[00:06] <donofrio> anyone here gotten pulseaudio working on wsl?  I tried and I get " alsa audio output error: cannot open ALSA device "default": No such file or directory"
[00:29] <pragmaticenigma> donofrio, It is not possible for us to support WSL here. Also, Microsoft lists WSL as beta, it's going to have bugs
[00:33] <ndujoe1> I use ubuntu 16.04 does it contain all of the compoents which which to compile programs from source or are there additional modules that need installation.
[00:34] <donofrio> pragmaticenigma, and I'm 18.04 so I shuffle over to +1 I'm guessin
[00:46] <Ian__> Hello
[00:56] <Ian__> Hello
[01:00] <Saabstory88> Asked in #gnome as well. 17.10 user. Is there good method to change desktop switching to be horizontally oriented rather than vertically? I use Win10/Linux/Mac daily, and would suffer less of a mental context penalty by being able to match their horizontal paradigm
[01:15] <memo1> hi friend, im my unitfile, im runing a ruby script run a bash sccript, at the end i use the &sign to run the command in the background, but the service fail
[01:24] <Ian__> hdgx
[01:24] <Ian__> Hello
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> memo1, we cannot help with programming here. This is a support channel for Ubuntu and it's included software. You will need to find a Ruby or Bash development channel to have your question answered
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, this article appears to have what you are looking for https://askubuntu.com/a/966930
[01:34] <scootergrisen> Where can i translate the description for steam found in software
[01:36] <Saabstory88> pragmaticenigma: Not speaking about dock position, but about the direction of the desktop switching animation
[01:44] <luxio> I'm trying to run Minecraft.jar on Ubuntu and get this error: Downloading: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/launcher.pack.lzma Exception: javax.net.ssl.SSLException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[01:44] <luxio> tried all solutions I could find online, none worked
[01:51] <luxio> nevermind found the solution in some reddit post
[01:51] <luxio> posted 3 days ago so i guess i wouldn't have seen it when searching earlier
[01:53] <elkclone> close
[01:53] <luxio> quitquitquitexit:wq:q!exit^C^C^Zexitquit
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, I have no idea what you mean then
[01:55] <bodie__> hi, having trouble with nvidia drivers in 18.04.
[01:55] <pragmaticenigma> luxio, try /quit
[01:55] <Saabstory88> So when you switch between desktops in gnome, the desktop switcher moves vertically, and has the preview oriented vertically. I was hoping to find a way to have the animation and desktop preview oriented horizontally like on MacOS and Win10
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, You talking about the virtual desktops?
[01:56] <bodie__> I can log in and run gnome just fine without them, but when I install the native drivers using `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`, it freezes after I log into the Gnome shell
[01:56] <bodie__> before loading the desktop
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | bodie__
[01:56] <bodie__> I have nouveau blacklisted
[01:56] <Saabstory88> pragmaticenigma: yes
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, I am not aware of any customizations for that
[02:03] <garrett_> n #ebooks
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, from what I can tell, the transition effects are possibly handled by compiz
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> Saabstory88, it is possible that the compiz config tool might help you. But I'm not 100% certain that is the right solution or answer
[02:11] <protocol_hive> this is an off topic question: but for anyone here in california, do you happen to know why it is against rules and regulations for them to fish wire internally inside walls? i tried to get them to set up my internet for 10 days and all i got was the run around til i found out about them...
[02:11] <protocol_hive> this***
[02:15] <MarchHare> Okay, anyone got time to help me get to the bottom of a minor annoying problem? I've got on-mobo sound with a mic, line in, and line out. No phono plug. It works, but with a caveat. It seems like when I have it hooked to the sound system, if I let the sound sit idle for more than a trivial amount of time (maybe <30s, not sure on this), when I start playing audio again, it takes about 5 seconds for the audio to start playing on the
[02:15] <MarchHare> sound system. This doesn't appear to happen if I hook a headphone right up to line out, and the sound system seems to play immediately when I hook up other devices directly to it. So all signs seem to be pointing at some kind of power-save on the sound card. But the things I've found don't seem to be helping eliminate that delay.
[02:16] <l00001000> So As regular With using Supplemental Punctuation On AnDroid Dev it is Noticed My Celluar Phone has better uncode Support Than #Ubuntu AnyBody Have Anything
[02:19] <iehusha> Viz. http://graphemica.com/categories/other-punctuation
[02:20] <k_sze> Does anybody know what will happen to Ubuntu for WSL once 18.04 is out?
[02:20] <k_sze> Will the existing Ubuntu "app" be upgradable in-place to 18.04?
[02:21] <MarchHare> Couldn't say.
[02:23] <iehusha> #whyWouldYOUDoThAT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux
[02:26] <Budgii> anyone know how to share a video with a URL like imgur pics?
[02:28] <MarchHare> Budgii: Try ctrl-W
[02:28] <Budgii> somehow I wondered
[02:29] <tuxflo> Hey guys! Just a short question: I'm looking for a tool (CLI or GUI doesn't matter) to bulk rename folders after their containing files. For example I want Folder_1/foo.txt to become Foo_1/foo.txt. I already tried pyrenamer and krename and some bash stuff but no success so far...
[02:30] <iehusha> SearchMonkey
[02:46] <britaliope> hey guys, i need help resizing some partitions on my ubuntu server :|
[02:48] <britaliope> i need to increase the /boot fs (`/dev/sda1` ), and shrink the / mountpoint (`/dev/sda2`). The point is i am not finding any way to shrink the first blocks of a volume :/
[02:51] <xamithan> Just boot up a livedisc and gparted resize it
[02:53] <britaliope> but without using gparted :)
[02:54] <malware_> hi
[02:55] <xamithan> In that case boot to livedisc and use resize2fs then fdisk|gdisk|parted
[02:55] <xamithan> Same difference just more steps
[02:55] <superkuh> So, the http://archive.canonical.com/ load balancing mirror at <IP_ADDRESS> is still just a blank apache fresh install. Does anyone know how to contact the Ubuntu people who handle this?
[02:56] <superkuh> Been like this for a day and a half now.
[03:04] <superkuh> Hopefully they notice this and it's the right people to bug. https://github.com/canonical-websites/www.ubuntu.com/issues/2916
[03:05] <luxio> when I run Minecraft on Ubuntu I'm getting a ton of dropped frames when the window is big
[03:05] <luxio> runs fine on Windows
[03:05] <luxio> how do I fix?
[03:06] <britaliope> everything i read about rezise2fs makes me strongly belive that when it is used to shrink partitions, the free space is at the end of the partition. However i would like to put the empty space at the beginning of the partition. Is that possible ?
[03:08] <luxio> might be wayland. 1 sec switching to xorg
[03:12] <luxio> yeah its bad on xorg too
[03:49] <Cypher100> I'm using Banshee that came with Ubuntu, how do I adjust the volume?
[03:49] <Cypher100> I can't seem to find it anywhere
[03:50] <Cypher100> It must be simple because I can't find any results on google, there is no volume adjustment setting anywhere for it
[03:55] <electromagnetism> humm - and + keys
[03:57] <Cypher100> I'm testing ubuntu 18.04, and just noticed that the volume adjustment is completely gone on banshee. +, and - doesn't appear to adjust the volume ether
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Cypher100: 18.04 support in the #ubuntu+1 channel :)
[04:18] <Laibsch> I have my entire Ubuntu installation in a btrfs subvolume (including /boot).  I took a snapshot of it and would like to boot into it, but grub-update does not include it in the generated grub.cfg.  What am I missing?
[04:19] <Laibsch> I have the default layout of @ and @home btrfs subvolumes
[05:36] <ujued> hava no fun
[06:01] <cpaelzer> seth: "off the linux kernel" I assume you mean using isolcpus (if not you should)
[06:01] <cpaelzer> seth: also use pinning for the vcpu
[06:01] <seth> Pinning doesn't help much.
[06:02] <cpaelzer> I mean in general all of this kills plenty of the flexibility virt gives you, but if all you need is better latency why not
[06:02] <seth> My audio is fine with high dpc latency since I use MSI interrupts.
[06:02] <cpaelzer> further consider general things like backing your guest with huge pages for less faults and better tlb handling
[06:02] <seth> And my first 2 CPUs are using kernel params and bound to the VM so all interrupts are handled by the CPUs which aren't being used by the kernel.
[06:03] <seth> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_iommu=on isolcpus=2-3 nohz_full=2-3 rcu_nocbs=2-3 pcie_acs_override=downstream"
[06:03] <seth> I have 4 Cores, first 2 are used by Linux Host, but they are not bound to the VM whatsoever, because that may have kernel spikes.
[06:04] <cpaelzer> also maybe mlock the memory
[06:04] <cpaelzer> of the guest
[06:04] <cpaelzer> DPC =~ RT isn't it
[06:05] <cpaelzer> wasn't there a lwn article once ... ?
[06:05] <cpaelzer> seth: yeah I think https://lwn.net/Articles/656807/ should be a good read
[06:06] <seth> Doesn't Ubuntu come with a RT kernel?
[06:06] <seth> Do I need to compile my own kernel?
[06:06] <seth> I was using Antergos Arch then switched to Ubuntu 18.04 Beta, it is actually more stable than Antergos.
[06:06] <seth> Which I am surprised.
[06:07] <cpaelzer> it is an LTS, despite the usual tething troubles at this time it should be more stable :-)
[06:07] <rama_vm> arch linux not booting, ldlnux.c32 not working
[06:08] <cpaelzer> seth: RT kernel is no more due to upstream, but there is a -lowlatency kernel you could consider
[06:09] <seth> What about timers like HPET and HyperV clock?
[06:09] <seth> I disabled these.
[06:09] <seth> My DPS latency spikes to like 2k and have some services in Windows like internet go up to like 20k.
[06:13] <cpaelzer> I'm not good on timers seth (used mainframe for too long and just used to good timers :-) )
[06:14] <cpaelzer> but in general lock, nonshared, vcpupin, emulatorpin, isolcpus - if all these are in place then ??
[06:14] <cpaelzer> maybe depedngin on your devices (if any are involved) passing them through (for usb or pcix)
[06:16] <Drag0nhunter> hello all
[06:26] <BuilderMT> hello i need help with systemd service ... it does not work but no idea why
[06:33] <BuilderMT> https://pastebin.com/zwP60fcD can someone tell me what is wrong with this systemd ?!
[06:41] <generalfluffles> uhh
[06:42] <generalfluffles> irc indeed
[06:42] <generalfluffles> lack helpfulness though
[06:43] <abhra> is it possible to run Temporary-Ordered Routing Algorithm (TORA) – An Operations Research Software in ubuntu 16.04? if not, what could be the alternative?
[06:45] <generalfluffles> abhra, have you tried running it normally?
[06:46] <generalfluffles> abhra, do you face an error?
[06:46] <generalfluffles> if there it isn't available it should mention that in ths site
[06:46] <generalfluffles> the*
[06:46] <abhra> it is available in .exe format. tried to run it by changing the property to executable. not working. generalfluffles
[06:48] <generalfluffles> what does winehq say about TORA
[06:48] <generalfluffles> check the winehq application database to run it with wine
[06:49] <generalfluffles> if its garbage don't even try to run it
[06:51] <generalfluffles> abhra, try running it with PlayOnLinux or Crossover
[06:54] <abhra> generalfluffles, will try playonlinux.
[06:55] <abhra> i have tried to do some functions (linear programming, queuing analysis) in R. presently, i am more interested in finding some alternative. thank you for the guidance. will try.
[06:55] <generalfluffles> abhra, if it doesn't work then don't insist .exe files don't always work on ubuntu, except if you buy a 200$+ emulator...
[06:56] <Ben64> qemu / vbox are free
[06:56] <generalfluffles> haven't heard of thsoe
[06:56] <generalfluffles> do they worth wasting time?
[06:57] <Ben64> huh?
[06:57] <generalfluffles> Ben64, do they work?
[06:59] <Ben64> yes
[06:59] <abhra> generalfluffles, yes, i know. i do not need to run it specifically. searching for some alternative software for operations research for ubuntu.
[06:59] <abhra> Ben64, thanks for the suggestion
[07:00] <generalfluffles> abhra, installing qemu demands root interference
[07:16] <LP> is ubuntu 17.10 an LTS?
