[08:14] <DaSkreech> If that's all you need it for try gprated
[08:14] <DaSkreech> nicolas__: Should be
[08:14] <heinkel_111> DaSkreech: i didn't get reiserfs option?
[08:14] <nicolas__> DaSkreech: seems its invisible
[08:14] <larson9999> gparted
[08:14] <heinkel_111> gparted isn't on the livecd
[08:14] <heinkel_111> qtparted is
[08:14] <DaSkreech> nicolas__: On Right click? The one at the top?
[08:15] <larson9999> gparted is a live cd
[08:15] <larson9999> and is better imo that qtparted
[08:15] <darkkish> ooh nicolas. cool, that how i spell my name :-O not that anyone cares :p
[08:15] <osh_> darkkish: Ok, mount the disks. Let's have a go at it.
[08:15] <heinkel_111> ah..yes, now i understand, there is a live cd distro version of gparted?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !away > maltaethiron
[08:15] <larson9999> heinkel_111: yeah and it's a small download
[08:16] <darkkish> osh_:  can we talk in pm?
[08:16] <larson9999> heinkel_111: well, relatively
[08:16] <heinkel_111> because i know it as a program i installed with adept on my other machine (this one=
[08:16] <heinkel_111> thx
[08:16] <pm> in pm? interesting :P
[08:16] <osh_> darkkish: dunno, did you get my messages? I'm not a registered user.
[08:16] <darkkish> oh
[08:16] <darkkish> probably not
[08:16] <darkkish> its easy to register though O.o
[08:16] <darkkish> /ns register <password>
[08:16] <osh_> darkkish: yeah, but I can't be bothered... ;-)
[08:17] <darkkish> lol >_>
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[08:17] <DaSkreech> There isa kMobiletools
[08:17] <heinkel_111> larson9999: yes gparted looks smoother than qtparted, but i guess it is the same under the lid
[08:18] <adaran> how do i put my laptop into suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk mode?
[08:18] <larson9999> heinkel_111: maybe.  but i had issues with ntfs with qtparted that i didn't have in gparted.  but then again maybe under the hood there were different versions of things
[08:20] <heinkel_111> i think they branched at some point and gparted is more recently updated
[08:20] <heinkel_111> but basically much the same, we don't deal with ntfs, do we?   ;-)
[08:21] <heinkel_111> larson9999:
[08:21] <Aeron> 4/5
[08:22] <larson9999> heinkel_111: when people pay use to, we do. don't we?
[08:23] <heinkel_111> oh well, we do date, but we are not cheap dates then :P
[08:23] <larson9999> lol
[08:24] <bele> adaran: from systray icon you can choose suspend or hibernate
[08:25] <adaran> bele: ah, well, that only suspends without telling me what it really does. i'd like to see S3 working.
[08:25] <zipper> Hmm... apparently my soundcard works fine in firefox, however, i get no sound from any other application. I have 2 soundcards, perhaps i should disable one of them? If so, how is that done?
[08:25] <sans> i don't know if anyone can help me with this, knights, the kde chess client, hangs indefinitately and uses an insane amount of cpu on its third move, I can't use it, anyone got an idea?
[08:25] <adaran> bele: it seems to just power off the monitor, fans are still running and all
[08:33] <marcio> qual o canal do ubuntu brasil?
[08:35] <NickGarvey> what command would I run to check what version of KDE I have?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: apt-cache policy kdebase
[08:36] <gnomefreak> marcio: join #uubntu-br
[08:36] <gnomefreak> oops
[08:36] <gnomefreak> marcio: /j #ubuntu-br
[08:36] <DaSkreech> !br
[08:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:37] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: the kde I have isn't from the repos
[08:37] <gnomefreak> dont matter
[08:37] <DaSkreech> NickGarvey: I just open up some random application and go help -> about KDE
[08:37] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: it will still tell you it will say installed ....
[08:37] <NickGarvey> thank you
[08:37] <NickGarvey> 3.5.4a :)
[08:37] <NickGarvey> thanks
[08:37] <bele> adaran: for my HP laptop there's actually three levels of suspend to choose from, first (suspend) suspends to memory, fans and all are swithed off
[08:37] <Hawkwind> kde-config --version | grep KDE
[08:38] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure why you need a CLI check for a blatantly graphic application
[08:39] <heinkel_111> Hawkwind: if you use Konversation, /sysinfo will provide this output amongst other things
[08:39] <heinkel_111> as example:
[08:39] <Hawkwind> heinkel_111: I don't need the info, and I don't use KDE, at all :)
[08:39] <heinkel_111> oh, carry on then :P
[08:40] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Heh true.  I was just giving another way to check incase he didn't have X working or something :P
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Sysinfo for 'Released': Linux 2.6.15-26-386 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2800+ at 2083 MHz (4171 bogomips), , RAM: 495/503MB, 127 proc's, 1.1d up
[08:41] <DaSkreech> Woah :-)
[08:46] <DaSkreech> waspius: yo
[08:46] <waspius> DaSkreech: hey
[08:47] <sans> does anyone know what the kde base directory is in kubuntu?
[08:48] <sans> i mean in ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <zipper> I have two soundcards in my pc, and i only want to use one of them, since the other one messes things up. How do i disble one of them?
[08:54] <mpc1000> bios?
[08:54] <zipper> i still want to use the second soundcard in windows, so thats not an option
[08:54] <ironfroggy> my laptop has both a touchpad and one of those nubs on the keyboard. when i adjust the pointer acceleration in KDE, however, it only seems to affect the speed of the nub, not the touchpad.
[08:54] <mpc1000> ditch windows 100%
[08:54] <mpc1000> :P
[08:55] <zipper> the thing is, my audigy4 is well supported, while my onboard Realtek ALC882 isn't
[08:55] <zipper> i would, if game developers used openGL instead of directx
[08:55] <Nuked> I have  a problem, when I try to remove an account from kopete it crashes.
[08:55] <mpc1000> get a console
[08:55] <zipper> mpc1000, stop being stupid. If you dont know the answer, the just leave it please
[08:55] <larson9999> only play/buy games that support linux
[08:55] <mpc1000> buddy
[08:55] <mpc1000> relax
[08:56] <zipper> mpc1000, i am actually quite relaxed
[08:56] <mpc1000> right
[08:56] <Nuked> so anyone know why kopete is crashing?
[08:56] <larson9999> not that hard.  if you've played all the linux games, you need a job :)
[08:56] <mpc1000> why don't
[08:56] <mpc1000> you goto google.com
[08:56] <mpc1000> and get your answer
[08:56] <mpc1000> i see it right there
[08:56] <mpc1000> :P
[08:56] <Nuked> mpc1000: you know thats the response the asshats at deban give you
[08:57] <zipper> mpc1000, you don't think i've been to google already? Interesting
[08:57] <Nuked> debian*
[08:57] <trappist> zipper: disable it in your BIOS
[08:57] <mpc1000> worst part about ubuntu is it turned a ton of "linux users" dependant on copy and pasting
[08:57] <zipper> Nuked, it's not a debian thing.  Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[08:59] <Hawkwind> mpc1000: Seriously, chill with the name calling and all please
[08:59] <zipper> mpc1000, i'm glad you tried, thank you. Now, can someone with some real answers give me a hint please?
[08:59] <ironfroggy> it shouldnt be trouble to configure arts to use the specific card you want and not the other one.
[08:59] <trappist> zipper: I had to do this once.  your answer involves invoking asoundconf, but I forget the details.
[08:59] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Possibly in making linux games :)
[08:59] <mulder> hello all
[08:59] <zipper> trappist, thanks, i'll look into that
[08:59] <Kiongku> hi. i need to recompile my kernel if i want to add vesafb.ko module?
[08:59] <trappist> zipper: or, you could look into what driver is being loaded for your soundcard, and blacklist it
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Are you sure it's not already compiled into the kernel ?  Have you tried to modprobe it ?
[09:00] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: modprobe vesafb ?
[09:00] <slicslak> i tried installing kword but when i run it it says: WARNING: Libray files for ".la" not found in paths.
[09:00] <zipper> trappist, i think it's being loaded as an intel card (even though it isnt). Is there an article on the wiki about how to blacklist modules?
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: You can try.  Not sure exactly what you are trying to do
[09:00] <Kiongku> no its not in
[09:00] <mulder> was here this morning, geneo and Intel helped me. Was trying to have my two cpus recognized, a decent 1280x800 reso set up and and being able to download update.
[09:01] <mulder> Anybody can help?
[09:01] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: i recompiled my kernel and now usplash does not work
[09:01] <mpc1000> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D1361091&ei=4RniRPOuK8v8igG0kJnGBg&sig2=nyKThKFv1ReUSDtKm-ek3g
[09:01] <Hawkwind> mulder: Have you installed the linux-686 kernel package ?
[09:01] <Kiongku> Kiongku: i think i miss fb modules
[09:01] <mpc1000> Disabling Onboard Sound without BIOS - Ubuntu Forums
[09:01] <Kiongku> XD
[09:01] <mulder> ah hawkind
[09:01] <Kiongku> oops sorry HAwkwind
[09:01] <mulder> basically i have resintalles the latest kubuntu version
[09:01] <Nuked> dude why is kopete crashing over removing an account?
[09:01] <mulder> so trying to set things up again
[09:01] <dell500> I'm having some major problems formatting my 300gb USB Sata drive for some reason... i've used fdisk and tried formatting with mkdosfs.
[09:02] <Hawkwind> mulder: linux-686 is what you need for HT/SMP processors
[09:02] <zipper> mpc1000, see, you are able to not give jackass answers if you want to. Unfurtunately, that thread didnt do me much good, already read it
[09:02] <mulder> ok...how can I do that Hawkind?
[09:02] <Kiongku> Hawkwind: Do i need fb modules for usplash to work?
[09:02] <Hawkwind> mulder: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:02] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: No idea.  I don't know anything about usplash
[09:02] <Hawkwind> Kiongku: Though it's highly possible just taking a random guess
[09:03] <larson9999> mpc1000 the problem is that people give answers instead of helping people find the answers.  i know because i've been the answer guy at work for years.  years back i started making everyone send me their questions in an email.  i think documentd them and forced people to read the doc before asking me anything.  if they still didn't find the answer and it was in there, i told them it was and to look again.  if they still can't find
[09:03] <larson9999> it, i look myself and amend the doc if it's hard to see or really isn't there :) and then show there where it is.  if it's not there i find the answer and add it.  amazing how that cuts down on my wasted time and makes people more independent.  i think that wouldn't be such a bad idea for help channels.  create they're own docs either with solutions or links to the 'officail' solution the channel endorces and only answer questions
[09:03] <larson9999> that are in the doc and also modify the doc as needed.  just my 2 cents
[09:04] <Nuked> larson9999 then what do you think of the kopete crash issue?
