[04:25] <eradicus> anyone here who tried booting 48 bit LBA disks with Linux even if the BIOS doesn't support it?
[04:25] <Scutum> I really like this chat btw
[04:25] <skyl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/git-core broken link
[04:25] <Madcamper> if someone is familiar with http://wubi-installer.org please explain exactly what it is.
[04:25] <Satzo> eradicus, you might need an overlay?
[04:25] <Scutum> I loved mu Xubuntu on my eeepc until it got stolen..
[04:26] <leaf-sheep> !wubi | Madcamper
[04:26] <Scutum> ~MY
[04:26] <Flannel> Madcamper: It allows you to install Ubuntu inside of Windows, and dual boot without partitioning
[04:26] <eradicus> Satzo, thanks can you point me to the right direction?
[04:26] <torrancew> does anybody know about keyboard/mouse logging? i suspect kernel modules
[04:26] <andre> the only problem with old laptop may be the batteries, hardwares are ususally well supported
[04:26] <AsSlowAsHell> can ubuntu mount windows software raid volumes?
[04:26] <Madcamper> ok, but since i installed Ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive, and xp is on my first, would it be any different?
[04:26] <Satzo> eradicus i havent used overlays in over 10 years sorry
[04:26] <Madcamper> for booting up wise
[04:26] <Satzo> google for dynamic drive overlays and cross fingers
[04:27] <Satzo> Madcamper i dont think it would matter
[04:27] <Satzo> wubi uses grub doesnt it?
[04:27] <panfist> what's the name of the program that's a gui to edit tons of little gnome options?
[04:27] <Scutum> so my answer is Unetbootin with xubuntu right?
[04:27] <eradicus> Satzo, grub2 doesn't handle it?
[04:27] <torrancew> panfist: gconf-editor?
[04:27] <Flannel> Madcamper: different in what way?
[04:27] <scunizi> panfist: ubuntu tweek
[04:27] <cody_> You gotta be kidding me. The emachines support (Who MADE my computer) couls not help me
[04:27] <Madcamper> ok, thats what i was looking for. Thought it ran like, i could logout of windows xp, then login to ubuntu without restarting
[04:27] <Satzo> eradicus not certain.. not much experience with wubi
[04:28] <Flannel> Madcamper: Booting, it's slightly different.  You boot to GRUB, and then can choose windows or Ubuntu.  With wubi, you use the windows bootloader, and then can choose to boot to windows or Ubuntu
[04:28] <IdleOne> cody_: help with?
[04:28] <cody_> IdleOne: Upgrading my BIOS.
[04:28] <Bof> Can I update the bios using wine?
[04:28] <Madcamper> ok so essentially same concept
[04:28] <torrancew> Bof: not saying you _can't_ but it seems like a potentially horrible idea
[04:28] <eradicus> Satzo, alright thanks though
[04:29] <Flannel> Madcamper: Right, except you actually have a dedicated partition for Ubuntu (and for Windows) that are independant of each other.  With Wubi, Ubuntu sits inside the Windows partition (as a few files)
[04:29] <Satzo> cody_, do you need to do that?
[04:29] <Madcamper> is there any possible way to arrange it the way i suggested? going start > logout > choose ubuntu OS, or vice versa back to XP?
[04:29] <vox> Bof: i would REALLY advise against it
[04:29] <IdleOne> cody_: ahhh well, sorry can't help you either
[04:29] <Madcamper> without restarting?
[04:29] <vox> Madcamper: no
[04:29] <Satzo> ive never had to upgrade bios on emachines
[04:29] <Madcamper> ok didnt think so
[04:29] <Bof> thx.. so I have to boot on a cd ??
[04:29] <scunizi> Madcamper: maybe you're really looking at running the os in a virtual machine.. check out virtualbox for windows or linux
[04:29] <Satzo> or usb Bof
[04:30] <Madcamper> nah was trying to get aroudn vboxing it
[04:30] <vigo> Madcamper: WUBI is an .exe or like an .exe inside the Windows system, it is placed in the Add/Remove stuff just like any Windows Program, but it is Ubuntu once it is started.
[04:30]  * Satzo loves virtualbox.
[04:30] <Flannel> Madcamper: That will be possible soon, with the new GRUB coming out.
[04:30] <Bof> ok..  And IdleOne It's okay haha
[04:30] <Satzo> Bof, is your bios update app a dos app?
[04:30] <Madcamper> have a website i could look at for it?
[04:30] <Flannel> Madcamper: Yeah.  Well, at least, on the Ubuntu side.  I imagine someone will hack something to do it on the windows side too.
[04:30] <Madcamper> like info
[04:30] <Satzo> some motherboards can update within bios itself
[04:31] <Flannel> Madcamper: It'll be possible with GRUB2
[04:31] <Madcamper> ok
[04:31] <Bof> Satzo:  I don't know
[04:31] <Madcamper> thx
[04:31] <Satzo> cody_, : unless your bios changelog says so i wouldnt bother
[04:31] <Satzo> Bof,  what make/model of mobo you have?
[04:31] <arrrghhh> i'm having some issues with my wireless card... the driver is ralink, and they provide linux drivers.  but the ones that come with ubuntu don't seem to work properly, and i can't seem to build the ones they provide online...
[04:31] <Bof> Satzo: Toshiba Satellite pro U300
[04:32] <cody_> Satzo: I cant even FIND my BIOS changelog since all i know is the Manufacturer, not model.
[04:32] <Balsaq> can i put ubuntu in an 2002 dell and also install winxpsp3 and have it turn on to a screen that gives me the option of either one?
[04:32] <Synaps> sum times you can do it from a floppy boot.
[04:32] <Satzo> cody_, i recall eMachine used mobos from other makers.
[04:33] <Flannel> Balsaq: Yes
[04:33] <Satzo> Bof, can u source the bios info on toshiba website
[04:33] <Satzo> it should have detailed info re: bios
[04:33] <Flannel> Balsaq: dual booting does that by default (the screen just is hidden by default, and if you don't touch anything, it boots after a few seconds)
[04:33] <cody_> Satzo: Well, lshw reports Dublin. haha
[04:33] <Satzo> dublin.... no idea.
[04:33] <Satzo> except a nice place to drink guinness...
[04:33] <cody_> Satzo: Note: This is a Emachines T4200 Desktop
[04:34] <Bof> Satzo: I'm not sure of what you mean but I downloaded an update on toshiba's web site?
[04:34] <Balsaq> what if the computer is blank with no OS on it when istart to attempt to put 2 of them in?
[04:34] <LinuX2half> is there a way to run window setup without booting?
[04:34] <Satzo> cody_, http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/
[04:35] <cody_> *tear**tear* For $200 i could get a replacement case, Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core CPU w/ Fan. and 2GB Ram hehe
[04:35] <Satzo> that should tell you what mobo you have
[04:35] <cody_> Satzo: Ill look at it
[04:35] <Satzo> Bof,  ok so the website had directions on how to update?
[04:35] <LinuX2half> !qemu
[04:35] <Bof> Satzo: It said nothing...!!
[04:35] <cody_> Satzo: It Ubuntu 9.04 based off Lenny, or squeeze Debina?
[04:36] <assoguerozen_sx> somebody here have qjoypad working?
[04:36] <Satzo> cody_, hell if i know :P
[04:36] <Satzo> Bof, in my experience you need to boot in dos, windows or the bios itself will have an update function
[04:36] <LinuX2half> is there a way to run window setup without booting?
[04:36] <cody_> Satzo: XD Ill try Lenny ;)
[04:36] <Satzo> LinuX2half, in a vm
[04:37] <arrrghhh> cody_, the ubuntu team takes a big dump of whatever is in the debian-unstable tree i believe...
[04:37] <arrrghhh> debian-experimental?
[04:37] <LinuX2half> thats the only way?
[04:37] <Bof> Satzo: Thx..  I'll look to that, but a last thing if you can
[04:37] <Balsaq> if i get a virus in windows and its a dual boot computer, will that mess up the ubuntu?
[04:37] <jumpkick_> Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to make the ubnuntu splash screen actually tell me when it's going to do a fsck?
[04:37] <Satzo> Lingerance, well considering it is an OS setup routine.. i dont know of a better way offhand..
[04:37] <Satzo> Balsaq, doubtful
[04:37] <Bof> Satzo: In fact I want to update cause I have trouble to use toshiba utilities, you think it could help to update bios?
[04:37] <End_of_Eva-linux> agreed
[04:38] <End_of_Eva-linux> its pretty rare balsaq
[04:38] <cody_> Satzo: Holy holy! Lots of info (it was already installed haha) but it says BIOS is UPGRADEABLE
[04:38] <Satzo> Bof, read the changelog of the bios update for that
[04:38] <n2diy> Satzo: if it is an MBR viruis, it could.
[04:38] <Satzo> n2diy, agreed
[04:38] <leaf-sheep> jumpkick_: You could turn off the splash screen.
[04:39] <jumpkick_> leaf-sheep: can I just uninstall it or is there some funky deps
[04:39] <Bof> Satzo: Thank you..it's gonna help
[04:39] <Anonymust> I need help making my audio work...
[04:39] <cody_> Satzo: Think you could find it? http://pastebin.ca/1618646 I dont see it
[04:40] <Balsaq> satzo end_of_eva-linux thank you
[04:40] <kzetts> hi
[04:40] <Anonymust> Can someone help with Audio, I'm using Jaunty
[04:40] <LinuX2half> does qemu works in jaunty as well?
[04:40] <kzetts> how can i use the alternative cd to install just x and fluxbox
[04:40] <kzetts> i tried the minimal cd
[04:40] <kzetts> but its giving me deb package errors
[04:40] <Satzo> LinuX2half, far as i know
[04:41] <Anonymust> On a Macbook Pro
[04:41] <leaf-sheep> jumpkick_: You could uninstall it or just eliminate "splash" in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:41] <tomdavidson> hi, im having troubles seting up jack for a student radio broadcast. .... anoymust: i might
[04:41] <arrrghhh> kzetts, you should do the server install.  then install x and flux yourself...
[04:41] <LinuX2half> satzo, no...?
[04:41] <kzetts> server install?
[04:41] <tomdavidson> anonymust
[04:41] <arrrghhh> kzetts, yes.  as in ubuntu-server.  comes w/o X.
[04:41] <kzetts> wouldnt that be more "hardened" and limit me?
[04:41] <Anonymust> Yes, I've uninstalled ALSA and reinstalled
[04:41] <Satzo> LinuX2half, do u mean can qemu emulate jaunty??
[04:41] <Anonymust> tomdavidson, it just won't work
[04:42] <LinuX2half> satzo, no, I thought I could run windows....
[04:42] <Flannel> kzetts: Use the alternate CD to install a command line system (one of the F menus has this as an option, F4 or F5)
[04:42] <Satzo> Anonymust, do u get sound from a live cd boot?
[04:42] <cody_> Satzo: How great. Not even pheonix (BIOS manufacturer, not motherboard manufacturer) can give my updates. -_-
[04:42] <Satzo> cody_, im not surprised
[04:42] <Anonymust> Satzo, yes, I hadn't thought about it, but I did.
[04:42] <Satzo> LinuX2half, yer best off running an app like vbox
[04:43] <LinuX2half> satzo, why?
[04:43] <kzetts> Flannel: and then just install Xorg and fluxbox?
[04:43] <Satzo> Anonymust, does sound work in another userspace?
[04:43] <Satzo> LinuX2half, so you can do what you wanted to do??
[04:43] <Balsaq> ever since that spammer came aound my computer is slow
[04:43] <Anonymust> Satzo, I don't know.
[04:43] <Satzo> Anonymust, give it a try
[04:43] <Anonymust> brb
[04:43] <cody_> Satzo: Yea. Dublin modified it -_- so now i need to find THEIR changelog
[04:43] <LinuX2half> satzo, I'm lost at using the VBox...!
[04:43] <elchiludo> hey guys i have a pci express card on my otherboard,can i put in a 1 gb gddr3 graphiscs card? does the gdd1 and 2 and all thos abbreviations really matter?
[04:43] <Satzo> LinuX2half, google install virtualbox ubuntu 9.04
[04:44] <Satzo> lotsa howtos
[04:44] <Ninja67> salut
[04:44] <Satzo> bonjour
[04:44] <Ninja67> on parle tu francais ici ???
[04:44] <MenZa> !fr | Ninja67
[04:44] <Satzo> tres mal
[04:44] <elchiludo> je non parle francais
[04:44] <cody_> Satzo: To upgrade it, i will need windows :( I lost the original install CD. But well.... lets hope it works anyway
[04:45] <Anonymust> Satzo, no sound in guest account
[04:45] <Satzo> cody_, you can try a PE version of windows
[04:45] <cody_> Satzo: PE?
[04:45] <Satzo> Anonymust,  ok
[04:45] <elchiludo> hey guys i have a pci express card on my otherboard,can i put in a 1 gb gddr3 graphiscs card? does the gdd1 and 2 and all thos abbreviations really matter?
[04:45] <Satzo> portable edition of windows cody_
[04:45] <maestrojed> I build a test web server with Ubuntu. Remotely I sftp to it. I was thinking of running webdav. I would have to run it on the vhost /var/www so that I could access all of my accounts. But this is not a production server so I am curious... Any reason (security) I shouldn't do this?
[04:45] <cody_> Satzo: Where do i find it?
[04:46] <Satzo> cody_, do you 1. own windows and 2. have a spare hard disc?
[04:46] <Satzo> if you do, then install windows to update
[04:46] <LinuX2half> satzo, which use more RAM vmware or Vbox?
[04:46] <Satzo> its alot easier than explaining how to make a PE windows cd
[04:46] <cody_> Satzo: 1 Yes. It came with Windows XP. 2: No i do not own a spare Hard Drive (unless a Flash Drive counts :p)
[04:46] <Satzo> LinuX2half, no idea.. ive never used vmware as a virtualization
[04:47] <Satzo> cody_, well if u want to update bios bad enough, image your ubuntu(or save /home) and drop windows on it
[04:47] <Satzo> then put ubuntu back on
[04:47] <Anonymust> Satzo, idk if you read this, but I said that I have uninstalled and reinstalled ALSA. I read somewhere that people on Macbook Pro's were having the problem, it's a quick fix I guess, but still, I don't have any sound..
[04:47] <cody_> Satzo: Okay. Ill partition to make room for /home on a different partition
[04:47] <Satzo> Anonymust, linux audio i am weak with.. i dont have good understanding of it
[04:48] <Satzo> someone else here prolly does
[04:48] <cody_> Satzo: I am rebooting onto the live CD
[04:49] <Satzo> cody_, this might sound insane. but you might get away with running windows in vbox to flash bios
[04:49] <lilzeus> synaptic shows that open office calc is installed but it doesn't show up in Applications > Office, why?
[04:49] <Satzo> you are definitely on your own there :)
[04:49] <Satzo> lilzeus, system > preferences > main menu... check there
[04:49] <arrrghhh> Satzo, i would NOT recommend flashing a BIOS in that way....
[04:49] <slashdotfx> I'm having a random segfault on jaunty, anyone experience the same thing?
[04:50] <Satzo> arrrghhh, i know its insane :P
[04:50] <jamiewan> lilzeus: applications, accessories
[04:50] <arrrghhh> Satzo, just because flashing BIOS is not a good idea in general.  i try to avoid it, who cares if there's a newer version.  unless you need it, obviously...
[04:50] <slashdotfx> it's always on the latest update
[04:50] <Satzo> arrrghhh, i 100% agree
[04:50] <lilzeus> Satzo: I guess its called Formula?
[04:50] <Satzo> i warned them to read the changelogs first
[04:51] <lilzeus> jamiewan: it isn't there
[04:51] <Satzo> lilzeus, YES
[04:51] <Satzo> yes
[04:52] <lilzeus> what are some 'must have' apps?
[04:52] <ynk> is this the proper way to add a folder in my "File System" as an environmental path? "export PATH=${PATH}:/dev-tools/blahblahblah/"?
[04:52] <scunizi> lilzeus: no.. formula is for building formulas for print not calculations.. calc is basically excel
[04:52] <Satzo> scunizi, thx for the correction. :)
[04:53] <adam> what
[04:53] <lilzeus> scunizi: then where is calc? I have it installed but it doesn't show up
[04:53] <LinuX2half> does anyone know how to use a vbox?
