[00:44] <MrHotsauce> question about xubuntu 13.04 my machine dosent have bluetooth capabilities and ive uninstalled blueman why is there still a bluetooth icon in my top panel?
[00:50] <nukke> MrHotsauce: there's a specific bluetooth dock applet that comes with xfce, iirc. open up ubuntu software manager, click on "Installed" and search for bluetooth
[00:50] <nukke> there should be something still installed
[00:50] <nukke> after that, sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:55] <MrHotsauce> ah thanks nukke that worked! i have another 4 machines i need to upgrade today none of which have bluetooth capabilities so ill be using that a few times today
[00:56] <nukke> glad it worked MrHotsauce :)
[01:18] <carrera> Hi
[01:18] <FireTalon> hi
[01:19] <carrera> my laptop has a eSATA/USB connection which is listed as eSATA HD on the boot menu. Can I use it to install from a USB Flash?
[01:20] <FireTalon> I honestly dont see why not. Most of those are listed as esata/usb to the bios
[01:20] <FireTalon> only one way to find out for sure.
[01:20] <carrera> I don't have a flash and the stores close in 10 mins!  :)
[01:21] <FireTalon> hmm
[01:21] <FireTalon> better hurry then :p
[01:21] <carrera> I've a 2 year old Qosmio
[01:21] <FireTalon> that should work fine
[01:21] <FireTalon> and I envy you
[01:22] <FireTalon> im on a satallite c655d right now
[01:22] <carrera> is the other option DVD since 13.04 doesn't fit on a single CD anymore?
[01:22] <FireTalon> yes
[01:22] <carrera> that's a Toshiba too
[01:22] <FireTalon> yup
[01:22] <carrera> how old is it?
[01:22] <FireTalon> I threw an ssd in it, and upgraded the memory to 8gb
[01:22] <FireTalon> hrm
[01:22] <FireTalon> 4 years? 3
[01:22] <FireTalon> something around there
[01:23] <FireTalon> sadly this notebook has lasted me longer than any dell or lenovo has
[01:23] <carrera> I threw in 2 480 GB SanDisk SSDs!  :D
[01:23] <FireTalon> hah
[01:23] <carrera> sadly?
[01:23] <FireTalon> I couldnt spend more on a disk than the machine si worth :p
[01:23] <carrera> :D
[01:23] <carrera> do u install using a USB?
[01:23] <FireTalon> yes
[01:24] <carrera> does it say eSATA on the boot menu?
[01:24] <FireTalon> Nope, this machine only has two usb ports
[01:25] <carrera> then, since my eSATA connection takes a usb too, chances are I can install from a USB drive too
[01:25] <FireTalon> yes
[01:25] <carrera> lemme dash down the street
[01:25] <FireTalon> it will definatly be quicker
[01:25] <carrera> the best computer store in Vancouver/Canada is like 6 blocks from my apartment
[01:25] <carrera> it's called NCIX
[01:26] <FireTalon> most of them around here are owned by arrogent asses
[01:26] <nukke> don't you guys have walmarts or any other department store?
[01:26] <nukke> you can get a flash drive almost anywhere that sells any kind of electronics
[01:27] <FireTalon> I have one around 50 miles from me
[01:27] <FireTalon> I live in the middle of nowhere usa :p
[01:27] <nukke> that sucks
[01:34] <FireTalon> yeah, it sucks
[01:35] <FireTalon> I cant get normal internet access either, I have 6MB wimax (tower based not cellular) that i do good to get 2.0MB out of
[02:02] <Foxhoundz> For some reason, even though I repartitioned half of my hard disk space to set aside 100GB for Xubuntu using Windows management tool, the only option I have when I install Xubuntu is to wipe entire disk
[02:02] <Foxhoundz> and dev/sda doesn't show my windows partition
[02:02] <Foxhoundz> What gives?
[02:06] <FireTalon> GOt me on that one
[02:07] <FireTalon> unless the partition was formatted as ntfs
[02:08] <Foxhoundz> it;s unallocated actually
[02:08] <Foxhoundz> just empty space
[02:30] <dougbb> so anyone seeing problems with 13.04?
[02:38] <hrzhu> I've just installed awesome wm on 13.04 but I can't see it in lightdm
[02:44] <hrzhu> turns out a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/1094811
[03:18] <WalterN> hmm
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> WalterN: Yes?
[03:41] <WalterN> derp
[03:41] <WalterN> (nothing)
[03:41] <WalterN> just trying to decide if I want to install Xubuntu 13.04 or not
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> And?
[03:42] <WalterN> since it was just released
[03:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Riht...
[03:44] <SonikkuAmerica> *Right...
[03:45] <nonuby> how can I set the trackpad to disable when usb mouse is plugged in?
[03:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Settings Manager > Mouse...?
[03:46] <nonuby> nope
[03:46] <nonuby> I mean automatically sorry
[03:47] <SonikkuAmerica> There should be an option...
[03:47] <dougbb> I wish
[03:47] <dougbb> one thing that I think is missing
[03:47] <dougbb> personally I disabled the trackpad, and just use the nub when I have to
[03:47] <SonikkuAmerica> I might check, I have 12.04 LTS
[03:47] <nonuby> there was another WM that did have it cant remember possibly gnome2 or gnome3
[03:47] <nonuby> (was a while ago)
[03:48] <nonuby> i guess one can write a udev rule but id getting old
[03:48] <SonikkuAmerica> They both have that capability.
[03:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Hmmm... seems to be found wanting.
[03:53] <dougbb> well  like I said, it's a minor irritation
[03:53] <dougbb> for me anyway
[03:53] <dougbb> I almost always have a mouse of some sort
[03:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Get out the poison. :)
[03:54] <dougbb> there are 1,440 updates available
[03:55] <dougbb> that's a disturbingly round number
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> It's a multiple of 45
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah, hello akis.
[04:07] <akis> hi. although i installed on my xubuntu 12.04 ubuntu's sounds today i realised that i lost the incoming email sound of ubuntu and the system returned to xubuntu's default. any idea or advise to fix it?
[04:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Are there sound preferences in your email program?
[04:09] <akis> SonikkuAmerica: hi again.
[04:10] <akis> yes i suppose they are enabled because i can hear the drums if i am trying to send an email with no subject
[04:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, I wouldn't know where to start, but hunt down your sound prefs and link it to the Ubuntu sound.
[04:14] <hrzhu> it looks like thunderbird use python-notify to notify incoming emails
[04:15] <carrera> Currently, I'm running 12.04 installed on 2 x SSDs in RAID 0 configuration. Would Xubuntu 13.04 desktop recognize my RAID?
