[12:42] <redguy> god, right, forgot about that
[12:42] <RShadow> frogzoo, now is argument supplied for "time" and is required.
[12:42] <Sakunix> its awesome it picks up your card name and pci busid automatically
[12:42] <god> done :)
[12:43] <webben> god: done? that worked?
[12:43] <Sakunix> so only thing you have to do is choose nv or nvidia
[12:43] <webben> connected fine?
[12:43] <god> yeh
[12:43] <kizzume> Well, if that's the case, it will go right along with working with a system admin for 8 hours on my soundcard, and I'll probably be trying another distro of linux after that... this distro has been a major headache...
[12:43] <webben> definitely try elinks
[12:43] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: if you have an ATI card, it might be a good idea to use the ati drivers instead.
[12:43] <god> cant install :p
[12:43] <god> apt-get doesnt work
[12:43] <webben> oh that's right
[12:43] <redguy> god, once conneted try issuing a get /
[12:44] <SVisor> god: "sudo iptables -P CHAIN ACCEPT" replace CHAIN with name of chain that is not ACCEPT
[12:44] <god> "connection refused"
[12:44] <webben> redguy - if *I* do that "get /" - i get Connection closed
[12:44] <J-_> is there an autocad program that i can run in linux?
[12:44] <kizzume> okay, well, I'm gonna restart now and see if it works.
[12:44] <webben> redguy: and my connection is fine
[12:44] <frogzoo> RShadow: man shutdown
[12:44] <kizzume> thanks all for all of your help.  YOu've had a lot of patience with me.
[12:44] <RShadow> frogzoo, shutdown -r +2 is what I needed.. and I'm looking at the man pages now
[12:45] <god> grrrr! i've tried everything
[12:45] <webben> god: do you have curl installed
[12:45] <Sakunix> kizzume you shoudl be able to alt-ctrl=backsapce
[12:45] <god> no
[12:45] <Sakunix> ahh I missed him
[12:45] <Sakunix> worste
[12:45] <zcat[1] > RShadow: oh.. you wanted 2 minutes, not two hours :)
[12:45] <haffouff> when i type apt-get upgrade i have this error Impossible de rcuprer http://dev:3142/tn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0-0c2a_2.0.16-3_i386.deb  Taille incohrente
[12:45] <RShadow> zcat[1] , lol.. ya
[12:46] <Sakunix> whats a good way to create iso images with linux
[12:46] <Sakunix> dd dont seem to work that well for me
[12:46] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: mkisofs
[12:46] <frogzoo> Sakunix: k3b is the best
[12:46] <Sakunix> way good
[12:46] <SVisor> god: It can only be a firewall or DNS trouble. Make sure all policy are ACCEPT and no chains are listed. That way we can be sure its not a firewall issue.
[12:46] <zcat[1] > generally mkisofs -R -J -o foo.iso directory_to_add/
[12:46] <frogzoo> Sakunix: dd works great so long as there's no copy protection
[12:46] <Knome> J-_ - there's a program called qcad
[12:46] <SonicChao> haffouff: What language is that in? Spanish?
[12:46] <god> my firewall is fine
[12:47] <haffouff> no french
[12:47] <webben> god: maybe check your host files look okay?
[12:47] <zcat[1] > for making iso images of an existing CD, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso works quite well
[12:47] <SonicChao> haffouff: Oh, sorry, my bad, well if you're natively french, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-fr where people will be able to read it.
[12:47] <ompaul> !fr
[12:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <haffouff> !fr
[12:48] <god> my host files are fine :(
[12:48] <ompaul> haffouff, it onscreen for you now
[12:48] <SVisor> god: You did mention that not all was ACCEPT, but if you do not want to try that its fine by me.
[12:48] <god> its ok, the only ones that werent accept were moblock
[12:48] <JollyGnome> Good day to you people
[12:49] <god> which i no longer use
[12:49] <SonicChao> JollyGnome: Hi
[12:49] <haffouff> !fr
[12:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:49] <haffouff> #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <SonicChao> haffouff: What the?
[12:49] <ompaul> haffouff, non,      /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <JollyGnome> I just reinstalled breezy, the reason being that I tried yesterday to upgrade it to dapper, and it broke the system
[12:49] <m0gsi> Hey guys how do i broadcast a message over a terminal?
[12:49] <SonicChao> haffouff: Just type /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:50] <zcat[1] > m0gsi: echo "message" | wall
[12:50] <m0gsi> thx
[12:50] <JollyGnome> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from breezy (clean install, nothing added yet) to dapper
[12:50] <haffouff> ok
[12:50] <haffouff> thx
[12:50] <ompaul> !upgrade
[12:50] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:50] <g-nome> blaster999: should i place the kernel source in /usr/src or /usr/src/linux ?
[12:50] <Kizzume> Well, I'm back on Windows.  That didn't work at all, and it's the final straw for me and Ubuntu--I had better luck with debian, and that's supposed to be a harder to use distribution.
[12:50] <god> >.< im about to give up. thinkin of switchin back to windows :(
[12:50] <webben> god: might be worth doing a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <JollyGnome> thanks ubotu (you be a bot, eh?)
[12:51] <god> interfaces is fine, already checked it
[12:51] <Sakunix> Kizzume: you didnt need to restart
[12:51] <Sakunix> to restart the gui
[12:52] <Sakunix> alt-ctrl-backspace
[12:52] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: he did if he's dual-booting between ubuntu and windows :)
[12:52] <Sakunix> shuts down the gui
[12:52] <Sakunix> how was he talking to us before
[12:52] <Kizzume> Thanks all for your help, I feel bad about putting sobersabre through 8 hours of sound card troubleshooting just to have it fail in the end again.
[12:52] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: fairly certain he hasn't actually got multiverse going and never actually installed nvidia-glx..
[12:52] <Sakunix> ic
[12:52] <Sakunix> he/she sorry
[12:52] <Kizzume> I went through the steps that were told....
[12:53] <gandhi_2k6_> Hi, I had a problem with the root file system that had to be fixed manually using fschk upon startup but now while logining into my default system session on Dapper the Desktop doesn't load and only displays the background, if I select the session as "Gnome" it works but I cannot get Super User priveleges
[12:53] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: want to try again?
[12:53] <Sakunix> yer we are only ammatures too lol
[12:53] <Sakunix> Kizzume: what do you want to do with linux anyway
[12:53] <Kizzume> I don't know--I've now been working on this for 23 hours....
[12:53] <webben> zcat[1] :  what does nvidia-glx have to do with the sound card?
[12:53] <Sakunix> the nv drivers do the job for most people
[12:54] <zcat[1] > webben: he got sound going, he was trying to get 3d drivers
[12:54] <Kizzume> I want linux to be my internet and emulator machine and windows to be my productivity machine.
[12:54] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[12:54] <Sakunix> emulating?
[12:55] <Sakunix> Kizzume: SNES or seomthing?
[12:55] <zcat[1] > Sakunix: yeah, he wants to dual-boot linux so he can run wine on it :)
[12:55] <Kizzume> Old school computer emulation, like Vice and Frodo for c64, and mame, and n64, and stuff like that
[12:55] <Sakunix> yer all good
[12:55] <Sakunix> you would need the nvidia drivers for that
[12:55] <seamus> hey
[12:55] <jonah1980> hi guys, having problems - everytime i install something, update something or whatever from synaptic or terminal i get an error at the end: http://pastebin.ca/82346
[12:55] <Kizzume> there's a lot more versions of emulators for linux than there are for windows....
[12:56] <Sakunix> yer
[12:56] <Sakunix> well we are here if you want to try it again
[12:56] <jonah1980> selinux problem whatever that is, can anyone please help?
[12:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[12:56] <Kizzume> I've gotta go edit that file again back to nv instead of nvidia...  I just can't remember where it's located now...
[12:56] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <hintswen> anyone here know a good VNC program for windows(yes i know this isn't a windows room) I used to use RealVNC but people said not to use it cause u can't fully un-install it
[12:57] <Knome> jonah1980: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:57] <webben> Kizzume: what's your nvidia card? was there no decent howto for it?
[12:57] <redguy> hintswen, tighvnc
[12:57] <Kizzume> I've got a geforce fx 5500
[12:57] <Kizzume> 256mb
[12:57] <redguy> tightvnc that is
[12:57] <gandhi_2k6> Hi, I'm had to manually fix my root file system using fschck but now upon logging in to my default system session it just displays the background and fails to load the desktop
[12:57] <hintswen> thanks
[12:58] <zcat[1] > It's a three step process.. enable universe and multiverse repos, add nvidia-glx package, and change xorg.conf... I'm guessing you missed a step.
[12:58] <Kizzume> zcat[1] : what are universe and multiverse repos?
[12:59] <seamus> hey is anyone here running dapper
[12:59] <jonah1980> Knome: http://pastebin.ca/82348
[12:59] <Kizzume> zcat[1] :  I tried going to multiverse site, but none of them were the right site?  Is it .org, .com, .biz., .tv?
[12:59] <jonah1980> still errors
[12:59] <zcat[1] > run synaptic (it's on the system menu)
[12:59] <hintswen> if i use tightvnc, do i need to use tightvnc on my linux? or any vnc program?
[12:59] <zcat[1] > you don't go to any website. This isn't windows!
[12:59] <Sub> Kizzume, !universe
[12:59] <webben> kizzume: and what's exactly going wrong
[12:59] <Sub> !universe
[12:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:59] <bookLook> how to check if i have a user name squid created or not
[01:00] <zcat[1] > system > administration > synaptic
[01:00] <Kizzume> zcat[1] :  Okay.  First thing I've gotta do is edit that file... I'll be back....
[01:00] <bookLook> and if it is not there what is the command to create it ?
[01:00] <webben> Kizzume: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:00] <Fisk65> u\
[01:01] <hintswen> if i use tightvnc, do i need to use tightvnc on my linux? or any vnc program?
[01:01] <jonah1980> http://pastebin.ca/82348 - does anyone know what these selinux errors are and how i can fix them?
[01:01] <gatekeeper> hintswen, any should do
[01:01] <hintswen> k
[01:01] <Libra102> *** glibc detected *** vim: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x08dc1258 ***
[01:01] <seamus> hintswen: use vnc4server "sudo apt-get install vnc4server"
[01:01] <Libra102> I have this message..
[01:02] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: the answer to your next question is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:02] <gatekeeper> hintswen, I mix and match on windows machines
[01:02] <hintswen> umm, anyone wanna guide me through installing and setting up a VNC program on my ubuntu machine through the console? lol
[01:02] <Libra102> using the vi and.. saving..
[01:02] <ompaul> Libra102, what are you trying to edit?
[01:02] <seamus> hintswen: use vnc4server "sudo apt-get install vnc4server"
[01:02] <gandhi_2k6>  Hi, I'm had to manually fix my root file system using fschck but now upon logging in to my default system session it just displays the background and fails to load the desktop
[01:03] <hintswen> seamus, ok now what?
[01:03] <thenuke> jonah1980: google told me this. http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-beta-list/2004-April/msg00853.html
[01:03] <Libra102> my computer is Ubuntu and my server RedHat.
[01:03] <seamus> hintswen: well what exactly is it you want to do?
[01:03] <Libra102> ssh and.. vi ...
[01:03] <bookLook> is there any website where i can find all the conf files explained in easy english ?
[01:03] <hintswen> VNC my linux from my windows
[01:03] <bookLook> like squid.conf and httpd.conf
[01:03] <bookLook> ????????????????????????????????????????
[01:04] <ompaul> gandhi_2k6, some times you loose your desktop as it is - so you can removed the directory .gnome2 and it will all recreate at the next logon
[01:04] <donald> can i run photoshop in ubuntu
[01:04] <faddat> Can anyone tell me how to flush my DNS cache?
[01:04] <Libra102> [01:04] <Sakunix> donald: with effort yes
[01:04] <seamus> hintswen: so you can view your linux display in window sor vice-versa
[01:04] <thenuke> bookLook: tried googling?
[01:04] <hintswen> yea, so i can view linux from windows
[01:04] <faddat> Sakunix: are you still working on your NVIDIA card?
[01:04] <jonah1980> thenuke, thanks for that - what do you think it means?
[01:04] <Sakunix> donald: use gimp its the sa thing
[01:04] <bookLook> thenuke yes
[01:04] <zcat[1] > donald: yes, but gimp is easier and does most of the same stuff.. use gimpshop if you want something a little more like photoshop.
[01:05] <bookLook> cannot find
[01:05] <Sakunix> faddat: I got it working and now we have another people to help with the same issue
[01:05] <gandhi_2k6> thanks alot ompaul
[01:05] <seamus> hintswen: ok so your running ubuntu with gnome yea. get tightvnc and run it on windows
[01:05] <faddat> hehe gotcha man :)
[01:05] <Sakunix> Kizzume is also working on it
[01:05] <donald> thank you
[01:05] <faddat> Sakunix: you wouldn't know how to flush a DNS cache, would you?
[01:05] <DBO> faddat, unless you have installed a local DNS cacheing server, you dont HAVE a cache
[01:05] <faddat> I *really* need to do so
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: in ubuntu enable desktop sharing
[01:06] <faddat> Oh holy hell!
[01:06] <jonah1980> thenuke, is the error important and is it effecting anything do you think? also should i do what is suggested booting "enforcing=0" or whatever?
[01:06] <jonah1980> thenuke, i don't want to bust anything!!
[01:06] <DBO> faddat, you are most likely connecting to a DNS server that hasnt updated itself for whatever you need just yet
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: cant remember where it is, somewhere in the system menu, i'm running xfce
[01:06] <faddat> DBO:  So, I live in South Korea.  I cannot reach a few websites that I really like, I have no reason to believe that they are censored or whatever, I can reach them from other places.  I've changed my DNS server, and I've had no happy result.
[01:06] <seamus> hintswen: then connect to your linux box from windows, the port number will be 6000
[01:07] <hintswen> aww dam, can't do that unless i reboot it, can't reboot it cause then i won't be able to connect to IRC again lol
[01:07] <faddat> DBO:  Should I maybe reboot my computer?
[01:07] <hintswen> thx anyway
[01:07] <thenuke> jonah1980: I dont know anything about it.
[01:07] <DBO> faddat, i doubt that will help, its more likely your ISP has a transparent DNS that they are forcing you to use
[01:07] <faddat> that's the only thing I haven't tried.  I've enabled and disabled my card.  Could it need a full restart to get all that happy now?
[01:07] <seamus> hintswen: why do you need to reboot?
[01:07] <faddat> DBO: transparent DNS?
[01:07] <hintswen> seamus: cause it's frozen on the screensaver
[01:08] <Serious_Sven> What's the command for uninstalling a program that was installed using make?