[04:53] <lilzeus> omg
[04:53] <lilzeus> nevermind
[04:53] <scunizi> lilzeus: in a terminal try typing ooffice -calc %U
[04:53] <lilzeus> they call it Spreadsheet
[04:53] <scunizi> yes
[04:54] <JRWoodwardMSW> Well, I just got my first Ubuntu machine today -- six ours ago, a Dell netbook I would like to know how to create a shortcut from the desktop -- excuse me, too many years of Windows pollution, I mean a soft link. I'd like a terminal session link like the Python link in the application menu, but for perl. BTW, I already turned off the Dell Dock and switched to the default real Ubuntu desktop.
[04:54] <mrmowgli> hey is there a way to start up where you left off on the minimal installer?  Crashed but it got farther than usual
[04:54] <Loafers> When I run a program via shell, how do I use the command line while the program is running without doing Program & exit or opening a new tab.
[04:54] <lilzeus> what are some 'must have' apps for ubuntu?
[04:54] <infidel2s> how do you make it so pidgin messages dont show up in the indicator applet bubble thing?
[04:55] <Satzo> lilzeus, in what context?
[04:55] <infidel2s> Loafers hit ctrl+z
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> mrmowgli: No.
[04:55] <mrmowgli> loafers you stick a & after the end, it runs it as a background process
[04:55] <mrmowgli> *sigh*
[04:55] <lilzeus> Stazo: well, it would like a good replacement for Macromedia Dreamweaver
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> JRWoodwardMSW: Right-click on the file and create "Make Link"
[04:55] <Loafers> mrmowgli, thanks! just what I needed!
[04:55] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, i just add them to the top toolbar myself
[04:55] <lilzeus> sorry, Satzo
[04:55] <scunizi> Loafers: you could also use screen so you'll have a program running and be able to switch to another "shell".. then pop back and forth.. you can have multiple shells going.
[04:56] <JRWoodwardMSW> Satzo, how do I do that?
[04:56] <Loafers> scunizi, Screen?  Is that like another tab?  If so, I don't want to do that.
[04:56] <penguinup> infidel2s:  turn of the indicator applet bubble thing
[04:56] <Satzo> lilzeus, http://www.osalt.com   <-- spend some time there and bookmark it
[04:56] <scunizi> !screen | Loafers
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> !screen | Loafers
[04:57] <Loafers> scunizi, thanks.
[04:57] <scunizi> Loafers: it doesn't create tabs or anthing like that..
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> Oh you did it already. >_>
[04:57] <cody__> Can anybody walk me through the steps for creating a seperate partition for /home? I am shrinking the main linux partition from 54 GiB to 20GiB, and creating a new partition that is ext3 that is 34GiB. What else do i need to do?
[04:57] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, are the programs you need already in the applications toolbar?
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> !home | cody__
[04:58] <cody__> leaf-sheep: Thank you so much.
[04:58] <scunizi> cody__: keep shrinking .. root only needs to be between 8-12 gigs.. leave the rest for /home and at least 1 gig for /swap
[04:58] <JRWoodwardMSW> Only some, and I have a to add -- MySQL, Apache, PHP, PHPMyAdmin
[04:58] <Joker_-_> How do I setup an rsync mirror for my local network? (Got 5 computers all using ubuntu)
[04:58] <cody__> kay, does it have to check for file system errors? it needs to do it twice lol. I'm also going to create room for windows :p
[04:59] <Guest47046> how do i identify myself?
[04:59] <surgy> can someone please help me change the permision settings on these items so i can use my usb camera in winxp vbox? http://pastebin.com/m3cc70951
[04:59] <leaf-sheep> cody__: If you're using a computer, it's much easier to use a home on a separate partition. :3
[04:59] <leaf-sheep> cody__: I mean different hard drive.  Sorry.bette
[04:59] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, those are back-end things
[05:00] <Satzo> leaf-sheep, while were on topic, how much dirty work is involved with making /home on a remote connection via ssh?
[05:00] <Joker_-_> Is there a way Squid can cache the updates a computer does so that when an other computer on the network wants to update aswell, it's lightening fast?
[05:00] <cody__> Oh, and can i shrink it to just what it is using? and the new one to as large as possible. And leaf-sheep If i had a seperate HDD, i would ;)
[05:00] <cody__> I only have a 60GB hard drive :p
[05:01] <Satzo> cody__, get out of the 90s :P
[05:01] <JRWoodwardMSW> Except for PHP MyAdmin, yes. What I want are links to the things like admin pages, php.ini, etc.
[05:01] <cody__> Satzo: LOL I should right? :P I have a Emachines T4200 made way back when :P
[05:01] <cody__> It shipped with winXP though :P
[05:01] <scunizi> cody__: no leave it some room .. with 60 gigs use 8 gigs for / (root) and 1 gig for /swap and the rest for /home
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> Satzo: I'm not sure.  Doing it via commands would always take awhile.  I generally tar my ~/ to external drive. Making backup and whatnot.
[05:02] <cody__> scunizi: Okay, i will set it up to that after this finishes this current one haha
[05:02] <Satzo> leaf-sheep, yeah ill prolly end up doing that myself
[05:02] <cody__> scunizi: I also want to leave room for a windows partition. What should be the new setup?
[05:02] <Satzo> someday when i get more adept ill do a remote mount tho.. NFS i guess
[05:03] <JRWoodwardMSW> Never buying another Windows program again. Was an MCSE for six years, now in recovery. Can't stand the way Microsoft spends its money on politics -- they are a big right-wing donor, tho BillG plays the saintly philanthropist.
[05:03] <Satzo> cody__, xp runs just fine with 10gb
[05:03] <cody__> Satzo: It will be windows 7, i have the RC Iso they offered a while back :p
[05:03] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, are you comfy with the shell yet?
[05:03] <cody__> Well actually, it is on a DVD but still
[05:03] <Satzo> i ask this because you can do the things you wish there easily
[05:03] <scunizi> cody__: I'm not sure what a windows install will need.. 10 gigs?.. personally I would run windows in a virtual machine with virtualbox.. that way you don't have to reboot to bounce back and forth.. however vm's of windows don't run games well
[05:03] <leaf-sheep> Satzo: Mainly because I'm using a laptop (no separate internal hard drive for me. ;3)
[05:04] <Madcamper> im having trouble with dpkg-deb command, i did dpkg-deb -i filename.deb but it says to type help
[05:04] <cody__> scunizi: and for me, they never install well ;) Ive never successfully run windows in VirtualBxo
[05:04] <cody__> Box*
[05:04] <scunizi> Madcamper: dpkg -i <package name>
[05:04] <JRWoodwardMSW> I was admin to a FreeBSD box for three years; I have run Ubuntu under windows using Virtual Machine. Also, I was a DOS guy for 9 years before anybody ever heard of Windows.
[05:04] <cody__> does it really take 5 minutes to resize the partition -_-
[05:04] <Madcamper> ya i just realized that lmfao
[05:05] <turtlesnake> what is the proper way to disable ipv6.  dns resolution is slow on karmic for me.
[05:05] <Madcamper> thx
[05:05] <scunizi> cody__: I've done it many times.. running it now.. you can't use the -ose version.. get it from their site
[05:05] <scunizi> !ipv6
[05:05] <Satzo> cody__, i do it all the time.. i need xp for work reasons
[05:05] <scunizi> same here
[05:06] <cody__> scunizi: Dang. I have the OSE version :p I will get it from their site after i reboot. After the /home is on the new partition, will i be able to reinstall the hard drive so gnome will be the default manager again? KDE has gotten slow :(
[05:06] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, then you can do your requests easily with that shell experience
[05:06] <cody__> Without worrying about losing all my Personal files?
[05:06] <scunizi> !puregnome
[05:06] <cody__> reinstall ubuntu*
[05:06] <Satzo> if you want to get really lazy(errrr efficient) you can script with menus
[05:06] <cody__> scuninzi: LOL, i will need that again after i reboot ;)
[05:07] <cody__> Dang, 8 minute partitioning....
[05:07] <scunizi> have some coffee, scotch, beer whatever
[05:07] <cody__> scunizi: DR PEPPER! :P :D :)
[05:08] <cody__> scunizi: BTW, i dont drink cause im still in high school ;)
[05:08] <leaf-sheep> cody__: You certainly don't want to halt / interrupt the process. That'll result a mangled data. Just leave it alone.
[05:08] <Madcamper> how come i cant find python2.4-dbus?
[05:08] <cody__> leaf-sheep: I am waiting, i know that from personal experience *whistle*
[05:09] <leaf-sheep> cody__: Go to the fridge and snuck dad's beer out from the fridge.
[05:09] <JRWoodwardMSW> Yeah . . . but for speed's sake I'd like to have several desktops, one for each project, and switch, with the icons for all the scripts and directories right there for immediate use.
[05:09] <cody__> leaf-sheep: He doesnt drink either ;) No one in my family does XD
[05:09] <Balsaq> j #puppylinux
[05:09] <scunizi> cody__: good reason.. don't start.. stay away from the other xtra curricular activities as well.. you know, the stuff you parents would kill you if they caught you doing.. not worth it.
[05:10] <cody__> scunizi: Yep, i am actually working on gettting a grant for my universitys buisness department. :)
[05:10] <cody__> scunizi: Dont want to get distracted by extracurricular activities that parents would get mad at.
[05:10] <cody__> :p
[05:10] <sarloth> qq anyone know how (if it is possible) to start an X session (xinit) with a specific/non-standard xorg.conf?
[05:11] <Satzo> JRWoodwardMSW, ahhh.   ive no idea how to set that up
[05:11] <cody__> sarloth: Edit the xorg.conf :p
[05:11] <Satzo> if u can have desktops assigned to different userspaces...
[05:11] <sarloth> I guess I should have explained a bit better :P
[05:12] <sarloth> Anyone know how to xinit with a second xorg.conf? I have the default setup for booting, but I am trying to open a second x session with completely different settings.
[05:13] <ZykoticK9> sarloth, "X" has a "-config FILENAME" switch -- don't know if that helps at all
[05:13] <sarloth> ZykoticK9: awesome, I will give that a shot :)
[05:14] <Madcamper> is python2.4-dbus in the synaptics manager installer?
[05:14] <cody__> Good :) I still have the original WIN7 ISO file, and i can run it in Virtual box :D:D:D
[05:14] <Madcamper> cause i cant see it, maybe im just overlooking it?
[05:14] <r0y4lty> Hey everybody
[05:14] <cody__> r0y4lty: Hello
[05:15] <cody__> STILL partitioning :p
[05:15] <r0y4lty> I have a quick question, is it possible that i install moodin with apt-get?
[05:15] <cody__> r0y4lty: Yes, but i do not know the package name
[05:15] <r0y4lty> hmm
[05:15] <Satzo> u check synaptic?
[05:16] <cody__> tru sudo apt-get install moondin. It might not work, but its worth a shot. It might have a diff name
[05:16] <cody__> And also synaptic works. Search moondin in it
[05:16] <r0y4lty> kk
[05:16] <maestrojed> I built a test web server with Ubuntu. Remotely I sftp to it. I was thinking of running webdav. I would have to run it on the vhost /var/www so that I could access all of my accounts. But this is not a production server so I am curious... Any reason (security) I shouldn't do this?
[05:16] <r0y4lty> yeah i tried it but nothing ill give synaptic
[05:16] <r0y4lty> a try
[05:16] <cody__> r0y4lty: Okay, tell us the results ;)
[05:16] <scunizi> r0y4lty: maybe ksplash-engine-moodin  .. as the package name for apt-get install.. looks like a kde package though
[05:17] <Madcamper> python2.4-dbus help anyone?
[05:17] <r0y4lty> kk ill keep you updated
[05:17] <cody__> !ask | Madcamper
[05:17] <nic1> hi..do anyone know any tiling wm here? like xmonad etc.,?
[05:17] <scunizi> r0y4lty: at least that is what apt-cache search moodin returns
[05:17] <Madcamper> i did ask but ill ask again :o
[05:17] <Satzo> maestrojed, i cant see a problem.. is the box safe from the net?
[05:17] <Madcamper> is python2.4-dbus in the synaptics manager installer?
[05:17] <thedude42> maestrojed, as long as you follow best practices with the web server configuration and protect authentication properly, there is nothing inherently insecure about WEBDAV
[05:18] <cody__> Madcamper: It should be. Open Synaptic and search python and look for python2.4-dbus
[05:18] <Madcamper> kk ill look again
[05:18] <cody__> There must be something wrong with partitioning!!! It is STILL partitioning! Lol
[05:18] <maestrojed> Satzo thedude42 : Gr8 Thank you, I guess the fact that I knew few other people running webdav makes me worried there is some inherit reason not to. I appreciate the vote of confidence
[05:18] <r0y4lty> aha
[05:18] <r0y4lty> Package ksplash-engine-moodin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:18] <r0y4lty> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:18] <r0y4lty> is only available from another source
[05:18] <r0y4lty> E: Package ksplash-engine-moodin has no installation candidate
[05:18] <FloodBot3> r0y4lty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <mayki> i'm gonna need some help here, after restarting my ubuntu partition i got 2 errors, 1. it was saying it was ignoring .dmrc because it had the wrong permissions, i was able to resolve this by deleting the file (after chowning and chmoding it 3 times :|) anyway, second issue i don't quite understand, here is the error message (wrote it down and booted into windows):
[05:20] <mayki> first line:       /etc/gdm/Xsession:Beginning Session Setup...
[05:20] <mayki> second line: Setting IM through im-switch for locale = en_US.
[05:20] <thedude42> maestrojed, one of the bigger hits that IIS (microsoft's web server platform) got way back in the day was a WEBDAV exploit on server 2000, and because of that WEBDAV has a bad reputation.... but mosr SVN repos use WEBDAV for internet connected repositories
[05:20] <leaf-sheep> cody__: Wait a hour!
[05:20] <cody__> mayki: For multiple lines, please go to pastebin.ca
[05:20] <mayki> k
[05:20] <cody__> leaf-sheep: It never has taken this long, i have done this 4+ times in my time of ubuntu.
[05:21] <scunizi> !pastebin > mayki
[05:21] <leaf-sheep> cody__: Well I'm going to reboot.  Got a new kernel.
[05:21] <Madcamper> i didnt find dbus, but found python2.4, dbg, dev, and doc
[05:21] <cody__> leaf-sheep: Okay, cya soon
[05:21] <Madcamper> but those didnt help me
[05:21] <cody__> Madcamper: Ill look for it in a sec. I'm on liveCD and it is painfully slow :( lol
[05:22] <Madcamper> ok :P
[05:22] <mayki> here is the link http://pastebin.ca/1618667
[05:22] <cody__> Its having a HARD time opening synaptic
[05:22] <Madcamper> cody can you PM the info if you find it? gotta run downstairs rq ><
[05:22] <maestrojed> thedude42: Thx!
[05:22] <DaZ> cody__: you don't need it
[05:22] <cody__> DaZ: ???
[05:22] <DaZ> pr0s use the terminal  :f
[05:23] <cody__> mayki: Sorry, i dont know nothing of that :(
[05:23] <scunizi> lots of dbus references.. apt-cache search dbus
[05:23] <cody__> DaZ: I know nothing on searching for packages in temrinal ;)
[05:23] <Loafers> mrmowgli, lets say if I already have the program running, how do I gain control of the CMI without closing the program its running?
[05:23] <mayki> darn, usually ubuntu tells me "this is broken, fix it by doing this" or "this is what's broken" and i google it and i can get it fixed :(
[05:23] <DaZ> cody__: apt-cache search
[05:24] <cody__> mayki: Yea, ubuntu is usually good of letting you know, unlike windows: "ERROR! No definition of error!" :p
[05:24] <infidel2s> i just ran 'sudo apt-get remove indicator-applet' but it's still running. is that because i have to reboot or what?
[05:24] <DaZ> cody__: there's usually error code <:
[05:24] <cody__> Madcamper: What exactly was the package again?
[05:24] <cody__> DaZ: Yea, but ive gotten that exact one multiple times. xD
[05:24] <mayki> lol yeah, that's why i use ubuntu, unfortunately, when stuff like this happens, i have to rely on windows to help me fix it
[05:24] <cody__> mayki: I rely on the ubuntu LIVE CD to help me ;)
[05:24] <Madcamper> um, python2.4-dbus
[05:24] <cody__> I reinstall ubuntu for quickie work :3
[05:25] <mayki> i don't know what happened to mine
[05:26] <cody__> Madcamper: It might be just D-Bus. Do you see that? Exact name is: dbus :p
[05:26] <r0y4lty> cody, synaptics worked for me I found the package and it installed it, now the splash screen was applied
[05:26] <Madcamper> k let me look
[05:26] <mayki> would it be ok if i deleted the contents of /tmp? it's temporary right? so if i delete it the system should just recreate what it needs right?
[05:26] <r0y4lty> Thanks for your help bro
[05:26] <cody__> mayki: Uhm, i'm not 100% on that
[05:26] <Satzo> myaki why
[05:26] <mayki> i can't log in anymore
[05:27] <mayki> only to terminal, at first all my permissions were changed and i couldn't even cd $HOME
[05:27] <cody__> Madcamper: There is also: python-qt4-dbus and pyhon-qt4-dbus-dbg
[05:28] <mayki> i ended up having to do sudo chown and sudo chmod to my home folder and setting permissions to 777 JUST so i could cd
[05:28] <cody__> Madcamper: Click the dropdown arrow in synaptic, click search. Type dbus and change the dropdown to only name.
[05:28] <Satzo> mayki, that folder is cleaned every boot no?
[05:28] <mayki> after i deleted the .dmrc file though, it seemed ok, so i restarted, then it won't let me log in
[05:28] <dassouki> how can i compike a cpp project that only has a Makefile and a bunch of cpp/h files. i tried gcc main.cpp -o main, i also tried sudo make.. make Makefile ... the website nore the project include INSTALL file or documentation
[05:28] <mayki> idk
[05:28] <Satzo> hang on mayki
[05:28] <mayki> ok
[05:29] <Satzo> mayki, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/19/changing-the-tmp-cleanup-frequency/
[05:29] <DaZ> mayki: chown -R user ~/
[05:29] <JRWoodwardMSW> i got it -- made an Applications link to the perlconsole
[05:29] <DaZ> chmod o+rw -R ~/
[05:29] <mayki> yeah, i did that
[05:29] <cody__> To everybody: I'm going to go watch a movie. Pass the time for the partitioning :p TTYAL
[05:29] <thedude42> dassouki, did you look at the Makefile targets?
[05:29] <mayki> i did sudo chown -Rc mayki:mayki $HOME
[05:29] <r0y4lty> what movies you watching?
[05:29] <r0y4lty> movie*
[05:29] <dassouki> thedude42: i'm a nube, so i don't know what thatmeans
[05:30] <dassouki> thedude42: but i'm a good listener
[05:30] <mayki> then sudo chmod -R 644 $HOME
[05:30] <nic1> hey guys,i have one confusion about installations using apt-get
[05:30] <DaZ> you said 777 >:
[05:30] <raj> hey guys i need help with nvidia 6200 pci card. the stupid this wont load up properly even after installing the propetiary drivers from the hardware driver things by enabling it. i installed the nvidia 180 drivers. any help please? thx
[05:30] <thedude42> dassouki, the targets are all the words followed by ':' that are along the left margin of the file
[05:30] <mayki> ya
[05:30] <Satzo> nic1, what
[05:30] <mayki> cuz 644 wasnt working
[05:30] <mayki> i tried 600 first, then 644 then 777
[05:31] <mayki> 777 finally allowed me to cd to $HOME
[05:31] <nic1> if i get the source suing apt-get source and edit it, after that if i again install using apt-get, which codebase is used?
[05:31] <thedude42> dassouki, the targets are things you feed in to the 'make' command, so if you have a target calle 'all:' then you can run 'mak all'
[05:31] <nic1> the original one or my chages?
[05:31] <raj> hey guys i need help with nvidia 6200 pci card. the stupid this wont load up properly even after installing the propetiary drivers from the hardware driver things by enabling it. i installed the nvidia 180 drivers. any help please? thx
[05:31] <Satzo> nic1, the code from the repository
[05:31] <Satzo> i think....
[05:31] <dassouki> thedude42: http://pastebin.com/f422763c5
[05:31] <mayki> but when i restarted it told me permissions were wrong again, so i guess they were changing at boot? idk, i deleted the .dmrc file, and restarted, now i only get the 10 second error, anyway, brb, gonna go read that link i got
[05:32] <nic1> oh, after my changes if i install using ./configure, make and make install
[05:32] <raj> hey guys i need help with nvidia 6200 pci card. the stupid this wont load up properly even after installing the propetiary drivers from the hardware driver things by enabling it. i installed the nvidia 180 drivers. any help please? thx
[05:32] <Satzo> nic1, i would think, yes
[05:32] <nic1> my code changes wil come into picture right
[05:32] <Satzo> nic1, ive never done that myself
[05:32] <Guest65181> how can i find a tutorial for bluefish web editor
[05:32] <nic1> you would think?
[05:32] <Madcamper> back
[05:32] <Madcamper> was downstairs
[05:32] <cody__> r0y4lty: I will be watching: We are Marshall :D cya later
[05:33] <raj> anyone knows how to get nvidia 6200 pci card to work properly ? i have nvidia drivers 180 installed no luck .. anyone please help :( thx
[05:33] <thedude42> dassouki, try 'make shptrans.zip'
[05:33] <turtlesnake> anyone experience issues with the DNS resolver for karmic?  (e.g. multisecond delays before some addresses resolve)
[05:33] <DaZ> raj: i'm not sure if it's supported
[05:33] <achiang> fresh install of karmic, gnome-keyring doesn't seem to unlock my ssh key, so when i ssh from the terminal, i get prompted for my passphrase every time. known issue?
[05:33] <Satzo> turtlesnake, wrong channel
[05:34] <turtlesnake> Satzo: sorry, which channel should i be in?
[05:34] <achiang> oh, /me reads /subject
[05:34] <dassouki> thedude42: rc not find msdk
[05:34] <Satzo> turtlesnake, thats in the channel topic
[05:34] <Madcamper> hrm, still didnt let me dpkg my cedega
[05:34] <raj> DAZ: what do you mean? isnt all nvidia if not most supported?
[05:34] <Madcamper> still says, "cedega depends on python2.4-dbus"
[05:34] <thedude42> dassouki, i don't like the sounds of 'mdsk'
[05:34] <DaZ> raj: some series have legacy drivers
[05:35] <dassouki> rc /i "%MSSdk%\include" shptrans.rc
[05:35] <dassouki> thedude42: /\
[05:35] <nic1> i tried running ./configure for one of the packages i need to install, there are many error messages and the first is, ./configure: 53: cannot create conf5771.sh: Permission denied
[05:35] <Satzo> raj, nvidia dont support ALL cards.. pci is pretty old :/
[05:35] <nic1> any one knows, why i get above kind of error?
[05:36] <DaZ> Satzo: find me 6200 on pci ;f
[05:36] <Satzo> :P
[05:38] <nic1> hey can anyone help me installing the package? ./configure gives me errors..
[05:38] <DaZ> nic1: cool
[05:38] <Madcamper> nvm cody__, i got it working, i had to remove the cedega or something on here already
[05:38] <nic1> DaZ, kool?? help me out in fixing dude..
[05:39] <nic1>  tried running ./configure for one of the packages i need to install, there are many error messages and the first is, ./configure: 53: cannot create conf5771.sh: Permission denied
[05:39] <DaZ> nic1: there's nothing to fix
[05:39] <nic1> is it?
[05:39] <nic1> why do i get that permission denied error?
[05:39] <DaZ> it needs permission, give it or make it don't need it ;f
[05:39] <nic1> i dont think that is something which we cannot solve..
[05:40] <nic1> how to give permissions?
[05:40] <DaZ> nic1: sudo
[05:40] <nic1> sudo ./configure
[05:40] <SpArTaKo> en español
[05:40] <nic1> is this how i need to run?
[05:40] <SpArTaKo> puta madre en ingles y yo sin ingles sin barreras
[05:40] <DaZ> but using it with configure isn't good ;f
[05:40] <SpArTaKo> :(
[05:40] <DaZ> nic1: yes
[05:41] <Satzo> SpArTaKo, #ubuntu-es
[05:41] <grturner> !es | SpArTaKo
[05:42] <SpArTaKo> gracias
[05:43] <[1]fokuslee302> Q: im runing linux inside VMware as guest, liveCD, i can not get to VC #2 by alt+f2 or alt+fn any ideas? also tried ^ Alt fn no luck
[05:43] <Ilinca> anybody can help with how to connect an external drive to ubuntu comp?
[05:43] <raj> lspci | grep -i nvidia does givw me a LINE AND ITS RECOGNISED BUT MY 3d GRAPHICS DONT WORK :( ITS NVIDIA 6200 pci CARD . ANY HELP?
[05:43] <raj> sry for caps
[05:43] <hkeagle> is here english-speaking?
[05:43] <DaZ> Ilinca: just connect it ;f
[05:43] <Bluey> hkeagle: yes...
[05:43] <Satzo> [1]fokuslee302, CTRL + ALT
[05:44] <DaZ> raj: pci or pci-e <:
[05:44] <[1]fokuslee302> Satzo: yes i tried that ^ is ctrl
[05:44] <Satzo> sry
[05:44] <raj> Daz its a PCI
[05:44] <Ilinca> yeah :) says though unable to mount the volume
[05:44] <DaZ> oh my <:
[05:45] <[1]fokuslee302> Satzo: i also tried windows logo key plus alt..shift...nothing short of just smashing the keyboard LOL
[05:45] <raj> Daz I CANT GWT A PCIE SHOULD I GET AN agp CARD INSTEAD?
[05:45] <DaZ> raj: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep nvidia
[05:45] <Satzo> [1]fokuslee302,  no idea.. i cant even cross test... well yes i can
[05:45] <Satzo> let me give it a rip :P
[05:45] <DaZ> raj: agp is faster
[05:45] <Bluey> raj: agp is much faster, and probably works better
[05:45] <[1]fokuslee302> : )
[05:46] <Satzo> agp second hand is cheap too
[05:46] <raj> ok :) so i typed that command what do i do now :(
[05:46] <Bluey> Satzo: that too
[05:46] <DaZ> raj: output?
[05:46] <raj> yeah i might look for an agp tomorrow
[05:46] <raj> Daz ill paste it on paste bin 1 sec
[05:49] <nic1> why using sudo with ./configure is not good?
[05:49] <Satzo> [1]fokuslee302, i cant do it either :/
[05:49] <DaZ> nic1: because configure doesn't need that much of power ;f
[05:50] <Satzo> nic1, i wager because u install with root priv
[05:50] <raj> Daz ill paste it on paste bin 1 sec?
[05:50] <DaZ> raj: paste it faster ;f
[05:50] <raj> http://pastebin.ca/1618691
[05:51] <[1]fokuslee302> Satzo...i think it use to work...maybe its a VMware bug
[05:51] <[1]fokuslee302> Satzo i think it use to work on older version of VMware
[05:51] <Satzo> could be.. and there is no "send" of crtl-alt
[05:51] <raj> here can any1 help me . i am sorry my keyboard battery is low
[05:51] <DaZ> raj: glxinfo|grep direct
[05:52] <raj> daz: ok thx 1 sec leme try ur command
[05:53] <resno> i was messing around with chown and now i cant boot into linux. the last error says: chown: changing ownership of '/tmp/.x11-unix': read-only file system
[05:53] <raj> NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run.
[05:53] <raj> The current CPU does not support SSE.
[05:53] <raj>  thats what i get daz what does it mean?
[05:53] <binskipy2u> anyone here see any advantage going from a nicely working, setup ubuntu 9.04 to a new 9.10? or have made the move, even though it isnt final and decided it was a great idea?
[05:53] <nic1> satzo, what do you wager and why? dint get you
[05:54] <DaZ> raj: it means something bad <:
[05:54] <Bluey> solar system exploration?  :-)
[05:54] <Satzo> binskipy2u, id wait a month or so myself
[05:54] <Satzo> let the hyper folks find the problems :P
[05:54] <binskipy2u> lol :D
[05:54] <raj> Daz: lol is it fixable? is it the card? or is it my CPU processor?
[05:54] <Satzo> im gona wait myself.
[05:54] <acu> is anyone Ubuntu Certified Professional
[05:54]  * Bluey checks
[05:55]  * Bluey is maleish today.....
[05:55] <nic1> is there a certification for ubuntu?
[05:55] <nic1> how can we do that?
[05:55] <koolhead> nic1: yes
[05:55] <Satzo> acu its a free channel
[05:55] <DaZ> raj: it's either processor or software ;f
[05:55] <Satzo> nic1, yeah canonical.com has info
[05:55] <nic1> koolhead, how can do that? ok kool..
[05:55] <dassouki> is there a way i can do "patebinit command <yntax>
[05:55] <acu> Satzo: LOL - that is so great
[05:55] <koolhead> nic1: url has the details :D
[05:56] <raj> Daz: do u have any idea where i could find possible solutions?
[05:56] <DaZ> raj: tell me what model do you have
[05:56] <nic1> sure, wil go through
[05:56] <DaZ> raj: you can try nouveau drivers
[05:56] <DaZ> i'm not sure do they support 3d tho ;f
[05:56] <raj> geforce 6200 256MBS ddr2 PCI . ill try that . is it in synaptics?
[05:57] <DaZ> raj: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:57] <cody__> 8000 MiB = 8 GiB Right?
[05:57] <DaZ> raj: dunno ;f
[05:57] <raj> ok 1 sec
[05:57] <dassouki> i.e. how cna i store the output of a command using pastebinit
[05:57] <nic1> i tried making my package, i get the errors: lexer.c:1585: error: 'input' defined but not used                   make[2]: **** [lexer.lo] Error1
[05:57] <DaZ> dassouki: pipe it ;f
[05:58] <nic1> and few errors follow, can any one tel me the reason?
[05:58] <dassouki> thanks i did command | pastebinit '
[05:58] <raj> ok what am i looking for here? should i paste the results 4 u?
[05:58] <cody__> What would be the best partitions for having a sepatate home on a 60GB hard drive
[05:58] <dassouki> and it worked
[05:58] <DaZ> raj: paste <:
[05:59] <raj> okz
[05:59] <DaZ> raj: you can check flags for sse
[05:59] <Satzo> cody__, yes 800mib = 8gb
[06:00] <Satzo> 8000
[06:00] <cody__> I have: 8 GiB for System, 46.48 GiB for home, andfd 1.42 GiB for swap. is that good?
[06:00] <raj> http://pastebin.ca/1618693 here u go ....
[06:00] <cody__> and Satzo: 8192 is exactly 8 GibB
[06:00] <cody__> ;)
[06:00] <raj> flags for sse?
[06:00] <Satzo> i know
[06:00] <Satzo> but for ease of explanation
[06:00] <cody__> Yea :p
[06:00] <cody__> Imma take that as yes it is good ;)
[06:01] <cody__> kk, gonna finish movie, VERRRRRRRY good! :D
[06:01] <koolhead> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is it opening 4 everyone
[06:01] <raj> Daz i guess its the old processor not graphics card?
[06:01] <raj> i cant find SSE on flags
[06:02] <acu> cody__, OK - is not a trivial question - first the SWAP should be at least double than the amount of RAM
[06:02] <legend2440> koolhead: no its been down for a while. i tried it about 2 hours ago and it was down then
[06:02] <koolhead> legend2440: i thought sumthing wrong at my end
[06:02] <koolhead> :P
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> koolhead: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:04] <DaZ> raj: there is solution for this
[06:04] <DaZ> but i don't know it yet :F
[06:05] <raj> really :) great :D
[06:05] <DaZ> raj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1142924
[06:05] <raj> daz i really appreciate this
[06:05] <acu> cody__, also it depends whehter you install a workstation or a server
[06:06] <wonderboy> !cad
[06:06] <wonderboy> !autocad
[06:06] <wonderboy> :(
[06:06] <Satzo> wonderboy, osalt.com
[06:06] <acu> cody__, if you plan to install a lot of programs - /usr should be reasonable - I think if you do automatical partition - you get /usr maybe 4GB (if I am not wrong - which is too les
[06:07] <Laque> how do I get compiz to replace by default? I tried putting it in gnome-session-properties but I still have to type it in after logging in.
