[00:00] <itguru> The user doesn't want to sync, but start afresh with a new calender to be a duplicate of the old one
[00:00] <itguru> I'm firing up thunderbird now to check it out, I didn't know you could add google calenders
[00:01] <psingh> itguru, and it sounds like the user wants the calendar to be stored locally-- not connected online.  Is that correct?
[00:05] <itguru> psingh the calender is to be imported into a *heaves* exchange calender .... (damn you OWA) :)
[00:06] <sywisy> hi
[00:06] <psingh> itguru, Ha Ha.  Thunderbird esports as *.ics or *.cvs.  Would one of these work for you when you "re-import" into exchange?
[00:10] <sywisy> when using emacs to compile C-code, i do M-x compile, and then type file name in
[00:10] <sywisy> can i tie this a button sequence?
[00:10] <sywisy> to a button sequence*
[00:10] <Telroth> psingh: for what it's worth, google offers a direct download of a calendar as ics or cvs; you could cut TB out of the loop entirely.
[00:12] <Krenair> When I run gedit, this gets spammed to console:
[00:12] <Krenair> ** (gedit:10950): CRITICAL **: gedit_spell_checker_language_to_key: assertion `lang != NULL' failed
[00:12] <Krenair> 11.04
[00:12] <Krenair> gedit 2.30.4-2ubuntu1
[00:13] <psingh> Telroth, I was just thinking there must be a way to do it directly.  Wasn't clear initially that itguru wanted to import it into exchange.  Looked like the goal was to import into Ubuntu as a local calendar.
[00:18] <itguru> psingh I don't like having to look after windows boxes, but believe me, it was hard enough getting some clients to switch - but I'm still supporting hybrid setups :(
[00:18] <Psyclone> i have windows installed side by side with xubuntu, is there a way i can resize the free space in my xubuntu
[00:18] <Solved> I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on my relatively fast, new laptop, but when I boot it from the CD (which the iso is correct), it freezes in the part where the white and orange dots below "ubuntu" move around. Any ideas?
[00:18] <Solved> Psyclone: Where is this free space coming from, and how much of it is there?
[00:19] <Psyclone> Solved : I have only 150 mb free in xubuntu but 17 gb free in windows and i want to take memory from windows
[00:20] <SIFTU> Psyclone: gparted from a live cd
[00:20] <Solved> Psyclone: Well, you have to resize your windows partition to your desired size, and then grow your xubuntu partition
[00:20] <robin0800> Krenair, run language support which will see if there is any thing missing
[00:20] <Psyclone> Solved : do i do that through gparted
[00:21] <Telroth> SIFTU: the performance loss is inside of mdadm somewhere. The drives themselves seem to be functioning properly (sustained 120MB/s from the individual drives), whereas the raid device (/dev/md1) is giving me 30MB/s bursts every other second (0-2% cpu usage)
[00:21] <Solved> Psyclone: Yes, or any partition editor
[00:21] <Telroth> Not sure if that helps any, but if you have any other ideas of things I should look into, it would be helpful.
[00:21] <Solved> I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on my relatively fast, new laptop, but when I boot it from the CD (which the iso is correct), it freezes in the part where the white and orange dots below "ubuntu" move around. Any ideas?
[00:22] <SIFTU> Telroth: and it just happened all of a sudden?
[00:22] <Chwoka> Solved: how long did you/are you wait/waiting?
[00:22] <SIFTU> Solved: is it a laptop with hybrid graphics
[00:23] <Solved> Chwoka: It just freezes, and I'
[00:23] <CluelessPerson> huh?
[00:23] <Solved> ve left it on for about 20 minutes, and still nothing happens
[00:23] <Chwoka> CluelessPerson: ha ha, very clever
[00:23] <Solved> The dots stop moving
[00:23] <CluelessPerson> Chwoka,  Don't you love me? :p
[00:23] <Solved> SIFTU: Uh, I don't know D:
[00:24] <SIFTU> Solved: what make/model
[00:24] <Telroth> write Performance has been poor the past month or so (I attributed it to never noticing it before, and it simply writing to diskcache because the files I was working with fit into cache). I noticed playback stuttering a few days ago, and that's when I checked the read performance, and found it well below normal
[00:24] <Solved> \
[00:24] <Solved> SIFTU: HP Pavillion dv6-6148ca
[00:25] <manbra_linux> How do I get 'clone' view like windows on ubuntu 11.04?
[00:25] <Krenair> robin0800, that fixed it. thanks.
[00:25] <Chwoka> okay i am also installing ubuntu off of disk, and i'm confused about the partitioning thing. allocating drive space.
[00:25] <SIFTU> Telroth: I'm not sure how XFS performs when it is 94% full, but most filesystems degrade after 80%
[00:25] <ridz16> Hey guys I have a question regarding memory upgrade for my old computer. Max supported is 1gb and there are 2 memory slot, should I get one 1gb memory or two 512mb?  which option would save more energy and/or more beneficial to the computer in terms of efficiency? I currently have 256 and its not enough for my *buntu set up.
[00:25] <Telroth> I'm seeing performance issues below the filesystem level
[00:25] <Chwoka> first of all, i don't know if these partitions even exist yet or whether ubuntu will make them
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> manbra_linux: do you mean same image on 2 display devices?
[00:26] <Chwoka> second, i have no idea which one to pick
[00:26] <Telroth> the raid block device is performing at about 1/10th of it's normal speeds
[00:26] <SIFTU> Solved: hmm AMD?
[00:26] <Chwoka> third, when i click install now it tells me i need to pick a root or something
[00:26] <manbra_linux> ActionParsnip, yes
[00:26] <Solved> Chwoka: I'm in the same situation. You have to shrink your C: drive after you have used a program called "perfect disk 2k" in Windows
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ridz16: if the ,ax is 1Gb and there are 2 slots then it will prbably be 2 x 512Mb
[00:26] <edbian> ridz16: Only the newest intel i-series motherboard support dual or triple channel ram (I believe) so 1 1gb stick or 2 512Mb sticks will be about the same in everyway
[00:26] <Solved> SIFTU: Phenom II Quad-Core Mobile
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> manbra_linux: can you please add detail like that to your initial question, rather than us having to guess...
[00:27] <LocoenelCoco> hello, Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop is really slow browsing on the internet or even pingining sites like google takes too long (it takes 36791ms to  "ping -c 5 google.com"), i have gentoo installed on vmware in the same laptop and the internet is allright, any ideas?
[00:27] <SIFTU> Telroth: yeah I have never experienced that.. I first suspected a raid rebuild happening
[00:27] <DasEi> Chwoka: you need at least a root  and common is also a swap and maybe you want a seperate home
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> LocoenelCoco: what is the network chip?
[00:27] <qin> LocoenelCoco: ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> manbra_linux: what video chip do you use?
[00:27] <SIFTU> Solved: hmm then I'm not sure sorry
[00:27] <LocoenelCoco> ActionParsnip, Realtek 8187
[00:27] <Solved> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on my relatively fast, new laptop, but when I boot it from the CD (which the iso is correct), it freezes in the part where the white and orange dots below "ubuntu" move around. Any ideas?
[00:27] <manbra_linux> ActionParsnip, I'm sorry, yes.  I want to have one image going to the same monitor.  i have a nvidia 465 GTX
[00:28] <Chwoka> fourth and finally, the "change..." menu gives me a drop-down list of things to select and i can't tell which to use. there's "don't use" and then a bunc h of terms i'm not savvy enough to understand
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> manbra_linux: if you run:  nvidia-settings    you can configure that there
[00:28] <robin0800> ridz16, crucal have a very nice site that can scan your computer and advice about memory upgrades
[00:28] <DasEi> Chwoka: root is ext4 default swap swap oc and home also ext4, give swap a good double of your ram in size
[00:28] <ridz16> ActionParsnip, edbian, I was looking at power consumption and its around 2.5 volts,  would getting two 512mb doubles the power consumption to 5 volts?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> Solved: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[00:28] <manbra_linux> ActionParsnip, wqhere?
[00:28] <LocoenelCoco> qin, this address returns fast
[00:28] <edbian> ridz16: Ummm... yes?  I'm not sure.
[00:28] <manbra_linux> rather, were in nvidia settings?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> manbra_linux: its an app, it configures to proprietary driver for you
[00:29] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Yes, I did. The old one was bad, the new one is now good.
[00:29] <Telroth> SIFTU: First thing I chceked, but no luck. I've done updates and rebooted, but still haven't really gotten anywhere :/ Thanks for your help! I'm going to go try the ##linux channel
[00:29] <DasEi> Chwoka: is it a whole hd ? then why not use the automated installer ?
[00:29] <Willis420> solved had a similar issue on install myself, try booting from usb stick
[00:29] <Chwoka> DasEi: so use the gparted thing in ubuntu to do all this because i don't see all these options on the install screen
[00:29] <Telroth> LocoenelCoco: how long does it take to `nslookup google.com` ?
[00:29] <Telroth> Or, pick something you haven't tested recently, nslookup yahoo.com
[00:30] <DasEi> Chwoka: it depends from which medium you install, which iso did you pick ?
[00:30] <Solved> ActionParsnip: It worked at first, I was in the install, and then it froze. When I rebooted, it began to freeze during the loading, and has done the same thing every time I've tried since
[00:30] <Chwoka> i ammmmmmm but i don't want to overwrite windows in case this turns out not to be the right tactic
[00:30] <qin> LocoenelCoco: Change dns to public. vim /etc/resolv.conf; nameservers you can grab form google, <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:30] <Solved> Willis420: Hm, alright, I'll take that into consideration
[00:30] <LocoenelCoco> Telroth, its almost instantly
[00:30] <LocoenelCoco> qin, let me try that
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Solved: ok, what video chip are you using?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Solved: is it some hybrid video chip nonesense?
[00:31] <Chwoka> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[00:31] <DasEi> Chwoka: so you have win and now want a dualboot on the same hd ?
[00:31] <Chwoka> yes
[00:31] <Richiie> hi
[00:31] <Richiie> i have some questions to differences between /etc/rc3.d and rc.local
[00:31] <DasEi> Chwoka: size of the drive and free space left ?
[00:31] <Solved> ActionParsnip: I don't know..?
[00:31] <Richiie> i was just wondering, is it possible in rc3.d to add a custom bash script i want to execute at boot ?
[00:31] <Solved> ActionParsnip: How do I find that out in Windows?
[00:31] <Richiie> and if so.. do i have to rename it as like S22myscript
[00:32] <Solved> video chip
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> LocoenelCoco: if the google DNS makes things faster then you can use this to apply the setting permanently: http://code.google.com/intl/zh-TW/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[00:32] <Richiie> the init sys v traditional way.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Solved: device manager
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Richiie: yes absolutely
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> !boot | Richiie
[00:33] <Richiie> okay but what are the differences then ? is it that rc.local executes script as soon as the rc.X (X = any number 1-6) finishes ?
[00:33] <Solved> ActionParsnip: In "Imaging devices"?
[00:34] <Chwoka> DasEi: where can i find that
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Solved: display adapters
[00:34] <Solved> AMD M88OG with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Solved: ok then add the boot option: nomodeset
[00:35] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Oof. I have no idea how to do that :/
[00:36] <LocoenelCoco> qin, ActionParsnip , browsing is pretty faster now, ty
[00:37] <LocoenelCoco> pinging google still takes long tough thats weird
[00:37] <Chwoka> mm, found it. 160 gb hard disk with... 6.2 gb left?!?! christ no wonder this thing was sucking shit until the day it died
[00:37] <Solved> ActionParsnip: How do i add a boot option?
[00:38] <edbian> Chwoka: having a full hdd does not slow performance
[00:38] <DasEi1> edbian: it does, especially when fragmented
[00:39] <edbian> Chwoka: So long as the hdd is not 98% > full and you're using a linux file system :)
[00:39] <itguru> psingh: I'm looking into the thunderbird export, and I think I'm having a dumb moment ...
[00:40] <Chwoka> so get into windows and defragment?
[00:40] <Chwoka> then try again?
[00:40] <edbian> Chwoka: Is this an ntfs partition?
[00:40] <LocoenelCoco> by the way network-manager overwrites changes made into /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:40] <DasEi1> Chwoka: well , with 6gb there wouldn't be much fun
[00:40] <Chwoka> well i do have 100 gb of fallback harddrive i could install
[00:41] <Chwoka> edbian: one of them is the other is fat32
[00:41] <DasEi1> Chwoka: much easier then, use the autopartitioner of ubuntu, install to the 100g and add win to its bootloader, boot from that disk
[00:42] <juboba> hey
[00:42] <Chwoka> boot from what disc
[00:42] <Chwoka> ?
[00:42] <edbian> Chwoka: de-fragment using windows.  I don't think you can defrag fat
[00:42] <juboba> Where can I get info on ubuntu on HP Pavilion DM1??
[00:43] <DasEi1> Chwoka: didn't you say you add an additional free 100g disk ?
[00:43] <Chwoka> yes
[00:43] <DasEi1> that disk then
[00:43] <juboba> I need help configuring the touchpad and my ati video card
[00:43] <dr_willis> juboba: the forums or askubuntu.com
[00:44] <DasEi1> !synaptics | juboba
[00:44] <Chwoka> okay
[00:44] <Solved> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Solved
[00:44] <Solved> I'll try that
[00:45] <Solved> thanks for the help
[00:45] <Chwoka> i'll try that
[00:45] <silvertip257> I'm trying to add print ranges in OO Calc 3.2.0 (running 10.04 LTS).  I've selected the rows+columns, but I get an error about Invalid Sheet Ref.  My procedure works on a Windows machine with OO Calc 3.2.0.
[00:46] <Chwoka> thanks for the help
[00:46] <meterpreter10> !doesntwork
[00:46] <Pcd2> LOL
[00:47] <silvertip257> if that's to me, I'm being specific
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> sysadamin: please don't away like that
[00:53] <silvertip257> it's a bug with print ranges ... OO Calc solution here:  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502641#c12
[00:53] <jb0nd38372> How can I get to where I change screensavers at in Ubuntu 11.04, i'm running the latest beta, I can see where to set the screen lock time but not screensaver preferences.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> jb0nd38372: 11.04 isn't beta. Do you mean Oneiric?
[00:54] <jb0nd38372> yes ActionParsnip , sorry, thats what i'm running
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> jb0nd38372: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything Oneiric based until release day.
[00:54] <jb0nd38372> oh ok thanks
[00:55] <juboba> Where can I get info on ubuntu on HP Pavilion DM1??
[00:55] <juboba> I need help configuring the touchpad and my ati video card
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> juboba: what does the touchpad do/not do
[00:56] <Fudge> how can i tell what ppa a package belongs to
[00:56] <soreau> juboba: The radeon card should be working already
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: apt-cache policy packagename
[00:57] <Fudge> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:57] <mipsLE_> I'm having trouble upgrading a system from maverick to natty
[00:58] <mipsLE_> I'm running do-release-upgrade
[00:58] <mipsLE_> but it claims there's nothing to upgrade to
[00:59] <mipsLE_> my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file says 'Prompt=normal'
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: if you run:  cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep -i prompt    what is output?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: ha beat me to it
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: ok, run: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core     is it already installed?
[01:00] <mipsLE_> claims it's at the newest version
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: hmm weird. Is: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     smooth?
[01:01] <mipsLE_> yeah, nothing to report, nothing to upgrade
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: could try using the alternate ISO and upgrade using taht
[01:01] <mipsLE_> hey, that's a good idea
[01:02] <mipsLE_> I'm always trying to avoid burning another DVD, perhaps I'm over zealus ;-)
[01:03] <mipsLE_> do-release-upgrade -d offers me oneric, but I'm not feeling that adventurous today, that's what my spare laptop is for ;-)
[01:04] <Mr9x> ops.lie
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: you can mount the ISO, no need to burn anything
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: remember to MD5 test the ISO too
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> juboba: you asleep dude?