[09:04] <mulder> ok it says E: Couldn't find package linux-686
[09:04] <larson9999> Nuked: i don't konw haven't used it lately.  it doesn't work?
[09:04] <Hawkwind> mulder: Have you enabled all of the sources like multiverse and universe ?
[09:04] <mulder> huh not sure
[09:04] <Nuked> dude it crashes when I try to remove an aol account
[09:05] <DaSkreech> Nuked: Which version?
[09:05] <mpc1000> 3
[09:05] <Hawkwind> !repos > mulder
[09:05] <zipper> larson9999, i get where you are going. Unfortunately, the channels that are run that way end up being populated by a very small handfull of elitists who never gives any help, and just talk smack to people whenever they ask for help. I've seen it happend before, and i doubt it would be no different here
[09:05] <larson9999> Nuked: i should mention i'm the answer gut at work on the mainframe not *nix :)
[09:05] <Nuked> DaSkreech: the latest one provided with kde
[09:05] <Nuked> 3.5.4
[09:05] <larson9999> zipper: perhaps i forget to mention i do it with class and style and not with an asshat on
[09:05] <DaSkreech> 0.12?
[09:05] <Nuked> yeah
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, ofcourse you do, i have no doubt of that. But in time, following thoose guidelines, people will forget about style and class all together
[09:06] <Nuked> 0.12.1
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, at least, thats my experience
[09:06] <zipper> larson9999, ofcourse people need to read the guides, yes, but i don't think being strict about it is the way to go
[09:07] <larson9999> zipper: well at work i'm the only one so it's easy for me to keep that in check.
[09:07] <Nuked> DaSkreech: need the backtrace?
[09:07] <mulder> ok added multiverse...but still not downloading
[09:07] <osh_> larson9999: ekerim, is that you?
[09:07] <k3B> hej all im looking network sources , which net sources we use??
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Nuked: I'm using 0.11 so I'm a bit at a loss for reproducing it
[09:07] <ironfroggy> What do i need to get flash applets to play sound through arts?
[09:07] <mulder> do I have to add multiverse for all of them?
[09:07] <waspius> i have installed crystal window decoration but it is not transparent any help?
[09:08] <Hawkwind> mulder: Yes
[09:08] <Hawkwind> mulder: As well as universe
[09:08] <ironfroggy> zipper: are you still looking for a solution?
[09:08] <mulder> I feel like a carpet whore in a baghdad market
[09:08] <jujimufu> ok
[09:08] <mulder> ok Hawk
[09:08] <mpc1000> zipper, did you check the link i posted?
[09:08] <zipper> ironfroggy, sure... just reading different forums at the moment
[09:08] <Nuked> shit i figured it out
[09:08] <zipper> mpc1000, if you read what i said to you, you would know the answer to that question.
[09:08] <jujimufu> so, I tried enabling 3d acceleration on my i810 (855G) intel card, and I followed the instructions on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[09:08] <larson9999> zipper: i'm not talking about guides.  that's too hard.  i'm talking about directing their searches by pointing them to the specific section of a specific document i think provides the best answer.  like "read the 3rd paragraph on page 7.  if that doesn't work come see me."  not like rftm
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Nuked: I guess you canpastebin the backtrace though Someone will probably jump ono it and help
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> mulder: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:09] <larson9999> osh_: no it isn't
[09:09] <Nuked> DaSkreech: i figured it out using backtrace
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Nuked: Cool what is it?
[09:09] <DaSkreech> It's fixable?
[09:09] <jujimufu> and in the end, it says to make a new file, called /etc/init.d/915resolution and write some stuff on it, but a file like that alreayd exists. Any ideas?
[09:09] <ironfroggy> zipper: have you tried the 'Override device location' option in arts?
[09:09] <Nuked> DaSkreech: the desklist plugin when enabled will not allow you to delete accounts. disable it and do whatever you want
[09:10] <mulder> Thanks Gate K...how do I make a back up of the file?
[09:10] <mpc1000> ease up selectah
[09:10] <zipper> larson9999, yeah i know... and i agree, it's a good solution. However, i've experienced a tendency where people over time go away from the "Read/search for X" to "rtfm noob!" very quickly. I think it need some good management of the ops in the channels to make it work, which i haven't seen done yet. Not saying it's not doable, i just never seen it done in practice.
[09:10] <zipper> ironfroggy, uhm, no
[09:10] <osh_> Could someone not running kde3.5.4 check this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20688
[09:11] <zipper> ironfroggy, i dont even have 'arts'
[09:11] <larson9999> zipper: and i provide step by step screenshots.  so the first time a question is asked by anyone i don't say rtfm.  i give an answer and log it.  but then it becomes an question i answered.  anyway, it works very well for me at work.
[09:11] <Nuked> shit DaSkreech, now I cant do anything!
[09:11] <trappist> zipper: if you have kde you have arts
[09:11] <zipper> larson9999, i have no doubt of that, but irc is quite different from work :)
[09:12] <zipper> "arts: command not found"
[09:12] <zipper> ? =/
[09:12] <trappist> zipper: it doesn't work like that.  artsd (the arts daemon) runs in the background to handle your sound mixing.
[09:12] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20691 someone take a look at this and see what they can make of it
[09:12] <Kr4t05> !grub
[09:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:13] <larson9999> zipper:  yeah, i haven't seen it work too well.  but i think this channel could use ubotu that way and be pretty effective
[09:13] <zipper> trappist, ahh, so i just have to use kmix/alsamixer or whatever in order to "override device location"
[09:13] <mulder> starting to hae headaches again
[09:13] <zipper> ironfroggy, where do i find that "override device location" thing?
[09:13] <mulder> is it gb.archive or uk.archive?
[09:13] <trappist> zipper: I don't know :)  I don't use arts and I disabled my onboard card in the bios
[09:13] <Nuked> it seems that kopete is choking on the desklist plugin
[09:13] <zipper> larson9999, well, doesnt it already do that?
[09:14] <larson9999> zipper: if it's the climate, people come around.  i here people use that method when i'm gone.
[09:14] <pedro> Good night everyone
[09:14] <zipper> trappist, oh okay, thanks anyway
[09:14] <pedro> I recently installed ntfs-3g
[09:14] <bele> osh_: 3.5.2 and kspread doc is created
[09:14] <trappist> zipper: there used to be a quick and easy solution to this - alsaconf - but it's been disabled in the alsa-utils package.  there's a bug open where you can add your gripe to the list of reasons to bring it back until it can be properly replaced.
[09:14] <pedro> everything was all right except that I cannot see well accents and ""
[09:15] <larson9999> zipper to a degree but the thing that's missing is people answer not using ubotu.  i only give answers via the doc i use to record questions and answers.
[09:15] <pedro> My system is in spanish and maybe it is a problem of configuration of fstab
[09:15] <trappist> zipper: the *reason* I don't use arts is that I have an audigy, which does hardware mixing and makes arts unnecessary... once you get your other card out of the way
[09:15] <tdmg> I am trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop.  I want to resize my Windows NTFS partition, make a shared FAT32, then my root and swap.  However, it only seems to allow me to make 3 partitions.  Why is this?  What can I do to get all four partitions?
[09:15] <osh_> bele: and you don't have koffice installed either?
[09:16] <mulder> strange I look in the packages installed and it shows linux-386...is it the 686 one that I need?
[09:16] <Nuked> tdmg: please defragment first
[09:16] <bele> osh_: no koffice installed here
[09:16] <trappist> zipper: also, why do you need that card in windows?  doesn't your audigy work in windows?
[09:16] <tdmg> Nuked.  I did
[09:16] <osh_> bele: Thanks a bunch.
[09:16] <bele> osh_: no prob
[09:16] <zipper> trappist, both work in windows. I would like to use both of them in linux as well, but according to different places on the web, my onboard soundcard isnt (yet) supported in linux
[09:17] <tdmg> I made sure by defraging a second time
[09:17] <Nuked> damn dude maybe you specified one of the partitions to be too big
[09:17] <DaSkreech> tdmg: And don't use primamry partitions
[09:17] <trappist> zipper: I'm terribly curious - how do you benefit from using two sound cards?
[09:17] <zipper> trappist, and thereby it is causing me some problems.... like, firefox can playback sound fine, no problems. Kaffeine and/or vlc is another case though, i get no sound from those
[09:17] <jujimufu> I do update-rc.d 915resolution start 99 defaults but it says " update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S]  (did you forget "." ?) "
[09:17] <jujimufu> what am I supposed to do?
[09:17] <pedro> is there any help?
[09:18] <tdmg> DaSkreech:  How do I go about that?  Which ones are primary or not?  I thought I couldn't specify the file type if it was extended.
[09:18] <mulder> guys how can I do a back up of the file sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup before I edit?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> tdmg: That's false. You can
[09:18] <zipper> trappist, well, i can easily have my amplifier/stereo connected while still having my headphones plugged in. That, and my onboard soundcard doesnt support openAL, which my audigy does (the main reason i got it)
[09:18] <tdmg> okay
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Make it extended and continue doing what ever you need
[09:19] <tdmg> thanks guys/girls! :D
[09:19] <trappist> zipper: can't you do all that with just your audigy?
[09:20] <zipper> trappist, well, i could. But then i would loose the ability to having both my stereo and headphones plugged in at once. I could ofcourse buy a splitter cable, but i don't feel like doing that. Besides, the question is never "why?" it's always "how?" :)
[09:20] <mulder> Anybody who can tell me how to back a file?
[09:20] <waspius> anyone know why i cannot send files in kopete?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> mulder: make a copy of it
[09:21] <trappist> zipper: don't worry, I'm not the "buy different hardware" guy.  I'm curious is all.
