[00:50] <OvenWerk1> zequence: Sorry, I thought I had said for 1504, but it appears I did not. The reason I chose lingot is that it can run without jack. Guitarix has a great tuner which I use all the time, but I am thinking that some of our users just want a tuner without having to set up jack. Maybe I am wrong though. Mostly I wanted to point out that there is no tuner app which to me seems to be a hole. I only thought of it now, because someone was asking in LAU w
[00:55] <OvenWerk1> as far as releases go, I am not sure, It is easier as you say, to test ISOs than upgrades. I do think the ISOs between LTS should be snapshot of progress more than full release... at least for the time we have. The real goal is 1604, but getting bits done for 1410,1504 and 1510 would be nice.
[05:17] <zequence> Damn, seems like my focusrite device will not be supported with alsa by the new kernel. Haven't tested it yet.
[05:18] <zequence> (firewire)
[07:02] <zequence> btw, I told the release team we won't participate in the first Beta
[12:53] <OvenWerk1> zequence: seems reasonable
[18:29] <ObrienDave> zequence, do you still need testing help?
[20:12] <zequence> ObrienDave: Sure
[20:13] <zequence> ObrienDave: If you like, get our latest ISO, and start feeling it out. The desktop stuff is not up to date atm, but you could try different applications
[20:13] <ObrienDave> just got the latest daily, where are your test cases to test against?
[20:13] <zequence> ObrienDave: There are none yet.
[20:13] <zequence> ObrienDave: What do you usually use Ubuntu Studio for?
[20:14] <ObrienDave> k, just to play, will need to setup a VM for it
[20:15] <zequence> We don't need that much help with desktop testing. More so on the different multimedia production workflows
[20:15] <zequence> It helps if you have some experience in at least one of them
[20:15] <zequence> I'll be writing a few test cases before the Final beta
[20:16] <ObrienDave> ok, i'll start to get familiar with some of the packages
[20:16] <zequence> Gotta go. But, I'll post on the mail list when there's something
[20:16] <ObrienDave> k
[20:16] <holstein> i would like to clear some of that out at some point, zequence
[20:16] <holstein> zequence: make sure we dont have a bunch of "official" test cases that make it more complex for, say, the xubuntu team to help test our iso's
[20:16] <holstein> try and keep the audio specific stuff "in house"
[20:17] <holstein> maybe just mirror whatever they have, officially
[20:19] <elfy> holstein: if you mean existing testcases then you just pick and choose what you want and make it a *testsuite*
[20:19] <elfy> so you can have any testcase you want in there
[20:20] <holstein> elfy: i just think we may have a little audio-specific "kruft", that we could take care of in house
[20:20] <ObrienDave> hiya elfy
[20:20] <holstein> nothing to make qa testers go through for the iso release, officially
[20:21] <elfy> holstein: yep
[20:21] <elfy> way I saw it was
[20:22] <elfy> have specific studio testcases that run for the whole cycle that are seperate from the images
[20:22] <elfy> that's how everyone else has been doing it
[20:23] <holstein> elfy: ok.. so, those are not "iso test cases" then? nothing that would be manditory to make the iso's release, for example?
[20:23] <elfy> nope - not at all :)
[20:23]  * holstein +1 on that
[20:23] <holstein> zequence: you like that?
[20:23] <elfy> the xubuntu package stuff is http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases
[20:23] <elfy> it's been running since cycle start and will finish on cycle end
[20:24] <elfy> the image testing is where you know it is - same for studio as xubuntu
[20:26] <elfy> so if you had testcases for audio/video/production/anything you want - you can set up testsuites for each one - then people can just test what they know
[20:26] <holstein> maybe thats what zequence is planning on setting up
[20:26] <elfy> and THAT setting stuff up is what I'm more than happy to help with :)
[20:26] <elfy> I'd not know one end of the majority of your apps from the other :p
[20:27] <holstein> elfy: i was just about to log in and see if/how to edit
[20:27] <elfy> if people wirte them - I can get them merged and synced to the tracker so they are available
[20:28] <elfy> holstein: you in the studio-release team? I think that's what controls access to the tracker admin side
[20:28] <holstein> elfy: i'll have to look into it more closely
[20:28] <zequence> I think that since the plan is to completely mirror the Xubuntu dekstop setup for Utopic, we don't actually need to test the desktop to any other extent than just make sure you can login
[20:29] <zequence> So, no need to double the testing that is already done in Xubuntu
[20:29] <elfy> holstein: yep - you probably know when I'm likely to be about - and I'm always happy to answer stuff
[20:29] <holstein> well, to "mirror" it, since they are different iso's
[20:29] <elfy> zequence: yep agreed
[20:29] <holstein> i dont think we can "piggy-back" on the xubuntu iso tests
[20:29] <elfy> zequence: there are some things we don't test as they get covered elsewhere
[20:29] <zequence> And, so, we only do testing for a specific set of applications that are only found on Ubuntu Studio
[20:30] <elfy> holstein: I think zequence is talking apps not images
[20:30] <zequence> Yeah. The ISO testing itself will remain simple
[20:30] <zequence> That's just about making sure it installs, and that the installation boots more or less
[20:31] <elfy> I did write a studio specific one - that includes your choose audio etc dialogue
[20:31] <elfy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/image/1639_UbuntuStudio%20Install
[20:32] <elfy> not used anywhere yet - but is is available to use
[20:33] <zequence> Ah
[20:37] <elfy> holstein: the hardest thing will be getting the package testcases written
[20:37] <holstein> agreed


[00:10] <ubotu> New bug: #176241 in minicom (main) "minicom cannot detect the width of a CJK character" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176241
[00:36] <ubotu> New bug: #176242 in synaptic (main) "synaptic cannot add repositories in grafic mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176242
[00:47] <ubotu> New bug: #172758 in gimp (main) "gimp-2.4 crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172758
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #176244 in openafs (universe) "openafs-kernel-module: doesn’t build for hardy kernel 2.6.24" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176244
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176045 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "nvidia driver crashing." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176045
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #176249 in grub (main) "Grub ignores device.map when booting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176249
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #176250 in evince (main) "Part of page disappears at certain zoom levels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176250
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #176251 in gnupg2 (main) "Can't Import VeriSign Root CA Certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176251
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176253 in update-manager (main) "'E:Malformed line 85 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse), E:The list of sources could not be read.'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176253
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176255 in ubuntu "Theme manager save dialouge doesnt work properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176255
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176256 in ubuntu "Can't install software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176256
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176264 in ubuntu "Changing workspaces with desktop effects enabled crashed metacity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176264
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176271 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "major throughput difference (between upload and download) when using iwl3945" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176271
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176272 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Freeverb3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176272
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176273 in hal (main) "USB key dmcrypt/LUKS, not properly unmounting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176273
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176274 in ubuntu "Desktop disappears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176274
[04:38] <ubotu> New bug: #176275 in pidgin (main) "unable to send messages with google talk, receive xmpp message error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176275
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #176276 in gnome-mplayer (multiverse) "Please sponsor gnome-mplayer_0.5.3 into Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176276
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176277 in xine-lib (main) "amarok is not installable on hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176277
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176278 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Rivendell (radio broadcast automation)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176278
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #176279 in ubuntu "Gnome upper and lower bars feeze after login to session with compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176279
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176280 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "gnome-system-monitor misidentifies Pentium 4 CPU as Pentium III" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176280
[06:22] <ubotu> New bug: #176286 in adept (main) "Problems with apt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176286
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176299 in openais (main) "INTERFACE_MAX is not proper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176299
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176301 in apparmor (main) "Should provide a flag to disable ptrace()/LD_PRELOAD" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176301
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176303 in checkgmail (universe) "checkgmail does not connect anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176303
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #176311 in ubuntu "ACPI Error [...] AE_NOT_FOUND -> Frequency scaling not working at all on C2D T7500" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176311
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #176313 in gnome-app-install (main) "Software installation from add/remove fails if network was down during ubuntu installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176313
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #176316 in ubuntu "Trash validation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176316
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #176317 in acpi-support (main) "id event not recognized by acpi event rules on HP530" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176317
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176318 in libcairo (main) "X applications crash after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176318
[09:02] <ubotu> New bug: #176319 in zabbix (universe) "Zabbix Icons don't exist after apt-get install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176319
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176320 in ubuntu "netperf can not be built successfully in Hary alpha1 due to sched.h changed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176320
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #176321 in fvwm-crystal (universe) "crystal-fvwm files are encoded in iso-8859" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176321
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176323 in nautilus (main) "offset of screen will not offset the nautilus desktop icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176323
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176324 in php5 (main) "Constant segfaults in php5-cgi 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176324
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176325 in network-manager (main) "Network manager loses settings on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176325
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #176326 in ubuntu "Wont' work with KVM switch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176326
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176327 in f-spot (main) "Panel applets being rendered while viewing slideshow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176327
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176329 in acpi (main) "Thinkpad R50e does not Suspend to Ram if external hub is connected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176329
[10:29] <harrisony> Can someone help me, im looking at an apport bug and the retrace failed but the stacktrace looks good. It says in the HowToTriage guide that I should remove the CoreDump.gz, how do I do that
[10:34] <Kmos> harrisony: check /var/crash directory and upload you crash report
[10:34] <Kmos> *your
[10:34] <Kmos> try to double-click on it
[10:34] <Kmos> to see if apport send it to launchpad
[10:36] <harrisony> Kmos: its regarding an already reported bug (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/175428 if your part of ubuntu-bugcontrol)
[10:38] <Kmos> harrisony: do you want to remove CoreDump.gz from bug report ?
