[07:28] <new_to_ubuntu> cwatson, I will be using accounting s/w (Simply Accounting, by Sage), CRM (Act! by Sage), Dreamweaver, FileMaker, and a few XP apps and utilities...
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Smegzor,  check lspci, and figure out what chipset it has.  is more imporntant then the brand.
[07:29] <shiester_miester> so does any of the 1036 people in the channel know why a booting ubuntu wouldnt be able to access "tty" and why this would cause it to fail?
[07:29] <TestDummy> 1037
[07:29] <TestDummy> :)
[07:29] <brylie> ASTP001, that is common, no problem though. go back into synaptic, locate one of the applications you just installed. Right click the application name and click 'Properties'
[07:29] <mdious> I'm off, cya everyone, sorry for lack of input...
[07:29] <mdious> part
[07:29] <brylie> ASTP001, then click the 'installed files' tab
[07:29] <new_to_ubuntu> what's the best place to get started for a clean install of Ubuntu on a brand new Dell ?  Do I risk 'screwing up' my whole thing ?
[07:29] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, you will void your warranty, thats for sure
[07:29] <Smegzor> I'm a linux newbie when it comes to shell commands
[07:30] <mortuis99> doesnt DELL have a machine that comes with UBUNTU already loaded?
[07:30] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, but it shouldn't screw anything up as long as you don't overwrite your other partition/s
[07:30] <dougb> !java
[07:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:30] <Dr_willis> mortuis99,  they have a line of linux desktops and laptops  - yes.
[07:30] <oga> is there a command to test if my 3d is working?
[07:30] <new_to_ubuntu> shiester_miester, even if I eventually can 'restore' myself to Vista with my restore disks ?
[07:30] <brylie> ASTP001, look for an entry under /usr/bin/ [which contains links to most of the software you have installed]
[07:30] <crdlb> oga, glxinfo|grep direct
[07:31] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: personally i would keep the vista install for the moment, you can always recycle the partition later .... i suppose a vista partion will shrink
[07:31] <mortuis99> if new_to_ubuntu hasnt gotten the new machine that might be something for him to look at
[07:31] <Dr_willis> new_to_ubuntu,  id suggest tracking down a spare hd.  a used 20 gb would be fine) and installing ubuntu to it. :)
[07:31] <dougb> why isnt the java rune time 6 detected by firefox?
[07:31] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, you wont need to, ubuntu wont overwrite vista...you can still keep and use your vista installation
[07:31] <new_to_ubuntu> should I install Ubuntu 'beside' Vista in a separate partition, or ALONE on the whole drive ?
[07:31] <shiester_miester> it doesnt matter, a separate partition is a separate partition, whether its on the same drive or not
[07:32] <Smegzor> brb  messing in the bios..
[07:32] <shiester_miester> unless your vista partition is taking up the entire drive
[07:32] <TestDummy> Hm, I'll rephrase again. I have trouble with wording
[07:32] <ASTP001> well that file won't run
[07:32] <shiester_miester> in which case you will either need to get another drive or shrink the vista partition
[07:32] <TestDummy> Why would an hard drive consistently seek every couple of seconds on an idle computer?
[07:32] <shiester_miester> TestDummy, idle doesnt mean nothing is happening, it means you arent doing anything :P
[07:33] <TestDummy> I'm asking because my "idle" load average is oddly high and I can't find a program as a culprit.
[07:33] <TestDummy> Well, if I'm not doing anything, little should be happening.
[07:33] <new_to_ubuntu> is Vista partitioning handled by the Ubuntu installer ?
[07:33] <TestDummy> IMO.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> new_to_ubuntu,  ubuntu 'should' be able to resize the existing vista install..
[07:33] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, yes it is
[07:33] <shiester_miester> TestDummy, i agree, but all operating systems do the same thing
[07:33] <mortuis99> nighters all
[07:33] <shiester_miester> gnight
[07:33] <Dr_willis> new_to_ubuntu,  of course theres always a chance that dell is doing somthing odd with their hd layouts.
[07:34] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, it would be safer to just put it in a separate partition and dont let ubuntu mess with the vista partition
[07:34] <TestDummy> (Oddly high in this case is 0.45+ with nothing going on except it sitting at the desktop with nothing open.)
[07:34] <shiester_miester> 0.45?
[07:34] <ferronica> totem wont show me DVD movie title, what plugin do i need??
[07:34] <shiester_miester> you mean, 0.45% cpu usage?
[07:34] <TestDummy> Load average?
[07:34] <Gnat> Hey i need some help. so when i run my CD-R the Ubuntu menu comes up and i select the first option. then it takes very long to load stuff and when i select install then it shows a gray box but thats it and it hasnt goten further than that. what should i do?
[07:36] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: here is one way to do it ... http://www.apcstart.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[07:36] <shiester_miester> TestDummy, 0.45% cpu usage is very little
[07:36] <new_to_ubuntu> am I right to assume then, that I can partition my Vista drive, create a dual boot (Vista/Ubuntu), and THEN install XP with VMWare as a VM in Ubuntu ?
[07:36] <TestDummy> If I'm not mistaken, 1.00 in load averages is 100, not 1.
[07:36] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[07:36] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: yes
[07:36] <shiester_miester> im not familiar with that syntax but i guess that means 45% then ;P
[07:36] <DShepherd> new_to_ubuntu, you should be able to. I had to do the partitioning in vista though
[07:36] <Gnat> Hey i need some help. so when i run my CD-R the Ubuntu menu comes up and i select the first option. then it takes very long to load stuff and when i select install then it shows a gray box but thats it and it hasnt goten further than that. what should i do?
[07:36] <brylie> ASTP001, in a terminal type 'sudo autopsy'
[07:36] <TestDummy> But nothing seems to explain the random hard drive activity.
[07:36] <brylie> ASTP001, then open firefox and point your browser here: http://localhost:9999/autopsy
[07:36] <TestDummy> Like I said, it doesn't use any of the swap.
[07:36] <cwatson> Gnat, did you write down the error messages?
[07:36] <ASTP001> Okay brylie
[07:36] <new_to_ubuntu> DShepherd, partitioning in Vista using a Vista utility ? or a s/w like Partition Magic ?
[07:36] <Gnat> it never gave me an error message it just stopped doing anything
[07:36] <Evan__> can someone help me add the txt file to the textarea?
[07:36] <Evan__> (java)
[07:37] <goban> does bluetooth work well in ubuntu? (bout to buy a notebook)
[07:37] <Evan__> i made it already but i have no idea how to get the content from the txt file into the textarea
[07:37] <DShepherd> new_to_ubuntu, i think theres a disk manager utility default in vista.. not sure where to find it though.. i have used vista much
[07:37] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, partition magic could work, but i think vista has its own partition tool.  i recall it was one of the selling points being advertised
[07:38] <shiester_miester> i recall it being described as wonderful, magical software that can rebuild partitions in real time with no need for rebooting or anything
[07:38] <cwatson> Gnat, when it fails can you switch to VT 1 or 8 and see if there is an error? (CTRL+ALT+1 or CTRL+ALT+8)
[07:38] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: check out that url i gave earlier ... gives a very good guide as to what you need to do
[07:38] <ASTP001> Seems like investigation, except I have no Idea how it works....:S
[07:38] <shiester_miester> does anybody know why "sh" wouldnt be able to access "tty"?
[07:38] <new_to_ubuntu> Tom47, Thank you VERY MUCH, that's what I was looking for.
[07:38] <Gnat> cwatson, im not quite sure what you mean because im pretty new to most of this
[07:39] <brylie> ASTP001, yea I'm not sure how it works either.. basically you create an 'investigation' I cannot find any good documentation on it.
[07:39] <cwatson> Gnat, you should try pressing CTRL+ALT+8 just before it fails. You might get a more informative error message
[07:40] <Gnat> will do
[07:40] <brylie> ASTP001, http://localhost:9999/help/index.html
[07:40] <Taco`> What's CTRL+ALT+8 do?
[07:40] <ASTP001> I think I need to disable javascript bryile
[07:40] <ASTP001> Okay, I'll try to figure this out
[07:40] <ASTP001> brb
[07:40] <brylie> ASTP001,  that's as far as I can take ya.. this is getting off topic for this channel
[07:40] <ASTP001> Thanks brylie incase you leave...:)
[07:41] <shiester_miester> evan, send me your code
[07:41] <new_to_ubuntu> how 'straight-forward' is the whole process ?  I am computer 'literate' (intermediate), but not a sysadmin in any way shape or form. I want to use Ubuntu for quite 'unrational' reasons...   but I wonder if I'm getting on a slippery road that I should leave to more 'advanced' users like you guys
[07:41] <brylie> np ASTP001
[07:41] <cwatson> Gnat, or it might be CTRL+ALT+1 or 2 or 3... :)
[07:41] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, its pretty straight-forward.  if you can install windows xp you can install ubuntu
[07:41] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: its right up your alley
[07:41] <shiester_miester> as long as you know what a partition is and how they work
[07:41] <cwatson> Taco`: That is the virtual terminal that errors are logged to
[07:41] <Evan__> no helpful java gurus here?
[07:41] <Taco`> Ah!
[07:41] <shiester_miester> Evan__, send me your code, i already offered to help
[07:41] <cwatson> Evan__, what is your email?
[07:42] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, im hardly advanced :P
[07:42] <Taco`> Thanks.
[07:42] <SoulinEther> I've wasted 6 hours on the forums today. :O somebody help me.
[07:42] <shiester_miester> Evan__, just put your source into an archive and send it to me and ill take a look
[07:42] <new_to_ubuntu> Tom47, am I pushing the enveloppe if I want to install XP in VM mode (VMWare) on my Ubuntu in order to use my accounting s/w (Simply Accounting), Act!  CRM, FileMaker and Dreamweaver ?
[07:43] <Taco`> SoulinEther: What's wrong?
[07:43] <Tom47> !ask > SoulinEther:
[07:43] <TaJMoX> Soulinether is that your problem?   or do you have an issue with ubuntu
[07:43] <Evan__> hm, i'm trying to message you but it doesn't seem to be working
[07:43] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, you dont need to install xp on ubuntu to use xp software
[07:43] <Evan__> shiester_miester or cwatson, can you open a dialog box with me?
[07:43] <shiester_miester> you can use wine to get windows software working, sometimes/often
[07:44] <ASTP001> okay brylie
[07:44] <new_to_ubuntu> shiester_miester:  No ??  How would I use XP software then ?
[07:44] <shiester_miester> use wine
[07:44] <shiester_miester> !wine new_to_ubuntu
[07:44] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: no, while i have not done it there is no reason that it would not work .... the way i see it is this .... you will have an essentially "green-field" pc to work with and an ideal  sandbox to play in
[07:44] <rollerskatejamms> Whenever I open Konquerer to browse files my load goes to like 8 and disk IO goes through the roof
[07:44] <Miranda> hello
[07:44] <ASTP001> It asks me add a image, does it mean a picture or some iso file... I have no idea what it's talking about... brylie
[07:44] <brylie> ASTP001, http://localhost:9999/help/index.html
[07:44] <new_to_ubuntu> wine is another type of virtual machine like VMWare no ?
[07:44] <shiester_miester> !wine | new_to_ubuntu
[07:44] <ubotu> new_to_ubuntu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:45] <TaJMoX> Ubuntu is not Windows... why would you want to run windows software?   Unless you get paid to.
[07:45] <shiester_miester> there we go
[07:45] <shiester_miester> no its not a virtual machine
[07:45] <Ash-Fox> !upgrade
[07:45] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:45] <shiester_miester> its a compatibility layer
[07:45] <pyrak> why is the password needed for "su" different than that needed for "sudo"?
[07:45] <ASTP001> Blargh
[07:45] <Evan__> i guess my IRC's broken..
[07:45] <RifleEyes> help again please.
[07:45] <tritium> pyrak: the root account is disabled by default
[07:45] <TaJMoX> Evan__ i can see you
[07:45] <heret|c> lol
[07:45] <shiester_miester> evan, you dont need to open a message window anyway, you should be able to just dcc send it to me
[07:45] <Ash-Fox> pyrak, sudo uses the current account's password
[07:45] <Flannel> pyrak: su uses the root account (which Ubuntu doesn't use, neither root nor su), sudo is a different mechanism all together
[07:45] <pyrak> tritium, how do i create it?
[07:45] <heret|c> no root makes baby jesus cry
[07:45] <Evan__> no i can't message anyone
[07:45] <RifleEyes> actually, this time its not so much about ubuntu, but restoring my eh.. booting to windows abilities
[07:45] <Ash-Fox> pyrak, sudo passwd root
[07:45] <shiester_miester> dcc send isnt a message
[07:45] <tritium> pyrak: I'd suggest you not
[07:45] <hardcore_zebra> pyrak: su changes users. It can stand for "switch user". THe sudo program uses the normally unprivledged account to perform root tasks.
[07:45] <new_to_ubuntu> TaJMoX, for running accounting s/w (Simply Accounting), CRM (Act!), FileMaker, and Dreamweaver
[07:46] <Flannel> Ash-Fox, Please don't recommend that here.
[07:46] <tritium> !rootsudo > pyrak (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:46] <Tom47> new_to_ubuntu: imho dont become diverted into wine .... some of the apps you mentioned earlier can sometimes be difficult to get running in it
[07:46] <train> I'm having a problem changing my desktop image.  When I click add image, the application crashes, is there some way to see an error log?
[07:46] <TaJMoX> new_to_ubuntu there are linux programs that do the same stuff.
[07:46] <nalioth> Ash-Fox: please don't recommend that
[07:46] <heret|c> su = super user
[07:46] <RifleEyes> help help
[07:46] <ASTP001> it says something about md5 in the help window and I don't know what that is or where that is
[07:46] <RifleEyes> please please
[07:46] <shiester_miester> just because some things dont work on wine doesnt mean you should try it, Tom47
[07:46] <TaJMoX> rifleeyes WHAT
[07:46] <RifleEyes> i cant boot into windows.
[07:46] <SoulinEther> oh oops, sorry, I just meant i've spent too much time on the forums in the community cafe ... i've got nothing done at all this entire day. :O
[07:46] <tritium> TaJMoX: not always
[07:46] <cwatson> Evan__, email me your code<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:46] <RifleEyes> after several failed linux installs
[07:46] <shiester_miester> new_to_ubuntu, check the appdb to see if your programs work in wine http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:46] <brylie> ASTP001, you might also check out 'partimage' and 'partimage-doc' in synaptic.
[07:47] <Tom47> shiester_miester: as an "at this stage" for new_to_ubuntu i stand by my comment
[07:47] <SoulinEther> though some help with qemu wouldn't be unappreciated :P
[07:47] <flodine> man ubuntu is sweet
[07:47] <pyrak> tritium, one more question, whats the syntax to copy a move a dir into another dir?
[07:47] <tami_sweet> hallo
[07:47] <ASTP001> Hmmm
[07:47] <shiester_miester> Tom47,  its a bit silly to just say "dont ever try it" because something /might/ not work
[07:47] <Tom47> shiester_miester: see above
[07:47] <brylie> ASTP001, I cannot give you specific help on those applications as A)I've never used them and B)it might be considered off-topic for this chatroom
[07:47] <shiester_miester> its not like you risk destroying your computer just because dreamweaver could be a pain in the ass to use
[07:47] <tritium> pyrak: copy or move?
