[20:21] <mestar> Yeah edbian, but better safe than sorry eh?
[20:21] <Qwert> rewati:  You need notebook edition?
[20:21] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: yeah
[20:21] <billif_ze> andycc: ohhh yes.. i havent look for that.. i just look alltray threads... thanks to remember that...
[20:21] <besogon> antIP: NFS only for servers and clients wich work with linux. To tell you the truth, SAMBA 3 has some disadvantages.
[20:21] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: still the same
[20:21] <mestar> I WAS thinking of formatting my internal harddrive and installin ubuntu because I have not used windows for ages, then I realised I have a windows only wireless dongle...
[20:21] <edbian> mestar, I suppose...
[20:21] <mestar> Anyway, cheers for the help edbian
[20:21] <rewati> Qwert: I need netbook edition
[20:22] <MattNeedsHelp> Hey does anyone know why my normal method of automatically logging in isn't working in 10.4??  In 9.10 I'd just add a /bin/login statement to /etc/init/tty1.conf and that worked fine, but something changed in 10.4 and it doesn't work anymore.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> scriptwarlock, the same as the pastebin ?
[20:22] <Qwert> rewati: Have you tried ubuntu before?
[20:22] <rewati> yeah
[20:22] <andycc> MattNeedsHelp: you should use /etc/inittab for that.
[20:22] <besogon> antIP: eg. it can't be a controler of domen AD. (It can do only SAMBA4 wich is under development now) and
[20:22] <edbian> mestar, Those things are a pain with linux
[20:22] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: some error during reinstallation: the package might be corrupted or you are not alowed to open the file. check the permisison of the file.. same as pastebin
[20:22] <rewati> i have been using it for 5 year now its my only os
[20:22] <mestar> Yeah edbian, I got one free with my phone and was planning on buying one
[20:22] <andycc> MattNeedsHelp: and a Py/C program to login. There are tutorials.
[20:22] <rewati> Qwert: i have been using it for 5 year now its my only os
[20:23] <mestar> Are any wireless dongles Linux Supported?
[20:23] <erUSUL> mestar: a lot of them
[20:23] <erUSUL> !hcl > mestar
[20:23] <MattNeedsHelp> Thanks andycc, I'll look into that
[20:23] <edbian> mestar, Some are.  I can't tell you which are.  I don't have any
[20:23] <Qwert> rewati: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook
[20:23] <mestar> Ahh cheers erUSUL
[20:23] <rewati> yeah
[20:23] <Qwert> rewati: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[20:24] <drew212> lorenzocabrini: ok, well my primary HDD isn't showing up anymore =P
[20:24] <rewati> Qwert: i got it its already on download thanks though
[20:24] <besogon> antIP: Samba3 as WINS server don't understand replications from WINS Windows server. You should use samba4wins in pair with samba 3 to make it works
[20:24] <drew212> lorenzocabrini: im on my netbook now
[20:24] <mestar> And edbian, yeah, I used one on holiday that I borrowed, I spent about £5 on the dongle's wireless, would have spent £20 for a weekend in the hotels wifi
[20:24] <Qwert> rewati: Its <ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso>
[20:24] <Qwert> rewati: huh?
[20:24] <mestar> They are amazing things, but the only thing thats stopping my wiping windows 7 off my computer =/
[20:24] <fishcooker> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/HRG0nFhR
[20:25] <fishcooker> anyone
[20:25] <andycc> mestar: a lot of them. But make sure to check.
[20:25] <rewati> Qwert: yup
[20:25] <Qwert> rewati: What?
[20:25] <fishcooker> ?!
[20:25] <mestar> Yeah andycc, I am planning on looking for a nice one for under £20
[20:25] <rewati> Qwert: its ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso
[20:25] <aliverius> what subnet mask do i have to use in /etc/network/interfaces to ifup an interface with no ip? i suppose the address must be <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:25] <Karen_m> my sound is gone *again*.
[20:25] <Qwert> rewati: Yeah
[20:25] <rewati> Qwert: it will run on atom right
[20:25] <antIP> besogon: mmm. Well I don't run windows anymore. I'm trying to stay as far away from it as I can get.
[20:26] <Qwert> rewati: That's what you need right? Yes it will... which notebook?
[20:26] <benovic> is it just me or do more ubunteers experience gnome freezing windows a lot since 1 or 2 days ago?
[20:26] <edbian> aliverius, Why ifup that interface at all?  What is the difference if it has no IP?
[20:26] <fishcooker> what happen with my /media/doc
[20:26] <ikonia> benovic: just you
[20:26] <zubergeek> mestar: http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[20:26] <rewati> Qwert: lenovo atom 455
[20:26] <venik> Lyx files normally open Lyx, but in SOME FOLDERS (but not others) I am asked what to do with a lyx file (display, run, etc.)  How do I fix it?  I tried the properties, but it did not cure the problem
[20:26] <fishcooker> it works well on other box
[20:26] <mestar> zubergeek you legend =D
[20:26] <benovic> ikonia, oh noes :(
[20:27] <zubergeek> :)
[20:27] <aliverius> edbian: i want it to be uped at boot
[20:27] <carandraug> how can I run a sudo command with a ">" on it? sudo echo something > /file/I/need?permissions/to/write I've tried to enclose the whole command with quotes but nothing
[20:27] <besogon> antIP: also I find on Samba wiki that win7 can't be a client of samba3 server without changing the reestr.
[20:27] <zubergeek> it might require some 'tweaking', but at the end of the day, with linux, you get out what you put in :)
[20:27] <edbian> aliverius, But for what?  It doesn't have an IP so it can't communicate with others?  Just leave it down
[20:27] <hall1352> AUGUST
[20:27] <Qwert> rewati: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[20:27] <mestar> Oh and edbian, quick last question. Would there be any downside to formatting my internal HDD and installing ubuntu on it? I am thinking it would make life a lot easier for me (if I found the dongle =P) if my files were all backed up.
[20:27] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: you enclose the echo part only (the whole sudo "echo > whateverpathfile")
[20:28] <aliverius> edbian: to create a bridge for qemu
[20:28] <mestar> I am wondering if it could screw my computer up is all.
[20:28] <edbian> mestar, I see no downside.
[20:28] <hall1352> AUGUST
[20:28] <edbian> mestar, What is your current set up?
[20:28] <judis003> will you a ho
[20:28] <edbian> aliverius, Then the interface must have an IP address.
[20:28] <hall1352> LETS START AN INTRAMURAL TEAM
[20:28] <HexLaTor> fishcooker, just type: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[20:28] <hall1352> ONLY IT GUYS
[20:28] <judis003> of what
[20:28] <FloodBot4> hall1352: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <mestar> edbian, Windows 7 with ubuntu on a sepperate partition
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> !ot | hall1352
[20:28] <hall1352> IT WILL BE CALLED NBA L33T
[20:28] <ikonia> hall1352: please stop that
[20:28] <besogon> antIP: here it was http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Main_Page
[20:28] <fishcooker> thanks for quick response hexlator
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> !ops | hall1352
[20:29] <Qwert> hall1352: Stop that
[20:29] <mestar> But I would rather get rid of windows for conviences sake ed
[20:29] <HexLaTor> fishcooker,that works ?
[20:29] <fishcooker> what should i do hexlator
[20:29] <edbian> mestar, I don't see the downside of using linux exclusively :)
[20:29] <fishcooker> mount manually
[20:29] <scriptwarlock> anyone else has idea for this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/499287/
[20:29] <fishcooker> with option
[20:29] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, I don't want write the output of echo into the file. That only echoes to my STDOUT, the terminal
[20:29] <HexLaTor> fishcooker, type: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[20:29] <mestar> Lol edbian, I got warned by the people here how I may need windows
[20:29] <edbian> mestar, You don't have to reinstall.  Boot a live CD and simply re-arrange the existing partitions so that the windows 7 one is gone and the linux one is expanded.  You might have to fix grub though.
[20:29] <besogon> antIP: also I know about a "bag" with samba in ubuntu 10.04 (at least in Desktop versions)
[20:29] <mestar> I honestly have not used it at all really
[20:30] <ikonia> scriptwarlock: where did you get that package
[20:30] <mestar> And edbian fixed grub twice mate
[20:30] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: please explain (to the channel) in more detail
[20:30] <besogon> antIP: Samba starts before CUPS
[20:30] <edbian> mestar, I've been windows free for 2 years.  It depends entirely on the person.
[20:30] <edbian> mestar, Sounds to me like you're golden.
[20:30] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: somewhere from eee
[20:30] <venik> Lyx files normally open Lyx, but in SOME FOLDERS (but not others) I am asked what to do with a lyx file (display, run, etc.) How do I fix it? I tried the properties, but it did not cure the problem
[20:30] <xbonesx> i need to edit the grub on my flash drive can someone help me with this?
[20:30] <mestar> Yeah edbian, I am excited about going windows free
[20:30] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: got the hardest app to remove
[20:30] <fishcooker> scriptwarlock
[20:30] <edbian> mestar, You should be!  It's a great feeling :D
[20:30] <venik> I am running ubuntu 10.04/gnome
[20:30] <fishcooker> get purge option
[20:30] <ikonia> scriptwarlock: ok, contact them as either a.) their remove script is messed up, or b.) someones deleted the python script it needs
[20:30] <besogon> antIP: so when you make some changes of your smb.conf you don't see any printers
[20:31] <mestar> Yeah, I had not heard of linux 6 months ago edbian mate
[20:31] <fishcooker> ok hexlator i will try it
[20:31] <ikonia> mestar: edbian maybe you coul take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please ?
[20:31] <aliverius> edbian: so is it impossible to choose a netmask for an address like <IP_ADDRESS>? cause i was adviced on #qemu to use that address
[20:31] <mestar> Can't honestly see how I lived with it considering I am using a netbook mate
[20:31] <edbian> mestar, That's how long it took me to make the switch
[20:31] <edbian> ikonia, sorry :P
[20:31] <ikonia> edbian: not a problem
[20:31] <Name141> does anyone know if ubuntu-server will install desktops? Or will I have to start over from a desktop version of ubuntu ?
[20:31] <mestar> Yeah sorry ikonia mate
[20:31] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: any manual method? like deleteing some files?
[20:31] <edbian> aliverius, My guess would be <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:31] <besogon> antIP: I told you that only to make your life easier.
[20:31] <ikonia> Name141: you can insall desktops, no problem
[20:31] <ikonia> scriptwarlock: you really don't want to do deleting files
[20:31] <edbian> Name141, Ubuntu server does not come with a desktop by default
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> Name141: in ubuntu server there is no graphical interface, however you can install them easily
[20:32] <mestar> Anyway edbian, cheers for the help mate
[20:32] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, I want to write the line of text "RailsBaseURI /tracks" to the file /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks. I would do it as echo "RailsBaseURI /tracks" > /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks  If I simply add sudo before the command I get permission denied
[20:32] <Name141> correct.
[20:32] <edbian> mestar, Yep!
[20:32] <Name141> I assume lxde is the most lightweight?
[20:32] <mestar> Going to sell these 2 dongles on eBay most likely and use the money to buy a linux supported one
[20:32] <zubergeek> ikonia: what exactly is this channel for?
[20:32] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: well actuall the error is just inside the bin/dpkg
[20:32] <fishcooker> globus@earth:/media/doc$ LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[20:32] <fishcooker> globus@earth:/media/doc$ ls
[20:32] <fishcooker> ls: reading directory .: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[20:32] <mestar> everyone wins apart from my windows 7 install =D.
[20:32] <antIP> besogon: Oh, I see.
[20:32] <mestar> Peace
[20:32] <fishcooker> hexlator
[20:32] <ikonia> scriptwarlock: no, it's because a.) the remove script from the package is broke b.) someone has removed the python script it wants to call
[20:32] <ikonia> scriptwarlock: it's nothing to do with dpkg
[20:32] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: why not just do "sudo -s" before hand to get root access then do it?
[20:32] <HexLaTor> fishcooker, yes ?
[20:33] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: ah ok thanks
[20:33] <Name141> Or should I install xubuntu-desktop ?
[20:33] <ikonia> Name141: it's up to you what desktop you use
[20:33] <MarderIII> Name41: there are more lightweigth windows managers, but you dont want them
[20:33] <andycc> Name141: I recommend Openbox.
[20:33] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, I usually just edit the file with a text editor. I just wanted to have it ina single command to make it simpler (I'm writing an Howto)
[20:34] <Name141> andycc: will it all install what it needs just like xubuntu-desktop would ?
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> Name141: yeah openbox +1, lxde is openbox with a panel (lxpanel)
[20:34] <andycc> Name141: no, openbox is just the WM. You're basically creating your desktop from scratch.
[20:35] <besogon> antIP: the 'bag' I told you can treat just editing your rc.local file (write here smbcontral all reload-config). Or you can edit start up scripts for nmbd and smbd daenoms
[20:35] <Name141> :-|
[20:35] <fishcooker> still the same
[20:35] <andycc> Name141: if you want a lightweight desktop, try lubuntu-desktop
[20:35] <blindMoe> for some reason when I start X as a certain user either gdm or ubuntu-desktop is not starting and I am just stuck with a desktop background and no menu's.  The desktop icons are there but I cannot click on them.  I have tried reinstalling xorg, gdm and ubuntu-desktop.  It works fine if I start X with a different user though
[20:35] <andycc> !info lubuntu-desktop
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: just checking are you sure 'sudo 'echo RailsBaseURI/tracks > /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks' doesn't work? (please double check the quotes)
[20:35] <MarderIII> Name41: or evilwm :-)
[20:35] <blindMoe> is there a specific configuration file that I can delete for that user to reset the settings?
[20:35] <HexLaTor> thought that was ur problem...no other idea for now...good lucl
[20:35] <HexLaTor> luck*
[20:35] <Name141> I just want something so I can run SNES ROMs
[20:36] <MarderIII> Name41: on xmame?
[20:36] <slooksterpsv> phew, having to reformat; beta upgrades killed my network connection
[20:36] <ikonia> Name141: that's nothing to do with the deskop, you just need zsnes
[20:36] <cemc> hi. I have a 9.10 with an usb printer installed. I would like to print on that from another 10.04. what do I do with cups to get it working?
[20:36] <MattNeedsHelp> andycc: I found what you mentioned but it doesn't seem to be working in 10.4
[20:36] <Name141> ikonia: I can run zsnes in the terminal ?
[20:36] <ikonia> Name141: no
[20:36] <andycc> MattNeedsHelp: /msg me the link.
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> Name141: but to save on resources (if you were only going to run the emulator) i reccommend a tiling wm
[20:37] <slooksterpsv> techbreak, is it working for ya?
[20:37] <Name141> :-\
[20:37] <andycc> Name141: like Awesome.
[20:37] <andycc> Name141: or Musca. Or even dwm if you're feeling crazy.
[20:37] <techbreak> slooksterpsv, yeah :)
[20:37] <techbreak> slooksterpsv, thanks :)
[20:37] <alaing> how do i add sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start when my server boots?
