[00:00] <qin> Nickel: sl, sudo apt-get install sl (perfect practical annoyance for command line beginers)
[00:00] <SIFTU> sam555: if you are tyring to install the pptp connector for network manager it's in the repos
[00:00] <Nickel> qin, cool
[00:01] <oakman> what linux distro is similar to opensuse?  so i don't use them
[00:01] <Nickel> qin, anything else?
[00:01] <IdleOne> !ot | oakman
[00:02] <Trashi> hi guys. i have an external monitor and i want to define a seperate x screen. works fine, but all desktop files i can see on screen0 arent available on screen1! is there usefull solution for that?
[00:02] <htpc> anybody can help with a bluetooth headset ?
[00:02] <qin> Nickel: There are hundreds of programs, hard to say one best; what are you keen about?
[00:03] <B0g4r7> Nickel, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:03] <Nickel> B0g4r7, what's that?
[00:03] <SetiAmon> hmm
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, i'm really into android, would love to learn how to dev
[00:03] <blognewb> hey guys do  you have to pay royalty to mpeg-la if you decide to sell h264 videos
[00:03] <B0g4r7> It lets you turn on all kinds of visual effects like "wobbly windows" and raindrops and such.
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, and i just want to learn linux in general, be familiar with tons of code and such
[00:03] <Nickel> qin, how does sl work exactly?
[00:03] <SetiAmon> So sound is all distorted with my fresh install of Ubuntu
[00:03] <qin> Nickel: So first stop is virtualbox (to run android)
[00:04] <Nickel> nice
[00:04] <SetiAmon> its like it plays,but staticy overlays.sometimes it will repeats itself over and over like a echo becoming more distorted
[00:04] <Nickel> qin, says virtual box has no installation candidate
[00:04] <nuclearworm> hello, my computer boot only fat16 partitioned usb pen drive. is there a way to create a fat16 boot partition or a cd or floppy that tell th system where ubuntu is installed?
[00:04] <qin> Nickel: If you make typo in common comands (ls cd) it will make neat stuff.
[00:05] <B0g4r7> Nickel,  you will need to add the virtualbox repo to apt.
[00:05] <Nickel> repository?
[00:05] <B0g4r7> yes.  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[00:06] <qin> Nickel: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[00:06] <urlin2u> blognewb, how would we know.
[00:06] <qin> !tab > Nickel
[00:07] <Nickel> lolol ubottu...
[00:08] <Nickel> qin, ooooh, i have to direct everything i say to someone... gotcha. what other commands you have for that bot? :D
[00:08] <Nickel> qin, virtualbox-ose is currently installing
[00:08] <coz_> !bot
[00:09] <Nickel> ubottu, i love you mr. bot.
[00:09] <Nickel> ubottu, you are though, so very
[00:10] <Nickel> how many people come in here and chat with the bot? because i... think it's awesome.
[00:10] <coz_> Nickel,  actually not many,, it is discourages unless you need information :)
[00:11] <coz_> Nickel,  I mean 'discouraged"
[00:11] <Logan_> !botabuse | Nickel
[00:11] <oakman> during ubuntu installation;  how come it does not ask for root password
[00:11] <rww> !noroot
[00:11] <nuclearworm> what is mount point for?
[00:11] <rww> !root
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Someone's alive?
[00:12] <SetiAmon> so whats hte fix for fixing audio?
[00:12] <coz_> Emmanuel_Chanel,  many people are here ...yes
[00:12] <Nickel> coz_, sorry about that, was trying to be funny. :P
[00:12] <IceGuest_77> I'm looking to dualboot Win7/Ubuntu, my system is configured with RAID 0, for windows i had to use chipset drivers during the installation, is this the same case for ubuntu? Do I need chipset drivers for the installation to use?
[00:12] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I cannot upgrade my linux kernel on Ubuntu.
[00:13] <coz_> Nickel,  no problem,, it can be fun :)  however it would start to interfere with s upport
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> >failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/modules/2.6.38-11-generic/kernel/fs/dlm/dlm.ko': No space left on device
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> That's the error message.
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> But I've extended the space on / filesystem.
[00:13] <coz_> Emmanuel_Chanel,   your hard drive is full?
[00:13] <Emmanuel_Chanel> No.
[00:14] <blognewb> is there a way to know which file format was used in a mp4 container file?
[00:14] <Nickel> qin, that finished downloading, anything else?
[00:14] <Emmanuel_Chanel> The result of df -h / is 430M  326M   83M  80% / .
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> And I have /boot partition and /tmp , /var , /usr , and /home volume.
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Those volumes aren't full, either.
[00:15] <Emmanuel_Chanel> So I don't understand my trouble. And I wanna help.
[00:16] <coz_> blognewb,  not sure actually let me search a bit
[00:16] <G00053> how do i find out what the newest version of fglrx is ?
[00:16] <Logan_> !info fglrx | G00053
[00:17] <nuclearworm> can i install ubuntu and choose /cdrom as mount point? what are the problems of doing so?
[00:17] <jfmoraes> hello
[00:17] <coz_> brb
[00:18] <G00053> okaylogan ty
[00:19] <jfmoraes> hi
[00:19] <Logan_> G00053: You're welcome.
[00:20] <jfmoraes> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[00:20] <jfmoraes> is there anyone here
[00:21] <jabagawee> hi
[00:21] <jabagawee> did you need help, jfmoraes?
[00:22] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How can I help my problem?
[00:22] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: your is really 430Mb?
[00:22] <blognewb> Hey guys
[00:22] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Yes.
[00:22] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: / partition
[00:22] <blognewb> what can i use to convert swf to mp4 or other containers??
[00:22] <blognewb> haaalp :(
[00:23] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: well I bet it does run out of space
[00:23] <jabagawee> blognewb, ffmpeg's good
[00:23] <SIFTU> blognewb: ffmpeg, and there are a few frontends
[00:23] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I have /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...
[00:24] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[00:24] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Where is dpkg's buffer?
[00:24] <blognewb> SIFTU jabagawee is there a tute page where a noob like me can use to convert swf->mp4
[00:24] <andreas> I upgraded to 11.04, went to Ubuntu Classic but now under Appereance I can not get into special effects. Anybody knows how to fix?
[00:24] <K4k> blognewb: man ffmpeg
[00:24] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: it' running out of space in /lib and since you dont have a /lib partition it's under /
[00:24] <andreas> My graphics driver is up to date
[00:24] <jabagawee> andreas, instal compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:24] <SIFTU> blognewb: plenty on google
[00:24] <andreas> Is installed
[00:25] <K4k> blognewb: I've good luck finding ffmpeg examples on google too
[00:25] <jabagawee> blognewb, google is your friend
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> How much space do I need?
[00:25] <xangua> andreas: compiz --replace
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I can extend / partition.
[00:25] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use LVM...
[00:26] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: then extend it.. give it a few more GB
[00:26] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, what is the distro?
[00:26] <andreas> I ran compiz --replace but still no options under apperance
[00:26] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Ubuntu 11.04 . So I'm asking this question on this channel.
[00:26] <andreas>  lspci | grep VGA
[00:26] <andreas> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GTS 360M] (rev a2)
[00:26] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I installed it by alternate 64bit CD.
[00:27] <andreas> Usually I would just go under System>Appearnce>Visual Options or something like that and enable extra
[00:27] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, you installed with the alternative and have  /boot , /usr , /var , and /tmp ...
[00:27] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Right.
[00:28] <blognewb> hey is it possible to use and house only one video file format to yield 3 diff container files mp4 webm and ogg for html5 videos or do i have to store static mp4 webm ogg in my server
[00:28] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, personally I don't believe you that is a fedora install.
[00:28] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I was formerly a Fedora user...
[00:29] <Emmanuel_Chanel> The result of dpkg -I linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic_2.6.38-11.50_amd64.deb: Installed-Size: 144684
[00:29] <urlin2u> Emmanuel_Chanel, doesn't matter if I believe though. :D
[00:30] <SIFTU> Emmanuel_Chanel: just extend /
[00:31] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok.
[00:31] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I try.
[00:35] <bfreis> I have "zombie" mounts I want to get rid of, what can I do? I was building an Ubuntu image, so I had to mount /dev, /proc into the chroot environment. Later I unmounted the chroot base dir, but the other mounts remained
[00:36] <jeremy-77> if you have 2 hard drives both 250 gig ide and one is set as master and one is slave and you install ubuntu on the master is it normal for ubuntu to put grub or any other part of boot up on the slave hard drive?  im asking cause after install and then removing second ide slave and setting other drive as single master it has the OS but no boot loader or grub
[00:38] <coz_> jeremy-77,   I have 2 hard drives one with window one with ubuntu...grub is put onto the windows disk by default,, I know you can dictate where it is installed but I would suggest the #grub channel for detailed info on that
[00:38] <jlebar> Hi, all.  I'm a Firefox developer working on wording for a prompt for an upcoming version of Firefox.  I'd like to take a quick straw poll of the channel.  If I told you that I was collecting information about "how you use Firefox", would you be surprised to find out that that includes a list of the extensions you have installed?
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> jlebar: polls are not allowed here
[00:39] <Lithos84> !poll | jlebar
[00:40] <jlebar> Yes, that was definitely the kind of poll I was conducting.  Thanks!
[00:40] <jeremy-77> coz_,  well I do have a folder on the slave drive with several OS iso's so do you think maybe ubuntu installer sees them as existing OS and sets grub up on slave drive ?
[00:41] <coz_> jeremy-77,  it is possible, but I am not up completely with grub2 and its options and defaults,,, I would still suggest checkin with the people in #grub channel :)
[00:41] <jeremy-77> coz_,  thanks
[00:49] <facebump> hey
[00:50] <facebump> I have a very strange touchpad issue that I havent been able to solve...it works for a couple of minutes/seconds after boot, but then it just stops
[00:50] <facebump> I can use a usb mouse, but not the touchpad
[00:53] <Nickel> qin, you still around?
[00:54] <davidf> hi anybody know why I can't run administrative tasks if I'm offline? That seems pretty scary to me. rootkit?
[00:55] <zephyr> Erm...
[00:55] <zephyr> What's the purpose of the "Public" Folder in every user's home directory?
[00:55] <hfsv> lol
[00:56] <oakman> how do i set root password
[00:56] <B0g4r7> zephyr, I think that anything placed in those dirs is accessible via apache running on the hist vie ~username in the url.
[00:56] <urlin2u> oakbox, you don't have to you just need the sudo password.
[00:57] <alexThunder> hi - can anyone help me with pcsxr?
[00:57] <zephyr> oakman: sudo passwd
[00:57] <oakman> but i want to
[00:57] <facebump> oakman, to get a root shell type sudo -i
[00:57] <markus> ciaoo
[00:57] <facebump> anyone know anything about figuring out my synaptic touchpad on 11.10
[00:58] <urlin2u> oakbox, have you had a chance to read this wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:58] <urlin2u> facebump, that would be in #ubuntu+1
[00:58] <zephyr> b0nghittr: You "think"? xD
[00:58] <facebump> cool, ill give that a try, thanks
[00:59] <zephyr> I was going to use that as a directory to host my own website files. I hate to "clutter" my home folder.
[00:59] <zephyr> And I got a very bad habit of doing that.
[01:04] <facebump> zephyr, create a directory in your home folder called public_html
[01:05] <facebump> that is how I have done it in the past
[01:07] <Roasted> I just had a nvidia driver installation go south. now when I fire up this ubuntu box I get nothing. just a balnk screen. Any ideas?
[01:07] <urlin2u> Roasted, you can try the failsafe from recovery for a low graphics.
[01:08] <Roasted> how can I get into that? My only user on this system is set to auto login. :(
[01:08] <Roasted> so I dont have a chance to hit the login screen to change anything
[01:09] <urlin2u> Roasted, there is a recovery boot at the grub menu, tap shift if you never see grub to bring it up at powering on.
[01:10] <urlin2u> Roasted, which distro are you running?
[01:10] <Roasted> 11.04
[01:10] <oakman> what is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI
[01:11] <urlin2u> Roasted, cool the failsafe is in the first gui after choosing the recovery use the arrow keys to scroll to it.
[01:11] <Alpha_Punk> sudoigui
[01:11] <Alpha_Punk> :P
[01:12] <Roasted> urlin2u, recovery mode you mean?
[01:12] <Roasted> oh yeah I see it now
[01:12] <Roasted> the failsafe in the menu
[01:13] <urlin2u> Roasted, if you get to a cli type startx
[01:13] <blognewb> hey do producers have to pay royalty to mpegla if you self h264 videos?
[01:13] <blognewb> sell
[01:14] <urlin2u> blognewb, not a ubuntu issue.
[01:14] <oakman> what is equivalent of "SUDO -i"  in GUI
[01:14] <oakman> anybody know
[01:15] <doofy_> My ubuntu seems to be booting fine, but i can't get the login screen or X to work properly. I can SSH to the machine and open up other terminals on the physical box, but the gui boots in to a solid purple screen
[01:15] <KM0201> oakman: don't think thereis noe.. sudo is designed to be temporary
[01:15] <mateus> oieee
[01:15] <urlin2u> oakbox, the question leaves out to much (gui?)
[01:16] <oakman> KM0201 even temporarily ; how do i  sudo -i  in GUI
[01:17] <hfsv> What is a good media player for ubuntu?
[01:17] <KM0201> oakman: thats my point, sudo -i, is to make a terminal "stay" with root privileges, until you exit it or close the terminal.. to my knowledge, there is no gui equivalent
[01:18] <KM0201> !best | hfsv
[01:18] <Emmanuel_Chanel> SIFTU: My trouble is solved.
[01:18] <coz_> hfsv,  well... xbmc  or depending on which type of media you want to play
[01:18] <KM0201> that's another big part of it.. "media".. is a lot of different stuff
[01:18] <oakman> hmm i just managed to log in as root:  how is this possible: i don't even know what root password is
[01:19] <coz_> oakbox,  you went to the login window and logged in  "root" ?
[01:19] <oakman> yes
[01:19] <coz_> oakbox,  sorry
[01:19] <hfsv> it's mostly video (avi, mp4, etc)
[01:19] <KM0201> !sudo | oakman do some reading
[01:19] <oakman> it even show as "root" on  top-right
[01:19] <coz_> oakman,  did you p ut in a password
[01:19] <oakman> i put password of another user
[01:19] <oakman> i have never set root password
[01:19] <KM0201> some people are their own worst enemy learning linux.
[01:20] <coz_> oakman,  mm something is not right with permissions then...
[01:20] <KM0201> oakman: why are you wanting to login as root anyway?
[01:20] <coz_> oakbox,  to get a root terminal you simply have to type   sudo -i
[01:21] <coz_> oakman,  ^^
[01:21] <coz_> oakbox,  sorry again
[01:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> SIFTU: thx.
[01:21] <eman_> is there a version of samba that works between non-windows machines?
[01:21] <fendur> I am not having luck changing my window manager in 10.04. I've tried a couple settings in gconf-editor and I've tried using the option at the bottom of the gdm login screen. I'm trying to use "dwm" -- a simple window manager. Any tips?
[01:21] <KM0201> eman_: linux and mac both support samba... so.. yes there's  aversion that works between non-windows machiens, its samba
[01:21] <coz_> oakman,  you can also open nautilus  with  gksudo nautilus and  do things as if root
[01:21] <eman_> ie frinstance two ubuntu boxes
[01:22] <coz_> fendur,  its likely you have to log off and after putting in your password before hitting enter,, change the session to dwm
[01:22] <KM0201> eman_: for two linux users, you can use NFS, or just use samba
[01:22] <eman_> but not for file shareing from ubuntu
[01:22] <eman_> cannot use samba for two linux users
[01:22] <coz_> fendur,  you could also try in terminal  dwm --replac & disown
[01:22] <KM0201> eman_: lol, yes you can
[01:23] <coz_> fendur,  rather    dwm --replace & disown
[01:23] <fendur> coz: odd. dwm doesn't have a --replace. I'
[01:23] <fendur> ll try the login method you propose.
