[10:30] <libellulelly> what am i doing wrong? :)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> libellulelly: don'y you have a dhcp server in your network already?
[10:31] <libellulelly> no
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> libellulelly: like a router?
[10:31] <libellulelly> the only active is that one i configured
[10:31] <libellulelly> and it works
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> libellulelly: gotcha
[10:32] <tenX> libellulelly: pxe?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> tenX: network boot
[10:32] <libellulelly> the issue is about the location of the file i think
[10:33] <dr_willis> or permissions  on the file perhaps.
[10:33] <tenX> ActionParsnip: yeah that was my thought. too long ago from my side
[10:34] <cntb> !unity
[10:34] <libellulelly> this is the dhcpd.conf
[10:34] <libellulelly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1080957/
[10:34] <cntb> !notunity
[10:34] <libellulelly> owner root and that's ok
[10:35] <Han_> hello
[10:35] <Case_> I am hoping someone can help me.  I am running 12.04 64bit Server.  Anytime the server is rebooted, I have to run "echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null" to get anything to work in apt-get. (install, update, or upgrade)  does anyone have any idea what would cause this?
[10:35] <Han_> a question
[10:35] <tenX> libellulelly: well just guessing but could it be a path issue?
[10:35] <Han_> is it possible to deactivate the network function
[10:35] <oCean> cntb: you can /msg ubottu !unity to use the bot in private
[10:35] <Han_> by faulty entering sleep mode?
[10:35] <libellulelly> i placed the netboot.tar.gz in /var/lib/tftpboot and then untar it in that place
[10:35] <Han_> I mean
[10:35] <Han_> first of all
[10:35] <tenX> libellulelly: the err indicates it, wrong server/path/imagename?
[10:35] <Han_> entering sleep does not work
[10:36] <Han_> then rebooting
[10:36] <oCean> Han_: please keep your questions/responses in single line
[10:36] <SolarisBoy> Case_: how do you assign  IP's? dynamic ? static?
[10:36] <dr_willis> Han_:  sleep and hibernate can 'break' some hardware drivers.  so yes
[10:36] <Case_> Static
[10:36] <libellulelly> pxelinux.0 in /var/lib/tftpboot is a symbolic link that points to /ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.0
[10:36] <libellulelly> i tried to substitute it
[10:36] <libellulelly> but
[10:36] <libellulelly> no results
[10:36] <Han_> dr_willis thank you  do you know how to repair the driver?
[10:37] <oCean> libellulelly: please try to keep your posts in single line, not using enter after every few words
[10:37] <SolarisBoy> Case_: do you use network manager for static addressing?
[10:37] <tenX> libellulelly: how does it work via pxe? what vars are supplied? dont remember
[10:37] <libellulelly> ok oCean :)
[10:37] <dr_willis> Han_:  common bug and issue. no idwa. i dont yse sleep
[10:37] <Anduck> hi. soo, anyone been posting some hex codes in here?
[10:37] <tenX> libellulelly: but it definitely sounds like a path/server/filename error to me
[10:37] <dr_willis> Anduck:  huh?
[10:37] <Han_> well I broke down a friend's pc by doing this
[10:38] <Anduck> i heard someone pasted here a small string containing hex
[10:38] <Anduck> and i need it
[10:38] <libellulelly> tenX: its all ok, pxe is triggered by the client, and tftpclient try to pass via tftp protocol the image to my client. But the pxelinux.0 is not found... for a reason i don't know and can't see
[10:38] <oCean> Anduck: how is that Ubuntu related?
[10:38] <Case_> Nothing special, just normal conf
[10:38] <tenX> libellulelly: the client is trying to receive an image it cant download
[10:38] <Anduck> oCean: i don
[10:38] <dr_willis> !log | Anduck
[10:38] <mi3> how can I create a sprunge alias in my bashrc ? any suggestions ?
[10:38] <Anduck> oCean: i don't know.
[10:38] <Han_> we tried upgrade
[10:38] <Anduck> thanks :)
[10:38] <Anders-> Anyone able to help with Dovecot?
[10:38] <oCean> Anduck: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only
[10:38] <tenX> libellulelly: have you checked it manually?
[10:38] <quixotedon> !dovecot | Anduck
[10:39] <tenX> libellulelly: dl from tftp?
[10:39] <oCean> Anders-: just ask your question (detailed) in the channel. Although #ubuntu-server might be better suited for your query
[10:39] <Han_> is an upgrade the only way and keeping files?
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> Case_: do you use NetworkManager? if it's blank as in completely blank I have seen that when you do static via interfaces and don't set any resolver, if it's being overwritten by something and ending up blank - you should probably set the name servers in the utility your using to config network
[10:39] <tenX> libellulelly: within your config setup
[10:39] <libellulelly> tenX: good question, it's worth trying
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> in short it seems you don't have a nameserver configured statically
[10:39] <Anders-> oCean: Thanks. I will give them a try, if not... I might be back.
[10:39] <SolarisBoy> and/or you are running something overwriting it (network manager)
[10:40] <tenX> libellulelly: dont remember how that setup is to be configured
[10:40] <hipitihop> I have a new intel rig and I have tried live cd 12.04 & 10.04 and also 12.04 on usb flash stick, all three show initial purple screen and then black screen flashing cursor. Can someone help debug this with me
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> Case_: generally there will be a comment line (denoted by beginning with a #) saying which program or library wrote to the file last
[10:40] <tenX> libellulelly: do you specify the path/filename of the image server side?
[10:40] <dr_willis> Han_:  its possible a kernel update will eventually  fix the issue. check bug reports to see if its been reported
[10:40] <tenX> libellulelly: must be
[10:40] <Anduck> oCean: what is the ubuntu discussion channel?
[10:41] <tenX> libellulelly: anything else wouldnt make no sense
[10:41] <libellulelly> tenX: i followed these instrutions https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html to install dhcp server + tftp server and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot to know where to take the image
[10:41] <oCean> Anduck: there is #ubuntu-discuss (for ubuntu specific topics) and #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[10:41] <tenX> libellulelly: too drunk to read :D
[10:41] <Anduck> ok, thanks
[10:41] <libellulelly> tenX: yes i have to pass pxelinux.0
[10:41] <tenX> okay
[10:41] <tenX> libellulelly: you should check the syntax for that deployment
[10:42] <tenX> libellulelly: definitely sounds like the client is trying to pxe
[10:42] <Anders-> Well, I'm back.
[10:42] <tenX> libellulelly: but cant find the image
[10:42] <hipitihop> is there a way to see terminal trace or log of initial livecd boot that hangs ?
[10:43] <libellulelly> tenX: i try to tftp from windows pxelinux.0 and it does work :O
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: remove the boot options: quiet splash
[10:43] <Anders-> I'm getting an internal login failure. From the log file :: Internal login failure (auth failed, 1 attempts): user=<username>, method=PLAIN, rip=<IP_ADDRESS>, lip=<IP_ADDRESS>, secured
[10:43] <tenX> libellulelly: if it works on windoze something must be wrong ;)
[10:44] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, how do I do that on a live cd ?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | hipitihop
[10:45] <tenX> libellulelly: what is the pxe config option for the image?
[10:45] <tenX> libellulelly: and is it seperate from the server ip?
[10:46] <libellulelly> tenX: it's all in dhcpd.conf
[10:51] <andrewb80> please help! My sony vaio running 12.04 has been giving me problems. When I attempt to restart or shut down it just goes to the black screen with the linux commands to shut down and stays idle in a black screen but does not power down and will not turn back on unless I do a shut down by holding my power button. Please help I just upgraded to 12.04 from 11 and still same problem.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> andrewb80: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now     does it turn off ok?
[10:53] <dr_willis> andrewb80:  thats a somewhat common issue. you checked the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact model laptop?
[10:53] <Anduck> where can i find this channel log from past hour?
[10:53] <andrewb80> ActionParsnip: I have not tried the shut down from the shell. but will.
[10:54] <bazhang> !1984 | Anduck
[10:54] <Anduck> thx
[10:54] <dr_willis> dident we tell him that like 10 min ago?
[10:54] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:55] <Anduck> i think
[10:55] <Anduck> that log is delayed
[10:55] <Anduck> is there not-delayed one?
[10:55] <sonik> Hi everyone I am Sonik
[10:55] <dr_willis> Anduck:  not supriseong it has lag.
[10:56] <andrewb80> dr_willis: I did find a problem with my ram cover the contacts were not macking contact on the frame and that did fix and issue with my screen shutting down and not turning back on. also it would get stuck on the Vaio screen before loading ubuntu. since I fixed the contacts it seems to do that less. but sometimes gets stuck. and I know this sounds stupid but bending the screen a tiny bit close to the top gets it to load
[10:56] <Anduck> dr_willis: yeah but i am looking for nondelayed one. the one i got linked at got 2 hours delay which is too much for this case
[10:56] <Anders-> I don't want to be rude, but was anyone able to help with my Dovecot problem?
[10:57] <dr_willis> andrewb80: flakey hardware and soldered Connections it seems
[10:57] <Anders-> #ubuntu-server wasn't any help.
[10:57] <bazhang> Anduck, thats enough. there is no non-delayed one. it's not a n ubuntu issue
[10:57] <joeress> hello everyone
[10:57] <Anduck> bazhang: ok, thanks still :)
[10:58]  * dr_willis has no idea what dovecot is..
[10:58] <bazhang> Anders-, try #dovecot
[10:59] <joeress> does anyone know if it is possible to use Windows drivers for a keyboard with integrated touchpad? Something like Ndiswrapper only not for a network card.
[10:59] <Anders-> Thank you, bazhang.
[10:59] <newbie|3> why
[10:59] <newbie|3> picasa is not in the ubuntu repo
[10:59] <dr_willis> joeress:  what's  not working with it?
[10:59] <bazhang> newbie|3, the one made by google?
[11:00] <newbie|3> yup
[11:00] <dr_willis> newbie|3: google has their own repos for some things
[11:00] <joeress> dr_willis: 2 finger scroll
[11:00] <joeress> strangely 2 finger click works
[11:00] <andrewb80> dr_willis: I thought it sounded like a hardware issue. Since all this stuff happened I have three lines down my screen, I thought it was from my bending the monitor. I hook it up through component cable to my bravia 40 in. and the screen is clear. so I do have a screen connection fault or screen fault Im sure. but could that cause a shutdown and start up fault like I have. Like a problem with not receiving a message from the scr
[11:00] <andrewb80> een or something? sorry if this seems obvious but Im a newb and I just recently made the best decision of my life switching to Ubuntu
[11:00] <libellulelly> tenX: thank you very much for your help, you solved my problem! :)))
[11:00] <dr_willis> joeress:  so just 1 feature is not working?
[11:00] <newbie|3> yeah i know perviously ubuntu released i could install repo without adding any address to sources.list
[11:00] <joeress> yeah
[11:02] <dr_willis> joeress:  checked the forums and askubuntu.com yet? useing a windows driver is not likely to work
[11:02] <joeress> dr_willis: i have searched google a fair bit and seen that I am not alone with the problem but that there seems to be no solution
[11:04] <gitesh> how to clear terminal history ?
[11:04] <dr_willis> gitesh:  history --help
[11:05] <dr_willis> -c i think
[11:05] <gitesh> ok. Thanks
[11:05] <gitesh> checking,,,,,
[11:07] <babalu> hello, i'm trying to recover the data that was on my USB drive; i can mount it, i can see some files, but then other files just disappeared, and instead i can see folder like FOUND.001, with 10,000 FILExxxx.CHK files in them
[11:07] <gitesh> yeah. its' right
[11:07] <Mech0z> when ubuntu is loading and I just see the little thing "blink" in the top left corner and that never goes away, how is it I can see some text of what its accually doing?
[11:08] <gRAVIty_> Dynamic IP works sporadically on ubuntu 12.04. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015860. can you help?
[11:09] <gRAVIty_> nobody around?
[11:11] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, thanks that helped, using F6 boot options when I set acpi=off then I can continue with "Try Ubuntu without install" and all works. So do I need something special for installation ? or should I just go ahead and install with acpi=off
[11:13] <dr_willis> babalu:  lost files go there when recovered. thecn the files out.
[11:13]  * gitesh learning Bash scripting
[11:13] <dr_willis> babalu:  file command may help figure out what ones are what
[11:13] <babalu> dr_willis: "thecn"?
[11:14] <dr_willis> you got a lot of files to sort through ;)
[11:14] <dr_willis> check the contents of them with 'file' command. if you are looking for a specific type
[11:15] <babalu> dr_willis: but i didn't recover anything yet, they just appeared, they're all 16384 bytes; and i get FILE1453.CHK: data  when trying "file"
[11:15] <gRAVIty_> any ethernet experts?
[11:15] <bekks> gRAVIty_: Just ask, dont ask to ask.
[11:15] <dr_willis> babalu:  thats not a good sign. could be they were unrecoverable
[11:15] <gRAVIty_> bekks: Dynamic IP works sporadically on ubuntu 12.04. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2015860. can you help?
[11:16] <gRAVIty_> bekks: I asked previously. waiting for some one to look at it
[11:16] <a_meteor> Hey, does anyone happen to have a channel log and wouldn't mind grepping the last few lines for MysteryBanshee?
[11:16] <babalu> dr_willis: i didn't try any recovery tool yet
[11:16] <dr_willis> babalu:  the filesystem checker checked, and moved them allready
[11:17] <gRAVIty_> bekks: are you looking into it?
[11:17] <babalu> dr_willis: and this key was only ran on windows by a friend (not mine)
[11:17] <babalu> -key +drive
[11:17] <bekks> gRAVIty_: Did you try to manually receive an IP from your DHCP server?
[11:17] <dr_willis> babalu:  and those names are typical of windows file system checker's recovery names.
[11:17] <gRAVIty_> bekks:how do I manually try?
[11:18] <libellulelly> tenX: thanks again for your help... goodbye to all!!!
[11:18] <babalu> dr_willis: so if these files are "part" of files, i cannot recover them?
[11:18] <dr_willis> babalu:  windows say the stick having issues and tried to recover the data
[11:18] <bekks> gRAVIty_: dhclient eth0
[11:18] <gRAVIty_> bekks: thats it?
[11:18] <tenX> libellulelly: glad to help ya out
[11:18] <dr_willis> babalu:  #windows may have advice
[11:19] <babalu> dr_willis: thanks i'll check that
[11:19] <gRAVIty_> bekks: If there is anything else I can try I will also try that and get back to you now :)
[11:19] <bekks> gRAVIty_: Thats the first thing to try. If that fails, even periodically, your DHCP server is faulty.
[11:20] <gRAVIty_> bekks:If you want me to try that first I can do that. but if you can also give the follow up instructions incase it fails I will check that too
[11:23] <gRAVIty_> bekks: should I try that and get back?
[11:23] <Macready> Hi. Noob question.... I've just added a PPA which allowed me to install Gimp 2.8. Do I need to remove this PPA in case I accidentall add something that's incompatible with Ubuntu 12.04? And how do you view the current PPA list?