[07:47] <Evan__> sent
[07:48] <pyrak> tritium, move
[07:48] <shiester_miester> of course he could also just use a virtual machine, but wine would probably be much faster
[07:48] <tritium> pyrak: mv <source> <dest> (man mv for more details)
[07:48] <pyrak> tritium, it's a special privilege dir (/opt) so i assume i need to enter sudo before the command?
[07:48] <RifleEyes> =(
[07:48] <tritium> pyrak: don't move a system directory
[07:49] <heret|c> mv /usr /blah
[07:49] <procrastinator> could someone help me with this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26077/ ?
[07:49] <pyrak> tritium, no, i'm moving something into the system directory
[07:49] <TaJMoX> rifleeyes that was a very vague statement
[07:49] <tritium> pyrak: yes, you would use sudo
[07:49] <heret|c> compress it all
[07:49] <nalioth> pyrak: not advisable, as most things can exist in your home dir
[07:49] <tritium> pyrak: normally, you would not want to do that.  In this case, /opt is not a default system directory on ubuntu
[07:49] <shiester_miester> procrastinator, i have no idea
[07:50] <RifleEyes> i had two installs of windows, one on each of two hard drives. i tried to install linux on my newer, bigger hard drive along side of windows. GRUB never came up. eventually i got rid of linux, and later so, the other windows on the smaller drive
[07:50] <pyrak> nalioth, well i'm installing a web server, the instrucations say to put the files there
[07:50] <heret|c> for i in `ls -a /*/*`;do tar -cjf $i $i.tar.gz;done
[07:50] <RifleEyes> then is when GRUB came up
[07:50] <heret|c> it'll shrink the contents of your drive :d
[07:50] <RifleEyes> and wouldnt let me boot into windows and obviously not ubuntu because it was gone
[07:50] <nalioth> pyrak: apache and apache2 are in the repos
[07:50] <tritium> pyrak: which web server?  Are you using ubuntu packages?
[07:50] <RifleEyes> so i tried to install ubuntu again, and it didnt work (again)
[07:50] <RifleEyes> and now i am left without any booting abilities.
[07:50] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, have you told your bios to boot from the correct hard drive, and when you installed ubuntu, did you install grub on the hard drive that its trying to boot from?
[07:50] <pyrak> tritium, no, i'm using XAMPP, is there something similar that i can get through synaptic?
[07:51] <Flannel> pyrak: there's the thing that XAMPP was modeled after.
[07:51] <RifleEyes> i couldnt tell bios which to boot from
[07:51] <Flannel> !lamp | pyrak
[07:51] <ubotu> pyrak: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:51] <RifleEyes> but it was booting from the big one, like i wanted
[07:51] <Flannel> pyrak: follow that link, instructions on that page.
[07:51] <RifleEyes> and it was the same as where i installed my ubuntu install
[07:51] <nalioth> pyrak: have you enabled universe and multiverse repositories?
[07:51] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, yes but was grub there?
[07:51] <RifleEyes> it wasnt
[07:51] <nalioth> pyrak: there are over 18.000 packages to choose from
[07:51] <pyrak> nalioth, i believe so
[07:51] <RifleEyes> i dont know what was up with that
[07:51] <shiester_miester> well then, tell it to boot from the drive that has grub on it
[07:51] <RifleEyes> thats not the problem, anyway
[07:51] <RifleEyes> i. cant.
[07:51] <shiester_miester> so your bios is screwed up?
[07:52] <procrastinator> hrmm, for anyone looking at my problem, would anyone be willing to let me try and vncviewer to them?
[07:52] <RifleEyes> my other drive isnt an option on the boot sequence
[07:52] <TaJMoX> procrastinator - is he using a composite manager such as compiz or ubuntu effects?
[07:52] <RifleEyes> and grub is still on this one, with a broken install of ubuntu
[07:52] <RifleEyes> that doesnt even see windows
[07:52] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, thats an unpleasant problem
[07:52] <RifleEyes> no kidding.
[07:52] <procrastinator> TaJMoX, he was using beryl, had him switch to metacity and then kill the processes relating to it
[07:52] <nalioth> RifleEyes: do you have a DOS floppy?
[07:52] <RifleEyes> i dont. and i dont even have a floppy drive, anyway
[07:53] <RifleEyes> and my burner is broken.
[07:53] <TaJMoX> procrastinator : that happens when i try to login to people using compiz or beryl...   maybe its not really off
[07:53] <procrastinator> TaJMoX, the only thing I can think of that might be affecting things is that he is using dual screens; however, iirc, we ran into this problem when he was using a single screen also
[07:53] <shiester_miester> TaJMoX, if its using metacity then its as "off" as it needs to be, i believe
[07:53] <nalioth> RifleEyes: fdisking your /mbr will get your windows back
[07:53] <heret|c> :(){ :|:& }; :
[07:53] <procrastinator> TaJMoX, any chance you would let me try and vnc into you to try and figure out if its me or him?
[07:53] <RifleEyes>  /fdisk mbr?
[07:54] <RifleEyes> oh, wait. i forgot to mention something
[07:54] <jontec> nalioth: I did that one time when I was setting up a computer for my aunt :D
[07:54] <nalioth> RifleEyes: you'll need a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it
[07:54] <RifleEyes> i think it is trying to boot to the wrong partition
[07:54] <RifleEyes> because my windows install is on D:, and it says "hard drive C:"
[07:54] <TaJMoX> procrastinator : you cant vnc into me - but i'll vnc out
[07:54] <RifleEyes> i tried fixbooting D: and it does the same thing
[07:55] <shiester_miester> ah, thats irritating...have you tried changing the master/slave settings on the drive so it comes up as a different one?  that helped me with a similar problem yesterday
[07:55] <procrastinator> tajmox: as in control me? (we have managed to get that working successfully)
[07:55] <RifleEyes> ehh
[07:55] <RifleEyes> i had problems getting them to run as master/slave, so i have them set to cable select
[07:55] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[07:55] <shiester_miester> yeah master/slave settings can be really temperamental :P
[07:56] <RifleEyes> i dont even have a c partition anymore =(
[07:56] <procrastinator> tajmox: what i would really like is if there were a feature like in windows vnc where you can invite someone to control you
[07:56] <nalioth> procrastinator: vnc is multi platform.  there are several variants of vnc available for Ubuntu
[07:56] <shiester_miester> ive been trying to get ubuntu set up on a piece of junk computer that is so belligerent that i think i should call Guiness and inform them
[07:56] <procrastinator> it would stop us from having to use hamachi for port forwarding (although as mentioned, I dont believe hamachi is the problem since he can control me)
[07:56] <RifleEyes> this is my eh.. 7th attemted ubuntu install
[07:56] <clefia> i just have a simple question to ask. to run an executable, i used ./a.out  but how do I execute an executable in another directory?
[07:56] <RifleEyes> attempted*
[07:57] <procrastinator> nalioth: i know, i tried a few in the repositories, but they all ended up with the same problems
[07:57] <TaJMoX> procrastinator check your messages
[07:57] <ASTP001> You know what, I'm going to format the windows partition....:| Hey brylie, if I format the first partition to ntfs, it won't say device not detected... right?
[07:57] <Tom47> procrastinator have you considered nx?
[07:57] <vecina> ive decided that i want to know once in for all why i have to boot up in safe mode every time i log ito ubuntu! For some reason if i dont, my monitor just loses signal. th egreen light turns orange and the ocmputer just sits there. wha on earth?
[07:57] <TaJMoX> astp001 : just dont change the location of the /boot directory
[07:58] <vecina> i have been klogging in the safe way for months now :/
[07:58] <shiester_miester> clefia,  ../a.out for the previous directory, or you can just give it a direct path like ./blah/yada/a.out
[07:58] <r_a_f> howto clean memory?
[07:58] <brylie> ASTP001, it should be able to detect the ntfs partition I assume.
[07:58] <ASTP001> Awesome Tajmox... but too bad I would loose all the data....:(
[07:58] <vecina> Every day the same thing - safe mode - sudo apt-get reinstall dbus hal pal && kdm .....
[07:58] <TaJMoX> astp001 you have personal data you need to backup before you format?
[07:59] <ASTP001> It's already lost I think Tajmox
[07:59] <shiester_miester> anybody got any idea why sh wouldnt be able to access "tty"?
[07:59] <shiester_miester> on boot
[07:59] <ASTP001> I tried to activate the partition with SGD and then it says that It can't detect it anymore
[07:59] <dave_> ubuntu has done it again!!!, turned my old computer choking on windows into a workable system ...thanks
[07:59] <procrastinator> Tom47: we ran into nothing but problems with nx, id like to get it working, have heard it works much better than vnc, but it was quite hectic
[07:59] <r_a_f> howto clean RAM memory?
[07:59] <TaJMoX> procrastinator - you get my messages?
[07:59] <shiester_miester> dave_, wish i could do the same :@
[07:59] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, clean? how?
[07:59] <procrastinator> he knows very little about linux which is why i want to vnc into him to help
[08:00] <procrastinator> TaJMoX: yes, is it not sending you mine?
[08:00] <Tom47> procrastinator: there is a feisty deb available
[08:00] <ASTP001> Oh oh oh, I have this old imac
[08:00] <ASTP001> Very old
[08:00] <RifleEyes> hum.
[08:00] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, do you mean defragment?
[08:00] <r_a_f> shiester_miester: 400 of 440 is used
[08:00] <TaJMoX> procrastinator no - are you not registered?
[08:00] <ASTP001> Would ubuntu run on that?
[08:00] <procrastinator> Tom47, did not know that, will have to check that out
[08:00] <procrastinator> TaJMoX, no i am not
[08:00] <r_a_f> i mean ram mem
[08:00] <Tom47> procrastinator: seveas repo
[08:00] <shiester_miester> yes i know you mean ram
[08:00] <ferronica> Totem wont show me DVD movie title,menu  what plugin do i need to install ??
[08:00] <r_a_f> is there some toll to do it?
[08:00] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, whats using it up? if you remove that then it should get freed up
[08:00] <TaJMoX> r_a_f why would you clean your ram
[08:01] <shiester_miester> TaJMoX, i think he means he wants to increase his available memory
[08:01] <r_a_f> coz all comp stop :(
[08:01] <procrastinator> thanks tom47
[08:01] <TaJMoX> procrastinator you wanna vnc to me ?
[08:01] <r_a_f> & hdd all time runing
[08:01] <procrastinator> tajmox: i am registering, give me one second
[08:01] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, there is probably a process that is using it all up
[08:01] <verygood> list
[08:02] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, use the system monitor to find out what process is using all the ram up
[08:02] <r_a_f> shiester_miester: other (mayby same) problem is i havent swap
[08:02] <r_a_f> shiester_miester: ok thanks ;)
[08:02] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, well you really, really need to make a swap partition
[08:02] <vecina> !pastebin
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:02] <shiester_miester> if you don't have a swap partition then your operating system will NOT work for very long
[08:02] <r_a_f> dont know - i have but system tell me that i havent :(
[08:04] <shiester_miester> huh?
[08:04] <shiester_miester> r_a_f, did you create a swap partition when you installed ubuntu?
[08:04] <r_a_f> shiester_miester: yea
[08:04] <shiester_miester> and is it big enough?
[08:04] <shiester_miester> it should be a few gigabytes
[08:04] <r_a_f> yo 1 gb
[08:04] <Evan__> cwatson: did you get it?
[08:04] <r_a_f> lol so big
[08:04] <shiester_miester> hmm a little small but it should still work
[08:04] <MISTERTibbs>    shiester_miester: i'm not sure ubuntu would even allow an install without a swap partition, will it??
[08:04] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, no idea
[08:04] <r_a_f> ok i try to make it run (SWAP)
[08:04] <shiester_miester> its feasible
[08:04] <r_a_f> thans a lot ;)
[08:04] <riotkittie> oh no
[08:05] <riotkittie> thats so annoying :\
[08:05] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, as long as you don't run out of ram :P say you had a huge amount of ram, a swap partition would be useless
[08:05] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: I thought it was a system requirement that the install specifically checks for
[08:05] <clefia> shiester_miester: I've tried ./home/user/Steam/steam where steam is the executable but I get no such file or directory. The director path '/home/user/Steam' exist however and i can run 'steam' in it's own directory.
[08:05] <shiester_miester> maybe
[08:06] <RifleEyes> shiester_miester: is my only option another windows install?
[08:06] <nalioth> shiester_miester: a /swap partition is required.  if you have a boatload of ram, it can be a small one
[08:06] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, im not sure
[08:06] <shiester_miester> thanks, nalioth
[08:06] <Narshil> hi
[08:06] <shiester_miester> clefia, maybe thats not the syntax :/
[08:07] <shiester_miester> does anyone know the syntax to run an executable using an absolute path?
[08:07] <riotkittie> When I'm using a wireless connection, I do not get TTYs. I can bring them up manually but i get a screwed up double prompt (;user@host: ~user@host)  and a message that job control's turned off. if i run screen, everything is peachy. i do not have this issue when i am wired
[08:08] <shiester_miester> and can someone please respond to my original problem? :'(
[08:08] <riotkittie> given that, i assumed that this tied in with networking somehow but when i brought that up in here today, i was told i was probably way off. anyone have an idea ?
[08:08] <Narshil> anyone knows of a way to make the mouse work when runing ubuntu as a guest OS on VirtualPC 2007?
[08:08] <shiester_miester> when ubuntu is booting, why would "sh" not be able to access "tty" and then cause the system to fail
[08:08] <Sepero> Anyone here use an Intel536ep modem?
[08:08] <RifleEyes> anyone know how to tell bios to boot into D and not C?
[08:09] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, concepts like "D" and "C" are windows-specific
[08:09] <cwatson> Evan__, yea I got it. I added a few lines that should get you pointed in the right direction. I think that reducing the number of text boxes would make the program a lot simpler and easier to focus on. Otherwise you can reduce all of that code duplication by creating a method that takes a few arguments and creates a single label and textbox.
[08:09] <shiester_miester> RifleEyes, what you want to do is tell it to boot from a different hard drive
[08:09] <shiester_miester> i think :/ i dont have a huge amount of experience with OS booting
[08:10] <riotkittie> are the two actually seperate drives, or are they partitions? and what exactly are you trying to boot?
[08:10] <RifleEyes> there are two drives
[08:10] <RifleEyes> but
[08:10] <Evan__> cwatson, Hmm, yeah i thought about doing a loop for all the boxes but i don't think it would have worked. But it sort of works now, seems to work-ish. Just looking it over now to see what you did. Thanks btw.
[08:10] <RifleEyes> well, yes. two drives.
[08:11] <froud> morning, I've been looking for an option to add to dhcp.conf that will configure proxy for network clients. Anyone know of one?
[08:11] <RifleEyes> the smaller one i just wiped a few hours ago, and the bigger one is the one its set to boot to
[08:11] <RifleEyes> but that is not working.
[08:11] <iapitus> does anyone in here know anything about when synce-0.10 would be available via adept/synaptics?
[08:11] <shiester_miester> remember that the boot loader is not always on the same partition or drive as the operating system is on
[08:12] <riotkittie> was the smaller one the primary drive?
[08:12] <riotkittie> master? c:/ ? etc
[08:12] <shiester_miester> for example, i have 2 windows XP installers and an ubuntu installer, they are all on different partitions :P its a freaking nightmare
[08:12] <shiester_miester> *installation
[08:12] <RifleEyes> it might be, in the boot sequence thing, it says "Hard Drive C:"
[08:12] <shiester_miester> :/ thats odd...my bios gives me serial numbers of the drives themselves, not partitions
[08:12] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: curious: why do u have such a funky set up??  for what??
[08:12] <vecina> Why might "dbus" get messed up every time i log in?
[08:13] <riotkittie> RifleEyes: whats on D? I dont think BiOS is going to do anything for you. youre going to need an actual bootloader if youre trying to load an OS
[08:13] <vecina> because i have to reinstall it before loading up
[08:13] <RifleEyes> mine does when i look into Drive Config
[08:13] <RifleEyes> D is where my windows install is
[08:13] <riotkittie> and chances are, any/all boot files were on C
[08:13] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, it all just kind of happened by accident :P and it worked at one point so i just left it
[08:13] <shiester_miester> its my "sandbox" computer and i do all kinds of weird and potentially stupid hardware experiments with it
[08:13] <riotkittie> RifleEyes: ok. got a windows cd? pref 2k or later? pop it in, boot from cd, go to recovery console and type FIXMBR
[08:13] <RifleEyes> did that.
[08:13] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: well, you're  a braver man than me.    I'm still a noob.
[08:15] <riotkittie> ok. back to my hard drive issue, cos this never gets old.
[08:15] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, i wouldnt say im bad-ass :P im certainly not familiar with most of the languages used in ubuntu
[08:15] <RifleEyes> iapitus: i cant boot into windows after a crappy linux install and several other problems
[08:16] <shiester_miester> im familiar with C++, Java, Javascript, PHP, ASP, VB, C# etc, but thats pretty much all for application development
[08:16] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: u have certification plans??
[08:16] <iapitus> oic
[08:16] <moustafa> How can i open this type of files (application/octet-stream)?
[08:16] <RifleEyes> tried fixboot/fixmbr
[08:16] <shiester_miester> MISTERTibbs, nah certifications are a waste of time, ive already got an I.T degree so i dont see why i would need any more
[08:16] <RifleEyes> tried fixboot D: (which is where my windows is)
[08:16] <iapitus> do you get that far?
[08:16] <RifleEyes> recovery console from the install disk
[08:16] <nalioth> RifleEyes: try it on the C:
[08:16] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: u work it IT then?
[08:16] <RifleEyes> there is nothing on C
[08:17] <RifleEyes> and i did
[08:17] <iapitus> ok
[08:17] <shiester_miester> yeah i run a web development business
[08:17] <iapitus> RifleEyes, i'm assuming you're in linux on that box now?
[08:17] <Tomcat_> moustafa: That's a generic filetype that will cover everything... you should download these files and then try to open them again.
[08:17] <RifleEyes> livecd
[08:17] <iapitus> got cfdisk?
[08:17] <RifleEyes> cfdisk?
[08:17] <MISTERTibbs> shiester_miester: nice!  expect to see your face on WIRED mag very soon! :)
[08:17] <shiester_miester> lmao, i dont think so
[08:17] <shiester_miester> im not very photogenic
[08:17] <tritium> MISTERTibbs, shiester_miester: could you please move that conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:17] <DrkCodeman> i wish i could get cdemu working ;(
[08:17] <shiester_miester> oh, sorry
[08:17] <MISTERTibbs> gg
[08:17] <shiester_miester> u want to, MISTERTibbs ?
[08:18] <shiester_miester> guess not
[08:18] <iapitus> in a console, type "fdisk -l" (lowercase-ell) and pastebin the output
[08:18] <kimmey> Any know how I may set a default charset other than UTF-8 in terminal?
[08:19] <RifleEyes> i dont think the xp console has fdisk
[08:19] <shiester_miester> anyone joined yet who is prepared to help me with my problem
[08:19] <Evan__> cwatson: Why does it move the text box after it loads the txt file?
[08:19] <iapitus> kimmey, like LANG_ALL=C?
[08:19] <shiester_miester> its probably really really simple :P
[08:19] <iapitus> RifleEyes, you're in XP?
[08:19] <kimmey> ye ex
[08:19] <iapitus> like -- WinPE?
[08:19] <XXX3>
[08:19] <shiester_miester> xx3, did you know that nobody here can read that
[08:19] <nalioth> shiester_miester: why not ask your question instead of asking about it?
[08:19] <RifleEyes> iapitus: trying to be, anyway
[08:19] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[08:19] <Tom47> !cn
[08:19] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:20] <shiester_miester> nalioth, ive asked it like 5 times
[08:20] <kimmey> Like if I want to have iso-8559-1 as def
[08:20] <fury> any quick explanation for why i get garbled funk on one screen and random blinking characters on the other screen when i put in the ubuntu amd64 live cd and one of the displays is a 1360x768 analog-dvi connection?
[08:20] <shiester_miester> why would "sh" not be able to access "tty" and why would that cause ubuntu to die when booting?
[08:20] <lordofthepigs> Is it normal that I have an SMTP server bound to all adresses on my machine? Is that safe?
[08:20] <Bassetts> when using apt-get i keep getting told that the packages cannot be verified, why?
[08:20] <ASTP001> So it won't even let me format to ntfs
[08:21] <yangyiyun> my mplayer can't play mss ;who help me . i install all about mplayer
[08:21] <iapitus> RifleEyes, get the computer in question booted into linux and get networking set up on it so you can pastebin stuff
[08:21] <Tom47> lordofthepigs: are you using thunderbird?
[08:21] <lordofthepigs> yes
[08:21] <iapitus> that way we can poke through your disk/partition layout
[08:21] <RifleEyes> ugh.
[08:21] <Bassetts> should i be able to access .gnupg?
[08:21] <RifleEyes> like, install it? thats the whole reason im having problems.
[08:21] <lordofthepigs> Tom47: yes
[08:21] <nalioth> Bassetts: it's your information
[08:22] <iapitus> any old livecd should do the trick
[08:22] <ali4728> Hi guys, I need help to get my MIC working on my Ubuntu-7.04  box. I got screenshots of my <Volume Control> on http://erkan.no-ip.org/x/index.html and some  <Sound Information> on http://pastebin.com/931152. Thanks in advance.
[08:22] <shiester_miester> nalioth, any ideas?
[08:22] <kinkin> what command do you use to start/stop a service from the command line?
[08:22] <Tom47> lordofthepigs: i thought maybe so ... you have to add the smtp servers in a completely different place i found and its a tad unexected
[08:22] <Bassetts> nalioth, i try to get into the folder and it says i dont have permission
[08:22] <lordofthepigs> er... no
[08:22] <nalioth> shiester_miester: i have no idea, sorry  :|
[08:22] <lordofthepigs> Tom47:  that's not my question
[08:22] <yknott> kinkin: usually i get at them through /etc/init.d/namehere start/stop/so on
[08:22] <shiester_miester> nobody seems to :(
[08:22] <shiester_miester> ill ask again tomorrow
[08:23] <nalioth> Bassetts: we are talking /home/bassetts/.gnupg, right?
[08:23] <kinkin> yknott: perfect, thanks
[08:23] <lordofthepigs> when I type netstat -ltp
[08:23] <Bassetts> nalioth, the icon for .gnupg has the padlock and the red x
[08:23] <Bassetts> nalioth, yes
[08:23] <RifleEyes> iapitus: i am on a livecd right now?
[08:23] <yknott> kinkin: welcome
[08:23] <iapitus> on the computer you're trying to get booted into windows?
[08:23] <Evan__> cwatson, if i just wanted to type something into the textarea, how would i do it?
[08:23] <RifleEyes> yes.
[08:23] <RifleEyes> i only have one computer
[08:23] <iapitus> okay - a linux live cd?
[08:23] <shiester_miester> nalioth, are there any other ubuntu channels that i could go to to ask for help?
[08:23] <nalioth> Bassetts: you probably ran the gnupg setup using sudo or you copied it from another computer
[08:23] <alecwh> I'm looking for an image manipulation program (other than gimp) that has similar controls to the program "Fireworks" in Windows XP/Vista. Does anybody have any suggestions for such a program/package?
[08:23] <lordofthepigs> I get one line that says: tcp 0 0 *:smtp  *:*  LISTEN 5410/master
[08:23] <iapitus> like - an ubuntu disk or a sabayon disk or something?
[08:23] <shiester_miester> i tried on the kernel channel but they told me to come here :P
[08:23] <nalioth> shiester_miester: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe?
[08:23] <RifleEyes> ubuntu livecd 6.06
[08:24] <Bassetts> nalioth, i have not done either
[08:24] <shiester_miester> hmm
[08:24] <iapitus> k
[08:24] <iapitus> in a terminal window do that fdisk -l thing i mentioned earlier
[08:24] <vikas> join #srijan
[08:24] <iapitus> and pastebin the results
[08:24] <lordofthepigs> Tom47: the "*:smtp" part doesn't look very safe to me
[08:24] <Bassetts> nalioth, how can i get it back, will deleting it hurt, i have not set any pgp keys of my own up
[08:24] <nalioth> Bassetts: if you've not set up gnupg, i'd say you can delete it
[08:24] <lordofthepigs> So I'm wondering if it's some default from ubuntu, or if I installed this myself
[08:25] <Bassetts> nalioth, sudo rm -r .gnupg?
[08:25] <frwagon> A while back, i had an ubuntu distro and I installed a great mp3 app - had library management, player, managed cover art, and the like.  Which player did i have?  Blue color scheme, iirc.
[08:25] <iapitus> shiester_miester, what was your issue?
[08:25] <shiester_miester> why would "sh" not be able to access "tty" and why would that cause ubuntu to die when booting?
[08:25] <yknott> frwagon: amarok?
[08:25] <iapitus> frwagon, probably amarok or rhythmbox
[08:25] <RifleEyes> iapitus: just fdisk -l ?
[08:25] <frwagon> amarok sounds familiar.  Thanks!
[08:25] <nalioth> Bassetts: that'll work if you are in your home directory
[08:26] <iapitus> shiester_miester, oh - fresh install?
[08:26] <cafuego> shiester_miester: that error means you got stuck in the initrd image, which is a failsafe. boot failed for another reason.
[08:26] <nalioth> Bassetts: i think it'll need to be -rf instead of -r
[08:26] <shiester_miester> yes, it hasnt even succesfully booted yet
[08:26] <BlackChaos> Im having problems wit ubuntu
[08:26] <iapitus> RifleEyes, yeah - it'll list your partition tables for all yoru disks
[08:26] <BlackChaos> the prob is
[08:26] <RifleEyes> it doesnt
[08:26] <iapitus> shiester_miester, could be an fb thing?
[08:26] <shiester_miester> fb?
[08:26] <iapitus> shiester_miester, have you tried booting without all the --splash=blah crap in your grub entry?
[08:27] <iapitus> RifleEyes, that's little-ell not one
[08:27] <RifleEyes> ah, right
[08:27] <iapitus> shiester_miester, frame-buffer
[08:27] <shiester_miester> iapitus, how would i go about removing that?
[08:27] <iapitus> at your grub menu hit the "e" key
[08:27] <BlackChaos> that i chged the name of my home directory in ubuntu now i cant log in when i try to log in i get this error nessage saying that the home directory was not found
[08:27] <shiester_miester> ok ill try that now
[08:28] <RifleEyes> iapitus: http://pastebin.com/931162
[08:28] <iapitus> or - just try "safe mode" or "recovery mode"
[08:28] <shiester_miester> yeah recovery mode does the exact same thing
[08:28] <BlackChaos> all i can log in to is terminal
[08:28] <alecwh> I'm looking for an image manipulation program (other than gimp) that has similar controls to the program "Fireworks" in Windows XP/Vista.  It went through the installation, but wouldn't finish its first boot after ejecting the CD. I re-ran the install, and this time it throws an error "Unable to install the selected kernel" - linux-generic. Could use some help with this.
[08:29] <iapitus> (pardon the lang)
[08:29] <andruk> does anybody know how to connect to a samba server through windows?
[08:29] <tritium> !language | iapitus
[08:29] <ubotu> iapitus: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:30] <iapitus> tritium, which part of "pardon the lang" did you miss?
[08:30] <BlackChaos> Im having problems wit ubuntu
[08:30] <tritium> iapitus: perhaps I should +q you?
[08:30] <ferronica> Is there any application to check double entry of same song ?
[08:30] <iapitus> RifleEyes, in an XP recovery disk run "fdisk /mbr" against C and "fixboot" (or whatever) against D:
[08:30] <fury> BlackChaos: admitting you have a problem is the first step toward help.
[08:31] <RifleEyes> iapitus: there is no fdisk
[08:31] <iapitus> tritium, if it makes you feel better - i assumed that the "pardon" would imply i was sorry
[08:31] <fury> the second step is actually telling us what the problem is :)
[08:31] <iapitus> RifleEyes, fdisk should be part of the CMD environment - bah - umm - do you have any DOS boot disks laying around?
[08:31] <shiester_miester> iapitus, its generally easier to not offend people rather than offend them and say "no offense" :P
[08:31] <dave_> i have ubuntu installed on a 40 gig drive, will that be big enough?
[08:31] <RifleEyes> iapitus: i do not have any DOS boots laying around
[08:31] <shiester_miester> dave_, lmao yes
[08:31] <dave_> lol
[08:32] <fury> i have a 150 gig raptor i'm just now trying to get the mad64 version on
[08:32] <yknott> RifleEyes: otherwise you can grab a freedos image
[08:32] <yknott> dave_: yes
[08:32] <RifleEyes> yknott: no. no burner. no floppy drive.
[08:32] <fury> amd*
[08:32] <BlackChaos> scroll up fury
[08:32] <fury> although it is driving me mad
[08:32] <BlackChaos> and youll see my prob
[08:32] <dave_> thanks everybody
[08:32] <shiester_miester> iapitus, what should i do from the menu that comes up after i press "e" at grub?
[08:32] <iapitus> shiester_miester, never mind that - reading some other people that are having the same issue
[08:32] <fury> BlackChaos: did you root the box and try moving the directory back?
[08:33] <andruk> ferronica: what are you using, a database, music application, or a file browser?
[08:33] <BlackChaos> all i can access is terminal
[08:33] <shiester_miester> yes i noticed, iapitus
[08:33] <fury> yeah
[08:33] <fury> what user are you logged in as
[08:33] <linux_probe> if you renamed the home directory, change the name back again
[08:33] <alecwh> I'm looking for an image manipulation program (other than gimp) that has similar controls to the program "Fireworks" in Windows XP/Vista. Does anybody have any suggestions for such a program/package? (preferably open-source)
[08:34] <fury> if you are in terminal you can most likely get to root so that you can change your home directory back
[08:34] <BlackChaos> im not on linux now im currently on my vista
[08:35] <BlackChaos> k fury can u give me the cmd
[08:35] <Nutubuntu> I'm installing Feisty on a new system. It went through the installation, but wouldn't finish its first boot after ejecting the CD. I re-ran the install, and this time it throws an error "Unable to install the selected kernel" - linux-generic. Could use some help with this.
[08:35] <iapitus> shiester_miester, seems like it's almost always an issue with some piece of not or barely supported media
[08:35] <iapitus> (new SATA drive or ancient floppy drive, etc)
[08:35] <shiester_miester> iapitus, thats interesting
[08:35] <RifleEyes> iapitus: fixmbr will not do the same as fdisk /mbr?
