[10:29] <rochabk> is ubuntu 12.10 beta 1 very unstable?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> rochabk  yes, support in #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <digidot> ferni: Right. And as far as I know mutter gets much more attention these days
[10:30] <rochabk> oes
[10:30] <rochabk> okes
[10:30] <md_5> einonm what do you mean 'right one'  and I thought bitcoin was a way to share money with people, or is that a different bitcoin
[10:31] <LjL> md_5, einonm: this is all not very on-topic for here
[10:31] <einonm> md_5: yes, but you can also create money using computer processing power - this is known as 'mining'
[10:32] <einonm> md_5:  and like real mining, the more that is done, the harder the remaining bitcoins are to find (and there is a limited amount)
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> einonm  please type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <einonm> LjL: MonkeyDust: understood.
[10:33] <Xeodus> so - any idea how I could start tracking this down?
[10:33] <ShapeShifter499> swap partition or file?  what is faster?
 I run ubuntu server and I'm happy with it because thai hookers are too expensive.
[10:34] <companion> I lol'd
[10:34] <LjL> ...
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> companion  wrong channel, not here
[10:34] <companion> MonkeyDust, its still on toppic
[10:34] <companion> its about ubuntu :)
[10:35] <LjL> companion: not really, it's not. this is Ubuntu *technical support*
[10:35] <companion> LjL, shoulnt it be called #Ubuntu-Suppport or some thing like that?
[10:36] <LjL> companion: that's what topics are for.
[10:36] <companion> LjL, maybe I am too old fashioned with IRC -.-
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> I'm debating having a swap file or partition or both even and weather or not to put it on a sd card that would be connected to the built-in reader slot on my laptop or have it continue to sit on the same drive my system is on
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> what do you guys think?
[10:39] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: a swap partition on an SD card...?
[10:40] <md_5> can be done
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> LjL, sure why not?
[10:40] <LjL> sure, it's also a terrible idea
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> why?
[10:40] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: it's slow *and* it will likely break the card.
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> slow?
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> I thought since its "flash" storage it would be a bit faster than my hdd
[10:41] <md_5> nope
[10:41] <md_5> Stick to hDD
[10:41] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: hardly. it's not an SSD. anyway, the bigger point is flash memory has limited write cycles, and putting swap on it will run out of them fast.
[10:41] <ShapeShifter499> too bad, I have a 16 gig card just doing nothing
[10:42] <ShapeShifter499> LjL, md_5 does the fact its a SDHC make it any faster?
[10:43] <md_5> its a bad idea, full stop
[10:43] <md_5> On my system at least swap isnt even used
[10:43] <ShapeShifter499> ok geez
[10:43] <md_5> Total    Used    Free
[10:43] <md_5> Swap:      8097788          0    8097788
[10:43] <ShapeShifter499> ok well swap partition or file?
[10:43] <md_5> partition
[10:44] <md_5> type 'free' into a terminal and see ohow much you are using right now
[10:44] <LjL> ShapeShifter499: no (although SDHC cards will probably tend to be faster as they're newer)
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, why?
[10:44] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, I mean why partition over file?
[10:45] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, and system monitor says I'm using just over 400 mb of my 2.7 swap
[10:45] <md_5> Because if its a file then you are just going over your file system and whatever errors that may  have on read/write
[10:45] <hc_> hello
[10:45]  * hc_ wonders into the room
[10:45] <hc_> do i need a registered nick to talk?
[10:46] <LjL> hc_: not here, not usually
[10:46] <hc_> do i need a registered nick to talk?
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, ok so that would mean that the partition could go but that might not effect my main system partition
[10:46] <hc_> opps sorry for repeating myself
[10:46] <ShapeShifter499> right?
[10:46] <hc_> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i cant get my video card working :(
[10:46] <hc_> thanks ljl
[10:46] <md_5>  yeah
[10:48]  * hc_ sits quietly while he waits for a response
[10:48]  * hc_ sighs
[10:49] <hc_> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 but i cant get my video card working :( - how may i get the video card working please?
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, my system just random shut-down
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> just rebooted now
[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, does ubuntu shut-down if the system is to hot?
[10:51] <md_5> not sure
[10:51] <ShapeShifter499> well its cooler now it did
[10:51]  * hc_ sits quietly...
[10:52]  * hc_ looks around the room
[10:53] <Guest1> hey
[10:53] <hc_> hello guest
[10:53] <md_5> .guest
[10:53] <md_5> hmm nope
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> !details | hc_
[10:54] <hc_> I have a problem with my video care i am running ubuntu 12.04 when i try to enable my second monitor i get laptop displayed but i expect to be able to extend my desktop
[10:54] <hc_> ....card even not care
[10:55] <md_5> Go to settings -> displays and make sure mirror is unchecked @ hc)
[10:55] <md_5> hc_
[10:55] <hc_> its only displaying laptop - its not allowing me to extend to my second monitor
[10:56] <emil_> hc_ what videocard do you have?
[10:56] <hc_> nvidia gtx 480
[10:56] <hc_> i think
[10:56] <emil_> hc_ Have you installed nvidia controlpanel?
[10:57] <hc_> emil_,  i am not sure - i installed ubuntu 12.04 and then did software updater
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> md_5, I'll try memtest
[10:59] <strk> i can't find a GUI for setting system fonts, what package am I missing ?
[11:00] <emil_> hc_ check this out: http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[11:00] <hc_> thank you
[11:01] <hahaha> Why can't I find CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM in jaunty(9)?
[11:02] <Night-hacks> any good tools for rotating Unity on 64 bit machine ?
[11:04] <hc_> i have to reboot i will be back - thank you again emil
[11:05] <Night-hacks> most tools are 32 bit only
[11:10] <hc_> emil_,  thank you - that worked
[11:10] <emil_> hc_: good!!
[11:11] <hc_> now i need to get a .run file installed =D
[11:11] <emil_> hc_ g2g cya
[11:11] <hc_> thank you again cya
[11:15] <hc_> how do i change to my downloads folder in terminal? i know cd  - i just dont know the path
[11:16] <hc_> nevermind - found it
[11:18] <Squarepy> congratulations hc_
[11:20] <jamster> hello I am using ddrescue to rescue my broken drive. I am not sure what I should do. I used the examples in ddrescue tutorial in the ddrescue manual. not sure if I should copy both of the ext3 file systems individually or should I just do them as a whole.... should I make a partition for it or do an  iso or maybe both iso for the backup and the hard drive partition one to be the one I try and fix...
[11:20] <jamster> using parted magic to rescue my ubuntu system
[11:20] <pgdac12> How to password protect my single user mode if i do init=/bin/bash at kernel line at grub screen.Don't want to use grub password only want to block single usermode if possible .Thanks !
[11:22] <taowa> What is the channel for loco
[11:22] <PeterGriffin> how to find out if mysql server is started or stopped and how should I stop it?
[11:22] <hc_> thanks Squarepy
[11:23] <pgdac12> Any One Please !
[11:24] <jamster> going to pastebin my issue
[11:25] <jamster> be back
[11:25] <hc_> PeterGriffin, in terminal - type "service -- status-all"
[11:25] <hc_> but without the rabbit ears
[11:25] <hc_> i dont know sorry pgdac
[11:25] <PeterGriffin> with sudo?
[11:25] <hc_> i did it without sudo
[11:25] <hc_> you could try it with sudo - it wont hurt
[11:26] <yeats> !loco | taowa
[11:27] <nhanbvn483> I can't make Wine run at widescreen resolution, can anyone help me?
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> I got some +, - and ?-s.
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> before thye service name
[11:27] <faLUCE> hi. is it possible to install (x/k/l)ubuntu on zelig pad 700 ?
[11:27] <PeterGriffin> before mysql is [ ? ]. What dows it mean
[11:28] <hc_> i am not 100% sure what the +, - or ? is - i think its "on" "off" "unknown"
[11:28] <jamster> loco ubuntu = crazy ubuntu?
[11:28] <hc_> there is another command i just found - type in terminal "sudo ps -A"
[11:29] <pgdac12> !init 1
[11:31] <nhanbvn483> can anyone help me with a Wine resolution issue?
[11:32] <hc_> im sorry PeterGriffin  i do not know what it means
[11:34] <PeterGriffin> hc_: I'll check what it means in google. Thank you.
[11:34] <bazhang> nhandler, check the appdb and /join #winehq
[11:34] <bazhang> whoops nhandler sorry
[11:38] <Guest42020> how to install flashplayer in firefox without ubuntu software center?
[11:39] <bazhang> Guest42020, either command line, or synaptic package manager
[11:42] <Leidenfrost> Hello guys. Is there a way to install KDE without semantic desktop?
[11:44] <PeterGriffin> Guest42020: Try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-install-flash-player-for-firefox/
[11:44] <Leidenfrost> I'm planning to switch from gentoo. And everything is fine, except for my KDE. It is very tweaked to weight far less than a default installation. I want to know if I can use KDE without utilities like nepomuk that fill my memory.
[11:45] <plonsk> hallo
[11:45] <plonsk> how are you dowing
[11:46] <plonsk> fack jour pet
[11:46] <plonsk> kom dan vegget
[11:46] <plonsk> klappen
[11:46] <plonsk> hooomo
[11:46] <plonsk> floodboot wat een gay naam
[11:47] <bkc_> !nl | plonsk
[11:47] <tomreyn> is there a utility/software which ensures you never have more than the latest one or two linux images installed?
[11:48] <bkc_> tomreyn: rm && grub-update ?
[11:48] <tomreyn> bkc_: that's something you can do once, and a basis for a script, but not a script in itself
[11:48] <MikeWorth> my brother has asked me to help him upgrade from lucit to precise; it fails due to a being unable to resolve dependanies. I think this is because he had a dropbox repository installed, i tried removing this to no avail. what do i try now?
[11:49] <yeats> Leidenfrost: KDE is packaged in several different ways - kubuntu-desktop is the full-blown Ubuntu implementation, but there are other options: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/meta-kde
[11:49] <yeats> Leidenfrost: I don't know the specific answer to your question though
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:50] <tomreyn> this laptop is not mine, i have it here for two hours and am supposed to 'tune it' a little. and it's got 10 kernel images installed, and dkms runs for every single image whenever you install/remove a kernel package
[11:50] <Nordom> I am thinking clean install ubuntu over my win7 is this wise? Or is better to duel boot?
[11:50] <Leidenfrost> yeats: That was a pretty good answer.
[11:50] <yeats> Leidenfrost: :-D
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Nordom  dual boot, in case you don't like ubuntu or need win7
[11:51] <bkc_> tomreyn: tomreyn "ls /boot | grep linuz | sort -r" and then take the 2 first, and delete the rest :)
[11:51] <bkc_> skip the 2 first *
[11:51] <bkc_> and then grub-update
[11:51] <ramp> i mercenari 2
[11:51] <tomreyn> bkc_: i'm talking about packages, though, not just the images
[11:51] <Nordom> I heard that clean install makes ubuntu faster? should I make a new partion for it or could I install it to same partion as windows? or should I use that install unbuntu from windows thingy?
[11:52] <bkc_> afaik they aren't removed on update, so they are no packages for them :/
[11:52] <subz3r0> Nordom, do not use "wubi"
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Nordom  clean install on its own partition
[11:52] <tomreyn> bkc_: i can write that script, but looking for an existing one , if any. this would seem like a common need.
[11:52] <bkc_> tomreyn: I always used to remove them manually...
[11:52] <Nordom> thats what I have heard subz3r0, not to use wubi
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  do not even *mention* wubi ;)
[11:52] <subz3r0> Wubi will be obsolete asap
[11:52] <pgdac12> How to password protect my single user mode if i do init=/bin/bash at kernel line at grub screen.Don't want to use grub password only want to block single usermode if possible .Thanks !
[11:52] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust, you got me ;)
[11:52] <Nordom> how much is a good size for a ubuntu partion?
[11:53] <yeats> Nordom: most of what you're asking is about preference - if you want to still use Windows, then dual boot is what you probably want
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Nordom
[11:53] <pgdac12> Nordom:  Depends upon your use ,  i am using almost 100g
[11:53] <Leidenfrost> asd > Leidenfrost
[11:53] <Leidenfrost> I thought there was something like streaming operators in irc lolo
[11:54] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: ubottu-specific...
[11:54] <subz3r0> Nordom, depends on your needs. I would make a partition for everything i need. Like 400mb for /boot, 10 gigs for /, RAM = /swap(if you want to suspend), 10+gigs for /home
[11:54] <yeats> Leidenfrost: prefix a ! to your command (or better yet /msg ubottu with your query)
[11:55] <bkc_> !next
[11:55] <bkc_> -.-
[11:55] <bkc_> !learn
[11:55] <bkc_> -.-
[11:55] <Leidenfrost> !learn > Leidenfrost
[11:55] <Nordom> well I got 1tera for my OS needs, and to behonest I really dont want to partion... feel like taking all my saved game data and wipe everything... just to try something new... not wise I know, but it looks like must games that I thought could ONLY run in windows work on linux with a little bit support required.... but before I do anything rash how fast does wine get updated? Like if steam updated
[11:55] <Nordom> some game how long is the delay usually if its not normally supported by linux?
[11:55] <pgdac12> No ONe !
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> bkc_  type /msg ubottu !something and continue in ubottu 's screen
[11:56] <bkc_> MonkeyDust: thank you ^^
[11:56] <bkc_> Nordom: I'd suggest VirtualBox then :)
[11:57] <adib> hey, im running ubuntu 12.04 on an macbook 8.1 mid 2011, it runs fine but when i connect an additional screen the resulution of the screen is ffed up, anyone knows which drivers i need to get?
[11:57] <Nordom> bkc_ what is that?
[11:57] <bkc_> VirtualMachine
[11:57] <LorSamPau_w> !VirtualBox
[11:57] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: I guess you recommend to install ubuntu in a small vm.
[11:57] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: indeed, or a huge one :)
[11:57] <subz3r0> bkc_, sorry to tell, but thats crap.... what's about 3d in a virtualbox? mhh?
[11:58] <subz3r0> indeed, it does not work properly
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> I was thinking the same.
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> If it even works...
[11:58] <subz3r0> it sounds like he wants a fast system. virtualizazion != fast
[11:58] <subz3r0> -z+t
[11:58] <Leidenfrost> However, virtualization is very fast with modern machines.
[11:59] <Leidenfrost> 3D is the only thing that falls off.
[11:59] <LorSamPau_w> yeap
[11:59] <subz3r0> no cuda, no 3d, no games no nothing
[11:59] <subz3r0> thats the deal of virtualization
[11:59] <Leidenfrost> Except that you are smart enough to get Xen running
[11:59] <adib> im running ubuntu 12.04 on an macbook 8.1 mid 2011, it runs fine but when i connect an additional screen the resulution of the screen is ffed up, anyone knows which drivers i need to get?
