[00:24] <azbyin> hi all..
[00:25] <azbyin> i've got a windows2003 virtual running within kvm. I have enabled remote desktop within the virtual machine. How do I now access this remote desktop when connecting from outside my linux box?
[00:26] <azbyin> i tried rdp over an ssh tunnel, but am unable to get a connection to the internal vm
[01:31] <guideX> I know this is a little off topic, but how do I point my ubuntu 12.10 lamp apache to a website on my hard drive? I did the etc/hosts, or maybe someone knows a good link
[01:32] <guideX> i've already done the etc/hosts part
[01:35] <patdk-lap> dunno what /etc/hosts has to do with it at all
[01:35] <patdk-lap> you need to do something in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/
[01:35] <guideX> oh so I can type dev.mywebsite.com in the browser
[01:35] <guideX> ah ok
[01:36] <guideX> i will check etc/apache/sites-enabled
[01:37] <guideX> hmm there is no apache folder in etc
[01:37] <guideX> I had this problem with a tutorial i found too
[01:48] <virusuy_> guideX: do you want to resolve dev.mywebsite.com locally, right ?
[01:48] <virusuy_> so, if you go to dev.mywebsite.com , will show your local lamp server
[01:49] <virusuy_> right ?
[01:50] <guideX> yes
[01:51] <guideX> I think I have that part working, but how do I setup the site too?
[01:51] <guideX> how do I tell apache where my site is
[01:51] <virusuy_> where do you have it ?
[01:52] <virusuy_> in wich directory ?
[01:52] <guideX> hmm 1 sec..
[01:52] <guideX> let me find the patrgh
[01:52] <virusuy_> apache by default looks at /var/www
[01:53] <guideX> I have it in /home/ubuntu/dev
[01:53] <guideX> and then a folder off of that
[01:53] <virusuy_> then just copy your folder to /var/www
[01:53] <guideX> oh
[01:53] <guideX> so only one at a time? I was hopeing to dev others from this server
[01:54] <virusuy_> oh
[01:54] <guideX> was hopeing I could do like dev.whatev.com and dev.whatev2.com etc
[01:54] <guideX> pointing to different folders
[01:54] <virusuy_> and point those to diff folds?
[01:54] <guideX> yeah
[01:54] <virusuy_> oh, then take a look at this
[01:55] <virusuy_> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html
[01:55] <guideX> cool thanks
[01:55] <virusuy_> That will explain (even better than me) how set up what do you want
[01:55] <guideX> i'm checking it out now, thx
[01:57] <virusuy_> yw
[01:59] <guideX> ah so just make new files in sites-available eh
[02:01] <azbyin> guideX, yes.. then just symlink them into sites-enabled as you need them or just use a2enmod (which does pretty much the same thing for you)
[02:02] <azbyin> err.. a2ensite
[02:02] <guideX> in a gui?
[02:02] <guideX> I would much perfer that heh
[02:02] <guideX> I will check that out
[02:02] <azbyin> nah, its not a gui.. after you make the conf in sites-available you need to enable it
[02:03] <guideX> ah ok
[02:03] <azbyin> the process is really just: (i) make symlink in sites-enabled (ii) reload apache conf
[02:04] <guideX> hmm ok
[02:17] <guideX> heh I don't think it worked
[02:17] <guideX> but I learned a lot more, thanks i'll keep trying
[02:21] <Darm0k> hi
[02:21] <Darm0k> do i need to re-compile a module with change from 3.5-0.22 to 23?
[02:22] <Darm0k> hi
[02:22] <Darm0k> i hope no because i don't know to compile the module with another knerl
[02:27] <guideX> is there some way to troubleshoot when it's not working
[02:28] <guideX> when I put my virtual host in the url the page doesn't come up
[02:29] <guideX> is there a tool that does this for you?
[02:29] <guideX> for noobs like me?
[02:30] <guideX> like iis manager...
[02:51] <guideX> when I run 'service apache2 reload' i get these errors, do you know what to do? www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=39093
[02:58] <azbyin> guideX, did you run: sudo service apache2 reload   ? or did you run it without sudo?
[02:58] <guideX> after sudo it's better, but not perfect.. I still get the namevirtual host error..
[02:58] <guideX> is there something wrong with my sites-available file? www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=39094
[03:00] <guideX> I still go to the "It works!" page when visiting dev.testsite.com
[03:00] <guideX> not my test page
[03:04] <guideX> any ideas?
[03:05] <azbyin> guideX, change <VirtualHost *> to <VirtualHost *:80>
[03:05] <guideX> ok
[03:05] <azbyin> try that, otherwise you need to /join #apache  and ask there :)
[03:06] <guideX> i'm there
[03:06] <azbyin> also, just try sudo service apache2 restart
[03:06] <azbyin> just to be sure there are no issues with simply reloading the confs. (there really shouldn;t be any issue with just reloading)
[03:07] <guideX> omg it worked
[03:07] <guideX> thanks!
[03:07] <guideX> I see my test page
[03:08] <azbyin> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#virtualhost  if you read that page, it says: ... Addr can be: * the ip addr of vhost, * fqdn (not recommended), * the character '*', which is used only in combination with 'NameVirtualHost *' to match all IP addrs, or * the string _default_
[03:09] <guideX> oh i see
[03:10] <azbyin> and the first example actually uses *:80,  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[03:10] <azbyin> even though it actually has NameVirtualHost *:80
[03:16] <azbyin> guideX, theres something called webmin, it provides a web interface for system management. not sure how good its apache conf integration is
[03:16] <guideX> hmm I will give it a shot, it might be quicker for me.. I'm more used to iis7 which has a ui you can deal with instead of these commands which for me are intimidating atm
[03:20] <azbyin> sure will be intimidating now, but trust me editing the conf file (and having this insanely good documentation) provides much more flexibility (+power) :)
[03:33] <guideX> does zend pages require an install?
[03:33] <guideX> or just lamp + mysql will do
[03:56] <Deep6> anyone here done ldap based layered autofs mounts?
[04:14] <thomedy> help help help please
[04:14] <thomedy> i have a  a lamp install and i idid it at xampp for linux... and when i started it i found that i had a webserver running already so istopped that an dhtne it said ihad a webserver with ssl running already so i followed the steps at the ubuntu website and now ican start it
[04:14] <thomedy> but i cant get localhost/xampp
[05:29] <SpinningWheels> any weigh-ins on best method to mount a folder from a remote machine over a LAN (encryption not necessary).
[05:32] <qman__> sshfs is the simplest, since you probably already have ssh installed
[05:33] <qman__> other common options are nfs and cifs/samba
[05:33] <SpinningWheels> awesome, thanks for the suggestions
[05:34] <thomedy> please help
[05:34] <thomedy> i finally got lampp / xampp re running on my comp
[05:34] <thomedy> but they have  anew security concept that is ruining my day
[05:35] <thomedy> i googled it and followed a couple tuts and restarted /opt/lamp/lamp
[05:35] <thomedy> but still no access
[05:35] <thomedy> its gotta be local
[05:35] <thomedy> i am local
[05:35] <qman__> that's not a supported configuration
[05:35] <thomedy> what one am i supposed to use
[05:35] <qman__> you should use the ubuntu server guide on LAMP to set up your web server
[05:36] <thomedy> i juwt want to right code here.. im getting frustraited
[05:36] <qman__> start over using the server guide, not the xampp setup
[05:36] <thomedy> okay... i know this is ubuntu and i should command line the shit  out of everything but ihave everything im doing already i just need my server im sorry .. your aamazing and awesome for helping
[05:36] <thomedy> is this going to be quic
[05:37] <qman__> yes
[05:37] <qman__> it takes about 15 minutes
[05:37] <cfhowlett> thomedy, it's a server.  Not likely to be "quic"
[05:37] <thomedy> okay thank you.. i can do 15 as long as i can see an end in site
[05:37] <qman__> you install from disc as normal, then at the end, you check the box next to LAMP
[05:37] <Deep6> SpinningWheels: autofs
[05:37] <qman__> drop your files in /var/www
[05:37] <qman__> that's all there is to it
[05:38] <thomedy> wait i cant reinstall my ubuuntu... is that what your recommending?... am i being difficult... this was working 3 hours ago but i was tryi ng to set up mail and i have never done this im not so good at the admin stuff yet because my work doesn't cal for it all that much
[05:38] <thomedy> do i have to reinstall ubuntu to do this
[05:39] <qman__> yes, I am recommending you reinstall ubuntu, because you've installed third party software manually, which can (and probably has) break the built in software
[05:39] <Darm0k> how to depmod for a other kernel e.g instead 3.5.22 3.5.33 if running 3.5.22
[05:39] <thomedy> okay while i realize that what your recommending is absolutely right... thats just not an option for me.. so if that means your unwilling to help.. i understand and i still think your great
[05:39] <SpinningWheels> autofs doesnt sound like what i need, but that does sound very useful. :P
[05:40] <Darm0k> i have to install a driver into 23
[06:37] <SpinningWheels> i've got 8 different verions in my /boot, do i get rid of them by deleting them or is there some process that i need to use?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> SpinningWheels, I'm assuming you mean old kernels.  you can delete, but best practice is to keep at least ONE old version in case an upgraded kernel breaks your system
[06:39] <SpinningWheels> yes, and okay. thx
[08:35] <sword23> any one use ksplice?