[11:23] <Macready> (accidentally)
[11:23] <cvr> anyone know when pidgin in precise will be updated? there are several security issues been fixed since the precise released package
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> cvr  take a look in launchpad
[11:24] <gRAVIty_> bekks: I am trying it now. cya
[11:25] <cvr> MonkeyDust: nothing noted for precise only quantal
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> cvr  you could report a bug
[11:27] <cvr> MonkeyDust: ok np, thx
[11:29] <dr_willis> !ppa
[11:30] <Macready> !ppa-purge
[11:30] <tking> pls someone tell me why my .mov file is not playing audio with totem? and with VLC its audio only
[11:30] <nyuszika7h> Macready: To list all repositories including PPAs, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <dr_willis> if its a gimp only ppa. i doubi it will affect much else
[11:31]  * nyuszika7h thinks that too
[11:31] <dr_willis> ppas are not in sources.llist.. but are in sources.list.d/
[11:31] <nyuszika7h> Oh, they are in sources.list.d? Sorry, I'm not an (active) Ubuntu user
[11:31] <dr_willis> normally you dont mess with sources.list much these days.
[11:32] <dr_willis> comment/uncomment a few lines is about it.
[11:32] <Macready> OK, thanks guys. I guess I'll just leave the added PPA as it is.
[11:33] <nyuszika7h> I use Debian, which doesn't have add-apt-repository, so I usually append repos to the end of sources.list
[11:33] <nyuszika7h> It's probably different in Ubuntu though
[11:33] <nyuszika7h> MetaBot... that wasn't a question
[11:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:33] <jwcarman> I'm looking for some suggestions to figure out what's going on with my VirtualBox ubuntu VM.  It's periodically "hanging."  The UI will freeze for about 20-30 seconds and then start working again.  It does this very frequently.  Anyone ever seen this?  How do I figure out what's wrong?
[11:34] <ikonia> jwcarman: that sort of thing is normally lack of resources/bottleneck
[11:34] <tking> anyone know why my .mov file is not playing audio? the video shows but no sound
[11:34] <bekks> jwcarman: Did you install the guest additions?
[11:34] <ikonia> tking: missing codecs
[11:34] <jwcarman> ikonia: so, what should I look for?
[11:34] <jwcarman> I have the guest additions installed
[11:34] <jwcarman> I have dkms installed
[11:34] <bekks> jwcarman: Which vbox version?
[11:34] <ikonia> jwcarman: look at your resources,
[11:34] <tking> ikonia, how do i get the codecs?
[11:35] <ikonia> tking: look what codecs the video/audio was encoded with, then search what package contains thouse codecs and install
[11:35] <jwcarman> bekks: it should be the latest.  I re-imaged my entire machine on Friday night and set this thing up since then
[11:36] <jwcarman> Yeah, check for updates tells me I'm running the latest version
[11:36] <jwcarman> ikonia: how do you look at your resources?
[11:36] <bekks> jwcarman: "should be" isnt sufficient. Which version is ot?
[11:36] <ikonia> jwcarman: use resource monitors on both the host and the guest and look for any corrolations
[11:37] <jwcarman> ikonia: okay, sounds easy, but what if the resource monitor UI hangs up, too?
[11:37] <ikonia> jwcarman: it shouldn't on the host - if it does on the host, you know your host is having a proble, not hte guest
[11:38] <ceradon> Hello.
[11:38] <jwcarman> bekks: 4.1.18r78361
[11:38] <tking> ikonia i check properties by right clicking and i saw Type: QuickTime video (video/quicktime) is that the codec?
[11:38] <ikonia> !quicktime | tking
[11:39] <bekks> jwcarman: How much RAM does you host have, which CPU exactly, and whats the output of VBoxManage showvminfo YourVMName? Put that output in a pastebin please.
[11:39] <moljac024> i can't install software from the software center - there is some policykit error thrown in the console
[11:39] <jwcarman> ikonia: I think the host is good.  I don't notice any freeze-ups there, which is weird because it's windoze.  Although, the whole reason I switched back to Windoze host from Ubuntu was because my machine became unstable and wouldn't launch Unity for some reason (booted straight to text login)
[11:39] <ikonia> jwcarman: the operating system is called "windows" not "windoze"
[11:39] <bekks> jwcarman: "rhe host is good" does not tell anything about lacking resources.
[11:40] <jwcarman> bekks: 16GB, Sandy bridge 2600k, figuring out how to run VBoxManage
[11:40] <jwcarman> ikonia: yes, I know
[11:41] <bekks> jwcarman: By opening a cmd window, changing to the directory vbox is installed in, and typing that command.
[11:41] <jwcarman> ikona: I call it that to be funny
[11:41] <bekks> jwcarman: And "sandy bridge 2600k" is not a known processor specification.
[11:41] <ikonia> jwcarman: it's not funny it's rude and childish and makes me not want to help you any more
[11:41] <jwcarman> ikonia: boy you guys sure must have a lot of friends
[11:41] <metbsd> Windows always kicks
[11:42] <bekks> jwcarman: We do. Please answer my questions.
[11:42] <bazhang> !behelpful | jwcarman
[11:42] <jwcarman> bekks: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
[11:43] <ceradon> I upgraded to Ubuntu Linux about a week ago. And It was going well.  How can I resolve this issue? I thought I might tell you also that during the setup, the program said it would have to delete two or three partitions (The exact number I can't tell...
[11:43] <ceradon> ...as I can't remember). Also, if it's relevant, I upgraded from Windows 7 to Ubuntu Linux 12.0.4. Can anyone help me resolve this issue?
[11:43] <metbsd> you know what's funny and childish? that always believe in that linux can replace windows is..
[11:44] <bazhang> !ot | metbsd
[11:44] <help2222> hello
[11:45] <help2222> when i download files from the internet on my ubuntu to a network storage device.. something keeps taking my main ubuntu harddisk space
[11:45] <help2222> do you know where it is ?
[11:45] <bekks> ceradon: There is no upgrade path from Windows to Linux at all. And whats the problem at that point - do I get you right that your computer doesnt boot without your flash drive anymore?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> help2222: i suggest you remove old kernels to free space
[11:45] <ikonia> help2222: what are you downloading ?
[11:46] <ceradon> bekks: Yes.
[11:46] <help2222> ikonia large single files
[11:46] <ikonia> help2222: what sort of content ?
[11:46] <help2222> sometimes from 50 ~ 1GB in size
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> metbsd: it can in some cases
[11:46] <ceradon> bekks: I used the ISO images on the Ubunto website.
[11:46] <bekks> ceradon: Then you apparently installed ubuntu or the bootloader to the flash drive instead your harddrive.
[11:46] <help2222> also sometimes i view videos online on my browser it also seem to take space even when i disable temp files cache
[11:46] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: don't feed him please.
[11:46] <jwcarman> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081044/
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sure
[11:47] <ikonia> help2222: where is it taking space?
[11:47] <help2222> ActionParsnip:  do you know how to find out where is the extra space is taken from ?
[11:47] <help2222> that's what i want to know
[11:47] <help2222> what's keep filling my harddisk without my permission
[11:47] <ikonia> help2222: where is it taking space?
[11:47] <help2222> i use LAN storage
[11:47] <bekks> jwcarman: Whats your windows drive Z:? Some network share you mounted?
[11:47] <help2222> for all my files
[11:48] <ikonia> help2222: stop repeating and look at what people are asking you and respond
[11:48] <ceradon> bekks: In the setup, I chose the "Install on hard drive" option. Was it an error on the Ubuntu Installers part or mine?
[11:48] <jwcarman> bekks: it's a striped volume across two disks
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> help2222: you can use disk usage analyser to see what is using most, if you are low on space I'd remove old kernels as a start, you can also use bleachbit (carefully) to clear more space
[11:48] <help2222> nothing is stored on my ubuntu harddisk . only programs
[11:48] <ikonia> help2222: stop repeating and look at what people are asking you and respond
[11:48] <jwcarman> bekks: local
[11:48] <help2222> instaled proglrams
[11:48] <bekks> ceradon: You were asked where to install the bootloader at the end of the installation.
[11:48] <ikonia> help2222: where is it taking space?
[11:48] <help2222> action i removed older kernel and i use bleachbit
[11:48] <help2222> no difference
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> help2222: can you use http://pastie.org   to give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; echo; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:49] <ikonia> it's not his kernel taking up space
[11:49] <ikonia> the issue is he's downloading to external storage and it's taking up space on local storage
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> help2222: also add:  df -h; sudo fdisk -l; mount
[11:49] <ikonia> cleaning the kernel won't change that
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: added some other good stuff :)
[11:49] <ikonia> it's pointless cleaning up, until you know what's taking his space and where
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: fine, but the extra commands will help
[11:50] <help2222> ikonia yeah i know. on windows there are specific places where you store files
[11:50] <help2222> on unbuntu i don't know any
[11:50] <ikonia> I'm out, carry on into pointless obvilion
[11:50] <help2222> where you store user files or docuements or temp files or browser files. on windows you know where they are
[11:50] <help2222> tell me where on ubuntu
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> help2222: can you run the commands I gave please and give the output. Thanks
[11:51] <help2222> maybe ubuntu keep caching my downloaded files then it transfer part of it slowly thru the LAN?
[11:51] <help2222> ActionParsnip:  it only happens when i download
[11:51] <jwcarman> bekks: do you need any more information about the striped volume?
[11:51] <help2222> no problem with older kernel images. i removed them all
[11:51] <bekks> help2222: No it doesnt. And it is pointless to guess whats happening with you providing the information requested.
[11:52] <ceradon> bekks: So, what is the ideal solution in this case?
[11:52] <pv2b> I've got a Lenovo Thinkpad X121e running Lubuntu 12.04 that I'm having some trouble with sound on. According to "aplay -l", card 0 is the HDMI audio output, and the actual analog output (that I actually want to use) is on card 1. Now, unfortunately, according to cat /proc/asound/modules - both card 0 and card 1 are using the snd_hda_intel driver, so the normal advice you get on the web to use /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to statically assign
[11:52] <pv2b> indices to cards based on their drivers won't work. So, how can I get my analog sound card to be card 0? Or - more generally - is there anyway to renumber the sound cards *after* the drivers have been loaded? (Would be handy when switching to a USB headset for example.)
[11:52] <bekks> jwcarman: I was just wondering why the disk image resides on "Z:"
[11:52] <help2222> bekks i told you. i store all my files thru local area network storage and when i download files on my limited space ubuntu PC something keeps consumption my ubuntu harddisk space even when i store all the files on a LAN harddisk
[11:53] <bekks> jwcarman: Which ubuntu version exactly are you using in your vm?
[11:53] <ceradon> Do I have to go through the installation again or install a different Linux bistro entirely?
[11:53] <jwcarman> bekks: Linux ubuntu-vm 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 17:49:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:53] <bekks> help2222: Please provide the information requested. Thank you.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:53] <help2222> which informations? auto update is disabled
[11:53] <bekks> ceradon: I guess you have to reinstall, with your flash storage plugged in.
[11:53] <help2222> last update was at the beginning of 2011
[11:53] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: just a moment
[11:53] <ikonia> no-one said anything about updates
[11:53] <help2222> so no kernel updates
[11:53] <help2222> no older kernels.. i removed them all
[11:53] <ikonia> help2222: stop
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> help2222: is the storage mounted?
[11:53] <ikonia> help2222: stop talking
[11:54] <ikonia> help2222: if you cannot listen to the instructions been given to you - you will get nowhere
[11:54] <jwcarman> bekks: that's from uname -a.  Did you need something different?
[11:54] <bekks> ceradon: WITHOUT your flash storage plugged in of course.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> help2222: run:  lsb_releasee -a; uname -a; df -h; mount; sudo fdisk -l      use http://pastie.org to host the text
[11:54] <help2222> what instruction? a guy told me to paste the kernels i have on my harddisk but ntohing els. i deleted older kernels and i use bleachbit and nothing change.
[11:54] <xiq> hi there, i'm running 12.04 and when I run xdg-open on a file, it always opens up a file manager with the file highlighted, instead of opening the appropriate application. if i then click it in the file manager, it opens the right application. any ideas? i have two 12.04 systems (one unity, one gnome-shell) that both exhibit this behaviour.
[11:55] <ikonia> help2222: no-one told you paste your kernels and that's it
[11:55] <bekks> jwcarman: You may want to search the virtualbox forums on that issue.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> help2222: I asked for the same output earlier. Still waiting...
[11:55] <jwcarman> I've been googling.  Do you see something there?
[11:55] <bekks> jwcarman: forums.virtualbox.org
[11:56] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: do you want me to automatically upload the alsa information to www.alsa-project.org? is that useful? or should I just pastebin the output in that /tmp file?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: upload and a URL will be generated for you
[11:57] <pv2b> allrighty. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5c9de0241231cae85a8cac2e8e720540564869c7
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: thanks
[11:57] <ceradon> bekks: If that's the case then a Netboot is what I'd have to do, right?
[11:58] <pv2b> waaaait --- you can supply *multiple* parameters to the index option?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: if you run:  alsamixer   and press F^, can you select the other sound device?
[11:58] <jwcarman> bekks: are you sending me there because you know of a known issue that's there?
[11:58] <bekks> ceradon: So the flash drive is you installation source?
[11:58] <ceradon> bekks: Yes.
[11:58] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: i guess you mean F6? if so, yes
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: and in teh GUI app for sound, is the correct output device set?
[11:59] <bekks> jwcarman: No. I am sending you there because those guys there develop vbox and they know how to solve vbox related problems :)
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:59] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: what GUI app for sound?
[11:59] <jwcarman> bekks: Ok, fair enough.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: in dash
[11:59] <bekks> ceradon: Then you cant remove it, but you have to take care where to install the booit loader at the end of the installation process.
[12:00] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: dash? this is a lubuntu system by the way so it runs lxde
[12:00] <jwcarman> bekks: you think it could have something to do with the VM being on a striped volume?
[12:01] <ceradon> bekks: One more thing, How do I login as root on a 12.0.4 Ubuntu system?
[12:01] <bekks> jwcarman: I suspect it's the windows volume management software thats causing I/O problems.
[12:02] <engammalsko1> .
[12:02] <bekks> ceradon: There is no root login on Ubuntu. You always log in as a user and then use sudo.
[12:02] <jwcarman> bekks: I can switch it to a "normal" disk quite easily.  I'm not married to the striped volume.
[12:02] <bekks> jwcarman: You could try that.
[12:02] <jwcarman> bekks: perhaps I'll just try that.  I have run ubuntu in a VM for quite some time on many machines without this type of issue.
[12:03] <engammalsko1> How do I install jre7? The instructions on javas homepage seems wrong. They're telling me to chmod a .bin file but the file I download is a .tar.gz file.
[12:03] <xiq> oh, i removed my ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and it seems to be fixed. weird.
[12:03] <jwcarman> engammalsko1: just unzip it
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: ahh, then the sound manager in the menus. I forget it's name
[12:03] <engammalsko1> There's no .bin file there just a bin folder.