[09:21] <trappist> mulder: I'm confused.  your answer was built into the question the first time you asked it - cp file newfile
[09:22] <DaSkreech> trappist: Mee too but maybe he just needed some back up support :)
[09:22] <zipper> trappist, ok... well, the main reason is the openAL support, and then i just kept using the onboard soundcard for my stereo (since creative cards suck bigtime for music anyway), and my audigy for games/headphones
[09:23] <mulder> trappist...I am trying to have my duo cpus recognized for a start...and I can't do it
[09:23] <zipper> waspius, is your router setup to forward the nessesary ports?
[09:23] <trappist> zipper: yeah I need openAL support too for ut2004 - one of the many reasons I keep buying creative cards - but I have a slew of output jacks, each with its own volume control, so I figure I could use headphones and an amp at the same time, though I've never tried
[09:24] <trappist> mulder: what does backing up files have to do with smp support?
[09:24] <waspius> zipper: i am using a network just two pcs..and the problem is i dont even have the option to send a file
[09:24] <zipper> trappist, i think i could do that as well, seeing i have a few outputs as well. But i forgot to mention that my tv is also plugged into my onboard soundcard, which makes things a little tricky
[09:25] <zipper> waspius, that sounds wierd... not sure what could be causing that
[09:25] <mulder> well I need to be able to download linux-686 I guess...and repositories are not allowing me to download anything I suppose
[09:25] <mulder> so to activate the repositories I need to edit a few things
[09:25] <waspius> zipper: long ago with a previous version of kubuntu i had to update kopete..now i cannot find and update...probably no reps or something else is wrong
[09:25] <mulder> as shown here http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[09:26] <zipper> waspius, if you're running 6.06, my guess is that you're somewhat up-to-date
[09:27] <heinkel_111> i have installed kubuntu on a machine witout available network
[09:27] <heinkel_111> and now i am about to network it
[09:27] <waspius> zipper: kopete is 3.5.2
[09:27] <waspius> zipper: sorry 0.11.1
[09:27] <heinkel_111> is there a wizard i can use to get right network config?
[09:27] <heinkel_111> like running the installer again or something?
[09:28] <heinkel_111> i am using the amd-64  alternate (text based) install cd
[09:29] <zipper> waspius, i was talking about the version of (k)ubuntu
[09:29] <mulder> I am going banana again
[09:29] <waspius> zipper: a ok yes it is
[09:30] <zipper> heinkel_111, depends... if you just need to setup ip addresses and such, yes. If you need to install a specific driver for it, probably not.
[09:30] <zipper> waspius, i haven't used kopete enough to debug problems people experience with it, sorry
[09:30] <maltaethiron> its cyrus the virus!
[09:30] <waspius> zipper: dont worry i found an update
[09:31] <heinkel_111> zipper: do i need a specific driver for an ordinary asus/nvidia motherboard ethernet config?
[09:32] <mulder> oh man I am giving up for good
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, depends on which onboard ethernet device you've got. Try clicking the big "k" icon -> "System Settings" -> "Connections"
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, from there, you should be able to configure any already installed networking devices
[09:32] <zipper> mulder, i get that feeling all the time =/
[09:32] <heinkel_111> ok, thanks for help
[09:32] <zipper> heinkel_111, np
[09:33] <heinkel_111> i am not completely plugged in yet..
[09:33] <heinkel_111> but i think i will get a long enough cable in some minutes :P
[09:33] <mulder> geez I am not trying to build a rocket to jupier...just getting some updates and have a decent os so i can get rid of that bindows!
[09:36] <mulder> help folks. I will even give you Scully's mobile number if you ask!
[09:36] <zipper_> uuuh
[09:36] <zipper_> scully's phone number
[09:37] <mulder> :-)
[09:37] <mulder> Kubuntu looks so nice when it is optimised
[09:38] <Kr4t05> I can't seem to get GRUB back after installing Windows.
[09:38] <Tm_T> ugh
[09:38] <mulder> I want to have the basic things running, then after I learn alone
[09:38] <Kr4t05> The howto isn't helping.
[09:38] <zipper_> mulder, i would love to help you, but i'm a bit tied up. Apparently, the soundcards in my stationary AND laptop is hardly supported in linux, and i still need to figure out how to make twinview work properly
[09:38] <Tm_T> mulder: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[09:38] <Tm_T> mulder: like? ;)
[09:38] <Tm_T> hmm, should fix this broken iconset
[09:39] <zipper_> Tm_T, it's nice, but there's too much stuff going on for my taste... i like it clean
[09:39] <zipper_> and cmon... there's no reason to use a console irc client anymore
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: well, I have 8 desktops and everyone has something ;)
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: oh there is
[09:39] <DaSkreech> mulder: Don't learn alone :) what do you want to do?
[09:39] <Tm_T> zipper_: and I have 3 irssi running in tabs there
[09:40] <mulder> be rich and get rid of windows!
[09:40] <zipper_> Tm_T, what can irssi do, that no other gui client can do?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> mulder: I can help with the first part
[09:40] <DaSkreech>  Buy stock in Microsoft >_<
[09:40] <mulder> have the two cpus recognized, my ati x1400 too
[09:41] <zipper_> DaSkreech, heh, but then he isn't exactly rid of windows :)
[09:41] <mulder> damn everything is so slow suddenly
[09:41] <Tm_T> zipper_: well, it can't run in shell server
[09:41] <DaSkreech> zipper_: That's why I helped him with first one:)
[09:41] <gnomefreak> zipper_: irssi is extreamly powerful. i know people that have run it for 3-4 years and still havent found out everything about it
[09:41] <DaSkreech> mulder: What's up?
[09:41] <Tm_T> zipper_: sit in screen, nor can be as clean looking easy to use
[09:42] <Tm_T> zipper_: I don't need some shiny buttons to irc :)
[09:42] <mulder> genview made my lappy really really slow, mouse cursor was like walking on the moon
[09:42] <zipper_> gnomefreak, oh i agree. Irssi is a very good client. I just dont see the point of sticking to a console client, when good quality gui clients are available
[09:42] <gnomefreak> gui clients need the mouse :(
[09:42] <zipper_> Tm_T, me neither. I do like good looking, high res, antialiased text
[09:42] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems getting my grub back.
[09:42] <mulder> looks like gnenview is responsible
[09:42] <Tm_T> zipper_: have you ever tried to irc with Konvi in over 50 channels?
[09:42] <fritsch> zipper_: you can run irssi in a screen and resume from everywhere (university, etc.)
[09:42] <zipper_> gnomefreak, depends which one you're using. LostIRC doesnt require a mouse at all afaik
[09:43] <Kr4t05> I'm in the grub prompt, and when I type root (hd0,0) it tells me the device doesn't exhist.
[09:43] <zipper_> Tm_T, 50 channels? Why would you want to join that many anyway?
[09:43] <Kr4t05> hd0,0 is /dev/hda1/, right?
[09:43] <zipper_> fritsch, sure, but you could just as easily setup a bnc to do that, and still have the ability to resume it anywhere
[09:43] <Tm_T> zipper_: err, I just happen to be sometimes...
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:43] <gnomefreak> true it doesnt last time i used it but i have everything in terminal my 20 irc channels my bash term(s)
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: a bit slow, or?
[09:44] <dein> but he talks like a gentleman, like you imagined him, when you were youuung
[09:44] <gnomefreak> oh and some really nice themes out there for irssi
[09:44] <zipper_> fritsch, slow? Why?
[09:44] <mulder> ok I give up. I go back to windows when I can manage things. thanks for the help guys
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: you mean vnc connection?
[09:44] <DaSkreech> mulder: What do you need help with?
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: more slow than just a shell
[09:44] <MasterEvilAce> anyway to set a script to run w/ a certain keypress?
[09:44] <Tm_T> zipper_: anyway, gui-client doesn't offer anything to me I should switch over
[09:44] <zipper_> fritsch, no, i mean an irc bouncer
[09:44] <dein> whats the problem mulder?
[09:44] <fritsch> zipper_: what`s that?
[09:45] <gan|y|med> hello
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: bulky and annoying = gui-clients
[09:45] <zipper_> Tm_T, well, luckily there's something for all of us :)... i guess it's just a matter of personal preferences
[09:45] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: cloumsy mostly :)
[09:45] <Tm_T> zipper_: yup
[09:45] <gan|y|med> anybody here who could help me with initng?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> that too
[09:45] <mulder> I need to have my duo core aspire running fine with Kubuntu.  Thats roughly what an irc bouncer is
[09:46] <mulder> I think it is 386
[09:46] <DaSkreech> mulder: Lets fix the no packages first
[09:46] <DaSkreech>  Can You pastebin your sources?
[09:46] <fritsch> mulder: try the linux-image-686?
[09:46] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze for a milisecond once per second, so i can't play games
[09:46] <DaSkreech> fritsch: he can't get packages
[09:46] <nonex> ~~~~~~~~~People how to make what the desktop was as in windows 2 times pressing windows and so on opened?~~~~~~~~~
[09:46] <DaSkreech> That's the bigger issue
[09:46] <fritsch> DaSkreech: why not? he has internet?
[09:46] <mulder> I do yes
[09:46] <DaSkreech> fritsch: He's talking to us. He has internet
[09:46] <mulder> otherwise I wouldn't be here
[09:47] <waspius> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20697  ?
[09:47] <mulder> konqueror works fine
[09:47] <mulder> I browse and all that
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: why can`t he get packages?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> mulder: What happens when you try to get packages?
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: did you setup a proxy?
[09:47] <zipper_> fritsch, my guess is his sources.list is messed up
[09:47] <mulder> nope
[09:47] <mulder> haven't changed anything
[09:47] <fritsch> mulder: do sudo apt-get update
[09:47] <zipper_> guess not then
[09:48] <fritsch> mulder: what is reported
[09:48] <mulder> same xp pro no problemconnection running under
[09:48] <DaSkreech> waspius: join #kubuntu-devel
[09:48] <DaSkreech> waspius: I think they have a deb for that
[09:48] <waspius> DaSkreech: ok thnx
[09:48] <fritsch> mulder: what does sudo apt-get update say?
[09:50] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze for a milisecond once per second, so i can't play games
[09:50] <mulder> )% [connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>]  [Connecting to security.ubunty.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: cool ;-)
[09:50] <mulder> 0%
[09:50] <mulder> and stays there
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: what did you configure as proxy in konqueror?