[20:37] <aeon-ltd> andycc: dwm's crazy?
[20:37] <slooksterpsv> techbreak, awesome, I'm on the web irc while I reinstall lol
[20:37] <gooms> channel
[20:37] <techbreak> slooksterpsv, chao
[20:38] <jrib> alaing: why aren't you using lamp from the repositories?
[20:38] <Name141> andycc: I just want something that'll be lightweight, run good, and not turn out to be huge like ubuntu desktop edition
[20:38] <slooksterpsv> techbreak, you take care
[20:38] <andycc> aeon-ltd: dwm is configured at compile time.
[20:38] <alaing> because I wanted to use lamp from Apachefriends
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> Name141: what spec pc is this? also is it only going to be a emulator?
[20:38] <jrib> !lamp | alaing
[20:38] <andycc> Name141: then go with Fluxbox or Openbox.
[20:38] <someprimetime> what is the most absurd way to pay a parking ticket for $27?
[20:38] <antIP> edbian: do you know how to find my shared folders through the root directory? I'm curious. I don't see them in media or dev....
[20:38] <Culero_> pennies?
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> andycc: meh, i haven't recompiled in months :)
[20:38] <mkquist> someprimetime: pennnies?
[20:38] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, yes http://pastebin.com/PenAxx1n
[20:38] <techbreak> slooksterpsv, gotta nap now.. good night.. thanks again. take care
[20:39] <slooksterpsv> someprimetime, in all pennies lol
[20:39] <alaing> jrib I know you can set them up individually but i like it all packaged
[20:39] <Name141> aeon-ltd: It'll be a 'networked hard drive' too. Like install EXE's and stuff.
[20:39] <Name141> aeon-ltd: Pentium2, 10GB
[20:39] <fishcooker> thanks hexlator :D
[20:39] <mkquist> someprimetime: 27 $1.00 checks?
[20:40] <jrib> alaing: it's a much better idea to use the repositories.  For one, you get automatic security updates
[20:40] <someprimetime> hm pennies is good ... mkquist  that is exactly what i was thinking
[20:40] <someprimetime> with 27 different evelopes
[20:40] <someprimetime> envelopes rather
[20:40] <jrib> !ot | someprimetime
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> Name141: your going to need lighter than ubuntu, i reccommend debian linux mint, crucnhbang, i586 archlinux or i586 crux linux for maximium lightness
[20:40] <someprimetime> ok sorry ubottu
[20:40] <alaing> jrib yes but dont the other downloads haveperformance enhancements
[20:40] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: why are they lighter ?
[20:41] <MarderIII> Name41: take a look at Puppy linux maybe
[20:41] <Name141> aeon-ltd: I tried Debian Lenny, and didn't like it all that much.
[20:41] <jrib> alaing: what?
[20:41] <MarderIII> Name41: good support for older hardware and minimal installation
[20:42] <slooksterpsv> is it just me or are the repositories slow today?
[20:42] <ikonia> slooksterpsv: just you
[20:42] <antIP> how can I access shared directories on network through terminal?
[20:42] <alaing> jrib OK maybe that didn't make sense I'm just used to using their packaged bit of software and am used to it when I've flicked between windows and ubuntu
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: ok, i'm out of ideas but imo a sudo -s (or sudo -i) is not much more hassle than a single commadn
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: they are more raw, from the start
[20:42] <BluesKaj> Name141, perhaps the alternate-install is an option, it recognizes HW much better than the live-cd
[20:42] <jrib> alaing: use the repositories in ubuntu.  Why don't you want to?
[20:42] <slooksterpsv> ikonia ok cause it's taking a long time
[20:42] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: no they are not
[20:43] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: they are made from the same base
[20:43] <Crash1hd> Can anyone help me with crons?
[20:43] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: also the i586 specialist ones, are optimised for Name141's cpu
[20:43] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: that really won't make a difference
[20:43] <Osama_bin_Packet> here to see split
[20:43] <y007ghg7> same
[20:43] <alaing> jrib just a bit worried I dont setup something correctly or leave a huge security hole in my server
[20:43] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, yeah. I didn't thought about it before. I just tried to avoid saying edit the file and add the line. Thanks
[20:43] <fiber> hello... i just got a new laptop (with an i5 processor)... is there any reason to put the netbook remix on instead of the desktop version?  I would go with a normal desktop, i just want the installation to be minimal to save battery power
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: the seconds, a few MB of ram and a couple of mhz are worth it sometimes
[20:44] <ikonia> fiber: up to you, pros/cons to either
[20:44] <alaing> lampp from apache seems to advise you on how to set the passwords etc
[20:44] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: it wouldn't even be that
[20:44] <Crash1hd> where are crons saved? If I type crontab -l it shows my current crons but I want to edit them
[20:44] <Name141> Will Puppy use something like deb's or rpms?
[20:44] <fiber> ikonia: is there anywhere you would recommend to see the pros/cons?
[20:44] <VCoolio> Crash1hd: crontab -e
[20:44] <MarderIII> Name141: yes
[20:44] <mkquist> fiber, you know ive tried the netbook version and always ending going back to regular desktop myself
[20:44] <ikonia> fiber: ubuntu.com read about both see what meets your needs more
[20:44] <fiber> ikonia: the only things i care about are: hardware compatibility, battery life and network manager
[20:44] <Crash1hd> VCoolio, thanks
[20:45] <ikonia> fiber: hardware compatability and network manager should be the same, battery life depends what you run
[20:45] <jrib> alaing: you need to read documentation then...
[20:45] <fiber> ikonia: perfect... desktop it is!
[20:45] <rewati> Qwert: ????
[20:45] <Name141> MarderIII: Does it come with repos and stuff to auto update itself?
[20:45] <fiber> thanks for the help all!
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: it is shown there is performance gains when compiling iX86 as opposed to i386, thats one of the reasons ubuntu shifted for those with i686 capable processors to take advanatage of them, and btw sorry for leading a offtopic conversation in the main channel
[20:46] <slooksterpsv> ok bb in a while
[20:46] <fishcooker> it works hexalator
[20:46] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: note "when compiling" not "when running"
[20:46] <fishcooker> sudo mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdc3 /mnt/3 -o value=utf-8
[20:46] <MarderIII> Name141: it has repos and update facilities. no autoupdate i think.. hop over to the puppy channel
[20:46] <alaing> jrib are you sure that security updates are not applied? I'm sure on my other ubuntu setup using 9.04 desktop edition it asked me to update some of the apache security when it does updates and I used lampp on that
[20:46] <xbonesx> can someone help me with a menu.lst file, i need to edit to boot another iso file
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: ok, maybe not every app will benefit(however it will not suffer either) during runtime
[20:46] <Kyle__> I have a number of machines locking up with errors like "kernel: [<timestamp>] INFO: task <prog name>:<pid> blocked for more than 120 seconds."
[20:46] <frobisher> 5
[20:47] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: agreed, but that's not a reason to change a distro
[20:47] <antIP> Why doesn't Rythmbox pull up shared directories on other computers on the network?
[20:47] <alaing> jrib in any case I would liek to learn where to place commands on startup so I know in future
[20:47] <Kyle__> All are running 10.04, with the 2.6.32-24-generic
[20:47] <zubergeek> Anyone know where i can find a website that actually tells you what the score is with Linux and its legality in the eyes of Microshaft?
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: yeah i guess, i only recommended them if Name141 was looking at maxing out possibilities
[20:47] <jrib> alaing: apt will only update what you install from the repositories.  If you install from the repositories the packages will install the proper files so that apache and mysql start automatically as services when you boot
[20:47] <frobisher> 4*5
[20:47] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: and it wouldn't make a difference
[20:48] <frobisher> 4*5
[20:48] <antIP> why doesn't rythmbox connect to shared folders on network?
[20:48] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: opposed to ubuntu server, maybe.
[20:48] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: no, it just wouldn't make a difference
[20:49] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: ok, i'm just gonna admit defeat now. before we fill up more the channel
[20:49] <Kyle__> Anyone?  Anyone?  Repeated lockups on multiple machines?  2.6.32-24-generic kernel?
[20:49] <GregUK> Hi all. I have a number of web servers in a load balanced cluster. Can anyone suggest a way of replicating users' uploaded files (images) to all servers in the cluster?
[20:49] <aeon-ltd> *more of the channel
[20:49] <ikonia> GregUK: rsync
[20:50] <Kyle__> GregUK: You can use a clustered filesystem.  Or you could have them all mount a volume on a SAN or a fast NAS.
[20:50] <GregUK> ikonia: I was thinking something a bit more instantaneous. I'd have to run rsync every minute or something.
[20:50] <aeon-ltd> GregUK: raid1?
[20:50] <Kyle__> GregUK: If you want solid and instantanious, you need to look at a SAN.  They cost $$, but they work.
[20:50] <ikonia> GregUK: then you'd have to have shared storage at a backend
[20:50] <zubergeek> GregUK: you mean live sync?
[20:50] <Kyle__> ikonia: Exactly.
[20:51] <Kyle__> GregUK: The question will become, what's your budget, and how solid does it need to be?
[20:51] <GregUK> I've looked at DRBD, but that only allows one server to be live.
[20:51] <ikonia> GregUK: what cluster technology are you using ?
[20:51] <carandraug> aeon-ltd, I got echo "BaseRailsURI /tracks" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/tracks.conf and it works. just in case you ever need it
[20:52] <GregUK> zubergeek: What's live sync?
[20:52] <ikonia> GregUK: what cluster technology are you using ?
[20:52] <GregUK> ikonia: identical nginx web servers behind HAproxy load balancers
[20:52] <aeon-ltd> carandraug: ok, glad you resolved it :)
[20:52] <guntbert> zubergeek: thats off topic here - this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:52] <ikonia> GregUK: what OS are they running ?
[20:52] <GregUK> ikonia: all Ubuntu
[20:53] <ikonia> GregUK: ubuntu what version
[20:53] <weather15> Hello Everyone
[20:53] <GregUK> ikonia: 10.04 LTS
[20:53] <Kyle__> GregUK: If you're using all linux, you could use a coraid etherdrive SAN.  Those are pretty cheap, for a SAN.
[20:54] <arifovic> weather15: Hello
[20:54] <weather15> Does anyone know why when a second flash window is opened the other flash window goes blank?
[20:54] <ikonia> GregUK: your going to have to look at shared backend storage, and something like multimaster ldap services for auth
[20:54] <njin> Hello guys, i want to know if we have a reader of scanned images ?
[20:54] <lepota> ïðèâåò âñåì :)
[20:54] <scriptwarlock> weeeeeeeeeee i got it
[20:54] <scriptwarlock> wow
[20:54] <Kyle__> GregUK: If it helps, iscsi was rock solid when I used it on RHEL servers.
[20:54] <ikonia> njin: any image reader app should work
[20:54] <zubergeek> GregUK: I wasnt suggesting a ware called live sync, was mearly asking if you wanted 'live syncronsation of data'
[20:55] <ikonia> Kyle__: part of the reasons I was asking the ubuntu vesion, it's solid on that
[20:55] <zubergeek> but nvm now
[20:55] <lepota> íå ïîäêñêàæåòå ãäå è êàê íàñòðàèâàåòñÿ ìåíþ êîòîðîå âûâîäèò ãðàá ïðè çàãðóçêå? :)
[20:55] <scriptwarlock> ikonia: got it solved
[20:55] <Kyle__> ikonia: Ah ok.  I've never had the chance to use it in ubuntu :)
[20:55] <ikonia> Kyle__: 10.04 has solid iscsi support
[20:55] <GregUK> Kyle__, ikonia: is there an OSS solution? Would something like NFS work?
[20:55] <Kyle__> ikonia: Well, I mean for "real" work.  I test-mounted some volumes from my laptop, but that's not "real" work.
[20:55] <njin> Sorry, i want a reader that talk, like orca but can read scanned images
[20:55] <ikonia> GregUK: no, as that would be a single point of failure and make the cluster pointless
[20:56] <GregUK> zubergeek: ahh, yes. A user uploads a file to one server and it instantly replicates to the other servers.
[20:56] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: atlast i figure it out
[20:56] <Kyle__> GregUK: it would, given testing, and a reliable enough NFS server.  But an inexpsnive SAN is about the same price, and it's purpose built for it.
[20:56] <Gskelling> THE GAME
[20:56] <ikonia> GregUK: if that one server goes down, all your cluster is dead
[20:56] <Kyle__> ikonia: It could work actually.  Not ideal, but it would work.
[20:56]  * Kyle__ nods
[20:56] <GregUK> ikonia: NFS + DRBD? :)
[20:56] <ikonia> GregUK: nope
[20:57] <Kyle__> GregUK: Are you at the point of zero budget or somefin? :)
[20:57] <BluesKaj> scriptwarlock, , a differnt user installed the app ?
[20:57] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: ugly way i deleted some relative files of eee in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[20:57] <Kyle__> Whoohoo!  I signed up for google's android app-inventor the day it came out, and I just got my login info today!  Only two months later....
[20:58] <th___> hi all
[20:58] <th___> is there a netbook specific channel?
[20:58] <antIP> So, why doesn't rythmbox connect to network shared directories?
[20:58] <Kyle__> ikonia: What SANs have you used with linux?  I've only had the opprotunity to work with EMC Clarrions.
[20:58] <GregUK> Kyle__: I'd prefer to make use of what we've got if possible... shed loads of unused storage and RAID 6
[20:58] <ikonia> Kyle__: jump into #ubuntu-offtopic and I'd be happy to chat to you
[20:59] <Kyle__> th^2: Eh.  Probably not.  The netbook remix oddly isn't as nice on my netbook as full blown.
[20:59] <Kyle__> ikonia: Good idea
[20:59] <ikonia> GregUK: it's worthless to you unless it can be cross mounted on multiple machines as shared backend storage
[20:59] <GregUK> Kyle__: did you have anything in mind when you suggested a clustered filesystem?
[20:59] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: after that i just did sudo dpkg -r eee220 and it went gone
[20:59] <th^2> Kyle__, ok..
[20:59] <rob_____> hay can any of you get to www.facebook.com ??? here inthe UK DNS error are abound
[20:59] <sweetpi> antIP: you likely need to mount them first, not all apps support that
[21:00] <ikonia> rob_____: UK is having core backbone problems at the moment
[21:00] <BluesKaj> yup scriptwarlock ,broken dependencies
[21:00] <th^2> im using netbook remix and did remove things and now i dont have that upper bar.
[21:00] <Kyle__> GregUK: There are two types of cluster-filesystems.  Those which allow multiple servers to simultaniously use one physical drive.  And those where multiple servers all have their own physical drive, and but sync them togeather to look like one shared drive
[21:00] <MrPicard> Hey guys!, i want to purchase a computer/desktop with ubuntu preinstalled. the desktop budget is 314 us dollers
[21:00] <Kyle__> GregUK: The first type is more stable and better tested.
[21:00] <MrPicard> any ideas on a good hardware vendor?