[07:18] <Guest62456> hiii
[07:19] <Guest62456> i want to create partition using parted with proper alignment ??? how can we do it ???
[07:19] <ducasse> Guest62456: proper alignment is done automatically
[07:19] <generalfluffles> Guest62456, repeat your question cause i just /cleared the chat
[07:20] <generalfluffles> or /msg me with it
[07:21] <Guest62456> sorry...
[07:22] <generalfluffles> okay then....
[07:23] <generalfluffles> anyway its fine im busy either way
[07:23] <Guest62456> @ducasse  suppose i have disk sdb i want to create partition using bash script, and one partition is exist so what will me by command
[07:25] <ducasse> Guest62456: you should be able to find that in the parted man page
[07:26] <generalfluffles> yh
[07:27] <generalfluffles> i am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 17.04 with command line but there seems to be an error
[07:27] <Guest62456> yes i can do but i want to do it by bash script
[07:27] <Guest62456> i want to use -s option with the same
[07:27] <joshua__> sup
[07:28] <Guest62456> script should be able to add delete partition
[07:29] <generalfluffles> i am trying to use do-release-upgrade but it leads to an error
[07:29] <generalfluffles> clear
[07:31] <ducasse> generalfluffles: you need to upgrade via 16.10
[07:32] <generalfluffles> okay how to update to 16.10
[07:32] <generalfluffles> never mind i know how
[07:33] <ducasse> you should be able to do that with do-release-upgrade and the !eolupgrade instructions
[07:33] <ducasse> !eolupgrade
[07:41] <generalfluffles> i believe root owns my files and doesnt allow me to update
[07:43] <geirha> why not just wait a few more weeks and upgrade to 18.04 instead?
[07:46] <rigo43yebd> hi. i'd like to have a small adjustment on this line: for f in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -ab 320k -map_metadata 0 "${f%.flac}.mp3"; done
[07:47] <rigo43yebd> so it does the job recursively in all the subdirs of the dir i'm starting the command from. thanks
[07:48] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[07:48] <dbugger> I am trying to get Ubuntu running in a MacBook and I am running in a couple hiccups:
[07:49] <dbugger> problem #1: It does not detect the Magic Mose
[07:49] <Haris> hello all
[07:49] <Haris> how to have 3.6.x on Ubuntu Xenial (16.x)
[07:49] <Haris> mongodb 3.6.x on xenial
[07:49] <dbugger> I look at the Bluetooth Settings but I do not see it anywhere, just a bunch on "Unknown"s
[07:51] <generalfluffles> ive interrupted my computer's command line update to 17.04 and now every time i try to update it it shows me an error that just keeps going
[07:55] <usrshv> Hi! In 18.xx Ubuntu, do the "intel_pstate" driver is recommended? Or i can feel free to choose old drivers ("ondemand"), because they will be supported in next releases?
[07:55] <ducasse> !18.04 | usrshv
[07:57] <usrshv> Ohh.. )))
[07:58] <generalfluffles> okay
[07:59] <generalfluffles> i am done with this demon that people call a computer and this devil that people call an OS
[07:59] <clakes> lol
[07:59] <generalfluffles> whats the point we cant even install an .exe file properly the only thing we can do is use terminal to watch premium porn free
[08:00] <rigo43yebd> awesome. thanks (jeez why the f am i bothering asking...)
[08:01] <generalfluffles> "yes hello im facing a problem with the usage of ubuntu"
[08:01] <generalfluffles> "who doesnt"
[08:01] <generalfluffles> the staff said
[08:01] <generalfluffles> "how can i fix this error?"
[08:01] <generalfluffles> "remove linux completely and install windows"
[08:04] <Skaface82> is it really called bionic beaver? lol
[08:04] <Skaface82> i assume its the animal beaver they are referring to
[08:05] <Skaface82> not the other hairy beaver
[08:07] <usrshv> Skaface82 [beaver] (~none@gateway/tor-sasl/beaver): beaver is hairy? )
[08:08] <Skaface82> the one that comes to my mind is
[08:08] <ikonia>  /win 7
[08:08] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[08:12] <usrshv> ikonia heretic!
[08:26] <nikolam> I have a problem with Ubuntu Ntfs support, every file saved on mounted NTFS partition is marked _executable_! (Firefox complains after, say, PDF download and when trying to opne it!)
[08:27] <Skaface82> you can probably tell it how to set permissions in the fstab file
[08:27] <nikolam> No, I think it is an Ntfs-3g bug, Skaface82
[08:28] <Skaface82> try setting dmask and fmask in fstab
[08:28] <nikolam> It says in /etc/fstab: UUID=<PartitionNumber>	/media/Data	ntfs-3g	defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[08:30] <nikolam> seems like defaults for ntfs-3g are to save all files as 'always executable'
[08:31] <Skaface82> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G
[08:32] <Skaface82> have a look where it says "Linux compatibel permissions"
[08:32] <Haris> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[08:32] <Haris>   mongodb-org-shell mongodb-org-server mongodb-org-mongos mongodb-org-tools mongodb-org
[08:32] <Haris> E: There were unauthenticated packages and -y was used without --allow-unauthenticated
[08:32] <Haris> trying to install mongodb 3.6.x on xenial
[08:32] <BadPractice> hi i am trying to install a xubuntu. First i see the boodt screen but then it goes back to console with the message "A start job is running for ubuntu live cd installer" and does not return
[08:32] <Haris> from mongodb's repo for ubuntu
[08:34] <BadPractice> "A start job is running for ubuntu live cd installer" runs for 10 min now
[08:35] <nikolam> Skaface82, huh, so it mounts whole partition with those permissions then...
[08:36] <Skaface82> yeah cause the permissions are set for a windows OS, I think the linux driver has to set its own permissions instead, so therefore you have to specify what those permissions are
[08:37] <Skaface82> i think youll find an option to set a default permission for all new files that are created too
[08:38] <nikolam> Uhh, yet Linux also supports ACL. Actually, thank you for the help, since up till now, I were using Ntfs just sometimes.
[08:38] <ucc> Hi there I have problems compile Aegisub under Ubuntu 18.04, it was available in Software center under 16.04, but now missing. When compile from source code all versions I tried crashed ... everytime some (some parcer).o  or (some parcer).so ...... any idea what to do?
[08:39] <Skaface82> thats ok, I went through all of that cause my hard drive with big media files was NTFS. I found it was the most compatible way to use the drive on both operating systems
[08:39] <Skaface82> and support huge iles
[08:39] <Skaface82> files
[08:41] <seth> I went with lowlatency kernel 4.16.1, but my DPC is still really high.
[08:42] <ducasse> ucc: 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <usrshv> ucc apt search aegisub?
[08:47] <usrshv> ucc i used that command and found three packages in repos, why do you not install them?
[08:48] <seth> Is the realtime kernel an option for Ubuntu?
[08:48] <seth> I am using lowlatency right now.
[08:48] <seth> I read that it is in between RT and Generic, lowlatency.
[08:49] <olbrook> /
[08:49] <olbrook> \
[08:50] <seth> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware-winpc/i-am-getting-seriously-high-dpc-latency-due-to/99419db0-2f2f-4a63-aa1d-25a864b59bab
[08:50] <seth> this fixed it for me
[08:50] <seth> Yay!
[08:50] <seth> Well never mind.
[08:51] <Skaface82> nikolam: how u going there? work it out?
[08:53] <nikolam> Skaface82, Now it sees files as non-executable
[08:53] <nikolam> Would be interesting if I want to store some Linux install on Ntfs.
[08:54] <Skaface82> yeah I think it will set weird permissions, touch a new file on there and see
[08:55] <ducasse> nikolam: linux installs on ntfs are not supported, so that wouldn't work
[08:56] <vlt> seth: Whta does DPC mean?
[08:56] <vlt> *What
[08:56] <Skaface82> i think he is just mounting it
[08:56] <seth> Windows interrupts tasks and there's a thing called DPC which is how long a process has CPU time.
[08:58] <nikolam> ducasse, hey it's not ntfs install, it is mounted ntfs partition
[09:00] <ducasse> nikolam: i get that, just commenting on your "would be interesting..."
[09:01] <nikolam> ducasse, ah, I was thinking , like, some binary linux installation, with executable shell script. If it does not see it as executable
[09:01] <nikolam> e.g. starting application installation from it
[09:01] <Skaface82> i guess you could install on a loopfs that is on the ntfs partition
[09:02] <Skaface82> if you really wanted to lol
[09:02] <nikolam> Well, that's not wise I think and I don't know if it is even supported.  I'm trying to run a binary I'm working on,a nd it's really hard to get it running on 17.10 because it can't find the ssl library :(
[10:49] <adrian_1908> emilsp: so you're writing a program? If so, this would probably be a better question for a programming related channel.
[10:50] <emilsp> I'm working on a program that works well on both debian and Fedora, I think this is more of a library-installing question than a programming question :(
[10:50] <adrian_1908> emilsp: as a quick hack, you can try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/path/to/libssl" in your active bash session and invoking your binary afterwards.
[10:50] <emilsp> ls
[10:50] <emilsp> oh god, I apologize for my mistargeted commands.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> emilsp, not to worry.  you are neither the first nor the last ...
[10:52] <adrian_1908> emilsp: Is the libssl version from elsewhere than the package manager? I think 17.10 has v1.0 only, right?
[10:52] <emilsp> That seems to be the case, yes. Is that the only one available from official repos?
[10:52] <ikonia> you don't want to use ssl from 3rd parties
[10:52] <emilsp> exactly.
[10:52] <adrian_1908> yeah, looks like libssl1.0.0 is the highest on 17.10
[10:53] <adrian_1908> correction: libssl1.0.2 actually, but not 1.1 either way.
[10:53] <emilsp> I'll try and build the binary on ubuntu and see if it links against libssl1.0 then.
[10:53] <jamz2> hi, is there a way to pass argument to script invoked via pipe?
[10:53] <adrian_1908> yeah, that should would out of the box (the linker finding it etc.)
[10:53] <jamz2> Say there is a myscript.sh that accepts -c and -d arguments, we can normally run it as "./myscript.sh -c 1 -d hello".
[10:53] <jamz2> can we pass same with pipe?
[10:53] <ikonia> jamz2: how do you invoke a script via pipe ?
[10:54] <jamz2> I tried: "curl http://site/myscript.sh | bash -- -c 1 -d hello"
[10:54] <jamz2> without parameter, it works
[10:54] <ikonia> jamz2: that's not really going to work is it
[10:54] <jamz2> "curl http://site/myscript.sh | bash"
[10:54] <EriC^^> jamz2: "man xargs"
[10:56] <emilsp> whilst I'm here, is there a way to configure qemu guest __stuff__ easily? It sort of just worked out of the box on Fedora, and I've installed and enabled qemu-guest-agent
[10:56] <jamz2> EricC, thanks not sure how to work with those curlies :D
[10:57] <ikonia> emilsp: what sort of thing
[10:57] <emilsp> I want auto-resolution resizing and copy-paste to work with libvirt
[10:58] <ikonia> emilsp: that should be just a set of params in the default VM template
[10:58] <cap> just installed ubuntu the other day. so far i'm loving it, but some things are bothering me like the launchpad ( the application menu) this is a pc not a phone or tablet, im not into it. also im hoping for the panel to act as a taskbar eliminating the dock. is there a way to do this?
[10:58] <azizLIGHT> !release
[10:59] <azizLIGHT> !18.04
[10:59] <azizLIGHT> !bionic
[10:59] <SimonNL> bever
[10:59] <azizLIGHT> !beaver
[10:59] <EriC^^> jamz2: you could use curl and save the script to a /tmp file and then run the bash command with the arguments
[10:59] <SimonNL> humm
[11:00] <cap> just installed ubuntu the other day. so far i'm loving it, but some things are bothering me like the launchpad ( the application menu) this is a pc not a phone or tablet, im not into it. also im hoping for the panel to act as a taskbar eliminating the dock. is there a way to do this?
