[21:50] <Tesseraction> And now no windows open up at all.
[21:50] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Do you know how to setup Ubuntu on a fake-raid (maybe that would be better option than flash drive after all)? I have a X58 board (with JM362, JM363, and ICH10R IC's) Does ubuntu support fakeraid on any of them?
[21:50] <emil> ty
[21:50] <usuario> ty
[21:50] <DIFH-iceroot> I-Shot-Kennedy__: yes, but only the 8.10 alternate cd
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> !faikraid | I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> !raid | I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:51] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> alternate cd?
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> I-Shot-Kennedy__: yes, the one with text-installer
[21:53] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> text-installer!? agh! I just skipped Mandriva 2009.1 RC because the gfx installer is non-functional on their latest 64bit cooker. Only text-installer works.
[21:54] <snowveil> how would I run a bash command at startup of X?
[21:54] <MenZa> the text installer is very simple, I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:54] <MenZa> It's basically a stripped-down GUI without all the beauties.
[21:54] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I am not that knowledgeable MenZa
[21:54] <MenZa> I-Shot-Kennedy__: it's the same as the standard installer a lot of the way, just not as pretty
[21:55] <MenZa> http://www.madirish.net/images/virt/ubuntu_install.gif <- e.g., likethat
[21:55] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Maybe I should go ahead with the flash drive install. Is there any specific file system that I should setup (since it is flash media). Somebody told me some file systems are lighter activity side of things.
[21:56] <eseven73> MenZa: isnt that like Ncursive or something?
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> XFS, JFS, ReiserFS
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> or whatever
[21:56] <MenZa> eseven73: ncursive?
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> which would be best for flash media
[21:56] <snowveil> WTF
[21:56] <eseven73> MenZa: ummm google it :)
[21:57] <snowveil> tar, stop trying to include a folder I explicitly told you to exclude!
[21:57] <snowveil> maybe it include recursive folders automatically?
[21:57] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> or should I just use whatever file-system arrangement the Ubuntu installer picks?
[21:57] <yrlnry> badblocks gave a supremely unhelpful error message.  It said "badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0".  Apparently this is UbuntuSpeak for "You named the mount directory instead of the raw device file, dummy".
[21:58] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: I don't think it will make much difference; ext3 is pretty much the standard nowadays
[21:58] <snowveil> I'm trying to exclude /home/mike/.wine/ and all of its contents, and I'm using "sudo tar tarfile.tgz --exclude "/home/mike/.wine/" /
[21:58] <yrlnry> snowveil: tarfile.tgz must follow the --exclude...
[21:58] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: but maybe ext2 would work, if removing journaling would decrease writes
[21:59] <yrlnry> snowveil: tar -cz --exclude ... -f tarfile.tgz   I think.
[21:59] <snowveil> you know what, looking at the man page I think you're right
[21:59] <snowveil> it's starting to make the file, but it's not excluding that directory...lemme try it again
[21:59] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> yeah schnauzer whichever fs is easier on the writes would be better. Will ubuntu let me pick? (I haven't tried full install yet)
[22:00] <yrlnry> snowveil: if you put the --exclude blah at the end, tar will try to *include* a file named "--exclude", and then it will *include" /home/mike/.wine, and it will include nothing else!
[22:01] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:01] <snowveil> no, it's including the whole root folder, but not excluding the /home/mike/.wine/ folder for some reason
[22:01] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I got the latest 64bit version. The 9.04 one.
[22:01] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Running the live cd right now
[22:01] <eseven73> snowveil: sbackup has a nice GUI for backing up tar that allows you to exclude directories, once intalled you'll see it under adminstiration > simple backup config
[22:01] <jrib> snowveil: according to the man page --exclude expects a pattern
[22:01] <bahadeli> hello
[22:02] <sys64738> Im still trying to install ubuntu ppc 8.04 .iso cd on a G3 powerbook but I cant boot from the cd.
[22:02] <schnauzer> is there an option to create a usb startup disk under System > Administration? (I haven't used 9.04)
[22:02] <snowveil> I saw that "PATTERN" option, is that different than listing a directory?
[22:02] <cinex> hi. I am using mupen64plus. it seems the savefiles saved in intrepid do not work properly under hardy. they work but certain things dont. (the ocarina doesnt work). does anybody know why? I can't find out from google.
[22:03] <ceej__> Hey all I'm trying to get a line of commands to run when the server starts up or reboots, i've added a file to /etc/init.d but It doesn't work, I think it could be what's inside the file http://www.mibbit.com/pb/9CyaQ6
[22:03] <jrib> snowveil: well I'm guessing it's supposed to be a pattern...
[22:03] <jrib> snowveil: like foo*.c
[22:03] <cinex> ceej__: /etc/rc.local
[22:03] <cinex> try that
[22:03] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  when a system boots. the /etc/rc.local script is ran
[22:03] <eseven73> felix-da-catz_zz:  no one cares that you're asleep, why change nick all the time, noisy away messages are for the loose!
[22:03] <snowveil> so, home/mike/.wine/* instead of just home/mike/.wine/ ?
[22:03] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: is there an option to create a usb startup disk under System > Administration? (I haven't used 9.04)
[22:03] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> let me check
[22:04] <ceej__> cinex: Dr_willis: ah ok :) thank you....I also think what I'm trying to run might be in correct also
[22:04] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> sure is, I just launched it. What does it do schnauzer?
[22:04] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  make a script that runs all the stuff.. then run the script from /etc/rc.local via  scriptname &
[22:04] <cinex> ceej__: everythingin /etc/init.d needs to be softlinked to one of the rc$runlevel directorys
[22:05] <schnauzer> It creates a bootable installation of Ubuntu on a flash drive
[22:05] <yrlnry> How long should I expect badblocks to take to run on a device with 61 million blocks?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> yrlnry,  now many gb is it?
[22:05] <goathead> #math
[22:05] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: at least, it should ;)
[22:05] <yrlnry> Dr_willis: Around 61.
