[00:00] <rebirth> is there a way to move a file to a directory you don't have permissions for without using the console?
[00:00] <erUSUL> rebirth: if you do not have permissions you can not
[00:00] <Danno> THanks bobo, what file system should I choose and what mount (mount something, I can't remember what it said. it offered things like / or /root etc etc.)
[00:00] <erUSUL> rebirth: and you shouldn't
[00:00] <Ken8521> rebirth, yes.. but it's not really a good diea
[00:01] <rebirth> i just need to move a plugin file into the tomboy notes plugins directory but i don't know how to move a file with the command line
[00:01] <prod-beginner> how do i finish the lspci -a command?
[00:02] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: iconfig -a
[00:02] <_Techie_> congratulations *buntu users, another PC shop has decided to offer boxes with *buntu pre installed
[00:02] <_Techie_> http://modster-pc.co.nz/
[00:02] <prod-beginner> being referedsorry
[00:02] <bazhang> _Techie_, no advertising here
[00:02] <prod-beginner> no still not there
[00:04] <prod-beginner> modprobe 8139too didnt help :S
[00:05] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: then try this « sudo modprobe 8139cp » then run « ifconfig -a »
[00:06] <prod-beginner> no, didnt work either
[00:06] <RealOpty> ok so i have a better question
[00:06] <erUSUL> prod-beginner: then the hardware is not what i thought it was
[00:06] <RealOpty> now that im using apt-proxy, how can i fix my machines to not keep a local cache?
[00:06] <prod-beginner> ok thanks very much for your help
[00:07] <prod-beginner> Kinda my fault for buyin the cheapest thing i could possibly find :)
[00:07] <prod-beginner> £6 was a bargain :D
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> prod-beginner: if you bought it recently and have the reciept. Take it back as it's not suitable for the task
[00:08] <`nullset> i currently cannot read korean characters that appear on the web etc.
[00:08] <`nullset> how do i remedy this?
[00:09] <androidbruce> hey guys my keyboard layout on my laptop has the left ctrl key stuck on compose and i can't change it. here is the image http://imgur.com/LMUVA.png
[00:09] <prod-beginner> possibly, is there a good way of identifying the card? maybe looking on google with the realtek chip name?
[00:09] <aeon-ltd> `nullset: install language packs?
[00:09] <`nullset> k ill try that
[00:09] <aeon-ltd> `nullset: is this firefox?
[00:09] <`nullset> yep
[00:10] <aeon-ltd> `nullset: they have their own lang. packs aswell
[00:10] <androidbruce> any ideas on how to get the keyboard mapping back to standard with my left ctrl key functioning as a ctrl key
[00:10] <psycho_oreos> prod-beginner, usually lspci -nn will give you a more definitive answer with vid:pid being visible.. but also check dmesg as to why 8139too didn't work (it would still be loaded, but probably won't function because of either invalid pci:id or some other error)
[00:11] <bobo123> Danno: well... you only need a "/" partition (Ext4), and a swap partition if you don't want to complicate things. there is a how-to-install-ubuntu10.04 guide with screenshots on http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-141550.shtml that might help
[00:12] <prod-beginner> its a RTL8139/810x family NIC. Just found a tiny slip at bottom of box
[00:12] <bobo123> Danno: (and remember to write my complete name here in irc if you want me to see your message)
[00:12] <linusoleander_> How do I set a variable in the console?
[00:12] <linusoleander_> I want the variable to be set thoure the hole console session in all consoles
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander_: export variable=value
[00:13] <psycho_oreos> prod-beginner, but that does not necessarily mean it is as such one, it might even be a clone or derivative of some sort
[00:13] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: add it to your ~/bashrc ? or ~/.profile
[00:13] <linusoleander_> ActionParsnip: I've tried that, but the varibale dont stick. I'm trying to the a variable in a seperate script
[00:13] <linusoleander_> erUSUL: No, it want it to be set dynamically
[00:13] <Smokebomb> anyone has ever tried this? http://bit.ly/9Oozzt
[00:14] <Smokebomb> i can't get it working on ubuntu 10.04 :(
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander_: you can add it in ~/.bashrc  and it will apply to all consoles
[00:14] <prod-beginner> ok thanx for your help then
[00:14] <linusoleander_> ActionParsnip: Okey, but then I need to remove it after the console is closed
[00:15] <linusoleander_> That seams like a bad idea
[00:15] <aeon-ltd> linusoleander_: create a second launcher with 'terminalofchoice -e 'export variable=value' maybe?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander_: you can use the same export command in bash scripts if you like
[00:15] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: if you export it in a bash session it will be only inherited by that bash child shells.
[00:16] <linusoleander_> erUSUL: Okey, that is the problem. I need to set a temp variable that only works in the current console session
[00:16] <linusoleander_> Is there any other way?
[00:16] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: do not export it
[00:17] <linusoleander_> erUSUL: Same thing, the variable does not stick, after the script is done the variable unsets it self
[00:17] <Smokebomb> linusoleander_:  it is that way
[00:17] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: the script runs in a child shell; if you weant the variable to stick source the script instead of running it
[00:17] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: the script runs in a child shell; if you want the variable to stick; source the script instead of running it
[00:18] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: « help source »
[00:18] <linusoleander_> erUSUL: Cool, I can load an external file with the variables in it, then run source on it
[00:19] <linusoleander_> Thanks!
[00:19] <erUSUL> linusoleander_: no problem.
[00:25] <zenwryly> I have an ubuntu server xen guest and when a linux-kernel package is updated update-grub doesn't seem to be run.  How can I make this run?
[00:25] <nikitis> How do I install sun-java6-plugin ?   Doesn't seem to be in the repository anymore.
[00:26] <LjL> nikitis: i think it's in the partner repos these days, they have to be enabled manually
[00:26] <LjL> !partner | nikitis
[00:26] <houdini1> How can I create home directory for user www-data?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> houdini1: it's home is /var/www:
[00:29] <nikitis> LjL, Thanks
[00:31] <usacomputertec> anyone know how to enable HTML / Pictures in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[00:31] <houdini1> ActionParsnip: will it understant .bashrc file in /var/www?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> zenwryly: sudo update-grub
[00:31] <x0rs> Anyone know of a good irc chat room dedicate to linux security?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> houdini1: not sure, i've never logged in as the user
[00:31] <Chaos2358> are there any chat rooms here where some may be able to give me help rooting a gps unit?
[00:31] <Latrinox> houdini1: No
[00:31] <zenwryly> ActionParsnip: I want it to happen automatically when apt is run the same way it does on my desktop ubuntu machines
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: #hardware maybe
[00:32] <Chaos2358> thanx
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> zenwryly: sounds like a bug to me
[00:32] <houdini1> Latrinox: I have to pass parameter RUBYOPT='-Ku' into nginx config. Nginx confid doesn't understant it, so I thinkg to write it in .bashrc. But why no?
[00:32] <usacomputertec> I can't view HTML e-mails in mozilla thunderbird
[00:32] <usacomputertec> can anyone help?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> zenwryly: with grub-pc   you could try reinstalling the package
[00:32] <aeon-ltd> x0rs: depends, security depends heavily on what software you use and the user
[00:33] <Chaos2358> ActionParsnip there is no #hardware
[00:33] <Latrinox> houdini1: Lol! EOF
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Chaos2358: ##hardware
[00:33] <houdini1> Latrinox: what do you mean?
[00:33] <Latrinox> Kids today :)
[00:34] <zenwryly> ActionParsnip: good idea, thanks
[00:34] <x0rs> aeon-ltd: I use ubuntu of course, and I am interested in all types of security: linux, windows, mobile security, etc...
[00:34] <aeon-ltd> x0rs: theres a #backtrack room for penetration testing
[00:35] <x0rs> aeon-ltd: oh excellent, thanks very much
[00:35] <Latrinox> x0rs: Microsoft, go somewhere cool. By heart.
[00:35] <x0rs> Latrinox: I don't think I follow.
[00:36] <Latrinox> x0rs: Find you will
[00:36] <sg> Hi there. I have a PHP question and hope somebody can help me. Do you know a function to get a value of an array by giving a key? The same as $array[$key] does, but also works on directly returned arrays without a symbol name...
[00:36] <Ubuntu43243> I broke my grub startup after installing windows in a primary partition. What could I do in order to get the boot loader working again without reinstalling ubuntu?
[00:36] <Ken8521> !grub | Ubuntu43243
[00:37] <Latrinox> Ubuntu43243: Boot in rescue mode, reinstall grub
[00:37] <bazhang> x0rs, its #backtrack-linux
[00:37] <Ubuntu43243> Latrinox: but doesn't the rescue mode reinstall anything other than grub?
[00:37] <bazhang> Ubuntu43243, which version of ubuntu
[00:37] <x0rs> bazhang: excellent, thank you
[00:37] <Ubuntu43243> karmic
[00:38] <Latrinox> Ubuntu43243: Nope, boot the dist, mount it and chroot to it then run grub-install
[00:38] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 Ubuntu43243 grub2 not grub
[00:38] <ExOgRoOvE> Un SaLuto A TuTti Voi AmIcI Di »™ #ubuntu  #ubuntu  #ubuntu ™
[00:38] <Latrinox> x0rs: Too many microsoft employees here
[00:38] <Ubuntu43243> Latrinox: thank you, I will do that ASAP :)
[00:39] <Latrinox> Np
[00:40] <Latrinox> Microsoft - The world has not seen a more gay company of misfits :)
[00:41] <Chaos2358> someone tell me what it means when it tells me i need to be identified with services when i try to join a room
[00:41] <Latrinox> Take it in the blowhole sir pommeroy :P
[00:41] <bobo123> Latrinox: g*y as in "happy", "homosexual", or "lame/stupid" ?
[00:41] <Ken8521> !register Chaos2358
[00:41] <bazhang> Latrinox, stop that
[00:41] <Latrinox> bobo123: Garbage
[00:42] <Ken8521> !register | Chaos2358
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> !ot | Latrinox
[00:42] <hotis> download list
[00:43] <fordfasterr> VSFTPD:   I can access and use the ftp server via IP address, but if I try to connect via a hostname (that works on the same machine's web server) It won't authenticate a known user.
[00:43] <fordfasterr> any ideas how to get it to work via hostnames too?
[00:43] <owner> should my computer have two loaders? windows 7 loader and windows vista loader
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> fordfasterr: if you add the resolution in /etc/hosts  does it work?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> owner: i'd ask in ##windows
[00:45] <pincopallino> !list
[00:46] <hadesdf> #brasil
[00:46] <sunlover> need your help to figure out , how to install graphics driver on sony desktop
[00:47] <owner> with dual systems (ubuntu and windows 7 ) should GNU grub be the boot loader?
[00:47] <sunlover> i got intel motherboard with build in graphics card. 845G, but i could not run 10.04 on good resolution
[00:47] <SpiderFred> is it possible to change desktop environment from gnome to xfce without fucking it all up?
[00:47] <Ken8521> owner, no, the boot loader is called Grub2
[00:48] <Ken8521> SpiderFred, i get annoyed cuz it always mixes all kind of crap in w/ my menus... if i could keep them separate, i have some other GUI's i'd like to try
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> owner: it's advised as grub is more flxible than microsofts thing
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> sunlover: sure, intel vga is supported well in linux
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> sunlover: you may need this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[00:51] <sunlover> ActionParsnip: i got 800x600 without any problem, how it can be improve and switch to 1028 x 768 which is supported by monitor being used?
[00:51] <owner> after installing ubuntu ..  windows 7 loader failed to start
[00:51] <blind> neither wicd or network-manager will give me wireless signal percentage, and conky won't either.. I'm running karmic and my netbook has a broadcom 4312 wireless card
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> sunlover: you may need an xorg.conf file to get higher but I'd check the link
[00:51] <mcs10usd> hi, is this the correct channel for getting help about java rmi
[00:51] <mcs10usd> if not plz advice how to goto that channel
[00:51] <hotis> list of channels
[00:52] <Somelauw> I can't find smalltalk in the SC.
[00:52] <Gnea> !java
[00:52] <S0lder> Hello. I have a problem. Whenever I load Ubuntu it fails to load the close, minimize, and maximize buttons and the title banner. Can anyone help me with this problem?
[00:52] <Gnea> mcs10usd: #java perhaps
[00:52] <sunlover> currently looks like generic driver is being used.
[00:52] <coz_> mcs10usd,  there is a #java channel  just type   /join #java
[00:52] <mcs10usd> #java
[00:52] <sunlover> let me check the link
[00:52] <Somelauw> mcs10usd: /j #java
[00:53] <bastidrazor> blind: install netspeed then 'add to panel' on the gnome panel and select network monitor
[00:53] <fordfasterr> let me try that. ..
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: it's called the windows decorator
[00:53] <mcs10usd> guys i just tried what you says but it says that channel is invite only
[00:53] <S0lder> ok
[00:53] <Latrinox> owner: Windoes has always just overwritren any other bootloader. Its like a virus. With gnu/linux you even get to decide (As an opposing factor to the microsft monopoly) where its custon to try to overwrite any other operating system not owned by billhomogates :)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: press ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[00:53] <blind> bastidrazor: I don't have gnome-panel..
[00:53] <bastidrazor> blind: you need to know what interface your wireless is... wlan0 is the usual interface
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: do you use an nvidia graphic chip?
[00:53] <S0lder> I've tried that. when i log back in it fails again.
[00:53] <blind> bastidrazor: it's eth2
[00:54] <S0lder> no
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: hmm
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: it's common with some nvidia chips
[00:54] <andril> coz_, what's good
[00:54] <S0lder> is it fixable
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> S0lder: i'd websearch for: ubuntu missing window decorator <your video chip>
[00:55] <bastidrazor> blind: in conky use: ${wireless_bitrate eth2}
[00:55] <S0lder> ok
[00:55] <S0lder> thanks
[00:56] <perlsyntax> how can i gt netbans to run as root when i want to work on raw sockets?
[00:56] <coz_> andril,   sorry did I type your nick?  apologies
[00:56] <andril> coz_, nope just saw you log in say hey
[00:56] <blind> bastidrazor: blank
[00:56] <perlsyntax> ?
[00:56] <coz_> andril,   oh ok :)
[00:56] <perlsyntax> it will not let me sudo netbeans
[00:57] <bobo123> perlsyntax: perhaps you can go root completly with    sudo su -
[00:57] <perlsyntax> anyone
[00:58] <Latrinox> S0lder: xdpyinfo | grep -i dri && echo "Ok, ive got Direct Rendering"
[00:58] <perlsyntax> you mean sudo su?
[00:58] <bastidrazor> blind: ifconfig shows wireless as eth2?
[00:58] <blind> bastidrazor: yes. crazy i know
[00:59] <blind> nm and wicd give me ??%
[00:59] <restorer> I'm having trouble getting the function key on my compact wired Apple keyboard to work, has anyone had any experience with that?
[00:59] <blind> conky gives me NaN%
[00:59] <restorer> It worked great on my (now dead) fullsize Apple keyboard.
[00:59] <Somelauw> How to install smalltalk?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> restorer: if you run: xev   do they make events?
[00:59] <perlsyntax> i try that it will not work.it telling me to install netbeans from apt-get.
[00:59] <bastidrazor> blind: you have nm-applet and wicd installed at the same time? i thought that wasn't possible?
[01:00] <blind> well currently im using wicd
[01:00] <blind> but i was experiencing the same problem with nm-applet
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> blind: wicd is sweeeeeeet :)
[01:00] <perlsyntax> bobo123 any ideas?
[01:00] <andril> coz_, kinda got it working http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6920525/Screenshots/100210.png
[01:00] <restorer> ActionParsnip: sorry, I was a little unclear - my problem is with the 'fn' key that changes the function of the F1-F12 keys to media actions like changing the volume
[01:00] <blind> ActionParsnip: it's alright.. the icon is ugly :P
[01:00] <restorer> ActionParsnip: the fn key itself doesn't make an action on either keyboard
[01:00] <bobo123> perlsyntax: nope. I haven't used netbeans, or raw sockets.
