[00:00] <iConfused> I think I might switch my thumbdrive over to Ubuntu instead of Xubuntu once Maverick comes out :)
[00:00] <Doyle> aptitude offers a more robust removal functionality, other than that I don't htink it matters
[00:00] <demonspork> !PM | Galeo
[00:00] <Dulak> aptitude is much better at resolving dependencies in my experience
[00:00] <Nate____> haha, I'm not trying to spam. From what I read, it's a real problem and there are like 10 different ways to fix it. I'm on day three, and if I don't fix this, it's back to Windows 7. =/
[00:00] <wieshka> Nate____: posible that ndiswrapper is that what you are looking for
[00:00] <frank__> lol sebsebseb this just feels wrong frank@frank-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install aptitude
[00:01] <ZekeS> Hokay stupid question: how long a usb cable can I safely use to connect a printer?
[00:01] <erUSUL> !broadcom | Nate____
[00:01] <sebsebseb> frank__: yeah I know what you mean
[00:01] <ZekeS> 2-3 m ok?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> frank__: by the way #ubuntu+1 is 10.10 channel at the moment, since final isn't out yet, but yeah
[00:01] <Galeo> test
[00:01] <Nate____> wieshka: Yea, I have tried that before, but I guess there are linux dirvers now? Isn't that for using windows drivers and the ndiswrapper emulates it?
[00:01] <Nate____> I'm not sure
[00:01] <Galeo> sorry Demon
[00:01] <iConfused> I had issues with the fwcutter one, had to use the proprietary one or whatever
[00:01] <frank__> sebsebseb: thx
[00:02] <guestcable> I need help with grub; i downloaded ubuntu 3 times last week and there is a grub terminal screen at the boot; grub only did it when i updated 10.10
[00:02] <Oni> hey guys got a odd question if you have a few
[00:02] <wieshka> Nate____: ubottu already gave you a correct link to manual :)
[00:02] <Galeo> !PM | Galeo
[00:02] <erUSUL> !ask | Oni
[00:02] <frank__> lol, does anyone have experience with cairo dock? seems like none of the developers tried multi monitor mode ;)
[00:02] <Nate____> wieshka: Thanks, yea I have tried this before. I will give it a shot agian.
[00:03] <Oni> I have a cytech cyborg keyboard and it has prograbamable keys what program would I use to assign them to specific programs
[00:03] <frank__> boy, does this looks fscked up *G*
[00:03] <Oni> programable even sheesh
[00:03] <ZekeS> BAN HIM
[00:03] <Oni> who?
[00:04] <frank__> Oni: you'll have to fsck with the HAL, been there, done that. No pleasure at all, believe me
[00:04] <Verminator> I use a separate partition for /home and recently upgraded (by way of fresh install) to 10.04 from Kubuntu 8.04, w/o altering /home.  is there any chance that having parts of old programs in /home could make the new OS misbehave?
[00:05] <Oni> I thought there was a few programs avalable to do it easier from what others have told me
[00:05] <divadgnol67> Verminator - programs are normally installed to /etc so you should be safe
[00:05] <deathnight114> is there a program like manycam for ubuntu?
[00:06] <Oni> Verminator: shouldnt to my knowledge I did the same didnt have any issues
[00:06] <Doyle> Verminator: there are a lot of hidden configuration files in your home dir... it's possible
[00:06] <frank__> Oni: lol *G* thought that, too!
[00:06] <frank__> Oni: usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop and usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty and usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor are your "friends"
[00:06] <wieshka> divadgnol67: , Verminator but there still are .programname folders, what can contain config data
[00:06] <divadgnol67> most of the hidden files are .files and should not impact the rest of the system
[00:07] <frank__> Oni: and if you ever get to something useful, PLEASE let me know, hell I even will create an email alias for you to paste in a public logged channel
[00:07] <wieshka> divadgnol67: they should not impact, but no for 100% sure :)
[00:07] <Oni> lol will do frank
[00:07] <guestcable> i downloaded ubuntu 3 times, and everytime there is a grub terminal screen when my pc boots, is there a way that i can fix the problem or should install another boot loader.
[00:07] <divadgnol67> true, not 100% but unlikely
[00:07] <Verminator> I ask b/c ubuntun 10.04 is giving me a lot of non critical, but annoying issues
[00:08] <SaintSapphire> I'm having an odd issue. I'm able to connect to IRC via irssi, but I cannot load any web pages. When I gun 'ping google.com' I get 'unknown host'. Any ideas?
[00:08] <Nate____> wieshka: I'm getting Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.35-020635-generic. I'm having troubles installing drivers, ever since I updated the kernel. I can't install the ATI driver either. When I use the package manager or hardware drivers, I now get fglrx: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10. and fglrx-amdcccle: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
[00:08] <haywardgb> Verminator: what issues are you having? I'm having some myself...
[00:08] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: dns problem ?
[00:08] <divadgnol67> Verminator - what kind of issues
[00:08] <frank__> Oni: dont expect too much, either it works, or it doesnt, just accept it and spare yourself hours of hate, anger and agony
[00:08] <Nate____> Do you think I boned it by upgrading the kernel?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Do you have more than one hard drive? Are there any error messages?
[00:08] <SaintSapphire> erUSUL: How would I check that?
[00:08] <frank__> Oni: btw this is the very reason I use dell keyboards. They work.
[00:08] <mikeg3> I need help.  What's the easiest way to get printing going in an Ubuntu 10.04 VM on a MacBook Pro host with Snow Leopard?
[00:08] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: can you ping a num ip ? « ping <IP_ADDRESS> »
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: is a gogle server
[00:09] <Nate____> I also get fglrx(0): Hasn't established DRM connection failed to map FB memory, when I reboot now.
[00:09] <guestcable> no i just say GNU GRUB version 1.98....grub>
[00:09] <SaintSapphire> erUSUL: Huh, yes, I can.
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: no dns configured ....
[00:09] <SaintSapphire> What's the path to change DNS servers in ubuntu, then?
[00:09] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: how do you set up the connecton? Network Manager ?
[00:09] <guestcable> i type reboot and the pc reboots, but if i type exit the pc restarts
[00:10] <frank__> Oni: and if there's a mapping of a special key you don't like, don't press it, just ignore it. Continue enjoying your life, but if you temper to fsck with the above mentioned files be awared to have a spare keyboard ready
[00:10] <tensorpudding> SaintSapphire: by default you get your DNS servers from your DHCP
[00:10] <Kane_hart> can you do a memory test in a VPS?
[00:10] <mikeg3> !parallels
[00:10] <Jordan_U> guestcable: What happens if you run "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" from that grub shell?
[00:10] <frank__> Oni: you WILL crash it at least one time
[00:10] <FredFlinstone> hi, i need to get a video card, (onboard right now) what is ideal for ubuntu ? i know i want a nvidia chipset, but from there i am lost, too many choices, can anyone help? may be used for htpc, no games
[00:10] <Verminator> divadgnol67, haywardgb, monitor not detected and stuck at a lower rez, OO slow, locks up, and is jittery, empathy locks up and take 60-100 CPU use, full screen games take 100% cpu and lock up the USB ports, caps lock sometimes get inverted on KB,
[00:11] <guestcable> i will act as if it would run, but go back to grub>
[00:11] <guestcable> i am sort of scared to restart my pc
[00:11] <tensorpudding> FredFlinstone: The nvidia driver works for all nvidia chipsets, so it's simply a matter of price vs. performance
[00:11] <erUSUL> SaintSapphire: right click on the network manager icon. choose edit connections. go to the connection you use. choose edit and in there go to ipv4 settings
[00:11] <FredFlinstone> ok
[00:11] <Karen_m> for some reason, when I load up iptraf, it does not pull up my interfaces, however I can do ;  iptraf -d eth1 and it will ..   the only interface it sees is 'lo' for some reason
[00:11] <divadgnol67> Verminator > it is unlikely caused by any files in your home directory.
[00:11] <wieshka> grrrr - looks like i have serios boot problem for my freshly installed ubuntu desktop - alternative
[00:11] <JuJuBee> I am having issues with audio.  When I log in, I hear the login sounds, but once logged in sound doesn't seem to work (Amarok or web videos...)
[00:12] <tensorpudding> FredFlinstone: Well, it also has to work with your hardware.
[00:12] <wieshka> it is RAID 1 + LVM installation
[00:12] <divadgnol67> verminator > what video card do you have?
[00:12] <frank__> is there any way to use cairo dock with a dual-screen setup? Cairo-dock centers at the combined resolution of the 2 monitors which is crap
[00:12] <wieshka> and fsck returns error
[00:13] <Verminator> divadgnol67, nvidia 6600LE, 256MB, I am using the proprietray driver, current and recommended from ubuntu repos, just reinstalled this evening to test
[00:13] <wieshka> fsck /boot [415] terminated with status 8
[00:13] <haywardgb> loving ubuntu 10.04 apart from the minor headaches... not going back to Win7 is like trying to quit an addiction !
[00:13] <wieshka> wondering now how to recover ir
[00:13] <wieshka> ir
[00:13] <wieshka> it
[00:13] <Nate____> haywardgb: was getting your wireless installed and stable easy?
[00:14] <haywardgb> sure was nate..
[00:14] <Verminator> divadgnol67, driver according to nvidia control panel is 195.36.24
[00:14] <haywardgb> i do get weird loss of internet using wireless though....
[00:14] <Nate____> I'm having tons of trouble.
[00:14] <Nate____> Like it randomly disconnects?
[00:14] <divadgnol67> Verminator > back up your home directory to a flash drive and do a fresh install to rule out that it in fact something in home directory causing the problem
[00:14] <JuJuBee> Anyone good with audio issues willing to assist me?
[00:14] <Nate____> Mine did that, so I'm trying some different fixes. All that got me was a ton of errors and no working diver anymore.. haha
[00:14] <haywardgb> sometimes it just stops working, but then starts again.. not sure if that's the place im getting access from, or just a fluke.. i've noticed it in a few places...
[00:15] <haywardgb> Nate____: same issue as me then...
[00:15] <Nate____> Idk, mine would take forever to connect and just drop randomly.
[00:15] <divadgnol67> verminator > re-install without using your backed up home directory
[00:15] <haywardgb> can anyone shed light on this?
[00:15] <Nate____> haywardgb: it was on a network running WPA-personal with a passphrase
[00:15] <Verminator> divadgnol67, an inconvenient step, but probably worth a try, ty
[00:16] <Nate____> haywardgb: I dont' want to go back to windows 7, but if i can't figure this out.. idk. haha
[00:16] <divadgnol67> not really that difficult, but you are correct an extra step
[00:16] <guestcable> i downloaded ubuntu 3 times, and everytime there is a grub terminal screen when my pc boots, is there a way that i can fix the problem or should install another boot loader.
[00:16] <divadgnol67> Verminator > good luck
[00:16] <kad__> heys need help i just update my ubtuntu and reboot!!  now i can't log to graphic and in the logs when i type sudo get this: -bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file
[00:17] <haywardgb> Nate____: Lol, I feel that way too.. Ubuntu always seems like it's about to make the mark, then something really important messes it up for me....
[00:17] <Verminator> divadgnol67, not difficult, but time consumming, although, any good idea for syncing this new back w/ an old backup?
[00:17] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Please try what I requested.
[00:17] <haywardgb> Can anyone explain why wireless would take ages to connect, then suddenly keep dropping ...?
[00:17] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, this is my third attempt with this laptop. It's awesome, except for my wireless.. that's a big problem. It sucks that is probably the game breaker. lol
[00:18] <wieshka> hmmm - Ubuntu says: Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /boot
[00:18] <haywardgb> Nate____: for me first it was itunes .. then i came back at 10.04 and must say, it's pretty awesome, apart from the wireless issue (a biggy for me) and a few minor ones...
[00:18] <test34> Nate____, it is better to check for compatibility before you buy
[00:18] <guestcable> is there an irc chat room through windows , just i case if it happens again @ jordan_u
[00:18] <haywardgb> Nate____: what wireless card you using?
[00:19] <Verminator> guestcable, do you mean a chat client?
[00:19] <tensorpudding> haywardgb: it could be trouble with your wifi nic, or it could be trouble with the router/ap, or it could be poor signal strength, or it could be trouble with the upstream connection
[00:19] <guestcable> that too
[00:19] <Nate____> test34: I didn't purchase for linux. It was more a hey, lets give this a shot type thing.
[00:19] <Dulak> it's no different than any other OS, problems happen, things don't work, you have to massage stuff to get it all working.  With thousands and thousands of hardware combinations there is bound to be some issues no matter what OS you run.
[00:19] <ninjai> why is it that when i email HTML code with mutt it appears as HTML code and not an HTML page???
[00:19] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Yes, there are IRC clients for windows.
[00:19] <Verminator> guestcable, I believe pidgin runs on windows
[00:19] <haywardgb> tensorpudding: you forgot to add flux-capacitor ;)
[00:19] <Nate____> haywardgb: It's the BCM4322 broadcom, a/b/g/n
[00:20] <guestcable> it is just cable the room will not let me change nick
[00:20] <wieshka> ok by ignoring
[00:20] <drjo> if i install ubuntu from a minimal install and install the package ubuntu-desktop and add the without-recommends flag to apt, will that cause me trouble in the future?
[00:20] <Dulak> The part that makes linux stand out is that once you get things working, they tend to work for a very long time
[00:20] <wieshka> i got now logged in
[00:20] <divadgnol67> Verminator > here is a link as it easier this way  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[00:20] <zero-1> Hi everyone, I just moved from Arch linux to ubuntu
[00:20] <Jordan_U> ninjai: Because the mime type is wrong most likely. Why are you sending html email?
[00:20] <guestcable> will i be able to come back here?
[00:20] <Verminator> divadgnol67, tyvm
[00:20] <JuJuBee> Nate____:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713
[00:20] <JuJuBee> Maybe that will help
[00:20] <zero-1> I was developing a .NET client for evernote in monodevelop an it works great on Arch but in ubuntu, mono develop is complaining about not finding Gecko namespace
[00:21] <Jordan_U> guestcable: Yes, this is the channel #ubuntu on the server irc.freenode.net
[00:21] <zero-1> I've been researching on the internet and haven't been able to install Gecko-sharp on ubuntu, what can I do? any advise?
[00:21] <haywardgb> Nate____: I hope you get it sorted, one of us has to survive and make it through.. I'm thinking of buying a USB wireless stick that is listed on the compatability list... Just to make sure..
[00:21] <ninjai> Jordan_U: It's some in house stuff I'm working on that needs to be HTML formatted.  I receive HTML emails from other people and they display fine, but not when my web server emails it.  is the mime type wrong on my web server?
[00:22] <Nate____> JuJuBee: Thanks I will give it a shot. I upgraded my kernel though and I'm having problems installing my ATI driver and broadcom drivers. It errors out.
[00:22] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, it's worth it. Maybe I will get another one that I can slide in the laptop.
[00:22] <guestcable> here goes nothing!!!!!
[00:22] <drjo> im trying to find a way of installing the ubuntu desktop but in a more minimal way then default
[00:23] <Nate____> haywardgb: It just sucks I can't get it working. Others are doing it. I may need to rebuild 10.04 for a 3rd time.. haha
[00:23] <JuJuBee> Nate____:  ATI is evil... nVidia all the way
[00:23] <tensorpudding> zero-1: you checked packages.ubuntu.com to make sure that this software was not available on ubuntu?
[00:23] <JuJuBee> Great on windoze not linux
[00:23] <haywardgb> Nate____: you could try that link that was just posted..