[01:05] <y0gu> hey
[01:05] <mipsLE_> Thanks Action Parsnip, you
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> mipsLE_: np man
[01:05] <mipsLE_> you da man/tuber!
[01:08] <berk> how to escape a comma in bash?
[01:08] <SIFTU> berk: \,
[01:10] <berk> mplayer cant read a path with commas
[01:11] <mordof> how do i find out what controller my keyboard is using? a game is looping on /dev/input/event1-5 and saying no input controllers found
[01:11] <mordof> i'm wondering if i can find my keyboard controller and symlink it to one of those or something.. lol
[01:15] <ion_> how shall I fix my update maneger?
[01:15] <ion_> ?
[01:16] <mordof> how do i find out what controller my keyboard is using? a game is looping on /dev/input/event1-5 and saying no input controllers found
[01:16] <mordof> found out actually my keyboard is on /dev/input/event4 - but a program isn't finding it on there
[01:20] <RyuGuns1> !info openshot
[01:24] <ion_> my update manager is broke how can I fix it ?
[01:24] <kermit1> how do i make ubuntu not require i plug in a keyboard and press "S" whenever it cant mount a drive in fstab?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> beatbreaker: sorry, wrong target
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> ion_: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    be sure synaptic is closed
[01:27] <pitlimit> Can anyone refer me to a very good client to interface with s3?
[01:28] <ion_> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package upgrade
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> ion_: can you give the full output please
[01:29] <bastidrazor> ion_: you're using sudo apt-get install "upgrade"??  that is silly
[01:30] <pitlimit> hm... anyone?
[01:30] <bastidrazor> pitlimit: s3 is vague to those who don't use it.
[01:30] <pitlimit> S3... amazon?
[01:31] <pitlimit> I thought everyone uses s3 :)
[01:31] <somsip> pitlimit: I used dragondisk on and off for a while.
[01:31] <pitlimit> did you like it somsip
[01:31] <Owner> ping
[01:31] <skel> spideroak ftw
[01:32] <somsip> somsip: ok - have to admit not as nice as Win32 CloudBerry but it's better than web inerface if you have a lot to do
[01:32] <ion_> ActionParsnip: paste.ubuntu.com/702009/
[01:32] <somsip> somsip: of s3cmd is probably the quickest
[01:32] <Owner> sorry, just checking if this is working? respond
[01:32] <somsip> Owner: ping
[01:32] <Owner> ty
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> ion_: I didn't say to run that, did I
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> ion_: read the command I gave, then read what you ran
[01:34] <ion_> ActionParsnip: paste.ubuntu.com/702011/
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> ion_: ok and the output of:  lsb_release -a
[01:34] <ion_> ActionParsnip: but that's what I'm seeing does't work...
[01:35] <slim> matrix
[01:35] <quint> so, im using audacity. how can i remove an effect from a track after i've applied one?
[01:36] <tjiggi_fo> quint, Ctrl-Z
[01:36] <ion_> ActionParsnip: paste.ubuntu.com/702012/
[01:36] <slim> were am i  i think i am lost?
[01:37] <bastidrazor> slim: type /topic
[01:37] <quint> using the undo command is the only way to remove an effect? there is no alternate way to remove an effect long after it's applied?
[01:37] <slim> topic
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> ion_: ok, all is fine, packages get held back if the deps are not met, once it is satisfied, it will download and install. Other packages will install and updates will install just fine too
[01:38] <quint> anyone have any suggestions for some software that might be better than audacity
[01:38] <quint> ?
[01:38] <ion_> ActionParsnip: Yeah but I can't not isntall some packages that I have here ..that supposed  to be installed ..
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> quint: a few named here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ion_: double negative there dude...
[01:39] <tjiggi_fo> quint, if you saved it as an .aup your undo history is saved too
[01:39] <slim> I am new is this really happenning
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ion_: are you missing some packages?
[01:39] <quint> thanks action
[01:40] <ion_> ActionParsnip: yeah I do but you know what ...now is installing..man I don't understand really
[01:40] <quint> i'd rather not remove all of the effects applied after the one i need removed. is there a list of things i can have to choose a specific action to undo?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> ion_: sudo apt-get update probably did it
[01:41] <ion_> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much that's all I have to say ...
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> ion_: np man :)
[01:42] <awolfey> Is ubuntu one on topic here?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> awolfey: sure
[01:43] <awolfey> Great. I have a u1conflict file. I can't rename it, cp it, delete and the recreate it. How can I get U1 off my back?
[01:44] <awolfey> It went into conflict while I was working on the file. The file with the original name is gone.
[01:44] <awolfey> Leaving me unable to work.
[01:45] <slim> Hello please help me by letting me know if this is some prgrame i turned on that is running or this is live chatt  just fixed old compacq and just trying new  gear to me ubuntu 10.0 so please respond if this is really happenning i am new :)
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> slim: you are using an irc client, if that's what you mean?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> slim: it is a live chate with real people and about 3 bots
[01:46] <slim> wow thank you a resonce wow its working
[01:46] <aeon-ltd> slim: dude, less fragmentation next time; clarity helps (apologies if english is not your first language)
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> slim: looks that way :)
[01:47] <slim> nope typ os
[01:48] <slim> wow i thought this old compaq was toast   thanks to ubuntu  its still got a chance
[01:50] <slim> Very new and from B.C anyone care..??
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> slim: totally. Linux distros in the various forms can make old systems usable
[01:51] <slim> ya I like it thanks for responding
[01:52] <slim> thanks ActionParsnip for responding
[01:54] <DasEi> slim: specs of that compaq ?
[01:54] <deadpool> if I downloaded a program that I was able to unzip on the desktop and when I double click on the name icon the program starts good, but I wanted to get to get pinned down to the launcher sidebar to the left
[01:54] <slim> armada e-500
[01:54] <deadpool> but when I  pinned it down and clicked on it , it doesnt open
[01:55] <slim> DasEi armada e500
[01:55] <DasEi> Notebook Pentium3 1.0GHz TFT 15.0 256MB 30GB , good candidate for lubuntu
[01:55] <bkfitz> anyone know what postgresql uses udp ports for?  when I run sockstat, i see the regular 5432 tcp port open, but i also see 5-6 processes with udp port 38932 open
[01:55] <Nicolas_Leonida2> Hey I'm trying to add a cron job to the system that runs every 30 minutes, I've done sudo crontab -e
[01:55] <Nicolas_Leonida2> and I've added this line 0,30 * * * * cronscript
[01:55] <Nicolas_Leonida2> that's enough right?
[01:56] <DasEi> Nicolas_Leonida2: yes
[01:56] <slim> DasEi ya thats it not very fast at typing and this is all very new to me
[01:57] <Lucifer9999> I'm somewhat confused about the purpose of Wubi. I want to do a dual-boot, not a virtual machine. Can wubi do that? I already have the disk partitioned the way I want
[01:57] <DasEi> slim: there are different surfaces with the same core, lubuntu is designed for weaker boxer (smoother experience, less memory consumption, batterlife increased
[01:58] <DasEi> boxes*
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: do you have a desktop UI, or is it on a server?
[01:58] <somsip> Lucifer9999: no - do a full install, don't use Wubi for that
[01:58] <DasEi> Lucifer9999: I prefer dualboot over wubi
[01:59] <Micheal`> i will 3rd that
[01:59] <Micheal`> 4th and 5th it too
[01:59] <Lucifer9999> yeah. ok, so do I just use the usb thingie? I want to do a usb install
[01:59] <Lucifer9999> because my computer doesn't have a dvd burner
[01:59] <Micheal`> you can
[01:59] <DasEi> Lucifer9999: good call
[01:59] <Micheal`> works well done it countless times my self
[02:00] <slim> DasEi: thanks  i think  not to com inclind   getting there slowly
[02:00] <quasar_> word
[02:00] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ActionParsnip: server
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: ahh, there is a gui app called gnome-schedule you could of run if you had a desktop ui
[02:01] <Tohuw> Where can I view a complete list of packages selected in a given desktop install? (e.g., see all packages installed in 11.04 x86 desktop)
[02:01] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ActionParsnip: right
[02:02] <somsip> Nicolas_Leonida2: or "*/30 * * * * cronscript"
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Nicolas_Leonida2: http://adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference
[02:03] <sindile> just upgraded to oneiric and my other repositories have disabled on upgrade to oneiric
[02:03] <sindile> how do i change this
[02:04] <xangua> !oneiric | sindile
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> sindile: #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric tl release day please
[02:04] <jose08> cat > file <<eof
[02:04] <jose08> aa | bb  |cc | dd | ee | ff | gg
[02:04] <jose08> aa | bb | cc | dd | ee | ff | gg
[02:04] <jose08> xx | yy | zz | ww | vv | kk | mm
[02:04] <jose08> eof
[02:04] <FloodBot1> jose08: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <jose08> awk -F'|' '{print $1 $3 }' file #(shows 1st and 3th field)
[02:05] <jose08> FloodBot1: sorry
[02:07] <jose08> any help for this? http://pastebin.com/5er8Tx39
[02:16] <HedgeMage> Hey, all.  I'm an experienced Linux user, and I'm trying to teach a total newbie some Ubuntu basics via VNC as he's not quite 100% CLI-ready yet (we're getting there).  He doesn't control the NAT he's behind.  Port 22 is forwarded to his machine, but nothing else.  AFAIK vino can't be made to listen on anything other than 5900 (if it can please correct me).  I'm considering trying to help him
[02:17] <HedgeMage> configure it so I can connect via an SSH tunnel, but that's so far over his head it would be an onerous undertaking.  We could use IPtables to locally forward port 22 to port 5900, but that sounds equally hard to talk him through.	Is there an easier-for-newbies way to solve this problem (I don't care if it's easy for me, I know what I'm doing and control my own network)?
[02:18] <DasEi> HedgeMage: google teamspeak
[02:20] <somsip> HedgeMage: not what your asking, but would Skype share screen be of use? Or Teamviewer, if that can be set to use non-standard port?
[02:20] <DasEi> HedgeMage: or ssh -X, iff 22 is already free
[02:20] <idefix> is debian better than ubuntu?
[02:20] <nac-godfather> Anyone know if it's possible to pair a different model wireless keyboard receiver to another wireless keyboard?
[02:20] <bkfitz> HedgeMage: ufw?
[02:20] <xangua> idefix: depends of your needs and this is not the channel for that ;) stick to the topic please
[02:21] <idefix> when I hover over my Floopy Disk in nautilus it says "Mount and open Floppy Drive" however when I click or double click it nothing happens, what's wrong?
[02:21] <DasEi> err, http://tinyurl.com/6knqrv2 ,HedgeMage
[02:21] <nac-godfather> I friggen had my cool wireless keyboard shit the bed when I plugged in the reciever and it sparked.  Supposedly causing a power circuit to be switched off/on.  They say it can be fixed by doing a full reset/cmos reset, but I don't know...
[02:23] <sammy> can anyone suggest a good wireless scanner? I'm trying to choose a channel for a new wifi router and I'd like to see what channels are already saturated around here...
[02:24] <bkfitz> sammy: iwscanner
[02:24] <g0rs> sammy: there is a wifi radar ?!
[02:24] <g0rs> sammy: you'd find several
[02:24] <sammy> bkfitz: all I saw was a 3rd party package for iwscanner, and I don't like installing 3rd party packages without reviewing the code. good suggestion, though, that's the first one I found, too.
[02:25] <idefix> just because I'm old doesn't mean I can't still use floppy disks...
[02:25] <g0rs> idefix: what do you mean?
[02:25] <idefix> it seems nobody wants to help a weirdo who still uses floppy disks in 2011
[02:26] <g0rs> idefix: what about them? are you unable to mount a floppy drive?
[02:26] <idefix> yes
[02:26] <idefix> it's not possible in nautilus
[02:26] <nac-godfather> sammy, use airodump-ng, from aircrack-ng
[02:26] <g0rs> idefix: i stopped using them around 2002
[02:26] <nac-godfather> works great
[02:26] <nac-godfather> or wicd
[02:26] <bkfitz> sammy: source is in the download... i trust it and it works great
[02:26] <PxGaZuZ> hey everyone
[02:26] <idefix> I guess getting myself a USB stick wouldn't hurt
[02:26] <idefix> but for now
[02:27] <g0rs> sammy: aircrack and airdump are good for hacking too although their driver support is limited unless you are using atheros
[02:27] <nac-godfather> or you could simply use "iwlist <interface> scan" and then grep your results to your liking
[02:27] <PxGaZuZ> can anyone help me figure out how to create some space so i can dual boot?
[02:27] <g0rs> idefix: usb had replaced floppy disks
[02:27] <PxGaZuZ> heres an image i get from gparted
[02:27] <PxGaZuZ> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/screenshotdevsdagpartedo.png/
[02:27] <OerHeks> idefix >   sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t vfat   ( found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount  )
[02:27] <bkfitz> sammy: how about kismet
[02:27] <idefix> bedankt
[02:27] <idefix> oerheks
[02:28] <nac-godfather> anyone know how I can reset a probably power circuit breaker that was blown from ESD on my keyboard receiver.
[02:28] <manbra_linux> hey.  i want to play a game with a friend on hte same computer.  I'm thinking i could have two Xs, one for eahc monitor.  can i 'bind' a mouse and keyboard to each x?
[02:28] <idefix> how do you get out of the man mount command?!
[02:28] <nac-godfather> dmesg gives this when plugging in my keyboard receiver:  new full speed USB device number 19 using ohci_hcd    device not accepting address 19, error -62
[02:29] <DasEi> idefix: press q
[02:29] <slim> wow weird things happening to my computer. total off line frozen for awile  But who cares..
[02:29] <deadpool> hey I donwloaded eclipse but it came from a folder how do I open it with sudo
[02:29] <amin`>  I am following http://tech2day.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/howtoconfigure-mutt-for-gmail-imap/ to set gmail and I get this error Error in /home/amin/.muttrc, line 5: Mail”: unknown variable  source: errors in /home/amin/.muttrc  Press any key to continue...   any idea what is it about and after  press key the login failed is shown
[02:29] <PxGaZuZ>  can anyone help me figure out how to create some space so i can dual boot?
[02:30] <PxGaZuZ> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/screenshotdevsdagpartedo.png/
[02:30] <sammy> bkfitz: thanks, I was hoping there was something already in a repo. kismet is what I used years ago but its configuration is more than I need. i was really hoping for something a bit more simple.
[02:30] <bkfitz> sammy: yep... it's called iwscanner ;)
[02:30] <sammy> g0rs: I think I am actually using an atheros card, I'll look into aircrack.
[02:30] <sammy> bkfitz: ha :P I'm just always so skeptical of projects that have been around for a while but have no official debian package
[02:31] <PxGaZuZ> no help eh? fine....
[02:31] <g0rs> sammy: it might need some work too although if you are debian its much easier as there are deb packages
[02:31] <Nicolas_Leonida2> ok my cron is definitely not working on time, are there logs I could see why?
[02:32] <idefix> oerheks are you sure floppy disks are vfat?
[02:32] <g0rs> idefix: floppy disks usually have fat12
[02:32] <philipballew> can i open a document made with pages in ubuntu
[02:33] <bkfitz> sammy: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-834947.html
[02:33] <g0rs> idefix: on linux im not really sure , probably you can format them with ext2
[02:34] <sammy> bkfitz: sorry, don't get me wrong, I end up installing things without reviewed packages a lot, I was just being lazy and hoping there was a more simple scanner in the repos. thanks for the suggestions, g0rs and nac-godfather
[02:34] <sammy> I'll use iwscanner. maybe I'll nominate it for a getdebs package.