[01:01] <perlsyntax> why that
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> blind: i find it more flexible
[01:01] <coz_> andril,  oh the conky?
[01:01] <restorer> ActionParsnip: the function keys make normal function key events whether or not I press the fn key
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> restorer: do they make different events though?
[01:01] <andril> coz_, yeah just got to get it with more attributes
[01:02] <coz_> andril,   very cool... I may have to play with conky at some point myself :)
[01:02] <restorer> ActionParsnip: on the fullsize keyboard, with the fn key pressed, the function keys cause xev to display something different from a normal key event
[01:02] <coz_> andril,   also nice purple wallpaper.... one of my favorte colors
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> restorer: ok thats good
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | restorer
[01:02] <Somelauw> What's the difference between packages and repositories?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: packages are used to install apps and are downloaded FROM repositories (repos, for short)
[01:04] <LjL> Somelauw: repositories contain packages
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> restorer: click on the thing you want to assign the item to and press the key combo
[01:04] <charles___> anyone know how to resolve this?   apt-get install apache2 gives:  "apache2 depends on apache2.2-common (= 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2); however:   Package apache2.2-common is not configured yet."
[01:04] <restorer> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll look at keytouch. As for Keyboard Shortcuts, I'd rather not completely override my function keys - on the new keyboard, holding the fn key doesn't change the keycode from the function keys.
[01:04] <charles___> I already have it installed, but I am trying to upgrade and getting that
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> charles___: you need to install apache2.2-common
[01:06] <fordfasterr> strange... i can't restart the hostname service
[01:06] <Kzfeddf> i have an odd problem. One of my laptops keys is working intermittently. I checked the key - the hardware is fine. It works for a while, and the time is not consistent, but then it refuses to work with anything other than gnome-do, forcing me to restart to get it to work again
[01:06] <Somelauw> For software sources. Do you have enabled archive.canonical.com? Is it a wise thing to do that? What software does it contain?
[01:06] <hidekazu2> Bethy ?
[01:06] <Kzfeddf> any ideas?
[01:07] <hidekazu2> Are you there ?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Kzfeddf: when it fails, run:  dmesg | tail    see if the kernel did anything
[01:09] <restorer> mmm, nope, keytouch doesn't support Apple keyboard, apparently
[01:10] <restorer> the way these keyboard seem to work, I doubt I could create a definition for it eithr
[01:10] <Kzfeddf> ActionParsnip: k
[01:10] <Latrinox> It works for a while, and the time is not consistent. Is it skipping ? :)
[01:11] <Kzfeddf> Latrinox: no. It just, sometimes ill restart and its gone in 10 mins
[01:11] <Kzfeddf> other times it'll work for hours
[01:12] <Latrinox> Kzfeddf: I just sometimes think perhaps and then whatnot so. :)
[01:12] <Kzfeddf> i dont think its the switch cause it continues to work with Do, and i checked underneath, there's no obstruction
[01:12] <hidekazu2> Anybody seen Bethy ?
[01:13] <ulszz> i am making a simple server/client application. i send a packet that has a 3 byte header and my data i want to write to a file following. is there some c string function that can strip the header from the data? or how could i do that by hand
[01:13]  * Latrinox goes Obiwan with the master sword.
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[01:22] <LjL> aeon-ltd: various people have complained. i think i'd rather have it kept to a minimum, even though i believe the captcha thing is effective to let everyone legitimate through
[01:24] <cyberfingers> I'm getting a gcc error when I try and install any suggestions how to resolve problem? http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=zGYS6ign
[01:25] <restorer> Oh, apparently it's fixed in 9.10. (I'm still on 9.04 for various reasons)
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: isn't that the main server? Should be fine
[01:27] <restorer> so, should I upgrade just to 9.10, or all the way to 10.04 - and how should I go about doing it for the least hassle?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> restorer: well jaunty dies next month so at least 9.10
[01:28] <restorer> ah
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> restorer: 10.04 is LTS and supported for longer
[01:28] <restorer> I'll have to look into it
[01:28] <restorer> the last time I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, it screwed so many things up
[01:29] <kubuntu1010> so if I have a smb server do I need to set up nfs on that server too to view stuff under *nix or is there a smb share viewer, in a way to that is similar to vncviewer? Does that make sense?
[01:29] <Votan> Hey, is laptop-mode or generally the package laptop-mode-tools still recommended in 10.04+ ?
[01:31] <restorer> sigh... my computer desperately needs a total upgrade
[01:31] <restorer> in hardware, that is
[01:31] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: On the smb server, can't you view the files without smb?
[01:31] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: since it should be the place where the files are hosted
[01:31] <ElCerebr0> restorer what are your specs just curious
[01:31] <kubuntu1010> tensorpudding: no i mean from another nix box
[01:32] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: no, there are smb clients for linux
[01:32] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: if the client machine runs gnome, you can do Places -> Connect to Server...
[01:32] <kubuntu1010> tensorpudding: ok so it would nt be redundant to setup smb and nfs?
[01:33] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: if it just has a CLI, you can use the smbclient program
[01:33] <restorer> ElCerebr0: Opteron 144 overclocked to 2.4 GHz, 1 GB memory, 250 GB SATA HD, nVidia GeForce 7900 GS
[01:33] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: Not necessarily. NFS is faster and more native, but also a royal pain to configure.
[01:33] <restorer> ElCerebr0: built it about 5 years ago
[01:34] <restorer> ElCerebr0: upgraded the video card 3 years ago
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[01:34] <kubuntu1010> tensorpudding: is there nfs clients for windows?
[01:34] <tensorpudding> kubuntu1010: Yes, but I believe only available in a few versions
[01:34]  * spinningcompass blinks
[01:35] <Somelauw> I still can't find snu-smalltalk in the sources. I don't even see the effect of enabling those sources.
[01:35] <kubuntu1010> tensorpudding: ok thanks
[01:35] <sharperguy> !ops
[01:35] <bazhang> sharperguy, ?
[01:35] <LjL> sharperguy: bots have done just about all there is to do to counter that
[01:35] <sharperguy> oh sorry
[01:35] <coz_> mm why do I get pinged when !ops is called on?
[01:36] <sharperguy> My internet lagged and I missed it...
[01:36] <IdleOne> coz_: the spambots are also highlighting random nicks in the channel
[01:36] <LjL> coz_: are you sure it's !ops and not the fact that the spammer mentioned your nickname?
[01:36] <auscompgeek> I have ! ops on my stalk list... :/
[01:36] <coz_> LjL,  well there is no reason to mention my name there
[01:36] <IdleOne> coz_: they are spam bots
[01:37] <IdleOne> they don't care
[01:37] <LjL> coz_: sure there is, if you're a spammer
[01:37] <IdleOne> I suppose you could ask the spammers to be less spammy with your nick
[01:37] <coz_> LjL,   thats my point... I am not
[01:38] <LjL> coz_: ... not you. the spammers. they have highlighted random people, including you.
[01:38] <ssn> hi
[01:39] <coz_> LjL,  ah I see
[01:39] <sweetpi> Dear spammers, please stop using my nick in your messages. It would be much appreciated. Love, sweetpi xoxoxo
[01:39] <ssn> i installed ubuntu with the mini.iso and selected the "custom" initrd. now remastersys does not make a bootable version of the ubuntu installation, so id like to go back to a generic initrd, how do i do this?
[01:39] <electrofreak> wtf was that spam/flood bot??
[01:40] <IdleOne> electrofreak: yes
[01:40] <electrofreak> fun
[01:40] <serit> who what was fun!!!
[01:41] <ElCerebr0> .
[01:42] <serit> who that* was fun!!!
[01:42] <IdleOne> !ot | serit
[01:43] <ssn> i installed ubuntu with the mini.iso and selected the "custom" initrd. now remastersys does not make a bootable version of the ubuntu installation, so id like to go back to a generic initrd, how do i do this?
[01:43] <serit> IdleOne: UNREGGED sent me here
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> ssn: just reinstall would be my suggestion
[01:44] <IdleOne> serit: that is fine, please remember to stay on topic in this channel.
[01:44] <serit> IdleOne: hence my coffin
[01:44] <androidbruce> i just did a fresh install and now when i boot it says error:file not found grub rescue>
[01:44] <androidbruce> what do i do?
[01:46] <serit> so when should I upgrade to the latest ubuntu so root is NOT compromised
[01:46] <Datz> Hi, how do I reset my panel defaults, volume control always disappears
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanels
[01:46] <Datz> thanks ActionParsnip
[01:47] <androidbruce> can anyone help with a boot error?
[01:48] <electrofreak> androidbruce, is this your first boot?
[01:48] <Datz> ActionParsnip: it disappears every boot, how can I keep that control without running that command everytime?
[01:48] <androidbruce> electrofreak, yeah
[01:48] <androidbruce> i just installed electrofreak
[01:48] <androidbruce> i tried to specify partitions
[01:48] <bazhang> androidbruce, maverick?
[01:48] <electrofreak> that's odd... first boot should work
[01:48] <androidbruce> bazhang, yes but no one in ubuntu+1 is helping
[01:48] <bazhang> androidbruce, then be patient
[01:49] <androidbruce> this isn't maverick related though
[01:49] <electrofreak> so, is it a nightly build?
[01:49] <androidbruce> this is a grub issue
[01:49] <serit> IdleOne:root problem is fixed?
[01:49] <IdleOne> serit: I have no root problem
[01:49] <bazhang> androidbruce, it is a maverick issue if you're running maverick
[01:49] <IdleOne> serit: neither does Ubuntu
[01:49] <androidbruce> bazhang, im not running anything
[01:50] <androidbruce> lol
[01:50] <androidbruce> im stuck w/o a bootloader
[01:50] <bazhang> androidbruce, its still #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <androidbruce> bazhang, lets pretend its lucid
[01:50] <androidbruce> how do i fix a grub error
[01:50] <electrofreak> androidbruce, if grub is the one complaining, then you have a boot loader. something might be miss-configured though...
[01:50] <bazhang> androidbruce, no, please in #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <androidbruce> electrofreak, well sure how do i reconfigure grub
[01:50] <IdleOne> androidbruce: lets pretend you are going to follow channel policy.
[01:50] <androidbruce> IdleOne, ok ok ok
[01:50] <androidbruce> is there a grub channel?
[01:51] <IdleOne> #grub
[01:51] <electrofreak> androidbruce, well, you'd have to figure out what the config problem is (might be unable to find the kernel, I don't know...) and fix it in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[01:51] <Datz> yes, but it is about fishing lures
[01:51] <electrofreak> lol
[01:51] <Datz> or else they were tricking me
[01:51] <Datz> j/k btw :p
[01:52] <ssn> i installed ubuntu using the mini.iso and selected the "custom" initrd. now remastersys does not make a bootable version of the ubuntu installation, so id like to go back to a generic initrd, how do i do this without reinstalling?
[01:56] <djbeenie> anyone know why my desktop items ..screens, apps get saved when i log off ubuntu?  I would not like this function
[01:57] <djbeenie> i would like my desktop refreshed everytime i log on
[01:58] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> Anyone know how to save a file to a floppy disk through ubuntu 10.4.1?
[01:59] <scifiguy_> how can i get a list of files on a partition that do not belong to a package?
[01:59] <sweetpi> djbeenie: I think its something like "auto save session" under session and startup settings
[02:00] <kubuntu1010> can someone tell whats the status of the open-source broadcom driver? in ubuntu 10.10 will it be enabled by default?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> scifiguy_: thats gonna be some fancy bash work, i'd ask in #bash
[02:00] <kubuntu1010> I read it is not finished yet
[02:01] <demonspork> scifiguy_, it would start with using dpkg to list all packages, but from there it gets into some fancy bash scripting
[02:04] <kubuntu1010> how can you tell copy from the nix putty client?
[02:04] <kubuntu1010> -tell
[02:05] <Datz> does anyone know why my panel volume control would be disappearing every boot, and then not show up in the options unless I run: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel    ??
[02:06] <perlsyntax> can i use pcap for raw socket in netbeans is that a safe way to do it?
[02:06] <perlsyntax> :)
[02:06] <perlsyntax> i hope someone nows.
[02:06] <perlsyntax> knows.
[02:07] <bastidrazor> perlsyntax: wouldn't ##java be a better place to ask?
[02:07] <perlsyntax> ?
[02:07] <perlsyntax> i useing C
[02:08] <bastidrazor> perlsyntax: then in ##c
[02:08] <perlsyntax> this room is a joke.
[02:09] <Somelauw> perl :')
[02:09] <fluvvell> perlysyntax: this room is for support of ubuntu users, it does that job pretty well.
[02:09] <mccrase901> hello, so, i need some help with my sound. the other day my mic wasn't working and i found a website saying that switching to OSS would help, but i messed up somewhere between removing ALSA and installing OSS. does anyone have experience here?
[02:09] <fluvvell> missed.
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: is the system a laptop?
[02:10] <mccrase901> yes
[02:10] <mccrase901> acer aspire 6530
[02:10] <mccrase901> ubuntu 10.04
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: have you tried adding the model=acer option in a file in /etc/modprobe.d ?
[02:10] <mccrase901> nope
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> let me see what I can find
[02:11] <mccrase901> i don't see that file
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: if you run: alsamixer   is the mic muted?
[02:12] <mode777> hey
[02:12] <mccrase901> alsamixer doesn't come up
[02:12] <nozes> oie
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: if you run:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: add this line:  options snd-hda-intel model=acer   save the new file and close gedit and reboot
[02:15] <mccrase901> i have an amd
[02:15] <mccrase901> should i change intel to amd?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: no, the model of the laptop is an acer.....
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> mccrase901: the sound chip willmore than likely be some intel thing. You can check with: sudo lshw -C sound
[02:16] <mccrase901> ok, just checking
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/280644  is what you are hit by mccrase901
[02:17] <mccrase901> ok, i'll reboot and brb
[02:19] <mccrase90> ok, but also i messed somethin else up, under sound preferences, there is no hardware listed
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mccrase90: the remove the line
[02:20] <mccrase90> ok
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mccrase90: i'd suggest you read the bug
[02:24] <Guest26394> can anyone help a new user with an error when attempting to install macbunut?
[02:25] <decapod> ...
[02:25] <decapod> so...
[02:25] <blind> I have no sound and there's no reason why.. nothing is muted, nothing is running, i restarted alsa.. i dont know what else to do. it was working before a reboot
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest26394: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Macbuntu?content=129021
[02:26] <decapod> WHAT THE HELL DUDE?!  He looks all washed up because he is. His wife left him because he can't get off irc. LMAO  Dominion Kerrick rb_skyther PerfecT459159 andrewl askhl gaurang shro0ms jsurfer blind smoo mccrase90 john__ SolidLiq izinucs arinya meh3 DaysOfRhythm nozes [daemon] __cool__ Ubuntu kaolbrec billy Matic`Makovec russjr08 whm_sysu MetaBot Blackguard juxta nikolam Vibedigital Ramza LaithBSoul-kun i
[02:30]  * izinucs hears the howl of halloween coming
[02:30] <blind> ActionParsnip: no luck
[02:31] <Ken8521> these flooders have gotten clever
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> blind: you could try upgrading to 1.0.23
[02:31] <MrKeuner> help
[02:31] <MrKeuner> !help
[02:32] <blind> ActionParsnip: pulseaudio?
[02:32] <dave__> i am trying to install macbuntu and i get an eror saying i must have root privileges to be able to install - i am not sure what I need to do
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> blind: yes, its default i ubuntu
[02:32] <kubuntu1010> Broadcom 43xx driver (dmesg) how can I configure it?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> dave__: run whatever it is with sudo
[02:32] <izinucs> dave sudo <previous command>
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | kubuntu1010
[02:33] <kubuntu1010> Broadcom 43xx driver loaded sorry
[02:33] <dave__> yes i put sudo at the front but it still gives this error
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> dave__: try: sudo -i   then run it without sudo
[02:34] <kubuntu1010> ActionParsnip: is this not the opensource version since I am running 10.10?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> kubuntu1010: then your support isnt here, it's in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <dave__> hmm that didnt help either ActionParsnip
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> dave__: thats how you get the access you need dude
[02:36] <kubuntu1010> ActionParsnip: ok sorry, but should nt I be able to set it up sudo ifconfig wlan0 up?