[01:23] <coz_> fendur,  then log off and try changing the session to dwm
[01:23] <eman_> km0201 what version
[01:23] <KM0201> eman_: what verson of what?
[01:23] <eman_> linux/samba
[01:23] <eman_> work
[01:23] <KM0201> any/any
[01:24] <eman_> wrong wrong
[01:24] <eman_> not nautilus
[01:24] <KM0201> eman_: lol, ok.. i'm not gonna argue with you, but you have no clue
[01:24] <KM0201> eman_: i didn't say anything about nautilus
[01:24] <eman_> trying to share in nautilus gives samba errors
[01:24] <fendur> coz_: I had no luck with that. I chose my user, typed password, changed the wm option to dwm, and pressed enter.
[01:25] <Roasted> dang, I'm still getting white screens instead of the screensaver
[01:25] <KM0201> eman_: then you probably don't know what you're doing, thats the only thing i can figure, because it works fine
[01:25] <coz_> fendur,  then you may have to check online about this,, I have not used dwm  so I may have it all wrong
[01:25] <eman_> what versisons
[01:25] <eman_> 10.10 does not
[01:25] <fendur> coz_: thank you.
[01:25] <KM0201> eman_: i keep trying to tell you, it doesn't matter, and yes it does
[01:25] <coz_> fendur,  let me search ,, hold on
[01:26] <ruconse> ubuntu, anyone knows the sftp protocol version 4, does Linux support it?
[01:26] <Roasted> Has anybody else experienced random white screens on ubuntu 11.04?
[01:26] <IdleOne> KM0201 eman_ stop arguing about what works/doesn't work and figure out what the actual issue is. eman_ what error are you getting?
[01:26] <KM0201> Roasted: ATI
[01:26] <eman_> ahh you must lead a charmed life
[01:26] <chalcedony> Roasted, i have yet to enjoy that bug, but so far 11.04 has had others
[01:26] <Roasted> KM0201, nvidia
[01:26] <eman_> just a sec
[01:26] <KM0201> IdleOne: i'm not arguing, he's telling me it doesn't work, and i know better
[01:26] <Roasted> chalcedony, yeah, considering htis is just for a HTPC, I'm thinking 10.04 might be safer.
[01:27] <Roasted> it'll just auto login and auto launch XBMC anyway...
[01:27] <IdleOne> KM0201: I know you know better, this is why I am asking you to get to the actual issue :)
[01:27] <fendur> coz_: i'd love to hear what you find. I certainly have looked. A lot of the advise doesn't seem possible due to various differences between instructions and what I see here on my desktop.
[01:27] <Roasted> chalcedony, just saddens me I run into something like this to begin with.
[01:27] <chalcedony> Roasted, 10.10 was much better than either 10.04 or 11.04
[01:27] <KM0201> IdleOne: well, i hav an issue w/ someone telling me i'm wrong, when they are asking me for help (and i know otherwise)
[01:27] <SetiAmon> So I ripped pulse/alsa off and installed oss4 to see if that resolves sound issues
[01:27] <Roasted> chalcedony, disagree. but to each his own.
[01:27] <SetiAmon> well sound is better...But how do i controll volume now
[01:27] <oakman> how do i log in as root
[01:28] <IdleOne> oakman: use sudo
[01:28] <eman_> how tp past w/o flood?
[01:28] <oakman> idleone that's no what i asked
[01:28] <IdleOne> !paste
[01:28] <dr_willis> Roasted:  im finding 11.10 working better for my Nvidia system then 10.04 or 11.04 did. :)   which is good news.
[01:28] <IdleOne> oakman: Ubuntu does not support logging in as root
[01:28] <Roasted> dr_willis, nice, nice. I wonder if 11.10 is safe enough to install on a HTPC... but considering its just a HTPC... I suppose it cant be bad?
[01:29] <Roasted> dr_willis, after all, can't I update 11.10 if I go that route to be 100% current when its finally released? or would I have to do a fresh install?
[01:29] <eman_> like that one
[01:29] <dr_willis> Roasted:  for now. theres going go be quite a few updates  untill its released. You canupgrade yes.
[01:29] <Roasted> I wonder if that would be smarter than 10.04 or trying to fix 11.04....
[01:29] <oakman> idleone i just logged in as root:  why do you have to lie
[01:29] <IdleOne> oakman: lie?
[01:29] <urlin2u> oakbox, where?
[01:29] <IdleOne> oakman: how did you log in as root?
[01:29] <coz_> fendur,  did you see this?    http://aclindsay.com/blog/2011/04/installing-dwm-and-killing-gdm-on-ubuntu/
[01:29] <Roasted> dr_willis, okay. I wasn't sure if I had to wait till a certain stage to upgrade it as the final edition though.
[01:29] <dr_willis> oakman:  Ubuntu does not have direct logging in as root enabled by default.
[01:29] <urlin2u> oakman, where?
[01:29] <oakman> i just typed username "root"
[01:30] <dr_willis> oakman:  then you are using some tweaked/changed ubuntu sounds like.
[01:30] <lmnop> oakman, you iinstalled Ubuntu?
[01:30] <oakman> dr_willis i did not change anything
[01:30] <lmnop> for your XFS?
[01:30] <coz_> fendur,  you might also want to   sudo apt-get install dwm-tools
[01:30] <oakman> lmnop yes , i just tried copying to xfs partition; it did not work
[01:31] <lmnop> oakman, hmm...  that actually surprises me
[01:31] <eman_> there are bug reports all over the place
[01:31] <SetiAmon> anyone here using OSS4??
[01:31] <eman_> solutions don't work
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: Do you want help or to complain?
[01:32] <zephyr> What's really the purpose of   /home/<user>/Public         ???
[01:32] <lmnop> oss4 is great if your app can use it
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: what errors are you getting?
[01:32] <dr_willis> zephyr:  for a Public samba share I would guess.
[01:32] <lmnop> SetiAmon, ^^
[01:32] <eman_> i did a ubuntu pastebin
[01:32] <fendur> coz_: no. but the way he describes it, it just worked. Other discussion involves not booting to gdm at all (i.e. startup with a basic console login)
[01:32] <Seanmc98> FF ?DCC SEND “ff???f??????????????” 0 0 0
[01:32] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[01:32] <IdleOne> eman_: what is the url?
[01:33] <coz_> fendur,  understood...as I said I know little about this,, have you looked into xmonad?
[01:33] <eman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694897/
[01:33] <lmnop> oakman, is the XFS partition mounted?
[01:34] <edinny> having problems finding acroread on natty AMD64 system
[01:34] <fendur> coz_: i just looked it up. Looks like an interesting alternative.
[01:34] <fendur> coz_: thanks for your help.
[01:35] <sdz> how do you install the bios into ubuntu's file manager?
[01:35] <coz_> fendur,  no problem,, I do know of several people  w ho prefer xmonad
[01:35] <eman_> didn't mean to make people mad was lookin for solution
[01:35] <oakman> lmnop  yes
[01:35] <edinny> any idea how to install Adobe reader on
[01:35] <KM0201> eman_: can you post the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:35] <edinny> any idea how to install Adobe reader on Natty AMD 64 sytem?
[01:36] <eman_> sure
[01:37] <eman_> what is that url again
[01:37] <IdleOne> paste.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <eman_> 694899/
[01:39] <mozilla-help> Why do I not see the firefox acroread plugins in Synaptic on Hardy? I had to downgrade a system to Hardy due to video card problems and now need to get acrobat hyperlinks to display in FF...I do have Multiverse/Universe/Medibuntu installed
[01:39] <KM0201> is it that hard to paste a clickable URL?
[01:40] <eman_> goin to other ubuntu machine bbiab
[01:43] <lmnop> oakman, please restate your concern in the channel here i have to run, and i'm usre someone can help with this
[01:45] <Dreamer3> how can i get gzcat?
[01:45] <KM0201> !info gzcat
[01:46] <Dreamer3> it's part of the gzip package on my mac i think
[01:46] <dr_willis> !find gzcat
[01:46] <Shirakawasuna> anyone here ever tried a system76 laptop? You actually get a lot of hardware for the money, I just wonder about reliability compare to my usual thinkpads
[01:46] <Dreamer3> interesting
[01:46] <Shirakawasuna> (I'm hoping this is on-topic as they're ubuntu-centered laptops)
[01:47] <dr_willis> They just take other brand laptops and redo them i thought. so check reviews for the original brand.
[01:47] <dr_willis> Ive heard they do good work. been looking at them myself.
[01:48] <Dreamer3> gunzip -c will work
[01:48] <dr_willis> :) bbl
[01:49] <itaylor57> Shirakawasuna, I have a lemur2 from system76, I like it alot
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> itaylor57: cool. Has it lasted long/needed repair?
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> dr_willis: so this laptop is presumably made by a different company and rebranded? http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=114
[01:50] <itaylor57> Shirakawasuna, I have had it for one year, no problems so far
[01:50] <eman_> 694901
[01:50] <Shirakawasuna> itaylor57: cool
[01:51] <KM0201> eman_: at least post the whole link.. that's pure laziness on your part
[01:51] <eman_> several bug reports  i tried several blog solutions nada
[01:51] <Shirakawasuna> bah, gotta go
[01:51] <eman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694901/
[01:51] <Shirakawasuna> but I'll read anything anyone says about it when i get back!
[01:51] <KM0201> eman_: well, first, there no entry in your smb.conf for any shares.. so it's logical that samba is not sharing anything
[01:52] <eman_> umm
[01:52] <eman_> two diff computers
[01:52] <eman_> this last from other computer
[01:52] <eman_> i had to email it to myself
[01:52] <KM0201> eman_: well, on the "other computer".. your smb.conf, has no shared path.
[01:53] <eman_> oooooooooook
[01:53] <eman_> and the fix is
[01:53] <SetiAmon> I may just revert to jaunty
[01:53] <SetiAmon> i never had any problems with jaunty really.
[01:54] <xangua> jaunty is no loger supported ;) good luck
[01:54] <xangua> longer*
[01:55] <GreekFreak> Hi. Does anyone know why  Ubuntu will succesfully install the first few times on one machine, and then no intall (on the same machine) due to graphics drivers?
[01:55] <SetiAmon> is there a reason I can't use jaunty?what would i be missing if i reverted back to jaunty instead of the latest?unity? any real mixxing pieces
[01:55] <SetiAmon> grub2?
[01:55] <chipmonk> I am eman on other computer
[01:57] <chipmonk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694904/
[01:57] <KM0201> eman_: this is the smb.conf for my NAS --- look at the very end of this file..  http://pastebin.com/wAdhb0p8
[01:58] <SetiAmon> Jaunty has no more support but frankly everything since jaunty has been a joke.if it works why fix it?boredom
[01:58] <oakman> xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/2
[01:58] <oakman> xfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument
[01:58] <oakman> why am i getting errors here
[02:02] <Superdave_> having trouble with ssh. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?
[02:03] <chipmonk> hmmm KM0201 (eman)
[02:04] <KM0201> chipmonk: like i said, i don't know what you're doing.. but.. setting up a samba share is not difficult.
[02:04] <KM0201> chipmonk: if you want private help w/ setting it up, it should be fairly easy, sendm e a PM and we'll go over it
[02:04] <chipmonk> just not with nautilus
[02:05] <KM0201> chipmonk: no real need to use nautilus..
[02:05] <chipmonk> what then nfs
[02:05] <KM0201> chipmonk: if ou can't figure out samba, it's unlikely ou'l figure out NFS (i've never personally messed w/ NFS)
[02:06] <chipmonk> hehe you get my point
[02:06] <chipmonk> i can get into windows machine
[02:06] <chipmonk> windows cannot see ubuntu
[02:06] <chipmonk> ubuntu cannot see ubuntu
[02:06] <KM0201> chipmonk: windows can't see ubuntu, because samba is not setup, i don't know how many other ways to tell you that
[02:07] <steve-moz> Why do I not see mozilla-acroread in Hardy? I have medibuntu/partner/multiverse/universe repos enabled...?
[02:07] <fendur> coz_: for the record, I got it to work by switching to xdm and using it's simple mechanism for WM choice of modifying ~/.Xsession
[02:07] <coz_> fendur,  excellent ! :)  glad to hear that
[02:07] <oakman> xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/2
[02:07] <oakman> xfs_rtcp: set attributes on /mnt/2/1.mpg failed: Invalid argument
[02:07] <oakman> why am i getting errors here
[02:08] <xangua> !info acroread hardy | steve-moz
[02:11] <fendur> coz_: thanks again.
[02:11] <coz_> fendur,  no problem
[02:12] <george_> I just deleted the files in my downloads folder in my home directory, is there a way I can undelete them, and no they're not in the trash
[02:13] <steve-moz> i think someone was trying to help me but my computer froze...another problem I am dealing with. Anyway, I am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?
[02:15] <sam555> how do you figure out what your wifi card is in ubuntu netbook?
[02:15] <george_> sam555, open terminal and do sudo ifconfig
[02:21] <steve-moz> I am looking for mozilla-acroread for Hardy...why is it not in medi/multi/universe/partner/backports?
[02:23] <Phr3d13> trying to find a program/terminal command to convert avis to a 3gp or 3g2 format compatible with my phone (Samsung messager II - SCH-R560)
[02:24] <fmonroy> Gimp single window mode http://aceptarocancelar.blogspot.com/2011/09/gimp-single-window-mode.html
[02:25] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: ffmpeg can do it
[02:25] <Phr3d13> every time i try ffmepg, mencoder, etc when i put the output file on my phone it says file not supported
[02:28] <angel56> Phr3d13: ffmpeg is the answer to your question. If it isn't doing the job for you, maybe you should be asking a different question
[02:31] <yixuan> Hello everyone, need urgent help !!! last night I want to upgrade my natty to 11.10 beta1, but it failed, or is not full downloaded.
[02:31] <yixuan> today I cannot see my gnome desktop
[02:32] <yixuan> even worse, I use apt-get dist-upgrade, so update-manager will be promt message "cannot upgrade from onenic to natty"
[02:32] <yixuan> how can I do right now?
[02:32] <SetiAmon> excuse me
[02:33] <SetiAmon> what would be the harm in returning to jaunty?
[02:33] <IdleOne> SetiAmon: it's no longer supported
[02:36] <Corey> yixuan: Can you get a shell working?
[02:36] <yixuan> can anyone help me? how to resolve 11.10 upgrade failed?
[02:38] <Corey> yixuan: Or don't answer, that works too I guess?
[02:39] <Superdave_> having trouble with ssh server. I get a connection refused error when accessing from outside, but i'm fine inside. Port is forwarded, and everything seems to be in order. any ideas?
[02:39] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Have you checked your sshd_config file?
[02:40] <steve-Lock> If my Hardy install is randomly freezing (happens intermittently when installing software or launching programs), where do I look to find the cause of the freeze?
[02:41] <Superdave_> rypervenche: I have, and there's nothing there that seems out of the ordinary... What should I look for?
[02:41] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Do you have PasswordAuthentication on?
[02:41] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Or are you only using keys?
[02:42] <Superdave_> rypervenche: no, I use a password
[02:42] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Is PasswordAuthentication set to yes?
[02:42] <zephyr> Anyone here by any chance use IRC on Empathy messenger?
