[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:49] <ubuntun00b> Hi all. I hosed my ubuntu installation. I'm trying to reinstall using the xenial daily image. I have to choose manual install with everything on one drive. I DONT want to delete my home folder. Do i have to set my partition mount point to '/' and NOT check the format box. is that all I have to do and ubuntu will reinstall and keep all my data?
[08:50] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: You rather want to create a seperate /home and sync all the data to there.
[08:53] <ubuntun00b> there is no option to do that. it wouldn't give me the option to upgrade my installation. i don't see that option anywhere. are you saying i should rename my /home partition first?
[08:53] <lordievader> The option is there, it is just more manual work ;)
[08:54] <lordievader> You resize your current root-fs, create a new /home, sync all the stuff. Then set the installer to format the root-fs and mount the /home to /home.
[08:56] <ubuntun00b> why resize the partition? isn't that more risky than just using the existing partition but just don't format anything?
[08:56] <jtaylor> lordievader: I think / needs to always be formatted
[08:56] <lordievader> jtaylor: No, but it is recommended to format /.
[08:57] <jtaylor> else installation would just overwrite stuff and leave other stuff leading to a likely broken installation
[08:57] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: You can, but the install can be unpredicatable.
[08:58] <jtaylor> I'd just do a backup and restore after installtion
[08:58] <lordievader> That is another way to go.
[08:59] <ubuntun00b> i don't have enough disk space to create 2 partitions. i'd have to backup to an external disk but it's ntfs. I'd lose all my file permissions. I'd like to avoid that if possible
[08:59] <jtaylor> ubuntun00b: backup in a tarball
[08:59] <jtaylor> also get another disk for backups then, you should not use computers without regular backups
[09:00] <jtaylor> especially when messing with dev releases :)
[09:01] <ubuntun00b> ok. I'll take a file backup and then a tar backup just to be safe. but back to my original question. once my backup is done. There's no way to install ubuntu without deleting the partition?
[09:02] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: Like we said, you can, but it ain't recommended.
[09:02] <jtaylor> deleting everything but home from a live-cd then installing might work (if it allows you to skip the formating step)
[09:03] <jtaylor> you can try, if you ahve backups worst that happens is you ahve to install twice when it doesn't work
[09:04] <ubuntun00b> do i have to choose a mount point or set no mount point or rename my /home folder? does nobody know for sure?
[09:12] <lordievader> I don't fully understand the question...
[10:53] <alex__> hello, I have an error while building unity. Is this the right place to ask? If not I'll not make a pastebin or similar report
[10:56] <ikonia> building ?
[11:06] <lordievader> Don't think many people in here actually build unity themselves.
[11:06] <elhoir> hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu 16.04 will bring LLVM 3.7 enabled? (i would want to have OpenGL 4.x support :P )
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[20:10] <hggdh> meanwhile, software-updated insists in installing some packages that apt insists in stating are not in use and can be auto-removable...
[20:12] <BluesKaj> the software update gui is slow to see what apt sees
[20:12] <BluesKaj> in dkg
[20:13] <BluesKaj> dpkg rather
[20:18] <hggdh> yeah. So I apt-get autoremove, and the packages are gone. Later on I apt-get update and... lo and behold, s-u now wants to install the packages again. Rinse & repeat, ad nauseum
[20:18] <hggdh> fun
[20:19] <BluesKaj> is it a ppa
[20:20] <BluesKaj> also run autoclean
[21:00] <hggdh> BluesKaj: yes, seems autoremove did the trick. Sort of surprising.