[09:50] <fritsch> mulder: CTRL C it
[09:50] <CVirus> how can I start amarok from command line without all that output it spits ?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> CVirus: cant really
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: try export http_proxy="YOURPROXY:PORT"
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: after that sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <mulder> hold on
[09:51] <mulder> ctrl c where?
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: stop the apt-get update process
[09:51] <gnomefreak> CVirus: you can make a icon for it so you click the icona nd it launches
[09:51] <fritsch> mulder: first of all, did you configure a proxy in kde?
[09:52] <mulder> nope
[09:52] <mulder> did nothing
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: lol
[09:52] <mulder> :-)
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: he cannot resolv archive.ubuntu.com
[09:52] <mulder> honest hey
[09:52] <fritsch> mulder: what does the command: export |grep -i proxy say?
[09:53] <paul_> hi, glxgears isnt printing out any frame rate, just wondering why?
[09:53] <bigb> is there a kubuntu spanish channel?
[09:53] <Darkkish> #kubuntu_es ?
[09:53] <Darkkish> is that spanish?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> bigb: /j #kubuntu-es
[09:53] <mulder> in the konsole?
[09:53] <bigb> thanks
[09:53] <fritsch> paul_: zless /usr/share/doc/mesa-utils/*Debian*gz ...
[09:53] <brk3> fritsch: ?
[09:54] <CVirus> gnomefreak: well .. I'm writting a python program ... cant do that
[09:54] <fritsch> brk3: this writes about the changes in glxgears an the additional parametres
[09:54] <fritsch> mulder: yes in the console
[09:54] <gnomefreak> CVirus: try #python :)
[09:54] <mulder> nothing
[09:54] <brk3> fritsch: should it not show it in the konsole though?
[09:54] <charles1952> Hello all...slight problem here and need some help. I did an install of Firefox (latest version 1.5.6), then install Java runtime for Firefox, EN help files. Firefox loads okay, but I get a "can not connect to server" error msg. each time I try to connect to webpages. I have no proxies. Could anyone suggest a remedy?
[09:54] <mulder> it gives me my name again
[09:54] <CVirus> gnomefreak: Thanks
[09:54] <gnomefreak> CVirus: you have to find an element that will kill the verbose output
[09:54] <fritsch> brk3: just read the changelog (with the command above)
[09:54] <mulder> is it command....or just the rest?
[09:55] <fritsch> brk3: it was "patched" out by Daniel Stone
[09:55] <CVirus> gnomefreak: thats what I need
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: try ping archive.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: what is happening?
[09:55] <brk3> fritsch: cheers its working
[09:55] <mulder> I get a ping yes
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: cool
[09:55] <fritsch> mulder: now try ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <mulder> same
[09:56] <fritsch> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:56] <brk3> one other problem, the sound volume is very low and the master is definatly full, anything i can tr?
[09:56] <mulder> a lot of pingy pings
[09:56] <fritsch> mulder: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin
[09:56] <fritsch> mulder: i`look into it
[09:56] <mulder> how can I do thatp please?
[09:57] <fritsch> !pastebin > mulder
[09:57] <fritsch> mulder: look above
[09:57] <fritsch> mulder: what is in /etc/apt/apt.conf ?
[09:59] <mulder> what do i have to type Fritsch ?
[09:59] <fritsch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: go to this url and paste:
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <fritsch> mulder: and /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:59] <bigb> i need help, my screen seems to freeze during a milisecond once per second(even in desktop), so i can't play games
[10:00] <fritsch> bigb: does "top" say sth. with 100 % CPU
[10:00] <DaSkreech> fritsch: He can't resolve the server? Can he ping it?
[10:00] <fritsch> bigb: just go to a terminal and start top
[10:00] <fritsch> DaSkreech: yes he can
[10:00] <TheHighChild> Any folks here use Kontact?
[10:00] <fritsch> DaSkreech: an he has no proxy
[10:00] <mulder> bash: /etc/apt/apt.conf: Permission denied I get this
[10:00] <mulder> is the right command?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> mulder: use sudo
[10:01] <gnomefreak> sudo /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: sudo cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:01] <mulder> remember I am an absolute beginner
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: i do, okay
[10:01] <fritsch> mulder: do: sudo cat /etc/apt/apt.conf is there sth. written about Acquiere:http::Proxy
[10:01] <mulder> I have this Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[10:02] <fritsch> mulder: okay
[10:02] <bigb> fritsch: cpu 17%
[10:02] <fritsch> mulder: run: sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <Darkkish> hey is anyone in here using nvidia graphics drivers with a 6600GT?
[10:02] <fritsch> bigb: mmmh no "idea" then ... just let it run in the background and look from time to time
[10:02] <mulder> I get the same 0% thingey that I had before
[10:03] <fritsch> Darkkish: it`s me (hiding)
[10:03] <ganymed_> anybody here who could help me with initng?
[10:03] <fritsch> mulder: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin, as written above
[10:03] <farous> mulder: is your pc have live internet connection
[10:03] <fritsch> farous: he talks to us :-)
[10:04] <farous> fritsch: so. another pc :)
[10:04] <farous> have to check
[10:04] <Darkkish> bbl
[10:04] <charles1952> Hellp! slight problem here and need some help. I did an install of Firefox (latest version 1.5.6), then installed Java runtime for Firefox, & the EN help files. Firefox loads okay, but I get a "can not connect to server" error msg. each time I try to connect to webpages. I have no proxies. Could anyone suggest a fix? :-{
[10:04] <fritsch> farous: ah! good point
[10:04] <mulder> I am on a wireless
[10:04] <Kr4t05> How do I add a Windows entry to my grub menu?
[10:04] <fritsch> mulder: you are talking with us from the PC which cannot do sudo apt-get update?
[10:04] <mulder> yes sir
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: ah :-) not so formal - perhaps i am even younger than you
[10:05] <fritsch> !pastebin
[10:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: do kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: copy everything and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:05] <fritsch> mulder: click on send and give us the url
[10:06] <mulder> kate does the same as gnenview...slow everything!!!
[10:06] <mulder> geez can't move the mouse
[10:06] <fritsch> mulder: does not matter, copy the text and paste
[10:06] <farous> mulder: in a term cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <fritsch> mulder: :-) I think you are on vesa
[10:07] <fritsch> farous: if he cats it he cannot paste it online :-)
[10:07] <fritsch> farous: so i thought of kate
[10:07] <farous> fritsch: he can copy and paste from the screen :)
[10:07] <mulder> kate won't open
[10:07] <farous> and from the konsle
[10:07] <mulder> no pun intended
[10:07] <fritsch> mulder: do what farous said
[10:07] <fritsch> mulder: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <mulder> the fast and the farous!
[10:08] <mulder> ok will do
[10:08] <fritsch> mulder: mark everything with the mouse and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:08] <fritsch> mulder: in linux you can just mark and then paste (without CTRL C and CTRL V)
[10:08] <farous> fritsch: if something is hogging his sys did you try top to see what is it
[10:08] <intelikey> could i trubble someone to post the output of ls -l /dev/psaux  please
[10:09] <fritsch> farous: he just cant do sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <fritsch> farous: lets fix this problem first
[10:09] <mulder> i pasted what I had
[10:09] <fritsch> okay, give me the url
[10:09] <mulder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20699
[10:09] <fritsch> mulder: mom
[10:09] <farous> intelikey: am afraid running debian here now. if it is the same i can send it to you
[10:09] <mulder> she is ok don't worry
[10:10] <intelikey> farous yes it's the same  i just need the major and minors
[10:10] <mulder> me on the other hand....
[10:10] <Kr4t05> How do I add an entry for Windows XP to my GRUB menu?
[10:10] <fritsch> mulder: please paste the output of: "sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:10] <mulder> hello intel
[10:10] <farous> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 1 2006-08-15 08:03 /dev/psaux
[10:10] <ganymed_> so linux has damaged my battery (lasted only 10 month). is this possible?
[10:10] <intelikey> 10 1 thank you farous
[10:10] <farous> ur welcome
[10:11] <fritsch> mulder: got it?
[10:11] <farous> ganymed_: how come linux did that. have it here never had a prob like that
[10:11] <bigb> i have problems with my nvidia, wich channel should i check?
[10:12] <mulder> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20700
[10:12] <fritsch> bigb: in which way problems, i run your card ...
[10:12] <mulder> why gnenview and kate are making the system sluggish?
[10:12] <ganymed_> well, i have a decent reason to believe it "can". any ideas about how to prevent it?
[10:12] <Kr4t05> I suppose you people don't really want me adding a GRUB entry for Windows, do you? :P
[10:13] <farous> Kr4t05: lol :)
[10:13] <gnomefreak> fritsch: take a look at bug #56503 might give you a little help with mulder
[10:13] <fritsch> gnomefreak: cool, thx - i`ll have a look
[10:14] <fritsch> mulder: so far everything perfectly fine :-)
[10:14] <bigb> fritsch: i'm using the last drivers correctly, my card is XFX 5200, but the screen is not flowing smoothly
[10:14] <fritsch> mulder: do the floowing
[10:15] <fritsch> bigb: sorry, don`t know sth. about this problem
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: sudo vim /etc/apt/proxy.conf
[10:15] <ganymed_> how can i make ksensors show me any voltage params?
[10:15] <bigb> fritsch: ok, don't worry
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: move with your cursor to the Acquire HTTP line
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: press "dd"
[10:15] <fritsch> mulder: the line sould be deleted
[10:16] <fritsch> mulder: after that press ":wq"
[10:16] <fritsch> mulder: dont forget the ":"
[10:16] <waspius> is there a program that can be put on kashbar or someplace which tells u how much memory is being used and how much disk space u have left??
[10:16] <bigb> fritsch: where can i get some help with that?
[10:16] <fritsch> bigb: try #nvidia (if exists)
[10:17] <fritsch> mulder: you are fine?
[10:17] <mulder> I get this Fritsch when I type the sudo vim...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20701
[10:18] <fritsch> mulder: somebody already accessing /etc/apt/apt.conf
[10:18] <fritsch> mulder: please kill the "kate"
[10:19] <mulder> kate was killed
[10:19] <ganymed_> has nobody tried initng?