[04:15] <holstein> carrera: you can always try it live and see what happens
[04:15] <carrera> holstein, thanks!
[04:16] <akis> hrzhu: i am running thunderbird on 3 pc's. the 2 of them have the "paf" sound for income messages (ubuntu's default). the 3rd although it had it too, now it lost it, but still the ubuntu's drums work ok.
[04:18] <holstein> akis: just look for the system sound settings.. for the 'alert" or something similar.. you'll just have to play with what is what
[04:18] <carrera> The BIOS on my Qosmio x500 laptop doesn't have USB in the boot menu but it has eSATA and the actual connection is eSATA/USB. Can I boot from a USB drive?
[04:19] <akis> holstein: i fixed it when i installed them the first time, but i cannot remember where to search. in setting editor maybe?
[04:19] <holstein> carrera: i would just try it... i also have a few plop iso's laying around to help make USB boot after booting a CD
[04:20] <holstein> akis: i would look in the system settings for sounds preferences.. thats where i usually look to turn *all* sounds off
[04:20] <carrera> holstein, problem is that I left all my flash sticks behind!  :(
[04:21] <carrera> and I don't wanna buy another flash only to find out I couldn't boot from it
[04:21] <carrera> holstein, plop iso's?
[04:22] <holstein> carrera: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html wont help you... allows booting USB on hardware that doesnt boot USB, but boots CD/floppy/etc
[04:24] <carrera> holstein, thanks
[04:24] <carrera> can I just boot off of my SSD?
[04:25] <holstein> carrera: that is really going to depend on your machine.. nothing about xubuntu/ubuntu will prevent anything from booting anything
[04:26] <carrera> I mean somehow starting the install process from ubuntu 12.04
[04:27] <holstein> carrera: nothing about 12.04 is preventing you from installing ubuntu to or from whatever you want
[04:27] <akis> holstein: although in setting editor/xsettings/NEt/Soundthemename is: ubuntu, i have the xubuntu default incoming email message sound
[04:28] <holstein> akis: you might have to dig deeper..
[04:28] <akis> holstein: what to you mean by that?
[04:30] <carrera> holstein, Great!  Can I just execute the iso file?
[04:30] <holstein> akis: i mean, if when you say "although in setting editor/xsettings/NEt/Soundthemename is: ubuntu, i have the xubuntu default  incoming email message sound
[04:30] <holstein> that you want another sound for something that is *not* being affected there.. you might have to dig deeper and set something manually
[04:31] <holstein> akis: when you choose "whatever" theme, it may or may not effect the setting for the thing you are trying to set.. you might need to dig down to it manually...
[04:31] <hrzhu> akis: have you checked the `play a sound' when new message arrives in preferences -> general in thunderbird
[04:31] <akis> holstein: yes, ok i understand. but it worked perfect all the sheme. the other sounds are ubuntu's sounds. only the incoming message has been changed
[04:31] <holstein> ^^ that too.. just set it in the client
[04:32] <hrzhu> and there is also a `show a alert` option
[04:32] <holstein> akis: and, you set it in the settings in the client?
[04:32] <akis> hrzhu: sure, i have sound but the xubuntu's default not the ubuntu's sheme.
[04:33] <akis> wait a minute!
[04:37] <akis> i solved it! it was so simple! for an uknown reason in general preferences in thunderbird was ticked the incoming sound "receive" which is the xubuntu's default (as far i can remember) and not the "default system sound for new mail" which is the ubuntu's one. now it works perfect. everything is ok. thank you guys. kind regards
[05:47] <xubuntu033> xubuntu wont down load
[06:45] <pimperle> hi. where can i find the xfce4-terminal config file? I'd like to copy my colorscheme to another box and cannot find it.
[06:50] <well_laid_lawn> pimperle:  tried looking in ~/.config/xfce4/
[06:50] <well_laid_lawn> ?
[06:51] <pimperle> yes, i grepped for one of my current colors there, but without success
[06:54] <koegs> pimperle: depends, either ~/.config/Terminal or ~/.config/xfce4/terminal
[06:55] <pimperle> koegs: thanks, i have a look
[07:55] <kai> morning folks
[07:56] <cfhowlett> kai, greetings ... actually it's 4 PM here in China
[07:57] <kai> cfhowlett: I'm operating on IGT, international greeting time. It's always mornings when you join an IRC channel ;)
[07:57] <kai> anyhow, I'm having some "fun" with the xubuntu installer and setting up an encrypted LVM that only spans part of my disk
[08:01] <kai> Once I select "use partition for encrypted filesystem", the installer automatically creates the volume group and a logical volume to span the whole drive
[08:01] <kai> er, sorry, the whole encrypted partition
[08:02] <kai> but I'd like to do my own setup
[08:04] <kai> alternatively, when I then go and set up the lvm stuff manually in the crypted partition, the installer doesn't set up the boot loader correctly and then during boot the system won't ask for my password to decrypt the drive.
[08:18] <cfhowlett> kai, such talk is completely over my pay grade.  probably get an answer in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server
[08:19] <kai> cfhowlett: yeah, no worries, I'll try #ubuntu
[08:19] <ncdmr> kai, depends which partitions you use as encrypted.  I use luks to encrypt my lv_data and ecryptfs for my /home
[08:19] <ncdmr> or are you looking into encrypting / as well?
[08:19] <kai> ncdmr: I basically want everything encrypted, except from /data
[08:20] <ncdmr> wouldn't it make more sense the othe way round? :D
[08:20] <kai> there's secret keys in /etc/ that I wouldn't want to have compromised
[08:20] <kai> and /data is where I'd put stuff where I don't want to pay the speed penalty of encrypting stuff
[08:21] <ncdmr> true, makes sense I guess.  Because of that I prefer to rely on harddisk password as first line of defense
[08:23] <kai> anyway, how the heck do I do the LVM setup in the installer?
[08:23] <kai> :)
[08:24] <kai> that's really annoying
[08:24] <kai> especially as you can't go "back" without confusing it about the crypted partition, so every time it screws up you need to reboot
[08:43] <ncdmr> I usually do my lvm config outside of the installer (vgscan, vgchange, lvscan and such)
[08:48] <idodeisuke> when will be the update available via update-manager?
