[07:55] <OilR0ck> snarkster: there is mencoder and ffmpeg, and a gui: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016&highlight=convertit
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> OilR0ck: Since you are northern american in the widest sense, I see you don't care about saving energy ;)
[07:55] <OilR0ck> lol
[07:56] <OilR0ck> :)
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> My point of view is, when the PC is idle, it does not have to be running.  In fact I have another desktop which runs mythbuntu gutsy and it hibernates fine (after some tweaking)
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> feisty will come back up with dead usb, which is pretty bad if you have a usb mouse like I do...
[08:00] <OilR0ck> so just upgrade to gutsy
[08:00] <OilR0ck> it will be fine ;)
[08:00] <jtmoney> can someone explain uid/gid to me, or find me a web site that does? :)
[08:01] <OilR0ck> user id and group id
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I am actually considering doing this now that hardy will not be LTS anyway
[08:01] <OilR0ck> oh, i thought the next release was LTS?
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> OilR0ck: Not for Kubuntu, since they will focus on KDE 4... According to a discussion on kubuntu-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html
[08:03] <OilR0ck> jtmoney: what do you need to know?
[08:03] <jtmoney> i have no what idea what they mean, except that UID=0?
[08:03] <jtmoney> so, i'm not sure what UID=1000 means?
[08:04] <snarkster> that your users id number
[08:04] <jtmoney> all users can read/write to mounted shares if i specify that as part of the options for a mount command?
[08:04] <OilR0ck> uid=0 is root
[08:04] <OilR0ck> uid=1000, is a particular user id
[08:04] <jtmoney> ahh
[08:04] <stdin> each user has a user ID (a number) assigned to it
[08:04] <jtmoney> 1000 = my user id
[08:04] <jtmoney> according to /etc/passwd
[08:04] <OilR0ck> yes
[08:04] <OilR0ck> and you'll prob see 1000:1000
[08:04] <jtmoney> so, basically, only i have read/write permissions?
[08:04] <jtmoney> yes
[08:04] <OilR0ck> the second is your group it
[08:04] <OilR0ck> cat /etc/group
[08:05] <jtmoney> okay, thus the g in gid? :)
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_identifier_(Unix)
[08:05] <jtmoney> beautiful
[08:05] <OilR0ck> yep
[08:05] <stdin> "id -u" shows your user id and "id -g" shows group id
[08:05] <jtmoney> thanks, guys
[08:05] <snarkster> it is a beautiful thing
[08:06] <jtmoney> out of curiosity, where is the unshadowed password file in ubuntu?
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: And, who would have guessed it, GUID is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_identifier_(Unix)
[08:07] <jtmoney> ahh, /etc/shadow
[08:08] <jtmoney> can i just say, i bought this toshiba on sale for $550
[08:08] <jtmoney> came with vista basic, and it ran like absolute crap
[08:08] <jtmoney> doubled the memory... still ran like absolute crap
[08:08] <jtmoney> threw kubuntu on here and i never looked back
[08:08] <jtmoney> it would have taken more time (if possible at all) to locate all the appropriate drivers for this lappy under xp
[08:08] <jtmoney> ubuntu is so solid
[08:09] <jtmoney> i think i'm going to move my mom over to it
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: I tried that too, her printer does not work in Linux... :/
[08:09] <jtmoney> "all i need is the web and email" and she already users firefox and thunderbird... i don't see why i shouldn't
[08:10] <jtmoney> ohh, hahahaha forgot about that
[08:10] <romunov> i managed to get compiz working on kubuntu 7.10
[08:10] <jtmoney> except the mfc she has is a brother which generally have good linux support from what i recal
[08:10] <romunov> the trick is to not use the glx version :)
[08:10] <jtmoney> romunov: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:10] <OilR0ck> yes, you don't want glx with nvidia
[08:10] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: That's what she gets for not asking advice when shopping for a new printer... Now she'll get Windows 98 and I will get a T-Shirt saying "No, I will not fix your Windows"
[08:11] <jtmoney> MilhousePunkRock: hahahaha those shirts are money
[08:11] <jtmoney> actually, i bought it for her on a whim on black friday
[08:11] <jtmoney> i've been through epsons, hps, lexmarks, etc.
[08:11] <jtmoney> the only one i thought was truly solid was a brother
[08:11] <jtmoney> or, as i like to call them, "mah niggas" :-X
[08:11] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: We'ce had a Lexmark before, that worked pretty well. Was on Gentoo though
[08:11] <OilR0ck> yeah my brother mfc works good
[08:12] <OilR0ck> now anyway
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> lexmark is possibly the worst printer manufacturer ever.  their printers are almost literally disposable, as it's almost cheaper to buy a new printer than ink for the old one.
[08:13] <jtmoney> okay, now i wish there was a way to congfigure knetworkmanager to launch the little script i wrote to mount windows shares when it connects to the wireless network in my house (and not, say, whenever i'm on campus... don't really feel secure sending out l/p requests in a classroom full of CS nerds)
[08:13] <jtmoney> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, if i had more room, i would just buy a laser printer and keep the brother for scanning/color printing
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> if i buy a laser, it'll be an HP
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> probably
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> not sure what brother's reliability is like for laser printers
[08:14] <OilR0ck> what i need is AVCHD support
[08:15] <jtmoney> Daisuke_Ido: at my old job, we had lots of HP lasers... they were absolute tanks
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> the old ones are, yeah, but the new ones...  not so much, from what i've heard
[08:16] <jtmoney> yeah, this was five years ago or so... and they had them when i started working there
[08:16] <jtmoney> i'll give brother a go
[08:17] <jtmoney> teh sexy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113165
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: I have a Samsung ML-2010 now, it's been really  cheap and prints like it should. Hooked up to Debian NSLU2 even my girlfriend can print from her Windows laptop
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that is pretty nice
[08:20] <OilR0ck> maybe check here before you buy: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113212 <- i'd spring the extra for that one just for duplexing alone
[08:23] <jtmoney> yeah, i think having a network interface is where it's at
[08:25] <MilhousePunkRock> jtmoney: Mine is networked without a NIC
[08:26] <Daisuke_Ido> from the reviews i'm seeing the construction is lightweight and there's a lot of page curl...  maybe i'll go with an HP after all
[08:32] <jtmoney> blah, now i just have to get c&c generals working with wine or cedega
[08:36] <dsmith_> how about cnc 3
[08:54] <snarkster> need to make sure you have opengl to play cnc Gens
[08:55] <snarkster> I could really use mach64 DRI but kubuntu doesnt have it anymore
[08:55] <snarkster> when i run glxgears the gears hardly move.
[08:56] <snarkster> when i have mach64 DRI installed then move just fine
[09:01] <sorin> hi all
[09:02] <sonoftheclayr> What does everybody think about using envy to install the nvidia drivers?
[09:03] <stdin> !envy
[09:03] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:03] <stdin> that's what I think ^
[09:03] <sonoftheclayr> Oh yeah. What if the driver that the restriced manager installs won't load glx?
[09:05] <stdin> if the packaged version doesn't, then it's not likely the version envy pulls will
[09:05] <sonoftheclayr> Damn
[09:08] <snarkster> where would I find the kde restricted mangar gui
[09:08] <snarkster> i thought system but not there
[09:09] <snarkster> or what is the command to start it?
[09:11] <snarkster> oh another thing my control center is empty as well as my info center, how do i put things from lost and found in the right on the kmenu
[09:13] <berkes> is anyone else experiencing problems with nspluginviewer on konqueror qfter recent upgrades (last week)
[09:13] <berkes> ?
[09:13] <snarkster> yes
[09:13] <jussi01> !flashissues | berkes
[09:13] <ubotu> berkes: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[09:14] <jussi01> berkes: also see /topic -you should read it every time you come in here
[09:14] <berkes> jussi01: I ususally do. sorry
[09:14] <jussi01> :)
[09:15] <berkes> I have been looking for the launchpad entry on this today. Do you have an issue number or url?
[09:16] <poison--> mornin guys
[09:16] <snarkster> WB poison
[09:18] <poison--> :D
[09:20] <sigma_> guys i think something has attacked my pc, the name of the trash can in kontact has changed from "trash" to "Deleted Items" and when i click on the trash can in the taskbar it says "Empty Deleted Items folder" instead of "Empty Trash Bin" - any idea how i can change it back?
[09:21] <snarkster> attacked?? come on man your in a tank..
[09:21] <snarkster> the penguin tank
[09:21] <snarkster> did you install a theme?
[09:22] <poison--> pretty sure he did
[09:22] <snarkster> oh bit of news.. if you install rc2 live cd and decide to go back to 3.5.8 dont forget to install kubuntu-desktop or some things wont work right
[09:22] <sigma_> lol ok thats a bit of a over reaction, nope didnt change the theme, i did change the locale from USA to south africa
[09:22] <stdin> sigma_: that's why then
[09:23] <snarkster> hmm could that have changed the name of trach can
[09:23] <stdin> different locals have different names for ir
[09:23] <stdin> *it
[09:23] <snarkster> i dont even have a trashcan on my desktop
[09:23] <snarkster> how do you make one?
[09:23] <stdin> make a link to url, and have the url as "trash:/"
[09:24] <snarkster> thank you very much
[09:24] <sigma_> ah that solved it, was a bit worried there for a moment!
[09:25] <sigma_> you can install kde 4 rc2 from the live cd as a seperate installation?
[09:25] <snarkster> anyone know anything about superkaramba
[09:25] <snarkster> nah I dumped the whole computer
[09:25] <sigma_> kind of, what do u wanna know?
[09:25] <snarkster> Im trying to use the Yahoo Avatar theme for superkaramba but it does nothing
[09:26] <snarkster> very little documentation about that theme
[09:26] <sigma_> ok wouldn't know about that but alot of the themes don't work for some reason
[09:27] <snarkster> would you mind giving it a try?
[09:27] <snarkster> if you have a yahoo account i mean
[09:27] <snarkster> nah nv.. to invasive..
[09:27] <snarkster> sorry
[09:27] <sigma_> nope dont have one, im a google supporter:)
[09:28] <romunov_> has anyone got a good tutorial on how to install a nice docker?
[09:28] <max__> does anyone know how to use gtalk on kubuntu KDE 7.0
[09:28] <jtmoney> romunov_: like awn?
[09:28] <sigma_> kde7.0?
[09:29] <jussi01> ???
[09:29] <romunov_> jtmoney: anything will do
[09:29] <max__> thats d desktop i am using
[09:29] <berkes> timewarped from the future?
[09:30] <jussi01> romunov_: go google avant window navigator - there is a good tutorial on their site
[09:30] <stdin> max__: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[09:30] <max__> avant k................thnx dude
[09:30] <berkes> oh, max_ prolly means he's running kubuntu 7.0 (and not KDE 7.0).
[09:30] <jussi01> berkes: there is no 7.0
[09:30] <Pants> um ... I need help setting up my screen.  before, I'd had no problem getting a good resolution with a generic "Plug and Play" monitor driver, but then I installed a whole bunch of updates and now my only choices are 800 by 600 and 640 by 480
[09:31] <sigma_> will kubuntu hardy work properly with 5.1 creative sound cards? i found a script to make it work but it only works sometimes and jams alsa completely other times
[09:31] <jussi01> berkes: 7.04 and 7.10
[09:31] <romunov_> jussi01: thanks, i'll do that
[09:31] <jussi01> romunov_: :)
[09:31] <berkes> jussi01: sorry, type, I wanted to type 7.10 =)
[09:31] <jussi01> berkes: ;)
[09:31] <max__> its working with my philips 5.1
[09:31] <jussi01> Pants: nvidia pr ati graphics?
[09:31] <jussi01> or*
[09:32] <sigma_> stdin: is there any way to move my screen slightly to the left? when i output to the tv its a bit too much to the right (gets cut off)
[09:32] <Pants> jussi01, nvidia
[09:32] <stdin> sigma_: I wouldn't know, I never use TV output
[09:32] <sigma_> max__: which version of kubuntu does it work on?
[09:32] <jussi01> Pants: just go and reinstall the nvidia driver
[09:32] <jussi01> !nvidia | Pants
[09:32] <ubotu> Pants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <max__> i am using 7
[09:33] <sigma_> stdin: well do you know of any command for a monitor in general, windows has that gui where you click the arrows but theres nothing like that in linux
[09:33] <Pants> thank you, jussi01!
[09:34] <Bicubic> uh.. I'm installing right now and the process seems to have hung at configuring apt "scanning the mirror". What the shi?
[09:34] <jtmoney> Pants: i would recommend using envy
[09:34] <jtmoney> lest headache that way
[09:34] <stdin> sigma_: not really, no
[09:34] <Pants> what's envy?
[09:34] <Pants> !envy
[09:34] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[09:35] <Pants> ...
[09:35] <jussi01> jtmoney: no need for ewnvy
[09:36] <sigma_> which version of kde is on the hardy alpha2 cd?
[09:36] <stdin> same as in gutsy
[09:37] <jussi01> sigma_: #ubuntu+1 for hardy q's
[09:37] <romunov> hum, do i really need glx to run awn?
[09:37] <romunov> i've had really bad experience with it
[09:38] <jussi01> romunov: to run awn you need compiz
[09:38] <sigma_> is that kde 4 rc2 cd on the kubuntu site just a live cd or also a installer cd?
[09:39] <snarkster> both
[09:39] <snarkster> smoke break
[09:39] <romunov> jussi01: check!
[09:39] <jussi01> romunov: ??
[09:39] <jtmoney> romunov: which video card do you have?
[09:39] <sigma_> its rather small though, are alot of the apps missing?
[09:41] <romunov> i use radeon 9600SE
[09:42] <romunov> i have compiz running (with emerald)
[09:42] <jtmoney> romunov: i installed the latest ati binary and it allows for compiz to run without xgl
[09:43] <jtmoney> well, i updated to 8.4.3 and now it doens't work, heh
[09:43] <jtmoney> but it worked for 8.4.2
[09:44] <romunov> i have compiz running on "defaults"
[09:44] <romunov> i did a fresh install yesterday (i somehow managed to wreck the system) and installed compiz+emerald over that
[09:45] <jtmoney> romunov: i usually don't install emerald... i just use kde-window-decorator
[09:45] <jtmoney> brb, gotta reboot
[09:46] <jtmoney> fux0ring with envy as we speak
[09:46] <snarkster> where do I send request for xorg-driver-mach to?