[02:43] <maxtmahem> Okay I'm going crazy somebody is calling me though gtalk (I'm using empathy) and the dang thing is rinigng and ringing, but I can't figure out how to answer it!
[02:43] <Xeneth> how do you "address the recipient"?  I see it done, don't know the syntax.
[02:43] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Still sounds like a port forwarding issue if you can do it on your local network.
[02:43] <Superdave_> rypervenche: Yeah, but it's forwarded in my router...
[02:44] <zephyr> Xeneth: Try this, double click on the person's name who is calling you.       Then in that personal IM-window, click on Contact and see if an option for answering is thee.
[02:44] <kristina> hey guys, how can I log in as root without sudo and logging in with the user account?
[02:44] <rypervenche> Superdave_: pastebin your sshd_config pleaes
[02:45] <zephyr> kristina: Wait wait. Pause & Stop... When you mention "the user account", do you mean root?
[02:45] <zephyr> Or your own personal account?
[02:45] <Superdave_> rypervenche: ok. how do I pastebin
[02:46] <netyire> kristna: yes, but that would defeat much of the in-built security measures
[02:46] <rypervenche> Superdave_: pastebin.com
[02:46] <kristina> zephr, no, I want to log in as root, not my personal account.
[02:46] <Xeneth> zephyr, I am using Xchat.  Double click does nothing.  I see "Xeneth:  ..." when you address me, and it does show red.  is there a syntax for that, or do I just have to put the name with colon?
[02:46] <netyire> kristina: it isn't a good idea, sudo is much better, but if you want type 'su' and enter the password to become root
[02:47] <netyire> or grant yourself superuser privileges under the users & groups settings
[02:47] <kristina> I want to directly log into root without using sudo or su.
[02:47] <netyire> good luck, may the force watch over you...
[02:47] <Loshki> kristina: why do you need to login *directly* as root?
[02:48] <Superdave_> rypervenche: http://pastebin.com/EHhsfPLN
[02:48] <Xeneth> kristina:  Not a good Idea, but to do it, you need to assign root a password first, then you log in like normal.
[02:48] <zephyr> kristina: You are better off doing the following. 1st. Open up terminal. 2nd. Type in this command: su               <----- You're only then asked for root password once and then you can do any command from there.
[02:48] <kristina> Loshki, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted
[02:49] <BluebirdShao> my Ubuntu running VMware 8 is so slowly.
[02:49] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to output a file with the better of the two settings?
[02:49] <luchenbill> is there a known issue for usb not working with a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04?
[02:49] <luchenbill> I have been searching with no luck
[02:49] <rickup> BluebirdShao, I ditched VMWare for VirtualBox about 2 years ago and never looked back

[02:49] <zephyr> Logging in as "root" as you would with your "Personal user account" is a horrible idea as mentioned previously Xeneth and others.
[02:49] <rypervenche> Superdave_: comment out the ListenAddress
[02:50] <rypervenche> Superdave_: Then "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[02:50] <maxtmahem> BluebirdShao: Ditto, I pretty much hate Oracle, but VirtualBox is pretty good.
[02:50] <zephyr> BluebirdShao: How much ram you got? I suggest VirtualBox
[02:50] <rickup> I pretty much hate Oracle too
[02:50] <kristina> Xeneth, Zephr, i deleted some files in my home folder and now I'm trying to use extundelete to undelete files and i need to keep sda5 unmounted
[02:50] <BluebirdShao> rickup: I wanna try windows 8, so it must install VMware 8.
[02:50] <Loshki> kristina: Tricky. You'll need to do as Xeneth said, then...
[02:50] <jrib> Superdave_, rypervenche: should use service command instead of /etc/init.d
[02:50] <Xeneth> zephyr:  Thus the "bad Idea" I added.   Thanks.
[02:51] <rypervenche> Superdave_: So yeah, run "sudo service ssh restart"
[02:52] <kristina> jrib, how do I start up recovery mode, use the recovery kernel?
[02:52] <zephyr> BluebirdShao: That's more than enough. See.            (I only have 1GB here).
[02:52] <Loshki> kristina: absolutely not. By default, you cannot login as root on Ubuntu...
[02:52] <jrib> kristina: it's an option at the grub selection screen (you can see the grub screen by holding shift during boot)
[02:52] <zephyr> Virtualbox is what I use and it's not slow.
[02:52] <Xeneth> Root by default is inactive".  Root comands are normally done by a superuser with the "sudo" command.  AKA: sudo chown user folder/
[02:52] <Superdave_> rypervenche: ok. how the freak do I get vim to edit.
[02:53] <jrib> Superdave_: use nano if vim is too awesome for you ;)
[02:53] <kristina> Okay, thanks Zephr, Xeneth, and jrib.
[02:53] <luchenbill> I just installed 11.04 and none of my usb ports are now working :|
[02:54] <oakman> s there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum
[02:54] <luchenbill> I have been googling this issue but only see help for 10.04
[02:54] <Superdave_> jrib: Hey, now... :P
[02:54] <zephyr> rypervenche: I like nano more than vim anyway.
[02:54] <luchenbill> oops
[02:54] <luchenbill> :D
[02:55] <Xeneth> nano is easy to understand, closer to commen wordprocessers.
[02:55] <dt_flys> zephyr: really? is nano good than vim or gvim?
[02:55] <oakman> is there a md5sum utility but faster than md5sum
[02:55] <MikeChelen> !best
[02:56] <Phr3d13> luchenbill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816398
[02:56] <Phr3d13> figures
[02:56] <jrib> oakman: why?
[02:57] <oakman> jrib md5sum is too slow for big files
[02:57] <Superdave_> rypervenche: Got the service restarted, but still getting the connection refused error
[02:57] <rickup> I uninstall Windows 7 on all new machines and install Ubuntu + VirtualBox + (The client's old)  Windows XP
[02:57] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?
[02:57] <rypervenche> Superdave_: You sure you changed it? You did "sudo nano" or "sudo gedit" ?
[02:58] <Superdave_> Yep. Sure
[02:58] <jrib> oakman: does it need to be md5?
[02:58] <oakman> jrib no, but does something similar
[02:58] <Phr3d13> if using a gui program aren't you supposed to use gksudo?
[02:58] <rypervenche> Superdave_: What is the command you are doing?
[02:58] <eman_> i forgot your handle (chipmonk)
[02:59] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: You don't have to. It only changes where you input your password. sudo inputs it into the terminal, while gksudo opens a window for you to type it in.
[02:59] <Phr3d13> i thought there was more behind the scenes magic :-)
[03:00] <Superdave_> rypervenche: "ssh username@publicaddress" (censored, of course)
[03:01] <jrib> oakman: googling a bit someone said md5deep is faster but mostly I found people saying the bottleneck was I/O, not the md5sum program.  I must go now though, good night
[03:02] <Superdave_> rypervenche: if it helps at all, my goal is to do dynamic tunneling
[03:03] <Phr3d13> which of these video formats is better? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/screenshotkrwe.png/ and what is the command for ffmpeg to convert a file to the better of the two settings?
[03:04] <Xeneth> zeph
[03:04] <rypervenche> Phr3d13: Go with the one on the right I suppose.
[03:05] <UnrealPancake> hello
[03:05] <zephyr> Xeneth: Okay, try the first 5 letters then. xD
[03:05] <Phr3d13> ok, any ideas what the command should look like?
[03:05] <Loshki> oakman: come to think of it, what do you mean by 'too slow'? How big are 'big files', and why what's your hurry?
[03:05] <Xeneth> zephyr, got it.  :)
[03:05] <zephyr> Xeneth: (What happens is that, sometimes, other people may have names that are spelled alike).
[03:05] <UnrealPancake> I need help Dual Booting / Installing Ubuntu With Windows 7 64-bit. would anybody be willing to help?
[03:06] <zephyr> So in case, you might have to hit tab again.
[03:06] <rypervenche> Superdave_: The only things I can think of that would be preventing you from being able to SSH into your system would be your config file and your firewall.
[03:06] <zephyr> And again until the correct name appears.
[03:06] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, is windows already installed?
[03:06] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: yes.
[03:06] <Xeneth> zephyr, There just was no indication that it was differant then all the other text I sent.  I'm good now.  Thanks agian.
[03:07] <Superdave_> rypervenche: is there a system firewall that would be blocking it? because I don't have one anywhere else...
[03:09] <h0sting> someone tells me how to set up an FTP
[03:09] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, reboot with the disc in the drive, follow the prompts, if ya get stuck and have something to browse the web, http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[03:09] <h0sting> My ftp interprets .php file I need to save
[03:10] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I dont have a disk
[03:10] <Phr3d13> have you had success booting from usb device before?
[03:11] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I do not know, I have dual booted My Desktop With Windows XP and Ubuntu, but I am trying it on my brand new laptop
[03:12] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Have you verified that the service is listening to the correct port with netstat?
[03:12] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: so I dont know for sure if it will boot from a USB drive
[03:12] <Phr3d13> do you have a blank cd/dvd?
[03:12] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: no. But I have a 4 GB USB
[03:12] <Superdave_> Xeneth: It probably is, but give me the process for netstat just so I can be sure
[03:13] <Phr3d13> do you have the ubuntu iso?
[03:13] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: no.
[03:13] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Use this software tomake your USB drive bootable:   unetbootin             You can apt-get it/download it from their website.    This works for mr.
[03:13] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: actually I DOnt Know
[03:13] <Xeneth> Superdave_, sorry, A noob at linux myself.  I know the command in windows but not on a linux machine.
[03:13] <Xeneth> Superdave_, I just know it's netstat
[03:13] <Phr3d13> ubuntu.com, download from whatever option best suits your needs
[03:14] <UnrealPancake> I did
[03:14] <UnrealPancake> I chose 2 different options and both options arent fully allowing me
[03:14] <Loshki> Superdave_: try: netstat -an
[03:14] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: If you have like 800GB of free space on that drive. You should move ALL your files to a single folder on USB drive.   Before making your usb Bootable. (In case you're lazy to actually want to format).
[03:15] <Superdave_> Loshki: k, what am I looking for for ssh?
[03:15] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: why?
[03:16] <Loshki> Superdave_: a line like this: tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[03:16] <zephyr> Superdave_: Don't feel "low" on yourself. I don't know the commands either.    When I need help with linux, I usually google up for commands to use in terminal.          You should by now be familar with the   cd       command in windows.         You can do the same thing in linux.
[03:16] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, thought you want to install ubuntu or at least test it out from USB flash drive.
[03:17] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I want to Dual Install Ubuntu with windows 7
[03:18] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Can you connect from inside the network?
[03:19] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, ah that's still do-able. All it takes is one USB drive with at least 800-1G of free space.
[03:19] <Phr3d13> once done downloading, mount the iso with a virtual drive software, navigate to the "drive" in explorer and find "usb-creator.exe", follow prompts, wait, then follow previous instructions
[03:19] <Xeneth> Superdave_, remeber you saying you where using port forwarding on a router
[03:19] <Superdave_> Xeneth: yep. The port is forwarded in my router too, and It doesn't make any sense why this wouldn't work...
[03:19] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I have about 600 GB free on my HDD and a 4 GB flsh drive
[03:19] <UnrealPancake> how do I do it?
[03:19] <TeeAl> Just had one of those WTF moments where I accidentaly ran "mke2fs /dev/sda1" (windows NTFS partition) instead of "mke2fs /dev/sdb1" (flash drive). I can still read the partition content, though it wont boot. what now?
[03:20] <Xeneth> Superdave_, So if it connects from inside the network, it's on the router.  Does the router have SSH setup too?
[03:20] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, did you see my instructions?
[03:21] <tsukasa_> has anyone done bash autocompletion before and looking for some freelance stuff? figured i'd ask in here before hiring someone from china
[03:21] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/                  <----- That software will  put "ubuntu"      inside your  USB flash drive.          When you turn on your computer, you can ask it to boot from your USB flash  drive.
[03:21] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did. But I dont have a CD
[03:21] <wildbat> !recovery | TeeAI try testdisk/photorec.
[03:21] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, read the rest of my instructions
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: about the ubuntu.com and download
[03:22] <wildbat> !undelete| oops this one ,TeeAl
[03:22] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Maybe... It's a cisco small business router, so It may be that advanced, but I don't use it... You think I should try a different port?
[03:22] <SetiAmon> wHAT WAS THE
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I have downloaded 3 different things
[03:22] <UnrealPancake> none helped
[03:22] <SetiAmon> what was the shortcut for a filename in terminal like shift or tab or something?
[03:22] <bastidrazor> !tab > SetiAmon
[03:23] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Worth a shot.  I use a Cisco 810 at home, and I had to change the public port to get it working.  That's why I thought of it.
[03:23] <SetiAmon> Weird tab isn't completing filename in terminal
[03:23] <TeeAl> wildbat: I have the file content fully readable, it's just unbootable and shown as an ext2 partition in /etc/mtab
[03:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: which one should I pick for the distribution?
[03:23] <bsmith093> !tab bsmith093
[03:24] <Xeneth> Superdave_, May be the Cisco that is refusing because it's not setup.
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> I have a 64 bit comp
[03:24] <TeeAl> wildbat: *blkid
[03:24] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Ok. Thanks. We'll see if that works :P Do you have a suggested port range that I should try?
[03:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake,             You download Ubuntu  (It's an ISO/CD).         You do have to burn it.              Unetbootin will extract the .ISO you downloaded and put it on your flash drive.               (Yes, it's like burning onto Flashdrive but that's not the appropriate TERM to say).
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Ivhave a 64 bit comp
[03:24] <Phr3d13> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download          select 64 bit, hit start download, while waiting for download, read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed
[03:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake,                     Then pick the    64bit version.
[03:24] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did that link already
[03:24] <Phr3d13> afk
[03:25] <Xeneth> Superdave_, Just don't overlap, otherwise, it does not matter.  Maybe 202, 222, 2222, ect.  That way it's easier to remember.
[03:25] <TeeAl> maybe if there was some way to convert it back to ntfs and reverse the process somehow
[03:25] <Phr3d13> read the rest of the page, clicking the show me how's if needed
[03:25] <Loshki> TeeAl: copy the data somewhere safe before you begin messing with the partition. Worst case, you may have to reinstall windows from scratch...
[03:25] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: 11.04 live? net install? hd media?
[03:25] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I tried
[03:26] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: 10.04 Live.
[03:26] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?
[03:26] <wildbat> TeeAI of coz it won't boot. ~ if you can still mount it as NTFS and read , back it up as needed , use testdisk change the partition type back to NTFS. or else backup the data and reformat to ntfs then restore the data.
[03:27] <TeeAl> wildbat: It gets auto-mounted as ext2
[03:27] <TeeAl> and everything is there
[03:27] <TeeAl> that's the weird thing about it
[03:28] <k1dd1saster> yoo
[03:28] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, make yours look like mine http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/screenshot1wo.png/    then click the big orange start download button
[03:28] <wildbat> TeeAI, that's strange. try manually mount as NTFS (readonly first), see if any errors.
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: ok
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: but whats the difference between 10.04 and 11.04?
[03:29] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Mainly, the UNITY/Gnome3 shell/setup.                        Ubuntu Classic (Gnome 2).  http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/Taan4vBrjGI/AAAAAAAAD9w/mJIWXge_bo0/11.04classic-session.png                                                    and                      Ubuntu Unity(Gnome 3-ish but not really gnome):     http://static.arstechnica.com/unity-multi-selector.png
[03:29] <ljsoftnet> how do i uninstall dockbarx?
[03:29] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did that already. I have the files downloaded
[03:30] <TeeAl> wildbat: oh wait, my bad. since last reboot they switched. it is indeed marked as ntfs.