[21:00] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[21:00] <rizzuh> THE INTARWEBS IS BROKEN!
[21:01] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: yeah i know its not the proper way to clean broken but in times like this i have to.. thanks anyway for the time
[21:01] <Oer> wb
[21:01] <ikonia> Please hang in channel  - this will be solved shortly
[21:01] <th^2> im using netbook remix and did remove things and now i dont have that upper bar.
[21:01] <besogon> waw
[21:01] <Crash1hd> Does cron log anything anywhere?
[21:01] <antIP> sweetpi: Thanks, they are mounted
[21:01] <unknownbliss> just the netsplit
[21:01] <Pici> Crash1hd: There will be an entry in /var/log/auth.log for when it runs.
[21:02] <BluesKaj> scriptwarlock, np, glad you fixed it
[21:02] <xangua> !panels | th^2
[21:02] <GregUK> Kyle__: what would you recommended for the first option?
[21:02] <antIP> sweetpi: Or, did you mean, mount the directory in Rythmbox?
[21:02] <scriptwarlock> BluesKaj: got a hard lesson for today... :D
[21:02] <_BEAST> hmm
[21:03] <sweetpi> antIP: no, i meant mount it like, mount -t smbfs etc..., so you cant access even though its mounted?
[21:03] <Kyle__> GregUK: I honestly never got to use them, so I would just go with one that has active develoment.
[21:03] <Kyle__> GregUK: GFS is supposed to be well spuported...and OCFS2 as well, but that's not under heavy development
[21:03] <GregUK> Kyle__: I'll take a look, thanks :)
[21:04] <gabgom> hi
[21:04] <Kyle__> GregUK: NP!
[21:04] <Crash1hd> Pici, the reason I am asking is I have 2 items in my cron tab one that I put in one I didnt but the one I put in I have removed the file so it should be failing was wondeirng if that gets logged anywhere
[21:04] <GregUK> ikonia: thanks for your advice too, I'll take a look into SANs :)
[21:04] <th^2> how i can stop ssh server to start at boot :S i removed it from /etc/rcX but it keeps launching
[21:05] <Crash1hd> Pici, the other was done by mysql but I cant tell if its working or not
[21:05] <antIP> sweetpi - yeah the directory is mounted already. Can't access. In Exaile I can see the directory, but I can't load it in my library - so I can play the files only be going into each folder and selecting them, but I can't use the full libraby functionality of any of my music programs with the shared directory.
[21:05] <Culero_> So my up/down keys don't work anymore. I've xev'ed them, and they don't even register as being themselves. I've checked for proper keyboard layouts, and checked for global hotkeys, yet nothing. Anyone have ideas?
[21:05] <Culero_> http://pastebin.com/K945JDAq This is their output
[21:06] <th^2> how i can stop ssh server to start at boot :S i removed it from /etc/rcX but it keeps launching
[21:06] <sweetpi> antIP: how did you mount it, through places, or from term?
[21:07] <antIP> sweetpi: It automatically mounted with I selected it through the gui
[21:07] <Kogenta> th^2: delete or move the init script (I'm sure I'll be chewed out for saying that.)
[21:07] <Kogenta> /etc/init.d/ssh or /etc/init,d/sshd, I don't remember which
[21:08] <sweetpi> antIP: thats what i meant by actually mounting it, try mounting manually instead of through gui
[21:08] <antIP> sweetpi - Ok, how do I do that?
[21:08] <koglinjg> i am new to ubuntu, how can i make a network profile to connect to a hidden network with no encryption?
[21:09] <sweetpi> antIP: been a while but iirc its, "mount -t smbfs //serverip/share /mountpoint", if you need a username just add "-o username=user"
[21:09]  * Kyle__ tries again.
[21:10] <Kyle__> I have a number of machines locking up with errors like "kernel: [<timestamp>] INFO: task <prog name>:<pid> blocked for more than 120 seconds."
[21:10] <th^2> Kogenta, but how come removing it from runlevels doesnt work?
[21:10] <Kogenta> th^2: Honestly I have no idea.
[21:11] <BluesKaj> th^2, remove from /etc/init.d , perhaps?
[21:11] <antIP> sweetpi what is the "mountpoint"?
[21:12] <antIP> sweetpi: is it the name of the directory?
[21:12] <Kogenta> BluesKaj, I already suggested that. I think he's more worried about why than how.
[21:12] <groovehunter> hi, pls how much takes lucid desktop on usb stick?
[21:12] <sweetpi> antIP: yeah, wherever your wanting to mount it
[21:12] <koglinjg> i can connect to the network using iwconfig essid "Student-Wireless"; dhclient eth1;    but i dont know how to do this in the gui ... any ideas?
[21:12] <groovehunter> how much space i mean
[21:12] <Kyle__> I'm having repeated lockups on multiple machines with 10.04, kernel 2.6.32-24-generic
[21:12] <magaio> has anyone had any problems compiling against cairomm headers?
[21:12] <BluesKaj> th^2, or edit it no-auto in the script
[21:12] <groovehunter> more than 1G ?
[21:12] <Kogenta> Kyle__, what process?
[21:12] <th^2> BluesKaj, i did that
[21:12] <th^2> BluesKaj, but it keeps starting
[21:13] <jrib> !persistence | groovehunter
[21:13] <Cojage> when exactly is the releasedate of 10.10?
[21:13] <Kyle__> Kogenta: It's been a few different ones.
[21:13] <jrib> groovehunter: well that's not what I wanted...
[21:13] <xangua> 10-10-10 Cojage
[21:13] <Cojage> lol ok
[21:13] <th^2> BluesKaj, and used sysv-rc-conf :(
[21:13] <jrib> !usb | groovehunter
[21:13] <doghawk> I need some help setting up a shared directory on a network
[21:13] <BluesKaj> th^2, why are you doing this anyway, if I may be so bold to ask ...it's not a hog
[21:14] <jrib> th^2: ubuntu uses upstart now
[21:14] <antIP> sweetpi: I have no idea if that worked, I just got a list of information regardin the mount command.
[21:14] <Kyle__> Kogenta: to pick one at random, from the logs, npviewer.bin.  These  are always followed eventually by a long Call Trace
[21:14] <antIP> sweetpi: It didn't mount anything.
[21:14] <th^2> BluesKaj, well why would i want useless servers to run?
[21:14] <doghawk> Can anyone help me set up a shared directory on my network?
[21:14] <sweetpi> antIP: what did you type?
[21:15] <Kogenta> Kyle__: that'd be Firefox's flash plugin.
[21:15] <jrib> doghawk: right click -> share
[21:15] <Kyle__> Kogenta: Other ones: sh, gnome-screensaver, apt-get, bash, wnck-applet, vim, ldmgtkgreet.
[21:15] <BluesKaj> if you aren't using ssh then just remove openssh, th^2
[21:15] <doghawk> I'm using Ubuntu Server (command line only)
[21:15] <Kyle__> Kogenta: It's many, many things.
[21:15] <Kogenta> hmm.
[21:15] <antIP> mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/share/sharedmusic
[21:15] <Kogenta> No idea, then. Sounds like a kernel or module problem.
[21:15] <th^2> jrib, meaning?
[21:16] <Kogenta> or possibly hardware
[21:16] <jrib> doghawk: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[21:16] <sweetpi> antIP: you didnt specify the mount point
[21:16] <Kyle__> Kogenta: It happens on multiple boxes.  I think it's a kernel issue to be hoenst.  KNow when the next kernel's out?
[21:16] <jrib> th^2: meaning you should not apply sysv-init concepts to upstart
[21:16] <Cojage> did canonical fixed the random freezes yet?
[21:17] <Cojage> im still on mint now
[21:17] <Kogenta> Kyle__, no. Try checking for updates now anyway.
[21:17] <alaing> what does this code do " egrep :initdefault: /etc/inittab."
[21:17] <th^2> jrib, then what should i do?
[21:17] <Cojage> but mint is a little too limited
[21:17] <Kogenta> aladilas, that finds "initdefault" in /etc/inittab.
[21:17] <jrib> th^2: I don't know what you are trying to accomplish
[21:17] <th^2> jrib, stop ssh server starting
[21:17] <antIP> sweetpi: Oh, I see, the command you typed was cut off in xchat
[21:17] <Kogenta> --(xero@asgard)-(4/pts/5)-(16:04/Sep-23-2010)-(118M RAM available)--
[21:17] <Kogenta> --($:~)-- egrep :initdefault: /etc/inittab
[21:17] <Kogenta> id:2:initdefault:
[21:17] <jrib> th^2: automatically on boot you mean?  But you still want to start it on demand?
[21:17] <Kogenta> not malicious
[21:18] <Kyle__> Kogenta: Did this morning, no newer kernel.
[21:18] <th^2> jrib, thats right
[21:18] <maedox|afk> th^2: sudo update-rc.d -f sshd remove
[21:18] <^Phantom3^> hEY ALL
[21:18] <jrib> th^2: I just add "never" as a condition for ssh to start in /etc/init/ssh.conf
[21:18] <Crash1hd> can anyone tell me how I would know if this cron is working or not? 0 0 * * * /usr/bin/mabackup -d /home/crash1hd/Documents/My -x Darkprince_ profile
[21:18] <alaing> Kogenta: when I ran that it recon no such file or directory
[21:18] <Kyle__> Kogenta: if it helps, almost all the Call Traces start with sync_buffer.
[21:19] <jrib> !away > maedox
[21:19] <antIP> sweetpi: Now it's telling me that the mountpoint does not exist.
[21:19] <jrib> maedox: that wouldn't work
[21:19] <Kogenta> alaing: that means /etc/inittab doesn't exist
[21:19] <^Phantom3^> I'm using an ubuntu 8.10 livecd to recover files from a windows xp hard drive
[21:19] <Kogenta> which is probably bad
[21:19] <archangelpetro> ok, silly question is there an editor whic hwill update in 'real time' a file it's viewing that's being written to?
[21:19] <alaing> I'm using server edition
[21:19] <jrib> Crash1hd: you could check for mail from cron or modify the command so you would get some feedback
[21:19] <sweetpi> antIP: yes, you need to mkdir it
[21:20] <groovehunter> thx jrib , the last page says use 750MB
[21:20] <^Phantom3^> what is the command to search for all files of a certain type ?
[21:20] <jrib> alaing: why do you want to do this?
[21:20] <komradefox> how do i allocate more disk space. i have only allocated 20gb and i want to change it to 100 total
[21:20] <Kogenta> alaing: i logged into a shell server to run that, so I'd assume it should be present on anything that you want to boot properly.
[21:20] <maedox> jrib: why not?
[21:20] <alaing> Kogenta: server edition with gnome-desktop installed
[21:20] <th^2> maedox, lets try it out
[21:20] <^Phantom3^> it's grep something
[21:20] <jrib> ^Phantom3^: define "type"
[21:20] <^Phantom3^> i can't remember the rest
[21:20] <Crash1hd> jrib, alright that brings me back to my original problem If I type mail in ternminal it says I have over 6000 msgs is there any way to get those into a gui mail client
[21:20] <jrib> maedox: why not what?
[21:20] <^Phantom3^> *.mp3 *.wma
[21:20] <^Phantom3^> stuff like that
[21:20] <maedox> jrib: you said: "that wouldn't work" probably to my "update-rc.d ..."
[21:20] <antIP> sweetpi: So I need to make a directory in my home folder where I want it to mount?
[21:21] <jrib> maedox: because ubuntu uses upstart now
[21:21] <sweetpi> antIP: yes, wherever you want
[21:21] <th^2> jrib it think maedox had the right answer for me
[21:21] <alaing> jrib i found a FAQ about booting xampp http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#fsl
[21:21] <^Phantom3^> i want to search the entire drive for mp3 files.
[21:21] <^Phantom3^> How do you do it again?
[21:21] <^Phantom3^> it's sudo grep something
[21:21] <^Phantom3^> i remember that much
[21:21] <jrib> alaing: I already told you how to properly use lamp on ubuntu...
[21:21] <guntbert> !enter | ^Phantom3^
[21:21] <jrib> Crash1hd: look for a guide on reading local system mail with your mail client
[21:21] <sweetpi> antIP: I would put it outside your home dir though, that way you can add it to fstab so it will mount at boot
[21:22] <antIP> sweetpi: awesome. I've never done that before
[21:22] <Crash1hd> jrib, thats what I have been looking for
[21:22] <maedox> jrib: I'm pretty sure it works, but I might be wrong of course.
[21:22] <jrib> ^Phantom3^: on the command line?
[21:22] <^Phantom3^> jrib: yes
[21:22] <jrib> Crash1hd: I don't know what client you use
[21:22] <jrib> ^Phantom3^: use: locate .mp3
[21:22] <Crash1hd> jrib, which ever one came with ubuntu
[21:22] <jrib> Crash1hd: evolution?
[21:22] <alaing> jrib I'm sorry I like to be stubbin (maybe not for my own good in this instance) :)
[21:22] <antIP> sweetpi: Outside of my home? Like under my username in the directory above home?>
[21:22] <Crash1hd> jrib, I dont have an actual mail client setup on ubuntu as I use it as a media server mostly
[21:23] <Crash1hd> jrib, so yeah I would say evolution
[21:23] <bsmith093> is there a way i can verify that a movie file will play on windows media player if i dont have wmp
[21:23] <sweetpi> antIP: no, maybe like /mnt/sharedmusic or /smbmounts/sharedmusic up to you
[21:23] <^Phantom3^> jrib: how do I specify the ntfs drive?
[21:23] <jrib> th^2, maedox: well th^2 said he had already removed it from /etc/rc*.d anyway which is what that command does
[21:23] <Kyle__> How do you go about getting a newer kernel?  Like one out of testing?
[21:23] <bsmith093> specifically the video codec is divx MPEG 4 version 4
[21:23] <Crash1hd> jrib, I think I found something https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/mail-setup.html :) will read that thanks
[21:24] <jrib> ^Phantom3^: pipe to grep
[21:24] <maedox> jrib: OK, I didn't catch that. It's kind of weird to have the config in /etc/init and not /etc/upstart isn't it. :confused:
[21:24] <jrib> Crash1hd: k, it's probably the same but use the one for your version (that's a 9.04 url)
[21:24] <alaing> Kogenta: any ideas?
[21:24] <xangua> Kyle__: you can test a PPA, under your own risk of course
[21:24] <jrib> maedox: hmm?  What are you asking?
[21:25] <alaing> I am trying to run that from putty if it makes any difference
[21:25] <maedox> jrib: forget it. :P  I'll educate myself. ;-)
[21:25] <Crash1hd> jrib, ahh ok :) thanks again
[21:25] <jrib> !upstart | maedox, th^2
[21:25] <antIP> sweetpi. You want to help me out with that? I've never done it before.
[21:25] <Kyle__> xangua: where can I go to find out how to do that?
[21:26] <antIP> sweetpi: I"m in the mnt directory now.
[21:26] <antIP> sweetpi: In the terminal
[21:26] <sweetpi> antIP: do you have it mounted right now? we should check that your music app can access it first
[21:26] <th^2> how come i cant modify the gnome panel :S
[21:26] <antIP> sweetpi: never mind, I figured it out. I've created the directory
[21:26] <Kogenta> alaing, nope, sorry. I'm pretty sure /etc/inittab should exist, though. Its absence will probably lead to a boot/shutdown failure.
[21:27] <antIP> sweetpi: Well, no, I don't have it mounted yet
[21:27] <sweetpi> antIP: ok, mount it and test, then well add it to fstab
[21:28] <jrib> alaing, Kogenta: /etc/inittab isn't required with upstart
[21:28] <xangua> Kyle__: this is the one i use https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/best-intel you can safetly remove it with ppa-purge if it doesn't work fine to you
[21:28] <^Phantom5^> I'm having trouble typing typing the command right, jrib
[21:28] <alaing> Kogenta: what about init.d
[21:28] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: what are you trying?
[21:28] <antIP> sweetpi: first of all you gave me this command: mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mountpoint (I don't know what I'm suposed to put for "share", or does that just remain as "share"?)
[21:28] <^Phantom5^> trying to locate all MP3 files on the ntfs drive
[21:28] <alaing> Kogenta: or just plain  init
[21:29] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: right.  You said you were having trouble typing the command.  What did you try exactly?
[21:29] <sweetpi> antIP: change share to the sharename your trying to access
[21:29] <^Phantom5^> I did 'grep mp3' just like you told me
[21:29] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: no I didn't :/
[21:30] <alaing> I need to find my  default runlevel
[21:30] <Kyle__> xangua: Thank you!
[21:30] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: why don't you just use the gui?
[21:30] <antIP> sweetpi: OK, i tried this: sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/share /mnt/sharedmusic and got this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.... and so on.
[21:30] <jrib> !runlevel | alaing
[21:30] <^Phantom5^> i don't know where the files are located
[21:30] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: umm, you can search with nautilus, can't you?
[21:31] <antIP> sweetpi: I don't know what the share name is. What is a share name? Is it the name of the shared directory, or the sharing computer?
[21:31] <^Phantom5^> someone a year or so ago had me do a grep something something on my own computer and i found all the files with that command
[21:31] <sweetpi> antIP: sorry run "sudo aptitude install smbfs"
[21:31] <guntbert> ^Phantom5^: to find files by their names you use find (not grep)
[21:31] <antIP> sweetpi: ok. done
[21:31] <sweetpi> antIP: its the name of the shared directory on the computer that has the files
[21:32] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: yeah, I can tell you the command, but what's the point?  You're going to come to an irc channel every time you need to search your computer?  Just use the gui
[21:32] <^Phantom5^> so, find *.mp3
[21:32] <^Phantom5^> jrib no i'm not
[21:32] <^Phantom5^> I haven't used ubuntu for over a year and can't remember the commands
[21:32] <antIP> sweetpi: should I try running that command again now that i've downloaded smbfs?
[21:32] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: if you want to use the command line, then you need invest time to learn to use it, not just guess at things
[21:32] <^Phantom5^> is that a fucking crime?
[21:32] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: please watch the language here
[21:32] <guntbert> !language | ^Phantom5^
[21:32] <sweetpi> antIP: no, you need to change "share" to the correct share name
[21:33] <antIP> sweetpi: Yeah, I changed it already
[21:33] <^Phantom5^> so wait a second
[21:33] <sweetpi> antIP: ok try the command now
  find . | grep -i -s -e mp3
[21:33] <^Phantom5^> if i type *.mp3 in the search bar, it will find all mp3 files?
[21:33] <antIP> sweetpi: I typed in the command, it asked me for my password, and now it says Mount Error: Connection Timed Out.
[21:34] <guntbert> !nickspam > SOLTERA_hot
[21:34] <jrib> ^Phantom5^: my guess is you would search for ".mp3" in nautilus
[21:34] <sweetpi> antIP: ok, you either need to remove the password from the share or add "-o username=user" to the mount command
[21:35] <sweetpi> antIP: so something like "mount -t smbfs -o username=antip //serverip/share /mountpoint"
[21:36] <th^2> im using gnome: at top bar there is more stuff that i need. but when i right click them "Remove from panel" and "Move" are not usable. why is that?
[21:36] <sweetpi> antIP: btw I dont know how to automatically mount a share at boot that is password protected
[21:37] <Kyle__> sweetpi: /etc/fstab
[21:37] <frenchy> does ubuntu turn off wifi or put it to sleep when its been inactive for a while?
[21:37] <sweetpi> Kyle__: yeah I know that, but what about the password?
[21:38] <Kyle__> sweetpi: well, depending on the mount type, you either put that in the fstab as well, or refer to a file that contains the password in the fstab entry.
[21:38] <Kyle__> sweetpi: What type of mount is it?
[21:38] <sweetpi> Kyle__: smbfs
[21:38] <alaing> how do i check the services that are running on the server
[21:39] <roshanavand> ubuntu does not know my bluetooth device
[21:39] <Kyle__> Wow. I don't have mount.smb on my box.  I'm surprised.
[21:39] <antIP> sweetpi: Well, now I'm getting permission denied. I guess it doesn't like my password.
[21:39] <Kyle__> sweetpi: Well man mount.smb and see what it says.
[21:39] <roshanavand> I don't see my bluetooth device listed under lsusb
[21:39] <th^2> im using gnome: at top bar there is more stuff that i need. but when i right click them "Remove from panel" and "Move" are not usable. why is that?
[21:40] <sweetpi> antIP: or maybe the username
[21:40] <antIP> sweetpi: Im using the proper username and password for the sharing computer.
[21:41] <roshanavand> ubuntu does not know my bluetooth device
[21:41] <sweetpi> Kyle__: I dont have it either. just giving antIP directions from my head :)
[21:41] <roshanavand> I don't see my bluetooth device listed under lsusb
[21:41] <Kyle__> sweetpi: Ahh :) I see.
[21:41] <Kyle__> sweetpi: I know some mount types let you specify a password file.. so that's the preferred way, put it in fstab, make the file readable only by root, yadda yadda.
[21:41] <bj_990> anybody experience the backslash and pipe keys replaced with  < and > ?
[21:41] <sweetpi> antIP: are you doing this as root?
[21:42] <^Phantom5^> I did that find command, and it didn't work.
[21:42] <jrib> !who | ^Phantom5^
[21:42] <antIP> sweetpi: sudo
[21:43] <antIP> sweetpi: The directory isn't even password protected on the network. I have it set for guest.
[21:43] <fiber> Hi... I'm just installing ubuntu on my laptop and it has a broadcom 4357 network adapter.  the "hardware drivers" program pops up with the correct drivers, but i can't get online to download them! (quite a catch-22)... does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[21:44] <antIP> sweetpi: Mmm. It's strange that the directory is already mounted in the GUI, but then i have to manually mount it in the terminal in order to use it? Why does linux have to different ways to mount?
[21:44] <sweetpi> antIP: change "-o username=user" to "-o guest"
[21:44] <antIP> sweetpi: Well technically, I'm already using it. I mean, I can get into the directory and stuff.
[21:45] <sweetpi> antIP: the one in the gui, not all apps know how to access
[21:45] <anygivenname> I connect to my machine running ubuntu thru remote desktop sharing but I do that from a machine running Windows or from my phone running Win 6.5.....copy & paste of files is not possible...is there anyway I can resolve ?
[21:45] <antIP> sweetpi: Ok, I did that.
[21:45] <antIP> sweetpi: ok
[21:45] <antIP> swetpi: After I ran the command it said, Mapping 'guest' to 'guest,sec=none'
[21:45] <alaing> how do i check the services that are running on the server
[21:46] <antIP> sweetpi: it's mounted now.
[21:46] <antIP> Under mnt
[21:46] <shawnboy> I'm thinking of trying Google Chrome. What's the aptitude package name and is there a difference between using this and getting the .deb file from Google?
[21:46] <sweetpi> antIP: ok test with your music app now
[21:47] <maedox> th^2: I don't know if you figured it out, but I looked into the upstart stuff, and apparently you should set « start on runlevel [!0123456] »  instead of the start on line /etc/init/ssh.conf. It will never start and not give an error, and you can still start it manually.
[21:47] <jamw> shawnboy: i don't think there's any difference - downloading the .deb should add the google repo so it'll be updated
[21:47] <antIP> sweetpi: It doesn't work. I direct Rythmbox to the directory and select "open" and it doesn't import anything. :(
[21:47] <shawnboy> jamw: thanks. so do you know the package name if I just want to use CLI?
[21:48] <roshanavand> shawnboy: there is only difference in the icon and the name
[21:48] <xangua> shawnboy: google chrome is not in ubuntu repositories, chromium is
[21:48] <jamw> nope, i grabbed the .deb from the site
[21:48] <roshanavand> I don't see my bluetooth device listed under lsusb
[21:48] <roshanavand> what should I do
[21:49] <shawnboy> ah. I think it may be chromium-browser
[21:49] <shawnboy> thanks all.
[21:49] <antIP> sweetpi: It's not working in Exaile either.
[21:49] <murlidhar> is there any way where i can force aspect ratio in totem media player ?
[21:50] <antIP> sweetpi: Clementine wont add it to the library either.
[21:50] <bgugi> murlidhar, view > aspect ration
[21:50] <th^2> maedox, i put start on runlevel 0.
[21:50] <murlidhar> i know vlc has an option that does that..but does totem have any such command line option even ?
[21:51] <murlidhar> bgugi: i wanna load any video at a predefined ratio aspect when i load one.
[21:51] <sweetpi> antIP: your doing import folder in rhythmbox?
[21:51] <antIP> Yes
[21:51] <antIP> sweetpi: yes
[21:51] <m_fulder> hello
[21:51] <sweetpi> antIP: and what is the output of "ls /mountpoint"?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> is facebook down in europe?..appears to be down in NA
[21:52] <Blecj`cj> Can anyone here answer my question about OpenOffice?
[21:52] <robertf> BluesKaj: yes it is
[21:52] <xangua> BluesKaj: in all world
[21:52] <bgugi> murlidhar: sorry, in taht case i don't know
[21:52] <BluesKaj> my daughter is complaining :)
[21:52] <antIP> sweetpi: All of the content on my host pc.
[21:52] <Kyle__> BluesKaj: all depends.  Did you ask your question yet?
[21:52] <Kyle__> sorry BluesKaj Mistabbed.
[21:53] <Kyle__> Blecj`cj: All depends.  Ask it.
[21:53] <sweetpi> antIP: what about the permissions of the mountpoint and the files?
[21:53] <antIP> sweetpi: I can pull up the directory manually in Clementine, and Exaile, but they're not added to the library so I can't search the music, or anything like that.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> Kyle__, no need  , no probs here sofar today ...knock on wood
[21:53] <antIP> sweetpi: How do I check permission? ls -all?
[21:53] <Blecj`cj> If I accidentally closed out of a document in OpenOffice, if it was saved as a temporary file, would a backup copy be found somewhere in the OpenOffice or other directory?
[21:53] <maedox> th^2: where did you get that from? I don't think that's recommended because it will start on shutdown/halt.
[21:53] <antIP> sweetpi: It's all drwx------
[21:53] <sweetpi> antIP: yes
[21:54] <th^2> maedox, i figured it out myself...
[21:54] <Kyle__> Blecj`cj: Openoffice autosaves, so it may be there... what type of file was it?  How long was it open?
[21:54] <sweetpi> antIP: and who is the owner? root?
[21:54] <antIP> sweetpi: well, the directory itself is drwxr-xr-x
[21:54] <antIP> (i think)
[21:54] <Blecj`cj> it was a regular Untitled openoffice document named Untitled1
[21:54] <th^2> maedox, but it works now..
[21:54] <m_fulder> Im about to install ubuntu on my HDD I want a partition with 20 GB for the systtem and the rest of my HDD fpr Data...so I've now chosen "Specify partitions manually (advanced)" On my ubuntu setup ...but then which is the system and which is the data .. I can choose between "journal filesystem ext4" or "rotative-storage" (sry transelating from swedish thoes 2 don't know what they can be called in the english version... anyway which
[21:55] <jags> I'm not sure why but in linux my sound system has no bass, the subwoofer does nothing, but in windows it seems to work correctly
[21:55] <antIP> sweetpi: I don't know who the owner is really. It says my username on the first like and then root on the second line.
[21:55] <jags> any ideas?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> well, time to do some chores ...later folks
[21:55] <fiber> Hi... I'm just installing ubuntu on my laptop and it has a broadcom 4357 network adapter.  the "hardware drivers" program pops up with the correct drivers, but i can't get online to download them! (quite a catch-22)... does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[21:55] <m_fulder> I gues I should choose the "journal..." for my System and the "rotative.." for Data?
[21:55] <sweetpi> antIP: paste one of the lines for a file
[21:56] <mkquist> m_fulder: swap?
[21:56] <jdolan> has the nfs-client package gone away in recent releases?
[21:56] <antIP> sweetpi: drwx------   4 adam adam    0 2010-09-12 18:38 Interpol
[21:56] <Kyle__> Blecj`cj: Was it ever saved at all?
[21:56] <antIP> sweetpi: So, I guess my user owns them. Is that right?
[21:56] <sweetpi> antIP: right
[21:57] <m_fulder> mkquist : yes what is swap for?
[21:57] <sweetpi> antIP: are you running the app as the same user?
[21:57] <Kyle__> Blecj`cj: Did it not offer for you to save it whenyou closed it?
[21:57] <mkquist> m_fulder: its like memory on the hard drive
[21:57] <mkquist> m_fulder: not to be used to store anything
[21:57] <mkquist> m_fulder: system would be the "/" folder
[21:58] <m_fulder> hm..but I want to partition the disc so I can use both partitions
[21:58] <mkquist> m_fulder: or "root"
[21:58] <m_fulder> aha
[21:58] <m_fulder> so both should be ext4
[21:58] <m_fulder> then the System is mounted on /
[21:58] <YellowTree> Hi getting following error, while going to localhost : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Y3j3z1vt
[21:58] <m_fulder> and my another partition on whatever I want
[21:58] <mkquist> m_fulder: swap can be like a gigabyte if you want
[21:58] <Blecj`cj> Kyle__ No, it didn't
[21:58] <bgugi> i have a question. I have ctrl+alt+home/end/pgup/pgdwn set up in the gnome keyboard shortcuts dialogue to control my media players. in addition to the keyboard, i sometimes like to use a wiimote through wminput, but as far as i can tell wminput can only associate a single key to each button. to get around this until now, i've used odd xf86 keys (like bassboost) to send "rhythmbox-client --play-pause" and such to rhythmbox. currently, i'm
[21:58] <bgugi>  using rhythmbox and pithos interchangeably (depends on whether i have internet) basically, i'm wondering if i can: a) map more than one key to the gnome "play" command, b) map one key into multiple (xf86bassboost = ctrl+alt+home) or c) something else?