[09:47] <romunov> well, i gotta run to the store and hit the showers before a friend arrives
[09:48] <snarkster> enjoy
[09:48] <Pants> I'm reconfiguring the xserver-xorg package ... do I need the framebuffer device interface enabled?
[09:48] <Pants> !framebuffer
[09:48] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[09:48] <snarkster> !xorg-driver-mach
[09:49] <vzduch> Pants: framebuffer is for mostly mobile devices that don't run on a regular X server
[09:50] <romunov> snarkster: you don't have to be so snarkastric :)
[09:50] <snarkster> LOL
[09:50] <Pants> okay, thanks, vzduch
[09:50] <snarkster> well its almost 3am here..
[09:50] <vzduch> well, it's almost 11 a.m. here
[09:51] <romunov> is there a way to "save" my current settings and everything - so i can revert to this at a latter time?
[09:51] <vzduch> the nicest sunshine, but shivery cold
[09:51] <sivaji> is there any tool to check my speaker and mic status ?
[09:51] <vzduch> romunov: what settings?
[09:51] <romunov> my kubuntu *.*
[09:51] <romunov> everything... if you know what i mean
[09:52] <vzduch> !backup
[09:52] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:52] <sivaji> !recorder
[09:52] <romunov> if i mess anything up, i can revert to this setting...
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recorder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <romunov> thanks
[09:52] <sivaji> !sound
[09:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:53] <sivaji> is there any tool to check my speaker and mic working condition ?
[09:55] <snarkster> !driver requests
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver requests - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <stdin> snarkster: file a bug report for it
[09:56] <snarkster> bug report for what a new driver?
[09:57] <snarkster> ive never ever done a bug report. Have no clue as to what to put or where to go
[09:57] <stdin> if it exists, then request it to be packaged
[09:57] <stdin> !bug
[09:57] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:57] <snarkster> it does exist and where do i go to post such a request.
[09:57] <stdin> snarkster: the 1st link ubotu posted
[09:57] <snarkster> thank you
[09:58] <stdin> then click the big red "Report a bug" button
[09:58] <sivaji> stdin is there any tool to check my speaker and mic working condition ?
[09:59] <stdin> speakers: system settings -> sound system -> test sound
[09:59] <stdin> for mic I guess you can try plugging it in and turning up the volume in kmix
[10:15] <desti> http://www.garagegames.com/products/29/
[10:16] <jpatrick> !ot > desti
[10:18] <desti> k
[10:40]  * membrive saluda
[10:41] <jpatrick> membrive: wrong channel / canal incorrecto ;)
[10:41] <romunov> is anyone experiencing compiz/openoffice-presentation conflicts?
[10:42] <romunov> make that openoffice-*.*
[10:43] <membrive> jpatrick, was just an /ame ;)
[10:44] <phenix> hello all
[10:44] <pag> hey phenix :)
[10:45] <phenix> mmm how many nixoidow
[10:49] <risto> is there any vim like in mac ?
[10:51] <blackflag> I want to use ntpdate in  a script
[10:51] <blackflag> but ntpdate is executable by root
[10:52] <blackflag> how can I execute ntpdate in a script?
[10:52] <blackflag> can someone help?
[10:52] <kingoftheroots> sudo the script
[10:53] <blackflag> yes okay, but I want to execute it via cron
[10:53] <sigma_> How do i reset my firewall to the default settings?
[10:53] <kingoftheroots> so put it in roots cron tab
[10:53] <kingoftheroots> kcron
[10:53] <blackflag> ahh,okay :)
[10:56] <dhude> can I install mce on ubuntu?
[10:59] <romunov> dhude: have you tried a package manager?
[10:59] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[11:00] <sigma_> Riddell: right now?
[11:00] <dhude> romunov: I tried synaptic
[11:00] <Riddell> sigma_: yes
[11:00] <romunov> still having trouble with compiz and title bars...
[11:00] <romunov> Riddell: what's the meeting about? can anyone participate?
[11:00] <snarkster> wow getting a different drm to work is hard.
[11:02] <girolamo> !italiano
[11:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:03] <Riddell> romunov: about kubuntu, all welcome
[11:04] <snarkster> ood night
[11:12] <davf> Anyone here?
[11:14] <bjwebb> hi
[11:16] <bjwebb> anyone konw if its possible to get a keyboard volume control working with linux
[11:16] <bjwebb> and how?
[11:16] <risto> any quanta pros here ?
[11:17] <risto> how i get my main toolbar back if i lost it ???
[11:23] <se7en_> sombody use kmobiletool and know what kmobile (returning error) >>>AT+CPMS=MT means
[11:27] <Hamra> a week ago, i did a clean install of gutsy, but i had problems on startup with fsck, iyt kept hanging on "checking filesystems", so i booted the liveCD and opened fstab, and put zeroes in the last column of my drives, does that remove them from the bad shutdown check as well ?
[11:27] <olivier> Bonjour à tous
[11:27] <Hamra> !fr | olivier
[11:27] <ubotu> olivier: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:33] <eshat> hey,.. flashplayer on x64 does not work anymore ,...
[11:36] <JohnFlux> mark shuttleworth is on bbc news now!
[11:36] <bjwebb> o rly?
[11:36] <bjwebb> which channel
[11:37] <eshat> BBC
[11:37] <JohnFlux> dunno, i'm watching it online :-D
[11:37] <JohnFlux> he's gone now heh
[11:37] <JohnFlux> they are talking about connecting villages that are around 2KM apart
[11:38] <bjwebb> yeah, click
[11:38] <bjwebb> its bestof
[11:38] <bjwebb> so i think i saw that interview
[11:42] <eshat> WHY doesn't my FlashPlayer work anymore,... i am on x64
[11:43] <Dekans> how did you manager it to work ?
[11:43] <Dekans> managed*
[11:44] <eshat> when i try to reinstall i get a "
[11:44] <eshat> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[11:44] <eshat> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[11:45] <eshat> retrying doesn't solve this
[11:45] <Dekans> flashfplugin is a "é bits binary
[11:46] <eshat> i found the soloution in ubuntu forums
[11:46] <vzduch> !flashissues
[11:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
[11:46] <eshat> reason is that adobe updated there flash player but the md5 mismatches with ubuntu reps
[11:47] <bjwebb> hi
[11:48] <jussi01> !broadcom
[11:48] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:54] <andy_123> hi all
[11:54] <lufthanza> how do I get the rss feed applet in kubuntu?
[11:54] <crazy_bus> something strange has happened.  Everything seems to be working except for 2 things.  One nothing appears in my dvd drives folder.  And two kaffeine doesn't open and leaves no error message.  Any ideas why?
[11:54] <lufthanza> andy_123: hi
[11:54] <andy_123> can anyone tell me where to download kernel packages? in need to downgrade, last update killed some drivers :-(
[11:55] <lufthanza> crazy_bus: have you tried opening kaffeine through the command line?
[11:55] <crazy_bus> lufthanza: yes.  It outputs nothing.  It just goes back to the commandline without doing anything
[11:55] <lufthanza> andy_123: what drivers?
[11:55] <lufthanza> crazy_bus: that's very strane
[11:56] <crazy_bus> I also reinstalled while keeping my home directory and it didn't fix the problem
[11:57] <eshat> what are good programs to pimp my kde desktop
[11:57] <lufthanza> crazy_bus: I dunno if this will help, but have you tried "sudo apt-get remove kaffeine --purge"
[11:58] <lufthanza> eshat: yakuake
[12:01] <lufthanza> eshat: also, knewsticker
[12:09] <eshat> yakuake looks great
[12:10] <eshat> are there any other programs ,... for example to show sysinfos on kde desktop ?
[12:13] <eshat> everybody idle here ???
[12:13] <eshat> must be because of christmas time
[12:22] <andy_123> hi, i had to downgrade kernel and now my sound is gone, can anyone tellme which package needs to be reinstalled?
[12:22] <sourcemaker> I have a kernel panic with my WLAN card (Realtek) after I have upgraded my system to gusty. I have found some posts... that there is a kernel problem... this problem should be fixed in kernel <IP_ADDRESS>... how can I update? This kernel is not in apt?
[12:24] <ScottG> doesn't appear to be people here right now who's know the answers.. I'm relatively new to Kubuntu..
[12:24] <ScottG> I meant people who know the answer
[12:26] <sourcemaker> andy_123: there is no need to reinstall packages after downgrade your kernel... there are only some problems with graphics card like nvidia...
[12:26] <sourcemaker> andy_123: but then your X-Server will crashed... when the version is not compatible
[13:04] <_cj> hi anyone running kde4?
[13:05] <messiah> hola qué hay
[13:06] <messiah> alguien me podría echar una pequeña mano? ayer me instalé el Kubuntu, y tenía acceso a las particiones NTFS y ahora no
[13:06] <messiah> no he tocado nada, que yo sepa, qué puedo hacer? alguien me podría ayduar?
[13:06] <angasule> !es | messiah
[13:06] <ubotu> messiah: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:06] <messiah> ah, gracias
[13:07] <messiah> !es
[13:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:07] <messiah> oh...
[13:07] <messiah> this channel is for english speakers?
[13:07] <angasule> yes
[13:07] <messiah> ah...
[13:08] <messiah> mmm...
[13:08] <messiah> well, i will try to explain myself
[13:08] <messiah> yesterday i installed kubuntu and i could access to my HD "ntfs" or the windows files system
[13:08] <messiah> and i turn-ed on today and i couldn't access to them, i think i didn't change anything
[13:09] <messiah> can anyone help me please?
[13:12] <bazhang> !ntfs | messiah
[13:12] <ubotu> messiah: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[13:14] <redlex> hi people
[13:14] <bazhang> hi redlex
[13:17] <sigma_kubuntu> im so thankful they finally sorted out the system tray problem in kde4
[13:18] <_cj> what problem?
[13:18] <redlex> im have some problems with kb layouts in kde
[13:18] <sigma_kubuntu> now it actually goes in2 the taskbar! and i see most of the icon issues have been sorted out
[13:19] <_cj> redlex: setxkbmap
[13:19] <_cj> sigma_kubuntu: you running PPA packages?
[13:19] <sigma_kubuntu> _cj: it was floating around 4a while now u can put it in the taskbar
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: nice eh ? :D
[13:21] <sigma_kubuntu> _cj: na i tested the first kde4 live cd. and saw screenshots of rc2. some major improvements indeed
[13:21] <redlex> no no, i can set russian layout but can't set english back
[13:22] <Xeross> hey
[13:22] <sigma_kubuntu> nosrednaekim: yes indeed! can you right click the taskbar to modify it like kde 3?
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: unfortunately not...but I'll bet it'll get there soon..
[13:23] <Xeross> with the live cd my wireless network usb stick works but then i install kubuntu and boot from my computer and then it sais
[13:23] <Xeross> wlan0
[13:23] <Xeross> is disabled and when i enable it disables again in 1 second
[13:25] <redlex> i want to set layouts by pressing alt_shift
[13:25] <sigma_kubuntu> nosrednaekim: in that rc2 screenshot theres a battery monitor in the taskbar. i remember from earlier that you cud only have that monitor on the desktop. has it now been permanentely added there?
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: nope, you can drag from the widgets box to the panel
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> though not from the desktop to the panel (yet)
[13:26] <hungrymouse> why does kopete crash whenever it tries to display LaTeX?
[13:26] <jpatrick> LaTeX is too good for it
[13:26] <hungrymouse> (well, it doesnt crash. it hangs indefinitely and stops responding)
[13:28] <sigma_kubuntu> nosrednaekim: ah i see what you are saying. so its kinda like those applets in kde 3 where you could drag and drop them on the taskbar. another thing i noticed- whats the reason for the taskbar not being the full length of the desktop?
[13:28] <redlex> как сделать чтобы переключать раскладки нажатием фде-ыршае
[13:28] <redlex> alt_shift*
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: what do you mean? it is for me.... though it can do funky things when you add and remove applets(until a re-login)
[13:29] <jpatrick> !ru | redlex
[13:29] <ubotu> redlex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[13:31] <sigma_kubuntu> nosrednaekim: if u look at the screenshots at kde.org you will see it. looks rather nice if u ask me
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: well, with some config file hacking, you can make it do that ;)
[13:33] <sigma_kubuntu> nosrednaekim: lol. hopefully it will be a feature soon! how buggy is it to you?
[13:33] <sigma_kubuntu> the desktop on the whole
[13:33] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: *no* crashes for 2 weeks.
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> of course, some apps crash, but the main desktop is rock solid
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> even Kwin-compositing
[13:37] <sigma_kubuntu> well thats comforting to hear. i only use standard apps. nothing too fancy. but my pc is a webserver so perhaps i should test the final one on my laptop. hope it comes with a live installer cd
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> sigma_kubuntu: yup... it will.
[13:43] <kubuntu> heiss :>
[13:43] <jpatrick> !de | kubuntu
[13:43] <ubotu> kubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:43] <nosrednaekim> hi kubuntu
[13:43] <kubuntu> hi :D
[13:43] <kubuntu> what's up?
[13:44] <jpatrick> !ot > kubuntu
[13:46] <kubuntu> gues whos birthday is today? :>
[13:48] <kubuntu> argh, you people are booring
[13:48] <etfb> kubuntu: Martin Opitz von Boberfeld?
[13:48] <bazhang> kubuntu: this is a support channel
[13:48] <etfb> kubuntu: Joseph Smith Jr?
[13:48] <jpatrick> kubuntu: this is a support channell
[13:49] <Downix> etfb: isn't he dead?
[13:49] <etfb> Maybe he needed help finding the Wikipedia article on today's date...
[13:49] <kubuntu> i can't understand anything. what is going on?
[13:49] <etfb> Downix: Given that they were born in 1597 and 1805 respectively, I'd say so.
[13:49] <Downix> heh
[13:49] <etfb> kubuntu: What do you mean?
[13:49] <Downix> *sighs at OpenBSD*
[13:50] <kubuntu> does anybody speak finnish?
[13:50] <jpatrick> !fi | kubuntu
[13:50] <ubotu> kubuntu: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[13:50] <kubuntu> äää. mä en tajuu mitään.
[13:51] <kubuntu> byebye. i'm leaving.
[13:51] <bazhang> bye
[13:52] <sigma_123> nosraenadkim: sorry about that. what did you say about how performance on kde4 compares to kde3 on your pc?