[10:19] <fritsch> mulder: retry
[10:19] <fritsch> mulder: /etc/apt/apt.conf is opened, thats the problem
[10:20] <fritsch> mulder: or try: ' echo "APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf '
[10:20] <mulder> man I am giving up...i have been trying all day sorting this thing. I have to leave it. Sorry Fritsch
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: no, the time shall not be wasted
[10:21] <charles1952> Well....I'll return later to see if someone can assist with Firefox...in the meantime, all of you please have a beer on me...BARTENDER!!!
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: please try my last command, everything between ' '
[10:21] <mulder> I am off for now...need  a breal from all the falied commands
[10:21] <farous> charles1952: what is yoru quest regarding firefox
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: we get this go :-)
[10:21] <mulder> failed
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: just 5 minutes
[10:21] <mulder> ok
[10:21] <mulder> what do you need?
[10:21] <fritsch> mulder: ' echo "APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf '
[10:21] <bigb> fritsch: i'm using the last drivers correctly, my card is XFX 5200, but the screen is not flowing smoothlycartera
[10:22] <charles1952> Oh! I installed it...everything in the installation went fine. I can open it...
[10:22] <fritsch> mulder: everything between ' '
[10:22] <charles1952> but when I try to connect to webpages I get a "can not connect to server" msg. I have no proxies...and other browser can connect.???
[10:22] <mulder> etc/apt/....
[10:22] <bigb> fritsch: i didn't mean to sent you that
[10:23] <farous> charles1952: you installed from the repos right. that is a strange err
[10:23] <mulder> Ok I am off...will try later on maybe. Thanks big time Fritsch
[10:23] <charles1952> Yup...standard repos.
[10:24] <mulder> geez I thought it would be a bit easier..
[10:24] <fritsch> :-(
[10:24] <fritsch> every start is hard, such a bug is f*ck
[10:24] <charles1952> farous: and i set the "connections setting in FF to "Cannect directly to Internet"
[10:24] <farous> charles1952: did you put anything in the bookmarks. I mean is it safe to reset it. remove the folder .mozilla
[10:25] <charles1952> farous: Yes...its safe to remove.
[10:25] <heinkel_111> can someone help me a little bit? i have a router with 2 pcs running kubuntu connected; this one, and another one
[10:25] <farous> charles1952: rm -rf .mozilla
[10:25] <fritsch> bigb: what does cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status say?
[10:25] <farous> kill all firefox first
[10:25] <heinkel_111> but it seems like the other computer won't recognize the router?
[10:26] <heinkel_111> i set the routes to same value as for this computer
[10:26] <charles1952> farous: DOne
[10:26] <heinkel_111> also dns server is connected similarly
[10:26] <farous> charles1952: in a terminal try firefox gmail.com
[10:26] <heinkel_111> but the other comp just son't seem to connect to router?
[10:26] <farous> see if there are any error messages
[10:26] <heinkel_111> doesn't
[10:27] <farous> heinkel_111: did you check the security on the router. like mac sec
[10:27] <charles1952> farous: "foxfire not found"
[10:27] <heinkel_111> no, what would that do?
[10:27] <farous> charles1952: in a terminal try firefox gmail.com
[10:27] <farous> firefox not foxfire
[10:27] <heinkel_111> faarous, the router is recognized when i boot that comp using winxp32
[10:27] <heinkel_111> farous:
[10:28] <farous> heinkel_111: ok
[10:28] <farous> can you ping the router ip
[10:28] <farous> heinkel_111: ok what type of connect wireless wired
[10:28] <heinkel_111> farous: it is wired
[10:28] <TheHighChild> anyone know how to fix frequent kontact/kmail crashes?
[10:29] <charles1952> farous: Okay...I got tons of error msgs...but it opened an instance of firefox - blank page.
[10:29] <heinkel_111> farous: ping gives me network is unreachable reply
[10:29] <farous> heinkel_111: did you set the name server to the router ip in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:30] <heinkel_111> farous: no....why should i?
[10:30] <charles1952> (sorry 'bout the foxfire...brain is scrambled :-}
[10:30] <farous> charles1952: past the error messages on the pastebin
[10:30] <charles1952> okay
[10:30] <heinkel_111> farous: on this computer name server is remote adresses
[10:30] <farous> heinkel_111: do you use dhcp
[10:30] <milos> I need help with the sound. Weird thing, when I poweron the machine and boot the Dapper, the sound works for first several minutes (for example). After that it suddenly stops working completly. I cannot play any audio file, not with arts (amarok,mplayer) or with alsa (mplayer, for example). Applications keep playing, but nothing comes out. Perhaps I should note that I've installed the smartlink drivers for modem. Can anyone help me?
[10:31] <heinkel_111> farous: in theory yes, but i think there might be a problem with it so that it does not start?
[10:31] <heinkel_111> run kubuntu installer from disk again?
[10:31] <farous> heinkel_111: i use static ip here. that is why
[10:32] <charles1952> farous:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20702
[10:32] <heinkel_111> machine was orginally installed with kubuntu in offline mode
[10:32] <farous> did not use dhcp for quite long time
[10:32] <heinkel_111> so there was no network config in setup
[10:32] <fritsch> heinkel_111: can you paste bin your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:33] <heinkel_111> fritsch...no
[10:33] <heinkel_111> because that computer can't access the web
[10:33] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay, yes
[10:33] <fritsch> heinkel_111: *g*
[10:34] <farous> charles1952: can not know i would recommend reinstalling firefox. sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: just look if there are 2 lines:
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: auto eth0
[10:34] <fritsch> heinkel_111: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:35] <charles1952> farous: Okay thanks for all the help...I'll try that next and return if there continues to be problems...Here is the beer I promised :-}
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: this sould get up your eth0 device with dhcp
[10:35] <heinkel_111> fritsch: it says auto eth1 in the first of those
[10:35] <heinkel_111> that may be the explanation maybe?
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: is eth1 the correct one? with the cable in?
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: mmmh no
[10:35] <farous> thanx: i accept though i do not drink beer :)
[10:35] <heinkel_111> fritsch: no should be eth0
[10:35] <fritsch> heinkel_111: good, so change it
[10:35] <heinkel_111> i will, and reboot, reporting back in 5 ins
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: no reboot
[10:36] <heinkel_111> minutes
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: change all eth1 to eth0
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: not only the "auto" one
[10:36] <Darkkish> sudo aptitude update not working
[10:36] <farous> heinkel_111: that will restart the net after fixing it
[10:36] <fritsch> heinkel_111: only reboot a linux after kernel upgrade :-)
[10:37] <cryptom> Hi all, what is the most powerful and configurable tool for linux laptop users, that often use different networks (pcmcia, builtin, wlan, dhcp but also static, proxy, noproxy, ipsec but on some places not, ...)? laptop-net, divine, whereami, network-manager? Something else?
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: use networkmanager and knetworkmanager
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: network-manager knetworkmanager and vpnc
[10:37] <fritsch> cryptom: not perfect, but sometimes working
[10:38] <zipper> cryptom, i use wireless assistant, but i only have a build-in wireless card, couldn't tell if it's good for you, but you might want to check it out
[10:38] <cryptom> fritsch, what does vpnc?
[10:38] <farous> cryptom: network-manager last time i checked had probs with static ip
[10:38] <fritsch> cryptom: it establishes ipsec connections
[10:38] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i may have been too quick...there are auto eth1 and auto eth0 lines
[10:39] <fritsch> heinkel_111: please look for iface eth0 inet dhcp and iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:39] <fritsch> heinkel_111: no the auto was the problem ...
[10:39] <cryptom> fritsch, I use strongswan, but I just want to call it, when really necessary
[10:39] <milos> I need help with the sound. Weird thing, when I poweron the machine and boot the Dapper, the sound works for first several minutes (for example). After that it suddenly stops working completly. I cannot play any audio file, not with arts (amarok,mplayer) or with alsa (mplayer, for example). Applications keep playing, but nothing comes out. Perhaps I should note that I've installed the smartlink drivers for modem. Can anyone help me?
[10:39] <Darkkish> I <3 adept
[10:39] <Darkkish> windows needs something like adept
[10:39] <heinkel_111> fritsch: found, both of them, and auto is one both
[10:39] <waspius> goodnight thanx for th help
[10:39] <fritsch> the dhcp, too?
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: Bittorrent?
[10:40] <Darkkish> haha
[10:40] <Darkkish> i guess
[10:40] <cryptom> I hate to change proxy settings on all browsers twice a day...
[10:40] <Darkkish> but its not the same
[10:40] <fritsch> cryptom: yes, me too :-(
[10:40] <Darkkish> adept has a nice finite list
[10:40] <DaSkreech> milos: I take it that it worked before installing the drivers?
[10:40] <cryptom> is network manager able to change that as well?
[10:40] <heinkel_111> fritsch: auto eth0 and auto eth1 yes
[10:40] <fritsch> heinkel_111: grrr *G*
[10:40] <fritsch> heinkel_111: look for the lines iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:40] <fritsch> "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[10:41] <heinkel_111> both present
[10:41] <milos> DaSkreech: It worked, but I'm not quite sure
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: cool
[10:41] <obf213> yo is frostwire not in respositories
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what does route -n say?
[10:41] <cryptom> fritsch, I dont find a recent documentation or project website about laptop-net, is it still in development?
[10:41] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say?
[10:41] <milos> DaSkreech: That's beacuse the mp3 didn't work before I downloaded the needed packages, so I didn't pay much attention to it.
[10:41] <fritsch> crabstic: mmmh don`t know of laptop-net, sorry
[10:42] <heinkel_111> fritsch: route -n: looks like an empty table
[10:42] <DaSkreech> milos: :-)
[10:42] <obf213> !frostwire
[10:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:42] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay, please run dhlient eth0
[10:42] <DaSkreech> You still have sound devices just no sound?
[10:42] <Darkkish> yeah the next thing i need to do is install mp3 support
[10:42] <fritsch> heinkel_111: sudo dhclient eth0 what is happening?
[10:43] <milos> Yap
[10:43] <milos> Yup
[10:43] <milos> I get the sound only tens of seconds after the login
[10:43] <milos> Then, it simply disappears
[10:43] <psb154> night
[10:43] <fritsch> milos: perhaps kmix mutes it for you
[10:44] <milos> No, it doesn't
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: check if the volume is zero
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: check also in a terminal with "alsamixer"
[10:44] <milos> Checked that one too
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: which soundcard?
