[02:28] <axisys> 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 03)
[02:28] <mneptok> c0ld: is there a hardware wifi switch on the machine? is it turned on?
[02:29] <Lifestream> philh, Billiard  I'm going to try what they sugested, I'll report back with update :P
[02:29] <c0ld> yes and I have tryed pushing it and it still does nothing
[02:29] <btakita> jbuncher: Interesting. Maybe it will be fixed soon. I hope so.
[02:29] <rictec> c0ld, you didnt disabled the card from some kind of key combination ?
[02:29] <nuvan> anyone know why my networking service would be stuck on stop/waiting?
[02:29] <Grelmy> What is better, emacs or vi/m?
[02:29] <c0ld> key combination?
[02:29] <mom> hi my audio keeps breaking in supertuxkart
[02:29] <c0ld> like sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[02:30] <c0ld> thats it
[02:30] <rictec> some lap has it
[02:30] <btakita> Gremly: Which religion is better. Christianity of Islam? :-)
[02:30] <lepban> hey guys, does anyone here use LaTeX ?
[02:30] <philh> Grelmy, silly question, try them and find out
[02:30] <DesertEagle> rictec, wow! it actually worked
[02:30] <DesertEagle> rictec, how'd you know it'd work? :)
[02:30] <syn-ack> hah
[02:30] <Out_Cold> Grelmy, that's like comparing pepsi to coke... you'll just get opinions
[02:30] <deviant-route> Vi FTW
[02:30] <mom> it works fine then all of a sudden it starts clicking
[02:30] <DesertEagle> VI!
[02:30] <rictec> DesertEagle, great
[02:30] <syn-ack> emacs is for losers! :P
[02:30] <losha> Grelmy: a pointless debate between red or green. Whichever you like better...
[02:30] <Grelmy> haha
[02:30] <syn-ack> /EoT
[02:30]  * DesertEagle throws paper balls at emacs
[02:30] <mom> and when ubuntu starts the startup sound is all crackly
[02:30] <kevinluikens> is there a better channel to ask questions about grub in?
[02:31] <tonsofpcs> #grub
[02:31] <syn-ack> kevinluikens, #grub
[02:31] <kevinluikens> syn-ack: thanks.
[02:31] <syn-ack> wwow
[02:31] <Grelmy> Good point, I shouldn't have asked. What is better, KDE or Gnome?
[02:31] <arquebus> vi if your stuck in the console, graphical vim (gvim) is fail
[02:31] <syn-ack> sorry to steal your thunder, tonsofpcs
[02:31] <m3F> does anybody know why my sound output is enabled only when it is over 13% of volume? Ubuntu Karmic, using Pulseaudio, sound card Audigy SE 5.1
[02:31] <philh> Grelmy, almost the same question
[02:31] <sblunix> Grelmy: I find Gnome better :(
[02:31] <Pici> !best | Grelmy
[02:32] <DesertEagle> rictec, so does that mean i shouldn't trust locate 100%?
[02:32] <c0ld> sigh*
[02:32] <Grelmy> What can't you trust locate?
[02:32] <rictec> DesertEagle, i didnt know locale has that .....not see all kinda bug too
[02:32] <m3F> is here any Ubuntu sound system expert?
[02:32] <mneptok> Grelmy: you can, if you set a cron job for updatedb
[02:32] <b0w> DesertEagle: you just have to give it the right parameters
[02:33] <DesertEagle> b0w: know of a link for that?
[02:33] <Grelmy> mneptok: I just do a "sudo updatedb" right before using locate
[02:33] <DesertEagle> ditto
[02:33] <jbuncher> btakita, I can't find the info I'm looking for on efi bios and grub 2, but I'd just keep trying to get grub-legacy installed
[02:33] <rictec> b0w, what it too lol will man do? i read man and it didnt
[02:33] <arquebus> Grelmy- if you are new to console editors, you will find emacs easier to transition to because in graphical mode it can act just like any other graphical editor (you can do everything from toolbar and menus while you learn hotkey commands)
[02:33] <DesertEagle> but apparently... .config is invisible
[02:33] <mneptok> Grelmy: show-off ;)
[02:34] <c0ld> sure am going to miss ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[02:34] <Mefached> I've been playing with Lisp for a while and it's been working fine, but now Slime won't connect (it tries to connect to a port and times out). Python is giving me the same error. How do I fix this?
[02:34] <zechs> Out-cold: i uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, still have the problem
[02:34] <c0ld> was just starting to like it
[02:34] <c0ld> until it gave me issues
[02:34] <jbuncher> btakita, in fact, maybe try booting a jaunty livecd and then following the "install grub legacy" instructions after chrooting that you sent me earlier.
[02:34] <Yondering> hmmmm just experimenting with 9.10 here.. anybody else noticed what appears to be a massive memory leak in the process gnome-volume-control-applet?
[02:34] <rictec> c0ld are you on a laptop?»
[02:34] <Grelmy> arquebus: heh, actually I prefer gedit to both vim and emacs... but I'm not a programmer
[02:34] <DesertEagle> zechs: did you remove the settings dir?
[02:34] <mom> maybe i should try to install alsa?  does it do pulse audio by default?
[02:34] <axisys> my laptop keeps going to suspend if idle .. do I change this paramter for it not to go suspend ever when idle? LM_SECONDS_BEFORE_SYNC=2 in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[02:34] <btakita> jbuncher: Ok. I realized that Ubuntu created a sda3 "boot" partition by default
[02:34] <c0ld> yes
[02:34] <DesertEagle> Yondering, nope, but it volume switcher button sure is slow :(
[02:34] <c0ld> Im on a laptop
[02:35] <Uso> hello
[02:35] <Morgansl> 'night
[02:35] <mom> is there a channel for ubuntu audio issues?
[02:35] <Yondering> DesertEagle, I'm watching the process's memory use climb here by about 200kb every 10 seconds
[02:35] <mneptok> c0ld: *please* try to keep things on one line. asking you multiple times is becoming tiresome.
[02:35] <btakita> jbuncher: Maybe that holds the key
[02:35] <rictec> c0ld, laptops have switch to disable wireless did you check that?
[02:35] <Grelmy> haha Cold, awesome song
[02:35] <Uso> what are the differences between ubuntu the the ubuntu server version?
[02:35] <dscassel> mom: pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa.
[02:35] <arquebus> Grelmy-well stick with gedit then
[02:35] <c0ld> yes
[02:35] <Yondering> currently it's at 207.1 MiB
[02:35] <c0ld> I have checked that
[02:35] <zechs> Deserteagle: sudo apt-get remove firefox should remove it all right?
[02:35] <b0w> DesertEagle: well some times locate dont do the trick, try this "find /path/to/search/from -type d -iname 'PATTERN'"
[02:35] <Grelmy> Uso: ubuntu server doesn't come with a gui
[02:35] <Out_Cold> mom, just ask your question and someone might know the answer
[02:35] <c0ld> still same error
[02:35] <DesertEagle> zechs: not necessarily, not even purge sometimes =\
[02:36] <Uso> Grelmy, and a preinstalled server?
[02:36] <nuvan> ok, so i've just installed 9.10, and now have no network on my laptop.  no eth0, no wlan0 even though they worked fine in 9.04.  the ath9k module is present and loaded, but I see in dmesg "ath9k: unable to attach hardware; HAL status -5"
[02:36] <jbuncher> btakita, that it could.  Also, turns out I had my info backwards.  Grub-legacy doesn't support efi, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing  I'm not sure if grub2 does though.
[02:36] <rictec> c0ld what is the error?
[02:36] <mom> Out_Cold, I did, how do I keep it from crashing when I play games?
[02:36] <zechs> Deserteagle: so what should I do to remove it ALL lol
[02:36] <btakita> jbuncher: True, but our boots worked w/ grub legacy
[02:36] <mom> and the start up sound is all crackly
[02:36] <Out_Cold> mom, what game? is wine installed? do you have a graphics card?
[02:36] <c0ld> rictec SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
[02:36] <btakita> jbuncher: So I'm not sure what to believe
[02:36] <mom> Out_Cold, supertuxcart
[02:36] <Grelmy> Uso: um, i guess a pre-installed server is like a server but... preinstalled?
[02:37] <DeaD_LocK> Hey everyone :)
[02:37] <b0w> DesertEagle: you can also use the find option in <Places>
[02:37] <dublued2> does anyone know how to switch between pulse audio and alsa mixer in karmic?
[02:37] <Uso> right so theres no other difference than that it comes with servers preinstalled and no gui?
[02:37] <mneptok> zechs: sudo apt-get purge firefox && rm -r ~/.mozilla  <--- will delete your Firefox profile, including bookmarks
[02:37] <b0w> DesertEagle: i find very usefull the "locate" plugin on Gnome-do
[02:37] <syn-ack> dublued2, change your defualt mixer in your sound settings
[02:37] <Out_Cold> mom, so why do you think the sound is the problem with the game?
[02:37] <DesertEagle> b0w: what's Gnome-do?
[02:38] <dublued2> in jaunty you could choose between pulse and alsa and sigmatel from sound prefs, but karmic doesn't have that.  how can we switch between them in karmic
[02:38] <Xcell> gnome-do is cool
[02:38] <dublued2> syn-ack:  it's not in sound settings like it was in jaunty
[02:38] <btakita> jbuncher: OMG, the installer installed a partition with bad geometry
[02:38] <rictec> c0ld its still a open bug
[02:38] <syn-ack> dublued2, oh. hah sorry mate
[02:38] <rictec> c0ld let me see if a workarround exists
[02:38] <c0ld> rictec yah so what do I do with it?
[02:38] <b0w> DesertEagle: an application launcher from gnome, and it has a very famous dock interface
[02:38] <btakita> jbuncher: I used the largest continuous space option
[02:38] <jbuncher> btakita, that sucks.  I found this link, might be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/EFI-Boot-Mactel#Getting GRUB2 EFI
[02:38] <c0ld> ok
[02:38] <zechs> mneptok: doing that now
[02:39] <dublued2> syn-ack:  thanks nonetheless
[02:39] <losha> Uso: and you can start with the server install and remove & install stuff so it ends up equivalent to desktop i.e. its basically the same stuff, just differs what you get by default...
[02:39] <syn-ack> mmmm I have grub-efi
[02:39] <syn-ack> its goodness
[02:39] <c0ld> rictec, http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311886 well this is my post but apparently this doesnt work now the solution
[02:39] <mom> Out_Cold, because it works fine and then goes out after a minute or two, staticky noise
[02:39] <jbuncher> btakita, ah.  I always do manual partitioning.  I just don't trust something to auto-mess with my partition tables :)
[02:39] <syn-ack> jbuncher, and its NOT a Mac, but rather an HP
[02:39] <Baconizer> philh: er, no?
[02:40] <Uso> alright, thanks Gremly losha
[02:40] <mom> Out_Cold,  and it sounds staticky when the ubuntu sound first plays
[02:40] <Out_Cold> mom, you need to be more descriptive, what works fine then cuts out? and when?
[02:40] <philh> Baconizer, er what?
[02:40] <btakita> jbuncher: Yeah, I going to delete it
[02:40] <mom> Out_Cold, all audio works fine
[02:40] <jbuncher> syn-ack, I thought he said it was a Mac Pro?
[02:40] <mom> Out_Cold, then it all cuts out and you hear staticky noises
[02:40] <rictec> c0ld read this
[02:40] <mom> Out_Cold, then it comes back
[02:40] <rictec><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:40] <Out_Cold> when you play the game and start up?
[02:40] <syn-ack> jbuncher, he did, I have an HP with EFI. :p
[02:41] <Out_Cold> or all the time?
[02:41] <mom> Out_Cold, then it goes
[02:41] <mom> Out_Cold, after a few seconds of playing
[02:41] <jbuncher> syn-ack, ah, ok.  Was confused for a second.
[02:41] <airforceguy> Any thoughts on windows 7? im thinking of switching for a while ....
[02:41] <mom> Out_Cold, it intermittently goes in and out
[02:41] <airforceguy> and btw love ubuntu
[02:41] <mom> Out_Cold, but it mostly is out
[02:41] <mneptok> !offtopic > airforceguy
[02:41] <dublued2> how do i switch between pulse and alsa?
[02:41] <rictec> c0ld read<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:42] <btakita> jbuncher: I took a look at that. I didn't follow through w/ the compile though
[02:42] <Knoxville> member:airforceguy I just put win 7 on a domain today for the first time and I was impressed.  My boss also was impressed when I gave it to him.
[02:42] <philh> dublued2, i don't really know, but i found myself forced to sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[02:42] <rictec> c0ld and wait for now
[02:42] <Yondering> airforceguy, windows 7 is good, if you absolutely need windows for an app.  But I'd look harder for linux alternatives first.
[02:42] <Out_Cold> mom, so all the time, the sound is cracking, including when you play the game and start up and whatever else?
[02:42] <btakita> jbuncher: I took a look at that. I didn't follow through w/ the compile though
[02:42] <dublued2> philh:  so if i remove pulseaudio alltogether, the system will default to alsa?
[02:42] <btakita> jbuncher: sorry about the 2x post
[02:43] <mom> Out_Cold, playing back audio mp3 and oggs i havent heard cracking yet
[02:43] <dublued2> philh:  and if i want pulse again i can just reinstall that and it will default to pulse again?
[02:43] <jbuncher> btakita, ok.  I don't know what else to suggest other than to try to get back to what you had before with grub-legacy.
[02:43] <mom> Out_Cold, but games yes, and the startup sounds yes
[02:43] <philh> dublued2, yep
[02:43] <dublued2> philh:  what kind of sound card do you use
[02:43] <btakita> jbuncher: that makes sense to me
[02:43] <airforceguy> Ya, at first I was like linux and that is it forever...but now im realizing I can make windows 7 look and perform just like ubuntu and still have all the apps im etching to have....
[02:43] <philh> the moment you install the package it gets fired up and takes over everything, it's horrible
[02:44] <philh> dublued2, whatever via ac97 is on my motherboard
[02:44] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:44] <tj83_> airforceguy, thats what i am am talking about i know its off-topic but is spirit lifting I love Ubuntu too. In fact i have been trying CentOS and sadly disappointed you get a linux kernel system bash shell and thats it. forget repos... little. Its about humanity indeed. WE love Ubuntu
[02:44] <Uso> whats the best way to check if my cpu is 64 capable if i dont know for sure?
[02:44] <Uso> 64bit
[02:44] <mom> Out_Cold, would there be a log place for pulesaudio?
[02:44] <zechs>  I go about going BACK to 9.4
[02:44]  * sblunix is alive
[02:45] <zechs> 9.04
[02:45] <mom> Out_Cold, its like it is dropping sound packets
[02:45] <jbuncher> Uso, what cpu do you have?
[02:45] <philh> Uso, why do you want to know? do you have lots of ram?
[02:45] <Out_Cold> mom, i am pretty sure there is, and that might not be a bad idea but i have to go.
[02:45] <btakita> jbuncher: I'm a little shy about upgrading to grub2, but I'll try again with the next dist-upgrade I guess
[02:45] <mneptok> Uso: are you using Linux now?
[02:45] <Uso> yes
[02:45] <Uso> catr /proc/cpuinfo
[02:45] <btakita> jbuncher: Thank you
[02:45] <Uso> -r
[02:45] <jbuncher> btakita, no problem, wish I could have been more help.
[02:45] <mneptok> Uso: pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[02:45] <Uso> if tlm flag is set, cpu is 64bit capable?
[02:46] <IdleOne> Uso: uname -a will tell you also
[02:46] <Uso> lm* damnit
[02:46] <syn-ack> btakita, upgrading to GRUB2 is rather painless, mate
[02:46] <Uso> IdleOne, the kernel version, but i couldve installed a 32bit version on a 64bit cpu
[02:46] <Yondering> Uso, Ubuntu 9.10 supports PAE-enabled cpu's now in 32-bit, by default.  I'm using the 32-bit release with 8gb, didn't need to change a thing.
[02:46] <rictec> AMD amd amd ....amd
[02:46] <IdleOne> Uso: you're right sorry
[02:46] <syn-ack> btakita, just whatever you do, follow the directions in the ubuntu HOWTO
[02:46] <btakita> syn-ack: I wish what you said applied to my situation
[02:46] <btakita> syn-ack: I did
[02:46] <btakita> syn-ack: a few times
[02:47] <btakita> syn-ack: others are having issues too, so it's not just me
[02:47] <Uso> mneptok, do i have to look for the cflush size or the flags?