[12:03] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: I was able to figure it out - what I learnt from reading the output of the file you sent me - that since the index parameters takes t
[12:03] <jwcarman> engammalsko1: you're done, then! :)
[12:04] <pv2b> takes multiple options, i was able to add this:
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: nice :). That script is badass
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> engammalsko1  did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7
[12:04] <pv2b> options snd-hda-intel index=1,0
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> engammalsko1: there is a ppa too
[12:04] <pv2b> to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: ahhhhh
[12:04] <pv2b> index=1,-2 might be better though, i dunno.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: worth a try, its easily changed
[12:05] <pv2b> but that still leaves me with the general query - is there any way to change card 0 at run-time? i'd rather not have to vi /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot every time i want to switch to my USB headphones :P or the same people I mocked back in windows 95 for having to reboot to change their IP address will get the better of me.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: I believe if you use:  alsa --reload  it will rerad the file
[12:06] <pv2b> really? even though it's a modprobe line? hmm. i'll try it.
[12:07] <help2222> how to remove Simple Backup Suite ?
[12:07] <ikonia> open the package manager, find it and remove it
[12:08] <help2222> from ubuntu and also to delete the files on var/backups ?
[12:08] <pv2b> nope, that doesn't do it. I just tried commenting out my line in alsa-base.conf and do an alsa reload (not alsa --reload) and the sound card indices remain the same. they remain the same even if i try explicitly saying index=0,1
[12:09] <samster34> lol...help! my ubuntu livecd is asking for a login and password...now I gather the login name is ubuntu, but what is the password?
[12:09] <pv2b> samster34: ubuntu I believe is the password as well
[12:09] <samster34> nope
[12:09] <samster34> that's not it
[12:10] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: oh wait. actually reading the output of alsa reload says "failed: modules still loaded - and a bunch of modules
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> samster34: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:  passwd ubuntu   then press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in as ubuntu with the password you set
[12:10] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: is there anything like lsof so i can tell what process in userland is actually holding the modules loaded so I can reload them?
[12:10] <samster34> ActionParsnip: ok, will try. thanks
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: you could unload then reload the sound module :)
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: you may need to kill pulseaudio, you can make a little script
[12:11] <pv2b> again, that fails - i guess because the devices are open still
[12:11] <pv2b> this system doesn't run pulseaudio, i think lubuntu doesn't ship with that enabled or something
[12:11] <engammalsko1> ActionParsnip: How do I get the ppa if I'm running linuxmint?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: i think you are right
[12:12] <ikonia> engammalsko1: ask the guys in linux mint support resources
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> engammalsko1: mint isn't supported hete
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> *here
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> engammalsko1  wrong channel
[12:12] <pv2b> or more specifically, ps axuw|grep pulse turns up nothing
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !mint | engammalsko1
[12:12] <bazhang> engammalsko1, get mintsupport then, its not supported here
[12:12] <moljac024> why doesn't the software center display any screenshots?
[12:12] <moljac024> i don't think i ever saw a single screenshot in this program since it was released
[12:12] <moljac024> what gives?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> moljac024: are you fully updated?
[12:13] <moljac024> EVERY application says "no screenshot available"
[12:13] <moljac024> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:13] <BluesKaj> pv2b, asla force reload doesn't always work , but a reboot does after making changes to alsa config
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: we're trying to avoid reboot
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: does unloading then reloading the sound module work ok?
[12:14] <pv2b> you mean manually using rmmod and stuff?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, unfortunate side effect of editing asla base conf
[12:14] <Saiki> how do I serach ubuntu for .so packages?
[12:14] <help2222> what happens if i uninstall software center ?
[12:14] <ikonia> you won't have software center
[12:15] <help2222> i install all my programs thru terminal
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: sudo updatedb; locate *.so
[12:15] <help2222> ok
[12:15] <LjL> Saiki: .so aren't packages, they're libraries. but you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find files contained in packages
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: won't removing the reloading the module mean the config is re-read?
[12:15] <pv2b> BluesKaj: okay, let's take a step back. i want to be able to change what sound card is card0 in alsa - to achieve the goal of changing the default sound card for applications without having to reboot the machine. my mac does this. win7 does this. i would expect it to be possible somehow in linux as well. or is there another approach I could use to acheive the same result?
[12:16] <moljac024> is there a package that needs to be installed for software center to be able to display screenshots? a package that's not a dependency maybe?
[12:17] <moljac024> maybe some part of gnome? i'm not using gnome at all
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: try the module remove/reload
[12:17] <ikonia> moljac024: I don't think every package has a screen shot
[12:17] <moljac024> ikonia: i know, but i can't see screenshots even for those that have them
[12:17] <BluesKaj> pv2b, perhaps a logout-login ? frankly I've never tried thattho
[12:18] <pv2b> logout-login is practically just as bad as having to reboot the machine :(
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: sudo modprobe -r snd_hda_intel; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[12:19] <Saiki> LjL: I was refering to the packages containing them
[12:21] <pv2b> actionparsnip: that does seem to work. but i rebooted since i tried the alsa reload.
[12:21] <pv2b> and now alsa reload is working
[12:21] <pv2b> i must have had an application up that was holding the sound card open
[12:22] <ceradon> bekks, Just curious: What if I were to delete all the files on the jump drive then re-install the ISO image onto it then boot the computer. Would that restart the installation?
[12:22] <bekks> ceradon: No.
[12:22] <bekks> ceradon: You already have a bootable flash drive. Just boot it.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, isn't the module snd-hda-intel  ? or underscores acceptable as well ?
[12:23] <ceradon> bekks: But then how would I get it to reinstall onto my hard drive?
[12:23] <k1ngf1sh> heloo
[12:23] <bekks> ceradon: By starting the installation again.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> pv2b, try sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[12:24] <bekks> ceradon: You did it once, you have to do it again.
[12:24] <pv2b> BluesKaj: it works either with underscores of hyphens
[12:24] <Kagee> Can i somehow find out what program is asking for access to my keyring?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> pv2b, ok thanks , wasn't aware of that :)
[12:25] <pv2b> even snd-hda_intel seems to work :P
[12:25] <BluesKaj> heh
[12:25] <pv2b> if you are so inclined
[12:25] <baker> ubuntu
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: I just ran lsmod, it's what came up
[12:26] <samster34> whelp...I'm still having major problems getting ubuntu to work with my GTX 670. Even with the 302.something drivers, al I get is a bright red screen
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: now you can make a script and shove it on the desktop :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> samster34: tried: sudo nvidia-xconfig    then  rebooting
[12:27] <samster34> ActionParsnip: I did, no effect
[12:27] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, ok .good to learn something _new_to_me, everyday :)
[12:27] <samster34> ActionParsnip: I have the generated xorg.conf somewhere, hold on
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> samster34: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 can you log in at CLI?
[12:27] <samster34> ActionParsnip: no!
[12:27] <samster34> red screen
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> samster34: reboot to recovery root mode and you should be able to read /var/log/Xorg.0.log using less
[12:28] <samster34> I can't boot it in recovery mode -> failsafe mode either
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> samster34: do you use dual video chips (intel + nvidia)
[12:28] <samster34> ActionParsnip: the error is: screens found, but none have a usable configuration
[12:28] <samster34> ActionParsnip: No, I removed the 2nd nvidia card to avoid trouble
[12:28] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: I have no idea how, but right now, with ym current configuration (i also commented out the stuff that prevented the usb sound card from grabbing index 0), every time i do an alsa reload, the default soudn card changes between the usb sound card and the buitl int soudn card
[12:30] <samster34> ActionParsnip: from the look of the xorg.conf, it wasn't able to detect any supported modes for any of my screens
[12:30] <samster34> I tried manually adding 2560x1440 to the resolutions, but that didn't help
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> samster34: do you have resolution and refresh rates defined in xorg.conf?
[12:30] <samster34> ActionParsnip: no!
[12:30] <samster34> nothing
[12:30] <samster34> nada
[12:30] <samster34> all it says is that I have a screen
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> samster34: want to try my xorg.conf?
[12:30] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: well i'm not exactly satisfied with this solution - ideally there could just be a "virtual card0" that would just pass the audio though to your desired sound card. but... i have lunch now. so it'll have to wait.
[12:31] <samster34> ActionParsnip: sure, but..will that work with my screen?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> samster34: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081089/   should be ok
[12:31] <BluesKaj> pv2b, try this command ,dunno i it still works , if you use gstreamer backend , sudo gstreamer-properties , it should show a USB optional setting
[12:31] <pv2b> BluesKaj: i don't think i use gstreamer. but i'll investigate what it is when i've had my food :) thanks
[12:32] <samster34> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll edit that mode to something I know my screen supports
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> samster34: backup the file you have now, then make changes :)
[12:32] <samster34> ActionParsnip: I have no file now, and I can always call nvidia-xconfig again to get the nearly empty one :/
[12:33] <samster34> brb, have to reboot
[12:41] <samster34> hey, anyone know the command to update the pci device IDs? my GTX 670 is not being recognized as such when I do lspci
[12:42] <BluesKaj> samster34, have you chosen the pci graphics as your default in the bios?
[12:42] <samster34> BluesKaj, yes, that's not the issue, there is no other graphics either
[12:42] <BluesKaj> or is thhat an onboard
[12:42] <bekks> samster34: There is no command to do so. If it isnt listed, the hardware isnt recognizred by your computer.
[12:43] <samster34> bekks, yes there is, someone told me what it was yesterday :p
[12:43] <samster34> I just don#t remember :/
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> samster34: do you use an Intel i7 cpu?
[12:43] <samster34> ActionParsnip, yes, but my mainboard doesn't use the integrated GPU
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> samster34: ok, you can see why I ask :)
[12:44] <samster34> my graphics card is listed as "NVIDIA Corporation Device 1189 (rev a1)"
[12:45] <hanning> hi, i am looking for an up-to-date guide to get accelerated flash working on an intel gma 4500 on ubuntu 12.04. any help would be nice :/
[12:45] <samster34> ah, found it. 'update-pciids'
[12:45] <BluesKaj> samster34, . sudo lshw -C video
[12:46] <samster34> BluesKaj, ok?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> samster34, look beside product in the list
[12:47] <samster34> BluesKaj, GK104 [GeForce GTX 670], as expected
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> samster34: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[12:48] <BluesKaj> then your card is recognized , you probly need a better driver
[12:48] <BluesKaj> samster34,^
[12:48] <samster34> ActionParsnip, : precise
[12:48] <tenX> BluesKaj: need a better driver too
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> samster34: could try the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[12:49] <samster34> ActionParsnip, already am, I have driver 302.something
[12:49] <samster34> that is, on the installed system which I can't get into because red screen of death. I'm on a live system right now
[12:49] <BluesKaj> samster34, what's the recommended driver for your card in additional drivers ?
[12:50] <samster34> where?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> oh
[12:51] <samster34> the nvidia site directs me to the 295.59 drivers, but I had no luck with them either
[12:52] <samster34> anyway, I've added a display mode that the screen supports, I'll try booting the install again.
[12:52] <samster34> be back in a bit..
[12:59] <Doxin> nautilus keeps crashing when I open my downloads folder. it gives this message: "nautilus: jp2_dec.c:299: jp2_decode: Assertion `dec->image->cmprof_' failed."
[13:01] <klopman> Hi. Did someone ever use gddccontrol to configure brightness and contrast on a laptop ?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Doxin: does it happen as a fresh ubuntu user?
[13:05] <gitesh> how do i write 3 sentences into terminal in one time?
[13:05] <gitesh> "prompt$ pwd
[13:05] <gitesh> /where/i/saved/it
[13:05] <gitesh> prompt$ ./hello_world.sh"
[13:05] <FloodBot1> gitesh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <samster34> well, the splashscreen was looking fancy, and running at proper resolution, but then it flashed and went to a bright red screen again...
[13:06] <pseudonymous> Is there any way to 100% completely avoid the unity login screen ? When I click shut down, I get into the log in screen.. I want to close my computer :(
[13:06] <[flux]> gitesh: Use a shell script.
[13:08] <klopman> Did someone ever use gddccontrol to configure brightness and contrast on a laptop ? Actually it seems to work only with monitors and not laptops..
[13:08] <samster34> ActionParsnip: I'm going to try a clean install, do the update-pciids first, then install the nvidia driver, and maybe then nvidia-xconfig will be able to properly configure the screens?
[13:09] <gitesh> [flux]: nice:) i got it. Thanks
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> samster34: possibly
[13:11] <Kagee> gitesh: you can separate commands with a semicolon (;)
[13:13] <dArKd3ViL> Hello everyone! I need assistance in opening a run dialog box on xclient script session
[13:13] <tking> !quicktime
[13:14] <gitesh> Kagee: ok
[13:17] <ari-santihiyu> Hiwa!
[13:17] <Gosset_Inofensiu> hi
[13:17] <Gosset_Inofensiu> Will DNS Changer trojan affect Linux systems?
[13:18] <llutz> Gosset_Inofensiu: no
[13:18] <abimael> y not?
[13:18] <ssta> Gosset_Inofensiu: not unless you're using a windows system as a dns proxy via ICS or similar....in general, no
[13:18] <abimael> ssta: oh ok
[13:19] <gitesh> i could not do this :/
[13:19] <Milesy> Hi folks. Is there an ubuntu channel that would be suitable for a crystalbuntu question?
[13:19] <Gosset_Inofensiu> hmm
[13:19] <Gosset_Inofensiu> thanks llutz
[13:20] <tking> hi guys, i have installed medibuntu, w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and vlc still can not play .mov videos pls any help or idea?
[13:21] <gitesh> :) it was so easy. Thanks.
[13:22] <Gosset_Inofensiu> any link that probe that ssta and llutz ?
[13:22] <Gosset_Inofensiu> all the media outlines that linux systems may be affected
[13:22] <Gosset_Inofensiu> this will cause windows users laughing out loud
[13:22] <ssta> Gosset_Inofensiu: what media say that?
[13:23] <Gosset_Inofensiu> at least in europe
[13:23] <Gosset_Inofensiu> FBI
[13:23] <ssta> http://malden.patch.com/articles/computers-infected-by-dns-changer-trojan-malware-will-lose-internet-access-monday
[13:23] <Gosset_Inofensiu> pc world
[13:23] <silverarrow> I have a stuck cd in the laptop, I am in lubuntu
[13:23] <ssta> first paragraph
[13:23] <llutz> Gosset_Inofensiu: read the the trojan does, how it does it and how that would be done on linux systems
[13:23] <silverarrow> is there a clever way to get it out?
[13:23] <llutz> read what*
[13:24] <ari-santihiyu> Do you know how to open wine or programs installed into it? I don't find it! And what's the path? help theenk yuu :)
[13:24] <utu-san> silverarrow: get a paper clip and poke the little hole
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> malware in linux? sounds exciting!
[13:24] <ssta> Gosset_Inofensiu: you have a link to the pcworld article?
