[09:14] <mwhudson> tsimonq2: debian/patches?
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager-openconnect (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.2.4-1 => 1.2.4-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpdb-libs [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpdb-libs [s390x] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
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[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpdb-libs [armhf] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpdb-libs [arm64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpdb-libs [i386] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:43] <tsimonq2> mwhudson: I need a config variable set in a native package via /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/panel.conf
[16:43] <tsimonq2> It should be on the live system only.
[17:11] <tsimonq2> wxl: Heya.
[17:11] <wxl> o/
[17:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: You've read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration or at least skimmed it?
[17:12] <wxl> yep
[17:12] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[17:13] <tsimonq2> So, with transitions as big as ours, there's gotta be something failing an autopkgtest.
[17:13] <tsimonq2> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html has a full list, and you can access specific packages via http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtbase-opensource-src
[17:13] <wxl> well there's only one of 5 possibilites so you've got a 20% chance of being right :)
[17:14] <tsimonq2> hahahaha
[17:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: We want it to say "Valid candidate" at the bottom.
[17:14] <tsimonq2> From there, that part of the testing has passed, and then it goes to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[17:15] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ignore the ignored failures i assume?
[17:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: Right.
[17:15] <tsimonq2> All of the "hints", or known failures, are available here: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/files
[17:15] <tsimonq2> We
[17:15] <tsimonq2> grr
[17:16] <tsimonq2> We're trying to move it over to team files, such as "ubuntu-release" instead of e.g. "vorlon"
[17:16] <wxl> looks like there's a handful of always failed. shouldn't be too difficult
[17:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: So, if you know an autopkgtest is bad, you can either make an MP there or ask someone here.
[17:17] <tsimonq2> But right.
[17:17] <tsimonq2> *Usually* it's annotated with a comment.
[17:18] <tsimonq2> wxl: What isn't documented though, is there's an update_output.txt that's *before* all the tests are passed.
[17:18] <tsimonq2> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output_notest.txt
[17:18] <tsimonq2> So what I typically do, for e.g. Qt to migrate, is search for the first entry in the file for qtbase-opensource-src where it's grouped in with a bunch of other packages.
[17:19] <tsimonq2> From then on, it tries to separate it into different migratable chunks.
[17:20] <wxl> like the one that begins with qtserialport-opensource-src and ends with khangman?
[17:20] <tsimonq2> Right.
[17:20] <tsimonq2> So, with these, you can sometimes diff the listing in update_output.txt with the listing in update_output_notest.txt.
[17:21] <tsimonq2> Because the latter is with tests *not* considered.
[17:22] <tsimonq2> Either way, if you're in update_output.txt and the "got" stanza does not contain any other -proposed packages in it, you might want to try looking at Ben: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[17:22] <tsimonq2> Ben is a graphical representation of some of these transitions; I would encourage you to look into it.
[17:23] <tsimonq2> The trick is to try to make A) Ben happy for a transition. B) All autopkgtests passable. C) Make everything installable.
[17:23] <wxl> ok so let's work on an example. walk me through it step by step.
[17:24] <tsimonq2> So, that big one you mentioned before starting with qtserialport and ending with khangman.
[17:24] <wxl> ok
[17:24] <tsimonq2> The only reason why it can't all migrate now is because of these lines:
[17:24] <tsimonq2>     got: 32+0: a-3:a-2:a-4:i-2:p-19:s-2
[17:24] <tsimonq2>     * ppc64el: emacs25, emacs25-lucid, libsbml5-octave, octave-lhapdf, octave-ocs, octave-odepkg, octave-plplot, paraview, paraview-dev, paraview-python, performous, rbdoom3bfg, ring, ring-daemon, tupi, vcmi, vdr-plugin-softhddevice
[17:25] <tsimonq2> So, when these packages are installed, upgrading that whole stack shown in "trying" breaks all of these *somehow*.
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: cpdb-backend-file (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[17:25] <wxl> and it's only affecting ppc64el?
[17:26] <tsimonq2> It cycles through all of the architectures in every run.
[17:26] <tsimonq2> So this run it'll be ppc64el, next run should be s390x, etc.
[17:26] <wxl> oic
[17:27] <tsimonq2> In Ubuntu, unlike Debian, we don't split arch:all and amd64, so amd64 could(!) yield more results.
[17:27] <wxl> we need a vim plugin with custom folding
[17:27] <tsimonq2> Oh? :)
[17:27] <tsimonq2> I don't catch your drife.
[17:27] <tsimonq2> *drift
[17:27] <wxl> so you could fold away the lines that are irrelevant and focus only on the important bits
[17:27] <wxl> anyways carry on
[17:28] <tsimonq2> So, that's what is uninstallable. Often times within that you can find a dep tree.
[17:29] <tsimonq2> I personally scan Ben next to see if there's something that corresponds to any of these packages.
[17:29] <tsimonq2> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[17:30] <tsimonq2> I see Octave.
[17:31] <wxl> i'm with you
[17:31] <tsimonq2> Indeed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs25/25.2+1-6build2
[17:31] <tsimonq2> So the goal with all of these is to find source packages and what's wrong with them.
[17:31] <tsimonq2> That's a bit of a unique error, so I'll look into it.
[17:32] <tsimonq2> INFO Upload was rejected:
[17:32] <tsimonq2> INFO 	emacs25-lucid_25.2+1-6build2_amd64.deb: Version older than that in the archive. 25.2+1-6build2 <= 1:25.2+1-10
[17:32] <tsimonq2> INFO 	emacs25-nox_25.2+1-6build2_amd64.deb: Version older than that in the archive. 25.2+1-6build2 <= 1:25.2+1-10
[17:32] <tsimonq2> INFO 	emacs25_25.2+1-6build2_amd64.deb: Version older than that in the archive. 25.2+1-6build2 <= 1:25.2+1-10
[17:32] <wxl> what about octave?
[17:32] <tsimonq2> INFO Committing the transaction and any mails associated with this upload.
[17:32] <tsimonq2> Fun.
[17:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: Well, Ben needs to be looked at for that it seems.
[17:33] <acheronuk> emacs took over emacs25 package + friends
[17:33] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Got it, so that probably needs AA processing if I'm not wrong?
[17:33] <acheronuk> [23:44] <slangasek> emacs needed a binary promotion (because emacs stole emacs25 source)
[17:34] <tsimonq2> Bingo.
[17:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: So, that's part of what's blocking it; an Archive Admin such as slangasek (there's a few more victims^Mpeople you can poke) needs to press buttons.
[17:34] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, I'll look at Octave.
[17:35] <wxl> let's find an "easy" one for me and i'll leave the hard ones for you
[17:35] <acheronuk> octave is not on the last update_output for i386
[17:35] <acheronuk> * i386: emacs25, emacs25-lucid, paraview, paraview-dev, paraview-python, performous, pfsglview, pfstools, pfsview, rbdoom3bfg, ring, ring-daemon, tupi, vcmi, vdr-plugin-softhddevice
[17:36] <tsimonq2> Hmm.
[17:36] <tsimonq2> Oh, I was looking at notest, hah.
[17:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: So, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#octave is an example of a package with failing tests.
[17:37] <tsimonq2> Since Debian started testing for those, you can usually(!) find a corresponding Debian bug.
[17:38] <tsimonq2> Looks like octave-ocs is not in Testing, so it might need a demotion: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/octave-ocs
[17:38] <tsimonq2> (Demotion to -proposed.)
[17:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: This demonstrates the general point that this is a rabbit hole. :P
[17:39] <wxl> yes
[17:40] <wxl> and at this point i'm starting to wonder how i'm going to be helpful because it's going to take half the time to explain to me what it is i'm even looking at
[17:40] <tsimonq2> Once you learn what you're looking at, it's easy enough to understand what you're dealing with.
[17:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: If you want, I can continue to hunt the transition on my own, but it'd be cool if you could continue to stick around for the ride. :)
[17:41] <acheronuk> don't think we need octave for Qt though. normal output where it's not grouped due to the failing tests would migrate Qt without it
[17:41] <wxl> i'm here to help
[17:42] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Right.
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Fixing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ring/20180712.2.f3b87a6~ds1-1build1 is needed it seems.
[17:43]  * tsimonq2 hunts for upstream patches...
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: cpdb-backend-file (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[17:53] <wxl> so going back to octave.. it's passing in excuses, so i guess that's what you mean about the tests before the tests?
[17:53] <tsimonq2> Yeah, kinda.
[17:53] <tsimonq2> What our real concern right now is is ring.
[17:54] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ring/20180712.2.f3b87a6~ds1-1build1
[17:54] <tsimonq2> The build passes in Debian but not in Ubuntu. I'm trying a fresh build locally.
[17:54] <tsimonq2> If it FTBFS in a fresh Sid chroot, I'll file a bug there and it'll be their problem. ;)
[17:57] <acheronuk> that may be so, but it's still OUR problem as it's blocking OUR transition
[17:58] <tsimonq2> You're not *wrong*. :P
[17:59] <acheronuk> I just mean more may be required from us than just 'passing the ball'
[18:00] <acheronuk> if we want our transition through this year!
[18:13] <tsimonq2> Oh, that's probably why.
[18:13] <tsimonq2> It's FTBFS with the new boost!
[18:13] <tsimonq2> grr
[18:15]  * tsimonq2 wonders why doko switched our default Boost to 1.67 while Debian's is still at 1.62...
[18:18] <tsimonq2> For these FTBFS packages, I'm going to switch the build dep to explicitly pull in 1.62 (even though it's in Universe, it's still default in Debian) and file bugs there that it FTBFS with 1.67... eventually once those are solved we should be able to sync.
[18:18] <tsimonq2> Because some of these don't even have patches upstream yet.
[18:22] <ginggs> tsimonq2: boost 1.65 was default for bionic, and debian didn't have that either
[18:22] <tsimonq2> ginggs: Ah, got it.
[18:23] <tsimonq2> ginggs: Where's the source package for 1.65? I can't seem to find it under the normal naming scheme.
[18:23] <ginggs> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost1.65.1
[18:23] <tsimonq2> ack
[18:24] <ginggs> apparently ftp-master weren't happy with debian/copyright in boost
[18:25] <tsimonq2> With which one?
[18:25] <ginggs> all of them
[18:27] <tsimonq2> Oh. :P
[18:30] <tsimonq2> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=906690
[18:40] <tsimonq2> doko, xnox: Since Boost 1.67 was something you both were involved in, could you please solve the ring FTBFS? I don't know enough about Boost.
[18:54] <tsimonq2> Trying a new version of yaml-cpp from Debian's Git repo.
[18:57] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: missing include?
[18:57] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: New yaml-cpp drops depends on boost 😆
[18:58] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: So if this works, I call it a workaround. :P
[18:58] <tsimonq2> It doesn't help that the maintainer is MIA though.
[18:58] <wxl> can we easily get a list of all the ones that require boost?
[18:59] <tsimonq2> What do you mean?
[19:02] <wxl> well we have could generate a list of potentially problematic packages, then iterate through them checking to see if they have depends on boost
[19:04] <tsimonq2> wxl: Right, that's just grepping excuses :)
[19:04] <tsimonq2> Aww, yaml-cpp is FTBFS :(
[19:51] <tsimonq2> There, I'm thinking that yaml-cpp upload will fix it.
[19:51] <tsimonq2> We shall see......
[19:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Could you please demote vdr-plugin-softhddevice to cosmic-proposed? There's been an open bug in Debian since January about fixing support with ffmpeg, which hasn't been solved. Debian bug 888331.
[20:13] <tsimonq2> NICE, yaml-cpp does fix it.
[20:14] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, it turned out to be relatively simple to do, and fixing a build failure gave me 12 hours of "good work" in fixing what was left to do, instead of seeing aways the same useless stuff in update_output... so not entirely a waste of time
[20:14] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[20:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: A good challenge is to find yaml-cpp rdeps with `reverse-depends [-b]` and give me a list to retry :)
[20:25] <LocutusOfBorg> paraview... anybody has hints?
[20:25] <LocutusOfBorg> I rebuilt the last two xorg packages
[20:25] <tsimonq2> I was looking at that and couldn't quite figure it out.