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, their DNS server just replies to all DNS requests that come out of your box, whether you request from a different server or not
[01:08] <Stefano145> Hi. Can anybody help me with vmware workstation, please? I have an Ubutun 6.06 with kde and at every startup I have to reconfigure vmware, to be able to use it ... Anybody has a solution for this ? Kernel latest version i686 (i386 didn't go too)
[01:08] <seamus> hintswen: your win box? haha
[01:08] <zcat[1] > Serious_Sven: if you're lucky make uninstall will work
[01:08] <hintswen> seamus: no, the linux
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, its not that uncommon
[01:08] <faddat> DBO:  That sucks!  Damn, I knew I should have kept bitching when they couldn't get me fiber to my doorstep
[01:08] <ompaul> !language
[01:08] <DBO> faddat, you need to watch your language please
[01:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:08] <seamus> hintswen: ah type <ctrl>+<alt>+1
[01:08] <dragon______NEWB> it says to "Reconfigure Xserve"
[01:08] <faddat> DBO: gotcha
[01:08] <hintswen> seamus: that doesn't work
[01:09] <DBO> faddat, give it a day, if the DNS cache doesnt update, then start messing around with your box
[01:09] <seamus> hintswen: reboot you must do so it would seem
[01:09] <faddat> Well, I'm going to try restarting my computer, and hopefully I don't have a "transparent DNS"  Sadly, it's been more than a day :(
[01:09] <redguy> Serious_Sven, hah there isn't. but if you're lucky and you still have the sources you might try running make uninstall in the source directory
[01:09] <seamus> hintswen: sorry <ctrl>+<alt>+F1
[01:09] <DBO> faddat, ok, give it a run, nothing to lose
[01:09] <redguy> Serious_Sven, that'swhy you shoul install software from packages...
[01:10] <faddat> Other people in Asia are having trouble with the same tracker, but it's been identified as a DNS issue, so I used a US-based DNS server in my config
[01:10] <Stefano145> naybody has a solution for my problem?
[01:10] <hintswen> seamus: yeah but i can't just reboot it, it's running a IRCD linked with 2 other servers(or 1 dunno how many are up at this time) and i don't think the IRCD starts automaticly
[01:10] <zcat[1] > last house I was in they ran a big fibre bundle right past the front. And I didn't have anything to splice into it, damn!!
[01:10] <webben> Serious_Sven: failing that you could try a) deleting manually b) creating a package with checkinstall, listing its contents, and using that as a guide to deleting manually
[01:10] <faddat> DBO:  One more question before I bounce-- How can my ISP grab requests going to a DNS server in the USA?  I guess I don't know as much as I thought about networking...
[01:10] <hintswen> seamus: also for some stange reason i can't connect to the other servers, so if i reboot it and the IRCD doesn't start then i'm screwed
[01:10] <DBO> faddat, why not just add it to your /etc/hosts if its something like a tracker?
[01:10] <redguy> hintswen, running ircd on a box with a screensaver?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: i'm also playing irpg, so i gotta get this box onto a different server before i reboot lol
[01:11] <faddat> DBO:  Manually add the hard IP address?
[01:11] <DBO> faddat, sure, if you think it might possibly be blocked by your ISP
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: the screensaver WAS disabled, i dunno what happened! i think the patch enabled it lol
[01:11] <seamus> hintswen: is <ctrl>+<alt>+F1 not working?
[01:11] <faddat> Actually.....
[01:11] <dragon______NEWB> n e 1 got sum free time on there hands?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: nothing works
[01:11] <ompaul> !ask
[01:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:11] <Serious_Sven> webben: I installed the AMSN svn package manually, used to work fine until today :-)
[01:11] <DBO> faddat, that would aslo bypass any local DNS caching server you may have set up
[01:11] <seamus> hintswen: well if nothing is working then the server isn't working either
[01:11] <faddat> DBO:  Do you think you could ping torrents.conspiracycentral.net and grab me the IP address?
[01:11] <hintswen> seamus: well it is
[01:12] <hintswen> seamus: i'm connected to it, and i'm SSHing it aswell
[01:12] <faddat> They serve a radio show that I've been going nuts not having
[01:12] <seamus> hintswen: was just gonna say ssh in and just kill xscreensaver
[01:12] <DBO> faddat, only because we are such good friends <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:12] <zcat[1] > torrents.conspiracycentral.net has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:12] <zcat[1] > damn too slow!
[01:12] <faddat> Thanks a bunch man :)
[01:12] <hintswen> seamus: how to kill?
[01:12] <DBO> faddat, good luck
[01:13] <seamus> from the console type "sudo kill -9 `pidof xscreensaver`"
[01:13] <Foobal> I recommend a high powered sniper rifle but it's just me
[01:13] <zcat[1] > if it was North Korea I could see them blocking it....
[01:13] <DBO> faddat, if you dont mind, stop by #ubuntu-offtopic some time, I'd really like to find out what the censoring conditions in korea are
[01:13] <seamus> i think it's xscreensaver anyway
[01:13] <hintswen> seamus: usage thing came up, are you shure that's right?
[01:13] <faddat> DBO:  I'll do that after I reboot-- I think they may actually be quite bad
[01:14] <DBO> faddat, ok =)
[01:14] <darkowl> i need some help
[01:14] <darkowl> i want to know how can i record my screen ?
[01:14] <seamus> no i'm not
[01:14] <darkowl> using what program ?
[01:14] <faddat> DBO:  it's either that or I'm an idiot, but I'm starting to think the former because I cannot reach that IP address.
[01:14] <darkowl> i tryed istanbul but it isn't good
[01:14] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c?
[01:14] <seamus> try "sudo ps x" and find the screensaver process in there
[01:14] <DBO> faddat, i can ping it fine, sounds like you are getting filtered
[01:15] <hintswen> seamus: was trying that :p
[01:15] <DBO> faddat, if you cant ping it by IP no sense in rebooting here, its not a DNS issue anywhere
[01:15] <albacker> how can you know what version of ubuntu you have installed ? breezy/hoary/dapper/edge ?
[01:15] <RShadow> darkowl, I've looked for a solution to your problem for some time, however the only solution I could find was to run windows and use camtasia to record a linux session under vmware
[01:15] <hintswen> seamus: can't find it :( i'm unlucky
[01:15] <zcat[1] > try mtr, soo how far it traces?
[01:15] <zcat[1] > *see
[01:16] <zcat[1] > RShadow: istanbul ?
[01:16] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:16] <darkowl> RShadow: i don't have windows
[01:16] <Foobal> darkowl: enable the vnc server from Preferences ("Remote Desktop") and there is a recording software that records actually what the vnc "user" sees
[01:16] <seamus> hintswen: try just ps x then
[01:16] <hintswen> seamus: what is the time colum?
[01:16] <RShadow> zcat[1] , huh?
[01:16] <zcat[1] > darkowl: istanbul desktop recorder will record an ogg video of your desktop
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: 4302 ?        Rs   357:57 [Xorg]
[01:17] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:17] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?
[01:17] <RShadow> zcat[1] , your kiddin me.. well that is well awsome news.. going to go check it out
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: is that it?
[01:17] <seamus> hintswen: thats the x server
[01:17] <darkowl> zcat[1] : I already tried it but it is not wokring properly
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: which means? lol
[01:17] <bertu> Hey can You help me plsssss?
[01:17] <hintswen> seamus: 13381 ?        Ss     0:00 gnome-screensaver
[01:18] <zcat[1] > It needs a fairly fast machine .. my 1ghz is too slow but it kinda recorded 2fps ...
[01:18] <seamus> hintswen: thats the one. kill it
[01:18] <bertu> HELLO?
[01:18] <Nameeater> I have no sound in movies, does anyone know why? it may have been after upgrading
[01:18] <Nameeater> with dapper
[01:18] <seamus> hintswen: "sudo kill -9 13381"
[01:18] <RShadow> zcat[1] , hmm.. doesn't look like it records audio however
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: no difference on screen
[01:19] <bertu> HELP!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:19] <seamus> is is still running?
[01:19] <ompaul> !caps
[01:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: maybe it's my gfx card, cause my gfx card is stuffed lol
[01:19] <hintswen> seamus: not running i think
[01:19] <bertu> can someone notice me pls
[01:20] <ompaul> bertu, ask your question - Of the channel and then it will be considerd
[01:20] <bertu> Hey does someone have a deskjet 845c? if yes can someone explain how can i install it?\
[01:20] <jrib> !printing > bertu
[01:20] <seamus> do you have any gui progs running that you can't lose?
[01:20] <hintswen> probably not
[01:20] <ompaul> bertu, Desktop - Menu   -- system administration printing
[01:20] <bertu> yes
[01:20] <bertu> i went there
[01:20] <seamus> then kill the x server or just try restarting it "<ctrl>+<backspace>"
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: as long as the ircd doesn't close i don't care what programs close
[01:21] <seamus> sorry  "<ctrl>+<alt><backspace>"
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: Xorg?
[01:21] <zcat[1] > last coupld of printers I set up, I just plugged them in and a new printer dialog popped up..
[01:21] <gatekeeper> bertu, is your printer not listed?
[01:21] <Kizzume> Is there a version of the package manager that runs in a shell so I can just quickly highlight almost everything?  (like during the initial install of debian)?
[01:21] <bertu> yes
[01:21] <hintswen> seamus: ctrl + alt +backspace did nothing
[01:21] <bertu> it tis listed
[01:22] <bertu> and when i choose the driver
[01:22] <seamus> then kill x.org
[01:22] <bertu> it tells me to choose a file
[01:22] <hintswen> seamus: i killed Xorg but it didn't die
[01:22] <softriver> I need serious help if someone has an opportunity.
[01:22] <webben> kizzume: aptitude
[01:22] <webben> kizzume: but i can't stand its interface myself
[01:23] <webben> kizzume: but i think aptitude is what debian is using
[01:23] <spiderbatdad> softriver: serious help?
[01:23] <webben> kizzume: and i think it's installed by default
[01:23] <Kizzume> Thanks. :)
[01:23] <seamus> then try "sudo killall -15 gdm" (gdm=gnome display manager)
[01:23] <gatekeeper> bertu, would suggest you need to google for a linux driver for it
[01:23] <zcat[1] > Kizzume: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:23] <hintswen> seamus: it's still there
[01:23] <softriver> I followed the documentation instructions on how to install the nVidia  drivers, and now I can't boot my system.
[01:23] <jonah1980> hi does anyone know how to install xgl and compiz (i'd like that spinning cube thing!)? i've tried the tutoria in forum but it just throws up errors
[01:23] <bertu> i check google?
[01:24] <seamus>  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:24] <Zalazale> hi, how to make bootable DVD (for ubuntu 6.06)?
[01:24] <jrib> !xgl
[01:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:24] <softriver> I'm running from LiveCD atm, and I can't access my hd to back up my files and reinstall.
[01:24] <hintswen>  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                [ ok ]
[01:24] <hintswen>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                [fail]
[01:24] <seamus> sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:25] <narfmaster> softriver, no grub or splash or anything?
[01:25] <hintswen> seamus: gave OK for both, but still screensaver on screen
[01:25] <ninuhadida_> hintswem: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:25] <spiderbatdad> softriver: i'm not sure but i don't think you can install drivers while running live cd
[01:25] <hintswen> Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                                                                [ ok ]
[01:25] <bertu> it tells me to select a ppd file
[01:25] <bertu> for the printer
[01:25] <Nameeater> !info libxine-extracodecs
[01:25] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[01:25] <ninuhadida_> now run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:25] <softriver> It will start to load the splash screen, but will xWindows will crash, then reboot.
[01:25] <hintswen> screensaver still on screen
[01:25] <seamus> or even sudo /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload
[01:26] <hintswen> tried all them, still screensaver on screen
[01:26] <softriver> spiderbatdad:  I was installing the drivers from a standard installation.  I'm running LiveCD just so I can seek help. ;)
[01:26] <zcat[1] > screensaver??
[01:26] <spiderbatdad> softriver: my understanding is that the live cd is for trying linux w/out altering your system
[01:26] <zcat[1] > hintswen: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:26] <nomin> softriver: maybe you can try a different live cd.  Knoppix is a good one.  I've backed up data after messing up my system using knoppix.
[01:26] <seamus> hintswen: sorry then i think i'm a little stumped
[01:27] <hintswen> ctrl alt backspace does nothing
[01:27] <narfmaster> softriver, you are saying that the computer boots on its own?
[01:27] <gatekeeper> bertu, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_driver.cgi?driver=hpijs
[01:27] <seamus> hintswen: are you sure then there is no gnome-screensaver process?
[01:27] <nomin> *I've backed up data using knoppix
[01:27] <spiderbatdad> softriver: your beyond my help then...I have too little experience, but i believe patience on this channel will pay off
[01:27] <hintswen> seamus: yes
[01:27] <pinkman> Hello
[01:27] <softriver> narfmaster:  It will begin to boot, then xWindows will begin to initialize, and it will reboot.
[01:28] <pinkman> Can anyone help me, im trying to fix streaming videos in fire fox
[01:28] <narfmaster> softriver, which docs did you follow?
[01:28] <pinkman> I have tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[01:28] <bertu> ok i am printing 10x
[01:28] <pinkman> and I got an error
[01:28] <hintswen> seamus: process list thing: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UTreq489.html
[01:28] <softriver> narfmaster:  The official documentation for installing nVidia drivers.  Want me to see if I can find the page again?
[01:29] <pinkman> Can anyone help me
[01:29] <webben> if i want to add a /opt/ruby/bin directory to the path for all users including root, where is the best place to do that with dapper? is it still /etc/environment?
[01:29] <narfmaster> softriver, you mean the nvidia docs?
[01:29] <Sakunix> I cant eject a cd? what have I done
[01:29] <spiderbatdad> pinkman have you removed totem gstreamer in synaptic and replaced w/ totem xine?
[01:29] <seamus> hintswen: if you want me to look into it more then can you set up a guest ac on your box and let me ssh in
[01:29] <softriver> nerfmaster:  The ubuntu docs.
[01:29] <zcat[1] > !nvidia
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <zcat[1] > those?
[01:29] <seamus> hintswen: kill all these 18086 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[01:29] <seamus> 18087 ?        S      0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
[01:29] <seamus> 18102 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/whiptail --yesno 'There already appears to be an X ser
[01:29] <seamus> 18103 tty8     Ss+    0:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/whiptail --yesno 'There already appears to be an X ser
[01:29] <ompaul> !paste
[01:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:29] <nomin> softriver: what happens when you try to boot your system?
[01:29] <ompaul> seamus, please read that last comment by ubotu
[01:30] <hintswen> seamus: ok, can i PM you?
[01:30] <seamus> sorry
[01:30] <ompaul> k
[01:30] <seamus> i'm new here
[01:30] <hintswen> really? u sound like youre not lol
[01:30] <hintswen> seamus: can i PM you?
[01:30] <softriver> nomin:  It will go to the splash screen (loading hardware drivers, etc.) then it will throw up a screen that says xServer failed, system halt, and reboot.
[01:30] <spiderbatdad> anyone have experience with VMware player
[01:31] <narfmaster> i just used vmplayer a little while ago
[01:31] <nomin> softriver: maybe you can try to boot it without the xwindow system starting, then fix it.
[01:31] <quellhorst> im trying to run an app. but it wont because i need libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3... what do i install to get this?
[01:31] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i get file not found everytime i try to start
[01:31] <pinkman> No I havnt
[01:31] <Sakunix> anyone have any ideas why I cant get a cd out of my cd rom drive?
[01:31] <softriver> nomin:  I'm new to linux.  Is there a source you might recommend that can walk me through that process?