[13:24] <ikonia> or nonsense
[13:24] <Gosset_Inofensiu> thanks a lot
[13:24] <ssta> MonkeyDust: hardly unique...but rare :)
[13:24] <ari-santihiyu> 'lo ikonia
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Gosset_Inofensiu: you'll be fine :)
[13:24] <silverarrow> utu-san: the cd rom is working, but newly installed lubuntu on an old ibook
[13:24] <llutz> MonkeyDust: wouldn't be the first time
[13:25] <llutz> MonkeyDust: and yes, "linux is secure" is a myth
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> llutz  i know that, it is 'more secure', is what i say
[13:25] <ari-santihiyu> Do you know how to open wine or programs installed into it? I don't find it! And what's the path? help theenk yuu :) :)))))
[13:26] <ikonia> !wine | ari-santihiyu
[13:26] <ari-santihiyu> ok theenk yuu
[13:27] <samster34> ActionParsnip, hey, so I did a clean install and the driver works, and it seems only my first screen can't be configured, the other two are now working fine
[13:27] <Gosset_Inofensiu> thanks guys
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> samster34: ahh, did you upgrade from Oneiric before?
[13:28] <samster34> ActionParsnip, no, that was a clean install as well
[13:28] <samster34> the difference might have been, I didn't reboot but restart lightdm instead right after installing the driver
[13:29] <samster34> and I did the update-pciids before any of that
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> samster34: weird stuff :)
[13:29] <samster34> ActionParsnip: so, how do I go about making my first screen work?
[13:29] <samster34> aw.
[13:30] <silverarrow> is anyone good with terminal? like unmount CD and eject?
[13:31] <samster34> I have 3 screens connected, and for 2 of them the correct display modes are automatically detected, but for some reason not for the fist screen. it's a dual link 2560x1440 screen, don't know if that makes a difference or not
[13:31] <silverarrow> this kind of touble is what there are actions parsnips for
[13:32] <silverarrow> or maybe redbeets
[13:32] <samster34> ActionParsnip just left :/
[13:33] <bekks> silverarrow: "sudo umount /path/to/your/mountpoint"; sudo eject /dev/cdrom"
[13:33] <silverarrow> worked
[13:33] <silverarrow> thanks
[13:34] <samster34> anyone have an idea how to configure screens manually, when the driver can't extract the information itself?
[13:34] <silverarrow> it was the unmouting that I cound't figure out how to do
[13:36] <excalibr> where are per user's startup application saved?
[13:36] <dr_willis> !fixres
[13:36] <silverarrow> is anyone clever with powerpc? ibook
[13:37] <silverarrow> I have troble booting after install
[13:37] <bekks> silverarrow: Why dont you just ask what you want to know?
[13:37] <silverarrow> some kind of bug
[13:37] <dr_willis> excalibr:  .local/autorun or. config/autorun i think
[13:37] <dr_willis> or was it autostart
[13:38] <excalibr> yea found it. ty
[13:38] <silverarrow> I am looking for a way to make the boot up command "Linux b43.blacklist=yes " stick automatically
[13:39] <silverarrow> when I boot I have to write "Linux b43.blacklist=yes " for it to boot properly,
[13:39] <BluesKaj> samster34, intall nvidia-settings and nvidia-settings-updates . you'll have more options with the settings GUI
[13:39] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  edit the bootloader cinfigs. i dont know what ppc uses to boot. if its grub2 then its /etc/default/grub
[13:40] <samster34> BluesKaj: thanks
[13:40] <excalibr> dr_willis: can we manually run those autostart files?
[13:40] <dr_willis> !blacklist | silverarrow
[13:41] <dr_willis> excalibr:  yes. they can be links. or scripts. or. desktop launchers
[13:41] <silverarrow> hmm
[13:42] <samster34> BluesKaj, how do I apply changes with nvidia-settings?
[13:43] <aguitel> samster34: type:sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:43] <damir_> hi
[13:43] <samster34> aguitel: and then what, reboot?!
[13:44] <damir_> lol
[13:44] <aguitel> samster34: yes
[13:44] <samster34> aguitel: can I just restart lightdm again?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> samster34, check for the nvidia gui in apps  , my recall of the unity and gnome apps menu isn't very good ..kde here
[13:44] <aguitel> samster34: restart system
[13:44] <samster34> BluesKaj: I have the GUI open, it's just...you can only save the config, not apply it now..
[13:45] <silverarrow> dr_willis: not sure about grub either, I'm new to ppc and linux combo
[13:45] <ssta> samster34: you generally have to restart the X server to apply config changes
[13:45] <samster34> BluesKaj: ok, well the GUI doesn't show any info about the first screen either, and the acquire EDID button is greyed out..
[13:46] <samster34> so how do I go about configuring it?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> samster34, have you run sudo nvidia-xconfig ..best that it's run at a TTY , with gdm or lightdm stopped
[13:46] <samster34> BluesKaj: I already did that many times
[13:46] <BluesKaj> on this install ?
[13:46] <samster34> it doesn't detect any modes
[13:46] <dr_willis> silverarrow: i dumped my only ppc bix. linux on it was a pain
[13:46] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:46] <silverarrow> I see
[13:47] <silverarrow> but leopard is a bit old by now
[13:47] <damir_> any girls ? :)
[13:48] <BluesKaj> damir_, do you have an ubuntu question ,?>
[13:48] <ssta> damir_: 1500+ people in here...I'd be stunned if they were all male.  What does that have to do with ubuntu?
[13:48] <damir_> i am new lunix user...
[13:48] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  i just used it as a ssh terminal.
[13:48] <headlesstom> after a failed boot there is no countdown in grub. how do I change that? I want to boot the default entry without any interaction with grub, always.
[13:49] <damir_> i haw many questions to ask
[13:49] <BlouBlou> damir_: why don't you ask them then?
[13:50] <damir_> haw can i install software on pinguy os ?
[13:50] <BlouBlou> damir_: we only support ubuntu in here
[13:50] <damir_> i quit w7
[13:50] <damir_> ok thanks
[13:51] <ssta> damir_: pinguy is an unsupported derivative.  You need to go to their support places
[13:51] <gitesh> well, i wanna to quit w7 as well.
[13:51] <gitesh> :)
[13:51] <damir_> quit lol xD
[13:51] <ssta> damir_: try "/join #pinguyos"
[13:51] <damir_> ok thank you man
[13:52] <gitesh> i have install ubuntu alongside with ubuntu. So, can i take all document from w7 to ubuntu and format w7?
[13:54] <zzz11> partion w7 also file on ubuntu.
[13:56] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:56] <uruk> hello world
[13:56] <cristian_c> How can I activate gestures with Ginn?
[13:57] <cristian_c> there is this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn
[13:57] <cristian_c> but I don't understand how to use it
[13:57] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:59] <ari-santihiyu> excuse ikonia me what's the difference between wine and qemu?
[13:59] <ssta> wine is an API replacement layer...qemu is a processor emulation layer
[13:59] <IsUp> hello
[13:59] <compdoc> ari-santihiyu, qemu is a virtual machine. wine emulates windows
[14:00] <samster34> BluesKaj: I gave it another try anyway, and the nvidia-xconfig generated config leaves my two working screens with a bright gray, and the first one still doesn't work.
[14:01] <ari-santihiyu> theenk yuu, so if I want to use a windows program inside ubuntu, what's the better compdoc?
[14:01] <IsUp> i am running 12.04 on Hyper-V, i have 1 nic and i am able to reach to my server from outside. i need to add 2nd public IP but it's using another gateway. so basicly i want to add eth0:0 but its not working
[14:01] <ari-santihiyu> qemu is better but requires more  CPU?
[14:02] <bekks> IsUp: Of course thats not working, because a second nic will be eth1 and not eth0:0
[14:02] <IsUp> bekks: i want to use one nic. is that possible?
[14:02] <bekks> IsUp: No.
[14:02] <ssta> IsUp: it's certainly possible...I've done it
[14:03] <IsUp> ssta: i've heard "bridging" interface or something but i am kinda noob on networking
[14:03] <IsUp> here is my current configuration: http://pastebin.ca/2168763
[14:03] <bekks> ssta: Two virtual IP on the same physical NIC residing in different subnets? Show us a working example please.
[14:03] <ssta> IsUp: bridging is something else.  What exactly do you want to do?
[14:03] <ssta> bekks: it's a common configuration.
[14:03] <compdoc> ari-santihiyu, qemu is great for running a server that doesnt need fast screen display, like for games. ANd for running the wndows VM automatically each time you boot Ubuntu. Depends what you want to do, but if you want fast video, even for programs like Adobe Illustrator, use Virtualbox
[14:03] <IsUp> yes, different subnets and gateways in my case
[14:04] <compdoc> I use qemu because I run Windows Server, and Linux servers
[14:04] <ari-santihiyu> OK theenk yuu
[14:05] <bekks> compdoc: I am using VirtualBox for doing the same thing, but much faster than qemu.
[14:05] <IsUp> bekks: i can add 2nd nic but somehow ive never make it working. so ive removed 2nd nic
[14:05] <ssta> bekks: do something like: sudo ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:05] <BluesKaj> samster34, I'm sorry , but i have no experience with multiple screens personally , my recommendations are based on suggestions by other multi screen users experiences , perhaps you could ask in the chat in general , maybe someone else can help.
[14:05] <bekks> ssta: Then how would you assign a second gateway on that virtual nic?
[14:06] <ssta> bekks: route add .....
[14:06] <samster34> BluesKaj: It's not about multiple screens. the first screen won't work at all, no matter if the other screens are connected or not
[14:06] <bekks> ssta: a second default gateway? :)
[14:06] <ssta> bekks: if they're different subnets, it should work fine.
[14:06] <ssta> bekks: no, you can only have one defaulty gateway
[14:06] <bekks> Having two default gateways is never supposed to be working.
[14:06] <compdoc> ari-santihiyu, virtualbox can do most everything, and its faster, but it isnt really meant to run an OS as a server 24/7
[14:06] <ssta> bekks: I didn't suggest it would
[14:07] <bekks> ssta: IsUp was asking on how to set that up.
[14:07] <IsUp> ssta: i can see 2nd gateway on 'route -n'
[14:07] <ssta> bekks: he didn't mention second default gateway that I saw...
[14:07] <samster34> http://i.imgur.com/X1Amx.png   this is the nvidia-settings page for the screen...there are no options, I can't do anything
[14:07] <bekks> IsUp: second gateway is different from second default gateway.
[14:07] <csaba_pap> hi! my os randomly freeze (ubuntu 12.04). I read that others have the same problem... Is anyone know a solution for this?
[14:08] <IsUp> let me pbin my route -n output
[14:08] <IsUp> here: http://pastebin.ca/2168765
[14:08] <ssta> IsUp: each gateway configured is for a dofferent 'network' (of whatever size).  Anything NOT for that network goes over the "default" gateway.  You can only have one default gateway
[14:09] <IsUp> ssta: ok then should i add 2nd nic?
[14:09] <ssta> IsUp: it won't help
[14:09] <ssta> IsUp: this isn't an issue of how many NICs you have.
[14:10] <samster34> help, anyone? how can I add displaymodes to a screen?
[14:10] <ssta> IsUp: you haven't given the virtual interface a gateway...
[14:10] <IsUp> ssta: okay, understood. what should i do in this case?
[14:10] <ssta> IsUp: what exactly do you want it to DO?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> samster34,  pastebin the output ,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[14:11] <caspinol> Hello, I installed a arm compiler on my system for Codesourcery. I added it to a PATH but for some reason programs do not see it. I keep getting: "/bin/sh: arm-none-eabi-cc: command not found" while running make file or in Eclipse can anybody advise please??
[14:11] <IsUp> ssta: i need to make it working 2nd IP. but as i said i have 2 IPs with different gateways/subnets
[14:12] <IsUp> ssta: i dont know the best approach, if needed i can setup another virtual server and run 2nd IP on it
[14:12] <samster34> BluesKaj: how does that help with the screen?
[14:12] <ssta> IsUp: that's fine...you need to setup the second IP with a gateway and make one of them "default"
[14:12] <IsUp> ssta: okay adding 'gateway' in interfaces is enough for this?
[14:12] <ssta> IsUp: you will probably need to create some if-up scripts to do thisd
[14:12] <samster34> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/EcLZvhTY
[14:13] <BluesKaj> samster34, it will give us a list of the drivers and nvidia apps installed
[14:13] <ssta> IsUp: not sure, but probably not.  You need to run: "route add gw <ip address> <interface>" for one of them, and "route add default gw <ip address> <interface>" for the other
[14:14] <samster34> the issue is doesnt seem to be driver, it's the driver not auto detecting the monitor's display modes
[14:14] <IsUp> ssta: okay i am not adding 'gateway' then. just trying route, right?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> samster34, run an update and upgrade , your nvidia settings needs it
[14:15] <ssta> IsUp: I don't know if there is magic in /etc/networks/interfaces to do that for you.  Have a look at "man 5 interfaces" to find out.  Putting scripts in /etc/networks/if-up.d will definitely work
[14:15] <samster34> BluesKaj: can I just upgrade these?  I've been spending WEEKS trying to get ubuntu to work, and I'm kinda running out of patience :)
[14:18] <ssta> IsUp: it's the one it uses if nothing else matches
[14:18] <IsUp> ssta: okay, one last question. i can see '2nd IP's gateway' on 'route -n', why is that?
[14:19] <IsUp> ssta: and how can i remove this entry? i want to delete it before running the commands you gave me
[14:19] <ssta> IsUp: no you can't.    So it will ONLY route traffic for that subnet to that NIC
[14:19] <ssta> IsUp: route del...
[14:19] <samster34> BluesKaj: apt-get says nvidia-settings is already the newest version...
[14:20] <anthology> test
[14:20] <ssta> anthology: it didn't work
[14:20] <IsUp> ssta: okay i've removed now
[14:21] <kristenbb> Hello,  Im getting the following error with my c++ eclipse juno project, with linux 64bits:  "Error:  description:Error 127 occurred while running autoreconf", "resource: MyProject", "location: -1", "type: Configure Problem".  However my project builds successfully from command line. What is happening ?
[14:22] <samster34> BluesKaj: ??
[14:22] <ssta> kristenbb: you might have more luck in #eclipse?
[14:22] <IsUp> ssta: it says "gw: No address associated with name"
[14:23] <BluesKaj> samster34, did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig , after this latest install ?
[14:23] <kristenbb> ssta: I tried there too and no I didn't get any answer :(. I'm having this problem for a few days and can't find any help anywhere :(
[14:23] <kristenbb> I've been having*
[14:23] <samster34> BluesKaj: yes, it left all screens non functional.
[14:23] <samster34> you want the config it generated?
[14:24] <ssta> IsUp: you need a static route to that gw first
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ok samster34 , let's have a look
[14:25] <samster34> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/K6QgBCEK
[14:25] <IsUp> ssta: sorry for confusion but may you point me to a similiar configuration or something?
[14:25] <IsUp> ssta: my current configuration http://pastebin.ca/2168765
[14:27] <samster34> BluesKaj: and with that config, the first screen stays off, and the other tow just display a light gray for all eternity.
[14:28] <T-> hello
[14:32] <ssta> IsUp: http://linux.m2osw.com/two_ips_on_one_nic
[14:32] <BluesKaj> samster34, have you rebooted since choosing the 303.17 recommended driver , that's all I can think of atm. Otherwise I'm out of ideas. Xorg looks normal but that doesn't mean much with multiple screens etc
[14:33] <samster34> BluesKaj: I have
[14:33] <samster34> the issue is the screen is not recognized, and the only mode listed is 800x600
[14:33] <IsUp> ssta: thank you, let me check
[14:34] <IsUp> ssta: is that normal 'RTNETLINK answers: File exists' ?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> yes , I'm aware what your issue is samster34. Are you sure the 302.17 driver is the recommended driver in restricted drivers ?