[20:25] <LocutusOfBorg> we probably missed them because they are arch:arm* only
[20:25] <LocutusOfBorg> I even tried a build with no-parallel...
[20:25] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: Tag team you in? :) I will be mostly AFK for the next 6 hours.
[20:25] <LocutusOfBorg> nothing changes
[20:26] <LocutusOfBorg> tsimonq2, paraview FTBFS in debian too
[20:26] <LocutusOfBorg> so you can open an RC bug there
[20:26] <tsimonq2> ack
[20:26] <tsimonq2> I can do that later unless you want to now.
[20:26] <LocutusOfBorg> I can give you a link to build log
[20:26] <tsimonq2> Please do, pastebin?
[20:27] <LocutusOfBorg> http://debomatic-amd64.debian.net/distribution#unstable/paraview/5.4.1+dfsg4-3/buildlog
[20:27] <LocutusOfBorg> there
[20:27] <LocutusOfBorg> various MB of logs...
[20:47] <wxl> @teward: doesn't look like it. you're it.
[20:48] <teward> heh, was merely curious, since nginx is now tracking Mainline at least for 18.10 and 19.04
[20:48] <teward> ... and I may have implemented something to stop the "Can't start nginx, something's already on port 80" "not-a-bug" bug reports that keep getting filed
[20:49] <teward> not going to start the release notes yet though :p
[20:49] <wxl> an apport-hook that looks for "80" in the report and rejects it? :)
[20:51] <teward> wxl: preemots even that
[20:51] <teward> preempts*
[20:51] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1782226
[20:51] <wxl> oh my
[20:53] <teward> mhm
[20:53] <teward> wxl: preempts those issues by addressing the problem in the postinst
[20:54] <teward> if it's a new install but something else is bound to port 80 it doesn't attempt to start nginx at all, but spits a note out into the logs
[20:54] <teward> Not my favorite approach, but...
[20:54] <teward> i'm tired of 20+ "I just installed nginx and it won't start idk why" bugs which are really "Something else is bound to Port 80, go find it and shut it off" Invalid NotABugs.
[20:55] <teward> to be honest i think everyone is :P
[21:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: budgie-wallpapers [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [18.10] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)
[22:05] <mwhudson> tsimonq2: oh, live system only hacks might be more appropriate in livecd-rootfs i guess
[23:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubiquity (bionic-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS> => <IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[23:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (bionic-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu2.1 => 10.1ubuntu2.2] (core)


[00:58] <KingParrot> dummy package vs metapackage?
[00:58] <KingParrot> Hello room
[01:20] <mason> Hrm, that's not how to use IRC.
[02:11] <KingParrot> Hello room
[02:11] <KingParrot> I am thining about attempting to install a MATE desktop on  server from a deb file.
[02:12] <mason> KingParrot: From earlier, a dummy package is usually a transitional package name, as I remember, where a metapackage is a collection of packages.
[02:13] <mason> KingParrot: This might be more appropriate to #ubuntu, but you probably want "apt install mate-desktop-environment"
[02:13] <KingParrot> Ty
[02:13] <KingParrot> I allready found the important info
[02:14] <KingParrot> My notes this is a "dummy package" not a "metapackage" the main diffrance is a dummy package can be safely removed.
[02:15] <mason> Sounds reasonable.
[02:15] <KingParrot> I am giving some thought to attempting to install a Desktop from deb files
[02:16] <mason> It's better to use a proper repository, so you get timely updates.
[02:16] <KingParrot> I currently have mate-desktop-environment-extra -   gir1.2-mate-desktop -  ubuntu-mate-desktop
[02:17] <KingParrot> I think when it comes to ubuntu-mate-desktop and mate-desktop-environment-extra I haft to pick one or the other.  but I am not sure
[02:18] <KingParrot> my server is not set up to go online.
[02:18] <mason> I'd be surprised if they conflicted. You should be able to pick a session type if you're using lightdm or gdm or similar.
[02:18] <KingParrot> I want to build everything on my server offline.
[02:19] <KingParrot> I am not very fumilur iwth lightdm or gdm
[02:19] <KingParrot> I have herd of lightdm
[02:20] <KingParrot> I have my ways to find out info fast
[02:20] <KingParrot> LightDM theme and default configuration for Ubuntu MATE
[02:21] <KingParrot> but I suspsect that LightDM does much more then theme aspects.
[02:22] <KingParrot> Is LightDM a GUI in and of its self?
[02:22] <mason> No, it's a display manager, like XDM
[02:23] <KingParrot> I am not fumilure with XDM
[02:23] <mason> Graphical login prompt
[02:23] <KingParrot> I did notice when looking at the list of MATE deb files many where API.
[02:26] <KingParrot> I did not download or file any of the MATE API because think the copy of ubuntu-mate-desktop that I have is a full desktop environment is what it says.
[02:27] <KingParrot> but I do suspect that I may need some of the MATE API in the list just not sure witch ones would sufice.
[02:34] <mason> KingParrot: A bulletproof way to identify the full list you need isn't coming to mind, since I don't know what you've got installed to start.
[02:36] <KingParrot> I have ubuntu 16.04 but I don't recall what other things I installed in it's instalation,
[02:36] <mason> Exactly.
[02:37] <KingParrot> I am thinking about installing rxvt-unicode on it.
[02:37] <mason> Good choice.
[02:37] <KingParrot> I did install Opera as a od exspirmint.
[02:38] <KingParrot> on some Distros Opera did not requir any depandancies.
[02:38] <KingParrot> but in my test on the server install it required about 6
[02:39] <KingParrot> To my understanding is because I am mostly just a server I may need to install comands libray.
[02:40] <KingParrot> So far all the commands I have used I think worked.
[02:40] <KingParrot> I think I installed MYSQL on it.
[02:41] <KingParrot> becuase in my notes I do have a pass word.
[02:41] <KingParrot> and user name for MYSQL
[02:44] <mason> Hm, been a while since I set up MySQL from scratch. Maybe there's a database user account, like 'postgres' for PostgreSQL.
[02:49] <KingParrot> I have not attempted to access it.
[02:50] <mason> There'll be docs available from the package(s).
[02:53] <KingParrot> I think the MYSQL dose not have a seprite user account.
[02:53] <KingParrot> I occured to me when logged into the server and when I did cat /etc/passwd it had 3 accounts
[02:54] <KingParrot> 2 of the accounts I made after the server instalation.
[02:54] <KingParrot> so the MYSQL password must be for the main account.
[02:55] <mason> KingParrot: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-16-04
[02:56] <KingParrot> LAMP was a seprit optoin and I normaly do install it because it seems to be a main one to use.
[02:58] <KingParrot> This is a good page to look or mason it sugjest to make a none root user and a firewall.
[02:59] <KingParrot> I alwise make none root user accounts some times 2 or 3 of them.
[03:00] <KingParrot> from my espirments it seems that user accounts in certain distros are not as sovrin as they could be.
[03:00] <mason> How so?
[03:00] <KingParrot> It would be nice that if install programs that it would only make changes to that exsact user accout with out affecting other user accounts thus the main system.
[03:02] <KingParrot> example if I install Maxthon in one user profile then in the onther user profile maxthon would not be installed.
[03:03] <mason> I'm not familiar with Maxthon, but that sounds like a sort of sovereignty if per-user installs are limited to that user.
[03:03] <KingParrot> if the user accounts were more sovrine like that it would be awsume
[03:03] <KingParrot> Maxthon is a web browser
[03:03] <mason> By default in Ubuntu you're not installing things for individual users/accounts.
[03:04] <KingParrot> Maxthon is a odd ball browser it use 2 engince on like most broswers.
[03:04] <KingParrot> because Maxthon uses 2 engines it runes more processes.
[03:04] <KingParrot> it is like running 2 web browsers at the same time.
[03:05] <KingParrot> one of the core engines is trident out of Microsofts IE explorer and the other I think is webkit but I don't recall for sure.
[03:06] <KingParrot> mason is  linux PC your main online pc?
[03:06] <mason> KingParrot: Maxthon is interesting, but I think I'd trust a free-software browser more.
[03:07] <KingParrot> http://www.maxthon.com/blog/maxthon-cloud-browser-for-linux-v1-0-4-0-beta-is-released-feature-the-new-cloud-sync-manager/
[03:07] <KingParrot> Maxthon is free
[03:07] <KingParrot> but I don't think it is open sorce.
[03:07] <KingParrot> Maxthon is out of China
[03:07] <KingParrot> I have used it on windows.
[03:08] <mason> Yeah, I meant "libre" rather than "gratis" when I said "free".
[03:08] <KingParrot> I had tried to find it off and on for linux but yester day I manages to obtain 3 copies
[03:09] <mason> That's a problem you wouldn't have with free software.
[03:09] <KingParrot> Some of the very first Opera browser a person had to pay to use.
[03:09] <KingParrot> I have a copy of a paid version of Opera.
[03:10] <KingParrot> can install it and run it but can't use it online I don't think
[03:10] <mason> The only commercial software I use regularly nowadays is xv.
[03:10] <KingParrot> I avoid trial versions.
[03:11] <KingParrot> I was testing out vpn and one of them had a 7 day trial so I sent them a Email.
[03:12] <KingParrot> I told them they needed to be more bold and more clear that it was a trail version.
[03:12] <KingParrot> I think that is what I told them.
[03:13] <KingParrot> Pay stuff of free stuff I am fine with but deceptive trial version junk I dispise.
[03:14] <KingParrot> One thing I don't like about these new windows PC is you pay for the OS but they do not provide a copy of that OS with the PC.
[03:14] <KingParrot> bunch of crimanals.
[03:14] <mason> Yeah, that practise is a bit troubling.
[03:14] <KingParrot> If I pay for all that system soft were it should also be in the box.
[03:15] <mason> Luckily Ubuntu doesn't have that problem. :)
[03:15] <KingParrot> I wipe HD often
[03:15] <KingParrot> I do clean installs often
[03:15] <KingParrot> but recently I did a funny
[03:15] <KingParrot> Linux has been a real trip I had done things I never done with windows.
[03:16] <KingParrot> I currently have 8 o
[03:16] <KingParrot> I have 8 OS on this HD
[03:17] <KingParrot> I messed up on the one and gavein the partion size of the OS to small so even defragmenting it did not help its performance.
[03:17] <mason> KingParrot: I need to head off for the night, but good luck with your MATE install, and have fun!
[03:17] <KingParrot> so instead of wipeing the Drive I just Installed that Esact disro again but with more drive space.
[03:18] <KingParrot> u have a Email?
[03:20] <KingParrot> mysqladmin
[03:24] <KingParrot> idk what or if I should get a LightDM.
[05:07] <KingParrot> they can walk
[05:34] <KingParrot> 	alex
[05:49] <KingParrot> ftp
[18:32] <rthornton> what files do I need to edit in order to setup a static IP system?
[18:33] <TJ-> rthornton: depends which release of Ubuntu. Recent releases use netplan
[18:34] <rthornton> ok, so I am experiementing with both 16.04LTS and 17.10
[18:35] <rthornton> is netplan installed by default, or I sudo apt install netplan
[18:36] <TJ-> nplan allows you to write a service-agnostic configuration which at boot-time is processed by a generator to write the correct config for the system's network handling service, systemd-netword or network-manager are the two renders currently supported
[18:36] <TJ-> rthornton: for 17.10 it'll be by default; for 16.04 you'll need to install package 'nplan'
[18:37] <rthornton> ok, thx
[19:44] <HardcoreKrypton> anyone use curtin ?
[23:03] <KingParrot> Hello Wackos and Gents
[23:03] <KingParrot> bleach
[23:04] <KingParrot> Any one here use vsftpd?
[23:15] <cncr04s> no it sucks
[23:17] <Ussat> ftp....really ?
[23:17] <KingParrot> yes
[23:17] <KingParrot> my attempts to use Samba has not gone well
[23:18] <Ussat> ftp = bad
[23:18] <Nivex> is sftp an option?
[23:18] <KingParrot> I did set up ftp on WinXP
[23:18] <KingParrot> sftp?
