[05:35] <evert> insanekane : sudo apt-get build-essential won't work ?
[05:35] <Hagus> My sources.list did get messed up but there were failures to connect to repositories.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> the repo servers have been having a hard time on and off for the last few weeks.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> often it takes me 4 tries to get all the updates
[05:36] <Hagus> I was stuck with an adept which told me everything was installed and unupdatable.
[05:36] <octan> Dr_Willis, more ones are needed :P
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> octan,  yea. they need bittorrent like update repos!
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> thats a scary idea.. but the MMORPGs are doing that
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Hagus,  thats when you go to the shell :P
[05:37] <Hagus> Jucato - I have started off with 10.0 but I have asked it to upgrade everything online from the outset.
[05:37] <octan> Dr_Willis, yes thats a good iead, but its securety risk imo
[05:37] <Hagus> I tried kdesu and sudo, Dr_Willis, but to no avail.
[05:38] <Hagus> I had done something that got the whole thing locked.
[05:38] <Hagus> Even after a reinstallation, it would not let me fix it.
[05:38] <octan> Dr_Willis, making a upgraded.img on a p2p netword : scary. :P
[05:38] <evert> when i trie to compile something with KDevelop i get the following error : make: aclocal: Opdracht niet gevonden
[05:39] <Hagus> My wife is convinced that after a few days of SUSE I shall break it too :)
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> octan,  :)  the game companise seem to get away with it.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> octan,  of course if all the pc's on my linux lan shared the same updates that one downloaded - it would save me some time.
[05:40] <octan> lol
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> I need to put /var/cache/apt (or whatever) on a nfs share
[05:40] <octan> Dr_Willis, indeed.
[05:41] <Hagus> Anyway, as I said, I appreciated the friendship and help that I received here and felt that it would be wrong of me just to disappear.  I hope to keep coming back if that is ok :)
[05:41] <evert> i have to go , cya ... really thanks for all the help you all gave to me the newbe :)
[05:41] <evert> if you're in belgium i'll give you a beer lol
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> QUitter! :P
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Windows Answer ---> reformat/reinstall
[05:42] <Hagus> lol
[05:43] <octan> Dr_Willis, you know you can make a script thats a makes a torrent.img of your /var/cache/apt/ each time you have had a upgrade.
[05:43] <Hagus> Oddly enough my SUSE told me that I was running a 64 bit system whereas it is only a 32 bit system (i think).
[05:43] <octan> that will save you some time
[05:44] <Kr[4] t05> I'm back.
[05:44] <octan> just setup a cssh "cluster" session on your lan
[05:46] <foot> octan:  alright, I know that I am a pain being so new and cutting my teeth on such a big bite, but...  did clicking on the hyperlink on the unzip page download the file or just open it for me to look at?
[05:47] <octan> foot, go back and right click on it instead
[05:48] <foot> octan: and then?
[05:48] <octan> save as.. put it in you /home/foot/ dir
[05:48] <octan> or copy.. i dont know what you are using
[05:49] <foot> octan: alright. next?
[05:49] <octan> go to that dir
[05:50] <octan> right click on it again
[05:50] <octan> select decompress
[05:50] <octan> erm.. exrtact
[05:51] <octan> btw what version of the kernel are you running?
[05:52] <|lostbyte|> HAy ! guys...
[05:53] <octan> howdy
[05:54] <foot> octan:  I dont know where to look for that  info
[05:56] <|lostbyte|> foot, uname -r
[05:57] <foot> octan: 2.6.15-23-386
[05:58] <foot> octan: I have synaptic on my computer, now how do I open it?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> type sudo synaptic at a shell :) is one way
[05:59] <octan> foot, ehh. realy you should read the kubuntu documentations. ++ more
[06:00] <foot> octan: you mean the kubuntu help logs
[06:00] <woodstock_> !paste
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:02] <oliver> hi all
[06:03] <octan> foot, the stuff you are about to do is noob++ stuff. meaning in windows. verry andvanec user :P it took me 2 days getting my pvr 500 to work.
[06:03] <oliver> i am new to kubuntu-dapper (just switched from Fedora) and i need help with libxine-extracodecs ....
[06:03] <octan> but i have 2 tuners :P
[06:04] <octan> foot, go here  http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/
[06:05] <Healot> !multiverse
[06:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:05] <octan> foot, if you read the changelogs on that site
[06:05] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[06:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:06] <octan> foot, you'll see that 0.7,0 doesnt compile with your kernel
[06:06] <trip> Anyone having issues with apps after recent updates? Like fonts not showing up clearly and sections of text only showing up on mouseover...
[06:06] <octan> foot, so need 0.6.3
[06:06] <trip> I suspect the issue has to do with gtk
[06:07] <oliver> i don't even see the package in snaptic, although the sources a activated ...
[06:07] <octan> its called synaptic not snaptix
[06:07] <foot> octan: which program wont compile with my kernal?
[06:07] <oliver> octan:sorry
[06:07] <octan> foot, ivtv-0.7.0.tar.gz
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !info synaptic
[06:07] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[06:08] <foot> octan: so i need0.6.3 got it
[06:08] <octan> extract it in you /home/foot/ivtv dir
[06:09] <foot> octan: and I extract to...ok
[06:09] <octan> open cli
[06:09] <andriijas> how do i make all sounds go to my usb headset except from music in amarok?
[06:09] <octan> foot, thats "console"
[06:10] <foot> octan:  instaed of program
[06:10] <anil> how do i change the k menu font size?
[06:12] <andriijas> anil: system settings appearence
[06:12] <octan> -i
[06:12] <foot> octan: where should synaptic be located to enable it to work?
[06:12] <octan> foot what?
[06:12] <anil> i changed the fonts, but it doesn't change the menu
[06:13] <insanekane> andriijas: you can probably do that using arts in some way
[06:13] <scast> !freesource
[06:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about freesource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:13] <scast> !easysource
[06:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:13] <scast> lol
[06:13] <andriijas> insanekane: maybe. how do i just change the default soundcard?
[06:14] <foot> octan: I downloaded and extracted synaptic. now in order to use it I have to be able to open it. *here is a hanky* so,  what or where is the apropriet place to have the file stored as right now I cannot open it
[06:14] <trip> ugh
[06:14] <octan> ??
[06:14] <nalioth> foot: downloaded? synaptic should be on the system by default
[06:14] <oliver> so how can i get the correct package libxine-extracodecs, if it won't show up in synaptic
[06:15] <octan> foot i didnt tell you to downloade synaptic.. i tould you to do sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:15] <insanekane> andriijas: no idea :)
[06:15] <foot> octan: oh
[06:15] <nalioth> octan: synaptic should be on the system by default
[06:15] <nalioth> no wait
[06:16] <nalioth> why is adept not working?
[06:16] <foot> ocE: Invalid operation synaptictan:
[06:16] <nalioth> foot: why is adept not working?
[06:16] <foot> it is.
[06:16] <nalioth> why are you messing about with synaptic, then?
[06:16] <nalioth> !tell foot about repos
[06:17] <nalioth> foot: read your PM and enable universe and multiverse
[06:17] <Healot> on Kubuntu the apt front end is "adept"
[06:17] <foot> already did, yesterday
[06:17] <octan> you guys are making him confused now :P
[06:18] <nalioth> !tell foot about restricted
[06:18] <octan> !tell me about boobs
[06:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about boobs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:18] <octan> :P
[06:19] <foot> all componints in the repository manager are enabled
[06:19] <octan> foot, i tould you to open konsole
[06:20] <nalioth> foot: if you mind your spelling, libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse
[06:20] <foot> octan: I have it open
[06:20] <ryanakca> George: how did it go?
[06:20] <George> ryanakca: hah. hahaha. hah.
[06:21] <octan> foot i tould you to cd into the dir wher you extracted the ivtv file
[06:21] <oliver> pls, help,  how can i get the correct package libxine-extracodecs, if it won't show up in synaptic (universe,multiverse dapper backports)
[06:21] <ryanakca> oliver: pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list please
[06:21] <Hawkwind> oliver: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:21] <foot> octan: say agin please.?
[06:22] <oliver> Hawkwind: won't work
[06:22] <octan> foot i tould you to cd into the dir wher you extracted the ivtv file
[06:22] <Hawkwind> oliver: Then you need to enable the correct repos
[06:22] <octan> foot cd /home/foot/ivtv/ivtv-0.6.3
[06:22] <Hawkwind> oliver: It's in multiverse
[06:23] <foot> octan:  put that in the konsole promt?
[06:23] <octan> something like that
[06:24] <foot> nalioth:  I pasted and got nothing in adept
[06:24] <andriijas> whats the keyboard shortcut for katapult?
[06:24] <lindo_ferretti> hi all
[06:24] <trappist> andriijas: alt-space by default
[06:25] <nalioth> !tell foot about pastebin
[06:25] <lindo_ferretti> i have problems about gnome...could anyone help me?
[06:25] <oliver> Hawkwind: its activated in Synaptic (http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  dapper-backports  main restricted universe multiverse )
[06:25] <trappist> lindo_ferretti: you'll have better luck in #ubuntu
[06:25] <nalioth> foot: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin please?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> heh
[06:26] <octan> whats katapult goof  for?
[06:26] <octan> *good
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> lunnching thangs
[06:26] <foot> nalioth: yes, if I had permission "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:26] <ryanakca> George: I take it it didn't got so well?
[06:26] <octan> Dr_Willis well it suxz
[06:26] <octan> :P
[06:27] <trappist> foot: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <ryanakca> foot: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:27] <lindo_ferretti> i use kubuntu and xubuntu , i tried to install gnome but it doesn't run
[06:27] <nalioth> foot: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:27] <ryanakca> lindo_ferretti: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <lindo_ferretti> already done many times....
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> :_
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> and......
[06:27] <octan> trappist, & ryanakca ,, foot wants ivtv modules installed. your making him confused
[06:27] <ryanakca> lindo_ferretti: then you just need to select the session "GNOME" from the kdm menu (when you logout
[06:27] <George> ryanakca: er, I've just reinstalled dapper
[06:28] <lindo_ferretti> already done many times...it crashes
[06:28] <ryanakca> lindo_ferretti: what are the errors?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> see - NOW we are getting to the  actual problem. :P
[06:28] <lindo_ferretti> i tried using kdm gdm xdm wdm
[06:28] <foot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20106
[06:29] <lindo_ferretti> i don't know the errors cause it crashes
[06:29] <foot> all I want today is to be able to watch an f'n movie tonight with my girlfriend.
[06:30] <foot> :p}
[06:30] <|lostbyte|> foot, Rent one.. :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> as a test -  kill the kdm service. login at the console, edit the .xinitrc make it have 1 line   'gnome-session' then try startx. and see if theres any errors shown
[06:30] <foot> no tv, only computer
[06:30] <lindo_ferretti> i try
[06:30] <ryanakca> foot: you have a dvd drive on your computer?
[06:30] <foot> no
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> also you may want to install/use irssi for a console irc client - so ya can chat in here and test out X
[06:31] <ryanakca> foot: then where are you getting the movie?
[06:31] <foot> but I do have cabe going into the wintv-pvr 150 card and am trying to make it work
[06:31] <oliver> Hawkwind: SOLVED: i had to manually add multiverse in sources.list, it was not an option in Synaptic (backports multiverse was wrong)
[06:31] <excitatory> quick question, i just ran a dpkg update, and i got the following warning/error:  Failed to fetch file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository/dists/apt-build/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  File not found
[06:31] <ryanakca> lindo_ferretti: yeah, go ctrl-alt-f1, and run irssi, and then go back to X with ctrl-alt-f7... and back to irssi with ctrl-alt-f1, and etc
[06:32] <ryanakca> excitatory: go "sudo apt-get update" instead
[06:32] <oliver> Hawkwind: amarok is playing MP3s !!!!, iam happy again
[06:32] <Hawkwind> oliver: Glad to hear it :)
[06:32] <excitatory> ryanakca: that's the error i get from doing that exact command.
[06:33] <ryanakca> excitatory: can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[06:33] <excitatory> ryanakca: sure, one moment..
[06:33] <oliver> ok i'll have a break, see u later
[06:34] <ryanakca> foot: ok, and are you trying to install something threw apt?
[06:34] <excitatory> ryanakca: whoa.. never mind.. found the problem.. there was an apt-build line at the top for some reason.. not quite sure why..
[06:34] <ryanakca> excitatory: lol, :D
[06:35] <foot> ryanakca:  yes. I was following a step by step guide
[06:35] <ryanakca> excitatory: automatix? (I've never really used it...but heard it messed with things)
[06:35] <ryanakca> foot: and what package are you trying to install?