[10:44] <fritsch> milos: intel8x0?
[10:44] <heinkel_111> fritsch: dhclient reports: Listening, sending, seinding,DHCPDISCOVER on port 67 intervals 6,19,14,21,11 ----no DHCPOFFERS received
[10:44] <milos> It's some AC97 shit
[10:45] <zipper> I want to remove some bluetooth tools which i'm never going to use. That requires me to remove kubuntu-desktop, should this cause any problems?
[10:45] <fritsch> heinkel_111: now please do: sudo dhclient eth1
[10:45] <farous> milos: lsof /dev/dsp
[10:45] <Kr4t05> Does anyone here dual-boot?
[10:45] <milos> farous: nothing
[10:46] <farous> milos: grest nothing is using the oss device
[10:46] <heinkel_111> fritsch: which adress should the DHCPDISCOVER call go to?
[10:46] <Kr4t05> I need help adding a Windows option to my GRUB menu, can anyone help me out?
[10:46] <heinkel_111> it goes to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: its okay
[10:47] <fritsch> does eth1 get an ip?
[10:47] <heinkel_111> fritsch: same reply as on eth0, basically, no DHCPOFFERS
[10:47] <farous> milos:  aplay /usr/share/sounds/gaim/leave.wav
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay pleas look if you network cable is plugged in!
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: seems like it is not plugged in
[10:47] <DaSkreech> farous: Ahhh Gaim@!
[10:47] <fritsch> heinkel_111: or your router does not give you an adress
[10:47] <farous> DaSkreech: any sound file is all i need :)
[10:48] <DaSkreech> I know. Just seemed strange to pick Gaim for all random sounds
[10:48] <milos> Just a moment, I'm going to restart the machine, I played with modprobe, and probably messed something up.
[10:49] <farous> forgot i am in kubuntu room but i really prefer gaim
[10:49] <farous> running both kde and gnome here. picking up the applications i like from both :)
[10:49] <DaSkreech> farous: Me too but using non standard applications esp directly after install isn't going to help the person
[10:50] <Darkkish> lol i installed gnome
[10:50] <obf213> hey i just installed frostwire but i can seem to open it
[10:50] <DaSkreech> obf213: You have Java?
[10:50] <obf213> its in my menu under internte tbut when i double click i see nothing
[10:50] <obf213> yes
[10:50] <DaSkreech> obf213: open it from the Command line. You'll get an error
[10:50] <obf213> i have sun java webstart?
[10:50] <Darkkish> why is linux using ALL of my ram?
[10:51] <obf213> DaSkreech I get nothing
[10:51] <fritsch> Darkkish: why not?
[10:51] <obf213> it just closes the command line
[10:51] <fritsch> Darkkish: "free" its useless
[10:51] <DaSkreech> What? it closes the command line?
[10:51] <farous> DaSkreech: most if it is cach to speed up your appl
[10:51] <Darkkish> fritsch:  what?
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: Using all of your RAM is good
[10:51] <milos> Ok, a friend of mine needs to use the phone, I'll be back in a minute. Please wait:)
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Why did you put it in if not to use
[10:51] <Darkkish> hmm
[10:52] <DaSkreech> milos: Ok :)
[10:52] <Darkkish> but i don't ahve any programs open
[10:52] <Darkkish> at all
[10:52] <Darkkish> shouldn't some of it be free
[10:52] <obf213> DaSkreech your right, i need to upgrade to JRE 1.4
[10:52] <fritsch> Darkkish: look with top, if really sth. is eating it up
[10:52] <DaSkreech> obf213: What java did you install?
[10:52] <fritsch> Darkkish: press "M" in top, to get it sort by memory usage
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Darkkish: When you open a application it will open up the RAM for it
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: still there?
[10:53] <Darkkish> xorg
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: found your cable not connected
[10:53] <zipper> oh my god... amarok actually is quite nice
[10:53] <Darkkish> is using 200M
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: not good, this is not good
[10:53] <fritsch> heinkel_111: what graphics driver?
[10:53] <heinkel_111> fritsch: yes i am still here
[10:53] <heinkel_111> hang on
[10:53] <DaSkreech> zipper:  :-D
[10:54] <DaSkreech> waspius: Welcome back
[10:54] <heinkel_112> hello
[10:54] <fritsch> Darkkish: sorry, not good - what graphics driver
[10:54] <zipper> DaSkreech, i've always been using xmms, but i'll give amarok a real try now
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: lol?
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: it was the cable?
[10:54] <heinkel_112> fritsch: this is me in opera after rebooting to windows
[10:54] <obf213> DaSkreech: I saw the error in the command line but i do have sun java installed at a more recent version than needed
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: ah okay
[10:54] <obf213> for some reason it cant fidn it or something
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: please look at you IP Configuration
[10:54] <DaSkreech> obf213: can You run sudo update-alternatives java ?
[10:54] <heinkel_112> fritsch: network cable proven? :P
[10:54] <fritsch> heinkel_112: if you set it up "non auto"
[10:55] <DaSkreech> and change to the right java
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: so - 2 chances_
[10:55] <Darkkish> i only have 32MB freespace and i have almost no programs open
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: first: your router does not dhcp
[10:55] <heinkel_111> fritsch: where to look?
[10:55] <fritsch> heinkel_112: Righ Click on Network Connection
[10:55] <obf213> DaSkreech im about to
[10:55] <fritsch> Darkkish: which graphics driver?
[10:55] <zipper> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <Darkkish> fritsch: the defaults
[10:56] <fritsch> Darkkish: argh :-( this depends on the system
[10:56] <Darkkish> :(
[10:56] <Darkkish> brb
[10:56] <Darkkish> logging to kde
[10:56] <obf213> DaSkreech: got it thanks
[10:56] <heinkel_111> fritsch: use heinkel_111 ...then i get an audio when you msg here
[10:56] <fritsch> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[10:56] <DaSkreech> obf213: Works now?
[10:56] <fritsch> heinkel_111: okay
[10:56] <DaSkreech> obf213: Try Alt+Space
[10:57] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you looked into your network settings?
[10:57] <obf213> DaSkreech: it works
[10:57] <DaSkreech> obf213: Sweet :-)
[10:57] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i am trying to do that yes, but i am in windows right now, i am not so fast
[10:58] <Darkkish> k
[10:58] <Darkkish> clean logon
[10:58] <fritsch> heinkel_111: no problem, i think you have configured your things statically here
[10:58] <Darkkish> only thing open us konversation
[10:58] <fritsch> Darkkish:  you are running dapper?
[10:58] <Darkkish> Memory: 865,012 KB used, 171,084 KB free
[10:58] <Darkkish> yes
[10:59] <fritsch> Darkkish: okay cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[10:59] <farous> Darkkish: type free to see how much in cach
[10:59] <fritsch> Darkkish: perhaps you use vesa here or we can finetune anything
[11:00] <Darkkish> i don't understand fritsch
[11:00] <fritsch> Darkkish: do the following command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver"
[11:00] <Darkkish> yeah?
[11:00] <fritsch> Darkkish: what does it say?
[11:00] <zipper> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, and as usual i'm using the wiki guide for doing so. However, i keep on getting an error i've never seen before : http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2050. Anyone knows whats wrong?
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: this is normal (TM)
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: because of the synaptics touchpad settings in xorg.conf
[11:01] <fritsch> zipper: because of the "painting" thing i mean
[11:01] <zipper> oh?
[11:02] <fritsch> zipper: there is a device section for graphics tablette, if you restart kdm, then you should use nivia i think
[11:03] <zipper> fritsch, but i'm not, tried that already. By the way, when i try running glxgears, i get informed that "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." even though the GLX module should be loaded according to xorg.conf
[11:03] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:04] <zipper> fritsch, as i said earlier, i was following the wiki guide, so i already got nvidia-glx installed
[11:05] <fritsch> zipper: please try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:05] <fritsch> zipper: just for be sure
[11:05] <zipper> already got that one as well
[11:05] <zipper> but i'll try it just to be sure
[11:05] <zipper> uuh
[11:05] <fritsch> :-)
[11:06] <zipper> something interresting here
[11:06] <zipper> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:06] <fritsch> tell
[11:06] <zipper> hmm, so if you want to use SMP, you cant get the restricted modules?
[11:06] <fritsch> try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:07] <zipper> ehrm
[11:07] <zipper> i just told you, that package doesnt exist
[11:07] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get update
[11:08] <fritsch> zipper: apt-cache search linux-restricted |grep 686
[11:08] <farous> zipper i think you need to update your repos
[11:08] <farous> !repos > zipper
[11:10] <StrudelNinja__> whenever I play an mp3 in amaroK it says it's done immediately and nothing plays
[11:10] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormat
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormat > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <fritsch> !RestrictedFormats > StrudelNinja
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <fritsch> wargh
[11:11] <DaSkreech> fritsch: I win :)
[11:11] <StrudelNinja> huh
[11:11] <fritsch> hehe
[11:11] <StrudelNinja> ah I see
[11:12] <DaSkreech> :-) If you have more questions We'll be happy to make a bot talk to you again ;-)
[11:12] <willnapier> Hi everyone I'm trying to compile a .sh -  how do I do that in kubuntu?
[11:12] <zipper> farous, i appriciate your help, but i already know this. The problem is, the restricted modules package i need, apparently doesnt exist. I installed a kernel from the repositories in order to enable dual-core (SMP)
[11:12] <DaSkreech> willnapier: You don't .. Ever
[11:12] <fritsch> zipper: what does uname -r say?
[11:13] <fritsch> zipper: ah okay, know it from above :-)
[11:13] <willnapier> hi DaSkreech
[11:13] <farous> zipper: ah ok :)
[11:13] <DaSkreech> willnapier: You want to run a .sh
[11:13] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i am going to try to configure the network using dhcp after disconnecting this machine...back in 5 minutes
[11:13] <willnapier> ok I'm trying to get a latest version of kmobiletools
[11:14] <willnapier> it tells me to run compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:14] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and you have that file?
[11:14] <willnapier> and I wondered how to do this (or is it inadvisable?
[11:14] <willnapier> I have that file
[11:14] <DaSkreech> willnapier: If it says to do it ... :)
[11:14] <willnapier> hehe
[11:14] <willnapier> ok
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Are you in the folder with it?
[11:14] <willnapier> so how do I do it?