[03:30] <Phr3d13> 10.04 os older but LTS (Long Term Support), 11.04 newer, some stuff could possibly be buggy
[03:30] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: In Ubuntu 11.04, you can use Gnome Classic in case you do not like Default Ubuntu Unity.
[03:30] <Phr3d13> UnrealPancake, click the show me how next to step 2, if you're still having issues ask
[03:31] <UnrealPancake> Phr3d13: I did.
[03:31] <Superdave_> Xeneth: Thanks. i'll try that.
[03:31] <TeeAl> wildbat: from your experience, do you think switching it to ntfs using testdisk would do the trick?
[03:31] <wildbat> TeeAI, good then, repair the partition in partition to ntfs with testdisk, and repair bootsect if needed.
[03:32] <luchenbill> is it possible to install a chroot to run a lamp server in?
[03:32] <TeeAl> wildbat: will do. thank you very, very much!
[03:32] <Xeneth> UnrealPancake, To be expected, but 11.04 uses more resources.  My old laptop could not work with it, so the age/power of the computer should be considered.
[03:33] <wildbat> TeeAl: if it mount w/o error it should be fine. thou ~ data up important data is better. chkdsk in windows after that.
[03:33] <UnrealPancake> I have a brand new ASUS U46E
[03:33] <r3m> Hi all, is it normal that my ubuntu 10.04 do not use the bottom bar to put open windows? i need to alt+tab to see the opened windows
[03:33] <UnrealPancake> I have a brand new ASUS U46E - Xeneth
[03:33] <zephyr> luchenbill: ISPConfig server has that feature. Yes it uses Linux (Ubuntu I'm assuming you want to use),  Yes it has Apache, Mysql and PHP.      ISPconfig as I know uses CHroot.
[03:34] <luchenbill> zephyr yeah, i just installed 11.04 and I have never heard my computer run so quietly lol
[03:34] <zephyr> luchenbill: Actually.  ISPconfig is not a server, but it's a Control Panel for a server. (They expect you to install ISP config on a fresh newly made server).
[03:34] <luchenbill> and I wanted to do some local php development, without risk of getting pwned
[03:34] <wildbat> r3m: by default no, you may have removed the panel. add the Window List back or !resetpanel.
[03:35] <r3m> wildbat: thanks
[03:35] <Xeneth> UnrealPancake, In that case, it's mostly up to preference. My suggestion is to make a live CD of both, and test each.  When you decide, it's simply a matter or installing from the disk.
[03:35] <zephyr> luchenbill: Lol, is it your personal computer? You should have to worry about getting pwned. xD
[03:35] <r3m> !resetpanel r3m
[03:35] <UnrealPancake> Xeneth:  k
[03:35] <r3m> !resetpanel
[03:36] <luchenbill> haha yeah it's my personal computer
[03:36] <zephyr> luchenbill, In fact, I can be as open with security all I want, a person shouldn't have to worry unless it's a public server that is NOT inside your House. O_O
[03:36] <r3m> wildbat: thanks a lot!
[03:36] <luchenbill> well, there are ways to break out of chroot anyways no?
[03:37] <zephyr> luchenbill, now to not get pwned. You follow simple common security  tips.   Like "Don't share passwords, set proper file & directory permissions".
[03:37] <luchenbill> yeah i'm not worried about local security, just remote
[03:37] <zephyr> luchenbill: Here is what I'm doing "Right now".  I'm using: LiteSpeedTech.      http://www.litespeedtech.com/         Basically, apache/php on crack.
[03:38] <luchenbill> awesome i'll look into that!
[03:38] <zephyr> luchenbill, do you have people accessing your computer? Why not just use router security?     If no body knows your IP/host, there should be no worries.
[03:39] <luchenbill> well I mean i'm here on irc with my ip exposed etc. i'm paranoid I guess :|
[03:39] <r3m> I always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted
[03:39] <luchenbill> I guess I need to study some router security techniques :)
[03:39] <zephyr> luchenbill, if you do not like litespeed.           What I used to do is this:        Apt-get mysql               apt-get phpmyadmin                   THEN THEN I just start developing some test-php scripts so I can later upload it to my real website and go live.
[03:40] <zephyr> luchenbill, I doubt anyone would be interested in hacking you. o_O
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> I am on dual boot with Windiws XP and ubuntu. Sometimes when i restart ubuntu, i observe that ubuntu shows large fonts and is not able to detect display monitor, it labels it "Unknown" in System > Preferences > Monitors. After restarting many times it still don't detect it. But when i shut it down and remove power cables for five minutes and restart it again, it display normal graphics and rightly shows the name of my Display monit
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> or in System > Preferences > Monitors.
[03:40] <luchenbill> zephyr, yeah except the millions of irc drone bots etc. :|
[03:40] <Legend_Xeon> Why so?
[03:40] <zephyr> luchenbill: I would ONLY worry about that if my scripts goes to a live server. (Like x10hosting.com where I host my website at).
[03:41] <Xeneth> luchenbill, Your IP is alway's out on the INTERNET, so it's nothing big.  If you want to hide it, it's easy to setup a proxy.
[03:41] <ljsoftnet> how do i remove dockbarx?
[03:42] <TeeAl> wildbat: partition seems okay really, nothing to change much. how do I fix the boot sector?
[03:42] <luchenbill> xeneth, yeah my point exactly... I was just curious if running a lamp server environment inside a chroot was a smart way to avoid being hacked from some open port/services
[03:42] <zephyr> luchenbill, SO yeah, I doubt a handful of people knows your  IP and tries to access your computer.      So for now just get         litespeed        (While you starting fresh, it's a good idea to learn how to use litespeed).
[03:42] <luchenbill> i'm new to ubuntu/unix/linux so I have many questions really :)
[03:43] <wildbat> TeeAl: testdisk have that option too. or bootsect.exe or fixmbr in windows recover CD.
[03:43] <luchenbill> zephyr yes it looks awesome, thanks for the advice :)
[03:43] <zephyr> luchenbill, to be very honest, I do NOT know a lot about chroot.                   I'm no security Expert. But I know chroot is suppose to  lock people in a  Certain directory. It treats that Certain directory as a "root directory" where it's the furtest a person can go.
[03:44] <luchenbill> yeah I was reading up on it, it's something like a sandbox etc.
[03:44] <luchenbill> only for linux
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball: yo
[03:44] <KNUBBIG_> k1dd1saster: A question please.
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> A question please.
[03:44] <DanF> k1dd1saster: A question please.
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> stop
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball: Am i cool?
[03:44] <KNUBBIG_> k1dd1saster: 8-ball says: Yes definitely
[03:44] <k1dd1saster> 8-ball says: Most likely
[03:44] <DanF> k1dd1saster: 8-ball says: My sources say no
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ops
[03:45] <zephyr> Even If I knew about this and a lot about "THAT", I wouldn't invest my time learning how to do that.         I would just want to set up an http server with PHP, and get my mysql going and thats it.
[03:45] <luchenbill> wow...?
[03:45] <luchenbill> zephyr yeah I see your point
[03:45] <luchenbill> nothing a simple fresh install can't fix I guess
[03:45] <luchenbill> haha
[03:45] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: how did you install it?
[03:46] <r3m> I always need to type my password twice to login, the first time it always said bad password. i reboot like 20 time and it always do that... is it because my home folder is crypted
[03:46] <zephyr> I would only invest time on chroot is when I'm working on a live server OUTSIDE my home. Like if I was hired to work on a server for a friend then yea.. (Right now, I'm doing that and I'm using ISPConfig that will do all the security work for you).
[03:46] <Xeneth> luchenbill, All I know of chroot is I use it to modify ISO's.  :P  not sure it's applications for security.  My opinion though is unless you have something out there for public use, or made some enemies, good port management and password will prevent those just sniffing around.
[03:46] <k1dd1saster> chung...ya there?
[03:46] <luchenbill> cook Xeneth thanks for the advice
[03:47] <elky> Please turn off your 8-ball scripts
[03:47] <k1dd1saster> it's off man...im just learning how to write scripts just making sure i was doing it right
[03:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> k1dd1saster:  there's test channels for that, not #ubuntu
[03:47] <zephyr> My friend's server. I put ISPconfig on that.           On my own computer, I didn't. I just want to immediately test stuff.
[03:48] <elky> k1dd1saster, don't test bots here
[03:48] <TheEvilPhoenix> k1dd1saster:  /join #test or something, or if its a bot, #botters-test
[03:48] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor manually i mean by ./setup.py
[03:48] <k1dd1saster> ok thanks...i was actually gunna ask so i dont piss people off which channel i could join
[03:48] <zephyr> k1dd1saster: Or better yet,       #GoMakeYourOwnFriggenChannelLol
[03:49] <elky> 8-ball: test
[03:49] <DanF> elky: A question please.
[03:49] <KNUBBIG_> elky: A question please.
[03:49] <k1dd1saster> yo chung join #test
[03:49] <negispringfield> !ops
[03:49] <elky> DanF, KNUBBIG_ turn off your 8ball scripts
[03:49] <Legend_Xeon> o_O
[03:49] <NegiSpringfield> !wops
[03:50] <elky> NegiSpringfield, stop. You see my name in that list you're making the bot say? That means I'm an op.
[03:50] <zephyr> elky: A question please.
[03:50] <s0f> !ops
[03:50] <zephyr> :P
[03:50] <elky> zephyr, bad dog.
[03:50] <bastidrazor> fun.. trolls at it again.
[03:50] <NegiSpringfield> wops are italians :p
[03:50] <luchenbill> wtf 8ball is oging on in here
[03:50] <elky> NegiSpringfield, stop/
[03:50] <bastidrazor> ljsoftnet: look at the documentation that came with it.
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> elky: stop waht
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> what
[03:51] <ljsoftnet> bastidrazor its not there
[03:51] <elky> NegiSpringfield, being disruptive.
[03:51] <NegiSpringfield> of what
[03:51] <k1dd1saster> chung...
[03:51] <k1dd1saster> cpdude...
[03:52] <Guest50946> Hello
[03:54] <Xeneth> LOL  was chatty, now I swear I can hear crickets.  :P
[03:56] <Lasers> *Chirp Chirp*
[03:57] <r3m> !resetpanel
[03:58] <Xeneth> Another one bites the dust....
[03:59] <Chynek> A good html editor?
[04:01] <Amdpc> Chynek : gedit.  :P
[04:01] <Chynek> xD, I'm a newbie, I want something that make it easy
[04:02] <Xeneth> Chynek, I use to use  notepad in windows when I took that class.  Crimson Editor was real good too.  You can get their source from their page.
[04:02] <a_p3rson> is there a way to have update manager ignore the release of 11.04?
[04:02] <somsip> Chynek: if you need something that simple, try leafpad
[04:02] <h0sting> someone tells me how to set up an FTP
[04:03] <hetal> Hello. I'm trying to use gmake, but it's not installed. I also can't find it in the maverick repos. Does that mean that I can't get it on 10.10?
[04:03] <somsip> !gmake
[04:04] <Xeneth> a_p3rson, In software sources, you should see under updates tab "Release Upgrades".  Basicly set that to long term only.
[04:04] <a_p3rson> but that will ignore futures as well
[04:04] <a_p3rson> i just dont really want to do 11.04, is there a way to ignore just that release?
[04:05] <Xeneth> a_p3rson, It will ignore anything other then LTS.  When the next one comes out you can upgrade manually.  You will have to do 11.04 if you use the manager.
[04:06] <dfcnvt> Hi, I noticed my cursor or rather my typing onto the notepad or in browser tend to disappear and I cannot see where I am typing at.. I mean, I can type to something like this, "AAA" to grab my attention but most of the time whenever I move around with my arrow's button.. I can't see where I'm going.
[04:06] <dfcnvt> Any idea how to fix this?
[04:07] <dfcnvt> It's not my cursor, it's the position where I'm destinated to type. (i'm sure u understand what i'm talking abt)
[04:07] <dfcnvt> Any idea?
[04:07] <somsip> dfcnvt: you can't see the 'insert' cursor?
[04:08] <dfcnvt> correct
[04:09] <somsip> Maybe this is a jumping off point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Mouse_Cursor_Themes
[04:09] <Legend_Xeon> Sometimes on restart, ubuntu isnt able to detect Display monitor in System > Preferences > Monitors and shows crappy screen resolution.
[04:10] <Legend_Xeon> And labels it "Unknown"
[04:10] <Legend_Xeon> Is this hardware related issue?
[04:10] <dfcnvt> It's not the cursor... it's the err.. position where I'm typing right now..
[04:10] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Any luck?
[04:11] <dfcnvt> ...okay, like if I ask you type left arrow right now then the action of a position where it moves to the left is what I'm talking about, it disappear, I can't see it.
[04:12] <dfcnvt> I can't see where it's going... I have to type AAA or DD to know where the heck I am then backspace it to go ahead and type
[04:13] <somsip> dfcnvt: in what applications?
[04:14] <paulus68> Hi Everybody, what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:14] <dfcnvt> gedit, geany, sometimes in terminal
[04:14] <dfcnvt> browser
[04:14] <dfcnvt> basically overall application.
[04:14] <dfcnvt> Sometimes it disappear then it reappear back to its normal state.
[04:14] <dfcnvt> It's annoying me.
[04:15] <db_name> hi all
[04:15] <db_name> i am newbie for linux unix
[04:15] <db_name> please help me to config for server hostpot
[04:17] <somsip> dfcnvt: i don't know the answer. I find people having similar issues when searching, sometimes attributable to compiz. So you might have to research more if no one else here can help
[04:17] <Xeneth> dfcnvt, Does it still happening after reboot?  May be a quick fix.
[04:20] <luchenbill> is it possible to watch netflix on ubuntu?
[04:21] <Xeneth> luchenbill, that I would bet yes.  no proof though.
[04:21] <savior> HURRRR
[04:22] <Pilot_51> I have a recurring problem with an unkillable zombie process (status zl) which gets inherited by init but never reaped, the only workaround to kill it that I know of is to reboot which is a bit annoying... any help?
[04:22] <Lasers> Xeneth: I'll take the bet. Now, find a proof.
[04:23] <Xeneth> luchenbill, LOL  sorry, it's late over here in the states and I'm being lazy.
[04:23] <luchenbill> lol
[04:23] <luchenbill> ay it is
[04:24] <nathanel> hello amigos! question: is ubuntu 32bit better in terms of battery life expectation?
[04:26] <Lasers> nathanel: If I have to guess, I'll say not at all. The laptop can be powered on without any OS.
[04:26] <Xeneth> nathanel, as opposed to what?
[04:26] <nathanel> as opposed to amd64 build
[04:26] <tester> exit
[04:27] <savior> DURR
[04:28] <Xeneth> nathanel, I would guess no because 64bit is designed to optimize a 64-bit CPU, but it's just a guess.
[04:29] <nathanel> ok
[04:30] <nathanel> bc the real issue is that i have an mx340 for which canon only provides i386 packages for.. and it keeps breaking my install
[04:31] <nathanel> i used to do --force-all -i with ia32-libs back on 10.04, 10,10 and 11.04.. but now its all gone to hell with new dependency names and so forth
[04:32] <savior> DURRR
[04:32] <nathanel> on another hand.. they do provide source in a tar.. i'd be willing to builf if it's any easier...
[04:33] <savior> DURRR
[04:33] <nathanel> build if*
[04:33] <Lasers> nathanel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[04:34] <nathanel> Lasers: thx
[04:34] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: its still downloading
[04:37] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:37] <Lasers> nathanel: If you don't depend heavily on the printer, toss it out. Inkjet is wasting your money. In fact, all printers probably are a waste of money. Sure, you print it sometimes... If you really need one, go with me (Lasers).
