder in dolphin , adailog should come up and fill in the appropriate boxes and shared folser on the windows pc
[23:39] <dkelewae> inactive
[23:39] <BluesKaj> folder
[23:40] <jsmullikenca> Is Dolphin the Network browswer that comes up when you select the "Network" option off of the "Places" menu?
[23:40] <Guest39412> yes
[23:41] <Guest39412> does anybody know how to fix the statusbar in Openoffice running KDE?
[23:41] <Guest39412> it just looks empty
[23:41] <jsmullikenca> Got it, so you select "File - Connect to Server", then select "Windows share"?
[23:42] <jsmullikenca> Fill in the user name and password, and it should hook up.  Last time I set up Samba, there was an issue with the passwords needing to be encrypted.  Is that something that needs to be added to smb.conf still?
[23:44] <jsmullikenca> Anybody....anybody....Bueller?
[23:46] <txukie> ok computer just rebooted and cpu temperature was about 75ºcelsius, doesnt look too good but i dont know if thats so critical
[23:46] <slow-motion> n8
[23:47] <jsmullikenca> That's 167 degrees Fahrenheit.
[23:47] <jsmullikenca> That's toasty.
[23:48] <kaddi> hi, how can i turn of strigi/nepumokstrigiservice.. they are using 100% of both my CPU's and I kinda need them for other stuff :p
[23:48] <kaddi> !strigi
[23:48] <DarthFrog> kaddi: You can disable them in System Settings/Advanced.
[23:49] <txukie> even now on the bios it remains at 75ºC
[23:49] <DarthFrog> In the Desktop Search section.
[23:49] <jsmullikenca> How do you get to "System Settings"?
[23:50] <kaddi> thanks
[23:50] <kaddi> @ DarthFrog
[23:50] <DarthFrog> jsmullikenca: It's in the Kickoff menu.
[23:51] <DarthFrog> jsmullikenca: Or press Alt-F2 and type "systemsettings".
[23:51] <jsmullikenca> Thanks Darth, but I just realized.  I'm running a default Ubuntu, so I'm running Gnome, and knot KDE.  Is that maybe why these menu options don't sound familiar to me?
[23:52] <DarthFrog> jsmullikenca: Ya think?  :-))
[23:52] <jsmullikenca> Okay, my bad.
[23:53] <jsmullikenca> Just so you know, I'm a KDE'er at heart.  Just installed this to support my good friend, who has made his first venture into Linux, by installing Ubuntu on his netbook, taking yet another piece of market share from the evil empire!!!!
[23:55] <jsmullikenca> Whoa.... not nearly as many Linux revolutionaries on the IRC channels as there used to be.
[23:55] <DarthFrog> An OS is a tool, not a religious choice.
[23:56] <jsmullikenca> The force is weak with this one.
[23:56] <txukie> I agree, I dont use linux to run away from the evil empire, I use it because its the best tool for me and because i believe in open standards
[23:59] <jsmullikenca> Okay, maybe I'm too much of a hopeless romantic.  I've been making my living supporting products running on Linux for over a decade now.  I just still love the fact that there is a "community" of like minded folks who are willing to help.  And willing to write code to do useful things for folks.


[03:46] <vish> chrisccoulson: hi, i was waiting for Amaranth , he seemed to favor a compiz 0.8.8 update, if he dint have time i could do just that one bug..
[03:47] <vish> chrisccoulson: btw, i'd built the patch yesterday, and i dont seem to be getting any problems.
[09:08] <gnome3onnatty> Hi guys, is here a place to talk about gnome3 and natty?
[16:50] <cyphermox> howdy
[19:12] <bcurtiswx> Where's all the partyin going on here???
[19:13] <bcurtiswx> the District of Columbia LoCo team is here at Taste Of India :) woot woot
[19:15] <mterry> :)
[20:32] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, so are we here in Montreal, jamming ;)
[20:32] <cyphermox> I managed to coerce a few adventurous LoCo members to file bugs and test Natty
[20:39] <bcurtiswx> \o/ cyphermox
[20:40] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, I'm happily finding interesting small bugs in unity right now
[20:42] <bcurtiswx> i've found one emapthy bug, and im trying to go through my backlog of empathy bugs... 130ish remaining
[20:43] <cyphermox> ah, ok
[20:43] <cyphermox> I took one earlier to give a quick bug triaging tutorial
[20:45] <bcurtiswx> take as many as you want
[20:45] <bcurtiswx> actually can you confirm a bug for me
[20:46] <bcurtiswx> empathy crashes for me and another person on launch, just verify with the most recent updates that it works
[20:47] <cyphermox> on launch?
[20:48] <cyphermox> nah, seems to start here just fine, I must have rebooted a couple of times already
[20:49] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, OK thx
[20:49] <cyphermox> just restarted it, works fine
[20:49] <cyphermox> unless it's something specific to a service you use that I don't?
[20:49] <bcurtiswx> im gonna restart, see what happend
[21:16] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, darn still crash...
[21:16] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, another things to try...
[21:16] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, add a MSN account and have someone add you to their contact list.
[21:16] <bcurtiswx> if you get time
[21:16] <cyphermox> ok, I already have my MSN account added, hold on
[21:17] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, if you get a minute and are online, lemme know
[21:23] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, I was able to reproduce it
[21:23] <cyphermox> deuxpi added me to his list and it appears as though empathy crashed
[21:26] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, it's bug 747066 right?
[21:27] <bcurtiswx> bug #747066
[21:27] <cyphermox> good
[21:27]  * bcurtiswx kicks ubot2
[21:27] <bcurtiswx> no no im trying to find link
[21:27] <bcurtiswx> i reportd a bug
[21:27] <cyphermox> so it's not 747066?
[21:28] <bcurtiswx> one sec, lemme look lol.. i was trying to get ubo2 to post the link to it
[21:28] <cyphermox> ok
[21:28] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, a segfault in _empathy_marshal_VOID__OBJECT_OBJECT_UINT_STRING_BOOLEAN()?
[21:30] <bcurtiswx> mine is diff i think... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/748535
[21:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 748535 in empathy "empathy crashed with SIGSEGV in event_manager_add" [Undecided,New]
[21:30] <bcurtiswx> i ran it in gdb
[21:32] <cyphermox> heh, seems to be the same error, just a little cleaner trace perhaps
[21:36] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, now my empathy won't start anymore!! tsk tsk tsk ;)
[21:37] <bcurtiswx> cyphermox, yeah me either :-\
[21:37] <bcurtiswx> i wish cassidy was around
[21:39] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, you'd essentially just need to have a way to accept the request, I guess
[21:40] <bcurtiswx> hmmm
[21:42] <cyphermox> trying on hotmail itself , maybe that will work
[22:07] <cyphermox> bcurtiswx, I had to clear much of my config
[22:07] <cyphermox> anyway, bbl
[22:59] <bcurtiswx> cassidy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/748535 when you get back in on Monday
[22:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 748535 in empathy "empathy crashed with SIGSEGV in event_manager_add" [Undecided,New]