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> kubuntu1010: possibly
[02:37] <dave__> hmm  perhaps this is because i am trynig to install on Ubuntu 10.10 - the install script originally said the version was not supproted when i tried to run it
[02:37] <dave__> it suggestd adding "force" to the end
[02:37] <dave__> then I get this permissions error
[02:37] <dave__> maybe it is a red-herring
[02:37] <kubuntu1010> ActionParsnip: Well I might just have to install the STA driver, but what I am lost about is how to tell if it something it loaded and working now
[02:38] <kubuntu1010> ^&*^)(*&&&&&
[02:39] <toehio2> I get the following error when mounting an accidentally disconnected external HDD: "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: [...]". The only solution I could find on the forums is to use chkdsk from MS Windows, which I don't have access to. Is there any other way?
[02:39] <navetz> can someone tell me how I can dpkg-reconfigure my xorg. I tried to install some propritary ati drivers but everything broke
[02:43] <lukosanthropos> @love
[02:43] <lukosanthropos> !love
[02:44] <etrnl> so I installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't get flash support in epiphany, is there something else I need to do?
[02:45] <rooks> relogin/update paths i guess
[02:49] <edbian> etrnl, Make sure that you only have 1 flash plugin installed.  Additionally, restart epiphany.  I am not aware of any thing you have to differently for one browser or another.
[02:51] <Tweaky> how do i find out what /dev/ my dvd drive is?
[02:52] <bastidrazor> Tweaky: it normally is /dev/sr0  or /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdrom0
[02:52] <Blue1> Tweaky: usually /dev/sr0
[02:52] <enbloc> anyone here using etckeeper with git?
[02:52] <rooks> Tweaky, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
[02:53] <enbloc> I'm able to see logs with git log, but I can't look at diffs between revisions
[02:54] <Tweaky> thanks bastidrazor Blue1 rooks
[02:55] <Guest26463> Hi, can someone please explain the difference in function between the "Tor proxy" and Privoxy?
[02:55] <Guest26463> I understand the basics of Tor onion routing, but I can't figure out what Privoxy adds to the equation.
[02:56] <E1we11> !ops Giovanni Chiazzese, http://oi56.tinypic.com/rsy88m.jpg, aka IdleOne. He looks all washed up because he is. His wife left him because he can't get off irc. LMAO  E1we11 ssn_ Guest26463 enbloc Blue1 magic_ninja420 alexaraujo shro0ms helper sotapanna Vampire0 xiong Arsic jskaller ericm|ubuntu h00p solid_liq U_buntu alrekur u|core kthomas_vh BlackRetina MrKeuner Kerrick PerfecT459159 andrewl askhl jsurfer mccrase90 john__ izinucs arinya
[02:56] <E1we11> !ops Giovanni Chiazzese, http://oi56.tinypic.com/rsy88m.jpg, aka IdleOne. He looks all washed up because he is. His wife left him because he can't get off irc. LMAO  blueghost antIP Tweaky con-man Enissay jtokarchuk eledesmar JohnnyDavidson WindPower_ Daniel Cpudan80 flashkidd vergil PewZ sweetpi electrofreak roche cyberfingers Sunderphon freelancer317 Ejdesgaard_ jrolland-ubuntu Ken8521 Guest61825 david_ alpharesearch messi hackmyd Call
[02:56] <E1we11> !ops Giovanni Chiazzese, http://oi56.tinypic.com/rsy88m.jpg, aka IdleOne. He looks all washed up because he is. His wife left him because he can't get off irc. LMAO  DavidLevin ^slacker^ jorik jexmex dios_mio CyberSix ubuntu1010server millertimek1a2m3 Foxxer funnylookinhat KabukiOrigin ring1 x0rs rebirth talas jiga zack_ o0ze_ Sergeant_Pony rifter finalbeta_ stamina__ stamina_ laptopfreek0 cdavis etrnl BiggFREE Phoochka spinningcompass j
[02:56] <tensorpudding> Tor is an anonymizing network, you connect to a server in the network and it comes out at some exit node
[02:56] <tensorpudding> Privoxy is just an HTTP proxy
[02:57] <Guest26463> tensorpudding, So, e.g., outgoing traffic goes Me -> Privoxy proxy -> Tor entrance node?
[02:57] <tensorpudding> You want to use Privoxy with Tor?
[02:57] <Guest26463> tensorpudding, That's what seems to be recommended in all of the Tor setup docs i've read
[02:58] <tensorpudding> Privoxy can do lots of useful things, like stripping out ads
[02:58] <Guest26463> tensorpudding, And torproject.org bundles them together
[02:58] <quiescens> tor just does the onion routing to mask the source of a connection, privoxy additionally (optionally) masks things like referer, cookies, useragent etc
[02:58] <tensorpudding> it essentially allows you to filter HTTP content, as well as providing a proxying effect
[02:58] <Guest26463> quiescens, Ah, that makes sense. I see why that would be useful for anonymity.
[02:59] <tensorpudding> So they ultimately do "proxying" in the sense of sending your HTTP traffice through an intermediary server, but they do it in vastly different ways
[03:00] <chod> anyone awake?
[03:01] <tensorpudding> hello
[03:01] <chod> nod
[03:01] <extraclassic> when I used tor I'd try to go to google.com, and it'd send me to google.de or google.co.uk half the time
[03:01] <Guest26463> tensorpudding, Here's an unrelated question that might pertain to Privoxy.. Do you know of a good way to set up my own HTTP proxy such that my proxy can apply changes to pages as it goes through the proxy, similar to greasemonkey? I have a network and would like to apply greasemonkey-style changes for everyone on the network who requests a certain page, regardless of their OS/browser setup.
[03:02] <chod> teh tor effort here dont install via synaptic
[03:02] <RichardBLand> hello all :D
[03:02] <chod> is there a new 'nice' build
[03:02] <upsuper> hello everyone~
[03:02]  * chod jigs
[03:02]  * spinningcompass jogs
[03:02] <chod> :D
[03:02] <upsuper> I met a bug yesterday when I install Ubuntu 10.10 RC
[03:03] <chod> what did teh bug say
[03:03] <tensorpudding> Guest26463: I don't know exactly how Privoxy works, but it might be able to do that.
[03:03] <upsuper> I used UNetBootin to put the installer ISO into my flash drive
[03:03]  * chod nods
[03:04] <upsuper> and when I was installing, I found that, the installer thought my flash drive as sda, and my hard drive as sdb
[03:04] <upsuper> and write it to the fstab
[03:04] <soadfreak15> hello
[03:04] <upsuper> then I cannot boot my new system after installed until I edit the /etc/fstab
[03:04] <chod> is there a way to get awn to provide draggable files like previous with gnome stuff?
[03:04] <soadfreak15> i need help
[03:04] <Dulak> upsuper: you file a bug report?
[03:05] <RichardBLand> I need help!
[03:05] <upsuper> Dulak: no
[03:05] <edbian> RichardBLand, With what?
[03:05] <RichardBLand> haha, but waiting for some free space :D
[03:05] <RichardBLand> Anyone know how to run Ubuntu without a friggin monitor?
[03:05] <RichardBLand> It boots up without the screen but doesn't get to desktop and pops up with
[03:05] <RichardBLand> Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.
[03:05] <RichardBLand> (EE) intel(0):No valid modes.
[03:05] <FloodBot1> RichardBLand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <upsuper> Dulak: where can I file the bug?
[03:05] <soadfreak15> i had to do xforcevesa to install ubuntu and now i want to know how to use the right drivers for my display
[03:05] <tensorpudding> RichardBLand: Without a monitor?
[03:05] <RichardBLand> yeah
[03:05] <chod> erm
[03:05] <RichardBLand> headless
[03:06] <Dulak> upsuper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs
[03:06] <RichardBLand> want to sit it in the corner of the room
[03:06] <chod> in irssi how can i leave channel 11?
[03:06] <upsuper> Dulak: thanks
[03:06] <RichardBLand> but it won't boot fully without the monitor attached
[03:06] <chod> <ubuntu reg>
[03:06] <soadfreak15> ???
[03:06] <edbian> RichardBLand, How do you know it doesn't get to the desktop if there is no monitor attached?
[03:06] <RichardBLand> because I plug it back in, and that message comes up
[03:06] <RichardBLand> message box*
[03:06] <bastidrazor> chod: /wc 11 or /part  while in that channel
[03:07] <chod> thanks bastidrazor `
[03:07] <edbian> RichardBLand, If it's headless why do you care what graphics mode it enters?  Or if it "gets to the desktop" ?
[03:07] <bastidrazor> chod: you're welcome
[03:07] <chod> yay !!!
[03:07] <tensorpudding> RichardBLand: that message suggests that it doesn't work when the monitor is plugged in either
[03:07] <RichardBLand> because I want to use VNC on it
[03:07] <chrissharp123> RichardBLand: do you just want to run server programs, no need for the GUI
[03:07] <chod> now i need to rembember that
[03:07] <RichardBLand> it works with the monitor plugged in fine
[03:07] <chod> :D
[03:07] <RichardBLand> I want to run server and use the GUI as I am new to linux
[03:07] <UltraParadigm> What happens when you make an new object of a class with static methods?  Like a utility class like Math
[03:07] <UltraParadigm> opps sorry
[03:07] <RichardBLand> and it doesn't give that error when I boot with the monitor plugged in
[03:07] <UltraParadigm> wrong channel
[03:08] <soadfreak15> how do i enable the right display drivers after doin xforcevesa to install ubuntu
[03:08] <edbian> RichardBLand, Oh, well if you're going to have a server proper you should just learn to use ssh.  But I suggest trying VNC (just because you get a low graphics warning on a monitor plugged into the system does not mean you will have one if you VNC)
[03:08] <Cpudan80> UltraParadigm: You get one copy of the method across all classes
[03:08] <RichardBLand> I am using ssh
[03:08]  * chod looks at the floor
[03:08] <chod> erm
[03:08] <tensorpudding> RichardBLand: You might consider XDMCP
[03:08] <edbian> RichardBLand, Then why do you care about the graphics?
[03:08] <chrissharp123> RichardBLand: you can also do ssh -X and use graphical programs
[03:08] <RichardBLand> Im new
[03:08] <RichardBLand> and need GUI as well, to play with
[03:09] <soadfreak15> im really new to this and any help would be appreciated
[03:09] <RichardBLand> I can't find the xorg.conf file, which I believe needs modifying
[03:09] <chod> there is an ignore effort in x11
[03:09] <edbian> RichardBLand, Try VNC or ssh -X on the server.  If you never plan on attaching a monitor to the machine then don't worry about what happens when you do attach one.
[03:09]  * chod forgets where
[03:09] <chrissharp123> RichardBLand: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:09] <RichardBLand> yeah
[03:09] <RichardBLand> it's not there
[03:10] <extraclassic> RichardBLand: use X -configure to generate one
[03:10] <edbian> RichardBLand, If it doesn't exist you can create it and the machine will use it.
[03:10] <chod> i was after to stoping auto mode selection on me laptop as its incorrect
[03:10] <RichardBLand> only xorg.conf.failsafe is in there
[03:10] <tyrone> hi, i am new to ubuntu, was on windows, for my ipod what shoudl i install?
[03:10] <chod> is there a do mode xxx/yyy as it does work ?
[03:10] <chod> like  -- force
[03:11] <chrissharp123> tyrone: rhythmbox will work - it's already there in Ubuntu
[03:11] <plovs>   RichardBLand new X doesn't need xorg.conf most of the time
[03:11] <RichardBLand> :o
[03:11] <tensorpudding> oh damn, when did they get rid of XDMCP in GDM
[03:11] <RichardBLand> so how do I get it to bypass that message and boot fully, so that I can use VNC
[03:11] <tyrone> chrissharp123, ok, will it do the sync thing?
[03:12] <chrissharp123> tyrone: depends on what you need to do... it will not do what iTunes does with the Apple Store and all that
[03:12] <chrissharp123> tyrone: but you can transfer your music back and forth
[03:12] <edbian> RichardBLand, If there is no monitor it will boot fully.
[03:12] <soadfreak15> i need help enabling my display cause im running on vesa drivers
[03:13] <RichardBLand> it won't boot far enough for me to log in using VNC (wont start the service)
[03:13] <tyrone> chrissharp123, sounds good, thanks
[03:13] <edbian> RichardBLand, Can you ssh into it?
[03:13] <tensorpudding> RichardBLand: If it gets to that Intel screen, it has already finished booting
[03:13] <RichardBLand> yeah
[03:13] <izinucs> edbian: even on a desktop install?  which is what RichardBLand now has with server bits in the background.
[03:13] <chrissharp123> soadfreak15: do Alt-F2  and type sudo jockey-gtk
[03:13] <peter_1898> 1) I notice that http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community mentions 'pidgin' and 'gaim' but does not mention 'empathy' the new default IM client when discussing IRC
[03:13] <RichardBLand> it is a desktop install
[03:13] <peter_1898> I don't know where I should bring this up
[03:13] <soadfreak15> im kinda new what will that do
[03:13]  * chod likes irssi
[03:13] <dabbish> i just bought i new keyboard, the FN key only works for *, - and +, not the actual numbers. Anyone know why?
[03:13] <edbian> izinucs, RichardBLand low graphics mode is still booting up fully.
[03:14] <djbeenie> hey guys, anyone know the command to get to sessions in gnome?  I dont have sessions in my preferences
[03:14] <chrissharp123> soadfreak15: it will open the interface to install restricted drivers
[03:14] <RichardBLand> but my VNC won't start unless that warning is gone
[03:14] <soadfreak15> what do i do after that?
[03:14] <izinucs> peter_1898: pidgin=gaim and are not good irc clients.. xchat, weechat, irssi, quassel ..
[03:14] <peter_1898> 2) Anybody have any idea as to where I should go to ask for help with making Ubuntu work better sharing home/configuration with fedora? Currently, it loads up a messed up panel.
[03:14] <chod> dabbish:  mine here has to be on for certain funxtions
[03:14] <peter_1898> izinucs, I agree.
[03:14] <RichardBLand> is there a way to modify the config so that i can load a set resolution etc and fully boot to desktop
[03:14] <RichardBLand> so that VNC will start
[03:14] <chrissharp123> soadfreak15: it should be obvious - if not you'll need to provide more information about your graphics card
[03:14] <peter_1898> izinucs, I would be even happier if the Community page were changed to mention those :D
[03:14] <dabbish> chod: what do you mean by it has to be on?
[03:15] <izinucs> peter_1898: you're sharing /home with 2 different / and distros?
[03:15] <peter_1898> izinucs, I'm talking about http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community
[03:15] <soadfreak15> its a xgi volari xp5
[03:15] <edbian> RichardBLand, What graphics card do you have?
[03:15] <plovs> RichardBLand http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx
[03:15] <chod> my fn has a on/pff function
[03:15] <RichardBLand> phew, uhrm
[03:15] <peter_1898> izinucs, /home/${USER} is mounted via NFS
[03:15] <chod> with a light :D
[03:15] <izinucs> peter_1898: I agree.. lots of pages need updating
[03:15] <plovs> RichardBLand google on headless vnc ubuntu
[03:15] <RichardBLand> yeah I have
[03:15] <peter_1898> izinucs, and yes, I would like it to work both on systems with ubuntu / and fedora /
[03:15] <RichardBLand> for about an hour now plovs
[03:15] <chod> it always this busy here?
[03:16] <dabbish> chod: yeah the num lock, but when i press it (so it's on), it gives me it in reverse. FN plus O becomes O, and not 6
[03:16] <izinucs> peter_1898: good luck.. there are some ~/.conf differences between the two distros.. including where stuff is placed in /
[03:16] <peter_1898> izinucs: Where stuff is in / should not matter.
[03:16] <chod> erm, odd
[03:16] <plovs> RichardBLand the link i sent is quite simple
[03:17] <xiong> I'm not finding what I want. I'd like to be able to control GNOME from the command line -- for instance, to move or resize a window. I see stuff like xnee, which seems a bit low-level. I'm looking for an interface like 'move window XChat 0,0'.
[03:17] <peter_1898> izinucs: Gconf is designed to be backwards and forwards compatible.
[03:17] <izinucs> peter_1898: it has to do with ~/.conf's referencing stuff in /
[03:17] <RichardBLand> edbian: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11349_div/11349_div.html#TechSpecs - Graphics
[03:17] <dabbish> chod: ok thanks
[03:17] <plovs> xlong devilspie
[03:17] <peter_1898> izinucs: There is no ~/.conf
[03:17] <izinucs> peter_1898: of course that's totally program dependant.. some will work some won't
[03:17] <chod> np
[03:17] <jtduncan> is there a way to compile and install ffmpeg myself without having aptitude clobber it or throw up when installing something that depends on libavcodec52 or whatnot?
[03:18] <edbian> RichardBLand, Those are rather old.  Not sure why you're getting low graphics mode.  What does lspci -k tell you about your graphics card?
[03:18] <izinucs> peter_1898: what I mean by ~/.conf is configuration files in your /home for your settings for different programs.
[03:18] <peter_1898> izinucs: there is ~/.gnome2, .gnome2_private, .gconf, .gconfd
[03:18] <peter_1898> Ah, generically
[03:18] <izinucs> yes
[03:18] <xiong> plovs, That looks like it may be it, thanks.
[03:18] <plovs> xiong welcom
[03:18] <izinucs> peter_1898: now you could share one /home with kubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 10.04..
[03:19] <phil_> chrissharp123: this is soadfreak15 idk y it changed but when i did that it comes up with a driver for my wireless adapter
[03:19] <RichardBLand> edbian: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE C                            hipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01 Kernel modules: i915
[03:19] <peter_1898> izinucs: the alternative here to ubuntu working with Fedora is ubuntu not working "right"
[03:19] <peter_1898> izinucs: dropping Fedora is not an option ;)
[03:19] <izinucs> peter_1898: was fedora installed first?
[03:19] <peter_1898> Yes.
[03:19] <peter_1898> By about a decade.
[03:20] <edbian> RichardBLand, It found a kernel module.  I don't know what the problem is.  Sorry
[03:20] <izinucs> peter_1898: that's why..
[03:20] <RichardBLand> yeah
[03:20] <peter_1898> (to exaggerate a smidge)
[03:20] <chrissharp123> phil_: ok - I see this thread from the Arch Linux forums that might help: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=708575
[03:20] <RichardBLand> it just dislikes not booting without a monitor attached
[03:20] <RichardBLand> too bad I can't just bypass that warning and stick with the last config it used to boot
[03:20] <chrissharp123> phil_: if you're new, manual xorg.conf configuration can be pretty complicated, but there are lots of resources out there on the web
[03:20] <izinucs> RichardBLand: a server install will boot headless.. add X and not the entire desktop and you should be able to ssh -X into it.
[03:21] <invisibleman> Hey guys I am having trouble with my Ubuntu
[03:21] <invisibleman> On startup
[03:21] <invisibleman> I get this error
[03:21] <invisibleman> http://adf.ly/7Y3K
[03:21] <FloodBot1> invisibleman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <peter_1898> izinucs: do you know any specific programs that refer to non-home paths?
[03:22] <invisibleman> www.adf.ly/7Y3K
[03:22] <izinucs> RichardBLand: perhaps sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server will overwright the desktop bits preventing a full startup on boot
[03:22] <Ken8521> invisibleman, don't spam the channe
[03:22] <RichardBLand> :/
[03:22] <plovs> RichardBLand tightvncserver doesn't care about the local monitor
[03:22] <izinucs> peter_1898: nope.. sorry. it just seemed logical to me..
[03:22] <edbian> invisibleman, goddamn you
[03:22] <RichardBLand> ok
[03:22] <RichardBLand> i'll give it a go plovs
[03:23] <RichardBLand> but I doubt the service will start
[03:23] <RichardBLand> because it doesn't start the VNC service when that message pops up :D
[03:23] <izinucs> RichardBLand: you'll have to reboot afterwards.. it'll install the server kernel.
[03:23] <peter_1898> izinucs: as far as I know, everything belonging to the user is normally stored within the homedir
[03:23] <tyrone> how can i tell if i have wireless driver? using direct right now
[03:23] <zain_> Operation Payback - http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/276564619
[03:23] <peter_1898> izinucs: as far as I know, the only thing the user needs from / is executables, libraries, and default settings
[03:23] <izinucs> peter_1898: yes that's true.. but those configuations in the users folder are distro specific
[03:24] <peter_1898> izinucs: Well, gconf is designed such that that /should/ be safe.
[03:24] <qfluid> hi, any thinkpad user here? have a partitioning question...
[03:24] <icarus-c> tyrone, if you could wireless driver functioning, you will see your wireless device with command "ifconfig"
[03:24] <peter_1898> izinucs: I can see that some other .conf confs might not work so well though.
[03:24] <icarus-c> qfluid, ask
[03:24] <qfluid> wondering how I can make a partition for Ubuntu, without wipping out the ability to recover
[03:24] <izinucs> peter_1898: that's why you can't mix ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 9.10 or 10.10 together with one home..
[03:24] <plovs> RichardBLand just disable gdm
[03:25] <icarus-c> plovs, startx ftw :P
[03:25] <qfluid> gparted shows three partitions, /dev/sda1 "SYSTEM_DRV", /dev/sda2 "WINDOWS7_OS", /dev/sda3 "Lenovo_RECOVERY"...
[03:25] <tyrone> ok, wlan0 and info on it means i have wireless right?
[03:25] <qfluid> if I just shrink the /dev/sda2 and add an /dev/sda4...would that works?
[03:25] <icarus-c> tyrone, yes
[03:25] <qfluid> (I am planning to use LVM, so I don't really need an extended partition)
[03:26] <plovs> icarus-c no reason to run x on a server, especially if there is no monitor
[03:26] <chrissharp123> qfluid: Win7 has a "shrink volume" feature - use that
[03:26] <tyrone> thanks guys
[03:26] <icarus-c> plovs, then why the heck you have gdm in the first place
[03:26] <RichardBLand> plovs: if I disable GDM then I won't get anything if I boot it up with a monitor will I
[03:26] <peter_1898> izinucs: That sounds disappointing.
[03:26] <peter_1898> Hm.
[03:27] <chrissharp123> RichardBLand: you would get a text prompt
[03:27] <jtduncan> is there a way to compile and install ffmpeg myself without having aptitude clobber it or throw up when installing something that depends on libavcodec52 or whatnot?
[03:27] <izinucs> peter_1898: run one with vbox
[03:27] <icarus-c> RichardBLand, you still get tty unless you disable them too
[03:27] <plovs> RichardBLand you'll get a command prompt, if you ever need X, you log in and type startx
[03:27] <Pr070cal> hi how can i get nvidia gl drivers working on maverick ?
[03:27] <phil_> chrissharp123: yeah i really dont know where to start but ill try to figure it out
[03:27] <chrissharp123> phil_: good luck
[03:27] <RichardBLand> I have no clue what X is lol
[03:27] <arinya> hello, what the meaning of the left upper icon (a dot) of every window in fluxbox window manager?
[03:27] <izinucs> Pr070cal: maveric in #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <RichardBLand> I've only been using linux for about a week
[03:27] <Pr070cal> i think the wrong resolution or refresh is being set
[03:27] <peter_1898> izinucs: vbox is unnecessary. There could just be separate homes for the ubuntu system.
[03:27] <icarus-c> RichardBLand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window
[03:27] <p_res> jtduncan: I recently installed ffmpeg via aptitude and never got such issues.
[03:28] <peter_1898> With symlinks for Documents etc perhaps.
[03:28] <plovs> RichardBLand sorry X  is the whole graphical thing, gnome, kde etc
[03:28] <izinucs> peter_1898: sure.. of course..
[03:28] <RichardBLand> :o
[03:28] <icarus-c> peter_1898, mixing config files for different versions of software is bad : ) keep that in mind
[03:28] <izinucs> plovs: you can have X without gnome/kde etc.. x is a different layer..
[03:29] <greppy> gnome/kde/fluxbox/xfce etc run on top of X11.
[03:29] <plovs> izinucs not if you have been using for a week :-)
[03:29] <plovs> then it is hard enough as it is
[03:29] <izinucs> plovs: :)
[03:29] <jtduncan> p_res: if I install ffmpeg and libavcodec/libavformat/etc. via ffmpeg, then there is no problem....., however, if i install ffmpeg and the associated libraries from source, then installing, say mplayer, from the repositories is going to throw up saying i don't have yaddyyaaddy libraries
[03:30] <izinucs> jtduncan: and that's why the repos exist.. packages are matched to run
[03:31] <p_res> jtduncan: I just installed all from the repos along with the ffmpeg gui winff. All working fine here.
[03:31] <ubuntu1010server> when I launch b43fwcutter from command line should it not launch the ncurses firmware download thing?
[03:32] <jtduncan> i understand it would all work if i installed from the repos, but i need ffmpeg compiled with a couple of extra flags not enabled in the binary in the repository......  T_T
[03:32] <icarus-c> p_res, in my experience winff confuses me more than ffmpeg itself..
[03:32] <izinucs> jtduncan: then grab the same source used in the repos.. you can get the source from the repos..
[03:33] <jtduncan> izinucs: how does that help?  i can't say i understand....
[03:33] <izinucs> jtduncan: recompile with the same source used in the repos as opposed to a newer source that may/maynot have differences.
[03:34] <greppy> jtduncan: it may be a little more work, but you may want to see about building a package with the flags you need.
[03:34] <p_res> icarus-c: Not me. Yeah sometimes use ffmpeg via mpeg. Just depends on what I'm doing.
[03:34] <p_res> via cli I meant
[03:34] <jtduncan> izinucs: even if i do, then i still have the issue of aptitude not recognizing that i have the various ffmpeg libraries installed since they haven't been registered as such in the dpkg db
[03:35] <izinucs> jtduncan: build the deb and then use dpkg to install the deb
[03:35] <chrissharp123> jtduncan: you can also use checkinstall, which installs it as a deb package
[03:35] <izinucs> That's what I was getting at
[03:35] <izinucs> !checkinstall | jtduncan
[03:35] <jtduncan> i use checkinstall (and love it), but ffmpeg is a bit of a complicated case (so far as i can tell)
[03:36] <chrissharp123> jtduncan: gotta be careful with that, though because it can rip out dependencies without mercy when uninstalling
[03:36] <jtduncan> the libraries are separate packages from the main binary
[03:36] <chrissharp123> jtduncan: oh - gotcha
[03:37] <_aegis> Hi all, I have a question about moving my ubuntu 10.4.1 x64 server to a new array...  I've already moved the filesystem to external drives.  When I move the filesystem back to the new array, I think grub will probably have problems.  Do you have any suggestions on how to address possibly grub issues in advance?
[03:37] <Puzzle84> Hi all, i've recently received a tux droid as a gift and it requires python to write scripts for it.
[03:37] <jtduncan> i guess my question is ore appropriately, is there a way to mark certain packages as installed without actually installing them?
[03:38] <edbian> Puzzle84, So?
[03:38] <Puzzle84> My problem is that it needs python-xml which requires python2.5 and 2.6 is installed how would i solve this
[03:38] <rww> !give me a test
[03:39] <Solved> I am trying to listen to a live church broadcast, however, when I try to listen using totem, there is no sound. The link is:    http://lds.org/broadcast/gc/1,5161,9199,00.html
[03:40] <izinucs> Puzzle84: looks cool
[03:40] <p_res> Solved: Try in vlc.
[03:40] <Puzzle84> it is pretty cool izinucs but i can't code anything for it without python2.5 i tried removing 2.6 but it's build into the core
[03:40] <Solved> p_res: I have downloaded vlc from the repos, but when the only option that shows up is totem
[03:41] <p_res> Solved: Logout and login again and it will rebuild your menu. Then it should appear.
[03:41] <Solved> It says the link needs to be opened with an application, however, I do not know where to find vlc when in "browse"
[03:41] <emanu> anybody installed ubuntu on a macbook pro?  Should I be using 32 or 64 bit version?
[03:42] <Solved> p_res: I allready have logged out and logged in since dowloading vlc from the repos. I dont know what you mean by rebuilding my menu
[03:42] <Solved> where can i find "vlc" in "browse"
[03:42] <Puzzle84> applications sound and video
[03:42] <qfluid> chrissharp123, thanks...what I worry more about this potentially MBR issue
[03:42] <Puzzle84> that's where it should be
[03:43] <p_res> Solved: You seem to have a web link, not a streaming link. Go to the website and there are streaming links on the page.
[03:44] <chrissharp123> qfluid: that's why I suggest using Win7's built-in tool - there's less of a chance of the MBR being affected
[03:44] <Solved> p_res what do you mean?
[03:44] <chrissharp123> qfluid: if you have the Win7 install disk, though you can restore the MBR after shrinking with gparted
[03:45] <Solved> p_res: I do not want the video link, i need the audio link
[03:45] <U_buntu> i have a bash/shell script issue. can any one help?
[03:45] <Puzzle84> Solved open a terminal and "apt-get install vlc it'll be in your applications->audio video
[03:45] <p_res> Solved: For example, the English stream works for me at mms://us-eu-st13g1.att-idns.net/3102_9547_01.asf
[03:45] <phil_> i need some help with x
[03:45] <qfluid> chrissharp123, this new laptop I just bought did not provide a win7 install disk
[03:45] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: have you tried downloading the deb for python-xml in jaunty? http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/python-xml
[03:45] <qfluid> just (strangely) and XP one...
[03:46] <qfluid> even though it come with win7 preinstalled
[03:46] <U_buntu> haha you should call the company and request the disc
[03:46] <chrissharp123> qfluid: so no recovery disk?
[03:46] <izinucs> qfluid: what version of win7?
[03:46] <IdleOne> Solved: browse to /usr/bin/vlc
[03:46] <icarus-c> qfluid, maybe you should talk to your dealer
[03:46] <Puzzle84> Solved http://byuradio.org/ they do radio broadcasts
[03:47] <qfluid> professional 64-bit
[03:47] <Solved> Puzzle84: of the same conference?
[03:47] <qfluid> bought direct from Lenovo
[03:47] <Puzzle84> yes
[03:47] <qfluid> i can call them...I remember an old thinkpad I had, they charged me like $20 or something for series of recovery disk
[03:47] <Nicole> looking for Kodak 5100 AiO Drivers
[03:48] <izinucs> qfluid: yea.. talk to lenovo.. although pro I think can sandbox xp like a vm so you can run xp programs in 7 with no issues.
[03:48] <chrissharp123> qfluid: this is exactly why Ubuntu is a good move for you :-)
[03:48] <Solved> IdleOne: thank you so much, it worked
[03:48] <U_buntu> if you just bought the computer then the discs should be free
[03:48] <Puzzle84> So does anyone have a clue how i install python 2.5 as a default when python 2.6 is installed by default in ubuntu
[03:48] <Solved> Puzzle84: thanks
[03:48] <qfluid> chrissharp123, I am a full time Linux user...but need to keep an Win around for my boss's stuff and updating my phone's firmware
[03:48] <qfluid> sigh...
[03:48] <Puzzle84> yw Solved
[03:49] <qfluid> so I want basically a minimal Windows...
[03:49] <izinucs> qfluid: pain isn't it?
[03:49] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: would installing an older Ubuntu or debian lenny in a VM be an option for you?
[03:49] <noneaan> im having some internet issues that i can pin point. im having an issue connecting to the interent. I have dsl set up with a linksys router. I can connect to my router with one laptop, but when two pcs via wifi attempt to connect, both computers are unable to connect, and on my pc in ubuntu using wicd i get .. bad password errors though, the password is correct and  it connects fine with just one pc attempting to connect to the intern
[03:49] <noneaan> et
[03:49] <noneaan> *cant pin point
[03:49] <Solved> I have another problem. My printer (Cannon MX330) functions fine in Windows XP (I dual boot windows and linux ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit) ), however It will not print in ubuntu? why is this?
[03:49] <Puzzle84> uhm i could just install an older ubuntu if need be but wouldn't that always update the newest software chrissharp123?
[03:50] <qfluid> izinucs, yeah...my lab has a license for MATLAB windows, not Linux, and I am not about to hand out cash for that :(
[03:50] <emanu> anybody installed ubuntu on a macbook pro?  Should I be using 32 or 64 bit version?
[03:50] <GreenCult> hi all
[03:50] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: an older Ubuntu version would keep the older Python version
[03:50] <Puzzle84> emanu 64bit if it's new
[03:51] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: it wouldn't upgrade to 2.6
[03:51] <Puzzle84> chrissharp123 how would i figure out which one has 2.5?
[03:51]  * chrissharp123 checks
[03:51] <greppy> emanu: if it's an intel based macbook pro, use amd64
[03:51] <Solved> My printer (Cannon MX330) functions fine in Windows XP (I dual boot windows and linux ubuntu 10.04 LTS (32 bit) ), however It will not print in ubuntu? why is this?
[03:52] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: hardy was the last ubuntu with 2.5: http://ns2.canonical.com/hardy/python
[03:52] <izinucs> noneaan: Solved because you haven't installed linux drivers for it?
[03:52] <emanu> greppy. Thanks
[03:52] <emanu> Puzzle84: thanks
[03:52] <Solved> izinucs: how do i get the linux driver for it?
[03:52] <Puzzle84> kk i installed this as uhm a windows file would there be a windows installer for that ubuntu version i can't lose my windows 7 install.. wedding stuff and such :P
[03:53] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: and Debian lenny (current stable) runs 2.5 as well
[03:53] <Puzzle84> ah i might try debian then
[03:53] <izinucs> Solved: did you check the cannon site for it?
[03:53] <Puzzle84> "D
[03:53] <Puzzle84> :D
[03:53] <administrator__> 进来了吗
[03:53] <Puzzle84> but i require a windows installer for it :P
[03:53] <Solved> um no
[03:53] <Solved> izinucs: i just google canon drivers?
[03:53] <ithrewitonthegro> join #whitenoise
[03:53] <administrator__> 呵呵
[03:54] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: have you attempted dual-booting without wubi?
[03:54] <Puzzle84> nope
[03:54] <Puzzle84> i'm afraid to :p
[03:54] <ithrewitonthegro> dont
[03:54] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: have no fear :-)
[03:54] <ithrewitonthegro> whoops
[03:54] <cablop> what the.... is gnome playing at?
[03:54] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: have you used VirtualBox?  You can download it in Windows
[03:55] <cablop> they removed the ability to set custom sizes on gnome-terminal windows!
[03:55] <chrissharp123> s/in/for/
[03:55] <phil_> i need to enable my video drivers i have an xgi volari xp5 on a inspiron 5160
[03:55] <Puzzle84> never used it before
[03:55] <cablop> or is it a thing only in ubuntu ?
[03:55] <phil_> im running the vesa drivers now
[03:55] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: it may be the answer to your problem :-)
[03:55] <_Mash> cablop: huh?
[03:55] <Puzzle84> ah ok so i install that and then install linux in there?
[03:56] <g0st> does anybody have any experience with tor/privoxy (or polipo) and can offer some troubleshooting advice
[03:56] <cablop> i had customized the size of terminal windowses... to get them bigger... now i installed the updates and they have not that option anymore! they went back to 80x24 in size!
[03:57] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: exactly - careful though, it gets addictive ;-)
[03:57] <mateo> Hello
[03:57] <icarus-c> cablop, what gnome version
[03:57] <cablop> what is gnome playing at? they look like an anorexic girl... always cuting down and cuting down more and more!
[03:57] <peter_1898> Holy crap my gconf still has a stardict directory
[03:57] <cablop> i don't know! i'm using ub 10.04 now
[03:57] <mak69> any1 here can help me on hardware overlay surface related to tv tuner card
[03:58] <mateo> I just installed ubuntu 10.10 and the wireless is not working BCM4312
[03:58] <phil_> ????
[03:58] <Puzzle84> so i should get debian lenny?
[03:58] <g0st> can anybody offer some help with tor/privoxy (polipo)
[03:58] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: or Ubuntu Hardy (supported until April 2011)
[03:58] <Solved> izinucs: after i download the driver, what do i do with the downloaded file to get the printer to work?
[03:58] <cablop> anyway
[03:58] <Puzzle84> which one would you recommend for a linux beginner?
[03:59] <cablop> is there  a way to set the custom size of my terminal windows again?
[03:59] <chrissharp123> mateo: try installing the bcmwl-kernel-source package
[03:59] <mateo> chrissharp123, I did that already
[03:59] <izinucs> Solved: you'll need to follow their instructions.. that's a multi-function unit.. they are not all the same.
[03:59] <mak69> hi chrissharp
[03:59] <chrissharp123> mateo: did you restart afterwards?
[03:59] <mateo> yes
[03:59] <chrissharp123> mak69: hi
[03:59] <mateo> chrissharp123, I have installed a lot of drivers by now, maybe they are conflicting :S
[04:00] <mak69> need some help on tv tuner
[04:00] <nyxuz> hey, i recently switched to ubuntu, but im having problems finding drivers for my sony hd cam.  from what i can tell sony doesnt have any drivers for linux. is there anywhere to find drivers or anything i can do to get it up and running?
[04:00] <izinucs> nyxuz: get it up and running in what way.. to import video you've shot?
[04:01] <chrissharp123> mateo: actually - that's a common situation - conflicting kernel drivers - you might remove them all then try again one by one
[04:01] <nyxuz> to run it as a webcam
[04:01] <nyxuz> in msgr programs or flash sites
[04:01] <mateo> chrissharp123, I don't know how to resolve them
[04:01] <icarus-c> nyxuz, usually linux got most drivers out of the box
[04:01] <izinucs> nyxuz: are you connecting it with usb?
[04:01] <mateo> I just installed every related package
[04:01] <nyxuz> firewire
[04:01] <cablop> nyxuz install the kernel headers too
[04:01] <nyxuz> how would i go about doing that
[04:01] <icarus-c> nyxuz, to use webcam, try to run "cheese"  to see if your webcam working or nit
[04:02] <chrissharp123> mateo: ah - not sure what to advise then
[04:02] <cablop> install the latest kernel and the headers of it, then try to see if system is able to  handle your webcam
[04:02] <izinucs> nyxuz: sometimes firewire has issues.. but install a program called cheese .. if it works there it typically will work anywhere.
[04:02] <Solved> I just downloaded the driver for my printer (Canon MX330). What do I do now to make my printer work?
[04:02] <nyxuz> ok, cool
[04:02] <nyxuz> ill try cheese
[04:02] <nyxuz> thanks so much
[04:02] <mak69> while running tvtime i receive hardware yuy2 overlay error......no idea what 2 do, any help?
[04:02] <cablop> if not, try to find a driver, or try to get the real chipset of your webcam then go to the webcam chipset manufacturer and look for a drive... advice, you could end in a chinese website looking for the driver... but, anyway...
[04:02] <izinucs> nyxuz: there's also two basic versions of capture.. v4l and anther that I can't remember right now
[04:03] <izinucs> nyxuz: switch between them with cheese
[04:03] <Puzzle84> chrissharp123, would ubuntu or debian be the better choice for a linux beginner like me ?
[04:03] <andchota> hola..
[04:03] <izinucs> Puzzle84: ubuntu
[04:03] <chrissharp123> Solved: have you tried adding the printer via System - Administration - Printing? there are a lot of Canon drivers there
[04:03] <Puzzle84> alright
[04:03] <Puzzle84> downloading hardy now
[04:03] <Puzzle84> thanks for the help btw
[04:03] <cablop> is there any way to make nautilus sort the files by characters and letters?
[04:03] <chrissharp123> Puzzle84: agreed - Ubuntu
[04:03] <izinucs> Puzzle84: not hardy
[04:03] <tensorpudding> Don't download Hardy
[04:03] <cablop> not only by letters
[04:03] <nyxuz> ok, ill install them both and see if i have any luck
[04:03] <tensorpudding> Hardy is over two years old
[04:03] <izinucs> Puzzle84: that's way out of date.. get 10.04
[04:04] <chrissharp123> izinucs: he needs a version running Python 2.5, so I recommended that Puzzle84 run hardy or debian lenny
[04:04] <tensorpudding> Lucid is the current version, although if you wait a week Maverick will be released
[04:04] <Solved> chrissharp123: yes i have, there was nothing there for the MX330 though
[04:04] <izinucs> chrissharp123: ah.. I had forgotten his issues from earlier.
[04:04] <Solved> I just downloaded the driver for my printer (Canon MX330). What do I do now to make my printer work?
[04:05] <chrissharp123> Solved: sometimes a driver for a similarly numbered version will work
[04:05] <Puzzle84> 10.04 = greqt
[04:05] <crackstore> hye all :)
[04:05] <Puzzle84> great even
[04:05] <cablop> i need to sort the files in the browser by additional characters and letters, is there a way to tell ubuntu to do that?
[04:05] <chrissharp123> Solved: I have a Canon MP210 and use MP220 drivers fine
[04:05] <MrKeuner> anybody using openvpn? how can I setup the openvpn to be able to use with network manager in ubuntu client?
[04:05] <Solved> mmm
[04:05] <Solved> ok
[04:05] <Solved> so i just go to printing and click add?
[04:06] <mak69> guys not able to run tvtime, any help?
[04:06] <chrissharp123> Solved: yes - it's pretty straightforward
[04:06] <cablop> MrKreuner i end messing the system while trying to use the openvpn ubuntu manager...
[04:06] <izinucs> Solved: what's the name of the file including the extension at the end
[04:06] <Solved> i dont know?
[04:06] <Solved> oh
[04:06] <izinucs> nvm
[04:06] <Smoodo> I've made a list of png files by using 'ls -AC1 > imagelist.txt'.   I want to use each filename in that text file as the input parameter for a command ./iPhonePNG     How can I pipe the output to that command?
[04:06] <greppy> MrKeuner: there is an openvpn plugin for network manager, I haven't tried it myself yet, but it's there.
[04:07] <cablop> i need to sort files in nautilus... but nautilus sort them in a wrong way... it sorts like this
[04:07] <phil_> how to i get xgi volari xp5 drivers to work?
[04:07] <cablop> aww
[04:07] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: try 'cat imagelist.txt |
[04:07] <Solved> izinucs: cnijfilter-mx330series-3.10-1-i368-deb.tar.gz
[04:07] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: cat imagelist.txt
[04:07] <MrKeuner> greppy, yeah, just couldn't figure out how to set up openvpn server for using it
[04:07] <chrissharp123>  d'oh :-)
[04:07] <izinucs> Solved: it's compressed it looks like.. point at it and right mouse click then extract
[04:07] <greppy> MrKeuner: do you have an openvpn server (on a different computer)
[04:08] <MrKeuner> greppy, yes
[04:08] <cablop> i need to sort files in nautilus... but nautilus sort them in a wrong way... it sorts like this "a file" "{ b file" "c file"... but the order i need is something like "{ b file"  "a file" "c file"... is there any way to make nautilus sort files that way?
[04:08] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: 'cat imagelist.txt | ./iPhonePNG' - sorry - I'm apparently losing my ability to type :-)
[04:08] <Smoodo> chrissharp: It just reports back, "Usage: ./iPhonePNG <input>"   Which means that no filename was passed to it.
[04:08]  * cablop wonders if that's possible...
[04:08] <MrKeuner> greppy, I am having trouble configuring the openvpn server on different computer
[04:08] <ubuntu1010server> can some please help me install broadcom firmware from the command line
[04:09] <greppy> MrKeuner: glancing at it, it should be as simple as filling in the correct information in the network manager app
[04:09] <Smoodo> chrissharp: You think I need to use xargs in there somehow... or?
[04:09] <Solved> izinucs: ok i extracted it
[04:09] <Solved> now what
[04:09] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: 'for i in `cat imagelist.txt`; do ./iPhonePNG $i; done'
[04:09] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: try that
[04:09] <izinucs> Solved: now the extracted file.. does it end in <something>.deb
[04:10] <Solved> izinucs: yes it does
[04:10] <Smoodo> chrissharp123: Freaking awesome...  thanks!
[04:10] <izinucs> Solved: is the printer plugged in?
[04:10] <chrissharp123> Smoodo: great - glad it worked for you ;-)
[04:10] <Solved> izinucs: yes
[04:10] <cablop> i need help to sort files in nautilus... nautilus sort them in a wrong way... it sorts like "a file" "{ b file" "c file"... but the right order is "{ b file"  "a file" "c file"... is there any way to make nautilus sort files correctly?
[04:11] <xangua> !repeat | cablop
[04:11] <izinucs> Solved: unplug it.. then double click the .deb file and see if it tries to install.
[04:11] <cablop> xangua: i remade the question, i though it was hard to understand, just that
[04:11] <greppy> cablop: view -> arrange by
[04:11] <cablop> greppy: let me check
[04:11] <greppy> cablop: sorry, view -> arrange items
[04:12] <MrKeuner> greppy, it is asking for a gateway for example... I have no clue what that might be
[04:12] <Guest26463> cablop, let me know if you get an answer. I would also like to change Nautilus's lexicographic ordering
[04:12] <greppy> MrKeuner: that would be the ip of your openvpn server
[04:12] <greppy> or hostname
[04:12] <cablop> greppy: there's no arrange by there
[04:13] <Guest26463> greppy, I think cablop is asking how to change the lexicographic ordering of nautilus so that it won't skip over special characters, but rather will compare the special character as < all letters (like Windows Explorer does)
[04:13] <greppy> cablop: hrm, there is on my default install of 10.04
[04:13] <greppy> Guest26463: ah, no idea then.
[04:13] <banksy> Just upgraded from a laptop from UNR 10.04 to 10.10 and Unity doesn't work due to my lack of 3D hardware.   This is wahat i want!!!!
[04:14] <greppy> banksy: apt-get remove unity?
[04:14] <xangua> !maverick | banksy
[04:14] <Solved> izinucs:ok i ran it in terminal
[04:14] <Guest26463> cablop : Can't help, sorry. I've wanted the same functionality. When I used to use Windows, I would name folders starting with two underscores (e.g. __Special) so they would be first in the sort, but Nautilus's ordering ignores the underscores. I've never found a solution.
[04:15] <izinucs> Solved: and it looked like it installed?
[04:15] <Guest26463> cablop, but Nautilus is open source, so theoretically it is possible to make the change and recompile it :P
[04:15] <Solved> izinucs: it asked for my password, then a bunch of stuff happened, so i think so
[04:15] <izinucs> Solved: ok.. now ..sudo system cups restart ..
[04:15] <banksy> xangua: cheers.  I'm rebooting it now
[04:16] <Solved> izinucs: sliver@koerber-desktop:~$ sudo system cups restart
[04:16] <Solved> sudo: system: command not found
[04:16] <Solved> sliver@koerber-desktop:~$
[04:16] <DingGGu> Solved: service
[04:16] <DingGGu> service cups restart
[04:17] <banksy> xangua: still got the white screen after restart, should I move this to #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:17] <knolls> is there a way to just recreate my user's home directory?  i made a mistake and lost all my files anyway, i'd like to start with some default configurations
[04:17] <izinucs> Solved: DingGGu is right.. my bad.. sudo service cups restart
[04:17] <cablop> Guest26463: awwwww... i can cry... i'm moved to Ubuntu after a Windows crash and i was willing to restore my system... i use something similar as you... but using _ { [ ( - ° and so on...
[04:17] <Solved> dingggu: thnx
[04:17] <DingGGu> ^^
[04:17] <izinucs> Solved: after that plug the printer in and see what happens
[04:17] <Solved> izinucs: now what
[04:17] <Solved> ok
[04:18] <DingGGu> but do you know udevd has 100 percent used cpu?
[04:18] <Solved> izinucs: do i need to move the file to somewhere else other than downloads?
[04:18] <DingGGu> i think ubuntu's bug
[04:18] <izinucs> Solved: nope..
[04:19] <lorph> hello do I need the & in my crontab "@reboot ~/script.py &" to run it in the background?
[04:19] <Solved> mk
[04:19] <izinucs> Solved: mk?
[04:19] <DingGGu> screen -S
[04:19] <icarus-c> lorph, no.
[04:19] <Solved> izinucs: it works! thanks so much!
[04:19] <MrKeuner> greppy, how can I understand if vpn connection successful, will my wlan0 ip change to a local IP?
[04:20] <lorph> icarus-c: ok thanks
[04:20] <izinucs> Solved: you got lucky.. are you in europe or australia?  because that driver isn't available in the U.S.
[04:20] <Solved> izinucs: canada eh?
[04:20] <DingGGu> anybody dont know udev bug?
[04:21] <izinucs> Solved: wow.. when I googled.. everything said it was available outside the us. of course canada is.. almost :) .. glad it works. !
[04:21] <greppy> MrKeuner: no, you should have another interface, either a tap0 or a tun0 depending on your configuration, in a terminal "ifconfig" should list all of your interfaces
[04:22] <bobstro> knolls:  you can just recreate the home directory, yes. copy over /etc/skel/* to get the default stuff normally created for a new user account.
[04:22] <Zaehlas> Is there a compiz help room?  interestingly enough this new empathy client, although having alot of functions, won't let me bring up a room list
[04:23] <cyberfingers> how do you you unload modules - FATAL: Module mac80211 is in use?
[04:25] <knolls> thanks bobstro
[04:25] <MrKeuner> greppy, this is what I see on the server side syslog: TLS Error: cannot locate HMAC in incoming packet from
[04:26] <bobstro> knolls:  there are hidden files in there, so be sure they copy over.
[04:27] <MrKeuner> greppy, I have shown ca.crt, client.crt and client.key to the network manager. Network manager didn't ask for ta.key file anywhere, could that be the reason for this error message/
[04:27] <zeating> Hello
[04:28] <greppy> MrKeuner: not sure, i've only ever setup openvpn using files in /etc/openvpn, never used the network manager plugin.
[04:29] <MrKeuner> greppy, all right thank you
[04:38] <izinucs> .
[04:39] <izinucs> did everything just stop for 10 minutes?
[04:40] <jdsbluedevl> hi, how can I boot into verbose mode without the splash screen?  I think something happened in the upgrade to the Maverick RC, but nobody's responding in the #ubuntu+1 room
[04:41] <izinucs> jdsbluedevl: you can check dmesg from cli or edit /boot/grub.cfg and eliminate the quiet splash at the end of the kernel line
[04:41] <jdsbluedevl> izinucs: that's not it.  I can't even boot up without it freezing at the splash screen
[04:41] <jdsbluedevl> that's why I want to boot into verbose
[04:42] <izinucs> jdsbluedevl: sorry I don't have the answer.. my only other suggestion would be to edit the grub file via a live cd
[04:43] <deena> Hi
[04:43] <deena> latest realplayer 11gold  is not running in my mozilla browser
[04:43] <deena> any idea to fix this?
[04:45] <unlofl> I'm at a complete loss as to how to google my problem here.  Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, the tray volume control is behaving strangely.
[04:45] <ElCerebr0> what is the name for the social channel?
[04:45] <unlofl> from about 10-20%, it adjust the volume, and from 20%-100%, almost no change, near full volume for that entire range
[04:45] <rww> ElCerebr0: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45]  * crackstore is away (Away.. bye all :))
[04:46] <unlofl> changing the volume slider from ~2%-5% makes it MUCH louder, as much of a change as moving it from 10%-100%
[04:46] <unlofl> is this a pulse audio config issue?
[04:47] <AbhiJit> hi
[04:47] <rww> !away > crackstore
[04:48] <doobery> hi all
[04:48] <RichardBLand> plovs: thanks for the help, tight VNC worked
[04:48] <RichardBLand> with default desktop
[04:49] <plovs> RichardBLand great!
[04:49] <RichardBLand> cheers
[04:50] <qnaguaro> alguien habla español?
[04:50] <doobery> hello?
[04:50] <AbhiJit> doobery, hi
[04:51] <rww> !es | qnaguaro
[04:51] <qnaguaro> gracias ubottu ;)
[04:51] <Guest6893> how do i turn a list of commands into a script?
[04:52] <unlofl> guest6893: make it executable
[04:52] <unlofl> chmod +x somefile
[04:52] <doobery> hi,  AbhiJit, i was wondering if anyone knows how to operate the bluetooth stack on lucid?
[04:52] <unlofl> and you'll need a line at the top indicating the shell, something like "#!/bin/bash"
[04:52] <AbhiJit> !ask | doobery
[04:52] <areeda> probably want to add #!/bin/shell too
[04:52] <Guest6893> i have sudo --yes --quiet install a bunch of times with different programs
[04:53] <doobery> i see
[04:53] <tristan_> yuo mad
[04:54] <Guest6893> this is what i have "sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install wine && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install acidrip && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install avidemux && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install devede && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install ogmrip && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install dvdrip && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install isomaster && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install kmediafactory && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install mandvd && sudo apt-get --yes --qu
[04:54] <Guest6893> iet install ripperx && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install todiscgui && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install tovid && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet install winff && sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes instal
[04:54] <Guest6893> l app-install-data-medibuntu apport-hooks-medibuntu && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[04:54] <FloodBot1> Guest6893: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <unlofl> ahh! the pastiness!
[04:54] <Guest6893> can i turn that into a script?
[04:55] <unlofl> guest6893: you need to google writing shell scripts a bit
[04:55] <unlofl> all that needs is one line at the top telling the system how to execute it, and the file needs to be executable
[04:56] <Guest6893> k
[04:56] <Guest6893> #!/bin/sheel?
[04:57] <areeda> oops shell what ever program you want to execute the script like bash or perl or tcsh
[04:58] <unlofl> guest6893: google a bash hello world script or something, there is no such thing as /bin/shell
[04:58] <unlofl> guest6893: #!/bin/bash  perhaps
[04:59] <MrKeuner> hello, how can I run openvpn server on startup
[05:00] <Guest6893> k thanks guys, I'll go do a little research, I'll be back if there is any problems have a good night
[05:00] <unlofl> mrkeuner:  I believe it always runs on startup?  is there anything unusual about your install?
[05:00] <unlofl> there may be something in /etc/default/ ?
[05:00] <extor> gawd this grub menu of the new ubunto is so cryptic and confusing I can't figure out where to change a damn thing
[05:00] <extor> Where on earth do I put the proper kernel line in?
[05:00] <AbhiJit> extor, in grub.conf i think
[05:00] <MrKeuner> unlofl, don't know when I do /etc/init.d/openvpn start it runs...
[05:01] <extor> AbhiJit, I've always done that except in dapper grub.conf DOES NOT EXIST
[05:01]  * extor screams
[05:01] <unlofl> is it in /etc/rc2.d/?
[05:01] <MrKeuner> unlofl, haven't touched /etc/default
[05:01] <unlofl> normally the init.d scripts are linked from one of the /etc/rc?.d/ directories
[05:01] <cablop> wherer are the locales been saved in ubuntu?
[05:01] <AbhiJit> !grub2 | extor
[05:02] <MrKeuner> unlofl, it is there, yes
[05:02] <david_> Ubuntu used to come with something that you could make a distro of your currently installed programs, is there anything like that now?
[05:03] <unlofl> david_ : thats not a distro, but you can try "dpkg --get-selections"
[05:03] <david_> really what I want is to have all the programs i have installed given to a friend
[05:03] <david_> on a flash frive
[05:03] <unlofl> you could take that list of packages and make a script to add to the ubuntu installer, I suppose
[05:03] <david_> drive
[05:03] <unlofl> why on a flash drive? no network access or something?
[05:04] <Lord_Nightmare> i recently updated my ubuntu install to latest packages, and now speaker beeps don't work. is there any easy way i can fix that short of recompiling the kernel?
[05:04] <david_> his a windows lover, and i want him to install everything I have for video editing on his computer through wubi to try it out
[05:05]  * Lord_Nightmare does not have speakers connected to machine, so only builtin speaker does anything audible, and i need it for noting when i have emails and messages
[05:05] <unlofl> ok, use "dpkg --get-selections"
[05:05] <unlofl> that will give you a list of all packages you have installed
[05:06] <deena> Hi
[05:06] <Lord_Nightmare> nevermind, solved problem
[05:07] <Lord_Nightmare> pcspkr module was disabled for some reason
[05:07] <deena> volume control buttun was disappered from my top panel
[05:07] <deena> any idea how to getit back?
[05:07] <mak69> can i have any help for tvtuner card
[05:08] <xangua> deena: add the indicator applet
[05:08] <crowfax> 2/wc
[05:08] <mak69> i have been behind it 4 days now
[05:08] <saTTY> I have bought lenovo g460 but no harware is working
[05:08] <Lord_Nightmare> found real problem: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf now has pcspkr blacklisted. gee, thanks, i REALLY wanted that.
[05:09] <mak69> bought a windows cd and goin to switch to it.......i would like to know whether i can have any help before switching
[05:09] <saTTY> Driver for lenovo
[05:09] <allen__> Hi everyone, I honestly don't know what I am on right now.
[05:09] <psycho_oreos> saTTY, what sort of hardware?
[05:09] <deena> got it xangua thanks
[05:10] <saTTY> Wifi and display
[05:10] <pooky> In X, after upgrading to 10.10, all of my windows in gnome drag slowly playing catchup with the mouse. This didn't happen in 10.04, anyone know what I could do to troubleshoot?
[05:10] <psycho_oreos> saTTY, pastebin (not paste) your lspci -nnk output
[05:10] <psycho_oreos> !maverick | pooky
[05:10] <mak69> ma receiving hardware overlay surface error, any help for troubleshooting
[05:11] <peter_1898> mak69, what exactly is the problem?
[05:12] <mak69> hi peter
[05:12] <saTTY> Any solution
[05:12] <Snakkah> Has anyone used the new btrfs filesystem? Should I use it or stick to ext4?
[05:12] <pooky> psycho_oreos: that, sorry.
[05:12] <AbhiJit> ext4
[05:12] <Snakkah> Why?
[05:12] <AbhiJit> its stable
[05:13] <rohit> If I install 10.10 RC, will I be able to upgrade to 10.10 final when it's released using the normal updater?
[05:13] <RichardBLand> how big is a typical ubuntu install size?
[05:13] <psycho_oreos> saTTY, did you do what I told you to do?
[05:13] <rusivi> Snakkah: if your adventurous stick with btrfs, else ext4
[05:13] <mak69> i have bought and installed intex tv tuner card and when i try running tvtime i get this hardware overlay error
[05:13] <AbhiJit> rohit, yes
[05:13] <AbhiJit> rohit, also #ubuntu+1 for maverick discussion
[05:13] <Snakkah> rusivi, have you heard that it's faster, slower, etc?
[05:13] <RichardBLand> I've got about 5GB for my installed ubuntu
[05:13] <psycho_oreos> maverick | rohit
[05:13] <mak69> Running tvtime 1.0.2.
[05:13] <psycho_oreos> !maverick | rohit
[05:13] <mak69> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[05:13] <mak69> Reading configuration from /home/mak/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[05:13] <mak69> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[05:13] <mak69> *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
[05:13] <mak69> *** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
[05:13] <FloodBot1> mak69: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <AbhiJit> :P forgot the !
[05:13] <RichardBLand> seems a lot for a 700mb install
[05:13] <izinucs> RichardBLand: that's about right
[05:14] <RichardBLand> must have some good compression going on
[05:14] <rohit> AbhiJit: Cool, thanks :)
[05:14] <psycho_oreos> yes, I caught that real quick :)
[05:14] <AbhiJit> rohit, welcome!
[05:14] <Snakkah> And I've also read that btrfs requires compression to be activated to be best used.
[05:14] <Snakkah> Does anyone know how to activate the compression for it?
[05:15] <allen__> Does any one have a triple boot? I have ubuntu and Vista now, but want Fedora also. I'm not sure exactly how to go about it.
[05:15] <mak69> hi psycho what was that
[05:15] <psycho_oreos> mak69, you shouldn't have pasted the output into the channel, you should have used pastebin to prevent flooding of channel
[05:16] <jexmex> how can I setup a static ip address? and will it work if my router is set to auto assign ips?
[05:16] <dunhill> hi
[05:16] <mak69> ok, as i am new to Xchat not aware of the tools here
[05:16] <Guest69426> hi
[05:16] <psycho_oreos> allen__, as long as the fedora is in relatively latest version (uses the same grub boot loader as ubuntu) it should be ok
[05:17] <Guest26463> mak69, pastebin is not a tool that comes with your IRC client. It is a website where you can paste text, then link to it in the channel
[05:17] <Guest26463> that way you're not pasting multiple lines to the channel
[05:17] <Guest26463> which people regard as spam
[05:17] <Guest69426> ubuntu is good
[05:17] <izinucs> allen__: you can but if you're just checking it out run it in virtualbox
[05:17] <rusivi> Snakkah: Your the first I've seen who asked about it but that does not make it better/worse. From what I have read it is implementing many advance file system features for data-center/cluster focused applications/operations.
[05:17] <psycho_oreos> jexmex, you can use networkmanager to set static ips and the computer will not automatically obtain IP address from the router even if the router is handing out IP addresses or not
[05:18] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> Can anyone tell me why I am denied access when I try to run a program that I created?
[05:18] <mak69> if any1 here doesnt have a solution for tv tuner can u please let me know how to have vista on my pc without having to format ubuntu
[05:18] <Snakkah> rusivi, I see. So it's more geared for server/network use?
[05:18] <jexmex> psycho_oreos, I looked in there (btw on i am on kubuntu but that channel is dead), but it looks like I dont have any connections created?
[05:18] <allen__> Psycho_oreos, If I just partition my hard drive one more time with Gparted, then install Fedora 13 too that partition, the grub I have no will pick it up automatically?
[05:19] <psycho_oreos> possibly you're not the owner of the file or you don't have the correct permissions to execute the file Detroit_Bad_Boy
[05:19] <peter_1898> allen__: If you run sudo update-grub
[05:19] <jexmex> mak69, try a virtual box
[05:19] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> I set myself as administrator
[05:19] <allen__> izinucs, Thanks. Yup I've already done that, and like what I saw.
[05:19] <UweBollsFunder> Hi. I need help setting up Samba so that only a valid user can access a private share. This is my current configuration: http://www.pastebin.org/12770     The private share is accessible without a username and password, despite me forcing a "valid users = existinguser" flag. What am I doing wrong?
[05:19] <izinucs> jexmex: I installed wicd on kubuntu to set a static ip.. you'll have to uninstall knetworkmanager to do it.
[05:19] <allen__> peter_1898, after installation?
[05:19] <rusivi> Snakkah: For now with the intent to make it fully applicable to end-user/administrator alike.
[05:19] <psycho_oreos> jexmex, its best to ask and wait for support in kubuntu, as ubuntu and kubuntu uses different front ends, I think there's wicd for it.. but if you used command line its all the same
[05:20] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> psycho_oreos: I set myself as administrator
[05:20] <mak69> is that a app from ubuntu
[05:20] <peter_1898> allen__: After booting to Ubuntu after installing Fedora. I don't know how Fedora will deal with Ubuntu already existing, it might add Ubuntu to the grub /it/ installs.