[04:38] <leftist> they give the printers away like dealers give away crack but then they hook you on the ink
[04:39] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:40] <Xunie> Okay, weird, I got one apache2 thread running as root, why on earth is that?
[04:40] <Xunie> Is that normal?
[04:40] <Xunie> I mean, it's the parent of all other apache2 processes, so I guess it spawns them.
[04:41] <leftist> i dunno
[04:41] <nathanel> Lasers: i do depend on it...and if it was up to me i'd get a color laser.. but $$$$$$
[04:41] <leftist> they still have you hooked
[04:41] <Lasers> nathanel: For your business?
[04:42] <leftist> unless you know how to get past the need to replace the color ink cuase most users onnly need black but htere is a trick to bypass replacing the useless colored inks
[04:42] <nathanel> Lasers: school and personal projects
[04:42] <leftist> has anyone successfully installed Zoiper in 11.04?
[04:42] <nathanel> Lasers: i'm lost on the buil d:$
[04:42] <nathanel> build *
[04:42] <Lasers> nathanel: School provides labs.  Where are you stuck at (Compiling).
[04:44] <nathanel> Lasers: im in the source dir, opened a term
[04:45] <nathanel> asked for make
[04:45] <nathanel> i get an error on all
[04:45] <Pilot_51> Nobody knows what to do about my zombie dilemma?
[04:46] <nathanel> Lasers: get an error on all when make
[04:46] <savior> DURRRR
[04:46] <savior> HURRRRRRRRRRR
[04:46] <paulus68> what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:46] <Lasers> savior: /exit DURRRR ;o
[04:47] <qin> Pilot_51: It is called zombie coz you cannot kill it. What process is it?
[04:47] <savior> sorry i have a DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR tick
[04:47] <SetiAmon> What Delima?Zombies,kill em
[04:47] <Lasers> nathanel: You try ./configure ?
[04:47] <savior> ./DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:47] <gry> err?
[04:47] <Pilot_51> qin: GoogleTalkPlugi
[04:47] <nathanel> Lasers: no such file or dir
[04:48] <Lasers> The only way to kill zombies is to nuke the whole playground. (sudo reboot)
[04:48] <nathanel> you can d-ban them too lol
[04:48] <SetiAmon> I have zombieland dvr'd i should probably atch it all the way threw
[04:48] <savior> DURRRRRRRRR
[04:48] <nathanel> Lasers:.. back to compiling
[04:49] <nathanel> it sucks
[04:49] <Pilot_51> It crashed or something and I can't start it back up because apparently Google sees the zombie as the process already running
[04:49] <qin> Pilot_51: And what browser? Does it have any parent?
[04:49] <Lasers> nathanel: Are you in correct path? Honestly, I'll just put the printer in the dark corner.
[04:49] <Lasers> And get a decent Laser printer.
[04:49] <a_p3rson> Lasers: i like your analogy there
[04:49] <a_p3rson> (insert screaming mutated children with sand toys)
[04:49] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Google?   Just saying.
[04:51] <savior> HURRRRRRRRRRR
[04:51] <qin> Pilot_51: You could test it with chromium, and in the end it should terminate (hard to say when).
[04:51] <grendal-prime> ya but i know of 3 seriously important websites that chrom does not work on
[04:51] <grendal-prime> adp being the biggie
[04:51] <cantoos> ?
[04:52] <nathanel> does installing ubuntu 32bit solve these types of issues? how bad is performance
[04:52] <Pilot_51> I had an issue with Google Chrome after a recent kernel update where my PC would freeze if I play a game after running Chrome. Haven't tried it in the most recent kernel or Chrome version though
[04:52] <savior> HURRRRRRR
[04:52] <cantoos> yo
[04:52] <Xeneth> grendal-prime, Really?  I get my pay stub from adp, and it works on my chrome portable.
[04:52] <Lasers> nathanel: The performance are not noticeable between two architectures.
[04:53] <nathanel> ok
[04:53] <grendal-prime> my timecard is on there..it will not let me enter anythying in the hour fileds
[04:53] <qin> grendal-prime: What cannot be serious website, since at least 10% of people using chrome.
[04:53] <savior> DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:53] <nathanel> so as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?
[04:53] <nathanel> Lasers:so as long as pae is there.. i get my 8 gigs and stop fiddling with amd64 compat?
[04:53] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Ah okies. Thought downloading would be done by now. Lol.
[04:53] <grendal-prime> its not just me ither mac users have the same problem...firefox works..but chrome does not
[04:53] <zephyr> @ UnrealPancake
[04:54] <qin> grendal-prime: Lazy webmaster do not make chrome bad browser.
[04:54] <cantoos> quit
[04:54] <nathanel> Lasers: I'll vm beta2 32bit and see if it gives me any errors on the drivers
[04:54] <SetiAmon> its so strange.with jaunty and the beta drivers x-fi worked fine.yet since jaunty everything hasn't worked.staticy distorted etc.removing pulse audio and installing OSS4 helps a great deal but now i have no keyboard control of my sound.and there is still staticy stuff
[04:54] <savior> DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:54] <nathanel> if not.. i'll just dump amd64
[04:54] <Lasers> nathanel: Sure since you don't want to part with the printer.
[04:55] <nathanel> well, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is beinf nice now :)
[04:55] <nathanel> being*
[04:55] <nathanel> Lasers: well, I do wanna keep 64 bit... everything works out of box except for it .... even logitech is being nice now :)
[04:55] <paulus68> what are the requirements to install ubuntu over a network connection?
[04:56] <nac-godfather> anyone know how I can forcefully kill a process when kill and xkill fail to stop the runaway...
[04:56] <gry> nac-godfather, kill -9 ID ?
[04:56] <grendal-prime> qin ? adp?
[04:56] <nac-godfather> PXE server, pretty in depth
[04:56] <Lasers> nathanel: Well. It's just a printer. You can determine if it's worth the hassle.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> http://www.viewpoints.com/ADP-reviews
[04:56] <Lasers> nathanel: You're likely to face the same issue again and again in the future. :)
[04:56] <nac-godfather> tried it once for a couple nights, but gave up.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> chrom does not work on adp pages i have to work with..and i have to be able to log in.
[04:56] <grendal-prime> so i have firefox installed for that reason alone
[04:57] <grendal-prime> im just saying
[04:57] <wildbat> paulus68: that's you have two computers with working NIC :)
[04:57] <nathanel> Lasers: i know that.. i'm aware of the coming trouble with future releases.. but i do depend on it's scanner feature too
[04:57] <nessonic> Is there a way to run a command through SSH locally?
[04:57] <Shikhin> This is really weird. Something was leaking, and I had only few MiB of free space remaining. Somebody suggested me to use Bleachbit, and I did. However, recently, I find that I run bleachbit and in few seconds th free space drops from 12GiB to 12MiB.
[04:57] <Shikhin> HELP.
[04:58] <Shikhin> :-)
[04:58] <gry> Shikhin, with ?
[04:58] <Shikhin> gry: With my problem I described in the previous line.
[04:58] <Shikhin> (prior to that HELP)
[04:58] <zephyr> Shikhin: Ugh. No.
[04:58] <nathanel> gry: his memory leak using bleachbit
[04:59] <gry> ah
[04:59] <zephyr> Shikhin: Actually, we just can't assist you with anything anyway unless we know YOUR "issue"...
[04:59] <Lasers> grendal-prime: Have you used agent strings for Chromium?
[04:59] <qin> grendal-prime: The link was rofl, for real.
[04:59] <nathanel> can anyone build me an amd64 package.. im lost...
[05:00] <paulus68> wildbat: well that's obvious but is there a nice howto or tutorial that can come in handy to set this up ;)
[05:01] <Shikhin> zephyr: See, I have a 320GiB hard disk. I have split it into four partitions, with one dedicated to Ubuntu. On this one, I store almost nothing, except the "usual" stuff. I expect it to have around 15-20 GiB free. However, recently, I found out that it had nly 32 MiB free space left. Sinec I don't store much on it, I was surprised. I asked on this channel, and somebody said that BleachBit could "wipe out" unneccessary data. I ran BleachBit, and wo, I had 12.
[05:01] <Shikhin> And, the cycle continues.
[05:01] <TeamColtra> When does the Beta2 spin become available?
[05:01] <Shikhin> I hope that was clear enough..
[05:02] <TeamColtra> Is it timed... or is it kinda "sometime today"
[05:02] <wildbat> !netboot| paulus68, you just asked what are the requirement ;p anyway read this.
[05:02] <glebihan> nathanel, sorry didn't follow from the beginning... what is the problem exactly ? you have a 32 bits package that you want to install on a 64 bits system ?
[05:02] <Lasers> TeamColtra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[05:02] <TeamColtra> Lasers, yes, it says today
[05:03] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I have slow download speeds >_>
[05:03] <zephyr> Shikhin: I'm not understanding the purpose.      Three minutes into today. You'll get it today when they're tying things up into knots.
[05:03] <Xeneth> Shikhin, I seem to remember bleachbit fills the partition up completly then deletes it as a way to make sure the deleted files cannot be recovered..  May be what you are seeing.
[05:03] <zephyr> Weird to have sooo many partitions. o_O
[05:04] <Shikhin> Basically, I have nothing on my 80GiB partition, and free space automagically drops from 12GiB to 32MiB in few minutes.
[05:04] <Shikhin> (nothing as in, not much)
[05:04] <nathanel> glebihan: yes.. its my mx340 drivers.. i used to do dpkg --force-all -i with ia32libs installed and everything would work great for the past 3 releases.. now it breaks my package install whenever i set them up that way.. even though they function..  I also have the source but have no idea how to compile
[05:04] <zephyr> Xeneth: AH THOSE THINGS. A Permanent file deleter.
[05:04] <ZafotheNinja> Hey all I'm new XD
[05:04] <Lasers> TeamColtra: You can get it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ -- when it's released -- you should get the same thing.
[05:05] <TeamColtra> Lasers, I was under the understanding that Ubuntu is based in Europe (primarily) if thats the case then it is 6:04AM now I am not trying to be impatient I was just wondering if its a "when it's ready" thing or if there was a planned release time for it
[05:05] <zephyr> Shikhin: Why? Is it a software that purposely fill up your harddive to overwrite permanent?
[05:05] <Xeneth> Shikhin, zephyr, it's not a nuke, it's for an active partition.  I used it once.  It caused problems before, but that is one thing I do remember.
[05:05] <glebihan> nathanel, isn't there a README or INSTALL file in the source package ? could you post a link to that source package ?
[05:06] <Shikhin> Ok. Leave everything out. In short: Free space on my hard disk seems to be decreasing automagically every moment.
[05:06] <Lasers> TeamColtra: There are no planned release time. Yeah. Most likely "when it's ready"
[05:06] <savior> lol automagically
[05:06] <savior> awesome
[05:06] <zephyr> Shikhin: So what's really the purpose of that software that is doing that?
[05:06] <Shikhin> zephyr: Urm. I don't know what is doing that. If I did, why would I be asking here?
[05:07] <Xeneth> http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <Lasers> TeamColtra: Not to mention they're going to wait until all mirror sites get it first. That was from my experience with Ubuntu Final Releases.
[05:07] <Xeneth> The filling of the hard drive is an attempt to hide the deleted files.  Privacy for that portion
[05:07] <zephyr> Shikhin, well, if theres nothing important on those partitions, I would just reformat it.
[05:07] <TeamColtra> Lasers, thanks so since the "last date modified" shows today -- is that technically Beta2?  really I am more concerned because last time I did Alpha2 release and for whatever reason my system didn't like the changes when I switched to Beta1 (which is acceptable I know those risks when I download alpha/beta) and I had to re-install... but my current OS is like dying on me so instead of reinstalling I would rather just upgrade
[05:08] <nathanel> glebihan: nope... thats what bugs me... http://support-au.canon.com.au/P/search?model=PIXMA+MX340&menu=download&filter=0&tagname=g_os&g_os=Linux
[05:08] <Shikhin> zephyr: I have Ubuntu installed on that partition - which shows that error.
[05:08] <Shikhin> And the problem ISN'T caused by BleachBit.
[05:08] <Shikhin> I used BleachBit AFTER I observed the problem - to clean stuff up.
[05:09] <zephyr> Shikhin:  Harddrives are like               STONE WALLS.       You write data. You delete it.     You can recover it, The only way to make sure no one can recover it, you have to damage the entire stone wall.
[05:09] <paulus68> wildbat: thx
[05:09] <Lasers> TeamColtra: That can be. We won't know. Maybe we should download hashes.txt and wait until later for comparison. :)
[05:09]  * Shikhin does a facepalm.
[05:09] <Shikhin> How is that related ANYWHERE to my problem?
[05:09] <Pilot_51> Got another question: Maybe I just don't understand it, but why doesn't memory usage in System Monitor add up as expected? Example: java (Eclipse) is taking 904.2 MiB memory, 1.8GiB virtual memory, 947.4 MiB resident memory; total usage is 2.6 GiB physical and 244 KiB swap
[05:09] <beav_35> Is there any way to get promiscuous mode to work with ath9k drivers?
[05:10] <TeamColtra> I will just make the dive... :)
[05:10] <Xeneth> Shikhin, If it was the swap file, I would think it was a memory leak, but that FS isn't a leak
[05:10] <Lasers> !memory | Pilot_51
[05:10] <TeamColtra> No guts, no glory eh?
[05:10] <Pilot_51> For one, I'd expect "memory" to be physical+virtual
[05:10] <zephyr> Shikhin: A software purposely writes random useless junk data filling up your harddrive, to OVERWRITE  "freespace".  So it will not be possible to recover deleted files from "freespace".
[05:10] <wildbat> Shikhin: du to seek what is eating the space ~
[05:10] <Lasers> TeamColtra: Use zsync so you shouldn't have to download the whole ISO once Beta2 came out.
[05:11] <Shikhin> zephyr: How does that relate to my problem, again?
[05:11] <Shikhin> wildbat: How do I get to know what is eating up that space?
[05:11] <glebihan> nathanel, having a look, give me a few minutes
[05:12] <nathanel> glebihan: sur
[05:12] <zephyr> Shikhin: You mentioned something is Eating up your harddrive. I can not imagine any linux software that would do that other than a Permanent file deletion tool.
[05:12] <nathanel> sur
[05:12] <nathanel> glebihan: sure*
[05:12] <Xeneth> Shikhin, I wich I could remember where it was, but Gnome has a pie chart that will show you what is taking up your HDD space.  May want to look into that.
[05:12] <Jef91> where can I get the beta discs for 11.10?
[05:12] <Xeneth> err wish
[05:13] <Pilot_51> Lasers: I'm grazing through those pages but it doesn't seem to apply to my question
[05:13] <zephyr> Shikhin, Why not just read a file that's occupying your diskspace to figure out what it is. o_o
[05:13] <wildbat> Shikhin: if a folder / file eat 60+GB you will know . and lsof  to find the bad naughty process. or what Xeneth said if you wanna GUI.
[05:13] <Shikhin> zephyr: The problem occured before I started using Bleachbit (which I used to try to solve the problem - clearing up space).
[05:13] <harry_> Jef91:its not available on net...
[05:13] <Shikhin> Brb.
[05:13] <Jef91> harry_ don't spread trash
[05:14] <zephyr> LOL... Omg, seriously. I would had just deleted the problem and "continue on" with "clearing up space". Sheesh.
[05:14] <glebihan> nathanel, btw, before trying to compile, did you try --force-architecture instead of --force-all ?