[10:34] <yolanda> hi, i tried to install mongodb package on raring, but service isn't starting, and doesn't write any logs, do you know if package is working ok in raring?
[11:46] <PenguinCSC> I have a small computer technicians lab. I want to install a server to serve as a VM Machines and file sharing
[11:46] <PenguinCSC> anyone can point me to a good step-by-step guide?
[11:50] <melmoth> PenguinCSC, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/ for the vm part
[11:51] <melmoth> PenguinCSC, for file sharing, it depends what you need. Easy option are nfs ,apache or ftp.
[12:53] <D0minat0r> Hello everyone! Does nyone know if its possible to make rar arhcive on ubuntu server?
[12:54] <D0minat0r> I got Sample.mp3 that i want to make to Sample.r1 Sample.r2 and so on, like a scene released is packed
[13:02] <RoyK> D0minat0r: 7z supports rar
[13:03] <sandstrom> Something on my machine is sending emails, `/var/log/mail.log` shows about 1 attempt per minute, how can I investigate?
[13:06] <RoyK> sandstrom: can you pastebin some logs?
[13:07] <sandstrom> RoyK: yes
[13:08] <sandstrom> RoyK: http://pastie.org/private/cfamt4poa1mil8m3gjblg
[13:09] <RoyK> hm... dunno, sorry
[13:09] <sandstrom> RoyK: there is a sendmail process started every minute, can I run some commmand that shows what script/process initiates sendmail?
[13:10] <RoyK> check cron
[13:12] <sandstrom> RoyK: It's not a cron job
[13:13] <melmoth> sandstrom, what does the logs says ? you should have a sender adress there.
[13:13] <RoyK> dunno, then - I don't use that MTA
[13:13] <melmoth> as well as a recipient
[13:13] <RoyK> melmoth: doesn't look like sSMTP even logs that
[13:13]  * RoyK sticks to postfix
[13:14] <melmoth> ahh, ssmtp. this will not help :)
[13:14] <sandstrom> I tried disabling the cron scripts under `crontab -e` and it keeps trying to send. But perhaps I shouldn't rule out cron entirely, it could be the cron job of some other user too.
[13:15] <melmoth> can you send mail with ssmtp ?
[13:15] <melmoth> may be it s doing this for each and every mail ?
[13:16] <melmoth> and may be the error message that should be bounced got trap in an infinite loop this way or something ?
[13:16] <sandstrom> I just got this `www-data 29488  0.0  0.1  32648  1960 ?        S    Apr02   0:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail -i -FCronDaemon -oem www-data` off ps aux
[13:16] <melmoth> looks like a web application is trying to send mail (www-data)
[13:16] <melmoth> i wonder what the -F option is for
[13:18] <RoyK> sandstrom: check /etc/cron*
[13:19] <RoyK> or perhaps try to stop cron for a few minutes
[13:29] <sandstrom> I've shut down the webserver, that didn't make any difference.  Please answer allthe questions you like
[13:43] <_ruben> ;)
[13:43] <IdleOne> some of the ones you don't like also, just keep it clean :)
[13:48] <sandstrom> _ruben and RoyK Thanks, it was indeed a crontab for www-data, it's squelched now. Your help is much appreciated!
[13:53] <_ruben> good :)
[14:03] <zul> Daviey: im going to re-upload python-pecan with a fixed debian/copyright this ftbfs for ceilometer is starting to bug me
[14:04] <D0minat0r> Anyone knows any good video splitter for ubuntu server?
[14:04] <Daviey> zul: there is a new dep that yolanda is working on aswell
[14:04] <zul> Daviey:  w3m?
[14:05] <Daviey> hah, no
[14:05] <Daviey> it's in her PPA.. maybe she needs sponsorhsip?
[14:05] <zul> is the the one i reviewed on friday?
[14:05] <Daviey> talk of the devil
[14:07] <yolanda> i reboot a minute and i loose all the fun :)
[14:07] <yolanda> zul, yes, the python-wsme dep
[14:07] <zul> yolanda: cool which ppa is it in?
[14:07] <yolanda> zul, it's only the source in my launchpad branch
[14:08] <zul> yolanda: heh url please im kind of lazy this morning :)
[14:08] <yolanda> https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/+junk/python-wsme
[14:13] <zul> cool thanks ill get it uploaded today
[14:34] <yolanda> great
[14:51] <huttan> Anyone here who are familiar with configuring ldap server/clients? I have some problem with shared sudo authentication
[15:20] <therianthrope> Hey there. I am here to see if there is a way to report abuse and get information about a user of try.cloud.ubuntu.com who connected to my IRC network and compromised some NickServ passwords.
[15:21] <therianthrope> We have dates and times of the attack, as well as IP and Hostmask. Who can we contact for an abuse report?
[15:24] <patdk-wk> this is normally why there is an abuse address for ip addresses
[15:25] <therianthrope> The user was using a try ubuntu cloud account. The abuse contact was AWS.
[15:26] <patdk-wk> ah, it's hosted in ec2
[15:26] <therianthrope> AWS provided no help, saying they don't control the IP in question.
[15:27] <therianthrope> Does canonical have an address I can contact for people spawning these free trial servers and committing abuse against our IRC network? We have banned access from them, but this user needs to be delt with.
[15:30] <therianthrope> Is there any abuse address for the service?
[15:41] <zul> therianthrope: you might be able to use the feedback form
[15:44] <RoyK> therianthrope: I beleive #freenode is a good place to start
[15:44] <therianthrope> this has nothing to do with freenode.
[15:45] <therianthrope> This user abused -my- IRC network, from -your- service.
[15:45] <RoyK> oh
[15:45] <RoyK> *your* network
[15:45]  * therianthrope nods.
[15:45] <Myrtti> from Canonicals service
[15:45] <RoyK> usually<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:45] <Myrtti> not "our"
[15:48] <ilj> hi, I was wondering how to interpret {a} in linux-headers-3.2.0-34{a}. I see that when I do aptitude install linux-headers-3.2.0-34. When I was removing other kernels, aptitude sweeped 3.2.0-34 as well and showed it as linux-headers-3.2.0-34{u}. What do {a} and {u} mean?
[16:37] <the_rat> Hello. I'm setting up a KVM machine with vmbuilder but I get a problem
[16:38] <the_rat> I run vmbuilder and it creates the qcow2 files, but it doesn't define a domain. I can't see it in virsh list --all
[16:39] <the_rat> The command I run is something like: sudo vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite precise --flavour virtual --arch i386 -o --ip <IP_ADDRESS> --hostname davide --part vmbuilder.partition --user davide --name davide --pass pass
[16:39] <the_rat> I don't even know where to start debugging this. I see no error logs
[17:19] <the_rat> Ok, this is the output from vmbuilder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609761/
[17:59] <zul> jamespage:  ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystone-ftbfs/+merge/146482
[18:38] <ruben231> hi guys how do i install ldap dependency..? or development..?
[18:39] <ruben231> anyone have idea
[18:51] <adam_g> Daviey: jamespage i'd like to put together the next round of openstack SRUs today. was it decided whether we want new ubuntu bug tasks for upstream bugs? re-reading discussion in #Ubuntu-release last week, seems like it can still go either way
[18:53] <ruben231> hi guys how to install ldap dependency with ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[19:12] <jck77> anyone with knowledge on Tandberg tape backups ? TS400 ?
[19:14] <zul> adam_g: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystone-ftbfs/+merge/146482
[19:18] <RoyK> jck77: isn't that lto-2?
[19:19] <hallyn> roaksoax: hey!
[19:19] <hallyn> roaksoax: could I get you to take a look at, and consider sponsoring, http://people.canonical.com/~serge/spice-tests.debdiff ?
[19:20] <jck77> RoyK: yes
[19:20] <jck77> I thing I just figured out
[19:20] <hallyn> roaksoax: this could be the last step in getting spice MIRd so we can watch beautiful video from qemu from main
[19:20] <adam_g> zul: thought i approved ?
[19:20] <jck77> think*
[19:20] <RoyK> jck77: what backup software?
[19:21] <zul> adam_g: ah ok i didnt see it
[19:22] <jck77> bat
[19:23] <jck77> but I can't see the tape on the GUI
[19:23] <patdk-wk> bat?
[19:24] <jck77> bacula
[19:24] <RoyK> try #bacula
[19:25] <jck77> thx
[19:30] <jamespage> adam_g, new ubuntu bug tasks are not required.
[19:31]  * jamespage looks at bug bug 1069597
[19:32] <adam_g> jamespage: i know they are not required, but do we want them? im looking at the new stable nova release, there are 0 bugs with ubuntu tasks.
[19:33] <adam_g> (assuming we tag anything we open v-done)
[19:33] <jamespage> adam_g, no - under the terms of the MRE they are not required :-)
[19:33] <jamespage> it sufficient to generate the changelog and reference the bugs but not actually close them
[19:34] <jamespage> adam_g, if that makes any sort of sense
[19:36] <Daviey> smoser: Hey.. If i wanted to run cloud-init on first boot from a d-i install, with a preseeded config (nocloud).. [what work do you think would be involved?
[19:37] <smoser> you'd have to buy me a beer.
[19:37] <smoser> are you asking how you woudl write the 'nocloud' datasource ?
[19:37] <Daviey> smoser: no.. I'm asking for a d-i preseed to JFDI ;)
[19:38] <smoser> so you want to input a blob of cloud-config to d-i ?
[19:38] <Daviey> smoser: I wonder how well cloud-init works with a d-i install
[19:39] <Daviey> smoser: No, i want to pre-declare during d-i some code to run on first boot.  With cloud-init being the harness
[19:39] <adam_g> jamespage: by that you mean, continue to include bot parsable bug references in the changelog?
[19:40] <Daviey> smoser: ie, run cloud-init on first boot, with a pre-provided datasource.
[19:40] <smoser> right. so this is essentially a combination of how maas interacts with cloud-init
[19:40] <Daviey> smoser: yeah!
[19:40] <smoser> and how i was invoking the fast path installer
[19:42] <jamespage> adam_g: yes - so if a end-user wants to check the openstack project bug report out thats fine
[19:42] <jamespage> so (LP: XXXXXX) rather than (LP: #XXXXXX) which would also generate a Closes
[19:43] <jamespage> adam_g: I think most ubuntu based terminals will understand how to link to that :-)
[19:44] <adam_g> jamespage: still unclear to me, sorry. we want bugs /w no ubuntu task to use the (LP: XXXXXX) format and those /w ubuntu tasks to use the (LP: #XXXXXXX) ?
[19:45] <Daviey> adam_g: If there is already a ubuntu bug task then give it a proper closes statement, if there isn't a ubuntu bug task... then use the fake format
[19:45] <Daviey> adam_g: Ie, don't open tasks purely for SRU procure  - creating noise
[19:46] <Daviey> adam_g: "Nova fails to properly initiate iptables on centos" wouldn't require a ubuntu task.
[19:46] <Daviey> jamespage: That is your understanding, right?
[19:47] <Daviey> adam_g: As we already poll LP with the tooling we wrote, it shouldn't be that complicated, right?
[19:47] <smoser> Daviey, it can work. and we can/should make the nocloud datasource be selectable all from config.
[19:48] <Daviey> smoser: do you have capacity to write a quick standalone preseed demoing this?
[19:48] <jamespage> adam_g, Daviey: yes that is my understanding
[19:49] <smoser> Daviey, i can. give me a minute to finish up what i was working on
[19:49] <sweettea> Anyone know how to increase the number of written leases on a dhcpd server?
[19:49] <Daviey> smoser: thanks :D
[19:51] <adam_g> Daviey: right, its a tiny change. my concern is whether or not a proposed SRU with *no* related ubuntu bug tasks actually shows up on the SRU radar (except the meta-bug, if we still do that?)
[19:52] <sweettea> I think my dhcpd server is not sending out more addresses b/c of a limitation the dhcp.leases file has
[19:53] <sweettea> dhcpd: Wrote 200 leases to leases file.
[19:53] <sweettea> the range is much higher
[19:53] <sweettea> but it always writes only 200 leases on this file
[20:02] <RoyK> jck77: bacula is a great backup system, but is has a rather steep learning curve
[20:03] <Daviey> I think we are still doing the metabug, jamespage ^ ?
[20:08] <jck77> RoyK: I can see
[20:08] <jck77> a lot of doc to read
[20:09] <RoyK> jck77: yes, or ask on #bacula - specific questions are usually answered quickly
[20:14] <yolanda> i have a new nice template here: http://serverteam.ysoft.biz/ - comments, proposals? i will only accept the nice ones :)
[20:18] <patdk-wk> yolanda, sadly, that hurts my eyes
[20:18] <TheLordOfTime> what patdk-wk said
[20:20] <hallyn> roaksoax: uh, on second thought, please DISREGARD my request about spice
[21:00] <genii-around> I thought perhaps someone in here may know... If I have some old telco stuff someone wants to pick up for free, is there a good channel to announce that in on freenode?
[21:01] <genii-around> eg: Norstar ( Meridian) NT5B20 wallmount with DR5 module.. Bayly OMNIflex 19" rackmount with T1 Quad card 051539, one PairGain HRU-402 HDSL endpoint card in single card enclosure box, one ADC H2TU-R-402 HDSL endpoint card in double card enclosure box.
[21:40] <jaimevg123> Buenas, sucede lo siguiente: Ando en la configuracion de una VPN utilizando openVPN sobre ubuntu 12.04, no es la version server pero ya esta adapatado y tiene un server funcionando sobre el. Para la configuracion de la VPN he seguido el siguiente manual (http://www.deigher.com/2012/07/instalar-openvpn-en-ubuntu-12-04-lts/), todo marcha bien, tanto el server como los clientes los he configurado y me generan la interfaz tun0, a la hora de llevar a c
[21:41] <jaimevg123> Correcion: he intentado solucionarlo pero sigo .... (Si he intentado)
[22:00] <sarnold> jaimevg123: try #ubuntu-es ?
[22:03] <jaimevg123> sarnold, I tried that, no one gives me solution
[22:04] <jaimevg123> really, I need to fix this. If I have to speak in another language I'll try
[22:04] <sarnold> jaimevg123: can you restate the problem in english? (your english is better than my spanish :)
[22:04] <jaimevg123> mmm ok wait
[22:12] <jaimevg123> I set up a VPN with OpenVPN. I follow the current system configuration of a server, given by the official documentation canonical, (https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openvpn.html), I set the keys for the server and one client. When you reboot after changing openvpn server.conf and client.conf files generated tun0 interface. I try to initialize openvpn with the following in the terminal: openvpn server.conf and get the following: http://pas
[22:12] <sarnold> jaimevg123: you were cut off at "get the following: http://pas"
[22:13] <jaimevg123> mmmm
[22:13] <jaimevg123> the following  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1610433/ . I tried to resolve it, but I could not. If anyone has any comments, ideas, or possible solution thank you very much
[22:15] <jaimevg123> when I try to make the connection between the server and the client, the client is trying to make the connections infinitely. Both are under Ubuntu 12.04
[22:17] <sarnold> jaimevg123: rather than "openvpn server.conf" -- try /etc/init.d/openvpn restart
[22:18] <jaimevg123> I did that before openvpn server.conf
[22:21] <sarnold> jaimevg123: why are you running "openvpn server.conf" by hand? you should let the initscript do everything for you..
[22:23] <jaimevg123> If you're right, but I have not been able to establish the connection and I'm trying everything.
[22:24] <sarnold> jaimevg123: "TCP/UDP: Socket bind failed on local address [undef]: Address already in use"
[22:24] <sarnold> jaimevg123: that says to me that the program is already running -- and trying to run another copy of it has failed
[22:25] <sarnold> jaimevg123: I recommend, /etc/init.d/openvpn restart -- then try to connect with a client -- then look in the openvpn server logs for errors
[22:25] <jaimevg123> ok y try
[22:25] <jaimevg123> I try
[22:29] <jaimevg123> sarnold, look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1610574/
[22:31] <jaimevg123> but still can not make the connection between the server and the client.