[02:48] <syn-ack> btakita, suck. :/
[02:49] <btakita> syn-ack: What?
[02:49] <syn-ack> your situation
[02:49] <Uso> philh, no, not really, why?
[02:49] <Balsaq> what maintenance should i perform on ubuntu OS's? i cannot find much about it in the forums or in the OS itself? should i simply download filehippo ccleaner and defraggler?
[02:49] <blah569> What's a decent editor for writing C and C++ files?  I like gEdit, but I would prefer intellisense that can read information from #include lines, etc.  Just a simple editor with intellisense.  I prefer making my own build files through a CLI compiler.  Better if I'm able to just ctrl + n for a new file, and save to a dir of my choice instead of setting up a "project" in the editor.
[02:50] <Grelmy> Balsaq: You don't really need to defrag
[02:50] <syn-ack> Balsaq, all those apps... they're windows apps
[02:50] <btakita> syn-ack: yeah. It does. I'm motivated enough at this point to add to any relevant bug reports though
[02:50] <syn-ack> with a nick such as yours I suspect you already know this
[02:50] <Balsaq> wow so i do nothing?
[02:50] <syn-ack> btakita, Please do! we need all we can get
[02:51] <spartan7> Problem installing packages- says I must run sudo dpkg --configure -a manually
[02:51] <Balsaq> syn-ack the q is silent
[02:51] <Grelmy> Balsaq: Yeah, it's really low maintenance. Most of the filesystems don't get very fragmented with normal use
[02:51] <spartan7> Im running ubuntu kk
[02:51] <philh> Uso, i was just wondering if you had a particular reason for wanting a 64bit linux, i've heard little positive about 64bit over 23bit
[02:51] <philh> 32*
[02:51] <syn-ack> Balsaq, sure it is
[02:51] <iarp> head
[02:51] <rictec> spartan7, do it
[02:51] <Balsaq> Grelmy so they NEVER need derag?
[02:51] <spartan7> Tried it doesn't work
[02:52] <Uso> philh, i'd try it for server usage
[02:52] <rictec> philh i m running 64 bits its faster but very anoying sometmes
[02:52] <blah569> I'm trying out Anjuta
[02:52] <Grelmy> !defrag | Balsaq
[02:52] <philh> rictec, faster, interesting
[02:52] <syn-ack> Balsaq, with the way the UNIX filesystems are designed defragging is either not needed or rare
[02:53] <Darksoul_> hello everyone
[02:53] <mom> how do i submit my pulseaudio log to launchpad?
[02:53] <Balsaq> Grelmy the longer i have ubuntu the more i t hink it is superior toi windows
[02:53] <Darksoul_> is there a way to make ubuntu ask me for my pwd everytime ?
[02:53] <Freeaqingme> syn-ack, it is. It's just that the system does that itself (by design), right?
[02:53] <rictec> philh, faster on 8GB machine but most of the comun progs are 32 bits so...
[02:53] <spartan7> Says E:_cache->open() failed, please b
[02:53] <spartan7>    Report
[02:53] <Balsaq> syn-ack seems like ubun is superior to windows
[02:54] <syn-ack> Freeaqingme, for the most part
[02:54] <Balsaq> i have ubun xubun and linux mint and puippy now...newbie love it
[02:54] <philh> Darksoul_, every time what?
[02:54] <Darksoul_> yes, I want to be asked for pwd
[02:54] <b0w> Darksoul_: system > admin > login screen
[02:54] <syn-ack> Freeaqingme, Im not saying that it doesnt need it ever but it more depends on which FS you're running
[02:54] <Darksoul_> no when using sudo
[02:54] <Darksoul_> it remembers pwd for 15 minutes
[02:54] <syn-ack> XFS actually needs to be defragged quite a bit
[02:55] <lifestream> Hi, the people who were helping me about installing ubuntu w/o CD.  I forgot about my ipod. It's 4gb. If I install it there, will it delete all my music? It doesn't ask to format.
[02:55] <Darksoul_> but I want to be asked everytime
[02:55] <shane2peru> If you upgrade to 9.10, is it true that you stay with grub0.9x ?
[02:55] <b0w> Darksoul_: system > admin > login screen > just unselect the login automatically option
[02:55] <b0w> shane2peru: yes
[02:56] <b0w> shane2peru: you have to make a clean install to have the grub2
[02:56] <shane2peru> b0w: great, thanks!  and you can upgrade via the alternate disk right?
[02:56] <Tetracomm> Thank you, I will try that wrgb.
[02:56] <Darksoul_> yes, but what I want is, ei. if I use synaptic to install a program it ask for my pwd, but if I close and open it again it won't ask for my pwd again
[02:56] <philh> i never found defragging terribly helpful when i used windows and ntfs, certainly the power users who defrag weekly using special defraggers are just wearing their discs out, linux filesystems are generally designed to require less defragging
[02:56] <b0w> shane2peru: you got it :)
[02:57] <spartan7> How do I find a broken package?
[02:57] <Darksoul_> so what I want is to change the time that ubuntu keeps my pwd
[02:57] <Grelmy> Question: Which bear is best?
[02:57] <b0w> Darksoul_: trust me, thats better than typing your password every 2 minutes when u are installing packages
[02:57] <Darksoul_> from 15 minutes to 0
[02:57] <Darksoul_> is it?
[02:57] <shane2peru> b0w: good deal, going to download the alternate, installed 9.10 (fresh install) and grub2 rebelled and refused to load, really quite frustrating.
[02:57] <rictec> Grelmy, the still full ;)
[02:57] <shane2peru> b0w: had to re-install juanty
[02:57] <dublued2> I got rid of pulseaudio and restarted the system.  my volume icon is gone from the tray and i'm unable to add one to the panel because it's not in the list.  when i go to system>preferences>sound.  it just says "waiting for sound system to respond"
[02:57] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/change-gksudo-timeout/
[02:57] <philh> spartan7, run synaptic, look for the filters
[02:58] <Grelmy> rictec: Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
[02:58] <philh> there should be a broken filter
[02:58] <Darksoul_> another thing , I installed xubuntu along ubuntu but when I try to login to xubuntu it sends me back to the loging screen
[02:58] <Balsaq> when one of you speaks to me, i cannot hear a ping?do i need to enable something?
[02:58] <b0w> shane2peru: did you try the live cd karmic before installing?
[02:59] <Darksoul_> I asked a friend and he said that ubuntu and xubuntu can't be on the same disk
[02:59] <KB1JWQ> Balsaq: For which client?
[02:59] <Balsaq> xchat
[02:59] <Darksoul_> it's that true
[02:59] <zechs> how does one go about going from 9.10 to 9.04?
[02:59] <b0w> balsaq: check out preferences im not sure if xchat have that option
[02:59] <rictec> Grelmy i m a vampirelol
[02:59] <airforceguy> Any thoughts on windows 7? im thinking of switching for a while ....
[02:59] <KB1JWQ> zechs: Recover from backup
[02:59] <shane2peru> b0w: yes, the livecd worked great, and if the machine was 'restarted' it rebooted, however if it was shut off, it wouldn't start cold.
[02:59] <Balsaq> i dont think it does
[02:59] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, how did u install xubuntu?
[02:59] <Ripp> Is setting up multiple NICs easy with ubuntu, especially if one of them is USB based?
[02:59] <b0w> Darksoul_: false, you can have both on a partitioned disk
[02:59] <Grelmy> Darksoul_: no, there are multiple ways of setting them up together
[02:59] <spartan7> Thank u
[03:00] <momoru> My father downloaded the ISO of Karmic and made a bootable USB drive with it.  But this computer doesn't want to recognize it as bootable for some reason.  Is there any way to get the install process started from within linux?
[03:00] <shane2peru> b0w: grub that is, wouldn't even load, when the machine was cold started, a reboot, loaded fine
[03:00] <Darksoul_> I downloaded ubuntu and xubuntu , made 2 partitions and installed ubuntu in one and xubuntu on the second
[03:00] <b0w> shane2peru: when i first installed 9.10 i got some problems too, but i did it again and it worked great
[03:00] <Balsaq> bummer i downloaded a chat client with no flippin ping?
[03:00] <Darksoul_> with a 4.5gigs of swap
[03:00] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, that's way too complicated...
[03:00] <Grelmy> Ripp: well, it easily detects both network cards on my laoptop, no problem (wired and wireless)
[03:00] <Ripp> excellent
[03:00] <shane2peru> b0w: nope, this was the second install, I was helping a friend he did the first install, and rebooted, worked, shut off and then turned it on, and nothing
[03:00] <Ripp> i'll buy one tomorrow and give it a shot
[03:01] <Grelmy> Ripp: a usb wireless card?
[03:01] <Ripp> so i have a built in ethernet card in my laptop
[03:01] <Ripp> then want another usb ethernet card
[03:01] <nuvan> unable to get wireless working in 9.10.  lshw says the interface is unclaimed.  some messages from dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309070/
[03:01] <Darksoul_> I installed ubuntu firts and then after it finished i installed xubuntu to the second partition but I can't login to xubuntu
[03:01] <avash> KB1JWQ: hi
[03:01] <shane2peru> b0w: ditto was my experience on his box, poor fellow, really liked the look of koala too, but had to go with Jaunty to get it up and running for the time being.
[03:01] <avash> KB1JWQ: wont i get the voice in defocus again?
[03:02] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, it doesn't work that way
[03:02] <Darksoul_> it doesn't ?
[03:02] <b0w> shane2peru: its weird since its a clean install and it works for the first time, myabe something wrong with the hardware, theres and issue about that on launchpad though
[03:02] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, just install xubuntu-desktop from synaptic
[03:02] <Darksoul_> so that means ubu and xubu can't co-exist on the same drive ?
[03:02] <Grelmy> Ripp: when buying a new piece of hardware, it might be wise to google the ubuntuforums for any mention of that NIC model and brand... in case someone mentions that it works great or there is a problem
[03:03] <rictec> people be nice i m of today
[03:03] <FearMoth> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an old laptop. When netbook-launcher tries to run, it segfaults with this error in dmesg: segfault at 404 ip 004a5326 sp bff7778c error 4 in libGL.so ... does anyone know what this could be from?
[03:03] <shane2peru> b0w: it was previously running jaunty great, and installed jaunty great, and ran fine with that, both with reboot and cold boot
[03:03] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, then when login from gdm, choose xfce instead of gnome for the session
[03:03] <b0w> Darksoul_: when you start your pc hold <shift> that should give you a grub prompt, just select Xubuntu
[03:03] <Darksoul_> the reason I did it was because I wanted to try xubuntu , since I have always used ubuntu
[03:03] <Ripp> Grelmy: awesome, will do!
[03:04] <shane2peru> b0w: I think I will upgrade him via alt-disk, but make a backup first for simple restore.
[03:04] <rjb> hi i think i made something work now when i try to use sudo system says "user" is not in the sudoers file what can i do?
[03:04] <Darksoul_> and din't want to mix my ubuntu with another windows manager on top of ubuntu
[03:04] <b0w> shane2peru: yeah thats a good idea
[03:04] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, xubuntu is just ubuntu with xfce instead gnome as DE
[03:04] <b0w> shane2peru: good luck bro :)
[03:04] <shane2peru> b0w: I'm 100% sure it is grub2 not agreeing with his hardware
[03:04] <joshua___> I really am thinking about turning the root account back on.
[03:04] <shane2peru> b0w: thanks
[03:04] <Darksoul_> so they have the same applications ?
[03:04] <KB1JWQ> !ot | Avash
[03:05] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, some are the same, some are different
[03:05] <Darksoul_> but if I install xubuntu, it won't uninstall any of my ubuntu apps?
[03:05] <joshua___> Darksoul, I doubt it
[03:05] <Darksoul_> ok
[03:05] <rjb> what can i do system says says "user" is not in the sudoers file?
[03:05] <Darksoul_> I will give it try
[03:05] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, but if you install xubuntu-desktop, it will install all the apps for xubuntu default install
[03:05] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, it won't
[03:06] <Darksoul_> but it won't uninstall any gnome apps from my default ubuntu
[03:06] <Yaya> whats up guys!?
[03:06] <TuTUXG> Darksoul_, no
[03:06] <Darksoul_> ok
[03:06] <Grelmy> Darksoul, you don't even need to install Xubuntu... just go into synaptic and install the package "xubuntu-desktop"
[03:06] <Darksoul_> will try right now
[03:06] <joshua___> what breaks If I turn off sudo and switch to logging on as root for maintenance?
[03:06] <Darksoul_> ok
[03:06] <Yaya> Can anyone help me out with some Internet problems?
[03:06] <momoru> My father downloaded the ISO of Karmic and made a bootable USB drive with it.  But this computer doesn't want to recognize it as bootable for some reason.  Is there any way to get the install process started from within linux?
[03:07] <KB1JWQ> !anyone | Yaya
[03:07] <Xcell> wb5udi
[03:07] <TrueSongMedia> So, why does the new version of GNOME use Empathy IM instead of Pidgin?
[03:07] <Billiard> joshua___: if you disable sudo, im guessing many of the items on the menus wont work correctly, such as synaptic
[03:07] <joshua___> momoru, Try copying the kernel and initrd to the hard disk and setting it up as bootable
[03:07] <Xcell> qsl?
[03:07] <Grelmy> momoru: try something like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992426
[03:08] <lifestream> I'm sick of seeing all these Joined/Left messages. How do I turn these off in Empathy?
[03:08] <TrueSongMedia> oops wrong channel
[03:08] <TrueSongMedia> sorry
[03:08] <Darksoul_> be back later I will try xubuntu desktop
[03:08] <xtyper> i cant install ubuntu , in the install i get error (grub bootloader)
[03:08] <Darksoul_> :)
[03:08] <BattlePope> I came in here expecting to report GRUB2 not working. GRUB2 is working. Praise be.
[03:08] <joshua___> :(
[03:08] <Yaya> Firefox seems to be really slow for me! Since i switch over from xp it went from like 5 seconds to load espn to about 30~ on 9.10
[03:08] <Yaya> anyone know how to fix this?
[03:08] <momoru> lifestream, it's different for every IRC client
[03:09] <lifestream> momoru: I know silly ;P I don't see the option in Empathy, so I thought I'd ask
[03:09] <joshua___> I'm still on the Jaunty package for X even though everything else is karmic
[03:09] <TonyTheTiger> hello, can someone (anyone) please help me fix my laptop, it cannot connect to anything, not with eth0 nor with wifi. Please help, been struggling with this for days.
[03:09] <btakita> jbuncher: Hmm. I installed 9.04 and have the same issue. Maybe its a bios issue.
[03:09] <joshua___> my error report is still marked as incomplete
[03:09] <TuTUXG> Yaya, it could happen, firefox on linux is not that fast unfortunately
[03:09] <SuperMiguel> how can i play wmv files in ubuntu? i try to install vld and nothing, install vmplayer and nothing :( any ideas?
[03:09] <mordof> is it possible to get a usb game controller working in the free virtualbox?  i've been searching but it seems there's some issues with it, or possibly it just isn't offered in the free version - not sure
[03:10] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm having trouble installing 9.10. When I get to the step where I have to enter a username and password, I can't enter any text for some reason.
[03:10] <joshua___> I've got an unsupported video card that works if you force VESA
[03:10] <Yaya> TuTXG: Do you know if there is a way to fix this?
[03:10] <veggteppe> SuperMiguel: Vlc should work fine on it. Or get the codecs for it.
[03:10] <lifestream> Yaya:  Maybe uninstall Firefox, and install it from the Mozilla Firefox website instead. Less bloat.
[03:10] <rjb> what can i do i have message "says "user" is not in the sudoers file"??
[03:10] <scott_ino2> mordof, i thought virtualbox was free??
[03:10] <resno1> when i did the upgrade, it seems it complete correctly, is it worth it to wait or reinstall?
[03:10] <Yaya> good idea lifestream, i'll give tha ta try
[03:10] <SuperMiguel> veggteppe, i get this error: VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2"
[03:10] <syn-ack> scott_ino2, it is
[03:10] <Billiard> rjb: this is a new user you added?
[03:10] <veggteppe> SuperMiguel: Sec.
[03:10] <scott_ino2> they have a paid version?
[03:10] <lifestream> scott_ino2:  There's OS version and Sun version, if you want free, then install virtualbox-ose
[03:11] <TonyTheTiger> ubuntu 9.10, cant connect to network wired or wifi, please help.