[08:52] <baizon> idodeisuke: yes, if you got 12.10
[08:52] <baizon> idodeisuke: try running update-manager -d
[08:54] <MrHotsauce> idodeisuke: you can also run "sudo do-release-upgrade"  in terminal to upgrade as well
[08:59] <idodeisuke> baizon, I tried, it ain't showin
[08:59] <idodeisuke> ;(
[09:01] <baizon> idodeisuke: have you really tried "update-manager -d"
[09:02] <idodeisuke> baizon, yes >:( But the command line option works
[09:04] <idodeisuke> now the update via the commandline is on the way :)
[09:04] <baizon> ou well :)
[09:08] <kai> ncdmr: I've done that, but the kernel wouldn't ask for my LUKS password on load and the boot just failed.
[09:11] <idodeisuke> I just hope it'll be over before 8:13 PM CET...
[09:21] <kai> hm
[09:21] <kai> ok, so I've successfully installed my basic system using the server install. can I now use the xubuntu install disk to grab the desktop packages?
[09:28] <baizon> kai: or the internet
[09:33] <kai> baizon: well, if I could figure out how to connect to the 802.1x wireless setup from the command line, I'd be happy to
[09:33] <kai> I didn't have any luck googling it, either
[09:33] <baizon> kai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[09:35] <kai> baizon: I fail to find any info on non PSK WPA setups
[09:36] <kai> pre-shared key is easy, but I need a password and certificate based setup
[09:37] <kai> hmm
[10:12] <kai> ok, so booting the xubuntu cd, using network manager to set up the network and then using chroot might work :)
[10:32] <aiena> does sudo apt-get autoremove remove all unneeded packages ?
[10:32] <knome> yes
[10:32] <aiena> are these not not needed by the all the apps ?
[10:32] <aiena> ionstalled on the system ?
[10:32] <knome> (except those that are marked manually installed)
[10:33] <knome> yes, they aren't needed by anything on your system
[10:33] <knome> you can also do "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove" to remove all their configuration as well
[10:33] <aiena> so even if I compile from source there should be a problem
[10:33] <aiena> so me apps
[10:33] <aiena> *shouldn't be a problem
[10:34] <aiena> e.g. I compiled kvirc from a source tar and isntalled it on the system wit h checkinstall
[10:34] <aiena> *installed
[10:34] <aiena> nothing will happen to its dependencies
[10:34] <knome> i imagine in that case the dependencies would be set to manually installed
[10:35] <aiena> ok
[10:35] <aiena> thanks
[10:35] <knome> you can always install again (apt will show you a list of packages to be removed)
[10:35]  * aiena nods
[10:36] <aiena> thats good for system cleanup then.
[10:36] <aiena> to remove garbage
[10:36] <knome> definitely
[10:36] <knome> that's why apt-get suggests that if you have autoremovable packages
[10:36] <aiena> yes I see it when I normally install new things
[10:37] <aiena> thanks
[10:37] <knome> np
[10:38] <aiena> knome is there a way to dump all terminal output into a text file ?
[10:38] <aiena> for future reference
[10:38] <knome> your command >textfile
[10:38] <aiena> i mean terminal input and output
[10:38] <knome> i don't think that catches input
[10:38] <knome> but any output, yes
[10:38] <aiena> ok thanks
[10:39] <aiena> for the tip
[10:39] <knome> again np :)
[10:39] <aiena> do i need to create the txt file first ?
[10:39] <aiena> i mean the textfile first with leafpad
[10:39] <knome> nope
[10:39] <knome> as long as the running user has permissions to create that file, you are fine
[10:40] <aiena> ok and if i use the same text file for another command does ir append to or overwrite the same file ?
[10:40] <knome> overwrites
[10:49] <buenol> Hi, I needed to say this somewhere: I love xubuntu! It's just magically working on my Asus 1225C, better than the ubuntu that was included! It's just great! Everything works as expected (suspend, video, ..) ! Hoooray for xubuntu!
[10:51] <cfhowlett> buenol, glad it's working out for you.
[10:52] <knome> buenol, thanks, have fun
[10:54] <buenol> thanks ^^
[10:55] <gry> one would wonder what went wrong with the 'real' ubuntu at this point to get them fix their bugs but that's surely optional
[10:55] <gry> I think they have a button to report the "I have laptop X, things Y and Z misbehave in the so-and-so way"  thing somewhere but I'm not entirely sure where that'd be located
[11:11] <koegs> i am sorry, what?
[11:12] <TheSheep> !bugs | gry
[11:14] <gry> that's to the other folk here who actually sees the bugs I presume :)
[11:44] <aiena> well even normal folk can see them  eventually !!
[11:44] <aiena> gry
[11:53] <aiena> egat is the shortcut for the taskmanager in xubuntu ?
[11:54] <koegs> there is no default keyboard shortcut
[11:59] <aiena> ok can it be configured ?
[11:59] <koegs> yes
[11:59] <aiena> where ?
[12:00] <koegs> Settings -> Keyboard
[12:00] <ncdmr> just point a key combo towards "xfce4-taskmanager"
[12:01] <xubuntu336> hey guys, anyone else experiencing distorted graphics during boot
[12:02] <ncdmr> nope
[12:02] <xubuntu336> shit, must not have wiped the old one properly
[12:03] <aiena> xubuntu336: thats because of your graphics driver
[12:03] <ncdmr> forgot to format /boot?
[12:03] <aiena> is it installed
[12:03] <aiena> you see a small greenish line distortion on your screen during boot before it becomes black again
[12:03] <aiena> right ?
[12:03] <ncdmr> I once had this on a test machine where I was booting xubuntu with the new bootsplash from SuSE 12.3
[12:03] <xubuntu336> Yes I have a driver
[12:04] <aiena> then you can format again from a live distro
[12:04] <aiena> with gparted
[12:04] <xubuntu336> The top half of the screen becomes very messed up right before log-in
[12:04] <aiena> ok the the distortin I am talking about is different
[12:04] <aiena> that is early boot yours is later boot
[12:05] <aiena> i mean later in the boot process
[12:05] <xubuntu336> it's technically after boot right when the os is loading
[12:05] <aiena> ok mine is at that time too
[12:05] <xubuntu336> its not hardware my other distros are fine
[12:05] <aiena> ok
[12:05] <aiena> then dunno
[12:06] <aiena> I have only xubuntu on this machine no other distros
[12:07] <xubuntu336> I used the upgarde tool in 12.10 to go to 13.04, and then this started happening, because xlock and xscreensaver was running
[12:07] <xubuntu336> or so I assume
[12:07] <xubuntu336> So I made a LiveCD and made it from that, but the problem still happens
[12:08] <xubuntu336> I assume its because the cd didnt wipe the old version properly
[12:17] <aiena> could be the case
[12:17] <aiena> you can try formatting this partition from another distro
[12:17] <aiena> format it to fat 32 and then back to ext
[12:17] <aiena> that should ensure a clean wipe I guess
[12:18] <aiena> or it could be an issue with 13.04 too
[12:19] <zierka> hi! The new version is UEFI-ready, isn't it?
