[04:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, sudo
[04:26] <joeinspirit> sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/..
[04:26] <geargolem> nickrud, ah.  I need to learn how to open the hardware
[04:26] <dockane> do i need to run rpcbind on port 111 ? what is that ?
[04:26] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ sudo chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> > chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> > chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> bash: command substitution: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:26] <geetergod> bash: command substitution: line 3: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:26] <Hackmo> kvidell:thanks
[04:26] <nickrud> geargolem, if you have a few million to spare, maybe you can talk to ati :)
[04:26] <LinuxJones> wirjo, did you save it ?
[04:26] <wirjo> LinuxJones - yupp
[04:26] <geargolem> nickrud, complaints?  I have more than a few million
[04:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you typed something wrong, it was correct above, just needed sudo
[04:27] <KarlosII> les
[04:27] <KarlosII> les
[04:27] <murphyl> hey
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:27] <KarlosII> hey
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:27] <nickrud> geargolem, bucks? then, software in the public interest, the gnome foundation, and a few others would be a good target
[04:27] <murphyl> this is cool
[04:27] <geetergod> sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/ had no reply joeinspirit
[04:27] <KarlosII> murphyl, type /join #edmonton-lug as well
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:28] <KarlosII> murphyl, = noob :P
[04:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, no news is good news.
[04:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, so ive learned on here :)
[04:28] <KarlosII> murphyl, ppl are very help ful here :)
[04:29] <geargolem> nickrud, I'd rather eat my hat than not learn Ubuntu
[04:29] <murphyl> I figured they would be
[04:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well about all I can say, is remove the card that you added, then reboot, if it asks you if you want to remove the config for the hardware say yes. the check alsamixer,
[04:29] <joeinspirit> actually
[04:30] <joeinspirit> one more thing
[04:30] <joeinspirit> before taht
[04:30] <learning> anyone here mind helping me determine what is causing my system to run so sluggish i suspect some bad settings in hdparm.conf but i'm not sure. my system use to run pretty fast with kde but here lately after about an hour or better of use it seems to "lag" for lack of better words
[04:30] <flodine> a why cant i update synaptic
[04:30] <nickrud> geargolem, hang in there, I did a couple of installs of debian before I got the hang; but once I had it, I never did a reinstall until I was challenged to try ubuntu. I'ts worth the effort
[04:30] <wirjo> LinuxJones - any ideas why it wont run?
[04:30] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok
[04:30] <geargolem> will do nickrud.  its only a matter of years. :)
[04:30] <joeinspirit> try this
[04:31] <LinuxJones> wirjo, have you set it as your default crontab ?
[04:31] <nickrud> geargolem, no hours, just a lot of them
[04:31] <wirjo> yeah
[04:31] <geetergod> ok
[04:32] <geargolem> seems more reasonable.  Looks like I lost my .blend files anyway, nickrud :(
[04:32] <wirjo> LinuxJones - It still won't work...
[04:32] <sawyer> nobody speaks spanish in this channel?
[04:32] <fr500> sawyer, i do
[04:32] <LinuxJones> wirjo, I don't know dude :(
[04:32] <joeinspirit> geetergod, do you have a mp3 laying around?
[04:32] <wirjo> LinuxJones - :(
[04:33] <LinuxJones> sawyer, join #ubuntu-es
[04:33] <geetergod> joeinspirt, like a song on the computer or one on disk er something?
[04:33] <geargolem> nickrud, how do you cp an entire file?
[04:33] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ya anything just so you can access it.
[04:33] <geargolem> *folder , nickrud
[04:33] <geetergod> maybe, hold on
[04:33] <sawyer> thanks!!!...
[04:33] <nickrud> geargolem, cp filename /where/you/want/it/to/go
[04:34] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes i do
[04:34] <nickrud> geargolem, cp folder /where/you/want/it/to/go
[04:34] <robert__> geargolem: cp -R /folder /bla/bla
[04:34] <nickrud> thnks robert__ saves me some retyping :)
[04:34] <robert__> yea
[04:34] <geargolem> thnx
[04:35] <magoo> noob q. im trying to install stuff and get md5sum error messages.. how to ignore them and install anyway?
[04:35] <robert__> magoo: you don't ignore them, you download a new ISO
[04:35] <nickrud> magoo, don't ignore them, they're a safety
[04:35] <geargolem> you win this time, Ubuntu!
[04:35] <nickrud> magoo, you using us.archive?
[04:35] <robert__> the ISO you downloaded is corrupt
[04:36] <kvidell> oh sweet jesus
[04:36] <wirjo> stupid cron wont work - I might try out Fedora Core 4
[04:36] <kvidell> oh that almost sucked really bad
[04:36] <kvidell> I had copied the full output from a yum update on my fedora box
[04:36] <kvidell> and right clicked in here on accident
[04:36] <kvidell> luckily I was dragging my mouse at the same time so it just highlighted some other text
[04:36] <magoo> nickrud: yes i just follewed ubuntoguide.org adding repositories
[04:36] <robert__> i cant stand rpm based distros
[04:36] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what should i do with this mp3? its a song on my computer
[04:36] <kvidell> robert__: This is the only one that doesn't make me sad.
[04:37] <nickrud> magoo, us.archive is bad at the moment, just use archive
[04:37] <kvidell> and my interaction with it's RPM side is very limited
[04:37] <robert__> by trying to make it simpler, they make it a lot more difficult
[04:37] <nickrud> magoo, you'll hear on here when it's good again
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod, a wav is probably good too.
[04:37] <fr500> robert__, aren't debs the same idea as rpms?
[04:37] <magoo> nickrud: ok i see
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod infact a wav file would most likely be better.
[04:37] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what do i do with it?
[04:37] <kvidell> fr500: it's more the implementation that makes it difficult to use
[04:37] <fr500> oh
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok you have wave file?
[04:37] <fr500> well you can use yum or synapti
[04:37] <fr500> c
[04:38] <kvidell> the deb system is much more well managed than the rpm ones at this point, what with the dependancy solving
[04:38] <fr500> ah
[04:38] <Stew2>
[04:38] <Stew2>
[04:38] <Stew2>
[04:38] <squinn> aah
[04:38] <Stew2>
[04:38] <Stew2>
[04:38] <keikoz> humm
[04:38] <kvidell> even with synaptic there' sstill some pretty hairy issues with deps
[04:38] <Stew2> sorry
[04:38] <kvidell> lol
[04:38] <Th4tBa5t4rd> nice
[04:38] <nickrud> ew stevegriff what's up?
[04:38] <squinn> What happened, Stew2?
[04:38] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i have mp3 and wma's
[04:38] <joeinspirit> alsaplayer -d hw0:0 (they syntax might need adjusting.
[04:38] <kvidell> I was waiting for another "WINDOWS TEAM!!"
[04:38] <Stew2> < went to sleep at the keyboard.
[04:38] <nickrud> eh, sorry stevegriff
[04:38] <KarlosII> stew2 enough
[04:38] <squinn> nickrud, that's Steve2
[04:38] <squinn> lol
[04:38] <nickrud> lol
[04:38] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum... not sure if alsaplayer can handle that but try mp3
[04:38] <joeinspirit> wma won't work
[04:38] <Stew2> karlosII Like I said. zzzz... sorry
[04:39] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what do u mean try it?
[04:39] <Stew2> I must have had my hand on the space bar?
[04:39] <joeinspirit> go to the terminal
[04:39] <joeinspirit> then
[04:39] <robert__> Stew2: and then hit the up button and enter button three times in a row
[04:39] <robert__> lol
[04:39] <joeinspirit> alsaplayer -d hw=0:0 mymp3file.mp3
[04:39] <robert__> "on accident"
[04:39] <Stew2> I guess....
[04:39] <nickrud> Stew2, we'll take any excuse for that one :)
[04:40] <robert__> gotta make some dinner
[04:40] <robert__> spagetti tonight
[04:40] <robert__> bbl
[04:40] <Stew2> I was wondering why the keyboard was 'jammed'.
[04:41] <Stew2> nickrud I updated the package list, and gzip returned an error on one of the package.gz files. How do I delete it? (where is the cache stored?)
[04:41] <geetergod> joeinspirit, but i type in the name of my mp3?
[04:42] <nickrud> Stew2, you don't want to do that, really.
[04:42] <Th4tBa5t4rd> sticky keyboards? o_O
[04:42] <joeinspirit> geetergod yup
[04:42] <Stew2> nickrud Well, then every time I update it keeps telling me gzip returned an error. It doesn't want to re-download the file though...
[04:42] <joeinspirit> what I ment by the syntax might be wrong is that that -d hw... part might need some changing.
[04:42] <nickrud> Stew2, it's in /var/lib/apt/lists,  but, there's something else wrong, I would think
[04:43] <nickrud> gotta feed the cat, he's nosing around
[04:43] <geetergod> joeinspirit - geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ alsaplayer -d hw=0:0 Metallica-And Justice For All.mp3
[04:43] <geetergod> Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Stew2: the error is probably on the server, not your machine
[04:44] <Stew2> nickrud, Huh. Well how do I clear the cache and have it re-download the package lists?
[04:44] <joeinspirit> geetergod.... uhm..... /me brain is tired.
[04:44] <geetergod> joeinspirit, me too, been doing this for 2 day
[04:44] <geetergod> days
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i'll just unplug the new card and reboot
[04:45] <joeinspirit> geetergod yes that would be good to try.
[04:45] <joeinspirit> reboot, with it not in there
[04:45] <joeinspirit> , then reboot with it back in.
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, thanks a  ton, i think we got close :)
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yah, ill turn off the computer and pull out the card and start back up
[04:47] <nickrud> Stew2, could you paste the complete error on pastebin.com?
[04:47] <geetergod> joeinspirit, thanks again, i'll see you around and i'll let ya know how it went :)
[04:48] <nickrud> geetergod, ah, surgery :)
[04:48] <joeinspirit> geetergod ok gl
[04:48] <geetergod> nickrud, you bloodthirsty pig :)
[04:48] <nickrud> lol\
[04:48] <geetergod> here goes <poof>
[04:49] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[04:49] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:50] <squinn> question, linux in general
[04:50] <squinn> i want to use this gigantic partition in ubuntu
[04:50] <nickrud> sorry, I'll leave it alone
[04:50] <squinn> and i'd format it with the install
[04:50] <squinn> BUT
[04:50] <squinn> there's one directory on there i wish to keep
[04:51] <squinn> how do i get that one directory to stay on there
[04:51] <squinn> wait, i've got idea
[04:51] <seth_k> squinn: e-mail it to yourself or something
[04:51] <nickrud> squinn, if you format a partition during the install, that directory will be history
[04:51] <squinn> nickrud, correct
[04:51] <squinn> seth_k, it's too big
[04:52] <squinn> nickrud, i want to save this directory
[04:52] <seth_k> pr0n eh
[04:52] <seth_k> :D
[04:52] <seth_k> j/k
[04:52] <misfit-toy> 5
[04:52] <squinn> seth_k, that gets formatted over.
[04:52] <IcemanV9> squinn: burn it to CDRW
[04:52] <misfit-toy> hheh
[04:52] <squinn> different CDRW  then the ISO?
[04:52] <nickrud> squinn, email it to root, and it shouldn't go through your provider
[04:53] <nickrud> :)
[04:53] <IcemanV9> just burn it to CD, format the partition, then copy it back from CD disc
[04:53] <misfit-toy> send it to gmail
[04:53] <IcemanV9> only if you're nervous
[04:54] <Amaranth> use one of those 'gmail filesystem' things and copy it all over :)
[04:54] <hondje> Amaranth: do the devs want core files, or the goodies from them?
[04:54] <nickrud> squinn, the only practical answer I know is IcemanV9 's, although gmail filesystem's seems rather 'interesting'
[04:54] <hondje> for bugzilla
[04:54] <misfit-toy> copy it down on paper then re enter it'
[04:54] <Amaranth> hondje: what?
[04:55] <Linforcer> what's a dog doing in an irc channel
[04:55] <Amaranth> dog?
[04:55] <hondje> When submitting a bug to bugzilla, do the devs want core files, or do the want what is in them?
[04:55] <Amaranth> hondje: i don't understand what you mean
[04:55] <Stew2> OKay. I deleted the files and it's working again. I'm pretty sure it was a modem error.
[04:55] <Linforcer> hondje = dutch for doggy
[04:56] <hondje> Amaranth: when you segfault and dump a core
[04:56] <nickrud> Stew2, I've done that, it's a major hack, I just didn't want to recommend it :)
[04:56] <Stew2> Linforcer, Can you post a phonetic english version?
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: attach them to the bug
[04:57] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u still here?
[04:57] <Linforcer> Stew2: xD why?
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: if you think it's a config file issue attach those too
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: and any error logs
[04:57] <hondje> Amaranth: okay, thanks. Sorry to be so vauge asking about it
[04:57] <Arrogant> Hey, what are the chances of getting the sound card part of a sound card / modem duplex working?
[04:58] <Linforcer> Stew2: "honchuh" is probably closest :P
[04:58] <hondje> or snoodaard
[04:59] <Linforcer> xD
[04:59] <dennis_> guys, is there a way to release certain IRQ without reboot or going to BIOS? I am trying to install a driver using ndiswrapper and it is tryingn to assign IRQ 10 which is used by eth0
[04:59] <zerokills> you guys know any other good IRC channels?
[05:00] <Linforcer> zerokills: as far as I know all channels function equally well
[05:00] <dr_willis> well the #HOTLINUXBABES is good. :P
[05:00] <Linforcer> xkD
[05:00] <zerokills> heh
[05:00] <Linforcer> what about *thegoodircchannel
[05:01] <dr_willis>  /join #Good
[05:01] <Linforcer> #thegoodircchannel
[05:01] <dr_willis> :P
[05:01] <Arrogant> dr_willis, somebody got there first! And I really wanted that channel.
[05:01] <Linforcer> haha
[05:01] <Linforcer> instead of asl
[05:01] <Koala> I'm running Kubuntu 5.04PPC on a g3 laptop...Many of the window title bars have graphic corruption.. vertical bars or dots.. once in a while the entire colors of the screen look psychadelic, and on certain parts of the screen there is corruption where the mouse moves.. ie) in the letters of kubuntu on the desktop when i move the mouse there it fills up with blue pixels..
[05:01] <Linforcer> idt be asld
[05:01] <Arrogant> Linforcer, distro?
[05:01] <nickrud> hah, typing for years has finally got me something :)
[05:01] <Linforcer> yup
[05:01] <Arrogant> hey baby, distro
[05:01] <Linforcer> :P
[05:02] <Koala> Anyone have ideas as to why?  Switch to 16 colors gets rid of the mouse movement corruption but the window title bars persist.
[05:02] <Linforcer> "21 f UK SuSE"
[05:02] <Linforcer> SuSE ew no way
[05:02] <Linforcer> I'm cybering someone else man
[05:02] <Arrogant> debian at least come on baby
[05:02] <Linforcer> xD
[05:03] <Linforcer> "any hawt gentoo chix?"
[05:03] <Arrogant> ... I should go over to sexnet and ask that
[05:03] <Arrogant> And log the reactions...
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> hawt chix run slax
[05:03] <Arrogant> call it a case study
[05:03] <Linforcer> haha
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> meh. hot chicks like to fsck
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> :-|
[05:03] <Amaranth> Ok guys, that's a bit much.
[05:04] <Linforcer> I remember wondering on #planeshift-build how many linux useres women there were
[05:04] <Linforcer> everyone at the same time were like
[05:04] <Linforcer> 7
[05:04] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i know 3 of them myself and have asked them for help in the last week
[05:05] <Linforcer> heh
[05:05] <Arrogant> Haha, channel registered.
[05:05] <Linforcer> I know some female firefox users but it ends there
[05:05] <Linforcer> and I introduces 4 of 5 to it
[05:05] <nickrud> Arrogant, it's all your's
[05:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u here?
