[16:14] <jtrimmer> I might be in the wrong place to ask this question and if so please excuse me.  I have 5 servers at our central office 2 running ubuntu 3 running other flavors.  We have a site2site vpn which connects our remote office into our domain controller and all of our internal resources.  Well my problem is this.  I can ping and connect to every device from the remote office except the ubuntu boxes.  I've
[16:14] <jtrimmer> checked iptables and it is flushed and I can ping the box from the central box.  Any suggestions what I might check?
[16:14] <jrib> CAPcap: intsall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:14] <winyath> zX
[16:14] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: there are a few ways you can install Adobe Flash into  Ubuntu, and whichever way you choose,  you are likely to get the same issue/s
[16:14] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: in ubuntu unsupported extras you get Flash.. so I would uninstall unse: then install Gnash when i need flash and so forth and so on..
[16:14] <riktking> jrib, ive deleted it? is that a problem
[16:14] <kinja-sheep> jtrimmer: You might want to try in #ubuntu-server
[16:15] <jrib> riktking: wait for it to come back and read it...
[16:15] <winyath> i have lot of questions
[16:15] <Guest52843> hey
[16:15] <Guest52843> how is it going?
[16:15] <jrib> winyath: start at the beginning :)
[16:15] <skrite> winyath, go
[16:15] <jrib> !hi | Guest52843
[16:15] <jtrimmer> alright kinja thanks
[16:15] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: so flash is responible for tray icon transpirency?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> !ask |  winyath
[16:15] <MrUnix> !hi > Guest52843
[16:15] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: I assume that Gnash does not have these issues?
[16:15] <riktking> jrib, well ive stopped a program that was producing another log file that was getting to be near to similar size and no xsession log had been recreated
[16:15] <CAPcap> jrib i have rhythmbox still wont play them, i spent like 2 hours testing various media players last night, my problem is the ones that play m4a dont have library management tools which i need because i have thousands of songs
[16:16] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: i do not have that transparency issue.
[16:16] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Gnash is from the Free Software Foundation,  Swfdec is from the open source community,  both aren't as good as Adobe Flash, but they might be good enough for your Flash useage
[16:16] <jrib> CAPcap: what ubuntu version?
[16:16] <CAPcap> 9.10
[16:16] <leon> hey
[16:16] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: bcause u have stable version of smthing that is responsible about that
[16:16] <winyath> 1 how to install my web cam
[16:17] <skrite> winyath, check out a package called cheeze
[16:17] <CAPcap> jrib, ok now its playing them T_T i dont freaking get it
[16:17] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: thanks for the insight into flash
[16:17] <jrib> CAPcap: you probably had to restart rhythmbox
[16:17] <CAPcap> maybe i just needed to reboot my computer
[16:17] <winyath> thanks skrite
[16:17] <tx3> anyone familiar with dd-wrt?
[16:17] <CAPcap> jrib well it doesnt matter now anyways, its working. thanks for your time
[16:17] <jrib> tx3: if it's related to ubuntu, just ask your question
[16:17] <Aragon> i booted a live usb stick on a pc, but i have to authenticate which user and password should i use?
[16:17] <jrib> CAPcap: no problem, glad you figured it out
[16:18] <riktking> hi having trouble finding out the ram type in my laptop, when i use the dmidecode command it says i have ram of 1mhz?!?! any helpers?
[16:18] <llutz> tx3: /j #dd-wrt
[16:18] <Majjj> Helloooo
[16:18] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: what issue are you having?
[16:18] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: some of the tray icons arent transperent
[16:18] <Majjj> Do u know what mof is
[16:18] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: I have had Flash issues in the past ( on another distro  at the moment, where Flash is working fine in FIrefox )  anyway on Ubuntu in my expereince if Flash issues it's better to use another browser for it
[16:19] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png see
[16:19] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: this might sound funny but i do not have a tray.. i can only assume you are using KDE
[16:19] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: its gnome
[16:20] <tps_> If I write a daemon application how can I make it start on system start-up in Ubuntu?
[16:20] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: or not.. i c
[16:20] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Epiphany is good Galeon is good,  Konqueror is fast and that.   Opera is closed source, but still good,  etc
[16:20] <sebsebseb> !browsers | mediaprodigy_
[16:20] <hari_> iball c8 web cam not working help
[16:20] <hiexpo> goodmorning all
[16:20] <sebsebseb> hari_: not my area, but
[16:20] <anil56554> chrome is best
[16:20] <brainbox>  /join #linux
[16:21] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  hari_
[16:21] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: can u help me?
[16:21] <mediaprodigy_> ubuttu: sebsebseb: thanks for the list.. i am going to have to use another browser for that issue..
[16:21] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: Was it like that after your ubuntu install.
[16:22] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: What video card?
[16:22] <sebsebseb> anil56554: this Chrome stuff is getting at me a bit, because  even though Firefox might get issues with Adobe Flash on Ubuntu,  it's the one we should be supporting the most, since it's a good number two,  and has most of the market share after all versons of IE put together.  a version of IE on it's own though and well Firefox actsauly has more market share these days
[16:22] <usuario> qe pasa
[16:22] <sebsebseb> anil56554: whoops that was wrong above,  I meant to put, IE has most market share still, but only when it's more than one version
[16:22] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: i dont have ubuntu, that problem is connected with gnome, i dont know where else could i ask this question. Everything was fine before system update. Everything is ok with video cards
[16:22] <anil56554> sebsebseb: yeah you are right
[16:23] <usuario> hello
[16:23] <riktking> wanted to try and get the ir on my laptop working has anyone got anywhere to start from?
[16:23] <Migs> I'm trying to add a repo to Ubuntu 9.10, by adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list and I added "deb http://repo.mindtouch.com xUbuntu_9.10" but when I go to apt-get update, I get this: E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[16:23] <anil56554> sebsebseb: but chrome has not a good download manager and that's what i need
[16:23] <Migs> what's the right way to add a repo link?
[16:23] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, chrome with it's sandboxing is arguably the safest browser out there right now, not to mention the fastest
[16:23] <DemoOn> Migs: synaptics
[16:23] <Migs> okay
[16:24] <anil56554> chrome extension are also growing fast
[16:24] <theadmin> Migs: Most likely it should be deb http://repo.mindtouch.com karmic main
[16:24] <diddly> hi is there a way to list packages i have installed, but not their deps?
[16:24] <Migs> there's no /karmic directory
[16:24] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: maybe so, but quite a lot of web developers don't test in loads of popular browsers like they are meant to, in fact there are still doing websites only for IE.   they will make  a website for the browser that they think has most market share etc.  anyway this is off topic.
[16:25] <theadmin> Migs: It's not a directory, it's a repo line %) Try this. If it doesn't work, try also karmic universe and karmic multiverse. If still, something's wrong with this repo
[16:25] <Migs> okay
[16:25] <DemoOn> which package may cause this problem>> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png Some tray icons arent transperent?
[16:25] <riPPerMD> I am using Xubuntu and when surfing the internet with Firefox the system will randomly freeze. Usually happens when page is loading. The mouse continues to move but that is it. A hard shutdown is required to regain use again. Can anyone point me to a solution?
[16:25] <joshua__> gotta question
[16:25] <MFen> has anyone else experienced sigsegv running gvim, after upgrading to karmic?
[16:25] <mediaprodigy_> DemoOn: not sure If I can can help.. hopefully someone in here can help
[16:26] <theadmin> riPPerMD: Don't hard shutdown, use Alt+SysRq+REISUB
[16:26] <DemoOn> mediaprodigy_: i hope
[16:26] <riPPerMD> theadmin: thanks
[16:26] <anil56554> demoon: what is problem
[16:26] <theadmin> Or was it Ctrl? Damn %) Somehow, I have to use Alt AND Ctrl due to my keyboard config
[16:26] <joshua__> I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and now i have no splash screen, my computer just says the input type is not supported, how can i fix this?
[16:26] <DemoOn> anil56554: some of the tray icons have gray bcground, but should be transperent
[16:26] <Diverdude> I have a rather serious problem. I think it has to do with the Xorg server but I am not sure. I am running matlab on ubuntu, and from matlab i can create new windows for example when I want to make some sort of plot. After not very long, when I have opened and closed 3-4 windows, and I open a new window the entire ubuntu system goes crazy. The menu bars(int the top) are not showing in any windows at all. the system gets slower and unresponsive. But if
[16:26] <Diverdude>  i look at top-program in the terminal the CPU seems to be pretty idle and has no occupying processes...How can I figure out what on earth ubuntu does wrong?
[16:27] <papul> hi guys
[16:27] <elvis> Migs:  I think there's  supposed to be a "/" after xUbuntu_9.10
[16:27] <anil56554> demoon: which linux you use
[16:27] <sebsebseb> anil56554: yeah Firefox has download manager
[16:27] <DemoOn> anil56554: gentoo
[16:27] <sebsebseb> anil56554: plus you can downlod stuff with wget even if you really want  in the terminal
[16:27] <vikasap> I am not able to install ubuntu 9.04 through a CD as the display gets screwed up. What do I do ?
[16:27] <DemoOn> anil56554: but everything was ok before update, so its with one of the package
[16:28] <sebsebseb> vikasap: which graphics card?
[16:28] <DemoOn> anil56554: i think
[16:28] <joshua__> no ideas
[16:28] <hiexpo> gwget works great
[16:28] <anil56554> sebsebseb: so tell me a good download manager for ubuntu
[16:28] <vikasap> sebsebseb: I think it is the NVIDIA Geforce
[16:28] <IdleOne> DemoOn: you realise this is #ubuntu?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> vikasap: why 9.04?
[16:28] <DemoOn> IdleOne: because problem is with gnome\
[16:28] <sebsebseb> anil56554: I don't know, but Opera probably has one
[16:28] <anil56554> demoon: can you tell me which icons
[16:28] <Diverdude> any1?
[16:28] <DemoOn> http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1585/screenshotbbq.png
[16:28] <theadmin> anil56554: Try JDownloader or GWget
[16:29] <IdleOne> DemoOn: gnome is also used on gentoo. better luck asking in #gentoo
[16:29] <sdf23> hi all, i m using crossover 8 with ms office 2007 on ubuntu 9.04. i m planning to upgrade to 9.10 do i have to watch for any issues
[16:29] <DemoOn> IdleOne: no luck at all
[16:29] <sebsebseb> !anyone | Diverdude
[16:29] <theadmin> sdf23: I'd really go with OpenOffice... Altough, you shouldn't experience any problems on 9.10
[16:29] <Diverdude> sebsebseb, what are you talking about? I just posted a long question here
[16:29] <sebsebseb> sdf23: well  yeah
[16:29] <anil56554> I want a automatic downloader that can download with link click in browsers
[16:30] <uniq_user> I'd recommend a clean install over an upgrade
[16:30] <DemoOn> anil56554: any advice?
[16:30] <sdf23> theadmin: i do use that . actually i have to use outlook for exchange (comapny servers)
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: the upgrade to 9.10 might go wrong, plus  you don't get Grub 2 on upgrade, and I assume you done Ext3 for 9.04 since that's default, that won't get converted to Ext4 on upgrade, but you don't really need that anyway
[16:30] <vikasap> sebsebseb: I dont have any other CD for the moment. I could upgrade it later once done with initial bot
[16:30] <vikasap> *boot
[16:30] <theadmin> anil56554: I see. I know of one, but it's Linux version is still in development
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: really you don't need Grub 2 either, but in the long run it's better to have
[16:30] <sebsebseb> sdf23: I guess
[16:30] <vikasap> sebsebseb: And it is NVIDIA Quadro F 550
[16:30] <anil56554> theadmin: which one
[16:30] <Diverdude> sebsebseb, ??
[16:31] <uniq_user> 10.04 is dumping grub2 for Plymouth
[16:31] <theadmin> anil56554: freedownloadmanager.org
[16:31] <sebsebseb> Diverdude: ok I missed it
[16:31] <sebsebseb> Diverdude: then
[16:31] <sebsebseb> uniq_user: no
[16:31] <pif> any workaround for lucid boot error "mountall: Could not connect to plymouth" ?
[16:31] <IdleOne> Diverdude: I suspect it has something to do with matlab more so then with anything ubuntu is doing. try running matlab from terminal and see if you get any specific error messages
[16:31] <CAPcap> I cannot watch videos on www.nbc.com I have tried seamonkey firefox and opera. suggestions? or can i not get it to work at all?
[16:31] <hiexpo> there isrhe one in firefox that operates that way
[16:31] <gharz> guys, my system updated to the latest kernel and my ubuntu has been installed inside windows (wubi)... but now my MBR is messed up. grub is showing upon boot. how do i fix my grub or MBR back?
[16:31] <uniq_user> no?
[16:31] <sdf23> i m not really concerned about ext4 i just need to keep my ugly outlook n crossoffice moving ....
[16:31] <sebsebseb> uniq_user: Grub 2 is staying,  plynmouth will be the actsaul boot up stuff
[16:31] <anil56554> theadmin : do they have for linux
[16:31] <DemoOn> i just need to know wich package could cause the problem with tray icons, so i could reinstall or downgrade...
[16:31] <theadmin> anil56554: I said, they're making it
[16:31] <gharz> anyone?
[16:31] <daem0nInflux> is gedit more like notepad or wordpad?
[16:32] <uniq_user> ahh, I was under the impression plymouth was another bootloader
[16:32] <sebsebseb> daem0nInflux: notepad
[16:32] <cherva> can I flush all the tables in iptables exept 1 ?
[16:32] <pk> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL30219/al-75052-1/AIO_CDB_NonNet_Full_Win_WW_130_141.exe         can anyone of you copy this file to a HTTP server .....i dont have access to FTp here....please
[16:32] <usr13> gharz: What is your question?
[16:32] <anil56554> theadmin: which torrent downloader you use
[16:32] <daem0nInflux> thanks sebsebseb
[16:32] <hiexpo> notepad
[16:32] <sebsebseb> daem0nInflux: np
[16:32] <IdleOne> DemoOn: that is the problem. packages might (probably) be named differently in gentoo.
[16:32] <DemoOn> IdleOne: no its not
[16:32] <theadmin> anil56554: Torrents? Just transmission which comes with Ubuntu
[16:32] <anil56554> pk i have a solution
[16:32] <pk> tell
[16:32] <DemoOn> IdleOne: gnome is gnome
[16:32] <sebsebseb> vikasap: maybe you have a bad CD
[16:33] <theadmin> pk: Wait a sec, I will do it in a while and give you the link via PM, okay?
[16:33] <CAPcap> I cannot watch videos on www.nbc.com I have tried seamonkey firefox and opera. suggestions? or can i not get it to work at all?
[16:33] <anil56554> download yourfreedom from http://your-freedom.net
[16:33] <IdleOne> DemoOn: fine, whatever you say. I still think you need to ask in #gentoo
[16:33] <ZykoticK9> pk, if you're using linux in a terminal just use "wget ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software11/COL30219/al-75052-1/AIO_CDB_NonNet_Full_Win_WW_130_141.exe"
[16:33] <usr13> !flash |CAPcap
[16:33] <theadmin> pk: Or no... did not think it's 300MB big
[16:33] <CAPcap> usr13 i have flash
[16:33] <DemoOn> IdleOne: but there was this issue with ubuntu too
[16:33] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: What's the problem in using wget on windows? XD
[16:34] <anil56554> theadmin: transmission does not work with slow connection
[16:34] <usr13> CAPcap: Do you get some sort of error?