[14:38] <samster34> BluesKaj: I'm not sure of anything
[14:40] <BluesKaj> samster34, i know you're focused on the xconf file , but if the wrong driver is in use then the settings won't be available in the nvidis GUI
[14:40] <BluesKaj> nvidia GUI
[14:41] <samster34> it's not the driver, I think the screen isn't playing nice with the EDID
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> samster34: is the screen reporting EDID?
[14:42] <samster34> ActionParsnip: I dunno. It doesn't look like it.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> samster34: you can check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> samster34: good screens do it :)
[14:42] <samster34> ActionParsnip: what am I looking for in the log file
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> samster34: 'edid', you can even run:  grep -i edid /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to make the system do it for you
[14:44] <samster34> [    57.350] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): The EDID read for display device DFP-0 is invalid: the
[14:44] <samster34> [    57.350] (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     checksum for EDID version 1 extension is invalid.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> samster34: doesn't look great, the screen isn't reporting EDID, you'll need to tell the driver what refreshes to use and so forth
[14:45] <samster34> yup
[14:45] <rickyzhang> ?
[14:45] <samster34> trying to add the modes to the xconf now
[14:46] <samster34> ActionParsnip: hold on, I saw a thing somewhere about exporting the EDID from win7 and listing the binary file in the xconfig
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> samster34: worth a shot I guess
[14:47] <hw_junkie> exit
[14:47] <jalal>  when i execute a programe from menu list it said cant be execute as non root user
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> jalal: what app is it?
[14:47] <jalal> so how to execute that programe as non roo user?
[14:47] <jalal> remastersys
[14:47] <zastaph> hmm it's impossible to find a good open source hdd erase utility that also fixes bad sectors
[14:47] <jalal> i installed it using su root
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> jalal: run: gksudo remastersys
[14:48] <jalal> i want to launch it from menu
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> jalal: you cannot install anything without root :)
[14:48] <jalal> i know but it giving me eeror
[14:48] <jalal> then you cant run this application as non root user
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> jalal: modify the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications and prefix the command with gksudo
[14:48] <leoleen> hey guys how do you install remastersys on oncelot?
[14:49] <jalal> i did not understood action
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> !!info remastersys
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> leoleen: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html   lists the ppa
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> leoleen: http://dedoimedo.com/computers/remastersys.html
[14:51] <leoleen> ActionParsnip thanks hey, let me check it out
[14:53] <excalibr> people, how do i reset folder view settings in nautilus?
[14:54] <Zerpex> can any tell me, if I do ping http://domain.com/ how does it solve the IP? Does it do a full DNS lookup or?
[14:54] <Toph2> excalibr,,, under 'View', not?
[14:54] <gRAVIty_> I am not able get my IP assigned to my ubuntu 12.04. I have a dynamic IP. It works pefectly on windows. any work arounds?
[14:55] <icook> ...
[14:55] <excalibr> Toph2: i want to reset views for all folders
[14:56] <gRAVIty_> ethernet problems anybody?
[14:56] <gRAVIty_> *ethernet problem solvers anybody
[14:56] <dr_willis> none for me thanks.. im driveing..
[14:57] <dr_willis> ;)
[14:57] <Toph2> excalibr,,, like, you want to switch between icon or list view?
[14:57] <Guest93671> info adante
[14:57] <gRAVIty_> I am not able get my IP assigned to my ubuntu 12.04. I have a dynamic IP. It works pefectly on windows. any work arounds?
[14:58] <oCean> gRAVIty_: no need to repeat that quickly
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: try:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[14:58] <gRAVIty_> oCean: ok
[14:58] <BluesKaj> gRAVIty_, ifconfig , look beside inet
[14:58] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: does it work better than dhclient eth0?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: worth a try
[14:59] <dr_willis> i bet the 2 commands are the same
[14:59] <gRAVIty_> BluesKa: When it does not work ifconfig gives IPV6 address
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: likely ;)
[14:59] <dr_willis> !find dhclient3
[14:59] <dr_willis> !find dhclient
[14:59] <excalibr> Toph2: yes. apparently the view setting only work on new folders that you open
[14:59] <dr_willis> :) not quite how i wantes the  info
[15:00] <BluesKaj> gRAVIty_, set your router IPv4 as default
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its a symlink
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: /sbin/dhclient3: symbolic link to `dhclient'
[15:00] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: can you look into this thread . I have very detailed diagnosis for the problem
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: do you use IPv6?
[15:01] <Toph2> excalibr,,, well, all i can suggest is you play around under 'View' in Nautilus and see what some of  the options give you
[15:01] <gRAVIty_> BluesKaj: already done that
[15:01] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: I dont use IPv6
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: could disable it in the kernel with the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[15:01] <dr_willis> if using a router.. why not just set a static ip for the box. and let the router reserve it.
[15:02] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: I have a dynamic IP from the ISP and I dont have a router
[15:02] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: I tried this http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/01/quick-tip-how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[15:02] <gRAVIty_> shoudl I try the boot option u suggested?
[15:02] <gRAVIty_> now?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: could try setting a static IP in your subnet and set the gateway as the router's internal IP, see if it pings...
[15:03] <klj613> ati opensource driver (default).. dual monitors.. on my TV (1920x1080) the resolution is actually 'bigger' than the screen, so the outer edges ain't on the screen. any ideas?
[15:03] <Erealz> hello everyone im  running ubuntu server for the first time and i like to have autu backup now and again i herd bacula is the shit for this but also herd it might be overkill and over complicated for my small needs?...so what say you what would you recommend?
[15:03] <gRAVIty_> Btw it is sporadic. This happens only sometimes.
[15:03] <oCean> Erealz: please mind your language in this channel
[15:04] <dr_willis> klj613:  thats the 'overscan settings' causing issues.  tweak the option on the tv. or the video card config settings.
[15:04] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: Ihave no router. I think I need to get a router to try your method
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: is the ethernet cable ok? have you tried a different port on the router?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: then whet does the wire connect to?
[15:04] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: i am right now chatting with the same ethernet cable  on windows
[15:04] <Erealz> hello everyone im  running ubuntu server for the first time and i like to have autu backup now and again i herd bacula is the great! for this but also herd it might be overkill and over complicated for my small needs?...so what say you what would you recommend?
[15:04] <klj613> dr_willis, not sure what to tweak but i'll google it, at least i got a keyword to seach now (overscan issue) :) thanks
[15:04] <dr_willis> klj613:  my tv let me turn it off in its settings.
[15:04] <bekks> Erealz: No need to repeat it once a minute. If someone knows the answer, you'll get the answer. :)
[15:05] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: The cable connects to a small box with two pins RJ-45 and ODU. It is a wireless wired net. I have a box on top of my house which connects to my computer through this small box
[15:05] <wdp> bekks, he changed a word.
[15:05] <bekks> wdp: Wow.
[15:05] <Erealz> ok
[15:05] <wdp> :>
[15:05] <dr_willis> we dont know what your needs are Erealz  :)
[15:05] <nrdb> why has the ability to make desktop shortcuts been removed from 12.04?
[15:05] <klj613> dr_willis, ah, i see what you mean. thanks! :)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: I'd try the static IP, just to test
[15:06] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: can I try without a router?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: sure, just set the same IP settings as you have in windows, IP, gateway and DNS server
[15:06] <dr_willis> nrdb:  make them in your Desktop directory perhaps with the file manager?
[15:07] <klj613> what the best way to manage the GPU fanspeeds? is there anything which will increase the fanspeed as the temp increases.
[15:07] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: I had not thought of that! gimme a minute
[15:09] <dr_willis> klj613:  thats how it works normally from wwhat ive seen on my laptops
[15:09] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: I just have to set these things in the network manager right?
[15:09] <nrdb> dr_willis, there used to be a simple way to do this... now it has to be done by creating the .desktop file manually... which is a real pain... and error prone ... why was the previous method removed?
[15:10] <priyanka> Hi
[15:10] <dr_willis> nrdb:  i just drag/drop a existing .desktop file if needed.. ask the gnome-devs.. i imagine its part of the 'less cluttered desktop' mindset. I dont put any icons on my desktop
[15:10] <priyanka> any one there
[15:10] <dr_willis> 1000+ people here priyanka
[15:11] <klj613> dr_willis, my fan speeds seem a bit fast at the moment, when the load should be low. on windows i used msi afterburner to do my own settings (e.g. get to x degrees, go to x% speed)
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: sure, set the interface to manual and specify the addressing
[15:11] <priyanka> :-)
[15:11] <nrdb> dr_willis, I have had to since there are no menus to add to now... and most of the applets I used to use don't work anymore.
[15:12] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: Will get back to you 3 minutes :)
[15:12] <dr_willis> nrdb:  no menus to add to now?  what applets? therss indicator-applets for most every need listed at the askubuntu.com list od indicator-applets
[15:13] <priyanka> i installed ubuntu under windows but getting the some errors ..
[15:13] <priyanka> some log errors
[15:13] <nrdb> dr_willis, there are only a handful in the software center... which is where I looked.
[15:13] <priyanka> its reverting the installation
[15:13] <priyanka> what to do
[15:13] <priyanka> ?????
[15:14] <priyanka> anyone pls answer
[15:14] <dr_willis> clarify what  you mean priyanka and have a little  patience.......
[15:14] <dr_willis> hurry clarify it! come on!
[15:14] <dr_willis> hurry1
[15:14] <dr_willis> (get the point?)
[15:15] <OerHeks> priyanka, what did those errors say?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> priyanka  wubi?
[15:17] <priyanka> ya .. i have installed ubuntu under windows using wubi ... but its showing the error "C:\users\myname\info\appdata\local\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log." and reverting the installtion under windows 7
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[15:17] <IsUp> ssta: i am getting 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address' for eth0:0, something wrong
[15:17] <OerHeks> priyanka, use paste.ubuntu.com for that log please
[15:17] <Nogal> Hey everyone, I'm having some issues I was hoping someone could help me with... Firstly; my background blacking out when I click my desktop. My second issue is that I'm getting crash reports and I'm not sure what exactly is crashing. I'm not sure if they are related.
[15:19] <samster34> ActionParsnip: well, that didn't work. and neither did adding a displaymode manually
[15:19] <OerHeks> priyanka, and i would use 12.04 instead of 11.04. ( updating a wubi install can mess up easily )
[15:19] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: you there? You are aweosme! You just solved a problem I have been strugging for the past 17 DAYS!
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: haha np dude :)
[15:20] <dr_willis> gRAVIty_:  unless they change your ip# again? ;P
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: suprised you didn't just sety it anyway, its a wired connection so you don't need DHCP as the system isn't going anywhere
[15:20] <dr_willis> or did i miss some fancy fix?
[15:20] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: Really. I had atleast 2 mods of ubuntuforums helping me out and it did not work
[15:20] <priyanka> i was using 12.04 wubi's only
[15:20] <priyanka> :-)
[15:20] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: Now I can make it work whenever i want. anyway cool :)
[15:21] <dr_willis> err.. if the isp is setting a dynamic ip.. then it can change. and need dhcp. but not for the DNS. ?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: any wired systems I put no static IP and uninstall network manager, makes the OS sleeker
[15:21] <gRAVIty_> ActionParssnip: I tried adding those two lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:22] <gRAVIty_> it did not work
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: i see, strange
[15:22] <gRAVIty_> do u think uninstalling network manager helps?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gRAVIty_: if its all working I wouldnt touch it
[15:22] <IdleOne> gRAVIty_: I was about to say if it aint broke don't fix it.
[15:22] <IdleOne> you got it working, leave well enough alone:)
[15:22] <gRAVIty_> IdleOne: thanks
[15:23] <dr_willis> untill it breaks next time
[15:23] <gRAVIty_> Idleone: So I should keep this on all the time eh :)
[15:23] <Nogal> Can somebody help me with this crash log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081310/
[15:24] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip,IdleOne:or may be I will just get a router and put my linux on manual. that should work even if the ip changes right?
[15:24] <IdleOne> gRAVIty_: I am not sure of what the original problem was but I saw you thank ActionParsnip and say it was working. Don't go looking for more problems, is all I am saying :)
[15:24] <gRAVIty_> IdleOne: This is a one time fix. though i can use it everytime it does not work
[15:26] <gRAVIty_> ActionParsnip: If I get a router will this problem be solved permanently?
[15:26] <dr_willis> unless the router has a hard time getting an ip/dns ;)
[15:26] <Nogal> Does anyone have a few minutes to help?
[15:26] <falstaf> having trouble with my wireless bcm4306, have installed legacy installed fwcutter -- still no wlan
[15:27] <gigix> Nogal: what's your problem ?
[15:27] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: haha. The router thing is promised by the ISP.  I am asking can I have a static IP when I put a router
[15:27] <Nogal> I've got two issues. I've got "telepathy" crashing, and I'm not sure what it does. And I've got my desktop blacking out whenever I click it.
[15:27] <dr_willis> the isp is giveing ypu a dynamic ip. it may change at any time.. or not for weeks
[15:28] <OerHeks> falstaf, did you reboot after install ?
[15:28] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: But that does not effect the IP on my laptop. or does it?
[15:29] <falstaf> OerHeks, yes I have tried for hours and rebooted several times.
[15:29] <dr_willis> if laptop is getting ip from isp...yes
[15:30] <falstaf> I don't know how to check what is wrong
[15:30] <pv2b> falstaf: i had a hard time getting my broadcom card working on my thinkpad as well, i tried a few different drivers until I came upon one that wrked for me
[15:30] <pv2b> which is the driver you're using currently?
[15:31] <falstaf> I dont know how to check that --
[15:31] <gRAVIty_> dr_willis: hmm. thats confusing. I was thinking the IP gets assigned to the router and the IP on my laptop will be assigned by the router. Is that correct?
[15:31] <OerHeks> falstaf, my MCB works great with this driver > " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer "
[15:31] <OerHeks> *BCM
[15:31] <gigix> Nogal: 1st issue -> telepathy is related to your Instant Messenging stuff. What component of telepathy is crashing ? Normally the crash report should mention telepathy-something, this something is important to know.
[15:32] <dr_willis> router has a wan ip from the isp. and a lan ip for the home lan
[15:32] <pv2b> falstaf: try what OerHeks just suggested. it was what worked for me as well, although I had to install the firmware manually because my card was "not tested"
[15:32] <Nogal> gigiix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081310/
[15:32] <falstaf> okay
[15:32] <pv2b> falstaf: can you please pastebin the output of "lsmod"?