[23:18] <KingParrot> what is the diffrance?
[23:18] <Nivex> sftp is a subsystem of SSH
[23:18] <KingParrot> is one easyer to set up then then the other?
[23:19] <Ussat> use scp or sftp
[23:19] <Ussat> they are secure
[23:19] <Nivex> if you already have SSH working, you've got the server side done
[23:19] <Ussat> Nivex, you mean scp
[23:19] <KingParrot> I think my CentOS 6.8 may have SSH out of the box.
[23:19] <Nivex> Ussat: I said what I meant.
[23:20] <KingParrot> What should I use?
[23:20] <Nivex> sftp will more closely resemble a standard ftp client. scp can act more like cp but with network paths
[23:21] <Nivex> what is your use case?
[23:21] <KingParrot> This package provides the "Very Secure FTP Daemon", written from the ground up with security in mind. It supports both anonymous and non-anonymous FTP access, PAM authentication, bandwidth limiting, and the Linux sendfile() facility.
[23:21] <KingParrot> sftp?
[23:22] <Nivex> without using acronyms, tell us what you are trying to do
[23:22] <KingParrot> Implements the SSH2 protocol and its SFTP subsystem for ProFTPD
[23:23] <KingParrot> I have a Ethrnet cable from Linux PC to WinXP
[23:23] <KingParrot> I would like to send a large ISO file from the Linux to the XP
[23:24] <Nivex> directly cabled? no switch or network infrastructure?
[23:48] <KingParrot> It is not a fance cable just a patch cord
[23:48] <KingParrot> I would not mind having a fancy usb cable made for doing this.
[23:51] <KingParrot> Pure-PHP implementation of SFTP


[15:59] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I can confirm that Super + P does cycle through output modes, and that I'm in the same mode as the one I started in -- not mirrored or external-only modes, but the default mode. Yet in the Displays setting, if I select a higher resolution (which is available and native to the displays), I get "could not set the configuration for CRTC 64" (or 65).
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> Maluno: there's also http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us , but not sure what you're checking for your event
[16:00] <Scrivener> The only time I have had this message before was when a kernel update broke my 3-monitor setup a long time ago, but this did not happen following a kernel update.
[16:00] <OerHeks> vy, oke, then download the sourcecode, and build yourself http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/protobuf
[16:00] <Scrivener> And my 3-monitor setup is working, except that the two external displays are not displaying at their native resolution.
[16:01] <Maluno> Just want to reach someone from the official team so I can be redirected to the right person. Anyway, thanks for the help.
[16:01] <mbalmer> Maluno, you are aware that a company is behind ubuntu?
[16:01] <mbalmer> maybe contact them
[16:02] <Maluno> Ok, sure.
[16:02] <vy> Why is it so hard to do not talk at all when you do not know the answer...
[16:02] <Maluno> Nice tips :9
[16:02] <Maluno> :)
[16:03] <OerHeks> vy ?? i cannot give you a package to download, as they are removed from the server. nice attitude ..
[16:04] <Lumia930`> without enabling samba .. is it possible to change the workgroup name in ubuntu ?
[16:04] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I got it! I should document it somewhere.
[16:04] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: yes you should
[16:04] <Scrivener> In Displays settings, here's what fixed my problem. I disabled *one* of the external monitors, and saved the configuration.
[16:04] <Scrivener> Then, with one disabled, I changed the resolution on the other one successfully and saved.
[16:04] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: awesome
[16:04] <Scrivener> Then I enabled the other one again, and it enabled at the proper resolution.
[16:05] <vy> OerHeks: Because in the worst case you can recommend ppl to download .deb files manually and install via dpkg, which I also did. Compiling from the sources should be the last resort. Further, IIRC, installing an old version also should possible via apt-get/aptitude by making some configurations to the package system.
[16:05] <Scrivener> Think perhaps I should ask + answer my own AskUbuntu question about it?
[16:05] <Scrivener> That way others might find it.
[16:05] <kidx> sofar so good thanks
[16:05] <kidx> if i need any more help ill comde back i am noff now
[16:05] <cfhowlett> Scrivener, that would certainly earn you karma! :)
[16:06] <lhorace> So update break the system
[16:06] <Scrivener> cfhowlett, meh, couldn't care less about that -- I just want to save people some frustration ^.^
[16:07] <MrElendig> Scrivener: there is a wiki you know
[16:10] <Lumia930`> without enabling samba .. is it possible to change the workgroup name in ubuntu ?
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> I am having a little problem extracting pdf pages from pdf files using Ghostscript, does that problem could be entertained here?
[16:11] <OerHeks> Lumia930`, sure, you need to edit 2 places,
[16:11] <Scrivener> cfhowlett, I know I have a stackexchange user (I've done some things on AskUbuntu before), but I can't seem to locate it... heheh. >.>
[16:11] <OerHeks> !hostname
[16:14] <akaWolf> hello! which is current status of Compiz in latest Ubuntu?
[16:15] <OerHeks> !info compiz
[16:17] <Spawnster> wb Spawny
[16:17] <akaWolf> OerHeks: it's not that what I want to know
[16:18] <Spawnster> is it possible to mount a hard drive on a win8 machine on my network?
[16:19] <OerHeks> akaWolf, so what do you want to know then?
[16:19] <OerHeks> unity is runing on top of compiz.
[16:19] <Reptilia> Anyone here possesses/had some experience with a Lenovo Thinkpad T400? I want to buy a used one, and i need some insights if there is some known, confirmed issue with this model, if i should pay attention to something specific and similar stuff. Thanks in advance.
[16:20] <bazhang> Reptilia, try ##hardware
[16:20] <OerHeks> That lenovo t400 runs linux fine, iirc
[16:20] <Spawnster> Reptilia: i know one issue
[16:21] <Jakey2__> how many people use irssi?
[16:21] <Pici> Jakey2__: a lot.
[16:21] <OerHeks> Jakey2__, more than one
[16:21] <bazhang> Jakey2__, thats hard to say
[16:21] <Jakey2__> i find hexchat alot easier to use
[16:21] <bazhang> so use it
[16:21] <Pici> Jakey2__: Do you have a question about it? This is a support channel after all.
[16:22] <OerHeks> hexchat=gui, irssi=tty
[16:22] <Spawnster> what is the best irc client to use i using xchat right now
[16:22] <Jakey2__> it was just a conversation
[16:22] <Pici> Jakey2__: Check out #ubuntu-offtopic for other conversations :)
[16:22] <Jakey2__> fair enough
[16:23] <Jakey2__> :)
[16:23] <Jakey2__> im using it now
[16:23] <Jakey2__> just installed it
[16:23] <Spawnster> anyone still use BitchX?
[16:25] <KindOne> xchat is rather dead, better off with hexchat
[16:26] <Spawnster> i will try that thanks KindOne
[16:27] <Xsta> hi
[16:28] <jbwiv> hi guys. I'm trying to install gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.10. I've follow the instructions here (http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/how-to-install-gnome-314-in-ubuntu.html) but no matter what I do, 3.12 seems to get installed instead. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or can you suggest a channel I should go to to ask?
[16:28] <Xsta> Everybody feels good?
[16:29] <Xsta> @jbwiv i don't know your fail...
[16:29] <Jakey2__> how do i run a python program with python2
[16:29] <Jakey2__> from terminal
[16:29] <Xsta> What is Phyton?
[16:29] <Jakey2__> *python
[16:29] <Prezident> Please jbwiv do not use third-part guides. Thats never good.
[16:29] <tomodachi> Jakey2__: python2 file.py
[16:29] <Jakey2__> thanks
[16:29] <Xsta> What is python?
[16:29] <jbwiv> Prezident, is there a first-party guide to install gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.10?
[16:29] <caonicaldroid> what is good video editing software that can put videos in slow o
[16:29] <caonicaldroid> mo
[16:30] <OerHeks> !info python
[16:30] <Prezident> Of course jbwiv.
[16:30] <Prezident> http://askubuntu.com/questions/536721/how-to-get-gnome-3-14-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:31] <Prezident> I see they linking to that page aswell, lulz
[16:31] <Prezident> I never used any third part guides anyhow
[16:31] <Prezident> Dangerous and outdated mostly
[16:31] <jbwiv> Prezident, I see. didn't realize askubuntu was considered an authoritative source. ok, thanks
[16:32] <Prezident> better then unknown sources
[16:32] <caonicaldroid> Anyone know how to build apps on ubuntu?
[16:32] <OerHeks> I wouldn't recommend installing gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.04.
[16:32] <Prezident> I wouldnt recoment installing gnome anytime :P
[16:32] <tomodachi> oro: why not?
[16:32] <tomodachi> oro: sorry wrong person
[16:32] <tomodachi> OerHeks: why not
[16:32] <oro> tomodachi :) np
[16:32] <alex__c> hi :) I'm planning to move my ubuntu 14.10 install from an 160gb drive to a newly bought 1tb drive, should dd suffice for this? or do I need to partition the new drive first, etc?
[16:33] <OerHeks> IT can, for sure, break your system, wait for vivid 15.04
[16:33] <Prezident> caonicaldroid: what do you mean ?
[16:33] <tomodachi> alex__c: i would recomend using ghostzilla instead its quicker
[16:33] <caonicaldroid> Anyone wanna partner up and teach me java and C++
[16:33] <tomodachi> alex__c: dd will read every block meaning even unused space will be copied , while ghostzilla will be smarted and just copy allocated space
[16:33] <alex__c> thanks tomodachi
[16:34] <Prezident> caonicaldroid: no. google is your friend for that, not #ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:34] <caonicaldroid> I want to learn the first language needed to build apps but its too complicated on ubuntu
[16:34] <jbwiv>  update-manager
[16:34] <caonicaldroid> okay sorry.
[16:34] <jbwiv> woops :)
[16:34] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: apps for what? ubuntu desktop? if so there are many programing languages you can use
[16:34] <Prezident> No problem caonicaldroid this is for Ubuntu Support.
[16:35] <alex__c> tomodachi did you mean Clonezilla? ghostzilla seems to be a browser
[16:35] <caonicaldroid> I meant for android
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I am wanting to build a simple generator app but i dont know where to start\
[16:36] <Prezident> alex__c: yes it would.
[16:36] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: you want to build apps for android on ubuntu?
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I may have asked this before lol but is there anything i should do to speed up ununtu? Does anyone do anything to optimize it
[16:36] <Prezident> Wont be any problem with dd aslong your target disk is bigger then your source drive. Good luck.
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I do know windows avg pc tuneup is a must for most users
[16:36] <MrElendig> caonicaldroid: it is not
[16:37] <MrElendig> and it often doesn't actually give you any real performance improvement
[16:37] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: your speed up question is to generic to give a clear precis answer perhaps if you told us WHAt you experienced as slow we could offer help
[16:38] <Prezident> Androoid is for #android, this is still a support channel for Ubuntu not for teching language, keep top topic please. You can build android apps on any distro you want. So plase.
[16:38] <Prezident> please.
[16:38] <editha> hi
[16:38] <Prezident> hi
[16:38] <caonicaldroid> Never mind i dont want to waste your time
[16:38] <MrElendig> caonicaldroid: C++ and java are not good languages to start out with as your first language either
[16:38] <Prezident> You not wasting any time, but read topic.
[16:39] <editha> so i got the following problem, my monitor suddenly doesnt get recognized anymore, hence: http://pastebin.com/4PkjYN4k
[16:39] <caonicaldroid> Whats the best tgo start out with MrElendi
[16:40] <Prezident> What have you done editha for get this, played with kernel settings or it just happened after an update, upgrade, did you remove any modprbe? More info would h elp.
[16:40] <lhorace> I was able to fix my issue with 'polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1' by removing 'ulatencyd' according to this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/1240336
[16:40] <editha> Prezident, no kernel changes, only thing i did was adding a DVB-stick and installing me tv
[16:40] <Prezident> Try remove and add the contact again editha it might help, there is a a bug similiar to this.
[16:41] <editha> Prezident, what contact?
[16:41] <Prezident> Your on workstation yes?
