[08:52] <jpatrick> but (s)he wants to check
[08:52] <anto> What do i get best performance from ?? nvidia-glx or the shell script from nvidia.com?
[08:53] <chovy> http://pastie.caboo.se/111463
[08:53] <chovy> Bakkie: the only thing I ever did was enable unsecure/unofficial soruces
[08:53] <vzduch> I don't think it'll make a difference.. but using the script from nvidia.com can produce various pitas when trying to remove it while nvidia-glx is managed by dpkg and can thus be removed w/o any traces if need be
[08:53] <Bakkie> ah ok
[08:54] <jpatrick> chovy: and you want to upgrade to gutsy?
[08:54] <Bakkie> maybe you have to go back to official
[08:54] <chovy> jpatrick: that's what its trying to do.
[08:55] <jpatrick> chovy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42333/
[08:55] <Bakkie> sources.list in /etc/apt
[08:56] <Bakkie> maybe you can copy backup sources.list back
[08:56] <jpatrick> chovy: do "kdesudo kate" and save that file to /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <vzduch> jpatrick: s/kdesudo/kdesu/
[08:57] <jpatrick> vzduch: changed in Gutsy, yeah
[08:57] <vzduch> nah, was there in Feisty as well.. and in every other distro I know
[08:57] <Jucato> jpatrick: kdesu is symlinked to kdesudo so it won't matter much :)
[08:57] <Jucato> vzduch: jpatrick meant kdesudo
[08:58] <jpatrick> Jucato: evil :) heh
[08:58] <Jucato> vzduch: kdesudo is different from plain kdesu, but kdesu is symlinked to kdesu so that it won't cause transition problems
[09:00] <miket_> erg?
[09:00] <chovy> this is for 64-bit?
[09:01] <jpatrick> chovy: yes, it'll do that itself
[09:01] <chovy> jpatrick: ok.
[09:01] <jpatrick> any KDE
[09:01] <jpatrick> damn
[09:01] <NickPresta> Can anyone recommend a good, all around, capture card that would work with both GNU+Linux and Windows?
[09:01] <jpatrick> any *KDE* apps anyone would like to see in Hardy?
[09:02] <chovy> jpatrick: that new ide editor for ajax
[09:02] <chovy> apendant or something?
[09:02] <NickPresta> chovy, Aptana
[09:02] <chovy> yes
[09:02] <NickPresta> and I would love to see that too, actually
[09:02] <stamen> hi, please tell me where to read for working HOWTO about installing NVIDIA driver on this new distro 7.10 because I am pissed off now and angry, on the 7.04 all was working, now all is mess
[09:02] <jpatrick> NickPresta, chovy: you got it
[09:03] <stamen> why canonical did so hard about installing video drivers, whyyy
[09:03] <chovy> stamen: i followed the "use ati" instructions :)
[09:03] <vzduch> jpatrick: which version of Audacious ships w/ Gutsy?
[09:03] <stamen> chovy: I am with nvidia
[09:03] <chovy> stamen: sorry. i tried nvidia too many times with little success. ati was no prob.
[09:03] <jpatrick> vzduch: no idea
[09:03] <NickPresta> jpatrick, it isn't specifically a KDE application but yeah, Aptana is great and right now, you can download binaries for it, but a nice repo package would be nice too. :)
[09:04] <chovy> jpatrick: how come with your file i have a ton of updates, but with mine it only tried a distro upgrade?
[09:04] <jpatrick> NickPresta: I'll see what I can do
[09:04] <jpatrick> chovy: mine's special++ ;)
[09:04] <chovy> i had fiesty and yours was gusty
[09:04] <NickPresta> vzduch, the version which comes with Gutsy is 1.3.2, the current stable version
[09:04] <jpatrick> chovy: you wanted to upgrade to gutsy? no?
[09:05] <jpatrick> NickPresta: a 63.1MB zip??
[09:05] <vzduch> NickPresta: good to know they did update it :)
[09:05] <chovy> jpatrick: yeah, is that how? i didn't know i had to modify sources.list to upgrade...figured apept would do it for me.
[09:05] <vzduch> Feisty came w/ 1.2.5 or so
[09:05] <jpatrick> chovy: it should, odd
[09:06] <stamen> so, anyone help
[09:06] <NickPresta> jpatrick, yep, the 63.1MB zip file. Unzip and run - it's nice since it comes with it's own internal updater and plugin installer too
[09:06] <jpatrick> !nvidia
[09:06] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <BEGINNER_IRC> can anyone send me the file /etc/lib/eclipse/startup.jar from Ubuntu 7.10; please
[09:07] <BEGINNER_IRC> can anyone send me the file /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar from Ubuntu 7.10; please
[09:07] <stamen> jpatrick: I am doing the same, I am not noob, with installing this drivers, but it is not working
[09:07] <NickPresta> !repeat | BEGINNER_IRC
[09:07] <ubot3> BEGINNER_IRC: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:07] <stamen> after trying to start X, its (EE) about kernel of nvidia, or API mismatch
[09:08] <stamen> or somthing like that
[09:08] <jpatrick> NickPresta: you know, that's almost the size of the kernel
[09:08] <stamen> which wasn't on faisty
[09:08] <NickPresta> jpatrick, heh. Aptana is quite an IDE :P
[09:21] <jpatrick> NickPresta: too big and hard, sorry
[09:22] <Zarin> So I just upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy and I lost sound, video, SSL libraries required for Pidgin, Adapt Manager no longer works (Keeps saying update failed but using apt-get works fine) and it wanted to delete my nVidia driver. Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[09:26] <vanush__> help, kde-window-decorator keeps on crashing
[09:26] <sub[t]rnl> vanush__: using compiz?
[09:27] <vanush__> yes sub[t]rnl
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install emerald
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> use that for your window decorations
[09:27] <vanush__> how do i change what kde should use, or is it automatic?
[09:27] <sub[t]rnl> once you install emerald, compiz will use that as default
[09:28] <vanush__> do i need to restart x?
[09:28] <sub[t]rnl> indeed
[09:28] <sub[t]rnl> be sure to use compiz --replace when starting
[09:28] <vanush__> how can i get compiz to start automatically? can i edit /etc/rc.local
[09:29] <sub[t]rnl> oh
[09:29] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, to start compiz just add a sym link in your ~/.kde/Autostart/ dir
[09:30] <sub[t]rnl> better yeat, create a file, that has --> compiz --replace
[09:30] <sub[t]rnl> then --> chmod +x file
[09:30] <rockhound> is there a way to get feisty to run on with a ICH9 board? at least the realtek sound device? ALC888 btw
[09:30] <rockhound> hi everyone first of all
[09:32] <vanush> how do i get rid of the red titlebars
[09:32] <vanush> and get back to the blue
[09:32] <vanush> in emerald.
[09:32] <sub[t]rnl> start->settings->emerald theme manager
[09:32] <sub[t]rnl> adjust the window decorations in there
[09:36] <Minnozz> Hi, my internet is acting weird. About 1/4 of the pageloads results in a 'page cannot be found' error. When I refresh (sometimes I have to do it 2~3 times) the page displays just right
[09:36] <Minnozz> Also, KMess disconnects at random. What could be wrong?
[09:37] <vanush> hi, how do I get kubuntu to stop screwing with my nameservers. every time i login i have to edit /etc/resolv.conf to get rid of the wrong nameserver (ip of my router) and type in the new one.
[09:38] <sub[t]rnl> vanush: whats in your /etc/network/interface
[09:39] <vanush> nuthin
[09:39] <vanush> oh
[09:39] <vanush> nothing
[09:39] <vanush> do you mean /etc/network/eth0?
[09:41] <sub[t]rnl> i'm trying to think what could be overwriting your /etc/rsolv.conf
[09:41] <sub[t]rnl> networkmanager should be the only one
[09:42] <sub[t]rnl> bbiab
[09:46] <mikrop> ?
[09:47] <mikrop> amsn or kopeta ?
[09:48] <vanush> are u asking for an opinion on which is better?
[09:49] <mikrop> my amsn old
[09:49] <vanush> aMSN has more features but it is way uglier unless u compile it against a newever version of tcl or something. Kopete is too bloated, I find that emesene is a good balance
[09:54] <Minnozz> What can cause 1/4th of my pageloads in FF to result in 'Unable to connect'?
[09:54] <Minnozz> When I refresh the page loads just fine
[09:57] <vanush> ditch FF
[09:57] <vanush> to isolate problem
[10:07] <engin> hi, adept manager was locked
[10:07] <engin> i just restart, but still in trouble
[10:08] <hangthedj> !fixadept
[10:08] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:08] <ubuntu> hi i am running ubuntu live 1.5 ultimate and i went to start beryl and got a blank white screen i was wondering how to update nvidida drivers i got 8500gt please help
[10:08] <engin> i liked that bot :)
[10:09] <ubuntu> ive have just come from sabayon and need help
[10:18] <KalEl> how can i change the hardware sound mixer for my system?
[10:20] <ksivaji> KalEl kmenu->system setting
[10:21] <mikes3> Why is kcontrol in main menu?
[10:21] <mikes3> ^^^^not
[10:22] <sahin_w> I think because systemsettings the default in kubuntu.
[10:22] <ardchoille> sahin_w: But that's easy to fix.
[10:22] <mikes3> sahin_w, Yes but several things are missing
[10:22] <sahin_w> arcade: Yes, I know.
[10:22] <sahin_w> mikes3: You're right.
[10:22] <ubuntu> i need a nvidia commad to update driver someone please paste will be much appreciated
[10:22] <mikes3> yes added it manually
[10:23] <KalEl> ksivaji: thanks i appreciate your help
[10:23] <mikes3> should be default
[10:23] <KalEl> have been searching for it for a long time!
[10:23] <sahin_w> mikes3: I have to say kcontrol won't be available in KDE4 anymore.
[10:23] <ardchoille> ubuntu: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[10:23] <ubuntu> ive been searching it for long
[10:24] <ubuntu> i havnt got the command it gives me server x prblem tells me to go to nvidia.com and thats just pathetci
[10:24] <sahin_w> mikes3: systemsettings will be the new default. However I use kcontrol a lot.
[10:24] <ardchoille> !nvidia | ubuntu
[10:24] <ubot3> ubuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <ubuntu> is there a command that u can paste which will do it for me like and emerge or somrthing
[10:25] <mikes3> sahin_w, I hope it has a comprehensive replacement
[10:25] <sahin_w> mikes3: I hope too.
[10:25] <sahin_w> mikes3: I've open a request for it on launchpad.
[10:26] <mikes3> Gnome takes priority ;(
[10:26] <sahin_w> mikes3: I mean the systemsettings must have the same functionality as kcontrol.
[10:26] <mikes3> yes
[10:26] <mikes3> well said
[10:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu: I'm not going to spoon feed you.. you're better off learning how to do things on your own and reading tutorials.
[10:27] <sahin_w> mikes3: Yes, the gnome is the first class desktop in ubuntu. By the way I prefer KDE and I like Ubuntu.
[10:27] <sahin_w> mikes3: So I use Kubuntu. ;-)
[10:27] <Ahmuck> hi all.  i have a cd that i have burned with k3b.  how do i check the md5sum?
[10:28] <mikes3> ardchoille, I am talking priority ;)
[10:28] <Ahmuck> don't i need a md5sum text to check against?
[10:28] <sahin_w> mikes3: But there are some hopes for KDE too. I'm going to show you some references what I saw...
[10:28] <ubuntu> i have just come from sabayon and just want the driver to see if i like beryl so i can make the change 1 spoon feed couldnt hurt please
[10:28] <ksivaji> is it possible to integrate kget with opera
[10:28] <ardchoille> !nvidia | ubuntu
[10:28] <ubot3> ubuntu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <ubuntu> please ardchoile
[10:29] <mikes3> Sidux is still my personal choice
[10:29] <ardchoille> ubuntu: if you had followed that nvidia tutorial, you would have the driver installed by now.. it's only a couple of commands.
[10:30] <sahin_w> mikes3: So there will be a developer meentin very soon.
[10:30] <sahin_w> mikes3: Here's the agenda: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/
[10:30] <mikes3> Excellent
[10:30] <mikes3> I like 7.10 but it is not totally sorted
[10:30] <Ahmuck> sorted?
[10:30] <sahin_w> mikes3: If you check it you will see some promises... inside. However we have to wait for the decisions.
[10:31] <ubuntu> i did it and it gave me system x error
[10:31] <mikes3> Ahmuck, "bugs"
[10:31] <Ahmuck> bugs?
[10:32] <mikes3> Have you had no probs :)
[10:32] <sahin_w> mikes3: Here's one which is interesting: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-hardy-catchup
[10:32] <alecasa> Ferrara??
[10:32] <sahin_w> mikes3: "Ensure Kubuntu has the same features as Ubuntu."
[10:33] <sahin_w> sahin_w: So I hope Kubuntu will catchup Ubuntu in some terms.
[10:33] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, have a question abt 7.10 release.  whyyy in k menu, and all the subsequent menus to open each entry starts with, for example "_: entries in k-menu: Kopete app name, instant messenger"  how do i fix this!?
[10:34] <mikes3> yes sahin_w  That is why pclos is tops on Distrowatch
[10:34] <mikes3> kde/stable as
[10:34] <mikes3> big update in the next few days
[10:35] <mikes3> compiz-fusion by default
[10:35] <sahin_w> zgmf-x20a: Right clock on the K-menu > Panel Menu > Configure Panel > Menus
[10:35] <sahin_w> zgmf-x20a: There you can choose your prefered way.
[10:36] <ksivaji> is it possible to integrate kget with opera ?
[10:36] <sahin_w> zgmf-x20a: Name only, Name - Description, Description only, ...
[10:36] <zgmf-x20a> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sweet!
[10:36] <zgmf-x20a> sahin_w: thanks man!!!
[10:36] <sahin_w> zgmf-x20a: No problem...
[10:36] <mikes3> sahin_w, 7.10 is good for pclos :)
[10:37] <mikes3> The irony
[10:37] <sahin_w> mikes3: Well, I have no real problem with 7.10. However I don't have experiences with pclos.