[13:53] <rinaldi_> anyone running linux mce on kubunu 7.04? its just im having installation issues and noone is answering in #linuxmce
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: didn't say aything about it.... but both feel fairly quick and snappy, its a fairly modern computer, so everything runs pretty snappy(even vista without aero)
[13:55] <sigma_123> ah ok. well i did manage running vista with aero. just worried if it will cope on my dell d600. im only geting 1000 fps in glx gears
[13:56] <sigma_123> is that a bad thing?
[13:59] <rinaldi_> anyone running linux mce on kubunu 7.04? its just im having installation issues and noone is answering in #linuxmce
[14:00] <sigma_123> isnt that software a bit buggy?
[14:02] <rinaldi_> sigma_123: whats this regarding?, my problem?
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: kde4 will do fine w/ that.... my computer only gets 120 in glxgears(fullscreen)
[14:03] <sigma_123> yes
[14:03] <rinaldi_> sigma_123: well are there other recomendations for similar software?
[14:03] <sigma_123> i didnt know u can run glx gears in full screen!
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: well.. I just resized the window
[14:04] <sigma_123> mythtv perhaps or mythbuntu?
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> rinaldi_: does it use the standard kubuntu installer?
[14:05] <rinaldi_> i installed a fresh ubuntu 7.04 and then followed the wiki on the site, all went well until i restarted
[14:05] <sigma_123> i thought it was designed for kubuntu
[14:05] <rinaldi_> nosrednaekim: there are two ways of installing, that way and the quick dvd which installs kubuntu and linux mce all in one, i might have to try that one
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> rinaldi_: thats defunately reccomended... I've never heard of this other method
[14:07] <rinaldi_> nosrednaekim: well apparently the quick install is even more buggy than the original way, but il try anyway
[14:07] <jussi01> !variant | rinaldi_
[14:07] <ubotu> rinaldi_: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[14:07] <sigma_123> nosrednaekim: ok this is just depressing. lol. i only get 83fps in fullscreen glx. is that capable of kde 4?
[14:08] <sigma_123> glx gears i mean
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: maybe some minimal effects.
[14:09] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: like transparency.
[14:09] <nosrednaekim> and expose
[14:10] <mith__> hi all!
[14:10] <sigma_123> well i dont plan to actually use any effects on the laptop. wil it run ok with all effects turned off?
[14:10] <mith__> Are there anybody who tried HommV with Cedega?
[14:10] <bazhang> hi mith__
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: it'll run fine, what processor is that?a  low 1.xghz celeron?
[14:11] <tycale> Compiz est pas inclu de base dans kubuntu ?
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[14:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:11] <tycale> Ou plutôt, il faut allé où pour l'activer ?
[14:11] <mith__> hi bazhang
[14:11] <tycale> sorry
[14:12] <tycale> Where can I activer Compiz in Kubuntu ?
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[14:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:12] <tycale> ho, ok
[14:12] <tycale> thanks you
[14:13] <mith__> bazhang: what is the first 3 letters mean in your name?
[14:13] <sigma_123> nosrednaekim: its a intel centrino 1.6ghz
[14:13] <bazhang> mith__: this is a support channel
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: that'l be PLENTY
[14:14] <mith__> oaky i know
[14:14] <mith__> Are there anybody who tried HommV with Cedega?
[14:14] <sigma_123> il be back
[14:16] <tycale> I've got a problem. Look my sysinfo
[14:16] <tycale> Sysinfo for 'tycale-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 1000 MHz (2010 bogomips), , RAM: 1841/2026MB, 138 proc's, 1.44h up
[14:16] <tycale> 1000MHz ?? Oo
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> tycale: frequency scaling.
[14:16] <tycale> Yes, but i'm not at 1000 MHz
[14:16] <tycale> :-'
[14:16] <johey> How can I see the user configured avatars in KDM? I've tried K->System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager->User Image Source->User, but that does not help. I only see the default avatar for all users.
[14:17] <mith__> where are the wine's log files?
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> tycale: Linux scales your processor down when you aren't using it.
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> tycale: start up a game or movie though, and that number will go way up
[14:19] <tycale> ok
[14:19] <Strahlung-Alpha> hi there, i got a problem with amarok. i adde my mp3s to the collection and now i got every mp3 twice. once in the orignial folder and once in a folder created by amarok
[14:19] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: im back, yeah it may be centrino but the graphics are still hopeless! i get some jerking when navigating around, however movies and dvds play fine
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: anything that runs kde3 will run kde4... thats pretty much the line.
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> Strahlung-Alpha: thats weird,might want to talk to #amarok about that
[14:21] <Strahlung-Alpha> ok, thanks.
[14:21] <Hamra> how much approximatly do i need to download to get KDE4?
[14:21] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: fair enough. do you know a website where i can get updates on status of development of the opensource ati driver?
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> Hamra: probably about 200-300MB
[14:22] <mith__> Are there anybody who tried Heroes of might and magic V with Cedega?
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: phoronix.org
[14:22] <jussi01> mith__: there is a native linux version of 3 - possibly of 5?
[14:23] <sigma_> thanks
[14:23] <mith__> I have tried with 6.0.3 and 5.2.9
[14:24] <Dr_willis> mith__,  with a lot of games - i find i need a 'nocd' crack for them to work right with wine.
[14:24] <mith__> the menu starts everything looks like ok...but when i start a reaal game it exits
[14:25] <Hamra> thnx
[14:25] <mith__> Dr_willis: it's starts so i don't know what's the problem, when i tried to run it from terminal...It says:
[14:25] <mith__> No arguments found, but required
[14:25] <mith__> wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger..
[14:25] <Dr_willis> sounds like wine just 'crashed' :)
[14:26] <Dr_willis> May want to check the wine app database.
[14:26] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[14:26] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[14:26] <Hamra> i guess i'll have to wait till it comes by default with kubuntu, taht would be in automn right? i heard Hardy won't be using kde 4?
[14:27] <jussi01> Hamra: hardy will include the choice for kde4
[14:27] <giuseppe> HI,  how can I set my konqueror to surf on internet?
[14:27] <mith__> im searching now :D
[14:28] <sigma_> jussi01: will that choice be on the live cd that canonical sends via shipit?
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: do to recent developments, kde4 is going to be the focus of Hardy..
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> sorry, that was for Hamra
[14:30] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: recent developments?
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: mmhm
[14:31] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: yes, I know - however kde3 will sttill be on the disk also
[14:31] <bazhang> sooper sekrit
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: separate disk
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> bazhang: state sekrit
[14:32] <jpatrick> sigma_: shipit will have kde4
[14:32] <Hamra> :D
[14:32] <jussi01> sigma_: go read nixternals blog
[14:32] <bazhang> nosrednaekim: haha
[14:32] <jpatrick> sigma_: iirc
[14:32] <bazhang> !nixternal | sigma_
[14:32] <ubotu> sigma_: Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[14:33] <giuseppe> is there anyone can help me? :)
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> haha
[14:33] <sigma_> lol
[14:33] <jussi01> !ask | giuseppe
[14:33] <ubotu> giuseppe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:33] <bazhang> ask away giuseppe
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: and the problem is...
[14:33] <giuseppe> jussi: I have problem on surfing on internet
[14:34] <giuseppe> well, I'm not able to see any web page
[14:34] <giuseppe> I'm only able to use this IRC service
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: can you ping google? "ping www.google.com"
[14:34] <jussi01> !tab | giuseppe
[14:34] <giuseppe> If I run ping www.google.com
[14:34] <ubotu> giuseppe: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:35] <giuseppe> i have trasmitted bytes
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: ok... do you use wireless?
[14:35] <giuseppe> jussi01: but for other web pages, all data are lost
[14:35] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: I use my mobile phone
[14:36] <giuseppe> ubotu: thank a lot for tab key :)
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: I see, kill knetworkmanager.
[14:37] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: how can I do it?
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: on the taskbar, there is a little icon for it... find it, right click on it, and click close
[14:39] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: done... and now
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> and now...
[14:40] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: grande!!!! you were right!!!!!
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: :D
[14:40] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: GREAT GREAT!!!! but what does it mean?
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: it means stupid knetworkmanager thought it was too smart and told all other kde apps that it wasn't connected to the internet, and couldn't detect that you simply by-passed it.
[14:41] <Dr_willis> The Joys of 'user friendly' apps :)
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> ya... that has got to be mymomst hated "feature"
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> *my most
[14:41]  * Dr_willis is reminded of IE saying its 'off line' all the time.
[14:42]  * Dr_willis is reminded of Firefox not wanting to run more then 1 instance...
[14:42]  * Dr_willis shuts up now.
[14:42] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: ok, I see... thanks thanks a lot, really! It was long time I tried to solve it! THANKS!!!!
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: no problem...
[14:43] <bazhang> yay!
[14:43] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well, now I wanna solve another little problem about mp3 files
[14:43] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: I'm using Kubuntu 7.10
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: mmhm, and it is..
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: hope thats not the problem ;)
[14:44] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: and I know that for licence problems, it's not able to reproduce them
[14:45] <Dr_willis> !skype
[14:45] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: you can if you want..
[14:46] <jussi01> !mp3 | giuseppe
[14:46] <ubotu> giuseppe: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:47] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: when I run amarok it says: install mp3
[14:47] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: I say yes
[14:47] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: but nothing
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: you need to install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: and possibly enable the restricted repository
[14:47] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: correct, but how can I do it?
[14:48] <giuseppe> jussi01: what is "!mp3 giuseppe"???
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: on the command line, run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: thats a bot command, to give the tip that ubotu gave just following that
[14:49] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: done, but I read: impossible to find kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:49] <MaximLevitsky> Hi
[14:50] <MaximLevitsky> I updated now to hardy helon
[14:50] <MaximLevitsky> The system
[14:50] <MaximLevitsky> And I have small, but unpleasent problem
[14:50] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: what does it means???
[14:50] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: ah ok... go into adept, go tot he "adept"menu, click "manage repositories" and enable all of them. then click the "reload" button on the main window
[14:50] <MaximLevitsky> Actually this problem was partially present in gutsy too
[14:51] <jussi01> MaximLevitsky: #ubuntu+1 for hardy issues :)
[14:51] <MaximLevitsky> All gtk programs show up some default, and qute unpleasent widget style
[14:51] <nosrednaekim> MaximLevitsky: install the qt-gtk themeing....
[14:51] <MaximLevitsky> I use kubuntu, but still has to use few gtk programs
[14:51] <sourcemaker> can I install the googleearth package or is this a spyware software?
[14:52] <jussi01> !medibuntu | sourcemaker
[14:52] <ubotu> sourcemaker: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:52] <MaximLevitsky> This problem was present in gutsy too :-)
[14:52] <MaximLevitsky> And I did install gtk-qt theme
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> MaximLevitsky: or you can go into kcontrol (just run that) and find the gtk theme configuration
[14:53] <MaximLevitsky> Some programs were ok there, and some weren't
[14:53] <MaximLevitsky> I did that
[14:54] <MaximLevitsky> Nothing helps
[14:54] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: it's downloading many packages... I'm waiting for
[14:54] <MaximLevitsky> I even installed gnome-control-center
[14:54] <MaximLevitsky> And set gtk theme there
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: do you have slow internet?
[14:54] <giuseppe> like first generation ADSL
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> MaximLevitsky: are these apps that look bad run with "kdesudo" do ALL gtk apps look bad? and in addition, are you using kde4?
[14:55] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: like first generation ADSL, why?
[14:55] <MaximLevitsky> And I got funny results: the program itself that change the theme got new widget style, but others don't
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: oh.,. ok
[14:55] <MaximLevitsky> KDE, and promlem exists on both nrma and root apps
[14:55] <MaximLevitsky> s/promlem/problem
[14:56] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: just wondering. if you were on dial-up it could take a while
[14:57] <Dr_willis> Hmm... ok.. which of the 4 conectors on the back is my mic.. heh.. anyone else ever have that problem reaching around trying to find the right port
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: pink I think
[14:57] <Dr_willis> I think all of mine are 'gold' :)  lets see....
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> oh.... thats helpful
[14:59] <Dr_willis> aha.. once i got a light back there.. they had color stripes  around the ports.
[15:00] <Dr_willis> Trying to get Skype Going.
[15:00] <Dr_willis> it aint recording. :(
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> MaximLevitsky: yeah, I have no clue,
[15:01] <rothchild> Dr_willis: is the input enabled in kmix
[15:01] <Dr_willis> Thats what im chcking now. :)
[15:02] <Dr_willis> Got an audigy 2zs i got so many sliders and switches it spans both monitors
[15:02] <andreas_> hello i have a quuestion
[15:02] <Dr_willis> aha.. Input. Mic. Slider was all the way down
[15:02] <andreas_> i have installed an application
[15:02] <andreas_> but i don't know how to uninstall  it
[15:03] <andreas_> so how do i go about it?
[15:03] <Dr_willis> then on output - i need to slide the mic all the way down.. so i dont hear myself.
[15:03]  * nosrednaekim goes to test koffice4 if its going into Hardy
[15:03] <Dr_willis> sudoapt-get remove whateverthethingis
[15:03] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove whateverthethingis
[15:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:03] <rothchild> Dr_willis: turn off 'what you hear' if you have that option
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: it says "package not found???? how to fix???"
[15:03] <andreas_> ok i will try it
[15:04] <Dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  whats saying that? check your spelling?
[15:04] <Minnozz> !fonts
[15:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: never mind... it was a joke ;)
[15:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:05] <Dr_willis> apt-get install coffe_its_early
[15:05] <MaximLevitsky> Problem solved :-) :
[15:05] <MaximLevitsky> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gconf: Depends: libgconf11 (>= 1.0.7) but it is not going to be installed         Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installedE: Broken packages
[15:05] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: done, and now what I have to do?
[15:06] <MaximLevitsky> Anyway, will wait for upload on new packages
[15:06] <andreas_> Dr_willis: thanks it worked :)
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: now install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:06] <andreas_> but is there a more graphical way of doing so, because sometimes you won't know what the name of the package is exctly
[15:07] <andreas_> exactly*
[15:07] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: So, I opened adept manager->adept->manage repositories
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe:ok, and enabled all repositories?
[15:07] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: and I check alldownloadable from internet
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> except for source code..
[15:07] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: kubuntu software tab, tight?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes
[15:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. With kmix - the red button at the source.. is red light on ENABLED  or Muted?
[15:08] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well, and now sudo apt -get install...?