[00:23] <wieshka2> hmmmm so i have succesfully loged in - but io have to prevent problems while bootup - so neither /boot partition found during bootup, neither manually mountpointed LVM partition
[00:23] <Nate____> JuJuBee: I agree, haha. I wish I had nvidia in this. It's one of those multi-touch HP laptops.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> ninjai: Do you mean that you have an SMTP server? A "web server" doesn't send email.
[00:23] <wieshka2> and by ignoring and skipping i can succesfully boot
[00:23] <Verminator> guestcable, check these out, I think this is what you are looking for
[00:23] <Verminator> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
 I did but Im not sure what is the package's name
[00:23] <Verminator> http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/platforms-windows.html
[00:23] <test34> Nate____, you built ubuntu? I dont think so.. maybe you mean the kernel?
[00:23] <FloodBot4> Verminator: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <onoko> FloodBot4: that url has been posted 4 times in the past 4 hours by FloodBot3, Katsumi32, and ubottu (last linked by FloodBot3 2 hours, 4 minutes ago).
[00:24] <Nate____> test34: By rebuild, I meant re-install. lol..
[00:24] <tensorpudding> zero-1: It doesn't appear to be in the repos, so you'll probably have to install it by hand
[00:25] <Nate____> haywardgb: I didn't see the link? I have tried about 5 different ones now. I think I boned it by updating the kernel.
[00:25] <Kane_hart> can Memtest or Memtest86 be ran in vm or has to be root of the xen server?
[00:25] <Verminator> can lubuntu use ubuntu one to sync files as ubuntu can?
 not that installing it by hand is a problem to me, but if I wish to distribute it it will be a problem for whomever I give it to, do I have another option?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Kane_hart: I would run it on the actual hardware.
[00:25] <test34> Nate____, you dont need to reinstall.. maybe you need to build a kernel module or rebuild the kernel itself
[00:25] <haywardgb> Nate____: oh heck, a re-install then ;)
[00:26] <Kane_hart> Jordan_U thanks >.< gotta find out how lol
[00:26] <haywardgb> Nate____: Are you in London?
[00:26] <erUSUL> Kane_hart: it has to be the only thing running on the machine.... it is a "kernel"
[00:26] <test34> Nate____, or reinstall the default kernel if it used to work
[00:26] <Random832> Kane_hart: you have to run it on the physical hardware or it is useless
[00:26] <ninjai> Jordan_U Sorry, yes it's a web server with SMTP (sendmail with mutt) installed...
[00:26] <Nate____> haywardgb: Nah, I'm on a web IRC client. I dont' have one installed at the moment.
[00:27] <test34> Nate____, or a previous version if you are using the default (you should be able to choose a previous version at boot)
[00:27] <Kane_hart> ok thanks
[00:27] <Nate____> test34: Do you know how I can get back to the kernel that installs with 10.04? I'm still relatively new to Linux.
[00:27] <haywardgb> Nate____: If you get it working, add me as a buddy and let me know how it goes...
[00:27] <drjo> could someone maybe point me to some online resources or something ?
[00:28] <FalsAlarm> which file contains the settings for enabling/disabling log in to my server via ssh?
[00:28] <tensorpudding> zero-1: you don't have to include gecko-sharp with you distributing it
[00:28] <Nate____> test34: I ran this command to update it. I can show you. I don't have any options to choose when I startup.
[00:28] <FalsAlarm> with a username/pass
[00:28] <h00k> !guidelines > monokrome Please review this regarding bots
[00:28] <test34> Nate____, which command?
[00:28] <Nate____> haywardgb: yea, if i figure it out, i will let you know. what do you want me to add you on? Can you do that on IRC? I haven't done that before on here.
[00:28] <Verminator> drjo, resources for what?
[00:28] <Nate____> test34: I will have to look it up in my history.
 I know, but for some newcomer to linux installing it might be painful if they have to install anything by hand
[00:29] <zero-1> and not through apt
[00:29] <haywardgb> Nate____: I've added you as a buddy on Pidgin..  It's like erm... Empathy IM Client..
[00:30] <cable_summers> how do remove a name from the boot select screen; i have too many ubuntu's
[00:30] <haywardgb> Nate: yeah, exactly what you just said.
[00:30] <Verminator> Nate____, pidgion woprks w/ multiple servers, protocals
[00:31] <tensorpudding> zero-1: According to launchpad, there used to be a gecko-sharp2 package, but it has mostly disappeared
[00:31] <Jesdisciple> big problems with spam?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> cable_summers: Remove old kernels via apt / Ubuntu Software Center
[00:31] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, I have used pidgen. How did you add me though? Nate___ isn't my username.
[00:31] <drjo> Verminator: so the information i seek is regarding ubuntu-desktop and future upgrades etc
[00:31] <cable_summers> ?
[00:31] <cable_summers> how ?
[00:31] <haywardgb> Nate: this Pidgin app rocks.. I just right clicked on your name here in this window and it gave me the option to add you.. I think it just adds your IRC Alias..
[00:32] <peepz> guys..
[00:32] <Verminator> drjo, sorry, that is something i have no idea about, sorry
[00:32] <Nate____> haywardgb: Oh, ok cool. Well I'm on a web client. This name is going to go away.
[00:32] <peepz> when I hit "arrow-up" it does not give me the last typed line instead it gives me wierd chars...why
[00:32] <tensorpudding> zero-1: what exactly is gecko sharp used for?
[00:32] <Verminator> peepz, try cntr+up
[00:32] <Nate____> test34: I can't find it atm. Would it help if you know my kernel version?
[00:33] <Nate____> test34: if i look some more, i may be able to find it.
[00:33] <waaade> can anyone tell me what an "=" means when using ls -F?
[00:33] <haywardgb> Nate: if you want to pm me your msn or whatever.. if you like, otherwise don't worry..
[00:33] <drjo> Verminator: thanks anyways, going to install and upgrade to 10.10 and try to see if it hoses the system
[00:33] <Nate____> haywardgb: Yea, I will do that. Idk how to pm on this web client though. Sec.
[00:34] <Verminator> drjo, I hope it goes well for you
 creating a gecko browser within a .NET mono app
[00:34] <Dulak> Nate____: /msg name messagehere
[00:34] <Nate____> dulak: thanks
[00:34] <FalsAlarm> in my /etc/ssh/ssh_config, which lines to I have to change to get l/p login working with ssh?
[00:34] <FalsAlarm> i uncomment and set this one, PasswordAuthentication yes
[00:35] <FalsAlarm> any others?
[00:35] <drjo> Verminator: me too :)
[00:35] <brandon420> http://www.petitiononline.com/irctrout/petition.html
[00:35] <Dulak> FalsAlarm: ssh_config is for outgoing ssh, sshd_config is for incoming ssh
[00:35] <tensorpudding> zero-1: there seems to be a Mono.Mozilla namespace that uses gluezilla to do that
[00:35] <FalsAlarm> ahh, woops
[00:36] <tensorpudding> zero-1: oh wait, that uses Windows Forms
[00:36] <wieshka> Need some advanced help on this fsck error: http://wieshka.pastebin.com/bzDqWqgj
[00:36] <zero-1> :(
[00:38] <wieshka> any ideas ?
[00:38] <tensorpudding> zero-1: maybe ask in #mono
[00:38] <waaade> can anyone tell me what an "=" means when using ls -F?
[00:38] <tensorpudding> waaade: i believe those are sockets
[00:38] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you just "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo fsck /dev/sda1" ?
[00:38] <waaade> tensorpudding, thanks!
[00:39] <nathan_> tets
[00:39] <wieshka> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1 : not mounted
[00:39] <Dulak> wieshka: boot recovery mode and run 'fsck /dev/sda1'
[00:39] <wieshka> or you mean while boot recovery ?
[00:39] <wieshka> ok ono momento :)
[00:40] <anair_84> I just downloaded the info file and want to install it any one know how that goes
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Dulak: wieshka: There should be no need to boot into recovery mode.
[00:40] <wieshka> it says it is unmounted in normal mode
[00:40] <Dulak> Jordan_U: you don't fsck a read-write mounted partition, recovery mode mounts read-only
[00:41] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fsck -n /dev/sda1"?
[00:41] <wieshka> Dulak: Jordan_U even in recovery mode umount says it is not mounted
[00:41] <wieshka> but fsck says resource is busy
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Dulak: It's a separate /boot/partition, it can be unmounted without being in recovery mode.
[00:41] <wieshka> booting in nromal mode for pastebin
[00:41] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i cant even unmount it from recovery mode ?
[00:42] <wieshka> dunno
[00:42] <jocrawfo> someone here must know this answer..... Is there a way to connect an external display to my macbook pro, close the lid and have the external display become the primary display?  This is the result you get when running Windows/Mac so I am sure there is a way to do this in Ubuntu I am just not sure how.  The closest I got was my laptop screen being on while the lid was closed but that will just burnout the lcd when the extern
[00:42] <jocrawfo> al is being used.  I also have to mirror displays to use that method.
[00:42] <Jordan_U> wieshka: It may be that it is busy not because it is mounted but because fsck is being run on it in the background.
[00:42] <jocrawfo> i also was able to manually disable my laptop display using the Nvidia tool but that's a pain to do manually all the time
[00:43] <wieshka> the setup is -> seperated 512 mb /boot partition + RAID 1 + LVM (lv for /, swap and data)
[00:43] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Is there any output from "sudo pgrep fsck" ?
[00:43] <wieshka> Jordan_U: one moment - booting normal mode
[00:44] <wieshka> Jordan_U: no output in normal mode
[00:45] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you boot from a LiveCD?
[00:45] <wieshka> Jordan_U: df -h returns that boot is mounted as /dev/md0p1
[00:45] <wieshka> what is that ?
[00:46] <FalsAlarm> Dulak, I made the change and now ssh asks me to login
[00:46] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i have to rebuild flash then with unetbootin - it will take a while
[00:46] <FalsAlarm> but no matter what i enter for the password, it says Access denied
[00:47] <azlon> i am trying to grow my mdadm raid but every time i try to --add my new drive it says: mdadm: /dev/md0 does not appear to be an md device
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That means that it's the first partition of your partitioned raid volume, which is certainly an odd configuration.
[00:47] <wieshka> what abut if i go in degraded mode
[00:47] <jocrawfo> anyone have any idea?
[00:47] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i made /boot as primary partition at begging of HDD
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Are you sure that /dev/sda1 isn't a raid member?
[00:47] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[00:48] <wieshka> sure - one moment
[00:48] <wieshka> Jordan_U: http://wieshka.pastebin.com/1FFnri7S
[00:48] <azlon> Jordan_U: how can i force stop my mdadm raid? when i do --stop it says: mdadm: fail to stop array /dev/md0: Device or resource busy
[00:49] <wieshka> Jordan_U, dunno
[00:50] <wieshka> RAID has one partition only - and it is LVM
[00:50] <wieshka> but blkid returns some other partition - p1
[00:50] <Jordan_U> wieshka: No, it has two partitions according to blkid.
[00:50] <wieshka> during the setup i made only one
[00:51] <wieshka> ok - can i just delete it ?
[00:51] <Eleph> hello
[00:51] <Eleph> is there a major difference between netbook install of ubuntu 10.04 and desktop?
[00:51] <wieshka> i mean - any poibilities to recover with out reinstall ?
[00:51] <Eleph> can I install desktop on a netbook?
[00:51] <geoffmcc> Eleph: yes u can, i believe netbook version just make battery consumption less
[00:51] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Can you try fsck from a liveCD?
[00:52] <Eleph> ahh
[00:52] <wieshka> it will take a while, becouse i have no cd-rom, and at first i have to download iso
[00:52] <wieshka> and build flash drive
[00:52] <Jordan_U> geoffmcc: Eleph: Ubuntu netbook remix has an interface more suited to a small screen, but yes Ubuntu Desktop should work fine.
[00:53] <Eleph> cool
[00:53] <Eleph> thanks
[00:53] <wieshka> Jordan_U: what about just recoverying from that eror fro mrecovery mode or normal mode ?
[00:53] <Manfred-> Eleph: you'll miss some lid-close options
[00:54] <Jordan_U> wieshka: I'm not sure why the device is busy in the first place unfortunately.
[00:54] <wieshka> Jordan_U: maybe one more time alternative install will be faster then figuring out ?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That's likely, and your setup is a bit odd right now anyway.
[00:56] <esteban> hello, need help with mesa
[00:57] <wieshka> so - then i am going to make: one /boot partition of 512 mb, on each disk (only one as mountpoint), and second partition - whole disk - as RAID 1 array .... after that i set up LVM on device md0, so there i make /, /data & swap, Jordan_U this should work definetly by default, i am wrong ?
[00:57] <sovern> Does ubuntu not install in vmw workstation?
[00:57] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Why make a /boot/ partition on both disks?
[00:58] <Dulak> so the partitions are the same for a mirror
[00:58] <wieshka> aha
[00:58] <wieshka> and mirror disk can be restored as master disk
[00:58] <hughessd> how do I make a daemon that respawns if it's killed?
[00:59] <sovern> hughessd: have monit check for it, and restart it on failure
[00:59] <wieshka> monitor it whis some while script
[00:59] <hughessd> just put the compiled file in /etc/init.d/ and update-rc.d?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> wieshka: If you want /boot/ mirrored then you might as well use RAID on it.
[00:59] <wieshka> Jordan_U: will GRUB 2 understud this partition layout ?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes.
[01:00] <sovern> how do i deal w/ ubuntu 10.04 LTS hanging at 43% during disk scan at initial install boot in vmwks 6.5
[01:00] <Dulak> no you don't mirror /boot, but you do put it on both disks so if one drive fails you can boot the other drive
[01:00] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Make sure you don't partition the RAID device though.
[01:00] <wieshka> Jordan_U: - so two partitions on each disk, one small as boot one for LVM should work fine ?
[01:00] <hughessd> sovern: is monit the ubuntu "standard" method for creating daemons?
[01:01] <sovern> hughessd: ...no... its a monitoring engine
[01:01] <Manfred-> hello here, i'm stuck on tty when booting my other computer (desktop) with ubuntu, how could i get graphic ?
[01:01] <waaade> can someone help me with xmlrpc with rtorrent?  I'm trying to install wtorrent and having some trouble...
[01:01] <wieshka> and with LVM i can make data partitions and swap as i want ?
[01:01] <peepz> Verminator: u mean control? i tried that...same.
[01:01] <peepz> Unzip the zip file into ~/.vim (Unix)
[01:01] <peepz> what does that mean
[01:01] <peepz> .vim is not a folder !
[01:01] <Oni> who was it that said theyd write me a mail alias?
[01:01] <jakegub> !clear
[01:01] <Oni> ok will do thanks
[01:01] <hughessd> do programs that start at runtime (runlevel 2-5) only run once, or do they respawn when killed?
[01:02] <Oni> oops wrong windoqw
[01:02] <peepz> guys,,, what does .vim mean ??
[01:02] <Dulak> hughessd: nothing respawns when killed unless you are monitoring for it externally
[01:02] <Oni> vim is a editor
[01:02] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes, to be more complete you probably want each disk to have two partitions which are each raid members. The first partitions of each disk would be make up /dev/md0 (*NOT* /dev/md0p1, the raid device should not be partitioned). ...
[01:02] <peepz> i know it is.. I use it all the time
[01:02] <peepz> Oni: : http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started_with_Vim
[01:03] <peepz> it says unzip the files to ~/.vim
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: then you should have a ~/.vim folder
[01:03] <peepz> what does that mean?
[01:03] <Oni> lol oh ok
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: ~ means home dir
[01:03] <peepz> yes..