[12:00] <bkc_> like wubi *should* work -.-
[12:00] <Leidenfrost> And a cool motherboard that supports IOMMU. Then you can share the video card on the guest system :)
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: does exist :)
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: I have full access to my gfx-card and all it's capabilities from my VMs :)
[12:00] <bkc_> and if you wanna do a "real" installation, you can just dd the image to a partition and it "Just Works(TM)" ^^
[12:00] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: define "all it's capabilities".
[12:00] <bkc_> subz3r0: I have cuda, and D3D in windows-guest :/
[12:00] <subz3r0> bkc_, so how tell us how that works? Like running CUDA in a vm. go for it
[12:00] <bkc_> VirtualGL and Wine's D3D-wrapper...
[12:01] <bkc_> Havn't tried cuda thou... not really interested in vendor-specific garbage...
[12:01] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: And what games?
[12:02] <bkc_> but! opencl works as intended... and it's an nvidia-card, so it has to emulate opencl ontop of cuda... hence cuda is working nicely
[12:02] <subz3r0> its a fact, that 3d DOES NOT work PROPERLY in a vm. even with VMWARE it doesnt. and with virtual box ofc NOT
[12:02] <bkc_> !virtualg
[12:02] <bkc_> !virtualgl
[12:02] <solofight> People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] all over the place
[12:02] <solofight> i thought it might be the firewall - so tried pinging the ip which works and tried wget the url which downloads the index.html
[12:03] <solofight> now i dont know what to do - need inputs - please pitch in
[12:03] <subz3r0> anyway... the advice does not fit. if any1 wants to get a nice and working system for day to day, its not recommend to give the advice to virtualize
[12:03] <subz3r0> thats my opinion
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> howto autoremove torrents after they finished in transmission?
[12:04] <Leidenfrost> And weird enough, there's a psychological overhead in virtualizing. If you have to start vbox and start the vm, you end just using the host system.
[12:04] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, ratio 0 uploading
[12:04] <subz3r0> Leidenfrost, another good point as u said...
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks:lemme try that tnx
[12:04] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: not really... snatshots...
[12:05] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: It doesn't save you from loading the host OS and the snapshot itslef
[12:05] <subz3r0> bkc_, youre more confusing than helpin
[12:05] <Leidenfrost> solofight: The fastest guess is to try a mirror.
[12:05] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: host-os loading is there anyways... and a snapshot loads in a few seconds on a good enough computer to do anything 3d-related anyways...
[12:06] <bkc_> subz3r0: ofc
[12:06] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: Loading a guest ubuntu for 3D isn't worth.
[12:06] <subz3r0> bkc_, so why give this advice to a person who wants to have a proper working system?
[12:07] <Leidenfrost> And a guest windows... err
[12:08] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: I have to use windows daily for work and stuff that don't work in wine...
[12:08] <subz3r0> i think the advice should fit to the persons needs. so your advice is just overrun
[12:08] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how to ?
[12:09] <subz3r0> anyway.. back to topic :)
[12:09] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: and I decided to virtualize it because I don't want to dualboot... -.-
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: tnx
[12:09] <gmagno> hello, you guys have any idea why beep or tput bel do not yield any sound?
[12:09] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I'm sleepy, so I'm not in the mood to give verbose explanations. You just have to replace the urls in sources.list with working ones.
[12:09] <gmagno> I'm on a Xubuntu 12.04 machine
[12:10] <adib> hmm
[12:10] <Leidenfrost> bkc_: 1) Wine on ubuntu virtualized from windows? 2) I've tried VMs since a long time ago. And 3D didn't work. Never.
[12:10] <subz3r0> Leidenfrost, keep your energy ;)
[12:11] <Leidenfrost> subz3r0: lol
[12:12] <gmagno> adib, for some reason none of the terminal emulators I use reproduce any kind of beep sound. FOr instance calling "beep" or "tput bel" should force the speaker to make a sound, but that is not working
[12:12] <Leidenfrost> gmagno: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[12:13] <bkc_> Leidenfrost: ArchLinux -> VM[Windows]/Wine
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> gmagno  try this play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[12:13] <bkc_> actually
[12:13] <bkc_> and I only use the D3D-part of wine in the virtualized Windows...
[12:13] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how do i know its working or not ? if you say by checking them in the browser or wget - even the present URL which are failing in upgrade process are working when i put in browser or wget it downloads a file called index.html
[12:14] <bkc_> !repository
[12:14] <bkc_> solofight: ^
[12:14] <Leidenfrost> solofight: An ubuntu repository is composed by an entire directory structure and many files. My guess is to test aptitude update or apt-get update to see is they do work.
[12:14] <gmagno> Leidenfrost, before isntalling that kernel module I did what MonkeyDust said, and that does what it should,I can hear all the sounds in that directory
[12:15] <gmagno> should I install pcspkr now?=
[12:15] <Leidenfrost> no need to install it. Is a kernel module and comes with linux-image
[12:15] <bkc_> gmagno: pcspkr is for the thing in your computer that goes *bliip*
[12:15] <gmagno> bkc_, bliip? What does that mean?
[12:16] <bkc_> irritating noise*
[12:16] <gmagno> hey, just installed that kernel module, beep is working now :)
[12:16] <Leidenfrost> :)
[12:16] <gmagno> bkc_, that irritating noise is the speaker sound, I love that sound heheh
[12:16] <bkc_> gmagno: only good for 1 thing, irc-notification ^^
[12:16] <solofight> Leidenfrost: apt-get update gets completed without any errors
[12:16] <gmagno> I still remember when the games I played made use of the speaker only
[12:17] <gmagno> bkc_, that's exacly why I need it
[12:17] <Leidenfrost> solofight: Then can I guess your issue is solved?
[12:17] <bkc_> ooh :3
[12:17] <gmagno> is there any reason for that module being blacklisted?
[12:17] <solofight> Leidenfrost: noo - apt-get update has been working from the beginning itself - its the upgrade is the one which fails
[12:17] <adib> anyone knows how to fix the resolution of an external monitor on ubuntu 12.04 running on an 8.1 macbook?
[12:17] <solofight> with that error
[12:18] <bkc_> gmagno: people find it annoying?
[12:18] <Leidenfrost> solofight: have you tried apt-get upgrade?
[12:18] <Leidenfrost> solofight: with the new mirror
[12:18] <gmagno> bkc_, :D
[12:18] <bkc_> !xrandr | adib
[12:18] <bkc_> dual screen o.O
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> adib  arandr is a gui for xrandr
[12:18] <lipska> Ubuntu Linux 12.04 64 bit
[12:18] <solofight> Leidenfrost: yes - infact the error i have posted is from apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <lipska> I'm working on some x86_32 assembler and I need the 32 bit version of libc.so
[12:19] <Leidenfrost> solofight: please post an entire pastebin about the error
[12:19] <lipska> I can run the assembler with the 32 bit switch ok
[12:19] <lipska> as --32 -g foo.asm -o foo.o
[12:20] <lipska> but when I try to link with the only available libc.so I can find at
[12:20] <lipska> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so obviously the linker barfs
[12:20] <gmagno> hmm, interesting, 'tput bel' still does no sound at all, which means centerim is also not gonna notify me of incoming new messages, which means I still have a problem... Any idea why 'tput bel' does not work? Btw, 'tput flash' does what it should do.
[12:20] <lipska> Searching the web I found that I could install the 32 bit libs
[12:20] <lipska> by doing apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:20] <lipska> However there is still no libc.so or anything beginning with that string anywhere on my system.
[12:21] <lipska> I have to admit that I am stumped.
[12:21] <lipska> any ideas ?
[12:21] <me13> who wants to help me
[12:22] <compdoc> me! me!
[12:22] <Harlin> hmm is there a music player that can play internet radio stations and records streams without crashing ?  (have tried guayadeque and rhytmbox and not happy)
[12:22] <gmagno> :D lol
[12:22] <faLUCE>  hi. Is it possible to install (k/l/x)ubuntu on a zelig pad 700 ?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Harlin  guayadeque can, i did
[12:22] <faLUCE> MonkeyDust: ?
[12:22] <me13> convert youtube flash to flac
[12:22] <Harlin> guayadeque's recordings sound like a very slow lp with reverberation and crashes frequently.
[12:23] <Harlin> this is on 12.04
[12:23] <adib> hmm
[12:23] <adib> both my screens seem to turn black if i change their position in either system or using arandr
[12:26] <Leidenfrost> adib: try using your vendor's utility
[12:26] <adib> as in trough system settings? Leidenfrost
[12:27] <Leidenfrost> adib: dunno if they integrate into system settings. I usually call it like any other application. I'm talking about nvidia-settings and catalyst control center
[12:27] <Harlin> guayadeque's recordings sound like a very slow lp with reverberation and crashes frequently.
[12:27] <Harlin> hmm is there a music player that can play internet radio stations and records streams without crashing ?  (have tried guayadeque and rhytmbox and not happy)
[12:27] <adib> im on an macbook
[12:28] <mote> Hi. Question: i just put a new WiFi card in my desktop. AR9227, should be covered by the ath9k driver. lspci see's it. but networkmanager don't? what to do?
[12:28] <Leidenfrost> adib: You should have an nvidia then. Try using nvidia-settings.
[12:29] <adib> nope
[12:29] <MrBushido> is there any way to stop fullscreen flash video (e.g. youtube) returning to website mode if the window loses focus? I often watch videos on my secondary monitor while doing other stuff on my primary screen, but at the moment that results in it cancelling the fullscreen
[12:30] <adib> i think it is intell
[12:30] <krababbel> MrBushido: I'd say that is not really possible, but you could pop out the youtube video to a full screen window
[12:31] <MrBushido> meh, windows does it :'<
[12:31] <sebas_> Where in ccsm can I find the option: mouse to left corner of screen and get a grid of all progs that are running?
[12:31] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/RXeUbHar
[12:32] <solofight> and continues
[12:32] <solofight> i put Ctrl+c
[12:32] <BluesKaj> MrBushido, what about virtual desktops
[12:33] <mote> Hi. Question: i just put a new WiFi card (AR9227) in my desktop, should be covered by the ath9k driver. lspci see's it. but networkmanager don't? what to do?
[12:34] <saby> hello
[12:34] <MrBushido> that sounds like a workaround rather than a solution. any idea what will cause it? i'd rather send a feature request than try and fix it myself ^_^
[12:34] <MrBushido> i'm guessing its either adobe or xfce's issue
[12:34] <C10H8N4O2> anyone install jira on ubuntu server successfully?
[12:37] <bbk> http://masafportal.com/post/view-5896
[12:39] <phil_> bonjour
[12:39] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That's purely a network error.
[12:39] <bbk> http://masafportal.com/post/view-5896
[12:42] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That could be your firewall or the server. If you are sure the server works fine, then you'll have to deal with your firewall
[12:42] <solofight> Leidenfrost: Lets take the first error - Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:43] <solofight> here if i open the url  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu it should have a directory maverick-updates inside which there should be a directory called main correct
[12:44] <Leidenfrost> solofight: We're talking about servers, aren't int?
[12:44] <solofight> and then inside that it should have amd64 ....etc
[12:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: yes
[12:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: how do i verify that its the problem with firewall ?
[12:44] <JonDollt> .
[12:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: i need to prove it to the IT team - if i show this message its not enough for him
[12:45] <solofight> he isa saying i am in the elevated internet group
[12:46] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I guess they aren't helpful enough to say "Hey can you lend me a hand? I think this is a network error."
[12:47] <randomDude> I'm trying to share the ethernet connection on my laptop to my phone via the laptops wifi... 1) turn on wifi [done] 2) click 'use as hotspot' [done] 3) realise i don't know the wifi password [fail] 4) attempt to click options button.... [can't]... << options button is greyed out
[12:47] <Leidenfrost> solofight: There's a risky thing you can do. Replace everything "maverick" with "natty", do apt-get update and try apt-getting something big (So you can cancel before it starts installing anything)
[12:49] <Leidenfrost> solofight: The point in here is to see if the distro version is causing problems, but don't installing anything just to be safe.
[12:49] <jayeshahir> can anyone know how to install bt5 menu in ubuntu 12.04??
[12:50] <solofight> Leidenfrost: nice - try it now
[12:50] <jayeshahir> can anyone know how to install bt5 menu in ubuntu 12.04??
[12:51] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I did way nastier things in my desk. Like upgrading from debian potato to squeeze, and downgrading a debian wheezy to squeeze.
[12:52] <KakamiOkatsu> Ciao a tutti! Come si chiama il canale per gli sviluppatori?
[12:52] <Pici> !it | KakamiOkatsu
[12:54] <regis_> hello
[12:54] <zippoLibero> all italians here
[12:55] <zippoLibero> I'm italian too
[12:55] <zippoLibero> lol
[12:55] <regis_> good night.
[12:55] <solofight> Leidenfrost: tell me something big ? not able to think of one
[12:56] <Leidenfrost> solofight: xonotic?
[12:56] <solofight> ok will try and let you know now
[12:56] <Leidenfrost> wait
[12:56] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ?
[12:57] <Leidenfrost> solofight: there's a "--download-only" option in apt-get
[12:57] <Leidenfrost> -d, --download-only Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or installed.
[12:58] <Leidenfrost> solofight: you can forget about "the big package". Just use apt-get -d and it will limit itself to download.
[12:59] <L3top> There is also --simulate and --dry-run.
[13:00] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ok will try that apt-get -d emacs
[13:00] <Leidenfrost> solofight: tell me if the download works
[13:00] <solofight> Leidenfrost: sure - right now apt-get update is still goingon
[13:00] <solofight> will try and let you know
[13:02] <detrate> everyday for the past 2 weeks, I've booted up and it's a gamble as to whether both my monitors will be recognized
[13:02] <detrate> I've booted into an old version of Ubuntu, no problems
[13:02] <detrate> it has to do with a recent update
[13:02] <detrate> and some sort of issue with my xorg.conf... but I usually have to battle with it for a good 30 minutes, it's like the solution never seems the same
[13:02] <detrate> unplug my monitor, plug it back in, remove my xorg.conf, reconfigure
[13:03] <detrate> Anyone else experiencing this annoyance?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> detrate  if all else fails, report a !bug
[13:11] <Azzle-Dazzle> Guys ( i think) since installing the new Gnome (3.6 i believe) my internet browsers font has changed and when i change it in the browsers settings it makes no difference. Any advice on this ?
[13:11] <detrate> dammit, I want to punch babies. Dual monitors have *just worked* since 8.04 and now "PRECISE" screws it up
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> detrate: did you upgrade, or is it a clean install?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> detrate  try arandr
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    please
[13:12] <Leidenfrost> detrate: Punching babies is bad.
[13:12] <Azzle-Dazzle> just one sec ill do it now
[13:12] <detrate> arandr?