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: you have to press the "reload" button in adept first
[15:09] <rothchild> I assume enabled infact looking at kmix again it looks like you should have the red light on and the green off (input enabled output disabled)
[15:09] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well, another problem: impossible obtain /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: are you runing a "apt-get" command anywhere? are you running two windows of adept?
[15:11] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: reload button is different from fetch button, right?
[15:11] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes
[15:11] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim:
[15:11] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: done...
[15:12] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: red means "live", "recording", "on".
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: sorry, the label is actually "fetch updates" I was thinking of synaptic...
[15:12] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: nevermind... but same error
[15:12] <jhutchins> !adeptfix
[15:12] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:13] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: ok, close adept, and do what ubotu just said
[15:14] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim:  from shell I have:
[15:14] <giuseppe> E: Impossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:14] <giuseppe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: what command did you just run?
[15:14] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim:
[15:14] <giuseppe> E: Impossibile ottenere il lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:14] <giuseppe> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes, run "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[15:15] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: do you still have adept open?
[15:15] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: yes
[15:16] <nico3dfx> ciao!!
[15:16] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: it say if I wanna kill process 7382
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: you know, adept and "apt-get" are both package managers, you can install restricted-extras from within adept..
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: don't kill it
[15:17] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: not killed
[15:17] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: so I choose "no"?
[15:17] <al-mestar> pls programme kubuntu
[15:17] <DarkJimmy> hello
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes
[15:18] <al-mestar> ello
[15:18] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: so what I have to do?
[15:18] <al-mestar> hello
[15:18] <al-mestar> hi
[15:18] <al-mestar> hi
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: search for "kubuntu-restricted-extras" in adept, then install there.
[15:18] <al-mestar> i want au LUNIX program
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> al-mestar: to do what?
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> hi DarkJimmy
[15:19] <al-mestar> any one
[15:19] <al-mestar> miusic
[15:19] <al-mestar> divx
[15:19] <al-mestar> MP3
[15:19] <al-mestar> ...
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> al-mestar: install the divx codecs
[15:19] <nico3dfx> is there an italian channel?
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> !it
[15:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:20] <giuseppe> nico3dfx: ciao nico
[15:20] <romunov> how can i give write permissions to all users of a certain directory, its files nad subfolders?
[15:20] <romunov> chmod +something something?
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> romunov: itseasy in konqeuror, right click on the folder, properties, permissions
[15:21] <romunov> it's greyed out (in dolphin)
[15:21] <DarkJimmy> got this problem after reinstalling kubuntu, adept updater crashes when applying updates :<
[15:21] <rothchild> romunov: is it a system folder?
[15:22] <romunov> no
[15:22] <romunov> it's a mounted hard drive
[15:22] <romunov> that i hooked up after i reinstalled kubuntu
[15:22] <romunov> and now the permissions are all fuzzy
[15:22] <nosrednaekim> romunov: run "kdesudo dolphin"
[15:22] <nosrednaekim> DarkJimmy: you can update on the command line "sudo apt-get update"
[15:23] <Dr_willis> this is a ext2/3 filesystem external drive>
[15:23] <Dr_willis> ?
[15:23] <rothchild> sorry OTish but are people actually using dolphin? I ditched it almost immediately
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> rothchild: i'm on KDE4, so yes the kde4 dolpin rocks.
[15:24] <romunov> Dr_willis: : it's a fat32 internal hd
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> but the kde3 dolphin is terrible
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> romunov: FAT doesn't have permissions.
[15:24] <Dr_willis> use the umask/uid options in fstab to 'fake' the permissions
[15:24] <romunov> well, it worked yesterday :D
[15:24] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well, now when I try to open adept manager
[15:24] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: it says: another process in using it
[15:24] <romunov> Dr_willis: can you decimate that statement? fstab? :>
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: do you have adept manager already running?
[15:24] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: sorry, but what can I do?
[15:25] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well I closed it...
[15:25] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[15:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[15:25] <Dr_willis> !fat32
[15:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[15:25] <romunov> i tried to open the directory "as root", but it will tell me that i don't have enough permission to change the permissions
[15:25] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: can I kill it from shell?
[15:25] <romunov> Dr_willis: thanks
[15:25] <Dr_willis> Opening a directory is not changing the permissions
[15:25] <rothchild> nosrednaekim: does it have tabs and a terminal like konqueror?
[15:26] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes.... "sudo killall adept_manager"
[15:26] <nosrednaekim> rothchild: terminal, yes. tabs, no. split screen, yes.
[15:27] <warlock_x64> hi
[15:27] <warlock_x64> ello ppl
[15:27] <warlock_x64> need some help here plz
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> hey warlock_x64
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem
[15:28] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well, I selected it and push on install request
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: and...
[15:28] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: then, Apply changes
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> yes
[15:28] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: and now it's waiting for headers
[15:28] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: right?
[15:29] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: but it seems it's waiting for...don't know what
[15:29] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: I guess...
[15:29] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: well well
[15:29] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: now it's downloading
[15:29] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: :)
[15:30] <rothchild> Dr_willis: did you get your mic working?
[15:31] <Dr_willis> Trying to get it working under kde first. I think skype may be the isssue. :)
[15:31] <Dr_willis> I can hear my own voice echo now...
[15:31] <Dr_willis> but not recording it.
[15:31] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: sorry... do u know if it' big package?
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: shouldn;t be
[15:31] <rothchild> what are you trying to record with?
[15:31] <andreas> hello i have a question. what  does it mean when a file ends with .sh?
[15:32] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks... now I'll be waiting for :-)
[15:32] <nosrednaekim> andreas: its a shell script
[15:32] <andreas> a shell script?
[15:32] <romunov> there's gotta be an easier way to change permissions :D
[15:32] <andreas> not a programm just a shell script?
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> andreas: a series of shell commands that are run when you run the file
[15:33] <andreas> hm...
[15:33] <andreas> ok now i get it
[15:34] <andreas> so does the later commands in that file count on the previous one?
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> andreas: they CAN
[15:35] <andreas> ok thanks...
[15:35] <BluesKaj> interesting , I compiled FF 3 Beta 2 , but there are no configure or make files and the only way to launch the browser is from with the shell or run the shellscript from the folder . There are no icons available for the desktop, unless I setup a symlink , which to me is a pita :(
[15:35] <Dr_willis> heh - got that going.. Now i need to record the grandbaby saying "Grandma! Answer the Phone!" so she can have a ringtone of the kid for her phone. :P
[15:35] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: did you make insatall?
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you got the precomiled binary
[15:35] <BluesKaj> yup, jhutchins
[15:35] <Dr_willis> romunov,  unmount the filesystem. put the proper optuions in fstab. remount it.
[15:36] <rothchild> Dr_willis: you need the 'capture' channel enabled in kmix too
[15:36] <BluesKaj> it's a tarfile
[15:36] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Looks like you need to build a deb that creates/installs menu entries, desktop icons, and file associations.
[15:36] <andreas> nosrednaekim: what is the relevant of .exe files in windows for linux?
[15:36] <Dr_willis> andreas,  chmod +x whatever  ----> its now an executable
[15:36] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: That doesn't mean anything.  I can make a tarball out of a deb.
[15:37] <andreas> i don't get it
[15:37] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, hmm, never got my feet wet on building a deb
[15:37] <jhutchins> andreas: or sh <file> and it'll run.
[15:37] <nosrednaekim> andreas: there is no direct corrollary.... but .sh and .run come close in most respects
[15:37] <jhutchins> .sh & .bat maybe.
[15:37] <andreas> if a make a C programm and compile and link it, what is the result i will get?
[15:38] <andreas> In windows is a .exe
[15:38] <andreas> in linux?
[15:38] <jpatrick> andreas: same, a binary
[15:38] <jhutchins> andreas: Persumably it's a binary executable with whatever name you choose to give it.
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> andreas: i'm not a C guy... but I THINK you get a file with no suffix
[15:38] <jhutchins> andreas: Linux doesn't care about extensions, although it can use them.
[15:38] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Depends entirely what name you specify.
[15:38] <k4ever> hi all, i just tried kubuntu last night.  i like the distro.  my question is how do you guys get the icons to throb (expand) when you click on them?
[15:38] <andreas> but a binary is just a .o object
[15:39] <jhutchins> k4ever: desktop configuration/effects.
[15:39] <andreas> ok so say i got just a file with now extension
[15:39] <jpatrick> andreas: gcc -o <nameYouWantForExe> source.c
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> k4ever: its a standard kde effect
[15:39] <jhutchins> andreas: binary executable - not binary object file.
[15:39] <andreas> to run it i just click on it
[15:39] <andreas> ?
[15:39] <jhutchins> andreas: You'll probably have to make it executable (chmod +x).
[15:39] <jpatrick> andreas: from terminal: ./nameOfExe
[15:40] <andreas> jhutchins: but gcc made it executable for me
[15:40] <andreas> so why we have chmod?
[15:40] <jhutchins> andreas: How nice.  Go for it.
[15:40] <k4ever> jhutchins: where do i find it in kcontrol?
[15:40] <jhutchins> andreas: to change the mode of a file.
[15:40] <osacie> havin probz with via S3 Unichrome drivers
[15:41] <jhutchins> k4ever: I just right click the desktop.
[15:41] <jhutchins> l8r, bkfst.
[15:41] <jpatrick> andreas: just run it: ./exe
[15:42] <andreas> ok so in linux programs don't have specific extension like in windows
[15:42] <andreas> right?
[15:42] <osacie> linux doesnt use exe files
[15:42] <andreas> yeah a program can have any extension you want
[15:43] <jpatrick> andreas: yep
[15:44] <andreas> and is there a good reason why you would want to make a .sh file?
[15:44] <k4ever> jhutchins:  i don't see an "effects" option when i right click on the desktop.
[15:44] <kgfix> andreas: yeah.. Linux identifies files by its attributes and contents rather than their extensions unlike windows, that first needs the correct extension to work at all..
[15:44] <romunov> my fstab reads like so: /dev/hda1 /data auto user,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:44] <andreas> kgfix: that makes things cleaner thx :)
[15:44] <romunov> am i missing something, but the option "user" should allow the mounted point to be read by everyone?
[15:45] <Dr_willis> andreas,  linux is Case Se3nestive and in most cases does not need 'extensions'
[15:45] <romunov> this is not my case
[15:45] <romunov> i still cna't access it
[15:45] <Dr_willis> romunov,  thjats not a proper fstab entry. Im suprised its even mounting
[15:45] <romunov> it read "nouser" - i changed it to user
[15:45] <andreas> ok... thanks guys :)
[15:46] <kgfix> andreas: try removing extensions from some jpeg or png images, Linux would still identify them correctly as jpeg and png images respectively :)
[15:46] <romunov> and you are right, i can't see the directory structure
[15:46] <jpatrick> romunov: use Filesystem's in System Settings for fstab editing
[15:46] <andreas> ok thx bye now
[15:47] <Dr_willis> romunov,  /dev/hda1 /mnt/filesystem -t vfat  uid=1000,gid=100 0 0
[15:47] <Dr_willis> would mount it at boot. for a specific user.
[15:48] <romunov> Dr_willis: will mount it in /mnt/filesystem? i would like to to be /data...
[15:48] <Dr_willis> romunov,  im stealing soem exaplpes i googled from --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)
[15:48] <Dr_willis> romunov,  then change it. :) this is linux...
[15:48] <Dr_willis> change what you want.
[15:48] <Dr_willis> the mount point directory MUST MUST exist beforhand..
[15:49] <romunov> mkay, let's try Dr_willis' order
[15:49] <Dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/  has some good examples also.
[15:50] <marco__> hi, is it normal that I go in system settings -> network settings, admin mode, change gateway and dns, then I exit (there is no "save" or "appy" enabled button) then everything returns to the badly configured setup
[15:50] <marco__> I had to manually edit /etc files related with networking
[15:50] <DarkJimmy> that happens to me too
[15:51] <marco__> DarkJimmy: very frustrating, isn't it? fortunatly I'm enough expert to do by hand, but since I often suggest kubuntu to novice, I'm scared
[15:52] <BluesKaj> so where can I find a titorial for building .deb files which will install specifically on (k)ubuntu , not debain ?
[15:52] <marco__> and seems something that should have been fixed asap, while is in this 8.04 apha too
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> marco__: it doesn't save it? always worked for me
[15:52] <BluesKaj> err tutorial
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ask on #ubuntu-motu
[15:52] <Dr_willis> I recall some service changing those networking files on me ages ago..
[15:52] <jpatrick> !packguide | BluesKaj
[15:52] <BluesKaj> ok nosrednaekim , thx
[15:52] <Dr_willis> but i forget what was doing it.
[15:52] <DarkJimmy> my gateway doesn't get saved and I can't update..
[15:52] <marco__> nosrednaekim: no, it does
[15:52] <ubotu> BluesKaj: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[15:52] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: or read the logs at KubuntuTutorialsDay
[15:54] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: sorry, downloading is around 50%... but if I should disconnect now... next time I will only download remaining part or from beginning?
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> remaining part.... this is odd though thats downloading all of that.... must be alot of updates.
[15:55] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: yeah... a lot of updates
[15:55] <marco__> what should I install to manage my wifi connection?
[15:56] <Dr_willis> depends on your wireless card also marco__
[15:56] <marco__> would love to have something that simplifies the ethernet - wifi usage, like in windows where multiple "profiles" are allowed and automatically managed
[15:56] <Dr_willis> I can never get that working under windows either. :)
[15:57] <marco__> oh, I see... I remember that wireless is hard to support
[15:57] <kgfix> DarkJimmy: remove the gateway entirely, then Apply, might work! worked for me. :)
[15:57] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: so, downloades package should be downloaded and not necessary to re-download... right?
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> giuseppe: yes.
[15:58] <giuseppe> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks :)
[16:00] <jhutchins> What linux uses to identify a file is the "magic word" the first data word of a file.  It also allows file associations, but that's arbitrary.  Traditionally, linux executables don't have extensions.
[16:01] <jhutchins> .sh should specifically be a script meant to run in the sh shell (as opposed to bash, dash, and a dozen other shells).
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> all of which are capable of running .sh's though
[16:01] <DarkJimmy> kgfix: wth it works?
[16:01] <jhutchins> What really determines what it runs in though is the opening characters "#! /bin/sh".
[16:02] <kgfix> DarkJimmy: well you using kubuntu? and trying to apply the network settings?