[22:06] <marcella> ciao
[22:06] <ceej__> cinex: Dr_willis I can put it in rc.local but would you be able to check if my sytax is correct, I tried running the line by hand but it didn't seem to work http://www.mibbit.com/pb/9CyaQ6
[22:06] <trustyourtech> hmm
[22:06] <Dr_willis> yrlnry,  depending on howmany badblocks it finds - it can vary i imagine. - I cant recall ever just running 'badblocks' by iteslf.
[22:06] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> oh
[22:06] <sys64738> Im still trying to install ubuntu ppc 8.04 .iso cd on a G3 powerbook but I cant boot from the cd.
[22:07] <cinex> ceej i dont know python
[22:07] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  dont use such a complex single line. make a script and break it down into somthimng more readable.
[22:07] <cinex> or nohup
[22:07] <ceej__> the python is fine
[22:07] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I just found this: log writes killed the flash media. The problem wasn't just the frequency of the writes, but that the log writes tended to be small, frequent, and often to the same page of flash memory.
[22:07] <ceej__> Dr_willis: I would if I knew how :/
[22:07] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  each command on its own line...
[22:07] <usuario> All my gtk apps menus are missing... except for firefox', does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:07] <oCean_> sys64738: ppc is no longer supported. This is not the channel to ask
[22:08] <jurtti> I've got a serious problem with fglrx on jauntu and ati-card. So I need to access termianal without the gnome/kdm to open first. how do I do that in boot?
[22:08] <cinex> ceej__: does || mean or ?
[22:08] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: you mean on ext3?
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,   im not sure what you are trying to do in the script iother then run a lot of commands it seems
[22:08] <ceej__> Dr_willis: but i need to cd into the dir and execute the command
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  so? tell the script to cd..
[22:08] <sexcopter> hi, just reading up on using nfs to share files on home network, and it talks about hosts.allow and hosts.deny. i like the idea of having ALL in .deny and granting specific access in .allow, but just wonder if i need to make any entries for localhost, or is that unnecessary?
[22:08] <ceej__> Dr_willis: I just want to cd in then run
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  time to spend 10 min reading the Advanced bash scripting guide I think
[22:08] <ceej__> nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8003
[22:08] <crdlb> usuario: did you try to get a mac-style global menu bar at some point?
[22:08] <ceej__> and then run nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8004
[22:09] <crdlb> usuario: firefox is not a gtk app, which explains why it's not affected
[22:09] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  so you put those commands in the script.
[22:09] <ceej__> then cd into another dir and run nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8005
[22:09] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[22:09] <Dr_willis> cd .....
[22:09] <Dr_willis> command....
[22:09] <Dr_willis> cd .......
[22:09] <FloodBot2> Dr_willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:09] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> unsure, the person who said that didnt indicate which fs was used on the flash media
[22:09] <ceej__> Dr_willis: ah ok, can i just put it in rc.local?
[22:09] <Dr_willis> rather straight forward  - you may want a & at the end of the commands also.
[22:09] <BenLord> hello?
[22:09] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> although it sounds plausible. log writes are constant and could do that
[22:09] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  rc.local is just a script.. so of course.
[22:10] <ceej__> Dr_willis: thank you :)
[22:10] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  how did you comd up what that line in  the first place?     cd /root/klasproducts || nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8003 || nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8004 ||      the || may or MAY not be what you really want
[22:11] <Dr_willis> and im not sure that nohup is even needed
[22:12] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> schnauzer, since I intend to use Ubuntu for longer than few months I'm just going to break one of my PATA RAID0 arrays and install Ubuntu on one of the orphaned disks.
[22:12] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Thanks for the info tho.
[22:13] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: that might be a better solution
[22:13] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Thanks again. Good bye all.
[22:13] <GuuZ> good day
[22:13] <HentaiDebian> Anyone deal with fingerprint readers and ubuntu?
[22:13] <GuuZ> can anyone tell me what this error is about: Mar 18 22:55:00 guus-laptop kernel: [  141.239202] wlan0: AP denied association (code=12)
[22:14] <usuario> ppl can anyone help me?
[22:14] <cinex> GuuZ: wifi ?
[22:14] <GuuZ> yeah wifi is working
[22:14] <schnauzer> !ask | usuario
[22:14] <cinex> GuuZ: sounds like a wifi error to me, but im guessing
[22:14] <GuuZ> but im reviewing my log
[22:15] <GuuZ> its a wifi error
[22:15] <wrektjet> question: should i partition my hdd NOW, when first installing ubuntu. or is it easy to just do it later
[22:15] <wrektjet> its a new hdd
[22:15] <cinex> wrektjet: I would do it during the install
[22:15] <psycovic> if i mount an ssh server, how do i cd to it in terminal?
[22:15] <usuario> does anyone know how to put gkt apps menu back?
[22:15] <GuuZ> its easy to do late wrektjet
[22:15] <GuuZ> its a part of the installation
[22:15] <GuuZ> choose manual
[22:15] <crdlb> usuario: are you going to respond to me?
[22:15] <GuuZ> but be sure you read a lil about making partings
[22:16] <wrektjet> i have the option rite now. i have yes
[22:16] <cinex> wrektjet: unless your new disk is just for space / storage and u dont want to reinstall
[22:16] <usuario> crdlb, sorry, what did u ask me?
[22:16] <crdlb> usuario: did you try to get a mac-style global menu bar at some point?
[22:16] <GuuZ> but does anyone know what could fix this error: Mar 18 22:55:00 guus-laptop kernel: [  141.239202] wlan0: AP denied association (code=12) it has to do with wlan but wlan is working
[22:16] <GuuZ> still getting these error
[22:17] <usuario> no I haven't
[22:17] <psycovic> if i mount an ssh server in nautilus, how do i `cd` to it in terminal?
[22:17] <usuario> it was after installing audacious I guess... but I already uninstalled it but the menus are not back
[22:17] <crdlb> usuario: pastebin the output of 'ls /usr/local/lib/'
[22:17] <jrib> psycovic: should be in ~/.gvfs/, check
[22:17] <epifanio> hi All
[22:17] <GuuZ> could powersafe trigger this
[22:18] <psycovic> jrib: there it is, thanks
[22:18] <usuario> paste where? here?
