 Install shows blue screen with Xubuntu in centre, then goes to black screen forever. - any help
[18:20] <john__> hello, if i remove something from software, does it do remove or purge?
[18:21] <john__> *software-center
[18:24] <flocculant> removes I would suspect
[18:39] <genii> john__: It removes any binaries or other files like this in /bin,/sbin and so on, but leaves any config files like in /etc intact
[18:39] <john__> genii, thank you genii
[18:40] <genii> np
[20:03]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[20:14] <knome> m3n3chm0, yes?
[21:32] <Guest2038> unable to install xunbuntu - install shows blue screen with xubuntu in centre then a few fast lines including one that says 'data interrupt but no data used' - not verbatum - then screen goes black forever and ever and .....
[22:52] <kaerhon> hi
[22:52] <kaerhon> i need help on a very stupid matter
[22:53] <kaerhon> how do i execute .sh or .py files without ./ing them in a terminal?
[23:08] <knome> kaerhon, they need to be executable and in PATH
[23:08] <kaerhon> if they lauch when i "./" them in a terminal, does that mean they are executable?
[23:08] <kaerhon> i don't know what "in PATH" mean
[23:09] <knome> no, it does not mean they are executable
[23:10] <knome> chmod +x filename to make them executable
[23:11] <knome> and PATH=$PATH:/path/to/file in .bashrc or .profile
[23:11] <knome> and the path being to the directory the file is in
[23:17] <kaerhon> well, it's chmod +x 'd
[23:17] <kaerhon> and where do i PATH it?
[23:18] <xubuntu97i> hı
[23:18] <xubuntu97i> hello
[23:22] <knome> kaerhon, as i said, add the line "PATH=$PATH:/path/to/dir" in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[23:24] <kaerhon> oh, ok, i found it
[23:24] <kaerhon> i didn't figure it was in my /home
[23:24] <kaerhon> thanks
[23:29] <kaerhon> knome, i just did it
[23:29] <knome> np
[23:29] <kaerhon> but hum, it opens with mousepad
[23:29] <kaerhon> i should have mentioned it
[23:29] <knome> what does?
[23:31] <kaerhon> uh, it opened with mousepad instead of launching, as it did when i used lubuntu
[23:31] <knome> what opened?
[23:31] <kaerhon> the file i try to launch
[23:32] <knome> ok... and what is the file?
[23:32] <kaerhon> (it's mypaint, i built it from git, and i launch it by doing ./mypaint in a terminal)
[23:33] <kaerhon> (but back when i used lubuntu i was able to double click it, now it just open it's text in mousepad)
[23:34] <knome> ok, so what you really want to do is create a launcher, not run a script from the terminal?
[23:34] <kaerhon> yes
[23:35] <kaerhon> because when i launch it on a terminal, it writes lines and lines each time i draw a stroke
[23:38] <kaerhon> crap, i'm totally unable to express clearly what i want, sorry
[23:39] <kaerhon> thank you
[23:39] <knome> you can create a launcher on the menu for example by simply selecting the executable as the command to run
[23:39] <knome> what you basically want is a .desktop file, however/wherever you create it
[23:45] <kaerhon> ok i see
[23:45] <kaerhon> thank you kaerhon
[23:45] <kaerhon> meh
[23:45] <kaerhon> thank you knome !
[23:46] <knome> np


[19:37] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 2.8.0 released @ http://www.mail-archive.com/xfce-announce@xfce.org/msg00871.html


[19:04] <len-dt> astraljava, there seem to be two ISOs... the one listed on the qa page is not the newest one.
[19:05] <len-dt> The qa page lists aug17 but there is a aug18 ISO in daily.
[19:05] <len-dt> Does it matter which we test?
[19:30] <astraljava> len-dt: You should update the page, for me it says the image is from today, the 18th.
[19:31] <astraljava> Xubuntu is a more difficult one, there seem to be several builds from yesterday only.
[20:23] <len-dt> I had to go back a few pages astraljava Thanks. I happen to have dl todays, so it's all good.
[21:22] <astraljava> len-dt: Right, nice, thanks! I'll go sleep soon, but I'll try to spend more time on this tomorrow. Release is nearing. :)
[23:06] <len-dt> astraljava, i386 done for 12.04.1
[23:48] <ailo> len-dt: Been working on the testing suite today. I'm including multiple tests into one. jack_test amongst others (it stresses the system, but I don't really know if it's actually useful for us)
[23:49] <ailo> The test I'm scripting myself is going to be some kind of a common desktop usage sitation. Start jack, start an application, run it. Count xruns
[23:50] <ailo> Well, I really only have the two right now
[23:50] <ailo> Was going to look at other ones
[23:50] <ailo> Like kernel tests
[23:50] <ailo> don't have the time to analyze what each test is good for, so I though I'd just include a bunch. And then we do tests, gather data, and analyze it in good time


[00:01] <HiDeHo> Hi all just wondering what apps ubuntu studio uses for running liv performance microphones adn guitars etc, as well as recording them etc.
[00:05] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   ardour + jack handle multi mic inputs
[00:20] <HiDeHo> CFHowlett: i have linux mint 9 built on ubuntu 10.04 atm having trouble running jacke server so cant try freewheeling app. audacity works great.
[00:21] <HiDeHo> * jack. jackd
[00:21] <HiDeHo> CFHowlett: its one input thru the mic jack atm to run audacity awsome
[00:22] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   I agree.  Audacity helped even an old dog like me get into podcasting.
[00:27] <HiDeHo> CFHowlett: well its good i can record each track seperatly. its great. just wish there where more apps in linux like mac garage band, drum machine etc. maybe there are some that i have yet to descover.
[00:28] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   umm, have you installed the ubuntustudio audio packages?
[00:28] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   hyrdrogen = drum machine + about 50 audio music apps
[00:29] <CFHowlett> okay, I counted - it's only 42 by default...
[00:34] <HiDeHo> a have not instralled the ubuntu studio repos here yet.
[00:34] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   if you're  a musician, you just might want to check out the audio meta-package.
[00:35] <HiDeHo> would probabbly prefer to get ubuntu studio itself. or even buy this great os http://www.getstudio4.com/ <- studio 4 is baised on puppy linux and uses allot of ubuntu studio apps from what i gather.
[00:35] <HiDeHo> yea i might lol
[00:35] <CFHowlett> $50?  Seriously?
[00:35] <HiDeHo> not sure if to add that to my current mint 9 os, mint 12.
[00:35] <CFHowlett> OK, MAYBE it's worth it
[00:35] <HiDeHo> well if its good i might
[00:36] <HiDeHo> he is targettign professional market with it lol
[00:36] <CFHowlett> easiest install is to (1) use LTS only 10.4 currently.  Install the bas system, then add your mint themes.
[00:36] <HiDeHo> there is the free version puppy studio 3 and this http://pupitup.org/ all built on pup studio i believe.
[00:37] <HiDeHo> CFHowlett: mint 9 is built on ubuntu 10.04
[00:37] <HiDeHo> tha is my maon os i love mint 9
[00:37] <CFHowlett> HiDeHo   slso see puppy studio
[00:37] <HiDeHo> CFHowlett: lol i mentioned that ^
[00:38] <HiDeHo> puppy studio came first the guy who makes studio 4 origionally made it
[00:38] <CFHowlett> fun times.  As always use what work
[00:38] <HiDeHo> he had a disagreement and left in a huff adn created his studio 4 from there i believe. not that he has anythign against puppy linux
[00:39] <HiDeHo> lol yes i coudl take the free puppy studio dn build my own from that lol
[00:39] <HiDeHo> to much work though
[00:39] <HiDeHo> atm
[00:39] <HiDeHo> ubuntu studio is great but a bit bloated thats where puppy studio adn studio 4 come itn lighter but still having the great apps lol
[00:40] <HiDeHo> i am lol
[00:41]  * HiDeHo wishes ubuntu studio had a live cd version
[00:42] <HiDeHo> live is best always
[00:43] <HiDeHo> thanks CFHowlett for your help today
[00:43] <CFHowlett> have fun/be safe
[00:45] <HiDeHo> cool man
[01:45] <HiDeHo> is it safe to use the comand sudo apt-get autoremove to clean up apps hte os thinks are not needed any longer
[01:45] <HiDeHo> oops wrong channel
[07:31] <HiDeHo> Hi does ubuntu studio have any apps like freewheeling
[07:32] <HiDeHo> doe a LIVE FEED ADN RECHORDING APP
[08:09] <astraljava> HiDeHo: I don't think I understand you correctly (also, please don't SHOUT!) :D
[08:10] <astraljava> HiDeHo: Both audacity and ardour can record live performances just fine, and I'm sure there are others as well.
[08:13] <HiDeHo> astraljava: any recording app can record anything. i want to be able to hear the input back in my computer speakers = live performance i was mentioning ok
[08:14] <HiDeHo> audacity cn record adn playback songe fine but it cant live feed play in pseakers whild recording can it. or even without recording. this is what i want.
[08:15] <HiDeHo> if ubuntu studio has thes type of apps i am going to test it from live cd
[08:15] <HiDeHo> ..... wait there is no live cd for ubuntu studio. darn.
[08:18] <astraljava> HiDeHo: Not for the existing releases, no, but for the upcoming, there is.
[08:19] <astraljava> HiDeHo: I have no experience on such issues, but I'm sure you will find a plethora of answers on #opensourcemusicians, go ahead and try it.
[08:30] <HiDeHo> I wonder how this compares to ubuntustudio http://www.getstudio4.com/ it seems to be a lighter os
[08:33] <HiDeHo> also wonder how ubuntustudio cpompares to Dreemlinux studio http://www.youtube.com/user/sneekylinux?feature=watch
[09:03] <HiDeHo> ???cant seem to find downloads on the tango studio site weird
[09:04] <HiDeHo> i just found it. stuff this 6 hours to download and no torrent link provided
[09:05] <HiDeHo> woah now says 4 hours download
[09:05] <HiDeHo> ok so its a big os then they deffinatly should have an official torrent
[09:22] <astraljava> Don't know about those, and really they aren't the topic for this channel anyway. Again, you can ask about those (and possible users) on #opensourcemusicians, for instance.
[10:39] <Drumplayr> Hello
[10:41] <Drumplayr> My buddy uses Sonor. As an experiment, I wanted to see if Linux could out perform his Windows setup.
[10:45] <Drumplayr> I'm using a PreSonus FirePod (FP10) and a Sound Blaster Live! sound card. I'd like to hear what I'm recording through the sound card. So far, I can only record without hearing anything, then switching all the settings around so that when I play back what I recorded it comes through the sound card.
[10:46] <Drumplayr> Let me explain that again... I can't get both the FP10 and the SB Live! to work at the same time.
[14:54] <sPrinGfield> hi@all could someone help me with jack configuration? I didnt get it work and google didnt helped too ....
[19:42] <DomiX> hi
[19:48] <Drumplayr> Hello. Anyone home?
[21:16] <Drumplayr> Anyone there?


[00:46] <Reindeernix> When will kde 4.9 RC2 be added to kubuntu-beta repo?
[00:53] <M3CH3NGR> I think I'm in...
[00:53] <M3CH3NGR> Hello?
[00:53] <Reindeernix> Hello I am reindeernix-bot nice to meet you
[00:53] <Reindeernix> lol kidding, hey :)
[00:53] <M3CH3NGR> :p you had me going there for a min
[00:54] <koko-man> hi
[00:54] <M3CH3NGR> I'm very green(n00b-ish) when it comes to the IRC thing
[00:54] <koko-man> hi
[00:55] <koko-man> an other hi
[00:55] <koko-man> so
[00:55] <M3CH3NGR> but long story short, I'm a recent convert from Win and the switch went well, but after I installed VMware on my kubuntu 12.04 PC, I couldn't [re]mount my cdrom
[00:55] <koko-man> by
[00:56] <M3CH3NGR> I think vmware had control of it when it shut down and now neither vmware or kubuntu can mount it
[00:57] <M3CH3NGR> (btw sorry, I completely didn't think about the all caps thing when I made the alias. won't do that again)
[00:58] <Reindeernix> Well you dn't have to change it but if you want you can do it by saying /nick yournickname
[01:00] <m3ch3ngr> nifty, thks. I've tried a few mount commands and even looked in the fstab file, but once I'm in the fstab file I don't know what I'm looking at, can you assist me?