[16:34] <Shazam> I'm on 9.04, the lastest version of eclipse in my repos is 3.2, and I need 3.3+ . Do I just have to install the .deb manually, or is there a way I can let apt handle it for me?
[16:34] <vikasap> sebsebseb: No, It works on other machines
[16:34] <ZykoticK9> theadmin, the "problem is using windows" ;)
[16:34] <usr13> CAPcap: What happens when you try to play one of CNNs videos?
[16:34] <CAPcap> no it just never loads thru
[16:34] <nibbler> cherva: you can delete rules by rule, by number, or flush whole tables. so if you want to flush all but the INPUT table, just flush the others?
[16:34] <theadmin> ZykoticK9: I know, Windows is the whole problem everywhere. But there is a windows wget
[16:34] <DemoOn> IdleOne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pidgin/+bug/447548
[16:34] <vikasap> sebsebseb: It just does not have the right driver. How can I tell it to not use the graphics card for the display ?
[16:35] <frostbite7> where can i get plugins?
[16:35] <Diverdude> IdleOne, ok, trying that
[16:35] <theadmin> Anyway, pk, try TOR or a proxy to get this
[16:35] <frostbite7> and how do i install them?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> vikasap: well there will be some sort of build in open source driver type thing that NIvida will use, and if you can't use that well
[16:35] <gharz> usr13: my ubuntu was installed in window$ (wubi)... just now ubuntu has updated it's kernel... after the update and upon reboot grub is messed up. i don't have the option to choose amongst windows xp , ubuntu and win7
[16:35] <frostbite7> ...lol and good morning
[16:35] <theadmin> frostbite7: Plugins for wud?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> vikasap: oh your booting up into the live session?  have you tried just the install option?
[16:35] <pk> theadmin: thanx anyways
[16:36] <aha> hello
[16:36] <usr13> CAPcap: Run [firefox] from terminal and see if you see errors.
[16:36] <usr13> CAPcap: i.e.:  firefox http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/20/am.carroll.haiti.aftershocks.cnn&hpt=C1
[16:36] <glkhao035> !codecs
[16:36] <aha> guys is there a way to customize the look of the prompt without been root
[16:36] <frostbite7> theadmin plug ins like autumn leaves and stars
[16:36] <Diverdude> IdleOne, but how can matlab effect the entire system, even after i have closed matlab?
[16:36] <Diverdude> IdleOne, killed it
[16:36] <obiwan_> sure aha
[16:36] <theadmin> frostbite7: For what program, I mean?
[16:37] <obiwan_> open a terminal
[16:37] <vikasap> sebsebseb: There is just one option at the boot : "Install Ubuntu" ...
[16:37] <obiwan_> and edit profile preferences
[16:37] <aha> i deleted some hidden files and now the prompt is different
[16:37] <frostbite7> compiz on ubuntu 9.04
[16:37] <raven> is there a simple panel-plugin for counting the umts-data within one month?
[16:37] <aha> how can I make it look better
[16:37] <IdleOne> Diverdude: don't know. I was just hoping to give you a way of getting more info that might help you
[16:37] <CAPcap> usr13 i got it, they play in firefox and opera not gonna test seamonkey
[16:37] <theadmin> frostbite7: Well, try out gnome-look.org, a lot of stuff there
[16:38] <Diverdude> IdleOne, thx....its running from terminal now
[16:38] <cobreta> :)
[16:38] <CAPcap> usr13 im not having problems with flash generally i can play most other videos and flash files. the issue is nbc
[16:38] <frostbite7> lol well like do they have plug ins like the snow pluin or rain plug in or cube atlantis?
[16:38] <usr13> CAPcap: So what was the problem?
[16:38] <aha> obiwan_: how can I change the look of the prompt?
[16:38] <theadmin> frostbite7: Well, it's the best place for GNOME nice-looks I know
[16:38] <gharz> anyone?
[16:38] <sebsebseb> vikasap: which CD?
[16:39] <ZykoticK9> aha, ~/.bashrc file and the PS1 value controls the prompt
[16:39] <obiwan_> aha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31247
[16:39] <frostbite7> lol cool thank you very much :-)
[16:39] <usr13> gharz: Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:39] <gharz> i need to recover my grub. after update, grub doesn't work... i don't have the selection amongst window$ and ubuntu
[16:39] <gharz> usr13: yes... 9.10
[16:39] <obiwan_> that's a brief plus nice way to do it
[16:39] <cherva> nibbler: where can I find all the default tables and chains of iptables
[16:39] <aha> ZykoticK9: 10x I'll create the file
[16:39] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | gharz
[16:39] <usr13> !grub2 | gharz
[16:39] <Diverdude> IdleOne, now ubuntu has fucked up it seems....nothing in the terminals :(
[16:40] <raven> is there a simple panel-plugin for counting the umts-data within one month?
[16:40] <sdf23> i m not really concerned about ext4 i just need to keep my ugly outlook n crossoffice moving ....
[16:40] <theadmin> !language | Diverdude
[16:40] <gharz> thanks, guys... i'll check that out.
[16:40] <nibbler> cherva: its INPUT OUTPUT FORWARD and PREROUTIG POSTROUTING in nat
[16:40] <vikasap> sebsebseb: Ah...9.04 ... Can I do an install from the command line . I see that the terminals are ready
[16:40] <Diverdude> IdleOne, the menues are disappearing...very strange
[16:40] <sebsebseb> vikasap: well  don't think so with the desktop CD, the alternate maybe so
[16:40] <usr13> CAPcap: It is working now?
[16:40] <cherva> nibbler: 10x
[16:40] <sebsebseb> vikasap: I don't know
[16:40] <CAPcap> usr13 why dont you go to nbc.com and try one of their videos and tell me if it plays for you. for me it just sits there looking like its loading for all eternity
[16:40] <IdleOne> Diverdude: this happens with other applications also?
[16:40] <Xfact1> Picnik online photo editor does not working on my PC, I am using Ubuntu 9.10, I have latest flash player installed, I use latest Firefox and I have descent hardware, after uploading a picture to edit, my browser is freezing, anyone can tell me solution? (if you never heard about picnik before, then http://www.picnik.com/ will help you)
[16:41] <Diverdude> IdleOne, Hmm i dont recall so...but i cannot say it does not
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: ok it's FLash
[16:41] <theadmin> Xfact1: Maybe you need Java too
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: Adobe Flash messe's up in FIrefox on Ubuntu,  when it comes to some of us
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: it can make the browser freeze or close down, that kind of thing
[16:41] <usr13> CAPcap: I just did.  It works   ok.
[16:41] <theadmin> Xfact1: Ah I know. Flash + Firefox + UPloading on Ubuntu = Freeze
[16:41] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER für umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:41] <Xfact1> sebsebseb: yea, then which alternative I should use to run flash files?
[16:41] <usr13> CAPcap: Did you try what I said?
[16:42] <duffydack> theadmin, yeah i have noticed that before.
[16:42] <theadmin> Xfact1: Well... there is some free flash alternative in the repoes, but I forgot the name
[16:42] <duffydack> theadmin, in fact its any browser with flash and uploading
[16:42] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: you can try Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives to Flash, but they probably aren't quite good enough for your usage,  you can also  use Adobe Flash  the Mozilla one in other browsers that use it, such as Epiphany   sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser or Galeon
[16:42] <IdleOne> Diverdude: does matlab have a help forum you can post to? I really don't know how to help you with this issue, sorry
[16:42] <Xfact1> v yea, it's doesn't need java, and thats mean we have got a notable *bug* on ubuntu karmic!
[16:42] <CAPcap> usr13: what did u say to try
[16:42] <CAPcap> ?
[16:42] <theadmin> duffydack: I only tried Firefox :D
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: no
[16:43] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: Adobe Flash is closed source, only Adobe can fix it for Ubuntu
[16:43] <Diverdude> IdleOne, Its strange because i never had this sort of problem when running matlab from windows....And it does not help to restart matlab. I have to restart the entire system
[16:43] <aha> guys how do I go back in the terminal without quiting irssi?
[16:43] <usr13> CAPcap: Scroll up
[16:44] <CAPcap> i cant find what u said thats why im asking
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Xfact1: however  I think there's some kind of plugin issue  with Firefox, hence that Flash issue.  basically a plugin doesn't work properly, and then the browser goes wrong
[16:44] <diago> can I disable the notification that popup?
[16:44] <usr13> CAPcap:  firefox http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2010/01/20/am.carroll.haiti.aftershocks.cnn&hpt=C1  # From terminal - watch for errors - tell us what you see.
[16:44] <diago> in 9.10
[16:44] <aha> is there a way to minimize irssi in the terminal so I can use it?
[16:45] <Myrtti> aha: minimize in the terminal? huh?
[16:45] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER für umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:45] <llutz> aha: use screen
[16:45] <aha> or something like that
[16:45] <paulus68> aha you could use the screen option
[16:45] <Xfact1> even you know what, I am an artistic guy and looking for a decent video editor for long day, and I found one online video editor, which runs also totally on Flash, running nicely on my PC! http://mixerbeta.jaycut.se/mixer
[16:45] <aha> and then how do i switch back and forth in the screen?
[16:46] <sebsebseb> raven: fur  with the two dots,  are you Germen?  if so there's another channel you can try as well
[16:46] <llutz> aha: ctrl-a-n/p
[16:46] <paulus68> !screen|aha
[16:46] <Xfact1> a whole online video editor is working, but the photo editor is not :(
[16:46] <Myrtti> aha: ctrl-a-c creates a new window, ctrl-a-p / n, scrolls between
[16:46] <aha> paulus68: 10x
[16:46] <raven> sebsebseb, two dots?
[16:46] <llutz> raven: u-umlaut ü
[16:46] <Myrtti> aha: you can detach from the session with ctrl-a-d and reattach with screen -dr
[16:46] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I found out what I needed to do, instead of sudo killall xorg, it was, sudo killall Xorg
[16:47] <sebsebseb> raven: yes  in your text
[16:47] <raven> oh sry sebsebseb
[16:47] <sebsebseb> raven: no it's fine, I was just wondering about it
[16:47] <raven> need a simple DATA COUNTER for umts (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[16:47] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, thanks for al your help! :D
[16:47] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Then you created the xorg.conf?
[16:47] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: I thought I did told you Xorg. :P
[16:47] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I sure did, maybe it was my fault >.<
[16:47] <raven> sebsebseb, you're right it seems that i am tired ;)
[16:48] <sebsebseb> raven: same here
[16:48] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: ._.
[16:48] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, -.-"
[16:48] <sebsebseb> raven: or so it seems
[16:48] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: At least we both know it work. :)
[16:48] <CAPcap> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/359614/
[16:48] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, haha yes ;D
[16:49] <paulus68> are there any known issues using nfs server on ubuntu server 9.10?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> raven: what's umts anyway?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> !server | paulus68
[16:49] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: 3G
[16:49] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, wuh oh..
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: oh mobile something?
[16:49] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: yes. faster internets
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: oh ok ty
[16:50] <pedro> hola
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: I guess
[16:50] <Xfact1> !kernel
[16:50] <paulus68> sebsebseb: not what I ment
[16:50] <brainbox> im running server
[16:50] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: theoretical maximum download ~5MBit/s
[16:50] <kelevra> hallo
[16:50] <llutz> very theoretical
[16:50] <kelevra> kann hier irgendwer deutsch? :DD
[16:50] <llutz> !de  | kelevra
[16:50] <brainbox> Linux <IP_ADDRESS>-custom #1 SMP Sun Jan 17 05:31:32 EST 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:51] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, seems it didnt work, although I recieved a better output than before, I'll attempt to remove the blank xorg file, see if that fixes anything
[16:51] <kyle6513> be riiiiight back
[16:51] <sebsebseb> paulus68: sure, but  the last bit,  there's a channel for the server edition, which might be more suitable for your issue
[16:51] <freeride> !wget
[16:51] <Myrtti> llutz, sebsebseb: requires a HSDPA device, but 3G nonetheless. a lot faster than normal GSM.
[16:51] <paulus68> umts is data trafic over mobile network 3G but can be very expensive if you don't pay attention
[16:51] <freeride> !wget | freeride
[16:52] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: whatever  a HSDPA device is, I don't know that much about mobile
[16:52] <llutz> Myrtti: 1st you'll need a provider offering all that, everywhere at affordable prices
[16:52] <Myrtti> llutz: Finland ♥
[16:52] <uiko>  I am able to open *.torrent file in notepad in windows but in gedit i cant do this , please give me any solution ?
[16:52] <ZykoticK9> freeride, i don't think there is a wget factoid
[16:52] <llutz> Myrtti: so, that's "very theoretical" in DE
[16:53] <llutz> Myrtti: fast internet but too cold :(
[16:53] <sebsebseb> llutz: well not in the summer
[16:53] <raven> sebsebseb, internet trough the mobile-phone-network
[16:53] <sebsebseb> raven: oh ok
[16:53] <fishsponge> hey people - does anyone know if linux has LLDP (link layer discovery protocol, for creating network maps in this instance) enabled by default these days?
[16:53] <sebsebseb> ty
[16:53] <Switch10> uiko: have you tried nano?
[16:53] <raven> sebsebseb, what do you have as mobile-networks?
[16:53] <aml> hola! alguien habla español???
[16:53] <uiko> nano, what is that ?
[16:54] <dabaR> !es
[16:54] <Switch10> uiko: cl text editor
[16:54] <aml> ok
[16:55] <uiko> it is showing installed in software manager , now how to open nano
[16:55] <uiko> ?
[16:55] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, Alright, I found out it is no longer outputted into /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[16:55] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: It is not. It is in /root/ something (with default).  Which we never got around to it. :p
[16:55] <Switch10> uiko: open a terminal and type nano then the torrent file
[16:56] <dabaR> uiko: why are you not able to open it with gedit?
[16:56] <Switch10> Gedit should work
[16:56] <sebsebseb> raven: makers or networks?  networks will be different for each countrey.  Also you seem to be asking me something that is off topic.  I don't care that much about mobile phones, except slightly when it comes to stuff like what operating system they are running and what browser they have, for those that have a browser.   At the end of the day even mobile phones that run Linux are propritary,  they are sold, and then people also pay to use a mobile
[16:56] <uiko> dabar it is giving some 'character coding error'
[16:56] <sebsebseb> phone network with that phone.
[16:57] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, nope, /home/user/xorg.conf.new
[16:57] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbm videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[16:57] <uiko> switch10 the file is at desktop , how to open it, I opened nano in terminal
[16:57] <stefan__> Can a mod kick the nick 'Noble' from the server? Forgot to log out at work :/
[16:57] <Shambat> is there a way to, after the process is finished, see how long a pid ran for? I realize I can go to "top" and see it there, but is there a way to record the running time once it finishes?
[16:57] <riktking> my .xsession.errors has Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[16:57] <riktking> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing. at the end of it
[16:58] <Switch10> Type cd Desktop first then nano file.torrent
[16:58] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Move it to /etc/X11/ (and eliminate .new)
[16:58] <dabaR> stefan__: do you have noble as a registered nickname?
[16:58] <uiko> is there any GUI based App which can open *.torrent coz the torrent file name is too hug
[16:58] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: I'm pre-occupied writing a script. :)
[16:58] <uiko> huge
[16:58] <stefan__> dabaR, yes
[16:58] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> riktking: you can probably ignore that message. do you need directory sharing with other users enabled right now?
