[03:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nik90, ping
[06:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey all
[06:20] <dpm> morning Akiva-Thinkpad
[06:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, how goes the notes app?
[06:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, need any help with it, or is it coming together nicely?
[06:21] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, you mean reminders?
[06:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yah
[06:21] <dpm> sure, help would be really welcome
[06:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay cool.
[06:22]  * Akiva-Thinkpad branches
[06:23] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, excellent. You might want to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app
[06:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yep already there
[06:25] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, cool. So you might want to pick whichever you find interesting. One that would be good to tackle would be bug 1316947
[06:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cool; I'm looking at the list now
[06:26] <dpm> it probably requires some investigation as to which default font sizes are used in the 3 different scenarios the screenshot attached to the bug represents
[06:26] <dpm> and then we should harmonize those 3 font sizes to be 1 only
 it probably requires some investigation as to which default font sizes are used in the 3 different scenarios the screenshot attached to the bug represents
[06:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> opps
[06:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[06:27] <Akiva-Thinkpad> RequestAccess failed: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown", "The name com.ubuntu.OnlineAccountsUi was not provided by any .service files")
[06:27] <dpm> I'd need a bit of context as to what you're doing :)
[06:27] <dpm> what image, what device (phone, emulator?), etc.
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> qmlscene
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sorry
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[06:28] <dpm> what desktop version?
[06:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> 14.10
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[06:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I need to setup an account
[06:29] <dpm> the app should prompt you to set up the account. Try installing the build dependencies from the .deb package in the core apps ppa
[06:30] <dpm> or this should help too: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/view/head:/README.md
[06:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> http://i.imgur.com/asvn4yf.jpg
[06:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sure
[06:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, this won't be an issue on the phone, correct?
[06:33] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, I'm still missing a bit of context. It seems the app actually runs. What happens exactly when you press the "Add account" button?
[06:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, the debug messages at the bottom
[06:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> APP_ID isn't set, the handler ignored
[06:33] <dpm> right, and then the app freezes?
[06:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> no freeze
[06:33] <dpm> so what happens in the UI?
[06:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> it just does not escape the dialogue
[06:33] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[06:34] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, I think you might need to install the ubuntu-system-settings package
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sure
[06:34] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, if all fails to install on the desktop, I'd rather recommend to use a device or the emulator. It should work out of the box there
[06:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, Thats good to hear
[06:36] <dpm> mardy, what's the situation with bug 1369941? When that lands, is the account-click branch of reminders supposed to work without any further changes?   So i created a new account, and in the settings enabled it, but this did not get rid of the dialogue, and states that I need an account
[07:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I wonder if this has to do with the sandbox or something
[07:02] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, where are you running the app from? Still from the desktop? Try clicking on the button to add the new account, and it might prompt you to authorize the existing one instead of creating a new one
[07:02] <dpm> there are 2 steps to using an account:
[07:02] <dpm> - login to evernote
[07:03] <dpm> - approve reminders to access the account
[07:03] <dpm> Generally you create accounts using reminders
[07:03] <dpm> and the 2 steps happen together
[07:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, thats the thing; It asked me to login; I tried using my email and username with my password. Didnt' work. I tried changing my password, retried, still would not let me login.
[07:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> So I created a new account. okay; that worked, now I see my new account in the lists of accounts.
[07:04]  * Akiva-Thinkpad should just screenshot it.
[07:04] <dpm> the thing with your account is weird, as login is handled by the evernote servers
[07:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, yah it feels as if its the evernote side of things
[07:04] <dpm> as per the second account, if login has happened, then it's an issue with the app or Online Accounts
[07:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> i'm contacting support
[07:05] <mihir> hye Akiva-Thinkpad  :) how are you ?
[07:06] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, do you have the ubuntu-system-settings app installed (i.e the phone app, running on the desktop)? I think unless you install it, the whole authorization process won't work
[07:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, yep http://imgur.com/wS82ev3
[07:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> im getting the debug message on that click  ---  APP_ID isn't set, the handler ignored
[07:07] <dpm> ah, great. And does the "Allow" button work?
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> mihir, APP_ID isn't set, the handler ignored
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> opps
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm APP_ID isn't set, the handler ignored
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> that debug posts
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> when I press "Allow"
[07:07] <dpm> I think all apps get the APP_ID isn't set warning
[07:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hmmmm
[07:09] <mardy> dpm: yes, it will work without changes, I tested your click package
[07:09] <mardy> dpm: but the click package needs to get installed *after* the silo has landed
[07:10] <mihir> dpm: any feedback would be nice if you have , https://plus.google.com/116527124812584566245/posts/YpUGud6y7Jy :)
[07:20] <dpm> mardy, excellent. Yes, obviously we won't land the branch until the UOA branch has landed - is there a silo assigned to it yet?
[07:20] <dpm> mihir, cool, looking now!
[07:21] <mardy> dpm: silo 13, you are very welcome to test it :-)
[07:21] <dpm> \o/
[07:26] <dpm> mihir, added some feedback to the week view picture, nice work!
[07:28] <dpm> Akiva-Thinkpad, I think I'd recommend using the emulator rather trying to figure out which part doesn't work on the desktop. Although perhaps rpadovani has a working Reminders desktop setup and can help you. I generally test the app on the phone or emulator these days
[07:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, yah; strange though that I had it working on the desktop way earlier. Oh well; do what you can~
[07:29]  * Akiva-Thinkpad fires up the ol emulator
[07:29] <dpm> yeah, me too, but it was way back in trusty
[07:30] <dpm> in utopic it should theoretically work better, but it's been a while since I launched the app on the desktop
[07:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah, okay so you ended up switching too. Interesting; I feel less useless now :P
[07:35] <dpm> yeah, my laptop has been in utopic for a while, but I still keep trusty on my desktop in case I need to test anything on the LTS
[08:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Respect Day! :-D
[08:07] <mihir> morning JamesTait  :)
[08:07] <mzanetti> :)
[08:11] <justCarakas> morning
[08:13] <Guest20885> morning, very new here, so not sure what to do
[08:16] <dpm> hi Guest20885, just saying 'hi!' is a very good first step :)
[08:16] <dpm> are you interested in writing apps for Ubuntu on phones?
[08:16] <Guest20885> Oh right, thanks :)
[08:16] <Guest20885> No, just for Ubuntu Desktops
[08:17] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[08:17] <dpm> people are more into the phone on this channel, but if you've got any questions, feel free to ask, and if someone is around who knows the answer, they will try to help
[08:18] <Guest20885> oh, ok, thanks. Is there another channel for dektop dev, then?
[08:19] <Guest20885> i guess i should go and learn how to use QT Creator
[08:57] <dpm_> zbenjamin, I'm trying to test the scopes template and I'm using an up-to-date QtC and I've just updated my chroots. However, I got this error about missing dependencies in the chroot. Were they not supposed to be installed by default? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8370793/
[09:04] <zbenjamin> dpm_: yeah somehow they did not :(
[09:04] <dpm_> zbenjamin, is this a known bug, then?
[09:04] <zbenjamin> dpm_: yes
[09:04] <dpm_> zbenjamin, do you have the bug id?
[09:05] <zbenjamin> dpm_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1370727
[09:06] <dpm_> zbenjamin, thanks. Would it be possible to triage it? I'd suggest to mark it as High
[09:06] <zbenjamin> dpm_: i just tried that, i get timeout errors :/
[09:07] <zbenjamin> dpm_: bah launchpad seems to have problems
[09:07] <dpm_> ok, let's see if we can escalate this one, as it's a blocker for using the tools out of the box
[09:11] <zbenjamin> dpm_: is this on trusty or utopic?
[09:11] <dpm_> zbenjamin, utopic, afaik scopes development is only supported on utopic
[09:12] <zbenjamin> dpm_: with chroots it should work on trusty as well, but i just learned that our MPs have landed but click was not released since then for some reason
[09:13] <popey> dpm_: are you able to build filemanager in an armhf kit for device? e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/force-authentication-parameter/+merge/234015
[09:13] <popey> i get this /tmp/force-authentication-parameter/src/plugin/folderlistmodel/dirmodel.cpp:45:41: fatal error: taglib/attachedpictureframe.h: No such file or directory #include <taglib/attachedpictureframe.h>
[09:14] <dpm_> popey, you'll need to do this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/trunk/view/head:/README#L31
[09:16] <popey> oh good spot!
[09:16] <popey> ta
[09:16] <dpm_> np
[09:19] <dpm_> zbenjamin, also, when I press the play button on an emulator kit, it launches the emulator, which is great. However, the emulator then shows a password prompt which I cannot get past. I've tried 'phablet', 'ubuntu' and no password, but no success. I'm guessing this is related to developer mode - is there any switch in QtC which allows me to get past this authentication dialog? -> http://i.imgur.com/6wVJ1m0.png
[09:20] <zbenjamin> dpm_: uh
[09:20] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: do you know the default password for the emulator?
[09:21] <zbenjamin> dpm_: try 0000
[09:22] <dpm_> zbenjamin, that worked, thanks, but developers will have a hard time figuring it out. Where does this password prompt comes from? it seems to be different than the standard locking screen
[09:23] <zbenjamin> dpm_: thats the new default behaviour if you want to enable developer mode on your phone
[09:23] <zbenjamin> dpm_: its the same on the phone, you are forced to set a pw or you cannot enable dev mode
[09:23] <zbenjamin> dpm_: and i don't like it either
[09:23] <dpm_> zbenjamin, right, but I've done it on the phone, but it's different
[09:23] <dpm_> it uses the regular locking screen
[09:24] <zbenjamin> dpm_: for me it looks exactly the same on the phone
[09:24] <zbenjamin> dpm_: probably it looks different if you set up a code instead of a password
[09:24] <dpm_> zbenjamin, ah, that might be it, I've got a code. Let me try to switch to password
[09:30] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  dude :) we set it
[09:31] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  0000
[09:31] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: do we? ;)
[09:31] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  yes
[09:32] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  wait a sec ... no
[09:33] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I was wrong... we do not set it
[09:33] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: duuuude ;)
[09:34] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I know.. I am stupid, like very very
[09:54] <dpm_> bzoltan, is there a way to set the password from QtC and send it to the emulator, so that the prompt effectively goes away?
[09:55] <dpm_> I remember there being a discussion on the mailing list and I thought we had reached a conclusion on how to set the password
[09:55] <bzoltan> dpm_: for the device flasher it is possible
[09:56] <bzoltan> dpm_: But the `ubuntu-emulator create` does not take password parameter.
[09:56] <bzoltan> dpm: But I know what you need... a sec
[09:59] <bzoltan> dpm: what we need here is this -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8371134/
[10:00] <bzoltan> dpm_: zbenjamin: disable the intro, the welcome setup, and move away the lock screen
[10:01] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: ugh
[10:02] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  well... that is what we need.
[10:02] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: there is a sudo in it
[10:02] <nik90> bzoltan: yes that would be nice
[10:02] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: echo 0000|sudo -S
[10:02] <zbenjamin> ah
[10:02] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  we can not do better
[10:03] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  it is ugly like hell... but what options we have?
[10:03] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: we could put that into the launcher i guess
[10:03] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  yes
[10:04] <dpm> bzoltan, do you think it's worth having a discussion on possible solutions on the phone mailing list, or have you had that conversation already?