[02:35] <bkfitz> sammy: yeah... i understand.  Looks like this one is pretty vetted though... not sure why ubuntu hasn't packaged it or at least auth'd it
[02:35] <nac-godfather> build from source, always :)
[02:35] <g0rs> sammy: you might try wifi radar . I'm not really sure about the name
[02:35] <idefix> I guess OerHeks is part of the Wicca trying to screw things up for all non-wiccans
[02:35] <g0rs> sammy: it lists diferent wlans and their channels
[02:35] <sammy> g0rs: i saw you mention that but I didnt know what you meant
[02:35] <idefix> are you, OerHeks?
[02:36] <OerHeks> idefix, blaim the wiki, nobody uses FD here
[02:37] <qin> jose08? http://paste.ubuntu.com/702025/
[02:40] <webgirl> how do you give yourself full permission to the lamp server
[02:41] <g0rs> !seen winut
[02:41] <webgirl> every time I try to make a change or save anything I get permission denied
[02:42] <bastidrazor> webgirl: how are you trying to make changes?
[02:42] <michael123455> i am moving a lot of 5gb files(2.5 tb) over to my media server. I am using all 1000mbit networking gear(cards and all) and my server has raid 5(3x WD 2tb green). I am only getting avg. 6MB/s. Is this normal? I am using rsync over ssh(made the most sense to me to connect this way as it is what i'm used to)
[02:42] <qin> webgirl: You could add yourself to www-data group and chmod /var/www acordingly.
[02:43] <webgirl> how do I do that, I have eclipse and I want to edit files from the www folder
[02:43] <webgirl> but I can't
[02:43] <webgirl> edit, save and all that stuff in there
[02:44] <qin> webgirl: Try: sudo adduser `whoami` www-data
[02:45] <webgirl> where it says whoami I put my name? qin
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> webgirl: run the command as given and it will work
[02:46] <qin> webgirl: Sure, or use `` for command substitution
[02:46] <bonez2046> how can I test my sound? It worked yesterday , today not.. is it a module that may have failed?
[02:46] <webgirl> oh yeah it did work thanks
[02:47] <webgirl> one last question, if I downloaded eclipse and it is on a folder, is there any way I can dock it to the left sidebar?
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> bonez2046: a good first move is:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    then wait 10 seconds for pulse to start back up
[02:47] <bonez2046> ActionParsnip: ok..
[02:47] <qin> webgirl: man chmod; you need to know how to chmod your files (sometimes)...
[02:48] <qin> webgirl: (non supportive) ditch eclipe, use vim.
[02:48] <jamescarr_> how can I get rid of unity!?
[02:48] <jamescarr_> I am sick of it
[02:48] <jamescarr_> it is really bad
[02:48] <jamescarr_> it ate my gvim menubar
[02:48] <qin> !classic | jamescarr_
[02:48] <jamescarr_> I cant get anything done with no gvim menubar
[02:48] <qin> !enter > jamescarr_
[02:48] <pitlimit> Can anyone tell me the best vpn option for ubuntu?
[02:49] <jamescarr_> !enter > qin
[02:49] <dr_willis> thats the global menu. not unity
[02:49] <jamescarr_> dr_willis, can I get rid of it?
[02:49] <jamescarr_> it is driving me insane
[02:49] <dr_willis> jamescarr_:  of course
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: log into ubuntu classic session
[02:49] <jamescarr_> no gvim toolbar menu == much pain
[02:50] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog tells how
[02:50] <bonez2046> ActionParsnip: I ran those both... if I kill pulseaudio, what starts it back up?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: unity2D replaces ubuntu classic in oneiric, so you may want to switch to xfce
[02:50] <jamescarr_> ActionParsnip, xfce!? No way!
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> bonez2046: its a setting in gnome, it is a required item so is autostarted
[02:50] <jamescarr_> ActionParsnip, xfce is good if I was running a 386sx :)
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: gnome in ubuntu will be purely unity based in futire releases
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: its a fine desktop, looks and smells like gnome2 as well
[02:51] <jamescarr_> ah, just looked at the site, it's changed
[02:52] <jamescarr_> it used to be the well known, lightweight "looks like 1998" window manager ;)
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: its a DE, not a WM
[02:52] <jamescarr_> I see, it used to be a WM though
[02:53] <michael123455> i am moving a lot of 5gb files(2.5 tb) over to my media server. I am using all 1000mbit networking gear(cards and all) and my server has raid 5(3x WD 2tb green). I am only getting avg. 6MB/s. Is this normal? I am using rsync over ssh(made the most sense to me to connect this way as it is what i'm used to)
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: xfce has never been a WM, it uses Xfwm as its WM
[02:53] <jamescarr_> ah
[02:54] <jamescarr_> is there a chance that unity will fix what it did to gvim?
[02:54] <slipttees> hi all, have ubuntu one client for Mac OS X ?
[02:54] <jamescarr_> granted, I like it, it's just annoying that it mangled gvim to the point that it just doesn't work
[02:55] <xangua> slipttees: no, just for windows and android that i know
[02:55] <xangua> and ubuntu of course :P
[02:55] <Otend> Does anyone know how to get the fan working on a Satellite L305D-series lappy?
[02:55] <slipttees> xangua, windows, virus on ubuntu one, oww no :(
[02:56] <Otend> I mean, I'm underclocking a bit and I am still running 77 C.
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> slipttees: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/hands-on-new-ubuntu-one-cloud-storage-client-for-windows.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss   published today states: ack of a Mac OS X client   so I'm guessing not
[02:56] <slipttees> ActionParsnip, :D
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: then use ubuntu classic and the desktop will look like maverick did
[02:57] <jamescarr_> ActionParsnip, thanks, I got that... just asking if the gvim problem is a known issue?
[02:57] <Otend> I will take that as a no :<
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr_: could report a bug
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> Otend: well done, you waited all of 3 mins
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> Otend: got patience?
[02:58] <Otend> sorry
[02:59] <Otend> not exactly in a good mood today; should not have rubbed that off on you guys.  again, sorry
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> its cool :)
[03:08] <robin0800> Otend, is the fan running perhaps its failed or very dirty and not working well
[03:09] <Otend> It works perfectly fine in Vista.
[03:11] <slim> hello
[03:11] <slim> anyone out there
[03:11] <g0rs> slim: hi
[03:11] <firmevato> I'm pretty out there.
[03:12] <firmevato> and fittin' to go further
[03:12] <firmevato> time for some bong hits, bro.
[03:12] <DasEi> slim: a 1443 currently
[03:13] <Willis420> Otend;i have a satellite L655-S5096 on 11.04 and the fan works great
[03:13] <g0rs> firmevato: does google track everybody and record everybody's activiies and sell them to marketing companies?
[03:13] <Otend> Maybe it's just this series.
[03:13] <Gasseus> Is there an audio compressor that compresses my audio while keeping the audio tags?
[03:14] <Willis420> Otend; have you tried other versions?
[03:14] <g0rs> firmevato: its like all consumers ( people) are like cattle to these big companies and they are using or misuing their information for profit or abuse
[03:14] <Otend> Other versions of Ubuntu?
[03:14] <Willis420> yes
[03:14] <robin0800> Otend, install psensor to see what's going on
[03:14] <Otend> No.  However, this has apparently been a problem with many for several years.
[03:14] <Otend> okay, about to install
[03:14] <somsip> Gasseus: please stop goading the stoners
[03:15] <somsip> Gasseus: aplogoies - meant for g0rs
[03:15] <g0rs> thanks somsip, apparent you are one of those cattle too
[03:15] <Gasseus> Don't worry, I'll deal with him.
[03:15] <somsip> Gasseus: thanks
[03:16] <firmevato> g0rs, yeah totally, bro.
[03:16] <w0_> hollo.  I'm running 11.04, and when I use ctrl-alt-<num_key> I reposition my windows.  way cool!  however when I press alt-tab the 'alt-tab' window menu thing runs in the [visual] background .. anyone know what's going on?? -- much thx!!
[03:16] <g0rs> Gasseus: i don't blog nor do i read any of other's blogs unless they are really interesting
[03:17] <g0rs> Gasseus: don't have time to read blogs :/
[03:19] <Gasseus> Is there any way to convert my MP3's to 128 bit while preserving the proper tagging?
[03:19] <zmbmartin> I just installed 11.10 beta 2 on my HP Envy 17 the clickpad support is not so good any help or recommendations? I tried a few tutorials but they didn't work and read that it should be provided out of the box in 11.04 and 11.10?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> zmbmartin: ask in #ubuntu+1 for anything oneiric based
[03:20] <Gasseus> zmbmartin do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, its a known issue
[03:20] <ZeloZelos> i need help fixing grub. i used ubuntu tweak to remove what i thought was all the old grubs ;(
[03:21] <DasEi> !grub
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: oh boy. What did you do and what do you now have?
[03:21] <zmbmartin> Gasseus: I am all up to date
[03:21] <zmbmartin> ActionParsnip: What room should I ask in?
[03:21] <Gasseus> zmbmartin use the .gov repositories.
[03:21] <Gasseus> It just got fixed like an hour ago
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> oops
[03:21] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i only have vista, the drive has win 8 and ubuntu 11
[03:21] <nixjr> will western digital 3tb hdds work with ubuntu 10.10?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> zmbmartin: #ubuntu+1
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: should do
[03:21] <Gasseus> nixjr Any hard disk will work up to 16 TB in size
[03:22] <nixjr> i heard somehting about a 2.2tb limit somewhere
[03:22] <Gasseus> Will it work with your bios is the real question
[03:22] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i tried the grub stuff from the links but i guess i messed up
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: no, what kernels do you have now?
[03:22] <Gasseus> and the limit is 4 tb
[03:22] <zmbmartin> Gasseus: how do I switch to the .gov repos. Still trying to feel my way around ubuntu?
[03:22] <Gasseus> zmbmartin install synaptic and use its tools.
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> zmbmartin: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:22] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, oh, its 2.6.32-34 i think
[03:23] <nixjr> Gasseus, ah, any sort of rough date that mobo made post that date will work?
[03:23] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i already baqckuped the stuff on the drive i needed
[03:23] <Gasseus> nixjr What key do you use to get into the boot menu?
[03:23] <Otend> okay, psensor is showing nothing useful
[03:23] <Otend> other than current temp
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: so, where is the issue?
[03:24] <Gasseus> ZeloZelos Try running grub-install and update-grub
[03:25] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, the ubuntu lines arent there when grub starts, just memtest's and vista
[03:25] <nixjr> Gasseus, lol i dont recall, its f1, or del, is an asus P5Q series
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: boot to liveCD and chroot to the installed ubuntu OS and run:  sudo update-grub
[03:25] <Gasseus> nixjr You need a separate boot disk then.
[03:26] <Gasseus> ZeloZelos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:26] <nixjr> even if i only intend on using the 3tb as a data drive and not booting off it?
[03:26] <Gasseus> nixjr if you're not booting off it, you're fine
[03:26] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, perhaps if i hit e and change the vista line to load ubuntu, then use update grub n stuf that way?
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: if you are able to, why not :)
[03:26] <nixjr> Gasseus, awesome, thanks for the info
[03:26] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i did something similar a while ago and enede up reinstalling my entire hd im afaraid to do it agin
[03:27] <Gasseus> nixjr no problem.
[03:27] <Gasseus> ZeloZelos Check this artical: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:27] <Otend> one sec, trying something...
[03:27] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, thats the exact page i used
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: if you are conversant with grub then go for it :). I don't advise 3rd party apps to remove something as fundamental as kernels
[03:28] <w0_> why is alt-tab not working?
[03:28] <bjoswald83> Ubuntu Tweak seems safe enough to use
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> bjoswald83: its a simple process to do manually, no risk then
[03:28] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i need a demo setup, i think i can figure out what the hd partition name is n all
[03:28] <bjoswald83> I haven't had any issues removing old kernels with it but I'll take expert advice anytime :)
[03:29] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, the chroot method was also one of the ways i was unsuccessfull
[03:29] <g0rs> {-_-} : hi
[03:29] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, i kinda need a plug n fix method, cept if i can get the os to boot i think i may be able to fix that way
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: all I can recommend is boot to liveCD and chroot
[03:30] <DasEi> ZeloZelos: use subergrubdisk then
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> ZeloZelos: i'm not conversant with grub as I single boot
[03:30] <DasEi> super*
[03:30] <samsul> is there anyone can help me to seed this file ? http://www.torrents.net/torrent/1678111/ultimate-edition-3.0-gamers.iso/
[03:30] <Gasseus> samsul This channel is for stuff that is legal.
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> samsul: ultimate is offtopic here
[03:31] <samsul> sorry..
[03:31] <bjoswald83> Ultimate what?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: it is legal, ultimate gamer edition is a rehashed ubuntu with lots of free games on
[03:31] <bjoswald83> Oh, I thought it was an illegal copy of Windows ;)
[03:31] <ZeloZelos> ActionParsnip, your prob right, it may go better this time, last time i messed it all up because i installed ubuntu to a micro sd on a flash adaptor, and when it installed grub it started an entire chaine of crap
[03:31] <nixjr> bjoswald83, thats what im wondering too
[03:31] <Gasseus> ActionParsnip Oh, my bad. I saw torrents and thought that immediately.
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: not this time
[03:32] <ZeloZelos> thanks guys for the suggestions
[03:32] <samsul> just because i'm downloading this file for a week...
[03:32] <samsul> but never finish...
[03:32] <nixjr> bjoswald83, http://ultimateedition.info/
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Gasseus: http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-gamers/   list of games which come pre-installed there
[03:33] <bjoswald83> Ah, ok, thanks
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate | samsul
[03:33] <zromayn> hi, I just installed dhcp3-server in my ubuntu 11.04 server. however, i don't think is even working.
[03:34] <Gasseus> zromayn May I ask what you need dhcp3-server for?
[03:34] <samsul> Ok, thanks all..
[03:34] <Gasseus> zromayn for most (99%) of purposes that one would think its necessary it isn't.
[03:35] <zromayn> Gasseus, well, as far as I know I need to assign IP addresses to my home network
[03:35] <Rota> hellow
[03:35] <mediapc> running an nvidia card with current driver on ubuntu 11.04 and my screen is too big for the screen. my screen is getting the video signal from the video card through hdmi.  I don't understand your question.
[03:35] <Gasseus> zromayn #ubuntu-server, tho you may want to look at a dedicated firewall distribution.
[03:36] <mediapc> zromayn: try pfsense
[03:36] <whodafck> how is everyone?
[03:36] <g0rs> mediapc: have you connected a hdtv to your nvidia video card?
[03:37] <Gasseus> zromayn tho if its for a household, setting static IP's that don't conflict is 100% easier then setting up a dhcp server.
[03:37] <mediapc> g0rs:  yes
[03:37] <Rota> i cannot access chat from my friend using the linux mint . ihave already downloaded the linux version
[03:37] <qin> bambanx: Which version? 1.2 1.3?
[03:37] <g0rs> mediapc: is everything working out ? are you able to display 1080p on your screen?
[03:38] <qin> bambanx: sudo apt-get purge wine<TAB> also remove ~/.wine
[03:38] <mediapc> looks like it was working. The new experimental drivers gave me no sound. the current nvidia drivers give me sound but the screen is cut off
[03:38] <zromayn> Gasseus, I want to know how to set up a dhcp server so I'm using my home LAN as a lab.
[03:39] <bambanx> qin when i pres tab i see this wine1.3-gecko  wine-bin       winetricks
[03:39] <Rota> 1.3 version
[03:39] <Gasseus> zromayn Really, running a DHCP server separate from your router is overkill.
[03:39] <bambanx> qin buddy
[03:39] <mediapc> g0rs: I do get 1080i (tv is 1080i) but when I make a movie full screen the edges go outside of the viewable area
[03:39] <g0rs> mediapc: very interesting. I wanted to try something like that but postponed it for a while. I wanted to hook up a tv to a computer through wlan because i usually dont use so much bandwidth on my wlan router
[03:40] <qin> bambanx: Remove all or them. sudo apt-get purge wine1.3 wine1.3-gecko winetricks
[03:40] <zromayn> Gasseus, have you setup dhcp3 in ubuntu server before? If so, can you help me set it up correctly?
[03:40] <qin> bambanx: And: rm -r ~/.wine (please carefull)
[03:40] <bambanx> qin  /usr/share/wine/gecko' say me it snot empy and i cannot unistall
[03:40] <slim> Hello I am new and am running an old compaq armada e500 using ubuntu 10.0 and barely know how to run it. I am having troubles running flash. Can someone please help Me .???..Oh and I am a newbie...
[03:41] <cakeb0ss> zromayn how many computers? and why isnt simply using a router with the dhcp server enabled sufficient?
[03:41] <Gasseus> zromayn I've tried, its nearly impossible, and its overkill, unless you need it for some hyper-special purpose that is non-existant.
[03:41] <mediapc> Im able to stream video from the linksys e4200 router (usb drive) no problem with linux. sucks I cant see it very well in HDMI
[03:41] <Gasseus> Your router will do a better job at assigning IP's which you can use.
[03:42] <bambanx> qin what cani do buddy?
[03:42] <qin> bambanx: You can remove it later, after: dpkg -l wine1.3-gecko will return that there is not package.
[03:42] <ZeloZelos> slim did you try the software center? type flash in the search box it should show up
[03:42] <akston> @slim - Open the Ubuntu SW Centre from the gnome menu, type 'flash' into the search box - you'll find a package called Adobe Flash Plugin (Installer for the Adobe Flash Plugin)
[03:42] <qin> bambanx: Or try: sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:43] <akston> @slim It's kind of like an 'app store'
[03:44] <bambanx> qin  sudo apt-get purge wine1.3-gecko
[03:44] <bambanx>  this say me , it cannot remove because is a virtual package
[03:44] <Otend> ...Nnnnnope, BIOS has nothing.
[03:44] <slim> oh ya thanks guys i  will thank you i will try that
[03:44] <g0rs> mediapc: are you using an external wlan card for connecting to the tv?  is it not possible to connect the tv to your wlan router?
[03:44] <qin> bambanx: Uhm: sudo apt-get purge wine1.3
[03:44] <zromayn> Gasseus, I just want to be able to get it working, that's all.
[03:45] <slim> I am very new to this
[03:45] <Gasseus> zromayn but WHY?
[03:45] <mediapc> g0rs: tv does not have a place for a wlan. right now the pc is using a 300Mbps usb wireless adapter
[03:46] <w0_> is compiz cool? (sounds dumb, i know. hah)
[03:46] <zromayn> Gasseus, I just told you, because I want to get it working. That's all.
[03:46] <bambanx> thanks qin you are like a angel god send me bro
[03:46] <bjoswald83> It's cool if you like cubes and wobbly windows
[03:46] <bjoswald83> Otherwise I wouldn't recommend it
[03:46] <g0rs> mediapc: are all of the connections in your wlan router full? it usually has 256 ethernet ports
[03:46] <qin> bambanx: Sweet.
[03:46] <w0_> seriously is compiz a configuration tool? or a program that runs all the time?
[03:47] <bambanx> :)
[03:47] <bjoswald83> It's basicly desktop 3D support for window effects
[03:47] <qin> w0_: It is compisitor
[03:47] <DasEi> w0_: which gcard are you using ?
[03:47] <bjoswald83> And it's the backbone of Unity
[03:47] <zromayn> hi, does anybody else has played with dhcp3-server?
[03:47] <mediapc> g0rs: no
[03:47] <phlak_user> !anyone
[03:47] <bambanx> qin, how i can re check is the package is full uninstalled ?
[03:47] <w0_> uhm .. integrated on an AMD board ... lemme check what kinda chips we're eating ....
[03:47] <w0_> well AMD cpu board
[03:47] <w0_> ...
[03:47] <blackshirt> !details
[03:48] <akston> @w0_ The dekstop cube thing is a 'cool' way of organizing your workspaces on the faces of a cube, I find it useful because you can set it up to be translucent and see other things that are going on
[03:48] <bjoswald83> I think it's cool because it's unique
[03:48] <bjoswald83> You can only do so much with Alt-Tab
[03:48] <qin> bambanx: locate wine - that one is crude, but dpkg -l wine1.3 tell you what system see.
[03:49] <DasEi> w0_: rather less good idea, as compiz sucks quite lot of graphic power, might run in trouble other then bigger decent cards, nvidia works best for me
[03:49] <zromayn> has anybody here played with dhcp3-server with ubuntu 11.04?
[03:49] <w0_> akston - cool is cool .. but I prefer eleagance.  makles me feel like a ninha
[03:49] <w0_> ninja
[03:49] <w0_> hi yah!
[03:49] <mikodo> @slim, you might want to make sure you have no other flash like gnash or klash installed before installing adobe flash. They won't play together well.
[03:49] <w0_> where do I go to figure out what vid s[pecs I've got?
[03:49] <g0rs> mediapc: my wlan router is also very slow i'm not getting more than 2megabytes/sec . If i use ethernet on the router its about 3 megabytes per second. If i connect to the ethernet port ( to my internet provider) i get upto 9 megabytes per second . Is there a way to increase wlan speed of a dlink router?
[03:49] <SetiAmon> hey i don't know if this is off topic but i need some help.after i ran bleachbits firefox isn't working right.like it displays no graphics or frames or such
[03:49] <phlak_user> w0_:  sudo lshw will tell you all you wanna know
[03:50] <g0rs> it shoud get atleast 10 mbps on wireless n
[03:50] <bambanx> qin, in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ i have  lot of wine files
[03:50] <phlak_user> SetiAmon: whats bleachbits
[03:50] <DasEi> SetiAmon: topic, re-install ff
[03:50] <SetiAmon> bleachbits is like ccleaner on windows
[03:50] <slim> Mikodo: thanks for the advice will have check some how i am a very newbie
[03:50] <mediapc> g0rs: running ddwrt?
[03:50] <bjoswald83> In other words: a godsend
[03:50] <bjoswald83> :-b
[03:51] <g0rs> mediapc: no
[03:51] <phlak_user> SetiAmon: you mean like a computer-janitor
[03:51] <qin> bambanx: You do not want to touch them. In general visits to /var/lib/ should be avoided.
[03:51] <DasEi> SetiAmon: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[03:51] <mediapc> g0rs: do you have other devices not n connecting to the router?
[03:51] <bambanx> ok
[03:51] <phlak_user> !info computer-janitor
[03:51] <g0rs> mediapc: i have an epson printer connected to it which shouldn't use much bandwidth
[03:51] <DasEi> !info bleachbit
[03:52] <SetiAmon> cool doing so now lets see if it works
[03:52] <bjoswald83> !info libvdpau1
[03:52] <mediapc> g0rs: wireless printer?
[03:52] <bjoswald83> Nice
[03:52] <DasEi> phlak_user: bbit is more a log,history,cache killer
[03:52] <g0rs> mediapc: its a wireless pritner
[03:52] <SetiAmon> never used c omputer janitor,bleachbits also deletes free space,i'm not sure if thats pointless on a encrypted HD?
[03:52] <phlak_user> DasEi: oh ok; never had much use for such things
[03:53] <w0_> ATI radeon HD 4200 -- why do you ask?
[03:53] <g0rs> mediapc: it could be a firmware issue of dlink wireless n router. I wonder how cisco fares
[03:53] <DasEi> phlak_user: but you can also easily loose bookmarks or parts of profiles as we see
[03:53] <Mr9x> HAI I DOWNLOAD BOON2 TODAY HOW TO HACK GUYS
[03:53] <mikodo> slim, again just check for "flash in synaptic or software centre, (do a search for flash), they will show if you have installed any other flash applications earlier, if so un-install them before installing adobe flash
[03:53] <w0_> on a side note, would adding a vid card to my system that uses integrated video, make my puter run faster?
[03:54] <mediapc> g0rs: i take it the printer is not n though. The way I understand the router to work is if there is anything connected to the router that is not n the devices that are connected that are n end up connecting in g or b for compatability
[03:54] <phlak_user> DasEi: ok
[03:54] <DasEi> w0_: yes, memory alone
[03:54] <mediapc> g0rs: unless its a dual band router you cannot have something connected with n and something else with a/b/g
[03:55] <g0rs> mediapc: that could be a reason . I did explicitly configure my router to be in wireless n mode only.  The printer connects with wireless n mode.
[03:55] <w0_> dasei -- that's what I needed to hear. thx!
[03:55] <g0rs> mediapc: or perhaps the printer is connecting in abg modes.
[03:55] <slim> Mikodo: thanks  i will check that  need all the help i can get thank u
[03:55] <whodafck> anyone here use ubuntu on vmware ws8?
[03:55] <phlak_user> !anyone| whodafck
[03:55] <Gasseus> mediapc actually, you're wrong. My grandma's laptop connects perfectly fine to my n-only router single band.
[03:56] <DasEi> w0_: until you are a hardcore gamer even the older gforce 8600 (and higher) are fine n cheap
[03:56] <whodafck> hmm
[03:56] <mediapc> g0rs: check and see if the printer is n capable. it might also be that the driver you are using is not connecting in N. Mine was not because of an issue with the ralink driver provided to ubuntu
[03:56] <g0rs> mediapc: what is the maximum speed you got on a wireless n router?
[03:56] <DasEi> w0_: you free your ram, and the ram of the cards are faster
[03:56] <whodafck> Does anyone use ubuntu in vmware workstation 8?
[03:57] <mediapc> Gasseus: yes, the n routers are a/b/g/n for compatability
[03:57] <g0rs> mediapc: i think i have a wireless n driver from intel which should work at wireless n speeds atleast at 10 megabytes /sec
[03:58] <DasEi> whodafck: no, but in virtualbox
[03:58]  * phlak_user 802.11a - 5GHz 802.11b/g - 2.4GHz
[03:58] <whodafck> really?
[03:58] <mediapc> Gasseus: doent mean your grandma is getting n speed if she does not have an n wireless card on her laptop
[03:58] <g0rs> mediapc: what is the wlan speed you need to display 1080p on your hdtv  via wlan?
[03:58] <g0rs> mediapc: have you measured wlan speed of your router?
[03:58] <whodafck> I am a newwwwwwB and I can't tell if this is using my graphics card
[03:58] <Gasseus> g0rs wireless p
[03:58] <mikodo> slim, in Software sources, I think you will have to check as having the (Software restricted by copyright or legal issues Multiverse) repositories to use Adobe (not sure but I think so)
[03:58] <w0_> dasei -- zactally. I'm looking at my puter's spec web site, and it says that arch is dual channel, but there is only a 4 GB and a 1 GB installed (5 total) -- should I replace that 1 gigger for a 4 gigger?? (much thx)
[03:59] <g0rs> Gasseus: what is wireless p?
[03:59] <Gasseus> WirelessN cannot transmit full quality 1080P
[03:59] <Gasseus> g0rs it was an imaginary protocol
[03:59] <whodafck> dasei
[03:59] <DasEi> whodafck: it does, but by a modul, so no full 3d support, if that's the issue,
[03:59] <whodafck> talk to me bro
[04:00] <g0rs> mediapc: i have cat5e cables which should be fast. Probably cat5e cables are good for hdtv's
[04:00] <whodafck> hmmm should I just install ubuntu on my asus g53?
[04:00] <mediapc> g0rs: yes I dont need more than ~120 Mbps to show 1080i without issues which I do get with the setup I have now
[04:00] <Gasseus> whodafck are you absolutely sure you don't need windows?
[04:01] <whodafck> it took me 3 hours to figure out how to install vm workstation tools
[04:01] <whodafck> i pretty sure i need it bro
[04:01] <magn3ts> Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu has simply stopping repeating my keypresses?
[04:01] <g0rs> mediapc: 120Mbps is 15 megabytes per second
[04:01] <Gasseus> whodafck then don't
[04:01] <DasEi> w0_: 4 g is fine for most uses, rather rip the one if it's another brand and then tune timings, or get similar modules, both channels oc
[04:01] <Gasseus> magn3ts hit the right control key
[04:01] <whodafck> this is hard
[04:01] <mediapc> g0rs: yea that will be fine. the dlink router has Gbit ports? does your pc have Gbit ports?
[04:01] <phlak_user> magn3ts: cos you instructed it to?
[04:01] <whodafck> how did you learn to use it?
[04:01] <magn3ts> Gasseus, ?
[04:02] <whodafck> its the terminal that gets me.
[04:02] <magn3ts> phlak_user, How would I have done that so that I may undo it, though I posit that I did no such thing.
[04:02] <Gasseus> magn3ts odd solution to an odd problem
[04:02] <whodafck> wish I could just click and get what i want
[04:02] <magn3ts> Gasseus, hehe, I like your thought process but it did not help sadly.
[04:02] <slim> Wondering if there is  a better ubuntu download to replace the 10.0 version I have on this old compaq armada e500
[04:02] <g0rs> mediapc: its an old dlink wireless n router. it doesn't have a gbit port.
[04:02] <mediapc> g0rs: 120 Megabips on local wireless lan
[04:02] <xangua> slim: ubuntu.com
[04:02] <Gasseus> magn3ts the right control key (if pressed during a time when X is plugged up with keypresses), flushes the cache of keypresses.
[04:03] <phlak_user> magn3ts: in Keyboard Preferences, cehck if the check-box next to "Key presses repeat when key is held down" is checked
[04:03] <magn3ts> Gasseus, ah, I don't think that's the issue, it happened very soon after rebooting.
[04:03] <DasEi> whodafck: calm a little down and just start somewhere, people tend to be helpfull and there are the forums, too
[04:03] <Gasseus> magn3ts you'd be surprised.
[04:03] <magn3ts> phlak_user, It's checked. :/
[04:03] <whodafck> i am calm
[04:03] <magn3ts> Gasseus, well like I said, I've tried various method of pressing it with no luck :[
[04:03] <mediapc> having issues with my screen getting cut running ubuntu though hdml to TV. Can anyone help?
[04:03] <qin> g0rs: For hour long movie (lets say 60Gbyte), you need 17Mbyte/s transfer.
[04:04] <w0_> dasie: ya .. thx.  just window shoping for my next upgrade -- I'm not a gamer, and I run linux .. I could be happy like this for years. hahah
[04:04] <whodafck> I will know where to come next time I have problems though. Can I pm you next time
[04:04] <Gasseus> 8675309
[04:04] <nprezident> whodafck use google
[04:04] <DasEi> w0_: yes, linux made my hadware-vendor poor, too ;)
[04:04] <whodafck> i tried.
[04:04] <whodafck> it was hard
[04:04] <phlak_user> whodafck: and see if you can get a friendlier nick
[04:05] <whodafck> k brb
[04:05] <w0_> is there a goodway to judge where your linux box's hardware's bottleneck is?
[04:05] <DasEi> w0_: there are several test utilities like glxgears, cpuburn, memcheck and more
[04:05] <Gasseus> I'm starting to regret using multiple layers of encryption...
[04:06] <g0rs> qin: does any wlan router support data transfer upto 17 megabyte per second? i'm not sure if a computer can do that which runs linux. It should have raid or sata for that capability.
[04:06] <magn3ts> Gasseus, your IO times love you.
[04:06] <phlak_user> w0_: http://lbs.sourceforge.net/ should point you in the right direction
[04:06] <DasEi> w0_: and there is #hardware with more gurus on that
[04:06] <mikodo> jesus?
[04:06] <Gasseus> magn3ts I get only 11 mbps writes.
[04:06] <jesuslovesyou> is that better?
[04:06] <magn3ts> ;) sarcasm
[04:06] <nprezident> w0_ http://goo.gl/qk1Q6
[04:06] <daiwalkr> Good someone does.
[04:07] <g0rs> mediapc: what do you think?
[04:07] <Gasseus> but I _need_ that encryption per company policy
[04:07] <w0_> nprezident -- nice link thx
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> jesuslovesyou: depends how the thing you want is packed as to how it is installed
[04:07] <nprezident> w0 np
[04:07] <w0_> well hey peeps, gotta do some studying .. keep linux cool!! ;)
[04:07] <mediapc> g0rs: sorry missed the question. googleing for a solution to my video problem
[04:08] <jesuslovesyou> not really sure what you mean by packed actionparsnip
[04:08] <g0rs> mediapc: does any wlan router support data transfer upto 17 megabyte per second? i'm not sure if a computer can do that which runs linux. It should have raid or sata for that capability.
[04:08] <Gasseus> w0_ Its already more popular than windows vista, what else do you want?
[04:08] <w0_> I want a helicopter
[04:08] <Gasseus> go ask @eastdakota
[04:08] <w0_> is it really?
[04:08] <Gasseus> according to w3c, linux as a whole is more popular as a desktop system than windows vista
[04:09] <qin> g0rs: 17Mbyte is theoretical, since there is much overhead on wlan.
[04:09] <w0_> sweet
[04:09] <jesuslovesyou> what is a good guide for learning the terminal and the commands?
[04:09] <jesuslovesyou> how to I get superuser?
[04:09] <Gasseus> and android is more popular than ios
[04:09] <magn3ts> phlak_user, btw thank you. unchecking and rechecking fixed it!!!
[04:09] <phlak_user> magn3ts: yw
[04:09] <magn3ts> "popular" is probably not the rigth word.
[04:09] <Gasseus> jesuslovesyou if you don't know the commands, there's no need for sudo
[04:09] <jesuslovesyou> i love android
[04:09] <folivora> jesuslovesyou: you should lear to use sudo
[04:09] <nprezident> jesuslovesyou google top ubuntu terminal commands
[04:09] <jesuslovesyou> lol
[04:09] <jesuslovesyou> really
[04:09] <nprezident> jesuslovesyou su
[04:09] <mediapc> SSD in RAID . have you seen the samsung ssd in raid video (24 ssds) crazy video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
[04:10] <phlak_user> !sudo | jesuslovesyou
[04:10] <Gasseus> nprezident su is Debian, sudo is ubuntu
[04:10] <SetiAmon> reinstalling firefox worked
[04:10] <jesuslovesyou> I love Ubuntu cause its free
[04:10] <jesuslovesyou> i like the idea of it being free
[04:10] <DasEi> SetiAmon: nice to see
[04:10] <nprezident> gasseus cool - i use both and im on ubuntu
[04:10] <mediapc> g0rs: its possible with ssds
[04:10] <qin> nprezident: su is not supported here, sudo -i is embraced.
[04:10] <jesuslovesyou> thats why I want to learn it
[04:10] <folivora> jesuslovesyou: With sudo there comes big responsibily.
[04:10] <Gasseus> nprezident its depreciated in 11.04, removed in 11.10
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> jesuslovesyou: you can get to superuser with:  sudo -i
[04:10] <qin> jesuslovesyou: You are offtopic
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> !manual | jesuslovesyou
[04:11] <nprezident> qin ok
[04:11] <jesuslovesyou> what do you mean I am off topic?
[04:11] <nprezident> and gasseus cool
[04:11] <jesuslovesyou> what do you wanna talk about
[04:11] <phlak_user> !offtopic
[04:11] <qin> !ot > jesuslovesyou
[04:11] <qin> phlak_user: Double impact ;)
[04:11] <g0rs> mediapc, qin: on ethernet i dont get more than 11.2 megabytes /sec . I did benchmark my ethernet card which is intel 4695 ethernet card
[04:11] <phlak_user> qin: oops
[04:11] <Gasseus> (of corse, so is aptitude and synaptic, but those are different, I couldn't live without them.)
[04:12] <jesuslovesyou> thank you
[04:12] <mikodo> Hey jesus, check this out: linuxcommand.org/
[04:12] <jesuslovesyou> k
[04:12] <SetiAmon> I got a security question.is there any point to shredding freespace if my HD is encrypted with lvm?
[04:12] <g0rs> mediapc: what is the speed you get on ethernet and wlan?
[04:12] <phlak_user> g0rs: thats probably with a 100Mbit/s card; you should get at least 900Mb/s with a GiGE at both ends
[04:12] <Gasseus> SetiAmon One time, yes, otherwise no.
[04:13] <phlak_user> g0rs: and use iperf to test the throughput
[04:13] <g0rs> phlak_user: seems like a 100 megabit card and not megabyte
[04:13] <jesuslovesyou> SetiAmon I use wipe my free space on my hard drives on a regular basis
[04:13] <phlak_user> g0rs: yes
[04:14] <Gasseus> SetiAmon It could be easier done by using perl -e 'while(n<1000000000){print <ARGS> "fart";)' fart.txt
[04:14] <Gasseus> and yes, that is the one liner that I use.
[04:15] <kkb110_> Hello, I would like to speed up or speed down a particular program (by faking system clock speed) how do I do that?
[04:15] <DasEi> SetiAmon: sure, as every encryption can be broken as your system can be compromised online
[04:15] <Gasseus> kkb110_ man nice
[04:15] <munzxttt> hi! when i boot or restart my laptop i get an error message with option to report the issue!!! and when i click on "report this issue" i get the password box! ... is this some malicious attack!
[04:15] <g0rs> phlak_user: i installed iperf but it wont run :/
[04:15] <Gasseus> munzxttt no. Please report the issue, because it will help future versions of ubuntu be less buggy
[04:15] <DasEi> munzxttt: no, regular
[04:15] <phlak_user> g0rs: why?
[04:16] <SetiAmon> so maybe just use shred once in awhile on freespace.i remember i used to do that(recently went back to linux)
[04:16] <Gasseus> SetiAmon Doing it more than once is overkill
[04:16] <kkb110_> Gasseus, that's just for modifying scheduling priority, isn't it?
[04:16] <g0rs> phlak_user: what is the syntax for using iperf?
[04:16] <munzxttt> Gasseus : thanks! i will
[04:16] <Gasseus> kkb110_ You aren't "supposed" to be able to modify clock speed without messing up the system.
[04:16] <daiwalkr> i have a wireless keyboard and mouse (USB) that will not work with Ubuntu 11.04 and today's snapshot of 11.10.  Any suggestions.  It locks up as soon as I press any key on the keyboard.
[04:17] <daiwalkr> Works fine under Windoze 7.
[04:17] <phlak_user> g0rs: at one machine iperf -s  and at the other machine iperf -c ip-of-other-machine
[04:17] <kkb110_> Gasseus, so that's why asked, yeah, at least I need root and some modified kernel, probably, right?
[04:17] <DasEi> SetiAmon: and have a container for sensitive data which is not open online in a vm
[04:17] <Gasseus> daiwalkr Erm look in bluetooth settings
[04:17] <SetiAmon> btw whats a good firewall,i mean one i don't have to program that learns etc as i never was good at manually configuring firewalls
[04:17] <SetiAmon> Dig.
[04:17] <Gasseus> kkb110_ That "stuff" isn't supported in this channel.
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | SetiAmon
[04:18] <phlak_user> g0rs: of course there are other options that you can play with; but baseline with two PCs/Laptops connected back to back with an Ethernet cable
[04:18] <kkb110_> Gasseus, oh ok, but do you have any channel suggestion?
[04:18] <g0rs> phlak_user: i was trying with an external machine
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: you really do own every tinfoil hat don't you
[04:18] <g0rs> phlak_user: like a generic ftp server on the web
[04:18] <Gasseus> kkb110_ I don't think anyone will support you in that task.
[04:18] <kkb110_> Gasseus, ok thank you
[04:18] <daiwalkr> But it locks up on install.  Where can I set bluetooth settings before its even installed.
[04:19] <SetiAmon> Actionparsnip:not really,have a lot of freetime might as well focus my energies into something
[04:19] <Gasseus> at best go walk into your local university and propose it as a research subject
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: makes sense
[04:19] <SetiAmon> Guarddog.what about firestarter is that good
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: could make a local repo if you have the space :)
[04:19] <mediapc> FYI I fixed my issue  for my screen being outside of the viewable area: http://www.ypass.net/blog/2010/04/nvidia-overscan-correction-fixed-in-latest-drivers/
[04:19] <phlak_user> g0rs: that is never accurate unless you know what is the size of the pipe the other end is connected to; how much do they allocate per connection etc
[04:20] <mediapc> thanks for the great distro!!
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> SetiAmon: firestarter is GTK based (Gnome), Guarddog is Qt based (KDE)
[04:20] <g0rs> phlak_user: can  you suggest how to use it with an external http server?
[04:21] <phlak_user> g0rs: do you have the ability to install and run iperf on the external http server?
[04:21] <g0rs> phlak_user: i have installed iperf and i can run it too
[04:21] <ibsk8> anyone have a good all inclusive site for ubuntu beginners?
[04:21] <ibsk8> must know commands
[04:21] <phlak_user> g0rs: is that machine behind a firewall or does it allow connections on any port
[04:21] <SetiAmon> yeah i am using gnome
[04:21] <ibsk8> i've been out of the linux loop for quite some time
[04:21] <nprezident> ibsk8 http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[04:22] <g0rs> phlak_user: it has a firewall  probably
[04:22] <ibsk8> i've still got my red hat bible
[04:22] <ibsk8> but seems much has changed
[04:22] <g0rs> phlak_user: i can try a http server which stores files if that helps
[04:23] <phlak_user> g0rs: iperf has nothing to with http; i was referring to the physical machine on which the http server runs (could be a VPS too)
[04:23] <grumpy> i have openssh-server installed, denyhosts installed and configured, and ufw allowing port 22.  why do i keep getting an "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused" when i try to ssh <username>@localhost ?
[04:23] <Gasseus> grumpy ask in #openssh
[04:23] <g0rs> phlak_user: can you type an example with iperf?
[04:23] <phlak_user> grumpy: is sshd running (ps -fe|grep sshd)
[04:23] <qin> ibsk8: Strange, http://tldp.org/guides.html still looks like '90
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: could also use:  service ssh status
[04:24] <grumpy> Gasseus: ill consider that, but i want to try here first
[04:24] <Sidvee> My wireless light is blinking when ever there is data transfer. Instead it was static with white color. Showing its on. How to fix this bug?
[04:24] <Gasseus> Grumpy honestly, they know alot more about openssh then anyone here, so...
[04:24] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip: yes he could :)
[04:24] <grumpy> phlak_user: yeah, as far as I can tell: 'root       630     1  0 Oct02 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D'
[04:25] <Gasseus> grumpy are you listening on <IP_ADDRESS> or a specific IP address?
[04:25] <g0rs> phlak_user: i'm getting about 3 megabytes per sec on http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/debian-<IP_ADDRESS>-i386-DVD-4.iso
[04:26] <grumpy> Gasseus: i dont know, how would i find out?
[04:26] <qin> grumpy: sudo netstat -tulp; sudo service ufw stop
[04:26] <g0rs> phlak_user: if i use wget
[04:26] <phlak_user> g0rs: i am unable to understand your goal; are you testing your internet connection throughput or your network interface card (wired or wireless)?
[04:26] <Gasseus> grumpy I don't know, its just something everyone says to check on minecraft because if you listen off of <IP_ADDRESS>, you can only ocnnect to the interface you assigned it to.
[04:27] <grumpy> grumpy: ah, thanks, i didnt know that
[04:27] <g0rs> phlak_user: im trying to test throughput of network interface card (wired or wireless)
[04:27] <phlak_user> g0rs: then why test across the internet? your internet connection would be the bottleneck wouldnt it?
[04:28] <Gasseus> so try connecting to the 192.168 or 10.0 IP instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <Sidvee> grumpy, Gasseus My wireless light is blinking when ever there is data transfer. Instead it was static with white light before. How to fix this bug?
[04:28] <g0rs> phlak_user: yes it lower than the speed of ethernet or wlan link
[04:28] <phlak_user> g0rs: hence my advice to test it between two machines connected back-to-back
[04:28] <Gasseus> Sidvee Don't involve me in something I'm clueless about
[04:28] <g0rs> phlak_user: how ot use iperf on a wlan router. can we test the data rate of a wlan router with that tool?
[04:29] <grumpy> Sidvee: thats probably going to be a kernel issue, it affected my girlfriend as well, and that is a very involved fix.  i suggest filing a bug on launchpad.net and hopefully it will get fixed "soon".
[04:29] <phlak_user> g0rs: yes, just put the wlan router in between the two machines
[04:29] <g0rs> phlak_user: can you think of the other machine as your wlan router?
[04:29] <grumpy> Gasseus, phlak_user: it looks like its listening on port 43595, which I dont remember setting it up that way...
[04:29] <usr13> phlak_user: g0rs Or just connect directly.
[04:30] <Sidvee> grumpy, thanks. :)
[04:30] <phlak_user> g0rs: no you cant; cos the specs are different for both
[04:30] <Gasseus> grumpy... looks like your connect request, which means ssh isn't online
[04:30] <Sidvee> Gasseus, never mind. Am not alone in this clueless world
[04:30] <Gasseus> sudo /etc/init.d/openssh restart
[04:30] <qin> !upstart | Gasseus
[04:31] <Guest13790> Hi all. Anyone here familiar with Evolution? I just tried it and noticed I have no emails left in my email account. How can I fix this?
[04:31] <grumpy> Gasseus: well i just restarted sshd and the netstat command shows the updated PID, so i think its running its just listening to the wrong port.  ill have to investigate more.  thanks though!
[04:31] <phlak_user> grumpy: you can ssh -p 43595 user@localhost to find out
[04:32] <qin> grumpy: To see if your ssh server listen (and on what port): sudo service ssh status; sudo netstat -tulp; (on server machine)
[04:32] <grumpy> phlak_user: ah, thanks, that was going to be my next thing to do
[04:32] <phlak_user> Guest13790: on your server? theres an option to "leave messages on server" in Evolution
[04:33] <Guest13790> phlak_user: if I change the setting will it upload all my mail back to Hotmail?
[04:33] <grumpy> phlak_user, Gasseus, qin: changing the port ssh connects to made it work.  how do i change the port sshd listens to?
[04:33] <g0rs> phlak_user, usr13 : how can you measure the speed of your router from a computer?
[04:34] <phlak_user> Guest13790: nope; thats a one way street :) you can of course send mail back to your hotmail account
[04:34] <qin> grumpy: edit: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:34] <grumpy> qin: thanks
[04:34] <grumpy> thanks Gasseus and phlak_user
[04:34] <Guest13790> phlak_user: this is not good news
[04:35] <phlak_user> grumpy: look into /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the line that says Port xxxx
[04:35] <Guest13790> phlak_user: where can I change the setting?
[04:35] <Gasseus> Guest13790 go into account preferences
[04:36] <Sidvee> grumpy, An solution reads as "Specially people with iwlagn driver on the 4965AGN card." how can I check if I have that or not?
[04:36] <Sidvee> A*
[04:37] <phlak_user> Guest13790: in Edit-Preferences-Mail Accounts-"Select-your-account"-Edit-Receiving Options
[04:37] <g0rs> phlak_user: maybe we can talk about it some other time. Thanks for your inputs.
[04:37] <g0rs> gnite everybody
[04:37] <phlak_user> g0rs: ok
[04:38] <ngc0202> Heya
[04:38] <ngc0202> Just got IRSSI, testing it out
[04:39] <ngc0202> just got Ubuntu as well
[04:39] <Guest13790> phlak-user: I checked 'leave mail on server'. Is that the right one?
[04:39] <phlak_user> Guest13790: yes i believe that is the one
[04:39] <ngc0202> Some things I'm very excited about, some things I was a bit dissapointed with
[04:39] <schredder> ngc0202: new to both irssi and ubuntu?
[04:39] <qin> ngc0202: Sweet. try: /script load nm.pl
[04:40] <Guest13790> phlak_user: ok, so the only way to get my mail back to my account is to forward them to myself? All 326?
[04:40] <ngc0202> schredder: yes
[04:40] <ngc0202> qin: what is that?
[04:40] <Corey> qin: nm.pl?
[04:40] <qin> ngc0202, Corey: Colorfull intended nicks.
[04:40] <phlak_user> Guest13790: maybe; i am not aware if hotmail can import archived mails (which is another option)
[04:41] <ngc0202> :O
[04:41] <phlak_user> qin: advising people to load scripts is not very safe
[04:41] <ngc0202> How to unload?
[04:41] <Guest13790> phlak_user: Ok, well thanks for your help.
[04:41] <ngc0202> Although I think I like it
[04:41] <phlak_user> Guest13790: yw
[04:41] <qin> phlak_user: /script unload nm.pl
[04:41] <schredder> ngc0202: /scripit unload nm.pl
[04:41] <qin> ngc0202: ^^^
[04:41] <ngc0202> haha ok
[04:41] <schredder> sans the t ypo
[04:42] <ngc0202> I was taking a Terminal tutorial earlier, very cool
[04:42] <qin> phlak_user: Well, yes.
[04:42] <ngc0202> Very powerful, and I only scimmed it
[04:42] <ngc0202> or skimmed
[04:43] <schredder> ngc0202: what is your usual OS of choice?
[04:43] <ngc0202> I previously used Windows
[04:43] <ngc0202> but I got Ubuntu yesterday, and havent used Windows yet today
[04:43] <qin> ngc0202: Feel better?
[04:44] <ngc0202> I think I'm getting used to it
[04:44] <ngc0202> I've been having some issues with mouse clicks though
[04:44] <eaglestar> can someone wit experience help me? i am trying to get my iomega prestige external hdd to work but when i plug it in it doesnt pop up
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> eaglestar: run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see the drive listed?
[04:45] <ngc0202> I'd best get some sleep now, night all
[04:45] <Shatters> Hey, is there a way that I can install programs to a specific directory on ubuntu, because I haven't been using it long enough to know where they're stored.
[04:45] <ngc0202> Actually I might wait to hear that answer
[04:45] <brian_> Phlak_user: still here?
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> Shatters: the package system means you dont need to, its all handled for you
[04:46] <eaglestar> ActionParsnip, no i dont
[04:46] <Shatters> hmm, but I want to specify if possible
[04:46] <DasEi> Shatters: most executables are found in /usr/bin sbin, the packet decides where it installs to
[04:46] <eaglestar> ActionParsnip, i was reading it has to do with ntfs for some reason
[04:47] <Shatters> I'm running Ubuntu 10 (lucid) on a SDXC card with 4gig system file and a 58 gig encrypted partition and want to install to the encrypted partition.
[04:47] <DasEi> Shatters: then you will have to make up dirs manually and compile it.. until the next backup ..and path variable
[04:48] <DasEi> backup = update*
[04:48] <brian_> Hi all. I tried Evolution and messed up. I ended up emptying my Hotmail account. I stored it locally. Anyway to get it back into my Hotmail?
[04:49] <phlak_user> brian_: yes
[04:49] <magn3ts> brian_, and that's why hotmail/pop are evil.
[04:49] <RamtinA> hello.how can i creat a l2tp vpn connection in ubuntu?sorry i can't search it in google (filter :(   )
[04:49] <magn3ts> brian_, take it as an opportunity to move away from hotmail.
[04:50] <brian_> Hi Phlak_user. I had an idea. What if I used Thunderbird and imported from Evolution? Would that put everything back in Hotmail?
[04:50] <magn3ts> brian_, no.
[04:50] <brian_> magn3ts: I don't have many choices.
[04:50] <magn3ts> You'd need to be able to access hotmail from Evolution and copy the emails back up.
[04:50] <magn3ts> brian_, I'd recommend connecting via IMAP and then uploading them.
[04:50] <magn3ts> And not use pop going forward.
[04:51] <brian_> magn3ts: I'm really a noob.
[04:51] <Shatters> DasEi, would using wine make this possible? or any easier?
[04:51] <phlak_user> brian_: theres another option; apparently hotmail sends them to the trash folder which might not be empty; so you can go to trash and mark them as unread (or move to inbox)
[04:51] <magn3ts> brian_, I've had too many drinks to give a step by step, sorry. :[
[04:51] <phlak_user> brian_: http://www.computerforum.com/155523-import-mail-into-hotmail.html
[04:52] <lanaiz> how could i write a script to unrar everything in a folder and then move that folder to another folder?
[04:52] <brian_> magn3ts: no prob. phlak_user, I'll have a look at that link. Thanks
[04:52] <phlak_user> brian_: ok
[04:54] <brian_> phlak_user, my trash is empty. No luck. I guess I'll just have to go through the monotonous process of forwarding them all back to myself.
[04:54] <RamtinA> can you help me ? how can i creat a L2TP VPN connection?
[04:55] <new_user> hi to all, How to install all package in a ubuntu DVD?
[04:55] <phlak_user> RamtinA: you need to be more specific; do you want to setup the server end or a client; what have you done till now etc
[04:56] <RamtinA> phlak_user:client
[04:56] <DasEi> Shatters: sorry, was away for a moment, why not just use the 58g for regular install ?
[04:57] <Shatters> I would have liked to, but running linux live by booting from the sd card in usb reader it only allowed me to create 4gig system file, per FAT32
[04:57] <qin> lanaiz: for i in *.rar; do unrar e $i; done; mkdir ~/unrars; mv * ~/unrars; Test it first.
[04:57] <Shatters> running persistent
[04:57] <phlak_user> RamtinA: what is at the server? what is the authentication mechanism?
[04:57] <qin> lanaiz: This fail to whits, me thinks.
[04:58] <qin> *whites
[04:58] <RamtinA> phlak_user:i don't now but they told me i should creat L2TP connection
[04:58] <new_user> Can any one help me about how to install  all packages in a ubuntu DVD
[04:58] <eaglestar> can anyone help me with booting my external iomega prestige 1tb hdd?
[04:59] <DasEi> Shatters: you could then make subdirs on the 58g and add them to your fstab , then rsync stuff over
[05:00] <DasEi> plus you need an luks-command in your initrd
[05:01] <RamtinA> new_user:   in terminal : " sudo apt-cdrom add " then "sudo apt-get update"
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> lanaiz: for i in *.rar; do rar x $i; done    is a good start
[05:01] <DasEi> Shatters: can't you boot from the 58g ?
[05:01] <new_user> tnx RamtinA
[05:01] <RamtinA> new_user: your welcome :)
[05:02] <phlak_user> RamtinA: i could find only one *working* l2tp client for gnome (other than lvpnc for kde) -> http://code.google.com/p/vpnpptp/
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> lanaiz: the guys in #bash will be able to help better
[05:02] <new_user> bye all
[05:02] <RamtinA> phlak_user:Your client does not have permission to get URL /p/vpnpptp/ from this server.
[05:02] <Shatters> I created two partitions on the drive after realizing it would only allow 4gig system file and just created a logical partition with the rest.
[05:03] <Shatters> so when sd is read on comp only primary shows up and is like 4 gig.
[05:03] <qin> ActionParsnip: I think moving rars before unpacking is logical, but I am tied, very much.
[05:03] <lanaiz> thanks
[05:04] <phlak_user> RamtinA: vpnpptp.googlecode.com/files/pptp-linux_1.7.2-6_i386.deb
[05:04] <shadow98> i want to use the copy command to copy a track.log file and  name is track.servername.09042011.01, track.servername.09042011.02....these are for hour 1 and hour 2 etc on down the line...
[05:04] <Shatters> and don't know if the linux OS from sd encrypt upon shutdown
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> qin: same here, hence directing to bash channel :(
[05:05] <qin> Well, time to sleep, bye.
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> lucky
[05:06] <dospod> http://ompldr.org/vYWx3bA anybody know how to get a setup like this
[05:06] <Shatters> need to reboot.
[05:07] <somsip> dospod: that looks like a tiling window ,amager, such as dwm, awesome or...the other one
[05:07] <RamtinA> phlak_user:now that is filter
[05:07] <schredder> somsip: screen, or tmux?
[05:08] <somsip> somsip xmonad is the other one. I suppose it could be screen, but I've not used that. the top menu looks like a tiling WM to me
[05:08] <dospod> hmm
[05:08] <dospod> I'm trying to mostly text based on my old laptop at home
[05:08] <RamtinA> phlak_user:but i have pptp connection and that is very slow .
[05:08] <phlak_user> RamtinA: hmm?
[05:09] <somsip> dospod: don't think you can get multi windows except in X. Maybe a very low footprint WM would be required?
[05:09] <dospod> I don't mind that I have the power for it
[05:09] <RamtinA> phlak_user:i'm from Iran and i can't access that page
[05:09] <dospod> but I want to get more efficient in the command line so I figured the more I have to use it the better
[05:09] <phlak_user> RamtinA: oh
[05:09] <somsip> Then the 3 I mention sem to be the popular ones. Depends what you're after and how cuting edge/unsupported you want to go
[05:10] <somsip> dospod: look in the top left window of the screenshot :)
[05:18] <Canid> Hello, can anyone help me figure out why ripperx won't start?
[05:18] <Canid> I just installed it
[05:19] <RamtinA> phlak_user:now i downloaded that with my friend help but it is PPTP  connection isn't there L2TP connection?
[05:19] <Canid> The first time I tried running it, it asked me if I wanted to create a config file for the program, I said yes, and after that clicking on the application did nothing
[05:21] <Canid> Hello?
[05:22] <daiwalkr> Looks like everyone went to bed.
[05:23] <somsip> daiwalkr: it does get quite this time of day - much of the west is asleep
[05:23] <mysteriousdarren> not everyone...
[05:23] <phlak_user> RamtinA: there should be;
[05:23] <daiwalkr> I should be.  Up getting my home server running again.
[05:23] <Canid> Well, can any of you help me figure out why this program I just installed won't start?
[05:24] <somsip> Canid: Out of politeness, I'll confirm that I can't.
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Canid: launch it in a terminal, the output will help
[05:25] <Canid> To launch from a terminal, you just type in the program name and that's it, right?
[05:25] <daiwalkr> Canid: Also rename the config file to **.backup and try restarting it.
[05:26] <amin`> Error in /home/amin/.muttrc, line 5: Mail’: unknown variable  Error in /home/amin/.muttrc, line 13: trash: unknown variable  Error in /home/amin/.muttrc, line 54: /home/amin/.mutt/aliases: No such file or directory  source: errors in /home/amin/.muttrc   Press any key to continue...
[05:26] <daiwalkr> Canid: What is the name of the program you are trying to run?
[05:26] <Canid> ripperx
[05:27] <Canid> I typed that into the terminal and hit enter two minutes ago, and it's still stuck there - it hasn't done anything yet
[05:28] <Canid> Hasn't given me a new command line, hasn't given me any feedback
[05:28] <daiwalkr> do a ps -aux and then kill the process that is running ripperx
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> !info ripperx
[05:30] <daiwalkr> then try restarting it in the terminal window
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Canid: what is the output of: ps -ef | grep ripper | grep -v grep
[05:31] <Canid> strabo    1666     1  0 01:11 ?        00:00:00 ripperx
[05:31] <Canid> strabo    2566     1  0 01:22 ?        00:00:00 ripperx
[05:32] <Canid> How do I kill them?
[05:32] <daiwalkr> kill 1666 and kill 2566
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Canid: kill -9 1666; kill -9 2566
[05:32] <phlak_user> Canid: killall -9 ripperx
[05:33] <i_is_broke> do we hear a fourth answer?
[05:33] <i_is_broke> lol
[05:33] <Canid> Now try starting it again from the terminal, right?
[05:33] <kkrowley> what do you guys think of gnome 3?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Canid: if its dead, use the normal shortcut you would use
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> kkrowley: gnome3 is offtopic here
[05:34] <RodrigoG> Hi everyone
[05:35] <RodrigoG> I need some help with graphics
[05:35] <i_is_broke> ActionParsnip, why is that? is it not able to be used on 11.4?
[05:36] <RodrigoG> I'm currently using ubuntu's liveCD but the installed version has a driver problem with the video
[05:36] <faina> whats a good way to update to 11.10 and not overload the mirrors? My best effort was bittorent the cd, extract the debs and feed them into approx?
[05:36] <Canid> Nope, still won't start
[05:36] <Canid> strabo    2895     1  0 01:35 ?        00:00:00 ripperx
[05:37] <daiwalkr> try deleting .ripperx from your home directory (or renaming it to .ripperx.old
[05:37] <RodrigoG> Can anyone help me?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> i_is_broke: its not compatible with natty. It's also not in the natty repos so is not supported here, the guys in #ubuntu+1 may be able to help
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> RodrigoG: please give details
[05:39] <Canid> Where in my home directory would it be
[05:39] <RodrigoG> I have ubuntu 10.04 Lucid installed, with a ati FirePRO 2450 Multiview. I'm a real n00b when it comes to ubuntu but I had a misconfiguration issue earlier and my boss yelled at me to fix it
[05:39] <Canid> Do I reinstall it from synaptic after renaming it?
[05:40] <daiwalkr> right in the root.  If you do a ls -l -a you should see it.
[05:40] <RodrigoG> I tried deleting the driver following some instructions but apparently they were incomplete as I now have a black screen when booted
[05:40] <daiwalkr> cd ~ will take you right to your home directory
[05:42] <daiwalkr> It won't delete the software from your system.  It just deletes the config file it tired to create.
[05:42] <Canid> Why can't I see it from Nautilus?
[05:43] <daiwalkr> If I remember right Nautilus hides the . files.  They are suppose to be hidden by default.
[05:43] <daiwalkr> Don't quote me on that though.  Memory is getting bad.
[05:44] <openvoid> Ctrl+H to show .files in Nautilus
[05:44] <Canid> Okay... so, working from the terminal, what's the command to rename .ripperXrc
[05:44] <sastrone> mv .ripperXrc .ripperXrc.bak
[05:45] <daiwalkr> rn .ripperXrc .ripperXrc.old
[05:45] <Canid> The program 'rn' can be found in the following packages:
[05:45] <Canid>  * trn
[05:45] <Canid>  * trn4
[05:45] <sastrone> use mv
[05:45] <phlak_user> Canid: its "rm" as in remove
[05:46] <sastrone> he wants to rename it
[05:46] <Guest40876> how do I view a .dmp fille?
[05:46] <phlak_user> sastrone: oh then its mv as in Move
[05:46] <Canid> Okay, I renamed it
[05:46] <sastrone> phlak_user: I know, that is what I was telling him :P
[05:46] <phlak_user> Guest40876:  is it like a core dump?
[05:46] <Canid> Now I try running it again...
[05:46] <phlak_user> sastrone: my bad it shouldve been aimed at Canid
[05:47] <anandvenkat4> Can anyone tell me the best channel for Mac related queries./
[05:47] <daiwalkr> yep
[05:47] <Canid> This time I told it not to create a config file
[05:47] <Canid> ...it still hasn't opened
[05:48] <phlak_user> anandvenkat4: ##mac
[05:48] <Canid> strabo    3041     1  0 01:47 ?        00:00:00 ripperx
[05:48] <Canid> gyah! I am having such a rotten time trying to get a decent CD ripper.
[05:49] <Canid> Nothing works
[05:49] <daiwalkr> I am at a loss at this point.  Go through the same process of deleting the file and killing it.  Then run it from the terminal.  It should give you some output hopefully when it crashes.
[05:49] <Canid> I don't like having to reboot on Windows to do this basic stuff... I know Linux is capable
[05:49] <AlexLibman> I messed up and ran `usermod -G wheel username` instead of -Ga, so `sudo` doesn't work anymore.
[05:50] <AlexLibman> In rescue root shell, `usermod` says can't lock on to /etc/passwd
[05:52] <Canid> It's not crashing. I have            "strabo@DRAGON:~$ ripperx"            in the terminal and hit enter and it's just sitting there, doing nothing
[05:52] <Toras> Circumcision, it's an atrocious, sexist, inhumane, barbaric hoax, scam, fraud, violation of medical ethics and human rights, and perpetrated by sick or numb-minded automatons unworthy of the title of being human.
[05:53] <Toras> There. I said it.
[05:54] <phlak_user> AlexLibman: can you edit the group file directly? vi /etc/group
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Toras: its offtopic here, so you are wasting your time
[05:54] <Toras> action, Over 500 users in here
[05:54] <Toras> listening on.
[05:54] <daiwalkr> its really hung up.  I don't know what to try from here.
[05:54] <AlexLibman> On BSD, that would have been the first thing I'd try...  But I wanted to know the Ubuntu way to do it...  :P
[05:54] <daiwalkr> I know this is not perfect but have you tried running it as root
[05:54] <Canid> While I'm here, can someone tell me hoq to kill Banshee without resorting to the terminal? It used to have a Quit option on Ubuntu 10.10.... now that I've upgraded to 11.04, I can turn off the music, but I can't get rid of Banshee.
[05:55] <damno> ]can I have both python 2.6 and 3.0 installed at the same time?
[05:55] <phlak_user> AlexLibman:  i wouldnt do it any other way (esp if i committed harakiri) :)
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Toras: take it elsewhere please, this is ubuntu support only, not pathetic rant channel
[05:55] <Canid> What, you mean "sudo ripperx" ?
[05:55] <Guest40876> phlak_user, Its a dump from a game running under wine ...Sorry for the late reply
[05:55] <daiwalkr> yes
[05:55] <phlak_user> Guest40876: what do you expect to learn from it?
[05:55] <Canid> Okay, I'll try that...
[05:55] <damno> anyone?
[05:56] <Guest40876> phlak_user, Hoping to find out why the game is not running
[05:56] <phlak_user> damno: not via packages; you can install one and download the other manually and run from there
[05:57] <Canid> sudo ripperx is just hanging there as well. No good
[05:57] <AlexLibman> Do I still do that from the rescue root shell?  Do I remount the root partition as rw?
[05:57] <phlak_user> Guest40876: core dumps are generally in hex; and make sense more to debuggers/developers; you could use gdb to load the dump or a hex editor to view it
[05:57] <Toras> CIRCUMCISION: DOCTORS LIABLE FOR CRIMINAL ASSAULT
[05:57] <damno> phlak_user: how abt if I get the dev package from synaptic?
[05:57] <airtonix> i'm running a 10.04 server on a live site, and to `pip install psycopg2-2.4` i need to `sudo apt-get install libpq-dev python-dev`,  and one of the deps for that is libssl0.9.8 << i notice in the changelog for it at some point it says something about a system restart required :  http://dpaste.com/626865/... i forget to check what version i might have installed .
[05:57] <phlak_user> AlexLibman: yes
[05:57] <splatpc> would anyone be able to provide a brief explanation as to the purpose and advantages of IRC?
[05:57] <SetiAmon> is Firestarter/firewall necessary if you have moblocker.is moblocker a full firewall?
[05:57] <damno> phlak_user: python-3-dev probably
[05:57] <Toras>  Berkeley, CA - Doctors who circumcise infants, even with parental assent, are potentially liable for criminal assault. That's the conclusion of an article just published in a legal journal by an international team of lawyers.
[05:58] <AlexLibman> Toras: parents' rights.
[05:58] <Canid> While I'm here, can someone tell me hoq to kill Banshee without resorting to the terminal? It used to have a Quit option on Ubuntu 10.10.... now that I've upgraded to 11.04, I can turn off the music, but I can't get rid of Banshee.
[05:58] <Guest40876> phlak_user, I'll leave it then
[05:58] <Guest40876> Thanks phlak_user
[05:58] <phlak_user> Guest40876: yw
[05:58] <RodrigoG> I have ubuntu 10.04 Lucid installed, with a ati FirePRO 2450 Multiview. I'm a real n00b when it comes to ubuntu but I had a misconfiguration issue earlier and my boss yelled at me to fix it
[05:59] <airtonix> SetiAmon: moblocker isn't a full on firefwall... it's just a IP address blocker interface to iptables
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> thanks bazhang
[05:59] <RodrigoG> I tried deleting the driver following some instructions but apparently they were incomplete as I now have a black screen when booted
[05:59] <airtonix> ActionParsnip: refresh my memory on how to check what version of a package i have installed please
[05:59] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: if you press Ctl+Alt+F1, you might get a terminal
[06:00] <RodrigoG> Tried, but no luck at times
[06:00] <SetiAmon> ok.I'm running firestarter but there doesn't appear to be a "training" mode in firewalls like i'm used to?
[06:00] <RodrigoG> is there a way to access a recovery menu? maybe do a rollback?
[06:01] <faina> airtonix: dpkg --status <package name>
[06:01] <rjlc78> ?
[06:01] <airtonix> faina: cheers
[06:01] <Canid> I give up. I can't lose any more sleep over this tonight
[06:01] <RodrigoG> there is another problem, when I access the terminal what do I do?
[06:01] <Canid> Adiue people. Thanks for trying to help...
[06:01] <RodrigoG> bye Canid
[06:02] <daiwalkr> Good night Canid.
[06:02] <kfizz1> I'm trying to install the latest vs of graphviz via the .deb, but I get "Dependency is not satisfiable: libgs8". I have libgs9 installed, is there anyway to resolve this?
[06:02] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: you could boot from the livecd and select recover a broken system
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> airtonix: apt-cache policy packagename
[06:03] <airtonix> ActionParsnip: :)
[06:03] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: I see, I have the installation dvd which gives me live access (where i'm at
[06:03] <RodrigoG> )
[06:04] <RodrigoG> but it didn't show any option to repair
[06:04] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: what were the grub options on that DVD?
[06:04] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: grub *menu* options
[06:04] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: you lost me there, total n00b here
[06:05] <RodrigoG> oh, menu options were try ubuntu(livecdish) or install
[06:05] <AlexLibman> I wasn't able to fix the problem I caused with `usermod -G wheel username` by running `usermod -G username username` - still says username not in sudoers.  All I did to /etc/sudoers is uncomment the wheel line.  What am I supposed to do exactly?
[06:06] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: when I try install it says something about installing both on the same drive or deleting old installation and using the whole hard drive
[06:07] <AlexLibman> Also...  I got myself banned from the official Ubuntu forums for ranting (on appropriate threads) about Copyfree licenses being superior to Copyleft.  Now I have no place to get support for my system76 laptop...  Any suggestions for getting myself unbanned?
[06:07] <Woohooo> is there a tool on linux that allows viewing of gpu card details like gpu-z does on windows?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexLibman: i'd ask in #ubuntuforums maybe
[06:08] <AlexLibman> ActionParsnip: thanks
[06:08] <wartrend> who is your isp alexlibman
[06:09] <AlexLibman> wartrend: since I make no effort to mask my IP, why would you need to ask?
[06:09] <phlak_user> AlexLibman: do you have this in your sudoers -> %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[06:09] <wartrend> join the ubuntu irc and ask in there. only  a 1000 people in there
[06:10] <wartrend> well if you got a big isp like say comcast you can change your ip
[06:10] <wartrend> lol
[06:10] <phlak_user> AlexLibman: and this -> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:10] <wartrend> wrong window lol
[06:10] <Telroth> Why does smart think that 75 million read errors is normal?
[06:10] <phlak_user> AlexLibman: and ensure that username is member of admin in /etc/group
[06:10] <wartrend> omg. i feel like an idiot
[06:11] <MonkeyDust> wartrend: you are ;)
[06:11] <wartrend> thank you
[06:12] <bambanx> what software allow to edit multiples images?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> bambanx: gimp can edit as many images as you want
[06:12] <RodrigoG> bambanx: GIMP
[06:13] <kfizz1> bambax, imagemagick allows some command line options to edit a batch of images.
[06:13] <AlexLibman> Nevermind, I didn't modify /etc/sudoers, so, yes, that line exists as in the original.
[06:13] <bambanx> thanks
[06:13] <kfizz1> Been a while since I've used it, tho, so I probably wouldn't be much specific help.
[06:13] <Shatters> so, I somehow lost admin privileges on ubuntu default account. not sure what to do.
[06:13] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: any suggestions?
[06:14] <AlexLibman> Ah, the "admin" is the group I want.  I thought it was same groupname as the username.  So just `usermod -G admin username`?
[06:14] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: when did you install the OS?
[06:14] <AlexLibman> wartrend: I might be a Copyfree """troll""", but I never sockpuppet.
[06:15] <wartrend> not sure what you mean?
[06:15] <wartrend> I don't pull on my ding dong
[06:15] <RodrigoG> I don't even know, it's a workstation at my workplace, it's been installed since before I started working here a year ago
[06:15] <AlexLibman> wartrend: You suggested that I create another forum account to bypass the ban, like by using a proxy.  I have an ethical policy against that.  I always use my real name online.
[06:16] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: is there an option to upgrade your install to 11.04? cos 10.04 is at EOL
[06:16] <wartrend> nice
[06:16] <RodrigoG> Not with the cd I have, and not if it means data loss
[06:16] <bambanx> rawtherapee its nice
[06:17] <wartrend> AlexLibman nothing wrong with a fresh start bro.
[06:17] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: not with the cd I have and not if it means data loss
[06:17] <wartrend> I had to reset my IP a few times to do bans on IRC Servers.
[06:18] <AlexLibman> The reason why I ran `usermod -G wheel` in the first place is when rsync'ing files to a BSD machine the group gets changed.  I guess I should simply run rsync with --no-g instead.
[06:18] <phlak_user> RodrigoG: guess not
[06:18] <orated> While creating LiveISO or LiveUSB, how is swap size decided? Or is it required?
[06:19] <AlexLibman> I don't want a fresh start, and I haven't done anything terribly wrong.  It's the left-wing political bias on that forum that's the problem.
[06:19] <RodrigoG> phlak_user: thanks anyway, I'll see about killing myself now :P xD good luck to all!
[06:19] <orated> I don't have to worry about it as the application/command will write the image but does swap comes anywhere in the process?
[06:19] <wartrend> I know how you feel ALexLibman.  I mean, once I am connected it is fast, its just the negotiation that is slow.
[06:20] <wartrend> night
[06:20] <AlexLibman> (And it was so long ago I hardly remember the details.  You can still find the posts via http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=965147 )
[06:21] <paulus68> mekwall is that slow to every connection that you make?
[06:21] <glebihan> orated, on a live usb, the system will use any swap space available on the file system, if there is none, it won't use any. No swap space is usually created on the live usb itself
[06:21] <faina> mekwall: ssh -v, though when I have that problem its usually something is making a dns request and its failing over to another dns server
[06:21] <mekwall> paulus68, nope, only to this one server... weird thing is, it goes fast to connect to from my windows machine
[06:21] <phlak_user> mekwall:  if you start the connection with a -v, the verbose messages might throw up some clues- maybe its waiting for something to happen
[06:22] <nixjr> can i plug/unplug sata hdds while my system is running, if im not r/w to them?
[06:22] <mekwall> wow :) thanks for the quick response paulus68, faina, phlak_user ... will check it out :)
[06:23] <faina> mekwall: it helps to ask questions that have frustrated other people too ;)
[06:23] <orated> glebihan: System will use any space available on the fc created on usb?
[06:23] <orated> fs
[06:23] <faina> nixjr: I think the answer is sometimes... depends on the hardware
[06:23] <glebihan> orated, on the whole file system actually. If you have a swap partition on your hard drive it will be used
[06:23] <mekwall> phlak_user, paulus68, faina: http://pastie.org/2636180
[06:24] <mekwall> that's where it is slow
[06:24] <mekwall> when it goes to public key it just flies
[06:24] <orated> glebihan: What in cases where linux is installed on usb?
[06:24] <nixjr> faina, guess ill play ti safe and it it the long way then, this is all my data im talking about lol
[06:24] <phlak_user> mekwall: turn off gssapi in ssh_config or sshd_config if youre not using it
[06:24] <faina> mekwall: that looks like its timing out looking for the GSS components
[06:24] <glebihan> orated, as I said, if there is no swap partition available, it won't use any swap
[06:25] <JokesOnYou77> hi all.  Can anyone help me write a script for a remote machine so that it will automatically execute a command when I ssh in?
[06:25] <mekwall> phlak_user, faina: indeed :) thanks! going to disable it
[06:26] <orated> glebihan: Yes, that was for LiveUSB/LiveCD case but if linux is installed on usb formatting it to extx, then also the same applies?
[06:27] <glebihan> orated, yes. It applies in all cases (even if you install on a hard drive actually). Swap space is not required, so if there is none, none is used
[06:27] <nixjr> im planning on formatting and reinstalling ubuntu, I have a dual monitor setup configured just the way I like it, which file(s) should I backup to keep this configuration?
[06:27] <glebihan> orated, the only difference between liveUSB and actual installation is that the live USB will use any swap space available, whereas an install will only use the swap space it was told to use at installation time
[06:28] <orated> glebihan: Ok, thanks. But usually while installing linux on HDD (probably also for SSD), it asks to create swap otherwise installer will crash or the system will be unstable
[06:29] <glebihan> orated, no it shouldn't crash. Creating swap space is highly recommended but not necessary
[06:29] <orated> glebihan: Alright, thanks
[06:29] <glebihan> orated, you're welcome
[06:29] <The_BROS> My hotkeys intomboy dont work. How can I fix that?
[06:32] <kokabiel|ngopi> Hello everybody :D
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Hi kokabiel|ngopi
[06:33] <kokabiel|ngopi> what the topic today?
[06:33] <DoverOs> After uninstalling pulseaudio in unity the sound menu went away. How do you get it back?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: same as every day - ubuntu support
[06:33] <nixjr> im planning on formatting and reinstalling ubuntu, I have a dual monitor setup configured just the way I like it, which file(s) should I backup to keep this configuration?
[06:33] <kokabiel|ngopi> Wew
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: which video chip do you use and how did you configure it?
[06:36] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, i configured it via a text file but i dont recall where or what the file was called, its nvidia
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: does /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ring a bell ;-)
[06:37] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: back up everything in /etc
[06:37] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: my /etc is only 16 megabytes
[06:38] <agu_> hi
[06:38] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: actually you should really be backing up everything in /etc and /home on a regular basis, to save yourself frustrations later
[06:38] <kokabiel|ngopi> ActionParsnip: any idea how to configur ATI Radeon on kernel3?
[06:38] <nixjr> i backup home, but thats all, dont really understand the rest of the directory structure
[06:39] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, thanks, that was what i was looking for
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: kernel 3 isn't supported here
[06:39] <kokabiel|ngopi> Wew
[06:39] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: /home contains per-user settings, /etc contains systemwide settings (in general).
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: if you are using oneiric, you are supported until release day in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: so if you set up a samba share (file sharing with windows/other types of computers), the settings would go in /etc/samba
[06:40] <kokabiel|ngopi> ActionParsnip: my os have built in kernel3
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: then its not ubuntu
[06:41] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: you can't go wrong backing up /etc, it's very tiny. Here's my backup list: /home, /etc, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin (the latter two are for scripts, you can skip them if you didn't write any)
[06:41] <nixjr> Shirakawasuna, ah ok, well my /etc is only 13mb so thats not a problem to backup
[06:42] <kokabiel|ngopi> ActionParsnip: here only talk ubuntu?
[06:42] <soreau> nixjr: xorg.conf is probably the main file you want to backup X driver config settings
[06:42] <hexacode> anyone know where i save ttf files?  im installing fonts except i foget which foldr to put them in
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: yes
[06:42] <soreau> kokabiel|ngopi: Yes, this is the official support channel for ubuntu
[06:42] <DoverOs> does anyone know what the sound menu is packaged in?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | hexacode
[06:43] <soreau> DoverOs: Look at the packages that were removed when you uninstalled pulseaudio
[06:43] <nixjr> Shirakawasuna, is there a simple way to output the contents of the "applications" menu in gnome? theres a bunch of applications ive added over time that wernt in there to begin with
[06:43] <kokabiel|ngopi> ActionParsnip: how about another distro?
[06:43] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: /var/log might also be useful if you ever want old logs. I don't know if you do.
[06:43] <soreau> kokabiel|ngopi: ##linux might be of help
[06:43] <nixjr> cant hurt
[06:43] <kokabiel|ngopi> soreau: thanks
[06:43] <SigmaWP> Yes, finally! A logged channel!
[06:43]  * SigmaWP proceeds to take a screenshot
[06:44] <DoverOs> soreau: I reinstalled them, so it must have been something outside of the normal package setup..
[06:44]  * soreau poses
[06:44] <SigmaWP> Say hello everyone :D
[06:44] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: that should be in your user's home directory. I don't remember exactly where they're kept by gnome, but probably somewhere in .config or .local. I would check ~/.local/share/applications
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: its great backing up xorg.conf. install driver, restore file and restart x. Nice
[06:44] <soreau> DoverOs: Not sure but if you're using 11.10, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <soreau> ActionParsnip: The nice thing is when you need no xorg.conf because you use an open driver that justwroks
[06:45] <siksi> what could cause debus to function incorrectly? if i select, say, places -> home folder it says "Opening <username>" for a little while and then just disappears - nautilus never appears. ditto for rest of places
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: only official ubuntu releases from canonical are supported here. Other distros have their own channels
[06:45]  * SigmaWP presses print screen
[06:45] <siksi> s/debus/dbus/
[06:45] <SigmaWP> Done :P
[06:45] <siksi> launching nautilus with dbus-launch seems to work, however
[06:45] <DoverOs> soreau: I just installed ubuntu 11.04, didnt change any repos
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Soreau: true, when they work well (closed or open)
[06:46] <W43372> I upgraded from XP to 7 and now I can't share files between my Desktop and my netbook running Natty.
[06:46] <soreau> ActionParsnip: You always need an xorg.conf file installed for closed proprietary blobs
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Soreau:
[06:46] <soreau> ! smaba | W43372
[06:47] <soreau> ! samba | W43372
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Nvidia worked without when i was on CRT
[06:47] <susundberg> soreau: huh -- i have ati proprietary without any xorg.conf
[06:47] <soreau> susundberg: Really? Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[06:47] <nixjr> i did "sudo cp /etc/ /some/other/place" but it says cp: omitting directory `/etc/'
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> kokabiel|ngopi: which distro are you on and I may be able to point you to the relevant channel
[06:47] <soreau> nixjr: cp -r
[06:48] <nixjr> soreau, ah thank you :)
[06:48] <susundberg> soreau: sure: http://pastebin.com/5qQAPkyq
[06:48] <W43372> soreau I already have Samba on this netbook. The only thing that changed is the computer with Windows on nit
[06:49] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: don't use cp for backups, there's better options
[06:49] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: rsync is the best, in my opinion.
[06:50] <soreau> susundberg: must be ubuntu patches because X will not load a proprietary driver without being specifically told (via xorg.conf)
[06:50] <nixjr> Shirakawasuna, im just doing this once manually before I format, but ill keep that in mind for later
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shirakawasuna: cp is fine for a one off archive
[06:50] <soreau> susundberg: I notice ubuntu's X checks for fglrx even if it's not installed
[06:50] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: This is the type of command I use: rsync -avz --progress --delete --numeric-ids /etc /backup/ . Notice that /etc has no trailing slash and /backup/ does. This is important.
[06:50] <susundberg> soreau: might be very well so .. don't know
[06:50] <__future__> Hmph, it's registered.
[06:51] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: with cp you could lose (overwrite) timestamps, which can be useful for tracking things down later.
[06:51] <katsrc> hey are there any good blogs to follow for ubuntu news
[06:51] <katsrc> i mean i hate these omgubuntu posts everywhere
[06:51] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: for example, if I used cp to back up my music and had a crash, I'd never know which ones were the latest ones added.
[06:51] <__future__> katsrc: You can always look here :)
[06:52] <soreau> katsrc: You probably should hate blogs then, too
[06:52] <katsrc> omgubuntu makes the ubuntu community really look silly
[06:52]  * __future__ takes another screenshot
[06:52] <katsrc> soreau: some are good like developers
[06:52] <__future__> :D
[06:52] <W43372> I upgraded from XP to 7 and now I can't share files between my Desktop and my netbook running Natty.
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Shirakawasuna: you assume noatime option wasn't used :
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> W43372: win7 samba is nee
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> New
[06:53] <soreau> katsrc: The internet is full of ubuntu everything. To my knowledge, there are no official ubuntu blogs
[06:53] <nixjr> Shirakawasuna, interesting, ive migrated data onto newer hdds many times over there years and just took it as a given that id reset all timestamps in the process
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> W43372: which system is sharing the files?
[06:54] <katsrc> soreau: there ought to be, like with GNOME community they have this circle of blogs
[06:54] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: rsync is magic :)
[06:54] <Shirakawasuna> nixjr: it can also work over the network
[06:55]  * ActionParsnip uses a cron'd cp job to backup
[06:55] <faina> katsrc: what about planet.ubuntu.com?
[06:55] <W43372> ActionParsnip I want to be able to share files between the two, to have each box see the others shared folders
[06:55] <W43372> But currently neither one is showing up on the other
[06:55] <katsrc> faina: never heard of it before
[06:56] <faina> its aggregating several ubuntu related blogs
[06:56] <Geoffrey2> I've got a 33-in-1 card reader in my Ubuntu desktop, the chipset is Genesys...lsusb detects it, but I can't seem to read any sd cards I put into it...I tried the google routine, but all I see are posts with questions that never seem to get answered....
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> W43372: if you run: smbtree   can you see shares? Is the windows systems firewall configured to allow the data?
[06:56] <katsrc> faina: thanks for this, looks like a great resource
[06:56] <houtyl> how do i chance the ubuntu language?
[06:57] <faina> katsrc: youre welcome
[06:58] <W43372> I just remembered that I haven't set up anything on the windows end yet, I'll tinker with it some more.
[06:58] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: does it produce useful output in dmesg after being plugged in w/ a sd card?
[06:59] <mcgoofy> hi
[07:02] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, looks like it
[07:02] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: does it list the availability of any partitions like /dev/sdb1?
[07:03] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, http://pastebin.com/nw8M7JF2
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: it doesn't say anything about sdb1 or sdb2 later on?
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: does sudo fdisk -l say anything about sdb?
[07:06] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, hmmm, sg3, sg4, sg5, sg6, and sg7?
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> I'm not sure what those are, actually
[07:07] <faina> Shirakawasuna:  aren't sg's "scsi general"?
[07:07] <Shirakawasuna> apparently
[07:07] <Shirakawasuna> this is old but maybe useful, Geoffrey2: http://www.electrictoolbox.com/scan-scsi-bus-linux/
[07:08] <Geoffrey2> it tells me it found a new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
[07:09] <Geoffrey2> scsi46: usb-storage
[07:09] <arkiver> hello. I run ubuntu 10.04 on a Dell laptop N5010 with an i5 processor, 4GB ram, 500GB HDD.
[07:09] <arkiver> The problem i face is my laptop gets really heated up while using for a long time
[07:09] <paulus68> I have a backup script which is functioning correctly however after a complete backup my drive is full and I don't have any free space left,
[07:10] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: he ehci_hcd and usb-storage messages are a good sign. They're usb modules (drivers) for usb and storage, respectively
[07:10] <paulus68> is there a way to create a script that checks the diskspace and if I don't have enough free space that the largest file is moved to another drive
[07:10] <Shirakawasuna> Geoffrey2: I don't really know how to deal with /dev/sg nodes, but it appears you may be able to figure out what they mean and map them to other nodes for easier use
[07:10] <arkiver> the temp goes for about 60 degrees after half an hour of use with no Heavy apps runningg, just xchat, firefox and maybe a movie running
[07:11] <arkiver> it varies from 55-60 degrees..
[07:11] <soreau> huh
[07:11] <soreau> Isn't there a way to view page source in firefox?
[07:11] <arkiver> the temp is not an issue but the noise of the fan is..
[07:11] <arkiver> Also on windows i never hear the fan whirr so much
[07:11] <houtyl> how to chance the ubuntu language?
[07:11] <arkiver> is there any tweak i can use?
[07:12] <Shirakawasuna> paulus68: du -sh (or just du -s) will give you the size of files. If you're talking about doing this in a single directory, you could probably bash script it - have it check every minute or something (or on a cron job). If it's systemwide, you're going to need a specialized tool of some kind to check for the 'largest file' in the system.
[07:12] <Shirakawasuna> soreau: yes
[07:12] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: how? where?
[07:13] <Gentoo64> soreau, right click the page
[07:13] <Gentoo64> view page source
[07:13] <Shirakawasuna> that ^
[07:13] <Shirakawasuna> looks like view > page source is gone though, I panicked too soreau
[07:13] <soreau> ah yes, thanks Gentoo64
[07:13] <houtyl> i want to switch to english
[07:14] <houtyl> but i don't find the right button
[07:14] <Shirakawasuna> arkiver: you probably need power management stuff of some kind. See if anyone with your same laptop needed any more modules to be loaded
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> houtyl: switch what to English?
[07:14] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: Yea that's where I remembered seeing it
[07:15] <houtyl> the whole ubuntu-system
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> houtyl: regional settings maybe..
[07:17] <houtyl> i don't find regional settings
[07:18] <nergal_> hi, would updating the DNS servers in resolv.conf affect the service uptime for a server? (switching between two pair of active DNS servers)
[07:19] <nergal_> My guess is not, just want to make sure
[07:19] <SwedeMike> nergal_: update only changes if you reboot.
[07:19] <soreau> houtyl: Try gnome-language-selector
[07:19] <GirlyGirl> Hi I would like to know how to force an unvavailable resolution for a tv connected via VGA on a laptop
[07:20] <SwedeMike> nergal_: and no, it shouldn't be service affecting, it'll change immediately when you save the new resolv.conf file
[07:20] <nergal_> SwedeMike: what? A reboot is required for changing dns-servers?
[07:20] <SwedeMike> nergal_: you used the word "uptime".
[07:20] <Shirakawasuna> houtyl: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[07:20] <SwedeMike> nergal_: uptime is something specific here, it's not "service is available"
[07:20] <nergal_> service uptime yes
[07:20] <Shirakawasuna> but it's a little outdated
[07:20] <SwedeMike> nergal_: don't use "uptime", it's confusing.
[07:20] <Shirakawasuna> houtyl: basically search the app lens for 'session' or 'language'
[07:20] <SwedeMike> nergal_: $ uptime
[07:20] <SwedeMike>  09:20:54 up 205 days, 21:51,  7 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.10, 0.09
[07:21] <SwedeMike> nergal_: that is "uptime".
[07:21] <arkiver> Shirakawasuna, i am not sure of anyone else using the same laptop . But before ubuntu i used mint10 and i had the same issues.
[07:21] <arkiver> a solution is to use a cooling pd
[07:21] <paulus68> Shirakawasuna: the thing is that I need to check this after the backup script has run if I don't have any or no space left I want to create a script that is going to move the file towards the new location
[07:21] <arkiver> *pad
[07:22] <nergal_> well, I guess you understood what I meant :)
[07:22] <Shirakawasuna> arkiver: by someone else, I mean google for the exact model and find someone else who wrote a guide. Hopefully there's one out there and they talk about power management or acpi
[07:22] <SwedeMike> nergal_: yes, eventually.
[07:22] <arkiver> also if anyone here is using ubuntu on a laptop, can u tell me what temperatures do your laptops work on?
[07:22] <arkiver> Shirakawasuna, okay i think i can do that
[07:23] <arkiver> Thanks
[07:23] <Shirakawasuna> arkiver: sure thing. It's annoying to search, but it's the most useful thing imo :/. It's how I got acpi working on my thinkpad before the support was automatic in the kernel.
[07:23] <faina> arkiver: it really depends on the laptop design & how well the power management is enabled.
[07:24] <Shirakawasuna> arkiver: also my thinkpad runs really cool.
[07:25] <Shirakawasuna> arkiver: also see if there's any processes running that are making your processor run all the time, which will heat up your system (use top)
[07:26] <Shirakawasuna> paulus68: You don't want to run into a situation where you're actually out of space on either drive. It will corrupt parts of the filesystem. You want something that will check the space available and do the safe thing.
[07:26] <arkiver> I had that. Top shows nothing more than 10% of CPU usage
[07:26] <phlak_user> soreau: Go to tools-Web developer-view page source (ctl+u is a shortcut)
[07:26] <faina> arkiver: also look into powertop
[07:26] <arkiver> I'm wondering whether 50-60degrees is normal temp for laptops?
[07:27] <faina> its not uncommon
[07:27] <faina> is that surface temperature or cpu temperature?
[07:27] <faina> also is that a desktop replacement style laptop?
[07:28] <soreau> phlak_user: Yes, it is there indeed. Thanks
[07:28] <phlak_user> soreau: yw
[07:28] <arkiver> CPU temperature
[07:29] <arkiver> faina, Is it safe to use Powertop? it needs root privileges!
[07:30] <Geoffrey2> Shirakawasuna, hmm, apparently /dev/sg2 is mapped to /dev/scd1, but when I try to mount scd1, I get an error that says there is no medium on /dev/sr1
[07:30] <linxeh> some laptops hit 90c
[07:31] <phlak_user> Geoffrey2: thats the cdrom
[07:31] <faina> arkiver: I've run it and haven't observed anything going wrong, though I haven't done a security analysis
[07:35] <drussell> arkiver: it's pretty safe afaik
[07:36] <paulus68> Shirakawasuna: I know however it's on an external hard drive and (yes I have to replace it with a bigger one) but in the mean time I need to keep an eye on it
[07:36] <faina> G'night
[07:37] <gvandeweyer> where/how do I tell dpkg that I have python2.6 instead of python2.7 as default on my system? I need to install some older deb and dpkg complains about the python version.
[07:38] <Shirakawasuna> buh, wha? I plug in my headphones, audio goes out in my speakers (correct behavior), but no sound to the headphones (incorrect behavior)
[07:38] <GirlyGirl> gvandeweyer: Can't find a newer deb
[07:38] <GirlyGirl> gvandeweyer: What are you installing exactly
[07:38] <gvandeweyer> GirlyGirl: I need the older version (dependencies)
[07:39] <houtyl> now i translated ubuntu into english
[07:39] <GirlyGirl> gvandeweyer: What is it you are installing
[07:39] <houtyl> but firefox is still german
[07:39] <houtyl> do i need another package?
[07:39] <phlak_user> gvandeweyer: you could do a "force" install or "no-deps"
[07:39] <GirlyGirl> phlak_user: That would probably break things
[07:40] <szal> houtyl: prolly firefox-locale-en
[07:40] <gvandeweyer> GirlyGirl: it's a lucid deb on a natty system of python-rpy. I need the older version of R (bioconductor version, needs to be in sync with some LTS lucid systems,), so the newer python-rpy tries to update r-base, which is not allowed
[07:40] <marcreichelt> hi there!
[07:41] <marcreichelt> I need to reset my Empathy program, but I don't know how
[07:41] <marcreichelt> is there anything I need to do beside removing ~/.mission-control and ~/.config/Empathy?
[07:41] <gvandeweyer> phlak_user: no-deps is not recognised or in dpkg man
[07:41] <GirlyGirl> gvandeweyer: Can't you upgrade the lucid systems as downgrading python on Natty can have bad consequences and break Ubuntu components
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> phlak_user, duh, I see it, sg3 is the card reader, sg2 is the cdrom....
[07:41] <gvandeweyer> GirlyGirl: there is no LTS yet after lucid