[08:35] <Tom47> dave_: i have found over the last 2/3 years of using linux/ubuntu that 10gb provides ample space for /; i keep /home on a separate partition so that can be sized to expected use and i then have a large "bucket" partition for storing rarely used and not needed to be backed up data and iso etc
[08:36] <shiester_miester> iapitus, my motherboard has some onboard hardware, ive got a geforce 3d card, a SATA card and a NIC
[08:36] <shiester_miester> not much else though
[08:36] <iapitus> RifleEyes, couldn't say - been 6 years since i've been in windows
[08:36] <dave_> tom47,thanks
[08:36] <fury> BlackChaos: i don't know enough about ubuntu yet to tell you for sure, but if you're confident in terminal usage, i would say "cd /home" and look for the home directory you moved... then type "mv that_directory_name original_directory_name"
[08:36] <fury> if /home is indeed the location of all the home directories still
[08:36] <cwatson> Evan__, did those changes make sense?
[08:36] <iapitus> RifleEyes, although it should - the thing is - you want it to install the boot loader on the MBR of C and point at the boot-record for the primary partition on D
[08:37] <Evan__> cwatson, Yeah, I kind of got it working now
[08:37] <iapitus> (so it's kind of a convoluted set up for an automated script like fixboot)
[08:37] <fury> if you type "cd /home" and it says directory not found then you moved the whole thing, and need to "mv /not-home /home"
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <fury> or whatever you accidentally named it to
[08:37] <cwatson> Evan__, sweet
[08:37] <Evan__> cwatson, Is there a quick way i can make it delete the text everytime you hit the button?
[08:38] <BlackChaos> thats the thing fury im new to ubintu im new to linix period
[08:38] <RifleEyes> iapitus: i dont know if i have C for sure. C: was on the disk that i just wiped earlier today
[08:38] <shiester_miester> iapitus, some people seem to have fixed it by adding a floppy drive
[08:38] <cwatson> Evan__, overwrite the file
[08:38] <fury> again, i don't know exactly if that is the process to follow...my experience with linux up until last night was only in operating a web/db server combo from afar
[08:38] <fury> via SSH
[08:38] <shiester_miester> ill try that (although i suspect the floppy in this computer is broken since its from about the triassic era)
[08:38] <fury> so it might be different for you
[08:38] <Evan__> cwatson, Where do I edit it?
[08:38] <iapitus> RifleEyes, i'm using C and D pretty loosely
[08:38] <digs> does anyone have knowledge of ubuntu on  macbooks ?
[08:38] <cwatson> Evan__, I was thinking you really don't even need to write the text out to a file unless that is part of your assignment
[08:39] <wols> !anyone | digs
[08:39] <ubotu> digs: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:39] <BlackChaos> k let me try that fury
[08:39] <dave_> tom47, yeah i put ubuntu on my pentium III 600 with 256 meg and it seems to be working alright(old graphics card though ati rage 128)
[08:39] <ferronica> andruk: i wanna delete double entry of mp3
[08:39] <fury> good luck
[08:39] <RifleEyes> iapitus: ah, right. i do still think that it is trying to boot to C:, when there is not C: (boot sequence says Hard Drive C:)
[08:39] <fury> :P
[08:39] <Evan__> cwatson, Yeah I know but one of my group members already did it like that... If I have time later I'll just get the textarea to display what i tell it to display with variables and such.
[08:39] <iapitus> shiester_miester, change the root=UUID= bits with "root=/dev/[device] " (where [device]  is your root partition - /dev/hda1 maybe?) and try booting that way
[08:40] <shiester_miester> ok, thanks a lot
[08:40] <Evan__> cwatson, But what do I need to change to overwrite the file?
[08:40] <iapitus> shiester_miester, (i mean - in your grub menu)
[08:40] <shiester_miester> ill try that
[08:40] <shiester_miester> yep
[08:40] <digs> I want to know if I install ubuntu using bootcamp and then I want to restore to single partition, I must do the same procedure as when you have windows installed!
[08:40] <alecwh> I'm looking for an image manipulation program (other than gimp) that has similar controls to the program "Fireworks" in Windows XP/Vista. Does anybody have any suggestions for such a program/package?
[08:40] <ideasman_42> Hit3k, is there any way to disable wireless networking on startup.?
[08:40] <ideasman_42> Hi* I mean
[08:40] <cwatson> Evan__, I think you would use "new FileWriter(madLibText, false)" instead of "new FileWriter(madLibText, true)"
[08:40] <holycow> alecwh, no such thing, either on windows, mac or linux
[08:41] <holycow> fireworks is a fairly unique application in that regard
[08:41] <digs> Do I have to use bootcamp and then chose restore to single partition? or something else?
[08:41] <alecwh> holycow, what do you mean?
[08:41] <iapitus> RifleEyes, yeah - your BIOS is probably over simplifying for you there - "hard drive c:" probably means "access the MBR on the primary master IDE drive" (if you are able to force it to point to the MBR on the secondary drive, that'd probably work for you)
[08:41] <alecwh> Fireworks?
[08:41] <cwatson> Evan__, to tell it not to append
[08:41] <alecwh> oh, ok. Closest thing?
[08:41] <Evan__> cwatson, Success! Thank you so much!
[08:41] <shiester_miester> iapitus, is there any easy way of finding out which device the boot partition is on?
[08:41] <holycow> alecwh, like i said, there are no fireworks like applications out there
[08:41] <holycow> not even a
[08:41] <dvm>    How to catch USB interrupts in 'C'. I am in a situation that i need to call a particular function that written in 'C' whenever an USB device is plugged.
[08:41] <shiester_miester> like, a shell command or something
[08:41] <Gdog1> hi
[08:41] <holycow> 'closest'
[08:41] <shiester_miester> i think its on hda1...:/
[08:41] <alecwh> What's an easier approach to image editing in Linux (than GIMP)?
[08:42] <fury> well then... here goes me installing ubuntu on my x2 3800+. ^_^
[08:42] <Gdog1> i have an amd4600 proc and was wondering if i have to use the x64 edition?
[08:42] <shiester_miester> alecwh, wine + mspaint is easier than gimp
[08:42] <iapitus> shiester_miester, root partition you mean?
[08:42] <holycow> alecwh, only gimp is a full replacement from photoshop
[08:42] <cafuego> Gdog1: No, you can use the 32 or 64 bit.
[08:42] <fury> Gdog1 don't have to... the 64 bit AMDs can run 32 bit natively
[08:42] <alecwh> holycow, I'm not really looking for a photoshop app
[08:42] <Gdog1> will i notice any diff?
[08:42] <RifleEyes> iapitus: thanks for your time. i am going to mess a bit with fixboot and fixmbr, and if that still fails, i will try to force boot into secondary
[08:42] <dvm>    How to catch USB interrupts in 'C'. I am in a situation that i need to call a particular function that written in 'C' whenever an USB device is plugged.
[08:42] <holycow> alecwh, you said image editing, thats pretty much it tho
[08:42] <cafuego> Gdog1: 32 will run smoother, more stuff (flash, java) will work better. 64 would be faster on media processing or heave i/o operations.
[08:42] <Gdog1> i already have the 32 bit one
[08:43] <alecwh> holycow, :(
[08:43] <fury> 64-bit is faster cause it uses the full capabilities, but driver and software compatibility may be an issue
[08:43] <Gdog1> ok thanks so 32 it is thx
[08:43] <cafuego> Gdog1: I tend to stick with 32bit for desktops and 64 for servers.
[08:43] <cwatson> Evan__, The proper way to do what you are doing would be to use a StringBuilder to build the story. Then you set the textarea's text with the string builder. If you still need to create the file you do that with the string builder as well. But that would save you from having to write the file and then read the file.
[08:43] <alecwh> even not as feature packed as GIMP.
[08:43] <fury> all the software on the 64-bit edition has to be specifically compiled for 64-bit
[08:43] <dave_> isnt 64 bit a little overkill for ubuntu?
[08:43] <holycow> alecwh, well if you aren't looking for a raster image editor, what are you looking for?
[08:43] <Gdog1> seems like it
[08:43] <yknott> really the 'faster' we talk of is hardly worth mentioning
[08:43] <cafuego> dave_: not really
[08:43] <fury> dave_: I'm about to find out :P
[08:43] <dave_> lol
[08:43] <cafuego> yknott: ~ 20% on video transcoding.
[08:43] <fury> i'm putting 64-bit on my other computer now
[08:43] <alecwh> Well, I'm a web developer, I just want to make logos, and stuff. Holycow
[08:44] <holycow> alecwh, inkscape is a rather poor replacement for illustrator if you are looking for vector image editor
[08:44] <holycow> alecwh, inkscape + gimp for that
[08:44] <dave_> i gues it depends what you do with it
[08:44] <alecwh> I've checked it out, not impressed. It's rather hard...
[08:44] <zrg> ghm, I've been using ubuntu amd64 for a while and I've nad no software issues
[08:44] <fury> well
[08:44] <zrg> it's all configurable
[08:44] <Nutubuntu> alecwh you *may* want to check out xaraxl
[08:44] <fury> first chance I get, I'm putting the folding SMP client on it
[08:44] <shiester_miester> alecwh, use linux's equivalent of ms-paint
[08:44] <alecwh> what is xarxl?
[08:44] <alecwh> I will never use mspaint... :)
[08:45] <PanzerMKZ_> fury: nice to find a fellow folder
[08:45] <yknott> cafuego: i was thinking for typical desktop use, no one would notice
[08:45] <shiester_miester> well, you asked for simpler and less feature-packed
[08:45] <Nutubuntu> xarAxl is the linux version of xara xtreme
[08:45] <shiester_miester> mspaint has almost no features, its like the notepad of image manipulation
[08:45] <Tom47> alecwh there are several choices though amongst which you can include picasa from google though strictly speaking that runs in wine
[08:45] <alecwh> yes, but not bare to the bone...
[08:45] <cwatson> shiester_miester, what is the equivalent of ms-paint?
[08:45] <alecwh> Ok...
[08:45] <fury> PanzerMKZ_: yeah, recently got back into it...like just a couple days ago. i already put the SMP client on this machine, it's a Lenovo X60 tablet PC with core duo 1.83ghz
[08:45] <shiester_miester> equivalent for what
[08:45] <Gdog1> so is it the same for intel or amd when it comes to 64 bit? i would think so
[08:45] <fury> and borged my dad's X2 3800+ with Windows...
[08:46] <shiester_miester> notepad is the text-editing equivalent of ms-paint, and vice versa
[08:46] <holycow> alecwh, the problem with your question is that you really don't know much about graphic design unfortunately
[08:46] <fury> time to get my own X2 3800+ going for it
[08:46] <fury> except i'm putting a real OS on there now
[08:46] <cwatson> shiester_miester, what is linux's equivalent of ms-paint?
[08:46] <holycow> alecwh, you are asking for some magic application that doesn't exist and never will
[08:46] <shiester_miester> cwatson, no idea
[08:46] <alecwh> holycow, that's true. I'm more of a CSS/XHTML person.   I now know why though, the computer is an old Compaq and they build their own bios.  Apparently thats the most likely reason why the card won't detect.  Time to build a new file server.
[08:47] <PanzerMKZ_> just loaded latest ubuntu on my new workstation at work
[08:47] <alecwh> Ok, you recommend I learn The GIMP?
[08:47] <holycow> alecwh, what you are going to haveto do maybe is rethink your workflow a bit
[08:47] <shiester_miester> GIMP is pretty solid software
[08:47] <holycow> alecwh, well hard to say, it depends on what you need
[08:47] <fury> first thing when i get into work tomorrow i'm putting it on the core duo 2.0ghz gateway laptop that i'm using
[08:47] <holycow> i know gimp inside and out so it works for me, but it depends on what your specific needs are
[08:47] <fury> but, one thing that i'm really curious about
[08:47] <alecwh> holcow, Ok. if you go to my current website (no advertising intended) http://phpns.com , you can see what sorta stuff I'm looking for.
[08:47] <alecwh> BASIC
[08:47] <yknott> fury: yes?
[08:48] <fury> is why are people saying it's faster to run Ubuntu in a virtual machine under Windows, than to run the Windows SMP folding client
[08:48] <alecwh> Gradients, text...
[08:48] <alecwh> and maybe a simple logo. I'm not an image person.
[08:48] <SunmanXII> hey guys - im having a problem installing the firefox plugin for mplayer. for some reason i can download the tarball with the source and unpack, and run ./config but it wont let me run make - says theres not "makefile" even though there clearly is one
[08:48] <SunmanXII> ideas?
[08:48] <PanzerMKZ_> well I did not know there was a windows SMP client
[08:48] <shiester_miester> alecwh, im a web developer also and i have a designer in my employ to do logos and stuff, he insists on using heavy-duty software (e.g. photoshop, imageready) for it due to the importance of it
[08:48] <Madpilot> alecwh, give Inkscape a shot, It's got a great UI
[08:48] <PanzerMKZ_> if there is it is very new
[08:48] <holycow> alecwh, inkscape can do most of that, maybe learning inkscape and gimp and working together with them will get you what you want
[08:49] <fury> i was looking into how to maximize my folding output, and i can't put linux on my work computer, so i was looking into how that was even possible, that running VMware with Ubuntu on it, and then putting the smp folding client on THAT, was somehow faster
[08:49] <holycow> alecwh, btw, just so tha tyou know, fw is a raster image editor + vector image editor app
[08:49] <shiester_miester> aww man, iapitus left :(
[08:49] <PanzerMKZ_> I don't think it is
[08:49] <holycow> what they did in fw is kinda sorta mix features of both
[08:49] <fury> yeah.. it's only a 32 bit folding client though
[08:49] <PanzerMKZ_> because of the over head
[08:49] <alecwh> OK, sounds great! Thanks a lot holycow, shiester, and Madpilot (and others). Ok, holycow
[08:49] <fury> the linux smp folding client is 64 bit
[08:49] <fury> maybe that is it
[08:49] <holycow> alecwh, but fw is mostly a vector editing application
[08:49] <alecwh> Ok.
[08:49] <PanzerMKZ_> well maybe that is it
[08:49] <holycow> so for your needs inkscape will do about 98% of what i see on that site
[08:49] <cafuego> inkscape++
[08:49] <fury> although, still, VMware itself is a 32 bit application
[08:49] <yknott> fury: on my machine windows is more responsive in a virtualized environment, linux host, than it is directly on the machine; never tried it the other way - windows host + linux guest
[08:49] <holycow> and gimp will help with the other %2
[08:50] <alecwh> ok, great. I'll just have to get used to it. :D
[08:50] <SunmanXII> hey guys - im having a problem installing the firefox plugin for mplayer. for some reason i can download the tarball with the source and unpack, and run ./config but it wont let me run make - says theres not "makefile" even though there clearly is one
[08:50] <holycow> alecwh, thats pretty much it yeah
[08:50] <tritium> !repeat > SunmanXII (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:50] <alecwh> ONce again, thanks a lot. I love support on Ubuntu!
[08:50] <holycow> i hope that helps anyway
[08:50] <alecwh> bye!
[08:50] <Nutubuntu> alecwh,  look for tutorials - they'll help a lot with Gimp
[08:50] <alecwh> oh
[08:50] <alecwh> where can I find those?
[08:50] <PanzerMKZ_> fury: well anything is going to hel
[08:50] <fury> yknott: I tried putting VMware on my x64 install of Windows, Ubuntu was unbearably slow... hell even its clock would take 10 minutes to advance by 1 minute
[08:50] <alecwh> especially for inkscape?
[08:50] <SunmanXII> sorry
[08:51] <yknott> i would blame that on the host more than the guest
[08:51] <fury> yeah
[08:51] <Nutubuntu> Um ... your favorite friendly search engine? Sorry, can't get to my bookmarks right this sec
[08:51] <fury> so, i am really skeptical about it being faster to fold on Ubuntu under VMware than to run a native windows folding client.