[11:14] <willnapier> yes
[11:14] <farous> zipper: is it nividia or ati
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Either in konqueror or in the command line?
[11:14] <willnapier> I'm in a terminal
[11:14] <fritsch> zipper: you have this deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:15] <fritsch> zipper: restricted is important
[11:15] <DaSkreech> willnapier:type ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:15] <zipper> farous, it's nvidia... usually i dont have any trouble installing it, but i guess the new kernel i installed is causing trouble. Perhaps i should be using 2.6.15-23 instead of 2.6.15-25? Seems like there's restricted modules for 15-23
[11:15] <zipper> fritsch, i have all of them, including multiverse and universe
[11:15] <farous> zipper: you can install nividia-kernel-source
[11:15] <farous> then use module-assistant
[11:16] <farous> all you need is the kernel driver for it to work
[11:16] <fritsch> hups ;-)
[11:16] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says that a command is not found in line 33 - ./admin/cvs.sh
[11:16] <willnapier> it also says 'AUTOCONF NOT FOUND
[11:17] <darkyoshi372> If I set my password to blank, will I get auto-login?
[11:17] <DaSkreech> willnapier:type gcc and tell me what it says
[11:17] <zipper> fritsch, is there a guide for doing it that way?
[11:18] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: That's irrelevant
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: i prefer giving you the online link for your kernel
[11:18] <willnapier> DaSkreech: command not found
[11:18] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: What matters is wether you set autologin
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: what says uname -r
[11:18] <zipper> fritsch, since i've tried to install the drivers directly from nvidia.com, but i cannot do that without the kernel headers/restricted modules
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: you can
[11:18] <DaSkreech> willnapier: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:18] <zipper> fritsch, 2.6.15-26-686
[11:18] <willnapier> ok
[11:18] <fritsch> zipper: mom
[11:19] <farous> zipper: by the way the linux restricte modules package is in the repos section restricted
[11:20] <darkyoshi372> Thanks, DaSkreech!
[11:20] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure kxdocker?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> darkyoshi372: You probably want a password
[11:20] <farous> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:20] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2615-26-686 does not exist in dapper
[11:20] <obf213> can you find itune libaries iwth amarok
[11:20] <obf213> !itunes
[11:20] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[11:20] <obf213> lol well nevermind
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >timi
[11:21] <farous> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[11:21] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2615-26-686 does not exist in dapper
[11:21] <willnapier> DaSkreech: ok all done, but I tried ./compile-kmobiletools.sh again and got the same error messages
[11:21] <DaSkreech> obf213: the Amarok on the trunk has it
[11:21] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure kxdocker?
[11:21] <farous> lol that is stupid
[11:21] <obf213> Da
[11:21] <obf213> DaSkreech: the trunk?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and gcc gives you ?
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper:
[11:21] <DaSkreech> obf213: teh code they are working on now
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686_<IP_ADDRESS>-3_i386.deb
[11:21] <obf213> ok
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: they really do exist
[11:21] <willnapier> DaSkreech: gcc gives 'no input files'
[11:21] <farous> ok take care bye for now
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >timi
[11:21] <fritsch> zipper: just download it and dpkg -i this one
[11:21] <obf213> !banshee >obf213
[11:22] <DaSkreech> willnapier: ok. Good what does the ./compile-kmobiletools.sh give you?
[11:22] <fritsch> heinkel_111: ?
[11:22] <zipper> fritsch, hmm, how come i cant get it directly from apt-get then?
[11:23] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it is several lines long - how do I show you (it says not to post here)
[11:23] <fritsch> zipper: which apt mirror do you use?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> !paste
[11:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:23] <fritsch> zipper: just download it and install it ...
[11:23] <TheHighChild> Does anyone use Knode?
[11:23] <DaSkreech> Use that website
[11:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: i tried 1) to run installer again 2) switch plugs at router, so that it should run with same settings as here
[11:23] <zipper> fritsch, i use nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: no dhcp
[11:24] <DaSkreech> obf213: I take it you don't want to compile code :-)
[11:24] <zipper> fritsch, i know, and thank you very much for finding that package, but i really want to have it in my repositories
[11:24] <fritsch> heinkel_111: windows uses dhcp? what LAN Card do you use?
[11:24] <obf213> DaSkreech: waht do i have to do
[11:24] <obf213> lol
[11:24] <fritsch> zipper: plese remove every "nl" from your apt sources.list
[11:24] <obf213> can i jut download the source code or whatever
[11:25] <DaSkreech> obf213: Yeah but if you are not comfortable just use banshee for now :)
[11:25] <heinkel_111> it is onboard my Asus M2N-SLI mainboard which has Nvidia 570 chipset
[11:25] <fritsch> zipper: after that: sudo apt-get update and retry
[11:25] <zipper> fritsch, so just archive.ubuntu.com ? Will it automaticly detect which mirror is closest to me or?
[11:25] <fritsch> heinkel_111: could be the problem
[11:25] <fritsch> zipper: yes
[11:25] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says ./admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found
[11:25] <willnapier> DaSkreech: also autoconf not found
[11:25] <zipper> fritsch, sweet, didnt know that
[11:25] <willnapier> DasSkreech: also KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or higher
[11:26] <ubuntu__> hi im new to this
[11:26] <heinkel_112> fritsch: it still seems to work in windows, though
[11:26] <obf213> DaSkreech: its a kernel no?
[11:26] <DaSkreech> well type autoconf --version
[11:26] <heinkel_112> rebooted to windows :P
[11:26] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Welcome
[11:26] <fritsch> heinkel_111: do lsmod |grep force
[11:26] <obf213> i had to get an smp kernel for my dual core
[11:26] <ubuntu__> kubuntu rules
[11:26] <DaSkreech> obf213: Is whata kernel?
[11:26] <willnapier> DaSkreech: also ./configure: no such file or directory
[11:26] <fritsch> heinkel_111: or try sudo modprobe forcedeth
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_111: sudo modprobe forcedeth
[11:27] <heinkel_112> hmm fritsch: i will do that tomorrow..i am giving up for today
[11:27] <milos> I'm back
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_111: after that: sudo dhclient eth0
[11:27] <willnapier> DaSkreech: and for make it says 'no targets specified
[11:27] <fritsch> heinkel_112: wargh everybody is giving up today :-(
[11:27] <heinkel_112> thanks for very much assistance
[11:27] <DaSkreech> willnapier: what does autoconf --version say ?
[11:27] <obf213> DaSkreech nvm
[11:27] <fritsch> zipper: working?
[11:27] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says command not found
[11:28] <fritsch> willnapier: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[11:28] <Darkkish> i finished the problem
[11:28] <Darkkish> fixed
[11:28] <willnapier> DaSkreech: ok done
[11:28] <fritsch> Darkkish: already upgraded
[11:29] <fritsch> willnapier: now what does autoconf --version say?
[11:29] <milos> I tried to play a bit with the sound. First of all, it worked just until a moment ago (and for some longer time), and now it's again off. I don't think it's the modem, since the music worked together with the pppd for some time.
[11:29] <willnapier> DaSkreech: it says 2.59
[11:29] <zipper> fritsch, sorry, being semi-afk here, i'll try it very soon and let you know
[11:31] <willnapier> DaSkreech: but I still get the same error messages, ie KDE requires 2.53 or higher
[11:31] <willnapier> DaSkreech: that is, when I try ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Sudo apt-get install autoconf
[11:32] <milos> DaSkreech, are you there?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> milos: I think so
[11:32] <DaSkreech> The Net just died
[11:32] <willnapier> DaSkreech: did that and it says that autoconf is the newest version
[11:33] <milos> I tried to play a bit with the sound. First of all, it worked just until a moment ago (and for some longer time), and now it's again off. I don't think it's the modem, since the music worked together with the pppd for some time.
[11:33] <DaSkreech> willnapier: and autoconf --version doesn't give you anything ?
[11:33] <willnapier> DaSkreech: yes, it gives the 2.59 version
[11:33] <DaSkreech> milos: Ah Ok who was helping you before? They would have more info than me currently
[11:34] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Ah ok Where did you get this script?
[11:34] <willnapier> from the kmobiletools svn
[11:34] <milos> Oh, hell, I can't remeber:)
[11:34] <willnapier> from the nightly
[11:35] <DaSkreech> fritsch: Were you helping milos? :-)
[11:35] <fritsch> DaSkreech: no?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> willnapier: ooer :)
[11:35] <willnapier> hehehe I
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Doh farous?
[11:35] <willnapier> I've never been that brave before
[11:35] <fritsch> DaSkreech: he went for sleep
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Ah.
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Well I'm about to leave so I want to help willnapier not sure I can take on two :-(
[11:36] <milos> Here I go again: I have a weird sound problem with the Kubuntu 6.06. When I log on the machine, it works for some time. Then it suddenly stops working. With modem or without modem, it just stops working. Any ideas?
[11:36] <milos> DaSkreech: No problem
[11:37] <willnapier> DaSkreech: :-)
[11:37] <zecarlos> Gente, instalei o KDE aqui no ubuntu. Agora o gerenciador padro ficou sendo do KDE. Queria voltar ao normal com o gerenciador de inicializao do GNOME
[11:37] <DaSkreech> milos: cool attitude :)
[11:37] <fritsch> milos: do you use an intel8x0?
[11:37] <milos> Ah, it's some via chipset.
[11:37] <milos> How do I check that?
[11:37] <fritsch> milos: lsmod |grep snd
[11:38] <milos> snd_via82xx and ac97
[11:38] <fritsch> milos: i still think sth. is muting you card
[11:38] <milos> No, because it works for some time.
[11:38] <fritsch> milos: because it just "walks" without sound :-)
[11:39] <fritsch> milos: strange
[11:39] <willnapier> DaSkreech: the other part of the error message was that no makefile was found
[11:39] <milos> Master, Master M, Headphones, PCM, etc. are all unmuted.
[11:39] <fritsch> milos: could you check with alsamixer before and after?
[11:39] <milos> In alsamixer
[11:39] <willnapier> DaSkreech: and no targets specified
[11:40] <fritsch> milos: perhaps it enables "Line Jack" or Digital out
[11:40] <milos> In alsamixer or ...?
[11:41] <TheHighChild> Any knode users?
[11:41] <fritsch> milos: yes
[11:42] <milos> I don't see any of such entries.