[21:58] <m_fulder> do I even need swap mkquist ?
[21:58] <mkquist> m_fulder: you can store the user data on another partition if you like
[21:58] <Blecj`cj> Kyle__: No, it was never saved at all
[21:58] <mkquist> m_fulder: depends on how much ram you have really
[21:59] <mkquist> m_fulder: maybe not these days
[21:59] <antIP> sweetpi: Well, I'm running the app as the same username, but on a different computer.
[21:59] <m_fulder> mkquist RAM? :O...can't I just make to partitions and it will work?
[21:59] <Kyle__> Blecj`cj: You may be SOL.  Sorry.
[21:59] <anygivename> is there a way to exchange files when i am connected to ubuntu from a windows machine through remote sharing ?
[21:59] <Kyle__> if it was ever saved, then it autosaves from what I've seen.
[21:59] <sweetpi> antIP: "umount /mountpoint" them mount it again with "-o guest,umask=022" see if that makes a difference
[21:59] <antIP> sweetpi: I'm running rythmbox on my laptop and trying to access my shared dir on my desktop. Both PCs have the same username.
[22:00] <mkquist> m_fulder: 2 partitions? yes, it would work fine, but I thought you wanted the user on a different partition too?
[22:00] <jeand> bonsoir
[22:00] <m_fulder> mkquist the user? No I just want 2 partiotions one for system one for data
[22:00] <YellowTree> Hi getting following error, while going to localhost : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Y3j3z1vt
[22:01] <mgolisch> do what it tells you then
[22:01] <jeand> bonsoir
[22:01] <m_fulder> mkquist so I've don like this:  dev/sda:    dev/sda1: ext4:  mount: "/" ... dev/sda2: ext4:   mount: "/media/Data"
[22:01] <m_fulder> this should work right?
[22:01] <xangua> BluesKaj: tell your daughter she can conect to facebook with any jabber client ;) http://ur1.ca/m7wa (a little late, losted connection)
[22:01] <YellowTree> Well, apache2 is working correct
[22:01] <antIP> sweetpi: ok I did that.
[22:02] <mkquist> m_fulder: the "/" one will have the system on it then, and data will be whatever youd like
[22:02] <mkquist> m_fulder: works fine
[22:02] <th^2> argh update manager tries to do install of cups!!
[22:02] <Oer> YellowTree, is it ? error says More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[22:02] <m_fulder> mkquist whatever I like = storage disc?
[22:02] <m_fulder> mkquist  then fine :)
[22:02] <sweetpi> antIP: can you add them now?
[22:02] <th^2> how do i tell it that i dont want to install cups
[22:02] <mkquist> m_fulder: yep
[22:02] <snowveil> th^2, why don't you want cups?
[22:02] <YellowTree> where to find error log :/
[22:02] <snowveil> just uncheck it in update manager
[22:02] <Kyle__> th^2: Are you running ubuntu desktop or server?
[22:03] <th^2> snowveil, i have no use to it
[22:03] <th^2> Kyle__, desktop
[22:03] <p1und3r> does anyone know how to logout a user from a script?
[22:03] <Kyle__> th^2: CUPS really doesn't eat up much memory or CPU at all.  It doesn't get in the way
[22:03] <antIP> sweetpi: It's remounted, but I still can't access it.
[22:03] <snowveil> also, "sudo apt-get remove cupsd"
[22:03] <Kyle__> th^2: Then cups was installed by default.
[22:03] <mkquist> YellowTree: var/log
[22:03] <antIP> sweetpi: I mean, I still can't add the directory to my library.
[22:03] <th^2> Kyle__, yes and i removed it. now it wants to do a new install.
[22:03] <m_fulder> mkquist: cool but   now whebn pressing next which disc should I have chosen  the whole sda or only sda1 ?
[22:04] <mkquist> YellowTree: of you can use the 'log viewer'
[22:04] <sweetpi> antIP: you can play files from the mount point we made, but not add the entire mountpoint to the library, correct?
[22:04] <Kyle__> th^2: probably because one of the things that was updated requires it.  Why do you want it gone so badly?
[22:04] <mkquist> m_fulder: for?
[22:04] <antIP> sweetpi: Yup
[22:04] <Oer> YellowTree, in //var/log/apache2/error.log ?
[22:04] <th^2> Kyle__, i dont want useless programs
[22:05] <sweetpi> antIP: this makes no sense :p.. give me a min ill test here
[22:05] <Kyle__> th^2: There are plenty of other, more useless, more intrusive programs that ubuntu comes with.
[22:05] <p1und3r> how can i make a user logout from with a script?
[22:05] <m_fulder> mkquist ah nvm doesn't matter I think .. I thought that the one that I select in there there will the OS be installed...but it should automaticly choose the right "/" shouldn't it?
[22:05] <Kyle__> th^2: If you don't want useless programs, you need to look for another distro.  Really.
[22:05] <th^2> Kyle__, yes and im gettin rid of them
[22:05] <mkquist> m_fulder: right
[22:05]  * Kyle__ sighs
[22:05] <erUSUL> p1und3r: kill all his processes ?
[22:05] <SubCool> what a good program for recording your desktop?
[22:06] <erUSUL> !screencast
[22:06] <SubCool> i need to show someone that im following the process correctly.
[22:06] <p1und3r> erUSUL: good idea :p let me try that
[22:06] <th^2> Kyle__, that is true. used gentoo for a long time. but i really hate to install new distros. i pick one and stick to it
[22:06] <SubCool> erUSUL, ok- any recommended?
[22:06] <YellowTree> how to view files in terminal
[22:06] <erUSUL> SubCool: dunno; never done a screencast myself
[22:06] <sweetpi> antIP: I dont even have samba setup on this network.
[22:06] <Kyle__> th^2: As much as ubuntu annoys me sometimes, I use it because I want up to date packages I don't have to compile myself.
[22:07] <erUSUL> YellowTree: a text file? « less file »
[22:07] <SubCool> sweetpi, like it would work- haha
[22:07] <YellowTree> yes
[22:07] <NeKit> is Ubuntu Minimal only called Minimal? it already too 567 Mb and still downloading something
[22:07] <brandon420> guys need some help, just buillt a new computer, and cant get anything to install on it
[22:07] <Kyle__> th^2: If I recall correctly, any-and-every program that prints in ubuntu, is linked to cups.
[22:07] <sweetpi> antIP: if you want we can take this to pm and Ill see whats wrong
[22:07] <NeKit> *took
[22:07] <th^2> Kyle__, that is true. ie with slackware you have to compile like everything because repos are so small
[22:07] <SubCool> THANKS!
[22:07] <sweetpi> SubCool: true, I hate samba.
[22:07] <bgugi_> nekit: nything at all, or just ubuntu
[22:08] <Kyle__> th^2: CUPS is pretty cool, work keeping around even.   I've done exctly this way before and then when I booted up after the installation there was written Verifing .... and the OS didn't start up :S ... maybe it will go better this time though :P
[22:08] <brandon420> can anyone help me?!
[22:08] <NeKit> just I was recomended it for 1 Gb partition install
[22:08] <p1und3r> erUSUL: I tried kill -9 -1, is there a better command for this?
[22:09] <erUSUL> p1und3r: why -9; -9 is dangerous.
[22:09] <mkquist> m_fulder: sometimes you have to fiddle with grub2, i've found it can get a little confused
[22:09] <jrib> !startup | th^2
[22:09] <Kyle__> th^2: to run when you log in?  Well there is the GUI... I used that today since .login isn't respected (grr!).
[22:09] <YellowTree> how to view files in terminal ( textfiles )
[22:09] <antIP> sweetpi: I just realized that I can't even play the actual files. Can brows the directory but I can't even see the individual .mp3 files.
[22:09] <Kyle__> th^2: But using it without a gui would be what I really want.
[22:09] <p1und3r> erUSUL: even kill -1 doesn't exit me from the ssh session tho =/
[22:10] <th^2> Kyle__, i dont want to learn GUI ways to do things
[22:10] <sweetpi> antIP: chown adam.adam /mountpoint
[22:10] <jrib> YellowTree: less to read, nano to edit
[22:10] <sweetpi> antIP: *sudo
[22:10] <Ekips> Hrm, do you want the script to die p1und3r?
[22:10] <p1und3r> Ekips: yeah i need the script to die and user to be logged out
[22:10] <soloslinger> So I believe I am goin to create a mythbuntu machine.  Can anyone give me any advice on hardware or installation gotchas that I would be helpful to know?
[22:11] <Ekips> "kill" kills decently written software
[22:11] <Kyle__> th^2: Me neither, but this is a very gnome-specific distro sometimes.
[22:11] <akki_> my sounds r not working
[22:11] <Ekips> If you have to use kill -9, something is wrong with the script
[22:11] <erUSUL> p1und3r: sudo pkill -u usernamehere
[22:11] <Kyle__> Ekips: kill sends a signal to software: decently written software handles the signal appropriately.
[22:11] <p1und3r> erUSUL: ok lemme try that 1 out
[22:11] <th^2> Kyle__, too true. this is too unfree for me
[22:11] <Ekips> I just said that
[22:11] <Kyle__> Ekips: Poorly wirtten software will only handle the -9 flag decently :)
[22:11] <Ekips> I Just said that too :
[22:11] <Kyle__> s/flag/signal/g
[22:12] <Kyle__> Ekips: Ah yes
[22:12] <Kyle__> th^2: sorry dude.
[22:12] <Ekips> Yeah yeah, I know what a SIGHUP is etc, I've written my fair share of C
[22:12] <brandon420> guys i cant get a os to install on my new computer..... ideas?
[22:12] <erUSUL> No software can handle -9; no matter how well or how bad is written
[22:12] <Ekips> Indeed
[22:12] <Ekips> It's not handled by the program
[22:12] <Ekips> But ok
[22:12] <p1und3r> erUSUL/Ekips: pkill -u $USER still keeps my session open
[22:12] <Ekips> Let's not discuss technicalities :)
[22:12] <NeKit> brandon420: what you can't do exactly?
[22:13] <Ekips> p1und3r: The script is prolly outputting to your tty
[22:13] <YellowTree> jrib, how to close it again ?
[22:13] <Kyle__> Ahh ok, good point.
[22:13] <jrib> YellowTree: what are you using? less or nano?
[22:13] <brandon420> NeKit, it loads the bios, and just stops.
[22:13] <YellowTree> less
[22:13] <p1und3r> Ekips: i don't follow
[22:14] <p1und3r> Ekips: yes it is outputting to the terminal.. but i need to log the user out from it
[22:14] <erUSUL> p1und3r: type exit; hit enter
[22:14] <Ekips> In short: End it the way it's supposed to or -9 it if it doesn't respond to kill
[22:14] <Ekips> Hrm, won't help if it forks and outputs to tty
[22:14] <jrib> YellowTree: q
[22:14] <p1und3r> Ekips/erUSUL: yeah but when you run the script "bash <scriptname>" it only exit; the script and not the terminal
[22:14] <antIP> sweetpi: I did that
[22:15] <p1und3r> Ekips/erUSUL: and you can't exit&&logout or anything cause ur out of the script already
[22:15] <antIP> sweetpi: nothing has changed
[22:15] <sweetpi> antIP: pm?
[22:15] <Ekips> I'm kinda pondering what that script does by now
[22:15] <antIP> sweetpi ok
[22:15] <erUSUL> p1und3r: what is the purpose of the script?
[22:15] <Ekips> heh
[22:15] <Ekips> Seems I'm not the only one
[22:16] <p1und3r> erUSUL: the purpose is for a user to have a menu in unix, with an option to log out of the server, but I can't use exec bash <scriptname> and be cheap :p
[22:16] <YellowTree> ty
[22:16] <Ekips> Oh, you want a grahical exit option offered to users then
[22:16] <akki_> hie
[22:16] <nikon_> a
[22:16] <akki_> help me
[22:16] <Ekips> Which kills the menu and the session
[22:16] <erUSUL> p1und3r: what's wrong with the user using « exit » or « logout » himself?
[22:17] <Ekips> They are users erUSUL
[22:17] <erUSUL> herself*
[22:17] <Ekips> Don't expect too much from that side :p
[22:17] <p1und3r> Ekips/erUSUL: because script is meant for someone who knows nothing of unix
[22:17] <Ekips> Of course
[22:17] <p1und3r> Ekips: and yeah to wut u said before
[22:17] <Ekips> hrm
[22:17] <Ekips> How do they login?
[22:17] <Ekips> Locally?
[22:17] <p1und3r> Ekips/erUSUL: i've tried, exit, logout, kill -1, kill -9 -1, pkill -u $USER
[22:17] <p1und3r> through shh
[22:18] <p1und3r> erm ssh
[22:18] <erUSUL> p1und3r: it makes no sense; they can use an überscript from a menu. but they can not use the syymple « exit » unix command?
[22:18] <Ekips> erUSUL: They prolly haven't ever seen a CLI
[22:18] <th^2> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8278927/gnome.png why is this? i cant modify anything :(
[22:18] <p1und3r> erUSUL: yeah, it's a school thing.. i just can't figure it out
[22:18] <slow-motion> n8
[22:18] <p1und3r> erUSUL: in real life, exec bash <script> and using exit would work wouldn't it?         S    17:38   0:00 sshd: spike@pts/3
[22:19] <Ekips> spike@unetdev:~$ kill 30030
[22:19] <Ekips> -> session dead ;)
[22:20] <erUSUL> p1und3r: you do not need a script « exit » and logout been there all this time why reinventing the wheel ????
[22:20] <p1und3r> erUSUL: cause my professors a weenie i guess
[22:20] <p1und3r> ewook: to make a menu for a user that can log him out of ssh
[22:20] <m_fulder> when the installation got to 100% there was a restart needed so pressed the restart button on screan ... there was some text on the screen, the CD got out but now there was a test spamming on screen saying I/O error:S so I should manually restart now or what mkquist ??
[22:20] <ewook> p1und3r: a menu within the ssh-session?!
[22:20] <m_fulder> text*
[22:20] <ewook> gebus.
[22:20] <p1und3r> ewook: yeah :)
[22:20] <Ekips> ewook: ncurses?
[22:20] <ewook> Ekips: yeah..
[22:20] <Ekips> Why not?
[22:21] <p1und3r> it's a text menu with a while loop, nothing crazy
[22:21] <Ekips> In the earlier days of DOS people used to have .bat based menu's to start apps
[22:21] <p1und3r> it's just exiting the ssh session :|
[22:21] <ewook> Ekips: earlier? :P
[22:22] <Ekips> Yeah, in the later days they had windows 3.0/3.1
[22:22] <Ekips> Which wasn't an OS, just a shell on top of DOS
[22:22] <ewook> Ekips: I'm pulling your chain... those still exists but not really kicking of the programs anymore (or, shortcuts works in the same way I guess ;) )
[22:22] <Ekips> Ah
[22:22] <m_fulder> ok so now I've complete the installation but when I bootup there's just written Verifining DMI pool data............ but the OS doesn't start up why is that??? :(
[22:22] <p1und3r> ewook/erUSUL/Ekips: killall sshd, works lol so ugly
[22:22] <Ekips> p1und3r: Uhm
[22:23] <Ekips> Don't
[22:23] <Ekips> Really, don't :p
[22:23] <Ekips> If your root uses that menu, heh
[22:23] <p1und3r> Ekips: hahha i know
[22:23] <Ekips> Be very careful with killall
[22:23] <ewook> p1und3r: to kill the session, just kill the bash for the session ^^
[22:23] <ewook> p1und3r: or, the shell rather.
[22:23] <Ekips> Yeah, ewook, but people could launch multiple shells
[22:23] <p1und3r> ewook: how do i do that, because I couldn't kill the 1 BASH PID from ps
[22:23] <Ekips> tcsh in a bash etc
[22:24] <th^2> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8278927/gnome.png why is this? i cant modify anything :(
[22:24] <Jordan_U> p1und3r: What is wrong with "exec script"?
[22:24] <Ekips> It's complicated
[22:24] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: im not allowed :p
[22:24] <ewook> Ekips: yes? but we can't track that if we don't track the user's history tight.
[22:24] <Ekips> Well, it's a bunch of errors chanied together
[22:24] <nvucinic> hi, anyone noticed that countdown counter #2 is stucked @ 25 days ?
[22:25] <Ekips> ewook: You could kill the users ssh session on the pty he's on
[22:25] <Ekips> Always a hit ;)
[22:25] <ewook> :P
[22:25] <Jordan_U> p1und3r: So we're doing your homework for you or is there a non-artificial reason for that restriction?
[22:25] <Ekips> Hey, it's interesting homework
[22:25] <jrib> th^2: find ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf ~/.config ! -user $USER
[22:25] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: ur doing my homework
[22:25] <Azendale> Is there a way to limit a vncveiwer program in the number it bits per pixel? I'm running it through a ssh tunnel and it tries to go full color when the connection isn't that fast.
[22:25] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: but i don't think it involves anything complicated.. like parsing ps with awk or anything..
[22:26] <Ekips> Yeah, that would work
[22:26] <Jordan_U> p1und3r: Are you allowed to colaborate with others on this assignment?
[22:26] <p1und3r> no1 knows awk yet, there has to be an easier way
[22:26] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: yeah
[22:26] <th^2> jrib, i just deleted all of those
[22:26] <mgolisch> killall sshd? :)
[22:26] <jrib> th^2: erm, what?
[22:26] <Ekips> Jordan_U: A teacher who teaches this but doesn't allow you to use the internet should be fired
[22:26] <p1und3r> thats what i did, and it works mgolisch.. but its ugly
[22:27] <p1und3r> and as another person said
[22:27] <p1und3r> if root uses the menu
[22:27] <p1und3r> lol
[22:27] <Ekips> Yeah :p
[22:27] <th^2> jrib, wanted default gnome back
[22:27] <Ekips> I've been there
[22:27] <jrib> th^2: have you logged out and back in since doing that?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> Ekips: There's a difference between using the internet and asking "experts" directly.
[22:27] <Ekips> Well, I did a killall eggdrop on a shellserver as root, which was fun too
[22:27] <Ekips> He isn't really asking "directly"
[22:27] <atunahan> hello people
[22:27] <Ekips> And next to that, the "experts" don't even have a clear solution
[22:28] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: i'm not amateur, I know my way around linux and i've helped people in this channel before
[22:28] <atunahan> ı am newbie of ubuntu
[22:28] <Ekips> I'm rather new here
[22:28] <p1und3r> Jordan_U: it's not like im a total noob asking for u to do my homework
[22:28] <Ekips> In the channel, that is :p
[22:28] <mgolisch> p1und3r: use pgrep -u $USER sshd|xargs kill -9
[22:28] <mgolisch> oh that doenst solve the problem either i guess
[22:28] <Ekips> mgolisch: One more check needed there in case the user is logged in twice
[22:28] <mgolisch> if you runt it as rooot
[22:28] <atunahan> i want to ask for some help about podcasting itunes clips
[22:29] <Ekips> Ah, right, kills the sshd heh
[22:29] <Ekips> Well, one could add an if
[22:29] <Ekips> No shame, all scripts/programs have a hardcoded check on uid 0
[22:29] <atunahan> how to watch itunes clips on ubuntu
[22:29] <mgolisch> acknopper: whats itunes clips?
[22:29] <p1und3r> I know the professor doesn't expect anyone to know what pgrep -u $USER sshd|xargs kill -9 does
[22:30] <Ekips> lol
[22:30] <p1und3r> he hasn't even taught piping, so I'm not sure what he's look for
[22:30] <p1und3r> lol
[22:30] <nvucinic> >>>> 1 more time:  hi, anyone noticed that countdown counter #2 is stucked @ 25 days ?
[22:30] <atunahan> which kind of software i should use
[22:30] <Ekips> Check your notebook or something
[22:30] <p1und3r> yea ill look at previous labs, thanks for your suggestions guys
[22:30] <Ekips> He prolly gave an easy (crappy) solution
[22:30] <cert_> hi
[22:30] <p1und3r> yeah lol
[22:30] <rww> nvucinic: works fine here
[22:30] <m_fulder> nice my new ubuntu installation worked now :)
[22:31] <p1und3r> if i find it, ill let u know how crappy it is
[22:31] <p1und3r> afk for dinner :)
[22:31] <Ekips> hehe
[22:31] <Ekips> Feel fre
[22:31] <Ekips> e
[22:31] <Ekips> Enjoy
[22:31] <FloodBot2> Ekips: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <cert_> how can i get ffmpeg-devel to compile xbmc with external libs?
[22:31] <mgolisch> cert_: tell the configure script the location of the libs?
[22:31] <Ekips> Yes, dear botlike being, I'll chat there from now on and redirect everyone inhere to that site every 5 seconds
[22:31] <nvucinic> rww: it's showing 25 to me ...
[22:31] <Ekips> If all will comply
[22:31] <Jordan_U> p1und3r: "pkill -s 0" sounds about right.
[22:31] <Ekips> He isn't that far, clearly
[22:32] <cert_> mgolisch: mmhh
[22:32] <th^2> argh all my gnome panel things are grey. anybody know what is causing this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8278927/gnome.png
[22:32] <nvucinic> ubuntu.com/community/countdown -- option 2 - 25 days
[22:32] <mgolisch> th^2: lockdown?
[22:32] <erUSUL> th^2: pkill gnome-panel
[22:32] <rww> Ekips: stop pressing Enter repeatedly --> no more notes from floodbot.
[22:32] <Ekips> nvucinic: Moonphase and rotation of the earth, at a guess
[22:32] <atunahan> sorry people, i bored of you, could you help me for podcasting itunes clips downloading
[22:32] <Ekips> rww: I don't press enter that often?
[22:32] <xangua> th^2: just change your icon theme...
[22:32] <rww> Ekips: yes you do
[22:32] <rww> nvucinic: shows 17 here
[22:32] <erUSUL> !ipod
[22:32] <Ekips> Hm, only there because I had to correct myself :)
[22:33] <Ekips> And I was kidding, sigh, I wasn't seriously whining at a bot
[22:33] <Ekips> Unless that's the one that secretly passed the Turing test
[22:33] <diverted> can someone help me with this errormessage please: http://pastebin.com/vikzMaFM     I got it when trying to install chuck, an audio programming language
[22:34] <Ekips> #
[22:34] <Ekips> ugen_xxx.cpp:43:21: error: sndfile.h: No such file or directory
[22:34] <nvucinic> ok, it works now :)
[22:34] <Ekips> So your pakage depends on that file
[22:34] <Ekips> I'm thinking libsndfile
[22:35] <diverted> Ekips, yes but i downloaded all packages they said i need to install it. so how do i find out what package the file is in=
[22:35] <diverted> Ekips, oh thanks ill try that
[22:35] <atunahan> what kind of software should be used for downloading itunes podcasting clips
[22:35] <glebihan> diverted: try installing libsnbfile1
[22:35] <xangua> atunahan: rhythmbox, banshee¿
[22:36] <Jordan_U> diverted: apt-file search
[22:36] <grifo74> i try to share my internet 3g to other pc any help
[22:36] <Ekips> diverted: As you're compiling from source you likely need the -dev package too
[22:36] <diverted> yes im installing it atm
[22:37] <cert_> mgolisch: i'm trying with CFLAGS=-I/usr/include/libavcodec but does not work
[22:37] <m_fulder> anyway I've now got one HDD partition1 = OS  partition2 = Data-disc ... then I have one external HDD (USB) and one more internal with an old OS ... now my porblem is that I can't copy files from my external USB-HDD to my internal second partiotion Data-disc because "I don't have permissions to copy that file " :S .. Im loged in as root why is that???
[22:37] <Jordan_U> diverted: You realize that chuck is in the repositories, correct?
[22:37] <well_laid_lawn> !ics | grifo74
[22:37] <avi_> Hey all, what is a good solution for syncing my iPod touch with Ubuntu?
[22:38] <aeon-ltd> avi_: gtkpod?
[22:38] <diverted> Jordan_U, hmmm.. guess its always worth looking there first. no i didnt..
[22:38] <Ekips> Heh
[22:38] <avi_> aeon-ltd, Can that do iOS devices?
[22:39] <aeon-ltd> avi_: not sure, but i gotta say apple is really good at limiting options
[22:39] <erUSUL> !ipod > avi_
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> avi_: one way i do know, is jailbreaking and using ssh and/or open up a ftp server on the ipod touch. however i highly unreccommended
[22:40] <avi_> aeon-ltd, That's for sure. A linux native client would be really nice. And it's a shame they don't have one because millions use Linux.
[22:40] <Ekips> Wow
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> avi_: those millions are like 1% though
[22:40] <Ekips> They don't?
[22:40] <Ekips> Hrm, how do those things connect to an apple?
[22:40] <_BEAST> lol
[22:40] <_BEAST> rofl
[22:40] <well_laid_lawn> !lol
[22:41] <aeon-ltd> Ekips: on the back of the apple, if you look closely theres a usb port
[22:41] <Ekips> Now that's a rule I can agree with
[22:41] <avi_> aeon-ltd, Millions is millions. And this is Apple, they have tens of thousands of engineers. Surely 20 or so could be tasked with writing one and they could do it in no time at all.
[22:41] <Ekips> aeon-ltd: Funky, it's on my linux boxes too it seems
[22:42] <Ekips> My point was: If it works on OSX, why not on *nix?
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> avi_: yeah, but rewriting itunes and regular bug fixes to fit with simiultaneous windows and mac releases is gonna cost
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Ekips: DRM
[22:42] <Ekips> Heh, porting it from OSX to *nix should be trivial
[22:42] <erUSUL> !rockbox
[22:42] <Ekips> Aaah
[22:42] <avi_> aeon-ltd, Because Apple is strapped for cash :) They have literally tens of billions sitting in the bank collecting interest. It would be a drop in the bucket.
[22:42] <Ekips> sigh
[22:42] <Ekips> Got it Jordan_U
[22:43] <Ekips> Yeah, I'm just saying it shouldn't be much work technically
[22:43] <aeon-ltd> avi_: they'd rather spend it on PR
[22:43] <boatdink> can somebody tell me how to reset my mouse config. all the settings are screwed up
[22:43] <avi_> aeon-ltd, No doubt :)
[22:43] <numberGrey> is there a simple chmod command to not allow a file to be served by a webserver but accessable to scripts on the server?
[22:44] <fordfasterr> Q: what would prevent me from viewing a samba share from ubuntu desktop that works fine from an xp host in virtualbox on the same machine?
[22:44] <Ekips> numberGrey: chmod has 3 entities you can set 3 different permissions for
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Ekips: They work actively to break existing solutions with updates.
[22:44] <Ekips> Jordan_U: I see :s That's sad and completely wrong in many ways imo
[22:44] <numberGrey> Ekips: any recommended links on the topic?
[22:44] <erUSUL> numberGrey: wrong level. you have to configure that in the webserver. not in the filesystem
[22:45] <Ekips> numberGrey: That's everyone, the group and the user where the modes are read, write and execute
[22:45] <numberGrey> damn thats what I was hoping I didn't have to do, don't have permissions
[22:45] <Ekips> So if you want the user to be able to access his files and the webserver to read it, your "spots" are gone
[22:45] <Ekips> Which is indeed why you need to config it elsewhere
[22:46] <Ekips> erUSUL broke off my nicely built up explanation I guess :p
[22:46] <fordfasterr> i am using SME server, with user accounts.  I can type the username and password in the xp box and get a connection, but not from ubuntu via the "places > connect to server > windows share " path.
[22:46] <numberGrey> essentially I was hoping to block files from being served unless they are logged in.  This system is setup with php where everything is in the public folder.
[22:46] <glebihan> numberGrey: that should be done by putting the files outside of the server tree
[22:48] <Wazzzap> Watch my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7crs3Ib6ZVI
[22:49] <Ekips> Get lost
[22:50] <jrib> th^2: you ask for help and then don't answer me :/
[22:50] <xbonesx> ok so i just did a fresh install and would like to know how to put these packages http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7981/22245829.png from the update manager on a cd for use on a offline computer
[22:50] <DragonUbuntu> hey all
[22:51] <Jordan_U> !aptonCD | xbonesx
[22:51] <xangua> xbonesx: aaah...install updates¿
[22:51] <avi_> hey DragonUbuntu
[22:51] <xangua> ooh didn¿t read*
[22:51] <DragonUbuntu> anyone use songbird for an audio player? im having trouble finding an installer or binary for it
[22:51] <aeon-ltd> DragonUbuntu: development stopped for linux, sorry
[22:51] <erUSUL> DragonUbuntu: they stopped offering linux binaries
[22:51] <m_fulder> I don't have permission to create a new file on one partition of my HDD why is that? :(:(
[22:52] <erUSUL> DragonUbuntu: i read about a fork somewhere ....
[22:52] <Ekips> It's not really useful atm DragonUbuntu
[22:52] <erUSUL> !addingfs | m_fulder
[22:52] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: doing that will include those packages from the update manager, your positive?
[22:52] <Ekips> Amarok works I guess
[22:52] <aeon-ltd> DragonUbuntu: yeah a browser and separate music player is much better
[22:52] <xangua> DragonUbuntu: you can install the latest songbird with theese repositories http://www.getdeb.net/
[22:52] <Kyle__> Who manages ubottu?
[22:52] <xangua> 1.8 i believe
[22:52] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: No, I don't know the exact interface as I've never used it personally.
[22:52] <kelvie_> apt-proxy seems to be at least 5 years old... is it still useable today?
[22:53] <aeon-ltd> Kyle__: seeing as this is the official channel, i assume canonical
[22:53] <Kyle__> Because they _really_ need to add, "Don't add an external drive into the same volume group your / is on from"
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Kyle__: #ubuntu-bots-devel
[22:53] <xbonesx> so how should i do the updates so that i can use the aptoncd program?
