[09:34] <Toma-> yeh. that why i said, it'll make future searches alot faster
[09:34] <Toma-> :)
[09:34] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6302  my error message
[09:34] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[09:35] <|Lestat|> if lsusb detects a device, how can i find out what that devices interface name is?
[09:35] <QQ_ghost> ian_: error 404? for mounting a partition?
[09:35] <Toma-> i like to run updatedb -a while reading my emails
[09:35] <|Lestat|> anyone? :P
[09:36] <Toma-> |Lestat|: id like to know that too :)
[09:36] <ian_> well i followed the tutorial it said i need to connect to some site to get the script first...
[09:36] <Toma-> |Lestat|: what kind of device is it?
[09:36] <PsycoEwok> Sepheebear: alright, thanks for the help
[09:36] <|Lestat|> it is a usb wireless device
[09:36] <QQ_ghost> |Lestat|: did you try the device manager in X?
[09:36] <Toma-> also |Lestat|, lsusb doesnt mean a driver has been loaded for it yet
[09:36] <|Lestat|> uhm, no i dont think i have tried that
[09:37] <Sepheebear> PsycoEwok: sorry never seen that error, google it though, might help
[09:37] <cptmorgan> is there a way to reconfigure ssh... i reinstall it but i can get configs :/
[09:37] <PsycoEwok> k
[09:37] <|Lestat|> well, i loaded the driver with ndiswrapper, says the device is there, but i cant get iwconfig ir ifconfig to list the device
[09:38] <Morrowyn> morning
[09:38] <Toma-> try restarting networking
[09:38] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what tutorial was that? on-line or ...
[09:38] <|Lestat|> whats the command for that?
[09:38] <Toma-> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:38] <ian_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions this one
[09:38] <Morrowyn> i installed nvidia-glx but when i startx it totally hangs on me after X says: loading module nvidia
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: hangs?
[09:39] <intelikey> that's one nasty error PsycoEwok,   i can't help but just commenting on it.
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: have you tried tail'ing /var/log/messages?
[09:39] <Linfan> can somebody please tell me how to access xcompmgr
[09:39] <Linfan> so that i can set effects
[09:39] <Morrowyn> yup, screen stays black, i cant cntrl-alt-backspace it
[09:39] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what i do is put it in my fstab with noauto...
[09:39] <Linfan> i have searched everywhere followed how tos but nothing
[09:39] <|Lestat|> i did the /et/init.d/networking restart but still nothing in ifconfig or iwconfig
[09:39] <Toma-> Morrowyn: and this is after you've switched to ctl-alt-f7?
[09:40] <|Lestat|> i dont have the device in /etc/networking/interfaces, i dunno if its supposed to be in there
[09:40] <ian_> qq_ghost...sorry but im really new to linux how do i do that?
[09:40] <Morrowyn> linfan, i remember you need to add xcomp entries in xorg.conf set to true ....
[09:40] <Toma-> |Lestat|: have you tried using the networking tool in System > Admin?
[09:40] <Morrowyn> no, i just run it from recovery mode startx
[09:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal
[09:40] <Linfan> i followed the how to until it was time to set the settings-when i copied and pasted it kept saying not valid
[09:41] <Toma-> Linfan: its pretty unsupported at the moment. i wouldnt try it unless you knew exactly what u were doing.
[09:41] <ian_> yep i have one open now
[09:41] <Linfan> ohh ok
[09:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: are you familiar with vi?
[09:41] <Toma-> Linfan: put your xorg.conf up on a pastebin and i might fix it for you ;)
[09:41] <tjb13_> hey can anyone help me get sleep to work on my thinkpad
[09:41] <|Lestat|> I have used the networking tool in kde, system > networking
[09:41] <ian_> no not really
[09:41] <ian_> all i know is simple commands....
[09:41] <Morrowyn> xcomp is pretty slow, i ran it on kde for a while but the transparency stuff awefully slow, shadowing wasnt really stable as well, so i ditched it in the end
[09:41] <Linfan> how to access the xorg file?
[09:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: but you know the basics?
[09:42] <Toma-> Linfan: :/
[09:42] <ian_> the very basics.... not the advance basics
[09:42] <Linfan> hahaha
[09:42] <Morrowyn> linfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:42] <Linfan> i just installed ubuntu tiday sorry
[09:42] <Morrowyn> if you know what you are doing ofc
[09:42] <Toma-> Linfan: you sure you wanna try it? it may leave you with no gui and hence, no IRC + help
[09:42] <Morrowyn> if not, dont touch it
[09:42] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo vi /etc/fstab
[09:42] <Morrowyn> toma, irssi :)
[09:42] <ian_> ok
[09:42] <|Lestat|> in network settings all i see is ppp0
[09:42] <Toma-> irssi sux :O imho.
[09:42] <intelikey> nano   guys   nano
[09:42] <gerald-volt> is there a deb package for cedega?
[09:42] <gerald-volt> i can't seem to find it in apt-cache
[09:42] <ian_> got it
[09:43] <Linfan> well i just did what you told me and i have nothing but blue lines
[09:43] <Toma-> gerald-volt: yes, but you have to buy it from cedega
[09:43] <Morrowyn> or any other cli irc client
[09:43] <gerald-volt> is there a cvs version/
[09:43] <Sepheebear> forget nano use pequeno
[09:43] <Toma-> gerald-volt: yep
[09:43] <gerald-volt> i remember there was cvs-cedega
[09:43] <thoreauputic> gerald-volt: you have to pay for cedega - unless you want to compile a cvs version yourself
[09:43] <ubuntu> k
[09:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: go to the bottom line and go into INS mode
[09:43] <ian_> then a table went up listing my drives including cd rom dvd floppy and 2 partitions which ubuntu is in...
[09:43] <gerald-volt> where do i get the cvs version
[09:43] <Linfan> in the bottom it says "/etx/x11/xorg.conf" {new file}
[09:43] <Morrowyn> is cedega free if you use a cvs version ?
[09:43] <eobanb> pequeno?
[09:44] <gerald-volt> what's the difference between cvs and regular
[09:44] <Morrowyn> linfan , sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   its case sensitive :)
[09:44] <Wilf> Linfan, /etc/, not /etx/...
[09:44] <Toma-> gerald-volt: alot.
[09:44] <ian_> how do i get to INS mode|?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> I think there's a cvs version - but where to get it I don't know
[09:44] <Morrowyn> select - middle mouse click in terminal :)
[09:44] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: hit the insert key
[09:44] <thoreauputic> gerald-volt: cvs is normally the latest developmant version
[09:44] <lampshade> Hey, I'm building a kinda stereo machine, and although there are command line mp3 players, I want to have playlists, etc, so I figured I was going to install a window manager like XFce, I just wanted to ask the channel for suggestions or better ideas before I go ahead and do this
[09:45] <Toma-> gerald-volt: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[09:45] <Morrowyn> lampshade, i use xmms
[09:45] <Toma-> lampshade: dont use xfce.
[09:45] <Morrowyn> but there are other music players around
[09:45] <ian_> ok sorry about that
[09:45] <thoreauputic> guys, you are braver than me trying to talk someone new through using vi ;)
[09:45] <|Lestat|> Aparently with this driver config the inf files are supposed to be able to pull the firmware, but i dunno how to initialize the device.... stupid wireless
[09:46] <Toma-> lampshade: just have a script that starts X and xmms. maaaaaybe fluxbox. but you dont really need a WM
[09:46] <intelikey> thoreauputic tell me.
[09:46] <Morrowyn> http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html  make the new someone read this :)
[09:46] <ian_> ok whats next...
[09:46] <intelikey> or WORD   or what ever the vernacular is for you.
[09:46] <lampshade> Toma-:  hmmm that's not a bad idea either.  I forgot about fluxbox
[09:46] <thoreauputic> intelikey: :)
[09:47] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: it should say  -- INSERT -- at the bottom left...
[09:47] <Toma-> lampshade: you want the thinnest wm possible if anything :)
[09:47] <ian_> yep
[09:47] <Toma-> maybe even ratpoison
[09:47] <ian_> it has that
[09:47] <Morrowyn> http://math.la.asu.edu/vi_tutorial/vi3.html  or this one if you dont wanna read a lot :)
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: vimtutor is not bad :)
[09:47] <Morrowyn> dunno know about that one :)\
[09:47] <lampshade> Toma-:  how is xmms at things like playlists, library organization, basically, I'm looking for winamp for Linux.  I am also awaiting "SongBird" and am hoping that will be cross platform like Firefox
[09:47] <Morrowyn> i used vi tutorial in google
[09:47] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:47] <intelikey> nano   :)
[09:47] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: make a new line somewhere (preferably at the bottom)
[09:47] <eclair> lampshade: xmms is like winamp
[09:48] <coNP> emacs is the one true editor :)
[09:48] <eclair> lampshade: even the interface
[09:48] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[09:48] <ubotu> intelikey: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:48] <Toma-> lampshade: XMMS is great for playlists. its also non-DE specific like amarok and rhythmbox
[09:48] <QQ_ghost> ubotu, start an editor war
[09:48] <ian_> yes
[09:48] <Morrowyn> isnt vi the default unix editor and emacs not ?
[09:48] <lampshade> eclair:  well, hopefully the "Media Library" area would be the same, something like wher I can choose an Artist and it displays only the songs from that artist like winamp does
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: well, yes - but the default in Ubuntu and debian is nano
[09:49] <Morrowyn> is it?
[09:49] <intelikey> it is
[09:49] <eclair> lampshade: iirc, it does
[09:49] <coNP> Morrowyn: nano is the default
[09:49] <lampshade> sweet
[09:49] <Toma-> lampshade: beep media player is a bit better looking tho.
[09:49] <eclair> lampshade: although i am currently mainly using mpg321...
[09:49] <Toma-> lampshade: also, xmms and bmp both support winamp classic skins. not the modern ones tho :(
[09:49] <Morrowyn> i always use vi , because every unix box has it, saves me swithcing back and forth
[09:50] <Morrowyn> between editors and such
[09:50] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: type /dev/(partition here)   /media/ntfs    ntfs  ro,user,noauto      0       0
[09:50] <ian_> im at the bottom.... sorry but what do you mean by creating a new line
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: yes, a lot of people do that
[09:50] <ian_> ok
[09:50] <coNP> Morrowyn: you are right
[09:50] <lampshade> VI for the win
[09:50] <QQ_ghost> Ian_: a new empty line
[09:50] <intelikey> i always use mc -e   cause every linux box i mess with has mc on it  lol
[09:50] <eclair> Morrowyn: true true
[09:51] <Toma-> who cares about editors? its like comparing apples to oranges. personally i prefer bannanas. (eg, mc)
[09:51] <lampshade> I take it fluxbox isn't in the normal repos?  my apt-cache search returned nothing promising.  World?
[09:51] <ian_> yep, wait with the command that you tyoped...(partition here) what partion name should i put there the windows partition name?
[09:51] <QQ_ghost> i LOVE vi damnit!!!
[09:51] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[09:51] <coNP> I use "sudo apt-get install emacs21 && emacs" :)
[09:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[09:51] <Toma-> lampshade: you need universe and multiverse
[09:51] <sudhir> hi I am mounting windows shared on ubuntu
[09:51] <Morrowyn> :)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> lampshade: universe
[09:51] <sudhir> but gettu] ing error unknowns fs type
[09:51] <lampshade> thoreauputic:  thanks
[09:51] <ian_> or is it like the hda1
[09:51] <QQ_ghost> ian_: yup, the windows partition
[09:51] <Toma-> !info blackbox
[09:51] <ubotu> blackbox: (Window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.70.0-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 367 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB
[09:52] <Morrowyn> well sometimes you are on a box, where you are just a user and arent allowed to install anything ....
[09:52] <otep> sudhir: Places > Connect to server...
[09:52] <eclair> lampshade: want to try out wmaker too?
[09:52] <sudhir> i did  sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=sud //<IP_ADDRESS>/mp3 s
[09:52] <QQ_ghost> ian_: it's the hd something, where windows is...
[09:52] <Toma-> window maker is too complex
[09:52] <Toma-> for a simple mp3 box
[09:52] <ealden> sudhir: s/smbfs/cifs ?
[09:52] <sudhir> it says wrong fs type :(
[09:52] <lampshade> I've used fluxbox before and liked it so I will probably stick with it.  Especially since this is just a little stereo box,  mp3's and maybe a small webserver only on it.
[09:52] <thoreauputic> for an mp3 box I would probably use blackbox - it's even lighter than fluxbox
[09:53] <eclair> Toma-: well, yeah. you are right... ratpoison maybe?
[09:53] <Toma-> yeh ratpoison i suggested before :D
[09:53] <lampshade> blackbox eh?  I haven't even heard of that, I'll have to google it
[09:53] <Toma-> !info ratpoison
[09:53] <sudhir> ealden : yeh
[09:53] <ubotu> ratpoison: (Simple window manager with no fat library dependencies), section universe/x11, is extra. Version: 1.3.0-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[09:53] <Morrowyn> fluxbox is nice
[09:53] <ian_> ok just to be clear.... i ahve two hard drives. first drive has windows c: d: e: , and on the second conatinign the f:,  how will i be able to name the partitions for windows?
[09:53] <Toma-> lampshade: thats another option &&
[09:53] <thoreauputic> lampshade: fluxbox is based on blackbox -they are quite similar
[09:53] <Toma-> see the installed size :D sweet
[09:54] <eclair> Toma-: i didn't see that... i just caught part of the conversation :)
[09:54] <sudhir> wht might be the problem
[09:54] <QQ_ghost> ian_: what do you mean name the partitions for windows?
[09:54] <Morrowyn> ian, /dev/hda1 /hda2/hda3 prolly if you have an ide drive, sda1 etc. would be for sata drives and then mount then somewhere you like :)
[09:54] <intelikey> ian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:54] <ealden> sudhir: I think you should use cifs and not smbfs
[09:54] <ian_> i mean how will i know the exact name... like when i was installign ubuntu i while ago tags like hda1, hda2,hdb1 ....how will i be able to poitn out which is which... and which are existing...
[09:54] <sudhir> okie
[09:55] <sudhir> let me try
[09:55] <Morrowyn> unix doesnt work with c: drives since everything is a directory on unix, so you c: drive would be a directory somewhere on your filesystem, and thus ou need to mount it somewehre
[09:55] <QQ_ghost> ealden: what is cifs?
[09:55] <intelikey> ian_ do      fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:55] <Morrowyn> fdisk -l :)
[09:55] <sudhir> ealden : wow
[09:55] <Toma-> anyone know how to stop metacity from auto-reloading?
[09:55] <sudhir> ealden : thanks it worked fine
[09:55] <ealden> QQ_ghost: IIRC its the new name of smb
[09:55] <ealden> sudhir: cool :)
[09:56] <youngcoder> how can i install this??  jre-1_5_0_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[09:56] <intelikey> killall gdm Toma-  :)
[09:56] <thoreauputic> youngcoder: don't
[09:56] <Morrowyn> sh <name> or ./<name>
[09:56] <Toma-> gdm?!
[09:56] <sudhir> ealden : i never heard of cifs file system
[09:56] <melodie> hello :)
[09:56] <ian_> entered that on the same termianl at the buttom line nothing showed up
[09:56] <thoreauputic> !tell youngcoder about java
[09:56] <ealden> sudhir: its smb renamed I think. common internet fs IIRC
[09:56] <intelikey> Toma- may not be what you want tho
[09:56] <Morrowyn> but you dont wanna do that on ubuntu :)
[09:56] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a new terminal and type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:56] <ealden> youngcoder: there is a howto on the wiki on installing java
[09:56] <melodie> I put a question on ubuntu at users, but no answer yet, about kernel-sources and kernel-headers
[09:57] <Toma-> intelikey: just wanna killall metacity, so i can run ratpoison instead :D just to try
[09:57] <sudhir> ealden : coz when I checked in connct -->server -->properties, it said file system as smb
[09:57] <ian_> cannot open
[09:57] <ian_> cannot open /dev/hda
[09:57] <coNP> ian_ try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[09:58] <intelikey> Toma- use ps  and  tree mode display   and kill what ever is calling metacity
[09:58] <melodie> does anyone here know what are the right packages to match with a 2.6.12-10-k7
[09:58] <melodie>  in order to get KQemu to compile correctly, please ?
[09:58] <sudhir> ian : try fdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:58] <ealden> sudhir: from wikipedia: Microsoft coincidentally launched an initiative in 1998 to rename SMB to Common Internet File System (CIFS)
[09:58] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sorry : /  forgot the sudo part....
[09:58] <coNP> sudhir: only root can do that :)
[09:58] <ian_> sudo :fdisk command not found
[09:58] <melodie> as the kernel-source in Synaptic (multiverse) is not the same number (2.6.11xx)
[09:58] <thoreauputic> ian_: not possible...
[09:58] <sudhir> ealden : thanks for info
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ian_: fdisk *has* to be there
[09:59] <ian_> no such file or directory
[09:59] <Morrowyn> ian, you have a sata drive in your box?
[09:59] <intelikey> fdisk command not found ?    path error.
[09:59] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:59] <sudhir> ealden : I am a nfs server running  redhat 9, how to mount that Ubuntu
[09:59] <ian_> no my mistake on the command not found i mistyped fdisk to fdsik
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ah
[10:00] <Morrowyn> mount <ipadress>:/path/to/export/dir /<yourmountoint>
[10:00] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  what partitions are type ntfs?
[10:00] <lampshade> wait, so fluxbox is actually based off of blackbox?  Why the split?  Like what does fluxbox do or what did they want it to do that blackbox didn't?
[10:00] <Morrowyn> you could add -t nfs
[10:00] <thoreauputic> lampshade: for a while bb wasn't developed - and fluxbox has tabs and other goodies
[10:00] <ealden> lampshade: extra features, I think
[10:00] <ealden> sudhir: sorry I don't have experience with NFS yet
[10:01] <ian_> got it....hda1 , hda5 , hda6 are all hpfs/ntfs while hda2 is w95 ext'd (LBA)
[10:01] <ealden> :|
[10:01] <ealden> hehe
[10:01] <Morrowyn> make sure : sudo apt-get install portmap :) if you wanna mount nfs exports
[10:01] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  keep that terminal open...
[10:01] <lampshade> hmm
[10:02] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  now go back to the fstab
[10:02] <Morrowyn> oh feck it, ill just install the nvidia drivers myself :P
[10:02] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  the other terminal
[10:02] <ian_> ok/....i also did the fdisk on hdb since i have 1 ntfs partition there containing files... im sharing my nd hd with linux
[10:02] <ian_> ok im in fstab
[10:02] <intelikey> iirc bb forked to flux because of conflicting opinions among developers.   google probably has the whole story.
[10:02] <Morrowyn> oh btw, iirc you dont have write access to ntfs mounts
[10:03] <thoreauputic> intelikey: possibly - but fluxbox is pretty much backward compatible with blackbox (menus, styles etc)
[10:03] <electrofish> lampshade: pwm like tabs is one diff
[10:03] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: you remember correctly :)
[10:03] <QQ_ghost> Ian_:  do you know how to use the paste here?
[10:04] <Morrowyn> :) thanks
[10:04] <QQ_ghost> !paste
[10:04] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:04] <ian_> qq ghost can i have the comamnd for the fstab again i cant seem to see it when i scxroll up on this chat window
[10:04] <intelikey> yes it was just a "we want to do this"   "no we're doing this"   thing as i recall
[10:04] <sudhir1> does ubuntu support as NIS client ?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> intelikey: as far as I know blackbox kind of stopped at about version 0.65 and has only recently been revived
[10:05] <thoreauputic> as in, further developed
[10:05] <intelikey> yes because of the split
[10:05] <lampshade> if I uncomment universe, do I want to automatically uncomment universe security as well?  I would assume so  (in my sources list)
[10:05] <KaRupT> How do I run the dpkg reconfigure oxorg?????
[10:05] <ealden> thoreauputic: yeh for 2 years I think
[10:05] <thoreauputic> lampshade: yes
[10:05] <KaRupT> xorg*
[10:05] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  highlight the whole terminal and goto edit menu and select copy
[10:06] <thoreauputic> KaRupT:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:06] <intelikey> ox-org  :)
[10:07] <ian_> sorry thats what i want the command for fstab again i accidental;ly closed the terminal/..
[10:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: apt-get moo  ;-)
[10:07] <Toma-> oooo this takes me back :D ive even got my old .fluxbox folder from ages ago heheh
[10:07] <intelikey> ;/
[10:07] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:07] <thoreauputic> intelikey: have you tried it ?
[10:07] <ian_> doi paste it here?
[10:07] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  no, goto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:07] <Mabus06> I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card.
[10:08] <intelikey> the apt-get command ?     no apt here if that is what you meant thoreauputic
[10:08] <QQ_ghost> ian_:  then paste the web address here...
[10:08] <thoreauputic> intelikey: what are you running?
[10:08] <intelikey> linux for humans
[10:08] <thoreauputic> *cough*
[10:08] <ian_> ok i pasted it already http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6303
[10:08] <intelikey> but not ubuntu :)
[10:08] <thoreauputic> intelikey: I gathered :)
[10:09] <coNP> intelikey: then what?
[10:09] <QQ_ghost> ian_: hold on...
[10:09] <intelikey> why does it matter what distro i use ?
[10:09] <ian_> ok
[10:09] <thoreauputic> intelikey: it doesn't.... and it would be off topic anyway :)
[10:09] <QQ_ghost> ian_: now do your fstab
[10:10] <intelikey> and trolling
[10:10] <QQ_ghost> ian_: the pastey-thing
[10:10] <steven_> can anyone PLEASE help me with a problem with ubuntu
[10:10] <Toma-> hey Amaranth, did you make a metacity theme by any chance?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> steve__: if you tell us what it is, maybe
[10:10] <QQ_ghost> lol
[10:10] <Amaranth> nope
[10:10] <ian_> now i entered sudo vi /etc/hda again and this what came up.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6304
[10:10] <Toma-> oic.
[10:11] <Toma-> theres a metacity theme with your name :O
[10:11] <steven_> i can't seem to burn any cd's..  i have dma on.. i have tried to burn 2 so far both failed, and whenver i do simulation with k3b it fails
[10:11] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:11] <maskd> hey just wanted to ask a question, anybody else with flight 2 version of dapper, was eth0 disabled by default?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> steven_: are you running gnome or KDE?
[10:11] <redguy|work> does anyone know if splashy is going to replace usplash?
[10:11] <steven_> thoreauputic, gnome
[10:12] <thoreauputic> steve__: have you tried using the nautilus burner? What kind of CD are you burning? What file type etc?
[10:12] <Mabus06> I just installed a new motherboard and video card, and I reinstalled ubuntu. But my X doesn't want to work. It is a ATI Radeon X700 Pro card. Also, since it's a fresh install how to I get lynx to be installed so I can browse for help with my issue.
[10:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, i need to be able to burn mp3 to audio cd, and data
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, im doing a simulation now with k3b using "raw" mode seems to be working
[10:13] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo rm /etc/.fstab.swp
[10:13] <ian_> ok here is the new one i delted the older one
[10:13] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6305
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, but my device buffer floats around alot
[10:13] <ealden> Mabus06: not sure with the videocard thing, but to get lnyx do a `sudo apt-get install lynx`
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, it failed lol
[10:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: install k3b-mp3
[10:13] <thoreauputic>  for mp3 burning
[10:13] <intelikey> i mean to say "ok guys i use mandrake cause i can't stand ubuntu"  would hardly be welcome in #ubuntu   and i have always avoided such but for the record, my favorite distro is mdk  although i haven't tried debian (R)  or  gentoo (R)   and i have dialup so i probably don't upgrade like the rest of you.  and can't just run the flavour of the month at will.
[10:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have that
[10:13] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:13] <Mabus06> that didn't work, steven_, it's a fresh install I don't think I have the right sources.
[10:14] <Mabus06> I'm familiar with apt-get :P
[10:14] <steven_> thoreauputic, failed again, can i pastebin you my error?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK
[10:15] <thoreauputic> steven_: have you tried running k3b from a terminal to see what errors are getting spat out?
[10:15] <intelikey> now i'll refrain from mentioning distros in the future (as much as possable at least)
[10:15] <steven_> thoreauputic, no.
[10:15] <QQ_ghost> ian_: hold on...
[10:15] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have the write error log though paste binning one sec
[10:15] <ealden> Mabus06: ok
[10:15] <tuskernini> hi there all...
[10:15] <ian_> ok ,,,
[10:15] <thoreauputic> and mis-spells it :D
[10:15] <intelikey> like that one fine too
[10:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:16] <tuskernini> have an hardware upgrade question...
[10:16] <steven_> thoreauputic, god damnit i had the error cut now it disapeered off to simulate i go i guess
[10:16] <intelikey> ask it
[10:16] <|Lestat|> what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[10:16] <steven_> thoreauputic, how do i do the terminal thing with simulate so i see the problems?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> steven_: start it from a terminal so you can see what the heck it does
[10:17] <melodie> re  :)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> just type k3b in a terminal
[10:17] <tuskernini> i am upgrading my motherboard and want to use my hdd to start up on it... but i encounter problems with the screen etc... now i am in a live cd and it works fine... how can i transfer the settings from here to my hdd?
[10:17] <melodie> anyone who could help me ?
[10:17] <Morrowyn> slackware is nice :)
[10:17] <steven_> k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[10:18] <Morrowyn> sudo k3d ?
[10:18] <tuskernini> i know that live cd loads too much drivers... but i would not like to reinstall ubuntu on my aold hdd
[10:18] <thoreauputic> steven_: have you run the k3b setup?
[10:18] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea everything has permission
[10:18] <redguy|work> !ask
[10:18] <Mabus06> How do I get my multiverse and universe repos available without GNOME
[10:19] <intelikey> tuskernini i don't think you want to do it that way.   try booting the installed ub and use  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    to get a login console and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:19] <thoreauputic> steven_: does it report any missing programs? Is it pointing at the right CD device?
[10:19] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea it's using the right device, one sec
[10:19] <ealden> Mabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[10:19] <mrkoje> Mabus06,   use the command line editor vim
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <Mabus06> and do what with it?
[10:19] <mrkoje> Mabus06,      sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <steven_> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6306
[10:20] <mrkoje> Mabus06,  uncomment the lines
[10:20] <thoreauputic> mrkoje: I would recommend nano unless he's used to vim
[10:20] <intelikey> tuskernini that will allow linux to reconfigure the system for the new hardware.
[10:20] <Mabus06> ok, easy enough, thanks, brb
[10:20] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK hang on a tick
[10:20] <mrkoje> thoreauputic,  Mabus06  good point. Nano is friendlier
[10:20] <|Lestat|> what does it mean if when i type ndiswrapper -m i get a message back saying "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[10:20] <melodie> redguy|work, what and where (save multiverse) are the right kernel-sources and headers to match my 2.6.12-10-k7
[10:20] <melodie>  ? I need to have them in the system to compile KQemu with Qemu :)
[10:20] <polpak> thoreauputic: agreed. I don't know why ppl point new users to vim. I use it, but I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to be able to dive into it
[10:21] <ealden> Mabus06: uncomment the lines that pertain to multiverse and universe
[10:21] <pl_ice> hey thoreauputic ;)
[10:21] <melodie> the multiverse version is a 2.6.11 something, and I am no sure it was not the cause of failure when I tried, a few weeks ago  :(
[10:21] <tuskernini> intelikey, thanx but i can not even start to boot the system... i will try the f1 sequence thanx
[10:22] <Mabus06> the 'sudo vim etc/apt/sources.list' command doesn't work
[10:22] <thoreauputic> steven_: ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:22] <thoreauputic>   <-- what does that say?
[10:22] <steven_> thoreauputic, here is the text from my terminal also, i dont think its relevant though
[10:22] <steven_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6307
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: /etc (you left out a / )
[10:22] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok one second
[10:23] <tuskernini> intelikey, my system halts before ubuntu boots...
[10:23] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:23] <thoreauputic> steven_: Ok that's the problem
[10:23] <Mabus06> that nor nano will open
[10:24] <lampshade> ok, so I just apt-get installed fluxbox, but I have a feeling it did not install X first, is that something I have to do lol
[10:24] <tuskernini> intelikey,i have a flatscreen, might be that
[10:24] <redguy|work> melodie: hrm, they're supposed to be in linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7
[10:24] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok, what do i need to do
[10:24] <QQ_ghost> ian_: back...
[10:24] <QQ_ghost> ian_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6308
[10:24] <lampshade> at least which startx returns nothing so I figure it didn't
[10:24] <thoreauputic> steven_: hang on a second and I'll tell you
[10:24] <redguy|work> melodie: which in turn should be in the regular repositories
[10:24] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok thanks a million
[10:24] <Ticho> lampshade: returns nothing or doesn't exist ?
[10:25] <ian_> ok
[10:25] <melodie> redguy|work, does this package contain the sources as well ?
[10:25] <guillermo> hi people
[10:25] <QQ_ghost> ian_: let me know if that works
[10:25] <lampshade> Ticho:?  Umm  the command returns nothing  just right back to prompt
[10:25] <thoreauputic> steven_: first do   sudo chgrp cdrom /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:25] <tuskernini> ok all, rebooting.. wish me luck!
[10:26] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?
[10:26] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:26] <Morrowyn> hmmmm, my system keeps nagging me about: nvidia kernel module is 1.0.7174 and my nvidia module version is 7667, however i installed the nvidia-kernel-common, which is 1.0.7667 any ideas?
[10:26] <intelikey> oh my!     tuskernini   if you copy the configs from the running live cd  in /etc  it will probably break lots of things.   so i can not sujest that.    although you don't want to reinstall, it is probably the best bet.    backup  the home dir on the installed ubuntu and reinstall is my advice.  although i know you don't want to hear that.
[10:26] <lampshade> and I don't see an xorg.conf so I'm pretty sure it didn't install
[10:26] <steven_> thoreauputic, done
[10:26] <thoreauputic> steven_: then do sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:26] <tuskernini> ahhH!!!
[10:27] <thoreauputic> steven_: then tell me what   ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord    says
[10:27] <melodie> redguy|work, I suppose yes, I find this in 'apt-cache show': Filename: pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7_2.6.12-10.25_i386.deb
[10:27] <tuskernini> ok will do... have anoter hdd that i can use and just run this one on slave
[10:27] <melodie> wao!
[10:27] <tuskernini> intelikey, thanks
[10:27] <DonVinzk> Hi, I will buy a new PC, and so I have a few questions about ubuntu. First of all: if I buy an amd_64, I will download the required distribution. But will I find all the packages available for my architecture ? Or the most important is to have the kernel compiled for the 64 and then the package themselves can be taken compiled for x86 ?
[10:27] <intelikey> tuskernini welcome.  sorry i can't do more
[10:27] <melodie> redguy|work, is that right then ? :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> steven_: ?
[10:28] <lampshade> If I want to install xorg, xserver-xorg is the package I want, correct?
[10:28] <steven_> thoreauputic, sorry back
[10:28] <steven_> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steven_:  hmm did you do the chmod +s  ?
[10:29] <melodie> DonVinzk, you would appreciate better a 32 bits, with good components, memory, fast cpu... diverse things are a pain in the a** for 64 bit computer users as I see on the net
[10:29] <Mabus06> is it possible for me to wget a sources.list?
[10:29] <steven_> thoreauputic, no one second sorry
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steven_: you need to do that too
[10:29] <intelikey> Mabus06 sure
[10:29] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:29] <intelikey> !sorces
[10:29] <ubotu> intelikey: I give up, what is it?
[10:29] <Mabus06> intelikey: from where?
[10:30] <intelikey> !repos
[10:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:30] <melodie> redguy|work, you didn't confirm so I suppose it's right: thanks, I start dl know and I go get breakfast :))
[10:30] <Mabus06> intelikey: isn't that for gnome?
[10:30] <intelikey> wget that and edit it ^
[10:30] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK now try burning again
[10:30] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok in auto mode?
[10:30] <KaRupT> is there a repository to get americas army???
[10:30] <intelikey> no sources are not desktop specific
[10:30] <thoreauputic> steven_: just try it - iyt should work Ithink
[10:30] <Mabus06> I meant, isn't the howto designed for gnome users.
[10:31] <steven_> thoreauputic, o
[10:31] <steven_> k
[10:31] <DonVinzk> melodie: another issue is that the PC I were interested in has shared memory for video and RAM. Is Ubuntu able to handle it ?
[10:31] <KaRupT> anyone?
[10:31] <QQ_ghost> DonVinzk: yes, it handles shaerd ram just fine
[10:32] <ian_> qq ghost i think i followed your intructions...butit says contents could not be displayed
[10:32] <intelikey> Mabus06 you asked about wget'ing a list   wget that url  and edit out the html crap    or just open it and copy / paste to a blank file  and save as sources.list
[10:32] <steven_> thoreauputic, failed again
[10:32] <DonVinzk> If I use my computer just for desktop apps, no games, is it fine to have shared memory ?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> steven_:  :((
[10:32] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, should be working fine
[10:32] <melodie> QQ_ghost, what is it useful for ? does it save money by using less RAM or sthg ?
[10:32] <steven_> thoreauputic, ill pastebin it.
[10:32] <Morrowyn> i have a couple of laptops running ubuntu with shared memory
[10:33] <Morrowyn> shared memory is fine for officedesktopping :)
[10:33] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs1
[10:33] <steven_> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6309
[10:33] <lampshade> ok how do I startx?
[10:33] <albacker> thoreauputic, how do i get kpkg ? kernel-package ?
[10:34] <QQ_ghost> melodie: yes, it saves the mobo maker money
[10:34] <melodie> DonVinzk, some games need lots, some no so much. We can have 3D accelaration anyhow, and desktop apps as well
[10:34] <Morrowyn> unless you need hardware accelaration for certain apps (3d apps, games)
[10:34] <intelikey> Mabus06 neither of the urls ubotu posted are howto's  and they contain a copy of a working  /etc/apt/sources.list   so i don't understand your question.
[10:34] <melodie> QQ_ghost, ok thks
[10:34] <ian_> changing ownership of media/ntfs1: read onyl file
[10:35] <thoreauputic> steven_: looks like we're getting somewhere at lewast
[10:35] <thoreauputic> *least
[10:35] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok. :-)
[10:35] <steven_> thoreauputic, yea it was going real fast then the "fifo" buffer died
[10:35] <thoreauputic> steven_:   sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:36] <Madpilot> later, everyone
[10:36] <thoreauputic> steven_: then tell me what the ls -l says again
[10:36] <rx2> are there any good blog entries/howtos about running gtk->cairo->glitz? cant find much info on the www :|
[10:36] <ian_> it says on the error that i do not have the permission to view the files...
[10:36] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type sudo umount /media/ntfs
[10:36] <thoreauputic> steven_: just to be sure
[10:36] <rage> Hey, I would like to map a key to a program, I've set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1 to "<Alt>F11" and ../keybinding_commands/command_1 to "echo test > ~rage/test.txt" however it doesnt seem to work, what have I done wrong?
[10:36] <rage> *run a program
[10:36] <intelikey> oh Mabus06 let me say i'm sorry for the growl,  i see that there is also a url to a howto posted.... i always skip that, and so didn't notice it.
[10:37] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:37] <Morrowyn> ian_  use this:  mount -o uid=<youruid> /dev/<ntfsdev> /media/<ntfsmountpoint>   since it auto mounts to root on default
[10:37] <ian_> ntfs alone is not found
[10:37] <ian_> butt ntfs1 is
[10:37] <thoreauputic> steven_: my ISP may cut me off in a few minutes BTW
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, :-((((
[10:37] <ian_> i named each partition with its own ntfs #
[10:37] <thoreauputic> steve__: did you run that command ?
[10:37] <QQ_ghost> ian_: good
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, yes
[10:37] <Morrowyn> ian, just add -o uid=1000 or something
[10:37] <intelikey> thoreauputic you too eh  ?
[10:37] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:37] <QQ_ghost> ian_: unmount it
[10:38] <Morrowyn> umount it first :)
[10:38] <Morrowyn> and remount
[10:38] <barosl> omg, ubuntu won't support updating firefox any more?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> steven_:  no,   sudo chmod u+s
[10:38] <steven_> thoreauputic, i did that :-)
[10:38] <thoreauputic> steven_: you must have mistyped
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ??
[10:38] <steven_> sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:38] <steven_> ?
[10:38] <Mabus06> can someone please pastebin for me either http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RepositoriesHowto or a sources.list that has universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:38] <ian_> no such file or directory....waity what do i put on the ntfsmountpoint and ntfsdev
[10:39] <thoreauputic> steven_: I just tried it here and it should say
[10:39] <thoreauputic> -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <Seveas> mabus powt 2325
[10:39] <Mabus06> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto that is
[10:39] <Seveas> post*
[10:39] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <steven_> -rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:39] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$
[10:39] <intelikey> Mabus06  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:39] <Mabus06> thanks, intelikey
[10:39] <ian_> man this is real hard... i eman for me since im new....all i want is to view files hehe
[10:40] <barosl> someone told me that because firefox 1.5 supports automatic update for itself, ubuntu won't support firefox version-up. right?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> steven_: hang on
[10:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: lol, no joke...
[10:40] <steven_> hi Seveas
[10:40] <intelikey> Mabus06 that's the same one i had ubotu post for you ^ up there.  i just copied it.......
[10:40] <QQ_ghost> ian_: ok, type mount
[10:40] <thoreauputic> steven_: that doesn't make sense...
[10:40] <ian_> and?
[10:40] <steven_> thoreauputic, i did what you asked :-(((
[10:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: are there any ntfs mounted?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> steven_: sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:41] <thoreauputic> steve__: oops as you were
[10:41] <quacorezx> hey, can anyone answer a quick question to me about OOo?
[10:41] <steven_> sudo chmod g-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:42] <steven_> i did that
[10:42] <thoreauputic> steven_: sorry    chmod o-x
[10:42] <steven_> k
[10:42] <ian_> i guess because when i click on my computer it shows all 4 of the partitions but when i open it it says i dont have permissionj to view the files in it
[10:42] <quacorezx> is there any way to install v2.0.1 for ubuntu, or will it crap out on me?
[10:42] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: what about OOo?
[10:42] <barosl> * You will no longer get automatic updates through the repositories (but firefox itself has a built into auto-updater).
[10:42] <barosl> what it means?
[10:42] <steven_> sudo chmod o-x /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:42] <steven_> ok
[10:42] <quacorezx> I mean, breezy's repository has the v2 beta right?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> steven_:  you'll have to do chmod g+x after that as well
[10:43] <steven_> thoreauputic, so chmod g+x again?
[10:43] <Morrowyn> ok, i just did the nvidia manually, works peachy now :D with the newest drivers
[10:43] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: don't know, 1.1 does just fine for me
[10:43] <olicat> hi all. does anyone have an idea what i've left out of my kernel config? i can boot it, but can't scan for anything with my wireless card.
[10:43] <thoreauputic> steven_: yes, then tell me what ls -l says
[10:43] <olicat> it's an ndiswrapper card
[10:43] <Morrowyn> food :D
[10:43] <quacorezx> QQ_ghost, well, it's not that it doesn't work fine as is, I'm just trying to teach myself some linux basics and such
[10:43] <steven_> -rwsr-sr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:44] <quacorezx> in this case, will alien's conversions move across distro's
[10:44] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type mount
[10:44] <intelikey> thoreauputic would "-rwsr-sr-x  1 root cdwriter 316K Mar 18  2004 /usr/bin/cdrecord"  that help by any chance ?
[10:44] <quacorezx> or will it bomb my entire system
[10:44] <Morrowyn> how do i remove the older kernels, 2.6.9 is still lingering about ...
[10:44] <thoreauputic> intelikey: wrong path and all
[10:44] <ian_> you want me to poaste whats in it?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> intelikey: wrong group as well
[10:44] <QQ_ghost> quacorezx: ah, do you know how to use synaptic?
[10:44] <Morrowyn> is it just the kernel-image thing ?
[10:45] <quacorezx> QQ_ghost, naturally, but synaptic's only got the v2 beta
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, is it right now?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: I don't know how you are getting these results...
[10:45] <QQ_ghost> ian_: nope.  are there any ntfs partitions mounted?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: no
[10:45] <polpak> Morrowyn: use synaptic and remove the linux and linux-image packages for kernels you don't want any more
[10:45] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6311
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, i have done what you said
[10:45] <thoreauputic> steven_: give me a minute
[10:45] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:46] <ian_> how come not everythiong was mounted
[10:46] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[10:46] <ian_> i eman i did the same thing basically
[10:46] <intelikey> thoreauputic is cdrecord not the same in /usr/bin  and /usr/X11/bin  ?      i was just pointing out a working permissions
[10:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: umount /media/ntfs2
[10:46] <thoreauputic> intelikey: yes maybe - but the group in ubuntu is cdrom
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> ian_: umount /media/ntfs3
[10:47] <ian_> ok
[10:47] <intelikey> hmmm cdrom only reads on this system...
[10:47] <QQ_ghost> done?
[10:47] <ian_> i tyoed moutn and now they are gone
[10:47] <ian_> the two of them
[10:47] <pl_ice> hey i got problem with avidemux , to edit movie files, no sound after edition, any ideas? ...
[10:48] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sorry ISP cut off
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sudo chown (yourusername):(yourusername) /media/ntfs2
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> steven_:  do this please
[10:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: without the parentheses
[10:49] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord
[10:49] <ian_> ok
[10:49] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:50] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod 4754 cdrecord
[10:50] <steven_> chmod: cannot access `cdrecord': No such file or directory
[10:50] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> steven_: sorry - give the full path as before
[10:50] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok
[10:50] <QQ_ghost> ian_: do that for all the ntfs directories you made
[10:50] <thoreauputic_> steven_: then tell me the ls -l please
[10:51] <cafuego> On a normal system, there's no need to run chmod on 'cdrecord'.
[10:51] <ian_> how come it only reacted with ntfs3 and ntfs 2
[10:51] <steven_> steven@Penguin:~$ sudo chmod /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: his was totally wrong
[10:51] <steven_> chmod: too few arguments
[10:51] <ian_> 1 and 4 didnt work?
[10:51] <intelikey> thoreauputic   why world read but not world exec ?   4 is read you know ?
[10:51] <thoreauputic_> chmod 4754
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: I know - tht's what mine is and it is working :)
[10:52] <yan> hello!
[10:52] <steven_> -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: so I'm copying mine :)
[10:52] <DonVinzk> I would have like to have feedback from people using ubuntu on a AMD 64 architecture
[10:52] <thoreauputic_> steven_: aha - that looks like mine now at least :)
[10:53] <QQ_ghost> ian_: type    cd /media
[10:53] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok, try to burn cd?
[10:53] <Seveas> intelikey, it should NOT be world executable
[10:53] <thoreauputic_> steven_: so see if it works
[10:53] <Seveas> instead the user should be added to the cdrom group
[10:53] <yan> I have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??
[10:53] <thoreauputic_> steven_: if not I'm out of ideas...
[10:53] <Ryan> im new w/ ubuntu. i need to install ubuntu in my laptop (compaq presario V2000) w/ mobile AMD Turion 64 Processor. Can I install the latest version of Ubuntu, the one in the download site "64-bit PC (AMD64) install CD"
[10:53] <intelikey> Seveas but 754 ?
[10:54] <Seveas> 754 is reasonable
[10:54] <intelikey> world readable binary ?
[10:54] <intelikey> 750 maybe
[10:54] <Seveas> Ryan, yes
[10:54] <yan> I have a Laptop without CDROM Can I install Ubuntu By booting it from the hard disk??
[10:54] <Seveas> intelikey, there's nothing wrong with people being able to read it :)
[10:54] <lampshade> what's the proper way to start up X and fluxbox once they are both installed but GDM, etc is not installed (I started with just a server installation of Ubuntu)
[10:54] <QQ_ghost> yan: do you have a network card?
[10:54] <thoreauputic_> intelikey: yeah I don't know why mine is 4 but hey, it works so...
[10:55] <ian_> ok
[10:55] <yan> QQ_ghost,mm, not:(
[10:55] <steven_> thoreauputic, nope
[10:55] <intelikey> nothing wrong with being able to exec it either though.
[10:55] <greg> am I allowed to be here?
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> yan: you might have to find a local LUG...
[10:55] <greg> I am looking for a place to talk about Apache webservers
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> ian: type ls -l
[10:55] <QQ_ghost> ian: paste the results
[10:56] <yan> what is a 'local LUG'?
[10:56] <Ryan> Seveas: thanks! Im running windows XP service pack 2 at the moment... what would i do so that i will have both ubuntu and windows xp in my laptop and my files wont be deleted?
[10:56] <Toma-> greg: as in, apache webserver help?
[10:56] <ian_> ok?
[10:56] <ian_> then
[10:56] <greg> yes
[10:56] <Seveas> greg, unless it's about running apache on Ubuntu you're in the wrong place
[10:56] <QQ_ghost> yan: LUG=linux user group
[10:56] <yan> mmm:)
[10:56] <greg> it is that
[10:56] <Toma-> greg: ask away.
[10:56] <greg> cool, I have apache 2 installed
[10:56] <thoreauputic> steven_: well, I don't know what the trouble is - maybe someone else can help you then
[10:56] <Toma-> on ubuntu?
[10:56] <greg> and it was working fine on 8080 port
[10:57] <steven_> Ok,
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: can you tell yan how to find a local LUG?
[10:57] <greg> and than I installed firestarter
[10:57] <steven_> can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?
[10:57] <linuxboy> how do I get ubuntu to connect to the internet via my phone and bluetooth?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> steven_: sorry - all I can say is at least your permissions look right now
[10:57] <greg> and the site was no longer accessible to the public
[10:57] <intelikey> QQ_ghost google maybe ?
[10:57] <steven_> thoreauputic, thanks for all the help
[10:57] <greg> so i  uninstalled it and it still is inaccessible
[10:57] <QQ_ghost> ian: paste the results
[10:57] <yan> QQ_ghost, intelikey: And by booting from the hard disk ? or from the USB.. Is that possible?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> steven_: no problem - pity it isn't fixed yet :|
[10:58] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6312
[10:58] <greg> that is what I think happened
[10:58] <Seveas> greg, iptables -F
[10:58] <Toma-> greg: is iptables in the command output of "lsmod"?
[10:58] <QQ_ghost> yan: you got a floppy on it?
[10:58] <yan> yes
[10:58] <steven_> thoreauputic, -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 133 2005-09-13 09:10 /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord
[10:58] <steven_>  is what we have right now
[10:58] <yan> only floopy6
[10:58] <greg> alright hold on
[10:59] <thoreauputic> steven_: yes that 's what mine is too
[10:59] <electrofish>
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> do you have a friend with a usb cdrom?
[10:59] <QQ_ghost> yan: do you have a friend with a usb cdrom?
[10:59] <greg> seveas I typed in iptables -F and didn't get back anything
[10:59] <yan> QQ_ghost, I have 20GB on usb hard drive...
[10:59] <steven_> can anyone help me with a cd-writing issue?
[10:59] <Seveas> greg, good :)
[10:59] <thoreauputic> steven_: I assume you are in the cdrom group?
[10:59] <Seveas> try again to connect
[10:59] <yan> QQ_ghost, not a usb CDROM
[11:00] <greg> okay
[11:00] <steven_> thoreauputic, no idea
[11:00] <intelikey> yan could you install it on the usb drive in another box and then move the usb drive to the lappy ?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> steven_: type  groups
[11:00] <steven_> steven adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:01] <greg> okay it seems to have started fine
[11:01] <thoreauputic> steven_: OK you are in the cdrom group
[11:01] <|Lestat|> is anyone here familiar with wireless usb devices?
[11:01] <QQ_ghost> ian: sorry i'm slow, but i'm on dialup
[11:02] <yan> QQ_ghost:  :| , mm It is not like A hard drive, Its the IRiver... Video Player with usb...
[11:02] <ian_> well....
[11:02] <ian_> i guess...i cant do this....
[11:02] <greg> seveas it seemed to have started fine
[11:02] <ian_> is there another way...
[11:02] <yan> QQ_ghost: Can I make Boot for USB?
[11:02] <sniper_bolero> hello guys
[11:02] <intelikey> yan to answer the question "can ubuntu be installed without a cd drive"  if you are an old hand at linux then yes.  if you are new to linux, then you probably can not.   it is a complicated task.
[11:02] <thoreauputic> steven_: does the nautilus burner work for you?
[11:03] <steven_> thoreauputic, i donot know what that is or how to test
[11:03] <greg> you can get floppy installations right?
[11:03] <ian_> qq ghost...
[11:03] <yan> intelikey, Mmm... OK 10x at all
[11:03] <ian_> how do i revert all the cchanges that i made?
[11:03] <greg> seveas?
[11:03] <ian_> i guess i really cant do it....
[11:03] <yan> QQ_ghost:; thnk u too
[11:03] <steven_> thoreauputic, WHOa it looked like it was gonna die, then it kept steady
[11:04] <|Lestat|> i installed ubuntu without a cd drive :)
[11:04] <Ryan> how do i intall ubuntu and still have my windows xp in my system... amd turion 64 laptop
[11:04] <thoreauputic> steven_: so something is happening?
[11:04] <Seveas> greg, there is no floppy install option for Ubuntu
[11:04] <|Lestat|> stuck an hd in my pc box, threw in the cd, installed, then when it rebooted i switched to my other pc
[11:04] <greg> ahhh...
[11:04] <steven_> thoreauputic, tried to simulate then it died
[11:04] <greg> but if we could get back to Apache2 business you would be my grace
[11:04] <Seveas> Ryan, just don't let the installer touch the windows partition :)
[11:05] <Toma-> Seveas: do you know much about routers?
[11:05] <Seveas> greg, you said 'it seems to have started ok', so what's the problem?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> steven_: try actually burning something - sometimes simulation doesn't work
[11:05] <Seveas> Toma-, a bit
[11:05] <greg> I can't see it when I type in the domain name
[11:05] <intelikey> greg ubuntu does not (afaik) make any floppy install disk/images  either for net or hd   but if i'm wrong then you should find it on  http://ubuntu.com
[11:05] <steven_> thoreauputic, Alright
[11:06] <Toma-> Say if i have an adsl modem/router, and then a WAP thats on the adsl lan, that i connect to, what machine would i need to configure to allow ports thru on? the adsl router or the WAP?
[11:06] <Seveas> greg, put the output if the following commands on the pastebin: sudo netstat -tlnp; iptables -L; iptables -t mangle -L
[11:06] <thoreauputic> steven_: if that doesn't work, try opening an ISO in nautilus, right click on it and burn from the context menu
[11:06] <Seveas> Toma-, probably both
[11:06] <Toma-> hmmm thought so.
[11:07] <ian_> anyway one more thing....i have windows on my system how do i configure the boot loader so that it will chooswe windows in default?
[11:07] <QQ_ghost> ian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6314
[11:07] <Toma-> adsl routes the ports to the WAP then the WAP routes them to me?
[11:07] <steven_> thoreauputic, ok burning.. hope it works
[11:07] <Seveas> ian_, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, make sure that the line that starts with Default: points to windows
[11:07] <thoreauputic> steven_: so do I ;-)
[11:07] <QQ_ghost> ian: hold on for the grub stuff, it's easier by far...
[11:07] <Seveas> Toma-, yeah
[11:07] <Toma-> ok thankx
[11:08] <steven_> thoreauputic, looks good so far :\
[11:09] <uday> hey guys, i'm looking for a doc to help me set up ltsp on breeezy
[11:09] <greg> where or how is the pastebin
[11:09] <ian_> thanks so much for the help qq ghost im real sorry i wasnt able to cope with your instructions
[11:09] <steven_> !pastebin
[11:09] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:10] <QQ_ghost> ian: there really should be a comprehensive how-to for beginners
[11:10] <steven_> thoreauputic, looks great so far!
[11:10] <ian_> Seveas: not write permission for file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <thoreauputic> steven_: aha :)
[11:10] <ian_> no*
[11:11] <|Lestat|> theres gotta be someone here who can help me with this damn wireless usb... it's drivin me nuts
[11:11] <Seveas> ian_, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:11] <QQ_ghost> ian: it's cool though, you'll get it soon enough...
[11:11] <steven_> thoreauputic, it did fail to burn  2 cd's normal mode, i think the problem was simulation never worked, and you fixed it but we didn't know
[11:11] <greg> okay its under Greg Ward
[11:11] <thoreauputic> steven_: well, lets see how this burn turns out....
[11:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, perfect at 90% so far
[11:12] <ian_> yeah i hope...ive tried so many distros already i really want to learn linux so hard but it seems every distro has a problem instored for me hehehe
[11:12] <ian_> now im in a word processing program
[11:12] <thoreauputic> steven_: I think probably simulation was the issue combined with the permissions then
[11:12] <Seveas> greg, it's on port 8081, which works: I see a directory listing there
[11:12] <steven_> thoreauputic, yes, 100% thanks so much
[11:12] <intelikey> to developers ?  mantainers ?  or any one that just knows for sure ?   is the breezy iso  the same one that was released in 10/5  or does it get updated ?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> steven_: hopefully now it's fixed!
[11:12] <QQ_ghost> ian: same here, this is my sixth distro...  i still use slackware though...
[11:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: you're welcome :)
[11:13] <steven_> thoreauputic, yay good to hear the kde success noise for once
[11:13] <steven_> k3b
[11:13] <steven_> *
[11:13] <thoreauputic> steven_: it's nice when things work out :)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> heh I hate that k3b noise - I turned it off :)
[11:14] <ian_> qq_ghost...im in the word proceesing prog to edit the menu.lst but i dont quite get what to do
[11:14] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: pretty sure that it doesn't get updated, but don't quote me on that one...
[11:14] <steven_> thoreauputic, hehe, cd's playing perfectly thanks a million
[11:14] <thoreauputic> steven_:  yay!
[11:15] <intelikey> k
[11:15] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:17] <QQ_ghost> ian: highlight the whole block of text where it says "title         Microsoft..."
[11:17] <ian_> and?
[11:17] <ian_> its at the bottom after a separator from the debian ones
[11:18] <QQ_ghost> ian: after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[11:18] <ian_> yep
[11:18] <idefix_> why is there a directory cdrom in the File System?
[11:18] <robzon> idefix_: to let you access the cdrom device ;)
[11:18] <QQ_ghost> ian: highlight all the surrounding text in that block
[11:19] <idefix_> there is no other way then?
[11:19] <ompaul> idefix_, so that you can pop in a CD and will always know which one it is if you had three you would have cdrom0 cdrom1 cdrom2 :-)
[11:19] <ian_> including the first line where it says Thius is a divder, added to separate,,,,,
[11:19] <intelikey> idefix_ man mount
[11:19] <ian_> ?
[11:19] <ian_> ok i go paste...
[11:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: thanks :)
[11:20] <QQ_ghost> ian: no, just the lines from "# This entry automa..."
[11:20] <idefix_> so if I manage to mount my floppy disk there'll be a A; directory too!
[11:20] <robzon> what bittorrent client would you guys recommend?
[11:20] <ompaul> QQ_ghost, paste it all in the pastebin you might see more that is useful :)
[11:20] <melodie> Ok, I've got the linux-headers in the box now :linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-k7 and what about the linux-sources that the KQemu acceleretor is supposed to need to function properly ? what should I dl and where to get it if so, please ?
[11:20] <intelikey> idefix_ also of note  /cdrom is only a symbolic link
[11:20] <ian_> qq ghost
[11:20] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6316
[11:20] <QQ_ghost> k
[11:21] <intelikey> idefix_ ls -l /cdrom
[11:21] <ompaul> robzon, the one that comes with ubuntu is fine - gnome-btdownload - named bittorent on the menu
[11:22] <QQ_ghost> ompaul: yeah, i showed him that
[11:22] <stefan_> idefix_ use the mtools to access your floppy
[11:23] <QQ_ghost> ian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6317
[11:23] <melodie> cause none : apt-cache search source 2.6.12-10-k7  :(
[11:24] <Papageno> I have a .doc file (MS Word) that has an embeded image. How can I extract the image to its own image file? I can open the .doc just fine in OpenOffice.org, but I don't know how to get the picture out.
[11:24] <ompaul> Papageno, if right clicking does nothing for you try saving as a html file it should seperate out text and image
[11:25] <robzon> ompaul: well, I use it now, but I'm looking for something with queueing... azureus sucks, it's slow and eats up to much memory, and I don't want anything that requires KDE :)
[11:25] <ian_> okt hen after that what do i do i have it cut now
[11:25] <QQ_ghost> ian: wait one...
[11:25] <ian_> sure take your time
[11:25] <DonVinzk> Has somebody unbuntu for amd64 ?
[11:26] <QQ_ghost> ian: cut it, then paste it right after "## ## End Default Options ##"
[11:26] <idefix_> pwd
[11:27] <ompaul> robzon, can't help you there all I do is pop ubuntu back into the ether so I have no special requirements - however as an aside if you want to control the max bandwidth that any app uses talking to the intereweb may I take this moment to introduce a command line tool called trickle :-) it works rather well
[11:27] <QQ_ghost> ian: then, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #
[11:27] <ompaul> DonVinzk, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:28] <Papageno> ompaul: Thanks. Saving as HTML worked well.
[11:28] <DonVinzk> ompaul: no, I mean, installed on the machine...I would like to know the issues ;-)
[11:28] <robzon> ompaul: sounds interesting :)
[11:29] <idefix_> No manual entry for mtools
[11:29] <idefix_>  :-(
[11:29] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk,  maya wont run on ubuntu amd64
[11:29] <ian_> ok so i pasted it right after what you said before the ubuntu kernel
[11:29] <ompaul> DonVinzk, issues hmm, that would be you would like to know about running 32bit apps on the box for media and stuff - I think that is on wiki.ubuntu.com in a lot of detail as I don't do 64bit myself I have had no reason to look at it
[11:29] <Morrowyn> well, it wont get installed due to arch 32/64 bit issues
[11:29] <ian_> so what do i do next?
[11:29] <QQ_ghost> ian: now, if you want color, find the line "#color cyan/blue white/blue" and delete the #
[11:29] <Morrowyn> apart from that, everything works nice and smoothly
[11:30] <ian_> yep did that too....
[11:30] <QQ_ghost> ian ;)
[11:30] <idefix_> there you go then!
[11:30] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: ok, I amnot interested in Maya yet...
[11:30] <ian_> do i save as or just plain save?
[11:30] <QQ_ghost> ian: now, just save
[11:30] <nish> hii
[11:30] <idefix_> plain..
[11:30] <Morrowyn> :) well if you are, shared memory wont do you no good anyways
[11:31] <pl_ice> hey, anyones totem-xine closes down ? my does that v. often on file opening ...
[11:31] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: I wondered about the flash issue.If I want to compile firefox in 32 bits in order to have flash work, what should I do ?
[11:31] <ian_> ok ill test it now...
[11:31] <gimmulf> Good software for creating flows?
[11:31] <gimmulf> flow schemes
[11:31] <ian_> ill do my reboot:)
[11:31] <gimmulf> or what it's called :)
[11:31] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: at least the basic scheme ;-)
[11:31] <Adross> how do i stop samba from sharing my home folder, as is the default option?
[11:31] <ian_> be back in a moment
[11:31] <QQ_ghost> ian: :)
[11:31] <ompaul> gimmulf, if I understand you >>dia<< is the program you want
[11:31] <Morrowyn> uhm, havent checked flash yet, doesnt macromedia has a 64bit flash plugin
[11:31] <nish> how should i install mplayer...
[11:31] <pl_ice> Adross look for file smb.conf
[11:32] <ompaul> !mplayer
[11:32] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:32] <nish> is it like windows?
[11:32] <QQ_ghost> gimmulf: you mean flow-charts?
[11:32] <Adross> pl_ice: i got that far, i just can't see where in the file the home folder is shared
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  yes
[11:32] <eclair> nish: the gui of mplayer isn't really like windows mediaplayer
[11:32] <Khisanth> mplayer is not wmp
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  not diagrams
[11:32] <gimmulf> QQ_ghost:  for making structures before developing a application
[11:33] <pl_ice> Adross net share -I localhost and see if it's shareing, if ti's not in that file, it's not sharing it ...
[11:33] <Morrowyn> try installing firefox32bit from the synaptic :)
[11:33] <QQ_ghost> gimmulf: i got a win 3.11 program for that ;)
[11:33] <gimmulf> hehe lol
[11:33] <Khisanth> gimmulf: tried dia?
[11:33] <gimmulf> Khisanth:  isnt that for diagrams?
[11:33] <nish> i downloaded the package from a link..threre is no "set up" like thing..only files n folders...
[11:33] <Adross> pl_ice: its there
[11:33] <Adross> pl_ice: its also there when i browse to it in nautilus
[11:33] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: no, and on the forums (or at least the thread were old,I did not checked ;-) ), they said there is a compatibility issue
[11:33] <pl_ice> Adross so it must be in the smb.conf ...
[11:34] <Morrowyn> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732
[11:34] <Adross> pl_ice: yes, any clues as to whereabouts it is?
[11:34] <Adross> pl_ice: as it is not located in the same place where the other shared folders are listed
[11:34] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: so I xould like to know how to compile a 32 bit software ? Are there some flags or something,I do not know...
[11:34] <Morrowyn> basically you need to setup a chroot env for the 32bit apps in ubuntu and in there, apt-get the 32bit ubuntu apps, that should works fine and smoothly
[11:34] <pl_ice> Adross ,sorry :) um u'll have to read it all then :) to find it ...
[11:35] <Adross> kk, cheerio then
[11:35] <pl_ice> or patebin, will have a look
[11:35] <Morrowyn> so if you need to compile , i think gcc has a setting wether to use 32bit or 64bit on x86, although im not sure
[11:35] <Morrowyn> but running the 32bit gcc in a chroot 32bit env should work fine i guess ..
[11:35] <_karl> hello?
[11:35] <nish> anyun not so bsy...
[11:36] <KaRupT> HOW can I open a full screen game in its OWN x session???
[11:36] <_karl> does anyone know how to get wireless network working ?
[11:36] <ian_> hi im back it worked good.
[11:36] <ian_> :)
[11:36] <KaRupT> ANYONE know, plz?
[11:36] <QQ_ghost> ian: kick a55
[11:36] <Khisanth> nish: "the package from a link" is pretty vague what kind of package did you download?
[11:37] <KaRupT> hello?
[11:37] <ian_> qq, well so its a fresh install of ubuntu right....my monitor has to be confugured every time i log in to change to 60hz...is there a way to save my settings? so i wont have to scroll at the top of the screen blindly when my resolution is set at 70hz...i need it to be on 60
[11:37] <_karl> does anyone know how to get wireless network working ?
[11:37] <tRSS> KaRupT: sorry man. I cant help you there
[11:37] <Morrowyn> KaRupT, the game should handle that
[11:37] <pl_ice> KaRupT , it's allways bit hard to do it ...
[11:37] <bekelar> hello
[11:38] <pl_ice> ops, KaRupT wrong person ...
[11:38] <bekelar> how do i make a shortcut in /usr/bin to an executable
[11:38] <nish> the name is Mplayer-1.opre7try2..and it has many folders n all..
[11:38] <pl_ice> _karl what card u have?
[11:38] <Morrowyn> bekelar, ln -s it , or make sure /usr/bin is in the $PATH
[11:38] <pl_ice> nish u installing mplayer? not by synaptic? ....
[11:38] <robzon> KaRupT: X :1 <command to run> I think
[11:39] <bekelar> where "it" is the file?
[11:39] <QQ_ghost> ian_: system -> preferences -> screen resolotion -> (checkbox) make default for this computer
[11:39] <nish> don't know searched google got a link clicked on it whats synaptic?
[11:39] <KillerBunny> what should i specify, so i can compile c/c++ programs ? the compiler gcc is complaing about missing stdlib.h
[11:40] <ian_> ok! thnx again i went to that option to change my resolution didnt notice the defualt hehehe
[11:40] <pl_ice> nish under console just type : sudo apt-get install mplayer and it's done ...
[11:40] <_karl> i have a dell trumobile 1400
[11:40] <Morrowyn> bekelar,   ln -s /usr/bin/<thefileordirectorythatsneedstobeshortcutted>  /<pathtowhereyouwannadumptheshortcut>
[11:40] <pl_ice> then have to set gui 'face' for it, don't bother compiling it ...
[11:40] <ian_> hmmm one last... in the grub loader how do i shorten the time to choose i want it to just be 3 seconds instead of ten
[11:40] <Khisanth> nish: a program used for installing precompiled packages
[11:40] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, make sure it can find the libraries/includes
[11:40] <robzon> KaRupT: basically, you need to run additional X server ( X :<diplay> ) and then run the game with DISPLAY envvar set to :<display>
[11:40] <bekelar> thanks a lot, Morrowyn
[11:40] <Khisanth> nish: you seem to have downloaded the tarball instead
[11:40] <KillerBunny> but where are they?
[11:40] <Morrowyn> np
[11:40] <pl_ice> _karl have u searched it on ubuntuforums.org for same card? what's the problem?
[11:41] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, check /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:41] <Morrowyn> dunno if ubuntu has it too
[11:41] <KillerBunny> okey will look.
[11:41] <QQ_ghost> ian_: open a terminal and type    sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <KillerBunny> nope, only a .cache.
[11:41] <pl_ice> i love ffmpeg :)
[11:41] <robzon> KaRupT: it's like: X :1 and then DISPLAY=":1" /path/to/the/game
[11:41] <ian_> ok...whgat do io do next
[11:42] <_karl> when i do iwlist scan i see a wireless network, then i do the iwconfig wlan0 "essid" stuff and it doesnt do anything
[11:42] <Wstylist> why do people use Gnome at all?
[11:42] <izza_> Hello, all.
[11:42] <Mabus06> because it's default installed on ubuntu
[11:42] <Morrowyn> Wstylist, why not?
[11:42] <Wstylist> it was slow
[11:42] <QQ_ghost> ian_: look for "timeout		10"
[11:43] <Wstylist> on my p133
[11:43] <KillerBunny> Morrowyn, any other suggestions ?
[11:43] <pl_ice> _karl u sure u set right channel etc? ...
[11:43] <Wstylist> real slow
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: line 17?
[11:43] <Mabus06> can anyone help me get x working? I recently installed a new motherboard and ati radeon x700 pro video card... and reinstalled ubuntu. Now x won't load
[11:43] <Morrowyn> Wstylist, run fluxbox, xcfe, blackbox on it, you want a liteweight window manager
[11:43] <ompaul> Wstylist, people like me have been using it for years, for you there is sudo >>apt-get install xubuntu-desktop<<
[11:43] <ian_> i see and make it 3?
[11:43] <KaRupT> robzon, envar set to ;<display>  how do I do that?
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: the time is in seconds
[11:43] <Wstylist> i need a distro with amiwm
[11:43] <QQ_ghost> ian_: sure
[11:44] <Wstylist> anyone knows one?
[11:44] <_karl> yup, channel 6
[11:44] <izza_> I'm a linux newbie, Ive tried KDE, and now Gnome, and Gnome doesn't seem near as intuitive... IMHO
[11:44] <ompaul> Mabus06, dkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help
[11:44] <nish> is there any link..which will just let me download mplayer for ubuntu..without much botherin my delicate brain...
[11:44] <pl_ice> izza_ it's good or bad, don't discuss it ....
[11:44] <Morrowyn> KillerBunny, do a find on stdlib.h and add that directory to your ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:44] <QQ_ghost> izza_: yeah, but i run old hardware, so gnome is just right ;)
[11:45] <Morrowyn> although i wonder why ubuntu hasnt set it up for you, since stdlib should come with gcc
[11:45] <Seveas> Morrowyn, wtf?
[11:45] <ltibor65> Hi everybody!
[11:45] <Wstylist> izza you might want to try EDE desktop
[11:45] <Seveas> .h files in ld.so.conf?!?
[11:45] <ian_> ok qq thanks a lot!
[11:45] <izza_> EDE? Never heard of it.
[11:45] <ompaul> Wstylist, check distrowatch.com :-)
[11:45] <ian_> didenough for today tomorrow i will be here again ehhehe taking your time!
[11:45] <Morrowyn> uhm, sorry my bad :)
[11:45] <Seveas> KillerBunny, apt-get install build-essential
[11:45] <ian_> thnx so much!
[11:45] <Wstylist> Ede has somehow better win32 behaviour
[11:46] <ian_> i think ill stick with ubuntu....primaily beacuse i can get help, fast.:) thnx
[11:46] <Morrowyn> the .lib should be there :)
[11:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: just be glad ubuntu doesn't use lilo...
[11:46] <Mabus06> how come my apt-get doesn't seem to be installing anything? My x is not working so I'm at the teletype
[11:46] <izza_> I might give it a shot.
[11:46] <pl_ice> anyone runs xmms with itouch plugin ? ...
[11:46] <idefix_> ltibor65!
[11:46] <Wstylist> http://ede.sourceforge.net/page/ Izza
[11:46] <izza_> Thanks, Wstylist
[11:46] <QQ_ghost> ian_: you're quite welcome
[11:46] <KillerBunny> Seveas, i will try to, thanks.
[11:46] <Wstylist> Np izza , u notice it to be quite fast
[11:46] <ian_> thanks really i appreciate it...ill be going now!
[11:46] <ltibor65> I have a problem, I cannot see the packages in the synaptic! I can update the packages, but not see in synaptic. Why???
[11:47] <ian_> thnks a lot!
[11:47] <robzon> KaRupT: export DISPLAY=":1"
[11:47] <ian_> oh btw
[11:47] <QQ_ghost> ?
[11:47] <ian_> is there a program here that has an online radio or something?
[11:47] <Seveas> ian_, beep-media-player can handle mp3 streams
[11:47] <ompaul> ltibor65, why not take a screen shot and paste it into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:47] <ian_> because since i casnt access my library for now in my windows partitions i would really want to here music eheh
[11:48] <izza_> Anyone have a script for install routines so I can right click and run without using the console?
[11:48] <QQ_ghost> ian_:i would be the wrong person to ask
[11:48] <ian_> ok thnks anyways
[11:48] <ian_> seveas....do i download that or is the package in my hd waiting to be isntalled?
[11:48] <ompaul> !tell ian_ about ntfs
[11:48] <ompaul> ian_, that should help you get to your library
[11:48] <Seveas> ian_, apt-get install beep-media-player
[11:48] <ompaul> ian_, read only
[11:49] <Wstylist> izza i think your linux is Puppy linux
[11:49] <QQ_ghost> ian_: on my system i have a fat32 partition to share data between lin & win
[11:49] <Seveas> ompaul, dapper has rw support for ntfs :)
[11:49] <Wstylist> its quite easy to use
[11:49] <Wstylist> has decent help
[11:49] <ltibor65> ompaul, I would it make, but the erros massages is hungarian, and nobody understand it.
[11:49] <ian_> ompaul the link is dead,,,, i mean the site where to get the script
[11:49] <ompaul> Seveas, don't say dapper until X3 :)
[11:49] <Wstylist> and its small so u spend time learning the core operating system instead of lots of modern junk
[11:49] <eclair> ! pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:49] <Seveas> !dapper
[11:49] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:49] <Seveas> !dapper drake
[11:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake is the fourth release for Ubuntu, which will be version 6.04
[11:50] <izza_> The help is lacking... I mean, it seems to have good help, but the guides rarely work.
[11:50] <Seveas> !drake
[11:50] <ubotu> [drake]  a dragon
[11:50] <robzon> Seveas: it does?? is it in the current snapshot already
[11:50] <robzon> ?
[11:50] <Wstylist> well Peanut has a built in help system
[11:50] <Wstylist> win32 behaviour
[11:50] <Seveas> robzon, yes
[11:50] <Wstylist> cant be that bad
[11:50] <ompaul> Wstylist, stop already your repeating yourself
[11:50] <Seveas> it's still experimental, but so far worked for me
[11:51] <izza_> I really would just rather use a script to manually install, rather than use package managers and whatnot
[11:51] <ompaul> ian_, that link works for me
[11:51] <Wstylist> it has some kind of installer service
[11:51] <robzon> Seveas: and it's more than overwriting existing files without changing their size? :)
[11:52] <ompaul> Wstylist, have a look at help.ubuntu.com and docs.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <Seveas> robzon, yes :)
[11:52] <idefix_> what is bot abuse?
[11:52] <Seveas> creating, overwriting with different size, removing
[11:52] <izza_> Right now I'm just trying to get Limewire working... I've installed Java, and Limewire... but Limewire doesn't run, and Java doesn't seem to work.
[11:52] <idefix_> if I type some words preceded with aclimation marks am I kicked too then?
[11:52] <ompaul> idefix_, something seveas kicks people for - abusing the channel bot
[11:52] <ompaul> !bot
[11:52] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:53] <Wstylist> Don't ask me izza im an NT guy :)
[11:53] <ompaul> idefix_, read the url
[11:53] <izza_> Me too. =/
[11:53] <robzon> Seveas: ahhh finally! now migrating desktops will be much easier
[11:53] <Wstylist> just testin Linux in Vmware i want to build my own distro
[11:53] <thoreauputic> idefix_: only if you misuse the bot - not if you use it for genuine help or info
[11:53] <Wstylist> i already hacked my NT to death
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wstylist: sounds like a good thing to do to NT ;-)
[11:54] <ompaul> Wstylist, conversations take place in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help channel
[11:54] <izza_> Honestly, I work as a tech, and I get more and more questions regarding Linux every day... just trying to get comfortable with it so I actually know what I'm talking about.
[11:54] <idefix_> !mount
[11:54] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:55] <idefix_> but you bother other people with it slightly
[11:55] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: how do you do that *|thoreauputic "does something" message?
[11:55] <idefix_> or is the output only in my chatwindow?
[11:55] <ompaul> idefix_, do this /msg ubotu mount << and you will not bother the,
[11:55] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost:   /me does something
[11:55] <Seveas> !irc
[11:55] <ubotu> well, irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[11:55] <ompaul> idefix_, this is IRC the granddaddy of all those little im things
[11:55] <Seveas> ^-- QQ_ghost
[11:56] <QQ_ghost> thanx
[11:56] <Wstylist> izza i on the other hand want to make a distro that's PNP and Installs packages by Next buttons :)
[11:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: we all see it
[11:56] <ltibor65> ompaul, synaptic write: "there are 7 broken packages on the system. The mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find archives for it. Inner error by opening cash." What to do?
[11:57] <robzon> Wstylist: you mean, you want to clone ubuntu? :)
[11:57] <ompaul> Wstylist, please converse in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:57] <Wstylist> Thats why i look at alot of distros to see what i can take from em and combine into one
[11:57] <Seveas> ltibor65, that sounds like serious trouble
[11:57] <Wstylist> sorry i will
[11:57] <Seveas> ltibor65, try: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:57] <thoreauputic>  Inner error by opening cash  <<-- that 's a new one on me
[11:57] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[11:57] <ompaul> thoreauputic, badly spelt cache
[11:57] <Seveas> thoreauputic, probably "Internal error while opening cache" :)
[11:58] <thoreauputic> ompaul: oh - I thought it was a comment on miserly behaviour
[11:58] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:58] <Seveas> aaaaaaaaaaah caffeine
[11:58] <ompaul> back to work
[11:58] <Seveas> I;m fighting ld.so here, that's hard work :)
[11:58] <ltibor65> Seveas, yes, I am not English.
[11:58] <idefix_> !tell idefix_ about mount
[11:59] <Seveas> ltibor65, that's not a problem, just execute the command I gave you and put the output on the pastebin
[11:59] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: are the versions identical for the 64 bits and 32 bits programms (I mean... are the 64 bits older or less updated ?)
[11:59] <kestas> anyone know of a way to specify in a regex a list of chars which shouldnt be in there? like say I have a string part1/part2/part3 and I only want part3?
[11:59] <QQ_ghost> cool
[11:59] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: and second: is it possibleto use MPlayer and the w32codecs ?
[11:59] <kestas> part3 could be anything but it won't have a '/' charecter in it
[11:59] <ltibor65> Seveas, thanks, I try it.
[11:59] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, 'morning glad to see you
[12:00] <Seveas> hi Sh4d0x
[12:00] <ompaul> kestas, your statement | grep -v part1 | grep -v part2  will leave you with only part 3 if I understand your question
[12:00] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, i finished your request
[12:00] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, rock!
[12:00] <visor> hi guys
[12:00] <ompaul> !tell DonVinzk about restricted
[12:01] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, could you e-mail it to me (dennis @ ubuntu.com)
[12:01] <kestas> ompaul, nope it's a whole string, like on one line you'd get asdf/sldkfs/alsdkfl, and you only want the third part
[12:01] <greg> alright I apologize, my daughter is sick and she needed me...
[12:01] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, k, you will receive it in a moment
[12:01] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, no idea, you need to check the ubuntu site on that. i reckon if you run mplayer in the chroot 32bit env, you are fine
[12:01] <ompaul> kestas, you need to play with something called >>cut<<
[12:01] <DonVinzk> ompaul... what ?
[12:01] <Seveas> greg, then why are you in here? ;)
[12:01] <thoreauputic> greg: no apologies required for that
[12:01] <QQ_ghost>  !tell QQ_ghost about restricted
[12:01] <kestas> ompaul, so I need a way to have a regex which says something like \(.*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\)
[12:02] <ompaul> DonVinzk, check for a message from the bot
[12:02] <visor> could somebody point me to a FAQ of mame so i can play these games... i havent found anything and the program complains about not finding files... (i know i know its a little bit off topic but we ubuntu guys know a lot dont we?)
[12:02] <greg> You are right, I should be with her right now, but I would love to know if you found anything?
[12:02] <kestas> ompaul, but instead of .* it should be [a-zA-Z0-9etcetcetc, ie everythingexcept '/'] *
[12:02] <greg> she is right here with me
[12:02] <Seveas> kestas, ([^/] )*$
[12:02] <Morrowyn> it would be nice if ubuntu has some sort of installer for that on the 64bit arch, would save lots of time and hassle :)
[12:02] <kestas> Seveas, thanks :)
[12:02] <ompaul> kestas, ahhhhh
[12:02] <ian_> will kde packages work on gnome?
[12:03] <Seveas> ian_, yes
[12:03] <thoreauputic> ian_: sure
[12:03] <ian_> ic thanks
[12:03] <ltibor65> Seveas, the message is: " The Mplayerplug-in must be reinstalled, but I cannot find package for it."
[12:03] <Seveas> greg, did you get my message about the fact that your server is actually working?
[12:03] <greg> no, it is?
[12:03] <Seveas> ltibor65, the *complete* output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[12:03] <Seveas> greg, yes, it's on port 8081
[12:04] <QQ_ghost> why do i get a "certificate error" on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:04] <greg> aha...
[12:04] <Seveas> QQ_ghost, because the certificates should be renewed
[12:04] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: i think it needs renewing
[12:04] <ompaul> QQ_ghost, cos someone had not renewed it
[12:04] <thoreauputic> heh great minds...
[12:04] <ompaul> s
[12:04] <Sh4d0x> Seveas, got it?
[12:04] <ltibor65> Seveas, that is all.
[12:05] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, yep, cool thanks :)
[12:05] <QQ_ghost> just making sure it wasn't my browser...
[12:05] <Sh4d0x> Seveas hope you like it :)
[12:05] <Seveas> ltibor65, then put your sources.list in the pastebin :)
[12:06] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, yeah, I'll go tweak it a bit more and use it as the official logo :)
[12:06] <ompaul> right I have to do some stuff l8r
[12:06] <nish> is there any links for cool wallpapers..or i will have to stick to my chocolaty wall.....
[12:06] <Seveas> !themes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> see you ompaul  :)
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell nish about themes
[12:06] <thoreauputic> nish: you can use any picture you like as a wallpaper
[12:07] <greg> what are you typing in as the url seveas?
[12:07] <Seveas> http://64-203-185-115.va.mvl.ntelos.net:8081/
[12:07] <nish> some website is saying i need IE for downloading wall papers..
[12:07] <thoreauputic> hahah
[12:07] <Seveas> nish, then don't use that one :)
[12:07] <nish> yeah
[12:07] <thoreauputic> nish: find some .png or .jpg pictures
[12:08] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: can I sopy/paste my ubuntu32 sources.list on my new machine,or willI have tomodify it ?
[12:09] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk,  check your pm
[12:10] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: yes,thks
[12:10] <Morrowyn> np
[12:11] <joshi_> Hello. Anyone willing to help me with setting up modem?
[12:11] <Mabus06> can somebody help me get my apt-get working?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> joshi_: what sort of modem?
[12:12] <Mabus06> I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors
[12:12] <mp3guy> hi, i'm thinking of investing in some kind of surround sound setup for my pc, just wondering what cards support surround sound in ubuntu properly?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> joshi_: is it a serial modem? Hardware external?
[12:12] <joshi_> uhm.. laptop
[12:12] <joshi_> made by ESS Technologies
[12:12] <win[X] amp> joshi_ : what modem
[12:12] <Sh4d0x> i'm off, playing advent rising :D cheers xxx   (Seveas, in case you need me, you know how to reach me)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> joshi_: ah - possibly a winmodem then :(
[12:13] <ltibor65> Seveas, I sent the sources list to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:13] <thoreauputic> joshi_: you might want to look at  http://linmodems.org
[12:13] <joshi_> i used ScanModem for detecting my modem.
[12:14] <QQ_ghost> what rpg/stratagy games do a clean install in ubuntu?
[12:14] <joshi_> it said that " There has been no formal support for Linux since kernels 2.2.2"
[12:14] <joshi_> =(
[12:14] <thoreauputic> joshi_: :(
[12:15] <QQ_ghost> i'm still looking for AMR modem support...
[12:15] <joshi_> ESS Technology ES2838/2839 SuperLink Modem <= thats the full name
[12:15] <Mabus06> Can somebody help me to get my apt-get working? I changed my sources.list now I get all sorts of errors. apt-get update gives me errors as well.
[12:15] <DonVinzk> I have: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required whenI try tocompile firefox...anybody with the sameproblem ?
[12:16] <greg> thanks Sevea I found it. -Greg
[12:16] <greg> You have been a great help.
[12:17] <thoreauputic> joshi_: just googled it - doesn't look very hopeful I fear
[12:17] <thoreauputic> joshi_: mostly seems to link to sites that say it doesn't work with linux :(
[12:18] <slarts> Hi y'all ... how do you view the list of packages already installed with apt-get ... and without using synaptic?
[12:18] <slarts> as in rpm -qa
[12:18] <Neo_> How is the name from the nero version for Linux ?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Mabus06: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list or check out the links ubotu is about to spit out
[12:19] <thoreauputic> !sources
[12:19] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:19] <thoreauputic> slarts: try dpkg -l | less
[12:19] <slarts> ta
[12:19] <slarts> ... or | grep, in my case :>
[12:19] <thoreauputic> slarts: ii means installed
[12:19] <ltibor65> Seveas, any idea to synaptic-problem?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> slarts: yes if you know what you are looking for, | grep foo
[12:20] <joshi_> thoreauputic :  The 2.4.18 driver was written for an HP XE3 notebook with an ESS modem in it, so it should work with those laptops. I don't know about other ESS modems.
[12:21] <slarts> nvidia :>
[12:21] <thoreauputic> joshi_: hmm - I don't know enough about winmodems to help you, sorry
[12:21] <slarts> rc means ... "removal candidate"?
[12:21] <joshi_> thoreauputic :  i have HP XE3 laptop... only diffrence is kernel version... is ther point to try that driver?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> slarts: residual configuration I think
[12:22] <slarts> as in its listed in the internal DB, but the package has actually been removed?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> joshi_: try *anything* you can is my advice :)
[12:22] <thoreauputic> joshi_: you might get lucky
[12:22] <joshi_> ok.. thnx ill go try
[12:23] <thoreauputic> joshi_: last time I had a winmodem it was a major pain
[12:23] <Neo_> where i can download the editor for html and what si his name ?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> slarts: I'm not sure, but I think it means it was removed but not "purged"
[12:24] <kestas> does anyone know what the difference between 'export variable=0' and 'variable=0' is?
[12:24] <Mabus06> can somebody please help me to get my ATI Radeon X700 Pro woring?
[12:24] <ltibor65> Guys, how to watch TV in Ubuntu? I have both analog (Leadtek Winfast 2000 Deluxe) and digital tunercard (Technisat Skystar2) on computer. Which program need I use for it?
[12:24] <kestas> what does 'export' do?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> Neo_: there are quite a few - did you want a wysiwyg editor?
[12:24] <idefix_> the private messages are blocked!
[12:24] <mojo> What do I do if apt chokes on a file, says error processing.  It halts both an upgrade and dist-upgrade
[12:25] <Seveas> kestas, export puts it in the envoronment
[12:25] <thoreauputic> Neo_: if so, sudo apt-get install nvu
[12:25] <Seveas> without it, only the shell knows the variable
[12:25] <kestas> Seveas, if I don't use export will child processes like functions and forks still inherit the variable?
[12:25] <mojo> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1)
[12:25] <Seveas> no
[12:25] <idefix_> because I'm not registered the private message are blocked.. the only way to get info from the bot is to ask it here
[12:26] <thoreauputic> idefix_: are you registered with nickserv ?
[12:26] <Seveas> functions aren't child processes...
[12:26] <thoreauputic> idefix_: so register...
[12:26] <mojo> Isn't there a back door to the bot via a web page?
[12:26] <EddieDaMan> hi seveas, where can in find and install the w32codecs?
[12:26] <kestas> Seveas, they become seperate child processes if you fork them
[12:26] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[12:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:27] <kestas> Seveas, looks like they are inheriting non exported variables though, so that's fine
[12:27] <ltibor65> How to watch TV on Ubuntu? Any idea?
[12:27] <EddieDaMan> !w32codec
[12:27] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:27] <Seveas> EddieDaMan, try cipherfunk (google is your friend)
[12:27] <mojo> ltibor65: mythtv, freevo, and others?
[12:27] <EddieDaMan> thank
[12:28] <QQ_ghost> i'm having trouble downloading w32codecs, is there a mirror somewhere...?
[12:28] <mojo> ltibor65: for PVR/Tivo like functions (and more), but will also simply tune the tv cards and let you watch
[12:28] <mojo> Is there a dapper-specific chat channel???  I have problems with apt errors on Dapper F2 AMD64
[12:29] <DonVinzk> If I install a ubuntu i386 distribution on an amd64, willit work ?
[12:29] <mojo> DonVinzk: YES YES YES :)
[12:29] <ltibor65> mojo, mythtv is a bit difficult, it uses mySQL database.
[12:30] <mojo> DonVinzk: I am running since 4.10 thru 5.04 and 5.10 Ubuntu i386 on AMD64 NVidia NForce3 Ultra mobo
[12:30] <idefix_> well.. there probably are some really quiet channels where you could use the bot without annoying too many people
[12:30] <mojo> DonVinzk: Have not tried Dapper i386, am trying out the 64-bit variant
[12:30] <DonVinzk> mojo: ok.Because I want toinstall it on my mother's computer, but I guess she will not be happy to use a chroot envirronment everytime...
[12:31] <mojo> There should be a web-page back-door to Ubotu so you can ask it questions w/o bothering folks in channels
[12:31] <DonVinzk> and until there is a good 64 support... Because she will buy it this afternoon...
[12:31] <thoreauputic> mojo: you already can if you register - just do /query ubotu
[12:31] <mojo> DonVinzk: She will be pleased, AMD64 runs i386 well for me
[12:32] <Morrowyn> DonVinzk, just run ubuntu 32bit
[12:32] <Morrowyn> it runs fine :)
[12:32] <DonVinzk> Morrowyn: yes, and I am becoming used to it...so...
[12:32] <QQ_ghost> mojo: try /msg ubotu
[12:32] <mojo> DonVinzk: Yes, I understand.  It is mainly Flash for me that gets under my skin regarding 64bit support.  ATI finally came out with video drivers last Jan.
[12:33] <DonVinzk> mojo: I thought building firefox from source, telling him to build it in 32bits would work
[12:33] <mojo> QQ_ghost: Yeah, but some dude with unregistered nick can't do that and was trying to here.  I can understand... some people are not fond of registering
[12:33] <Morrowyn> i ditched ubu64 for ubu32, but only coz im too lazy to figure out how to setup shop properly for maya 32bit ... i might check it in the near future
[12:34] <Morrowyn> apart from maya, everything ran peachy for me, apart from flash ... but you need to complain at macromedia about that
[12:34] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: nope, it only ever did at times of high bot-flow
[12:34] <mojo> QQ_ghost: plus, it would be handy sometimes as many ppl use ffox to resarch on the web, and only fire up irc after they get stuck and even then would hit ubotu first.  A web to ubotu's data would be useful and efficient for folks.
[12:34] <DonVinzk> mojo: and I had the w32codecs issue too which seemsannoying
[12:34] <Hobbsee> ah, wish it always did - it's far easier when people register
[12:35] <Hobbsee> mojo: there is one, but what's the address?
[12:35] <mojo> DonVinzk: Oh yeah, sometimes I forget that those are there.  I hate having to use them.  I try to stay with FOSS media formats as much as possible.
[12:35] <QQ_ghost> mojo: gotta argee with ya there...
[12:35] <Draken> guys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?
[12:35] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: easier to do what?
[12:35] <mojo> Hobbsee: I dunno!
[12:35] <Hobbsee> mojo: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:35] <DonVinzk> mojo: me too, but I do not always find what I need in FOSS formats
[12:35] <Hobbsee> found it, again, via a google search
[12:36] <DonVinzk> and I gues my mother... will not understand the issue ;-) mojo
[12:36] <Draken> guys, is it possable to bridge two network cards like in windows xp ?
[12:36] <yatesy> the internet wouldn't exist if it wasn't ;P
[12:36] <QQ_ghost> Draken: xp supports 2 nic's?
[12:37] <Draken> ya ?
[12:37] <mojo> Draken: Yes you can.  And you can bridge more than one without upgrading to the "server" product ;)
[12:37] <Draken> mojo
[12:37] <Draken> how ?
[12:37] <mojo> Draken: that is, you can bridge 5 or more if u got 'em
[12:37] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work.
[12:38] <mojo> Draken: The easiest way is to use Firestarter to set up the connection sharing.  But it (presently) only supports it for one additional port.
[12:38] <Draken> well
[12:38] <mojo> Draken: to do it for more than one you need to manually do it.  It is done through IPTABLES i believe.  It is called MASQUERADING if I am not mistaken.
[12:38] <Draken> i only got 2 network cards, well 3, but im only using two
[12:38] <yatesy> mojo: wrong
[12:38] <yatesy> mojo: that ISN'T bridging
[12:39] <mojo> Draken: righ on.  you should be able to do that.  Um, yatesy, feel free.  I am not an egg spurt
[12:39] <Draken> k ta mojo
[12:39] <yatesy> Draken: you want a true bridge and not NAT right?
[12:39] <yatesy> ie what comes in on one nic goes out the other untouched?
[12:39] <Draken> dont mind, as long as its like my current windows xp
[12:40] <mojo> yatesy: Draken: I think you meant the equivalent of Internet Connection Sharing????
[12:40] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.
[12:40] <Draken> well mojo
[12:40] <Draken> i got a 10mb network card, and 2 1gig network cards
[12:40] <Draken> in windows, they all bridge
[12:40] <Draken> so it acts as one big network card
[12:40] <QQ_ghost> Draken: i don't think xp does a straight-through
[12:40] <yatesy> thats a true bridge
[12:41] <Draken> so 3 ppl can connect to me like if i got a built in hub
[12:41] <yatesy> Draken: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[12:41] <Draken> k
[12:41] <QQ_ghost> Draken: i am almost certain xp can only do NAT
[12:41] <mojo> Draken:So you mean it, like, aggregates them ???  Okay my bad, I am not so familiar with that but have heard of it.
[12:41] <yatesy> QQ_ghost: well you're wrong :P
[12:42] <QQ_ghost> yatesy: not the first time
[12:42] <QQ_ghost> lol
[12:42] <yatesy> QQ_ghost: "A bridge is a way to connect two Ethernet segments together in a protocol independent way. Packets are forwarded based on Ethernet address, rather than IP address (like a router). Since forwarding is done at Layer 2, all protocols can go transparently through a bridge."
[12:42] <mojo> Draken: I have 2 gig on mobo and one 100mb, and use one to the cable modem and the other two each to a roommate.
[12:43] <yatesy> can't you guys be bothered to get a switch? ;)
[12:44] <yatesy> heh
[12:44] <Draken> yatesy
[12:44] <Draken> its my dad, to noob to upgrade his 10mb card
[12:44] <Draken> :p
[12:44] <yatesy> lol
[12:45] <mojo> Hey, is there a Dapper channel?  I have dapper problems
[12:45] <yatesy> tell him it'll be cheaper than the cost of leaving your pc on all the time to give him internet access :)
[12:45] <Mabus06> Can somebody please help me to get my ATI card to work with ubuntu? Tried the wiki article that ubotu said, but it doesn't work. I have no gui so it's hard to get help for myself on google etc.
[12:46] <mojo> Mabus06: how far u get?
[12:46] <Mabus06> Installed fglrx I think.
[12:46] <Mabus06> but it just isn't working
[12:46] <mojo> xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[12:46] <mojo> Mabus06: using apt-get?
[12:47] <mojo> Mabus06: a good place to start is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:47] <yatesy> did you even change over your Xorg config file?
[12:47] <mojo> !dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:47] <Mabus06> apt-get I got to work
[12:47] <Mabus06> mojo, should I pastebin xorg.0.log?
[12:47] <Mabus06> or is there an easier way to do that, considering I only have lynx for browsing?
[12:48] <mojo> Mabus06: well, I am in text-only too.  but yes, you should anyway, I can always start GDM back up
[12:48] <haakonn> dapper drake? i would have prefferred dapperiva
[12:48] <Seveas> shiver
[12:48] <Seveas> mandriva :|
[12:48] <Hobbsee> mojo: it's here, as well - no separate dapper channel
[12:48] <mojo> Mabus06: you can use grep to filter the output of the log file.  Try it with (EE) for error lines, or WW for warning.
[12:49] <mojo> Hobbsee: I am having horrible problems, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade both fail with dpkg errors processing a file.
[12:49] <Hobbsee> which errors?  pastebin them?
[12:49] <mojo> Hobbsee: Ug, okay.   But is it only for windows that I can use it?
[12:51] <mojo> Mabus06: scratch that, now i cant start GDM cuz of my broken upgrade. (sigh)
[12:51] <yuri_> How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <Mabus06> mojo, so will my drivers cd do any good?
[12:52] <erchache> i have a server on production mode with ubuntu amd64 over hoary....is secure to make a dist-upgrade to breezy....i did since months ago and need to reinstall all system
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: you should first be trying the ubuntu package for the ATI binary drivers.  It is called xorg-driver-fglrx and is avialable in apt or Synaptic program on administrative menu.
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: NOT sure if you need to activate the universe or multiverse repositories, though.
[12:52] <mojo> Mabus06: you might.
[12:53] <Seveas> mojo, no, only restricted :)
[12:53] <yuri_> How can I burn Files in Ubuntu?
[12:53] <Seveas> with a match
[12:53] <Mabus06> I already ahve it
[12:53] <mojo> mojo: if you mean the one that came with the gfx card?  No.  I doubt it.  Not for Linux.
[12:54] <brenner> yuri_: open up nautilus, then go > cd/dvd creator, then drag and drop
[12:54] <mojo> Mabus06: you already have xorg-driver-fglrx installed via Ubuntu package management system (apt/synaptic)
[12:54] <mojo> ??
[12:54] <Mabus06> apt yes
[12:54] <brenner> yuri_: or you can use a specialised app
[12:54] <mojo> Seveas: k
[12:54] <yuri_> nautilus?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> yuri_: the file manager
[12:54] <Mabus06> my x isn't working, that's the problem. So I can't use synaptic or anything.
[12:54] <yuri_> I ave Kde?
[12:54] <yuri_> Kubuntu*
[12:54] <hang> hello,anyone there?
[12:55] <yuri_> have*
[12:55] <brenner> yuri_: then why'd you say ubuntu?
[12:55] <mojo> Mabus06: Okay then.  Well, you may have used it to start the install
[12:55] <hang> there are something wrong with my cedega ,help me please
[12:55] <thoreauputic> yuri_: ah - well install k3b then - it's an excellent CD burner
[12:55] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: already installed on kubuntu
[12:55] <apokryphos> yuri_: just alt+f2 -> k3b
[12:55] <mojo> Mabus06: There is after all the foss 'ati' driver, xorg-driver-ati that does not have all the hardware acceleration but gives  u x
[12:55] <yuri_> thoreauputic: 10x, brenner : sorry:\
[12:56] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: ah right - I did the kubuntu-desktop thing :)
[12:56] <apokryphos> yup, that brings it in
[12:56] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I think I already had k3b
[12:56] <hang> there are something wrong with my cedega
[12:56] <thoreauputic> thus I didn't know it was default
[12:56] <apokryphos> 8)
[12:56] <mojo> Mabus06: but you can get the fglrx to work.  i have a radeon 9800 xt working fine on Breezy
[12:57] <brenner> yuri_: no worries
[12:58] <Mabus06> mojo, fglrxinfo yields an error
[12:58] <mojo> Mabus06: have you tried grepping the x log for errors yet?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> hang: we can't really help with cedega - I assume you paid for it and get support from them
[12:58] <hang> hmm..:(
[12:58] <Mabus06> Xlib connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:58] <thoreauputic> hang: cedega is not part of ubuntu
[12:59] <mojo> Mabus06: try something like "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE" or try with WW for warning lines.  If too much for a screen (doubtful), you can also pipe to more by adding "|more"
[12:59] <hang> o
[01:00] <ltibor65> mojo, I tried install Zapping for Tv, but it says:"checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:00] <ltibor65> " What to do?
[01:00] <quoth> I recompiled my own kernel and now I lost the graphical splashscreen/wrapper when booting, how do I get this back?
[01:01] <kino-tak> hey everyone
[01:01] <kino-tak> hi
[01:01] <brenner> ltibor65: why compile? it's in the universe repo
[01:01] <yuri_> in Kubuntu, How can I do to see eather my NTFS drives?
[01:02] <magoo> can someone help me compilee my kernel
[01:02] <mojo> ltibor65: find out what that XML parser library is and install it.  you are having a dependency problem no?  You need to find out what libraries and such this Zapping for TV program requires and install them.  Once you have the perl module for XML parsing it wants it will either complete or at least go on to the next dependency it is missing and fail there.
[01:02] <thoreauputic> yuri_: you know that there is a #kubuntu channel, right?
[01:02] <mojo> ltibor65: or so i believe ;)
[01:02] <kino-tak> does anyone use amule here
[01:03] <mojo> kino-tak: no, i prefer llamas
[01:03] <yuri_> thoreauputi, yes but it doest active
[01:03] <mojo> (joke)
[01:03] <ltibor65> thanks, mojo, I try it.
[01:03] <mojo> ltibor65: good luck!
[01:04] <thoreauputic> !tell yuri about windowsdrives
[01:04] <kino-tak> anyother p2p software would make it, I just need it for documentation
[01:04] <ltibor65> brenner, I would install with synaptic, bit momentan it don't works.
[01:04] <thoreauputic> yuri_: check your pm
[01:05] <aLeSD> hi all
[01:05] <mojo> now if someone could help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!
[01:05] <mojo> aLeSD: ale and lsd don't mix
[01:05] <kino-tak> so no amule....
[01:05] <mojo> aLeSD: i suggest sticking to the lsd ;)
[01:06] <aLeSD> I have a problem in ubuntu istallation : when Installing base package begins it gives me herror like I cannot find cp or rm command. Anyone could me help^
[01:06] <aLeSD> ?
[01:06] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i have been looking for a p2p program for linux for a while
[01:06] <brenner> ltibor65: bit momentan?
[01:06] <mojo> kino-tak: no amule.  i use something called mldonkey, but it is not that great like it could be
[01:06] <pilgrim> To enable DMA for my HD I would do this  (accoring to ubotu): sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda ...right?
[01:06] <mojo> kino-tak: i heard that you can get a limewire for linux.
[01:06] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i suppose you could run it in wine...
[01:06] <thoreauputic> !limewire
[01:06] <ubotu> somebody said limewire was first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:07] <mojo> kino-tak: I use bittorrent for most stuff.  There is a java client called Azureus with a nice interface, or the bittorent client that comes with Ubuntu Breezy
[01:07] <brenner> pilgrim: sounds right
[01:07] <pilgrim> brenner, thanks.
[01:08] <brenner> then you can check with hdparm -d
[01:08] <mojo> kino-tak: mldonkey is a multi-protocol p2p program that runs as a daemon in the background and you talk to it thru a klunky html interface on your local port (<IP_ADDRESS> aka localhost) or use some other front-end
[01:09] <mojo> kino-tak: I have heard that mldonkey is buggy on some of the networks.  I am mostly into freely tradeable music like dead and phish shows anyway
[01:09] <pilgrim> brenner, bad news. looks like it _was_ on before I turned it on. Bad news because speed is not there.
[01:10] <mojo> kino-tak: if you know what p2p NETWORK you want (like Gnutella or ed2k), you can search Synaptic for them by including the descriptions in your search thru the packages.
[01:10] <brenner> pilgrim: eek.  i wouldn't know about that one, sorry.
[01:10] <pilgrim> brenner, it's all good. thanks for your help.
[01:11] <KaRupT> Is there ANYWAY to resize an active partition??
[01:11] <mojo> KaRupT: only if you are really into your name
[01:11] <KaRupT> what does that mean?
[01:11] <pilgrim> mojo, LOL
[01:11] <mojo> you will risk KaRupT data ;)
[01:11] <KaRupT> Its a brand new part im not worried about data loss
[01:12] <mojo> KaRupT: LOL I mean mucking with an active filesystem like that.
[01:12] <KaRupT> I need like a 10Gb chunk thats all
[01:12] <mojo> KaRupT: you absolutely should unmount a filesystem before re-sizing the partition it lives on.
[01:12] <KaRupT> QTparted when I right click on it has resize greyed out
[01:13] <KaRupT> But how can i unmount it when it is the partition that my distro is on?
[01:13] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:13] <mojo> KaRupT: You need to boot to a live cd or something and do it when logged into another root filesystem
[01:13] <KaRupT> ok
[01:13] <mojo> KaRupT: Good luck
[01:13] <rapha> I just installed MySQL via Synaptic, but it doesn't start ... always says to check the system log but that doesn't say anything either :-(
[01:14] <olicat> any ideas why i can ping myself, but can't ping my router?
[01:14] <mojo> Please!  Help me fix dpkg error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb because it is killing my apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade.  My Dapper is broken!
[01:14] <erchache> olicat: check cable
[01:14] <mojo> olicat: DHCP or static ip?
[01:14] <iive> olicat, you can always ping yourself
[01:15] <olicat> mojo: static ip
[01:15] <olicat> it's wireless
[01:15] <mojo> olicat: check cable ;)
[01:15] <erchache> rapha: can you see mysqld on ps aux | grep mysql
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mojo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106978 help?  You might want to visit ubuntuforums.org, dapper section, a little more often :P
[01:15] <rapha> erchache: nope
[01:15] <mojo> olicat: you could have your stuff misconfigured for subnet
[01:15] <Hobbsee> mojo: use w3m as your web browser, which is CLI
[01:15] <mojo> Hobbsee: w3m?  cool.  better than lynx?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:16] <mojo> Hobbsee: okay lets see if apt will install that or not.
[01:16] <Hobbsee> it should already be on your system...
[01:17] <mojo> Hobbsee: no joy.  i'll have to write it down and reboot to breezy
[01:17] <aLeSD> Mi installation say dpkg(subprocess): failed to exec rm to cleanup.... on installation . ideas?
[01:17] <wizardjames> hello,   today i got a new hdd.  i wish to make my current install of my main hdd (mostly windows with a 15 gig partion for ubuntu)  i want to expan that space to my new hdd.  how would i go about that?..
[01:17] <mojo> Hobbsee: I only just loaded dapper on here 2 days ago and have not had time to play.  first update, upgrade, dist-upgrade since install. :(
[01:18] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:18] <kestas> how can I allow people to su to nobody?
[01:18] <Mabus06> how do I restart x?
[01:19] <robotgeek> Mabus06: ctrl + alt + del
[01:19] <QQ_ghost> Mabus06: ctl-alt-bkspc
[01:19] <thoreauputic> kestas: what on earth for?
[01:19] <aLeSD> kestas...  I think u cannot because nobody doesn't have a shell
[01:19] <robotgeek> QQ_ghost: :)
[01:19] <mojo> Mabus06: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:19] <QQ_ghost> robotgeek: lol
[01:20] <jazwec> hi..i want to start using ubuntu (i have kubuntu now) and i want some tips..like pluses and minuses and so..your experiences with ubuntu..
[01:20] <mojo> robotgeek: no, ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:20] <aLeSD> someone could help me?
[01:20] <kestas> thoreauputic, I run a script which I takes input and doesnt check it very well, basically I dont trust this script so I'd like to run it in an environment where it cant do any real damage
[01:20] <robotgeek> mojo: hmm, okay. one my kb it's del :)
[01:20] <mojo> robotgeek: np, all in fun
[01:20] <robotgeek> aLeSD: could you describe what do u need help with?
[01:20] <QQ_ghost> robotgeek: that restarts the pc...
[01:20] <brenner> jazwec: it's pretty much just gnome and synaptic vs kde and whatever they use :)
[01:20] <wizardjames> hey guys,   got a new hdd today,  how do i go about partiing it so i can store files on it
[01:21] <mojo> wizardjames: gparted or qparted
[01:21] <wizardjames> yeah, i got that far
[01:21] <thoreauputic> kestas: erm...
[01:21] <wizardjames> but then i get alittle lost
[01:21] <EddieDaMan> mojo, can you help me install ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0unofficialubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:21] <raptoid> wizardjames, What did you expect to read here?
[01:21] <mojo> wizardjames: g for gtk/gnome, q for qtlib/kde
[01:21] <kestas> thoreauputic, that's what nobody is for right? :|
[01:21] <thoreauputic> kestas: why would you run a scriptyou don't trust?
[01:21] <mojo> EddieDaMan: if i was at your house ;)
[01:21] <EddieDaMan> mojo, i'm having trouble install w32 on ubuntu 5.10
[01:21] <wizardjames> i know..    what type to i format the space into.
[01:22] <aLeSD> in the end I'm tring to install a ubuntu to a win user... and I'm cutting a bad figure
[01:22] <maskd> wizardjames: ext3 works best
[01:22] <kestas> thoreauputic, because it does something I want.. I wrote it myself I trust the script itself, it downloads and parses a website though and the script is open source, there are some holes in it which could allow you to inject an rm -rf ~ command
[01:22] <wizardjames> ok,  ..  um ..may i ask what ext 2 is?
[01:22] <mojo> EddieDaMan: i forget where win32codecs are and am not in a x environment to go search.  try google "win32codecs ubuntu package breezy" if you are on breezy and see what it gets you
[01:22] <mmans> Hi All! Is it possible to start the ubuntu (5.10) install CD and force the installer to first load the AHCI module, before the ATA_PIIX module?
[01:23] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[01:23] <mojo> EddieDaMan: or maybe w32codecs or may be singular not plural, i forget
[01:23] <mojo> Mabus06: any luck?
[01:23] <rapha> Can nobody help me get MySQL to start?
[01:23] <jazwec> brenner i have so much problems with kubuntu..for example my computer stays on when i want to shutdown..codecs wont install..burning is too slow..and many many more
[01:23] <kino-tak> I say, nobody is using and amule or p2p software here?!?
[01:24] <nick_> yes, I reconfiured x to use less resolution
[01:24] <KyKo> I just install ubuntu hoary and I want VLC... apt-cache search vlc yields no results... so I will download it from the site... can I get the one precompiled for Debian or do I need to get the source code?
[01:24] <jazwec> brenner and the biggest problem is that kubuntu has no support in my country..only ubuntu
[01:24] <mojo> kino-tak: i told ya i use mldonkey and azureus
[01:24] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: only on my win partition...
[01:24] <maskd> wizardjames: ext3 is the type of partition, linux equivilant to ntfs
[01:24] <kino-tak> sorry mojo, I didnt see that
[01:24] <wizardjames> i see, cool.. i havent had much time to read alot of stuff.
[01:24] <mojo> kino-tak: someone else said limewire is a java client so you can run it on java after installing java
[01:24] <aLeSD> how could I have a better log in installation time ?
[01:25] <wizardjames> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  <link to get the w32codics stuff
[01:25] <kino-tak> QQ-ghst, you think p2p under linux is not good?
[01:25] <brenner> ubotu: tell EddieDaMan about w32codecs
[01:25] <thedom_> Has anyone had much experience with LTSP and PXE booting?
[01:25] <Mabus06> How do I mount .iso files?
[01:25] <mojo> !p2p
[01:25] <ubotu> from memory, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[01:25] <brenner> jazwec: what do you mean kubuntu has no support?
[01:25] <mjr> Mabus06, sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt
[01:25] <mojo> !tell kino-tak about p2p
[01:25] <aLeSD> Mobus06 -o loop if I remember good
[01:26] <brenner> jazwec: and i doubt at least 2 of those probs are kubuntu's fault
[01:26] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: i love FOSS, and love a good gui, so i use shareaza in win (but only til i get wine going)
[01:26] <ROBOd> hey guys
[01:26] <ROBOd> i've installed XFCE 4
[01:26] <aLeSD> Mobus06: and u have to have the option in the kernel
[01:26] <thedom_> No? Ah well, not to worry.
[01:26] <robotgeek> thedom_: i have some idea abt PXE booting
[01:26] <aLeSD> help!
[01:26] <ROBOd> and the only thing I want from it ... is the Debian menu
[01:26] <ROBOd> how can I put it in Gnome?
[01:26] <kino-tak> I see QQ, i just need it for documentation (Cisco manuals and stuff), can you find it there?
[01:27] <mojo> aLeSD: loop mounts work on the ubuntu kernels
[01:27] <maskd> ROBOd, what things are in the debian menu?
[01:27] <kino-tak> FOSS=?
[01:27] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: install menu and menu-xdg ,  update-menus
[01:27] <thedom_> robotgeek: Ah, wonderful :) I was wondering if you could offer any tips: My thin clients just all say tftp: File not found, yet as far as I can see the files are placed correctly.
[01:27] <ROBOd> maskd: more than in my Gnome, some of them are menu items for packages I installed ... which i didn't see in Gnome Applications menu
[01:27] <jazwec> brenner i had other linux distros /mandrake, fedora/ and everything was allright..and then somebody told my that kubuntu is good and i installed it...and that support problem..im from czech and here are only sites about ubuntu...also forums and so..
[01:28] <EddieDaMan> thanks brenner
[01:28] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: Free-Open-Source-Software
[01:28] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to use that?
[01:28] <robotgeek> thedom_: specify the mac address in your dhcp server?
[01:28] <funkyHat> Seveas, I don't think the pastebin script is working...
[01:28] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: just install them and you will have debian menus
[01:28] <maskd> ROBOd: You could always manually add the items to the gnome menu by copying their commands
[01:28] <thedom_> No I didn't....should I? I've only put in the IPs.
[01:28] <kino-tak> Thanks QQ
[01:29] <brenner> jazwec: your english is pretty good.  i'm sure the people in #kubuntu could help you
[01:29] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: shareaza get's on gnutella 1 & 2, and e-donkey 2k
[01:29] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to install them? and which packages exactly? :)
[01:29] <maskd> reckon the VLC for dapper would work with breezy? it's much better
[01:29] <Mabus06> my synaptic or updates won't open
[01:29] <ROBOd> sorry i'm a semi-beginner :(
[01:29] <Mabus06> any ideas?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: I told you actually
[01:29] <thoreauputic> ROBOd:  sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg
[01:29] <maskd> Mabus06: does it say it's loading on the bottom panel and then nothing happens?
[01:30] <Mabus06> yeah
[01:30] <maskd> are = at
[01:30] <kino-tak> QQ, apt-get install shareaza?
[01:30] <maskd> Mabus06: if you sudo synaptic does it work?
[01:30] <maskd> in terminal
[01:30] <kino-tak> ROBOd, Me2
[01:30] <mmans> Or is it possible to start the ubuntu installer with ata_piix completly disabled?
[01:31] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: no, there is no port for shareaza that i could find...
[01:31] <kino-tak> I see
[01:31] <Mabus06> unable to get lock, maskd
[01:31] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: thanks dude, i got it now :P!
[01:31] <maskd> QQ_ghost: you could try limewire or some other p2p program, and if your using it for bittorrent there are way better programs out there
[01:31] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: OK :) You'll need the universe repository enabled
[01:31] <mojo> ttfn all, gotta boot out!  peace on men and goodwill toward earth!
[01:31] <jazwec> brenner thanks..i will try that first..
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: but "synaptic" for wine, then install shareaza in wine...
[01:32] <maskd> Mabus06: i have no idea, maybe try and restart gdm
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> !limewire
[01:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:32] <maskd> Mabus06: ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:32] <kino-tak> QQ synaptic is like Wine? I mean, you can run win apps under it?
[01:32] <QQ_ghost> l8er mojo
[01:33] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: already had it :)
[01:33] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: now ... how to easily add menu items? :)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: OK then :)
[01:33] <brenner> kino-tak: nope. it's a package mgr.  nothing to do with emulation
[01:33] <Liothen> if X crashes and doesn't come back or hangs do "ctrl+alt+f1" login to your account then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:33] <doojin> hi
[01:34] <QQ_ghost> kino-tak: no, "synaptic" is the gui for apt-get i guess, and wine is just a compatibility layer for running windows apps in linux
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: it should happen automatically - run update-menus (or update-menu I forget)
[01:34] <funkyHat> Liothen, ctrl+alt+backspace is just as good isn't it?
[01:34] <hoth> hello all. how do I add search paths for shared libs in ubuntu? I think I had something in /etc/ld.conf (or something like that) in my previous debian (followed by running 'ldconfig'), what's the equivalent in ubuntu?
[01:34] <Liothen> funkyHat. sometiems gdm hangs and doesnt restart
[01:34] <maskd> funkyHat: gdm restart is a more "elegant" way of doing it
[01:34] <doojin> maskd : hi
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: anything you install should get added to the debian menu
[01:34] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: that worked .. i got Debian menu now :)
[01:34] <maskd> hi doojin
[01:34] <doojin> maskd : do you use a messenger?
[01:34] <ShadowWRK> guys, i have a question about installing ubuntu
[01:34] <funkyHat> maskd, yes ;) but if gdm has already hung... ;)
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: :)
[01:34] <maskd> doojin: like msn messenger?
[01:35] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: but ... i still want to have my other stuff in it ...
[01:35] <doojin> maskd : yes
[01:35] <maskd> doojin: yeah i do
[01:35] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: no-one can answer it if you don't ask first =)
[01:35] <Liothen> funkyHat. my friends pc was haivng problems with this when he did the bksp command while in gnome... it works fine when in fluxbox for me
[01:35] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: how to add my own custom menu items? :)
[01:35] <[-SiO-] > does anyone think setting up ASUS AX700 PRO (grafix card using the ati radion x700 chipset) would be a pain?
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> ok.. thanks apokryphos
[01:35] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: well either use the gnome menu editor or install alacarte
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> here's the thing. i have windows xp and recently bought an external 400 gig drive
[01:35] <ShadowWRK> is there any way to install ubuntu to run off a partition on that drive?
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> i want to double boot
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: dual-boot, of course.
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> windows xp is already installed..
[01:36] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: gnome-menu-editor ..
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> ok, so whats my next step? just boot off the ubuntu dvd?
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: more than half the users in here dual-boot, I'd say.
[01:36] <ShadowWRK> cool
[01:36] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: best shot is to partition it, and install Windoze first, then Linux
[01:36] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: try typing "smeg"  no quotes :)
[01:37] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: because XP is evil and overwrites the MBR without listing Linux as a bootable option. There's way to fix it later, but it's more of a hassle.
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> ok.. think it'll be better if i repartition the SATA drive? right now it has a 10gig xp partition
[01:37] <funkyHat> apokryphos, he's already got XP installed
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> gotcha
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> xp is already installed
[01:37] <apokryphos> ah, ok
[01:37] <wizardjames> how do i um...mount a ext3 partion on a new hdd i just made?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: it's installed by default in breezy - Simple Menu Editor for Gnome
[01:37] <Draken> guys, is it possable to be in ubuntu, access my NTFS drive and PLAY a movie/mp3 off it ?
[01:37] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: sure, you can install it on a partition now. Ubuntu DVD/CD -- both good.
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> yes draken
[01:37] <wizardjames> Draken,  yes
[01:37] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Draken about ntfs
[01:37] <ShadowWRK> i have the dvd, i was playing around with it a few weeks ago
[01:37] <brenner> [-SiO-] : somewhat.  you'd probably have to use the official ati.com driver rather than the one in the repos to get dri working.  and that can be a bit fiddly
[01:37] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: yeah, but i can't copy menu items LOL
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> so i just boot off it... ill make a fat32 partition just in case on the primary sata drive
[01:38] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: apt-get install alacarte ?
[01:38] <Draken> thanks cool
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: I don't follow you
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> now another question
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> what's this nonsense about ubuntu not having any development tools (heard it from a friend who runs debian)
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> he says i wont be able to download/compile proggies, other than executables
[01:38] <funkyHat> well... nonsense
[01:38] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: i see the menu items ... i want to move some of them in other places ... or even copy ...
[01:38] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: you install one package that pulls in all the things you'd need to build most standard things
[01:38] <ShadowWRK> nonsense?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: it has them - you just install them just like debian - build-essential
[01:39] <raphink> ShadowWRK: totally nonsense
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> apt-get in other words
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> thought so..
[01:39] <ShadowWRK> thanks
[01:39] <apokryphos> ShadowWRK: the package is on the dvd/cd, too (just not installed by default).
[01:39] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: smeg only allows edit/delete/add (not copy/cut)
[01:39] <wizardjames> mounting a ext3 partion..    how do i go about this?
[01:39] <ROBOd> is alacarte better?
[01:39] <Liothen> ShadowWRK. you can sitll compile apps... its just easier using apt-get
[01:39] <apokryphos> wizardjames: permanently? Create an fstab entry
[01:40] <doojin> maskd ; you there?
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> yes  , of course.. compiling is only for the times i cant find a binary
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: it's just not installed by default, but of course it's avaialable
[01:40] <wizardjames> how about just temp,
[01:40] <maskd> doojin: yeah for some reason gaim 1.5 opened instead of 2.0...
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> raphink- how would i install it if i wanted
[01:40] <wizardjames> then i will do a fstab later
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: alacarte is better - but I never felt the need to copy/cut so I don't know if it does what you want
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> ahh.. ok i get it
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: that install the basic required packages for development
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> same as debian in other words
[01:40] <ShadowWRK> yep
[01:40] <raphink> ShadowWRK: exactly ;)
[01:41] <jazwec> brenner could you just help me with one thing? i want to resize my ext3 partition..without loosing data
[01:41] <apokryphos> wizardjames: sudo mount /dev/hdaX /media/somefolder -t ext3 -o umask=000
[01:41] <funkyHat> ShadowWRK, yeah, your friend is probably just jealous of ubuntu for some bizarre reason ;)
[01:41] <brenner> ShadowWRK: you can tell tell him/her off now
[01:41] <brenner> :)
[01:41] <QQ_ghost> wizardjames: mount -t auto /dev/(partition) /mnt/(mountpoint)
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> he mentioned fragmenting the community or some stuff
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> whatever that means.
[01:41] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: more nonsense
[01:41] <raphink> fragmenting the community?
[01:41] <ShadowWRK> hes a die-hard debian user, i guess
[01:42] <funkyHat> Sounds like it
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> he said ubuntu is causing fragmentation of the debian community :)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: the Ubuntu devs are often also debian devs
[01:42] <raphink> ShadowWRK: look at the devs's profiles around on ubuntu. most of them are die-hard debian devs.
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> lol
[01:42] <apokryphos> all of the core ubuntu devs are debian ones, yup.
[01:42] <ShadowWRK> k.. perfect, thanks for the answers folks
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: and stuff flows upstream to debian
[01:42] <raphink> ShadowWRK: so far, ubuntu is causing improvement of the Debian system
[01:42] <raphink> ;)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: also most sensible debian people welcome ubuntu and co-operate with it
[01:43] <Ticho> i hear DDs wear "I'm not an Ubuntu dev" t-shirts on DD gatherings, though :>
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> exactly
[01:43] <QQ_ghost> so is ubuntu a friendly fork of debian?
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> i loved ubuntu when playing with the live dvd
[01:43] <apokryphos> raphink: ian disagrees
[01:43] <brenner> jazwec: i couldn't walk you through it.  my guess is you should use gparted/qtparted.  apparently, you need to unmount the partition you wish to resize (i.e. it can't be active
[01:43] <johnnybezak> debian devs are bitter
[01:43] <ShadowWRK> cant wait to install it for dual booting..
[01:43] <apokryphos> we're friendly, and we mean wel, but not all debian users see it that way (and neither does the debian founder)
[01:43] <ROBOd> how to install TTF fonts?
[01:43] <johnnybezak> because shuttleworth is a pragmatist
[01:43] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: frindly yes - fork not really
[01:43] <johnnybezak> ROBOd: you mean the ms ones?
[01:44] <jazwec> brenner but how? im using it right now..maybe with kubuntu live cd? or i dont know...
[01:44] <ROBOd> johnnybezak: i already got those
[01:44] <thoreauputic> !info msttcorefonts
[01:44] <johnnybezak> ROBOd: k
[01:44] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:44] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: just a few script/eyecandy changes then?
[01:44] <maskd> Why dislike anything free?
[01:44] <ROBOd> johnnybezak: i mean ... TTF fonts of mine ;) ...
[01:44] <apokryphos> it is technically a clear fork
[01:44] <ROBOd> how to add mine?
[01:44] <johnnybezak> raphink: y not? were you a debian fan boi? :)
[01:44] <mwe> ROBOd: if you got the ttf file just put it in the ttf fonts dir
[01:44] <apokryphos> QQ_ghost: a lot more. The whole repositories are different.
[01:45] <thoreauputic> QQ_ghost: more than that - but ubuntu syncs with sid every 6 months
[01:45] <brenner> jazwec: yes.  with the live cd iirc.  but i've never done it so i couldn't walk you through as i said before
[01:45] <johnnybezak> anyone here use rat poison
[01:45] <ROBOd> mwe: where's the fonts dir?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: only on rats ;)
[01:45] <apokryphos> mepis, for example, has a far closer with debian
[01:45] <ShadowWRK> arsenic?
[01:45] <raphink> johnnybezak: yep, and I was afraid Ubuntu would act like Linspire and Xandros do when it was first released. Then I understood that Ubuntu is the only Debian-based project that respects the Debian way.
[01:45] <brenner> could someone pls help jazwec with resizing a partition?
[01:45] <ShadowWRK> ive used it to kill insects
[01:45] <apokryphos> which perhaps has caused its lack of success, really.
[01:45] <mwe> ROBOd: the trutype fonts dir is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[01:45] <QQ_ghost> thoreauputic: kewl, was just wonderin', thanx
[01:45] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: haha
[01:45] <maskd> Shudder; linspire
[01:45] <maskd> i actually used that for a day
[01:45] <johnnybezak> ShadowWRK: nope its a window manager like gnu screen
[01:45] <maskd> it was uninstalled straight away
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> hah