[16:41] <editha> Well a desktop pc yep
[16:42] <Prezident> The contact you connect to your monitor might be plugged out and in again for ubuntu to find the drivers automaticly again .. VGA HDMI DVI dunno what you using.
[16:42] <editha> aah lol ok
[16:42] <editha> ok i'll try that
[16:42] <Prezident> Did you reboot for this happend or you just installed the program and then it stopped?
[16:43] <editha> Prezident, no it happened after rebooting
[16:43] <Prezident> Might be the bug then, try it if it wont help we go further
[16:44] <editha> Prezident, so just replugging won't help, do i need to reboot?
[16:47] <editha> Prezident, i'm trying to reboot, maybe that helps brb
[16:48] <Prezident> no shouldnt be needed
[16:48] <Prezident> Ah
[16:49] <caonicaldroid> Okay I actually need help now.
[16:49] <caonicaldroid> Everywhere I go ubuntu touch is not compatible with sasung galaxy S3?
[16:49] <Prezident> !ask
[16:50] <caonicaldroid> Does anyone know why it wont work or has gotten it to work?
[16:50] <Prezident> hows it went editha ?
[16:50] <OerHeks> !phone
[16:50] <editha> Prezident, so after turning the monitor off and on while rebooting, everything is fine now :)
[16:50] <Prezident> Great editha !
[16:50] <OerHeks> caonicaldroid, join #ubuntu-touch for phone questions, that S3 is (not yet) suported
[16:50] <Prezident> Thats a kernel bug.
[16:50] <Prezident> Glad it helped :)
[16:51] <caonicaldroid> I am a rom dev for this phone maybe i can help
[16:51] <caonicaldroid> ok
[16:51] <OerHeks> caonicaldroid, sure, any help is welcome. they can help you out how.
[16:51] <SerialDev> an interesting question for fellow ubuntu afficionados: anyone know of a cure for the workspace bug?
[16:51] <editha> now xchat crashed
[16:52] <editha> Prezident, so it's all fine after rebooting
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have an amazon ec2 server
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am trying to set IPv6 tunnel on my Ubuntu EC2. after I try to start the interface, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248292/
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> this is the guide I am following: http://www.datacentrix.org/blog/faq/IPv6-tunnel-+-rDNS-on-Amazon-EC2-running-Ubuntu.htm
[16:52] <Prezident> editha: great i saw! =) COngratulations, its kernel bug ubuntu is affected at..
[16:52] <editha> Prezident, i see, ok thanks for helping!
[16:53] <Prezident> np
[16:54] <Prezident> What your "ifconfig -a" command gives for result  MDTech-us_MAN ?
[16:54] <somsip> MDTech-us_MAN: any good to you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/109709/hurricane-ipv6-buffer-space-error
[16:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> somsip: nope
[16:58] <Prezident> site0 wont help you MDTech-us_MAN
[16:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh, right
[16:58] <Prezident> nice server by the way! >OT>
[16:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> I forgot to give you the interfaces file
[16:58] <uuhimhere> is it possivle to build apparmor for android
[16:59] <Prezident> Yes.
[17:00] <Prezident> sudo apparmor_status
[17:00] <Prezident> has to install the module first uuhimhere
[17:00] <Prezident> Dunno if its default in your version.
[17:00] <uuhimhere> Prezident: is there a howto
[17:00] <Prezident> Sure.
[17:00] <Prezident> sec
[17:01] <Prezident> http://www.howtogeek.com/118222/htg-explains-what-apparmor-is-and-how-it-secures-your-ubuntu-system/ < third part aware it might be un-updated.
[17:01] <uuhimhere> is it judt a matter of enabling flafs and rebuildung kernel
[17:01] <Prezident> Wich kernel you running?
[17:01] <Prezident> 3.19?
[17:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10258544/
[17:01] <uuhimhere> 3.4.5 samsung frankenkernel
[17:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> interfaces ^
[17:02] <Prezident> You running ubunu uuhimhere ?
[17:02] <Prezident> ubuntu*
[17:02] <caonicaldroid> wait does ubuntu use kernels like android?
[17:02] <uuhimhere> not on the pgone no
[17:02] <somsip> MDTech-us_MAN: does the fact that EC2 has no direct support for ipv6 make any difference to tunnelling?
[17:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> caonicaldroid, all OS had kernals
[17:02] <makerops> hi, im having trouble with nvida/3 monitors and unity;  all the monitors work, and are in the right orientation, but the desktop never loads
[17:02] <Prezident> Yes caonicaldroid every GNU/linux has its own kernel, linux kernel is built on unix kernel, so yes.
[17:02] <Prezident> or own kernel, its built from the main kernel.
[17:02] <Prezident> Wich is mainly supported by Red Hat devolopers..
[17:03] <Prezident> I think torvalds own 10% or something still
[17:03] <makerops> i just get hte background and a mouse cursor, and ive been through the threads on ubuntu looking for a oslution etc
[17:03] <caonicaldroid> so could you get tweaked kernels for ubuntu like you can for android?
[17:03] <Prezident> Redhat 40% last time i readed about it, long time ago tho
[17:03] <somsip> Prezident: linux kernel is linux kernel. you're not correct in what you say
[17:03] <Prezident> somsip: linux kernel is built on unix kernel.
[17:03] <Prezident> Linus just expanded it a bit.
[17:03] <somsip> Prezident: toally incorrect
[17:03] <k1l> caonicaldroid: you know that linux OS are named linux because they use the linux kernel?
[17:04] <uuhimhere> og ffs
[17:04] <caonicaldroid> Yea I just look deep into this because I love to modify things to the full extent lol
[17:04] <Prezident> Proof me different somsip
[17:04] <bazhang> Prezident, take this elsewhere
[17:05] <Prezident> bazhang: bettert you be quiet i just replied a question
[17:05] <jhutchins> caonicaldroid: Building your own kernel is a good way to learn about how it works.
[17:05] <k1l> caonicaldroid: you could build your own kernels for ubuntu.
[17:05] <bazhang> Prezident, thats enough
[17:05] <Prezident> lmao.
[17:05] <somsip> !compilekernel | caonicaldroid (lots of info here)
[17:06] <ludocode> hey folks, question. why do i still have to choose a mirror when installing? why doesn't it just resolve to a cdn?
[17:07] <ludocode> what invariably happens is that within a couple months of installing, ca.ubuntu.com or whatever canadian mirror gives me a 404 on some packages, and i always end up stripping out the ca. and everything works again
[17:08] <ludocode> like i don't get why the apt sources isn't just cdn.ubuntu.com or something which redirects to the nearest mirror
[17:08] <k1l> ludocode: its made to decrease the heavy traffic from the main servers. in general that works very well. i dont know whats up in canada with the mirrors
[17:08] <ludocode> and i also don't get why apt doesn't try a different mirror if a package download fails. arch's pacman does this, it automatically tries the next mirror in the list if a package is missing
[17:09] <k1l> ludocode: ca.ubuntu.com is already a loadbalancer and not one specific server
[17:09] <somsip> ludocode: maybe one to ask ubuntu-mirror-admins (see link on here) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[17:11] <uuhimhere> i know this is slightly oot but since apparmors kinda canonicals baby; can it be used on dro8d
[17:12] <jhutchins> ludocode: There are all sorts of solutions like mirrorselect that will pick your fastest mirrors.
[17:12] <popey> uuhimhere: what is dro8d ?
[17:12] <jhutchins> ludocode: Sometimes a mirror will drop out of sync, or will be in the middle of an update when you connect.  It's just something that happens sometimes, it's just a glitch, not a system failure.
[17:12] <bazhang> leet spelling of android popey
[17:13] <ludocode> kinda sounds like a system failure if an update fails due to missing packages... as in, the system isn't working properly if it offers me updates that aren't actually available
[17:14] <bazhang> ludocode, is your release still supported? that would be a reason for that
[17:14] <rj24> hi guys, have a question: I'm looking at htop on my ubuntu server, and there's a few apache processes with high CPU usage and on the TIME+ column they show 500h, 1000h, 2000h, times like that, is this normal?
[17:14] <k1l> ludocode: on systemsettings, software and updates you can choose the mirror.
[17:14] <bazhang> ludocode, what version are you currently on
[17:14] <uuhimhere> bazhang: sorrt am on ma phone
[17:14] <k1l> ludocode: but if you are not interessted in any advice but just in ranting: this is the wrong channel then
[17:14] <ludocode> i'm not actually using ubuntu anymore. i'm on arch mainly, but i'm installing debian on another system right now and it asked me to choose a mirror
[17:15] <k1l> ludocode: m(
[17:15] <ludocode> and it got me to thinking about how the ubuntu canadian mirrors were always broken, so i came here to ask about it
[17:15] <bazhang> ludocode, #debian
[17:15] <ludocode> yeah i know, but i used ubuntu for about 9 years, figured people might have insight about how these mirrors are supposed to work
[17:16] <bazhang> ludocode, the release cycle is shorter, that would be a factor, but again you are not on ubuntu, so please #debian
[17:16] <ludocode> i didn't ask in #debian because i haven't had these problems with debian.
[17:17] <jhutchins> ludocode: The mirrors are mostly auto-maintained and hosted by an organization that has some bandwidth and the ability to sponsor a server.
[17:17] <jhutchins> ludocode: Most of them host more than one distribution.
[17:18] <jhutchins> ludocode: Some of them aren't terribly reliable - it's not like there's a financial incentive for the best uptime.
[17:18] <robk> i'm currently trying to compile audiere-1.9.4 and it says that I need libFlac, and it's currently disabled, I ran $ apt-get install libflac-dev, expecting that to install the devel files for headers and such, and when I went to re-compile, nothing showed up, I ran $ sudo updatedb && locate .h | grep flac, and nothing showed up.
[17:18] <jhutchins> ludocode: There are private, commercially maintained servers you can pay to use.
[17:19] <robk> does libflac currently not work for 14.04 LTS?
[17:19] <robk> I've googled for this, haven't found much of anything useful.
[17:20] <Prezident> somsip: On October 5th, 1991, Torvalds sent a posting to the comp.os.minix newsgroup announcing the release of Version 0.02, a basic version that still needed Minix to operate
[17:20] <ikonia> Prezident: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[17:20] <Prezident> ikonia: how your comment has?
[17:20] <ikonia> Prezident: to find out if your conversation is anything to do with ubuntu and either allow you to continue or ask you to stop
[17:22] <Prezident> You are still off topic, im talking about the source of Ubuntu and you talking nonsence, im done now but you are way more OT then me since we talked about ubuntu included a question regards the kernel earlier.
[17:26] <Mongo44> In Ubuntu 14.04 I can't figure out how to switch workspaces.
[17:26] <Mongo44> Cntrl+Alt+Arrow Key does nothing.
[17:27] <Prezident> have you enabled workspace under apperiance?
[17:27] <bazhang> Mongo44, gnome-shell or unity
[17:27] <Term1nal> Is there a way in which I can install a package from utopic in trusty? I need a newer version of exim4 that has support for a feature I need. The version in utopic has the feature I require.
[17:27] <teward> Term1nal: manually download the package file, or find a PPA with the backport?
[17:27] <Prezident> you can try super + s for get an overview Mongo44
[17:27] <bazhang> Term1nal, dont mix repo versions
[17:27] <Gwiz> Mongo44, check this Ask Ubuntu article, it might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[17:28] <Mongo44> It is Unity. I don't think Gnome has that shortcut.
[17:28] <bazhang> Mongo44, gnome-shell has tons like that, depends on the extension like alt tab coverflow
[17:32] <Gwiz> Hey all, I'm running Ubuntu 14 in a virtualbox VM, it runs slow even with guest additions installed because I have integrated graphics.   Xubuntu or Lubuntu should work for that
[17:33] <bazhang> how much ram is given to the vm Gwiz
[17:33] <Gwiz> 4GB
[17:34] <michaelaguiar> One of the people in my company are hammering Google, through a crawler maybe.  In Ubuntu (my router), is there a way to see which computer is accessing a site multiple times?