[12:19] <xubuntu336> Well if it wasnt I wouldnt be here right?
[12:19] <xubuntu336> Id really prefer not to reformat again
[12:21] <aiena> hmm 13.04 could still run
[12:21] <aiena> but it may be some other trivial bug too
[12:21] <aiena> couldnt it ?
[12:21] <aiena> lots of software runs well with bugs too
[12:21] <aiena> the kernel is working
[12:22] <aiena> but it could be something else too
[12:22] <xubuntu336> im thinking its xfce related
[12:23] <xubuntu336> xscreensaver works fine
[12:24] <aiena> could be which version is it in 13.04 ?
[12:24] <aiena> 4.10 or later
[12:26] <xubuntu336> yeah 4.10
[12:26] <aiena> I am not experiencing any issues with it on 12.04
[12:26] <aiena> LTS
[12:26] <aiena> I used a ppa
[12:26] <aiena> so it might not be xfce at all
[12:26] <knome> i would be very surprised if it was a xfce-related issues
[12:26] <knome> -s
[12:27] <xubuntu336> hmm i have an idea
[12:28] <xubuntu336> changed the splash
[12:28] <xubuntu336> Im gonna reboot
[12:32] <xubuntu093> Haha fixed it
[12:32] <xubuntu093> Corrupted bootsplash i guess, anyone else experience this?
[12:37] <aiena> Yay  :)
[14:21] <mogmog_> hellow
[14:22] <mogmog_> anyone tried xubuntu 13.04? is it good?
[14:22] <GridCube> yes
[14:22] <GridCube> :)
[14:23] <baizon> mogmog_: yes its very good
[14:23] <baizon> a very stable release
[14:24] <mogmog_> i'm waiting for review before upgrading just in case it's no good :p 12.10 seems good enuf for me
[14:25] <holstein> mogmog_: try it live.. "good" is a matter of opinion. why would you want to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04? software version changes, or support. other than that, its up to you and free to try
[14:25] <GridCube> P: mogmog_ consider 13.04 an improvement over 12.10, there is just bug fixed and more streamlined settings, nothing newer that could break a thing
[14:26] <baizon> mogmog_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-khddoDGX1g
[14:29] <mogmog_> okay thanks. torrenting now :)
[14:43] <kRush> I don't get the versioning of fglrx(-updates), where can I see what driver version is actually in those packages?
[14:52] <ruien> anyone know how "safe" it is to dist-upgrade from 12.04? It looks like the xubuntu maintainers nailed it with 13.04 (stability/bug fixes, updates, and no new directional changes), so i'd like to upgrade rather than waiting for 14.04. Or, would you recommend a reinstall from ISO?
[14:53] <koegs> ruien: you have to upgrade to 12.10 first, then 13.04
[14:53] <koegs> i would rather do an re-install or just stick with 12.04 :)
[14:53] <ruien> hm, is that so. In that case, yes ok.
[14:53] <ruien> thanks
[15:05] <arturuntu> Hi there! When I startup session with my user on Xfce 4.10 somehow my home folder and image viewer automatically start up too. I don't know how to unset this. Already try logging with other user and everything's normal, so it's some setting related to my user. Thanks!
[15:06] <zierka_> Hi! You are suggesting to use Universal USB Installer to put xubuntu on a usb pendrive, but it does not create a UEFI bootable drive, it just creates a regular non-UEFI one, so those who are having UEFI they could have problems with it.
[15:07] <zierka_> Sent to the staff of course.
[15:07] <holstein> arturuntu: at shutdown, there should be a 'save session" checkbox.. or logout.. try that first
[15:09] <holstein> !uefi | zierka_
[15:09] <holstein> zierka_: afaik, those with uefi are exepected to do what is needed for the hardware they have
[15:10] <arturuntu> ok holstein, thanks. I try it now
[15:10] <holstein> arturuntu: also, look at the session you are booting from the login window
[15:16] <arturuntu> thanks holstein, it's fixed not. I close evething, check the box and log out. Then log in and out back again and uncheck it. Thanks again!
[15:17] <holstein> arturuntu: cheers
[15:18] <zierka_> I was able to install xubuntu easily, the setup part went without problems, i just want to say that the Universal USB Installer was not good for me, who has UEFI. I used win32diskimager, that is ok, it created a UEFI bootable drive.
[15:19] <holstein> zierka_: sure.. but if folks *dont* have uefi, they wouldnt need that.. i think the idea is, folks who have uefi will need to take the necessary steps... also, if its a wiki page you are referencing, they should be editable
[15:51] <zodiak> stupid question, when creating past (say) 10 terminals inside the xfce terminal, little scroll arrows appear up at the tabs section (one left, one right), how do I get the arrows to disappear without closing the 11th terminal tab ?
[15:59] <TheSheep> make the terminal wider so that they fit?
[16:00] <zodiak> well.. it never used to do this pre terminal 0.6.1
[16:10] <ChicoNorteTF> Xubuntu power! :-D
[16:59] <Lanaii_GER> hello, is anyone german here
[17:00] <baizon> Lanaii_GER: yes
[17:01] <Lanaii_GER> or can anyone help me, to solve my problem. I installed xubuntu 13.04 and want to have my system in German, i've installed the language-pack logout and restart but nothing changed
[17:01] <Lanaii_GER> mein system ist in englisch obwohl nur mehr deutsch installiert ist
[17:01] <baizon> Lanaii_GER: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spracheinstellungen
[17:02] <Lanaii_GER> hab ich doch schon alles gemacht
[17:06] <baizon> Lanaii_GER: ehh
[17:08] <kRush> how do I get the terminal window to remember its position?
[17:08] <kRush> it always opens mid screen
[17:09] <baizon> kRush: "The Xfce Window Manager has a feature called smart placement which can be adjusted based on the window size. Basically it will automatically center windows that are below a certain size and once they get bigger than that, new windows will try to be arranged automatically in the best place to have coverage. You can adjust the minimum size setting under Settings → Window Manager Tweaks → Placement. "
[17:13] <elfy> kRush: if you want apps to always open in the same place/screen/workspace - I've been using devilspie for years to do that
[17:14] <elfy> and gdevilspie makes it a lot easier to set it up :)
[17:15] <kRush> the smart placement seems to do the trick for now. the slider is just so arbitrary
[17:17] <kRush> but thanks for the suggestion, I will keep it in mind
[17:21] <elfy> cool - I'm a bit specific about where I want things - firefox on one screen's workspace, xchat on another etc ...