[11:43] <fritsch> milos: in kmix everything normal?
[11:43] <fritsch> milos: what does dmesg say? some error?
[11:44] <milos> As far as i can tel, there are no errors.
[11:44] <milos> Would the output of dmesg help?
[11:44] <fritsch> in kmix nothing muted
[11:44] <milos> Nope
[11:44] <fritsch> milos, if your soundblaster "gives up" perhaps
[11:45] <willnapier> DaSkreech: there is a note on the website saying that the svn requires qt4 and so you have to 'downgrade'
[11:45] <DaSkreech> Dang
[11:45] <fritsch> milos: sorry, i really do not have an idea
[11:45] <milos> :)
[11:45] <TheHighChild> milos: have you tried typing 'killall artsd' in the konsole and then retrying your sound apps?
[11:45] <milos> Yes, been there
[11:45] <willnapier> DaSkreech: that is, downgrade the admin directory
[11:45] <willnapier> (whatever that means|)
[11:45] <DaSkreech> willnapier: Ha You may want to jump into #kubuntu-devel and get some help with installing a edgy build :-)
[11:45] <milos> It's really, really weird.
[11:46] <Darkkish> it worked
[11:46] <Darkkish> thanks a ton
[11:46] <Darkkish> KDE 3.5.4
[11:46] <fritsch> Darkkish: cool *G* also look at the "new" amarok
[11:46] <willnapier> DaSkreech: yes ok thanks
[11:47] <Darkkish> will do
[11:47] <milos> I might try to reinstall the whole Kubuntu later.
[11:47] <willnapier> #kubuntu-devel
[11:47] <willnapier> oops
[11:47] <Darkkish> the "whole kubnutu"?
[11:47] <charlie_> hey all
[11:47] <DaSkreech> willnapier: try /join #kubuntu-devel
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: mmmh now
[11:47] <TheHighChild> milos: Does the sound work after restarting your X session or only after a reboot?
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: no, i dont think so
[11:47] <willnapier> DaSkreech: thanks!
[11:47] <milos> I think it only works after a poweroff!!
[11:47] <fritsch> milos: which apps do not make sound?
[11:47] <fritsch> just kde apps?
[11:48] <milos> I tried the mplayer with the  -ao alsa too
[11:48] <fritsch> milos: try
[11:48] <zipper> fritsch, hmm, changing my repositories to archive.ubuntu instead of nl.archive.ubuntu didnt change much. I still cannot find restricted-modules-2.6.15-26, only 2.6.15-23
[11:48] <fritsch> zipper: you did apt-get update?
[11:48] <fritsch> zipper: changed the right lines?
[11:48] <zipper> fritsch, ofcourse
[11:49] <milos> Ok, I'm gonna try the reboot option first, to check if the bloody thing works only after the poweroff.
[11:49] <fritsch> zipper: aah i sea
[11:49] <TheHighChild> zipper: I have the same modules you do, also
[11:49] <fritsch> zipper: please just install the -23 version
[11:49] <fritsch> these are running on my -686 but did not see it
[11:50] <fritsch> zipper: please just install:
[11:50] <zipper> fritsch, and they're working? You're using .6.15-26 as well?
[11:50] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686
[11:51] <fritsch> zipper: it does all you need
[11:51] <zipper> great, thanks
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: after that sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: modprobe nvidia
[11:52] <charlie_> hey guys I was wondering if I could get some help enabling the nvidia-glx drivers for my onboard Nvidia Video.
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:52] <zipper> fritsch, i know what to do once i have the restricted modules, thanks
[11:52] <fritsch> zipper: after that sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:53] <zipper> i know, i know. I've been installing nvidia drivers countless of times, but thanks anyway
[11:53] <charlie_> oh someone else is having issues too I see heh
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: there?
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: what does uname -r say?
[11:53] <fritsch> charlie_: "uname -r"
[11:54] <charlie_> well my problem is I know the command to enable it, but every time I do, I get this error message in the console "
[11:54] <charlie_> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:54] <charlie_> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:54] <charlie_> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:54] <charlie_> command:
[11:54] <fritsch> charlie_: don`t paste
[11:54] <milos> Ok, it seems that only the poweroff "enables" the sound
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, so, tried using the command it suggests you?
[11:54] <charlie_> yes I have
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, you might want to take a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[11:54] <zipper> charlie_, and?
[11:54] <milos> Might be some freaky hardware stuff, but the cursed XP doesn't have the same problem.
[11:54] <charlie_> and I always get that message
[11:55] <milos> The sound works every time in it.
[11:55] <fritsch> milos: look in dmesg what happens
[11:55] <fritsch> milos: after it does not work anymore
[11:55] <zipper> charlie_, are you following the guide on the wiki?
[11:55] <Darkkish> hey fritsch my computer has almost twice as much free ram now :-D
[11:55] <milos> Ok, I'll be back (tm by the whoever has the rights on Terminator 2:)
[11:56] <charlie_> no I haven't checked the wiki yet on that issue
[11:56] <zipper> Darkkish, what did you do?
[11:56] <west-en> what's the real reason to get K Desktop Enviroment?
[11:56] <zipper> charlie_, theres a good guide there for installing nvidia drivers
[11:56] <Darkkish> updated kde
[11:56] <Darkkish> @ zipper
[11:56] <zipper> !nvidia > charlie_
[11:56] <zipper> Darkkish, ah, to what version?
[11:56] <charlie_> I'm running Kubuntu on an eMachine
[11:56] <Darkkish> zipper:  the current one
[11:57] <west-en> what's the real reason to get K Desktop Enviroment?
[11:57] <zipper> west-en, linus likes it more than gnome =]
[11:57] <Darkkish> its user friendly in my opinion
[11:57] <Darkkish> also what zipper said
[11:57] <west-en> ok, here i got one reason! some more?
[11:58] <Darkkish> hmm
[11:58] <Darkkish> i honestly don't know why
[11:58] <west-en> i want to now the reasons why KDE is "better" than gnome and XFCE
[11:58] <Darkkish> i just likeit more
[11:58] <zipper> west-en, some like the look of kde more than gnome
[11:58] <Darkkish> oh oh
[11:58] <charlie_> ok I lspci and I'm definitely using Nvidia.. I believe it's Nvidia 6100 OnBoard
[11:58] <zipper> west-en, it's not really "better". It's mostly a matter of taste and personal preference
[11:58] <Darkkish> http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome.php
[11:58] <west-en> yes i have heard that switchers from Windows to Linux likes KDE because it is similar to Windows, what do you think about this?
[11:59] <Darkkish> read that west-en
[11:59] <Darkkish> it will answer all of yoru questions
[11:59] <west-en> ok i am reading
[11:59] <fritsch> west-en: have fun
[11:59] <TheHighChild> west-en: Most people, including myself like KDE because of the budnled packages. A lot of them just rock like kontact
[12:00] <west-en> yes, thaok
[12:00] <zipper> fritsch, didnt work. I still get the same wierd error. I also get it sometimes when i run easyUbuntu, and i have no idea whats causing it. http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=2050
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: you have nvidia-glx installed?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: you have! loaded the nvidia modul?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: lsmod |grep nvidia
[12:01] <Darkkish> how do i get stuff off of my programs menu?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: just to be sure
[12:01] <Darkkish> nvm
[12:01] <Darkkish> figured it out
[12:01] <ubuntu__> hi has anyone managed to get vmware working ?
[12:01] <fritsch> zipper: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:02] <fritsch> ubuntu__: yes, me
[12:02] <zipper> fritsch, as i said, no, it didnt work. the nvidia module is not loaded
[12:02] <ubuntu__> fritsch was it an easy setup
[12:02] <fritsch> zipper: what is the error message?
[12:02] <fritsch> ubuntu__: http://www.achsedesbloeden.com/fritsch/index.php?action=blogpart&&getartikel=349
[12:02] <fritsch> zipper: you "just" have to do modprobe nvidia
[12:03] <ubuntu__> nice nice :)
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:03] <zipper> fritsch, sigh
[12:03] <zipper> fritsch, even if i get the nvidia module installed, i still need to fix that error
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: you won`t understand me, or?
[12:03] <fritsch> zipper: you only need to have 2 things
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: first nvidia modul has to be load in order to start x
[12:04] <zipper> fritsch, i cannot modprobe the nvidia module.
[12:04] <word> why do certain programs not startup with the session but others do?
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: nvidia-glx has to be installed, too
[12:04] <zipper> it doesnt exist
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: ah!!!
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: cd /lib/modules
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: find . -iname *nvidia*
[12:04] <ubuntu__> fritsch is there enough support with vmware to install xp and run battlefield2 and WOW
[12:04] <fritsch> zipper: find /lib/modules *nvidia*
[12:05] <milos> dmesg didn't report anything after the sound stopped working.
[12:05] <fritsch> ubuntu__: yes, no, no
[12:05] <zipper> fritsch, i can find the nvidia driver for my current kernel there. What to do with it?
[12:05] <fritsch> zipper: please tell me the error message of "modprobe nvidia"
[12:05] <milos> Should I provide it with some -n option?
[12:06] <fritsch> milos: no, sorry :-(
[12:06] <zipper> fritsch, told you already, "FATAL: Module nvidia not found."
[12:06] <fritsch> zipper: do a "sudo depmod -a"
[12:06] <fritsch> zipper: and modprobe again
[12:06] <rafael_> hi people
[12:06] <zipper> fritsch, still doesnt find it
[12:06] <rafael_> i just installed ubuntu linux, and im trying to install ut2004.
[12:06] <ICE> does anyone user freenx here?
[12:07] <rafael_> i see a .sh file on the dvd, how do i run it?
[12:07] <ICE> the server is telling me I have to log in to nxserver but can't seem to log in
[12:07] <fritsch> zipper: you have this one: 2.6.15-23-686/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:07] <fritsch> zipper /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:08] <milos> rafael: What's the name of the .sh file?
[12:08] <zipper> fritsch, nope, dont have that one.
[12:08] <zipper> sigh
[12:08] <fritsch> zipper: puh, mom
[12:08] <ubuntu__> fritsch how come you cant run battlefield or wow in vmware ?
[12:08] <zipper> fritsch, the easy way is just to install 2.6.15-23 instead... probably not worth the trouble of getting 2.6.15-26