[05:20] <psycho_oreos> allen__, it should but again, its probably best to double check if fedora has grub v2 or you may face issues
[05:20] <mak69> jexmex??
[05:20] <psycho_oreos> Detroit_Bad_Boy, then its still permissions issue
[05:20] <allen__> psycho_oreos, what sort of issues?
[05:21] <peter_1898> psycho_oreos, allen__ Fedora 13 does not use grub v2
[05:21] <psycho_oreos> allen__, vista may or may not boot, though there maybe are workarounds I think
[05:21] <Chaos2358> are there any free voip apps for ubuntu 10.04?
[05:21] <allen__> Peter-1898, that's good to hear!
[05:21] <R1cochet> please help. i just installed a new grafix card. nvidia gts 450. i had removed the previous nvidia drivers before upgrade. however, now hardware manager does not show any nvidia drivers to download
[05:21] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> psycho_oreos: how do I change permissions?
[05:21] <psycho_oreos> peter_1898, ahh oh well, that's for allen__ to sort out
[05:22] <matiasR_24> hola
[05:22] <matiasR_24> alguien conoce un canal tucumano?
[05:22] <allen__> peter_1898, I honestly don't care if vista boots anymore, I'm thinking of getting rid of it altogether, last time I was on there was probably 2 months ago
[05:22] <rusivi> Chaos2358 If you consider Skype-2-Skype only free...
[05:22] <psycho_oreos> allen__, not necessarily, ubuntu as of >=9.10 uses grub2 which can and will be overwritten by grub1 on fedora if one is not careful
[05:22] <jexmex> hrm, adding a new connection did not seem to work
[05:22] <Chaos2358> ANYTHING OTHER THEN SKYPE?
[05:22] <rusivi> Chaos2358 hehe
[05:22] <Chaos2358> sorry for the caps
[05:22] <rusivi> np
[05:23] <moetunes> !es | matiasR_24
[05:23] <psycho_oreos> Detroit_Bad_Boy, I think you right click on the file and click on the properties.. I don't know exactly how to do it but under command line its chmod
[05:23] <allen__> psycho_oreos, is there a way to not have it over written while installing fedora?
[05:23] <Snakkah> Hmm...I keep reading that the benchmarks for btrfs vs ext4 show that ext4 still outperforms it.
[05:23] <mak69> jexmex, is it virtualbox-ose
[05:23] <izinucs> Chaos2358: ekiga.. there's also google voice will work through gmail and a linux appelate..
[05:23] <Snakkah> That's kind of surprising.
[05:23] <Chaos2358> rusivi is that hehe a yes?
[05:23] <peter_1898> allen__: Vista will work after installing linux if you do it right. HOWEVER
[05:23] <psycho_oreos> allen__, you maybe able to specify that during install, best to ask in #fedora
[05:23] <maverick340> my isp for some reason has capped http downloads to 50kB/s ,is there a way i can use any proxy to bypass this ?
[05:23] <Snakkah> But in other places, I read that it's twice as fast as ext4
[05:23] <cuddlefish_XO> wgia
[05:23] <cuddlefish_XO> *whoa
[05:23] <peter_1898> allen__: if you ever hard-shut-down Vista while it's shutting down, Vista might need to repair itself, and it might die.
[05:24] <cuddlefish_XO> Bucket's nick isn't registered?
[05:24] <Chaos2358> izinucs will that allow me to call phones instead of just other users?
[05:24] <jags> hey is there any kind of mouse application to easily change your mouse cursor with ubuntu and compiz?
[05:24] <cuddlefish_XO> sorry wrong window
[05:24] <Snakkah> Is it faster? What's the advantage?
[05:24] <allen__> hmmm so many things to consider!
[05:24] <izinucs> Chaos2358: google voice will.. for free
[05:24] <maverick340> i constantly get 49.8-49.9 kB/s downloading a file from chromium
[05:24] <Detroit_Bad_Boy> psycho_oreos: I'll look up the list of chmod commands and see if I can change it that way in a terminal
[05:24] <Chaos2358> izinucs thanks
[05:24] <allen__> Psycho, how would I get to #fedora from here?
[05:24] <peter_1898> /j #fedora
[05:24] <Genieliu> hi
[05:24] <Guest69426> hi
[05:24] <rusivi> Chaos2358 Not being sarcastic, if your looking to setup your own custom VOIP solution let me check.
[05:25] <psycho_oreos> Detroit_Bad_Boy, its fairly easy after you get the hang of it, for starters there's man chmod
[05:25] <UweBollsFunder> allen__: type /join #fedora
[05:25] <allen__> oh, thanks guys! I'll be back to let you know how it goes, if it goes!
[05:26] <mak69> right i got only ubuntu on my pc now is it possible for me to have vista or xp without formatting my hdd, if so how please help
[05:26] <chicom9> hello everyone... i need a little help w a small issue ...i am getting an interesting problem with the command passwd... only root is able to change passwords, but not normal users. running strace gives the following error passwd: Authentication token mani"..., 48passwd: Authentication token manipulation error wondering if i could get some tips as to how to troubleshot this issue thank you everyone...
[05:27] <peter_1898> mak69, You need to resize your partitions and make some free space
[05:27] <rusivi> Chaos2358 if your looking for a client only Ubuntu has built-in one Ekiga
[05:27] <peter_1898> mak69, then you need to format that free space as NTFS
[05:27] <peter_1898> mak69, I recommend using Gparted
[05:27] <izinucs> chicom9: using sudo you become root for the command at that time.. passwords can only be changed as root
[05:27] <lbt_> Hello world
[05:28] <peter_1898> Hello lbt_
[05:28] <chicom9> right but technically regular users are allowed to change their own password...
[05:28] <rusivi> Chaos2358 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid#Videoconferencing_and_VOIP
[05:28] <izinucs> chicom9: after entering their password in the gui or using sudo on cli
[05:28] <chicom9> which it fails now.. saying something like passwd: Authentication token lock busy
[05:28] <chicom9> cli
[05:28] <mak69> peter, how about partition manager
[05:28] <manyou> Hi all,
[05:29] <izinucs> chicom9: ah.. ok.. someone else will have to solve that one.. you're right there is an issue with the keyring it sounds like
[05:29] <chicom9> i have search google for almost everything says mount the / as rw... but i already have that..
[05:29] <lbt_> Bonjour tout le monde
[05:29] <chicom9> thanks thanks....
[05:29] <manyou> I'm trying to install ubuntu intrepid server version on a small system with an IDE drive. I can't seem to get disk-detect to find the drive during install. I've done some research on the net, but am not able to find a solution for this. There is a bug that has been filed for this issue that looks similar to what I'm facing, but no solution so far.
[05:30] <izinucs> manyou: why use an outdated and no longer supported version of ubuntu?
[05:30] <xangua> manyou: intrepid is no longer supported
[05:31] <manyou> izinucs, well this is a system that has only 128 MB RAm.
[05:31] <manyou> And I had the install disc handy, so :)
[05:31] <izinucs> manyou: well.. the memory factor isn't an issue..
[05:31] <rusivi> !fr | lbt_
[05:31] <manyou> Yeah, I guessed as much, but this bug here seems to be the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948069
[05:32] <kungfu12> Hi, I have problems with the network-manager. When I install it, it says, that the network-manager is not working, but nm-aplett is running and is sleeping
[05:32] <kungfu12> I am using WICD at the moment, but need to get the mobile internet working
[05:32] <xangua> !lubuntu
[05:32] <xangua> manyou: updated ubuntu+light lxde desktop=lubuntu
[05:32] <manyou> Pardon me, wrong link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/296263
[05:32] <izinucs> kungfu12: if you're using wicd then uninstall network manager.. they don't play well together.
[05:33] <wtfckd> Hello everyone I have a weird issue.
[05:33] <kungfu12> izinucs: I need network manager because of the mobile internet for g3
[05:33] <izinucs> kungfu12: pick one or the other.. you can't use both
[05:33] <manyou> I've prepared a USB drive so I figured it would merely be a question of copying in the required modules and trying the install again
[05:34] <kungfu12> izinucs: Is there an separate tool I can use especially for mobile internet?
[05:34] <wtfckd> I am trying to get into console mode but every time I try my cursor dissapears.
[05:34] <MrKeuner> I can connect to my vpn server (also verified on vpn server logs) once I connect the vpn I cannot access anything on the Internet, what could be the problem?
[05:34] <Ramza> Is there a way to choose a destination drive to install the mbr on when installing Ubuntu (10.10RC)?  I have a desktop with 6 hard drives, and no mbr's.  Went to install from usb drive and out of those 7 drives ubuntu choose to put the mbr on the flash drive...
[05:34] <izinucs> kungfu12: sorry I don't know.
[05:34] <Arrick> hey all, I am reading the man pages for wget, and I cant figure out the syntax for downloading a website with subfolders and etc, can someone help me out?
[05:34] <Leroy> witaf: try ctrl+alt+f2
[05:34] <kungfu12> izinucs: because if I unisntall WICD, I will have network manager, that isn't wokring
[05:34] <wtfckd> Leroy.
[05:34] <wtfckd> I tried all the way to 6.,
[05:34] <kungfu12> izinucs: thanks
[05:34] <Leroy> witaf: that will take you to full screen console
[05:34] <wtfckd> It does not even come up and freezez.
[05:34] <Leroy> wtfckd: ahh, word. hmmm
[05:34] <wtfckd> *freezes.
[05:35] <wtfckd> I can still see my wallpaper but no mouse or keyboard input.
[05:35] <wtfckd> ctrl+alt+7 brings back input.
[05:35] <rusivi> !maverick | Ramza
[05:35] <Leroy> wtfckd: sorry, idk. :(
[05:35] <wtfckd> :(
[05:35] <Leroy> i'll see if i can dig something up
[05:36] <Ramza> rusivi: Thanks
[05:36] <wtfckd> Is there a way to boot directly into console?
[05:36] <rusivi> Ramza: np
[05:36] <Leroy> do you have auto login wtfckd ?
[05:36] <wtfckd> Nope.
[05:36] <Leroy> isn't there a way to do it before you login?
[05:36] <Xristina_T> hello !
[05:37] <moetunes> use the recovery boot option wtfckd
[05:37] <wtfckd> I would love to try if there is Leroy :D
[05:37] <wtfckd> Moe.
[05:37] <wtfckd> How do I boot into recovery?
[05:38] <tensorpudding> wtfckd: It should be an option in the boot menu
[05:38] <wtfckd> I do not have one.
[05:38] <wtfckd> Only have ubuntu on this comp.
[05:38] <wtfckd> No other OS's.
[05:38] <wtfckd> So it boots directly into bunto.
[05:38] <wtfckd> *buntu.
[05:38] <FloodBot1> wtfckd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <tensorpudding> wtfckd: press left shift after the bios screen but before ubuntu starts
[05:39] <wtfckd> Ok and it will boot directly into console? OR  a mode similar to safe mode for windows and try console there?
[05:39] <peter_1898> It will load the boot menu I expect
[05:39] <wtfckd> I mean once I get into recovery.
[05:39] <tensorpudding> wtfckd: recovery mode will get you to a root shell
[05:39] <tensorpudding> wtfckd: i think
[05:39] <moetunes> yep
[05:39] <jules> nomadon
[05:39] <wtfckd> Lol well I will be back :D Hope to see ya guys and gals here, might need help.
[05:39] <Leroy> root shell ftw!
[05:40] <Leroy> ;)
[05:40] <Leroy> peaz wtfckd. good luck
[05:41] <jules> #ubuntu-fr
[05:41] <AbhiJit> jules, typr /j #ubuntu-fr
[05:41] <AbhiJit> type*
[05:42] <lbt_> hi all, is someone knows why aptitude is flanged on my system whereas synaptic is ok ?
[05:42] <AbhiJit> !details | lbt_
[05:43] <rusivi> !agreed
[05:43] <mak69> i got partition manger installed what next, i need to have windows on my pc
[05:43] <AbhiJit> rusivi, :D
[05:44] <tensorpudding> mak69: what do you intend to do?
[05:45] <moetunes> lbt_:  you can only have one of them open at a time
[05:46] <VineethJose> !help
[05:46] <Chaos2358> how can i install google voice app using 10.04
[05:46] <wtfckd> Back.
[05:46] <mak69> tensorpudding, i tried installing xp but was not able to do so as there was no free unpartioned space
[05:46] <wtfckd> Booting into recovery does nothing, it just hangs at a blank screen.
[05:46] <tensorpudding> mak69: you have ubuntu installed on the whole disk?
[05:47] <wtfckd> What could be the issue?
[05:47] <izinucs> Chaos2358: it works in conjunction with firefox and gmail..
[05:47] <mak69> tensorpudding, yup
[05:47] <moetunes> wtfckd:  it'll be your graphics driver then
[05:47] <Chaos2358> how?
[05:47] <qfluid> if I want to format a USB flash drive to UDF that I want to be able to read/write in Linux and at least readable in Windows, is there any particular blocksize or options I should use?
[05:47] <redman> hola
[05:47] <tensorpudding> mak69: it's a bit of a pain
[05:47] <wtfckd> Does recovery use stock graphics?
[05:48] <izinucs> wtfckd: nope.. no graphics.. command line
[05:48] <wtfckd> I have a g210m card on my laptop and the reason why I am trying to get into console is to install the correct drivers.
[05:48] <redman> hola alguien habla español
[05:48] <wtfckd> OH yeah. Dumb. Lol.
[05:48] <mak69> tensorprdding, ooops could you please help me?
[05:48] <rww> !es | redman
[05:48] <tensorpudding> mak69: you'll have to use gparted from a live environment to resize your ubuntu partition, install windows while being careful to prevent it from formatting the drive, then use a live environment to return GRUB to the MBR
[05:48] <wtfckd> So I'm up the river without a paddle since console is not working huh?
[05:49] <izinucs> wtfckd: should in recovery mode
[05:49] <wtfckd> It worked for a little than I alt+Ctrl + f7 and went out and tried going back in.
[05:49] <wtfckd> In recovery mode it hands izinucs.
[05:49] <wtfckd> A blank screen with no input.
[05:49] <wtfckd> *hangs
[05:49] <seidos> anyone know where i can find a list of binary files for the applications menu?
[05:50] <mak69> tensorpudding, after having gparted i can resize it from den and there right? grub to the mbr?
[05:50] <tensorpudding> mak69: you need to run it from a live environment, because you can't resize an active partition
[05:50] <lbt_> moetunes : to resume, i have installed ebox from zenthial, i have  desinstalled it and now , the only way to desinstall kind of package is synaptic because aptitude doesn't work
[05:50] <izinucs> seidos: what do you mean?
[05:50] <tensorpudding> mak69: which version of of windows is this?
[05:51] <wtfckd> Should I reinstall? IT will be the 6th time today.
[05:51] <seidos> izinucs, nevermind, figured it out
[05:51] <ubuntu1010server> how do I make a module load on reboot
[05:51] <moetunes> lbt_:  are you using maverick ubuntu?
[05:52] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, why on earth have you re-installed 5 times?
[05:52] <mak69> tensorpudding, i am willing to install either vista or xp as i am facing trouble accessing tv tuner card here, but i dont wish to format ubuntu either
[05:52] <lbt_> moetunes : lynx lucide
[05:52] <moetunes> k
[05:52] <tensorpudding> mak69: in general if you can back up your personal data on the ubuntu install, it'll be faster and simpler to format, install windows then reinstall ubuntu
[05:53] <wtfckd> I was an idiot and kept thinking I messed up the install because after installing the graphics drivers ubuntu told me to after reboot I would get a blank screen. Found out it's the driver that ubuntu told me to install that caused the blank screen.
[05:53] <wtfckd> So I looked online and seem to have found a fix.