[16:02] <jhutchins> ...or perhaps "#! /bin/bash" or even "#! /usr/bin/perl"
[16:03] <hungrymouse> how can i get the LaTeX plugin for Kopete to work? currently it makes kopete hang indefinitely when it tries to parse LaTeX.
[16:03] <romunov> Dr_willis: i've inserted the line you suggested, and i get this message when i try to remount: mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[16:03] <kgfix> DarkJimmy: whats the default gateway addr shown in your settings?
[16:03] <DarkJimmy> blank
[16:03] <DarkJimmy> but it's downloading updates now
[16:04] <kgfix> ok..
[16:04] <kgfix> check when you are done with the download and when you changed some settings..
[16:05] <DarkJimmy> I've already destroyed two kubuntu installations in less than 24 hours, I think I should leave it be
[16:09] <hungrymouse> Darkjimmy, join the club. i managed 3 in my first 24 hours ><
[16:11] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: new kubuntu user?
[16:11] <Hamra> !kde4
[16:11] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[16:12] <Hamra> !info kde4
[16:12] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in gutsy
[16:12] <DarkJimmy> bazhang: yes
[16:13] <Hamra> can someone point me to a page with a step-by-step or detailed intructions on how to install kde4?
[16:13] <DarkJimmy> hungrymouse: I'm still on time for a third too
[16:13] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: dont give up hope; when I started a year ago, I went through a bunch of Suse installs (forgot the number) :}
[16:13] <hungrymouse> Darkjimmy, what are you actually trying to DO?
[16:13] <DarkJimmy> install kubuntu, update it, and USE IT
[16:14] <DarkJimmy> linux hates me
[16:15] <hungrymouse> DarkJimmy, you've obviously managed to get internet. so adept should have found a load of updates you need, and stuck a thing in your system tray about it.
[16:15] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: not so serious--the first few weeks are rough for *everybody*
[16:15] <hungrymouse> DarkJimmy, have you let it download those?
[16:15] <DarkJimmy> its upgrading the lot
[16:16] <DarkJimmy> I still have the laptop display problem tho
[16:16] <kgfix> hey, does adept resume downloads like apt-get does?
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> kgfix: yes
[16:17] <gaps> hi peoples
[16:17] <kgfix> nosrednaekim: does it require some arguments to do so?
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> kgfix: does so automatically
[16:17] <kgfix> asking because mine didn't resume by default!
[16:17] <kgfix> so i started using apt-get instead
[16:18] <nosrednaekim> kgfix: huh, odd, maybe you unchecked that setting adept_manager
[16:18] <kgfix> well i tried the front-end that comes with Kubuntu Gutsy
[16:18] <kgfix> Didn't change any settings. I am sure.
[16:19] <benpicco> may reiserfs mess with my data? I noticed some strage artifacts in music files I ripped some month ago - so i´m a little concerned...
[16:19] <marco__> if I install kde4 metapackage, will I be able to choose what kde use at login?
[16:20] <nosrednaekim> marco__: yes
[16:20] <marco__> cool, thanks
[16:20] <joshua> hello all
[16:21] <gaps> hello
[16:21] <kreger> hi
[16:21] <gaps> german people here
[16:21] <kreger> jup
[16:21] <bazhang> !de
[16:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:21] <gaps> ah sehr gut
[16:21] <kreger> :-)
[16:21] <joshua> : )
[16:22] <gaps> das ist immer gut, probleme hab ich "momentan keine" mein kubuntu läuft auch erst s std
[16:22] <gaps> 2 std
[16:22] <kreger> joa meins auch :-D
[16:22] <bazhang> guys, this is an English channel
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[16:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[16:23] <Hamra> !de | gaps
[16:23] <ubotu> gaps: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:23] <gaps> treiber loadet gerade
[16:23] <kreger> where?
[16:23] <gaps> ich habs gecheckt
[16:23] <jhutchins> gaps: Not enough of us speak germen here.
[16:23] <gaps> i understand you
[16:24] <jhutchins> Which is good of you, but my german is old and rusty, and to the rest here it's just noise.
[16:24] <gaps> its ok! im speack english, too!
[16:24] <jhutchins> @kubuntu-de
[16:24] <jhutchins> gaps: Great.  60 people in the german channel, though, you're very welcome there as well.
[16:24] <marco__> adept tells  me that kde4 "Breaks", but don't understand what or why... is adept the same as aptitude? I mean, do they use the same index base so I can safely use one or the other?
[16:25] <marco__> I feel more confortable with command line for system administration...
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> marco__: did you add the correct repositories?
[16:25] <marco__> nosrednaekim: I'm using the default ones that come with 8.04... (italian mirror, of course)
[16:27] <gaps> cu
[16:28] <marco__> ok, better fix wireless connection installation first :)
[16:29] <marco__> this is my first laptop.. I do hate laptops and their keyboard, home that I will  become used to it soon
[16:30] <marco__> any chance to become root? I'm very irritated by the sudo thing
[16:30] <benpicco> sudo -s
[16:30] <onishidato> marco__: you can't be root
[16:31] <kgfix> marco__: su -
[16:31] <onishidato> marco__: it's safer for you
[16:31] <marco__> thanks a lot benpicco!
[16:31] <jhutchins> !sudo | marco__
[16:31] <ubotu> marco__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:31] <jhutchins> !kdesu | marco
[16:31] <ubotu> marco: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[16:31] <jhutchins> marco__: It takes some getting used to, but it's a good system.
[16:32] <marco__> jhutchins: good for normal usage, not at the beginning setup phase of a new pc
[16:32] <jhutchins> marco__: There are ways to get around it, but try getting used to it first.
[16:32] <marco__> I have to run a lot of commands / edit config with root privileges now
[16:32] <jhutchins> marco__: that first link will tell you the options.
[16:32] <marco__> thanks a lot
[16:32] <onishidato> hey guys, i can't open the device option of kopete, when i try to reach it, kopete will become frozen. how can i fix this?
[16:34] <jhutchins> onishidato: Use pidgin instead?
[16:35] <onishidato> i use kopete to use webcam
[16:35] <onishidato> pidgin doesn't hvae
[16:35] <onishidato> :)
[16:36] <jhutchins> !webcam | onishidato
[16:36] <ubotu> onishidato: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:36] <jhutchins> onishidato: Might be good to check those out first, make sure it's working.
[16:38] <DarkJimmy> by any chance, does anyone know if dell has an irc channel?
[16:38] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: if they do, they wont be very helpful :]
[16:38] <bazhang> !irc | DarkJimmy
[16:38] <ubotu> DarkJimmy: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[16:38] <Lynoure> I'm pretty sure there is no official irc channel for Dell.
[16:39] <DarkJimmy> I hate these money-hungry corporations..
[16:40] <Lynoure> I would not do official support on irc either, for technical reasons.
[16:41] <Lynoure> and my 'corporation' is just 1 person entrepreneurship. :)
[16:42] <bazhang> haha
[16:45] <DarkJimmy> woot! beneath a steel sky!!
[16:46] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: get dosbox
[16:46] <DarkJimmy> bazhang: dosbox is teh suck
[16:46] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: zsnes
[16:47] <DarkJimmy> vmware with windows 3.1 ftw!
[16:47] <DarkJimmy> *3.11
[16:48] <marco__> AR5418 wifi chipset, wondering if the "macc info" that I find in google can be safely followed... anyone here that has the same chipset, and can address me to the right module?
[16:51] <marco__> mmm looks like is not very "free software friendly" or stable :(
[16:53] <Pennycook> Hey guys, is there any graphical utility for dealing with drive formats?  I've got an NTFS drive (currently mounted and left over from when I switched to Kubu from Windows) and I'm looking to format it in ext3
[16:54] <kingoftheroots> partitionmagich
[16:54] <bazhang> !parted
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <kingoftheroots> !qpart
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qpart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:55] <bazhang> !info qtparted
[16:55] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[16:55] <bazhang> Pennycook: see above
[16:55] <Pennycook> Thanks
[16:56] <bazhang> no worries
[16:58] <zismuc> spanish?
[16:58] <zismuc> Hola
[16:58] <zismuc> español
[16:58] <bazhang> !es
[16:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:02] <Pennycook> Okay, that didn't go so well
[17:05] <Fredsky> Any one know how I can increase the size of fonts on KDE?
[17:05] <kingoftheroots> in kcontrol
[17:05] <benpicco_> in System Settings->Appeance
[17:06] <Fredsky> That works for the applications but just a little for KDE
[17:07] <Fredsky> The apps are fine it's kde that is to small to read
[17:07] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. the 6 yr old. just tossed the wii contrller behind the tv...
[17:07] <Dr_willis> People donbt relize you DONT have to swing hard with the things...
[17:07] <Pennycook> qtparted doesn't seem to be doing anything; if I click "format" it claims to have done it, but nothing happens
[17:08] <Dr_willis> Pennycook,  theres an apply/do the tasks button i belibve
[17:08] <Dr_willis> you set up th layout how ya want.. hit the apply, and it does all the needed tasks.
[17:09] <Pennycook> Okay, thanks
[17:09] <Dr_willis> its called 'commit' :) for some.. well.. reason
[17:09] <DarkJimmy> gah! adept keeps crashing!
[17:10] <Dr_willis> That way you can undo/quit and not trash the drive by mistake
[17:10] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: use the command line instead--much easier
[17:10] <DarkJimmy> how do I use the command line?
[17:10] <kingoftheroots> lol
[17:11] <Dr_willis> apt-get install abs-guide
[17:11] <jussi01> !terminal
[17:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:11] <Dr_willis> or similer :) is how ya use the command line to install things
[17:11] <jussi01> DarkJimmy: ^
[17:11] <Dr_willis> with a sudo of course. :)
[17:11] <DarkJimmy> yeah, what I meant is what do I type
[17:12] <bazhang> DarkJimmy: to install something sudo apt-get install packagename to update sudo apt-get update to upgrade sudo apt-get upgrade; the advantage to this is if there is a problem you can read the error messages
[17:12] <kingoftheroots> !apt
[17:12] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[17:13] <DarkJimmy> ok thanks
[17:13] <bazhang> no worries
[17:14] <kirk_> hey
[17:14] <Pennycook> Dr_willis: I did as you said, and qtparted reported it was completed successfully... But the Disk & Filesystems menu still reports it as being NTFS
[17:15] <Pennycook> Or will it not have recognised the change?
[17:15] <Dr_willis> Pennycook,  you may need to reboot for the kernel to see the changes
[17:15] <Dr_willis> do a  'sudo fdisk -l' perhaps  to see what the disks are..
[17:16] <ubunturos> I can't get a user defined API to run in Java, even after specifying the classpath. (Asked in ##java - no response)
[17:16] <Pennycook> Oh, wait, just checked terminal output, it says "Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled"
[17:16] <Pennycook> And fdisk says it's NTFS too
[17:16] <Dr_willis> what are you trying to do exactly?
[17:17] <Pennycook> This was a Windows PC and I installed Kubu onto it.  Now I'm trying to convert all the NTFS drives to ext3 ones.
[17:17] <kirk_> could anyone enlighten me on how to make a external usb hard drive show up automatically when i boot up the system. i'm running kubuntu 7.10
[17:17] <bazhang> kirk_: what format?
[17:18] <kirk_> ext3
[17:18] <LjL> uhm, didn't KTorrent have a display where you could see a graph of the completed parts of a torrent, and a list of files with their completion status? am i completely confused?
[17:18] <Dr_willis> Theres plugins for ktorrent that are not enabled by default
[17:19] <LjL> Dr_willis: oh. that was it. suppose it was enabled by default in some older release... or i had enabled it but didn't remember :)
[17:20] <Downix> man, porting is harder than I thought
[17:20] <Pennycook> Dr_willis: Any suggestions?  Running qtparted again brings up the same error in the terminal as it opens
[17:20] <DarkJimmy> do the packages automatically create links int he K menu, or it depends of the package?
[17:21] <jussi01> DarkJimmy: it depends on the package - most do,but some dont
[17:21] <Pennycook> Oh no, only upon clicking sdc1
[17:21] <jussi01> DarkJimmy: which package are you referring to?
[17:22] <kirk_> could anyone enlighten me on how to make a external usb hard drive (ext3) show up automatically when i boot up the system. i'm running kubuntu 7.10
[17:23] <jussi01> kirk_: how do you mount it now?
[17:23] <kingoftheroots> kirk_, mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdxy
[17:23] <linuxmce> HALP!
[17:23] <Pennycook> Is there any easier way to create one big partition out of sdc and make sure it's ext3?
[17:23] <jussi01> linuxmce: ??
[17:23] <linuxmce> I have a hagpauge (sp?) 150 pvr doesn't seem to be recognized
[17:24] <kingoftheroots> erm
[17:24] <jussi01> linuxmce: on kubuntu?
[17:24] <linuxmce> ees borked!
[17:24] <linuxmce> y3p
[17:24] <linuxmce> yep
[17:24] <kirk_> it isnt mounted now. i just upgraded to 7.10
[17:24] <wolf0129> cannot get online on other box. know it is trying to access the internet but is not succeeding
[17:24] <wolf0129> windows tower is displaying message ip conflict
[17:25] <Dr_willis> i got a Hauppage 150 - works good with MythTV. You do need to configure the Mythtv to use the card. It dosent auto-see it , and has the wrong thing in one of the pull down menus.
[17:25] <Dr_willis> byeee
[17:25] <linuxmce> hmm
[17:25] <kirk_> it used to be something in the fstab i think.... some line u put in there to make it automount
[17:26] <wolf0129> can some one help me
[17:27] <bazhang> wolf0129: what system on the other box?
[17:27] <wolf0129> kubuntu
[17:27] <jussi01> !fstab | kirk_
[17:27] <ubotu> kirk_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[17:27] <bazhang> wolf0129: wired or wireless?
[17:27] <wolf0129> wired
[17:28] <bazhang> wolf0129: can you access the machine now?
[17:28] <wolf0129> no but i have information in front of me
[17:28] <wolf0129> i know it is a ip settin
[17:29] <wolf0129> windows recognises the IP conflict
[17:29] <DarkJimmy> :< this still happens http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1513/22122007002cv2.jpg
[17:29] <wolf0129> windows tower recognizes the IP conflict
[17:29] <bazhang> wolf0129: you talking to me? I may miss it if you dont use my nick in your response as I am in other channels
[17:30] <wolf0129> bazhang i know that it is a problem in the IP settings
[17:30] <kingoftheroots> set new ip
[17:30] <bazhang> wolf0129: if you know then why do you ask? It may be something else
[17:31] <mauri> how to have a clean 7.10
[17:31] <wolf0129> bazhang The windows tower displays an IP conflict
[17:31] <florianr> I am burning an audio CD with K3B ... But I want an autmatic Gap between each title ... Is that possible with k3b? Perhaps I need a plugin?