[06:28] <rick_h__> wheeee
[06:28] <rick_h__> wifi at 100mph on a train through Germany
[13:50]  * cmaloney finally created a RAID1 on his system
[14:24] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/2cyk9l/the_curse_of_vim/
[14:24] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/CjcJGN - Too Many Requests
[17:09] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[19:09] <skellat> cmaloney: Are you busy?
[19:38] <cmaloney> skellat: What's up?
[21:53] <skellat> cmaloney: Gonna make it south to Ohio Linux Fest?  OLF organizers are getting insistent on us providing a speakers roster for an UbuCon if we still want one and anybody we've asked have begged off.
[21:54] <cmaloney> I was just looking at their site and haven't seen anywhere to register. :)
[21:54] <cmaloney> Re: Ubucon: when is it?
[23:26] <skellat> cmaloney: UbuCon would be Friday, October 24th
[23:26] <skellat> cmaloney: OLF whole event would be October 24-26
[23:27] <skellat> cmaloney: I have a suspicion that Ubuntu Ohio is going to withdraw from presenting UbuCon as we've had quite a number of potential speakers turning us down
[23:34] <brousch> ubucon?
[23:52] <skellat> brousch: UbuCon is typically an *buntu-themed component to a Linux event that a LoCo often sponsors and puts on.  The Ohio LoCo is coming up empty trying to plan & schedule one for Ohio Linux Fest 2014 unless we manage to secure an entire roster of speakers in roughly one hour's time.
[23:55] <brousch> heh


[04:32] <gorilla> Does anyone know if Victoria is getting involved in SFD this year?
[06:16] <benonsoftware> head_victim: Hay


[00:56] <swift110_> hewy
[10:58] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[11:01] <JonathanS> Morning.


[10:54] <xnox> can I use lp:foo syntax, but force using un-authenticated / http access?
[11:16] <jelmer> xnox: if I remember correctly, we talked about that but never implemented it