[17:25] <recon_lap> back again, wondering if it's just me who's getting hard lockups? 3 this week so far!!
[17:26] <elfy> I've had one or two with the -19 kernel
[17:27] <recon_lap> i'm on 3.2.0-40-generic #64
[17:29] <recon_lap> might be time for a clean up of my OS
[17:34] <zodiak> recon_lap, any reason for staying with an 'old' kernel ?
[17:35] <recon_lap> old? I'm just go with the flow on lts releases
[17:35] <recon_lap> is it old?
[17:35] <zodiak> aaahh.. you are on 12.04 lts
[17:35] <zodiak> well.. yeah.. mainstream kernels are now upto 3.8.something or other ;)
[17:35] <zodiak> recon_lap, you can always go back to a previous kernel if you are on lts .. they should still be in your grub menu
[17:37] <recon_lap> might do that, might just wait a while and go to 13.04
[17:37] <zodiak> sounds like a plan.. or jst bump upto 12.10 and then bump upto 13.04 after a while
[17:38] <recon_lap> zodiak: you can probably tell I like to not spend time messing with upgrades and stuff :)
[17:39] <recon_lap> had to upgrade mysql 5.5 to 5.6 yesterday due to a bug
[17:39] <zodiak> meh.. most of the past xubuntu/ubuntu upgrades have been ~relatively~ smooth
[17:39] <zodiak> oh mercy.. mysql.. nuff said :P
[17:39] <zodiak> *cough*postgres*cough* ;)
[17:40] <recon_lap> true, next db I make will not be in mysql :)
[17:41] <zodiak> yeah.. I moved to pg back in 6.5 days.. never been happier. sqlite for when I need a small, light db :)
[17:41] <recon_lap> looked at porting to postgres but felt the effort was to much.
[17:42] <zodiak> aaahh.. yeah. totally depends on your app and program of course but.. usually I find it worth the pain upfront, rather than paying for the pain in the longer term
[17:42] <zodiak> swings, roundabouts
[17:42] <recon_lap> tried to install MariaDB , did not go well
[17:43] <zodiak> oh ? you mean from the repos or jst with your app ?
[17:43] <recon_lap> from the repos, seems it's bugged
[17:43] <zodiak> hhrmm.. hopefully you flung a ticket into launchpad ;)
[17:43] <zodiak> cause I was going to play around with maria next week :D
[17:44] <recon_lap> MariaDB is not in ubuntu repos as far as i saw.
[17:45] <recon_lap> admittedly i did not look very hard at it
[17:46] <zodiak> alrighty.. guess I am my own guinea pig then
[17:49] <recon_lap> zodiak: If i was really trying it would have turned into a manual compile/install
[20:34] <nick___> hello guys
[20:34] <nick___> i need some help seriously...i am new to Linux! i have a laptop with two partitions!
[20:35] <nick___> on one partition is windows Xp home and on the other partition i want to install xbuntu
[20:35] <nick___> but now that i putted the cd for the install
[20:35] <nick___> doesnt show me any partition
[20:35] <nick___> just a huge allocated space
[20:37] <knome> allocated or unallocated?
[20:38] <well_laid_lawn> I was thinking that too
[20:39] <nick___> allocated sorry
[20:39] <nick___> but it doesnt make any sense :(
[20:39] <MrHotsauce> are you sure you partitioned it right?
[20:39] <knome> if you created two partitions, all space should be allocated
[20:40] <nick___> i had from the start windows xp...C and D two partitions eatch one 40 gb...now i have xbuntu live cd on...and i have one allocated space about 80 gb size and a 450gb of my external usb drive that is unplugged!omg
[20:40] <nick___> well MrHotsauce i am so newbie seems :(
[20:40] <knome> allocated means that there is a partition in the partition table that fills that space, regardless if it's used by anything or not
[20:40] <nick___> still i cant understand
[20:40] <nick___> :(
[20:41] <nick___> it was my laptop out of the box...with presinstall windows xp and the two partitions (ntfs both)
[20:41] <Noskcaj> nick___, bit of advice, in XP make one partition again and let Xubuntu then make it so there are two.
[20:41] <Noskcaj> for linux, you don't want to use ntfs
[20:41] <nick___> oh thanks but i was hoping for something more fast cause i will have to back up
[20:42] <nick___> ye Noskcaj i was hoping that xubuntu could see the two partitions and convert the one that i want to install it on it to exst4
[20:43] <Noskcaj> nick___, that can happen, but xubuntu will also want a swap partition (windows doesn't need one because it makes a massive file with the same purpose.
[20:43] <nick___> :( oh
[20:44] <Noskcaj> my advice: in XP, merge all the partitions.
[20:44] <nick___> will i loose data from this?
[20:44] <Noskcaj> then in the xubuntu installer it should have the option to install xubuntu beside XP
[20:44] <Noskcaj> and no
[20:44] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check the cd
[20:44] <Noskcaj> just make sure all your data is on the C drive
[20:45] <Noskcaj> Once you select install beside, a slider will come up and you choose how much you want each partition to be.
[20:45] <nick___> oh thank you so much! yes all my data are on C! so i merge the partitions
[20:45] <nick___> and then just put again the xubuntu live cd
[20:45] <nick___> for the installation?
[20:45] <Noskcaj> some tips: 1. Xubuntu will see the XP partition, XP won't see the xubuntu partition. 2. ext4 doesn't ever need defragging
[20:45] <Noskcaj> YES
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> if there is two partitions the live cd should see them both
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check the cd
[20:46] <nick___> thank you so much for your patience and your precious help!!! ok! i am merging them and returning back to the installation
[20:47] <nick___> cd works fine well_laid_down...i have played around with it on live session
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> obviously it doesn't
[20:47] <nick___> what should i do then?
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> if there really is two partitions
[20:47] <nick___> use a usb stick for installer?
[20:48] <nick___> yes they are
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> should be a cd check option in the live cd's menu
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> if there is two partitions and the live cd only sees one that won't be the only trouble you have
[20:49] <nick___> okie where is the cd check option?
[20:50] <well_laid_lawn> in the menu when you first start the live cd
[20:50] <nick___> after i log in the envivonerment?
[20:51] <nick___> cause i have just Try xubuntu and Install xubuntu
[20:52] <nick___> btw Gparted from settings can see the two partitions that are ntfs :P
[21:01] <dick> hey guys iv got this odd looking thing going on i have  black box around the menus when i click them
[21:03] <dick> no help on the web
[21:03] <aiena> is it possible to install audacity 2.0.3 in xubuntu 12.0.4 LTS ?