[01:00] <em> is there some reason that I should *not* install ia32-libs on my 64 bit machine?  Anyone know about this 'multiarch' thing?
[01:00] <em> hello?
[01:01] <em> i was just testing Reindeernix bot
[01:01] <Reindeernix> I'm a living person >.<
[01:02] <em> okay i see
[01:02] <Reindeernix> If you people are being sarcastic  them you are good at it
[01:02] <Reindeernix> then*
[01:02] <em> i am good at being sarcastic but I am glad you are living.
[01:18] <Adarc> guys, i have a serious problem. i plugged in my logitech g35 headset (usb), and set in the phonon kde settings g35 as nr.1 everywhere. now sound plays through my headset instead of laptop speakers, even microphone is fine. BUT firefox still uses laptop speakers (flash video and html5 video)
[01:19] <Adarc> anybody knows where i can look at to find the problem?
[01:24] <k4ever_> hi all.  is there a way to start kde without phonon?  phonon is crashing my system..
[01:26] <linuxdude> hello
[03:10] <naryfa> Hi, does anybody know how to add IRC to Kopete?
[03:12] <naryfa> I searched Google and I only found some plugin that doesn't exist anymore
[03:12] <naryfa> that's a bummer :)
[03:15] <c_smith> does Kubuntu 12.04 use Pulse?
[03:15] <naryfa> I don't think anybody is around
[03:15] <naryfa> but I think it uses phonon
[03:16] <Phiscribe> naryfa i think they have pulled irc from kopete around kde 4.1, dunno why
[03:16] <c_smith> no, I mean for drivers. does it use ALSA + Pulse or just ALSA?
[03:16] <Unit193> pulse is installed by default.
[03:16] <naryfa> Phiscribe: booooo, and there is no other way you would know of?
[03:16] <c_smith> I'm not talking phonon, that runs on top of it.
[03:16] <c_smith> Unit193, is it activated?
[03:17] <Phiscribe> well, in my kubuntu, half the pulse stuff doesnt work, like mixers, i have to use alsamixer to get sound to unmute
[03:17] <naryfa> I had that issue on my custom built desktop
[03:17] <c_smith> Phiscribe, I have issues with Pulse in ffmpeg.
[03:19] <c_smith> in ffmpeg I would be testing some commands to record my desktop, if I use pulse on top of ALSA, I'd hear nothing, if I just used ALSA, I'd have sound, and that is the repo versions. thinking about installing them for ease as the git versions are being a headache.
[03:19] <Phiscribe> dont know of a way to get the irc prot back into kopete
[03:19] <naryfa> Does anybody here use Quassel?
[03:20] <naryfa> I'd like to know if it's possible to hide join/part messages
[03:23] <Phiscribe> eh im booted into windows atm, or id look
[03:23] <Phiscribe> but i think its under buffer or something
[03:24] <Phiscribe> and Hide events
[03:26] <naryfa> hmmm
[03:30] <naryfa> I can't find it, what's message redirection?
[03:33] <naryfa> Nope, can't find this
[03:33] <Phiscribe> like a notice that goes to one window cant be sent to another like server notices or something, give me a min ill go in other run with kde running
[03:35] <naryfa> ok
[03:42] <phi_scribe> hey who was asking about quassel hide joins, right click in the chat area  and get a hide events menu
[03:42] <naryfa> me
[03:43] <naryfa> awesome, thank you
[03:43] <phi_scribe> find it?
[03:43] <naryfa> yes
[03:43] <phi_scribe> cool
[03:43] <naryfa> I appreciate it
[03:43] <naryfa> hooray
[03:43] <naryfa> :)
[03:44] <naryfa> now the chat is clean
[03:44] <naryfa> I just started using KDE today
[03:44] <phi_scribe> its my favorite sexier than the rest
[03:45] <naryfa> I'm suffering desktop-environment-battle-fatigue after  Gnome, LXDE, and XFCE
[03:46] <Phiscribe> been in that battle, now im at peace, kde for good machines desktop, lxde for the older ones, icewm for the ancient ones
[03:47] <naryfa> my laptop is 6 years old, it is still capable of running kubuntu fairly smooth
[03:47] <naryfa> only 2gigs of RAM
[03:48] <naryfa> well, 6 years ago it wasn't "only" lol
[03:48] <Phiscribe> eh i said good and didnt mention age lol, i got a PII i still run
[03:49] <Phiscribe> no quad core, two dual cores and two single cores, (well three with the pii)
[03:50] <naryfa> what's its speed?
[03:50] <naryfa> and what can you do on it?
[03:51] <Phiscribe> the pii? 467mhz or something, stream audio, internet radio, light browsing, (no flash) picture display, that kinda thing
[03:51] <Phiscribe> use it for testing sometimes
[03:51] <naryfa> Quite nice
[03:51] <TheMiner> If using a P2 I would suggest running Puppy instead
[03:52] <Phiscribe> oh its not got a buntu on it i has anitx
[03:52] <naryfa> antix?
[03:52] <Phiscribe> its a distro
[03:53] <naryfa> the one from mepis?
[03:53] <Phiscribe> oh yeah mpeis based lol forgot
[03:53] <Phiscribe> 3 kubuntus 2 lubuntus 1 antix (forgot about the one upstaris)
[03:54] <Phiscribe> i got a ex wife and three kids that show up an all wanna facebook someplace
[03:54] <TheMiner> 1 Kubuntu, 1 Slack, 2 FreeBSD
[03:55] <naryfa> is there anything you can't do on FreeBSD?
[03:55] <TheMiner> Nope
[03:55] <naryfa> How about driver support?
[03:55] <TheMiner> FreeBSD is rock solid stable and the portage tree is excellent
[03:56] <TheMiner> Pretty good
[03:56] <TheMiner> had a few minor hiccups with an atheros wireless adapter sometime back
[03:56] <Phiscribe> ive never tried bsd, have meant too, but man i dont need another thing to tinker with
[03:56] <TheMiner> nothing a little rewrite on my end didnt fix
[03:56] <TheMiner> It is hard to put BSD down once you have started running it
[03:57] <Phiscribe> i wont be enticed! i got too much on my plate now lol
[03:57] <naryfa> Yeah, I find myself in the same den. Too much tinkering, and I can't use the system for anything productive.
[03:59] <naryfa> Do you experience many crashes in Kubuntu?
[03:59] <Phiscribe> you a coal miner TheMiner?
[03:59] <naryfa> Executable: amarok PID: 2052 Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[04:00] <TheMiner> Potash
[04:00] <TheMiner> Well I work at a potash mine
[04:00] <Phiscribe> ah, salty type, i live here in the coal fields
[04:01] <TheMiner> My day is spent programming PLC's and automating more and more of the mine
[04:01] <TheMiner> Am part of a mine rescue team and have been in a few coal mines
[04:02] <Phiscribe> sounds great
[04:02] <TheMiner> It's not a bad job
[04:02] <TheMiner> Am currently implementing an RFID tracking system for all underground personell
[04:02] <TheMiner> In the even of an emergency the system will be able to show the last known whereabouts of the miners
[04:03] <Phiscribe> thats  good idea
[04:03] <TheMiner> much easier to find them and get them out
[04:03] <Phiscribe> a
[04:03] <naryfa> and track their every move
[04:03] <TheMiner> that is exactly what they say
[04:03] <TheMiner> lol
[04:03] <TheMiner> and I am quite sure that the mine bosses will be doing exactly that
[04:03] <TheMiner> I can easily see how it can be used as a productivity tool
[04:04] <Phiscribe> about a year a go i live a county over and one of the nearby mines had an explosion, 38 died
[04:04] <TheMiner> We have already placed ip cameras in various places around the mine
[04:04] <TheMiner> Upper Big Branch coal mine
[04:04] <Phiscribe> yeah
[04:04] <TheMiner> 2008
[04:04] <Phiscribe> no 2010 i think
[04:04] <TheMiner> Very rough
[04:04] <TheMiner> yeah you are right
[04:05] <naryfa> Ok, sorry to interrupt, another quirk that's bugging me. The panel transparency level, is it possible to make it solid?
[04:05] <Phiscribe> which panel?
[04:05] <naryfa> the bottom one.... "taskbar"
[04:08] <phi_scribe> well, not sure thats part of the theme i think, might be theme specific im looking
[04:11] <phi_scribe> i think you might have to change the theme altogether or disable it globably
[04:11] <naryfa> yeah with all the animations, right?
[04:11] <phi_scribe> its the workspace theme in system settings
[04:12] <naryfa> ok,
[04:12] <naryfa> thanks
[04:13] <phi_scribe> sorry not up to speed on that one, i leave it trans
[04:14] <naryfa> and you can read it clearly?
[04:14] <Phiscribe> mostly, its a dark theme
[04:17] <naryfa> Ok, I messed something up, animations are taking 100% cpu, I have to restart. BRB
[04:22] <naryfa> Do you get application crashes often?
[04:22] <Phiscribe> well
[04:23] <Phiscribe> on the system i clean installed 12.04 not much but the one i upgraded from 11.10 yeah some
[04:23] <Phiscribe> bugs, mostly that im awaare of now and avoid, waiting on fix
[04:23] <Phiscribe> like the preview option in dolphis is buggy
[04:24] <Phiscribe> dolphin
[04:25] <naryfa> something got messed up really badly just now, my every window move or animation generates 100% cpu
[04:25] <Phiscribe> what did you turn on? lol
[04:25] <Phiscribe> turn it off!
[04:25] <Phiscribe> which process is it
[04:26] <naryfa> let me see
[04:26] <phi_scribe> use system monitor
[04:26] <phi_scribe> sort by cpu
[04:26] <naryfa> kwin
[04:28] <naryfa> OpenGL compositing (the default) has crashed KWin in the past.
[04:28] <naryfa> This was most likely due to a driver bug.
[04:28] <Phiscribe> i think my mouse died in the other room
[04:29] <Phiscribe> did you change any desktop effects
[04:29] <naryfa> yeah
[04:29] <naryfa> and it messed everything up
[04:30] <naryfa> it seems to be ok now I think
[04:30] <naryfa> I reenabled openGL
[04:30] <naryfa> I'll watch it
[04:31] <naryfa> I'm really tired of bugs
[04:31] <naryfa> REALLy
[04:31] <naryfa> Y
[04:34] <phi_scribe> yeah sorry you got a bad experience, im mostly over the bug  hurdle in 12.04
[04:36] <naryfa> You talk like you went through some crazy stuff too
[04:37] <Phiscribe> oh yeah 12.04 had nastiness when it came out at first, external drives spining all the time, processes eating cpu, the /var/run locations changed and some apps didnt know it
[04:38] <naryfa> oh man
[04:44] <naryfa> Ok, this is nicer, I changed the theme to air for netbooks
[04:46] <naryfa> are you still around?
[04:49] <naryfa> Ok, I'm out, time to get some sleep
[04:49] <naryfa> Thanks for your help today.
[04:49] <naryfa> Have a good night.
[05:14] <em> Is there any thing wrong with using firefox in kubuntu rather than rekonq?
[05:15] <em> I dont mean from a technical perspective I mean from a purist point of view.
[05:15] <em> it would be nice if there were a strictly kde version of firefox
[05:16] <mah454> How can customize default KDE for all users ?
[05:16] <Phiscribe> kde can give gtk app the kde look and feel
[05:49] <skreech__> em: No use whatever works
[05:49] <skreech__> mah454: /etc/skel
[05:50] <mah454> skreech__: what file must copy on this folder ?
[05:54] <Daskreech> mah454: The file that you want ?
[05:54] <mah454> Daskreech: I need change default KDE settings for all users
[05:54] <mah454> How can do this ?
[05:54] <Daskreech> mah454: I don't understand the question
[05:55] <mah454> Daskreech: what part ?
[05:55] <Daskreech> the folder /etc/skel gets copied to any new user you create
[05:55] <mah454> Daskreech: view ...
[05:55] <Daskreech> So if you want certain settings just set them up then copy them to /etc/skel
[05:55] <Daskreech> when a new user gets made they get all the settings from that directory
[05:56] <Daskreech> So to answer your question. The file that you want
[05:56] <mah454> Daskreech: ok , what files must be in /etc/skel ?
[05:57] <Daskreech> mah454: no files need to be in there
[05:57] <mah454> Daskreech: view ...
[05:57] <Daskreech> when you create a new user the files they get in ~ are from /etc/skel
[05:57] <mah454> Daskreech: I need change default KDE settings , (for remastering Kubuntu (New distro))
[05:57] <mah454> ok ?
[05:57] <Daskreech> Since they are config files they are all hidden fiels mostly
[05:57] <Daskreech> files
[05:58] <Daskreech> But just change the config files from a user you have already and copy them (without user info) into /etc/skel
[05:58] <mah454> this : .local , .kde , .config , .... ?
[05:58] <Daskreech> Right
[05:58] <mah454> ok
[05:59] <Daskreech> which ever ones you want
[05:59] <Daskreech> so if you only really care about the plasma settings you can copy the .kde/share/apps and .kde/share/config files for plasma
[06:00] <Daskreech> They will get copied over and then when KDE starts the first time it will take those settings for plasma and make default settings for everything else
[06:00] <Daskreech> same for any other application
[06:00] <mah454> Daskreech: I copy this folders in /etc/skel , but not copy to new user $HOME !
[06:00] <Daskreech> mah454: They should
[06:00] <mah454> sorry for bad english !
[06:01] <mah454> okey , I go to test ....
[06:02] <Daskreech> mah454: Ah right. Yes putting them in /etc/skel will copy  them to a new user $HOME
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:44] <kaddi> hi guys
[07:45] <kaddi> i accidentally klicked ignore on the kdewallet prompt when I was firing up kopete and now kopete won't let me connect my IM profiles. How can I manually start kdewallet so that it will let kopete access the stored password information?
[07:45] <kaddi> i can't reboot atm (important task running for the next 3-4h) and have already tried restarting kopete
[07:48] <lordievader> Hey kaddi, try the "KDE wallet" program or the "Kwalletmanger"
[07:49] <kaddi> hmm, mebbe the problem is bigger then >.< there's a kdewallet in there, but it seems empty
[07:49] <kaddi> it also hasn't prompted me for my password
[07:50] <lordievader> kaddi: Check out the "Access control" within the KDE wallet program, I guess/hope you can change something there.
[07:51] <kaddi> kopete is set to "always allow"
[07:53] <lordievader> kaddi: In the kwalletmanager do you have an entry for Kopete?
[07:53] <kaddi> well, i have under access control, but not in the wallet itself. the wallet itself seems completely empty
[07:54] <lordievader> kaddi: That is strange is the wallet enabled?
[07:54] <kaddi> how do I check that?
[07:55] <kaddi> i guess it's not enabled and that's the whole problem (or I hope it is)
[07:56] <lordievader> kaddi: You can see if it is enabled in the tab next to Access Control, its called Wallet Preferences
[07:59] <kaddi> well i have a check nedt to enable kde wallet
[08:00] <lordievader> kaddi: So it is enabled? What is set as the default wallet?
[08:00] <kaddi> kdewallet
[08:01] <lordievader> kaddi: Hmm it should work then, you could try to create a new wallet.
[08:08] <nafg_> Is there a gnucash built with SQLite support?
[08:14] <quan_> what`s this?
[08:14] <kaddi> a support channel
[08:15] <kaddi> lordievader: i got it to work by right-clicking the wallet and opening it and then restarting everything a number of times >.>
[08:21] <lordievader> kaddi: Ok, good to hear that it works now :)
[09:42] <blackdiamond> hi gud aft to all,
[09:43] <blackdiamond> can some one tell how can i edit search & launch activity on kde
[09:47] <blackdiamond> hello, can anybody answer me plz
[10:14] <arianna> hi, i've a problem with wine, i can't install it...
[10:14] <lordievader> arianna: Hey, how are you? How did you try to install wine?
[10:14] <arianna> when i select wine package aptitude propose just 1 solution which deselect wine..
[10:14] <arianna> my current arch is amd64
[10:15] <arianna> lordievader: fine thanks ^^
[10:15] <lordievader> arianna: Try using apt-get, aptitude is kind of outdated. "sudo apt-get install wine"
[10:16] <arianna> lordievader: you're right o.0
[10:17] <arianna> why is aptitude outdated?
[10:17] <lordievader> arianna: Not sure, but that is what I hear from other people, never used it myself actually.
[10:18] <arianna> lordievader: thank you for your help, have a nice day ^^
[10:18] <lordievader> arianna: Same to you.
[10:37] <reindeer> Q: Muon-updater, how to re-enable an update that has been "set to hold" (purged?), blender SVN in this case.. Help anyone?
[10:38] <lordievader> reindeer: Do you mean you locked the version of blender?
[10:38] <reindeer> i guess so..
[10:39] <lordievader> reindeer: Try Synaptic, imo a much better package manager than muon.
[10:41] <lordievader> reindeer: Then use the menu "package" to lock and unlock the versions.
[10:41] <reindeer> ok, i look if i missed that
[10:42] <reindeer> can see any menu  with "package" label
[10:42] <lordievader> reindeer: This is in Synaptic not Muon.
[10:42] <reindeer> oh well..
[10:43] <lordievader> reindeer: To install Synaptic issue the command: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:43] <reindeer> i kinda though if there is an option to lock, there must be one for unlock too
[10:44] <reindeer> and i remember i just mouseclicked it to not update,because those svn updates come allmost daily..
[10:44] <lordievader> reindeer: There probably is, but I would not know where it would be in Muon.
[10:44] <reindeer> ok, its kinda strange its not in plain sight..
[10:49] <reindeer> so to switch to synaptic, how to do the switch without mixing up my system?
[10:50] <lordievader> reindeer: Just installing it should do no harm, to do so open a terminal (Konsole) and type: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:51] <reindeer> yeah, i was thinking of how to make it the default on my system
[10:51] <lordievader> reindeer: What do you mean exactly?
[10:52] <reindeer> to make it the defaul updater, update packages, distr-updates, the whoel nine yards
[10:54] <lordievader> reindeer: Not sure if synaptic can do notifations, you should google that. However you can disable the notifications from Muon somewhere in it's settings.
[10:56] <reindeer> ok, thanks. That  "somewhere" is also my feeling, just havent really seen it, been looking though and even "muon help" in menu is unavailable
[10:57] <lordievader> reindeer: One of the reasons I dont use muon ;)
[11:00] <reindeer> hmm, looks like i hit a wall here. all i wanted was to (possibly) update blender, so that the "logicbricks after And10 are all duplicates" issue could be fixed, not today i guess then..
[11:01] <reindeer> the issue is not official bug name so dont google.. :)
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:59] <nag_> hi all, need some help on kjots application
[12:00] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[12:00] <BluesKaj> 'Morning mydogsnameisrudy
[12:00] <nag_> hi
[12:01] <nag_> need some help on kjots application
[12:06] <BluesKaj> nag_, http://userbase.kde.org/KJots
[12:10] <nag_> BluesKaj: hey, i installed already, but when i start the application for the 1st time it opens a windows & think its configuring. After some time it was hung
[12:11] <nag_> BluesKaj: So i killed the process and started. here i'm unable to write anything on it
[12:12] <BluesKaj> nag_, have you updated/upgraded since installing it , then if it's still hanging , run it from the terminal to see what errors it puts out
[12:13] <Smurphy> Just tried loading kjots - won't work... Can't open a new Book ...
[12:14] <nag_> BluesKaj: Ya i did that. i didnt c any error when i'm run it from terminal. It simply opens that application. Unable to write
[12:14] <nag_> Smurphy: yes can't able to open a new book & new page
[12:16] <nag_> BluesKaj: Smurphy: i have completly removed "dpkg --purge kjots" & restalled it. even that wont helpfull
[12:17] <BluesKaj> I have to reboot ...brb
[12:20] <Smurphy> nag_: ack ...
[12:20] <Smurphy> same here. Just testing on my other system which gets all point releases.
[12:21] <nag_> Smurphy: so , no sol
[12:22] <Smurphy> It works ...
[12:23] <Smurphy> running KDE 4.8.4 on my mac mini ...
[12:23] <Smurphy> weird. Works on the mac mini, but not on the Dell Precision ... *hmmm*
[12:23] <nag_> oh
[12:24] <nag_> Smurphy: how can we know that kde version
[12:24] <Smurphy> nag_: System settings,. Help button -> about KDE
[12:25] <BluesKaj> or dolphin
[12:25] <BluesKaj> or any kde app
[12:25] <nag_> Smurphy:  ya got it. my version 4.8.4 (4.8.4)
[12:26] <Smurphy> weird ... Did you setup the kmail env ?
[12:26] <Smurphy> did not on my Dell ...
[12:26] <nag_> Smurphy: i'm using thunderbird mail
[12:28] <Smurphy> me too ...
[12:28] <Smurphy> ok - just saw that I have tons of UPdates to apply to my system.
[12:28] <Smurphy> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:28] <Smurphy> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_main_i18n_Translation-en
[12:29] <Smurphy> Seems an update process didn't run correctly. Will try again later :)
[12:29] <nag_> Smurphy:  my system is updated one
[12:30] <nag_> Smurphy: Should we need to restart our system for this application once we installed
[12:32] <Smurphy> no. Under linux - the only times you need to reboot the system is in case of a kernel update, or if the init-daemon can't reload itself (libraries).
[12:33] <nag_> k
[12:33] <Smurphy> If Kubuntu needs rebooting - it will tell you ;)
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, or something like reloading alsa after sound card/driver installs
[12:33] <Smurphy> even if they reboot too often for my taste :)
[12:34] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Nope. I remove all drivers and add them back again after manually
[12:34] <Smurphy> :}
[12:34] <BluesKaj> that's reather drastic ...why the fear of rebooting ?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Smurphy,^
[12:35] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Why _should_ I reboot ?
[12:35] <Smurphy> :}
[12:35]  * BluesKaj shrugs , nm
[12:37] <BluesKaj> well i have to boot into the other drive ...bbl
[12:42] <nag_> Smurphy: hey is it working on ur dell
[12:42] <nag_> kjots
[12:47] <Smurphy> nag_: I think I found out what the issue is ...
[12:47] <Smurphy> yup. I found out what is wrong.
[12:47] <nag_> Smurphy: oh its gud to hear ... what is that
[12:47] <nag_> Smurphy: P(
[12:47] <nag_> Smurphy: :(
[12:48] <Smurphy> Go to System Settings -> Personal Information
[12:48] <Smurphy> In there - you'll have the serveral entries with Notes etc. broken entries.
[12:48] <Smurphy> I took the "Local Notes" entry and made sure it pointed to an existing directory.
[12:48] <Smurphy> Then it became a "Ready" state - and now I can work with it :)
[12:50] <nag_> how did u do that. i mean pointed to the dir
[12:52] <Smurphy> Click on the row with "Local Notes" - and click on Modify (Right top side)
[12:52] <nag_> k
[12:52] <nag_> after that
[12:53] <Smurphy> If the directory exists - you save it. The "Local Notes" entry should go to the ready state.
[12:53] <nag_> this is the entry "local"
[12:53] <nag_> this is the entry "/home/nag/.local/share//notes/MmQRT8qyAD"
[12:53] <Smurphy> Whatever. You need it to point to a local Directory.
[12:53] <Smurphy> Yes - that is fine.
[12:56] <nag_> Smurphy: its working for new page, but new book its not working
[13:01] <Smurphy> Click on Notes -> the you can add a book.
[13:09] <nag_> Smurphy: thnx man its working... :)
[13:10] <BluesKaj> !cookie | Smurphy
[13:16] <Smurphy> lol ...
[13:16] <Smurphy> :}
[13:36] <nag_> BluesKaj: can i open a private channel
[14:24] <dcorbin_work> With a recent re-install, my tray has an icon on the left edge that I don't recognize 3 small spheres, red, blue and green.  What is it?
[14:24] <dcorbin_work> It seems to be called "Activities", but what IS it?
[14:26] <lordievader> dcorbin_work: Let's see if I can find that video explaining activities.
[14:27] <lordievader> dcorbin_work: Yes, I think it was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJJ4tG4lFQ
[14:30] <dcorbin_work> lordievader: thanks
[14:37] <Daskreech> dcorbin_work: ot
[14:37] <Daskreech> its   the Plasma concpet of tying together a number of things you are doing that are connected to each other into a single space
[14:38] <slestak_work> anyone using Search and Launch on a netbook with 12.04?