[16:59] <dabaR> stefan__: then you can /msg nickserv release Noble $password or so
[16:59] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, If I pastebin this. would you kindly help me decipher whats in this, oh, i see, ill try dr google then :)
[16:59] <stefan__> dabR ty
[16:59] <riktking> onetinsoldier, no
[16:59] <Switch10> uiko: hit tab after typing a few characters
[16:59] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: Okay. Pastebinit.
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> riktking: roger. it's a networking sharing thing
[16:59] <riktking> onetinsoldier, but i was about 2gig before i deleted it and rebooted
[17:00] <onetinsoldier> riktking: oh
[17:00] <Guest94426> quit
[17:00] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, no its okay, I guess the best way for me to learn this, and linux is for me to teach myself :) I will however come back if im pulling my hair out over this
[17:00] <kuu887>  Sds e meus melhores cumprimentos aos do canal...
[17:00] <kuu887>   preciso de auxilio em NSE do NMAP..fazendo aprim.alguem manja
[17:00] <CAPcap> ok i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[17:00] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, but is there any chance that this file would cause my computer not to boot?
[17:00] <sebsebseb> !pt |  duffydack
[17:00] <sebsebseb> duffydack: uh  no not you
[17:00] <riktking> onetinsoldier, spose im just gunna have to keep an eye on it?>
[17:00] <sebsebseb> odd way to mess up the auto complete since their name beings with a po
[17:00] <sebsebseb> p
[17:00] <sebsebseb> begins
[17:01] <sebsebseb> k  then ok well tired
[17:01] <onetinsoldier> riktking: i suppose
[17:01] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: If that happen, you should fall down to TTY1.
[17:01] <sebsebseb> !pt |  kuu887
[17:01] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, ah then do a rm
[17:01] <uiko> It worked thanks a lot switch
[17:01] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: mv -- be safe than sorry.
[17:01] <Switch10> uiko: no prob
[17:02] <riktking> onetinsoldier, just checked it and it has the same msg again
[17:02] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, good luck with your scripts! that's my next endeavour, learn how to make/do them >.<
[17:02] <CAPcap> ok i know i keep asking but i would like some help so.. i cannot get nbc videos to play. i have flash installed and other videos play. help?
[17:02] <riktking> onetinsoldier, is there a way to stop this from happening
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, are you in the US?  All i get from Canada is the NBC logo flashing and nothing else...
[17:02] <duffydack> sebsebseb, huh??
[17:03] <duffydack> sebsebseb,  oh.. ok
[17:03] <Switch10> Is there a program out there that shows the individual voltages of co
[17:03] <Switch10> Co
[17:03] <CAPcap> I am in the US and thats all i get too. but other usr13 says it plays for him
[17:03] <DrBelka> whats up, guys?
[17:03] <Switch10> Components*
[17:03] <DeeTah> i just overwrote my mbr
[17:03] <CAPcap> he logged off halfway thru helping me tho
[17:03] <DeeTah> how to recover it while i'm still on ubuntu?
[17:03] <DeeTah> (how to reinstall grub2 on mbr?)
[17:03] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | DeeTah
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, same result for me with both FF and Chrome BTW
[17:04] <seft> HOw to know names of all applications that comes with linux terminal and only runs in terminal
[17:04] <CAPcap> zykotick9 ive tested in Firefox seamonkey and opera
[17:04] <MorphyNOR> seft: was that a question?
[17:05] <seft> yes
[17:05] <onetinsoldier> riktking: yes, i believe there is. i would try and help with it, but i have to go. good luck
[17:05] <sebsebseb> seft: not sure if you can just find that out, plus Ubuntu won't have all of those installed by default, and all of them won't be in the repo either I guess
[17:05] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, hopefully someone from the US can test for you (i'm sure Canada is blocked)
[17:06] <CAPcap> who's from the US that can test an nbc.com video for me?
[17:06] <goruka> HELP! I'm on ubuntu 9.10 and i did the latest recommended update, then restarted and now netorking is _incredibly_ slow. This computer with windows on the same subnet works fine...
[17:07] <Django1> nbc.com working here
[17:07] <goruka> ping to router of same subnet losses packets like crazy
[17:07] <usr13> CAPcap: nbc.com video works.  It is your system that is deficient.
[17:08] <CAPcap> usr13 well then why dont u help me fix it?
[17:08] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: it could be a tempory  problem with your ISP's DNS (assuming your using that)
[17:09] <ZykoticK9> Django1, usr13 did you try clicking on an episode of something?  the videos on the main page work for me too - but if I click Magnum PI on the right side, it sits on the NBC logo
[17:09] <CAPcap> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/359614/ thats what u asked for
[17:09] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: oh video, not the whole website nevermind then
[17:10] <Django1> ok, magnum pi isn't working for me either
[17:10] <usr13> CAPcap: Is your 9.10 system fully updated?
[17:11] <jay_> hello...?
[17:11] <jenda> Is there a way to get rid of pulseaudio altogether and use only alsa instead? My apps crash whenever two of them try to use the sound devices, and I think pulseaudio is the culprit. I don't know how to get around it, though.
[17:11] <sebsebseb> !hello | jay_
[17:11] <CAPcap> usr13 yes it is
[17:11] <jenda> For example, my firefox crashes when trying to play a video or sound while amarok is running.
[17:12] <goruka> jenda, no, there is no way and it's default in ubuntu. remove it and all gnome stuff stops working properly
[17:12] <usr13> CAPcap: Have you tryed just rebooting?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> jenda: there is a way to remove pulseaudio, but  it's probably not really the best idea,  since other things can mess up as a result
[17:12] <goruka> jenda, and i agree, incredibly stupid decision given how buggy pulseaudio always is
[17:12] <pif> what is root's default passwd on a newly installed system?
[17:12] <CAPcap> usr13 i tried watching last night, didnt work. shut down my computer overnight and started up this morning. still not working
[17:13] <sebsebseb> jenda: try  Flash in another browser instead of Firefox
[17:13] <goruka> also HELP! I'm on ubuntu 9.10 and i did the latest recommended update, then restarted and now netorking is _incredibly_ slow. This computer with windows on the same subnet works fine...
[17:13] <jenda> goruka: indeed, I have been having trouble with it every since it was added.
[17:13] <sebsebseb> jenda: Adobe Flash gets issues in Firefox in Ubuntu for some users
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> jenda, i DO NOT RECOMMEND it - but removing pulse info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/359627/ --- first off, you're dramatically chaning Ubuntu.  secondly, you won't have the default volume meter in system tray anymore
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, same here
[17:14] <erUSUL> !root | pif
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, pulseaudio is more trouble than benefits so far for ubuntu
[17:14] <goruka> jenda, hope they realize that soon
[17:14] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: I was thinking about mentioning that  volume  meter thing to him, but you did so :)
[17:14] <Disconnect> anyone using cloud?
[17:14] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: as in Ubuntu One?
[17:14] <xNinja> hello...i am trying to install thc-vlogger on my ubuntu 8.04 but using ./configure i got error...
[17:14]  * Disconnect is having issues building images because eucalyptus seems to be buggy as hell :(
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: no guess not then
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb, ZykoticK9, goruka - thanks. I'll stick to not removing it, then. Any tips as to how to fix it? :)
[17:15] <jay_> gee i thought i had issues...lol
[17:15] <sebsebseb> jenda: already gave you something you can try for FLash
[17:15] <Disconnect> sebsebseb: yah. store image works. vmbuilder image comes up and promptly shuts down with http://pastebin.ca/1759132
[17:15] <sebsebseb> jenda: try in another browser
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Disconnect: oh it is Ubuntu One, ok I don't use it myself, and there is a specific channel for it
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb: right, saw that
[17:15] <pif> when I try "sudo <command>" it complains I am not in the sudoers file...
[17:15] <sebsebseb> !one
[17:15] <jenda> sebsebseb: the same problem occurs with VLC and Fallout 2 in wine, though, so I don't think it's flash related.
[17:16] <codise> pulseaudio is also overly CPU consuming on netbooks with atom-processors.
[17:16] <jenda> sebsebseb: although you're right that adobe flash does cause issues of its own :)
[17:16] <jay_> ummm....question???
[17:16] <sebsebseb> jenda: well I guess there's a way to disable pulseaudio in Ubuntu some how
[17:16] <guntbert> pif: only the first user is in the sudoers file per default
[17:17] <goruka> sebsebseb, i tried, everything breaks in 9.10 so i'm stuck with it and all its bugs too
[17:17] <pif> but there is only one user
[17:17] <NickWebHA> I just reinstall Ubuntu from the netinstall (as I have done several times on this machine) but this time the audio application on the top bar does not see any audio hardware.
[17:17] <ZykoticK9> pif, in a terminal type "groups" and verify that your user is in the admin group
[17:17] <goruka> sebsebseb, thanks to pulseaudio i'm using windows7 a lot mor recently
[17:17] <jenda> sebsebseb: I suppose I'll go with ZykoticK9 's suggestions if nothing else works.
[17:18] <NickWebHA> I tried adding lines to alsa-base.conf but no go.
[17:18] <usr13> CAPcap: Have you installed any new applications or upgraded to new version of Firefox or changed something that might have some impact on your ability to use Firefox to watch cnn videos (during the time frame in which you are no longer able to view cnn videos)?
[17:18] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, I think i found an easier explanation, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351647 although, i cannot find 915resolution
[17:18] <pif> ZykoticK9: in the 'adm' group (using lucid)
[17:18] <Roasted> people are still having issues with pulse audio? O.o
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> pif, if you're using lucid repost in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <pif> ok
[17:19] <CAPcap> usr13 i CAN view CNN and no i installed ubuntu havent touched firefox upgrade or plugins aside from installing flash
[17:19] <ZykoticK9> pif, FYI adm is NOT the same as admin
[17:19] <objorn> i have a problem, when i mount my external hard drive, i'm told that it's read only, even if i do 'gksudo nautilus' i'm not able to drop files into it
[17:19] <objorn> what do i need to do?
[17:19] <karikari> :o
[17:19] <pc_magas> Hello
[17:19] <fabiosl> :D
[17:19] <jay_> hi pc
[17:19] <Django1> CAPcap, are you running 64bit?
[17:19] <CAPcap> usr13 as ive said i can watch most things flash appears to be working. its NBC video that doesnt work
[17:20] <CAPcap> Django1 No
[17:20] <kinja-sheep> kyle6513: If you can, try use xrandr to set resolutions.
[17:20] <quarkup> hey there. how many seconds do ubuntu to start up ? (i mean, the time from pressing the button to be able to launch an application)
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: oh no!
[17:20] <usr13> CAPcap:  You CAN view CNN videos? ... you are confusing me...
[17:20] <pc_magas> May ask sth?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: what why?
[17:20] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, yeah i have, keeps telling me that the resolution is not found, even though its there plain as day
[17:20] <quarkup> *how many seconds does need for ubuntu to startup ?
[17:20] <usr13> CAPcap: What flash player do you have installed?
[17:20] <sebsebseb> goruka: oh he I read wrong, I thought you put thanks to me :D
[17:20] <CAPcap> usr13 the issue has been about nbc video you asked me to test on cnn and i told u it works
[17:20] <gkahla> anyone know how to make gstreamer write id3v2 tags instead of v1?
[17:21] <Django1> CAPcap: i've tried to watch the same video under windows and it works, whereas it does not under ubuntu
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> quarkup, that question is going to be different for everyone!
[17:21] <cweilem> quarkup:  depends on your setup and what's set to run at boot...  My machine can be up and running in under 2 minutes
[17:21] <usr13> CAPcap: Oh sorry nbc videos is what you are having problems with...  I thought it was cnn.
[17:21] <usr13> sorry.
[17:21] <objorn> how do you enable the disk to be writeable?
[17:21] <objorn> !write
[17:21] <ZykoticK9> usr13, have YOU tried clicking on Magnum PI on the NBC site?  i doubt it works for you either (maybe)
[17:21] <xNinja> hello...i am trying to install thc-vlogger on my ubuntu 8.04 but using ./configure i got error... here: http://pastie.org/786729
[17:22] <usr13> CAPcap:  Could you sent a link to a video you can NOT view?
[17:22] <quarkup> i was looking for some info to know the major differences there are from the current release and the last release i used up to 2 years ago
[17:22] <pc_magas> Were can i find an e-shop that sels laptops with Linux pre-installed?
[17:22] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Send a link.
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> usr13, try http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/magnum-pi/video/episodes/#vid=1164447
[17:22] <CAPcap> http://www.nbc.com/chuck/video/episodes/#vid=1191926
[17:22] <pc_magas> ubuntu
[17:22] <dunc> pc_magas, dell do them
[17:23] <pc_magas> But I'm in if i find a dell may i buy it in Ubuntu
[17:23] <cweilem> quarkup:  still dependent on hardware
[17:23] <Myrtti> objorn: it might have been mounted readonly, you could check by typing "mount" in console
[17:23] <quarkup> cweilem: im using a pentium-m
[17:23] <dunc> pc_magas, i've had 2 netbooks from dell, both bought with ubuntu on them
[17:23] <gkahla> pc_magas- http://system76.com/index.php
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- are you in the UK?
[17:24] <pc_magas> No I'm from Greece
[17:24] <quarkup> 1.73GHz and 2 GRam
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- I've also purchased several machines from Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed. all very nice machines
[17:24] <quarkup> i get something as fast as 18~20 seconds on archlinux using KDE
[17:24] <gkahla> pc_magas- http://linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/#pidR26881
[17:24] <trism> CAPcap: if it is just nbc's site that is the problem, you should be able to watch the nbc shows on hulu instead, it works fine on ubuntu (if you live in the US anyway)
[17:25] <_raven> need a tool to record simply internal WEBCAM and MICROPHON - any ideas?
[17:25] <pc_magas> As for me for my 3g connection i was given also a dell inspiron mini with Windows Xp but i installled Ubuntu
[17:25] <pc_magas> Manually
[17:25] <quarkup> if dont know if there are many major changes in the last 4 releases (6 months each). about speed, performance, etc..
[17:25] <cweilem> quarkup:  okay, with an auto login, it's safe to assume that you could be up and running an app in under 60 seconds, but that's still simply an assumption
[17:26] <CAPcap> trism ok but some people can watch... so should i be able to make it work somehow? if now i can use hulu i suppose... i hate hulu but whatever
[17:26] <quarkup> ok ok
[17:26] <[criipt]> Failed to fetch http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop-data_2.28.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[17:26] <usr13> ZykoticK9: I just get the NBC peacock from: http://www.nbc.com/classic-tv/magnum-pi/video/episodes/
[17:26] <pc_magas> But Also the Greek minister of education Gives Us 400 euros for byinng A laptop
[17:26] <ZykoticK9> usr13, ya, we all do!
[17:26] <[criipt]> How could I fix that?
[17:26] <CAPcap> anyone kno how to install the flash player for internet explorer in wine?
[17:26] <quarkup> i guess arch fits nicer on my machine :D
[17:26] <tlir> my machine just got freezed and last thing in syslog was " Bad page state in process 'mysqld' page:c169a320 flags:0x40000040 mapping:00000000 mapcount:17 count:0"  described more elaborately here: http://pastebin.ca/1759148 - it is running 8.04.2 with kernel 2.6.24-23-server
[17:27] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: why do you want to do that?  also IE under Wine should only really be used for web developers that need to test their site in IE
[17:27] <dunc> quarkup, how many times a day are you planning on booting your machine?