[10:38] <harrisony> Kmos: yes, its not my report but I cant figure out how to remove CoreDump.gz
[10:39] <Kmos> harrisony: in front of Bug Description title you don't have a little pen ?
[10:44] <Kmos> harrisony: forget that.. in the Bug attachments column
[10:44] <Kmos> you have (edit) in front of each file ?
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176331 in gksu (main) "inotify displays when gksu screen is running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176331
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #175428 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175428
[10:50] <harrisony> Kmos: sorry i went to have dinner, thats it, thanks for your help
[10:52] <Kmos> harrisony: np :)
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176332 in amarok (main) "amarok does not work with pulseaudio [hardy]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176332
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #175858 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay() (dup-of: 175428)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175858
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #104722 in ubuntu "Cannot find /usr/bin/esd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104722
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #111417 in ubuntu "System settings app crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111417
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #114626 in ubuntu "Whenever system theme is changed the Kde Panel moves itself to the left side of the screen. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114626
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #114922 in ubuntu "Kernel 2.6.22-2 generic fails to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114922
[11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #124958 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp() (dup-of: 116881)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124958
[11:17] <ubotu> New bug: #127043 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in strverscmp() (dup-of: 116881)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127043
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #176333 in ike (universe) "ike: FTBFS in hppa arch + missing dependancy between ike and ike-qtgui" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176333
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176335 in hal (main) "eam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176335
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #150342 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150342
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #176336 in glade-3 (main) "Property Number of pages of GtkNotebook" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176336
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176337 in gnome-control-center (main) "Configuration of default mixer tracks is ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176337
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176338 in icewm (universe) "Icewm does not give whole desktop for maximized windows after re-login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176338
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176339 in gnome-libs (universe) "Updates have broken GNOME on Ubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176339
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #176340 in ubuntu "[Hardy]Last Debian merge has broken the gstreamer and Amarok packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176340
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #176341 in ubuntu "ambiguity on disk repartitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176341
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #176342 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox no response" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176342
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #176343 in ubuntu "migration introduction on liveCD is wrong about partitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176343
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176346 in ubuntu "_usr_share_system-config-printer_applet.py.1000.crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176346
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176347 in kdebase (main) "KDM local DoS with user images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176347
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176349 in ubuntu "_usr_bin_automatix.py.0.crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176349
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #149393 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with TypeError in __cmp__()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149393
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #175535 in ubuntu "Alternate installer fails to install a bootloader with RAID1 and LVM over RAID5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175535
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176351 in ubuntu "Evolution lacks sync plugin for Blackberry 7730" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176351
[12:59] <Kmos> MOTU Q&A session in 6 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #176344 in powernowd (main) "[gutsy] cpufreq no longer working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176344
[13:06] <Kmos> MOTU Q&A session currently in #ubuntu-classroom
[13:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176356 in gnome-games (main) "package gnome-cards-data 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: prøver å skrive over «/usr/share/gnome-games-common/cards/bonded.svg», som også finnes i pakken gnome-games-data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176356
[13:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176357 in ubuntu "computer acts sluggish after sitting idle for hours, screen refresh very slow, sometimes cannot complete request to do whatever" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176357
[13:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176358 in ubuntu "Fails to boot with init=/bin/sh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176358
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #176360 in ubuntu "[Kubuntu7.10]Adjusting Gamma parameter in system->display settings messes up the xorg.conf. Display defaults to lowest resolution on rebooting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176360
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #176361 in kaffeine (main) "[hardy alpha] kaffeine crashes X with intel video driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176361
[14:06] <ubotu> New bug: #176362 in wxmaxima (universe) "This app should be in Education menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176362
[14:06] <bddebian> Boo
[14:08] <persia> Bim.  Bam.  Bop.
[14:10] <bddebian> :-)
[14:10] <ubotu> New bug: #176363 in ubuntu "i cant find teh games i downloaded from synaptic package manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176363
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #176364 in ubuntu "OpenOffice Impress crash with glibc invalid pointer message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176364
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #176365 in kdebase (main) "Replace the "K" menu logo with the Kubuntu logo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176365
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #176368 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.86 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176368
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #176367 in nautilus (main) "gstreamer extra plugins(ugly set) not gettin installed on gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176367
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #176369 in sbackup (universe) "sbackupd.py crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 155018)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176369
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #176370 in ubuntu "[gutsy kernel disk scheduler] tasks that use disk heavily starve other tasks of disk access" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176370
[15:30] <ubotu> New bug: #72669 in ubuntu "No way of marking duplicate specifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72669
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176371 in gnome-panel (main) "hang in restart and shut down the ps3, also cannot start the screen and graphics" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176371
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #176372 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ktorrent-kde4 from extragear" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176372
[15:41] <greg-g> what the heck, is this LP spam? there is a mp3 attached to bug #72669
[15:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72669 in ubuntu "No way of marking duplicate specifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72669
[15:45] <Hobbsee> greg-g: i'd...say so
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #176374 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "[gutsy] Compiz Fire vs Burn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176374
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176375 in totem (main) "no sound on totem playback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176375
[16:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176379 in monster-masher (universe) "Please sync monster-masher (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176379
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #176377 in xorg-server (main) "Frequent crashes on i915GM (Thinkpad X41)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176377
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #176380 in ubuntu "Black Screen after Login with Asus P5K/Intel E4500/NVidia 8600GTS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176380
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #176382 in ruledispatch (universe) "[Sync request] Sync ruledispatch (0.5a.svn20070626-3) from Debian (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176382
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #176383 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Success by GUI fail by command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176383
[16:42] <ubotu> New bug: #176385 in lirc (main) "CommandIR compiled, but not listed as 'Supported' Driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176385
[16:42] <ubotu> New bug: #176386 in irda-utils (main) "irda-setup (irda-utils) does not detect irda chipset on Dell Latidude D820" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176386
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #176389 in dvgrab (universe) "dvgrab-3.01 for ubuntu gutsy (amd64): getopt() problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176389
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #176391 in rhythmbox (main) "Sony Lyric plugin fails to load: missing python-glade2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176391
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #176392 in ubuntu ""Sans Italic" is noticably thinner than "Sans"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176392
[17:15] <ubotu> New bug: #176395 in kaffeine (main) "Kaffeine blocks sound card" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176395
[17:31] <ubotu> New bug: #176378 in tracker (main) "tracker-preferences crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176378
[17:31] <ubotu> New bug: #176398 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flashplugin-nonfree doesn't affect Firefox's ability to play Flash files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176398
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #176400 in openoffice.org2 "Indent info not saved in .doc format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176400
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #176403 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy's "Tasks" feature should be disabled by default to prevent user confusion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176403
[17:46] <ubotu> New bug: #176404 in ubuntu "Nvidia on board audio not using speakers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176404
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #176407 in update-manager (main) "gonome-orca install(upgradable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176407
[18:54] <ubotu> New bug: #176413 in gnome-games (main) "Can't leave fullscreen in Aisleriot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176413
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #176411 in texlive-bin (main) "[Sync request] Sync texlive-bin (2007.dfsg.1-2) from Debian (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176411
[19:08] <alex-weej> bug #175646
[19:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 175646 in notification-daemon "Notification summaries should not be parsed as markup" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175646
[19:27] <ubotu> New bug: #176416 in courier (universe) "maildrop / courier-maildrop packages for 6.06LTS not compiled for mysql use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176416
[19:47] <Fu86> what package affects bug #176404 ?