[15:32] <Nogal> gigix: in short: telepathy-salut
[15:33] <falstaf> how do I pastebin
[15:33] <Nogal> falstaf: go to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:33] <pv2b> copy what you want to paste into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:33] <pv2b> it'll give you a link, you paste that link here
[15:33] <quixotedon> falstaf: just copy the line of texts then paste it there at paste.ubuntu.com as Nogal and pv2b said
[15:34] <pv2b> ( would be awesome if IRC clients would have a sort of "automatic pastebin". )
[15:35] <lysergide> arent these rooms logged
[15:35] <quixotedon> pv2b: to know that it only can send one line of text is hurting.. :(
[15:35] <gigix> Nogal: if you still have the report somewhere, could you check if it looks like one of these bugs ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-salut
[15:35] <quixotedon> !log |  lysergide
[15:36] <pv2b> pastebin is a good thing though, stops walls of texts appearing in a middle of a conversation. there's nothing about the IRC protocol that precludes you from posting a lot of text, just server-side limits and general netiquette.
[15:36] <Nogal> gigix: is that the /var/crash/*telepathy-salut.1000.crash file?
[15:37] <josejr> hello
[15:37] <OerHeks> pc2b see !pastebinit
[15:37] <cntb> !grub2
[15:37] <pv2b> !pastebinit
[15:37] <josejr> !grub2
[15:38] <pv2b> that's pretty cool :-) but i was thinking of more like "you paste something in your IRC client, and it automagically turns that into a pastebin link". I know irssi for example has heuristics (at least it did, when I last used it like 5 years ago) that detect when you paste into the terminal and asks you if you really want to paste.
[15:38] <covi> Hi all. Can I simply cut and paste the ### BEGIN and ### END blocks in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, in order to change my boot order?
[15:38] <Nogal> gigix: I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for here....
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> covi: do you want windows to be the top?
[15:39] <pv2b> covi: the ### BEGIN and ### END "blocks"? those are just comments, so moving them won't change nanything
[15:39] <falstaf> Thanks for the help with pastebin I have posted the info
[15:39] <covi> ActionParsnip: I want Win7 to be the second, Ubuntu the first, and all other Ubuntu variants under
[15:39] <pv2b> falstaf: what's the link to your paste? :)
[15:40] <Linpassion> salve a tutti,
[15:40] <gigix> Nogal: I don't know whether the crash reports are saved somewhere after you closed Apport
[15:40] <dhiraj92> hey any django people here?
[15:40] <Nogal> I think I figured out how these are labeled; title: telepathy-salut crashed with signal 5 in g_return_if_fail_warning()
[15:40] <covi> pv2b: I mean everything in between as well
[15:40] <gigix> I usually leave it open, check which package is concerned and seek for a similar bug in the list
[15:41] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081327/
[15:41] <gigix> Nogal: can you reproduce the bug ?
[15:41] <Nogal> gigix: h/o
[15:41] <pv2b> covi: grub.conf is autogenerated so you shouldn't edit it directly or it'll just revert next time you get a kernel update, check the comments at the top of the file
[15:41] <IsUp> i want to define 2 IPs on 1 NIC. may someone help me about configuration & routing?
[15:42] <IsUp> IPs has different subnets/gateways
[15:42] <dhiraj92> can anybody connect to #django ..?
[15:42] <Nogal> gigix: is this what you're looking for? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081332/
[15:42] <dhiraj92> i can't connect
[15:42] <gigix> Nogal: looks like it :)
[15:43] <pv2b> covi: my particular system deosn't have windows in grub, so I can't really confirm, but I think what you want is take al ook at what's in /etc/grub.d
[15:43] <falstaf> I dont see any referance to any wireless driver being loaded!
[15:43] <Nogal> gigix: future reference /var/crash
[15:43] <pv2b> falstaf: yes, that is my conclusion as well
[15:43] <gigix> Nogal: thanks !
[15:43] <pv2b> falstaf: what happens when you do modprobe b43?
[15:44] <covi> pv2b: looks not that straightforward
[15:44] <t0x1c4v3ng3r> interdesting
[15:45] <gigix> Nogal: we're looking for that: telepathy-salut crashed with signal 5 in g_return_if_fail_warning() in the existing bug reports
[15:45] <pv2b> covi: just a moment
[15:45] <stoa1> 321
[15:45] <Nogal> I don't see one in the bug-report?
[15:46] <msq> Any one who can help me with Kile  in ubuntu 11.10
[15:46] <Nogal> I see this one:  telepathy-salut crashed with signal 5 in g_socket_address_get_family()
[15:46] <Linpassion> salve a tutti. sapete come posso far funzionare la chiavetta onda mw875up-k su ubuntu 12.0.2
[15:47] <gigix> Nogal: is it easy to reproduce the bug or is it random ?
[15:47] <Nogal> Figuring out that it has to do with chat clients let me try to reproduce it. brb.
[15:48] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081339/
[15:48] <shredding> Hey!
[15:49] <cntb> I am installing 12.04 lts desktop alongside w7 on ACER aspire one D257 laptop. now w7 wont start and ubuntu boots only with flash stick on . seems  grub was installed on flash instead of internal sda
[15:49] <pv2b> covi: would it be acceptable to have windows first, ubuntu second, and all older ubuntu kernels below that second entry? but have the default selection be ubuntu? so you'd just hit arrow-up to get to the Windows install.
[15:49] <shredding> I need some help with a shell script.
[15:49] <Nogal> gigix: it appears to be random.
[15:49] <gigix> Nogal: did it happen again ?
[15:49] <sw> shredding: you'll need to ask your actual question so that people know what it is to allow them to answer you
[15:49] <covi> pv2b: that's cool!
[15:49] <Nogal> gigix: no
[15:49] <pv2b> falstaf: oh, i shoudl have said, you need to do "sudo modprobe b43" - since it needs to run as root. my mistake.
[15:49] <falstaf> Lots of errors -- has to be some kind of software issue ... it ran fine on 11.04
[15:50] <shredding> sw sorry, one sec
[15:50] <msq> any one knows how to use kile
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> cntb: then run:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[15:50] <falstaf> okay
[15:50] <shredding> sw I have hash=$(echo -n $1$2 | openssl sha1 -hex) as script and it calculates the correct hash.
[15:50] <shredding> however, the var $hash is not the hash but (stdin) = hash
[15:50] <gigix> Nogal well you can report the bug with "telepathy-salut crashed with signal 5 in g_return_if_fail_warning()" as a title and enclose the crash file with it
[15:51] <shredding> How can I get rid of (stdin) and get the pure hash? I'm not that familiar with pipe routing.
[15:51] <pv2b> covi: in that case, you can edit /etc/default/grub to change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to GRUB_DEFAULT=1 - this'll put the second boot option as your default. and then...
[15:51] <gigix> Nogal: and mention that it happens randomly
[15:51] <samster34> hey, not exactly an ubuntu problem, but I'm trying to use imagemagick to merge a bunch of very large images - it returns prematurely though, with no error messages, an incomplete output
[15:52] <shredding> sw http://pastebin.com/LeEFZfF4
[15:52] <pv2b> covi: then you do mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[15:52] <pv2b> covi: then you can do sudo grub-mkconfig
[15:52] <pv2b> covi: that *should* change the boot order.
[15:53] <covi> pv2b: 09_os-prober?
[15:53] <pv2b> covi: yeah, we just want to rename the file 30_os-prober, changing the 30 to 09... so that it appears before the linuxen
[15:54] <anthology> Anyone help with address for SMTP server (for sending) for gmail? please. For Alpine mail client.Tried 'smtp.gmail.com:587/tls' and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but neither work.
[15:54] <covi> pv2b: so the number itself does not matter so long as the order holds?
[15:55] <pv2b> covi: the numbers are just there to define which order the files are included in
[15:55] <Nogal> any ideas as to why my background blacks out?
[15:55] <pv2b> anthology: do you get some form of error message?
[15:55] <samster34> does anyone know an image viewer that handles big images well?
[15:56] <covi> pv2b: should i run update-grub as well?
[15:56] <anthology> pv2b:  yes
[15:56] <pv2b> anthology: what is the error message?
[15:56] <TheM4ch1n3> samster34: GIMP
[15:56] <pv2b> covi: i would have thought the grub-mkconfig would regenerate the grub.cfg file?
[15:57] <TheM4ch1n3> samster34: mybe geeqie
[15:57] <falstaf> I have a lot of references to b43 (and variants now) I will try a reboot
[15:57] <pv2b> falstaf: no.
[15:57] <samster34> TheM4ch1n3, thanks, I'll give those a try..
[15:57] <pv2b> don't reboot it!
[15:57] <falstaf> no
[15:58] <pv2b> anything done using modprobe doesn't persist throughout reboots, if you reboot, the module will not be loaded :)
[15:58] <falstaf> okay now what?  hmmm
[15:58] <alejandro> alpine access gmail, but can't smtp out. i read a website where the fellow solve he problem by using certificates. mutt/vim/w3m configuration helps access my gmail account and my private account.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> you can name the module in /etc/modules and it will be loaded, or add the modprobe command in /etc/rc.local
[15:59] <pv2b> so the module loaded. what if you type "iwconfig"? does the card appear?
[15:59] <pv2b> ActionParsnip: we're not there yet :) going to see if we find a module that works for his hardware first before we try to make it persistent :)
[15:59] <padmick1> what is the offical name of the wubi pre-loaded onto a boot disc??
[16:01] <falstaf> it doesn't list the card by name but wlan0 does exist
[16:01] <alejandro> mutt requires sasl to access gmail or any other account.
[16:01] <falstaf> pastebin?
[16:01] <pv2b> falstaf: okay. so, go ahead and see if you can configure and connect to your wifi through the graphical interface.
[16:02] <pv2b> falstaf: nah, just see if it works better now :)
[16:02] <klj613> erm, all my windows lost their 'borders' (including the top thing u use to move them LOL)
[16:02] <pv2b> klj613: sounds like your window manager just crashed.
[16:02] <klj613> :( and installing SC2 via wine atm. im about to go anyway so i restart it when sc2 finish (hopefully when i get back)
[16:03] <beaky> I've got a system with only 100 MB free disk space, and apt-get wants to install >200MB of upgrades
[16:03] <falstaf> no wireless found -- is it possible it is loading too many drivers??
[16:03] <beaky> apt-get upgrade keeps stalling and crashing as disk space gets filled to 100%. What should I do?
[16:03] <meoblast001> hi
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> beaky: do you have excess kernels?
[16:03] <alejandro> alpine is great because it has a builtin editor. mutt needs to configured with vim or other editor to write your emails. w3m is used to read html emails better.
[16:03] <pv2b> falstaf: it's possible that there's no firmware loaded for your card. can you please do a pastebin of the output of "dmesg"?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> beaky: also run: sudo apt-get clean
[16:04] <meoblast001> i just ran ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase, and after typing the passphrase, it shot out a bunch of numbers
[16:04] <covi> pv2b: thanks, it works perfectly
[16:04] <meoblast001> should i write these numbers down?
[16:04] <pv2b> covi: no problem! just be aware of one thing
[16:04] <beaky> ran that, but I still end up with only about ~100MB free disk space :(
[16:04] <falstaf> dmesg
[16:04] <pv2b> covi: this'll break if you ever install more OS:es on your machine, since the default grub entry is the second one (number 1)
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> beaky: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[16:04] <beaky> alright
[16:04] <pv2b> covi: so if you have more "other OS:es" installed it'll always pick the second one
[16:05] <BluesKaj> beaky, how large is the partition ?, you obviously have expand it
[16:05] <pv2b> covi: if that happens you need to update your /etc/default/grub accordingly
[16:05] <ImAwesomeBro> Hello
[16:05] <samster34> argh...help, I need to copy a folder somewhere, but doing 'cp /source/* /target/' gives me "argument list too long"
[16:05] <pv2b> samster34: cp -R /source /target/
[16:05] <covi> pv2b: I see, thanks! If one day I need to delete my Ubuntu system, can I just format the partitions without worrying failing to boot?
[16:06] <samster34> pv2b: ahh, thanks
[16:06] <beaky> alright I've done rm -rf ~/* and there's room now
[16:06] <pv2b> covi: I don't think it woudl be a problem. grub would still give you the option to boot into ubuntu
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[16:06] <pv2b> covi: but you'd just have to arrow up to boot windows,
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[16:06] <covi> pv2b: I mean delete Ubuntu. Grub will be gone. Can I then boot Windows?
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[16:07] <FloodBot1> ImAwesomeBro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <pv2b> covi: shouldn't be a problem.
[16:07] <chicognu> amores
[16:07] <covi> pv2b: thanks :)
[16:09] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081373/
[16:10] <falstaf> The last few lines are the ones that suggest the problems ...
[16:10] <pv2b> there we go. as I suspected. the firmware files are missing. on my system I had to deal with that manually. just a moment.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> !find pash
[16:11] <pv2b> falstaf: can you please do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install firmware-b43-installer" and pastebin the output for me?
[16:13] <klj613> ati opensource drivers (default): how to change GPU fan speed?
[16:15] <TheM4ch1n3> klj613: moan to developers !
[16:15] <dangercrow> Anyone here got any knowledge of Puppy or Damn Small Linux?
[16:15] <hellyeah> hey
[16:15] <hellyeah> kompozer is kind of dreamweaver right
[16:15] <Great-Danton> hellyeah right
[16:15] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: well, I don't but I am thinking of downloading it
[16:15] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: how is it, have you got it installed ?
[16:15] <klj613> TheM4ch1n3, so your saying there isn't a way to change the fan speed? lol
[16:15] <hellyeah> Great-Danton:
[16:16] <Great-Danton> ?
[16:16] <caspinol> Hello, I installed a arm compiler on my system from Codesourcery. I added it to a PATH but for some reason programs do not see it. I keep getting: "/bin/sh: arm-none-eabi-cc: command not found" while running make file or in Eclipse can anybody advise please??
[16:16] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: Nope, I'm looking into a lightweight distro, but I wanted to know about it before I installed it xD
[16:16] <hellyeah> can you do same thing with kompozer everything
[16:16] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: Which one were you gonna get?
[16:16] <padmick1> what is the offical name of the wubi pre-loaded onto a boot disc?
[16:16] <TheM4ch1n3> klj613: well there may be, but its in the docs, or else in the sourcecode
[16:16] <meoblast001> if i'm going to change the size of an encrypted home partition, is there anything special i need to do before hand? anything different from a non-encrypted
[16:17] <Great-Danton> hellyeah; I am not Web Developer so I can't tell you for sure. Look on Kompozer's site and read
[16:17] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081385/
[16:17] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: also its a "dormant" project
[16:17] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: http://www.itreviews.com/software/operating-systems/dsl-damn-small-linux-4410/
[16:18] <padmick1> what is the offical name of the wubi pre-loaded onto a boot disc?? help plz
[16:18] <falstaf> This looks promising should I redo using suggested apt-get??
[16:19] <Samuel01> hola ism
[16:19] <TheM4ch1n3> meoblast001: backup your files to an encrypted DVD/CD
[16:20] <ClientAlive> hi. I've seen the tutorials where they teach you the basic principles of uml diagrams but I was wondering if anyone here happens to know where I can find something that walks you through a real uml project? Something where you start at the beginning and follow along step by step with a real example project?
[16:20] <meoblast001> TheM4ch1n3: but aside from that, just changing the size should not destroy everything? i mean... no more than on a normal partition
[16:21] <pv2b> falstaf: okay, try apt-get --reinstall install firmware-b43legacy-installer and pastebin it.