[17:31] <mauri> adept still continue to give me eror
[17:32] <bazhang> wolf0129: problem with a windows machine? ask in ##windows; if you can access the machine using ubuntu/kubuntu then it may be fixed here--provided you give enough info
[17:33] <wolf0129> bazhang the kubuntu is where my problem is
[17:33] <anakin_> when i try to rdesktop hostname, i am getting this message saying that local policy does not allow login. checked all the windows configuration i know of, just need to make sure i've not overlooked some rdesktop setting. have I?
[17:33] <bazhang> wolf0129: you have said you know the problem--why ask here?
[17:34] <wolf0129> bazhang because i was hoping some might be able to tell me how to set up the ip so that there is no conflict
[17:34] <wolf0129> bazhang i have the IP info in front of me
[17:34] <DarkJimmy> thanks for the help, bye!
[17:35] <kingoftheroots> wolf0129, dhclient3 eth0
[17:35] <bazhang> wolf0129: if you know the problem then you can fix it; if you want to be sure that is the real problem, then you need access to the machine
[17:36] <wolf0129> bazhang but how can i fix the IP conflict
[17:37] <bazhang> wolf0129: if you want help--I'll say this again--you need access to the machine; no idea otherwise
[17:37] <wolf0129> bazhang thanks
[17:38] <ubuntu_> hi
[17:38] <Pennycook> Okya, kernel reboot fixed my issue, but now I'm not allowed to write to it because it's mounted as root/root.. Is it safe to mount a drive as my user, or would it be better off me creating a folder inside that one that I had write access for?   Grazie!
[17:39] <ubuntu_> like i said - will my system be the same as a stable release once i've apt-get upgraded? or will there be cruft to remove?
[17:39] <bazhang> oh I see
[17:39] <wolf0129> kub^ are you available
[17:40] <bazhang> ubuntu_: do you have a ton of stuff to back up?
[17:40] <ubuntu_> bazhang: no, all my personal stuff is on NFS
[17:41] <althair> Buenas
[17:41] <bazhang> ubuntu_: you should be okay--that is what I did as well, and no problems so far--though some will swear by a clean install :}
[17:41] <althair> hello
[17:41] <bazhang> hi althair
[17:41] <ubuntu_> bazhang: cheers. have you tried kde4 rc2?
[17:41] <kingoftheroots> clean install is prob best
[17:42] <bazhang> ubuntu_: no; waiting for kde4.5 :}
[17:42] <cumulus> Could someone tell me how I can remove gnome and it's programs from my computer? I though the packet was ubuntu-desktop, but it is marked as not installed
[17:42] <kingoftheroots> lol
[17:42] <ubuntu_> cumulus: apt-cache search gnome | cut -d' ' -f 1 | xargs apt-get remove
[17:43] <bazhang> wow
[17:43] <althair> does someone know if selecting processor famili (586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX) in the kernel configurarion is ok to use a Core2 Duo?
[17:43] <ubuntu_> rc2 was screwed up on my machine - titlebars had essence of hung X
[17:44] <ubuntu_> and apt seemed to barf over file collisions
[17:44] <bazhang> althair: 32bit or 64 bit is what you are wanting?
[17:45] <ubuntu_> althair: x86 - prescott afaik
[17:45] <althair> hum... no because i herd about using 64bits with core2, wich arent "real" 64 bits and you can have problems
[17:45] <althair> but I have seen in a webpage how configurate a debian kernel to use a core2
[17:45] <kingoftheroots> althair what kernel.? if i remember 2.6.23-11 has an option only for core duo's.. but 6x86 should work
[17:45] <althair> and you have the option: intel core 2 duo
[17:46] <althair> I am using config-2.6.22-14-generic
[17:46] <jumpkick> is there somewhere to adjust the bass on KDE sound settings?
[17:46] <Pennycook> Anybody?  I've mounted my new ext3 drive at /music, the owner is coming up as root root (as with the ext3 partition I have mounted as /) but I can't seem to write it; how do I enable writing to the drive?
[17:46] <althair> I am surprised cause I havent that option
[17:47] <ubuntu_> Pennycook: man chmod
[17:47] <bazhang> jumpkick for which app?
[17:47] <cumulus> To login as root, it's "su | password" right? =S
[17:47] <althair> and in the webpage says that from 2.6.20 in advance, the kernell has an option for core2 duo
[17:48] <althair> an specific option
[17:48] <Pennycook> ubuntu_: When I do that, the GUI properties window doesn't update.  Or is it not supposed to?  I'm just worried it'll automount as 755 everytime instead of as 777
[17:48] <Downix> Ok, I cannot find which package has sdl in it
[17:49] <ubuntu_> Pennycook: no idea, i don't use the gui
[17:49] <markit2> how on earth can it  be that they have choosen a gray icon for the "apply" button even when is enabled??
[17:50] <Pennycook> ubuntu_: Okay.  If I chmod 777 /dev/sdc1 then, that should work?
[17:50]  * genii pries his eyes open and pours a coffee
[17:51] <kingoftheroots> althair, you should have a kernel with MCORE2 enabled not any of 586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX b|cos they are for amd cpus
[17:52] <Pennycook> Okay, didn't work
[17:53] <althair> and now, what should I do?
[17:53] <althair> install a new kernell? the one for 64bit processors is only for amd
[17:53] <althair> not?
[17:53] <Taipon> someone german here_
[17:54] <Taipon> _
[17:54] <kingoftheroots> althair, zcat /proc/config.gz  |grep MCORE2
[17:54] <kingoftheroots> not set?
[17:55] <Taipon> anyone german here?
[17:55] <althair> kingoftheroots: there are not such file (config.gz) :S
[17:56] <rothchild> !de
[17:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:56] <kingoftheroots> ohk.. you kernel dosent support it then
[17:57] <althair> but when I downloaded the 7.10 kubuntu I only had 2 options, pc (intel x86) or 64(AMD64)
[17:57] <kingoftheroots> intel was your choice then since you got a intel cpu
[17:57] <althair> shall I search for a normal ubuntu kernel?
[17:57] <kingoftheroots> i would build my own
[17:57] <althair> yes, I installed that intel version
[17:57] <kingoftheroots> with make oldconfig
[17:57] <althair> yes
[17:58] <althair> this is what i was doing
[17:58] <althair> but I hadnt found an specific option for core2 duo
[17:58] <kingoftheroots> before make you must edit .config and set MCORE2
[17:58] <althair> only the 586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX
[17:58] <kingoftheroots> in the kernel source dur
[17:59] <kingoftheroots> no thouse are for amd and cyrix cpu's
[18:01] <althair> replacing "# CONFIG_MCORE2 is not set" by "CONFIG_MCORE2=y"?
[18:01] <kingoftheroots> althair, .. get the newest kernel form kenel.org. extract it to /usr/src . cd to that path. run make oldconfig then make gconfig and make nessesary changes. then  make bzImage and make modules ; make modules_istall
[18:02] <althair> ok kingoftheroots, thanks a lot!
[18:04] <markit2> anyone can tell me how to make bluetooth work? dmesg tells that a bluetooth device has been found, but kbluetooth tells that nothing is available as bluetoot interface
[18:05] <markit2> (no bluetooth adapter)
[18:05] <markit2> any idea?
[18:09] <kingoftheroots> turn on you phone :p
[18:11] <markit2> kingoftheroots: seems that is a toshiba problem, and I have to use toothset :(
[18:11] <eshat> what is a good kde programm to make a screencase or to record my desktop ???
[18:11] <eshat> * screencase=screencast
[18:12] <kingoftheroots> hmm. normaly its autodetected with you etc  turn on bluetooth on your phone
[18:12] <kingoftheroots> */with/when
[18:12] <rothchild> markit2:  is kdebluetoothd started?
[18:13] <markit2> rothchild: yes, but I'm googling and seems that toshiba has it disabled by default, and you need toshet to enable it, but I've tried and complains about required kernel toshiba support now
[18:16] <XBehave> what do you need to do a post test?
[18:21] <darx> hi folks, I need to install kde4 rc2. I'm currently running xubuntu. how can i install it? the kde 4 rc2 page at kubuntu says that kde4 rc2 packages are available for kubuntu 7.10. does that mean I'll have to install kubuntu destop before installing kde4?
[18:21] <darx> :-)
[18:21] <darx> anybody home?
[18:21] <jpatrick> darx: installing kde4 directly should be fine
[18:21] <darx> cool
[18:27] <sigma_123> anyone here from south africa?
[18:28] <LjL> !za
[18:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about za - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:28] <LjL> err
[18:28] <sigma_123> huh? wanted to know if anyone can send the kde4 rc2 live cd 2me
[18:29] <sigma_123> dont hav da bandwidth to dload it
[18:29] <LjL> sigma_123: there is a channel #ubuntu-za
[18:30] <sigma_123> ubuntu-za
[18:32] <Jabapyth> Ive got an sd card that says its read-only... the "lock" tab isnt in place, but It still wont let me write. :(. Does anyone know whats wrong?
[18:41] <XBehave> Jabapyth:
[18:41] <XBehave> Jabapyth: what format is the car? it might be mounted wrong
[18:41] <Jabapyth> default....i havnt changed it.
[18:47] <kirk_> hey ppl
[18:48] <kirk_> no media players will play ANY type of video... any suggestions?
[18:48] <Downix> do you have any video codecs installed?
[18:49] <kirk_> i believe
[18:49] <kirk_> the ones off of Automatix
[18:49] <Downix> no idea then
[18:50] <noaxess_kubuntu> !iwl
[18:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:51] <kirk_> this is horriblwe
[18:51] <kirk_> switching to 7.10 was stupid
[18:52] <hydrogen> if you used automatix.. then yes, it was
[18:52] <kirk_> worked fine on 7.04
[18:52] <kirk_> played any media
[18:53] <kirk_> it will play, but the picture is all scrambled up
[18:53] <kirk_> audio works fine
[18:53] <kamilos> Hi guys, I updated to kubuntu 7.10. My notebook multimeda keys (volume up/down) does not work. In 7.4 it worked. Do you know what is wrong?
[18:54] <kirk_> probably the "updated to kubuntu 7.10" part is where u f'd up
[18:55] <hydrogen> kirk_: in your case, automatix is, and never has been, supported, because it does all sorts of bad things
[18:55] <kamilos> maybe.. but it is done... now I need to solve it :(
[18:56] <hydrogen> kamilos: I've not had problems using them in gutsy.. have you checked launchpad to see if there is any bugs reported for your notebook?
[18:56] <kamilos> hydrogen: launchpad... what is it?
[18:57] <kirk_> Ummmmmmm.... it didnt work before i used automatix.
[18:57] <kirk_> which was why i installed the codecs...
[18:57] <hydrogen> !launchpad | kamilos
[18:57] <ubotu> kamilos: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[18:57] <hydrogen> !bugs | kamilos
[18:57] <ubotu> kamilos: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[18:58] <kamilos> thank..  How possible is it to undo a shift-delete?
[19:08] <Jabapyth> Pennycook: very hard....youll probably need costly software
[19:08] <ardchoille> Pennycook: Once a file is really deleted, it's gone.
[19:08] <ardchoille> Pennycook: Daily backups?
[19:08] <Pennycook> So there's no recovery utility in kubu?
[19:16] <chemicalvamp> i need a hand with two things. One setting up a partition table. and the other is a refresher on the command "#grub -install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda"
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: ok.... what about the partition table?
[19:21] <chemicalvamp> well i basicly need a setup like this 100mb boot.. 100gb windows and 60gb backupspace
[19:21] <chemicalvamp> my linux install is on my USB flash drive
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: why do you need a separate /boot? MBR works fine
[19:21] <chemicalvamp> to install grub to
[19:21] <snarkster> could someone point me to an easy manual for installing a different drm?
[19:22] <jussi01> snarkster: drm?
[19:23] <snarkster> yah I have mach64 chipset and I need to get mach64 support to have alittle 3d acceleration support
[19:23] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: you can put grub on the MBR
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> Guys
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> I love the .deb system
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> Seriously
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> It's even easier to use than Windows installers
[19:24] <chemicalvamp> where will menu.lst and all that be kept?
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> There's no stupid license agreements
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> No repetitive hitting of the next button
[19:24] <DarkLegacy> Just, enter password, OK, DONE.
[19:24] <jussi01> snarkster: what does that have to do with drm? (digital right management?)
[19:24] <jussi01> !enter | DarkLegacy
[19:24] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: oh... true... never mind you are right :D
[19:25] <DarkLegacy> Sorry. :(
[19:25] <jussi01> DarkLegacy: :)
[19:25] <DarkLegacy> :)
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: you could have them on your flash drive
[19:25] <snarkster> DRM in linux world is Direct Resolution Management
[19:25] <snarkster> i think
[19:25] <jussi01> snarkster: ahh...
[19:25] <snarkster> 3d support
[19:26] <chemicalvamp> ide like them on my harddrive
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> Direct rendering Management
[19:26] <snarkster> yes thank you I havent had coffey yet.
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: ok, well, thats definately possible
[19:28] <chemicalvamp> yeah i have it set up on my old harddrive.. just got a new one today
[19:29] <romunov> Dr_willis: i found the right setting: /dev/hda7 /mnt/WINME vfat auto,umask=0000 0 0
[19:29] <chemicalvamp> so whats the command for partitioner?
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: grab qtparted
[19:31] <faLUCE> hi. given myfile.wav , how can i split it in part1.wav, part2.wav and part3.wav  (with starting times = 0 seconds for part1, 3 minutes and 5 seconds for part2, 5 minutes for part3) ? thnks
[19:31] <chemicalvamp> nosrednaekim i have it
[19:32] <theunixgeek> How do I install libqt.so.1 on Ubuntu?
[19:32] <snarkster> apt-get install libqt
[19:32] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: run it..
[19:33] <theunixgeek> snarkster: thanks; I'll try that
[19:33] <theunixgeek> snarkster: there's no such thing as libqt.