[03:11] <kosmic> since when cant mplayer keep volume setting inbetween tracks in 91p
[03:11] <kosmic> fix this
[03:11] <rjb> Billiard: no, it's my default user
[03:11] <r00to323> SuperMiguel, its only Windows Media Player will play MSS2
[03:11] <scott_ino2> lifestream, ah gotcha
[03:11] <TrueSongMedia> what's the difference lifestream ?
[03:11] <mordof> i've got virtualbox-ose, and was wondering about usb support
[03:11] <lifestream> scott_ino2: Free as in Freedom, not as Caching.
[03:11] <kosmic> why does every new version of ubuntu screw with sound
[03:11] <Billiard> rjb: run the command groups
[03:11] <olivers> hello, is from brazil
[03:11] <mordof> it's greyed out and doesn't recognize my game controller
[03:11] <jtz> move to debion after a yr with this then gentoo the worlds os
[03:11] <SuperMiguel> r00to323, no linux app for it?
[03:11] <kosmic> mordof, its in the settings. try #vbox
[03:11] <Yaya> mordof: virtualbox.org, download the newest version.
[03:11] <lifestream> olivers join #ubuntu-br :)
[03:11] <rjb> Billiard: all my groups are gone
[03:12] <Billiard> rjb: ok, thats your problem then
[03:12] <olivers> ok , thank you lifestream
[03:12] <Grelmy> lifestream: using Empathy, wait until someone joins or quits, then right click the chat area and choose "clear"
[03:12] <veggteppe> Supermiguel: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-April/076493.html Explains what to do.
[03:12] <rjb> Billiard: what can i do to get back?
[03:12] <Billiard> rjb: you need to be in the admin group to use sudo
[03:12] <mordof> Yaya: that version is better than the one in the repos?
[03:12] <r00to323> SuperMiguel, convert it to avi?
[03:12] <Grelmy> lifestream: repeat the process for each join/quit
[03:12] <scott_ino2> lifestream, still more free than vmware
[03:12] <TonyTheTiger> cant connect to internet with ethernet wire or wifi!
[03:12] <scott_ino2> if that makes any sense
[03:12] <Billiard> rjb: you will have to choose the recovery option from the grub menu if you dont have another admin user
[03:12] <rjb> Billiard: how can i come back to admin group?
[03:13] <rjb> Billiard: how can i do that?
[03:13] <Billiard> rjb: just told you
[03:13] <TonyTheTiger> please can someone help me...
[03:13] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: why can't you connect?
[03:13] <DeaD_LocK> Role models rock xD
[03:13] <Billiard> rjb: then the command `usermod -aG admin yourusername`
[03:13] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy i dont know. it just doesnt work.
[03:14] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy this is a fresh install btw.
[03:14] <Flannel> Billiard, rjb: no, that won't work.  Just use adduser username admin
[03:14] <resno1> should reinstall my os, or try repairing after a upgrade gone wrong?
[03:14] <obiwan_> hi, please where could i get the source code for ubuntu?
[03:14] <syn-ack> good evening Flannel
[03:14] <Billiard> Flannel: how will it not work, i have done it b4 works fine
[03:14] <obiwan_> i want to compile all my ubuntu with the defaults, just to make it faster
[03:14] <veggteppe> resno1: if you have something importaint on your box, try repair. if not, reinstall:)
[03:15] <syn-ack> obiwan_, um, what?
[03:15] <rjb> Flannel: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[03:15] <Flannel> Billiard: useradd -G group -a username, combining the a and G can turn problematic
[03:15] <syn-ack> rjb, use sudo
[03:15] <Flannel> rjb: Prefix it with sudo
[03:15] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: was it working in an earlier version?
[03:15] <rjb> Flannel: that is my problem, can't use sudo
[03:15] <Flannel> Billiard: But again, it's easier and safer to just use adduser
[03:15] <rjb> Flannel: i am out of admin group
[03:15] <Billiard> rjb: you need to choose recovery from your grub menu
[03:15] <resno1> veggteppe: it seems the upgrade was applied half wise. touch pad broken, sound gone and some graphics updates while others not
[03:16] <Flannel> rjb: Gotcha.  You'll need to go to the recovery console from GRUB, then do it
[03:16] <rjb> ok i will do what Billiard says
[03:16] <veggteppe> resno1: Well, i personally would just reinstall everything(since i got a extern drive with i got all on). But if you want to try repair, go for it.
[03:16] <TonyTheTiger> noone? because without any method to access internet its useless :(
[03:16] <Billiard> Flannel: i dont see how -a and -G is problematic   -a is ment for -G
[03:16] <doc-saintly> Are the windows 7 / samba issues only with ubuntu 9.10 or is it all samba?
[03:17] <obiwan_> syn-ack: hi , some guys told me that compiling the system for my own  system would run better, so i thought i'll just pick the default source (cause i still duno how to tweak the source) and i'll compile it, i want to get the exact same working default setup canonical used to compile ubuntu, but  in source so i can compile it
[03:17] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: Did you check if there are proprietary drivers for it in System>administartion>HardwareDrivers ?
[03:17] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy i think there may be, with the live usb it said there were, but after the install none seem to show up.
[03:18] <Billiard> doc-saintly: i dont have any issues with samba and win7
[03:18] <resno1> veggteppe: i imagine i should backup my windows install also right? just in case.
[03:18] <rjb> Billiard: do I have to hit esc while booting to enter recovery mode?
[03:18] <TonyTheTiger> i really like ubuntu but this major hurdle is really holding me back.
[03:18] <veggteppe> resno1: Allways nice to have a backup.
[03:18] <Billiard> rjb: you may depending on the settings of your grub
[03:18] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: Try going to System>>administration>>SofwareSources, and make sure to check "proprietary drivers" source and "commmunity-maintainted" source
[03:19] <obiwan_> please can anybody answer me?
[03:19] <doc-saintly> Billiard: have you tried to copy a large number of files?
[03:19] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy ok, i will try that. cheers.
[03:19] <obiwan_> i just want to know where to download the default source code canonical used to compile karmic koala, to compile it myself so i can boost up its speed on my cpu
[03:19] <doc-saintly> Billiard: i'm unable to map it as a drive, and i can't copy large numbers of files (over 1000)
[03:19] <Billiard> doc-saintly: no, but i would assume it works fine, i havent had any problems with large single files
[03:20] <doc-saintly> Billiard: it's not the size, it's the quantity. i know there's a bug report in for it already
[03:20] <Billiard> doc-saintly: samba server or samba client?
[03:20] <doc-saintly> but yea, i ran into all kinds of samba issues once i upgraded to KK
[03:20] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy the restricted and community boxes are both ticked.
[03:20] <obiwan_> in the ubuntu web i just find the binaries, i want the source
[03:20] <doc-saintly> Billiard: samba server i believe
[03:20] <doc-saintly> Billiard: the report specifically stated win 7 as the client
[03:20] <kosmic> i killed fireox with SIGHUP
[03:20] <freaklyweirdo> hi guys, does anybody know where can i find documentations about using linux by terminal codes? eg. mount, ls etc?!
[03:20] <kosmic> damnn
[03:20] <kosmic> thought it would pause the fucker
[03:20] <Billiard> doc-saintly: i have copied large amounts of files with win7 client and samba server in karmic works well
[03:21] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: OK, in Synaptic, "reload" the package list now
[03:21] <will1> excuse me!
[03:21] <philh> freaklyweirdo, type man before any of those commands
[03:21] <dublued2> i got rid of pulse audio and now am using alsa.  but the audio icon is gone from the top panel and i'm unable to add it.  any advice?
[03:21] <TonyTheTiger> Grelmy the restricted and community boxes are both ticked.
[03:21] <veggteppe> freaklyweirdo: You want somewhat a pocket guide or?
[03:21] <will1> I just installed 9.10, installed nvidia drivers, and set up dual monitors. And now I have no taskbars. :(
[03:21] <TonyTheTiger> sorry i mean they are already ticked and i havent changed anything Grelmy (hit the up button by accident)
[03:21] <will1> any ideas?
[03:22] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: Yeah, after ticking the boxes go into synaptic and click the "reload" icon
[03:22] <freaklyweirdo> veggteppe: kinda... but it has to work for any distro.
[03:22] <freaklyweirdo> veggteppe: a generic guide perhaps
[03:22] <philh> dublued2, no idea, sorry, i'm still on 9.04, and after configuring gstreamer sinks in System > Preferences > Sound it worked ok
[03:22] <obiwan_> please, anybody must know where the karmic source is, i just asking the default canonical used, to compile it myself
[03:22] <will1> no list of tasks, no launching of programs... only one of the monitors can have windows dragged onto it, the other can take the cursor but nothing else.
[03:22] <thedude42> will1, double check your resolution, your task bars may come back if you move the mouse to the top or bottom of the screen
[03:22] <veggteppe> freaklyweirdo: If you learn ubuntu, then go to fedora for examples, some terminal commands are changed. so hard to find a generic guide that contains everything for everything
[03:23] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: oh ahah, i forgot, reloading the list needs internet access
[03:23] <Billiard> dublued2: i think i had to install some kind of gnome alsa package to have an icon for sound with alsa
[03:23] <w30> obiwan_, Do you just want to modify the kernel config and then recompile the kernel or do you want to actually modify the kernel?
[03:23] <will1> thedude42: I believe that the second monitor might have the taskbars, but I see only blackness and a cursor.. if I move a file from the desktop to the the black monitor, it disappears.
[03:23] <veggteppe> freaklyweirdo: but i would recommend just learning about ubuntu, its easyer to learn other distros aswell then. (www.ubuntupocketguide) a great free ebook
[03:23] <nixed> Hi. Anyone know why I would need to enter my password every time I try to open a window for my non-Linux partitions?
[03:23] <basix> wtf is this: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/11/03/2211231/Some-Early-Adopters-Stung-By-Ubuntus-Karmic-Koala ?? They cant even proof read their article and DONT fix errors after being pointed out.
[03:24] <freaklyweirdo> veggteppe: i wanna have  more contact with my machine.
[03:24] <heoa> how can I find a path for .mplayer/codecs.conf ?
[03:24] <kosmic> basix, they are right,. version kkk is horrible
[03:24] <will1> hmmm
[03:24] <TonyTheTiger> My laptop cant connect with wired ethernet or wifi to the internet. Please help anyone.
[03:24] <kosmic> tonythetiger, how are you here
[03:24] <w30> obiwan_, the Ubuntu kernel source is in the Synaptic repositories
[03:24] <doc-saintly> basix: since when were people who did news for a living concerned with the authenticity of their statements?
[03:24] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: My last idea is to check out what this guy tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304900
[03:24] <DeaD_LocK> Bored :(
[03:25] <freaklyweirdo> veggteppe: i have some notion about linux, but i wanna fill out my knowledge's wall with more bricks
[03:25] <obiwan_> w30: but the whole w30?
[03:25] <ziggy> whats a good Remote Desktop for windows to connect to Linux ?????
[03:25] <obiwan_> w30: i want the whole ubuntu, i mean kernel, gdm and all of it
[03:25] <veggteppe> freaklyweirdo: Gonna see what i can find for you.
[03:25] <bradland> ziggy: RealVNC
[03:26] <bradland> ziggy: you can skip the form, just click the submit button and it will let you through
[03:27] <w30> obiwan_, You want the source iso then? That should be on Ubuntu.com as a download.
[03:27] <ziggy>  RealVNC ok thanks
[03:27] <ravic> how do i check which version of ubuntu am I on?
[03:27] <jure> how do i map a key to launch a custom command in gnome
[03:27] <Billiard> ravic: lsb_release -a
[03:27] <freaklyweirdo> alt + f2
[03:28] <xTheGoat121x> I just noticed that all the packages on my system are listed as manually installed.
[03:28] <w30> ravic, at a terminal type "cat /etc/issue"
[03:28] <jure> freaklyweirdo, that's not what i want
[03:28] <Scott57Newguy> Everyone:im a nwe linux user, i can't get the desktop cube to actually shower my desktop, it ONLY shower a white cube on a black background..... so whenever i go there, i have to reboot my computer to get back to regular desktop,...... SOMONE please help me... it'd be appreciated
[03:28] <w30> ravic, thats the quick way
[03:29] <ziggy> how do i use it
[03:29] <breauxlg> hello?
[03:29] <Scott57Newguy> ???
[03:29] <Scott57Newguy> any advice from nebody
[03:29] <obiwan_> w30: yeah but where i duno w30
[03:30] <obiwan_> w30: i told i just find the binaries
[03:30] <dublued2> Billiard:  i installed the gnome alsa gui, but that's a separate application and doesn't provide an icon
[03:30] <Grelmy> obiwan_: here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release/source/
[03:30] <obiwan_> w30: the 64, and 32, just that , not the soruce
[03:30] <obiwan_> thanks Grelmy !
[03:30] <b0w> Scott57Newguy: cant understand what you said
[03:30] <obiwan_> hey , one more question
[03:30] <w30> ravic, also <top panel><System><System Monitor>
[03:30] <ziggy> whats a RPM for linux ???
[03:30] <LinkLonk> obiwan_: Greetings master!
[03:30] <obiwan_> to compile it, i just need to open it, and make right?
[03:30] <ziggy> format
[03:30] <philh> ziggy, it's a package for a different linux distribution
[03:30] <LinkLonk> :)
[03:30] <b0w> ziggy: redhat package manager
[03:31] <obiwan_> hi LinkLonk ! how  do you do my little padawan :)
[03:31] <breauxlg> I have an ubuntu 8.04 lts server that I set up a couple of months ago and now that it's been working well for a while, I ordered a new server (I had it on an old server to try it out.) What is the easiest way to migrate to the new hardware? I have several sites running on the 8.04 and would like to have minimal downtime.
[03:31] <Grelmy> ziggy: Just like a "deb" is a package for ubuntu, an RPM is a package for Suse or Redhat linux
[03:31] <DeaD_LocK> a 32bit system can handle how much ram ?
[03:31] <c0ld> rictec
[03:31] <LinkLonk> obiwan_: My back is padded, my videos are loaded. I feel great! :)
[03:32] <obiwan_> wow, nice to hear from you :-) take care and may the force be with you my friend
[03:32] <Blank__> depends on whether it's using PAE or not, DeaD_LocK
[03:32] <SeaPhor> DeaD_LocK, about 3.4 gb
Dam means i'm wasting 3gb bummer
[03:32] <TonyTheTiger> hi guys how can i do this command in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:32] <TonyTheTiger> sudo sed 's/, interface-mtu//' /etc/dhcpd3/dhclient.conf
[03:32] <gsevil>  I have problem with vpnc, it has very high CPU load after a few hours
[03:33] <Blank__> SeaPhor, surely PAE can up the ante?
Okay thanks :)
[03:33] <obiwan_> Grelmy:  pleae could you answer? i want to know how to compile it, it's my first time compiling a os
[03:33] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: you type commands into Applications>>Accessories.Terminal
[03:33] <c0ld> Since Im having a problem with wireless card I want to downgrade to a older version of Ubuntu for my laptop which version do you recommend..
[03:33] <obiwan_> Grelmy: should i run make? or gcc? with any flag¿ gcc -a or gcc-bclksjdlfkjs i duno please illustrate me
[03:34] <SeaPhor> Blank__, also depends on how much the MB supports, and not sure on the PAE suport, i need to research that ;-)
[03:34] <tc111> c0ld: have you tried 'sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source'
[03:34] <veggteppe> c0ld: Depends on your computer spec to be honest. If you have ati and broadcom wireless, id recommend 8.04
[03:34] <c0ld> yes
[03:34] <TonyTheTiger> yes i know Grelmy however that command states the file mentioned doesnt exists so i am asking how i would do that command in 9.10.
[03:34] <Blank__> SeaPhor, right you are
[03:34] <SeaPhor> Blank__, but never heard anything about it before
[03:34] <c0ld> I have a Atheros
[03:34] <LinkLonk> Well im sorry grasshopper. "Thats Grand Master you bafoon" Gas passer, Bass hasser, whats the difference :)
[03:34] <TonyTheTiger> SeaPhor do you have a channel of your own?
[03:35] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, yes, you were there before
[03:35] <ziggy> i'm having problems setting up VNC could someone help me please
[03:35] <marco> Hi. cheese application detects my webcam but theres is no image. the screen is green. is there a solution?