[16:22] <TheM4ch1n3> meoblast001: well it depends, did you use LUKS, because, if you did, you just resize the filesystem after activating the LUKS slice, and remember the encryption step is performed in-between the resizing
[16:22] <meoblast001> i'm not sure what i used
[16:22] <meoblast001> i just selected the encrypted partition option in the installation
[16:22] <meoblast001> whatever that uses is what i used
[16:22] <TheM4ch1n3> oh
[16:23] <TheM4ch1n3> well if you have your files somewhere safe, go for it, also you could try out a "fake" attempt inside VirtualBox / Qemu
[16:23] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: I'm downloading DSL now, anything you want me to check particularly on it? I'm gonna be running it in virtual box, and testing if it can do java
[16:24] <XiRoN> How do I give www-data root permissions, I don't care about the risks at all.
[16:24] <padmick1>  what is the offical name of the wubi pre-loaded onto a boot disc??
[16:25] <pv2b> padmick1: what do you mean? all of the ubuntu isos have wubi on them as an installation option as far as I'm aware
[16:25] <padmick1> but it is not called wubi
[16:26] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/1-readme_first.txt
[16:26] <pv2b> oh! you mean... what is it called when you put the CD in and double click it
[16:26] <pv2b> what appears on the screen and stuff
[16:26] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081402/
[16:26] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: almost very OS can do Java, but yes, testing DSL is a good idea =)
[16:26] <TheM4ch1n3> *every
[16:26] <pv2b> falstaf: you missed the --reinstall
[16:27] <padmick1> no what is the offical name of the software on an iso that allows u to duel boot
[16:27] <falstaf> okay ...
[16:27] <BluesKaj> falstaf, have you done, sudo modprobe b43
[16:27] <meoblast001> TheM4ch1n3: ah, ok. thanks.. just need to give a little more space to /, because i'm running out lol
[16:27] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: I did once try TinyXP, and that had real problems with Java I found xD It was missing so many dependencies for everything xD
[16:27] <pv2b> BluesKaj: he has, but the firmware is missing. going to see what the legacy firmware installer fell over on
[16:28] <pv2b> BluesKaj: because he ran it earlier
[16:28] <BluesKaj> wonder about the repos he's using , pv
[16:28] <BluesKaj> pv2b,^
[16:28] <TonsilloSloth> I have an inspirion 1100, trying to get ubuntu to run. When I run the installer, it is full screen and looks fine. When I boot up, it only takes up a little more than a 1/4th of the screen. Is there a boot setting I can change for this?
[16:28] <padmick1> cus i wish to un- install it
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> TonsilloSloth: are you fully updated?
[16:29] <TonsilloSloth> ActionParsnip: As far as drivers? When I install ubuntu I have it install updates during the install
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> padmick1: you want to uninstall ubuntu installed via wubi, is taht correct?
[16:29] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: What's qemu used for? Never heard of it before xD
[16:29] <TheM4ch1n3> meoblast001: I suggest checking /tmp for junk, or mounting /home to a LVM slice
[16:29] <TonsilloSloth> No additional drivers or resolutions
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> TonsilloSloth: recheck with:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:30] <padmick1> i wish to unstall everythin but on the last pc i done it it the wubi remained
[16:30] <padmick1> wipe the pc clean
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> padmick1: did you use programs and features in windows to remove it?
[16:30] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: its like VirtualBox, just without a GUI, ie CLI, and I use it CLI because it is more configurable, is a tiny bit slower than VBox, but more stable
[16:31] <meoblast001> TheM4ch1n3: LVM slice?
[16:31] <TheM4ch1n3> meoblast001: Linux Volume Management, I always leave free physical space on my HDD (LVM PV Free space)
[16:31] <meoblast001> ooh, i don't know if i set one of those up :|
[16:32] <padmick1> note wubi on an iso does not appear on windows cus it was not installed on windows cus it was installed on a boot disc so windows programs are useless
[16:32] <sybrek> hi .. could somebody explain me which driver i should use ? have a nvidia 9600M GT and thought that 295.xx would be fine .. but now the nividia settings shows me that im using 302.17
[16:32] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: I don't think this is what you mean? ->
[16:32] <TheM4ch1n3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TinyXP
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> sybrek: if you run:  apt-cache policy nvidia-current     what is output (please ise a pastebin to hold the output. Thanks)
[16:33] <VirtualBlackness> klj613: check out http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#KMS_Power_Management_Options
[16:33] <padmick1> any ideas?
[16:34] <sybrek> http://pastebin.com/w9sHeDNA
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> padmick1: ok do you have only windows on the system but the wubi loader still shows. Is that right?
[16:34] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081420/
[16:34] <gitesh> what do i do ? My workspaces and Dash is black & white
[16:35] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: I use Knoppix as a Live/Rescue disc, it atleast uses a fairly modern kernel, so hardware doesn't really give much/any problems
[16:35] <padmick1> sorry gotta go talk about it later thanks
[16:36] <gitesh> how do i restart Dash home & Workspaces ?
[16:36] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Any packaging experts around? I used this guide - http://is.gd/TWpHJh - to make a bunch of packages (mainly for scripts, themes and whatnot) and I've been trying to figure out how to upload them to a PPA. I'm assuming I need to use debuild to generate the necessary .changes files from the .debs I already have, but I've been unable to figure out how. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:36] <trism> contrast: debuild -S
[16:37] <Generalcamo> Hey Ubuntu, I am wanting to recommend an Operating System to a friend
[16:37] <Generalcamo> what is Ubuntu best for?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: getting users into using Linux
[16:37] <dangercrow> yeah TheM4ch1n3 it was a nlited version called tinyxp, but yeah so much had been removed xD
[16:38] <compdoc> Generalcamo, I use it for servers, but its great as a desktop too. Lots of free programs to do lots of cool things
[16:38] <Generalcamo> She is an Avid Gamer, would it be good for her?
[16:38] <trism> contrast: although, that won't work with that guide as far as I can tell, use the linked: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[16:38] <BluesKaj> falstaf, now run, sudo modprobe b43. again
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: depends on the games, as a proper gamer, windows is probably a smarter choice
[16:39] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: ok
[16:39] <TheM4ch1n3> this looks pretty interesting ... -> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=poseidon
[16:39] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: I'm also booting up a lubuntu machine whilst DSL downloads
[16:40] <duhamel> i have a 60 gb harddrive i pulled out of a laptop, i am connecting with usb 3 and after a minute or so it just disappears, what could be wrong?
[16:40] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: is there anything particular you want me to test?
[16:40] <dr_willis> duhamel: check dmesg command for errors
[16:40] <duhamel> im running Ubuntu studio 12.04
[16:41] <falstaf> okay seems to have put me back to a prompt.
[16:41] <dr_willis> could be flakey hd. or weird usb3 issue
[16:41] <BluesKaj> duhamel, does it show up if you do lsusb in the console ?
[16:41] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: you mean with DSL ?
[16:42] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: Yeah, or with lubuntu too if you want?
[16:42] <pv2b> falstaf: i still didn't see the output of apt-get --reinstall install firmware-b43legacy-installer"
[16:42] <BluesKaj> falstaf, that's good , no errors
[16:42] <pv2b> falstaf: that should be able to tell me why the firmware never got installed
[16:42] <duhamel> it did have errors and i was tryiong to copy it with ddrescue but it would just shut off after a bit i tried freezing it and it still would stop not ate the same spot in data transfer eitrher.so i gave up on recovery wrote a new partition table and it's still doing it.
[16:42] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: well running it in a VM, should allow the "hardware" to work, and using a very new linux kernel in VirtualBox/vmware/Qemu , would most often need an upgrade of the VM software
[16:43] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081420/
[16:43] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: btw, why do you need Java from DSL in a VM, I cannot figure out a use for that ?
[16:43] <TonsilloSloth> ActionParsnip: Ran all updates, ubuntu still only displays on 1/4th of the screen (as opposed to full screen in install mode) Isn't there a boot setting I can change to do legacy graphics mode or something?
[16:43] <dr_willis> duhamel:  i wouldent trust the drive. how old us it?
[16:43] <dr_willis> is it?
[16:43] <duhamel> it will show up for a bit then the light on the cable im ussing switches to a 3 blink pattern and its gone no matter how i try and list it.
[16:44] <dengaku_sco> Im having some trouble getting Ubuntu 12 to work on my thunb drive. i get it installed on the drive and all. but when i boot up, i get a error screen right off in DOS. and after selecting "removeable drive" i get a screen saying "Verifying DMI Data.." which lasts forever. I also tried Unetbootin, but that never fully starts Ubuntu either (keeps going back to the options menu). could I be...
[16:44] <TheM4ch1n3> and why doesn't distrowatch list the kernel version in the OS they talk about ?
[16:44] <dengaku_sco> ...doing something wrong or could i have a bad drive?
[16:44] <duhamel> about a year old.
[16:44] <BluesKaj> duhamel, what about a usb2 input ?
[16:44] <duhamel> i am thinkinmg its dying but it doesn't beep or click.
[16:44] <TheM4ch1n3> dengaku_sco: DOS ?
[16:44] <pv2b> falstaf: oh, that's odd. so it's not looking in the same place. try this:
[16:44] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: I just want to run a java box basically, that's light on RAM and hard disk space
[16:44] <duhamel> same thing with usb 2 3 esata or internal sata
[16:44] <dr_willis> 60gb and recent? seems weird
[16:45] <pv2b> sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[16:45] <dengaku_sco> or bios or watever
[16:45] <Macuser> hey i need help! when i installed ubuntu i chose to install ubuntu to the same drive as windows vista and no when i start my computer it automatically goes to ubuntu and i need to start windows vista!!!
[16:45] <Macuser> please help!
[16:45] <Macuser> now*
[16:45] <BluesKaj> pv2b, falstaf why the legacy installer , the b43 driver is the current one for most broadcom BCM43XX chips
[16:45] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: But using an ubuntu box gives me the ability to route it through a proxy for when I need to do some testing from an external connection
[16:45] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: well with Java, if its for development and you are simulating low RAM and low sys specs, then I understand
[16:45] <duhamel> ubuntu software center grub customizer
[16:45] <dr_willis> Macuser:  state the issue.. not ranting
[16:45] <Macuser> i did
[16:45] <pv2b> BluesKaj: most - not all.
[16:45] <Macuser> look at my first post
[16:46] <TheM4ch1n3> dangercrow: sounds very complicated
[16:46] <falstaf> BluesKaj, I am encouraged ... my guess is that editing blacklist
[16:46] <pv2b> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081385/
[16:46] <dangercrow> TheM4ch1n3: Na not really, you basically got the gist of it xD
[16:46] <pv2b> BluesKaj: that's why i'm telling him to modprobe b43legacy
[16:46] <duhamel> Macuser: download and install Grub Customizer and set it to look for other OS (It should by defualt) if not you may have overwritten vista during install
[16:47] <BluesKaj> pv2b, yes understood , is the pc really old ?
[16:47] <dr_willis> Macuser:  you see the windows drives from within ubuntu?
[16:47] <Macuser> yes
[16:47] <Macuser> i forgot what command i used to check
[16:47] <falstaf> the bcm4306 likes the legacy software ...
[16:47] <Macuser> but i did see windows vista loader
[16:47] <dr_willis> rerun sudo update-grub perhaps
[16:47] <Macuser> did that
[16:47] <pv2b> falstaf: did you try modprobe b43legacy ? did that run better?
[16:48] <falstaf> yes
[16:48] <pv2b> falstaf: so you have wifi now? :)
[16:48] <falstaf> no it still says no wireless networks found
[16:49] <pv2b> anything interesting in the dmesg?
[16:49] <falstaf> okay
[16:49] <BluesKaj> pv2b, falstaf , ok good to know for future reference , my apologies for the mistaken suggestions
[16:50] <Macuser> dr_willis will this help? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-fix-dual-boot-windows-vista-linux.html
[16:50] <duhamel> drwillis or BluesKaj do either of you have any ideas or should i assume its the hard drive? I just think it's weird that it seems to be shutting off after a certain ammount of time, not when it reads a bad block, you know? even if i don't touch it it will shut down.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: tested ram?
[16:51] <duhamel> no, what would that do?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: the apps run in ram, so if there is bad ram it may panic the os and cause issues
[16:51] <crispus> quick question:  when im in gnome, my external usb device automounts, when i load up in another WM, like i3, it doesnt.  how can i get this to work like it does in gnome?
[16:51] <duhamel> all my other harddrives have no problem.
[16:52] <duhamel> but even if i plug it in it mounts and unmounts and writes and reads fine for about a minute. then disappears.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> crispus: make sure gvfs is running
[16:52] <Macuser> dr_willis?
[16:52] <dr_willis> crispus:  its a gnome service  doing it.
[16:52] <duhamel> it's the only HDD that's ever done this to me.
[16:53] <crispus> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:53] <dr_willis> Macuser:  try it and see.. how can i know...
[16:53] <crispus> dr_willis: thanks
[16:53] <digitalghost> question: I have 2 accounts on my ubuntu desktop. id like one account to have its home folder stored on my ubuntu server, how would i go about that? thanks
[16:53] <crispus> i just didnt know what it was called
[16:53] <Macuser> dr_willis well the thing is that that link i sent you is to fix the opposite of what my problem
[16:53] <Macuser> is
[16:53] <dr_willis> crispus:  thers other automounting services.
[16:53] <crispus> ActionParsnip: what's the right command to have it run?
[16:53] <duhamel> my ram is relatively new and not given me any problems that i've noticed so far.
[16:53] <Guest10408> When installing bind, do I need to update the dns entry under /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> digitalghost: you could mount each folder via smba/sshfs etc to the remote server, the folders would look local but the actual storage will be on the server
[16:54] <crispus> ActionParsnip: im looking at gvfs-, and theres a bunch of options
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> crispus: maybe: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
[16:54] <BluesKaj> duhamel, was the drive acting up in the laptop before you removed it ?
[16:54] <falstaf> I am more confused than ever --
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> crispus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081452/   I have those running here
[16:55] <BluesKaj> falstaf, which ubuntu version ?
[16:55] <pv2b> falstaf: after you did modprobe b43legacy - what turned up in the dmesg?
[16:55] <help3333> hey !
[16:55] <duhamel> I'm not sure i got the laptop with a busted screen and didn't even try to firte it up. the guy that gave it to me said it was running fine but he had to hook up to a monitor.
[16:55] <help3333> how can i take full folder permission
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> pv2b: could use:  sudo modprobe -vv b43legacy
[16:55] <help3333> ubuntu 11.04
[16:55] <crispus> ActionParsnip: thank you
[16:55] <falstaf> BluesKaj, No problem I appreciate all the help -- I learn as I go
[16:55] <Oli_> How do I set mouse polling rate to 500 or 1000Hz permanently, and also turn off mouse smoothing, acceleration, etc?
[16:55] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, would i need to edit something in /etc on both the desktop and server? and how could i auto mount sftp://myaddress/home/user when i log in on my laptop?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> digitalghost: you could use keys so you don't need a pass and you can add it to the user's startup
[16:56] <crispus> ActionParsnip: it appears i have all the same ones running
[16:56] <TonsilloSloth> What's a common vga boot option for older machines... vga=791?