[22:31] <sarnold> jaimevg123: have you tried connecting a client yet?
[22:31] <sarnold> jaimevg123: does the client provide any good logs? or an error message?
[22:34] <jaimevg123> tun0 interface generates me, but I have not looked at the syslog
[22:35] <maco> i followed this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and can now send and receive email from the command line (but haven't figured out how to specify which of my domains to use on the From when  using the "mail" command) or receive over imap to my phone, but i can't send from my phone through my server
[22:35] <maco> netstat only shows unix sockets for smtpd, not any tcp sockets
[22:35] <maco> how do i fix postfix to let me send email with my imap'ified phone?
[22:49] <ikonia> maco: postfix is just an smpt server, it's not an imap server
[22:49] <maco> ikonia: courier-imap is doing the imap side of things
[22:50] <sarnold> .. but not being able to send is still postfix's fault :)
[22:50] <maco> my attempt at sending from phone through postfix went belly-up
[22:50] <ikonia> I may have missunderstood, what's the issue
[22:50] <maco> phone autodetected 587 as the port
[22:50] <ikonia> maco: what do you get, failed connection, a bounce etc
[22:51] <maco> phone says "cannot connect to server (cannot connect to host)"
[22:51] <zul> hallyn: i figured out the cause of that kernel-oops with qemu-nbd its a race in openstack
[22:52] <ikonia> maco: is postfix listening ?
[22:52] <maco> mmm nope apparently not. how do i make it listen then?
[22:53] <ikonia> maco: in the config file is it set to listen on the default port 25 ?
[22:54] <maco> ikonia: would that be main.cf or master.cf?
[22:54] <ikonia> ooh good question, I'd guess master.cf but I'd have to check
[22:54] <maco> i dont see anything about ports in either of them
[22:54] <ikonia> maco: lets do an easy test, "telnet localhost 25"
[22:55] <maco> ikonia: i did do that one yesterday and had it work, as i was going through the wiki page
[22:55] <ikonia> maco: is it working now ?
[22:55] <maco> yup
[22:55] <ikonia> cool, so there is an smtp daemon listening
[22:55] <ikonia> maco: so set your mail client to send via port 25
[22:55] <ikonia> what happens
[22:56] <maco> ikonia: cannot connect to server. (no valid authentication mechanism found)
[22:56] <maco> that's with "authentication" set to "automatic"
[22:57] <maco> anything else says "authentication not enabled" if i try it
[22:57] <ikonia> have you set up any auth
[22:57] <ikonia> (just scanning the wiki for what you've done)
[22:57] <maco> beyond setting a unix password?
[23:01] <ikonia> maco: just reading won't be a second
[23:02] <ikonia> maco: as I'm reading that guide, the only auth I see setup is the ip range locking
[23:02] <ikonia> maco: looks like it's only going to respond to "mynetworks" in that example
[23:02] <ikonia> main: have you set the internal network range correctly
[23:04] <maco> ikonia: i left it at the default. it didnt make sense to me to set it to include all the internal ips in rackspace...
[23:04] <ikonia> maco: that's valid
[23:05] <ikonia> maco: so that config is only going to repond/relay mail from anything in "mynetworks"
[23:05] <ikonia> maco: so you'd need to open it up, but then setup a user/auth system to stop it being relayed
[23:05] <ikonia> through
[23:06] <maco> to avoid having one of those open relays that scared me into not setting this up two years ago when i got the domain?
[23:06] <ikonia> maco: ok, so there are two things here (apologies if I'm underestimating your mail awareness)
[23:06] <ikonia> there is getting mail - and sending mail
[23:07] <maco> my mail awareness is "open relays are how your server gets blacklisted as a spammer"
[23:07] <ikonia> the domain is good for "getting" mail, and for acting as a relay, eg: I'll only relay mail for that domain
[23:07] <ikonia> however in terms of acting as a sender authentication method on the public internet, a domain won't really work (in your setup)
[23:07] <hallyn> zul: what was it?
[23:08] <ikonia> maco: basically what you've got there (from reading that config)
[23:08] <zul> hallyn: nova was destroying the container while its still running
[23:08] <ikonia> maco: is anyone can connect to your mail server to send mail to it....which is good, but only the people in mynetwork can connect to it to realy/send mail out of it
[23:08] <maco> ikonia: i just mean i wouldve liked to have user@mydomain a while ago but shied away from it because id heard how easy it is to accidentally make an open relay and i didnt want to get in trouble
[23:08] <ikonia> ahhh
[23:08] <hallyn> so actually doing rm -rf of the rootfs contents whiel it was running?
[23:09] <hallyn> zul: but really libvirt-lxc should be asked to create the container without the rootfs being in the namespace on the host...
[23:09] <ikonia> sorry, thought you where suggesting using your domain as an auth model
[23:09] <hallyn> zul: you have a fix then?
[23:09] <zul> hallyn: agreed...i need to think about it
[23:10] <zul> hallyn: probably umount the rootfs but not kill the qemu-nbd
[23:10] <hallyn> zul: oh nova kills the qemu-nbd?
[23:10] <zul> yeah
[23:11] <zul> hallyn:  it umounts then disconnect the qemu-nbd soo still thinking
[23:11] <hallyn> zul: there's no simple way to have nova not delete the container while it's running? :)
[23:11] <zul> hallyn: yeah
[23:12] <zul> it only affects qemu-nbd not lvm though
[23:13] <hallyn> zul: right, without the qemunbd process, the container gets hung (i assume) not able to read from disk.  with lvm, you have pins to keep things from unreasonably going away
[23:14] <zul> hallyn: exactly


[06:55] <ANub> hello
[06:55] <Myrtti> yes, hi?
[06:55] <ANub> when i login to ubuntuforums.org.......my username as it appears has changed and "2" has been appended in the end. Furthermore all the activity / threads / posts by me are not visible in my profile....how can i fix it...?
[06:56] <Myrtti> did you read the topic of this channel?
[06:56] <Myrtti> try at #ubuntuforums
[06:57] <ANub> yes.......ive read it and since i didn't get info from #ubuntuforums, i thought this channel might help :)
[06:57] <tsimpson> you haven't asked in #ubuntuforums
[06:58] <ANub> oh sorry.....i asked in #ubuntu...........
[06:59] <ANub> i'm gonna try in #ubuntuforums...thnx
[07:18] <dolphin-man> hi
[07:18] <dolphin-man> is anyone here
[07:19] <Myrtti> yes, hi?
[07:19] <dolphin-man> I would like to appeal my ban from #ubuntu directly to Mark Shuttleworth
[07:20] <dolphin-man> I am a long time Ubuntu user
[07:20] <dolphin-man> and I feel like my banning has been a slap in the face
[07:21] <dolphin-man> Myrtti
[07:22] <dolphin-man> I swear to god
[07:22] <dolphin-man> if I don't get unbanned from ubuntu
[07:22] <Myrtti> well the appeals process doesn't involve Mark alone at any stage of the way
[07:22] <dolphin-man> I WILL turn off Amazon ads on my Ubuntu partition
[07:23] <dolphin-man> Myrtti, at what stage does it involve him
[07:23] <Myrtti> him alone? never.
[07:23] <Myrtti> you're welcome to turn off amazon ads at anytime anyway
[07:23] <dolphin-man> okay then.
[07:24] <dolphin-man> at any rate I'd like to appeal my ban
[07:24] <Myrtti> ok, hold on, be back with you in 1 minute, something came up
[07:24] <dolphin-man> ok
[07:26] <Myrtti> (have my glasses on now)
[07:26] <Myrtti> so
[07:26] <Myrtti> why would you want to get back into #ubuntu?
[07:27] <dolphin-man> I have technical issues that I need to troubleshoot
[07:27] <Myrtti> ok, could you tell me what kind of technical issue?
[07:29] <Myrtti> I see.
[07:31] <dolphin-man> sorry
[07:31] <dolphin-man> I was talking to someone in real life
[07:32] <dolphin-man> Myrtti, I've used Ubuntu for torrenting and for some reason when I'm on Ubuntu and I want to download a tv show or movie for example
[07:32] <dolphin-man> the DL rate is capped at around 10 kb/s to 12 kb/s
[07:32] <dolphin-man> at first I thought it was a network issue, but I then booted up windows and tried torrenting the show
[07:33] <dolphin-man> and the DL speed issues were not present, so I believe it is a technical issue with Ubuntu
[07:33] <dolphin-man> I've also been postponing an update, I have about 150 mbs of updates I need to perform and I keep postponing
[07:33] <dolphin-man> so maybe thats the issue?
[07:35] <dolphin-man> Myrtti
[07:35] <Myrtti> so, if I'd let you to #ubuntu, what would you do, troll around?
[07:35] <dolphin-man> No sir.
[07:36] <Myrtti> I'm looking at your latest interaction there from the logs and it's not encouraging
[07:36] <dolphin-man> I can't remember what happend honestly
[07:36] <dolphin-man> I remember getting banned, but I can't remember what for
[07:36] <dolphin-man> It was probably a misunderstanding
[07:36] <Myrtti> I'm just a person, I don't need to be formally addressed with sir or m'am :-)
[07:36] <dolphin-man> ok
[07:36] <Myrtti> dolphin-man: no, it really wasn't a misunderstanding, it's fairly clear that it was intentional from you
[07:37] <dolphin-man> Myrtti, with all due respect I sincerely doubt that.
[07:38] <dolphin-man> Myrtti, is there a way I could take this to Mark Shuttleworth?
[07:38] <dolphin-man> is there a number I could call
[07:39] <dolphin-man> If I could just get him to personally intervene and make you understand
[07:40] <dolphin-man> what happens now Myrtti
[07:40] <Myrtti> dolphin-man: here you go: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/28/%23ubuntu.html#t22:48
[07:41] <Myrtti> the fact that you want to appeal to Mark Shuttleworth is the first clue that you don't actually want to seriously resolve this or to use #ubuntu for getting help for technical problems
[07:41] <dolphin-man> Myrtti, sorry I thought some casual banter in #ubuntu was okay
[07:42] <dolphin-man> I just made a couple remarks, and then I was banned
[07:42] <dolphin-man> also I have a lot of respect for Mark Shuttleworth, I'm sad to hear you don't
[07:42] <dolphin-man> I think he would make a just aribtrator
[07:43] <Myrtti> I have respect for him, but we also have a process for ban resolution
[07:43] <Myrtti> that doesn't directly involve Mark at any point
[07:43] <Myrtti> and it's been successfully used for years
[07:44] <dolphin-man> oaky, sorry for being uppity then
[07:46] <Myrtti> alright, lets do this then
[07:46] <Myrtti> !guidelines > dolphin-man
[07:46] <Myrtti> !coc > dolphin-man
[07:46] <dolphin-man> bash like bot commands?
[07:46] <Myrtti> please read those, I'll have to go have a look at what the damned cat is doing
[07:46] <dolphin-man> is ubottu open source?
[07:47] <dolphin-man> ok
[07:51] <Myrtti> it had pooped on the hallway rug >___<
[07:51] <Myrtti> erm yes
[07:51] <Myrtti> she is an eggdrop
[07:53] <Myrtti> dolphin-man: so did you read the links ubottu gave you? mainly the guidelines
[07:53] <dolphin-man> yes
[07:55] <Myrtti> do you understand which part you did an error at?
[07:56] <dolphin-man> yes the dont be annoying part
[07:57] <Myrtti> there's also a part above it
[07:57] <Myrtti> at Language and Subject
[07:58] <dolphin-man> okay
[08:02] <Myrtti> I've been kindly reminded that ubottu is actually a supybot
[08:02] <Myrtti> anyway
[08:03] <Myrtti> so let's say I let you in #ubuntu
[08:04] <Myrtti> if I or any other op sees you behaving in a way that doesn't belong there, you will be banned again
[08:04] <Myrtti> dolphin-man: do you understand that?
[08:05] <dolphin-man> yes
[08:05] <Myrtti> and if you are banned, it is likely that the ban removal won't be as easy as it was now
[08:06] <Myrtti> the main purpose of the bans is to prevent disruption to the channel, not to smack your hand for being naughty. But if you can't behave in non-disruptive way, then the ban will be longer
[08:08] <dolphin-man> ok
[08:10] <Myrtti> go ahead and join the channel and ask your question
[08:11] <dolphin-man> nah, I have to go to bed. I'll join tomorrow afternoon when I have access to a computer.
[08:11] <dolphin-man> later
[08:18] <Myrtti> wheeeeee breakfast
[08:19] <Myrtti> marmalade toast and tea!
[10:39] <Pricey> Wow... someone actually read a topic
[10:41] <k1l_> hehe
[13:41]  * genii sips
 Hi, I would like to know whether ubuntu BAG meets the Airport cabin baggage measurements
[17:05] <bazhang>  /j #ubuntu-customs
[17:05] <bazhang> whoops
[17:09] <IdleOne> if he means the backpack. I believe it does but the measurments for it should be on the canonical shop
[18:01] <Myrtti> !bot > ironfoot495
[19:06] <genii> Is there anyone who has topic control in -discuss ? It's still says in part "Ubuntu for Phones discussion has moved to #ubuntu-phone"  ...when that is now forwarded to #ubuntu-touch
[19:07] <Pici> I should have access
[19:07] <Pici> Want me to op you up?
[19:09] <Myrtti> if the mlock is on, having ops won't help
[19:10] <Myrtti> I don't know if it is
[19:11] <genii> Pici: Changed the topic now :)
[19:11] <genii> ( and deopped of course )
[20:07] <Kaka> Hi.
[20:07] <Kaka> !ops
[20:07] <ikonia> hello
[20:07] <Kaka> !ops
[20:07] <Kaka> hello
[20:07] <ikonia> Kaka: please stop
[20:07] <Kaka> are you op?
[20:07] <ikonia> yes
[20:07] <Kaka> i was banned
[20:07] <Kaka> for swearing
[20:07] <ikonia> when ?
[20:07] <ikonia> from where?
[20:07] <Kaka> on #ubuntu
[20:07] <ikonia> first thing - please don't use !ops in any channels unless there is an emergency ?
[20:07] <ikonia> clear
[20:07] <Kaka> ok, i got it
[20:08] <ikonia> give me a moment while I find your ban please.
[20:08] <Kaka> ok, thank u
[20:08] <Kaka> i m from pakistan
[20:09] <ikonia> ahh I see it's you again
[20:09] <Kaka> what
[20:09] <Kaka> i think u banned all isps of pakistan..
[20:09] <ikonia> I don't think so
[20:09] <Kaka> 119.x
[20:09] <ikonia> the fact that you've been asked multiple times to stop joining and doing !ops
[20:09] <Kaka> is the main IP-addresses
[20:09] <Kaka> of all pakistani user
[20:10] <Kaka> u put ban on 119.x
[20:10] <ikonia> Kaka: we have not banned Pakistan
[20:10] <Kaka> which means, all paki users are banned
[20:10] <ikonia> just you
[20:10] <Kaka> you have banned pakistan
[20:10] <Kaka> you banned a ip range, i think
[20:10] <ikonia> we've not,
[20:10] <Kaka> i never came here
[20:10] <ikonia> I'm not discussing how you are banned
[20:10] <Kaka> how am i banned
[20:10] <ikonia> Kaka: how did know to join this channel ?
[20:10] <Kaka> which ip range have u banned?
[20:10] <Kaka> when i entered freenode
[20:10] <ikonia> Kaka: I'm not discussing how we banned you
[20:10] <Kaka> i tried connecting irc.ubuntu.com
[20:10] <Kaka> and it sent me to #ubuntu-ops
[20:11] <Kaka> i typed /j #ubuntu
[20:11] <Kaka> it say, you re banned
[20:11] <Kaka> you banned My IP Address Is 119.157.x.x?
[20:11] <ikonia> it didn't forward you to here as we removed the forward
[20:11] <Kaka> if yes, then you have banned all paki users
[20:11] <ikonia> I've told you "no" 3 times
[20:11] <ikonia> you seem to be unable to grasp this
[20:11] <Kaka> if u banned 119.157.x.x, or 119.157.250.x, then u banned all paki users
[20:11] <Kaka> im saying
[20:11] <Kaka> i never came here
[20:11] <Kaka> and i have been banned???
[20:12] <ikonia> how did you know to join #ubuntu-ops ?
[20:12] <Kaka> i connected to
[20:12] <Kaka> irc.ubuntu.com
[20:12] <Kaka> and it sent me to #ubuntu-ops
[20:12] <ikonia> no, it didn't, we removed the forward
[20:12] <Kaka> it did
[20:12] <ikonia> and I've just checked and your the same guy using the other nicknames such as jaykay and pentester and trying to be a problem causing !ops when you enter this channel
[20:13] <ikonia> so I'm sorry to say the ban won't be in place
[20:13] <ikonia> and the fact that oyu said "I've never been here" - but earlier said "I was banned for swearing" shows you are lying
[20:13] <ikonia> so lets not waste more time and you go on your way
[20:13] <Kaka> why cannot i be unbanned
[20:13] <ikonia> for the reasons I've just said above
[20:13] <Kaka> i want to help innocent people in #ubuntu
[20:13] <ikonia> so we are done
[20:13] <ikonia> bye
[20:13] <Kaka> dude no
[21:07] <KindTwo> You have a bot named 'stree' sitting in #ubuntu, if you hilight it or /query it, it responds with random AI crap kinda like a cleverbot
[21:07] <ikonia> lets have a look
[21:08] <ikonia> thanks
[21:12] <ikonia> KindTwo: sorted, thanks
[21:12] <KindTwo> no problem.


[06:48] <bkerensa> slangasek: is it safe to assume that doc string freeze is not a real thing like last cycle?
[06:48] <bkerensa> :)
[15:01] <slangasek> bkerensa: why would it not be a real thing?
[21:28] <bkerensa> slangasek: #1216145 I cannot fix this since IS has not added permissions for the admins yet
[21:28] <bkerensa> =/
[21:28] <slangasek> is there an RT open about this?
[21:29] <slangasek> I don't know why we have that page anyway, or why we keep it locked
[21:29] <bkerensa> slangasek: I had one opened they never replied... Opening a new one
[21:29] <bkerensa> :)
[21:30] <bkerensa> slangasek: cjwatson appears to have permissions to edit it though


[13:57] <santa_> hi everyone
[13:58] <santa_> RikMills: they are sopme pending things to do for fw 5.92, but I hope to finish them today
[13:58] <santa_> feel free to help if you have some spare time :)
[13:59] <santa_> about ktexteditor, I need to check the symbols removed but I bet they are private
[13:59] <santa_> another thing, in case you haven't noticed; we have a bunch of lintian warnings like this:
[14:00] <santa_> W: libkf5globalaccel-bin-dbgsym: elf-error In program headers: Unable to find ...
[14:00] <santa_> see, for example my last test rebuilds:
[14:00] <santa_> http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_frameworks.html
[14:00] <santa_> http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_plasma.html
[14:01] <santa_> http://tritemio-groomlake.duckdns.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_applications.html
[14:01] <santa_> I'm going to override them if you don't mind
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:10] <RikMills> santa_: yes, those elf-error warning are a false positive due to buggy binitils
[14:10] <RikMills> santa_: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/ka/+git/ka-metadata/commit/?id=235176009f69d1487eab442f4b62d4af340399b7
[14:50] <santa_> ah, thanks a lot
[14:54] <BluesKaj> seems FF is freezing a lot the last couple of days on jammy, altho chrome runs fine.
[17:06] <santa_> RikMills: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/590306674/buildlog_ubuntu-jammy-amd64.kconfig_5.92.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu22.04~ppa4_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:06] <santa_> so kconfig will need the new queue
[17:07] <santa_> those new files appear after adding qtdeclarative-dev to Build-Depends
[17:07] <santa_> so:
[17:07] <santa_> a) adding the new package needed now
[17:08] <santa_> b) post-pone it and do an "-ubuntu2" upload after uploading fw5.92 to the archive
[17:08] <santa_> which one?
[17:33] <RikMills> santa_: the 2nd, as I don't think it is critical for anything tyet
[17:43] <santa_> ack


[00:29] <pcd> Hey, I have 18.04 installed and wanted to try playing around with SystemTap. Unfortunately, it looks like kernel versions > 4.14 require systemtap 3.2 (released 18/10/18, bug in question is 22158), and the ubuntu package for systemtap is at 3.1. Is the systemtap package going to be updated to 3.2 in the final release? Is this even the right place to be asking about this, or should I take my question
[00:29] <pcd> elsewhere? Thanks in advance.
[00:30] <SlidingHorn> bug 22158
[00:30] <SlidingHorn> oh, must be a different tracker...
[00:30] <pcd> Sorry, systemtap's tracker
[00:30] <pcd> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22158
[01:00] <pcd> Should I file a bug on launchpad? I know it's pretty soon before the release ships
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> pcd: looking at the changelog, it looks like they may have patched 3.1 to fix that...
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> bug 876337
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> that's not it either...hmm...
[01:07] <pcd> Looks like they know about it in the debian package https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=892995
[01:08] <SlidingHorn> this is the one the last ubuntu changelog update fixes: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876337
[01:10] <SlidingHorn> pcd: so I think that's patched and all set :)
[01:11] <pcd> SlidingHorn: that looks like a different issue? The bug I linked is significantly newer than that, and still open
[01:13] <pcd> like 876337 is closed in 3.1-3, and 892995 is an issue in 3.1-3.
[05:33] <Volkodav> after recent partial upgrade I get no login screen startx from tty1 gets me into gnome. How do I start xfce session insyead?
[05:37] <flocculant> vo
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: try ubuntu recoverymode/fix broken packages
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: startx is not the right way anymore
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !recovery
[05:40] <Volkodav> lotuspsychje: thanks - will do
[06:28] <kab0m> Hi together
[06:30] <kab0m> Does anyone has the bug "error while loading shared libraries: libzstd.so.1" while running "apt-get upgrade" with the 18.04 Beta? Any ideas how to fix this?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[07:09] <kab0m> lotuspsychje: No i didnt. But i am running kubuntu 18.04 beta 2...if this is relevant
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: did you clean install or upgrade?
[07:10] <kab0m> lotuspsychje: clean install
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: ok good, could you hastebin the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[07:11] <kab0m> Ok
[07:13] <kab0m> lotuspsychje: here you go https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xfVHmYy7Gt/
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> bug #1766046
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: if relevant, can you add yourself affected to this bug?
[07:21] <kab0m> lotuspsychje: ok i will. i just have to setup an account on launchpad. thanks for your help so far
[07:22] <Norux> Wow, I just read the release notes for bionic beaver and can say, I'm hyped!
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> kab0m: no problem, try to do some steps from that bug too, to see if you can reproduce
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Norux: yeah they rock
[07:23] <Norux> lotuspsychje: So many things that really annoyed me about ubuntu that are fixed this update. E.g. now having a minimal installation
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Norux: yeah thats gonna be so good
[07:23] <kab0m> ok guys. Im out, have a nice day
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[07:23] <Norux> bye :)
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Norux: you got that new welcome screen?
[07:28] <Norux> lotuspsychje: didn't try it yet! But I'm installing a VM right now.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> cool, first desktop use should give you welcome screen
[07:44] <Norux> Hmm. Reeeeaally laggy for me. Might be because of the VM, but it has 16GB RAM and 8 cores...
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> gnome is much more lag then unity
[07:50] <Norux> I dislike gnome. I just don't like the look & feel of it. However, I still like the decision to use gnome once again
[07:50] <Norux> The number of bugs I encountered, caused by unity interfering with gnome, it was just ridiculous
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> same feeling
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> i wish they made gnome lightweight again
[07:52] <erle-> is the release on schedule or are there any known blockers?
[07:52] <Norux> lotuspsychje: yeah, I'd like that too
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> erle-: should be tomorrow during day
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !party
[08:28] <forester> Hi. Why my Ubuntu-mate-beta2 uses ip <IP_ADDRESS> (or ...42)?
[08:28] <forester> Ubuntu downloads something from that ip-adress.
[08:29] <forester> without my permission.
[09:22] <MrM1st> If I install 18.04 now, do I have to update it again after friday? Is it enough just doing a aptitude update && aptitude upgrade? Or should I wait with installing it as my main OS until the final release?
[09:23] <erle-> upgrade should be enough
[09:27] <MrM1st> A bit concerned about the new version as the last kernels froze my laptop :(
[09:27] <MrM1st> The last kernels in 17.10
[09:38] <brainwash> MrM1st: you could download the daily iso and then test it by booting into live mode
[09:51] <Raytar> Hi, could someone else take a look at this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1765304
[09:51] <Raytar> It breaks some password management extensions like bitwarden and lastpass in firefox
[09:59] <brainwash> Raytar: someone? plenty people/devs already looked at it
[10:00] <Raytar> Ok, it just seems to me that this bug needs more attention.
[10:02] <brainwash> from whom?
[10:04] <Raytar> I don't know, I would hope that someone could triage it
[10:04] <Volkodav> I have no broken packages and still it boots in tty1 and only startx invokes gnome session and I can not get to login screen or start xfce that I usually use
[10:10] <brainwash> Raytar: did you rebuild ibus without the ubuntu patches yet?
[10:10] <brainwash> Raytar: one could maybe test ibus 1.5.18 from debian also https://packages.debian.org/sid/ibus
[10:11] <Raytar> Thanks, I will try
[10:15] <brainwash> Volkodav: did you share the output of "systemctl status gdm" yet?
[10:15] <brainwash> or lightdm
[10:18] <Volkodav> brainwash:not yet but I'll get it out
[10:23] <Volkodav> https://pastebin.com/dTfcuZXD
[10:25] <Volkodav> brainwash: I just pasted it
[10:31] <brainwash> Volkodav: it says that lightdm was started successfully, but you cannot confirm that, right?
[10:32] <brainwash> I find it odd that lightdm does not come with its own .service file
[10:35] <brainwash> Volkodav: more logs can be found in /var/log/lightdm/
[10:37] <Volkodav> brainwash: not really - it shows a few colorful screens where login manager would normally pop up but then goes into tty1
[10:38] <Volkodav> let me pull the logs
[10:38] <brainwash> Volkodav: you use the nvidia driver?
[10:38] <Volkodav> yes
[10:38] <brainwash> that one could be the cause
[10:38] <Raytar> brainwash: I use "quilt" to delete the ubuntu patches right? After deleting the "ubuntu-*.patch" files and building the packages, the issue persists.
[10:39] <luna_> 18.04 release tommorow evening o/
[10:40] <Volkodav> brainwash: I'm pretty sure since it happened at least once before
[10:40] <brainwash> Raytar: so, next is to test the ibus 1.5.18 release from debian
[10:40] <brainwash> Volkodav: let's see what the lightdm log(s) say
[10:43] <Volkodav> brainwash: no such file lol
[10:44] <Volkodav> https://pastebin.com/C2tQARkg
[10:47] <brainwash> Volkodav: mmh. maybe try with gdm instead. "sudo systemctl disable lightdm" and "sudo systemctl enable gdm"
[10:48] <brainwash> not sure if simply reinstalling lightdm would help
[10:49] <Volkodav> brainwash: hardly ever reinstall helped me with anything
[10:50] <brainwash> not having /var/log/lightdm/ is pretty odd
[10:50] <Volkodav> brainwash: https://pastebin.com/5FWuHU9G
[10:50] <Raytar> brainwash: just built 1.5.18 from debian and the issue persists
[10:52] <brainwash> Volkodav: can you do "sudo systemctl start gdm" from tty?
[10:53] <brainwash> Raytar: mmh. running out of ideas then
[10:54] <brainwash> Raytar: at least that info can be added to the bug report
[10:55] <Volkodav> brainwash: sure I'll kill X and be right back with an output
[11:00] <Volkodav> brainwash: it started OK thanks for your help - how do I permanently set it up? Or is it going to be fixed soon? I doubt that given the time left until the release
[11:01] <brainwash> Volkodav: I'd think that it should automatically start on boot then (after disabling lightdm)
[11:02] <Volkodav> but lightdm is disabled isn't it? Or it may respawn ?
[11:08] <Raytar> brainwash: I have added the info. I will see if I can reproduce the issue on debian itself.
[11:28] <erle-> please note that default-jre being Java 11 breaks some things
[11:34] <brainwash> Volkodav: I assumed that disabling lightdm will allow gdm to start up instead
[12:05] <micw> Hi. I'm testing 18.04 in virtualbox. I installed the guest utils, dkms and x11 driver. When I switch to fullscreen, the screen gets messed up and does not respond until I switch back to window. I remember that I had similar in 17.10 (so stayed with 16.04)
[12:21] <MrM1st> micw: I've run 17.10 in virtualbox multiple times without problems
[12:22] <MrM1st> Trying 18.04 now
[12:23] <micw> i installed virtualbox today on the host (5.2.10), drivers are the same version
[12:23] <micw> the problem with 17.10 was on my workmate's laptop (windows 10)
[12:23] <micw> i'm running it on macos x currently
[12:24] <MrM1st> Hmm
[12:24] <MrM1st> I'm on a linux host as well
[12:24] <MrM1st> Is this the place to ask about livepatch? What is it?
[12:28] <guardian> so, if Bionic is released tomorrow, it means tonight's build ?
[12:30] <donofrio> guardian, but it's already tomorrow in "Suva"
[12:33] <lapaga> mine no longer says development branch so think it is the final
[12:37] <stickyboy> nacc: Hey, I have another question about something Java related. Are you around?
[12:42] <stickyboy> nacc: Seems tomcat8 in bionic does not work with openjdk-8. I found a Debian bug report about it from mid April: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895866
[12:46] <zteam> Hi all! I just upgraded from Ubuntu 17.10 to Ubuntu 18.04, most things appear to work as expected, but I'm unable to start synaptic from the desktop launcher starting it from a terminal with gksu synaptic however works fine, is this a known bug?
[12:47] <brainwash> zteam: mostly like it's due to running the wayland session
[12:49] <brainwash> there is bug 1713313
[12:49] <zteam> brainwash, well, I don't think so, because my Nvidia drivers doesn't support wayland yet (unless something changed very recently) so I'm still in Xorg-land
[12:50] <brainwash> ok
[12:51] <brainwash> so, what error do you get when simply running "synaptic" in a terminal window?
[12:52] <brainwash> or "synaptic-pkexec" in case that one exists
[12:52] <zteam> brainwash, no error at all, it's starting fine, however it does print this warning: Gtk-Message: 14:51:19.955: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[12:53] <brainwash> and "synaptic-pkexec"?
[12:54] <zteam> brainwash, synaptic-pkexec doesn't work at all, no error either
[12:54] <brainwash> just checked it. the desktop launcher contains "Exec=synaptic-pkexec"
[12:57] <zteam> brainwash, okey :-)
[12:58] <zteam> brainwash, not a huge issue for me anyway, i just thought about if needed to report the error
[12:58] <brainwash> just to make sure, what is the output of "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION"?
[12:58] <zteam> ubuntu
[12:59] <brainwash> mmh
[12:59] <brainwash> then "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE"
[12:59] <zteam> X11
[12:59] <brainwash> ok
[13:00] <brainwash> so, I guess it should be report worthy
[13:02] <zteam> brainwash, I should add, that I recieved several errors from dpkg then I attempted to upgrade, the system even told me that it would revert to Ubuntu 17.10 again, but apparently it still works okey, and claims to be Bionic :P
[13:04] <brainwash> you could run "strace synaptic-pkexec" which will you give a rather large log output of system calls
[13:04] <brainwash> maybe the last couple of lines contain some hint
[13:05] <brainwash> other than that, you could test other applications which utilize pkexec for authorization
[13:06] <brainwash> like gparted-pkexec
[13:06] <brainwash> oh. and also try "pkexec synaptic"
[13:10] <stickyboy> How can I check when a package was last synced from Debian into Ubuntu?
[13:10] <stickyboy> s/How/Where/
[13:11] <stickyboy> tomcat8 stopped working for me this week in bionic, but it was working two weeks ago.
[13:11] <zteam> brainwash, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yk44WVc8pk/
[13:12] <zteam> stickyboy, are you using bionic on a server you say?
[13:14] <stickyboy> zteam: Testing bionic server, yes. Not running in production of course.
[13:14] <brainwash> maybe this bug 1717998
[13:15] <stickyboy> brainwash: Nah, I'm explicitly using tomcat8 (aka 8.5.x) not tomcat8.0.
[13:15] <brainwash> ok
[13:16] <stickyboy> I found this Debian bug from a few weeks ago, seems to be similar to my problem.
[13:16] <stickyboy> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895866
[13:16] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat8/+publishinghistory
[13:16] <stickyboy> That's why I'm wondering if it's maybe something related to a Debian→Ubuntu sync.
[13:16] <stickyboy> brainwash: Ok, let me have a look.
[13:17] <stickyboy> (gist of the Debian bug is that tomcat8 was compiled with Java 9, so won't run properly with Java 8)
[13:19] <stickyboy> Ah, so it looks like Ubuntu bionic did indeed sync tomcat8 from sid on April 20 (so it inherited this bug).
[13:19] <stickyboy> Err, 2018-04-19 rather.
[13:19] <brainwash> zteam: not sure about the output, but it may be helpful in case you file a bug report
[13:20] <brainwash> stickyboy: right
[13:21] <stickyboy> brainwash: Exciting! The resolution of the Debian bug was the maintainer saying he'd rebuild tomcat8 with Java 8 in the next release.
[13:21] <stickyboy> Now to find out if Debian fixed it...
[13:30] <nostrora> Hello everybody, I can read this : "Canonical is also working to speed up the boot-time of Ubuntu by using systemd’s features." Do you know which systemd's features are talking about ? source : https://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-release-date-features/
[13:37] <stickyboy> nostrora: Starting system services in parallel? Starting things only when they are needed (dependencies)? Using systemd-analyze to see the graph of service dependencies and times taken.
[13:38] <stickyboy> nostrora: systemd can also wait to mount filesystems until they are accessed.
[13:38] <stickyboy> etc
[13:58] <nostrora> stickyboy: ok !
[14:00] <stickyboy> brainwash: Ok, I filed a bug for tomcat8 on Launchpad and linked it to the Debian bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/tomcat8/+bug/1766882
[14:02] <stickyboy> Err, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat8/+bug/1766882
[14:02] <stickyboy> Launchpad is confusing. :D
[14:15] <strang3quark> hi, any of you knows how to install anbox on Bionic?
[14:15] <strang3quark> I cannot load the kernel modules
[14:16] <wlan2> I never really got anbox to work ever.
[14:17] <wlan2> But, what method did you use for installing?
[14:18] <Volkodav> brainwash: I've just rebooted and it's the same story - had to manually start gdm
[14:20] <donofrio> whoa think I just figured out ubuntu numbering (it's year then month released?)
[14:23]  * stickyboy hands donofrio a cookie.
[14:24]  * donofrio chewing
[14:26] <wlan2> donofrio: Precisely.
[14:27] <strang3quark> wlan2: i followed the instructions on the anbox site, I also tried to download and run the installer script
[14:27] <strang3q1> wlan2: I followed the instructions on the Anbox website (install the snap package)
[14:28] <wlan2> strang3quark: What kind of error would you get?
[14:28]  * donofrio thinks anbox now there is a name I've not heard of in awhile.
[14:28] <wlan2> donofrio: android runtime in containers
[14:29]  * wlan2 typed that before finished reading your reply...
[14:29] <strang3q1> their anbox-support ppa does not have packages for bionic, I tried to use the xenial packages but the modules aren't working
[14:32] <wlan2> I'd bet you'd have to build the modules yourself for bionic... But did dkms succeed in building them?
[14:34] <strang3q1> wlan2: yes, the modules are built but I cannot load them
[14:34] <wlan2> Any particular error?
[14:37] <strang3q1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/rv27qkzP67/
[14:39] <wlan2> What does dmesg say?
[14:40] <strang3q1> ashmem_linux: Unknown symbol __vfs_read (err 0)
[14:45] <wlan2> That sounds to me like those modules won't work for your current kernel without some coding. I've never coded kernel modules, so I'm just guessing.
[14:46] <Volkodav> has anybody noticed that panel-xkb is a cpu hog? Has been eating up to 40% of CPU since early alpha
[14:47] <strang3q1> Me neighter, I guess I'll just use a VM until there's an update. thanks for your help
[14:49] <brainwash> Volkodav: what is panel-xkb?
[14:50] <Volkodav> brainwash: Keyboard layout plugin for xfce panel
[14:53] <brainwash> Volkodav: does it constantly use that much cpu?
[14:53] <Volkodav> brainwash: yes it does
[14:53] <Volkodav> 35-40%
[14:54] <brainwash> maybe you should have filed a bug report for this earlier
[14:55] <enyc> hrrm
[14:55] <enyc> will ubuntu-18.04 (updated from 16.04) boot ok with an older 4.8.0 kernel  (yes, i know, i will need to sort out newer kernel / custom drivers etc in time)?
[14:55] <wlan2> I would recommend using ibus instead of th0se layout switchers.
[14:57] <wlan2> enyc: I see no reason why it would not,4.8 is not THAAAAT old.
[14:57] <enyc> last i checked gcc had a minimum of 2.6.32 =)
[14:57] <enyc> but that may have changed
[14:57] <brainwash> Volkodav: I suggest asking in #xubuntu-devel, maybe someone there can confirm this issue and help with debugging the it
[14:57] <brainwash> -the
[14:58] <wlan2> Bye.
[14:59] <Volkodav> brainwash: I will ask them guys
[15:00] <odez> hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 i got a minute delay in showing the login screen. anyone heard of this issue?   (X, gdm3, nvidia)
[15:00] <vlt> odez: Might be a "resume from" device the initramfs is waiting for.
[15:02] <brainwash> odez: I would check the output of "systemd-analyze blame"
[15:04] <Volkodav> brainwash: I should have filed it long ago - agree , just was hoping that some bugs are ironed out in the process - but this one has obviously been not
[15:05] <brainwash> it's possible that it only affects a specific driver/panel setup
[15:05] <brainwash> therefore, not affecting everyone
[15:07] <Volkodav> brainwash: xfce is rather straightforward in testing that
[15:07] <Volkodav> I'll ask them anyway
[15:07] <brainwash> please do
[15:07] <Volkodav> already did actually
[15:10] <odez> brainwash:  732ms fwupd.service is my no 1.  i guess the delay is in X?
[15:11] <brainwash> odez: and "systemd-analyze critical-chain"?
[15:12] <brainwash> also, check "journalctl -u gdm"
[15:18] <odez> brainwash: journalctl  -u gdm says this 3 times:  Unable to kill session worker process -   Child process -xx was already dead
[15:21] <brainwash> odez: ideally, you should pastebin the whole terminal output
[15:23] <odez> brainwash: https://pastebin.com/3W0Ttjjw
[15:29] <brainwash> odez: searching the web for info about those lines does give helpful results
[15:30] <brainwash> odez: I guess the last place to check is /var/log/xorg/
[15:30] <brainwash> and general system log of course
[15:30] <brainwash> journalctl
[15:40] <odez> brainwash: thanks for helping
[15:49] <kiroma> I've performed a do-release-upgrade on my kubuntu 17.10 and I noticed a lot of oddities
[15:49] <kiroma> i.e. update-grub was run at least 5 times, and update-initramfs only once near the end like it should be
[15:50] <kiroma> Before changing the kernel all DKMS modules have been reinstalled.
[15:50] <kiroma> And then removed.
[17:16] <ChmEarl>  cat /etc/issue.net -> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[17:16] <ChmEarl> maiden voyage ^^
[17:16] <ads20000> nice! Have fun and report bugs! :)
[17:18] <pcd> What's the turnaround time on package bugs when the packages are nominally maintained by Ubuntu Developers?
[17:19] <nacc> pcd: it depends
[17:19] <pcd> nacc: alright, what's the turnaround time for a bug where systemtap simply doesn't work on 18.04? :P
[17:20] <nacc> pcd: is the bug filed?
[17:20] <pcd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemtap/+bug/1766754
[17:21] <nacc> pcd: i'd ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[17:21] <pcd> nacc: Alright, thanks
[17:21] <nacc> pcd: np
[18:41] <arun007> :)
[19:10] <guardian> curious whether current daily build is the final one :)
[19:12] <acheronuk> guardian: no, it's not
[19:16] <guardian> acheronuk: how do you know? (honest question, is there a task list somewhere?)
[19:19] <acheronuk> guardian: because I'm a Kubuntu and Ubuntu developer, keeping an eye on the current state of things in #ubuntu-release and other dev channel. hence I know that there is to be a respin of iso images to fix an installer bug at the very least
[19:20] <guardian> acheronuk: oh I see, thanks for sharing
[19:47] <freehUgsz> first ubuntu release i'm interested in
[21:40] <Seveas> freehUgsz: welcome to the dark side!
[22:34] <freehUgsz> Seveas, well thank you :)
[23:07] <Moc> I was told to join here to talk about issue in trying to boot the daily build of bionic beaver
[23:08] <Moc> The beta 2 iso does work correctly (Im on it right now), but I tried both 20180425 daily build and installer wont start
[23:09] <Moc> I
[23:09] <Moc> I'm going to try yesterday daily in 2 minutes
[23:10] <Moc> My machine is a Dell Latitude E5540
[23:12] <Moc> Rebooting now to 20180424 daily build.  brb
[23:16] <Moc> Daily 20180424 installer started normally
[23:43] <katnip> are most new releases released on UTC time?
[23:56] <silox> Hello, I wanted to see if anyone could verify that both Landscape (on premises install) and MAAS will both function on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS that's scheduled to be released tomorrow.  Any help would be appreciated as I'd like to use 18.04 for a Landscape/MAAS deployment for an entire datacenter.