[05:05] <ernesto> good night everyone
[05:05] <Arrogant> nickrud, I shall keep it all to myself I'm sure
[05:05] <Linforcer> just not my mom. because my dad beat me to it
[05:05] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i have both of my ex's running firefox/thunderbird... because i am everyone's windowz tech
[05:06] <ernesto> whats the channel's language
[05:06] <nickrud> Arrogant, nah, I'll check in now and then, see how empty it is :)
[05:06] <Linforcer> oh right
[05:06] <Linforcer> both my ex's too
[05:06] <Linforcer> :D
[05:06] <Arrogant> :D
[05:06] <Linforcer> and my current too ^^
[05:06] <geetergod> nickrud, now nothing works, no volume control, no alsaimxer.. :(
[05:06] <Th4tBa5t4rd> my current SFO already used firefox :-D
[05:07] <nickrud> geetergod, then, I would go back to the working sound card, not all hardware is kind to linux
[05:07] <Linforcer> my current didnt even know other browsers existed
[05:07] <mac2> Hello
[05:07] <scanwinder_> ive forgotten howto uninstall autopackages...........i want to uninstall gaim........
[05:07] <geetergod> nickrud, i did didnt have nothing there either
[05:07] <ernesto> can someone help me? i have just installed ubuntu on my hard disk
[05:07] <scanwinder_> anyone know how 2 uninstall them?
[05:07] <geetergod> nickrud, and this soundcard did work before
[05:07] <Linforcer> she's a smart girl but she knows less than 0 about computers
[05:07] <Th4tBa5t4rd> scanwinder. find it in Synaptic
[05:07] <Arrogant> Linforcer, you'd be surprised how many there are like that ><
[05:07] <nickrud> geetergod, we're over my head here, and, well, I've seen experts have problems with your setup
[05:08] <geetergod> nickrud, ok :(
[05:08] <scanwinder_> it dosent show in synaptic
[05:08] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i got my sound finally working following the wiki...lucky me
[05:08] <ernesto> why ubuntu freezes when i open more than 1 program?
[05:08] <Linforcer> Arrogant: heh yeah. I come from a pc family. My dad introduced me to Mozilla before even (atthe time) PYhoenix came out
[05:08] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I used Mozilla once I think
[05:09] <Linforcer> Arrogant: when whe still had dial up he was downloading FreeBSD with it
[05:09] <Th4tBa5t4rd> scanwinder_, is it in add/remove programs under Applications>System Tools?
[05:09] <regeya> heh
[05:09] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I downloaded Warty on dialup :(
[05:09] <scanwinder_> no
[05:09] <Arrogant> I'm still running it.
[05:09] <regeya> I once downloaded freebsd via dialup
[05:09] <regeya> that was insane
[05:09] <Arrogant> How big is FreeBSD?
[05:09] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i used Moz suite for a while
[05:09] <ernesto> plz, someone can help me? where should i post my question?
[05:09] <Linforcer> Arrogant: I didnt use warty for long. it didnt work well enough yet
[05:09] <nickrud> Arrogant, kudos, that takes persistence
[05:09] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: system tools > manage 3rd party software
[05:09] <regeya> also once spent an afternoon back in college downloading slackware disksets and writing them to floppy
[05:10] <Arrogant> nickrud: You know it. Download manager.
[05:10] <Linforcer> Arrogant: I didnt say goodbye to windows full till Hoary
[05:10] <Linforcer> anyway
[05:10] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I still use XP as my main OS
[05:10] <regeya> misfit-toy: considering how much things have changed since I first installed Slack 9 years ago...
[05:10] <Linforcer> Arrogant: ouch, gaming?
[05:10] <Arrogant> There's too much downloading to do for Warty and this computer sucks
[05:10] <thoreauputic> ernesto: maybe tell us a bit more: or see what errors you get starting a program from the terminal
[05:10] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i'm still dualbooted and will be unless there's a linux native app for my games
[05:10] <nickrud> Arrogant, aptitude -d install
[05:11] <Arrogant> And in order to upgrade to Hoary, I don't even want to think
[05:11] <misfit-toy> regeya, I remember IBM punch cards for computing, try that on.
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: still dial up then?
[05:11] <Arrogant> nickrud, what's that?
[05:11] <Arrogant> Linforcer, yeah.
[05:11] <Arrogant> The second I get broadband I'll upgrade.
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: that sucks. order some hoary cds free?
[05:11] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, im actually using ubuntu and, it dosent have "manage 3rd party software" there
[05:11] <ernesto> ok thoreau
[05:11] <Arrogant> Linforcer, that takes months
[05:11] <scanwinder> *kubuntu
[05:11] <scanwinder> oops
[05:11] <nickrud> Arrogant, it's getting packages downloaded, not installed (overnight) so you can watch them when the install during the day (scriptable with cron)
[05:11] <Arrogant> I ordered Warty and they came... long after I downloaded
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: mine took 6 weeks.. but can't hurt, can it? ;)
[05:12] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i'm running ubuntu and i don't have "manage third party apps" either
[05:12] <thoreauputic> ernesto: you know haoe to run a program from terminal, right?
[05:12] <Arrogant> nickrud, I've already got apt-get set up to do it.
[05:12] <thoreauputic> *how
[05:12] <ernesto> ok thoreau
[05:12] <nickrud> Arrogant, so, what's keeping you from breezy ;)
[05:12] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: i am running ubuntu as well
[05:12] <ernesto> i'm running a terminal window now
[05:13] <nickrud> heh, typo
[05:13] <Linforcer> aaaannnyway
[05:13] <Arrogant> nickrud, I think I'll go hoary and wait a while for breezy ;)
[05:13] <Stew2> ernesto, how to run an app from a terminal?
[05:13] <inc595> I finally got dvd's to play in xine.. anyone know how to get xine to play when a dvd is loaded rather then totem?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> ernesto: so what happens with errors if you start up a program?
[05:13] <Stew2> ernesto, gedit, aptitude, nautilus...
[05:13] <nickrud> Arrogant, lol, that's what I meant, breezy follows hoary, which is what I run
[05:13] <regeya> misfit-toy: oh yeah?  well, mine is much larger, and in addition is has more girth, and I can lift cinder blocks with it.
[05:13] <Linforcer> back to reading. also anyone who wants a quick giggle that hasnt seen this yet. check out the new fragrance by Linus Torvalds http://img10.echo.cx/img10/4121/root0zx.swf
[05:14] <ernesto> well, when i star more than one program ubuntu freezes
[05:14] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, i meant kubuntu
[05:14] <ernesto> the hard drive starts an infinite reading
[05:14] <Stew2> inc595, Yeah, I'd remove the totem package anyway... I can't remember where to set the default, however having totem installed....
[05:14] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, it I missed out the K lol
[05:14] <thoreauputic> ernesto: we know that - I'm trying to get some error message to work with
[05:14] <ernesto> the red led never stop
[05:14] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: well. that does make sense. :)
[05:14] <ernesto> ah,ok
[05:15] <ernesto> thoreau now i know what you want
[05:15] <misfit-toy> regeya, it's not a pissing contest, it just cracks me up to hear 'war stories' from like 5 years ago;
[05:15] <Stew2> memory issues?
[05:15] <scanwinder> Isn't there a command to remove autopackages??
[05:15] <inc595> Stew2, it works for a fast mp3 player so i'll keep it .. just need to have xine play dvds.. mplayer doen't like 'em lol
[05:15] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: i do have autopackage & gaim listed in 'manage 3rd party software' app; so that's why i passed this info to ya
[05:15] <Arrogant> I'm going to start my download and then stop the job when I need to
[05:15] <thoreauputic> ernesto: you're from brasil, right? Why not /join #ubuntu-pt ?
 regeya, I remember IBM punch cards for computing, try that on.  <- OK, your dick is bigger, let's move on. ;-)
[05:16] <ernesto> thoreau, thanks im going to ubunto-pt
[05:16] <misfit-toy> regeya, your perception, not my intention
[05:16] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, do you know what the program that does "manage 3rd party software" is called?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - hardly anyone there
[05:16] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, maybe i can install it
[05:16] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: that was it called. :)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> ernesto: sorry - no one there, right?
[05:17] <regeya> heh..............
[05:17] <ernesto> thoreau, it true
[05:17] <ernesto> nobody there
[05:17] <jmacs> i have an lcd and when i do `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:17] <Arrogant> ack foreign characters
[05:17] <jmacs> it seems to assume it is a crt assigning refresh rates
[05:17] <regeya> misfit-toy is clearly older than me--how many people here are old enough to remember 8" floppies?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> ernesto: only 5 in #ubuntu-br as well...
[05:18] <dennis_> does anyone know how to release irq?
[05:18] <ernesto> thoreau, it true
[05:18] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: check out autopackage website -> http://autopackage.org/faq.html#2_3
[05:18] <jadam> hi
[05:18] <jadam> how do I check how much freespace I have left on my ubuntu partition?
[05:18] <Arrogant> Anyone know a good MUD client for Linux?
[05:19] <hondje> jadam: df -h
[05:19] <jadam> when I right click on my filesystem and go to properties, it shows -- for free space
[05:19] <jadam> thanks
[05:19] <Arrogant> zMUD doesn't run under Wine, I'm upset.
[05:19] <Arrogant> Since I paid money for it.
[05:19] <misfit-toy> Arrogant, there are hundreds of them at http://freshmeat.net
[05:19] <regeya> in the younger crowds I usually run into people who say "8 in floppies WTF you're making that up"
[05:19] <jmacs> i remember the xfree86 xserver on debian had an option for subpixel rendering if the monitor was a floppy
[05:19] <jmacs> err
[05:19] <jmacs> s/floppy/lcd/
[05:20] <Stew2> how would i start PPPD automatically when starting ubuntu?
[05:20] <mac2> LIST
[05:20] <Stew2> keikoz, zzzz night
[05:20] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, that says there isnt an uninstall utility............
[05:20] <keikoz> :)
[05:20] <learning> can someone please do me a favor and post their hdparm.conf file to pastebin?
[05:20] <Arrogant> regeya, back when floppies were actually floppy? :)
[05:21] <thoreauputic> mac2: heh - this isn't a warez channel
[05:21] <regeya> indeed
[05:21] <Amaranth> 8" floppies?
[05:21] <Amaranth> those are before my time
[05:21] <Amaranth> used those on PDPs or something, didn't you?
[05:21] <joeinspirit> 8" are getting back there.
[05:21] <regeya> I remember 3 1/2" disks really confused computer-illiterate people
[05:21] <Amaranth> 5 1/2" were my first
[05:21] <regeya> "So anyway I stuck my hard disk in the drive"
[05:22] <inc595> learning, where u need it?
[05:22] <ernesto> thoreau and everyone: im completely newbie in linux. i installed ubuntu on a partition and it runs well but i just can open one program. i cant open gaim and firefox at same time,for example
[05:22] <regeya> ahh yes
[05:22] <misfit-toy> regeya, I didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot with you, I sincerely am just amazed at people who have been computing for so little time sounding like hardened vets, it cracks me up....I will withdraw my little jibe and hope to one day have a beer with you.
[05:22] <learning> inc595, nevermind i got it someone else sent it
[05:22] <regeya> remember using a cassette on a ti...don't remember the model
[05:22] <learning> this seems really slow for a hd does it not ?
[05:22] <hondje> I was using it on our C64
[05:22] <learning> /dev/hda:
[05:22] <learning>  Timing cached reads:   368 MB in  2.02 seconds = 182.12 MB/sec
[05:22] <learning>  Timing buffered disk reads:   48 MB in  3.04 seconds =  15.80 MB/sec
[05:22] <nickrud> a couple of times, just to get data off them :)
[05:23] <hondje> thoreauputic: I remember punch cards too....about 6 months ago :-(
[05:23] <regeya> misfit-toy: eh, whatever.  I thought the talk of "pre-phoenix mozilla" was pretty hilarious, but just threw in my bit just b/c I thought to myself, wow, things have changed in my short(!) time with linux
[05:23] <ernesto> thoreau, so when i try open 2 programs at same time,  the computer freezes and the hd runs and dont stop until i reset the coumputer
[05:24] <inc595> k
[05:24] <nickrud> ernesto, in my limited experience, that makes no sense
[05:25] <ernesto> why, nickrud
[05:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey ppl, whats the easiest way to find what modules a SATA Hard drive uses?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> ernesto: yes, but that doesn't tell us much - that's why i asked you to try running a program from the terminal - try something like "nautilus' or "gedit"
[05:25] <regeya> it doesn't seem that long ago since cd-rom drives were an extravegance, really, and windows was a waste of hd space and a memory hog...erm, wait.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hopefully you will see some error output ?
[05:25] <misfit-toy> regeya, you should have seen windows 1.0
[05:25] <ernesto> thoreau, how can i do it using terminal
[05:25] <regeya> I did.  it was horrid.
[05:25] <nickrud> ernesto, it's really weird, as thoreauputic says, try running some stuff from the terminal
[05:25] <misfit-toy> regeya, black and white and ugly as my mama
[05:26] <thoreauputic> ernesto: or run "top" in a terminal and see what is eating your resources
[05:26] <regeya> people complain about modern macs; wonder what they did when MacOS could only run one app at a time?
[05:26] <concept10> misfit-toy, you using ubuntu these days?
[05:26] <regeya> as in, finder and macwrite couldn't run at the same time
[05:26] <dr_willis> regeya,  they bought a lot of macs. :P
[05:26] <regeya> so these things called 'file dialogs' were put into the system
[05:26] <misfit-toy> concept10, hey buddio, I have it on my spare laptop, wassup?
[05:27] <dr_willis> regeya,  or they dident think they needed to run those things.
[05:27] <ernesto> ok i typed top in a terminal window
[05:27] <ernesto> it showing many data
[05:27] <thoreauputic> ernesto: what is at the top of the list?
[05:27] <misfit-toy> concept10, this laptop goes thru about 3 distros a month, I like to check them all out, but I'm still a fedoralito at heart.
[05:27] <concept10> misfit-toy, nothing much, I have it on my laptop now, put fc on desktop
[05:28] <bob_> do I need to install a printer driver?  Print command says print to Generic Postscript,  but nothing happens...   should I rtfm or is there a simple answer?
[05:28] <concept10> fedoralito, lol
[05:28] <ernesto> thoreau,  root
[05:28] <misfit-toy> concept10, I have to say tho, ubuntu is very nice on the resources, it's quick and never hits swap.
[05:28] <ernesto> thoreau, 6030 root
[05:28] <seth_k> bob_: sure, you need to install your printer before using it
[05:28] <concept10> it id
[05:28] <concept10> is
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ernesto: no, that's the user - read the entry on the right that tells you which program is using the most
[05:28] <bob_> ok seth,  is that a system program?
[05:29] <concept10> misfit-toy, I still have a couple of things to get working on here but overall its surprisingly good
[05:29] <ernesto> thoreau, xorg
[05:29] <regeya> I work with people who say they can't keep track of a light schedule because we don't have an office-wide calendaring/messaging system.  Hate to keep bringing you into this, misfit-toy, but am I crazy or aren't calendaring systems a modern invention? ;-)
[05:29] <thoreauputic> ernesto: like X, or gdm or whatever
[05:29] <inc595> so anyone know how to edit what program loads a dvd?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> ernesto: OK - what is the next entry?
[05:29] <misfit-toy> concept10, yeah, the debian backdrop is hard to get used to!
[05:30] <ernesto> thoreau, first is xorg, next is xchat
[05:30] <hondje> inc595: you mean when you insert it, so it runs magically?
[05:30] <ernesto> but it changes constantly
[05:30] <ernesto> xorg is the first, ever
[05:30] <thoreauputic> ernesto: can you see how much CPU xorg is using?
[05:30] <misfit-toy> regeya, there were primitive calendaring apps from way back, but as far as that goes you have to get to when networking became 'prominent' in the office.
[05:30] <slicslak> inc595, check your gnome settings.  somewhere.....
[05:30] <inc595> hondje, yeah automagically.. right now totem tries to play it
[05:30] <concept10> misfit-toy, ahh yes.. the dark side of the force
[05:30] <misfit-toy> regeya, which in my mind happened really *prominently* in the '90's
[05:30] <ernesto> thoreau, yes its 1.0 or 0.7
[05:31] <misfit-toy> concept10, heh
[05:31] <fr500> ernesto, what is the overall cpu usage, i had a similar problem recently
[05:31] <regeya> thin clients...heh, I think it'd be funny to introduce a system as a 'thin client architecture' and install terminals on peoples' desks.
[05:31] <ernesto> thoreau, where i can see total cpu usage ?
[05:31] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - I think you are looking in the wrong place - what % is xorg using?
[05:31] <hondje> inc595: in gnome, go system -> preferences -> removable drives and multimedia, click 'multimedia' tab
[05:32] <concept10> I need to enable a root account, im tired of typing sudo
[05:32] <misfit-toy> regeya, hit sourceforge and check the ultimate light easy to use 'webcalendar', I believe it's number 9 on the most downloaded list on the left.
[05:32] <hondje> inc595: for xine, I use xine --auto-play --auto-scan dvd
[05:32] <inc595> hondje, ah.. you are a lifesaver .. lol thanx
[05:32] <misfit-toy> concept10, lmao, I KNOW
[05:32] <hondje> inc595: No problem
[05:32] <thoreauputic> concept10: then just type sudo -s, and you'll have a root shell
[05:32] <misfit-toy> ok, cigar time, concept10 knows my routine...bbiab
[05:33] <misfit-toy> ;p
[05:33] <inc595> ok gotta test it.. wish me luck
[05:33] <regeya> gaim???!?
[05:33] <ernesto> thoreau, xorg %cpu = 0.74  %mem = 15.3
[05:33] <SeamusLP> concept10:  want to know a little trick?
[05:33] <SeamusLP> concept10:  sudo bash ;)
[05:33] <darshu> SeamusLP:   Better yet.  sudo -s
[05:33] <ernesto> thoreau, it's my stats
[05:34] <inc595> hondje, it's works quite nicely
[05:34] <SeamusLP> darshu:  Ah yes, it is even better
[05:34] <hondje> inc595: Glad to hear :) Never gives me trouble
[05:34] <thoreauputic> ernesto: OK that's fine then - at the top where it says CPU(s): - what does that line show?
[05:35] <concept10> I know that trick, I mean just being in a password less root enviroment is usefull to me
[05:35] <ernesto> 1.0%us   0.3sys 0.0ni 99id 0.0wa 0.0hi 0.0si
[05:35] <WiredMunkey> how do i get the wpaclient to install? it is saying md5sum mismatch
[05:35] <mae> Anyone happen to get *any* suspend or hibernation working with an hp zd7000
[05:35] <WiredMunkey> when i try to install with eithe synaptic or command line apt-get
[05:35] <fr500> ernesto, new instalation?
[05:36] <inc595> hondje, well I was just setting it up .. what a pain to get dvd support on ubuntu... this is my family computer .. used to run windoze on it but this nasty virus shot up cpu usage to 100% all the time .. so gave me an excuse to put ubuntu on it
[05:36] <quam> suspend and hibernation are evil :p
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: switch repo's
[05:36] <ernesto> yes
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: US and CA archives are b0rked right now
[05:36] <fr500> ernesto, mine started habinf probs after i did some wacky recompiles
[05:36] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - that loos normal as well - yet everything freezes if you run another app ?
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: switch /etc/apt/sources.list to use http://archive.ubuntu.com for now
[05:36] <WiredMunkey> ah to which one?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> *looks
[05:36] <hondje> inc595: dvd caused me a bit of work, too...that part I ran into while digging around gnome
[05:36] <WiredMunkey> okay
[05:36] <mae> quam: from what i've gotten going, the only thing I can really do with my laptop is shut it completely down.. not very good for mobility
[05:36] <ernesto> thoreau, see my swap status
[05:37] <ernesto> 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 20000k cached
[05:37] <inc595> hondje, yeah this is the first box with more then 500MHz cpu power that's i've run ubuntu on.. so much faster
[05:38] <hondje> inc595: just remember to have dma going for your dvd drive, much smoother
[05:38] <ernesto> Memory 110812 total   108788 used     2008 free    356 buffers
[05:38] <thoreauputic> ernesto: 0k free? how much swap do you have?
[05:38] <quam> mae: search synaptic for laptop
[05:38] <inc595> hondje, yeah set that up from the FAQ's
[05:38] <lynx913> Hello. Can anyone help? i'd like to know if the timing of a subtitle could be changed in Xine, VLC, or totem. Because the subtitles is not synchronized with the Audio/Video.
[05:38] <inc595> dvd is running like a champ
[05:38] <quam> mae: i believe there are some laptop packages that improve hibernation/suspend functionality
[05:38] <ernesto> thoreau, when i created the ubuntu partition i didnt created the swap partion
[05:39] <lynx913> By the way, the subtitles is an external .srt file.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> ernesto: :/
[05:39] <mae> quam: thanks for the lead
[05:39] <ernesto> i tried to do it later using partition magic
[05:39] <thoreauputic> ernesto: why? because you thought you had plenty of RAM?
[05:39] <quam> sorry to be one of those jackasses that send you somewhere else :P but that's all i can think of.
[05:39] <quam> im a noob here though, stick around and maybe someone else can help
[05:39] <mae> :)
[05:39] <ernesto> no... im just a noob and i forget about it
[05:39] <mae> i'm actually using kubuntu, but only difference is desktop..
[05:40] <thoreauputic> ernesto: I think that might be the problem... not sure though
[05:40] <quam> yeah, i loaded kubuntu, came back to gnome :p
[05:40] <ernesto> using partition magic at windows xp i tried to repair the error but i dont know i had success
[05:40] <osynic> anyone know why I keep getting errors like this?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> ernesto: if it's a new install, maybe the easiest thing is to try again (I know that's a windowsish solution)
[05:41] <osynic> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libu/libusb/libusb-dev_0.1.8-17ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[05:41] <mae> I was a gnome guy for a long time, but the development is stagnant when you compare it too kde.. i was on the *general* mailing list for gnome-dev and i get maybe a few emails every month.. kde has tons of activity i get like 50 emails a day just from kopete-dev
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: us archive is messed up
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: use http://archive.ubuntu.com for now
[05:41] <osynic> k
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: you can switch that in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <ernesto> thoreau, should i redo the ubuntu install  ?
[05:42] <quam> mae: my problem is im gullable. i've let people convince me t switch back and forth between the two about 20 times already :P
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: well, it might be easier for you  to do that , since you are new to Ubuntu
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: it's hard to fix it on IRC, anyway
[05:42] <Ninwa> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and when it seemed to have gone well but when I booted up and did startx I get an error saying X couldn't be found
[05:42] <mae> quam: kde4 looks _very_ promising.
[05:42] <ernesto> should i have 3 partitions :  windows xp, ubuntu and a swap partition ?
[05:42] <mae> they are going to establish HIG
[05:42] <mae> just like gnome
[05:42] <mae> (human interface guidelines)
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: yes - the installer should make the swap for you
[05:42] <quam> glad you said what that was :P otherwise it was over my head
[05:43] <ernesto> ok...
[05:43] <quam> afk2smoke :P
[05:43] <ernesto> thoreau, dont worry... reinstall will be easy to me...
[05:44] <ernesto> I hope dont forget about swap again :-)
[05:44] <Ninwa> no server "X" found, and it goes on to say that a possible server is Xorg...
[05:45] <IcemanV9> ernesto: you don't have to reinstall winxp .. ya know. just ubuntu. also, thoreauputic just said that the installer WILL create a swap partition for ya. :)
[05:45] <nonix> aku bisa gabung?
[05:45] <ernesto> iceman, ok
[05:45] <nonix> testing
[05:45] <bob_> do I have to restart ubuntu for it to recognize a USB printer?
[05:46] <kanzen> hi again. I'm getting an md5mismatch when installing dpkg-dev. apt-cache show says the md5 checksum should be 01ea0fecc30265a3930f4c9c53479e72 but the actual checksum is 1ec650bc88a9594f0296552fd644176c
[05:46] <^thehatsrule^> bob_, i doubt it
[05:46] <IIIEars> bob_ - no - you should be fine.
[05:46] <duende> kanzen: i came in for the same problem, just with different packages
[05:46] <ernesto> iceman and thoreau, but i dont remember about installer making any question to me about create a swap partition... how does it happe? 4
[05:46] <Th4tBa5t4rd> us respositories have been having issues for a couple days now
[05:46] <seth_k> kanzen: us archive is borked
[05:46] <seth_k> kanzen: switch to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <seth_k> duende, same for you :P
[05:47] <bob_> which program sets up the printer driver?  I dont see an icon in system setup section
[05:47] <kanzen> seth_k: thanks!
[05:47] <mae> linux acpi is borked :(
[05:47] <Th4tBa5t4rd> look up adding repositories and change to uk or some such
[05:47] <IIIEars> bob_ - the only real reason to restart linux is to update the system kernel. - Unless you want too ;)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> ernesto: the easiest way is to let ubuntu install on the free space
[05:47] <seth_k> bob_ : System > Administration > Printing ?
[05:47] <duende> seth_k: yip, got it, tnx
[05:47] <ernesto> ok
[05:47] <duende> seth_k: one note tho, i'm getting the same on the ca server, not sure if it's the same problem or not
[05:48] <seth_k> duende: yep
[05:48] <kanzen> just out of curiousity, is something broken or did the us repository get owned?
[05:48] <seth_k> CA and US
[05:48] <seth_k> GB is ok
[05:48] <seth_k> so is main
[05:48] <duende> k, tnx
[05:48] <ernesto> thoreau, iceman, nickrud and everyone thanks for your help !!!!!!!4
[05:48] <thoreauputic> ernesto: no problem - good luck !
[05:48] <flodine> can someone help with a gforce 6200 card
[05:48] <IcemanV9> ernesto: also, you will see the partition information as well.
[05:49] <ernesto> ok iceman... thx everyone4!
[05:49] <IIIEars> Hi flodine - what is the trouble?
[05:49] <TokenBad> anyone been able to get the codecs for I don't understand this...I still can't save files to my other drive...I can send files to people and access them from root terminal..but from in gnome I can't save to it...
[05:49] <flodine> anyone just got the Geforce 6200 and ubuntu gives me a black screen after loading drivers
[05:49] <TokenBad> oops
[05:49] <TokenBad> forget that first part of that
[05:49] <glDaher> Hello, just rebooted from my first installation, I couldn't find the ppp over eithernet thing
[05:49] <glDaher> how do I connect to the internet?
[05:50] <flodine> is my card not supported
[05:50] <TokenBad> glDaher, you are on the net..if your here
[05:50] <nonix> alooo
[05:50] <glDaher> am on windows ;)
[05:50] <TokenBad> ahh
[05:50] <TokenBad> you have cable or dsl or dialup?
[05:50] <glDaher> dsl
[05:50] <nonix> bububu
[05:51] <TokenBad> ethernet card or built on?
[05:51] <flodine> IIIEars you there
[05:51] <glDaher> two eithernet cards, one active with the dsl modem one offline
[05:51] <TokenBad> hmm
[05:51] <mae> oh how i loathe hibernation
[05:51] <TokenBad> when I installed it detected mine right off
[05:52] <glDaher> it did detect both, one offline (cable unplugged) ... and the one connected to the modem seem to be active
[05:52] <IIIEars> flodine - you are using the nvidia binaries from their site and you updated your kernel following the how to in ubuntu's nvidia binary howto?
[05:52] <glDaher> seemed **
[05:52] <IcemanV9> glDaher: pppoeconf
[05:52] <flodine> no
[05:52] <glDaher> IcemanV9: thx, I'll reboot and will be right back
[05:53] <glDaher> thx TokenBad too
[05:53] <glDaher> later
[05:53] <TokenBad> sorry couldn't be more help
[05:53] <TokenBad> now if can just figure out my problem
[05:53] <TokenBad> heheh
[05:54] <IIIEars> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto flodine this will have you using your speedy video. :)
[05:55] <flodine> thxs
[05:55] <TokenBad> anyone know why I can't save files from within gnome to my other drive
[05:55] <TokenBad> like if I go to download a file from the net
[05:55] <TokenBad> it will not let me save to any dir but my home dir
[05:55] <dr_willis> the other drive is what? mounted how?
[05:56] <TokenBad> its windows drive
[05:56] <TokenBad> so fat32
[05:56] <kanzen> so in ubuntu is apt-get still the perferred method or is aptitude the way to go?
[05:56] <squinn> apt-get
[05:56] <squinn> i'm assuming
[05:56] <squinn> or synaptic
[05:56] <TokenBad> and mounted as in did  mount /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[05:56] <TokenBad> to mount to windows dir
[05:56] <thoreauputic> kanzen: aptitude is fine
[05:56] <kanzen> synaptic?
[05:56] <kanzen> oh the gui thing?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> kanzen: use either apt-get or aptitude, according to taste :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  permission issues. perhaps set up the fstab to use the uid/gid/ and user and umask optins to all either one or all users to mount it.
[05:57] <JohnnyQuest> how do i log in as a root in ubuntu?
[05:57] <IIIEars> Token bad mount -o? mount -t?
[05:57] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: set a root password first
[05:57] <bob_> EVERYTHING JUST WORKS!!!  NO BLUE SCREENS...  UNBELIEVABLE.  I'm never going back to the dark side   lol
[05:57] <JohnnyQuest> i have one set
[05:57] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: sudo passwd root
[05:58] <rwg> Hi.  Is there something funny going on with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting MD5 errors from downloaded .debs (curl and libstdc++6 4.0).
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> i use root when im in the terminal
[05:58] <thoreauputic> rwg: /topic
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> but i dont know how to just log in as the root
[05:58] <TokenBad> dr_willis, I tried to use fstab..but the way I did it..wouldn't work
[05:58] <IIIEars> bob- Welcome!
[05:58] <TokenBad> so not sure how to do it in fstab
[05:58] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: what happens when you use the root username and password at the login prompt, johnnyquest?
[05:58] <kanzen> and how ar eyou trying to login?
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> it tells me that snot a username
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> when i start it up
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> and at the log in screen
[05:59] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  this is a common 'problem' - i forget the exact way to do it. It depend son other details as to what exactly uou want. I normally set the uid,gid, and users/user option in fstab. to let the one user I use, mount and r/w the drive
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> i typed root and then pw
[05:59] <thoreauputic> rwg: sorry, seems the topic has been changed.. :/
[05:59] <rwg> thoreauputic: What part of the topic?  I'm not using breezy yet -- really.
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> and it told me that wasnt a real user name
[05:59] <bob_> tks for print help.  need to print python wxwidgets scripts.  Very elegant language,  simple to learn and use too
[05:59] <TokenBad> right but don't know how to do that
[05:59] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  you mean in the X login screen?
[05:59] <TokenBad> one user here tried to help
[05:59] <TokenBad> but his way he tried not work either
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> in the one it boots up to?
[05:59] <IIIEars> TokenBad - curious need more info to know if it is a problem with user rights or the way/where it is mounted...
[05:59] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: oh you're using gdm/xdm type of thing?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> rwg: right - the topic until yesterday said the US and Ca sources were b0rked
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> i guess...
[06:00] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  try it from the console?
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> im trying to intsall something and i need to modify the .profile
[06:00] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: just out of curiosity, why do you want to do that as root?
[06:00] <dr_willis> its possible that GDM/XDM or whtever is not letting root startup X that way
[06:00] <thoreauputic> rwg: evidently that is still the case
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> and im restricted from doing it
[06:00] <randabis> sudo won't do the trick?
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> but i can do things with sudo and root stuff once im in but it has to be in teh terminal
[06:00] <kanzen> johnyquest: you'll have to configure gdm to AllowRootLogin
[06:00] <kanzen> then restart gdm (or reboot)
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> how do i configure that?
[06:00] <gskillet> Help Requested: Problem with Wireless PCMCIA Card - Card worked fine initially, problem started after removing the card and then re-inserting it into the PCMCIA slot - Now Ubuntu will not use the card and refers to it as: No device found for eth1.  The last time I had this problem I was forced to re-install Ubuntu, can someone help me figure out what to do?  (So far I have tried re-inserting Orinoco drivers and re-installing PCMCIA packages)
[06:00] <rwg> thoreauputic: Hmmm, okay, thanks.  I guess I'll give uk.* a try and see if it's similarly broken.
[06:01] <IIIEars> TokenBad - you have tried sudo -s (to get a root trminal) and then nautilus?
[06:01] <thoreauputic> rwg: afaik uk is alright
[06:01] <dr_willis> a .profile is in each users home dir.. thers a system wide similer file that root can edit.
[06:01] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: I don't use gdm, so I can't give yout he exact answer. However if you google search for gdm allow root, you should be ablet o find the answer pretty quickly
[06:01] <dr_willis> hmm is .profile even used much these days?
[06:01] <TokenBad> but its not that IIIEars...its when I want to download a file from the internet and save to that drive cause of limited space on my os drive
[06:01] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:01] <randabis> my damn brand new phone charger broke :/
[06:01] <kanzen> I'm assuming that ubuntu uses gdm, someone eles will have to confirm
[06:01] <JohnnyQuest> i need it for qt3
[06:01] <dennis_> does anyone know how to release irq?
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> i need qtmultithreading
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> so that i can install mythtv
[06:02] <bob_> wxwindows vs pyqt guis..  is pyqt a better api? or easier to use?  any comments welcome
[06:02] <hondje> qt is so nice :-(
[06:02] <IIIEars> TokenBad - only when you transfer a file from the 'net directly to the other spare drive/partition?
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> but to install that, i need to be able to log in as root..
[06:02] <TokenBad> yeah...
[06:02] <zonie> hello people
[06:02] <randabis> everyone needs qts in their life :p
[06:02] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: you can't do it with sudo?
[06:02] <TokenBad> I can access from root terminal and stuff
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how to open the file from the terminal
[06:03] <TokenBad> but I checked permissions on that..and its same settings as my home dir
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> i want to open the .profile file and modify it
[06:03] <glDaher> hey am here :)
[06:03] <hondje> JohnnyQuest: nano or vim
[06:03] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest:  gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:03] <TokenBad> could also do root terminal
[06:03] <randabis> sudo -s
[06:03] <TokenBad> and do pico .profile
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> and that will open it and allow me to edit it?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> glDaher: from windows? or ???
[06:04] <glDaher> #init 4  -- doesn't work for me =/
[06:04] <Arrogant> Anyone know how to get gnome to have a flashing tasklist for urgent windows?
[06:04] <thoreauputic> of course
[06:04] <glDaher> nope from ubuntu :D
[06:04] <kanzen> johnny: what editor are you familiar with?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> coolio! :)
[06:04] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know...
[06:04] <IcemanV9> easy, wasn't it?
[06:04] <JohnnyQuest> im new to linux
[06:04] <kanzen> nano is pretty easy to use
[06:04] <kanzen> sudo nano <file>
[06:04] <zenrox> gedit is even easer
[06:04] <glDaher> yeah, but I was looking for pppoe not pppoeconf my bad
[06:04] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: I suggest you run gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:05] <JohnnyQuest> thats wat im gonna try
[06:05] <bleck> does anyone know how to change permissions of say a folder, and all files in that folder at the same time
[06:05] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: that will give you a nice graphical editor
[06:05] <kanzen> thoreauputic: isn't that an oxymoron?
[06:05] <TokenBad> so anyone got idea on why can't save from inet to my other mounted drive?
[06:05] <glDaher> I now wanna install my nvidia drivers... gotta turn x down... init 4 doesn't work as other distros o.O
[06:05] <hondje> bleck: chown <newowner> -R directory
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kanzen: ;)
[06:05] <kanzen> :)
[06:05] <hondje> bleck: chown changes owner, -R makes it recursive
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kanzen: ed! ed is the editor!
[06:05] <dr_willis> glDaher,  alt-ctrl-backspace may kick it in the head. :P
[06:06] <bleck> ahhh, kewl thans!
[06:06] <kanzen> haha
[06:06] <forced> hondje: chmod... chown only changes the owner, chmod changes the permissions. -R still holds true.
[06:06] <glDaher> dr_willis: this shall restart it, not?
[06:06] <bleck> so chmod with -r switch works too...
[06:06] <forced> -R yes.
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kanzen: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt
[06:06] <bleck> out of morbid curiosity, any way to do it in nautilus?
[06:06] <TokenBad> this is what I have in fstab: /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:06] <hondje> I misread him wanting to chown, whoops :)
[06:06] <synd-> hey guys im havin a bit of trouble getting my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCMCIA card workin
[06:06] <dr_willis> glDaher,  it will kill off X instantly.. and gdm should restart.. or i think you can restart the gdm service also
[06:07] <synd-> any help? i realize that I'm going to have to get ndiswrapper to get it working
[06:07] <^thehatsrule^> wtf deuce
[06:07] <^thehatsrule^> :/
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> i think that worked
[06:07] <Amaranth> he left so i can't warn him
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> now lets hope i modified the file correctly
[06:07] <bleck> (i should read the man pages before i come here :P sorry to bug you guys with simple questions)
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> i dont understand the man pages :(
[06:08] <bigfoot1> hello, how can i have mplayer run in fullscreen mode? In terminal, i do "mplayer -fs foo.avi". The window _does_ open in fullscreen, but the movie file is not fullscreen. Thank you!
[06:08] <IIIEars> JohnnyQuest - They are better as a reminder. :x
[06:08] <JohnnyQuest> o ok
[06:08] <bleck> bigfoot1: i know i had to change the preferences in the video tab in mplayer... to opengl or something like that, just make sure the correct drivers are installed
[06:08] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: that's normal
[06:08] <randabis> bigfoot1: could be the movie file...might be a widescreen flick
[06:08] <TokenBad> IIIEars, this is what I have in fstab: /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:08] <TokenBad> is that right?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: takes a while to get into understanding man pages at all
[06:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:09] <glDaher> dr_willis: I want it off, not restarted...
[06:09] <glDaher> runlevel 4
[06:09] <bigfoot1> randabis, the movie file _can_ open in fullscreen in other players (vlc, totem, xine).
[06:09] <randabis> ok then
[06:09] <randabis> follow bleck's advice then I suppose
[06:09] <bleck> bigfoot1: change it from xv in the video tab
[06:09] <bigfoot1> bleck, i was able to run fullscreen in mplayer before ,but i forgot the command.
[06:09] <randabis> I don't use mplayer
[06:09] <bigfoot1> from xv to what, bleck?
[06:09] <bigfoot1> oh, to opengl.
[06:09] <bigfoot1> okay.
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: or try the -zoom option
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: or install xine ;-)
[06:10] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay. I'll try that. This "-zoom" command sounds familar.
[06:10] <IIIEars> TokenBad - And it seems similar to the other entries? - beginning to think it is a permission problem or process permission problem
[06:11] <TokenBad> IIIEars, this is one of the other entries: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:11] <IIIEars> TokenBad - someone else will know better if it is a permission problem.
[06:11] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, actually, I have xine installed, and I do prefer xine. But I need to use mplayer because I don't know whether Xine, totem, vlc can delay/change the timing of subtitles. AFAIK, only mplayer can do this.
[06:11] <ablyss> on the keyboard pressing 'f' will toggle fullscreen in mplayer
[06:11] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I see
[06:12] <bigfoot1> ablyss, yes, that's true. But in these instances, F will make the window fullscreen, but keeps the movie at the same size.
[06:12] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I don't know either...
[06:12] <TokenBad> how would I found out the permissions on that drive?
[06:12] <nalioth> TokenBad: whats up?
[06:12] <bleck> bigfoot1: thats exactly how mine was, till i changed from xv driver, to opengl... just make sure your video card drivers are installed
[06:12] <TokenBad> still trying to get that drive working nalioth
[06:12] <TokenBad> so can save to it
[06:12] <bigfoot1> bleck, what's the difference between opengl and xv?
[06:13] <chillywilly> *yawn*
[06:13] <nalioth> TokenBad: give me a minute
[06:13] <TokenBad> how you doing nalioth...thanks for talking to me last night and trying to help me
[06:13] <TokenBad> you got further than I would have
[06:13] <bleck> bigfoot1: the driver it's using the output the video
[06:13] <bigfoot1> bleck, by the way, my preferences are currently set to XWindows (No Xv) in the gstreamer-properties command.
[06:13] <bigfoot1> bleck, do you know how to delay subtitles in xine, totem, or vlc?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I think -zoom should work
[06:14] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay. will do it now.
[06:14] <bleck> bigfoot1: don't use subtitles... dont watch much on the computer, cept porn... don't need subtitles for that :P
[06:14] <mythtv> HELP! compile kernel error
[06:14] <mythtv> Missing /usr/src/linux/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/abi/2.6.10-34.2/abiname file.
[06:14] <mythtv> make: *** [clean]   1
[06:14] <kanzen> *loud moaning*
[06:15] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, you're right it works. I hope to remember this -zoom command.
[06:15] <nalioth> TokenBad: defaults,umask=0000
[06:16] <misael> hello
[06:16] <TokenBad> isn't that close to what it has?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: personally, I hardly ever use mplayer: it's a pain - I have to re-read the man all the time to get it to do virtually anything
[06:16] <ablyss> alias mplayer="mplayer -zoom"
[06:16] <TokenBad> see /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:16] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i agree with you.
[06:16] <nalioth> TokenBad: try it, a 0 can make a difference
[06:16] <TokenBad> ok
[06:16] <misael> how do you install realplayer on ubuntu
[06:17] <bigfoot1> I just wish the other players could at least all the features that mplayer has, such as subtitle delay adjusting/snchronizing.
[06:17] <misael> or wmp
[06:17] <TokenBad> should I reboot nalioth or is there another way?
[06:17] <nalioth> TokenBad: defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:17] <bigfoot1> misael, are you talking to me? 8-)
[06:17] <bleck> misael: check www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:17] <nalioth> try the last one
[06:17] <misael> yep
[06:17] <Nige> ello
[06:17] <kanzen> misael: apt-get install helix-player
[06:17] <bleck> misael: all instructions for those things are there
[06:17] <Nige> anyone know how to get wpa working
[06:17] <ablyss> gmplayer is the graphical mplayer... it has nice skins
[06:17] <bigfoot1> wmp is windows media player?
[06:17] <mythtv> does anyone can help me ,I meet kernel compile error
[06:18] <misael> i am new to ubuntu
[06:18] <Nige> i am newbie
[06:18] <Nige> but i got the nic to work thus fr
[06:18] <kanzen> misael: then you should listen to bleck's suggestion :)
[06:18] <misael> ok
[06:18] <misael> cool
[06:18] <bigfoot1> what's helix-player, kanzen?
[06:19] <TokenBad> so it would look like this nalioth: /dev/hdd1 /home/windows/ vfat defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000?
[06:19] <kanzen> it's the "open-source" version of real-player
[06:19] <Nige> used the ndiswrapppers
[06:19] <tehmasp> why do i get something of the like 'VFS ext3 partition not found /dev/hda3' (can't remember exactly) , I made /dev/hda3 reiserfs during install.  Is this because reiserfs is built into the kernel as a module?
[06:19] <kanzen> bigfoot1: https://helixcommunity.org/
[06:20] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: erm - that will only work for root - is that what you want?
[06:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: try it
[06:20] <TokenBad> but is that how it should look?
[06:20] <TokenBad> and then once set it
[06:20] <TokenBad> do I need to reboot the computer?
[06:21] <randabis> modules are not built into the kernel
[06:21] <codomaniac> hi i tried booting ubuntu live CD on AMD athlon
[06:21] <nalioth> TokenBad: run with it
[06:21] <randabis> if they were then they wouldn't be modules
[06:21] <IcemanV9> mplayer crashed when playing dvd .. but it works great in firefox
[06:21] <codomaniac> it boots and then stops :(
[06:21] <kanzen> tehmasp: you either need to recompile with reiser as a built in or run mkinitrd
[06:21] <codomaniac> what may be reason ????
[06:22] <TokenBad> nalioth, should I reboot the computer once done? or just restart the gnome or what?
[06:22] <IIIEars> codomaniac - it boots to the desk then the mouse and keyboard lock?
[06:22] <tehmasp> kanzen, ok thanks
[06:22] <misael> after i go to that website bleck what do i do next
[06:22] <kanzen> how did you compile the kernel, tehmasp
[06:22] <kanzen> ?
[06:22] <ablyss> codomaniac.. any scratches on the cd ?
[06:22] <codomaniac> ablyss: nah
[06:23] <tehmasp> kanzen, i didn't , it still booted up fine and everything was alright,
[06:23] <misael> bleck
[06:23] <misael> are you there
[06:23] <codomaniac> IIIEars: it shows initial booting ....then it hangs ....with x-windows not showing at all
[06:23] <ablyss> i literally tried 4 or 5 times to install ubuntu on my athlon... to finally noticed this long scratch across my cd.. i burned a new one and installed fine the first try
[06:24] <glDaher> k, another question, just downloaded opera.deb file, and tried to add a repository to the pkgman
[06:24] <glDaher> donno how to do that... =/
[06:25] <TokenBad> still not letting me write to that drive
[06:25] <kanzen> TokenBad: who are you trying to write as?
[06:25] <nalioth> TokenBad: we'll get it
[06:26] <glDaher> dpkg -i ... got it
[06:26] <randabis> glDaher: etc/apt/sources.list is the file you edit to add repositories
[06:26] <TokenBad> as normal user kanzen
[06:26] <randabis> dpkg -i is what you use for installing debs
[06:26] <kanzen> what are the permissions of your mount point?
[06:26] <nalioth> TokenBad: it isn that diffecult, i'm just not in front of a pc
[06:26] <TokenBad> ah
[06:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 root     root     65536 1969-12-31 16:00 windows
[06:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x   23 tokenbad tokenbad  4096 2005-06-11 21:23 tokenbad
[06:26] <TokenBad> look at that
[06:26] <TokenBad> windows is the mounted drive
[06:26] <TokenBad> tokenbad is the dir I can save to
[06:27] <matthew_w> Hey, what do you type into the terminal to add multiverse and universe to synaptic?
[06:27] <glDaher> randabis: if I add my /home/username/download for example, to my soruces will they be available in the pkgman?
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> is there any way to get the Middle click to scroll when i drag and click?
[06:27] <kanzen> TokenBad: only root can write to that mountpoing (windows)
[06:27] <kanzen> mountpoint, rather
[06:27] <TokenBad> ok how fix it?
[06:28] <kanzen> TokenBad: do you want anyone else to bea ble to write to it other than yourself?
[06:28] <matthew_w> There's some command I have to run... I just forget what it is.
[06:28] <TokenBad> kanzen, I am only person to use this computer
[06:28] <kanzen> ifnot sudo chown tokenbad:tokenbad windows
[06:28] <ablyss> apt-get --help
[06:28] <cwd__> has anyone else noticed a lot of md5 mismatches in hoary or is it just something on my end?
[06:29] <ablyss> not me cwd__
[06:29] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: for a vfat partition you don't need the uid= and gid= options in fstab
[06:29] <bob2> cwd__: us.archive.ubuntu.com wasscrewed
[06:29] <bob2> use archive.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <cwd__> cool
[06:29] <cwd__> thanks
[06:29] <wc_nix> nalioth, you there?
[06:29] <ablyss> hi bob2
[06:29] <nalioth> TokenBad: user,auto,rw,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:29] <bob2> hi
[06:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: yessire
[06:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: tired tired but here
[06:29] <wc_nix> i went to the x86 release
[06:29] <wc_nix> i386
[06:29] <dr_willis> in the past i set uid and gid to the # of the one user i wanted to have access.
[06:30] <TokenBad> ok so do it without the gid and uid?
[06:30] <TokenBad> or with it?
[06:30] <wc_nix> for some reason it's missing GCC or thinks it is
[06:30] <matthew_w> Can someone tell me how to add multiverse to synaptic...? XD
[06:30] <dr_willis> but it depends on your needs I guess.
[06:30] <nalioth> matthew_w: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list <enter>
[06:30] <thoreauputic> nalioth: why are you persisiting with the uid= and gid= ? They aren't needed
[06:30] <kanzen> TokenBad: did you try just changing the ownership with cown?
[06:30] <wc_nix> i tried to compile something and it gave me errors
[06:30] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[06:30] <kanzen> TokenBad: chown rather
[06:30] <TokenBad> ok where it has tokenbad:tokenbad is the second should be my pass?
[06:30] <nalioth> the gid and uid are Group ID and User ID, they are both set for ALL USERS and ALL GROUPS
[06:30] <bob2> wc_nix: you'd need to install a compiler oon ubuntu if you wanted to use it..
[06:31] <bob2> nalioth: er, that's not how it works
[06:31] <randabis> glDaher: no don't do that.
[06:31] <bob2> setting uid=0 means root owns the files
[06:31] <IIIEars> wc_nix - do you have "build-essential" in synaptic?
[06:31] <wc_nix> GCC is needed to install many types of software
[06:31] <thoreauputic> nalioth: no, thhey are set for root in your example
[06:31] <bob2> you only need to touch umask, setting it to 002
[06:31] <kanzen> TokenBad: no.. the second tokenbad is your group
[06:31] <nalioth> bob2: i'm tired, though uid and gid set to 000 was 'open to all folks"
[06:31] <bob2> nalioth: no
[06:31] <wc_nix> synaptic?
[06:31] <nalioth> thoreauputic: bob2 can y'all help TokenBad
[06:31] <nalioth> i'm tired an not thinkin straight
[06:31] <wc_nix> oh the package manager
[06:31] <matthew_w> Ok, I see universe in there... So, if I wanted to add the multiverse, copy the line and just replace universe with multiverse..?
[06:32] <bob2> thoreauputic: do umask=000
[06:32] <glDaher> ok randabis I'd trust you, but I want this qt thing for my opera.deb... I got this error E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[06:32] <nalioth> wc_nix: use apt to install 'build-essential'
[06:32] <TokenBad> uh oh
[06:32] <nalioth> wc_nix: and also "checkinstall"
[06:32] <TokenBad> I just tried to go to root terminal
[06:32] <IIIEars> wc_nix - you can apt get it also - hey i'm new gui's are friendly - grin
[06:32] <TokenBad> and its giving error
[06:32] <thoreauputic> bob2: yes, i know that - i was just trying to correct the other error
[06:32] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:32] <bob2> glDaher: it's in hoary
[06:32] <bob2> thoreauputic: oops, sorry, not you
[06:32] <bob2> I know you know :)
[06:32] <kanzen> umask overrides the permissions on the mount point?
[06:32] <randabis> glDaher: probably need the qt packages
[06:32] <nalioth> matthew_w: no, just space over a couple after the word 'universe" and add multiverse
[06:33] <randabis> glDaher: no need to google
[06:33] <bob2> glDaher: hoary = the current version of ubuntu...
[06:33] <wc_nix> k will do
[06:33] <bob2> glDaher: you're not the same person who was trying to do this yesterday, are you?
[06:33] <randabis> use synaptic to find the qt packages
[06:33] <glDaher> yes right
[06:33] <nalioth> bob2: thoreauputic TokenBad this is irritating me, cuz i just set up 3 puters in teh last 3 weeks with fstabs allowing r/w
[06:33] <glDaher> no not, first time on ubunut
[06:33] <bob2> nalioth: yes, with umask=000
[06:33] <glDaher> ubuntu
[06:34] <matthew_w> Any ideas how to get ubuntu to accurately read my laptop battery/
[06:34] <bob2> glDaher: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:34] <nalioth> bob2: i'm so tired atm, i don't even know..
[06:34] <TokenBad> ok new problem before can finish working with drive problem
[06:34] <matthew_w> I get absolutely nothing, says I have "unknown battery life" etc...
[06:34] <TokenBad> how come now when go to my root terminal it gives me error?
[06:34] <kanzen> TokenBad: what is the error?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> nalioth: get some sleep, man :)
[06:35] <matthew_w> Dmesg returns AE_NOT_FOUND with acpi a bunch of times.
[06:35] <nalioth> matthew_w: is your acpi up to date? or is your laptop super new?
[06:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: and what do you mean by "go to my root teminal"?
[06:35] <bob2> TokenBad: you need to be more specific about what you mean by "go to root terminal", and what error you get
[06:35] <glDaher> bob2 just did
[06:35] <bob2> nalioth: "acpi up to date"? it's part of the kernel, dude
[06:35] <matthew_w> My laptop is brand new, but I've seen people with working ACER's before.
[06:35] <nalioth> thoreauputic: had some sailors in the cab for the past several hours, been to the 'wrong' part of town, got shot at, all kinds of fun
[06:35] <TokenBad> failed to run /bin/x-terminal-emulator: unable to copy users xauthorization file
[06:35] <TokenBad> thats the error
[06:35] <bob2> glDaher: wow, how did you install it?
[06:35] <kanzen> I like to let my acpi get nice and ripe before using it
[06:35] <nalioth> bob2: ok i'm outta here
[06:35] <thoreauputic> nalioth: :(
[06:35] <bob2> nalioth: 'night
[06:35] <wc_nix> hey nalioth may I PM you the error i'm getting
[06:35] <wc_nix> it's really huge
[06:36] <TokenBad> and what mean is when go to applications system tools root terminal
[06:36] <TokenBad> it ask for pass
[06:36] <TokenBad> I type in pass and it gives that error
[06:36] <bob2> TokenBad: it asks for your user password
[06:36] <TokenBad> and it was working before
[06:36] <TokenBad> bob2 yes
[06:36] <glDaher> bob2 install what?
[06:36] <bob2> glDaher: ubuntu
[06:37] <thoreauputic> glDaher: the only source you have is the CD ?
[06:37] <glDaher> hmmn
[06:37] <glDaher> yes
[06:37] <bob2> glDaher: anyway, you need to uncomment some of the network lines of you want qt
[06:37] <bob2> you presumably have network access, since you downloaded opera
[06:37] <matthew_w> Any ideas on the ... battery thinger? lol
[06:38] <glDaher> oh my n00b ... now makes sense
[06:38] <J35U5> how do i install a .deb?
[06:38] <TokenBad> bob2 I put my pass in and then it gives that error
[06:38] <bob2> J35U5: what is it?
[06:39] <randabis> J35U5: dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:39] <thoreauputic> glDaher: easy way : just uncomment all lines that start with "deb"
[06:39] <J35U5> cedega.
[06:39] <bob2> TokenBad: I can't imagine how the default system could do that, sorry
[06:39] <randabis> thief lolz
[06:39] <randabis> cedega has support forums for its customers
[06:39] <TokenBad> bob2 it was working just a min ago
[06:39] <TokenBad> cause was using it to edit the fstab file
[06:40] <kanzen> TokenBad: what happens if you open a regular terminal and type sudo bash
[06:40] <kanzen> ?
[06:40] <J35U5> randabis, no i purchased it <_<
[06:40] <TokenBad> it changes
[06:40] <TokenBad> tokenbad@c-24-21-29-248:~$ sudo bash
[06:40] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:~#
[06:40] <glDaher> got "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubun ..." for all new sorces =/
[06:40] <TokenBad> but if go to root terminal it will not work
[06:40] <thechitowncubs> is there any way to get the Middle click to scroll when i drag and click?
[06:40] <bob2> glDaher: sudo apt-get update, first
[06:40] <thoreauputic> glDaher: run sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <thoreauputic> bob2: :)
[06:41] <bob2> thechitowncubs: that's app/toolkit specific
[06:41] <kanzen> TokenBad: that is a "root terminal"
[06:41] <TokenBad> I understand that...
[06:41] <thechitowncubs> ok, how bout in firefox...
[06:41] <TokenBad> but why would it not work now when go to applications, system tools, root terminal?
[06:41] <TokenBad> when it worked before
[06:42] <bigfoot1> How do i run an .exe file on ubuntu?
[06:42] <glDaher> am really shy about this ppl, but irc is making ppl lazier everyday
[06:42] <kanzen> TokenBad: most likely you accidentally changed something you didn't mean to. Unforetunately I don't know what that could be.
[06:42] <glDaher> I shall stay here to give help to others too then :)
[06:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: you don't, in general
[06:42] <TokenBad> I haven't changed anything but in fstab
[06:42] <TokenBad> but anyway
[06:42] <TokenBad> back to original problem
[06:42] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, yes, i usually don't. but i don't think i can find a linux equivalent to the program
[06:42] <TokenBad> this is what have in fstab now for problem drive
[06:43] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: wine
[06:43] <TokenBad>  /dev/hdd1 /home/windows/ vfat defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:43] <TokenBad> now
[06:43] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: except with wine, of course
[06:43] <TokenBad> one of you say do it without the gid and uid
[06:43] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, how do i use wine?
[06:43] <TokenBad> so...
[06:43] <bigfoot1> is it a command, Amaranth ?
[06:43] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get install wine winesetuptk
[06:43] <Amaranth> then wine file.exe
[06:43] <Amaranth> from a command line
[06:44] <kanzen> TokenBad: whne you are making changes to fstab are you doing a umount/mount or mount -o remount
[06:44] <kanzen> ?
[06:44] <TokenBad> just umount and then mount
[06:44] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, thanks. I'm now installing it. Does wine run any windows exe file?
[06:44] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: it runs a lot of them
[06:44] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: if it's a game you'll probably need to buy cedega
[06:45] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, if wine runs many programs,why do i hear many complaints that linux has only a few programs?
[06:45] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: you'll see when you run the program in wine :)
[06:45] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: it'll look like shit and may not work
[06:45] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, okie dokie 8-)
[06:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: Ubuntu alone has 16 000 programs or so available...
[06:45] <TokenBad> brb i hope
[06:46] <TokenBad> going to reboot
[06:46] <TokenBad> and hope it lets me back in
[06:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, is there a program to adjust the timing of subtitles?
[06:46] <J35U5> #cedega
[06:46] <randabis> linux has plenty of software available
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I don't know
[06:46] <synd> anyone have a Linksys WPC54G wireless PCMCIA card working with Hoary??
[06:46] <gm78> is there a libmp3lame package for ubuntu hoary....i couldnt see one in synaptic?
[06:47] <hondje> mp3lame, vs regular lame?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> gm78: the lame packages are in multiverse, IIRC
[06:47] <randabis> synd: check if it is supported in the wiki
[06:48] <xterminus> could a bad cdrom drive cause an integrity check to fail on a ubuntu cdrom integrity check?
[06:48] <wan87>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <randabis> xterminus: yeah, or a bad cd
[06:49] <wan87>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:49] <xterminus> randabis, hrm... i just burned the cd a few days ago and installed ubuntu on another mac and it worked
[06:49] <thoreauputic> gm78: you probably need liblame0
[06:49] <xterminus> it's cheap to burn another cd though i guess
[06:50] <gm78> thoreauputic : and thats in multiverse? (enabling it right now)
[06:50] <wan87>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:50] <thoreauputic> gm78: yep
[06:50] <wan87>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:50] <thoreauputic> gm78: if you install lame from multiverse, you get that lib anyway
[06:50] <gm78> ah, ok
[06:51] <thoreauputic> gm78: sudo apt-get install lame will pull in what you need, I expect
[06:53] <matthew_w> If anyone has any solution as to how to get the battery in an ACER reading on ubuntu to be correct... I'd be grateful.
[06:53] <TokenBad> ok got my user stuff fixed
[06:53] <gm78> thoreauputic : thx for ur help
[06:53] <TokenBad> now let me check my mounted drive
[06:54] <thoreauputic> gm78: no problem :)
[06:54] <tetragon> well it looks like people are really sharing gnowledge with the new HOWTOs on the Linux Virtual Server project....but i am not sure why so many are interested
[06:54] <TokenBad> what was the command to change the mounted drive stuff
[06:54] <TokenBad> choun
[06:54] <TokenBad> or something
[06:54] <kanzen> chown
[06:54] <kanzen> chown tokenbad:tokenbad /mount/point
[06:55] <nickrud> matthew_w, this is pretty old, i think, but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer may have some pointers
[06:55] <kanzen> (replace /mount/point with your mount point)
[06:56] <tetragon> is there really anybody that uses a server....why all the increased gnowledge on the Linux Virtual Server
[06:56] <TokenBad> I just get operation not permitted
[06:56] <matthew_w> I'll look, thanks.
[06:56] <kanzen> TokenBad: are you doing it as root?
[06:56] <TokenBad> yes
[06:56] <TokenBad> think so
[06:56] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows
[06:57] <nickrud> matthew_w, most of that stuff is probably still relavent
[06:57] <kanzen> TokenBad: unmount /home/windows && chown tokenbad:tokenbad && mount /home/windows
[06:57] <kanzen> ack
[06:57] <kanzen> TokenBad: unmount /home/windows && chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows && mount /home/windows
[06:57] <kanzen> sorry
[06:57] <TokenBad> so umount it first
[06:58] <TokenBad> then chown it
[06:58] <TokenBad> then mount it?
[06:58] <mae> how do i disable acpi and enable apm instead
[06:58] <kanzen> yes... root shouldn't be getting an opperation not permitted
[06:58] <matthew_w> Thanks nick.. but it basically just told me what is broken, not how to fix it x-x
[06:59] <nickrud> matthew_w, I have clue, sometimes I find clueful links, sometimes not :)
[06:59] <TokenBad> kanzen, I umounted did the chown command and then remounted..
[06:59] <TokenBad> and same problem
[07:00] <nickrud> s/have/have no/
[07:01] <biovore> I am getting a MD5Sum mismatch on xfce4-panel_<IP_ADDRESS>_1ubuntu_i386.deb  :-(
[07:01] <kanzen> TokenBad: define "same problem" I know you can't write to it, but what you are doing exactly that is failing? Also what is the output of the mount command for that partition
[07:01] <kanzen> :?
[07:01] <kanzen> ?
[07:02] <randabis> biovore: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <kanzen> biovore: heh... that's why I came in here (different package) the US and CA repositories are fscked
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # umount /home/windows
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # mount /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[07:02] <biovore> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ .... bla bla
[07:02] <TokenBad> and it just goes back to promt
[07:02] <TokenBad> no responce
[07:02] <nickrud> biovore, us.archive is bad, use archive for now
[07:02] <kanzen> TokenBad: no news is good news with UNIXy operating systems.
[07:03] <kanzen> now try to write to the drive
[07:03] <TokenBad> I did
[07:03] <TokenBad> it wouldn't work
[07:03] <ablyss> lol kanzen
[07:03] <biovore> http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:03] <kanzen> TokenBad: what are you doing to write to the drive?
[07:03] <matthew_w> I find that a lot of people seem to be getting this error with their notebooks.
[07:03] <kanzen> are you copying something over? writing in a file?
[07:03] <nickrud> biovore, yeah, unless you know a local mirror, that might be better
[07:03] <TokenBad> well basicly like said before...I want to be able to download a file from inet...and  have it save to a dir on that drive
[07:04] <kanzen> TokenBad: if you cd /home/windows and type "touch testing123" what happens
[07:04] <jakew1991> very quiet in here...
[07:04] <jakew1991> nvm
[07:04] <TokenBad> just returns to prompt
[07:05] <kanzen> ok... you just wrote to the drive
[07:05] <TokenBad> but I am root
[07:05] <biovore> that worked.. :-)  thanks..
[07:05] <kanzen> if you do ls -l testing123 you should see a 0k file
[07:05] <kanzen> ok... test as yourself "touch testing1234"
[07:06] <nickrud> biovore, it used to be in the topic, I'm not sure why it's not now
[07:06] <TokenBad> touch: cannot touch `testing123': Permission denied
[07:06] <kanzen> type "mount" and copy/paste the line with /home/windows in it
[07:07] <TokenBad> /dev/hdd1 on /home/windows type vfat (rw)
[07:07] <thoreauputic> :/
[07:07] <kanzen> TokenBad: and ls -l /home/windows
[07:07] <kanzen> ?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: no one said to remove the umask=000 option...
[07:08] <TokenBad> i didn't
[07:08] <TokenBad> its in the fstab file
[07:08] <thoreauputic> OK
[07:08] <kanzen> also, what kind of drive is this? is it a regular hard drive or a SD card or soemthing?
[07:08] <TokenBad> ide hard drive
[07:08] <kanzen> ok, if you do ls -ld /home/windows what do you see?
[07:09] <kanzen> sorry, without the cruft: ls -ld /home/windows
[07:09] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 root root 65536 2005-06-11 22:04 /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> TokenBad: umount /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> then: ls -ld /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> and show me the output
[07:10] <TokenBad> tried to umount and says drive is busy now..but nothing is running from that drive
[07:10] <littlezoper> umount -l :)
[07:10] <kanzen> TokenBad: cd out of the drive
[07:11] <TokenBad> kanzen, I am not in the drive
[07:11] <TokenBad> I am at root dir
[07:11] <kanzen> on all windows?
[07:11] <TokenBad> I just have xchat and one terminal open
[07:12] <TokenBad> what is umount -l?
[07:13] <TokenBad> guess can reboot and fix it from being used
[07:14] <glDaher> again, why is it 1024 is the max screen res here?
[07:14] <glDaher> I did install nvidia-glx
[07:14] <biovore> ?
[07:14] <kanzen> TokenBad: type fuser /home/windows
[07:14] <glDaher> isn't that the driver?
[07:14] <biovore> check you mode settings
[07:14] <biovore> horiz & vertical sync
[07:15] <biovore> I am running 1600x1280 with an nvidia card
[07:15] <TokenBad>  /home/windows:        7968
[07:15] <kanzen> TokenBad: type ps -ef|grep 7968
[07:15] <TokenBad> tokenbad  7968     1  0 21:53 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:15] <TokenBad> tokenbad  8826  8562  0 22:15 pts/0    00:00:00 grep 7968
[07:16] <hondje> is bugzilla.ubuntu.com not allowing anyone else to submit bugs?
[07:16] <TokenBad> couldn't I just do fuser -ki /home/windows?
[07:17] <TokenBad> or kill 7968?
[07:17] <kanzen> first try fuser -v /home/windows
[07:17] <hondje> I keep getting ' 'User' is not a valid bug number. It is neither a bug number nor an alias to a bug number. If you are trying to use QuickSearch, you need to enable JavaScript in your browser.' from them
[07:18] <TokenBad>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[07:18] <TokenBad> /home/windows        tokenbad   7968 f....  gam_server
[07:18] <TokenBad>                      root     kernel mount  /home/windows
[07:18] <kanzen> TokenBad: do you have nautilus or something running?
[07:19] <TokenBad> no
[07:19] <TokenBad> like said
[07:19] <TokenBad> just have xchat
[07:19] <TokenBad> and the terminal
[07:19] <kanzen> do you have icons on your desktop?
[07:19] <TokenBad> no
[07:19] <TokenBad> just my cd rom drive
[07:19] <araw1> Is the installation of Ubuntu is GUI ?
[07:20] <kanzen> ok.. so you have an icon on the desktop
[07:20] <qizmo>
[07:20] <kanzen> araw1: depends on yoru definition of GUI, but yes I think it is
[07:20] <TokenBad> not now
[07:20] <TokenBad> ejected the cd
[07:20] <araw1> i mean like, Suse and RedHAt installation
[07:20] <araw1> :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> araw1: no
[07:20] <araw1> ic.. :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> araw1: but it isn't hard
[07:21] <kanzen> TokenBad: nautilus (I'm assuming that is what your running) is monitoring /home/windows
[07:21] <araw1> so, it means all are "command lines"
[07:21] <kanzen> or some other proc is using gam_admin to
[07:21] <araw1> or still there a Mouse pointer
[07:21] <kanzen> araw1: it's not command line based, but it's not high res GUI
[07:21] <araw1> by just clicking
[07:21] <araw1> ah ic
[07:21] <TokenBad> so reboot kanzen ?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> araw1: no mouse - just arrow keys and space bar etc
[07:21] <araw1> how about BLUE colored GUI ?
[07:21] <kanzen> TokenBad: exiting out of X and logging back in should fix it
[07:21] <araw1> just like that ?
[07:22] <kanzen> araw1: it's curses based GUI
[07:22] <TokenBad> ctrl-alt-backspace right?
[07:22] <kanzen> TokenBad: that should do it of i you're using hte default window manager I think system>logout
[07:23] <TokenBad> ok back
[07:23] <kanzen> type: umount /home/windows && ls -ld /home/windows
[07:23] <kanzen> and show me the output
[07:24] <glDaher> got a problem, no screen res above 1024
[07:24] <kanzen> if it doesn't work, reboot, TokenBad
[07:24] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  2 tokenbad tokenbad 4096 2005-06-10 11:54 /home/windows
[07:24] <glDaher> I could get more than that on mandrake
[07:24] <matthew_w> How do I edit the main menubar...?
[07:24] <TokenBad> it shows I can access it that way
[07:24] <TokenBad> but not when its mounted
[07:25] <gm78> how do i disable gpg checking in apt (trying to install a few sarge packages)
[07:25] <matthew_w> More of a gnome question really
[07:25] <gm78> (sid packages i mean)
[07:26] <nickrud> gm78, you can just ignore them, or import debian-keyring into apt-key
[07:26] <nickrud> me, I wouldn't install them :)
[07:26] <greg> hey, i accidently screwed up my gnome, somehow the top bar ended up on the right, and i can't move it back to the top for some reason, any ideas why?
[07:27] <gm78> nickrud : synaptic refuses to install anything that isnt verified....and the packages cant be found elsewhere as far as i can
[07:27] <gm78> tell
[07:27] <nickrud> greg, it's because you can't grab taht thing with the mouse.
[07:27] <greg> nickrud, can i do it manually then?
[07:27] <kanzen> TokenBad: what is the UID/GID for your account? 1000?
[07:28] <nickrud> greg, yeah, with app->system tools->Configuration editor
[07:28] <nickrud> greg, I really can't help you there, I'm not that brave
[07:28] <TokenBad> no idea kanzen
[07:29] <nickrud> greg, hang on a sec, I'll tell you where, I did that myself
[07:29] <gm78> nickrud : these packages arent from debians repositories, they are in another third party repository
[07:29] <greg> okay cool
[07:29] <nickrud> gm, the not brave thing was for you :)
[07:29] <kanzen> tokenbad: type grep tokenbad /etc/passwd
[07:29] <greg> nickrud, lol, figured it was for me
[07:29] <gm78> nickrud : oh, lol
[07:30] <nickrud> gm78, and double for someone not even debian :)
[07:30] <TokenBad> yeah 1000
[07:30] <greg> how do I use && in bash? i've seen it used a few times, and not really sure what it's used for
[07:31] <araw1> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[07:31] <Koala> Does anyone know why a CD with an .avi movie on it will show up using Unbuntu and I can read the files on it, but it Kubuntu it's like the same cd doesn't exist and nothing can be read on it??!?
[07:31] <greg> araw1, i think kubuntu focuses on a more kde centric platform
[07:31] <TokenBad> kubuntu uses kde
[07:31] <TokenBad> ubuntu uses gnome
[07:31] <greg> BUT you can use kde on ubuntu
[07:31] <kanzen> TokenBad: type mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /home/windows
[07:31] <greg> i have it installed
[07:31] <kanzen> as root
[07:31] <araw1> ah, only in GUI ?
[07:31] <araw1> but all their apps system, configs are the same right ?
[07:32] <greg> araw1, install with synaptic, then select the session on the login screen
[07:32] <greg> session will give you a choice of KDE or GNOME
[07:32] <nickrud> greg, in the left panel, expand apps to /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0, and change, in the right panel, orientation back to top
[07:32] <greg> ok
[07:32] <kanzen> greg: command1 arg1 && command2 arg2
[07:32] <greg> sec
[07:32] <TokenBad> mount: can't find /home/windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:32] <araw1> i just downloaded ubuntu....
[07:32] <araw1> what is best for newbies, ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[07:32] <kanzen> command2 goes if command1 didn't error out
[07:32] <araw1> :)
[07:32] <gm78> does anyone know how to make synaptic ignore gpg checks?
[07:32] <sinope> hi, i have a problem
[07:32] <kanzen> TokenBad: type mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[07:33] <sinope> for some reason, i can't authenticate packages any more
[07:33] <greg> kanzen, ie, cat bla.txt bla && grep bla.txt bla?
[07:33] <sinope> now every time i download a package it warns me that it's unauthenticated
[07:33] <TokenBad> k
[07:33] <TokenBad> no error msg that time
[07:33] <sinope> anyone know why this could be?
[07:33] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  heh you STILL trying to get that working?
[07:33] <kanzen> TokenBad: now do ls -ld /home/windows
[07:33] <sinope> i DID do something to the system
[07:33] <sinope> ... i MOVED it :P
[07:33] <sinope> from chicago to new york
[07:33] <sinope> but how could that change anything......?
[07:33] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 tokenbad tokenbad 65536 1969-12-31 16:00 /home/windows
[07:34] <TokenBad> yeah dr_willis
[07:34] <TokenBad> I am a sad sad person
[07:34] <araw1> is Shipit in Ubuntu still working ?
[07:34] <TokenBad> but think kanzen fixed me
[07:34] <quam> should be arawl
[07:34] <ablyss> brb - smoke
[07:34] <hondje> can anyone post bugs to ubuntu's bugzilla? It's giving me an oddball error
[07:34] <chillywilly> hey, I get md5sum errors on several debs from the hoary archives
[07:34] <kanzen> greg: yes... if I were to type "cat blah.txt && echo success" I would see "success" if "cat blah.txt" worked out for me
[07:34] <chillywilly> MD5Sum mismatch
[07:34] <kanzen> TokenBad: type "mount" and make sure /home/windows shows up
[07:35] <TokenBad> you fixed it kanzen!!!
[07:35] <TokenBad> thanks so much
[07:35] <TokenBad> just copied a file
[07:35] <nickrud> chillywilly, and sinope , us.archive is bad :)
[07:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: no sweat... one question though
[07:35] <quam> chillywilly, change the repositories from us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: is this something that you are going to be mounting and unmounting regularly?
[07:35] <chillywilly> bah
[07:35] <TokenBad> hope not
[07:35] <TokenBad> I want it mounted all the time
[07:35] <quam> north american repositories are fucked up at the moment
[07:35] <hypa7ia> haha i thought so
[07:35] <hypa7ia> couldn't install gftp
[07:36] <greg> nickrud, thanks
[07:36] <greg> that was an obvious answer, sorry for asking a stupid question
[07:36] <greg> lol
[07:36] <sinope> chillywilly: but i use the canadian mirror! :P
[07:36] <nickrud> greg, np, it is ugeley, isn't it
[07:36] <greg> yep
[07:36] <kanzen> TokenBad: then just add uid=1000,gid=1000 to your /etc/fstab
[07:36] <snadge> does latest ubuntu support madwifi driver? :)
[07:36] <hypa7ia> i think ca.archive is messed up too
[07:36] <hypa7ia> can anyone confirm?
[07:36] <nickrud> greg, not a simple answer, really
[07:36] <sinope> chillywilly: what file am i changing ? /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[07:36] <hondje> hypa7ia: it is
[07:36] <chillywilly> done
[07:36] <kanzen> TokenBad: so the options should read rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:36] <chillywilly> works now
[07:36] <chillywilly> thanks
[07:37] <nickrud> yesterday ca and us were in the topic as bad
[07:37] <sinope> ah
[07:37] <hypa7ia> so the temp fix is to just remove the ca. from sources.plist?
[07:37] <sinope> so what do i change.....
[07:37] <hondje> hypa7ia: yes
[07:37] <greg> is there any good alternatives to xcdroast ?
[07:37] <quam> sinope: yeah, sources.list, take the us out of the http://'s
[07:37] <kanzen> greg: k3b
[07:37] <greg> for cdrecord/dvdrecord frontends
[07:37] <TokenBad> ok thanks
[07:37] <quam> so it's just http://archive.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <greg> it's included with Ubuntu?
[07:37] <sinope> i've got archive.ubuntu.com, ca.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <sinope> just dump the ca. ??
[07:37] <sinope> okay :)
[07:37] <quam> yeah
[07:37] <kanzen> greg: it's in the apt repository
[07:37] <nickrud> sinope, exactly
[07:37] <greg> k great
[07:37] <sinope> hmm, who picks the mirrors then?
[07:37] <sinope> server-side?
[07:38] <hypa7ia> wicked, thanks all, and i'll remember to change the mirros back when things get sorted out :-)
[07:38] <kanzen> greg: try apt-cache search k3b
[07:38] <JDahl> greg, gnome has builtin burning capabilities.. you dont need to install anything to write CD/DVDs
[07:38] <greg> kanzen, got it already
[07:38] <greg> :>
[07:38] <greg> it was just sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:38] <chillywilly> nautilus does dvd burning too?
[07:38] <greg> yeah it does, nautilus dvd burning sucks though
[07:38] <sinope> i have to admit i don't really understand what i have here
[07:38] <sinope> in the sources.list
[07:38] <kanzen> speaking of cd burning, is there anything like FreeBSD's burncd command?
[07:39] <greg> cdrecord/dvdrecord
[07:39] <kanzen> burncd is like cdrecord light
[07:39] <sinope> thanks guys
[07:39] <quam> it's just a list of software warehouses, if that makes sense
[07:39] <greg> think so
[07:39] <xMaximex> I just installed ubuntu and i can't install beep-media-player, xine-ui and totem-xine ... they're not in the package list
[07:39] <xMaximex> why ?
[07:39] <JDahl> kanzen, I used to be happy with growisofs
[07:40] <kanzen> syntax for burncd is a little quicker than cdrecord (e.g. burncd -f /dev/cd0 data blah.iso fixate)
[07:40] <kanzen> JDahl: I can live with growisofs :)
[07:40] <bigbill52a> maximex try this in your sources.list
[07:40] <kanzen> didn't even think of that
[07:40] <bigbill52a> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[07:40] <sinope> ah all fixed :)
[07:40] <nickrud> quality software houses :)
[07:40] <caonex_> Setting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.2) ...
[07:40] <caonex_> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device
[07:40] <caonex_> Failed to create initrd image.
[07:40] <caonex_> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure):
[07:40] <caonex_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[07:40] <caonex_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:40] <caonex_>  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[07:40] <bigbill52a> loads in the missing multimedia...files
[07:40] <sinope> i thought... wtf did I drop the computer on the corner containing GPG?
[07:40] <sinope> lol
[07:40] <greg> kanzen, also cdparanoia
[07:41] <quam> maximex: add  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverserse restricted and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted to your sources.list
[07:41] <bigbill52a> including real player 10
[07:41] <caonex_> what is happening with that image?
[07:41] <TokenBad> ok kanzen...added that to fstab
[07:41] <TokenBad> any way for me to test it?
[07:41] <caonex_> i believe that i already have that image installed, but it keeps prompting me
[07:42] <anmar> any Rosetta admins in here ??
[07:42] <xMaximex> bigbill52a: doesn't work
[07:42] <xMaximex> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[07:42] <bigbill52a> did you apt-get update
[07:42] <kanzen> TokenBad: umount /home/windows && mount /home/windows
[07:42] <xMaximex> yes
[07:43] <nickrud> xMaximex, you can ignore that error, if all you are getting is w32codecs
[07:43] <quailster> help. I tried to install kubuntu and it said that the md5sums are incorrect, and I cannot get kubuntu to install properly. I just did a clean install of hoary an hour ago
[07:43] <kanzen> greg: cdparanoia looks pretty cool
[07:43] <greg> okay, on one install i'm running ubuntu with a radeon 9200se with 128megs and the resolution is at 640x480 and i can't modify. any ideas?
[07:43] <greg> =]
[07:43] <nickrud> xMaximex, otherwise, you're probably gonna break your system
[07:43] <bigbill52a> sorry i was on the wrong channel..yipes
[07:43] <adiiidas> hi
[07:44] <adiiidas> is ubuntu really a distro?
[07:44] <pepsi> i dunno, is it?
[07:44] <TokenBad> ok
[07:44] <dr_willis> adiiidas,  hmm Yes. :P
[07:44] <anmar> adiiidas, yup. it is based on Debian
[07:44] <adiiidas> someone from #gentoo told me that it was a fake distro
[07:44] <greg> lol
[07:44] <adiiidas> and told me to go here to chat
[07:45] <anmar> adiiidas, hehe... those Gentoos.. why I yada yada
[07:45] <adiiidas> im relatively new to linux
[07:45] <adiiidas> and im doing some exploring
[07:45] <greg> good suggestion they made then
[07:45] <bigbill52a> because kde crashes my xserver in ubuntu, i had switched to debian...and used that marillat source to complete my multimedia files...sorry about the wrong info
[07:45] <adiiidas> im running mandriva on my box right now, but it doesnt support a lot of stuff
[07:45] <eleusis> there are no more new ubuntu-calendar packages? :(
[07:45] <pepsi> why dont you try installing the fake distro known as ubuntu?
[07:46] <adiiidas> do you guys like it?
[07:46] <anmar> adiiidas, get ubuntu 5.04 and install it on your machine. IF you want you can use the live CD release instead , also version 5.04 and enjoy.
[07:46] <greg> adiiidas, install it and find out
[07:46] <bigbill52a> it is getting late...
[07:46] <adiiidas> is the install pretty easy?
[07:46] <pepsi> march was the last month of ubuntu-calendar :(
[07:46] <anmar> adiiidas, it is great. I have it running on my HP Dv1010CA and it rocks.
[07:46] <xMaximex> doesn't work
[07:46] <nickrud> ah march
[07:47] <adiiidas> ok
[07:47] <xMaximex> still not getting totem-xine, xine-ui and beep media
[07:47] <nickrud> xMaximex, you probably really don't want to have ftp.nermin.net in your sources.ist
[07:47] <adiiidas> you guys really send out the cd's for free?
[07:47] <xMaximex> nickrud: i dont have it
[07:47] <adiiidas> no shipping or charges for the cds themselves?
[07:48] <quailster> can anyone here help me with a kubuntu problem?
[07:48] <nickrud> xMaximex, if you were asked for marillat's gpg key, you do have his sources in your list
[07:48] <pepsi> quailster, dont ask to ask, ask to ask to ask, or else
[07:48] <quailster> I already asked, but I guess no one can answer it then
[07:48] <caonex_> where can i see the default charset in my box for the console and everything
[07:48] <caonex_> ?
[07:48] <greg> so does anyone have any ideas on my 640x480 resolution problem?
[07:49] <greg> with the radeon 9200se card
[07:49] <xMaximex> i dont understand, i never had to enter new line in sources.list before
[07:49] <pepsi> quailster, md5sums error?
[07:49] <pepsi> which repositories are you using?
[07:49] <quailster> yes, in synaptic, it said that I have a bunch of md5sum errors
[07:50] <mpm> xMaximex: did you copy someone else's sources.list?  such as ubuntuguide's?
[07:50] <quailster> I can still run Kubuntu, but everything's completely messed up.. for example, the file browser is non-existent
[07:50] <xMaximex> mpm, nop, just the one that come with a fresh install
[07:50] <pepsi> quailster, change your repositories to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <adiiidas> does anyone here have a winmodem/conextant 56k and running it on ubuntu?
[07:50] <caonex_> greg, hmm i think i may
[07:50] <caonex_> greg, what monitor do you have?
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, is it a dell?
[07:51] <greg> KDS Visual Sensations
[07:51] <greg> nope
[07:51] <greg> 17"
[07:51] <pepsi> quailster, i had problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com earlier today
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, i had the same problem with a dell
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll to the monitor seccion
[07:53] <caonex_> greg, paste what you see
[07:53] <caonex_> greg, i am almost certain that the problem is because of monitor
[07:53] <caonex_> not your video card
[07:53] <quailster> pepsi: ok, it's a bit better. there were 16 md5sum errors, now there's only 1
[07:54] <caonex_> greg, are you aware of your vertical and horizontal frequencies, as well as resolutions of your monitor?
[07:54] <nickrud> caonex_, don't ask people to paste here, point them at #flood or pastebin.com
[07:54] <caonex_> nickrud, sorry i thought 3 lines did not matter ;)
[07:54] <greg> caonex_, no clue
[07:54] <nickrud> caonex_, it'll be 4 or more, probably :)
[07:54] <greg> i'd like to use 1024x768
[07:54] <caonex_> greg, ok look, that means it supports that
[07:55] <pepsi> quailster, try another repository then? i dunno
[07:55] <quailster> pepsi: thanks, konqueror is running, and that's all I need for now
[07:55] <pepsi> ok
[07:55] <caonex_> greg, run this tool xorgcfg
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, then click on the monitor icon.
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, then select the resolution and horizontal and vertical frequencies
[07:56] <greg> caonex_, and how do I find those out?
[07:56] <caonex_> grep, to find out the frequencies you can run xresprobe i think
[07:56] <greg> Ok, not to get off track... but I was wondering if anyone knew of a PCI sound card that supported AM/FM
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, hold on
[07:57] <greg> okay thanks
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, let me check
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, xresprobe
[07:57] <greg> # /usr/sbin/xresprobe
[07:57] <greg> Driver must be specified.
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, if it tells you that driver must be specified
[07:58] <greg> yep
[07:58] <caonex_> just do this: xresprobe --help
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, that should do it
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, do not ask me, but i think it is a bug
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, tell me what happens next?
[07:59] <ukato> can someone help me with file permissions
[07:59] <caonex_> ukato, what exactly?
[07:59] <dr_willis> Permission Granted.
[07:59] <dr_willis> :P
[07:59] <greg> sec
[07:59] <caonex_> ukato, just shoot the question
[07:59] <nickrud> lol
[07:59] <ukato> thanks doctor
[07:59] <ukato> so
[07:59] <caonex_> greg, sec?
[07:59] <ukato> i'm trying to give permission for everyone to read, write, and execute my USB device
[07:59] <ukato> which is a mass storage
[08:00] <greg> root@c-67-190-74-10:~ # /usr/sbin/xresprobe --help
[08:00] <greg> id: Visual Sensa
[08:00] <greg> res: 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
[08:00] <greg> freq: 30-70 50-150
[08:00] <greg> disptype: crt
[08:00] <dr_willis> a usb hard drive?
[08:00] <nickrud> caonex_, I think, like me, he got shite back, cuz we have old monitors (new command, thanks)
[08:00] <dr_willis> or little ram-drive thinggy.?
[08:00] <destiny> hey, is there something special that you need to do to a rw cd before you can write on it again, once it has something on it?
[08:00] <dr_willis> *thingy* how Technicial.
[08:00] <ukato> it's a hard drive
[08:00] <caonex_> nickrud, ??
[08:00] <dr_willis> destiny,  theres some sort of blanking function.
[08:00] <ukato> so the command i used was
[08:01] <dr_willis> ukato,  ok. and is formated for NTFS/Vfat/ Other?
[08:01] <caonex_> greg, there you have your info, write it down for future reference
[08:01] <ukato> yep
[08:01] <nickrud> caonex_, I got blanks on all the lines, like I said, new command :)
[08:01] <ukato> i can read it
[08:01] <ukato> but i can't write to it
[08:01] <destiny> dr_willis go ahead. Was that on the ubuntu guide, I think I saw it there, Ill tell you in a sec.
[08:01] <caonex_> greg, did you run the tool i told you? xorgcfg?
[08:01] <greg> I am now
[08:01] <greg> sec
[08:01] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not why but i am not getting the humor and i am trying here
[08:01] <ukato> i used the command:
[08:01] <dr_willis> SOmeone was in here just earlier asking almost an identical question.. but i wasent payig attention.
[08:01] <hondje> ukato: use rw
[08:02] <ukato> chmod a=rwx /home/user/usb
[08:02] <ukato> is that right
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not know what lines you talking and command ? is it xorgcfg?
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, the old?
[08:02] <nickrud> caonex_, no humor, except that greg's answer came in exactly as I hit return. If it'd come in a second eariler, you wouldn't have seen my line :)
[08:02] <dr_willis> destiny,  i recall its a command line option to cdrecord.. or many cd burning front ends have it in their menus
[08:02] <destiny> yeah, it is there, dr_willis I thought it awas there, I was looking at the wiki, tho.
[08:02] <hondje> ukato: a+wrx
[08:02] <dr_willis> destiny,  the cdrecord howto may have it.
[08:02] <robert> etq
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, you mean because he should have done it in flood?
[08:02] <destiny> dr_willis thanks, Ill go tr that now.
[08:03] <ukato> does the equal sign now work?
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, #flood i mean
[08:03] <robert> reuyjr
[08:03] <nickrud> caonex_, please ignore me, I was following along, and just got out of sync due to lag. my bad, totally
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, sorry dude. Our frame of references are way off ;)
[08:03] <adiiidas> i ordered the installation cds, they really wont charge me correct?
[08:03] <hondje> ukato: oh hey, = does work, my bad
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, no hard feelings just trying to catch up with you
[08:03] <ukato> hondje, ok, cool
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, i am not mad or anything.
[08:04] <ukato> hondje, so i can read stuff on it
[08:04] <ukato> i just can't copy or remove stuff from it
[08:04] <nickrud> caonex_, likewise, we are just totally out of sync, except for good will
[08:04] <hondje> ukato: you need to mount it rw. Are you using fstab to mount it, or just the mount command? If it's the latter, use -w
[08:04] <gm78> Does anyone know how i can install Transcode on Ubuntu. It won't compile, make keeps exiting with an error
[08:04] <ukato> which i think is "write"
[08:04] <ukato> mount commant
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, hehe yeah
[08:04] <ukato> yay
[08:04] <ukato> thank you
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, he left i wonder why?
[08:05] <nickrud> caonex_, my fault, probably, because I distracted you.
[08:05] <gm78> from the looks of yahoo it is impossible to get transcode to run on ubuntu
[08:05] <caonex_> nickrud, nope nobodys, i was waiting for him to answer something and he did not. He just said to wait a second.
[08:05] <Ben_Babcock> Hi . . . I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my other computer, but after I press Enter from the boot screen, it won't respond to my keyboard input anymore. :(
[08:05] <nickrud> caonex_, been there
[08:06] <hondje> gm78: No, runs fine for me
[08:06] <ukato> hondje, can i bother you again for a second
[08:06] <hondje> ukato: sure
[08:06] <gm78> hondje : may i ask how in gods name u managed to get it running?
[08:06] <hondje> gm78: I used the source pkg in us.archive.allthat
[08:06] <gm78> Ben_Babcock : what kind of keyboard do u have?
[08:06] <aiw> i would like to change a compilation option for a debian package, is tere some way to do that?
[08:07] <Ben_Babcock> gm78: It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop.
[08:07] <gm78> hondje : what command compiles a src deb ? so in know which man page to read :P
[08:07] <nanta> olo mae
[08:07] <gm78> BenBabcock : not sure then....i was thinking it might be a dell keyboard
[08:07] <hondje> gm78: apt-get build-dep transcode will build your deps, apt-get source -b transcode builds it
[08:08] <hondje> gm78: the tricky part is getting the libdivxencore0 pkgs from marillat
[08:08] <adiiidas> do any of you guys play divx tv shows in ubuntu?
[08:08] <gm78> hondje : why is that hard?
[08:08] <nanta> ertgertgerwh
[08:08] <adiiidas> or do you need to download codecs?
[08:08] <hondje> gm78: because it's best done with apt-pinning
[08:08] <caonex_> nickrud, used to work with debian?
[08:08] <mae> I wanna buy a laptop for ubuntu, anyone have any brand suggestions?
[08:09] <hondje> gm78: but it's not terribly hard, and if you don't want to pin you can work around it pretty easily
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, gateway 7426GX
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, thought i am not sure how compatible is it
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, but i think it is a good price for everything bundled with it.
[08:10] <gm78> hondje : i would prefer to be able to compile it from a source tarball
[08:10] <gm78> hondje : ill post my output
[08:10] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, for a while
[08:10] <hondje> gm78: you can do that too, but then apt doesn't know you have it installed when you want to, for example, apt-get install dvdrip
[08:10] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> gm78: remember to use "checkinstall" rather than "make install" (it makes debs from your compiling labors, so its easy to remove and find)
[08:11] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: preach the gospel of checkinstall
[08:11] <gm78> nalioth : thx for the tip
[08:11] <nickrud> mae, I'm not getting one soon, but I've been looking at hp, since they claim that certain brands wil 'be ubuntu compatible'
[08:11] <hondje> I hate checkinstall :)
[08:11] <caonex_> mae, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/gateway.html
[08:11] <Whistler> How much partitions and what size,filesystem i need to install ubuntu?
[08:11] <caonex_> nickrud, that is before you switched to ubuntu?
[08:12] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: but for a user who has no other way beside source tarball compilation, it keeps the system easy to maintain (from a pkg point of view)
[08:12] <mae> I'm primarily worried about fully functioning acpi-suspend and standby
[08:12] <Whistler> How much partitions and what size,filesystem i need to install ubuntu?
[08:12] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm not really sure I've switched yet. I've use debian for nearly 4 years, and ubuntu for a few months.
[08:12] <HappyFool> Whistler: a reasonable minimum is probably 5 GB or so; i think the default install is 1.8 GB
[08:12] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Whistler: we see your question
[08:12] <HappyFool> Whistler: the default fs is ext3
[08:13] <gm78> nalioth : i get an error during make tho (im trying again, will post it)
[08:13] <hondje> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: but it encourages people to use it and ends up borking apt :)
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, you can find all laptops there as well. About acpi i think it would work, but not sure, google for it.
[08:13] <Whistler> so i  need 2 partitions? One 5gb other 1gb?
[08:13] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> gm78: have you installed "build-essential" via apt-get?
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, not to be rude or anything but money has kept me from experiencing linux in laptop and that is as far as i can tell you
[08:13] <gm78> nalioth : yes i did
[08:13] <HappyFool> Whistler: yeah, you'll need a swap partition too
[08:13] <gm78> it compiles for a while and then errors out
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, it is also a kernel issue
[08:14] <adiiidas> does ubuntu include linuxtant drivers?
[08:14] <hondje> gm78: /query it to me, I might have saw it
[08:14] <HappyFool> Whistler: i guess ~ 1 GB is about right for swap
[08:14] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: if you teach the gospel of 'use apt to build from ubuntu src repos b4 resorting to d/l a 'wild' tgz, things stay pretty much ordered"
[08:14] <Whistler> so for 5gb i have to use ext3 and for swap?
[08:14] <dabaSlon> Whistler depends on your RAM in the computer, why not just let base install do it for you, the partitioning?
[08:14] <d3bian> whistler a good swap would 2wice what ur ram is
[08:14] <gm78> hondje : how do u /query (i dont use irc much)
[08:14] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Whistler: if you are running ubuntu only, you need a swap partition equal to your amount of ram (if ya got a bunch)
[08:14] <hondje> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: well, tools in a toolkit I guess, can't teach common sense :) I concede
[08:14] <caonex_> nickrud, you dual booting?
[08:15] <Whistler> my ram is 256
[08:15] <nickrud> caonex_, quadruple
[08:15] <d3bian> then u should have 512 or more
[08:15] <hondje> gm78: type /query hondje, it'll open up a new tab in xchat, and post it to me in there
[08:15] <dabaSlon> Whistler then use 256 or 512 of swap.
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, my gosh i wish i could
[08:15] <d3bian> a gig is good
[08:15] <mae> caonex_: yes i know, i'm worried about a laptop with supported suspend :)
[08:15] <nickrud> caonex_, grub makes it easy
[08:15] <caonex_> mae, that is what i thought
[08:15] <Whistler> and what kinda of fs to use for swap?
[08:15] <dabaSlon> or whatever, it is very much your choice. Swap will help you when you have a lot of apps open.
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, oh i know, that is what i have
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, what four os?
[08:15] <d3bian> swap is its own fs whistler
[08:16] <HappyFool> Whistler: it's a swap partition. as dabaslon said, let the installer handle that
[08:16] <d3bian> u dont have to assign one
[08:16] <nickrud> caonex_, win98, debian unstable, hoary, and breezy
[08:16] <caonex_> nickrud, and what are the differences that you distinguish between debian and ubuntu?
[08:16] <Whistler> ok
[08:16] <Whistler> Thx
[08:16] <dabaSlon> omg, my write to CD is actually working. Just to let you guys kno.. I am gonna try sarge now, too.
[08:16] <TokenBad> how install wine on ubuntu?
[08:16] <d3bian> caoenex ubuntu is a system based on debian
[08:16] <caonex_> nickrud, i used debian for quite a while and did not actually know that synaptic existed, until met ubuntu ;) always use console for everything ;)
[08:17] <Red_Tide> I imagine it is the universe and multiverse databases
[08:17] <d3bian> the only diffrent would be the base system
[08:17] <nickrud> caonex_, not a lot, between unstable of jan/feb and hoary, except I do miss resovlconf and hplip
[08:17] <hanseatic> hi everybody
[08:17] <flodnag> hehe i love to use console for everything hehe
[08:17] <caonex_> nickrud, resolvconf to configure /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:17] <d3bian> u can install synaptic in debian as well nickrud
[08:17] <HappyFool> TokenBad: use synaptic. wine is in hoary's universe repository
[08:17] <d3bian> anyways synaptic is just a gui version of apt
[08:17] <dabaSlon> TokenBad you can try #wine, or #cedega cedega is also similar somewhat to wine(to my shallow knowledge of windows emulators...)
[08:17] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, and it seems to be back in breezy
[08:18] <Jormundgand> WINE Is Not an Emulator.
[08:18] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, that is good too.
[08:18] <Red_Tide> or just apt-get install wine from command line
[08:18] <TokenBad> cedega is for games though right?
[08:18] <caonex_> nickrud, see what i tell you, i always do vi /etc/resolv.conf
[08:18] <dabaSlon> TokenBad I guess, I am not really into that, I never had to install any of those.
[08:18] <nickrud> d3bian, yeah, but I never used it in debian, and I have no idea what the ubuntians(ites)(whatever) have done to it
[08:18] <caonex_> nickrud, hplip is the new hp driver for multifunction printersm right?
[08:18] <Whistler> [TokenBad]  games and few progs
[08:18] <hanseatic> i've extracted a tarball and want to create an executable by typing make... however i get the error "make: g++: command not found"
[08:19] <d3bian> all u have to do is go to debian's package site and install the deb file for synaptic
[08:19] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: did you get sorted out?
[08:19] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, and here anyway, it kicks hpoj's ass
[08:19] <HappyFool> hanseatic: install the build-essential package
[08:19] <gm78> hanseatic : u need to install g++
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, i know i was reading
[08:19] <TokenBad> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ,  yeah
[08:19] <d3bian> besides y would u want such a memmory hugger if u can just use the command line apt-get
[08:19] <hanseatic> gm78: g++ 3.3 is installed
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, been doing some research for multifunction printers
[08:19] <dabaSlon> hanseatic sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, no money no problems though hehe
[08:19] <gm78> hanseatic : did u run the configure script before trying to compile?
[08:19] <gm78> hondje : I Sent that to u
[08:20] <nickrud> soon, I figure I'll take hondje's advice and build it for hoary
[08:20] <dabaSlon> I still cant believe it actually worked...
[08:20] <adiiidas> does anyone have the linuxtant driver for 56k modems?
[08:20] <dabaSlon> sorry
[08:21] <hanseatic> gm78: the install howto of the program does not describe anything about a configure script. im trying to install dome for linux
[08:21] <caonex_> nickrud, hehe, look do you get an error with linux-image-2.6.10-5X?
[08:21] <dabaSlon> umm:( my Hoary got broken altogether, I had to reinstall:( Now I am in a base configuration, totally new install. This gives me an opportunity, tho, to put Ubuntu on the bigger hard drive.
[08:21] <TokenBad> ok wine is installed
[08:22] <TokenBad> how use it?
[08:22] <adiiidas> ???
[08:22] <aiw> i need to change the flags used to compile a debian package, i have apt-get the source, can i just untar the diff.gz file, edit it then retar it and do a dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:22] <gm78> hanseatic : is there a configure script in the source code directory
[08:22] <caonex_> nickrud, i have been having that problem due to initrd, but i use grub and it is already configured
[08:22] <Madpilot> evening, all. how do I get Ubuntu to run a .jar file as a program - doubleclicking just opens it in Archive Mngr... (and I do have the JRE installed)
[08:22] <HappyFool> adiiidas: i think that's 'linuxant', not 'linuxtant'. try googling for 'ubuntu linuxant'
[08:22] <nickrud> caonex_, neither in hoary, nor in breezy (I'm not ready yet for .12)
[08:22] <HappyFool> TokenBad: you probably need a windows program to run
[08:22] <dabaSlon> ivoks do you think that if I should put debian and ubuntu ion the same hard drive, and windows on the other, or windows and debian on one and ubuntu on the other?
[08:22] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  perhaps a read of the wine docs. :P
[08:22] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: wine /path/to/win32/executable
[08:22] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  wine /path/to/windows/program/foo.exe
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, is -2.6.10-5-386
[08:23] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  and dont expect too much from wine. :P
[08:23] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: you may want to run tkwinesetup first, tho
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, not .12
[08:23] <sinope> dr_willis: be nice to wine!
[08:23] <sinope> dr_willis: it's nice to me!
[08:23] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> or wahteverthe command is called (havin trouble seein the screen_
[08:23] <dabaSlon> so, you be nice to it then...
[08:23] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm not sure what you're saying
[08:23] <dabaSlon> :p
[08:23] <dabaSlon> ivoks, you listening?
[08:23] <dr_willis> sinope,  i still have NEVER gotten it to run AUtoCad. :P lol i need to try again
[08:23] <hanseatic> gm78: there is no configure.* and only one executable script at all called dxfpov
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, could you see in #flood?
[08:23] <ChinaCatJones> i am having a problem with grub, and I swear I have tried to help myself
[08:24] <adiiidas> you have to buy this linuxant driver?!?!?!?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: AUTOCAD!?
[08:24] <dabaSlon> ok, find just configure in that folder, jsut a file called configure
[08:24] <HappyFool> adiiidas: i think so, yes
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: that's pretty ambitious :P
[08:24] <nickrud> caonex_, now I do
[08:24] <hanseatic> gm78: i am updating g++ right now
[08:24] <adiiidas> noooo!
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> it errors out with 17
[08:24] <ivoks> dabaSlon: ?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: isn't there autocad for linux?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sinope,  like version 12 :P  from 6+ yrs agol
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> however. if I leave an XP install disk in the cdrom grub works as advertised
[08:24] <adiiidas> im so poor!
[08:24] <dabaSlon> ivoks do you think that if I should put debian and ubuntu ion the same hard drive, and windows on the other, or windows and debian on one and
[08:24] <dabaSlon>            ubuntu on the other?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sinope,  thers qcad for linux thts free. :P
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> any ideas?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: hmm, that q makes me worry.... a kde app?
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: also, is it any good?
[08:25] <ivoks> dabaSlon: it doesn't matter...
[08:25] <dabaSlon> ok, thanks.
[08:25] <caonex_> nickrud, i did dpkg --configure -a and still
[08:25] <dr_willis> not kde as far as i can tell. :P go try it - its GPL.
[08:25] <dabaSlon> but make a partition for the data, /home, right?
[08:25] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: eh. that sounds odd
[08:25] <ivoks> dabaSlon: windows has to be on the first partition on disk, don't forget that...
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: be a man and use xfig to do your cad! :D
[08:25] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> dabaSlon: doesnt matter, darth grub will find your missing OS
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: jk of course, good luck with that, i'm off
[08:26] <dr_willis> actually the last cad stuff i wanted todo was draw out an 'orragami' pattern
[08:26] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: how did you install ubuntu? has it worked before?
[08:26] <dabaSlon> ivoks oh really? ok, good to know thanks. Then I also should likely install windows first, right?
[08:26] <ivoks> dabaSlon: that's up to you, there are no ruls...
[08:26] <TokenBad> can see wine not like opening the programs I tried to open
[08:26] <sinope> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: lilo-wan kenobi will kick darth grub's darkside ass
[08:26] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> dabaSlon: windows eats grub if installed afterward
[08:26] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  and what programs are those?
[08:26] <ChinaCatJones> i have installed it before it worked great
[08:26] <ivoks> dabaSlon: yeah, windows first, if you don't want to have so double work later...
[08:27] <TokenBad> bpftp server
[08:27] <TokenBad> terragen
[08:27] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: did this specific install work previously ?
[08:27] <hanseatic> gm78: thank you so far... i've maked again... it seems to do something however it reports some warnings: this file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header...
[08:27] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I was messing with Gentoo and REiserFS on this box, but it has been susequently wiped clean
[08:27] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: ok, so what's installed now? and in what order?
[08:27] <ChinaCatJones> yes, I did a default install of the cd
[08:27] <gm78> hanseatic : wait until it errors out and then query me
[08:27] <HappyFool> i mean, in what order did you install
[08:27] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  useing wine to run a ftp server? thats... errr... perverted...
[08:27] <dr_willis> :P
[08:27] <dabaSlon> ivoks ok, thanks, I appreciate it. I borked my AUbuntu the other day. Just started getting kernel panic at boot, and my grub was broken, I think. I decided just to back up the data, and reinstall(i know, Im new still)...
[08:28] <TokenBad> not for someone that not know how to set it up in ubuntu
[08:28] <TokenBad> heheh
[08:28] <ChinaCatJones> Happy Fool- It have installed XP, and then ubuntu
[08:28] <Madpilot> anyone? running .JAR files as progs rather than in Archive Mngr - how to?
[08:28] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: and ubuntu has not booted successfully ?
[08:29] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  well first off.. why do you even need a ftp server. :P , install one is as simple as 'sudo apt-get install *nameofFTPserver*   , and ssh can basicially do all  that a ftp server can do for most needs. :P
[08:29] <Ben_Babcock> I'm still having trouble with getting my keyboard to respond during the install (it's on a laptop).  The splash-screen is fine, but once the "Choose Your Language" screen loads, the keyboard no longer works.
[08:29] <dabaSlon> Madpilot jar files are as you may know, Java programs in an archive file. You can perhaps run them from command line, through Java.
[08:29] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you played with breezy?
[08:29] <ChinaCatJones> happy fool- For grins I booted to a XP resucue session and tried fixmbr, which has worked in the past for grub issues, but it didn't this time
[08:29] <vladuz976> hey you guys, what is so different in ubuntu? from debian?
[08:29] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: what i'm trying to find out is if you changed anything to make this happen, or if it's been broken from the install
[08:29] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you know, reinstall isn't the solution
[08:29] <dabaSlon> ivoks no, I have no clue what I did.
[08:30] <ivoks> dabaSlon: reinstall is avoiding problems and solutions
[08:30] <ChinaCatJones> happy fool- it has been broken from the install
[08:30] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: doh
[08:30] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  'polish' and 'attention to details'  :P
[08:30] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Madpilot: java blah.jar
[08:30] <ivoks> dabaSlon: what kind of kernel panic you get?
[08:30] <TokenBad> never messed with ssh either
[08:30] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: the fact the grub works when an XP install CD is present is very strange
[08:30] <synd-> vladuz976, plus it dont take 14 CDs to install Ubuntu as compared to debian :p
[08:30] <vladuz976> like what details?
[08:30] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  ssh is one of the MUST learn about tools. :P
[08:30] <dabaSlon> its gone now, tho. I have it on the other computer
[08:31] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  right after BASH :P  heh
[08:31] <dabaSlon> just a sec Ill get you the pastebin
[08:31] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- i've scratched a bald spot on my head from it
[08:31] <TokenBad> I have alot to learn
[08:31] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm kinda impressed with synaptic, after using aptitude for a while,
[08:31] <TokenBad> cause don't know bash either
[08:31] <TokenBad> heheh
[08:32] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: can you briefly describe your setup? number of hard-drives, IDE/SATA, other pertinent details?
[08:32] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  yep.. i'd say spending an hr or 12 reading a few bash tutorials are worth the trouble.
[08:32] <synd-> nickrud, synaptic rocks. but nothings as fun as apt-get  :D
[08:32] <vladuz976> so you guys think i am better off with ubuntu than fedora?
[08:32] <nickrud> I haven't really looked, but I wonder if they use the same database to track 'automatically
[08:32] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not know, but i still use my apt-get
[08:32] <nickrud> installed' packages
[08:32] <synd-> vladuz976, very much : )
[08:32] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  from what i hear about Fedora  - YES>
[08:32] <dr_willis> :P
[08:32] <vladuz976> synd, why?
[08:33] <caonex_> nickrud, there is something with me that like to do a lot manually, debian got me in that
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, ease of use
[08:33] <vladuz976> dr_willis, what do you hear?
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, helpful community
[08:33] <dabaSlon> ivoks http"://pastebin.ca/14010
[08:33] <vladuz976> synd, easier than mandrake?
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, yes
[08:33] <nickrud> caonex_, I do a lot of stuff manually, cuz I'm scripting disabled
[08:33] <synd-> mandriva*
[08:33] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  i see a lot of funky issues in other channels with people useing Fedora. rarely see same  problems here.
[08:33] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I have 2 ide disks, XP on /dev/hda1 and ubuntu on /dev/hdb
[08:33] <flodnag> I have ran both fedora and ubuntu and personally like them both
[08:33] <flodnag> never had a problem with either
[08:34] <flodnag> dont much care for up2date though
[08:34] <vladuz976> synd-, so where on the website does it say what softwares it comes with?  what version of gnome?
[08:34] <ivoks> dabaSlon: this is ubuntu from sarge? :)
[08:34] <synd-> vladuz976, it should be on there somewhere
[08:34] <dr_willis> gnome - 2.10 is what i got. :P
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: or from hoary?
[08:35] <dr_willis> is that the latest? i think it is.
[08:35] <vladuz976> 2.10 is the lastest
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you upgraded sarge/warthy to hoary? :)
[08:35] <dabaSlon> ivoks well, the message was from hoary.
[08:35] <synd-> vladuz976, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/applications/document_view
[08:35] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: hrm. can you put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda', 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb', 'mount' and your /boot/grub/menu.lst file up on a paste-bin? e.g. http://rafb.net/paste/
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: solution is trivial
[08:35] <dabaSlon> I upgraded warty to hoary, and it worked for a while, then I think I may have screwed up menu.lst.
[08:36] <dabaSlon> ivoks ok, go ahead:)
[08:36] <nickrud> kids :)
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: no, this has nothing to do with grub, grub works fine
[08:36] <dabaSlon> so what was it?
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: udev
[08:36] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: does windows XP boot ok without the CD?
[08:36] <dabaSlon> was that?
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: your udev is messed up
[08:36] <ivoks> i saw this on sarge -> hoary instalations too
[08:37] <dabaSlon> what did I do, tho, I wonder?
[08:37] <vladuz976> synd-, thanks
[08:37] <synd-> vladuz976, yup
[08:37] <ivoks> dabaSlon: sec...
[08:37] <dabaSlon> k
[08:37] <dabaSlon> Im gonna reboot, can you wait?
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: wait...
[08:38] <dabaSlon> ok
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: when grub shows up, press e
[08:38] <dabaSlon> I just wanna plug in the other hard disk, to get the files from it, if we need them.
[08:38] <dabaSlon> nono, its done, all gone.
[08:38] <dabaSlon> that install is all gone
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: ?
[08:38] <vladuz976> synd-, is there something like yum in fedora?
[08:39] <ivoks> yum? :)
[08:39] <ivoks> lol