[03:35] <TonyTheTiger> SeaPhor well i re-installed ubuntu today. no dice :(
[03:35] <c0ld> atheros chipset internal wireless card
[03:35] <philh> obiwan_, are you serious?
[03:36] <Grelmy> obiwan_: hmm wow that's an interesting plan
[03:36] <veggteppe> c0ld: I personally love 9.04 tho. But it's ur choise=) i havent had any problems with 9.04. Alltho my mate had, so he downgraded to 8.04 and no issues for him there
[03:36] <ravic> w30, ravic, also <top panel><System><System Monitor>
[03:36] <ravic> unclear can u pl. eloborate?
[03:36] <dcsst28> hello, i have a problem, and i was wondering if someone could help
[03:37] <ziggy> umm i downloaded VNC thro the website and i can't Get it loaded or installed i installed the one thro the add and remove and that one is for just connecting to other people CAN SOME ONE PLEASE point me in the right direction
[03:37] <c0ld> ok
[03:37] <veggteppe> dcsst28: Say your problem. Dont just ask for help.
[03:37] <c0ld> I suppose Ill start with 9.04
[03:37] <c0ld> and move on down until the problem is non-existant
[03:37] <philh> ziggy, don't download from a website, just use the software centre
[03:37] <veggteppe> c0ld: u tried 9.10 ? or u having 9.10 now?
[03:37] <philh> vnc is bound to be in there
[03:37] <c0ld> Im using 9.10 karmic
[03:37] <dkulchenko> Hi all! I'm running Jaunty, and I've noticed that, on the same computer, when I'm booted into Ubuntu, my download speed is ~7mbps, but on the same machine, in Windows 7/XP, the download speed is ~20mbps (this is on wifi). Why is this so?
[03:38] <LinkLonk> I Demand that "Married with Children" gets some golden globe awards and such.
[03:38] <jure> nevermind, got it
[03:38] <Grelmy> obiwan_: you realize that would probably take you like 2 weeks to compile?
[03:38] <mikeru> what is the difference between & and && in shell scripts?
[03:38] <c0ld> and it gives the error when I type in sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:38] <dcsst28> i've tried installing both the 9.10 alternate and server cds.  when it gets to the end, it tried to write grub to the master boot record, but it fails every time.  lilo fails, as well.  i have to finish the install without a bootloader, and then i'm stuck.
[03:38] <c0ld> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132
[03:38] <obiwan_> Grelmy: really?
[03:38] <cfedde> is there a way to reset the application choices in ubuntu netbook remix netbook-launcher?
[03:38] <obiwan_> Grelmy: lool haha
[03:38] <philh> dkulchenko, maybe the wireless card isn't running at full power
[03:38] <veggteppe> c0ld: hmm, okay. Try to downgrade to 9.04, if that dont work, go 8.04
[03:39] <dkulchenko> philh: how can i check this?
[03:39] <obiwan_> philh: yeah i was but he just told me it'd take 2 weeks xd
[03:39] <Blank__> dcsst28, only two things i can think of is "virus protection" in the bios, or damaged MBR
[03:39] <veggteppe> c0ld: 8.04 is lts so i think its abit more "stable" then the other ones.
[03:39] <LinkLonk> c0ld: Why are you cold ?
[03:39] <c0ld> yah... I really like 9.10 but it is not working right
[03:39] <marco> How to end a process?
[03:39] <philh> dkulchenko, i have no idea, sorry
[03:39] <ziggy> ok i downloaded it from the the software centre Philh and all i can do with it is connect to other people with VNC it doesn't give me the option for others to connect to my plat form thro remote desktop anysuggestions
[03:39] <dkulchenko> philh: no problem. i'll look into it
[03:39] <obiwan_> Grelmy: so karmic koala has been 2 weeks compiling before its release Grelmy ?
[03:40] <Billiard> mikeru: && runs the 2nd command if the 1st command returns 0, & runs the 2nd command right away
[03:40] <Grelmy> obiwan_: Ah but I think they have more than 1 computer working on it.
[03:40] <veggteppe> marco: ps to list processes, kill "id" . Or "System" "Preferences" "System monitor"
[03:40] <dcsst28> it has happened on more than one machine.  i've only tried it on machines with sata drives.  could that be a problem?  if so, wouldn't they have thought of that when they developed it?
[03:40] <philh> ziggy, go to System > Preferences > Remote desktop
[03:40] <mikeru> Billiard: interesting... but confusing
[03:40] <marco> thabks veggteppe
[03:40] <philh> ziggy, i don't think you even need to install anything for that
[03:40] <s0n1c> Hey everyone. I just updated to 9.10, but my touchpad on my laptop doesn't work
[03:40] <obiwan_> Grelmy: heh i can have 4 laptops for one morning, how would it take then?
[03:40] <jjwdesign> Anyone ever try using a HP Color LaserJet 1600 with Ubuntu?
[03:40] <jj_galvez> what keyboard input method should I pick "none" "ibus" or "scim", I'm only using english
[03:40] <obiwan_> Grelmy: all of thema re core 2 duo with at least 1 gig, some of them 4 gigs
[03:41] <Grelmy> obiwan_: If you want to compile your whole linux distribution, try Gentoo Linux... that's what it's for...
[03:41] <philh> obiwan_, look into linux from scratch or maybe gentoo if you like the idea of compiling stuff for no good reason
[03:41] <mikeru> can apt-get autoremove delete something I'm actually using?
[03:41] <obiwan_> Grelmy: but i heard to compile gentoo it's way too hard, there are 6 stages i think, and you have to run commands in between them
[03:41] <LinkLonk> obiwan_: What do you wish to compile ?
[03:42] <obiwan_> Grelmy: i just  know to run 'make' or 'gcc makefile'
[03:42] <mikeru> like someprogram built from source that uses a package listed in stuff to remove?
[03:42] <w30> obiwan_, http://archive.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <philh> obiwan_, why do you want to compile an entire linux distro if you find things too complicated?
[03:42] <obiwan_> LinkLonk: ubuntu heheh
[03:42] <c0ld> what about Jaunty?
[03:42] <veggteppe> mikeru: autoremove should only remove stuff that the thing you just removed doesnt need anymore.
[03:42] <HJanfield> I have a bad entry in /etc/fstab which points to a hard drive which was removed (and also subsequently replaced with another drive with a different filesystem). The system now won't boot, halts on "mountall", says the drive can't be mounted.
[03:42] <obiwan_> philh: i heard that if you compile it yourself it'll run faster
[03:42] <HJanfield> How can I get in to fix /etc/fstab?
[03:42] <philh> obiwan_, did a gentoo user tell you that?
[03:42] <joshstrobl> getdeb.net needs to throw in some .debs for Ubuntu Karmic Koala
[03:43] <HJanfield> It does offer me a recovery console, but says "read only file system" (can't edit the file)
[03:43] <veggteppe> Hjanfield: cd /etc/fstab ?:P
[03:43] <philh> did he offer to funroll your loops?
[03:43] <obiwan_> philh: nope, in  c channel, i asked them aftear reading it in many sites
[03:43] <DeaD_LocK> how do you change the lock screen in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[03:43] <Grelmy> obiwan_: however difficult Gentoo is to compile, Ubuntu is probably harder... since Gentoo is meant to be comiled, and the package manager does it for you... while Ubuntu was designed to be compiled by the porgrammers
[03:43] <philh> obiwan_, it'll make no appreciable difference to you
[03:43] <obiwan_> philh: they just confirmed me that compiling a source for your exact system will run smoother
[03:44] <veggteppe> Hjanfield: gedit /etc/fstab
[03:44] <LinkLonk> obiwan_: Well, the base LFS system (Console mode if you wish) will take about a day on a regular computer to compile (Core2Duo or so) Xorg,Gtk+,Gnome and some tools will take a few hours longer, perhaps 4.
[03:44] <Ahadiel> obiwan_, In most cases, the difference is negligible.
[03:44] <b0w> obiwan_: how much smoother? you have a core2duo with 2 gb ram i think you will not notice any difference
[03:44] <HJanfield> veggteppe: GUI programs kind of don't work when you are in a recovery console and unable to get into a GUI.
[03:44] <joshstrobl> Dead_Lock> CTRL + ALT + L
[03:44] <obiwan_> ok so then i wn't notice?
[03:45] <philh> obiwan_, correct
[03:45] <veggteppe> Hjanfield: oh, nano /etc/fstab
[03:45] <HJanfield> veggteppe: I repeat: ""read only file system" (can't edit the file)" from the recovery console
[03:45] <johnjohn101> does ubuntu server support virtual machines?
[03:45] <veggteppe> nano aint a gui program :P
No i don't want to lock it i was to change the box thingy where it asks for your password,want to change the theme of it ..... ?
[03:45] <LinkLonk> HJanfield: mount -o remount,rw /
[03:45] <syn-ack> obiwan_, the whole point to running ubuntu is that its package based distro. You will not notice any difference from a "generic" build and an "optimised" don't listen to those Gentoo guys
[03:45] <ayman>  hi all iam already installed ubuntu 9.10 and  remastersys not worken on it any help for that p;z
[03:45] <joshstrobl> john> yes
[03:45] <mikeru> any way to change lock screen key combination?
[03:45] <obiwan_> what a disappointment hehe
[03:45] <mikeru> like, to windows L?
[03:45] <mikeru> meta+L whatever
[03:45] <Tonno> The program GIgolo dont let me mount my disk, he say 'Authentication is required', someone can help me with it?
[03:45] <tc111> c0ld: i like jaunty and will probably leave a couple of my machine on jaunty for a while. Hardy Heron 8.04.3 LTS is very stable. karmic +1 (Lucid Lynx) will also be an LTS release (10.04 LTS) so if you choose to go with the 8.04.3 LTS, you'll only need to wait 6 months for the next LTS release.
[03:46] <Tonno> im using xubuntu
[03:46] <bobbies> so how do I get a service to start on bootup?
[03:46] <Grelmy> obiwan_: I think you would find this recent article interesting. They compared ubuntu with gentoo, and tried 3 different compiler settings on gentoo, and then tested how fast the programs were: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7574/1/
[03:46] <b0w> mikeru: change your password
[03:46] <HJanfield> Now THAT did it! Thank you, LinkLonk.
[03:46] <tech-mike> need microphone amplify help - even with it amped all the way up peeps can hardly hear me through skype !
[03:46] <LinkLonk> HJanfield: Np
[03:46] <mikeru> b0w: ...
[03:46] <ayman> any body help me plz
[03:46] <joshstrobl> john> yes the Ubuntu server supports nearly everything
[03:46] <joshstrobl> after all, its linux
[03:46] <philh> tech-mike, got a micboost option in alsamixer?
[03:47] <Ahadiel> mikeru, System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:47] <obiwan_> Grelmy: but did they compare a downloaded iso with a source compiled one?
[03:47] <tech-mike> philh:  well i went into the sound prefrences from top right corner of desktop ... and amped it up there
[03:47] <mikeru> Ahadiel: thanks!
[03:47] <philh> tech-mike, or on the switches tab of the gnome volume control panel if it's still the same as 9.04
[03:47] <viejotren> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop hp dsv2-1010la. walking around the internet I found that is a SATA controller issue, my question is is there a way to pass "retry pmp=0" as a parameter?
[03:47] <tech-mike> philh:  it helped but only a little
[03:47] <Ahadiel> mikeru, Anytime.
[03:47] <ayman> any help here
[03:47] <obiwan_> Grelmy: i'm not interested in gentoo vs ubuntu, but main release vs self compiled release
[03:48] <philh> tech-mike, is there a preferences button on that volume control window?
[03:48] <Grelmy> obiwan_: in a way, yes, since the ubuntu was downloaded, and the gentoo was source compiled. But there was no scientific control really
[03:48] <mikeru> anyway to use the volume control included with karmic with OSS4
[03:48] <viejotren> is there another way to get rid off "ata1: softreset failed" problem?
[03:48] <mikeru> ?
[03:48] <obiwan_> ok Grelmy thanks i'm looking at it now brb eheh
[03:48] <leafox> ?
[03:48] <marco> I have a webcam lifecam from microsoft, i used cheese app to use it but the display is all green. is there a solution?
[03:48] <tech-mike> philh:  theres a input tab but not another pref button
[03:48] <philh> obiwan_, the time wasted compiling stuff in gentoo doesn't give you a performance boost that makes it worthwhile
[03:48] <mikeru> (pulseaudio sucks on this computer -- OSS4 works soooooo good on this one for some reason...)
[03:49] <obiwan_> philh: i can run it in background that's no problem
[03:49] <palomer> OSS4 > pulseaudio
[03:49] <philh> tech-mike, hmm, they've buggered about with it again
[03:49] <obiwan_> philh: make & hehe
[03:49] <ziggy> ok
[03:49] <ziggy> Thanks for your time Philh
[03:49] <tech-mike> philh:  ya and in skype its showing pulsaudio
[03:49] <Mrpeepers310> is there any way to boot two Ubuntu  based oses off of a usb drive and both of them have persistent changes?
[03:49] <tech-mike> philh:  so do i not have alsa
[03:49] <philh> obiwan_, no, you can't it'll zap your machine's performance for days
[03:49] <dukz> hi guys, how do you fix a bad sig for apt-get?
[03:49] <philh> tech-mike, you have alsa, but pulseaudio is in control of everything
[03:49] <obiwan_> philh: but if it isn't worthwile then i'll keep with the one i got for now, anyway, in the near future i want to do it, just to LEARN how to do a dist compilation
[03:49] <palomer> I used gentoo for years
[03:50] <viejotren> hi, I have a problem whit ata1: softreset failed
[03:50] <tech-mike> philh:  how can i further alsa config ?
[03:50] <obiwan_> philh: didn't know compiling an os would be soooooo slow hehe
[03:50] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, care to come back, I have a new team member that may can help?
[03:50] <viejotren> somedoby has any ideas?
[03:50] <mikeru> palomer+1
[03:50] <obiwan_> palomer: is it as hard as they say?
[03:50] <obiwan_> palomer: i use ubuntu and it's pretty easy
[03:50] <marco> where can I get support for webcam issues?
[03:50] <mikeru> (about oss4)
[03:50] <TooGreatBindy> philh: The fact that you can choose packages could speed up your system and desktop a hundred-fold.
[03:50] <philh> obiwan_, it isn't _that_ slow, but you wont be able to get any use out of the machine while it happens, and compiling ubuntu would be far more complicated than gentoo
[03:51] <Devastator> obiwan_ can i give you an example?
[03:51] <TooGreatBindy> mikeru: oss4, must be microsoft.
[03:51] <obiwan_> ok philh
[03:51] <obiwan_> sure Devastator
[03:51] <Mrpeepers310> is there any way to boot two Ubuntu  based oses off of a usb drive and both of them have persistent changes?
[03:51] <palomer> gentoo isn't hard, but it's annoying
[03:51] <Grelmy> Mrpeepers310: I don't see any reason why not
[03:51] <mikeru> TooGreatBindy: as far as it is open source and it works I'm fine, couldn't care less about it's past.
[03:51] <palomer> and I found debian faster
[03:51] <SeaPhor> marco, have you opened "cheese" to see if it shows there?
[03:51] <viejotren> hi to all I have a problem with ata1: softreset failed
[03:52] <TonyTheTiger> what command can i use to see what drivers are loaded?
[03:52] <viejotren> somebodyu can help me?
[03:52] <philh> tech-mike, alsamixer from the terminal might help
[03:52] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, care to come back, I have a new team member that may can help?
[03:52] <Grelmy> TonyTheTiger: "sudo lshw"
[03:52] <Devastator> obiwan_ dd-wrt is a open-source firmware for linksys routers mostly and has 20gb of source, imagine how much time you will need to compile 20gb of files and transform it in 4mb :P
[03:52] <marco> seaphor, cheese detects my webcam but the screen is completly green
[03:52] <Mrpeepers310> Grelmy: each os uses a casper folder
[03:52] <TonyTheTiger> SeaPhor would love to, unfortunatly i forgot the channel name
[03:52] <exewmt> Just got my karma for helping friends use linux..... Karmic boot cd friend monitor on 1st boot
[03:52] <obiwan_> wow Devastator lol xD
[03:52] <SeaPhor> TonyTheTiger, my nick
[03:52] <exewmt> Fried monitor even
[03:53] <TooGreatBindy> mikeru: LOL, so Microsoft actually made something called "oss4". What a shock!!! :) ...  Except those coding and making Microsoft windows. Those hackers and crackers where apparently good :P
[03:54] <viejotren> is an actual problem grelmy
[03:55] <Devastator> obiwan_ but was just an example, you can't compare, perhaps ubuntu source isn't bigger than dd-wrt
[03:55] <viejotren> I was trying to install
[03:55] <viejotren> on my laptop
[03:55] <marco> anyone knows how to solve problems with webcams?
[03:55] <viejotren> and I got that problem
[03:55] <mikeru> TooGreatBindy: and how's this related to oss4? actually, why did you mentioned microsoft?
[03:55] <obiwan_> hehe Devastator
[03:55] <obiwan_> anyway, 20 gigs it's really big
[03:55] <Blue1> marco: not really no....
[03:55] <obiwan_> my disk is 60 hhaa
[03:55] <rjb> i am member of group xx but i can't open the documents or directories that belongs to that group, what can i do?
[03:56] <Billiard> rjb: what are the pemissions on the directory?   ls -ld directory
[03:56] <Devastator> obiwan_ what some really advanced linux users do is to compile their own distro
[03:56] <TooGreatBindy> mikeru: Government things. Media was confused for a while. Like they so often are. Take the yearly "Influensa" for example. This year its apparenly very dangerous. /Lol
[03:56] <Devastator> compiling one package at the time
[03:56] <obiwan_> hey please one more question, i'd really like to know how to run emacs in terminal, i did sudo apt-get install emacs, but it's graphic, i want the terminal one
[03:56] <rjb> Billiard: drwxrw---- 2 xx xx
[03:56] <jj_galvez> viejotren: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949593 to see if any of these help?
[03:57] <mikeru> TooGreatBindy: =/ I never got sick of influenza, and I live in mexico...
[03:57] <rjb> Billiard: is something wrong?
[03:57] <obiwan_> Devastator: yeah, i read about that i was interested in making my own one, but it's way hard, i don't know aobut system modules, sound modules and all that
[03:57] <Billiard> rjb: how about one of the files you want to read?  ls -l file
[03:57] <turrican_> i want to install ubuntu-alternate cd with lvm and luks. but i have a problem with luks. my partition are 250mb /boot and tail lvm. i create a volume goup and two logical volume groups eg root and swap. than i want crypt with luks, but i can only crypted the root volume. after this step i get the failure i have a unsecure swap partition. if i crypted the swap partition later, than i get a message there are don`t a root partition? mmmh. :
[03:57] <turrican_> ( have somebody a solution?
[03:57] <chromakode> I'd like to bring more attention to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/472301
[03:57] <Devastator> obiwan_ i suggest you to learn how to compile kernel first, it's a big step
[03:57] <obiwan_> Devastator: you just have to do a ls /lib/modules, and you'll see how many modules are there, if i had to choose each one i'd go mad haha
[03:57] <rasstar> is there any way to get the fonts in ubuntu looking like windows 7
[03:58] <Ademan> holy balls gvfs is leaking memory like a sieve....
[03:58] <TooGreatBindy> mikeru: One problem media/government has with that though is that not so many has died as in the "common" infuensa. 3 people have died in Sweden for example (All of them would have died anyhow) /Heart failure/cancer etc.
[03:58] <Billiard> rasstar: get the same fonts and use them??
[03:58] <philh> rasstar, nick the win7 fonts from somewhere?
[03:58] <obiwan_> Devastator: i was told compiling kernel is for kiddies, and that there are much mor eimportant things to do than building kernels, so i left it . Anyway i don't know anything about kernels, i just know it's the os brain
[03:58] <mirc-drifter> poo
[03:58] <TooGreatBindy> Mooh
[03:58] <rasstar> i already installed the fonts but firefox and everything just doesn't look as cris and clear as windows
[03:59] <mikeru> anyway. GDM forces screen resolution to 1280x768 (simulated, actually it is 1280x720). I want the login screen to be 1280x720. I've already set a modeline with 1280x720 and also set it as the preferred mode
[03:59] <philh> obiwan_, compiling entire distros, unless you actually need to, is for kiddies
[03:59] <mikeru> anyway I can change gdm's behavior toward my screen?
[03:59] <doltek> Is there an adobe Creative Suite CS4 clone?
[03:59] <Devastator> obiwan_ i used to compile kernels for myself, that can make system lighter, but it's just one variable :P
[03:59] <obiwan_> philh: not for me, i'd really like to know, i like to know how unix works
[03:59] <obiwan_> philh: but i know i must start on the basycs, and then go for harder things
[04:00] <TooGreatBindy> mikeru: Itll be to you as youre to it, regarding the X-system.
[04:00] <TooGreatBindy> Resolution
[04:00] <philh> obiwan_, indeed, configure and compile the kernel first, like Devastator suggested
[04:00] <Billiard> doltek: there is gimp, for image editing, similar to PS
[04:00] <zenlunatic> obiwan_: read a book
[04:00] <JJman6> when should i use apt-get clean or autoclean what exactly are they for?
[04:00] <Devastator> obiwan_ i don't know yet how to make a good kernel, but a basic one is easy
[04:01] <Teisei> Autoclean removes unneeded package files
[04:01] <philh> doltek, gimp, inkscape, scribus, kompozer, kino, kdenline what else is in CS4?
[04:01] <obiwan_> Devastator: but there's so many options in compiling kernel, i wouldn't know which one to choose in each step, a really really step by step, option by option guide would be awesome , if i find one anyday i may try to compile it
[04:01] <rjb> Billard: -rwxr----- 1 xx xx this one worked fine why?
[04:01] <philh> obiwan_, so why do you think that compiling the whole distro, including kernel, is easier than compiling just the kernel?
[04:02] <obiwan_> zenlunatic: yeah but there are many oens i need to read, the c language, unix, computer architecture, i don't know which to start with
[04:02] <Devastator> obiwan_ if i remember correctly it's: tar -zxvf linux-VERSION-HERE.tar.gz && make menuconfig, then select modules and stuff, save, make dep, make clean, make, make install
[04:02] <Billiard> rjb: it has group read rights
[04:03] <TooGreatBindy> "Watch out for the Hottening" Make you sick it can.
[04:03] <syn-ack> Devastator, depends on if the kernel is compressed or if its just a tarball
[04:03] <Billiard> rjb: to allow the group to read a file use,   chmod g+r file
[04:03] <rjb> Billiard: the another directory too
[04:03] <obiwan_> philh: i thought so philh , cause i didn't want to tweak anything, just download the exact same code canonical used and to type something like make or gcc -someflags ubuntumakefile hehe
[04:03] <philh> obiwan_, but if it were that easy, what would you have learned?
[04:03] <obiwan_> Devastator: yeah but thre are many things to choose from Devastator
[04:04] <igloooinvader> back- so i checked the integrity of the cd and its fine
[04:04] <syn-ack> obiwan_, you're wasting your time
[04:04] <Devastator> syn-ack i think for ubuntu you can use "apt-get install linux-image-...."
[04:04] <igloooinvader> but im still not getting the desktop when i boot up ubuntu 9.10
[04:04] <syn-ack> Devastator, you sure can. you can even just install the source
[04:04] <Devastator> obiwan_ don't you want to know unix? you need to know the devices first, you only know linux if you know devices
[04:04] <obiwan_> Devastator: for example, i read one day that you can choose if the kernel will accept more than 4 gigs by changing an option in the kernel compilation, and there must be hundreds more options, i simply couldn't choose  i'm not an expert
[04:04] <igloooinvader> i got the live cd to work
[04:04] <philh> or just build the source package?
[04:04] <syn-ack> however, obiwan_ is either trolling or he's just wanting to waste his time
[04:04] <TooGreatBindy> obiwan_: Obitubu!
[04:04] <igloooinvader> im using an amd64 processor
[04:05] <igloooinvader> not sure if that helps in solving the problem
[04:05] <DesertEagle> my pidgin won't start, please help
[04:05] <obiwan_> hahh TooGreatBindy :P
[04:05] <TonyTheTiger> hello I have a bcm5751 ethernet interface sudo lshw shows that the driver is tg3 however its not working, please help.
[04:05] <syn-ack> DesertEagle, QUICK DO CPR!
[04:05] <TooGreatBindy> :)
[04:05] <philh> DesertEagle, what happens when you run it from a terminal?
[04:05] <rjb> Billiard: why i can't access the group's directories?
[04:05] <Ademan> DesertEagle: what are you trying to do and what happens instead? are you wanting it to auto-start? or just when you launch it from applications->internet->pidgin?
[04:06] <TooGreatBindy> Hail Baby!!! :)
[04:06] <Schnork> hi everybody. I've got a "little" problen with my computer since the last update : My touchpad doesn't work anymore, and, less important, ubuntu is really slow (slower than windows :( ). Can anyone help me (I've got a laptop Hp compaq presario CQ61)
[04:06] <obiwan_> syn-ack: why you think im wastin my time?
[04:06] <DesertEagle> philh this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309006/
[04:06] <Billiard> rjb: do they have group read set?   chmod g+r dir
[04:06] <Devastator> syn-ack i can't remember all the stuff, is make-kpackage still used? or something like that, to make a .deb from source
[04:06] <rjb> Billiard: yes they have
[04:06] <DesertEagle> Ademan: it segfaults on launch
[04:06] <q0_0p> anyone here can help me out with dhcp server?  i'm connected to the internet with my wifi and my dhcp server is for eth0
[04:06] <q0_0p> when i plug in eth0 it disconnects my wifi
[04:06] <TonyTheTiger>  hello I have a bcm5751 ethernet interface sudo lshw shows that the driver is tg3 however its not working, please help.
[04:06] <DesertEagle> Ademan: "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" more specifically
[04:06] <rjb> Billiard: it says cd: michael/: Permission denied
[04:06] <Devastator> syn-ack has been a while since i don't use linux day by day..
[04:07] <syn-ack> obiwan_, Because, there is a point to using a package based distro.. and you're wanting to go against the grain
[04:07] <Billiard> rjb: show me the permissions
[04:07] <cowbud> dun dun dun
[04:07] <rjb> Billiard: drwxr----- 2 xx xx
[04:07] <obiwan_> syn-ack: i don't really know what a package basd distro mean, don't all the distros work that way? you want something, you get the package and install it
[04:07] <rjb> Billiard: did i miss something?
[04:08] <obiwan_> syn-ack: what distro isn't package based?
[04:08] <JJman6> Redhat
[04:08] <syn-ack> obiwan_, Gentoo
[04:08] <Billiard> rjb: to cd, i think you need execute bit set too,   chmod g+rx dir
[04:08] <syn-ack> Slack
[04:08] <i_is_broke> hey whats 10.4 called?
[04:08] <Devastator> obiwan_ i don't know if philh or syn-ack will agree but to compile a kernel you need to know a lot from your machine, chipset models, manufacturers etc, and not only from your machines, but machines in general
[04:08] <The_reaper489> So does anyone know where i can get A ubuntu that will work with an XO laptop???
[04:08] <syn-ack> Devastator, thats right
[04:08] <obiwan_> syn-ack: but gentoo is also package based isn't it? i read that it has emerge a kind of apt-get to download packages
[04:08] <TooGreatBindy> obiwan_: The code is always packaged.
[04:08] <DesertEagle> oh also, my conky has a weird black bar at the bottom that disappears when i move it, any clues? this started after the upgrade
[04:08] <IdleOne> !10.04 | i_is_broke
[04:09] <syn-ack> if you dont know what youre doing you can break a lot of things
[04:09] <Ademan> DesertEagle: wow, that's not good... pidgin shouldn't be segfaulting...
[04:09] <i_is_broke> IdleOne, thanks
[04:09] <TooGreatBindy> PregnaHoe :)
[04:09] <i_is_broke> couldnt remember
[04:09] <Minor> I am new to ubuntu, just want to know how I can fix my flash in firefox. WHen trying to play a flash game. the screen "flashes" while im playing. It works, just annoying
[04:09] <cronide> salve
[04:09] <cronide> need help
[04:09] <obiwan_> Devastator: that's why i keep away from compiling by now
[04:09] <brocgiddens> quick poll: which do you like better? pidgin or empathy and why?
[04:09] <rjb> Billiard: you are right, sorry and thank you for your help
[04:09] <The_reaper489> Minor: do you have Sun java installed?
[04:09] <Devastator> syn-ack i was scared yesterday, was messing with memory addresses :|
[04:09] <philh> Devastator, for it to be worthwhile, yes, i compiled kernels years ago with little knowledge, and it worked, but i didn't really learn much from it
[04:09] <DesertEagle> Ademan: yeh... thanks to the upgrade :( i've tried removing the settings dir and I purged and resinstalled... still nothing
[04:09] <JJman6> Kopete
[04:09] <Scott57Newguy> Could anyone help me?? im having problems downloading/installing the AVI driver i need...
[04:09] <Grelmy> hahaha are you guys still arguing about compiling??
[04:10] <Grelmy> I was away for like 30 minutes
[04:10] <obiwan_> yeah Grelmy  haha :lol:
[04:10] <Minor> The_reaper489, No just the adobe_flash installer that it prompted me for.
[04:10] <obiwan_> really? 30m?
[04:10] <obiwan_> wow hha
[04:10] <brocgiddens> JJman6, why Kopete? I've never tried it
[04:10] <The_reaper489> Minor: you can fix it simply like this. go to your synaptic package manager
[04:10] <cronide> for msn server i use mercury messenger
[04:10] <The_reaper489> Minor: Search Adobe flash
[04:10] <TonyTheTiger> sudo lshw says network DISABLED, how can i change this?
[04:10] <Scott57Newguy> COULD SOMEONE HELP ME PLZZ... or maybe direct me to a more responsive chat room?
[04:11] <Devastator> philh i know what you mean, you know how to compile and make everything working, but don't know exactly if there's something you don't actually needs
[04:11] <The_reaper489> Minor: reinstall
[04:11] <KitsuneDragon> hello all!
[04:11] <JJman6> brocgiddens: Its KDE based,  (i run Kubuntu)  i like it better than Kopete anyway!  Its got a few features that Pidgin didn't support (at least at the time perhaps tahts different)  such as video chat
[04:11] <kubuntuser> brocgiddens: kopete is for kde. I would use pidgin for ubuntu
[04:11] <philh> Devastator, precisely
[04:11] <KB1JWQ> Scott57Newguy: How about you actually state what your problem is?
[04:11] <cronide> i need help too who can help me!?
[04:11] <TooGreatBindy> cronide: Now, MSN is for the litterally impaired right ?
[04:11] <Billiard> Scott57Newguy: what is your issue
[04:11] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, i'll try to help you
[04:11] <Schnork> hi everybody. I've got a "little" problen with my computer since the last update : My touchpad doesn't work anymore, and, less important, ubuntu is really slow (slower than windows :( ). Can anyone help me (I've got a laptop Hp compaq presario CQ61)
[04:11] <The_reaper489> Minor: synaptic package manager is in System->Administration
[04:11] <Minor> The_reaper489, I have removed and installed it already. It did not work
[04:12] <The_reaper489> Minor: then you are missing a plugin for Mozilla
[04:12] <brocgiddens> kubuntuser, can't you use kde apps in gnome?
[04:12] <iarp> The_reaper489: i've always been told the flashplugin_nonfree works teh best, but it's been years since i used gui on ubuntu and fiddle with flash
[04:12] <Devastator> philh i learn a rule in the beginning of using linux, "don't f*ck with package manager", so don't try to compile things by yourself in distros that aren't for it
[04:12] <Minor> The_reaper489, which plugin?
[04:13] <JJman6> At least you guys can get hte update.  Mine won't update!  It bombs out when DL the last 4 packages
[04:13] <The_reaper489> iarp, minor: you should try that
[04:13] <Scott57Newguy> Im trying to download a proprietary driver i need for my AVI car... (so that i cna use things like Desktop Cube and such) but the issue is it keeps FREEZEING Up (not making an progress) its done this with the system hardware driver, and with EnvyNG... (ive rebooted many times lol) please someone help me
[04:13] <kubuntuser> brocgiddens: you can. However, it takes up much more memory and hd space
[04:13] <The_reaper489> Minor: look at the ones you are missing (the ones not in green) and look at the description
[04:13] <cronide> i tried to install fglrx driver... bad thing. i want restore my open source driver, but right now i can only do it throug the error window at begin, and restarting...and now eth0 doesnt work anymore too
[04:13] <Scott57Newguy> ne body with a possible sollution?