[17:34] <Gwiz> teward, hopefully I can find a way to do it without needing to reinstall :(
[17:34] <Kelli> hi #ubuntu
[17:35] <bazhang> Gwiz, you can easily install a new de with lubuntu-desktop package then choose at login
[17:35] <Gwiz> michaelaguiar, depending on the router, you can check the traffic log and see the mac address and what IP/site they are going to
[17:35] <Kelli> how do i install video driver? i just got ubuntu for the first time in many years
[17:35] <Prezident> I doubt that michaelaguiar, but you can get ip pretty easy if its no hardware firewall before it.
[17:35] <Gwiz> Oh I wasn't aware of that, thank you bazhang
[17:35] <Prezident> Kelli: wich gfx you got?
[17:35] <michaelaguiar> Gwiz: Ah good idea.  Where are traffic logs located?
[17:35] <Mongo44> I figured out how to enable workspaces thank you.
[17:35] <Kelli> amd
[17:35] <bazhang> Gwiz, any of the -desktop packages, in fact
[17:36] <Gwiz> michaelaguiar, depends on the router you use. I use a watchguard so I have to connect to i through software and use system manager. Best to google your router's model for admin guide and check there.
[17:36] <michaelaguiar> Gwiz: My router is actually just an ubuntu machine
[17:36] <Gwiz> Oh, then I have no idea :P
[17:37] <Gwiz> I'm new to ubuntu myself
[17:37] <Prezident> try load fglrx Kelli
[17:37] <Prezident> as module.
[17:37] <Kelli> i have no idea what that even means
[17:37] <Prezident> sudo modprobe fglrx
[17:38] <TheXenith> hello! I am running Ubuntu 14.10 stock and would like to install GNOME3
[17:38] <k1l> Kelli: go to "system settings" then software and updates, then last tab and see if it offers prop. drivers
[17:38] <bazhang> gnome-shell TheXenith
[17:39] <Kelli> k1l, ok thats way easier to figure out
[17:39] <k1l> TheXenith: install "gnome-shell" logout and then choose gnome on the login screen
[17:40] <Kelli> k1l, i have 3 options, using x.org X server open source, using proprietary from fglrx and proprietary from fglrx-updates
[17:40] <TheXenith> thank you bazhang and k1l
[17:40] <Kelli> which of the 3 do i want?
[17:40] <paigeinpink78MN> does anyone use the HDHomeRun PRIME?
[17:40] <Prezident> fgrlx Kelli.
[17:40] <Prezident> if you got AMD / ATI
[17:41] <k1l> Kelli: take the fglrx
[17:41] <paigeinpink78MN> ?
[17:43] <uuhimhere> is this apparmor on android: http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/android/f/509/t/258697
[17:43] <Prezident> Yes.
[17:44] <Pici> uuhimhere: What does that question have to do with #ubuntu ?
[17:48] <kite> hi! need help with ubuntu. acer timelinex 3820tg ati video card disabled in bios, intel video active. Problem - opengl renderer doesnt work, video renders very slowly...
[17:49] <Prezident> You running i915 module?
[17:49] <Prezident> Then it has to be modesetted 1 , you can do it with modprobe i915 modeset=1
[17:49] <Prezident> try that.
[17:49] <Prezident> Worked kite
[17:49] <Prezident> ?
[17:49] <Josh195> Hello?
[17:49] <Josh195> Hi all! :D
[17:49] <kite> just a sec
[17:50] <Josh195> How is everyone
[17:50] <kite> how can i see if im on i915?
[17:51] <Prezident> lspci -k
[17:51] <Prezident> easiest way.
[17:51] <jatt> why would you use the i915 driver if you have an ati card?
[17:51] <Josh195> guys i was wondering where the canberra gkt module was on a 64 bit sytem
[17:52] <Prezident> Ah, lol if you got ati i readed way to quick i saw you wanted activatet the intel driver with opengl.. Anyway try do "lspci -k" and seewich kernel is loaded atm ..
[17:52] <kite> yes, im on i915
[17:52] <Prezident> okey
[17:52] <Prezident> then just try modeset it with 1..
[17:52] <Prezident> sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1
[17:53] <jatt> if you have an ati card you should use the radeon or fglrx driver no?
[17:53] <kite> do i need to reboot after 'modprobe i915 modeset=1' ? it didnt help
[17:54] <Masterjedi688> Hello, can someone help please.  I just downloaded bodhi and I need help setting up my wireless DSL router
[17:54] <Prezident> no kite, then it dosnt work..
[17:54] <Josh195> I need help connecting my Chromebook with Crouton to Bluetooth
[17:54] <Prezident> try remove the i915 module and load the fglrx one.
[17:54] <jatt> lol
[17:54] <kite> Prezident im new to linux ;(
[17:55] <Prezident> Ok
[17:55] <hopkinsss> hi all
[17:55] <Prezident> Dunno how i can describe it easier :/
[17:55] <Masterjedi688> I'm new to bodhi.  Right now I'm on my iPad
[17:55] <k1l> Masterjedi688: yes, see on the bodhi site where the bodhi support is.
[17:55] <Josh195> hi hopkinss
[17:55] <kite> jatt i dont need ati, i need work time. with intel its 6 hours with ati 2.
[17:55] <Josh195> are you a linux master 420?
[17:55] <kite> Prezident i'l try and google for it
[17:56] <Prezident> as root: rmmod i915 && modprobe fglrx
[17:56] <jatt> anyway, the right thing to do is to install the correct drivers
[17:56] <k1l> Prezident: what? do you even know what you suggest to do there?
[17:56] <Prezident> Its temporary its nothing for perm until its set kite.
[17:56] <hopkinsss>  i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:56] <andreas_> hello, the computer has been getting suspiclious slow after I set up a ftp server without passsword and too many permissions, I tried re-installing ubuntu but I have 4 hard drives mounted at the time, and only formated the one with ubuntu on. So I ran a rootkit scanner and was wondering if any one can take a look?
[17:56] <andreas_> http://pastebin.no/350o
[17:56] <Masterjedi688> I tried to google how to do it but I could not find it and the bodhisattva page does not open
[17:56] <Prezident> k1l: he running wrong module on wrong graphic card.
[17:57] <Josh195> Man this place is busy
[17:57] <Josh195> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[17:57] <kite> Prezident i got module i915 is in use...
[17:58] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:58] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:58] <bazhang> Josh195, chromebook running chromeOS?
[17:58] <Josh195> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:58] <Josh195> via crouton
[17:58] <bazhang> !info crouton
[18:01] <Josh195> I know its a difficult problem, i will pay if someone can get it working through paypay or something
[18:01] <Josh195> 10$?
[18:01] <Prezident> Whats wrong?
[18:01] <Prezident> I dont need any payment, just says what you need help with, i assume its ubuntu issue.
[18:02] <Josh195> my Toshiba 2 chromebook has bluetooth but when i launched ubuntu through crouton it says no adapter found
[18:02] <jhutchins> !bluetooth
[18:02] <Prezident> Josh195: i would suggest you to join #gentoo instead since chromeos is runned on gentoo source since 2010 or something. Probably better help there.
[18:03] <Josh195> it says "bluetooth not found" when i try to eneable the service
[18:03] <jhutchins> Josh195: See above.
[18:03] <Josh195> ok
[18:03] <Josh195> are there people on it?
[18:03] <Prezident> yes over 1000.
[18:03] <Josh195> wow
[18:04] <Josh195> alright
[18:04] <Josh195> thanks
[18:04] <Prezident> np
[18:04] <fspkwon91> Hey guys im having a configuration problem in KDE when i switch to plastik theme logout, and login my apps crash on startup and either kwin or the entire desktop locks up, has this bug been reported?
[18:04] <fspkwon91> Im on LTS btw
[18:05] <fspkwon91> i changed my settings to clear session on exit and start new session on startup, i am able to keep the classic kickoff menu as i thought that was causing it at first
[18:05] <fspkwon91> but it is either the window decoration engine itself or just the plastik theme
[18:05] <fspkwon91> or a bug in kwin or something im not too sure
[18:06] <fspkwon91> using standard buttons im able to logout and login just fine, so im not too bummed, i just like my classic xperience =p
[18:06] <Prezident> You can try #ubuntu-kde fspkwon91
[18:07] <fspkwon91> so install the ubuntu settings for KDE?
[18:07] <fspkwon91> because as of right now its working, and i highly doubt thats going to fix the plastik theme
[18:07] <fspkwon91> the theme itself has gone through bug fixes due to malalignment problems and such
[18:10] <ChokoIt> anybody here get turned on by feces?
[18:11] <io> bazhang:
[18:11] <ChokoIt> I do
[18:11] <phunyguy> meh.
[18:12] <MrAsk> Hello, I run lubuntu on netbook with 128 mb ram and it worked. But when I did same on system with 2gb ram desktop alone used 1gb.  I need ~1.6gb only for runing virtual machine I want. Am I fucked or is there something I can do?
[18:12] <bazhang> MrAsk, no cursing here
[18:12] <jhutchins> !ram
[18:13] <k1l> MrAsk: can you show a "free -m"
[18:13] <k1l> MrAsk: in a pastebin, obviously
[18:14] <fspkwon91> to run a virtual machine you need at least 1gb memory
[18:14] <fspkwon91> and itll run
[18:14] <fspkwon91> you need 512mb for ubuntu regardless with a paging file of course
[18:14] <fspkwon91> 756 out of the box
[18:14] <fspkwon91> so thats about 1.5gb for linux and a linux vm with desktop environment
[18:14] <fspkwon91> not counting the processor
[18:15] <jhutchins> fspkwon91: I've run ubuntu in 256M - I think I had it in 128M for a while. (12.04)
[18:15] <MrAsk> fspkwon91: for whonix I have to use 2 virtual machines one for getway one for workstation
[18:15] <fspkwon91> with a swap partition? more than likely
[18:15] <fspkwon91> for it to just sit in the ram
[18:15] <fspkwon91> its going to take up around 500-800mb
[18:15] <MrAsk> k1l: http://pastebin.com/v2mhjSEg
[18:15] <MrAsk> can I use swap and be safty if I want to encrypt system?
[18:16] <fspkwon91> with xfce or openbox maybe 256-512mb
[18:16] <k1l> MrAsk: please see the link: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:16] <fspkwon91> to install it maybe with a text installer on 128mb ram
[18:16] <k1l> MrAsk: it explains exactly how you have to interpret the ram usage on linux. you actually got 1747 "free" ram
[18:17] <fspkwon91> or with an old distro itll definitely work because it was built around those limitations
[18:17] <jhutchins> fspkwon91: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements <- 512M
[18:18] <fspkwon91> yeha im judging by how much my full desktop uses
[18:18] <fspkwon91> and it doesnt swap to disk at all
[18:18] <fspkwon91> even though i have a swap partition
[18:18] <MrAsk> thanks guys
[18:18] <fspkwon91> use a text installer and look into openbox
[18:19] <fspkwon91> openbox or xfce4
[18:19] <k1l> fspkwon91: i think we solved the issue already
[18:19] <fspkwon91> =[ im just throwing poop
[18:19] <fspkwon91> ahuhah!
[18:25] <arun_> guys, any news softwares released or gonna release?
[18:30] <patter> Hi
[18:30] <patter> Anybody
[18:30] <Tw33k> Hi
[18:31] <k1l> yes, a lot. just ask your ubuntu question
[18:31] <patter> Wat question??
[18:32] <k1l> patter: this is the ubuntu technical support channel
[18:33] <patter> Any other channels
[18:33] <k1l> !alis | patter
[18:36] <jhutchins> arun_: http://freecode.com/
[18:37] <jhutchins> arun_: http://sourceforge.net/home.html
[18:40] <MrAsk> which part of ubuntu documentation says how to disable ICMP timestamps?
[18:43] <OerHeks> MrAsk, 2 ways to do that, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-ping-response-ubuntu-server/
[18:43] <MrAsk> OerHeks: thanks
[18:47] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to add battery info to cairo dock?
[18:48] <brahdude> Any updates on the Ubuntu Arabic font?