[22:18] <cinex> GuuZ: are u using wifi right now ?
[22:18] <perillux> I have a simple question but it would really help me out!  An answer to either of these questions would fix my problem.   1) how can I change the default session used when logging in, from the command line??....   2) how can I open the "login window" program to change the GDM theme?  Thank you!    I would prefer an answer to the first question though, but either one will do.
[22:18] <schnauzer> !pastebin
[22:18] <crdlb> !pastebin | usuario
[22:19] <usuario> !pastebin | usuario
[22:19] <epifanio> i'm having a problem with the last kernel update :-( ... i can't boot so i need to press esc when i power-on .. and select a precedent kernel
[22:19] <eighty7> Good Night everyone
[22:19] <cinex> perillux: there is a file u can edit for the default session. cant remoeber which one though.
[22:19] <jrib> perillux: /me gueses ~/.dmrc
[22:19] <jrib> guesses even
[22:19] <gRnt> anyone know a linux package that can open .rar files?
[22:19] <usuario> nothing happened
[22:19] <jrib> !unrar | gRnt
[22:19] <cinex> gRnt: unrar and unrar-free
[22:20] <sinbox> what is the command to test a modified xorg.conf in another screen? or is that not possible
[22:20] <crdlb> usuario: read the message from ubottu; it explains how to use a pastebin
[22:20] <cinex> gRnt: or unrar-nonfree
[22:20] <epifanio> these problem com up with the kernel update 2.27.13 and the 2.27-14 don't solved it
[22:21] <epifanio> i'm on a mac-book pro 15'' running ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[22:21] <usuario> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/133272/
[22:22] <wrektjet> uhoh. how do i choose the mount point for the ubuntu partition. is it "/boot"
[22:22] <usuario> already pasted at that site
[22:22] <blizzkid> lo all when gpg signing a mail in evolution, gmail displays the signature as an attachment. Is there a way to change it to an "inline signature"?
[22:22] <Fardouk> bonsoir
[22:22] <jtaji> wrektjet: you need at least "/" partition
[22:23] <usuario> crdlb, it's pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/133272/
[22:23] <wrektjet> i see. and the ebst oartition would be /boot?
[22:23] <wrektjet> *next
[22:23] <usuario> I installed gnomenu but I was using fine so far......
[22:23] <jtaji> wrektjet: separate /boot is generally not needed, except perhaps with raid or lvm
[22:24] <usuario> I've been using fine I mean.... but after I installed audacious, it messed everything up
[22:24] <jtaji> wrektjet: next common separate partition is probably /home
[22:24] <wrektjet> ok i will read a lil more i guess i dint understand the mounting article i read
[22:25] <Fardouk> hello, I'm french and in my TTY interface, my keyboard is set as american keyboard, I'll to change it on french, someone had a solution ?
[22:25] <crdlb> usuario: ok, try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-0
[22:25] <NemsSs> hello everybody
[22:25] <Fardouk> someone could help me in private ?
[22:26] <NemsSs> FArdouk you are french
[22:26] <usuario> crdlb, ok it's downloading here, once it's finisehd I'll tell ya
[22:26] <Fardouk> NemsSs: yes I am
[22:26] <NemsSs> me to
[22:27] <jtaji> wrektjet: what kind of system are you trying to set up?
[22:27] <epifanio> have you any suggestion about my kernel problem? do you know a place where can i segnale my problem?
[22:27] <Fardouk> NemsSs: my TTY interface, my keyboard is set as american keyboard, I'll to change it on french, have you a solution ?
[22:27] <_VIM_> psycovic: sftp psychovic@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/psycovic  or graphically: ssh -fYC user@host nautilus         And just view it graphically
[22:28] <NemsSs> Systeme > Administration > Prise en charge linguistique
[22:28] <NemsSs> et tu choisi francais
[22:28] <_VIM_> !fr
[22:29] <NemsSs> I am sorry
[22:29] <Fardouk> merci ubottu
[22:29] <GibbaTheHutt> hiya, anyone know how to get gnome-keyring/seahorse to work in Jaunty (or help me figure why its not). Works fine in previous versions and on fedora, and ssh-agent works fine in Jaunty (so I know keys are fine)
[22:29] <wrektjet> ok. how much space do you think i need for the primary drive for my ubuntu os files?
[22:29] <GibbaTheHutt> erm ignore, wrong channel :)
[22:30] <FlareDS> !ubuntu+1 | GibbaTheHutt
[22:30] <jtaji> wrektjet: need more info on your requirements
[22:30] <GibbaTheHutt> yep, sorry thought I was in there!
[22:30] <FlareDS> its ok
[22:30] <NemsSs> is someone on Jaunty here ?
[22:31] <wrektjet> jtaji: im trying to partition the hdd that im installing on. i will install windows sometime in the future, but i want to put the os files ona seprate partition too
[22:31] <jtaji> NemsSs: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[22:31] <jtaji> wrektjet: separate from what, your data? also it's generally easier to install windows first, but you can do it later if you must
[22:31] <wrektjet> this will be the primary drive using ext3
[22:32] <wrektjet> yea but i dont have windows rite now.
[22:32] <usuario> cdrlb reinstalled it but it was no deal
[22:32] <wrektjet> jtaji: yes sperate from data exactly
[22:32] <jtaji> wrektjet: if you are separating out /home, you can probably want anywhere from 10 - 20 GB for /
[22:32] <usuario> well, I'll try to reboot the system, be right back
[22:32] <wrektjet> ok thanks ill go with 20 to be safe
[22:33] <fremapesua> Hello everyone...!!
[22:33] <archman> hello!!
[22:33] <fremapesua> I have a question about Ubuntu 8.10... anyone maybe available to answer?
[22:34] <schnauzer> !ask | fremapesua
[22:34] <fremapesua> I have an HP dv4 1140 go
[22:34] <chazco> Hi... what is the best alternative to gvfs for mounting S/FTP (menu entry under places ideally, but not auto-mounted)?
