[21:14] <cfhowlett> DexterF   virtualbox
[21:15] <terminhell> windows cant see linux partitions anways....i dont see the problem
[21:15] <meskarune> virtual box isn't that great on a laptop
[21:15] <cfhowlett> Seryth   *guessing* it's an empty spaceholder
[21:15] <dejahthoris> DexterF; what about a usb std mechanical drive?
[21:15] <meskarune> DexterF: also are you allowed to use linux on your work computer? don't do something that is going to cause trouble
[21:15] <Seryth> cfhowlett: Hm....I dunno why this happened, it's annoying.
[21:15] <cfhowlett> DexterF   ubuntu on a stick...
[21:15] <DexterF> cfhowlett: good idea, but the admins theoretically can remotely access the disk. a vm image might look suspicious
[21:16] <kriestof> how to set all tty on startup like with setupcon(to have fonts on startup)?
[21:16] <cfhowlett> DexterF   Ubuntu startup disk creator = USB ubuntu
[21:16] <mputtr> recon_lap: i finally got it to show the boot menu. apparently i never restarted it and pulled the usb stick then press enter. i just shut it down
[21:16] <DexterF> meskarune: concern appreciated, but its ok to use the machien for private stuff. they sure didnt have that extent in mind, but hey :)
[21:16] <Simon1245> Hey guys, can I increase my ubuntu partition somehow without having to reinstall or losing something?
[21:16] <meskarune> DexterF: if you want to run linux from usb I woudn't suggest using ubuntu. maybe something smaller and meant to be run from usb
[21:17] <h00k> Simon1245: sure, you can boot from a live disk/USB and do it that way with gparted
[21:17] <h00k> !gparted | Simon1245
[21:17] <Simon1245> h00k, I can do it directly while being on it aswell or? Also is it easy to use?
[21:17] <dejahthoris> DexterF; what about a usb-to-ata adapter and a standard full-sized hardrive?
[21:17] <meskarune> DexterF: why don't you just ask the IT department to dual boot linux for you on the laptop?
[21:17] <h00k> Simon1245: not while the partitions are mounted
[21:17] <mystMan_> i need to set up dual boot on my laptop
[21:18] <DexterF> I could swap out the optical for another hdd and label that disk the same as the optical :D
[21:18] <h00k> Simon1245: yeah, it's pretty easy to use
[21:18] <mystMan_> never done it before
[21:18] <Simon1245> h00k, Ah ok, I'll do the live CD way
[21:18] <recon_lap> mputtr: :)
[21:18] <cfhowlett> Simon1245   you need to live boot
[21:18] <h00k> !dualboot | mystMan_
[21:18] <DexterF> meskarune: company = win only shop.
[21:18] <Simon1245> cfhowlett, ah ok
[21:18] <mputtr> i guess i was stupid enough to not follow directions to the T
[21:18] <cfhowlett> Simon1245   see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/disks.html
[21:18] <Sefid_par> What is the most reliable CD/DVD burner?
[21:18] <DexterF> dejahthoris: usb2=slow.
[21:18] <mputtr> Sefid_par: hardware wise?
[21:18] <rahul__bansal> how to get information about what different modules do in linux?
[21:19] <DexterF> Sefid_par: they're pretty much all the same. get the cheapest, when it dies (usually a month after warranty ran out) get a new one
[21:19] <dejahthoris> Sefid_par; I don't know which is *most* reliable, but my Plextor 740uf has been pretty good over the years
[21:19] <mputtr> i'm happy with my asus bray burner
[21:19] <terminhell> rahul__bansal: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=modules&go=Go
[21:20] <Sefid_par> Oh excuse me. I mean the most reliable software!
[21:20] <meskarune> DexterF: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[21:20] <meskarune> DexterF: but you should seriously consider asking IT if it is ok first. the hardware doesn't belong to you :P
[21:21] <terminhell> i doubt it will be an issue, they usually whipe the drives afterwards
[21:21] <jhk> Is 12.04 LTS in beta right now? 11.10 is the latest stable build correct?
[21:21] <EvilResistance> !11.10
[21:21] <EvilResistance> !12.04
[21:21] <OerHeks> jhk yes
[21:21] <EvilResistance> jhk:  ^
[21:21] <vadi2> Is it better to have the wrap partition at the start or the end of the drive? Whenever my Ubuntu has to swap even 200mb, it *dies* for 5mins while it does it, and nothing else is usable.
[21:22] <jhk> :) In update manager it is only allowing me the option to upgrade to 12.04 and not 11.10...any ideas?
[21:22] <Sefid_par> What is the most reliable software for burning CD/DVDs?
[21:22] <OerHeks> ehh jhk no, beta within 2 weeks, feature freeze is done.
[21:22] <cfhowlett> vadi2   shouldn't matter where it's put
[21:22] <terminhell> brasero usually does the job for simple stuff
[21:22] <DexterF> vadi2: it seems to be doing somethign else, unless you run a 486
[21:22] <cfhowlett> jhk   12.04 has NOT been released
[21:22] <vadi2> no, it's only related to swap. It is terribly and frustratingly unusable when it does that. UI freezes and all that jazz.
[21:23] <jhk> How can I just upgrade to 11.10 with update manager.
[21:23] <vadi2> Swap 500mb and I might as well hard-reset it, because it'll take 10mins to finish.
[21:23] <EvilResistance> jhk:  what are you on right now?
[21:23] <DexterF> vadi2: tell me abit about the hardware. what type of computer, desktop, laptop? how much ram? what hard disk?
[21:23] <vadi2> laptop, 4gb ram, HDD
[21:23] <jhk> 10.04 LTS
[21:23] <vadi2> rightnow 3.2gb used and yet it put 1gb into swap
[21:23] <DexterF> vadi2: laptop brand/model?
[21:23] <rahul__bansal> terminhell: actually i want a list which can tell me what each module  do...i want to unload some modules , so i want to be sure of each module..
[21:24] <DexterF> vadi2: hdd size?
[21:24] <vadi2> system76 serval, 250gb
[21:24] <EvilResistance> jhk:  you'd have to do an incremental upgrade: lucid -> maverick, then maverick -> natty, then natty -> oneiric.  there's a huge possibility that things will go wrong with this method though
[21:24] <terminhell> what are the modules in question
[21:24] <dejahthoris> vadi2; the end of a hdd is usually the inside and the slowest. but you usually can't put the swap at the beginning. If you can stand having your ubuntu split into two partitions, having the swap in the middle is usually considered a realistic best
[21:24] <Gskellig> I can't fix the date/time on my ubuntu server
[21:24] <EvilResistance> jhk:  lucid's still supported, you can wait for 12.04 LTS and then upgrade directly, iirc...
[21:24] <jhk> Crap.
[21:24] <vadi2> Oh hm.
[21:24] <DexterF> dejahthoris: outer parts of the disk have the most angular velocity and thus the fastest speeds
[21:24] <vadi2> Odd thought, but would deframenting help? I know ext4 doesn't require it, but it's possible to do that
[21:25] <jhk> Oh okay. I'm thinking that it will fix my video issue. I guess not.
[21:25] <kpas_> mustafaerhann, but what are looking to monitor
[21:25] <kpas_> oops
[21:25] <dejahthoris> DexterF; on most harddrives the outside is the beginning
[21:25] <kpas_> wrong screen
[21:25] <okibi> My fresh (but fully updated) install of 11.10 is mounting all external drives (tried three drives, one ext2 and two NTFS) as read-only. Even manual mounting through sudo with a -w option mounts them read-only. I'm having a hard time searching for solutions because of google noise with those keywords.
[21:25] <EvilResistance> jhk:  what video issue?  you can ask for support with individual issues here too you know\
[21:25] <DexterF> dejahthoris: beg to differ
[21:25] <jhk> It was the freezing issue after about 1-2 hours.
[21:26] <jhk> Other people in the room just said it was overheating.
[21:26] <meskarune> okibi: did you have the ext2 drive mounted in another linux install? perhaps the permissions of the files need to be changed
[21:26] <DexterF> vadi2: so a farely recent machine. what do you typcially use that triggers swaps like 200MB and how do you measure so precisely?
[21:26] <DexterF> I run a server with 8g ram and no swap at all, works a charm
[21:26] <okibi> meskarune: My other linux box (Ubuntu 9.x) mounts all these drives without issue.
[21:26] <terminhell> okibi: you may have to add your user to the usb group, and make sure dbus-launch is in your .xinitrc exec-session line
[21:27] <terminhell> okibi: *storage* group
[21:27] <okibi> terminhell: These drives were previously mounting just fine. Changed after a reboot. I will check that, though, - thanks
[21:27] <vadi2> DexterF: I have an indicator that shows me my ram and swap usage. Opening virtualbox with chrome open can trigger it, or opening another chrome profile would as well (I had to split my workload into different profiles, because I'm just running out of ram... even with everything closed, Ubuntu uses 1.5+gb ram)
[21:27] <share> hi. just to let you know that Ubuntu didn't notify the reboot after nvidia driver update ..
[21:27] <jhk> Is there any stress programs that can stress video cards in ubuntu?
[21:28] <meskarune> okibi: so its probably something to do with permissions. you need to mount those drives in your other linux box, and then have the permissions changed to rw for all
[21:28] <DexterF> vadi2: vbox gust has how much ram?
[21:28] <DexterF> *guest
[21:28] <vadi2> DexterF: 512
[21:28] <DexterF> vadi2: used any fancy filesystem for / ?