[19:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 176404 in ubuntu "Nvidia on board audio not using speakers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176404
[19:48] <Fu86> Is this really related to the nvidia-driver? I thought nvidia is just graphic-stuff
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #176418 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin freezes when right clicking idle user for y!msgr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176418
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176417 in gnome-system-monitor (main) ""System" tab should have Ubuntu branding" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176417
[19:56] <mgunes> Fu86, nvidia's nforce chipsets also do audio
[19:57] <mgunes> it's not related to the nvidia video driver; you should ask the reporter what their specific chipset is
[20:00] <Fu86> mgunes: I search for the chipset ... should i post what i found?
[20:00] <mgunes> what did you find?
[20:00] <Fu86> standard specs from Acer
[20:01] <ubotu> New bug: #176421 in wireshark (universe) "editcap (part of wireshark) fails to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176421
[20:01] <mgunes> I'm not sure I understand how it's relevant
[20:03] <Fu86> what do you mean by specific chipset?
[20:03] <mgunes> AFAIK the nforce chipset has many versions; there's no info on which one the bug reporter has
[20:03] <Fu86> NVIDIA® GeForce? Go 6100 Chipset
[20:04] <mgunes> are you the reporter of the bug?
[20:04] <Fu86> this is build in the Acer Aspire 9300 he mentioned
[20:04] <Fu86> no
[20:04] <Fu86> i just want to help :)
[20:04] <mgunes> it may not be
[20:04] <mgunes> laptop configurations often vary, even within the same model
[20:04] <Fu86> oh
[20:05] <mgunes> it's best to get the info straight from the reporter
[20:05] <Fu86> good to know
[20:05] <Fu86> yes
[20:05] <mgunes> the bug certainly isn't in nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new; those are the X drivers
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #176422 in ubuntu "USB mouse intermittently disconnected and reconnected by software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176422
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #176423 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus corrupts file name with year last modified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176423
[20:06] <Fu86> how do you know (i just want to learn)
[20:06] <mgunes> apt-cache search nvidia-glx
[20:07] <mgunes> the nvidia driver consists of the X and kernel modules. the X module is in nvidia-glx, and the kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules
[20:07] <mgunes> (the proprietary nvidia driver, that is)
[20:07] <Fu86> ah, thanks!
[20:09] <mgunes> I'd say the bug has to do either with linux-restricted-modules, or alsa; looks more like alsa, but I don't know if the nvidia kernel module has anything to do with audio
[20:12] <Fu86> linux-restricted-modules is just a meta-package, right?
[20:13] <mgunes> yes
[20:14] <mgunes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage#head-72518773e1add85bc1bfd3091149987adab22308
[20:14] <Fu86> cool, thanks!
[20:15] <mgunes> for restricted modules, if the user is using gutsy it's linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22
[20:15] <mgunes> you're welcome
[20:22] <Fu86> on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems i read:
[20:23] <Fu86> ...Also, be sure to include the following information to your report. Please be sure to add each file as a separate attachment: uname -a > out ....
[20:23] <Fu86> why is this necessary to attach the information as files?
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #176426 in ubuntu "wireless gamepad has extra axis - not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176426
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176427 in firefox (main) "no tooltips under ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon with compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176427
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #176429 in adept (main) "Adept will not install ia32-libs-gtk/sdl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176429
[20:39] <greg-g> Fu86: So the comments are not extremely long and make the emails to people subscribed to the bug unneededly large
[20:42] <Fu86> oh i see
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #176434 in geany (universe) "Geany tabs when I press space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176434
[21:08] <ubotu> New bug: #176435 in twill (universe) "python-twill missing a dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176435
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #176439 in ubuntu "Desktop freezes opening firefox before wireless is connected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176439
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #176442 in xorg-server (main) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in XkbEnableDisableControls() (dup-of: 157881)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176442
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #125780 in hardinfo (universe) "hardinfo crashed with SIGSEGV in free() (dup-of: 144903)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125780
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #176445 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] kmldonkey-kde4 from extragear" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176445
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176447 in gajim (universe) "gajim crashes at startup (KeyError)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176447
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #176448 in grub (main) "System with 3ware 9650SX raid cant book from PATA drive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176448
[22:47] <greg-g> I hate it when my system can't book
[23:36] <ubotu> New bug: #147498 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV in r300DestroyTexObj() (dup-of: 144634)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147498
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #176453 in kdegames (main) "kreversi by default uses diffuculty 1, but puts high scores under difficulty 7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176453


[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119763 in enigmail (main) "upgrade to feisty breaks decryption with enigmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119763
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119764 in firefox (main) "many sites unbrowseable with firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119764
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119766 in gnomebaker (universe) "Wrong spelling in message Polish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119766
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119767 in xaralx (multiverse) "xaralx is unusable on feisty ppc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119767
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119768 in gnomebaker (universe) "GnomeBaker menu Polish translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119768
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119769 in gthumb (main) "Hot Keys feature: special shell characters not escaped in %f macros" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119769
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119770 in desktop-effects (main) "Wrong label of button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119770
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119771 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Restricted Drivers Manager not working with Mobilty Radeon 9700 - Ubuntu 7.10 Alpha 1 (32 bit)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119771
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119772 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier thinks locally built packages are upgradeable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119772
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119773 in Ubuntu "i915 DRM module not recognizing I945GM for Gutsy Tribe 1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119773
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119774 in Ubuntu "allow the use authenticated smb shares without editing /ect/fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119774
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119775 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119775
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119776 in amarok (main) "amarok playlist error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119776
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119777 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Not work network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119777
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119778 in Ubuntu "error message : missing directory  "/var/run/cups/certs"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119778
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119779 in gtk-gnutella (universe) "gtk-gnutella segfaults every time it is run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119779
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119782 in Ubuntu "Lose Bluetooth At Gnome Start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119782
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119783 in rhythmbox (main) "Usability: Rythmbox bogs the user with zillions of error boxes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119783
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119784 in Ubuntu "Can't increase resolution with ATI Radeon 9600 & Hyundai L90D+ in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119784
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119785 in hal (main) "Feisty CD_RW__CRX830E doesnt read DVDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119785
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119787 in Ubuntu "unmounting usb devices via kde desktop icons problematic (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119787
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119790 in gnome-app-install (main) "Add/Remove Applications should tell you if a program's localized to your language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119790
[09:03] <dholbach> good morning
[09:04] <coNP> guten morgen dholbach :)
[09:04] <dholbach> hey coNP
[09:04] <thekorn> hi dholbach
[09:04] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[09:04] <dholbach> thekorn: how's it going?