[22:34] <fremapesua> I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10 32 bits but it wont let me at all
[22:34] <fremapesua> I have right now ubuntu 64 bits installed...
[22:35] <Kradziej> hi
[22:35] <fremapesua> works just fine but there some programs that are not ready for 64 bits
[22:35] <Mal3ko> hey guys whats the different: shutdown -r VS reboot?
[22:35] <gralco> does anyone want to begin learning C++ with me (I know a good hand full of it now)
[22:35] <Dr_willis> chazco,  depending on your needs.  i like the various' fuse' tools. i think theres a fuse ftp, or ftpfs fuse tool.
[22:35] <Huffalump> Adding a new printer in Hardy, it gives me a "not authorized" error with a message about password being bad, but I was never asked for the password. Where can I learn how to solve this?
[22:35] <fremapesua> Why i;m not able to install 32 bits in this laptop?
[22:36] <emma> I'm having pulseaudio problems again.
[22:36] <jtaji> Mal3ko: shutdown -r takes a time specifier (or 'now'), reboot doesn't, besides that nothing
[22:36] <emma> I'm wondering is there a solution to pulse audio problems? Is there a straightforward way, once one has lost audio, to get it back?
[22:36] <emma> Can you accomplish the same thing that restarting the computer does?
[22:36] <emma> Currently the only way I can get back audio is to restart my computer.
[22:36] <emma> That seems like a major problem.
[22:37] <bigrigger> emma: re-start pulseaudio instead of the system, can't hurt to try.
[22:37] <jrib> emma: well you can just kill it...
[22:37] <emma> doesn't seem to usually work.
[22:37] <emma> i'll try again...
[22:37] <elpiratadelcielo> hji
[22:37] <Mal3ko> oh ok
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hi, someone speak english?
[22:38] <emma> I did ps aux | grep pulseaudo
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hi
[22:38] <emma> I get two pids related to that search
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hello
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hello emma
[22:38] <sir_yodle> having a problem -- when I lock my PC for a bit or try to suspend it (which doesn't really work) my wireless connection vanishes when I come back.  without trying to determine the cause quite yet, is there anything I can try to get it working again without rebooting?
[22:38] <emma> I am kill -9 both of them
[22:38] <jrib> emma: what do they say
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> jaja
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> are you killer?
[22:38] <riwa> I'm looking for a torrent client.  Something lightweight.
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> do you killer?
[22:38] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: please stop
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> ok
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> hi,
[22:39] <christoph_> join #ubuntu-de
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> i from peru
[22:39] <DrHouseAugust> where i can find information for change the fluxbox style and wallpaper
[22:39] <jrib> riwa: btdownloadcurses, rtorrent, gnome-btdownload, deluge...
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> hi dr house
[22:40] <DrHouseAugust> hi
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> where are you from?
[22:40] <emma> jrib: have you noticed that pulseaudio is very fragile and difficult to understand?
[22:40] <riwa> jrib: Are they listed in order of your preference?
[22:40] <schnauzer> !spam | elpiratadelcielo
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> i like the serie
[22:40] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: Again: stop. This is *not* a chat channel
[22:40] <jrib> riwa: coincidentally, yes
[22:40] <jrib> emma: yes!
[22:40] <riwa> jrib: Ok. Thanks!
[22:40] <wrektjet> ok one last partitioning question: i have set a / directory for the os, a swap area for virtual mem, and a nice section for datd. i want the remaining to be ready for windows and i selected fat32. should i monut to /winows or is that just obvious!!
[22:41] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: this is ubuntu support. If you have a question, let us know, otherwise, join any offtopic channel of your choice
[22:41] <usuario> crdlb, it didn't help... any other idea?
[22:41] <elpiratadelcielo> thank ocean
[22:41] <elpiratadelcielo> i new in this site
[22:42] <DrHouseAugust> piratadelcielo #kubuntu-es  #ubuntu-es
[22:42] <emma> jrib: i would genuinely like to really figure it out, and make peace with it, because it seems to be the future of audio on linux.
[22:42] <crdlb> usuario: ok, pastebin the output of 'ls /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules'
[22:42] <dronix> !es | elpiratadelcielo
[22:42] <emma> jrib: It's so frustrating though.
[22:42] <jurtti> how does one "load xorg.conf" on terminal?
[22:42] <jrib> jurtti: one does not.  What do you want to do?
[22:43] <wrektjet> jtaji: you still here?
[22:43] <smartasstronaut> 12
[22:43] <DrHouseAugust> hi, someone, where i can find information for change the fluxbox style and wallpaper?
[22:43] <jtaji> wrektjet: I'd typically use /media/windows or /media/whatever... but that's fine, also you are probably going to want ntfs for windows
[22:44] <jrib> DrHouseAugust: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook.php
[22:44] <riwa> jrib: btdownloadcurses is not in the repos. I got the other ones though.
[22:44] <[T]ank> is there a way to boot using verbose output? in other distros you can just hit space or some other keystroke to see each process.
[22:44] <jurtti> jrib: I'm trying to follow these instructions, but managed to remove the restricted driver from my ati: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6918786#post6918786
[22:44] <jrib> riwa: you probably already have it
[22:44] <sir_yodle> having a problem -- when I lock my PC for a bit or try to suspend it (which doesn't really work) my wireless connection vanishes when I come back.  without trying to determine the cause quite yet, is there anything I can try to get it working again without rebooting?
[22:45] <usuario> crdlb, ok it's pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/133283/
[22:45] <riwa> jrib: Oh, yeah! ;)
[22:45] <jrib> jurtti: sorry I have to go so no time to read that
[22:45] <[T]ank> sir_yodle: have you tried a NetworkManager restart?
[22:45] <jrib> riwa: if you want simple, that's simple :)
[22:45] <jurtti> jrib: ok
[22:45] <riwa> jrib: As long as it allows tinkering while running I'm cool..
[22:45] <sir_yodle> [T]ank: How would I do that?