[06:35] <foot> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[06:36] <excitatory> ryanakca: nah.. i generally don't mess with 'automatic' things like that and easyubuntu.. i'm too worried they're doing something in a way i don't prefer..  neurotic like that, i am.
[06:37] <nalioth> !automatix
[06:37] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[06:37] <nalioth> !worksforme
[06:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:37] <ryanakca> excitatory: lol :)
[06:37] <zered> hi everybody
[06:37] <rosh1182> how do I make sure ivman is actually running?
[06:38] <foot> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20109
[06:38] <ryanakca> foot: what package are you trying to install?
[06:38] <zered> I don't know if I can ask for help about smb4k in kubunut here ? I had'nt problem with mandriva before
[06:40] <ryanakca> rosh1182: ps aux | grep ivman
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> zered,  you just did. :P whats the problem?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i can guess the answer now. :P
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> the suid bits are not set on the smbmount and smbumount commands by default. :P
[06:41] <foot> ryanakca: as far as I know...  even know any more. octan was trying to help me do it differently but I was having trouble understanding what he ment. I am still VERY green at this
[06:41] <ryanakca> foot: what package are you trying to install at the moment?
[06:42] <ryanakca> foot: what goes wrong... why doesn't the howto work?
[06:42] <foot> ./ivtvfwextract.pl pvr_<IP_ADDRESS>54_inf.zip
[06:42] <zered> Dr_Willis: Hi. I have a file server in my lan. When I mount my share drive it mount and umount in the same time. Where can I find log ?
[06:42] <aliasfred> foot: they seems good on readable names :)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> zered,  huh. that made no sence.
[06:43] <ryanakca> foot: and what happens...
[06:44] <zered> Dr_Willis: in smb4k windows I see feww second the icon of mounted drive and it disappear
[06:44] <foot> ryanakca: bash: ./ivtvfwextract.pl: No such file or directory
[06:44] <zered> I hope I am clear
[06:44] <ryanakca> foot: can you read this please: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> zered,  sounds like its failing to mount
[06:44] <ryanakca> foot: ok... are you in the directory that contains ivtvfwextract.pl
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> zered,  run smb4k from a terminal and see if any errors are showing up.
[06:44] <aliasfred> Dr_Willis: zered: i think zered want to see samba log
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> aliasfred,  yea - but smb4k last i checked - was miss-setup - where the smbmnt and smbumnt commands were not set suid like they needed to be.
[06:46] <unix_infidel> *nod*
[06:47] <foot> ryanakca: ok so I am in that directory. so it had already been extracted and I can move on to the next fase?
[06:47] <toxicfume> hi all
[06:47] <unix_infidel> i think SCP is simpler than smb for most things.
[06:47] <zered> aliasfred: Hi. I don't know if it's a samba or smb4k problem.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> ive been using that FUSE samba thing for  a bit - its niceer in ways :P
[06:47] <toxicfume> where is the file that stores the URL of the repositories stored in Kubuntu?
[06:47] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: fuse?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> but tehers a scp fuse thing also
[06:47] <zered> Dr_Willis: When I launch from konsole I have smb4k and the prompt is available in Konsole
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> File System in User Space
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> lots of neat tricks it can do.
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> zered,  now try to mount the share.
[06:48] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: file system in user space?
[06:48] <|lostbyte|> tomsku, /etc/apt/source.list
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> !fuse
[06:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> !info fuse
[06:48] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> !search fuse
[06:48] <ubotu> Found: windowsdrives, fuse, adept crash fix
[06:48] <unix_infidel> ahhh, ntfs writing.
[06:49] <superman007> would it be possible to install kubuntu on a second partition.. and only boot to that partition with a cd? (I dont want to write over the mbr or anything).. so that it looks like windows is the only os on the pc
[06:49] <ryanakca> foot: my best guess is to start from square one and follow the instructions... you shouldn't get any problems... who knows... you might of inadvertedly done the same thing twice or forgotten something
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUSE_(Linux)
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> it can do much MORE then ntfs writing
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> thats whats annoying about the bot factoids
[06:49] <zered> Dr_Willis: it ask for "password"
[06:49] <toxicfume> where is the file that stores the URL of the repositories stored in Kubuntu?
[06:49] <zered> But I have configure to use sudo
[06:49] <superman007> toxicfume probably /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> zered,   you are trying to mount  a windows xp share? or a linux share?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> zered,  you proberly also need to set what user for smb4k to be logging into the shares as.
[06:50] <unix_infidel> zered: yea, it prompts me fora username password just to authenticate to a workgroup.
[06:50] <unix_infidel> but even if i type in the right one...it still does that.
[06:50] <zered> Dr_Willis: but before it was ok under mandriva. In samba it's configure to be accessible for everyone on the lan
[06:51] <foot> ryanakca: I did indeed have a few of those problems, also the guide is not completly correct in a couple of commands. this has been overcome so far. thank you for giving me the link on how to ask good questions.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> zered,  theres a dozen things mandriva could have set different...
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> its trying to login as root user if you ran it with sudo - is my guess.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> and that may be dissallowed.
[06:52] <ryanakca> foot: np, and good luck :)
[06:52] <zered> Dr_Willis: ;-) I see that evryday
[06:52] <foot> ryanakca: I do fall into the catagory of just using the comp as a tool. and I have dove into a dificult at best, so I hear, thing to accomplish. thank you for your time and brain
[06:53] <zered> Dr_Willis: I disabled sudo ans I have this :
[06:53] <zered> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[06:53] <zered> smbmnt failed: 1
[06:55] <DaSkreech> OK So the Update I just got is the .oh release?
[06:55] <unix_infidel> zered: like he said, the suid is incorrectly set for those binaries.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> zered,  thats what i said at the VERY start. :P
[06:56] <zered> unix_infidel: Hi. You mean the rights for smb4k or samba ?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu has smbmnt and smbunmnt not set suid.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> i always set those :) guess its a bit of a security issue however
[06:56] <unix_infidel> the suid.
[06:57] <unix_infidel> i think nautilus manages them automagically though.
[06:57] <superman007> Can anyone help? I want to install kubuntu on my windows computer, But only boot with a cd
[06:57] <zered> unix_infidel: If i understand that, i guess I have to set suid for smb4k application ?
[06:58] <unix_infidel> zered: yea/
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> superman007, wait you want to install kubuntu or just use a CD
[06:58] <zered> unix_infidel: ok I try it
[06:58] <superman007> Admiral_Chicago. I want to install kubuntu on a second partition but boot to that partition with a cd
[06:58] <superman007> Admiral_Chicago.. that way there is no boot loader on the hdd
[06:58] <Dr_Willis>  sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt  and    sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount    are the 2 commands i always got to use to get smb4k working right for me.
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> superman007, hmm, i know there is a way to do that, but I don't know how...
[06:59] <toxicfume> On this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, you have an option to select "Packages" and "Sources". What are the "Sources"? Are they source codes or what?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> superman007: repeat that? You want to install Kubuntu but not be able to boot to it?
[07:00] <superman007> toxicfume. yeah source code
[07:00] <superman007> DaSkreech. I want to boot to it from a cd
[07:00] <toxicfume> superman007: that means if i dont do any development, i wouldn't need them right?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> superman007: Then use the Desktop Cd
[07:00] <neuron> hello
[07:00] <superman007> DaSkreech. So if I install it without a boot loader and without overwriting the mbr.. I can boot to it with the install cd?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> superman007: Why would you want it to do that?
[07:01] <neuron> ive just installed teamspeak, and i got some problems
[07:01] <neuron> i cant hear any of my friends speaking
[07:01] <draik> superman007, why don't you want to change your mbr?
[07:01] <superman007> DaSkreech. Because its a company owned laptop and other people will be using it
[07:02] <DaSkreech> superman007: So make the default OS Windows
[07:02] <uwo> does an1 know how katapult chooses which apps can be launched through it and which not? (i can't launch amule through it, althought it is installed)
[07:02] <DaSkreech> They probably won't even know
[07:02] <DaSkreech> uwo: I think it has to be in your kmenu
[07:02] <unix_infidel> superman007: you can burn a cd to be the bootstrap.
[07:02] <draik> and change the default wait time from 10 sec to about 2-3
[07:02] <unix_infidel> sort of like a bootdisk that hands over the computer to the linux OS
[07:02] <DaSkreech> uwo: And if you just installed it you have to kill katapult and reopen it. It indexes on startup
[07:02] <superman007> unix_infidel. Are there any insturctions on doing that for kubuntu?
[07:03] <toxicfume> DaSkreech: can you help me? I just have a very basic question
[07:03] <coachj> !ati
[07:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:03] <unix_infidel> superman007: google, there's tons of literature on it.
[07:03] <uwo> DaSkreech: tnx
[07:03] <DaSkreech> toxicfume: No Idea
[07:03] <zered> Hey folks, it's ok for me. I've found it : http://www.debuntu.org/2006/05/31/58-how-to-smbfs-smbmnt-must-be-installed-suid-root/
[07:03] <superman007> unix_infidel. What should I google for? creating a bootstrap cd?
[07:03] <zered> thanx for help about suid ! Thanx so much
[07:03] <DaSkreech> toxicfume: I'm basically a basic guy :)
[07:03] <toxicfume> hehe okay
[07:03] <toxicfume> anyone else?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !ask > toxicfume
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> WAS there a question? :P
[07:04] <toxicfume> DaSkreech: I already did that
[07:04] <DaSkreech> superman007: Why don't you just make Windows the default OS then everyone will just boot it up straight into windows
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Then try again :-) I didn't see it :)
 On this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, you have an option to select "Packages" and "Sources". What are the "Sources"? Are they source codes or what?
[07:04] <superman007> DaSkreech. because there is that small chance they could hit the down arrow key or something
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> I really think they need to make windows the first entry. :P sadly.
[07:05] <zered> Haaaa ! It's mounted but i see nothing in folder !!!!
[07:05] <uwo> one more q: is it possible to "index" katapult? (to get to firefox i have to type F I R E F O X _ W, as before I have "firefox central" as the option)
[07:05] <draik> superman007, change the wait time to about 2 or 3 seconds
[07:06] <eeos> hi there. I would like to use qt4 along with qt3 on kubuntu 606
[07:06] <RogueX> Hello everyone
[07:07] <DaSkreech> toxicfume: Ah yes. They are the sources
[07:07] <RogueX> Does anyone know where Kjots stores it's data?  I want to back it up.
[07:07] <toxicfume> DaSkreech: ah okay, in that case, if i dont do any development, i wouldn't need them right?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> You can apt-get the source code for a program. If you are never going to do that don't bother to add those
[07:07] <superman007> toxicfume. no you dont need them
[07:07] <DaSkreech> toxicfume: That's a safe assumption
[07:07] <toxicfume> DaSkreech: thanks, that's all i wanted to know :)
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Thanks I'll be here tilll lunch!
[07:08] <toxicfume> okay, i'll probably bother you again then :P
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> hmm... k3b can burn .Bin/Cue  cant it?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> !cue
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about cue - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:09] <DaSkreech> toxicfume: Please do :)
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_Willis, you can use bchunk to make an iso out of bin/cu
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> cue
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> yea - but i sware i used just k3b once for the burning job
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> not sure if k3b called bchunk or not
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> no its a package
[07:11] <superman007> k3b is just a frontend to cdrecord
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo a sudo apt=get install bchunk and then run bchunk from commandline
[07:11] <coachj> is ir as complicated as it sounds to get 3d working on ati cards?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> trivial
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:13] <coachj> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[07:13] <coachj> try that for K3b
[07:16] <coachj>  is it as complicated as it sounds to get 3d working on ati cards?
[07:17] <dev_> ##debian
[07:17] <eeos> !qt
[07:17] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[07:17] <eeos> !qt4
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about qt4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:18] <eeos> !qtdesigner
[07:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtdesigner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:18] <jkeel> why would Adept be telling me that it can't apply changes when I try to upgrade from the default KDE from the install CD to the newest kde 3.5.4 (using the kubuntu.org repo as listed on the website)?
[07:20] <jkeel> anyone else having this problem? ^
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> let me try. :P
[07:21] <coachj> I had no problem with it.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> whats the sources.list line you are using?
[07:22] <grothesk> jkeel: Use CLI.
[07:22] <jkeel> Dr_Willis: deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.4/kubuntu dapper main
[07:23] <jkeel> grotesk: I tried. lemme do it again and tell you what it said to me
[07:23] <grothesk> Then you will may be see that there are some pachages being held back.
[07:23] <anil> is it possible to install kernel 2.6.17 right now?
[07:23] <jkeel> anil: I'm wondering the same thing..