[13:12] <detrate> it's a clean install
[13:12] <detrate> it was working for a while
[13:12] <detrate> but a recent upgrade has broken it
[13:12] <zub> Hi. I'm trying to rebuild a module with distro kernel, but I can't load the result because of symbol version mismatch. I'm using the same procedure as I have been using before. But with linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic it doesn't work. Could it be the Module.symvers in linux-headers-3.2.0-30-generic is wrong?
[13:13] <detrate> I've tried the swat-x nvidia drivers but they didn't help
[13:13] <Azzle-Dazzle> it says precise ?
[13:13] <detrate> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: that comes with gnome3 by default, so you don't need to manually install Gnome yourself
[13:13] <blubee> guys i have a nvidia gt 9600m in my laptop, last time i used ubuntu and checked there were usually drivers listed in the additional drivers such as nvidia-current, but now all i see is NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library.... is that the newest drivers to use with nvidia cards now?
[13:13] <zub> I'm basically doing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190787/ Not sure it's 100% correct, but at least it had worked in the past
[13:14] <detrate> blubee: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[13:14] <Azzle-Dazzle> I installed it from software manager it said it wasnt already installed so i added it, How could this affect the browser font tho ?
[13:14] <detrate> those are the latest
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> blubee: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: does it affect all web browsers?
[13:15]  * MonkeyDust glad he has intel and not nvidia
[13:15] <Azzle-Dazzle> well I only use chrome, Ill try another one now ActionParsnip :)
[13:15]  * ActionParsnip is glad he has nvidia, not intel :)
[13:15] <Leidenfrost> intel works fine.
[13:15] <blubee> ActionParsnip: thanks for that
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> blubee: my 6150 needs that so I can play urban terror, the 295 in the official repos makes it unplayable
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: did you have Xubuntu or Lubuntu installed initially by any chance?
[13:17] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip it is normal in Konqueror and ive always had ubuntu 12.04
[13:17] <simolokid> good afternoon
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: ahh Kubuntu
[13:17] <Azzle-Dazzle> i just saw a new version of gnome online so i downloaded it
[13:17] <simolokid> anyone that has some experience with mdadm? ;o or am i in the wrong channel for that
[13:18] <blubee> ok im going down for a reboot, thanks again ActionParsnip !
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: tried renaming ~/.google-chrome  then reruning the browser to get default configs
[13:18] <Azzle-Dazzle> how do i do that ? Im a ubuntu n00b :(
[13:19] <simolokid> mv ~/.google-chrome ~/.google-chrome_test ?
[13:19] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/yZJkwTRF
[13:19] <Leidenfrost> simolokid: You could try #gentoo, #arch or any other distro with mdadm by default. Or just wait for an advanced user :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: mv ~/.config/google-chrome ~/.config/google-chrome_old    then cold launch the browser
[13:20] <Leidenfrost> solofight: That's a great step forward.
[13:20] <Leidenfrost> solofight: but for some reasong the hashes mismatch.
[13:21] <Leidenfrost> solofight: can you send me a pastebin of your sources.list?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> solofight: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[13:22] <Azzle-Dazzle> No such file or directory ActionParsnip ? is it because its called Chromium for ubuntu and not google chrome ?
[13:22] <christopherwortm> http://www.codeweavers.com/flockthevote/ pledge and make this awesome software free!
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: are you sure it's not chromium and not chrome?
[13:23] <Azzle-Dazzle> yes its chromium, NOT google chrome (i thought they where the same ?)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: there is a difference
[13:23] <WLU>  okular keeps on crashing when I try to configure it. I just need to use emacs as the editor. Anyay to just write this up in okularrc as opposed to use the GUI interface for configuring okular
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: if you look in the ~/.config   folder you will find a config folder for the browser, rename it
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: it may be in the home dir or ~/.config somewhere
[13:24] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I shouldn't recommend running strange executables (far worse being hosted on something like dropbox).
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: thats my dropbox
[13:24] <solofight> Leidenfrost: http://pastebin.com/nuWLFxRV
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: its a script basically running the commands from the Ubuntu synaptic fix package commands
[13:25] <vantage|work> can anyone please help me with these bash messages after logging in on an upgraded Ubuntu 12.04 server (from 10.04) ?  ->  http://pastebin.com/0tY8AguP
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: check step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: thats ALL it is
[13:25] <Odisha1> hello..
[13:26] <Odisha1> i have downloaded ubuntu-12.04-dvd-i386.iso
[13:26] <Odisha1> how to install it in windows 7
[13:26] <dr_willis> !wubi | Odisha1
[13:26] <LjL> Odisha1: you don't install it "in" Windows. Ubuntu is a separate operating system.
[13:26] <dr_willis> Odisha1:  better to boot the disk and do a dual boot setup
[13:26] <Kladd> #disconnect
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Odisha1: sure, MD5 test it and then mount the ISO with magicdisk or daemontools, you can then run the installer from the ISO and use wubi
[13:26] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I see. It's just we're talking about servers. So it's appropiate to be a little paranoid about these things :)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: its all good, don't worry
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: as an ubuntu member I'm not going to damage user systems
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Odisha1: seems weird to use the DVD image when you are just going to use wubi...
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> vantage|work: sounds like you have added things to your ~/.bashrc file
[13:29] <vantage|work> ActionParsnip: hmm good point, thanks, haven't done any manual upgrading though. I'll have a look at it right now :)
[13:29] <me13> best way to rip youtube to flac or atleast mp3?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> vantage|work: check for the word 'complete'
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> me13: there is no single best way to do anything
[13:29] <dr_willis> me13:  theres numerous youtube downloader extensions for firefox that can do that
[13:30] <solofight> ActionParsnip: should i change back the natty to maverick or do this wget with the same natty ?
[13:30] <me13> they all suck and usually require payment for better encoding rates
[13:30] <me13> I want free
[13:30] <dr_willis> converting to flac wont gain you much
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> me13  'best' depends (among others) on how skilled you ar
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> e
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: why not just use: http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
[13:30] <dr_willis> me13:  the 2 i use all the time are tottaly free...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: that will give an MP3 from a youtube link...
[13:30] <me13> in high quality?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> me13: try it, sounds fine to me, sure it will to you too
[13:30] <dr_willis> upconvertig to a higher quality is sort of pointless...
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: very :)
[13:31] <me13> I dnt want to upconvert
[13:31] <me13> some songs on yotube have really high quality
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> me13: try the site, see what you get
[13:31] <me13> id like to capture that if possible
[13:31] <me13> not be ok with any sort of ceiling
[13:31] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Hey, I'm going to bed. Can you help solofight for me? Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] all over the place
[13:31] <hateball> me13: youtube-dl and ffmpeg is what I use
[13:32] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: I suggested him to change his sources.list from maverick to natty to see if there are issues concerning his old version.
[13:33] <me13> yeah 128kbps is gay
[13:33] <me13> I mix music live
[13:33] <fbernier> so gay people are also 128kbps?
[13:33] <hateball> !language
[13:33] <me13> maybe
[13:34] <MrBushido> i'm surprised how well lived mp3 is compared to lossless formats
[13:34] <MrBushido> and big hard drives
[13:34] <Guest3894> Has any one managed to install 12.10 with disk encryption? When I tick the disk encryption box in the installer, I can't get past the next screen titled "Choose a security key". There are no dialog boxes to enter a key, and the Next button is not accessible.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: is he using maverick now?
[13:34] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> Guest3894  #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Leidenfrost: oh jeses
[13:34] <Guest3894> MonkeyDust: oh, sorry
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> me13: try the site, you may like it. If you are ripping audio from youtube I doubt it will be a decent quality
[13:34] <solofight> Leidenfrost: thank you for all your efforts - have a goo dnight sleep
[13:34] <rango> this message come from ubuntu 12.10 beta 1
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip: Yes, it get's complicated given these ancient versions.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> rango: #ubuntu+1 for Quantal please
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> solofight: ty :)
[13:35] <me13> bull
[13:35] <solofight> Leidenfrost: last question -
[13:35] <me13> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRFqjjwP-CI   in 720p sounds amazing
[13:35] <Leidenfrost> solofight: shoot
[13:35] <me13> specially if you have decent headphones
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> me13: 720p is video quality, not audio quality
[13:35] <rango> why the font looks so bad under ubuntu browser?
[13:35] <dr_willis> me13:  i think this is getting beyond Ubuntu support...
[13:35] <Toph2> when i load an mp3 in Rythmbox and no longer want to listen to it, if I x out rythmnbox, the sound continues and I can't find where to shut it down
[13:36] <solofight> Leidenfrost: the command ActionParsnip gave wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage should i do with the natty or maverick ?
[13:36] <me13> the higher you raise the video quality the better the audio quality
[13:36] <solofight> i guess he is suggesting the hash sum error which i got for natty
[13:36] <solofight> ?
[13:36] <dr_willis> Toph2:  top right volume icon, ch3eck that its still playing
[13:36] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ^
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> me13  #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[13:36] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip I found the folder :) sorry it took so long, What now ? just rename it ?
[13:36] <dr_willis> me13:  i can have high quality video with no audio. :) but yes. this is now OT.
[13:37] <solofight> You said good progress when i got that error with natty - does that mean the server is not the problem but the chances are with firewall ?
[13:37] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ^
[13:37] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I'm alive lol
[13:37] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, yes, it is still playing and I can't turn it off other than mute
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: yea just give it a different name and rerun the app to get new profile
[13:37] <dr_willis> theres a play/pause button in the volume conrol menu i belive.
[13:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:38] <solofight> Leidenfrost: sorry - missed to direct the sentences to you by specifying name - so did that with a ^
[13:38] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I guess that was a command to fix the hash mismatch of "packages" file. So it should make the "natty" version of sources.list work. But I'm not that advanced into ubuntu (or debian, btw) administration, so I'm not sure.
[13:38] <konaya> I have a lot of traffic going through one of my network interfaces which doesn't make sense. Firstly, it's down. Secondly, it's approx. 500GB/min, which is a bit over capacity.
[13:38] <konaya> What could be the problem?
[13:38] <detrate> 4 reboots later and it just worked...
[13:38] <detrate> doesn't make sense
[13:38] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ok thanks - what about you saying great progress ?
[13:38] <solofight> problem with firewall and not server is it ?
[13:39] <Azzle-Dazzle> Its still the same :( thats weird aint it, Maybe i should just use a different browser ?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: are there bugs reported?
[13:40] <vantage|work> one nasty thing, if you want to remove ubuntu afterwards and keep windows. It messes up the bootsector
[13:40] <Leidenfrost> solofight: Changing the sources.list to natty made the packages download, but generate a hash mismatch. That means the repository is somewhat broken, yet there are no network problems. Take in account that these ancient version get abandoned easily, making all the work harder.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: you can rename the old profile back if you want
[13:40] <jarrad> Who in their right mind would want to reinstall windows :P
[13:41] <OerHeks> vantage|work, just boot from your windows dvd, and repair the MBR.
[13:41] <vantage|work> ActionParsnip: almost there, removed one message already. Looking to find the other one
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: delete the standing profile as its not much use to you
[13:41] <Azzle-Dazzle> not that I know of ActionParsnip and it only affects chrome, The rest of the system is how ive selected it to be.
[13:41] <Azzle-Dazzle> ok ill give it a try now
[13:41] <vantage|work> OerHeks: indeed :) but imagine people who don't know that, it's pure panick
[13:41] <vantage|work> panic*
[13:41] <solofight> Leidenfrost: so how do i proceed ? can you give me a brief ? with which i can google read and execute ?
[13:41] <OerHeks> vantage|work, maybe, maybe not.
[13:42] <Azzle-Dazzle> where would I find this standing profile ? i cant see it inside either chrome folder
[13:43] <hatman15> hello
[13:43] <hatman15> I'm planning on installing Win7 and some Linux distro (maybe ubuntu)
[13:43] <Leidenfrost> solofight: No. It's something tricky and that's as far as I can go. Given the same situation, I'd went bananas already and just force-upgraded everything to precise.
[13:44]  * vantage|work wonders where the sneaky little line of code is causing the bash message at login, bashrc is done, where's the other one? here kitty kitty
[13:44] <hatman15> Which one shall I install first? Win 7 or ubuntu?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Azzle-Dazzle: its the one you renamed
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> hatman15  first win, then lin
[13:44] <vman> Yep
[13:44] <solofight> Leidenfrost: oh you can force upgrade ! will read about it
[13:44] <hatman15> MonkeyDust: explain
[13:44] <Azzle-Dazzle> oooh I deleted it already lol
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> hatman15  windows "destroys" the grub menu
[13:44] <hatman15> is it because windows ruins the bootloader right?
[13:44] <hatman15> ok
[13:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: thank you so much - spending your sleep time in helping me - sincerely appereciate it
[13:45] <vman> it overwrites the bootloader
[13:45] <solofight> Good night Leidenfrost - will try something - if persists will talk to you here tomorrow
[13:45] <solofight> Leidenfrost: ++
[13:45] <Leidenfrost> solofight: I mean, change the repos to precise ones and full upgrade everything. Sure after that breakages will occur everywhere. But I'd just do that to my desktop, so I don't care. Servers are more delicate.
[13:45] <Leidenfrost> solofight: haha yw
[13:46] <hatman15> I haven't installed Windows in a while, does anyone remember if it is possible to assign a certain amount (1/2 of C:\ partition) as Windows partition?
[13:46] <solofight> hatman15: yes - but this question more belongs to #windows
[13:46] <hatman15> yes
[13:46] <hatman15> ok
[13:46] <jamiejackson_> From my applications, I would like to send email to localhost, and instead of sending the email out, the email gets logged. So, I'm looking for something like a mock sendmail. (I'm firewalled at work, so I need a way to make sure my apps are sending email.)
[13:46] <solofight> if you have enough space you can i believe
[13:46] <Leidenfrost> ActionParsnip, solofight: I'm off. Cya.
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> Ho
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> *hi
[13:47] <solofight> hateball: take much care while fragmenting the data to make this possible
[13:47] <solofight> Leidenfrost: cya
[13:47] <jamiejackson_> ...so, do you know of something that fits the bill?
[13:47] <Dr4g|bbs> Hey guys, I want to add a cron entry,and write to a log file every time i run this cron task so I can check that it's running.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: do you have a desktop UI?
[13:47] <callipygous> hello all
[13:47] <Dr4g|bbs> I have some stuff registered in cron.hourly file, but it's not actually running (i think) and would like some logging to check.
[13:48] <ShapeShifter499> I really messed up my graphics and now I'm in recovery mode, I can fix this if someone can please tell me the name of the open source ati/radeon graphic package
[13:48] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:48] <vman> Dr4, just add a "; echo "blah blah" > filename" to the entry
[13:48] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: see my last msg, and i'm on ubuntu server, but there's no difference in terms of the cron via the command-line
[13:48] <hatman15> I have back-up'd my files to the D:\ drive with this: http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage  I have lost lots of knowledge of Linux (last time I had installed Linux was 6 years ago or something) but do I need to format something with some program from Linux Rescue before/after I install Windows?