[18:59] <hopkinsss> hi
[18:59] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[19:01] <DJones> hopkinsss: I wish I could help, I've got a Hp G72, but its only intel graphics, mine doesn't have dual graphics
[19:02] <caonicaldroid> why is nobody un ubuntu touch channel
[19:03] <DJones> caonicaldroid: I'msure there are, but as its a smaller channel, you may have to be patient waiting for a response
[19:04] <simosx> DJones, actually I replied to caonicaldroid within the minute he asked. He did not notice.
[19:04] <b43> what version of ubuntu has full apps and suites?
[19:05] <b43> lubuntu is just insufficient on a high end device
[19:05] <simosx> b43, your first option would be Ubuntu, 14.04.1
[19:06] <b43> simosx, thx for quick reply, does that come with the full apps and suites already, or they still need to be installed from synaptics?
[19:06] <GeertJohan> quick question. I'm building a new PC and wondering how AMD/ATI support is these days... I can remember from 4/5 years back that I had to get a nVidia because otherwise ubuntu/linux wouldn't have good support...
[19:07] <DJones> b43: Lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu all share the same app database, so they'll all all share the the same apps, but you may need to install them on whichever desktop you decide suits you
[19:07] <simosx> b43, 'synaptic' is not used/recommended anymore for package management purposes. There is the Software Centre, which has all sort of apps.
[19:08] <simosx> b43, there is a repository in the Software Centre called 'partner', that when enabled, has apps like Skype.
[19:08] <b43> djones, ok got it
[19:09] <b43> simosx, im tryin to find one where i dont have to manually install office suites, pdf editors, and other software, is there one or is it wishful thinkin?
[19:09] <b43> its a high end device, gaming unit
[19:10] <simosx> b43, since you mention a new PC, your best best is to use 'Ubuntu'. Office Suite, PDF reader and other software are preinstalled. If they are not, you can easily install them from the Software Centre (it's the App Store for Ubuntu).
[19:12] <b43> simosx, ok so regular ubuntu, because i started with lubuntu n it barely comes with anything, superfast bootin n loadin time, but i have to install so much
[19:13] <simosx> b43, that would be my recommendation.
[19:13] <b43> simosx, ok tyvm
[19:19] <CoreSaint> what would be the good way to manage init services, as it seems there is no one way to manage it properly, it is all over the place, i kind of use "chmod -x /etc/init.d/<service>" method but i know it is not the good way of doing this, unfortunately it seems the only way that works, any tips on how to do it differently
[19:23] <linuxlite> guys can i add kali linux tools to my linux lite?
[19:24] <DJones> linuxlite: No idea, if you install Ubuntu we may be able to help you, but we have no idea about 3rd party distributions
[19:24] <bazhang> ask in the linuxlite support forums
[19:24] <thelegendmink> is there a way to detect ddos attacks automatically?
[19:26] <steeven44> cc sa vas
[19:27] <DJones> !fr | steeven44
[19:28] <Programmer_> hmm
[19:39] <Guest33992> im currently on a live usb i succesfully installed ubuntu alongside a previous installation of ubuntu 8 and an ntfs partition with my files can i resize my former installtion of ubuntu i have run out of space on my cnewest install
[19:39] <PinealGlandOptic> hi everyone. I'm looking for simple newsletter software. maybe PHP script. MailMan is heavyweight for me. what would you suggest?
[19:40] <Guest33992> my drive is 500gb 200gb are formatted to ntfs 10gb are unused i would like to extend my home directory to install more software
[19:41] <Guest33992> anyone listening
[19:41] <davidkron2> Hi, do you know whats wrong with samba if i can only connect localy when i use localhost or <IP_ADDRESS> but not the local ip
[19:42] <davidkron2> I get NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL on 192.168.147 but not on <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:45] <Guest33992> #nick josh
[19:45] <Prezident>  /nick nickname
[19:45] <felix_mc> hey guys, I have a simple openldap server, what do I need to configure both client and server side to get pam_mount to work with it?
[19:46] <Guest33992> so
[19:46] <Guest33992> gah]]
[19:47] <Guest33992> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260792/
[19:47] <Guest33992> help resizing
[19:48] <terratian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260792/
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> !details | terratian
[19:49] <terratian> I want sdb2 to merge with sdb5
[19:50] <terratian> i have run out of space
[19:50] <bekks> terratian: Pastebin sudo fdisk -l please
[19:50] <k1l_> terratian: well, use gparted?
[19:50] <terratian> i booted from live usb have gparted open
[19:51] <Bashing-om> terratian: A picture from GParted is worth a thousand words .
[19:51] <foundit> everytime i log into ubuntu it says i need to install the same update, it says some are from an untrusted source, i say ok, it says it installs, then it says the same thing next time i log in
[19:51] <terratian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260851/
[19:51] <foundit> one of the updates is for chromium too which i uninstalled.
[19:51] <terratian> fdisk paste
[19:52] <bekks> terratian: Which Ubuntu is that?
[19:52] <k1l_> terratian: well, sdb5 is inside an extended partition. so you cant merge that.
[19:53] <terratian> i have three ubuntu installs on disk, i only need one
[19:54] <terratian> how would i merge
[19:55] <terratian> i have ubuntu 14 ubuntu 8 and ubuntu 10
[19:55] <k1l_> terratian: which partition do you want to erase?
[19:56] <terratian> i assume the partition with the astrick is my current install
[19:56] <k1l_> terratian: you can only erase one partition and then put the free space into the other partitions.
[19:57] <k1l_> well. to be sure you could boot into your favorite ubuntu and see "mount" there
[19:57] <terratian> sdb2 sdb3 sdb7 would be amazing to have as a place to further expand my ubuntu 14 installation
[19:57] <platz> nvidia package depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm .. is there any way to uninstall lightdm completely without forcing another graphical login manager to be installed?
[19:57] <k1l_> terratian: sdb3 is a extended one. its like a container where 5,6,7 are put in.
[19:57] <terratian> is my assumption correct about the astrix
[19:58] <terratian> k1l_ i see
[19:58] <k1l_> terratian: the asterisk is the boot flag. but ubuntu doesnt use that flag at all. i would boot into it and see what exact partition is mounted as / to be sure
[19:58] <david1> hi, do you guys have any idea what problem im having with samba, i cant connect localy using 192.. only using localhost or 127.0.01
[19:59] <jatt> post exact command you try and error message
[19:59] <david1> smbclient -U guest //192.168.147/movies
[19:59] <david1> NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
[19:59] <EriC^^> you're missing an octet there
[20:00] <terratian> sdb7 is where ubuntu 14 is installed
[20:00] <k1l_> the ip is not completed
[20:01] <jhutchins> terratian: Since you're messing with partitions, you should have a backup.  Since you have a backup, you can simply repartition the drive, format, and restore.
[20:01] <david1> hmm correct, thanks
[20:01] <david1> now i just need to get it working from my client...
[20:01] <terratian> jhutchins ?
[20:02] <jhutchins> terratian: There really isn't a way to merge live filesystems.
[20:03] <OShobbit> could someone tell me if I am able to bulk rename folders using the rename command?
[20:03] <jhutchins> terratian: You can grow or shrink them, but you can only grow them if there is adjacent free space.
[20:03] <EriC^^> OShobbit: yes
[20:03] <OShobbit> ok so how do I get it to know I want folders renamed?
[20:03] <jhutchins> terratian: If you had set them up in LVM you could join two partitions together into one space, but you couldn't save the data on them.
[20:03] <terratian> oh so i cant make free space before the installation
[20:04] <nick___> I have the Intel n2840 SoC with an integrated Max98090 audio driver ... I can play audio, but I cannot change the volume ... could you please advice me where I can start debugging this issue from?
[20:04] <k1l_> terratian: this is on a harddisk, right?
[20:04] <terratian> i cant make some sort of link to my home directory that ubunut14 installs data to
[20:04] <OShobbit> jhutchins, thats good, so how do I get it to know I want folders renamed?
[20:04] <terratian> yes
[20:05] <terratian> k1l_ i am booted currently on usb looking at hd
[20:05] <EriC^^> OShobbit: usual usage applies
[20:06] <david1> smbclient -U guest //<IP_ADDRESS>/movies
[20:06] <k1l_> terratian: did you confirm what you thought? because you will need to erase some partitions.
[20:06] <david1> On my laptop gives:
[20:06] <david1> NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[20:06] <k1l_> david1: is guest mode enabled?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> david1  can you ping it?
[20:07] <terratian> where can i post a screenshot of gparted
[20:07] <david1> ping <ip> you mean? it responds
[20:07] <terratian> i want to erase some partitions
[20:07] <k1l_> terratian: imgur.com
[20:07] <david1> smbclient -L //<IP_ADDRESS> -U% ------- also fails
[20:08] <ikonia> that suggests your host is not responding
[20:08] <ikonia> (or responding with a good response)
[20:09] <david1> wierd
[20:09] <terratian> http://imgur.com/mzd3uNQ
[20:09] <azizLIGHT> What ubuntu is the next LTS?
[20:09] <EriC^^> 16.04
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> azizLIGHT  that's in april 2016
[20:10] <jhutchins> david1: I believe samba still uses a "listen" directive that tells it what address to listen on.
[20:10] <terratian> this is what gparted shows http://imgur.com/mzd3uNQ
[20:11] <azizLIGHT> Ah ok
[20:11] <azizLIGHT> I thought it was 15.04 for some reason
[20:11] <ikonia> default is * all interfaces
[20:11] <jhutchins> terratian: Do you have backups in case you kill the wrong partition?
[20:11] <ikonia> so the "bind" parameter needs to be set to lock it to an interface
[20:11] <terratian> As long as i dont destroy the ntfs i really dont care
[20:12] <terratian> i dont have a way to back that data up
[20:12] <jhutchins> terratian: Then you need to back up the NTFS.
[20:12] <terratian> i suppose i need to reinstall
[20:13] <terratian> Must be a way to do what I am trying
[20:13] <terratian> i hate manually setting up partitioning
[20:13] <terratian> for install
[20:13] <k1l_> terratian: i dont know what linux partition is what ubuntu etc
[20:13] <k1l_> terratian: as i said, its you to sort that out.
[20:14] <terratian> sdb7 is ubuntu 14
[20:14] <terratian> everything else is irrelevant besides ntfs partition
[20:14] <ikonia> it's not irrelevant
[20:14] <ikonia> changing 1 partition has an impact on the others
[20:14] <terratian> does ubuntu not have symlinks
[20:15] <ikonia> what does symlinks have to do with anything ?
[20:15] <k1l_> terratian: if you want you could erase sdb2, then increase the sdb3 which is the exxtended one. then increase the sdb7 one.
[20:16] <terratian> my language for computers is weak but cant i somehow 'tell' ubuntu to install software in free space other than on the home partition
[20:17] <k1l_> terratian: you setup there is quite strange anyway. imho ditch the old ubuntus you dont use anyway and make one proper install with enough space for a daily usage
[20:17] <sm_>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/sm/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_2040.query
[20:19] <Bashing-om> terratian: +1 k1l_ :; Unless you also resize the Windows'partition 'sdb1' still will have a very small partition for ubuntu . I see often recommended the least for ubuntu 30 gigs.
[20:21] <terratian> can i resize the windows partition without destroying data
[20:21] <k1l_> theoretically: yes. but as we know murphys law: better have a backup :)
[20:22] <Bashing-om> terratian: There is ALWAYS that risk of data loss in moving partitions. Back up Windows prior to resizing ( defrag X2, check disk X2 ) .
[20:22] <danofsatx> my apt-mirror script isn't fully working - it is throwing up a lot of errors saying it can't find a file, yet I can wget that exact file from the sytem that is running apt-mirror. for examplem, on of the files it can't find is ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu//dists/utopic/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[20:22] <terratian> i fly by the seat of my pants, i suppose i will re-install resize windows and do it right
[20:22] <terratian> x2?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> terratian: Twice = X2 .. makes sure Windows' partition table is intact and accurate.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> terratian  sometimes it's better to start over, instead of reparing things
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> terratian  and always backup first, before you start changing partitions
[20:29] <xeno-k> hi
[20:29] <sm_> hi guys
[20:29] <xeno-k> hi sm_
[20:29] <terratian> term command for defrag and chkdsk?
[20:29] <xeno-k> fsck
[20:30] <k1l_> terratian: use windows to defrag windows. ubuntu doesnt need defrag
[20:30] <terratian> i dont have wondows just an ntfs partition
[20:31] <xeno-k> terratian maybe defraggler has a linux ver
[20:31] <xeno-k> or if it hasnt use wine
[20:31] <terratian> i have hated windows ever since i deltreed internet explorer in college when i tried to rid it from windows 98
[20:36] <OERIAS> Hi, I set Nemo as the default file manager in Unity, however when ever I play an optical disk or usb flash drive or some mobile device, nautilus launches, any help?
[20:39] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq
[20:39] <terratian> this is what i have to install ubuntu on now
[20:40] <terratian> i need help manually seeting up lvm and partition
[20:40] <inex> !patience
[20:42] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq this shows what i have to install ubuntu on i could use some help m,anually setting up for the install
[20:43] <terratian> is this a complicated request
[20:45] <alphaomega28> I am getting this error when I try to restart apache and I am wondering if anyone might know why: "(process:1562): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion 'g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed"
[20:45] <alphaomega28> Thanks.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  look for this file:  ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  open it with gedit
[20:47] <BluesKaj> terratian:  click on change and set the partition to ext4 and check the format box, then install now
[20:47] <terratian> blueskaj that will give me lvm?
[20:48] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, i opened the file
[20:48] <OERIAS> now what?
[20:48] <terratian> Change is greyed out only plus sign
[20:49] <BluesKaj> terratian:  only if you choose the lvm oprtion, if one appears
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  ok, now paste this line in the list   inode/directory=nemo.desktop
[20:49] <jhutchins> terratian: What features of LVM do you plan to use?
[20:49] <terratian> that wants to delete my ntfs file systme which has data
[20:49] <OERIAS> on default or add applications?
[20:49] <terratian> i need help setting up mount points
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  guess it doesnt matter where
[20:50] <feliwir> hey
[20:50] <terratian> I just assumed lvm was something i would want to do
[20:50] <OERIAS> restart unity or restart nemo?
[20:50] <feliwir> when installing ubuntu 15.04 the installation gets stuck at "creating ext4 partitiont"
[20:50] <jhutchins> terratian: I like the idea of keeping things simple and not adding things you're not going to actually use.
[20:50] <feliwir> i am using an ssd and it doesnt have any bad sectors
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  logout and in again
[20:50] <feliwir> help is appreciated
[20:50] <Bashing-om> terratian: Homework time. LVM = Logical Volume Management. What other 'volumes' are you going to make available for LVM to set up on ? LVM can be a steep learning curve, sure you want to go there ?
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !15.04 | feliwir
[20:51] <k1l_> feliwir: 15.04 is still not stable. use #ubuntu+1 please
[20:51] <terratian> steep learning curves equals me screwing up my ntfs data...
[20:51] <OERIAS> thank you MonkeyDust
[20:51] <feliwir> yeah, but i saw this error for older versions aswell
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  works?
[20:51] <OERIAS> let me try
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  thank me if it works
[20:52] <terratian> my question becomes what mount points do i need to create and what sizes, the free space on this drive needs ubuntu
[20:52] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq
[20:52] <jhutchins> terratian: For a general purpose system I would keep one main partition and swap.  Keep it simple.
[20:53] <terratian> so set the mount point to home
[20:53] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, no luck
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: If you chop the system up in to partitions you pretty much guarantee that you will eventually run out of space on one and have plenty on another.
[20:53] <vivid> no, set the mount point to root /
[20:53] <OERIAS> It still launches nautilus
[20:53] <terratian> what is a genrous amount for swap?
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: Yep, what vivid said, set it to /
[20:53] <vivid> generous would be the amount of ram available i would say
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: 2X ram to 2GB, 1X for 4 or above.
[20:54] <terratian> i have 4gb of ram so set swap to 8gb
[20:54] <jhutchins> terratian: You need at least as much swap as RAM if you're going to suspend to disk.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  then maybe in dconf editor, moment
[20:54] <terratian> the rest goes to root?
[20:54] <k1l_> swap=ram if you want swap for hibernation.
[20:55] <jhutchins> terratian: Yep.
[20:55] <terratian> here we go!!!!
[20:55] <jhutchins> Managing more than 4G of swap is cumbersome, I usually don't go higher than that even if there's more ram.
[20:55] <terratian> type should be ticked to logical or primary?
[20:56] <jhutchins> terratian: primary
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  install dconf-editor
[20:56] <terratian> specifically should i set primary for swap first or root?
[20:57] <vivid> it doesnt matter
[20:57] <terratian> ok
[20:57] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, dconf-editor is already insalled
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  great, but nvm... read this.. http://www.fandigital.com/2013/01/set-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu.html
[20:58] <Bashing-om> terratian: I would suggest that '/' be set as primary . ( can have a max of 4 primary partitions, one of which mey be an 'extended' partition) . then make up the extended partition and in this extended partition make up the swap partition . // only a suggestion .
[20:59] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Q7t4WVO
[21:00] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, yes I did follow that tutorial
[21:00] <OERIAS> it manages the desktop
[21:00] <OERIAS> but nautilus still performs some actions
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  yes, same here
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> moment
[21:02] <OShobbit> sorry to ask the same thing twice, but can I have an example of how rename can be used to change folder names?
[21:03] <jhutchins> OShobbit: In the time you've been asking you could probably have renamed all of the folders manually, or just tried the command to see for yourself.
[21:03] <Bashing-om> terratian: Looks maybe doable, I do reserve judgement as I see '/' as sdb5 , rather than as expected 'sdb3' . Do not know what transpired there ! 3 primary partitions will work .
[21:04] <terratian> I switched it / comes first now follwed by 4gb swap
[21:05] <vivid> it was sdb5 probably because he selected at end of drive
[21:06] <jhutchins> Partition numbering is not necessarily in physical order on the disk.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  what is "some actions" for you?
[21:08] <Exagone313> hello, when I use apt-get install it install automaticcaly without saying yes or no. how to disable this?
[21:08] <jk> why cant i change my desktop environment on login in the unity greeter in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:09] <vivid> click the ubuntu logo next to the login line
[21:09] <Exagone313> it's an edited ubuntu server i think (by edited i mean configuration, default installed packages etc...)
[21:09] <jk> vivid: there is none
[21:09] <k1l_> Exagone313: if it only installs that one pacakge there is no question about that
[21:09] <Exagone313> ?
[21:09] <Exagone313> when i use apt-get install at home or on my others server it does not do this
[21:10] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, like put in an optical disk, or opening the rubbish bin, or when an application give you the option to show a file via file manager.
[21:10] <jk> vivid: i know that icon from 12.04 but it seems to be gone in 14.04
[21:11] <terratian> thanks for your help everyone, install going swimmingly.\
[21:12] <betim> hi, just installed ubuntu 14.01 but I'm having a problem with mouse cursor, I would like to use Inherits=core, but on some programs, like firefox it reverts to DMZ-Black, how can I fix this?
[21:13] <jhutchins> Exagone313: Did you change the apt configuration?
[21:14] <jhutchins> Exagone313: If what you're installing is an exact match with no dependencies it assumes that you wanted to install it and doesn't bug you.
[21:14] <jhutchins> Exagone313: If it does pull dependencies or is not an exact match it should ask.
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  ok, open dconf editor and go to   org nemo preferences
[21:14] <Exagone313> ok there was no dependencies
[21:15] <Exagone313> ok thanks
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  havent found it yet, tho
[21:15] <jk> oh, it reappeared after i installed a second desktop environment
[21:15] <emi_> hi
[21:16] <OERIAS> I wish Ubuntu would have nemo as default
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  everyone has different wishes
[21:17] <OERIAS> true.
[21:17] <emi_> hi every one
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  it says here, it *can* be done, but not easily, you'd have to purge and reinstall nautilus, after nemo is installed http://askubuntu.com/questions/391230/how-to-remove-nautilus-without-screwing-up-unity
[21:20] <tgp1994>  Hi everyone - I currently have ubuntu installed to a portable HDD, sort of a as a portable diagnostics system. Eventually, one of my computers will be getting a new HDD. My question is, can I boot from this portable HDD, then run the Ubuntu installer from the live desktop to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu to the new HDD?
[21:22] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, that's what i figured. Since it is dependent on Nautilus
[21:24] <FOSSAddict> hi, i want to use gparted to shrink my windows partition but it says ntfs is unsupported and requires ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g, even through i installed ntfs-3g
[21:30] <Bashing-om> FOSSAddict: Windows' tools for Windows' file system. Ubuntu tools for ubuntu issues. Best advise I can give.
[21:31] <FOSSAddict> the tutorial i read said gparted would be faster than any tools available on windows in shrinking the windows partition <.<
[21:33] <SCHAAP137> FOSSAddict, ask in the ##windows channel
[21:34] <platz> nvidia package depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm .. is there any way to uninstall lightdm completely without forcing another graphical login manager to be installed?
[21:34] <FOSSAddict> okay ill try, thanks
[21:36] <nss> Hello, I am trying to dualboot Windows 98 and Lubuntu but ran into some problems with partitioning. Windows 98 is already installed but needed to format the entire disk as FAT32 for itself and I can't seem to resize it.
[21:37] <FangornTheEnt> Hi, I'm trying to make a bootable usb for Mac because the mac isn't currently working. How can I do it either with an application or computer that currently has Linux?
[21:37] <SCHAAP137> FangornTheEnt, use unetbootin
[21:38] <SCHAAP137> FangornTheEnt: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:38] <FangornTheEnt> "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)"
[21:38] <SCHAAP137> ah, didn't see that
[21:39] <FangornTheEnt> It's ok. I need it to boot on a mac.
[21:51] <tnkhanh> Hi when will 14.04 have Java 8?
[21:51] <tnkhanh> I mean in repo
[21:54] <_com_> hi
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> tnkhanh  if you don't get answer here, try this    Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:58] <jhutchins> tnkhanh: It won't.  The packages are frozen at this point, they won't be advancing major versions.
[22:02] <freitas310> #emacs
[22:13] <_com_> i need support with the following problem: is there any bug correlation between systemd / upstart configs. and no hdmi output? thanks!
[22:15] <ObrienDave> more likely a driver issue
[22:16] <caonicaldroid> What channel is devoted to devving ubuntu apps?
[22:17] <caonicaldroid> ?
[22:17] <k1l_> what sort of apps?
[22:18] <caonicaldroid> I am looking to make a game similar to minecraft.
[22:18] <_com_> obriendave: failed to start user service: unknown unit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>since yesterday there is no more hdmi support. only these reports in my log. seems like a false correlation? thanks.
[22:18] <caonicaldroid> I know little about coding but it may be a good little project because i want to run minecraft on here but it will not work
[22:18] <k1l_> caonicaldroid: #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:19] <caonicaldroid> thanks
[22:20] <bren_comp> If you have systemd, there's your first problem. Aha.
[22:21] <_com_> bren_comp: using upstart.
[22:23] <m1dnight_> guys i'm having some strange behaviour with ssh keys
[22:23] <m1dnight_> I just created a new sshpair named "webspace" in ~/.ssh on my ubuntu *serveR*
[22:24] <m1dnight_> I then wanted to do ssh-copy-id, but I had to execute eval `ssh-agent` first. Then I did "ssh-add webspace"
[22:24] <_com_> bren_comp: it's like a shot. no hdmi, but fancy systemd-login logs.:-)
[22:24] <m1dnight_> when I then tried to ssh to my webspace everything worked fine. When i dsconnect the ssh sessions and come back, it's the same story again.
[22:25] <m1dnight_> (i.e, asking for my password instead of using my ssh key)
[22:25] <caonicaldroid> Anyone want to partner up and do something on ubuntu lol Im bored
[22:28] <skinnydude> Hey, when I spoof a mac address, It resets to the default when I connect to the network. I've tried editing the permissions.rules, and even then it still resets to the default. Does anyone know a fix?
[22:30] <bekks> skinnydude: Ask your network administrator ;)
[22:31] <skinnydude> I don't believe its on the network side... It works when I do it from windows.
[22:40] <christian3399> Hey guys... Is this the support chat?
[22:40] <bekks> christian3399: Yes it is.
[22:40] <k1l_> christian3399: yes. ubuntu support channel
[22:41] <christian3399> Awesome! I have just installed Ubuntu and I don't know how to set up a new wi-fi connection...
[22:41] <bren_comp> Can you connect to a network? Do you have the drivers installed?
[22:42] <christian3399> It is saying my wireless switch is off, but I can't switch it back... It is a button and it continually stays orange, not blue like it does when on...
[22:42] <wilsonb> howdy
[22:42] <k1l_> what gives you "rfkill list"? put it in a pastebin
[22:43] <christian3399> It worked fine in Windows, so I don't know why it doesn't do it here...
[22:43] <christian3399> Okay I will...
[22:43] <bren_comp> I'd say just try doing an ethernet connection first, haha.
[22:43] <christian3399> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:43] <christian3399> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:43] <christian3399> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:44] <wilsonb>  Using Ubuntu 14.10, is anyone else experiencing a double login / log off ? Example, I go up to top right and shutdown, then a few seconds later the main Ubuntu logon screen comes on and have to click the power/ shutdown again to shut down
[22:45] <k1l_> what laptop is it?
[22:45] <wilsonb> Dell
[22:45] <christian3399> I am on an Ethernet connection right now...
[22:45] <bren_comp> Oh well uh, that makes sense.
[22:46] <christian3399> Has anyone here set up a wi-fi connection before?
[22:47] <k1l_> christian3399: the hard blocked is the issue
[22:47] <k1l_> what laptop is it?
[22:47] <christian3399> That's what I thought... It is a Compaq Presario
[22:48] <k1l_> christian3399: what is the "rfkill list" output after "sudo rfkill unblock all"?
[22:48] <christian3399> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:48] <christian3399> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:48] <christian3399> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:49] <christian3399> Still the same I think...
[22:50] <k1l_> the more details you give the better the support is :)
[22:50] <k1l_> what does "lspci" name for that wifi card?
[22:50] <christian3399> Oh okay... I don't know exactly what you need...
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:52] <k1l_> !paste | christian3399
[22:53] <christian3399> Sorry... I am still new to this...
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
[22:53] <ObrienDave> rofl
[22:53] <k1l_> christian3399: stop. use a pasteservice as the bot told you
[22:54] <Basketball> !ops | christian3399
[22:54] <Laban> Hello!
[22:54] <k1l_> Basketball: no need for that
[22:54] <ObrienDave> Basketball, that was not necessary
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> hi
[22:55] <Basketball> hey
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> I've got a problem running 14.04
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> on my sony vaio
[22:56] <ubuntu1515> I've tried changing the bootorder in windows and on a live cd
[22:56] <ubuntu1515> to no avail
[22:56] <giuseppe_82> hi all
[22:56] <ObrienDave> which model VAIO?
[22:56] <giuseppe_82> does anyone know how to get nvidia-96 legacy driver working on xorg>1.12 and newer kernels? I'm using nouveau driver but i'm having some problems. Can anyone help? Btw I have an old GeForce4 MMX agp 8x. Thanks in advance
[22:57] <ubuntu1515> SVE14A3V1E
[22:57] <giuseppe_82> shall I upgrade my video card? :(
[22:58] <Laban> Looks like my system isn't logging anything anymore. I've restarted rsyslogd (and the machine) but it just looks weird. Nothing in /var/log/syslog or messages. Enabled logging in 50-default.conf as well.
[22:58] <ubuntu1515> you should prob
[22:58] <Laban> Any idea how to solve?
[23:00] <giuseppe_82> nouveau driver really sucks on my gpu
[23:00] <andril> same here
[23:00] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: well, that card is plain old.
[23:00] <andril> running 14.04 on my Dell Latitude e6530
[23:01] <giuseppe_82> andril, you have that video card too?
[23:01] <krabador> !italian | giuseppe_82
[23:02] <giuseppe_82> krabador, i'm not talking italian i guess. unless i've turned crazy
[23:02] <giuseppe_82> so what was that for?
[23:02] <krabador> giuseppe_82, it's to tell you abount the official italian ubuntu irc channel
[23:03] <_com_> is there any structure to solve problems like :  if ... then, and so on. my problem is, there is no hdmi-output since yesterday, and i don't know why. it's like a creatio ex nihilo. thanks.
[23:03] <giuseppe_82> thank you, it's very kind from you
[23:04] <giuseppe_82> ..
[23:04] <acovrig> anyone gotten the lexmark 5650 to work in ubuntu?
[23:04] <giuseppe_82> k1l_, I tried installing last legacy 96 driver, i've spent all night
[23:05] <giuseppe_82> modyfing the .run package, there's no way to do it
[23:06] <andril> giuseppe_82, nope mine is ivy bridge
[23:06] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: nvidia drops old cards. if that card is not supported by nvidia, well use the open source one or get a new card
[23:07] <giuseppe_82> i guess i'd need an agp one supported by nvidia. can you suggest anything?
[23:09] <digcloud> I have a script that produces a zip file with a version number in it. I then want to run another command against that file, but I need to get the filename. Is there some way to do that (maybe sed/awk)?
[23:10] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: sorry, i dnt mind agp cards anymore.
[23:11] <jatt> basename
[23:11] <anonymous_> hi
[23:11] <anonymous_> french
[23:12] <k1l_> !fr
[23:12] <bekks> giuseppe_82: nvidia doent support aGP cards anymore.
[23:12] <anonymous_> ubuntu-fr
[23:14] <giuseppe_82> really?
[23:19] <_com_> i have no hdmi-output since yesterday. maybe there are some modules not loaded. but i don't know how to proof.
[23:26] <Arnie25> is it possible to disable visualizations in ubuntu? I have a laptop with i7 cpu but apparently the graphics card is not strong enough to handle the fade-in/out animations of the GUI windows. I am running ubuntu with virtualbox and I installed the virtualbox app using apt-get, but i am still getting very slow fadein/out animations.
[23:28] <k1l_> so its ubuntu inside the virtualbox?
[23:28] <k1l_> did you install the guest-additions there?
[23:28] <Arnie25> k1l_: yes
[23:29] <OerHeks> Arnie25, checked the settings, has the GPU the max memory ? that can solve those issues, also enable 3d
[23:29] <Arnie25> i installed: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[23:29] <Arnie25> ok let me check
[23:31] <Arnie25> OerHeks: total memory available is 128mb
[23:31] <Arnie25> should I give it half?
[23:32] <ObrienDave> don't use fade in/out
[23:33] <ObrienDave> you're running a virtual machine. it will NEVER have the same performance
[23:33] <Arnie25> how do i disable fadein/out?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> that would be in the guest OS settings somewhere
[23:38] <hiccupFunction> hello there, is there a way to remove an unwanted wifi network from your available networks list? it is constantly auto-connected as the first one.
[23:38] <hiccupFunction> I mean remove permanently
[23:39] <caonicaldroid> ubuntu wont recognize my samsung galaxy proclaim (SCH-S720C)
[23:43] <wilsonb> howdy
[23:43] <wilsonb> Using Ubuntu 14.10, is anyone else experiencing a double login / log off ? Example, I go up to top right and shutdown, then a few seconds later the main Ubuntu logon screen comes on and have to click the power/ shutdown again to shut down...Sound familiar?
[23:43] <gigi> oj
[23:44] <gigi> u
[23:46] <LordDragon> hey all. i am having trouble installing ubuntu. everything works fine until the ifnal step, the bootloader. no matter what i choose, it says "failed"
[23:46] <daftykins> LordDragon: computer details?
[23:46] <LordDragon> i tried my windows drive, the 2nd hdd i isntalled ubuntu to
[23:46] <LordDragon> sda is windows 8.1
[23:46] <LordDragon> sdab is storage media hdd
[23:47] <LordDragon> sdc is ssd i am installin gubuntu to
[23:47] <creatorb> LorDragon: do you mean grub error ?
[23:47] <LordDragon> yes
[23:47] <daftykins> 'gubuntu' ?
[23:47] <LordDragon> grub-install fails
[23:47] <LordDragon> daftykins: typo :)
[23:47] <daftykins> so windows 8.1 is EFI installed?
[23:47] <LordDragon> yes
[23:47] <daftykins> and you booted ubuntu media in EFI mode?
[23:48] <LordDragon> uh. nope. how do i do that?
[23:48] <LordDragon> ohh wait i think i ight know
[23:48] <daftykins> !uefi | LordDragon Check here
[23:48] <LordDragon> wow i never thought there was sa difference booting "usb drive" and "EFI: usb drive"
[23:48] <daftykins> sure is
[23:48] <LordDragon> wow that explains it
[23:49] <LordDragon> btw where is the best place to put the bootloader? windows drive? id like to be able to use windows bootloader to do it
[23:49] <daftykins> you must boot EFI and make sure you're selecting the small FAT EFI partition on sda and make it Ubuntu's /boot, the installer should do this for you
[23:49] <daftykins> LordDragon: Windows to pass to GRUB? mmmmm no.
[23:50] <EriC^^> LordDragon: what do you mean by windows bootloader?
[23:50] <LordDragon> BCD
[23:50] <LordDragon> i think thats what its called
[23:50] <daftykins> LordDragon: concentrate on making it work right once, first
[23:51] <daftykins> then you may mess to your hearts content :) but on your own time
[23:51] <LordDragon> ok boot efi mode. gonna resinatll now
[23:51] <EriC^^> ok
[23:54] <EriC^^> LordDragon: i can't see how booting in non uefi mode would cause grub to fail, it would try to install grub to the mbr, and create a bios-boot partition
[23:54] <LordDragon> hmm i dunno
[23:54] <mcc> Hello... I am experimenting with an Ubuntu livecd... it is Ubuntu 14.10 on a Yoga 3 (nonpro)...  I then closed/slept the device until this morning... just i took it out and turned it on, the screen was black and the mouse cursor was visible, and i couldn't do anything or click on anything...
[23:54] <EriC^^> i can see it failing if you booted in efi mode and you actually used msdos usually
[23:54] <mcc> i then closed it again, opened it again and pressed a keyboard key, and the screen came back...
[23:55] <EriC^^> LordDragon: are you still in the installation process or
[23:55] <LordDragon> yes
[23:55] <mcc> this is very odd... have you ever seen anything like this, do you know i there might have been a way out of that?
[23:55] <LordDragon> its installing now
[23:55] <EriC^^> ok
[23:55] <LordDragon> daftykins: so even though sda is my windows drive, i want to choose that for bootloader?
[23:55] <daftykins> mcc: no point even trying to comment on a live session on a modern laptop.
[23:56] <mcc> daftykins: okay. you anticipate an installed copy would work better?
[23:56] <daftykins> LordDragon: EFI works with a FAT partition for EFI boot at the start of the disk, this is where an EFI booted Ubuntu would place boot files.
[23:57] <daftykins> LordDragon: it is nothing like legacy boot, wherein GRUB can be places elsewhere and just a boot sector point to the relevant place
[23:57] <LordDragon> daftykins: ok so its automatic then
[23:57] <LordDragon> yep completeed with no errors
[23:57] <LordDragon> woot
[23:57] <daftykins> it *might* be automatic
[23:57] <daftykins> :>
[23:57] <daftykins> mcc: well for one thing an installed copy can install updates
[23:58] <daftykins> mcc: but i would try 14.04.1 first, not 14.10 necessarily - have you googled online for success on that model?
[23:58] <LordDragon> and im in :)
[23:58] <LordDragon> now to install nvidia drivers
[23:59] <faran> hey....how to install skype in xubuntu
[23:59] <mcc> daftykins: i guess i don't know... it seems surprising to me that an older ubuntu might work better? :O
[23:59] <LordDragon> so i dont suppose there is a handy dandy apt-get install i can do for the latest nvidia driver?
[23:59] <daftykins> LordDragon: not latest no, what card is this?
[23:59] <LordDragon> nvidia gtx 970