[09:05] <thekorn> dholbach: fine, nice weekend, started some work on py-lp-bugs
[09:05] <dholbach> rock and roll
[09:05] <thekorn><EMAIL_ADDRESS>is the branch
[09:06] <dholbach> asac, pitti and keescook are all anxious to hear about it :)
[09:06] <dholbach> if you want me to give it a review, let me know
[09:07] <jovans> is there a kernel update soon for feisty?
[09:07] <thekorn> dholbach: I think the new Buglist module is working well, I added "api_test_Buglist.py" to show the features
[09:07] <dholbach> woah
[09:07] <dholbach> great work
[09:08] <thekorn> that was the easier part, the Bug class might be harder as it is more complex
[09:19] <coNP> What is the proper way to get emacs22 in Ubuntu?
[09:19] <coNP> Should I file a bug report?
[09:21] <persia> coNP: The first step is to file a bug (tag: upgrade).  Then, check if there is an upgrade bug in Debian, and link it.  After that, check if Debian will upload soon, in which case you want to wait.  If Debian will not upload soon, and you want to package it, ask in #ubuntu-motu about updating a package to a new upstream version.
[09:23] <dholbach> hey mvo
[09:23] <mvo> hey dholbach
[09:25] <coNP> thanks persia
[09:25] <coNP> however emacs is a main package
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119794 in ltsp-manager (universe) "missing dependencie on python-ltsp (dup-of: 104391)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119794
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #32324 in dcc (universe) "dcc-client configuration fails / security problem?" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32324
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119795 in Ubuntu "Please include Emacs22 in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119795
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119796 in openbox (universe) "Please include Openbox 3.4.2 in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119796
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119797 in baobab (universe) "Baobab doesn't show the real disk usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119797
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119798 in gtkpod (universe) "gtkpod should work out of the box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119798
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119799 in treeline (universe) "It dies when you right click" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119799
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119800 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier makes X crash and nautilus complain about bonobo-activation-server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119800
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119802 in baobab (universe) "GiBibyte and Gigabyte problem with the french translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119802
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119803 in kdemultimedia (main) "kmix doesn't respect volume levels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119803
[11:06] <coNP> if I provided a bugfix debdiff to an application in main is whom should I subscribe?
[11:08] <coNP> by the way lionel suggested that the patch might go directly to the bzr repo, how could I do this?
[11:08] <Arby> coNP: I would assume the maintainer of the relevant package
[11:08] <Arby> although launchpad may do that anyway I'm not sure
[11:08] <coNP> I guess there are no package maintainers in Ubuntu (or is it only true for Universe)?
[11:08] <lionel> coNP: I think the best way for apport is ask pitti
[11:08] <crimsun> coNP: ubuntu-main-sponsors LP team
[11:09] <coNP> thanks crimsun, then first I ask pitti which way to choose
[11:10] <lionel> coNP: apport is special. It's an Ubuntu tool that we maintain, so all changes have to go first, in the bzr repo
[11:11] <coNP> yep, the other patch I created is for update-manager
[11:11] <coNP> I guess the same holds for that
[11:12] <mvo> coNP: update-manager please directly to me
[11:12] <mvo> coNP: I maintain it in bzr, so I really like to keep the uploaded packages and the bzr repo in sync
[11:12] <coNP> mvo: bug 114207
[11:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114207 in update-manager "Window title is not marked for translation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114207
[11:13] <mvo> coNP: cool, thanks!
[11:13] <coNP> apport to pitti then?
[11:13] <mvo> yes
[11:16] <Arby> coNP must have really long arms :)
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119806 in Ubuntu "some alternatives are missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119806
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119808 in dcc (universe) "Warnings (read/password) during installation of dcc-common" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119808
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119809 in glibc (main) "Race condition during unwind code after thread cancellation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119809
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119810 in evolution (main) "Files with international characters in the filename don't save properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119810
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119812 in rest2web (universe) "syntax error on apt-get install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119812
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119813 in Ubuntu "gnome mouse settings don't affect touchpad configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119813
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119814 in firefox (main) "/usr/share/doc/firefox/MPL missing in gutsy package" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119814
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119815 in Ubuntu "launchpad send bug report reply via email does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119815
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119816 in Ubuntu "Problem: The project uses the Java Platform called "Motorola iDEN SDK for J2ME(TM) Technology", but this platform was not found." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119816
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #116981 in restricted-manager "r-d-m fails if modules have been manually disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116981
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119817 in thunderbird (main) "Does not offer to open Excel spreadsheets with Openoffice.org" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119817
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119818 in Ubuntu "wpa does not work with networkmanager, WEP works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119818
[01:17] <ubotu> New bug: #119819 in sane-backends (main) "scanimage -L crashes with HP ScanJet 4100c" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119819
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118281 in adept (main) "Kernel upgrade - System restart required" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118281
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119821 in dh-make (main) "dh_make does not follow blueprint" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119821
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119822 in aptitude (main) "aptitude should respect standardized units" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119822
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119823 in gnome-print (universe) "Unable to specify custom PPD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119823
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119824 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No harddisks after resume from sleep with ata_piix" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119824
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119825 in Ubuntu "installer created syntactically incorrect fstab given partition names containing spaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119825
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119826 in Ubuntu "Fn key doen not work on compaq presario laptop in Xubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119826
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119827 in alsamixergui (universe) "2.6.20-16 update loses sound capability" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119827
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119828 in linux-meta (main) "Intel Wireless 4965 A/G/N Card Drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119828
[02:54] <pygi> bdmurray, poke
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119829 in java-common (main) "Java crashes running ldap browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119829
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119830 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice 2.2 crushed after closing pps application in Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119830
[02:56] <pygi> hey Hobbsee :)
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hiya!
[02:56] <pygi> how are you today? ^_^
[02:56] <Hobbsee> doing pretty well :)
[02:56] <pygi> glad to hear
[02:56] <Hobbsee> work didnt turn out to be hell, as it was expected to be
[02:56] <Hobbsee> so that was good :)
[02:57] <pygi> :P
[03:00] <calc> Hobbsee: good morning :)
[03:00] <Hobbsee> hey calc, how's it going?  :)
[03:00] <calc> Hobbsee: doing great :)
[03:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119831 in cupsys (main) "Installing custom ppd dosen't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119831
[03:00] <pygi> so not good =)
[03:01] <Hobbsee> erk
[03:01] <Hobbsee> i have 3 over hte next 2 weeks
[03:01] <pygi> meh, one of my exams tomorrow
[03:03] <pygi> bdmurray, when you get time, pls poke
[03:03] <pygi> (or just approve me to ubuntu-qa team)
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119832 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "PERC 5i driver bug in Edgy. Drives go offline after writing 7+ gigabytes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119832
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119833 in gtk-recordmydesktop (universe) "UI problem while encoding video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119833
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119836 in thunderbird (main) "Latest version hungs after downloading new mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119836
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119835 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Wireless kill switch not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119835
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119837 in openoffice.org (main) "Printing booklet with multiple portrait and landscape pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119837
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119838 in language-pack-en-base (main) "language-pack-en-base will not install during dist-upgrade to 7.04 from 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119838
[03:31] <mikkael> i filed this bug here, but its invalid..how do i remove it ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106205
[03:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106205 in linux-source-2.6.20 "system freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[03:32] <Hobbsee> mikkael: click on  linux-source-2.6.20 (ubuntu), change the status to rejected, hit save changes
[03:32] <mikkael> thanks
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119839 in Ubuntu "skype (core dumped)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119839
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119840 in shntool (universe) "shntool: new upstream major release version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119840
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119841 in gnome-panel (main) "Menu bar moved to right side unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119841
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119842 in shntool (universe) "Please sync shntool (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119842
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119843 in kicad (universe) "Cannot open kicad help files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119843
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119845 in python-stdlib-extensions (main) "import OpenGL.Tk segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119845
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119848 in cryptsetup (universe) "no longer creates non-LUKS partitions." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119848
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119849 in util-linux (main) "[gutsy]  mount -o remount no stopped to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119849
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119851 in kdebase (main) "[gutsy]  kdm gives error on anything but "start"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119851
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119856 in gnome-terminal (main) "dpkg was interupted you must mnnually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119856
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119862 in kdevelop3 (universe) "KDevelop crashes randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119862
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119861 in totem (main) "error on playing wmv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119861
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119865 in pidgin (main) "Typo in italian transaltion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119865
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119868 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu: scp crashes with File size limit exceeded " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119868
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119869 in firefox (main) "mojilla firefox crashes very often" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119869
[05:30] <coNP> The Ubuntu Wiki states (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-fb119da008af90df2a8efdc1e7b093af95deb720) that launchpad.net/rosetta is the proper place to manage translations, however, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu seems to be a better starting place. What do you think, should this be changed?
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119872 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "BugList's filters do not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119872
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119873 in gnupg2 (main) "[gutsy]  Rebuild with libcurl4-gnutls" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119873
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119874 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "please support marking a bug as duplicate" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119874
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119875 in k3b (main) "K3B 1.0.0 can't rip any DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119875
[05:32] <persia> coNP: please
[05:32] <coNP> persia: okay I'm going to fix this
[05:33] <persia> coNP: You might consider a link of the form [https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu Rosetta]  (if I remember the syntax correctly).
[05:34] <persia> coNP: That way you can have a nice sentence like: "Ubuntu translations are managed in Rosetta", with Rosetta as a link.
[05:34] <coNP> persia: thanks, nice idea
[05:35] <persia> coNP: Thanks for noticing and fixing it.
[05:35] <coNP> however not entirely good
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119876 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "please support deleting attachments" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119876
[05:35] <coNP> because we want to have the link in the message so that we can copy-paste it as an answer
[05:35] <coNP> therefore an explicit link is needed, launchpad does not recognize that this has been pasted from a wiki page
[05:36] <persia> !translations seems a better solution to that, in my opinion.
[05:36] <coNP> what do you mean by that?
[05:36] <persia> !translations
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about translations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <persia> coNP: It's apparently not implemented, but telling ubotu about translations (with a full URL) so that people don't have to copy & paste from the wiki.
[05:37] <coNP> I guess many people copy-paste stock responses from the wiki
[05:38] <persia> coNP: Sorry.  Wrong context.  You're absolutely correct.
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119877 in evolution-exchange (main) "evolution-exchange doesn't support Exchange 2007 OWA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119877
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119879 in nautilus (main) "Boomarks adds folders but doesnt show them on the left pane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119879
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119881 in dosfstools (main) "Please sync dosfstools (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119881
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119863 in gnome-panel (main) "Just about to fall sleep mouse click and this" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119863
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119619 in pidgin (main) "fail, crashes on logout" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119619
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119883 in Ubuntu "Mouse keys can remain active when enable keyboard accessibility features is disabled in AccessX" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119883
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119885 in rdiff-backup (main) "rdiff-backup crashes while accessing old data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119885
[06:37] <dholbach> thekorn: I reviewed your api changes briefly and dropped you a mail
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119886 in evolution (main) "Evolution loses connection with microsoft exchange server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119886
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119887 in apt-file (universe) "merged package contains spurious files" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119887
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119889 in awffull (universe) "Segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119889
[07:08] <pygi> bdmurray, poke
[07:08] <bdmurray> pygi: hello
[07:08] <pygi> bdmurray, hey ^_^
[07:09] <pygi> bdmurray, mind approving me for membership? ^_^
[07:09] <coNP> why is hug day on -devel and not here?
[07:09] <bdmurray> coNP: We have been trying that to get more developers involved
[07:10] <coNP> thanks bdmurray
[07:10] <bdmurray> We are still testing / evaluating it
[07:10] <pygi> bdmurray, in ubuntu-qa ofcourse =)
[07:11] <bdmurray> pygi: is your launchpad user name also pygi?
[07:11] <pygi> bdmurray, mario-danic
[07:16] <bdmurray> pygi: could you mail the QA application, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA , to me and I'll review today
[07:17] <pygi> bdmurray, meh, I was part of QA already ages ago, it's just that I quit :)
[07:18] <pygi> there's the application bdmurray ^_^
[07:20] <Hobbsee> oh darn, mvo's not here
[07:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, true. what ya need out of him?
[07:21] <bdmurray> pygi: I'd like to see some of your triaging work though.  Could you mail me some bugs you've worked on or put them on some cut & paste site?
[07:21] <pygi> bdmurray, sure, why not :)
[07:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'd like to make a change to dput, and he's the last one who's uploaded it
[07:23] <Hobbsee> er...okay, dput doesnt seem to be done in revu anymore
[07:23] <pygi> bdmurray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/ (all those, including closed ones), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libisofs (closed bug)
[07:23] <pygi> should be enough? :)
[07:23] <pygi> (with a fix ofcourse :))
[07:24] <Hobbsee> sorry, bzr.  i wonder why
[07:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, hm? :)
[07:25] <pygi> Hobbsee, hm, I've got a question
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'm wondering why dput isnt beign maintained in bzr anymore.
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: shoot
[07:25] <pygi> how much would you hate me if I used cdrskin for k3b instead of wodim?
[07:25] <pygi> it might solve *some* of the problems that k3b has with burning
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119890 in file (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119890
[07:26] <Hobbsee> pygi: um, i'm the wrong person to ask.  if it's sane, and fixes bugs and solves problems, and brings me chocolate, then it's a good thing.
[07:26] <pygi> Hobbsee, meh, who am I supposed to ask when there's no real maintainer of k3b?
[07:27] <Hobbsee> pygi: sealne
[07:27] <pygi> well, I can't ask him since he isn't here =)
[07:27] <Hobbsee> and/or tonio
[07:27] <Hobbsee> as they make the most uploads to it
[07:27] <pygi> they are never around
[07:28] <pygi> imho it should solve 90% of the problems related to wodim/cdrecord where it's their fault
[07:28] <Hobbsee> they're at a linux conference -w hat do you expect?
[07:28] <pygi> (and not directly of k3b)
[07:28] <pygi> nothing, nothing :)
[07:28] <Hobbsee> and tonio_ just got reset - he has been here.  his connection's stuffed, atm
[07:29] <pygi> so much bugs
[07:29] <pygi> bdmurray, ^_^
[07:31] <pygi> Hobbsee, poke me pls when tonio_ is around?
[07:31] <bdmurray> pygi: Are you looking to set the importance for brasero bugs?
[07:31] <Hobbsee> pygi: he'll join #kubuntu-devel
[07:31] <Hobbsee> but if i see, and remember, then sure
[07:32] <pygi> bdmurray, one of the reasons, yes
[07:32] <pygi> Hobbsee, thanks
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119891 in totem (main) "choppy video playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119891
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119893 in linux-meta (main) "Kubuntu Feisty, 2.6.20-* Boot Freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119893
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119892 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice base, automatic formulary function is crash at finish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119892
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119895 in Ubuntu "[needs packaging]  affinity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119895
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119897 in totem (main) "Mp3 playback interupted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119897
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119899 in thunderbird (main) "message filtering broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119899
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119900 in busybox (main) "mkswap in installer does not support space greater than 2GB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119900
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119901 in Ubuntu "blank screen for terminal shell when coming back from sleep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119901
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119903 in libgksu (main) "Merge with Debian to v2.0.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119903
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119906 in update-manager (main) "Showing common users a diff is BAD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119906
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119907 in xine-lib (main) "libxine should support ttf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119907
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119908 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot crashes on index files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119908
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119909 in file (main) "Please sync file (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119909
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119904 in Ubuntu "No Bluetooth device found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119904
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119910 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Gnome should remember panel order and state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119910
[09:01] <Arby> evening bughunters :)
[09:01] <Arby> I need a bit of help interpreting backtraces
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> got a link Arby
[09:02] <Arby> one moment
[09:02] <Arby> bug 108286
[09:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108286 in adept "Adept crash after updating" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108286
[09:02] <Arby> and bug 115290
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> looking...