[11:00] <azizLIGHT> is 18.04 out now
[11:00] <emilsp> ikonia: the config between this and the fedora image differs only in the VM image :(
[11:01] <akik> cap: have you tested mate desktop? it could be more usable for you
[11:01] <jamz2> EricC^^, tried "curl http://site/myscript.sh | xargs -I {} bash {} -c 1 -d hello"   but no dice :(
[11:02] <Soul_Sample> cap: you could probably install some GNOME extensions that replace the "launchpad" with a more classic menu. Panels is also doable via extensions, but at that point you could perhaps check out other desktops like Budgie or MATE
[11:02] <cap> @akik no i haven't for many years now.  i want to try ubuntu 17.10 for now. just hoping to fix the 'issues' first.
[11:03] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: see the topic in #ubuntu+1 for link to the release schedule
[11:03] <EriC^^> jamz2: you could do "bash <(curl http://site/myscript.sh) -c 1 -d hello
[11:03] <EriC^^> "
[11:04] <cap> @Soul_Sample i've already tried that yesterday with no success, i was only get to work the arc theme which i love.
[11:04] <jamz2> EricC^^, thanks a lot! this is awesome. TIL something tyvm!
[11:04] <Soul_Sample> cap: no success of finding what you need or generally no success installing extensions?
[11:05] <cap> @Soul_Sample i've installed the extensions for the most part, but the one that is not working is the applications menu from gnome-looks.org.
[11:06] <Soul_Sample> cap: do you mean extensions.gnome.org? there should be plenty others (and more maintained) menu extensions than just one
[11:07] <cap> @Sould_sample yes that's the one.
[11:08] <cap> is it possible to bring back the unity launcher without the side dock?
[11:09] <akik> cap: you could also install unity
[11:09] <azizLIGHT> april 26 wow!
[11:09] <cap> @akik really. i'll look into it :)
[11:10] <cap> im looking into budgie right now. looks neat, but the dock is still there.
[11:10] <akik> cap: it's in the universe repository
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:11] <cap> Thanks @Soul_Sample and @akik ;)
[11:15] <Soul_Sample> akik: but if cap doesn't like "mobile" interfaces, then Unity may not be the best choice. I know it's not a mobile interface, but it GAMFI (gives a mobile first impression) :)
[11:15] <akik> Soul_Sample: that's why i suggested mate first :)
[11:16] <Soul_Sample> cap: in budgie you can move panels around however you want, have one, three, or five. normal task list, iconified task list, start menus, it's really configurable. the newest budgie doesn't even have the dock by default anymore
[11:18] <cap> Guys i've installed budgie in the terminal, so what i have to now is logoff?
[11:18] <cap> @Soul_Sample wow nice :D
[11:19] <akik> cap: select the budige session from the cog wheel
[11:19] <cap> @akik okay. i'll get back here and let u know.
[11:28] <lapaga> in ubuntu-mate i have not found a way to scroll workspace with mouse wheel when on empty part of desktop does ubuntu allow that?
[11:30] <dfch> lapaga: I assume you use unity wm?
[11:31] <cap> Hey guys. i've tried the budgie, unfortunately the side dock is still, no choice but to try the whole budgie os. No options to customize the budgieDE.
[11:31] <lapaga> dfch, right now i am using what ever comes with ubuntu-mate and have not found a way to do it
[11:32] <akik> lapaga: just fyi, plasma 5 has that
[11:32] <lapaga> so does xfce but have been trying others
[11:33] <dfch> lapaga: mate-wm accoriding to google, welp, not sure then, sorry
[11:39] <guiverc> lapaga, what version of Ubuntu-Mate are you using?  I can do it on 17.10 (or mate 1.18.1)
[11:40] <guiverc> note: i'm moving mouse to hover over workspace panel widget; and using scroll wheel there (i missed you said desktop)
[11:42] <lapaga> guiverc, i am using 18.04 and yes i can scroll when hovered over workspaces in the panel but have done it over the desktop for years so sort of used to that
[11:50] <Sven_vB> in apt repos, what's the difference between {,In}Release?
[11:53] <Soul_Sample> cap: isn't there an application called budgie desktop settings that comes installed with the Budgie DE? I tried it 2 weeks ago and configured everything.
[11:54] <BlackDalek> I
[11:56] <BlackDalek> does
[11:57] <BlackDalek> Am
[11:58] <BlackDalek> I
[12:05] <BlackDalek>  I'm trying out telnet. Am I connected?
[12:06] <SwedeMike> BlackDalek: we can see your text, yes.
[12:07] <BlackDalek> does this thign work?
[12:08] <BlackDalek> test
[12:09] <akik> BlackDalek: yes it works. do you have a ubuntu support question?
[12:10] <BlackDalek_> ok.. so messages I can send.. but I can't see any responses in telnet... I was just trying out IRC on telnet. But I guess it doesn't work because I see no messages in channel except my own.
[12:11] <Sven_vB> BlackDalek_, did you receive a ping request that you haven't ponged yet?
[12:11] <BlackDalek_> I was experimenting with the stock telnet client that comes with Ubuntu.
[12:11] <BlackDalek_> I never received any ping request yet
[12:11] <Sven_vB> BlackDalek_, also use netcat instead of telnet. afail IRC doesn't need telnet negotiation.
[12:11] <Sven_vB> or socat, it's even mightier than netcat.
[12:12] <Sven_vB> you might want rlwrap with both of them.
[12:12] <BlackDalek_> I think I will just give up with telnet. I only wanted to try it out for fun ;)
[12:13] <BlackDalek_> Just to see if it could actually work
[12:13] <Sven_vB> it could. I've done it in quakenet times.
[12:15] <seth> I have a RT kernel and my QEMU is still having high DPC latency.
[12:15] <seth> Any suggestions?
[12:17] <BlackDalek> Sven_vB, I really only became interested in telnet again because a telnet client recently became available from old Amstrad CPC 8-bit computers. And since my interest in telnet doesn't extend any further than the use of Ubuntu for its telnet client, I'll shut up and stop flooding the channel.
[12:17] <BlackDalek> *for old Amstrad...
[12:17] <Sven_vB> ok
[12:17] <Sven_vB> seth, what's DPC?
[12:18] <seth> Google it
[12:18] <seth> dpc latency
[12:19] <OerHeks> seth, so why do you not use google to find an answer?
[12:19] <seth> I have looked.
[12:19] <seth> I even custom compiled a kernel to try to fix it. >_>
[12:19] <seth> I been testing different configs for hours.
[12:19] <seth> Trying to get it to stopp.
[12:21] <Sven_vB> amazing how many forum threads there are where people ask what DPC latency is and get no useful answer.
[12:22] <seth> I have tried it all man.
[12:22] <seth> I know what it is.
[12:22] <seth> I researched the kernel of Linux and everything.
[12:23] <seth> DPC is a flaw in how Windows interrupts tasks.
[12:23] <JimBuntu> seth, wouldn't it be more related to device drivers?
[12:23] <seth> It's a really shitty system.
[12:23] <Sven_vB> WP-en only has "Deferred Procedure Call", with a summary that sounds exactly opposite of what the article says it's for. :))
[12:23] <Sven_vB> well I think that's the one you're having problems with
[12:23] <seth> I am using QEMU, the drivers of my motherboard and stuff aren't relevant. I have disabled as many devices in the Device Manager as possible.
[12:24] <seth> I use Virtio drivers as well.
[12:24] <seth> MSI interrupts are also enabled for my drivers.
[12:25] <seth> My Windows runs perfectly fine with GPU acceleration. I just hear sometimes audio pops and it bugs me.
[12:34] <ioria> m
[12:34] <MeiR> i followed this guide to open ports in iptables for xrdp: https://administratorlabs.wordpress.com/2016/08/29/26/
[12:35] <MeiR> in the 3rd rule i used my own ip instead of the mentioned subnet, but i get connection timeout
[12:35] <MeiR> how can i trace the traffic to know what's happenning?
[12:36] <MeiR> trying to connect through Microsoft RDP in Windows 8.1
[12:45] <McLaw> hello
[12:50] <Joel> is anyone aware of a launcher for unity that will let you remove the trash bar, and pin icons to the right? and/or expand programs, so it shows all running windows?
[12:53] <McLaw> tradur ae rapa
[12:56] <Vamp898> Hi there, i have an Ubuntu 16.04 Machine with an weird issue. I have an BASH Script which first sets 3 variables and then executes 2 python commands. When i run this script manually, it works just fine, when i run the script with cron it only executes the first python command and then stops
[12:57] <Vamp898> I setup the MAILTO to see whats wrong, but all i got in the mail was the output of the first command
[13:03] <rory> Vamp898: you need to specify full paths in scripts run by cron
[13:03] <rory> Vamp898: paths to the Python scripts
[13:04] <rory> Vamp898: e.g. /home/vamp/scripts/foo.py NOT ~/scripts/foo.py
[13:04] <EriC^^> Vamp898: the environment in cron is different, $HOME $PATH etc
[13:04] <tomreyn> also the path to python itself should be fully qualified.
[13:04] <EriC^^> Vamp898: add some log to your scripts so the second one gives an output and error log
[13:05] <Vamp898> The first command is "python setup.py" and the second command is "python /path/to/script.py". The first command works, the second not
[13:05] <Vamp898> the second one already produces debug output i can see when i run the BASH script manually, but when i run it using cron, there is just nothing
[13:05] <tomreyn> might be a permission issue then
[13:06] <Vamp898> identical access rights on both files
[13:06] <Vamp898> both have 644 and the same user/group
[13:06] <tomreyn> and directories?
[13:07] <Vamp898> they are in the same directory (dont ask me why the first one doesn't use the full path, but im going to fix it now
[13:07] <Vamp898> The script is not written by me, im just here to setup the cronjob
[13:09] <Vamp898> the second python script uses sudo in the script, could that be a problem?
[13:10] <ne2k> I have a weird problem on xenial. when running the spotify application, using pulse as the audio server, I get a dropout in the music of about 0.5–1s when I close certain other windows, e.g. terminal emulator, chrome, etc. it doesn't happen every time I close a window, but it happens a lot and is very annoying. any ideas of how to debug what might be causing it?
[13:17] <jeffreylevesque> i'd like to do `apt-get install python-dev=latest`
[13:17] <jeffreylevesque> that way i can parametrize `latest`, with a bash variable
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> is there something i can use instead of latest?
[13:18] <Sven_vB> I'm not sure I understand. you want to use a variable in a bash command, to select the version of a package to be installed?
[13:19] <Sven_vB> I guess your bash command is part of a bash script?
[13:19] <jeffreylevesque> yup
[13:19] <Sven_vB> how about $PKG_VER
[13:19] <OerHeks> apt does not understand python-dev=latest
[13:20] <leftyfb> jeffreylevesque: installing python-dev will install the latest available to your version of ubuntu
[13:20] <jeffreylevesque> nice
[13:20] <jeffreylevesque> how do i parametrize it
[13:20] <leftyfb> for what?
[13:20] <jeffreylevesque> in case i want to install a different version
[13:20] <OerHeks> there are no parameters, afaik
[13:20] <jeffreylevesque> i'd like to do `apt-get install python-dev=xxx`
[13:21] <jeffreylevesque> that works but `xxx` has to be valid
[13:21] <jeffreylevesque> can't be `latest`
[13:21] <leftyfb> jeffreylevesque: in the absence of the parameter, just install python-dev
[13:21] <Sven_vB> "man apt-get" has "install pkg [{=pkg_version_number |…}]"
[13:22] <OerHeks> or python3-dev
[13:22] <Sven_vB> oh ic, so you need to make the "=" conditional
[13:22] <jeffreylevesque> yeah
[13:22] <leftyfb> do that in your script
[13:22] <jeffreylevesque> i'm parameterizing my puppet module
[13:22] <jeffreylevesque> having it install at default
[13:22] <jeffreylevesque> but, allowing users to install at a version of their choosing
[13:23] <Sven_vB> then you should probably use puppet's package type instead of apt.
[13:23] <jeffreylevesque> in case latest breaks
[13:23] <jeffreylevesque> i am
[13:23] <leftyfb> jeffreylevesque: then you want #puppet
[13:24] <jeffreylevesque> package { "python-dev=xxx": ensure => installed, provider => xxx }
[13:24] <jeffreylevesque> "python-dev=xxx" is just fed into `apt-get install ___`
[13:24] <leftyfb> jeffreylevesque: Go to #puppet for support with how to use puppet. What you're looking for is not an aspect of apt, but of how to use puppet
[13:24] <Sven_vB> as for how to make the = conditional in bash, use ${PKG_VER:+=}$PKG_VER, or construct a temporary variable conditionally.
[13:25] <jeffreylevesque> maybe `=xxx` will have to be a variable it self
[13:25] <jeffreylevesque> kind of funky
[13:25] <leftyfb> it will, in puppet
[13:25] <jeffreylevesque> thanks
[13:25] <jeffreylevesque> sorry to bother
[13:27] <OerHeks> i think you need to do that in  virtualenv, with python-pip ??
[13:28] <OerHeks> if you list all python-dev packages, only one shows up, AFAIK
[13:28] <jeffreylevesque> $python_dev        = "=${::sklearn::python_dev}"
[13:28] <jeffreylevesque> that's my puppet varible
[13:28] <jeffreylevesque> thanks for all the help
[13:32] <MJCD> its annoying that when you have a .deb file because they choose to not publish through apt
[13:32] <MJCD> you click install package
[13:32] <MJCD> and then the dialog just dissapears with no trace
[13:32] <leftyfb> MJCD: use dpkg in a termnial
[13:32] <MJCD> is it done instantly or what
[13:33] <leftyfb> sometimes you'll need to run apt-get install -f after to grab dependencies
[13:33] <MJCD> leftyfb, I suppose I could do that
[13:33] <MJCD> but I shouldn't have to
[13:33] <Maakay> hi guys :)
[13:33] <OerHeks> MJCD, there is a reason why it is not published in our repos.
[13:33] <MJCD> ubuntu is all about accessibility, and that basically means never REQUIRING the use of a terminal for any basic tasks
[13:34] <MJCD> OerHeks, chrome?
[13:34] <Maakay> it is possible to have back -> this desktop again it seems to be an old gnome desktop right ? -> http://superubuntu.linuxfreedom.com/images/SuperOSDesktop2.jpg
[13:34] <OerHeks> MJCD, so if you use external debs, install them manually and use the tip from leftyfb ...
[13:34] <MJCD> lol ok good so basically just ignore a point of bad ux
[13:34] <MJCD> and work around it
[13:34] <OerHeks> MJCD, chrome-browseer, we are not allowed to package it in our repos.
[13:34] <OerHeks> license issue
[13:34] <MJCD> OerHeks, right, exactly
[13:35] <OerHeks> no other linux version can do that
[13:35] <MJCD> right
[13:35] <leftyfb> MJCD: chrome has their own repo
[13:35] <MJCD> right
[13:35] <leftyfb> so use that
[13:35] <MJCD> so im capable of doing that entirely via gui
[13:35] <Maakay> it is possible to have back -> this desktop again it seems to be an old gnome desktop right ? -> http://superubuntu.linuxfreedom.com/images/SuperOSDesktop2.jpg
[13:35] <MJCD> adding that using synaptic
[13:36] <MJCD> so that's fine
[13:36] <OerHeks> leftyfb, +1, that chrome deb is just a repo line & key
[13:36] <MJCD> no issues there
[13:36] <superkuh> Maakay, you can use the MATE desktop.
[13:36] <MJCD> its just that when you click install it dissapears into headless land
[13:36] <Maakay> mate is so ugly :s :(
[13:36] <MJCD> and I have no idea when its actually done
[13:36] <superkuh> What?
[13:36] <superkuh> I mean, you gotta tweak it.
[13:36] <MJCD> ^^
[13:36] <superkuh> But my MATE desktop looks almost exactly like the the Gnome2 desktop I'm typing this on.
[13:37] <leftyfb> Maakay: https://www.debugpoint.com/2016/04/install-classic-gnome-flashback-in-ubuntu-16-04-replacing-unity/
[13:37] <MJCD> superkuh, get some themes you like from the respective marketplaces
[13:37] <MJCD> done/done
[13:37] <JimBuntu> MJCD, if you right-click the .deb, do you not have the option to open it with Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:37] <MJCD> JimBuntu, oh that might be an idea
[13:37] <Maakay> thanks leftyfb :)
[13:37] <superkuh> That's not really a good option. Gnome Classic.
[13:38] <MJCD> I think currently its set to use gdeb
[13:38] <superkuh> MATE is better since you actually get the real thing, like nautilus scripts (but now called caja scripts).
[13:38] <leftyfb> superkuh: that's called an opinion
[13:38] <superkuh> Yes.
[13:38] <MJCD> let me see if I can just make synaptic the preferred app
[13:38] <leftyfb> superkuh: I've been using gnome classic since Unity was released
[13:39] <superkuh> Looks like gnome2, doesn't work like gnome 2. But probably the best options is trying all of them. gnome classic/flashback, MATE, the cinnamon one that's gnome2'y, etc.
[13:39] <superkuh> No accounting for taste.
[13:41] <MJCD> ok so I right click the .deb file I want to install
[13:41] <MJCD> and its default is gdebi
[13:41] <MJCD> so I go select another app
[13:41] <MJCD> but synaptic or anything isnt showing in the list
[13:41] <MJCD> im pretty sure I uninstalled software centre
[13:41] <MJCD> because synaptic is life, is love
[13:42] <leftyfb> MJCD: so you broke the UX you're complaining about
[13:42] <MJCD> leftyfb, no that is gdebi's UX
[13:42] <MJCD> I will change it but I dont currently have a better option installed
[13:42] <MJCD> software centre sucks
[13:42] <leftyfb> MJCD: Ubuntu will open software center by default and asks you if you want to install it and gives you a nice progress bad ... you know .... a UX
[13:43] <OerHeks> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/<name>.deb and hit enter
[13:43] <OerHeks> lolz
[13:43] <leftyfb> bad/bar*
[13:43] <MJCD> leftyfb, I should note im using ubuntu mate
[13:43] <OerHeks> such a rant, for his own creation
[13:43] <MJCD> its not my own creation
[13:43] <MJCD> its factory default I just shed some weight because its for a vm
[13:44] <OerHeks> No, it is not factory default, and i leave you now with your issue.
[13:44] <leftyfb> superkuh: https://photos.app.goo.gl/l18ycNiLgePqXPQ62
[13:44] <MJCD> It is default to use gdebi in ubuntu mate
[13:44] <MJCD> I have a clean vm and just confirmed
[13:44] <leftyfb> then complain to the MATE team
[13:45] <MJCD> so its their UX I dont like
[13:45] <nemesit|znc> anyone know why my proliant server does not seem to start grub?
[13:45] <MJCD> its not MATE who handle it, its the gdebi team
[13:45] <superkuh> I don't think that statement about gdebi and MATE is true.
[13:45] <MJCD> I suppose I could submit an issue
[13:45]  * leftyfb sigh
[13:45] <superkuh> But maybe they've changed in the last year?
[13:45] <superkuh> And yeah, leftyfb, I know it can look like gnome 2. But it doesn't function like it. Also that Mac bar. :|
[13:46] <MJCD> so the unanimous answer is; use software centre?
[13:46] <leftyfb> superkuh: I added that because I like it
[13:46] <leftyfb> superkuh: and yes, it functions just fine
[13:47] <MJCD> aaah in synaptic there's just a menu button for adding a downloaded package
[13:47] <MJCD> yay
[13:48] <MJCD> urgh
[13:48] <leftyfb> I think I've used synaptic like twice in my life. It's almost the opposite of user friendly
[13:48] <MJCD> but wont let me select that one package
[13:48] <superkuh> leftyfb, you can run nautilus scripts on it?
[13:48] <MJCD> I dont mind synaptic
[13:48] <MJCD> aptitude is ok too
[13:49] <MJCD> but people will be remoting into these vm's so ideally everything that CAN have a gui SHOULD have a gui
[13:52] <MJCD> synaptic wont recognize any of these .deb files
[13:52] <MJCD> just tried chrome, same thing, wont select
[13:52] <MJCD> its greyed out
[13:52] <MJCD> agg
[13:52] <leftyfb> sudo dpkg -i <pkg.deb>
[13:52] <MJCD> is the software centre package just called software-centre
[13:54] <hrsykov> hello
[13:56] <MJCD> very confused why add downloaded package
[13:56] <MJCD> doesn't work in synaptic
[13:56] <MJCD> with 2x .deb files
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: have you checked if your package is in our repos?
[13:57] <MJCD> chrome isnt
[13:57] <MJCD> and this other one isnt either I dont believe
[13:58] <MJCD> its a early stage systemd-manager gui
[13:59] <tomreyn> i think you can actually "apt install /path/to/package.deb" nowadays. less experienced users are more likely to break their system by installing (random) 'deb' files using this direct approach, though.
[13:59] <MJCD> hey I don't care how they choose to distribute their stuff
[13:59] <MJCD> I just wanna use it
[13:59] <MJCD> and yes I can open a terminal and do it
[13:59] <MJCD> but that's working around the problem not solving it
[14:00] <MJCD> certainly not ideal
[14:02] <TJ-> tomreyn: correct, but *must* use an absolute or relative path component !
[14:03] <generalfluffles> i need immediate help
[14:03] <JimBuntu> !ask | generalfluffles
[14:03] <generalfluffles> okay ubottu i apologize
[14:03] <generalfluffles> i am facing a problem with the usage of java
[14:04] <JimBuntu> generalfluffles, no worries, I was simply giving you the info so that you could get immediate help
[14:04] <generalfluffles> i receive this question in terminal
[14:04] <generalfluffles> Which Java Virtual Machine would you like to use?
[14:04] <generalfluffles> Note: the JVM must be version 1.5.0 or newer.
[14:04] <generalfluffles> what do i reply?
[14:05] <MJCD> ok, meh `apt install ./goog.deb`
[14:05] <generalfluffles> ive installed openjdk-8 and 9
[14:05] <MJCD> still annoying, software centre is trash
[14:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[14:05] <MJCD> its as trash as the microsoft store
[14:05] <generalfluffles> software center is trash
[14:05] <generalfluffles> yes
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: dont generalize things like that in this channel please
[14:05] <MJCD> lotuspsychje, that complaint makes no sense lol
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> MJCD: if you want to discuss something, move to #ubuntu-discuss please
[14:06] <MJCD> I was seeking support and we got it resolved. :/
[14:06] <MJCD> the mods in here need to check their attitude
[14:06] <MJCD> peace
[14:08] <generalfluffles> thanks OerHeks
[14:08] <TJ-> Is there a way to configure netplan with systemd-networkd when the interface names are not known? Seems like a major defect if not
[14:09] <leftyfb> I think netplan is a major defect. Not ready for primetime
[14:09] <leftyfb> I really hope I'll still be able to use ifupdown with 18.04
[14:10] <BluesKaj> I tried netplan, it works, but the interfaces and ifupdown files are easier to setup
[14:10] <akira_> halo
[14:11] <generalfluffles> okay OerHeks thank you really much
[14:11] <TJ-> systemd-networkd (when you know the interface details) or network-manager (when you don't) are easier to configure
[14:12] <andy_wfc> O
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> andy_wfc: how can we help you?
[14:13] <andy_wfc> sorry, typo
[14:13] <BluesKaj> i avoid network-manager.if possible
[14:14] <TJ-> NM is fab, it will auto configure and use DHCP for any interfaces without needing the interface to be configured
[14:14] <andy_wfc> I've got a brand new 16.04 machine that's hung shutting down with "a stop job is running". It's been hung now for about 20 minutes so I don't think any kind of timeout is going to kick in. Is there anything I can do that's cleaner than holding down the power button? ctrl+alt+fx won't give me a terminal and ctrl+alt+del doesn't seem to do anything
[14:14] <TJ-> andy_wfc:hold down Alt+SysRq then whilst holding them press, in turn, R E I S U B
[14:14] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[14:14] <TJ-> andy_wfc: those are kernel commands that clean things up and sync discs before rebooting
[14:16] <generalfluffles> i just installed  a bin file with chmod a+x name_of_the_file and ./name_of_the_file but i dont know how to run it
[14:17] <andy_wfc> TJ: thanks
[14:17] <generalfluffles> after i installed it it added a file in my desktop but it isnt jar
[14:17] <ne2k> generalfluffles, wut
[14:17] <JimBuntu> generalfluffles, what is the complete filename?