[05:14] <zephyr> Or kill programs that has high ammount of memory usesage,
[05:14] <Lasers> Pilot_51: I googled. http://goo.gl/ZNcdp
[05:14] <nathanel> glebihan: will try
[05:14] <jcapinc> hey, can anyone suggest a generic "chat" irc room that actually has people on it?
[05:15] <Xeneth> zephyr, I think the issue was that he didn't know what was causing the proble, what file/folder was using the space.
[05:15] <Lasers> jcapinc: #defocus
[05:16] <Xeneth> I cannot type.  ... well, since it is 1am, I guess it's understandable.
[05:16] <Pilot_51> Basically the 2 main things I want a clear answer on is how to find the total physical+swap memory usage of a process in System Monitor and why does virtual memory usage not fit with swap usage?
[05:16] <nathanel> glebihan: it still asks for install -f
[05:16] <jcapinc> Thank you Lasers
[05:17] <zephyr> Xeneth: He/she is in terminal? He could has used a command to see a list of files with "sizes".
[05:17] <harry_> Jef91: what u mean frnd??
[05:17] <glebihan> nathanel, first purge the package, then run "sudo apt-get install -f" then dpkg --force-architecture
[05:17] <nathanel> did it
[05:17] <Xeneth> zephyr, true, not sure how comfortable he/she is with CLI
[05:18] <nathanel> glebihan: did that
[05:18] <zephyr> And being outside of CLI, is a whole lot easier.
[05:18] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Im trying ti now. I hope it works.
[05:19] <Xeneth> That's why I suggested the graph, but I do not know it's location, so maybe not so much help.  :P
[05:19] <Pilot_51> Lasers: This is about inconsistencies between displayed process memory usage and displayed total memory usage, not disappearing memory or inconsistencies between top and System Monitor (I have a decent understanding of cache/buffers)
[05:19] <Lasers> Pilot_51: Yes. I have nothing to say about it. It could be just delays.
[05:20] <glebihan> nathanel, ok then i'll have a look at the source
[05:20] <Pilot_51> What delays could that be?
[05:20] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:  Do one of the following:        1. Clear the USB drive (Make necessary back ups).                       Or 2.          You could       simply   Make a folder in your USB.  move all files and folders (and hidden ones) to that new folder.
[05:20] <Lasers> Pilot_51: Reporting time. I really don't know. ;X
[05:20] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: wait, what?
[05:20] <Pilot_51> Virtual memory is the same as swap, right?
[05:20] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, The GUI would update every 5 sec for example, and the CLI would be from pressing enter.
[05:21] <Xeneth> That's where the delay could come from.
[05:21] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:   In case you have things in your USB.                     Back it up.  Clear USB.
[05:21] <Guest68263> I can't download Adeskbar? It 404 not found?
[05:21] <Jef91> where can I get the the early discs of 11.10 from?
[05:21] <Pilot_51> I'm looking at everything in System Monitor which updates every 5 seconds currently
[05:21] <glebihan> nathanel, all you should have to do to compile is extract the tarball then cd to the created folder and run "make" then "sudo make install"
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake:             OR                 --       1. Make a folder in your USB.            2.       Move all files/folders to your new folder.
[05:22] <nathanel> glebihan.. normally yes.. but it doesnt
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: That's TWO ways to prepare your USB.
[05:22] <glebihan> nathanel, meaning ? what errors do you get ?
[05:22] <Guest68263> I can't download Adeskbar.It says 404 not found?
[05:22] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Do you now understand?
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: Im using the USB installer or whatever
[05:22] <nathanel> glebihan: error all ** stop
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer.exe
[05:22] <UnrealPancake> that
[05:23] <zephyr> UnrealPancake, ah okay.
[05:23] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Virtual = Swap.  True
[05:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I hope im doing it right lol
[05:23] <glebihan> nathanel, there must be messages before that. Could you pastebin the full output ?
[05:23] <UnrealPancake> zephyr: I got error: Cannot delete output file D:\Ubuntu
[05:24] <UnrealPancake> whats that?
[05:24] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: So why do most of my processes show virtual memory usage in the hundreds of MiB while total swap usage just shows 244 KiB?
[05:24] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: Okay, just use unetbootin then.
[05:25] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Not a guru in linux, so not sure.  What command you using?
[05:25] <nathanel> glebihan: http://pastebin.com/nJqxnC98
[05:25] <UnrealPancake> huh?
[05:25] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: No command, just looking at System Monitor with most of the Memory columns enabled
[05:25] <zephyr> UnrealPancake: YOu have a problem right?  I'm not familar with that software,   I use   unetbootin.sourceforge.net                       To put Ubuntu onto my USB flash drive.
[05:25] <UnrealPancake> oh well ill try this and if not ill come back k?
[05:26] <zephyr> Okay.
[05:27] <banpdtr_> Hi all , Can I send message through command line (in Ubuntu) to specific user in pidgin ??
[05:27] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Visit #Pidgin          Who told you that was possible?
[05:28] <banpdtr_> zephyr:  I believe that it is possible :)
[05:28] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, My system monitor only had Memory (RAM) and Swap (VMemory)
[05:29] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Wait, what the heck? You didn't even tell us what proticol you're sending too. What would be a good USE-CASE for that? Like what's the purpose? What's the point in that?
[05:29] <zephyr> MSN? Yahoo? Facebook? IRC? XAMPP?
[05:29] <zephyr> O_O
[05:29] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: Yeah that's in the Resources tab, it's the Processes tab where I'm not sure what the memory values exactly mean
[05:29] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, are you talking about the processes?
[05:29] <wzssyqa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/694957/  why the awk doesn,t work here?
[05:30] <banpdtr_> zephyr: XMPP
[05:30] <zephyr> banpdtr_: I do not quite understand how this is going to work. Or even the purpose.
[05:31] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, I think that memory is not current, but accumulative.  How much it has loaded from the start.  Mine is just rising only.
[05:31] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: Look at the script at the end of this thread. Apparently it's doable, but with that script specifically, you have to have X server running, and the chat window has to be open as well. - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-968221.html
[05:31] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: I do also know that there are purple-based CLI IM clients as well. Not Pidgin, but they're based on Purple, like Pidgin.
[05:31] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, NvM, it just dropped.
[05:32] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: Hmm... Well I've seen it drop before, though the one I monitor the most is Firefox which is notorious for memory leaks (I constantly need to restart it because memory gets full and starts using swap)
[05:32] <Axlin|MB> banpdtr_: Finch, that's what I was thinking of. I couldn't think of an example on the spot. :-)
[05:32] <darbe> hi guys
[05:33] <zephyr> banpdtr_: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968221       "Finch is a console-based IM program that lets you sign on to AIM, Jabber, MSN, Yahoo!, and other IM networks. It runs on Unixes. It uses GLib and ncurses. "
[05:33] <darbe> is there any handy irc software for ubuntu?
[05:33] <banpdtr_> yeah.. I am looking at that.. there are some tools like purple-send and purple-remote
[05:33] <banpdtr_> :)
[05:33] <Pilot_51> darbe: I'm using XVIrc and I love it
[05:33] <Axlin|MB> darbe: Plenty! I use XChat myself. But there are several alternatives available in Software Center.
[05:33] <zephyr> banpdtr_: So you just then need documentations and tutorials/Examples.
[05:33] <Lasers> !irc | darbe
[05:34] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, The Mem in the processes is RAM.  Some may go to SWAP, but it's MEMORY + SWAP
[05:34] <darbe> i want to have something  like
[05:34] <darbe> it should pop up when somebody write
[05:34] <zephyr> darbe: Popup? O_O
[05:35] <darbe> this room is crowded
[05:35] <darbe> but other rooms
[05:35] <Xeneth> It's a PARTY!!!!
[05:35] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: If I remember correctly, resident memory = physical memory, which is usually slightly higher than memory
[05:35] <darbe> for instance i use konversation
[05:35] <Pilot_51> Another source of confusion
[05:35] <darbe> it is flashing
[05:36] <alchemy> how to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me
[05:36] <zephyr> darbe: Use XChat.         Xchat does all what an average user wants to do over IRC. Even make scripts for XCHAT bot & such enhancements using Perl/Python and other languages.
[05:36] <Axlin|MB> darbe: If I'm interpreting that correctly, It's possible with XChat to have channel-specific popup & sound notifications when there's chat activity. I'm sure other clients are capable of the same.
[05:36] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, Physical memory is memory.  Only reason it's normally lower because the OS uses some.
[05:36] <darbe> ok thx i will try
[05:37] <zephyr> darbe: If you want that, use Konversation (Although it's a KDE app, it does install well on Ubuntu).
[05:37] <Pilot_51> darbe: I used to use XChat, but I didn't like how it lacked good notifications for mentions, which I found KVIrc to do acceptably
[05:37] <darbe> tu
[05:37] <zephyr> I personally like Konversation more than KVIRC.
[05:37] <alchemy>  how to set  proxy in ubuntu 11 can any one help me
[05:38] <darbe> yeah it is poping up
[05:38] <darbe> can I see last ten?
[05:38] <zephyr> alchemy: System -> Preferrences -> Network Proxy
[05:38] <darbe> because it only shows last line
[05:39] <zephyr> darbe, I just like Konversation more.
[05:39] <darbe> me either
[05:39] <darbe> but I need to take care of it
[05:39] <darbe> I should open each time
[05:39] <zephyr> It does "last messages", you can pick how many lines it should be for last said messages.      Konversation is better for notifications.
[05:40] <darbe> ok let;s try
[05:40] <zephyr> You can hide Konversation in your tray.
[05:40] <zephyr> It's Very configurable.
[05:40] <zephyr> Identity list is to DIE FOR.
[05:40] <darbe> pop up?
[05:41] <zephyr> That xchat lacks darbe.
[05:41] <zephyr> Popup like "new window"?
[05:41] <darbe> no
[05:41] <zephyr> Or Highlighters? Notification popup?
[05:41] <zephyr> It does that.
[05:41] <darbe> small wnidows
[05:41] <darbe> window on the corner
[05:41] <darbe> or some where
[05:41] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: I guess what's really needed is proper documentation on exactly what the columns mean. It's not in the help files and so far haven't found anything online.
[05:41] <zephyr> Yes. Althought tht's not a window. That's Notification.
[05:42] <zephyr> Fading away message, that sorta thing.
[05:42] <darbe> where is it?
[05:42] <zephyr> It even makes sounds and you can pick what soudns it will make depending on What Happens on IRC.
[05:42] <darbe> i found it
[05:43] <darbe> it should be defaulrt
[05:43] <darbe> :D:D
[05:43] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: It's clear that they don't mean what I (and albeit most people) think they mean, especially the virtual memory column which adds up to be much higher than total physical+swap usage
[05:43] <zephyr> darbe, it makes popups like this: http://gadgetinspiration.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/gmailnotifier.jpg          <---- Notification boxes.
[05:44] <zephyr> darbe, you will LOVE this irc client, trust me.                 My only complaint is that this is made for KDE.
[05:44] <darbe> thank you
[05:44] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, True, but that's linux in general.  I believe the memory column in processes is revering memory usage.  Makes no distinguation between physical or swap.
[05:44] <darbe> i enable it  but i don't see
[05:44] <darbe> :S:S
[05:44] <zephyr> Someone should Fork and make a GTK/Gnome or something VERY LIGHT version of KDE.
[05:45] <zephyr> Like an Xchat but better.
[05:45] <darbe_> try
[05:45] <zephyr> ^Konversation IRC client I speak of.
[05:45] <darbe_> try
[05:45] <zephyr> Gonversation or something.
[05:45] <Pilot_51> darbe: This might help too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
[05:45] <glebihan> zephyr, should it be called Gonversation ?
[05:46] <zephyr> glebihan: Nah, That term was only to glue an idea to anyone's mind.
[05:46] <darbe_> try
[05:46] <darbe_> try
[05:46] <darbe_> tt
[05:46] <Xeneth> Pilot_51, LOL  it's late, and my typing is going down hill.  :P
[05:46] <FloodBot1> darbe_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <Xeneth> I'm out people.  Night
[05:46] <darbe_> YAHOOO IT WORKS
[05:46] <darbe_> linux is crazy
[05:47] <Pilot_51> Xeneth: night
[05:47] <darbe_> i just though it founded long time ago
[05:47] <zephyr> I would prefer to call it something else. Not make it for gnome, but something  like how XCHAT & Chatzilla made their IRC client.
[05:48] <zephyr> I tried to make an IRC cleint, but failed.
[05:48] <darbe_> zephyr<<<< thanks a lot
[05:48] <zephyr> You're welcome.
[05:49] <zephyr> darbe_, edit your "Identification" list, you'll then see why Konversation is so sexy.
[05:50] <zephyr> A personal profile, a set of nicknames and all that jazz for each irc network you go to, and you can duplicate that too.
[05:51] <glebihan> zephyr, a quick look at Konversation... and I'd say it's pretty much impossible to port it to gtk
[05:53] <zephyr> glebihan: Very true, I would better off Make that client from SCRATCH.   Starting by making it have features like Konversation. BUT let it handle text like Xchat
[05:53] <Pilot_51> Ah, I remember why I didn't try Konversation despite being so good. Didn't want to install the kde dependencies
[05:53] <zephyr> Pilot_51: Exactly!!!
[05:54] <Pilot_51> So... KVIrc, from what I've tried, is the best IRC client for Gnome
[05:54] <ninwa> Pilot_51, really, not xchat?
[05:54] <zephyr> They hadn't released a stable for like a year now going on to two.
[05:54] <zephyr> ninwa: Xchat got that stupid window-ing system.
[05:54] <Pilot_51> ninjah: Really, I used XChat for maybe a year, wasn't satisfied with it
[05:54] <ninwa> zephyr, not sure what you're talking about
[05:54] <ninwa> Pilot_51, hm, I guess my needs are simpler than yours
[05:55] <zephyr> Pilot_51: The ONLY thing good about KVIRC is    a more detailed customization, and IRC-Log viewer.
[05:55] <zephyr> Or and scripting.
[05:55] <glebihan> scripting works well in xchat
[05:55] <zephyr> ninwa: That dumb Tabs system.          The first channel window being Status window. Some crap like that.
[05:55] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[05:56] <Pilot_51> It has a really nice way to separate channel system messages (join/part/etc) from the chat
[05:56] <ninwa> I guess I don't spend enough time caring about my IRC client :p
[05:56] <Pilot_51> But as I said, my main problem with XChat was a lack of decent mention notifications
[05:57] <ninwa> Pilot_51, there's probably a plugin for that, but it highlights the chan in the treeview as blue
[05:58] <gnosis> i just installed a new 1TB hdd and formatted it as ext3.  nautilus is showing 46.8GB used, 870.1GB free (917GB total size).  df -h shows 200M used, 871GB available.  anyone know what could be taking up those 46GB?
[05:58] <Pilot_51> ninwa: Wasn't enough for me... anyway we should respect the offtopic warning
[05:59] <ninwa> Pilot_51, im too new here to argue with that ;)
[05:59] <cypha> does ubuntu have hibernate?
[05:59] <urlin2u> gnosis, the amount on the box and actual is aboit that difference.
[05:59] <urlin2u> abiut
[05:59] <glebihan> cypha, yes
[05:59] <cypha> glebihan, how do I do it?
[05:59] <cypha> sudo hibernate 0?
[05:59] <ninwa> cypha, or click hibernate in the system menu (upper right, the power icon)
[05:59] <cypha> from the Cl
[06:00] <cypha> CL
[06:00] <glebihan> cypha, I think it's "pm-hibernate" (never used it though)
[06:00] <urlin2u> gnosis, look at it with gparted.
[06:00] <gnosis> urlin2u: are you talking about the difference between advertised size and actual number of bytes?
