[00:05] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys ivegot a sudden problem
[00:05] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> can someone help me right away?
[00:06] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i plugged an hard disk to watch a movies
[00:06] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> first it doesnt let me download any file from this hard disk
[00:06] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> second i was watching the movie from the hard disk and at some point it just stopped and didnt go ahead
[00:09] <ForgeAus> back... (ForgeAus here)
[00:10] <ForgeAus> anyway... I think my grub is fixed, but it doesn't load my fstab :( can I just replace that ugly UUID with /dev/sdb2?
[00:10] <ForgeAus> it doesn't want to mount it
[00:11] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  yes you can replace uuid with  the actual device
[00:11] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> Dr_willis: could you help me?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> of course if you mvoe drive around a lot - this can cause issues...
[00:11] <kitty_> whats the problem strawberry?
[00:12] <ForgeAus> so this should be the fstab line?
[00:12] <ForgeAus> /dev/sdb2 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[00:12] <ForgeAus> (stupid linux filesystems starting with the command character :) lol
[00:12] <ForgeAus> (note that was a joke not so much a complaint)
[00:13] <kitty_> close enough, but is ro right?
[00:13] <ForgeAus> hehe just that in IRC it thinks a line starting with / is a command hehe
[00:13] <ForgeAus> kitty READ it...
[00:13] <ForgeAus> it doesn't just say ro it says errors=remount-ro
[00:13] <kitty_> yeah it is, nm
[00:14] <ForgeAus> (ie if it can't mount it rw, and causes an error, then mounti t ro mode? thats what I'm interpretting it as anyway)
[00:14] <kitty_> yeah
[00:15] <ForgeAus> although I was at first suspicious like you since my initial problem was the whole unable to write to that ICE thingy
[00:15] <ForgeAus> so I think if anything I'm likely back to where I began if this doesn't work
[00:15] <ForgeAus> guess its time to try again
[00:15] <kitty_> have you tried unmounting then remounting it with just mount /dev/sdb2 ?
[00:16] <ForgeAus> uh you mean from the live CD or from the HDD?
[00:16] <kitty_> oh
[00:16] <ForgeAus> can't do that from HDD coz / is on it, no way to unmount right?
[00:16] <ForgeAus> from the live CD I can mount it rw now
[00:16] <ForgeAus> not sure why that wasn't working earlier it just decided to give me a break
[00:17] <kitty_> wasn't sure if you were chroot or something, i'll try to read better next time
[00:17] <ForgeAus> so you think retry it? or any better suggestions?
[00:17] <kitty_> try it in chroot and see if it'll mount
[00:17] <kitty_> and be r/w
[00:17] <ForgeAus> ok
[00:18] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about chroot what do I do again?
[00:18] <ForgeAus> chroot /dev/sdb2/ (since thats where the root is)
[00:18] <ForgeAus> ???
[00:18] <kitty_> chroot /media/whereitsat/ bash ?
[00:19] <ForgeAus> uh ok
[00:20] <kitty_> you'll beable to tell right away if you have r/w access to it as root then
[00:20] <ForgeAus> uh what am I meant to do here? seems to be working
[00:20] <ForgeAus> definitely the right filesystem
[00:21] <ForgeAus> what do you mean I already had rw access to it from the liveCD tho
[00:21] <ForgeAus> hows that prove anything?
[00:21] <kitty_> try it with a reboot then
[00:21] <ForgeAus> ok thx for ur help :)
[00:22] <ForgeAus> much more cushy in chroot since I have mc to use :)
[00:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> anybody can help? im getting crazy
[00:22] <ForgeAus> wait options = defaults, what if defaults=ro?
[00:23] <ForgeAus> strawberry, if you don't ask what your problem is how can anyone answer that?
[00:23] <Dr_willis> mc is a top 10 item - of things i always install on a clean install
[00:24] <Dr_willis> I belive strawbeRRy_fieLd  has issues with automounting of external hard drives... I just alwyas mount the things manually... because im hard-kore. :)
[00:24] <ForgeAus> Drwillis, thats great, but running from a liveCD is a different story hehe imho it should already have been on there :)
[00:24] <jose__> what is mc?
[00:24] <ForgeAus> jose midnight commander
[00:24] <ForgeAus> (like the dos  program norton commander)
[00:24] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  i like to remaster the livecd's to incluide mc. :)
[00:24] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[00:24] <jose__> ah ok, mc
[00:24] <ForgeAus> hehe lol dr willis :)
[00:24] <jose__> !info mc
[00:25] <ForgeAus> out of curiousity whast the other 9?
[00:25] <Dr_willis> You can even set up mc, to run from a xterm, or console,  to launch apps for file types like the normal filemanager does.
[00:25] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  short list... vim-full, mc,  unp, screen, sshserver,    and a few otehr tools.
[00:26] <Dr_willis> I got a script i made that apt-get installs a few dozen+ things. :)
[00:26] <jose__> Ive just installed kubuntu 8.04.1, anybody knows if it is worth to get KDE4?
[00:26] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> Dr_willis: i think you are right, can u help please?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> strawbeRRy_fieLd, if its a ntfs filesystem. it could be the drive is flagged as being needing chedked.. or some other issue. this is why i always mount things manually. to see any error messages.
[00:27] <iCEifer> hello, anyone here use audacity? I cannot record from the output from my sound card. I can't see "mix" of any kind under kmix either and selecting various inputs & outputs in audacity doesn't work?
[00:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i plugged this external hard disk, and kubuntu first saw it but when i try to copy a movie from the hard disk to my hard disk it does it for a bit and then it stops telling me it's impossible to read
[00:27] <Dr_willis> strawbeRRy_fieLd,  so the top Question is - what 'filesystem' is the external drive.
[00:27] <ForgeAus> external USB I havn't got any experience with... I would have thought it was a /dev/ somewhere along the line
[00:27] <Dr_willis> strawbeRRy_fieLd,  that sounds like the drive may be going bad.. or some odd usb disconnexct issue
[00:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i think its a ntfs
[00:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> can u help me in mounting it manually?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' will show all drives seen by the system. 'dmesg' will give any error messages about that disk also.
[00:28] <ForgeAus> strawberry then fusemount it :)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> You need to learn its filesystem and its exact device
[00:28] <Dr_willis> since its working.. then quit.. thats not a good sign.
[00:29] <ForgeAus> dr willis, in fstab what sets default options (ermwhat I mean is how can I tell if default options = rw?)
[00:29] <Dr_willis> rw should be default for most filesystems ForgeAus
[00:29] <Dr_willis> the man pages for mount and fstab. have secific sections for different filesystems.
[00:30] <ForgeAus> previously I just had defaults (but I don't think it was mounting in r/w mode since kdm couldn't write to some .ICE file thingy
[00:30] <Dr_willis> ntfs is a noteable exceptipn to this. :)
[00:30] <ForgeAus> its ext3
[00:30] <ForgeAus> yeah thats what worries me
[00:30] <Dr_willis> with ext3. defaults are RW/ its very likely its the specific permissions of the file/dir in question thats the problem
[00:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36332/
[00:30] <ForgeAus> I would have expected default to be rw too
[00:30] <ForgeAus> :(
[00:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36333/
[00:31] <ForgeAus> ok crossing fingers and rebooting, hopefully will be back from within HHD kubuntu instead of liveCD!
[00:31] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> this are my pastebins, could u red them and tell me what i have to do? thank u
[00:32] <Dr_willis> strawbeRRy_fieLd,  well that narrows it down a bit.. but we still cant tell which one is the external drive.  looks like you got 3 identically sized drives. (320gb) a 1 gb, and a 73gb
[00:32] <Dr_willis> I would guess that /dev/sde1 is the external drives filesystem.. unless you got more then 1 external hard drive
[00:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes it is that one
[00:34] <Dr_willis> you could mount the thign manually with the following commands... (i gotta look them up)
[00:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright
[00:34] <ImpButters> Could anyone give me a hint on how to add group permission to a folder? I keep checking the manual but all I'm getting is chgrp, unsure if that is the command I'm after
[00:34] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir /media/sde1
[00:35] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sde1 /media/sde1
[00:35] <kitty_> its chown
[00:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ive done it and nothing happened in the terminal, does it mean it mounted it?
[00:35] <kitty_> impbutters chown -r
[00:35] <kitty_> you can have multiple groups iirc
[00:35] <Dr_willis> It means  you jumpped the gun.. :) the mountpoint MUST exist first.. then the 2nd command mounts it...
[00:35] <Guest81261> hotmail.com
[00:36] <Dr_willis> strawbeRRy_fieLd,  i am basicaly rephrasing the info at http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.ntfs-3g if you want to bookmark/read that site for future referance
[00:36] <ImpButters> Thank you kitty_, what if I want several groups as owners? Any other parameters to chown?
[00:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the thing is thanks to your commands it made mount it
[00:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but as it happened before when i try to copy the file/movie it lets me copy it till a certain amount of bytes but then it stops
[00:37] <kitty_> use the -reference=RFILE option
[00:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> and it says "cant read from the file"
[00:37] <kitty_> its explained better in the manual (man chown)
[00:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i dont get it
[00:37] <kitty_> you could always try the right click in nautilus and properties it
[00:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i use kubuntu
[00:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i have dolphin
[00:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> not nautilus
[00:38] <ryansmith> I can't seem to create users using Kuser  and the new KDE 4.1 packages. Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[00:39] <ryansmith> I can launch it and it looks like it goes through the process okay
[00:39] <ryansmith> but nothing gets saved
[00:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright thank you guys for ur help
[00:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ill leave it for now
[00:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> bye
[00:40] <eagles0513875> how to i flush dns
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Jiggle the Handel?
[00:43] <Dr_willis> :P
[00:45] <eagles0513875> how do i flush dns
[00:45] <eagles0513875> !dns
[00:46] <mani213> yo how do i fix my resolution
[00:46] <mani213> the picture doesnt fix properly on my monitor
[00:46] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[00:47] <Dr_willis> For most of my machines. I have to install the proper nvidia drivers.. then the system starts using the proper monitor res.
[00:47] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: how do i clear my dns cache
[00:47] <Dr_willis> would someone care to check at the following site and see if the video plays for them in firefox (or other browsers) it was working the other day.. and stopped working yesterday for me   http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=649539296&pid=g0LIkE6vpnuKMFZKCrJySZH_LFIlCNV2&play=true
[00:48] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  no idea. I rarely have to mess with the dns stuff I dont recall ever chearing the dns cache
[00:48] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  a fast google search for 'clear dns cache linux' gives  http://www.techiecorner.com/35/how-to-flush-dns-cache-in-linux-windows-mac/
[00:48] <eagles0513875> thing is im not able to get to my routers web interface and im wired to it
[00:49] <ForgeAus> back again
[00:49] <ForgeAus> tried a few things nothing worked, getting KDM but can't log in
[00:49] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  ive seen some flakey routers in the past.. try poweringoff the router/back on.
[00:50] <ForgeAus> still gives me: no write access to: /home/spike/.ICEauthority
[00:50] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  or /etc/init.d/network restart  pashaps
[00:50] <nejode> ForgeAus: did you run an fsck on your / directory?
[00:50] <eagles0513875> that restarts the network
[00:50] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  yes it does...
[00:50] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis: this is a linksys router
[00:50] <ForgeAus> uh guess I should
[00:50] <ForgeAus> you mean reboot from live CD again?
[00:51] <eagles0513875> i was told by guys at linksys themselves tha ti need a firmware upgrade thing is i cant get to webinterface
[00:51] <nejode> yes, and run fsck.ext3 /dev/sXX
[00:51] <ForgeAus> :( ext3 seems flakey :(...
[00:52] <ForgeAus> if thats whats wrong with it
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Ive had MUCH more problems with ntfs/vfat then i have with ext2/3
[00:53] <ForgeAus> hehe you might but I havn't
[00:53] <nejode> ..if there are any inode errors it will remount ro
[00:53] <Dr_willis> You did try just removing the .ICE* file if you can?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> remounting RO if errors are found.. is a very 'good' idea. :)   if you value the rest of the data
[00:53] <ForgeAus> dr willis will try taht next, fsck first
[00:53] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  gee.. that would of ben the first thing id' tried. :P
[00:54] <ForgeAus> (can't too 10 things at once unfortunately
[00:54] <ForgeAus> (not yet as far as multi-tasking environment)
[00:54] <ForgeAus> fsck takes lotsa time
[00:54] <ForgeAus> and its annoying having to to begin with
[00:54] <Dr_willis> ls -al .ICEauthority
[00:54] <Dr_willis> -rw------- 1 willis willis 7419 2008-08-10 07:14 .ICEauthority
[00:54] <Dr_willis> fscking my 500gb hd takes about 4 min perhaps...
[00:55] <Dr_willis> 'formating' a 500gb hd under windows... for the first tiem.. now that takes a lot of time.. :)
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ext2/3 formating same drive takes just a min or 2. vs a hr or 2 :P
[00:56] <nejode> eagles0513875: that usually happens when there's problems with the dhcp server and your machine's IP is in another range as your router
[00:56] <ForgeAus> uh fsck just come back clean
[00:56] <ForgeAus> it didn't even seemt o do a scan
[00:56] <ForgeAus> as for .ice authority mounting it now to check
[00:56] <Dr_willis> it has force options.. I would try deleting that .ICE* file now. to see if you can
[00:57] <mani213> man it doesnt work
[00:57] <mani213> my monitors more messed up
[00:57] <mani213> now
[00:57] <mani213> i see half of the screen
[00:57] <mani213> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[00:57] <mani213> i type that right?
[00:57] <inbitado34> how do i add a folder as a plasmoid in the kde 4.1 desktop ?
[00:58] <ForgeAus> uh its root root not user user
[01:00] <ForgeAus> should the perms for .ICEauthority be the user or the root?
[01:00] <ForgeAus> (I still think the disk is mounted readonly)
[01:01] <ForgeAus> coz kdm is meant to run as root right?
[01:02] <nejode> .ICEauthority should be owned by the user, but even so... what does that have to do with it getting mounted ro?
[01:02] <ForgeAus> ok I'll chown it?
[01:03] <lunch> in dhcp3 server, how to kill leased ips without restarting dhcp server?
[01:03] <nejode> mine> -rw-------   1 nelson nelson     1528 2008-08-10 16:10 .ICEauthority
[01:04] <ForgeAus> grrr now it won't let me chroot :(
[01:05] <nejode> of course, it's ro
[01:05] <Dr_willis> why do you need to chroot? You can just mount the filesystem, and delete the file
[01:07] <ForgeAus> what should have done that?
[01:07] <ForgeAus> hmmm...
[01:07] <ForgeAus> well its done now
[01:12] <ForgeAus> the chown seems to have worked :) all fixed
[01:12] <ForgeAus> at least its logging in
[01:18] <_tonehog> anyone have experience with Amarok's Last.FM features? I have some questions about it.
[01:35] <mathieu__> .
[01:35] <metalman> how use the update icon
[01:35] <coreymon77> ..
[01:35] <coreymon77> click on it
[01:36] <metalman> cant find it
[01:36] <coreymon77> then there is nothing to update
[01:37] <metalman> the icon was thare but i cancel it now i cant find it
[01:56] <MermaidMan> is kubuntu changing release schedals?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> not that i have heard. but Kubuntu does seem to be a bit more flexiable then Ubuntu
[01:59] <MermaidMan> hmm
[02:00] <MermaidMan> Im torn bewteen gnome and kde
[02:00] <Dr_willis> theres no 'or' :) you can have both on the same system
[02:00] <Dr_willis> use what you like. Mixx and match.. change every other day
[02:03] <MermaidMan> is kde 4.1 in backports or only launchpad
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Not in backports yet I think.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> check the kde4.1 channel
[02:03] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[02:03] <MermaidMan> k
[02:05] <MermaidMan> so what does it mean kubuntu is built off of ubuntu?