[19:33] <snarkster> hold please
[19:34] <jussi01> theunixgeek: libqt-mt iirc
[19:34] <theunixgeek> jussi01: sudo apt-get install libqt-mt iirc
[19:34] <theunixgeek> ?
[19:34] <jussi01> theunixgeek: leave the iirc of ;)
[19:34] <jussi01> off*
[19:34] <theunixgeek> ok
[19:35] <nickname00000> hi all
[19:35] <snarkster> im searching to verify in synaptic
[19:35] <theunixgeek> jussi01: doesn't exist
[19:35] <jussi01> theunixgeek: IIRC - if i remember correctly ;)
[19:35] <theunixgeek> jussi01: what's iirc?
[19:35] <jussi01> theunixgeek: ^^
[19:35] <theunixgeek> what?
[19:35] <jussi01> if i remember correctly
[19:35] <theunixgeek> ooh
[19:35] <theunixgeek> ok
[19:35] <messiah> hello
[19:35] <nickname00000> i'd like to try kde 4.0 : what do you suggest me, to download kubuntu 7.10 kde4.0 live cd or kubuntu 8.04 and install kde 4.0 there?
[19:36] <jussi01> !kde4 | nickname00000
[19:36] <ubotu> nickname00000: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[19:36] <messiah> oh... i thought the last kubuntu was 7.10
[19:36] <jussi01> have a look at the last link
[19:36] <theunixgeek> messiah: it is.... :P
[19:36] <jussi01> messiah: it is - 8.04 is not released yet
[19:36] <messiah> ah...
[19:36] <messiah> ok ok, thank you ^
[19:36] <theunixgeek> libqt.so.1
[19:37] <surgy> i need a program that will convert avi and divx to smv, can anyone help?
[19:37] <nickname00000> 8.04 is on alpha 2 right now
[19:37] <jussi01> !find libqt.so.1
[19:37] <surgy> !smv
[19:37] <ubotu> Package/file libqt.so.1 does not exist in gutsy
[19:37] <jussi01> hmmm
[19:37] <messiah> am new here, i have just installed 7.10 yesterday, what i have to do in order to listen mp3 and view avi for example?
[19:37] <nickname00000> what do you suggest me? to try alpha 2 of kubuntu 8.04 and install there kde4rc2?
[19:37] <jussi01> !mp3 | messiah
[19:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:37] <ubotu> messiah: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:37] <romunov> messiah: you probably have amarok installed - just run it. it will ask you to install mp3 support
[19:37] <snarkster> theunixgeek: are you running kde or console
[19:37] <theunixgeek> messiah: what's your main language?
[19:38] <messiah> spanish
[19:38] <jussi01> !es | messiah
[19:38] <ubotu> messiah: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:38] <theunixgeek> snarkster: I'm using GNOME, but I know QT is kde-related
[19:38] <messiah> arigatou gozaimas :D
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> messiah: install "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:38] <snarkster> yuck gnome
[19:38] <jussi01> !info libqt-mt
[19:38] <ubotu> Package libqt-mt does not exist in gutsy
[19:38] <theunixgeek> snarkster: I like both
[19:38] <surgy> anyone?
[19:38] <theunixgeek> jussi01: did it use to exist?
[19:38] <theunixgeek> surgy: what?
[19:38] <snarkster> apt-get install libqt3-mt
[19:39] <jussi01> theunixgeek: ^
[19:39] <theunixgeek> I'll try that
[19:39] <jussi01> theunixgeek: I always forget the  3 ;)
[19:39] <surgy> i need a converter to convert avi and divx into smv format
[19:39] <theunixgeek> it says it's already installed and the newest version. :(
[19:39] <theunixgeek> surgy: VLC plays all video formats you can think of
[19:40] <surgy> yeah but in order for me to move them onto my mp3 player it needs to be in smv format
[19:40] <theunixgeek> ho
[19:40] <theunixgeek> *oh
[19:40] <snarkster> theunixgeek: what version of qt do you want to install?
[19:40] <theunixgeek> snarkster: 3 or later
[19:41] <snarkster> ok then try apt-get install libqt4-core
[19:41] <theunixgeek> it's installing! :D
[19:42] <theunixgeek> nope :(
[19:42] <theunixgeek> still doesn't work
[19:42] <jussi01> theunixgeek: what are you trying to do exactly?
[19:42] <wraithmagi> anyone know of a way to force the system tray applet use 2 rows of icons instead of one?
[19:42] <snarkster> get rid of gnome and oinstall kde. :D
[19:42] <Artimus> wraithmagi: Try making the panel taller...
[19:43] <theunixgeek> jussi01: run a program that says "cannot open shared object file"
[19:43] <Artimus> wraithmagi: I had the same problem, I set it to a custom size of 48pixels
[19:43] <theunixgeek> "error while loading shared libraries: libqt.so.1: cannot open share object file"
[19:43] <Artimus> (right click on panel, configure panel)
[19:43] <theunixgeek> snarkster: do you think that'll work?
[19:43] <jussi01> theunixgeek: which program...
[19:43] <theunixgeek> jussi01: mek
[19:43] <theunixgeek> jussi01: http://www.linux-france.org/prj/mek/
[19:43] <ziutek> pojebalo was oO?
[19:43] <snarkster> theunixgeek: no i have no idea really. :)
[19:43] <theunixgeek> jussi01: hopefully you speak French :P
[19:43] <wraithmagi> configure panel doesn't give that option... just which to show/hide etc....
[19:44] <jussi01> theunixgeek: nope...
[19:44] <theunixgeek> snarkster: well, the website says that in KDE the library is already on the system....
[19:44] <theunixgeek> I'll try that.
[19:44] <Artimus> wraithmagi: Set the size to Custom
[19:44] <wraithmagi> already have done.
[19:44] <Artimus> wraithmagi: You're on the Arrangement tab, right?
[19:45] <wraithmagi> yup.
[19:45] <wraithmagi> have length set to 95% tho.
[19:45] <wraithmagi> hang about.
[19:45] <Artimus> Shouldn't matter
[19:45] <Artimus> I'm set to 99%
[19:45] <surgy> so noone can help me convert a file from avi to smv?
[19:45] <Artimus> Not sure what to tell you.  I had issues when I had my panel size set to normal.  That's when I switched to a custom size of 48 pixels.  Now I've got two rows
[19:46] <wraithmagi> yeah... doesn't matter.
[19:46] <wraithmagi> er....
[19:46] <wraithmagi> hang on...
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> make your taskbar font smaller
[19:46] <wraithmagi> ???
[19:47] <romunov> surgy: have you tried googling "avi 2 smv" or something similar?
[19:47] <surgy> yes
[19:47] <surgy> all i find is windows tools
[19:47] <surgy> and i cant seam to find anything for linux
[19:47] <theunixgeek> does kubuntu-desktop have the normal Kubuntu apps?
[19:47] <Artimus> theunixgeek: It's a meta package, yes
[19:47] <theunixgeek> yay :)
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: yeah
[19:49] <gon> !frost wire
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frost wire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <wraithmagi> guess I'll work on it later.... thx any way artimus.
[19:49] <vzduch> !info frostwire
[19:49] <jussi01> !frostwire
[19:49] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[19:49] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[19:49] <Artimus> wraithmagi: Have you tried setting it taller than 48 pixels?
[19:50] <theunixgeek> what's that one website that gives you a list of all the sudo apt-get remove's that you need to keep a pure KDE desktop and completely remove GNOME since removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove all the GNOME apps?
[19:50] <vzduch> I say, use gtk-gnutella
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> theunixgeek: I think that if you use apt0tude it will remove the dependencies
[19:51] <jussi01> !purekde | theunixgeek
[19:51] <ubotu> theunixgeek: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[19:51] <theunixgeek> thanks
[19:51] <surgy> !smv converter
[19:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smv converter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:53] <surgy> fuck it
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy
[19:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:53] <jussi01> a little late  nosrednaekim  ;p
[19:53] <nosrednaekim> yup.
[19:54] <ed__> Hi people!!!
[19:54] <theunixgeek> why didn't surgy just google it :P
[19:54] <theunixgeek> ed__: Hi ed__!
[19:54] <awen_> anybody else here using kubuntu hardy on a laptop?
[19:54] <theunixgeek> awen_: #kubuntu+1 I think
[19:55] <ed__> Please help me
[19:55] <jussi01> awen_: #ubuntu+1 for hardy stuff
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> #ubuntu+1
[19:55] <jussi01> !ask | ed__
[19:55] <ubotu> ed__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:55] <theunixgeek> !ask | ed__
[19:55] <theunixgeek> woops :P
[19:55] <awen_> nosrednaekim: thx
[19:55] <theunixgeek> ed__: what do you need help with?
[19:55] <Flare183> !language >surgy
[19:55] <theunixgeek> awen_: yah, #ubuntu+1
[19:55] <Flare183> !language > surgy
[19:55] <theunixgeek> Flare183: he's gone
[19:55] <ed__> I cen't connect to ICQ(copete)
[19:55]  * Flare183 says crap
[19:56] <theunixgeek> ed__: Kopete
[19:56] <theunixgeek> not Copete
[19:56]  * Flare183 says wrong person/channel
[19:56] <theunixgeek> :P
[19:56] <theunixgeek> lol almost all KDE things begin with K
[19:56] <awen_> yep... the #kubuntu+1 looked so empty :)
[19:57] <ed__> O i'm sory. I litle speek ing
[19:57] <theunixgeek> awen_: did you ask your question there anyway? ;)
[19:57] <jussi01> ed__: your language?
[19:57] <ed__> Russian
[19:57] <jussi01> !ru | ed__
[19:57] <ubotu> ed__: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:57] <awen_> theunixgeek: no :P
[19:57] <theunixgeek> !russian | ed__
[19:57] <theunixgeek> awen_: do it anyway; they're quite helpful there :)
[19:57] <jussi01> awen_: #ubuntu+1 covers both
[19:58] <ed__> Thanks for help!
[19:58] <awen_> theunixgeek: i know... i'm very helpful :)
[19:59] <osacie> ello ppl
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> hey osacie
[19:59] <voonte> I'm about to try Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 2 out (with KDE4). Which is the easiest way to get Kubuntu installed without a CD or USB?
[19:59] <benpicco> Hi,i´m wondering what to to to avoid the taskbar displaying all windows on all desktops when compiz is enabled
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> voonte: with vmware from within windows
[19:59] <osacie> great news....new updates r available for Kununtu 7.10 - KDE 4.5 patch
[20:00] <jussi01> !netinstall | voonte
[20:00] <ubotu> voonte: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: you need the compiz-kicker app.
[20:00] <jussi01> osacie: no, kde 4,5 does not exist
[20:00] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: but there isn't a package for it.
[20:00] <voonte> Wow, thanks :)
[20:00] <jussi01> :)
[20:00] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: in backport's NEW
[20:01] <blizzzek> hi
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick: awesome :D
[20:02] <benpicco> i´ve already installed kicker-compiz from kde-look and switched to compiz windowbar and compiz desktopmanager nosrednaekim
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: you need to add kicker compiz as the taskbar applet
[20:02] <sat_> I can't find the shutdown icon, but i can see hibernate, logout, etc. In ubuntu, I installed kubuntu package.
[20:02] <jpatrick> benpicco: yep, they're both in Hardy and stuck in gutsy-backports NEW till someone pulls them out from there
[20:03] <small_stripes> ctrl + alt + backspace
[20:05] <sat_> How can I get shutdownd icon. I can't find the shutdown icon, but i can see hibernate, logout, etc. In ubuntu, I installed kubuntu package.
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> sat_: did you modify your kdm settings? make sure all users have permission to shut down
[20:08] <sat_> i didn't modify kdm seetings. currenlty, to shutdown: I logout and then shutdown. It's a 2 step process. I'm trying to get back the shutdown button
[20:08] <sat_> nosrednaekim:   i didn't modify kdm seetings. currenlty, to shutdown: I logout and then shutdown. It's a 2 step process. I'm trying to get back the shutdown button
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> sat_: same thing happened to me infact....it fixed itself with some update..
[20:10] <jussi01> sat_: you need to make kde the default window manager
[20:11] <benpicco> nosrednaekim: i´ve installed the .deb file from http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=46021 again, there are both the desktop switcher and the taskbar compiz apps active, i can't find an app called kicker-compiz
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: you may need to configure the taskbar to only show tasks from the active desktop?
[20:12] <sat_> jussi01:  i think it's kde is the default. How can i check that, pls?
[20:12] <ardchoille> sat_: is "offer shutdown options" checked in your session manager? system settings > Advanced > Session Manager
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: ah thanks.. thats what I was thinking of. I forgot where it was though ;)
[20:12] <benpicco> nosrednaekim: there is no such option avaliable as there is only one real virtual desktop, the other ones are managed by compiz
[20:12] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: yw
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: yeah, I think what you need to do is set the #of desktops in compiz to 4(or whatever # you have)
[20:14] <sat_> ardchoille:  how can i go to system seetings. i'm trying to find that.
[20:14] <jussi01> sat_: bottom of the kmenu
[20:14] <jussi01> or top..
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> im not talking about horizontal desktop size, I'm talking about the setting for # of desktops that in the same tab in the dialog
[20:15] <ardchoille> sat_: I'm not sure where it is in the menus, but you can alt+f2 and ype in systemsettings
[20:15] <ardchoille> *type
[20:15] <benpicco> nosrednaekim: than 1 get Nr.*Nr_Horz
[20:15] <benpicco> I
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> what>
[20:16] <benpicco> the total amout of desktops
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> what happens?
[20:17] <benpicco> i have 3 horozontal desktops as a prism, iif i set the total size to , i get 9
[20:17] <benpicco> to 3
[20:17] <sat_> ardchoille: i checked. "offer shutdown option" is checked.
[20:18] <ardchoille> sat_: Ok, now you should have more options when you log out
[20:19] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: oh.... so what if you set horizontal to 1 and total to 3?
[20:20] <benpicco> nosrednaekim: than the desktops don't act as a prism anymore, if i switch between them, all windows are like minimized on the current and faded in on the other desktop
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> oh
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> benpicco: I have no idea... it worked on my system
[20:21] <jussi01> benpicco: try #compiz-fusion
[20:21] <benpicco> ok
[20:21] <sat_> ardchoille:    it was already cheked. so, i don't difference - still shutdown is missing.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:25] <josei> hola hola
[20:25] <josei> que tal
[20:25] <jussi01> !es | josei
[20:25] <ubotu> josei: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:30] <erkan_> selam
[20:32] <romunov> great, title bars disappeared again
[20:32] <romunov> damn it, compiz
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> romunov: alt+f2 "kwin --replace"
[20:33] <ArtVandelay300> hello everyone
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> hello ArtVandelay300
[20:34] <ArtVandelay300> im usre this happens all the time but i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me with a small issue
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> ArtVandelay300: ask away.