[22:53] <m_fulder> erUSUL so how do I do if I want a partition that can store my data-files?
[22:53] <erUSUL> Kyle__: factoids are added by the ops. #ubuntu-ops
[22:53] <WXZ> is there a clean version of ubuntu?
[22:53] <WXZ> by that I mean where it doesn't install a bunch of programs for you?
[22:54] <Ekips> Hrm, Kyle__ might be right there :p
[22:54] <Jordan_U> !minimal | WXZ
[22:54] <Kyle__> erUSUL: Jordan_U: thanks.
[22:54] <m_fulder> erUSUL,  and I want it to be a linux-HDD
[22:54] <Ekips> WXZ: There's a minimal one
[22:54] <Ekips> ah
[22:54] <erUSUL> m_fulder: you can 1) chown/chmod the mount point to apropiate permissions 2) do that for folders inside the partition
[22:54]  * Kyle__ has had it happen when he was too tired to be paying enough attention.  The "I did WHAT?!" factor in the morning was amazing.
[22:54] <brandon420> guys, i cant seem to get my new computer to install ubunut, it wont even boot from the live cd, ideas?
[22:54] <Ekips> brandon420: Does it boot from any other CD?
[22:55] <acerimmer> brandon420: alternate install .iso?
[22:55] <erUSUL> !minimal | WXZ
[22:55] <brandon420> bi
[22:55] <brandon420> no it wont boot from anything, and i have tried 2 cds ordered from ubuntu
[22:55] <m_fulder> erUSUL,  I've done sudo chmod -R 744 /media/Data .. won't that be a reqursvie chmod for all files/folders inside media/Data? But still I can't create / copy a folder into media/Data :S
[22:55] <WXZ> thanks erUSUL, Jordan_YOU, Ekips
[22:55] <brandon420> acerimmer, Ekips
[22:55] <brandon420> ^^
[22:55] <Ekips> brandon420: Probably your bios boots from HD first
[22:55] <acerimmer> brandon420: can u boot from usb?
[22:55] <Ekips> brandon420: huh?
[22:56] <Ekips> Ah, RD
[22:56] <Ekips> heh
[22:56] <jkv> brandon420, set the boot order in your BIOS setup
[22:56] <spGrob> brandon420, have you set the boot seq in BIOS
[22:56] <brandon420> acerimmer, Ekips , i havent tried a usb, and i have it set to boot my cd drive first
[22:56] <Ekips> Ah, heh
[22:56] <brandon420> it just says insert media, and hit enter.
[22:56] <erUSUL> m_fulder: becouse the owner is root, so you want 775 or some such ( doing sudo chgrp users /mount/point )
[22:57] <Ekips> We can be fairly certain the CDs aren't all broken
[22:57] <belkinsa> Does OpenOffice have a IRC channel?
[22:57] <Ekips> So it's either your bios or CD drive that is
[22:57] <acerimmer> brandon420: silly? but which version do you have: 32 bit/64 bit? and does that match you machine?
[22:57] <Ekips> Ow, "acerimmer" is a nick
[22:57] <Ekips> Right, got it now
[22:57] <acerimmer> >>:)
[22:58] <Ekips> After being called an "ace rimmer" twice... :p
[22:58] <acerimmer> :(
[22:58] <brandon420> its the ubuntu 9.10 live cd, doesnt that contain both 32 and 64? and i have also tried 64 bit windows 7
[22:58] <Ekips> Aww, don't be sad, I like Red Dwarf :p
[22:58] <brandon420> its a amd quad.
[22:58] <Ekips> It's irrelevant brandon420
[22:58] <m_fulder> erUSUL, hm ok so the permission is 775 now but still I can't create files in my folder :S
[22:58] <m_fulder> partition*
[22:58] <belkinsa> Doesn't- you need download 64bit
[22:58] <Ekips> A bootable CD boots, 32 and 64 stuff comes into play much later
[22:59] <brandon420> either way, it wont install win7 64 bit.
[22:59] <avi_> Hey guys, I think I've come up with the best solution for iOS syncing with Ubuntu!
[22:59] <erUSUL> m_fulder: nothe the bit about changing the group too
[22:59] <belkinsa> Does OpenOffice have a IRC channel?
[22:59] <brandon420> im thinking maybe its a driver for the ide cd drive?
[22:59] <rashid> Peace all, is any one having issues using Pal Talk Express?
[22:59] <erUSUL> belkinsa: /msg alis list *openoffice*
[22:59] <m_fulder> erUSUL,  yeah I've done something like . sudo chgrp users /media/Data  aswell
[22:59] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: so how should i do the updates so that i can use the aptoncd program?
[22:59] <rashid> If so, any tips on how to resolve?
[23:00] <jcsteele> belkinsa, #openoffice.org
[23:00] <avi_> Virtualbox (USB capable vers) + Windows + iTunes + Shared folders in virtualbox + seamless mode. Working phenominally for me!
[23:00] <erUSUL> m_fulder: chmod 777
[23:00] <fordfasterr> avi_ cool !
[23:00] <brandon420> Ekips, acerimmer you still around?
[23:00] <Ekips> Well, when you have to VM windows to use an mp3 player, something is wrong imo avi_ ;)
[23:01] <avi_> Ekips, :) Shame that this is the best solution to this problem lol.
[23:01] <Ekips> brandon420: It might be the driver, try if booting a windows install disk works?
[23:01] <fordfasterr> avi_: I still can't even get virtualbox to detect the USB ports. lol
[23:01] <Ekips> If it doesn't, it's hardware/bios related
[23:01] <m_fulder> erUSUL,  now! finally but why do I need 777 , why isn't 744 enought if Im on the "admin-ubuntu" :P
[23:01] <brandon420> Ekips, it doenst. i have tried that.
[23:01] <m_fulder> root*
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> avi_: err, might need a not for everyone sticker on that, sounds like you need something like a pentium d or a low core 2 duo to do that smoothly
[23:01] <avi_> fordfasterr, Did you install from the ubuntu repositories
[23:02] <Ekips> brandon420: Then it's probably a broken CD player or its firmware
[23:02] <Ekips> If the BIOS settings are ok
[23:02] <brandon420> both work, lol, i took it out of my running computer.
[23:02] <erUSUL> m_fulder: becouse the owner is root the 7 permissions only apply to root ( when you use sudo )
[23:02] <erUSUL> m_fulder: anyway for a folder you allways need x so 44 makes little sense
[23:02] <mkquist> m_fulder: you still having problems?
[23:02] <Ekips> brandon420: How about your BIOS is broken and doesn't boot from CD?
[23:02] <brandon420> how do i fix that?
[23:02] <brandon420> lol.
[23:02] <avi_> It's not for everone, aeon-ltd. I'm actually running ubuntu and this VM (XP) under an iMac (ironically) that has 2.8 Ghz core2duo.
[23:03] <Ekips> brandon420: I mean, if it doesn't boot any OS CD, that's not exactly a problem for #ubuntu
[23:03] <spGrob> brandon420, chek the boot sequence in BIOS
[23:03] <m_fulder> erUSUL, ah root=sudo :O I thought that it was if I had many logins to my OS root was like windows admin :P
[23:03] <Ekips> spGrob: He did
[23:03] <brandon420> spGrob, i have
[23:03] <m_fulder> mkquist,  nope just solved them all I think :P
[23:03] <spGrob> Ekips, ups srry
[23:03] <Ekips> spGrob: And he can't boot ubuntu or windows install CDs
[23:03] <brandon420> Ekips, lol, yall are the smartest people i know.
[23:03] <Ekips> So well
[23:03] <vectoravtech> how do I change the run level from command?
[23:03] <Ekips> Thank you :p
[23:03] <m_fulder> mkquist, except the bugg with x64 ubuntu .. no way I could install it on my machine :(
[23:04] <Ekips> brandon420: Try another CD drive
[23:04] <m_fulder> but maybe my processor isn't 64 compatible or something
[23:04] <mkquist> m_fulder: what bug?
[23:04] <acerimmer> vectoravtech: init 6
[23:04] <mkquist> m_fulder: running x64 myself, runs fine
[23:04] <fordfasterr> avi_: yes
[23:04] <vectoravtech> ty
[23:04] <vectoravtech> so init 6 is the lower runtime?
[23:05] <avi_> fordfasterr, Then what were you expecting :P The free version (as in non-totally opensource) can't do USB.
[23:05] <vectoravtech> I need to lower to install envy ati then higher
[23:05] <avi_> fordfasterr, Just grab the version from the VBox website and you'll be set.
[23:05] <m_fulder> mkquist, the setup lagged really much, the bootup didn't work on CDs only DVDs and when booted from DVD it failed to install the OS I got an error where there was writte something about //filesystem.sq..
[23:06] <mkquist> m_fulder: check the cds? dvds?
[23:06] <m_fulder> mkquist,  now when I finally got it working with 32 bit Im scared of trying fixing 64 bit :P is it really that much difference?
[23:06] <m_fulder> mkquist, you mean boot from it and check for errors? .. already done that and it ended with succee
[23:06] <fordfasterr> avi_: is there an apt repository available for it?
[23:07] <mkquist> m_fulder: only if you do things like video encoding or such, something really processor intensive
[23:07] <mkquist> m_fulder: yeah, thats what I meant
[23:07] <vectoravtech> theres got to be two runlevels not just 6
[23:08] <vectoravtech> one is a terminal and the other is the X11
[23:08] <m_fulder> mkquist,  aha well this is only my servercomp , where I'll run a couple of css-servers, teamspeak servers, ventrilo servers, webservers .. etc. so I guess I wouldn't notice so much difference between 64 and 32
[23:08] <erUSUL> !runlevels
[23:08] <fordfasterr> ebox fuxored up my system
[23:09] <ishijoe> hi, i can't start evilwm from gdm any help!!!
[23:09] <m_fulder> btw another question... while copying files from one HDD to another which HDD rps is the important one? .. I mean is it more work for the one I copy from or the one I copy to?
[23:09] <archangelpetro> if you create a python library (with extension .so) can you just link it to /usr/local/lib ? and be able to import it fine from anywhere?
[23:09] <m_fulder> rom*
[23:10] <slapdragon> f
[23:10] <jmfedlp> #ubuntu-es
[23:10] <well_laid_lawn> m_fulder:  writes are more work then reads
[23:11] <m_fulder> aha oki thanks
[23:11] <h4f> is there a way to switch from 32 to 64 bit without uninstalling ?
[23:11] <erUSUL> h4f: no
[23:11] <h4f> thanks
[23:11] <xbonesx> Is kubuntu simply just a different desktop, or is it have a different file structure etc...
[23:12] <erUSUL> xbonesx: ust a different DE
[23:12] <airman10> hello
[23:12] <cbeck> Does anyone know the magic grub incantation to get an hp mini 100 to recognize the ethernet interface when started up on battery power? I had it, lost it, and my google-fu has so far failed me
[23:12] <cbeck> s/100/1000/
[23:12] <n0a1ias> does anyone know an itunes/ipod channel?
[23:12] <xbonesx> erUSUL: thanks for the reply :)
[23:12] <archangelpetro> anyone?
[23:13] <acerimmer> xbonesx: different desktop manager and different packages
[23:13] <ishijoe> hi, i can't start evilwm from gdm any help!!!
[23:13] <airman10> #macbidouille
[23:13] <acerimmer> h4f: nafaik
[23:13] <xbonesx> acerimmer: ok so is it possible to keep gnome and install KDE?
[23:13] <acerimmer> xbonesx: YES!
[23:13] <h4f> acerimmer ?
[23:13] <acerimmer> xbonesx: easiest way is to terminal "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[23:14] <xbonesx> acerimmer: does ubottu know of a tutorial?
[23:14] <acerimmer> h4f: yes??
[23:14] <xbonesx> acerimmer: how would i use it?
[23:15] <xbonesx> acerimmer: and is it 32bit and 64bit?
[23:15] <g13> hallo
[23:15] <acerimmer> reboot as admin user, start terminal, type in "sudo apt=get install Kubuntu-desktop"
[23:15] <alejandro_> hola
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> ishijoe: do you really want to use gdm?
[23:15] <alejandro_> hablan español??
[23:15] <acerimmer> xbonesx: the version will match what's installed already?
[23:15] <acerimmer> !es
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> !es | alejandro_
[23:15] <mkquist> acerimmer: no as admin, sudo does that for him...
[23:15] <airman10> where is a good general purpose chat?
[23:15] <alejandro_> ok gracias
[23:15] <acerimmer> mkquist: trudat thx
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> !ot | airman10
[23:15] <xbonesx> acerimmer: how would i boot one or the other?
[23:16] <h4f> acerimmer you are saying there is a way to convert 32 bit installation to 64 bit ?
[23:16] <acerimmer> xbonesx: upon boot you'll have a menu option to choose the environment
[23:16] <kristalfighter> hi
[23:16] <acerimmer> h4f: nafaik but ask again
[23:17] <xbonesx> acerimmer: kool thanks for your help
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> h4f: thats impossible, without migrating every package and rebuilding the kernel (essentially reinstalling but keeping /home)
[23:18] <ishijoe> aeon-ltd: i have try it with slim also
[23:18] <h4f> aeon-ltd  thats not a problem for me to redownload and reinstall. I just don't wan't to burn a cd and install from it
[23:18] <h4f> acerimmer do you know how can I make such transition. google doesn't answer my question
[23:19] <blakkheim> h4f: usb?
[23:20] <h4f> blakkheim: nope
[23:20] <kristalfighter> dove posso effettuare dei download???
[23:20] <blakkheim> why not?
[23:20] <erUSUL> !it | kristalfighter
[23:21] <h4f> blakkheim:  I can honestly but than what is the difference than writing a cd ?
[23:21] <Jesdisciple> Wow, XChat barfed...
[23:22] <blakkheim> h4f: you said you didn't want to burn a cd to install, so i suggested using a usb drive
[23:22] <ndxtg> does anyone know where can I find partimage.deb for 9.04? the partimage for 9.04 on repo was removed by someone
[23:22] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: hahaha
[23:22] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: how so?
[23:22] <blakkheim> ndxtg: isn't partimage in the repository?
[23:22] <Jesdisciple> for some reason it opened everything twice, and I was banned (???) on ##c++ so it registered two or more random names to try to get me in
[23:23] <ndxtg> blakkheim: someone removed it for 9.04 version
[23:23] <Jesdisciple> couldn't get my real, registered nick until I unjoined ##c++
[23:23] <Somelauw> I inserted a dvd but it won't run and gives me an error saying it couldn't read resource.
[23:23] <Somelauw> Why is that?
[23:23] <Jesdisciple> no clue how I got banned, I don't even talk in there...
[23:24] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: i tether from a phone and when i get a call i lose internet and i disconnect then reconnect. one night a got a shit load of texts and i got banned from a channel for it hahaha
[23:24] <Somelauw> Oh, and I bought the dvd. So it is legal and supposed to work.