[14:39] <slestak_work> Is it possible to edit the apps that show below the search box?
[14:39] <slestak_work> nevermind, found it
[14:50] <dcorbin_work> I watched the video, and I googled a few articles.  For me, it's another layer on top of virtual desktops that offers little more.  I'm a very light user of virtual desktops.  Activities seems to add a bit more dynamic-ness and less geography to it, but I doesn't really seem helpful.  (Just an observation)
[14:53] <Riddell> dcorbin_work: just ignore it then and remove the applet
[14:53] <dcorbin_work> I probably will.
[15:44] <Riddell> alpha 3 candidates images for the testing!
[15:44] <Riddell> anyone who wants to help welcome in #kubuntu-devel
[16:00] <em> dcorbin_work: how are you supposed to use the activities thing? I don't get it.
[16:03] <Daskreech> em: It's a grouping of your tasks and applications
[16:03] <Daskreech> Think of it as saved sessions
[16:14] <em> Daskreech: could be useful if you got used to it
[16:27] <Daskreech> em: Yes it can
[16:38] <waterpie> hi all
[16:38] <waterpie> is there a way to remove the transparency of windows title bar?
[16:40] <waterpie> is there a way to remove transparency?
[16:45] <waterpie> is there a way to remove transparency?
[16:49] <Daskreech> waterpie: What transparency?
[17:00] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:33] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:38] <DarthFrog> Ah, the global nature of the Internet.  It's 10:39 AM here on the left coast of North America. :-)  So, good morning to you.
[17:39] <lordievader> DarthFrog: Lovely thing, ain't it :)
[17:48] <mydogsnameisrudy> DarthFrog:  left coast ? is that east or west
[17:52] <DarthFrog> west.  I'm in BC.
[17:59] <gani> hello everyone... i am not able to drag select with my my mouse in kubuntu....  anyone here knows how to correct that??
[18:05] <gani> is this related to  Drag start time and Drag start distance settings  in mouse settings ??
[18:43] <yarinse> hola, par copiar toda la carpeta home cual es el comando en nautilus?
[18:44] <yarinse> sudo nautilus /home  ?
[18:45] <relisher> !sp | yarinse
[18:45] <Unit193> !es
[19:05] <awesome> Am I alone?
[19:05] <daniel_____> No
[21:03] <user_> I'm noob
[21:03] <genii-around> user_: Hello. If you have some question about your Kubuntu, just to generally ask the channel and someone may answer if they know.
[21:04] <user_> ok
[21:04] <dougl> ok
[21:15] <davis> hola
[21:16] <Linkmaster> !es
[22:51] <BarkingFish> Evening all - is there any way whatsoever that I can stop sudo keep asking me for my password when I want to do stuff please?  I know I should use sudo to do things, but half the time I can't be bothered, I just run as SU so that I can get things done without being bugged for my password everytime.
[22:52] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: I think there was a PolicyKit KCM that allowed you to change what operations needed you to provide password however I have next to no idea what happened to it
[22:53] <BarkingFish> Damn.  Would that be something I'd need to consult KDE over?
[22:54] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: You can try that however I'm not sure if they have something to do with this
[22:55] <Quintasan> Might as well ask over in PolicyKit
[22:56] <genii-around> BarkingFish:Maybe something like %admin ALL=NOPASSWD  for the sudoers file
[22:56] <BarkingFish> well if it was a KCM, I'm sure they'd know if it's included in KDE now or not :)
[22:58] <BarkingFish> ok
[22:58] <Linkmaster> BarkingFish: couldn't you technically make the 'root' account? such that you wouldn't have to use sudo anymore
[22:58] <BarkingFish> Linkmaster, officially, we are recommended not to work in root
[22:59]  * genii-around hands BarkingFish a cookie for being good
[22:59] <Linkmaster> Ahh, for devel stuff, hmm..
[22:59] <BarkingFish> and we're instructed not to teach anyone else how to make a root account.  I would rather practise what I'm supposed to preach to people, even though I disagree with it.
[22:59]  * Linkmaster nods
[22:59] <Linkmaster> thats a good practice
[22:59] <BarkingFish> If people know what they're doing, they should be allowed to use a root account if they wish
[23:00] <Linkmaster> I was just wondering aloud, thats what I'd personally do if I got tired of all the 'sudoing' =P And if I'm doing a lot of heavy sudo work, I just do 'sudo -i', and I'll be fine till I log out of that
[23:00] <BarkingFish> I've been on linux for approaching 12 years, going way back to Mandrake 8.2 or something silly.  But if I'm teaching it, I need to be doing it.
[23:01] <BarkingFish> I only work in root because I get fed up of sudo asking me for my password everytime I want to do something simple, like reload a module or something.
[23:02] <Linkmaster> thats why I use 'sudo -i'
[23:02]  * Linkmaster doesn't know if thats a bad practice or not
[23:02] <BarkingFish> there used to be a list of people who could use sudo and you could set a no password option in it, I can't remember how to write the file though, and how to change the options in it
[23:03] <BarkingFish> i think it was something like /etc/sudoers or something
[23:03] <Linkmaster> You can change that in the system settings, that I do know
[23:04] <SeH> hella
[23:04] <SeH> i wanna to add new keyboard layouts in kubuntu
[23:04] <SeH> howto
[23:06] <BarkingFish> SeH, if you press ALT + F2, and type systemsettings in the box which pops up, hit enter and go to Input devices
[23:07] <BarkingFish> when you get there, click Keyboard and then hit the Layouts tab, that should give you options in there
[23:07] <BarkingFish> you can add new layouts from within that part of the setup
[23:10] <SeH> brakingfish; I cant see layouts in keyboard sttings
[23:10] <SeH> barkingfish ²
[23:12] <BarkingFish> there should be a setting there for it.
[23:13] <BarkingFish> There should be, under Keyboard, 3 or 4 tabs in the right side of the screen, one of them should be Layouts
[23:13] <BarkingFish> Which version of Kubuntu are you using please?
[23:14] <SeH> Barkingfich; kubuntu 12.04
[23:14] <SeH> there is 3 tabs
[23:15] <SeH> material; dispositions; advanced
[23:18] <SeH> barkingfish, ping
[23:19] <BarkingFish> Are you in the same place as I am?
[23:19] <BarkingFish> Is your system localised in English?
[23:21] <SeH> no in french, but I am in the input device (périphérique d entrée)
[23:21] <BarkingFish> Let's just make sure you're in absolutely the right place.  - You should have system settings open:  Click "Input Devices" in the Hardware section, then click on the Keyboard button in the left hand bar.  Three tabs should appear on the right side, Hardware  Layouts   Advanced
[23:21] <BarkingFish> It should then be the center tab of those three which you need
[23:22] <SeH> BarkingFish; Okayy thanks I find it :)
[23:22] <SeH> its (dispositions) layouts
[23:22] <BarkingFish> Excellent
[23:23] <BarkingFish> What you need to do, you might need to install full language support so that you have access to other keyboard layouts also - if you find that the one you want is not supported
[23:25] <SeH> aha Ok thankyou Barkingfish
[23:25] <BarkingFish> if you want to do that, quickly, SeH - go back to the main menu of system settings, and click "Locale"
[23:26] <BarkingFish> then click System languages, and you will get told if you have full language support or not, and if not, you will be given the option to install the language support at that moment
[23:27] <SeH> yes the blue flag; I ll add the new language from it (i think its done); BarkingFish
[23:28] <BarkingFish> ok :)


[08:59] <w7z> sort of morning
[15:38] <euphogeeza> Hi All. I have bzr installed on a windows box and trying to get post-commit emails working. I think I have everything in place but no mails are being sent.
[15:39] <euphogeeza> I thought I'd look in the trace (log?) but can't find it.
[15:39] <euphogeeza> If I do a "bzr help commands" at the command prompt I am getting "failed to open trace file [Errno: 13] Permission denied".
[15:39] <euphogeeza> Is this trace file == the log file?
[15:40] <euphogeeza> ...and where should it be?
[15:40] <euphogeeza> If I don't know where to look I can't check the permissions :-(
[15:41] <euphogeeza> I set the BZR_LOG environment variable (with "SET BZR_LOG=<path>") and now get "failed to open trace file [Errno: 22] Invalid argument".
[16:00] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: `bzr version` will tell you where the log file resides
[16:01] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: look for the 'Bazaar log file' line
[16:05] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: OK Thanks. I'll go look...
[16:08] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: OK I see the path "D:\Server Data\BZR" is listed...
[16:08] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: that's a slightly weird path for the log
[16:09] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: is BZR_HOME set?
[16:09] <LarstiQ> because that might influence the path
[16:11] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: yes and BZR_LOG. I tried to force bzr to write to a location which I knew.
[16:11] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: both set to "D:\Server Data\BZR"
[16:12] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: ...no log file created though.
[16:12] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: so if you're setting BZR_LOG, try "D:\Server Data\BZR\.bzr.log"
[16:14] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: trying it now...
[16:19] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: :-( still no log file created. Where is the default location that the log file, if BZR_LOG is not set?
[16:23] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: home = osutils._get_home_dir(); return os.path.join(home, '.bzr.log')
[16:23] <LarstiQ> which on windows is *looks up*
[16:24] <LarstiQ> pff
[16:25] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: quite a bit of code
[16:25] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: if you unset BZR_LOG and BZR_HOME, what does it show?
[16:28] <jml> we wrote this – http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372760/ – to figure out the timestamp of the first commit made in a branch that then got merged into trunk.
[16:28] <jml> is there a faster way of doing it?
[16:30] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: I unset BZR_LOG only, then bzr version => "D:\Server Data\"\.bzr.log ???
[16:31] <euphogeeza> I unset BZR_HOME also, and bzr version now returns: d:\local_data\<username>My Documents\.bzr.log
[16:31] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: aha to the latter
[16:31] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: to the former, wait, are the " included?
[16:31] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: that would be problematic
[16:32] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: yes. I have now found the .bzr.log. Yey!
[16:32] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: good :)
[16:33] <euphogeeza> LarstiQ: I now have something to look at while trying to find the reason for post commit emails not being sent. Some thing for tomorrow. Many thanks for your help.
[16:33] <LarstiQ> euphogeeza: np
[16:45] <jml> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1372793/ <- two versions of getting the timestamp of the first revno of a branch
[16:46] <jml> I wonder which is faster / better
[16:46] <jml> james_w: ^^
[16:47] <jml> it cheats
[16:54] <james_w> jml, cunning
[16:54] <james_w> no idea which is better
[16:58] <jml> I wonder if any of the experts in bzr internals monitor this channel any more.
[17:01] <LarstiQ> they do, but not as intensively as in the past
[17:05] <LarstiQ> jml: Graph.find_lca?
[17:07] <jml> LarstiQ: I want the non-leftmost revision immediately after the lca, I think
[17:07]  * LarstiQ nods
[17:07] <jml> Ideally, if there were some way of retrieving when 'bzr branch' were run, that would be even better.
[17:08] <LarstiQ> jml: something with a pre_command hook?
[17:09] <jml> LarstiQ: yeah, maybe that might be a good thing to do in future.
[17:16] <LarstiQ> jml: I'm too exhausted to come up with a better response, sorry :/
[17:16] <jml> LarstiQ: no worries
[17:16] <jml> LarstiQ: thanks for the help
[20:23] <aquarius> I have a repo on a server I own which I push to via ssh. What's the easiest way that I can, on that server, when a new rev is pushed to trunk, automatically export trunk to a folder? (for deployment) I don't need jenkins or other super-complex stuff like that just yet :)


[01:45]  * smkellat goes to reconfigure his ZNC on DO to keep a bit more of a scrollback since power is flickering while the snow is falling
[01:45] <Unit193> Perhaps enable SASL while you're at it. :>
[02:06] <smkellat> There, I think I got it right.  Spending years fiddling with an S/360 mainframe as a fed doesn't help with maintaining breadth of knowledge of systems.


[06:04] <pavlushka> Kilos: I missed one here yesterday
[06:04] <pavlushka> [00:36:12] <locodir-user> hi
[06:04] <pavlushka> [00:36:15] <locodir-user> i am new here
[06:04] <pavlushka> [00:36:32] <locodir-user> anyone online?
[06:06] <pavlushka> Kilos: and sonu_k having network problem, so he posted using windows on askubuntu, poor him.