[05:53] <wtfckd> But, the fix requires console.
[05:53] <moetunes> lbt_:  you could try   sudo apt-get install -f   to see if it fixes things
[05:53] <mak69> tensorpudding: but i wish to keep windows permanently alon with ubuntu
[05:53] <icarus-c> wtfckd, how did you install the graphic driver, and what card/drive is it
[05:54] <Flynsarmy> What's the location of the default jaunty desktop background? I want to copy it to my images folder so I can keep it
[05:54] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, have you tried booting from another kernel or pushing kernel params to get single-user mode?
[05:54] <moetunes> it'll be nvidia
[05:54] <Flynsarmy> Make that default lucid background
[05:54] <wtfckd> I did not intall it myself, an icon popped up that looked like a green pci card in the panel.
[05:54] <wtfckd> It told me that I needed to install it to basically get the most out of my graphics card, I beleive I read something about proprietary. and its a g210m.
[05:55] <wtfckd> DSAFE, I am sorry I do not know what that is.
[05:55] <antIP> Does it matter which partition table type you use to create a partition table on a drive?
[05:55] <moetunes> it'll be nvidia
[05:55] <tensorpudding> mak69: okay, if you really want to do it without formatting ubuntu
[05:55] <olskolirc_> kubuntu is dead and i got lonely - hi guys :-)
[05:55] <wtfckd> Yeah its nvidia.
[05:55] <wtfckd> I have the latest drivers but need to get into console to install them,.
[05:55] <tensorpudding> mak69: you need to make a bootable Ubuntu Live CD
[05:55] <hackey> having problems with movie player
[05:56] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, well the grub menu lets you edit the starting parameters for each kernel, and let you pick which kernel to boot from
[05:56] <wtfckd> Is a kernel an OS in linux terms?
[05:56] <olskolirc_> we need an audio/video program like Paltalk
[05:56] <olskolirc_> i can't stand using the paltalk express
[05:56] <tensorpudding> mak69: If you still have the CD/DVD that you installed Ubuntu with, you can use that.
[05:56] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, if you don't know what that is, you only have the one kernel to try, nevertheless you will be able to boot to a command prompt instead of straight to GUI
[05:56] <AbhiJit> what is the path for sources.list?
[05:56] <icarus-c> wtfckd, kernel is kernel.   generally when we say OS, we refering to kernel + system software
[05:56] <wtfckd> I have tried booting into command prompt DSAFE, via recovery correct?
[05:57] <rww> AbhiJit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:57] <lbt_> moetunes : thanks i have learned something this morning
[05:57] <AbhiJit> wtfckd, no
[05:57] <AbhiJit> rwat, ok
[05:57] <AbhiJit> :(
[05:57] <AbhiJit> rww, ok
[05:57] <moetunes> lbt_:  np :}
[05:57] <FloodBot1> AbhiJit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <tensorpudding> wtfckd: A kernel is the core of the OS, it's not able to run by itself, but it provides the basic routines which all the major system software runs on
[05:57] <wtfckd> So Gnome is  a kernel?
[05:57] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know the path of the default background images in lucid?
[05:57] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, windows has a kernel too, but it's much too frightening for anyone at microsoft to talk about
[05:57] <hiexpo> i had a  problem today also with a package and could not remove it also and tried -f install and also it would not work so what i did was search the file name and found it than gksu nautilus than went to it and deleted file and it fixed it
[05:58] <icarus-c> wtfckd, gnome is the desktop environment. not part of the OS technically
[05:58] <ElCerebr0> usr/share/background?
[05:58] <ectospasm> wtfckd: no, Gnome is not a kernle, and \DSAFEW\ Windows is not a kernel either
[05:58] <olskolirc_> try /usr/share/wallpapers Flynsarmy
[05:58] <icarus-c> wtfckd, linux kernel as in  NT kernel of Windows
[05:58] <\DSAFEW\> ectospasm, I said windows HAS a kernel
[05:58] <moetunes> !kernel
[05:58] <tensorpudding> Windows has a kernel, called NT, which is a few years short of being as old as Linux.
[05:58] <ectospasm> \DSAFEW\: I see that now.  Sorry
[05:58] <Lord_Nightmare> ok, can someone pleae explain this: bug (Ubuntu: #77010) was 'fixed' by disabling system beeps in several places in the system. can someone please please PLEASE tell me where those places are so i can undo that? i already fixed /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but my shell is still silent on an invalid autocomplete or when holding backspace and its making it VERY difficult for me to work
[05:58] <Flynsarmy> olskolirc_: ElCerebr0 thanks
[05:58] <wtfckd> I do not want to stray away from my issue with kernel talk :D But thanks. How would I go about fixing my ise?su
[05:58] <chicom9>  only root is able to change passwords, but not normal users. running strace gives the following error passwd: Authentication token mani"..., 48passwd: Authentication token manipulation error wondering if i could get some tips as to how to troubleshot this issue thank you everyone...
[05:58] <wtfckd> *issue.
[05:59] <Lord_Nightmare> the system has no speakers.
[05:59] <antIP> Would anyone suggest using a partition table type besides msdos?
[05:59] <Lord_Nightmare> and probably never will
[05:59] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, you can get into a recovery mode from the install CD, or edit the grub line and add "single" without the quotes to boot to single-user mode
[05:59] <AbhiJit> xxxx floodbot
[05:59] <\DSAFEW\> someone tell him if I'm wrong
[06:00] <wtfckd> Can I use a live usb to get into recovery?
[06:00] <Lord_Nightmare> wtfckd: you can also add init=/bin/sh to boot
[06:00] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, yep, if you can boot to it on your computer
[06:00] <icarus-c> Lord_Nightmare, grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe*/*
[06:00] <Lord_Nightmare> icarus-c: already solved that, but one sec
[06:00] <hiexpo> systemrescuecd
[06:00] <wtfckd> and how would I get into recovery after I boot to the live usb?
[06:00] <nobarking> whats a good cbr comics reader for kubuntu?
[06:01] <Lord_Nightmare> icarus-c: i could well have only partly solved it
[06:01] <olskolirc_> ubuntu recover sux wtfckd  you have to chroot and mount somewhere else and all that i NEVER was able to recover my system always wound up reinstalling
[06:01] <\DSAFEW\> What would be the command for wtfckd to boot without a GUI coming up automatically?
[06:01] <icarus-c> Lord_Nightmare, if you see a line "blacklist pcspkr"   that is what disable the system beep
[06:01] <Lord_Nightmare> jonathan@jzgs:~/zerstoren$ grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe*/*
[06:01] <Lord_Nightmare> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf:# blacklist pcspkr
[06:01] <Lord_Nightmare> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf~:blacklist pcspkr
[06:01] <Lord_Nightmare> not anymore
[06:01] <FloodBot1> Lord_Nightmare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <g0st> So, I downloaded an ebook series (which are all in PDF format) but they are password protected.  I downloaded and installed John the Ripper, but I dont know how to make it crack the password... anybody have any suggestions?
[06:01] <olskolirc_> Im beginning to miss mandriva b/c all you do is put the cd in, click recover and click reinstall grub and get your dual boot back after installing windows
[06:02] <icarus-c> Lord_Nightmare, so if you want to enable system beep,  remove  "blacklist pcspkr" line from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or vice versa
[06:02] <rusivi> mak69: one thing that is very helpful for those who want to use both Windows & Ubuntu seemlessly is to virtualize one within the other (I use Ubuntu as host, Windows as Guest, VirtualBox as virtualization platform)
[06:02] <wtfckd> Ugh I would not mind reinstalling but would rather not.
[06:02] <hiexpo> g0st, don'tdo it at all
[06:02] <Lord_Nightmare> icarus-c: already done that
[06:02] <g0st> I want to read the books...
[06:02] <tensorpudding> g0st: I don't think that John the Ripper supports PDF files
[06:02] <g0st> ahh
[06:02] <hiexpo> the books are a front
[06:02] <icarus-c> Lord_Nightmare, and you may want to probe pcspkr module to enable it for the current session too
[06:02] <DaMiEn667> 3arqay
[06:02] <Lord_Nightmare> already done that
[06:02] <Lord_Nightmare> and it works fine in xchat
[06:02] <tensorpudding> g0st: JtR is only for OS passwords.
[06:02] <Lord_Nightmare> i hear backspace beeps and everything
[06:03] <Lord_Nightmare> BUT
[06:03] <\DSAFEW\> g0st, the books are a lie
[06:03] <G0di-> hey, can i have a host ?
[06:03] <Lord_Nightmare> not in xterm
[06:03] <FloodBot1> Lord_Nightmare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <icarus-c> G0di-, what do you mean
[06:03] <wtfckd> Anyone? Should I just reinstall?
[06:03] <Lord_Nightmare> FloodBot1: i'm NOT flooding, dammit!
[06:03] <g0st> thats a bummer, on all counts
[06:03] <tensorpudding> g0st: check the last line of John the Ripper's page
[06:03] <G0di-> icarus-c:  llike Godi.from.rep.dom
[06:03] <tensorpudding> g0st: it includes links to some pay software which does it
[06:03] <rusivi> Lord_Nightmare: hehe
[06:03] <olskolirc_> can someone tell me why my cwp weather server stopped running?  icon been spinning for two days
[06:03] <icarus-c> G0di-, you want to set a hostname or host a server or what
[06:04] <G0di-> hostname icarus-c
[06:04] <wtfckd> Ok, guess a reinstall it is. Be back in 15 minutes.
[06:04] <hiexpo> g0st, even after filling and doing you will still never get the pass word but someone got your backdoor
[06:04] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, you can try to boot to "single" mode, then install the correct drivers and reboot, that's the safest bet, re-installing is a waste of time
[06:04] <Lord_Nightmare> what i suspect the issue is is a define in the kernel, something along the lines of HDA_DISABLE_SYSTEM_BEEPS is responsible
[06:04] <wtfckd> Ok.
[06:04] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, when grub comes up, press "E" to edit
[06:04] <Lord_Nightmare> i'm not CERTAIN that's the case though
[06:05] <\DSAFEW\> wtfckd, or something like that
[06:05] <wtfckd> I beleive it is E.
[06:05] <wtfckd> Then what?
[06:06] <g0st> well, i guess ill have to look around for another compilation or get them individually
[06:06] <icarus-c> G0di-, edit /etc/hostname
[06:06] <icarus-c> g0st, and then edit /etc/hosts as well
[06:06] <wtfckd> I got it. BRB SAfe :D
[06:06] <G0di->  /msg HostServ SETALL G0di- Godi.pwned.you
[06:07] <g0st> icars-c: sorry?
[06:07] <icarus-c> g0st, i meant G0di :P
[06:07] <G0di-> icarus-c:  bro, i meean here, in irc
[06:07] <G0di-> :D
[06:08] <G0di-> i dont want to see mi ip :D
[06:08] <icarus-c> G0di-, i'm not sure.  ask in #freenode maybe
[06:09] <G0di-> icarus-c:  thx  bro, im new on linux :D
[06:09] <G0di->  have problem with the sounds :S
[06:09] <Chaiwalla> hello
[06:09] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I'm having issues with the RC.  When I boot up, the computer hangs on the splash screen.  I booted instead into the Live CD.  What do I do now?
[06:09] <jdsbluedevl> I also asked the +1 room, but nobody's there
[06:09] <antIP> gParted creates msdos partition table by default. Under what conditions would I want to choose another partition table type?
[06:10] <rusivi> jdsbluedevl: heh I was just about to !maverick | you
[06:10] <the_file> c
[06:10] <the_file> df
[06:10] <jdsbluedevl> nvm, I see people coming in now
[06:10] <the_file> asdf
[06:10] <\DSAFEW\> !maverick
[06:11] <Poofyball> does ubuntu work with tablet pc's
[06:11] <Lord_Nightmare> icarus-c: any other ideas?
[06:11] <MACscr> how do i install phpmyadmin without it including apache2? im already using nginx. I know i can install from source, but i would prefer to use apt-get for easy updates
[06:11] <Poofyball> will it
[06:12] <Chaiwalla> Problem:  When I boot up ubuntu, it shows my desktop pictures, and desktop icons (Home, Recycle Bin etc.) for a few seconds, then it HIDES THE DESKTOP BACKGROUND and the ICONS.  and shows me a plain BROWN background.  How do I fix this?
[06:12] <Poofyball> will ubuntu work with a tablet pc?
[06:12] <Poofyball> touch screen?
[06:12] <AbhiJit> MACscr, sudo apt-get phpmyadmin
[06:12] <sweetpi> !patience | Poofyball
[06:12] <AbhiJit> MACscr, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[06:12] <Lord_Nightmare> Poofyball: depends on the model, i think.
[06:12] <Poofyball> ?
[06:12] <Lord_Nightmare> depends on the specifics of the touchscreen
[06:13] <Poofyball> on what?
[06:13] <Poofyball> it's an older
[06:13] <Lord_Nightmare> and how the computer communicates with it
[06:13] <Poofyball> so it's just a give it a try and find out
[06:13] <Lord_Nightmare> if its serial and uses the old common protocol which CRTs used, i believe it does work but you may have to hand configure it in the x config files
[06:13] <Lord_Nightmare> i know nothing more than that :(
[06:14] <rusivi> Poofyball: Try the Live CD and find out!
[06:14] <Poofyball> very well
[06:14] <rusivi> Poofyball: let us know how it goes and what eq u have, be cool to know.
[06:14] <ElCerebr0> what is the best alternative to DVDFab for ubuntu?
[06:15] <icarus-c> ElCerebr0, what does dvdfab do
[06:15] <AbhiJit> favulous dvd
[06:15] <AbhiJit> b*
[06:15] <wtfckd> Hey everyone, I tried the single user thing it did not work.
[06:15] <Lord_Nightmare> Poofyball: yeah, let us know how it works out, I'm curious to know if it works
[06:15] <icarus-c> ElCerebr0, dvd rip? and stuff like that?
[06:15] <wtfckd> I'm on the live usb right now and guess what? Console works on live usb.
[06:15] <Lord_Nightmare> wtfckd: did you try booting off usb with boot init=/bin/sh ?
[06:16] <wtfckd> No I did not.
[06:16] <icarus-c> ElCerebr0, brasero which comes with ubuntu does that.
[06:16] <Poofyball> if i have a mouse and a keyboard i should have no problem tho right
[06:16] <Lord_Nightmare> yes
[06:16] <wtfckd> Where would I put that command lord?
[06:17] <wtfckd> Anyway, I have a question, can I install a graphics driver if I am in console via live usb?
[06:17] <wtfckd> Like would the changes be permanent?
[06:17] <rusivi> Poofyball: Ideally, no problem. In your situation, we will have to see ;)
[06:17] <genewitch> how do i tell ubuntu 10.04 to use a different video driver? its using r300 it needs to use r482 (i think)
[06:18] <icarus-c> genewitch, xf86 radeon driver handles automatically
[06:18] <Helena> mflgm
[06:18] <Poofyball> can i flip it?
[06:19] <Poofyball> like to landscape mode?
[06:19] <genewitch> icarus-c: it's not. when i come out of suspend or hibernate the screen artifacts and restarting gdm does not fix it
[06:19] <genewitch> icarus-c: driconf reports R300, but i have an xpress 200m
[06:19] <Chaiwalla> Problem:  When I boot up ubuntu, it shows my desktop pictures, and desktop icons (Home, Recycle Bin etc.) for a few seconds, then it HIDES THE DESKTOP BACKGROUND and the ICONS.  and shows me a plain BROWN background.  How do I fix this?
[06:19] <Chaiwalla> it sux
[06:19] <rusivi> genewitch: I had the same problem with post-hibernate visual GUI glitching
[06:19] <Poofyball> icarus-c?
[06:19] <wtfckd> Forget it.
[06:19] <Poofyball> didn't katzklaw make an ircd called icarus
[06:19] <Poofyball> lol
[06:20] <wtfckd> Reinstalling ubuntu now as I type.