[07:24] <jkeel> grothesk: some pkgs are being held back... kdeaddons, artwork, pim, utils, sdk. What do I need to do to correct it?
[07:24] <anil> it apparently fixes some issue with my laptop..
[07:24] <jkeel> anil: mine too.. PB G4 12"
[07:24] <anil> hmmm
[07:24] <jkeel> grothesk: the specific msg from apt-get is 'The following packages have unmet deps'
[07:25] <grothesk> jkeel: start wiht 'sudo apt-get install package1 package2
[07:25] <jkeel> grothesk: why do all that? Shouldn't this "just work"?
[07:26] <mig_> what's the best graphical application for taking care of partitions?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> gparted,qtparted
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> depends on what ya mean by 'taking care of.'
[07:26] <grothesk> jkeel: Some packages are renamed.
[07:26] <mig_> er. manage - I have some unpartitioned space I need to use
[07:26] <grothesk> kdelibs-data iirc.
[07:26] <zered> good bye, i have to eat
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> darn them for renaming packages! :P
[07:27] <mig_> :)
[07:27] <jkeel> grothesk: now I get more errors. 'Depends: kaddressbook-plugins >=3.5.4 but is not going to be installed'
[07:27] <grothesk> jkeel: Which package do you try to install?
[07:27] <jkeel> grothesk: I guess just try apt-get'ting all those packages independently?
[07:28] <jkeel> grothesk: kde
[07:28] <jkeel> the meta-pkg
[07:28] <mads> hi
[07:28] <grothesk> Yes, you need to install them independently.
[07:28] <grothesk> kde-meta-pkg is broken afterwards I guess.
[07:29] <jkeel> broken afterwards?
[07:29] <soulrider> hey everyone
[07:30] <grothesk> jkeel: kde-meta-pkg is not installable in kde 3.5.4.
[07:30] <neuron> have any of you got teamspeak installed and working?
[07:30] <grothesk> Why should it... It's just a meta-pkg.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> well installing/upgrading 141 packages... :P
[07:33] <jkeel> anil: did you find an answer about getting 2.6.17 installed?
[07:33] <anil> well i haven't looked for it yet...
[07:33] <anil> let me search
[07:34] <harmental> is qtparted a option to play around with ntfs and ext2/3 partitions?
[07:34] <harmental> i mean a GOOD option...
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> its a front end to parted.. it can resize ntfs i think
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> but its best to backup/defrag/scandisk the ntfs befor and after using the tools on it
[07:35] <harmental> so...it doesnt replace partition magic?
[07:35] <jkeel> unix_infidel: know anything better?
[07:35] <harmental> unix_infidel: whats your story?
[07:35] <unix_infidel> harmental: 160GB of data gone in a matter of seconds.
[07:36] <unix_infidel> i keep backups....they are like diapers.
[07:36] <DaSkreech> How do  I get a change log from apt-get?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> I make it a point to never use partition magic any more. :) after it screwed up on me totally.
[07:36] <unix_infidel> jkeel: plain ole parted or cfdisk.
[07:36] <neuron> ave any of you made teamspeak to work?
[07:36] <harmental> unix_infidel: ok...that was for the ntfs partition? or all of them??
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> for my needs parted/qtparted/gparted does everything that Partition magic does. and better in many ways
[07:36] <harmental> Dr_Willis: have you tried it over nfts?
[07:36] <neuron_> have any of you made teamspeak to work?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Ive used qt_parted to resize/shrink ntfs file systems befor
[07:37] <unix_infidel> same....
[07:37] <unix_infidel> it works fine...i just make sure you have backups and their respective scripts handy
[07:37] <harmental> Dr_Willis: i wanna do that!
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> harmental,  there ya go then. :P
[07:38] <harmental> i dont care much for the data on the ntfs partition....so wont backup....but it would really bother me to loose ext2 / 3 data...
[07:39] <jkeel> anil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217657
[07:39] <jkeel> anil: look good ^
[07:40] <anil> hmm google threw up bug reports
[07:40] <oklinux> any one use google earth in linux ?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Hard drives can die at any time... anything not backed up :) even NOW as we speak.. is data at risk.
[07:40] <jkeel> oklinux: sometimes
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> ive lerned that the hard way.
[07:40] <oklinux> what kind of video card do you need to make it work jkeel ?
[07:41] <jkeel> oklinux: the online version, no the downloaded client. sorry :)
[07:41] <oklinux>  hello Dr_willis long time no see
[07:41] <anil> oklinux: it wokred fine on my FX5200
[07:41] <jkeel> oklinux: but my friend uses it, and he's got an ATI Radeon card on a laptop
[07:41] <jkeel> or maybe not radeon, but some ati card
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> hi oklinux .
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> oklinux,  been on dayshift for a week. :P
[07:41] <oklinux> I just got a regular video card nothing special
[07:42] <oklinux> I need to change video card
[07:42] <harmental> resize option for ntfs is greyed....
[07:42] <harmental> why is that?
[07:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I have used google earth on linux (if you install it with sudo it runs once as root and you have to delete .googlearth (I think it is) before you can run it as a user
[07:43] <jkeel> harmental: possibly you don't have ntfs tools installed to do ntfs resizing?
[07:44] <harmental> jkeel: ok...didnt know that....
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn,  never ran it as a root. :P heh.
[07:44] <harmental> ill check...
[07:44] <harmental> am i a looking for a particular package?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> I always use the various parted-enabled live cd's to redo my drives.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> i find it safer that way :P
[07:45] <steveire> Has anyone had shipit cds sent to germany and how long might it take?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> How do  I get a change log for a package from apt-get?
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Just use apt-listchanges
[07:46] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Thanks
[07:48] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Is that apt-list or apt-get list?
[07:51] <harmental> one more thing....has anybody tried to resize a VISTA ntfs partition with linux?
[07:51] <harmental> that would kinda extreme
[07:51] <jkeel> harmental: is there a difference between VISTA ntfs and XP ntfs?
[07:52] <harmental> dont know....
[07:52] <jkeel> harmental: if VISTA claims it's an ntfs, I doubt it's changed any
[07:52] <harmental> jkeel: but ive read some spooky stories about messing up with vista...
[07:52] <jkeel> ah
[07:52] <jkeel> maybe there are changes, then... you know MS ;)
[07:53] <harmental> jkeel: me too....but wanted to check if anyone had tried...
[07:53] <jkeel> harmental: so you're running Vista?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> anyone have kxdocker working and can give me thier config file
[07:54] <harmental> dual boot VISTA / KUBUNTU....
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I just have it installed and get the change logs whenever I install a new package I have never actually used it interactively but I think it can be used that way (the executable is apt-listchanges)
[07:54] <harmental> but dont really use vista....
[07:55] <jkeel> harmental: anything breaktaking new improvements? :D
[07:55] <harmental> i gave it a try because i needed matlab....and i though..hey what the heck...lets give good old gates a try...
[07:55] <harmental> nah.....the "continue" windows are REALLY annoying...
[07:56] <harmental> now that i got matlab 2006a (for windows!) turning on linux i barely boot on vista
[07:56] <harmental> grpahics are nice but hungry for resources.....
[07:57] <harmental> overall...if you set the xp interface you dont really see a big difference....a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit slower maybe...
[07:57] <jkeel> heh
[07:58] <harmental> i wanted to give ms a last opportunity before shutting it up for good.....
[07:59] <harmental> never coming back....
[07:59] <jkeel> harmental: yeah, I made that decision a long time ago :)
[07:59] <jkeel> Win98 era
[07:59] <harmental> even matlab for windows run faster on linux!
[07:59] <jkeel> lol
[07:59] <oklinux> harmental new nick name for windows hasta la vista baby
[07:59] <excitatory> so i hate adept, and never use it...so i purged the 'adept' package.. but now still, the adept notifier still shows up..  how do i get rid of it?  (see no other adept-related packages)
[07:59] <harmental> jeje...
[07:59] <farous> harmental: you run matlab through wine or vimware
[07:59] <harmental> wine....
[07:59] <farous> harmental: for this is my main prob matlab
[08:00] <farous> harmental: which wine and do you have a link for configuration?
[08:00] <harmental> farous: look at my post at wine database...
[08:00] <harmental> farous: im phantom...
[08:00] <harmental> whats your release?
[08:00] <farous> harmental: i had it running with the old wine when i was running mandrake 9. I can not configure it anymore now
[08:01] <ubuntu> i have a problem, how can i every start ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex half automatickle
[08:01] <harmental> farous: are you using 2006a?
[08:01] <farous> harmental: wine from repos matlab is an od one i think 12 or 13 let me check
[08:02] <ubuntu> i have a problem, how can i every start ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex half automatickle
[08:03] <harmental> farous: didnt try R12 nor R13 just 2006a....my wine is 0.9.18
[08:04] <farous> harmental: will check your post
[08:04] <harmental> farous: hope it helps!
[08:04] <farous> thanx you have been more then helpful
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: edit /etc/network/interfaces - in the eth0 section put 'pre-up athtool -s speed 10 duplex half'
[08:05] <farous> harmental: it is at winehq database right
[08:05] <harmental> farous: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=49
[08:06] <farous> thanx :)
[08:06] <farous> ah you have much newer release then mine :)
[08:07] <jorge____> hi, can anyone help me?, im trying to modprobe -r bluetooth but it says it is in use, what should i do?
[08:07] <farous> jorge____: lsmod |grep bluetooth
[08:07] <farous> see what is using it
[08:08] <jorge____> farous: ok, thank you i'll do it
[08:08] <DaSkreech> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:09] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Can You check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20125 for me?
[08:10] <jorge____> bluetooth       49892 3 l2cap
[08:10] <jorge____> sudo modprobe -r l2cap ; FATAL: Module l2cap is in use
[08:10] <jorge____> sudo lsmod | grep l2cap
[08:10] <jorge____> l2cap    26244 2
[08:11] <farous> jorge____: do not remove modules that you do not know what they do
[08:11] <jorge____> bluetooth   49892 3 l2cap
[08:11] <farous> you have to do a little bit of research
[08:11] <Shinzetsu>  I see an icon with a lock next to it, how do I unlock that?
[08:11] <jorge____> farous : ok thanks, lol
[08:11] <farous> jorge____: is there a specific reason you want to remove it
[08:11] <farous> normally people are looking for modules not are trying to remove them
[08:12] <steveire> Shinzetsu: sudo chmod 755 file I guess. could be 777 depends on the file and what you want to do.
[08:14] <farous> lol i have matlab for linux but it only runs on kernel 2.4 :(
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> steveire: tried 755 and 777 and its still locked
[08:14] <draik> Has anyone ever heard of or seen someone put a computer inside of a car on the dash that had Linux and it controlled a few things (car-related)?
[08:14] <Shinzetsu> wait nevemrind
[08:14] <steveire> what do you get for that file when you ls -al in that directory?
[08:14] <trappist> draik: I saw it on tv once.  it was in a black trans-am I think.
[08:15] <steveire> Shinzetsu: Why never mind?
[08:15] <trappist> Shinzetsu: don't do 777.
[08:15] <draik> trappist, that is my dream car... Knight Rider... KITT (Knight Industries Two Thousand)... and it was on sale for $80,000 USD for the original
[08:15] <Shinzetsu> 1 sec
[08:15] <natan-> i can't telnet out of port 6000, can anyone give me any ideas why?
[08:15] <trappist> draik: a bargain!
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> i try to add a cd drive in wine, i hit apply and ok and when I check the folder I see it with a lock next to it, and when I go back to winecfg its gone
[08:16] <draik> trappist, I'm accepting donations!!!!
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> natan-: closed?
[08:18] <tobberoth> Anyone who can help me with the following fdisk error? "Warning: invalid flag 0x6d42 of partition table 7 will be corrected by w(rite)"
[08:18] <Shinzetsu> steveire, trappist: i try to add a cd drive in wine, i hit apply and ok and when I check the folder I see it with a lock next to it, and when I go back to winecfg its gone
[08:19] <steveire> I don't know Shinzetsu. I've never used wine
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> steveire: hm ok
[08:19] <Shinzetsu> maybe ill just have to reinstall it
[08:20] <farous> Shinzetsu: how did you add the cdrom
[08:20] <Shinzetsu> farous: using winecfg
[08:20] <Shinzetsu> farous: ill just reinstall
[08:20] <farous> Shinzetsu: do it manually go to your .wine dir
[08:20] <farous> cd dosdevices
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Looks like its not working - hmmm (I have used it before but only with debian unstable) - Unfortunately I don't have a box with any varient of ubuntu on it at the moment (waiting for a new harddisk to arrive)
[08:32] <rosh1182> how do you get ivman running in kubuntu
[08:34] <DaSkreech> draik: I did It was called route 66  I think
[08:35] <draik> huh?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> The Car with Linux in the dasjboard controlling the stuff
[08:38] <draik> DaSkreech, URL?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> *shrugs* That was years ago it's probably down now
[08:39] <syke> hi
[08:39] <syke> I'm having some trouble running adept after a recent upgrade:
[08:39] <syke> adept: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:40] <syke> I've tried manually re-installing dpkg, dselect, apt, etc
[08:40] <syke> still no dice
[08:40] <syke> any ideas?