[02:05] <MermaidMan> Just the kernel?
[02:10] <Dr_willis> The core of 'kubuntu' and 'ubuntu' are the same.. the desktop default is the main differance
[02:11] <Dr_willis> and a few other little default/installed apps.
[02:18] <concernedcitizen> hey guys, which packages have the xorg headers?
[02:25] <oakbox> hi all, Im having some bad problems with grub and a duel boot xp and ubuntu can anyone spare some time?
[02:26] <oakbox> currently working off a live CD and need to get at least windows booting again :(
[02:28] <K`zan> Anyone know of something that will import the output from iptables-save and let you work with it.  fwbuilder does but the file I am trying to import has multiple rules and it doesn't support that :-9.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> I thought iptables-save just generated a bunch of command lines you could edit with any editor.
[02:29] <K`zan> Heh, that assumes on has a clue :).
[02:30] <K`zan> I've been using ipkungfu which has worked perfectly for me for some years now.  Planning on dropping the PC server and going to a linux applience running OPENWRT.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> I dont even have any iptables rules. :) to play with
[02:31] <geek_> K`zan: good idea, for just routing a linux appliance uses less power ;p
[02:31] <K`zan> used iptables-save to get them out (about 10K worth) and openwrt runs iptables/
[02:31] <concernedcitizen> which package should I install to get xorg headers?
[02:31] <K`zan> Yep, been running tomato for some time but my wireless guru recommended the freewrt.
[02:31] <Dr_willis> 10K ? thats quite a few rules aint it.
[02:32] <K`zan> Yep, but the firewall does everything I want / need very easily with ipkungfu.  Whatever it does it makes me happy :)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> concernedcitizen,  a 'apt-cache search xorg | grep dev' has a lot of possibliities.. one which stands out is.....
[02:32] <Dr_willis> xserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files
[02:33] <iCEifer> anyone here use audacity?
[02:33] <concernedcitizen> ah thanks, I was always wondering how to search through a repos.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> grep is our friend. :)
[02:33] <concernedcitizen> no, I didn't know the command apt-cache exist :P
[02:34] <concernedcitizen> oh one more thing, is it possible to get the kubuntu sound system to use xine?
[02:34] <concernedcitizen> I'm using an external DAC, and for some reason, it just won't work for system sounds
[02:34] <K`zan> kmyfirewall is a no go...
[02:34] <concernedcitizen> and my Kaffine Player can output it fine
[02:37] <Jucato> !info kde-style-lipstik | concernedcitizen
[02:38] <Dr_willis> !apt | concernedcitizen
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Time to read the apt-get manual. :)
[02:39] <Jucato> concernedcitizen: you don't need to compile lipstik. just install it
[02:39] <concernedcitizen> I was trying to search for it the whole day and I couldn't find it on apt-get
[02:39] <concernedcitizen> probably cos I didn't know how to list
[02:39] <concernedcitizen> but its cool now, installed.
[02:39] <Dr_willis> in the kde file manager use ' apt://' aslso for a gui. :)
[02:39] <Dr_willis> or was it apt:\\
[02:39] <Jucato> apt:/
[02:39] <Dr_willis> or apt:/  i forget.. :)
[02:40] <Dr_willis> or apt:////////////////////////////////////////////////\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
[02:40] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:40] <concernedcitizen> I used to apt-installer, but it didn't list it
[02:40] <concernedcitizen> when I put lipstik or even xorg-headers (for the headers)
[02:40] <Dr_willis> never heard of 'apt-installer'
[02:40] <Jucato> you mean adept installer (Add/Remove Programs)
[02:40] <concernedcitizen> adept ;p
[02:41] <Jucato> Add/Remove doesn't really list everything. you have to use Adept Manager if you want that
[02:41] <lovely> anyone else having issues with amarok after going to hardy?
[02:41] <concernedcitizen> okay now that lipstik's installed, I hope you bear with me this really stupid question
[02:42] <concernedcitizen> how do I get the theme to run ;p
[02:42] <Jucato> System Settings -> Appearance -> Style
[02:42] <Dr_willis> its not a theme i think its just a window decorator.
[02:42] <Jucato> Dr_willis: widget style
[02:42] <Dr_willis> a 'theme' just defines what parts to use. which are the icon set, colors, widget style, and window decorator. (i think thats right)
[02:43] <Jucato> concernedcitizen: it's not a complete theme. it just changes how widgets (buttons, scrollbars, tabs, etc) look
[02:43] <Dr_willis> I think the term 'theme' gets tossed aroudn wayyyyy too much :) heh
[02:43] <Jucato> Dr_willis: doesn't help that kde-look labels it as Theme/Style for KDE
[02:44] <concernedcitizen> arghhhh
[02:44] <lovely> ooooook does someone know if the amarok site is #amarok?
[02:44] <concernedcitizen> so now I need to get a lipstik theme?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> There is no 'theme' - it one part of what could be a thme.
[02:44] <Jucato> !changethemes | concernedcitizen
[02:45] <lovely> !amarok
[02:45] <Jucato> lovely: it's the amarok channel. the amarok site is http://amarok.kde.org :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> unless of course someone made a companion icon set, and widget, decoration packages. to go with it all
[02:45] <lovely> Jucato: thanks I belive it is the channel I am looking for
[02:46] <fR0StY> anyone know about xrdp?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> !xrdp
[02:51] <mase_work> fR0StY: is it an alternate to krdc ?
[02:51] <utilisateur_> good night
[02:51] <utilisateur_> you are here too
[02:53] <fR0StY> um im not sure
[02:53] <fR0StY> i just installed kubuntu
[02:54] <fR0StY> and i wanted a remote setup so i can learn linux
[02:54] <fR0StY> but i didnt want to install any software on my windows computer
[02:54] <fR0StY> and xrdp is the only thing that uses ms's rdp
[02:55] <Dr_willis> If you want a remote desktop. You can use vnc and its web interface to get to a vncserver/display on the linux box.. but that will be slow
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Not sure if the built in kde 'share the desktop' feature uses rdp or not. I never use it.
[02:56] <mase_work> fR0StY: yeh vnc is probably the easiest or if you need really high performance then nx is the way to go
[02:56] <fR0StY> yah i dont think it does.
[02:56] <mase_work> but i doubt windows will support that out hte box
[02:56] <Dr_willis> windows dont support much out of the box. :P
[02:56] <fR0StY> lol
[02:56] <mase_work> heh true
[02:57] <Dr_willis> another thing to consider.. is this a local lan connection? or over the itnernet?
[02:57] <fR0StY> local
[02:57] <Dr_willis> You may want to check out xming, and enable xdmcp to allow you to run Linux apps and have them appear on the windows desktop.
[02:58] <Dr_willis> but vnc will be easier to get going
[02:58] <mase_work> fR0StY: so the default remote desktop client doesn't support VNC at all ?
[02:58] <fR0StY> you mean the windows? one?
[02:59] <mase_work> i guess, which ever one you have
[02:59] <fR0StY> windows uses RDP
[02:59] <Dr_willis> windows dosent support vnc as far as i know.
[02:59] <fR0StY> yah it doesnt
[02:59] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kuubntu ones support both I think. but i never use rdp
[02:59] <fR0StY> i mean i can install it
[02:59] <mase_work> yeh i use an rdp client to get to a testing machine here with krdc
[03:00] <fR0StY> how to i check with kubuntu or Enable the desktop thing
[03:00] <mase_work> fR0StY: i don't think there would be an rdp server under linux. There is no point, vnc is available and everywhere otherwise if you need performance NX is much better than RDP
[03:01] <fR0StY> but is vnc enabled by default?
[03:02] <mase_work> fR0StY: server you mean ?
[03:02] <fR0StY> no this kubuntu that im running
[03:02] <mase_work> i understand that
[03:02] <mase_work> but do you mean the vnc server or the vnc client ?
[03:02] <oakbox> Hi all, I get Error 5 on my grub loader, what do i do to fix it?
[03:02] <fR0StY> server
[03:03] <sgallinger> !radeon
[03:03] <mase_work> fR0StY: no it won't be enaled by default, however in kcontrol you can invite others to control your desktop, which will enable it
[03:03] <fR0StY> sorry im brand new to linux
[03:04] <mase_work> fR0StY: thats fine. its not really any different to RDP, just a different protocol
[03:04] <mase_work> the architecture is the same though
[03:06] <fR0StY> i guess im just tryin to get xrdp to install but when i run the make command it gives me errors lol
[03:08] <vbmaster> hi
[03:09] <mase_work> fR0StY: how are you installing it ?
[03:09] <mase_work> fR0StY: is it not in the apt repository ?
[03:10] <fR0StY> im not sure mase
[03:10] <fR0StY> lol
[03:10] <nejode> oakbox: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081671.msg106228#msg106228 ... see reply #23
[03:10] <fR0StY> funny thing is. im mcsa and i install a linux box and im totaly lost
[03:12] <oakbox> thanks nejode
[03:13] <fR0StY-afk> bah
[03:13] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, I've known a MSCE who couldn't change his windows wallpaper.. So, I don't really view those qualifications that highly to be honest.
[03:13] <fR0StY-afk> i got dc'ed
[03:13] <fR0StY-afk> heh
[03:13] <fR0StY-afk> thats funny
[03:14] <mase_work> fR0StY: thats  ok, its just a different way of doing things. with Linux you don't need to go out and find programs to install
[03:14] <fR0StY-afk> did i miss anything since i got dc'ed
[03:14] <mase_work> they are all provided by the distro
[03:14] <Ash-Fox> Except for commercial pay software.
[03:14] <mase_work> so you should be able to use the GUI app or apt
[03:14] <mase_work> yes except for non-free and/ or commercial software
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> staroffice is a particular pain to install for novices, thankfully I wrote a little howto.
[03:15] <fR0StY-afk> will i get kicked/banned if i past a url??
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, depends on the content.
[03:15] <nejode> oakbox: you're welcome man, but Grub error 5 is a bad thing :-(
[03:16] <fR0StY-afk> its just the xrdp site on sourceforge
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, I don't see why that would get you kicked.
[03:16] <fR0StY-afk> i wanna see if somone could figured out what im doing wrong
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> !xrdp
[03:16] <fR0StY-afk> http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> xrdp - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server <- I see in the repositories.
[03:17] <oakbox> nejode: im a sucker for bad things :)
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> In universe.
[03:17] <fR0StY-afk> whats the repositries?
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> !adept
[03:17] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, I suggest you read that :)
[03:17] <fR0StY-afk> going that now
[03:18] <fR0StY-afk> thanks for your patience
[03:22] <fR0StY-afk> hey ash i brought up the list of all the things that are not installed  and xrdp isnt on my list
[03:24] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, you didn't enable the universe repositories
[03:24] <fR0StY-afk> oh
[03:24] <sgallinger> hi, my computer is running near 100% memory usage because 64 is for my video, and I only have 512 max
[03:25] <sgallinger> Kinfocenter says that most of the physical mem. is used for disk-cache
[03:25] <sgallinger> 57%
[03:25] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, there should be a check box in adpet -> manage repositories to enable them
[03:25] <sgallinger> is 512 an ok amount, or should I try to lower the disk cache memory usage ?
[03:26] <Ash-Fox> sgallinger, if you find your system is performing fine, there is no need to tweak it.
[03:26] <sgallinger> it seems a little slow
[03:26] <sgallinger> and I set up the radeon driver fine
[03:27] <Ash-Fox> sgallinger, in all honesty, I would recommend you get more RAM.
[03:27] <judgen> how do i replace utf-8 with iso-8859-1
[03:27] <Ash-Fox> judgen, in what?
[03:27] <mase_work> judgen: for what ?
[03:27] <judgen> Ash-Fox: konversation
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> judgen, sorry, I don't use konversation :<
[03:28] <judgen> everything else works fine. just that i cant join any channels with any irc client atm that contains å,ä or ö
[03:28] <nejode> sgallinger: don't lose sleep on that, disk cache is freed as needed, remember, free ram is wasted ram
[03:28] <judgen> ther terminal based ones does not work either.
[03:30] <sgallinger> ahh ok well Im just going to get more ram no probs
[03:30] <sgallinger> 512 is not very much
[03:30] <sgallinger> google earth is slow
[03:32] <judgen> sgallinger: i remember when i thought 64kb or ram was huge =)
[03:32] <sgallinger> yeah.. lol
[03:33] <fR0StY> ash i dont see a checkbox in adpet
[03:33] <sgallinger> Im just comparing this 3.06ghz p4 to my core2duo 2.4ghz with 2gb ram
[03:33] <sgallinger> its like night and day
[03:33] <sgallinger> cant believe I used to think this computer was fast
[03:34] <judgen> yeah sometimes i compare my old atari800iXE to my 2xOpteron 275 with 16gb ram. the boot speed is faster on the Atari. hehe
[03:34] <sgallinger> maybe it was because it only had windows XP on it at the time, now I have kubuntu installed
[03:34] <sgallinger> it came with xp and the proper drivers, ect.
[03:35] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, I don't know what to say. I see them just fine, http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/adept-management-checkboxes
[03:36] <fR0StY> oh yah ok i saw that and it was checked before i went in
[03:36] <fR0StY> but i dont have xrdp in the list
[03:36] <MermaidMan> will kubuntu ever be bloated as vista?
[03:37] <mase_work> MermaidMan: probably
[03:37] <mase_work> one day
[03:37] <mase_work> :)
[03:37] <MermaidMan> mase_work: maybe in 10 years when there will be like 128Bit cpus =D
[03:38] <Ash-Fox> There are already 128bit CPUs.
[03:38] <mase_work> MermaidMan: there already are
[03:38] <MermaidMan> Mainstream cpus like AMD
[03:38] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, with universe enabled, you should be able to find in adept now.
[03:38] <MermaidMan> The playstation 2s cpu is 128bit the emotion engine
[03:38] <Ash-Fox> MermaidMan, Intel makes some 128bit processors.
[03:38] <fR0StY> i put in xrdp in the filter and nothing comes up
[03:38] <Ash-Fox> As does IBM.
[03:39] <mase_work> fR0StY: try doing this from the konsole sudo apt-get install xrdp :)
[03:39] <mase_work> i know its not gui land, but its very simple to explain
[03:39] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, not that won't work if you have adept running.
[03:39] <Ash-Fox> *note
[03:40] <fR0StY> says couldnt find package xrdp
[03:41] <fR0StY> so i must not have it on here?
[03:41] <judgen> MermaidMan: the first 64bit processor was introduced in 1961 =)
[03:41] <mase_work> fR0StY: erm.. its not on your machine its in the repository
[03:41] <mase_work> and it is there
[03:41] <mase_work> amason@amason-desktop:~$ apt-cache search xrdp
[03:41] <mase_work> xrdp - Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server
[03:41] <Ash-Fox> I have a feeling he chose to ignore the update request from adept.
[03:42] <Ash-Fox> Or he didn't tick the checkbox which I told him to.
[03:42] <mase_work> ah yeh
[03:42] <judgen> MermaidMan: IBM intriduced 370 wich is an 128bit cpu in 1970 allready
[03:42] <fR0StY> like i said kubuntu was installed like 2 hrs ago
[03:42] <fR0StY> so you want me to run updates?
[03:42] <fR0StY> and then try?
[03:42] <MermaidMan> judgen: cool
[03:43] <fR0StY> which items on this list do i update Adept?
[03:45] <fR0StY> Ash i did check the box
[03:45] <fR0StY> xrdp isnt in that really long list
[03:46] <fR0StY> so do i need to run updates?
[03:47] <andy_> fux
[03:47] <Ash-Fox> fR0StY, do a, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xrdp
[03:48] <fR0StY> kk
[03:49] <fR0StY> still telling me that it couldnt find package xrdp
[03:50] <flaccid> fR0StY: universe repos must be enabled
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> flaccid, he insists that he did enable it.
[03:51] <flaccid> oops ok. fetch updates first then?
[03:52] <flaccid> fR0StY: run apt-cache madison xrdp to see if its in your local list
[03:52] <fR0StY> i opened the adept manager then clicked on adept>Manage Repos everything is checked under the tab Kubuntu Software
[03:52] <fR0StY> including (universe) one
[03:52] <DevilLord2k> I have a Quickcam pro4000 and i can't seem to get it to work.. help?
[03:54] <fR0StY> Flaccid: apt-cache madison xrdp is that all i type in the terminal?
[03:54] <flaccid> fR0StY: yeah
[03:55] <flaccid> !webcam | DevilLord2k
[03:55] <mase_work> DevilLord2k: i don't have one of those devices my self, but what are you trying  ? what have you done so far, which bit doesn't work
[03:56] <fR0StY> flaccid it just returns the prompt doesnt give me a error or a message
[03:56] <rodolfo> Una consulta
[03:56] <flaccid> fR0StY: its not in your list then. sudo apt-get update and if its still not there, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <DevilLord2k> the pwc driver is loaded, but it's not creating a video dev
[03:57] <flaccid> DevilLord2k: what does it say in dmesg when you load the pwc mod?
[03:58] <DevilLord2k> [ 6977.297073] usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3[ 6977.402536] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[03:58] <DevilLord2k> that's what happends when i plug it in
[03:58] <fR0StY> flaccid: when i type (pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list) in  the terminal it gives me a command not found
[03:58] <mr---t-> !paste
[03:59] <fR0StY> o
[03:59] <flaccid> DevilLord2k: nah sudo rmmod pwc, then sudo modprobe pwc then check what is put in dmesg
[04:00] <DevilLord2k> just hang on a sec. think i might have gotten it.. my computer guru with me is embarrassed he didnt think of this...
[04:01] <fR0StY> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36371/
[04:01] <fR0StY> there yah go
[04:01] <wishie> is KDE 3.5.x still going to be an option in Intepid when it comes out ? For the people that dont want to move to KDE 4.x yet ?
[04:02] <DevilLord2k> flaccid: [ 7021.305153] Linux video capture interface: v2.00[ 7021.325395] pwc: Philips webcam module version 10.0.13 loaded.[ 7021.325399] pwc: Supports Philips PCA645/646, PCVC675/680/690, PCVC720[40]/730/740/750 & PCVC830/840.[ 7021.325401] pwc: Also supports the Askey VC010, various Logitech Quickcams, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30,[ 7021.325403] pwc: the Creative WebCam 5 & Pro Ex, SOTEC Afina Eye and Visionite VCS-UC300 and VCS-
[04:02] <DevilLord2k> river Philips webcam
[04:02] <flaccid> wishie: #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <DevilLord2k> still doesnt work..
[04:02] <MermaidMan> how do i get to Kmail?
[04:02] <DevilLord2k> sorry for the long post.
[04:03] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[04:03] <flaccid> !info xrdp gutsy
[04:03] <flaccid> !info xrdp hardy
[04:03] <flaccid> fR0StY: its not in gutsy.
[04:03] <ForgeAus> I think http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives is out of date, I mean Xubuntu surely qualifies as Officially suported by now
[04:03] <ForgeAus> Fluxbuntu and Elbuntu are two interesting ones to recognise tho :)
[04:04] <fR0StY> ok so how hard would it be to install xrdp from the website or should i just upgrade my kubuntu?
[04:05] <DevilLord2k> flaccid:  any ideas?
[04:05] <flaccid> DevilLord2k: not yet
[04:05] <flaccid> fR0StY: your choice
[04:06] <DevilLord2k> flaccid:  any other info you need?
[04:06] <flaccid> nope
[04:06] <fR0StY> well can i upgrade from this install or do i need to get a updated iso? and start over?
[04:06] <flaccid> !upgrade | fR0StY yes
[04:07] <asobi> upgrade takes longer than install :/
[04:08] <fR0StY> well being that im on dialup where the linux cpu is it is best to just download a iso when im at work?
[04:09] <flaccid> fR0StY: yeah the dvd or alternate so you get the debs
[04:09] <gecko_>
[04:09] <fR0StY> stick with kubuntu or go with ubuntu?
[04:09] <flaccid> kubuntu of course :)
[04:10] <fR0StY> hehe
[04:10] <fR0StY> ok
[04:10] <flaccid> fR0StY: are you on i386?
[04:10] <fR0StY> yes
[04:11] <flaccid> fR0StY: download the hardy deb and try to install it. it has minimal deps, you might be lucky: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/xrdp/download
[04:11] <gecko_> flaccid: switched interfaces, this is DevilLord2k..
[04:11] <concernedcitizen> hey guys, I'm having trouble configuring my external usb DAC (soundcard)
[04:11] <concernedcitizen> I just cant seem to get the system to output through the usb
[04:11] <concernedcitizen> instead of the onboard soundcard
[04:11] <concernedcitizen> is there anything I should be doing?
[04:12] <flaccid> ForgeAus: maybe try to let somenoe know about that derivatives page
[04:12] <flaccid> !enter | concernedcitizen
[04:12] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: is your driver for the card working?
[04:13] <concernedcitizen> my apologies. Err, there's no drivers for it
[04:13] <flaccid> ah i wouldn't expect it to work at all then :(
[04:14] <concernedcitizen> errr, it did work for a while
[04:14] <fR0StY> flaccid ok i installed it
[04:15] <concernedcitizen> and then for some strange reason, it didn't work now.
[04:15] <flaccid> fR0StY: cool
[04:15] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: pastebin aplay -l
[04:16] <fR0StY> woot xrdp is in my adept manager list now
[04:16] <concernedcitizen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36373/
[04:18] <fR0StY> flaccid now let me ask another stupid question heh... where do i go to configure it lol
[04:18] <flaccid> fR0StY: i've never used it sorry
[04:19] <flaccid> try the wiki and google (as always)
[04:20] <concernedcitizen> it detects my usb audio
[04:20] <fR0StY> yah im on google now
[04:21] <concernedcitizen> just that I don't know how to configure the system to use it
[04:21] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/default-sound-card-in-ubuntu-564006/
[04:21] <flaccid> i'd make it default card then check kmix and alsamixer
[04:27] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: thanks. I was quite looking forward not to reboot my system though :(
[04:28] <flaccid> you need to reboot?
[04:31] <concernedcitizen> the instructions said so
[04:32] <flaccid> i guess they didn't know how to do it without rebooting or something
[04:32] <bdizzle> quick question. In Adept, if you click on it to request a package to be installed, and it changes to a red "Break," what does that mean?
[04:32] <flaccid> bdizzle: it means that installing it breaks the deps or something
[04:33] <bdizzle> ...installing amarok breaks the dependencies?
[04:33] <bdizzle> on a KDE system?
[04:33] <flaccid> bdizzle: "Possible reasons are broken dependencies (a package on which it depends doesn't have a version available for download) or new dependencies (the package has come to depend on new packages since the last version)."
[04:33] <bdizzle> hmm, okay
[04:33] <flaccid> its usually related to badly maintained pkg or repos conflict
[04:34] <flaccid> bdizzle: do the operation from konsole with apt-get and you will see what the problem is
[04:34] <fR0StY> flaccid thanks so much for your time. i didnt get to configure it but i DID get it installed yay! but for now i off to bed
[04:35] <flaccid> fR0StY: cool. yeah im sure there is lots on google and the xrdp homepage
[04:35] <bdizzle> it claims package is not available, but it referred to by another package. Package amarok has no installation candidate
[04:35] <flaccid> fR0StY: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[04:35] <flaccid> bdizzle: apt-cache policy amarok (or apt-cache madison amarok)
[04:35] <fR0StY> yah i think i have to edit files but im not sure how to start the service
[04:35] <fR0StY> or whatever
[04:36] <bdizzle> copy paste?
[04:36] <flaccid> fR0StY: i can help later or now if you need
[04:36] <flaccid> bdizzle: pastebin if you want both of those commands
[04:36] <fR0StY> well if you have time i can do it now if you want
[04:36] <flaccid> ok then i'll install it
[04:36] <bdizzle> Installed: (none)    Candidate:  (none)   Version table: 2:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3+medibunty1 0   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:37] <flaccid> bdizzle: if you pastebin the whole of the two commands that will get closure for us
[04:38] <bdizzle> yeah, the second command did nothing
[04:39] <flaccid> fR0StY: i just installed it and it runs from installation, otherwise sudo /etc/init.d/xrdp start
[04:40] <fR0StY> ok so how to i configure it
[04:40] <fR0StY> hehe
[04:40] <flaccid> fR0StY: config is in /etc/xrdp/xrdp.ini and /etc/xrdp/sesman.ini
[04:40] <bdizzle> if I remember correctly, I was having a lot of problems and probably broke a lot of dependencies, include KDE core
[04:40] <MermaidMan> wats the dragons name?
[04:40] <flaccid> bdizzle: something doesn't seem right
[04:40] <flaccid> MermaidMan: konqi
[04:41] <MermaidMan> lol
[04:42] <bdizzle> I know, I've had problems with it since I did a fresh install
[04:43] <bdizzle> and then started trying to get internet to work and had to install things from .deb files everywhere
[04:43] <flaccid> why?
[04:43] <bdizzle> um, remember a week ago I couldn't connect to the internet thanks to a java applet to install a windows program to authenticate to server?
[04:44] <draik> Hello all
[04:44] <draik> What app can I use to create an animation?
[04:44] <draik> I have a few images (drawings) that I want to animate.
[04:44] <bdizzle> yeah, well, I'm back on that desktop again, but I brought along my Linksys USB network adapter to get it to connect to the wireless network, which it did
[04:44] <bdizzle> but now its just like, wow, how badly did I mess this up?
[04:44] <MermaidMan> wats a good audio editior?
[04:45] <flaccid> bdizzle: um i don't know what you have done to break 'stuff'. still im happy to help with specific questions
[04:45] <flaccid> !info audacity | MermaidMan
[04:45] <bdizzle> okay, for example
[04:46] <bdizzle> its running KDE 3.5, but there are some KDE4 programs scattered around that need the kde4libs. When I try to install it, it says "Break (install)"
[04:47] <flaccid> bdizzle: yes, so this is why im waiting for your pastebin to help. pasting your sources is a good idea too
[04:47] <bdizzle> yeah, I can't get onto IRC from that computer, so I'm having to copy paste it over
[04:47] <bdizzle> okay, what did you want me to pastebin, and what is the link for it again?
[04:49] <fR0StY> flaccid ok so now i got my windows rdp to connect to the linuxbox but it fails when i put my username and password in for the box or is this something i have to define in the ini files?
[04:49] <flaccid> bdizzle: you could use pastebinit then
[04:49] <flaccid> bdizzle: [13:35] <flaccid> bdizzle: apt-cache policy amarok (or apt-cache madison amarok)
[04:49] <bdizzle> I thought I did. Hold on
[04:49] <flaccid> fR0StY: looks like it yes. its a good idea to look at them
[04:50] <bdizzle> !pastebin
[04:51] <bdizzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36385/
[04:52] <flaccid> bdizzle: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit -b http://rafb.net/paste /etc/apt/sources.list  (for example)
[04:53] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: what was the madison result?
[04:55] <bdizzle_laptop> okay, um, that's not working
[04:55] <bdizzle_desktop> okay, on the desktop now
[04:55] <bdizzle_desktop> the madison?
[04:55] <fR0StY> flaccid happen to know where the logs are?
[04:55] <bdizzle_desktop> madison did nothing
[04:55] <bdizzle_desktop> it just returned me back to the prompt
[04:55] <fR0StY> said stoped because some error
[04:55] <flaccid> bdizzle_desktop: [13:35] <flaccid> bdizzle: apt-cache policy amarok (or apt-cache madison amarok)
[04:55] <flaccid> bdizzle_desktop: main repos is not enabled!
[04:56] <flaccid> !info amarok | bdizzle_desktop amarok is in main..
[04:56] <flaccid> no wonder it breaks
[04:56] <bdizzle_laptop> okay
[04:56] <flaccid> fR0StY: i don't know
[04:56] <bdizzle_laptop> alright, so adept isn't letting me update them. Time for command line
[04:56] <bdizzle_laptop> um, walk me through that please?
[04:57] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: goto adept and disable and the repos in manage repos. then go back to it and re-enable them
[04:57] <kalorin_> anyone know how to make a panel in kde 4.1 go up and down the left side of the screen rather than right to left?
[04:58] <flaccid> kalorin_: wrong channel, see topic
[04:58] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: i mean disable all then re-enable
[04:58] <bdizzle_laptop> yeah, adept is messed up on the repos
[04:59] <bdizzle_laptop> its essentially showing me the sources.list file
[04:59] <bdizzle_laptop> not the gui interface to be able to enable / disable
[04:59] <flaccid> not sure what you mean
[05:00] <gkffjcs> when using the locate command is there a way to specify that you only want to search a specific directory or part of the tree starting at a specific directory?
[05:01] <flaccid> gkffjcs: i think so. see man locate (first couple of options should be relevant)
[05:01] <bdizzle_laptop> you know when you click on manage repositories, the software sources box comes up with the tabs to select things?
[05:02] <bdizzle_laptop> it doesn't give me that. It gives me essentially the sources.list file with the option of rightclick to enable / disable
[05:03] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: which release is this?
[05:03] <bdizzle_laptop> I think its 8.04.1
[05:03] <bdizzle_laptop> how can I check to be sure?
[05:04] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: lsb_release -a
[05:04] <bdizzle_laptop> yeah, its 8.04.1
[05:05] <flaccid> pastebin your sources.list and i wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of this and also confirm your adept manager version
[05:06] <bdizzle_laptop> hold on a moment, the connection is slow on the desktop and I have to somehow reconnect it to the server
[05:07] <bdizzle_> okay, on the desktop now
[05:07] <bdizzle_laptop> where is sources.list located? its been a while since I've had to play with it
[05:08] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <bdizzle_laptop> hold on
[05:09] <bdizzle_> !pastebin
[05:09] <bdizzle_laptop> its trying to load the headers to fetch updates and its taking forever
[05:10] <flaccid> can take a while yes and depend on the servers/mirros
[05:12] <bdizzle_laptop> in the meantime, is there a way to just clone my kubuntu partition on my laptop and have it overwrite the kubuntu partition on my desktop?
[05:13] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: yes but i don't feel comfortable in helping with that, its a bit ridiculous
[05:13] <bdizzle_laptop> ah, okay
[05:14] <bdizzle_laptop> does kubuntu have some sort of backup / restore program perhaps? or does it require that the files already be on the computer to be restored?
[05:14] <TeslaTony> bdizzle_laptop: You can copy your home directory pretty easily, which will bring all the settings and program defaults, just not the programs or drivers
[05:14] <flaccid> !backup | bdizzle_laptop
[05:14] <flaccid> imaging like that always is not a simple as it seems. /home is the only thing that is actually portable in that respect
[05:15] <TeslaTony> bdizzle_laptop: I use SimpleBackup. It has a nice interface that works well for me
[05:15] <bdizzle_laptop> ah, I need the programs and drivers as well
[05:16] <Reformer81> Is there any way to create a screen cast recording beginning at the login screen?
[05:16] <bunso> hi
[05:17] <TeslaTony> bdizzle_laptop:  Your drivers won´t really port between the two computers right, though
[05:17] <bdizzle_laptop> is APTonCD automated?
[05:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> Reformer81: probably in a vm
[05:18] <bdizzle_laptop> I think that caused a lot of the problems the first time around, that I was just randomly trying to go through everything and it messed things up
[05:18] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: its always good to do things the 'right' way to avoid issues
[05:18] <bdizzle_laptop> heh
[05:20] <Reformer81> Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah, that's what I'm hearing in #Ubuntu as well.  I wanted to record Compiz too and that obviously doesn't work within a vm
[05:20] <TeslaTony> bdizzle_laptop: What are you trying to do?
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> Reformer81: the main reason it would be an issue is the transition from gdm to your desktop environment
[05:21] <Reformer81> Daisuke_Laptop: How about screen shots of the login screen then?  Probably again only possible through VM?
[05:21] <bdizzle_laptop> my laptop is also running 8.04.1 and its stable
[05:21] <bdizzle_laptop> my desktop is running 8.04.1 and is not stable, having lots of problems
[05:22] <bdizzle_laptop> it would be really nice if I could just image my current hard drive, use a jump drive (2 GB) to copy everything over to my desktop, then reboot and hope everything works
[05:24] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: i think you understand, but anyway. its much easier to just fix the sources.list and then go from there
[05:24] <bdizzle_laptop> okay
[05:25] <bdizzle_laptop> only I'm having problems connecting using firefox or konqueror to the pastebin because its is running the fetch updates for the first time on the desktop
[05:26] <bdizzle_laptop> I've never seen the connection run this slow
[05:26] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: use patebinit
[05:26] <bdizzle_laptop> pastebininit?
[05:26] <bdizzle_laptop> do I need sudo for that, as I've got adept running and can't quite get out of it
[05:26] <flaccid> [13:52] <flaccid> bdizzle: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit -b http://rafb.net/paste /etc/apt/sources.list  (for example)
[05:26] <flaccid> well you need pastebinit installed. you can cancel adept
[05:27] <MermaidMan> !drm
[05:27] <TeslaTony> If you cancel adept, does it delete the downloaded files?
[05:27] <flaccid> nope
[05:28] <TeslaTony> Okay, so it will cause delays, but nothing too serious
[05:29] <bdizzle_laptop> gah, it claims that the package cannot be found
[05:29] <bdizzle_laptop> E: Couldn't find package pastebinit
[05:30] <TeslaTony> sudo apt-get update
[05:30] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: universe needs to be enabled and obviously updates fetched for it..
[05:31] <bdizzle_laptop> ...that's what I was doing and you told me to stop it
[05:31] <flaccid> like deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main universe restricted multiverse in the sources.list
[05:31] <flaccid> i don't know the state of your apt ..
[05:31] <bdizzle_laptop> yeah, okay
[05:31] <bdizzle_laptop> running sudo apt-get update now
[05:31] <bdizzle_laptop> its going to be a while
[05:31] <flaccid> you know what you need to do at least now, gotta maybe wait for apt. sorry about that
[05:32] <flaccid> yeah :( maybe you using a slow mirror or something
[05:32] <bdizzle_laptop> in the meantime, I have a quick idea
[05:33] <bdizzle_laptop> I need to copy over the home folder, with the exception of three or four folders that have very large files in them (research, movies, etc)
[05:33] <TeslaTony> #flood
[05:33] <TeslaTony> (they don mind flooding)
[05:35] <Gutter_Rat> Hi all
[05:35] <flaccid> bdizzle_laptop: use sftp or fish or whatever
[05:36] <bdizzle_laptop> fish?
[05:36] <bdizzle_laptop> !fish
[05:37] <bdizzle_laptop> !sftp
[05:37] <flaccid> its a pseudo protocol ie. fish:// which piggy backs ssh
[05:37] <flaccid> 'files over ssh'
[05:37] <bdizzle_laptop> hmm
[05:37] <bdizzle_laptop> you mean like scp?
[05:37] <flaccid> of course you need openssh-server installed on the dest. machine
[05:37] <flaccid> i guess you can say like scp. but scp is superior, a real protocol and not client dependent..
[05:37] <bdizzle_laptop> ah
[05:38] <Gutter_Rat> Anyone in here happen to have experience with Kubuntu and an ATI Radeon 1300 (It's actually a VisionTek 1300 PCI)?  It says that the ATI propriatary drivers are 'In use', and the GL screensavers look alright, but video in either VLC or Kaffine can only be played smoothly in the default window - attempts to go full screen result in VERY choppy performance/freezing of video.
[05:47] <TeslaTony> Right now Iḿ having a slight problem with my keyboard layout. It seems the default uses deadkeys (so I have to double-tap some keys). How do I set the universal default as being deadkey-free? (do I not have deadkeys?)
[06:04] <blistov> i installed ubuntu-desktop and configured gdm as the default login manager, but now my xsessions don't work automatically.
[06:05] <blistov> so when i login, it just boots me to xterm and i can start gnome-session manually, and all is well.
[06:05] <blistov> any idea's?
[06:05] <flaccid> blistov: what is the session type selected from gdm ?
[06:05] <blistov> gnome
[06:05] <blistov> or kde
[06:05] <blistov> or kde4
[06:05] <blistov> all my xsessions were wiped out.
[06:05] <blistov>  :)
[06:06] <blistov> under gentoo, i can fix this. k/ubuntu, no idea.
[06:06] <bdizzle> what is GRUB error 15?
[06:07] <blistov> flaccid: idea's?
[06:07] <flaccid> blistov: perhaps submit a bug or try #ubuntu
[06:07] <flaccid> bdizzle: google shows that..
[06:07] <bdizzle> sorry
[06:07] <flaccid> file not found bdizzle
[06:08] <bdizzle> yeah
[06:08] <flaccid> bdizzle: run grub in konsole and issue find /grub/stage1
[06:08] <bdizzle> hold on, basically it means it was a bad install, which I kinda figured since it told me that there was in I/O read error
[06:09] <bdizzle> nea, with all the issues I'm having with it, I'm just doing a fresh install
[06:09] <bdizzle> now I just have to make sure the disk isn't bad
[06:09] <flaccid> bdizzle: if you have i/o error then that can usually be physical damage so you might need a new hard disk. this error however is usually about referring to the wrong location in grub's menu.lst
[06:10] <bdizzle> um, I hope not, considering its a brand new 350 GB hard drive and I can't afford a new one
[06:10] <bdizzle> and I was just running kubuntu off of it less than five minutes ago
[06:10] <flaccid> you can also check the ata cable
[06:14] <TeslaTony> If it´s new it should be warrantied
[06:19] <bdizzle> eh, I think I got it in february or so
[06:19] <bdizzle> wait, damn, february of last year
[06:19] <bdizzle> it might be past the one year manufacturer's warranty
[06:19] <bdizzle> let me hope it was just a bad install and try again
[06:20] <bdizzle> otherwise, I need to find a way to either install grub to get to the windows partition and see what is going on, or somehow fix the MBR
[06:20] <TeslaTony> Whoś the manufacturer?
[06:21] <TeslaTony> bdizzle: A lot of manufacturers offer more than one year
[06:22] <bdizzle> I forget to be honest
[06:22] <flaccid> bdizzle: um i think you miss what i said. grub 15 is file not found. grub is installed fine and the mbr is fine as grub is running.
[06:23] <bdizzle> what file not found though?
[06:24] <TeslaTony> flaccid: You can reinstall grub from the liveCD, no?
[06:24] <flaccid> usually the /boot files
[06:24] <flaccid> TeslaTony: yeah
[06:25] <TeslaTony> bdizzle? Try that first
[06:25] <bdizzle> eh, too late
[06:25] <bdizzle> I jumped the gun and am trying another reinstall
[06:25] <bdizzle> right now its at 57% and still okay
[06:26] <TeslaTony> Oh, then offer sacrifice to Cthulhu
[06:26] <bdizzle> haha
[06:26] <bdizzle> I might need to
[06:26] <bdizzle> from konsole, how do I see how big my home directory is?
[06:27] <thumper> can someone tell me why knotify4 is using 100% of one CPU? (Kubuntu 8.04 - KDE 4.1)
[06:27] <flaccid> bdizzle: du -c ~
[06:27] <flaccid> thumper: wrong chan see topic
[06:27] <thumper> flaccid: sorry, thanks
[06:27] <flaccid> np
[06:29] <bdizzle> grr
[06:29] <bdizzle> I need to somehow zip my home directory. Its too big by about 100 MB or so
[06:29] <TeslaTony> tarball it
[06:30] <bdizzle> how from command line?
[06:30] <bdizzle> since not all the hidden files will show up via Dolphin
[06:31] <TeslaTony> tar --h
[06:31] <emma> If I am going to make a home partition, and I have 21 GB to work with, how much of that should I make home partition and how much for / ?
[06:31] <bdizzle> ok
[06:32] <flaccid> always lots on google :)
[06:39] <anom01y> Jizz-fart: hey man hows it going ?
[06:43] <anom01y> Jizz-fart: ?
[06:43] <Gutter_Rat> is gnome/kde the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?  I've been looking at software and howto pages on the net and found more answers for 'kubuntu' queries in google tend to point to ubuntu pages and I don't want to hose my system by doing a kind of "I spoke spanish when my system was expecting Portugese" style error.
[06:45] <anom01y> I use Kubunut it works great
[06:45] <anom01y> never tried the Gnome
[06:48] <bdizzle> that I know of, yes, that is the difference
[06:48] <bdizzle> although many of the programs are cross-compatible to make a hybrid system
[06:49] <anom01y> the ubuntu is pretty generic
[06:49] <anom01y> you can get all the help you want for kubuntu there
[06:49] <anom01y> er ubuntu site
[06:49] <bdizzle> does anyone here have any experience with the Linksys WUSB54G wireless adapter?
[06:50] <bdizzle> I'm using it on my desktop and the connection is slower than dial-up, despite it claiming that the bandwidth is at 1 MB / s
[06:51] <flaccid> bdizzle: looks like bad reception or something
[06:52] <bdizzle> its got two out of five bars on KNetwork
[06:52] <flaccid> well limiting down to 1MB usually suggests problem with reception unless the AP is quite far away
[06:56] <bdizzle> is the old 8.04 available online somewhere, or only 8.04.1?
[06:56] <bdizzle> that .1 seems to be causing me problems
[06:57] <flaccid> not sure, but i believe the problem is more likely the user :(
[06:57] <bdizzle> as everything is breaking in dependencies on me whenever I try to install things
[06:57] <bdizzle> gee, thanks
[06:57] <flaccid> bdizzle: that is not normal
[06:57] <flaccid> this is why main should be enabled in sources
[06:58] <bdizzle> I think it is
[06:58] <bdizzle> let me try to fetch updates, then see what is going on
[06:58] <bdizzle> ugh
[06:58] <abwhostw> hi can I ask
[06:58] <abwhostw> question
[06:59] <abwhostw> Change the Directory directive, replace <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/user/public_html/>
[06:59] <abwhostw> how to do this steps
[06:59] <flaccid> !ask | abwhostw
[06:59] <flaccid> abwhostw: with a text editor
[06:59] <abwhostw> yeah
[06:59] <abwhostw> and after
[07:00] <bdizzle> okay, how do I get "tar" to work? I tried tar -h home.tar, as suggested
[07:00] <needhelp> are there any company based apps for kubuntu to do an action eg: apt-get update, for a group of users like 10 pcs?
[07:00] <flaccid> abwhostw: you do what it says
[07:00] <abwhostw> like i want the localhost
[07:00] <abwhostw> get to in
[07:00] <flaccid> abwhostw: there is #apache if you need it or even #ubuntu-server . still its best to learn apache instead of asking questions like that
[07:00] <needhelp> i wanna know if we can computer manage the pcs remotely (besides ssh in)
[07:01] <bdizzle> it claims : "tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' options"
[07:01] <flaccid> needhelp: yes
[07:01] <abwhostw> i know
[07:01] <flaccid> bdizzle: lots on google on tar
[07:01] <abwhostw> everything is working
[07:01] <abwhostw> but question is
[07:01] <abwhostw> <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/user/public_html/>
[07:01] <abwhostw> how to realte ant change the directoru
[07:01] <bdizzle> now I tried doing that, using the "-c" for create new, and now its saying tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:01] <flaccid> abwhostw: i just answered that. please stop flooding
[07:01] <needhelp> actually i have 6 users in my office using kubuntu :) what apps are good for maintaining their comps?
[07:02] <flaccid> needhelp: maintain what exactly?
[07:02] <flaccid> !vnc | needhelp
[07:03] <scretch_>  hi.. how can i start this film? http://www.btmon.com/Video/Movies/The.Island.2005.DVDRip.XviD-KEG.torrent.html
[07:03] <scretch_> strange files...
[07:03] <needhelp> like updating their apt-get altogether instead of logging in one user at a time
[07:04] <flaccid> needhelp: ah ok. im sure there are things out there for that, but i don't know about any sorry
[07:05] <needhelp> like in some internet cafe, there are some billing/control software that automatically log in/out a pc from server
[07:05] <needhelp> icic
[07:05] <flaccid> try google and i guess #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server
[07:05] <flaccid> and even #debian and ##linux heh
[07:06] <flaccid> you can set up cron but i doubt that would be ideal
[07:11] <needhelp> did a search on freshmeat.net on internet cafe..cool
[07:11] <bdizzle> how do I get dolphin to show hidden files?
[07:13] <flaccid> bdizzle: its in the view menu
[07:26] <Taggnostr> hello
[07:26] <flaccid> !hi
[07:26] <Taggnostr> i plugged in the pc a sony digital camera but i don't know where to see its content
[07:27] <flaccid> Taggnostr: storage media in konq/dolphin
[07:27] <Taggnostr> from the KInfoCenter it detects it among the usb devices, it should be accessible as an external drive
[07:27] <Taggnostr> there i can only see the hd, maybe i have to mount it?
[07:27] <flaccid> Taggnostr: you can confirm that the fs is detected with sudo fdisk -l
[07:28] <flaccid> Taggnostr: hal should prompt you if you want to mount it
[07:28] <Taggnostr> nothing appeared when i plugged in the camera
[07:29] <Taggnostr> will sudo fdisk -l work or do i have to do something before?
[07:29] <flaccid> Taggnostr: it will work. it only shows available parts/filesystems
[07:30] <Taggnostr> i can only see sda1 2 and 3
[07:30] <Taggnostr> my two partitions and the swap
[07:31] <flaccid> maybe your camera doesn't support usb mass storage. check /var/log/messages and dmesg
[07:32] <Taggnostr> there are some 'device not ready' errors
[07:32] <flaccid> thats probably the problem
[07:33] <flaccid> either there is something you have to do on the camera, or there is an issue or its not supported
[07:34] <Taggnostr> http://dpaste.com/70633/
[07:34] <Taggnostr> i'm running a 64bit os, could it be that the problem?
[07:34] <flaccid> i/o errors suggest physical damage. you could try googling all these errors however
[07:35] <Taggnostr> i could try it on another pc
[07:38] <flaccid> yep
[07:43] <Taggnostr> thanks anyway for the help
[07:43] <flaccid> np
[07:44] <Taggnostr> i hope the photos are ok
[07:45] <abwhostw>  Permission denied
[07:45] <abwhostw> and cmd show my
[07:45] <abwhostw>  Permission denied
[07:45] <flaccid> !sudo | abwhostw
[07:46] <psilocyde> hi im trying to get my videocard reslution up to 1600x1200 yet the monitor and display settings wont alow past 1280x1024
[07:47] <flaccid> psilocyde: open ksystemlog and check the Xorg log .. it should say something
[07:47] <flaccid> i gtg
[07:47] <psilocyde> how to get to ksytemlog
[07:48] <flaccid> psilocyde: alt+f2 and enter ksystemlog
[07:48] <psilocyde> ty
[07:48] <flaccid> if not install the package with the same name or just run kate /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look directly
[07:48]  * flaccid runs off
[07:50] <psilocyde> flaccid no Xorg that i can see
[07:50] <psilocyde> filter Xorg and i get nothing
[07:52] <psilocyde> anyone?
[07:53] <psilocyde> linux rules
[07:55] <psilocyde> and is ready for the desktop
[08:01] <emma> Hey there. I just moved to Kubuntu. Could someone here give me some assistance or ideas on how to detect the wifi connection? I know it is possible because it worked in Ubuntu.
[08:01] <faileas> emma: knetwork manager should handle that
[08:02] <emma> It says there is no active network device.
[08:02] <emma> So it is as if it does not even know that I have a wireless device for some reason.
[08:03] <emma> But it did on Ubuntu so there is a way.
[08:05] <faileas> hmm
[08:06]  * faileas is trying to remember that command..
[08:06] <faileas> LSPCI ?
[08:06] <faileas> er lspci even
[08:08] <emma> okay I'll check out lspci
[08:11] <emma> It says, "Network Controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b
[08:11] <psilocyde> figured it out for myself, thanks anyway
[08:17] <Z4ndX> does any know how to make the links "click-able" in irssi with the kubuntu terminal ??.. Worked fine in Ubuntu
[08:23] <dario_> buongiorno
[08:23] <flaccid> psilocyde: there definately is /var/log/Xorg.0.log ...
[08:23] <psilocyde> how do i set my pci soundcars default instead of the onboard sound?
[08:24] <flaccid> psilocyde: lots on google about that. search alsa default sound card ubuntu
[08:24] <psilocyde> flaccid got th one handled
[08:24] <flaccid> psilocyde: what was the problem?
[08:25] <psilocyde> sound problem now, alsa is selecting my onboard audio i think want it to use my audigy
[08:26] <flaccid> yep
[08:26] <psilocyde> how  that done?
[08:26] <psilocyde> is
[08:27] <flaccid> psilocyde: first google result as advised: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-you-change-the-default-sound-card-in-kubuntu-499520/
[08:27] <psilocyde> thanks
[08:27] <flaccid> psilocyde: in particular this is the simplest: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2759262#post2759262
[08:28] <flaccid> how did you fix your resolution?
[08:33] <emma> what is the kubuntu equivalent of gksudo?
[08:33] <jussi01> kdesudo
[08:33] <emma> thank you.
[08:34] <abwhostw> Failed to Connect
[08:34] <abwhostw> to connect the localh host
[08:34] <flaccid> abwhostw: please give more information and on 1 line. always specify what you are trying to do and what is reporting the error
[08:35] <emma> if you want to open something with kate, what is the command on the CLI ?
[08:35] <emma> I guess it is not kate.
[08:35] <emma> (this is my first night using kubuntu)
[08:35] <flaccid> emma: kate /path/to/file (in konsole)
[08:35] <abwhostw> abwhostw@abwhostw-laptop:/$ sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[08:35] <abwhostw> apache2: Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite:1: <Directory> was not closed.
[08:35] <abwhostw> abwhostw@abwhostw-laptop:/$ /cat-snap/images
[08:35] <emma> flaccid: not, kdesudo kate ?
[08:36] <flaccid> emma: if you need root privs then yes with kdesudo
[08:36] <flaccid> abwhostw: just like it the errors says: Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite:1: <Directory> was not closed. <-- fix it
[08:36] <emma> It says, 'error command not found'
[08:36] <flaccid> emma: what is the full command you are trying?
[08:37] <abwhostw> how to fix
[08:37] <abwhostw> tell me
[08:37] <emma> kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:37] <flaccid> abwhostw: pastebin the file and i'll have a look
[08:37] <abwhostw> which file
[08:38] <flaccid> emma: that should work. which version of kubuntu is this?
[08:38] <flaccid> abwhostw: its a good idea to read the error which says /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite !
[08:38] <jussi01> emma: if its an older version, try kdesu
[08:39] <abwhostw> abwhostw@abwhostw-laptop:/$ /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite
[08:39] <abwhostw> bash: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite: Permission denie
[08:39] <flaccid> abwhostw: you need to open the file with a text editor, for example: kate /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite
[08:41] <abwhostw> <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/abwhostw/public_html/>
[08:41] <abwhostw> that's on the file
[08:43] <emma> jussi01: kubuntu kde4
[08:43] <abwhostw> I give u what in on the file
[08:43] <abwhostw> <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/abwhostw/public_html/>
[08:46] <flaccid> !pastebin | abwhostw
[08:46] <flaccid> abwhostw: i see you are still trying to do this from yesterday. i suggest you try to learn some basics about linux and apache (reading errors and thinking about them helps too)
[08:48] <abwhostw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36443/
[08:48] <abwhostw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36443/
[08:49] <flaccid> abwhostw: whats that meant to be? i want to see  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite . this can be opened with kate  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite
[08:50] <abwhostw> i find own
[08:50] <abwhostw> <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/abwhostw/public_html/>
[08:50] <flaccid> abwhostw: stop.
[08:51] <abwhostw> man the time is right now 3:45 Am
[08:51] <flaccid> you are not helping yourself
[08:51] <abwhostw> i was try to llearn
[08:52] <flaccid> i was try to teach, but everything i show you it doesn't seem you read and try to understand
[08:52] <abwhostw> when I
[08:52] <abwhostw> when I opene this file I found inside
[08:52] <abwhostw> "/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite"
[08:53] <abwhostw> inside the file was that
[08:53] <abwhostw>  <Directory /var/www/> to <Directory /home/abwhostw/public_html/>
[08:53] <abwhostw> i don't how came
[08:53] <flaccid> abwhostw: stop flooding and repeating!
[08:54] <abwhostw> I trying to make u understand what's going on
[08:54] <flaccid> abwhostw: if you pastebin the file i can look at it for you ie. kate /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite then select all + copy and paste it into a pastebin
[08:54] <flaccid> i understand exactly what is going on abwhostw
[08:54] <abwhostw>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/36443/
[08:55] <flaccid> abwhostw: that is not what i asked for.
[08:55] <abwhostw> the file is empty
[08:55] <flaccid> not according to the error you advised before
[08:56] <flaccid> maybe this is out of your skillset atm?
[08:56] <abwhostw> no man I swEAR WHEN i OPNE THE FILE GIVE THIS MESSGE
[08:56] <abwhostw> hOW MANY TIMES i TELLING U
[08:57] <abwhostw> BUT U
[08:57] <flaccid> don't shout
[08:57] <abwhostw> man u want to help me or u want to give listen in manner
[08:57] <flaccid> errors don't lie don't. from that pastebin it seems you can't execute much yet in command line
[08:57] <abwhostw> mannners
[08:57] <flaccid> i've been helping since yesterday dude
[08:58] <abwhostw> man where u leave
[08:58] <abwhostw> in which country
[08:58] <abwhostw> I will call u
[08:58] <flaccid> !u | abwhostw
[08:58] <flaccid> i don't do phone support unless you upfront $10,000
[08:59] <abwhostw> uh  $ 10 Grands than keep the linux for u
[08:59] <flaccid> stop using 'u' and start reading.
[09:00] <abwhostw> what
[09:00] <abwhostw> u U
[09:00] <abwhostw> can I know where are you from ??????
[09:04] <abwhostw> apache
[09:04] <abwhostw> apache
[09:05] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> php
[09:05] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> php
[09:05] <abwhostw> do u where the room for apache2
[09:05] <Z4ndX>  does any know how to make the links "click-able" in irssi with the kubuntu terminal ??.. Worked fine in Ubuntu
[09:06] <flaccid> abwhostw: #apache
[09:06] <abwhostw> thx
[09:07] <flaccid> np
[09:07] <ol_dude67> hey im trying to watch a dvd and aint getting far whats the best one to use for this?
[09:08] <flaccid> !dvd | ol_dude67
[09:08] <flaccid> kaffeine or vlc player ol_dude67
[09:09] <ol_dude67> thanks thats the page i was looking for
[09:09] <flaccid> coolio
[09:29] <abwhostw> root@abwhostw-laptop:~# /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[09:29] <abwhostw> apache2: Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite:1: <Directory> was not closed.
[09:30] <larsivi> Hi - after the last Java Sun upgrade, FF complains about missing java plugin again - anyone know how to fix it?
[09:36] <Corkalito_> hi i need some help with KPPP
[09:37] <Corkalito_> ...
[09:44] <thefish> im getting vertical stripes instead of usplash, and all CTRL+ALT+F* ttys are the same - any ideas?
[09:47] <Corkalito_> :S
[09:47] <Corkalito_> i dont think theres anyone here
[09:50] <Corkalito_> meh
[09:50] <abwhostw> #
[09:50] <Corkalito_> theres nobody here
[09:50] <abwhostw> # which allows you to create your own set of files by starting with the
[09:50] <abwhostw> # /usr/share/apache2/error/include/ files and copying them to /your/include/path/,
[09:50] <abwhostw> # even on a per-VirtualHost basis.  The default include files will display
[09:50] <abwhostw> # your Apache version number and your ServerAdmin email address regardless
[09:50] <abwhostw> # of the setting of ServerSignature.
[09:50] <Corkalito_> :S
[09:50] <abwhostw> #
[09:50] <abwhostw> # The internationalized error documents require mod_alias, mod_include
[09:50] <abwhostw> # and mod_negotiation.  To activate them, uncomment the following 30 lines.
[09:50] <abwhostw> #    Alias /error/ "/usr/share/apache2/error/"
[09:50] <abwhostw> #
[09:50] <abwhostw> #    <Directory "/usr/share/apache2/error">
[09:50] <thefish> please dont be pasting your entire httpd.conf
[09:50] <abwhostw> #        AllowOverride None
[09:50] <flaccid> !ops
[09:51] <abwhostw> #        Options IncludesNoExec
[09:51] <abwhostw> #        AddOutputFilter Includes html
[09:51] <gnomefreak> abwhostw: please use pastebin
[09:51] <abwhostw> #        AddHandler type-map var
[09:51] <abwhostw> #        Order allow,deny
[09:51] <flaccid> abwhostw has been abusing the channel last 2 nights, please ban. user won't listen to anything or abide any rules
[09:51] <flaccid> col
[09:51] <flaccid> cool
[09:52] <Corkalito_> :S
[09:52] <Corkalito_> nobody knows how to set up kppp?
[09:55] <flaccid> !ppp | Corkalito_
[09:56] <Corkalito_> thanks
[09:56] <flaccid> np
[10:01] <Corkalito_> hmm
[10:01] <Corkalito_> the thing is i already got it all configured and set up, it even connects
[10:01] <Corkalito_> i just dont get any activity
[10:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys, i cant copy from my external hard disk to my pc, everytime i try with a file, at some point it stops and says "impossible to read from the hard disk" can u help? thanks
[10:33] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: what says that exactly?
[10:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hello flaccid: it starts the download, then it stops at some point saying "impossibile to read this file from the hard drive"
[10:36] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: once again, what is "it" ?
[10:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the file it's a movie, when i saw i couldnt copy it i runned it from the hard disk and it worked, i was watching it but then it stopped, at the same point when it stopped to downloaded before
[10:38] <flaccid> no. what program are you using to copy?
[10:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> then i tried with other files thinking it was this file's problem, instead it was the same with the others also
[10:38] <flaccid> hmm thats all pretty confusing
[10:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> to copy? i think dolphin, i right click on the files, select "copy here" in a folder of my pc
[10:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> drag and drop
[10:40] <amerigo> ! nvidia
[10:42] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: ok. now can you paste the Exact error please, exactly as the dialog says?
[10:43] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry flaccid but now i dont have the hard disk here with me so i cant do it, is there a way, a log or something, through which i can see errors from yesterday?
[10:43] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: not that i know of
[10:44] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i found system log im opening it and see what's inside
[10:46] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: i found it, here's what the log says ntfs_attr_pread error reading '/[Divx - ENG] Toxic Love,1983.avi' at offset 196939776: 4096 <> -1: Input/output error
[10:46] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> which is not the same message that was popping out yesterday but it might help
[10:47] <amerigo> hello everybody
[10:47] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: thats usually physical damage on the disk/read error
[10:48] <amerigo> I'd like to know the way to define wich version of kubuntu i have installed on my pc
[10:48] <amerigo> theeere's any command to run in console?
[10:48] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mmmm so you think it is actually a disk problem, nothing to do with linux? right?
[10:49] <amerigo> ! version
[10:49] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: correct
[10:49] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thank you flaccid, i'll let you know if it works on other systems or not
[10:50] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thanks for your help
[10:50] <amerigo> lsb_release -a thanks for your help
[10:52] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> to be honest, there's something else i'd like to fix, which is much more important than my hard disk... it's my internet connection, it turned to be extremely slow, it taks 4-5 minutes to load every web page i open also if i do have high speed adsl, i also tested my speed on one of those websites (speedometers??) and it came out to be good, how do i make my internet as quick as it was when i was using xp? thank you
[10:58] <flaccid> np
[10:59] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: goto konsole and wget a file from a web server that is largish and would usually download at the normal speeds
[10:59] <flaccid> evening apachelogger
[11:00] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: i am a newbie i dont know exacly what this means, sorry. could you explain?
[11:00] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: do you know konsole?
[11:01] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the terminal yes
[11:01] <flaccid> cd /tmp then wget http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso
[11:02] <flaccid> replace the above URL with a large download close to you that you would usually get at normal speed. then see what speed it downloads at in konsole with wget..
[11:03] <apachelogger> ahoy flaccid
[11:03] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> a large download close to me you mean i should download any program using a mirror close to my location?
[11:04] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yeah pretty much
[11:05] <flaccid> my example was aarnet's mirror as thats local to me in australia (just to rule out transient issues on the net/routing further away)
[11:05] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright got it, i'm doing it
[11:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: ive done it, it's downloading averagely at 220.50 K/s is that fine?
[11:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> (how do i quit the download by the way?)
[11:08] <flaccid> depends what connection you have. looks fine to me heh im stuck on ~8K/s effectively here atm aka 64kbps
[11:08] <flaccid> ctrl + c to kill it
[11:08] <flaccid> anyone know a guide or how to set up spell checking in OpenOffice.org ?
[11:10] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: tools > option > language settings > writing aids
[11:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i pinged my own router to see how it's going and there's a 25% packet loss, this is not good, it means my wireless has a weak signal, but this is impossibile because im really close to the router, infact when i was running xp the signal was 100% and it was going super fast... not now...
[11:12] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: thanks. hmm seems to all be enabled but it aint correcting me as i type
[11:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> if you see anything that's not working correctly, report it to the openoffice.org staff with a mail or something, they're really quick, they'll fix it right away
[11:15] <flaccid> i'd say its more to do with ubuntu's packaging
[11:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> could be
[11:15] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: so you are saying on the same hardware but windows xp you get no packet loss?
[11:15] <Haza> Good morning folks. Im building video tutorials using screen capture software. Can anyone recommend some basic video editing software for Kubuntu? Open source if possible :)
[11:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes flaccid, when i was running xp internet was going super fast and no packet loss (it was something like 2% packet loss against the 25%-30% ive got with kubuntu)...
[11:17] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: which wireless card and driver is this with?
[11:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i think it has something to do with my wired, because when i first installed kubuntu, on first boot, internet was working by itself, i didnt set anything, nor set neither installed... it might have chose a generic driver for my wired and i think i should replace it with its right one, but, im a newbie of linux and i dont know how to do that :D
[11:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> wireless card i dont know, where do i see that?
[11:20] <flaccid> you are talking about packet loss with the wireless arnet you?
[11:21] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: it should be listed in lspci
[11:24] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> so i guess it should be here somewhere http://paste.ubuntu.com/36483/
[11:29] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i'll brb
[11:29] <flaccid> [20:20] <flaccid> you are talking about packet loss with the wireless arnet you?
[11:29] <flaccid> is it usb not pci or something
[11:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it's usb
[11:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> (sorry i didnt read that)
[11:30] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: can you paste the entry from lsusb and also from lshw ?
[11:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright
[11:30] <flaccid> just like in 1 pastebin
[11:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> im doing it but as its super slow its taking a while to upload on pastebin
[11:33] <flaccid> probably because of packet loss
[11:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> lsusb --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36487/
[11:34] <flaccid> hmm there are some bugs on this model. what is your uname -a ?
[11:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the other it's taking more than a while...
[11:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> what is this?
[11:35] <flaccid> system information
[11:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> Linux emonsx 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> here it is
[11:36] <flaccid> and this is an asus wl-167g ?
[11:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> my computer u mean?
[11:36] <flaccid> the wireless usb
[11:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> oh yes yes it is an Asus 802.11g 54 Mbps
[11:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> (I copied what's written on it)
[11:37] <flaccid> thats not the model name
[11:37] <flaccid> anyway, are you on hardy?
[11:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes
[11:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the lshw doesnt move at all, you want me to paste it to you in pm?
[11:39] <flaccid> nah just scroll through lshw and copy your entry for this card and pastebin it
[11:39] <flaccid> or if you can't pastebin yeah pm
[11:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i will pm because it doesnt let me pastebin it
[11:40] <flaccid> k
[11:41] <flaccid> damn he tried to pm me the whole lshw
[11:54] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i only wanted to entry in lshw of the wireless card not the whole thing..
[12:00] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ah im sorry flaccid... i thought you wanted the whole thing
[12:01] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> anyway here http://paste.ubuntu.com/36495/ there's the whole thing on pastebin if you need
[12:02] <snarkster> nice
[12:03] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: is that ok?
[12:03] <snarkster> gm everyone
[12:04] <flaccid> looking now
[12:04] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hello snarkster
[12:04] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright flaccid
[12:05] <snarkster> dont you hate being thrown awake?
[12:05] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it depends, if its my girlfriend in a certain way, nope! lol
[12:06] <snarkster> thats different
[12:06] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> eheheh
[12:06] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: your ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and its wlan0 ?
[12:06] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> this is the ip that i get from my router yes
[12:07] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: pastebin /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[12:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: do you want me to pastebin it all? it's a huge file!
[12:10] <flaccid> yes please
[12:10] <flaccid> !pastebinit
[12:10] <flaccid> hmm we need a factoid on that thing
[12:11] <^V^> !pastebin
[12:11] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> this file /var/log/messages --> doesnt even let me paste it in the box
[12:11] <flaccid> !info pastebinit
[12:11] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> this /var/log/syslog is doing it but it will take a while
[12:11] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: install the above
[12:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright
[12:12] <flaccid> then you can do pastebinit /var/log/messages (and it spits back the url in konsole).. no stuffing around
[12:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> from the repository?
[12:12] <flaccid> yeah its in universe
[12:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ok
[12:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> its not in my repository though
[12:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ill run a apt-get install pastebinit
[12:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> will it work?
[12:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ???????
[12:15] <jussi01> you need sudo
[12:15] <^V^> strawbeRRy_fieLd: have you got the universe repository enabled?
[12:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i was
[12:15] <^V^> you have adept open?
[12:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes
[12:15] <^V^> that is why
[12:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ah you mean in this very moment? no its closed
[12:16] <^V^> ok
[12:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how do i install pastebinit?
[12:16] <flaccid> yes use sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> kk
[12:16] <flaccid> if you still get that error message then see !adeptfix
[12:17] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> its installing
[12:17] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> once installed where do i find it?
[12:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> its not in my applications list
[12:18] <flaccid> you don't need to find it, you just run the command in konsole like i said before
[12:18] <flaccid> its a command not a gui application
[12:18] <^V^> type pastbinit in your commandline
[12:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i runned this command pastebinit /var/log/messages
[12:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> nothing is happening
[12:19] <flaccid> its probably uploading strawbeRRy_fieLd
[12:19] <flaccid> wait a little bit
[12:19] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright :D
[12:19] <flaccid> its like that with packet loss like this
[12:20] <tdn> I cannot get my microphone on a Thinkpad T61p to work in Kubuntu. It does not pick up my voice. Please help me fix this. Thanks.
[12:20] <bazhang> tdn you seen thinkwiki yet?
[12:20] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry guys but i dont understand much of kubuntu, i installed it like two weeks ago because i was fed up with windows and its damned corporation policy that was crashing with my ideas, but linux is ****** difficult and i wasnt expecting it. im going nuts lol
[12:21] <geek_debian_hell> strawbeRRy_fieLd: there is a learning curve... not everything works the same ;p
[12:21] <^V^> strawbeRRy_fieLd: what was the problem you were having?
[12:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i know i know eheheh
[12:21] <tdn> bazhang, yes. I know Thinkwiki. I have looked at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T61p, but it says nothing about the mic.
[12:21]  * geek_debian_hell notes it took him 3 tries to get used toit ;p
[12:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> what problema ^V^ ?
[12:21] <flaccid> well at this stage strawbeRRy_fieLd it appears to be a bug in your driver and there are lots of bug reports like that on launchpad and other places with your card
[12:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: really? what do i have to do now then?
[12:23] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i wanted to look at the logs before you submitted a bug
[12:23] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i dont know what that means, i didnt submit any bug
[12:23] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> or did i? not that i remember
[12:26] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yeah you havnt. i should have said 'submit' not submitted
[12:26] <sonoftheclayr> Does Kword have a word count?
[12:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> its weird that ivegot all these probs, this is just a fresh kubuntu installation from 2 weeks ago, how's that possible? it's true, my wireless is not working well, and i wasnt able to install the nvidia drivers infact when im watching something on vlc there's always a weird line in the middle of the screen, im not able to equilize my audio and some other little things, but i was hoping that little by little, studing web guides and
[12:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> asking here i would be able to solve them all. but now your scaring me :D what do i do? help! lol
[12:28] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: im waiting.
[12:28] <flaccid> we can look at the other problems once we do this
[12:30] <snarkster> flaccid and strawbeRRy_fieLd may I ask what is happening?? not to interrupt but youve peeked my curiosity.
[12:30] <flaccid> snarkster: packet loss with a wlan driver
[12:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright this is the message ivegot after typing pastebinit var log messages
[12:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36511/
[12:31] <flaccid> its also possible its doing something like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201306 but yeah lots of bugs on this driver/chipset
[12:31] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> now i will pastebinit the system log
[12:31] <flaccid> thanks strawbeRRy_fieLd
[12:31]  * flaccid poors another wine
[12:31] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thank you for helping though
[12:31] <flaccid> np. is that /var/log/messages?
[12:31] <flaccid> doesn't look like it to me
[12:32] <snarkster> thats a dump from pastebinit
[12:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> this is what i got after /var/log/messages
[12:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> now im pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[12:33] <flaccid> ah true
[12:33] <flaccid> could be as a result of the packet loss too. pastebinit aint working with pastebin.com very well atm
[12:34] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: run this and then paste me the two URLs: pastebinit -b http://rafb.net/paste /var/log/messages; pastebinit -b http://rafb.net/paste /var/log/syslog
[12:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> now ive already runned pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[12:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ill do it when it finishes it
[12:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> or can i do it in another terminal?
[12:35] <flaccid> you can yes, although that might bodge up the other way coz of the packet loss issue
[12:35] <flaccid> you could cancel the other one with ctrl + c however
[12:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright so ill just wait
[12:36] <snarkster> i just read that bugreport.. I use a belkin wireless G usb stick and it works perfectly everytime right out of the box.
[12:36] <snarkster> that is something alittle deeper than a network problem
[12:37] <snarkster> does it work with the live cd??
[12:39] <flaccid> well things don't work for everyone because your variables will be different to theirs
[12:39] <snarkster> this is true
[12:39] <flaccid> but a search on that chipset and drivers reveals a lot of issues/bugs
[12:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright this is the syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/36517/
[12:40] <flaccid> so i want to see whats going on in the system logs
[12:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> now ill run the other two you asked for
[12:40] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: it aint working. try my command and see if the same thing happens with rafb..
[12:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes im doing it
[12:40] <flaccid> that i/o errors is most likely because of the problem
[12:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> k
[12:41] <Smokeyo> Hey, does any 1 know why my router page won;t load with either Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[12:42] <^V^> Smokeyo: Are you able to get to any part of the network/internet?
[12:42] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: hey and can you confirm that this issue doesn't exist when you are using wired?
[12:42] <flaccid> Smokeyo: whats the error
[12:43] <Smokeyo> No error
[12:43] <Smokeyo> it loads upto 70%
[12:43] <Smokeyo> and just freezes
[12:43] <Smokeyo> im on the internet lol xD
[12:43] <^V^> What browser?
[12:43] <Smokeyo> Iv tried Firefox and the 1 that comes with Kubuntu
[12:43] <Smokeyo> same problem
[12:43] <^V^> what routerr?
[12:43] <Smokeyo> but on Windows Vista the site opens fine.
[12:44] <Smokeyo> Netgear DG834PN
[12:44] <^V^> Firefox on windows works fine?
[12:44] <Smokeyo> yep
[12:45] <^V^> how are you trying to get to therouter page?
[12:45] <^V^> what address?
[12:45] <Smokeyo> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <flaccid> Smokeyo: a lot of routers dont respond on the web gui when under load and a lot of routers web guis are only supported by MSIE etc...
[12:45] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> flaccid: i dont know ive never tried it with a wired but the other computers here work well with wi-fi
[12:45] <Smokeyo> it worked before
[12:45] <Smokeyo> on my old computer
[12:45] <Smokeyo> i had windows xp/ubuntu
[12:45] <Smokeyo> and it worked fine then:S
[12:45] <^V^> what has changed since then with your router?
[12:46] <flaccid> Smokeyo: ah netgear. i've seen this problem dozens of times. its the netgear firmware/router - its to put it mildly, crap.
[12:46] <Smokeyo> i bought a new computer
[12:46] <Smokeyo> lol
[12:46] <Smokeyo> bought 1 on my bday
[12:46] <flaccid> Smokeyo: you can check if its load by rebooting the router and then going straight to the web gui asap..
[12:46] <Smokeyo> not its windows vista/ubuntu/kubuntu lol
[12:46] <Smokeyo> Flaccid, what do you mean?
[12:46] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: need to try wired before submitting bug
[12:46] <Smokeyo> like pull wire out 10 seconds and try connecting soon as it goes in?
[12:46] <^V^> Smokeyo: can you try to install the user agent switcher addon for firefox and pretend you are on windows xp?
[12:47] <flaccid> Smokeyo: no reboot the router.
[12:47] <Smokeyo> never tried new to this you see
[12:47] <Smokeyo> lol
[12:47] <Smokeyo> You mean so i have to put all the setting in again Flaccid?
[12:47] <flaccid> i've seen this behaviour many times with netgear which is inferior which is why i don't buy them anymore
[12:47] <flaccid> Smokeyo: no reboot the router (even if its pull out plug then put back in)
[12:47] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright, so i will link the computer and the router with a wire and see how it goes, ill do it now
[12:48] <Smokeyo> ok
[12:48] <Smokeyo> ill pull out and try:S
[12:48] <Smokeyo> back in like 5mins.
[12:48] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: if you have no problems then at least we know your networking is fine and its likely the driver
[12:49] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i have an ethernet cable long enough to get here, would that be ok?
[12:49] <snarkster> hmm Ive always installed IE4Linux
[12:50] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i have to enable my ethernet card to use it i guess
[12:50] <snarkster> ive been wondering if that firefox plugin that uses IE can work on linux with IE4Linux
[12:51] <Smokey1> Nope still freezing at 70%
[12:51] <snarkster> im go back to sleep.. good luck with that
[12:51] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> oh thats really weird, i had read on the kubuntu web guide that having the ethernet network device enable and at the same time also the wlan network device working, slows down the connection, so 2 days ago i disabled it, now it's enabled again... how come?
[12:52] <flaccid> Smokey1: get a decent router
[12:52] <Smokey1> lol, im not that Rich xd
[12:53] <flaccid> strawbeRRy_fieLd: can you link me to that guide or whatever because thats incorrect. if you plug in wired, knetworkmanager will switch for you automatically
[12:53] <Smokey1> and i don't have a choice in which router we get my mother and step farther are lol i told them Netgear sucks.
[12:53] <flaccid> decent asus or linksys routers are pretty cheap and can be flashed with dd-wrt or openwrt firmware :p
[12:53] <Smokey1> They just ask what router is best in store lol and they go: netgear lol...
[12:54] <flaccid> and netgear routers can't handle much tcp connections either so they are bad for bit torrent etc.
[12:54] <flaccid> yeah stores don't know anything, they only sell
[12:54] <vincent_> Hi everybody. Can someone give me a link where it is explained ("officialy") how to upgrade to Kubuntu Intrepid ?
[12:54] <geek_debian_hell> Smokey1: just get a WRT54GL and toss on DD-WRT
[12:54] <Smokey1> Yeah, i went to them the other day, some 1 said to me netgear are rubbish, all they said was: netgear was the best router, thats what pcworld said*
[12:55] <Smokey1> Also my numpad key aint working on ubuntu any suggestions?:P
[12:56] <Smokey1> I havn't done a firmware upgrade to my router either, its just standard maybe if i firmwared up it might work?
[12:57] <flaccid> vincent_: try #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[12:57] <flaccid> geek_debian_hell: yep thats what i use too, agreed..
[12:57] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> im sorry, didnt mean to intasate the channel
[12:57] <flaccid> pcworld lol
[12:57] <vincent_> Ok, thanks.
[12:57] <Smokey1> yeah pcworld suck.
[12:57] <flaccid> Smokey1: thats a good chance too
[12:58] <Smokey1> but saying that, i would have to go onto vista to upgrade it lol.
[12:58] <Smokey1> seeing as i can't connect through Linux lol
[12:58] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: wired works fine?
[12:58] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> yes
[12:58] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> 25 packets transmitted, 25 received, 0% packet loss, time 24003ms
[12:58] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> see?
[12:58] <flaccid> !bugs | strawbeRRy-fieLd
[12:58] <flaccid> please submit a bug
[12:59] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> saying what?
[12:59] <Smokey1> Do your use Kubuntu then?
[12:59] <Smokey1> or do you have both installeD?
[12:59] <flaccid> that with your card model on your linux version you get packet loss with the driver
[13:00] <flaccid> kind of needed to see logs to see which driver it used from the kernel but yeah. maybe you can look through them manually
[13:01] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> shouldnt i try to install the card driver first since ive never done it?
[13:01] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> and what about ALL the other bugs you said i have?
[13:01] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: no, the driver is already installed, it uses the kernel
[13:01] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> mmm
[13:02] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: i don't recall any other bugs. yet to look at any of your other problems
 well at this stage strawbeRRy_fieLd it appears to be a bug in your driver and there are lots of bug reports like that on launchpad and other places with your card
[13:03] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: if there are errors with this thing, they should be in /var/log/syslog under NetworkManager: prefix. this should go in the report too if possible..
[13:03] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: yes but reports *like* that. i didn't find one that matched
[13:03] <flaccid> and needed more info..
[13:03] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> alright
[13:04] <flaccid> in summary, people have reported lots of problems with this chipset and driver, so best to try to help yourself with this bug and others in the community
[13:04] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> so i open /var/log/syslog look for network manager: prefix and copy the text in the bug report explaining whats happening
[13:05] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: yeah so there will be lots of lines in the syslog. you want to include all the ones that have NetworkManager: in the line , in the report, get me?
[13:07] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: if you open ksystemlog you can view this log as well and in real time it should poll it and update it so you can see if it constantly puts in errors or something (which is possible)
[13:07] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> yes i did get you but i just opened the syslog with kate and serch with "find" the networkmanager" word but nothing matches
[13:08] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> alright i forgot the case story in linux
[13:08] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> now it found it
[13:09] <flaccid> cool
[13:09] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> the last errorlog is [ 9214.755685] [UFW BLOCK INPUT]: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:1a:4d:67:b0:25:00:1a:70:6e:cb:ef:08:00 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=98 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=114 ID=28483 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=42147 DPT=47238 WINDOW=48495 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0
[13:10] <flaccid> thats eth0, not your wlan..
[13:13] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: after you have done the bug report, paste the link in here and i'll check it out. then we can move on to your other problems if you want
[13:14] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> yes please
[13:15] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> im getting crazy copying and pasting all the lines with "NetworkManager" uff
[13:17] <flaccid> yeah gets like that totally. see i guess if you were on wired, your pastebinit would work coz of now packet loss. i'd still be interested to look at the full logs but yeah
[13:17] <flaccid> now=no
[13:20] <traqn> help, i've got a problem with playing films(.avi) with dragon player kaffeine and  codeine
[13:21] <traqn> i got xeine codec but still nothing
[13:21] <flaccid> traqn: what code is the avi in (avi is just a container) ?
[13:21] <Smokey1> lol
[13:21] <flaccid> codec i mean
[13:21] <traqn> i have no idea how can i check
[13:22] <flaccid> traqn: besides the filename, i dont know. something i wouldn't mind knowing myself
[13:23] <traqn> propertise and everything just .avi
[13:24] <flaccid> what do you mean?
[13:24] <traqn> there is nothing exept avi
[13:24] <traqn> about the film
[13:24] <flaccid> have you played it on another computer or anything before?
[13:25] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> flaccid: ive finished with the bug report, do i have to send it or you want to read it first?
[13:25] <traqn> yes on Windows OS with K-lite 3.5.7 full no problem
[13:25] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: just submit it and then give me the url and i'll append to it with a comment if needed
[13:25] <traqn> the strange thing is that somethimes is fine
[13:26] <flaccid> traqn: you could use a windows program perhaps to find out what codec it is or you could just follow !codecs and install them all and see if that helps
[13:26] <traqn> and after a pause or somthing it crushes
[13:26] <flaccid> sometimes it plays?
[13:26] <flaccid> right, so it does work
[13:26] <flaccid> do you get any errors messages or anything anywhere?
[13:26] <traqn> no
[13:26] <traqn> no errors
[13:26] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> ok
[13:26] <flaccid> you could run it from konsole and see what it outputs there when you go to open it..
[13:27] <flaccid> its possible that its also copy protected or something or the codec is modified thus why it crashes. contact the author of the .avi ..
[13:27] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/256925
[13:28] <Taggnostr> i connected a monitor to the vga of my notebook but it doesn't seem to receive any signal, is there something i have to do?
[13:28] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: just add a comment and put in there your lsub and uname -a and also that the driver you are using is rt73usb
[13:28] <traqn> flaccid: 10x for now i'll try something
[13:30] <clau30> hi. while upgrading form gutsy to hardy, localedef apparently froze, killing it doesn't work
[13:32] <clau30> ok, fixed ;)
[13:33] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/256925 is it better now?
[13:33] <^V^> clau https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[13:33] <^V^> clau30:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[13:34] <flaccid> hey strawbeRRy-fieLd i think i found other people with same problem: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4703
[13:35] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: sweet. just an fyi its ok to paste in the report itself instead of pastebin
[13:36] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> an fyi???
[13:36] <flaccid> 'for your information'
[13:37] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: man check out the size of this thread: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=400236&page=110
[13:39] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> flaccid: what does have to do with me?
[13:39] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: people are describing your problem with the same driver..
[13:39] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> flaccid: if you want to take a look at my syslog its loaded now http://pastebin.com/m5caf7880
[13:40] <flaccid> thank you. there are some possible solutions on that thread like http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=f620c370beae5aef89dbb20c333c20c6&p=4904721&postcount=1100 ie. rutilt
[13:41] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> according to that thread the problem seems to be networkmanager
[13:42] <flaccid> um possibly
[13:42] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> alright now my mind is burning but i have to say thanks a lot to help me this much, ill give it a look later when my brain cools down
[13:43] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> in the future days ill come here again to disturb you lol for my other issues
[13:43] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> thanks mate
[13:43] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> your helpful as usual ;)
[13:44] <flaccid> strawbeRRy-fieLd: hey reload the bug, i found the possible problem
[13:44] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> reload it?
[13:44] <flaccid> yep in your browser
[13:44] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> how?
[13:44] <flaccid> the lp page
[13:44] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> i never closed it :D
[13:45] <flaccid> refresh/reload
[13:45] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> yes ive seen your added comments now
[13:45] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> that repeating over and over might be yiou think?
[13:46] <flaccid> its possible. anyway that + that massive thread and other reports with that exact driver suggest its definately your driver
[13:46] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> so its the wifi card driver isn it?
[13:47] <flaccid> yeah rt73usb. mind you lots of bugs like this with rt* drivers. not my choice of wireless at all
[13:47] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> i didnt choose it
[13:48] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> anyway by following this http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=400236&page=110 i should fix the prob right?
[13:48] <flaccid> i can't say for sure, but you can always try
[13:48] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> dont feel like doing it now as my brain's packing his stuff to go away lol
[13:48] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> ok flaccid thank you once more
[13:49] <flaccid> yep. no worries strawbeRRy-fieLd
[13:49] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> as i said before ill come visit you in the future for my other issues eheheheh
[13:49] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> you should open #flaccid mate LOL
[13:49] <flaccid> don't visit me, just visit this chan and ask in it :)
[13:50] <flaccid> heh no way, we just need a few more active helpers here i guess
[13:50] <Smokey1> and im just totally confused why my linux won't open my router page still lol
[13:50] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> dont worry about it i wasnt thinking about phisically visit you like couch surfing in australuia or something
[13:50] <flaccid> Smokey1: we already went over this. problem aint linux.
[13:50] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> thank you
[13:50] <strawbeRRy-fieLd> bye
[13:51] <flaccid> have a good one
[13:51] <concernedcitizen> hi guys, I'm new to kubuntu and kde. I've came across some videos recently on cool desktop effects with KDE, something about XGL and Compiz. Do all I need to get started to just install XGL and Compiz over the respo?
[13:51] <concernedcitizen> *repos
[13:52] <flaccid> nothing confusing about bad firmware
[13:52] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | concernedcitizen
[13:52] <concernedcitizen> !xgl
[13:53] <concernedcitizen> so wait, I don't need xgl?
[13:53] <flaccid> correct concernedcitizen
[13:53] <concernedcitizen> thanks love.
[13:53] <concernedcitizen> got another question RE: Kmix though
[13:53] <concernedcitizen> I'm trying to map my volume up and down buttons on my T61 to increasing and lowering the volume of my sound output
[13:54] <concernedcitizen> I managed to do it successfully on the Global Shortcuts
[13:54] <flaccid> !enter | concernedcitizen
[13:55] <concernedcitizen> but the thing is, the volume up and down, affects the Master Volume, which is linked to a soundcard that I am not using. Is there anyway to change Kmix to use my other soundcard as the Master, so that I can volume up and down?
[13:55] <Smokeyo> back did a system restart
[13:57] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: follow this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-you-change-the-default-sound-card-in-kubuntu-499520/  (poste #8) mainly then right click on kmix after that and select the right master channel on the now default card
[13:58] <flaccid> so change the default card around and then set the master channel on it in kmix if needed
[14:00] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: I did that already but the buttons just won't map correctly.
[14:02] <flaccid> hmm. i dont know really anything about the programs that drive the shortcuts buttons
[14:02] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: its cool, I appreciate the help.
[14:02] <Carroarmato0> Hi, I wanted to urgently report that my system has been compromized due to some lack of security by some default permissions present in Ubuntu, and probably in Kubuntu as well.
[14:02] <flaccid> !bugs | Carroarmato0 and mark it as a security bug
[14:04] <Carroarmato0> Problem is I've issued this problem to the security team a long time ago, but they just rejected my bug report because they were confusing usability with security.
[14:05] <Carroarmato0> I'll file another bug report with the detailes and post the link back here.
[14:06] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: what is it out of curiousity?
[14:06] <thefish> Carroarmato0: dont file 2 bugs for the same issue
[14:09] <Carroarmato0> The situation is as following:   by default, your "Home" folder is accessable by both "members" and "others".   The main idea is that you have a special folder called "Public" which is used for data sharing between other users on the same system.
[14:10] <flaccid> ah yes thats a classic argument that one... and yes i agree with you and always will
[14:10] <flaccid> what is their argument back on that one?
[14:13] <Carroarmato0> Your "Desktop" folder does have the right permissions.     But for people like me who like to keep a clear desktop, I move my folders directly in my account folder where the "Desktop" and "Public" folder lies.  These folders however do not have the appropriate permissions set, and are (depending on previous asigned permissions) readable.
[14:13] <Carroarmato0> Shame on me you could say. But....
[14:14] <flaccid> yes but what does ubuntu people say against making ~ 770 ?
[14:16] <Carroarmato0> You might think that it's not a big deal because the files aren't executable. Ever heard of spying? Sensible data can't be executed, but read. So I believe it's very important to inform people about that. I had to figure that out the hard way.
[14:18] <flaccid> yeah i made the assumption early on that ~ was private but then i realised i could read other peoples home dirs and was like wtf. but what was the reason against changing the ~ perms ?
[14:18] <Carroarmato0> If it's not a fysical user who sniff around your stuff, it could be a virus that got lucky and hijacked an account with half administrative rights.
[14:19] <Carroarmato0> From the Security Team's point of view?
[14:19] <flaccid> well my user homes here are drwxr-xr-x so they can execute, just can't write
[14:19] <flaccid> yes what was their response/reason not to change it ?
[14:19] <concernedcitizen> flaccid: I've gotten compiz installed and I saw the desktop effects, but I can't seem to customize it? The desktop effect windows seems awfully simple. Is there any application I should be running?
[14:20] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: ccsm for config iirc
[14:21] <flaccid> concernedcitizen: anyway further help is in #compiz-fusion
[14:21] <Carroarmato0> They said that these permissions were set to allow multiple users to share files with each other, go in an account and look into the "Public" folder only.   However, they haven't thought about users organising their files and folders directly into the "Home" folder.
[14:23] <flaccid> yes i agree, only ~/Public should be world readable
[14:23] <Carroarmato0> The gravity of the situation depends entirely on what kind of files are exposed (secret document.... friends phone numbers....) and their permissions.
[14:23] <flaccid> well if that is all their response is, they don't have an argument
[14:24] <flaccid> well anything sensitive could be in there. and home is home
[14:24] <Carroarmato0> This issue can be solved quite eaasily by..... I don't know..... make a dialog box pop-up informing the users who want to store their files directly into their "Home" folder, that they need to pay close attention to their file's permissions, even if they are the only users of their system.
[14:25] <flaccid> nah it should be 770 by default
[14:25] <flaccid> or even 740 or 750
[14:27] <Carroarmato0> I believe, should I post this in a bug report, that flame wars could start only to discuss which permissions should be used. :)
[14:27] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: yeah i can't find one on launchpad, please put one up!
[14:28] <Carroarmato0> Yeah, I'll passed everything what I said here in the chat room.
[14:29] <flaccid> cool. if you can link me i'd like to watch it when its up
[14:31] <Carroarmato0> LOOk! I've found someone else's bug report stating the same exact problem and being denied by the Security Team with the same excuse!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136743
[14:32] <Carroarmato0> ow wait a sec..... Nope, that's my first post.... ^^'
[14:32] <Carroarmato0> my bad
[14:33] <Carroarmato0> It's set on "Won't Fix".   Should I continue by updating the post; or submit a new bug report?
[14:35] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: yeah re-open it and state that ~/Public is for sharing and homes should be private
[14:35] <Carroarmato0> ok
[14:36] <ubuntu__> hola
[14:36] <flaccid> using home for sharing thats not right to me at all
[14:36] <Miquel> hola
[14:37] <Miquel> me falla el sonido, alguien sabe como solucionarlo?
[14:38] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: i also don't know of any applications that manage permissions on the documents they open..
[14:39] <flaccid> 'noticed you saved that file in your home folder, do you want to make it private?' or File | Properties and change perms/make private.. i dont see these in kate or koffice or anything
[14:40] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  that's because these things don't exist yet
[14:41] <flaccid> yeah so its a bogus argument
[14:41] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  The situation today is:  an application like Kate, saves if it has writing permission. For the rest it doesn't care where or what it saves.
[14:42] <flaccid> yep
[14:42] <flaccid> its not the responsibility of applications at all
[14:42] <Carroarmato0> flaccid: This is clearly not an application issue.  This is something on the system side of things
[14:42] <flaccid> yeah im fully aware. im just citing the points
[14:43] <flaccid> ie. that dudes comment back
[14:44] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  I'm not a developer (yet), but I suppose a special daemon could be programed to wacht sensitive folders and show a message dialog to the user informing him/her of the risks.
[14:44] <Carroarmato0> *watch
[14:44] <flaccid> yeah but thats not good or necessary and reminds me of windows spyware
[14:44] <Smokeyo> windows owns?:P
[14:46] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: kees is online now, you should have a chat to him
[14:47] <Carroarmato0> flaccid: oh thx!
[14:48] <flaccid> np
[14:48] <Carroarmato0> flaccid: ow but I was thinking..... maybe it's better to file the bug instead of harrasing the man directly :D
[14:49] <flaccid> well i'd do both and try to be nice to him. but thats just me :O
[14:49] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  he can read my thoughts at he's own speed
[14:50] <flaccid> well what would help is finding some page on the web that talks about home folder default permissions and what they should be to back up our argument. need something in that sense i believe... maybe something on what other distros do
[14:51] <flaccid> os x does it like what we propose too iirc
[14:52] <Carroarmato0> ok I posted it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136743
[14:53] <Carroarmato0> now to find kees....