[16:56] <falstaf> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with Mate as the GUI
[16:56] <duhamel> I don't know if i beleive him though, i bought him the laptop and then he gave it back when i fixed his PC.
[16:57] <duhamel> He's kind of inconsiderate like that.
[16:57] <help3333> how to take full folder permission all the time !!!!!!!!!!!11
[16:57] <SkippersBoss> help3333, what are you trying to do
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> help3333: you don't need it all the time
[16:57] <help3333> action all the time
[16:57] <nothing> m
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> help3333: so when you are surfing the web you need full folder access...no
[16:58] <help3333> yeah i want people ot hack me
[16:58] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, thank you. how can i make it where the user on my laptop has its passwd stored on the server? trying to grab the login from the /etc/shadow from the server
[16:58] <help3333> if they ever care too
[16:58] <help3333> specially that it is linux not windows or mac
[16:58] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081450/
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> help3333: they'll have access to all the stored passwords and so forth, its not advised or supported
[16:59] <pv2b> falstaf: that is odd. Can you please do an ls -lR /lib/firmware ?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> help3333: if you want a root shell where you have full access, run:  sudo -i
[16:59] <help3333> i care to be hacked
[16:59] <optimight> hi .. I am trying to join #haskell ,,  but it shows only one person in that channel, any solution?
[16:59] <duhamel> Well, thank you to all you sexy computer nerds that tried to help me. I'll just play around, Maybe I'll come back if I still can't get it.
[16:59] <help3333> if you don't mind.. my choice
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> help3333: its not supported here, not my choice. channel policy
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> help3333: so yes, i mind
[17:00] <pv2b> it is odd, isn't it, it's as if it's looking in the wrong place for the firmware.
[17:00] <optimight> Anybody facing similar problem in joining #haskell or any other channel
[17:02] <digitalghost> help3333, pm me
[17:03] <Macuser> so can anyone else help me?
[17:04] <pv2b> Macuser: i'm sorry, what was your issue now again?
[17:05] <Macuser> I installed ubuntu 12.04 for a dual boot with windows vista and now every time i reboot or start my computer it automatically boots ubuntu and i need to boot vista! so how do i get my boot menu back
[17:05] <samster34> hmm...I'm using imagemagick to merge some images, and I'm getting "error: maximum supported resolution is 65500 pixels". I'm certain I was able to create much bigger images with the windows version though...
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Macuser: if you run:  sudo update-grub    do you see windows listed?
[17:05] <pv2b> Macuser: okay, so you're not even given the choice to boot? i notice your nickname, is this a standard PC where you're running vista and ubuntu, or are you trying to run it all on a mac?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> samster34: maybe the windows version is compiled different
[17:06] <BluesKaj> pv2b, falstaf , you may need to install b43-fwcutter for leagacy firmware
[17:06] <digitalghost> Macuser, when you reboot, hold down right shift before ubuntu boots, should be the grub menu, go down to recovery menu..
[17:06] <pv2b> BluesKaj: he already has.
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> samster34: have you tried in #imagemagick
[17:06] <BluesKaj> pv2b, ok
[17:06] <pv2b> BluesKaj: but for some reason teh driver isn't piiccking it up
[17:06] <samster34> ActionParsnip: there is such a channel? heh
[17:06] <Macuser> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:06] <digitalghost> Macuser, then chose grub update
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Macuser: if you hold SHIFT at boot, do you see the windows option?
[17:06] <Macuser> oh i will try one sec
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> samster34: yes, try it. It's free to try
[17:07] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, is it grub update in recovery mode? its something like that.
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> digitalghost: you can run it in root recovery, yes. You can even run it in a chroot :)
[17:07] <Macuser> well it said grub loading and then i let go and it stopped should i try again but hold it the whole time ActionParsnip?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Macuser: yes hold it down til grub shows
[17:08] <Macuser> ok
[17:08] <gitesh> nm, solved(50%).
[17:08] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081480/
[17:08] <Macuser> well i tried and it says grub loading and then it starts to boot ubuntu.
[17:08] <Macuser> :(
[17:08] <digitalghost> Macuser, if windows is not on the list to boot pick recovery
[17:08] <Macuser> well it doesn't give me a list digitalghost
[17:09] <Macuser> it just says loading GRUB.. and then starts my ubuntu boot
[17:09] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, ok now you can walk him how to do the grub update in chroot. :)
[17:09] <BluesKaj> falstaf,  what does , wlist wlan0 scan , output ?
[17:09] <Macuser> i knew this had to do something with chroot
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> digitalghost: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   why bother
[17:10] <pv2b> falstaf: ls: cannot open directory /lib/firmware/b43legacy: Permission denied --- that's very odd.
[17:10] <pv2b> falstaf: that's exactly the spot i wanted to look.
[17:10] <BlouBlou> I've just plugged my electric guitar to my PC. is there any good program to modify the sound?
[17:10] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, ahh.. good point..if Macuser seen that message.
[17:10] <pv2b> falstaf: ls -ald /lib/firmware/b43legacy please
[17:10] <Macuser> yes i did
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> zing
[17:11] <falstaf> is it possible there are too many drivers installed b43 and b43 legacy b43 ssb
[17:11] <pv2b> falstaf: not really, as long as it's picking the right one
[17:11] <pv2b> falstaf: which we're doing using modprobe
[17:11] <pv2b> falstaf: just them sitting on the hard drive won't harm you as long as we're just trying to determine a working driver manually, once we have a dirver working it might be neccessary to blacklist the incorrect drivers
[17:12] <bekks> pv2b: Are you doing that as root?
[17:12] <digitalghost> ill bet not
[17:12] <pv2b> bekks: he wasn't doing it as root. but still, that folder should still be user-accessible.
[17:12] <bekks> Normally, I user should have no access to device firmware at all.
[17:13] <pv2b> it's just a file on the disk. most of the stuff is readable. but i still find it odd that even with modprobe b43legacy that it's looking in the b43 fodler for the correct firmware
[17:14] <samster34>  ActionParsnip: well, seems there's nobody in there :)
[17:14] <bekks> pv2b: Because both drivers are using the same firmware.
[17:14] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081489/
[17:14] <gitesh> can you help fix this ? :- http://s11.postimage.org/fpxxb976b/Screenshot_from_2012_07_08_22_40_52.png
[17:14] <pv2b> falstaf: i notice you're taking a while to respond with pastes, is it because you're having to switch between computers or something?
[17:15] <pv2b> i'm only asking to see if we can streamline this so we can get somewhere quicker :)
[17:15] <falstaf> No it is a slow computer --- and a slow operator
[17:15] <pv2b> falstaf: fair enough
[17:15] <pv2b> falstaf: can you do another output of lsmod? as it is in this current state.
[17:16] <Macuser> hey digitalghost you still there?
[17:16] <Macuser> i need help on one step
[17:16] <digitalghost> yes
[17:16] <digitalghost> Macuser, om
[17:16] <digitalghost> ok
[17:17] <Macuser> um so i am root now and i need to do grub-install /dev/sda? is that right?
[17:17] <digitalghost> if that is the right device
[17:17] <Macuser> how do i know
[17:17] <digitalghost> did you chroot /dev/sda1
[17:17] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081496/
[17:17] <jtrucks> how do I install a GPG key for a 3rd party repo that I've put in sources.list.d?
[17:17] <Macuser> no i did sudo chroot /mnt
[17:18] <pv2b> falstaf: oh, you still have the b43 driver loaded
[17:18] <pv2b> falstaf: we need to unload tha
[17:18] <Macuser> i think that's how i got to root
[17:18] <pv2b> falstaf: sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[17:18] <digitalghost> Macuser, first do sudo fdisk -l and see what device are there
[17:18] <Macuser> yes and i want the divice that says Linux
[17:18] <Macuser> so i would do grub-install /dev/sda(what ever number is for linux) digitalghost
[17:19] <Macuser> or would i do just sda? digitalghost
[17:19] <digitalghost> Macuser, then do sudo chroot /dev/sda1 or what ever the device you need to install it to.
[17:19] <cntb> !grub2
[17:19] <Macuser> i'm not sure what i need to install it to
[17:19] <khan> I am not enable to update my ubuntu 12.04
[17:19] <falstaf> done
[17:19] <khan> in end it give me error not found
[17:19] <pv2b> falstaf: great. is it working better now? if not, please post your dmesg again.
[17:19] <Macuser> what if i do sda?
[17:19] <meoblast001> "You have queued an operation to move the start sector of partition/ dev/sda2. Failure to boot is likely to occur if you move the GNU/Linux partition containing /boot"
[17:20] <meoblast001> i have / and /home, that was /
[17:20] <pv2b> falstaf: also, did you get any error messages running that command?
[17:20] <meoblast001> am i affected?
[17:20] <digitalghost> ActionParsnip, can you help Macuser  with this?
[17:20] <Casey> i'm testing a script to see if its running, I need to add a line to the script so it will make a entry in a log file, what would the line be?
[17:20] <falstaf> no errors
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> digitalghost: that link is all I know
[17:20] <khan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081503/
[17:20] <khan> plz look forward my problem
[17:20] <pv2b> falstaf: okay, let's see a dmesg then :)
[17:21] <Macuser> hm we'll im not sure what to do grub-install/dev/sd(i dont know)
[17:21] <digitalghost> Macuser, i dont wont to lead you wrong, im trying to find out where you need to do what, havent done it in a long while
[17:21] <Macuser> all i know is sda1 is my main system
[17:21] <Macuser> sda5 is linux
[17:21] <Macuser> and the tutorial says do sda
[17:21] <help3333> i have a program that caches files to a locked folder and it keeps filling that folder with trash.. how to i make a shortcut on the desktop to delete the files inside the folder whenever i click on it
[17:22] <digitalghost> i "think" you would do it to sda5
[17:22] <khan> plz help me
[17:22] <Macuser> but the tutorial says sda
[17:22] <RandNum> Hi, I've recently installed Ubuntu 12.04, after the installation complete it restarted but booted straight intno Windows.
[17:22] <Macuser> ok im gonna do sda
[17:23] <Macuser> digitalghostlike the tutorial
[17:23] <jnordb> RanNum,  it sounds like Grub did not install correctly.
[17:23] <digitalghost> Macuser, ok.
[17:23] <RandNum> yea it tried to install to /dev/sdab when all of my disk is on /dev/sda
[17:23] <khan> help me plzzz
[17:24] <Casey> is ubuntu a Debian Linux system?
[17:24] <Macuser> hey digitalghost for some reason it won't let me unmount.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> khan, just ask your question
[17:24] <jnordb> You can boot from the usb or cd, then install  boot-repair...it will fix it for you.
[17:24] <RandNum> Is there a way to manually configure grub?
[17:24] <pv2b> casey: ubuntu is based on debian, in so far that it uses the same package manager. but the repositories are different
[17:24] <RandNum> yes I can boot from usb/cd I'm actually looking at a terminal now. I will try boot repair is that a 3rd party program?
[17:24] <khan> i use sudo apt-get update  ..updaing but in and it said failed to fetch archive not found
[17:24] <Macuser> i'm rebooting
[17:25] <jtrucks> Casey: it is based on the debian source originally, but it's different.
[17:25] <khan> here is error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081503/
[17:25] <falstaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081508/
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Casey  if ubuntu were the same as debian, it would be called debian
[17:25] <Macuser> and it didn't work digitalghost
[17:25] <jtrucks> what is the best way to install these:   linux-image-virtual linux-virtual
[17:25] <Macuser> well hold on
[17:25] <Macuser> i will try the right shift thing again
[17:25] <digitalghost> Macuser, ok
[17:25] <jtrucks> dist-upgrade or just specify them individually?
[17:25] <Casey> i'm testing a script to see if its running, I need to add a line to the script so it will make a entry in a log file, what would the line be?
[17:25] <Macuser> is that how you get grub?
[17:25] <falstaf> figured out a way cut and paste a little faster!
[17:26] <bekks> jtrucks: You mean packages from another distro release?
[17:26] <jnordb> Google Ubuntu boot-repair...it will tell you how to install it. I think it is in the repos, but it might be in universe or multiverse.
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> khan  it's a PPA, not supported here
[17:26] <Macuser> nope doesn't work
[17:26] <jtrucks> bekks: no, they are held back when I do an apt-get upgrade.
[17:26] <jtrucks> so I presume it's being cautious for me. (it's a VPS on Xen, so it needs the virtual optimized kernels)
[17:26] <jtrucks> Casey: use logger
[17:26] <khan> how to remove those ppa?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> khan: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tldm217/tahutek.net/ubuntu/dists/   that ppa doesn't support precise, I suggest you remove it
[17:26] <falstaf> didn't realize that terminal had a select all command.
[17:27] <khan> which not found how to remove?
[17:27] <Casey> ok how do i get to thw logger
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> khan: use software centre
[17:27] <khan> i dont using software center.from command how to remove?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> khan: you can delete the file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d  which is named something containing tahutek
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> khan  type !ppa-purge to find out
[17:28] <khan> ok
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: not a bad call
[17:28] <trism> jtrucks: you can do either (apt-get dist-upgrade; or apt-get install linux-image-virtual linux-virtual;) the second is mostly if you have other upgrades that you don't currently want to install
[17:29] <jtrucks> Casey: read the man page for 'logger' it's a command that logs for you
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> khan: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge; sudo ppa-purge ppa:tldm217/tahutek.net
[17:29] <BluesKaj> khan, alt +f2 , gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources list and comment the deb launchpad ppas with # in front , if you have upgarded your OS , then these ppas are nolonger valid for your ubuntu version ,then save thew file and update again
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> khan: either is fine
[17:29] <pv2b> falstaf: oh! didn't notice you pasted. let's take a look.
[17:29] <jtrucks> trism: cool, thanks for verifying that
[17:30] <BluesKaj> khan or you can also delete the deb entries if you wish
[17:30] <mavri> Hi!
[17:31] <Macuser> digitalghost now ubuntu won't even boot...
[17:31] <pv2b> falstaf: okay, seems the driver is loaded! have you tried to see if it'll actually work?
[17:31] <mavri> Is there a way to crossfading in Banshee?
[17:31] <khan> if i remove ppa it will remove my tool also which i dont from that ppa
[17:31] <khan> ?
[17:31] <BlouBlou> is there any command to force the kill of a process?
[17:31] <pv2b> BlouBlou: kill -9 <process ID>
[17:32] <BluesKaj> it won't remove the tool if it's already installed , khan
[17:32] <khan>  i am  using apt-fat install toolname?
[17:32] <khan> apt-fast is ok?
[17:32] <BlouBlou> pv2b: doesn't work, system monitor also says that cannot be interrumped
[17:32] <BluesKaj> never use apt-fast
[17:32] <BluesKaj> used
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> khan: no, just the ppa
[17:33] <lehjr> I'm trying to fill out a bug report for a null pointer issue in Ubuntu 12.10/kernel 3.5 but when I try to do ""sudo lspci -vvnn > sudo_lspci-vvnn.log" the terminal just hangs and hangs with just "sudo". Any ideas?
[17:33] <falstaf> is there a scan avialable on cl -- I am still getting no wireless found msg.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: apt-fast is sweet