[06:01] <cypha> glebihan, you got it
[06:01] <cypha> thanks
[06:01] <glebihan> cypha, you're welcome
[06:01] <zephyr> Although I know about hibernation, I never found a good usecase/point of hibernation. I do not even do that on my Windows machine.
[06:01] <gnosis> because i know about that.  it's showing total size as 917GB, which is what i expected
[06:01] <ninwa> zephyr, uh, resume a session?
[06:01] <urlin2u> gnosis, yes I think you may be reading it wrong, hard to look at it with gparted and see if there is 46 gigs of data.
[06:01] <gnosis> but after that, it's showing 46GB as used.  i don't understand what could be using that much space on a brand new drive
[06:01] <zephyr> Unless it's to save a bit of electricity.
[06:02] <zephyr> Or move the computer to another location.
[06:03] <kleopatra> Hello, is Lapack++ 2.5.2 up to date?
[06:03] <ninwa> im always mixing up hibernate / suspend, I know one only keeps memory powered, the other writes to hd and shuts down
[06:03] <gnosis> urlin2u: gparted shows size=931GB, used=15GB, unused=917GB
[06:03] <ninwa> sleep is another term used sometimes
[06:03] <gry> ninwa: hibernate wipes to hdd
[06:03] <ninwa> gry, okay :)
[06:03] <gry> :)
[06:04] <zephyr> ninwa: I never got the suspend option to work, what's the real purpose behind it. After I try doing that, I'm locked out my computer and cant do anything with it except force shut down.
[06:04] <gnosis> urlin2u: then nautilus shows total capacity as 917GB, 46GB used, and 870GB free
[06:04] <ninwa> zephyr, the idea is you dont have to post, so you save on time from "power button clicked to in your environment"
[06:04] <urlin2u> gnosis, so nothing is on it at all?
[06:05] <zephyr> ninwa: Before  I force shut down I would tap the power button and see if anything special happens. Nothing happened.
[06:05] <gnosis> urlin2u: no, bought brand new from newegg.  i just took it out of the box, installed, and formatted as ext3
[06:05] <ninwa> zephyr, it may be turned off in your bios
[06:06] <zephyr> Okay, then that's something to look up in mmy boios later.
[06:06] <urlin2u> gnosis, open it hit ctrl-h to show hidden,maybe there is a trash hidden, not sure really.
[06:07] <Kartagis> good morning. I have a problem with pnopaste. it doesn't highlight syntax. help me?
[06:08] <gnosis> urlin2u: did that.  there's only an empty lost+found folder.  du -sh shows it as 16K
[06:10] <melvincv_> Hi
[06:11] <gry> hi melvincv_
[06:11] <gnosis> so gparted shows 15GB used, nautilus shows 46GB, df shows 200MB, du shows 20K,
[06:11] <gnosis> gparted says 917GB free, everything else says 870GB
[06:12] <melvincv_> I have Ubuntu 11.04. Empathy keeps changing my status to away after 1 or 2 minutes. How may I prevent this?
[06:13] <ninwa> Is there a way to disable the overlay scrollbars in 11.04?
[06:13] <urlin2u> gnosis, why ext3?
[06:14] <urlin2u> ninwa, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-disable-overlay-scrollbars-in.html
[06:14] <gnosis> urlin2u: why not?  is there a more appropriate file system to use?
[06:14] <androidTed> can you ignore/hide JOINs messages from Empathy?
[06:15] <wildbat> how to enable overlay scrollbars on 10.04 :p
[06:15] <urlin2u> gnosis, not sure the OS is ext4.
[06:15] <ninwa> example #232413 of something that should be accessible via a systems settings gui.
[06:15] <gnosis> my OS drive is ext3
[06:15] <melvincv_> Let me see if there are any Empathy settings in gconf-editor...
[06:16] <melvincv_> Hope this can prevent Empathy from setting my status to away all the time :(
[06:16] <urlin2u> gnosis, you running windows as well? the partitions changed to ext4 a while back
[06:18] <urlin2u> not much difference just curious
[06:18] <melvincv_> Oops, I can't find empathy in gconf-editor :( Really sad that  can't customize it. Linux is all about customization, right?
[06:18] <urlin2u> melvincv_, yeah and knowing what your doing.:D
[06:19] <gnosis> urlin2u: yeah, have a ntfs partition on the same drive with xp installed
[06:20] <melvincv_> @urlin2u:  Can you help me with my issue?
[06:24] <urlin2u> melvincv_, never used it I see on the web though that others seem to have that problem.
[06:25] <melvincv_> urlin2u, thanks.
[06:28] <gnosis> urlin2u: figured it out: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=102175
[06:28] <gnosis> 5% of space reserved for superuser
[06:30] <h2010n> hi
[06:30] <kokozedman> hey guys, i'm programming a software that connects to a single host, but i have several ppp routes/gateways and i want to use them as to make use of all bandwidth... any ideas?
[06:33] <wildbat> kokozedman: bind the connections to different IPs of the NICs, (assuming each have route to the targeted IP).
[06:33] <kokozedman> i'm able to do it partially using nexthop (ip), but only one single route is used at a time, then when i stop the program, then the next one is used
[06:34] <kokozedman> wildbat, i thought of doing that, but that wouldn't be flexible at all, because the PPP links comes and go
[06:35] <kokozedman> it would be much more efficient to just have the program send to one single host, then it is up to the system to just alternate via the available routes/gateways
[06:37] <wildbat> kokozedman: unless you have a single public routable ip for you local PC and do balance with routing ~ rethink your protocol.
[06:39] <|Gff|> can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media   does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse
[06:40] <kokozedman> wildbat, it's a pretty easy application, and is just a client-server UDP... are you knowledged about the ip route ... nexthopt ... nexthop? because it is already working, but i have to flush the route very frequently for that...... i could also do it if found a way to just flush the route to that specific host
[06:41] <kokozedman> i don't have enough knowledge programming this kind of route flushing
[06:41] <kokozedman> so, i thought i'd ask if anyone knows.... in C
[06:44] <|Gff|> can somebody explain why  xfs_rtcp /root/1.mpg /mnt/1/ew_media  command does not work in ubuntu  but works in opensuse
[06:45] <wildbat> kokozedman: i think you just need to bind to the IP ~ the network should take care of it ~ try in  ##c  that's for programming
[06:50] <|Gff|> what linux kernel does 11.4 use
[06:52] <faLUCE> hi. Is it possible to have two /etc/rc.local files ? Or something similar
[06:55] <|Gff|> what linux kernel does 11.4 use
[06:56] <urlin2u> 2.6.38-11 as of now
[07:05] <|Gff|> how do i get ubuntu with version 2.7 or higher
[07:05] <Ibis> |Gff|: That's old o.O
[07:06] <Ibis> |Gff|: Are you talking about Gnome / Unity?
[07:06] <|Gff|> no kernel version
[07:06] <Ibis> Ah those.
[07:06] <rww> |Gff|: There is no kernel 2.7. Linux changed versioning schemes a long, long time ago, and eventually went straight from 2.6 to 3.0.
[07:07] <|Gff|> oh
[07:07] <|Gff|> how do i get unbuntu with 3.0 then
[07:07] <Myrtti> |Gff|: why do you want it?
[07:07] <rocco> 1LIST
[07:07] <|Gff|> because 3.0 fix a bug that i need
[07:07] <|Gff|> fixed
[07:08] <Ibis> Summary: Besides a new version numbering scheme, Linux 3.0 also has several new features: Btrfs data scrubbing and automatic defragmentation...             <---- Defragmention?  o_O
[07:08] <Ibis> I thought that was a windows only thing.
[07:09] <|Gff|> http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_Status_Updates
[07:09] <|Gff|> ibis it says it fixed a xfs bug
[07:14] <Ibis> |Gff|: You might want to have a look here: http://techtimely.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/install-linux-kernel-3-0-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:15] <|Gff|> ibis why not just get ubuntu with 3.0
[07:15] <emr> i have script which i want to run every 09:09 am so i created cron job somethink like  -- 8 9 * * *  -- but its not working as i excepted, is there something wrong?
[07:16] <Myrtti> |Gff|: there is no release version of Ubuntu with 3.0 yet
[07:16] <susundberg> emr: Pass the full line please. Also check that the script is runnable for the user executing the cron
[07:16] <Myrtti> |Gff|: that's why
[07:17] <emr> susundberg, sure, 8 9 * * * cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py updatecurrencies
[07:17] <emr> scripts running perfectly
[07:17] <|Gff|> myrtti  what about other distro?
[07:18] <Myrtti> |Gff|: if you can wait for few weeks there is a new release of Ubuntu with 3.0, or you could try the beta release; be aware tho that beta is beta, it may break other things, and it's not supported on this channel
[07:19] <rabbi1> guys, please help my GRUB is not loading
[07:19] <Ibis> Myrtti: Wait, that will be Ubuntu 11.somethingNew     ?
[07:19] <susundberg> emr: and the problem excatly is that it seems like cron is not running the scripts or ?
[07:20] <rww> Ibis: 11.10. year.month
[07:20] <Myrtti> Ibis: well, yes. Ubuntu has a new version every six months
[07:20] <susundberg> emr: do you get mail from the cron output -- checking that might give you hint what is going wrong. I usually prefer doing small scripts (say cron_run_this.sh) that contains the commands and keep the crontab clean
[07:20] <susundberg> emr: that is i not sure how the line "cd /var/www/project/ && /usr/bin/python manage.py" is handled -- the "&&" marks
[07:20] <Ibis> emr: Why   8 9 * * *?               SHouldn't it be: 9 9 * * * ?
[07:21] <Lasers> Ibis: 11.10 Beta2 should be coming out today.
[07:21] <tensorpudding> what's the rules of freezes?
[07:21] <tensorpudding> will they fix the bugs that i've reported in beta 1...
[07:21] <tensorpudding> i hope so
[07:21] <Ibis> What's the difference between using        &              and      &&           in between terminal commands?
[07:21] <emr> susundberg, i have something like this, command logging to db when execute, and its seems working in wrong time  on every 12:08:02
[07:21] <Myrtti> Ibis: && waits for the first command to finish successfully
[07:22] <tensorpudding> && is for AND
[07:22] <Ibis> Ah, that makes sense Myrtti.       And      & is a "do it at the same time" Sweet.
[07:22] <rww> Ibis: they do completely different things. & moves the aforementioned process to the background and runs the second one in parallel. && runs the second one when the first one is done if and only if the first one exits with a non-error return value
[07:22] <emr> Ibis, i have a several scheduled command so its best slot to run
[07:22] <tensorpudding> doesn't it get the exit value of the first command and use that to determine whether to run the next, or something?
[07:22] <rabbi1> all of a sudden my ubuntu crashed (or kinda crashed) how can i solve it. nothing's working good... not even ALT-Ctrl-F1/ F2/ F3
[07:23] <emr> ohh men i didnt check server time, its utc, thanks susundberg i got the point
[07:24] <ssargennto> Hello all, got a WD external hdd that had a windows file system on it.. So i used gparted to format it with a ext4 file system but it says the hdd is owned by root and will not let me add/remove information on it.. I've tried changing permissions but no luck. Any ideas?
[07:25] <Ibis> Myrtti: Speaking of the whole 3.0 linux kernal, no one decided to jump ubuntu to that to iron out any kernal related bugs?
[07:25] <ikonia> ssargennto: could you please pastebin the output of "mount"
[07:27] <Myrtti> Ibis: jump which ubuntu? btw kernal is something that was in Commodore 8-bit, in Linux it's kernel ;-)
[07:28] <moskva> !ops
[07:28] <Flannel> moskva?
[07:28] <jpds> moskva: Да?
[07:28] <ssargennto> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/C7h8xTq9
[07:30] <rabbi1> how can i recover my ubuntu from crash , will other version LIVE CD will help me?
[07:31] <ikonia> ssargennto: I assume the disk is the one on /media/EXTERNAL
[07:31] <ikonia> rabbi1: depends on the reason it crashed
[07:31] <ssargennto> ikonia, yeah /dev/sdb1 on /media/External
[07:31] <ikonia> ssargennto: ok, so what is your username "tony" ?
[07:31] <ssargennto> ikonia, yup. correct
[07:32] <ikonia> ssargennto: so "sudo chown -R tony:tony /media/External"
[07:37] <rabbi1> ikonia: may be virtualbox
[07:37] <ikonia> rabbi1: what ?
[07:37] <iWang> is there any way to add an action key in grub2 for one function!
[07:37] <ssargennto> ikonia, thank you very much kind sir. works great now :)
[07:37] <ikonia> iWang: I don't think grub will support that as it's quite a dumb enviornment
[07:38] <rabbi1> ikonia: i had opened virtualbox and then openoffice application before it crashed. suddenly the screen went off. then i restarted,
[07:38] <rabbi1> now it says GRUB loading and doesn't load anything
[07:38] <iWang> just add a hotkey to invoke a program or small os to do something
[07:38] <ikonia> rabbi1: do you get the grub menu ?
[07:38] <rabbi1> ikonia: nope,
[07:39] <rabbi1> "GRUB Loading" and then blank screen
[07:39] <ikonia> rabbi1: I wonder if your disk has failed, can you boot from a livecd and mount the disk ?
[07:39] <rabbi1> even unable to get ctrl+alt + f1/f2
[07:39] <rabbi1> ikonia: trying that, burning a cd now
[07:40] <ikonia> rabbi1: you won't be able to use ctrl+alt on grub, it's not booted the OS yet
[07:40] <rabbi1> ikonia: yeah, now i can just see a cursor blinking on deep black screen
[07:41] <killjoy> Hello All
[07:41] <jeffery> hello
[07:42] <iWang> ikonia: i met before on BIOS+GPT system w/o biso_grub partition
[07:42] <ikonia> iWang: then that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:44] <killjoy> Im looking for people to help me write some Linux information content onto my site
[07:44] <ikonia> killjoy: try ##linux
[07:44] <rabbi1> ikonia: so, should check with CD now ?
[07:44] <killjoy> i did im just asking in here too
[07:45] <ikonia> rabbi1: at least see if you could mount it
[07:45] <killjoy> its www.planetrewired.com
[07:45] <rabbi1> ikonia: okies
[07:45] <ikonia> killjoy: please don't ask in here, we only do ubuntu support discussion in here
[07:45] <killjoy> oh ok
[07:45] <killjoy> sorry
[07:45] <ikonia> killjoy: and you didn't just ask in ##linux - so please don't lie
[07:45] <killjoy> whats your prob
[07:46] <killjoy> i havent made it there yet
[07:46] <ikonia> killjoy: then don't lie and say "I did ask in there, I'm asking here too"
[07:46] <killjoy>  ok im sorry im going too
[07:46] <killjoy> is that better?
[07:46] <ikonia> yes
[07:48] <SetiAmon> Anyway to make the original X-fi beta drivers to work with latest linux
[07:49] <AndroidLoverInSF> can anyone help, something on my ubuntu 10.10 is sharing my home dir as $username-home, example  john-home, and its readable by any pc!!  what's doing that?
[07:49] <SimonJai> samba?
[07:49] <SimonJai> or smb
[07:49] <SimonJai> ...maybe
[07:50] <AndroidLoverInSF> its not listed under the gui samba server config tool
[07:50] <ikonia> AndroidLoverInSF: do you have a smb.conf file ?
[07:50] <alter> приавд
[07:51] <AndroidLoverInSF> yes
[07:51] <idefix> are you all highly gifted?
[07:52] <AndroidLoverInSF> no
[07:52] <alter> приветик
[07:54] <scarleo> Is there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?