[08:40] <Truemmel> hi
[08:40] <DaSkreech> tried reinstalling the package?
[08:40] <syke> yes. I get this error:
[08:40] <syke>  adept depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11; however:
[08:40] <syke>   Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 is not installed.
[08:41] <Truemmel> which irc client do you use
[08:41] <Truemmel> ?
[08:41] <syke> uh
[08:41] <syke> Konversation
[08:41] <syke> why?
[08:41] <Truemmel> which is best/easiest. thanks
[08:41] <Ademan_> yuck, konversation
[08:42] <Truemmel> me too. first time
[08:43] <Ademan_> hey does anyone know why clicking on evolution links doesnt open up a browser at that address? is it a problem with gnome's equivalent of the klauncher?
[08:43] <Johncro13> captain's log: day 4 of chatroom help request.
[08:43] <harmental> konversation is quite easy....ive tried mirc for windows really cool but dont know if there is a linux version....
[08:43] <Ademan_> i think mirc is the worst of the IRC clients
[08:43] <Ademan_> Xchat is my favorite
[08:44] <Truemmel> konversation seems good. mirc is a mess (complicated)
[08:44] <ubuntu> Hi! I want to use kubuntu in russian since I try to learn this language. So I chose that language in the installer, but when I run the Live CD, the installation is still in english. So what do I have to do to run it in Russian?
[08:45] <Johncro13> about to pose question for what seems to be the 10th time.  we are hopeful that a simple and swift answer may appear this time around, but we remain prepared for the worst...
[08:45] <Ademan_> ubuntu: are you using the install disk or the livecd installer?
[08:45] <sigg3> trying to install something and get this message:
[08:45] <sigg3> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[08:45] <sigg3> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[08:45] <ubuntu> the live CD
[08:46] <sigg3> says I need GTK+ 2.6 but I've got 2.8 already:)
[08:46] <ubuntu> I m not installing it, just run the live cd in live mode
[08:46] <Truemmel> is ther a way to permanently change the wifi mac adress ?
[08:46] <Johncro13> hi, everyone, I'm having a simple problem with WPA_Supplicant.  is there anyone here who might be able to help?
[08:47] <Truemmel> something like ifconfig hw ether x:x:x, but permanent
[08:47] <Ademan> ubuntu: if you choose russian, kubuntu will be in russian AFTER your install.  But also, in my opinion gnome is more cross-language than kde
[08:47] <Bazzi> Johncro13: might be, if you ask the actual question
[08:47] <Johncro13> thankyou, Bazzi.
[08:49] <Johncro13> when I try to get wpa supplicant up and running as per numerous howto guides, I get a dependancy error stating that libc6 needs to be configured.
[08:49] <ubuntu> aha. so there is not much I can do. downloading a whole CD (getting ubuntu) here in Russia is quite expensive. I pay per megabyte, no flat rate.
[08:49] <Truemmel> is there a way to permanently change the wifi mac adress ? rt2500 device
[08:49] <BluesKaj> I'm looking for a source for Azureus with the all the dependencies included ...the tar.bz2 file doesn't have them
[08:49] <Bazzi> Johncro13: a-ha can you paste the exact message you get?
[08:49] <BluesKaj> !azureus
[08:49] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:50] <Johncro13> sorry, wish I could, but I'm dual-booting and am only able to get online in XP.
[08:50] <Bazzi> hmmm
[08:50] <Bazzi> BluesKaj: you mean SWT?
[08:51] <Johncro13> I can tell you, however, that there is no error code.  It just stated that libc6 needs to be configured.
[08:51] <sigg3> anyone have any tips?
[08:51] <anil> i just enabled multiverse but there's no w32codecs
[08:52] <Bazzi> Johncro13: cannot help you easily with that. maybe a dpkg -r libc6 fixes it, and/or try an aptitude install libc6-dev maybe the headers are just missing
[08:52] <Johncro13> if I knew what command to run to do just that, I think I'd be sailing smoothly by now.
[08:52] <AndyGee> hello
[08:52] <Johncro13> that is possible, bazzi
[08:52] <Bazzi> best bet is to try those two and come back if it fails..
[08:53] <Johncro13> however, since all my repos are on the web, would aptitude not work?
[08:53] <AndyGee> i cant get mp3's to play on this is there a problem?? im sorry but in new to this
[08:53] <steveire> !mp3
[08:53] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.24 paused
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <Bazzi> Johncro13: don't you have the CD ready?
[08:54] <AndyGee> ah thanks
[08:54] <Bazzi> should be on it
[08:54] <Johncro13> I do. but I didn't see a reference to the cd on sources.list
[08:54] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i got a question, does anybodyk now of a program called LKL???
[08:54] <Johncro13> does that not matter?
[08:55] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i got a question, does anybodyk now of a program called LKL???
[08:56] <Truemmel> how do i change channels in konversation?
[08:56] <Bazzi> Johncro13: there should be a reference to it though :(
[08:56] <ubuntu> LKL is a userspace keylogger that runs under Linux on the x86 architechture. LKL sniffs and logs everything that passes through the hardware keyboard port
[08:56] <ubuntu> that was directed at Midspeed
[08:56] <ubuntu> it was among the first five results google gave me
[08:56] <Johncro13> LKL is a keylogger.
[08:56] <Midspeed> thanks ubuntu, now can you please tell me if you know how to configure it
[08:56] <Johncro13> http://www.google.com/search?hs=dTD&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=%22LKL%22+linux&btnG=Search
[08:56] <Midspeed> or how to get it to work
[08:57] <mightypea> i just ran a search mate, sorry. i'd never heard of it in my life
[08:57] <Johncro13> Bazzi, I appreciate your help.  I will reboot and try now.
[08:57] <Midspeed> does anybody here know how to run it or configure it, or make it work?
[08:58] <BluesKaj> Bazzi, what's SWT ?
[08:58] <Johncro13> midspeed, I don't think that this is the appropriate chat room for third-party linux programs like that.
[08:58] <Johncro13> sorry.
[08:58] <BluesKaj> !SWT
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about SWT - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:59] <mightypea> Is there anyone around that would care to help a complete beginner get wine installed? i tried adding the universe and official winehq reps, but get an error on both
[08:59] <rosh1182> where are the kernel config files located?
[08:59] <Johncro13> surely LKL must have its own website and chat rooms.
[08:59] <Johncro13> mightypea, I might be able to help.
[08:59] <mightypea> all the results i get upon searching for wine (in synaptic) are the dummies
[08:59] <Johncro13> are you using dapper repos?
[09:00] <mightypea> yes
[09:00] <rosh1182> the ubuntu wiki says in a debian/ARCH directory, but I am not sure where the debian directory is
[09:00] <Bazzi> BluesKaj: "The" dependency of Azureus.
[09:00] <mightypea> is it maybe because synaptic isn't listed under the kde suite in adept? is it compatible with kde?
[09:00] <BluesKaj> ok , where do I find them , Bazzi ?
[09:01] <Johncro13> mightypea, follow these instructions: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
[09:01] <Midspeed> sorry for bothering johncro13, but thanks anyways, i found what i was looking for in some forum
[09:01] <Midspeed> bye everyone
[09:01] <Bazzi> BluesKaj: what do you want to do with Azureus? build yourself from source?
[09:01] <mightypea> I have, and i can't get beyond the first step, because it wont recognise the reps, or at least it states (upon reloading) that it cant find anything
[09:02] <Johncro13> hmmm....
[09:02] <mightypea> and i checked the number of avaiable packages in the bottom left corner, and this stays the same
[09:02] <Johncro13> can you open synaptic now?
[09:02] <excitatory> i'm having strange dpkg errors when attempting to install anything.  Here is an excerpt of the error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20136
[09:02] <mightypea> will do (it's reinstalling)
[09:03] <Johncro13> and you refresh every time you go in to manage repos?
[09:03] <mightypea> i'm there, and i'll try these steps again
[09:03] <mightypea> yup
[09:03] <Johncro13> okie dokey.
[09:03] <Johncro13> goodbye, all.
[09:03] <excitatory> later
[09:04] <ubuntu___> hey guys anyone using a mac with kubuntu?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> just install ,, I dL'd azureus from their site tar.bz2 file and installed or thought I did using the tar xvjf cmd but when i checked in synaptic it wasn't installed , so I tried to from there and i came with missing dependencies
[09:04] <mightypea> i just get "Could not download all repository indexes" on reloading
[09:05] <mightypea> "http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found"
[09:05] <mightypea> might it be because of my 64bit kubuntu?
[09:05] <ubuntu> I just asked a question about using kubuntu in live mode in russian, which did not work after choosing that language at boot time. I was told it would only work after installing (which I don t want to do). Well, it works fine with French. So there seems to be a PROBLEM with the Russian version.
[09:06] <BluesKaj> is there an Azureus/java source I can add to the sources list and thereby get it thru adept or synaptic with all the dependencies bundled in
[09:07] <jkeel> ubuntu___: I am using a Mac
[09:07] <ubuntu___> im using a mac and installed kubuntu, boot yaboot wouldnt boot kubuntu
[09:07] <ubuntu___> how can I get it to boot so I can fix yaboot.conf?
[09:08] <ubuntu___> im using the live cd right now
[09:08] <nalioth> ubuntu___: at the chime, hold the alt-option key and click on tux
[09:08] <jkeel> ubuntu___: hmm. Any error msgs about why yaboot wouldn't boot?
[09:08] <jkeel> nalioth: what does the alt key do?
[09:09] <excitatory> strange dpkg error that has me quite puzzled: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20136
[09:09] <nalioth> jkeel: macs do not boot like PCs do.  holding the alt-option key on a mac right after the chime will show you all bootable items and allow you to choose one
[09:09] <Argail> Hello all
[09:09] <excitatory> lo
[09:09] <Argail> I have kubuntu about 24 hours installed and i am trying to make my webcam to work on kopete
[09:09] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: FYI just in case you wanted to know and didn't: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:09] <ubuntu___> no the screen just goes grey
[09:10] <Argail> it is a Logitech Webcam Chat model
[09:10] <Argail> I can see it working on settings->devices and it has a better image than on my windows,but i dont have an option on my menus to show it to my friends,any ideas?
[09:10] <nalioth> ubuntu___: give it a minute or two
[09:10] <ubuntu___> yaboot is there but pressing l for linux wont
[09:10] <ubuntu___> I think the partition is setup wrong
[09:11] <ubuntu___> in yaboot.conf
[09:11] <excitatory> Argail: #kopete is probably the best place to ask, but perhaps someone can help here..
[09:11] <ubuntu___> I was hoping I could fix it from the live cd
[09:11] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: Oh, i didn't know that, that at least gets rid of the flash problem :D
[09:11] <mightypea> cheers
[09:11] <Argail> oh sorry,didnt new there are other rooms,as i said i have Kubuntu(and linux in general)for about 24 hours now :)
[09:12] <Ireclan> How much should I know about working from the command line?
[09:12] <mightypea> i think i'll give automatix a go though, that seems to work on 64, AND installs java
[09:12] <nalioth> mightypea: i'd be careful doing that
[09:13] <mightypea> Is there much that can go wrong?
[09:13] <nalioth> !tell mightypea about restricted
[09:13] <nalioth> mightypea: it can break your box
[09:13] <alkali> Hey all, I know I'm missing something minor but I transferred music non-root through konqueror and set it in my home folder but trying to play it gives me nothing.  Just skips all the songs.  Will adding users to my fstab for windows do it right?
[09:13] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: don't use automatrix unless you want to spend time fixing things
[09:13] <Agios> alkali: missing codecs?
[09:13] <nalioth> ubuntu___: yes, it is possible to edit the yaboot.conf from the liveCD
[09:13] <ubuntu___> cool
[09:14] <alkali> Agios: you're a genius.  I forgot mp3 format wasn't standard
[09:14] <mightypea> ah, thanks again, guys. It just came up when i ran a search on the ubuntuforums, using the error message synaptic gives me (concerning wine)
[09:14] <Agios> nah, happened to me too :)
[09:14] <mightypea> wow, what a sentence, heh
[09:14] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: if you want your media player to play mp3 etc using the codecs then that also needs to be installed as a 32 bit version too
[09:14] <ubuntu___> when I click on storage media menu it wont let me mount any of my drives
[09:14] <ubuntu___> brb
[09:14] <alkali> Agios: What package did you get?