[01:03] <peepz> why would I have a folder called .vim in my home dir?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> wieshka: /dev/md0 would contain an ext4 filesystem.
[01:03] <jakegub> I still need help with my Ubuntu dual boot install.  I have Win7 on a 250gb drive. I have 50gb of the drive as "unallocated space".  During the ubuntu install, my Win7 is not recognized including any of the partitions
[01:03] <peepz> and why a dot ?
[01:03] <Dulak> peepz: so ~/.vim means /home/user/.vim
[01:03] <waaade> peepz, it hides it when you do ls
[01:03] <wieshka> Jordan_U: so i am making two partitions - one pair as md0 for boot, second pair as md1 for LVM
[01:03] <peepz> ohh
[01:03] <gstarx90> jakegub, just drag it
[01:03] <peepz> ok
[01:04] <Dulak> peepz: thats where vim keeps configs
[01:04] <waaade> peepz, just makes it hidden
[01:04] <gstarx90> jakegub, actually nevermind
[01:04] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Yes, and you would make volumes for your root and for swap on top of LVM.
[01:04] <jakegub> gstarx90: yeah, normally ubuntu can read the MBR or some boot sector and recognizes that there are partitions and one of them is Windows.  That doesn't happen during the install now
[01:04] <wieshka> Jordan_U: ofcorse
[01:05] <waaade> has anyone ever set up wtorrent with rtorrent before?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> jakegub: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[01:05] <hughessd> Dulak: not even if you use "inittab"?
[01:06] <jakegub> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[01:06] <Dulak> hughessd: ubuntu uses upstart, which is a form of external monitoring
[01:06] <hughessd> ah ok, well, i think you've answered my questions anyway. thanks for your time.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Could you go into the manual partitioning option of the installer and post a screenshot?
[01:07] <saml> hey, how can I diagnose?  computer just freezes.. and i have to unplug the power.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | jakegub
[01:07] <saml> what log files should i look at?
[01:07] <wieshka> Jordan_U: md1 (for data) partitions should me logical or primary ?
[01:07] <sovern> saml: /var/log/messages
[01:08] <wieshka> so both partitions for /boot RAID {md0} i made as primary at begining
[01:08] <critical> is there any channel about backtrack 4?
[01:08] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Doesn't matter much, but I'd make them primary.
[01:08] <saml> should I grep for something?
[01:08] <sovern> saml: look at the last line
[01:08] <sovern> :)
[01:08] <saml> or is there a way to slow down harddisk io?
[01:08] <valium> hi all - im having an issue with ssh - everytime i put in a wrong password the time it takes to authenticate gets longer and longer and longer (even over multiple sessions) where do i reset the count?
[01:08] <Dulak> Don't mirror /boot, it's retarded, and you will regret it later
[01:09] <wieshka> Jordan_U: you know - when you are resintalling - you are starting to ask about everything :)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Dulak: Why do you say that?
[01:09] <peepz> thanks!
[01:09] <peepz> how do I use locate to find hidden files?
[01:09] <saml> i think my h ardware dies.. even when i boot on windows xp, same thing happens.. it freezes
[01:10] <Dulak> Because if /boot gets hosed, you won't be able to boot either disk, had it happen to many clients, it's not a good practice
[01:10] <pksadiq> Check memory test, may be your RAM  has some errors
[01:10] <Dulak> Manually copy /boot, do not mirror it
[01:10] <saml> can i limit bus bandwidth?
[01:10] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/114440
[01:10] <peepz> how do I use cp and also cp hidden files?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Dulak: How does mirroring it increase the chance of it being "hosed"?
[01:11] <saml> cp -r  hiddenfile  newfile
[01:11] <peepz> i thought r was for recursive
[01:11] <peepz> its it capital R?
[01:12] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[01:12] <saml> peepz, cp oldfile newfile
[01:12] <Dulak> Jordan_U: just keep giving bad advice, yer doing great
[01:12] <peepz> its not a file
[01:12] <peepz> its the content of the while directory including hidden files.
[01:12] <peepz> how do I copy the entire content of the current directory I am in to another folder including HIDDEN files.
[01:12] <bastid_raZor> Dulak: wow, you REALLY don't know how much Jordan_U knows.. do you?
[01:12] <wasnik> hi
[01:13] <bastid_raZor> Dulak: also, 'yer' is not a word. please attempt to use actual english.
[01:13] <saml> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AIGP] enabled at IRQ 21
[01:13] <wasnik> I am havin problem installin ubuntu from live as well as normal installaton. I get error cannot open /dev/sda
[01:13] <wieshka> Dulak: i had also problems with mirrored boot
[01:13] <wieshka> so thats why i asked about GRUB 2
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik,  so you are using both live cd and alternate cd?
[01:14] <wieshka> what is best partition type for boot - isnt ext2 ?
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik,   did you check the cd for erriors
[01:14] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:14] <wasnik> coz_: yes
[01:14] <peepz> guys please
[01:14] <Dulak> bastid_raZor: I know that having run linux since 1993, I have seen mirrored /boot situations result in unbootable disks more times than I can count, it's a bad practice, and if he knew as much as you think he wouldn't be recommending it
[01:14] <wasnik> coz_: the reason i am reinstallin is my previous installation is not booting now
[01:14] <coz_> wasnik, understood
[01:14] <peepz> where do I find the vimconfig file?
[01:15] <coz_> wasnik,  so you check the cd for errors on both       live and alternate cd... and they are error free ...yes?
[01:15] <histo> peepz: in etc
[01:15] <bastid_raZor> peepz: ~/.vim/.vimrc
[01:15] <histo> peepz: nvm yeah in home
[01:15] <critical> I think,you can use some command like a sudofind
[01:15] <wasnik> coz_: yes I did that, also checked the memory and it is also fine
[01:15] <wieshka> Dulak: , bastid_raZor  Jordan_U then what to do with /boot ? :D
[01:15] <wieshka> mirror it or just copy ? :D
[01:15] <peepz> where???
[01:16] <IdleOne> Dulak: In that case offer a better solution and drop the attitude.
[01:16] <Dulak> Don't mirror it, copy it manually
[01:16] <coz_> wasnik,  and you say current install is not booting... did you check if the hard drive is actually working ?
[01:16] <histo> peepz: there is /etc/vim/vimrc for system wide or you need to put it in your home and customize.
[01:16] <Dulak> IdleOne: I did, multiple times
[01:16] <critical> in terminal
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> peepz: ~/ is a shortcut for /home/yourusername/
[01:16] <Galeo> ilovefairuz so, thanks, but it seems it's just my usb which has a problem. I did the process quite often on many computers, but never on IBM thinkcentre nor with that USB stick. So, I'll try to fix that later. Thx for all.
[01:16] <wasnik> coz_: did a test of it on my bios and it passed the test
[01:16] <IdleOne> Dulak: ok, thank you. now drop the attitude please.
[01:16] <Dulak> IdleOne: hah!
[01:16] <peepz> k thanks
[01:17] <coz_> wasnik,  what concerns  me is that your current install is not booting and the live and alternate cd's are not seeing the hard drive
[01:17] <coz_> wasnik,  this is suspicious  and i would be concerned about the hard drive integrity at this point
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: so what do  u suggest should be done, and how did my bios detect and pass the hard disc as functionin propely
[01:18] <coz_> wasnik,  do you have an   unused or extra drive to test this
[01:18] <dublisk> Hi, I can't get my hdtv to work hooked up to ubuntu. It is hooked up via DVI->HDMI cable. The ubuntu splash screen came up but that was it
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: no
[01:18] <phuzion> Is there a fix for the new 0day exploit out yet?
[01:18] <coz_> wasnik,  mm  and ubuntu is the only operating system on the drive?
[01:18] <MrUnagi> how would one ping multiple computers behind a nat
[01:18] <Oni> anyone in here have any experience with keytouch?
[01:18] <wasnik> coz_: yes ubuntu is the only one. also why should live cd installation have anything to do with my hard disc
[01:19] <coz_> wasnik,  when you boot into the live cd... did you hit enter  when the small keyboard image at the bottom of the screen comes on... which I guess you did since you tested cd... and it still wont boot onto the live cd?/
[01:20] <wasnik> coz_: yes i did that and it still didnt boot
[01:20] <coz_> wasnik, out of curiosity...have you been "inside" the case recently?
[01:22] <coz_> wasnik,   I would open the case..make sure all cables are securely attached... including hard drive and cdrom... then reboot the system with live cd... while in there check to see if any  of the capacitors have blown... because at this point ,,,, I personally would be checking hardware components to be sure they are attached and workding
[01:22] <mikeg3> I need help.  What's the easiest way to get printing going in an Ubuntu 10.04 VM on a MacBook Pro host with Snow Leopard?
[01:22] <dadush777> hello
[01:22] <dadush777> Anyone here plays LOTRO with Ubuntu ?
[01:22] <craigbass1976> Let me know if this is offtopic or not...  Anyone familiar with maatkit?  I can't for the life of me get dry run to work.  mysql tables sync fine, but I'd like to see what happened as it happens
[01:23] <dadush777> I'm using PyLOTRO but it gets stuck in "Checking Account Details..." anyone knows the problem ?
[01:23] <coz_> wasnik,  unless this is a lapttop that is
[01:23] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: that's probably highly dependent on what virtualization software you use
[01:23] <wasnik> coz_: I havent been inside the case, but what i am curious about is how come the bios is detecin the hardisk also why should hard disk erro come up on live boot. yes its a laptop
[01:23] <mikeg3> i am using the new parallels 6 for mac
[01:24] <Jordan_U> MrUnagi: In most cases initiating a ping from the "outside" to a host with NAT is impossible, let alone broadcasting it to all hosts.
[01:24] <coz_> wasnik,  i agree about the bios ... however.. it is clear that not only  is the current install not booting but neither will live cd which is not dependent on hard drive... so something is off kilter here
[01:24] <MrUnagi> ill just telnet
[01:24] <MrUnagi> ty tho
[01:24] <dadush777> anyone here plays LOTRO ?
[01:24] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:24] <st> dadush777, wine is that way ----------------->
[01:25] <wasnik> so why is the live cd givin an error cannot oopen /dec/sda it meanlive cd is workin with the harddrive and is dependin on hard drive
[01:25] <fcuk112> how do i browse network shares using vifm?
[01:25] <dadush777> what is the channel of Wine ?
[01:25] <mikeg3> it keeps wanting to authenticate my Photosmart printer using hp jetdirect, but I can't get past authentication.
[01:25] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: I don't know OSX's printer handling, but you can probably share it over the LAN, which would be the easiest way
[01:25] <mikeg3> Maybe using Bonjour?
[01:25] <st> dadush777, there is forum of wine and appdb comments too
[01:26] <Flamesman> Please, someone get me a massrename bash script
[01:26] <st> which Ubuntu file manager understands gvfs?
[01:26] <Flamesman> to lowercase all .hqr files
[01:26] <mikeg3> does ubuntu support any type of bonjour printing?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Flamesman: The "rename" command will allow you to do that.
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> dadush777: #winehq
[01:26] <tensorpudding> mikeg3: I don't think so, but it's possible
[01:27] <Flamesman> I need to massrename
[01:27] <Flamesman> they are like 20 ~ 50 files
[01:27] <coz_> mikeg3,  check here or google  ubuntu bonjour printing   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156675
[01:27] <wieshka> Flamesman: massrename can be easily done with simple bash scripts
[01:28] <Flamesman> I dunno bash scripts yet
[01:28] <Flamesman> :/
[01:28] <KDC1956> will the 10.10 have better wireless on it 10.04.1 sure don't work for wireless on my setup
[01:28] <wieshka> Flamesman: also linux has tool mmv :)
[01:28] <Flamesman> k
[01:29] <Flamesman> nvrmd
[01:29] <Flamesman> got it
[01:29] <Flamesman> thx
[01:31] <jakegub> Jordan_U: did my pastebin answer any questions for you?  http://pastebin.com/rXS7MSMV
[01:32] <st> which Ubuntu file manager understands gvfs?
[01:32] <wieshka> Dulak: .... after install i need to dd /boot to empty boot partition and that all ?
[01:32] <peepz> linux is soo annoying..
[01:32] <peepz> everything is a mission
[01:33] <Jordan_U> wieshka: As far as I can see mirroring /boot/ will mean that it's more likely that you will be able to boot without any manual intervention in the case that one of the drives fails. Since it's making /boot/ more "complex" with an additional layer that must be dealt with recovering manually if things do fail in a way that prevents boot entirely may be more difficult, but in that case I would think you would be looking at restoring from backup anyway. I won't
[01:33] <Dulak> wieshka: install grub to the mbr as well if that's how you have it set on the master drive as well
[01:33] <hiexpo> hello coz_
[01:33] <coz_> hiexpo,  hey hello
[01:33] <coz_> peepz,  everything is in your control
[01:34] <at05gt> stupid question, are there any emulators for ubuntu?
[01:34] <coz_> st those are generally handled by  FUSE
[01:34] <tensorpudding> emulators of what?
[01:34] <aphex> what kind of emulator?
[01:34] <at05gt> game boy advanced and DS
[01:34] <sjm> at05gt, wine?
[01:34] <peepz> getting this when I run ant: com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath.
[01:34] <coz_> st http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[01:35] <wieshka> Jordan_U: anyway - if one of my disks fails - it drops me in degraded mode, where can i restore
[01:35] <tommd> Could someone give me the default password for Ubuntu Maverick Alpha 1?  Or do I have to replace /etc/shadow
[01:35] <tommd> ?
[01:35] <at05gt> would wine allow me to run the emus i have for windows?
[01:35] <sjm> at05gt, don't know you might ask in #wine
[01:35] <aphex> theres both in  repos i think
[01:36] <wieshka> if i have after install prepared second disk for that
[01:36] <jrib> tommd: there's no default password on any ubuntu version.  The password for your user is the password you set during install
[01:36] <WXZ> does flash suck on ubuntu
[01:37] <WXZ> or is it just my hardware?
[01:37] <wieshka> !10.10 | tommd
[01:37] <WXZ> or settings
[01:37] <tommd> jrib: well 10.10 Alpha UNR for ARM  doesn't have an "install" procedure beyond copying to the SD
[01:37] <tommd> ubottu: Thanks
[01:37] <tommd> and wieshka, thanks
[01:37] <at05gt> hmmm appears the emu i have runs on linux natively
[01:37] <rewire> WXZ: did you install the official adobe flash runtime?
[01:37] <esteban> hello, iam having problems to uninstall a wrong source "Mesa Stand/alone"
[01:37] <WXZ> yes
[01:38] <esteban> http://pastebin.com/PPgaNaDv
[01:38] <WXZ> my cpu usage jumps from about 15% to 80% when I open a youtube video
[01:38] <rewire> WXZ: and what seems to be the problem, slow play back on videos etc?
[01:38] <esteban> i can compile Mesa DRI :(
[01:38] <WXZ> freezing actually rewire
[01:38] <esteban> I spent 4 days :(
[01:38] <WXZ> poor/no rendering at all
[01:38] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Either way you should be sure that grub is installed to the mbr of both drives, and if you don't go with mirroring you should be sure that when installing grub to the drive that will have a /boot that won't be mounted as /boot to use the --root-directory option of grub-install to be sure that grub doesn't look for its modules on the other drive (it's possible to have the mbr + embedded area portion of grub on a different disk than the /boot/ partit
[01:38] <rewire> WXZ: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:38] <esteban> poor rendering
[01:39] <WXZ> meerkat
[01:39] <esteban> 10 04
[01:39] <esteban> more info http://pastebin.com/PPgaNaDv
[01:39] <WXZ> should I downgrade to lynx?
[01:39] <watisdis> My usb transfers always fail...  I blamed it on upgrading to lucid lynx but in Windows the same problem is happening
[01:40] <Jordan_U> WXZ: #ubuntu+1 for 10.10 support.
[01:40] <watisdis> it's taking 10 minutes to transfer a 700mb file
[01:40] <tensorpudding> 10.10 isn't stable yet, it's a moving target, and nasty bugs are probably possible
[01:41] <watisdis> down from 5.9mb/sec to 839.6kb/sec.. looks like it's failing? :(
[01:41] <WXZ> Jordan_U: as far as I can remember, flash has sucked on ubuntu
[01:41] <Jordan_U> jakegub: I can't tell why Ubuntu's installer isn't detecting the partitions but the kernel obviously is. Can you try installing "gdisk" and pastebin the output of "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" ?
[01:41] <fedora_newb> yay...got my laptop monitor to show correctly :P
[01:41] <WXZ> so it's not a version-specific problem
[01:42] <edbian> I'm trying to run sudo grub-install from a live USB on my netbook.  I get this error: "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)"  When I run sudo grub-install.  /dev is mounted.  What is going wrong?
[01:42] <hiexpo> my flash works snazzy in ubuntu
[01:42] <mas> hola donde hay un chat en español??
[01:42] <rewire> WXZ: seems to be great for me :D
[01:42] <Jordan_U> !es | mas
[01:42] <hiexpo> !es
[01:42] <watisdis> if I bought a usb card to put in my expansion slots, would that be fail as well?
[01:42] <rewire> WXZ: did it work ok on previous versions?
[01:42] <WXZ> not great rewire
[01:43] <rewire> WXZ: have you tryed installing alternative flash runtimes?
[01:43] <WXZ> how can I test if it's my hardware or ubuntu?
[01:43] <WXZ> there are alternative flash runtimes?
[01:43] <WXZ> any that are specifically designed for ubuntu or linux?
[01:44] <mas> hello
[01:44] <rewire> WXZ: yeah if you search for "Flash" in the ubuntu software center, there is an alternative open-source flash runtime for those hardcore "open source only" users.
[01:44] <peepz> what does this mean:
[01:44] <peepz> Add ~/.cljr/bin/ to your path (or copy the platform appropriate cljr script to your path).
[01:44] <mas> which dist is better, ubuntu or Arch Linux??
[01:44] <Quantum_Ion> Linux is not annoying it just takes a while to learn it
[01:44] <Quantum_Ion> Trial and Error type scenario's
[01:44] <WXZ> see, in my vm
[01:44] <sikilpaake> is /tmp the place that gets cleaned out everytime you reboot?
[01:44] <WXZ> windows vm, it runs more smoothly
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: it means there is a program in ~/.cljr/bin that it wants to run, but cannot
[01:45] <WXZ> and it's a vm :/
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: because that path is not in the PATH variable
[01:45] <hiexpo> !best \ mas`
[01:45] <peepz> so what do I do????
[01:45] <WXZ> so I'm pretty sure that narrows it down to ubuntu being at fault
[01:45] <tensorpudding> peepz: so the options are to either cp/ln the binaries in that folder to someplace in PATH, or add that path to PATH in your shell's configuration
[01:45] <st> which ubuntu file manager can mount disks automatically and browse network>?
[01:46] <rewire> its probably not so much of ubuntu's fault as it is adobe's for not optimising flash for *NIX systems
[01:46] <peepz> where is path
[01:46] <WXZ> well yeah rewire
[01:46] <tensorpudding> peepz: PATH is an environment variable that tells the shell where to look for binary files
[01:46] <peepz> ok thanks
[01:46] <WXZ> anyway, the point being it's *not* my hardware
[01:47] <esteban> how can i solve this problem with Mesa installation? http://pastebin.com/pj0SqbkP
[01:47] <wieshka> rewire: adobe is now working on NIX very actively
[01:47] <mmoebius> st: Probably there is nothing. If you need that, go to KDE and conqueror. then you have to do with Kubuntu
[01:47] <wieshka> last updates already supports GPU accelaration for NVIDA ION & some other chipsets
[01:47] <elysium> can anyone help me with my internet connection on my fresh ubuntu install?
[01:48] <wieshka> !ask | elysium
[01:48] <tensorpudding> peepz: if you want to try the latter option you have to add a line like 'export PATH=$PATH:/home/<your username>/.cljr/bin'
[01:48] <tensorpudding> peepz: to your shell configuration file, probably at ~/.bashrc
[01:48] <rewire> WXZ: you can try here http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects#flash_players for alternative runtimes, they may not support everything flash offers (AS3 and ver10 support) but may improve you experience with stuff like youtube
[01:48] <WXZ> oh btw
[01:48] <wieshka> |details | elysium
[01:48] <WXZ> what's the karmic koala repository url?
[01:48] <hiexpo> elysium, be more specific
[01:48] <st> i don't need that bloated gnome/kde shit, i need a slim manager which can do elementary actions like this, wtf?
[01:48] <mmoebius> st: Disks should be auto-mounted under any *ubunu version. Unles you think "diskette" which ahs no mechanism for insertion/removal detection :-(
[01:48] <wieshka> !details | elysium
[01:49] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/jShgWZBD
[01:49] <maco> !language | st
[01:49] <elysium> ok, details coming
[01:49] <mmoebius> st: If you need it slim, do it by hand. mount /dev/drive /media/drive isn't too much, ist it ?
[01:49] <mas> how i can install coverflow in nautilus in ubuntu 10.04 (clutterflow)???
[01:49] <maco> st: automounting of removable drives is a function of the desktop environment
[01:49] <Sylphid|netbook> mas, im not sure that you will get an unbiased response from here but ubuntu and arch are different beasts and "better" depends on what you are looking for
[01:50] <elijah> I just mounted an external HFS+ filesystem and cannot put any new folders or files on it. I have the HFS tools and when I use Gparted>File System Support, HFS+ has green for everything except grow and label. When I go to permissions for the mounted filesystem it says user:501 group: dialout - Any ideas?
[01:50] <hiexpo> !best
[01:50] <mmoebius> st: All the automounting has a big drawback: Unm,ounting is not really predictable. And in general, you will not want to removee physical media that are in use even if they are beeing read only
[01:50] <elysium> I am running Ubuntu 9.10 on a dell inspiron 531s. After the fresh install, neither the ethernet nor the wireless works
[01:50] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Ok, that's likely the problem. The Ubuntu installer is probably reading the GUID partition table, and the kernel is reading the msdos partition table (or visa versa).
[01:51] <st> who populates /media dir?
[01:51] <rewire> mas: http://www.ubunter.com/apps/blog/show/2915749-how-to-install-clutterflow-on-ubuntu
[01:51] <hiexpo> elysium, ok thats a start no internet no we need what wifi card what eth card and version of each to determine the problem
[01:51] <mmoebius> elijah: Do you have a line in /etc/fstab for that HFS files system ?
[01:51] <wieshka> looks like Ubuntu 10.04 alt installator has bug - by selecting video editing tools software install fails
[01:52] <fedora_newb> anytime i try to open an .exe with wine, i keep getting "the file *** is not marked as executable. If this was a downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.
[01:52] <hiexpo> ^now
[01:52] <fedora_newb> how do i fix this?
[01:52] <elijah> mmoebius: Not yet, do I need one?
[01:52] <mmoebius> st: I think (but not 100% sure) it's udisks
[01:52] <mmoebius> elijah: If you want options set like e.g. the "owner" of the fs, you may need one
[01:52] <mmoebius> elijah: read 'man mount' if there's something about hfs options
[01:52] <edbian> fedora_newb, Right click the file.  Go the file permissions tab.  Check the execute check box.
[01:52] <elysium> i am not sure how to find those out. the wireless card came with the computer and the ethernet is onboard
[01:52] <Jordan_U> jakegub: One of the partition tables contains no partitions, probably the GPT one. Select MBR and see if gdisk lists your partitions. If it does, and if it gives an option to remove the GUID partition table then do that (Nothing is actually written to disk by gdisk untill you enter "w").
[01:53] <josh99> What's it take to get ffmpeg to encode to MP3? libavcodec1d is already the newest version.
[01:53] <elijah> mmoebius: I need this drive to stay the way it is because I need to exchange data back and forth via my Mac at work, will doing that allow me to do that?
[01:53] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: you probably need to mark the .exe file as executable
[01:53] <elijah> mmoebius: Ok, I will read up
[01:53] <tensorpudding> fedora_newb: you can do this using chmod +x
[01:53] <fedora_newb> thanks guys, that worked
[01:54] <mmoebius> elijah: there is an uid=n option for hfs, so most likely you will want to have that uid match the uid your user has, see 'id'
[01:54] <esteban> how can i solve this problem of compilation? http://pastebin.com/pj0SqbkP
[01:55] <mmoebius> elijah: You can use the option "noauto" to have the drive only mounted at your request if neeed. And you should add the option "users" or "user" (see 'man mount' again for the fine print)
[01:55] <rewire> fedora_newb: right click on the .exe and select propertys, from there permisions and tix the box that says "allow exicution of this file"
[01:55] <rewire> lol beaten to t
[01:55] <mmoebius> elijah: That way you make the filesystem user mounteable, that is you eliminate the need to use sudo ;.)
[01:55] <rewire> it*
[01:56] <tensorpudding> esteban: looks like a bunch of stuff isn't included
[01:56] <elijah> mmoebius: Is this something I would put in fstab?
[01:56] <mmoebius> josh99: is *ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?
[01:56] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with firestarter, using it for internet sharing but its blocking dhcp requests,specifically <IP_ADDRESS> broadcasts. I've turned them to allow in the config ...
[01:56] <josh99> mmoebius: Doubt it. Obtained those packages manually. I'll check.
[01:56] <mmoebius> elijah: usually yes
[01:57] <fedora_newb> trying to get counter strike source working on ubuntu...so wish me luck :D
[01:57] <esteban> tensorpudding any ideas?
[01:57] <tensorpudding> esteban: you probably should ask on the forums of whatever software it is you're trying to compile
[01:57] <rewire> fedora_newb: have you tryed using "play on linux"?
[01:57] <esteban> should i bring more information?
[01:57] <mmoebius> josh99: You need all those non-free codec packages. *restricted-extras is only a meta package, but it may help :-)
[01:57] <fedora_newb> rewire. no.
[01:58] <fedora_newb> using wine, rewire
[01:58] <mmoebius> elijah: us: Doubt it. Obtained those packages manually. I'll check.
[01:58] <alesan> hi why can't I install a i386 package on a amd64 ubuntu installation?
[01:58] <mmoebius> crap.Keyboard.
[01:59] <rewire> fedora_newb: playonlinux is a system that uses wine (it will install it as a pre-requisit) that will optimise the settings to make sure that the program you select from the list inside of playonlinux works
[01:59] <josh99> mmoebius: Happen to be able to list them?
[01:59] <rewire> if you wanna install commonly used apps, use POL
[01:59] <alesan> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjpg-streamer/files/ -> this program is provided as a i386 .deb packet
[01:59] <elysium> i do not care about the wireless card I just need the ethernet connection to work
[01:59] <jakegub> Jordan_U: Do I need to hit w and then run gparted?
[01:59] <mmoebius> mmoebius: If you get an idea of what to put into fstab, you can always try it out. the risk of losing dat is minimal
[02:00] <mmoebius> josh99: list what ?
[02:00] <mmoebius> josh99: the coidecs ?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Can you pastebin all the output from gdisk?
[02:00] <hiexpo> elysium, did you ifconfig to see ?
[02:00] <josh99> mmoebius: Indeed.
[02:01] <edbian> hiexpo, hello :)
[02:01] <elysium> what should I see on ifconfig?
[02:01] <hiexpo> hello edbian
[02:01] <josh99> mmoebius: Because the only thing ffmpeg tells me is that MP4's unsupported.
[02:01] <mmoebius> josh99: I just go for all *restriced-extras packages the ubunut's offer :-) Just get it all and be over with it once and forever
[02:01] <josh99> s/4/3
[02:02] <hiexpo> edbian, :)
[02:02] <mmoebius> josh99: Installing the meta-packaga will not hurt you. It just pulls in some maybe not-yet installed packages
[02:02] <edbian> How can I manually overwrite the MBR on a hdd?  I have a working live USB (Ubuntu) ?
[02:02] <Charbel> where can i download a paltalk plugin for pidgin ?
[02:02] <Anarkay> im a noob
[02:02] <Jordan_U> jakegub: I'm going to need to leave in about 5 minutes.
[02:03] <Anarkay> noob needs help
[02:03] <edbian> Anarkay, What's your problem.
[02:03] <Blue1Away> Charbel: wow they still have paltak?  I thought that disappeared off the planet a decade ago.
[02:03] <mmoebius> edbian: dd if=source of=/dev/target bs=512 count=1 <--- this writes 1 512 byte sector on the disk
[02:03] <fedora_newb> man...steam pretty laggy...hopefully css will run alot smoother when its installed :(
[02:03] <Anarkay> im on backtrack 4
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, 512 bytes of "00000.." ?
[02:03] <rewire> well you are running windows binarys on linux ^^
[02:03] <ratdog> SoS: i lost my panels & applets, and cant add them back. What the terminal command to reset the Panels  & applets?
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, Thanks. That out to do it! :D
[02:03] <josh99> mmoebius: Is there a regex I can pass to do that? It doesn't like just *-restricted-extras.
[02:03] <mmoebius> edbian: if you use /dev/zero as "source" ,. yes
[02:03] <Charbel> hahaha Blue1Away no it stil exist
[02:03] <Charbel> still*
[02:03] <edbian> mmoebius, I see.  Thanks again
[02:04] <Blue1Away> hmm
[02:04] <Anarkay> i almost got it figured out
[02:04] <hiexpo> !backtarck-linux
[02:04] <Anarkay> ya!
[02:04] <fedora_newb> anyone know of a really good tutorial on install like apache/php/mysql/mail server/ etc?
[02:04] <fedora_newb> thats updated
[02:04] <edbian> ratdog, gnome-panel&
[02:04] <hiexpo> !backtrack
[02:04] <aguitel> what the best apps to rip audio cd ?
[02:04] <at05gt> doesnt rhythmbox do that?
[02:04] <ratdog> applets
[02:04] <mmoebius> josh99: oh, do 'apt-cache search restricted-extras' first
[02:05] <josh99> thanks!
[02:05] <rewire> fedora_newb: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[02:05] <Anarkay> :/
[02:05] <hiexpo> Anarkay, #backtrack-linux
[02:05] <jakegub> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/DWRVvVEx
[02:05] <mmoebius> josh99: You might want to get e.g. kubunut-restricted-extras too, if you ar on kubuntu. Same thing for xubuntu nad maybe others
[02:05] <mmoebius> josh99: definitively get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:05] <fedora_newb> rewire...didn't know they made one for linux...i use them on my windows :D
[02:05] <fedora_newb> thanks
[02:06] <rewire> haha yeah they ported it to win/lin/mac xD
[02:06] <rewire> np :D
[02:06] <ratdog> someone here told me how before, i cant acess my notes
[02:06] <at05gt> why are they called restricted extras?
[02:06] <at05gt> just curious
[02:06] <rewire> anywho, its 2am so im off xD
[02:06] <Blue1> fedora_newb: http://flipsidereality.com/blog/uncategorized/lamp-on-debian-ubuntu-mint-etc-one-line-install/
[02:07] <hiexpo> 1restricted > at05gt
[02:07] <josh99> mmoebius: Everything that printed is apt-getting now. This'll take a while. Cheers.
[02:07] <Jordan_U> jakegub: Try "p", if that lists your partitions then use "w".
[02:07] <mmoebius> at05gt: Because there are e.g. unclear licenses or the packages can be outright illegal in some countries
[02:07] <at05gt> ahh makes sense
[02:07] <n0a1ias> Jordan_U, is ur last name Ugo
[02:07] <ratdog> terminal command to reset panels?
[02:07] <edbian> mmoebius, This appears to have solved my problem.  I love Linux.  Thank you very very much.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> n0a1ias: No, Uggla.
[02:08] <n0a1ias> ha i was close
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, gnome-panel&
[02:08] <ratdog> really
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, Didn't we already do this? :)
[02:08] <jakegub> Jordan_U: Done.  P listed partitions, so I hit w
[02:08] <ratdog> heh
[02:08] <edbian> ratdog, yes really
[02:08] <ratdog> lol
[02:08] <ratdog> ok
[02:08] <mmoebius> edbian: You're welcome :-) dd is a mighty tool. try to read 'man dd' if you have the time ever. This thingie is used e.g. fopr recovery of broken hard drives, too
[02:08] <gstarx90> !end-of-life
[02:09] <Jordan_U> jakegub: If that doesn't remove the GPT then you'll have to use another option that I can't remember off the top of my head, and I need to leave now.   It just hit me that I've been sitting here making filesystem changes/editing fstab/other stuff in the terminal instead of the gui tools.  Dang being used to Ubuntu Server --;
[02:11] <gstarx90> owned
[02:11] <gstarx90> ok, if i install kubuntu-desktop do i get the latest kde
[02:11] <elysium> on ifconfig it says Link encap:Local Loopback  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>  inet6 addr:   : :1/128  Scope:host  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436  Metric:1  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen: 0 RX bytes :0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[02:11] <ZekeS> gstarx90: the latest one in the repository
[02:11] <ZekeS> Which may or may not be the actual latest version
[02:11] <gstarx90> close enough ;x
[02:11] <mmoebius> edbian: Whoops, that was an unwanted side-effect
[02:12] <ratdog> edbian terminal told me, [1] 3309
[02:12] <mmoebius> edbian: You could try using the "gpart" tool to restore the partitions if needed
[02:12] <ratdog> is that a prob :/
[02:12] <Anarkay> when i use the shell konsole on backtrack it doesn't detect my interface, what am i doing wrong
[02:12] <hiexpo> gstarx90, check in distrowatch.com please
[02:12] <IdleOne> Anarkay: asking about backtrack in #ubuntu
[02:12] <IdleOne> !backtrack | Anarkay
[02:12] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't care.  My new problem is that the installer keeps crashing when it starts to write to the new partition.
[02:13] <hiexpo> Anarkay, this is not backtrack support go to #backtrack-linux
[02:13] <Charbel> where can i download a paltalk plugin for pidgin ?
[02:13] <edbian> ratdog, Did the panels show up?
[02:13] <mmoebius> edbian: The installer that's the one on the usb stick ? How'd you get the bootable usb stick ?
[02:14] <ratdog> wait
[02:14] <mmoebius> edbian: or short: Which installer ist it ? Standard or "Alternative" ?
[02:14] <ratdog> worked now
[02:14] <ratdog> ty
[02:14] <at05gt> mmoebius: you have to make a live disk on the usb drive to get it bootable
[02:14] <ratdog> now lost them again
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I have a Debian machine.  Used it to build the USB stick.  When I run the USB stick on the target machine all works fine.  Until the installer starts to write to the target hdd partition.  Get's to about 5% and freezes then crashes
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: Did you make new partitions with e.g. fdisk and did you reboot or 'partprobe' to have the (new) partitions recognized ?
[02:15] <hiexpo> Charbel, i just google paltalk plugin for pidgin
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I choose "use entire disk" in the installer
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, Should I wipe the driver proper?
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: Then the installer will partition it.
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, That's what I figured.
[02:15] <dejavou42> hey everyone, need a little help getting a net install working. I configured everything as said on the ubuntu website, but I thought I might take it a step further and try to get the net live cd working. The instructions say to either mount the iso to the tftpboot root directory or extract the files to that location.
[02:15] <mmoebius> edbian: That'll be as good as wiped
[02:15] <Yan_Nick> hey guys, how can i execute following if my server started?: cd /root/apache-solr-1.4.0/example/ && java -jar start.jar
[02:15] <edbian> mmoebius, Well the installer still crashed at about 5%
[02:16] <edbian> mmoebius, It's doing it as we speak!
[02:16] <mmoebius> edbian: Is the drive physically ok ? Is is pata or sata or scsi ?
[02:16] <dejavou42> Problem is, I mounted the iso, but the client will not boot the live cd
[02:16] <edbian> mmoebius, It's in a netbook.  I don't actually know.  Never took it out.
[02:16] <at05gt> whats the best windows version to use for wine? XP?
[02:16] <Charbel> hiexpo, i google it and all i found forums and Gaim plugin but not available to download
[02:16] <dejavou42> at05gt: depends on what program you're trying to run.
[02:16] <arrrghhh> hey all, can anyone help me with samba?  i'm having client-side issues.  it's asking certain clients for a user/pass, and other clients get no prompt...
[02:17] <at05gt> DS emulator to play my old pokemon games, dont laugh at me there fun
[02:17] <lake> Is there anyway to see a wifi password in plaintext that has been saved through NetworkManager?
[02:17] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted seems to have no trouble clearing it out.
[02:17] <mmoebius> edbian: Mayba you should check the drive's health with the smartmontools the command is 'smartctl'
[02:17] <arrrghhh> lake, probably easier to get it off of the router.
[02:17] <hiexpo> lake, no
[02:17] <dejavou42> at05gt: have you checked to wine app db?
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Command not found.
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, You don't have some other tool on mind do you?
[02:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Can gparted check a drive that has no partitions?
[02:18] <at05gt> dejavou42: i just installed wine im configing it now
[02:18] <arrrghhh> !enter | edbian
[02:18] <mmoebius> edbian: yeah, but gparted will only need to check out hte partition table and maybe a few kb around the partition boundaries. So if there is a write error in the middle of the disk, the system may hang when it writes there
[02:18] <edbian> arrrghhh, Sorry
[02:19] <arrrghhh> edbian, no prob.  looks like you probably just need to install those tools.
[02:19] <mmoebius> edbian: smart is smart, there's no 2nd implementation of it, sorry
[02:19] <dejavou42> check the wine app db to see if the program you're trying to install is supported. http://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:19] <at05gt> thanks deja
[02:19] <elijah> mmoebius: Thanks, I am getting closer
[02:19] <edbian> i have no internet
[02:19] <racerd> hey
[02:20] <dejavou42> at05gt: np
[02:20] <mmoebius> edbian: can't you apt-get install smartmontools in the live environment ?
[02:20] <racerd> what is the command to open the alsa sound options in terminal?
[02:20] <elijah> My mic on my laptop is not working, is there an equivalent of Windows device/hardware manager where I can see all my devices with missing drivers?
[02:20] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't know if I can get the wifi up cli only?
[02:20] <edbian> mmoebius, The gui wouldn't load.  Lemme try again
[02:20] <mmoebius> edbian: A cable would be *way* easier
[02:21] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: If I'm not mistaken samba uses the usernames and passwords from the host computer to authenticate
[02:21] <mmoebius> edbian: wifi on the cli is hard if you need e.g. wpa (wpasupplicant)
[02:21] <edbian> mmoebius, arrrghhh Don't have one I'm afraid.  I agree though.  I'm gonna reboot it.  (I do need wpa2 encypt)
[02:21] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, but why would my laptop sometimes ask for a password, but on my gf's it never asks?  i've even tried "saving" it on my laptop, no luck.
[02:21] <racerd> does no one know?
[02:21] <mmoebius> edbian: without security (maybe wep only) wifi on the cli is doable
[02:21] <elijah> mmoebius: Can I only mount a device if it is in fstab? I try mount /etc/sda1 as root and it says "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:22] <mmoebius> elijah: root can mount anything anywhere. Users need fstab entries
[02:22] <edbian> elijah, Give it a folder to mount in!
[02:22] <hiexpo> edbian, :)
[02:22] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: You should be able to check something like "remember this password" on the client machines. This is probably why some of the computers being asked for credentials
[02:22] <edbian> hiexpo, What are you grinning at me for? :P
[02:22] <mmoebius> elijah: mount /etc/sda1 /mnt shourd work
[02:22] <at05gt> lol wow guild wars works
[02:22] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, i tried that...
[02:23] <hiexpo> edbian,  \ are you testing or are you really down ?
[02:23] <arrrghhh> "i've even tried "saving" it on my laptop, no luck."
[02:23] <edbian> hiexpo, pardon?
[02:23] <elysium> hiexpo, did you see anything in the ifconfig screen that i posted?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Charbel: from what I can see there is no paltalk plugin for pidgin and they don't seem to have plans for it either. You can try www.paltalkexpress.com
[02:23] <hiexpo> edbian, you haveno internet ?
[02:24] <uLinux> I'm trying to resize ext4 partition using 30GB that I was using for Windows.. but it seens I can't do that
[02:24] <uLinux> need urgent help
[02:24] <Charbel> ok thx IdleOne
[02:24] <uLinux> http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/189/selection001lq.png
[02:24] <mmoebius> hiexpo: Of cource edbian has no internet. You're chating with a ghost ;-)
[02:24] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: hmm check your samba settings system --> administration--> samba. Then go to preferences --> server settings
[02:24] <edbian> hiexpo, I have no internet on the target machine.  This machine (the one I'm talking to you on) quite obviously has internet. Of course it does though.  This is my baby! :)
[02:25] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, ah.  it's a server.  i have webmin to configure samba, or the conf file :D
[02:25] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: are you allowing a guest account? what is the authentication mode?
[02:25] <edbian> mmoebius, arrrghhh Speaking of.  I know have internet (and a complete graphical live instance) on the target machine.  I'm gonna install smartlctrl.  Is that the package name?
[02:25] <mmoebius> edbian: package is "smartmontools"
[02:25] <at05gt> wine works but ive got no sound
[02:25] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, yes i believe i have the guest account enabled.
[02:25] <at05gt> nevermind fixed it
[02:26] <elijah> I just tried "dmidecode" and it gave me some good info but is not listing my laptop mic. Any way to find out what my laptop mic is called so I can Google driver support for Linux?
[02:26] <hiexpo> mmoebius, ok
[02:26] <edbian> mmoebius, Thanks.  I'll get it and run it and let you know.  The command is smartctl ?
[02:26] <mmoebius> uLinux: What size do you want for /dev/sda5 ?
[02:26] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: that could be why it prompts sometimes and other times doesn't. Try turning that off and it should prompt all the time.
[02:27] <mmoebius> edbian: yes "smartctl" usually "smartctl -a /dev/whatever"
[02:27] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, lol what if i never want it to prompt... i'd prefer no password authentication.  i know, not secure... but it's only on my lan.
[02:27] <cakeman007> I have a question
[02:27] <uLinux> mmoebius: I want to use those unallocated 30gb..
[02:28] <edbian> mmoebius, I got a lot of errors about public keys not available?
[02:28] <uLinux> where windows was installed
[02:28] <hiexpo> cakeman007, ask full ?
[02:28] <cakeman007> i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi
[02:28] <edbian> I have no keys.
[02:28] <edbian> OMG
[02:28] <mmoebius> edbian: you may need to issue "smartctl -s on /dev/whatever" before you can use smart (enableing it on the device). But you see that if smartctl -a throws an error
[02:28] <goku_> Commodore USA!!!
[02:28] <cakeman007> no drop down menu
[02:28] <cakeman007> or anything
[02:29] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: Not really sure, I haven't dug into samba that far, but My guess would be to try domain.
[02:29] <elijah> mmoebius: Will logging out and back in be good enough to load fstab?
[02:29] <edbian> mmoebius, No no.  I can't even apt-get update.  I have no public keys.  Where can I get them?
[02:29] <ratdog> ty, brb
[02:29] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: As long as all of your computers are on the same domain, it should authenticate
[02:29] <mmoebius> uLinux: You want to use the unallocated Partition before /dev/sda2 , right ?
[02:29] <uLinux> yes mmoebius
[02:30] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, hrm.  is that supported in samba v3?  i know they're making a lot of big promises for v4... but last i tried it wasn't nearly production-ready.
[02:30] <mmoebius> uLinux: That is not easily possible because /dev/sda2 is an extended partition and will AFAIK not move whern there are other partitions inside it.
[02:30] <Mathuin> Is it possible to configure Ubuntu Netbook Remix (or whatever it's currently called) to not lock the screen if AC power is detected?  The power management and screensaver options don't show any easy way.
[02:30] <mmoebius> uLinux: is there data in the ext4 FS  that needs to be retained ?
[02:30] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: don't know about the webmin interface, but it sure is an option on my box. 10.04
[02:30] <dejavou42> desktop
[02:31] <cakeman007> ?
[02:31] <mmoebius> uLinux: Otherwise, you could just kill all partitions and re-setup them fresh and clean
[02:31] <dejavou42> Can anyone help me with a ubuntu net installation using Live CD?
[02:31] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, do you know what version of samba you're running?  if you didn't do any mucking with your repo's i'd assume v3...
[02:31] <edbian> mmoebius, What if I just create a new partition table?
[02:32] <edbian> How can I get the public keys for Ubuntu Netbook?  Anybody?
[02:32] <uLinux> mmoebius: yes .. it seems I have to reinstall everything again just because I had windows installed .. really lame
[02:32] <rooks> is help.ubuntu.com down?
[02:32] <goku_> does ubuntu officially support computers made by Commodore USA???
[02:32] <goku_> ;p
[02:32] <elysium> do i have to give any more information to help any potential problem solvers?
[02:32] <mmoebius> edbian: Well, we wiped your old partition table, that means the harddisk is now about as clean as it can get. You *have to* create a new partition table
[02:32] <josh99> mmoebius: Finished installing; no dice
[02:32] <mmoebius> uLinux: Well, not necessarily
[02:32] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted seems to think there is one there.  msdos
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: In regard to getting ffmpeg to export MP3
[02:33] <arrrghhh> rooks, not for me.  you can always use http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ :D
[02:33] <mmoebius> josh99: Still no mp3 encoding ?
[02:33] <rooks> arrrghhh, k, thx :)
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: Affirmative
[02:33] <mmoebius> josh99:I am out of clues. Did you e.g. reboot so all libraries can reload
[02:33] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: 3.4.7
[02:33] <at05gt> haha WOOT got my emulato working with wine and it recognized my saves
[02:33] <josh99> mmoebius: No; I assumed it'd gripe
[02:33] <at05gt> emulator*
[02:34] <arrrghhh> dejavou42, hrm.  alrighty, i'll pokie around.  thanks!
[02:34] <josh99> rebooting...
[02:34] <dejavou42> arrrghhh: np
[02:34] <mmoebius> edbian: Then gparted has detected some backup copy of the partition table. Wiping sector 0 of the disk should pretty much have busted the partition table.
[02:34] <edbian> mmoebius, k
[02:34] <cakeman007> i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi. help plz?
[02:34] <edbian> mmoebius, gparted is very low level.  Perhaps it's just saying things.
[02:34] <Ivis> can someone please tell me ubuntu beta channel ?
[02:34] <mmoebius> edbian: create a new table if possible (that is no valueable data left on the disk)
[02:35] <administrator_> guys is there any command line to extract resource from a windows game ?
[02:35] <mmoebius> uLinux: You have data (an installed os) in the ext4 fs, right ?
[02:35] <edbian> mmoebius, I'm have an idea.  I'm going to create a partition that's set back a bit on the disk.  If there is a physical problem somewhere maybe I can just avoid it to get a working os on here.
[02:35] <awesome_guest> hi, how easy is it to dual boot if you have windows7 install first?
[02:35] <cakeman007> >:(
[02:35] <hiexpo> cakeman007,   > i have 10.04 Ubuntu 64bit, and i do not have the option to connect to any wifi  < first iwconfig   > than what is yor comp ? > what is your wifi card / brand > model # version #
[02:35] <uLinux> mmoebius: i dont know man it's data (documents, music etc
[02:35] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, same hard drive or 2 hard drives...?
[02:35] <Dulak> !maverick Ivis
[02:35] <mmoebius> edbian: gparted is also quite smart. There are ways (like gpart (not geparted!) does to detect partitions even without partition table
[02:36] <Dulak> !maverick | Ivis
[02:36] <edbian> mmoebius, I see
[02:36] <Ivis> Dulak,  Thanks mate! :)
[02:36] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: same hd
[02:36] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant get to it right now
[02:36] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, it's much easier to install ubuntu first.
[02:36] <cakeman007> im on my mac
[02:37] <mmoebius> uLinux: There is of course the option to shift the whole filesystem by hand. But the procedure is rather dangerous. Would it suffice for you if you could mount the remaining 30gb e.g. like /extra30gb ?
[02:37] <hiexpo> cakeman007, well when you can i am sure we can help you more   ")
[02:37] <elysium> 9.10 version of ubuntu with dell inspiron 531s. onboard ethernet not working to connect to internet
[02:37] <cakeman007> hiexpo,  thats the problem
[02:37] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: could you point me to an up to date dual boot guide, by any chance?
[02:37] <awesome_guest> I can just dl the latest image and use that
[02:37] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, you can do it, but win7 will blast out grub & your ubuntu install.  so then you'll have to boot back to a livecd and fix grub.  plus, if you didn't leave any raw unallocated space... you'll have to resize the existing partition.
[02:38] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant pull up irc while im on linux because i dont have wifi!
[02:38] <uLinux> mmoebius: no I dont want that
[02:38] <awesome_guest> arrrghhh: so win7 first?
[02:38] <uLinux> unfortunately for me
[02:38] <FyreFoX> how to troubleshoot F1-F12 keys not working in lucid with a microsoft 1000 wireless keyboard?
[02:38] <hiexpo> cakeman007, open a terminal iwconfig
[02:38] <mmoebius> uLinux: Even if you use gparted, wouldf you have a backup of the stuff ? Using gparted can lead to catastrophic failures if something unexpected happens
[02:38] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, yes install win7 first.  leave some raw unpartitioned space for ubuntu.  then install ubuntu, using the remaining unpartitioned space on the hd.
[02:39] <awesome_guest> yeah that sounds good
[02:39] <awesome_guest> thanks
[02:39] <cakeman007> hiexpo, i cant!
[02:39] <arrrghhh> awesome_guest, and google is awesome.  here's the official ubuntu doc - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[02:39] <cakeman007> hiexpo im on my mac!
[02:39] <mmoebius> uLinux: You don't want waht ? Shifting by hand or mounting the extra space ?
[02:39] <cakeman007> i have it on dual boot
[02:39] <elysium> hiexpo, i posted the full results of the ifconfig
[02:39] <ragebot> anyone know why g++ --version would tell me that g++ is not installed with synaptic clearly shows that g++ 4.1 is installed?
[02:39] <awesome_guest> hokay
[02:40] <uLinux> mmoebius: I dont a separate partition for the 30gb tks for the help anyway
[02:40] <uLinux> dont want
[02:40] <mmoebius> elijah: fstab is consulted every time "mount" or "umount" nruns. there's no need to logout/in. The change is instanteous
[02:40] <primedeath> Hello folks, I am h aving a problem installing programs from the Ubuntu Software Center. It says there was a programming error in aptdaemon.
[02:40] <awesome_guest> do you know if lucid works well with SSD's?
[02:40] <primedeath> Anyway I can reinstall/fix this?
[02:40] <hiexpo> elysium, where?
[02:41] <Kane_hart> is there something to test out my hdd performance via ssh
[02:41] <ragebot> primedeath, have you tried to use synaptic?
[02:41] <primedeath> Negative.
[02:41] <primedeath> I am a complete noob. ;D
[02:41] <elijah> mmoebius: Thanks! I would never had known that!
[02:41] <elysium> n ifconfig it says Link encap:Local Loopback  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>  inet6 addr:   : :1/128  Scope:host  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436  Metric:1  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen: 0 RX bytes :0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[02:41] <ragebot> primedeath, I would try to use Synaptic.  the software center is very buggy
[02:41] <mmoebius> uLinux: you could try duplicating the existing filesystem to the unoccupied partition if it fits there. then you use that and later, you kill /dev/sda5, then you expand the now existing partition (dev/sda1 to fill the wohle drive
[02:42] <primedeath> Ah, okay. Where would I Acquire that? Just google it?
[02:42] <hiexpo> wasting my time sorry we use pastebin here   gotta go help someone else
[02:42] <mmoebius> uLinux: Of course you have to be lucky,  i.e. /dev/sda5 has to "fit" in the first partition
[02:42] <ragebot> primedeath, it is already installed.  It does the same basic thing as software  center
[02:42] <tim> Where to acquire Synaptic?
[02:42] <ragebot> are you using kde or gnome?
[02:43] <IdleOne> primedeath: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[02:43] <rallias> how do i set a ppa as one of the sources for ubuntu server 10.04?
[02:43] <primedeath> I see Ragebot.
[02:43] <primedeath> Thanks.
[02:43] <elijah> mmoebius: "mount point /media/eli does not exist" any idea? This is following the same pattern as the other drives in fstab.
[02:43] <ragebot> primedeath, NP
[02:43] <mmoebius> elijah: sorry for responding slowly. I hop back and forth between 3 propblems as you see :-)
[02:43] <bastid_raZor> elijah: create the directory /media/eli with sudo mkdir /media/eli
[02:43] <elysium> why don't you enlighten me as to what pastebin is instead of telling me that i am wasting your time? the ifconfig is from another computer
[02:43] <mmoebius> elijah: /media/eli has to be an empty directory
[02:43] <Kane_hart> is there something to test out my hdd performance via ssh
[02:44] <primedeath> Well, I went ahead and did an apt-get install synaptic and it fixed the problem with the USC.
[02:44] <rallias> elysium: ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:44] <uLinux> How can I remove the XP entry on grub?
[02:44] <primedeath> Fixed those errors I had. :D
[02:44] <mmoebius> elijah: try 'sudo mkdir /media/eli'
[02:44] <FrozenFire[work]> http://i.imgur.com/16PEl.png For some reason, my "system tray" widgets are randomly messed up on login. Does anyone know why this happens?
[02:44] <elijah> mmoebius: Hmm, do my other drives in there need those directories? I see them in there but I didn't make them, did fstab make my other drive directories too?
[02:45] <mmoebius> uLinux: try 'update-grub'
[02:45] <ragebot> uLinux, I believe  there is a config file for grub that you can edit.  However, I cannot remember which file
[02:45] <bastid_raZor> elijah: only if you had them mounted during the install or told the installer where to mount them.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[02:45] <elijah> bastid_raZor: Ok, thanks
[02:46] <drjo> where do i see addded ppa's
[02:46] <drjo> cant find them in sources.list
[02:46] <administrator_> guys is there any command line to extract resource (music, images and stuff) from a windows game ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  they should be listed in  the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[02:46] <mmoebius> elijah: no these directories are made when the automounter makes them during automount. Btw: for the "hand created" mountpoints, I'd rather use /mnt/eli in order not to interfere with the automounter which uses /media/<whatever>
[02:46] <ragebot> anyone know what could cause g++ to not be found even though synaptic indicates that it is installed?
[02:46] <elijah> mmoebius: It mounted now, permissions are now root for user and group, I still can't make a new folder on the FS. So now I would unmount and try to mount using that HFS flag right?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  adding things to 'sources.list' is considerd a bad  practice these days
[02:46] <drjo> ok
[02:46] <drjo> why is that ?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !find g++
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> drjo:  theres no need to be adding them to a 'file' the sources.list.d is a better methodology
[02:47] <mmoebius> elijah: yes, now you'd try the uid=.... option when mounting
[02:47] <drjo> yeah ok:)
[02:47] <drjo> found them now
[02:47] <elysium> thank you rallias
[02:47] <elysium> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X5ASpEVg
[02:47] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, I have it installed, according to synaptic, but when I try to use it says that g++ cannot be found
[02:48] <edbian> mmoebius, I'm doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512    no count
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  try the 'rehash' command to recheck the paths perhaps.
[02:48] <edbian> mmoebius, Just to wipe the drive.
[02:48] <elijah> mmoebius: K
[02:48] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/bin/g++
[02:48] <mmoebius> elijah: if you are mounting as root, you can pass any option with 'mount -o option1=xyz,option2=foo' etc. that saves you from editing /etc/fstab for each attempt
[02:48] <edbian> My ubuntu live USB is missing the public keys to talk to the repos.  Can anybody help?
[02:49] <mmoebius> edbian: That wipes the drive for sure :-)
[02:49] <ragebot> find !reshash
[02:49] <edbian> mmoebius, Can I speed it up with a bigger bs ?
[02:49] <ragebot> !find rehash
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> rehash = bash built in command to recheck the paths/cach of the paths.
[02:49] <golemz> So I downloaded the alternate cd for my amd64/asus a8n32-sli.  I installed it to a usb drive and booted off it, but neither ps2 nor usb keyboard are working - i can't tell it to start the installation!
[02:49] <mmoebius> edbian: you could use a larger bs= to speed up the process as writing 512 bytes at a time is not the optimum for thruput :-) try bs=8M
[02:50] <xfreakk> hi
[02:50] <mmoebius> edbian: yes. I see, you ask the right questions :-)
[02:50] <edbian> mmoebius, Now I'm getting 121 MB/sec instead of 8
[02:50] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, says reshash cannot be found either.  BTW, I am running off of a flashdrive if it make a difference
[02:50] <mordjah_> howdy
[02:50] <edbian> mmoebius, O good! :)
[02:50] <astrocub> in what bundle s the "as" program located?
[02:51] <astrocub> is*
[02:51] <xfreakk> any programmers here have any ideas of open source projects for me to help contribute to? I would like to start getting involved
[02:51] <mmoebius> edbian: That's a netbbook ?
[02:51] <edbian> mmoebius, yeah.  120Gb hdd
[02:51] <astrocub> xfreakk: http://openhatch.org
[02:51] <xfreakk> thanks astrocub
[02:51] <astrocub> np gl
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  its a bash built in.. youi are using bash?
[02:51] <mmoebius> edbian: btw, to get it a little mote "graphic" ,  some people use ddrescue which has the same options as dd but a nice progress indicator and integrated throughput calculator
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  could be your PATH is all wrong or somthiong else  going on.
[02:52] <hiexpo> hello Dr_Willis
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> hi hiexpo
[02:52] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, good questions, I assume XFCE comes with bash.  I don't think it would come with kshell
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  $ echo $SHELL
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> /bin/bash
[02:53] <drjo> nothing on openhatch for java :(
[02:53] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, yup bash
[02:53] <mmoebius> astrocub: do you have "as" installed or are you missing it ?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  path to the binary is --> /usr/bin/g++
[02:54] <hiexpo> all bash best
[02:54] <mordjah_> mm any idea why im not able to join ##java?
[02:54] <mmoebius> astrocub: if you have it installed (most likely) then try 'dpkg -S $(which as)'
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !register | mordjah_
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> mordjah_:  proberly regiustered nicks only
[02:54] <mordjah_> aah
[02:54] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, yeah, I just checked where is g++ and got nothing.  But yes, /use/bin/ is in the path
[02:54] <hiexpo> hmm
[02:55] <theixle> I'm having trouble printing to a shared printer on a windows machine. I've read all the how-to's on the forum but A) They don't match my kubuntu printer setup options and B) If the windows printer is shared in samba by default I don't know the smb:// address.
[02:56] <drjo> what is ubuntu member ?
[02:56] <IdleOne> !membership | drjo
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> theixle:  you could always use smb://TheMachinesipNumber/
[02:56] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, would there be a difference b/t the default g++ (which I uninstalled) and g++ 4.1 (which is installed)
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  no idea really. I just install build-essential  and thats about it.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> ragebot:  how did you install 4.1 ?
[02:57] <theixle> Dr_Willis, I tried that it didn't find it in the scan.
[02:57] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, from synatpic
[02:57] <elijah> mmoebius: I am running " sudo mount -o hfs uid=n /dev/sda1" and I get "mount: special device uid=n does not exist"
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> theixle:  you could try the cups web interface also. http://localhost:631
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> work time. bye all.
[02:59] <theixle> anyone else got help for printing to a windows shared printer from ubuntu?
[02:59] <ragebot> Dr_Willis, bye
[02:59] <mmoebius> elijah: a little confusion on your side :-) The right command is 'sudo mount -t hfs -o uid=[put-your-userid-here] /dev/sda1' if you have an fstab entry for it
[02:59] <mmoebius> elijah: and you need your numeric userid for that. Which is it ?
[02:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh, okay, hwo do I find my user id?
[03:00] <fluvvell> does anyone understand firestarter, and why it blocks dhcp requests?
[03:00] <bastid_raZor> elijah: type 'id' in a terminal
[03:00] <mmoebius> elijah: userid: 'id' ... thios tells aoyu also all the groups you are in :-.)
[03:00] <elijah> bastid_raZor: Got it, 1000 it appears
[03:00] <mordjah_> how do i get a channel list?
[03:01] <mmoebius> elijah:the option -h in "mount -t hfs" determines the type of the filesystem. Taht is of course "hfs" for your drive
[03:01] <armyriad> How can I start the User Manager from the command line?
[03:01] <st> does 'smb://' protocol a Nautilus' things, or some other file managers dupport it??
[03:01] <edbian> I cannot install Ubuntu on this netbook.  I'm open to anything at this point.  The installer crashes at 5% every time!
[03:01] <elijah> mmoebius: I ran the above command and it printed out what seems like a mini-help file
[03:02] <edbian> Any ideas are welcome!!!!
[03:02] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter
[03:02] <mmoebius> elijah:the option -o in "mount -o uid=..." then sets special options that belong to the hfs filesystem only. Just for info: 'man mount' covers first the general options to 'mount' and then, later on the special options fopr certain filesystems
[03:03] <mmoebius> edbian: what is the partition layout now ? and did "smartctl -a
[03:04] <mmoebius> " return anything useable or errors ?
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, I can't get smartctl installed because I have no public keys so I can't talk to the apt package mirrors
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, The entire drive is empty. No partitions at all.
[03:04] <mmoebius> elijah: if you just type "id" and hit enter it should work, no ?
[03:04] <mmoebius> edbian: maybe you need a partition table with partitions ?
[03:04] <edbian> mmoebius, Your help is very much appreciated.  Thank you.  I figured you'd be done with me! :P
[03:05] <elijah> mmoebius: I am following you, however that command prints out put like this - http://typr.in/24rq
[03:05] <elijah> mmoebius: "id" works great, I am 1000!
[03:05] <edbian> mmoebius, I'll try it.
[03:06] <mmoebius> elijah: interesting. Then you have to give the "mount-point", too. that is the empty directory you have set up before
[03:06] <edbian> mmoebius, I've tried so many variations now.  I'm sure I've covered this case.
[03:07] <mmoebius> edbian: No, not done with you :-) So, you have some / and some swap partition, i guess ?
[03:07] <edbian> mmoebius, I have 0 partitions.  an empty disk
[03:08] <mmoebius> edbian: btw, what version of ubuntui is it you try to install ? Is it 10.04 ?  Just because i remember some baaaad headaches on a dell laptop with ubuntu 9.04
[03:08] <edbian> 10.04
[03:08] <Fudge> has anyone configured xserver-xorg-video-dummy before and know how to make it work?
[03:08] <edbian> mmoebius, This is an acer aspire one.  I'm installing 10.04 netbook edition using a 1Gb live USB
[03:08] <mmoebius> edbian: use fdisk to make e.g. 20 gb / (root) and 2 gb for swap (just testing, you can resize them later
[03:09] <edbian> mmoebius, Does it make a difference that I did that (almost) exact scenario with gparted?
[03:09] <mmoebius> edbian: I hope the wlan will work for you. I've seen people having headaches with that, but that was a year ago or so
[03:10] <edbian> mmoebius, wlano works on the live USB.  I'd like the installer to work for me.
[03:10] <mmoebius> edbian: No, usuinf gparted or fdisk is pretty much the same on the outcome
[03:10] <edbian> mmoebius, Well then that experiment has been done and it didn't work :(
[03:10] <elijah> mmoebius: I got this to work "sudo mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli" however, I am now thinking that hfsplus and hfs are not going to support the same options
[03:10] <edbian> I don't think it's an error with the hdd.  I admit it appears to be.  But I don't think it is.  Anyway, any other suggestions?
[03:10] <elijah> mmoebius: owner of mount point is back at 501
[03:11] <mmoebius> elijah: Oh, i wouldn't know if the drive is hfsplus or hfs formatted. Which filesystem is on the drive ?
[03:11] <elijah> mmoebius: It is hfsplus
[03:11] <bfsd> I'm trying to install truecrypt on my system.  but when i type "sudo sh /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86" i only get error message "Can't open /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86".  What to do?
[03:11] <edbian> mmoebius, Just a guess here.  I'm gonna try ext3 instead of 4.
[03:12] <edbian> I doubt this will solve the prob though
[03:12] <mmoebius> edbian: ext3 is more tested. go ahead. Good idea.
[03:12] <masen> bfsd: does the file exist (eg can you tab complete to it?) and is it executable
[03:12] <masen> do a ls -la /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86
[03:12] <mmoebius> edbian: Actually, I'd say you get the alternate installer (if that is still available with 10.04) and install from text mode.
[03:12] <git__> hi guys
[03:13] <git__> what's a good Gigabit switch for a home office?
[03:13] <mmoebius> edbian: the graphic installer can hang badly  (that was it what ist did for me on the dell laptop)
[03:13] <bfsd> masen not sure what to answer.  It's what i took out of the tar.gz file
[03:13] <git__> and does Ubuntu 10.04 transfer file between two computer as fast as 1,000Mbps?
[03:13] <randomOfAmber> is there some way you can make a flash drive that will authenticate for you when you have it plugged in?  like one full of keys
[03:13] <bfsd> mASEN "ls: cannot access /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-setup-ubuntu-x86: No such file or directory"
[03:13] <mattgyver> probably a stupid question but should sound work in a live cd?  I do not hear anything when running 10.04 on my laptop from a live cd.
[03:14] <mmoebius> edbian: Or: use a micro-SD card and and adaptor. Ehen you can use a "normal" computer and install from the CD-drive, just the install target is the microSD card and not the internal hd
[03:14] <astrocub> Thank you mmoebius, I had it installed. It is located in the binutils package.
[03:14] <masen> bfsd: but you can see the file on your desktop?
[03:14] <edbian> mmoebius, mmmm ext3: same issue.
[03:14] <hiexpo> should
[03:14] <bfsd> masen yes
[03:15] <mmoebius> elijah: unfortunately, i see no options in 'man mouunt' for hfsplus. :-(
[03:15] <bfsd> /home/n/Desktop truecrypt-7.0a-setup-x86
[03:15] <hiexpo> welp gn alll
[03:15] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't have a flash drive that big.  Perhaps I'll try creating a new copy of the USB drive.  That's the only thing I see could be wrong.
[03:15] <wasnik> hhi guys just installed ubuntu netbook
[03:15] <elijah> mmoebius: I just found this from 2008 that says there is no write support for HFS+ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/mounting-hfs-volumes-under-linux-521189/
[03:15] <masen> bfsd: okay, try the ls -la command again, but try to use tab completion in your shell to autocomplete the file name
[03:15] <wasnik> but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:16] <snadg3> i have to manually restart cups and samba to get my printer to share.. is there a workaround for this?
[03:16] <bfsd> masen  tabing gives me this ":~$ ls -la /home/n/Desktop/truecrypt-7.0a-"
[03:17] <mmoebius> elijah: At least in gentoo, the situation seems a (little) differnt: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Hfsplus
[03:17] <wasnik> just installed ubuntu netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:17] <masen> bfsd: then push tab twice and it will list all possible completions
[03:17] <sentry> what exactly is ppa? where is it located?
[03:17] <masen> copy/paste what is displays
[03:17] <mmoebius> elijah: Maybe the thing about "disabling journaling" under MacOsX is what you have to do to get it to work
[03:18] <Lxndr> Hello! Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this?
[03:18] <masen> sentry: ppa is a personal package archive, unsupported software hosted on ubuntu launchpad
[03:18] <mmoebius> edbian: I'm thinking if you can't get some minimalistiv linux installed before you try that whopping big ubuntu
[03:18] <masen> sentry: you can add them by typing: sudo add-apt-repository <ppa url>
[03:18] <masen> then update your repo cache with: sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <edbian> mmoebius, Yeah I've been thinking bout that too.  But I want what I want. :)
[03:19] <sentry> so it is not on ubuntu
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, Good idea though.  I'll go grab arch or something.  That is like 100MB
[03:19] <sentry> it is a site
[03:19] <masen> it's not officially supported software
[03:19] <masen> its a repository
[03:19] <mmoebius> edbian: Maybe you just try a "notmal" intaller and not from the netbook edition.
[03:19] <masen> so it will show up in synaptic
[03:19] <Lxndr> Hello! Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this?
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, I think the fact that the public keys were missing on a live CD was foreshadowing that the image wasn't complete for some reason
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, Yeah, that too.
[03:19] <masen> and function transparently with the software that comes with ubuntu
[03:19] <elijah> mmoebius: Now I am scared :)
[03:19] <mmoebius> edbian: I am sorry I have so little actual help to offer for you :-(
[03:19] <edbian> mmoebius, :)  Thanks for all the help!
[03:20] <bfsd> masen  yes  "truecrypt-7.0a-linux-x86.tar.gz" and  "truecrypt-7.0a-setup-x86"
[03:20] <mmoebius> elijah: why scared ?
[03:20] <KDC1956> will the ubuntu 10.10 have better wireless drives on it
[03:21] <bastid_raZor> KDC1956: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:21] <mmoebius> elijah: oh, did you ever try 'mount -t hfsplus' ?
[03:21] <bfsd> masen now it worked.  Thank you
[03:21] <masen> bfsd: alright, type the s and press tab to complete the filename and see if it still gives you the not found error
[03:21] <masen> bfsd: great!
[03:21] <elijah> mmoebius: I was really hoping to be able to leave the drive as is so I could bring it back and forth between work
[03:21] <mmoebius> elijah: The Gentoo documentation is very "from the grounds up".  In ubuntu, generally kernels and modules will already be compiled and basically it
[03:21] <mmoebius> 's all ready to us for you
[03:22] <mmoebius> elijah: did you ever try 'mount -t hfsplus' ?
[03:23] <mmoebius> elijah: that is if you instruct mount with -t hfs to treat the drive as hfs, the mounting sure to fail (--> read only)
[03:23] <elijah> mmoebius: Just tried it and the command went well
[03:23] <elijah> mmoebius: When I try to access disk in Dolphin it gives error (after password)
[03:24] <elijah> mmoebius: I tried mount -t hfsplus
[03:24] <mmoebius> elijah: see on the command line first. Where did you mount it ?
[03:25] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter?
[03:25] <mmoebius> elijah: you'll have to use a longer commend line, just like the longer ones above. with all the -o uid and /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:25] <elijah> mmoebius: I just typed mount -t hfsplus, nothing else, would it just use what is in fstab then?
[03:25] <hou5ton> Any suggestions for software to be on my linux laptop, and being able to manage a windows 7 system remotely?
[03:25] <Lxndr> Firefox is unable to communicate with my speakers. (I test this by going to youtube and playing a particular video). Said same video works perfectly fine in Chrome. What can I do to solve this? Or do I need to go somewhere else?
[03:26] <masen> Lxndr: click the speaker in your panel and select sound preferences
[03:26] <mmoebius> elijah: no, just -t <filesystem-type> is not enough    that's like saying "Buy a red' ... a red what ? Apple ? Car ? ...
[03:26] <masen> Lxndr: select the applications tab in the dialog and see if firefox is turned down or muted
[03:27] <mmoebius> elijah: the least is mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 if there is an fstab entry for /dev/sda1
[03:27] <elijah> mmoebius: Gotcha, I just tried the long way, uid= didn't take
[03:27] <wasnik> but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:27] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:27] <elijah> mmoebius: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: did that go through smoothly ?
[03:28] <masen> hou5ton: rdesktop is included with ubuntu, to connect via RDP from your shell: rdesktop <hostname>
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: the command looks right
[03:28] <elijah> mmoebius: It mounted but owner is still 501
[03:28] <Lxndr> masen: Speaker in my panel? I'm not sure what you mean.
[03:28] <mmoebius> elijah: strange :-(
[03:28] <elijah> mmoebius: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5878/
[03:29] <masen> Lxndr: i meant the speaker icon, but you may not have it. the same dialog can be summoned by going to System > Preferences > Sound
[03:29] <hou5ton> masen:  not to sound too much like a newbie (which i am) ... but will that access the computer in another state?
[03:29] <hou5ton> masen:  Not on a LAN
[03:29] <rallias> does anyone have the rubygems bundler deb file?
[03:30] <mintypu> hi to every one
[03:30] <masen> hou5ton: do you have a router giving out NAT IPs (192.168.x.y) or do you have a public IP?
[03:30] <Lxndr> masen: The only applications under System -> Preferences -> Sound are "Alsa plug-in (chrome)" and "Alsa plug in (seesmic desktop". Hmmm, this implies that perhaps I should get an alsa plugin for firefox? assuming one exists?
[03:30] <edbian> hou5ton, If you set up the network on both ends correctly.  rdesktop can. But it's slow over the internet.
[03:30] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:30] <mmoebius> elijah: You  mean: "HFS+ tools for r/w in linux are now in the repositories. Marking as implemented." ?
[03:30] <elijah> mmoebius: yes
[03:30] <mattgyver>  I just booted the live cd on my new laptop to make sure it runs before I install it, I have no sound, is this normal for the live cd?
[03:30] <masen> I've found that RDP over internet is not so bad, better than VNC at any rate
[03:31] <edbian> mmoebius, I have a suse 11.3 iso laying around in here so I'll try that out.
[03:31] <xfreakk> omg I just realized Oracle VM has a Seamless mode <------- sooooo sexy lol
[03:31] <edbian> mmoebius, I haven't tried normal Ubuntu either
[03:31] <mintypu> I have two desktop running the same ubuntu os and I want to connect to the other remotely as if I was in another place can any one help me through this
[03:31] <elijah> mmoebius: That means it should work right?
[03:31] <hou5ton> masen edbian: the addresses are dynamically assigned.   Is there a product that you know of that would be fast enough to matter over the internet?
[03:31] <edbian> hou5ton, ssh  (which is cli only)
[03:31] <mmoebius> edbian: well, they _should_ all work :( But if it was for that, this IRC channel wouldn't exist
[03:32] <masen> I was going to suggest copssh for windows
[03:32] <masen> its an openssh distro for cygwin that is very easy to set up if you like the command line
[03:32] <mmoebius> elijah: same as for edbian: There should be a way to do it
[03:32] <edbian> hou5ton, It's not that the program is poorly written.  It's just that you're asking the program to stream 1024 x 768 (720p res) live in addition to all the mouse and keyboard and lower level stuff.  It is just a lot of info.
[03:32] <elijah> mmoebius: It just seems like if I can only have permission, it should work
[03:33] <masen> Lxndr: have you tried completely removing firefox and flash and reinstalling?
[03:33] <edbian> elijah, What are you trying to do?
[03:33] <masen> it could be a config issue
[03:33] <mmoebius> elijah: can you paste the output of 'mount' alone and of 'cat /proc/filesystems' ?
[03:33] <hou5ton> masen edbian: maybe I should be more specific too ... I need to help an elderly lady manage her computer and photos, etc. .... and she is a 6 hour drive one way ... so ...
[03:33] <Lxndr> masen: I have!
[03:34] <brophat> does ubuntu work with those amd quad chips?
[03:34] <masen> hou5ton: RDP is probably your best bet then and it's already part of windows
[03:34] <Lxndr> masen: I'm trying this (http://planet-geek.com/archives/2006/06/firefox-alsa-fl-1.html) right now.
[03:34] <edbian> hou5ton, Become a whiz at the term!  IF you can do it graphically you can do it with the terminal with almost 0 exceptions.  It just that some things (image editing comes to mind) are much much easier graphically
[03:34] <masen> Lxndr: good luck, that tutorial is pretty old
[03:34] <edbian> hou5ton, masen
[03:34] <mmoebius> elijah: at least as the root user you'd have access. Interesting to see is if the drive got mounted r/w or ro only
[03:35] <edbian> hou5ton, masen's suggestion was good too
[03:35] <hou5ton> thanks all
[03:35] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Does she have an internet access ?
[03:35] <elijah> mmoebius: Here are both - http://typr.in/k2yg
[03:35] <hou5ton> oh yes ... a broadband connection
[03:35] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... a broadband connection
[03:35] <mmoebius> elijah: That's the good one: "/dev/sda1 on /mnt/eli type hfsplus (rw,uid=1000)"
[03:36] <Lxndr> masen: I figure alsa-oss might be good to install, in any case. But thanks.
[03:36] <mmoebius> the drive is r/w and at least the mount command processed the uid option.
[03:36] <pyrophelia> is there a "safe" way to shut a system down that is currently doing a raid rebuild?  It takes ~4-5 days to resync this raid I don't want to loose my current progress
[03:36] <hou5ton> It is mediacom cable
[03:36] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh! Nice!
[03:37] <mmoebius> elijah: /proc/filesystem says that hfsplus is asupportrd type, for the -t option of mount in theis case (was a 'backup' information for me)
[03:37] <elijah> mmoebius: If I do kdesudo dolphin and then navigate there and try to make a new folder it is still grayed out
[03:38] <WXZ> what's the url for the karmic repository?
[03:38] <mmoebius> elijah: can you give me the output of   'ls -ld /mnt/eli'    and    'ls -la /mnt/eli | head -n3'    ?
[03:38] <mmoebius> elijah: If there is no sensitive private information in it,. i mean
[03:39] <elijah> mmoebius: http://typr.in/j48u
[03:39] <Lxndr> masen: Well, so far no luck.
[03:40] <masen> Lxndr: hmm, and using chrome isn't a viable workaround?
[03:40] <masen> or you just want firefox to work
[03:41] <test34> why use chrome if you can use firefox
[03:41] <masen> cuz firefox doesn't have sound on Lxndr's system
[03:41] <mmoebius> hou5ton: She uses windows ? Then try ultravnc as the "server"
[03:41] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... windows 7
[03:42] <masen> do you know the edition? starter, home basic, home premium, ultimate?
[03:42] <mmoebius> elijah: that *is strange* There does uid 501 and group=dialout come from ?!?
[03:42] <mmoebius> elijah: You could do 'sudo -i'
[03:42] <elijah> mmoebius: That better be a rhetorical question :D
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then 'cd /mnt/eli'
[03:43] <Lxndr> masen: It's viable, but not necessarily preferred.
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then try 'mkdir testdir' or 'touch testfile'
[03:43] <mmoebius> elijah: then see with ls -l what it gets you
[03:43] <elijah> mmoebius: "root@gaia-one:/mnt/eli# mkdir test      >   mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Read-only file system
[03:44] <elijah> mmoebius: I am reading this now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2346494#post2346494
[03:44] <masen> Lxndr: I've mucked my sound system on ubuntu before by playing with Jack, and I tried for about 6 hours to get pulse or alsa working again and it was totally fruitless
[03:44] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:44] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:44] <mmoebius> hou5ton: I wouldn't know if ultravnc runs on win7 as well as it does on xp, but it is quite good. I use it regularly on ~600 km with ~ 1Mbit lines.
[03:44] <masen> I backed up my home dir and packages and just reinstalled
[03:44] <masen> then it worked again
[03:44] <elijah> mmoebius: Ahh, that is old school info
[03:45] <mmoebius> elijah: I am out of clues :-(
[03:45] <masen> Lxndr: did it ever work?
[03:45] <elijah> I guess  I can make a forum post
[03:45] <elijah> mmoebius: I really appreciate all your effort!
[03:45] <Nautilus> i want to grep all files but don't what the wildcard is... thought it was * but no.
[03:45] <EddFace> hello
[03:45] <EddFace> is anyone online?
[03:46] <mmoebius> elijah: btw, between all the tests, did you a) ever unmount the drive in between and b) could you comment out any line in /etc/fstab just for testing ?
[03:46] <edbian> EddFace, we are online
[03:46] <mmoebius> elijah: I mean any line in /etc/fstab referring to /dev/sda1 or /mnt/eli
[03:46] <EddFace> Oh i have a quick question if you guys dont mind...
[03:46] <elijah> mmoebius: I did do "umount", I found out that unmount is not a valid command
[03:46] <masen> EddFace: that's why we're here
[03:46] <elijah> mmoebius: Sure, I can comment that out
[03:47] <EddFace> Is there a way to make an ubuntu .iso that i can use on a laptop from an already installed OS in my friends desktop?? thanks
[03:47] <masen> EddFace: if the OS is a windows variant, then yes! The main desktop iso should work for that
[03:47] <mmoebius> hou5ton: On the ubuntu side, "vinagre" is the best viewer i know
[03:48] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:48] <elijah> mmoebius: When I umount it as root it says it's busy..... not that I know of?
[03:48] <mmoebius> elijah: then if the line in /etc/fstab is gone, try umounting and mounting the disk again.
[03:48] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  ok ... i'm lookign at ultravnc now ... looks like I can run it on linux and work on a windows 7 machine.
[03:48] <brophat> anyone know if ubuntu works on the amd quad core chips?
[03:48] <Nautilus> whats the file wildcard?  eg: on windows I could do: dir *.*
[03:48] <EddFace> what do you mean a windows variant? I want to install ubuntu on my laptop again but without having to order the CD again, and i was hoping to just like copy the desktops OS files over to my laptop
[03:48] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Is your current directory the mounteddirectory ?
[03:48] <edbian> brophat, It should
[03:48] <masen> EddFace: just make sure you pick the right architecture, if your laptop is 64bit, then get the 64 iso. If you have x86, then get x86. You know?
[03:48] <mmoebius> elijah: Is your current directory the mounteddirectory ?
[03:48] <elijah> mmoebius: negative
[03:48] <EddFace> yeah i got that theyre both 32bit
[03:49] <brophat> edbian i know it should, but the question is does it
[03:49] <jrib> Nautilus: what do you want to accomplish exactly?
[03:49] <edbian> brophat, :)  There's only 1 way to find out for sure!
[03:49] <mmoebius> elijah: try 'fuser /mnt/eli'
[03:49] <Nautilus> jrib: grep -d 'system/files' <in all files>
[03:49] <elijah> mmoebius: Outpit of that = "/mnt/eli/:            5577c"
[03:49] <brophat> edbian i am looking into buying a puter
[03:49] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:49] <Nautilus> jrib: I want to find all occurences of that string
[03:49] <brophat> i don't currently have it
[03:49] <masen> EddFace: what do you mean copy the desktops OS files?
[03:49] <typemore> does ubuntu support a machien with 2 quad-core i7's ?
[03:49] <jrib> Nautilus: <in all files> as in everything in /?
[03:49] <mmoebius> elijah: that tells you whil process is using files in /mnt/eli    "using files" ==> fuser :-)
[03:50] <Nautilus> jrib yup
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, Take the live CD to the store?    I think there is a website about what hardware is supported.
[03:50] <jrib> Nautilus: pass -r to grep and specify / as the path
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: gtk
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: that means process no. 5577 is using the drive
[03:50] <Nautilus> oh -r
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: What does 5577c mean then?
[03:50] <WXZ> what's the url for karmics repository?
[03:50] <elijah> mmoebius: Hmm
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: try ps ax | grep 5577  to see which process it is
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, The processor is not going to be your problem though. It's your wifi card, and video card, and sound card.  Those are the trouble makers.
[03:50] <edbian> brophat, The processors are all standardized.
[03:50] <mmoebius> elijah: 5577 should not have a "c" behind it
[03:51] <EddFace> Ok, so my laptop had ubuntu on it, then it crashed, so i attempted to reformat, but it wont get past an error boot screen, so so simplify it, I want ubuntu on my laptop, my friends computer has ubuntu on it, and I want to copy his ubuntu to my laptop.. if that makes sense
[03:51] <brophat> hmm ok thnks i will take a live cd to store
[03:51] <elijah> mmoebius: "5577 pts/2    S      0:00 -bash
[03:51] <elijah>  5660 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto 5577
[03:51] <mmoebius> elijah: PID numbers are only plain numbers
[03:51] <elementzero> so i have a question that, though it applies to linux mint, is a general linux question -- i want to boot mint using the normal video drivers (vesa, or whatever) instead of nvidia's drivers
[03:51] <elementzero> since all i get is a black screen on boot
[03:51] <mmoebius> elijah: then your current shell (or any other shell) is in /mnt/eli directory
[03:51] <edbian> EddFace, What's special about his?
[03:51] <masen> EddFace: ohhh. all you have to do is download the .iso from ubuntu.com and then right click it and open with brasero to burn a new ubuntu installer
[03:52] <mmoebius> elijah: you could kill the shell ... btw, you still are in the 'sudo -i' , right  ?
[03:52] <elijah> mmoebius: I am retarded, yeah, it is me
[03:52] <Roasted> any tips on getting rid of this god forsaken video tearing that has plagued my ubuntu systems since I got hooked on it in 2006? Currently on an nvidia 9600GT. even with compiz off, it happens. vsync to blank is as useful as windows vista. Any other tips?
[03:52] <EddFace> Well yeah i was just wondering if there was a way to do it without having to download the iso, it takes me a really long time to download files and i need my laptop by tommorrow
[03:52] <EddFace> but if theres no way thats ok
[03:52] <mmoebius> elijah: Quit the 'sudo -i' ;-)
[03:53] <elijah> mmoebius: How do you quit sudo?
[03:53] <edbian> elijah, ctrl + c
[03:53] <mmoebius> elijah: 'logout' is the safest thing. Actually, you leave  the bash that got invoked by sudo :-)
[03:53] <masen> EddFace: there is probably a way, but it probably take longer to figure out that downloading the iso... does your friend not still have his ubuntu cd?
[03:53] <elijah> mmoebius: Worked!
[03:54] <elijah> mmoebius: K, I umounted fine
[03:54] <mmoebius> edbian: ctrl+d would be the thing, but that can fail if one is not at a new line
[03:54] <elijah> mmoebius: Now would I do mount -t hfsplus
[03:54] <mmoebius> edbian: so, logging out is rather ctrl-c ctrl-c ctrl-c  ctrl-c ctrl-d ... and that can still fail.
[03:54] <EddFace> No he doesnt anymore, he lost it a while back... but if there is a guide or something you guys can point me to that would be awesome
[03:54] <mmoebius> elijah: no, the long mount line
[03:54] <edbian> mmoebius, ahhh
[03:55] <edbian> mmoebius, Well I'm giving up on the netbook tonight.
[03:55] <mmoebius> elijah: mount -t hfsplus -o uid=1000 /dev/sda1 /mnt/eli
[03:55] <detrix> Hi all. How do I permanently mount a new hard drive?  What do I have to add to the /etc/fstab file?
[03:55] <edbian> mmoebius, I don't know what to think anymore!  suse, systemRescueCD, ubuntu minimum installer   all don't work :(
[03:55] <elijah> mmoebius: The command worked
[03:55] <masen> EddFace: i can't help you there, sorry. it would be difficult without live cds and a strong working knowledge of df, etc
[03:56] <elijah> mmoebius: How do I tell if it mounted in cli, not dolphin?
[03:56] <EddFace> well alright
[03:56] <EddFace> thanks anyways
[03:56] <mmoebius> elijah: then try ls -la /mnt/eli | head -n3 to see who "owns" the files this time
[03:56] <elementzero> can anyone help me change my video drivers from nvidia to vesa using a livecd?
[03:57] <elijah> mmoebius: still 501 and dialout
[03:57] <test34> elementzero, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <elementzero> it doesn't exist :-/
[03:57] <mmoebius> edbian: It all depends on crazyness. If in a total pinch, go for gentoo. Putre manual installation
[03:57] <elementzero> and i made it anyway
[03:57] <elementzero> and it's still a black screen
[03:57] <elijah> mmoebius: mount still says r/w, uid=1000
[03:57] <test34> elementzero, you might need to mount the drive first
[03:57] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  it appears that things like GoToMyPC are downloaded on the computer I want to work on, and I connect through a third party access?
[03:58] <elijah> In addition, I cannot post a new thread on Ubuntu forums, my account is locked.
[03:58] <elementzero> this is on mint 9 xfce
[03:58] <mmoebius> elijah: there is something b0rked. seriously b0rked. I am out of clues
[03:58] <test34> elementzero, join #mint ?
[03:58] <elementzero> i'll try mounting the drive
[03:58] <elementzero> test34: they had no idea. and in anycase i'm downloading ubuntu right now :)
[03:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Okay, I will post in forums. I just realized I was trying to post in archived forum
[03:59] <mmoebius> hou5ton: there are serveral such "redirectors" the usual problem is that the people who need help are on a dialup, often behind a firewall or nat
[03:59] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[03:59] <masen> well you can't expect to edit files on a drive that's not mounted. once you mount the drive it will be straightforward
[03:59] <elementzero> i probably shouldn't have installed the nvidia drivers in retrospect, seeing as that i have optimus drivers
[03:59] <elementzero> and afaik, optimus is not at all working with linux, yet
[03:59] <elijah> mmoebius: Gonna do that tomorrow night though, appreciate your help greatly!
[03:59] <mmoebius> elijah: Don't give up. It'll work some day. HPFSplus r/w is just a 6 month old "baby"
[03:59] <mmoebius> elijah: You're welcome :-)
[03:59] <test34> elementzero, the nvidia driver works fine with me
[04:00] <elementzero> with optimus?
[04:00] <mmoebius> hou5ton: What i have used sucessfully in ugly situations is "reverse connection" and the ultravnc single click exe
[04:00] <elijah> mmoebius: I believe! I want to write more than just "It's broke please help me fix it" in my forum thread so I will do that with a fresh head.
[04:00] <elementzero> right now i'm installing xubuntu over mint
[04:00] <test34> elementzero, I probably use the official one
[04:00] <elementzero> if that doesn't work, i'll try ubuntu and just replace gnome with xfce
[04:00] <test34> elementzero, it is only available as a binary
[04:00] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes ... I'm reading about ultravnc now
[04:01] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It all depends on the setup and the network (routers, firewalls etc) can you outline the exact setup from your pc to the lady's machine ?
[04:01] <blazer1980> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and it is very slow to login... I see the wallpaper but it takes one minute to bring AWN and the panels
[04:01] <test34> elementzero, try xubuntu, it comes with xfce
[04:01] <elementzero> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.53-driver.html
[04:01] <elementzero> these?
[04:01] <masen> blazer1980: specs?
[04:01] <typemore> are xeon and i7's interchangebale for motherboard slots?
[04:02] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  On my end ... I would be going through a router and then a modem ... and on her end her system is connected directly to the mediacom modem
[04:02] <detrix> Hi all. How do I permanently mount a new hard drive?  What do I have to add to the /etc/fstab file?
[04:02] <masen> hou5ton: you are in a very good position then
[04:02] <mmoebius> hou5ton: then her machine has a publicly adressable ip. Hopefully she's got a personal firewall installed
[04:02] <brophat> the download at the ubuntu site is too long
[04:03] <masen> wouldn't the personal firewall ask to block/unblock when ultra first starts
[04:03] <blazer1980> masen: I am using linux version 2.6.32-24 generic
[04:03] <masen> blazer1980: system specs?
[04:03] <alazyworkaholic> I'm trying to download (streaming?) videos with firefox from the website "livestream.com" They're each over an hour long so I'd rather not have to wait to play each one then sift through /tmp once they've played. The "videodownloadhelper" extension is of no use & the video isn't in Tools - Page Info - Media either. Any ideas on how I can download this type of media?
[04:03] <mmoebius> hou5ton: In theory you can then  use ultravnc in the standard mode. The server, serving her screen to you is listening for connections. Use a secure password (use e.g. 'pwgen 15'
[04:03] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  masen:  not sure about the personal firewall ... I need to check that, but I am pretty sure she does ... and I know that mediacom has a dynamic ip, not a static one
[04:03] <mmoebius> )
[04:04] <masen> dynamic IP is easily addressed with something like dyndns.org
[04:04] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Then you'll want to install a dynamic dns service like (I just don't know better) dyndns
[04:04] <blazer1980> masen: Thinkpad X60s, 2GB memory, 100GB harddrive, /home, /boot on separate partition
[04:05] <mmoebius> hou5ton: and you' ll have to open her firewall for outside conenctions to ultravnc. Better choose a non-default poirt isf you can
[04:05] <alazyworkaholic> supposedly a windows program called replay media catcher would do it, but I only have Linux.
[04:05] <masen> blazer1980: was it previously fast, or has it always been slow since installation?
[04:05] <wasnik> installed netbook but resolution is too high hence cannot move cursor to the system icon to change resolution please help
[04:05] <brophat> isn't there a torrent site for it?
[04:05] <brophat> download says it will take one day and 6 hours to download
[04:05] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Then , you can connect with ultravnc e.g. to elderlady.dyndns.org::5966 and  there it goes
[04:05] <brophat> any faster ways?
[04:06] <elementzero> test34: figured out how to mount the filesystem and the xorg.conf was there. i was looking at my live cd.
[04:06] <elementzero> test34: anyways, i'm going to install xubuntu and see if the nvidia drivers work these