[01:15] <macogw> Ubulette: thank you!
[01:15] <Ubulette> np
[09:11] <Mirv> asac: hi. any plan on when to include the Finnish and Russian translations for ubufox? (the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/139380 )
[09:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139380 in ubufox "Untranslated strings in ubufox" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:12] <Mirv> also, the https://code.launchpad.net/ubufox/ page is a bit fuzzy with so many branches.. is "main" or "ubuntu" the trunk, or which..
[09:13] <Mirv> Danial Abmarov's branch has the ru-ru and fi-FI locales, so they could be merged from there most easily
[09:15] <asac> Mirv: yes we should clean up the ubufox branches
[09:15] <asac> the point about the translations is that it should be done by rosetta
[09:15] <asac> (for hardy)
[09:15] <asac> in gutsy it was my fault
[09:18] <Mirv> yep, Rosetta is easier for most, I originally provided those indeed for gutsy
[11:43] <asac_> damn connection
[12:01] <asac>  \o/ i am back
[12:03] <asac> well ... not for long as it looks like
[14:15] <asac> Ubulette_: which changes did you want to land for the b1 update?
[14:15] <asac> let me know ... i could pull them for this update
[14:15] <asac> or are those b2 only?
[14:16]  * asac gateway updated ... rebooting
[14:35] <persia> Hi.  I'm just trolling lintian output, and wanted to request a Maintainer: change from "Ubuntu-Mozilla-Team" to "Ubuntu Mozilla Team" to address some of http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/lintian/reports/Tmaintainer-not-full-name.html
[14:36] <asac> ok so its just sunbird?
[14:38] <persia> Well, 4 packages, but it looks that way.  I don't know how the sources are organised.
[14:39] <asac> same source
[14:40] <persia> Easy then :)  Thanks.
[14:40] <asac> persia: fixed in bzr
[14:41] <persia> Excellent!  Now to do something about the rest of the output :)
[15:04] <asac> xulrunner MIR submitted
[15:04] <asac> lets see
[17:11] <bluekuja> asac, ciao alex
[17:11] <bluekuja> Ubulette_, seamonkey accepted
[17:12] <bluekuja> if you didnt notice
[17:12] <asac> bluekuja: yes ... thanks
[17:12] <bluekuja> asac, sorry for the delay
[19:50] <Ubulette> hi
[21:45] <janimo> Ubulette: do you know what --enable-safe-browsing does in xulrunner-1.9 config options?
[21:46] <janimo> Ubulette: removing it made pyxpcom work fine whereas it crashed if left in. This is with the OLPC browser's python interface to xulrunner
[21:51] <Ubulette> that's the anti-fishing feature
[21:54] <Ubulette> janimo, did you open a bug upstream ?
[21:54] <janimo> didn;t cross my mind TBH
[21:55] <janimo> I am not sure it's an upstream bug or feature or caused by ubuntu patches or what
[21:56] <Ubulette> i don't think it's our patches
[23:15] <asac> ok back :)
[23:15] <asac> where is janimo?
[23:15] <asac> who is janimo?
[23:15] <asac> :=
[23:15] <asac> :)
[23:16] <Ubulette> the guys doing Sugar debs
[23:16] <Ubulette> -s
[23:16] <asac> ah
[23:16] <asac> so url-classifier breaks pyxpcom?
[23:16] <asac> strange
[23:16] <Ubulette> he said safe-browsing
[23:16] <asac> well ... we don't build with safe browsing, but url-classifier
[23:16] <asac> so i think its the classifier :)
[23:17]  * asac wonders if the problem is still there with our branch
[23:17] <Ubulette> we *do* safe browsing
[23:17] <asac> in xul?
[23:17] <Ubulette> yep
[23:18] <asac> oh right ... we should use --enable-url-classifier ... but its the same from what i saw in code
[23:18] <asac> (same for xul)
[23:19] <asac> lets wait for him to return :)
[23:22] <Ubulette> still no advocate for prism
[23:23] <asac> really?
[23:23] <asac> didn't persia look at it?
[23:24] <Ubulette> persia said it's a really good package but he can't test it as he's not a user of the webapps web sites
[23:24] <Ubulette> he did the review, but no test
[23:26] <asac> did he comment on revu?
[23:27] <Ubulette> he contacted me by email
[23:27] <Ubulette> and we've discussed a lot on irc
[23:27] <Ubulette> but my last update has no comment at all
[23:28] <asac> ok i will try to remember to bug him tomorrow on that
[23:28] <asac> he should drop his packaging comments
[23:28] <asac> to revu
[23:28] <asac> then we will find a sponsor
[23:29] <Ubulette> he's in JST so he'll be here soon
[23:30] <asac> JST?
[23:30] <Ubulette> it's 8:30am JST
[23:30] <asac> what corner of the world is that?
[23:30] <asac> must be pretty boring there :)
[23:30] <Ubulette> japan
[23:30] <asac> oh
[23:30] <asac> ok
[23:30] <asac> Japan standard time :)
[23:30] <asac> well i will probably be off ... but i think he is a hobbiest ... so best to catch in his after work hours ... aka tomorrow
[23:31] <Ubulette> i should try my japanese on him ;)
[23:31] <asac> hehe
[23:31] <asac> if its not too bad :)
[23:32] <Ubulette> in fact, he said "I live on JST", not i'm in japan or i'm japanese so I don't know if he speaks japanese at all ;)
[23:33] <asac> yeah :)
[23:35] <asac> probably he just has adjusted his day-live to be night-live and vv
[23:35] <asac> @time tokyo
[23:35] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Tokyo: December 05 2007, 08:35:29 - Next meeting: Xubuntu meeting in 20 hours 54 minutes
[23:37] <Ubulette> install intlclock :)
[23:37] <asac> heh
[23:37] <asac> :)
[23:38] <asac> i am happy with the bot ;)
[23:39] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/intlclock.png
[23:39] <asac> if we cannot get feedback from persia, i can sponsor prism
[23:40] <asac> we already achieved what we wanted ... get them to know you
[23:40] <asac> if we do that a few more times they know you good enough ;)
[23:40] <Ubulette> I can post seamonkey 1.1.7 there too
[23:41] <asac> isn't it NEWed already?
[23:41] <asac> bluekuja said it was NEWed
[23:43] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/1.1.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[23:44] <asac> ok .... but the bins for i386 are not in NEw
[23:44] <asac> so they should be available already
[23:44] <asac>  \o/
[23:44] <Ubulette> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/seamonkey/
[23:44] <Ubulette> strange
[23:44] <asac> hmm ... lets review that tomorrow :)
[23:48] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=seamonkey
[23:49] <asac> yes ... looks good
[23:51] <asac> are you interested in security ?
[23:51] <Ubulette> that's part of my real job
[23:51] <asac> the one thing i like about mozilla is that its big enough ... has had enough security issues to pursue statistical analysis on it :)
[23:52] <asac> http://www.st.cs.uni-sb.de/softevo/vulnerabilities.php
[23:52] <asac> its not the first paper that looks into security stats based on mozilla :)
[23:53] <asac> http://www.st.cs.uni-sb.de/publications/files/neuhaus-tr-2007.pdf
[23:53] <asac> thats the actual paper
[23:53] <Ubulette> nice chart
[23:57] <Ubulette> interesting
[23:59] <asac> yeah ... i find table 1 on page 5 interesting .)
[23:59] <asac> i remember how much pain it was to backport security fixes for nsCSSFrameConstructor
[23:59] <asac> and how easy all those js things were
[23:59] <asac>  :)