[17:27] <quarkup> well up to 2/3
[17:28] <tlir> according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676 it seems to be a kernel error
[17:28] <CAPcap> sebsebseb, i want to see if it will play nbc video =P i can install an old verison of flash player from a disk i have because i do web design but id still need to update it
[17:28] <quarkup> just to know how is it going.. i would like to have another install of ubuntu
[17:28] <quarkup> but im running out of space
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: have you tried Adobe Flash in another browser?
[17:28] <quarkup> and i dont know how fast is it going now
[17:28] <pc_magas> Test vm
[17:28] <CAPcap> sebsebseb yes
[17:28] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Ok well let me go to a MS Windows box and see if I can tell what is supposed to happen.  I'll be back in a little bit.
[17:28] <dunc> 2 or 3 times a day though, does it actually matter if it takes an extra 30s?
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: I mean from the Ubuntu repo
[17:28] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: epiphany or galeon or both
[17:28] <quarkup> VM is slower than the real machine
[17:29] <Django1> nbc doesn't work in Opera either
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[17:29] <CAPcap> sebsebseb idk
[17:29] <quarkup> im runing a old pentium-m (no dual core)
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> usr13, it's CAPcap that's trying to get it working
[17:29] <quarkup> it has 5+ years
[17:29] <quarkup> and its fast fast on my kernel
[17:29] <dunc> you've wasted a good few boots already in the time we've been talking about it is my point
[17:29] <dunc> :)
[17:29] <quarkup> :D
[17:29] <fabiotheape> how do i found out what kind of VGA I have?
[17:29] <quarkup> xD
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: if you have Flash issues with Ubuntu's  Firefox,  try in another browser that uses the same Flash
[17:29] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: I just told you about two that do
[17:29] <LFC_fan|ZNC> Where are empathy's user configuration files stored?
[17:30] <jay_> i have a dell dimension 2400 with an intel card that freezes.....82845g. any ideas how to roll back the driver to an i810 instead of karmics i915?
[17:30] <LFC_fan|ZNC> ~/.empathy ?
[17:30] <quarkup> fabiotheape: lspci | grep VGA
[17:30] <CAPcap> sebsebseb well im installing what u told me to
[17:30] <[criipt]> Anyone ?
[17:30] <fabiotheape> thank you quarkup
[17:30] <pif> how do I prevent the password prompt after waking up?
[17:30] <fabiotheape> nice, rage 128 Pro...
[17:31] <quarkup> [criipt]: maybe you should refresh your apt cache
[17:31] <sebsebseb> !browsers | CAPcap
[17:31] <quarkup> update
[17:31] <quarkup> like
[17:31] <quarkup> sudo aptitude update
[17:31] <tlir> what is the most recent/stable kernel available for 8.04.2 in the repos?
[17:31] <[criipt]> quarkup, did that, same thing =(
[17:31] <sebsebseb> tlir: uhmm you should get whatever it is as an update, if you don't already have it
[17:32] <noXandOs> Hey guys, I'm looking for something to do. I'm not really having trouble with any hardware so... I need to be busy learning.. What should I do?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> !details | noXandOs
[17:32] <fabiotheape> next task, install network printer...
[17:32] <hiexpo> raed read read
[17:32] <Guest78459> slaut
[17:32] <fabiotheape> noXandOs, learn a programming language?
[17:32] <usr13> ZykoticK9: CAPcap Doing some research on the NBC video issue  and ran across this:  http://ostatic.com/blog/linux-users-on-nbcs-olympics-videos-we-dont-get-no-respect  (I know it is from a few months ago, may or may not still be relevant to our situation.)
[17:32] <CAPcap> sebsebseb epiphany doesnt even get as far as firefox.
[17:32] <Guest78459> salut
[17:32] <quarkup> [criipt]: sudo aptitude clean
[17:33] <sebsebseb> !fr |  Guest78459
[17:33] <quarkup> then sudo aptitude update
[17:33] <tlir> sebsebseb: apt-get upgrade doesn't recommend to upgrade the kernel
[17:33] <noXandOs> I know a little programming
[17:33] <fabiotheape> noXandOs, learn some more
[17:33] <Clint_> hi... how do i add a screen resolution on ubuntu 9.10 because the max i can only get is 1280x800... can anyone please help
[17:33] <sebsebseb> tlir: ok why do you want later kernel?]
[17:33] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Clint_: make sure your graphics card driver is installed, if there is one to install
[17:33] <Geo> kk .. nan etti
[17:33] <thefirstdude> why no package SVN??
[17:33] <Geo> !!
[17:33] <tlir> sebsebseb: read my previous post?
[17:33] <fabiotheape> what do i want to do with grub? (updating)
[17:33] <Geo> SVN or  GIT?
[17:33] <quarkup> [criipt]: maybe your server is not synchronized or has downloaded that package with errors and therefore the md5sum does not match
[17:33] <Geo> GIT alle latestt?
[17:34] <kyle6513> Clint_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Dynamically%20testing%20different%20resolutions
[17:34] <Clint_> howdo i find tht out
[17:34] <hiexpo> clint did you update your drivers
[17:34] <sebsebseb> tlir: I didn't see you give a reason for wanting a later kernel
[17:34] <noXandOs> well i do have this dusty computer over here in the corner
[17:34] <tlir> sebsebseb: my machine just got freezed and last thing in syslog was " Bad page state in process 'mysqld' page:c169a320 flags:0x40000040 mapping:00000000 mapcount:17 count:0"  described more elaborately here: http://pastebin.ca/1759148 - it is running 8.04.2 with kernel 2.6.24-23-server. according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676 it seems to be a kernel error
[17:34] <Geo> pathukke type cheyyada... onnu vaayikatte
[17:34] <fabiotheape> keep local version, install new version??
[17:34] <noXandOs> Hrmm
[17:34] <[criipt]> quarkup, Same again.
[17:34] <Clint_> cheers i takea look @ tht
[17:34] <sebsebseb> tlir: oh well it seems to be something to do with mysql
[17:34] <thefirstdude> what to install to get SVN
[17:34] <Geo> wats hapening here?
[17:34] <[criipt]> Even tried fix-missing quake_guy
[17:34] <[criipt]> quarkup, ^
[17:34] <arunb> Geo: which language??
[17:34] <noXandOs> brb
[17:34] <Geo> SVN repositry?
[17:34] <trism> thefirstdude: sudo apt-get install subversion
[17:35] <tlir> sebsebseb: either that or the kernel :)
[17:35] <kyle6513> kinja-sheep, what do you make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:35] <Geo> arun:chinese
[17:35] <CAPcap> usr13 what total bullsh*t
[17:35] <sebsebseb> tlir: there is bound to be a ppa on launchpad for a later kernel for 8.04, however it's ueasuly best for people to stay with the standard kernels.   plus since ppa's aren't fully  supported shoudn't get loads of them, and they might cause issues when you upgrade Ubuntu
[17:35] <Geo> koooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi
[17:35] <Geo> nirthiyo?
[17:35] <Geo> continue
[17:36] <Geo> !!
[17:36] <CAPcap> usr13 hulu for me i guess unless i can figure out how to get flash for Wine iexplore
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: try Galeon now
[17:36] <Geo> Galeon?
[17:36] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap, If the situations described in the above article is still relevant today, I imagine a big stink is in store.  There is going to be a lot of rivalry in the not too distant future as well.
[17:36] <CAPcap> sebsebseb wanna give me the command for that?
[17:36] <hadean> hey guys
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: sudo apt-get install galeon
[17:36] <CAPcap> thanks
[17:36] <Geo> hadean: hello..
[17:36] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: np
[17:37] <usr13> CAPcap: hulu works for you?
[17:37] <hadean> i touched the usbcable of my external hdd and it disappeared, and even after re-plugging it wont appear...
[17:37] <tlir> sebsebseb: I'm currently running 2.6.24-23. I'm seeing that there's linux-image-2.6.24-26-server available in apt-get search results
[17:37] <hadean> what job can i restart?
[17:37] <Geo> no hulu don't work
[17:37] <hadean> to get her to work
[17:37] <hadean> Geo: hi
[17:37] <sebsebseb> tlir: you got the 8.04 server version?
[17:37] <usr13> sebsebseb: geleon?  is that a video player?
[17:37] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:37] <sebsebseb> usr13: no browser
[17:37] <Geo> hadean: wer r u frm?
[17:37] <sebsebseb> !browsers | usr13
[17:37] <hadean> ger
[17:37] <perlsyntax> Is the radeon hd2300 support by ubuntu?
[17:37] <tlir> sebsebseb: yes I'm running 8.04.2
[17:37] <Geo> yes
[17:37] <usr13> sebsebseb: Does it work to play nbc videos?
[17:37] <CAPcap> Does Google Chrome work on linux?
[17:37] <Geo> I guss
[17:38] <perlsyntax> i hope it is
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, yes
[17:38] <Geo> chromium
[17:38] <sebsebseb> usr13: oh it's not mentioned in the factoid
[17:38] <sebsebseb> !info galeon
[17:38] <sebsebseb> for advanced users? what the?
[17:38] <CAPcap> suweet
[17:38] <Geo> chrom is called chromium!!
[17:38] <sebsebseb> for advanced users, no it's not, it's for anyone that wants to use it
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> CAPcap, there is also a Google Chome Beta direct from google (which includes a repo to update itself), or the opensource Chromium
[17:38] <Geo> da pulle ninte adutta paranje
[17:38] <hadean> i touched the usbcable of my external hdd and it disappeared, and even after re-plugging it wont appear... what job can i restart to try to get it to run again? restarted GDM and it didnt help
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> Geo, chrome and chromium NOT the same things!
[17:38] <sebsebseb> !troll | Geo
[17:38] <Geo> aa.... poda patti
[17:39] <tlir> sebsebseb: seems that 2.6.24-26-server is available for install
[17:39] <kyle6513> what does anyone make of this?? http://pastebin.com/d671b0dff its part of my xorg.conf file
[17:39] <sebsebseb> ok probably not a troll really
[17:39] <thefirstdude> the version of blender I just got 2.48a is not working on ubuntu 9.04
[17:40] <sebsebseb> tlir: from the repo?
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: yeah, it's available
[17:40] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, that's pretty standard, it's the available color depths
[17:40] <sebsebseb> install it then if you want
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: and the bug isn't related to mysql, it's related to the kernel.
[17:40] <thefirstdude> the top and bottom of the editing window is like all white and blurs/deformed
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: all google results I'm getting about this bug are all showing up 8.04.2 system
[17:40] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, oh okay thanks, if I add a custom resolution, where would that sit?
[17:40] <dunc> kyle6513, it does look like part of an xorg.conf file yes
[17:40] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[17:40] <CAPcap> sebsebseb galeon wont play either. im just going to use hulu i guess :(
[17:40] <sebsebseb> tlir: get all your updates 8.04.4 or something it is now the latest
[17:40] <tlir> sebsebseb: here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/328186 and here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235676
[17:41] <hadean> can someone tell me wich daemon is responsible for usbstuff or hard disk mounting?
[17:41] <tlir> sebsebseb: what would be the standard way of getting all updates? apt-get upgrade ?
[17:41] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap,  Does hulu work?
[17:41] <ZykoticK9> usr13, i'm in Canada, so NO for me
[17:41] <trism> usr13: hulu works fine on ubuntu
[17:41] <sebsebseb> CAPcap: if you want to do a Windows browser under Wine, well FIrefox :)  and maybe change the user agent so it says Linux rather than Windows, so you don't help with Windows browser market share :D
[17:41] <usr13> ZykoticK9, CAPcap,  Does hulu play NBC videos?
[17:41] <trism> usr13: assuming you're in the united states
[17:42] <daijoubu> How to autoload modprobe modules? I have compiled modules for my DVB card but they don't autoload, and after reboot they are not loaded, can someone tell me how to make them autoload ?
[17:42] <trism> usr13: it should have most of nbc's videos (considering nbc owns hulu)
[17:42] <[criipt]> quarkup, Im guessing its a problem with the server. Ill just wait it out.
[17:42] <CAPcap> usr13: sure does!
[17:42] <hadean> this is not a help in any ways
[17:42] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/359641/ as an example
[17:42] <cdi> has anyone here used avidemux to add subtitles to a movie?
[17:42] <_raven> need a tool to record simply internal WEBCAM and MICROPHON - any ideas?
[17:42] <erUSUL> daijoubu: add their names to /etc/modules
[17:43] <_raven> need a simple NETWORK DATA COUNTER (perhaps as panel-plugin)
[17:43] <erUSUL> daijoubu: althougt maybe you only need to run « sudo depmod -a »
[17:43] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, will this force X11 to allow me to change to this resolution? since xrandr has decided to be er, whats the word I'm looking for...
[17:43] <ZykoticK9> _raven, re-webcam have you tried cheese?
[17:43] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, resistant of sorts...
[17:43] <daijoubu> erUSUL thank you :) will try both
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> kyle6513, it really depends on your graphics card / driver --- if you aren't using Nvidia I'm no help
[17:44] <kyle6513> _raven, try conky!
[17:44] <kyle6513> ZykoticK9, ah okay, intel T.T
[17:44] <fosa> i'm on 8.10 and would like to upgrade
[17:44] <localh0st> anybody know how could i copy files from my win7 folder called as "appdata/roaming" - i think its blocked for read, because when i'm in i cant see anything (no files)
[17:44] <fosa> is clicking the "upgrade" button in my update manager a bad idea?
[17:44] <CAPcap> usr13 yes ut does
[17:44] <CAPcap> it*
[17:45] <trism> _raven: the system monitor applet shows a nice graph of network activity (if you enable it in the properties)
[17:46] <phreestyle-work> I am having a problem with DBus preventing privileged applications from running. Can someone help me out? I posted full details about the problems in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386039
[17:46] <_raven> trism, yes i have it already installed but i need an addition about some time - 30 days in this case - of the data i've downloaded
[17:47] <dani> hi
[17:47] <trism> _raven: ahh sorry, no idea then
[17:47] <dani> is someone here?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> fosa: may as well stay on 8.10 for now or upgrade to 9.04
[17:47] <fosa> 9.10 isn't worth it?
[17:47] <goruka> ok another bug nvidia driver doesn't load by default
[17:48] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[17:48] <arunb> my vlc is hanging frequently in karmic
[17:48] <sebsebseb> fosa: 9.04 to 9.10 upgrades can go wrong, and have done on quite a lot of people.  and there isn't anything properly worth it in 9.10
[17:48] <goruka> how can ubutu 9.10 be _so_ plagued with bugs?
[17:48] <sebsebseb> fosa: if got a slightly older version already on there
[17:48] <arunb> any idea abt it?
[17:49] <sebsebseb> fosa: plus on 9.04 upgrade,  no Grub 2 and  those Ext3 9.04 installs won't get converted to Ext4,  but those two features aren't really needed anyway
[17:50] <inManix> yo
[17:50] <Nameless_au> when did ext4 come into use?