[22:45] <[T]ank> type NetworkManger restart
[22:46] <bigrigger> [T]ank: remove the 'quiet splash' directive on the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst    ...you'll see all the boot messages.
[22:46] <wrektjet> jtaji: ohhhh. i can type my own directory. i didnt even realize i thought i had to select one! ok. and yes i should choose ntfs thanks.
[22:46] <crdlb> usuario: ahem, you did try to get a mac-style global menu bar ;)
[22:46] <[T]ank> bigrigger: thanks
[22:46] <usuario> how?? I installed gnomenu and xpmenu and vistamenu, but not mac menu or anything
[22:46] <wrektjet> strange. there is no ntfs option
[22:47] <usuario> how to correct it then?? do u know?
[22:47] <jurtti> can someone give a hint about "loading xorg.conf" after purging all fglrx?
[22:47] <crdlb> usuario: you apparently installed this http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ in some form
[22:47] <[T]ank> bigrigger: quiet splash was commented out. Do I remove it, or on comment it?
[22:48] <whileimhere> hi I keep getting the nm-applet asking for my password each time I log in. Is there a way to make it remember and stop asking/
[22:48] <bigrigger> [T]ank: are you sure you're looking at the correct line? make a backup file first.
[22:48] <crdlb> usuario: did you use something called 'Ubuntu Tweak'?
[22:48] <usuario> crdlb, hummm globalmenu, I guess I have installed it.... but it was ok until I installed audacious how to get it back then?
[22:48] <l7> hi, how can i restrict my web server and ssh server to a specific range of IPs?
[22:49] <usuario> yeah, I have ubuntu tweak
[22:49] <usuario> if I uninstall it, would the menus get back again???
[22:49] <chronic> how can i update an installed app from a tar.gz file?
[22:50] <usuario> If I uninstall the globalmenu I mean
[22:50] <wrektjet> jtisme: will just leave the partition unused and i can always get back to it later
[22:50] <sir_yodle> how would I perform a restart of network manager?  trying to get a vanished network connection to come back.  other suggestions would be nice too
[22:50] <bigrigger> l7: the /etc/hosts.allow file
[22:50] <kitche> cast: hmm then what is called a domU?
[22:51] <crdlb> usuario: yes
[22:51] <crdlb> usuario: if you uninstaled this global menu package
[22:51] <l7> bigrigger: ah thanks, i'll check it out
[22:51] <maxbaldwin> sir_yodle: kill *all* network connections, or just kill the program *networkmanager*
[22:52] <usuario> crdlb, humm uninstalled it but it was no deal... well, maybe now I have to reboot right?
[22:52] <crdlb> usuario: any new apps you start should work
[22:53] <usuario> crdlb no, it's not working yet
[22:53] <usuario> crdlb, I opened nautilus up but no menu is there
[22:53] <sir_yodle> Also, my wireless conn. is called eth1-- its not an ethernet connection at all though, is that a problem?
[22:53] <crdlb> usuario: you uninstalled gnome-globalmenu?
[22:54] <sir_yodle> maxbaldwin: sorry that last was directed to you
[22:54] <usuario> yeah
[22:54] <crdlb> usuario: I guess try rebooting, or at least logging out
[22:55] <usuario> crdlb, ok I'll be right back then
[22:55] <wrektjet> can i just get confirmation before i partition the drive: partition #1 as ext3 #6 as ext3 #5 as swap and i left the remainder as "do not use". i can always com back to the unused portion right??
[22:55] <charm> How can I list what modules might be in the kernel but not active until I do a modprobe <modulename>?
[22:55] <Dodge-Ram> Hello, can anyone help me with ubuntu on ps3?
[22:56] <badfish69> brb
[22:57] <usuario> crdlb, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it workied.... tnx a lot man
[22:58] <usuario> crdlb, do u know any good program to remaster my ubuntu and put into a dvd to reinstall in another pc?
[22:58] <crdlb> nope
[22:58] <maxbaldwin> sir_yodle: it depends on what you're trying to do. Are you wanting to kill all of your network connections, or just restart the program network manager? if it's just the program, you can "ps aux | grep networkmanager && kill <pid>"
[22:59] <wrektjet> when i selected "do not use this partition" i can always come back to it right? im not cutting it away forever?
[22:59] <usuario> crdlb, ok.... tnx a lot for the help, I would say that I love you but since I'm not gay, I'm gonna say that I apreciated your help very much, lol
[22:59] <usuario> crdlb, may GOD bless you, and tnx again, c ya
[22:59] <iamthelostboy> hello.. I'm building a system running ubuntu 8.04, and when started / (on sda1) is mounted read only, and /var (on sda2) is read/write.. i cant see anything in the start up scripts on my working 8.04 machine that is very different to the non-working one, and cant see anything which is chaning the mounts around.. any ideas what might be causing / to not be remounted as read/write?
[23:00] <genii> iamthelostboy: / mount options in fstab are usually set to remount in read-only if there is some error at first
[23:00] <natalie> I need help.  Any video playback causes my computer to freeze.  I need to know how to fixt it
[23:01] <genii> iamthelostboy: So you should probably boot to recovery kernel and fsck the drive
[23:01]  * zoran
[23:01] <iMatter> How do you convert a binary .plist file to XML
[23:01] <zoran> omg
[23:01] <iamthelostboy> my fstab for / shows /dev/sda1  /  ext3  defaults  0  1
[23:02] <iamthelostboy> does defaults remount to readonly on errors
[23:02] <iamthelostboy> ?
[23:02] <wrektjet> ok im seriously a click away from installation.... but i wanna make sure im not messing up the partitions... "do not use" means its available for future use, right???
[23:02] <aspoor> Does anyone use rubyonrails here?
[23:02] <charm> I have a bluetooth pcmcia card and I'm just trying to figure out what module it might use? hidd doesn't show anything... the light on the card lights up.
[23:02] <Chaorain> I'm trying to install "Tesseract Trainer" when I run "./configure" everything looks fine but I get "configure: error: Cannot find and link GLUT
[23:02] <Chaorain> " help?
[23:02] <aspoor> is it better than just running PHP/MYSQL?
[23:03] <charm> Chaorain maybe trying installing libglut3 or libglut3-dev
[23:03] <natalie> can anybody point me in the right direction to troubleshoot my video card
[23:03] <genii> iamthelostboy: "defaults" is: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async   options.
[23:04] <jaguar__> lol
[23:04] <iamthelostboy> aspoor: ruby is a nice language, and rails is a fairly full featured framework, though php/mysql is a very common language and setup
[23:04]  * wrektjet is trying not to get upset
[23:05] <Pur3vil> anyone awake
[23:06] <sir_yodle> is it uncommon for my wireless connection to be called eth1?
[23:06] <dronix> no
[23:06] <Pur3vil> I don't see why it would be it's just the order that the card is in
[23:06] <sir_yodle> just didn't think wlan was considered ethernet.
[23:06] <Greencoat421> anyone familiar with ENvy or ati drivers?
[23:06] <Pur3vil> but I have some hefty network issues that I hope someone can help me with
[23:06] <Chaorain> charm, thanks out of curiosity how do I install both at the same time? "sudo apt-get install program1 ... program2"?
[23:06] <natalie> can anybody point me in the right direction to troubleshoot my video card
[23:07] <Chaorain> natalie, what type of card?
[23:07] <natalie> Chaorain: ATI
[23:08] <Dodge-Ram> can anyone please help me with ubuntu on ps3?
[23:08] <abdo222> Arabic
[23:08] <Ilie> hi , I just installed kubuntu, I'm having some problems with dual monitor setup
[23:08] <natalie> Chaorain: ATI Radeon that is
[23:08] <abdo222> Hi
[23:08] <Ilie> I have a 20" samsung tft monitor that uses the same resolution as the laptop
[23:08] <Ilie> any ideas how can I change it ?
[23:08] <Ilie> in System Setting -> Display it detects only the laptop (default)
[23:09] <abdo222> I can not internet sitting in CentOs 5.2 . How to do ?
[23:09] <Chaorain> natalie, have you ionstalled proprietary drivers? (probably spelled wrong)
[23:10] <natalie> Chaorain:  The flgrx was installed automatically... I haven't downloaded the one from the website and compiled it by hand if that is what you mean
[23:10] <Chaorain> charm, thanks that worked but now I'm missing pcre
[23:11] <ader10> ntfs-config doesn't show the dialog to mount my filesystem anymore, how can I get it back?
[23:11] <Chaorain> natalie, for my Nvidia I had to go System>Administration>Hardware Devices try that
[23:12] <charm> Same thing Chaorain install libpcre3 or libpcre3-dev
[23:12] <Chaorain> charm, thanks
[23:13] <charm> Use apt-cache search <whatever> | less and you should be able to pick out other things you might need.
[23:13] <sukumade> does anyone know of a video card benchmark program for linux?
[23:13] <natalie> Chaorain:  I do have the FGLRX installed at this time... but I can't seem to get the card to work quite correctly
[23:13] <charm> Where <whatever> is what you're looking for, i.e. pcre
[23:13] <Chaorain> charm, oh so thats how apt-chace works ty
[23:14] <verma_ii> is there a way to resent sound system in ubuntu .. every once in a while my sound system stops working (no audio at all) and the only way it works is by restarting.
[23:14] <J_el_Che> if one is trying to download a .deb package and a message come up indicating that the package is located in the channel, what and where can one find this channel?
[23:15] <J_el_Che> rather install vice download
[23:15] <Chaorain> natalie, what is the problem? won't work at all or a little bug?
[23:16] <natalie> Chaorain:  Whenever I do any form of video playback it causes my computer to crash shortly afterword
[23:16] <J_el_Che> anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
[23:17] <raistlyn> you should have a choice to join chat and if u know name of the room where file is then just typ #<room name>
[23:18] <J_el_Che> can someone PM me so that i can solve this riddle?
[23:18] <sir_yodle> what is the "module" pertaining to my wlan card?
[23:18] <Chaorain> natalie, do you have the right version installed?
[23:18] <qeed> hello i have a problem trying to install this package, libx11-dev this is on intrepid, and the error is http://rafb.net/p/NSW0ZR37.html
[23:18] <qeed> how should i resolve it?
[23:19] <natalie> Chaorain:  I think so... I am trying to figure that out right now
[23:19] <raistlyn> u need to fix the broken package list first
[23:20] <J_el_Che>  if one is trying to install a .deb package and a message come up indicating that the package is located in the channel, what and where can one find this channel?
[23:21] <raistlyn> if u were paying attention j_el_che i answered that question already
[23:21] <sir_yodle> looking to whitelist network modules for suspend in acpi-support-- how do I determine the name of my wireless module?
[23:21] <natalie> Chaorain:  should I try the open source driver as opposed to the proprietary driver?
[23:21] <Akkernight> Why can't I join channel #C++ ?
[23:21] <raistlyn> open a terminal and type iwconfig
[23:22] <genii> Akkernight: Possibly because your nick isn't registered on freenode
[23:22] <J_el_Che> raistlyn: sorry i didn't know you were refering to me...It's not related to..IRC
[23:22] <Akkernight> genii, I've been on there often before
[23:22] <sam555> where is the documentation for firewall in ubuntu 8.04
[23:22] <Chaorain> natalie, you could try but the propietary driver should be made by the manufacturer and work better
[23:23] <dreamy> nightrid3r: hi :) you there ?
[23:23] <natalie> Chaorain:  But why would my laptop lock up when playing video?
[23:23] <ZigBee> i've setup a repository + package, but when i install the package apt-get always wants to update the package altough i have the latest version installed, any ideaS?
[23:23] <dreamy> hi room
[23:24] <genii> Akkernight: Works for me, but forwards to ##c++   ... perhaps try that one directly
[23:24] <wrektjet> hey. if one selects "do not use this partition" when partitioning for the first time a new HDD that ubunti is going on, its simple to access that space later on, correct?
[23:24] <Chaorain> natalie, sory I'm out of ideas
[23:24] <wrektjet> becaus ei want that sapce for windows and there is no ntfs formatting option
[23:24] <Akkernight> genii, I'm trying that one...