[08:01] <DaBing001> hello
[08:01] <DaBing001> the first time to come
[08:02] <Myrtti> DaBing001: welcome
[08:06] <AndroidLoverInSF> i look in /etc/smb.conf but cant find where its sharing that home dir. there's a [homes] section but thats not exactly it
[08:07] <burg> hello. what is the best partition scheme for ubuntu server?
[08:07] <Corey> !best
[08:07] <burg> a good partition scheme, then
[08:07] <Myrtti> burg: you need to be more precise with what you plan to do on that server
[08:08] <burg> web server. multiuser
[08:08] <Osky> hi LL
[08:08] <Myrtti> we don't know what you are planning to do so we can't suggest anything
[08:08] <SetiAmon> can anyone help me install the original beta drivers for x=fi.Pulse/oss4 is no where near as good as the original beta drivers.but they won't compile
[08:09] <Lasers> Is XFCE faster than GNOME or is it more of a myth?
[08:09] <Guest35270> hi !
[08:09] <Lasers> To be honest, I don't care. Just something stable for the netbook.
[08:09] <Guest35270> i am on ubuntu 9.10
[08:09] <gry> Lasers, both are stable for the netbook normally
[08:09] <burg> Myrtti, i intend to use it as a web server
[08:09] <Guest35270> and i want to upgrade release to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <Guest35270> but no release upgrade was proposed
[08:10] <Guest35270> how can i do the release ?
[08:10] <Lasers> !upgrade | Guest35270
[08:10] <rww> !eol
[08:10] <rww> second link
[08:11] <melvincv_> I have a small doubt: Will Evolution get corrupt on upgrading ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:11] <TeslaTony> Lasers: My experience with XFCE vs GNOME 2.x is that XFCE is faster, though not by too much most of the time (unless you turn on wiggly windows). GNOME 3 seems a lot slower
[08:11] <Lasers> Guest35270, melvincv_: Always make a backup! (Just because you ought to!)
[08:11] <rww> melvincv_: shouldn't do, but you should back up your files before upgrading as a general rule anyway
[08:12]  * ActionParsnip misses karmic
[08:12] <mosno> ActionParsnip, how so
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> mosno: it was a good release
[08:12] <Lasers> TeslaTony: I see. Thank you for the input.
[08:12] <melvincv_> 'Backup Evolution settings' is an option, but what all does it back up?
[08:12] <mosno> ActionParsnip, how so
[08:13] <melvincv_> Does it backup my mail too?
[08:13] <bilygates> @TeslaTony Lasers I prefer XFCE over GNOME too, but I couldn't get vsync to work in xfce at all. :(
[08:13] <Guest35270> i have done all instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:13] <Guest35270> but always end with a "no new release found"
[08:14] <TeslaTony> Lasers: Give 'em both a try, though. You might find there's something in one that the other doesn't, that tilts the scales for you, like bilygates comment
[08:14] <SetiAmon> anything wrong with going back to a older version of ubuntu like jaunty?
[08:14] <rww> SetiAmon: yes, you don't get security updates, or support here or officially
[08:14] <SetiAmon> I never had any problem with jaunty.would it be ok to go to 9.4 or 9.10?
[08:14] <melvincv_> Ok, how do I backup evolution completely, settings, contacts and mail?
[08:14] <Guest35270> 9.4 to 9.10 => OK
[08:14] <Lasers> TeslaTony: I'm going to sell it. That's why. I was thinking about EasyPeasy. Something simple and hogging-free for netbook.
[08:15] <Guest35270> butr 9.10 -> 10.4.3 = no new release found
[08:15] <melvincv_> !ubuntu 11.10
[08:15] <SetiAmon> i don't see how i have perfect audio in jaunty and then in later versions sound is wrecked
[08:15] <SetiAmon> that doesn't seem right.there must be a way to fix audio?
[08:16] <Luke_007> hi, i'm back
[08:16] <TeslaTony> Lasers, GNOME 2, XFCE, or LXDE. They're pretty headache-free
[08:16] <vAne> je
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: different drivers in the kernel, different alsa version
[08:23] <sl00> Gaah! I am going nuts! I have been compiling a program for days on one machine (using libc-2.12.1.so it seems), ftp'ing it to another machine and running it there. Now all of a sudden it complains about " /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found". How is that possible? I have not been doing any upgrades or anything on the machines!
[08:24] <Besnik_b> Hello, I'm having a problem with my eeePC touchpad. It worked for few days after installing Ubuntu 11.04 (naty) and after trying a wireless mouse it stopped working. It looks like working while doing the login but stops after that. Any hint?
[08:24] <Luke_007> Could anybody tell me how to search a package accurately by using commend?
[08:25] <mix228911> hello
[08:25] <mix228911> good morning
[08:26] <mix228911> linux rocks
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: 'search a package' how do you mean?
[08:26] <Luke_007> when I using apt-cache search , a lot of package come out but not what I needed.
[08:26] <OldBoyAdidas> hi, im interested in using ubuntu but havent used it yet
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: you can grep the output to reduce results
[08:26] <Guest35270> i can't upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:26] <Guest35270> so i try to remove  / install update-core-manger
[08:26] <Guest35270> i have that: http://pastebin.com/aD6QdEcN
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> OldBoyAdidas: the install CD will allow you to test the OS without modifying your current OS
[08:26] <Guest35270> idea ?
[08:27] <TeslaTony> OldBoyAdidas: What will it take to bring you over to the open source side? And yes, try the LiveCD. Or LiveUSB.
[08:27] <mix228911> rude boy
[08:27] <luca_> salve a tutti, qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[08:27] <Luke_007> ActionParsnip Oh, I'll try then
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: did you add the lines t sources.list like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  says to?
[08:28] <luca_> hello everyone, can someone help me?
[08:28] <rww> !it
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> luca_: with details, yes. Otherwise no
[08:28] <Guest35270> I am in 9.10
[08:29] <rww> Guest35270: what's the output of uname -a?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: same method
[08:29] <Guest35270> root@ltsp_a31:~# uname -a
[08:29] <Guest35270> Linux ltsp_a31 2.6.31-23-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:16:06 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:29] <elfranne> join #perl
[08:29] <rww> that disproves my theory, then
[08:30] <blinkiz> Hello. Am using ubuntu 11.04. The Network icon is missing from the unity panel. Network is also not working. Please advice
[08:30] <Lasers> LTS ._.
[08:30] <Lasers> LTSP*
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: the page I gave the link to shows how to upgrade. Personally I would just clean install Natty, or even Oneiric
[08:30] <mix228911> rude boy
[08:30] <Guest35270> ok update-manager-core installed but no more new release found
[08:30] <rww> mix228911: something we can help you with?
[08:30] <Guest35270> it's a production server
[08:30] <luca_> i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: read the page I linked, it tells you everything you need to know
[08:31] <Guest35270> i can clean install
[08:31] <Guest35270> can't*
[08:31] <Guest35270> i do every thing
[08:31] <Guest35270> but no new release proposed
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest35270: did you read the link at all?
[08:32] <Guest35270> yes
[08:35] <Luke_007> ActionParsnip e.g I wanna install a package named "DIA", I'm using command apt-cache search dia. Other packages whose name contains "dia" come out also.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: if you want to install dia then run:  sudo apt-get install dia
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: you don't need to search for it as you already know the package name
[08:37] <angelete2> hi
[08:37] <grandon> hmm
[08:37] <angelete2> i'm using ubuntu server 11.04 and i'm getting some performance problems
[08:37] <Luke_007> Oh, it works! Before it is installed. It shows what packages will be installed. Thanks a lot
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Luke_007: np :)
[08:37] <grandon> system info?
[08:37] <Luke_007> :)
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: in which app or just generally?
[08:38] <angelete2> i've installed into a virtual machine with 512Mb RAM (it's not so much, but i thought it was enough) and my apache sometimes refer me problems allocating memory
[08:39] <scarleo> Is there any way to see in beforehand if an update will require a reboot?
[08:39] <angelete2> i have another VM with fedora 7 256Mb and it works right
[08:40] <luca_> i am using ubuntu 11.04, my problem is that i recived a cad file via mail, when i try to open it with a cad software i get the message "impossible to open the file check the permissions
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: 512Mb should be ok for a web box imho
[08:40] <scarleo> I mean I know kernel updates require reboot but I mean like apt telling me before installing that the update will require a reboot
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> luca_: does your user have read access to the file?
[08:41] <angelete2> ActionParsnip, i thought so, but i don't know why i'm getting this errors
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: have you asked in #ubuntu-server too?
[08:41] <TeslaTony> scarleo: I don't believe so. I've never run into a situation, though, where the computer forces me to reboot before I can do anything
[08:41] <angelete2> maybe will be better, i didn't notice this channel, sorry
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: if you don't reboot it doesn't affect the OS, you just have a kernel update which needs one to load the new stuff, that'ss all. The OS can happily run fiorever more without you rebooting
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> angelete2: no need to apologise ;)
[08:42] <scarleo> TeslaTony: No oc it doesn't force me, it's not windoze we're talking abt, but it would still be sweet if it could tell me that it needs to reboot to complete the update before I actually do the update
[08:44] <eypal> hello, is here anybody from Canonical Ltd?
[08:44] <scarleo> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I can still see a point in being told before committing the update that it will require a reboot to complete
[08:44] <luca_> action partnership, yes, i have done the sudo chmod 777 file.dwg and tryed the sudo chmod 644 file.dwg too
[08:45] <Guest35270> i test everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[08:45] <Guest35270> and no new release found each time
[08:45] <Guest35270> wtf ?
[08:45] <mix228911> i don't know how to install "Kazam" software ,i've tryed to search it under software center & under termenal
[08:46] <Free-man> mornin
[08:46] <mix228911> morning
[08:46] <mix228911> sudo apt-get install kazam not work for me
[08:48] <Guest35270> anyone have a idea ?
[08:48] <Free-man> who has a distro non-specific prob
[08:48] <Free-man> non-distro specific
[08:48] <Guest35270> i put the sources.list with  old-releases  sources
[08:49] <Guest35270> but same
[08:49] <Guest35270> no new release proposed
[08:49] <jrib> !enter | Guest35270
[08:49] <jrib> Guest35270: what release are you currently on?
[08:49] <Guest35270> i'm currently in 9.10
[08:49] <jrib> Guest35270: what did you put in your sources.list?
[08:49] <Free-man> Guest35270 IOW, write english sentences :)
[08:49] <m1ndsurfer> What repository do I have to add so I can install Apache Ant 2.2 from Synaptic in Ubuntu 10.4? (it's hard to google for...)
[08:50] <Guest35270> sorry for my poor englis
[08:50] <TeslaTony> mix228911, try http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/kazam-0-1-released/ and follow the instructions
[08:50] <Free-man> Guest35270 use punctuation :)
[08:50] <Guest35270> root@ltsp_a31:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <Guest35270> ## EOL upgrade sources.list
[08:50] <Guest35270> # Required
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <FloodBot1> Guest35270: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Guest35270> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-security main restricted universe multiverse
[08:50] <Free-man> [,.?;:]
[08:50] <jrib> Guest35270: close update-manager, run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ».  What happens?
[08:50] <Free-man> well, that's redundant
[08:51] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/mCWduUND
[08:52] <jrib> Guest35270: now run « gksu update-manager »
[08:53] <Guest35270> "Your system is up-to-date"
[08:53] <jrib> Guest35270: there is no button near the top offering a distribution upgrade?
[08:54] <eypal> Anyone from Canonical Ltd?  I have a kind of business related thing on my mind but have troubles in getting contact..
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[08:54] <Free-man> not i
[08:54] <Free-man> eypal ^
[08:55] <rww> eypal: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[08:56] <eypal> rww, thank you for that. unfortunately I have tried those ways but months has passed and no replies.. :(
[08:56] <Free-man> eypal why not phone them?
[08:57] <Guest35270> no button.
[08:58] <jrib> Guest35270: pastebin /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:58] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/K2R0rGqf
[08:59] <mix228911> TeslaTony: Kazam not showing at Software Center
[08:59] <jrib> Guest35270: why root prompt?
[08:59] <mix228911> what to do?
[08:59] <ljsoftnet> i just installed crossover games, how do i run it?
[09:00] <mix228911> TeslaTony
[09:00] <Guest35270> because i have a ssh connection in root (more easy to pastebin). theOther screen is a vnc connection to server
[09:00] <arun__> what is the difference between linux and ubuntu
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> arun__: linux is only the kernel. Ubuntu is a distribution with Linux at its core
[09:00] <jrib> Guest35270: ok, you're running update-manager as user though?  What's in ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release?
[09:01] <Free-man> arun__ linux is the kernel; Ubuntu (any distro name) is the "model"; like car-maker, year-model
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: open your windows binaries with the crossover app. You should check the compatibility pages to see what wil run with crossover
[09:01] <Guest35270> http://pastebin.com/47HJTWHe
[09:01] <TeslaTony> mix228911, you might need to tell the software center to update. Open up terminal and type in "sudo apt-get update"
[09:02] <Guest35270> ok it's work
[09:02] <Guest35270>  !
[09:02] <jrib> Guest35270: ok
[09:02] <Guest35270> metarelease update !
[09:03] <mix228911> what is PPA?
[09:03] <rww> !ppa
[09:04] <arun__> wonder what is the equivalent of exe in windows in ubuntu
[09:04] <jrib> arun__: a file marked executable
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> arun__: the exe files are executable binariers, there are plenty in /usr/bin
[09:05] <mix228911> what "Just add our daily builds PPA:" means?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> mix228911: daily build of what?
[09:05] <TeslaTony> mix228911, Ah. Try copying "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:and471/kazam-daily-builds && sudo apt-get update" to your command line
[09:05] <jrib> mix228911: it means a project provides a ppa as described by ubottu above and are suggesting you add it to your sources.list
[09:06] <mix228911> TeslaTony: thanks alot
[09:07] <mix228911> jrib:  ok
[09:07] <mix228911> thanks
[09:07] <TeslaTony> mix228911, hope it worked
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> arun__: the commands like apt-get are executable binaries
[09:08] <mix228911> TeslaTony: it's not
[09:09] <connex> Hi, how can i disable printer dialog and print silently?
[09:09] <TeslaTony> mix228911: What happened when you ran the command?
[09:09] <mix228911> O:-) i'm rest in pice
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> anyone has a solution for the kworker bug? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-717919%5D-re-acpi-kworker-high-interrupts-134097/
[09:10] <arun__> what is cygwin?
[09:10] <mix228911> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en
[09:10] <mix228911> Fetched 11.3 kB in 2s (4,027 B/s)
[09:10] <mix228911> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <TeslaTony> mix228911: Looks like it worked, then.  Nothing like mixing stimulants after fiddling with the command line. Anyways, the basic parts of those commands will be very handy for you when adding software, and worth knowing
[09:16] <smokky> how to change regulatory domain on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[09:17] <ismail_karn> hello!
[09:18] <ismail_karn> I need a portable Wine and any new version of Chromium Browser. Where can i find them?
[09:19] <gry> chromium is in the software center and updates for it are in the update manager, ismail_karn
[09:19] <gry> portable Wine.. don't think there is a thing like that
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ismail_karn: there is the daily chromium ppa build if you like?
[09:19] <ismail_karn> gry: i know. thank you. but i need portable. (also wine is on software center)
[09:20] <ismail_karn> ActionParsnip: no thank you. i need any (10+ version) portable.
[09:20] <gry> ismail_karn, try to ask #winehq about that ?
[09:20] <ismail_karn> gry: oh yes. i will.
[09:20] <Ibis> ismail_karn: Do you really need to run windows on linux without using virtualbox? (Hey, if your computer fast, and you have at least 1.5GB of ram, VB is better).