[23:24] <blakkheim> Somelauw: what dvd?
[23:25] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: your texts get forwarded to IRC? O_o
[23:25] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: but its kool if i get banned i just reset my phone and i have a new ip hahaha
[23:25] <Jesdisciple> lol
[23:25] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: no i was disconnected from the net so i was disconnect and reconnecting in the channel, said i was flooding it...
[23:25] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: o i c
[23:25] <Somelauw> blakkheim, does that matter? Well it was "Tekken".
[23:26] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: you jury-rigged your cell to get wi-fi by it...
[23:26] <blakkheim> Somelauw: i mean, is it a movie?
[23:26] <Jesdisciple> xbonesx: nifty ;)
[23:26] <Somelauw> Yes
[23:26] <blakkheim> Somelauw: and do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[23:26] <Somelauw> blakkheim, yes it is a movie.And it totally legal.
[23:27] <acerimmer> Somelauw: blue ray or regular dvd?
[23:27] <xbonesx> Jesdisciple: sure did, palm pre, very easy to do too
[23:27] <blakkheim> Somelauw: whether it's legal or not is irrelevant. can you browse the dvd's files?
[23:27] <Somelauw> blakkheim, not yet. Do I need that. It didn't complain about codecs and such.
[23:27] <blakkheim> Somelauw: yes you need it
[23:28] <Somelauw> acerimmer, just an ordinary dvd.
[23:28] <Kyle__> If I add lucid-proposed to my apt/sources.list will it want to update everything in the proposed archive?
[23:28] <blakkheim> Somelauw: sudo aptitude -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:29] <Somelauw> blakkheim, yes I can browse the dvd from something like media.
[23:29] <outlaw94> --help
[23:29] <xbonesx> ok so i just did a fresh install and would like to know how to put these packages http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7981/22245829.png from the update manager on a cd for use on a offline computer
[23:30] <acerimmer> xbonesx: http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[23:32] <frank___> Hello?
[23:32] <otay> Does anybody have root (/) on LVM? I can't get it to work for Ubuntu. It works on Fedora though (same system (mutliboot))
[23:33] <xbonesx> acerimmer: unfortunately i dont know what every package is and that would be a lot of work to find every one in the synaptic package manager, is their an alternative to this?
[23:34] <acerimmer> xbonesx: sorry don't have one ready.
[23:34] <Kyle__> Anyone know how to search packages in a specific repository using apt-cache?
[23:34] <frank___> Can anybody help me with muting the speakers when I plug in some headphones?
[23:35] <xbonesx> Kyle__: http://www.ccl.net/cca/software/UNIX/updating-redhat/apt-howto/how-to-use-apt-cache.html
[23:37] <Kyle__> xbonesx: I'm trying to search the lucid-proposed release though.
[23:37] <dotanitis> Hello2all
[23:38] <Neo_the_chosen_o> hello
[23:38] <hdon> hi all. recently i noticed that when i switch users, there are no sound devices available for use or configuration unless i first log out of my other sessions. what gives!
[23:38] <frank___> Can anybody help me with muting the speakers when I plug in some headphones?
[23:38] <xbonesx> the downloaded files from synaptic package manager are located in '/var/cache/apt/archives/'
[23:39]  * Kyle__ has a particularly annoying bug that's choking his lab-machines.
[23:39] <Kyle__> xbonesx: Yes, yes they are.
[23:39] <BlaDe^> Hi guys, I'm currently running 9.10 -- last time I went to 10.04 (Admittedly it was beta) I had no network connectivity and it borked my install
[23:39] <BlaDe^> I want to try it again for the native iPhone support, but is there a way I can backup?
[23:39] <blakkheim> BlaDe^: image your drive
[23:40] <frank___> you should just be able to make a image backup
[23:40] <daedaluz> BlaDe^: copy-paste from phone?
[23:40] <BlaDe^> I have to image the entire drive?
[23:40] <blakkheim> if you want a backup of the whole OS, yeah
[23:40] <BlaDe^> Is there anything I could backup to just revert back to 9.10?
[23:40] <blakkheim> no
[23:40] <Somelauw> Okay, my dvd still won't start.
[23:41] <BlaDe^> hmm. Do you think i'm likely to have the same issues as last time? Before my Wifi would only stay connected for 10-15secs then would die
[23:41] <frank___> using VLC?
[23:41] <Somelauw> It says that it can't find the location and that I might not have permission to open it.
[23:41] <Kyle__> BlaDe^: if you don't have too much in the way of customisations, and stuff in /usr/local, you could just backup your /home and /etc to a CD/DVD/BRD, and save a package listing.
[23:41] <frank___> Can anybody help me with muting the speakers when I plug in some headphones?
[23:41] <Kyle__> BlaDe^: that way you can re-install without having to make a whole image, and prettymuch get your system back to this state.
[23:41] <BlaDe^> yeah
[23:41] <dotanitis> can someone help me to exec some util on a file when it's directory has spaces in the directoy name?
[23:41] <BlaDe^> I think I'll risk it, if worst come sto worst I'll backup core files and go back to 9l10
[23:41] <blakkheim> dotanitis: use a \
[23:42] <BlaDe^> thanks guys
[23:42] <Kyle__> BlaDe^: dpkg --get-selections should give you a list of packages I think.
[23:42] <blakkheim> dotanitis: this\ is\ an\ example
[23:42] <Somelauw> blakkheim, acerimmer: I did what you said.
[23:42] <kens1962> how do i install a program through terminal
[23:42] <acerimmer> Somelauw: and??
[23:42] <frank___> Can anybody help me with muting the speakers when I plug in some headphones?!?! Its really annoying and I have no clue how to do it
[23:42] <dotanitis> blakkheim its works but i have another problem... when i insert the filename in a variable i cannot use it
[23:42] <frank___> sudo apt-get install programname
[23:43] <BlaDe^> Upgrading to 10.04 now.
[23:43] <Somelauw> accerimmer, It says that it can't find the location and that I might not have permission to open it.
[23:43] <frank___> YAY :D
[23:43] <dotanitis> HI="this\ is\ an\ example"; file $HI
[23:43] <yaaar> howdy
[23:43] <frank___> Can anybody help me with muting the speakers when I plug in some headphones?
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> dotanitis, if you use double quotes " you don't need the \s
[23:44] <acerimmer> Somelauw: confirm; you installed restricted extras??
[23:44] <ross_> hello does anyone have experience installing OSHAN in their homes?
[23:44] <xbonesx> BlaDe^: http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html
[23:44] <dotanitis> ZykoticK9 10x ill try...
[23:44] <Somelauw> acerimmer, yes
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> acerimmer, Somelauw FYI dvd support is NOT in restricted extras, it's separate
[23:45] <acerimmer> ZykoticK9: more plz/
[23:45] <Flor> hy
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> acerimmer, Somelauw you can see my directions at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback
[23:46] <kens1962> alright i downloaded the programin terminal now how do i find it
[23:47] <mattgyver> kens1962, you can try which <package name>
[23:47] <kens1962> bittorrent
[23:47] <kens1962> how do i find it
[23:47] <Somelauw> ZykoticK9, I installed it and it still won't play. Would it help if I rebooted?
[23:47] <ZykoticK9> Somelauw, it always seems to for me (not sure why)
[23:47] <kens1962> i just install bittorent how do i find it?
[23:47] <mattgyver> kens, i just told you, which bittorrent :)
[23:48] <grout_> i just setup an ubuntu home server any recomend any goo apps?
[23:48] <mkquist> xbonesx: frank___i thought that was usually a hardware thing, do you want to do it automatically or just change your output?
[23:48] <mattgyver> it will return the path of the program
[23:48] <kens1962> idk which i got it from terminal
[23:48] <mattgyver> .. no .. ken
[23:48] <frank___> xbonesx: whut?
[23:48] <mattgyver> the command IS:  which bittorrent
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> dotanitis, why are you PM me all that stuff?  please stop - it is considered rude to PM someone without asking first
[23:48] <mkquist> frank___: oops that was from me...
[23:48] <frank___> ohh, k
[23:48] <dotanitis> sorry.. :(
[23:49] <frank___> how do we private chat or something..thx for helping :)
[23:49] <rolandpish> in my ubuntu lucid, brasero doesn't have the option to create an iso image from a cd, only cdrdao and cue formats are available. What can I do?
[23:49] <mkquist> frank___: usually its done in public, might help someone else too
[23:50] <mkquist> that just sounded funny... hmmm
[23:50] <frank___> oh, okie dokie :) so i read on an ubuntu forum that you have to add a line to a modprobe..
[23:50] <BlaDe^> lol
[23:50] <frank___> aah thats what she said :P
[23:50] <frank___> but anyway, i dont know what that line is that i have to add
[23:50] <tru3fate> can anyone help me with a virtualbox error. error saids VirtualBox cant operate in VMX root mode.Please disable the kvm kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot.
[23:50] <mkquist> to get it to mute when a headphone is plugged in?
[23:50] <frank___> yeah
[23:51] <tripelb> Has anyone here any knowledge of using the Google Name Server?
[23:51] <mkquist> so where are you plugging the headphones in?
[23:51] <mattgyver> tripelb, googledns?
[23:51] <frank___> front jack
[23:51] <lysy_> elo jak zainstalować kadu bo nie moge sie połapać mam ubu 9.04
[23:51] <ZykoticK9> tru3fate, do you have kvm installed?  especially the kernel acceleration part (i forgot what it's called)?
[23:51] <mkquist> and sound card exits other place?
[23:52] <frank___> uh yeah i guess?.. its an HP a6330f
[23:53] <tripelb> rolandpish, In Brasero in 9.10 I could do it BUT I had to do it a certain way. There was a way of getting into Brasero that wouldnt work. Try starting Brasero and THEN finding the file, not some other way of getting into the program
[23:53] <frank___> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF10a/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-3644673.html?lang=en&jumpid=oc_R1002_CAENC-001_HP%20Pavilion%20a6330f%20Desktop%20PC&cc=ca
[23:53] <brandonc503> hey all.. i wana have two os on comp, win and ubunt.. which way should i install them so that i get prompt on boot to select each, i think its win then ubuntu...?
[23:53] <dotanitis> when writing HI="./b c/f3";file $HI i still got errMsg...Please assist..
[23:53] <mattgyver> frank__, does 'lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel' return a result?
[23:53] <frank___> scratych that.. heres the actual web page
[23:54] <tru3fate> ZykoticK9, I install kvm dont know what kernel acceleration to install.
[23:54] <tripelb> mattgyver, I will give you the page. cause I dont know googledns tho I can look it up. <mattgyver> tripelb, googledns?
[23:54] <frank___> and it returns:
[23:54] <frank___> snd_hda_intel          25677  4
[23:54] <frank___> snd_hda_codec          85759  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
[23:54] <frank___> snd_pcm                87882  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[23:54] <frank___> snd                    71187  20 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[23:54] <FloodBot2> frank___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <tripelb> mattgyver, http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html#setup
[23:55] <brandonc503> quick laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU
[23:55] <rolandpish> tripelb, thanks. What I'm trying to accomplish is to create an ISO image from a CD, and Brasero only shows cue and cdrdao options, but not ISO.
[23:55] <mattgyver> tripelb, yeah in your router you just need to enter the DNS servers which if i recall are <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> but dont quote me
[23:55] <frank___> ger, IRC is yelling at me.. heres a link http://paste.ubuntu.com/499361/
[23:55] <etherealite> I'm trying to make a new key for my luks encrypted drive through crptsetup luksAddKey /dev/mapper/lvmpvname mykeyfile am I doing it right?
[23:55] <tripelb> rolandpish, yes I know.
[23:55] <mattgyver> frank__, it might not work, but you can probably adjust the model layout in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:55] <fordfasterr> anyone here versed in samba ?
[23:56] <tripelb> mattgyver, yes. I did that but the Apply button still stays grey.
[23:56] <dotanitis> ZykoticK9, can you please assist?
[23:56] <mattgyver> frank__, hang on and i might be able to tell you what it is..i gotta remember how to find out something
[23:56] <llutz> rolandpish: cat /dev/sr0 >foo.iso
[23:56] <kens1962> how do i find a program i just installed
[23:56] <Kyle__> Ugh.  Hurray, this time it's xinit that got blocked.
[23:56] <rolandpish> llutz, does that command work if the cdrom is bootable?
[23:56] <frank___> kk, i gotta go eat dinner soon so yeahh... my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if ya need it
[23:57] <Kyle__> "INFO: task xninit:1167 blocked for for more than 120 seconds.
[23:57] <Kyle__> And then a crash.
[23:57] <mattgyver> frank___, can you pastebin this; lspci -v
[23:57] <llutz> rolandpish: it should work for all kinds of data-cds
[23:57] <zatan> is anybody of you using "MOCP" audio console player?
[23:57] <mkquist> frank___: try this page... http://www.2noob4linux.com/?p=13
[23:57] <mattgyver> frank___, that would get me what I need to know and i can pm or email you directions whichever.
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> tru3fate, can you uninstall kvm?  might be the easiest, you'll might have to run "sudo apt-get auto-remove" (only do if prompted after kvm removal to remove anything else it may have installed), obviously if you need both then you have an issue.
[23:57] <rolandpish> ok, I'll try it then. Thanks!
[23:57] <frank___> okie dokie :)
[23:58] <tripelb> mattgyver, that page I linked to will give you all the instructions, similar if not exactly what you said. Have you dont it?
[23:58] <frank___> http://pastebin.com/qnxsMm8K
[23:58] <mattgyver> tripelb, no i use opendns because its faster in my area
[23:58] <frank___> there ya go mattgyver
[23:58] <nixbox> hi all, i am trying to compile a kernel (wireless-testing 2.6.35) using make-kpkg, the kernel seems to be compiling fine along with modules, but when deb packages have to be created i get an error saying "package linux-image-2.6.35-wl+ not in control info"
[23:58] <tripelb> rolandpish, I was saying to do what I said. or try it.
[23:58] <kens1962> how do i find a program i just installed
[23:59] <tripelb> mattgyver, what is opendns? OK I'll look it up.
[23:59] <ZykoticK9> dotanitis, i'm not clear on what you are trying to do (you commands don't seem quite correct), if you need spaces then you have 2 ways to deal with them 1) escape\ the\ spaces\ like\ this or 2) "use double quotes around the whole thing"
[23:59] <rolandpish> tripelb, Cool. I'll try your suggestion. Thanks a lot!
[23:59] <frank___> g2g email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thank you guys soo soo much :D
[23:59] <mattgyver> tripelb, its the same thing but it also graphs information for you and lets you control the dns as well
[23:59] <mattgyver> like block stuff
[23:59] <Jordan_U> nixbox: Have you tried just using the mainline kernel "ppa"?
[23:59] <mkquist> kens1962: whereis
[23:59] <xbonesx> Can you get just a KDE mimic theme for ubuntu gnome???
[23:59] <kens1962> where is what