[06:44] <tjaalton> ok time to tackle xserver 1.10.4
[06:44] <tjaalton> totally forgot it yesterday
[06:45] <tjaalton> while testing kernel patches for my radeon..
[07:32] <tjaalton> bryceh: did you test the build after the xvfb-run test change? it doesn't seem to build here, trying to figure out why
[07:37] <tjaalton> doesn't work even when I run it locally
[07:43] <tjaalton> xvfb-run: error: Xvfb failed to start
[07:43] <tjaalton> but the build error was: /bin/sh: debian/tmp/main/usr/bin/xvfb-run: not found
[07:50] <tjaalton> well, of course it doesn't find Xvfb..
[07:59] <tjaalton> xvfb-run needs to be modified to add an option for an optional path to Xvfb
[07:59] <tjaalton> can't figure out another way to do it
[07:59] <jcristau> why do you run xvfb-run at build time?
[08:00] <tjaalton> to test that it works
[08:00] <tjaalton> there's been some package build failures that depend on xvfb
[08:00] <jcristau> ok...
[08:01] <tjaalton> though can't remember what the last one was that triggered adding the test
[08:02] <tjaalton> hmm just adding debian/tmp/main/usr/bin to PATH would suffice
[08:05] <tjaalton> seb128: do you remember which package depends on a working xvfb during build?
[08:06] <seb128> tjaalton, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.oneiric/rdepends/xorg-server/xvfb
[08:06] <seb128> ?
[08:06] <tjaalton> oh, it lists build-deps too.. thanks
[08:07] <jcristau> i use 'grep-dctrl -FBuild-Depends -sPackage xvfb < /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Sources'
[08:07] <tjaalton> hmm need to alias that :)
[08:08] <tjaalton> i guess it was pygtk last time
[08:09] <seb128> likely
[08:22] <tjaalton> it was bug 829470 in fakeroot
[08:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 829470 in fakeroot (Debian) (and 4 other projects) "Xvfb fails with empty /var/lib/xkb, causing build failures (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829470
[08:22] <tjaalton> which then made the pygtk build fail
[08:23] <tjaalton> the subject isn't accurate
[08:23] <tjaalton> or maybe it is, but caused due to the fakeroot bug
[08:29] <jcristau> yeah it's not so much empty /var/lib/xkb than "/var/lib/xkb where access() tells us we can write, but open(O_WRONLY) fails"
[08:41] <tjaalton> ngh, manually running debian/rules check works fine, but not in debuild
[09:12] <tjaalton> ahaha
[09:12] <tjaalton> binaries are not yet installed when check is run
[09:25] <tjaalton> yeah, works now
[09:32] <tjaalton> I'll reward myself with a steak :) ->
[16:01] <kklimonda> hey, I've got a weird problem when gnome-terminal doesn't refresh properly when I use nvidia blob on oneiric
[16:03] <kklimonda> it definitely happens under mutter, I also think I got the same problem running compiz - it doesn't happen with metacity though, so it's something shiney 3d related ;)
[19:40] <soreau> kklimonda: Possibly a bug in that version of the nvidia driver
[19:40] <soreau> and pretty likely since it wouldn't be the first time


[09:15] <r14> I created app in ubuntu 16.04 using qt shared library and when i run this on my virtual box using ubuntu it gives error  " no version information available "
[09:16] <r14> appdevs
[09:18] <r14>  I created app in ubuntu 16.04 using qt shared library and when i run this on my virtual box using ubuntu it gives error  " no version information available "
[09:19] <adroit_machine> Hi, I have juset finished a course in core and advance java(J2EE), I was wondering if I can contribute to the development of ubuntu in any way?
[09:25] <r14> adroit_machine: you can create application(system) or application for ubuntu store which si used by users.
[12:20] <adroit_machine> Hi everyone, I have just completed a course in advance and core java(J2EE), I was  wondering if I can contribute to the development of ubuntu?
[12:57] <maxed> adddevs, I'm still stuck with implementing payments in my game for Ubuntu Touch. In short, I need to show Qt-based pay ui from non-Qt-based OpenGL application. I filled a bug about lack of API for non-Qt apps, but for now, I'd be happy with any kind of a hack. I guess I need to start a Qt application FROM my app, communicate with using some form of IPC to get information about available...
[12:57] <maxed> ...puchases etc., then somehow show its window over MY app's windo for payment process, then come back. Any ideas how to do any of that? Or am I thinking in the wrong direction?
[13:40] <JanC> maxed: I think you meant "appdevs", not "adddevs"?  :)
[13:40] <maxed> JanC, oh, yeah :)
[16:23] <maxed> Another new interesting problem :) If I try to link my app with Qt, I get error saying  undefined reference to symbol '_ZNSaIcEC2Ev@@GLIBCXX_3.4' in one of my files (but if I don't link with Qt, everything compiles)
[16:24] <maxed> However, if I compile a separate Qt-using app, again, the error does not surface...
[16:28] <maxed> "The kit UbuntuSDK for device-armhf (GCC armhf-ubuntu-sdk-15.04) has configuration issues which might be the root cause for this problem."
[16:29] <maxed> Yes, IDE shows this kit with a warning sign, and warning include "Device type is not supported by Qt version".
[16:30] <maxed> Yet, I see that Qt version in kit is Qt 5.4.1 (device-armhf)
[16:30] <maxed> What is even broken here... Is it IDE (reporting problems with kit which actually aren't problems), or kit, or something else?
[16:33] <maxed> Maybe I should just re-install the whole development package...
[16:36] <maxed> But how to do that properly... Which packages to remove... Questions, questions, and no answers in sight :(
[16:36] <JanC> I think bzoltan is the person who might be able to help with the SDK/IDE
[16:37] <JanC> but not sure he's around right now (it's Saturday evening, after all)
[16:37] <maxed> What better time to mess around with your PC?! :)
[16:38] <maxed> OK, brb, rebooting...
[16:50] <maxed> Actually, the first problem I get (after updating to 4.1 version of SDK) is that sometimes after I change CMakeLists.txt, "Run CMake" breaks. It starts giving error message "Qt Creator needs a CMake Tool set up to build. Configure a CMake Tool in the kit options."
[16:50] <maxed> Even though CMake IS configured, and was working just a minute ago...
[16:59] <maxed> The more I dig, the more things seem completely broken.
[17:00] <maxed> It seems I lost the ability to specify CMake parameters. In theroy, SDK 4.1 provides a nice dialog to set them up instead of just command line specification that was used before.
[17:00] <maxed> In practice, it seems that whatever I set there is NOT passed to CMake.
[17:02] <maxed> Either the new SDK release is beyond broken, or my system is totally misconfigured (possibly after the update). I believe this channel isn't a proper place to discuss this in depth. But I don't want to file bugs, because I'm not sure it's not my fault...
[17:10] <DanChapman> maxed: hey! bzoltan or zbenjamin would be the guys to talk to about SDK issues. I know some others have had similar issues. They might not be around until monday though :-(
[17:11] <maxed> DanChapman, I'll try emailing bzlotan, I think. This might be a lenghty discussion which is better suited to e-mail than to IRC anyway.


[06:19] <ripps> I've found a weird packaging bug. I run a daily ppa for gmpc/libmpd, and recently libtool started naming the libmpd.so wrong.
[06:21] <ripps> In previous builds it has always named the file libmpd.so.1.2.0 -> libmpd.so.1 because LIBMPD_LIBTOOL_VERSION=3:0:2. Now, the last commit in git renamed it to LIBMPD_LIBTOOL_VERSION=3:0:3 and it's now naming the library libmpd.so.0.3.0 -> libmpd.so.0.
[06:23] <ripps> As you can guess this is screwing up gmpc and it's plugins. I've read over the libmpd git diffs and that is the only difference I see made to any of the autotools stuff (not much has changed in months)
[07:12] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <dholbach> tumbleweed, happy birthday! :)
[07:13] <tumbleweed> dholbach: thanks :)
[09:32] <iulian> dholbach: Morning. How did you know that it was tumbleweed's birthday?
[09:32] <iulian> Happy birthday tumbleweed.
[09:32] <geser> iulian: dholbach knows everything :)
[09:32] <iulian> It seems so...
[09:33] <iulian> No idea who he does it.
[09:33] <nigelb> iulian: facebook :P
[09:33] <nigelb> (probably)
[09:33] <nigelb> although I'll gladly believe that dholbach is all-knowing ;)
[09:33] <nigelb> tumbleweed: Happy Birthday!
[09:37] <dholbach> I'm not :)
[09:37] <dholbach> facebook indeed :)
[09:39] <DktrKranz> facebook is just a frontend, dholbach is the guy behind it
[09:39] <iulian> Do people still use that nowadays?
[09:39] <nigelb> haha, good one.
[09:39] <nigelb> I only use it to track birthdays :P
[09:40] <Rhonda> I use my own reminder file for that.
[09:40] <DktrKranz> RTM is quite good
[09:40] <Rhonda> But it's easy to remember, tumbleweed is a day late for Debian's birthday.
[10:07] <jtaylor> hm are the german mirrors broken? didn't get any upgrades for two days, now changed to us mirror and 175 upgrades available
[10:09] <Laney> lp/mirrors I believe
[10:10] <Laney> ubuntu/+archivemirrors even
[10:13] <jtaylor> indeed my mirror is 2 days behind, thx
[10:38] <tumbleweed> iulian, nigelb, Rhonda, everyone: thanks :)
[11:52] <hakermania> Hey, how do I upload files to launchpad? i mean i've created Wallch's page etc but shouldn't I include the DEB(s) and the souurce(s) as well?
[11:56] <nigelb> well, why don't you use a PPA?
[11:57] <nigelb> if your use-case is to provide debs that is.
[12:06] <hakermania> nigelb, I have never made a ppa, any how-to?
[12:07] <nigelb> I think this should be a good start https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[12:07] <Laney> do you mean a launchpad project?
[12:07] <Laney> I think you do (rather than a PPA), and questions for that are best asked in #launchpad
[12:32] <hakermania> Thanks all
[12:38] <hakermania> micahg, you're subscribed to wallch, so please get it reviewed asap :( We have only 8 days left and it's a pity, because featurefreeze exception was given...
[12:51] <hakermania> Hey guys, is there any problem the needs-packaging bug to be against the upstream projecT?
[13:17] <jtaylor> will bug 826856 actually be processed by sponsors as it is already confimed by -release?
[13:18] <jtaylor> or does triaged me sponsoring done?
[13:18] <Laney> now needs sponsoring
[13:26] <jtaylor> xes but will it be considered by sponsors?
[13:26] <jtaylor> in the past sponsored sync requests of mine where set to confirmed
[13:28] <tumbleweed> yes, that may confuse people
[13:30] <freeflying> hi all, whom shall I ask for the upload permission for specific package?
[13:31] <jtaylor> I'll set it back to new then?
[13:33] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: wouldn't hurt, also wouldn't be too worried
[13:41] <Laney> anyone got an i386 machine which is running an i386 kernel and oneiric?
[13:41] <Laney> if so, i'd appreciate a test rebuild of mono from oneiric
[13:50] <hakermania> Whola, wallch in omgubuntu :)
[14:11] <hakermania> Well guys, I never thought that Wallch could ever go into omgubuntu, I mean, common! But I am really excited :D And I want to share this excitement. Also, please please do something with wallch, or at least, let me know that sb's working on it :/
[15:13] <RoAkSoAx> zu/win 4
[15:17] <hakermania> RoAkSoAx, huh?
[15:20] <RoAkSoAx> hakermania: typo
[15:30] <hakermania> RoAkSoAx, hard to believe you :P
[15:56] <kklimonda> ma ktoś pomysł na krzesło do biurka za 700-900zł?
[15:57] <kklimonda> ups wrong channel.. heh
[15:57] <Quintasan> kklimonda: wrong channel :)
[15:57] <kklimonda> indeed
[15:57] <kklimonda> I've restarted weechat after few months, and it has reordered channels..
[17:44] <hakermania> What do REVUs do nowadays? Bug fixing? http://tiny.cc/ne0fi
[17:45] <hakermania> nowadays= these days
[17:49] <Laney> you've been advised a few times to get your package into Debian first, and that remains your best chance of getting into Ubuntu (it will involve making the Ubuntu specific features optional, which is no bad thing as it allows your software to be more widely used)
[18:04] <hakermania> Laney, no way. I know it seems like I impatient but I'm not! REVU is for uploading ubuntu specific packages and going through debian is not a solution, it will get me in worse trouble while i'm going for final exams!
[18:04] <hakermania> Laney, the thing is, can REVU do what it was designed for?
[18:04] <paultag> hakermania: policy is almost identical
[18:04] <paultag> REVU is for ubuntu changes, mostly
[18:04] <paultag> new packages should be in Debian
[18:05] <hakermania> paultag, *mostly*
[18:05] <paultag> hakermania: if your package is in good shape for Ubuntu, there's no reason you'd get kickback from Debian
[18:05] <micahg> paultag: no, REVU is for new packages, Ubuntu changes just go inthe sponsorship queue
[18:05] <paultag> hakermania: small things like shipping a changelog, but that's not your duty
[18:05] <paultag> micahg: wait, seriously?
[18:05] <paultag> micahg: why does REVU even exist anymore, then?
[18:05] <micahg> yeah, we just send most of them to Debian anyways when they are ready
[18:08] <Laney> REVU reviewer time is extremely limited
[18:41] <hakermania> micahg, so even if time expires and sb reviewes the package, will it be sent to debian?
[18:42] <micahg> hakermania: no, you would have to submit it to Debian (you're welcome to do that now if you like or after the review), is the needs-packaging bug in the sponsorship queue (ubuntu-sponsors subscribed)?
[18:49] <hakermania> micahg, I have a question about the needs-packaging bug. Does it have to be against the ubuntu distro?
[18:52] <hakermania> micahg, I just subscribed ubuntu-sponsors
[18:52] <hakermania> But why so?
[18:53] <hakermania> Also i'd like to send it to debian after the review, so as to ensure that everything package-related will be ok
[18:53] <micahg> hakermania: yes, as it needs packaging in ubuntu
[18:54] <micahg> hakermania: where's the bug?
[18:54] <hakermania> micahg, which bug?
[18:54] <micahg> hakermania: the needs-packaging one
[18:55] <Laney> if it's not against ubuntu then the upload cannot close it
[18:56] <hakermania> Laney, I have it against the project, is this a problem?
[18:57] <Laney> why not just open an additional task?
[18:59] <hakermania> Laney, do you mean I should make the bug against ubuntu?
[19:00] <hakermania> And where does it specifies that it should be this way?
[19:03] <micahg> hakermania: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[19:13] <hakermania> micahg, so, i make the bug against ubuntu and then I update it also to the deb package? (changelog)
[19:13] <hakermania> BTW 100 motus have seen the bug and nobody told me that it should be against ubuntu -_-
[19:16]  * micahg doesn't recall seeing the bug
[19:16] <hakermania> micahg, you were the 101th :P
[19:16]  * micahg still doesn't know where th ebug is, # please?
[19:18] <hakermania> wops, w8 a moment
[19:19] <hakermania> http://bit.ly/nibINh
[19:20] <hakermania> micahg, the above link shows the bug as to be an 'ubuntu' one (it says bugs in ubuntu), but the same bug is being seen in the project's bugs. What's going on?
[19:30] <micahg> hakermania: bugs can have multiple tasks
[19:42] <hakermania> micahg, can you please tell me what should I do?
[20:55] <tumbleweed> hakermania: getting it into Debian would have been way faster, you could have got in ages ago. But I did promise you a re-review, and I'll look at it right now
[20:59] <hakermania> tumbleweed, are you god?
[20:59] <tumbleweed> no, but I'll review it :)
[21:10] <jtaylor> we fixing flightgear is fun
[21:11] <jtaylor> depends on a library with a billion sshared libraries, no upstream build system for them and no debian patchsystem ._.
[21:19] <jtaylor> can one handle circular dependencies in shared libraries somehow?
[21:22] <tumbleweed> err you really sohuldn't have that
[21:22] <jtaylor> well I do
[21:22] <jtaylor> but don't blame me, blame flightgear developers ^^
[21:23] <jtaylor> or the debian maintainers even :O, upstream doesn't provide shared libraries at all it seems
[21:24] <tumbleweed> that's not that uncommon
[21:25] <tumbleweed> (upstream not providing shared libraries, but debian making them happen)
[21:25] <jtaylor> yes but it fails when the static libraries where not designed to be shared and have these ugly dependencies
[21:26] <jtaylor> hm seems easier to again just disable --as-needed
[21:26] <tumbleweed> try to avoid that, if possible
[21:27] <jtaylor> it can probably be done in a minimal way
[21:27] <jtaylor> can one use the positional property of as-needed with automake?
[21:27] <jtaylor> if you put it in LDADD it complains ...
[21:27] <tumbleweed> if you want some fun FTBFSs, you are welcome to complete the vtk transition. I ran out of steam :)
[21:28] <tumbleweed> it complains?
[21:28] <jtaylor> yes "linker flag belongs in ldflags"
[21:28] <tumbleweed> oh I see what you mean
[21:28] <tumbleweed> no idea
[21:33] <hakermania> Somebody was talking about bugs' tasks and that I should add one to mine so as to be a valid needs-packaging bug
[21:34] <jtaylor> what kind of ftbs are the vtk ones?
[21:34] <jtaylor> need adapting for new api?
[21:37] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: mostly nasty as-needed & no-add-needed
[21:37] <tumbleweed> and the all the reverse build deps fail to build on armel because of a missing dependency
[21:37] <jtaylor> hurry flightgear builds with only one change
[21:38] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/vtk.html
[21:38] <jtaylor> I'll have a look when I'm bored (which is often ;) )
[21:39] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: you sound like you need things to do. I wish I knew more people liek that :P
[21:45] <hakermania> How much time does lp to post a new ppa?
[21:47] <hakermania> false positive
[21:49] <sum1nil> Hi, I have a question - I am attempting to learn packaging and am following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[21:50] <sum1nil> but when i get to debuild -S -sa the end product fails
[21:50] <jtaylor> sum1nil: what is the error message?
[21:51] <sum1nil> it is on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/XPc71PB5 at the end of the output
[21:52] <ajmitch> looks like the changelog is still referring to 0.5.2, so it's trying to diff against the orig.tar.gz for that release
[21:53] <ajmitch> though you appear to be trying to update to 0.6.1
[21:53] <sum1nil> I believe the main hitch is dpkg-source: info: use the '3.0 (quilt)' format to have separate and documented changes to upstream files, see dpkg-source(1)
[21:53] <sum1nil> dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source
[21:53] <jtaylor> yes your working copy tree should be identical to the original tarball + the debian dir
[21:54] <jtaylor> you should also use 3.0 (quilt);  mkdir -p debian/source; echo "3.0 (quilt)" > debian/source/format
[21:54] <ajmitch> fix the version in debian/changelog, make sure you have a brasero_0.6.1.orig.tar.gz
[21:55] <jtaylor> its a package format where all patches against the upstream source are saved in debian/patches and applied with the program quilt
[21:55] <sum1nil> thanks let me follow these suggestions and get back to you. thanks
[22:13] <sum1nil> hi again, the suggestions worked great thanks
[22:14] <sum1nil> on to the next exercise, cya later
[22:15] <hakermania> tubmleweed, I'm going to bed LOL, anyway, thanks again...
[22:21]  * tumbleweed wasn't suprised by the quality of wallch :/


[07:21] <Spass> ok, today I have the issue with the NumLock enabled again, I ran "laptop-detect ;echo $?" and I've got "0" in response
[07:22] <Spass> and I think I know why, yesterday I was testing it on on the battery, and it was all fine
[07:22] <Spass> today my AC adapter is plugged in
[07:24] <Spass> maybe that is the issue here
[07:25] <Spass> and I have my mouse plugged in today, maybe that's important too
[07:25] <Unit193> A return code of 0 means it is a laptop/netbook/mobile.
[07:26] <Spass> hmm, in that case that numlockx behaviour is random
[07:27] <Spass> no idea why suddenly today it was enabled on my login screen, yesterday I was rebooting like 4 times and it was ok
[07:27] <Unit193> I presume you have modified nothing in /etc/default/numlockx?
[07:28] <Spass> nothing, I left it is it was, auto
[07:29] <Spass> brb, will reboot again
[07:41] <Spass> did some tests, many reboots, and - my mouse is the culprit
[07:42] <Unit193> ...Your mouse?
[07:42] <Spass> when it's plugged in on boot I have NumLock enabled
[07:42] <Spass> when I unplug it and reboot, it's all ok
[07:42] <Unit193> Ooooooh.
[07:43] <Unit193> I thought I saw some sort of mouse code in there somewhere.
[07:43] <Spass> it's a mouse from my desktop, maybe my Dell knows... ;)
[07:43] <Spass> smart machine
[07:43] <Spass> anyway, yeah, that's why it was working yesterday and before
[07:45] <Spass> still, if it detects that I'm on a laptop correctly, why NL is on? my mouse shouldn't be a factor here
[07:45] <Spass> a bug maybe?
[07:48] <Spass> should I test with other mouse?
[19:56] <flocculant> iirc - if AC it numlock's on
[20:01] <flocculant> ochosi: default panel when you first start up - and have no windows or anything open looks rather bizarre - we have a visible seperator right next to whiskermenu
[20:01] <flocculant> https://i.imgur.com/QdFcEOT.png
[20:10] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: Remove ureadahead from standard seed @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=f4daec09614e6c622dbd80da6358b49cd1d232ee (by Julian Andres Klode)
[20:12] <ochosi> flocculant: yeah, the separator is a matter of configuration though
[20:12] <ochosi> it used to be practically invisible in gtk2, which was not really a good thing tbh
[20:12] <ochosi> so i fixed it in the code
[20:13] <ochosi> but you can make the separator go away by deactivating the "show handle" setting in the window list
[20:13] <ochosi> if you still want some invisible space in between, you can add an invisible separator
[20:13] <ochosi> maybe something to discuss with bluesabre for the default panel layout
[20:23] <flocculant> ochosi: ack - I'm just talking about our default here - any seperators I've got only exist in my head :)
[20:24] <flocculant> just think it looks a tad bizarre when empty :)
[20:24] <ochosi> ppl will get used to it ;)
[20:24] <flocculant> heh
[20:24] <ochosi> also, i could tone it down more in greybird
[20:24] <ochosi> but imo it's supposed to be visible
[20:25] <ochosi> at least if enabled
[20:25] <ochosi> otherwise what's the point
[20:25] <flocculant> ftr - I'm totally for us making them more visible than the old gtk2 style
[20:25] <flocculant> and yea would agree your last point too
[20:25] <ochosi> kk good
[20:26]  * flocculant wanders off again
[20:27] <flocculant> back a bit more over the next few days - then invisible for a week
[20:28] <flocculant> week after I'm back we have 18.04.1 and then 16.04.5 in concurrent weeks
[20:47] <Spass> flocculant, in my case AC didn't matter, just the mouse plugged in or not
[21:45] <krytarik> Spass: https://sources.debian.org/src/numlockx/1.2-7.1/debian/55numlockx/#L30 - run the command in backticks there to see if your mouse identifies itself as a keyboard instead.  Also, what is it exactly?
[21:49] <Spass> krytarik, ok 1 sec, need to boot my laptop, my mouse is Logitech G700, right now I run it wired with no batteries
[21:53] <bluesabre> ochosi, flocculant, cool with dropping the handle and adding an invisible separator
[22:04] <Spass_> krytarik, is that enough to tell something? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xtbN9yWV6q/
[22:08] <krytarik> Spass_: And what is the output of "evtest"?
[22:12] <Spass_> krytarik, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WMCfpn4jyp/
[22:13] <Spass_> you know what? I think I know what can cause that... that mouse has built in button profiles and my current profile has some of the buttons assigned to some media keys
[22:14] <Spass_> like XF86AudioLowerVolume and XF86AudioMute
[22:15] <Spass_> so maybe my system thinks it's some kind of mouse / keyboard hybrid
[22:17] <Spass_> yeah... that could be it, I need to test it more tomorrow, in that case I'd probably need to live with it forever, no way any dev will try to fix that corner case issue
[22:21] <Spass_> or my profile doesn't even matter here, just look at those "supported events" :) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5ySCPGcnQR/
[22:22] <krytarik> "udevadm info --query=all --name=input/event7" - for completeness.  And I would think 'ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD' is independent from whether or not any of those extra buttons are actually assigned to any keys.
[22:25] <Spass_> yup, =1 :/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SJf3YFsF3Q/
[22:26] <krytarik> And of course, you can always set it manually in '/etc/default/numlockx' then.
[22:27] <Spass_> yeah, no other way around it, numlockx dev "probably" isn't interested in excluding every weird mouse model in the code
[22:28] <Spass_> thank you very much krytarik for helping me investigate that issue
[22:29] <krytarik> Sure. :)
[22:30] <Spass_> NUMLOCK=off, will reboot and see
[22:34] <Spass> yup, works as intended, no more issue and I've learned new things \o
[22:34] <Spass> \o/ (that's what I wanted)
[22:34] <krytarik> :D