[23:24] <raistlyn> no it is not simple to access until after it has been partitioned
[23:25] <raistlyn> no unpartitioned space can be access
[23:25] <J_el_Che> are there "channels" in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[23:25] <chronic> how can i update an installed app from a tar.gz file?
[23:26] <sir_yodle> where can I get a list of the hardware in my PC?  something like device manager in windows?
[23:27] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: lspci -v or lshw  you can lspci -v > hardwarelist.txt or something
[23:27] <mortal1> anyone here using 64bit ubuntu and have the java plugin working for firefox?  Sun supposedly supports a 64bit plugin, but I symlinked the .so file, and it still doesn't work
[23:27] <wrektjet> ok. so in the future its no problem to format that partition in ntfs. finallt i can click "install" !!!
[23:27] <oCean_> raistlyn: I think that wrektjet means, that it is quite easy to partition and/or use diskspace that has not been formatted/partitioned during initial install
[23:27] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: im sure there are nice graphical tools too
[23:28] <raistlyn> if ur formatting ntfs r u iinstalling windows ?
[23:28] <sir_yodle> pepperjack: thanks, that's perfect.  needed to find a module name.  is that the best way to do so?
[23:29] <raistlyn> ur probably right ocean unfortunately wasnt very clear in statement
[23:29] <oCean_> raistlyn: one can access ALL space at ANY time. Any not-used space can easily be partitioned and formatted, and then used
[23:29] <oCean_> raistlyn: indeed :)
[23:29] <wrektjet> i want to in the future install windows
[23:29] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: well to identify the module you need yes. like it you needs to know the chipset or something of your wireless card
[23:29] <wrektjet> but the partioning tool in the installer doesntoffer ntfs
[23:30] <sir_yodle> actually I needed to whitelist the module in acpi-support to keep it alive when suspending.  otherwise my wifi gets killed even when I lock the screen.  hope this works, bout to find out
[23:30] <oCean_> wrektjet: Indeed. Why would a Linux installer need NTFS?
[23:30] <wrektjet> lol. it wouldnt!
[23:30] <elli222> but it does in ubuntu!
[23:30] <raistlyn> well yeah ocean all space can be acessed but who wants to be chasing down sectors
[23:30] <raistlyn> that is a lot of work
[23:30] <wrektjet> btw how long do you think it will take to partition a 640 gig hdd
[23:30] <raistlyn> but then again i am lazy
[23:30] <elli222> it canoh wait
[23:30] <wrektjet> can i go get dinner?
[23:30] <oCean_> wrektjet: exactly. You can leave the space blank, and use it afterwards if you *really* need NTFS.
[23:31] <raistlyn> depends on type of format
[23:31] <wrektjet> oCean_:i want  a backup in case ubuntu turns out to be too hard for me
[23:31]  * elli222 slaps self for confusing wubi with live CD
[23:31] <raistlyn> what i did wrekjet is i let my laptop come with that vista OS (garbage as it is)
[23:31] <anom01y> how do I connect to cups to setup a printer that is connected to a windows computer (printer sharing) ?
[23:31] <Henry_> hi, i am newer in kubuntu, i have a problem with the usr root, when it starts it turns white and after black, what can i do to fix it
[23:31] <raistlyn> then i just installed ubuntu inside it
[23:32] <anom01y> I tried <IP_ADDRESS>:631, but nothing is there, cupsd is running
[23:32] <raistlyn> ubuntu formatted the 30 gigs i wanted for it in ext3 format
[23:32] <oCean_> wrektjet: I reckon, when you want NTFS, that you also have windows.
[23:32] <wrektjet> oCean_: not at the moment
[23:32] <cyberhacker> hola
[23:32] <Henry_> hola
[23:32] <cyberhacker> que onda
[23:32] <jaguar__> hola amigo
[23:32] <jaguar__> que onda nanyana
[23:33] <oCean_> !es
[23:33] <raistlyn> anomoly that is a router ip addy
[23:33] <wrektjet> oCean_: planning ahead. maybe ill get a copy oif xp or wait until win 7
[23:33] <crankharder> how do I drop the ubuntu startup screen to see the processes starting?
[23:33] <cyberhacker> soy nuevo
[23:33] <cyberhacker> que se hace aqui
[23:33] <mortal1> next question, does anyone know the .so that's the correct java plugin for firefox in 1.6.12?
[23:33] <Henry_> i dont know
[23:33] <oCean_> wrektjet: I understand
[23:33] <elli222> ls /usr/lib/ | grep java ?
[23:34] <pepperjack> crankharder: when grub loads hit esc to see the grub menu then hit e to edit the ubuntu entry hit e again to edit kernel line and remove the splash option and hit enter (i think)
[23:34] <pepperjack> or b to boot actually after that
[23:34] <anom01y> never mind I figured it out myself, glad to see people are quick to the draw here
[23:35] <Chaorain> how do I install multiple packages at once using apt-get?
[23:35] <pepperjack> Chaorain: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[23:35] <hacker07> apt-get install app1 app2 app3 apetc
[23:35] <elli222> apt-get install package1 package2...
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> don't forget package5!
[23:35] <Chaorain> ty
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> [also, depends first]
[23:35] <elli222> depends not neccecary
[23:35] <elli222> apt auto figures them
[23:36] <elli222> unless there are external depends...
[23:36] <Chaorain> what happend to package4?
[23:36] <elli222> it died
[23:36] <elli222> a moment of silence to package4
[23:37] <secondgenesis> what's the command to connect to a desktop running krfb?
[23:37] <elli222> YOU BROKE THE SILENCE!
[23:37] <secondgenesis> sorry lol
[23:38] <bosco_> i need to know if there is a better vps or deticated server other than linode.com that offers ubuntu ????
 budget is 40 per month
 i know i wont find a deticated for that price
[23:38] <bosco_> * BrunoXLambert has quit ("Quitte")
[23:38] <FloodBot2> bosco_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <bosco_> srry didnt mean to hit eneter
[23:38] <elli222> i dunno what krfb is
[23:38] <secondgenesis> it's a rdp server
[23:38] <LjL> !offtopic | bosco_
[23:38] <Chaorain> you don't realize how easy Ubuntu is untill you have to compile a package from scratch that you are missing 20 libraries for
[23:38] <elli222> xrdp?