[01:32] <hintswen> seamus: ?
[01:32] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: that solved my streaming problems
[01:32] <pinkman> im replacing now
[01:32] <seamus> hey yea sorry
[01:32] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, you might have to check the vmx file
[01:32] <hintswen> lol, can i PM you?
[01:32] <jrib> Sakunix: have you tried: right click > eject
[01:33] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, double check the filenames
[01:33] <seamus> no sorry
[01:33] <seamus> go to #uusc
[01:33] <hintswen> k
[01:33] <nomin> softriver: my knowledge in linux is average at the moment.  I don't know exactly what to do on Ubuntu to start it up without the xwindow system, but I'm pretty sure there is a way.  I think the livecd or the install cd has a 'rescue' option on it for just this type of thing.
[01:33] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: that's the file it says is not found. I piont to it after start up. it has the configuration script, but meg=file not found
[01:34] <pinkman> er
[01:34] <pinkman> it worked for a second
[01:34] <pinkman> then just stopped
[01:34] <nomin> softriver: I'll look for a site
[01:34] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, that's kind of weird
[01:34] <softriver> nomin:  Thank you.  I deeply appreciate it.
[01:34] <Sakunix> jrib: tried that nothing
[01:35] <Sakunix> tried sudo eject
[01:35] <Sakunix> nothing
[01:35] <spiderbatdad> pinkman: have you read "restricted formats?"
[01:35] <pinkman> the thing is.. that it worked fine befor I reformatted a few seconds ago..
[01:35] <pinkman> and last tie all I did was use 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer'
[01:35] <jrib> Sakunix: hmm don't know then, might want to just reboot
[01:35] <pinkman> and it worked fine
[01:35] <Sakunix> yer going to have to I think
[01:36] <nomin> softriver: or I could just ask in here...
[01:36] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, you also have a vmdk file there?
[01:36] <nomin> How do I start Ubuntu without starting X?
[01:36] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: yes in the dapper folder
[01:36] <redblades> Hi all, I was wondering, is Apache 2.2 out for Ubuntu yet???
[01:36] <Knome> Sakunix: have you tried 'eject /dev/cdrom?
[01:36] <redblades> I really really want it.
[01:37] <softriver> nomin:  Either way is cool.  I'm also googling for a way to access my partition from LiveCD.  If I can retrieve my data to my external drive, then I can just reinstall without losing much.
[01:37] <pinkman> how to install rar?
[01:37] <pinkman> the extensions?
[01:37] <jrib> !rar > pinkman
[01:37] <wrathlo>  hi there
[01:38] <pinkman> event not gounf
[01:38] <pinkman> found*
[01:38] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt seem to be working
[01:38] <wrathlo> does ubuntu need an antivirus?
[01:38] <jrib> !rar
[01:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:38] <nomin> softriver: open a console and type "fdisk -l" (without quotes).  This will show you your partitions.  You may have to log in as root to do this.  If so just type "sudo fdisk -l".
[01:39] <softriver> nomin:  k.  sec.
[01:39] <narfmaster> wrathlo, not yet
[01:39] <pinkman> !rar doesnt work
[01:39] <wrathlo> ic
[01:39] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: only to protect windows boxes on your network if you are email server that sort of thing
[01:39] <bertu> emm
[01:39] <quellhorst> umm... wish the help here was better
[01:39] <bertu> i have a problem with amarock
[01:39] <jrib> pinkman: !rar is for the channel, it made ubotu say the information you need.  You see it?
[01:39] <YtseJam> Hmmm, so I mananged to supposedly mount my partitions on the LiveCD yet when trying to view them, an error msg shows up, saying I don't have View Premissions...
[01:39] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i have qemu-dapper.vmdk
[01:39] <frogzoo> has anyone installed clvm or redhat-cluster-suite and had problems? I have both of them half installed, & they seem to depend on each other & refuse to fully install, & also refuse to uninstall
[01:39] <wrathlo> is it possible for us to view wmv files?
[01:39] <pinkman> Yes.
[01:40] <BlueEagle> pinkman: why doesn't !rar work?
[01:40] <pinkman> It works.
[01:40] <wrathlo> how is that?
[01:40] <gatekeeper> bertu: which is?
[01:40] <quellhorst> pinkman: but not wmv3
[01:40] <softriver> nomin:  Here's the output-
[01:40] <softriver> /dev/hda1   *           1        9682    77770633+  83  Linux
[01:40] <jrib> wrathlo: (mplayer or xine) with w32codecs
[01:40] <redblades> Apache 2.2?????
[01:40] <mc__> !rar
[01:40] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:40] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: how is what?
[01:40] <redblades> !apache2.2.
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2.2.
[01:40] <bertu> em
[01:40] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt seem to be working
[01:40] <redblades> !apache2.2
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2.2
[01:40] <redblades> !apache
[01:40] <jonah1980> hi i tried the xgl easy script which didn't work and also the official tutorial, both just send the screen brown for a while and then black and then back to login and now i've got two Xgl session options in my options login list - how can i get rid of one and make one work?!
[01:40] <wrathlo> how can we view wmv files?
[01:40] <bertu> i am trying to play songs
[01:40] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:40] <mc__> !apache2
[01:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about apache2
[01:40] <quellhorst> anyone have any ideas?
[01:40] <nomin> softriver: in order to mount a partition, you need to first create a folder somewhere.  Then you mount the partition in that folder.
[01:40] <wrathlo> which player do we use?
[01:40] <wrathlo> or have to download?
[01:41] <wrathlo> i seen to have a problem viewing wmv files
[01:41] <pinkman> Okie, well.. im still confused on why nothing seems to be working.. befor I remformatted I fixed these simply with rar: 'sudo apt-get install rar unrar' and straming video: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer'
[01:41] <pinkman> now they dont work at all.
[01:41] <BlueEagle> wrathlo: both mplayer and vlc are nice imo.
[01:41] <bertu> but at first it tells me the name of the song...2 secons later it tells me "playlist finiched
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> whois dli
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> ...
[01:41] <dragon______NEWB> lol
[01:41] <jrib> pinkman: you need to enable multiverse and universe
[01:41] <jrib> !repos > pinkman
[01:41] <BlueEagle> pinkman: have you got all your repositories in order?
[01:41] <pinkman> I did
[01:41] <bertu> brb
[01:41] <BlueEagle> !source-o-matic
[01:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: I can view wmv files using kaffine which is installed by default
[01:42] <jrib> pinkman: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:42] <softriver> nomin:  ok.  I created a folder.  Do I mount the partition from the terminal?
[01:42] <wrathlo> how do i look for kaffine?
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: more than likely a codecs issue
[01:42] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, i'm not sure qemu images will work with vmplayer
[01:42] <YtseJam> After mounting my paritions via the LiveCD, I am still unable to access them and get a 'no view premissions' error. HELP.
[01:42] <nomin> softriver: but when you mount a partition, you sometimes might want the right permissions, so you can include extra stuff in the command in order to get read/write permissions.
[01:42] <wrathlo> im sorry im new ro ununtu
[01:42] <BlueEagle> softriver: sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> /path/to/mountpoint
[01:42] <wrathlo> ubuntu i mean
[01:42] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: I am using kubuntu
[01:42] <jrib> YtseJam: what filsystem do they use?
[01:42] <BlueEagle> softriver: that will work in 90% of all cases.
[01:42] <nomin> softriver: yes, you mount it from the terminal
[01:42] <narfmaster> spiderbatdad, fortunately vmware server is free
[01:42] <YtseJam> ntfs.
[01:43] <spiderbatdad> narfmaster: i will start there then thanks
[01:43] <pinkman> brb
[01:43] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:43] <Knome> wrathlo: apt-cache search kaffeine
[01:43] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: not sure what the default is for gnome
[01:43] <YtseJam> I create /media/win_private and then did mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /media/win_private
[01:43] <softriver> nomin and BlueEagle:  ok.  one sec while I try this out.  (and thank you both)
[01:43] <wrathlo> is it possible to install exe files like winamp?
[01:43] <gatekeeper> !codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <YtseJam> And while the mount succeded, I still couldn't view the content
[01:43] <jrib> wrathlo: you can use wine, but usually there are very good linux alternatives
[01:44] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: You might have mounted it without giving everyone permission to read from the filesystem.
[01:44] <wrathlo> ic
[01:44] <quellhorst> im trying to install something... but us.archive.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt seem to be working
[01:44] <wrathlo> which alternatives are those?
[01:44] <gatekeeper> wrathlo: have you got w32codecs installed?
[01:44] <wrathlo> i dont think i have
[01:44] <jrib> YtseJam: unmount and mount with 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda5 /media/win_private'
[01:44] <bertu> bk
[01:44] <wrathlo> how do i look for that?
[01:45] <jrib> quellhorst: try a different mirror
[01:45] <hintswen> what's the command to open a cd drive?
[01:45] <jrib> !w32codecs > wrathlo
[01:45] <quellhorst> jrib: how/where do i define that?
[01:45] <YtseJam> Will try.
[01:45] <jrib> quellhorst: /etc/apt/sources.list , just substitude "us."   My data's backing up to the external now!  *8^>
[01:45] <BlueEagle> softriver: goodie! :)
[01:46] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, because I am still experiementing with the LiveCD
[01:46] <YtseJam> Didn't make the switch just yet
[01:46] <Leira> howto use debtags in ubuntu? i cannot find any tags in aptitude~  i do have debtags installed
[01:46] <bertu> can some one help me about amorock
[01:46] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: Ahh, I see. Still I do not see why you need to reboot. There are IRC clients on the livecd.
[01:46] <jrib> bertu: what's wrong with it?
[01:46] <bertu> it doesnt play music
[01:46] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, because my PCI (internal ADSL) modem will not get recognized
[01:46] <nomin> softriver: you could then try to rescue the system by starting it without x
[01:46] <webben> is it possible to reload etc/environment (containing the path) without rebooting?
[01:47] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: I see. Which modem is that?
[01:47] <YtseJam> Samsung AHT-N120
[01:47] <nomin> softriver: maybe "xorgconfig" would help
[01:47] <narfmaster> bertu, you mean amarok?
[01:47] <bertu> yes
[01:47] <bertu> spelimg mistake ;)
[01:47] <bertu> so
[01:47] <bertu> what can i do
[01:48] <bertu> when i choose the song
[01:48] <ompaul> !enter
[01:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:48] <gatekeeper> bertu: configure amaroK -> engine?
[01:48] <ompaul> bertu, read ubotu
[01:48] <bertu> xine
[01:48] <softriver> nomin:  For now I'm just going to reinstall (Only losing a few updates and an application), and I'm just not confident enough to mess around with the console trying to recover things just yet.
[01:49] <Timor^> hi, i would like to install X mail with apt-get
[01:49] <bertu> The engie that i use is the xine engine
[01:49] <gatekeeper> bertu: System Settings -> Sound -> Test button any sound?
[01:49] <softriver> nomin and BlueEagle:  I do want to say thanks to both of you, though.  I was terrified of making the leap to Linux, and you guys just made that a lot easier for me.
[01:49] <bertu> let me check
[01:49] <nomin> softriver: I had some display problems when I installed dapper a few weeks ago.
[01:50] <Knome> Timor^: sudo apt-get install xmail
[01:50] <Timor^> hi, i would like to install X mail with apt-get, where can i browse the application list ?
[01:50] <BlueEagle> softriver: That's why we're here. That and to feed the trolls. :p
[01:50] <_nano_> hi has anyone installed aiglx on their desktop?
[01:50] <narfmaster> Timor^, make sure you have universe enabled
[01:50] <bertu> gatekeeper: where is the system settings located...just to tell you i played songs with other progames
[01:50] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, the auto-detect feature in Networking doesn't seem to find it and no matter which port I set it on, it doesn't work...
[01:50] <nettogrof> *Restarting (Brb)
[01:51] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: I must say that it doesn't look bright. I don't think there is a kernel module for that modem. :(
[01:51] <gatekeeper> bertu: that's ok so you have sound
[01:51] <Timor^> narfmaster; im running with no gui only console..how do i enable it ?
[01:51] <BlueEagle> ytsejam: That's why you should have gotten the external modem :p
[01:51] <narfmaster> Timor^, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:51] <nomin> softriver:  when you start linux again, (probably after you reinstall it) press ctrl+alt+f1.  This gives you access to the console.  You can shut down X from there and configure your display.  Type "startx" to start it after you have it configured.
[01:51] <YtseJam> BlueEagle, same case as 4 years ago... :)
[01:51] <gatekeeper> bertu: are you trying to play mp3?
[01:52] <bertu> look...i choose the song...on the top appears the name of the song then after 1-2 seconds it tells me playlist finished
[01:52] <nomin> softriver: ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 gives you acces to 6 console session.  ctrl+alt+F7 gets back into X.
[01:52] <bertu> yes they are mp3's...but still i i played mp3 with other programes...i downloaded a plugin for mp3;'s
[01:53] <YtseJam> I'll go try the mounting again
[01:53] <gatekeeper> bertu: hang on...
[01:53] <bertu> ok
[01:53] <bertu> tyt
[01:53] <redblades> Has anyone answered my question about Apache 2.2????????????
[01:54] <softriver> nomin:  Awesomeness!  (writing that down)  I was trying to figure that out earlier, also, since the nVidia installer required me to be in console without xWindows running.
[01:54] <Timor^> narfmaster; thnx
[01:54] <ompaul> redblades
[01:54] <Timor^> Knome; thnx
[01:54] <narfmaster> Timor^, you're welcome
[01:54] <redblades> yah?
[01:54] <Knome> np
[01:54] <nomin> softriver: "xorgconfig" should let you configure your display
[01:54] <redblades> ompaul, yah?
[01:55] <gatekeeper> !amaroK
[01:55] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[01:55] <nomin> softriver: actually, that's not it.  I'll have to find it.  It's similar, i did it a few weeks ago.
[01:55] <ompaul> redblades, I was actually searching for your nick to find your question -seems I did not just enter it in the dialog box
[01:55] <redblades> Heheh oka
[01:55] <redblades> y
[01:55] <Timor^> package xmail is not available
[01:55] <bertu> i am ubuntu not kubuntu
[01:55] <softriver> nomin:  I still need to get the nVidia driver installed before I can bust out of 1024x768, though, right?
[01:56] <narfmaster> Timor^, apt-get update
[01:56] <bertu> softriver: i dont think so
[01:56] <ompaul> redblades, the latest stable is Server version: Apache/2.0.55
[01:56] <ompaul> !timetable > redblades
[01:56] <bertu> when i didnt have drivers i had 1280*1024
[01:56] <wildman> hello, does someone know if there are Eclipse 3.2 packages from dapper x86_64 ?
[01:56] <ompaul> redblades, please read the message from ubotu
[01:56] <nomin> softriver: I was able to get 1024x768 before installing the nvidia driver.
[01:57] <kthread> hola a todos
[01:57] <wildman> from -> for
[01:57] <kthread> fi
[01:57] <ompaul> !es
[01:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:57] <redblades> kthread, hola!
[01:57] <gatekeeper> bertu: have you got w32codecs installed?
[01:57] <softriver> nomin:  I'm at 1024 x 768.  I want to be at 1600x1200, though.