[13:48] <vman> or "&& echo ..."
[13:49] <tsimpson> hatman15: no, the installer should detect you have a windows install and give you the option to set up dual-boot automatically (things have moved on in the last 6 years)
[13:49] <callipygous> Ubuntu desktop is gnome, right?
[13:49] <ShapeShifter499> Anyone?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  yes gnome3
[13:50] <MrBushido> unity, gnome is available tho
[13:50] <vman> by default it's the unity crap
[13:50] <callipygous> What I'm looking at looks gnome-ish, but has no configuration
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: true, was going to suggest gnome-schedule to config cron :)
[13:50] <MrBushido> as is kde and xfce (<- my personal favourite)
[13:50] <hatman15> tsimpson: Ok. So installing Windows 50% partition will be just fine and Ubuntu is installable on there?
[13:50] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: i need command line here :)
[13:50] <callipygous> that is to say I don't see how I can configure the dock or make changes to it's appearance
[13:50] <Azzle-Dazzle> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69014495/Chromefonts.png - I think ill change browser, Whats the default Konqueror like ?
[13:50] <Dr4g|bbs>  have some stuff registered in cron.hourly file, but it's not actually running (i think) and would like some logging to check. - can someone help me add logging to my cron task
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: you can make a script that is then cron'd and in the script have an echo command or two
[13:50] <callipygous> unity crap?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  try myUnity or compiz-config
[13:51] <vman> sorry, I think less highly of gnome3 :)
[13:51] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: can you pastbin me an example of your suggestion please ?
[13:51] <MrBushido> vman: emacs or vim? :P
[13:51] <vman> vi
[13:51] <karihre> ok guys, I have a nfs4 server which I need to pass through iptables firewall, is there a way to get it to use specific ports? currently rpc.mountd seems to be listening to random (high) ports while rpcbind is listening on port 111, is rpcbind even needed?
[13:51] <callipygous> MonkeyDust: no idea, neither of those commands run
[13:51] <tsimpson> hatman15: that should be ok, just make sure you run the disk check and defragment tools before installing. the installer will then shrink the windows partition and set up the rest of the space for Ubuntu
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> callipygous  is it unity, you're in?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> gtg
[13:52] <callipygous> MonkeyDust: I wouldn't know how to tell
[13:52] <callipygous> it looks okay, all except the dock
[13:52] <hatman15> tsimpson: Can't I just install Windows 50% of C:\?
[13:52] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:52] <hatman15> tsimpson: Then I can just install Ubuntu the other 50%
[13:52] <OerHeks> !info glib
[13:53] <ShapeShifter499> No one is answering me in the main Ubuntu room, can someone please tell me the package name for the opensource ati/radeon graphic drivers so I may install via apt-get
[13:53] <hatman15> tsimpson: I am not familiar with shrinking partitions and sounds scary to me
[13:53] <tsimpson> hatman15: if you go through the windows install manually, then you should be able to do that, yes
[13:53] <hatman15> ok
[13:54] <hatman15> thanks everyone for the help, if I am able to install windows/ubuntu duo, then I will shout it out here. thanks! bye!
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: http://pastebin.com/DWFhkWPp
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: then cron the script
[13:56] <Dr4g|bbs> ActionParsnip: okay thanks, i'll get to this - in the middle of something.
[13:56] <EmoSpice> Let's see how this do-release-upgrade goes...
[13:56] <callipygous> Can somebody tell me what provides glib and intltoolize?
[13:57] <retrorex> hey guys i run a very old pc on ubuntu (hardy lts). I know it has got not support. The thing is that the process PYTHON uses 5.mb of ram so I want to disable the process from strting up. Yep python is cool and all but I can't affprd it any help??
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: you get the idea, the echos let you know how stuff it going
[13:57] <gordonjcp> retrorex: python itself won't be starting, but some sort of process using it will
[13:57] <EmoSpice> retrorex: there's got to be a piece of software that requires it.
[13:57] <Dr4g|bbs> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Dr4g|bbs: plus, if yu want to edit the running, you don't have to mess with cron, and you can copy the script and modify it and cron that to make a similar script run :)
[13:58] <gurkee> How do I list the 'autostart' daemons in 12.04? Specifically, I would like to see if sshd starts up. (if I 'reboot' the server, I cannot connect via ssh. If i click 'restart' in the provider's web interface, sshd starts up)
[13:58] <thirsteh> is there a media player that isn't terribly slow (I don't need all the bells and whistles, just show and play files in a directory. Don't even care about album names or genres.) Something like XMMS?
[13:59] <retrorex> ps x | grep python
[13:59] <retrorex>  5397 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.5 /usr/bin/smart-notifier
[13:59] <retrorex>  5406 ?        S      0:00 python /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py
[13:59] <retrorex>  5802 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep python
[13:59] <retrorex> @gordonjcp EmoSpice
[13:59] <FloodBot1> retrorex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <thirsteh> so not banshee or rhythmbox
[13:59] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: There're plenty. Deadbeef is decent. Even lighter is cmus or mocp.
[14:00] <thirsteh> ohhh, Deadbeef. That's a Foobar clone, right?
[14:00] <Azzle-Dazzle> ActionParsnip: I FIXED IT :) !! woop woop
[14:00] <thirsteh> I'd forgotten about that
[14:00] <Azzle-Dazzle> thanks !
[14:00] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: somewhat.
[14:00] <retrorex> @gordonjcp EmoSpice I guess I don't need smart notifier and printer
[14:00] <thirsteh> thanks EmoSpice
[14:00] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: yeah.
[14:01] <callipygous> Can anybody tell me what provides glib?
[14:01] <utu-san> thirsteh: get audacious
[14:01] <callipygous> what package
[14:02] <retrorex> k
[14:02] <boutell> hi folks, I have a strange issue with bash and xargs. xargs only runs my command once. If I substitute plain old 'ls' for my bash script, ls gets run once for every file in the folder, as you'd expect here:
[14:02] <boutell> find . | xargs ./test.sh
[14:02] <Azzle-Dazzle> next on my to do list: Are there any equalizer live wallpapers for ubuntu ?
[14:02] <thirsteh> utu-san, EmoSpice: DeadBeeF, cmus (ncurses, w00t) and Audacius all look great, thanks
[14:02] <iceroot> boutell: #bash
[14:03] <callipygous> How do you configure the Ubuntu desktop?
[14:03] <solofight> ActionParsnip: can you please give me some tips on how to proceed ?
[14:03] <callipygous> It doesn't seem to have any thing to configure it
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> solofight: on what?
[14:04] <solofight> Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] all over the place
[14:04] <solofight> ActionParsnip: ^
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> solofight: I'd just clea install with Precise.
[14:04] <solofight> ActionParsnip: clea install with Precise ? please explain
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> solofight: maverick is dead, Precise is the latest stable release and is LTS
[14:05] <EmoSpice> thirsteh: I actually prefer mocp over ncurses. I'd suggest giving it a look as well
[14:05] <thirsteh> will do
[14:06] <EmoSpice> s/ncurses/cmus/
[14:06] <solofight> ActionParsnip: LTS ?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes
[14:07]  * solofight googles LTS
[14:07] <solofight> Long Term Support
[14:07] <solofight> ok
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes, well done :)
[14:07] <Pici> boutell: Thats how xargs works.  use -n 1  if you want it to execute the command per 1 arguments, or use -I {} ./script.sh {}   (a better test would be to use echo rather than ls, since you can more easily see how many times the command is being executed)
[14:07] <callipygous> What is this about:
[14:07] <solofight> ActionParsnip: so you are suggesting a fresh install of Precise after removing Maverick ?
[14:07] <callipygous> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libglib-2.0-0'
[14:08] <callipygous> What does "Couldn't find package by regex" mean?
[14:08] <EmoSpice> that it couldn't find any package matching that regex? ;)
[14:08] <callipygous> apt-cache search glib showed that libglib-2.0-0 is there
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> solofight: yes, you will get to the latest OS faster and it will be more stable. You can restore your user data from your backups
[14:09] <utu-san> callipygous: it is  libglib2.0-0
[14:09] <bzb> i just install opensuse12.2.  flash player in firefox does not work with the latest installed flashplayer from adobe.  how can i find out what's wrong.  any log message i can look at?
[14:09] <solofight> ActionParsnip: am talking about a server - taking back up and restoring is going to take huge time :(
[14:09] <Pici> bzb: This is #ubuntu, we do not support opensuse.
[14:10] <saml> hey, I have this https://gist.github.com/3666549     and when I do   sudo service cq-author start,  I get  that process terminated immediately
[14:10] <callipygous> that worked utu-san , thanks
[14:10] <callipygous> I just copied and pasted what you said
[14:10] <saml> when I run the script line in the shell, it works though
[14:11] <solofight> ActionParsnip: this cannot be fixed at all ?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> solofight: you should have a regular backup anyway...
[14:12] <solofight> ActionParsnip: not enough support for scheduled backups here - they dont recognize the importance of it
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> solofight: you'll learn the value of backups when a drive fails
[14:13] <solofight> ActionParsnip: i personally have a 600GB external drive to take backup of my personal files which i use for my home
[14:13] <solofight> office - they need to provide
[14:13] <solofight> ActionParsnip: can you please help me in recovering this ?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> solofight: a 1Tb USB drive costs nothing compared to the value of your data
[14:16] <jrib> solofight: you can upgrade (but it will take you longer because you need to do 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 to get to 12.04 (precise)).  See ubottu
[14:16] <jrib> !upgrade > solofight
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ages longer
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: shame its not 10.04 :(
[14:17] <jrib> ActionParsnip: yep
[14:17]  * EmoSpice is currently doing an upgrade 11.10 -> 12.04. "Ages" is an understatement.
[14:17] <jrib> fresh install takes like 15 minutes if you have the iso already
[14:18] <gurkee> if I '$ reboot' the server, I cannot connect via ssh afterwards. If i click 'restart' in the provider's web interface, I can. What might be the difference?
[14:18] <gurkee> (Ubuntu 12.04 server)
[14:18] <jrib> gurkee: does sshd start when you "'$ reboot' the server"?
[14:18] <gurkee> jrib: I guess it does not, that's why I can't connect afterwards
[14:19] <gurkee> jrib: so the question likely is: why does sshd start in one case and not in the other?
[14:19] <solofight> jrib: thats ok - taking longer time is ok
[14:19] <jrib> gurkee: I think we would have to know what exactly 'restart' does in the provider's web interface
[14:19] <solofight> jrib: the problem is - Here's the initial msg with the problem: (09:02:51 AM) solofight: People - i ran out of options to check - I am using 64 bit ubuntu 10.10 which is not being supported anymore - when i try to upgrade it, its giving me this kind of error Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main gdb amd64 7.2-1ubuntu3.1   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] all over the
[14:19] <jrib> solofight: yes, see ubottu's wiki link
[14:20] <ThinkT510> !eol | solofight
[14:20] <gurkee> jrib: I did # initctl list and it lists, among others: ssh start/running, process 18555 -- this means that sshd is properly set up as startup daemon, right?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> solofight: clean install is an option?
[14:21] <flavio_> ?
[14:21] <gurkee> jrib: I just realize that it could be a firewall issue: when I try to connect in case I rebooted manually ("# reboot"), I immediately receive a 'connection refused'.
[14:21] <jrib> gurkee: I think that just implies it's running now.  I think you'd get the same output if you didn't have it starting automatically at boot but ran it later with "sudo service ssh start"
[14:21] <solofight> cfhowlett: no not right now
[14:22] <gurkee> jrib: then, how do I find out if sshd is configured for automatic startup?
[14:22] <jrib> gurkee: check /etc/init/ssh.conf*
[14:22] <gurkee> jrib: start on filesystem
[14:23] <gurkee> means that it starts as soon as the filesystem job is done, right?
[14:23] <jrib> gurkee: that means that script executes, sure
[14:25] <jrib> gurkee: for example the default script tests a few things in it.  Also, you need to make sure there's no /etc/init/ssh.override
[14:25] <zteam> Hi all
[14:25] <truexfan81> a friend installed icewm on her 11.04, it doesn't give her the option to login to it, it works fine on my 12.04 netbook, so i'm hoping you guys can help
[14:26] <zteam> I try to create a multi-boot usb-key with Ubuntu and clonezilla live, it works great on my laptop but my desktop machine refuses to boot from it
[14:26] <zteam> and just states "no ui configuration directive found"
[14:26] <gurkee> jrib: oh, sorry for wasting your time,that was on the wrong machine. :-) On the machine in question it says: start on filesystem or runlevel [2345].
[14:27] <solofight> can i download and install ssh server in my 10.10 64 bit ? if yes please point me to the right directionon how to
[14:27] <zteam> Any ideas?
[14:27] <subz3r0> solofight, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:27] <solofight> i get only results showing apt-get way. I want to do this manually
[14:27] <solofight> subz3r0: am running a EOL release - so it says broken packages
[14:27] <cfhowlett> zteam: if it boots on lappy, the boot medium is good.  Sounds like the desktop is seeking an extra boot parameter.
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: so use the old-releases repository
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:28] <solofight> LjL: how to ?
[14:28] <subz3r0> solofight, fix the debs or upgrade
[14:28] <zteam> cfhowlett, yes, I agree but I don't understand why?
[14:28] <LjL> solofight: replace your repository URLs in /etc/apt/sources.list with that
[14:28] <zteam> cfhowlett, It boots a "normal" usb-key with just Ubuntu just fine
[14:28] <solofight> subz3r0: upgradation fails because of some fetch error which ive been struggling with for past few days - how to fix the debs ?
[14:29] <gurkee> jrib: there is no override. However, I think this is important: when I doo 'reboot' and then have a look in the 'process list' in the web interface, I see that mainly only /sbin/init is running. When I then do 'restart' in the web interface, I see the following output: A timeout occured while waiting for the vserver to finish and it will be killed. process list: 18437 7085 v2201209138089124 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/init
[14:29] <subz3r0> solofight, follow the steps of LjL
[14:29] <alexr2> Is there any way to get 2 different wallpapers on 2 monitors?
[14:29] <gurkee> i.e. it looks like during manual 'reboot' via console, the init process hangs.
[14:30] <solofight> LjL: am here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[14:30] <jrib> gurkee: so if you wait long enough, the machine finally comes up?
[14:30] <solofight> now how to get the ssh url and update my sources.list ?
[14:30] <zykotick9> alexr2: using compiz wallpaper management, and disabling USED to work - no idea if that's possible anymore... good luck.
[14:31] <solofight> LjL: ^
[14:31] <jrib> solofight: this is all on the wiki...
[14:31] <zykotick9> alexr2: sorry "... and disabling default USED to work"
[14:31] <gurkee> jrib: I did # reboot, waited for at least 5 minutes and the process list in the web interface still only shows /sbin/init. When I do restart via web interface, the system comes up within 10 seconds.