[10:38] <Ahmuck> has anybody tried booting the *.iso from fluxbuntu yet?
[10:39] <mikes3> Very impressive sahin_w  and I am pro Debian but there is no denying it is a great distro
[10:39] <sahin_w> mikes3: First I hate dolphin. Now I like it. And I saw the KDE4 version much-much better.
[10:39] <mikes3> great
[10:39] <ksivaji> !kopete
[10:39] <ubot3> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7550 kB, installed size 21956 kB
[10:39] <mikes3> konqueror is fine
[10:39] <mikes3> y dolphin?
[10:40] <Pramod> when will the Panda3D for Kubuntu 7.10 be released?
[10:41] <Pramod> and i also need skype for kubuntu 7.10
[10:41] <sahin_w> mikes3: Yes. konqueror is fine and my still favorite, but I started the use dolphin for some experience.
[10:41] <mikes3> d/load from skype
[10:41] <sahin_w> mikes3: sorry! So still my favorite.
[10:41] <vanush> what's panda3d?
[10:41] <Pramod> well there is none for the latyest version of Kubuntu
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> Pramod: you could install skype either from skype.com or from !medibuntu
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[10:41] <ubot3> Malone bug 153500 in kdelibs "Kopete crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]
[10:42] <Pramod> i was getting the same problem with kopete i downloaded the amsn lol
[10:42] <mikes3> pidgin here
[10:42] <mikes3> and amsn
[10:43] <cptnspoon> Hey all, anyone up for helping me get my nvidia card working? I've been chasing my tail for over a week since updating to Gutsy with this thing!
[10:43] <iecsam> hey guys
[10:44] <iecsam> how do we repair the mp3 function in amarok
[10:46] <Pramod> lol in my Gutsy it got it working fine and detected my nvidia card without any prob... :S
[10:46] <arash> Why isn't ubotu here?
[10:46] <iecsam> i have AMD 64 do u think its the prob
[10:47] <mikes3> ubotu broken as well :)
[10:47] <iecsam> i can play wave files
[10:47] <cptnspoon> Pramod: What nvidia card do you have?
[10:47] <iecsam> mp3 support keeps re-installing eveytime i hit play
[10:47] <arash> iecsam, hmm, do you have 7.10?
[10:48] <iecsam> yes
[10:48] <iecsam> 7.10
[10:48] <iecsam> nVidia im not sure which one
[10:48] <Pramod> i am not being able to play mp3 files on my Amarok... i have Gutsy Gibbon
[10:48] <mikes3> what card?
[10:49] <iecsam> not really sure mike
[10:50] <iecsam> its on suto detec and it works fine with WAV files
[10:51] <arash> does graphics card have anything to do with playing mp3 files????, It sounds ridiculous, but I'm no expert :p
[10:52] <iecsam> mike - how can i fix this
[10:53] <tds> arash, as far as i know, no but i'm sure could interfere with other things if it's incompatible
[10:53] <mikes3> arash, Sounds like a bug ,64 bit system/os ?
[10:53] <iecsam> arash can u watch movie files
[10:54] <Pramod> what library i need to install to play mp3 files?
[10:54] <ksivaji> systemsetting problem http://pastebin.com/f5cb63627
[10:54] <BEGINNER_IRC> has anyone installed Eclipse on Ubuntu 7.10 from package manager, because I need /usr/lib/eclipse/startup.jar (you can send it to me on Konversation)
[10:54] <iecsam> seems like everything is installed on 7.10
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> Pramod: with what? vlc? mplayer?
[10:54] <arash> iecsam: yea, but what dos that have to do with anything :p ?
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> Pramod: oh with amarok. try kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | Pramod
[10:55] <iecsam> well arash what i think is there is some bug
[10:56] <arash> iecsam: aha, I can play mp3 fine, but I have 7.04
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | iecsam
[10:56] <Pramod> i am currently downloading eclipse right now... lol
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: Pramod: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:56] <Pramod> okie
[10:57] <iecsam> ok
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> that installs some common restricted extras, one of which is amarok mp3
[10:58] <iecsam> oh i c
[10:58] <iecsam> thanks man
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> cheers! :D
[10:58] <iecsam> dude is that all i have to type
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: you can install it through adept manager too, search for that package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:00] <iecsam> ok trying
[11:00] <iecsam> cuz i did - and it seems installed
[11:00] <iecsam> but then it still says cannot play
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: then you need to close amarok then open amarok again for it to work
[11:01] <cptnspoon> Anyone able to help me access my Windows NTFS partition?
[11:01] <iecsam> it sys some media could not be loaded
[11:02] <cptnspoon> It was running fine under Feisty, no longer there under Gutsy
[11:02] <iecsam> and then installs mp3 support on its on and asks to restart amarok
[11:02] <cptnspoon> I think it TRIED to do it for me cause I do have a /windows/ folder under root but there's nothing in it
[11:02] <iecsam> when i do the process keeps repeating
[11:02] <WaltzingAlong> cptnspoon: check kmenu/system settings/advanced / disks and filesystems
[11:02] <tds> cptnspoon, ntfs3g installed? maybe try reinstalling
[11:03] <tds> cptnspoon, may have to check fstab
[11:03] <cptnspoon> WaltzingAlong: I can see the partition, under /dev/sda1
[11:04] <cptnspoon> tds: I have checked my fstab and it says it's pointing to the /windows/ folder but when I try to mount it I get...
[11:04] <cptnspoon> tds: "Failed to access '/dev/hda1': No such file or directory"
[11:04] <WaltzingAlong> cptnspoon: you can pastebin your /etc/fstab
[11:04] <WaltzingAlong> ok so you see /hda1 vs /sda1   (change the /etc/fstab to sda in place of hda)
[11:05] <iecsam> waltzingalong - there's nothin by that name is adept manager also
[11:05] <cptnspoon> WaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.ca/751380
[11:05] <cptnspoon> WaltzingAlong:  Ohh...okay, I'll give that a try, guess I missed that
[11:06] <cptnspoon> WaltzingAlong: Thanks, worked like a charm...
[11:06] <WaltzingAlong> cptnspoon: but check the file already, it is /windows (and /dev/hda1) but also /media/windows (last line)
[11:06] <WaltzingAlong> so you are mounting it in two places now
[11:06] <WaltzingAlong> maybe you want that -
[11:08] <cptnspoon> WaltzingAlong: Oh okay, which should I remove? I'm assuming the /media/windows is the new Gutsy autodetect one?
[11:08] <Pramod> how can we play .avi and .mpg movies in Linux?
[11:08] <Pramod> or even .wmv
[11:09] <WaltzingAlong> Pramod: i prefer to use mplayer and vlc; otherwise install kubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs (from http://www.medibuntu.org/ )
[11:09] <sergio_> ola
[11:10] <Umm> Hallo all
[11:10] <Pramod> ok... thanx
[11:10] <WaltzingAlong> gruesse
[11:11] <Umm> I need help if anyone can help me. I am using ati card and i want to install so i can have 3d support can anyone help me
[11:12] <WaltzingAlong> Umm: sure thing. using gutsy? try the restricted manager to install the fglrx driver
[11:12] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | Umm or check this one for using the uptodate ati/fglrx driver
[11:12] <luigi> no sound on pidgin...........
[11:14] <ardchoille> !bugs
[11:14] <ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:14] <luigi> no sound pidgin
[11:14] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[11:15] <eagles0513875> how do i remove the kubuntu logo from displaying during start up and instead displaying what is being started up
[11:15] <eagles0513875> !source o matic
[11:15] <ubot3> Factoid source o matic not found
[11:15] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[11:15] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:16] <luigi> no sound pidgin
[11:16] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Remove the word "splash" from your kernel line in menu.lst
[11:16] <eagles0513875> luigi that doesnt say much about ur problem
[11:16] <eagles0513875> thanks ard
[11:17] <luigi> i have kubuntu and i can t hears sound pidgin
[11:17] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: what directory is it in
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: during the system boot? remove 'splash' and 'quiet' from the boot parameters in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <eagles0513875> luigi: what does sound pidgin mean
[11:17] <eagles0513875> ty WaltzingAlong
[11:17] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Also remove it from the "# defoptions" so it doesn't get restored when you update the kernel
[11:17] <luigi> evry sound pidgin
[11:17] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <eagles0513875> thanks guys
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: so find defoptions= with splash and quiet, remove those two, then run sudo update-grub
[11:18] <luigi> non senti i suoni di pidgin
[11:18] <eagles0513875> !it
[11:18] <ubot3> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:18] <wiki> jjjhjkk
[11:19] <eagles0513875> luigi: solo ingles en este canale
[11:19] <eagles0513875> walts or ard there is no menu.lst in boot/grub
[11:19] <eagles0513875> im not doing duel boot
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: bentornato
[11:20] <eagles0513875> windows pissed me off once and for all yesterday so i wiped that piece of junk
[11:20] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: when i type my root pass it keeps saying permission denied
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: you need to type just your own password
[11:21] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: u mean the one i use to login
[11:21] <iecsam> WaltzingAlong is the Medibuntu package like 37MB - and will the termnal install it
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: correct
[11:22] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: There is no root password, the root account should be locked.
[11:22] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: im typing in the password and for some reason i keep getting permission denied
[11:22] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: im running feisty atm
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: you can follow the instructions for adding the medibuntu data to your sources so you can install anything from medibuntu through adept
[11:22] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: There is no root password in Feisty, the root account should be locked.
[11:22] <iecsam> ok
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: caps lock or such? :D
[11:23] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: it is locked
[11:23] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: no caps on
[11:23] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Ok, you are typing in your password? Any errors?
[11:24] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ya i am logging in no errors
[11:24] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: would i need to update any pkgs and update to the latest kernel
[11:24] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: You mean you get Permission denided when using kdesu and your login password?
[11:24] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ya
[11:25] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: i dont know whether or not it woudl make a difference if im running the 64bit version of feisty
[11:25] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I don't know anything about the 64bit version
[11:26] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: in regards to upgrading do i need to add the repositories to my list of repositories to upgrade or do i just go into adept and add the pre release etc
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: should not make a difference about logging in
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: you wish to upgrade to gutsy?
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> upgrading kubuntu? from feisty (7.04) be sure software-properties-kde is installed (sudo aptitude install software-properties-kde) then follow the upgrade instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | eagles0513875
[11:26] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: yes i am
[11:26] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I don't know, I don't upgrade, I do a fresh install
[11:26] <ardchoille> !upgrade | eagles0513875
[11:26] <ubot3> eagles0513875: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:27] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i ready that but could i also use source o matic to generate the repos and then upgrade
[11:28] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: you could do that. really all you need to do is change the 'feisty' to 'gutsy' in the sources.list then run sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:29] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong: That will leave out any apps that are new to Gutsy
[11:29] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong:  ya but according to the upgrade notes u should have all updates applied first then upgrade
[11:30] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what ard is saying is taht i should keep the feisty repos
[11:30] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: No, that is not what I'm saying
[11:31] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:31] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: right so you should also add 'feisty-proposed' then update and upgrade; make sure software-properties-kde is installed then enable prerelease updates through manage repositories in adept manager
[11:31] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: What I am saying is read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[11:31] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: afaik, it's a one button click to upgrade
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> right to upgrade feisty to gutsy it is better to follow the instructions as well as using the recommended upgrade procedure, ie using adept manager then the upgrade tool (but if that crashes, then sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade)
[11:32] <eagles0513875> kool
[11:32] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:33] <eagles0513875> windows yesterday decided to be a pain and not let my wifi work as well as my ethernet port
[11:34] <ksivaji> !emacs
[11:34] <ubot3> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[11:34] <eagles0513875> so im like f*** winblows im putting kubuntu on here and not to mention i can use my 64bit processor
[11:34] <eagles0513875> !java
[11:34] <ubot3> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:35] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:35] <eagles0513875> what java ide's r available for kubuntu
[11:36] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: apt-cache search java | more
[11:38] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: in the multivers repo is there also the java6 jre
[11:39] <SpoZen> a noob question about the terminal, how do i cd into a directory with ' in the name like example'.example?
[11:40] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Looks like there is  sun-java5-jre and sun-java6-jre in multiverse
[11:41] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: reason i ask is the class im taking we r learning about java6
[11:41] <ardchoille> SpoZen: cd "filder'"
[11:41] <SpoZen> ok thanks
[11:41] <ardchoille> SpoZen: Or type the first few letters of the folder name and hit the tab key
[11:42] <eagles0513875> im getting really pissed off right now lol
[11:43] <eagles0513875> can anyone explain to me why the time for the central european time zone is set to 2 hrs ahead when its actually one hour
[11:43] <Cicci0> hi
[11:43] <Cicci0> ok I did an upgrade to kubuntu 7.10
[11:43] <eagles0513875> how did it go
[11:44] <Cicci0> but now I've got a lot of icons missing... like icon themes is not complete
[11:44] <Cicci0> *theme
[11:44] <eagles0513875> humm im not much help
[11:44] <Cicci0> and this is for quite all icon themes I found...
[11:44] <eagles0513875> i just installed feisty and i am goign to do an upgrade to gutsy
[11:47] <vzduch> eagles0513875: why then didn't you install Gutsy in the 1st place?
[11:48] <eagles0513875> vzduch: cuz i didnt have any internet when i had winblows on here my wifi and wired connections craped out on me
[11:48] <vzduch> eagles0513875: CEST == UTC+2, tomorrow morning from 3 a.m. it'll be UTC+1 again (CET)
[11:48] <eagles0513875> vzduch: but the time right now here is 148
[11:49] <vzduch> then adjust it :P
[11:49] <vzduch> right-click the clock, go to 'Adjust Date and Time' and adjust it
[11:49] <eagles0513875> vzduch: i did lol but its a head ache when i load the live cd it has the right time but once i insall kubuntu and then login its an hr ahead lol
[11:50] <vzduch> well, it's a one-time corrective action, imho nothing to worry about
[11:50] <vzduch> a minor glitch
[11:52] <ralph> test
[11:52] <vzduch> failed :P
[11:52] <ralph> ;)
[11:53] <SpoZen> okay a question aobut samba how do i get write permissons on all folders in one folder? example i have a folder with 3 moore folders in how can i get write permissons on them?
[11:53] <SpoZen> without doing chmod 777 on every folder
[11:54] <eagles0513875> can u use ntfs-3g with samba
[11:54] <SpoZen> yeah i use ntfs 3g with samba
[11:54] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: is it enabled on teh drive that u want rw acess to
[11:56] <SpoZen> yeah i have write acess on every directory i do chmod 777 on but i dont want to do chmod 77 on everything i download
[11:56] <SpoZen> chmod 777 means full acess i think am i right?
[11:56] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: ntfs-3g should give u rw access to where u dont have to do that
[11:56] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: im not sure
[11:57] <SpoZen> the thing is i dont use it on a ntfs-3g disk
[11:57] <SpoZen> its an ext3 disk
[11:57] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: i dont get it
[11:58] <SpoZen> ntfs 3g is used when your disk is formatted with the filessytem called ntfs wich windows uses
[12:00] <eagles0513875> i know but r u using samba to access a ntfs drive
[12:00] <eagles0513875> or a linux fs
[12:01] <SpoZen> its a linux fs
[12:07] <Stilo> anybody know how i can open two windows of adobe acroread?
[12:09] <TameLion> IF you're using kpdf, you can just open the app again
[12:09] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: what were those things i had to remove from grub so that kubuntu doesnt display
[12:09] <TameLion> If you're not; why not? :P
[12:10] <enoj_> Does anyone know how I can get TrueCrypt working with Kubuntu 7.10?
[12:10] <Stilo> i need acroread because the presentation function of kpdf doesnt work with my compiz fusion
[12:10] <eagles0513875> anyone know what i have to remove from menu.lst so i can just see what things are being started up
[12:10] <SpoZen> enoj_: isnt it in the repos?
[12:11] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: r u trying to access another linux machine
[12:11] <SpoZen> otherwise u can just use kgpg
[12:11] <enoj_> SpoZen: E: Package truecrypt has no installation candidate .. when trying apt-get install truecrypt .. I installed the .deb from their site, but then I got: "Failed to load TrueCrypt kernel module"
[12:11] <SpoZen> yeah
[12:11] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: the word "splash"
[12:11] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: then u need to use nfs samba is for use on windows machines
[12:12] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: and quiet
[12:12] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: then what was that 2nd thing so with new kernel releases it doesnt come up again
[12:12] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Removing "quiet" will output a LOT of info.. may scroll too fast to make it worthwhile.
[12:12] <jordi_> Hi, I've a question. How do I do to have checkgmail running on the start of my session?
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: sudo update-grub
[12:13] <WaltzingAlong> !autostart | jordi_
[12:13] <ubot3> jordi_: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:13] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: thats all i have to do
[12:13] <jordi_> I run Kubuntu 6.06.1 and i've benn looking aroun System Settings but no luck
[12:14] <jordi_> ok ubot3, i'll try
[12:14] <eagles0513875> jordi_: ubotu is a bot btw
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: open /boot/grub/menu.lst           find # defoptions=     remove pieces you do not want (like splash or quiet) or add things you do want, save the file, then sudo update-grub          for those default options to be updated to the boot lines, yes
[12:14] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ty
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> !info kcontrol-autostart (dapper)
[12:14] <ubot3> kcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 46 kB, installed size 280 kB
[12:15] <SpoZen> well i installed samba and confiured it but i cant get write acess: like this i have wirte acess to one directory but inside that directory i out downloaded files in directorys but when i want to deletes these from a windows machine i cant
[12:15] <eagles0513875> SpoZen: samba for use to access another linux machine
[12:15] <enoj_> SpoZen: can you create an encrypted device using kgpg? I just want a file of like 100mb that's encrypted with password so I can store some private information
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> !smb
[12:15] <ubot3> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:15] <eagles0513875> !nfs
[12:15] <ubot3> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:16] <SpoZen> enoj:: u can always try it its like 1mb install
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> enoj_: I know you can with dolphin+kgpg
[12:18] <SpoZen> yeah dolping is installled by default in gutsy
[12:18] <SpoZen> dolphin
[12:18] <pramod> i want to change the default boot system in GRUB... what should i do?
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> pramod: you mean default option?
[12:20] <pramod> yeah
[12:20] <pramod> the default option...
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> pramod: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst...near the top there is a "default option"
[12:20] <ardchoille> Kubuntu already uses grub, doesn't it?
[12:20] <ardchoille> nvm
[12:21] <pramod> yeah...
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: confused? ;-)
[12:21] <ardchoille> It seems
[12:21] <pramod> but the default boot is on Kubuntu... and i want to change it to Windows...
[12:22] <pramod> i think it has something to do with menu.lst file...
[12:22] <pramod> set default saved or something like that
[12:23] <pramod> that is it will highlight Windows by default...
[12:23] <pramod> can anyone plz help me?
[12:24] <kreib> in menu.lst you set which system to boot default
[12:24] <pramod> yeah this is what i want
[12:25] <kreib> then whats the problem?
[12:25] <pramod> i want windows to boot as default...
[12:25] <pramod> what should i do?
[12:25] <kreib> then you add a record to boot windows in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> pramod: if you have the option savedefault then grub will mark as default whichever was booted last
[12:26] <pramod> okie...
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> otherwire just change which one is marked as default
[12:27] <pramod> well this feature is activated by changeing a value 0 to saved or something like that ... i do not really remember...
[12:28] <WaltzingAlong> pramod: right it should be    default          0                 where the number (0 in this case) refers to the entry which is to be default; so which is windows in the list?
[12:28] <pramod> okie lemme check
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> 1envy
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[12:30] <pramod> i have changed the value 0 to saved...
[12:30] <ubot3> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:30] <pramod> i will restart my pc latr...
[12:30] <pramod> till then thanx
[12:30] <pramod> c ya all latr
[12:30] <PieterK> hi everyone
[12:31] <PieterK> i got a few problems with my Kubuntu. Anyone here has some time to spare to help me out?
[12:32] <pag> !ask | PieterK
[12:32] <ubot3> PieterK: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:32] <HanzZ> hi i was trying to update to gutsy, but it fails on one package, so i removed the package, but now if I run do-release-upgrade, it tells me, that No new release found. how can i 'fix' it?
[12:32] <PieterK> ok cool
[12:32] <maverick_> What the hell is with Gutsy, i can't see wireless connection in knetwork , only wiered connection ?!!
[12:33] <pag> HanzZ, try " sudo dpkg --configure -a " in Konsole
[12:33] <maverick_> but my eth1 (wireless) i can see it and configure it in console
[12:33] <maverick_> any ideas
[12:33] <maverick_> ?!!!!!
[12:34] <PieterK> my 1st problem: my pc won't power down properly. It gives me the bar which goes from left to right and then it just stops.
[12:34] <HanzZ> pag: it didn't print anything
[12:34] <PieterK> It seems to turn off something but i don't know what the hell it is
[12:34] <PieterK> or what it does
[12:35] <pag> PieterK, iirc adding " force-acpi " (or something similiar) to the kernel boot line might solve that - not sure though
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> HanzZ: follow the upgrade instructions on kubuntu.org
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> HanzZ: if the upgrade tool fails at one point, maybe through sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:35] <PieterK> pag: what is the "boot line"? sorry a linux noob here :s
[12:36] <HanzZ> ok :)
[12:36] <HayaBusa> good morning . is there any graphic program that has Crop function ?
[12:36] <WaltzingAlong> HayaBusa: gimp
[12:37] <HayaBusa> thanks.
[12:37] <WaltzingAlong> !info krita
[12:37] <WaltzingAlong> !info gimp
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> PieterK: on thegrub boot menu, select the kernel you want to boot and hit "e"
[12:37] <ubot3> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 3504 kB, installed size 11392 kB
[12:37] <ubot3> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 4560 kB, installed size 12260 kB
[12:38] <PieterK> nosrednaekim, ok thanks and then what? i can add this line "force acpi"?
[12:38] <PieterK> i guess i'll try that then
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> PieterK: its "force-acpi"
[12:38] <PieterK> ok thanks for the help!
[12:39] <PieterK> i'll be back later for my next question
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> ok
[12:39] <PieterK> see you all! bye
[12:40] <waterpie> hi all
[12:40] <HanzZ> well :) it works after reboot :) thanks for your help
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> hi waterpie
[12:42] <ardchoille> water pie.. is that anything like "soup sandwich"?
[12:42]  * ardchoille ducks
[12:43] <waterpie> since upgrading to 7.10, i have this problem: when i start the comp, a kio_thumbnail starts automatically, that grows quickly to >70% cpu and memory. I have to kill it. Usually it restarts a couple of time, and I kill it. Then it stops, till next reboot. Any ideas?
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> waterpie: do you have a dolphin window open? or large pictures  on your desktop?
[12:43] <waterpie> ardchoille: I don't know anything about "soup sandwich".  b) i have 3 ~400kb pics on the desktop, 1 ~200MB video. before 7.10, i didn't have this problem
[12:45] <ricardobrown> somebody has a ideea why i get this ?
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> konq or dolphin should not matter
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> waterpie: mightwant to turn off previews of things on desktop
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> ricardobrown: you don'thave permissions to mount that.
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> ricardobrown: ask google
[12:47] <Danmer> why dolphin instead of konqueror? =/
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> wish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin)
[12:47] <ricardobrown> nosrednaekim: but it's my comp how can i get access ?
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> Danmer: thought to be easier for file management than konqueror for newbies (apparently dolphin in kde4 is much better)
[12:48] <ricardobrown> i use admin mode ?
[12:48] <WaltzingAlong> ricardobrown: perform a search for exactly that with google, then follow the directions about fixing it
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[12:48] <ubot3> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:48] <Danmer> WaltzingAlong: can i open directory or archive in tab in dolphin?
[12:48] <WaltzingAlong> no tabs in dolphin as far as i know
[12:49] <Danmer> that sucks..
[12:49] <waterpie> i moved the video to a folder. it didn't show a preview on the desktop, although it shows a preview in the tooltip, and now in the folder. i'll see if this was the problem. it is a .mp4 from video.google. But I didn't have the problem pre 7.10. Maybe there is a bug somewhere in kio_thumbnail now(?)
[12:49] <KalEl> is there a remote desktop application installed with kde, which i can view in windows using vnc viewer?
[12:50] <Danmer> i don't find konqueror hard to use...
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> waterpie: always possible ;)
[12:51] <wilson_> KalEl: System Sesstings > Sharing
[12:51] <waterpie> i think konqueror is much better than dolphin. I don't want to loose half of my screen real estate in "actions" and "places" that I don't want all the time. and konq is not difficult.
[12:52] <KalEl> wilson_: thanks
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> KalEl: yes. krfb ?
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> wish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin) | waterpie
[12:53] <waterpie> now the kio_thumbnail is: 92% cpu 52% mem, with mem climbing ~1% every 1-2 secs. I have 1 gig
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> waterpie: yeah maybe it is getting stuck on some file
[12:54] <waterpie> another one bites the kill -9 :-)
[12:54] <KalEl> everytime i connect with vnc, it asks me if on the server if i want to allow the connection. can i set the default to be yes?
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> waterpie: search launchpad for it?
[12:54] <KalEl> please never mind i got it :)
[12:54] <waterpie> WaltzingAlong: i have already changed from dolphin to konq :-)
[12:55] <cptnspoon> hi
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> hi cptnspoon
[12:56] <hydester> hi.  anybody know why firefox on Windows XP on the same laptop dual booting to kubuntu is noticably slower?  i actually notice this at work on an internal network with Fedora vs Windows.  same versions of Firefox on all.  maybe it is firefox, but maybe is a Linux setting?
[12:56] <WaltzingAlong> KalEl: yes; also you may look into x11vnc or another vncserver or freenx
[12:56] <WaltzingAlong> hydester: my first guess has to do with your router's/gateway's dns service; try bypassing it
[12:57] <cptnspoon> nosrednaekim: ive hijacked my boyfriends computer sorry
[12:57] <hydester> at home both use the <IP_ADDRESS> gateway
[12:57] <maverick_> knetwork manager won't allow me to setup wireless connection ?!!!!!
[12:57] <maverick_> any ideas
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> cptnspoon: ok..........
[12:57] <maverick_> though i can set it up from the console
[12:57] <hydester> at work i don't use DNS on linux, just a host file
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: what does it do..
[12:58] <ardchoille> hydester: I'd bet it's that POS operating system wannabe that is slow, not firefox.
[12:58] <darth_chatri> i'm trying to get the hang of knetworkmanager
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> ok...here's a question.anyone know of a tutorial to put Linux on an mp3 player.... not BOOTABLE, but like LiveCD
[12:58] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: just wires network , and i can see the eth1 interface enabled when i go to manual configuration in knetwork
[12:58] <darth_chatri> i did a static ip configuration in 'manual configuration'
[12:58] <darth_chatri> and now, i dont get the functionality i was getting earlier
[12:58] <maverick_> nosrednaekim:sis u try SLAX
[12:58] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Not bootable? You mean just data storage?
[12:59] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: DID you try SLAX
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah... like a persistant liveCD
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: I didn't try installing it, no, i'm mostly worried about killing my Mp3 players MBR
[12:59] <darth_chatri> now it doenst auto configure wireless networks like it used to. the tooltip says 'manual configuration'
[13:00] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: well, i guess u can reset ur mp3 player if it got messed up
[13:00] <WaltzingAlong> darth_chatri: remove any eth lines from /etc/network/interfaces then knm can work again
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: you can't see your wireless in knetworkmanager but you can in iwconfig?
[13:00] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: yeah
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: thats an idea ;) I just don't know how to reset it..
[13:00] <waterpie> another problem:
[13:00] <darth_chatri> WaltzingAlong: the manual configuration put them in?
[13:00] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: do a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> darth_chatri: i suppose so
[13:01] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: done
[13:01] <waterpie> now firefox doesn't care about -ProfileManager. It asks the first time, but after that, it doesn't ask. I can't have >1 profiles active at a time, as before. Any ideas?
[13:01] <nosrednaekim> anything different?
[13:02] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: now it says "battery has been removed" and am now working on the AC directly :D
[13:02] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: no , still the same
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: yeah... powermanager will say that... don't worry
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: huh....
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: IDK... I have knetworkmanager ;)
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> *hate
[13:02] <slow-motion> bye
[13:03] <maverick_> nosrednaekim:it was working while ago
[13:04] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: now it just doesn't, even afte restart
[13:04] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: huh.... do you have your wireless interface listed in /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:05] <maverick_> u mean this line "iface eth1 inet dhcp" ???
[13:05] <hydester> it is Windows XP that is fast with Firefox, and Kubuntu/Fedora are both slow with it.
[13:06] <wilson_> i dunno, i just use konqueror now
[13:06] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: yeah...erase that.
[13:06] <Lynoure> commenting is better
[13:06] <Kobol> Does anyone happen to administer a MySQL database?
[13:06] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[13:06] <Lynoure> that way recovery is easier, in case of foobar
[13:07] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Oh hey! :) (I spoke to you about WoW via WINE a little while ago.)
[13:07] <darth_chatri> i started NetworkManager again :P
[13:07] <Lynoure> Kobol: just ask, unless you are taking a poll :)
[13:07] <WaltzingAlong> greetings. ever get that working?
[13:07] <vzduch> does anyone happen to run VirtualBox?
[13:07] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: then ?
[13:07] <darth_chatri> what is the best way then to set a static n/w config without disrupting network manager?
[13:07] <wilson_> vzdutch: i've used it a bit
[13:07] <maverick_> yaaaaaaaaay
[13:07] <WaltzingAlong> through networkmanager ?
[13:07] <maverick_> it worked
[13:08] <maverick_> :d
[13:08] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Indeed I did. It runs through Wine, and it's only slightly buggy, just as you said.
[13:08] <vzduch> wilson_: define 'a bit'
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: reboot
[13:08] <wilson_> well i use kvm more
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> Kobol: some of the interface and video settings can be tweaked for a better experience. search google there are plenty of guides for it
[13:08] <darth_chatri> WaltzingAlong: can i do it through knetworkmanager?
[13:08] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: thnx it showed up now the wireless networks
[13:08] <wilson_> the other day I gave it a go though, seemed ok
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: NP
[13:08] <vzduch> wilson_: how was the sound? (if you tried it)
[13:08] <chovy> i restarted and now i can't login
[13:09] <chovy> any ideas? It boots, but the login manager is blank
[13:09] <ardchoille> Hmm.. seems the kopete crash on msn connect bug was fixed.. nice :)
[13:09] <Kobol> Lynoure, WaltzingAlong: I was just wondering if anyone ever encountered a problem using the Linux version of MySQL Admin to connect to a MySQL database on a Windows server. I can't login to mine, I keep getting an error, even when I know the login information is correct.
[13:09] <TameLion_> Is anyone else using Edmax USB Wireless (Ralink 148f:2573) under Gutsy?
[13:09] <wilson_> ahh, didnt try sound, but i assume it would be ok
[13:09] <darth_chatri> WaltzingAlong: how do i do it through NetworkManager? manpage doesnt give much info
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> Kobol: it may be configured to accept only localhost connections
[13:10] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Well I found one, and it works a lot better than when I first tried it :) Oh, and it's not configured only to accept localhost, checked that.
[13:10] <Lynoure> Kobol: oh, I don't run MySQL on Windows servers at all...
[13:10] <wilson_> in kvm u can emulate the es1370 soundcard or the sb16, works fine
[13:10] <vzduch> well, here it's a bit choppy.. getting hiccups in regular intervals (roughly 1 sec), same interval as graphics (e.g. the rolling text in the Audacious 'display') hangs for a fraction of a second
[13:10] <Kobol> Lynoure: Well, believe me: It's not my choice :P Lol I only WORK for the folks who own the server, don't own it myself or it'd all be Linux.
[13:11] <wilson_> what kind of pc do you have ?
[13:11] <Lynoure> Kobol: What do the logs say at windows end?
[13:11] <WaltzingAlong> Kobol: ms windows firewall closing the port?
[13:12] <Kobol> Lynoure: That, I have no idea...Because I can't check them >.> Well, I may be able to, I'll have to look.
[13:12] <vzduch> Athlon XP 2400+ (2000 MHz), GF FX5900 w/ 128 MB, 1 GB SDRAM, SB Live! Value and ES1371
[13:12] <Kobol> WaltzingAlong: Well...why would it run fine on Windows through NaviCat and not here?  If so, tell them it won't get done if you don't get the access to the logs.
[13:14] <vzduch> only the sound of the virtual box is hanging
[13:14] <vzduch> no problem w/ the host
[13:14] <wilson_> is this a windows host ?
[13:14] <Kobol> Lynoure: Well, not really...I have root access to the database, but the logs are on the box itself.
[13:14] <vzduch> host: Fedora 7 (I know, wrong channel here, but no one's responding there ;)), guest: WinXP
[13:15] <Kobol> Lynoure: And certainly not a consultant since I do bloody everything lol
[13:15] <wilson_> i dunno man, could be alot of things
[13:15] <Lynoure> Kobol: oh. Ironically better access is harder to get for long term work (world is strange)
[13:16] <chovy> help
[13:17] <wilson_> might want to try it with qemu
[13:17] <Kobol> Lynoure: Indeed. Well, at least I was able to say "Root access, or do it yourself." considering I volunteer (I'm not getting paid for my work, mind you.) so they were happy to have me...But I can only work on it in Windows which isn't fun, because I do most everything from here.
[13:17] <wilson_> qemu +kqemu
[13:18] <TameLion_> Is anyone else using Edimax USB Wireless (Ralink 148f:2573) under Gutsy?
[13:20] <Lynoure> Kobol: If you seem to be able to connect the database port, but the login just does not work, it's quite hard to troubleshoot without the logs or access to the server process. But you could tcpdump the traffic to see what's going on, but I don't think it will tell much.
[13:21] <Lynoure> Kobol: tell them to syslog you the mysql log :)
[13:21] <Lynoure> Kobol: that ought to keep your hands somewhat windows-free :)
[13:21] <vzduch> KVM seems to be quite new
[13:22] <Kobol> Lynoure: Well thanks, I'll do that, hopefully I can see the problem and fix it. This has just been such a hassle.
[13:22] <PieterK> Hi everyone!
[13:22] <Lynoure> Kobol: on the upside, at least they are running MySQL, and not something more annoying.
[13:23] <PieterK> question 2: I have a usb stick for wireless lan. It's a Linksys WUSB54Gv4 but i can't get it to work. I tried Ndiswrapper but i'm not sure if kubuntu installed it right or at all. Is there an other program i can use?
[13:23] <wilson_> is it new, it's not as polished as virtualbox
[13:23] <wilson_> has worse I/O
[13:24] <wilson_> but I prefer it because you dont have that bulky GUI
[13:24] <wilson_> and i like testing stuff out
[13:24] <KalEl> can i disable showing the windows in the taskbar for a desktop where they do not exist?
[13:24] <vzduch> imho VMware's gui is even bulkier
[13:25] <Kobol> Lynoure: Indeed.
[13:25] <wilson_> i gave the ose version of virtualbox a go the other day, compiled from source
[13:26] <Kobol> Lynoure: I'm off to real work :P lol thanks for your help :) Ta!
[13:26] <vzduch> as far as I see from the manual it's entirely possible to run it from cmdline
[13:26] <wilson_> seemed solid and fast, just the gui was ugly man, and the host networking didn't work, but that could have been because i had a kernel that was too new
[13:27] <ChaosMachine> I cant use apt-get because its locked, how can I unlock it?
[13:27] <vzduch> here host networking works like a charm w/ default 'NAT' setting
[13:27] <Jucato> !aptfix | ChaosMachine
[13:27] <ubot3> ChaosMachine: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:27] <wilson_> yeah, that's kinda useless to me though
[13:27] <PieterK> Question 2: I have a usb stick for wireless lan. It's a Linksys WUSB54Gv4 but i can't get it to work. I tried Ndiswrapper but i'm not sure if kubuntu installed it right or at all. Is there an other program i can use? Anyone is able to help me with this problem?
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | PieterK : your card is in the list if i recall correctly, follow the guide
[13:29] <ubot3> PieterK : your card is in the list if i recall correctly, follow the guide: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:30] <PieterK> does this also apply to kubuntu?
[13:30] <Moo-> Blah, I upgraded to Gutsy and now kopete won't connect to msn
[13:30] <arcade> Hmm, Got a problem after upgrading to 7.10 - glx was turned off.
[13:30] <arcade> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[13:30] <arcade> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | arcade follow the guide
[13:31] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: huh?
[13:31] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: I'm not asking about compiz, I'm asking about glx.
[13:31] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: glxgears gives that error.
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> arcade: are you using nvidia ?   sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[13:32] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: ah, i'll try
[13:32] <arcade> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
[13:32] <arcade> .. that was probably what was missing. :)
[13:33] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: Still the same error, after reloading X.
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> arcade: pastebin both the conf and log /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:37] <waterpie> bye all
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> a dopo
[13:38] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: Oh, that's where the log is. :)
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit | Moo- : check here
[13:38] <ubot3> Malone bug 153500 in kdelibs "Kopete crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <arcade> dlopen: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000043gl
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: That's the relevant part of the log, I guess, and : (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> !ops | trh
[13:38] <trh> pidarasi
[13:38] <ubot3> trh: Help!   But how to do that under Ubuntu? :)
[13:43] <sadoff> hi
[13:43] <OrionDude> quick Q: kubuntu is like a "theme" for ubuntu ?
[13:43] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: Okay, error found.
[13:43] <Jucato> !kubuntu | OrionDude
[13:43] <ubot3> OrionDude: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[13:44] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: I seem to have installed the nvidia driver from nvidia in 7.04 manually, and forgotten about it.   /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 -> libGLcore.so.100.14.11 on my system.  That one lacks a symbol and should probably be corrected to /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9639
[13:44] <arcade> .. which was installed with 7.10
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> OrionDude: no. makes more sense for me to think of them as ubuntuG, ubuntuK, ubuntuX
[13:45] <hydrogen> that sounds stupid.
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> arcade: i see. so now installing through restricted manager to grab the gutsy one?
[13:45] <hydrogen> "I use ubuntug"
[13:45] <hydrogen> "you use what?"
[13:45] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: Nono, it's installed, but the symlink is pointing to the old one. :P
[13:45] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: So I just need to update the symlink
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> all ubuntu but with different front ends and i find it is easier for newcomers to understand
[13:45] <Jucato> hydrogen: ubunt-ugh
[13:45] <hydrogen> right
[13:46] <hydrogen> it still sounds stupider
[13:46] <WaltzingAlong> so be it
[13:46] <Tm_T> hydrogen: wow, youre harsh
[13:46] <hydrogen> koobuntoo vs. ubuntuk
[13:46] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: if different "frontends" so then the letters should be at the front right? :)
[13:46] <hydrogen> one flows, the other sounds like your swallowing a bear
[13:46] <WaltzingAlong> sure but it changes the name more
[13:46] <hydrogen> now thats a good analogy!
[13:46] <WaltzingAlong> ubunu kay
[13:46] <WaltzingAlong> or ubuntu with gnome, ubuntu with kde, ubuntu with xfce
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> so all can be referred to as ubuntu
[13:47] <hydrogen> thanks!
[13:47] <Jucato> ...
[13:47] <hydrogen> anyways
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> or the faq for kubuntu in the topic points to a faq for ubuntu
[13:47] <hydrogen> I need to get going
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> *but i am using kubuntu* yes but it is ubuntu
[13:47] <hydrogen> how about just calling all three ubuntu
[13:47] <hydrogen> and being done with it.
[13:47] <Jucato> "I'm using Foresight", yet but it is ubuntu....
[13:48] <hydrogen> "I'm using cocaine', yes, but it is ubuntu!
[13:48] <sadoff> hi can someone help me? I have a problems with my mp3 player
[13:48] <hydrogen> jucato can.
[13:48]  * hydrogen runs away
[13:48] <hydrogen> back alter!
[13:48] <Jucato> sadoff: what problem?
[13:48]  * Danmer wonders if kubuntu will be satisfactory replacement of gentoo for him...
[13:49] <Jucato> Danmer: depends on what your needs/wants are
[13:49] <Jucato> different distros for different needs, people, and preferences :D
[13:50] <Jucato> sadoff: please keep the questions in here. thanks
[13:50] <ardchoille> Danmer: I agree. It's always good to run a distro for a few weeks and see if it will be good for the user.
[13:51] <arcade> WaltzingAlong: Thanks for the pointer to the logfile.  :-)  Updated a couple of more symlinks, and now it works
[13:51] <OrionDude> i am looking for a pop3 mail server for my ubuntu ... was told to get courier .. but i cannot find it anywhere .. anyone got directions for me ?
[13:51] <sadoff> Jucato  I cant connect it correctly When i write on it something it cannot plays when i disconnect it
[13:51] <Jucato> anyone else available, please ^^^^
[13:51]  * Jucato is going away
[13:51] <sadoff> Jucato and if i connet it once again there is nothing on it but spase is used whith something
[13:52] <sadoff> someone can help me whith that??
[13:53] <sadoff> maybe someone knows where i can find an answer??
[13:55] <sadoff> anyone alive??
[13:55]  * OrionDude died
[13:55] <arash> sadoff, oh me, me! I'm alive!
[13:55] <sadoff> did you read what i wrote/?
[13:57] <arash> sadoff, no the first message i saw since joining this channel was "anyone alive??"
[13:57] <sadoff> *)
[13:57] <spykedtomato> hey all
[13:57] <eagles0513875> sup
[13:57] <spykedtomato> how can I get the clock to stop showing me what timezone i'm in?
[13:58] <spykedtomato> i KNOW where I am... lol
[13:58] <ubuntu> good morning, are there any gotchas to installing gibbon on a vista machine to get dual booting to work?