[01:57] <bertu> lol i dont know what they are
[01:58] <nomin> softriver: the driver will probably give you the option for better resolution.
[01:58] <bertu> softriver: what is your graphic card
[01:58] <inc|freaky> Failed to create initrd image. <-- what can i do?
[01:58] <gatekeeper> bertu: have you modified your repositories at all?
[01:58] <bertu> em
[01:58] <inc|freaky> im trying to make my own kernel with mkpkg
[01:58] <softriver> bertu:  AGP nVidia geForce 256 MB
[01:58] <bertu> created a new one i think
[01:59] <nomin> softriver: your system only messed up after you tried to install the nvidia driver, correct?  It was working fine before that?
[01:59] <inc|freaky> how to?
[01:59] <bertu> softriver: model?
[01:59] <inc|freaky> k
[01:59] <inc|freaky> mm
[01:59] <inc|freaky> hm
[01:59] <Leira> howto use debtags in ubuntu? i cannot find any tags in aptitude~  i do have debtags installed.
[01:59] <gatekeeper> bertu: Step 1. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:59] <softriver> nomin:  correct.
[02:00] <softriver> bertu:  not exactly sure.
[02:00] <bertu> ok
[02:00] <ompaul> !enter >  inc|freaky
[02:00] <ompaul> inc|freaky, please read the note from ubotu
[02:00] <nomin> softriver: you should be able to fix it without reinstalling
[02:00] <Timor^> narfmaster: thnx again.
[02:01] <narfmaster> Timor^, no problem
[02:01] <nomin> softriver:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Rescue_Mode
[02:01] <bertu> softriver: but do you have any idea?
[02:01] <ompaul> !kernel > inc|freaky
[02:01] <softriver> bertu:  I want to say 2600.  I *think* that's it.
[02:02] <bertu> gatekeeper:i think i added one when i was goung to install my nvidia river
[02:02] <Timor^> i got an error while installing xmail, how can i uninstall and reinstall ?
[02:03] <_nano_> hi, is there a way to install AIGLX without installing compiz?
[02:03] <bertu> softriver: 2600? and a geforce?
[02:03] <bertu> i never heard of it
[02:03] <ompaul> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:03] <softriver> bertu:  Yeah.  Asylum distribution (if that matters).
[02:03] <gatekeeper> bertu: follow the procedure I have given you, will enable all the repos you want then try apt-get install w32codecs
[02:03] <_nano_> !aiglx
[02:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about aiglx
[02:03] <_nano_> eh?
[02:03] <_nano_> :O
[02:03] <nomin> softriver: I'm guessing that you need to have xorg.conf configured properly.
[02:03] <_nano_> this bot is so mean!
[02:04] <Knome> Timor^: you can do it in one command with 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall xmail' or 2 commands with 'sudo apt-get --purge remove xmail' and then 'sudo apt-get install xmail'
[02:04] <ompaul> _nano_, head to #ubuntu-xgl with that question
[02:04] <_nano_> ompaul, i'm talkin about aiglx...
[02:04] <nomin> softriver: if your installation partition is the one that's mounted right now, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <redblades> Is there a way to edit ID3 tags quickly?
[02:04] <bertu> forget it
[02:04] <_nano_> ompaul, won't the roast me alive if i talk about aiglx in an xgl channel? :P
[02:04] <softriver> nomin:  ok.
[02:04] <redblades> like, add an Album to a group of MP3?
[02:04] <_nano_> *they
[02:04] <bertu> i deal with it layer
[02:04] <ompaul> _nano_, well they more than likely won't
[02:04] <bertu> *later
[02:05] <nanomad> redblades, maybe with exfalso...dunno
[02:05] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:05] <ompaul> _nano_, but it is not supported so it not proper to here - we support supported software that is why there is #ubuntu+1 for stuff that is in dev
[02:05] <Jowi> redblades: easytag is quite ok
[02:05] <_nano_> ompaul, ok
[02:06] <Jowi> redblades: it can do what you ask, not sure if it is the best application though. but the only one i've tried
[02:06] <pedro-kun> hi
[02:06] <redblades> Okay, I will try it.
[02:06] <redblades> hi pedro-kun
[02:06] <softriver> nomin:  opening xorg.conf now.
[02:06] <pedro-kun> can anybody help with getting aMSN fonts to work right in ubuntu dapper?
[02:06] <nomin> softriver: after I installed the nvidia driver, I chose to have nvidia re-write that file.  Everything was ok for me after that.
[02:06] <giant_> does somebody here has experience with qt in eclipse?
[02:06] <pedro-kun> or is it just something we cannot fix?
[02:06] <pedro-kun> (hi redblades)
[02:07] <giant_> does somebody here has experience with qt in eclipse?
[02:07] <redblades> I don't use aMSN, because it crashed eight times in a row, over different issues!
[02:07] <redblades> Or mabe one huge one?
[02:08] <ragoo> i use aMSN in dapper, and fonts seem to work.. but i installed some plugins.. that might've helped.
[02:08] <pedro-kun> well, amsn never crashed here
[02:08] <nomin> softriver: did you follow the nvidia installation instructions on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:08] <pedro-kun> however, it looks like hell
[02:08] <pedro-kun> ragoo, what plugins did you use?
[02:08] <softriver> nomin:  checking.
[02:08] <softriver> nomin:  That's the one.
[02:09] <ragoo> pedro-kun: this plugin named "Desktop Integration", i think that might be the one that has anything to do with fonts
[02:09] <ragoo> not sure though
[02:09] <bookLook> which is the best ftp server for ubuntu ?
[02:09] <bookLook> or is there any already install in dapper ?
[02:10] <nomin> softriver: and you typed in that command after you installed it?
[02:10] <softriver> nomin:  Strange though.  In my xorg.conf file it lists the device as ATI (?)
[02:10] <softriver> Yes.  That's when things went wrong.
[02:10] <narfmaster> that would explain the crash
[02:10] <nomin> softriver: mine says ATI also, don't know why.
[02:10] <nomin> but mine is ok
[02:10] <pedro-kun> ragoo, thanks :)
[02:11] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:11] <nomin> Identifier     "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] "
[02:11] <nomin> ?
[02:11] <nomin> softriver: I just now noticed that
[02:11] <nomin> wtf
[02:11] <softriver> nomin:  Does yours list as -
[02:11] <softriver> BusID		"PCI:0:5:0"
[02:11] <Knome> bookLook: here's a list of ftp servers for ubuntu http://pastebin.ca/82379
[02:12] <bookLook> thanks Knome
[02:12] <softriver> nomin: And will that make a difference since it's an AGP card?
[02:12] <Knome> np
[02:12] <nomin> softriver: like I said before, I had some problems with my display, but since I'm a little experienced with linux I was able to make it work.  It looks like this "ATI" thing might be causing some problems.
[02:13] <pedro-kun> thanks for all the help guys :)
[02:13] <YtseJam> yey, the mounting works.
[02:13] <nomin> softriver: I think this is a problem with dapper.  Maybe it's a bug.
[02:14] <softriver> nomin:  *nod*  Might be, might be.  I'm not experienced enough to know what's important yet, sadly.
[02:14] <webben> good grief ... the path for root is not being set by /etc/environment! why not?
[02:15] <softriver> nomin:  My folder's finished backing up, so I'm going to reinstall.  I'll be back when that's done, though.  Thanks again to *everyone* who helped me out!
[02:15] <nomin> softriver: but right now I have my tv-out and acceleration working fine.  I did notice that at startup the display in bent inwards at the bottom corners, but as soon as the login screen shows up, it's fine.
[02:15] <nomin> softriver: no problem
[02:15] <pinkman> Hello
[02:15] <pinkman> anyone here whom can help me.
[02:15] <pinkman> ?
[02:16] <stefg> !ask
[02:16] <webben> what does set the PATH for root?
[02:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:16] <Jowi> softriver: if you want to check if 0:5:0 is correct, just do a "lspci -X"
[02:16] <pinkman> :P
[02:16] <pinkman> Well, I am trying to install rar and unrar extensions but it isnt working
[02:16] <ompaul> does anyone ask complete and informative questions of the channel?
[02:16] <pinkman> I have tried.. "sudo apt-get install rar unrar"
[02:16] <pinkman> did nothing.
[02:17] <DBO> pinkman, have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?
[02:17] <stefg> !easyubuntu > pinkman
[02:17] <pinkman> I have opened repositor and enabled everything, so yes.. I do believe so.
[02:17] <ompaul> pinkman, if you had it would work
[02:17] <ompaul> !multiverse > pinkman
[02:17] <DBO> pinkman, have you run sudo apt-get update since then?
[02:18] <ompaul> DBO, excellent catch
[02:18] <webben> i wish ubuntu devs would choose one way of doing system paths and stick to it :(
[02:18] <pinkman> Yes, I have.
[02:18] <pinkman> But it still isnt working.
[02:19] <Jowi> pinkman: what happen exactly ?
[02:19] <ompaul> webben, apache likes its own config files
[02:19] <pinkman> (also whats the differnece between kubuntu and ubnutu, wich is newer/better)
[02:19] <pinkman> pinkman@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[02:19] <pinkman> Reading package lists... Done
[02:19] <pinkman> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:19] <pinkman> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:19] <pinkman> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:19] <pinkman> is only available from another source
[02:19] <pinkman> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[02:19] <DBO> !paste
[02:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:19] <webben> ompaul: for PATH?
[02:20] <DBO> pinkman, what kernel are you running
[02:20] <ompaul> webben, ahh last time I looked you were doing something with apache )
[02:20] <ompaul> :)
[02:20] <bookLook> i installed curl just now
[02:20] <bookLook> as an ftp but i cannot access
[02:20] <webben> ompaul: i think you've confused me with someone else
[02:20] <pinkman> Im not sure, Im new with linux
[02:20] <ompaul> webben, possible
[02:20] <cps> pinkman: try "apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[02:20] <webben> ompaul: i'm just trying to add a directory to my path for all users including root
[02:21] <narfmaster> does Ubuntu really need a root path?
[02:21] <DBO> pinkman, if cps's suggestion doesnt work, please put your /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin for us to look at
[02:21] <DBO> !paste > pinkman
[02:21] <webben> narfmaster: yes
[02:21] <Leira> it seems my aptitude's problem, it cannot shows debtags
[02:21] <webben> narfmaster: for one thing, sudo uses it
[02:21] <pinkman> how do I get ther list?
[02:21] <bookLook> i am trying to connect from crimson editor and i cannot access ftp on my ubuntu
[02:21] <narfmaster> i thought sudo used the user path
[02:21] <webben> apparently not
[02:21] <narfmaster> it does if i use sudo in Fedora Core
[02:22] <webben> (at least not on my new dapper installation)
[02:22] <ubuntu-austria> i can find in internet drivers for my orinoco client, but where do i know wich is the right for ubuntu?
[02:22] <ompaul> webben, the only think I can find in etc for that is: bash_completion:        PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin _command $1 $2 $3
[02:22] <DBO> narfmaster, that kind of behavior can be configured
[02:22] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, it should work out of the box
[02:22] <pinkman> How do I get /etc/apt/sources.list onto here? x_x' how to open
[02:23] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, try clicking on System Administration Networking - it might help
[02:23] <ubuntu-austria> ompaul, u mean any orinoco driver can work with ubuntu?
[02:23] <cps> pinkman: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <Jowi> pinkman: use pastebin, do not put it in the channel
[02:23] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, I have had some in the past - I removed wireless before dapper and rewired the whole place and it used to just work
[02:23] <Jowi> ubotu: tell pinkman about pastebin
[02:24] <ubuntu-austria> well i cant use wired internet, it doesn't deopend on me
[02:25] <pinkman> uh
[02:25] <pinkman> okie
[02:25] <webben> madness .... when i switch to the console -- the text begins off the left hand side of my screen
[02:25] <ompaul> pinkman, and please put all your words on one line in complete sentences - not one word and then enter and the next one - this is IRC not IM :-)
[02:26] <webben> i have to shrink the view on my monitor's OSD to see the prompt properly!
[02:26] <k> hELLO.
[02:26] <k> Hello*
[02:26] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, you would have to go buy kernel type, drivers mostly depend on that and not distro
[02:26] <pinkman> Sure thing, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17532.
[02:27] <Jowi> webben: you don't have a auto-adjust button on your monitor?
[02:27] <k> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHowCome
[02:27] <k> The page is...............
[02:27] <k> out of date
[02:27] <webben> Jowi: a what?
[02:27] <k> it talks about 5.04, not  6.06
[02:27] <ompaul> !enter
[02:27] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:28] <Jowi> webben: auto-adjust button. to adjust the image to center on your screen. a godsent feature.
[02:28] <ubuntu-austria> rambo3, so u say ubuntu cant conect to internet with wireless
[02:28] <ompaul> k it seems to be a history lesson not the way it is today
[02:28] <Jowi> webben: if you have an LCD/TFT that is. CRTs seem to lack it.
[02:29] <webben> Jowi: nah this is an old Dell CRT
[02:29] <ompaul> !wireless > ubuntu-austria
[02:29] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, yes that exactly what i didn't write. i use wirless
[02:29] <webben> Jowi: but i didn't have this problem with the previous 2 ubuntu releases
[02:29] <ompaul> ubuntu-austria, the bot just sent you some info have a look at it
[02:29] <k> ompaul: what do you mean
[02:29] <webben> i hate upgrading :(
[02:29] <Jowi> webben: ah :-/
[02:30] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, i hope you are not talking about connecting wireless to internet without router
[02:30] <ubuntu-austria> rambo3, yes, without router
[02:31] <Jowi> pinkman: you have universe enabled but not multiverse (line 19)
[02:31] <ompaul> k I see your reasoning, it appears I should get off the net and rest :-/ first I will throw it to the doc team
[02:31] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:32] <YtseJam> !
[02:32] <bookLook> when i connect from my ftpd server to my ubuntu box i cannot see the files in that folder ?
[02:32] <bookLook> what can be the possible reason ?
[02:32] <bookLook> anyone please help ?????????
[02:32] <ryanakca> no... irc exploit
[02:32] <nomin> bookLook: you might need to have the right privledges to see them
[02:33] <bookLook> no better privledges then root ;)
[02:33] <bookLook> nomin no better priveledges then root;)
[02:33] <rambo3> ubuntu-austria, then i dont know , what are you using mobile phone to connect?
[02:34] <webben> the console view size seems to have no relation to the view size in x
[02:34] <pinkman> how to enable multiuniverse?
[02:34] <narfmaster> bookLook, ftp servers usually have their own /home folder
[02:34] <nomin> bookLook: I have never tried access a ftpd server before.  I guess I can't help you out much.
[02:34] <rambo3> !sources
[02:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:34] <narfmaster> typically /home/ftp
[02:34] <ryanakca> whats the command to remove something from "env"
[02:35] <DBO> unset
[02:35] <bookLook> nomin which server you use ? i will use that i just need ftp access so i can edit my files easily in windows crimson editor
[02:35] <nomin> bookLook: I'm just a home pc user
[02:36] <ryanakca> DBO: ty
[02:36] <pinkman> How to install multiverse
[02:36] <pinkman> enable*
[02:36] <webben> how do i configure the display of the console? the x display seems perfect for my monitor :( ?