[14:31] <solofight> this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ??
[14:31] <cfhowlett> zteam: is this a new or old computer?  Wonder if it's auto booting a network or some of that new UEFI stuff I keep hearing about...
[14:31] <solofight> jrib: this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ?
[14:32] <zteam> cfhowlett, Nope, it doesn't have UEIFI
[14:32] <jrib> gurkee: but does the system actually shut down when you issue reboot?  (i.e. does it hang during boot or during the shutdown phase)
[14:32] <jrib> solofight: yes
[14:32] <cfhowlett> zteam: stay in channel and ask again.  Sorry I can't offer any kind of definitive assistance with this.
[14:33] <jrib> solofight: actually, let me see.
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: that
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: that's a good question. I am not entirely sure.
[14:34] <gurkee> jrib: I am currently trying to interprete /var/log/upstart/rc.log
[14:34] <zteam> cfhowlett, yes, will do, thanks anyway
[14:35] <jrib> gurkee: if you shutdown the system, you can bring it up with the web interface?  If so, see if "shutdown -h now" actually shutsdown the system
[14:35] <AminosAmigos> Hello, i lost files how can i recover them ?
[14:35] <gurkee> jrib: okay, I try that
[14:36] <ThinkT510> AminosAmigos: backups to the rescue
[14:36] <gurkee> jrib: I think this  takes already too long. I see from the webinterface that there is this process: /bin/sh /etc/rc0.d/S20sendsigs stop
[14:36] <emil-> AminosAmigos: there is a program called "scalpel" you can use to recover files that you have deleted
[14:36] <gurkee> jrib: (among others). It's still there.
[14:37] <jrib> solofight: that page doesn't seem to have been updated.  But yes, you can use old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list (you can see the 9.10 page as an example, but keep in mind you can't just copy and paste)
[14:37] <AminosAmigos> Ok thnx
[14:37] <gurkee> jrib: yeah, that's definitely the problem. it does not shut down. in which log files should I have a look to find out the cause?
[14:38] <jrib> gurkee: not sure
[14:38] <solofight> jrib: thank you will try now
[14:38] <gurkee> jrib: /bin/sh /etc/rc0.d/S20sendsigs stop is still running.
[14:39] <AminosAmigos> @emil does it work even  if another software "purged" them ? cuz my files where purged by Httrack
[14:39] <callipygous> can the Ubuntu desktop me configured at all?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> callipygous: does not compute
[14:40] <kravion> hi, i'm experiencing issues with my ubuntu wireless... the network works fine and then suddenly the connection speed will drop to 1mbps and webpages etc wont load... i'm sure its a problem with linux as there was no problem on the same hardware in windows... currently i've tried removing networkmanager and using wcid and problem still persists
[14:41] <adib> do you have the proper drivers?
[14:42] <OerHeks> kravion, i solved it by disabling IPv6
[14:42] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[14:43] <adib> soo, anyone knows how to fix the wrong resolution, am on an macbook 8.1 with ubuntu 12.04, it does not show the right one.
[14:44] <OerHeks> adib did you check the mactel pages ?
[14:44] <OerHeks> !mac
[14:45] <adib> yes i did, every fix i could find there involves xorg.conf, which and i dont have and the way to gen those according to google doesnt work. OerHeks
[14:46] <OerHeks> adib to generate a Xorg, >>  sudo Xorg -configure
[14:47] <safinaskar> adib: make sure you have proper video drivers installed
[14:47] <adib> fatal server error...
[14:47] <adib> server is already active for display 0
[14:48] <safinaskar> adib: are you sure you wrote "sudo Xorg -configure" and not just "sudo Xorg"?
[14:48] <adib> yes safinaskar
[14:48] <OerHeks> adib, boot in recovery mode, see answer #1 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/129941/my-ubuntu-12-04-has-no-xorg-conf-is-that-normal
[14:49] <adib> does it matter if i dont have that folder either?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !mac | adib
[14:50] <rfernandes> my laptop does not come back from suspend mode
[14:50] <adib> ActionParsnip:  if you look up you see that i already did check that
[14:51] <adib> do you have something important running?
[14:51] <adib> i think i had that before and forcing it to shutdown by using the power switch button fixed it
[14:52] <truexfan81> hey does anyone know if mate can be installed via ppa in 11.04?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> adib: what is the video chip used?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=mate   fill your boots
[14:53] <jrib> gurkee: you can probably use your web interface to see what isn't shutting down?  What non-default services are you running?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: Natty is EOL soon
[14:53] <truexfan81> how soon?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: October
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> truexfan81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:54] <adib> ActionParsnip:  its Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
[14:54] <adib> i think
[14:54] <rfernandes> i am using a HP Pavilion dv4; that's all i know
[14:54] <gurkee> jrib: the web interface only shows the process list. Thanks for your offer, but does this help you? There is no terminal :(. This is a vServer and the image is an Ubuntu 12.04 server minimal image which I installed a few hours ago. So almost nothing is running there.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> adib: is it ok in the Quantal live CD desktop?
[14:55] <adib> uhh?
[14:55] <gurkee> jrib: I just posted to the provider's forum that there is a problem with this image during shutdown.
[14:55] <jrib> gurkee: ah
[14:55] <gurkee> jrib: the provider declares this image to be still in 'beta' phase, so I guess they do not have a lot of experience with this image.
[14:57] <elijah> Hey guys, in my login keyring there are a ton of passwords, how did they get there? They are all for websites, is it Lastpass extension for Chrome?
[14:58] <nhat_> alo
[14:58] <derekv> I'm configuring an ubuntu machine that will be imaged onto several machines for developement.  the projects go into /common which is mounted on a seperate drive.  In the future, we might want to have other projects which require a differenc configuration... i'd like to be able to choose which drive to mount on /common, and to be able to store some system configuration (overrides) on the /common
[14:58] <xente> I installed Ubuntu server on a few computers and not long after I installed it on a few more. When I ssh and run w or who on the first group, they only print the IP address from source computer but the second group looks up the hostname. Does anyone know what the difference could be? I installed Ubuntu using the same methods and (as far as I remember) I configured them exactly the same
[14:59] <derekv> did that make sense?
[14:59] <gurkee> jrib: these are the last lines of /var/log/upstart/rc.log: http://ctrlv.it/id/MzA4NTQ1
[14:59] <derekv> Want to seperate out OS configuration from things which are project specific, so that the images can be handled seperatly.
[15:00] <derekv> reboot to load different project is OK
[15:02] <adib> ActionParsnip: can you help me? i launched in recovery mode but i think it stopped or it is taking a long time
[15:03] <derekv> I guess the mountpoint /common is misleading in this context
[15:05] <angs> I forgot my admin password, how can I recover it?
[15:05] <elijah> Easy stack overflow points here if anyone wants a shot at them - http://askubuntu.com/questions/185160/how-did-all-the-passwords-get-in-my-login-keyring
[15:05] <cfhowlett> !password|angs
[15:06] <safinaskar> adib: reboot you computer and keep "shift" pressed at bootup
[15:06] <safinaskar> adib: sorry. not you
[15:06] <adib> :P
[15:06] <safinaskar> angs: reboot you computer and keep "shift" pressed at bootup
[15:06] <safinaskar> angs: then type "e"
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then add "rw init=/bin/bash" after vmlinuz-343453423
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then type "ctrl-x"
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: then your system will run, but in very strange mode
[15:07] <safinaskar> angs: type "passwd"
[15:08] <adib> safinaskar: any chance you can help me also?
[15:08] <Guest52165> how  by software name locate where it is installed ?
[15:08] <truexfan81> ActionParsnip:  thanks for the heads up about natty, my friend will be upgrading to 12.04 soon
[15:08] <safinaskar> angs: :) (this is way you can hack nearly any linux computer)
[15:09] <blackshirt> not truelly true
[15:09] <Pumpkin-> "hack", assuming you have physical access to the machine in question, and it doesn't have encrypted drives.
[15:09] <angs> safinaskar: thanks a lot, I will try :)
[15:09] <Pumpkin-> generally some other form of security has already failed by the point a bad guy has that access
[15:11] <xente> does anyone know why w.procps would show the ip address of the connecting computer on some installations and not on others when they should be configured exactly the same?
[15:11] <gordonjcp> safinaskar: "crack", not "hack", and it's valid for just about any OS not just Linux
[15:12] <kevin1961> Hi. have just got a small netbook Acer aspire one model NAV50 who has used one and with what distro please
[15:12] <kevin1961> have seenpuupy linux andPeppermint etc
[15:12] <zykotick9> !ot | kevin1961
[15:12] <OerHeks> kevin1961, try ubuntu in live mode
[15:13] <kevin1961> yeah but there are more users here and its just a quicky lol
[15:13] <cfhowlett> kevin1961: see lubuntu or xubuntu for lightweight distros
[15:14] <blackshirt> try debian
[15:14] <kevin1961> OK thanks,will see what youtube comes up with, always a good idea. Thanks
[15:16] <Pratz_> Hi friends, I have got a new Dell Ultrabook, but am unable to install ubuntu.
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: what kind of issues?
[15:16] <Pratz_> When trying to install, it only shows /dev/sdb
[15:17] <Pratz_> Cant click on new partition tables or anything
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: NOT your hdd?
[15:17] <Pratz_> nop
[15:17] <Pratz_> I started in Try mode and open gparted
[15:17] <David_Miller> Good morning, anyone know how I can get the mfi driver working on ubuntu?
[15:17] <Pratz_> deleted the OS partition of 450 gb
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: similar issue here.  had to manually kill a gpt partition scheme
[15:17] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: How do we do that?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: wait one
[15:18] <adib> well apperently i cant get in recovery mode, any other way to get an xorg.conf? sudo Xorg -configure doesnt work
[15:18] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: Also, the laptop has 32gb ssd. I wish to make use of that too.
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: I don't have enough experience to advise about ssd
[15:19]  * niee Slaps Sir
[15:19] <Sir> :)
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: run fdisk in a terminal.  if it returns "WARNING: gpt ... DETECTED"  we'll continue
[15:20] <zykotick9> adib: the command is "sudo X -configure".  does it say already running?  if so, use "sudo X -configure :1"
[15:20] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: only "fdisk" ?
[15:20] <Pratz_> it shows usage and options help.
[15:20] <adib> ill try that zykotick9 everyone else said Xorg or something else
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: grr.  bad intel. no.
[15:21] <Pratz_> cfhowlett:  :)
[15:21] <magma> In a network, is it possible to register users so that they are registered in windows and unix at the same time?
[15:22] <adib> k i got teh file
[15:22] <adib> thanks zykotick9
[15:22] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: trying to find the command to identify the current partition scheme.  how about system disk tools>hdd properties?
[15:22] <zykotick9> adib: glad to help
[15:22] <adib> also you know the command to move the file and rename it?
[15:22] <safinaskar> adib: you should be able to set right resolution in GUI. if you cannot then you have no right drivers
[15:22] <adib> dont feel like chaging all the folders :P
[15:22] <safinaskar> adib: so try to install lastest kernel
[15:23] <zykotick9> adib: "sudo cp /where/the/new/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[15:23] <adib> k thx
[15:23] <zykotick9> adib: if you have an xorg.conf currently you might want to back it up first - as my command will overwrite it!
[15:24] <adib> i dont have one zykotick9, thats why i need to generate on
[15:24] <adib> one
[15:24] <ciccio> hi
[15:24] <ciccio> ciao
[15:24] <ciccio> !list
[15:24] <zykotick9> adib: also, you might have to rename it to xorg.conf (i seem to remember the generated one is called something different)
[15:24] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: May be this can help? http://i.imgur.com/cRFNP.png
[15:24] <safinaskar> adib: i don't know why someone you give command "sudo Xorg -configure".    but if you want to run it, you should at first log out from X, then type "sudo service gdm stop" to real console (but instead of gdm put ubuntu's analogue of gdm, i don't know what is it), then type "sudo Xorg -configure" to console
[15:24] <adib> yeah it is xorg.conf.new
[15:24] <ciccio> !list
[15:25] <ciccio> !list
[15:25] <zykotick9>  adib: "sudo cp /where/the/new/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf" would work then
[15:25] <adib> k thx
[15:25] <zykotick9> safinaskar: fyi i doubt many people in #ubuntu are still using gdm, it's lightdm now
[15:25] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: can you move /dev/sda3 next to sda2?
[15:26] <zykotick9> safinaskar: also "sudo X -configure :1" gets around the running Xorg
[15:26] <Owner> anyone here?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Owner: yes
[15:26] <jiffe98> I have 2 new supermicro machines that I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on and they don't seem to boot every time, it always get to the grub screen but sometimes it will hang after that and if I hard reset it, it will boot just fine
[15:27] <jiffe98> any idea what that might be or where I might look?
[15:28] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: I have deleted sda3, so now its sda1, sda2, unallocated
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: and unallocated STILL won't partition?
[15:28] <Pratz_> cfhowlett: It can
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: so problem solved?
[15:29] <Pratz_> but doesn't show up while intallation. Retrying though.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: what video chip?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Pratz_: First md5sum your iso to ensure you got a good download.  If it's bad, download the torrent.  If it's good, consider getting the alternate installer iso.
[15:30] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: Matrox G200eW, this is ubuntu server also
[15:30] <cfhowlett> and with I bid ubuntu "adieu" for the night here in China.  Ciao.
[15:33] <killer> O_o
[15:33] <petar_> any one here who can help me with the configuration of my ubuntu-system as a home-router?
[15:35] <Owner> this place is suprisingly not active
[15:35] <Owner> 1670 idlers of 1673
[15:36] <safinaskar> adib: also i think you don't need to manipulate xorg.conf. just install drivers. also , tell us, what is your video card?
[15:36] <adib> Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory, thats the one i found on apple site
[15:37] <zykotick9> adib: intel typically doesn't need xorg.conf - is this an apple computer?
[15:37] <adib> yes
[15:37] <adib> like i said 10x before but w/e
[15:37] <adib> macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011
[15:38] <petar_> any one here who can help me config my linux-desktop to act as a home-router?
[15:39] <roy___> perhaps someone can help me out here, i have ubuntu installed on my laptop but shutdown unexpectedly .. and couldn't reboot, i ran fsck and fixed errors and can boot now, but somehow graphics configuration is broken and i'm unable to fix it
[15:39] <adib> 13inch btw zykotick9
[15:39] <zykotick9> roy___: perhaps sharing what graphics card you have would help the channel
[15:40] <zykotick9> roy___: if you aren't sure "lspci | grep -i vga" from a terminal will tell you
[15:40] <frnk> hi there. I have a webserver running ubuntu, nothing special, but apt-get tells me of 'unmet dependencies'... is there a possibility to get this plain standard working? what is recommended to put into sources-list? does anyone here have a standard solution for me, i'm not familiar with ubuntu and dont want to wreck the system.