[17:50] <Nameless_au> 9.10?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> fosa: there is a way to get Grub 2 after a 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade,  and a way to convert Ext3 to Ext4, but  it seems that really to get the proper thing a new partition would have to be made
[17:50] <sebsebseb> Nameless_au: it's optional for 9.04, just not perfectly stable  their, since the kernel 9.04 uses and such
[17:50] <goruka> This is totally awesome, i have _2 bugs_ prevending me from logging into my ubuntu
[17:51] <goruka> both unrelated,but avoiding me to log in
[17:51] <fosa> sebsebseb, im not sure if im using grub2 or not.. i'm dual booting windows
[17:51] <Nameless_au> awesome is the word...
[17:51] <sebsebseb> fosa: your on 8.10 meaning you have Grub legacy   or if you like Grub 1
[17:51] <Nameless_au> sebsebseb: tnx 4 the info
[17:51] <ae1> \help
[17:51] <gmendoza> goruka: know how to solve it?
[17:51] <inManix> yo sebsebseb, could ya hit me with a PM to get the chat box up, cant do it on web irc lol
[17:51] <sebsebseb> Nameless_au: it's the default file ssytem for clean install of 9.10
[17:51] <sebsebseb> inManix: uh?
[17:52] <Nameless_au> sebsebseb: i'm still on 9.04, so i wouldn't know :/
[17:52] <inManix> trying to open private chat with you
[17:52] <kyle6513> How do I find out the max colour depth my GFX card supports? is 32bit pretty mainstream at the moment?
[17:52] <inManix> but im on the most primative browser ever
[17:52] <sebsebseb> !pm
[17:52] <inManix> im on ubuntu boot cd
[17:52] <inManix> !pm sebsebseb
[17:52] <inManix> fail
[17:52] <devede> hi
[17:52] <Clint_> how do i check if my graphics driver is install correctly on my laptop
[17:52] <inManix> !pm
[17:52] <pif> how do I enable auto login (no password)?
[17:52] <goruka> gmendoza, i don't know.. it's more like 3 bugs ..  networking is super slow on ubuntu (first bug) , so i can't ssh to the machine, and nvidia driver is not loaded on startup (second bug) so X crashes (third bug)
[17:52] <sebsebseb> Clint_: system > administration > hardware drivers ?
[17:53] <kyle6513> inManix, basically, he is telling you to talk in the channel instead of personal message him
[17:53] <Nameless_au> inManix: dont knock the boot cd, it got me out of trouble today :P
[17:53] <sebsebseb> pif: a lot of us woudn't recommend that, for security reasons
[17:53] <inManix> fair enough
[17:53] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, I think it has done alot for all of us, considering its the only way to install ubuntu mostly ;P
[17:53] <sebsebseb> pif: not on Ubuntu right now, but if you look around your menu, you will find the thing that can enable it,  or you probably will anyway.   menu as in  system  and then administaration or preferences
[17:53] <trism> pif: System/Administration/Login Screen
[17:54] <inManix> well i decided to keep my shared media on an external hardrive, and to format as follows: xp 100gb xp, 50gb ubuntu, 90 gb home, rest swap
[17:54] <inManix> does that work for best spendage of 250 gb?
[17:54] <pif> ok, but now it asks a root password
[17:54] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: and the way i got grub working again after installing windows 7 :P
[17:54] <Clint_> i just tried it and its emtpy is tht good
[17:54] <sebsebseb> inManix: even 50GB is  well  rather much for  a Ubuntu / when there's a big seperate home
[17:54] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, Grub2 has been the reason for my nightmares as of late, but, I like the new ability to graphically enhance it ;D
[17:55] <inManix> yeah, well i want a good ubuntu experience, want it as my main OS for work/media/light gaming
[17:55] <amikrop> Hello, what is the best choice for online backup? Maybe something like a version control system?
[17:55] <inManix> xp for everything linux wont run + gaming
[17:55] <eshat> Hi all, i have an alsa problem, when connecting a webcam (with mic) at boot time the intern sound card gets second device, i.e. /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp. Is there a way to switch the order ?
[17:55] <inManix> so how would you best use that space?
[17:55] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: i see - i'm still using grub 1.5 - thanks for the tip tho (mental note to self: stay with 9.04 :P )
[17:55] <kyle6513> inManix, TBH if you are a gaming xp is your best option
[17:55] <sebsebseb> inManix: there are some pretty good native games for Desktop Linux as well :)  plus can get a lot of stuff working quite nicely in Wine, and quite a bit will just work nicely these days
[17:56] <inManix> yeah i know, my gaming demands are high, but i play older games
[17:56] <inManix> im not trying to run cod2 or crysis
[17:56] <inManix> mainly source games and older
[17:56] <quarkup> inManix: try savage2
[17:56] <quarkup> its a fps+rts+mmo game
[17:56] <quarkup> great
[17:56] <sebsebseb> inManix: well older games have more of a chance at working  rather properly in Wine these days, it seems
[17:56] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, Its not SO bad, its just to edit grub theres 5 other files and they have to be compiled as of sorts, its a bit more confusing, but so much better
[17:56] <sebsebseb> !games | inManix
[17:56] <goruka> inManix, get a 360
[17:56] <quarkup> oh its a newer game not a older but its great
[17:56] <r3za>  hi , im using ubuntu karmic and grub 1.5 , now i want to repair gurb with karmic live disk , how can i do that ?
[17:56] <inManix> so what is a decent size for ubuntu partition?
[17:57] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I had half life 2 game running in wine :) just at 12 fps T.T
[17:57] <trism> pif: it shouldn't ever ask you for a root password, it is probably asking for your password to confirm that you should autologin
[17:57] <Nameless_au> a bit off-topic, but is it better to use wine or play a game in a windows VM?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: 10GB
[17:57] <inManix> ill just spend the rest between home and xp
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: as long as you got big seperate /home
[17:57] <inManix> oh yes i will
[17:57] <goruka> guys, ubuntu doesn't work - help
[17:57] <quarkup> inManix: 16G  is recommended and also use symlinks for the musik folder, image folder etc..
[17:57] <sebsebseb> inManix: give it  a little bit more than 10GB if you want, but you will probably find it  doesn't get any where near filling up
[17:57] <quarkup> so you won't need more space to see your images in another partitions
[17:57] <gmendoza> ya know... EA just started releasing a number of games including Need For Speed Undreground for my Palm Pre... which is Linux based.  I'm hoping their efforts could extend to the rest of the Linux platforms one day.  :-)
[17:58] <r3za>  hi , im using ubuntu karmic and grub 1.5 , now i want to repair gurb with karmic live disk , how can i do that ?
[17:58] <kyle6513> gmendoza, really?
[17:58] <luna> ola
[17:58] <gmendoza> yup..
[17:58] <sebsebseb> guntbert: inManix  16GB for a /  when there's a seperate home, nah that's to much
[17:58] <luna> ola
[17:58] <kyle6513> gmendoza, ;D
[17:58] <sebsebseb> !es | luna
[17:58] <luna> hello
[17:58] <quarkup> to create a symlink its just "ln -s <original_folder> shortcut" read the manpages: man ln
[17:58] <inManix> so for a good solid installation with plenty of room
[17:58] <inManix> 12gb?
[17:58] <goruka> ubottu, gracias
[17:58] <sebsebseb> inManix: 12GB / is fine yes
[17:58] <luna> srf
[17:58] <inManix> awesome
[17:58] <sebsebseb> inManix: big seperate /home yep
[17:59] <inManix> one noob question....the values in partition programs
[17:59] <sebsebseb> inManix: and a bit of swap space
[17:59] <inManix> why do they lie
[17:59] <gmendoza> goruka: what version are you running?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> inManix: the partition sizes are done in mb
[17:59] <luna> in spansh please
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, gaming in a VM is close to impossible (terrible performance) - wine is the way to go
[18:00] <fosa> thanks sebsebseb :)
[18:00] <luna> in spanish please
[18:00] <asdshdskjauehjz> hello guys if i start my iptables script i get this"iptables v1.4.2: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/xtables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" can somebody help me pleas
[18:00] <Nameless_au> ZykoticK9: ok, just that every time i've tried to use wine i could never get it working... i was just wondering
[18:00] <luna> no te entiendo
[18:00] <sipior> !es > luna
[18:01] <yucatan> somebody..
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, you might want to try play-on-linux - just a front end for installing/running wine apps (also verify on the wine app db the game/program you are trying)
[18:01] <gmendoza> asdshdskjauehjz: where did you get the script?
[18:01] <inManix> you say 10,000, it sais 9950
[18:01] <inManix> the values are never right, and 15 gig goes missing straight after format
[18:02] <sebsebseb> inManix: oh right that
[18:02] <goruka> gmendoza, networking is unusable, and nvidia driver doesn't load by default (modprobe works, but it wont load it by default)
[18:02] <Nameless_au> ZykoticK9: cool, i'll try out your suggestion (not that i really need to - i have a multiboot system)
[18:02] <Nameless_au> i was just trying it out for the sake of it one day
[18:02] <goruka> gmendoza, which means i can't log in to my computer locally or remotelly
[18:02] <sebsebseb> inManix: so you could have a 250GB hard disk, but a partition program  might say you got like 230GB
[18:02] <sipior> inManix: if you're using an ext filesystem, check out the -m switch to tune2fs to set the reserved blocks percentage to 0.
[18:03] <sebsebseb> sipior: what's that?
[18:03] <inManix> right well im gparting now
[18:03] <gmendoza> goruka: Do you have access to the computer right now?
[18:03] <sipior> sebsebseb: by default (historically), 5% of a filesystem was reserved for the root user only.
[18:03] <inManix> i want a primary ext4 12gb for ubuntu?
[18:04] <sipior> sebsebseb: with modern filesystem sizes, this is obviously no longer appropriate :-)
[18:04] <Nameless_au> sipior: ok, then why does it also give a false value in a windows OS?
[18:04] <Nameless_au> same reason?
[18:04] <sipior> Nameless_au: which false value?
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> Nameless_au, 1 does not equal 1 when you are talking about size in HD or memory
[18:04] <sebsebseb> inManix: yes go with Ext4,  oh and good idea to backup any important data from your hard disk, whatever file system you use, hard disks can go wrong  and sometimes file systems as well
[18:04] <luna> hello
[18:04] <Nameless_au> sipior: well if i have a 10Gb partition, windows will say it's smaller than that
[18:04] <sipior> Nameless_au: probably because there are two definitions of "Gigabyte" (2^30 bytes, and 10^9 bytes)
[18:04] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: it's not a false value, it's just a different way of counting
[18:05] <inManix> sebsebseb: im just running a fresh install of xp
[18:05] <inManix> nothing else has happened
[18:05] <pif> I disables all the lock_ keys from /apps/gnome-power-manager yet I still have a password prompt on resume...
[18:05] <inManix> :)
[18:05] <Nameless_au> ah gotcha
[18:05] <goruka> gmendoza, i can't shell because networking is for a strange reason incredibly slow after the latest update
[18:05] <inManix> so i want primary instead of extended?
[18:05] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: Hard drive makers use SI units (makes HD sizes look larger) and most OSes report the size using conventional power-of-two units
[18:05] <goruka> gmendoza, and nvidia driver module works but does't load on startup, so X crashes
[18:05] <quarkup> hey is picasa open-source ?
[18:05] <Nameless_au> 2^30 would be more appropriate would it not (since we're dealing with binary)?
[18:06] <goruka> gmendoza, maybe i can enter in some sort of safe (nondisplay) mode?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> quarkup: no it's not
[18:06] <quarkup> :s
[18:06] <Slart> quarkup: I don't think so
[18:06] <quarkup> :'(
[18:06] <sipior> Nameless_au: yes, but the "giga" prefix has a certain implication.
[18:06] <quarkup> should be easy to port it to linux :s
[18:06] <quarkup> anyway
[18:06] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: the power-of-two units should be called  "MiB" "GiB" etc.
[18:06] <yucatan> hello guys if i start my iptables script i get this"iptables v1.4.2: Couldn't load match `layer7':/lib/xtables/libipt_layer7.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" can somebody help me pleas
[18:06] <sebsebseb> quarkup: there already is a version, however it needs their special version of Wine, if I remember correctly
[18:06] <kyle6513> anyone who can help me in getting a custom resolution to display?
[18:06] <Gadget3000> quarkup: picasa is available for linux already
[18:07] <gmendoza> goruka: I'm going to PM you if you dont mind... better to keep track...
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> quarkup, although picasa is not opensource, there is already a linux version (it uses wine)
[18:07] <goruka> gmendoza, sure
[18:07] <Gadget3000> quarkup: http://picasa.google.co.uk/linux/
[18:07] <inManix> what is the difference between a primary and an extended partition?
[18:07] <quarkup> hey
[18:07] <Nameless_au> Chousuke: how would that be read out aloud? still 'megabyte', 'gigabyte'...?
[18:07] <quarkup> it is not linux native. it has not been ported to linux
[18:07] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: Binary megabyte I guess
[18:07] <quarkup> just has the wine bundled xD
[18:07] <sebsebseb> inManix: an extended will hold other partitions inside it,  you need that if you got  I think it's more than four partitions
[18:08] <Chousuke> Nameless_au: but most people would just say megabyte :P
[18:08] <quarkup> i was talking about the port
[18:08] <quarkup>  :D
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> inManix, most BIOSs can only recognize 4 primary partitions, so extended partitions are used to get past the 4 partition limit
[18:08] <antonio_> hello everybody! does anyone know where do i have to put a script in order to make it run on every startup^
[18:08] <inManix> primary it is then
[18:08] <antonio_> ?
[18:08] <Chousuke> inManix: primary/logical makes no difference to Linux, really.
[18:08] <Nameless_au> Chousuke: i've seen MiB in text before, thought it was either a typo or some weird european convention lol... thanks !
[18:08] <sipior> Nameless_au: technically, "mebibyte" and "gibibyte", i believe. i think there's a reason they haven't caught on wildly...
[18:08] <inManix> sebsebseb: so which partitions do i need made prior to installation? im doing 100gig xp NTFS, 100gig for /home ext4, 12gig ext4 for ubuntu
[18:08] <inManix> do i need to make swap partition now?
[18:09] <Nameless_au> sipior:  now that is interesting!
[18:09] <kyle6513> sipior, i always thought it meant gigabit then i learnt there was a difference between Gb and GB
[18:09] <Chousuke> inManix: You can make a swap partition but if you forget it you can always use a swap file.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> inManix: is SWAP needed or not is one question, another is how big should it be.   it depends on RAM, and if people want to hibernate and such
[18:10] <inManix> well im on 2gig ram and looking to do 'some' gaming
[18:10] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: i doubt most ppl know there is a difference b/n Gb and GB
[18:10] <inManix> some people say none, some say 4gig...
[18:10] <sebsebseb> inManix: 4GB SWAP partition, but you probably don't really need it
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: are you ever going to hibernate the system?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> inManix: unless your going to hibernate of course
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: if not, make it half a GB :P
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: you can always extend it later
[18:10] <Chousuke> inManix: by adding swap files
[18:10] <inManix> i dont like how 'to hibernate or not to hibernate' is such a decision
[18:10] <inManix> its scary
[18:10] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, yeah >.< but one is just bandwidth where one is size so i guess not many would need it, but these two terms do decieve you when you go buy an internet connection
[18:11] <inManix> lets just assume im not going to hibernate
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: well, I think that's not a problem either. You should be able to hibernate to swap files
[18:11] <inManix> how much i need? 500mb is optimum?