[09:15] <mightypea> didn't canonical get a license to include mp3 though? i was surprised it didn't work out of the box
[09:15] <Agios> I don't remember now.
[09:15] <mightypea> I'm quite sure i read something about it on osnews
[09:15] <alkali> Its all good I'll search for it
[09:15] <alkali> thanks, that would have driven me crazy with permissions :)
[09:15] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I use amaroK xine engine & libxine-extracodecs for mp3 etc
[09:15] <Agios> np
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: also installed w32codecs for good measure too :-)
[09:17] <mightypea> hang on, are you saying there's a way to play mp3's out of the box using a different rendering engine?
[09:17] <mightypea> i should probably mention i just started using kubuntu today-ish
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: not 'out of the box' had to install the codecs
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs > mightypea
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:19] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodec > mightypea
[09:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodec  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:19] <Chris7mas> !libxine-extracodecs
[09:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:20] <mightypea> let's google :D
[09:21] <mightypea> hahaha. automatix installs it. Is there actually something automatix can do to fry my machine, or rather only linux?
[09:21] <mightypea> Since my install is an hour old, that wouldn't be too much of an issue. And as for the dodgyness behind the codecs, cant you opt not to install these?
[09:22] <coachj> which driver should I use to get 3d with the ATI Radon 9000 PRO?
[09:23] <alkali> One more question before a kernel compile.  I always feel that even though I choose Pentium 4 in the xconfig panel when I make the kernel it always has i386 in the name.  Is it compiling right?
[09:23] <alkali> coachj: what kernel are you running?
[09:23] <mightypea> you guys are heroes for wanting to tackle all these questions, btw
[09:24] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I don't use automatrix so no idea, all I know is that it causes problems, and people come in here asking for answers, prefer to install one bit at a time so I know what is going on
[09:24] <coachj> 2.6.15-386
[09:25] <mightypea> A sensible approach, i guess. Especially if you plan to get up to speed with your os, rather than take the easy way
[09:25] <KrAsE> Why in kubuntu I can't launch the graphical app's from command line?
[09:25] <alkali> coachcoacoachj I recommmend using the ati drivers from the website from personal experience and following the guide in the wiki.  Or if you're less brave go the .deb with fglrx which has a walkthrough also.
[09:25] <alkali> wow, didn't mean for that to happen
[09:25] <KrAsE> always appear can't open display or similar
[09:26] <mightypea> I just found a script by kilz as a possible solution for my problem (it's to do with my 64bit kubuntu, it seems), is that a common source of problems?
[09:26] <coachj> alkai:you mean the ubuntu wiki
[09:26] <alkali> coachj: yes
[09:26] <alkali> I can link it if you need me to
[09:27] <coachj> alkali:the ATI site?
[09:27] <coachj> yes please
[09:27] <alkali> coachj: only get the drivers from the ati site.  download I think the 8.27 version.  I'll grab the link for the wiki walkthrough
[09:28] <KrAsE> in debian for example I haven't never problems whit this...
[09:28] <KrAsE> :)
[09:28] <coachj> thank you
[09:29] <alkali> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:29] <coachj> thaks again
[09:29] <alkali> not a problem
[09:29] <obf213> anyone know how to make a simple program in C using kdevelop
[09:30] <alkali> Does anyone know if you choose the type of processor in xconfig if it compiles it for that Arch specifically?  Like the entire kernel built for p4?
[09:33] <alkali> I could trial and error it :)
[09:35] <Ireclan> So, how much should I know about using the command line?
[09:38] <trappist> Ireclan: the more the better
[09:39] <trappist> alexicon: yes
[09:40] <Ireclan> Any good tutorials on using the command line?
[09:41] <Sanne> Ireclan: did you see this? Next up is the command line: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[09:42] <KrAsE> ireclan: what is your level of command line?
[09:43] <Ireclan> I only know about 90% of what the Kubuntu Desktop Guide says.
[09:45] <brandon_> anybody play enemy territory?
[09:45] <KrAsE> I start wiht bash on www.tuxfiles.org, very good
[09:45] <KrAsE> for start
[09:45] <Ireclan> Specifically, I know "ls", "mkdir", and "cd".
[09:46] <Ireclan> But that's all I know for sure.
[09:46] <natan-> where is the x11 setup for disabling port 6000
[09:47] <KrAsE> see tuxfiles
[09:47] <draik> Ireclan, here is a link for linux commands http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[09:48] <fdoving> natan-: in kdmrc, if you use KDM. that would be /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, search for -tcp.
[09:51] <ben> hey all, I'm having some problems with Openoffice and printing. Here's the problem : When i look in System Settings > Printers all printers just show up nicely. When I try to print from a KDE app it also works. Only Openoffice is giving me some problems since the printers don't show up there. Openoffice only lists the Generic printer
[09:53] <excitatory> argh.. every time kde mounts a data cd, i can't ever get it to umount or eject.. it always says the device is busy..but as far as i can tell, nothing is using it?  maybe a lost kio-slave?
[09:56] <ben> excitatory, you could have a look at the process table and see which processes are trying to access your cd. Make sure they are killed before you try to unmount the cd
[09:56] <Blissex> also use 'lsof' to check that.
[09:58] <Ireclan> Thankyou, KrAsE.
[09:59] <rosh1182> does anyone know how to properly set up ivman in kubuntu?
[10:00] <korgans> no so8nd in wolfensten :(
[10:00] <korgans> sound *
[10:01] <Argail> is there something similar to the windows task manager on kubuntu?and how do i start it?
[10:01] <korgans> Why my sound dont work it does on linux kde based game
[10:01] <rosh1182> Argail: ctrl+escape
[10:01] <korgans> system
[10:01] <korgans> kde system gaurd
[10:01] <Sanne> korgans: you may have to disable the kde sound server
[10:02] <korgans> how ?
[10:02] <TheHighChild> korgans: There is a workaround. I'll get a link for you, one sec
[10:02] <korgans> ok thx
[10:02] <Argail> rosh1182: thnx
[10:04] <TheHighChild> korgans: On this page, there are two echo commands. This is a teamspeak forum but the commands to run worked for me, you can try them out if you want/ http://forum.goteamspeak.com/archive/index.php/t-5844.html
[10:04] <korgans> ok ;)
[10:04] <Sanne> korgans: I would still forst try to sidable the sound server, under Multimedia in kontrol center.
[10:05] <Sanne> *first try to disable*
[10:05] <rosh1182> does anyone know how to launch an X application based on a hal event
[10:06] <coachj> Krase: The Ati drivers at the ATI site are RPM can I use them?
[10:07] <narvik86> they are not rmp IMO
[10:07] <korgans> do it but say  spermission denied and when i try su wont work either when i enter password
[10:07] <anil> ok how the hell do i get direct rendering working using fglrx?
[10:07] <trappist> !ati > anil
[10:07] <anil> i followed that
[10:07] <korgans> what the kde sound server name
[10:08] <coachj> narvik86: what does that mean
[10:08] <Sanne> korgans: arts
[10:08] <narvik86> !ati > coachj
[10:08] <anil> doesn't give me direct rendering
[10:08] <narvik86> follow this guide
[10:08] <Sanne> korgans: if arts is running, the sound device may be blocked for programs that *don't* use the sound server, but want to access the sound device directly.
[10:09] <korgans> tried dotn work
[10:09] <korgans> And tried the work around and Su command dont work
[10:09] <korgans> Cannot enter super user mode
[10:10] <korgans> say my pasword wrong when its the right one
[10:10] <excitatory> how can i set the tree view in konqueror to be the global default, unless otherwise specified..
[10:11] <coachj> narvik86:that is how I got to the ROM drivers, I do not see .deb drivers
[10:11] <TheHighChild> korgans: type 'sudo -i' that will put you into a root session
[10:11] <korgans> ok thx
[10:11] <yeti> hi, i installed ubuntu on a reiserfs partition. after rebooting, grub says filesystem type unknown, could not mount. why? does the ubuntu-distributed grub not support reiserfs? if so, why could i chose to install on reiser in the first place?
[10:12] <TheHighChild> korgans: In case you didn't know, you can copy with ctrl + c out of an application and paste into the konsole with shift + insert
[10:12] <narvik86> coachj: what do you mean ROM, it is binnary file from ati site
[10:12] <coachj> RPM
[10:12] <anil> it still uses mesa
[10:12] <korgans> thx
[10:12] <narvik86> coachj: show me link
[10:13] <coachj> narvik86:https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[10:14] <TheHighChild> korgans: Just an FYI, my buddies made a new ET Mod called No Quarter, you can find it on our server here <IP_ADDRESS>:27960
[10:14] <korgans> ok ;)
[10:15] <narvik86> coachj: where is rpm?
[10:15] <narvik86> :)
[10:15] <coachj> click on link, file is rpm according to conquorer
[10:16] <coachj> let me try using firefox
[10:16] <coachj> same files are RPM
[10:17] <korgans> now my wolf et say can load open gl
[10:17] <korgans> dont work anymore
[10:17] <korgans> lol
[10:17] <korgans> il try rebooting
[10:17] <TheHighChild> no
[10:17] <TheHighChild> wait
[10:17] <korgans> ok
[10:18] <TheHighChild> korgans: That error should also say 'try appending + blah blah blah' to the command line. Look for that, and paste it onto the command line. It will start
[10:18] <kickass331> could I have some help plz
[10:18] <korgans> Error couldn't open the X display
[10:18] <TheHighChild> kickass331: Dunno if I can help or not, what is your problem/.
[10:18] <korgans> ys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[10:19] <SpAwN> TheHighChild, what kinda mod is it?
[10:19] <kickass331> what packages do i need to get for these .o files?
[10:19] <coachj> narvik86: im right arn't I
[10:19] <narvik86> coachj: maybe am i blind :) i clicked your link, picked up linux display drivers, radeon 8500 series and higher (linux x86)
[10:19] <TheHighChild> SpAwN: It's new weapons and the such
[10:19] <SpAwN> TheHighChild, nice man ill defiantly have to check it out
[10:19] <SpAwN> ets my fav game ever
[10:19] <coachj> click on it and it show RPM
[10:20] <korgans> still dont work now my game seems broken lol
[10:20] <Sanne> kickass331: depends on the .O file :) What do you try to do, and what is the error message (if any)?
[10:20] <excitatory> how can i set the tree view in konqueror to be the global default, unless otherwise specified..
[10:21] <coachj> natvik86:click on it and it show RPM
[10:21] <TheHighChild> korgans: one minute, i am looking for something
[10:21] <korgans> ok
[10:21] <TheHighChild> korgans: First of all, do you have video drivers installed?
[10:22] <narvik86> coachj: ahhh, but i was talking about drivers for both xfree and xorg, this is above those 2 xfree.... rpm  and x.org....rpm
[10:22] <kickass331> libICE.so.6 ; libSM.so.6 ;libX11.so.6 ; libXext.so.6 ; libXpm.so.4 ; libXt.so.6 ; libatk-1.0.so.0 ; libc.so.6 ; libcairo.so.2 ; libdl.so.2 ; libgcc_s.so.1 ; libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 ; libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0; libglib-2.0.so.0
[10:22] <kickass331> more than that
[10:22] <korgans> my game was working fine with no sound 30 minute ago until i mess with the work around
[10:22] <korgans> my driver are installed yes
[10:22] <mightypea> I have run into a problem trying to install wine, following these instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557&highlight=wine+amd64
[10:22] <Sanne> kickass331: what command generates those messages?
[10:22] <kickass331> libgmodule-2.0.so.0 libgobject-2.0.so.0 libgthread-2.0.so.0
[10:22] <korgans> Was running better thn the windows version
[10:23] <coachj> narvik86: I thought that was the installer, not a driver
[10:23] <mightypea> where it says i should type./setup it doesn't recognise the cmd
[10:23] <kickass331> I'm trying to use the RPM for Mplayer-plugin
[10:23] <crimsun> why not use mozilla-mplayer in multiverse?
[10:23] <kickass331> I have GCC
[10:23] <mightypea> allthought the file setup does reside inside of this directory
[10:23] <Sanne> kickass331: please say my name so my chat client notifies me
[10:23] <fdoving> kickass331: use the search for files utility at http://packages.ubuntu.com to find the package names for each file.