[21:28] <okibi> meskarune: I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the idea.
[21:28] <kion> jhk try glxgears
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: dm-crypt?
[21:29] <vadi2> DexterF: no, not at all. I think it is ext4
[21:29] <okibi> meskarune: Also, why are you so cool?
[21:29] <vadi2> I do have full disk encryption.
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: aha!
[21:29] <vadi2> So encyption + io = kills it?
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: you used ubuntu's encryption or somehting 3rd party like truecrypt?
[21:29] <vadi2> I used ubuntu's setup.
[21:29] <DexterF> vadi2: 11.10?
[21:29] <vadi2> Yes
[21:30] <DexterF> vadi2: regular hdd or ssd?
[21:30] <vadi2> regular hdd
[21:30] <ganimede> is there a forum, mailing list, or other to report feedbacks on ubuntu precise alpha 2?
[21:31] <cfhowlett> precise|ganimede
[21:31] <cfhowlett> !precise|ganimede
[21:31] <ganimede> thanks ubottu
[21:32] <DexterF> vadi2: well, my guess: unless dm-crypt is not transparent it might gather larger chunks than the filesystem and thus swaps bigger chunks than the memory management can easily hande. but that's all shots in the dark to be honest. since you're setup sounds otherwise sane that's my prime suspect.
[21:32] <kion> Does anybody know how to get some nice desktop effects on ubuntu?  seems I lost all I had with the introduction of Unity.
[21:32] <DexterF> vadi2: checking the mailing list archives or maybe even filing a bug report might help
[21:32] <vadi2> Alright, I'll try.
[21:33] <DexterF> vadi2: or of course try and decrypt (a hassle, I know). is swap encrypted, too?
[21:33] <DexterF> vadi2: does dm-crypt require LVM?
[21:33] <vadi2> swap isn't, but I did enable zram on it (compression), because something is just eating my memory and I frequently run low even during browser use only
[21:34] <vadi2> I'm not certain.
[21:34] <DexterF> vadi2: what, what's zram?
[21:34] <vadi2> compresses ram contents
[21:34] <DexterF> by the way: encrypted disk + unencrypted swap = no use as one might have attack vectors on remians in swap
[21:34] <vadi2> http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=zram&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webupd8.org%2F2011%2F10%2Fincreased-performance-in-linux-with.html&ei=XXY9T5zyIOHJmQXDs-jiBw&usg=AFQjCNGg9L0A9J1uBp936ALpu3sU0ywl2Q&sig2=rjsUDt6eWJZDlYW8hFUOTA
[21:34] <vadi2> ops, spammy link
[21:35] <dejahthoris> vadi2; what sort of machine is this? desktop? laptop?
[21:35] <vadi2> laptop, system76 serval
[21:36] <Gskellig> can someone help me fix the date/time on my ubuntu server? it keeps saying "operation not permitted" even when run as root
[21:36] <Gskellig> and ntpdate isn't working either
[21:36] <dejahthoris> vadi2; does it have any space for a second harddrive?
[21:36] <mputtr> for a first time ubuntu user, what softwares should i install first?
[21:36] <vadi2> physically, no
[21:36] <Gskellig> mputtr, you mean what softwares should you remove first? =D
[21:36] <DexterF> Gskellig: what does ntpdate say?
[21:37] <jhk> glxgears is working great. Thanks! kion
[21:37] <DexterF> vadi2: that zram.. sound completely bogus
[21:37] <mlc> mputtr: install antivir
[21:37] <Gskellig> DexterF, 17 Feb 01:35:22 ntpdate[26092]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[21:37] <Gskellig> the time has been wrong for weeks
[21:37] <Gskellig> it clearly isn't updating right
[21:37] <rahul__bansal> is there a way to get name of all users connected to lan in linux?
[21:37] <mputtr> lol i have no idea at all. this is my first time using linux.. ever
[21:37] <Gskellig> I've tried changing the timeservers too
[21:37] <smelo> Greetings channel.  Is there a Ubuntu way to reconfigure a base install? (re-ip, re-name, re-key). Something along the lines of `dpkg-reconfigure base-system`?  I've cloned a template and need to reset the ip, hostname, ssh keys
[21:37] <mputtr> mlc: antivir? is it on ubuntu software cneter?
[21:38] <mlc> mputtr: yea, search clamav
[21:38] <mputtr> ok
[21:38] <DexterF> vadi2:  is it possible that you totaly blown that zram up to max and when this one os full it starts swapping to disk and then they fight about who holds what?
[21:38] <DexterF> vadi2: you said yourself, something is eating up ram there
[21:39] <mputtr> i've only found virus scanner
[21:39] <vadi2> Well, it's point is to reduce that... but I'll try deactivating it
[21:39] <DexterF> Gskellig: google have anythign in that error?
[21:39] <mputtr> is that he one? or do i need to install something else
[21:39] <kion> jhk: no problem :)
[21:39] <mputtr> including virus scanner
[21:39] <DexterF> vadi2: maybe you have mega IO when the system tries to swap compressed data out to disk
[21:39] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: you should look in you router for that information
[21:40] <vadi2> Yeah, it just dies on this IO, the disk is churning and everything
[21:40] <mlc> mputtr: right clamav is a virus scanner
[21:40] <mputtr> i c
[21:40] <mputtr> well.. it's installing
[21:40] <mlc> ^^
[21:40] <mlc> mputtr: audio video codec
[21:41] <dejahthoris> vadi2; do you have and cardbus slots on your laptop?
[21:41] <mputtr> i'm trying to learn linux, what else should i install that will get me to learn more about linux
[21:41] <vadi2> okay, so uninstalling "zramswap-enabler - Use RAM compression instead of swap", will see if it's fine then. Though I installed it to begin with because my 4gb ram was just melting away
[21:41] <vadi2> I have a pci slot... not sure what is a cardbus
[21:41] <daftykins> cardbus was PCI for laptops, external wireless cards used it
[21:41] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: ok. is there a way i can access information from router from my machine..
[21:41] <dejahthoris> vadi2; you know, the modern version of a pcmcia slot?
[21:41] <meskarune> mputtr: the only way to learn linux is to read :P
[21:42] <vadi2> Probably not on this 4 year old laptop
[21:42] <mlc> mputtr: step by step. learning by doing
[21:42] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: get you gateway address, type it into the address bar of a browser and off  you go :)
[21:42] <mputtr> meskarune: where should i go to get reading resources?
[21:42] <meskarune> mputtr: read some command line cheat sheets and read wiki articles adn man pages
[21:42] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: use ifconfig
[21:42] <mputtr> or should i just google it
[21:42] <mputtr> command line cheat sheets... ok. let me look it up
[21:43] <dejahthoris> vadi2; if you had a way to connect one, there are cardbus ssd's you could use for swap
[21:43] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: to get you gateway address
[21:43] <meskarune> mputtr: to learn more about a program in linux you can type "man <program>" and you'll get the manual on it. try doing "man cd"
[21:43] <vadi2> ah... no, I don't want anything extra to carry around :(
[21:43] <meskarune> mputtr: to exit out of the manual you hit the q key
[21:43] <mputtr> one sec.. gotta go put sutff in the dryer
[21:43] <recon69_lap> mputtr: you could just use it to do what you like doing on computers and learn as you go :)
[21:44] <dejahthoris> vadi2; they're only the size of a credit card
[21:44] <meskarune> mputtr: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-commands-cheat-sheets.html
[21:44] <Gskellig> DexterF, I killed the ntp process and tried again, get the same error as when I try using date
[21:44] <Gskellig> 17 Feb 01:43:56 ntpdate[26567]: Can't adjust the time of day: Operation not permitted
[21:44] <vadi2> oh
[21:45] <dejahthoris> vadi2; if you had a cardbus ssd for swap, your swapping would be quite fast
[21:45] <share> I need ir-keytable for Ubuntu Maverick
[21:45] <share> where can I find it
[21:45] <Gskellig> DexterF, I am using sudo btw, I have also tried running it as root
[21:45] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: I tried but asking for password(level 15)...seem i don't have permission
[21:45] <Gskellig> for some reason I still get operation not permitted
[21:46] <DexterF> Gskellig: beyond me. you could try and run strace on it, write output to a file with -o and grep that for OPEN calls, see what it accesses
[21:46] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: try with a blank password, if that dont work have a look for the manual that came with the router
[21:46] <DexterF> Gskellig: version?
[21:47] <Gskellig> 11.04
[21:47] <Gskellig> strace? I'm not sure how to do that
[21:47] <OerHeks> GsKellig sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[21:47] <Gskellig> tried that as well
[21:47] <DexterF> Gskellig: pretty easy: strace -o somefile.txt <command>
[21:47] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: if you never set a password it's possible that someone has hi-jacked your router :)
[21:47] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: i am connected to institute lan and their router ...
[21:48] <no_gravity> Good Evening! Where does wine install its programms these days? I installed Google Adwords Editor lately and it runs fine. But now I wanted to start it again and its not in /home/me/.wine./drive_c/...
[21:48] <Gskellig> oh I got tzdata to work
[21:49] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: ok, well why would you want to see who connected to the institute's routers, it's private info i would think
[21:49] <Gskellig> wouldn't run under sudo but it ran as root
[21:49] <Gskellig> thanks OerHeks and DexterF
[21:49] <meskarune> no_gravity: you can use the locate command to find stuff. :) "locate google"
[21:49] <DexterF> Gskellig: uh.. how do you root then? did you set a passwd for root?