[02:37] <rambo3> !tell pinkman about sources
[02:37] <jrib> pinkman: have you been linked to the wiki?
[02:37] <rambo3> pinkman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[02:37] <bookLook> nomin thanks no problem
[02:37] <snikker> how can i send a broadcast messages to the others client pc (with windows) on the lan?
[02:37] <pianoboy3333> how do I find out what version of gtk I'm running?
[02:38] <Jowi> webben: it sort of depends. do you know if you use framebuffer? for example, do you see the ubuntu logo when you boot or just text?
[02:38] <nomin> webben: are you talking about using the console under X that you access from the 'applications' menu?
[02:38] <Teejay_wp> hi
[02:38] <webben> nomin: the console you reach by pressing ctrl + alt+  fX
[02:39] <webben> Jowi: i believe i see the Ubuntu logo when i boot
[02:39] <webben> Jowi: that means i do use the framebuffer?
[02:39] <rixxon> can anyone recommend an msn client, gaim is to simplistic
[02:39] <Jowi> webben: yeah. have a look at the bottom of the page: wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[02:39] <cps> rixxon: amsn has more of the features from msn, but it's kinda ugly
[02:40] <Teejay_wp> excuse me, is there an command line in removing a program from ubuntu
[02:41] <dmitri> ccooke: hi, its dmitri from yesterday, with a few more questions
[02:41] <jrib> Teejay_wp: how did you install the program?
[02:41] <Jowi> Teejay_wp: sudo apt-get remove programname
[02:41] <rixxon> Teejay_wp: if it's a package: sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME
[02:41] <SonicChao> Teejay_wp: sudo apt-get uninstall <program>
[02:41] <SonicChao> Remove?
[02:41] <webben> Jowi: thanks
[02:41] <SonicChao> I always thought it was uninstall
[02:41] <smithnooob> guys, whats the command to retrive ones internal IP-adress ?
[02:41] <rixxon> it's remove alright
[02:41] <jrib> yep, it's remove
[02:41] <Jowi> webben: thank me if it works :)
[02:42] <rixxon> smithnooob: ifconfig
[02:42] <smithnooob> hmm
[02:42] <SonicChao> jrib: I never had to uninstall a pkg, XD
[02:42] <rixxon> :)
[02:43] <smithnooob> sudo: ipconfig: command not found
[02:43] <pinkman> ill be back later..
[02:43] <rambo3> ifconfig
[02:43] <smithnooob> aah
[02:43] <smithnooob> sorry :>
[02:43] <smithnooob> thank you all ! :D
[02:43] <blackline> I have this other cordless keyboard that first have worked, but now last weeks it just refuses to work properly. Lots of the characters don't work, for example I get digits when I write about half of the letters. What shall I do? I really need this keyboard to work. Just tried it at my neighbours and it works normally there.
[02:44] <ompaul> k I sent you a message, thanks for that comment
[02:44] <frogzoo> blackline: usb or serial?
[02:44] <ryanakca> how do you make a back tick?
[02:44] <blackline> frogzoo Its USB
[02:44] <cps> blackline: battery problem?
[02:45] <blackline> cps - no i changed batteries, and it works terrific at my neighbours, i was able to write from another room
[02:45] <darich> hey all, is anyone else having trouble signing into google talk?
[02:45] <darich> my Gaim 2.0 beta ain't playing ball
[02:46] <rixxon> google talk exists for linux now?
[02:46] <Jowi> blackline: and no interferences between the keyboard and the reciever?
[02:46] <darich> no but you can use GAIM to log into the google talk servers
[02:46] <blackline> Jowi sorry, what does interferences mean?
[02:46] <darich> as it's just jazzed up jabba
[02:46] <cps> darich: it seems to be working for me, where did you get your gaim 2 packages from?
[02:47] <Jowi> blackline: like other wireless devices or stuff laying in the way.
[02:47] <rambo3> blackline, something disturbing connection like wifi device
[02:47] <Jowi> blackline: or a bluetooth phone or a remote or something like that
[02:47] <darich> I installed it via Automatix
[02:47] <blackline> Jowi Yes i have my other wireless conected also, which i always had and that have worked before. But of course i have tried to disconnect this and only ran the usb, without result.
[02:47] <dmitri> Hi, can anyone help with an un-intalling truecrypt please
[02:47] <darich> aol works fine
[02:47] <darich> as does MSN
[02:47] <darich> but googletalk's borked
[02:48] <blackline> The thing is that it acts wierd, since U for example, always become 4, this is constant.
[02:48] <Jowi> blackline: AH! numlock
[02:48] <darich> so it's the beta version
[02:49] <Foobal> dmitri: why you want to install truecrypt? I'm just curious because the dm-crypt works wonderfully and is shipped on your computer already
[02:49] <Jowi> blackline: U=4, I=5, J=1
[02:49] <vijay> hi all, how to install gnome on kubuntu using cd
[02:50] <blackline> Jowi Hahaha, I had this trouble for weeks, and its something as silly as that. Thank you very much
[02:50] <gorski> please, explain me, watching dvds is not legal on ubuntu?
[02:50] <dmitri> Foobal: i converted form windows before u see - and have all my docs in a giant truecrypt file - i had it wokring before, but not since i updated to 2.6.15-25-686
[02:50] <Jowi> blackline: I have a keyboard that does not have a numeric keypad and those keys are mapped to those numbers :)
[02:50] <Foobal> dmitri: oh yeah, I used it on Windows myself too. umm, sounds like if you just will have to recompile your kernel module manually
[02:51] <blackline> Jowi, yes, same here I guess :)
[02:51] <dmitri> foobal: my ubuntu kernel?
[02:51] <cps> darich: I use the gaim 2 packages from this repository: deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./
[02:51] <Foobal> dmitri: no, just install the headers for your kernel and recompile truecrypt's module manually
[02:51] <cps> I don't know where automatix gets its from
[02:52] <dmitri> Foobal: sorry mate - i'm a bit new at this..install the headers in the build.sh file? or where?
[02:52] <gorski> please, explain me, why is watching dvds not legal on ubuntu?
[02:53] <cps> gorski: because the only way to view them is to crack the encryption on them which has been made illegal in many places around the world
[02:53] <hawkaloogie> gorski, distributing the software that decrypts DVDs is not legal
[02:53] <Jowi> gorski: it is. but commercial dvds are encrypted, and to decrypt is illegal in some countries.
[02:54] <gorski> decrypt?
[02:54] <gorski> i just want to watch it.
[02:54] <edan> hi all
[02:54] <Foobal> you can't watch it without decrypting, silly
[02:55] <edan> what's mplayer's classname?
[02:55] <gorski> i don't want to crack it or copy it.
[02:55] <cps> gorski: you can get more info from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[02:55] <edan> I want to send from xvkbd to mplayer and need the classname
[02:55] <Jowi> gorski: the movie industry seem to think that it is the same thing
[02:55] <Foobal> gorski: there is _no_ video without decrypting the data. period.
[02:55] <Jowi> !dvd
[02:55] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:56] <riddlebox> I am trying to set dapper to not blank my screen or do anything after a period of time, I have set the power settings to no do it and I have disabled the screensaver, is there anything else I can do to stop this?
[02:56] <dmitri> Foobal: could you explain how i would do that (install the headers)
[02:56] <latroman> hi: is there any Ati Radeon 9600Xt driver for DapperDrake ?
[02:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:56] <IRCMonkeyx> anyone experienced  in globespan usb modem adsl???
[02:57] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: no, but is the lights on on the modem? and did you run "pppoeconf"?
[02:57] <Raito> How do you add keyboard shortcuts in gnome? there is a keyboard shortcut option in the system menu but I can only seem to edit existing shortcuts, how would I add more? Like for an application?
[02:57] <edan> I just use xbindkeys
[02:57] <sztanpet> i want to install cedega but it has an xlibs dependency and the installer says its not satisfiable, where can i install that package?
[02:57] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: i run pppoeconf,it says not detected, and only red light not green
[02:58] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: which light is red? link or pc connection?
[02:58] <Raito> edan: ok so I can use xbindkeys to make certain keys do something? ok I'll check it out, thanks
[02:58] <edan> yeah
[02:59] <IRCMonkeyx> jovi: power is red, data link is green
[02:59] <edan> I'm using it to map buttons from my MX100 as well as mapping the multimedia keys on my DiNovo
[02:59] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: power is red, data link is green
[03:00] <Raito> edan: it says something in home isn't found when I run it from a teminal, how would I set up the configuration?
[03:00] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: in fact i found solution, i must re-compile and patch kernel, i did those as root , and i still cant get it
[03:00] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: look what I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/EciAdsl
[03:00] <edan> you need to create ~/.xbindkeysrc
[03:01] <Raito> edan: just a folder? do I have to put anything in it?
[03:01] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: i did all of them, if i did correct, it is not easy to do those for a new linux user
[03:01] <edan> xbindkeys will create a default file for you if you run "xbindkeys -d"
[03:01] <edan> open a terminal and type "xbindkeys -d"
[03:01] <Raito> thanks, that was what I was looking for
[03:01] <edan> then "sudo gedit ~/.xbindkeysrc"
[03:01] <edan> or nano or whatever
[03:02] <latroman> hi: is there any Ati Radeon 9600Xt driver for DapperDrake ?
[03:02] <Raito> edan: I see so you have to edit it by hand, also I still get the same error when I run xbindkeys from the terminal after making it, is this supposed to be normal?
[03:02] <edan> Raito: to get the keycodes you need, run xev from a terminal and it'll spit data out as you hit keys or mouse buttons
[03:02] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: ah. did you do "sudo apt-get install eciadsl"?
[03:02] <Jowi> !info eciadsl
[03:02] <ubotu> eciadsl: userspace driver for the Globespan-based USB ADSL modems. In repository universe, is extra. Version 0.11-3 (dapper), package size 148 kB, installed size 352 kB
[03:03] <edan> what's the error?
[03:03] <Raito> edan: same one, saying something in home isn't found
[03:03] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: yes i did, as root
[03:03] <zambba> I want to share ~/Pictures with apache to my network. I type "DocumentRoot /home/sami/Pictures" to apache.conf, but apache keeps on serving /var/www instead. Where is the problem?
[03:03] <edan> the only thing it looks for in home I think is .xbindkeysrc
[03:03] <Raito> edan: it can't find that
[03:03] <Knome> zambba: #apache
[03:04] <Jowi> IRCMonkeyx: than I wouldn't know. :-/
[03:04] <edan> if it's not there, "sudo nano ~/.xbindkeysrc" and just save it
[03:04] <Jowi> s/than/then
[03:04] <IRCMonkeyx> jowi: :) me too, i am gonna hate linux, i should buy a new modem
[03:04] <edan> you can force it to load a file tho using "xbindkeys -f <insert filename here>"
[03:05] <zambba> Knome: are you sure this is no ubuntu/debian specific problem
[03:05] <edan> so if you wanted xbindkeys somewhere other than ~ you can point xbindkeys to it
[03:05] <Raito> edan: now when I run xbindkeys is nothing supposed to happen?
[03:05] <edan> correct
[03:05] <Knome> zambba: I don't see how it would be
[03:05] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> onc eyou define stuff tho, it'll still look like nothing's happening when you run it but your new shortcuts will work
[03:06] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> best thing to do is "man xbindkeys"
[03:06] <Raito> ok
[03:06] <edan> should get you going
[03:06] <jago25_98> Having trouble with cloop. Any way to remaster in Windows instead?
[03:08] <Kalm_> Can anyone point me to a web site that could possibly help me to tweak my ubuntu system as its running pretty slow...
[03:08] <frogzoo> blackline: Kalm_ what's top say? what's the cpu % ?
[03:08] <Knome> zambba: but have you tried restarting your web server after making those changes?
[03:09] <zambba> yes
[03:09] <frogzoo> Kalm_ what's top say? what's the cpu % ?
[03:09] <Kalm_> ive got an iMac G3 233mhz 64mb RAM
[03:09] <Knome> zambba: what apache version do you use?
[03:09] <frogzoo> Kalm_: that's not what I asked
[03:09] <edan> Knome: set ubuntu to boot init 1? heh
[03:10] <frogzoo> Kalm_: that's a pretty low spec - did ubuntu ever run quicker?
[03:10] <edan> err...  Kalm I mean
[03:10] <Kalm_> my CPU is working abouts 20%
[03:11] <frogzoo> gtg
[03:11] <Kalm_> its still really slow and its hard to find any RAM compatible with this machine
[03:11] <edan> try a different window manager
[03:11] <edan> I'd imagine KDE and GNOME aren't ever goign to run well on that sys
[03:12] <Knome> Kalm_: that's pretty much a hardware issue
[03:12] <Kalm_> xfce doesnt give me what i want sure ive tried KDE GNOME and XFCE... i hear IceWM might be even better for low spec pcs..
[03:12] <top222> An idea... what if we had an Ubuntu distribution (Lubuntu for Low power Ubuntu) that would be the best it can be in a 64MB sub-300MHz machine?
[03:12] <fateminasab> How can i run a specific command every time i boot in ubuntu?
[03:12] <DBO> Kalm_, fluxbox might be a good idea to check out too
[03:13] <cps> Kalm_: maybe you would be better off with something like damn small linux
[03:13] <jago25_98> I can remaster in Windows :))
[03:13] <Almighty> Sup? 8)
[03:13] <top222> Kalm_: Rox desktop and Rox filer will allow one to have icons on desktop
[03:13] <edan> add it to System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs in GNOME
[03:13] <fateminasab> thanks
[03:14] <webben> Jowi: that framebuffer page helped, thanks again :)
[03:14] <Kalm_> what im asking is is there a way to "simplify" Gnome... cut unneeded processes etc
[03:14] <cps> Kalm_: not and still call it GNOME really
[03:15] <top222> Kalm_: Removing the desktop background is maybe one thing you could do
[03:15] <Kalm_> hm... ok well thank you all im off to fix this...
[03:15] <top222> Kalm_: That way you will save memory
[03:15] <Kalm_> got wat i wanted
[03:17] <top222> Maybe we convinced him that linux is way too heavy, and he should install the original Apple system that came with the machine, and that was the thing he was looking for
[03:17] <top222> Does NetworkManager support static IP for my WLAN connection, btw?
[03:18] <top222> And is it possible to have a LAN with static IP addresses, and use WLAN only when the card is inserted?
[03:19] <delta____> Hey there! Just stopping by to tell everyone that Ubuntu totally blew me away (yeah, as if you guys didn't already know). I was just so surprised it got *everything* right on my Inspiron 8600 notebook.
[03:19] <top222> That also means going back to the LAN with static addresses after the PCMCIA card is removed
[03:19] <top222> delta____: Power saving too?
[03:19] <Cybodog> how does ubuntu inact the cpu freq stepping?
[03:19] <delta____> top222: The usual hitches with Wifi, but other than that: Yes!
[03:19] <jbwiv> guys, I had a software raid parition I deleted, changed the part type to LVM with fdisk, and would now like to add an LVM VG and LVs to it. Is there a way to run Ubuntu's console disk tool *after* you've successfully installed?