[09:03] <Arby> bug 115290
[09:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115290 in adept "adept_manager crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115290
[09:04] <Arby> are ^^those two duplicates?
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, we can't do anything with the first bug because there is no debugging symbol
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> 3~no
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> err no
[09:05] <Arby> OK
[09:05] <Arby> I don't really understand those, large chunks are the same but not identical
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> we would need them to install ... adept-manager-dbgsym and try to crash it again
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> when / if it does, attach the full crash report (found in /var/cache)
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> get that retraced and looked where they crashed
[09:06] <Arby> hmm, I'm not optimistic on getting a response but I'll try
[09:06] <Arby> adept has quite a few of those
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> you can always ask
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, unfortunetly they crash isn't being caught by something like apport or the KDE crash management system (i forget what is called)
[09:08] <Arby> I'm told they should get passed upstream but in the current state it hardly seems worth it
[09:08] <Arby> they seem more or less useless at present
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> told by whom?
[09:08] <Arby> Riddell
[09:09] <Arby> but they clearly need more work before that's worth doing
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm okay sec...
[09:09] <Arby> I'm just working through the bug list for adept trying to clean up as much as possible
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119911 in totem (main) "Does not play mov in browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119911
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119912 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "wireless doesn't initialize in Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119912
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119913 in bash (main) "bash hangs infinitely; related to replace_history_data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119913
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik, with no debugging symbol found, there is no way to know where / why it crashed and would be useless upstream
[09:12] <Arby> Admiral_Chicago: that's my thinking as well
[09:12] <Arby> hence why I'm asking lots of questions about what to do with them :)
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> unless Riddell knows something I don't...if I were you I would politely disagree with him.
[09:13] <Arby> to be fair I didn't get time to discuss specifics with him
[09:13] <Arby> I was looking for him just now but he's not around
[09:14] <Arby> I guess the best I can do is ask the reporters to install debug symbols and report if it happens again
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i have him tracked down...but to be honest we don't send them upstream without a full crash report.
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a second.
[09:15] <Arby> I'd /like/ to just close them but I don't think I should do that yet :)
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> ask them for debugging symbols and a full crash report.
[09:16] <Arby> right, will do
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> correction: we don't send upstream without a full crash report that has been retraced
[09:17] <nixternal> a lot of boogs need to be looked at by upstream, but the current apport crash logs that I see a lot of, get laughed at...there needs to be much more information otherwise upstream will close them if you don't provide it..and look at it as a 1 time hiccup
[09:17] <nixternal> whether it is right or wrong isn't up to me unfortunately
[09:17] <Arby> OK well at least I've got a course of action now
[09:17] <Arby> I'm not too optimistic of success but I can try
[09:18] <nixternal> the worst thing you can do is close a bug which can be reopened :)
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> Arby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/dholbach look at crasher bugs section
[09:18] <Arby> looking
[09:19] <Arby> on the subject of adept can anyone confirm bug 119089
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089
[09:19] <nixternal> Arby: I can't fetch it, so let me confirm it for you
[09:20] <Arby> OK it's not working here either so that makes it confirmed
[09:20] <Arby> thanks nixternal
[09:21] <nixternal> there you go
[09:23] <Arby> nixternal: any idea what package provides debugging symbols for adept?
[09:24] <Arby> adept-dbg or similar doesn't seem to exist
[09:24] <nixternal> gdb
[09:24] <pygi> bdmurray, poke :)
[09:25] <Arby> nixternal: thanks yet again :)
[09:25] <Arby> the adept bug stomping continues
[09:25] <nixternal> hehe
[09:25] <nixternal> adept is a pita
[09:25] <nixternal> at this current time that is
[09:26] <Arby> yes, yes it is
[09:26] <Arby> I spent most of yesterday afternoon on it
[09:27] <Arby> doesn't feel like I made a dent yet
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, thats how it is with bugs
[09:27] <Arby> awaiting approval to ubuntu-qa so I can wishlist a bunch of stuff
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> but once you get bit my the bug work, it gets to be addictive
[09:27] <Arby> tell me about it
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Arby: hugday is wednesday, you could ask then
[09:28] <Arby> I'm busy wednseday unfortunately
[09:28] <Arby> so I'm getting my efforts in early
[09:29] <Arby> got inspired by nixternal s squashing marathon and set about a package :)
[09:30] <Arby> hey pochu
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119914 in Ubuntu "CPU Frequency scaling not working for Toshiba Satellite M40x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119914
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119915 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "linux-image-2.6.22 causes udevd to eat-up CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119915
[09:30] <Arby> pochu: I also have an iso test going just over there --> :)
[09:31] <pochu> hehe, cool :)
[09:33] <morty> nixternal: last week you unassigned me from a bug that needs more info - on bug day one of the task is to reassign bugs without owners. Can you explain why you did that? Should I have done something different?
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119916 in gstreamer (universe) "gst-plugins-bad: real support not compiled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119916
[09:45] <nixternal> morty: were you planning on fixing that bug like right nwo?
[09:45] <nixternal> what bug was it btw?
[09:45] <nixternal> I unassigned a ton of people this past week
[09:46] <morty> bug 116798
[09:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116798 in kdepim "Kmail does not correctly decrypt base64 message" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116798
[09:46] <nixternal> were you going to fix that?
[09:47] <morty> No. I just thought that assigning yourself while asking for info was standard practice
[09:47] <nixternal> ahh, not that I know of. Assignment means you are the person working on the fix
[09:47] <nixternal> that is the "hey leave this one alone, i am fixing it" type deal :)
[09:47] <morty> Is that what In Progress is for?
[09:47] <nixternal> that is part of it as well, yes
[09:48] <nixternal> if you assign yourself to a bug, then developers who might be able to fix it or can fix it or get it fixed will pass it by because they think someone is already working on it
[09:49] <Arby> nixternal: 'needs info' seems to be a special case according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[09:49] <Arby> triagers are told to assign bugs to themselves while they gather enough info to confirm
[09:50] <Arby> if that's wrong I'd like to know since I have several bugs assigned to me for that reason
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119919 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Information-Window that "Windows-Applications" isn't installed, isn't translated to german" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119919
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119921 in Ubuntu "Hardware sensors not working on Toshiba Satellite M40x (need omnibook module)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119921
[09:51] <nixternal> interesting
[09:51] <nixternal> I wonder why that is...I never assign myself to bugs
[09:51] <jjesse> yes?
[09:51] <nixternal> yes what ;p
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe
[09:52] <jjesse> you found it interesting :)
[09:53] <nixternal> jjesse: do you ever remember assigning a bug to yourself if you are just asking for more info?
[09:53] <jjesse> nixternal: i do that all that time, i assign myself the bug especially if i ask for more info
[09:53] <nixternal> orly
[09:54] <jjesse> then i follow up if that bug doesn't get response
[09:54] <jjesse> if i get response, i try to assign it ot the right contact
[09:54] <nixternal> I always skip those bugs because I feel people are working on them
[09:54] <nixternal> hey, you learn something new everyday..that must have changed though
[09:54] <nixternal> sflaw is the one I learned from last year
[09:55] <Arby> who would know the definitive answer?
[09:55] <Arby> or do we just assume the wiki is right and nixternal is wrong ;)
[09:55] <Arby> (first time for everything)
[09:55] <jjesse> what does the wiki say?