[21:49] <mputtr> ok phew
[21:50] <mputtr> ok. i'm going to read up and just install stuff as i go
[21:50] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: just want to see if my friends machine is up.. but i can always get all ip which are up on lan..
[21:50] <no_gravity> meskarune: holy shit, that works. that means a db of my files if floating around somewhere on my harddisk and some index deamon eats up my cpu cycles regularely?
[21:50] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: ip addresses don
[21:51] <meskarune> no_gravity: it only updates the database when you restart or do "updatedb" so its not using system resources. :P
[21:51] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap:  ip address don't let me distinguish machines.. therefore i need user names.
[21:51] <no_gravity> and where does it store its stuff?
[21:51] <meskarune> no_gravity: and it only updates new stuff, it doesn't rescan everything. linux is much better with file management
[21:52] <Seryth> Can anyone help me fix my sound? I don't know what's gone wrong, but I can't hear anything, and my settings are just telling me that Dummy: Pulse audio exists, not my sound card. Help!
[21:52] <meskarune> no_gravity: to learn more about locate do "man locate"
[21:53] <jetole> Hey guys. I'm on 10.04. I added a group and then added myself into this group quite some time ago, Months ago. I have rebooted the system several times since then and looked at the groups file which looks fine but when I start a new terminal in gnome terminal and run id, it doesn't show me as being a memeber of this group and I can't execute a program which is suid and can only be executed by owner (root) and members of this group
[21:53] <zuhaitz> Hi, I installed Windows 7 and I gave 100 gB for Linux Ubuntu installation, but now I just boot Linux Ubuntu and when I am going to make the partition it only show me the entire HD without the NTFS and free partitions, why? help please
[21:53] <recon69_lap> rahul__bansal: well, it's really up to you friend if he wants to broadcast hi status on the lan, should not be possible for you to find out without him setting something up on this machine
[21:53] <jetole> does anyone know why this might be happening that I'm not in this group?
[21:53] <DexterF> Seryth: no menu to select different sound cards?
[21:53] <DexterF> dropdown or so?
[21:54] <Seryth> DeathWolf: Yes, but only two 'dummys'
[21:54] <rahul__bansal> recon69_lap: what has to be set?
[21:54] <DexterF> zuhaitz: how big is the disk?
[21:54] <zuhaitz> 300gB
[21:54] <meskarune> jetole: can you re-add yourself to the group? maybe an update over wrote the file somehow
[21:55] <AuzBul> what is ubuntu about?
[21:55] <Seryth> DexterF: Only two dropdowns: Playback: Dummy output (pulseaudio mixer) and Capture: Monitor of Dummy output (pulseaudio mixer)
[21:55] <Seryth> !linux | AuzBul
[21:55] <Seryth> oopsie
[21:55] <vadi2> I added a PPA via software sources, yet update manager refuses to update, saying it's not authenticated
[21:55] <mputtr> this might be a silly question, but is there such a thing like using another computer's resource (in the same network) to do encoding while the main one does the bulk of it?
[21:55] <AuzBul> k
[21:55] <AuzBul> thx
[21:55] <mputtr> in ubuntu
[21:55] <Seryth> !ubuntu | AuzBul
[21:55] <vadi2> What is going wrong? Shouldn't the authentication be automatic?
[21:55] <jetole> meskarune: overwrote /etc/group ? I don't think so but I can try
[21:56] <Banish> is it just me or myspace music player doesn't work on chromium on ubuntu 11.10
[21:56] <Banish> ?
[21:56] <DexterF> zuhaitz: maybe boot live cd and run gpart frorm a console, see if ubuntu sees partitions at all
[21:56] <Memran> hello o/
[21:56] <Firebolt> Anyone know how to make qt-at-spi not assert errors and then kill your program in 11.10?
[21:56] <meskarune> jetole: no, over wrote the sudoers file
[21:57] <DexterF> zuhaitz: gpart scans disks for partitions. that win7 isnt encrypted?
[21:57] <meskarune> jetole: all permissions are in sudoers :P
[21:57] <DexterF> Seryth: what sound card?
[21:57] <jetole> meskarune: no this is not something I am running via sudo
[21:57] <Seryth> nVidia nForce something DexterF. It worked fine before today :/
[21:57] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, is not
[21:57] <DexterF> Seryth: onboard?
[21:58] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, I think is not...
[21:58] <jetole> meskarune: also, "all permissions are in sudoers" doesn't make sense. It's a suid file which means I don't need to run sudo to run it as root
[21:58] <Seryth> DexterF: I don't know....I think so.
[21:58] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, I just installed Windows 7 just for work issues (A. Premiere etc)...
[21:58] <jetole> meskarune: by suid I mean setuid
[21:58] <meskarune> jetole: there is a text file with all user permissions in it
[21:58] <harry12> hi all. i installed latest ubuntu on a hp pavillion dv 6700. amd dual, nvidia Geforce 7150m, 4 gb ram etc. dvd drive not working, hardware problems. i am dual booting with win7. so latest grub its here.
[21:59] <DexterF> Seryth: hm. try alsamixer from console (install if not there), see if that says the same. else I'd say maybe a pulse glitch, #pulseaudio might be worth a shot
[21:59] <Seryth> zuhaitz: How many times are you gonna get DexterF's nick wrong? :P
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: and sudoers has nothing to do with why I wouldn't exist in a group. The sudoers file is isolated entirely to the use of the sudo command and similar commands that perform sudo actions
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: what file are you talking about?
[21:59] <Seryth> DexterF: Tried alsamixer, I get this error: seryth@ubuntujacob:~$ alsamixer
[21:59] <Seryth> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[21:59] <jetole> meskarune: I'm pretty sure there is no file with all users permissions in it
[21:59] <DexterF> Seryth: talks to me? :D
[21:59] <harry12> the problem is that after selecting ubuntu on grub screen all i see is purpule colored screen. thats it. it does not load the OS
[21:59] <Seryth> DexterF: :D lol
[21:59] <Firebolt> I get "ASSERT: "interface->childCount() == children.count()" in file adaptor.cpp, line 200" when I try to run Skype and a few other Qt-based programs
[22:00] <jetole> meskarune: I appreciate the help but I think this question may be above your level of knowledge
[22:00] <DexterF> Seryth: didnt notice, client colors my nick! zuhaitz , yo <-
[22:00] <zuhaitz> Seryth, You are right :)
[22:00] <zuhaitz> Sorry!
[22:00] <harry12> the trick for now is to CTRL+ALT+DEL than  on the second time choosing ubuntu recovery
[22:01] <zuhaitz> Im gonna try with gparted and after install?
[22:01] <DexterF> zuhaitz: nuh-uh! gpart! not gparted. well, actually, gparted is worth a shot, too, come to think of it
[22:01] <meskarune> jetole: i guess its an arch thing :?
[22:01] <Seryth> DexterF, zuhaitz: :P
[22:01] <harry12> i see some output i dont understand and than it drops me on (initramfs) there, i give "exit" and finally it start load the OS
[22:01] <jetole> Does anyone know why I am set as a member of a group but when I start a terminal via gnome terminal the id command doesn't show me in that group however when I log in via tty1 the id command shows me in that group
[22:02] <harry12> what is this caused from
[22:02] <nxn> hello everybody. Somebody into helping solving a resolution problem on Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:02] <jetole> meskarune: arch thing? what? There is no file on a Linux system on any arch that contains all permissions for users
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: there is a config file with what groups users have and what the permissions those groups have
[22:02] <jetole> meskarune: no there isn't
[22:02] <meskarune> yes there is
[22:02] <jetole> what file?
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux I mean
[22:02] <jetole> ah I see
[22:02] <jetole> still no
[22:02] <DexterF> zuhaitz: sound like the partition table is somewhat odd.. or the disk layout. but 300gb, thats a laptop disk, no ssd, right?
[22:02] <Memran> oh man, Xming and putty are awesome, when I am forced to use windoze :)
[22:02] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux is more similar to bsd so it might be a bsd thing too
[22:02] <zuhaitz> DexterF, is a PC
[22:03] <meskarune> jetole: I'm at work now though so I can't grep it. :P
[22:03] <zuhaitz> Gparted dont show anything .. Happen the same
[22:03] <jetole> under all Linux on all distros, kernels and architectures the file for what groups a user is in is /etc/group with the primary group being listed in /etc/passwd. That has nothing to do with arch Linux
[22:03] <DexterF> zuhaitz: with 300gb disk? raided a antique store? ;)
[22:03] <zuhaitz> no...
[22:03] <meskarune> jetole: arch linux uses bsd style init configs
[22:03] <zuhaitz> Is a cheap machine with 4gB RAM, Nvidia geforce 315 and Celeron CPU
[22:03] <jetole> meskarune: no that same rule also applies to openbsd and freebsd. Probably all BSD's and I think maybe even all Unix but don't know quote me on all Unix
[22:03] <jetole> meskarune: and?