[10:24] <Sanne> kickass331: listen to fdoving :)
[10:24] <TheHighChild> korgans:paste 'et +set r_allowSoftwareGL 1' into the konsole
[10:24] <narvik86> coachj: those files are also drivers IMO, but you have to choose between x.org and xfree, file .run has got both versions, and it is not rpm
[10:24] <mightypea> oh, i fixed it
[10:24] <fdoving> kickass331: is this the mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[10:25] <vranikx> hello all :D
[10:25] <coachj> not sure I understand, but ok. Why is so complicated to get 3d
[10:25] <narvik86> vranikx: hi
[10:25] <vranikx> :)
[10:25] <kosh> because the companies try and keep everything secret
[10:25] <vranikx> hello narvik86
[10:25] <kickass331> what
[10:25] <kickass331> I don't know what you're talking about
[10:25] <kosh> actually older ati cards and some other cards have 3d automatically since they are supported by open drivers
[10:26] <Sanne> coachj: because most 3D card manufacturers don't release free drivers that Ubuntu could legally include.
[10:26] <kickass331> MPlayerplug-in is mozilla exclusive
[10:26] <mightypea> how does one install the nvidia drivers?
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> !nvidia
[10:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <kickass331> I have the latest installed
[10:26] <kickass331> :P
[10:26] <mightypea> cheers!
[10:26] <narvik86> coachj: wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide here is guide that was good for me, method I
[10:26] <kickass331> yeah
[10:26] <kickass331> I run 3d stuff
[10:26] <kickass331> :D
[10:26] <kickass331> screensavers work too
[10:26] <kickass331> :D
[10:26] <coachj> ok
[10:27] <TheHighChild> Did that work for you Korgans?
[10:27] <fdoving> kickass331: using rpms on kubuntu is not advisable at all. You should seek to use the packages from the archives.
[10:27] <kickass331> but I already compiled mplayer-plugin and put the so and xpt files in my firefox
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> Hi !
[10:27] <vranikx> does anybody knows where will be kde4?
[10:27] <narvik86> |lostbyte|: hi
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> Guys, which filesystem do you have your linux installed on ?
[10:27] <vranikx> hello
[10:27] <narvik86> in the future :)
[10:27] <TheHighChild> ext3
[10:27] <vranikx> ext3
[10:27] <fdoving> vranikx: when it's done :)
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> narvik86, hi !
[10:28] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: ext3.
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: reiser3 - but
[10:28] <vranikx> narvik86: lol
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Some people think its a bad idea
[10:28] <korgans> say command not found
[10:28] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, thats what, i want to know why ?
[10:28] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: I have ext3
[10:28] <narvik86> vranikx: what lol?
[10:28] <fdoving> |lostbyte|: i can recommend ext3 and xfs. reiser is not my fav. as i've lost some data with it.
[10:28] <aliasfred> q. is it just me or freenode got issue tonite ? like i cant connect or it takes much longer than usual
[10:29] <vranikx> narvik86: what you said about kde4
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, why did you choose reiser over ext3 ?
[10:29] <korgans> ill try a reboot
[10:29] <korgans> thx
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Apparantly it is easy for it to lose data in the event of a crash or power outage - however I haven't had any problems with it and the performance is a bit better
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, Will note it.
[10:29] <roland17> oups i'm french ! it's possible in french??
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, How much better ?
[10:29] <aliasfred> !fr
[10:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:30] <kickass331> help!
[10:30] <mightypea> err, if you apply changes to a live-cd, does it actually remember those changes when you install? no, right?
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, Before you formated to it, what made you do it ?
[10:30] <roland17> thank you
[10:30] <TheHighChild> mightypea: no, everything is lost after reboot with Live CD
[10:30] <kickass331> I already compiled mplayerplug-in from the tar.gz and put the so and xpt files in my mozilla directories like it said
[10:30] <kickass331> but in firefox it says it wants to download a plugin
[10:30] <korgans> restarting the x server solved my game not running still no soun thought
[10:31] <mightypea> nono, i meant if it applies the changes you make IN the livecd, to the install when you click the icon on your desktop
[10:31] <mightypea> it just does a standard install regardless of what you do, i take it?
[10:31] <kickass331> live cds are not writable
[10:31] <kickass331> it's basic knowledge
[10:31] <korgans> Woot working now thx
[10:32] <korgans> :d
[10:32] <vranikx> korgans: what game? windows played in wine? or normally linux game?
[10:32] <kickass331> HELP!
[10:32] <|lostbyte|> fdoving, Any thing i have to keep in mind when formating to ext3 like special parameters you use, for its effective use ?
[10:33] <mightypea> it's basic knowledge, yes, but you fail to understand what i asked. In kubuntu you can click an install-button on your dekstop, and i wondered wether anything done in the live-cd actually made a difference as to how kubuntu was installed, For instance, changing your background: is the new one kept in the install?
[10:33] <TheHighChild> vranikx: Enemy Territory on Tux
[10:33] <mightypea> it;s not a terribly urgent question, i just hate being misunderstood :)
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: I just thought if its good enough to be the default filesystem for suse enterprise linux - then it will probably be ok for me and faster (I read some articles about it) - anything important I have is backed up to a freebsd machine anyway
[10:33] <trappist> kickass331: once you call the answer to somebody's question "basic knowledge", I think you forfeit the privilege of getting free support yourself.
[10:34] <Hawkwind> kickass331: There are writable live CD's actually.  Several of them
[10:34] <Hawkwind> trappist: Hah!
[10:34] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, ok, thanks for the info.
[10:34] <vranikx> TheHighChild: hmm ,i tried it a long time ago and it worked with no problem
[10:34] <Hawkwind> trappist: I think I've seen you type that a time or 5 :)
[10:35] <trappist> especially if, as Hawkwind suggests, you're wrong :)
[10:35] <TheHighChild> vranikx: He seems to be up and running now at any rate
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: I also in the past experienced noticably better performance of squid when running from a reiserfs partition
[10:35] <vranikx> TheHighChild  any rate? i dont understand
[10:35] <|lostbyte|> what are the disadvantage of having a complate, 40 GB patition ?
[10:35] <TheHighChild> vranikx: A stupid American expression
[10:36] <vranikx> hehe
[10:36] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: If you don't have a seperate /home partition.......then it makes upgrades much harder and next to impossible
[10:36] <vranikx> btw have also anybody problem like me with superkaramba errors?
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, this is not a linux partion but simply an ext3 partion for Dumping stuff.
[10:37] <vranikx> sometimes superkaramba crashed
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> I have currently linux running on a 20 gb hd in the same pc.
[10:37] <korgans> linux
[10:37] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Ah, then nothing.  I have partitions that are in excess of 160GB or more
[10:37] <korgans> linux game
[10:37] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: I have one that is 450GB alone :)
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, Wow.
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> Your the space man. :)
[10:38] <Hawkwind> I have nearly 700GB in this box itself
[10:38] <vranikx> heh me too
[10:38] <vranikx> :D
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> I think on a really big partition I may be tempted to use 2.6.18-rc(whatever) and XFS
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> :)
[10:39] <|lostbyte|> YOu guys need it, cause you do backup nearly everyday..
[10:39] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I'm using <IP_ADDRESS> currently, and have used ReiserFS for years.  It's the only FS type I'll use
[10:39] <korgans> big partition are not a prob if ya got a swap partition
[10:39] <trappist> me too
[10:39] <korgans> afk thx guy
[10:39] <vranikx> btw know somebody if is call of duty 2 playable in linux?
[10:39] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, 3 reasone why you use Reiser over ext3 ?
[10:39] <trappist> big partitions aren't a problem with or without swap
[10:40] <Hawkwind> korgans: Swap doesn't really matter.  I have 2GB of RAM and 512MB of swap and it never gets touched, ever
[10:40] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Quicker, seems more reliable, and just something I've used for years
[10:40] <trappist> |lostbyte|: it uses my disk space very efficiently
[10:40] <trappist> you don't lose a whole block to store a 1-byte file
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> ok
[10:41] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Unfortunately, every FS has it's disadvantages, no matter how big/small they maybe they all have some
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: XFS performs better than reiser (if you are using it for alot of big files) - but its stability could be a problem
[10:41] <trappist> it's also quite fast
[10:41] <mightypea> how do you enable restricted copyright things in synaptic? This article mentions doing so in the repositories menu, but i see no option for it there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:41] <trappist> h3sp4wn: reiser is faster if you're dealing with a lot of small files :)
[10:41] <|lostbyte|> trappist, ok, i was looking for "reasons" like that.. cool.
[10:41] <kosh> the performance difference is pretty much squat though
[10:42] <Hawkwind> Reiser is super quick with small files.  Not too terribly slow with large files IMO
[10:42] <kosh> dealing with lots of small files and seeing a performance difference requires something like a heavily loaded squid proxy
[10:42] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, ok, then thats a Negative.
[10:42] <mightypea> is this just a case of the article talking about an outdated version of synaptic?
[10:42] <kosh> for a normal desktop system reiserfs will not be faster then xfs, ext3, jfs etc
[10:42] <mightypea> Or perhaps the fact i use kubuntu, rather than ubuntu?
[10:42] <kosh> also I have NEVER seen stability problems with xfs
[10:42] <Argail> any suggestion for mp3 player i shoul use?
[10:42] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, When you say large file do you mean in GB's ?
[10:43] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Yes
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> Argail, amarok
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Definately don't user reiserfs4 (I know people who have lost alot of data to that)
[10:43] <TheHighChild> Argail: amaroK is nice but very beefy
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, humm. ok
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, You know what, its beefy in alsa mode.
[10:43] <Argail> amarok isnt playing mp3's now,do ineed any add ons or codecs?
[10:43] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: I use Xine
[10:44] <TheHighChild> Argail: yes, you'll need to get proprietary codecs and probably the xine engine
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> kosh: I have seen people lose data to XFS (not on Irix though there its rock solid) - 2.6.18 has alot of XFS related fixes
[10:44] <|lostbyte|> Argail, two words, ugly and xine codecs.
[10:44] <kosh> |lostbyte|: actually even in the low GB range there is not much difference, however if you are normally dealing with 10GB to 200GB files then xfs will end up faster
[10:44] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, ok
[10:44] <kosh> h3sp4wn: that seems very strange, I have been using it for years on our database and web servers with no issues ever
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: this is what I would suggest if you where running 32bit: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[10:45] <mightypea> i'm running into repos problems fucking constantly because of my ubuntu 64
[10:45] <kosh> h3sp4wn: and the databases would complain very quickly if they where corrupted
[10:45] <Argail> ok going to get them now
[10:45] <TheHighChild> |lostbyte|: By beefy, I meant it's not a light player like xmms, it's a full music cataloging system
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> kosh, comapring, ext3 reiser and xfs, which on will be good with 1000 MB file ?
[10:45] <Hawkwind> mightypea: Easy on the language please :)
[10:45] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: again, it's giving me an error, telling me it can't find the repos, but it's looking in a dir called amd64
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: that would work for apt-get, adept or synaptic which are just GUI package managers that use apt-get
[10:46] <mightypea> oh, sorry about that Hawkwind
[10:46] <|lostbyte|> TheHighChild, oh, ok. i took that like in BAD, cause i dont like beef :P
[10:46] <Argail> |lostbyte|: i have the amarok-xine where can i find ugly?
[10:46] <kosh> |lostbyte|: no real difference for that size, ext3 and xfs have better recovery tools then reiser does though with ext3 probably having the best fs recovery tools
[10:46] <TheHighChild> Argail: To get mp3 working http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[10:46] <kosh> |lostbyte|: personally I would just go with ext3
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: pastebin your etc/apt/sources.list please
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> kosh, Intresting.
[10:47] <mightypea> i enabled what i needed to though, TheGateKeeper, will your guide make sure it searches in the general directory, rather than amd64?
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> kosh, :)
[10:47] <mightypea> hang on
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> Argail, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[10:47] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: the url will work on a 32bit installation
[10:47] <|lostbyte|> Argail, libxine-extracodecs
[10:48] <mightypea> so not a 64bit one?
[10:48] <kosh> |lostbyte|: basically ext3 is tested more, used more etc then the others so it is a pretty good default choice
[10:48] <kosh> |lostbyte|: jfs and xfs are also good choices
[10:48] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: no not 64bit one
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> kosh, ok.
[10:49] <|lostbyte|> kosh, tx
[10:50] <kosh> |lostbyte|: one thing to think about is that most of the benchmarks are meaningless to what you are going to be doing, you probably won't hit the fs very hard
[10:50] <mightypea> that's what i'm running, and that's why it automatically looks for the amd64 dir on the repos, where there is none
[10:51] <kosh> |lostbyte|: I know I have deal with people that think they have a large database because it has ten thousand records in it and the db is 20MB, that is tiny however
[10:51] <mightypea> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[10:51] <mightypea> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[10:51] <mightypea> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[10:51] <mightypea> ## repository.