[15:41] <tico96> hi
[15:41] <sunnymolini> petar_, Are you using ubuntu server or desktop?
[15:41] <roy___> zykotick9: actually i'm unable to type the | character in the terminal , its on a laptop
[15:41] <krababbel> petar_: what do you want to do? firewall or just router?
[15:41] <sunnymolini> I know you said linux-desktop, but is that just the form factor or the distro
[15:41] <jrib> frnk: pastebin what is happening (and what you ran)
[15:41] <roy___> zykotick9: i get the < character instead
[15:42] <zykotick9> roy___: lol, well good luck then
[15:42] <petar_> sunnymolini, im using ubuntu desktop. but i plan to switch to debian later.  Don't care much for a firewall.
[15:42] <tico96> someone knows how to boot a bootable usb on mac? holding alt while booting doesn't help much
[15:42] <jrib> roy___: you're free to do that.  But if you wish to stay here and participate, please mind your language
[15:42] <adib> c tico96
[15:43] <adib> also tico96 if you want to install ubuntu first get refit
[15:43] <krababbel> petar_: enable ip fowarding in /etc/sysctl.conf and it will route between interfaces, that's all
[15:43] <petar_> I've tried to install and configure shorewall, but i'm not getting it to work. I can access the internet from the ubuntu-computer, but if i try to connect any other computers to the local lan they just get made up ip-adresses and it doesn't work
[15:43] <tico96> is it available for mac?
[15:43] <tico96> i use mac os x mountain lion
[15:43] <sunnymolini> petar_ have you reviewed the help doc? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[15:43] <adib> refit allows better os selection
[15:44] <krababbel> petar_: maybe describe in detail your setup
[15:44] <adib> so first install refit
[15:44] <adib> its essential
[15:44] <tico96> okey, i'll try :)
[15:44] <adib> also
[15:44] <petar_> krababbel, i've tried that, but i can't get my local computers to connect to the net. I've probably missed something
[15:44] <adib> dont launch mac from the grub menu
[15:44] <roy___> excuse me
[15:44] <petar_> I have one ubuntu computer with two NICs. eth0 is connected to the internet (works fine) and I get an ip-adress from my isp. eth1 is connected to a switch to which i have connected a second computer.
[15:45] <tico96> you mean in ubuntu or the refit?
[15:45] <petar_> in /etc/sysctl.conf i have enabled forwarding and one second thing.
[15:45] <roy___> one last question though is there a default root password for ubuntu, cause i'd like to copy files to usb
[15:45] <LjL> !root | roy___
[15:45] <frnk> hello, back again: my pastebin is here: http://pastebin.com/wLCLX5wx
[15:45] <petar_> and rp_filter (sysctl.conf)
[15:45] <adib> uhh tico96 i suggest you do some research on ubuntu first, seems like you barely did
[15:46] <krababbel> petar_: configure ip address for eth1 and use that as gateway on the second pc
[15:46] <petar_> krababbel, how do i configure ip address for eth1?
[15:46] <krababbel> petar_: /etc/network/interfaces
[15:46] <tico96> i've used some apps like macfuse and a applikation called efi i think but none of them worked but i'll try refit as os selection, but thanks for the help :)
[15:47] <krababbel> petar_: but again, depending on your setup, you might need to do that in network manager
[15:47] <roy___> ubottu: ah right, could you tell me how i can figure out which /dev node is my usb stick connected to ?
[15:47] <tico96> i've been using ubuntu before on pc but not mac :P
[15:47] <petar_> krababbel, my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this:
[15:47] <petar_> iface eth1 inet static
[15:47] <petar_> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:47] <adib> then you should know what grub is tico96
[15:47] <petar_> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:47] <petar_> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:47] <FloodBot1> petar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <tico96> i've heard the name grub but i never noticed it :P
[15:47] <tico96> before*
[15:48] <frnk> @jrib: http://pastebin.com/wLCLX5wx
[15:48] <tico96> anyway do you recommend me to use 32-bit or 64-bit
[15:48] <tico96> ?
[15:48] <adib> what is your mac?
[15:48] <krababbel> petar_: then you need NAT, look at the link you got, section 4.5
[15:49] <tico96> macbook pro 13 inch mountain lion intel i5
[15:49] <tico96> the latest
[15:49] <jrib> frnk: you're on hardy (8.04), and you've enabled a repository meant for precise (12.04).  This isn't supported and you've likely broken your system if you've ran updates with it
[15:49] <jrib> frnk: you also have a debian repository there which I don't know if you've ever used
[15:50] <frnk> can i downgrade again (it was just php)
[15:50] <petar_> krababbel, ah, thats what i've been using shorewall for. To simplify NAT and masquerading configuration.
[15:50] <adib> tico96: should be 64 bit,
[15:50] <tico96> ok :P
[15:50] <tico96> :)
[15:50] <jrib> frnk: "it was just php" means?
[15:50] <krababbel> petar_: yes, your ISP won't route your internal ip addresses, so you need NAT
[15:51] <frnk> concerning the last line in sources-list, I think the only thing I ran was apt-get upgrade, apt-get install php
[15:51] <jrib> frnk: upgrade would try to upgrade many many packages
[15:52] <frnk> hm, what do you recommnend? can I upgrade everything to one version, like 12.04?
[15:53] <jrib> frnk: you can try. If it's troublesome, just do a fresh install of 12.04 and restore your back-ups
[15:53] <petar_> krababbel, precisely. And I've configured shorewall in a way I think it should work (shorewall configures ip-tables for me). Therefore i guess I have NAT
[15:53] <jrib> frnk: (and don't mix repositories not meant for your ubuntu version)
[15:53] <krababbel> petar_: you can do nat using iptables
[15:54] <petar_> krababbel, yes but ip-tables is complicated. Thats why I chose to do it with shorewall, which in turn configures ip-tables.
[15:54] <frnk> thanks , i didnt know that (so, there should have been the word 'hardy' everywhere?)
[15:54] <adib> zykotick9: you told me to tell you which video card i use, i did and you ignored me :(
[15:54] <tico96> adib: i've looked for info about grub and... you ment that i should disable mac right?
[15:54] <Maverick_> well, hi all....
[15:55] <adib> nvm tico96
[15:55] <tico96> adib: ok
[15:55] <tico96> adib: bye and thanks :)
[15:56] <Maverick_> somebody could help me?
[15:56] <krababbel> petar_: NAT is just one command in iptables
[15:56] <adib> depends Maverick_
[15:56] <frnk> so, i understand, that upgrading _everything_ now to 12.04 wont work easyly (kernel upgrade necessary?) and I better prepare for setting up everything clean and new?
[15:56] <zykotick9> !ask | Maverick_
[15:56] <petar_> krababbel, oh okey. I'll look it up
[15:56] <Maverick_> i've just installed xchat in my ubuntu 10.10 and i want to connect to webchat.freenode.net. how to set it up?
[15:56] <frnk> how would I do 'upgrade everything' anyway?  apt-get update ???
[15:57] <zykotick9> !10.10 | Maverick_
[15:57] <safeith> I have problem with b43 firmware in ubuntu 12.04 , when i use it my bluetooth stop working
[15:57] <roy___> i'm unable to mount vfat filesystem or something .. someone can help me out ?
[15:58] <krababbel> petar_: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE I believe that should enable NAT
[15:58] <sunnymolini> frnk, that woudl be sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:58] <mewt> when i ty to run a desktop launcher i get "[Desktop: command not found". I'm sure my problem is simple, but google isnt helping :( anyone know the answer
[15:58] <ubsrv> hi people, just one question: Why can't I change the machine's hostname? I run 'hostname newhostname.domain.com' and once I reboot I always get 'newhostname' (without .domain.com) again
[15:58] <zykotick9> !hostname | ubsrv
[15:59] <zykotick9> ubsrv: carefully follow above - or sudo WILL break
[15:59] <Jan_> I am installing Ubuntu Server in VMware, and i would like to know what LVM is
[15:59] <Jan_> What is the advantage of LVM?
[15:59] <petar_> krababbel, tried to run that command to enable NAT, but it doesn't work :/
[15:59] <ubsrv> thanx a lot zykotick9
[16:00] <frnk> apt-get upgrade fails with the same 'unmet dependencies' error, and recommends 'apt-get -f install'
[16:00] <Maverick_> so, is it better for me to upgrade my ubuntu first?
[16:00] <krababbel> petar_: this is more of a #networking question, but can you ping both router interfaces from you second PC?
[16:00] <adib> im on an macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011 with ubuntu 12.04, if i connect an second screen the resolution is not what it is supposed to be and i cant change it normally, trough googling i found out i had to edit xorg.conf, but someone in this channel told me to not to and to upgrade graphics card driver, which is Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3. anyone can help me update/install the driver?
[16:00] <zykotick9> Maverick_: 10.10 is done/unsupported - so yes.  upgrade to, or fresh install, a supported version.
[16:00] <frnk> but that command will remove A LOT of things... how is the chance that i'm stable afterwards and can reinstall apache etc?
[16:01] <petar_> if i try to ping eth1 (local) from my other pc (unix laptop) i get no answer.
[16:01] <petar_> the eth0 interface (internet) is working since im using it now.
[16:01] <Maverick_> zykotick9: what's your suggestion after that? i do really new in setting up a IRC service :)
[16:02] <TJ-> Jan_: Logical Volume Management. A way to manage the space on hard disks efficiently and flexibly without being constrained by fixed partitions as with msdos/GPT partition labels. With LVM you can allocate multiple physical disk to one Volume Group, and can create as many Logical Volumes (containing file-systems) as needed, and resize them easily (allocate new space if they get full for example)
[16:02] <Jan_> And do i need page files when running ubuntu on top of esxi?
[16:02] <Jan_> like the swap partition
[16:03] <petar_> krababbel, if we switch to another problem. I've tried to install and configure dhcpd3-server. But without luck, it doesn't start and just tells me to look in the system log for clues. But I can't find anything there.
[16:03] <zykotick9> Maverick_: webchat.freenode.net, isn't that the web interface?
[16:03] <frnk> can someone tell, what this means"
[16:03] <frnk> http://pastebin.com/dVTBvJWY
[16:04] <Maverick_> zykotick9: yes. i visited it an hour ago after my friend invited me. is it unable to set up in IRC service?
[16:04] <petar_> actually i did find something i the syslog.
[16:04] <iceroot> what is the correct package to open a bug against resume from suspend?
[16:04] <frnk> what lines are supposed to be in sources.list for 12.04 then?
[16:05] <zykotick9> Maverick_: do you just want to start a channel on freenode or run an IRC server on your computer?
[16:05] <TJ-> iceroot: "linux" (the kernel)
[16:05] <roy___> if /lib/modules is empty is it possible to mount usb devices ?
[16:05] <TJ-> iceroot: You should find log entries in /var/log/kern.log at the time of the suspend reporting which module(s) failed to suspend
[16:05] <iceroot> frnk: http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/sources.list
[16:05] <zykotick9> frnk: i'd say you have a broken system, if libc6 is the issue...
[16:06] <satya> frnk: http://pastebin.com/uuACmDgs
[16:06] <Maverick_> zykotick9: I want to run it on IRC if it's possible.
[16:06] <Jan_> Is there a way to see how much the swap partition is being used?
[16:06] <iceroot> TJ-: thank you, its more of "the time is not automaticly set to the current value when came back from suspend" so i guess something should trigger ntp or something like that
[16:06] <TJ-> roy___: If the running kernel's modules aren't available, and the device needs a device driver that is in a loadable module, then no the device won't work
[16:06] <frnk> and apt-get -f install, wont fix that broken system?
[16:06] <krababbel> petar_: noone here can see what you saw, so if you got problems with some package, pastebin the error, and  your config, so someone can help
[16:06] <TJ-> iceroot: Sounds like its not restoring from the hardware RTC ... is the RTC battery OK?
[16:07] <zykotick9> Maverick_: sorry i can't help you - you need to be more clear what you want to do.  best of luck (don't reply to me further, i won't see it)
[16:07] <iceroot> TJ-: its restoring but it will take up to 60 seconds
[16:07] <Maverick_> zykotick9: i got difficulties accessing it through my browser coz i have unstable internet connection.
[16:07] <roy___> TJ-: and apparently there's no internet connection either in just the terminal
[16:07] <TJ-> iceroot: is the RTC on a non-standard bus or I2C that forces a wait, I wonder?
[16:07] <iceroot> TJ-: let me correct that, the time-applet in the panel needs up to 60 seconds
[16:07] <petar_> krababbel, http://pastebin.com/z34KQwvU this is the error i get in the syslog
[16:08] <iceroot> TJ-: "date" itself is fine directly after suspend
[16:08] <TJ-> iceroot: So, not a kernel issue as such, more a user-space application getting confused
[16:08] <TJ-> iceroot: in that case post the bug report against the applet's package
[16:08] <iceroot> TJ-: but i dont think the applet knows its back from suspend so there should be something trigger it
[16:08] <krababbel> petar_: looks like it is configured to ignore eth1, so read the manual of dhcp3 to enable
[16:09] <Jan_> And can i modify the size of the swap partition after the instalation?
[16:09] <TJ-> iceroot: With suspend... all user-space processes are frozen - they don't really know they've stopped (but a time-based app might notice a big jump since it last checked and get confused)
[16:09] <TJ-> Jan_: If you put swap in an LVM LV, yes
[16:09] <Jan_> i've selected lvm so i think it will make a swap itself right?
[16:09] <Jan_> did not had an option
[16:10] <iceroot> TJ-: its resyncing fine but only after up to 60 seconds because that is the default to check again the time if it is still sync, so the kernel is telling the userland we are back from suspend? is there nothing between that? (dbus or something like that)
[16:10] <TJ-> roy___: Sounds like that system has somehow started into an incompletely installed environment. /lib/modules/ should contains a directory for each installed kernel containing the modules, symbols, aliases etc.
[16:10] <vman> Jan, you can also add a swap file
[16:10] <adib> im on an macbook 8.1 mid/late 2011 with ubuntu 12.04, if i connect an second screen the resolution is not what it is supposed to be and i cant change it normally, trough googling i found out i had to edit xorg.conf, but someone in this channel told me to not to and to upgrade graphics card driver, which is Intel HD Graphics 3000 with 384MB of DDR3. anyone can help me update/install the driver?