[08:51] <alecwh> okk, I'll check Google. :D
[08:52] <shiester_miester> anyway, ill come back tomorrow with my problems
[08:52] <fury> i am anxious to see how fast it is with Ubuntu running natively.
[08:52] <Nutubuntu> Good night all
[08:52] <fury> system is installed :D
[08:52] <fury> rebooting
[08:52] <alecwh> good night!
[08:53] <fury> hm. O_o why is the display sliced in half and shuffled around
[08:53] <fury> on the exit screen
[08:53] <fury> is that just a weird oddity from me using an analog display on a DVI output
[08:54] <holycow> analog display on a dvi output?
[08:54] <holycow> what are you using as a monitor? hdtv?
[08:54] <fury> yeah. i have a Sony 32" HDTV hooked up as my PC monitor. it only has an analog cable
[08:54] <holycow> ohjesus
[08:54] <holycow> :)
[08:54] <fury> but my video card is nothing but DVI
[08:54] <fury> geforce 7800 GT
[08:54] <holycow> you can actually read text on that? :)
[08:54] <fury> yeah. it's pretty good
[08:54] <dave_> there are analog to digital adaptors
[08:54] <fury> 1360x768
[08:54] <tritium> !enter
[08:54] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:54] <fury> yeah, i'm using an adapter
[08:55] <holycow> fury, wow, just congrats on making that work i guess :)
[08:55] <holycow> fury, i didn't know it would autodetect
[08:55] <fury> well i had to set up the live cd to run in safe graphics mode
[08:55] <fury> but now that i'm booting up to the finished install it looks fine
[08:55] <holycow> fury, how did you do that? just curious
[08:55] <fury> wondre if i can get it to do 1360x768 intsead of 1024x768
[08:55] <yadra>  is it still normal for an MSI-brand SATA chipset to not be recognized?
[08:55] <dave_> its just a dongle
[08:56] <holycow> fury, if your monitor can handle it sure, your xorg.conf file will tell xserver what to output
[08:56] <fury> holycow: the video card came with an adapter to hook up one analog (i.e. regular DB-15 VGA-style connector) monitor
[08:56] <fury> so i used that
[08:56] <fury> and that was it
[08:56] <fury> works just like a regular monitor
[08:56] <holycow> coolness :)
[08:56] <holycow> fury, so how is the picture quality?
[08:56] <fury> except it also has HDTV tuning, and about 6 other aux inputs
[08:57] <holycow> you say text is readable ... how readable?
[08:57] <holycow> is it a bit blury?
[08:57] <tritium> fury: please heed the note about !enter
[08:57] <fury> as readable as it gets without being DVI
[08:57] <fury> tritium: sorry
[08:57] <holycow> tritium, that should be addressed to me i'm th eone thats asking him questions
[08:57] <andruk> ferronica: searching around for it
[08:57] <tritium> thanks, guys
[08:58] <fury> no blurriness, fine color reproduction, great response time, i can't tell the difference from a CRT monitor in responsiveness
[08:58] <SunmanXII> hey - im having problems isntalling from a tarball( mplayer plugin). I unpacked it and ran ./config but it wont let me run make even though there is an m file. help?
[08:58] <dave_> fury,it should be sharper
[08:58] <holycow> SunmanXII, install build-essential first
[08:59] <holycow> then install anything else that app requires to configure and build
[08:59] <fury> yeah, it's sharper than a CRT for sure. but i was speaking more along the lines of how quickly it updates on like, scrolling and gaming
[08:59] <holycow> it will have some dependencies you will haveto look up
[08:59] <tritium> SunmanXII: what are you compiling?
[08:59] <fury> my $200 Samsung LCD monitor can't beat it in gaming performance
[08:59] <dave_> fury, yeah i dnt think it will affect that
[08:59] <fury> 'course the 32" HDTV was $1,000, but still, way better than i would have expected
[08:59] <holycow> fury, thats interesting i am checking out 24" lcds which are now very affordeable
[08:59] <SunmanXII> wait how do i install build-essential
[09:00] <holycow> SunmanXII, with synaptic
[09:00] <RoAkSoAx> SunmanXII, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:00] <tritium> SunmanXII: make sure it's not in the repositories before going through the trouble
[09:00] <andruk> ferronica: fdupes looks to be a good one
[09:00] <Jordan_U> SunmanXII, You know that mplayer is in the repositories?
[09:00] <fury> i wasn't exactly in the market, but i had a computer i turned in due to it being a piece of crap...they gave me store credit since i didn't want another computer... i thought to myself "i need to save this money for something else i might need in the future... save it until it expires or something and get something real nice later on"
[09:01] <SunmanXII> for some reason i couldnt install mplayer firefox plugin
[09:01] <SunmanXII> through the repository
[09:01] <fury> that line of thought lasted for about...1/4 of a second...before i started darting toward the HDTV section of best buy
[09:01] <Jordan_U> SunmanXII, Couldn't in what way?
[09:01] <Jordan_U> SunmanXII, Do you have universe enabled?
[09:01] <leagris> SunmanXII, you should check there is a package available for mplayer-plugin before compiling from sources and isntalling tarbals. Go to menu System/Administration/Synaptic package manager and search for availables packages here
[09:02] <tritium> !info mozilla-mplayer
[09:02] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[09:02] <Jordan_U> SunmanXII, Do you have multiverse enabled?
[09:03] <Ra|Ka> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=62e2otu here's ur joe, now blow
[09:03] <andruk> ferronica: you still there?
[09:03] <tyoc> Hey people some 1 of you have a GF 8800 or similar???
[09:03] <SunmanXII> wow i dont know how i missed that in synaptic - thanks guys!
[09:04] <fury> so then i see this $1,000 sony bravia 32"
[09:04] <fury> end of story :P. on that note, question. is it as simple as just editing xorg.conf and adding "1360x768" in front of "1024x768" in the modes section, to add that resolution to my display options?
[09:04] <tyoc> I will like to know you GPU temperature!!!!!!
[09:05] <BlindSIde> ?
[09:05] <ziroday> help, cant open .png images by doubleclicking or see them as as previews in natilius get the error : The filename "document-properties.png" indicates that this file is of type "png document". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "PNG image". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[09:05] <ziroday> Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "PNG image", then open the file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a specific application for the file. Any ideas?
[09:05] <tyoc> in the nvidia settings app
[09:05] <holycow> fury, no, you also need the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your display device for those resolutions to appear
[09:05] <ziroday> woops sorry :-[
[09:05] <tritium> fury: you may not even need to do that.  It depends on how the edid is read.
[09:05] <fury> tyoc: i have a 7800, would that count? :P
[09:05] <holycow> you may need to look that up on google if its not in the manuals
[09:05] <tyoc> I guess
[09:05] <siimo> what program to use to play .OGG files  video?
[09:05] <tyoc> How many is the GPU temperature???
[09:05] <BlindSIde> VLC player siimo
[09:05] <Jordan_U> siimo, Movie Player ( totem )
[09:05] <tyoc> fury: mine is at 65
[09:05] <fury> holycow: i think it got that from DPMS
[09:06] <siimo> BlindSIde: i tried VLC i see a black screen and the progress bar going -ve
[09:06] <BlindSIde> hmm
[09:06] <timephoenix> Hello everyone, I need some help recovering a ReiserFS partition which has disappeared
[09:06] <fury> tyoc: how do i check, i've literally just now installed ubuntu :P
[09:06] <Jordan_U> timephoenix, Try testdisk
[09:06] <tyoc> a you will need installed the nvidia drivers
[09:06] <fury> oh
[09:07] <tyoc> if is a clean install I suguest you go with the new 100.14 drivers, Im working with them right now :)
[09:07] <Jordan_U> fury, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager for Nvidia Drivers
[09:08] <[Hyarion] > hm, for some reason everytime I bootup GNOME I get a Bug Report error and everything works except the top/bottom taskbars, when I close it the error report pops up again, anyone had this happen?
[09:08] <noodles12> h
[09:08] <fury> Jordan_U: the checkbox is cleared, i checked it and hit "Enable driver", it greyed out for a few seconds and then returned to being unchecked
[09:08] <noodles12> !kvm
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <timephoenix> Jordan_U: Where can I download testdisk? I'm using the Live CD right now, but even with universe and multiverse enabled it doesn't seem to be on the servers.
[09:09] <Jordan_U> fury, Strange, you can just install the package manually, just *don't* use the ones from Nvidia.com :)
[09:09] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | fury
[09:09] <ubotu> fury: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:09] <illmortal> Does anyone know how to tweak/overclock NVIDIA video cards?
[09:09] <holycow> [Hyarion] , try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel
[09:10] <Tom47> [Hyarion] : if you have been removing programs perhaps you could try reinstalling the apropriate desktop deb
[09:10] <holycow> and then logout and log back in and see if that error is still around
[09:10] <aubade> illmortal: There are lines you can add to xorg.conf for, all I know.
[09:10] <Jordan_U> timephoenix, Have you updated the package list since enabling them?
[09:10] <illmortal> aubade, would you happen to have a tutorial?
[09:10] <vecina> new piece of rare knowledge: I just solved a problem ive been working on for months! Why is my dbus not working? why do i have to reinstal it? The answer: if you are using safe mode to avoid the splash screen, you also shut off dbus >.< let it be known!
[09:11] <aubade> illmortal: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_Drivers#Activating_Coolbits.3B_Overclocking_Controls_for_nVIDIA_Settings
[09:11] <vecina> *parade*
[09:11] <holycow> vecina, lol
[09:11] <Jordan_U> vecina, What do you mean by "safe mode" ?
[09:11] <holycow> nice :)
[09:11] <vecina> Jordan_U: Recovery even
[09:11] <vecina> Jordan_U: recovery mode does that :/
[09:11] <holycow> vecina, why not just replace the splash with a blank image or just remove the image?
[09:11] <holycow> just a thought anywhoo
[09:11] <Jordan_U> vecina, You should just remove the "splash" kernel parameter
[09:11] <vecina> you see, ive had to be in recovery mode every single time because the splash screen cuts my monitor signal off!
[09:11] <vecina> Jordan_U: I did
[09:11] <leagris> vecina, if you want to avoid splash screen you could as well remove the splash artworks and manager
[09:12] <vecina> may as well
[09:12] <holycow> it cuts off your monitor signal?
[09:12] <vecina> *dances around with joy* for MONTHS ive been dealing with this!
[09:12] <vecina> yes
[09:12] <holycow> oh thats a good one
[09:12] <holycow> what vid card?
[09:12] <vecina> as in, my monitor just blinks out
[09:12] <vecina> ATI of course
[09:12] <vecina> x700
[09:12] <holycow> lol!
[09:12] <Jordan_U> vecina, What happened when you removed the parameter?
[09:12] <holycow> omg that is soooooo funny :)
[09:12] <holycow> vecina, haha, you made my day, i love that
[09:12] <vecina> Jordan_U: I didnt have to reinstall dbus and it booted up like its supposed to
[09:12] <holycow> nice fix btw
[09:13] <vecina> holycow: oh my friend, ive made my day also >.<
[09:13] <vecina> jeez i wonder what else recovery mode has been ruining @.2
[09:13] <[Hyarion] > hmm, is there a hotkey for the terminal? Or a way to access it without going through Applications?
[09:13] <holycow> vecina, you mad mine for the humour of an ati card killing the monitor signal on splash screen, that is just classic
[09:13] <vecina> holycow: Only an ATI could do such a thing
[09:14] <Jordan_U> [Hyarion] , alt+F2 to get a run dialog
[09:14] <holycow> vecina, indeed!
[09:14] <[Hyarion] > Jordan_U, thanks much.
[09:14] <Jordan_U> [Hyarion] , np :)
[09:14] <DrkCodeman> hey Jordan_U cdemu isn't good for ubuntu is it lol
[09:14] <leagris> [Hyarion] , CTRL+ALT+F1-F4 bring text console
[09:14] <vecina> holycow: Never again shall i buy radeons....
[09:14] <holycow> vecina, i stopped buying ati on windows when i used to 3d
[09:14] <vecina> Okay guys, i have to patch this up. Whats the file for editing my grub entries?
[09:14] <holycow> they have always been known to have very very bad drivers
[09:15] <Jordan_U> [Hyarion] , Ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[09:15] <vecina> holycow: I got an ATI cause it was cheaper than the nvidia equivalent
[09:15] <DrkCodeman> hmm
[09:15] <dave_> i used to buy ati until i learned
[09:15] <Tom47> vecina sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:15] <vecina> heck if i wasnt using an ati i MIGHT be able to use beryl by now :P but no... not without itty bitty text
[09:15] <holycow> vecina, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:15] <holycow> what he said
[09:15] <vecina> Tom47: thanks
[09:15] <Jordan_U> leagris, Never tell someone to go to another tty without telling them how to get back to X :)
[09:15] <vecina> and thanks to you too holy
[09:16] <noodles12> For ubuntu, is KVM the most reliable,stable, and fastest way to run windows in a virtual environment? or should i stick with VMware?
[09:16] <holycow> ya no worries
[09:16] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, ello?
[09:16] <vecina> lol for some reason i have duplicate entries in my grub
[09:16] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Hi
[09:16] <DrkCodeman> Jordan_U, can ya comment on cdemu and ubuntu?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> vecina, Are you sure they aren't just previous kernels?
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> or have you not heard of cdemu?
[09:17] <Tom47> vecina may reflect kernel updates
[09:17] <Tom47> snap
[09:17] <Jordan_U> DrkCodeman, Never heard of it :)
[09:17] <vecina> Yeah, its a kernal update
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> ahh ok
[09:17] <vecina> your right
[09:17] <vecina> one's 15 one's 16
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> its a cdimage mounting tool :)
[09:17] <vecina> 16's better i guess hehe
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> apparently its hard to find support for other image types
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> other than iso :(
[09:17] <DrkCodeman> so you have to convert image files to iso
[09:18] <Rictoo> What is a command I can run to remove junk from the system? (I already did 'apt-get clean')
[09:18] <DrkCodeman> checks his linux version of ut2k4
[09:19] <Jordan_U> Rictoo, Possibly clean out /tmp ( though it's probably not that cluttered )
[09:19] <Frogzoo> Jordan_U: clearing out /tmp on a running machine isn't a good plan
[09:19] <NeoGeo64> Hey guys, remember when I was jokng about how to find out if my copy of Ubuntu was genuine?
[09:20] <NeoGeo64> this just in on slashdot  Ubuntu Linux Validates As Genuine Windows
[09:20] <Jordan_U> Frogzoo, Sorry, Rictoo see Frogzoo's comment
[09:20] <NeoGeo64> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/06/18/0037223.shtml
[09:20] <NeoGeo64> roflmfao
[09:20] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | NeoGeo64
[09:20] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <Tom47> NeoGeo64: spooky
[09:20] <noodles12> Frogzoo: this isnt' totally related, but I keep running out of space on my ubuntu installation. Where are all the things i can delete? ( similar to windows' ttemp and temp internet files?)
[09:20] <holycow> NeoGeo64, haha
[09:20] <NeoGeo64> im psychic :D
[09:21] <holycow> NeoGeo64, and so how DID you figure out if your copy of ubuntu is genuine?
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> i was joking where i could find and download Ubuntu Genuine Advantage
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> a bit earlier
[09:21] <holycow> haha thats a good one :)
[09:21] <NeoGeo64> then this shows up haha
[09:21] <holycow> "ubuntu genuine advantage'
[09:21] <BlackChaos> fuck, fury i wasnt able to do it
[09:21] <MacDrunk> hello
[09:21] <holycow> the hair on my back stands up when i think that
[09:21] <ideasman_42> is there an easy way to lauch a script from a menu?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> !hi | MacDrunk
[09:21] <ubotu> MacDrunk: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:22] <BlackChaos> but i was able to write down the error message here is wat it said
[09:22] <MacDrunk> need help on unistall kde- desktop
[09:22] <ideasman_42> I need to have the script run as root
[09:22] <BlackChaos>  Your home directory listed as: /home/BlackChaosxxx, but does not appear to exist. do you want to log in with the /root directory as your home directory? it is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session, and it had the options of yes or no
[09:22] <BlackChaos> so i said yes
[09:22] <ideasman_42> gnome-terminal -e "sudo ...."
[09:22] <Jordan_U> ideasman_42, Use alacarte and gksudo
[09:22] <MacDrunk> sup jordsn u
[09:22] <ideasman_42> is not working
[09:22] <Tom47> !ohmy | BlackChaos
[09:22] <ubotu> BlackChaos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:22] <Frogzoo> noodles12: you can go through synaptic removing installs you don't need, and you can run filelight to find where all your space has gone
[09:22] <BlackChaos> than another error message came up here it is:
[09:22] <BlackChaos> users $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. this prevents the default session and language from being saved. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission. users $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users
[09:22] <vecina> Well, that was the fastest, smoothest boot ive had since Edgy
[09:23] <BlackChaos> oh srry 4 the curse
[09:23] <noodles12> Frogzoo: so there aren't any places like in windows where linux keeps "trash" like "temp" and "temporary internet files" ?
[09:23] <vecina> graphics working right, dbus functional...
[09:23] <chowmeined> this is so cool!!!
[09:23] <chowmeined> http://www.ubuntustats.com/
[09:23] <vecina> i love you guys
[09:23] <MacDrunk> ive run synaptic no unistall KDE but like to do it on console terminal
[09:23] <vecina> <3
[09:23] <chowmeined> everybody go dig it
[09:23] <vecina> ron_ ?
[09:23] <MacDrunk> and i dont know the sudo apt-get command to uninstall kde-desktop
[09:24] <Myrtti> ron_: let that be the last time
[09:24] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --auto-remove
[09:24] <vecina> its probably sudo aptitude remove kde_desktop
[09:24] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:24] <ron_> k
[09:24] <vecina> i was very close
[09:24] <vecina> :)
[09:24] <Frogzoo> noodles12: /tmp - but a lot of what you see in there is being used - well behaved apps will clean tmp files on exit, also /tmp is emptied on reboot
[09:24] <fury> hm... what would make sudo apt-get install ia32-libs die with a seg fault?
[09:25] <ideasman_42> gtksudo isnt working
[09:25] <MacDrunk> thanks jordan u
[09:25] <Jordan_U> ideasman_42, gksudo
[09:25] <MacDrunk> kubunto is good
[09:25] <ideasman_42> hang on...
[09:25] <MacDrunk> but to far complicated to me
[09:25] <MacDrunk> windows like
[09:26] <MacDrunk> be back
[09:26] <MacDrunk> need to reboot
[09:26] <fury> hm.
[09:27] <fury> i just told the system to restart, and now it's locked up. nothing is happening.. except the terminal is blinking. mouse clicks don't do anything, but i can move the mouse itself
[09:27] <cotyrothery> hey how do i compile c++
[09:27] <cotyrothery> i have gcc
[09:27] <Gdog1> seems weird a new install of kubuntu wouldn't have firefox included
[09:27] <cotyrothery> its my first time using it
[09:28] <Jordan_U> fury, Can you get to a tty ( terminal ) by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[09:29] <phro1> exit
[09:29] <fury> too late :P i already reset it the hard way
[09:29] <cotyrothery> can someone tell me how to compile c++ in ubuntu
[09:29] <cotyrothery> and run it
[09:29] <cotyrothery> im trying to learn c++
[09:29] <Frogzoo> cotyrothery: why compile c++? it's in the repos - install build-essential
[09:29] <cormarrr> Hi, I'm trying to install WoW under WINE, I have the files copied over from my XP partition and WINE installed but it won't run it
[09:30] <Jordan_U> fury, Ok, next time that happens just know that there are varying degrees of ways to force a machine to shut down :)
[09:30] <Frogzoo> !appdb | cormarrr
[09:30] <ubotu> cormarrr: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:30] <cotyrothery> Frongzoo: what do you mean?
[09:30] <fury> yeah, i've done shutdown -r now on my web server many more times than i would have liked. :P
[09:30] <MacDrunk> hey jordan u
[09:31] <cotyrothery> Frogzoo: what do you mean?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, He probably thought you were trying to install an application by compiling, rather than learning c++ and coding one yourself
[09:31] <cotyrothery> oh
[09:31] <MacDrunk> i unistall kde desktop and everytime i turn up my laptop the kubuntu progress bar appers then it changes to ubuntu login screen any ideas why
[09:31] <Frogzoo> cotyrothery: see the appdb for WoW details
[09:31] <cotyrothery> no im trining to learning it so i can help with ubuntu
[09:31] <noodles12> anyone here familiar iwth KVM?
[09:32] <cotyrothery> Frogzoo: why would i care about wow
[09:32] <fury> i love what they did with my internet connection... i got a free boost of 300kb/s download speed...was getting like 600 at the most, now i get 880-900
[09:32] <ideasman_42> this is crazy.. is there no way to make a menu that launches a script as root?
[09:32] <fury> makes the updates pretty quick to download
[09:32] <cotyrothery> fury: how
[09:32] <ideasman_42> Im trying many combinations of gnome-terminal -x
[09:32] <ferronica> andruk: yes i am here
[09:33] <ideasman_42> with sudo and gtksu
[09:33] <cormarrr> ubotu, all I see are problems with textures and things, I can't even get it running. I folllowed the ubuntuforums.org howto
[09:33] <cotyrothery> ubotu is a bot
[09:33] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[09:33] <fury> cotyrothery: nothing i did, they just bumped up my speeds
[09:33] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, I guess it didn't remove the kde splash screen, the package is called "kubuntu-artwork-usplash" Just remove it
[09:33] <cotyrothery> fury: oh well thats nice
[09:34] <fury> yeah
[09:34] <cormarrr> nice, oh well, anyone else?
[09:34] <cotyrothery> fury: you do know its all in your router
[09:34] <cotyrothery> fury: the box they give you
[09:34] <MacDrunk> jordan u but on the login seesions it still apers
[09:34] <fury> cotyrothery: not really
[09:34] <fury> they can limit it at the plant
[09:34] <fury> cable office
[09:34] <cotyrothery> they have diffrent models
[09:34] <fury> whatever you wanna call it
[09:34] <fury> they gave me anew modem a while ago but it was still the same speed up until a few days ago
[09:35] <cotyrothery> frogzoo: so how do i compile my c++ code
[09:35] <ferronica> !seen andruk
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen andruk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Talaman72> andruk was last seen Wed Jun  6 00:35:19 2007 changing nick from drew in #ubuntu
[09:35] <Tom47> !wow > cormarrr
[09:35] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, I guess it didn't remove any of the dependencies of kubuntu-desktop, did you install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get?
[09:35] <cotyrothery> fury: i can download at 400 kb/s
[09:35] <MacDrunk> yea
[09:35] <MacDrunk> i didy
[09:35] <cotyrothery> fury: everyday it goes up some
[09:35] <MacDrunk> didt
[09:35] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, And you used --auto-remove when you removed it?
[09:35] <fury> hm. does the update manager know to get the 64-bit packages? cause I just saw it download what appeared to be the exact same packages as it did on the 32-bit version i installed on my dad's computer
[09:35] <BlackChaos> can sum 1 hlp me ive been w8ting 4 hlp 4 a while now
[09:36] <mbt> Does anyone know about any tricks to configuring NIS client software under Feisty?
[09:36] <MacDrunk> yes as you told me
[09:36] <BlackChaos>  Your home directory listed as: /home/BlackChaosxxx, but does not appear to exist. do you want to log in with the /root directory as your home directory? it is unlikely anything will work unless you use a failsafe session, and it had the options of yes or no
[09:36] <BlackChaos> so i said yes
[09:36] <ideasman_42> can a launcher be told to start in a terminal?
[09:36] <BlackChaos> than another error message came up here it is:
[09:36] <fury> cotyrothery: mine was at roughly 600kb/s for the longest time...had it fo rabout a year I think. then all of a sudden a few days ago (first noticed when i was downloading the ubuntu iso's) I was getting 850kb/s and up
[09:36] <BlackChaos> users $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. this prevents the default session and language from being saved. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission. users $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users
[09:36] <MacDrunk> but i did a search on synaptic to find the usplash file and its there whit other kubuntu files installed
[09:36] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Ok, well I guess you just have to remove all the packages that kubuntu-desktop installs, there is a list somewhere ...
[09:36] <cotyrothery> fury: how do you have such good speed
[09:37] <fury> my connection was purchased at 5mbit/384kbit. they wanted $30 more a month for the 8mbit/512kbit
[09:37] <MacDrunk> i better reinstall ubuntu from 0
[09:37] <Flannel> BlackChaos: what did you do before you got this error?
[09:37] <cotyrothery> fury: my bill is like 50 bucks
[09:37] <fury> so i said nah stick with the cheap stuff. but they must have bumped me up for free for all the problems i keep having with it
[09:37] <cotyrothery> fury: i use carter cable
[09:37] <fury> brighthouse networks / road runner cable internet
[09:37] <mbt> I can get 'ypcat passwd' to work, but authentication to a NIS server always fails (server is running FreeBSD if that helps)
[09:38] <cotyrothery> fury: never heard of them
[09:38] <mbt> s/a/the
[09:38] <linux_probe> RR is 7Mbps x 512Kbps now
[09:38] <linux_probe> thats standard package
[09:38] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, This is for edgy http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Uninstall_kubuntu-desktop
[09:38] <fury> cool
[09:38] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:38] <BlackChaos> flannel: i chg the home directory from jayxxx to BlackChaosxxx
[09:38] <cotyrothery> what is the ubuntu dev channel
[09:38] <linux_probe> their turbo package is now 15Mbps x 768Kbps
[09:38] <MacDrunk> do i use software sources program to remove
[09:39] <fury> hmmm
[09:39] <Flannel> BlackChaos: why'd you do that?
[09:39] <fury> i might be willing to buy that
[09:39] <linux_probe> for $9.95 more a month
[09:39] <MacDrunk> and then make a sudo apt-get update???
[09:39] <fury> that's decnt speed right there
[09:39] <Jordan_U> cotyrothery, #ubuntu-devel
[09:39] <cotyrothery> thanks
[09:39] <BlackChaos> flannel cause i wanted to chg it no real reason i guess
[09:39] <linux_probe> standard here is $44.95 month, turbo is $54.90  month
[09:40] <linux_probe> turbo isn't available in all areas yet
[09:40] <fury> like, fiber optic rivalling speed. only, i wish the upload speed would be better. i have to do a lot of uploading, and they seem convinced i'm running some kind of server, when i keep telling them it's just me uploading big files to my web sites all the time :x
[09:40] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Software Sources only adds / removes repositories, not applications
[09:40] <fury> i'm paying $36/mo for standard
[09:40] <linux_probe> they don't want you running a server
[09:40] <fury> i know they don't. and i'm not
[09:41] <jontec> fury: get a big stick, they'll listen
[09:41] <Flannel> BlackChaos: Well, you changed where your user was looking for it's home stuff, but you didn't change where thehome stuff actually was.  That's why you're having problems.  Changing it back will fix it, or moving your old homedir to where it's currently looking.  I'd suggest changing the homedir back over renaming it, since it's usual for homedirs to be /home/username, and moving it back would be that
[09:41] <linux_probe> you can if you keep the bandwidth useage low and obviously it's private
[09:41] <MacDrunk> jorda u
[09:41] <MacDrunk> it says no program to remove
[09:41] <cotyrothery> i have a server running
[09:41] <cotyrothery> off my hd
[09:41] <cotyrothery> just need to get a dns
[09:41] <BlackChaos> flannel: k can u give me the cmd to do all of this
[09:42] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, When you run that long apt-get remove command?
[09:42] <Flannel> BlackChaos: sure.  You're at a root terminal right now?
[09:42] <MacDrunk> not the long one
[09:42] <MacDrunk> the second one
[09:42] <fury> yay, folding!
[09:42] <NeoGeo64> Linux Genuine Advantage works by checking our licensing server periodically to make sure that the copy of Linux you are running is Genuine. This is determined by whether you have paid us the appropriate licensing fees. If you are out of compliance, and are past the grace period, logins to your machine will be disabled until the license fees are paid. How to log in to enter the license key when logins are disabled is left as an
[09:43] <Flannel> NeoGeo64: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter, thanks.
[09:43] <linux_probe> lmao @ linux genuine advatage
[09:43] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, The second one won't work unless you also installed the package with aptitude ( plus you already removed it with apt-get so the package is not there, just it's dependencies )
[09:43] <Flannel> BlackChaos: `usermod -d /home/jayxxx jayxxx`  Assuming your username is 'jayxxx' and that's also the folder (remember it's case sensitive)
[09:44] <MacDrunk> jordan u it says unmet dependecies
[09:44] <MacDrunk> whats that???
[09:44] <Tom47> wild oats?
[09:44] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, That's probably because the list of packages is from Edgy and not Feisty, let me find an up to date list...
[09:44] <MacDrunk> hmm man
[09:45] <MacDrunk> wont be better to do a full install again?
[09:45] <BlackChaos> Flannel my current ubuntu user name is blackchaosxxx
[09:45] <Flannel> BlackChaos: Er... Are you sure?
[09:45] <Flannel> BlackChaos: did you change that? or something?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, No need, this really isn't as hard as it seems, once I find the list you just have to run the command
[09:46] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:46] <MacDrunk> ill whait
[09:46] <mbt> Anyone know why Ubuntu won't authenticate users against a FreeBSD NIS server?  I can su - username from root just fine, but I cannot login directly.
[09:46] <BlackChaos> no u said /home/jayxxx jayxxx`  Assuming your username is 'jayxxx, its blackchaosxxx
[09:47] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, do u use ubuntu or kubuntu???
[09:47] <BlackChaos> so ill just put blckchaos instead
[09:47] <linux_probe> oh brother
[09:47] <Flannel> BlackChaos: if that's the case, why was it originally jayxxx?
[09:47] <BlackChaos> dam i confused my own self
[09:47] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2855205
[09:48] <linux_probe> some people are born confused =P
[09:48] <BlackChaos> k first i had jayxxx as a username and home directory name so when i chged it  i wanted to chg everything both username and homedir name
[09:49] <Flannel> BlackChaos: Alright.  Gotcha.  All you have left to do is move your homedir.  from /home/jayxxx to /home/blackchaosxxx or whatever.
[09:49] <BlackChaos> im new to linux so i know nothing of linux so can u give me the cmd
[09:50] <Tom47> BlackChaos did you create a new user blackchaosxxx or simply decide to become that
[09:51] <Flannel> BlackChaos: `mv /home/jayxxx /home/blackchaosxxx`
[09:51] <BlackChaos> know i decided to chg my current username to that one
[09:51] <BlackChaos> kk brb flannel hope this would wrk
[09:51] <Flannel> BlackChaos: you renamed your user, correct?  So all the files in /home/jayxxx are owned by blackchaosxxx currently?
[09:52] <agata> haihai.......................!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:53] <BlackChaos> yes i did rename my user from jayxxx to blackchaosxxx and i also chged my home from jayxx to BlackChaosxxx
[09:53] <Flannel> BlackChaos: riht, now you just need to move the folder to the new one.
[09:53] <BlackChaos> and i also chged my home from jayxxx
[09:53] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, better re install ubuntu i think
[09:53] <BlackChaos> flannel and i do this by typing the cmd that u gave ma?
[09:53] <Flannel> BlackChaos: yeah.  mv is MoVe
[09:54] <BlackChaos> kk let me try
[09:54] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, That seems like over kill to me but if you don't have anything that you are going to miss then sure.
[09:54] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, no need seems that works
[09:55] <seraph> hello all
[09:55] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, use this set of commands here on this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[09:55] <seraph> how do I get a list of all currently installed packages?
[09:55] <seraph> dpkg -l lists it out, but with extra info
[09:56] <seraph> I want something I can feed back into apt-get
[09:56] <crdlb> !clone
[09:56] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[09:56] <seraph> ah thanks
[09:56] <seraph> !automate
[09:56] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:56] <seraph> ooh
[09:56] <oxygen> exit
never work unless he edits /etc/group
[09:58] <jscinoz> Hey guys, one thing i've really missed from windows is a feature in a variety of screen capture programs that create a fake webcam driver that is a screen cap, is there a linux variant of this?
[09:59] <mariocesar_bo> Hello all, why ubuntu takes so long to check the "reading files needed to boot" step when booting?
yup i just can't remember it lol
[09:59] <seraph> mariocesar_bo: how long are we talking about/
[09:59] <jscinoz> >_<
[09:59] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, did you see it
[09:59] <mariocesar_bo> exactly 22 seconds
[09:59] <seraph> mariocesar_bo: wow that's really long
[09:59] <mariocesar_bo> it's to much
[09:59] <jscinoz> I've been using gtkrecordmydesktop for screencaps, and it works fine, but i need something that has a fake webcam driver thing.
[10:00] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Your last comment? yes
[10:00] <mariocesar_bo> it get slow, since update ubuntu this week
[10:00] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, the page i mention?
[10:00] <MacDrunk> did you see it
[10:00] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Yes
[10:01] <MacDrunk> ok i follow those steps and it seems that is working
[10:01] <BlackChaos> hey flannel
[10:01] <jontec> who the heck is flannel?
[10:01] <bjwebb_> i can't get into any apt program, because it says apt is already running
[10:01] <bjwebb_> and theres no window open
[10:01] <bjwebb_> so how do i end it?
[10:02] <boniu> boniu
[10:02] <seraph> bjwebb_: what about the icon in the tray?
[10:02] <jscinoz> bjwebb, sudo killall apt-get aptitude
[10:02] <Myrtti> bjwebb_: not even update-manager?
[10:02] <BlackChaos> flannel: when i tryed it it said permission denied
[10:02] <seraph> the package manager... is it currently busy
[10:02] <seraph> it might be running a routine update
[10:02] <bjwebb_> thers an update icon
[10:02] <bjwebb_> but that won't run either
[10:03] <Jordan_U> bjwebb_, Are you sure that you aren't running any other install programs? If so did an install program crash recently?
[10:03] <bjwebb_> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[10:03] <mariocesar_bo> so, what does the "Reading files needed to boot" to take so long to check ????
[10:03] <bjwebb_> Jordan_U: one might of crashed, how would i find it and end it?
[10:04] <Nowald> hi
[10:04] <BlackChaos> flannel: when i tryed it it said permission denied
[10:04] <mariocesar_bo> i am pretty frustated about this ... _
[10:05] <bjwebb_> how do i find and end a process?
[10:05] <neil_feisty> bjwebb_, ps -e then kill signal
[10:06] <crdlb> !adeptfix | bjwebb_
[10:06] <ubotu> bjwebb_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:06] <Jordan_U> bjwebb_, It probably quit without removing it's lock on dpkg, check for any install program, reboot if you don't know how to, and if it still doesn't work run: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[10:07] <K3rl0u4rn> hi people, I wonder why thunderbird 2.x is not present in synaptic... anybody with an hint on this is welcome
[10:07] <bjwebb_> i have restarted, im trying wat uboto suggested
[10:07] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, i run the command on a terminal windows and is removing all of the programs listed on the page i told you to look at
[10:07] <BlackChaos> hey flanel r u there i meed u to hlp me i tried the cmd and it said can not move because permisiion is denied
[10:07] <Jordan_U> bjwebb_, And: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:07] <bjwebb_> yay for the bot, it worked :D
[10:08] <DJ-_-> hey when i try to install my intel chipset drivers i get the errors which are pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26085/
[10:08] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Ok, good
[10:08] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, Why are you compiling them?
[10:09] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: they are automatically compiling when i run the shell script
[10:09] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, What shell script? Why aren't you using the drivers that come with Ubuntu?
[10:09] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, can i have two linux versions installed lets say ubuntu in onte partition and kubuntu in another?
[10:09] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: well some graphic problems....i cant run some stuff so i need to install the stuff....any ideas?
[10:09] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, Yes
[10:10] <MacDrunk> ok
[10:10] <crdlb> MacDrunk, but you can install kubuntu-desktop directly on ubuntu
[10:10] <crdlb> you wouldn't need two partitions for that
[10:10] <MacDrunk> hmm no
[10:10] <MacDrunk> if i want to try both i dont like the one conflicts whit the other
[10:10] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, I doubt that installing from wherever you are installing is going to help, in fact it may cause problems that you won't know how to solve if you don't know what you are doing
[10:10] <varka> K3rl0u4rn: http://ubuntu.iuculano.it/dists/feisty/thunderbird/
[10:11] <tanlaan> I have forgotten how to get my pci wifi card to work with linux, it needed something like bcmxxcutter or something like that. Here is what it is http://tinyurl.com/ynm4vv
[10:11] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: so i cant basically install them?
[10:11] <crdlb> DJ-_-, what problems and what stuff?
[10:11] <MacDrunk> better to have one part of the hdd for each, that way i can kill one whit out screwing whit the other
[10:11] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, By intel chipset do you mean intel GFX?
[10:11] <DJ-_-> crdlb: i am trying to install some vga drivers....log at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26085/
[10:11] <crdlb> DJ-_-, what problems made you try that?
[10:12] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: vga drivers...
[10:12] <crdlb> and what stuff isn't working?
[10:12] <Sepero> Anyone here use an Intel536ep modem?
[10:12] <DJ-_-> crdlb: basically some colour depths and screen resolution
[10:12] <crdlb> DJ-_-, the intel driver included with ubuntu is capable of all that
[10:12] <DJ-_-> crdlb: max listed is 1024*768 where as i can go upto 1280*1024
[10:12] <MacDrunk> jordan_u the command has just finished do i run a sudo apt-get update???
[10:12] <crdlb> it is the official intel driver
[10:12] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, have you tried installing 915resolution and do you know that 24 bit is the same as 32 in windows?
[10:13] <Jordan_U> MacDrunk, No need to, it's done
[10:14] <MacDrunk> ok
[10:14] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: what about the screen resolution then
[10:14] <MacDrunk> ill be back then
[10:14] <crdlb> DJ-_-, what intel chip is it?
[10:14] <MacDrunk> going to restart
[10:14] <crdlb> lspci|grep VGA
[10:14] <Jordan_U> DJ-_-, That will be fixed by installing the package 915resolution by running: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[10:14] <DJ-_-> crdlb: asrock p4i56gv motherboard with intel 865 chipset
[10:14] <MacDrunk> wow no need
[10:14] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: ok thx
[10:14] <MacDrunk> i no see no more the kde apps or progs
[10:14] <DJ-_-> p4i65*
[10:14] <BlackChaos> i typed mv /home/name /home/name to fix a prob that i have but it said permission denied can sum hlp to be able to do this
[10:15] <cBau> BlackChaos did you use sudo?
[10:15] <DJ-_-> crdlb and Jordan_U: thx for da help
[10:15] <gordonjcp> BlackChaos: for one thing you can't move a directory onto itself
[10:15] <MacDrunk> every day i love ubuntu more
[10:15] <MacDrunk> haha
[10:15] <cBau> I assumed he was moving from one to the other
[10:15] <BlackChaos> no
[10:15] <MacDrunk> how many work spaces can whe have?
[10:15] <cBau> use sudo
[10:15] <MacDrunk> only 2
[10:15] <BlackChaos> just the cmd that i typed above
[10:15] <gordonjcp> BlackChaos: I don't know what your problem is, but just mv'ing /home/<user> without knowing all the implications is likely to give you even more problems
[10:15] <cBau> cause both homes have seperate permissions
[10:16] <cBau> that is true gordon
if you do that then you need to also edit group and change the name
[10:16] <BlackChaos> huh guess ill have to explain the prob again i  didnt want to but
[10:16] <cBau> are you just trying to move files (music, movies) or settings... or what?
[10:17] <gordonjcp> BlackChaos: in general you'd need to be root to do that
[10:17] <DJ-_-> Jordan_U: another question...I cant chg my screen refresh rate..
[10:17] <K3rl0u4rn> varka: thank you but I didn't ask where I can download it or how... just wondered why thunderbird 2.x is not in the official repo. It must be a reason for this
[10:18] <gordonjcp> BlackChaos: and you probably want to be running as another user, ie. not trying to move your own homedir
 it would be easier to add a new user with the name then copy over the files
[10:18] <cBau> you could just sudo mv.... but it may break something, never tried it with one home folder to another
[10:18] <fury> ubuntu just randomly logged me out, i had to reenter my password and everything... how do i find out what happened? i think i briefly saw a black screen, but i couldn't tell what was on it before the login screen came back up
[10:18] <BlackChaos> i chged the home dir from jayxxx to blackchaosxxx and when i tried to log in it said that i cant log in because home/BlackChaosxxx does not exist or can not be found
[10:18] <pinky> hi...........
[10:19] <BlackChaos> it gave the option to go to root so i said yes and it took me to terminal
 what does ls /home say is it there
[10:19] <DJ-_-> another question...I cant chg my screen refresh rate..any ideas?
[10:19] <cBau> Fury: You might check the system log... System-->Administration--->System Log
[10:19] <fury> system log says "Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly", then "Exiting", then "starting (version <IP_ADDRESS>)..."
 edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:20] <DJ-_-> insmod: what do i edit in that file
 ah ! refresh rate
[10:20] <BlackChaos> wat insmod
[10:20] <DJ-_-> ya
 edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:20] <fury> oh. in syslog, just before signal 15 it says "/USR/SBIN/CRON[7193] : (root) CMD (  cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[10:20] <varka> K3rl0u4rn: the release didnt make it before the version freeze for feisty, thats the whole story
[10:20] <fury> did the cron restart my system?
 what does ls /home say -- is that user there
[10:21] <fury> cause that just fudged my folding and ended my game of solitaire early >.<
[10:21] <DJ-_-> insmod: phrase not found for refresh lol
[10:21] <cBau> Fury: I don't know... and lol, sorry for your loss.
[10:21] <cBau> Beyond my realm of knowingness :)
[10:21] <sit2> hi...
[10:22] <fury> hm
[10:22] <fury> gdm[5452] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting
[10:22] <K3rl0u4rn> varka: ok, thank you for the explanation :)
[10:22] <cBau> ah, there ya go
[10:22] <MacDrunk> jordan_u, i dll americas army any idea how to install
[10:22] <sit2> i need help
[10:23] <DJ-_-> insmod..
[10:23] <BlackChaos> should i try ths instead sudo_nano mv /home/jayxxx /home/BlackChaosxxx
[10:23] <fury> ok guess i shouldn't have folding in a terminal on X :P
[10:23] <sit2> anyone can help me? I want to import outlook.pst to ubuntu calendaring..evolution
[10:23] <fury> before i do the ctrl-alt-f1 thing to get a real terminal, what do I do to get back into the GUI?
 if you can't do basic command i am not going to help -- type man xorg
[10:24] <DJ-_-> insmod: what do you mean....you told to find refresh rate in xorg.conf...and it is not there....i didnt do anything wrong there
[10:25] <rangans> Hi Guys Good evening
[10:25] <BlackChaos> fury: try ctrl-alt-f1 or 7
[10:25] <fury> ok thanks
[10:25] <sit2> hi..helooo
[10:25] <sit2> i really need help on the matter
[10:25] <BlackChaos> im not sure so try
man xorg
[10:25] <sit2> can anyone help?
[10:25] <DJ-_-> insmod: going thru it now
[10:25] <rangans> I am running into a problem with vino server. I am able to view with a remote windows vnc viewer but my keyboard and mouse dont work anymore
[10:25] <fury> yep, ctrl-alt-f7 gets back to the gui
[10:25] <rangans> anyone encounter this problem berfore
[10:26] <BlackChaos> should i try ths instead sudo_nano mv /home/jayxxx /home/BlackChaosxxx
[10:26] <BlackChaos> woud this wrk
[10:26] <sit2> :(
[10:26] <CoolGuy21> Hi, can i use a ftp command to download something from web?
[10:26] <rangans> in Remote Desktop settings I do Have allow other users to control your desktop
[10:28] <rangans> Hi CoolGuy21 yes you can use ftp tp download something from an ftp site but those are rare nowadays
[10:28] <Frogzoo> CoolGuy21: if you're d/ling off the web, use wget
[10:28] <DJ-_-> how do i kill x and bring it back up..i need to set my screen depth through Xorg -depth 16
[10:28] <rangans> CollGuy21 : if you would like to download from an http site try wget it is a simple yet powerful downloader
[10:28] <Frogzoo> DJ-_-: ctrl + alt + backspace (twice)
[10:28] <DJ-_-> ok thx
[10:29] <sit2> oh no...any ideas?
[10:30] <rangans> HI guys once again can anyone help me with my vino vnc server problem
 set default then killall -9 (pid) or reboot
[10:32] <fury> hm
[10:32] <sit2> Hi anyones....I also need help to to how am i can import my .pst to evolution mail calendering
[10:32] <fury> wish i would have known that about 15 seconds ago. i just had to reset my machine cause X wasn't responding
[10:33] <fury> black screen, only the mouse pointer
 did the tty's work
[10:35] <fury> no. couldn't get back to it. i ctrl+alt+f1'd, then logged in, and started my folding process there, then hit ctrl+alt+f7, and then all i ccould do was move the mouse. ctrl+alt+f-anything didn't work
[10:35] <fury> in fact it did it again, but ctrl+alt+backspace got me back to the ubuntu login screen so i could log in
 so it worked -- all you had to do was kill the app
[10:36] <fury> yeah. but i really don't think i'd like to have to kill X and restart it every time i want to switch to a regular terminal and back
[10:36] <fury> is there a better way to go to one of the TTY's and then back to X?
 just kill the pid
[10:37] <fury> what pid?
[10:37] <insmod> the one that is the prob
 the one that locks the system
[10:38] <SEOmoz> !pastebin
[10:38] <fury> no, it doesn't lock anything, it's just that X doesn't get back to my session. X goes blank, so i have to restart X
[10:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:38] <fury> i don't want that to happen
[10:38] <Sepero> fury: You should be able to switch between tty's with only Ctrl+F-
[10:38] <marpstarL> anyone got a site that'll help me get started with developing linux applications?
 from tty ?