[03:20] <cps> top222: there is something on live.gnome.org about static IPs : http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ#head-c8b3f6905f51eed368b9c21893edabcc82531bbc
[03:20] <top222> delta____: Ok.  I was not that happy with my Thinkpad T22
[03:21] <delta____> top222: Guess it depends on what you expect. I expected having to set up everything and anything like I used to do some years ago
[03:21] <jbwiv> anyone know what the console based disk parition tool Ubuntu uses on install is actually called?
[03:21] <top222> delta____: I still can't combine LAN and WLAN.  One always breaks the other somehow.
[03:21] <delta____> jbwiv: If it's not fdisk or parted, I don't know
[03:22] <top222> delta____: Port replicator's mouse port does not work.  Kernel update fixed the CPU throttling, but initially that too was broken.
[03:22] <Knome> jbwiv: not sure but I'm partial to cfdisk
[03:23] <jbwiv> Knome: can cfdisk create LVM partitions with mount points?
[03:23] <delta____> top222: Heh. I see we had different expectations
[03:23] <top222> delta____: Also, because I was updating from 5.10, I did not run into problems with X and DRI, but on default it is enabled with Savage chips, and causes T2x Thinkpads to lock up hard.
[03:24] <delta____> top222: Ouch. My Mobility Radeon 9600 got detected and installed fine. I even got HW-accelerated OpenGL for free.
[03:24] <Knome> jbwiv: Linux LVM
[03:25] <top222> delta____: I get acceleration once I use 16bpp (not enough on-chip memory in the Savage) and put some magic lines into the "Device" section in xorg.conf
[03:25] <jbwiv> Knome: yeah, but I don't think it goes are far as Ubuntu's utility. In that you can't actually configure LVM from within the tool. I'm trying to find that tool
[03:27] <Knome> jbwiv: lvm2 - The Linux Logical Volume Manager ?
[03:27] <jbwiv> Knome: yes.
[03:27] <jbwiv> you can configure LVM2 from install with Ubuntu
[03:28] <jbwiv> alas...I'm going to reinstall...
[03:28] <jbwiv> or throw this g*(*D*(*(*( machine through the window ;-)
[03:30] <bina> is it safe for me to burn the ubuntu 6.06 dvd iso to a dvd-rw or is it best to use some other medium?
[03:30] <kenas> Hi
[03:30] <cps> bina: what do you mean by safe?
[03:30] <kenas> i am trying to install dapper 6.06
[03:30] <kenas> in a pc
[03:31] <kenas> and the desktop doesnt work
[03:31] <dr_willis> :) sortof hard to install it on a toaster. :)
[03:31] <kenas> i guess its because of Nvidia drivers
[03:31] <Marktzar> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
[03:31] <Marktzar> checking for X... no
[03:31] <Marktzar> Sorry, X is very much needed
[03:31] <Marktzar> mark@mindtzar:~/torsmo-0.18$
[03:31] <Marktzar> could someone tell me why it can't find x
[03:31] <bina> cps: I dont know entirely :)  Just so long as it'll boot.  I'm not sure it will make to big a difference, but i thought id ask to be 'safe' :-)
[03:31] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <kenas> !nvidia
[03:31] <Marktzar> !torsmo
[03:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about torsmo
[03:31] <dr_willis> kenas,  what video card ya got exactly?
[03:31] <coolbe> #ubuntu-cn
[03:32] <kenas> Geforce 6600 GT
[03:32] <hawkaloogie> Marktzar, are you trying to compile something? do you have the build-essential package?
[03:32] <kenas> but i cant get into the graphical mode either
[03:32] <Marktzar> yes hawkaloogie
[03:32] <kenas> i only see terminal
[03:32] <cps> bina: should be fine I imagine
[03:32] <Marktzar> It's the systems stats thing
[03:32] <dr_willis> odd - that thing should work good.. but you can install the official nvidia drivers without being in X.
[03:32] <Marktzar> but it can't detect x
[03:32] <kenas> i cant see the desktop
[03:33] <Marktzar> I'm running fluxbox though
[03:33] <Marktzar> if that's any help
[03:33] <bina> cps: hopefully.  Got another 8 hours until I have to worry about it anyway, may just get the CD iso
[03:33] <cps> bina: if it's a rewritable and it doesn't work you can always blank the disc ;)
[03:33] <coolbe> how can i get  in the channel ubuntu-cn
[03:33] <bina> cps: hehe yeah :)
[03:34] <LuckyX> help me pls
[03:34] <cps> bina: that might be a better idea, and then just install any extra programs over the net
[03:34] <dr_willis> kenas,  check out that URL we just gave ya (the !nvidia bot url) its about 3 commands to type in the shell that whould install the official nvidia drivers and get ya going.
[03:34] <Marktzar> so, anyone got any idea why tormso can't find X
[03:34] <Marktzar> !tormso
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about tormso
[03:34] <Marktzar> !torsmo
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about torsmo
[03:34] <cps> bina: unless of course you don't have a fast connection on the computer you are installing it on
[03:34] <LuckyX> i have potrable hdd connected to usb port (ntfs)
[03:34] <hawkaloogie> Marktzar, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23570
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> that may help
[03:35] <bina> cps: yeah, we have 1Mb connection here, so fast enough.  I also just bought a DVD writer so i wanted to play with it :)
[03:35] <LuckyX> ubuntu detects it but error: Unable to mount the selected volume. mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[03:35] <LuckyX> what to do?
[03:35] <LuckyX> how to mount it?
[03:35] <cps> bina: sounds cool, two birds with one stone :-)
[03:35] <Knome> jbwiv: maybe sudo apt-get install --reinstall lvm2 or maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm2 ?
[03:35] <TBUHP666> Hey i am in the login window but i need to switch to the black consol how do i do that?
[03:35] <hawkaloogie> LuckyX, maybe: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[03:35] <bina> cps: hehe :)
[03:35] <gholen> Hello! How do I solve the problem with irssi, and that I can't switch between cannels in exterm
[03:35] <ray79ct> hi to all
[03:36] <gholen> *xterm
[03:36] <ray79ct> i've a problem
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> TBUHP666, Ctrl+Alt+F1-6
[03:36] <Br|ce> hi
[03:36] <LuckyX> you are a king! :D
[03:36] <ray79ct> i can't see old ntfs hdd where i've all file
[03:36] <TBUHP666> kk
[03:36] <hawkaloogie> TBUHP666, to get back to gdm, Ctrl+Alt+F7 or F8 i don't remember which
[03:37] <stefg> !mount
[03:37] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[03:37] <ray79ct> can hlp me pls
[03:37] <LuckyX> tnx folks ;)
[03:37] <hawkaloogie> LuckyX, when something says "only root can do this", use sudo
[03:37] <ray79ct> help me
[03:37] <ray79ct> how i can obtain permission to read ntfs partition
[03:38] <LuckyX> one more thing :)
[03:38] <stefg> ray79ct: be patient and pay attention... have you mounted it?
[03:38] <ray79ct> no
[03:38] <LuckyX> how to put shortcut of ubuntu live support on desktop or any other app?
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> How can I set my guest account's password to nothing, so they can just press enter when they login?
[03:38] <LuckyX> whats the command?
[03:38] <ray79ct> sorry but it's the first that use linux
[03:38] <Br|ce> would someone know what could make my xorg freeze ? video card : radeon 9200 pro with radeon drivers, monitor : benq 20" wide (1680x1050)
[03:38] <Samuli^> Could someone paste me what reads in their menu.lst for dapper?
[03:38] <ray79ct> stef
[03:39] <n9urk> I jut set up php5-cli on Ubuntu 6.6 and I am gettign the error "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/exp/dbconnect.inc on line 8"  Do I have to do something differently in the cli version to get the mysql functions to work?  They work just find in the php5_mod for apache2.
[03:39] <stefg> ray79ct: do you know which partiton it is in linuxspeak (/dev/hda1 might be an example)
[03:39] <Br|ce> xorg freezes when the gnome desktop launches (ie just after the splashscreen)
[03:39] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, I believe the guest account defaults to a blank pasword
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: wait... how do you make a guest account that defs. to a blank password? I went System->admin.->users and groups in gnome, and did one manually!
[03:40] <ray79ct> in computer i see the hdd but when click he say that i don't have permission
[03:40] <webben> i can't believe that the path (seems) even more broken than on the last release :(
[03:40] <stefg> !ntfs > ray79ct
[03:40] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, try login in to the guest account..if it didnt ask you to set a pass then it should be blank
[03:40] <n9urk> anybody using php5-cli?
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: it did ask me to set a pass...
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: how do you set up one w/o one?
[03:41] <sztanpet> with what can i mount my image files, like daemon tools in windows?
[03:42] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, you can try leaving it blank when setting up the user account . not sure if that works though
[03:42] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: no, that doesn't
[03:42] <darich> google talk on Gaim is now working
[03:42] <darich> strange
[03:42] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, then set a pass make it something easy like " guest " or " hello " ....
[03:43] <bob_> can anyone help get my tablet working?  I've edited my xorg.conf, as many things I've read online said to, but my stylus still doesn't seem to work.  I am using an Gateway M275, wacdump -f c100 -c serial /dev/ttyS0 works, but it just counts up from zero, and wacdump -f c100 -c serial /dev/ttyS1 doesn't even load the program.
[03:43] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: yea... I was just wondering how the live cd works...
[03:43] <stefg> sztanpet: ISOs are mounted using 'mount -o loop ...' all other files from win ripping progs won't work ... there's a project called CDemu on sourceforge which might be worth a look
[03:43] <sztanpet> ty
[03:44] <gholen> I just find some interesting stuff on ubuntuforums, but ano last question, when i do a script, I have to make it as a file, then use chmod to make it execuebale?
[03:44] <void^> there are tools to convert pretty much anything to iso if required
[03:44] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333, the live cd is hard coded with the default pass. you have the source :) hack it
[03:44] <pianoboy3333> great....
[03:44] <giant_> i've installed 3dChess, but it isn't shown in game menu, how come??
[03:45] <giant_> i've installed 3dChess, but it isn't shown in game menu, how come??
[03:45] <webben> Hmm.... could there be a difference in loading etc/environment's path between a genuine root account and Ubuntu's fake root account?
[03:45] <giant_> webben: are you talking to me?
[03:45] <cps> giant_: because the package doesn't include a shortcut, you might be able to find it under /usr/games
[03:45] <giant_> ok, thx
[03:46] <webben> giant_: no, not specifically
[03:46] <shocktrooper1> 'sudo startx' gives me "xauth:  creating new authority file..."  and "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of 0'
[03:46] <shocktrooper1> and glx doesn't work.
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> what is wrong?
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> I dpkg-reconfigured my xserver-xorg.
[03:47] <ray79ct> thks
[03:47] <ray79ct> i can
[03:47] <shocktrooper1> but no blender. :(
[03:47] <ray79ct> ehehheeh
[03:47] <cps> giant_: you can then add your own shortcut to the menu using Applications > Accessories > Alacarte Menu Editor
[03:48] <giant_> cps: thx
[03:48] <shocktrooper1> I see my nvidia splash screen on boot
[03:48] <bob_> can someone help me with my tablet?
[03:49] <redblades> bob_, just take it with water, and consult doctor if you are still having symtoms
[03:49] <shocktrooper1> also $blender -w gives me "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[03:49] <bob_> yeah, ok, can anyone help me to get my tablet PC's stylus working?
[03:50] <LuckyX> how to create stupid shortcut to any program on destop ?
[03:50] <kthread> hi hi hi hola a todos
[03:50] <picket> !es
[03:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <LuckyX> !sr
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about sr
[03:50] <LuckyX> !ser
[03:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about ser
[03:51] <cps> LuckyX: why do you want to create a stupid shortcut?
[03:51] <LuckyX> i hate terminal
[03:51] <LuckyX> i dont want to start ubuntu live support from terminal
[03:51] <LuckyX> or any program
[03:51] <LuckyX> i want shtortcut on desktop
[03:51] <stefg> !enter
[03:51] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:51] <IdleOne> LuckyX, right click on the desktop and create a shortcut
[03:51] <LuckyX> sorry
[03:51] <cps> LuckyX: Right click on the desktop and select "Create Launcher"
[03:51] <gnomefreak> LuckyX: right click create launcher and under command use the command that you would start it in terminalk with
[03:51] <Kibou> ..
[03:52] <pianoboy3333> What is the name of the application that allows you to control what apps other acconts can use?
[03:52] <LuckyX> ahahah stupid... tnx again :)
[03:53] <ardchoille> pianoboy3333: chown+chmod?
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> ardchoille: there's a gnome app I believe...
[03:54] <cps> pianoboy3333: there is pessulus which lets you lock down certain things in applications, and then there is sabayon with which you can customise user profiles (removing things from the desktop etc)
[03:54] <ardchoille> pianoboy3333: oh. didn't know that
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> cps: which is being shown at the top of here: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnadmins.html
[03:54] <pianoboy3333> oh, it says, that's pessulus
[03:55] <cps> pianoboy3333: it shows up as "Lockdown Editor" in the Admin menu
[03:55] <webben> this is crazy... what happens when other people add a directory to PATH= in /etc/environment then do sudo -s -H then echo $PATH ... what path do they get?
[03:55] <Marktzar> how can I run a program from shell, but not make it output or use the shells process
[03:55] <andriijas> whats ubuntu alternate iso?
[03:56] <Marktzar> I tried to use /dev/null but that just supresses STDIN
[03:56] <Marktzar> I want to run torsmo without having to have a shell window open
[03:56] <andriijas> Marktzar: ./mybin &
[03:56] <andriijas> add & after to deamonize
[03:56] <Marktzar> thanks!
[03:56] <pianoboy3333> cps: one more thing, how do you run xnest?
[03:57] <cps> pianoboy3333: the easiest way is with gdmXnest
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> cps: does it work in compiz?
[03:58] <webben> seriously does sudo -s -H work with your path settings?
[03:58] <webben> is it just me somehow?
[03:58] <cps> pianoboy3333: I don't know, I haven't had luck getting all that eye candy working
[03:58] <pianoboy3333> cps: one more thing, with the lockdown editor, how do I choose what account I'm setting stuff for?
[03:59] <Marktzar> hmm, andriijas. it crashes when I deamonize it
[03:59] <Marktzar> or freezes rather
[03:59] <webben> i seem to be experiencing this problem with sudo -- except rebooting isn't fixing it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204014&highlight=sudo+path
[03:59] <andriijas> Marktzar: ok
[04:00] <kevinz> hello. i receive some "unauthenticated" updates in dapper. Does it matter?
[04:00] <matteo_> hi all
[04:00] <matteo_> is it possible to install xubuntu over debian minimal cd? or install xubunutu with a minimal floppy through internet ?
[04:00] <cps> pianoboy3333: it's just for the account you are logged in as
[04:00] <cps> pianoboy3333: you can also set gdm up to do automatic or timed logins which might cover what you were asking before about accounts with no passwords
[04:01] <pianoboy3333> cps: so... how I have to use gdmXnest to log in as another user no?
[04:01] <pianoboy3333> if I still want to be logged in
[04:01] <webben> hmm i wonder if it's actually a bug: someone was experiencing problems with sudo java: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203414&page=2
[04:01] <Sacro> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper, ive installed the latest stable, and im using the same drivers i used for Arch Linux, but i cant get wlan0 to appear
[04:01] <kenas> how can i run shell before running the desktop ??
[04:01] <cps> pianoboy3333: if you run gdmXnest it should come up with a nested window with the gdm login promt
[04:01] <godfather> is it possible listening radio (live) with ubuntu
[04:02] <godfather> ?
[04:02] <rambo3> yes
[04:02] <Scarecrow> Question : is there an utility for Dapper that can test your harddrive..  or do I have to use the vendor's test program (DOS) ?
[04:02] <stefg> !info testdisk
[04:02] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[04:02] <rambo3> godfather, what type of streaming mms shoutcast
[04:02] <Scarecrow> ubotu, tnx I'll try
[04:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about tnx I'll try
[04:03] <kenas> how can i boot in shell from the beginning ?
[04:03] <mumbles> !info reconfigerating X
[04:03] <ubotu> Package reconfigerating does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <stefg> Scarecrow: or use badblocks
[04:03] <mumbles> !info X
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <mumbles> ?
[04:03] <mumbles> !info X windows
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <kenas> !info X
[04:03] <kenas> !info X windows
[04:03] <kenas> !info X windows
[04:03] <ubotu> Package X does not exist in dapper
[04:03] <mumbles> trying to reconfiguer X as i have moved the ubuntu box across to a differnt machene
[04:03] <imbrandon> !info xserver-xorg
[04:03] <dr_willis> its like 'xfree86-org'
[04:03] <Sacro> !info Xorg
[04:03] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[04:03] <ubotu> Package Xorg does not exist in dapper
[04:04] <Sacro> !info ndiswrapper
[04:04] <kenas> !info xserver-xorg
[04:04] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> cps: how long should gdmXnest take?
[04:04] <imbrandon> Sacro, ndiswrapper-utils , try packages.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <danfg> i'm experiencing sound delay playing videos from the web, even flash animations sometimes. any clue what might be wrong?
[04:05] <stefg> esd
[04:05] <kenas> ok i am trying to get into terminal but its not possible
[04:05] <cps> pianoboy3333: do you get a window to show up?
[04:05] <stefg> !sound > danfg
[04:05] <pianoboy3333> cps: yes, a black window
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> cps: I'm even in a regular gnome session, not xgl
[04:06] <Sacro> hmmm, whats 6.06 called?
[04:06] <webben> dapper
[04:06] <cps> pianoboy3333: hmm now that I try it myself I only get an empty window too
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> !6.06
[04:06] <webben> Sacro: Dapper Drake
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about 6.06
[04:06] <pianoboy3333> cps: SCREWY!!!
[04:06] <IdleOne> !dapper
[04:06] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:07] <cps> pianoboy3333: I'm sure that's how it was supposed to work
[04:07] <kenas> i am still trying to install drivers of nvidia
[04:07] <cps> pianoboy3333: what are you trying to do with the nested session?
[04:07] <kenas> i have got into root
[04:07] <kenas> and i am in the shell
[04:07] <pianoboy3333> cps: use pessulus to configure the guest account
[04:07] <godfather> i'm a newbie and i wish i know how listen radio (live) with ubuntu
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> cps: I could just login to the guest account, no?
[04:08] <kenas> but the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:08] <kenas> doesnt go on..
[04:08] <Scarecrow> stefg, I'll look into it .. tnx
[04:08] <kenas> it says command not found
[04:08] <jwolff> hey
[04:08] <cps> pianoboy3333: yeah, you can just switch user without logging out
[04:08] <pianoboy3333> true...
[04:09] <Sacro> right, how do i install ndiswrapper-utils without the cd?
[04:09] <cps> pianoboy3333: then you can switch back and forth between the two logins with <CTL><ALT>F(Some number usually 7 and up)
[04:09] <jwolff> I'm having a little bit of trouble upgrading to dapper, can anyone help me here?
[04:09] <Sacro> or...i could just make sure it was in right
[04:09] <godfather> is there anyone can help me
[04:09] <godfather> ?
[04:09] <Knome> !upgrade > jwolff
[04:09] <jwolff> !upgrade
[04:09] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:09] <whyami> godfather: are you trying to listen to Internet radio?
[04:09] <jwolff> I've read it
[04:09] <cps> pianoboy3333: or install the fast user switch applet which gives you a menu on your panel you can use
[04:10] <godfather> yes
[04:10] <mumbles> any ideas on how to reconfiguer x ?
[04:10] <whyami> godfather: do you have the URL of the radio station stream?
[04:10] <godfather> with amarok
[04:10] <jwolff> well, technically, from warty to breezy to dapper
[04:10] <mumbles> i cant find it
[04:10] <whyami> godfather: sorry. can't help you. I don't know amarok. I use XMMS.
[04:10] <godfather> noproblrm
[04:10] <godfather> i have xmms too
[04:10] <jwolff> when I upgraded all of my warty packages, I restarted my comp and x won't start
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: can you get it to play in xmms?
[04:11] <godfather> no
[04:11] <godfather> wait
[04:11] <godfather> can you explain something about it?
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: do you have the URL of the stream? If so, send and I will check to see if it is up.
[04:11] <jwolff> so either I need help fixing x or burning my dapper iso in the command line
[04:11] <godfather> isnt it a live trasmission
[04:11] <godfather> but a recorded file
[04:11] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:11] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: well, technically, I think you have to add the Dapper repo's before you can do that
[04:11] <whyami> godfather: it isn't necessarily a recorded file.
[04:12] <godfather> ok
[04:12] <godfather> i try
[04:12] <whyami> godfather: what station are you trying to listen to? Do they have a website?
[04:12] <dr4g> Hey everyone - i';m having some serious + annoying problems with my ubuntu installation
[04:12] <dr4g> =I'm using the live CD right now..
[04:12] <godfather> www.bbc.co.uk
[04:12] <jwolff> I added the breezy repos and tried to dist-upgrade to breezy from warty last night, that's why I'm here
[04:14] <webben> godfather: i think you want to install realplayer for the BBC
[04:14] <jwolff> can I just get help burning the dapper iso in the command line?  I have no idea how to use cdrecord
[04:14] <Knome> mumbles: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <jwolff> tried that
[04:14] <webben> godfather: (unless it's a podcast)
[04:14] <pianoboy3333> cps: sabyon or w/e uses xnest, so it's ok now
[04:14] <jwolff> oh, nm
[04:14] <godfather> podcast= recordedfile?
[04:14] <webben> godfather: i've used RealPlayer to listen to BBC radio on previous ubuntu's so it ought to work
[04:14] <webben> godfather: not necessarily
[04:14] <godfather> ok
[04:15] <kenas> i have installed nvidia graphics
[04:15] <webben> godfather: what program are you trying to listen to?
[04:15] <kenas> sorry drivers
[04:15] <kenas> but no success
[04:15] <kenas> anyways
[04:15] <kenas> i cant see the screen
[04:15] <godfather> i have  many programs
[04:16] <godfather> xmms
[04:16] <kenas> desktop doesnt work
[04:16] <Toge> hello
[04:16] <godfather> amarok(for kde), mplayer,vlc
[04:16] <pianoboy3333> cps: so, then can't the guest account just use the lockdown editor to change the settings?
[04:16] <webben> godfather: no man, what BBC radio program
[04:16] <godfather> ah sorry
[04:16] <godfather> bbc news
[04:17] <godfather> the same that is present on satellite chanel
[04:17] <Toge> im searching a program for music (i tested vlc, totem, banshee, amarok, xmms, bmpx, rhymthbox), another one?
[04:17] <jwolff> can anyone help me?
[04:17] <webben> godfather: what's the URL for that?
[04:18] <dr4g> I've installed ubuntu (i'm running the live CD now but i can mount the partition to edit files)... Now, when i boot up.. Grub error 18 initiated.. and nothing boots... I've googled previously ofcourse, and they say i need a small partition at the start of my HDD at location "/boot"
[04:18] <godfather> i don't know
[04:18] <dr4g> I have some questions on setting this up... can anyony offer to help ?
[04:18] <dr4g> I've been at this for 9 hours now..
[04:18] <cps> pianoboy: I guess yes, but you can remove it from the menus and I think if you get really excited you can do things like make those settings mandatory
[04:18] <webben> godfather: look, if you can't work out where the radio programme you want to listen to is on the web, you won't be able to listen to it on any program on any platform
[04:18] <dr4g> cps, jwolff, cparker?
[04:19] <webben> godfather: i suggest you go here and pick one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/
[04:19] <godfather> ok i try
[04:19] <jwolff> dr4g: sorry, don't know :(
[04:19] <jwolff> I'm in here for support myself
[04:19] <dr4g> Someone here must know.. i assume its a common problem when i was on my google escapade
[04:19] <webben> godfather: and the software you want is RealPlayer + (probably) the Firefox plugin
[04:19] <gnomefreak> jwolff: what is it you need? i missed it if you sent it before
[04:20] <godfather> it needs realpalyer
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> cps: ah, ok
[04:20] <webben> godfather: that's right
[04:20] <meez> hey, im having a real problem... atm im in irssi on recovery mode... when I run ubuntu normally I get put in 720x400 with a blank screen... i can upload my xorg.conf if needed, but first, anyone got any ideas?
[04:20] <jwolff> gnome: I just need help burning the dapper iso in cdrecord
[04:20] <dr4g> I think i've wiped ALL my windows files too by accident (TIP: back b4 u install nix + never do it really drunk) like i did
[04:20] <dr4g> I think i've lost all my fucking data
[04:20] <pianoboy3333> cps: but is there a way to limit what programs they can use, like block them from using openoffice (just an example)?
[04:20] <jwolff> gnome: that, or getting x to start working after my warty-to-breezy upgrade
[04:20] <fire> Help.. I am having a apic problem.. that I can not seem to fix!!!
[04:20] <gnomefreak> jwolff: sorry thats 1 or 3 things i use gui for
[04:21] <webben> godfather: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods is the page for you
[04:21] <gnomefreak> jwolff: you shouldnt skip versions when upgrading its likely to break
[04:21] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: congrats, now you *have* to run Ubuntu
[04:21] <gnomefreak> s/or/of
[04:21] <jwolff> I'm skipping versions?
[04:21] <jwolff> warty to breezy to dapper, right?
[04:21] <pianoboy3333> cps: and, how do I get rid of somthing off of the system menu?!?
[04:21] <webben> godfather: see especially this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-16d4b26b1e26b89262d400f91db007f603d3bd42 and this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods#head-56ed59867c447c914e5c1dad880fa52bfe8bbd63
[04:21] <gnomefreak> jwolff: yes warty>hoary>breezy>dapper
[04:21] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: you may just be able to go from warty to dapper
[04:21] <cps> pianoboy3333: the easiest way is just to remove the shortcuts from their menus, but if you really want to stop them then you could do things like change the permissions on the binaries
[04:22] <meez> hey, im having a real problem... atm im in irssi on recovery mode... when I run ubuntu normally I get put in 720x400 with a blank screen... i can upload my xorg.conf if needed, but first, anyone got any ideas? im really fucked if i cant make it work :<
[04:22] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: seems like a lot of worthless downloading, why can't he just go from warty to dapper?
[04:22] <pianoboy3333> cps: nah, I think removing the shortcuts is fine
[04:22] <fire> ACPI: Looking for DSDT... not found!
[04:22] <jwolff> yeah, If I can get x to work again... I upgraded all of my warty packages, and after restarting I'm getting errors and can't start x
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: that might beable to be done but he didnt do that he already upgraded from warty to breezy
[04:22] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: what kind of errors?
[04:22] <mikearthur> I can't get my blog connecting to my mysql database
[04:22] <gnomefreak> jwolff: nvidia card?
[04:23] <cps> pianoboy3333: yeah I wouldn't want to mess around with them
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: oh, ok
[04:23] <jwolff> ati card
[04:23] <jwolff> font errors
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ouch
[04:23] <pianoboy3333> cps: but how do I rid of the shortcuts?
[04:23] <erUSUL> meez: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: yeah, he should just reinstall
[04:23] <jwolff> so I installed xfonts-base, and now even more errors
[04:23] <cps> pianoboy3333: alacarte lets you edit the system menus
[04:23] <gnomefreak> jwolff: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure its set on vesa drivers
[04:23] <pianoboy3333> I didn't know that...
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, installed every package that starts with, or contains xorg, and get an nVidia card
[04:23] <meez> not yet erUSUL, but i can try
[04:23] <meez> would have to reconfigure my mouse i guess :<
[04:23] <jwolff> so I should reinstall warty, and re download the dapper iso and just go from there?
[04:23] <Snow_Shelter> install*
[04:24] <jwolff> heh
[04:24] <meez> ill try it now
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: please read what i said above
[04:24] <rambo3> !info x-window-system-core
[04:24] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: X Window System core components. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:24] <jwolff> I've tried reconfiguring x
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: I'd just jump to dapper and deal with the issues there
[04:24] <ryanakca> For some reason "HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001" keeps on showing up in "env". each time I have to run "export -n HTTP_PROXY". Is there a way to make it permanent (so that it doesn't keep on showing up)?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: did you set the driver on vesa?
[04:24] <cps> pianoboy3333: at the bottom of the left hand pane is the system menu
[04:24] <jwolff> how do I do that?
[04:24] <Turms> updating edgy, among dependancies of xorg i find libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not available, where is it?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jwolff: the command i gave you above
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: remind me why you're taking the time to trouble shoot something that's just transitionary?
[04:24] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: that *should* update you to the newest version of dapper
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: not a good idea atm
[04:25] <jwolff> gnome: I did that exact command, but I don't know what you mean by "make sure it's on vesa drivers"
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: complete with a whole new set of problems
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> GnarlyBob: why not?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> andrewp: if there is the issue the issue will not be fixed during upgrade
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: he means go into the xorg.conf and put (crud, I forget what it's called)
[04:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:25] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: it's like something
[04:25] <dr_willis> 'vesa' as the driver ?  But it isn't for me. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to bludgeon sudo into behaving properly. (I'm trying to get it to run ruby from /opt/ruby/bin)
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: it's the way to burn CDs from command line
[04:27] <Snow_Shelter> webben: get a really big stick
[04:27] <jwolff> gnome:  I've tried that, and it didn't work... maybe I don't have it set to vesa drivers?
[04:28] <webben> nope, still not working
[04:28] <jwolff> alright, I'll try all of this, thanks guys
[04:28] <jrib> webben: does your users $PATH contain that?
[04:28] <erUSUL> webben: sudo -s ??
[04:28] <webben> it's in my /etc/environment
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: take sudo to the doctor?
[04:29] <webben> and yes if i do echo $PATH it contains it
[04:29] <godfather> tnx guys for your tricks
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: sudo passwd root
[04:29] <jrib> webben: that wasn't my question ;)  $PATH gets set in /etc/login.defs when you use X
[04:29] <Snow_Shelter> webben: then just use root for whatever you were using sudo for
[04:29] <dr4g> I've installed ubuntu (i'm running the live CD now but i can mount the partition to edit files)... Now, when i boot up.. Grub error 18 initiated.. and nothing boots... I've googled previously ofcourse, and they say i need a small partition at the start of my HDD at location "/boot", can anyone give me some advice/help on setting this up?