[14:18] <generalfluffles> ...
[14:18] <TJ-> generalfluffles: then you need to read the documentation for the file/package you installed
[14:18] <generalfluffles> spiral-install.bin
[14:18] <generalfluffles> TJ-, there is none it said "its too simple to need instructions"
[14:19] <JimBuntu> ./spiral-install.bin starts it up or no?
[14:19] <generalfluffles> it installed it but i dont know how to run it
[14:19] <generalfluffles> sooo
[14:20] <generalfluffles> after the installation it added a file that shows as an icon a blank page
[14:20] <MoonManT> when i try to activate an OpenVPN connection using the network manager command "nmcli connection up vpn_conn" i get the following error "Error: Connection activation failed: Could not find source connection." I only get the error when there is no default route on the ethernet connection does anyone know why? i added static routes to the vpn server.
[14:21] <generalfluffles> plus i checked properties and it has Name/Description/Command/Comment
[14:21] <generalfluffles> only name and command are filled
[14:21] <generalfluffles> can i format it to a java file or will that harm it?
[14:21] <ne2k> generalfluffles, where did it install it?
[14:21] <generalfluffles> Desktop
[14:21] <ne2k> generalfluffles, no it didn't
[14:21] <ne2k> it put a shortcut on the desktop
[14:22] <yang2009> hi
[14:22] <ne2k> urgh, I'm talking like WIndows. it's a launcher, not a shortcut
[14:22] <generalfluffles> eh
[14:22] <generalfluffles> but
[14:22] <generalfluffles> it
[14:22] <generalfluffles> uh
[14:22] <generalfluffles> okay
[14:22] <generalfluffles> how do i run it
[14:23] <generalfluffles> okay
[14:23] <ne2k> generalfluffles, I think I've found the thing https://wiki.spiralknights.com/Installation_FAQ is this it? if so, it apparently asks you where you want to install it. so, where did you tell it to install it?
[14:24] <generalfluffles> ne2k, i only typed "Desktop"
[14:24] <ne2k> generalfluffles, ok, so maybe it did install it in Desktop, then
[14:25] <ne2k> did it create files and/or directories in Desktop?
[14:25] <generalfluffles> it did
[14:25] <ne2k> and is there a file in there called Spiral?
[14:25] <duke> I'm having some issues with getting audio playback to work on my shitty trekstor wintron 10.1 tablet, which I installed Lubuntu on the other day. Basically, the drivers seem to be installed just fine and when I play back any audio the audio mixer even shows it playing, but for some reason the audio doesnt get through to the inbuilt speakers nor to any headphones I plug in. It runs an Intel Atom, anyone able to help me out with that?
[14:26] <duke> Most other things work just fine, okay, webcam doesnt seem to work yet, but not too worried about it. Just audio seems rather important.
[14:26] <generalfluffles> theres a file named Spiral Knights ne2k in desktop but it has no other clues
[14:26] <generalfluffles> ne2k, like
[14:26] <generalfluffles> can i format it to java?
[14:26] <ne2k> duke, does it have an HDMI or S/PDIF audio interface, and might you be playing through that instead of the analogue out? have you checked the list of audio output devices? are you using pulseaudio?
[14:27] <olbrook> testing testing  this thing on?
[14:27] <ne2k> generalfluffles, that question make no sense. are you sure that "Spiral Knights" on the Desktop is in fact a file, and not a directory?
[14:27] <ne2k> what happens if you double click on it? what happens if you open desktop in the file browser and look at that?
[14:27] <duke> ne2k: yea, it does have HDMI output and pulseaudio. I also suspect some audio routing issue to be the thing.
[14:28] <tomreyn> olbrook: please test elsewher ein the future.
[14:28] <ne2k> duke, try running alsamixer as it often shows up additional controls like mute/headphone blah that you might not have thought of
[14:28] <generalfluffles> ne2k, nothing does happen it only leads to a notification that says there was an error launching the application
[14:29] <donofrio> is there a "TheDraw" for ubuntu or libreoffice? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheDraw
[14:29] <generalfluffles> i actually have that
[14:29] <ne2k> generalfluffles, and have you tried running it under sudo sh like it says?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> donofrio: perhaps the #libreoffice channel might know that?
[14:29] <dl> d
[14:29] <olbrook> \join #irc.warwick.ca.uk
[14:29] <generalfluffles> no...
[14:29] <generalfluffles> that may be it
[14:30] <generalfluffles> i faced it just like any other bin file
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> generalfluffles: easy on the enter button please
[14:30] <generalfluffles> but its special :o
[14:30] <generalfluffles> lol
[14:30] <duke> ne2k: heres the alsa-info output https://pastebin.com/Hfs0ejeP
[14:31] <generalfluffles> ne2k, hang on ill try using the instructions and see if it works
[14:31] <dongleiirc> d
[14:34] <black_13> how do you mount cifs share and it not be root
[14:34] <generalfluffles> okay im sorry
[14:34] <donofrio> lotuspsychje, libre folks said No it does not, so I'm here wondering deos ubuntu have any command line tools like cow but for full ANSI words and such
[14:34] <generalfluffles> ill slow it down
[14:34] <generalfluffles> ne2k, sudo sh does not work
[14:35] <generalfluffles> oh i didnt do cd
[14:35] <generalfluffles> lol
[14:35] <dongleiirc> Hi. Could someone help me to register an account of sourceforge.net. Thanks! :)
[14:36] <leftyfb> donofrio: toilet will do text
[14:36] <leftyfb> donofrio: and asciiart will convert an image to ascii
[14:37] <leftyfb> donofrio: as for an editor, use gedit or any other text editor
[14:38] <generalfluffles> how can i open a java type game that root owns....
[14:38] <JimBuntu> I would suggest you chown the files to yourself
[14:38] <generalfluffles> howww
[14:39] <maor> EKKO
[14:39] <generalfluffles> JimBuntu, how can i do that?
[14:39] <leftyfb> maor: can we help you with something?
[14:39] <leftyfb> apparently not
[14:40] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, do u know how to open a game taht root owns?
[14:40] <generalfluffles> or change the permissions
[14:41] <zanshin> generalfluffles: If you do a google search for using chown to change ownership, you should find something to help you make the files owned by you and not root
[14:41] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: In linux, usually a properly installed application(game) will be owned by root. That shouldn't be a problem. I'm guessing you're trying to play some weird game not installed properly or something
[14:41] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: What game? How did you install it?
[14:41] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, i did not install it properly
[14:41] <leftyfb> ^
[14:41] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, spiral knights i installed it through a bin file
[14:42] <leftyfb> gross
[14:42] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: and what do you instructions for the game say about running it after it's installed?
[14:42] <leftyfb> you/the
[14:42] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, like i can play anything else in this demonic os
[14:42] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: ok, good luck
[14:43] <leftyfb> every other app and game works, but it's the OS's fault of course
[14:43] <leftyfb> Not the game which installs via a bin file
[14:44] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: read the documentation for the game. Seek support from the game developer/distributer. The OS(Ubuntu) is working fine.
[14:44] <generalfluffles> hell yeah it does ;_;
[14:44] <sopparus> does dhclient eth0 work regardless of settings I have?
[14:46] <ioria> generalfluffles, running it in terminal will give you additional infos about the error
[14:48] <ChiLLabiS> What is Ubuntu's Alt+F4 that windows have? Need to know how to shutdown games and etc
[14:48] <sopparus> ctrl+c usually
[14:48] <ChiLLabiS> Didn't work on WoW
[14:50] <duke> ne2k: It seems to be the case that the system defaults to the hdmi audio channel, currently trying to edit the alsa config to make it default to the proper one.
[14:50] <ne2k> duke, your output is odd, it suggests that alsa can't find any cards
[14:50] <duke> its weird
[14:51] <duke> ne2k: here is what aplay -l says https://pastebin.com/hiN8maMV
[14:51] <duke> The bytcrrt5640 device must be the proper one
[14:52] <ne2k> duke, have you looked at pavucontrol?
[14:52] <ne2k> duke, if you're using pulse, you shouldn't really need to look at alsa stuff at all
[14:52] <haojie> hello
[14:53] <ne2k> haojie, is that 豪杰 or 浩劫 ? ;-)
[14:53] <lapaga> duke have an old soundblaster card and had to install pavucontrol
[14:53] <haojie> 豪杰
[14:53] <ne2k> haojie, quite a difference ;-)
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> tofu?
[14:54] <duke> Hm, is there a default screenshot tool in Ubuntu?
[14:54] <ne2k> duke, gnome-screenshot
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !zn | haojie
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !zh | haojie
[14:54] <ne2k> lotuspsychje, duh
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> usually pressing Prt Scrn or Print Screen key on the keyboard launches screen capture by default
[14:55] <JimBuntu> duke, print screen for full screen(s), shift+print screen for selectable size/box
[14:56] <ne2k> duke, and Alt-PrtScr for a single window!!!
[14:56] <Hdphn> hi
[14:56] <Hdphn> if I install ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[14:56] <Hdphn> is it better or installing 18.04
[14:56] <Hdphn> for later upgrading to 18.04LTSw
[14:56] <Hdphn> without any issues
[14:57] <JimBuntu> Hdphn, 16.04 is the current LTS, 18.04 is in code freeze I think, but not officially released
[14:57] <Hdphn> so.. if 18.04 release
[14:57] <Hdphn> can I upgrade from 16.04
[14:57] <Hdphn> or do I need fresh install
[14:57] <Hdphn> ?
[14:57] <JimBuntu> 18.04 is due to be released around the end of this month, you will be able to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 if/when you want to
[14:57] <leftyfb> ChiLLabiS: ALT+F4
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: we advise you to wait until 18.04.1
[14:58] <ne2k> Hdphn, you have always been able to do-release-upgrade from LTS to LTS in the past; I see no reason why they would have dropped it
[14:59] <duke> ne2k, JimBuntu: only one issue, I run LUbuntu which has LXDE, so hold on a second. :D
[14:59] <ne2k> duke, can you run pavucontrol?
[15:00] <duke> ne2k: I can yes
[15:00] <duke> ne2k: wanted to create a screenshot of it
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, 16.04 LTS is currently the supported LTS release, 18.04 LTS will be released towards the end of the month. Once 18.04 reaches a stable point (bugs chased out not found in beta) a 18.04.1 release will be issued which will coincide with the upgrade tool being able to upgrade 16.04 to 18.04.1.  As long as you stick to Ubuntu maintained PPAs and software you will not likely encounter any issues with upgrading
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> that would require a reinstall
[15:01] <Hdphn> are you sure
[15:01] <Hdphn> or I should wait for 18.04 LTS
[15:01] <leftyfb> yes
[15:01] <Hdphn> I never waited for any distro :( sadly ubuntu is making me think twice
[15:01] <Hdphn> because once I set up my OS
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: its your choice what you do
[15:02] <Hdphn> I dont want any issues that requires re installation
[15:02] <Hdphn> sure its mine but I need your honest advise
[15:02] <JimBuntu> Hdphn, you can choose to run with scissors, I don't think anyone will stop you, chances are that you wont even get hurt
[15:02] <leftyfb> Hdphn: the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 should be fine
[15:02] <Hdphn> in archlinux, Its rolling release so I never had to think before downloading the iso. for this one, I am confused.
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: if you dont want issues, take the advice to wait till 18.04.1
[15:02] <Hdphn> leftyfb: especially if its unity to gnome
[15:02] <Hdphn> I feel worried
[15:02] <leftyfb> then wait
[15:03] <Hdphn> urgh
[15:03] <JimBuntu> wait, Hdphn multi-boot
[15:03] <Hdphn> noway
[15:03] <Hdphn> aint nobody got time to maintain dual
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, 17.10 current runs the same version of Gnome that is available in 18.04
[15:03] <confluency> Hdphn: nothing is going to change your existing Unity to Gnome, to the best of my knowledge.
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> issues with gnome desktop will be small
[15:03] <Hdphn> if I get 17.10 can I go for 18.04 LTS upgrade
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, yes
[15:04] <duke> ne2k: http://puu.sh/A0e0B/75c98e8947.png thats what it shows there, the Port dropdown doesnt have any other things in it. And under Configuration I can only choose the profile analog stereo-output.
[15:04] <confluency> Oh, I see; you're picking a release to install from scratch now.
[15:05] <confluency> Hdphn: it doesn't really matter whether you install 16.04 or 17.10 at this stage; you can upgrade directly to the new LTS from both of them.
[15:05] <confluency> OK, it does a bit; it will determine what DE you start off with.
[15:05] <confluency> But you can change that.
[15:06] <Hdphn> confluency: sure I can
[15:06] <Hdphn> but without any issues
[15:07] <Hdphn> just like new install of 18.04?
[15:07] <Hdphn> if yes, I will go ahead and use 16.04 now
[15:07] <Hdphn> please confirm
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, issues occur when you step out of the Ubuntu ecosystem
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: you can never be 100% no issues will arise
[15:07] <OerHeks> *if* you upgrade, download the iso and make an USB before hitting the upgrade button
[15:07] <confluency> Hdphn: nobody can *guarantee* you "no issues".
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> lotuspsychje, not true... user created issues can occur
[15:07] <Hdphn> thats what I thought lol
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: there is no magic 1 button
[15:07] <confluency> Hdphn: my advice is: it's unlikely to make a big difference; pick whichever one you want.
[15:08] <Hdphn> LTS should mean stability for long term
[15:08] <Hdphn> :P
[15:08] <Hdphn> confluency: I see.
[15:08] <confluency> Then pick the LTS.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: thats why we advise LTS to LTS upgrade wait until .1
[15:08] <confluency> If you want newer software, pick the non-LTS.
[15:08] <bcx> I hit this BT issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/983053, any ideas ?
[15:09] <confluency> I use LTS on my work laptop and non-LTS on my personal laptop. I've had problem-free upgrades for as long as I can remember.
[15:09] <Hdphn> lotuspsychje: I can wait but I need to use something now
[15:09] <leftyfb> Hdphn: boot a live cd
[15:09] <confluency> So pick the one which meets your needs better.
[15:10] <Hdphn> if there will be no difference between me using 16.04 now and upgrading it to 18.04 lts VS installing 18.04LTS from scratch
[15:10] <Hdphn> then its great.
[15:10] <Hdphn> because once I set up my OS. I am too busy to re install entire stuff
[15:10] <confluency> Nobody can guarantee that there will "be no difference". But I think we all agree that there probably won't be and there is very little risk.
[15:11] <Hdphn> if I install ubuntu gnome 16.04
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: even if you upgrade LTS to LTS, you should take backups...
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, again... you will not likely have any issues upgrading from the currently supported releases to 18.04 later. AS LONG AS YOU STAY in the Ubuntu ecosystem. That means not installing 3rd party applications or PPAs.
[15:11] <Hdphn> it will be smooth upgrade right
[15:11] <confluency> I don't reinstall anything unless I get new hardware.
[15:11] <Hdphn> confluency: you were on 14.04?
[15:11] <confluency> And nothing bad has happened in a literal decade.
[15:11] <Hdphn> 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS was a BIG MESS!!
[15:11] <confluency> Hdphn: when? At some point, yes.
[15:12] <confluency> I don't remember it being a big mess, but YMMV.
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: you cant generalize things like that
[15:12] <Hdphn> I had experienced it
[15:12] <confluency> I would have done that on my work laptop, and I don't recall any major disruptions.
[15:12] <Hdphn> :D
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> Hdphn: anyway enough if discussing, move to ubuntu support please
[15:13] <leftyfb> Hdphn: you've been made aware of your options. Good luck.
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, that's too general and doesn't tell us anything. I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 with out any issues. Again, most of the issues I've seen where an upgrade does not go smoothly is because a PPA was added, 3rd party application was installed, or a configuration file was modified and the ugprade tool didn't know what to do with it.
[15:13] <Hdphn> leftyfb: so I am going to install 16.04 LTS now. and hope I wouldnt need re installation
[15:13] <Hdphn> I dont add PPAs
[15:13] <Hdphn> they are insecure
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> Hdphn, if you want a problem free upgrade.  You can restore it back if something goes wrong
[15:14] <Hdphn> you know the only reason I am coming back to ubuntu from archlinux is stability and get my work done without tinkering my OS
[15:14] <Hdphn> hopefully upgrade to 18.04 wont ruin it
[15:14] <leftyfb> Hdphn: thanks for the insult
[15:14] <Hdphn> what insult ? sorry I didnt mean to
[15:23] <roshanjha> Hi
[15:23] <roshanjha> https://imgur.com/a/fK7jB my ubuntu 16 is giving this issue
[15:23] <roshanjha> And its not starting and shutdown
[15:25] <tomreyn> roshanjha: which ubuntu release? fully patches / updates?
[15:25] <tomreyn> *patcheD
[15:25] <ioria> roshanjha, try with nouveau.modeset=0
[15:26] <roshanjha> ioria: sorry  is this command ?
[15:27] <ioria> roshanjha, you know how to set a kernel boot parameter ?
[15:27] <roshanjha> tomreyn: latest ubuntu 16 release
[15:27] <roshanjha> ioria: no
[15:27] <akik> roshanjha: call it 16.04 or 16.10, not 16
[15:27] <ioria> !nomodeset
[15:27] <tomreyn> roshanjha: there is no "ubuntu 16", you probably mean "16.04 LTS" or "16.10"?
[15:28] <ioria> roshanjha, you need to diaplay the grub screen and edit the kernel line : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[15:32] <ioria> roshanjha, tap  Shift after  bios ; find the 'linux /boot/vmlinux' line and where you see 'quiet splash' add   nouveau.modeset=0; boot with ctrl+x or f10
[15:32] <duke> Hm, think pulseaudio is screwing with the audio a bit, gonna investitage.
[15:32] <roshanjha> tomreyn: ok. I will try
[15:33] <duke> Meanwhile, I have another issue bugging me with this shitty trekstor wintron 10.1 tablet... the screen never really shuts off completely after some idle time... any idea what stuff I need to edit to make that happen?
[15:33] <roshanjha> Also should i go for Ubuntu 17 ?
[15:33] <roshanjha> I installed fresh 16 latest release
[15:34] <duke> roshanjha: if you are using it on a Desktop then go for 17. On a server I'd still use 16.04.
[15:35] <nacc> duke: roshanjha: 17.10, not '17'
[15:35] <roshanjha> Yes desktop. Also there is lts coming for Ubuntu 18 in this month. Should I wait for Ubuntu 18 or she i go for 17 for this time
[15:35] <ioria> again
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> roshanjha, it is important that you tell us the complete version number. It is VERY important difference between 16.04 and 16.10
[15:35] <ioria> watch this:
[15:36] <ioria> !17
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> fail
[15:36] <ioria> !17.10
[15:36] <dfch> been using bionic for quite some time, getting better and better
[15:36] <ioria> roshanjha, see the difference ?
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> dfch, Do you have a support question?
[15:36] <dfch> for server still debian :D sorry
[15:37] <dfch> pragmaticenigma: my bad, will shut up right away (irc under influence)
[15:37] <roshanjha> Ok. I m on mobile and my laptop is not working to check the installed release that's why i am saying primary number like 16-17
[15:38] <duke> dfch: Haha, my work uses Debian on their servers.
[15:38] <duke> I myself run Ubuntu on all my servers
[15:38] <JimBuntu> roshanjha, `lsb_release -a` isn't working?
[15:40] <ioria> roshanjha, spam 'shift' (or esc) right after the bios screen ; you should get the Grub screen: this is the first step
[15:51] <gnyrfta> identify shumpi kalvsylta
[15:51] <gnyrfta> dude, dat security though
[16:38] <generalfluffles> clear
[16:38] <generalfluffles> oops
[16:38] <TJ-> Before I start, can anyone think of any gotchyas if I build a new rootfs by rsyncing from a running OS (ignoring /proc ... /run and so on ) ?
[16:39] <generalfluffles> im facing a problem installing a bin file and running
[16:39] <generalfluffles> running the installed file i meant
[16:39] <tomreyn> TJ-: /boot/efi, too? any databases there?
[16:39] <generalfluffles> okay
[16:40] <generalfluffles> then
[16:40] <nacc> TJ-: /etc/machine-id
[16:40] <nacc> TJ-: iscsi target identifier, ssh host keys
[16:40] <generalfluffles> ugh
[16:40] <nacc> generalfluffles: what is your actual question?
[16:40] <TJ-> yeah ... it's an embedded headless device currently booted from a USB
[16:41] <nacc> TJ-: yeah so those may not matter, just thinking of things we've had to consider for cloud images, it's similar
[16:41] <nacc> TJ-: as to what makes something unique and what should be generated at first boot, etc
[16:41] <generalfluffles> i cant run  a bloody file i need help i hate my life
[16:41] <TJ-> just trying to avoid another debootstrap session (already built the boot USB that way)
[16:41] <TJ-> nacc: yeah, UUIDs and so on for sure.
[16:41] <generalfluffles> okay i like japanese
[16:42] <nacc> generalfluffles: is the file meant to be 'run'? how are you running it and what error d you get?
[16:42] <generalfluffles> i just cant open it
[16:42] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: is this about that game again?
[16:42] <generalfluffles> sudo sh name_of_file
[16:42] <nacc> generalfluffles: 'open' is not the same as 'run'
[16:43] <generalfluffles> it isss for me
[16:43] <generalfluffles> well
[16:43] <generalfluffles> yes you're right
[16:43] <OerHeks> using sh for a .bin file??
[16:43] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, u know nothing at all happened
[16:43] <nacc> generalfluffles: why are you running the script as root?
[16:43] <generalfluffles> OerHeks, ofc
[16:43] <generalfluffles> im not
[16:43] <generalfluffles> actually
[16:43] <nacc> generalfluffles: you just said 'sudo ...'
[16:43] <tomreyn> OerHeks: he used to be playing with a makeself binary.
[16:43] <generalfluffles> sudo sh
[16:44] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: you know it's on steam right? Why not just install steam and get the game that way?
[16:44] <nacc> generalfluffles: use a pastebin, show the exact command run and the exact ouptut.
[16:44] <nacc> *output
[16:44] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, is it?
[16:44] <generalfluffles> wow
[16:44] <leftyfb> yes
[16:44] <generalfluffles> ooooo
[16:44] <generalfluffles> i thing my account got deleted
[16:44] <leftyfb> although, maybe not for linux now that I checked
[16:44] <generalfluffles> bloody hell
[16:45] <generalfluffles> wiw
[16:45] <generalfluffles> wow
[16:45] <generalfluffles> okay im becoming a bit annoying to this channel
[16:45] <generalfluffles> and thats because im impatient for ubuntu 18.04
[16:45] <nacc> generalfluffles: stop using enter as punctuation, please
[16:46] <generalfluffles> why shouldnt i?
[16:46] <kostkon> !enter
[16:46] <nacc> generalfluffles: because it's annoying and noisy in the channel.
[16:46] <generalfluffles> ok
[16:46] <generalfluffles> let me test
[16:46] <generalfluffles> !enter
[16:46] <generalfluffles> wow
[16:47] <nacc> generalfluffles: please stop. this is not a channel to 'test' in.
[16:47] <generalfluffles> oh i see ill keep everything on line if that bothers you
[16:47] <generalfluffles> wait let me go to freenode
[16:47] <generalfluffles> okay then
[16:48] <leftyfb> generalfluffles:
[16:48] <leftyfb> sh spiral-install.bin
[16:48] <leftyfb> first
[16:48] <leftyfb> sudo rm -rf ~/spiral ~/Desktop/Spiral*.desktop
[16:49] <leftyfb> then: sh spiral-install.bin
[16:49] <generalfluffles> ye i figured that out after you told me about root
[16:49] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: that will install it
[16:49] <generalfluffles> im not getting why sudo makes a difference though
[16:49] <leftyfb> don't use sudo
[16:49] <leftyfb> then: sh spiral-install.bin
[16:49] <leftyfb> that's it
[16:50] <generalfluffles> okay then
[16:50] <leftyfb> and just hit enter for any questions it asks
[16:50] <leftyfb> then your icon on your desktop will work
[16:51] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, root is still the owner
[16:52] <leftyfb> them you didn't do as I said above
[16:52] <leftyfb> sudo rm -rf ~/spiral ~/Desktop/Spiral*.desktop
[16:53] <generalfluffles> yes i did
[16:53] <ioria> generalfluffles, ls -l spiral-install.bin
[16:53] <leftyfb> is the "file" still there?