[23:38] <secondgenesis> connecting with rdesktop isn't working
[23:38] <secondgenesis> nope, krfb
[23:38] <secondgenesis> it's for kubuntu but works on ubuntu
[23:39] <secondgenesis> tried rdesktop ip but all I get is the keyboard autoselect
[23:39] <secondgenesis> and no connection.
[23:39] <elli222> try xrdp
[23:39] <elli222> it works for me
[23:39] <secondgenesis> for server?
[23:39] <elli222> yes
[23:39] <secondgenesis> OK  thanks
[23:39] <elli222> xrdp is a rdp server
[23:40] <elli222> krfb is for RFB clients! not RDP clients!
[23:40] <elli222> read the description!
[23:40] <elli222> oh, and VNC
[23:42] <aboleth> hi
[23:42] <aboleth> i have a problem with my xbox 360 controller
[23:42] <aboleth> starting with 8.10 it recognizes it as a mouse
[23:43] <aboleth> i found that this is a common problem
[23:43] <wrektjet> hmm where do i get autorun from?
[23:43] <elli222> im not surprized a Xbox controller wouldnt work well with linux...
[23:43] <aboleth> i tried the solution here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-October/005956.html
[23:43] <aboleth> elli222: it used to
[23:43] <aboleth> it's not just for that controller
[23:43] <aboleth> its for all
[23:44] <aboleth> its a bug introduced in 8.10
[23:44] <aboleth> nothing to do with it being from microsoft
[23:44] <wrektjet> it says "error autorunning software" cannot find the autorun program
[23:44] <aboleth> even after adding the fdi file it still detects it as a mouse
[23:45] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Hey all!! Question about FREECIV! I tried to install the game through the terminal, but no dice. Can't find it anywhere! whats up??
[23:46] <pepperjack> SpuddlyMcMartin: look under 'games'
[23:47] <TEMPO> Has anyone ever installed ubuntu onto a hp dv2000 laptop i found info for in off of google but i want to see if anyone has actually been really successful
[23:47] <deany> samba question:  i enabled folder sharing in intrepid/gnome and it installed the needed components, and it works fine, except for adding a samba user..   "smbpasswd -a newuser"  typed pass in and i get "Failed to modify password entry for user newuser"
[23:47] <pepperjack> SpuddlyMcMartin: jk try pkill gnome-panel to see if it shows up after it respawns
[23:47] <aboleth> anyone have a fix for the controller
[23:47] <SpuddlyMcMartin> pepperjack: did that, its not there, its weird!
[23:48] <SpuddlyMcMartin> pepperjack: whats pkill?
[23:48] <Jeruvy> deany: if the user doesn't exist you need to adduser first.
[23:48] <Chaorain> In running "make" on Tesserac Trainer it gave this  http://paste-it.net/public/b64a9a3/     help?
[23:48] <TEMPO> Anyone?
[23:48] <deany> Jeruvy, doh.... i thought that wasnt needed.. oh well
[23:49] <elli222> Chaorain, link to program?
[23:49] <akincer> I have issues with a Q3 derivative (Urban Terror) where my network hangs for a second and my mouse and keyboard don't respond correctly all of the time. Anybody have any ideas where I can start?
[23:49] <deany> how do you add a user with no shell access and no home folder?
[23:49] <Chaorain> elli222, http://www.mushware.com/portal.php#mushware_shop
[23:49] <ader10> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/231265 Please help me out ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive doesn't help)
[23:49] <gencha> is there a command to re-create the snakeoil certificates in /etc/ssl? or do i have to manually create and overwrite them?
[23:50] <wrektjet> hey im trying to install the drivers that came with my mobo but the autorun doesnt work... how else can i install them w/o going thru each and evrey file
[23:50] <Chaorain> elli222, I'm useing Linux GPL
[23:50] <erle-> what does " Cannot utime: Operation not permitted" mean?
[23:51] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Would there be any reason why FREECIV would not install on my system?
[23:51] <akincer> network and mouse/keyboard issues -- anybody?
[23:52] <ruben23> hi i bought an acer laptop..if i installed it with ubuntu..do i need to install drivers for it or it would be detected automatically..
[23:54] <akincer> Where does avahi store logs?
[23:54] <bernz> fairly typical intrepid desktop system, tired of firefox "freezing" (b&w) too much, trying epiphany: installed via "Applications | Add/Remove..."; no new shortcut installed on the 'Applications' menu... ideas?
[23:55] <hatori> こんちわー
[23:55] <Azzmodan> hi to you too
[23:55] <elli222> bernz, Applications/Internet
[23:55] <hatori> hi
[23:55] <ader10> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/231265 Please help me out ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive doesn't help) Can't rename filesystems
[23:55] <Jeruvy> ruben: you should confirm directly with acer sales about driver availability, additionally you can check !hcl if there is any info.
[23:56] <bazhang> !jp
[23:56] <oCean_> !jp | hatori
[23:56] <hatori> thank you
[23:56] <hatori> ok im going ubuntu jp
[23:56] <Jeruvy> ader10: there is additionally a CVE on that bug, have ou reviewed that link?
[23:57] <ader10> Jeruvy, Yes, I was wondering if there was a workaround
[23:57] <ader10> thank you though.
[23:58] <wrektjet> i need to install all the drivers that come with my mobo but the autorun doesnt work. where should i start
[23:58] <Jeruvy> ader10: it looks like a duplicate report, maybe a search for the former may yield more, I couldn't find it myself.
[23:58] <aboleth> has anyone heard of the 8.10 controller problem?
[23:58] <ader10> Thanks.
[23:58] <aboleth> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203
[23:59] <dreamy> is it ok to install kde applications on gnome?
[23:59] <raistlyn> what controller