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: did you let windoze partition your drive?
[04:30] <webben> and ruby works direct from my account, and echo $PATH is correct, and (even more infuriatingly) sudo echo $PATH is correct
[04:30] <webben> but sudo still can't do "sudo ruby". And if i do sudo -i then the path goes wrong.
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: wait, that isn't the problem
[04:30] <snoops> dr4g got multiple drives?
[04:30] <jrib> webben: ok if your path contains it, then that's different
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: you need to tell grub to install in the MBR
[04:30] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: that's what I do, and it works every time
[04:30] <webben> jrib: I'm in one of the ctrl + alt + f2 type consoles --- does that count as "using X" ?
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: wait, is linux on drive B, and windows is on drive A?
[04:31] <jrib> webben: nope
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> webben: ctrl + alt + F7 is X
[04:31] <snoops> Snow_Shelter I'm assuming grub installed itself on the wrong mbr (it happened to me)..heh
[04:31] <Snow_Shelter> webben: also ctrl + alt + F8 is X:1
[04:32] <ikken> is it easy to set up Xgl/Compiz?
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> snoops: yea, that's probably what happened
[04:32] <dr4g> hi there Snow_Shelter snoops didnt see the replied
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: unplug any HDDs that aren't what you're gonna be installing linux on, and then reinstall
[04:32] <Ayabara> are there any major drawbacks to formatting a 150GB external hd as fat32 to be able to access it from both ubuntu and xp?
[04:32] <dr4g> I have one HDD
[04:32] <dr4g> Windows is on partition 0
[04:32] <dr4g> Linux on partition 1
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: actually
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: yea, unplug the HDD then reinstall linux ;)
[04:32] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: seriously
[04:32] <snoops> ikken yes and no.. depends on how familiar you are with linux
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: you on the live CD?
[04:33] <dr4g> how can i unplug a HDD that i wanna install on
[04:33] <snoops> dr4g umm if you have one hdd.. and you've installed..
[04:33] <cps> Ayabara: can't have files more than 4GB
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: I was kidding
[04:33] <dr4g> Snow_Shelter: sorry lol
[04:33] <ikken> snoops: what are the advantages of installing it?
[04:33] <dr4g> Yes i'm on live CD right now
[04:33] <dr4g> Ive installed my OS.. and i've managed to mount it
[04:33] <Marktzar> is there a change back ground command in ubuntu?
[04:33] <Marktzar> bsetbg
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: is the / paritition mounted?
[04:33] <Marktzar> like bsetbg*
[04:33] <dr4g> so i can WRITE to that partition#
[04:33] <jrib> webben: strange 'man sudo' led me to believe it uses the users PATH but that's not the case when i try it
[04:33] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: do this
[04:34] <pianoboy3333> cps: so, once I make all my changes in sabayon, I do profile->save and then it's good? have you ever used it before?
[04:34] <snoops> ikken an open gl rendered desktop, showcasing a few things that I believe will become standard for a new age of desktop environments.. lots of issues still of course. It's still in alpha
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: sudo chroot /dev/hdaX
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: grub install
[04:34] <dr4g> ok
[04:34] <dr4g> hold up
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: and that should install grub on your MBR
[04:34] <Carmen-> WHERE DO I FIND THE LATEST UBUNTU LIVE DOWNLOAD
[04:34] <ikken> snoops: would you have to have a lot of RAM and a nice video card to use it?
[04:34] <Carmen-> I DONT WANT THE INSTALL CD
[04:34] <Ayabara> cps: knew about that one and that won't be a problem
[04:34] <Carmen-> THE LIVE CD
[04:34] <jrib> Carmen-: ubuntu.com click on download
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
[04:34] <Carmen-> NO
[04:34] <jrib> Carmen-: and no need for caps :)
[04:34] <cps> pianoboy3333: I've played around with it before, sounds right
[04:34] <Carmen-> IM MAD
[04:34] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: cool it
[04:34] <Carmen-> THEY UBNTU PAGE ONLY GIVES INSTALL DISKS
[04:35] <Ayabara> Carmen: count to 10
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Carmen-: lose the caps
[04:35] <webbe1> Here's a demonstration of my sudo hell (this time from a putty console):  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17544
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: retard
[04:35] <dr_willis> The Live cd is the Install cd.
[04:35] <snoops> ikken you'll want a 3d capable nvidia or ati card basically.. not sure on lots of ram (don't think it needs much)
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> Carmen-: you on i686 or x86_64?
[04:35] <dr_willis> or you use the alternative or server cd.
[04:35] <Samuli^> Carmen-, normal install cd is live cd. Now, shut up.
[04:35] <shocktrooper1>  "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display'
[04:35] <Snow_Shelter> woah, sorry
[04:35] <cps> Ayabara: I use a FAT partition to share data between XP and Linux and it works fine
[04:35] <dr_willis> i think he missclicked. :)
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: no, the normal install CD is text based install
[04:36] <webbe1> i can't even understand how this path gets set in the first place: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[04:36] <dr4g> back Snow_Shelter my GF phoned :P
[04:36] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, by normal you mean alternate?
[04:36] <webbe1> how does it know to include X11R6 for instance?
[04:36] <dredhammer> hello folks can anyone direct me to a recent guide for installing xgl and compiz on dapper drake and how exactly can i create a limited user account that allows only web browsing, breezy allowed this with ease
[04:36] <snoops> Carmen- grab the desktop cd.. it's both a live cd + graphical install
[04:36] <dr4g> okay.... chroot thing didnt work..
[04:36] <dr4g> grub install worked.. i now have a grub prompt
[04:36] <dr4g> now what ?
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: no, the 'install' disc is a text install only.
[04:36] <gnomefreak> Carmen-: ubuntu.com look for desktop cd
[04:36] <pianoboy3333> cps: is there a tutorial or something, on how to use it?
[04:36] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: you have to add a line 'load "glx"' in the modules section of your xorg.conf afaics
[04:36] <dr4g> Remember its the error 18 i'm getting Snow_Shelter
[04:36] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: type install
[04:36] <Carmen-> ok
[04:36] <Carmen-> thanks guys
[04:37] <mc__> Snow_Shelter, you are wrong
[04:37] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, check again. Install cd is live/install and alternate install is text-mode.
[04:37] <dr4g> install /dev/hdaX
[04:37] <dr4g> ?
[04:37] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: hold on, let me check
[04:37] <mc__> Snow_Shelter, on the desktop cd only "Live" exists
[04:37] <gnomefreak> there is no install disk
[04:37] <Ayabara> I have a 100gb drive on my laptop. the xp partition is 12gb. how much should I use for the partition I will install ubuntu on?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> you have desktop/alternative/server
[04:37] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: well when I downloaded 6.06, the Live CD was one option, and the install CD was another, I don't know what it's migrated to since then.
[04:38] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, 'Load "glx"
[04:38] <dr4g> i get the grub prompt, and i type install and it says "invalid device requested"
[04:38] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: oh, ok
[04:38] <webbe1> where is the authoritative documentation on how Ubuntu's freakish sudo system is supposed to work?
[04:38] <cps> pianoboy3333: there's one here: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/sabayon it might be a bit out of date
[04:38] <gnomefreak> !sudo > webbe1
[04:38] <rambo3> dr4g, error 18 is it the error where /boot/grub dir is to far for BIOS to read
[04:38] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, "load "glx"' is already there
[04:38] <gnomefreak> webbe1: read your pm from ubotu
[04:38] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: yes something like that
[04:38] <Foobal> webbel: freakish?
[04:38] <Samuli^> Snow_Shelter, I don't care what it was when you downloaded :)
[04:38] <kevinz> i am really puzzled. I see this "W: GPG error: http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and i have follow some instruction from forum as "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5; gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -". but still the same
[04:38] <stefg> Ayabara: a standard install will be fine on 4-5 GB.. Conider a separate /home ond maybe /var partition.
[04:38] <dr4g> rambo - can you give me oadvice on fixing it ?
[04:38] <Snow_Shelter> Samuli^: glad to hear
[04:39] <shocktrooper1> its already there erUSUL
[04:39] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: which card is yours? what drivers are you using?
[04:39] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: well I don't know... sorry
[04:39] <dr4g> Snow_Shelter: error 18.. you don't know ?
[04:39] <maltron> hi - my sound isn't working properly - it won't mix sounds from two different apps.  mplayer reports that /dev/dsp is busy and can't be opened.  This has happened after some wrangling when no sound would work at all, after skype beta mucked around with my system.    Running dapper
[04:39] <shocktrooper1> GeForce MX400, yes its old, and IA32
[04:39] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: hold on...
[04:39] <gnomefreak> !grub > dr4g
[04:39] <dr4g> rambo3: down to you dude... no1 else knows.
[04:39] <gnomefreak> dr4g: read your pm from ubotu
[04:39] <dr4g> ok
[04:39] <gnomefreak> dr4g: there is a section on errors and how to fix them
[04:39] <Ayabara> stefg: ok. what goes in /var?
[04:39] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: are you using nvidia binary drivers
[04:39] <erUSUL> ?
[04:40] <rambo3> you ll have to make boot parition betwean 0-60 gig for bios to read it . some bios cant understand adress that is larger then some number
[04:40] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: what stage do you get the error in?
[04:40] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, yes, the nvidia splash shows when I boot
[04:40] <dr4g> bootup
[04:40] <dr4g> gnomefreak: i've looked on google, and its told me to install a partition on /boot
[04:40] <jrib> webbe1: ok this might have soemthing to do with it from man sudo: PATH Set to a sane value if sudo was configured with  the --with-secure-path option
[04:40] <dr4g> But i have questions about doing that now
[04:40] <erUSUL> Ayabara: variable data such as caches and logs; spool for mail and printers too
[04:40] <dr4g> Am i in the right direction ?
[04:40] <rambo3> dr4g, is it an old computer and where is ubuntu installed parition and at about what Gig ()
[04:40] <erUSUL> !nvidia > shocktrooper1
[04:40] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: read http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors
[04:40] <stefg> Ayabara: /var holds logfiles, the apt-cache and in some cases mail... stuff which should only grow to a certain limit
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> dr4g: that contains details about error 18
[04:41] <shocktrooper1> erUSUL, the drivers are already installed
[04:41] <dr4g> okay.. i'll have a read..
[04:41] <jwolff> hey again
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: hey
[04:41] <stefg> Ayabara: tell me how much RAM you have, how much diskspace you have and i could suggest a partition layout
[04:41] <jwolff> growisofs won't work... it asks for a DVD?
[04:41] <dr4g> rambo3: its a new PC... i have windows on parition 0, ubuntu on partition 1, and swap partition on 3
[04:41] <rambo3> dr4g, you have to partition your harddrive and create a small boot parition
[04:41] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: is this a dvd image, or a cd image?
[04:41] <webbe1> gnomefreak: thanks ... i have looked at that wiki page ... it doesn't mention "path" or "environment variables" specifically
[04:41] <jwolff> reconfiguring x didn't do a thing either
[04:42] <dr4g> windows == 77GB
[04:42] <dr4g> nix == 33
[04:42] <dr4g> swap = 1
[04:42] <webbe1> gnomefreak: but thanks
[04:42] <rambo3> in the first 60 gig that is dr4g
[04:42] <jwolff> it's the dapper ppc iso, I'm pretty sure it's a CD iso
[04:42] <erUSUL> shocktrooper1: yes i know but maybe you are lacking the opengl libs or somethin. check /var/log/Xorg.0 to see if you notice any error
[04:42] <dr4g> rambo3: ? sorry i didnt catch what you meant
[04:42] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, one sec
[04:42] <gnomefreak> jwolff: your ona  mac?
[04:42] <cps> pianoboy3333: on the sabayon website there is a pdf doc too: http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/
[04:42] <jwolff> yeah
[04:42] <pianoboy3333> ok, thanks, cps
[04:43] <n9urk> anyone here install pear for php5?  Building dependency tree... Done
[04:43] <n9urk> Package php5-pear is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:43] <n9urk> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:43] <n9urk> is only available from another source
[04:43] <n9urk> I get that error
[04:43] <Ayabara> jwolff: my disk is 100GB, and 13 are taken by xp. I have 1GB ram.
[04:43] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: ok, I'm not totally sure, but this should be the command you need
[04:43] <n9urk> any ideas?
[04:43] <spiderbatdad> anyone familiar w/ VMware
[04:43] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: growisofs /media/yourpartition/ubuntu-6.06-live-ppc.iso=/dev/hdX
[04:43] <rambo3> dr4g, you'll have to resize windows parition and create a small boot parition , i think there are tools for that , and install /boot on that partition
[04:44] <gnomefreak> jwolff: im not sure about macs but im htinking its easier to learn cdrecord and reinstall
[04:44] <erUSUL> n9urk: maybe you lack some repos.
[04:44] <stefg> Ayabara: do you burn DVDs frequently?
[04:44] <koko> hi
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: i thought so.. how can i modify the size of my windows partition, i don't want to lose ANY data
[04:44] <erUSUL> !repos > n9urk
[04:44] <gnomefreak> !cdrecord
[04:44] <dr4g> atm, i can't boot into windows either
[04:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrecord
[04:44] <gnomefreak> of course not
[04:44] <koko> hi snow
[04:44] <jwolff> alright, thanks
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: remember i can't download anything on this system
[04:44] <dr4g> rambo3: as i'm using the live CD
[04:44] <n9urk> erUSUL: do you have a suggestion as to which repo might have it?
[04:45] <erUSUL> !info php5-pear
[04:45] <ubotu> Package php5-pear does not exist in dapper
[04:45] <rambo3> dr4g, you ll have to ask someone else i am not expert .but gparted should work
[04:45] <Ayabara> stefg: not really. I store stuff I seldom use on a 300GB external, and burn backups of what I can't afford to lose
[04:45] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: growisofs -Z /dev/cdromburner=image.iso
[04:45] <erUSUL> ouch!!  it seems that iwas wrong :(
[04:45] <jrib> webbe1: yep, I expect ubuntu to do this similarly: http://survivor.sarovar.org/SUDO_Root.html
[04:45] <Snow_Shelter> jwolff: that should work
[04:46] <webbe1> in the ubuntu source package for sudo ... the debian/rules contains exactly the configure options used to build sudo for distribution - is that right?
[04:46] <spiderbatdad> anyone know where to find ia-32libs
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Snow_Shelter: hes gone
[04:46] <erUSUL> !info php-pear
[04:46] <ubotu> php-pear: PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository. In repository main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 294 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[04:46] <Snow_Shelter> gnomefreak: thanks, I noticed that when my auto completion didn't work
[04:46] <gnomefreak> spiderbatdad: sudo apt-get install ia-32libs
[04:46] <dr4g> Okay, well i can boot into windows and change the parition size.. however.. grub has fucked the windows bootloader..
[04:46] <erUSUL> n9urk: is php-pear
[04:46] <dr4g> How can i remove grub, to make a new windows bootloader
[04:46] <n9urk> erUSUL: ok thanks