[20:34] <ArtVandelay300> related to dmraid and my ntfs drive
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> the more common it is, the easier :D
[20:34] <ArtVandelay300> hahah i bet
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> oh... I don't do raid....
[20:34]  * nosrednaekim believes in hardware raid.
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> :D
[20:35] <ArtVandelay300> i know i wish i had the money for it
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> yeah well, ask anyway, someone else might know
[20:35] <ArtVandelay300> i can see the array using dmraid  -r
[20:36] <ArtVandelay300> i go into disk & file systems and try to mount/enable and i get an error
[20:36] <ArtVandelay300> The system reported: $MFT has invalid magic.
[20:36] <ArtVandelay300> theres more but i dont want to spam the channel
[20:37] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | ArtVandelay300
[20:37] <ubotu> ArtVandelay300: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:37] <ArtVandelay300> wow thanks
[20:39] <ArtVandelay300> An error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org:
[20:39] <ArtVandelay300> :(
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> ArtVandelay300: and if noone can help you here ( holidays is making some people scarce) you can always post on the ubuntu forums
[20:40] <ArtVandelay300> yeah ill do that
[20:41] <jussi01> ArtVandelay300: it works fine here - maybe remove the trailing : ??
[20:41] <ArtVandelay300> i enjoy chat as it can be a little more personal.  I found forum topic like my issue but all of them have deal with actually installing on the raid...i just need to get access to the array as a storage drive.  Kubuntu is already installed on my ide drive just fine
[20:41] <jussi01> !raid | ArtVandelay300
[20:41] <ubotu> ArtVandelay300: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:44] <numpy> hola people
[20:45] <jussi01> !es | numpy
[20:45] <ubotu> numpy: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:45] <ArtVandelay300> anyone know how to get audio over hdmi?
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> !hdmi
[20:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdmi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> !spdif
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spdif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <benpicco> i don't know if the latest fglrx driver supports it
[20:47] <ArtVandelay300> yeah thats what i was thinking
[20:47] <jussi01> ArtVandelay300: are you talking about adding a audio track to a hdmi moviie?
[20:47] <ArtVandelay300> nah
[20:47] <benpicco> is there such a device in alsamixer?
[20:48] <jussi01> benpicco: there is a program yes
[20:48] <jussi01> benpicco: just type that in terminal
[20:48] <pizzicato`> good evening
[20:48] <benpicco> hi pizzicato`
[20:49] <benpicco> jussi01: ?
[20:49] <pizzicato`> unable to save bookmarks in /home/pizzicato/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xmll Report error was : permession denied"
[20:49] <jussi01> pizzicato`: its a known bug
[20:49]  * nosrednaekim shudders
[20:49] <mgdm> Is http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php still the best way to install KDE4?
[20:49] <ArtVandelay300> ive decided that ubuntu hates my g chipset
[20:49] <pizzicato`> how can I fix?
[20:49] <jussi01> mdno
[20:49] <ArtVandelay300> ive decided that ubuntu hates my 690g chipset
[20:49] <jussi01> mgdm: no
[20:50] <jussi01> !kde4 | mgdm
[20:50] <ubotu> mgdm: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[20:50] <mgdm> jussi01: thanks very much
[20:50] <jussi01> :)
[20:50] <pizzicato`> jussi01: do u have idea how can I fix this bug?
[20:51] <jussi01> pizzicato`: just either remove the file (lose any bookmarks for dolphin) or change the file bact your owner ship
[20:51] <jussi01> Trevinho: hi
[20:51] <pizzicato`> ok thanks
[20:54] <jussi01> pizzicato`: it is caused by using the "open as root" button in dolphin
[20:54] <pizzicato`> ok thanks.. now I have another problem.. I can't do apt-get ... it find an error
[20:55] <jussi01> pizzicato`: what is the error?
[20:55] <pizzicato`> when I run sudo apt-get update linux says me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.""
[20:56] <pizzicato`> solved
[20:56] <pizzicato`> :) thanks jussi01
[20:56] <jussi01> pizzicato`: so run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:56] <rysiek|pl|afk> hi guys
[20:57] <rysiek|pl|afk> I am trying to build kmobiletools, but those need an "rfcommsocketdevice.h" file - it ought to be in the "kdebluetooth-dev" package, but there is no such package
[20:58] <rysiek|pl|afk> I tried searching packages.ubuntu.com, no luck. found a launchpad entry about the package bein added, but... it hasn't, as it would seem. any ideas?
[20:58] <jussi01> !info kmobiletools
[20:58] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[20:59] <jussi01> rysiek|pl|afk: its in the repos, why compile?
[20:59] <rysiek|pl|afk> jussi01: yeah, but 4.3.3 does not work (fully) with my nokia
[20:59] <daedalus__> !info kismet
[20:59] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2007-01-R1b-1.1 (gutsy), package size 950 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[20:59] <rysiek|pl|afk> jussi01: it seems it needs the gammu engine support, and that was added in 0.5.x series
[21:04] <al-mestar> pls i need codec video
[21:04] <rysiek|pl|afk> al-mestar: no. you need a video codec
[21:04] <rysiek|pl|afk> al-mestar: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:04] <rysiek|pl|afk> al-mestar: or google for mplayer codecs
[21:05] <bioman> mplayer codec: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[21:09] <al-mestar> thanks
[21:11] <t00na> hello
[21:11] <t00na> I just upgraded to Gutsy
[21:12] <t00na> I just wiped my HD, reinstalled with a Gutsy CD.
[21:12] <t00na> oh, there's my problem
[21:12] <t00na> this isn't Gutsy...
[21:12] <t00na> nevermind!
[21:12] <SSJ_GZ> that was easy
[21:12] <awag22> lol
[21:12] <awag22> that was semi funny
[21:13] <thomas> naaaaabend
[21:13] <t00na> oh, yeah it is.
[21:13] <awag22> lol
[21:13] <awag22> welcome back
[21:13] <thomas> ups...its english
[21:13] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: cat /etc/issue
[21:13] <t00na> 7.10
[21:13] <t00na> okay
[21:13] <thomas> is here someone from germany?
[21:13] <XBehave> thats gutsy
[21:13] <Hirvinen> !de | thomas
[21:13] <ubotu> thomas: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:14] <thomas> thanks
[21:14] <t00na> okay
[21:14] <rysiek|pl|afk> humm
[21:14] <rysiek|pl|afk> !pl
[21:14] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:14] <t00na> so I just installed.
[21:14] <t00na> Fresh install/
[21:14] <XBehave> and.....
[21:14] <t00na> Booted up, logged in fine. Then it was like, "Hey! there are restricted drivers! You can has!!!"
[21:14] <thomas> naabend
[21:15] <t00na> So I was like "Can has?" and it installed them for me.
[21:15] <t00na> rebooted 'cause it said to.
[21:16] <noppe> does ubuntu patch wine or package vanilla-wine?
[21:16] <t00na> Then it was like "Hey!  Do you want?" so I went through the little updatey thingy in the tray icon, told it to install, then left for lunch.
[21:16] <t00na> Came back, and it said "Couldn't commit changes... breaking packages"
[21:16] <rysiek|pl|afk> noppe: wine, imho, why?
[21:16] <t00na> So I tried again, same thing.
[21:16] <t00na> Then it told me there was a distro upgrade available.
[21:17] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: known bug, unfortunately
[21:17] <t00na> SRSLY?
[21:17] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: in konsole: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[21:17] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: YRLY
[21:17] <t00na> O, KTHX
[21:18] <XBehave> noppe: wine have a ubuntu repo IIRC and i dont think ubuntu patch the 1 in our repos
[21:18] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: knopbai
[21:18] <t00na> OH NOES
[21:18] <rysiek|pl|afk> wurs meh buckit
[21:19] <t00na> $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[21:19] <jhutchins> !wine
[21:19] <t00na> ...
[21:19] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:19] <noppe> mmh, okay. and rysiek|pl|afk, because the application I'd like to use with wine on a different distro apparently runs fine on ubuntu, according to the wine's appdb .
[21:19] <t00na> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Sources
[21:19] <t00na> Fetched 3B in 1s (2B/s)
[21:19] <t00na> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:19] <t00na> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:19] <t00na> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
[21:19] <t00na> tuna@supertunacomp:~$
[21:19] <t00na> oh, duh!
[21:19] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: don't do that
[21:19] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: don't flood
[21:19] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: use a pastebin
[21:19] <jussi01> !paste | t00na
[21:19] <ubotu> t00na: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:20] <t00na> sorry, i thought it would be small enough that no one would mine...
[21:20] <jhutchins> t00na: 1) Close other programs/windows dealing with packages,
[21:20] <t00na> s/mine/mind/
[21:20] <jhutchins> !aptfix | t00na 2)
[21:20] <ubotu> t00na 2): If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:20] <t00na> jhutchins: yeah, i just noticed I still had the updatey thing open :P
[21:20] <jhutchins> t00na: That'll do it.
[21:21]  * t00na must wrap presents with mother, BRB if apt fails :)
[21:21] <padey> can anyone help me with kopete? damn msn doesn't seem to work :( it errors on me and crashes as soon as I log in :/ wtf? yahoo seems to work just fine
[21:21] <jussi01> padey: new install?
[21:21] <padey> yupp
[21:22] <jussi01> padey: its a known bug - it will go away once you update
[21:22] <padey> moved from suse to kubuntu yesterday
[21:22] <jussi01> :)
[21:22] <jhutchins> padey: There are other msn programs too.
[21:22] <jhutchins> padey: BTW please keep the language family friendly.
[21:22] <padey> yeah but don't want to use a whole program only for msn, it would be an honour :O
[21:23] <rysiek|pl|afk> rofl
[21:23] <mgdm> Hmm, I've got dependency problems here
[21:23] <jussi01> padey: hehe, well just do your updates and all is good :)
[21:23] <jussi01> mgdm: ?
[21:23] <padey> thanks :)
[21:24]  * rysiek|pl|afk has updates! w00t
[21:24] <t00na> okay, now something funny happened
[21:24] <mgdm> jussi01: I'm just pastebinning the output
[21:24] <t00na> paste coming, three lines...
[21:24] <t00na> Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc'
[21:24] <t00na>  ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
[21:24] <t00na>  ==> File also in package provided by package maintaine
[21:24] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: Y
[21:24] <t00na> okay
[21:24] <rysiek|pl|afk> t00na: install new version
[21:25] <rysiek|pl|afk> seriously, guys, we *have* to get adept to be able to handle config diffs
[21:25] <t00na> it workey!
[21:25] <t00na> KTHXBAI
[21:26]  * jussi01 sighs...
[21:26] <rysiek|pl|afk> gosh, I would *love* to see that t00na got near a real true lolcat
[21:27] <jussi01> !away | rysiek|pl
[21:27] <ubotu> rysiek|pl: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[21:27] <rysiek|pl> jussi01: yeah, sorry about that
[21:27] <mgdm> jussi01: I try to install, and I get http://pastebin.ca/828988, then if I do apt-get -f install, I get http://pastebin.ca/828986
[21:27] <mgdm> (I uploaded them in reverse order, for some weird reason :)
[21:29] <jussi01> mgdm: you need to remove the old kde4 packages first iirc
[21:29] <mgdm> jussi01: Hmm, I wasn't aware that I had any installed, maybe I did and forgot
[21:29] <jussi01> mgdm: as the first line says: Remove previous KDE 4 packages, they are not compatible (apt-get remove kdelibs5 kde4base-data kde4libs-data)
[21:30] <padey> "kopete is already the newest version." :O still crashes
[21:31] <mgdm> jussi01: Ok, will do, but I haven't installed KDE4 before, to my knowledge
[21:31] <jussi01> padey: hmmm, got updates repo turned on?
[21:32] <padey> updates repo? :S
[21:33] <rysiek|pl> padey: paste on a pastebin what you get from: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:33] <jussi01> padey: go to adept - manage repositories - check its on there - also try fetch updates button in adept
[21:36] <ax1s> kopete is not letting me specify webcam port
[21:36] <ax1s> even if i change it for my account, it still wants to use 68xx
[21:38] <padey> jussi01: I turned all of the repo's on, still nothing :P
[21:38] <jhutchins> !info kopete
[21:38] <padey> what is the latest version of kopete?
[21:38] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7140 kB, installed size 19708 kB
[21:39] <ax1s> how do i check which version is with feisty
[21:39] <ax1s> it seems this bug only happnes after upgrading to gutsy
[21:39] <Dragnslcr> Version of Kopete in the repository is 0.12.7
[21:39] <jussi01> !info kopete feisty
[21:39] <padey> that is what I have
[21:40] <assilva> corpKing> !es
 Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:40] <assilva> * vicpaolo saiu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
 Hi, What software should I use in Kubuntu for managing partitions?  I just added a hard drive to my fileserver and I need to make a couple of ext3 partitions on it.
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[21:40] <ax1s> padey: are yu having issues?
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[21:40] <assilva>
[21:40] <assilva> * A conversar em #kubuntu
[21:40] <assilva> * Tópico para #kubuntu é: Topic for #kubuntu:  Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php | Tutorials Day logs at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | The Flash plugin installation is currently broken.
[21:40] <assilva> * Tópico para #kubuntu colocado por jussi01 a Mon Dec 17 19:48:04 2007
[21:40] <hydrogen> ..
[21:40] <assilva> * murchadh`<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entrou em #kubuntu
 how do i check which version is with feisty
[21:40] <assilva> * vit___<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entrou em #kubuntu
 it seems this bug only happnes after upgrading to gutsy
[21:40] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[21:40] <assilva> * Janko_25 saiu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[21:40] <padey> yeah, msn doesn't work at all
[21:41] <ax1s> hrm <IP_ADDRESS> vs <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:41] <jussi01> padey: its not kopete that needs updating - its one of the other packages - make sure your system is fully updated and it will work!
[21:42] <ax1s> padey: installed libjasper-runtime ?
[21:42] <assilva> jussi01, vai se fusder filha da puta
[21:42] <jussi01> !en | assilva
[21:42] <ubotu> assilva: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat