[12:05] <_Neil> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105953
[12:05] <_Neil> hey guys
[12:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 105953 in Ubuntu "Edgy & Fiesty LiveCD and fresh install hang with graphical corruption at splash screen(nVidia)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[12:05] <_Neil> submitted this, but should I leave package as 'ubuntu' ?
[12:05] <_Neil> is there something more specific i can add?
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #105999 in Ubuntu "Kdeprint upgrade fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105999
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106000 in cdparanoia (main) "unable to listen/rip cd after latest update of cdparanoia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106000
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #105716 in zip (main) "zip crashes when temporary output file exceeds 2GB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105716
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106001 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  cuiterm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106001
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106002 in mythtv (multiverse) "No .desktop is shipped for mythtv-setup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106002
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106003 in foo2zjs (main) "foo2hp filter in Fiesty produces odd screen pattern on Colour Laserjet 1600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106003
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106004 in sylpheed (universe) "Crash when searching" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106004
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106005 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "Xerox WorkCentre Pro C2636 printer -- no driver?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106005
[12:34] <bdmurray> mvo: I verified that sru bug.
[12:34] <mvo> bdmurray: thanks for that! I noticed and uploaded a new version to dapper-updates already
[12:34] <bdmurray> cool, I hadn't checked the bug recently
[12:35] <mvo> its need review from the archive admins first
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106006 in freeradius (universe) "vulnerable to memory exhaustion via malformed Diameter format attributes inside of an EAP-TTLS tunnel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106006
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106008 in Ubuntu "With desktop effects enabled when using gksu system gets grey and only responds to keyboard " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106008
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106007 in Ubuntu "With desktop effects enabled when using gksu system gets grey and only responds to keyboard  (dup-of: 106008)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106007
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106009 in amule (universe) "amulegui crashed when closing the "amulegui" window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106009
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106010 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes frequently with Rhapsody plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106010
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106011 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "initrd: mount of root fails, hda becomes sda (2.6.20-13 to -14)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106011
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106013 in evolution (main) "Evolution Task Sorting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106013
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106012 in mythtv (multiverse) "minor formatting problem in init script" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106012
[12:54] <ubotu> New bug: #105138 in nvidia-settings (restricted) "nvidia-settings wont work with nvidia legacy driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105138
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106014 in Ubuntu "sony vaio fe890 fn key not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106014
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106015 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in savageGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106015
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106016 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "F1 must be reserved for the help page for the current application" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106016
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106017 in Ubuntu "network icon show no connection if on a two system nic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106017
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106018 in rsjog (universe) "Dependencies problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106018
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106019 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager stopped working after 0.6.4-6ubuntu6 update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106019
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106020 in network-manager (main) "Connection to the wired network stopped working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106020
[01:56] <mheily> Hello all.. I have been working to resolve bug # 104332 (segfault in rdesktop) for the past few days and have gotten a simple one-line patch committed upstream. There has been no response from the Ubuntu package maintainer, so I am here to ask if anyone is willing to review the patch and ensure that it is applied to the version in Feisty before the release. Anyone interested?
[01:57] <Fujitsu> bug #104332
[01:57] <ubotu> Malone bug 104332 in rdesktop "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104332
[01:58] <Fujitsu> mheily: THere's no real concept of maintainers in Ubuntu. It's all a group effort.
[01:58] <mheily> oh, sorry, I am a long time Debian user.
[01:58] <Fujitsu> Such a fix is very unlikely to happen for Feisty.
[01:59] <Fujitsu> Only absolutely critical things are happening now.
[02:00] <mheily> This bug is critical in that it prevents Rdesktop from working at all with Windows 2000 servers in 8bpp mode, and with some Windows 2003 server configurations. The problem was caused by changes in Xlib, not due to any changes in rdesktops source code.
[02:01] <mheily> Are their "point" releases of Feisty that might address this bug? For example, Debian releases some major non-security updates in their point releases for stable branches.
[02:01] <mheily> s/their/there
[02:02] <blueyed> There will be feisty-updates, mheily.
[02:02] <Fujitsu> There are stable release updates, but rarely in the Debian sense.
[02:02] <blueyed> ..which is another repo.
[02:02] <Fujitsu> We have feisty-updates and feisty-security, which updates can go into after the appropriate process.
[02:02] <Fujitsu> Point releases are rarely issued, due to the short release cycles.
[02:03] <blueyed> It would probably help to assign the bug IMHO.
[02:04] <voidmage> how many point releases has dapper had?
[02:04] <voidmage> one?
[02:04] <blueyed> none yet?
[02:04] <mheily> All I am saying is that this bug will impact a lot of server admins that rdesktop into various Windows boxen, and there will be a lot of disgruntled people looking for a fix soon. I have been triaging some of the bugs in the BTS and Launchpad, and there is a lot of interest in this issue.
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106021 in Ubuntu "Pictograms for the Samsung X20 laptop don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106021
[02:05] <Fujitsu> voidmage: One, and that's the only one so far.
[02:05] <mheily> If there is anything else I can do to help, just let me know, but I thought this would be a good forum to bring it to your attention. Thanks a lot. - Mark
[02:05] <blueyed> mheily: someone then should bump the Importance of the bug at least. I cannot, sorry.
[02:05] <Fujitsu> mheily: You'll need to talk to somebody in #ubuntu-devel about whether it's important enough.
[02:05] <Fujitsu> I'd doubt it.
[02:05] <Fujitsu> But it's probably a good candidate for feisty-updates.
[02:05] <mheily> I am not the original reporter, so I can't edit the bug.
[02:06] <Fujitsu> The original reporter can't either.
[02:06] <Fujitsu> Only a member of ubuntu-qa.
[02:06] <mheily> Thanks again, and I'll go to #ubuntu-devel to let them know.
[02:06] <blueyed> There should be someone around here from ubuntu-qa.. :]
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106022 in beryl-core (universe) "it crashed, no idea why" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106022
[02:17] <tarheelcoxn> lol. nice bug title
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106023 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106023
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106024 in Ubuntu "Apearance and Settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106024
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106025 in gtk-gnutella (universe) "Gtk-Gnutella crashes on right-click and at random times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106025
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106026 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with TypeError in askConfirmation()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106026
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106027 in Ubuntu "Gnome scrolls with funny rendering" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106027
[02:58] <xtknight> any serious bugs that need attention?
[02:59] <harrisony> xtknight: dont think but since i am a n00bie bug helper.https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-gnutella/+bug/106025 im looking at this bug, would it be best to tell them to get a back trace
[03:00] <ubotu> Malone bug 106025 in gtk-gnutella "Gtk-Gnutella crashes on right-click and at random times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[03:01] <xtknight> harrisony, i believe apport usually generates about seven or eight attachments (backtrace,system config,etc).  i'm not sure how to invoke it, though.  ask him to define 'crash'.  also tell him to run it from the terminal and see if there are any errors or warnings printed.
[03:01] <xtknight> i believe apport usually comes up after a true "crash".  if it's just an instant termination/other unexpected behavior than a SIGSEGV or other quit singal apport wont come up.
[03:01] <harrisony> ahh ok thanks xtknight
[03:05] <mheily> nobody in #ubuntu-devel was interested in looking at bug # 104332.. I think the next step would be to have it considered for feisty-updates.  How does the bug get assigned to someone that could nominate it for inclusion in feisty-updates?
[03:05] <xtknight> bug 104332
[03:06] <ubotu> Malone bug 104332 in rdesktop "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104332
[03:07] <xtknight> not sure, really
[03:08] <harrisony> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rdesktop/+bug/104332/+nominate ?
[03:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 104332 in rdesktop "Segmentation Fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:10] <mheily> ok, i nominated it for feisty.. :) thx
[03:13] <harrisony> bug 82335
[03:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 82335 in network-manager "network-manager should not set offline mode when it manages no device" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82335
[03:14] <harrisony> ^^ seems to be causing alot of problems everywere
[03:15] <mheily> just curious, what are the chances that Feisty's release date will be pushed back for additional QA work?
[03:15] <mheily> I remember it was done for LTS but I don't know about these 6-month releases..
[03:18] <harrisony> mheily: i doubt it would unless there is a major "ZOMGZOMGZOMG WERE ALL DEAD!!!" that breaks every install or alot of installs
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106028 in kvm (universe) "Not installable in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106028
[03:23] <mheily> i would like to see future Herd releases include QEMU images so that people can run the next version in a virtual machine and check their favorite apps for problems without committing to upgrading their production machine. I waited until last week to upgrade and thats when I found the rdesktop problem. If I had been able to use an alpha version of feisty a month ago, I could have caught this in time for the release.
[03:24] <mheily> Perhaps I should file a wishlist bug report requesting this feature. Or would this be something better handled in the Wiki?
[03:27] <harrisony> mheily: grab the installer and run in QEMU or Vmware
[03:29] <mheily> i meant to say, officially built preinstalled base systems that people can play with right away
[03:29] <Fujitsu> Live CD + qemu/VMWare == just that
[03:29] <Fujitsu> s/Live/Desktop./
[03:30] <harrisony> and then if you install it you get test the installer as well :)
[03:39] <mheily> that's a good idea, i'll try that next time.
[03:39] <mheily> l8r
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106032 in hydrogen (universe) "hydrogen crashes after closing intro box" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106032
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106030 in beryl-core (universe) "random crashes of Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106030
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106034 in glide (universe) "Graphic problems in Supertux with 3dfx video cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106034
[03:52] <khnh> hi guys
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106036 in Ubuntu "Agies icon missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106036
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106048 in dillo (universe) "dillo crashed with claws-mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106048
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106049 in k3b (main) "K3B frezze Burning CD that not stop to run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106049
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106054 in scim (main) "scim failed to launch properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106054
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106060 in gnome-panel (main) "Selecting the Molecule screensaver makes the PC freeze. It is completely unresponsive." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106060
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106061 in gnomeradio (universe) "gnomeradio can not tune radio after upgrading to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106061
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106063 in Ubuntu "Computer will not boot after dist-upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106063
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106064 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106064
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106074 in Ubuntu "Many characters missing in Japanese installer boot help screens" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106074
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106076 in Ubuntu "Graphicap upgrade tool wanted to upgrade to 6.10 even after already upgraded manually" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106076
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106079 in linux-meta (main) "<IP_ADDRESS> kernel panic MCE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106079
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106083 in ubiquity (main) "Partition from a former installation can't be mounted on '/' during installation." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106083
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106085 in Ubuntu "booting hang when upgrade to 2.6.20-14.24 in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106085
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106086 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "n_sectors mismatch, boot hang in 2.6.20-14 not 2.6.20-12" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106086
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106087 in gtk+2.0 (main) "Gaim and Firefox can't get input from keyboard." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106087
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106088 in network-manager (main) "Applet shows disconnected ethernet on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106088
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106089 in balazar (universe) "[apport]  balazar crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106089
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106090 in kcheckgmail (universe) "couldnot start menu item" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106090
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106092 in democracyplayer (universe) "DemocracyPlayer has no audio..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106092
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106093 in fmit (universe) "app crash on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106093
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106094 in xen-meta (universe) "ubuntu-xen-desktop name and description seem to conflict" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106094
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106096 in ktorrent (main) "[apport]  ktorrent crashed with signal 7 in bt::SHA1HashGen::processChunk()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106096
[07:37] <ubotu> New bug: #106097 in evms (main) "EVMS Boot-Problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106097
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106098 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails when upgrading from breezy to dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106098
[07:52] <drew_> hi, I'd like to confirm #63945
[07:54] <drew_> and/or #58308
[07:55] <bdmurray> bug 63945
[07:55] <ubotu> Malone bug 63945 in Baltix "language-support-en shouldn't depend on all english localization variants on the same time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63945
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106099 in xen-source (universe) "Bringing up a new Xen instance causes a kernel panic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106099
[07:55] <bdmurray> bug 58308
[07:55] <ubotu> Malone bug 58308 in language-support-en "No spell check in en-au locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58308
[07:56] <bdmurray> drew_: you could add a comment to that affect and update the bug
[07:56] <drew_> bdmurray: ah, ok
[07:56] <FatalCure> !info myspell-en-au
[07:56] <ubotu> myspell-en-au: English_australian dictionary for myspell. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 236 kB, installed size 644 kB
[07:56] <drew_> I was thinking a "me too" comment might be inappropriate
[07:57] <FatalCure> hm, universe
[07:58] <drew_> I filed bug 105879 too
[07:58] <ubotu> Malone bug 105879 in openoffice.org-hyphenation "please add hyph_en_AU.dic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105879
[07:59] <drew_> I made my own package which does this and so, as well as installing myspell-en-au, I now have AU support in OO.o
[08:00] <drew_> but it really should work out of the box
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106100 in Ubuntu "Feisty: Incorrectly identifies hd as sd (eg hda1 - sda1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106100
[08:02] <FatalCure> drew_: it's not possible to fit dictionaries for every locale on the CD.  That said, it would be good if the install, or perhaps a message at first reboot, flagged the additional packages required.
[08:02] <drew_> I also have a laptop that hangs after a few seconds of scp - no idea where to start on that... kernel bug? hardware fault? network driver?
[08:03] <drew_> package size 236 kB?
[08:04] <FatalCure> times how many locales?
[08:04] <drew_> I can guess why en-za is there but not en-au though
[08:04] <ubotu> New bug: #106091 in Ubuntu "FAT hard drive no longer mounting on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106091
[08:07] <FatalCure> drew_: now now :)
[08:07] <drew_> heh
[08:08] <FatalCure> c'mon they've got to have a win somewhere, look at how they choke at cricket ;P
[08:09] <drew_> obviously it's because of population 48,000,000 (za) vs 21,000,000 (au)
[08:10] <drew_> but I like the cricket and Mark explanations better
[08:10] <FatalCure> me too :)
[08:10] <FatalCure> regarding the scp hang.  Does ssh work OK?
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106101 in imagemagick (main) "convert segmentation fault core dump (but result image is ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106101
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106102 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Laptop won't boot after kernel update to 2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106102
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106103 in Ubuntu "Resume partition not configured by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106103
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106104 in Ubuntu "boot freezes with kernel 2.6.20-14-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106104
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106105 in wv (main) "[apport]  wvWare crashed with SIGSEGV in strcpy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106105
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106106 in xfmedia (universe) "Xfmedia crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106106
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106107 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV in QValueListPrivate<QString>::~QValueListPrivate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106107
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106108 in Ubuntu "openoffice :  installation dicoo (DicOOo.sxw)  " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106108
[08:34] <dholbach> good morning
[08:34] <lifeless> dholbach: enough already!
[08:35] <lifeless> dholbach: too many channels :)
[08:35] <dholbach> hey lifeless
[08:35] <lifeless> hiya
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106109 in Ubuntu "Network notification Icon on panel shows network not connected on reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106109
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106110 in linux-meta (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-14-generic faild to boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106110
[08:45] <gnomefreak> is there a reason n-m tells me im not connected?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> oh an di am connected
[08:45] <gnomefreak> and i
[08:45] <Mithrandir> gnomefreak: please try Scott's packages as announced on -devel.
[08:45] <Mithrandir> and follow up to that thread.
[08:46] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106111 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] pygrenouille, the mteo of the Net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106111
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106112 in gsambad (universe) "gsambad launcher" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106112
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106113 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QTreeWidgetItem::setData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106113
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106114 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106114
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106115 in pysol (universe) "Missed line in correction for Bug #80287 leaves an import error" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106115
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106116 in Ubuntu "tango icons disappeared in openoffice 2.2 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106116
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106118 in digikam (main) "digikam crashes on startup with a SIGABRT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106118
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106119 in firefox (main) "crash on system power-on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106119
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106120 in kde4libs (universe) "[apport]  klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106120
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106121 in Ubuntu "feisty - this morning software updates: tty not turned on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106121
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106122 in linux-meta (main) "new linux image freezes on ata_piix on boot does not recognize hdd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106122
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106123 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106123
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106124 in gtk2-engines (main) "Clearlooks, tooltips and notifications are gray now instead of yellow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106124
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106125 in network-manager (main) "wrong icon in networkmanager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106125
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106126 in nautilus (main) "Trashcan is mentioned to be empty if files will be deleted on USB stick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106126
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106127 in apt (main) "Wish: Clarify apt-get error message(s)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106127
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106128 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106128
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106130 in sane-backends (main) "Epson perfection 2580 (snapscan) weird behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106130
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106131 in Ubuntu "openoffice word does not show text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106131
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106129 in network-manager (main) "WPA2 Personal wireless networks don't work without manual configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106129
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106133 in Ubuntu "Feisty doesn't boot anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106133
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106132 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "System hangs during boot on sata_nv, only with linux-image-2.6.20-14.23" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106132
[10:22] <dholbach> bug 105623
[10:22] <ubotu> Malone bug 105623 in devmapper "udev rules missing from udeb" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105623
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106134 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  DKIM Milter" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106134
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106137 in kde4libs (universe) "[apport]  klauncher crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::isEmpty()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106137
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106136 in Ubuntu "Virtual desktop locked on save prompt during logoff" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106136
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106138 in Ubuntu "DVDs no longer watchable in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106138
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106139 in Ubuntu "ata1.oo revalidation failed with 04/13 update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106139
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106140 in evolution (main) "Resizing of new message window in evolution corrupts menu translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106140
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106141 in kdenetwork (main) "kopete hangs-up if can't connect DNS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106141
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106142 in hubackup (universe) "missing menu icon for HUBackup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106142
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106143 in kdevelop (universe) "kdevelop assistant crashes on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106143
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106144 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106144
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106145 in arts (main) "nt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106145
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106146 in samba (main) "Cannot mount cifs shares as normal user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106146
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106151 in slab (universe) "gnome-main-menu cannot be used in feisty-rc1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106151
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106153 in sbackup (universe) "[Whislist]  Let Sbackup use anacron over cron " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106153
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106155 in sbackup (universe) "[Whislist]  Sbackup should report when a backup fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106155
[11:30] <harrisony> if i find a bug which is a dupe of another bug should i close the bug and report as dupe or..
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106156 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager won't connect (but had previously)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106156
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106157 in Ubuntu "Cannot connect with networkmanager in latest kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106157
[11:31] <Mithrandir> harrisony: it is enough to mark it as a duplicate.
[11:31] <harrisony> Mithrandir: it is, ok thanks for that
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106158 in Ubuntu "My Ubuntu is crashing progressively" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106158
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106159 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106159
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106160 in evolution (main) "sorting contacts doesn't obey LC_COLLATE" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106160
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106161 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libnextaw0 / neXtaw " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106161
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106163 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "feisty hangs on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106163
[12:01] <harrisony> does anyone uses any perticular programs for editing bugs or browser tools to say file bugs as dupes quicker, etc.
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106164 in Ubuntu "Capslock LED doesn't work..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106164
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106165 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106165
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106166 in drgeo (universe) "tried to move line segment and line" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106166
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106167 in telepathy-feed (universe) "Warning in galago-telepathy-feed (output of galago-daemon)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106167
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106169 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Latest kernel update does not boot (7.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106169
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106170 in gnome-screensaver (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_gnome-screensaver_gnome-screensaver_slideshow.1000.crash, Failed to initialize HAL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106170
[12:19] <mdz> 106169 duped
[12:19] <Mithrandir> bug 106169
[12:19] <ubotu> Malone bug 106169 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Latest kernel update does not boot (7.04) (dup-of: 106063)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106169
[12:19] <ubotu> Malone bug 106063 in linux-source-2.6.20 "MASTER: Computer will not boot after 2.6.20-14.24 kernel upgrade" [Critical,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106063
[12:21] <Mithrandir> the package is blocked in the apache config now, so we should hopefully have less failures to worry about.
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106171 in network-manager (main) "Network Manager shows no active connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106171
[12:28] <ogra> ARGH
[12:28] <ogra> in bug 106170 the reported copy/pasted the whole apport stuff
[12:28] <ubotu> Malone bug 106170 in gnome-screensaver "/var/crash/_usr_lib_gnome-screensaver_gnome-screensaver_slideshow.1000.crash, Failed to initialize HAL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106170
[12:29] <ogra> *reporter
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106172 in qgis (universe) "QGIS crashes when loading .dbf files to vector layers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106172
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106173 in gftp (main) "freezes downloading dir" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106173
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106174 in Ubuntu "invalid syntax" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106174
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106175 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106175
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106176 in epiphany-browser (main) "[apport]  epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106176
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106177 in dmraid (universe) "make dmraid play nice with udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106177
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106178 in Ubuntu "cannot preform downloads" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106178
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106179 in stardict (universe) "stardict crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106179
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106180 in freeradius (universe) "Freeradius package instalation breaks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106180
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106182 in Ubuntu "Failed to initialize HAL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106182
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106181 in xorg (main) ""turn off" from kde menu crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106181
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106183 in Ubuntu "kfind crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106183
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106184 in Ubuntu "I cannot install nvu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106184
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106185 in pgadmin3 (universe) "pgadmin crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106185
[01:41] <mdz> d
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106186 in openoffice.org (main) "tango icons disappeared in openoffice 2.2 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106186
[01:48] <mdz> harrisony: hello
[01:48] <mdz> that stray 'd' was the end of a sentence typed in another xchat tab while it was still starting up and connecting
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106187 in vim (main) "vim package broken   " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106187
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106188 in adesklets (universe) "adesklets don't work with the -w option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106188
[01:51] <harrisony> lol, i am always doing !<word> commands in random channels that i ment to do in a ubuntu channel
[01:58] <bimberi> !info vim edgy
[01:58] <ubotu> vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[01:58] <bimberi> !info vim-common edgy
[01:58] <ubotu> vim-common: Vi IMproved - Common files. In component main, is important. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 568 kB
[01:59] <bimberi> hm, 106187 is almost certainly bad sources.  Will reject.
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106189 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Yet another suspend problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106189
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106190 in linux-meta (main) "Feisty's does not boot with Linux 2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106190
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106191 in Ubuntu "suspend to ram not working since last kernel update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106191
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106192 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-14 (amd64 generic) hangs at startup "waiting for root filesystem"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106192
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106193 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Workspace Switcher will not save workspace names. (Feisty <IP_ADDRESS> Desktop Effects enabled)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106193
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106194 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel postinst script fails without grub installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106194
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> bug #106149
[02:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 106149 in kubuntu-docs "Kubuntu-docs: Faulty string (#17) in office" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106149
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> grrr
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106195 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "Gnome-vfs not supported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106195
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106196 in desktop-effects (main) "desktop-effects ... no frames" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106196
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106197 in nload (universe) "nload average function files with high bitrates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106197
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106198 in Ubuntu "Wakeup after suspend to RAM not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106198
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106199 in firefox (main) "[feisty]  50% of cpu when a page is waiting to load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106199
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106200 in texlive-extra (universe) "migration to texlive broken if old tetex not purged" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106200
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106201 in human-icon-theme (main) "Low resolution <!> Warning icon stretched" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106201
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106203 in muine (universe) "muine does not start: "Failed to initialize the audio backend"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106203
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106208 in openoffice.org-l10n (main) "[Feisty]  Option "Java" is not visible, Java is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106208
[02:52] <ubotu> New bug: #106202 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "Fiesty Herd5 Live CD incorrectly boots at 640*480" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106202
[02:52] <ubotu> New bug: #106204 in evolution (main) "Evolution junk filter not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106204
[02:53] <ubotu> New bug: #106206 in Ubuntu "please sync package jabref from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106206
[02:53] <ubotu> New bug: #106207 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager adds AddARGBVisuals and stuff to wrong section" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106207
[03:00] <ScottK> bdmurray: Breezy is at EOL today.  What is the proper status after today for a breezy specific bug?  Bug #45393 for example...
[03:00] <ubotu> Malone bug 45393 in clamav "Backport ClamAV/ClamAV-Daemon 0.88.2 to Breezy" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45393
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106209 in Ubuntu "Feisty fsck Unable to resolve UUID" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106209
[03:01] <Hobbsee> ScottK: reject it.  reject them all!
[03:01] <Hobbsee> :D
[03:01] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Unless he tells me different, that's what I"m going to to starting in 11 hours.
[03:01] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i'll overrule him. kill them all off :)
[03:01] <Hobbsee> as logn as they dont apply to dapper and later, they go
[03:01] <ogra> why wait 11h ?
[03:02] <ogra> breezy is over ...
[03:02] <Mithrandir> you're free to do it now, fwiw.
[03:02] <Hobbsee> was 21 hours ago :)
[03:02] <Hobbsee> er, 25.
[03:02] <ScottK> OK.  LP needs updating then... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/breezy/+milestones
[03:02] <Hobbsee> ScottK: think it was just done?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> Status:  	Obsolete
[03:03] <Hobbsee> yep, it was
[03:03] <ScottK> Hah.  I checked that 5 minutes ago.
[03:04] <Mithrandir> ScottK: done, thanks.
[03:04] <Mithrandir> I asked a sysadmin to change it about five minutes ago, so
[03:16] <viviersf> erm wtf
[03:16] <viviersf> my gnetworkmanager like shows, no network connection, but its connected to the wired interface
[03:16] <ogra> update
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106211 in base-installer (main) "ubuntu installer got stuck in while setting the time-zone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106211
[03:28] <ubotu> New bug: #106205 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "system freeze" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106205
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106212 in network-manager (main) "Manual config icon is the same as wired connection icon" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106212
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106213 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel 2.6.20-14.23 crashed at begining of boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106213
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106214 in gnome-panel (main) "network-manager icon disappears when deactivating wireless network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106214
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106217 in Ubuntu "hidden file controlling NVIDIA driver does not get removed when switching from nvidia-glx-new back to nvidia-glx causing X not to start due to mismatch of versions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106217
[03:48] <Kmos> ScottK: :)
[03:48] <ScottK> Kmos: Normally it doesn't get fix released until the fixed package has all it's binaries built.
[03:49] <ScottK> Better to find the bug they are actually working on and dupe it to that one.
[03:49] <ScottK> Kmos: Do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[03:49] <Kmos> Ubuntu
[03:50] <ScottK> OK.  There was a new network-manager released in the last 24 hours.  It's in the archives now.
[03:50] <ScottK> For that bug, see if you can reproduce it with the new network manager.
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106219 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "can't start system afer update kernel to 2.6.20-14.23" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106219
[03:51] <Kmos> the keybuk one ?
[03:51] <Kmos> it's working.. don't appear the alert icon
[03:52] <Kmos> in my ethernet connection, I don't have wireless on this pc
[03:52] <ScottK> bug 106214
[03:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 106214 in network-manager "network-manager icon disappears when deactivating wireless network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106214
[03:52] <ScottK> Ah.
[03:52] <Kmos> only at laptop, but don't have charger for battery, it's at ACER..
[03:52] <ScottK> Then there isn't much you can do on that one.
[03:52] <Kmos> yeah, i've changed package name from gnome-panel to network-manager
[03:52] <ScottK> Look for dupes is about it.
[03:52] <ScottK> That's good.
[03:53] <Kmos> I try to help =)
[03:53] <Kmos> I've already rejected the bugs of breezy, so people will update to a new version (edgy)
[03:53] <ScottK> That's good too.
[03:53] <Kmos> and tell SteveA to block it on launchpad
[03:53] <Kmos> :)
[03:53] <Hobbsee> Kmos: great :)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> breezy's no longer supported - yay :)
[03:54] <ScottK> It's virtually never the right idea to interrupt on #ubuntu-devel to tell them about bugs.
[03:54] <Kmos> yeah
[03:54] <ScottK> Triage them and move on.
[03:54] <Kmos> ScottK: yeah.. it's a working channel :P
[03:54] <Hobbsee> particularly at the moment
[03:54] <Kmos> yeah
[03:54] <Hobbsee> ScottK: unless it's release critical :P
[03:55] <ranf> hi
[03:55] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Yes.  That's why I said virtually.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:55] <Kmos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing-ports/breezy_probs.html
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106220 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Fesity 2.4.20-14 Upgrade from 2007-04-12 broken Boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106220
[03:55] <Kmos> how can kill this ?
[03:56] <ScottK> Kmos: You can't.  The archive admins have to.
[03:56] <ScottK> What you can do is look for UVF or backport bugs for breezy and reject those.
[03:56] <Kmos> I know i can't.. but here.. how can ? =)
[03:57] <ScottK> I think the people that would have to do that are focused on getting Feisty out the door for the next week.  Leave it be.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> right, gone.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> ScottK: they're waiting on the publisher.  but you've got to pick yoru times :P
[03:57] <ScottK> That or ask Hobbsee to do it.  She has virtually unlimited powers here.
[03:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:58] <Hobbsee> oh i get told to shut up occasionally
[03:58] <Hobbsee> but i wield the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , so...
[03:58] <ScottK> Yep.
[03:58] <Hobbsee> it's done :)
[03:59] <Kmos> :)
[03:59] <Kmos> lol
[03:59] <Kmos> Hobbsee: you kill it, nice :D
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Kmos: :)
[03:59] <Kmos> and the generator ?
[03:59] <Kmos> :)
[03:59] <Kmos> of that files
[03:59] <Hobbsee> yeah, he would have done that
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106221 in update-manager (main) "Messages displayed in wrong charset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106221
[04:01] <Kmos> Hobbsee: nice, thx
[04:01] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I see a lot of charset issues going by in the last couple of days.
[04:02] <Hobbsee> ScottK: oh dear.
[04:02] <ScottK> None of them individually are, but collectively I don't know.
[04:04] <ScottK> Hobbsee: As an example. Bug # 105900 - How does that happen without some underlying BAD thing being wrong?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> bug 105900
[04:04] <ubotu> Malone bug 105900 in openoffice.org "Bold, Italics, and Bold Italics not in English on Fonts menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105900
[04:05] <Hobbsee> ScottK: that's edgy
[04:05] <ScottK> No.
[04:05] <Hobbsee> oh.  i misread
[04:06] <Hobbsee> so you are
[04:07] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:07] <Kmos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/langpacks/daily/breezy-updates/
[04:07] <ScottK> Any chance you could check and see if you can confirm it?
[04:07] <Kmos> this will disappear too =)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> ScottK:
[04:10] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i'm on a different locale
[04:10] <ScottK> Sure, but if it happens on more than one locale, that's a good confirmation...
[04:12] <bddebian> Boo
[04:13] <Hobbsee> bee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106226 in funnelweb-doc (universe) "Background image makes pages hard to read." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106226
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106227 in update-manager (main) "kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade prevents upgrade" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106227
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106229 in firefox (main) "firefox crash while surfing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106229
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106230 in acpi-support (main) "[feisty]  support of a acpi feature lost" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106230
[04:26] <ogra> bravo!
[04:27] <ubotu> New bug: #106224 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106224
[04:27] <ubotu> New bug: #106228 in Ubuntu "hard lock during updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106228
[04:28] <ubotu> New bug: #106222 in Ubuntu "graphic card halt during boot live-cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106222
[04:28] <ubotu> New bug: #106223 in kdesdk (main) "[kbabel]  string search freezes and full usage of cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106223
[04:28] <ubotu> New bug: #106225 in Ubuntu "after feisty update: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-14-generic problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106225
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106232 in blender (universe) "No window icon with Blender" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106232
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106233 in xubuntu-default-settings (main) "xfce-pannel are too large by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106233
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106234 in supybot (universe) "Error when dealing with UTF-8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106234
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106235 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  kitsune" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106235
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106236 in Ubuntu "opera pluggin wrapper crashes (seemingly) at random" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106236
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106237 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  radiocap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106237
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106239 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  qtpfsgui" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106239
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106238 in Ubuntu "Feisty: Install to RAID fails to boot after install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106238
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106240 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106240
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106241 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  rufus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106241
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106242 in Ubuntu "Auto update failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106242
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106244 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "CONF Variable in /etc/init.d/mysql unused" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106244
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106245 in cupsys (main) "[feisty]  web vulnerability " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106245
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106246 in Ubuntu "amd64 install of wine with .deb not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106246
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106247 in kdebase (main) "konqueror crash when visiting web page " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106247
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106248 in Ubuntu "bluetooth crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106248
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106249 in Ubuntu "bluetooth crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106249
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106253 in Ubuntu "Archive Failed to Fetch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106253
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106250 in amarok (main) "amarok crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106250
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106251 in kdeaccessibility (main) "Ksayit won't open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106251
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106252 in gnome-panel "Clock shows completed tasks as incomplete" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106252
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106254 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  Synaptics touchpad device file numeral ID iterates after each warm reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106254
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #106150 in Ubuntu "Canon LBP800" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106150
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106255 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106255
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106256 in Ubuntu "boot process hangs when wireless switch enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106256
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106257 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Latest Upgrade renders computer unbootable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106257
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106258 in Ubuntu "System wont boot after updating to 2.6.20-14 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106258
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106259 in Ubuntu "Wrong icons used in menu and desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106259
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106261 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106261
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106260 in Ubuntu "Boot hangs with "Waiting for root file system" since kernel 2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106260
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106262 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet consuming lots of ram" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106262
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106263 in kdegraphics (main) "[apport]  kdvi crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106263
[06:01] <pochu> Any idea why this link doesn't work? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_i386.deb
[06:02] <ScottK> pochu: I think because it's broken and they didn't want people to bork their systems.
[06:02] <bdmurray> pochu: I think it has been superceeded.
[06:02] <pochu> Oh, thanks :)
[06:02] <ScottK> It's to stop people upgrading to a broken kernel while they get the new one out.
[06:02] <pochu> Then I'll try BenC's kernel
[06:03] <bdmurray> pochu: the newer one should be mirrored now
[06:03] <pochu> bdmurray: It isn't
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106264 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "postrm hook script: don't call /sbin/update-grub ..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106264
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106265 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "After kernel update to 2.6.20-14-generic MY hdb drive became SDA so my hda drive is not recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106265
[06:09] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, it should be on its way
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106266 in kile (universe) "Kile crashs at end of spellchecking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106266
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106267 in kdenetwork (main) "Kopete does not connect to ICQ Network after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106267
[06:18] <pochu> bdmurray: cool, thanks :)
[06:18] <bdmurray> pochu: How are you?
[06:19] <pochu> bdmurray: fine :) Here we are on holidays!! ;)
[06:19] <bdmurray> Holidays for?
[06:20] <pochu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murcia
[06:20] <pochu> Local holidays ;)
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106268 in adept (main) "Misspelling in adept_manager error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106268
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106271 in Ubuntu "Update Manager failed to fetch Linux Kernel update" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106271
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106270 in ubiquity (main) "partitionnement impossible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106270
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106272 in eclipse (universe) "eclispe does not work with svn and webdav" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106272
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106273 in Ubuntu "Asus A6000 (A6KT) fails to boot from CD-Rom (6.06 LTS)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106273
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106274 in firefox (main) "unknown error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106274
[06:53] <juan_ateo> hi
[06:53] <juan_ateo> hola
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #106275 in widelands (universe) "game exiting itself when I play." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106275
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #106277 in Ubuntu "Assistive Technology Suport Disabled no AT-SPI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106277
[07:03] <ranf> what do I do if a package is not found  on launchpad? Bug 97696 -->> should be "zaptel-source"
[07:03] <ubotu> Malone bug 97696 in zaptel "can't build zaptel kernel modules (1.2.15~dfsg-1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97696
[07:05] <mooey> ranf: zaptel-source is built from the zaptel package, so it is in the correct place at the momen
[07:05] <mooey> +t
[07:05] <ranf> mooey, ah ok I see. thanks
[07:06] <mooey> it seems a few packages are broken due to the linux/config.h change
[07:07] <ranf> I simply removed that one #include line (to make it work for me)
[07:07] <mooey> :)
[07:08] <ranf> but it took some time to hunt the cause down thru google
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106278 in restricted-manager (main) "Balloon disappears to quickly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106278
[07:11] <ogra> less up winds on the desktop :)
[07:12] <mooey> haha
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106279 in linux-meta "driver recognised but no sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106279
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106280 in amsn (universe) "turkish character problem." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106280
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106282 in rhythmbox (main) "remove the line between the buttons and the song title" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106282
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106281 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  since last update kernel update 2.6.20-14.23 can't boot, ata device broken (dup-of: 106063)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106281
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106283 in nautilus (main) "unable to eject usb disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106283
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106284 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Hard drive fails in use or on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106284
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106285 in firefox (main) "firefox unknow crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106285
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106286 in gnome-netstatus "despite showing the network under 'connection information', it shows 'no network' on start up. after clicking on 'wired network' (I have an ethernet card) it shows connection ok. (dup-of: 105234)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106286
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106288 in acpi (main) "Toshiba P100-474 with feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106288
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106289 in Ubuntu "PS/2 Keyboards Not Responding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106289
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106290 in xtide (universe) "xtide won't start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106290
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #106291 in freeloader (universe) "didn't close immediately" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106291
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106292 in Ubuntu "kernel 2.6.20-14 not booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106292
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106293 in evolution (main) "Evolution consume all CPU when viewing email with PDF attachment." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106293
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106294 in network-manager (main) "networkmanager no longer accepts 26-char WEP hex keys" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106294
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106295 in Ubuntu "Feisty 7.04 beta: Cannot boot after update on 13.april (friday)." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106295
[08:08] <shirish> can somebody help me, I have no desktop after today's updates, Intel Express i845 chipset
[08:09] <shirish> does not even dump me to the terminal, and CTRL+ALT+F1 does not give anything either.
[08:10] <shirish> i was not able to install the kernel update, so that's out.
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106296 in Ubuntu "Kernel updates break ALC861 sound on Toshiba A100" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106296
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106297 in linux-meta (main) "cannot boot: machine check exception - kernel panic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106297
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106298 in Ubuntu "Feisty: Kubuntu cannot run update due to failure of a download (linux kernel)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106298
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106299 in evince (main) "cannot start fullscreen presentation mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106299
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106300 in Ubuntu "Playing mp3 with totem the 3D desktop become slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106300
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106301 in exaile (universe) "[need-packaging]  Exaile 0.2.9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106301
[08:54] <exosyst> anyone with an Intel chipset experienced Totem acting up when playing Video with AIGLX enabled?
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106302 in network-manager (main) "network manager doesn't work correctly " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106302
[08:57] <pochu> exosyst: there's a bug about it
[08:57] <exosyst> hmm, that mean it's not gonna make feisty though?
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106303 in Ubuntu "iec958 is docking headphone instead of spdif" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106303
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106304 in gst-python (universe) "please remove the gst-python source and binaries from feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106304
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106305 in kdepim (main) "Kontact SIGSEGV in kdepim_3.5.6-0ubuntu7 when clicking "Configure Kmail"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106305
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #106306 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV in gx_image_end()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106306
[09:14] <pochu> exosyst: It may, and it may not
[09:14] <pochu> exosyst: there is no enough info yet, I'm afraid
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106307 in libbonobo (main) "[apport]  bonobo-activation-server crashed with SIGSEGV in g_private_get_posix_impl()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106307
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #106308 in gnome-panel (main) "All 'windows' are missing their 'frames and the panel in general is not working correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106308
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106309 in nvidia-kernel-common (restricted) "GeForce2 Go Card displays 'half screen' error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106309
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106310 in Ubuntu "Ububtu 6.10 does not work on it's own install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106310
[09:27] <exosyst> pochu: ok thanks - I shall keep the ol fingers crossed
[09:27] <pochu> exosyst: or you can help with it ;)
[09:28] <exosyst> pochu: I could, if only there was a bounty on it :P - seriously tho, i wouldnt know where to start and I think it's a gstreamer issue rather than totem
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106311 in Ubuntu "no boot with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106311
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #106312 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[Feisty]  2.6.20-14-generic: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-19)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106312
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106313 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-14-server Freeze on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106313
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106314 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  Firefox doesn't support X11/Gnome/KDE session managment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106314
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106315 in gzip (main) "gzip stopped unexpectedley when i was backing up to a external usb hard drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106315
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106316 in ghdl (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106316
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106318 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "sata ide mode fails to boot with latest 2.6.20-14 update, OK with ahci mode -AOpen i945GTt-VFA motherboard, Intel ICH7MDH chipset  " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106318
[10:02] <askar> When my batterylevel is critical and the screen gets blank I cnnot after that use my keyoard..is that known bug?
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #106325 in Ubuntu "Cannot download these programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106325
[10:07] <ubotu> New bug: #106320 in apport (main) "Help -> Report a Problem not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106320
[10:07] <ubotu> New bug: #106321 in gaim (main) "Gaim wont connect to msn and shuts down (dup-of: 70473)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106321
[10:07] <ubotu> New bug: #106322 in gst-plugins-bad-multiverse0.10 (multiverse) "aac encoder output not interoperable with aac decoder, possibly erroneous" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106322
[10:07] <ubotu> New bug: #106323 in ubiquity (main) "cant crreate partition table" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106323
[10:07] <ubotu> New bug: #106324 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  eAccelerator" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106324
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106326 in amaya (universe) "Amaya doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106326
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106327 in Ubuntu "Unable to install xfce4-devel: libdbh1.0-dev cannot be found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106327
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106328 in hotkey-setup (main) "dell.hk: line 21: setkeycode: command not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106328
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #106329 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  kiki the nano bot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106329
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #106330 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106330
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #106331 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-kde crashed with IndexError in sendData()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106331
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #106332 in update-manager (main) "initramfs-tools RESUME= should be set when upgrading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106332
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106334 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::AudioSubSystem::close()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106334
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106335 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with TypeError in BindingIsVisibleMethod()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106335
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #106336 in Ubuntu "Fallo en el Update del linux-image-2.6.20-14" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106336
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106337 in xmms-kde (universe) "xmms-kde freezes the KDE desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106337
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106339 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-image-2.6.20-14-386 doesn't boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106339
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106340 in hal (main) "IBM_SERVICE partition is visible in Computer in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106340
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #106341 in aspell (main) "aspell EATS UP ALL MEMORY and FILLS SWAP when pasting PHP source code into a new mail in KMail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106341
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #106342 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "[apport]  emacs-snapshot-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106342
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106343 in libusb (main) "Cannot build libusb++ using USE_UNTESTED_LIBUSBPP_METHODS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106343
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #106344 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu Feisty beta installer crashes during startup of ubiquity partitioner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106344
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #106346 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed in a Compaq Evo 510 Celeron " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106346
[11:34] <smokie> hello vry1
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106347 in libusb (main) "Cannot build feisty source package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106347
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106348 in aoetools (universe) "aoetools should depend on "bc"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106348
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #106349 in php-memcache (universe) ""php5-memcache" don`t edit php.ini right (dup-of: 88018)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106349
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106350 in metacity (main) "Metacity crash corrupts future Gnome sessions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106350
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #106351 in firefox (main) "Right click near lower right corner automatically triggers page direction switch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106351
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #106352 in lcd4linux (universe) "please sync lcd4linux_0.10.1~rc1-1 from debian/unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106352
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106354 in quicksynergy (universe) "Please sync quicksynergy 0.5-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106354
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #106355 in kde-guidance (main) "Powermonitor crash after today's update." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106355
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #106353 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl-core crash --force-aixgl nvidia at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106353
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106356 in totem (main) "Totem don't load subtitles." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106356
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106358 in nautilus (main) "[edgy]  ISO image writing fails (but works with K3b)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106358
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #106359 in Ubuntu "2.6.20-14.2x  to 2.6.20-15.24 - machine exception and panic during SATA discovery" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106359
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106357 in clamav (universe) "UVFe for clamav 0.90.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106357
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106360 in totem (main) "Totem forward froze movie" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106360
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106361 in kdebase (main) "KDesktop freezes when NFS-mount-point computer gets disconnected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106361
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #106362 in xsane (main) "Agfa Snapscan e20 : Xsane displays pop-up messages and crashes sometimes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106362


[02:02] <bashgeek> hi
[02:02] <bashgeek> is there any installation guide to install ubuntu on a remote system via. rescue console?
[02:47] <troy> good day folks
[08:22] <ubijtsa2> fabbione: no worries..
[08:22] <fabbione> morning
[08:22] <fabbione> i am not worried :)
[08:22] <fabbione> what' s up?
[08:23] <ubijtsa2> I was going to ask you about setting a hard stack limit in /etc/security/limits.conf
[08:24] <ubijtsa2> testing it last night though showed there being no difference in memory usage on a freshly booted system
[08:24] <fabbione> hmmm i am not too happy about changing these defaults
[08:24] <ubijtsa2> it had been suggested to me it could make as much difference as 100MB on a full Gnome desktop..
[08:25] <ubijtsa2> the default of the system seems to be allocating 8MB of stack, and lowering that to 512kB was the suggestion
[08:26] <ubijtsa2> as it turns out, it probably will not make that much difference.. hence the 'no worries' comment :)
[08:26] <fabbione> nope
[08:26] <fabbione> that's just wrong
[08:27] <fabbione> that's not the default alloc on the stack.
[08:27] <fabbione> it's max amount of stack a user can allocate
[08:27] <fabbione> if you hit the limit, the process is killed
[08:28] <fabbione> so something like that will just break in some corner cases
[08:28] <fabbione> = BAD
[08:28] <ubijtsa2> Mmhmm.. I wanted to ask you about it last night, but while rebooting I encountered oddities with zeroconf
[08:28] <ubijtsa2> hence why I was not back on IRC when you replied
[08:30] <ubijtsa2> still, half a meg of stack should be more than adequate..
[08:31] <fabbione> -> REJECTED
[08:31] <fabbione> it breaks stuff in corner cases
[08:31] <fabbione> and you don't want that
[08:32] <fabbione> 8MB is more than fine
[08:32] <fabbione> and again, it is a limit
[08:32] <ubijtsa2> I understand..
[08:32] <fabbione> it's not allocated by default
[08:37] <neuralis> fabbione: long time no see
[08:37] <neuralis> fabbione: how are things?
[08:38] <fabbione> hey neuralis
[08:38] <fabbione> i am fine and you?
[08:46] <neuralis> pretty good, moved back to cambridge a week ago, horribly busy
[08:46] <fabbione> i believe that
[08:47] <neuralis> how's server-candy coming along?
[08:47] <fabbione> we are at 2/3 more or less
[08:47] <neuralis> nice!
[08:47] <fabbione> there are things that needs to be done
[08:47] <fabbione> but we are getting there
[08:48] <fabbione> we won't manage to get /etc in RCS
[08:48] <fabbione> but otherwise we are okish
[08:48] <neuralis> hmm, too complicated or other problems?
[08:48] <fabbione> mainly the changes in bzr
[08:49] <fabbione> bzr is changing too fast to be good for 5 years
[08:49] <fabbione> and i didn't want the overhead of other RCS
[08:49] <neuralis> yeah, good decision
[08:49] <fabbione> there are also the 3rdy part tools that need packaging or something
[08:49] <fabbione> assuming we can redistribute them
[08:49] <fabbione> but that's like a couple of days of work
[08:50] <neuralis> although, for just versioning /etc, bzr 0.7 would probably be just fine
[08:50] <fabbione> my point is that the bzr backend is changing fast
[08:50] <fabbione> so let say we ship 0.7 in dapper
[08:50] <fabbione> it might not be compatible with dapper+1
[08:50] <fabbione> figure in 5 years
[08:50] <fabbione> so you might not be able to use the repos for cross merging
[08:51] <fabbione> and that's one of the most interesting features about having all /etc in RCS
[08:51] <neuralis> right.
[08:51] <fabbione> cherry-pick this change from the test-server... boom
[08:51] <neuralis> well, bzr should stabilize quite a bit by dapper+1, so hopefully we can do it then.
[08:52] <fabbione> did you hear anything from the cluster guys?
[08:52] <neuralis> nope.
[08:52] <fabbione> i guess they won't match our deadlines
[08:53] <fabbione> oh well.. we will work it out for dapper+1 hopefully
[08:53] <neuralis> it sounds like they'll still put out openssi packages for dapper, just not through ubuntu channels
[08:53] <fabbione> that's sick.. but ok
[08:53] <fabbione> if they prefer that way
[08:53] <neuralis> they don't, but there just wasn't enouh time to meet UVF
[08:53] <neuralis> *enough
[08:53] <fabbione> well they need to meet Feature Freeze
[08:54] <fabbione> that's in 13 days
[08:54] <ajmitch> bzr guys are hoping to have 0.8 in dapper, with the understanding that there be some stability in branch formats & API (though probably not for 5 years)
[08:54] <neuralis> ajmitch: they're aiming for 6-12 months.
[08:54] <ajmitch> not nearly enough for a 5-year distro support
[08:54] <neuralis> fabbione: to be honest, i think it's better for ubuntu not to have it in officially for dapper. it's not stable enough.
[08:54] <fabbione> neuralis: ok
[08:55] <neuralis> fabbione: so let them put out packages separately and get testing, and we can look at official inclusion for dapper+1
[08:55] <fabbione> neuralis: right, but we will land in the exact same problem
[08:55] <fabbione> dapper+1 won't have .15
[08:55] <fabbione> probably .18 or something
[08:56] <fabbione> if the openssi guys don't start tracking recent kernels, it will be the same as Xen for hoary/breezy/dapper...
[08:56] <fabbione> anyway i need to reboot my ws
[08:56] <fabbione> brb
[08:56] <neuralis> ok
[09:06] <fabbione> re
[09:13] <neuralis> fabbione: around feature freeze, i'd like to chat with you briefly about everything that went into server, to make sure i don't forget anything
[09:14] <fabbione> sure
[09:15] <fabbione> assuming i can remember all of it :)
[09:15] <fabbione> but i think we should chat about it today
[09:15] <fabbione> so if there is something i did overlook
[09:15] <fabbione> there might be time to get it done
[09:15] <neuralis> sure
[09:15] <neuralis> would you like to do it now or later?
[09:15] <fabbione> i just need about 20 minutes to finish something
[09:16] <neuralis> sure. ping me when you're back.
[09:16] <fabbione> yup
[09:42] <fabbione> re
[09:42] <fabbione> neuralis: still around?
[09:44] <neuralis> fabbione: yep
[09:45] <fabbione> ok where do you want to start?
[09:45] <neuralis> i just went over the list of all dapper specs
[09:46] <neuralis> relevant to servers are HardwareTestingCatalog, CommunityServerHardwareTesting, KernelServerRoadmap, TestingServerHardware, ServerCandy, UbuntuClusters
[09:46] <neuralis> we should probably talk only about the last two
[09:46] <fabbione> KernelServerRoadmap is implemented
[09:46] <fabbione> in terms that we have the kernels
[09:46] <fabbione> we need to make them the defatuls for server CD
[09:47] <fabbione> and probably do some more config tuning
[09:47] <fabbione> nothing really fancy is left there
[09:47] <neuralis> right, i just want to find out specifically what was changed in them, although i suppose i can just look at the .config
[09:47] <fabbione> basically -server doesn't have PREEMPT, HZ=100
[09:47] <fabbione> and a bunch of modules have been removed from -desktop
[09:48] <neuralis> sound, DRM removed, i imagine
[09:48] <neuralis> eah
[09:48] <neuralis> *yeah
[09:48] <fabbione> like for example OCFS2 and GFS
[09:48] <fabbione> no, sound is there
[09:48] <fabbione> you might want a streaming server "use case"
[09:48] <fabbione> but clearly you don't need OCFS2 on your workstation
[09:48] <neuralis> right.
[09:49] <fabbione> -server on i386 is only 686+SMP
[09:49] <fabbione> it has basic numa support
[09:49] <fabbione> -server-bigiron is pushed to the limit of 64CPU or something
[09:49] <fabbione> with bignuma support
[09:49] <neuralis> got it.
[09:49] <fabbione> Ben's definition of -server-bigiron was really good
[09:50] <neuralis> the one posted to -devel? i remember reading it :)
[09:50] <fabbione> yeah that one
[09:50] <neuralis> okay. so that gets rid of kernel, and i know what's been going on with the three server specs, so let's talk about server-candy and ubuntu-clusters.
[09:51] <fabbione> yup
[09:51] <fabbione> for Cluster i only managed to keep GFS and OCFS2 updated to a decent level
[09:51] <neuralis> okay. slurm didn't make it in due to licencing issues, correct?
[09:52] <fabbione> slurm is GPL
[09:52] <fabbione> but it links with ssl
[09:52] <neuralis> but links against openssl
[09:52] <neuralis> right
[09:52] <fabbione> and i never got around to ask all upstreams for permissions
[09:52] <fabbione> or try to port it to gnutls
[09:53] <neuralis> i think asking for permission is impractical; probably too many contributors
[09:53] <maswan> how about torque then?
[09:53] <fabbione> neuralis: i agree
[09:53] <maswan> slurm seems to have less licensing issues though, just a gnutls port..
[09:53] <fabbione> neuralis: there are also tons of libs that slurm uses.. they have the same issue
[09:54] <maswan> I got rather confused trying to read the torque license
[09:54] <fabbione> maswan: i don't remember testing torque.. neuralis did you?
[09:54] <neuralis> fabbione: no, there were reasons why we didn't look at it
[09:54] <fabbione> i don't remember tbh
[09:55] <neuralis> fabbione: i think it's very non-free
[09:55] <fabbione> ok
[09:55] <maswan> neuralis: I'm not so sure, acutally. There are a bunch of non-free clauses, but they were time-limited and expired in 2002 or something like that.
[09:56] <neuralis> maswan: i'll take a closer look, but i doubt we can do this in time for dapper.
[09:57] <neuralis> maswan: also, slurm seems to be a much more accepted solution, so i'd really rather that we get that in.
[09:57] <neuralis> maswan: the people who really need a resource manager on dapper are few enough that they probably don't mind deploying one by hand.
[09:58] <neuralis> fabbione: let's continue
[09:58] <fabbione> yup
[09:58] <neuralis> fabbione: drbd, ganglia, lvs?
[09:58] <fabbione> we can look at ganglia and lvs
[09:58] <fabbione> that's just question of promoting them to main
[09:59] <neuralis> right
[09:59] <fabbione> for drdb.. dunno.. we have plenty of these solutions already
[09:59] <neuralis> hmm. examples?
[09:59] <fabbione> aoe, gnbd, nbd...
[10:00] <fabbione> is there something really special about drdb that others don't have?
[10:01] <neuralis> nbd just lets you use a remote disk locally. isn't that correct?
[10:01] <fabbione> yes
[10:01] <fabbione> like aoe or gnbd
[10:02] <neuralis> fabbione: right. that's not what drbd is for.
[10:02] <fabbione> what does drdb does in short
[10:02] <fabbione> ?
[10:02] <neuralis> fabbione: drbd is network raid1. it gives you actual drive replication over the network.
[10:02] <neuralis> in realtime.
[10:03] <fabbione> ok
[10:03] <fabbione> than we want it
[10:03] <fabbione> is the code stable?
[10:03] <neuralis> it's not changing much, and it works solidly in heavy production.
[10:04] <fabbione> ok
[10:04] <fabbione> do you have an url handy?
[10:04] <neuralis> there is a kernel module component, obviously. is that a problem?
[10:04] <neuralis> http://drbd.org
[10:04] <fabbione> i might as well get it done today
[10:04] <fabbione> no
[10:04] <fabbione> well .. it depends of course on how intrusive this thing is
[10:05] <neuralis> it's relatively isolated, i believe.
[10:05] <fabbione> i will check
[10:05] <fabbione> now i am almost a git guru :)
[10:05] <neuralis> :-D
[10:06] <neuralis> it should, in theory, apply cleanly to .15.
[10:06] <fabbione> yeah
[10:06] <fabbione> we need to see if it works even if applied :)
[10:06] <neuralis> right.
[10:07] <fabbione> ok next..
[10:07] <fabbione> i guess there is no more for Cluster
[10:08] <neuralis> okay, will you pursue the promotion of keepalived, ipvsadm, ganglia, drbd0.7-utils to main?
[10:09] <fabbione> do we need keepalived?
[10:09] <fabbione> we didn't mention it in the spec
[10:09] <neuralis> fabbione: yes, we did; it's part of LVS
[10:09] <fabbione> oh right
[10:09] <fabbione> i missed the ()
[10:09] <neuralis> np
[10:10] <fabbione> i think i can manage to ask for promotion..
[10:10] <fabbione> i am sort of utterly overloaded
[10:10] <neuralis> do promotion reports need to be filed, or is it just a matter of asking?
[10:11] <fabbione> we need to fill the forms
[10:12] <neuralis> by when?
[10:12] <fabbione> there is no real deadline for it
[10:12] <fabbione> but it would be better if we can at least test the packages before we do so
[10:13] <neuralis> right. i'm almost totally unavailable until march; is there anyone else on the server team we can get to do the reports?
[10:13] <fabbione> <-
[10:14] <fabbione> or infinity
[10:14] <fabbione> well actually
[10:14] <fabbione> everybody can do the report
[10:15] <fabbione> but it would be better if that somebody is a known source and could test the pkgs as well
[10:15] <fabbione> it will spare pitti the time to review it again
[10:15] <neuralis> why don't we get one or two of the 12 ubuntu-server guys to write the reports, and you or infinity can test the packages
[10:16] <fabbione> we can try.. do you want to write a mail to -server asking for it?
[10:16] <neuralis> (have most of the ubuntu-server guys actually done something for ubuntu server? writing server specs or doing some actual ubuntu-server work should be a prerequisite for joining, i think.)
[10:16] <neuralis> fabbione: yes, i'll take care of it. if we don't hear back in a few days, i'll get back in touch with you about it.
[10:17] <fabbione> ok
[10:17] <neuralis> ok, shall we move on to server-candy?
[10:20] <fabbione> yup
[10:21] <neuralis> server test suite (really burn-in suite) on the cd. i think benc is assigned to work on this. do you know if there's been progress?
[10:21] <fabbione> no progress that i know of
[10:21] <fabbione> i think it was assigned to somebody else...
[10:21] <fabbione> anyway
[10:21] <fabbione> i doubt that will ever happen
[10:21] <neuralis> why's that?
[10:22] <fabbione> because i haven't seen progress so far
[10:22] <fabbione> and there isn't much time left for it
[10:22] <maswan> neuralis: Sure. slurm also seems much cleaner, torque has lots of cruft.
[10:23] <neuralis> maswan: yes.
[10:23] <fabbione> Third party software inclusion is like i said above
[10:24] <fabbione> we got a list that needs investigation
[10:24] <fabbione> together with mdy
[10:24] <fabbione> and packaging
[10:24] <neuralis> fabbione: hm. well, if we can include stress and iperf on the cd, writing a totally simple script to run them isn't a big deal.
[10:24] <neuralis> we can then build a real interface for dapper+1.
[10:24] <fabbione> neuralis: are they in main or universe?
[10:25] <neuralis> universe, we haven't needed them in main before.
[10:25] <fabbione> hmm ok
[10:25] <fabbione> that means that the machine can be stress tested only after installation
[10:26] <fabbione> ok let's keep this as a point..
[10:26] <neuralis> they're both tiny packages; do you think it'd be a problem to promote them to main?
[10:26] <fabbione> i don't think that's an issue
[10:26] <fabbione> i am more thinking of: "Hey i installed -server and the stress tools crash my box... wtf"
[10:27] <fabbione> it would be more useful to be able to test the box before
[10:27] <fabbione> like for instance.. from the live CD
[10:27] <neuralis> we were talking about having this on the -server install cd, no?
[10:27] <fabbione> yes
[10:27] <fabbione> we can ship them
[10:27] <neuralis> you should be able to hit F<something> on the install screen to drop into shell and launch a script that runs the burn-in suite
[10:28] <fabbione> yes but to run something that's in a .deb you need to install it first
[10:28] <fabbione> in d-i you need the udeb
[10:28] <fabbione> that's probably a day of work to get it done
[10:28] <neuralis> can we get that in for dapper?
[10:29] <fabbione> i dunno.. i don't think i will have the time
[10:29] <neuralis> sorry, let me just make sure i'm understanding this right
[10:29] <fabbione> sure..
[10:29] <neuralis> afaik, we already ship a recovery mode on the cd that drops us into the shell
[10:29] <fabbione> yes
[10:30] <neuralis> if we provide stress and iperf as simple binaries available from that shell, problem solved, no?
[10:30] <fabbione> but that assumes that your system is already installed with ubuntu
[10:30] <fabbione> my understanding was that the test suite should run before
[10:30] <neuralis> ah!
[10:30] <neuralis> i didn't know the recovery mode required an ubuntu installation; that's not how the debian cds work, i believe
[10:30] <fabbione> it's the same infrastructure
[10:30] <fabbione> well
[10:30] <fabbione> hold on
[10:31] <neuralis> sure.
[10:31] <fabbione> the recovery mode is able to mount /
[10:31] <fabbione> it doesn't check if it is Debian or Ubuntu or RedHat
[10:31] <fabbione> my problem is to ship the binaries in the rescue mode
[10:31] <maswan> but you can also get a shell without recovery mode, just a plain busybox shell without any mounted /
[10:31] <fabbione> maswan: that too
[10:32] <fabbione> that's why i am mentioning shipping the binaries in rescue mode
[10:32] <fabbione> they need to be available in d-i
[10:32] <neuralis> fabbione: okay, now we're on the same page. should i e-mail infinity or benc and see if they have the time to roll them into the appropriate udeb?
[10:32] <fabbione> works for me
[10:33] <fabbione> whatever doesn't involve me to add stuff to my TODO list is OK
[10:33] <neuralis> :) let's continue - 3rd party /vendor software inclusion. you have the list, how much do you think will get done?
[10:34] <fabbione> it depends from the licence of this stuff
[10:34] <fabbione> and how much mdy can convince vendors to allow us to redistribute
[10:34] <neuralis> okay. mdy is working on that, i assume? when do we expect to know?
[10:35] <fabbione> no idea
[10:35] <fabbione> he is in Japan or somewhere around there
[10:36] <neuralis> ah. okay, i'll ask about it again closer to the end of the month, or e-mail him.
[10:36] <fabbione> ok
[10:36] <fabbione> point him to the page on the wiki
[10:36] <fabbione> i am pretty sure i told him
[10:36] <neuralis> is there a separate page other than ServerCandy?
[10:36] <neuralis> yes, found it
[10:36] <fabbione> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerExtApps
[10:37] <neuralis> ok, moving on, central snakeoil stuff was worked on during the distrosprint, how far did we get there?
[10:37] <fabbione> we do have the basic ssl-cert infrastructure
[10:37] <fabbione> i already migrated a bunch of servers
[10:37] <fabbione> there are a few left
[10:37] <fabbione> that should be finished by end of next week
[10:37] <fabbione> infinity is to cleanup ssl-cert to be nicer
[10:38] <neuralis> sounds good. i'll ask again about details in ~10 days.
[10:38] <neuralis> md5 checker: still blocking on elmo/admins?
[10:39] <fabbione> yes
[10:39] <fabbione> the code is there and i tested it locally
[10:39] <fabbione> works for me
[10:39] <fabbione> that's all i know
[10:40] <fabbione>  /etc we already discussed
[10:40] <neuralis> should i ping the admins, and if so, who specifically?
[10:40] <fabbione> nah
[10:40] <fabbione> i am on their necks almost every day
[10:40] <fabbione> so is mdz
[10:40] <neuralis> ok, sounds good
[10:41] <neuralis> i think that's all. did we miss anything?
[10:41] <fabbione> so i think that generally we look good
[10:41] <neuralis> yes, we're in very good shape.
[10:41] <fabbione> seed management, but that's something that needs to be done step by step
[10:41] <fabbione> and we already discussed most of it already
[10:41] <fabbione> there is stuff i want to kick out of server cd
[10:41] <fabbione> and i am waiting for Kamion to merge the -server seeds into the standard branch
[10:42] <neuralis> right
[10:42] <fabbione> and that's about it i think
[10:43] <neuralis> great. thanks for your time! i'll send out the e-mails we talked about and follow up on loose ends later.
[10:43] <fabbione> perfect
[10:43] <fabbione> thanks to you
[10:44] <neuralis> sure. one final question -- are we planning to include the md5 checker in a special mode on the server cd? e.g. do you have an udeb ready, or are we taking a different approach?
[10:45] <fabbione> it's already integrated into rescue mode
[10:45] <neuralis> rock.
[10:45] <neuralis> okay, i have everything i need, and i'll talk to you soon. cheers.
[10:46] <neuralis> (4:45AM here, time to get some sleep.)
[10:46] <fabbione> night :)


[06:18] <AlbertA2> duflu: do you have permissions to add a commit message to this: https://code.launchpad.net/~vbocek/unity-system-compositor/fix-hammerhead-backlight/+merge/233572
[06:18] <AlbertA2> duflu: ?
[06:19] <AlbertA2> I can't add it...I'd like to start the silo build for it...so I Can test it in the morning...
[06:19] <AlbertA2> or RAOF: ^
[06:20] <duflu> AlbertA2: Apparently yes. Done
[06:20] <AlbertA2> duflu: thanks!
[06:21] <duflu> Huh. That explains why other people don't fix commit messages on reviews as much as I do
[06:21] <duflu> ... because they can't?
[06:22] <AlbertA2> well in mir mps I can...but I don't have permissions for unity-system-compositor
[06:25] <duflu> Curious
[13:03] <alf_> Saviq: kgunn: Hi! We would appreciate the unity8 perspective on https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/mir/drop-dead-internals/+merge/233487 (i.e. whether we think the removed functionality could be useful for unity8 in the future)
[13:03] <kgunn> dandrader: greyback__ mzanetti ^ if you have an opinion
[13:04] <mzanetti> really a question for greyback__...
[13:12] <dandrader> alf_, so it removes the in-process client feature?
[13:12] <alf_> dandrader: yes
[13:13] <dandrader> alf_, ok from my side. I don't see us wanting to use that.
[13:13] <alf_> dandrader: ack, thanks
[13:14] <dandrader> alf_, but would be good to check with greyback__ as well. maybe he thinks differently
[13:14] <alf_> dandrader: will do
[13:14] <alf_> greyback__: ^^
[13:24] <greyback__> sorry, just back from my run
[13:24] <greyback__> will look now
[16:39] <kgunn> robotfuel: hey, so duflu looked into this and says its media player and dbus...
[16:39] <kgunn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1354068
[16:39] <kgunn> do you know the project name for media player?
[16:40] <kgunn> was gonna retarget it
[16:40] <kgunn> racarr: ^ nvmd that unity8 crash i was suspecting might relate to surfaces
[16:42] <robotfuel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediaplayer-app
[16:42] <robotfuel> kgunn:
[16:42] <robotfuel> ^
[16:42] <kgunn> ah ta
[16:42] <racarr> kgunn: Yay! thanks
[20:15] <Tassadar> AlbertA: hey, saw that MP was merged and that it didn't have commit message?
[20:15] <Tassadar> what does that mean, it had one Oo
[20:15] <Tassadar> the one from this commit - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vbocek/unity-system-compositor/fix-hammerhead-backlight/revision/172
[20:15] <Tassadar> or do I have to enter it separately into launchpad?
[20:15] <AlbertA> Tassadar: we added one...
[20:16] <AlbertA> I just didn't have the perms so I had to ask duflu to do it for me...
[20:16] <Tassadar> I think it was showing the commit message from that commit I linked above in the "Commit Message" in that merge proposal Oo
[20:17] <Tassadar> just asking what did I do wrong so I can not repeat it later
[20:17] <AlbertA> oh the MP itself didn't not have a commit message
[20:17] <AlbertA> only a description
[20:18] <Tassadar> oh, right bzr squashes all the commits from the branch when merging, right?
[20:18] <AlbertA> right well launchpad yeah...
[20:19] <Tassadar> (that was not what I inteded to do)
[20:19] <Tassadar> I suppose the commit message for MP is under that more options/advanced section I didn't look into when creating the proposal?
[20:20] <AlbertA2> yeah
[20:20] <Tassadar> okay, thanks


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[05:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsimonq2 mitya57 acheronuk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3291 Diff missing (cosmic/analitza, cosmic/gcin, cosmic/hime, cosmic/kdeclarative, cosmic/kdelibs4support, cosmic/kwin, cosmic/kxmlgui, cosmic/maliit-framework, cosmic/plasma-integration, cosmic/pythonqt, cosmic/qqc2-desktop-style, cosmic/qt3d-opensource-src, cosmic/qtav, cosmic/qtcharts-opensource-src, cosmic/qtconnectivity-opensource-src, cosmic/qtcurve, cosmic/qtgraphicaleffects
[22:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsimonq2 mitya57 acheronuk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3291 Diff missing (cosmic/analitza, cosmic/fcitx-qt5, cosmic/gcin, cosmic/hime, cosmic/kdeclarative, cosmic/kdelibs4support, cosmic/kwin, cosmic/kxmlgui, cosmic/maliit-framework, cosmic/plasma-integration, cosmic/pythonqt, cosmic/qqc2-desktop-style, cosmic/qt3d-opensource-src, cosmic/qtav, cosmic/qtcharts-opensource-src, cosmic/qtconnectivity-opensource-src, cosmic/qtcurve, cosmic/
[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsimonq2 mitya57 acheronuk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3291 Currently building (cosmic/hedgewars). Diff missing (cosmic/analitza, cosmic/fcitx-qt5, cosmic/gcin, cosmic/hime, cosmic/kdeclarative, cosmic/kdelibs4support, cosmic/kwin, cosmic/kxmlgui, cosmic/maliit-framework, cosmic/plasma-integration, cosmic/pythonqt, cosmic/qqc2-desktop-style, cosmic/qt3d-opensource-src, cosmic/qtav, cosmic/qtcharts-opensource-src, cosmic/qtconnectivity-
[23:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsimonq2 mitya57 acheronuk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3291 Diff missing (cosmic/analitza, cosmic/fcitx-qt5, cosmic/gcin, cosmic/hime, cosmic/kdeclarative, cosmic/kdelibs4support, cosmic/kwin, cosmic/kxmlgui, cosmic/maliit-framework, cosmic/plasma-integration, cosmic/pythonqt, cosmic/qqc2-desktop-style, cosmic/qt3d-opensource-src, cosmic/qtav, cosmic/qtcharts-opensource-src, cosmic/qtconnectivity-opensource-src, cosmic/qtcurve, cosmic/