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> dick: What Xubuntu is this, and what is your graphics card?
[21:08] <dick> i have 13.04 and no graphics card im on a old Dell Dimension 3000
[21:10] <dick> recently moved from linux mint as i could not get samba to log onto windows shared xubuntu work out of the box just have that one issue
[21:11] <MrHotsauce> have you tried turning off desktop compositing?
[21:12] <gusnan> aiena, its available in a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~audacity-team/+archive/daily
[21:12] <aiena> gusnan that ppa is 2.0.3 + svn I think
[21:12] <aiena> I want just the stable 2.0.3 build + the daily svn alterations
[21:13] <aiena> * - the daily alterations
[21:13] <aiena> just the base 2.0.3 stable
[21:13] <aiena> normally there are PPA's with stable releases
[21:13] <aiena> but this PPA' seems like a nightly sort of PPA
[21:13] <gusnan> aiena, oh - I searched around a tiny bit, but I havn't found anything that suits those req's unfortunately...
[21:14]  * aiena nods
[21:14] <aiena> On my windows partition
[21:14] <aiena> I have 2.0.3 stable
[21:14] <aiena> that rocks with libsoxr
[21:14] <aiena> so I was just wondering if there was a stable PPA here
[21:14] <aiena> no worries
[21:14] <aiena> 2.0.2 will do - definitely :)
[21:16] <nick___> should i format my 1-2 gb partition as swap?or?
[21:19] <recon_lap> nick___: you need make something the swap space
[21:19] <nick___> ok now i can see the two partitions
[21:19] <nick___> 39 gb and 39 gb
[21:19] <nick___> still i dont know who is who!
[21:19] <nick___> but how i make a swap space?
[21:20] <MrHotsauce> nick if you choose the empty partition i think it "should" make the swap space for you
[21:20] <recon_lap> nick___: you should have created a small partition that you can make the swap drive
[21:21] <recon_lap> nick___: I take it you are doing the advanced install
[21:21] <nick___> ok i am in the point where i see the two partitions (eatch 40 gb) i guess the first one from the left is the one with windows xp so now i can drag if i want the line to make the linux partition smaller in space?but i dont care so much about this
[21:22] <nick___> yes i presses advaced settings
[21:22] <nick___> now press on partition table?
[21:23] <recon_lap> nick___: you might have to remove the linux partition to make room for you swap partition. should be sized about 150% of your system ram .
[21:25] <nick___> wow wow take it a bit slowly plz for a such noob as me!!! my ram is 2 gb! i have two partitions! one 40 gb (installed witndows xp) and one 39 gb something
[21:25] <recon_lap> nick___: yes, you need to set your partition manually, just be careful not to mess with your xp partition
[21:25] <nick___> so now what i am doing?
[21:26] <recon_lap> nick___: you need to create a partition for your swap drive, so go into the partition manager.
[21:26] <nick___> yes
[21:26] <nick___> and now?
[21:26] <nick___> (i am seeing the two partitions!)
[21:26] <nick___> in a tree view something
[21:27] <nick___> sda1 and sda5 their names..
[21:27] <recon_lap> nick___: well, I'd delete the linux partition , create a 3gb partition mounted to swap, then say a 36 gb partition for root
[21:28] <nick___> okiee
[21:28] <nick___> ehm sorry but a bit more details directions to make it?
[21:29] <nick___> just choose the linux partition (its ntfs ayway the filesystem) and press delete?
[21:29] <recon_lap> I'd actually make 3 partitions , 18gb root, 18gb home, 3gb swap
[21:29] <recon_lap> nick___: just make SURE you got the right partition
[21:30] <nick___> ok recon_lap sooo much thanks for all your precious help! ok now i deleted the right partition and its labeled as free space!
[21:31] <recon_lap> now i forget which type of partition you want , a logical or extended
[21:31] <nick___> mm i dont know neither! lol what should i make?
[21:32] <MrHotsauce> i think its logical he wants
[21:33] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
 I'd actually make 3 partitions , 18gb root, 18gb home, 3gb swap
[21:34] <nick___> so i guess that i need extend partition?
[21:34] <recon_lap> problem with logical is you can only have 4 on a drive
[21:36] <nick___> in logical partition eatch of the Os can be independent?like i cant touch windows xp partition with linux?
[21:36] <recon_lap> nick___: nope, they all touchable
[21:36] <nick___> ok
[21:37] <nick___> so should you recommend me?whats the difference of logical and extended?
[21:37] <nick___> anyd cons prons?
[21:38] <heoyea> whats the ?
[21:38] <recon_lap> nick___: follow the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes , do you have 2 drives?
[21:38] <nick___> no
[21:38] <nick___> its just one laptop
[21:38] <nick___> with one poor driver
[21:38] <nick___> hard disk if is that what you mean with drive word
[21:39] <nick___> a hard disk with two partitions of 70 gb eatch one (sorry i was wrong before with 40 gb)
[21:39] <recon_lap> nick___: so whats there already, whats xp on?
[21:39] <nick___> and the one now is labeled as free partition now as i pressed delete onit
[21:39] <nick___> yes
[21:39] <nick___> it was alread xp on
[21:40] <recon_lap> free partition?
[21:40] <recon_lap> free space surly
[21:41] <nick___> yes
[21:41] <nick___> free space
[21:41] <recon_lap> and what type of partitions?
[21:42] <nick___> the first says ntfs (the one that got windows)
[21:42] <nick___> the free space nothing
[21:42] <nick___> i dont know if i can see from somewhere else if it is soemthing like logical partition or extended...
[21:43] <recon_lap> dont matter, create a 1 gb primary, then create a extended with the rest , split the extended up in 3 logical partitions
[21:44] <nick___> eatch one of the logical partitions 18 gb?
[21:44] <recon_lap> nick___: well I'm not sure ehat size you drive is
[21:45] <nick___> the whole driver?
[21:46] <recon_lap> nick___:  how big is the extended partition?
[21:46] <nick___> 76 gb it is the free space
[21:46] <recon_lap> nick___: 3 gb for swap, up to 30gb for root, the rest for home
[21:47] <nick___> ok and the 1 gb primary that you said before for what is?
[21:48] <recon_lap> nick___: just to have it there, seems some boot loaders and other stuff may go in there. dont know for sure
[21:49] <nick___> okk!! and how i separate the free space partition in extended and withing logicals?i have selected it (blank) but i dont see any obvious direction
[21:50] <recon_lap> nick___: there is no free space partition, thats you xp partition
[21:50] <nick___> :O how comes?
[21:50] <nick___> i mean my xp partition is the other one
[21:50] <recon_lap> nick___: because that where XP is
[21:50] <nick___> that is untouched i dint deleted it
[21:52] <recon_lap> nick___: dont delete it, thats where XP is. free space is basically unused, the guide shows it as the space you would put your other OS(xp) in
[21:52] <recon_lap> you already have XP loaded
[21:52] <nick___> mm i am confused now because when i saw the two partitions i pressed delete the one that was empty (even windows empty ntfs partition)
[21:53] <nick___> and now you telling me that should i move my xp to other partition?
[21:53] <recon_lap> no, dont touch you XP partition
[21:53] <nick___> ok
[21:55] <Arpad2> !nvidia
[21:58] <nick___> ok i used gparted from the live cd to get a better view of how its the partitions so we have sda1 thats the windows xp the other one is sda2 that contained the sda5 that is extended
[21:58] <recon_lap> nick___: sounds like you have 2 drives there
[21:58] <nick___> and i have and a unallocated space 10 mb
[21:59] <recon_lap> nick___: but lets not get distracted
[21:59] <nick___> no its one and the extended is on sda2 sorry not to sda5 sda5 is data
[22:01] <recon_lap> nick___: I really cant safely partition your drive over IRC, you have the information you need. is there anything you are confused about?
[22:03] <nick___> i know just trying to figure out...to much for a guy that used windows for 14 years only :(
[22:03] <nick___> so i am choosing the partition sda2 a
[22:03] <recon_lap> nick___: the main thing is not to delete your XP partition
[22:03] <nick___> and use the rerize option?
[22:03] <nick___> ye i know i wont
[22:05] <recon_lap> nick___: I cant answer that, I have no idea what your partition table looks like.
[22:06] <recon_lap> nick___: and setting partitions is only something I do rarely so I'm a bit vague on the details
[22:07] <nick___> well the first one sda1 option is just the windows xp partition the second one is called sda2 and contains a sub sda5 that can edit format it in a filesystem type and resize it...but the strange is that i have to choose sda5 only for configure since sda2 is not customized! well anyway thanks so  much
[22:07] <iLogical> hello
[22:07] <iLogical> my fn+volume keys arent working
[22:07] <iLogical> although they were in the last ubuntu i had
[22:07] <iLogical> i am using ubuntu now
[22:08] <iLogical> i have xfce4-mixer though
[22:09] <iLogical> also before i removed pulseaudio
[22:09] <iLogical> then i removed that .pulse/client.conf file
[22:09] <iLogical> or emptied it
[22:10] <bazhang> was there a question in there?
[22:11] <MrHotsauce> iLogical: try suspending and un-suspending
[22:11] <MrHotsauce> i have to do it every boot to get my fn keys to work
[22:11] <recon_lap> iLogical: have a look at http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26398 , post 4 is the one i think you need to read
[22:14] <iLogical> MrHotsauce, i rebooted but nothing
[22:14] <recon_lap> nick___: I still have little idea whats on you hdd, you have a XP partition, but whats on the other partition"data"?
[22:14] <MrHotsauce> not reboot suspending
[22:14] <nick___> nothing lol!it was some setups programs that i moved them to the XP partition and now is empty! but still anyway shows me that there is 3 gb captured from something lol
[22:15] <recon_lap> nick___: if it's an empty partition, delete it
[22:15] <Barnabas> dont expect tools on another platform windows vs linux to make sense of whats on the other platforms partitions
[22:16] <nick___> delete it?so simply?from gparted?
[22:16] <nick___> i can format it i guess
[22:17] <nick___> to a ext4 filesystem
[22:17] <nick___> but after?i start making the 3 logical sub partitions
[22:17] <nick___> with resize option
[22:17] <nick___> ?
[22:17] <Barnabas> nick___, that depends
[22:18] <Barnabas> are you ok with having one partition for all your stuff
[22:18] <recon_lap> nick___: you should not need to resize. you should create the partition the right size first time
[22:18] <Barnabas> or do you want several for say /var /tmp /usr and /home
[22:18] <Barnabas> usually you just want /
[22:18] <Barnabas> for a normal user
[22:18] <Barnabas> one partition that is
[22:19] <recon_lap> Barnabas: speak for yourself :P
[22:19] <Barnabas> I know
[22:19] <Barnabas> I have several
[22:19] <Barnabas> but if you are not an advanced / hc user then it is easier with one
[22:19] <nick___> ok recon_lap i create a partition extended to the right size (i like it to be the same size as it is now 76 gb)
[22:19] <nick___> then?
[22:20] <recon_lap> nick___:  first make a 1gb primary partition for bootloader stuff
[22:21] <iLogical> recon_lap, this is way too complicated, isn't there an easier way?
[22:21] <recon_lap> nick___: then make a large extended partition , devide it into 3 , 3gb swap, 30gb root / , and the rest for home
[22:22] <Barnabas> you need to make 4 partitions to split up a linux install in a sensible way - so I agree with recon_lap
[22:22] <Barnabas> the easiest way is one though
[22:24] <nick___> ok i have already a extended big partition! primary that is out of the extended should be also ext4 filestystem?
[22:26] <recon_lap> nick___: you put logical drive in the extended one, and plz give drive sizes when talking about them. it helps
[22:27] <recon_lap> nick___: let the boot loader take care of the 1gb primary , I never messed with it before afair
[22:27] <nick___> yes it is logical type and file system ext4 the trhee of them swap 3 gb ,30 gb roor and home 40 gb
[22:28] <nick___> yes the unallocated space that is out of the two partition and i told your before that is 10 mb its seems toe be the primar :P
[22:28] <recon_lap> nick___: so it looks like your good to go, now just have one final look to make sure you have not erased you xp partition :)
[22:30] <nick___> hehe yes recon :) well i can see that in the one partition that i supposed to be windows xp it says that 40 gb is on use so should i believe it ?:P
[22:30] <Barnabas> nick___, thats how linux sees a windows partition
[22:30] <Barnabas> "in use"
[22:31] <Barnabas> or ubuntu
[22:31] <nick___> btw on the logical partition in the label section of eatch of the trhee partition should i put
[22:31] <nick___> root
[22:31] <nick___> with slash
[22:31] <nick___> in the front
[22:31] <nick___> ./root
[22:31] <nick___> ./home
[22:31] <nick___> ./swap
[22:31] <nick___> ?
[22:32] <nick___> and aligned to Mib
[22:32] <Barnabas> "/home"
[22:32] <Barnabas> "/usr" etc
[22:32] <Barnabas> "/" is the root itselv
[22:32] <Barnabas> the dot is from where ever you are
[22:32] <recon_lap> nick___: root is normally just "/"
[22:33] <Barnabas> .. the parent dir
[22:33] <nick___> aha
[22:33] <Barnabas> relative paths make no sense in the process of installing an os
[22:33] <nick___> so i dont put anything in the label
[22:33] <nick___> when i am about to creat the new logical partition
[22:33] <nick___> just leave it blank?
[22:34] <recon_lap> nick___: it's up to you , can be useful for identifying partitions if you ever in gparted again
[22:35] <nick___> aha thank you...well i want to say that i can put same names to recognize them but no need to be so specific in the names
[22:35] <nick___> so i can name the root logical partition
[22:35] <nick___> rooteeeeee
[22:35] <nick___> the home homeeee
[22:35] <nick___> etc
[22:36] <Barnabas> I suppose you could, but your /etc/fstab would look a bit strange
[22:36] <Barnabas> the file that is the config for mounting stuff
[22:36] <recon_lap> nick___: as i said,but I'm a bit vague on the details
[22:36] <Barnabas> file systems
[22:37] <nick___> hm so Barnabs what names should i use in the label
[22:37] <nick___> at the creation of eatch logical partition
[22:37] <Barnabas> I usually just call them by name
[22:37] <recon_lap> Barnabas: dont think you mess with fstab anymore, though drives got mounted with usb type identifiers these days
[22:38] <Barnabas> "/usr", "/tmp", "/var", and "/home"
[22:38] <Barnabas> recon_lap, youre right
[22:38] <David-A> nick___: you can call them anything, or nothing, but a system that makes the names unique is good
[22:38] <nick___> oh thank you
[22:39] <nick___> ok so i can use "/" on the naming on the label
[22:39] <David-A> nick___: if you plan to dual boot different distros with a common home, then the roots can be called "xubuntu","debian","fedora" insteadof "root" and the home "home"
[22:40] <recon_lap> nick___: and "/" as a name is not good. likely to cause confusion , "root" is better
[22:41] <nick___> David-A we speaking about dual boot with windows xp and Xubuntu
[22:41] <David-A> nick___: depending how you manage the booting you may want a separate "boot" partition too.
[22:42] <nick___> ok recon_lap! i named them home root and swap
[22:42] <nick___> David-A ye it is by default a unallocated space
[22:42] <Barnabas> usr and var?
[22:42] <nick___> that is seems to be primary type partionf
[22:43] <nick___> Barnabs recon_lap told me to make only 3 logical partitions in my extended partition that would be called Swap 3 gb, root 30 gb and the rest 40 gb home
[22:43] <Barnabas> usr being where your executable installed code go, and var where your data to that installed code go
[22:44] <recon_lap> dont forget the 1gb primary ;)
[22:44] <nick___> the 1 gb primary is out of the extended partition that contains the 3 subs
[22:45] <nick___> but it is called unallocated and is 10.35 mb
[22:47] <Barnabas> ok, but being a developer, an mysql install would need more
[22:47] <recon_lap> nick___: so you did not create a 1 gb primary partition? probably wont matter but it was supposed to be some extra space if it was need later .
[22:47] <Barnabas> data in /var
[22:47] <Barnabas> for instance
[22:48] <nick___> recon_lap ok i will create then a bit more big primary partition...
[22:48] <nick___> but the problem is that its giving me only 10 mb to work for this lol
[22:49] <nick___> Barnabs what you mean about mysql install?what have to do with primary partition that have bootloader stuff?
[22:49] <recon_lap> nick___: is that because thats all the free space left?
[22:50] <nick___> yes :P
[22:51] <recon_lap> I normally leave a few gb unallocated on every drive
[22:52] <nick___> so now?how can a leave 1-2 gb unallocated on my drive?
[22:52] <recon_lap> nick___: dont use all the free space
[22:54] <Nick____> sorry it disconnected me
[22:55] <recon_lap> Nick___ np, I was just thinking how you would love doing this partitioning in the old text menu system.
[22:55] <Barnabas> much to easy
[22:55] <Nick____> in command line?
[22:56] <recon_lap> fdisk was it
[22:56] <Nick____> oh:P
[22:56] <Barnabas> well even the console in ubuntu today is based on a frame buffer ..
[22:56] <Nick____> ye it would be really ridiculious
[22:56] <Nick____> as a newbie that i am
[22:56] <Nick____> :P
[22:56] <gex> hi there
[22:56] <Nick____> so now can i do something for put some more unallocated space
[22:56] <Nick____> ?
[22:56] <gex> this time iḿ not being able to auto run nvclock on startup
[22:57] <gex> tried to sudo nvclock
[22:57] <gex> like : sudo nvclock -F 10 -f
[22:57] <recon_lap> gex: sudo apt-get install bum
[22:58] <gex> 10x recon_lap iḿ going to try this
[23:01] <recon_lap> just remember gksu
[23:06] <Nick____> recon_lap the primary partition it can be ext4 or even ext3 or 2 doesnt matter eh?
[23:07] <recon_lap> Nick____: dont think it matters. just leave it.
[23:09] <Nick____> ok so much thanks! you helped me to understand and clear so much things about partioning and installation of xubuntu! ah it reminded me the old days that i was asking help for coding sometimes! Irc rules! why should facebook overtake the people and destroy the internet!
[23:09] <Nick____> i wish i could buy you some beers guys!
[23:10] <recon_lap> I should set up that paypal account :P
[23:14] <Nick____> hehe with so much helped i dont think that you could get judged so much
[23:14] <Nick____> :d
[23:14] <Nick____> :D
[23:15] <Nick____> anyway good night guys and hope to talk you tommorow from my xubuntu!
[23:20] <kRush> weird, that there's no way to throw a couple of bucks at xubuntu
[23:25] <knome> we're not allowed to make money out of xubuntu.
[23:26]  * David-A assumes "we" above is "xubuntu"
[23:27] <knome> anybody contributing to xubuntu really
[23:30] <Biafra> Okay Xubuntu 13.04 isn't wanting to install for me. It either locks up entirely (when nomodeset is on) or shoots out a wall of panic/oops text (when it is off)
[23:34] <recon_lap> Biafra: you 12 months ahead of me.
[23:35] <recon_lap> Biafra: doing a reinstall probably the quickest fix, have you tried with a live usb?