[09:45] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[21:30] <princedimond> (jedijf): radio has been dead in the morning where u been man? :P
[21:39] <jedijf> princedimond: i'm a half hour later in the Summer! Sleep in until 5am, so I hit radio at 6 - you're probably done by then. September is right around corner, I'll be on the air 5:30'ish
[21:39] <princedimond> sweet thats the time i have been getting out of work lately
[21:40] <princedimond> although i have been up somewhat later the last few days ... if im up past 6 ill try to hit u on kzed?
[21:42] <jedijf> princedimond: i scan, been stopping at philmont 147.030 some commuters are chatting it up. I scan and just stop when I hear talk. Then sandbag....My pineapple came in yesterday
[21:44] <jedijf> princedimond: 3x Ralink USB WiFi RT5370 - Ralink USB WiFi RT5370 for $9.99 each
[21:44] <jedijf> 1x 16dBi Yagi Antenna - Yagi for $19.99 each
[21:44] <jedijf> 1x WiFi Pineapple - TETRA Tactical for $249.99 each
[21:50] <princedimond> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:51] <princedimond> yeah i want wifi pinapple
[21:51] <princedimond> ive been putting openwrt on all my routers lol
[21:53] <princedimond> just redid a network over the weekend... with 2 routers one being a repeater for a 3 story home where the modem is in the basement and didnt want to run wires so its a wireless repeater :)
[21:56] <jedijf> yeah i'm in the shack on the third leg
[21:58] <jedijf> modem and router in living room -->wired to hacking den--->wireless to shack at back of yard (and wired ghetto directly to Fusion node) **too lazy to grab another ethernet cable LOL
[22:06] <princedimond> LOL hilarious
[22:06] <princedimond> ive got tons laying around haha
[22:07] <princedimond> i have a router set up as a wireless repeater hooked into my desktop as a lazy mans wireless card LOL


[13:24] <siva> Hi. I am trying to deploy OpenStack on ubuntu 14.04 using canonical autopilot. I am following http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-openstack-with-autopilot. Selected “Install” to start building your cloud. I hope maximum the installation process will take 20 to 30 minutes. But for me it has been taking too much time. I started before 3 hours. Still installation process going on. Showing 1% done.
[13:25] <siva> On selected hardware it deployed OS and bootstrapped Juju. All services installation in progress.
[13:26] <siva> Why it was taking too much time.
[13:26] <siva> Please tell me the reason if anyone familiar with this issue.
[14:08] <siva> Where I can found cloud services installation logs?
[16:56] <siva> Log details: http://paste.openstack.org/show/547811/.