[04:13] <The_reaper489> minor: there should be one that is either an update or a fix
[04:13] <cronide> sorry for my english but i'm in the other side of the ocean :D
[04:13] <brocgiddens> kubuntuser, HD space isn't a major issue but memory?
[04:13] <KB1JWQ> !pm | Scott57Newguy
[04:13] <IdleOne> !ati | Scott57Newguy
[04:13] <The_reaper489> Minor: thats all i can offer for info on flash
[04:14] <AyCarumba> does anyone know how to format hd in ubuntu?
[04:14] <kubuntuser> brocgiddens: It has to load kde libraries
[04:14] <kubuntuser> AyCarumba: look at gpart
[04:14] <philh> Devastator, well, when i started using linux i had a modem, and a slow one at that, not to mention that package management on mandrake was nothing like as useful as apt is, so compiling things was necessary at times, and it still is if you want to stay on the bleeding edge, but you need to understand how to use --prefix to avoid screwing things up
[04:14] <kubuntuser> AyCarumba: gpart does alot of stuff
[04:14] <Minor> The_reaper489, thanks
[04:14] <DesertEagle> heh... mandrake
[04:14] <IdleOne> !gparted > AyCarumba
[04:15]  * DesertEagle remembers the day...
[04:15] <doltek> With Open Office (the version that comes with 9.10) how do I enable spell check (English Canada)?
[04:15] <Schnork> nobody can help me :( ?
[04:15] <iarp> Minor: did that work?
[04:15] <philh> DesertEagle, have you tried renaming ~/.purple or uninstalling pidgin and all plugins before reinstalling?
[04:15] <The_reaper489> Minor: sorry i could not help more
[04:15] <DesertEagle> philh: yup, no cigar
[04:15] <joshua___> I have found that I just don't believe sudo is all that good anymmore.
[04:15] <The_reaper489> Minor: i can help you get your ubuntu to look like Mac though...
[04:15] <Devastator> philh when i first started to make servers machines, i used to compile latest programs, but was a PITA! had to reinstall the whole system several times..
[04:16] <TooGreatBindy> cronide: Your nvidia opengl driver destroyed your networking card (Like can only happen with the windows nvidia video driver as its combined with both the video, and the network and the audio driver). Break one break everything kind of driver.
[04:16] <brocgiddens> I'm trying kopete now
[04:16] <yellowrooster> how can i find out what "group" a program is in? (For example, wicd is in the group named netdev)
[04:16] <ttols> ~/.purple color test
[04:16] <ttols> :)
[04:16] <Minor> The_reaper489, I took out adobe flash and put in adobe nonfreee... the flash app wont load now
[04:16] <cronide> TooGreatBindy solutions?!
[04:17] <ttols> how to wirte with purple color ?
[04:17] <TooGreatBindy> cronide: Use Linux instead. Windows blows!
[04:17] <The_reaper489> Minor: the none free is the one you have to pay for...
[04:17] <cronide> i'm on windows to have this chat right now
[04:17] <JO_DEE_54> hi all. using irssi and want to filter out join and quit messages. How?
[04:17] <cfedde> ttols: in open office?
[04:17] <cronide> i use ubuntu 9.10
[04:17] <The_reaper489> Minor: i think you should revert back to the free one...
[04:17] <philh> The_reaper489, no, non-free doesn't equate to paid for
[04:18] <ttols> no i'm using opera
[04:18] <TooGreatBindy> cronide: your problem could only happen on windows, ergo i find your previous saying a lie.
[04:18] <Minor> The_reaper489, I will because neither are working well anyway\
[04:18] <iarp> Minor: put this into terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla"
[04:18] <The_reaper489> philh: oh i didnt know that i just go for the free ones....I dont know much about flash
[04:18] <Thurin1> I'm testing out 9.10 and trying the Ubuntu-one service...  I'm trying to install nVidia drivers for a 230m. After a bit of fiddling, it let me install the restricted drivers (v190), but the system booted to a black screen.
[04:19] <Minor> iarp, Package flashplayer-mozilla has no installation candidate
[04:19] <Thurin1> No point 'backing up' anything there then... because soon as I quit, reboot etc - and don't come back the files will probably die as well or get deleted
[04:19] <IdleOne> !language | TooGreatBindy
[04:19] <philh> can we get a ban for out friend TooGreatBindy ?
[04:19] <twak> the recovery prompt just flickers at me and won't let me login. any ideas/
[04:19] <speel> Thurin1, transparency ;) if you delete the file in the one folder it'll be deleted in the cloud just as it would on your computer
[04:20] <The_reaper489> philh:oh hmm i didnt know that, well we learn something new everyday
[04:20] <Thurin1> speel, Yeah it's a good idea but it needs more options :)
[04:20] <scunizi> twak: did you shut down gdm before installing?
[04:20] <iarp> Minor: "sudo apt-get update" and then try it again, it should be there
[04:20] <Schnork> Can anyone help me ?
[04:20] <i_is_broke> !10.4
[04:20] <iarp> !ask | Schnork
[04:20] <Thurin1> 'sync files' or 'copy only' - etc
[04:20] <cronide> TooGreatBindy i'm saying i have problem with login on ubuntu... after putting fglrx driver
[04:20] <IdleOne> i_is_broke: 10.04
[04:20] <speel> Thurin1, think of it as a regular folder on your desktop
[04:20] <Minor> iarp, Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:20] <Thurin1> speel, Yes I understand that ;)
[04:20] <philh> cronide, i don't think he wants to help you, he's trolling
[04:20] <cronide> where is the lie? if u rnt able to help plz dont answer
[04:21] <cronide> yes, i know
[04:21] <Thurin1> I just wish I could copy files and not keep them on my PC at the same time, oh well
[04:21] <The_reaper489> !9.10
[04:21] <Thurin1> But it's good if I'm out and want to sync some pics back home
[04:21] <Thurin1> :)
[04:21] <The_reaper489> !bash
[04:21] <TooGreatBindy> I want "philh" banned for beeing an angry troll.
[04:21] <philh> Minor, where did you get your flash player from?
[04:21] <Schnork> iarp: I already ask my question a couple of time :(. The problem is I really can't do nothing with my computer and I need it to work :(
[04:21] <Thurin1> It's still pretty cool for the first version
[04:21] <Schnork> hi everybody. I've got a "little" problen with my computer since the last update : My touchpad doesn't work anymore, and, less important, ubuntu is really slow (slower than windows :( ). Can anyone help me (I've got a laptop Hp compaq presario CQ61)
[04:21] <The_reaper489> !man
[04:21] <speel> Thurin1, oh yea most definitly
[04:22] <i_is_broke> is the beta testing out for 10.4 yet?
[04:22] <The_reaper489> !sudo
[04:22] <Minor> iarp, ubuntu software center
[04:22] <iarp> Schnork: ah this chat goes by so fast sometimes we miss things
[04:22] <The_reaper489> !tar
 cronide: Your nvidia opengl driver destroyed your networking card (Like can only happen with the windows nvidia video driver as its combined with both the video, and the network and the audio driver). Break one break everything kind of driver.
[04:22] <Grunge> .join #anime-console-games
[04:22] <IdleOne> TooGreatBindy: please stick to support in this channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat. Also please stop acting like a jerk
[04:22] <The_reaper489> !ls
[04:22] <GerbilSoft> I suppose you've never heard of the 2.6.27-rc e1000 bug.
[04:22] <thiebaude> i_is_broke, the toolchain is supposed to be out Nov 5
[04:22] <Eric-Storm> I have two hard-drives. One is an 80 gig pure ubuntu. The other is a 160gig pure windows xp. Using wine, how do I get it to browse the hard-drive?
[04:22] <ctmjr> !msgthebot > The_reaper489
[04:22] <brocgiddens> alpha testing doesn't start for 10.4 until Jan
[04:22] <GerbilSoft> http://lwn.net/Articles/300202/
[04:22] <cronide> philh, can u help me?
[04:22] <IdleOne> The_reaper489: /msg ubottu please
[04:22] <i_is_broke> thiebaude, thanks ill make a note of that.
[04:22] <iarp> Minor: is the mozilla plugin listed in the package manager?
[04:22] <speel> damn this channel is like a kid with a serious case of ADHD lol
[04:22] <Scott57Newguy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto      This hasn't helped me... when i used the Hardware Drivers Option under Sys and try to download the AVI card option... IT FREEZES!!! Somebody please help me...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto      This hasn't helped me... when i used the Hardware Drivers Option under Sys and try to download the AVI card option... IT FREEZES!!! Somebody please help me...
[04:22] <thiebaude> i_is_broke, you ready already,lol
[04:22] <philh> cronide, i've never owned an ati card, let alone used the glx drivers, sorry
[04:23] <cronide> my kingdom for 1 help :D
[04:23] <sammich> I'm having trouble mounting an external drive. I posted to ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313671 but was hoping someone could help me. I really need a document off of it.
[04:23] <cronide> thx philh, it's okay
[04:23] <Billiard> Scott57Newguy: are you talking about an ATI card?
[04:23] <i_is_broke> thiebaude, i just set up a new test machine, just for helping with testing.
[04:23] <ht> anybody have any problems with apache server since upgrading to karmic?
[04:23] <brocgiddens> thiebaude i'm still waiting on 9.10 to straighten out
[04:23] <Scott57Newguy> Billiard: Yes
[04:23] <thiebaude> i_is_broke, cool
[04:23] <thiebaude> brocgiddens, i hear that
[04:24] <AyCarumba> I still cant find a simple way to format entire disk and start fresh?
[04:24] <Billiard> Scott57Newguy: its hard to understand when you say AVI every time instead of ATI
[04:24] <i_is_broke> thiebaude, i didnt have many issues with 9.10 so thought i would help with the next one...
[04:24] <TooGreatBindy> IdleOne: Kick some real jerks instead.  Any one got any ideas?
[04:24] <ht> SSL handshake seemed to have stopped working since upgrading.
[04:24] <IdleOne> !ops | TooGreatBindy
[04:24] <Scott57Newguy> Billiard:sorry lol ATI... do you know what the problem might be???
[04:24] <ctmjr> sammich, did youtry with sudo mount
[04:24] <thiebaude> AyCarumba, you got the ubuntu cd?
[04:24] <TooGreatBindy> !ops IdleOne Action -> Evil
[04:24] <brocgiddens> thiebaude, 9.10 isn't bad all around, just some loose ends
[04:24] <AyCarumba> thiebaude: yeah
[04:24] <obiwan_> hi back, nice i did a lan tracker, for i in {1..255}; do ping 192.168.1.$i; done; it rocks hehe
[04:25] <thiebaude> never had a problem with ubuntu in 5yrs
[04:25] <Billiard> Scott57Newguy: nope sorry
[04:25] <obiwan_> is my first bashscript hehe
[04:25] <thiebaude> AyCarumba, boot from cd
[04:25] <Scott57Newguy> =-(
[04:25] <Minor> iarp, I insstalled flash 10 from adobe website and its a little b etter
[04:25] <Scott57Newguy> can anyone offer me some advice??? should i just reinstall Ubuntu to fix this issue?? i wouldn't think i'd have too.... but nebody?
[04:25] <Scott57Newguy> can anyone offer me some advice??? should i just reinstall Ubuntu to fix this issue?? i wouldn't think i'd have too.... but nebody???????????
[04:26] <AyCarumba> thiebaude: no dice. I have a bad sectors on my hd and need to format then install fresh. I need a simple comm in terminal or something to format?
[04:26] <thiebaude> AyCarumba, ahh, ok
[04:26] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, ok, tell me what your issue is, sorry
[04:26] <iarp> Minor: it's been a long time since i used desktop version and had to mess around with flash and i'm kinda out of ideas now till someone else can figure it out(maybe google) you could try looking at this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[04:26] <JO_DEE_54> hi all. using irssi and want to filter out join and quit messages. How?
[04:26] <sammich> ctmjr, a thousand blessing upon you. Am I going to have to do that every time?
[04:26] <scunizi> JO_DEE_54: type /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits
[04:27] <Schnork> hi everybody. I've got a "little" problen with my computer since the last update : My touchpad doesn't work anymore, and, less important, ubuntu is really slow (slower than windows :( ). Can anyone help me (I've got a laptop Hp compaq presario CQ61)
[04:27] <scunizi> JO_DEE_54: then /save
[04:27] <IdleOne> JO_DEE_54: #irssi can help. The irssi website also has a great FAQ
[04:27] <cronide> i need to have a new default configuration. for my videocard and my eth0
[04:27] <cronide> con anyone help me?
[04:27] <hrunting> I'd like to report a bug with ubuntu 9.10, but every time I try to follow the instructions on the wiki, I get a "Timeout Error" from bugs.launchpad.net.  Does anyone know the proper alternate way to report a bug?
[04:27] <speel> Scott57Newguy, I have an ATI card if you go to the software center and just type ATI that should help you out
[04:27] <twak> can anyone help: I'm trying to install nVidia drivers for a 230m under karmic. After a bit of fiddling, it let me install the restricted drivers (v190), but the system booted to a black screen. After playing with xorg.conf i've got it back (without the drivers). Any ideas?
[04:27] <cronide> i dont want reinstall everything
[04:27] <The_reaper489> Minor: http://tinyurl.com/ykwetmu
[04:27] <iarp> Schnork: did you update from like 9.04 to the newest version, or just regular few patches type of thing
[04:27] <ctmjr> sammich, you can add it to fstab file read the man page "man fstab" has good info
[04:28] <The_reaper489> ctmjr: http://tinyurl.com/ykwetmu
[04:28] <ziggy> is there anyway to use duel screen with Compiz fushion ?????????
[04:28] <Scott57Newguy> brocgiddens: My Hardwarething under sys says i need a new Video driver (i just moved to linux two days ago.. its frozen up, and iidk why, it happened on EnvyNG originally, and has become a HUGE problem)... this has all sprouted from my simply wanting to use the DesktopCube feature.... now im wondering if i should just reinstall Ubuntu
[04:29] <philh> Scott57Newguy, what made you use envyng?
[04:29] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, have you tried using the recovery option on the grub menu? from there you can try to repair the GUI
[04:29] <Scott57Newguy> brocgiddens: im on a dual boot, giving linux a try, i like it, but it is very hard to find solutions to simple things... im being very patient but don't know what the heck to do uk.
[04:29] <Schnork> iarp:I update tio the newest version.
[04:29] <Scott57Newguy> philh:someone told me to use EnvyNG
[04:29] <thiebaude> Scott57Newguy, which nvidia card do you have?
[04:29] <philh> Scott57Newguy, oh, that was helpful of them
[04:29] <ctmjr> The_reaper489, what do you want me to do with that
[04:29] <Scott57Newguy> brocgiddens: i don't know how to do that,,, im a nub lol
[04:29] <ziggy> is there anyway to use duel screen with Compiz fushion ?????????
[04:30] <thiebaude> Scott57Newguy, system-administration-hardware drivers
[04:30] <The_reaper489> ctmjr: sorry wrong person, I pushed the wrong keyz lol
[04:30] <Scott57Newguy> im using an ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics card, its integrated into my Toshiba Satellite Laptop
[04:30] <ctmjr> The_reaper489, ok
[04:30] <thiebaude> Scott57Newguy, ok
[04:30] <bcgrown> hi all,  I just upgraded to 9.10 and when I plug my external monitor (LCD TV) in and do "Detect Displays",  it only shows me up to 1024x768,  when the TV's resolution is 1360x768.  How do I add the correct resolution?  (this worked fine in 8.10 but I don't remember if I had to mess with the settings or not)
[04:30] <Scott57Newguy> thiebaude:ive gone there... thats whats frozen
[04:31] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, at the  boot menu you chose between windows and linux, once you choose linux there should be options, one should be for recovery
[04:31] <adrn> Has anyone else found that while typing, their mouse, trackball, or trackpad is disabled?  Any non-control key disables my trackball for 500 ms, as if I were running touchfreeze.
[04:31] <speel> Scott57Newguy, have you tried to use the "hardware drivers" program in administration?
[04:31] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, one option after you boot the recovery will allow you to fix issues with the gui
[04:31] <Okiflyer> Whats up all
[04:31] <cronide> brocgiddens, i havent the toolz in that window to repair, only normal boot, repair packs...ect ect
[04:31] <Scott57Newguy> brocgiddens:what do i do once i hit the recovery??? im on the machine that i need ot fix, so will have to exit this room in order to execute any advice like that
[04:32] <cronide> in 9.04 yes
[04:32] <SnakDoc> is there a app that will sync to samba and sftp ?
[04:32] <Scott57Newguy> speel: yes like three times, it keeps freezing
[04:32] <speel> Scott57Newguy, and you searched the ATI drivers in the software center?
[04:32] <ispiked> does running `firefox http://www.google.com/' in a terminal with a firefox window already open work for people?
[04:32] <Scott57Newguy> speel:what should i search for, ATI?
[04:32] <iarp> Schnork: try "sudo apt-get install synaptics"
[04:33] <Okiflyer> Has anybody got there Lexmark printer to work. Lexmark is no help
[04:33] <speel> Scott57Newguy, yea
[04:33] <brocgiddens> Scott57Newguy, once you go into recovery there will be a menu to choose from and one option is related to the GUI....i've had to use it before
[04:33] <Okiflyer> Wireless X4550 printer
[04:33] <cronide> u find it typing fglrx too
[04:33] <speel> Scott57Newguy, I did that then I went back to the hardware drivers program and then it seen my ati card
[04:33] <speel> Scott57Newguy, but I had to restart once I installed the drivers
[04:33] <scunizi> ispiked: yep
[04:34] <ziggy> is there anyway to use duel screen with Compiz fushion ?????????
[04:34] <ispiked> scunizi: what does `which firefox' return?
[04:34] <jj_galvez> ispiked: seems to work for me
[04:34] <cronide> speel my problemis come back to opensource driver... my boot fail now with that drivers...
[04:34] <jj_galvez> ziggy: yes I use it that way at work, what problems are you having?
[04:34] <Scott57Newguy> speel: so once i install this catalyst control thing i should restart THEN try to install the drivers through Sys/admin/HardDrivers?
[04:34] <scunizi> ispiked: it returns /usr/bin/firefox
[04:35] <ispiked> scunizi: better yet: ls -l `which firefox`
[04:35] <Scott57Newguy> speel: could i pm you to talk about this?
[04:35] <hrunting> well, if anyone knows the answer to my question about why the bug reporting process keeps timing out, just PM me
[04:35] <hrunting> thanks
[04:35] <speel> sure
[04:35] <elky> is there a way to adjust where the notify bubbles appear?
[04:35] <Schnork> iarp: I can't install synaptics. It said that the package doesn't exists
[04:35] <speel> Scott57Newguy, sure
[04:36] <iarp> Schnork: heh go figure
[04:36] <scunizi> ispiked: nothing.. except .."cannot access which firefox: no such file or directory
[04:36] <Insluter> I have a relatively rudimentary C++ question
[04:36] <ispiked> scunizi: did you use backticks around which firefox?
[04:36] <cronide> nice...really really nice choose this way to solve my problems....
[04:37] <The_reaper489> Insluter: i know c++ ask away
[04:37] <Insluter> I have no idea why I'm getting errors from function calls
[04:37] <The_reaper489> Insluter: what compiler are you useing sometimes they mess stuff up
[04:38] <scunizi> ispiked: yep .. both with and with
[04:38] <scunizi> *without
[04:38] <Insluter> bloodshed dev-C++
[04:38] <iarp> Schnork: see if this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:38] <Insluter> also, this is for homework, to clarify
[04:38] <ispiked> scunizi: ok, thanks
[04:38] <Tiggers> Why doesn't my tv tuner show up under lspci
[04:38] <marco> I'm trying to build a file but i get make errors number 1 and 2. is there a solution?
[04:38] <Insluter> I'll pastebin it
[04:39] <The_reaper489> Insluter: let me think here
[04:40] <tc111> Tiggers: is it a pci/pci-express x1, x4, x8, x16, networked or usb?
[04:40] <Insluter> http://pastebin.org/50717
[04:40] <The_reaper489> Insluter: this might help, ive never had bloodshed give me problems like that
[04:40] <localnnuser__> any one knows how to let kde manage cpu cores???
[04:40] <Tiggers> pci express I believe, don't know what speed
[04:40] <The_reaper489> Insluter:http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3183867/Re-the-error-in-managed-cplusplus-function-call-un.aspx
[04:40] <GerbilSoft> Insluter: you need to declare function prototypes at the top of the file
[04:41] <tc111> Tiggers: notebook or desktop?
[04:41] <Tiggers> desktop
[04:41] <GerbilSoft> Insluter: also, functions that don't take parameters should have "void" as their parameters
[04:41] <GerbilSoft> e.g. int main(void)
[04:41] <sammich> ctmjr, I'm note sure what to do in fstab. Storage Device Manager has some options, including to change "uid=root", but I'm not really sure what needs to be done
[04:41] <ilikefood> can anyone help me out with a grub2 problem?
[04:41] <The_reaper489> Insluter: i dont see anything wrong with that...
[04:41] <marco> is there a way of making my webcam (lifecam vx-3000) working?
[04:41] <tc111> Tiggers: what does 'sudo lspci -vnn' produce? use pastebin to post
[04:41] <Insluter> d'oh
[04:41] <tc111> !pastebin > Tiggers
[04:42] <Tiggers> one sec
[04:43] <arand> ilikefood: specify problem (hence if someone knows they'll be able to jump on it).
[04:43] <ilikefood> i had winxp installed on the second partition of my hard drive, so grub2 doesn't recognize it being there
[04:43] <iarp> marco: tried google yet? i searched "ubuntu lifecam vx-3000" and thres a bunch of results on front page
[04:43] <AyCarumba> does nobody know how to format hd in ubuntu?
[04:43] <Tiggers> http://paste.ubuntu.com/309136/
[04:43] <adrn> Anyone with a sec or two free who is running Karmic: hold spacebar or any letter/number down and see if you can still move your mouse pointer.  Since upgrade to Karmic, I cannot.
[04:44] <tc111> Tiggers: one sec...
[04:44] <ctmjr> sammich, it is a usb hard drive?
[04:44] <sammich> ctmjr, yes
[04:44] <iarp> Schnork: any luck?
[04:44] <marco> thanks iarp
[04:44] <twak> adrn: cursor pauses for a second, then continues
[04:45] <ctmjr> sammich, and ubuntu does not mount it when you plug it in?
[04:45] <adrn> Thanks, twak -- that is what I am seeing -- 500ms delay after key is released.  If holding key down continually, mouse is disabled.  I was using spacebar to move my WoW char, so this is very annoying.
[04:45] <CreativeEmbassy> can someone help me figure out why I can't ssh into my own ubuntu box?
[04:46] <CreativeEmbassy> I just got it installed
[04:46] <CreativeEmbassy> and I thought I configured it correctly
[04:46] <speel> CreativeEmbassy, what error do you get?
[04:46] <CreativeEmbassy> I'll do anything!
[04:46] <Billiard> CreativeEmbassy: what error do you get?
[04:46] <notfoo> CreativeEmbassy: just connec refused?
[04:46] <CreativeEmbassy> "ssh: Could not resolve hostname <IP_ADDRESS>:22222: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[04:46] <CreativeEmbassy> "
[04:46] <adrn> Twak -- are you using a touchpad?  I assumed this was related to my touchpad, maybe it is more global than that.
[04:46] <jj_galvez> AyCarumba: use gparted
[04:47] <speel> just try ssh <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:47] <DanaG> hmm, try disabling the "disable touchpad when typing" feature.
[04:47] <notfoo> post ur sshd_config to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> <IP_ADDRESS> is the static IP I set up for the box, and I thought I had it set to 22222 as an alternate port
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> ok
[04:47] <DanaG> It's rather badly implemented... it hangs the mouse even on arrow keys and spacebar.
[04:47] <sammich> ctmjr, No. Thread here with a screenshot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8237659, it says mount: only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> clinton@griffith ~/src/conductor (new-week-view)↑ $ ssh <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> lemme run the sshd config
[04:47] <notfoo> CreativeEmbassy: & it's not a firewall thing, right?
[04:47] <CreativeEmbassy> and I'll post it
[04:47] <notfoo> k
[04:48] <CreativeEmbassy> I have no idea if it's a firewall thing :-p but I'm on the internal network
[04:48] <adrn> None of the touchpad control panels will load -- have tried all the /etc/X11... /etc/hal...  /usr/share/hal... stuff
[04:48] <twak> adrn: yeah, it's a touchpad
[04:48] <angelus> ardn im using a touchpad ... no such problems on my end ... (i.e. no pausing after space, shift, ctrl, Win and h,j,k,o and 6)
[04:48] <speel> CreativeEmbassy, is 22222 even a valid port?
[04:48] <twak> adrn: don't have a mouse on me right now
[04:48] <speel> CreativeEmbassy, well also open up the port on your router
[04:48] <notfoo> that won't matter on his LAN
[04:48] <mvsn> im curious is there any way to send a message to a gui user from the terminal?
[04:48] <CreativeEmbassy> I opened up the external port, but notfoo is right
[04:48] <Blue1> mvsn: wall
[04:48] <tc111> Tiggers: ok, now what does 'sudo lsusb; sudo lsusb -t' produce? use pastebin again.
[04:48] <Tiggers> ssh localhost
[04:49] <mvsn> Blue1: thank you
[04:49] <Blue1> mvsn: ctrl+d to terminate
[04:49] <CreativeEmbassy> ssh localhost gives me connection refused
[04:49] <CreativeEmbassy> is that a sign it's running on port 22?
[04:49] <Blue1> CreativeEmbassy: do you have the openssh-server installed?
[04:49] <twak> adrn:it pauses as soon as the key is pressed, but continue half a second later, even if the key is still pressed
[04:49] <CreativeEmbassy> also, where do I get sshd_config?
[04:49] <Tiggers> tc111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309141/
[04:50] <CreativeEmbassy> lemme doublecheck, I should!
[04:50] <tc111> Tiggers: one sec... again...
[04:50] <notfoo> CreativeEmbassy: is there something running when you type this:   ps -e | grep sshd
[04:50] <ctmjr> sammich, you have a dir in /media called sdb1 already?
[04:50] <notfoo> (on the ssh server)
[04:50] <Viking667> is it NORMAL to experience a whole lot of weird stuff once having updated to Karmic?
[04:50] <heyyyyyyylp> what is npviewer.bin it's killing my system
[04:50] <CreativeEmbassy> yup
[04:51] <tc111> Tiggers: i also need the output from 'sudo lsusb' please...
[04:51] <CreativeEmbassy> 1410 ?     00:00:00 sshd
[04:51] <notfoo> CreativeEmbassy: if you do have openssh-server installed. type:  cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config ~/Desktop/output.txt
[04:51] <Viking667> i.e. older kernel versions not being able to run alsamixer, and no dri available, etc?
[04:51] <Blue1> heyyyyyyylp: it's an image viewer
[04:51] <adrn>   So some of what Iam seeing may be hardware-- may need to unplug touchpad and comment out all refs to synaptic in configs I can find.
[04:51] <notfoo> & past ethat output.txt to -> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <Viking667> oh, and no input devices present except what Xorg sees?
[04:51] <notfoo> whoops
[04:51] <CreativeEmbassy> sure, one sec
[04:51] <heyyyyyyylp> it suddenly consumed all my cpu and everything is grinding to a halt, i wasn't even viewing a picture
[04:51] <Tiggers> tc111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309143/
[04:51] <notfoo> cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config >> ~/Desktop/output.txt
[04:51] <notfoo> forgot the >>
[04:52] <tc111> Tiggers: thx...
[04:52] <notfoo> er well 1 > but doesn't matter in this case
[04:52] <discrete> How do I turn off the splash screen in Karmic?
[04:52] <CreativeEmbassy> lemme open paste on the ubuntu box
[04:52] <CreativeEmbassy> paste.ubuntu.com?
[04:52] <CreativeEmbassy> right
[04:52] <CreativeEmbassy> I see that
[04:52] <sammich> ctmjr, there appears to be one right now, yes. But the drive is also mounted at this time (if that matters)
[04:53] <douma> Can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[04:53] <CreativeEmbassy> pasted
[04:53] <KB1JWQ> douma: That'd depend upon the specific problem.
[04:53] <notfoo> ok
[04:53] <notfoo> give me link it gave you
[04:53] <KB1JWQ> !sound | douma
[04:53] <CreativeEmbassy> paste.ubuntu.com/309146
[04:53] <notfoo> sec
[04:53] <douma> ahh thank you kb1jwq, Ill try that now
[04:54] <discrete> Is there a way to disable the splash screen in Karmic?
[04:54] <dmkirby> how do i change my user icon in xubuntu 9.10?
[04:54] <Schnork> Hi. Does anybody know where I can find xorg.conf ?
[04:54] <TheSpot> Was there a time that rapidshare didn't have an upload limit?
[04:54] <TheSpot> or is that something they've always had
[04:54] <kisielk_home> I'm trying to VNC in to my Ubuntu machine from Windows, but for some reason all of the keys are totally messed up. Has anyone seen this before?
[04:54] <osirisx11> hi
[04:54] <marco> does empathy have videocalling?
[04:54] <ctmjr> sammich, no it does not matter open the fstab file gksu gedit /etc/fstab if your on gnome
[04:55] <osirisx11> anyone else having problems getting karmic to recognize ipods?
[04:55] <kisielk_home> delete and enter don't work, the rest of the keys input random characters. As far as I can tell, the keyboard map is set properly
[04:55] <notfoo> CreativeEmbassy: looks ok, hrm
[04:55] <dmkirby> how do i change my user tile in xubuntu??
[04:55] <knoppies> how do I unzip a .tar.bz2 from the terminal?
[04:55] <sammich> ctmjr, ok
[04:55] <kisielk_home> knoppies: tar -jxvf <file>
[04:56] <knoppies> kisielk_home, thanks
[04:56] <ujj27> hi
[04:56] <Schnork> iarp: Is there a way to downgrade to the previous version ?
[04:56] <chalcedony> syn-ack, hugs
[04:56] <ctmjr> sammich, is it ntfs file system?
[04:56] <sammich> ctmjr, yes
[04:56] <shindow> my package source don't have curl-devel  ,how should i install it
[04:56] <DaveyAM> hi guys.. grub manager recommendation?
[04:57] <Dancho> the proper one
[04:57] <kisielk_home> DaveyAM: vi
[04:57] <c0ld> how do you restore back to the original drivers of Ubuntu for wireless cards
[04:57] <twak> I've managed to recover the system. Still trying for nvidia 230m support with 190 drivers. Display powers off before login - any ideas?
[04:57] <osirisx11> karmic: IPOD not mounting? help!
[04:57] <DaveyAM> kisielk_home: vi?
[04:57] <kisielk_home> or your text editor of choice
[04:57] <tc111> Tiggers: what model is your HP desktop?
[04:57] <Dancho> anyone has been acepted for the Cd of karmic?
[04:57] <Dancho> the shiptit thing
[04:58] <Barridus> can anyone get me sorted on the syntax of using umount to unmount a network resource that's mounted to (at least according to nautilus) ~/.gvfs/media on <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[04:58] <c0ld> how do you restore back to the original drivers of Ubuntu for wireless cards
[04:58] <Tiggers> sec
[04:58] <DaveyAM> kisielk_home: well.. i just talking about some application...
[04:58] <Schnork> Can anybody explain me how I can downgrad to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[04:58] <iarp> Schnork: that i'm not sure of sorry. If you could find the prev. one then there must be someway to install that, but i'm not familiar with doing that
[04:58] <JJman6> does anyone use (open)ssl within a terminal?  I have annoying problems with it freezing up (becoming unresponsive) while connected and having to force the terminal window closed and reconnect in terminal!!
[04:58] <Tiggers> m7060n
[04:58] <Dancho> me
[04:58] <Barridus> Schnork, reinstall, unfortunately.  downgrading is not really possinle
[04:59] <Barridus> possible*
[04:59] <DaveyAM> kisielk_home: a good grub management.. i don't know..
[04:59] <Tiggers> its an old media center pc that I bought off a guy
[04:59] <discrete> Does anybody know if you can turn off the splash screen in 9.10? You can't just do it in menu.lst anymore.
[04:59] <discrete> I installed StartUp Manager and deleted the usplash, but that didn't help.
[04:59] <kisielk_home> DaveyAM: what's there to manage? the config file syntax is straight forward, just edit it by hand
[04:59] <notfoo> Schnork: agree with Barridus.
[05:00] <Schnork> Barridus: Ok... I'll try to find a way :'(. Thanks
[05:00] <c0ld> how do you restore back to the original drivers of Ubuntu for wireless cards
[05:00] <Dancho> people... anyone has been acepted for the shipit of karmic?
[05:00] <c0ld> I want to return the original state of my wireless card drivers
[05:00] <ctmjr> sammich, under the last entry add this /dev/sdb1    /media/sdb1    ntfs-3g  defaults    locale=en_US.utf8  0  0
[05:01] <Barridus> Schnork problems you'll run into are config files and so forth all over that there's no process to reverse changes
[05:01] <Hilikus> hey guys. i have an ubuntu server i've been updating since feisty. i want to do a clean install now but i want to keep all my data. in desktops you keep /home, but what about in servers?
[05:01] <loquitus> How do I tar a bunch of files without including the directory they are in as part of the tarball?
[05:01] <Barridus> Schnork, try backing up /home/ , wiping/reinstalling, then restoring /home/ perhaps
[05:01] <c0ld> I want to return the original state of my wireless card drivers
[05:02] <loquitus> For example, if they are in tmp/, and I do tar cf foo.tar tmp/, it will include tmp/ in the resulting archive.
[05:02] <c0ld> how do you restore back to the original drivers of Ubuntu for wireless cards
[05:02] <osirisx11> i can't mount my ipod in karmic, anyone have any ideas?
[05:02] <Hilikus> loquitus: try tmp/*
[05:02] <JJman6> how can i see what ports are being used on my machine!
[05:02] <Barridus> can anyone get me sorted on the syntax of using umount to unmount a network resource that's mounted to (at least according to nautilus) ~/.gvfs/media on <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[05:02] <sammich> ctmjr, I already have the following: /dev/sdb1                                  /media/sdb1    ntfs         nls=iso8859-1,umask=000  0  0          do I need to delete that?
[05:02] <loquitus> Hilikus: actually it was the /* I did.
[05:02] <ctmjr> sammich, no
[05:03] <Hilikus> what's the status on ext4. is it safe to use now in 9.10?
[05:03] <ctmjr> sammich, do not add what i told you too add
[05:03] <Barridus> Hilikus, yes it's default in 9.19
[05:03] <Barridus> 10*
[05:03] <sammich> ctmjr, ok
[05:03] <DaveyAM> kisielk_home: i want to install some grub manager that can apply image in my grub changing that (by image list) every boot automatically...
[05:04] <DaveyAM> kisielk_home: manual?...
[05:05] <ctmjr> sammich, do this sudo chown "your name" /dev/sdb1 that should fix it if not someone let me know
[05:05] <HJanfield> Trying to reinstall Ubuntu 904... got the BIOS set to CDROM/CDROM/CDROM boot order just to make damn sure, yet the system still seems to be booting from the hard drive.
[05:05] <MarkDude> hello darkchest  - glad you made it
[05:05] <HJanfield> WTF?
[05:06] <DaveyAM> so guys... tell me about a good grub manager.. :)
[05:06] <Schnork> I upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now my laptop is completly unworkable : Touchpad does'nt work, sound doesn't work, graphic card have some problems, and the computer is really slow. Any Ideas ? Or I really have to reinstall everything ? :(
[05:06] <darkchest> thank you mark
[05:06] <darkchest>  i have a toshiba laptop running 9.4... do you recommend i wait a little for upgrading issues to be resolved before upgrading myself?
[05:06] <tc111> Tiggers: ok, i'm at a loss, one more file to put on pastebin... /var/log/messages
[05:06] <AeganSkies> what's your laptop model?
[05:07] <osirisx11> i can't mount my ipod in karmic, anyone have any ideas?
[05:07] <discrete> Can someone tell me how to edit the splash screen in Karmic?
[05:07] <discrete> I installed StartUp Manager and edited the usplash, but that didn't help.
[05:07] <MarkDude> darkchest,  I should have asked how you were talking on irc 1st
[05:07] <ubuntu> hii every body
[05:07] <Schnork> darkchest: since my upgarde completly fails. I'll suggest you to wait a little
[05:07] <ubuntu> i have a big problem
[05:07] <Tiggers> sec
[05:08] <ubuntu> can you halp me please
[05:08] <livroz> +e livroz
[05:08] <livroz> xcD
[05:08] <ubuntu> i deleted /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:08] <ubuntu> and now dont open my sistem
[05:09] <darkchest> thanks schnork
[05:09] <HJanfield> Here's an off-the-side question. I've seen numerous web sites that say "your hard drive will show up as /dev/sda if it is SATA, /dev/hda if IDE"
[05:09] <MarkDude> darkchest,  i would recommend waiting a little also.
[05:09] <heyyyyyyylp> is anyone else getting frequent npviewer.bin segfaults?
[05:09] <HJanfield> I have put Ubuntu on two old systems with only IDE connections... and everything mounts as /dev/sda / sdb / etc
[05:09] <G226> Question: I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, I have a V-UBV49 Logitech Quickcam USB webcam+microphone. I can't find any official or unofficial drivers for Ubuntu/linux, I googled the model number and didn't come up with much in getting it to work, does anyone know if it's possible?
[05:09] <ctmjr> ubuntu, what did you think would happen?
[05:10] <ubuntu> i don t no*
[05:10] <Tiggers> tc111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309153/
[05:10] <Schnork> I upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now my laptop is completly unworkable : Touchpad does'nt work, sound doesn't work, graphic card have some problems, and the computer is really slow. Any Ideas ? Or I really have to reinstall everything ? :(
[05:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Why did you delete it?
[05:10] <ubuntu> i m use ubuntu live cd now
[05:10] <angelus> ubuntu i think you can re-install GRUB from the LiveCD .... there prolly is a better way though ...
[05:10] <knoppies> Schnork, ive had problems upgrading before. So I would recomend a fresh clean isntall.
[05:11] <knoppies> Schnork, forgive my spelling. i dont know whats gotten into me today.
[05:11] <malice> any one when the function keys are going to work again in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:11] <MarkDude> ubuntu do you have enough room for a second install?
[05:11] <iarp> knoppies: Schnork, agreed i'd never upgrade(always tend to bring problems along with it, and you tend to not get proper experiences)
[05:11] <sammich> ctmjr, that did not seem to have any effect
[05:12] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[05:12] <Schnork> iarp: So, why is there an upgrade function :(
[05:12] <malice> any one when the function keys are going to work again in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:12] <osirisx11> i can't mount my ipod in karmic, anyone have any ideas?
[05:13] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[05:13] <ubuntu> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bayt
[05:13] <ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[05:13] <ubuntu> Units = silindir of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:13] <ubuntu> Disk identifier: 0x77777777
[05:13] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <ubuntu>    Aygıt Açılış    Başlangıç     Bitiş  BlokSayısı Kml Sistem
[05:13] <scunizi> Schnork: not everyone has a bad upgrade experience.. I on the other hand maintain a seperate /home partition and always fresh install.. my machines are finiky
[05:14] <twak>  Still trying for nvidia 230m support with 190 drivers. Display powers off before login - any ideas? Disabling GDM has no effect.
[05:14]  * SeaPhor does as scunizi
[05:14] <freelollo> yes and it is realy nice here http://freedombeachresort.com
[05:14]  * scunizi thinks like minds ... etc etc
[05:15] <Insluter> thanks for your help btw
[05:15] <Barridus> can anyone get me sorted on the syntax of using umount to unmount a network resource that's mounted to (at least according to nautilus) ~/.gvfs/media on <IP_ADDRESS>  ?  i don't understand the docs D:
[05:15] <Schnork> scunizi: My problem is I'm only a "basic" user. Ubuntu asked me to upgrade, so I've done what it asked ! But now, I really regret that
[05:15] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/309157/
[05:15] <SeaPhor> and scunizi for my servers and game-box, i only use the LTS
[05:16] <scunizi> Schnork: how large is your drive? do you have enough room to create another partiton and copy all your data to it?
[05:16] <scunizi> SeaPhor: I'm on LTS now on my lappy
[05:16] <Jordan_U> Barridus: If you mount it via gvfs ( nautilus ) you need to unmount it via gvfs
[05:16] <ubuntu> help
[05:17] <Schnork> snunizi: I've no problem with my data, All already is in another partition
[05:17] <MarkDude> ubuntu,  if you have enough space you can do a second install- side by side that will fix grub
[05:17] <HJanfield> I have a system that isn't booting from CD - despite the fact it has done so in the past, and is set to only boot from CD in the BIOS. When I try to access the CD from a recovery console (because I can't boot into Ubuntu fully), I get squat. any ideas?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: That is not neccisary
[05:18] <Barridus> Jordan_U, does that mean i can't use a terminal command, but must use nautilus?
[05:18] <TaoYinqing> sduo su
[05:18] <TaoYinqing> reboot
[05:18] <scunizi> Schnork: ah.. then you're probably fine.. just reinstall.. 40 minutes and you're done..  the next release will be LTS.. good for 3 years.. but don't install it until it gets to the .1 version for download
[05:18] <Schnork> scunizi: I've no problem with my data, All already is in another partition
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Barridus: There is probably a way to do it via ther terminal but I don't know what that is
[05:18] <android_ani_> HJanfield..check the disk for integrity..or might have been scratched..I had de same problem
[05:18] <hans> I just got my new laptop HDD in the mail. Is there some way I can put the Ubuntu installer on my new HDD without having to burn it to anything? I have an external enclosure, could I "dd if=/blah/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sde1/" ?
[05:18] <hans> and THEN plug the new HDD into my laptop and just fire it up?
[05:18] <Barridus> Jordan_U, me neither XD
[05:18] <Bobo> hello
[05:19] <Schnork> scunizi: But how I reinstall it without cd ?
[05:19] <HJanfield> android_ani_: Disk is in perfect shape. Been sitting in a drive since it was burned and booted from three weeks ago.
[05:19] <MarkDude> the question is Jordan_U  what is ubuntu s comfort level
[05:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Do you know which of those partitions contains /boot?
[05:19] <Bobo> how do i install soe ati drivers that I downloaded i dubble click the file but nothing happens so what is the command to install them
[05:19] <scunizi> Schnork: I'll give you a link.. there are lots of ways.. usb key.. net install etc.
[05:19] <bluejeans> hans: why not just clone the whole HD?
[05:19] <ubuntu> sda6
[05:19] <scunizi> !install | Schnork
[05:19] <android_ani_> I had the same problem with Kubuntu 9.04..will boot in at time..At times i used to get an I/O error.You dont get any errors?
[05:19] <cfedde> see also clonezilla
[05:19] <tc111> Tiggers: wow, not a single mention of the device... there should be messages about 'ivtv' or 'dvb' but you've got nothing... according to your motherboard specs, you've got 3 pci slots, open the machine and move the tuner card to a different slot.
[05:19] <hans> bluejeans: I want to reinstall, I orignally installed with 9.10a and it's being buggy, want a fresh install
[05:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Is it a separate partition or part of "/" ?
[05:20] <MarkDude> do you have windows also ubuntu ?
[05:20] <JJman6> how can i see what ports are being used on my machine!
[05:20] <Tiggers> tc111: already did
[05:20] <Barridus> Jordan_U, the issue i have is that a home backup script yanks the contents of a 2tb network share if i forget to unmount it first.  i'd like to be able to have a umount command or equivalent in the script as a safety net
[05:20] <ubuntu> Jordan_U, sda6
[05:20] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: sda6
[05:20] <android_ani_> Anybody here knows how to use wireshark :D?
[05:20] <tc111> Tiggers: not good, did you notice what the chipset on the pci tuner card was when you had it out?
[05:20] <Bobo> how do i install ati drivers that I downloaded i dubble click the file but nothing happens so what is the command to install them
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Barridus: You should make your script stay within a single file system
[05:20] <hans> Bobo: what kind of file is it?
[05:20] <Tiggers> AverMedia something
[05:20] <ctmjr> sammich, am at a loss in fstab the umask 000 is the same as 777 permissions so you should have read write access to it let me look and see what i can find, unplug it and plug it back in see if it mounts this time
[05:21] <android_ani_> Bobo what format are the downloaded files in?
[05:21] <Tiggers> if firefox would load, I can get you the exact model
[05:21] <vtec> Hello I've updated to karmic koala and my sound is acting up, it doesn't work after restarting alsa utils, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. but now it won't work at all, i've tried loggoing out and back in (can't restart because i'm busy) does anyone know of this problem
[05:21] <Bobo> hans it is graphics files with drivers for my graphic card
[05:21] <Barridus> Jordan_U, it runs a series of rsync commands
[05:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Do you currenly have that partition mounted?
[05:21] <Schnork> scunizi: That's fine. I'm rnearly done reinstalling Win7, so I'll use it
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Barridus: rsync can stay within a file system
[05:21] <android_ani_> I mean in what "format" are they  .deb or .tar.gz?
[05:21] <Tiggers> AVerMedia M150-D
[05:21] <hans> Bobo: tarball, deb, what kind of file?
[05:21] <Tiggers> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/AVerMedia_M150-D
[05:21] <Schnork> scunizi: And so I'll be able to burn a new ubuntu cd
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Barridus: It can also exclude directories
[05:22] <ffffffffff> jjman6: netstat -lp will give you a list of processes with the ports they are listening on
[05:22] <Barridus> Jordan_U, but doesn't gvfs fuse throw that off?
[05:22] <scunizi> Schnork: that'll work
[05:22] <Bobo> hans this file here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.115&lang=English
[05:22] <hans> if I take my new laptop hard drive and put it in an enclosure, DD the ubuntu iso to it, then plug it into my laptop and fire it up, will I be able to install ubuntu?
[05:22] <android_ani_> fffffffffffff do u know how to use wireshark ?
[05:22] <tc111> Tiggers: i find it hard to believe that 'v4l2', 'ivtv' & 'dvb' entries are missing for a supported card or that even a mention of an unknown card is absent from all your probes and files...
[05:22] <Jordan_U> Barridus: No, .gvfs is another filesystem
[05:22] <JJman6> ffffffffff: thx
[05:22] <tc111> Tiggers: did this card work under a previous version of ubuntu?
[05:22] <hans> Bobo: what does the file name end it? .tar.gz? .deb? .exe?
[05:22] <fooj> vtec: change the config
[05:22] <Jordan_U> hans: No
[05:22] <Barridus> Jordan_U, yeah i tried to exclude ~/.gvfs but it didn't seem to work, i must not understand what i'm reading on doc sites
[05:22] <Tiggers> this is the first distribution I've put on it
[05:23] <Bobo> hans the file ends in .run
[05:23] <Tiggers> jaunty that is
[05:23] <hans> Jordan_U: is there any way I can do that?
[05:23] <ffffffffff> android_ani: I saw a guy use it once, so, no (sorry)
[05:23] <Jordan_U> hans: Why not install on another machine then just move the hard drive?
[05:23] <Tiggers> should I fire up a livecd of Ibex and see if it detects it?
[05:23] <obiwan_> please, what's wrong with this if [$(($i%10))=0]; then echo $i fi; ?
[05:23] <hans> Bobo: try (in terminal) "./blah.run" or "sh blah.run"
[05:23] <darkchest> #quit
[05:23] <johnfg> hi folks
[05:23] <android_ani_> ./configure
[05:23] <cdw32> I am trying to install a .tar.bz2 file and im not sure how to. Could anyone shed some light?
[05:23] <Bobo> hans ok
[05:23] <android_ani_> then sudo make install
[05:23] <obiwan_> is there really a quit chanenel? lol xd
[05:23] <hans> Jordan_U: I can do that with an external drive?
[05:23] <tc111> Tiggers: i figured jaunty from the kernel version listed... let me check what avermedia cards are supported...
[05:24] <johnfg> Is there a rescue mode on the karmic i386 desktop cd?
[05:24] <scunizi> cdw32: that's like a zip file.. what is it?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> obiwan_: You need a space before and after the square braces ( '[]' )
[05:24] <johnfg> I wanted to try reinstalling the grub loader, since I can't get karmic to boot.
[05:24] <Jordan_U> hans: Yes
[05:24] <tc111> Tiggers: intrepid might if its an older card that's been dropped... have you downloaded a copy of karmic yet?
[05:24] <cdw32> firefox 3.5
[05:24] <hans> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:24] <Jordan_U> hans: np
[05:24] <Tiggers> Karmic didn't see it
[05:24] <cdw32> scunizi: firefox
[05:25] <sammich>   ctmjr, I do have read write access. I just can't mount/unmount.
[05:25] <scunizi> cdw32: if you're using karmic then 3.5 is already install.. why install it again?
[05:25] <vtec> fooj: how do i do this?