[10:04] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  need to be tested properly  maybe the full 4 lines is overkill :)
[10:05] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: its ugly that the powerd-cli does not exit
[10:05] <bzoltan> dpm_: I have talked about this problem with the CI folks but only in the context of auto provisioning real devices. Where I had exactly the same issue. But there I flash with the --password ${PASSWORD}
[10:05] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  maybe we can live without powerd-cli ... does the emulator ever dimm
[10:07] <zbenjamin> i don't think so
[10:08] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  so we can loose the first two lines
[10:09] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I am hungry ... I go to hunt
[10:09] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: good luck
[10:16] <dpm> thanks bzoltan
[10:25] <nik90> gventuri_: I removed the "-" selection state. Do you want to test or should I go ahead and get a code review and merge?
[10:25] <gventuri_> nik90: let's test
[10:25] <nik90> gventuri_: ok, 5 sec. I will update the click in dropbox
[10:26] <gventuri_> nik90: cheers
[10:27] <popey> Elleo: if you made a an unconfined version of your spotify app any time soon, I would buy you beer the next time I see you.
[10:27] <popey> Just saying ㋛
[10:33] <nik90> t1mp: based on your comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1370146/comments/4, should I wait for it to land in the SDK or merge my MP?
[10:33] <nik90> t1mp: it just got design signed off :)
[10:34] <Elleo> popey: yeah, sorry, it's been something I've been meaning to do; but I need to fix some issues with it using the latest SDK first too
[10:34] <Elleo> popey: something broke in the past year so the listview no longer displays entries properly, but I haven't had time to dig into it
[10:36] <t1mp> nik90: better land it. I can use it as an example, and it will be easy later to switch to the uitk version
[10:36] <nik90> ok
[10:37] <t1mp> including the time to run all our tests and land a new uitk it can take weeks
[10:37] <t1mp> nik90: ^
[10:37] <nik90> ack :)
[10:41] <popey> Elleo: bummer.
[10:41] <popey> Elleo: no popey pressure
[10:44] <Elleo> heh
[10:57] <dpm> davmor2, have you seen this issue? (I'm using N4, ubuntu-rtm/develp-proposed) 1. Open dialer, 2. Click on settings, 3. Click on the back arrow on the header, 4. You get stuck in system settings: neither Launcher or right edge works
[10:59] <davmor2> dpm: works fine on krillin I can check on n4 after for you
[11:06] <dpm> davmor2, thanks, nothing urgent or anything, I thought I'd double-check before reporting a bug
[11:23] <mihir> nik90: ping, when you get time can you just merge with trunk and let Jenkins runs ?
[11:23] <nik90> mihir: sure
[11:23] <mihir> nik90: thanks, i am at work otherwise would have done that :) else will do it tonight
[11:24] <nik90> ok
[11:24] <mihir> nik90: also, can you do the code review whenever you get time :) i'll speak to kunal today in meeting to review this MR
[11:24] <nik90> mihir: I plan on attending the meeting as well
[11:25] <mihir> nik90: that's great :)
[11:25] <nik90> :)
[11:35] <nik90> rpadovani or t1mp: If you some time to spare, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/improved-multiselectmode/+merge/234992. Just a code review would be sufficient since we have tested it extensively already.
[11:37]  * nik90 reviews dpm's branch
[11:43] <nik90> zbenjamin: can you help us fix https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot-desktop-i18n/+merge/230582. dpm proposed it to ensure that the desktop file is translatable. The MP modifies the desktop file location and the cmake file. Running it via qtcreator produced "Error: could not find ubuntu-clock-app.desktop"
[12:00] <mihir> nik90: i did comment on MR :)
[12:00] <mihir> i meant your MR
[12:00] <nik90> mihir: thnx :)
[12:33] <nik90> mihir: I am making one more nice little UI fix in a separate branch...until I push its a surprise :-)
[12:35] <popey> hah
[12:35] <popey> is it "sync with microsoft outlook"? ☻
[12:35] <nik90> popey: UI fix :)
[12:35] <popey> nik90: I have to go out early this evening so will miss out 17:30 meeting. Either I can ask mhall119 to cover (if he's around) or we can move to tomorrow or later in the evening when I'm back (~20:30 my time onwards)
[12:36] <nik90> popey: I am cool with whatever you propose :)
[12:36] <popey> ok, lets catch up later today then, I'll ping you when I'm back
[12:38] <nik90> ok
[12:38] <nik90> telegram me if required :P
[12:38] <popey> thanks!
[12:38] <popey> haha
[12:38] <popey> ☻
[12:46] <zbenjamin> nik90: your manifest file says the desktop file can be found at share/applications/ubuntu-clock-app.desktop  but it is installed into /share in the click package
[12:46] <zbenjamin> nik90: thats a bug in the buildfiles
[12:46] <nik90> zbenjamin: ah
[12:48] <zbenjamin> nik90: easy to fix , just put<EMAIL_ADDRESS>into the manifest
[12:48] <nik90> zbenjamin: but isn't share/applications/ubuntu-clock-app.desktop the correct location?
[12:49] <nik90> zbenjamin: I imagine the deb package would like to install it in /usr/share/applications
[12:49] <zbenjamin> nik90: the correct location is where the manifest points to
[12:49] <zbenjamin> nik90: the point is the path in the manifest file needs to be correct, the click package does n to care where it is installed to
[12:50] <nik90> ok
[12:51] <nik90> thnx :)
[12:58] <mihir> nik90: don't keep secret among us , hehehe :P
[12:59] <mihir> popey: are we postponing meeting?
[12:59] <mihir> nik90: ^^
[12:59] <popey> mihir: no
[12:59] <popey> 20 seconds left !
[12:59] <nik90> mihir: he was talking about the clock meeting
[12:59] <nik90> lol
[13:00] <mihir> oops, got confuse , nik90  is everywhere ;) hahaha
[13:00] <popey> mihir: you're not in -meeting though ☻
[13:00]  * mihir joins
[13:16] <popey> bfiller: is Ugo about? can he update https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-translations-with-arg/+merge/232903 when he has a chance?
[14:10] <ahayzen> popey, sorry for not being in the meeting earlier, all i'll say is "freshers week" ;) ... what did i miss? I saw there is a design doc now?
[14:11] <popey> ahayzen: no problem, am on a call right now...
[14:16] <balloons> ahayzen, ahaha.. freshers week
[14:16] <ahayzen> balloons, yey lets drink loads of alcohol until some silly hour in the morning :)
[14:27] <dholbach> mhall119, can you help me with bug 1369803?
[14:47] <ahayzen> balloons, ooo weather py3 just passed :)
[14:47] <balloons> ahayzen, all core apps are now python3 :-)
[14:47] <ahayzen> \o/
[14:47] <balloons> ahayzen, but doc-viewer and sudoku still need converted
[14:48] <balloons> I just approved weather :-)
[14:48] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks :)
[14:50] <balloons> want to do sudoku?
[14:55]  * popey hugs ahayzen and bfiller
[14:55] <popey> and balloons
[14:57]  * balloons checks sudoku again.. I think I'm crazy and it's already done
[14:58] <ahayzen> balloons, what is the status of this? https://code.launchpad.net/~fcole90/ubuntu-docviewer-app/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+merge/234438
[14:59] <ahayzen> balloons, it looks like the autolanding tried to use py3 and the CI was using py2?
[14:59] <balloons> ahayzen, we missed the cutoff to slide in under py2, so fabio will have to re-add py3 again ;-)
[14:59] <ahayzen> balloons, oh u just commented :P
[14:59] <balloons> I feel bad
[15:00] <ahayzen> balloons, :( well at least then *everything* will be py3 :)
[15:00] <balloons> yes
[15:00] <balloons> huzzah
[15:00] <ahayzen> \o/
[15:06] <nik90> zbenjamin: for the https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot-desktop-i18n/+merge/230582, does http://paste.ubuntu.com/8372904/ look good?
[15:06] <nik90> zbenjamin: this way we don't change much to what was there before
[15:07] <zbenjamin> nik90: sure
[15:07] <zbenjamin> nik90: if it works with click then its ok anyway, you just need to verify the click package comes out right
[15:07] <nik90> zbenjamin: well qtc runs the app properly on the emulator. I just wanted to make sure the debian packaging stays intact as well :)
[15:08] <t1mp> zsombi: still around?
[15:08] <nik90> zbenjamin: I checked the .sdk-emulator-deploy folder and it is as expected
[15:08] <zsombi> t1mp: not for long
[15:08] <nik90> dpm: I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot-desktop-i18n/+merge/230582. It is almost good to go
[15:09] <t1mp> zsombi: hmm.. long enough for a small review? https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/10-ap-wait_for_animation/+merge/235146
[15:09] <t1mp> zsombi: can do it tomorrow also if that suits you better
[15:10] <zsombi> t1mp: looks pretty simple
[15:10] <t1mp> zsombi: yes, doesn't really do anything, but with this we can add header.wait_for_animation() to the apps already
[15:11] <zsombi> t1mp: looks good, happroving
[15:12] <t1mp> zsombi: great, thanks!
[15:14] <nik90> davmor2: hey, you around?
[15:16] <davmor2> nik90: I am
[15:16] <nik90> davmor2: can you help confirming bug 1364088 again pls with rtm 43
[15:16] <nik90> davmor2: charles can't reproduce it...and I am testing it again now
[15:16] <renato___> dpm, could you help me? I do not know what is happening. I am trying to do a address-book-app release and I getting a tons of changes on "*.po" which is not related with my MR
[15:16] <davmor2> nik90: see #ubuntu-touch
[15:17] <nik90> davmor2: :)
[15:17] <renato___> dpm, none of my changes touch on "po" files
[15:17] <renato___> dpm, and the diff is showing that the file "po/az.po" will be removed
[15:18] <charles> davmor2, nik90, I have an alarm due to dismiss at :25 so I'll report back then
[15:19] <renato___> dpm, I do not know how to solve it
[15:27] <charles> davmor2, nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1364088/comments/1
[15:27] <nik90> charles: I need another 3 mins to finish testing :)
[15:30] <nik90> charles: same here it ended correctly after 10 mins
[15:31] <nik90> commented on bug
[16:06] <dpm> nik90, applied your patch, let me know if that's all that was needed
[16:07] <dpm> renato___, sorry, I was otp, can you give me some more context and perhaps point me to the branch where you're seeing those changes? I might need to understand how you do the address-book-app release before I can be of any help
[16:10] <mihir> nik90: ping
[16:10] <nik90> mihir: I am going out now...brb in 1 hour. Talk then?
[16:10] <ahayzen> popey, just submitted the multi file support for content-hub \o/ ... meanwhile for the translations fixes is victor correct with his point in 1) or is it fine as it is? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/fix-1369050-content-hub-fix-translations/+merge/234572
[16:11] <mihir> sure no issues :)
[16:13] <popey> ahayzen: nice one!
[16:13] <nik90> mihir: just remembered I got irc client on phone.. so feel free to just message me
[16:13] <popey> dpm: do you know what we plan to do for Music directory? I assume not translate it?
[16:14] <popey> (guessing it's hardwired in MTP etc)
[16:16] <mihir> nik90: i commented on your MR
[16:16] <mihir> nik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-calendar-app/tweak-event-color/+merge/235137/comments/575012
[16:16] <dpm> popey, I think it was, let me double-check. I think if it still is, it will be hardwired for a while, but it'll probably be translated when we have a converged desktop
[16:16] <mihir> otherwise , it works great :)
[16:16] <dpm> if we're still using file managers by then :)
[16:17] <popey> lolz
[16:23] <dpm> bfiller, I've got some other i18n MRs, I think they should be the last ones to close that bug about the app names not being localized:
[16:23] <dpm> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/notes-app/notes-app-desktop-translations/+merge/223233
[16:23] <dpm> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/gallery-app-desktop-translations/+merge/222847
[16:23] <dpm> bfiller, do you think someone in your team could review them?