[15:39] <czajkowski> c
[15:44] <tdr112> d
[15:45] <czajkowski> tdr112: howdy
[15:45] <tdr112> so czajkowski do you work from home with this new job of yours
[15:47] <czajkowski> yup
[15:47] <czajkowski> though i was in millbank yesterday
[15:47] <czajkowski> going to go in once a week
[15:48] <tdr112> how many peeps are in the london place
[15:48] <tdr112> must be a lot now
[15:49] <czajkowski> aye no idea on mumbers tbh
[15:49] <czajkowski> some like me go in some days
[15:49] <czajkowski> others are there full time
[15:49] <czajkowski> and they have hot desks so people cna go in and work
[15:50] <tdr112> ah , so whats it like to work remotly
[15:52] <czajkowski> good
[15:53] <czajkowski> just gotta make sure you get up and get dressed and presentable the way you would for work
[15:53] <czajkowski> as I have conf calls during the day
[15:53] <czajkowski> big thing I need to learn is to take a lunch break
[15:53] <czajkowski> and remember to get up and stretch
[15:53] <tdr112> do you have an office or desk at home set up
[15:54] <czajkowski> not at present will do in the future, have converted the breakfast counter we dont use to a mini office
[15:54] <czajkowski> as it has a pin board to my right
[15:54] <czajkowski> have my phone set up for voip
[15:54] <czajkowski> and my notebooks there
[15:55] <tdr112> ah right , i worked in an office but alone for 4 weeks (apart from one day a week ) I did not like it
[15:56] <czajkowski> I plonk some music and make a large tea and just sit down and get to it th
[15:56] <czajkowski> then at 11:30 I've a team call
[15:56] <czajkowski> and then other times I need to call others via G+hangouts
[15:56] <czajkowski> and then chat at get it done
[15:59] <ebel> yeah, i imagine working from home can be isolating
[15:59] <ebel> good to get out and about every day
[16:00] <czajkowski> yup
[16:00] <czajkowski> making an effort to go for a short walk at lunch now the weather is nicer
[16:01] <ebel> and presume it would be good to have an office, so you can 'close the door' on work at the end of the day
[16:09] <czajkowski> aye
[19:36] <infoturtle> hey guys, got the room booked in UL for the UGJ, going to add it to events later
[20:05] <tdr112> great stuff infoturtle


[20:22] <ChinnoDog> marcoceppi: I need a new roomie. Know anyone that wants to live in this neighborhood?
[20:22] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: Nof off the top of my head, I'll keep my ears out
[20:24] <ChinnoDog> Thanks.
[22:00] <adom> hey guysremind me the location again please?
[22:02] <ChinnoDog> Oh yea, that is today
[22:03] <adom> haha Were getting food first
[22:04] <ChinnoDog> It is on the same street as Lost Dog
[22:04] <ChinnoDog> at Crave
[22:08] <adom> k WereHeading that way, just going to grab food somewhere nearby there
[22:44] <marcoceppi> ChinnoDog: I'll be heading over in about 10 mins
[22:44] <ChinnoDog> k, see you there
[23:05] <adom> Were at black finn eating a sandwich. by over right after.
[23:05] <adom> be*
[23:05]  * adom is on his phone.
[23:31] <marcoceppi> adom: cool, we're in crave
[23:40] <adom> Were Heading over Now. well bethe two geeks with Laptops.


[11:21] <cmaloney> morning
[12:27] <rick_h_> morning
[12:39] <cmaloney> How's the day?
[12:39] <rick_h_> it's early so I'll give it a chance
[12:39] <rick_h_> :P
[12:40] <cmaloney> Heh
[12:40] <cmaloney> Welcome back
[12:40] <cmaloney> :)
[15:25] <cmaloney> Just got laid off.


[05:40] <dablitz> good eveing
[05:41] <dablitz> I would like to adjust "wait for network to be configured" in server 20.04 to 10 seconds. could someone direct me to a how-to or provide som insight on how I can do that?
[05:44] <dablitz> I found a post for 17.10. But i do not think that will work in 20.04? I would lust like some confirmation
[05:51] <dablitz> anyone?
[06:09] <dablitz> would :
[06:09] <dablitz> Don't mask or disable the systemd service.
[06:09] <dablitz> Edit /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml and add optional: true to any devices that may not always be available.
[06:09] <dablitz> sudo netplan apply
[06:09] <dablitz> work for me????
[06:50] <eoli3n> Hi
[06:50] <eoli3n> TJ- yesterday i tried to chmod 777 which worked
[06:51] <eoli3n> so lets fix your fix
[06:51] <eoli3n> :)
[07:07] <dablitz> I would like to adjust "wait for network to be configured" in server 20.04 to 10 seconds. could someone direct me to a how-to or provide som insight on how I can do that?
[08:23] <eoli3n> TJ- chmod og+x /exports/focal was missing (facepalm)
[08:24] <eoli3n> thanks for your help TJ-
[08:24] <eoli3n> :)
[08:29] <dablitz> eoli3n, would you be able to help with my question
[08:30] <eoli3n> where is printed "wait..." ?
[08:30] <eoli3n> at startup ?
[08:30] <dablitz> yes during boot
[08:30] <eoli3n> so that a systemd target
[08:30] <eoli3n> no time on it
[08:30] <dablitz> I have 2 Nic and it takes almost 3 minutes because of that
[08:31] <dablitz> to boot
[08:31] <eoli3n> you issue is elsewhere
[08:31] <eoli3n> your
[08:31] <eoli3n> 2 NIC doesnt take 3 min to be configured
[08:31] <eoli3n> you misconfigured one or both
[08:31] <eoli3n> i do have two NIC on my current ubuntu server test, and i don't wait any second to boot
[08:31] <dablitz> only one is connected and it is DHCP
[08:31] <eoli3n> you need to debug this
[08:32] <eoli3n> can you open a tty2 ?
[08:32] <dablitz> yup
[08:33] <eoli3n> so check syslog, dmesg, journalctl -u networking
[08:33] <eoli3n> journalctl -u systemd-networkd if your install use it
[08:33] <eoli3n> don't know what network manager is used by defaut on ubuntu server
[08:42] <dablitz> right now it is saying "A start job is running for Wait for Network to be Configured (47s / no limit)" <--- this continues to almost 3 minutes before moving on. I want to net the no limit to 10 seconds if it were possible
[08:53] <eoli3n> that's not what you want
[08:54] <eoli3n> you want systemd to drop the configuration of the non used interface
[08:54] <eoli3n> why is that interface on the host if not configured ?
[08:54] <eoli3n> systemd should not stuck on this
[08:54] <eoli3n> you need to find what's happening
[08:55] <eoli3n> https://askubuntu.com/a/1110474
[08:55] <eoli3n> i just copied/pasted your msg...
[09:32] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:53] <eoli3n> Hi
[12:53] <eoli3n> how to run multiple commands with cloud-config late_command
[12:54] <eoli3n> i mean a script
[12:54] <eoli3n> not as a list
[12:54] <eoli3n> with ansible you can do something like shell: |
[13:22] <dablitz> I figured it out.
[13:31] <eoli3n> i wanted to know how...
[15:23] <shecki> hi, I want to setup autoinstall and have trouble getting the network part right. problem is, the user-data should match a lot of systems with different number of network interfaces, so I don't know which ones will be present and I need a config that just looks for active link and configure these with dhcp but leaves all other untouched. is this doable or do I need to know which interface is up and running and if I need to know that, is
[15:23] <shecki> there a possibility to just ignore all other devices?


[11:05] <seb128> those upgrade bugs are so annoying
[11:05] <seb128> gedit failed to install due to an error 139, that's not a gedit bug!
[12:58] <maxb> I've disabled the desktop login sound in gnome-sound-properties, but it still plays. Could someone nudge me toward the appropriate package in launchpad to check for bugs, and give me any hints about how to debug this?
[12:59] <kwwii> maxb: the sounds are set in the ubuntu-sounds package
[13:00] <maxb> Yes, but that's principally just media files, they get interpreted and played by something else
[13:00] <kwwii> right
[13:01] <maxb> gnome-sound-properties looks like it has written appropriate stuff in ~/.local/share/sounds/__custom/, and the gconf key is specifying the __custom theme
[13:01] <maxb> yet the sound still plays
[13:02] <kwwii> freaky
[15:36] <tedg> pitti, seb128, Are you guys following DevKit-power?  Do you expect it to be in Jaunty?
[15:36] <seb128> no, and no idea about that
[16:34] <NCommander> seb128, poke?
[16:34] <seb128> NCommander: hey
[16:34] <NCommander> seb128, any plans to fix libgtk2-perl?
[16:35] <seb128> don't ask me, I don't do perl updates ;-)
[16:35] <NCommander> Who would?
[16:35] <seb128> I didn't know that it was broken
[16:35] <NCommander> The test suite is causing a FTBFS
[16:35] <seb128> aren't we on sync on debian for those?
[16:35] <NCommander> (it passes fine on real hardware, but the buildd enviornment causing it to go boom)
[16:36] <NCommander> I think so
[16:36] <seb128> I would ask on #ubuntu-devel rather
[16:36] <NCommander> The last sync broke it on powerpc and sparc
[16:36] <NCommander> The next one broke it everywhere :-)
[16:37] <seb128> what error?
[16:38] <NCommander> seb128, the test suite tries to draw windows with GTK
[16:38] <NCommander> for obvious reasons this fails on the buildds
[16:38] <seb128> weird
[16:38] <seb128> usually xvfb-run is used for such things
[16:38] <NCommander> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19651936/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.libgtk2-perl_1%3A1.190-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:38] <NCommander> it is
[16:38] <seb128> so that's not obvious why it fails on the buildd
[16:39] <NCommander> pretty much
[16:39] <NCommander> When I tried it here, it didn't FTBFS
[16:39] <seb128> try asking lool
[16:39] <seb128> he did workaround such issues for pygtk before intrepid
[16:39] <NCommander> Thanks
[16:39] <seb128> or look to the pygtk changes he did
[16:41] <seb128> NCommander: try to -no-reset thing mentionned in the changelog maybe
[16:41] <seb128> NCommander: you can probably do ppa uploads to try
[16:41] <NCommander> no-reset?
[16:41] <NCommander> which changelog?
[16:41] <seb128> read the pygtk changelog
[16:41] <seb128> the one is the debian directory
[16:41] <seb128> apt-get source pygtk
[16:41] <seb128> cd pygtk-version
[16:42] <seb128> cd debian
[16:42] <seb128> editor changelog
[16:42] <NCommander> seb128, do you have an issues with the ARM porters team doing uploads of GNOME packages to fix porting issues? (I just don't want step on anyones toes as we work on porting main :-))
[16:43] <seb128> NCommander: you can upload to main now? ;-)
[16:43] <NCommander> Nope
[16:43] <NCommander> But I've kidnapped a few sponsors
[16:43] <seb128> NCommander: no issue no, other people have been doing uploads and the desktop team is not actively working on jaunty yet
[16:43] <NCommander> Perfect
[16:43] <NCommander> Thanks
[16:44] <seb128> you're welcome
[16:44] <NCommander> I'll make sure to keep you in the loop if we need to do anything EVIL :-)
[16:45] <seb128> right
[16:45] <seb128> or better, don't do anything evil ;-)
[20:56] <chrisccoulson> ping pitti - i just sent bug 298777 upstream. would you like me to prepare a revised debdiff with the upstream bug number in the patch?
[22:04] <Arby> anybody around with a decent knowledge of cups config?
[22:04] <Arby> I'm doing some work on system-config-printer-kde for kubuntu


[03:11] <xannen> Will Canonical stop java support after Oct 2012?  -- Just a message quoted from Software Center.
[09:00] <jamespage> Hi xannen
[09:01] <jamespage> 11.10 might just ship with eclipse 3.7 (working on that ATM)
[09:04] <xannen> Thank you jamespage.  Do you know about future support for openjdk, or JavaFX?
[09:04] <jamespage> xannen: with regards to Canonical stopping support - I suspect that is the end-of-support date for that Ubuntu release
[09:04] <jamespage> rather than java itself
[09:04] <jamespage> are you running 11.04 ATM?
[09:04] <xannen> Yes I am on 11.04.
[09:04] <jamespage> OK - so thats when support stops for 11.04
[09:05] <jamespage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ has the supported until dates (right at the bottom)