[22:04] <zuhaitz> For me is very fast, enought
[22:04] <Seryth> DexterF: I have 2 x 120GB disks :P
[22:04] <Guest37832> HI ALL ITS MY FIRST TIME WITH UBUNTU
[22:04] <meskarune> jetole: its very different from debian type systems
[22:04] <jetole> meskarune: arch Linux used /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[22:04] <DexterF> Guest37832: STOP SHOUTING
[22:04] <Seryth> !caps | Guest37832
[22:04] <jetole> meskarune: not like that
[22:04] <Guest37832> sry
[22:04] <cfhowlett> !shout|guest37832
[22:04] <auronandace> !caps | Guest37832
[22:04] <Seryth> lol
[22:04] <DexterF> haha
[22:04] <niko> this is a Test forget this message
[22:04] <zuhaitz> DeathWolf, Gparted dont show my NTFS partitions
[22:04] <zuhaitz> What happen?
[22:04]  * Memran confiscates Guest37832's capslock key
[22:04] <meskarune> jetole: yeah, it has those, but it also has a unified config file
[22:05] <Guest37832> ahahah why so many mods?
[22:05] <Seryth> Guest37832: Welcome to ubuntu :)
[22:05] <meskarune> jetole: like in arch you can set EVERYTHING in the system up in rc.conf
[22:05] <Guest37832> ty
[22:05] <stanman246> how do i upgrade thunderbird to v 10? on 11.10?
[22:05] <jetole> meskarune: Arch Linux stores which groups a user is in in the file /etc/group and the primary group in /etc/passwd. Most if not all BSD do the same. There are no permissions that can be set in either of these files so if you say arch Linux has some magical file where all groups and permissions are set then you are wrong
[22:05] <DexterF> Guest37832: enjoy your visit :D  no mods at all :)
[22:05] <Guest37832> there are mods if i cant use caps :)
[22:05] <Seryth> stanman246: I'm so tempted to say "sudo rm -rf /" :P Don't do that <--- will destroy you
[22:05] <Gskellig> sorry DexterF I left for a bit. when I did sudo dpkg-reconfigrue tzdata it did not work but I ran it as root user and it worked
[22:05] <meskarune> jetole: not set, stored so you can see who has who easily and quickly
[22:06] <zuhaitz> Ah, gparted launched from console said: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table. however, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesnt understand GPT  partition tables.  I said don't run it...
[22:07] <DexterF> zuhaitz: tough luck. fscking with the part table will make win7 unhappy, my guess
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I did the partitions with Windpws 7 installation DVD, so I dont understand why happen this, Windows 7 boots OK
[22:07] <jetole> meskarune: arch Linux, also like all other Linux has file owners and file groups and permission bits set on each file for how the owner can access it, how the user can access it and how everyone else can access it and like every other Linux it also supports the setuid bit on files. Arch can't disable this if they want to unless they are no longer a Linux distro. Maybe if they become Arch BeOS os something then they won't have to rely on the standard ...
[22:07] <jetole> ... Linux ACL system
[22:07] <Guest37832> im sorry i was wondering...since i have only 1gb of ram... what can i do to make ubuntu lighter?
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, What can I do
[22:07] <zuhaitz> DexterF, Why happened this?
[22:07] <Memran> can you guys on 10.10 or higher, take a peek in your repo list for tomcat7 please?
[22:07] <jetole> meskarune: but my point is if I am added to a group in /etc/group on each Linux then I am in that group no matter what. Same thing on FreeBSD and OpenBSD
[22:07] <cfhowlett> Guest37832   lubuntu xubuntu are both lightweight distros for lower specification machines
[22:08] <meskarune> jetole: I never said arch linux didn't have groups and file ownership. I don't know why you are ranting about nothing :P
[22:08] <TheMaster> There is some test here.
[22:08] <stanman246> Seryth, lol, so I saw
[22:08] <DexterF> zuhaitz: weeeeell: before you mess with the table, back it up: grab a usb stick, do:   dd if=/dev/sda of=/path(to/stick/mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[22:08] <Guest37832> i would like to keep ubuntu...but make change some setings(graphics or so) that make it lighter
[22:08] <Seryth> stanman246: :P
[22:08] <Seryth> Memran: It exists
[22:08] <cfhowlett> Guest37832   turn off desktop effects, run in 2d
[22:08] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I dont want to do anything
[22:08] <Guest37832> yeah alredy did it...ty
[22:08] <Guest37832> bye
[22:09] <Guest37832> all
[22:09] <Seryth> Bye o/
[22:09] <zuhaitz> I dont know how, I am journalist and linux user, not programmer neither computing engeneer :D
[22:09] <Memran> thanks, Seryth :) which version are you using?
[22:09] <Seryth> Memran: 11..10
[22:09] <Memran> thanks
[22:09] <rbrooks> zuhaitz, what are u trying to accomplish?
[22:09] <DexterF> zuhaitz: then try and repair it, install linux, then see if you're lucky and grub boots that win7 or if ms is smart enough meanwhile to handle resintalling botched boot loaders. whcih I doubt, since they are a dork company.
[22:09] <Banish> where can i seek help on flash player?
[22:09] <jetole> meskarune: you said there is one file where you can see who has is in what groups, who has permission to access what, etc. You initially said it was /etc/sudoers and you were relating to my problem of my user not being in a group and you've crossed a lot of unrelated boundaries about my problem while stating some blatent inaccuracies so I'm just correcting you. If you didn't want to hear it then when I had said thank you but I don't think you ...
[22:10] <jetole> ... understand then you should have left it at that
[22:10] <zuhaitz> DexterF, But I cant install linux
[22:10] <nxn> ubuntu 11.10. lightdm.conf pointed towards scripts with xrandr. scripts work if executed in terminal. While logging scripts do not work, even more leave me on the login screen. Any ideas appreciated?
[22:10] <zuhaitz> I need to make partitions before and Linux cant see the partitions that I just have now
[22:10] <DexterF> zuhaitz: well, backup mbr from live cd and then fix it from live cd, too. then when the table is readable to linux, install linux
[22:10] <zuhaitz> instalator program and gparted show only the HD, not the NFTS partitions neither free partition
[22:10] <stanman246> anyways, tb 9 is packed with 11.10. How to upgrade to tb10?
[22:11] <zuhaitz> DexterF, any manual for mbr fix?
[22:11] <DexterF> zuhaitz: journalist? get a macbook ;)
[22:11] <DexterF> for style alone
[22:11] <zuhaitz> DexterF, I dont want to use any apple software any more
[22:12] <zuhaitz> And I just can't understand that answer
[22:12] <zuhaitz> I'm using linux since 1998
[22:12] <zuhaitz> debian user since potato, and now ubuntu linux user
[22:12] <sals> hello everyone
[22:12] <zuhaitz> I use Linux, OSX and now I NEED Windows for A. Premiere :L)
[22:12] <meskarune> jetole: there is a file with a list of groups and users along with permissions. but I"m at work on windwos and can't grep it. I don't know everything off the top of my head. :P anyways, I think something got over written and that is why your group dissappeared. if you remake the group it will say if it already exists or not
[22:13] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   I installed OSX/Win7/Ubuntu successfully  http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=212837&st=0#entry1427797
[22:13] <zuhaitz> Did I say I don't want to use apple software anymore? :-) I now want to use Linux for all things, and Windows - Adobe soft for multlimedia
[22:13] <ganimede> is that normal that in the bash in cannot do "sudo something >file" ?
[22:13] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, I dont want to know anything of apple
[22:13] <zuhaitz> fuck them
[22:13] <harry7> hi all. my frech install ubuntu 11.10 wont load. i am stuck at the purple screen after grub screen. anyone can help? thanks
[22:14] <zuhaitz> :-)
[22:14] <blizzow> I enabled XDMCP in my lightdm.conf and installed x11vnc, yet I still can't vnc to the console to login.  Anyone here know what I'm doing wrong?
[22:14] <cfhowlett> Harry7 "french install"  what is that?
[22:14] <ganimede> harry7, graphical card. what is it?
[22:14] <cfhowlett> harry7   nver mind -- you meant fresh.  Right?
[22:14] <harry7> :) i meant fresh install
[22:14] <h00k> !language | zuhaitz
[22:15] <harry7> nvidia integrated geforce 7150m
[22:15] <elektriks> how do I mount my encrypted homedir when booted in recovery mode?
[22:15] <cfhowlett> harry7   seen this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860135
[22:15] <harry7> i installed the prop driver but this hang up is hapening with all drivers i tried in
[22:15] <zuhaitz> Sorry h00k , I will never pronunce "apple" anymore
[22:15] <zuhaitz> Sorry, really
[22:15] <harry7> i will now thanks
[22:16] <DexterF> zuhaitz: outta ideas.   You're saying that you're creating partitions, but you can't see them?
[22:18] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, What could I try?
[22:18] <ganimede> harry7: download the latest drivers from nvidia
[22:18] <lukescharf> What does cat /proc/partitions show?
[22:18] <flagg0204> when using preseed files for automated installation is it possible to use  a custome location for a users homedirectroy, during the account creation part
[22:18] <ganimede> i had exactly the same issue the other day, with a GTX460
[22:18] <kraz3d> Okay, so if I have a AVI file on my system and I'd like to be able to openly stream it if someone were to access http://myip/file.avi -- how would I go about this?
[22:18] <kpas_> when upgrading to 11.10 and I want to keep gnome do I need to install both of these pakages or one - gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[22:19] <DexterF> zuhaitz: cfhowlett seems to knwo thing and I need to run. godspeed :D
[22:19] <dejahthoris> kraz3d; just set up apache
[22:19] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, Well, I am a Linux user, and I -need- Windows 7 for my work, ok, then I installed Windows 7 and used Windows 7 partition program (from the installer) and left free 100gB for Linux, now Linux Ubuntu installer cant see my partitions, not NTFS neither free partition so I cant install, and If I install I'll loose Win7
[22:20] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   first: gptscyh is a utility commonly used by multibooters for installing OSX and Ubuntu on the same HDD.  It addresses the different bootup structure.  sudo apt-get install to get gptsync.  Then you invoke it at the command line.  IT REWRITES THE MBR...
[22:20] <lukescharf> So, you're seeing this from the LiveCD?
[22:21] <lukescharf> So, you're seeing this from LiveCD or Installer -- rather than from a running Linux system?
[22:21] <sals> is there on this server PHP related channel?
[22:21] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, yes
[22:21] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, I want to install Linux with Windows in the same machine, I have Win7 and now I cant install Linux because I cant see partitions, so If I change that Ill loose data
[22:21] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Does your system have a RAID controller?
[22:21] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; if you've got the live cd running, what happens if you bring up a terminal windows and type "fdisk /dev/da0"
[22:21] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   I created USB ubuntu, installed gptsync, sync'd my HDD and haven't had  boot problem since.
[22:22] <cypher-neo> cfhowlett, Does gptscyh work for Ubuntu + Windows installs as well?
[22:22] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, is that in reposotories?
[22:22] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: You're setting a dual-boot machine.  The Windows installation is done, and you're working on the Linux installation?
[22:22] <kellyanne> Whats wrong with working at home? Are you threathened? my sister-inlaw makes $46 every hour on the computer. She has been out of work for 7 months but last month her pay was $5203 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this google link..  http://tinyurl.com/7ftokq3
[22:22] <cfhowlett> windows on GUID/GPT?  *SHOULD* work
[22:22] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; sorry I meant ad0
[22:22] <cypher-neo> cfhowlett, Also, I don't see gptscyh in the repositories
[22:22] <zuhaitz> hey
[22:23] <zuhaitz> I can see partitions with fdisk
[22:23] <meskarune> don't spam kellyanne
[22:23] <zuhaitz> fdisk /dev/sda and I have 2 partitions
[22:23] <zuhaitz> NTFS
[22:23] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   gptsync in in the universe repos
[22:23] <zuhaitz> cfhowlett, is normal that fdisk can see the partitions and not gparted?
[22:23] <ipso>  I just recently upgraded KVM in Ubuntu and when I try to start one of my Windows VMs (works fine with a Linux VM) I get the error: pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-e1000.rom" however the file exists here:  /usr/share/qemu/pxe-e1000.bin . Anyone know how I can fix this?
[22:24] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   not in my experience...
[22:24] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; as long as fdisk can see the partitions, you can still install
[22:24] <zuhaitz> dejahthoris, gparted cant see partitions
[22:24] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; you can use fdisk to create the partitions
[22:24] <zuhaitz> no
[22:24] <zuhaitz> DOS Compatibility flag is set (DEPRECATED!)
[22:25] <lukescharf> (Zuhaitz: As an aside, I prefer to use VirtualBox and CrossoverOffice for Windows-only apps.  Still want to help you get the dual-boot system running, though.)
[22:25] <zuhaitz> that is fdisk when I write "c"
[22:25] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; yes you can create partition(s) with fdisk
[22:25] <harry7> ganimede: can you tell me how to install the latest drivers from nvidia? i have currently 280.13
[22:25] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, editing and rendering FULL HD video in a virtual machine is ... a bad option :)
[22:25] <ganimede> i have 290
[22:25] <zuhaitz> dejahthoris, fdisk dont let me:
[22:25] <zuhaitz> DOS Compatibility flag is set (DEPRECATED!)
[22:25] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   agreed
[22:25] <ganimede> let me see if i still have the page
[22:25] <zuhaitz> anyway fdisk can see the 2 NTFS and gparted cant
[22:26] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; you can still create a partition despite it giving that warning
[22:26] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Indeed -- I didn't realize that was your use-case.
[22:27] <dejahthoris> zuhaitz; fine then. don't belive me and never install ubuntu
[22:27] <zuhaitz> i made new partition
[22:27] <zuhaitz> an extended partition
[22:28] <zuhaitz> fdisk now find 2 NTFS and new partition and gparted cant
[22:28] <zuhaitz> :(
[22:28] <meskarune> harry7: you can download the latest drivesr from nvidia's website: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and then compile them using the readme file inside the archive
[22:28] <lukescharf> zuhaits: Do you see the primary NTFS partition that holds your Windows system?
[22:28] <|Anthony|> silly question... What do i need to do to plug my desktop into my laptop so i can get internet access on the desktop? The laptop connects to a wireless router, but i don't have long enough ethernet cable
[22:29] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, only in fdisk not in gparted
[22:29] <lukescharf> The Ubuntu LiveCD installer can partition the empty space.
[22:29] <zuhaitz> is beacuse the GPT and MBR ?
[22:29] <lukescharf> It's a little bit basic, but you don't have to pre-create the partitions for it.
[22:29] <zuhaitz> I dont have idea of waht that are xD
[22:29] <harry7> cfhowlett:  i read the post you gave me. it instructs me to see the boot in verbose mode while it loads the OS, so to understand what hapens and what hangs up. but ive been able to to that by choosing ubuntu recovery and see that there is something wrong with "ATA link is slow (error 16)"
[22:29] <meskarune> |Anthony|: you could buy a wifi card for you desktop computer
[22:30] <cfhowlett> harry7   remind me of your problem?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, installer cant see any partition, there are 3, and it shows me HD like empty
[22:30] <OerHeks> zuhaitz, is it a Sata disk, and bios set to IDE-modus ?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> I cant see NTFS and the new one I created with fdisk
[22:30] <cfhowlett> harry7   nevermind pink login right?
[22:30] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, dont know
[22:30] <|Anthony|> meskarune, truth be told, i'm bringing my box to a friends house right now.
[22:30] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, should I reboot and take a look?
[22:30] <harry7> i choose ubuntu on grub screen and it wont load the OS. i am stuck on the purple screen
[22:30] <OerHeks> zuhaitz, set it to AHCI, and you be fine
[22:30] <|Anthony|> so i don't have time to get a wifi card
[22:30] <harry7> all i can do is CTRL+ALT+DEL
[22:30] <ganimede> cannot find it anymore, harry7
[22:31] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: This might have been covered in parts of the discussion that I'm not following (I'm trying to do my own work, too), but what kind of disklabel are you using?
[22:31] <lukescharf> I guess you said GPT
[22:32] <harry7> so i am stuck with the purple screen of death
[22:32] <Wargasm> harry7: CTRL+ALT+F1?
[22:32] <zuhaitz> yes GPT
[22:32] <ganimede> however, i do remember having had to do "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current" before running the new setup, NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-290.10.run
[22:32] <cfhowlett> harry7   more research needed - seems to be a hardware/kernel conflict...
[22:33] <cfhowlett> Harry7 are you dual booting
[22:33] <harry7> after i am on the (initramfs) i give "exit" and than it starts to load the OS
[22:33] <ganimede> (use 32 or 64 bit version according to your system)
[22:33] <harry7> yes i am dual booting with win7
[22:34] <nxn> harry7: do you end up in the login screen or the one before it?
[22:34] <meskarune> |Anthony|: I guess you could plus an ethernet into your laptop and do internet sharing... http://www.articles4ever.com/communications/broadband-internet/internet-sharing-using-a-linux-box-5841.htm
[22:34] <harry7> nxn : i am stuck at the purple screen. i think its before the login
[22:34] <cfhowlett> harry7   boot windows/accessories/system utilities/system info: get the specs on your HDD, i.e. ATA, SATA, etc.  reboot ubuntu and make sure you matched those settings
[22:34] <kpas_> when upgrading to 11.10 and I want to keep gnome do I need to install both of these pakages or one - gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-session-common
[22:35] <harry7> Wargasm: yes i can go to a TTY.. but than what?
[22:35] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: This document (intended for Mac OS X Boot Camp users) has some information about how to use the Ubuntu installer with GPT:
[22:35] <lukescharf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[22:35] <zuhaitz> OerHeks, hey it is IDE Mode, but there is no AHCI mode, should I remove Onboard SATA Controller from Bios?
[22:36] <lukescharf> Should be able to cherry-pick the right parts out of the document fairly easily -- it looks like the relevant part starts around the first screenshot.
[22:36] <zuhaitz> Why is GPT and no MBR?
[22:36] <Wargasm> harry7 well, you said you were stuck at a purple screen of death so I was wondering if it was locked or not
[22:36] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: I was going to ask you the same question.  What kind of hardware are you using?
[22:36] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   gpt and mbr are different partitioning schemes.  gpt = apple, mbr = windows/default buntu
[22:37] <zuhaitz> Why I have GPT one?
[22:37] <harry7> wargasm: right now i am on the normal GUI ubuntu
[22:37] <|Anthony|> thanks meskarune... that was along the lines of what i was looking for
[22:37] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: here's what Microsoft has to say about GPT:
[22:37] <lukescharf> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
[22:37] <lukescharf> Gotta update my Windows 7 knowledge and see if it's the default for Windows 7 installations now.
[22:38] <cfhowlett> zuhaitz   see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/gdisk.8.html
[22:38] <lukescharf> Er, that article is what Microsoft has to say about Windows 7 and GPT.  They seem to be pro-GPT.
[22:38] <derkling> \j #beagleboard
[22:39] <harry7> cfhowlett:  as i remember my hdd its a ata 200gb partitioned in 3 partitions. win7ntfs C+D, and ubuntu xt4
[22:39] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, How can I put it into MBR?
[22:39] <zuhaitz> xD
[22:39] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: how much do you care about your existing Windows 7 installation?
[22:39] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu 11.10/64 Server.  Can't get the system to halt all the way.  Halt command makes it up to the point where on the console it states that the system has halted.  Yet the server is still on.  I'm able to halt with a linux live cd.
[22:40] <cfhowlett> Harry7 AND a Windows Recovery Partition, right?
[22:40] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: If you're put a lot of effort into it, then the easiest way to make the change would not be the correct solution.
[22:40] <Thecle669_Unarme> Bonsoir a tous
[22:40] <harry7> cfhowlett:  now that one is gone.
[22:41] <harry7> cfhowlett: i didnt want to let all those gigs for win
[22:41] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, why?
[22:41] <zuhaitz> I dont want to know anymore of GPT XD
[22:41] <lukescharf> Zuhairz: Oh, it looks like you can change it from within Windows?
[22:41] <lukescharf> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26203-convert-gpt-disk-mbr-disk.html
[22:41] <lukescharf> Not sure if it applies to boot disks.
[22:41] <cfhowlett> harry7   so your buntu HDD settings are ATA?  See Ubuntu Disk Utilities
[22:41] <harry7> ok
[22:41] <elektriks> this doc doesnt say anything about how to mount an encrypted home dir from the console.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome    What do I do?
[22:42] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, that seems to sound nice xD
[22:42] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: Before finding the post that I just sent you, I thought the easiest way to change it was to clobber the partition table and start over.  Changing it on a running system requires a bit of slight-of-hand, but it can be done.
[22:43] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, the last link you gave me is nice, :D
[22:43] <zuhaitz> you are nice :D
[22:44] <_Marcus> Hello, I am getting this error when doing "sudo apt-get update": "E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." Why am I getting this? How can I fix it?
[22:44] <harry7> cfhowlett: omg i dont have disk utility
[22:44] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate fil
[22:44] <harry7> have to install it but my hdd is ata
[22:44] <lukescharf> Zuhaitz: Thanks!  But let's make sure it works before getting too excited -- there are a number of operations in Windows disk-management world that you can do on any disk except the boot disk, and this could be one of them.
[22:45] <cortman> Marcus, which ones failed to download?
[22:45] <cfhowlett> harry7   you have it, but it's not obvious.  Ask someone using your version of buntu - I only boot LTS so I'm on 10.04
[22:45] <harry7> its a mes with this unity
[22:46] <_Marcus> cortman: It said "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_universe_source_Sources   Hash Sum mismatch"
[22:46] <dRounse> is a celeron d powerful enough for a home/file server running ubuntu server
[22:46] <cortman> _Marcus, run "sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/sources/*" and then run apt-get update
[22:47] <harry7> cfhowlett: i found it
[22:47] <_Marcus> cortman: It said "rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/sources/*': no such file or directory"
[22:47] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate file, Please give inputs
[22:48] <harry7> cfhowlett:  my hdd is 200gb, disk is healthy,location Port 1 of SATA host adapter, Connection ATA
[22:49] <nxn> .xprofile does not do anything. Any ideas?
[22:49] <cfhowlett> harry7   OK then, we now know that buntu correctly ID'd the HDD.  That's good.  Sadly, it also means IDK what the heck is going on with your box.  Sorry.  Plz ask the channel again...
[22:50] <cortman> _Marcus, urgggh. Long day. Try /var/lib/apt/lists
[22:50] <dRounse> ! | ubottu
[22:51] <zuhaitz> lukescharf,
[22:51] <zuhaitz> lukescharf, That tool of windows 7 have options to convert to dynamic and GPT but not MBR
[22:52] <harry7> cfhowlett: when i boot on 11.10 it hang on the purple screen. CTRL+ALT+DEL and than i try ubuntu recovery. after i see a lot of (ata slow to respond error 16 ) it gives up and throws me on i(initramfs). from there i do "exit" and than it starts to load the OS.
[22:52] <_Marcus> cortman: It's hanging. It says "99% [Waiting for headers]" and is hanging.
[22:52] <harry7> any help appreciated
[22:52] <cortman> Marcus, apt-get update is?
[22:52] <_Marcus> Ah there is goes
[22:52] <harry7> when i boot on 11.10 it hang on the purple screen. CTRL+ALT+DEL and than i try ubuntu recovery. after i see a lot of (ata slow to respond error 16 ) it gives up and throws me on i(initramfs). from there i do "exit" and than it starts to load the OS.
[22:52] <_Marcus> it*
[22:53] <psusi> harry7, sounds like you may have a bad drive... open the disk utility and check the SMART status
[22:53] <harry7> psusi: it says DIsk is healthy
[22:53] <harry7> in green
[22:53] <psusi> harry7, hrm.. you might want to run the long self test just in case
[22:54] <TheRedOctober> Does anyone know a good front end for pulseaudio networking?  In 10.04 I used padevchooser, which appears to not be available in current and upcoming releases.
[22:54] <psusi> harry7, and check the output of dmesg for errors
[22:54] <arun_india> Want to write shell script : Which takes input text file and then extract word & then write to separate file, Please give inputs
[22:54] <harry7> ok
[22:54] <arun_india> @harry : can u suggest something
[22:54] <cortman> arun_india, easy enough- post on the forums for better success
[22:54] <iceroot> arun_india: #bash
[22:55] <arun_india> thanks
[22:55] <stanman246_> how do i get lightning to be in dutch, like thunderbird?
[22:56] <kaiowas> yay, after some tries.. i finally successfully installed ubuntu!
[22:56] <_Marcus> kaiowas: Nice
[22:57] <nxn> Has anybody ever really overcome the problem with setting undetected resolutions? Reading the forum for two days, tried the three solutions proposed to be working unsuccesfully. Any ideas?
[22:57] <harry7> psusi: do you want to paste the output of dmesg on pastebin?
[22:57] <cortman> Marcus, that do it for ya?
[22:57] <harry7> psusi: the file is long
[22:57] <kaiowas> Now.. Is there someway i can fix so that my trackpad works like it does in OSX? I use a Macbook Pro. I want the two finger scrolls function.
[22:57] <psusi> harry7, sure
[22:57] <tumppu> kaiowas go to mouse settings
[22:58] <tumppu> and there "enable two-finger scrolling"
[22:58] <_Marcus> cortman: "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oniric-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:58] <cortman> Marcus
[22:58] <cortman> hm
[22:58] <tumppu> system settings, pointing device tms
[22:58] <cortman> _Marcus, I have to sign off. Make a post on the forums and we'll pick it up from there.
[22:58] <kaiowas> tumppu, thank you
[22:59] <_Marcus> cortman: The apt isn't that bad right now, as I already have the software I need.
[22:59] <h00k> !gpgerror | _Marcus
[22:59] <h00k> hmmm
[22:59] <_Marcus> !gpgerror | _Marcus
[22:59] <h00k> !gpgerr | _Marcus
[23:00] <h00k> there we go.
[23:00] <tonton-flinqueri> bonsoir
[23:00] <h00k> !fr | tonton-flinqueri
[23:00] <_Marcus> It's the default Ubuntu repositories though. us.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:00] <meskarune> kaiowas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[23:01] <harry7> psusi: i got this two lines that might be interesting
[23:01] <harry7>   162.424794] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[23:01] <harry7> [  167.708477] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[23:01] <harry7> psusi: all the rest seems no error
[23:01] <tonton-flinqueri> hello
[23:01] <_Marcus> Hi
[23:02] <harry7> psusi: cause i can tell that there is something that prevent this os to load. as soon as it unblocks itself i can see the hdd led light iluminated and that means the OS is loading
[23:04] <harry7> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845114/
[23:07] <MeXTuX> what is the best choice for me?? I have a P4 (3.2 GHz), Motherboard P4M900-M4 with 3 GB RAM. Ubuntu 11.10 or Xubuntu 11.10???
[23:07] <_Marcus> MeXTuX: This isn't related to your question but, please don't include more than one question mark if not needed.
[23:07] <dejahthoris> MeXTuX; that just depends on whether you like unity or xfce better
[23:07] <MeXTuX> I like Unity
[23:08] <_Marcus> Then get Ubuntu 11.10
[23:08] <Guest19629> MeXTuX, xubuntu will be faster, but Unity should do fine.
[23:08] <Guest19629> who's the admin here?
[23:08] <MeXTuX> Does Unity demand lots of video resources??? I don't have a fancy video card
[23:09] <dejahthoris> MeXTuX; it requires more than xfce
[23:09] <kaiowas> ah, spotify installed.. now i can work normally.
[23:10] <geoffw8> err hey All
[23:10] <geoffw8> I was wondering if you could help
[23:11] <geoffw8> I'm about to order a ubuntu 10.4 server for a rails app, but I'm not sure if I should order 64bit or 32bit
[23:11] <geoffw8> I don't know much about 64bit, in my head its still "new"
[23:11] <geoffw8> I know nothing about this,
[23:11] <_Marcus> geoffw8: There's not much difference between the two
[23:11] <geoffw8> I was wonering if someone could point me in the right direction?
[23:11] <geoffw8> ok, so 64bit would be ok
[23:12] <Gentoo64> use 64 bit
[23:12] <geoffw8> no software incompatibility?
[23:12] <Gentoo64> if its not really old
[23:12] <geoffw8> etc etc
[23:12] <_Marcus> geoffw8: Just some programs are for 32 bit and some are for 64.
[23:12] <dejahthoris> geoffw8; will it have more than 4gb ram?
[23:12] <geoffw8> 32gb ;)
[23:12] <geoffw8> ok, cool
[23:12] <_Marcus> Then get 64 bit
[23:12] <geoffw8> its running rails/mysql
[23:12] <dejahthoris> geoffw8; over 4gb and you need 64
[23:12] <geoffw8> cool, thanks y'all
[23:12] <geoffw8> ok great, thanks for the pointer dejahthoris
[23:12] <dlentz> dejahthoris, there is the pae kernel
[23:12] <Infernal> Hello. Does anyone know why wont my flash drive and external hard rive wont mount. Ubuntu 11.10, reinstalled 2h ago, installed LAMP, Quassel, Skype.
[23:12] <geoffw8> I didn't know this place existed, I'm running ubuntu on my netbook
[23:12] <geoffw8> think I'll stay
[23:13] <geoffw8> (thanks for your help all)
[23:13] <kaiowas> It feels like my internet is faster in Ubuntu.. downloading files etc.
[23:13] <Gentoo64> kaiowas, probably placebo
[23:13] <Gentoo64> :)
[23:14] <Infernal> Never the less, its just cool :P
[23:14] <kaiowas> in osx im usually around 1.8mb/s. Here im at 2.3-2.4
[23:14] <_Marcus> What is the Alternate version of Ubuntu?
[23:14] <_Marcus> Like ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[23:14] <Gentoo64> _Marcus, just a different installer afaik
[23:14] <Gentoo64> not proper graphical
[23:15] <_Marcus> Gentoo64: So text installer?
[23:15] <Gentoo64> yea
[23:15] <_Marcus> Great
[23:15] <Gentoo64> its good for lower ram systems
[23:17] <lukescharf> zuhaitz: Bummer about not being able to convert back to MBR.
[23:17] <lukescharf> I'll see if I can Google up an alternative.
[23:17] <lukescharf> But my workday is ending, so I may have to run before I can finish up.
[23:18] <lukescharf> (Wife and kid are expecting me.)
[23:18] <psusi> harry7, you didn't get the whole thing pasted... try just pasting from /var/log/kern.log, but the error you mentioned certainly sounds like the problem is a bad drive
[23:19] <harry7> psusi: if this is the case, what can help me?
[23:20] <dejahthoris> harry7; it could just be flawed driver support for your harddrive controller
[23:21] <harry7> dejahthoris : any solution or fix?
[23:22] <harry7> dejahthoris: win7 its ok and older versions of ubuntu
[23:22] <harry7> before 10.04
[23:22] <dejahthoris> harry7; that proves it's the hdd controller driver
[23:23] <harry7> dejahthoris: so i should go and install 7.04? :)
[23:23] <dejahthoris> harry7; no, but you could try to force a different driver
[23:24] <harry7> dejahthoris: how ? are you willing to try with me?
[23:25] <harry7> dejahthoris: we can try, i dont have anything to worry if something goes wrong. i stick usb flash and reinstall it again
[23:25] <neohippie> hi, i've created a group and i have added my user to the group using 'sudo usermod -aG group username' but when i type 'groups' I don't show as a member of the group
[23:26] <dejahthoris> harry7; what did your dmesg say about the hdd controller it detected?
[23:26] <harry7> dejahthoris: i am going to paste full dmesg now on pastebin.
[23:27] <OerHeks> harry7, i have seen the log, what type Nvidia do you use? ( can't read that back)
[23:28] <ph4rell> quit
[23:28] <harry7> oerHecks: ge force 7150m i think its a integrated on the motherboard of my hp pavillion dv 6700
[23:29] <betanick> hello
[23:30] <harry7> harry7 http://paste.ubuntu.com/845146/
[23:31] <harry7> dejahthoris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/845146/
[23:33] <betanick> does anyone know how to keep my mounts from changing? ie: on boot 1 sda is a 250gb drive and on boot 2 sda is a 80gb drive. I have 4 satas connected to the motherboard and 2 connect to a sata controller card. please help :)
[23:35] <betanick> i had to reinstall ubuntu because of this problem i didn't check when i issued a chmod command to one of the drives being shared and accidently chmoded the system drive :(
[23:35] <muelli> uh. why would chmod a *drive* in first place? -.-
[23:35] <dejahthoris> harry8; does your machine have only the one sata harddrive?
[23:35] <harry7> dejahthoris: what about that other hdd contoller driver?
[23:35] <neohippie>  hi, i've created a group and i have added my user to the group using 'sudo usermod -aG group username' , and when i type 'groups username' the group is listed  but when i type 'groups' I don't show as a member of the group. Any ideas as to why?
[23:36] <dejahthoris> harry7; does your machine have only the one sata harddrive?
[23:36] <harry7> dejahthoris: yes
[23:36] <muelli> neohippie: you need to log in freshly.
[23:36] <betanick> muelli: so i can access files using samba
[23:36] <neohippie> muelli, thanks i'll do that
[23:37] <harry7> dejahthoris: this is a laptop and i mostly use the interior hdd. i have a exterior hdd but i use it once a year. right now its not connected
[23:37] <elektriks> how come no one has made an open source web email interface like gmail yet?
[23:37] <betanick> i've been using centos 5 and decided i'd switch to ubuntu
[23:37] <dejahthoris> harry7; the problem with the "drive slow to respond" is that it's trying to detect a pata harddrive on the legacy ata controller which isn't disabled (ata5) If you disable it in your bios, you should lose the problem
[23:37] <betanick> maybe i should switch back?
[23:38] <muelli> elektriks: go ahead, build one :) You'll be the next free software hero.
[23:38] <kraz3d> If my ISP blocks port 80 and webservers, does anyone know a way to get around this?
[23:39] <harry7> dejahthoris: so i should go in my bios and disable hdd legacy...? can you give some more info?
[23:39] <muelli> kraz3d: what do you want to achieve?
[23:39] <kraz3d> Hosting a webserver from my computer.
[23:40] <dejahthoris> harry7; the details depend on your exact bios, and since I don't have the same machine as you, I can't give exact directions. But you want to leave the sata controllers enabled and the pata controllers both disabled
[23:40] <mun> does anyone know how to get some meaningful error messages from a cronjob? my syslog shows only "error (grandchild #1779 failed with status 2) etc.
[23:40] <betanick> nobody here has had or is having the same issues as me?
[23:40] <JessD> Can anyone tell me how to force automount to set permissions for any device it mounts?
[23:40] <muelli> JessD: have you read man fstab?
[23:40] <dejahthoris> kraz3d; there are always dynamic-dns services, for a small fee
[23:41] <harry7> dejahthoris: ok i will try but what is pata for and since my wife uses this win7 on the other hand is there any danger?
[23:41] <JessD> Yes, but I fail to find a line in my fstab that defines default behavior
[23:41] <JessD> only specific device behavior
[23:41] <JessD> Which I don't want
[23:41] <JessD> muelli: ^ sorry
[23:41] <kraz3d> dejahthoris: But is there any way for me to maybe set up my own dns?
[23:41] <harry7> dejahthoris: is there any way to tell linux kernel not to mes with pata?
[23:42] <muelli> JessD: so what do you want?
[23:42] <JessD> Muelli : To force automount to set permissions for any device it mounts
[23:42] <dejahthoris> harry7; yes, you can add ata5,ata6 to the module blacklist
[23:42] <JessD> muelli : So if I get some random usb key, it'll automount world read/write
[23:42] <imanc> I've just created a remote user on an ssh server, but I'm not seeing any highlighting in the terminal. Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
[23:43] <betanick> JessD: automount? is that when you doble click on a drive that has not benn mounted?
[23:43] <muelli> JessD: but that's what fstab does, no?
[23:43] <JessD> betanick : No, that's when you plug in a drive and the os mounts it for you
[23:43] <JessD> muelli : My fstab does not contain entries for "Any Device" or any equivalent thereof that I can find
[23:43] <betanick> JessD : oh ok
[23:43] <harry7> dejahthoris: let me check with bios first. if i can disable from there. if not i will ask here how to add ata5 ata6 to blacklist..
[23:43] <harry7> thanks
[23:43] <dejahthoris> harry7; but it's safe to try disabling the pata controller. win 7 detects sata directly. and even if there's a win 7 problem, you can always go back to the bios and re-enable it
[23:44] <JessD> muelli : Yet every device I plug in mounts, ergo something else is defaulting me to 700, for example.
[23:44] <harry7> ok thanks
[23:44] <Somelauw> Hi I am trying to use skype, but even though my microphone volume is at maximum, I can't hear a thing
[23:45] <Somelauw> Or well very quietly
[23:45] <Somelauw> But incomprehensible
[23:45] <muelli> JessD: I don't fully get what you want to achieve. But maybe udisk (check man 7) helps you
[23:46] <muelli> Somelauw: maybe run alsamixer -c 0 and turn the mic boost toggle if there is any.
[23:46] <diverdude> how can i start syslog with -r ?
[23:46] <Somelauw> muelli: They are bars and they are maximized.
[23:46] <Somelauw> What does -c 0 even mean?
[23:47] <betanick> JessD : you can disable automount and mount manually? does that help you?
[23:48] <Somelauw> It is ridiculous low compared to recording sounds on windows.
[23:49] <JessD> muelli : Looks promising, but I got to say that I am unimpressed w/ Ubuntu's documentation lately, esp. anything dealing w/ freedesktop.  Example, do you see anything about how udisks is configured?
[23:49] <TorpedoSkyline> I'm guessing people are aware of the Chrome install issues in Oneiric?
[23:50] <diverdude> any1?
[23:51] <JessD> muelli : Nothing in gconf, nothing in /etc...  Argh.
[23:51] <muelli> JessD: yes: "On Linux, udisks relies on recent versions of udev(7) and the kernel."
[23:51] <diverdude> how can i start syslog with -r ?
[23:51] <muelli> diverdude: Ctrl+Alt+T, then "syslog -r"
[23:51] <muelli> well, kinda...
[23:51] <JessD> muelli : Hmm, already checked out udev, didn't find anythign on default perms for usb block devices; will try again...
[23:52] <mun> how do i change my machine name? i've tried changing it in /etc/hostname but the syslog still uses the oldname in its stamps
[23:52] <diverdude> muelli: no the ubuntu syslog does not directly support -r
[23:52] <bastidrazor> !hostname | mun
[23:53] <muelli> JessD: so you want i.e. /dev/sdb carry, say, 0777 once you plug a pendrive in?
[23:54] <JessD> muelli : Exactly
[23:54] <muelli> JessD: well. that's crazy. But that's a udev thing
[23:54] <JessD> muelli : No, it's completely logical given the scenario, but each to his own I suppose.
[23:55] <harry7> back again. unfortunately my bios didnt have options like unable disable sata-pata. so if anyone can help me add pata on kernel blacklist? thanks
[23:55] <mun> bastidrazor, hmm i've done that but syslog is still stamping using the old machine name
[23:56] <mun> bastidrazor, hostname returns the new name though
[23:56] <betanick> JessD : did you see what i msgd you?
[23:56] <JessD> betanick : Sorry, new to irssi; reading now
[23:56] <muelli> well JessD. Sure, you're free to do whatever you want. But I have a hard time imaging a proper usecase for that unless you have a box that's setup to brick everybody's pendrives. So you could make udev run a script once you plug a pendrive in. that could then change permissions. but I think udev can handle permissions itself.
[23:56] <muelli> but I wouldn't know how off the top of my head
[23:57] <harry7> in effort to make kernel not wait for pata so it can load the OS
[23:57] <zacarias> is there an alternative to gnome-tweak-tool?
[23:57] <JessD> meulli : OK, I need some qualifications there.  How exactly does opening r/w to other users "brick" a pendrive?
[23:58] <muelli> JessD: simple: echo foo >/dev/sdb
[23:58] <muelli> boom
[23:58] <muelli> JessD: but udev does exactly what you want, i.e. just put MODE="0777" to your udev rule and off you go.
[23:59] <imanc> how can I get the ubuntu version from cmd line?
[23:59] <JessD> muelli : How is mounting a drive with more perms equivalent to that?  I'd hate to do that, but that doesn't follow
[23:59] <JessD> muelli : Or do you mean, any system user "could" do that..?


[19:49] <irc_user_xubuntu> Hello there, rapid question: How can I check the xubuntu ISO using the $ gpg –verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS, please
[19:53] <irc_user_xubuntu> Well, that is because I cannot find the release repository with the SHA256SUMS and SHA256SUMS.gpg for xubuntu as https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/, for example.
[19:53] <irc_user_xubuntu> Could any one help me please?
[19:53] <diogenes_> !checksum
[19:54] <diogenes_> also the files are here: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/
[19:58] <irc_user_xubuntu> Well done diogenes_, your last answer is exactly what I was looking for!
[19:58] <irc_user_xubuntu> Thank you so much dude!
[19:59] <irc_user_xubuntu> Have I nice day.
[19:59] <irc_user_xubuntu> Bye.
[19:59] <diogenes_> you're welcome
[19:59] <irc_user_xubuntu> !exit


[13:12] <james_w> gmb: howdy, would you have a few minutes for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpad/copy-archive-package-sets/+merge/28165 ?
[13:20] <gmb> james_w, Sure
[13:30] <stub> gmb: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/memcache/+merge/28170
[13:31] <gmb> stub, Will look at it after I've finished james_w's
[13:31] <stub> Ta.
[13:33] <bdmurray> gmb: if you could review my mp that'd be great https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/launchpad/bug-97633/+merge/28109
[13:34] <gmb> bdmurray, Will do
[13:34] <gmb> Merge proposals are like buses today...
[13:42]  * gmb hates at inconsistent naming styles for test* methods.
[13:44] <gmb> james_w, r=me with one minor nitpick
[13:47] <james_w> thanks gmb
[13:48] <gmb> stub, Your first test doesn't appear to test anything. Or, rather, if it failed, what would the output be?
[13:48] <stub> eh?
[13:48]  * stub has a look
[13:49] <stub> Its testing that it doesn't explode when I omit the unit
[13:50] <gmb> stub, Ah, right, I see.
[13:51] <gmb> yes, that's now actually quite obvious. Sorry
[13:51] <stub> There are no hooks to test that the specified expiry is actually what is being used, but that is the case for the existing tests (I'd need to hack things to add the calculated cache time as an HTML comment I think).
[13:52] <stub> Which I could add easily enough but might make some tests explode.
[13:54] <gmb> stub, No need to change it (maybe you could update the narrative to say that it won't explode, I guess).
[13:54] <gmb> stub, r=me anyway
[13:54] <stub> Ta.
[14:00] <stub> gmb: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/cache-bugcomments/+merge/28177 is the follow on to that branch. Not sure if you want to review it today or punt until after an ec2 run has discovered any test fallout.
[14:01] <gmb> stub, I might as well review it today. If EC2 results necessitate large changes then you can always request a review on just those revisions.
[14:33] <gmb> bdmurray, r=me. Nice work!
[14:39] <gmb> stub, r=me on your second branch too.
[14:54] <stub> Ta.
[14:55] <stub> gmb: Don't see a tick on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/cache-bugcomments/+merge/28177
[14:56] <gmb> stub, Oh, it's still spinning. Hang on, I'll re-do it.
[14:56] <gmb> stub, Done
[18:50] <james_w> could somebody mark https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpad/copy-archive-test-refactor/+merge/28073 approved please?
[19:07] <jelmer_> james_w: sure
[19:08] <jelmer_> james_w: can you land the changes yourself?
[19:08] <james_w> yeah, just can't approve them
[19:08] <james_w> thanks
[19:09] <bac> mars: ping
[19:36] <mars> bac, pong
[19:36] <bac> hey mars.  are you reviewing today or leonard (or no one?)  :)
[19:37] <mars> bac, ah, Leonard is sick today.  My bad, I should have swapped with him
[19:37] <mars> since I'll be RM next week
[19:38] <mars> bac, do you have a branch you would like reviewed?
[19:38] <bac> mars: actually, yes, if you can
[19:38] <bac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-162754/+merge/28227
[19:39] <bac> mars: and could you ask leonard to be sure to be OCR next week?
[19:39] <mars> bac, I'll set a calendar item for it
[19:39] <mars> and yes, I will
[19:39] <bac> sweet
[19:39] <bac> and have fun being RM!
[19:39] <mars> CHR, OCR and RM, oh my.
[19:40] <mars> bac, btw, +1 on the branch concept - I had that exact problem when I registered Geany, which uses SF and Github
[19:40] <bac> mars: yeah, it's been a wart for a while
[19:41] <bac> hope this approach makes people happy
[19:41] <mars> bac, has the text been run by mrevell?
[19:41] <bac> mars: he looked at some early screenshots.  i'll do a 'text' review with him
[19:42] <mars> ok, thanks.  These pages are critical for conveying new concepts - the text is important
[19:43] <mars> Like "what's a driver, and why do you offer me the choice of not being one?" :)
[19:43] <bac> yep.  i've requested the review
[19:43] <bac> brb
[19:43] <mars> I take it Curtis counts as the UI reviewer?
[19:56] <bac> mars: i'll get a UI review, whether curtis or another
[19:57] <mars> bac, ok. I am doing a cursory review now, not official.  I'll include my recommendations with the code review.
[19:57] <bac> thanks mars
[21:06] <EdwinGrubbs> mars: can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-535430-needspackaging-timeout-part3/+merge/28240
[21:07] <mars> EdwinGrubbs, yes, please add yourself to the que
[21:07] <mars> queue
[21:54] <mars> EdwinGrubbs, looking at your patch, I realize that I do not have the knowledge necessary to review it.  I know the upper layers of Launchpad, but little of the lower.
[21:55] <EdwinGrubbs> bac: can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-535430-needspackaging-timeout-part3/+merge/28240
[21:55] <bac> EdwinGrubbs: sure
[21:56] <EdwinGrubbs> thanks
[21:57] <bac> EdwinGrubbs: the SQL comment you wrote is: Whether an upstream link should be added if it does not already exist.
[21:57] <bac> EdwinGrubbs: should that "should" be a "may"?
[21:58] <EdwinGrubbs> sure, that sounds fine.
[22:05] <bac> EdwinGrubbs: done
[22:05] <EdwinGrubbs> cool


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