[14:54] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: you could re-open it and set status to Incomplete as well
[14:57] <Carroarmato0> fixed
[14:57] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: i just commented, refresh..
[14:57] <flaccid> Carroarmato0: hmm how do i edit my comment?
[14:58] <dawid> hi all :P
[14:58] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  errr..... no idea
[14:58] <flaccid> np
[14:58] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  seems like you can't
[14:59] <flaccid> yeah but you updated your initial report hmm
[14:59] <Carroarmato0> flaccid:  Yes, but that's the only thing I can edit
[14:59] <flaccid> okies
[15:00] <FabParma>  i tried pc-bsd distro with kde. inside the menus there is an utility to change the driver of video adapter that its like cups to configure a lan printer. do you think that dont exist for KUbunu a package/utility like that? Thank You
[15:00] <Carroarmato0> flaccid: hmm..... fat chance that kees  is at the KDE Akademy in Belgium? :D
[15:04] <_2> i need an MBR for a syslinux boot disk, anyone know where/how i might find/make one ?
[15:05] <dawid> could any one give me program that is easy to create programs??
[15:06] <_2> dawid kdevelop ?
[15:08] <amigo> Hi peoples! When kde3 be removed from ubuntu repositories?
[15:09] <_2> probably 3 or 4 years
[15:09] <amigo> _2, great
[15:10] <ced__> !compiz | ced
[15:10] <dawid> ok
[15:10] <ced__> needed that ^^
[15:10] <dawid> but i need it for ubuntu and on gnome sys
[15:10] <dawid> could any one give me program that is easy to create programs?? for ubuntu sys gnome
[15:10] <_2> dawid kdevelop ?
[15:10] <profoX-akademy> you are in the wrong channel
[15:11] <dawid> me??
[15:11] <profoX-akademy> yes, you are asking about creating GNOME applications, right?
[15:11] <_2> dawid #ubuntu  is over --> there
[15:11] <profoX-akademy> this is the kubuntu channel, we focus on KDE
[15:11] <dawid> it's not here
[15:11] <dawid> i only have kubuntu channel
[15:11] <dawid> :(
[15:12] <_2> ignorance is no excuse.    /join #ubuntu
[15:12] <dawid> thanks
[15:12] <profoX-akademy> dawid: are you sure you are running GNOME/Ubuntu ?
[15:12] <_2> also.  kdevelop can be used in gnome as well.
[15:12] <profoX-akademy> the #kubuntu channel is the default for the KDE IRC client Konversation in Kubuntu
[15:15] <_2> so what would be a good source for dos MBR ?
[15:16]  * _2 continues looking for a bootable floppy on hand...
[15:16] <geek_debian_hell> _2: how about freedos?
[15:17] <faileas> _2: failing which, a dos bootdisk
[15:18] <fbernard> g
[15:18] <KomiaPoika> what is package name for extra resolutions and video crads support again?
[15:18] <flaccid> KomiaPoika: that should all be there by default?
[15:19] <_2> faileas you have a download in mind ?    i was hoping for just the mbr not the full disk image.
[15:19] <_Frank> Hi all I am wondering if there's a built-in way in Ubuntu 8.04 to connect to a windows domain? I have some older PC's that I could use with Ubuntu but they need to be attached to the windows domain...
[15:19] <faileas> _2: er, then no. you will need to extract it yourself
[15:20] <Riddell> flaccid: you're wanting to work on improving the website?
[15:20] <_2> faileas yeah that's what i was afraid you said.
[15:21] <faileas> _2: there's no real reason for anyone to keep a MBR lying around ;p
[15:21] <flaccid> Riddell: yes sir
[15:21] <_2> i'm not sure a floppy mbr will work anyway...
[15:22] <flaccid> _2: need to use a dos util like in windows that will format with system disk option i guess
[15:23] <faileas> flaccid: so you'll need to do a minimal dos install and grab it off that >_>
[15:23] <flaccid> faileas: well i assume that system disk will do the mbr and also boot files in userland but i could be wrong
[15:24] <flaccid> there would have to be some unix binary out there that can do it
[15:25] <flaccid> like fdisk /mbr style
[15:25] <FabParma> i need to change the video adapter driver from sis to vesa. How to? Thanks
[15:25] <_2> flaccid yeah but i only have a M$ dos7  handy and it doesn't do usb drives   so using M$ to fix it is out.    and linux fails miserably at fixing it.
[15:26] <flaccid> _2: http://boudicca.tux.org/mhonarc/ma-linux/1999-mhonarc/1999-Nov/msg00446.html
[15:28] <flaccid> FabParma: System Settings -> Monitor & Display | Hardware tab - graphics card
[15:28] <_2> flaccid hehhe yeah, well i don't C or C++   but i'll remember that last line  :)
[15:29] <FabParma> flaccid: thanks. i bielieve there was need to use dkg-reconfigure
[15:29] <flaccid> FabParma: you could do it by that as well
[15:30] <FabParma> flaccid: thank for the infos
[15:30] <flaccid> np
[15:32] <tsuna27> how do i change the apperence of the windows on compiz
[15:32] <tsuna27> by apperance i mean
[15:32] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | tsuna27
[15:32] <tsuna27> the blue bar
[15:33] <tsuna27> thx
[15:33] <tsuna27> pce
[15:33] <flaccid> tsuna27: hint ccsm and emerald
[15:33] <tsuna27> whats ccsm
[15:33] <flaccid> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[15:36] <flaccid> FabParma: for the printer, System Settings -> Printers
[15:40] <_2> hmmm i just can't get syslinux to work for me.
[15:41] <flaccid> _2: the info on the persistent usb pendrive on the wiki is good
[15:42] <_2> yeah ?    says use syslinux   ...
[15:42] <flaccid> thing is i need to find a reliable way to mount the ext3 fs in windows. but yeah syslinux is pretty basic in reality on fat
[15:42] <flaccid> yeah is what it uses then you copy the livecd userland over
[15:42] <_2> mount as ext2   with their ext2 driver
[15:42] <flaccid> on the ext3 part
[15:43] <faileas> flaccid: i use the fsdriver.org driver
[15:43] <flaccid> yeah i use the driver in windows whatever its called but it doesn't work much for pendrives
[15:43] <flaccid> yeah i think thats the one i use faileas
[15:43] <_2> flaccid but are you mounting it ext2 or ext3     try mounting it as ext2
[15:44] <flaccid> i think i tried both
[15:44] <_2> k
[15:44] <_2> and yes usb drives are a pain in their own right
[15:44] <flaccid> i'll get back to that one day. stuff having a fat drive for storage and so forth i reckon in this case of portable desktop
[15:45] <flaccid> i mean a fat filesystem
[15:45] <_2> vfat fs
[15:45] <flaccid> any fat fat :O
[15:45] <flaccid> just a small fat for syslinux boot
[15:50] <sven_> hello, can anyone help me with amsn?
[15:51] <flaccid> sven_: #amsn
[15:51] <sven_> what?
[15:51] <sven_> I am a noob in kubuntu :)
[15:51] <flaccid> there is a channel for amsn
[15:51] <sven_> ah k
[15:51] <sven_> tx
[15:51] <sven_> but
[15:51] <flaccid> np you can type /join #amsn
[15:51] <sven_> that's not kubuntu related?
[15:52] <flaccid> amsn is a gnome/gtk app. you can ask here, but don't ask to ask, just ask your question with some detail
[15:52] <yao_ziyuan> long live kde3!
[15:53] <sven_> normally i install amsn with adept installer
[15:53] <sven_> but that version seems to fail
[15:53] <sven_> when i want to login
[15:53] <yao_ziyuan> adept considered harmful.
[15:53] <sven_> so I need to install the new version
[15:53] <flaccid> sven_: try to keep your question on 1 line
[15:53] <sven_> but no idea how
[15:53] <sven_> sorry
[15:53] <faileas> sven_: how about using apt? apt-get install amsn
[15:54] <faileas> *sudo apt-get install amsn (sorry, was messing with a debian server... ;p)
[15:54] <sven_> and to delete?
[15:54] <sven_> is it possible with apt-get? because i don't know the link between apt-get and adept installer
[15:56] <faileas> apt-get install to install apt-get remove to delete, apt-cache search to search
[15:56] <sven_> i will give it a try, thanx
[16:00] <trtwiggy> I have a quick question for a home media server with dual xeon 2.66 intels would u suggest kubuntu x32 or x64?
[16:01] <_CrashMaster_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36549/
[16:01] <_CrashMaster_> any clue what that means? output of dmesg
[16:03] <trappist> trtwiggy: I would suggest 32bit, if only because you'll have a hard time getting some codecs in 64bit
[16:03] <trtwiggy> kk thank you
[16:04] <trappist> _CrashMaster_: looks like you plugged in a cell phone or something
[16:05] <_CrashMaster_> trappist: Indeed. Now how do I use it?
[16:06] <trappist> _CrashMaster_: I'd start with google
[16:11] <IBMDoctor_3711> Any apache experts here??
[16:11] <IBMDoctor_3711> hello everyone .... Ubuntu Newbie here..
[16:12] <tsiros> where the hell is the configuration file for enabling/disabling compositing?!
[16:12] <psilocyde> Hi folks. I'm having a problem getting my sound to work. The card is an SB Audigy. Setting look right but no sound. Any help with be great.
[16:13] <tsiros> i enabled it frmo within X, it got borked and i can't find nothing now. xorg.conf doesn't have nothing in it. nor do other files.
[16:13] <Hamra> tsiros: K-menu--->system ---> desktop effects
[16:13] <tsiros> hamra: i am thick, but not *that* thick.
[16:13] <tsiros> Hamra: thank you for you consideration though.
[16:14] <tsiros> or should i say 'konsideration'... har har i crack me up...
[16:14] <Hamra> sorry, what is the problem you're having?
[16:14] <tsiros> i mean, krack... :/
[16:14] <psilocyde> oy
[16:14] <tsiros> like i said. i enabled 'effects' from where you said but it didn't work. now X won't show nothing. i have to alter the config from elsewhere. a .conf would be nice
[16:15] <tsiros> me and my impatient fingers :/ i knew i should first install the ATI driver and stuff before hitting that button :/
[16:15] <tsiros> halp!
[16:16] <tsiros> ah. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752868
[16:16] <tsiros> hamra: thanks for your effort man.
[16:17] <Hamra> i have a file in /home/willy/.kde/config called compizrc, could it be of any use?
[16:17] <tsiros> the page i pointed at mentions a "~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc"
[16:17] <tsiros> bye now :)
[16:17] <chipbuddy> so... this has nothing to do with kubuntu, but i'm going to ask this question anyway because generally i like the people in this room, and the answers they give. I'm installing delilinux on an old laptop, and i accidentally didn't specify the swap partition (it's there, i just hit "no" when it asked if i wanted to use it). How can i enable that swap partition from the command line?
[16:18] <traqn> help !!! I'm not able to watch any films.The picture is .......
[16:18] <Hamra> chipbuddy try running "swapon -a" as root
[16:19] <psilocyde> Can i get some help with my sound problem?
[16:21] <_2> !sound | psilocyde maybe this link ?
[16:21] <amigo> psilocyde, try ask google http://www.google.com/search?q=Audigy+no+sound+ubuntu+8.04&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[16:23] <psilocyde> i have asked google thanks amigo. i searched the forums. i have read through the wiki. ive tried the suggested solutions to no avail but thanks for your suggestion there buddy.
[16:25] <psilocyde> why is asking how to enable the swap partition in another distro somehow more worthy of a question than my own?
[16:27] <_2> psilocyde cause you should know ?     anyway.  if no help on sound   try  #alsa
[16:28] <psilocyde> I should know what sir?
[16:31] <trappist> psilocyde: is the emu10k1 module loaded?
[16:31] <psilocyde> yes
[16:32] <trappist> psilocyde: there are at least 3 volume settings that need to be non-zero in your mixer - volume, pcm, and one other... master maybe?
[16:32] <trappist> (I don't have an audigy handy)
[16:33] <_2> psilocyde "why is asking how to enable the swap partition in another distro somehow more worthy of a question than my own?" <<< non-sensical question.   how to enable a swap space is swapon   how to trouble shoot alsa problems is not a "yes or no" question.   if the wiki didn't know    it's likely that few if any in here will know.     sorry if that seems as if we have "neglected you"   it's just a matter of questions that can be an
[16:34] <psilocyde> " it's just a matter of questions that can be a"
[16:35] <_2> questions that can be answered easily  and those that can't      maybe it was turncated...
[16:35] <psilocyde> whatever im not trying to be a jerk.
[16:36] <trappist> psilocyde: so, how about those volume 'knobs'?
[16:36] <psilocyde> trappist yes they are all up
[16:37] <psilocyde> ill go bug the guys in alsa on this one
[16:38] <dolo> anyone know what this error means ? usplash: can't get console font: Invalid argument
[16:39] <_2> dolo sounds like a bad font specified
[16:39] <_2> !usplash | dolo
[16:40] <dolo> !dork
[16:41] <dolo> i can type !usplash too
[16:42] <dolo> following the tutorial on that page is whats given me the error
[16:43] <dolo> ive posted on launchpad the bug on luanchpad
[16:43] <dolo> been asking around for help with it
[16:43] <dolo> and everybody just types !usplash
[16:44] <dolo> like for the past 4 days i havent gotten that same dumb link 30 times
[16:45] <_2> dolo frustrating isn't it.
[16:46] <ikonia> dolo: is it a bug, or do you not know how to do it ?
[16:47] <dolo> im guessing its a bug since in the tutorial it says to use the example in my example folder came with ubuntu but when i compile it and try to use it i keep getting the same error
[16:47] <ikonia> dolo: ok, which tutorial ?
[16:47] <dolo> !usplash
[16:47] <ikonia> dolo: and which command is failing ?
[16:47] <dolo> none of the commands fail
[16:47] <dolo> i compile it
[16:47] <dolo> looks fine
[16:48] <dolo> then when i go to use it
[16:48] <ikonia> first of all - are you aware this is for edgy
[16:48] <dolo> it doesnt work
[16:48] <_2> you aren't omitteing the posted commands ^ are you?
[16:48] <dolo> i get that error in console
[16:48] <tsuna27> !compiz
[16:48] <dolo> inside the folder    /usr/share/doc/libusplash-dev/examples/
[16:49] <dolo> is an example theme
[16:49] <dolo> with make file
[16:49] <dolo> i used the make file to compile the .so theme
[16:49] <dolo> i load the theme
[16:49] <dolo> update
[16:49] <ikonia> what is the error you get ?
[16:49] <dolo> and when i try to use it i get the error
[16:49] <ikonia> what error, I've not seen you post an error yet
[16:49] <dolo> usplash: can't get console font: Invalid argument
[16:50] <ikonia> dolo: ok - so you know its centered around the font
[16:50] <ikonia> so lets look at those steps
[16:51] <dolo> ubuntu comes with the example theme
[16:51] <ikonia> yes
[16:51] <dolo> u can find it on your own pc in the folder
[16:52] <dolo>  /usr/share/doc/libusplash-dev/examples/
[16:52] <ikonia> yes, I can see that I'm reading the document
[16:52] <_2>  /bin/ls: /usr/share/doc/libusplash-dev/examples: No such file or directory
[16:52] <dolo> theres even a make file to build it
[16:52] <dolo> but once its built it doesnt work
[16:52] <ikonia> ok ?
[16:52] <KomiaPoika> is there a xorg config maker like xorgconfig in kubuntu 8.04?