[13:58] <arash> spykedtomato - looooooool ,tried setting options by rightclicking, that should work, Im not sure though
[13:58] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[13:58] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[13:59] <arash> ubuntu , 'gotchas' ?
[13:59] <sadoff>  I cant connect it correctly When i write on it something it cannot plays when i disconnect it it is empty but space is used whith something
[13:59] <spykedtomato> arash: been there done that - i can't find out where in the settings its listed....
[13:59] <ubuntu> arash: any problems or does it generally just work?
[13:59] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: i heard u have to install the other os u wanna duel boot with then install vista
[13:59] <arash> ubuntu: Well, you must have Windows installed first
[13:59] <arash> ubuntu: well not must, but elseway it'll be trouble witht he loader
[13:59] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: tried installing linux after vista ended up with problems
[13:59] <ubuntu> arash: it's a dell box that came with vista home pre-installed
[14:00] <arash> eagles05123875 , oh, am I wrong??? :(
[14:00] <Jucato> !grub
[14:00] <ubot3> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:00] <jari> hey
[14:00] <eagles0513875> Jucato: i just learned something new
[14:00] <Jucato> eagles0513875: dunno wrt to vista, but the general advice is other OS first, Kubuntu after
[14:01] <eagles0513875> Jucato: how is it though when i did it the other way round i actually ended up with problems with vista
[14:01] <arash> ubuntu: Yea, i have one as well, maybe not dell :p. Well, as I said, no problem will be in case you installed Vista first (or is installed
[14:01] <ubuntu> arash: THANKS!
[14:01] <sadoff> have anyone experience whith formating mp3 players?
[14:01] <Jucato> sadoff: have you installed Kubuntu Restricted Extras (kubuntu-restricted-extras)
[14:01] <arash> ubuntu: one question, how are the disk(s) partitioned, this is important
[14:02] <sadoff> what is it?
[14:02] <ubuntu> arash: one partitition... i was going to use the vista tool to repartition
[14:02] <sadoff> Jucato?
[14:02] <maverick__> guys, how to uninstall a package that's been compiled from source???
[14:02] <Jucato> sadoff: if will install the codecs for MP3, Java, and Flash
[14:02] <arash> ubuntu: thumbs up, remember that you also need a swap partition that is at least bigger than your ram size
[14:02] <sadoff> no ididnt explain you well
[14:02] <Jucato> maverick__: hopefully you haven't deleted the directory where you ran "make" and "make install". go to that directory and run "make uninstall" (or "sudo make uninstall")
[14:03] <arash> ubuntu: but that can be done when installing from Live-CD
[14:03] <ubuntu> arash: thanks once again
[14:03] <Jucato> sadoff: probably. ok I'm gone. ask others
[14:03] <ubuntu> arash: i'm on the live CD right now... about to pull the trigger
[14:03] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[14:03] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:03] <sadoff> flash player - usb player
[14:03] <maverick__> Jucato: i didn't yet it doesn't uninstall it
[14:03] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: u getting rid of windows all together
[14:03] <arash> ubuntu: yea, I recommend decreasing size of partition form Windows
[14:03] <OrionDude> i am looking for a pop3 mail server for my ubuntu ... was told to get courier .. but i cannot find it anywhere .. anyone got directions for me ?
[14:03] <maverick__> Jucato: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[14:03] <ubuntu> eagles0513875: no, keeping vista
[14:04] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: ahhh ok
[14:04] <ubuntu> eagles0513875: my other machines are kubuntu only
[14:04] <Jucato> maverick__: are you in the directory where you ran make? (the build or source directory)?
[14:04] <Jucato> er.. /me is gone
[14:04] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: was goign to say if u were goign to use only linux y not get a dell linux box that has kubuntu installed on it already
[14:04] <sadoff> need instruction how to format usb flash player
[14:05] <ubuntu> eagles0513875: technically speaking it's not my machine :-) but she has agreed to dual booting so I can help with support issues
[14:05] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: she??
[14:05] <sadoff> i cant do it 2 days
[14:05] <maverick__> Jucato: yeah
[14:05] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: is it a work machine
[14:05] <ubuntu> eagles0513875: wife's machine
[14:06] <eagles0513875> anyone know what could be causing sig 11 in kopete
[14:06] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: kool
[14:06] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: i hate winblows
[14:06] <Moo-> Could someone tell me what is udevd and why it's taking 60% of cpu
[14:06] <ubuntu> eagles0513875: ditto but it's not entirely my decision
[14:06] <ubuntu> anyway, i'm out... thanks guys
[14:06] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: good luck
[14:06] <arash> ubuntu: well, try both alternatices (vista and Kubuntu), but remember that you got a vista already configured when you bought, so it has already some things fixed
[14:07] <eagles0513875> arash where is the source repo list
[14:07] <sadoff>  need instruction how to format usb flash player!!!
[14:07] <eagles0513875> if im doing an upgrade from feisty to gutsy andi add teh gutsy repos do i delete the feisty ones
[14:07] <arash> eagles0513875: hmm, Im no expert in these things :p, don't you mean
[14:07] <jari> hey, can some one help me with recording in KRec? I try to use microphone
[14:08] <sadoff> have someone any ideas??
[14:08] <Danmer> sadoff: what fs is there?
[14:08] <contrast83> eagles0513875: /etc/apt
[14:08] <eagles0513875> contrast83: try
[14:08] <nvivo> Hi... Can anyone please tell me how can I set an environment variable for my user?
[14:08] <eagles0513875> contrast83: ty*
[14:08] <contrast83> nrp
[14:08] <contrast83> :-)
[14:08] <sadoff> whatdo umean??
[14:08] <eagles0513875> contrast83: lil rusty been a while since i touched kubuntu
[14:08] <eagles0513875> sadoff: file system
[14:08] <nvivo> I need to set WINEPREFIX to something else.. tried to export on .bash_profile, on .profile.. with no luck
[14:08] <sadoff> fat 16
[14:09] <contrast83> eagles0513875: what other distro did you use?
[14:09] <arash> eagles0513875: are you supposed to do that manually???, hmm well sounds strange, i've not migrated yet though
[14:09] <Danmer> sadoff: for example my powerman xl-850 has fat
[14:09] <Danmer> fat32
[14:09] <eagles0513875> contrast83: winblows but i had an interesting problem develop yesterday no wifi or ethernet connection
[14:09] <eagles0513875> arash: u can if u dont want to have to stay downloading the iso and all that
[14:09] <eagles0513875> arash take a look at this
[14:10] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[14:10] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:10] <eagles0513875> arash: that site generates the code to access the repos
[14:10] <eagles0513875> even for feisty there are some additional repos
[14:10] <nvivo> nobody?
[14:10] <sadoff> i  checked to use fat 16 vfat and fat 32
[14:11] <sadoff> nothing works
[14:11] <contrast83> nvivo: What's the line you're putting in .profile that's not working?
[14:11] <sadoff> i mean i tryed
[14:11] <nvivo> WINEPREFIX=/path
[14:12] <arash> eagles0513875: meh, wait for someone who knows more than me to answer...
[14:12] <contrast83> Hrmm... Seems like that should be good. I'm not sure, TBH. You might ask in #wine.
[14:12] <nvivo> thanks..
[14:12] <eagles0513875> arash: im goign to try my luck
[14:13] <OrionDude> i am looking for a pop3 mail server for my ubuntu ... was told to get courier .. but i cannot find it anywhere .. anyone got directions for me ?
[14:13] <contrast83> np
[14:13] <eagles0513875> arash: i can always restore the backup i have or reinstall feisty lol i dont have anything on here
[14:13] <arash> OrionDude, are you aware this is Kubuntu channel, not Ubuntu?
[14:14] <eagles0513875> here goes nothing wish me luck
[14:14]  * arash wishes eagle luck
[14:15] <eagles0513875> arash: so far so good
[14:15] <OrionDude> arash: yes i am ... but as far as i know Kubuntu = ubuntu with a shell (kinda) .. and courier should work on kubuntu also .. right?
[14:16] <sadoff> }=))
[14:17] <kvnxp> quien habla español ?
[14:17] <arash> OrionDude: Well, I can tell Ubuntu channel has more users, so you might get help faster there, there is no reason to ask here unless you actually use Kubuntu, but you can ask at both places ;)
[14:17] <arash> !es | kvnxp
[14:17] <ubot3> kvnxp: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[14:17] <sadoff> а по русски никто не говорит?
[14:18] <eagles0513875> !ru |sadoff
[14:18] <arash> !ru | sadoff
[14:18] <ubot3> sadoff: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:18] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:18] <arash> :p
[14:18] <spykedtomato> my clock will NOT show the date, even though I've checked it in the settings- can anyone help?
[14:19] <OrionDude> arash: i did ask in ubuntu also .... for some time now without any response ...
[14:19] <arash> OrionDude: ah, I do that too :), well, it makes sense to ask at both places :)
[14:20] <OrionDude> i really need a pop3 mail server installed ... but i really lack the (mental) ability to use ubuntu server so i need the desktop version ...
[14:20] <spykedtomato> nobody? :(
[14:21] <eagles0513875> spykedtomato: what version are you using
[14:21] <spykedtomato>   gutsy
[14:21] <eagles0513875> interesting ill let u know once i upgrade to it lol
[14:21] <spykedtomato> before the upgrade it was working fine
[14:22] <eagles0513875> spykedtomato: im running feisty atm and its fine
[14:22] <spykedtomato> it was fine on my feisty too
[14:22] <spykedtomato> but now... no date display in the clock :(
[14:23] <spykedtomato> i've googled until my fingers bled
[14:23] <spykedtomato> ubuntuforums too
[14:23] <ardchoille> spykedtomato: have you logged out and back in? Have you restarted the panel?
[14:23] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: would restarting the x help
[14:24] <ardchoille> if he restarted xorg, then that should be enough
[14:24] <spykedtomato> ardchoille: i just restarted x - wouldn't that also restart the panel?
[14:24] <ardchoille> yes
[14:24] <ardchoille> spykedtomato: try removing the clock applet and adding it back
[14:25] <spykedtomato> ok... 2 secs
[14:26] <spykedtomato> seems to have worked  -  the fonts are bonked but i have a date
[14:26] <ardchoille> fix the fonts and you should be good
[14:26] <eagles0513875> im back
[14:26] <spykedtomato> yep thanks
[14:26] <ardchoille> yw
[14:27] <MilhousePunkRock> !aptfix
[14:27] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:27] <eagles0513875> how does one add the gpu key so that i dont get any error message or have any errors when it comes to fetchign updates
[14:27] <eagles0513875> !gpu
[14:27] <ubot3> Factoid gpu not found
[14:28] <contrast83> eagles0513875: What error messages are you getting?
[14:28] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: the missing key should be posted at the repo somewhere. Ex. when I added the medibuntu repo, the website posted the key with instructions on how to add it
[14:28] <contrast83> Oh, you mean gpg.
[14:29] <eagles0513875> contrast83: ya thats what i mean
[14:29] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: which repo?
[14:29] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[14:29] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:30] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: the supported and community supported pkgs as well as the backports
[14:30] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Those keys should have been added during the install
[14:30] <nvivo> Please, can anyone tell me where is the best place to set user environment variables?
[14:30] <ardchoille> Or is this an upgrade?
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i am upgrading from feisty
[14:30] <ardchoille> ok
[14:31] <arash> wait a second, who the hell is this ubot3 dude? What happend to ubotu?
[14:31] <eagles0513875> arash: was wondering the same thing
[14:31] <eagles0513875> and what happened then to ubot2 and ubot 1 lol
[14:31] <ardchoille> ubotu has been fragile lately, so I think they're using ubot3 in its place temporarily
[14:31] <eagles0513875> poor ubotu
[14:31] <nvivo> anyone?
[14:32] <ardchoille> nvivo: ~/.bashrc
[14:32] <ardchoille> !repos
[14:32] <ubot3> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[14:32] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:33] <nvivo> .bashrc is not loaded by KDE
[14:33] <ardchoille> ah, true
[14:33] <nvivo> I need a place where I can set an environment variable for the entire session, not only for bash
[14:33] <eagles0513875> anyone have a link or a simple how to to add gpg keys
[14:33] <nvivo> I can't believe how hard it is to set an env variable.. :-)
[14:34] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I'm looking for it now
[14:34] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ty. are there any bugs out for feisty and kopete
[14:34] <eagles0513875> cuz for some reason when  i have it sign into my accounts like yahoo and msn it crashes with a signal 11
[14:35] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: There was a bug that made kopete crash when signing into msn
[14:35] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: one way through the adept manager
[14:35] <WaltzingAlong> ardchoille: but with gutsy
[14:35] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit
[14:35] <ubot3> Malone bug 153500 in kdelibs "Kopete crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]
[14:35] <tekteen> I have been having problems installing kubuntu on qemu. The installer can not find the cd (although qemu does boot from it). By the way I am using the alternative cd although I tried the live one too.  The installer can not find the cd (although qemu does boot from it). By the way I am using the alternative cd although I tried the live one too. Can anyone help?
[14:38] <eagles0513875> *language |eagles0513875
[14:38] <ardchoille> haha
[14:39] <eagles0513875> tekteen: what is qemu
[14:39] <WaltzingAlong> !info qemu
[14:39] <ubot3> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4097 kB, installed size 10668 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm armeb armel s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[14:39] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: then my next headache is getting my broadcom wifi to work at school
[14:39] <eagles0513875> im goign to have to try the qemu
[14:39] <tekteen> it has been
[14:39] <tekteen> great
[14:40] <steevc> hi, I'm trying to upgrade to Gutsy, but it's hanging on configuring libjpeg62. Any suggestions?
[14:40] <tekteen> It stopped working when I upgraded
[14:40] <stamen> who can help me to solve the problem with nvidia drivers in 7.10
[14:40] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: which problem?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> tekteen: have u tried installing it after
[14:41] <tekteen> after what
[14:41] <tekteen> ???
[14:41] <eagles0513875> after installing kubuntu
[14:41] <tekteen> yes
[14:41] <stamen> when I Installed them with restricted manager the KDE can't satrt
[14:41] <stamen> start
[14:41] <tekteen> I did a fresh install then installed it
[14:41] <eagles0513875> humm i dunno
[14:41] <tekteen> then it did not work
[14:41] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: check the log on why; less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:41] <stamen> and gives diferent versions with the kernel
[14:42] <eagles0513875> here goes nothing with this upgrade
[14:42] <eagles0513875> wish me luck lol
[14:43] <stamen> WaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.com/d79ab932
[14:43] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[14:43] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:44] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: so remove any reference to nvidia through adept then install through the restricted manager
[14:44] <erjon> ciao a tutti italian suport link ?
[14:44] <WaltzingAlong> !it | erjon
[14:44] <ubot3> erjon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:44] <stamen> WaltzingAlong: ok, I will try now
[14:44] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: but the 'nv' driver is the open source nvidia driver and that one works now, no?
[14:45] <stamen> WaltzingAlong: I am using it now
[14:45] <stamen> but I need 3D
[14:45] <stamen> nv can't work with it
[14:45] <stamen> I think
[14:45] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: sure so we can get the nvidia (restricted) one on there
[14:46] <steevc> so any suggesting on what to do with a hanging upgrade?
[14:46] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[14:46] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:46] <stamen> yes, but on this version of kubuntu appears this problem like mine
[14:46] <erjon> thank's
[14:46] <stamen> and this happens if you install it with fresh copy
[14:46] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: can u tell me why i have duplicates
[14:47] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42353/
[14:47] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: otherwise install the latest/greatest nvidia driver?
[14:47] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | stamen
[14:47] <ubot3> stamen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:48] <eagles0513875> steevc: im wondering if its a bug give me some time to see if i have that issue as well
[14:48] <stamen> WaltzingAlong: I am trying to install this one with 100... somthing
[14:49] <stamen> it is the latest driver there, and as I sawed whne I try to install the nvidia-glx-new it is the same
[14:49] <steevc> eagles0513875: thanks
[14:49] <stamen> and the problem appears again and it is the same
[14:49] <eagles0513875> steevc: no prob what version r u up grading from
[14:50] <eagles0513875> steevc: u running feisty or an older version
[14:50] <stamen> the nvidia kernel is with diferent version from the driver and wants to be with same versions
[14:50] <stamen> on kubuntu 7.04 there was no problem with the drivers till now
[14:50] <steevc> eagles0513875: going from Feisty
[14:50] <eagles0513875> steevc: same here
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: so how are you installing? either manual or through repos
[14:50] <eagles0513875> steevc: did u follow the link at the top right
[14:51] <stamen> and I don't know why with every new release there is aways problems
[14:51] <stamen> WaltzingAlong: from both ways
[14:51] <stamen> I tried only with the one of the drivers ofcourse
[14:51] <stamen> and from the both ways, the same errors
[14:51] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: doesnt he need the blacklist the one thats causing the problem
[14:52] <steevc> eagles0513875: I used the upgrade thing in Adept. did you mean the announcements link?
[14:52] <eagles0513875> steevc: ya the one here in konversation
[14:52] <stamen> eagles0513875: from the default in /etc/defaults ?
[14:52] <eagles0513875> stamen: u have to do that in the xorg.conf
[14:52] <eagles0513875> thats where i did mine and it worked
[14:52] <stamen> what I have to change there
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: ok so one way or the other. if you do the manual way then you need to blacklist the one that comes in the repos
[14:53] <stamen> ant please tell me waht to do to make work all again
[14:53] <stamen> tell me ho to do that
[14:53] <eagles0513875> i have a wiki for my ati card but that should point u in the right direction
[14:53] <stamen> because I get mad with this drivers
[14:53] <eagles0513875> r u tryign to get ur open gl to work
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: follow this: it points out about getting the kernel version conflict: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[14:53] <eagles0513875> stamen: u think u have it bad i have it really bad
[14:54] <stamen> ok
[14:54] <stamen> :)
[14:54] <WaltzingAlong> stamen: check troubleshooting toward the bottom
[14:54] <stamen> ok
[14:56] <eagles0513875> stamen: i have to get my open gl to work and have to do some modification of the x server2ndly i have a pain in the but wifi card a broadcom
[14:56] <eagles0513875> then i have to get wine and setup all my windows programs on it
[14:56] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:57] <stamen> eagles0513875: uauuu, realy big trouble
[14:57] <stamen> and a lot of work
[14:57] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: bcm43xx? not really a terrible issue any longer. wine? ah, step by step
[14:57] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what u mean bout the bcm43xx r u talking bout that reverse engineered driver thats out there
[14:58] <patricio> on gutsy gibbon: kopete crashes on me upon the msn login with a SIGSEV 11
[14:58] <eagles0513875> stamen: this is for an ati card. they have fglrx not sure what nvidia is i think its glx or something not sure
[14:58] <MilhousePunkRock> patricio: There is a fix for it, hang on
[14:58] <eagles0513875> stamen: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[14:58] <patricio> Minataku: okay
[14:58] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[14:58] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:58] <patricio> MilhousePunkRock: ok
[14:59] <eagles0513875> sweetness a repository for wine
[14:59] <MilhousePunkRock> patricio: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[14:59] <eagles0513875> and i had the wrong version i needed the 64bit repositories
[14:59] <WaltzingAlong> kopete crashing on gutsy with msn? check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/153500/comments/29 with downloads for 32bit and 64bit | patricio
[14:59] <ubot3> Malone bug 153500 in kdelibs "Kopete crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]
[15:00] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: 'ati' is the open source driver for ati cards. 'fglrx' is the restricted driver for ati cards
[15:00] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: in that link why do i black list the one that comes with the kernel
[15:01] <eagles0513875> who do i report repo errors to
[15:01] <stamen> eagles0513875: I will read the link
[15:01] <eagles0513875> stamen: if u need anything explained let me know
[15:02] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: if you want to install the latest from ati then you need to blacklist the one loaded with ubuntu restricted (otherwise they conflict)
[15:02] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: if you just install the one provided in the repos then no need to blacklist
[15:02] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i follow the one in that wiki that i let stamen see
[15:03] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: for broadcom wifi and gutsy, the bcm43xx may be the driver you want to use
[15:03] <eagles0513875> ive tried that in edgy and feisty but had to use ndiswrapper
[15:03] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | eagles0513875 if you want to install the lastest but it also shows how to install the one in the repos
[15:04] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: time to try again with bcm43xx and gutsy
[15:04] <eagles0513875> did they add that reverse engineered bcm43xx driver
[15:04] <jimmacdonald> WaltzingAlong: That is the driver I use on my Dell and it works just fine.
[15:04] <eagles0513875> if thats the case im goign to be so happy
[15:04] <eagles0513875> cuz when i started using linux with suse 9.0 i had realy headaches with it
[15:04] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: the bcm43xx with gutsy has worked well on all machines on which i have used it
[15:04] <sonic> anyone else have kde 4 strigi and Soprano installed from a fresh gusty install?
[15:05] <sonic> did they backport these?
[15:05] <WaltzingAlong> sonic: gutsy comes with strigi
[15:06] <sonic> what about soprano?
[15:06] <WaltzingAlong> !info libsoprano4 | sonic, can be installed, it seems
[15:06] <ubot3> sonic, can be installed, it seems: libsoprano4: Qt4 interface to RDF storage. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.95.0~beta2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 516 kB, installed size 1828 kB
[15:06] <eagles0513875> i just learned something new
[15:07] <julius> How do i disable Kubuntu's memory of last opened applications?
[15:07] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: any problems with the 64bit version
[15:07] <WaltzingAlong> julius: where is that?
[15:07] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: with wine? with fglrx? with bcm43xx?
[15:07] <eagles0513875> time to finish the upgrade
[15:07] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ya
[15:08] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: just so i am aware of them and dont go wanting to kill thsi laptop lol
[15:08] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: the headaches to encounter with 64bit desktop os? lack of java plugin or flash plugin
[15:08] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: they use the 32 bit
[15:08] <eagles0513875> pkg
[15:08] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[15:08] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:09] <julius> WaltzingAlong: if i have Konversation open and shut the PC down it automatically comes back up when i restart
[15:09] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: right there are ways to get them on there as 32bit, but i meant 3d and wine and such should not be the headaches
[15:09] <sonic> WaltzingAlong: im only asking because the installed version was too old and gave me errors when compiling kde4 kdebase svn
[15:09] <julius> its actually nifty in somecases however when i have mutliple tmp files open or i am viewing many remote directories in konquer it gets tiring to close all the error messages :p
[15:09] <WaltzingAlong> julius: ok so kde is restoring the lession. kmenu/system settings/advance/session manager
[15:10] <julius> cheers
[15:10] <WaltzingAlong> session*
[15:10] <julius> while i am hear, how do i get the compiz-fusion stuff setup
[15:10] <julius> !compiz-fusion
[15:10] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:10] <julius> will that guide work well for gutsy?
[15:10] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i wish that direct rendering woudl be enabled out of the box u know what im saying
[15:11] <julius> actually i should check if i am still using VESA drivers lol
[15:11] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: right. gutsy should make it easy with the restricted manager
[15:11] <dystopianray> does anyone have a wg511v2?
[15:11] <julius> i think it works
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ : julius: yes it works for gutsy. also check the wiki for compiz-fusion
[15:12] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i hope so
[15:12] <patricio> WaltzingAlong: The kdelibs-fix from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bug/153500 did not solve my problem, msn is still crashing kopete upon login
[15:12] <ubot3> Malone bug 153500 in kdelibs "Kopete crashes on startup" [High,Fix committed]
[15:12] <dystopianray> patricio: the fix is in gutsy-updates too
[15:12] <julius> do you guys have any neato superkarambara files?
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> gutsy-proposed or updates already?
[15:12] <dystopianray> gutsy-updates
[15:13] <dystopianray> along with a second fix
[15:13] <dystopianray> that is not for kopete
[15:14] <WaltzingAlong> patricio: ok so with software-properties-kde installed, enable the updates listed in adept manager / manage repositories / updates
[15:14] <sonic> well then for anyone interesting in compiling kde 4 from svn, you have to remove libsoprano4 or you will get build errors
[15:14] <sonic> FYI
[15:15] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: another thing i have noticed with 64bit version of kubuntu quicker start up times and the internet is a whole lot faster
[15:15] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: how is it faster?
[15:15] <patricio> WaltzingAlong: okay, I'll do that
[15:17] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: compared to winblows it is lol with 64bit i know there rnt alot of apps that take advantage of it but dude it allows for some sick multitasking
[15:17] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: in regards to internet im getting quicker download speeds
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: compared with ms's 64bit windows xp?
[15:17] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: dont get me started with that piece of crap
[15:18] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: any game i would play on my desktop would cause my whole system to lock up
[15:18] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: if i tried to put it on here its hard to get driver support for it
[15:18] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: i find your claim highly dubious
[15:18] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: claim in what regard
[15:19] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: about higher download speeds
[15:19] <WaltzingAlong> 64bit firefox vs 32bit firefox and noticeably faster downloads
[15:19] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: im saying using cli to download updated pkgs
[15:19] <arash> waltzingalong , is 64bit faster?
[15:19] <eagles0513875> average download speed in 32bit winblows bout 111k
[15:19] <eagles0513875> arash: of course it is ur taking double the amount of data lol
[15:20] <wilson__> dribble dribble
[15:20] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: i doubt it
[15:20] <eagles0513875> arash: do u have a 64bit processor
[15:20] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ?
[15:20] <arash> eagles0513875: yea, I think so, at least it says AMD 64 :p
[15:20] <dystopianray> i have one
[15:20] <eagles0513875> arash: get the 64bit version of gutsy
[15:20] <waylandbill> I doubt it would be a device driver issue. It'd be slowed by the system being busy doing something else.
[15:20] <eagles0513875> u too dystopianray
[15:20] <dystopianray> i found that 64-bit was a tiny bit slower
[15:20] <arash> eagles0513875: The live CD wouldn't start, elseway I would used it
[15:20] <wilson__> is there a 64 bit flash plugin for linux ?
[15:21] <WaltzingAlong> wilson__: from adobe, no not yet
[15:21] <dystopianray> wilson__: no, but you can use nspluginwrapper
[15:21] <SpoZen> does anyone here know how to generate a new cupsd.conf file?
[15:21] <wilson__> hrm
[15:21] <eagles0513875> arash: did u use the alternate or the one meant for 64bit processors
[15:21] <wilson__> what about java
[15:21] <eagles0513875> wilson__: i just use the 32bit flash wiht no problems
[15:22] <eagles0513875> wilson__: i still need to set that up j/w r u a java programmer
[15:22] <wilson__> yeah but I don't realy want to have two browsers
[15:22] <dystopianray> i am a java programmer
[15:22] <eagles0513875> wilson u wont need 2
[15:22] <eagles0513875> i just use firefox
[15:22] <wilson__> but i'm in love with konqueror
[15:22] <dystopianray> wilson__: nspluginwrapper uses a 64-bit browser
[15:22] <wilson__> hahaha
[15:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:22] <dystopianray> i also love konqueror
[15:22] <arash> eagles0513875: I did use Live CD, 64 bit version, wouldnt start, screen went black after it finished loading for first time in Live CD
[15:22] <eagles0513875> wilson__: can i ask u something about java
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info nspluginwrapper
[15:22] <ubot3> Package nspluginwrapper does not exist in gutsy
[15:23] <dystopianray> i thought it did exist?
[15:23] <eagles0513875> arash: what system u running it on desktop or lap
[15:23] <arash> eagles0513875: desktop
[15:23] <eagles0513875> arash: what make custom or hp or what
[15:23] <wilson__> i'm not a java guru, i just have heard that java on 64 linux has been a problem
[15:23] <dystopianray> there is no 64-bit browser plugin for java
[15:23] <eagles0513875> wilson__: ill let u know
[15:24] <dystopianray> but i believe nspluginwrapper does work with java
[15:24] <arash> eagles0513875: It's a HP computer, it had Vista on it, some junk my dad bought...
[15:24] <eagles0513875> arash: did u do a completely clean install
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5432079  ?
[15:24] <wilson__> well, the easy thing for me is I can run 64 bit guests with kvm
[15:24] <arash> eagles0513875: I didnt install, since the Live CD didn't come to the desktop after the loading
[15:24] <wilson__> even though the host is 32 bit
[15:24] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: I imagine he just booted the liveCD
[15:25] <wilson__> so i'll test it out
[15:25] <dystopianray> wilson__: how can that work?
[15:25] <eagles0513875> arash: have u tried it with feisty
[15:25] <arash> eagles0513875: it was feisty CD yea, but I did not order 64bit gutsy this time
[15:26] <eagles0513875> arash: what video card is in it
[15:26] <karadas74> hi
[15:26] <zigonick> sudo apt-get install firefox is not working? how can i install firefox on Kubuntu?
[15:27] <ubuntu_> Hello
[15:27] <arash> eagles0513875: Nvida 8800 or whatever it is called
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> zigonick: sudo aptitude install firefox    what happens instead?
[15:27] <ubuntu_> Has anyone tried to have kubuntu on usb key ?
[15:27] <eagles0513875> arash: 512mb card or 768
[15:27] <ubuntu_> my syslinux.cfg seems to have problem with keywords not recognized
[15:27] <VousDeux> is there somewhere else to report bugs for kubuntu besides bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ because I have bug reports on there that are several months old and nobody has ever responded and the status has never changed
[15:27] <zigonick> 09:02] <jrib> zigonick: the other thing you could do is pass  --print-uris  to apt get and that will give you a list of URLs to download.  Then use some download program at work, come home, copy to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:28] <arash> eagles0513875: eh,, motherboard? no idea
[15:28] <zigonick> blah
[15:28] <eagles0513875> ubuntu_: nope but that would be rather kool but u would need an extremely portable version though and small. try damn small linux its only 50mb
[15:28] <zigonick> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another source
[15:28] <eagles0513875> arash: lol
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: #kubuntu-devel ?
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> zigonick: aptitude search firefox
[15:28] <arash> eagles0513875: for some reason my dad don't show me the system information papers, probably he doens't like me dealing with linux or something :p
[15:28] <eagles0513875> r u on it right now
[15:29] <eagles0513875> arash: u on it atm
[15:29] <dystopianray> VousDeux: file it upstream if possible
[15:29] <dystopianray> VousDeux: what bugs are they?
[15:29] <arash> eagles0513875: what?
[15:29] <eagles0513875> arash: u on that desktop atm or another desktop or laptop cuz i can help u find out the specs lol
[15:29] <arash> eagles0513875: aha, yea, I am, 7.04 kubuntu
[15:30] <VousDeux> dystopianray: several bugs related to my wifi, touch pad and power management
[15:30] <dystopianray> VousDeux: did you offer a patch to fix them?
[15:30] <eagles0513875> arash: right click then on my computer and hit properties that should bring up a box that has all ur system specs and what type of os and all that
[15:30] <zigonick> i   mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb    - Mozilla Firefox English language/region pa, I get that, and when i type sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb I get mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb is already the newest version.
[15:30] <VousDeux> dystopianray: if I knew how to fix them, I wouldn't need any help
[15:30] <wilson__> dystopianray: actually i might be wrong about that 64 bit on a 32 bit host thing, my bad
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> zigonick: pastebin your sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <arash> eagles0513875: my computer?? where?
[15:31] <dystopianray> wilson__: i know you can run 32-bit guest in 64-bit host
[15:31] <eagles0513875> arash: on that hp desktop lol
[15:31] <arash> eagles0513875: Im not on windows, So where is hte 'my computer'?
[15:31] <ChaosMachine> arash, hes talking about a windows machine..
[15:31] <eagles0513875> arash: oh lol
[15:32] <eagles0513875> is it possible on 64bit machine u get quicker speeds when downloading
[15:32] <ChaosMachine> arash, what 'specs' are you trying to get, and for what?
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: have you had the 32bit on there?
[15:32] <VousDeux> dystopianray: I'm not a developer, I'm just trying to be a user, but I can't seem to get any help getting things to work
[15:32] <wilson__> eagles0513875: no
[15:32] <zigonick> http://pastebin.ca/751526
[15:32] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: yes takes a lil bit longer to start up
[15:33] <eagles0513875> and alot more sluggish
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: ok and the downloads via firefox?
[15:33] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: no cli
[15:33] <dystopianray> sometimes the bugs go unanswered for a long time
[15:33] <arash> ChaosMachine: I dont wanna :p, for some reason eagle want to know my computer parts :p.
[15:33] <eagles0513875> ill check that out once the updates r done downloading ill be back a lil bit later im goign ot watch some tv and take a nap
[15:33] <ChaosMachine> arash, oh, interesting...x.x
[15:33] <eagles0513875> arash: lol
[15:33] <eagles0513875> :p
[15:33] <arash> ChaosMachine: howecer, Is there any easy way to find out what hardware you have?
[15:33] <frojnd> I have a problem. I can connect to an open network but I cann't connect to a network that require a key. I set everything IPs dns key but still can't connect to a network. Any suggestions?
[15:34] <frojnd> ofcaurse it's wireless
[15:34] <dystopianray> frojnd: you need a password to access an encrypted networks
[15:34] <eagles0513875> arash: lol
[15:34] <eagles0513875> ill be back in about 40min
[15:35] <arash> me too. Dinner iz ready, well actually lunch XD
[15:35] <VousDeux> dystopianray: well, I'm just trying to find out where the best place to get help is, because so far I have not had much luck in here or by submitting bug reports
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: :D you can enable lots of repos through adept or check the file i will send back via pastebin  http://pastebin.ca/751527
[15:35] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i figured it out
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> zigonick: (i meant) :D you can enable lots of repos through adept or check the file i will send back via pastebin  http://pastebin.ca/751527
[15:35] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i figured out what the problem was
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: what was it?
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: how are you attempting to connect?
[15:36] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: in source omatic if u enable the sources the backports source list and the supported and community supported repos source list and the backports one r exactly the same so i was copying 2 of the same things
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: which help? some is on your shoulders to do - like bug reports but also searching here and the ubuntu help pages
[15:36] <eagles0513875> speaking off i should email the guy and let him know lol
[15:36] <erjon> kubuntu suport ita ?
[15:36] <VousDeux> someday, it would be nice to actually be able to use my new computer, but unless I can get the hardware working it's pretty useless
[15:37] <eagles0513875> !it |erjon
[15:37] <ubot3> erjon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:37] <WaltzingAlong> erjon: si
[15:37] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, I know I need password
[15:37] <erjon> ok thank's
[15:37] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, but it still doesn't work
[15:37] <WaltzingAlong> yes thanks and next?
[15:37] <eagles0513875> frojnd: is this ur own personal wifi network
[15:37] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: what do you see? how are you attempting to connect?
[15:37] <erjon> i go in italian suport now
[15:37] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:37] <eagles0513875> if u speak english lol ur more then wlelcome to stay here
[15:38] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: its nice to see the ladies getting involved
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> erjon: va bene. a dopo
[15:38] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, when wirless is on romaing mode I see: router and than I have to put in key
[15:38] <TimS> how can I change the root password?
[15:38] <KalEl> chess program for kubuntu?
[15:38] <eagles0513875> nickserv identify 623xvnqh48
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> !root | tims
[15:38] <ubot3> tims: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:38] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, but It can't be roaming mode since I have to set IPs...
[15:38] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: I have done tons of research, and I have filed bug reports, but I just don't seem to be getting anywhere...I just wanted to know if there is somewhere else I should be looking for help
[15:38] <eagles0513875> frojnd: what kind of router is is it a linksys
[15:39] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: I mean,t how do I change the sudo password
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: which problems? the urls of the bug reports? which one should we tackle first
[15:39] <eagles0513875> TimS: sudo pwd
[15:39] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, it's linksyy
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: sudo asks for your own password
[15:39] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, it's linksys
[15:39] <joerack> Hello! can you help me ? I'm getting a "Hal storage fixed mount all options refused uid 1000" while trying to mount my ntfs drive
[15:39] <eagles0513875> frojnd: go into it enable dhcp and u can also see what the key is in there as well
[15:39] <VousDeux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/149214
[15:39] <ubot3> Malone bug 149214 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "[Gutsy] Intel 4965AGN wireless connection dies" [Undecided,New]
[15:39] <eagles0513875> joerack: hey thats an easy fix
[15:39] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: Does it?
[15:40] <TimS> I swear it doesnt
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: yes. there is no 'root' in ubuntu
[15:40] <joerack> It's my first time eith kubuntu after 2 weeks of ubuntu
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> (well there can be but it is disabled)
[15:40] <joerack> ubuntu just worked...
[15:40] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: So if I change my password, it will change sudos correct?
[15:40] <eagles0513875> joerack: ok
[15:40] <zigonick> WaltzingAlong: I updated that paste bin to my sourlist, and still didnt work
[15:40] <eagles0513875> joerack: is this an external drive ur trying to connect to or another partition on the same machine
[15:41] <eagles0513875> joerack: ?
[15:41] <joerack> eagles0513875: it's my second sata drive
[15:41] <VousDeux> If I could just get one problem solved at a time, it would be nice, but for the past several weeks I just keep spinning my wheels
[15:41] <joerack> took a while to write your nick lol
[15:41] <WaltzingAlong> zigonick: after modifying the sources.list at /etc/apt/sources.list  the update (sudo aptitude update) then aptitude search firefox
[15:41] <eagles0513875> joerack: hit tab next time lol brings up the name of the last person who talked to ya
[15:42] <nosredna_ekim> !tab | joerack
[15:42] <ubot3> joerack: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[15:42] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: have you attempted a newer version of the module you describe?
[15:42] <eagles0513875> joerack: so open up the command line and type sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:42] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: how do I know if there is a newer version...I have applied all updates
[15:42] <frojnd> eagles0513875, yes it's linksys
[15:43] <joerack> eagles0513875: i'm afraid that ntfs3g is already installed i checked on synaptec, however i'll do it
[15:43] <joerack> ops adept
[15:43] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: not one available in the repos but one you compile yourself?
[15:43] <eagles0513875> joerack: if its installed
[15:43] <frojnd> eagles0513875, i set to dns...
[15:43] <frojnd> eagles0513875, still I can't connect
[15:43] <eagles0513875> frojnd: dns is just the domain name server its not what gives u ip addresses u need to enable dhcp
[15:43] <KalEl> how do i know where a particular program is running from when i type it on Konsole?
[15:43] <eagles0513875> joerack: then u have to go into the fstab and add -3g to where it says ntfs
[15:43] <WaltzingAlong> KalEl: how do you mean?
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: i mean a more recent version of iwlwifi ?
[15:44] <frojnd> eagles0513875, sorry I meant dhcp server
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> KalEl: if you just type a command name? it can be coming from anywhere in the PATH
[15:44] <eagles0513875> frojnd: waht u could do is completely reset the router and then set it up from scratch
[15:44] <eagles0513875> joerack: does what i said make any sense
[15:44] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: is there a document that explains what you are talking about?
[15:45] <KalEl> WaltzingAlong: yeah exactly... i meant can i know where exactly from path? for example, if i type say "gnuchess" can i know which is the first match resolved, from where it is running
[15:45] <KalEl> thanks
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=HOWTO-iwlwifi ?
[15:46] <joerack> eagles0513875: yes, I have to add a line to /etc/fstab
[15:46] <eagles0513875> joerack: yep that should do it for ya
[15:46] <eagles0513875> joerack: then just unmount it the remount the drive
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> KalEl: you can type export to see the path in konsole; you can specific the filename with full path if you want /usr/bin/programname
[15:46] <TimS> Jucato: I have a problem. When I launch konqueror via the CLI with Kdesu Konqueror, even if I dont put in a password or put the wrong one in, I still have root access
[15:46] <joerack> just looking for the repository of gedit
[15:46] <eagles0513875> joerack: lol u might need to enable the rest of the repos
[15:47] <eagles0513875> joerack: fyi kde is a better desktop lol. and better developed gnome is still in its infancy
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: there is a known issue with kdesu (kdesudo is attempting to address that). also recall that there is a 15minute default timeout for sudo
[15:47] <fulat2k> hi folks, i recently upgraded to gutsy from feisty.  however, kaffeine somehow stopped working.  i installed the metapackage kubuntu-restricted-extras.  any idea what's wrong?
[15:47] <joerack> yep
[15:47] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: I remember trying this stuff a couple of months ago...at that time it wouldn't work because the kernel did not support the mac80211 thing
[15:48] <eagles0513875> joerack: holla if u need anything else
[15:48] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: did u do an upgrade or clean install
[15:48] <fulat2k> eagles0513875: upgrade
[15:48] <joerack> the reason I snobbed Kde,was the adept Gui : looked complicated, but at a second glance looks more functional, ok thanks
[15:48] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: humm
[15:48] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: i see. perhaps your card works better with the more recent version. something to try like you did some months ago
[15:48] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: however, I think somebody did something because an update later at least the wifi started working
[15:48] <eagles0513875> joerack: u can also download stuff and search for packages using the cli
[15:48] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: So anyone could have full root access by launching Konqueror with kdesu
[15:48] <WaltzingAlong> joerack: there are others too
[15:49] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: i dont know what to tell ya im actually in teh middle of upgrading as we speak
[15:49] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: u wanna know what else i love about kubuntu
[15:49] <fulat2k> eagles0513875: in feisty, i installed the packages specified in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: not necessarily, i think one would have to have typed it correctly at least once
[15:49] <TimS> !changepassword
[15:49] <ubot3> Factoid changepassword not found
[15:49] <TimS> Hmm, okay.
[15:50] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: you want to change your own password? run passwd from konsole
[15:50] <TimS> I changed it under usermanagement and I am not sure if thats how it was supposed to be done
[15:50] <TimS> But it worked
[15:50] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: humm i dont know what to tell ya
[15:50] <eagles0513875> TimS: u can change passwords that way or using cli
[15:50] <TimS> Okay
[15:50] <TimS> Thanks eagles0513875 and WaltzingAlong
[15:50] <fulat2k> eagles0513875: it's alrite.  just trying my luck ;P
[15:51] <eagles0513875> TimS: no prob
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: ok so this particular issue seems to be kernel/module related, not a quick fix for me ;)
[15:51] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: trust me im not much luckier
[15:51] <eagles0513875> fulat2k: have alot to install and configure
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: yes why else
[15:51] <eagles0513875> im smoking through downloading these updates
[15:52] <VousDeux> WaltzingAlong: that's the problem...everything that needs to be fixed is way over my head, and I can't find anyone to help
[15:52] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: cuz the powermanagement is so much better then the one in winblows
[15:52] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: my battery last bout 1hr half in winblows this bout 2 2and half
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: yeah i noticed that too with my laptop and i think it mostly has to do with the great memory management of linux - very very rarely swapping to disk (though ms windows on my machine would do it on boot and love to use swap in place of my RAM)
[15:53] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: lol
[15:53] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ur using 32bit right or 64
[15:53] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: 2.5 hours is a really short time
[15:53] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: i have an athlon 64 3200+
[15:54] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: in a laptop?
[15:54] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: yep
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: only 32bit hardware now.
[15:54] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: compaq pesario r4000 series
[15:54] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: also have u noticed that it doesnt take as long as windows to load up
[15:54] <VousDeux> all I want to know is if there are any help-related resources I may not be aware of
[15:54] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: i have this same kinda processor in my desktop
[15:55] <eagles0513875> VousDeux: try this forum www.overclock.net free to sign up and the have a linux section
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: seems to me that ms windows xp was showing the desktop a bit faster but was not usable for several minutes yet whereas with how i have kubuntu, when i see the desktop i can use it
[15:55] <ubuntu_> hi i am on live cd on kubuntu i cant find compiz fusion anywhere,,?
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> !help
[15:55] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:55] <eagles0513875> ya same here
[15:55] <dystopianray> ubuntu_: kubuntu does not have it
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | ubuntu_
[15:56] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: for me its the other way around i am not sure if its me going from 32 bit to 64 or what
[15:56] <eagles0513875> or its just me having alot of ram
[15:56] <ubuntu_> wat bout normal ubuntu does that have it installed and enabled
[15:56] <dystopianray> ubuntu_: normal ubuntu will enable it by default
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: i would say i see the desktop about the same just with ms windows i need to wait a bunch yet whereas with kubuntu it is ready for me then
[15:56] <eagles0513875> ya
[15:57] <eagles0513875> how much ram u use on average when the system first loads i use around 256 out o my 1.25 gb
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: better to use as much as possible
[15:57] <erjon__> hi can everyone tell me how i can install compiz  in kubuntu
[15:58] <maverick_> guys i've just installed gutsy, and as i did in feisty i installed all the multimedia codecs the same way...but whenever i play music it's distorted..so distorted...any ideas ?!!
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: compiz was written with gnome in mind. kde4 will have similar effects so not so much effort into getting compiz-fusion with kde 3.5.x (and there have been stability issues and such with kde3.5 and compiz - so it was not installed/enabled by default)
[15:58] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: i get about 180MB
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | erjon__ if you can follow these instructions ...
[15:58] <eagles0513875> dystopianray: nice
[15:58] <dystopianray> maverick_: decrease the volume
[15:59] <maverick_> i did decrease PCM to 60 %
[15:59] <maverick_> dystopianray
[15:59] <eagles0513875> have u guys heard or seen the article that the newer nvidia cards and drivers boost performance by 50-90%
[16:00] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: which article?
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> VousDeux: wiki.ubuntu.com and other sources like ubuntuforums and such
[16:00] <dystopianray> eagles0513875: you'er probably thinking of AMD
[16:00] <Thonolan> hello i use Feisty Fawn ..after a broken upgrade to gutsy i cant use arts or alsa
[16:00] <eagles0513875> no of their ati card
[16:00] <eagles0513875> s
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> Thonolan: what do you see of sudo aptitude -f install
[16:00] <Thonolan> i have installed alsa -base
[16:00] <Thonolan> WaltzingAlong: one sek
[16:01] <fbvxcbvxc> кто может помочь со спутниковым каналом?
[16:01] <WaltzingAlong> !ru | fbvxcbvxc
[16:01] <ubot3> fbvxcbvxc: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:01] <eagles0513875> !ru
[16:01] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, i've just found something that annoys the heck out of me
[16:02] <gotico34> hi all
[16:02] <gotico34> whit copile a program in kubuntu?
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !gcc
[16:02] <ubot3> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[16:02] <Daisuke_Ido> why WHY did they go from using mountpoints to kioslaves for storage media?
[16:02] <Thonolan> WaltzingAlong:
[16:02] <Daisuke_Ido> this is one of those dumb dolphin things, i can tell
[16:02] <Thonolan> Die folgenden Pakete werden automatisch zurückgehalten:
[16:03] <Thonolan>   libpng12-dev libssl-dev
[16:03] <Thonolan> Die folgenden Pakete werden zurückgehalten:
[16:03] <eagles0513875> i cant find the article
[16:03] <Thonolan>   bsdutils firefox libnspr4 libnss3 libpng12-0 libssl0.9.8 mount
[16:03] <Thonolan>   mozilla-thunderbird openssl util-linux util-linux-locales
[16:03] <Thonolan> 0 Pakete aktualisiert, 0 zusätzlich installiert, 0 werden entfernt und 13 nicht aktualisiert.
[16:03] <Thonolan> Muss 0B an Archiven herunterladen. Nach dem Entpacken werden 0B zusätzlich belegt sein.
[16:03] <Thonolan> dietrich@dietrich-desktop:~$
[16:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[16:03] <eagles0513875> !pastebin |Thonolan
[16:03] <ubot3> Thonolan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | Thonolan
[16:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !de | Thonolan
[16:03] <ubot3> Thonolan: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> Thonolan: was moechtest du?
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: howdy
[16:04] <joerack> eagles0513875: could you check my fstab? my drive (sdb1) is completely missing and don't know how to add http://pastebin.com/m525c350
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> Daisuke_Ido: you can still use mountpoints
[16:04] <Daisuke_Ido> WaltzingAlong: but it doesn't by default, and that breaks things
[16:04] <BluesKaj> hey WaltzingAlong ...which is your default browser ?
[16:05] <Daisuke_Ido> k9copy for instance
[16:05] <Thonolan> sorry people for the flood
[16:05] <maverick__> something else...now the sound is fixed...but why does the volume slider doesn't affect the volume...only the PCM slider affects it ?!!
[16:05] <eagles0513875> its ok thon
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> joerack: kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems
[16:05] <eagles0513875> maverick__: both do
[16:05] <Daisuke_Ido> media:/Multimedia isn't acceptable
[16:05] <Daisuke_Ido> it says it has to save to a local file
[16:05] <joerack> k thx
[16:05] <maverick__> eagles0513875: no, the master doesn't
[16:05] <Daisuke_Ido> change to /media/Multimedia and it's fine
[16:05] <maverick__> eagles0513875: it's a problem
[16:05] <eagles0513875> maverick__: usually its both of them
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: seamonkey but otherwise i just have kde decide based on the link (so konqueror)
[16:06] <maverick__> eagles0513875: i have a problem
[16:06] <eagles0513875> pcm is just the wave volume like a max the volue will reach
[16:06] <maverick__> eagles0513875: do i have any idea wht could be the cause to this problem
[16:06] <maverick__> ?
[16:06] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: are there any bugs in regards to maverick__ issue
[16:07] <eagles0513875> maverick__: as of right now i do not im actually in the middle of upgrading to gutsy as we speak the pkgs are downloading
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> audio output on my system is affected by changes to the 'master' channel as well as to the 'pcm' channel
[16:07] <eagles0513875> same with mine
[16:07] <eagles0513875> but is what maverick experiencing a bug in gutsy or some other issue
[16:07] <maverick__> eagles0513875: well thnx though...also when i mute the sound keeps playing ...
[16:08] <eagles0513875> maverick__: r u on a laptop
[16:08] <WaltzingAlong> not that i know
[16:08] <maverick__> eagles0513875: yeah
[16:08] <Edulix> hi
[16:08] <Edulix> how can I *disable* 3d accel with an intel card?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> using Konq as my default browser and I luv it ..mostly , except for the cursor's strange behaviour in the google bar. If I try to back to the middle of a pjhrase to add a word or correct spelling the cursor jumps to the end of the phrase after just one key entry ....anyone encounter this and if so where does one change this behaviour ?
[16:09] <eagles0513875> maverick__: in regards to the audio being just the pcm i would file a bug report unless there is already one and 2ndly u might need to end up installing somethign that makes ur shortcut buttons work
[16:09] <eagles0513875> maverick__: for me they work out of the box
[16:09] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's the annoying autocomplete feature. try right-click on the google search bar
[16:09] <Jucato> I kinda forgot where actually
[16:09] <Jucato> Edulix: may I was why you want to disable it?
[16:10] <eagles0513875> ill be back a lil bit later to check on the upgrade progress im goign to watch some tv and nap lol
[16:10] <maverick__> eagles0513875: i can configure the buttons...but that would remain buuggy
[16:11] <Edulix> Jucato: yes. I'm developing a game with ogre and ... it shows in blank with 3d accel
[16:11] <frojnd> hello there
[16:11] <eagles0513875> maverick__: did it work when u had feisty on there
[16:11] <eagles0513875> !ogre
[16:11] <ubot3> Factoid ogre not found
[16:11] <Edulix> and I belive that without 3d accel, using mesa, it will work. why? because that's what happened in suse
[16:12] <Edulix> but in suse I can disable 3d accel using yast, meanwhile I can't find that option in kubuntu
[16:12] <frojnd> I have a q. I have downloaded a .deb package from ubuntu and transger it on another computer and than install there with sudo dpkg -l How cam I unistall remove completely this package ??
[16:12] <Jucato> Edulix: you have to switch to a video card driver that doesn't use the intel drivers.. maybe a generic open source "intel" driver or even vesa.... although that would be strange...
[16:13] <Jucato> I mean your issue is strange.. 3D acceleration is supposed to help with that kind of job..
[16:13] <AmyRose> I thought there was a driconf utility or something
[16:13] <||arifaX> frojnd: sudo dpkg -r programname
[16:13] <Edulix> Jucato: I'm already using the intel driver, which is the only one which supports correctly the intel 965gm.
[16:13] <AmyRose> I know there's a utility that can disable that
[16:13] <Jucato> Edulix: perhaps "vesa" then
[16:13] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: sudo aptitude purge packagename
[16:14] <AmyRose> Jucato: If I remember correctly, Edulix doesn't have to go THAT far...
[16:14] <Jucato> Edulix: or disable glx in xorg.conf... not really sure
[16:14] <Jucato> AmyRose:  you tell him :)
[16:14] <eagles0513875> Jucato: amy is afk
[16:14] <AmyRose> eagles0513875: No I'm not
[16:14] <AmyRose> Edulix: I think if you install the driconf utility you can turn it on and off on the fly
[16:14] <Jucato> eagles0513875: really? O.o
[16:14] <eagles0513875> lol
[16:14] <eagles0513875> guess not
[16:15] <Edulix> Jucato: that's what I thoughht. but I don't see any Load "glx" in xorg.conf
[16:15] <eagles0513875> sup amy
[16:15] <Dragnslcr> Being able to send a message while away would be pretty impressive
[16:15] <BluesKaj> Jucato, nope , changing to simple input method in the googlebar doesn't solve the prob :(
[16:15] <eagles0513875> screw kopete im using pidgin instead lol
[16:15] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sorry... can't recall...
[16:15] <Edulix> AmyRose: I'll try
[16:15] <AmyRose> eagles0513875: But Pidgin sucks! :P
[16:15] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I personally use F6 + "gg:terms"
[16:16] <eagles0513875> kopete is pissing me off right now though lol
[16:16] <arash> Kopete is the best :p
[16:16] <eagles0513875> not when it keeps crashing on ya
[16:16] <AmyRose> Yeah, I have to agree with arash
[16:16] <eagles0513875> its frustrating me just like my java class does at time
[16:16] <eagles0513875> s
[16:17] <eagles0513875> especially my java class right now since we r learning how to program shapes lol
[16:17] <Jucato> eagles0513875: msn?
[16:17] <AmyRose> Edulix: Yes, it is driconf
[16:17] <eagles0513875> Jucato: i removed msn and yahoo i had on there
[16:17] <eagles0513875> Jucato: i then added yahoo messenger and then it crashed on me again
[16:17] <eagles0513875> im goign to try msn on its own
[16:17] <Jucato> baaad
[16:17] <eagles0513875> ?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> Jucato, ok cool, thx for the tip
[16:18] <aurelije> i have installed kde-desktop from ubuntu, how to turn on compiz in kde, please?
[16:18] <AmyRose> !compiz | aurelije
[16:18] <ubot3> aurelije: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:18] <eagles0513875> Jucato: can u explain to me why msn is working fine
[16:19] <AmyRose> !u | eagles0513875
[16:19] <ubot3> eagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[16:19] <AmyRose> :P
[16:19] <Jucato> eagles0513875: no I can't sorry...
[16:19] <eagles0513875> jucato i need yahoo access as well
[16:19] <eagles0513875> now let me try aim
[16:19] <AmyRose> eagles0513875: Yahoo works fine for me
[16:19] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the added advantage of that method is that you don't have to switch the search bar to get to other search engines, you can use wp: for Wikipedia, dict: for Meriam Webster, etc
[16:19] <eagles0513875> and that what crashes it for me
[16:19] <ubuntu_> hi i am on kubuntu live cd but cannot acsess compiz can someone please help me
[16:20] <BluesKaj> righton Jucato :)
[16:20] <ubuntu_> also i am using a nvidia card
[16:20] <Jucato> !compiz | ubuntu_
[16:20] <ubot3> ubuntu_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:20] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: you need to install compiz.
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> Faq #1 :)
[16:20] <Jucato> indeed :)
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> and yes. there are often a lot of little issues with compiz.
[16:20] <arash> ubuntu_ just wondering, why would someone want compiz on the Live-CD?