[09:55] <nixternal> Arby: well, I would do what that wiki says...right now it seems there are 4 or more of you against my lonely one ;p
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119922 in postgresql-8.2 (main) "missing documentation of dblink in postgresql-contrib-8.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119922
[09:56] <nixternal> jjesse: wiki says what you aall are saying
[09:56] <stgraber> nixternal: yes, I've read about that "assign to yourself when triaging", but didn't see much people actually doing that, I personally only assign to myself when fixing a bug (mean In progress + assigned to me)
[09:56] <jjesse> i thought thats what i was taught to do
[09:56] <stgraber> nixternal: (and I hate to have hundreds of bug assigned to me :) )
[09:56] <jjesse> i thought it would give the person who created the bug a single point of contact
[09:56] <nixternal> stgraber: ya, same here
[09:56] <Arby> sounds like we might need a bit of clarification on policy here
[09:57] <nixternal> I subscribe to every bug I comment on, so I get an email when there is a change...to many, but I get them :)
[09:57] <jjesse> i get a ton of bug mail as well
[09:57] <Arby> I think we all do
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[09:58] <Arby> I have gmail account just for bug mail :)
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> i have 300 + bug mails now...
[09:58] <stgraber> nixternal: same for me, then when I want to look at my triaging list I just check the bugs I'm subscribed to and if I want to fix some bug, I look at my assigned list
[09:59] <nixternal> yup, I flag messages with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&& [BUG so I know which ones are mine
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i just go to bugs in my LP page, that makes it much easier to keep track.
[09:59] <Arby> me too
[09:59] <nixternal> heh, all bugs are my bugs...I just click on the kubuntu-team lists and go at it
[10:02] <bdmurray> Arby: what was the question needing a definitive answer?
[10:03] <Arby> bdmurray: should triagers assign 'needs info' bugs to themselves?
[10:03] <bdmurray> By the way if anybody wants a _lot_ of bug mail subscribe to the ubuntu-bugs mailing list
[10:03] <Arby> if they intend to gather that info
[10:03] <Arby> bdmurray: don't need that much thanks :)
[10:04] <bdmurray> Arby: Yes, that is what is in the wiki and that is what I would prefer with the hopes that people would close them in 4 weeks if there is no response.
[10:04] <Arby> bdmurray: right, thanks. we had some confusion here
[10:04] <Arby> as suspected in cases of doubt the wiki is right :)
[10:04] <pygi> bdmurray, poke, get awaken :)
[10:05] <Arby> nixternal: there we go then, the definitive answer :)
[10:05] <bdmurray> pygi: I'd like to see you do some triaging for a bit longer
[10:06] <pygi> bdmurray, meh, I'm doing triaging for years o.O
[10:06] <pygi> but whatever you say, doesn't matter
[10:15] <Arby> bdmurray: are you the admin for ubuntu-qa?
[10:21] <bdmurray> Arby: Yes, I am.
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119924 in Ubuntu "Kernel 2.6.20-16.29 fails to login where 2.6.20-16.28 was fine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119924
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119925 in vtk (universe) "Please merge vtk 5.0.2.dfsg from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119925
[10:22] <Arby> bdmurray: you're reponse to pygi suggests I don't have much chance of being approved.
[10:22] <Arby> what else do I need to do?
[10:22] <bdmurray> I've set up an application of sorts on the UbuntuQA wiki page
[10:23] <Arby> ah, I'd already applied though launchpad but I better have a look at that page
[10:26] <bdmurray> Arby: recently?
[10:27] <Arby> yes, yesterday actually but I didn't really expect you to have checked that yet
[10:28] <nixternal> bdmurray: what happened with Simon? I have not seen nor heard from him in a long time...I feel out of the loop :)
[10:29] <Arby> bdmurray: I can do points 1 and 2 of the application, for point 3 I'm currently familiarising myself with adept
[10:29] <nixternal> heh, I got QA because they figured if I didn't mess up bugs.kde.org I wasn't going to mess up Malone ;p
[10:29] <bdmurray> Arby: I just replied to your request with an e-mail.
[10:30] <Arby> bdmurray: ok thanks, looking
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119927 in wxmaxima (universe) "wxmaxima cursor changes and freezes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119927
[10:31] <pygi> nixternal, and I got QA because I closed a lot of bugs in a blink of an eye with a patch or a solution =)
[10:32] <Arby> bdmurray: OK points noted.
[10:32] <pygi> nixternal, he's no more
[10:32] <nixternal> ahh
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119928 in openoffice.org (main) "oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp crashes when closing the presentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119928
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119931 in Ubuntu "Kinfo crash in OpenGL node (tree devices)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119931
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119932 in Ubuntu "firefox problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119932
[11:17] <Arby> bdmurray: replied to e-mail, got my fingers crossed :)
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119933 in accerciser (universe) "Please sync accerciser 0.1.3-1 from Debian unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119933
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119934 in xubuntu-meta (main) "conflicting packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119934
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119935 in software-properties (main) "Duplicate hotkey " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119935


[12:45] <cliebow>  cbx33:ok...all those import pieces are in the  samefolder? or am i proving my ignorance..
[12:45] <cliebow> running out to the car
[12:50] <cliebow> such as studentcontrolpanel.tcm
[12:51] <cliebow> studentcontrolpanel.vbc
[12:51] <cliebow> studentcontrolpanel.tcmplugins.
[12:51] <cliebow> i hace bnone of these
[12:53] <cliebow> maybe i have the wrong  folder????
[01:27] <gvc> hello
[01:32] <gvc> can someone help me load nvidia nforce2 Chipset Driver
[01:34] <gvc> this seems different than what edubuntu has https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:55] <gvc> is there anyone there?
[03:03] <Burgwork> gvc: those refer to nvidia graphics cards, not chipsets
[03:04] <gvc> hmmm
[03:04] <gvc> I know it was all someone in#ubuntu could produce
[03:05] <gvc> I need to get the nic and audio working on this http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCG%20400
[03:05] <Burgwork> it should just work
[03:05] <Burgwork> which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:05] <Burgwork> is this is a thin client?
[03:06] <gvc> no just installed on 10 g
[03:06] <gvc> drive
[03:06] <gvc> 6.10 edubuntu
[03:07] <gvc> I did this lspci | grep -i nvidia at the terminal
[03:08] <Burgwork> so the sound completely doesn't work?
[03:09] <gvc> I show a 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nvidia copr nForce2 ehternet controller
[03:09] <gvc> no ..more concerned with the nic
[03:09] <gvc> sticks typing from two pcs
[03:09] <Burgwork> the nic should just work as well
[03:09] <Burgwork> I have one in my desktop and it has worked since hoary
[03:10] <gvc> did you see the board I have ...the web address for the Biostar
[03:10] <gvc> ?
[03:11] <Burgwork> no
[03:11] <Burgwork> which version of Ubuntu did you isntall?
[03:14] <gvc> edubuntu 6.10
[03:14] <gvc> http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCG%20400
[03:14] <gvc> thats my motherboard
[03:33] <gvc> anyone know how to make a nvidia nic and audio chipset work?
[04:54] <Burgundavia> hey SimonAnibal
[04:54] <Burgundavia> long time, no chat
[04:54] <Burgundavia> how goes your school?
[08:00] <narutosan> LaserJock: Hi
[08:00] <LaserJock> hi narutosan
[08:01] <narutosan> hey did u check my application
[08:01] <jsgotangco> hey!
[08:01] <narutosan> hello
[08:05] <LaserJock> narutosan: what's the name?
[08:06] <narutosan> Pranava Swaroop
[08:06] <jsgotangco> hello LaserJock
[08:06] <narutosan> congrats for becoming a mentor!!
[08:07] <jsgotangco> wow LaserJock you're a mentor now?
[08:08] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: ! long time no see
[08:08] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: well, seems like there were a number of Edubuntu applicants. I didn't want ogra to have to do it all ;-)
[08:09] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: you doing any SoC stuff this year?