[18:11] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: indeed
[18:11] <kyle6513> inManix, hibernate is mostly just for laptops
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: you can always add more if you run out :)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:11] <Nameless_au> so mb = millibit? :P
[18:11] <pdlnhrd> what would be  a reason packages are held back during an upgrade....  i just tried to upgrade and my xorg is broke now
[18:11] <Nameless_au> ignore that
[18:11] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, xD
[18:11] <inManix> sure, 500 partition being made lol
[18:11] <Chousuke> inManix: though if you go and fill half a gigabyte of swap on a desktop... you need to buy more RAM
[18:12] <kyle6513> pdlnhrd, T.T
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> pdlnhrd: the package is made but the deps it needs are not satisfiable yet
[18:12] <rek> ActionParsnip: i'm not able to fix some problems ..i'll change distribution so...are there any config file i can save? mail... msn ecc ?
[18:12] <Chousuke> inManix: because if you really are actively swapping to that half a gigabyte, performance will be horrible.
[18:12] <tuv0k> anyone else notice using a laptop after resume with a ath5k driver for atheros card you have no connection using wicd, and network-manager can't keep a connection for more than 1miunte, which is why I'm using wicd to begin with?
[18:13] <pdlnhrd> ActionParsnip: is there a way to rescue my xserver ?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rek: most are the hidden folders in $HOME but some files in /etc are useful
[18:13] <rek> ActionParsnip: i know... like?
[18:13] <Chousuke> inManix: on modern systems with gigabytes of RAM, swap is mostly there to prevent the kernel from freaking out in case you happen to temporarily run out of memory
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> pdlhrd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    may help
[18:13] <rek> ActionParsnip:  mutt.rc then?
[18:13] <inManix> cool cool
[18:14] <inManix> so when i type in 100,000mb and it says 97.65 gib, just ignore it
[18:14] <rek> cool.. pool going to the pool is cool
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> rek: smb.conf hosts dnsmasq.conf files like that. i dont know your system so cannot speculate
[18:14] <pdlnhrd> ActionParsnip: thank you
[18:14] <yucatan> why i cant get in #debian and #linux?
[18:14] <hiexpo> tuvok use thestandard network manager its better for those cards
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> rek: anything you think you need, grab it. you should have them backed up anyway
[18:14] <rek> ActionParsnip: i have mostly audio problems
[18:15] <kyle6513> inManix, that is if you are attempting to make a 100gb patition then yes, you see, we cannot have exactly 100gb due to the way computers work
[18:15] <NickWebHA> exit
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> rek: got an audigy sound card by any chance?
[18:16] <inManix> the final useless question
[18:16] <gharz> guys, i've installed ubuntu using wubi... having problem with grub when i restart after updating the kernel... i'm reading a post ... how do i know which /dev/sdXY  (parition) should i choose?
[18:16] <rek> ActionParsnip:  what? asus mobo
[18:16] <inManix> what do people label partitions?
[18:16] <inManix> :D
[18:16] <kyle6513> inManix, / for root, swap for swap and /home for home
[18:16] <rek> ActionParsnip: i've also problems with my nvidia gts 2 my sys crashes.... the graphic and i need to reset
[18:17] <kyle6513> inManix, atleast, thats the MOUNT point >.<
[18:17] <rek> sometimes ActionParsnip mp3s don't work or flash player doesn't work i'm sad
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> inmanix: i rarely do. if i do its what the partition stores for me but you can call it whatever you want
[18:17] <kyle6513> is it possible to make a button turn the backlight off on my laptops screen, like in windows? at the moment it just turns all colours off
[18:17] <Nameless_au> im glad i didnt upgrade to 9.10
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> rek: i see
[18:18] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, why?
[18:18] <clever> kyle6513: try 'sleep 5;xset dpms force off'
[18:18] <Nameless_au> kyle6513: cos it took me long enough to get this running how i wanted and fixing/working around all the bugs
[18:18] <kyle6513> clever, how would i bind that to a key
[18:18] <gharz> whenever i try to boot... i'm getting a kernel panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block(8,1)... anyone?
[18:18] <inManix> 12gb /, 100gb /home, 500mb swap (all ext4), 125gb ntfs windows! finally
[18:18] <inManix> off i go
[18:18] <kyle6513> Nameless_au, ah i see
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> rek: try jaunty instead. its more mature
[18:19] <clever> kyle6513: make a button for it on gnome-panel and maybe bind a key to it from there
[18:19] <Nameless_au> sounds like 9.10 is very buggy
[18:19] <rek> ActionParsnip:  mature? we like teens
[18:19] <max_> lol
[18:19] <kyle6513> clever, ah okay ^-^
[18:19] <rek> lol
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> rek: its been around longer
[18:19] <CloneDeath> Hello?
[18:19] <cxo> I've got a message saying that one of my disks has too many bad sectors. I have multiple drives of the same make and model, How do i identify which one has the error?
[18:19] <max_> your resistance only makes my penis harder
[18:19] <kyle6513> clever, when i move my mouse will i get my screen back? doesnt seem to be anything there to say if i move my mouse or anything that it should start back up again
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> !hi | clonedeath
[18:20] <rek> ActionParsnip: what? in 9.10 i cant use nvidia-glx ! so i must keep hardy heron
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: moving the mouse or touching any key will wake it back up
[18:20] <CloneDeath> Same, I get like over 65K bad sectors
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> cxo: boot to livecd and fsck the disks
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: including just letting go of the mouse after you click the button
[18:20] <kyle6513> clever, is this just putting the laptop into sleep?
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: the whole system stays on, it just turns the video off
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> rek: no, you use nvidia-glx-185
[18:20] <x-frog> clear
[18:20] <kyle6513> clever, ah, exactly what i wanted, this goes in terminal no?
[18:20] <rek> ActionParsnip: what was your term.... blood ... i mean when u said about electronics
[18:20] <clever> kyle6513: yep
[18:21] <kyle6513> clever, alright thanks :)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rek: bleeding edge. it was you whom mentioned electronics
[18:21] <rek> ActionParsnip: nvidia-glx-185 does not work no prop. driv in use that's why i downgraded to 8.10
[18:21] <x-frog> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10...im currently in term mode i cant start x...is there a way to load the nvidia driver from the terminal
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> rek: tried the nvidia ppa? you can try the 195 driver
[18:22] <rek> ActionParsnip: yeah bleeding edge's cool but also retro computers.... i have some c64. do you?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> x-frog: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[18:22] <rek> ActionParsnip:  what's ppa
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> rek: c64 is offtopic here
[18:22] <rek> dunno
[18:22] <Matisse> hi
[18:22] <x-frog> ty ty..ill try that
[18:22] <rek> c64 is cool here
[18:22] <x-frog> exit
[18:23] <phobos_> hi all
[18:23] <Nameless_au> c64 is NEVER off-topic!
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> rek: not on this channel
[18:23] <Nameless_au> lol
[18:23] <rek> lol, it's a little OT
[18:23] <JDahl> I configured dual monitors in twinview with nvidia-settings and I saved the configuration to /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  but everytime I reboot, only one monitor is active and I have to run nvidia-settings.  How can I avoid that?
[18:23] <rek> ActionParsnip: guntbrt would get angry isn't it?
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> JDahl, are you running "gksu nvidia-settings" and are you sure you aren't getting an error when you save?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> rek: i'm keeping chat to the channel guidelines
[18:24] <rek> ActionParsnip: sometimes my mp3 don't work and the flsh doesn't work too what can i do?
[18:24] <phobos_> plz which is the port for no-ip because i have modify my firewall and i doesn't work (sorry for my bad english)
[18:25] <JDahl> ZykoticK9, I run sudo nvidia-settings,  I don't get any errors,  and I even removed the old xorg.conf to make sure that only a completely fresh version is installed.
[18:25] <phobos_> he*
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> rek: reinstall the flash plugin and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:25] <m0ar> I want to add 'irssi -! -c im.bitlbee.org' to autostart, but how to format that for Startup Applications?
[18:25] <azo> Re
[18:25] <Umbongiovanni> Hi
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> jdahl: sudo is not for gui apps
[18:25] <Umbongiovanni> Need some help
[18:25] <sebsebseb> !ask | Umbongiovanni
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> !ask | umbongolovanni
[18:26] <kyle6513> clever, how would I assign a hotkey?
[18:26] <clever> kyle6513: not sure
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[18:26] <kyle6513> clever, okay
[18:26] <Umbongiovanni> I'm doing a backup of my hardy heron, I formated the hard drive disk.
[18:26] <clever> kyle6513: try the link ActionParsnip just brought up
[18:27] <kyle6513> clever, will do
[18:27] <Umbongiovanni> I want to know if I can use the same home of hardy in a jaunty distribution
[18:27] <inManix> Hey guys, one quick question, iv made the 12gig ext4 partition with gparted, iv chosen it about to install to it, does it need to be formatted?
[18:27] <rek> ActionParsnip: why does the automount work only with gnome?
[18:27] <Plouj> hi
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> umbongiovanni: sure you can
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> rek: no idea. i dont use it
[18:27] <sebsebseb> inManix: well it's a new partition, a blank one,  but sure you can do the tick on format
[18:27] <rek> ActionParsnip: is i sptitude get kde   what will i get 4 ?
[18:28] <Slart> Umbongiovanni: that might depend on the apps you have installed.. I'm not sure if Gnome has updated it's config files between the versions.. things might end up being weird
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: config problems? where?
[18:28] <Plouj> is there an automatic random wallpaper changer in the Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS repositories?
[18:28] <inManix> sebsebseb: if it would let me..
[18:28] <rek> ciao giovanni
[18:28] <jiohdi> inManix: if its ext4 then it is already formatted
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: well yes, but you might want to do your home in Ext4 since that's the default file system  for 9.10. which also means you might want to put 9.10 on instead of 9.04
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rek: that wasnt english
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: are you like guntbert
[18:28] <Umbongiovanni> ciao rek
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: 9.04 is optional in 9.04 just not properly stable since the kernel and such
[18:28] <Slart> Plouj: some people use "feh" to change wallpapers .. in cron, I think
[18:28] <inManix> well i did it all with gparted, resized my initial hard drive, set to ext4, rebooted
[18:28] <sebsebseb> uh that was meant to be Ext4 is optional in 9.04....
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rek: in what way?
[18:28] <inManix> it wont let me tick format so ill just go ahead
[18:28] <JDahl> ok, I just ran "gksu nvidia-settings", applied the changes and saved, and checked that the time-stamp on xorg.conf had changed.   In my xorg.conf file, there is only one monitor specified, is that correct?
[18:28] <rek> ActionParsnip: rules lol ;-)
[18:28] <inManix> just it sais 320mb is in use
[18:28] <phobos_> plz which is the port of no-ip (DNS application)  because i have modify my firewall and now it doesn't work..
[18:29] <karma_police> i just installed  and did the update but i am not sure it it loaded grub2 or not.. is there a way to check? also is there a way to update to grub2 or is reinstall required?
[18:29] <Umbongiovanni> sebsebseb what would you reccomend?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> rek: i keep to the guidelines, so in that repect yes
[18:29] <clever> phobos_: modify the firewall to log everything it blocks
[18:29] <jiohdi> inmanix, ext4 is a type of formatting, if it worked, then its formattered
[18:29] <rek> do u like gnome?
[18:29] <Slart> phobos_: isn't that an outgoing connection?
[18:29] <clever> Slart: iptables can block outgoing also
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: you can reinstall grub2 from livecd if it is not installed
[18:29] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: I like 9.04 overall more than 9.10, but there are reasons why it could be a good idea to put 9.10 on now rather than 9.04
[18:30] <Slart> clever: true...
[18:30] <rek> ActionParsnip:  i don't remember how can i connect to my net in terminal mode?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rek: its ok. a little slow
[18:30] <Umbongiovanni> ok
[18:30] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: basically since that will make upgrading to the April release easier, and getting all of it's features
[18:30] <inManix> error no root file system is defined O.o
[18:30] <karma_police> i think the loader says 1.97
[18:30] <Umbongiovanni> got it
[18:30] <karma_police> i am dualbooting with win7
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rek: dhclient interfacenamehere ususally works
[18:30] <noXandOs> omg this is taking forever
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> karma_police: thats grub2 then
[18:31] <karma_police> i know it had a grub2 beta in the repo so i didn't know
[18:31] <clever> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_<IP_ADDRESS>+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[18:31] <clever> i'm having trouble getting firefox to install
[18:31] <Migs> apt-get install firefox
[18:31] <clever> Migs: i did
[18:31] <kyle6513> how do i stop my XF86ScreenSaver Key from locking the screen?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> karma_police: you just upgraded 9.04 to 9.10?
[18:31] <clever> Migs: thats how i got the error
[18:32] <inManix> sebsebseb: im choosing my ext4 12gb partition to install to, its saying error no root file system is defined
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: well yeah
[18:32] <kyle6513> clever, internet all working and such?
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: your in manual install or?
[18:32] <inManix> yeah, choosing manual partition
[18:32] <inManix> otherwise it was gonna wipe everything
[18:32] <clever> kyle6513: yeah, i'm ssh'd into it already
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: ok you need to tell it to use that one as / and do the Ext4 yeah
[18:32] <clever> kyle6513: and 404 only happens if you can connect to the server
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: and the other similar, but with /home instead
[18:32]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[18:32] <jada> in adwance, thx for helping me, i get disconneted when using torrentclient
[18:32] <sebsebseb> inManix: plus you want your swap space
[18:32] <karma_police> i fresh installed 9.10 when i did the update manager it asked what version of grub to install.. i selected package maintainer's... it is using 1.97 tho..
[18:32] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <inManix> how so?
[18:33] <kyle6513> clever, odd...
[18:33] <inManix> iv made them all ext4 and labelled them so (/, /home, swap)
[18:33] <PRoze> Hi, i have ATI Radeon X550 display card. I found some wiki articles about Radeon and ATI Drivers on Ubuntu Wiki but i didn't understand them. Can someone help me?
[18:33] <Matisse> When running  configure  in dfarc-source I got some warnings and no make-file. I installed some packages. Now I get no related errors, but still no make-file. Can somebody help me?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/359665/
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <inManix> do i have to format them so in gparted? like 'set as'
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: odd
[18:33] <karma_police> !grub
[18:33] <Od> hola
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: if it's a clean install it should have put on  beta4
[18:33] <rek> hi i'm sad
[18:33] <sebsebseb> karma_police: ors omething like that
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:33] <kyle6513> inManix, there should be a place called mount point, not label
[18:33] <alamati> Hi all,
[18:33] <clever> kyle6513: i'm thinking that gutsy is no longer maintained
[18:34] <karma_police> is there a way to upgrade it to the latest? or do i need to do a reinstall and try again?
[18:34] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:34] <clever> kyle6513: so these old versions dont exist anymore
[18:34] <kyle6513> clever, maybe just a little...
[18:34] <inManix> i see 'format to'
[18:34] <Od> I have sound problems too..
[18:34] <clever> !upgrade
[18:34] <kyle6513> inManix, try double clicking the partitions
[18:34] <rek> Od: LIKE?
[18:34] <Slart> phobos_: what client are you using to update your ip on the noip servers?
[18:34] <kaffien> if i want to set my networking prefrences from the console how would i do that in ubuntu?