[06:09] <pavlushka> and I came to know that his k stands for Kumar, means not married yet, :p
[07:24] <Kilos> aw


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[10:06] <mup> Bug #1894079 opened: Release notifications should be displayed in more sections <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894079>
[14:48] <mup> Bug #1894116 opened: Machines can't be deployed after deselecting all archs in the "Ubuntu extra architectures" package repo <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894116>
[14:54] <mup> Bug #1894116 changed: Machines can't be deployed after deselecting all archs in the "Ubuntu extra architectures" package repo <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894116>
[14:57] <mup> Bug #1894116 opened: Machines can't be deployed after deselecting all archs in the "Ubuntu extra architectures" package repo <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894116>


[01:48] <blr> wgrant: would it worth be including the new head in the payload?
[01:51] <blr> and maybe a timestamp?
[01:53] <blr> commented on the MP
[01:53] <wgrant> blr: Timestamp maybe, but all the ref changes are included.
[01:53] <wgrant> Already.
[02:21] <blr> wgrant: not sure I understand the change to the signature of WebhookDeliveryJob.create
[02:41] <wgrant> blr: Adding delivery_id and event_type so they can be passed down to create_request to be included in the request headers.
[02:52] <blr> ah I see, thanks


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[05:44] <glitchd> is there a way to configure thunar to show the dvd drive even when it empty?
[13:48] <alpha_Aquila> Hello
[13:51] <alpha_Aquila> Who knows why midori is no longer for xubuntu 17.10_64 ?
[13:58] <flocculant> alpha_Aquila: two seconds
[13:59] <flocculant> alpha_Aquila: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=864951
[14:00] <flocculant> it can be built - but given it's seeing no development and thus no security concerns have been addressed - I'd not
[14:17] <alpha_Aquila> 'k someone knows which web browser have similars performaces like midori : quickness, lightness...
[14:18] <flocculant> not I
[15:03] <alpha_Aquila> flocculant: thanks
[19:38] <VolK> Will this distro let me run a xmr cpu miner?
[20:01] <ilz0l3nd3> Annoying question: xkill won't close this random WINE game running in full-screen that won't let me switch windows, what do?
[20:02] <ilz0l3nd3> Haven't done proper research because I would do that on my computer which is stuck on a solid black screen that is allegedly a mass effect demo with a cursor
[20:03] <ilz0l3nd3> Alt tab shows me things but when I switch to them mass effect still blocks the whole screen
[20:04] <ilz0l3nd3> I should really just reboot...
[20:04] <well_laid_lawn> you could try going to a tty - ctrl+alt+f2 - then kill it
[20:05] <ilz0l3nd3> The cursor switches to an x when I use xkill but nothing happens when I click things with the x
[20:05] <ilz0l3nd3> OK, I did that, still can't actually see the tty. What precisely should I say?
[20:07] <ilz0l3nd3> I think I'll just log out, I'm impatient


[00:17] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Something about this particular case, I think - https://pastebin.canonical.com/142724/ but that code didn't change in the last deployment and hasn't changed for some time
[00:18] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Can you file a bug with details and referencing the OOPS ID, please?
[00:18] <cjwatson> We still have relatively few users of git-based MPs, so it's probably specific to some subcase of that.
[00:48] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Indeed, it looks like any git diff that involves an extended header line will fail.
[00:49] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Well, other than "index <hash>..<hash> <mode>".
[01:08] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Never mind, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1510337
[01:12] <blr> cjwatson: hmm fun, I thought we had a few git tests
[01:12] <cjwatson> We do, but they don't cover extended header lines.
[01:12] <cjwatson> I'm fixing that.
[01:13] <cjwatson> (Or at least they don't cover most extended header lines.)
[01:50] <cjwatson> blr: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/git-patch-headers/+merge/275792
[02:05] <sergio-br2> ergh, I just changed some stuff in the packaging, and it's not building for ARM...
[02:05] <sergio-br2> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/222927857/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.libretro-gpsp_0.9%2Br247~10~ubuntu15.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[02:06] <sergio-br2> this gba emu has ARM dynarec which I think is hard to build in the launchpad, but last time it built...
[02:08] <sergio-br2> the diff: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libretro/libretro/gpsp-libretro-debian/revision/10
[02:08] <sergio-br2> I'm pretty sure it's not my fault...
[02:11] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: Launchpad itself doesn't really have a whole lot to do with this.  I suspect you'd do better to diff build logs and/or consult an ARM/toolchain expert
[02:12] <sergio-br2> hum
[02:12] <cjwatson> You have a working build log from before, so you can diff it and see what compiler options changed etc.
[02:12] <cjwatson> And try changing them back and seeing if it works again
[02:13] <sergio-br2> weird, there's this fstack-protector-strong, I didn't add that
[02:13] <cjwatson> e.g. perhaps the change from -fstack-protector to (implicitly via dpkg-buildflags) -fstack-protector-strong makes some kind of difference for some reason
[02:13] <sergio-br2> the working log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/222742385/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.libretro-gpsp_0.9%2Br247~9~ubuntu15.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[02:13] <cjwatson> Don't tell us, diff it yourself please
[02:13] <sergio-br2> :p
[02:14] <cjwatson> You effectively switched to dpkg-buildflags by changing to DEB_*FLAGS_MAINT_*
[02:14] <sergio-br2> yup
[02:14] <cjwatson> That's normally a good direction to take, but in some cases it needs further overrides, and it's certainly a place to look for problems of this kind
[02:14] <sergio-br2> before I was overriding it
[02:15] <sarnold> also -g flag
[02:15] <sergio-br2> weird, the CFLAGS should be -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security
[02:16] <sergio-br2> not with this fstack-protector-strong
[02:16] <sarnold> though it's hard to imagine either influencing a section named .jit
[02:16] <sergio-br2> I removed the -g, so it was building without debug symbols right?
[02:16] <cjwatson> $ dpkg-buildflags --get CFLAGS
[02:16] <cjwatson> -g -O2 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security
[02:17] <sergio-br2> Mine is -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security
[02:17] <cjwatson> It depends on the release.
[02:17] <sergio-br2> why yours is protect?
[02:17] <sergio-br2> humm
[02:17] <sergio-br2> mine is 14.04
[02:17] <cjwatson> Right, which is different.
[02:18] <cjwatson> The Launchpad build you're referring to is vivid, so unless you know the packaging toolchain well enough to know all the differences then maybe you might be well advised to check there?
[02:18] <sergio-br2> ok, so probably this is not the problem, the log from 14.04 has -fstack-protector too
[02:18] <sergio-br2> I'll try to remove the -g i guess
[02:18] <cjwatson> The vivid log has -fstack-protector-strong, which is different.  I'm not saying that that is definitely the problem or anything, but you should check all the obvious differences.
[02:18] <sergio-br2> with -s is no debug symbol right?
[02:19] <sergio-br2> * the 14.04 also failed
[02:19] <cjwatson> -s?  what?
[02:19] <sergio-br2> -s -O2
[02:19] <cjwatson> Do you mean -g?
[02:19] <sergio-br2> instead -g -O2
[02:19] <cjwatson> Omit it, don't make up some random other flag :)
[02:19] <sergio-br2> ok :)
[02:20] <cjwatson> Should just need to add -g to *_MAINT_STRIP
[02:21] <sergio-br2> yup
[02:21] <sergio-br2> let's see
[02:22] <blr> cjwatson: so many fun cases to handle in this code...
[02:23] <blr> that seems like a good approach though, certainly trying to match every possible extended header could be problematic in the future?
[02:25] <cjwatson> Yeah, there are enough entries that I'd rather treat it as an open-ish set
[02:57] <sergio-br2> cjwatson, it worked
[11:18] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: wgrant: Is there a problem with git hosting ATM?  I'm seeing a Jenkins job that started failing in the last hour, and I've noticed rumblings about problems in other channels.
[11:19] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Can you link to details?
[11:19] <cjwatson> (wgrant is on holiday)
[11:20] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: I'm seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/12978751/ in a Jenkins job that was working about an hour ago.
[11:21] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: And the rumblings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12978753/
[11:22] <cjwatson> ouch
[11:23] <cjwatson> investigating
[11:23] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks.
[11:38] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: Fixed now; maas decided to turn on dnssec validation on one of the internal nameservers, which doesn't work so well for .internal names.
[11:38] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Thanks muchly.
[11:39] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Have let the other folks who were hitting issues know as well. :)
[20:08] <Cysioland> Did I do good by changing that bug's project, or do I need to revert it some way and report a new bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1507957
[20:24] <dobey> Cysioland: ask in #ubuntu for help about reporting ubuntu bugs; this channel is more about questions about how to use launchpad itself, and not for answquering questions about how projects that use launchpad manage their bugs
[20:24] <teward> and bug related questions like that are likely supposed to be in #ubuntu-bugs (bug triage questions usually end up there)
[20:25] <dobey> oh right, yeah, #ubuntu-bugs
[20:25] <teward> :)
[20:25] <dobey> (so many irc channels, can't remember them all if i don't hang out in them)
[20:25] <Cysioland> On #ubuntu nobody responds, maybe #ubuntu-bugs will work
[20:26] <teward> dobey: happens to us all :0


[03:11] <garfield> ok for how long?
[03:12] <stdin> try joining now
[07:52] <Myrtti> Yarrr.
[07:57] <nalioth> avast! it's Myrtti!
[09:27] <ubotu> h1st0 called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:28] <Madpilot> done for by Myrtti. Spamming idiot.
[09:28] <Myrtti> my finger is on the trigger on glock
[11:50] <guay> ola
[12:05] <jussi01> great... another ola....
[12:05] <mc44> ola ola, ola ola, feeling hot hot hot
[12:06] <jussi01> lol
[12:39] <elkbuntu> thankfully it's only 3 lines usually
[02:39] <Myrtti> hum?!
[02:39] <Myrtti> that sandy person again?
[02:40] <Seveas> Myrtti, care to elaborate?
[02:40] <Myrtti> (s)he's been on the channel asking for help for gutsy a few times already
[02:40] <Myrtti> has a way of repeating the questions over and over
[02:40] <Myrtti> or just having difficulties undestanding the answers
[02:42] <elkbuntu> and annoyingly addresses people with lt and gt
[03:05] <ubotu> maddash called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:10] <Pier8> ahoy mates!
[03:11] <jdong> oh geez, is that thing today??
[03:11] <Hobbsee> ahoy!
[03:11] <Hobbsee> jdong: seems so.  the year goes quickly.
[03:11] <jdong> yes it does
[03:11] <Pici> Avast!
[03:11] <GazzaK> och aye da noo jimmy (/me just got home from Scotland)
[03:12] <jdong> VISTA ENT-EN-VOL UNLK ORiON!
[03:12] <jdong> wait not that kind of pirate...
[03:13] <GazzaK> lol
[03:15] <Pier8> hehehehe
[03:29] <GazzaK> ouch
[03:30] <PriceChild> Hey Gary :)
[03:30] <PriceChild> what's "keelhaul"ing?
[03:31] <Gary> tying to a rope and dragged under a boat
[03:31] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: ARRRR!!!!!!
[03:31] <Gary> over one side, under the keel and out the other side
[03:31] <Gary> repeat as required :p
[03:32] <Gary> I just ghosted someone using my nick who is a op in #bash :p
[03:32] <LjL> he'll rm rf you
[03:34] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, yaaaarrrghhhhh matey!!!!
[03:34] <Gary> ahh, level for auto-op in #bash is set to 0
[03:34] <PriceChild> how be you this fine swashbuckling evening?
[03:35] <jdong> "swashbuckling"?
[03:35] <PriceChild> jdong, yes, swashbuckling?
[03:35] <PriceChild> Gary, real pirates don't cry
[03:36] <Gary> lol
[03:37] <Gary> help help, I'm being repressed
[03:37] <Gary> hehe
[03:38] <Gary> hows Seveas ?
[03:38] <Gary> work gone quiet yet?
[03:38] <Seveas> slightly
[03:38] <Seveas> we're moving from samba to active directory
[03:38] <Seveas> which I don't have to maintain :)
[03:38] <Gary> still having to support windows then
[03:38] <Seveas> so less work
[03:39] <Seveas> and end of all windows support
[03:39] <Gary> yay
[03:39] <Pici> But then what will you do?
[03:39] <Seveas> instead, I'm writing free software :)
[03:39] <Seveas> and probably getting a trip to singapore
[03:39] <LjL> for free
[03:39] <Gary> Pici, he will have more time for op abuse then :-)
[03:39] <Pici> Yay!
[03:39] <LjL> ah well, if that's for free too
[03:40] <Gary> language!
[03:40] <Gary> :p
[03:40] <Pici> English!
[03:40] <Seveas> bite me :p
[03:40] <LjL> done
[03:40] <Pici> Dont tempt him
[03:40] <Seveas> yeah, you were faster :)
[03:40] <Hobbsee> damn, tried at the same time.
[03:40] <Pici> see, too late.
[03:40] <Hobbsee> bloody au lag.
[03:42] <PriceChild> Who is <bnrubin##gmail?com> ?
[03:42] <Gary> damn, I need more access here :p
[03:42] <Pici> PriceChild: Thats me
[03:42] <PriceChild> Hey Pici :)
[03:42] <Pici> Hi!
[03:42] <Gary> ha
[03:42] <Gary> haha
[03:42] <LjL> pff, right when my mom was pestering me about the fact that i reject emails bigger than 60k
[03:42] <LjL> now stop kids
[03:42] <jussi01> lol
[03:42] <Hobbsee> right.
[03:43] <Seveas> playground++
[03:43] <PriceChild> *whistles*
[03:43] <Gary> wassn't me
[03:43] <Gary> it was him ---->
[03:43] <PriceChild> Daviey, disgusting... crossing the line!
[03:43] <PriceChild> get out
[03:43] <LjL> Gary: your arrow is pointing to my "Op" button
[03:43] <PriceChild> :P
[03:43] <Seveas> end of playtime
[03:43] <LjL> but i know it was an op
[03:43] <Seveas> incoming complaint
[03:43] <jdong> Gary: my imaginary friend bob? yeah...
[03:43] <Hobbsee> Seveas: oh, who?
[03:43] <Seveas> zipper
[03:44] <Hobbsee> fun
[03:44] <LjL> yuppie
[03:44] <Seveas> banned from -offtopic for illegal things (DRM removing) after repeated warnings in #ubuntu
[03:44] <Seveas> and later banned for evading the original one
[03:44] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[03:44] <PriceChild> linuxbeast, please change your real name.
[03:44] <PriceChild> linux_user400354, anything I can help you with?
[03:44] <zipper> Is there any kind of form or something you should fill out in order to make a complaint about operator abuse?
[03:45] <PriceChild> zipper, one moment please while a few of us catch up on logs.
[03:45] <zipper> Roger that
[03:45] <LjL> PriceChild: or rather, just go away. look at the clone
[03:45] <PriceChild> aha
[03:46] <PriceChild> Forgot to check hostmasks.... will remove them in a couple of minutes if no reply.
[03:46] <Hobbsee> zipper: have you visited #kubuntu before?
[03:46] <LjL> i banned them yesterday from #ubuntu. admittedly they hadn't said anything, but two clones with such realnames..
[03:46] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, yes, several times
[03:47] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: right, so the ban is definetly you, i take it.
[03:47] <z1pp3r> Uhm, i'm not banned in #kubuntu
[03:48] <z1pp3r> I was talking about DRM in #ubuntu, got told it was off-topic, so i went to #ubuntu-offtopic to ask the same question, just to get banned
[03:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, you were asking in -offtopic earlier today how to get around DRM protected songs?
[03:48] <z1pp3r> Yes
[03:48] <Seveas> you got told it eas illegal and we don't support/allow it
[03:48] <Seveas> s/eas/was/
[03:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, could you go check the terms of purchase for where you got the songs from please?
[03:48] <z1pp3r> Seveas, and as i told you, it is _not_ illegal for me. Different countries has different laws you know.
[03:49] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, But freenode, and ubuntu aren't in your country.
[03:49] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, i probably could, but a court ruling made those terms unimportant. It is always legal to remove DRM here.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: do you happen to have links to fullrate.dk?
[03:49] <PriceChild> *doesn't care about where you are as it has no relevance*
[03:49] <Seveas> z1pp3r, and our policy is not to allow/support it
[03:49] <Seveas> which was explained to you
[03:50] <Seveas> if you don't want to follow channel policies, you are not welcome
[03:50] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, But then i dont understand the whole non-free repositories thing... With the one law for every country policy and all
[03:50] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, hmm?
[03:50] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, you use those repositories, if you accept the license of them, and it is legal for you to do so.
[03:51] <PriceChild> That is made very clear.
[03:51] <z1pp3r> and it's legal for me to remove DRM, also made very clear
[03:51] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, so on your return, on a very different ip, not like a new dhcp ip, you immediately go against the banning op.... I think that's ban evasion myself.
[03:52] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, I've made it very clear that this is #*buntu*, and afaik freenode policy also.
[03:52] <z1pp3r> Seveas, thank you captain obvious, but a notice about it not being allowed in -offtopic would've been nice. I can see why it doesnt belong in #ubuntu, but how would i know about the -offtopic? Usually anything goes inthere
[03:52] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: anything #*ubuntu* follows the guidelines.  if you read the guidelines, you'd know this.
[03:52] <Hobbsee> if you read !o4o, you'd also know this.
[03:52] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, thats my mistake, and i'm sorry for that. Didn't try to evade my ban, just got home and logged on irc
[03:53] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, dont recall me ever being banned from kubuntu
[03:53] <PriceChild> Ok I think I'll accept that as a reason for the change.
[03:54] <z1pp3r> As you might've noticed, i havent mentioned that for the same reason
[03:54] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: hm?
[03:54] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, I'm willing to bet it is... judging by the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:54] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, i might've been, but i cant recall me being banned
[03:57] <jdong> This is none of my business, but it sounds like a simple misunderstanding of channel policy -- z1pp3r thought the ops means no piracy in #ubuntu rather than no piracy in #*buntu*...
[03:57] <z1pp3r> but... its not... piracy.... =/
[03:57] <z1pp3r> but yeah, other than that you're right
[03:59] <Pici> z1pp3r: Just because you do not think it is or should be piracy does not negate the fact that there are laws against it.
[03:59] <jdong> z1pp3r: regardless of what it is, the Ubuntu policies set for these channels disallow its discussion, whether or not it's legal in your jurisdiction. Can you accept that while you are in Ubuntu's domains, it is not to be discussed?
[03:59] <z1pp3r> Pici, if you had bothered reading what i've been saying, a court order in my country made it legal to remove DRM.
[03:59] <PriceChild> Ok, give us a second and I'll give you a decision.
[03:59] <z1pp3r> jdong, ofcourse
[04:00] <LjL> z1pp3r, the jurisdiction that applies for these channel is *not* your country's
[04:00] <jdong> ok, that's all I wanted to clarify; this is the IRC council's domain and I didn't mean to disturb.
[04:00] <z1pp3r> yes, i'm finally starting to understand that
[04:02] <z1pp3r> Are any of you guys aware of a channel/network where such questions as mine are appropriate then?
[04:02] <jdong> z1pp3r: are you familiar with the doom9 forums?
[04:02] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, I don't think that is our place.
[04:02] <z1pp3r> familiar is an overstatement, i've heard about it
[04:03] <z1pp3r> i'll check it out, thanks
[04:03] <Tm_T> mooh
[04:03] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, fair enough. I guess that also means my ban won't be lifted anytime soon
[04:03] <jdong> z1pp3r: they would be the better place for information on that kind of technology... it's not somethign that any of us here know much about or are interested in working with :)
[04:03] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, give us a minute, and we'll get back to you, please be patient :)
[04:03] <z1pp3r> okay
[04:03] <Tm_T> I rather not touch drm in first place =)
[04:04] <z1pp3r> but really, dont bother if it's much of a problem
[04:04] <z1pp3r> i guess the ban will expire soon enough
[04:04] <Seveas> bans don't expire on freenode
[04:04] <Pici> z1pp3r: Bans need to be lifted manually, they arent timed.
[04:04] <jdong> z1pp3r: keep your pants on, man, let the IRC council make a decision
[04:04] <z1pp3r> "soon enough" is relative =)
[04:28] <PriceChild> Pici, their real namse
[04:29] <Gary> they were rude
[04:29] <Pici> PriceChild: I know, it was just so sudden
[04:29] <LjL> PriceChild: you may want to notice they're in forums too
[04:29] <PriceChild> ahh :)
[04:29] <LjL> Pici: banned them yesterday from #ubuntu
[04:29] <PriceChild> lovely.
[04:30] <Pici> LjL: Ahh... okay.
[04:30] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, cocox said: ubotu: yeah alsa is selected, im gonna check the links gaven
[04:30] <Gary> and in -offtopic too
[04:30] <LjL> i know
[04:31] <LjL> i'd ban again, but i was thinking, after all they never said anything afaik
[04:33] <LjL> while on the other hand, as they never said anything at all, they probably don't need to lurk and do whatever they're doing - since whatever they're doing is unlikely to be something nice.
[04:34] <LjL> they're in so many unrelated big channels they must be harvesting nicks, pm spamming, or something else uncool
[04:43] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, Hey there, we'll lift the ban in 24 hours so please come back and poke one of us if we don't remember.
[04:44] <z1pp3r> Cheers
[04:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, Is there anything else we can help you with?
[04:48] <z1pp3r> Uhm no, i dont think so
[04:49] <PriceChild> Have a good day :)
[04:52] <z1pp3r> you too
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Seveas: what's the way to call up cve's?
[05:01] <Seveas> cve 2007-1
[05:01] <Seveas> oslt
[05:02] <Seveas> cve-2007-0123
[05:02] <Seveas> gah
[05:02] <Seveas> CVE-2007-4826
[05:03] <Seveas> that should do it
[05:03] <Seveas> is bugtracker off in here? :)
[05:03] <Pici> bug 1
[05:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[05:03] <Hobbsee> Seveas: it's not working in k-d either
[05:07] <Seveas> Hobbsee, cve website changed. screenscraping broke
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ahhh
[05:10] <PriceChild> jussi01, you mean voice when someone enters? It signifies they're an op
[05:10] <jussi01> PriceChild: ok, so who actually gets op in here?
[05:10] <Hobbsee> jussi01: it matters when we're +m, as only those who are +v can talk
[05:10] <Seveas> CVE-2007-4826
[05:10] <ubotu> bgpd in Quagga before 0.99.9, when debugging is enabled, allows remote BGP peers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a malformed (1) OPEN message or (2) COMMUNITY attribute that triggers a NULL pointer dereference. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4826)
[05:10] <Hobbsee> but we use to signify who is an op/staffer, vs who isnt.
[05:11] <PriceChild> jussi01, those on the ubuntu-irc launchpad team can ask for operator access from the channel contacts in #*buntu*... voice (+'s before names, or mode +v) is given to ops of the main ubuntu-irc channels.
[05:11] <Pici> Myrtti: sneaky ;)
[05:11] <Tm_T> indeedy
[05:14] <Myrtti> Pici: huh?
[05:14] <Myrtti> oh?
[05:15] <jussi01> PriceChild: and all thanks :)
[05:16] <Myrtti> wow.
[05:16] <Myrtti> thanks
[05:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: now youre +quality
[05:22] <PriceChild> jussi01, where are you an op?
[05:22] <jussi01> PriceChild: #ubuntustudio
[05:23] <Myrtti> Tm_T: in reality +++quality
[05:23] <Myrtti> ;-)
[05:23] <Tm_T> true!
[05:23] <Seveas> jussi01, that's not our realm
[05:23] <PriceChild> jussi01, ah, that's not under the control of the ubuntu-irc team, so doesn't really mean voice in here etc.
[05:23] <jussi01> PriceChild: oh. ok then
[05:23] <jussi01> PriceChild: should it be?
[05:23] <Seveas> though it could be if the ubuntustudio team wants us to take care of it :)
[05:24] <Myrtti> Tm_T: no, actually ++++quality
[05:24] <PriceChild> jussi01, "should" is a matter of opinion :)
[05:24] <LjL> self-inflicted imposition, how lovely
[05:24] <LjL> oh? i was thinking aloud
[05:25] <jussi01> Seveas: PriceChild: ok, I will check with the people who make these decisions.
[05:25] <PriceChild> jussi01, probably best it stays as it is imo
[05:25] <PriceChild> "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
[05:25] <jussi01> PriceChild: ok. fair enough. Feel free to reject that application then.
[05:27] <PriceChild> We normally take new ops up after observing them in the main channels, (listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Scope )
[05:29] <Hobbsee> would b e nice if you find more though
[05:30] <PriceChild> yeah you did suggest a couple from your side of the world a little ago iirc
[05:31] <Hobbsee> just people that i'd seen as good.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> still, go find more from my side of teh world.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> before we hit crisis point.
[05:37] <jussi01> PriceChild: OK. thanks for the link. I appreciate it :)
[05:40] <audi> hola busco novia
[05:40] <LjL> !es
[05:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:40] <audi> busco chica
[05:40] <jdong> wasn't the range banned yesterday?
[05:40] <Myrtti> remind me again about "my side of teh world?"
[05:40] <LjL> jdong: redirected to here
[05:40] <Pici> Not from this channel
[05:40] <jdong> LjL: ah
[05:40] <jdong> well he spelled hola right this time.
[05:40] <LjL> i just want them away from #ubuntu
[05:41] <LjL> not bugging y'all here is no in my agenda :)
[05:41] <LjL> s/no/not
[05:41] <Myrtti> chica?
[05:41] <Myrtti> isn't that women?
[05:42] <PriceChild> (Only meant to remove the one then)
[05:42] <LjL> yep Myrtti
[05:42] <Myrtti> lovely
[05:42] <LjL> i'm looking for a girl, he said
[05:42] <LjL> i suppose leaving the server is the best way
[05:42] <jdong> lol, amen.
[05:42] <jdong> speaking of that....
[05:43] <PriceChild> LjL's a pro :)
[05:44] <LjL> PriceChild: i have an svn version of konversation that finally has a search box for bans
[05:44] <PriceChild> hehe
[05:44] <PriceChild> /cs bans is always useful
[05:44] <LjL> but i can't use that
[05:44] <LjL> (and won't :P)
[05:45] <LjL> i wonder if a new version of konv will ever be released though
[05:51] <jussi01> LjL: one day...
[05:51] <Hobbsee> ah yes, the ban list serach will rock
[05:52] <LjL> soy chica
[05:52] <LjL> uff, too late
[05:52] <PriceChild> :)
[05:52] <jussi01> that sounds like a nice feature. LjL are there any other nice features worth mentioning?
[05:53] <LjL> jussi01: i've used it for quite a while now so i may not remember some things that aren't there in the release version... (also, perhaps in the *current* SVN there's even more, though it doesn't look very often updated)
[05:54] <LjL> jussi01: i can mention the nicklist feature where you can make nicks that talk the most show first on the list
[05:54] <jussi01> ok
[05:54] <LjL> except it's broken
[05:54] <jussi01> LjL: that sounds cool also...
[05:54] <LjL> but it'd find it useful if it weren't
[05:54] <PriceChild> That sounds really cool :)
[05:55] <LjL> there's also "differences" in the way scrolling works
[05:55] <Pici> I could see how that could cause a bit of overhead in channels like #ubuntu
[05:55] <LjL> i say "differences" because saying "improvements" would perhaps be pushing wishful thinking a bit too far
[05:55] <LjL> Pici: meh, we aren't running 286s
[05:55] <LjL> and it's hardly an NP algorithm :P
[05:56] <jussi01> !ping
[05:56] <ubotu> pong
[05:56] <jussi01> oh, it woke up...
[06:01] <PriceChild> bah :)
[06:01] <LjL> not quite too late but very very close to too late
[06:01] <PriceChild> hehe
[06:05] <PriceChild> wow loads of new icons
[06:05] <PriceChild> Hello raky, how can we help?
[06:06] <raky> should i be tested for the router bug?  i nstalled the most recent firmware, and changed to 8001
[06:06] <PriceChild> ok will do
[06:06] <PriceChild> raky, all looks good, welcome back to #ubuntu :)
[06:07] <raky> thanks!
[06:58] <Wurstfinger_3247> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7592513
[06:58] <Wurstfinger_3247> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7592513
[06:58] <tomaw> Wurstfinger_3247: please don't spam those urls on freenode
[06:59] <PriceChild> *don't click to see what it is*
[06:59] <PriceChild> will just give him more "hits" and points.
[07:00] <LjL> why can't i hit him?
[07:01] <PriceChild> :)
[07:47] <bbp> ola
[07:48] <LjL> bonjour
[07:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, PriceChild said: no appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for Windows programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:48] <LjL> under !WINE
[07:48] <LjL> and for !Windows
[07:49] <PriceChild> hehe was adding the "windows" bit, will add those !s
[07:49] <ubuntu-laptop> hmm ubotu seems to ha ve alot of lag here
[07:50] <LjL> !lag
[07:50] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[07:50] <PriceChild> lol :)
[07:50] <PriceChild> !-lag
[07:50] <ubotu> lag has no aliases - added by LjL on 2007-09-19 19:50:31
[07:50] <LjL> pff
[07:52] <PriceChild> fermat is back... *checks if he's evading*
[07:52] <jussi01> what?? [20:48]  --> UncleSam has joined this channel (n=USbot@ubuntu/bot/unclesam).
[07:53] <PriceChild> jussi01, vorian's playing
[07:53] <PriceChild> Its the us loco teams bot
[07:53] <jussi01> PriceChild: Ahh
[07:53] <jussi01> ok
[07:56] <Vorian> playing eh?
[07:56] <jdong> playing with what?
[07:57] <jussi01> jdong: stop talking dirty
[07:57] <jussi01> :P
[07:57] <jdong> jussi01: they see me rollin.... they hatin....
[07:58] <jussi01> lol
[08:06] <jussi01> !ubuntustudio
[08:06] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.tv Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[08:06] <jussi01> that should be .org for the official site
[08:08] <PriceChild> !-ubuntustudio
[08:08] <ubotu> ubuntustudio aliases: ubuntu-studio, ubuntu studio, studio - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 00:13:40
[08:08] <PriceChild> !no ubuntustudio is <reply> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.org Or visit #ubuntustudio
[08:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[08:08] <jussi01> thanks PriceChild
[08:09] <PriceChild> nps
[08:09] <jussi01> PriceChild: also, what is the proceedure to get a bot into #ubuntustudio ?
[08:09] <PriceChild> which bot?
[08:09] <jussi01> ubotu or similar/clone
[08:09] <PriceChild> .ubotu?
[08:09] <jussi01> oh, crap
[08:10] <jussi01> i hate that
[08:10] <PriceChild> I think the policy is just official channels, *ping seveas*
[08:10] <PriceChild> and locos...
[08:10] <Seveas> @join #ubuntustudio
[08:10] <jussi01> Seveas: thanks!!
[08:10] <PriceChild> there we go :)
[08:10] <Seveas> ubuntustudio is becoming on official derivative afaik
[08:10] <Seveas> so why not :)
[08:11] <PriceChild> yeah all packages are into gutsy now aren't they?
[08:11] <jussi01> Seveas: yes we are :) thank you
[08:11] <PriceChild> canonical's even doing the discs?
[08:11] <jussi01> yep
[08:11] <nalioth> i put ubot3 into 'unofficial' channels that ask
[08:11] <nalioth> PriceChild: fyi  ^^^
[08:12] <jussi01> You guys are efficient!! thank  a lot!!
[08:12] <PriceChild> thanks nalioth :)
[08:15] <jussi01> Seveas: ping. Just a quick question, we dont seem to have bug - ability. is this normal?
[08:16] <Seveas> yes
[08:16] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntustudio plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[08:16] <ubotu> OK
[08:16] <jussi01> thanks seveas
[08:18] <nalioth> PriceChild: ubot3 is in #easyubuntu and some other Ubuntu-related but not official channels (it's good to look things up)
[08:18] <PriceChild> cool :) i didn't think easyubuntu was still going?
[08:18] <PriceChild> I thought they declared themselves obsolete and left it at that with about feisty?
[08:23] <nalioth> PriceChild: we still support Dapper drake
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> I'd think easyubuntu would be obsoleted by ubuntu-restricted-extras, so would have little point feisty+
[08:23] <PriceChild> Ahhhh makes sense :)
[08:23] <nalioth> and we get a awful lot of people in there thinking they need it for feisty
[08:24] <mc44> at least automatix still exists \o/ :P
[08:24] <jdong> tonyyarusso: heh codecscripts will only be obsoleted when we find a solution for DVD CSS and 32-bit Windows codecs.
[08:24] <nalioth> ah, someone would mention that travesty and run my blood pressure up
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> jdong: boo
[08:25] <jdong> tonyyarusso: same attitude here...
[08:25] <mc44> jdong: solution is simple, topple governments, change law :)
[08:25] <jdong> lol
[08:25] <jdong> in my experience, shoving WMV's back at management and telling them to stick it up where it belongs does NOT work...
[08:25] <jussi01> hehe
[08:26] <PriceChild> wow someone registered an account on a forum i help out on as "freesitebuilder" and it isn't spam...
[08:26] <jdong> one in a million...
[08:26] <jussi01> lol
[08:26] <jdong> like that guy who advertised this Windows music store on UbuntuForums and was a legit user....
[08:27] <mc44> PriceChild: they are on irc often...
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> jdong: maybe not quite that wording, but I frequently send polite-ish e-mails to people explaining why their choice of file format sucks.  For instance, Microsoft Publisher files??? You can't even open those on Windows without paying $300 for the software.
[08:27] <mc44> PriceChild: -uk I think
[08:28] <jdong> tonyyarusso: publisher is an easier one to explain, but often times the video recording equipment or software they have will only output in a WMV or other highly restricted format...
[08:28] <jdong> and that's a harder one to convince thm to change
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> jdong: meh - it shall be done!
[08:28] <jdong> because as far as they are concerned, it "works for all their machines"
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> just be more persistent
[08:28] <jdong> I will continue to be
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Or, just start sending all of your communications in Ogg, ODF, etc, and see if they get the hint :)
[08:28] <jdong> but in the meantime I still have to grudgingly install w32codecs from medibuntu :)
[08:29] <jdong> lol, I really should :)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> lol, so I searched for Ubuntu on facebook to find possible candidates for my new LoCo, and messaged them all, and got one false positive who was just talking about the philosophy, but it looks like we share a lot of interests so she friended me anyway :P
[08:32] <jdong> haha :) CAPITAL U! CAPITAL U!
[08:32] <mc44> zomg facebook spammerz
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> mc44: yaz
[08:52] <Myrtti> @now sydney
[08:52] <ubotu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: September 20 2007, 04:52:56 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 1 hour 7 minutes
[09:19] <Burgundavia> Seveas: you around?
[09:24] <nalioth> we locked him in #ubuntu-bots with a fresh lithium battery in his pocket
[09:25] <Burgundavia> nalioth: do you have channel access to #ubuntu?
[09:25] <Burgundavia> ie: can you remove me as an op?
[09:28] <nalioth> Burgundavia: i can.
[09:28] <nalioth> why would you want to be removed?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> the pinging gets annoying at times?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> but thats still more of removing name from bot
[09:31] <Burgundavia> nalioth: lack of time
[09:32] <nalioth> Burgundavia: there are many listed that have little time, but if you like i can remove you from the access list
[09:32] <Burgundavia> I am worried, given I am going to be on IRC less time, if my account get compromised, etc.
[09:32] <Burgundavia> principle of least priv and all that
[10:44] <high-freq> hello can u test me plz
[10:44] <ompaul> yes
[10:44] <high-freq> thx
[10:45] <ompaul> I guess you pass
[10:45] <high-freq> lol ;)
[10:45] <high-freq> thx
[10:45] <high-freq> can i get back into ubuntu now?
[10:45] <ompaul> not until I (A) find you in the ban list and b remove the ban
[10:45] <ompaul> I will tell ya
[10:46] <ompaul> give me a mo
[10:46] <high-freq> oh ok ;)  hehe thx
[10:47] <ompaul> free to pass
[10:47] <high-freq> thx
[10:47] <mneptok> %btlogin
[10:47] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <ompaul> mneptok, take off the shades
[10:49] <mneptok> ompaul: you're not the boss of me.
[10:49] <ompaul> mneptok, this I know
[10:49] <mneptok> oh ... wait. it's Talk Like A Pirate Day. maybe you are ...
[10:49] <ompaul> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:49] <mneptok> yar!
[10:50] <ompaul> ooch
[10:50] <ompaul> thats gotta hurt
[10:50] <mneptok> i hate the itching, but i don't mind the swelling.
[10:51] <ompaul> stop it
[10:52] <ompaul> use tcp
[10:53] <PriceChild> ompaul, are you using chanserv.py?
[10:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, I am
[10:53] <PriceChild> /cs bans nick
[10:53] <ompaul> does PriceChild want chanserv.py or should I download a new one
[10:53] <ompaul>  /cs b nick
[10:54] <PriceChild> no need for bantracker, if there's just the foo!#ubuntu-read-topic ban then tis safe to /cs u nick
[10:54] <PriceChild> /cs b nick?
[10:54] <ompaul> PriceChild, I am more lost than someone in a desert at night without a compass and a lot of cloud
[10:55] <PriceChild> ompaul, in #ubuntu, type /cs bans nzk
[10:55] <ompaul> PriceChild, ahh sorry I see what you mean
[10:55] <ompaul> ahh ]
[10:56] <ompaul> I look up the servers bans and remove them :)
[10:56] <ompaul> ahh
[10:56] <ompaul> did not know that existed
[10:56] <PriceChild> means you don't have to check him on the bantracker :)
[10:56] <PriceChild> seen as /cs bans is more trustable
[10:56] <ompaul> yeap
[10:57] <ompaul> PriceChild, not the ban tracker
[10:57] <ompaul> I use the list bans
[10:57] <ompaul> was using
[10:57] <ompaul> I will not going forward
[10:57] <PriceChild> ahhh, sorry
[10:57] <PriceChild> read that wrong
[10:57] <PriceChild> still quicker though
[10:57] <ompaul> the server maintains a list
[10:57] <ompaul> it is much
[11:00] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/Burgundavia, //
[11:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[11:43] <PriceGuy> *wonders what that means*
[11:45] <mneptok> "to be or not to be"
[11:45] <PriceGuy> ahhhhh thankyou mneptok :)
[11:47] <mc44> PriceGuy?
[11:47] <mc44> You grew up?
[11:47] <PriceGuy> mc44, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555003
[11:49] <mc44> ZOMG CENSORSHIP
[11:49] <PriceGuy> mc44, only when I (PriceGuy) do it... its fine when Bapoumba does it.
[11:49] <Vorian> lol
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: just too busy with other things lately?
[11:52] <Tm_T> PriceGuy: I should censor your censors
[11:55] <mneptok> can we have an "Ubuntu Diploid Sporophytes" forum?
[11:56] <mneptok> i mean ... c'mon. the women get their own forum ...
[11:56] <Vorian> mneptok, you can request your 3rd party forum here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=231
[11:56] <PriceGuy> mneptok, bring it up at the next forum council meeting and i'm sure the admins would love to hear your proposals :)
[11:56] <Vorian> :P
[11:57] <gnomefreak> mneptok: they get thier own bedrooma nd locker room too
[11:57] <PriceGuy> we could maybe get a different theme for the section too?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> atleast my soon to be wife has own bedroom :(
[11:58] <mneptok> gnomefreak: smart woman. congratulations. ;)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> mneptok: thanks
[11:58] <gnomefreak> she has it for when we argue
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:59] <mneptok> my gal and i don't argue. we just have uncomfortable moments when i forget she's in charge.
[11:59] <Tm_T> awww
[12:00] <Tm_T> glad I'm too old for that stuff
[12:00] <mneptok> Tm_T: uhhh ... you're prolly a bit younger than me :)
[12:00] <Tm_T> mneptok: sure?
[12:00] <mneptok> see "prolly"
[12:00] <mc44> mneptok: you forget who wears the diapers in the relationship?
[12:01] <mneptok> mc44: the warm, moist feeling ensures i don't
[12:01] <mneptok> Tm_T: 1965 here. you?
[12:02] <Tm_T> mneptok: though I do have some holes in my memory about my youth, I do remember the grenade that did severe my left hip in southern Germany during WW I
[12:03] <mneptok> Tm_T: except WWI had no major engagements on German soil.
[12:03] <Tm_T> mneptok: I know that
[12:03] <Tm_T> mneptok: you think I was in major engagements and still would tell about it here?
[12:04] <mneptok> Tm_T: dude, #ubuntu *is* a major engagement :)
[12:04] <Tm_T> yes but not in WW I
[12:04] <Tm_T> #ubuntu came much later ;)
[12:37] <Tm_T> I'm very wealthy
[12:37] <Mez> I guessed, I know one person who is wealthy who has anything to do with ubuntu... lmao
[12:37] <Mez> Tm_T, ok, 2 people
[12:37] <Mez> Tm_T, wanna sponsor something ?
[12:37] <Tm_T> Mez: I have parents, home, and food enough to keep me alive, I'm very wealthy
[12:38] <Tm_T> oh, you mean money?
[12:38] <Tm_T> I got that too
[12:38] <mc44> I have a plane an multimillion business I sold in the internet boom
[12:38] <mc44> or is that sabdfl
[12:38] <mc44> I get confused
[12:38] <Pici> mc44: Oh, thats how you can be on irc all day
[12:38] <Mez> Tm_T, :P lol... well, if you wanna sponsor something :P
[12:38] <jdong> mc44: you just stole my joke
[12:38] <Tm_T> Mez: what it is?
[12:39] <Mez> Tm_T, Radio Amarok
[12:39] <jdong> mc44: and for the record I was on the word "space".....
[12:39] <Tm_T> Mez: you might get same amount that does red cross
[12:39] <jdong> :)
[12:39] <Mez> Tm_T, 0$ p/m ?
[12:39] <Pici> I donated money to the red cross.
[12:40] <Tm_T> more like 10  per month
[12:40] <Tm_T> Pici: I do every month
[12:40] <Pici> Yay!
[12:40] <Mez> Tm_T, If/when we setup a paypal account, I'll let you know the details ;)
[12:40] <mc44> I donated blood
[12:40] <mc44> they aint having my money
[12:40] <Pici> But they can take your soul?
[12:40] <Tm_T> mc44: nobody is having my blood
[12:41] <mc44> Pici: I sold that ages ago for some magic beans
[12:41] <Tm_T> and I'm not taking anybodys blood
[12:41] <Tm_T> my blood my body, thank you
[12:41] <jdong> I have this thing for needles...
[12:41] <jdong> oddly.
[12:41] <Pici> You could sell your kidneys
[12:41] <mc44> jdong: just taking things out, not in, I hope :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> even if I will die without extra blood, I wont take it
[12:41] <jdong> mc44: certainly :)
[12:42] <jdong> speaking of selling yourself for money...
[12:42] <Tm_T> haha
[12:42] <jdong> I just saw this poster on campus for egg bank donations....
[12:42] <jdong> and SHEESH YOU LADIES ARE LUCKY
[12:42] <Tm_T> I have refused to do paid job because of volunteer job =)
[12:42] <Pici> jdong: They have whole billboards for that here
[12:43] <jdong> Pici: the amount of money you get is outrageous :)
[12:43] <jdong> do it twice and you've paid through MIT....
[12:43] <jdong> but for us males... nooo, it's worthless in comparison
[12:43] <mc44> slight difference though
[12:43] <Pici> supply vs demand
[12:43] <Tm_T> jdong: is it our fault you're worthless =)
[12:44] <jdong> lol
[12:44] <mc44> jdong: donating for men is much more fun
[12:44] <jdong> mc44: LMFAO
[12:44] <mc44> also eggs are finite if I remember sex ed
[12:45] <Tm_T> oh boy
[12:45] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-ops on topic as always
[12:46] <Mez> hmmless...
[12:46] <jdong> mc44: that's somewhat correct
[12:46] <jdong> mc44: also, egg donation could cause some pretty unfortunate complications for females
[12:46] <Tm_T> you men are weird
[12:46] <Tm_T> or, rather all hu-mans
[12:47] <mneptok> Tm_T: but great on a cracker.
[12:47] <Tm_T> mneptok: perhaps
[12:48] <mc44> mneptok: like caviar?
[12:49] <mneptok> mc44: LIKE A STURGEON! HARVESTED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!
[12:49] <mc44> :D
[12:51] <Tm_T> but oh oh wheeee!
[12:51] <Tm_T> I will get my Ubuntu backpack this week!
[12:51] <Tm_T> ...I hope
[12:52] <Seeker`> Ubuntu backpack?
[12:54] <Tm_T> yes
[12:55] <Tm_T> https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=47
[12:55] <stdin> it's a backpack that's brown :p
[12:55] <Pici> That says black/red
[12:55] <stdin> aww, it's actually not brown
[12:55] <Pici> And they call it a rucksack
[12:55] <Tm_T> whatever =)
[12:55] <Tm_T> "NOT SUITABLE FOR LAPTOPS." =) =)
[12:56] <Tm_T> how convenient
[12:56] <mc44> hmm, the chocolate hoody is quite cute
[12:56] <Tm_T> mc44: thats what I will get next
[12:57] <Pici> Thats more of a gibbon color than chocolate
[12:57] <mc44> I'd get if it wasn't so expensive
[12:59] <Tm_T> I would love to get thick grey Ubuntu businees-style shirt
[01:00] <Tm_T> that would go well with my jacket
[01:02] <Tm_T> aaah!
[01:02] <Tm_T> thats it!
[01:10] <Tm_T> muhahaha
[01:10] <Tm_T> I know now exactly what my jacket is missing
[01:11] <Pici> a backpack?
[01:11] <Tm_T> no
[01:11] <Tm_T> ubuntu logos in shoulders
[01:12] <PriceChild> rucksack!
[01:12] <Pici> no real people call them rucksacks


[05:02] <wxl> why did the bug import not work here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxqt/+bug/1795539
[09:08] <cjwatson> wxl: 2018-11-08 13:07:55 INFO    Failure updating bug u'1560' on https://api.github.com/repos/lxqt/lxqt (local bugs: 1795539). (OOPS-11ce1308dafd2bdf4b9fd002feb173e5)
[09:08] <cjwatson> wxl: can you file a bug and quote that log entry?
[09:09] <cjwatson> we'll need to do some digging as the OOPS is basically just a KeyError so not super-obvious
[10:22] <acheronuk> why is LP git so painfully slow?
[10:25] <acheronuk> quit literally just a few KiB/s at best
[10:31] <cjwatson> we need to do some scaling work on it relatively urgently
[10:33] <acheronuk> cjwatson: thanks. as long as its known and in hand :)
[10:33] <acheronuk> just a tad frustrating right now
[16:24] <tomreyn> hi, these CVE pages keep timing out for me - could someone look into this? https://launchpad.net/bugs/cve/CVE-2017-5753
[16:25] <tomreyn> OOPS ID is 9e1e4bb92361e2179d2ce5245549b74d
[16:26] <tomreyn> that's both when not logged in and when logged in. it's interesting that it works for ubot.


[03:01] <bruce_> hi
[03:02] <bruce_> hello....  I have a question about edubuntu
[03:20] <HedgeMage> so ask it :)
[03:21] <HedgeMage> You don't need permission -- that's what we're here for
[03:23] <bruce_> oh yes...
[03:23] <bruce_> is there a "package" i can install on top of regular ubuntu 9.10 to install ALL the edubuntu apps?
[03:23] <bruce_> brb
[03:24] <HedgeMage> I think it's called edubuntu-desktop or something like that.
[03:24] <bruce_> sorry
[03:24] <bruce_> i must reboot
[03:24] <bruce_> brb
[07:40] <alkisg> Good morning
[12:46] <mhall119> morning
[13:48] <mgariepy> morning everyone
[14:31] <mhall119> highvoltage: are you around this morning
[14:31] <mhall119> ?
[14:40] <highvoltage> mhall119: yes, hi!
[14:51] <sbalneav> Morning all
[22:01]  * bencrisford is back
[22:01] <bencrisford> highvoltage: hey
[22:02] <bencrisford> i might carry on working on my bzr branch
[22:02] <bencrisford> i still have the terminal window open from before i went to germany :P
[22:11] <highvoltage> bencrisford: hehe, cool :)
[22:13] <mhall119> highvoltage: did you talk to jdstrand about those packages?
[22:13] <mhall119> or just resubmit them to him?
[22:18] <highvoltage> mhall119: just uploaded, he can't miss them :)
[22:36]  * bencrisford thinks emails can wait until he has had a good nights sleep in a familiar time zone