[16:53] <leftyfb> ioria: it's ok, I got this, it's stupid simple
[16:53] <ioria> ok
[16:53] <leftyfb> ioria: I just downloaded, installed and ran the game
[16:54] <leftyfb> it just sticks everything in ~/spiral and puts an icon on your desktop
[16:54] <generalfluffles> okay
[16:54] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: ok what? Do the files still exist?
[16:54] <generalfluffles> nope
[16:54] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: then: sh spiral-install.bin
[16:55] <generalfluffles> this is becoming tiresome
[16:56] <JimBuntu> generalfluffles, this is actually the game... you find out once you get it running
[16:56] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: Tell me about it. It's hard to help someone when all they want to do is complain but not actually rely information when asked
[16:56] <leftyfb> rely/relay*
[16:57] <generalfluffles> okay
[16:57] <generalfluffles> then
[16:57] <leftyfb> ok WHAT?
[16:57] <generalfluffles> i did sh spiral bla bla
[16:58] <generalfluffles> then i go to my desktop
[16:58] <generalfluffles> click the file i installed
[16:58] <leftyfb> "sh spiral bla bla" isn't a valid command
[16:58] <generalfluffles> "sh spiral-install.bin"
[16:58] <generalfluffles> is
[16:58] <leftyfb> Did you run that as your user or as root or with sudo?
[16:58] <generalfluffles> user
[16:59] <generalfluffles> im not even using root anymore
[16:59] <leftyfb> ok, now the icon on your desktop. Is it just the Spiral Knights purple icon or does it gave a lock on it?
[16:59] <generalfluffles> okay i installed it and it isnt owned by root
[16:59] <leftyfb> ok
[17:00] <leftyfb> now play your game
[17:00] <generalfluffles> thats the thing it doesnt have the icon plus everytime i click i get 'There was an error launching the application' notification
[17:03] <generalfluffles> meh the game doesnt worth that much effort either way
[17:04] <generalfluffles> im using it as an example to prove how simple java games are...
[17:04] <generalfluffles> like a test
[17:05] <generalfluffles> and im becoming frustrating and annoying so i apologize and im leaving
[17:35] <yangw683> h
[17:35] <yangw683> h
[17:35] <yangw683> h
[17:45] <linuxr_> Hi all...so here I am, still stuck trying to boot a freshly installed ubuntu from my newly-installed SSD drive...all I get is a "no bootable device" found error. WHen I hit ctrl-alt-del, it appears to boot though. I also noticed that on cold boot, the bios quickly lists the available devices, and ssd is missing. After reboot, it's there. Any ideas?
[17:47] <nacc> linuxr_: if your bios doesn't list the device ... that's a bios issue, most likely?
[17:48] <hk_> Hi, I have RS485-to-USB converter, my linux can reconize it but i cannot find it in /dev/tty*, thx for help
[17:48] <linuxr_> nacc, probably yes. I have no wonder what I can do about that, though. Maybe someone got an idea?
[17:48] <nacc> linuxr_: did you see if there are any bios updates from the vendor?
[17:49] <linuxr_> nacc, seems to be quite a recent bios. There is one upgrade, don't know how to install that without windows though (it's an .exe file)
[17:50] <nacc> linuxr_: right, you probably need windows
[17:51] <JimBuntu> linuxr_, I would look at changing values in BIOS, maybe turn off quick boot if it's on, enable USB booting (to slow the process down)/etc
[17:52] <linuxr_> JimBuntu, already tried that, there is no "quick boot option", unfortunately
[17:52] <nacc> linuxr_: you could also see if others with the same mobo hit a simliar problem
[17:52] <linuxr_> nacc, I found one dude with this problem, he solved it by installing a different SSD drive :/
[18:02] <quem> i need an 802.11ac compatible card that works out of the box with ubuntu. any suggestions?
[18:02] <quem> usb or pci doesn't atter.
[18:13] <pragmaticenigma> quem, Here is a page with all wireless hardware certified to work with Ubuntu. https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/category/WIRELESS/
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> quem, from that link there are a few Realtek adapters listed
[18:29] <tomreyn> quem: i'd go with a chipset the ath10k driver supports: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath10k https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath10k
[18:34] <quem> tomreyn: thank you
[18:34] <quem> pragmaticenigma: thank you too
[19:32] <floogy> Hi, is it possible to upgrade to bionic beta from 16.04.4 LTS?
[19:33] <leftyfb> !bionic | floogy
[19:36] <richardwhiuk> Currently running 14.04 using upstart - moving to 16.04. Currently we've got a service which will emit one of two events. There's then two other services, each of which lists for the event specific to their service before starting. Any recommendation on how to translate this into systemd?
[19:39] <xamithan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:42] <ioria> richardwhiuk, ^ that  was for you
[19:44] <floogy> leftyfb, what do you think how much time it will take to the first poin-release. I want to find out if I try to upgrade to beta or rather to the point-release, because I'll not have the time from next week until June. I think I might be better off with the point release, right?
[19:45] <leftyfb> floogy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[19:45] <leftyfb> floogy: and please see the post from ubottu to you
[19:45] <floogy> Ok, thank you!
[19:50] <Sari2018> can anyone help me how do i move or make a shortcut of Application from Unity to DASH? ubuntu 16.04
[19:51] <ioria> Sari2018, from unity to dash ?
[19:52] <larry> color test
[19:54] <Sari2018> @Loria - Yes All Application Sits on the Unity Left Bar and I want to move them to DASH(DesktoP)
[19:55] <Sari2018> @Loria Also whenever there is a Third Party Application installed it will have to be search and open each time once closed.
[19:55] <ioria> Sari2018,  pin it in the launcher
[19:56] <ioria> Sari2018,  or make a .desktop file (shortcut) on Desktop
[19:58] <ioria> Sari2018,  you can also drag  the app  from dash to the launcher  directly
[19:59] <nukeeSiMOHD> ciao
[20:00] <nukeeSiMOHD> !list
[20:00] <larry> color test
[20:02] <whitebeast> im having a few problems with another computer of mine, im stuck in grub mode, is that something you guys can help with or is that somewhere else i should be checking?
[20:03] <mibu> Hi, is there anyone that can help me with cifs/ftp?
[20:03] <quick-> whitebeast: What is the error in grub mode ?
[20:03] <quick-> mibu: What help do you need ?
[20:06] <mibu> well, im trying to set a group i made as the owner of a "fileshare" but it doesnt seem to work.
[20:06] <whitebeast> '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. i checked a few videos on youtube but none of them seem to work right
[20:08] <mibu> i tried with this command: sudo chown -R :elbilftp /media/ftpshare01 . The folder is hosted on a windows server via smb
 Sari2018,  you can also drag  the app  from dash to the launcher  directly ???? No idea how to do it.
 Sari2018,  pin it in the launcher ....No idea how to do it?
[20:10] <quick-> mibu: Sorry. Can't help with windows :-(
[20:10] <quick-> whitebeast: https://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found#286028 Did you try this ?
 Sari2018,  or make a .desktop file (shortcut) on Desktop-- No idea
[20:10] <nacc> mibu: does the ownership change?
[20:11] <Sari2018> I can't Drag and Drop Application Icon from Unity Launcher to Desktop in ubuntu 16,04
[20:11] <nacc> mibu: you need to give more details tahn "it doesn't seem to work"
[20:11] <Sari2018> It is not like Windows
[20:11] <mibu> No it doesnt change but gives no error
[20:11] <quick-> Sari2018: if you have access to terminal type `touch x.desktop` and it will create the file
[20:11] <Sari2018> Where is the .Desktop File exisit ?
[20:12] <Sari2018> @Quick ok let me try
[20:12] <quick-> Sari2018: Go to ~/Desktop and then execute the command
[20:12] <Sari2018> I tired nothing happen command successful
[20:13] <quick-> Sari2018: try ls and you'll see a file
[20:13] <mibu> it's only root that can rw on that folder. all other users/groups get permission denied
[20:13] <nacc> mibu: how is it mounted?
[20:13] <nacc> mibu: and what is the permission on the mountpoint?
[20:14] <mibu> via fstab i think, its the firsttime im handing with this stuff so im not quite sure
[20:14] <nacc> mibu: no, not what mechanism, what options?
[20:15] <Sari2018> I did ls and I see X.desktop, examples.desktop  and others but I do not see them on GUI
[20:16] <mibu> cifs, it's a network share
[20:17] <Sari2018> oh I change the Dir to Desktop now I see the Fold on the Desktop I created in TERMINAL
[20:17] <whitebeast> quick, it doesnt really apply to me as i am stuck in grub, there is no os on the hardrive and im using a usb boot, ive done it with the all the pieces before.
[20:17] <whitebeast> it just dosnt want to now and im not sure why
[20:17] <Sari2018> before I ran the command touch x.desktop on at the root
[20:18] <Sari2018> File created on the desktop and I see it
[20:18] <Sari2018> now what do i do with the X.Desktop File
[20:19] <mibu> nacc: cifs
[20:19] <Sari2018> @Quick What do i need to do with x.desktop file ?
[20:21] <nacc> mibu: that's the filesystem type, not hte options used
[20:22] <cluelessperson> hey guys, I'm having trouble with my WIFI on my laptop
[20:22] <cluelessperson> this Unifi AP is rated for 1300 Mbps, but ubuntu shows a speed of 400 Mbps
[20:23] <mibu> nacc: well im just a skid, i hope i get it right this time: \\<IP_ADDRESS>\Fes\ftpshare  /media/EL-Data  cifs  username=elbilftp,password=Nfvs8HD4sT89A4,domain=data.local,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[20:23] <xamithan> 1300 is widely unrealistic on consumer wifi
[20:24] <xamithan> That is probably rated for 1300 within 1 foot of the AP and only on 5ghz
[20:24] <nacc> mibu: yes, that's what i was looking for
[20:26] <OerHeks> so "sudo chown -R :elbilftp /media/ftpshare01"  is wrong, and should be /media/EL-Data  ??
[20:27] <nacc> mibu: --^
[20:27] <mibu> nacc: what i know is that there is a windows server share where the files are. my pc will be uploading stuff there as another user, not root. but only my root user can rwx there and chown command doesnt work
[20:28] <OerHeks> sounds like permissions/groups on that windows share need to be editted...
[20:30] <mibu> nacc: i did a typo and edited th command to the right path. still no success
[20:30] <cluelessperson> am I looking for wifi n support?
[20:30] <nacc> mibu: i'd check what OerHeks said, and I'd check what the permissions on /media/EL-Data were *before* you mounted it
[20:30] <OerHeks> and chown on a windows share, i think it does not work that way with smb
[20:31] <nacc> right, i'd be suspicious at best
[20:31] <cluelessperson> 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
[20:34] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, and what is your issue exactly?
[20:35] <mibu> OerHeks: so the permission problem lies within the windows server?
[20:35] <cluelessperson> OerHeks: I get 400Mbps connection, 1300 is expected
[20:36] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, sounds good > Max speed for single antenna on AC is around 433 Mbps
[20:37] <cluelessperson> OerHeks: well, this 7265 dual band intel card is capable of 800+
[20:37] <goatia> Hi all, Please could someone help, for some reason I lost my main volume control tab, Im new at Studio and still trying to find my way around. System was fine last night, when I start up now it takes longer than usual. I suspect it might have something to do with plugging in a Yamaha Keyboard on USB, not sure, any help and guidence will be appreciated
[20:38] <cluelessperson> main volume control tab?
[20:38] <cluelessperson> goatia: can you screenshot it to show us?
[20:39] <goatia> Yes, top right I had a dropdown that I could control the output volume
[20:39] <Julien> Julien
[20:39] <cluelessperson> goatia: if you click the volume/speaker symbol?