[18:34] <sebsebseb> karma_police: when I did it the other day put  karmic on the other computer,  I ended up going with the locally installed version,  altough I would have normalley done package maintainers
[18:34] <alamati> I install simple-ccsm few days ago and then keyboard shortcut for Alt+F1 and Alt+F2 don't work, what's the problem? help me please
[18:34] <inManix> kyle6513: i see mount too, but its greyed out
[18:34] <Umbongiovanni> Sorry
[18:35] <Od> System don't detect any sound card y "hardware"
[18:35] <sebsebseb> karma_police: well that was after upgrades I got the option to change Grub or not
[18:35] <kyle6513> inManix, it will be in the swap partition, because it needs no mount position
[18:35] <rek> Umbongiovanni: ma anche a te l'audio va da cuolo a volte va a volte si
[18:35] <Od> in*
[18:35] <Umbongiovanni> Wich ubuntu is recomended for a core 2 duo, E4500 de 2.2 ghz Micro
[18:35] <karma_police> everything works good.. i just want to be ready for 10.04 upgrade
[18:35] <kyle6513> inManix, though, for the home it will be /home and root it will be /
[18:35] <karma_police> sebsebseb .. i did the same thing
[18:35] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: most would say 9.10 at the moment, but depends on if your a business or not etc
[18:35] <Umbongiovanni> rek je parle tout moins le italien, porque solo tengo el apellido
[18:35] <karma_police> cept i chose maintainers thinking it would be the grub2
[18:35] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:36] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | Matr|x
[18:36] <phobos_> Slart: nothing , i have just installed  "noip2" with sudo apt-get....  and enter the information .... but now my firewall block it and i don't know why
[18:36] <rek> Umbongiovanni: italiano no spagnolo
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> non business sebsebseb
[18:36] <kyle6513> Umbongiovanni, I have a core 2 duo E7300 i think it is and it works fine
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> hahaha
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: put 9.10 on I guess, and if you get problems with that try 9.04
[18:36] <jada> I run ubuntu 9.10, and when downloading torrent file i loose internet connection, both in vuze and transmission bittorrent client. I have set bandwitch speed to half of what i have
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> Wok
[18:36] <inManix> kyle6513: im a little lost, iv created the partitions as ext4 in gparted, i understand i have to set them to what they are going to be
[18:36] <Caesi> Hullo, could somebody please tell me what lines to put in menu.lst to be able to boot my Windows partition? (It's the first partition on the only hard drive)
[18:36] <inManix> kyle6513: where do i do that? gparted or installer?
[18:36] <Umbongiovanni> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent this is ok?
[18:36] <phong_> hi
[18:36] <uniquebox> Hi - I had my password written done and can't find it - Can someone tell me how to reset my password ? ?
[18:36] <phobos_> Slart: I have open my port 53 (for DNS in general) but.....
[18:36] <alamati> why when install simple-ccsm the Alt+F1 don't work?
[18:36] <clever> jada: number of connections also has to be limited
[18:36] <sebsebseb> inManix:  in manual install you tell them what to use them as, not in gparted
[18:37] <sebsebseb> inManix: tell them well tell it
[18:37] <karma_police> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <kyle6513> inManix, in gparted of course, the swap partition is not formatted to ext4 right?
[18:37] <jada> okei, u mean torrent files or
[18:37] <phong_> how are you all doing ?
[18:37] <kyle6513> phong_, good yourself
[18:37] <inManix> kyle6513: i did not choose format to no, i made unallocated space and set it as ext4, performed operations and restarted
[18:37] <sebsebseb> phong_: hi
[18:37] <Slart> phobos_: from their site it seems that updating the ip is done by using a plain old HTTP GET
[18:38] <Slart> phobos_: so it should behave like regular web traffic
[18:38] <Umbongiovanni> is it ok an ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  for a core 2 duo E7300?
[18:38] <kyle6513> inManix, restarted your computer? O.o
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: you can make  all three in gparted first or do it all in manual
[18:38] <sebsebseb> Umbongiovanni: if you have a 64bit proccessor yes
[18:38] <inManix> sebsebseb: sure, so i select use as and select ex4 journal for all and swap for swap?
[18:38] <Slart> phobos_: http://www.no-ip.com/integrate/request/
[18:38] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I believe the core 2 duo is 64bit, as mine is...
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: for swap well you make it into a  linux swap
[18:38] <sebsebseb> inManix: the other two Ext4
[18:38]  * kyle6513 has never used a 64 bit operating system
[18:39] <Slart> kyle6513: it's like 32bit.. but with more leg room =)
[18:39] <inManix> so ext4 journal filing system for / and /home, swap area for swap
[18:39] <inManix> gotcha
[18:39] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: well they aren't a big deal at all, unless something is doing something that takes up  a lot of resources or something
[18:39] <phobos_> Slart: ty i go see that
[18:39] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: someone not something above
[18:39] <kyle6513> Slart, haha, yeah, manages processes better right?
[18:39] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so, better for gaming and such or?
[18:39] <sebsebseb> inManix: Ext4  journerling file system for / and /home  and Linux swap for the swap
[18:40] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: for some games I guess so
[18:40] <inManix> sebsebseb: sais 'swap area' for swap, and im not mounting it anywhere right?
[18:40] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so more for like, rendering and such? cpu intensive types of things?
[18:40] <Slart> kyle6513: ehm.. not that I've noticed.. from a blurry eyed user point-of-view it's the same as 32bit.. but you can use more memory..they say it's a little faster with some stuff as well
[18:40] <KaZeR> ++
[18:40] <kyle6513> inManix, that is correct
[18:40] <jada> what is number of connection, a) torrents file downloading or b) maximum peers per torrent? Loose internet connection after a few minutes when downloading torrentfile
[18:40] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: yes more for   stuff that uses a lot of CPU  power  and such
[18:41] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: power? well that needs to use a lot of CPU yeah
[18:41] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I see
[18:41] <Roasted> does anybody know why brasero doesnt burn CDs, but k3b does? brasero just hung at preparing forEVER on 2 blank CDs. But on k3b, it burns fine. Ubuntu 9.10. Any ideas?
[18:42] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, so, its better to be using 64, just in case? since all of the linux software is compatible with 64 and 32 bit?
[18:42] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: games this that and the other,  Windows 7  this and that,  a bit of Google Chrome this and that as well,   that's what this channel is like these days :D   anyway
[18:42] <sebsebseb> !games | kyle6513
[18:42] <Matisse> Configure says "Error: you need to install the libbz2 library (for compression)" - how do I tell configure the correct path? (the package is installed)
[18:42] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, haha yeah :)
[18:43] <kanzie> how can I get the gateway-IP on my machine
[18:43] <kanzie> ifconfig -a gave me broadcast-addr. is this the same?
[18:43] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: and then sadly on top of that the useual issues,  Adobe Flash,  pulseaudio, ATI,  and some Grub 2 issues now
[18:43] <Slart> kanzie: broadcast address is something else.. check the routing tables
[18:43] <clever> kanzie: run 'ip route'
[18:44] <azo> re
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, I think thats the most of the reason linux isnt a leader in distributions, the fact that 1 support is done through things like irc(and most casual people have NO idea xD) and they say the best things in life are free, and its true, I've been able to customize my linux desktop better than i did windows in about 10 minutes of my time
[18:44] <clever> kanzie: its the default one, on the 'via' line
[18:44] <Slart> kanzie: if you're looking for the external ip on your network there is sites like http://whatismyip.com
[18:44] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:44] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: well some people are working on a proper manual aimed at beginners for the next one, it will be a free PDF download.  anyway we just went off topic
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, hey, even windows has issues, only problem is windows has adobe's and all hardware manufactures support, sadly...
[18:44] <benpro> hi all
[18:44] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, we did >.<
[18:45] <kyle6513> Matr|x, are the speakers plugged in? :P
[18:45] <Matr|x> yes
[18:45] <Migs> I still haven't figured out this Mindtouch repo problem.  It's like it's not organized properly: http://repo.mindtouch.com/xUbuntu_9.10/     These instructions here tell me to add what's apparently a malformed line to sources.list: http://developer.mindtouch.com/Official_MindTouch_Installation_Guides/Ubuntu_8.04_MindTouch_Deki_Community_Edition_Package_Installation
[18:45] <Matr|x> in windows xp sound very cool
[18:45] <jada> anybody who knows how to configure torrent client so i dont loose internet connection, this never happend under xp or vista
[18:45] <Migs> that's for an older Ubuntu version, though...
[18:46] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: and well yeah at the manufacture thing, and it's not just hardware support, it's  popular commercial software support
[18:46] <frandieguez> hi to all, I'm trying to setup unattended-upgrades to upgrade custom repositories like personal repository or similar. I have searched on internet an readed some manfiles but I can't find anyting.
[18:46] <SciRuoWa> my friend and i were trying to install a driver for my wireless card, and used an instamagick installer thing, but my linux partition now refuses to boot, and goes into kernel panic if i try to. any ideas as to what went wrong, by any chance?
[18:46] <kyle6513> Matr|x, right click on the speaker, go preferences, go to the output tab, and make sure that analog output is selected in the drop down
[18:46] <Slart> SciRuoWa: well.. your wi-fi driver seems to be a very probable culprit.. tried uninstalling it?
[18:47] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, Its just nice to know that people like you, and many others take time out of their day to help users without getting paid(atleast i think you arent) whereas the microsoft support get paid, and they treat you like rubbish and are of no help!
[18:47] <TecoMestre> I can not change the cursor theme for Ubuntu, can someone help me?
[18:47] <kyle6513> TecoMestre, I have that very same problem i believe
[18:47] <afeijo> hello guys
[18:48] <sebsebseb> kyle6513: yep loads of us who help in here that don't get paid for it
[18:48] <Slart> SciRuoWa: I'm not really sure here.. but you could try booting from a live cd (the regular ubuntu install cd is a live cd) and then try removing the compiled kernel module.. I think that will just give you an error message but a working kernel
[18:48] <vikasap> The Preferences->Display shows "Unkown Monitor". So I cant switch on the dual display. Any ideas ?
[18:48] <Roasted> does anybody know why brasero doesnt burn CDs, but k3b does? brasero just hung at preparing forEVER on 2 blank CDs. But on k3b, it burns fine. Ubuntu 9.10. Any ideas?
[18:48] <afeijo> I'm recieveing an cron email every 10 minutes, with 3 lines. The first line is 'PHP Warning:  Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0'. How can I fix it?
[18:48]  * inManix hi5's sebsebseb
[18:48] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, :D
[18:48] <SciRuoWa> thanks, slart!
[18:48] <Slart> SciRuoWa: you're welcome
[18:48] <Matr|x> evry thing is good
[18:48] <Matr|x> but no sound
[18:49] <phong_> clear
[18:49] <hiexpo> right click on dexktop click change dexktop background than click theme than customize than pointers select the one you want you have to reboot for it to take place
[18:49] <nibbler> afeijo: check your cronjobs, who is the user sending these?
[18:49] <jada> looks like its to many users for the few ops
[18:49] <inManix> its funny that people like sebsebseb can be so generous...yet my girlfriend just had an engineer come out from dell to fix her laptop which broke half way through 3 weeks of exams. they replaced the hard-drive, reinstalled vista and left without installing any drivers
[18:49] <Migs> loz
[18:49] <Migs> *lolz
[18:49] <Anusien> So I was dist-upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 and that succeeded, so I went ahead and jumped to 9.10. Only my VNC session hung, if I try to connect with ssh it just sits there connecting before it even asks for a username.
[18:49] <afeijo> I'm recieveing an cron email every 10 minutes, with 3 lines. The first line is 'PHP Warning:  Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0'. How can I fix it?
[18:49] <Anusien> I hear it still working though. Any suggestions?
[18:49] <inManix> she can't connect to the internet, she can't even open a movie, she can't do jack. i have to go sort it out lol
[18:49] <kyle6513> inManix, LOL
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/359342/
[18:50] <nibbler> afeijo: instead of spamming the channel rather read what is said to you....
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> karmic.
[18:50] <kyle6513> inManix, did you get to keep the new harddrive?
[18:50] <mothersofinventi> anyone?
[18:50] <Matr|x> sorry guys i have a problem , i  just finshed from  installing ubuntu and my sound card is wokring voulem control is wokring , alsamixer is active but no out sound from the spaker
[18:50] <inManix> rofl
[18:50] <Slart> afeijo: check your crontab  (crontab -l).. see what program is running every third minute.. when you know that we can continue troubleshooting
[18:50] <sebsebseb> inManix: what's sad is that there are people like me, who will help loads of people online with computer,  but that also don't  have IT support jobs,  but I don't want to work with Windows much, that's one of the reasons
[18:50] <protojay> !repeat
[18:51] <Slart> afeijo: which is basically what nibbler told you a minute ago..
[18:51] <hiexpo> matr]x have you done all the updates sudo apt-get update than update manager first
[18:51] <Matr|x> nop
[18:51] <kyle6513> sebsebseb, and you do it over the internet, they were there in person.
[18:51] <Matr|x> i still downloading media upntu
[18:52] <freku> maybe he didnt plug in the soundconnector
[18:52] <freku> :)
[18:52] <CAPcap> wheres a good place to find more stations for Internet radio that i can play from rhythmbox?
[18:52] <kyle6513> freku, no, already asked that ;P
[18:52] <Matr|x> nop
[18:52] <hiexpo> do them first that will probally solve your probs
[18:52] <Matr|x> evry thing is alright but i think its somthing block tthe  sound
[18:52] <virgile> ouch, land of some damage => [ ]
[18:52] <Anusien> What happens if the machine restarts during a dist-upgrade?
[18:52] <kyle6513> CAPcap, I want some australian radio stations :P
[18:52] <freku> does sound work with live-cd
[18:53] <kyle6513> Anusien, VERY bad things
[18:53] <Slart> Anusien: hopefully you restart and continue your upgrade
[18:53] <sebsebseb> Anusien: it might be messed up or  you can just start it again, in fact  there's a way to re start  an upgrade if it goes wrong, but I don't know how
[18:53] <hiexpo> do sudo apt-get update that will take some time than go to update manager do that than go back and do sudp apt-get upgrade
[18:53] <Slart> Anusien: if you haven't made the proper sacrifices lately... well.. then things can get ugly =)
[18:53] <Anusien> My machine literally won't respond to anything. I see no display on my LCD, I can't get in with VNC or ssh
[18:53] <kyle6513> oh dear..
[18:54] <Slart> Anusien: try booting with a live cd
[18:54] <Anusien> I hear it working, but it's been running this upgrade for like 12 hours, and it's possible it's waiting on some result
[18:54] <hiexpo> freku yes usually
[18:56] <jellow_> Anusien: have you tried Ctl - alt and F1 , To get to console?
[18:57] <kenyabob> Is it possible to duplicate a hard drive over the network to another drive via samba?
[18:58] <jellow_> kenyabob: Never done it before but you could use netcat and pipe it through samba
[18:58] <Slart> kenyabob: I don't think samba offers that kind of info..  you can duplicate the files but the disc structure might be hidden
[18:58] <Slart> kenyabob: do you really need to actually "duplicate" the disc?
[18:58] <powertoo108> kenyabob: Clonezilla can copy over the network to a samba share.