[10:51] <mightypea> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[10:51] <mightypea> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[10:51] <mightypea> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[10:51] <|lostbyte|> kosh, :)
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: stop!
[10:51] <mightypea> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[10:51] <mightypea> ## team.
[10:51] <mightypea> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:51] <mightypea> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:51] <kosh> |lostbyte|: a good rule of thumb is that unless you are doing something outside what any normal home user would do then it does not make any differences
[10:51] <|lostbyte|> kosh, benchmarks, do you have it ?
[10:52] <kosh> |lostbyte|: not off the top of my head, you can search google for them since there are a lot
[10:52] <|lostbyte|> kosh, YEah, thats there.
[10:52] <|lostbyte|> kosh, ok.
[10:52] <mightypea> err, you told me to paste it, i'm sorry if that was flooding.
[10:52] <mightypea> it was out of my hands before you said stop though
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: said pastebin!!!
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > mightypea
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: misunderstanding sorry about that
[10:53] <mightypea> ah, that might've been a case of reading what i understood, rather than what i didn't
[10:54] <mightypea> sorry
[10:54] <bactram> fresh install, can't install firefox: adept says "BREAK (install)". How can I install firefox?
[10:54] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: not a problem. :)
[10:55] <fdoving> mightypea: just use pastebin next time,everyone make mistakes. :)
[10:55] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20148 . sorry again, i should've read the title more closely
[10:55] <mightypea> brilliant concept though, that ;)
[10:55] <fdoving> nite all, work early, need some sleep.
[10:55] <Argail> |lostbyte|: libxine-extracodecs gets me this :Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:56] <[GuS] > Argail, you need to enable Multiverse repo.
[10:56] <Argail> [GuS] : i have enabled all the repos
[10:56] <[GuS] > if apt says that, then your are not
[10:57] <[GuS] > sorry
[10:57] <[GuS] > deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: yours is a 64bit install?
[10:57] <[GuS] > you need that one
[10:57] <Argail> let me see if it is in
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: night
[10:57] <ramonet69> hola
[10:57] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: indeed
[10:58] <Argail> its not on the source.list let me add it
[10:58] <[GuS] > Argail, you see? :)
[10:58] <Argail> i thought it had to be by default there afte3r installation :)
[10:58] <[GuS] > nop
[10:58] <[GuS] > is not
[10:59] <Argail> are there any other crucial repos i have to add there?
[10:59] <[GuS] > mm nope
[11:00] <bactram> I'm having trouble installing firefox
[11:00] <bactram> this is a fresh install
[11:00] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: is there a way i can force synaptic to search for the 32bit version?
[11:00] <Argail> what is the shortcut to open konsole?
[11:00] <korgans> do it from Adept
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: damn not what I was expecting, now I am curious as to how it knows whether to fetch a 32bit or 64bit pacakage
[11:00] <bactram> but adept says "BREAK (install)"
[11:00] <narvik86> bactram: you can download ir from www and run
[11:00] <korgans> ah its cos of ya reposery
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: hang on...
[11:00] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: it's done so for every repos i've added, including non-kubuntu ones like winehq
[11:00] <[GuS] > Argail, you could launch the launcher by pressign alt + f
[11:00] <korgans> had teh same prob yesterdAY
[11:01] <[GuS] > and type konsole
[11:01] <[GuS] > f2 i mean
[11:01] <[GuS] > alt + f2
[11:01] <bactram> narvik86: but I can't install via apt?
[11:01] <Argail> i do this,any quicker shortcut?
[11:01] <korgans> hey bactram ill send ya my source list
[11:01] <[GuS] > you could set yourselft in systemsettings :)
[11:01] <korgans> shoudl fix ya prob\
[11:02] <narvik86> bactram: it shoul be possible, maybe try sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:02] <bactram> korgans: thanks
[11:02] <Argail> [GuS] : for libxine same thing
[11:02] <[GuS] > ehm?
[11:02] <[GuS] > you have done sudo apt-get update after add the line Argail ?
[11:02] <korgans> Let em remember where is it
[11:02] <bactram> apt-get install firefox says that libatk1.0-1 is not installable
[11:02] <Argail> yes
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I would imagine so, search in synaptic for: ia32-libs tell me if it is listed
[11:03] <narvik86> bactram: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:03] <[GuS] > then is impossible... you must doing something wrong
[11:03] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[11:04] <coachj> narvik86: you still here?
[11:04] <Argail> no ,let me check my source list for spelling
[11:04] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: it is, it says i have 1.4ubuntu20 installed
[11:04] <narvik86> coachj: yes. it works?
[11:04] <mightypea> err, 19
[11:05] <coachj> narvik86: here is the out after going thru the install and checking to see if it worked
[11:05] <coachj> fglrxinfo
[11:05] <coachj> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:05] <coachj> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[11:05] <coachj> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:05] <coachj> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[11:05] <coachj> jeff@KubuntuMachine:~$ display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:05] <narvik86> coachj: :/ cant be mesa
[11:05] <coachj> bash: display:: command not found
[11:05] <coachj> jeff@KubuntuMachine:~$ OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[11:06] <coachj> bash: OpenGL: command not found
[11:06] <Smooph> ll
[11:06] <fdoving> !pastebin > coachj
[11:07] <coachj> ok, didnt know how to use
[11:07] <jon_> hey how do i network to a printer on the server? im the other computer on the network.
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: if you look at the url (at the end), you explictly download 32 bit version for firefox, and install it plus various other bits & pieces, the other bit & pieces can be done from synaptic or the cli: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:07] <jon_> the other one is running windows xp if that matters
[11:07] <Argail> ok gus.my mistake again,new guy here,just installed kubuntu yesterday,its downloading now
[11:07] <coachj> narvik86: did that help you dignise my problem?
[11:08] <Argail> [GuS] : everything fine,its playing now,thanks a lot
[11:08] <narvik86> coachj: be right back
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: the PLF repos have non-free stuff I would imagine most of it to be 32bit, no idea if any is 64bit
[11:08] <[GuS] > your welcome :)
[11:09] <jon_>  does anyone know how to network a printer?
[11:10] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: i'm not excactly sure why you're linking me to that though? i'm trying to get nvidia drivers, not flash. i might be misunderstanding you, it's quite late, so it's more than possible
[11:10] <[GuS] > you could share it with samba jon_
[11:10] <Smooph> nvidia drivers for your graphic card ?
[11:10] <mightypea> yup
[11:11] <jon_> thats what im just now reading on help
[11:11] <Smooph> did you install de invidia driver package linked in adept ?
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I was trying to answer your question about installing 64bit stuff & 32bit stuff and using that link as an example
[11:11] <LeeJunFan> jon_: what type of system is the printserver and what type of clients?
[11:12] <mightypea> TheGateKeeper: ah, understood.
[11:12] <Smooph> mightypea: open a konsole with sudo su
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I would imagine if you need to use 32bit nvidia stuff the same pricipal would exist
[11:12] <mightypea> Smooph: i was following a tutorial which said i had to enable unrestricted stuff, and i get an error doing that
[11:13] <Smooph> than type apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:13] <jon_> what does it mean when it says errors were encountered while processing mldonkey server?
[11:13] <korgans> where is the sourcelist for repository mesn the text file
[11:13] <jon_> i was trying to apt-get samba
[11:13] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! sleep well! :)
[11:13] <korgans> need to know to help soemoene
[11:13] <jon_> the printer is on windows xp, im on dapper drake
[11:14] <bactram> narvik86: Thanks for the source-o-matic. firefox is installed and working now.
[11:14] <Smooph> mightypea: plz open adept
[11:14] <mightypea> oh, that seems to be doing it, smooph. The reason i was trying to do it through synaptic is because the guide told me to
[11:14] <korgans> bactram i still need to send ya that file
[11:14] <korgans> cos ya gonna have prob with all package
[11:14] <korgans> if ya dont fix that
[11:14] <Smooph> ok did you install the nvidia-glx
[11:14] <Smooph> ?
[11:14] <mightypea> Smooph: done
[11:14] <mightypea> Smooph: yup
[11:14] <korgans> where is the soruce list repository file guys ?
[11:15] <Smooph> ok now open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <tk> I've upgraded amarok to the nnewest release, 1.4 and now it wont load... any suggestions as to why? or how to fix?
[11:15] <korgans> p.s for bactram :P
[11:15] <Smooph> korgans: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> mightypea: I don't have a 64bit system yet, looking at your sources.list may be these set of repos might also work, or may be they would just break your system, don't know: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/modifyingubunturepositories
[11:15] <trappist> tk: mysql backend?
[11:15] <Smooph> mightypea: you have to open it under root
[11:16] <tk> trappist: let me checknot sure if I've installed mysql yet
[11:16] <mightypea> Smooph: done
[11:16] <korgans> hey brackham got Msn messenger ?
[11:16] <Smooph> ok now find the line where the driver is listed
[11:17] <tk> trappist: have th client installed, no server
[11:17] <mightypea> Smooph: NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card?
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> korgans: bactram /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <mightypea> in the section "device"?
[11:18] <Smooph> mightypea: in the section device there should be a line like "driver "nvidia""
[11:18] <mightypea> the driver line says"nv", and is right under what i listed up there, "NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[11:18] <Smooph> if "nv" is written there change it to "nvidia"
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> or nv????
[11:18] <mightypea> nv :)
[11:18] <korgans> bactram sended
[11:18] <Smooph> change it
[11:18] <mightypea> done
[11:19] <Smooph> ok now go back to the konsole (first safe your data) than type "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"(with sudo su of course)
[11:20] <mightypea> i imagine that --if this was all i needed to do-- i need to restart my video now, in some way?
[11:20] <Smooph> than everything should work
[11:20] <Smooph> mightypea: wait one second
[11:20] <coachj> narvik86: cant repond to you on other chat
[11:20] <mightypea> holding
[11:20] <Smooph> mightypea: if your x-server does not start again change it back to "nv" but it should work
[11:21] <jon_> is mldonkey essential?
[11:21] <jon_> or do i just have some residual files to get rid of?
[11:21] <korgans> Btw the best way to install nvdriver its from repository worked damn well for me
[11:21] <narvik86> coachj: ok, that is bad - mesa, what card do you have?
[11:21] <Smooph> you know how to change things when you don't have a kde
[11:21] <korgans> all working fine
[11:21] <BluesKaj> !Dapper
[11:21] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:21] <coachj> ati 9000 pro
[11:21] <BluesKaj> !Kubuntu Dapper
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about Kubuntu Dapper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <jon_> am i supposed to have mldonkey or isnt it just a bittorrent?
[11:22] <coachj> navrik86: ati 9000 pro
[11:22] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu 6.06
[11:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about kubuntu 6.06 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:22] <narvik86> coachj: there should be your card name not mesa, previously you was trying to install ati with some howto?
[11:23] <coachj> narvik86: I used the same how to you gave me
[11:23] <narvik86> bactram: np, now you can ignite the web ;)
[11:23] <tk> trappist: installed mysql no help, I tried amarok from cmd line and I get 2 "Bad device" errors right off the bat....
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> Smooph: I have nvidia video adapter but never had the bottle to install the nvdia drivers beyond what is installed by default, is changing xorg.cong driver back to nv the 'get it back working if it all goes horrible wrong' ?
[11:24] <narvik86> coachj: you were using only this one? wasnt modyfing xorg.conf?
[11:24] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know how to switch my default browser to opera (I already have opera installed)?
[11:24] <trappist> tk: I just meant if you were using a mysql backend for amarok, I had trouble with my last upgrade because of a bug in the mysql backend
[11:25] <tk> ohh, I just updated, I havent been able to iconfigure anything since I cant  open it to get to the configs
[11:25] <coachj> narvik86: no I havent done anything manualy, did run Easy Ubuntu.
[11:25] <narvik86> magical_trevsky: k -> sys settings -> kde resources
[11:25] <korgans> hey bactram ya there ?
[11:25] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:25] <Smooph> I thing if all goes wrong of course than not but changeing the xorg.conf back to what it was (nv, or mesa) this makes them work again
[11:25] <magical_trevsky> narvik86, thanks :)
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> magical_trevsky: look in system settings -> kde componenets -> web browser
[11:25] <korgans> Smooph how do i switch to mesa ?
[11:25] <narvik86> magical_trevsky: default programs, www browser :)
[11:25] <tk> trappist: ohh and I just noticed this---- amarok:         [CollectionDB]  [ERROR!]  There is a bug in Amarok: instead of des                                                                                troying your valuable database tables, I'm quitting
[11:26] <Smooph> why would you wanna switch to mesa ? korgans
[11:26] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:26] <korgans> cos wine dont let work eve online if it is in xgl mode
[11:26] <jon_> what does this mean?
[11:26] <jon_> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[11:26] <narvik86> coachj: you made all steps from method I ?
[11:26] <jon_> it wont let me remove the program
[11:26] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:26] <Smooph> korgans: does your opengl work ?
[11:27] <coachj> navric86: yes
[11:27] <korgans> yup
[11:27] <coachj> navrik86: yes
[11:27] <tk> trappist: is that the bug that was affecting you aswell?
[11:27] <korgans> all working great exept for eve who equire mesa cos xgl make it crash
[11:27] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:27] <narvik86> coachj: and reboot?
[11:27] <Smooph> if you want to change to mesa change the xorg.conf but i don't think thats your problem
[11:27] <coachj> navrik86: yes
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: didn't you have this problem the other night with a broken package?
[11:28] <korgans> and hoiw do i change de xorg .conf ?
[11:28] <jon_> i fixed that
[11:28] <trappist> tk: I dunno if that's the one or not
[11:28] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:28] <jon_> that was with the multiverse repositories
[11:28] <jon_> but i dont know what this script error is all about
[11:28] <kickass331> how do I get kth files to work?
[11:29] <narvik86> coachj: sudo aticonfig --initial this also right?
[11:29] <trappist> kickass331: give it a minute.  it's on my screen 5 times.  if anybody knows, they'll answer.
[11:29] <kickass331> themes
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: what did you try to install?
[11:29] <jon_> mldonkey
[11:29] <kickass331> KDE Themes
[11:29] <jon_> then it wouldnt work so i tried to uninstall it
[11:29] <coachj> navrik86:yes
[11:29] <jon_> and it wouldnt uninstall either
[11:30] <Smooph> korgans: if you don't know how to do that you really should not mess with those things because you are probably not skilled enough (but you can change it bye opening a konsole with sudo su an type vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[11:30] <coachj> navrik86: I copy pasted from the site
[11:30] <narvik86> coachj: everything was without errors/warnings?
[11:30] <kickass331> uhm
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: you have synaptic installed?
[11:30] <kickass331> KDE Theme help
[11:31] <jon_> yes, other programs have installed with no problem
[11:31] <korgans> then what do i change ?
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: does it report any broken pacakages?
[11:32] <Smooph> there is a section device and there is a line "driver "fgx(or something like this)" and change this to "driver "mesa"
[11:32] <natan-> how do i shutdown my x11
[11:32] <natan-> ?
[11:33] <jon_> E: mldonkey-server: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[11:33] <narvik86> coachj: everything was without errors/warnings?
[11:33] <Smooph> natan-: log out than look in the menu restart x-server
[11:33] <Smooph> if it is that what you mean
[11:33] <thompa> natan: are you talking about your desktop?
[11:33] <natan-> ermmm i can't i can only access this machine via and nx server
[11:34] <natan-> i have x11 running on port 6000 or something like that
[11:34] <Smooph> sry don't know that
[11:34] <thompa> ok
[11:34] <natan-> i need to use port 6000
[11:34] <jon_> mldonkey gave me and error when i tried to install samba too
[11:34] <natan-> so i need to shut down x11
[11:34] <narvik86> try pkill maybe?
[11:34] <narvik86> coachj: everything was without errors/warnings?
[11:35] <coachj> navrik86: yes
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: does synaptic report this as a broken package, does synaptic let you do anything with it?
[11:35] <kickass331> HOW DO I INSTALL THEMES?
[11:35] <thompa> go look at gnomelook.org
[11:35] <thompa> or kdelook are some
[11:35] <kickass331> kdelook.org
[11:36] <kickass331> I downloaded vista
[11:36] <thompa> im in kde i guess
[11:36] <korgans> not able to open it in console mode
[11:36] <OpeNZ> lol vista
[11:36] <korgans> i open it but can tedit it
[11:36] <korgans> cant
[11:36] <narvik86> coachj: if you want you can simply repeat all steps, i have only one idea, but you need to repeat steps
[11:36] <thompa> windows mesdia center edition is awful
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> kickass331: well we all have our off days :-)
[11:36] <thompa> an install need about 10 reboots
[11:36] <jon_> TheGateKeeper  it says E: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:36] <kickass331> how do I install themes?
[11:37] <jon_> a package failed to install. trying to recover:
[11:37] <OpeNZ> vista sucks big time
[11:37] <coachj> navrik86: ok, just repeat steps nothing else
[11:37] <jon_> thats what the synaptic terminal says
[11:37] <kickass331> I know it sucks
[11:37] <thompa> full of spyware and it takes about 7 hours to install
[11:37] <jon_> it does not let me do anything with it
[11:37] <kickass331> could you tell me how to install it anyways
[11:37] <thompa> go to system settings appearance
[11:38] <kickass331> then what?
[11:38] <thompa> well there you can install icon themes
[11:39] <kickass331> no I mean KDE themes
[11:39] <thompa> kde theme manager
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: probable need to ask someone with more knowledge than me, but you will need to sort this package out before you can move forward, either removing or reinstalling the package, I would also be tempted to post a bug
[11:39] <kickass331> that's KDM
[11:39] <kickass331> I want KDE
[11:39] <jon_> i tried to reinstall but that didnt work
[11:39] <kickass331> K Desktop Environment
[11:39] <kickass331> Thems
[11:39] <kickass331> KDM is crap
[11:40] <kickass331> Manager
[11:40] <jon_> yea, i cant put samba on without fixing this first, it seems
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: and probable others too
[11:40] <jon_> this sucks
[11:40] <thompa> what about dekorator
[11:41] <jon_> thanks anyway tho
[11:41] <coachj> navrik86: do i just repeat or is there something else?
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: have you got a backup prior to installing mldonkey-server ??
[11:41] <jon_> no
[11:41] <tk> trappist: apparently its trying to use SQlite despite changing the setting using the wizard
[11:41] <jon_> i updated to dapper
[11:42] <narvik86> coachj: ok type fglrxinfo and tell me is it mesa
[11:42] <jon_> hoping the problem would take care of itself
[11:42] <jon_> but its still there
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: ok :-)
[11:42] <coachj> navrik86: penGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[11:42] <jon_> i suppose i could start over...
[11:42] <MikeMcA> I just installed kubuntu on my desktop system and I have a strange problem.  It's as if my "logical" desktop is slightly wider and taller than the actual pixel dimensions of my screen.  When I move my mouse to an edge the whole desktop slides slightly (both left-right and up-down depending on the edge), including the KDE panel, the background image, etc.  Anyone know what's going on and how I can disable this?  Thanks!
[11:43] <jon_> that just doesnt sound as easy as maybe some unknown solution....
[11:43] <narvik86> coachj: i don't know what was installed by easyubuntu, you can open file with sudo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: sorry I could not be more help, try one of the others, you could also posting a question on ubuntu forums, people are surprisingly quic
[11:44] <Blissex> MikeMcA: that's if you have configured your virtual desktop larger than the screen size you have configured.
[11:44] <Smooph> MikeMcA: I had a simular problem with my 2nd monitor but it was really hard to get that fixed
[11:44] <jon_> thanks
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> jon_: quick with answers ooops
[11:44] <narvik86> coachj: packets from easyubuntu are making problems to this packets, can you unistall previous in easyubuntu?
[11:45] <coachj> i can try
[11:45] <MikeMcA> Blissex: do you know where that is configured?  I haven't knowingly adjusted my virtual desktop.  I literally just got up and running about 10 min ago
[11:46] <Blissex> MikeMcA: '/etc/X11/Xorg.conf' look for a line with "Virtual" on it.
[11:46] <obf213> how do i use k developer
[11:47] <Smooph> MikeMcA: you can change those things in the xorg.conf
[11:47] <kickass331> How do I use kth files?
[11:47] <MikeMcA> Blissex, Smooph: thanks!
[11:47] <coachj> navrik86: thanks for the help I cant spend anymore time on this right now.
[11:49] <tk> trappist: found ht e problem, you just have to delete or rename ~/kde/share/apps/amarok/collections.db and it will bypass that problem
[11:50] <danex> I have an Unusual Problem with Kubuntu on my laptop, IBM Thinkpad30,  When booting into Kunbuntu It stops at Mounting root file system
[11:50] <trappist> tk: yeah, that wipes out your collection but you can always rebuild it
[11:52] <paul_> Can anyone teach me how to install flash player?  I downloaded the stuff, but I don't know which folder to put it in, or what command lines to run.
[11:52] <tk> trappist: it was 2 days old, not a lot of stats to lose ;)
[11:53] <trappist> tk: then there's your solution :)
[11:54] <macd> danex: in grubs boot options, turn acpi=off
[11:54] <macd> paul_ : Id recommend automatix for you.
[11:54] <paul_> what's automatix? (sorry, im very new to linux)
[11:54] <macd> paul_ : www.getatomatix.org
[11:54] <paul_> ahh
[11:54] <paul_> will that automatically install?
[11:55] <macd> paul_ : yes along with TONS of other things you want.
[11:55] <tk> except now it still says it cant play mp3s when the website says that this version supports it out of the box
[11:55] <macd> mp3 playing ability, quicktime, flash, java, dvd playing ability...
[11:55] <paul_> macd: thank you very much
[11:55] <macd> paul_ : not a problem
[11:56] <SimAtWork_> tk, you can't play mp3s?
[11:56] <SimAtWork_> tk: have you install amarok?
[11:56] <macd> paul_ : my mistake its http://www.getautomatix.com/
[11:56] <macd> I gave you the wrong url!
[11:56] <paul_> yeah, i was about to say, lol
[11:56] <danex> macd how do i get to it , i am new to linux
[11:57] <tk> SimAtWork_: yes, updated to latest amarok
[11:57] <sotired> What do i need to get from adept for compiz/xgl in kde?
[11:57] <SimAtWork_> tk: and it won't play mp3s?
[11:57] <tk> nope, offers to install mp3 support but hten it appears to crash
[11:57] <macd> danex: when your system starts to boot, hit ESC to get the grub menu, then you will need to edit your grub configuration, its all rather self explanitory once you hit ESC :)
[11:57] <Smooph> !mp3
[11:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:58] <Glin|Jol> Winamp 5.24 paused
[11:59] <sotired> What do i need to get from adept for compiz/xgl in kde?
[11:59] <sotired> sry didnt mean to do that again
[11:59] <SimAtWork_> tk: that is more than a little strange.
[11:59] <SimAtWork_> tk: you just installed kubuntu?
[11:59] <macd> SimAtWork_ and tk without enabling certain repositories, it will crash, make sure universe is enabled.
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> sotired, ..
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[12:00] <kickass331> help
[12:01] <kickass331> I need to install a kth theme
[12:01] <SimAtWork_> macd: ahh
[12:01] <SimAtWork_> that sounds like a bug to me though
[12:01] <SimAtWork_> it shouldn't ever crash
[12:01] <macd> yeah agreed
[12:01] <tk> macd: universe is enabled
[12:01] <|lostbyte|> kickass331, kcontrol
[12:01] <new_penguin> hi
[12:01] <new_penguin> I just got my kubuntu live cd
[12:02] <new_penguin> it is good
[12:02] <new_penguin> very good
[12:02] <|lostbyte|> !compiz > sotired
[12:02] <obf213> how cqan i find ppls i tunes with amarok
[12:02] <tk> well gotta finish this later, work :(
[12:03] <macd> obf213: care to say that in english?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Even Automatix dropped Asureus from their list due to the libswt.. pkgs having a circular depency install problem in Kubuntu 6.06
[12:04] <obf213> im sorr macd, lemme remove the q. for you. how can i find ppls itune librarys with itunes
[12:05] <danex> macd, could not find that in the options, It may have something to do with the docking station,  I am going to do a reinstall with the unit off the docking station
[12:05] <macd> danex: I doubt thats the issue, but your welcome to try ;)
[12:06] <macd> obf213: Well itunes isnt supposed by kubuntu, so I think you might ask apple howto find itunes librarys with itunes.
[12:06] <obf213> macd, care to say that in english
[12:06] <macd> you asked howto find itunes librarys in itunes.
[12:06] <obf213> no
[12:07] <danex> macd, just tested with it on the docking station   boots up o.k. ,  only fails off the docking station
[12:07] <obf213> i want to know if amarok can find itunes libaries
[12:07] <macd> "obf213 how can i find ppls itune librarys with itunes"
[12:07] <macd> anyways
[12:07] <macd> let me see one sec.
[12:08] <obf213> meh i got it write the first time, but my q befuddled you, anyways can amarok find itunes libaries