[08:10] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: well i am on holiday till tomorrow so I haven't been online
[08:10] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: no, I don
[08:11] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: no I don't I dunno who is handling it nor if mentorship is still open
[08:12] <nixternal> jsgotangco!!
[08:14] <jsgotangco> hi!
[08:15] <jsgotangco> while using Xandros lol
[08:15] <nixternal> hehe
[08:16] <jsgotangco> heh a friend of mine working at Xandros sent me preview of desktop and server for evaluation purposes
[08:16] <jsgotangco> i promised him i would write an article about it in a local tech mag
[08:17] <nixternal> how is it?
[08:17] <jsgotangco> its usable but not revolutionary
[08:18] <jsgotangco> but it failed to install the nv driver and fellback to vesa
[08:18] <nixternal> hrmm
[08:18] <jsgotangco> but I guess that's a good thing to have vesa as fallback
[08:18] <ajmitch> hey jsgotangco
[08:19] <jsgotangco> hi ajmitch!
[08:19] <ajmitch> what's up?
[08:19] <ajmitch> still busy taking over the world?
[08:19] <jsgotangco> heh I'm somewhere back home but at very high altitude with good internet access
[08:19] <ajmitch> fun :)
[08:20] <jsgotangco> just spending a few days off at work, before a longer break that would happen in 2 weeks lol
[08:21] <ajmitch> how nice it'd be to have time off :)
[08:21] <jsgotangco> i'm gonna setup a small desktop good enough for skywatching and move my telescope over there
[08:27] <ajmitch> back later :)
[08:27] <jsgotangco> nixternal: I wonder who is smoking in Xandros though, choosing Keramik for a business desktop rather than plastique
[08:28] <nixternal> eww
[08:28] <nixternal> Keramik should have been removed in like 1996
[08:28] <jsgotangco> exactly
[08:29] <jsgotangco> it has updated apps though, its not like its stuck in the mid-90s for eternity
[08:30] <nixternal> hehe
[08:30] <nixternal> but it is close
[08:35] <jsgotangco> brb
[09:10] <narutosan> Laser_away: hello
[09:10] <narutosan> Laser_away: are you there??
[09:27] <narutosan> hello
[11:40] <rockprincess> hello!
[11:41] <tackat> hi rockprincess
[11:41] <rockprincess> hey tackat ;) I've noticed you're in #kde-edu as well ;)
[11:42] <tackat> yes
[11:43] <rockprincess> how's the feedback for marble so far? I'm hoping to install it on monday :)
[11:45] <tackat> feedback is great :)
[11:46] <tackat> It will be even better for the next release 0.4 which I plan to release mid-April ;)
[11:46] <rockprincess> i've read in the kde-edu mailinglist that they're having been discussion about mixing marble and kgeography into one application! is that still on? i'd like to see that happening, becuase i think both are very good and useful applications!
[11:47] <tackat> It would make pretty much sense as KGeography doesn't really have a map widget
[11:47] <rockprincess> cool :) keep it up :)
[11:48] <tackat> With Marble you can do much more stuff without having to create special content.
[11:48] <tackat> and it takes less diskspace for doing that
[11:50] <tackat> If you take a look at http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble14.png for example, the map is actually a grayscale map on the harddisk which needs less space than a colourful one. That map gets recoloured and bumpmapped on the fly
[11:51] <rockprincess> wow cool!
[11:51] <tackat> So it's pretty efficient
[11:51] <rockprincess> brb....lunch
[02:04] <_ke> hi!
[02:06] <_ke> i just tried to install edubuntu and get LTSP working. now im in a private network with self defined IP-adresses. i set up the dhcp-server and then booted the clients (with PXE and etherboot). in both cases, the clients are able to find the server, and try to load pxelinuz.0, but they hang loading. on the on i get the message: TFTP Open Timeout. what could i do?
[05:49] <gvc> can someone help me load my nvidia nforce2 Chipset Drivers...I did this "lspci | grep -i nvidia" at the terminal...I show a 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nvidia copr nForce2 ehternet controller...the NIC is most important right now
[05:54] <rockprincess> Pete!
[05:55] <cbx33> hey
[05:56] <rockprincess> cbx33: did your GSoC ideas get accepted?
[06:03] <cbx33> not sure
[06:13] <sbalneav> Morning all
[06:14] <rockprincess> morning sbalneav!
[06:15] <sbalneav> Hello rockprincess
[06:18] <juliux> hi sbalneav
[06:28] <sbalneav> Blowing away my laptop now, came with Ubuntu Edgy, now installing Edubuntu Feisty!
[06:28] <sbalneav> Wheeeee
[06:28] <sbalneav> 90%
[06:29] <rockprincess> heheh ;)
[07:25] <LaserJock> narutosan: I am now ;-)
[07:25] <narutosan> ok
[07:26] <narutosan> LaserJock: did you check my application??
[07:27] <narutosan> LaserJock: Can you please get me a remark on my app.
[07:30] <narutosan> LaserJock: ??
[07:31] <LaserJock> looking at it now
[07:31] <narutosan> oh thanx!!
[07:37] <dubbydubby> hey anyone im having problems, when i do lshw it returns this for my network device *-network UNCLAIMED
[07:37] <LaserJock> narutosan: looks pretty good
[07:38] <narutosan> LaserJock: may I know how many apps so far for the same topic?
[07:53] <narutosan> LaserJock: ??
[07:56] <LaserJock> narutosan: there are quite a few
[09:44] <cello_rasp> hi. which controls theme (gtk theme) does edubuntu use? Is it Human (Orange) or does it use a red version of the human theme?
[09:47] <LaserJock> I'm not sure if it's completely different or not
[09:48] <LaserJock> but it's based on the Edubuntu colors
[09:51] <cello_rasp> what color is are the highlight on the scrollbar?
[09:52] <cello_rasp> (I'm assuming you are using edubuntu right now)
[09:54] <LaserJock> I'm not actually
[09:55] <LaserJock> in fact you're luck to catch me at home when I'm in Ubuntu
[09:55] <LaserJock> *lucky
[09:55] <cello_rasp> heh :)
[09:55] <LaserJock> I spend a majority of my time in OS X ssh'd to Ubuntu
[09:55] <LaserJock> so I'm not great with *buntu GUI stuff
[09:57] <highvoltage> sies.
[10:11] <jelkner> hi all, we are trying to run ltsp-build-client and our network connection keeps timing out (we always have this problem inside the school network).
[10:12] <jelkner> where does ltsp-build-client get its data from?
[10:12] <jelkner> can we setup a mirror and point it to the mirror?
[10:12] <highvoltage> jelkner: ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///path-to-mirror
[10:13] <highvoltage> (or replace file:/// with http://archive.ubuntu.yourmirror.com
[10:15] <jelkner> thanks!
[10:16] <sbalneav> Hey all
[10:16] <sbalneav> Anyone have any experience with the intel wireless ipw3945 driver?
[10:24] <stgraber> sbalneav: That's what I have in my laptop but it "works" that's all :)
[10:25] <stgraber> never did something else than using it with NetworkManager for now
[10:25] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I use it on my laptop
[10:35] <sbalneav> Huh!
[10:36] <sbalneav> Fresh install of Edubuntu
[10:36] <sbalneav> linux-restricted-modules-generic wasn't installed
[10:36] <sbalneav> THATS either a bug, or a policy change
[10:37] <LaserJock> bug I'd think
[10:40] <jelkner> we have a feisty edubuntu server running
[10:40] <jelkner> clients get the graphical log-in
[10:40] <jelkner> but log-in fails
[10:41] <jelkner> you can log-in the chroot via tty1
[10:41] <sbalneav> jelkner: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[10:43] <jelkner> sbalneav: thanks!
[10:47] <highvoltage> seems like having to run ltsp-update-sshkeys is still needed
[10:47] <highvoltage> had to do it today with my home ltsp server too :-/
[10:48] <jelkner> everything works!  thanks