[18:58] <nibbler> kenyabob: besides i think you dont need to duplicate, you could do it with one step in between easily
[18:59] <kenyabob> Slart: I have a machine that I have configured to perfection and now I must change the machine to a new that has an scsi drive that I cannot mount to the old one
[18:59] <Slart> kenyabob: oh.. wait nevermind.. you mean make a copy of a local hard drive and place that copy on a samba server? yes.. that would work
[18:59] <nibbler> kenyabob: cat /dev/sda > /media/sambashare/target
[18:59] <Anusien> jellow_: When I turn on the TV, I get a bouncing no signal
[19:00] <Anusien> CTRL-ALT-F1 does nothing
[19:00] <RichardLynch> A fresh Ubuntu/Firefox install, and F5 does not reload a web page.  Is F5 over-ridden somehwere?  It's Gnome desktop.
[19:00] <kenyabob> Slart: so I though doing it over the network would work, though I guess I could do it with an external hard drive for both
[19:00] <Slart> RichardLynch: it works on my system.. I don't think I've done anything special to my system when it comes to shortcuts
[19:00] <nibbler> kenyabob: it is a linux system?
[19:01] <cxo> RichardLynch, check if your keyboard has a hotkey switch to get function keys working
[19:01] <kenyabob> nibbler: its ubuntu and I want to duplicate it to a blank hard drive on the other machine, essentially just migrating the data from one to the other
[19:01] <Slart> kenyabob: the image is basically just a big file.. so samba will work nicely.. or nfs or any kind of file server tech
[19:01] <RichardLynch> Oh.  Maybe that's it.    The top of the button says "Open" and the vertical front of the button says F5.  Now I have to figure out how to fix this stupid keyboard...
[19:02] <nibbler> kenyabob: this is way more easy, you can copy the files, no need to touch the blockdevice (layer wise) - read "harddisk upgrade mini howto"
[19:02] <powertoo108> Anusien: You can force a safe restart with ctrl+alt+print screen + R + E + I + S + U + B, the reisub part doesn't have to be held down all at once, just one after another in that order.
[19:02] <RichardLynch> F-lock?  wft is F-lock?  I want to strangle a Microsoft hardware engineer...
[19:02] <jellow_> Anusien: Im confused is the tv using ubuntu?
[19:02] <Slart> kenyabob: I'm not sure you can do hard drive to hard drive over samba.. you might have to create an image file first..   ie remote drive-> image file -> local hard drive
[19:02] <RichardLynch> Thanks for the help!  Sorry it turned out to be faulty hardware.
[19:02] <Anusien> jellow_: The TV is my display device, yeah
[19:02] <kenyabob> so I create a disk image on the old machine
[19:03] <kenyabob> transfer it
[19:03] <kanzie> hmm, downloaded the 32-bit Ubuntu and burned on a dvd, put it in my computer and tried to boot but all I get is a prompt saying "boot: "
[19:03] <kenyabob> and then restore from the image on the new machien
[19:03] <kanzie> if I try to write anything it says "Can not find kernel image linux"
[19:03] <guntbert> !md5sum | kanzie
[19:03] <RichardLynch> Wow. Why does my nick here appear to me as "freenode"? Weird.
[19:03] <kenyabob> nibbler: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/?
[19:03] <Anusien> powertoo108: I still hear the disk spinning up and occasionally spinning down. Should I just give it some hours until it finishes?
[19:03] <Slart> kenyabob: that's what I would try
[19:03] <jada> let me put the qustion like this, is it a common problem to loose internet connection while downloading torrent files in os ubuntu
[19:04] <ZykoticK9> jada, no
[19:04] <Slart> RichardLynch: no idea why you're freenode on your system.. I see you as RichardLynch
[19:04] <powertoo108> Anusien: That command series should immediately reboot it, no waiting involved.
[19:04] <RichardLynch> Slart: Local alias in pidgin got set to freenode, for some reason beyond my ken...  Sorry about that.
[19:04] <nibbler> kenyabob: yep, this. its justabout keeping the permissions to the files etc. if you dont want trouble with bootloader just install a new ubuntu of same type to target pc, and copy over all the directories but /proc /dev/ /boot /sys
[19:04] <nucking> hey everyone, i'd like to swap eth0 with eth1 is there a quick way to do that?
[19:05] <kenyabob> nibbler: so just read through this and figure out what needs to be copied over and what to forget about
[19:05] <nibbler> kenyabob: install target pc, boot it with livedisk then, use rsync to transfer everything
[19:05] <RichardLynch> nucking: Open up the box and switch them. Anything else is probably asking for trouble.
[19:05] <jada> okei, strange that i never had this problem on windows, but good to know its going to be okei, if i configure it right
[19:05] <nibbler> kenyabob: exactly
[19:05] <Slart> nucking: check in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  that's where ubuntu stores which network becomes eth0, eth1 and so on.. change it there and reboot
[19:05] <nucking> RichardLynch, one is onboard, the other is pci
[19:05] <powertoo108> Anusien: Just looked it up, the ctrl key isn't needed just hold alt+print screen the entire time, then reisub one at a time in order
[19:05] <nucking> Slart, thanks
[19:05] <afeijo> nibbler, sorry, too fast channel
[19:05] <RichardLynch> nucking: Maybe down in the BIOS you might find a setting for it...  I sure doubt it.
[19:06] <powertoo108> Anusien: reisuo will shutdown instead of restarting it.
[19:06] <afeijo> nibbler: the user is root
[19:06] <nibbler> afeijo: you should have highlighting on lines with your nickname, xchat (and most irc clients) do it by (ubuntu) default
[19:06] <powertoo108> Anusien: If that doesn't work, you probably have to do a hard reset.
[19:06] <theadmin> What network manager is used in Xubuntu?
[19:06] <nibbler> afeijo: sudo crontab -l
[19:06] <RichardLynch> nucking: You're asking a hardware question more than software, really...  Not sure the right channel, but Ubuntu is too high-level, almost for sure.
[19:06] <Anusien> powertoo108: Just wondering if I should do it or let it finish, and what will break if I reboot during this
[19:07] <jada> network manager 0.7 in ubuntu
[19:07] <powertoo108> Anusien: It shouldn't break anything, but it will kill all running processes.
[19:07] <Slart> RichardLynch: Ubuntu maps interface names to .. MAC addresses I think.. it does this the first time it sees them and then saves the result in the udev rules.d folder.. no magic.. just a text file
[19:07] <powertoo108> Anusien: http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart
[19:08] <guntbert> powertoo108: if I read correctly Anusien is in the middle of a (hung) dist-upgrade
[19:09] <Anusien> guntbert: I may or may not be hung. I have no way to monitor its process other than listening ot the hd
[19:09] <powertoo108> guntbert: Oh missed that part. I guess it could break something then?
[19:09] <afeijo> nibbler: root crontab have no line that run every 10 minutes
[19:09] <axon> \j #linuxac
[19:09] <karelm> Hi all. I have an old ibook clamshell (3GB hd, 280MB ram, 300Mhz G3) here and am looking for suggestions on how to optimize it. I was thinking of doing an install using the alternate cd and then run xfce (as gnome is probably too heavy)... any suggestions?
[19:09] <rek> hi any program to reproduce the voice? text to speech l
[19:10] <nibbler> afeijo: hmm, there is other sources for cronjobs in /etc/cron* but nothing that should be 3-minutely
[19:10] <guntbert> Anusien: powertoo108: don't know for myself - just wanted to give you a heads up
[19:10] <nibbler> afeijo: no idea then
[19:10] <Anusien> guntbert: It seems to me that even if it guns the system, most of the data should be safe, right?
[19:10] <powertoo108> Anusien: Well I guess wait as long as you're willing to wait. But this method should fix it. I've only had one instance when the REISUB combo didn't work for me.
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> karelm, that's a PowerPC (vs Intel) be sure whatever OS you use supports PowerPC
[19:11] <Anusien> powertoo108: ... what was that instance?
[19:11] <jada> what do u guys think, is it a torrent client problem or a configure problem that result in loosing internet connection
[19:11] <Slart> karelm: he.. for a second I read.. old ibook.. 3GB memory.. that doesn't sound so old.. or.. wait..   to answer your question.. try openbox or xfce.. or even some of the even leaner linux distros.. arch/DSL/puppylinux
[19:11] <erUSUL> !info festival | rek
[19:11] <guntbert> Anusien: yes, the data are always retrieveable - because nothing messes with the file system during an upgrade
[19:11] <karelm> ZykoticK9: yeah I know, ubuntu doesn't officially support it anymore but it is there... I actually have xubuntu running at the moment, but I was thinking that an alternate install would be faster...?
[19:11] <powertoo108> Anusien: "fix it" bad choice of words, it should restart, despite how frozen it seems, and yes, all hard drive data is safe since its shutdown in a proper way.
[19:12] <Anusien> How long should a dist upgrade take?
[19:12] <jolaren> I've installed ubuntu minimal installation, how do i install the window manager? like gnome?
[19:12] <Slart> Anusien: depends on the hardware, network connection and how much stuff you're upgrading
[19:13] <karelm> Slart: I tried lxde (uses openbox). I think its a little lighter but I like xfce more... it has a more polished feel
[19:13] <Anusien> Average hardware from two years ago on a large pipe, upgrading just about everything. wondering if 24 hours is reasonable?
[19:13] <cxo> karelm, a generic linux kernel supplied with any popular distro will be too much for that thing. Use ubuntu as a base and build your own kernel.
[19:13] <powertoo108> Anusien: I don't really remember the specifics. But nothing responded, no ssh, ctrl+alt+f1 didn't work, no clicks on the drive, couldn't even open the cd drives.
[19:13] <CAPcap> how do i open an internet radio broadcast from shoutcast with rhythmbox?
[19:13] <Slart> Anusien: 24 hours seems a bit exessive.. anything over an hour would make me start troubleshooting
[19:13] <guntbert> CAPcap: I think you need a plugin
[19:13] <Anusien> The CD drive will open
[19:14] <Anusien> Slart: Then I'm officially worried :)
[19:14] <jellow_> lol
[19:14] <Slart> karelm: sure.. go with xfce then..
[19:14] <usuario> hola
[19:14] <Anusien> It was going through a terminal session in a vnc session, for what that's worth
[19:14] <rek> i don't hear the soud
[19:14] <rek> i don't hear the sound
[19:14] <Anusien> of course it hung a few times when it couldn't upgrade the lird
[19:14] <usuario> del san isidoro
[19:14] <guntbert> !es | usuario
[19:14] <karelm> Slart: I'm especially wonering if I will see any differnce when installing with the alternate cd instead of xubuntu livecd...
[19:15] <Slart> karelm: you might want to remove any unneeded stuff running in the background... not really sure how to decide what to remove.. but try searching the ubuntu forums.. there has to be a "unpimp my ubuntu" thread somewhere
[19:15] <Slart> karelm: I think you'll end up with the same system.. the alternate install cd can do some extra tricks.. encrypted partitions and such
[19:15] <domito_> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% of replies get back to the requestor
[19:15] <domito_> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside, server is 8.04
[19:16] <sniker> Hm, I just downloaded skype 2.1 beta 2 for Ubuntu
[19:16] <sniker> And how do you share screens?
[19:16] <nibbler> domito_: and the arp replies are seen on the firewall, and get dropped then?
[19:16] <sniker> Can't find an option for it despite googling?
[19:16] <nibbler> domito_: ah, your wrote, sorry
[19:16] <karelm> Slart: oh ok, hoped it would really make a difference... I don't really use the system so I can easily do a clean install, no need for backups or anything :)
[19:17] <nibbler> domito_: its only true for arp?
[19:17] <domito_> nibbler: all  are seen on the bridge and external IF, internal sees only 33% of replies
[19:17] <domito_> nibbler: no, arp is the cause of it though
[19:17] <jolaren> how do i install the gnome windowmanager in ubuntu miniman installation??
[19:17] <erUSUL> domito_: #networking ?
[19:17] <domito_> no other packets get through cuz it does not get a hw address
[19:17] <blakkheim> jolaren: there is no "gnome window manager"
[19:17] <erUSUL> jolaren: only the wm or whole gnome ?
[19:17] <Oneill> hi @ all
[19:18] <domito_> erUSUL: I was looking for such a channel, will try :)
[19:18] <erUSUL> blakkheim: metacity is the gnome wm
[19:18] <jolaren> erUSUL; only the wm
[19:18] <blakkheim> erUSUL: metacity is a window manager that's the default in the gnome DE, but there is no window manager called gnome. that's what i meant.
[19:18] <Slart> karelm: well.. the installer itself might be a bit different.. I think the alternate cd has a text based installer.. the regular desktop one has prettier pictures
[19:18] <erUSUL> jolaren: look for others wm. metacity without gnome is pretty useless.
[19:18] <nibbler> domito_: there is special methods which you can apply to generate packetloss, but i guess you didnt play with these?
[19:19] <blakkheim> jolaren: look into dwm/awesome/openbox/fluxbox imo
[19:19] <karelm> Slart: yes, but when I mean alternate I also mean... no gui to start with, and then build on top of it
[19:19] <troopperi> sniker, checked this? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/skype-21-beta-2-for-linux-released.html
[19:19] <erUSUL> jolaren: openbox windowmaker or fluxbox is a better choices for a standalone wm
[19:19] <Slart> karelm: ah.. have you looked at the minimal install cd?
[19:19] <zamba> i have this irritating problem with ubuntu 9.10.. whenever i click on a terminal window, it is interpreted as a double-click.. this means that my copy buffer is wiped.. how can i fix this behaviour?
[19:19] <gerzel> brassero cd burner just died on me.  How do I kill it and eject the cd?  Just want it to stop
[19:19] <Slart> !minimal | karelm
[19:19] <gerzel> tried kill
[19:19] <gerzel> tried sudo kill
[19:19] <gerzel> tried unmount
[19:20] <powertoo108> Anusien: If I were in your situation, I'd REISUB it, then see what's broken after the restart. If its pretty messed up, I'd grab the install cd and reinstall. Note: I have /home as its own partition so reinstalling is fast and I don't lose any /home data. Anyway, I've got to go now. Good luck with it.
[19:20] <ionut> what does sudo kill ?
[19:20] <nibbler> gerzel: lsof |grep /dev/cdrom
[19:20] <Slart> nibbler: oh.. that sounds interesting.. anything I can google for to find how to simulate/generate packetloss in iptables?
[19:20] <Anusien> powertoo108: I don't know if I was that smart
[19:20] <domito_> nibbler: no, I have been watching tcpdumps trying to find frags or dups with no success
[19:20] <domito_> or drops
[19:20] <Anusien> powertoo108: but the livecd should let me mount the drive and back up if I have to
[19:21] <sniker> troopperi: Aha, so basically, if you don't have a webcam the screensharing feature doesn't work? Since I just upgraded but don't have that webcam icon since I don't have a webcam, the scrensharing feature doesn't work?
[19:21] <sniker> troopperi: Thanks very much for the link tho
[19:21] <nibbler> Slart: dunno, just have some boot-cd here with which i can simulate latency/packetloss
[19:21] <guntbert> gerzel: what was your kill command?
[19:21] <gerzel> nibbler: no responce.
[19:21] <LucidGuy> Any Scalix users in the house?
[19:21] <gerzel> sudo kill 8889
[19:21] <troopperi> sniker, np :)
[19:21] <nibbler> gerzel: did you put your cd device in the right place?
[19:22] <guntbert> gerzel: try sudo kill -9 8889
[19:22] <gerzel> standard install.  It had been working before.