[20:39] <goatia> now I have no control at all
[20:40] <goatia> That speaker is missing
[20:40] <cluelessperson> goatia: Hit "Windows" (Super) key, then type "volume" and click "Sound" when that app appears in the list
[20:40] <cluelessperson> or type sound
[20:40] <goatia> lets try
[20:43] <pankaj> How to download ubuntu 9.0 torrent?
[20:43] <goatia> nothing happens when I push the windows key, I forgot to mention, Im using Ubuntu Studio
[20:44] <lordcirth_work> anyone know a quick hack to make a file really slow to write to, like /dev/full but hanging instead of ENOSPC?
[20:44] <leftyfb> pankaj: there is no such thing as ubuntu 9
[20:46] <pankaj> leftyfb: Sorry, Ubuntu Karmic Koala. I have to use a legacy application and author has suggested it.
[20:46] <pankaj> leftyfb: I want to download it via torrent.
[20:46] <leftyfb> pankaj: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:47] <OerHeks> pankaj, it is 12 or up .. http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ .. else old versions iso http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ ( but the torrent links are dead
[20:47] <leftyfb> nobody will be seeing a distro from 8 years ago
[20:47] <leftyfb> seeding*
[20:47] <OerHeks> indeed, pure overkill
[20:49] <OerHeks> do not trust other torrent sources :-)
[20:49] <pankaj> OerHeks: OK.
[20:49] <pankaj> OerHeks: I am relieved. At last their is no other option left
[20:49] <pankaj> OerHeks: Thanks
[20:49] <OerHeks> have fun!
[20:51] <cheguacamole> why do people prefer torrents in this situation
[20:54] <OerHeks> maybe one would expect old torrents to be alive, not a static oldversions cd-image page
[21:09] <Maraket> hey channel, curious if anyone has used hiri on ubuntu? currently I am using a windows vm to use outlook and the office 365 suite, but noticed it on the repo and can't really find any ubuntu user reviews
[21:10] <ozberk> hi guys got a question does compiz still supported
[21:11] <ozberk> guess not
[21:11] <yella> Hi gents I'm having some Samba issues.
[21:12] <yella> I want a nonelevated user to be able to write to a smb share hosted on 2k16 but I get permission denied
[21:12] <yella> I have guest account enabled on that folder.
[21:13] <yella> mount.cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/media /mnt/media/ --verbose -o ,user=Guest,password=password
[21:13] <yella> Thats the command im using. Can anyone help me out/
[21:30] <qih> Hi, I installed Ubuntu Desktop 64Bit 17.10 yesterday, after using LXDE for a year. All works fine but it seems that I cannot PING anything except the internal Gateway (Modem/Router), yet I have internet connectivity. I am pretty sure I changed nothing that would disable outgoing PING. Any idea?
[21:32] <mibu> yella: is it the first time you try to do this? has it worked before?
[21:32] <ekennedy80> So netbeans doesn't work on bionic because of java9?
[21:34] <yella> mibu: its the first time i've done it
[21:35] <yella> Elevating the prompt with sudo writes to the directory just fine. Unfortunately I need the regular account to be able to write to this tmp directory.
[21:35] <nacc> ekennedy80: please stick to #ubuntu+1 for bionic/18.04
[21:35] <yella> I've tried everything on the Windows 2k16 side to let this folder have no security
[21:37] <tomreyn> qih: what happens when you do? what's the error message?
[21:37] <qih> tomreyn: Nothing, it just hangs as if the required IP address is wrong or deliberately blocking
[21:38] <tomreyn> qih: so you ran ping directly against an ip address, not a hostname?
[21:38] <qih> I can ping the gateway, and all internal machines, just nothing out
[21:38] <qih> Yes, against some local (NZ) DNS servers
[21:38] <tomreyn> qih: do you have firewalling configured on your router then?
[21:39] <qih> I do, but it remains the same, the *only* thing that I have changed apparently in 196 days is the DNS servers from the ISP to Google, nothing else.
[21:39] <tomreyn> qih: maybe your router assigned your desktop computer a different IP address and tus different policies are applied to it now?
[21:39] <tomreyn> *thus
[21:40] <qih> tomreyn: NFI, I'll check although the Huawei Modem UI and docs are rather obtuse
[21:40] <mattfly> is it possible to hibernate ubuntu 18.04? how should i do?
[21:41] <tomreyn> qih: since you can ping the gateway fine but not the internet, it looks a lot like the issue is outside of the desktop
[21:41] <nacc> !ubuntu+1 | mattfly
[21:42] <mattfly> i dont find this channel
[21:42] <mattfly> ubuntu+1 ??
[21:42] <mattfly> oh sorry
[21:42] <mattfly> thanks
[21:43] <tomreyn> qih: yet another suggestion: maybe your desktop has multiple ways to connect to the router, such as ethernet and wireless. and in the past you used a different way thanyou happen to use after the upgrade (again resulting in different routing firewall or policies applying to it now)
[21:43] <qih> Good theory, but I only have ETH/NIC
[21:45] <qih> OK so now it works, I cna ping company websites and specific IP addresses ... I changed nothing, in fact the connection has seemed a bit off lately.
[21:45] <qih> I checked the log, it seems all attacks are being stopped as per the rules, NFI what is going on, thanks for the advice anyway
[21:46] <tomreyn> some of the cheaper routers need an occasional restart, but i guess you'd be aware
[21:47] <qih> Yeah, we've made a few support calls in the past few weeks for random connection issues, that resolve through switching off the connection and modem. HW failing perhaps?
[21:48] <tomreyn> possible. or road works, or anything else.
[21:48] <OerHeks> change cable?
[21:48] <mibu> yella: do you use any protocol other rhan cifs/smb
[21:49] <qih> Is Ubuntu 18.10 going to be much different or just another polished release with all updates?
[21:50] <nacc> qih: ... 18.10 hasn't even started yet
[21:50] <tomreyn> we do not know. it won't be an LTS release.
[21:51] <qih> Er 18.04
[21:51] <qih> K
[21:51] <tomreyn> 18.04 will be LTS
[21:51] <qih> Ah
[21:51] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[21:51] <yella> mibu: I don't. I just need this php script to be able to write to a temp folder on a Storage Spaces box.
[21:52] <OerHeks> no new features, and xorg standard, so not wayland but will be available in the login
[21:52] <qih> OK, I'm not really fussed, 17.10 is great
[21:53] <OerHeks> err build in minimal install, forgot about that
[21:56] <owlz> could I have some help with freezing Kubuntu 16.04 after suspend?
[22:05] <birkoff> how do I add source repo to sources.list for WSL Ubuntu ?
[22:08] <nacc> !ubuwin | birkoff: but i wouldn't think it would matter if you are on wsl
[22:18] <birkoff> well then where do they reside and how should I be adding them ?  the closest match I've found is main/source
[22:18] <birkoff> in archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[22:19] <nacc> birkoff: so you don't know how to write deb-src lines?
[22:19] <birkoff> now i do
[22:27] <cluelessperson> So, 5ghz Wifi on ubuntu appears to suck and I can't figure out why
[22:27] <cluelessperson> anyone have any idea?
[22:46] <Budgii> anyone know how to connect to another desktop with xrdp? all the tutorials im finding are from windows to linux, not linux to linux.
[22:47] <cluelessperson> My wifi is stuck at 400Mb/s when I expect at least 800 + :/
[22:48] <Budgii> cluelessperson, Is it your receiver?
[22:49] <Budgii> can it handle 800+ that is?
[22:49] <cluelessperson> Budgii: It's a Unifi AC Pro, rated for 1300+
[22:49] <Budgii> yikes. where are you getting the information that its at 400?
[22:53] <Budgii> cluelessperson, I know different online speed tests will give me different results, literally by the hundreds
[22:54] <royal_screwup21> how do I set a temporary enviroment variable? export VAR="foo" sets it permanent, if I'm not wrong
[22:54] <cluelessperson> Budgii: The link speed shows 400Mb/s
[22:54] <cluelessperson> link speed has nothing to do with bandwidth tests :P
[22:54] <Budgii> okay I must have missed something, sorry
[23:11] <theTOOLM1N> hey there! having some issues, need help. i just reinstalled my ubuntu 16.04 system because i thought there was a bad configuration.
[23:12] <theTOOLM1N> here i am unable to open my xfce4-display-settings and other utilities. they close with a trap divide error.
[23:12] <theTOOLM1N> i cannot open minetest because it tells me that the fonts aren't there. (log shows where and ls confirms they exist)
[23:13] <theTOOLM1N> i'm running ubuntu server 16.04 with xfce4 and gdm3
[23:13] <goatia> Hi all, can anyone help me with audio problem, not connecting to pulseaudio
[23:13] <theTOOLM1N> i installed everything and all was working well
[23:13] <theTOOLM1N> but now i've shut it down and started it back up and my task bar looks different and i'm getting all these errors trying to open applications
[23:13] <theTOOLM1N> i reinstalled ubuntu because of this already once
[23:14] <theTOOLM1N> journalctl isn't showing any errors that stand out to why everything is broken
[23:17] <theTOOLM1N> is anybody even here?
[23:17] <goatia> I am also waiting response
[23:17] <gogeta> theTOOLM1N, you must construct additional pylons
[23:20] <gogeta> goatia, just got hear so i didnt see the questions
[23:21] <goatia> I seem to have audio problems, PulseAdio wont connect
[23:21] <xamithan> Not really much help to do for software errors like that.  If you can reproduce it there is likely already a bug report out there
[23:21] <xamithan> If there isn't,  file one
[23:22] <gogeta> goatia, as no audio out?
[23:22] <gogeta> goatia, sometimes your speakers are not marked as defult may wanna check that
[23:24] <goatia> I have Audio if I use jack with my input devices, but no audio an say YouTube
[23:24] <gogeta> goatia, yea check in your pulse audio controle app
[23:25] <goatia> It wont establish connection when I try go into it
[23:26] <gogeta> goatia, ah
[23:26] <goatia> Is there a way that I can reinstall pusle auio?
[23:26] <gogeta> goatia, its probly not pulse but a driver problem with your sound card
[23:27] <goatia> I have checked for driver updates etc, but found none WRT sound
[23:27] <gogeta> gogeta, what sound card is it
[23:29] <goatia> It is internal, but I do have an exteral Steinberg UR22 USB ASIO , but havnt connected it
[23:30] <gogeta> goatia, pass this in a termnal lspci -v | grep -i audio
[23:31] <lungaro> Is there something more modern than pbuilder ?
[23:31] <gogeta> goatia, shuld tell us what card you have
[23:31] <nacc> lungaro: sbuild
[23:31] <nacc> lungaro: or use lxd's
[23:31] <lungaro> i want an easier experience building packages for each distribution. For instance, on precise, why can't I build xenial
[23:31] <lungaro> Hmm, i was thinking about lxds, but that's basically doing it all myself
[23:31] <nacc> lungaro: well, precise is eol, for one thing
[23:32] <lungaro> well bad example
[23:32] <nacc> lungaro: but you watnt sbuild which uses schroots
[23:32] <goatia> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:32] <goatia> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[23:32] <lungaro> rgr
[23:32] <nacc> and can use lxds, lungaro
[23:32] <lungaro> nice
[23:34] <lungaro> i'm trying to speed up a compilation and I think dpkg-source is screwing me. Should dpkg-source preserve last modified time of the build root?
[23:34] <lungaro> (i'm probably abusing debian at this point)
[23:34] <lungaro> debian/ubuntu*
[23:42] <gogeta> goatia, you can try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:43] <goatia> Thanks for helping, I will check out that site..
[23:43] <gogeta> goatia, it resets pulses configs
[23:44] <goatia> Thanks I will let you know if it works :)
[23:45] <Hanumaan> is dd_rescue and ddrescue same or different? installing gddrescue got ddrescue but not dd_rescue
[23:50] <lucas_ai> Anyone know how to make realtime video streaming that can be embedded in HTML or Iframes? Real time meaning less than 200ms delay. Similar to video conferencing found in facebook, skype, hangouts, etc.
[23:52] <gogeta> lucas_ai, shure but i charge 80$ a hr to make that
[23:52] <gogeta> lol