[16:10] <Jan_> ok will try it out
[16:11] <petar_> krababbel, http://pastebin.com/74rDpq70 my /etc/default/dhcp3-server config file. i've lised eth1 there
[16:11] <TJ-> iceroot: I'm not too familiar with the intricacies of the applet
[16:11] <roy___> TJ-: guess i'm out of options here
[16:11] <krababbel> petar_: sorry, I don't know dhcp3 server
[16:11] <iceroot> TJ-: no problem, i will report it against the applet and i guess someone will change the affecting package if needed
[16:11] <petar_> krababbel, okey, thanks anyway :)
[16:11] <roy___> TJ-: the files are there but i won't ever be able to put them on my usb stick
[16:11] <CarlFK> "no google drive for linux"  http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/drive/j_SmC6bMsEo
[16:12] <krababbel> petar_: the isc-dhcp server should work, as well as dnsmasq, which is dns proxy and dhcp server in one package
[16:12] <TJ-> adib: The installed driver will be the one shipped with the kernel for modesetting, and with Xorg for X. I'd think it's an issue with the 2nd display not correctly reporting its EDID to the driver. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log that will spell out what the driver found
[16:12] <adib> uhhm TJ- im kinda new to those things, mind explaining further?
[16:12] <TJ-> roy___: "usb_storage" is the module used to handle USB media storage devices
[16:13] <roy___> TJ-: as i can't get back in gnome .. and no internet means i won't be able to install modules
[16:13] <frnk> is there any possibility to force-install "apt-get install zip", even on my broken system? as zip wont have to many dependencies anyway?
[16:13] <petar_> krababbel, okey, do you have experience with those?
[16:13] <TJ-> adib: EDID is Extended Display Interface Data (or somesuch!) and it is a data structure from the monitor to the graphics device telling it all the valid modes and timing of signals it can accept. Sometimes that is not correct or corrupted and confuses the driver.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> frnk: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a     Thanks
[16:14] <TJ-> roy___: I'm a bit lost as to what the origins of your issue are! Can you explain the background for me please?
[16:15] <adib> okay TJ-  what should i find in /var/log/xorg.o.log? could you give me a example on how the line should look like?
[16:16] <frnk> yep, its here: http://pastebin.com/aQjfE2CF
[16:16] <adib> or should i post the whole log to pastebin?
[16:16] <CarlFK> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu   "Download the Insync.tar.gz via this link"  Is there a PPA with this?
[16:16] <roy___> TJ-: i shutdown my laptop with the power button ... then i got all kinds of errors trying to boot, so i boot in recovery mode and ran fsck in a root terminal .. it fixed a bunch of errors .. after which i could boot normally, but i get an error about graphics configuration , then it drops back to terminal mode
[16:16] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: re:frnk after mixing repos, that's not going to give an accurate picture
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: oh yeah
[16:17] <TJ-> roy___: Ahhhh! thank you. Let me (and others) think about it (my head is in a spin right now with issues locally!)
[16:17] <frnk> thanks,
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: you are using Hardy, you have changed your repos to Precise (for some reason and is unsupported)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> frnk: I suggest you reinstall with Precise.
[16:18] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: +1 frnk
[16:18] <roy___> TJ-: there are some files on there i would like to copy to usb , so i could reinstall ubuntu
[16:18] <roy___> TJ-: Sure ...
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> frnk: that command wil import the key you missed but what you are doing is not advised or supported and will make a massive mwess of your OS
[16:19] <TJ-> roy___: OK, I get what you're after now. It sounds as if during recovery of the file-system some of the files that had been damaged include some key system files.
[16:19] <krababbel> petar_: the isc package is easy, just comment out the lines you need in the provided config
[16:20] <frnk> ok, I'll reinstall ... on one of the next nights!!   .. but still: can I somehow forceinstall ZIP?
[16:20] <zykotick9> frnk: with a broken package system, i highly doubt it.
[16:20] <roy___> TJ-: so i assume there's not much i can do right ?
[16:20] <TJ-> roy___:  Does this report information about the module? "modinfo usb_storage"  .  I tried to install an antivirus (bitdefender for unices) but it goes crashes everytime i started the AV. what's wrong with this?
[16:21] <zykotick9> !virus | sudosuka
[16:21] <DX099> hello, How do I properly remove old kernels when they won't be listed by any of my packages managers ?
[16:21] <chemaher76> Hi
[16:21] <frnk> so thanks to everyone
[16:21] <chemaher76> I have a problem with my laptop and play Spiral Knights on Linux. Overheats and turns itself off in windows 7 fails, idk if it is due to the configuration of the notebook's power or my distro Xubuntu.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> frnk: you could download the deb and extract it and copy the data to the right places....
[16:21] <jrib> frnk: try just using dpkg if you *really* need zip just now
[16:21] <adib> TJ-: what should i look for in xorg.o.log? or should i paste it all to pastebin?
[16:21] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: nice!
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: messy, but works
[16:21] <TJ-> roy___: I've reinstalled Ubuntu in that same situation using what's called a "chroot" but that does really require some expertise to know what to do with it
[16:22] <chemaher76> econimizador any energy or optimizer for xubuntu??
[16:22] <roy___> TJ-: it says modinfo could not open /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic-pae/modules.dep
[16:22] <TJ-> adib: Look for the entries that show the external monitor has been found, and whether it provides a valid EDID, and what modelines it claims to support, and finally, what mode the driver chose to use on that display (and yes, pastebin it)
[16:23] <TJ-> roy___: OK, so that confirms what I thought earlier. If we can regain network than you could try reinstalling just the affected packages
[16:23] <zykotick9> frnk: jrib might have given you a much easier solution
[16:23] <TJ-> roy___: Do you get any interfaces other than "lo" listed if you do "ifconfig" ?
[16:23] <sudosuka> ubottu: I connected my netbook to a PC with win7 in my home. Is there any better choice of AV for my ubuntu?
[16:24] <roy___> TJ-: yes eth0
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> sudosuka, ubottu is a bot look at the link it gave you.
[16:25] <php> hi
[16:25] <php> anyone??
[16:25] <php> anyone
[16:25] <php> ???
[16:25] <php> need help
[16:25] <DJones> !anyone | php
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> php, This works in that you ask your question for responses.
[16:25] <TJ-> roy___: That's good news... it means the kernel can work with that device. Is there a network cable plugged in, and do you connect to a typical home router that gives out IP addresses using DHCP?
[16:26] <php> i am facing a issue when istalling my CCNA simulator
[16:26] <php> i am getting the beloq message
[16:26] <sudosuka> wilee-nilee :) I'm newbie so i didn't know it before. thx for informing me.
[16:26] <php> below*
[16:26] <php> Archive:  /media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe [/media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe]   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on   the last disk(s) of this archive. zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /media/MCGRAWHILL/Install/MH_Netsim.exe or
[16:27] <roy___> TJ-: well i got a network cable plugged in on this computer i'm on now, the laptop with ubuntu installed has also WIFI which i used
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> sudosuka, hehe easy mistake. ;)
[16:27] <DX099> hello, How do I properly remove old kernels when they won't be listed by any of my packages managers ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> php: you need to mount the device executable so you can run the apps on it
[16:27] <roy___> TJ-: i mean thats what ubuntu automatically detected when everything still worked
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> DX099: can you give a pastebin of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image      Thanks
[16:28] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that's good to know
[16:28] <roy___> TJ-: i could also try plugging in a network cable but then i won't have internet connection on this computer i am now ... so before i do i guess i should know what to do next . if it works that is ...
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> DX099, you can remove them from synaptic if you install it but ubuntu tweak a 3rd party app has a janitor that does it nicely.
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> or from a terminal.
[16:28] <TJ-> roy___: It might just be a case of starting that interface... try this "sudo ifup eth0"
[16:29] <TJ-> roy___: Then recheck with "ifconfig" after a few moments to see if eth0 has been assigned an IP address
[16:29] <DX099> wilee-nilee, when I said any of my packages managers, I was thinking about Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, or even dpkg
[16:29] <php> Action:   how to mount the application
[16:29] <roy___> TJ-: it says .. Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> DX099, should be synaptic you just have to know how to look.
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> aptitude is deprecated I would not use it
[16:31] <ratcheer> Yes. I prefer aptitude, but I had to learn apt-get.
[16:31] <TJ-> roy___: OK, we do it another way then "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> php:  you don't, its a Windows application.  and "mount" is not the correct word.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> !wine | php
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> php:  you use wine.
[16:31] <TJ-> roy___: check with "ifconfig" after a few seconds
[16:32] <DX099> wilee-nilee, handles dependencies too well. And no, even looking locally, it's not in Synaptic, though grub clearly list them.
[16:32] <DX099> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191150/
[16:32] <testi> How do you disable vsync in the composition engine of gnome-shell?
[16:32] <roy___> TJ-: no errors, but also ifconfig shows no ip adress assigned
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> DX099: gimme a sec
[16:34] <TJ-> roy___: OK... lets dig some more. What *should* have happened is that the DHCP client on that PC should have been told to attach to eth0 and request a DHCP lease... so we'll check whether the DHCP client has been damaged by the disk corruption
[16:34] <roy___> TJ-: allright
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> DX099: http://pastie.org/4680820    will help clear up
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> DX099: will leave you 2 kernels
[16:37] <TJ-> roy___: researching what you need to do here, will be back shortly
[16:37] <roy___> TJ-: sure thanks
[16:37] <krababbel> q/qui
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, hehe some upgrade left behind kernels. ;)'
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: yeah annoying stuff but easy to clean
[16:40] <DX099> ActionParsnip, I whished so  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191167/
[16:41] <rfernandes> my laptop does not come back from suspend mode
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I saved that command to find them, hehe.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> DX099: yes it will regenerate grub each time, removing the old kernels stuff
[16:41] <DX099> ActionParsnip, this is  `update-grub' I ran AFTER your clean up command
[16:42] <DX099> sorry didn't put command line
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> DX099: just run each command in turn, the commands are wordwrapped so I left a blank line between each one
[16:47] <DX099> ActionParsnip, I put a ';' between each of them before running the whole... will it change anything ?
[16:47] <protoCall7> Does anyone know if these log messages are normal or not: Sep  7 08:02:33 rarch-002 sshd[5335]: Connection closed by <IP_ADDRESS> [preauth]
[16:48] <DX099> ActionParsnip, besides, your commands target kernel > 3.0 , and the old kernels stuck on my system are 2.6.x , will it work ?
[16:50] <TJ-> roy___: I accidentally disconnected myself whilst testing that command! sorry
[16:50] <TJ-> roy___: Let's try requesting an IP manually and enabling verbose reporting... "sudo dhclient -v eth0"
[16:50] <yondering> I have a question.. I'm using a slightly older PC with xubuntu 12.04 installed.  It's got an Asus Xonar d1 sound card..  alsamixer sees the sound card just fine when I check it from a terminal, but it appears pulseaudio does not 'see' the card.  any ideas?
[16:50] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[16:51] <roy___> TJ-: it returns a number of lines still busy , all say DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 and then interval a couple of different numbers
[16:52] <roy___> TJ-: its still going
[16:54] <TJ-> roy___: OK ... it's is expecting replies and not getting any. That suggests the device on the other end of the cable isn't replying
[16:54] <roy___> TJ-: mind you there is no cable plugged in ... only wifi
[16:55] <roy___> TJ-: i could try connection the cable i have on this computer .. to the laptop see if that works ?
[16:56] <ben007> #list
[16:58] <roy___> TJ-: "connecting"
[16:58] <sokel> roy___: As far as I can tell, it's the client end. Try a cable. I never use wireless and one PC faces that same issue. A complete power down and removal of ALL power sources for a few minutes fixes it.
[16:58] <TJ-> roy___: It's possible that "eth0" really represents a wireless connection (which would usually be wlan0) which might explain why it can't contact the other end. Let's check. do "iwconfig" and see if eth0 is reported as a wireless connection
[16:58] <roy___> TJ-: eth0 says no wireless extensions
[16:59] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that's good then, it is wired so we're not wasting our time
[16:59] <sokel> Exactly. It never should. If a system ever reports eth0 as wireless, something is WRONG with the system.
[16:59] <roy___> TJ-: i could try the cable if it works ... i could get back here on my ipad and figure stuff out
[16:59] <TJ-> sokel: Not at all; some wifi drivers end up presenting as a typical wired device
[16:59] <TJ-> roy___: If you could test the cable to prove it, that would be great
[17:00] <roy___> alright bb
[17:00] <sokel> Funny. Never had that happen and if it does, that's a problem with udev.
[17:00] <roy___> brb
[17:02] <Gycklarn> I want to set a custom prompt in my terminal. It's worked great earlier, when I used Putty on a Windows machine, but when I use a Ubuntu environment the characters become scrambled where the color of the text changes. Anyone know why? It probably hass something to do with character encoding, but I can't for the life of me figure out what the cause is.
[17:03] <Gycklarn> It DOES work when I use screen with UTF-8 encoding
[17:06] <nesh> Hi, Im trying to develop an app in python that needs knowledge of what user types in any application and it should also be able to insert the words where required .. can you suggest me an approach?
[17:11] <NKjoep> hi all
[17:12] <protoCall7> Hi
[17:13] <Gycklarn> Regarding my problem mentioned above, this is how the two variants look
[17:14] <Gycklarn> http://i.imgur.com/P0dWe.png
[17:14] <Gycklarn> http://i.imgur.com/Avm7W.png
[17:14] <Gycklarn> Any help is appreciated.
[17:16] <Mir09> Gycklarn, what is the problem?
[17:17] <madcow_2> I'm after some help with init.d/upstart - I've got a ruby application I want running all the time, but to start it i need to execute the command in a terminal.. i just want to run it all the time and upstart/init.d confuses the shit out of me - ideas? I've only got terminal access.. the command i need to run is "compass watch"
[17:17] <Gycklarn> Mir09, Well, when I use a terminal with my custom prompt, I get all those scrambled characters
[17:17] <Gycklarn> the "correct" variant is from when I ssh into a server and use screen -U
[17:18] <Nordom> I am a ubuntu nub (started today) having problems with my mouse http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/using-the-cyborg-r-a-t-7-with-ubuntu/ shows me how to do it but when I type sudo gedit for the xorg.conf nothing happens
[17:18] <Gycklarn> And I want to know how to fix this without using screen
[17:18] <roy___> eeehm
[17:18] <Nordom> can someone walk me through it? you type the sudo commands into alt+f2 commands no?
[17:18] <roy___> yeah it worked
[17:19] <roy___> i'm on irr
[17:19] <roy___> im irssi now on the laptop
[17:19] <Mir09> madcow_2, /init.d made the script work on boot
[17:19] <roy___> TJ gone ?
[17:19] <TJ-> roy___: Nice one! was it the cable then?
[17:19] <MB_wrk> Okay, so I installed LAMP. And now installed phpmyadmin. I can get to the server, but server/phpmyadmin fails
[17:19] <roy___> TJ-: Ah hey, ... yeah !
[17:20] <TJ-> roy___: I've learned through wasting time always check the cables first :p
[17:20] <Mir09> Gycklarn, have you the corect language support install?
[17:21] <roy___> TJ-: so now i should be able to install those modules required for reading the usb stick ?
[17:21] <roy___> TJ-: or even WIFI
[17:21] <Nordom> having problems with my mouse http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/using-the-cyborg-r-a-t-7-with-ubuntu/ shows me how to do it but when I type sudo gedit for the xorg.conf nothing happens
[17:21] <Gycklarn> No idea, honestly.
[17:21] <TJ-> roy___: OK, let's see what we can do to get it sorted. First I think we'll attempt to install the pastebinit program so you can auto-pastebin output of commands for me to read. That'll save a lot of time and confusion. It'll also allow us to test if the package installer system is damaged or not
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: I'm hoping we can fix the while thing without you needing to do a reinstall
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: try this: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[17:22] <roy___> TJ-: alright .. i can open other terminals besides this one right ?
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: Sure
[17:22] <DX099> ActionParsnip, hmm, so no clue at all ?
[17:22] <TJ-> roy___: Use Alt+Ctrl+F1 through F6 I think should all have terminals on them... check
[17:23] <Mir09> Gycklarn, because seems to be your terminal not write just some character
[17:24] <Gycklarn> Nordom, define "nothing". Nothing at all? To error message?
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: sudo apt-get install pastebin , you said ?  ... i don't know how to scroll back text in this client ;(
[17:24] <TJ-> roy___: try this: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: ok, i did that
[17:24] <roy___> TJ-: its installed now
[17:25] <fsgdfgdf>  /budus macro xdcc d 21
[17:25] <afloater> I installed 12.04. When I connect to a dhcp server, it changes my nameserver in resolv.conf to localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>). Anyone know why?
[17:25] <Mir09> Gycklarn, read this.. maybe help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/87227/switch-encoding-of-terminal-with-a-command
[17:25] <TJ-> roy___: OK, that tells us we can probably trust the packge-manager too
[17:26] <Gycklarn> Mir09, I'll take a look, thanks
[17:26] <roy___> TJ-: yeah i used the packet manager to install irssi too
[17:26] <TJ-> roy___: let's get a report of what kernel packages are installed that may need reinstalling: "dpkg-query -l 'linux-*' | pastebinit"
[17:26] <Mir09> Gycklarn, :)
[17:26] <Gycklarn> Nordom, Uh, obviously I meant "No error message?"
[17:27] <paulus68> #acer-liquid
[17:27] <Mir09> Gycklarn, because I think your is a encoding character problem
[17:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think you missed a dash in the end there
[17:29] <krababbel> afloater: isn't that a caching dns on your lan?
[17:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: where?
[17:29] <tomreyn> pastebinit -
[17:29] <tomreyn> that's unless pastebinit now takes input from stdin by default
[17:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: why? pastebinit reads stdin by default
[17:30] <tomreyn> sorry then, i think it didn't in the past
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: for some reason i can't type the bar character it does a > instead
[17:30] <TJ-> tomreyn: if it didn't used to, that would be before I started using it :p
[17:30] <tomreyn> could be, it's been a while
[17:30] <TJ-> roy___: That's the keyboard map not quite right ... explore your keyboard for which key it's on :D
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: perhaps the keyboard needs to be reconfigured ?
[17:30] <roy___> TJ-: i don't think its on any key
[17:31] <TJ-> roy___: Usually it moves to the ~# key or similar, sometimes to the `¬ key top-left too
[17:31] <TJ-> roy___: we'll fix the keyboard later... it's not too important right now
[17:32] <roy___> TJ-: ok, .. well its on none of those keys
[17:33] <TJ-> roy___: OK, try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and select the correct languages etc.
[17:33] <TJ-> roy___: If that doesn't work, try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[17:34] <roy___> 62
[17:34] <roy___> OK
[17:34] <BebopSteve> Whenever I open gimp, the toolbox panel's title bars constantly are underneath my top panel in ubuntu 12.04 and it is very frustrating because I cannot move or resize them, how do I fix this?
[17:35] <shihan> if you hold down alt and click on a window, you can drag it that way if that helps?
[17:35] <TJ-> BebopSteve: Press Alt+Space whilst that window has focus, and then choose "Move" and use cursor keys to move it down. It *ought* then to 'remember' the position and not go under the menu-bar in future
[17:37] <BebopSteve> Thanks guys for the quick answers, just saved my life
[17:37] <BebopSteve> Was about to seppuku
[17:37] <roy___> TJ-: not sure what to pick, i'm on a sony vaio laptop
[17:37] <TJ-> roy___: UK keyboard?
[17:37] <unless> Is there a way to save a complete CD with VLC automatically with musica names and so on?
[17:37] <roy___> TJ-: its old like 6 years .. well i live in holland, but i suppose its UK ...
[17:38] <TJ-> roy___: I have one right next to me; let me find out what its set to... which model is it?
[17:38] <BebopSteve> Additional question:  Is there a way to tell gimp to be always on top?  Would make file selection in this folder a lot easier
[17:39] <TJ-> roy___: did you do the "keyboard-configuration" command?
[17:39] <roy___> TJ-: pcg 382M
[17:39] <roy___> TJ-: yeah
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: On my Vaio VGN-FE41Z it has "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[17:40] <roy___> TJ-: ah that is VGN-FZ11E
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: press TAB to move to the OK/Cancel buttons
[17:40] <TJ-> roy___: Then you can select language
[17:40] <roy___> TJ-: ok english uk ?
[17:41] <geekman> pas de francais --'
[17:41] <roy___> TJ-: english uk international with dead keys ..
[17:41] <fission6> i have a dual boot desktop, ubuntu and windows - i am going to donate the machine but i'd like to completely erase all data, any recommendations
[17:41] <TJ-> roy___: If you've got the Sterling sign for shifted 3 (or Euro)
[17:42] <roy___> TJ-: oh yes, i do
[17:42] <roy___> TJ-: with dead keys ?
[17:42] <TJ-> roy___: Mine was set to "English (UK)"
[17:43] <roy___> TJ-: |||
[17:43] <roy___> TJ-: yeah its back :)
[17:43] <TJ-> roy___: Yay!
[17:43] <TJ-> roy___: So, back to "dpkg-query -l 'linux-*' | pastebinit"
[17:44] <Gycklarn> fission6, shred
[17:45] <BebopSteve> Nevermind, figured it out.  :)
[17:45] <roy___> TJ-: ok i did
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: did you clear up the kernels ok?
[17:45] <TJ-> roy___: It'll show you a URL, you need to provide that to me now
[17:45] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: We're about to. I'm just finding out what linux packages are installed :)
[17:46] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191265/
[17:46] <TJ-> roy___: thanks
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: if you use:  sudo dpkg -P     the packages with the 'rc' at the start it will get rid of them
[17:46] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: Dont' want to remove anything!
[17:46] <TJ-> roy___: OK, so you're got a 32-bit PAE kernel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: why, its old configs, they do nothing for you
[17:47] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[17:47] <truexfan81> does atheros wireless network adapter ar24x  work with 12.04? or are proprietary drivers needed?
[17:47] <roy___> TJ-: PAE is just regular ?
[17:48] <TJ-> roy___: Now we'll reinstall the kernel packages using "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-headers-3.2.0-23 linux-firmware  linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae"
[17:49] <TJ-> roy___: PAE is Processor Address Extensions - it allows a 32-bit system to address more than 4GB of address space in total, although each application is restricted to 4GB itself
[17:50] <TJ-> roy___: In another terminal whilst that installer is running can you pastebin me this: "lspci -nn | pastebinit"
[17:50] <roy___> TJ-: ok
[17:52] <roy___> TJ-: could you give me that 1st line again .. i think i got something wrong
[17:52] <alecb> I just got a thinkpad t430 and I'm having some wireless issues. when I boot, I'm able to connect to a wireless network, but after ~10 mins, I lose my connection (and it's sort of shaky for those 10 mins as well) and I can't reconnect to any network after that. however, if I reboot, I connect fine. I also am able to connect well to my personal wifi network when I'm at home. the public networks that don't work well in ubuntu _do_ work i
[17:53] <alecb> any ideas?
[17:53] <roy___> TJ-: ow nevermind i know how to scroll this page now ;)
[17:54] <TJ-> roy___: You'll have to teach me how :D
[17:59] <tomreyn> alecb: sounds like you may be missing some firmware blob
[17:59] <roy___> TJ-: ok done & done, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191291/
[18:00] <TJ-> roy___: OK, it has an Nvidia video chipset. So as you reported video failed lets reinstall the nvidia driver (I assume you were using the proprietary Nvidia driver previously) ?
[18:00] <roy___> TJ-: i have no idea, i just installed ubuntu and it all worked automatically
[18:00] <Sabari1> Hi
[18:01] <TJ-> roy___: Usually you'd know if you'd chosen to install the proprietary drivers since it asks you if you want them
[18:01] <Sabari1> I have 12.04 installed in my Desktop
[18:01] <TJ-> roy___: We'd best check: "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*' | pastebinit"
[18:01] <roy___> TJ-: i'm not sure .. if it did i can't remember
[18:01] <roy___> ok
[18:01] <Sabari1> Whenever I try to copy files to my USB Hard  disl
[18:01] <Sabari1> The hard disk is frequently getting unmounted
[18:01] <alecb> tomreyn: not all that hardware-versed -- what's a firmware blob/how would I fix that?
[18:02] <Sabari1> and getting remounted
[18:02] <TJ-> Sabari1: Often that happens if the USB device is being starved of power under load. Verify that the HDD is getting sufficient power from its external power source
[18:02] <luftikuss> How can I make Nautilus on an Ubuntu 12.04 Live CD show the properties of the current file?
[18:03] <Sabari1> It is getting it via USB, I tried Changing cables but no luck
[18:03] <TJ-> luftikuss: right-click the file and choose Properties
[18:03] <Ihsan_> Hi
[18:03] <Sabari1> same cable and hard disk working fine in other ubuntu desktops
[18:03] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191302/
[18:03] <Sabari1> ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
[18:03] <TJ-> Sabari1: That may be the problem... the port on the PC might not be able to provide as much power as it needs
[18:03] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191302/
[18:03] <Ihsan_> I need help on my fresh installed Ubuntu, am I on the right place?
[18:03] <Sabari1> This is the error that I see
[18:03] <luftikuss> TJ-: Yes, this works. Thank you very much for your help.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: yes, ask away
[18:04] <pozop> Ihsan_: what's your question?
[18:04] <roy___> ooops
[18:04] <TJ-> roy___: thanks... I'll need some more checks to find out whether the nvidia driver was selected for use... hang on a mo!
[18:04] <roy___> sure
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Sabari1: what format is the partition?
[18:04] <Sabari1> and also this kernel: [27134.892092] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdc]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[18:04] <Sabari1> It is ntfs
[18:04] <tomreyn> alecb: while thre are linux drivers available for many devices, some require a proprietary and closed source portion to operate a device properly or at full performance
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Sabari1: safetly remove the device, try a different USB port
[18:05] <Ihsan_> I was using Windows 7 as my primary OS, I also made a second partition and protected it with Bitlocker, now I deleted Windows 7 OS and installed Ubuntu as my primary OS. I tried to find my second partition, but it's invisible, I cant find it anywhere. Is it because bitlocker? How can I get it back without damaging the sensitive data in it?
[18:05] <alecb> tomreyn: oh, ok, so I just need to get the proprietary drivers?
[18:05] <alecb> tomreyn: (or should try that?)
[18:05] <Sabari1> Tried all the available ports. No luck
[18:05] <TJ-> roy___: Give me "jockey-text -l | pastebinit"
[18:05] <unless> I am about to ./configure a application install path. Could someone help me to figure a common directory to install applications please? In this case I am installing LAM/MPI.
[18:06] <pozop> Ihsan_: i know nothing about win7 or bitlocker
[18:06] <TJ-> Sabari1: It's a hard one. If it works on other PCs but has this glitch locally, I'd always suspect the USB ports. Do you have any external power you can provide to the disk ?
[18:06] <Ihsan_> well :(
[18:06] <Ihsan_> Does anyone know ?
[18:06] <TJ-> Sabari1: That log entry doesn't give us anything specific to suspect another cause right now
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: do you just want to use the other partition for data storage?
[18:06] <Ihsan_> Yes
[18:06] <hfic> Ihsan_, are you sure the other partition didn't get wiped when you installed ubuntu?
[18:06] <tomreyn> alecb: those firmware blobs are packaged, so you just need to install an additional package if my guess is right. the other option would be that your device is just not fully supported or that the driver needs to be passed a load-time option for the device to operate properly
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: patience child, you won't get a reply that fast
[18:07] <Ihsan_> My school materials are in the second partition, and no itś not wiped
[18:07] <JoaoSantana> Hi ALL
[18:07] <TJ-> Ihsan_: I'd be asking the bitlocker people
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: then use gparted and delete the NTFS partition and reformat it to Ext4 and you can use it as data storage
[18:07] <Ihsan_> Okay thank you :)
[18:07] <roy___> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191310/
[18:07] <Ihsan_> But there are data in it, thats the problem
[18:07] <tomreyn> alecb: there are several submodels of t430 so unless you provide more information i couldn't be more specific.
[18:07] <Ihsan_> I need to get the partition back without damaging
[18:07] <bekks> Ihsan_: You bitlocked a partition and deleted the Win7 OS afterwards? In that case, your data is lost.
[18:08] <Ihsan_> OH
[18:08] <Sabari1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1191311/
[18:08] <Sabari1> Entire log
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: then you may need to ask in ##windows to find out how this can be accessed. Why do you not have a backup of the data?
[18:08] <TJ-> Ihsan_: Google search tells me you can use dislocker: http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/outils/dislocker/download/
[18:08] <hfic> bekks, is this conjecture or fact?
[18:08] <Ihsan_> Yeah I tried that, but I don really understand I get an error
[18:08] <roy___> TJ-: well the usb device is working again in any case
[18:08] <Ihsan_> do you support that also to help me with it?
[18:09] <TJ-> roy___: That's great ... you're using the open-source nvidia driver so that was included in those kernel reinstalls
[18:09] <TJ-> roy___: That's because you've reinstalled the kernel files
[18:09] <Sabari1> TJ : Is this some thing related to this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=145770
[18:09] <pozop> Ihsan_: can you see the partition in gparted or any
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/21580-63-recognize-bitlocker-disk-ubuntu   seems you will need another windows PC to access the data.
[18:10] <pozop> other partitioning program?
[18:10] <Ihsan_> Yes I can see it
[18:10] <alecb> tomreyn: ie, the nic brand/model? windows tells me I have an intel 82579LM
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: its a windows app so you wil need windows help
[18:10] <Ihsan_> I saw the partition, with the same size and it is protected trough TRUESCRYPT
[18:10] <Ihsan_> :)
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Ihsan_: http://superuser.com/questions/31649/will-bitlocker-make-it-impossible-to-read-my-files-from-my-dual-booting-ubuntu-o#31658    may help
[18:10] <tomreyn> alecb: start a terminal window and type this: lsusb | pastebinit