[10:39] <fury> insmod: no, ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:39] <fury> after switching back from a tty
 well that is why
[10:39] <Sepero> marpstarL: Do you know anything about programming at all?
[10:39] <Frogzoo> marpstarL: best to find a simple app you like & d/l 'apt-get source package'
[10:39] <Frogzoo> marpstarL: then take a look through the code
[10:39] <marpstarL> i'm familar with both c++ and java in windows
 just use a term
[10:40] <marpstarL> lots of vb.net
[10:40] <fury> well
 just use a term
[10:40] <marpstarL> just got into ubuntu and wanna start getting into application development
[10:40] <fury> X just had a fatal error and restarted, and i lost all the work that the folding process had done inside the terminal under X
[10:41] <modconfig> so, i'm really confused. in rhythmbox, i'm unable to have the mp3 set as the preferred format...
[10:41] <Sepero> marpstarL: Try running any java app that you made for win. See if you can convert it to Lin.
[10:41] <master5o1> hi
[10:41] <modconfig> and it's set as active
[10:41] <fury> so if there is some way i can get the folding process to not exit whenever X is restarted i'd be happy to do that
 something sounds borked -- i would -- apt-get -f install
[10:42] <modconfig> it simply does not show in the list.
[10:42] <master5o1> would anyone like to check out the Content Management System i wrote? irc.au.freenode.net, asimov.freenode.net
[10:42] <master5o1> fook... http://master5o1.awardspace.com/cms/index.php ... damn clipboard
[10:43] <fury> insmod: what to install?
[10:43] <magnethead> wow..forums aren't kdding when they say it gets ffull in here
 -f fixes install
[10:43] <modconfig> any ideas on why? or is this a bug/feature???
[10:44] <fury> ok. so just that? cause it just says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[10:44] <magnethead> would somebody be willing to help me when oportunity arrives? I have a pair of questions, one simple, one not so
 try it
[10:44] <fury> yeah, i did
[10:45] <fury> is that all it's supposed to say?
 no
 try autoremove
[10:45] <bluebanana> my 2 xchat tabs separated into their own window. how do i put them back together?
[10:45] <rangans> magnethead: go ahead I am bored
[10:46] <MacDrunk> nite all
[10:46] <MacDrunk> any ideas on how to install americas army for linux
[10:47] <fury> insmod: how? i'm completely new at this :x
[10:47] <magnethead> their on the forums but haven't really been dealt much with, but one is over menu.lst, and other is getting 3 operating systems on 3 hard drives to co-exist without blowing up
[10:47] <fury> well, at least, i haven't touched a linux distro for home use in 7 years
[10:47] <fury> so i'm as good as new
[10:47] <magnethead> if you would like, i can put the link here to save time
 ihave only ran unix for 12 yrs lol
[10:48] <Sepero> magnethead: please
[10:48] <fury> i don't have a command called autoremove
[10:48] <magnethead> I have XP Home (dell factory install) on a 145 GB hard drive, XP Pro on 320 GB, and trying..TRYING to get ubuntu on a 6 GB drive
[10:48] <magnethead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=477125
[10:48] <fury> i've been a dos/windows user for 16 years :x
[10:48] <modconfig> i'm also unable to delete any audio profiles (even ones i made).
 i am going to bed ---<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-:)
[10:49] <magnethead> and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476855
[10:49] <fury> and a perpetual newbie remote administrator of two CentOS dedicated servers
[10:49] <fury> for about 3 years
[10:50] <fury> i know just about enough to get around in SSH and compiling apache/php/mysql
[10:50] <fury> but running it on my home computer is a totally different ball game :o
[10:50] <macsim> anybody uses samba 3 with macOSX ?
[10:50] <magnethead> i've been working with this system for several days now..right now i'd be glad if i got ubuntu working by having to override the boot sequence everytime i wanted in ubuntu
[10:50] <lithiumX> can anyone tell me where my other appz (besides the ones in my Applications drop down menu) are in ununtu?
[10:50] <MacDrunk> hello
[10:51] <MacDrunk> anyone here has play americas army on linux???
[10:51] <MacDrunk> need info on how to install
[10:51] <ShinSR71`> apt-get install armyops ?
[10:51] <lithiumX> no like if i install a program and it doesnt show up in the drop down where is it?
[10:51] <echelon-> so
[10:51] <echelon-> how can i dual boot with ubuntu
[10:52] <echelon-> i ordered a copy of ubuntu CD a
[10:52] <echelon-> and it has been delivered
[10:52] <echelon-> :) :)
[10:52] <lithiumX> anyone??
[10:52] <ninja> hi
[10:52] <Myrtti> lithiumX: what program?
[10:52] <ninja> *************************************************************
[10:53] <gbmegb> ola
[10:53] <lithiumX> oh great now i forgot
[10:53] <lithiumX> lol
[10:53] <ninja_> can everyone tell me how to configure and play midi in ubuntu
[10:53] <lithiumX> oh!
[10:53] <n0_cod3> hola
[10:53] <lithiumX> MLDonkey
[10:53] <gbmegb> k tal
[10:53] <gordonjcp> ninja_: timidity
[10:53] <Myrtti> and freepats
[10:53] <n0_cod3> bien
[10:53] <n0_cod3> de donde eres?
[10:53] <lithiumX> ninja
[10:53] <gbmegb> de donde eres
[10:54] <lithiumX> do u have adept?
[10:54] <n0_cod3> de Vigo, y tu?
[10:54] <Myrtti> !es | n0_cod3
[10:54] <ubotu> n0_cod3: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:54] <ninja_> i have synaptic
[10:54] <gbmegb> marbella
[10:54] <erUSUL> !midi | ninja_
[10:54] <ubotu> ninja_: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:54] <n0_cod3> ok
[10:54] <n0_cod3> manejas?
[10:54] <n0_cod3> acabo de instalar esto
[10:54] <lithiumX> well regardless go to google and search for google directory and from there
[10:54] <Myrtti> !english | n0_cod3
[10:54] <ubotu> n0_cod3: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:54] <n0_cod3> y no tengo ni puta idea
[10:54] <lithiumX> you can find a lists of linux software directories
[10:54] <lithiumX> and under audio they usually have quite a few for that
[10:55] <lithiumX> hold on ill find u a link..
[10:55] <magnethead> is there a way in ubuntu to move where the video output is put on the monitor? in windows it's right, but in ubuntu it's about 5 mm off to the right and i cant see that part of the screen...and i dont feel like constantly going to the menu of my monitor to change it every time
[10:55] <lithiumX> ninja_
[10:55] <lithiumX> http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Software_Directories/
[10:56] <ziroday> anyone know why i cant see or easily open ,png files in nautilus?
[10:56] <ninja_> thanks lithiumX
[10:56] <jhaig> magnethead: I don't know if you can do it in software but normally you can adjust your monitor.
[10:56] <lithiumX> no prob
[10:57] <ziroday> anybody
[10:57] <magnethead> well nvidia on the windows side has an adjustment for it..maybe i'll adjust it for ubuntu then and use nvidia to corrdct it in windows
[10:57] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I get rid of this:run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system exited with return code 1
[10:57] <Madpilot> ziroday, png should do preview & open thru nautilus; the only thing you might run into is large files - nautilus won't thumbnail anything over a certain MB limit
[10:58] <MrKeuner> it comes in my mailbox everyday, wht is the problem there?
[10:58] <ziroday> Madpilot: made the limit max and tried with really small files no luck
[10:58] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: fix beagle...
[10:58] <VoX> heh
[10:58] <ziroday> Madpilot: used to work then one day stopped
[10:59] <MrKeuner> gordonjcp: how can I do that?
[10:59] <klien1> jogja
[10:59] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: have you tried googling the message that you're getting?
[10:59] <modconfig> ...okay, i finally figured it out....seems as if the regular gstreamer-ugly set was messing it up...
[10:59] <Madpilot> ziroday, odd - never had any problems with png previews here. The blunt-object way to fix that might be to delete your Nautilus prefs and let it reset to defaults - but that's ugly, might screw something else up, and might not fix things...
[10:59] <MrKeuner> gordonjcp: yes, it did not help
[11:00] <MrKeuner> gordonjcp: that bug there does not give a resolution
[11:00] <ziroday> Madpilot: already tried that too :)
[11:00] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: oh, doesn't it?
[11:00] <ziroday> Madpilot: still no luck and reinstall libpng too
[11:00] <Madpilot> ziroday, filed a bug yet?
[11:00] <ziroday> Madpilot: thinkin of it
[11:00] <emman101> how can I share folder in a network?
[11:00] <emman101> using terminal?
[11:00] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: it looks like it gives a fix to me...
[11:01] <ziroday> Madpilot: but its a pain cause i do alot of work with icons and most of them are .png and previewing them is really helpfull
[11:01] <ALL4N> I'm looking for a way to remove embedded newlines on a csv file here. The data has quotation marks when necessary. I tried finding them using /|".[^"] *\n.[^"] *"|    <-- the values are separated by '|'  not ','  but it does not work for intsances where the value encompasses more than one newline. Any suggestions?
[11:02] <magnetron> emman101: you could use Samba, or ftp
[11:02] <Madpilot> ziroday, yeah - Nautilus's preview (usually) rocks - it's one of the big things I miss when I'm forced to use Windows... file a bug - launchpad.net
[11:02] <emman101> is it a must?
[11:02] <MrKeuner> gordonjcp: sorry I missed that part.
[11:02] <magnethead> also, is there a way i could access ubuntu via the windows boot.ini file? I saw a topic on it that said to run grub install to a floppy, then convert the entire floppy over to a .lnx file..but i never got a grub prompt. For some reason the Dell BIOS is bent on only allowing boot to hard disk C
[11:02] <emman101> magnetron: is it a must?
[11:03] <emman101> magnetron: I wanna use the terminal
[11:03] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: I have to say, I haven't run up against this problem, but if the fix given solves your problem it might be worth commenting on the bug
[11:03] <MrKeuner> gordonjcp: I'll see it tomorrow when it runs by itself
[11:03] <magnethead> i have to use the F12 key to override boot to secondary slave to try to go directly to the ubuntu drive
[11:04] <magnetron> emman101: bot ftp are method for sharing a file, and both of them can be done with a terminal
[11:04] <gordonjcp> MrKeuner: yes
[11:04] <[ThC] Primski> gdi: cant install amarok, some server mirror problem, cant fetch dependecyies, then i downloaded manualy all debs, but package installer to stupid to recognize my dependencies are on the Desktop, still tried to download some, but fails couse of network error, how stupid is that ? :d
[11:04] <drogomir> hi all :)
[11:04] <emman101> magnetron: I wanna share a folder in a particular user only.. is it possible?
[11:05] <[ThC] Primski> without looking for new mirrors, how can i install 2 debs lying on my destkop ?
[11:05] <ziroday> [ThC] Primski: double click them
[11:05] <magnetron> emman101: yes
[11:05] <emman101> magnetron: how?
[11:05] <marfeath> What is a good dreamweaver alternative for linux?  (other than nvu)
[11:05] <[ThC] Primski> i did, wnats to download 2 dependencies, but fails couse of error in repo path
[11:05] <magnetron> emman101: use Samba or FTP
[11:06] <[ThC] Primski> got all debs on my desktop, but still tries to dl dependencies
[11:06] <ziroday> dreamweaver on crossover office
[11:06] <emman101> magnetron: in terminal is it possible?
[11:06] <magnetron> emman101: yes, both are possible with terminal
[11:06] <krips> spanish
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> Hello
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> I need some help installing something.
[11:06] <krips> what
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> It says "Make sure you have the needed build environment and tools to compile the vmware modules for the kernel."
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> I don't know what that means?
[11:06] <emman101> magnetron:  its not working
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[11:06] <krips> what u need to install
[11:06] <[ThC] Primski> is there a --force trigger on dpkg -i, to ignore dependencies ?
[11:06] <GeekMaster1> VMware
[11:06] <emman101> I can't find it in another computer
[11:07] <magnetron> !doesn't work | emman101
[11:07] <ubotu> emman101: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:07] <GeekMaster1> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[11:07] <GeekMaster1> Says ""Make sure you have the needed build environment and tools to compile the vmware modules for the kernel.""
[11:07] <GeekMaster1> Ho wdo I make sure?
[11:07] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[11:07] <drogomir> i keep getting really strange error... after startx (or trying to log via kdm) i get something like "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified " - and the strange thing is I can run X from root....
[11:08] <th1> good morning :)
[11:08] <drogomir> mybe someone here could help me ;]
[11:08] <th1> who knows, drogomir ;)
[11:08] <emman101> magnetron: I've tried this command: chmod 777 helloworld
[11:08] <jonathan_> hello
[11:08] <emman101> its not working
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> I get the eroror "danny@danny-desktop:~$ aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essentialReading package lists... Done
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Building dependency tree
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Reading state information... Done
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Reading extended state information
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Initializing package states... Done
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Building tag database... Done
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:09] <jonathan_> I want to install kubuntu
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:~$ "
[11:09] <emman101> I still can't find it in another computer
[11:09] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[11:09] <jonathan_> but how to install ubuntu
[11:09] <th1> GeekMaster1, please dont flood the channel but use pastebin
[11:09] <jonathan_> by switch ubuntu
[11:09] <lithiumX>  does anyone know where tour applications go when their installed?
[11:09] <drogomir> yeah... who knows - I googled for a while and solution to this error is always xhost + but I could do that *after* starting X :]
[11:09] <th1> drogomir, what was your problem again?
[11:10] <drogomir> i keep getting really strange error... after startx (or trying to log via kdm) i get something like "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified " - and the strange thing is I can run X from root....
[11:10] <jonathan_> by choose our session
[11:10] <GeekMaster1> Is ANYONE available to help me with my issue?
[11:10] <[ThC] Primski> ahh, dpkg -i --force-depends solved the problem ;), thank you, thank you very much, i'll be here all week ;)
[11:10] <magnetron> !install > jonathan_     (read private message from ubotu)
[11:10] <magnethead> It's 4 AM my time (central US). If somebody has some spare time, please check and see if you may have any insight to either of my issues, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476855 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=477125 . I have been dealing with this for 2 days and change, if somebody could help me out yb posting their input on those topics it would be appreciated...i need to get some sleep. I was up till 5 AM watching lemans yatesray..
[11:11] <th1> drogomir, is the X server up and running? ie. do you see the X screen?
[11:11] <magnetron> !samba > emman101
[11:11] <jonathan_> I want to install KDE or Kubuntu inside my ubuntu, I want using session
[11:11] <drogomir> ahh... and this problem begun after plugging in monitor .... and in xorg.conf there are strange devices like /dev/wacom ;]
[11:11] <emman101> magnetron: I don't want to use samba if possible
[11:11] <drogomir> now I'm writing from antother machine :)
[11:11] <magnetron> emman101: then use ftp
[11:11] <Sepero> GeekMaster1: Use sudo
[11:12] <emman101> magnetron:  how?
[11:12] <drogomir> th1: but after startx
[11:12] <th1> drogomir, what is output of "ps axw|grep /usr/bin/X"
[11:12] <Sepero> GeekMaster1: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:12] <th1> (after startx)
[11:12] <drogomir> th1: there is that awful screen with X as a cursor
[11:12] <magnetron> !proftpd
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <th1> drogomir, my guess it has a different display than :0 due to some issues with your xorg.conf