[06:07] <shm> hi...I am not able to get login screen...what could be reason?
[06:07] <leaf-sheep> wonderboy: Looks like you want 'qcad' but it's not AutoCad.
[06:07] <leaf-sheep> !info qcad | wonderboy
[06:07] <celthunder> shm what do you get?
[06:07] <nic1> hey anyone knows my errors regarding lexer.o?
[06:08] <Satzo> leaf-sheep, the site i mentioned has all of that ;P
[06:08] <wonderboy> Satzo:
[06:08] <nic1> i tried making my package, i get the errors: lexer.c:1585: error: 'input' defined but not used make[2]: **** [lexer.lo] Error1
[06:08] <leaf-sheep> Satzo: :3
[06:08] <wonderboy> Satzo:  thanks..:) now there is one more thing to look than directory.fsf.org :)
[06:09] <geekphreak> hiya all
[06:09] <celthunder> nic1 lower your warnings in the compiler...if you define something and not use it you should get a warning not an error
[06:09] <shm> just hang on pink backgound...with cursor having waiting symbol
[06:09] <Satzo> hi geekphreak
[06:09] <celthunder> shm can you boot to init 3?
[06:09]  * wonderboy installing qcad.
[06:10] <shm> celthunder: soorry, I am novice in linux etc.....How to boot to init 3
[06:10] <howdy`> hey, that's what i'm needing. lol. have an nvidia update.
[06:11] <nic1> celthunder,can you please tell me how i can lower the warnings...please...
[06:11] <sarloth> Hey guys, when using "xinit" with the "-config <filename>" option as a normal user it tells me I must use a relative path. When I use a path relative to the current directory it tells me it cannot find the file. Anyone have any idea what path I need to be relative to?
[06:12] <thedude42> sarloth, probably relative to the cwd where the file is executed from
[06:12] <celthunder> shm i'm not on ubuntu not sure how ubuntu handles init levels someone else will have to help you there
[06:13] <howdy`> it's usually inittab, but not this dist...
[06:13] <celthunder> yeah exactly
[06:13] <hkeagle> shm,type atl+ctrl+f1,see if you can get a login in text mode
[06:13] <Nehtaro> In application launchers, what do the things like %u %U or %F mean?
[06:14] <celthunder> Nehtaro, variables
[06:14] <shm> hkeagle: I am able to get login in text mode
[06:14] <carpediem> Nehtaro: usually to pass the URL when you click a link
[06:14] <nic1> Hey can anyone help me in reducing the warning levels on ubuntu?
[06:14] <carpediem> nic1: what warning levels
[06:14] <geekphreak> shm during bootup can you start ubuntu in resuce mode?
[06:14] <r0y4lty> Does anyone know if i can have a console on mydesktop thats not going to move or anything?
[06:15] <Nehtaro> celthunder: So if I were to create an emacs launcher (I accidentally deleted it), should I use any?
[06:15] <howdy`> it still says "running x server" in my instance.
[06:15] <sarloth> thedude42: you mean the cwd in my cli? it tells me it can't find it (Like I said) I run " :~$xinit /usr/bin/wine "C:\Program Files\Conquer 2.0\autopatch.exe" -- :1 -config xorg16.conf" from ~ (xorg16.conf is in ~) and it tells me it cannot find xorg16.conf
[06:15] <Nehtaro> carpediem: So if I were to create an emacs launcher (I accidentally deleted it), should I use any?
[06:15] <hkeagle> shm,login in,and try to run startx
[06:15] <carpediem> r0y4lty: need more info...you meen like a desktop widget?
[06:15] <carpediem> Nehtaro: no need 99% of the time
[06:15] <Nehtaro> carpediem: Alright, thank you.
[06:15] <r0y4lty> well ive seen it on some desktops like its just there i dont have to open it up or anything
[06:15] <Laque> nvm, #compiz helped me solve it
[06:16] <shm> geekphreak: what keys to use to start in rescue mode. It does not show any option any such option
[06:16] <r0y4lty> and it doesnt have any border
[06:16] <r0y4lty> it looks like part of the desktop its self
[06:16] <shm> hkeagle: i have tried startx....but it didn't work
[06:16] <geekphreak> shm: during bootup menu it should show you the resuce option?
[06:16] <carpediem> r0y4lty: yeah, those are usually part of something like gdesklets.  You may also like tilda
[06:17] <howdy`> the lt,ctl,f1 keys worked, except i need that at logon. getting init 3 at reboot...  anyone?
[06:17] <r0y4lty> tilda?
[06:17] <r0y4lty> ill look at it
[06:17] <r0y4lty> thanks
[06:17] <nic1> carpediem, i tried making a package, and just a variable being declared and not being used stops my make telling error:
[06:17] <thedude42> sarloth, no, just because you run the command from your cwd doesn't mean the cwd doesn't change once execution starts.... I would start assuming the location of xinit as the cwd
[06:17] <nic1>  tried making my package, i get the errors: lexer.c:1585: error: 'input' defined but not used make[2]: **** [lexer.lo] Error1
[06:17] <shm> hkeagle: it show fatal server error: and some xlib and xinit error when doing startx
[06:18]  * geekphreak is on ubuntu 8.10
[06:18] <nic1> carpedium, so i like to make that error as warning and try making again
[06:18] <carpediem> nic1: if the compiler decides its an error, its an error.
[06:18] <carpediem> nic1: you can't "make it a warning"
[06:19] <hkeagle> shm,is it your first time to start ubuntu?
[06:19] <shm> not actually
[06:20] <koolhead> any ubuntu pkg maintainer here
[06:20] <koolhead> ?
[06:20] <nic1> so i wil not be able to make it?
[06:20] <carpediem> nic1: but a little googling shows that that package has problems being compiled with gcc 4.3
[06:20] <nic1> oh? so i wil not be able to make it up here?
[06:21] <howdy`> i'm gonna go try some things. thanks for the effort.
[06:21] <glick> hi
[06:21] <glick> hey is anyone running 9.10 already?
[06:21] <carpediem> nic1: you will need to use an older gcc, or find out if the developers have fixed the issue.  Google is a good place to search for your error.
[06:22] <hkeagle> shm,then what did you do during your last login
[06:22] <frack> does $ locate  search all subdirectories?
[06:22] <carpediem> nic1: I googled for you, and there's plenty of info to look at
[06:22] <prince_jammys> glick: /join #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <carpediem> frack: yes, but, it gets updated daily, so it is not always up to date.
[06:22] <prince_jammys> frack: locate uses a database.
[06:23] <frack> Ah... new to ubuntu and i dont like to ask questions, but i'm trying to find a file on my usb drive that contains the word "shovel"
[06:23] <prince_jammys> in the file NAME or in the file CONTENTS?
[06:23] <suraj> frack: cd /path/to/usb && grep -iE "shovel" -r . -l
[06:23] <carpediem> frack: for true results, try find.  such as "find . -name *foo*
[06:23] <ranjan>  i am having some problem in installing bilbo can any body can tell me how to install bilbo on ubuntu 8.04............??
[06:23] <hkeagle> shm,did you install a video driver or something?
[06:23] <frack> ta :D
[06:24] <nic1> carpediem, sure i wil google and can you please tell me command to see the version of gcc?
[06:25] <carpediem> ranjan: I would suggest finding a ppa that contains bilbo, much easier than building your own.
[06:25] <hkeagle> gcc -v
[06:25] <raj> guys how do you start envyNG? i cant find it under the application list
[06:26] <carpediem> raj: I think its envyng-gtk
[06:26] <suraj> I have this noisy Sun Fire T1000 server sitting next to me. It only has a serial console - no CD/keyboard/mouse/etc., I'd like to install Ubuntu on it. Pointers please? ubuntu.com/sun only lists a cd-image for download
[06:26] <ranjan> carpediem_i have found an  ppa  but it was not containing any packace for 8.04
[06:27] <DaZ> raj: did you fix it? :f
[06:27] <carpediem> suraj: man, that's going to be hard without a kb/mouse
[06:27] <raj> Daz not really im doing it with envyng now ill tel u what happens
[06:28] <suraj> carpediem: It does have serial console access - so assume that's solved... ;)
[06:28] <carpediem> suraj: I can tell you how to install from a USB thumb drive, if that helps.
[06:28] <geekphreak> suraj:  aint you lucky lol
[06:28] <suraj> carpediem: no USB thumb drive either
[06:28] <suraj> geekphreak: sure ;)
[06:29] <carpediem> suraj: what media input do you have, if you don't have CD or USB?
[06:29] <geekphreak> suraj: got a hammer?
[06:29] <geekphreak> just kidding
[06:29] <suraj> carpediem: network, yes.
[06:29] <carpediem> suraj: I mean, I have heard of network installs, but I've never tried it.
[06:29] <carpediem> suraj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server and network installations
[06:30] <shma> hi...sorry, I was discussing my login problem with nick shm, but this computer has been taken by some other user...so I might miss some messages...
[06:31] <eshannon> gparted wil lnot let me format my 1.5 tb drive to xfs? What can I do to format to xfs
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> eshannon, you have to unmount it first
[06:32] <carpediem> eshannon: well, install xfsprogs, and then it will probably let you
[06:32] <eshannon> Ty the drive is not mounted
[06:32] <carpediem> eshannon: xfsprogs isn't installed by default, and so gparted will grey xfs out
[06:32] <carpediem> eshannon: but once you install it, it will be enabled in gparted
[06:33] <eshannon> Ty
[06:33] <Satzo> hey eshannon howd the format go
[06:33] <Satzo> n/m :)
[06:33] <artistxe> ?
[06:34] <eshannon> Got my drive working last night and got everything move thanks for the help last night
[06:34] <Seventoes> is it possible to boot off of the 9.10 iso with grub (not grub2)
[06:34] <eshannon> Thanks xfs is working now
[06:34] <assoguerozen_sx> guys, what is the command to activate gnome-volume-control tray icon?
[06:34] <Satzo> Seventoes, #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <concretesledge> what is the best DVD MOVIE decoder burner?
[06:39] <IceGuest_75> concretesledge I like to use three KB
[06:39] <KB1JWQ> !poll
[06:39] <BugsCrash> How to : install a touch for Hp tx2 touchsmart with hid driver for ntrig? Ubuntu 9.10 ( I have the .c drivers).
[06:40] <BugsCrash> How to : install a touch for Hp tx2 touchsmart with hid driver for ntrig? Ubuntu 9.10 ( I have the .c drivers). Please pvte-me (on away)
[06:42] <Teclys> whats the easiest way to set up a static ip in ubuntu?
[06:42] <bhearsum> is Rhythmbox supposed to support password protected podcasts? i've read that it does, but i can't make it work
[06:42] <concretesledge> im using DVD-Author
[06:42] <leaf-sheep> Teclys: The easiest way to set up a static IP would be using the router instead.
[06:43] <halberd> hi, my caps lock key has mysteriously switched back to being a caps lock key, after I changed it to a cntrl key (months ago)
[06:43] <Guest54373> .
[06:43] <indus> halberd: nice
[06:43] <Teclys> leaf-sheep: alright, I'll look into that. thank you. there's no way to do it on the system itself? im comfortable with the terminal
[06:44] <halberd> what can I do?
[06:44] <indus> halberd: ubuntu works in mysterious ways, anyways why dont you reassign it
[06:44] <halberd> /etc/console-setup/boottime.kmap.gz is the same as what I edited it to be, which has all Caps_Lock 's replaced with Control 's
[06:44] <leaf-sheep> Teclys: Yes there are. I don't know it myself but do use Google to find out. It's easier to use router because if you're using laptop, you'd want to switch back to dhcp especially if you're on the go often.
[06:44] <halberd> and I also set it through System->administration->keyboard
[06:45] <halberd> but it doesn't work
[06:45] <concretesledge> Iceman_B,
[06:45] <halberd> I can reboot but why do I have to
[06:45] <Teclys> leaf-sheep, that makes sense. thank you.
[06:45] <concretesledge> K3B doesnt decode the AVI
[06:45] <halberd> alright tell you what I'll just reboot and get back to you
[06:45] <halberd> this did happen immediately upon booting though
[06:45] <indus> halberd: maybe you aer usiing a different keyboard layout
[06:45] <halberd> at the last boot
[06:45] <Teclys> i very easily get ahead of myself when it comes to grandiose home networking plans haha
[06:45] <ubuntu-noob> what is the linux version of command "ipconfig"
[06:45] <halberd> I don't see what could have changed my keyboard layout
[06:46] <The_Doctor> concretesledge try acid rip.
[06:46] <Seventoes> ubuntu-noob: ifconfig
[06:46] <halberd> er I meant System->preferences->keyboard
[06:46] <indus> ubuntu-noob: ifconfig
[06:46] <The_Doctor> ubuntu-noob ifconfig
[06:46] <halberd> it's USA layout
[06:46] <halberd> as I'm sure it's been all along
[06:46] <jamiewan> concretesledge: try K9copy
[06:47] <ubuntu-noob> so its the same ?
[06:47] <indus> halberd: karmic koala?
[06:47] <indus> ubuntu-noob: its i F config
[06:47] <halberd> what does that mean indus
[06:47] <indus> so f instead of p
[06:47] <Teclys> another question, if i set up my linux system for remote access, can I access it from a system running off of a live cd or live usb key?
[06:47] <The_Doctor> ubuntu-noob know there is an F.
[06:47] <indus> halberd: i mean are you using 9.10?
[06:47] <halberd> oh is that the next version of ubuntu
[06:47] <ubuntu-noob> oh
[06:47] <halberd> no, 9.04
[06:47] <indus> ubuntu-noob: happens :)
[06:48] <Seventoes> yeah iF, not IP
[06:48] <indus> halberd: sorry , no idea,but in 9.10 i cant set some keys
[06:48] <nic1> got a patch file confuse-2.6-r3.ebuild to recover from the error i am getting from the confuse package. How do i need to patch it?
[06:48] <nic1> please someone help me
[06:48] <halberd> I don't see why OS developers have to code name everything
[06:48] <halberd> it's easier for me to remember 9.10 than "karmic koala"
[06:48] <leaf-sheep> Teclys: Pretty much yes.  Assuming you did set up port forwarding on the router.
[06:48] <Teclys> but karmic koala sounds so cute
[06:48] <indus> halberd: can you try reassign another key and see if that works
[06:49] <Teclys> leaf-sheep, port forwarding is exact;y what im in the process of
[06:49] <Seventoes> halberd: a google search for "9.10" brings up more than ubuntu. a search for "karmic koala" is going to be a little more narrowed
[06:49] <dsnyders> Help! my machine's in a coma!  I can ping it but no response on keyboard.  ssh hangs.
[06:49] <halberd> Seventoes, a search for "ubuntu 9.10" would get you what you need
[06:50] <jony123> Anyone here know how to setup a smtp server and could help me with an error i get
[06:50] <The_Doctor> dsnyders is this a laptop.
[06:50] <Seventoes> halberd: but 9.10 doesnt have an adjective and animal in it. so ha.
[06:50] <dsnyders> The_Doctor: No, it is a desktop.
[06:50] <halberd> sure it does... niney tendonitis
[06:50] <halberd> does tendonitis count as an animal?
[06:51] <nic1> carpediem, i got the ebuild patch for my error, can you please tel me how to patch it??
[06:51] <Teclys> 0.0.
[06:51] <Seventoes> rofl no diseases dont count as animals lol
[06:51] <halberd> but what if you keep them as pets
[06:51] <carpediem> nic1: ebuilds are gentoo
[06:51] <nic1> meaning?
[06:51] <The_Doctor> dsnyders do you know how you had your power settings set up
[06:51] <vox> guys, keep it on-topic or move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:51] <halberd> alright
[06:51] <carpediem> nic1: meaning, gentoo != ubuntu
[06:51] <concretesledge> I want to take an AVI off my harddrive, and burn it to DVD.
[06:52] <nic1> oh
[06:52] <nic1> what is gentoo?
[06:52] <carpediem> vox: who's off topic?
[06:52] <vox> nic1: a different type of linux
[06:52] <lstarnes> nic1: it's a different linux distribution
[06:52] <lstarnes> nic1: it uses ebuilds instead of .deb packages
[06:52] <vox> carpediem: seventoes and halberd
[06:52] <nic1> so this patch i can't use on ubuntu right? ok alright
[06:52] <nic1> oh..ok..
[06:52] <petafile> I can't connect to packages.ubuntu.com from firefox.  Is it down currently?
[06:52] <The_Doctor> concretesledge do you want it as a DVD file or an AVI file?
[06:52] <carpediem> vox, oh, sorry, thought you were talking to us.
[06:53] <Satzo> concretesledge, how pro an app do you need?  quick and dirty or detailed?
[06:53] <vox> carpediem: not at all
[06:53] <dsnyders> The_Doctor: Not entirely sure.  Screen goes off after half an hour or so, and one of the drives seems to shut itself down periodically.
[06:53] <concretesledge> quick and dirty.. i just want to burn an AVI to dvd, so that it can be played in any dvd player
[06:53] <carpediem> petafile: doesn't work for me either, so I guess so
[06:53] <Satzo> concretesledge, http://www.osalt.com/kino
[06:53] <petafile> carpediem, @#$@#  Thanks
[06:54] <Satzo> concretesledge, im still looking....
[06:54] <carpediem> petafile: it was up not too long ago, so it is probably momentary.
[06:54] <The_Doctor> dsnyders I would do a hard shut down and reboot and check them out.
[06:54] <prince_jammys> !info devede | concretesledge
[06:55] <Teclys> ahh new question. ubuntu will not recognize my roommate's samsung rogue. any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:55] <ablmf> If I physically remove the video card of a PC, could installed ubuntu still start working?
[06:55] <vox> Teclys: how do you mean "wont recognise"
[06:55] <lstarnes> ablmf: do you have an integrated video adapter?
[06:55] <mneptok> ablmf: i expect the BIOS would complain about not having any video device whatsoever
[06:56] <ablmf> Yeah, it is on board.  But it is sealed by DELL
[06:56] <concretesledge> devede worked
[06:56] <concretesledge> thanks
[06:56] <ablmf> there is a on board video card.
[06:56] <Satzo> ablmf, should be ok
[06:56] <mneptok> ablmf: should be fine
[06:57] <The_Doctor> abimf you may have to tell the computer to use the onboard video in the bios.
[06:57] <ablmf> OK, then I will try.  There is only one pcie x4 slot
[06:57] <ablmf> So I need to unplug the video card because I need the pcie slot
[06:57] <carpediem> Teclys: is that Rogue an android phone?
[06:58] <Teclys> vox: when i plug it in through usb, nothing happens
[06:58] <Teclys> carpediem: no, I wish. I'm wairting on my motorola sholes though
[06:58] <Satzo> Teclys, what does lsusb report?
[06:59] <carpediem> Teclys: it's now Droid and I'm waiting too...Oct 30
[06:59] <carpediem> Teclys: that said, I wouldn't necessarily expect a random OS phone to connect to Linux
[07:00] <concretesledge> DeVeDe works great.
[07:00] <concretesledge> thanks
[07:00] <evanpro> hi all
[07:00] <evanpro> So, I upgraded to Karmic
[07:00] <evanpro> Probably shouldn't have
[07:00] <evanpro> so everything's my own fault
[07:00] <concretesledge> HAHA
[07:00] <evanpro> mea maxima culpa
[07:00] <concretesledge> karmic is ok
[07:00] <evanpro> Anyways
[07:00] <concretesledge> but it still has alot of issues
[07:00] <evanpro> Did an apt-get upgrade this afternoon
[07:00] <concretesledge> what problems are you having
[07:00] <Teclys> evanpro, i've been running karma since alpha 3 no problems, at all.
[07:00] <evanpro> Tonight when I booted
[07:00] <Omlette> Frankly, Karmic works better than Jaunty on my computer. :P
[07:01] <evanpro> OK
[07:01] <evanpro> So I don't feel so bad
[07:01] <evanpro> Anyways
[07:01] <FloodBot3> evanpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <evanpro> Tonight I booted up
[07:01] <Teclys> omlette, same here
[07:01] <evanpro> And boot stopped after "Starting init crypto disks"
[07:01] <indus> Teclys: thats random comment
[07:01] <carpediem> evanpro: #ubuntu+1
[07:01] <Teclys> indus: sorry?
[07:02] <evanpro> Booted into a USB key, chrooted into the main hard drive, updated and upgraded again
[07:02] <evanpro> Same problem when I rebooted
[07:02] <joebodo> is there an email checker applet for  gmail that doesnt suck ?
[07:02] <evanpro> I assume that the init script right after /etc/init.d/crypto-early is causing the problem
[07:02] <indus> Teclys: alpha 3 no problems etc , if an alpha doesnt have problems, its a bad thing'
[07:02] <evanpro> But I don't know how to figure out what it is.
[07:02] <Satzo> evanpro wrong chan
[07:02] <evanpro> Oh, sorry.
[07:02] <indus> Teclys: karmic has had major breakages at least thrice
[07:02] <Teclys> indus: i meant that it was overall stable for basic use.
[07:03] <indus> Teclys: ya nvm
[07:03] <Teclys> indus: which it is, and has been
[07:03] <evanpro> Satzo: can you point me in the right direction?
[07:03] <joebodo> ive been using karmic since alpha 5 - some small issues - but always workable
[07:03] <evanpro> Oooooh
[07:03] <evanpro> carpediem: thanks
[07:03] <evanpro> Satzo: thanks
[07:03]  * evanpro is joining #ubuntu+1
[07:03] <indus> evanpro: are you going to install karmic?
[07:04] <knoppix> can anyone help me Im having errors just running the live ubuntu cd
[07:04] <toefur> i just installed ubuntu a few days ago and im trying to find a emu for winxp so i can run xp
[07:04] <joebodo> knoppix, what issue ?
[07:04] <toefur> is qemu the best free option?
[07:04] <knoppix> the errors Im getting are ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action oxe frozen
[07:04] <knoppix> ata2: irq_stat 0x000000040, connection status changed
[07:04] <knoppix> ata2: SError: {DevExch}
[07:04] <vox> toefur: it's... the best of a bad bunch
[07:04] <joebodo> toefur, virtualbox is probably the best option
[07:05] <knoppix> i dont even get to graphic install
[07:05] <ubuntu_> privet mir
[07:05] <Satzo> toefur, i prefer vbox
[07:05] <knoppix> stays at terminal and keeps scrolling these errors
[07:05] <joebodo> !virtualbox
[07:05] <toefur> i tried to install virtual box but i kept getting errors about not able to create a image
[07:05] <Satzo> toefur, which did you try to install?
[07:05] <toefur> vbox
[07:05] <toefur> with windows xp
[07:05] <Satzo> no which port?
[07:05] <joebodo> is there an email checker applet for  gmail that doesnt suck ?
[07:06] <Satzo> read the trigger above
[07:06] <toefur> i had a prob creating a *.img
[07:06] <mneptok> joebodo: gmail-notify
[07:06] <Satzo> img??
[07:06] <joebodo> mneptok, thx ill try that out
[07:06] <toefur> isnt that what i have to create to get windows running?
[07:06] <toefur> on a img
[07:06] <mneptok> joebodo: the icon and notification windows artwork leaves something to be desired, but it works well
[07:06] <toefur> hold on let me go outside for a min and i would love the help to get virtualbox running
[07:06] <toefur> i need myscribe bad and i dont want to dual boot
[07:07] <evanpro> indus: I already did
[07:07] <The_Doctor> toefur are you referring to an ISO?
[07:07] <Satzo> toefur, im around for 10 more mins then im gone
[07:07] <toefur> i have the iso
[07:07] <Satzo> The_Doctor, thats what i was wondering
[07:07] <The_Doctor> that is what you use
[07:08] <Satzo> also, u can use an actual cd/dvd if u want
[07:08] <Satzo> images are faster is all
[07:08] <joebodo> mneptok, i've been hunting for one that has been updated to use the new notifications
[07:09] <knoppix> im running an evga x58 mobo 4gig ddr3 domminator i7 920 stock. anyone else had this problem?
[07:10] <noobula> is there a win7 gui for linux out there?
[07:10] <MikeChelen> ??
[07:10] <knoppix> ??
[07:10] <noobula> *I meant an ui that is simular
[07:10] <knoppix> lool
[07:11] <MikeChelen> noobula: oh hehe, maybe compiz? also kde4
[07:11] <joebodo> knoppix, what error ?
[07:11] <knoppix> ata2: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4000000 action oxe frozen
[07:11] <knoppix> ata2: irq_stat 0x000000040, connection status changed
[07:11] <knoppix> ata2: SError: {DevExch}
[07:11] <Satzo> noobula, u mean a theme?
[07:11] <knoppix> keeps scrolling on terminal
[07:11] <knoppix> I never get to graphical install
[07:11] <yukongt> i cant get two finger scroll to work. When i turn it on, it just doesnt work. the option to scroll on the side does work though. Is there any way my touchpad just doesnt support two fingers?
[07:11] <knoppix> or live desktop
[07:12] <Ninja67> hello ppl sum budy at montreal ???
[07:13] <Satzo> plenty of people in montreal
[07:13] <The_Doctor> noobula have you tried KDE-look or gnome-look?
[07:13] <toefur> is there a tutorial to getting windows XP installed with vbox with internet
[07:13] <joebodo> knoppix, maybe ata is sata related ?
[07:13] <Satzo> toefur, its pretty simple
[07:13] <mneptok> Ninja67: almost 6 million people. why?
[07:13] <toefur> im new to linux altogether
[07:14] <toefur> im not good at the command line
[07:14] <Satzo> once vbox is up and running, you goto the settings > DVD rom
[07:14] <Satzo> and specify the .iso file
[07:14] <Satzo> this isnt command line
[07:14] <The_Doctor> toefur I think you might find something on YouTube.
[07:14] <Satzo> its all gui
[07:14] <knoppix> let me see something
[07:14] <Satzo> you DO have this installed toefur ?
[07:14] <toefur> i dont have vbox installed
[07:14] <Satzo> well that changes things
[07:14] <toefur> just do sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[07:14] <Ninja67> quand tu es un artiste tu peux pas etre une vedette
[07:14] <Satzo> yeah The_Doctor is right.. hit youtube
[07:15] <prince_jammys> !virtualbox | toefur
[07:15] <Satzo> !virtualbox
[07:15] <noobula> Thanks Doc
[07:15] <Satzo> you want the free one
[07:15] <penguincentral> how can i check the permissions of a folder in terminal?
[07:15] <joebodo> !fr | Ninja67
[07:15] <Satzo> penguincentral, ls -l
[07:15] <penguincentral> thanks
[07:15] <Ninja67> c'est ok je comprends l'anglais
[07:15] <joebodo> k
[07:15] <The_Doctor> penguincentral you can just right-click a folder and go to the permissions tab.
[07:15] <SharpRain> "ooo - booon - too", "ooo - bun - too" or "you - bun/boo - too" ? I used to use the second, but now I use the first after being corrected.
[07:16] <prince_jammys> i use Youbuntu.
[07:16] <prince_jammys> but that's "wrong"
[07:16] <Flannel> !pronounce
[07:16] <HappyHobo> I use uh bun two
[07:16] <slacker_nl> web interface to ubuntu down?
[07:17] <slacker_nl> ubuntu packages that is
[07:17] <knoppix> disconnected the HDD and still same error
[07:17] <HappyHobo> oh yeah you're screwed
[07:17] <Satzo> Ubuntu is Swahili for "I Can't install Slackware!!!!"
[07:17] <Satzo> get it right folks..
[07:17] <concretesledge> Debian has 5 DVD's?
[07:17] <The_Doctor> knoppix would another live CD boot?
[07:17] <concretesledge> i thought it was suppose to be light
[07:18] <joebodo> knoppix, any options in bios related to sata that can be changed ?
[07:18] <knoppix> nope all give me these outputs
[07:18] <Tarrok> hi every body...i would know where i can find bind support?
[07:18] <The_Doctor> knoppix have you ever had Linux on this machine?
[07:18] <HappyHobo> I have a slow beer buzz which is worse than nothing at all
[07:18] <concretesledge> netbook remix runs slow on my machine
[07:18] <concretesledge> and i dont like it
[07:18] <concretesledge> i wnat something light
[07:19] <concretesledge> but yet effective
[07:19] <knoppix> im not using the jmicron controllers on the mobo. set intel controllers to ide?
[07:19] <prince_jammys> concretesledge: install debian from the minimal CD, if you want light and debian. or ubuntu minimal
[07:19] <joebodo> knoppix, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-bugs/2009-May/051765.html
[07:20] <knoppix> yea 10 min and froze. rebooted kept getting the same error.
[07:20] <HappyHobo> does anyone here actually use ubuntu?
[07:20] <joebodo> knoppix, maybe a bios upgrade is required
[07:20] <concretesledge> where can i get ubuntu minimal
[07:20] <knoppix> when it was installed and i pressed cntrl+alt-f1 it would be displaying the same error
[07:20] <concretesledge> or debian minimal
[07:20] <prince_jammys> !minimal | concretesledge
[07:20] <concretesledge> ISO, it needs to be bootable by USB
[07:20] <prince_jammys> concretesledge: for debian, /join #debian
[07:21] <knoppix> already upgraded to newest bios as well as tested all mem sticks
[07:21] <lise> hola
[07:22] <prince_jammys> concretesledge: then if you want a gui, install xorg and a light window manager, like fluxbox, enlightenment, openbox, etc. or something like lxde or xfce
[07:22] <knoppix> joebodo, yea thats the error
[07:22] <HappyHobo> or afterstep or windowmaker
[07:22] <prince_jammys> !install | concretesledge : for more ways of installing, see
[07:23] <lise> ok
[07:23] <joebodo> knoppix, not sure if yours is HP - but they said a bios upgrade fixed the issue
[07:24] <knoppix> on phone with evga maybe they can help out. I'll post answer if possible
[07:24] <nic1> i got a diff.gz to fix bug in a package, on ubuntu..can anyone please tell me how can i use this diff file to come out of the errors?
[07:25] <The_Doctor> nic1 just do a Google search to find out how to put in a.GZ file
[07:25] <nic1> ok
[07:25] <free_loader> is there a command to check all the users/groups of a machine?
[07:27] <prince_jammys> free_loader: check what about them? list them?
[07:31] <free_loader> prince_jammys : yes, and find out what folder/file permission they have
[07:31] <prince_jammys> free_loader: see the files /etc/passwd and /etc/group, or look at the gnome's GUI app under ''Users and Groups'' in the menus.
[07:31] <free_loader> no GUI, this is a server
[07:31] <prince_jammys> then the two files i mentioned will show you a list.
[07:32] <Satzo> cat /home ? free_loader
[07:32] <Flannel> free_loader: "groups username" will give you all groups a particular user is a member of
[07:33] <saik0> is there a way to "launch" a .desktop file from the shell?
[07:33] <al__> evening all
[07:34] <free_loader> Satzo : all users needn't have a directory inside /home
[07:34] <knoppix> they said they dont support linux
[07:34] <free_loader> Flannel : provides the same function as $id [username]
[07:34] <knoppix> LOL
[07:34] <prince_jammys> free_loader: you may also type ''getent passwd'' or ''getent group'' to view the lists.
[07:35] <knoppix> joebodo, just finished building it
[07:35] <al__> hey so whats the command again to list running processes sorted by highest use proc?
[07:35] <Karantin> hi all) i have deleted a top panel at gnome, then restore, now i cannt add a applet network manager to it,  can anybody help with it?
[07:35] <joebodo> knoppix, building ?
[07:35] <carpediem> al__ top
[07:35] <joebodo> al__, ps auxxxx
[07:35] <joebodo> al__, oops - that's not in order
[07:36] <knoppix> yea, intel i7 cpu, evga x58 mobo xfx geforce 7950 gx2 vilociraptor 300gig
[07:37] <free_loader> prince_jammys : and how do you know the folders/files they have access to and what kind of access(permissions) they have ?
[07:37] <prince_jammys> free_loader: to know the files/directories, i assume you'd have to scan the entire filesystem.
[07:37] <joebodo> knoppix, have you determined if your bios is the latest version - even if it's new, it might not have the latest
[07:37] <knoppix> said it might be a bent pin on the socket
[07:37] <knoppix> I flashed it myself
[07:38] <joebodo> knoppix, k
[07:38] <free_loader> prince_jammys : ls -l gives me information about a particular user and a particular group and the permissions thjey have
[07:38] <free_loader> I want to know
[07:38] <free_loader> all the groups/users and permissions
[07:39] <prince_jammys> i don't understand what you mean by this. permissions vary among files.
[07:39] <knoppix> support guy asked me if I had tried running windows. I wanted to slap him. LOL
[07:40] <free_loader> prince_jammys : for a certain file/folder.. say X, I want to know all the users/groups who have access to it and the permissions they have
[07:40] <al__> ok wil try top - thanks
[07:40] <knoppix> I like htop better. gives you a nice graph
[07:40] <prince_jammys> free_loader: like you said, ls will reveal the permissions and ownership. you may then see what users belong to the group.
[07:41] <knoppix> al__, I like htop better. gives you a nice graph
[07:41] <prince_jammys> free_loader: do you understand ls's output of (for example) rwxr-xr-x ?
[07:41] <kosmic> does the kernel need rebooting to stay `fresh`
[07:41] <kosmic> like windos machines
[07:41] <ewb> kosmic: not usually but it can't hurt
[07:42] <kosmic> can't hurt :)
[07:42] <Karantin> i have deleted a top panel at gnome, then restore, now i cannt add an applet network manager to it,  can anybody help with it?
[07:42] <free_loader> prince_jammys : yes I do, rwx-rw-r = permissions for user, group and others , then comes user and then group followed by file name
[07:42] <cody__> Whoo! Good movie! But imma go to bed. 13 mins till partitioning finishes, so ill finish moving the /home tomorrow "[
[07:42] <cody__> :p*
[07:42] <joebodo> knoppix, really seems to be sata related - maybe poke around in bios and see if you can disable (assuming your not using sata drives)
[07:43] <cody__> Night all
[07:43] <error15> can anyone help me with error 15 after resizing partition
[07:44] <knoppix> burner and hdd are sata
[07:44] <shma> Hi, I am not able to get login scren in my ubuntu....I was able to get it last time I login......but sddenly my applications like open office etc. were not opening.....thant I restarted.....
[07:44] <prince_jammys> free_loader: then you got it :)  with the other info from me/Flannel, you can see exactly who is in the group. the rest you can directly from ls.
[07:44] <shma> I able to do remote login
[07:45] <joebodo> !fsck | shma
[07:45] <joebodo> shma try sudo shutdown -F -r now
[07:45] <free_loader> prince_jammys : not really, oh and is there a way to check the users inside a group? the command groups can only be checked against a username
[07:45] <prince_jammys> free_loader: scroll up, see all my answers.
[07:45] <shma> ubottu: i have done it..
[07:46] <shma> but no result
[07:46] <free_loader> ok
[07:46] <joebodo> !xorg
[07:46] <prince_jammys> free_loader:cat  /etc/group or ''getent group'' will show who belongs to the groups.
[07:46] <Guest65181> i want to install java 1.6 on ubuntu how to do it
[07:46] <shma> ubottu: i have tried it also..:(
[07:47] <m0RrE>  Guest65181 doesn
[07:47] <m0RrE>  Guest65181 doesn't it come with ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[07:47] <m0RrE> extra*
[07:47] <Guest65181> how to find out it
[07:47] <joebodo> Guest65181, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:47] <iceroot> Guest65181: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:48] <joebodo> iceroot, too slow
[07:48] <iceroot> joebodo: yes :(
[07:48] <free_loader> prince_jammys : oops, yes you'd told me already
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> !java
[07:48] <thedancingdeer> anyone knows any good way to install ypops? or is there any other way to have yahoo on any email client?
[07:49] <Guest65181> its says couldnot get
[07:49] <m0RrE> what's the error message?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> thedancingdeer: sure, just configure pop / smtp in your desired client
[07:49] <shma> why am i not getting login screen
[07:49] <joebodo> Guest65181, what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[07:50] <Bennit_GRR> hi
[07:50] <error15>  have grub error 15 , how would i re install my grub or fix the menu.1st : ubuntu 9.04
[07:50] <iceroot> Guest65181: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:50] <Bennit_GRR> how do I disable normal users from getting the 'restart now' popup?
[07:50] <m0RrE> error15: boot with livecd and reisntall grub
[07:50] <thedancingdeer> ActionParsnip: but i'm on a free account! the above techniq requires a y!mail plus upgrade! i certainly do not want that! :P
[07:50] <joebodo> !grub | error15
[07:51] <Guest65181> i did update am using ubuntu 9.04
[07:51] <joebodo> Guest65181, the command mentioned should work -
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> thedancingdeer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-655476.html
[07:52] <pshr_> any software to convert image formats from bulk of other format ?
[07:52] <Vicfred> what package do i have to install to get libc man pages?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: mogrify or imagemagick are the balls at that
[07:52] <Guest65181> ya its asked for admin password but says couldnot get lock
[07:52] <pshr_> thanks ActionParsnip
[07:52] <jcarter> I just updated Ubuntu in the 9.04 release. I now find that none of my applications have the ability to resize or move the window. There is no border around the window. Some windows are actually positioned over the menu bar at the top making it impossible to select another application or whatever.
[07:52] <jcarter> Anyone else have this problem? Or is there a preference that I need to set to get the application frame back?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: install it then read: man convert    go nuts
[07:53] <joebodo> Guest65181, you need to exit any package management tools
[07:53] <shma> I am not able to get login screen in ubuntu, but able to do remote login......i have tried to restart gdm.....but it didn't work
[07:53] <nic1> guys can anyone give me a good link explaining how i can patch a .diff.gz file to a package on ubuntu?
[07:53] <Balsaq> my 2 week old ubun install is getting slower tonight, sticking , driving me nutz
[07:53] <pshr_> ^_^ thanks...
[07:53] <daya> is netboot via usb is working on 9.04
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> jcarter: you can use alt to drag a window from anywhere
[07:53] <Guest65181> what is it mean
[07:53] <Guest65181> am not running any package management tool
[07:54] <jcarter> I should mention that I am using Ubuntu inside Virtualbox on a Mac.
[07:54] <pshr_> ActionParsnip, which one is good mogrify or imagemagick i just need to convert the file formats ..no other fancy stuff
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> jcarter: irrelevant
[07:54] <nic1> ActionParsnip, can anyone give me a good link explaining how i can patch a .diff.gz file to a package on ubuntu?
[07:54] <joebodo> Guest65181, like add remove software, synaptic package manager, update manager
[07:54] <shma> !help
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: imagemagick then: convert input.jpeg output.gif   for example
[07:54] <jack87_> hi
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: its that easy
[07:55] <jack87_> how is everyone
[07:55] <shma> !loginscreen
[07:55] <Balsaq> seems like my 2 weel old ubun install has slowed to a crawl...is sticking now when i type the words driving me nutz
[07:55] <shma> !gnome
[07:55] <nic1> hey how to patch ya?
[07:55] <mrmowgli> hey how do you get a command line install from the regular 9.04 install disk?
[07:55] <jack87_> i need a little bit of help on dual screen with netbook
[07:55] <Guest65181> no at all
[07:55] <joebodo> shma possibly try control-alt-F1 and see if there are any errors showing
[07:55] <Guest65181> can i manually download it and then install ?
[07:56] <Fx> ohai!
[07:56] <indus> ActionParsnip: hello
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> hi indus
[07:56] <joebodo> Guest65181, the error you are getting is due to another package management tool running - i suggest a reboot possibly, then trying that command line again
[07:56] <shma> joebodo: it shows some fatal server error..when I do xstart in terminal(ctrl+alt+F1)...
[07:57] <nic1> can anyone tell me how to apply a patch?
[07:58] <joebodo> shma possibly try xinit - then when the x window shows up, type in gnome-session (if your using gnome)
[07:58] <toefur> when i try to run vbox i get a error
[07:58] <toefur> Could not load the settings file '/home/toefur/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml'.
[07:58] <toefur> Cannot convert settings from version '1.7-linux'.
[07:58] <toefur> The source version is not supported.
[07:58] <jack87_> i am unable to get full resolution on second monitor on the netbook
[07:58] <FloodBot3> toefur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <jack87_> any ideas why.. is there an issue with the intel graphics?
[07:59] <toefur> didnt mean to flood
[07:59] <shma> joebodo: I try this
[07:59] <toefur> !virtualbox
[07:59] <joebodo> jack87_, i had a similar error that was resolved by adding the refresh rates into my xorg.conf - it was not the easiest problem to resolve
[08:00] <DJ-Nomad> anyone familiar with amarok?
[08:01] <DJ-Nomad> I am wondering how you can make it follow the now playing song in the playlist
[08:01] <joebodo> jack87_, i googled "edid" with my monitor model number to find the values
[08:01] <joebodo> jack87_, and make sure you back up your xorg.conf before applying any changes - it's very picky
[08:01] <indus> hello, any idea how to get live cd to work on amd 690 g board
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | indus
[08:02] <jack87_> joebodo: how do i back it uo?
[08:02] <jack87_> up*
[08:02] <MrSchmo> anyone getting issue with using checkgmail cannot login to gmail account?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> indus: try disabling unnecessary hardware in bios like sound and lan
[08:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: ya i know all that, it doesnt work
[08:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: what happens is, live cd shows boot menu, then reads HDD thinking it is cd rom drive
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> indus: got the latest bios?
[08:03] <joebodo> jack87_, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~
[08:03] <indus> ActionParsnip: well,yeah
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> indus: set bios to failsafe defaults, kill sound and lan
[08:03] <DJ-Nomad> indus temp umplug hdd?
[08:03] <indus> ActionParsnip: works in windows
[08:03] <Guest82568> when install java on ubuntu 9 its says package missing
[08:03] <jack87_> joebodo: i installed xrog but i can not find it anywhere in my settings
[08:03] <m0RrE> Guest82568: you could install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> indus: and usb too, unless you are installing from it
[08:03] <indus> DJ-Nomad: it still wont see cd rom drive, HDD light stays on
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> indus: have you checked your ram health
[08:04] <DJ-Nomad> indus do you have a diff cd drive to try ?
[08:04] <joebodo> jack87_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229072
[08:04] <indus> ActionParsnip: DJ-Nomad the usb is the only way iam able to install ubuntu ever since intrepid
[08:04] <koolhead> toefur: r u using jaunty
[08:04] <indus> DJ-Nomad: of course not
[08:04] <koolhead> ?
[08:04] <koolhead> hey indus
[08:04] <jack87_> joebodo: thank you by the way i appreciate your help
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> indus: do other distros work ok?
[08:04] <indus> DJ-Nomad: its a bug from amd 690 g
[08:04] <indus> ActionParsnip: windows works great :)
[08:04] <DJ-Nomad> indus,you should install via flashdrive..there I got that one figured out lol jk
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !bug > jcarter
[08:04] <Guest82568> what u mean by ?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> indus: windows isnt a distro of linux is it
[08:04] <indus> DJ-Nomad: ya thats what i do
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> indus: could try an older release, or knoppix for example
[08:05] <indus> ActionParsnip: there is a fix upstream in kernel which fixes it it seams
[08:05] <indus> ActionParsnip: if i can modify boot options, i can make kernel see cd rom , tried once with intrepid
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> indus: try karmic daily then :)
[08:06] <Guest82568> when i installing using terminal its appear java agreement its cannot do ok anyting  what should i do
[08:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: latest karmic
[08:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: wait hold on
[08:06] <DJ-Nomad> I am likeing amarok nightly
[08:06] <joebodo> jack87_, this is an example of what you need to provide: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292941/
[08:06] <DJ-Nomad> hehe sorry the daily reminded me of that
[08:07] <jack87_> joebodo: when i did edid search on google i found nothing
[08:07] <joebodo> jack87_, what monitor / model ?
[08:07] <nic1> hey anyone here ever installed confuse package on ubuntu??
[08:08] <Guest82568> this is very funny thing, on window java can install very easily but on ubuntu 9 thousands problems what can i do now, How i install java 1.6 on ubuntu
[08:08] <joebodo> !java
[08:08] <jack87_> aoc 919swal
[08:08] <jack87_> joebodo: aoc 919swal
[08:09] <indus> ActionParsnip: asus support sucks
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> indus: my asus pundit works sweeeeeet
[08:10] <joebodo> jack87_, yes - nothing on google - maybe the user manual ?
[08:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: their driver page is full of poor english
[08:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: they are way behind gigabyte for support
[08:10] <jack87_> what info am i looking for joebodo?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> indus: depends on the product you buy, should have checked support before purchasing
[08:10] <joebodo> jack87_, horizontal and vertical refresh
[08:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: some new athlon x2 has come out and asus has no official support for my board , while same ones on gigabyte is updated
[08:11] <indus> ActionParsnip: iam talking about upgrading
[08:11] <jack87_> joebodo: i have same monitor on my other laptop running just fine with a nvidia video card
[08:11] <joebodo> jack87_, something like this: HorizSync       31.5 - 79.0
[08:11] <indus> the 690 g chipset boards
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> indus: still, check what works instead of whats cheapest or even fastest, less heartache then
[08:11] <indus> and their website is slow as hell
[08:11] <joebodo> jack87_, is it ubuntu also ?
[08:11] <jack87_> if i "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" on that will i be able to find the info
[08:12] <jack87_> yes ubuntu as well
[08:12] <joebodo> jack87_, i think it might have that info -
[08:12] <indus> ActionParsnip: amd made the new athlons x2 for this kind of boards, it works but bios says unknown processor, gigabyte is very innovative for this, has updated bios for this
[08:12] <indus> ActionParsnip: my board is only 2 year old
[08:12] <indus> nvm
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> indus: then buy a gigabyte board if you think they are so great
[08:13] <LSD|Ninja> The 600-series chipsets suck, you want a 780G at the very least.
[08:13] <indus> ActionParsnip: ya next upgrade is that one
[08:13] <joebodo> what's the concensus on ABIT ?
[08:13] <LSD|Ninja> joebodo: dead and buried last I heard
[08:13] <ISI> ola
[08:13] <ISI> coira gay
[08:13] <mazinguer-z> wahahahha
[08:14] <mazinguer-z> por que no te callas?
[08:14] <mazinguer-z> hacemos una orgia?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> indus: i check the hcl and online forums for what works 100% out of the box, and buy that. I have never had to install a single driver as the kernel in the distro on the system or the modules on the install cd always support what i buy
[08:15] <indus> ActionParsnip: your point is different to what iam saying
[08:15] <indus> ActionParsnip: it worked 100 percent before, but later it didnt
[08:16] <LSD|Ninja> The only thing the 690G has going for it in this context is that its X1250 graphics core is supported by the open source radeon driver, the 2000-derived cores in the 7xxG chipset still isn't yet.
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> indus: so what changed in between?
[08:16] <knoppix> joebodo, Sata mode= IDE, or AHCI?
[08:16] <indus> ActionParsnip: i was just talking about manufacturers in general, here it complaisn about bios bug
[08:16] <jack87_> joebodo: it is empty on the other computer.. other computer uses nvidia x server
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> indus: could try an older bios maybe
[08:17] <indus> ActionParsnip: ya i think you are right, maybe
[08:17] <indus> ActionParsnip: there was a good old bios which worked fine
[08:17] <indus> ActionParsnip: ill do that today later and update you,
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> coolio
[08:17] <indus> ActionParsnip: do watch out for M2A VM board questions, i would be glad to hear
[08:17] <nic1> hi guys, sorry for bothering with basic questions, to patch i have to run patch -pnum .diff.gz file
[08:18] <jack87_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229072
[08:18] <nic1> what is num in that command?
[08:18] <joebodo> knoppix, yeah- good question
[08:18] <petrescs> list
[08:18] <Sagan> Hello ubuntu's users
[08:18] <joebodo> knoppix, knoppix maybe start with ahci
[08:18] <indus> ActionParsnip: i kinda forgot the fix i tried a year ago
[08:19] <jack87_> joebodo: where do you think the info would be kept on this other monitor since its not in the xorg config
[08:19] <Guest82568> any thing not working, cannot install java 1.6 on ubuntu, anybody know how to do
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> nic1: If the header is that of a context diff, patch takes the old and new file names in the header. A name is ignored if it does not have enough slashes to satisfy the -pnum or --strip=num option. The name /dev/null is also ignored.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> nic1: http://linux.die.net/man/1/patch may help
[08:20] <jack87_> joebodo: i found it :).... so what should i change on the netbook
[08:20] <LSD|Ninja> indus: What sort of Athlon x2 are you dealing with, the older 65nm variety or the new 45n ones?
[08:20] <jack87> Section "Monitor"
[08:20] <jack87>     Identifier     "Monitor0"
[08:20] <jack87>     VendorName     "Unknown"
[08:20] <jack87>     ModelName      "AOC 919Swa1"
[08:20] <jack87>     HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
[08:20] <FloodBot3> jack87: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <jack87>     VertRefresh     50.0 - 76.0
[08:20] <joebodo> jack87, it should look something like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/292941/
[08:20] <indus> LSD|Ninja: newer , was planning to drop one into my board
[08:20] <joebodo> jack87, it should look something like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/292941/
[08:20] <indus> LSD|Ninja: works fine , but asus wont update the bios page
[08:20] <indus> LSD|Ninja: maybe i write to them
[08:21] <joebodo> jack87, i think the important part is just the horz and vert refresh
[08:21] <indus> LSD|Ninja: other than a newer graphics core, its jsut the same
[08:21] <jack87_> i see it but i am not sure what to replace on my other xorg file i have now.. if i paste bin it can you help
[08:21] <indus> LSD|Ninja: i also want to drop a new 4850 on the pci e slot
[08:21] <joebodo> jack87, so basically, backup your xorg.conf, add that info via sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:21] <indus> lets see
[08:21] <LSD|Ninja> indus: You're better off scraping some money together and dropping around USD$80 on a 785G board. The 600-series chipsets, the SB600 south bridge in particular, is absolute garbage
[08:21] <Guest82568> anybody know how to install java on ubutu 9, all primary command and methods are failled
[08:21] <knoppix> oh, got a new one EXT-fs : sda1 could not mount because of unsupported opional features 240
[08:21] <joebodo> jack87 then restart X by alt-sysreq k
[08:22] <indus> LSD|Ninja: whats the issue with sb600?
[08:22] <knoppix> in adittion to the others. now instead of ata2 its ata8
[08:22] <joebodo> jack87, if your x doesnt start, hit control-alt-F1 for a new terminal and either restore your xorg.conf or make additional changes
[08:23] <jack87_> joebodo: http://pastebin.com/m6081e308
[08:23] <Guest82568> You all fuckoo
[08:23] <ShishKabab> Hi. Is there a guide somewhere I can send to a Linux newbie explaining the basics of the command line (e.g. permissions and how to change them)?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest82568: make sure you symlink the .so file to your plugins directory
[08:23] <joebodo> jack87, yeah - it's not going to be easy -
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> ShishKabab: man chmod   and    man chown
[08:24] <jack87_> joebodo: ok we will see thanks
[08:24] <joebodo> jack87, you might want to find a good xorg.conf to reference on google - maybe search for "netbook second monitor xorg.conf"
[08:24] <Sagan> ShishKabab: http://www.arachnoid.com/linux/shell_programming.html ^_^ hope this helps
[08:24] <Sagan> ShishKabab: Sorry I send you the wrong one.
[08:25] <indus> LSD|Ninja: also whats the diff between 780g and 785 g, which is better
[08:25] <ChaoZero> Hi everyone!
[08:25] <Sagan> indus: 785, but there's no high lvl of difference when it comes to same driver usage.
[08:25] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[08:25] <indus> Sagan: why is it better? i thought 780 g was newer even though number says otherwwise
[08:26] <jack87> joebodo: there is three sections i am not sure which one to replace
[08:26] <MenZa> gladio70: /j #ubuntu-it
[08:26] <ChaoZero> I've got a short (but not googleable) question.... what's de s90reboot s-for in rc3?
[08:26] <mcmlxxi> there was a network outage, and when I came to work this morning, my network drive looked like this. how can I fix it? ??????????  ? ?       ?         ?                ? t
[08:26] <LSD|Ninja> indus: They're essentially the same except the 785G has an uprated graphics core (AMD call it a "4200" but it's the same basic 2400XT-derived core as the the 780 only with a higher default clock speed) and the SB710 south bridge. The SB710 is slightly better than the 700, but both are light years ahead of the 600
[08:26] <infidel2s> how can i make it so that vim locks the screen automatically after 5 min of inactivity?
[08:26] <mcmlxxi> it is accessible on windows
[08:27] <zaggynl> grr
[08:27] <ShishKabab> Sagan: This one is already very useful. Could you send me the 'right' one too?
[08:27] <joebodo> is LSD|Ninja a hardware bot ?
[08:27] <indus> LSD|Ninja: yes i would like to know about the sb600 . why is it bad? i might have an answeer to a very old problem
[08:27] <zaggynl> A laptop without mechanical volume control. And I can't mute/turn down the volume on the ubuntu logon screen
[08:27] <Sagan> ShishKabab: yeah I will, Im looking in my library directory for you. Hang on.
[08:28] <LSD|Ninja> indus: In a nutshell: woeful peripheral (USB, SATA, PCIe) performance. It's also not the most stable thing in the world either.
[08:28] <nic1> how to unzip a .diff.gz file?
[08:29] <jack87> http://pastebin.com/m266e7b66
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> nic1: gunzip <file>
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> nic1: mich be: gunzip -d <file>
[08:29] <Sagan> ShishKabab: here's an online version, it's been around for a while.
[08:30] <Sagan> ShishKabab : http://linuxcommand.gds.tuwien.ac.at/index.php
[08:30] <Sagan> ShishKabab: Tell them, Linux is powerful ^^
[08:31] <samuel>  /join #kde-devel
[08:32] <ShishKabab> Sagan: He already sees the advantages and is trying to switch. He currently has problems with a wireless card and will need to configure Apache (for PHP development).
[08:32] <jack87> joebodo: how did you say to restart?
[08:32] <jack87> alt+sysrq?
[08:32] <joebodo> jack87, alt-sysreq k
[08:33] <achiang> hello, i thought that gnome-keyring was supposed to hook into gdm somehow, such that i would not need to type in my ssh passphrase once i log into the machine, and yet i get prompted every time while at a prompt
[08:33] <ShishKabab> Sagan: But thanks. This'll get him started nicely.
[08:33] <jack87> crossing fingers
[08:33] <achiang> this is on a fresh jaunty install if that makes a difference...
[08:33] <joebodo> jack87, good luck -
[08:33] <Sagan> ShishKabab: ^^ kernel is heart of it all. Try to find what device he use.
[08:34] <joebodo> !ssh
[08:34] <joebodo> !keyring
[08:34] <joebodo> !seamonkey
[08:34] <jack87> joebodo: ... hum didnt seem to have made any difference...
[08:35] <indus> ActionParsnip: check this
[08:35] <glick> does anyone know how to enable bootbooster on my eeepc
[08:35] <glick> ?
[08:35] <joebodo> jack87, you dont have any additional screen rez to choose from ?
[08:35] <ShishKabab> Sagan: It's some kind of exotic Dutch (KPN Dongel) device. I am going to redirect him here because I'm not in a position in which I easily help him.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> indus: check what?
[08:36] <Sagan> ShishKabab: oh dear, np xD
[08:36] <joebodo> !seahorse
[08:36] <indus> ActionParsnip: its my fix , i ll add it to my launchpad bug page
[08:36] <jack87> nope none joebodo... hum.. im giong to try more editing.. how do i delete lines via vi?
[08:36] <switzch> I recently installed windows 7, which killed grub as usual. However, this time around, my linux partition /dev/sda5 is showing up as a "Linux swap / Solaris" partition...any idea what might be the problem? I can't mount it.
[08:36] <joebodo> jack87, dd to delete the line your on
[08:36] <switzch> it's the right size (44G)
[08:37] <joebodo> jack87, you can do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - that's an easier editor
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> indus: i dont see any url pasted by you..?
[08:37] <indus> ActionParsnip:  yikes http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/6/14/2122314
[08:37] <achiang> joebodo: hm, i think the problem might be that i just dropped in my old id_rsa from another machine without dropping in id_rsa.pub
[08:37] <achiang> joebodo: yup, that was it
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> indus: looks perfect
[08:38]  * achiang logs out to check
[08:38] <jack87> joebodo: perhaps i need to change a different section? kind of nervous
[08:38] <indus> ActionParsnip:  :) ya but iam taking your suggesstion and using an older bios
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> indus: i wont be buying one of those..mmm never
[08:39] <joebodo> jack87, this might help - its for eee, but all seem to be generic: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:external_monitor
[08:39] <ShishKabab> Sagan: He'll manage. He's a smart guy. Anyway, thanks for the help!
[08:39] <Sagan> ShishKabab: we're human after all :)
[08:39] <indus> ActionParsnip: btw, i have some news for you, remember the plug and play option in bios ? setting it to yes wouldnt boot windows
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> indus: weird, the board sounds like a real white elephant to me
[08:39] <indus> ActionParsnip: that chipset is great for gaming , it is very good
[08:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: way better than nv 6150 i had
[08:40] <jony123> Can someone give me a good program for adding files to an ipod (podcast,videos,music)
[08:40] <achiang> just to follow up, yes, seahorse requires both your public and private ssh keys; it can then act as an ssh-agent
[08:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: no all new stuff will have bugs
[08:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: its impressive when it was launched
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> i havent gamed since neverwinter nights was released, except frets on fire to pass the time while GF gets ready
[08:40] <jack87> thank you joebodo i will look into that
[08:40] <Appiah> jony123: rythmbox
[08:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: call of duty worked so good on the igp
[08:40] <mcmlxxi> !info fsck.cifs
[08:40] <Appiah> rhythmbox*
[08:40] <jony123> Appiah: Can that add videos and podcasts?
[08:41] <Appiah> videos?
[08:41] <Appiah> hmm
[08:41] <Appiah> never tried
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. fscking a remote filesystem.. would be.. interesting.
[08:41] <Appiah> podcasts , I think
[08:41] <Appiah> its installed by default in ubuntu so just try
[08:42] <tekonivel> how do i know which java runtime environment i have installed? "dpkg -S $(which java)" doesn't know
[08:42] <reeniginEesreveR> can i disable cronjob's output email ?
[08:42] <Appiah> jony123: some googling says yes to podcasts
[08:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: if you notice, the patch is from amd guy, they are good with open stuff
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: i dont get excited by gaming boards, i like looking at lower power consumption desktops like linutop
[08:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes this is also very low power
[08:43] <glick> hey question, im installing ubuntu nbr
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: not 6W for the whole system its not
[08:43] <nikolam> hello. http://packages.ubuntu.com does not work again..
[08:43] <glick> my disk had 4 partitions
[08:43] <al__> hmmm, tried badblocks on this drive now 3 times, each time it hangs at the same point???
[08:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: ya cos the igp takes a little more
[08:43] <tekonivel> java- version tells me it's java hotspot (tm) client vm. which packages does that come from?
[08:43] <glick> labeled sda1, sda2. sda3 and sda4
[08:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: but it had some network card issues
[08:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: no good for servers i heard
[08:43] <al__> hey ActionParsnip
[08:43] <glick> when i delete sda2 and sda3, will sda4 automatically become sda2?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: exactly, gaming boards have been done forever, low power is a new thing and people are trying to get lower and lower power consumption
[08:43] <Appiah> glick: no
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> al__: howdy
[08:44] <glick> how do i change it?
[08:44] <al__> ActionParsnip: you got any ideas?
[08:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: oh no , mine is not a gaming board , its vm series, very low cost and stripped down
[08:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: a low cost gameing option for all
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> al__: what about?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> glick:  short answer. you dont.
[08:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: thats why i said the 690 g waas introduced with that purpose
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> indus: yes but it pulls more than a lot of power, http://www.fit-pc.com/fit-pc1/ is pretty cool too
[08:45] <jack87> joebodo: anything that is section "screen" i would image is referring to the laptop screen?
[08:45] <LSD|Ninja> indus: the 7xxG chipsets are better in every conceivable way except that their IGPs cores don't yet work with open source drives in Linux :/
[08:46] <al__> ActionParsnip: badblocks, trying it on a drive, always hangs at the same point. Drive is unmounted....
[08:46] <indus> LSD|Ninja: ya iam getting one
[08:46] <switzch> my main linux partition is now showing up as a 40G swap partition. Other than panicking, what should I do?
[08:46] <indus> LSD|Ninja: in a few months
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> al__: fsck the drive in live enviroment
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> indus: 6W for a desktop PC, thats pretty special
[08:46] <joebodo> jack87, no - but the monitor section is what your interested in
[08:46] <toefur> ok i got virtual box to work but its the 3.0.8 non-free
[08:47] <toefur> can i install the ose on the same host and use the vdi that i got running with the 3.0.8
[08:48] <indus> ActionParsnip: 6 w is low isnt it
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> toefur: i'd say yes but i'd ask in #vbox to clarify
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> indus: less than a lightbulb
[08:48] <nic1> hey i am trying to download a package, it tells /tmp/confuse_2.6.orig.tar.gz could not be saved, because you cannot change the contents of that folder.        Change the folder properties and try again, or try saving in a different location.
[08:48] <nic1> any idea about the error i am getting?
[08:48] <switzch> one more thing: the partition is showing up as mounted - I tried to force mount it as ext3 but mount is telling me that it's already mounted (which it isn't)
[08:48] <LSD|Ninja> indus: heh, in a few months the Clarkdale Intels will be out and, apart from graphics performance, will be kicking the AMD x2s up and down the court. Anyway, when looking at 700-series IGP boards, go for one with sideport memory as they let you avoide taking too much system RAM for the graphics.
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> indus: i find that stuff more interesting than systems with 16 CPUs and 2tb RAM
[08:49] <indus> LSD|Ninja: iam going for dedicated graphics
[08:49] <jack87> how would i restore my back up? joebodo
[08:49] <indus> LSD|Ninja: also iam pro amd, like to help thema bit :)
[08:49] <indus> LSD|Ninja: clarkdale? what are those?
[08:50] <al__> ActionParsnip: its a NTFS drive
[08:50] <indus> LSD|Ninja: i mean specs
[08:50] <joebodo> jack87, sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> al__: install ntfsprogs   then you can fsck it
[08:51] <indus> LSD|Ninja: i always suspectedthe sb600 to have network problems, but i cant put a finger on it
[08:52] <LSD|Ninja> indus: lol, the only way you can help AMD at this point is by donating USD$3 billion. They're going to go bankrupt, it's inevitable. Hopefully the new owners will make something worthwhile out of the remains. Anyway, Clarkdale is the dual core Nehalem variant with the integrated GMA graphics core.
[08:53] <indus> LSD|Ninja: whats so funny about some company going bankrupt?
[08:53] <indus> LSD|Ninja: anyways off topic
[08:54] <joebodo> jack87, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1272749&page=2 another to look at...
[08:55] <LSD|Ninja> indus: What's funny is the attitude that it's somehow possible to help a company that's up to their eyballs in debt and haemorraging cash by buying a few of their products at retail
[08:55] <jack87> thanks again
[08:55] <_MrsApple_> my dvd drive isn't showing up anymore
[08:56] <iceroot> can jaunty by default (standard installation) use an umts-stick with the network-manager? i cant use apt-get install because i dont have access to the wan but i am getting an umts-stick the next days
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> _MrsApple_: try:  sudo lshw -C disk | less
[08:56] <leaf-sheep> Anybody using gnome-colors know how I can toggle on colors?
[08:56] <TxHawks> Hi, Wondering if someone could help. I'm on a laptop and want to run a cron job that will sync my files to the server using unison. I only want this to run when I'm online. I connect to the net through different interfaces at different time (eth, wifi, mobile broadband). Any idea on how something like this can be set up? Thanks
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> !cron | TxHawks
[08:57] <_MrsApple_> ActionParsnip, it's pulling up my hdd's
[08:57] <TxHawks> Iceroot: works for me
[08:57] <MenZa> TxHawks: I guess you could run a script which pings google.com or similar, then if it gets a response, sync.
[08:57] <jack87> joebodo: i dunno what i did because i killed the display bad for both screens
[08:57] <joebodo> jack87, this one might be the best one - it has step by step : http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/10/mailbag.html
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> _MrsApple_: does you optical drive not show? scroll up and down with cursors
[08:58] <TxHawks> iceroot, but check that the stick is linux competible
[08:58] <joebodo> jack87, that was bound to happen :)
[08:58] <lbt> I've installed ubuntu via preseed- works fine. Now I need to get the nvidia drivers working to get twinview+3D up. Sadly after using a preseed install the gui driver tool hangs. Eventually it returns claiming it tried to restart the backend. But to no avail
[08:58] <indus> LSD|Ninja: ill give youa reply to that in pm if you so wish
[08:58] <_MrsApple_> yeah it's not showing
[08:58] <jack87> joebodo: but i think after restoring its going to work i see more res options
[08:58] <TxHawks> MenZa, thanks
[08:58] <joebodo> jack87, nice...
[08:58] <jack87> joebodo: cant get them to take effect just yet but its one step closer right
[08:58] <MenZa> TxHawks: np
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> lbt: sudo apt-get instal nvidia-glx-180
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> _MrsApple_: does it show in bios?
[08:58] <LSD|Ninja> indus: go right ahead
[08:58] <joebodo> jack87, take a look at that last link - it might be helpful
[08:58] <_MrsApple_> yeha
[08:59] <_MrsApple_> *yeah
[08:59] <lbt> ActionParsnip: mmm, tried that initialy in the preseed
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> _MrsApple_: ok then i suggest you run:  dmesg | less
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> _MrsApple_: see if the kernel detects it at boot
[09:00] <iceroot> TxHawks: i hope. dont know the stick-name. maybe someone is using the "1und1" umts-stick here with jaunty :)
[09:00] <jack87> joebodo: thats the res i want in the last linke
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> lbt: im not familiar with "preseed"
[09:00] <Sagan>  ahh the power of compiz-fusion ^^ multiple cubes, more cubes.. and a world of cosmic cubes..
[09:00] <TxHawks> iceroot, google it
[09:00] <lbt> ActionParsnip: debian-installer mechanism to answer questions on install and select packages
[09:01] <xterm__> I have installed the pulsadio desklet and it workes fine. But it is very hard to right cklick on it to get to the settings. Is there anoter way to reach a desklets settings?
[09:01] <Sagan> fascinating!
[09:01] <lbt> ok, apt-get-ed it ... will take another look... :)
[09:01] <jack87> joebodo: shit the res i wanted disapeared from the list i was so close
[09:01] <_MrApple_> ActionParsnip, what specifically am I looking for?
[09:01] <al__> ActionParsnip: fsck looks complicated. try it with -r?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> _MrApple_: anything relating to the drive
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> al__: theres a man page as well as stuff online
[09:02] <al__> ActionParsnip: yes! I looked at it thats how I know its complicated:-)
[09:02] <iceroot> TxHawks: i am at work, cant use http :(
[09:02] <sprink> when using aptitude via ssh and putty. I sometimes get weird symbols in the curses UI. Could this be because of incorrect charmap/encoding?
[09:02] <_MrApple_> ActionParsnip, I believe I found something retaining to the drive
[09:02] <lbt> Nope, the gui claims it's nopt installed and still hangs when I click Activate
[09:03] <al__> ActionParsnip: the drive has no important data on it, just for experimenting
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> _MrApple_: then you may need boot options to get it visible
[09:03] <Sagan> iceroot: use links http://www.. xD...
[09:03] <lbt> dpkg-query says:  ii  nvidia-glx-180            180.44-0ubuntu1           NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[09:04] <_MrApple_> ActionParsnip, when I tell the drive to mount via the Disc Mounter on my userbar it kicks back the error message "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist"
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> _MrApple_: do you have any device in /dev that start with cd
[09:05] <Nimptsch> is there a way I can hide the world map in gnome clock but keep the location clocks?
[09:05] <_MrApple_> nope
[09:05] <iceroot> Sagan: as i said, i cant use http at work. we arent allow to surf the web
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> lbt: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html
[09:05] <iceroot> Sagan: its all logged
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> _MrApple_: id check bios settings are ok, then try some bootoptions
[09:06] <Sagan> iceroot: xD ok hm.. this where linux bash command comes in handy.. hm..
[09:06] <Sagan> iceroot: not being able to surf the web is like not being able to fly , freedom is what us linux user is about.
[09:07] <iceroot> Sagan: ? can you tell me what is the difference betwenn using ff on windows, ff on linux or any other client like lynx? the http-traffic is logged. so there is no way to use http from work
[09:08] <MenZa> iceroot: Do you have a computer at home running Linux?
[09:08] <Nimptsch> well just wait til you get home I'm sure that's better than getting fired
[09:08] <iceroot> MenZa: yes but no wan (as i told that is my problem)
[09:09] <MenZa> iceroot: ah. I didn't read your question, only your last comment. I was going to suggest tunneling your access through SSH.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Sagan: could ssh to your home PC then launch your browser using X forwarding (assuming you can install an x server on the client (if it doesnt have one)
[09:09] <iceroot> Nimptsch: i have no wan at home but in the next days i will get an umts-stick and my question was if umts is running with network-manager by defasult without using apt-get install
[09:10] <Nimptsch> oh i have no idea about that stuff
[09:10] <Sagan> iceroot: if it's log, and you're using a linux operating system, you still get logged. even using Lynx, Im wondering what sort of server it is..
[09:10] <iceroot> Sagan: squid
[09:11] <Sagan> Sagan: hehe at least they didn't use SquidGuard, I"ll google to see if there's a hack :)
[09:11] <Sagan> ops Im talking to myself
[09:11] <Sagan> iceroot: I"ll check if there's a way around Squid :) ^^
[09:11] <purplebase> silly question:  how do i look at the root folder in the file browser?
[09:12] <iceroot> Sagan: do you think i will use a hack at work?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> purplebase: gksudo nautilus     next question is...why?
[09:12] <iceroot> Sagan: also this is getting offtpoic but thanks for your help
[09:12] <Sagan> iceroot: sure, you plug the program into a usb, plug usb into machine, auto run it with some bash script, hehe...im thinking how this may work.
[09:13] <Sagan> iceroot: yeah just a thought, always keep trying to explore the unexploreable xD
[09:13] <purplebase> ActionParsnip, looks like kino saved a file there and i want to get it out.
[09:13] <iceroot> Sagan: but not at work
[09:13] <mrmowgli> ok, how do I install the equivelent of kubuntu from an existing ubuntu install?
[09:13] <mrmowgli> Is there a meta package?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> mrmowgli:  install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> purplebase: you can use: sudo -i and cp it at cli too, weird how kino has access to the folder too, the app should e runing as you
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> and proberlly kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:13] <Neurolysis> Hey guys, getting a really weird thing with the latest 9.04... I have just burnt the iso to a CD, and it booted fine, I managed to get through the bit where you choose the language fine, but when I go to press enter on /any/ of the options (like 'install ubuntu, check disk for defects), nothing happens at all. Any ideas?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: did you run the CD verifier? Did you MD5 check the ISO?
[09:14] <mrmowgli> Dr_Willis: thx
[09:14] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: both.
[09:14] <Neurolysis> sorry, not the former
[09:14] <Neurolysis> but i have checked the md5
[09:14] <jack87> joebodo: we are golden! thanks for your help
[09:14] <purplebase> ActionParsnip, it should not be running as root, but i needed to do that so i would capture a DV file from a camara...what a pain!!
[09:14] <Neurolysis> read it too quickly.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: did you burn the CD very SLOWLY?
[09:14] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: yes. 2x.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> purplebase: i'd log that as a bug
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: good
[09:15] <jack87> joebodo: last few links kinda made me screw it up over and over lol... but in the end my attempts to fixing my screw up led to the success :) i wish i knew what i did so i could post it for others
[09:15] <joebodo> jack87, excellent
[09:15] <joebodo> jack87, yeah - i had the exact same experience
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: try setting bios to failsafe defualts as well as disable uneeded hardware like usb, sound and lan (if you can)
[09:16] <mrmowgli> Dr_Willis: what's the kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[09:16] <jack87> joebodo: i wonder if it will stick
[09:16] <mrmowgli> mp3 playback etc?
[09:16] <jack87> joebodo: if i reboot and plug monitor in later.. hum..
[09:16] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: got nothing else in. will try failsafe on bios.
[09:16] <purplebase> ActionParsnip, on the webpage where i found the info it said it was not a bug but a security issue and gave me the work-around.  seems weird, but hey, i'm just a boy
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> mrmowgli:  ectra bits you proberly want. mp3/video codecs/java/flash/other things
[09:16] <mrmowgli> Dr_Willis: will do!
[09:18] <jack87> joebodo: ok now that i have that out of the way.. i am excited to learn ubuntu environment. any sugested packages i should install?
[09:18] <lbt> so the gui wasn't working as the user wasn't in 'admin'
[09:19] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: still not working. weird thing is as i say, it still lets me get past the language selection by pressing enter :\
[09:19] <sarmisak> hi all
[09:19] <lbt> now it doesn't habg but neither it nor the apt-get solution works - I get that the nvidia kernel module isn't loaded
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> purplebase: weird, should still be runable as user, they could add permissions for users to access whatever it is needs accessing. Not sure as I dont do that kind of stuff
[09:19] <cab_> purplebase: had similar issues with dv recorder, if i recall changin group in modprobe did the trick http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-784385.html
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: got a usb stick you can install from, that may be better
[09:20] <sarmisak> I am using 64bit ubuntu 9.04, but openoffice 3.1, and I cannot start it. It displays the splash, then dies without any warnings or etc.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: cd ~/; ls -a
[09:20] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: that was my original plan, BIOS doesn't support USB boot
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: rename any .openoffice folders, then rerun
[09:20] <cab_> purplebase: sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: got a FDD?
[09:21] <jack87> joebodo: one thing that is annoying.. it looks like ubuntu desides on which one the main screen is depending on where it is placed in the display panel. i want my second screen to be on the left in this case when ever i do that it auto configures it to be the main
[09:21] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: trying right away.
[09:21] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: no, nothing changed
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> cab_: gksudo for gedit, not sudo
[09:21] <purplebase> ActionParsnip, since i am so very new at 1. linux, 2. videos and 3. anything to do with programming, i guess i don't do that kind of stuff either...but i am stumbling around quite well*grin*
[09:21] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: only an external using USB. BIOS doesn't seem to like USB full stop
[09:21] <joebodo> jack87, not sure - i use nvidia and that sets the primary for me
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: you can boot a special floppy to then kick off a usb stick
[09:21] <dbugger> Hey guys! Can you explain me why after the latest karmic update, every icon has a green tick?
[09:21] <cab_> purplebase: change line: KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="disk" to KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video"
[09:21] <MenZa> !karmic | dbugger
[09:21] <irwan_> tiara
[09:22] <jack87> joebodo: ya the nvidia machine works great... damn intel haha thanks anyway.. i really do appreciate all of your help on getting that going
[09:22] <purplebase> cab_, have no idea what you are talking about but will inform myself asap...right now i am late for work...thx for your help and i will see where it leads me in the future!!
[09:22] <joebodo> jack87, no problem at all
[09:22] <lbt> jack87: man xrandr
[09:22] <cab_> purplebase: kino does not have the rights to firewire interface until you change the group
[09:22] <lbt> look at --right-of
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: could try a reinstall, you may want to delete the new .openoffice* folders and rename then originals back
[09:23] <irwan> hy
[09:23] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: ok, purging and reinstalling
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: if you launch an OOo app from terminal, you will get intelligent output
[09:23] <jack87> lbt i get no manual entry for xradr
[09:24] <Dragon_Balck> ciao
[09:24] <Dragon_Balck> !list
[09:24] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: if you mean like a 98 bootdisk, i tried that, but it seems it doesn't recognise any other drive than it's own
[09:24] <joebodo> jack87, i like skype, deskbar-applet, ubuntu-restricted-extras, guake, prism, songbird, and gparted
[09:24] <Neurolysis> tried A: through Z:, only A: is recognised
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: yes like a 98 bootdisk, but not an ACTUAL 98 boot disk
[09:24] <Neurolysis> well what would you suggest
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[09:25] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: that's my problem, it dies without any warnings, etc. it just dies
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Neurolysis: microsoft stuff is very rigid in config so achieves very little. Linux is very flexible so can do more than nothing (which is a bit more than windows does)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: even if you run it from terminal?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: you should at LEAST get a segfault message
[09:26] <lbt> jack87: xrandr
[09:26] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: yes, no warnings. I even tried stracing it, but nothing much came out
[09:26] <digital-rouge> hello all i have what i hope to be a quick fix problem
[09:26] <digital-rouge> who can help me with an sd card  not mounting?
[09:27] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: I'll give that a shot. Weird thing is mind, it does display 'USB-ZIP' at the boot options as an option when I insert the pendrive, but it simply goes on to try and boot from the HDD regardless of if i select it
[09:27] <jack87> lbt: gave me a list
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: ok in terminial run: oowriter    then use pastebin to provide the output
[09:27] <digital-rouge> hey mr parsnip
[09:27] <sarmisak> ok
[09:27] <digital-rouge> whats up
[09:27] <lbt> "man xrandr" gave you a list?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> digital-rouge: full of cold, wassup
[09:28] <digital-rouge> lol
[09:28] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m32dd92f6
[09:28] <digital-rouge> hey i just reinstalled ubuntu everythign working great but my onboard sd card reader wont mount
[09:28] <digital-rouge> but it reads
[09:28] <digital-rouge> is there a driver?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: well thats just rude :)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: what version do you have installed?
[09:29] <jack87> not xrandr did lbt
[09:29] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: I believe 3.1, and this is the strace output http://pastebin.com/m739f4585
[09:29] <Neurolysis> ActionParsnip: i've just realised, text mode interface is working
[09:29] <Neurolysis> i'll try that
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: is it ok if you actually open a file with it, rather than just lanching the app itself
[09:30] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: I did some java runtime changes for some arduino -avr microcontroller- maybe its because of that, I'll try some more googling
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: oo uses java so you may be right
[09:30] <nic1> hey i have hidden toolbar of the terminal, now i need to get it back. how can i?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sarmisak: i dont use it (too bloated) so this is as much help as I can be
[09:30] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: I thought so, thanks anyway ;)
[09:31] <digital-rouge> k
[09:31] <digital-rouge> why wont my onboared sd card reader mount  it reads its there and all the info
[09:31] <jack87> lbt: i tried man xrandr again and it worked this time how can i choose which monitor is which
[09:31] <nemesis1911> hey guys how do I get my xbox 360 dongle to work in ubuntu 9.04.. ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> nic1: if you press ctrl+v do you get the view menu?
[09:32] <pulse00> hi all. is it  possible to install an ubuntu live system to an usb-stick from a windows system ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> nic1: or cltrl+e for edit, to then move across with cursor
[09:32] <infidel2s> is there a way to automatically launch screen(1) everytime i start a new gnome-terminal?
[09:33] <pshr_> How can i rename all the files in the folder, like adding prefix to every file ? any easy way.. cause i have 500 files to be renamed
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> pulse00: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[09:33] <digital-rouge> action parsnip: leme know when your ready for me
[09:33] <pulse00> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> digital-rouge: sup?
[09:34] <digital-rouge> sd reader cantr mount
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> nic1: sorry its alt+v, not ctrl
[09:34] <infidel2s> nm figured it out
[09:34] <digital-rouge> it reads its there ibut wont mount or open
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> digital-rouge: does the partition show up in: sudo fdisk -l
[09:34] <digital-rouge> 1 sec
[09:34] <digital-rouge> shows up in home
[09:35] <digital-rouge>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:35] <digital-rouge> /dev/sda1   *           1       18662   149902483+  83  Linux
[09:35] <digital-rouge> /dev/sda2           18663       19457     6385837+   5  Extended
[09:35] <digital-rouge> /dev/sda5           18663       19457     6385806   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:35] <digital-rouge> digital-rouge@digital-rouge-laptop:~$
[09:35] <FloodBot3> digital-rouge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <digital-rouge> ok
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> pshr_:   theres various rename tools in the repos. qmv, and some  for prefix/postfix renaming  at the start/end of files
[09:36] <digital-rouge> im assuming that the extended drive is the drive thats the sd?