[16:26] <bfiller> dpm: ok
[16:26] <ahayzen> popey, so does that mean we leave it fixed for now?
[16:26] <dpm> great, thanks bfiller
[16:29] <popey> yes ahayzen
[16:29]  * popey goes afk for some hours
[16:29] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:38] <dpm> popey, ahayzen, does this branch mean the content hub is getting multiple file import and the music app only needs to adapt to support that? -> lp:~andrew-hayzen/music-app/content-hub-multi-file
[16:39] <ahayzen> dpm, content-hub already supports multi file...just we in the music-app would only process the first..now we'll accept as many as you like coming in one bundle
[16:40] <ahayzen> dpm, should help with bug 1368648 and bug 1365993
[16:41] <dpm> ahayzen, yeah, that's why I was asking, thanks for clarifying!
[16:41] <ahayzen> dpm, we'll still need content-hub to extract the zip and send the files in a 'bundle' to us...but our end is basically there (assuming it is approved)
[16:42] <dpm> excellent
[16:42] <dpm> kenvandine, I've not followed that one up in a while - is there a plan for content-hub to extract .zip files from 7digital, so that they can be fed to the music app?
[16:43] <ahayzen> dpm, when i last spoke with people this comment was basically going to be the plan https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1365993/comments/6
[16:43] <ahayzen> dpm, but i'm sure kenvandine knows more about the situation than i do ;)
[16:44] <dpm> cool, thanks :)
[16:44] <kenvandine> dpm, sergiusens is doing the download manager work
[16:44] <kenvandine> shouldn't actually require any changes to content-hub
[16:44] <kenvandine> and Elleo is doing the browser work
[16:45] <dpm> ah, nice
[16:46] <Elleo> sergiusens: on the topic of that 7digital thing, I was thinking just having a property on SingleDownload "requestExtraction" or something could do the trick as far as any extra API for browser integration goes (unless you'd rather just automatically extract anything that's compressed?) what're your thoughts?
[16:48] <Elleo> sergiusens: having an explicit property that says whether to extract or not might be more flexible though, as there could be some future app that wants to keep compressed things as zip files or something
[17:43] <nik90> mihir: you htere?
[17:43] <nik90> there?
[18:17] <nik90> Ain't this pretty -> https://i.imgur.com/zlXeX9l.png
[18:19] <davmor2> SHIP IT!
[18:20] <nik90> davmor2: patience my friend...all good things take time to ship :P
[18:20] <nik90> davmor2: btw does striking out the labels for past events look good?
[18:21] <nik90> atm I made past events lighter, made the font italic and striked it out
[18:21] <davmor2> nik90: hahahaha
[18:24] <nik90> balloons: I need your help debugging why jenkins is failing https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot-desktop-i18n/+merge/230582
[18:24] <nik90> balloons: its a harmless merge which only adds translation support for desktop files
[18:24] <balloons> nik90, sure thing
[18:25] <nik90> the log is a bit cryptic
[18:25] <balloons> nik90, mwahaha
[18:25] <balloons> ok, I know the issue
[18:26] <balloons> let me resolve it
[18:26] <balloons> nik90, actually I think I can do you one better. I think I can land it without making you wait for me to fix
[18:27] <nik90> hehe
[18:27] <nik90> so what's the issue though?
[18:27] <nik90> and does it apply across all MPs?
[18:27] <balloons> yes, the autolanding job
[18:27] <balloons> just for you though :-) aka clock
[18:29] <nik90> :-)
[18:54] <mihir> nik90: hi
[18:54] <nik90> mihir: hi
[18:54] <nik90> mihir: how's https://imgur.com/zlXeX9l
[18:54] <nik90> mihir: I removed the opacity but reduced the brightness of the color, striked out the title and made it italic for past events
[18:54] <mihir> nik90: WoW :D
[18:55] <mihir> this looks good :)
[18:55] <nik90> mihir: :)
[18:55] <nik90> mihir: btw I found a visual regression in our viewdesign branch
[18:55] <mihir> nik90: did you mentioned over there?
[18:55] <nik90> mihir: in the screenshot I linked, look at the event in the bottom left..it seems cut of for no reason
[18:55] <nik90> mihir: no I haven't
[18:55] <nik90> mihir: I am looking for a fix
[18:56] <mihir> nik90: hmm , i believe it is again that margins
[18:57] <nik90> mihir: well this time it is something to do with the bottom margin. let me check
[19:01] <mihir> nik90: thre?
[19:01] <nik90> yes
[19:01] <mihir> nik90: on your branch , i was trying diff cal color , with this it looks lesss readable,  http://i.imgur.com/73aZQSD.png
[19:02] <nik90> yeah I am planning to change the colors we provide to fix that
[19:02] <ahoneybun> yay a RTM image!
[19:02] <mihir> nik90: we can put colors which is more visible with this design  as it is not connected to google calendar as well
[19:02] <nik90> mihir: exactly
[19:03] <ahoneybun> that is a really hard to read yello nik90
[19:03] <nik90> ahoneybun: yup
[19:04] <nik90> mihir: yellow is the only trouble color right?
[19:04] <nik90> mihir: all the other colors should work
[19:05] <mihir> nik90: yes , yellow is the problem , either we can make darker yellow then it should work
[19:05] <nik90> mihir: should be an easy fix
[19:05] <ahoneybun> nik90: maybe pick a darker yellow like the yellow they use on REAL notepads?
[19:06] <nik90> ahoneybun: you got a hex code we can use
[19:06] <mihir> yeah, just noticed so informed :)
[19:06] <mihir> nik90: #FFFF00
[19:06] <mihir> nik90: http://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/Yellow_Color.htm
[19:07] <nik90> mihir: isn't that bright yellow
[19:08] <mihir> nik90: how about this , #FF9912	 ?
[19:09] <nik90> yeah that might be ok
[19:13] <ahoneybun> nik90: should I still look for the code?
[19:13] <nik90> ahoneybun: ur call
[19:13] <mihir> ahoneybun: sure , opinion would be great
[19:13] <mihir> nik90: just push that code , i'll re-test and approv before i go to sleep
[19:14] <nik90> mihir: no hurry, it can go tomorrow
[19:14] <ahoneybun> mihir: nik90 let me grab that ss and add my color, e8d139
[19:14] <nik90> mihir: I want to make one more fix before that gets merged
[19:14] <mihir> nik90: okay no issues,
[19:14] <mihir> i am making change in color popup, would you mind if i do saperate branch ?
[19:14] <mihir> nik90: it is trivial, or you can add in yours as well :)
[19:15] <nik90> mihir: I was about to fix the color popup height
[19:15] <ahoneybun> nik90: I need to upload it to a img host give me a min
[19:15] <nik90> mihir: go ahead and propose it, we can then merge yours to trunk first if you so wish
[19:16] <nik90> ahoneybun: sure, no hurry
[19:16] <ahoneybun> nik90: http://s13.postimg.org/nm0ewko3r/73a_ZQSD.png
[19:16] <mihir> nik90: how about this , http://i.imgur.com/SlBsl8A.png ?
[19:16] <ahoneybun> kinda crap box but still
[19:17] <ahoneybun> that yellow might look great mihir
[19:17] <nik90> mihir: looks better. can you also fix the height as well then
[19:17] <nik90> mihir: atm it is hardcoded to 100 gu units which is incorrect
[19:18] <ahoneybun> mihir: this is the color from your new image http://s1.postimg.org/o7ah4jer3/73a_ZQSD.png
[19:18] <mihir> ahoneybun: yeah , it looks better
[19:18] <mihir> nik90: it has to be parent.height right ?
[19:19] <nik90> ahoneybun: looks better
[19:19] <nik90> mihir: no
[19:19] <ahoneybun> yay!
[19:19] <nik90> mihir: it should have no height
[19:19] <nik90> mihir: dialog will automatically calculate its height
[19:19] <nik90> atleast that's what I think
[19:20] <ahoneybun> mihir: nik90 if anyone needs some help with gimp or design ideas, I'm more then happy to help!
[19:20] <mihir> nik90: okay , let me propose
[19:20] <nik90> ahoneybun: awesome..thnx for your support ahoneybun
[19:20] <nik90> ahoneybun: pretty sure we will need help
[19:21] <mihir> ahoneybun: sure, that would be great..
[19:21] <mihir> ahoneybun: how about you can come of some design for EventDetails ?
[19:21] <ahoneybun> nik90: np thats why I'm here, btw I'm getting a Nexus 4 on saturday so if you need a tester as well
[19:21] <nik90> ahoneybun: sweet
[19:21] <nik90> ahoneybun: also what mihir said ^^
[19:21] <ahoneybun> nik90: for tablet and phone or what?
[19:22] <mihir> ahoneybun: as of now , tablet
[19:22] <nik90> ahoneybun: we are thinking of revamping the event details page
[19:22] <nik90> mihir: eh?
[19:22] <nik90> for phone
[19:22] <ahoneybun> ok just shoot me your designs if you have any and I'll take a look
[19:22] <ahoneybun> or just a ss of the main calendar
[19:23] <mihir> nik90: sorry , for phone hehehe
[19:23] <ahoneybun> wait I have 14.10 so I could add a ppa with or what not
[19:23] <nik90> ahoneybun: on your desktop?
[19:23] <ahoneybun> yes nik90
[19:23] <ahoneybun> rocking great so far
[19:24] <mihir> nik90: how can i make ubuntushape round ?
[19:24]  * ahoneybun got a nexus 4 just for ubuntu touch
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: round as in a circle?
[19:24] <ahoneybun> nik90: round corners
[19:24] <mihir> nik90: yup , or we have to use Rectange + radius ?
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: you can only increases the radius from "small" to "medium"
[19:24] <mihir> nik90: yeah i saw that in doc, was wondering if there is anyway...
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: if you want circle, you need to use rectangle
[19:25] <nik90> ahoneybun: basically we are looking for design ideas. So for instance we want to revamp the event-details page. So it would be great if you can come up with somem mockups
[19:25] <nik90> and me and mihir will try to implement it and give our feedback
[19:26] <ahoneybun> ok nik90 can you throw me some ss of the current way we are handling event-details?
[19:26] <ahoneybun> *ss = screenshots
[19:26] <nik90> ahoneybun: ah sure
[19:26] <nik90> one sec
[19:26] <ahoneybun> ok
[19:27] <nik90> ahoneybun: https://imgur.com/9gS2off
[19:28] <nik90> ahoneybun: https://imgur.com/svrw8i5
[19:29] <ahoneybun> nik90: so when you click the event on the calendar that page comes up?
[19:29] <nik90> ahoneybun: yup
[19:30] <ahoneybun> ok I'll look at some other designs, I remember seeing a svg with a lot of ubuntu ui elements
[19:30] <balloons> nik90, I left a comment on the mp. Trying to get someone to have a look at the job.. The trouble is it's a bug in phablet-tools
[19:30] <nik90> balloons: cool. thnx for looking into it.
[19:31] <nik90> balloons: would I be able to do a clock release tomorrow?
[19:31] <ahoneybun> nik90: there are color codes for different type of events in the calendar right?
[19:31] <nik90> ahoneybun: yes
[19:31] <nik90> ahoneybun: they look like https://imgur.com/zlXeX9l
[19:32] <balloons> nik90, it's definitely due, been awhile
[19:32] <nik90> balloons: but I need to merge 2-3 MPs before I can release though
[19:32] <nik90> balloons: design fixes essentially
[19:34] <ahoneybun> nik90: working on it :)
[19:34] <nik90> ahoneybun: yay..thnx
[19:34]  * mihir push the change
[19:34] <mihir> ahoneybun: thanks :)
[19:34] <mihir> ahoneybun: let us know if you need any feedback , inputs or help
[19:34] <ahoneybun> will do
[19:36] <mihir> nik90: https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/ColorPopUpModify/+merge/235205
[19:37] <nik90> mihir: screenie pls
[19:38] <nik90> mihir: I found the issue with the regression I told you
[19:38] <mihir> nik90: it is same as previous change , still http://imgur.com/L1c3vtu
[19:38] <mihir> nik90: the edge cut off?
[19:39] <nik90> mihir: In TimeLineBaseComponent.qml you set the flickable height to parent.height - allDayContainer.height
[19:39] <nik90> mihir: however in some days the addDayContainer is not shown...and that was the issue
[19:39] <nik90> mihir: how are you hiding the AllDayContainer on some days?
[19:40] <mihir> nik90: it is coming from that file only, we check if there are any events then make it visible else hide it
[19:41] <nik90> mihir: do you hide it in AllDayContainer.qml or in TimeLineBaseComponent.qml ?
[19:41] <nik90> mihir: because when you hide it, the flickable height should be parent.height instead of parent.height - allDayContainer.height
[19:41] <mihir> in AllDayEvent , otherwise we have to execute same redudent code here i guess
[19:41] <nik90> mihir: rest assured I will fix it
[19:43] <mihir> nik90: so either we can use that function to define weather we have all day events , then make it visible and and adjust height accordingly
[19:43] <nik90> mihir: yup I am doing it atm
[19:45] <mihir> nik90: okay, great :)
[19:51] <mihir> nik90: how about this, http://i.imgur.com/d6jmNbG.png
[19:51] <mihir> ?
[19:51] <ahoneybun> nik90: http://s8.postimg.org/i9homkcnp/Event_Details_Design.png
[19:51] <nik90> mihir: circle looks better imo
[19:52] <nik90> ahoneybun: the guest list can be long sometimes, how would that fit?
[19:52] <ahoneybun> nik90: true let me fix
[19:53] <mihir> nik90: final one , http://imgur.com/UZenX3h reduce space inbetween
[19:53] <nik90> ahoneybun: do we need to specify start: and end:. Cant it be just 13:00-14:00 ?
[19:53] <nik90> mihir: its not centered horizontally in the dialog
[19:54] <mihir> ahoneybun: it looks better :)
[19:54] <nik90> mihir: also since we know the exact amount of colors, can't we assign it 2 rows and 4 columns? and reduce the grid height a bit
[19:55] <nik90> mihir: too much vertical space imo
[19:55] <nik90> of the dialog I mean
[20:02] <ahoneybun> http://s16.postimg.org/yz9zu6dnp/Event_Details_Design2.png
[20:04] <mihir> ahoneybun: hmm , looks good nik90 ^^
[20:04] <ahoneybun> mihir: sad to say I dont know how to make round boxes in gimp though ;(
[20:05] <nik90> ahoneybun: the overview looks good, but you need to specific about which font-weight we should use, the text being left-centered and so on.
[20:05] <nik90> ahoneybun: the revamp will only happen next week (most likely)
[20:06] <nik90> ahoneybun: you get the next few days time to polish the mockup and specify those details
[20:06] <ahoneybun> nik90: I think the text should be centered no?
[20:07] <nik90> I am not sure, I will have to implement and check how it looks on device
[20:07] <mihir> ahoneybun: take few days to brainstrome the design
[20:07] <ahoneybun> mihir: will do
[20:07] <ahoneybun> I'm doing research on current designs
[20:08] <mihir> ahoneybun: propose and we'll try to convert that , and see how does it looks.
[20:08] <nik90> ahoneybun: also we need to maintain compatibility with rest of the calendar app pages
[20:08] <mihir> nik90: pushed the code
[20:08] <ahoneybun> mihir: not sure how to propose other then it has to do with lp
[20:09] <mihir> nik90: this should give me grid in center, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8374780/
[20:09] <mihir> is that correct?
[20:09]  * mihir get nuts with anchoring in qml :( heheh
[20:10] <nik90> I would expect so
[20:10] <mihir> ahoneybun: i'll file bug , you can provide your inputs there befoe we start implementing it.
[20:10] <nik90> mihir: anchor is the best thing ever in qml..so much better than width and height :D
[20:10] <ahoneybun> mihir: ok will do
[20:10] <mihir> nik90: i know it is best, but i still get stuck and confused sometimes..
[20:11] <nik90> ahoneybun: also feel free to take inspirations from other mobile apps
[20:12] <ahoneybun> nik90: yea I was trying to find images of google cal and apple ones
[20:12] <nik90> ahoneybun: +
[20:14] <ahoneybun> nik90: mihir still working on i
[20:14] <ahoneybun> *ity
[20:15] <mihir> nik90: i have pushed so you can review that MR.
[20:16] <nik90> mihir: sec, I am testing the fix to the visual regression in our visual redesign branch
[20:16] <mihir> nik90: okay
[20:16] <nik90> mihir: btw the all days events are not shown in the week view
[20:16] <nik90> mihir: did you know about that issue?
[20:17] <mihir> ahh, didn't get that..
[20:17] <nik90> mihir: it shows in the day view when appropriate
[20:17] <mihir> nik90: it behaves same as in weekview as well ain't it ?
[20:18] <nik90> mihir: well I created an all day event on sep 15. It shows up in the day view on sep 15. but in week view I don't see it at all
[20:19] <ahoneybun> nik90: mihir http://s7.postimg.org/ywfyvbesb/Event_Details_Design3.png
[20:19] <nik90> mihir: I pushed my fix
[20:21] <nik90> mihir: testing your color popup mp
[20:23] <mihir> ahoneybun: how about accomodating time inside the first box,
[20:23] <mihir> so i can get all info at one go ?
[20:23] <mihir> to be precices , All Primary info ?
[20:24] <ahoneybun> inside the Blood Work box mihir ?
[20:24] <mihir> hmm yup
[20:24] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:27] <mihir> nik90: i pulled , again the all day event bar in weekview is random , i believe
[20:27] <nik90> mihir: random?
[20:27] <mihir> and btw, nik90 there is bug if you create all day event , it creates on previous day
[20:29] <mihir> nik90: so i have all day events on 14th
[20:29] <mihir> http://i.imgur.com/ncbYiu5.png
[20:30] <mihir> nik90: it doesn't show on weekview http://i.imgur.com/qbKJfT7.png
[20:30] <mihir> nik90: but i have an event on 13th and it shows in both view , http://imgur.com/HnuAczf
[20:32] <ahoneybun> mihir: coming at you, http://s29.postimg.org/b55xclsnr/Event_Details_Design4.png
[20:34] <nik90> mihir: then we might need to revert the hiding of all day events :/ since it is high priority bug to have all days events not being shown in week view
[20:34] <balloons> nik90, landing is re-running, I left comments on the mp
[20:34]  * nik90 looks
[20:34] <mihir> hmmm nik90 , so lets don't hide as of now we'll take that look at that later one
[20:34] <nik90> yup
[20:35] <nik90> balloons: the tests are still being run before autolanding?
[20:37] <balloons> nik90, yep, on the device
[20:37] <balloons> it's not that kind of hack, heh
[20:37] <mihir_> ahoneybun: something like this , http://imgur.com/WKXEgzQ
[20:37] <nik90> balloons: ok :-)
[20:38] <mihir_> so i get all primary info from top :)
[20:41] <ahoneybun> got it mihir_
[20:42] <mihir_> ahoneybun: :) thatz how i was planning to re-design..
[20:47] <ahoneybun> mihir_: http://s27.postimg.org/6kalzpt0j/Event_Details_Design5.png
[20:47] <mihir_> ahoneybun: nice better, can you work on fonts size and all ? take your time no hurry
[20:48] <ahoneybun> mihir_: yea I was trying I'm using gimp and I don't know the tools to align fonts and such
[20:51] <mihir_> nik90: you pushing code for hiding all day events events ?
[20:51] <nik90> mihir_: sec, I might have fixed it
[20:52] <mihir_> nik90: ohh, okay :)
[20:54] <balloons> nik90, ok, tests ran but returned unstabled
[20:54] <balloons> bah timeouts
[20:56]  * nik90 grabs a really later dinner
[20:56] <nik90> brb in 15 mins
[20:56] <ahoneybun> mihir_: http://s24.postimg.org/vvjq278r9/Event_Details_Design6.png
[20:57]  * ahoneybun grabs some food as well
[20:57] <mihir_> nik90: i may off to bed , will chekc your inputs/fix tomorrow
[20:57] <nik90> mihir_: ok
[20:57] <mihir_> ahoneybun: :)
[20:57] <nik90> gnite
[20:57] <mihir_> nik90: gnite :)
[20:58] <mihir_> just leave your comments on colorpopup if any
[20:58] <mihir_> i forgot to push in ubuntu-cal-dev
[20:59] <ahoneybun> mihir_: you like it>
[20:59] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:59] <mihir_> ahoneybun: yeah :)
[21:00] <ahoneybun> good
[21:00] <ahoneybun> mihir_: want the gimp file?
[21:00] <mihir_> ahoneybun: no need as of now.
[21:01] <mihir_> i believe , lets get other people inputs and can always make it better
[21:01] <ahoneybun> ok yea we can always improve it
[21:02] <mihir_> also, if you can come up with new that will be again awesome.
[21:02] <ahoneybun> with new?
[21:02] <mihir_> ahoneybun: hey , i'll be off to bed, you can get in touch with nik90 if you need any info..see you tomorrow
[21:02] <ahoneybun> new calendar event?
[21:06]  * ahoneybun could really use some lp karma points for his designs lol
[21:19] <balloons> mmm.. karma is yummy
[21:54] <renato___> nik90, I can confirm that, the alarm is not working for me
[21:54] <nik90> renato___: even after the all the EDS files being deleted?
[21:55] <renato___> nik90, I am not sure if it stop to work after a flash of even before that
[21:55] <nik90> renato___: can you paste your task.ics file perhaps.
[21:55] <renato___> nik90, yes I did a flash with wipe
[21:55] <renato___> and works on the first day
[21:55] <nik90> hmm not sure
[21:55] <renato___> but is not working anymore
[21:55] <renato___> I can see the alarm on the app, but there is nothing in the indicator
[21:56] <nik90> interesting..may be since I keep reflashing phone I don't notice it
[21:56] <nik90> I will test it this weekend to confirm
[21:56] <renato___> nik90, are you flashing with "wipe" ?
[21:56] <nik90> renato___: no
[21:57] <renato___> and is working for you?
[21:57] <nik90> renato___: yeah it works fine for me everyday
[21:57] <renato___> strange
[21:57] <renato___> for sure is not working for me
[21:57] <renato___> it is not the first
[21:57] <renato___> in fact never works :(
[21:57] <nik90> renato___: so if you create an alarm to ring in the next 2 mins it won't ring?
[21:57] <renato___> let me try tha
[21:57] <renato___> that
[21:58] <renato___> I have only one alarm now for every day at 7 AM
[21:58] <renato___> ok after add a new alarm it appears on the indicator
[21:58] <renato___> but only the new one
[21:59] <nik90> renato___: can you screenshot your alarm page for me
[21:59] <nik90> I want to check if the repeating alarm is saved properly
[21:59] <renato___> sure
[22:00] <renato___> http://imgur.com/IFsx9OS
[22:01] <renato___> this is my indicator: http://imgur.com/nGdvcHX
[22:03] <nik90> that's really strange
[22:04] <nik90> renato___: can you pastebin your task.ics file.
[22:04] <nik90> I will check with charles why it doesn't appear in the indicator
[22:05] <renato___> nik90, well very strange
[22:05] <renato___> I have two folders in my task dir
[22:05] <renato___> drwx------ 2 root   root   4096 Jul 17 15:52<PHONE_NUMBER>.14685.0@ubuntu
[22:05] <renato___> drwx------ 2 renato renato 4096 Jul 17 15:58<PHONE_NUMBER>.1119.0@ubuntu
[22:05] <renato___> this looks wrong
[22:05] <charles> hurm
[22:05] <nik90> yeah why
[22:06] <nik90> that could be why
[22:06] <renato___> hi charles
[22:06] <charles> renato___, ~/.config/evolution/sources will tell you which one evolution thinks is the "right" one
[22:06] <charles> hi renato___
[22:06] <charles> renato___, you need more underscores in your name
[22:06] <nik90> :)
[22:06] <renato___> :D
[22:07] <renato___> why I have this folder with root as owner
[22:07] <renato___> I can not even go inside of it
[22:07] <charles> renato, I don't know
[22:08] <charles> I haven't seen that before
[22:08] <charles> just thinking out loud, maybe if you removed configuration files while evolution was still running
[22:08] <renato___> I flashed my device with --wipe some days ago
[22:08] <renato___> but for sure I did not change anything in eds folder manually
[22:09] <renato___> and I only have that on task folder
[22:10] <renato___> -rw------- 1 root   root    117 May 16 15:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:10] <renato___> I have the same folder in my sources folder
[22:12] <charles> renato___, which tasks.ics has the recurring 9:00 alarm? the one  in 14002* or the one in 14029*
[22:12] <renato___> let me check
[22:14] <renato___> charles, nik90, forget about the folders :D, I was looking in my desktop
[22:14] <renato___> :D
[22:14] <renato___> sorry
[22:14] <renato___> :D
[22:14] <nik90> lol
[22:14] <charles> XD
[22:15] <renato___> let me get the tasks.ics
[22:15] <renato___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375422/
[22:15] <renato___> charles, nik90, ^^
[22:16] <renato___> charles, is that correct?
[22:18] <charles> let's see what happens if I throw that onto my phone and restart evolution + the indicator
[22:18] <nik90> renato___: let me compare your task.ics with mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375428/
[22:20] <nik90> hmm it looks identical
[22:21] <charles> renato___, nik90, I get the English + 12h version of http://imgur.com/nGdvcHX
[22:22] <charles> I see the 7pm alarm but no recurring alarm
[22:22] <charles> as an aside the timestamp on that alarm would be really hard to read outside
[22:22] <nik90> charles: yup that's the issue
[22:22] <nik90> charles: renato___ 's task.ics is faulty,, why though
[22:25] <nik90> charles, renato___ : not sure if this is related but I noticed today that I create calendar events in the *local* calendar, it shows up as alarms in the indicator.
[22:25] <nik90> charles, renato___: If I create calendar events in the google calendar, they appear correctly as calendar events
[22:26] <renato___> nik90, I am not using the calendar app yet :D
[22:26] <nik90> ah ok
[22:27] <charles> (process:16511): Indicator-Datetime-DEBUG: got appointment from 2014-09-16 09:00:00 to 2014-09-16 09:00:00, uid 20140915T225035Z-20381-32011-1350-1@ubuntu-phablet status 10060
[22:27] <charles> (process:16511): Indicator-Datetime-DEBUG: adding appointment 'Ubuntu' ''
[22:28] <renato___> charles, what that means?
[22:28] <renato___> :D
[22:28] <charles> that's the only instance that shows up
[22:28] <charles> indicator-datetime thinks this alarm has already expired
[22:29] <charles> that's the only instance that comes back when indicator-datetime calls e_cal_client_generate_instances()
[22:30] <charles> instead of 5 instances per week
[22:31] <charles> my first guess is the RRULE's enddate of (time_t)0
[22:32] <charles> second guess is the DUE entry's use of (time_t)-1
[22:32] <charles> I think I'll see what happens if I poke those.
[22:34] <charles> renato___, nik90: yep. If I change X-EVOLUTION-ENDDATE to 2015 instead of 1970, it works
[22:34] <charles> renato___, nik90: now I'll see what happens if we leave it out altogether
[22:37] <charles> renato___, nik90: no good. we have to have an X-EVOLUTION-ENDDATE
[22:38] <renato___> let me try to create a recursive event on evolution
[22:38] <renato___> on desktop
[22:38] <charles> looking at the EDS source now to see what the allowed values of X-EVOLUTION-ENDDATE are, such as a magic value for an endless alarm
[22:40] <renato___> charles, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375540/
[22:40] <renato___> this is a task that I created on eds
[22:41] <renato___> but there is no way to create recursive tasks on evolution
[22:41] <renato___>  as you can see there is no end date field
[22:41] <renato___> can you try remove this field from our task.ics
[22:43] <nik90> renato___: but charles tried removing that field altogether and that didnt work though
[22:43] <renato___> let me try with a event
[22:45] <charles> nope, EDS uses icaltime_from_string(foo) (via icalvalue_new_from_string(ICAL_DATETIME_VALUE, foo) so there are no magic numbers there
[22:46] <charles> ok e_cal_recur_obtain_enddate() requires that enddate if count != 0
[22:47] <charles> we want it where neither COUNT nor UNTIL are set; in this case, it recurs forever \o/
[22:47]  * charles tries that in practice to confirm the code comments
[22:47] <nik90> popey: how's https://imgur.com/zlXeX9l
[22:48] <nik90> popey: lighter, striked out indicates past events
[22:49] <popey> hmm
[22:49] <popey> not sure about strikeout
[22:49] <popey> looks messy
[22:49] <nik90> popey: any better way to distinguish between the two?
[22:50] <nik90> popey: would just making it lighter with italics be sufficient?
[22:50] <popey> dim/shade
[22:50] <popey> i wouldn't change font
[22:50] <popey> see google calendar web interface for an example
[22:50] <popey> they just make it lighter coloured.
[22:50] <popey> no other effect
[22:51] <nik90> I actually at first created it with different opaque values
[22:51] <nik90> however it causes issues when two events occur at the same time
[22:51] <nik90> in the calendar app, they overlap over one other...
[22:51] <popey> yeah, opacity will cause overlapping mess with many calendar items at one time
[22:51] <nik90> popey: this is what it was first https://imgur.com/rPTgb1d
[22:51] <popey> I think just dimming them is fine
[22:52] <nik90> but that causes https://i.imgur.com/nEIXY3y.png
[22:52] <popey> hmm
[22:52] <nik90> ok
[22:52] <nik90> I will try dimming it more
[22:52] <popey> yeah exactly what i expected
[22:52] <popey> dim but not opacity
[22:55] <charles> nik90, renato___: okay the winning recipe is RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY;BYDAY=MO,TU,WE,TH,FR
[22:55] <nik90> charles: :)
[22:56] <nik90> charles: so that requires a fix in the SDK?
[22:56] <charles> I think so, yeah
[22:56] <renato___> or in the eds backend
[22:56] <renato___> I need to check
[22:56] <nik90> ok, I will have to explain all this zsombi
[22:57] <nik90> to zsombi(
[22:57] <renato___> nik90, let me check in eds backend first
[22:57] <nik90> renato___: ok
[22:57] <charles> yeah, it's either in the toolkit or in qt5organizer-eds
[22:57] <charles> I haven't looked at that yet, have been reading http://www.kanzaki.com/docs/ical/rrule.html and testing different combos in tasks.ics :)
[22:59] <renato___> charles, could you try to create a recurence event on evolution and see how it is stored
[22:59] <renato___> my evolution app is not working
[23:03] <charles> renato___, nik90, ok I suspect part of the problem is coming from qtorganizer5-eds's qtorganizer-eds-engine.cpp's QOrganizerEDSEngine::parseRecurrence()
[23:04] <renato___>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtorganizer5-eds/+bug/1371341
[23:04] <charles> there should be logic in there to set rule->count = 0 for unbounded alarms
[23:04] <renato___> should be easy to fix
[23:05] <charles> the default there is to set rule->count = qRule.limitCount()
[23:05] <charles> which I'd bet a Virginia Beer is -1
[23:06] <renato___> :D
[23:06]  * charles digs some more
[23:06] <nik90> renato___: is there any fix I need in the clock app side?
[23:06] <nik90> I am loving this list https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+spec/alarms-rtm
[23:06] <renato___> probably note
[23:06] <renato___> not
[23:07] <charles> http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt-mobility/qorganizerrecurrencerule.html#limitCount
[23:07] <charles> int QOrganizerRecurrenceRule::limitCount () const
[23:07] <charles> Returns the "count" condition specified by the recurrence rule. The default count is -1 (ie. * unlimited)
[23:07] <charles> so we have a semantics difference between QOrganizer and libical here
[23:07] <charles> or rather, with EDS
[23:08] <charles> EDS sees 0 as unlimited, QOrganizer sees -1 as unlimited
[23:09] <charles> I don't understand how this has worked in the past though
[23:09] <charles> we've had recurring alarms work before
[23:09] <renato___> I will fix that tomorrow :D
[23:10] <renato___> charles, thanks for the help
[23:11] <charles> renato___, it was fun to do; you're welcome
[23:11] <renato___> I will pay you a " Virginia Beer" :D
[23:11] <nik90> hehe
[23:12] <charles> even more fun!
[23:13] <renato___> I:D
[23:13] <renato___> I need to go guys
[23:13] <renato___> I will fix that tomorrow
[23:13] <renato___> thanks


[22:59] <gustavo> does anyone know how to convert dvds to ipod format
[22:59] <arbir> gustavo: try handbrake
[22:59] <gustavo> cool thanks
[22:59] <PMantis> Melancholy: Intel 82845G/GL...
[22:59] <ocRob> gustavo: http://tinyurl.com/7sx4wp
[22:59] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble getting bluetooth working on a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop.  I know the dongle works in another machine, and it shows up in lsusb on this one, but still nothing in 'hcitool dev' output.  What can I check next?
[22:59] <kitche> FAJALOU: highly doubt it unless the songs have DRM on them
[22:59] <gustavo> where do i get that handbrake
[23:00] <justizin> Howdy, I'm trying to install Intrepid into a Xen DomU, and for some reason a standard debootstrapped guest fails with 256M of RAM, not sure if it needs all the 512 I bump it to, and people have suggested the alternate installer supposed to require only 128M or 256M.  Is this a known issue, or possible due to my initrd size for Dom0 or somesuch?
[23:00] <FAJALOU> kitche:  and i doubt that:  it's a bunch of monks ;)
[23:00] <justizin> i'm using xen-create-image of course, to be simplest, but also built one by hand.
[23:00] <PMantis> MetaMorfoziS: Go to System --> Preference --> Remote Desktop
[23:00] <arbir> please help me. i am facing this problem http://pastie.org/346776
[23:00] <chris78v> what does it mean when it says html rendering is currently disables
[23:00] <Melancholy> PMantis: same category :)
[23:00] <PMantis> Melancholy: Yup
[23:00] <ocRob> gustavo: http://tinyurl.com/7sx4wp
[23:01] <Promille> hey. is there any program avaiable for analyzing mp3's (i.e. like encspot) ?
[23:01] <chris78v> what does it mean when it says html rendering is currently disabled
[23:01] <arbir> Promille: try audacity
[23:01] <arbir> i am unable to update my packages. please help me http://pastie.org/346776
[23:01] <justizin> Promille: also consider picking through apt-cache search audio
[23:01] <gustavo> thanks let me try
[23:01] <FAJALOU> kitche:  maybe a space issue?
[23:02] <Promille> arbir: thanks =)
[23:02] <ksakjas> trying to boot gparted i get !! Invalid loop location any ideas?
[23:02] <arbir> Promille: you are welcome! merry Xmas
[23:02] <justizin> arbir: what sequence of events led up to this message, say, roughly since the last working upgrade? :)
[23:02] <Promille> arbir: you too!
[23:02] <hydester> so for hardy (8.04), anybody know why i am getting the beta version of audacity?
[23:02] <chris78v> what does it mean when it says html rendering is currently disables
[23:02] <Promille> encspot
[23:02] <ocRob> chris78v: what does what mean when what says that
[23:02] <justizin> hydester: see if there are multiple versions available, perhaps there is a stable package and an unstable package, but apt is choosing the "latest" version.
[23:03] <arbir> justizin: well.. around 10 days, back, in the middle of an update my PC just rebooted. and then i used somebody's advice here, to somehow resume update.. now again i am having this problem
[23:03] <justizin> chris78v: yah what says that, when you do what?
[23:03] <arbir> justizin: can i not rebuild that file ?
[23:03] <justizin> what advice did you follow?
[23:03] <hydester> justizin, how do i find out which repo it is wanting to get it from?
[23:03] <FAJALOU> kitche:  it says the the files 'could not be encoded to the proper format'
[23:03] <justizin> hydester: try apt-cache search audacity and see what's there, compared it to dpkg -l audacity*
[23:04] <twofeetwonder> can anyone tell me how to "sign" something with gpg?
[23:04] <arbir> justizin: i backed up the status file... but that backed up status file was not a good one. we made changes to the status file and re-ran apt-get update
[23:04] <memimomo> hi, I just did a software upgrade and it wiped out my nvidia .ko module file
[23:04] <justizin> twofeetwonder: there are lots of good tutorials on that sort of thing, it should be simple enough.  best i could do would be to read the manpage myself, or find a tutorial, and help you through it..
[23:05] <justizin> twofeetwonder: try finding a simple tutorial, make some progress on it, and let us know if you run into a problem.  i'll probably be around and happy to help.
[23:05] <memimomo> how do I get that module reinstalled, it's been like a year and forget everything I did
[23:05] <arbir> justizin: and now, i am not able to install any application , or update ...
[23:05] <justizin> memimomo: where did that .ko file come from in the first place?
[23:05] <memimomo> justizin: I forget how I built it the first time
[23:05] <justizin> arbir: ouch, that doesn't sound fun.  also i'd need to know what changes you made.  any idea who helped you?
[23:05] <arbir> justizin: is there no way to rebuild this file ? googling made me find this perl script which does it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474587     But i am not trusting it
[23:05] <justizin> do you have logs of the old convo you could pastebin for me?
[23:05] <memimomo> but the error I get when I bootup is that it can't find that file
[23:05] <arbir> justizin: it was somebody called tinman
[23:06] <arbir> justizin: some, onetinman, or something like that.
[23:06] <Org-Mode> arbir onetinsoldier ?
[23:06] <djungelkraem_> how do i change download-directory beyond home in rtorrent? it suggests "./" but i cant go backwars :S
[23:06] <arbir> Org-Mode: yes yes.. you are right. he was very patient and very helpful...
[23:06] <justizin> well i'm not expert on this topic, i haven't actually had this problem, but i think i understand it and can help you understand what this script does, probably.
[23:06] <Org-Mode> he is
[23:06] <justizin> usually if i find a script i dont want to trust for solving a system-level problem, i just read it and try to step through what it does bit by bit
[23:07] <justizin> djungelkraem: . is curdir, .. is parent dir.
[23:07] <FAJALOU> kitche:  it says the the files 'could not be encoded to the proper format'
[23:07] <gustavo> does any body know how to get handbrake and how to use
[23:07] <wiretapt> im getting this error:
[23:07] <memimomo> I tied following directions on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia but my menu doesn't have the "hardware drivers" menu option
[23:07] <justizin> djungelkraem_: also, can't you just base at / ?
[23:07] <lucax1> i need some help, cant see imagen from webcam of a laptop from cheese but some other applications work perfect like skype... any ideas?
[23:07] <wiretapt> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MainMenu".
[23:07] <djungelkraem_> justizin: how exactly?
[23:07] <wiretapt> on gnome boot
[23:07] <justizin> gustavo: last i checked, handbrake is a mac app.
[23:07] <wiretapt> anyone have any ideas?
[23:07] <djungelkraem_> justizin: it bases at ./ - i dont want that
[23:07] <justizin> djungelkraem: i'm not familiar with the app, just helping with basic concepts.
[23:07] <justizin> is this a gui limiting you?
[23:08] <justizin> if so, just symlink some dir into your homedir
[23:08] <ksakjas> anybody use parted magic?
[23:08] <kitche> !info handbrake | justizin
[23:08] <jin> justizin, handbrake also has a gui for Linux
[23:08] <justizin> i do this on my mac to keep ssh and other keys in an encrypted image
[23:08] <justizin> jin: ah, wasn't aware.  that's pretty awesome, then. :)
[23:08] <ToHellWithGA> merry christmas
[23:08] <gustavo> how is handbrake works you know?
[23:08] <justizin> oh, i mean, kitche, thanks. :)
[23:08] <jin> justizin, it is new. ;) it was released a few months ago
[23:08] <justizin> gustavo: i've only used on mac, maybe kitche knows more? ;)
[23:09] <arbir> justizin: what do i do now ?
[23:09] <justizin> arbir: sorry, juggling convos, let me scroll a bit ;)
[23:09] <gustavo> ok
[23:09] <genefitz> I am having an issue with Ubuntu. I can see my Vista computer in Ubuntu, but can't see my Ubuntu computer in Vista.
[23:09] <ToHellWithGA> my function keys (F12, etc.) are not functional on my laptop just after installing ubuntu 8.10
[23:09] <genefitz> I have the workgroup set like usual, but for some reason it can't be seen in the network manager.
[23:09] <justizin> arbir: do you have a log of your past convo?  also, have you considered reading this script you don't trust and trying to learn more.
[23:09] <justizin> this is a really good time for you to strengthen your general unix/apt chops, i'd say.
[23:09] <jin> ToHellWithGA, redownload the iso and checksum the iso file before you burn to dvd
[23:10] <justizin> i can spoonfeed you a solution, but you may be back here in 3 days asking other people to answer for what i've told you.
[23:10] <justizin> also, i don't know one off-hand, so i'd suspect reading some docs and coming up with a more specific question, or something that doesn't work as documented, for help if i am the only person responding to you.
[23:10] <hydester> here is what apt says:  http://mibbit.com/pb/jxwsFL
[23:10] <justizin> i have some things to do today myself other than figure out how to rebuild apt's files. ;)
[23:11] <justizin> though, that is an *awesome* reason that nexenta's apt-clone func is teh super useful.
[23:11] <ToHellWithGA> jin: i'll see what i can do
[23:11] <ToHellWithGA> if that doesn't work i'll come back.  thanks
[23:11] <MatBoy> mhh, no konserve in ubuntu ?
[23:11] <hydester> audacity 1.3.4 is beta, though.  still not sure where the latest option would be
[23:11] <arbir> justizin: reading through past things..... i dont really understand that.....
[23:11] <arbir> justizin: and i was always wondering, is there no way to rebuild this file ?
[23:12] <justizin> hydester: it's not very clear what you did to check or what the result is.  sharing a conclusion with someone you want help with is not very helpful to them, trying to help you. ;)
[23:12] <arbir> justizin: even if it takes 1 hr to rebuild this file.. i am prepared to do this
[23:12] <justizin> if your conclusion is that you're screwed, i can't help you, unless you give me a chance to find some evidence contrary to your conclusion which you've overlooked.
[23:12] <justizin> arbir: sure, i just don't know how, you need to take this opportunity to learn more about apt, what that file is.
[23:12] <hydester> justizin, so what should i show you?
[23:12] <justizin> clearly someone spoonfed you a solution which left me in *less* of an ability to help you
[23:12] <Promille> hm.. couldnt find out how to determine the bitrate with audacity.. looks to complicated for my simple task :P anyhow know an alternative way?
[23:13] <justizin> hydester: outp0ut of a full command and what the command was is a good start.
[23:13]  * Org-Mode wants justizin typing abilities :)
[23:13] <justizin> apt-cache audacity may show you more than one option for audacity.  if you want a non-beta, you want an older versin.
[23:13] <arbir> Promille: you have to read audacity man pages..
[23:13] <justizin> Org-Mode: I took a year-long keyboarding class in 12th grade (about ten years ago) and raced my instructor in the final.
[23:13] <Org-Mode> lol
[23:13] <MatBoy> is keep the only best GUI solution for backups on a workstation ?
[23:13] <justizin> miguel de icaza actually commented that until we chatted the only person he knew who could type faster than him was nat friedman ;d
[23:14] <hydester> apt-cache showpkg audacity:    http://mibbit.com/pb/fLxUR0
[23:14] <justizin> hydester: that's not what i asked at all, is it? ;)
[23:14] <tehloki> I have a pangolin performance from system 76 http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=86 and my bluetooth adapter doesn't seem to exist. What can i do?
[23:14] <justizin> showpkg probably resolves what apt-get install would, and shows you.
[23:14] <tehloki> could this be a software issue or is it most likely not functioning?
[23:14] <justizin> apt-cache search audacity* will have more concise output and contain the information we need to proceed.
[23:14] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble getting bluetooth working on a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop.  I know the dongle works in another machine, and it shows up in lsusb on this one, but still nothing in 'hcitool dev' output.  What can I check next?
[23:15] <memimomo> ok, i remember now, I used envy to install the nvidia driver
[23:15] <memimomo> I'm running envy again
[23:15] <hydester> apt-cache search audacity:  http://mibbit.com/pb/6ZWWtG
[23:15] <justizin> tehloki, tonyyarusso: honestly my bt just works, but you guys might want to compare notes and learn from each other's challenges.
[23:15] <justizin> memimomo: if something's missing, thinking about where it came from in the first place is always a good idea.
[23:15] <justizin> and if something is not provided by apt/dpkg for you, create a tar file with it ;)
[23:16] <justizin> and, glad i could help, if only minimally.
[23:17] <tehloki> justizin: i don't have a dongle, there is apparently an internal bluetooth device
[23:17] <tehloki> the website said the laptop "came with bluetooth"
[23:17] <tehloki> although it doesn't show up, and not in windows either.
[23:17] <justizin> tehloki: i just don't know much about configuring or debugging bluetooth.  i bought a little nipple that sits on my netbook when i want to use my apple keyboard ;d
[23:17] <justizin> not in windows, either, eh?
[23:18] <justizin> did it come with windows installed?
[23:18] <hydester> justizin, did you see my apt-cache search?
[23:18] <Suhail> Anyone know the package to get apache's ab?
[23:18] <justizin> hydester: sorry must have scrolled off, one sec pls
[23:18] <bonhoffer> i just changed the sound output (to headset) in "sound preferences" -- but still getting system sound -- how do i 'reboot' the sound preferences?
[23:18] <tehloki> justizin: no, i ran gparted live and made a new partition and installed winxp on it
[23:18] <bonhoffer> or force the change to be applied
[23:18] <justizin> hydester: okay, so, this suggests there is only one version of audacity. there are a good few other apps which you'll find multiple entries for.  python, esp.
[23:18] <justizin> tehloki: nothing came installed on the machine?
[23:19] <justizin> or, a vendor linux that you blew away?
[23:19] <tehloki> justizin: it came with ubuntu.
[23:19] <justizin> oh, then, i'd call the manufacturer and ask WTF is up with your bluetooth not working. ;)
[23:19] <tehloki> system76 does that.
[23:19] <tehloki> i'll do that
[23:19] <justizin> yah asus does as well on eee i think, and acer seems possibly on the way to
[23:19] <justizin> sorry i can't help more, but i mean, if you buy something with ubuntu on it, make those guys tell you. :)
[23:20] <justizin> i know that probably wont get you fixed on xmas day, thoug
[23:20] <justizin> i say find ubuntu usb howto or something.
[23:20] <Juhaz> !ops
[23:20] <hydester> justizin, my real issue is this beta version of audacity uses portaudio19 and doesn't seem to output audio.  so i tried the last stable version (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/audacity/audacity_1.2.6-0ubuntu1.1_i386.deb) which works great.  just was hoping for a more elegant way via apt instead of having to download debs
[23:21] <hydester> which then got my wondering why beta was in the main distro source anyway
[23:21] <FAJALOU> kitche: it's because my mp3 player only supports mp3 encoding... so i found how to encode in banshee in mp3.   thanks for your help
[23:21] <justizin> hydester: yah it's really a shame that a beta is in the LTS repository, i'd say, personally, that might be worthy of a bug report.  even if someone disputes, you might push and get a policy change or something.
[23:21] <hydester> justizin, fair enough.
[23:21] <justizin> hydester: you might be able to put that in your own repo, but it still won't be the latest 'audacity' package, you'd have to force a ver#, which is at least as much trouble as just dpkg -i
[23:22] <justizin> read about PPA if not famil
[23:23] <will00> does anyone know how to install from source in cygwin?
[23:24] <vitor> I have a problem: When I type my WEP key to connect to a wireless network, Ubuntu keeps telling me to reenter the key
[23:24] <vitor> even when its correct
[23:24] <RO9> Does anyone know how to change my WORKGROUP  from WORKGROUP to HOMEGROUP?
[23:26] <Org-Mode> does anyone have a working 'recordmydestop' that records sounds as well? IF so can you look on the recordmydesktop sound settings and tell me what you have in it?
[23:26] <justizin> will00: not sure this is the most likely place for you to find an answer.
[23:28] <vitor> I have a problem: When I type my WEP key to connect to a wireless network, Ubuntu keeps telling me to reenter the key
[23:28] <memimomo> ok, got my nvidia driver back with envy. great! now I have one more problem to tackle. I have an old hp 890c printer. It has a parralel port connection. I have a usb to parallel connection. But the printer is not getting recognized. Any way to get this working?
[23:28] <koshar3> vitor its case sensitive
[23:29] <vitor> koshar3: Why does it reprompt me even though the WEP key is correct?
[23:30] <avocado> vitor: 64bit vs 128?
[23:30] <koshar3> RO9 sys >admin > networking > general tab domain name = networkname
[23:30] <some_nick> i test
[23:30] <some_nick> цц
[23:30] <koshar3> RO9 however if you have a wins server it should get the server name automaticly
[23:30] <some_nick> өө
[23:31] <koshar3> vitor i would suspect it is not correct
[23:31] <vitor> avocado: The options the Ubuntu 8.10 network manager gives me are: 40 bit/128 bit; or 128 bit and I tried both and they didn't work
[23:32] <vitor> koshar3: I'm 100% sure the key itself is correct
[23:32] <RO9> koshar sys>admin>network tools doesnt have gen tab
[23:33] <justizin> vitor: i have the same issue, when i leave my wifi network, and walk back in, it asks for the pw again, but is saved.  i just click 'accept'
[23:33] <sony> is there a way to double klick a window with a touchpad and drag it long distances without losing the lock on that window?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> sony, I just use alt when I click
[23:34] <justizin> sony: that may be a tall order simply due to human and haptic input limitations..
[23:34] <justizin> like, double tapping is clumsy, fingers aren't precise.
[23:35] <vitor> justizin: It reprompts me every time, and it doesn't accept
[23:35] <AshTray-> To to grep model name from /proc/cpuinfo ?
[23:35] <ocRob> vitor: are you sure your using the right encryption type?
[23:35] <sony> Jack_Sparrow: how do you do that with the alt button'?
[23:36] <rap> aaaa hi to all
[23:36] <vitor> ocRob: I'm currently using WEP encryption
[23:36] <ocRob> wep 40/128 bit key, wep 128 passphrase, dynamic wep?
[23:36] <mo> whats the easiest way to get ALSA 7.1 upmix for every programm
[23:36] <rap> men what it?
[23:36] <rap> <?
[23:36] <rap> Error_Reporting(E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE);
[23:36] <rap> $dt=date('Y-m-d_[H:i:s]');
[23:36] <rap> $text=$_POST['data'];
[23:36] <rap> $ip = getenv ("REMOTE_ADDR");
[23:36] <FloodBot1> rap: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:36] <vitor> ocRob: I've tried wep 40/128 bit and wep 128 and both don't accept the key
[23:36] <justizin> vitor: what cipher, though? many are supported, not all are supported by everyone.
[23:36] <ocRob> vitor: try dynamic
[23:37] <justizin> dynamic++
[23:37] <djungelkraem_> where should the rtorrent config file be stored?
[23:37] <koshar3> RO9 general
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sony, hold the alt key down and left click anywhere in the window and drag it
[23:39] <ocRob> vitor: cat /var/log/messages | grep wlan0
[23:39] <mamat_> i upgraded recently to 8.10... my printer now seems to scale printout by small (but very problematic) factor. anyone knows what's going on?
[23:39] <Guest31283> ө
[23:39] <Guest31283> i test
[23:39] <ocRob> guess dynamic did it :p
[23:40] <ksakjas> i cant figure this out. when i boot gparted i get invalid loop location: /gparted.dat im pretty sure its b/c im using a sata dvd rom. any work around for this?
[23:40] <spottedzebra> need to know how to get the network icon that usually appears in the upper right hand corner of the desktop at default settings
[23:41] <spottedzebra> the one that gives you the list of avaliable networks
[23:41] <qdinar> ???
[23:41] <qdinar> ööö
[23:41] <qdinar> hello
[23:41] <qdinar>  i am testing
[23:42] <ocRob> spottedzebra: nm-applet
[23:43] <spottedzebra> ocRob: is that a command for the terminal
[23:43] <ocRob> spottedzebra: yes
[23:43] <ocRob> spottedzebra: alt+f2
[23:43] <rootard> I've noticed an increasing number of timeouts to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80. Not sure if anyone in this room knows where that info should go or not?
[23:44] <spottedzebra> ocRob: alt+f2 ?
[23:44] <ocRob> spottedzebra: yeah, hit alt+f2, a box will pop up and type 'nm-applet'
[23:45] <RO9> does anyone know how to change the domain name in 8.10?
[23:45] <spottedzebra> ocRob: oh yea i know how to get to terminal and everything but thanks for the short cut
[23:45] <rap> fuck to all
[23:45] <rap> bb
[23:46] <wp_> anyone got experiance with changing permitions for a vfat file system on a portable device??... it is for my new Sony NWZ-A815, but I am not able to load music unto it else that I am in root mode,... I were adwiced to use Amarok, and are trying that (but got myself into some configuration problems that I am trying to solve)... but I am still curius to find out how to change to permitions
[23:46] <spottedzebra> whats the channel name for ubuntu off topic
[23:47] <Slart> wp_: usually you add something to the mount command (in /etc/fstab)
[23:47] <bonhoffer> is there a  way to delete all files in a directory tree that are not *.txt files?
[23:47] <Slart> wp_: I'm not sure of the syntax.. man mount or man fstab might have more
[23:47] <Org-Mode> !ot | spottedzebra here ya go :)
[23:47] <Slart> bonhoffer: yes.. something with "find" might work
[23:47] <wp_> Slart: will try that ;)
[23:47] <bonhoffer> something like: find . -name_not "*.txt" -exec rm {} \;
[23:48] <bonhoffer> not sure how to do the name_not . . .
[23:48] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble getting bluetooth working on a Dell Inspiron 5100 laptop.  I know the dongle works in another machine, and it shows up in lsusb on this one, but still nothing in 'hcitool dev' output.  What can I check next?
[23:48] <hischild> uhoh big guy
[23:48] <anigma> you're on fire today Jack_Sparrow ;)
[23:48] <Slart> bonhoffer: ah.. why not try something like a fancy regexp.. !(\.txt) sounds like something to try
[23:49] <bonhoffer> i imagine it is a regex, so find . -name !( . . .yeah
[23:49] <Slart> bonhoffer: try it with something a bit less fatal than "rm" first.. echo might be nice
[23:50] <Slart> bonhoffer: there might be a switch to negate the function of the regexp too..
[23:50] <Stanlin> HELP when i boot, the load bar stucks in the middle , then i need to hit CTRL + ALT + DEL to force it to continue and boot, but now the computer has no VIDEO drivers, slow, etc. How can i check what went wrong during the boot?
[23:50] <bonhoffer> yeah -- having trouble negating it
[23:51] <alkino> hi all
[23:51] <booncer> any 1 know what distro duz the wireless stuff
[23:51] <alkino> i got a problem with the install of ubuntu
[23:51] <fbc> does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know with a gui?
[23:51] <alkino> someone can help me ?
[23:51] <bonhoffer> find . \! -cnewer date_marker
[23:51] <bonhoffer> interesting . . .
[23:51] <ocRob> bonhoffer: why not mv all the *.txt files out of the directory tree
[23:51] <donavan> I am trying to get tv working on a card that was given to me but I dont even know where to start  anyone ?
[23:52] <jussi01_> !tv
[23:52] <cobalto> hi at all
[23:52] <donavan> booncer: what wireless stuff ?  if you just mean a wireless connection I am using 8.10 with wifi right now
[23:52] <wp_> Slart: there is a -t flag for mount that enable me to specify the filesystem type, did that and it showed no errors... but it did not enable me to change the permitions... the one that adviced me to use Anarok said that vfat does not suport the change permition command
[23:52] <justizin> alkino: what problem?
[23:53] <justizin> alkino: btw it's usually better to just present your problem than to say you have a problem and ask if anyone is willing to help. ;)
[23:53] <Slart> wp_: sure there isn't another parameter for setting the default user for all files?
[23:53] <booncer> nah theres a distro thats full of wireless tools cant remember what its called tho
[23:53] <Stanlin> SOS
[23:53] <bonhoffer> i am so yak shaving . ..
[23:53] <justizin> more people will answer a question than commit to answering a question they haven't heard.
[23:53] <alkino> i have 2 hdd : 1 ide and 1 sata, i power on the live cd and want to install, but i can only work on the ide
[23:53] <donavan> jussi01:  yeah I saw that but my card is a PCIx and the site says it deals with PCI ... is it still useful info?
[23:53] <alkino> ok justizin :$
[23:53] <bonhoffer> trying to learn find so i can troubleshoot ruby . . .
[23:53] <fbc> does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know like the one on a MAC with a gui?
[23:53] <justizin> alkino: odd, what sort of chipset / sata controller do you have?
[23:53] <justizin> sata is certainly supported in ubuntu installer.
[23:54] <DefamedPrawn> 10 hours to make an .iso with DeVeDe. Is that in any way exceptional? I have a Celeron 2800, with 1Gb RAM.
[23:54] <jussi01_> donavan: Im guessing it is...
[23:54] <cobalto> one ask , i have firefox but with superuser the browser sails and with normal user don't sails, what are the problem?
[23:54] <alkino> justizin: yes it is, when i got only sata i can install on it, but now when i have the both i cannot
[23:54] <alkino> its not a problem of controller :)
[23:54] <jennifer> so i have an atheros wifi card (ibm made) - there's some hardware drivers that were installed for it, but i don't "see" any networks - do i have to use ndiswrapper + win drivers?
[23:54] <donavan> booncer: yeah I know what your talking about and for the life of me I cant remember the name of it but I know the FBI was using it for some things a while back and I think I read about it on endgadge
[23:54] <cobalto> sorry for my english
[23:55] <donavan> booncer: sorry engadget
[23:55] <bonhoffer> is there a way to use find that excludes directory names?
[23:55] <fbc> donavan, booncer , i think fbi was using knoppix
[23:56] <justizin> bonhoffer: man find, i'm pretty sure it has exclude ability, or you can pipe through grep -v, which i often do, to remove entries containing any string.  with egrep always, grep sometimes, you can do something like grep -v ^/some/path.*$
[23:57] <justizin> this says "exclude anything beginning in /some/path followed by any number of characters matching any pattern, including none.
[23:57] <jkenn337> hello. has anyone had any luck getting ubuntu 8.10 to work on a Dell dimension 8200? Ubuntu just hangs at bootup for me. I am blind, and can't see the screen, so have no idea what's going on. but I read that regular Debian works fine. any ideas?
[23:57] <sthiago> 'lo, I'm having a problem to even start X upon a VIA chrome9 (ubuntu 8.10). The X just show me 3 optios to try fixing it, but none worked. Can anyone help me? :)
[23:57] <jennifer> so i have an atheros wifi card (ibm made) - there's some hardware drivers that were installed for it, but i don't "see" any networks - do i have to use ndiswrapper + win drivers?
[23:58] <booncer> yeh jennifer
[23:58] <joshua__> pheddele
[23:58] <joshua__> oops
[23:58] <jennifer> booncer, yes?
[23:58] <bonhoffer>  find . -type f \! -name "*.el" -exec rm -f {} \; <-- worked well
[23:58] <booncer> yep
[23:59] <Zharf> hi, does ubuntu livecd  come with k3b?
[23:59] <cwillu> bonhoffer, um?
[23:59] <joshua__> does anyone know of a terminal command for checking the installed audio card?
[23:59] <booncer> itslike that when i install wifi hardwares listed works when li--ndiswrapper has the win drivers
[23:59] <matthias__> hi why does my zen pöayer does not show up at connection by usb ???
[23:59] <fbc> Someones handing me down their toshiba qosmio and was wondering how it works under 8.10. Anyone using a toshiba qosmio?
[23:59] <wp_> how I am able to find the gid on a group?
[23:59] <matthias__> player ...
[23:59] <booncer> stoopid mini keyb lol
[23:59] <Zharf> actually, I guess it doens't, should probably check kubuntu instead... anyone have an idea about that?
[23:59] <Zzeiss> joshua__: hmmm... iwlist?


[01:10] <manchicken> Okay, I'm stumped... virtualbox won't mount my shares.
[01:11] <manchicken> I've installed the add-ons in the guest, and it hangs when I try to `ls` in the folder on which I've mounted the share, but that's it.
[01:11] <manchicken> I'm trying to use virtualbox to test the debug installer changes I made, but it's just not working.
[02:03] <manchicken> Tonio: Hiya
[06:52] <soee> good morning
[08:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[09:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: fr, es: 100%; de: 71% (presumably 'unkown' strings that shouldn't show anyway); it, ru, anything asian: 0%
[09:40] <apachelogger> not the best of translation stats
[09:42] <Quintasan> \o
[10:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: 1.0.0 uploaded
[10:09] <apachelogger> also created a new card to do with integration, which I conveniently forgot to add to the previous card (adding to seed and stuff)
[10:13] <apachelogger> upstream release procedure done as well
[10:14]  * smartboyhw packages it for apachelogger ?
[10:14] <apachelogger> it be packaged
[10:14] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, it is packaged already?
[10:14] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: you should write "enhanced foreign language ISO test cases"
[10:14] <apachelogger> not package stuff
[10:14] <apachelogger> due Aug 20
[10:15] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, the problem is I have no time now suddenly for long projects
[10:15] <apachelogger> that aint no long project :P
[10:15]  * smartboyhw gives up the card
[10:15] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, it takes 5 days to write one
[10:15] <apachelogger> :O
[10:15] <apachelogger> dafuq
[10:15] <apachelogger> anyway
[10:15] <smartboyhw> And I don't have the bandwidth to download an ISO now
[10:15] <smartboyhw> Suddenly my Wifi is very slow
[10:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: seeing as we have no other cards due for feature freeze I'll do phonon drawings again
[10:16] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: don't think you need to download a new iso to write the test case any old iso will do ;)
[10:16] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, we HAVE to
[10:17] <smartboyhw> That's Testcase writing Code of Conduct:P
[10:17] <apachelogger> what do I care
[10:17] <apachelogger> bad test case > no test case
[10:17] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, yourself:P
[10:17] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, sorry, I rather want to have no test case > bad test case
[10:17] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, do you want me to fetch somebody from the QA team to write one?
[10:18] <apachelogger> sure, I just want a test case :P
[10:18] <apachelogger> how it gets done is beyond my level of interest :P
[10:18] <apachelogger> anyway, lunch and then architecture drawing session \o/
[10:19] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion about-distro 1.0.0
[10:19] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218281
[10:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, shadeslayer apachelogger yofel https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-1/+files/about-distro_1.0.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[10:26] <smartboyhw> I will come back after shower to see if I can do the foreign language testcase
[10:26]  * smartboyhw has rotten skills on that
[11:01]  * apachelogger sighs at launchpad
[11:02] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, why?
[11:03] <apachelogger> time out of the time out after a time out
[11:03] <smartboyhw> lol
[11:22] <Riddell> apachelogger: phonon drawings?
[11:23] <apachelogger> architecture sanity review, something is astray with class interdependence
[11:27] <Riddell> most poeticly put, is that a quote from shakespear?
[11:29] <smartboyhw> Riddell, I know you are Scottish, but you should at least be able to spell Shakespeare correctly...
[11:34] <Riddell> :)
[11:34] <Riddell> history is on my side, he couldn't even spell his own name correctly :)
[11:41] <smartboyhw> Riddell, uh OK
[12:03] <Riddell> smartboyhw: did you update the about-distro package?
[12:03] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yep
[12:08] <Riddell> lovely
[12:08] <smartboyhw> Riddell, not sure if apachelogger uploaded it yet though
[12:08] <Riddell> yeah it's in
[12:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, shaekspear that was :P
[12:22] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: I uploaded it before I even wrote anything about it :P
[12:23] <apachelogger> which is what the message "<apachelogger> Riddell: 1.0.0 uploaded" was supposed to communicate :P
[12:23] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, huh
[12:24] <Riddell> apachelogger: ooh :)
[12:36] <Riddell> smartboyhw: putting on your press hat are you? :) http://dot.kde.org/2013/08/29/kde-releases-going-through-changes
[12:37] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yes, my first article to dot (NOT YET FINISHED)
[12:37] <smartboyhw> We need pics still
[12:37] <smartboyhw> Which unfortunately, I can't provide
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:40] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1180470] "Window title" text box disabled in Window-Specific Settings @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180470 (by Ibrahim M. Ghazal)
[15:17] <smartboyhw> YEAH! My Season of KDE project got accepted!
[15:26] <Riddell> smartboyhw: what is it?
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, write documentation for Muon and Muon Discover
[15:26] <smartboyhw> So, Kubuntu benefits a lot;)
[15:26] <Riddell> lovely :)
[15:27] <smartboyhw> Riddell, more even, mentor is jtechidna
[15:27] <smartboyhw> Easy to communicate, that is
[15:28] <Riddell> "coreymon77 (coreymon77) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members)" yay coreymon77 still loves us
[15:28] <Riddell> although I'm not sure I remember who coreymon77 actually is
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Riddell, huh
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Riddell, when did his membership start?
[15:29] <Riddell> dunno I just got it in e-mail
[15:30] <smartboyhw> -.-
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Riddell, weird, most SoK projects are really coding ones
[15:31] <Riddell> yeah most summer of code projects are coding ones
[15:31] <Riddell> SoK will follow that
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Riddell, well, GSoC is expected to be code
[15:31] <smartboyhw> But not SoK:P
[15:32] <Riddell> right,  no reason why it can't be anything else
[15:32] <smartboyhw> They actually wanted more non-code projects
[16:35] <mparillo> Adding comments to Launchpad Bug reports crashes Rekonq on 13.10. Any suggestions on whether to file a bug against Rekonq or against Launchpad?
[16:37] <Riddell> mparillo: probably against webkit
[16:37] <Riddell> mparillo: try using the qtwebkit-source in saucy-proposed
[16:37] <Riddell> then get a backtrace and send it upstream
[16:38] <mparillo> Riddell: Thank you.  Otherwise, I could simply install a different browser for known problem sites (owa, allthingsd.com and now Launchpad)
[16:50] <BluesKaj> mparillo, ok , but whynot a VB/kubuntu install?
[17:26] <soee> Riddell, you asked once about Network Manager ?


[10:29] <Squirm> hello
[10:31] <Squirm> stgraber: I heard you were wonderfully helpful and as was stated, 'a wonderful chap'. Maybe you can help me.
[10:31] <Squirm> so recently, I got an edubuntu LTSP machine up and running. everything runs smoothly. The only issue I seem to have, is when the server boots up, tftpd-hpa doesn't work until I do a `service tftpd-hpa restart`
[10:31] <Squirm> these 2 lines are before service restart and after service restart
[10:31] <Squirm> root     12526  0.0  0.0   2704   124 ?        Ss   10:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address <IP_ADDRESS>:69 --secure /var/lib/tftpboot
[10:31] <Squirm> root      1136  0.0  0.0   2704   120 ?        Ss   11:49   0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address <IP_ADDRESS>:69 --secure /var/lib/tftpboot
[10:31] <Squirm> they're exactly the same
[10:31] <Squirm> but the client machines do not find the tftp server until I restart the service
[10:39] <vmlintu> Squirm: I don't remember the tftpd-hpa behaviour right now, but could it be that the network interface is not up yet when the process starts during boot?


[19:33] <popey> we have ubot2 and ubot5 in #ubuntu-kernel. Probably one of them needs to go away...
[20:00] <IdleOne> popey: ubot2 is muted
[20:01] <popey> thanks
[20:01] <IdleOne> sure thing
[22:58] <Unit193> IdleOne: Just a FYI, ubot2!*@* doesn't match ubot2`.


[04:22] <studio-user279> hello. Install Ubuntu Studio on my pc and this incomplete sound packete. I use Ubuntu Studio Meta Installer and it did not work. I thank you very much
[17:51] <Gsanchez85> Hello
[17:51] <Gsanchez85> Anybody here
[17:52] <Gsanchez85> ???
[19:43] <studio-user450> Hello, anyone around?
[19:47] <studio-user450> Q: I am trying to install to an external SATA HDD.  Earlier, I was able to install Ubuntu Studio to this 3TB HDD when I pulled my computer out and ensured that it was the only drive available.  However, whenever any other drive is attached, it installs, but refuses to install grub - and if it install grub to another drive, it refuses to recognize the O
[19:53] <studio-user450> The computer is in a really awkward position - I'm contemplating pulling it out again and doing the same thing (there are 9 drives, all external), but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas first