[12:29] <hysua> ive finished the ISO download, anyone got an torrents I can join to seed? (desktop-i386 ISO)
[12:29] <xzk> paste a torrent
[12:29] <xzk> i cant find one
[12:29] <mikl> hmu: then try apt-get'in xorg
[12:29] <Alzi2_> hmu: If I were you, I'd reinstall/.
[12:29] <apokryphos> hmu: is that the full output? Could you pastebin the full output?
[12:29] <holycow_> Amaranth, *ping*
[12:29] <randomi> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:30] <Peter77> can anyone help me, I think gnomes crashed
[12:30] <neuro_> all the torrents are in http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/
[12:30] <kal> What is the difference between alternative and desktop version ?
[12:30] <Alzi2_> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[12:30] <dholbach> hmu: what happens if you do      sudo apt-get install xorg    ?
[12:30] <Alzi2_> the new download site.
[12:30] <thee> will installing from iso upgrade from dapper or make a new installation?
[12:30] <apokryphos> kal: check the FAQ
[12:30] <lnostdal> Congratulations ppl. :)
[12:30] <randomi> kal, alternative has no gui
[12:30] <justthisguy> kal: alterneate isnt a livecd iirc
[12:30] <guyo> monad: to sort out kde related problems, stop gdm/kdm and start x with xinit as a regular user (belonging to the video group)
[12:30] <elliot> Peter77: If you're sure its crashed uses ctrl+alt+backspace but only if your sure
[12:30] <kal> okay
[12:30] <khaije1> WAHOO!
[12:30] <snowblink> Peter77, CTRL+ALT+F2
[12:30] <hmu> http://pastebin.ca/222511
[12:30] <Peter77> well it won't let me click on anything
[12:30] <snowblink> Peter77, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:31] <Peter77> it seems to happen after the network-manager has logged me into my wireless network
[12:31] <Peter77> this has never happend before
[12:31] <elliot> Peter77: while doing what (and ctrl+alt+backspace does the samething snowblink)
[12:31] <dholbach> hmu: what happens if you do      sudo apt-get install xorg    ?
[12:31] <apokryphos> hmu: ok, how did this problem come about, and... what happens if you try to install just xorg?
[12:31] <godmachine81> Peter77:: what network card?
[12:31] <Peter77> netgear
[12:31] <snowblink> elliot, only if you haven't disabled that "feature". ;)
[12:31] <rackerz> thanks randomi.
[12:31] <assasukasse> elliot i was wondering, if i delete my root partition and just leave my home partition, and reinstall edgy final, would the problem be solved?
[12:31] <Peter77> WG511T
[12:31] <xzk> is it possible to install Edgy over Dapper.. or how do I do it?.. Burn Edgy to a CD and reinstall everything?
[12:31] <stojance_> Can someone help me with gnome dock?
[12:31] <Peter77> I'm going to try KDE
[12:32] <godmachine81> Peter77:: sorry im not familiar with that specific card, but some cards dont work with network-manager
[12:32] <elliot> assasukasse: ask on the channel - I wouldn't reccomend it - I think it would destroy your system#
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: libmesa-* dependancies
[12:32] <Peter77> it works
[12:32] <apokryphos> xzk: nope, you can update straight to it. See the link in the channel topic for info
[12:32] <snowblink> Peter77, you're on a laptop?
[12:32] <randomi> rakerz, no problem
[12:32] <laynor> Hi, Is there a way to install ubuntu without partitioning? I mean, with something like an HD file.
[12:32] <Peter77> I've used network-manager for over a week with no problems
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: I'm now trying to install libmesa stuff
[12:32] <godmachine81> Peter77:: it works and shows as a device, but it wont keep a connection?
[12:32] <apokryphos> hmu: are you on dapper? And, what do you have in your sources.list?
[12:32] <hmu> apokryphos: nope, edgy
[12:32] <godmachine81> haha
[12:32] <apokryphos> hmu: you've already upgraded to edgy?
[12:32] <godmachine81> sup fear
[12:32] <bmgz> are their any decent torrents yet for 6.10? all the ones iv'e tries are still empty
[12:32] <elliot> can someone give a torrent link
[12:32] <Fear_cult> now i see where youve disappeared to
[12:33] <assasukasse> thanks elliot :D
[12:33] <Fear_cult> lol
[12:33] <apokryphos> hmu: did you dist-upgrade? You really should have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage before upgrading, otherwise you're going to encounter problems.
[12:33] <justthisguy> xzk: change all the dappers in your /etc/apt/sources list to edgy, then run sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hmu> apokryphos: yeah... I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop a couple of weeks ago after I had upgraded to edgy
[12:33] <randomi> elliot, desktop/server/alternate?
[12:33] <godmachine81> yep
[12:33] <apokryphos> hmu: and you did a dist-upgrade without having -desktop?
[12:33] <elliot> radomi: alternative
[12:33] <Fear_cult> vmware*
[12:33] <guyo> anyone can confirm it is normal that the dist-upgrade to edgy wants to uninistall my ubuntu-desktop metapackage ^
[12:33] <godmachine81> you need to
[12:33] <elliot> randomi: alternative
[12:33] <guyo> ?
[12:33] <randomi> elliot,http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[12:33] <xzk> apokryphos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades     ?
[12:33] <godmachine81> haha
[12:33] <apokryphos> xzk: yes
[12:33] <Fear_cult> i know
[12:34] <hmu> apokryphos: nope, the dist-upgrade was _before_ then, but I think I did a couple of dist-upgrades afterwards (but I don't think that really matters)
[12:34] <d-E-u-S> ca somebody help me to setup my wlan card?
[12:34] <marx71> what is this ubuntu-desktop problem?
[12:34] <hmu> ok, I installed some libmesa packages, then xorg, then ubuntu-desktop (and a shitload of other packages) are installing
[12:35] <randomi> mnepton, any reason why I'm still being rejected from the torrent? I've already got it downloaded but trying to seed.
[12:35] <jyoungxx> hey guys I don't have the nvidia-glx-config command in my system for enabling my nvidia
[12:35] <halok> 0
[12:35] <marx71> cross and uncross till it works!!
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ : is Edge Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Yup.
[12:35] <godmachine81> these people wouldnt listen
[12:35] <newbie> bye! thnx
[12:35] <godmachine81> they thought there was gonna be last minute updates
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> thanks :)
[12:35] <elliot> randomi: How do I join the torrent and use my HTTP downloaded file to mirror it?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: NP ^^
[12:35] <godmachine81> i told them last night go ahead and grab the rc that it was done
[12:35] <godmachine81> but they didnt listen :(
[12:35] <Fear_cult> lol
[12:35] <Fear_cult> why grab anything
[12:35] <Fear_cult> its apt based
[12:35] <Fear_cult> dist-upgrade
[12:35] <dholbach> guyo: use      gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[12:35] <Fear_cult> and use kernel.org its fast as hell
[12:35] <laynor> Fear_cult, has it an acceptable speed under WMWare? I ony have access to a friend pc and don't want to partition it.. though i don't want to use windows!
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> !edgytorrents is http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-{alternate,desktop,server}-{amd64,i386,powerpc}.iso.torrent
[12:35] <Fear_cult> i dunno laynor i dont have it installed
[12:35] <godmachine81> ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso              25-Oct-2006 15:10
[12:35] <Fear_cult> im running fc6
[12:35] <godmachine81> i posted a link to that 10 hrs ago
[12:35] <Alzi2_> laynor: There's always the live CD.
[12:35] <godmachine81> heh
[12:35] <Fear_cult> laynor, im sure it would though
[12:35] <Alzi2_> laynor: AND USB stick Linux (DamnSmallLinux. Damn i love that thing)
[12:35] <godmachine81> but they wanted that "official"
[12:35] <Daviey> godmachine81, your admiting that your been infront of IRC for 10 hours+?
[12:35] <Alzi2_> whoa
[12:35] <Alzi2_> flood
[12:35] <elliot> can someone name me a good torrent client?
[12:35] <laynor> Alzi2_, yes, but I need a lisp installation, with bells and whistles
[12:35] <apokryphos> hmu: it does matter.
[12:35] <Fear_cult> vmware is pretty good about running semi-close to actual installed speed
[12:35] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ and the install does it have a "wizard" type of install? like freebsd ?
[12:36] <godmachine81> Daviey:: i been in front of irc for years
[12:36] <godmachine81> haha
[12:36] <JoseStefan> !torrent > elliot
[12:36] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: Yes. But much better, actually ;)
[12:36] <godmachine81> just ask Fear_cult
[12:36] <Fear_cult> me too godmachine81 but this is still a hellalotta peepz
[12:36] <Yancho|BNC> hehe oki that would be great :)
[12:36] <laynor> Alzi2_, this usb-stick thing sound interesting
[12:36] <Fear_cult> hell ive been on irc for like 10ish years
[12:36] <jyoungxx> !nvidia
[12:36] <randomi> elliot, open up the torrent and pick the location of where you saved it as the location for the download. It will verify the download and then begin seeding it.
[12:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <Vogeltje> Is Edgy official now?
[12:36] <Daviey> godmachine81, i have a thin client for IRC in the toilet!
[12:36] <Alzi2_> laynor: Sure is. Kind of hard to get working, though.
[12:36] <hmu> apokryphos: have i disrupted the "matrix"?
[12:36] <godmachine81> lol
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: I'm getting "Tracker: [Failure reason "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."] " on the i386 server torrent, fyi.
[12:36] <godmachine81> Fear_cult:: i think this is the most ppl i ever seen in a room
[12:36] <neuro_> hmf, could do with some DHT seeds on the torrent, I still can't see any seeds
[12:36] <Alzi2_> Guys, will Edgy feature updates with new features?
[12:36] <tim--> torrent just started working.. \o/
[12:36] <elliot> randomi: thanks
[12:36] <apokryphos> hmu: indeed =). You'll have to play around a lot, and you *may* have mucked up your PM system
[12:36] <Peter77> hmm it seems to crash when network-manager finds a network
[12:36] <Fear_cult> yeah i think so too godmachine81
[12:37] <neuro_> and i now have 34 people trying to leech off me :)
[12:37] <Rookie_> nice - almost 1100 users ...
[12:37] <Mehrdad> !ef >mehrdad
[12:37] <Fear_cult> godmachine81, cept like porn/warez chans on efnet/dalnet back in the day
[12:37] <godmachine81> oh yea
[12:37] <elkbuntu> neuro_, i hope you have a high bandwidth allocation
[12:37] <randomi> Nice, add me to the seed list :-D
[12:37] <neuro_> i only have 800Kbps up
[12:37] <Fear_cult> godmachine81, did you get your desktop back?
[12:37] <neuro_> and i've only allocated 512Kbps to seed
[12:37] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ and to update i use aptget right ?
[12:37] <godmachine81> i know that in #dvbfta on irc.dishnewbies.tv there was about 600 ppl at one time waiting for a dishnet fix
[12:37] <teckfatt> Daviey: your toilet is so cool
[12:37] <Schalken> oooh
[12:37] <neuro_> aha
[12:37] <neuro_> 4 seeds now
[12:37] <godmachine81> Fear_cult:: hell no
[12:37] <Vogeltje> jeah edgy release finally: with edgy beta I had problem with ati x800 video: does anyone now if its fixed?
[12:37] <Vogeltje>
[12:38] <neuro_> yay, tracker working!
[12:38] <hmu> apokryphos: Crap.
[12:38] <randomi> seeding desktop and alternate
[12:38] <guyo> dholbach: i'm doing a plain apt-get dist-upgrade (don't like update-manager stuff) as reported on the wiki page about upgrading...
[12:38] <randomi> Will be seeding server shortly
[12:38] <per> is there any prog for ubuntu that can shutdown the pc after 1 hour ?
[12:38] <guyo> what i don't understand is if it is normal that it has marked ubuntu-desktop for deletion
[12:38] <trukulo> per, at ?
[12:38] <guyo> per: sudo shutdown -h 60
[12:38] <LookTJ> I'm gonna host edgy release on my server
[12:39] <Kennebel> per: you could use "at".
[12:39] <per> thanks :)
[12:39] <trukulo> well, guyo idea is better
[12:39] <guyo> :-)
[12:39] <per> thanks guys
[12:39] <guyo> use it a lot :-)
[12:39] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, Fear_cult please take off-topic converstion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <Mehrdad> where can I get edgy ISO via HTTP?
[12:39] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:39] <tonyb2006> happy mayhem day!!
[12:39] <godmachine81> NEW!! sources.list with extras for edgy!!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28403/
[12:39] <Fear_cult> elkbuntu, "heres a spoon so you can eat my ass"
[12:39] <godmachine81> yea
[12:39] <godmachine81> smart move elkbuntu
[12:39] <SoftIce> does anyone have issues with asterisk startup scripts on ubuntu?
[12:39] <laynor> Thanks, I'll go with wmware first, and then if it's too slow I'll go for the usb-stick thing
[12:39] <godmachine81> that was a guaranteed ubuntu user
[12:39] <wily> i need to know when 6.10 become official
[12:39] <godmachine81> not that you give a damn
[12:39] <Alzi2_> laynor: You can run USB stick linux from within VMWARE, too.
[12:39] <osama> wily: it is
[12:39] <Schalken> is it just me or was edgy just released?
[12:39] <Daviey> yes sir
[12:39] <Yancho|BNC> Alzi2_ okis great :) .. and one last question :) - to assign an ip is it hard? and make it resolve to a dns : server.mepa-clan.eu.org ?
[12:39] <osama> Schalken: it's all of us
[12:39] <elliot> Schalken: IT is released
[12:39] <Alzi2_> laynor: The USB stick will be bootable and contains a linux distro. You can run it in qemu/vmware too, then.
[12:39] <SoftIce> Schalken today?
[12:39] <godmachine81> Schalken:: its been out for 10 hrs
[12:39] <bianconeri> So after updating my /etc/apt/source.list and sudo apt-get update --->sudo apt-get upgrade ---< sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...i should be set??
[12:39] <hmu> apokryphos: I think there ought to be more warnings about removing the ubuntu-desktop package if it is going to break something. Atleast, the command-line dist-upgrade should behave like the gui dist-upgrade (ie. exit with a falure)
[12:39] <Alzi2_> Yancho|BNC: THere is a settings dialog for that, not too hard to find :)
[12:39] <SoftIce> how big is the upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:39] <Mehrdad> is edgy DVD ISO available?
[12:40] <zircx> holy screen move batman...
[12:40] <Yancho|BNC> more nice :) im already loving it hehe :))
[12:40] <apokryphos> hmu: we warn people all over the place, but hey :)
[12:40] <dholbach> guyo: it will take care of a lot of quirks and make it easier
[12:40] <zircx> 466 files?
[12:40] <guyo> dholbach: i'll take your word for it :-)
[12:40] <zircx> interesting..
[12:40] <apokryphos> hmu: removing ubuntu-desktop isn't *always* bad, you just always need it with your upgrades
[12:40] <guyo> dholbach: thanks
[12:40] <dholbach> guyo: it ROCKs :)
[12:40] <naaronbo> Is edgy final released????????????????????????
[12:40] <wily> it is not in official repository
[12:40] <randomi> naaronbo, check the topic
[12:41] <zircx> Yancho|BNC: any obvious differences?
[12:41] <wily> i don't see it
[12:41] <apokryphos> naaronbo: check the topic: yes.
[12:41] <dholbach> naaronbo: YES REALLY!!!!11!!1!!11!!!11!11!!!1!!
[12:41] <laynor> Alzi2_, yeah, but there is no problem about using the hd, it's just that I don't want to partition it, so I'll go with an hd file ^^
[12:41] <apokryphos> =)
[12:41] <dholbach> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/thread.html
[12:41] <Zic_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[12:41] <godmachine81> wily:: the same iso i posted about 10 hrs ago is the same iso everyone is going crazy over now
[12:41] <ajmitch> dholbach!!!
[12:41] <dholbach> hiya ajmitch!
[12:41] <Mehrdad> where's edgy DVD?
[12:41] <godmachine81> valehru:: did i or did i not tell these folks a long time ago that it was already done
[12:41] <Yancho|BNC> zircx from what ?
[12:42] <monad> guyo: ok, so i completey reinstalled the xserver and kde
[12:42] <zircx> well I guess dapper to edgy
[12:42] <ajmitch> mnepton: btw, are you coming to MV?
[12:42] <zircx> or edgy RC to edgy final
[12:42] <ehird> can't wait for my download to finish :D
[12:42] <ehird> only... 1 hour to go.
[12:42] <cge> godmachine81: They have the same md5sum?
[12:42] <guyo> monad: stop gdm/kdm, get a shell as a simple user that is member of "video" group, and launch xinit
[12:42] <godmachine81> elkbuntu:: what did you just ban fear_cult for?
[12:42] <zircx> I thought that would have been a given... since we're talking about upgrading to edgy
[12:42] <godmachine81> cge:: yes
[12:42] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, his unwelcome attitude
[12:43] <lotusleaf> is there a final for an Edgy DVD ISO or is the DVD just the daily dvd (like this: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/)
[12:43] <Alzi2_> can't wait for my download to finish :(
[12:43] <vernes> question: has anyone heard of problems with ubuntu where the contrast dropped a bit further every time they play a movie? I've been told it might be a driver bug.
[12:43] <monad> guyo: how do i stop kdm in this system? is there some rc script?
[12:43] <hkl8324> I downloaded the iso and inserted the burned cd into a drive.....it still say 6.06 on the windows menu bar...it is a "bug"?
[12:43] <laynor> Alzi2_, though I don't know what to download from the vmware website, can you give me a hint?
[12:43] <guyo> monad: /etc/init.d/[kg] dm stop
[12:43] <Alzi2_> vernes: Maybe a screensaver bug?
[12:43] <bianconeri> So after updating my /etc/apt/source.list and sudo apt-get update --->sudo apt-get upgrade ---< sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...i should be set??
[12:43] <elkbuntu> godmachine81, it's usually a tad stupid to insult an op trying to keep peace and a channel on-topic
[12:43] <yakumo> pls help regarding qdvdauthor
[12:43] <Alzi2_> laynor: Well, to run Linux from USB stick you gotta learn to use Qemu.
[12:43] <vernes> Alzi2_: I have screensaver disabled
[12:43] <dholbach> bianconeri: use       gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[12:43] <zircx> bianconeri: , try it and see how it goes?
[12:44] <zircx> bianconeri: , I don't think they would put instructions up there just to entertain people.
[12:44] <yakumo> anyone familiar with qdvdauthor?
[12:44] <Alzi2_> laynor: Qemu is an emulator, like vmware. But you can also reboot and run your Linux directly from the USB stick
[12:44] <voltz> anyone can tell me why #ubuntu+1 is invite ?
[12:44] <coNP> do you know, when feisty will be started?
[12:44] <ajmitch> coNP: "soon"
[12:44] <JoseStefan> dholbach, it should no longer require the -d
[12:44] <laynor> Alzi2_, I want to run ubuntu from a traditional HD file, stored in hd
[12:44] <rob> voltz: because edgy is released
[12:44] <[NikO] > voltz, edgy is released
[12:44] <Alzi2_> laynor: The neat thing is that you can save your settings and files to the USB stick. AKA it's a pocket computer :)
[12:44] <dholbach> JoseStefan: ah, maybe yes, yeah :)
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> coNP: Probably withina couple of days to a couple of weeks.
[12:44] <coNP> voltz: I think, because there is no feisty yet, and edgy has been released
[12:44] <chuckyp> Lol #ubuntu+1 is invite only.
[12:44] <timhaughton> OK. My first Edgy question - how to I upgrade a Dapper Server? The apt-get method for upgrade says I have to have the Desktop installed.
[12:45] <chuckyp> timhaughton, do you ahve a window manager installed?
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> timhaughton: Have ubuntu-minimal installed instead
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> is there an issue with dapper not installing properly on laptops I looked at the /var/log/messages and it said failed to specify to /dev/hda^M
[12:45] <apokryphos> timhaughton: make sure you have ubuntu-server installed
[12:45] <timhaughton> OK thanks guys
[12:45] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard, not sure if there is more
[12:45] <chuckyp> spanglesontoast, well they changed to uuid instead of the /dev/hda format
[12:45] <apokryphos> actually, I think that metapackage was thrown out, one sec
[12:45] <cge> dholbach: Everyone keeps saying that, but I can't find any solid information on what update-manager actually does that is different from dist-upgrade, which I greatly prefer.
[12:45] <vernes> Alzi2_: correction, screensaver is not disabled. but Just tested it with it disabled. problem continues.
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> ?
[12:45] <voltz> Im using edgy eft,I can upgrade edgy with apt-get ..correct ?
[12:46] <JoseStefan> !info ubuntu-server dapper
[12:46] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-server does not exist in dapper
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> so is there something important I need
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Seems true here
[12:46] <chuckyp> voltz, you should use update-manager -c -d
[12:46] <Alzi2_> vernes: K. Then i don't know
[12:46] <Adriano> will -alternate run with 64 mb RAM?
[12:46] <spanglesontoast> to do during install
[12:46] <dholbach> cge: it makes sure that any quirks you'd have to resolve manually are just done for you
[12:46] <apecat> hmm, what's all this then: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:46] <apokryphos> voltz: yes, make sure you have ubuntu-desktop before dist-upgrading.
[12:46] <ehird> adriano: are you sure you can run gnome with those specs?
[12:46] <dholbach> voltz: gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:46] <chuckyp> apecat, try again in a momment could be a load on the repos
[12:46] <ehird> or ubuntu for that matter
[12:46] <Alzi2_> Adriano: Wow.. that's not much.... I'd install Xubuntu for that
[12:46] <apecat> chuckyp: heheh ok
[12:46] <zircx> cge; they're both pretty much the same, they do the same job, one's gui front end the other isn't..well that's what I tend to believe..
[12:46] <godmachine81> b950a4d7cf3151e5f213843e2ad77fe3  == MD5sum for desktop ISO...  Oct 26 00:57:11 <godmachine81>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:46] <Adriano> ehird: -alternate, meaning no X
[12:46] <ehird> i'd use damn small linux
[12:46] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos i can download ubuntu 6.10 straight away right ?
[12:46] <godmachine81> i guess ppl will learn to listen
[12:46] <chuckyp> voltz, yeah i'm sorry you no longer need the -d switch
[12:46] <chuckyp> Yancho|BNC, yes
[12:47] <osama> Need to get 719MB of archives. After unpacking 139MB will be used.
[12:47] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: straight away?  Will Ubuntu automaticaly add the WinXP hard drive to GRUB?
[12:47] <voltz> I have ubuntu-desktop yes, Im new to this so I dont understand gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:47] <spanglesontoast> mostly says failed to create file system
[12:47] <AlexC_> and will my data on WinXP hard drive be safe?
[12:47] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos no its a new server
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Channel traffic stats still going strong :)
[12:47] <ehird> voltz: heard of the terminal?
[12:47] <ehird> ;)
[12:47] <xopher> oh, its released ;)
[12:47] <Adriano> I successfully installed debian sarge, but if I can have 2 ubuntu PCs, better
[12:47] <Rookie_> test and try ...
[12:47] <elkbuntu> xopher, yes :)
[12:47] <JoseStefan> voltz, you put that in ALT+F2 dialog box
[12:47] <apokryphos> voltz: just type alt+f2 -> then enter the command
[12:47] <chuckyp> alex_ubuntu, it should if not you can always add the xp drive to the grub menu
[12:47] <Alzi2_> AlexC_: Yes.
[12:47] <frying_fish> AlexC_: yes, it will, and yes it will be sage
[12:47] <chuckyp> alex_ubuntu, !grub
[12:47] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: nice 8)
[12:47] <frying_fish> *safe, so long as you don't decide to delete it.
[12:47] <zircx> voltz; follow the instructions and you can't go wrong, it's pretty much a,b,c
[12:47] <voltz> ehird, yes, that would be where I learnt apt-get ;)
[12:47] <chuckyp> !grub > alex_ubuntu
[12:47] <voltz> thanks folk
[12:47] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: then just download and burn the ISO, sure.
[12:48] <monad> guyo: check this out... when i login as a normal user, run xinit or startx and then fglrx, i get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OrOwzo77.html
[12:48] <AlexC_> chuckyp: you mean AlexC_ hehe
[12:48] <Yancho|BNC> and to burn it on a cd rom - any specific changes? or just burn with nero [windows user here]
[12:48] <AlexC_> !grub -> AlexC_
[12:48] <chuckyp> AlexC_, yeah sry
[12:48] <chuckyp> !grub > AlexC_
[12:48] <chuckyp> AlexC_, you needed to lose the -
[12:48] <JoseStefan> tracker seems to be OK now
[12:48] <AlexC_> ahhh
[12:48] <mandelum> hello
[12:48] <osama> Yancho|BNC: just go ahead and burn image with nero/alcohol
[12:48] <Yancho|BNC> ok thanks osama
[12:48] <osama> or any other tool that supports iso
[12:49] <chuckyp> I'm going to dl the torrent just to seed it.
[12:49] <Peter77> ok I'm just upgrading everything in ubuntu
[12:49] <guyo> monad: lookin
[12:49] <spanglesontoast> HELP :|
[12:49] <chuckyp> Peter77, gksu update-manager -c
[12:49] <Peter77> ?
[12:49] <apokryphos> !helpme
[12:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:49] <spanglesontoast> how do I sort out this failed to create file system issue
[12:49] <Peter77> whats the difference?
[12:49] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:50] <Noxville> hey ppl... on dapper, whats the minimum install size?
[12:50] <dholbach> Peter77: be sure to use quotes.                 gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:50] <osama> torrents are working now....
[12:50] <monad> guyo: i'm still unsure, whether it's ok that the fglrx MODULE is still loaded, depending on agpgart
[12:50] <zircx> now, I'm guessing that with the gksudo method that the files that failed to download will attempt to redownload at some point before it goes into installation mode correct?
[12:50] <apokryphos> Noxville: average install is around 1.8 gigs
[12:50] <Peter77> I just clicked mark all upgrades in synaptic
[12:50] <mandelum> someone wants to help me install whitout cd, I am trying to do the floppy install, but I am stuck with fdisk
[12:50] <dholbach> chuckyp: don't forget the quotes
[12:50] <osama> Main download page updated
[12:50] <apokryphos> mandelum: there's other -- better -ways to do it still. /msg ubotu install
[12:50] <chuckyp> wth no torrent?
[12:50] <Peter77> whats wrong with just using synaptic?
[12:50] <JoseStefan> Peter77,  that will probably just give you the latest dapper, not edgy
[12:51] <Peter77> I'm using edgy rc 1
[12:51] <JoseStefan> Peter77, that's different ;)
[12:51] <apokryphos> Peter77: for upgrading? If you have ubuntu-desktop installed then you can use synaptic or apt-get to upgrade just fine
[12:51] <dholbach> Peter77: ah ok - that should be fine then
[12:51] <ehird> soon, i shall run gparted, nuke my dead linux partition (it randomly breaks - see my forum topic The Demon Start Screen), make another, and install edgy! yay!
[12:51] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all .. I have been using xinerama to run 4 monitors off two dual head cards. It was sluggish so I'm trying TwinView. I've got the main card and two middle monitors running PERFECT now, but I'm not sure.. can TwinView run two cards/4 monitors?
[12:51] <JoseStefan> Peter77, regular upgrades from any beta version will result in the final version
[12:52] <Peter77> so as I already have edgy I can use synaptic to get the latest edgy upgrades :-)
[12:52] <apokryphos> indeed
[12:52] <mvo> :)
[12:52] <Vogeltje> :)
[12:52] <voltz> latest version of edgy will be Ubuntu version 6.10 ?
[12:52] <Noxville> whats the ubuntu package repository link  again...?
[12:53] <dholbach> voltz: it is :)
[12:53] <marx71> voltz: latest version already is!!
[12:53] <mandelum> apokyphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:53] <zircx> can someone confirm on an upgrade from dapper that they've got 466 packages or are there more?
[12:53] <bimberi> Noxville: archive.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <apokryphos> Noxville: archive.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <Vogeltje> Ok im gonna download Edgy: official report on ubuntu.com :)
[12:53] <voltz> thanks again all those tha answered :)
[12:53] <hmu> apokryphos: it worked ;-)
[12:53] <guyo> monad: i've a solution candidate
[12:53] <hmu> apokryphos: rebooting now
[12:53] <Noxville> whats the command to update my sources of repositories?
[12:53] <Tidus> Vogeltje, you can upgrade in place...
[12:54] <bimberi> Noxville: sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[12:54] <Tidus> Noxville, gksudo "update-manager -c -d" will do it all automatically
[12:54] <mandelum> apokryphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:54] <marx71> i am upgrading to edgy!! already downloaded 783 packages out of a total of 1199 that i need!!
[12:54] <JoseStefan> the -d is no longer required, -d stands for development version
[12:54] <zircx> oh damn.. weird
[12:54] <guyo> monad: put this file ( http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2 ) in place of the one in /usr/lib/
[12:54] <justthisguy> Shadowpillar_: why?
[12:54] <zircx> i wonder why I'm only getting 466 at the moment
[12:54] <RawSewage> what happened to #Ubuntu+1
[12:54] <guyo> monad: backup it first obviously
[12:54] <boink> so .. how are the edgy servers holding out today?
[12:55] <fabio> hi to all
[12:55] <Tidus> RawSewage, ubuntu+1 has been locked because edgy has been released
[12:55] <boink> #ubuntu+1 would now be for feisty
[12:55] <RawSewage> oh cool
[12:55] <RawSewage> when was it released
[12:55] <zenlinuxNH> I'm getting "urlopen error" when trying to start the torrent download.
[12:55] <marx71> just now
[12:55] <monad> guyo: you think it's got sth to do with libGL?
[12:55] <apokryphos> mandelum: you can use tab for autocompletion of nicks in IRC, by the way. So what was the problem again, you can't use the CD?
[12:55] <RawSewage> good timing.  I just woke up
[12:55] <guyo> monad: take this link
[12:55] <Shadowpillar_> justthisguy: to make sure things go smoothly for most people, and because the servers will be bogged down, also, I use many unofficial repos that won't be upgraded for a few days
[12:55] <marx71> you woke up to a new dawn!!
[12:55] <guyo> monad: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033
[12:56] <RawSewage> lol
[12:56] <monad> guyo: ok thanks
[12:56] <justthisguy> Shadowpillar_: use a torrent, that way you can help :)
[12:56] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:56] <Vogeltje> Tidus: i just want to do a clean install
[12:56] <guyo> monad: seems like a bug that occurs with the 9200 and not with the 9600 (that i have)
[12:56] <guyo> :-)
[12:56] <fabio> i have a problem with the sound system , sometimes at the START of the sesssion it function , sometimes no  ...i try to restart the alsa system but this not resolve the problem...do you have an idea??? :-)
[12:56] <guyo> monad: if it works, you'll owe me your immortal soul
[12:57] <zenlinuxNH> oh well... at least the ftp site is giving me 300 kb/sec. :)
[12:57] <RawSewage> Is this the one most peope want:  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:57] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:57] <Noxville> problem... when booting off live cd, the intro music plays.. then the video go's fked up and my power button on my monitor flashes....
[12:57] <JoseStefan> !repeat
[12:57] <Shadowpillar_> justthisguy: also, 56k, though I may remedy this with a wifi card
[12:57] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:57] <mandelum> apokryphos: I have read all thoose, they are very complicated, and I found the floppy thing to be maybe the best, should I use the live or alternate install?
[12:57] <guyo> Noxville, choose a lower res for the installation
[12:57] <monad> guyo: should i replace it only in /usr/lib/dbg/libGL.so.1.2 or in /usr/lib/dbg/i686/mmx/cmov/libGL.so.1.2, too?
[12:58] <guyo> should be in /usr/lib/
[12:58] <apokryphos> mandelum: I'm really not sure of the method for installing for floppy, but the alternate would most likely be a safer bet
[12:58] <guyo> not in /usr/lib/dbg
[12:58] <Noxville> guyo: i tried.. but my monitor supports upto 1280x1024...
[12:58] <t0taln00b> hi all
[12:58] <t0taln00b> howdy
[12:58] <apokryphos> hello :)
[12:58] <guyo> monad: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[12:58] <chuckyp> Okay seeding both alternate and desktop i386 variant
[12:58] <t0taln00b> :)
[12:59] <voltz> busy night tonight heh
[12:59] <monad> guyo: ok thanks.
[12:59] <guyo> Noxville: yup, but probably not at the refresh rate that the installer is using
[12:59] <Mehrdad> so there's no DVD available for edgy yet?
[12:59] <chuckyp> Mehrdad, no need for a dvd
[12:59] <guyo> monad: please let me know if it works
[12:59] <Noxville> guyo: how can i make fixes...
[12:59] <mandelum> apokryphos: Well, I will use that then, thanks, I have problems finding a proper fdisk tutorial on the net, could I just put cfdisk on a floppy and use that?
[12:59] <vernes> anyone else notice the screen contrast dropping after playing a movie?
[12:59] <krpano> is it possible to set the terminal window dimesion by default ?
[12:59] <guyo> Noxville: don't remember how, but you should check the istructions early in the boot phase
[12:59] <Noxville> ~samba
[01:00] <apokryphos> mandelum: I wouldn't think there'd be too much of a difference there, but I can't be sure.
[01:00] <Mehrdad> chuckyp, my internet connection doesn't work on ubuntu, I prefer the DVD to install packages
[01:00] <Noxville> thanks guyo..
[01:00] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos am i understanding well that after i install ubuntu (edge) i need to download alot of things over the internet ?
[01:00] <UziMonkey> I can't connect to the tracker :(
[01:00] <Noxville> ...
[01:01] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: not a lot, but perhaps a few depending on what you need. All very easy to do, of course.
[01:01] <Vogeltje> btw is there a GAIM 2.0 beta 4 .deb for ubuntu?
[01:01] <monad> guyo: kudos to you... it works
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Yancho|BNC: no different than you had to on dapper
[01:01] <guyo_afk> monad: happy about it
[01:01] <Noxville> is kde for ubunut on the version 6.06 LTS disk?
[01:01] <trukulo> no
[01:01] <mandelum> apokryphos: fdisk is too difficult for me, do you know of any floppy distro that has cfdisk?
[01:01] <Yancho|BNC> apokryphos since its gonna be a game server - nothing much i think .. just install bash and then run the servers .. and thats it
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Vogeltje: god only knows what people have made but there will not be one for edgy
[01:01] <YogSothoth> Hi!
[01:01] <Mehrdad> how can I open CHM files with ubuntu?
[01:01] <apokryphos> Noxville: nope, you need to get kubuntu. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[01:02] <chuckyp> Mehrdad, How are you trying to connect to the net?
[01:02] <apokryphos> mandelum: nope. Quite ancient :P
[01:02] <bianconeri> How does one remove USB devices from the desktop:S...without unmounting them of course:D
[01:02] <monad> guyo: many thanks. still around 660 fps on fgl_glxgears - that ain't much, is it?
[01:02] <Mehrdad> using IPW UMTS modem (driver: ipw)
[01:02] <irc-user> how can I easily do a printscreen?
[01:03] <DarkFlib> you tried pressing the printscreen key?
[01:03] <JoseStefan> lol
[01:03] <apokryphos> Yancho|BNC: I think (!) apache comes on the disk; bash of course does. See /msg ubotu apache for instructions
[01:03] <vorbote> Mehrdad: activate the universe repository and install gnochm
[01:03] <YogSothoth> I found gworldclock to display time in multiple timezones at the same time. But I'd love to find the same but integrated into GNOME Panel item. Do you know one?
[01:03] <Noxville> ahhh.. apokryphos; how big is that download... my web browser is dead...
[01:03] <kyja> umm, so I had updated a <IP_ADDRESS> to an edgy beta lat month and it realy messed up. can I update now??
[01:03] <Mehrdad> vorbote, thanks
[01:04] <apokryphos> Noxville: the usual, around 700 megs
[01:04] <brosen> can I only use the alternate image for upgrading from Dapper?
[01:04] <chuckyp> bianconeri, gconf-editor  apps>nautilus>desktop
[01:04] <Yancho|BNC> yes there is apokryphos
[01:04] <Noxville> ah,..
[01:04] <chuckyp> brosen, yes you can use alternate or desktop
[01:04] <irc-user> yes I did try the print-screen key but nothing happened
[01:04] <bimberi> brosen: if you want to use a CD, yes.
[01:04] <Noxville> apokryphos, can't i just install kde for ubunut tho' and update the window manager
[01:04] <vorbote> brosen: that's correct. Make sure to use the upgrade script in the root of the CD.
[01:04] <chuckyp> brosen, alternate iso is bigger just fyi.
[01:04] <jakubek> hello
[01:05] <jakubek> how can i update my ubuntu from breezy to edgy eft?
[01:05] <RawSewage> brosen, you dont have to use alternate
[01:05] <apokryphos> Noxville: you can very easily install kubuntu (i.e. KDE) from Ubuntu, sure.
[01:05] <bimberi> jakubek: upgrade to dapper first, then edgy
[01:05] <gnomefreak> jakubek: upgrade to dapper first
[01:05] <chuckyp> jakubek, gksu "update-manger -c"
[01:05] <irc-user> !printscreen
[01:05] <brosen> Ok, thanks everyone :-)
[01:05] <jakubek> ok, thanks
[01:05] <Kazuhiro> when ubuntu auto mounts a usb drive where is the folder structure on the filesystem?
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <apokryphos> jakubek: see /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:05] <RawSewage> jakubek, Fresh install is best
[01:05] <chuckyp> Kazuhiro, it should mount to /media/whatever
[01:05] <kyja> when will shipit be updated. =]  ?
[01:05] <apokryphos> RawSewage: either way is fine. If you've got many settings you want to preserve, dist-upgrading twice might be easier.
[01:05] <gnomefreak> kyja: it wont
[01:06] <xipietotec> whoever controls the bots should reprogram a @lart to hit anyone who asks "Is Edgy out?" for this point on =P
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, never
[01:06] <Noxville> apokryphos, how big is just the kde... i've already got Gnome working...
[01:06] <Kazuhiro> chuckyp, thanks
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, That's what mnepton said
[01:06] <chuckyp> Kazuhiro, or it may use a different system if you type df  or mount after its mounted you should be able to see
[01:06] <JoseStefan> for upgrade instructions /msg ubotu upgrade
[01:06] <eXistenZ> kyja, No more shipit
[01:06] <gnomefreak> kyja: shipit will only be shipping edgy to loco teams
[01:06] <apokryphos> Noxville: I'd say a few hundred megs
[01:06] <fabio> Hi to all :-) PROBLEM with the sound system , sometimes at the START of the sesssion it function , sometimes no  ...i try to restart the alsa system but this not resolve the problem...do you have an idea??? :-)
[01:06] <kyja> oh ic
[01:06] <zircx> for some reason it is much easier and quicker for me to download the iso and install as opposed to doing an upgrade
[01:06] <kyja> k
[01:06] <gnomefreak> kyja: they will be sending dapper other than that
[01:06] <zircx> interesting
[01:06] <Noxville> do you have a link for me?
[01:07] <apokryphos> Noxville: /msg ubotu kubuntu
[01:07] <kyja> thank you for that info.
[01:07] <bianconeri> chuckyp: there is no entries in the address you provided
[01:07] <chuckyp> !kubuntu > Noxville
[01:07] <eternity> hi, is there any possibility to upgrade to EE throught sudo, instead of reinstalling from iso? thx :-D
[01:07] <chuckyp> bianconeri, hold on let me find it real quick
[01:08] <chuckyp> !upgrade > eternity
[01:08] <eternity> throught apt-get ... srrz
[01:08] <luisbg> how can I change the name of a user? not the login, but the real name
[01:08] <kyja> someone must clearly will have a purchase program for these future releases. I like to hand out pressed copies because some people feel skiddish if your pushing them to try an os of some blank thing I burned myself.
[01:08] <justthisguy> luisbg: look in /etc/passwd?
[01:09] <chuckyp> bianconeri, sudo gconf-editor   then go to apps > nautilus > desktop >   Uncheck volumes visible
[01:09] <kyja> =]
[01:09] <dholmes> luisbg, that's stored in the comment of the user, you should be able to change it with usermod -c
[01:09] <dholmes> See man usermod
[01:09] <kyja> ttyal
[01:09] <Ekinoks> Hi !
[01:09] <JoseStefan> luisbg, preferences, about me, should do it
[01:09] <dholmes> Or that
[01:09] <Adriano> luisbg: use System - Preferences- Users and groups
[01:09] <jakubek> updating ;-)
[01:09] <luisbg> thanks all for the help!
[01:09] <bianconeri> chuckyp: oddly the address you provided is empty
[01:10] <JoseStefan> luisbg, what Adriano said is better
[01:10] <chuckyp> bianconeri, it shouldn't be are you using kde?
[01:10] <bianconeri> no gnome
[01:10] <bianconeri> dont even have kde
[01:10] <chuckyp> bianconeri, what versoin of ubuntu?
[01:10] <luisbg> cool, thanks!
[01:10] <bimberi> luisbg: chfn
[01:10] <JoseStefan> System- Administration actually
[01:10] <bianconeri> just updated to Edgy:D
[01:10] <Adriano> right
[01:10] <Adriano> damn GUIs
[01:11] <chuckyp> bianconeri, it has to be there are you sure you clicked apps  then nautilus not just nautilus first or desktop first?
[01:11] <assasukasse> elliot__ what was the ubuntu apt source list generator url?
[01:11] <flabio> d
[01:11] <luisbg> to upgrade to edgy should I change the apt source and dist-upgrade or download the cd and reinstall the system (I have /home in a separate partition than /)?
[01:11] <chuckyp> !upgrade > luis_lopez
[01:11] <apokryphos> luisbg: check the channel topic please
[01:11] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone have a good dual video card twinview enabled xorg.conf I can take a peek at? I'm not so sure how to seperate both cards and all 4 monitors w/twinview (works sluggish with xinerama)..
[01:11] <chuckyp> !upgrade > luisbg
[01:11] <chuckyp> NineTeen67Comet, google twinview xorg.conf
[01:11] <JoseStefan> "update-manager" should be the best way
[01:12] <chuckyp> Yes update-manager is the best way
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> chuckyp: rodger .. been there done that, I'll seek "quad" maybe .. that might cover it more .
[01:12] <YoussefA1sad> wow, #ubuntu+1 is +i
[01:12] <jyoungxx> anybody had problems with nvidia-glx-config not enabling?
[01:12] <elliot__> assasukasse: www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:12] <apokryphos> YoussefA1sad: edgy is released now, so yes :)
[01:12] <assasukasse> elliot__ thanks
[01:13] <YoussefA1sad> apokryphos: I just might throw a tantrum :p
[01:13] <Noxville> k.. ppl. i read in an article that in the windows vista vs ubuntu war, ubuntu has a instant file searching application.. is this true?
[01:13] <chuckyp> NineTeen67Comet, well its pretty much the same thing you have devices then you have the screen section.
[01:13] <bianconeri> chhuckyp: I will upload a screenshot
[01:13] <apokryphos> Noxville: it's called beagle
[01:13] <apokryphos> works by indexing, pretty good
[01:13] <Noxville> oh yes..
[01:13] <chuckyp> bianconeri, k
[01:13] <jyoungxx> sure
[01:13] <Mr-SuisO> alguno habla espaol__??
[01:13] <apokryphos> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:13] <ProN00b> seriously, someone needs to make a tool to make the xorg.conf, setitng it up yourself sucks so hard
[01:13] <chuckyp> bianconeri, make sure you are using sudo as well.
[01:13] <vorbote> luisbg: don't dist-upgrade. Use "sudo update-manager -d" or use the upgrade script in the alternate CD.
[01:13] <justthisguy> apokryphos: how does beagle compare to slocate?
[01:14] <chuckyp> vorbote, its -c
[01:14] <apokryphos> ProN00b: kubuntu has a decent enough tool =)
[01:14] <jyoungxx> !nvidia
[01:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:14] <chuckyp> vorbote, -d is no longer needed that was for when it was beta
[01:14] <luisbg> vorbote, ok thanks! =)
[01:14] <apokryphos> justthisguy: a lot prettier, quicker too
[01:14] <ProN00b> apokryphos, it can't be decent if its kubuntu
[01:14] <boink> !edgy
[01:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:14] <bimberi> justthisguy: beagle searches the contents, not just filenames
[01:14] <vorbote> chuckyp: I do't recall, Been using Edgy for several months now, anyway.
[01:14] <justthisguy> ProN00b: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , easy :)
[01:14] <apokryphos> justthisguy: SUSE's menu integration with beagle is really great too. KDE might be adopting that by default for kde 4.x series, not sure about GNOME
[01:15] <ProN00b> justthisguy, yeah, and how do i set up multiple monitors to behave correctly ?
[01:15] <apokryphos> ProN00b: it really is.
[01:15] <chuckyp> !tell ubotu edgy is the current release version of Ubuntu.  Version 6.10, named "Edgy Eft".  For support head to #ubuntu.  For the release schedule, see !schedule
[01:15] <justthisguy> bimberi apokryphos thanks , I'll try it :)
[01:15] <co-NP> !schedule
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.   Version 6.10, named "Edgy Eft".  For support head to #ubuntu.   TWM is obviously better than either :)
[01:17] <justthisguy> boink: bah, kde, twm, evilwm ftw!
[01:17] <ehird> i prefer X with no VM on top of it! *g*
[01:18] <chuckyp> bianconeri, are you using xgl?
[01:18] <cge> I appear to have forgotten how to pipe stderr in bash.
[01:18] <boink> <= still learning about gmone too
[01:18] <bianconeri> no
[01:18] <Adriano> cge: command 2> file
[01:18] <cge> Adriano: Err, I meant redirection
[01:18] <Adriano> that's redirection
[01:18] <chuckyp> bianconeri, I don't know thats just wierd.  I've never seen anythign like that.  It has to be configured in there.  Where its pulling its config is beyond me if its not using nautilus
[01:18] <Adriano> piping, I don'tknow
[01:18] <Nippoo> Is anyone here good at networking?
[01:19] <boink> !ask
[01:19] <cge> Adriano: Ah. I know 2| works in zsh, but it doesn't work in bash
[01:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:19] <chuckyp> !ask Nippoo
[01:19] <Nippoo> kk.
[01:19] <boink> just fire away ..
[01:19] <Nippoo> I've bought 5 extra static IPs and would like to route them to various computers. Now, I realize that my Netgear DG834G can't do static routing, so I'd like my Ubuntu server to do the job. However, the two are in different buildings (but they are on the same network). Do I need to have the two physically connected for the server to be able to route them (and do DNS, DHCP, NAT, etc...)?
[01:19] <bianconeri> so if i am using xgl that could be the problem? how could i find out, just in case? I don't recall me trying to install xgl on this box...
[01:19] <Adriano> cge: but do you actually want to pipe or to redirect?
[01:20] <cge> Adriano: pipe
[01:20] <Adriano> ok, let me get my Linux in a Nutshell
[01:20] <voltz> is there a command to show which version is running ?
[01:20] <bimberi> !version
[01:20] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[01:21] <ehird> edgy almost downloaded \o/
[01:21] <voltz> thanks bimberi
[01:21] <bimberi> voltz: np :)
[01:22] <bianconeri> how does one install a 686 kernel on edgy?
[01:22] <johnnytang24> Do dual core processors require a motherboard that supports it?
[01:22] <apokryphos> !linux-686
[01:22] <apokryphos> !info linux-686
[01:22] <chuckyp> bianconeri, linux-generic
[01:22] <johnnytang24> or is the correct socket type enough?
[01:22] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:22] <chuckyp> !linux-generic
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-generic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <chuckyp> wow ubotu isn't switched over yet
[01:22] <cge> bianconeri: one doesn't
[01:23] <ayaa> hello
[01:23] <chuckyp> cge, bianconeri yes you can with linux-generic
[01:23] <Adriano> cbe: can't see it. The problem is, stderr is a file, not a dommand, so piping to it doesn't make much sense to me
[01:23] <apokryphos> chuckyp: Seveas has exclusive access to all the internals, and he's at work atm
[01:23] <ayaa> how to ge firefox2 on ubuntu from binaries
[01:23] <chuckyp> apokryphos, ahh
[01:23] <Adriano> cge: can't see it. The problem is, stderr is a file, not a dommand, so piping to it doesn't make much sense to me
[01:23] <chuckyp> ayaa, install edgy
[01:23] <bimberi> !info linux-generic edgy
[01:23] <ubotu> linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:23] <YogSothoth> I found gworldclock to display time in multiple timezones at the same time. But I'd love to find the same but integrated into GNOME Panel item. Do you know one?
[01:23] <chuckyp> bimberi, ty
[01:23] <bionoid> Adriano: what are you trying to achieve?
[01:23] <bimberi> chuckyp: yw
[01:23] <cge> chuckyp: But it isn't a 686 specific kernel, it will work with others as well.
[01:23] <Noxville> !ping
[01:23] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[01:24] <Noxville> !wtf
[01:24] <Adriano> bionoid: me, nothing. I was answering a question
[01:24] <ayaa> !edgy
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <chuckyp> I give up
[01:24] <ubotu> edgy is Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[01:24] <bionoid> Adriano: oh, ok :)
[01:24] <cge> Adriano: Err, stderr is the same as stdout in that respect.
[01:24] <chuckyp> !upgrade
[01:24] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:24] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:25] <compengi> ayaa, there is no mirrors for edgy =/
[01:25] <bianconeri> !linux-686
[01:25] <Adriano> cge: try command 2>| othercommand
[01:25] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:25] <Noxville> whats the command to upgrade dapper to edgy
[01:25] <apokryphos> Noxville: please check the channel topic
[01:25] <Noxville> sorry.. long day...
[01:25] <hani> apokryphos: worked!
[01:25] <boink> !upgrade > Noxville
[01:26] <Noxville> cheers
[01:27] <Fracture> congratulations on the egsy release !!
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> egsy?
[01:27] <Fracture> crap.. I can't type after a few glasses of wine
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> heh, eggsy eft
[01:27] <Fracture> congratulations on the Edgy release !!
[01:27] <hani> YoussefA1sad: yo!
[01:27] <boink> but edgy isn't a LTS release, keep that in mind
[01:27] <ehird> Eggsy Eckt
[01:27] <YoussefA1sad> hani: LART
[01:28] <PecisDarbs> congrats guys with new release
[01:28] <hani> tee hee
[01:28] <Fracture> Ubuntu Egsy, linux for breakfast
[01:28] <hani> hvor er du?
[01:28] <ehird> Ugstu Eggsy Eckt 10.06
[01:28] <Fracture> lol
[01:29] <mnepton> Ubuntu Eggsy. It's a yolk, so laugh.
[01:29] <cge> Adriano: Hmm... it doesn't work. I'll just install zsh.
[01:29] <YoussefA1sad> haha
[01:29] <dsewnr_> My nautilus got error after I upgrade to Edgy, what's wrong?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> mnepton: That server torrent is up fine now.
[01:30] <apokryphos> !torrents
[01:30] <ubotu> For torrent downloads of the Ubuntu ISOs see http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:30] <dsewnr_> I can't see any file on my desktop.
[01:30] <bimberi> apokryphos: cheers
[01:30] <ndlovu> are the alternate downloads available yet for Edgy? When I try to download one , it seems to only have release candidate isos.
[01:30] <jan_> could someone recommend a vpn program?
[01:30] <apokryphos> :)
[01:30] <zircx> half way there folks... yay..
[01:31] <Fracture> ndlovu: not all mirrors are sync'ed yet
[01:31] <alonz> does the tracker give valid responses for anyone? I get "HTTP Error 503". The torrent manages to start using DHT, but it's slow that way
[01:31] <jolt> how do i do an apt-upgrade to edgy
[01:31] <JoseStefan> ndlovu, try releases.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <zircx> 20 mins of downloading at 225Kbs
[01:31] <apokryphos> jolt: /topic
[01:31] <jolt> cant find the doc
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> Canada's mirrors are still waiting
[01:31] <ndlovu> Fracture, JoseStefan, thanks
[01:31] <bimberi> apokryphos: gah, the responsibilty :)
[01:31] <zircx> 20 more mins, 3 minutes of burning and 20 minutes of install..
[01:31] <MrKeuner> ? Cannot join #ubuntu+1 (Channel is invite only)
[01:31] <JoseStefan> alonz, it should speed up very soon
[01:32] <zircx> should be fun...
[01:32] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: Edgy is released; channel closed down.
[01:32] <MrKeuner> apokryphos: what about feisty? :)
[01:32] <alonz> JoseStefan: hope so :)
[01:32] <JoseStefan> MrKeuner, development hasn't started
[01:32] <apokryphos> MrKeuner: it doesn't exist yet
[01:32] <khaije1> anyone, where can i find torrents?
[01:32] <MrKeuner> OK
[01:32] <JoseStefan> !torrents > khaije1
[01:33] <RawSewage> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:33] <zircx> edgy just popped out of the box and we're already looking ahead to the next release lol
[01:33] <zircx> i find that very intriguing
[01:33] <tuskernini> question... has anyone had problems with flatscreen blinking once before starting any movie file?
[01:33] <RawSewage> Im not using Feisty until it comes out in April
[01:33] <khaije1> JoseStefan:  these are all the final releases right?
[01:34] <boink> final?
[01:34] <boink> meaning no more Ubuntu?
[01:34] <JoseStefan> khaije1, there are many files there, make sure you pick the right one
[01:34] <khaije1> as opposed to rc, boink
[01:34] <JoseStefan> khaije1, name should start with ubuntu-6.10    and not include and beta or RC remarks
[01:34] <boink> edgy has been officially released today
[01:34] <zircx> i forgot to ask, how does one find the server side if they run ubuntu as a server alone?
[01:34] <JoseStefan> any*
[01:34] <RawSewage> Ubuntu Edgy
[01:35] <leonel> OOOOOOOO  YES !!!  THANKS EDGY  on the streets !
[01:35] <khaije1> mkay thx JoseStefan, i'll bookmark this, v good to know
[01:35] <Nox_ville> hey again... whats a ubuntu equivalent of frontpage... need to make/edit websites...
[01:35] <JoseStefan> khaije1, alternativly you can find .torrent files on release.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <boink> bluefish?
[01:35] <det> Torrent link anyone? releases.ubuntu.com isnt responding
[01:35] <dfgas> !upgrade
[01:35] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:35] <tuskernini> nvu
[01:35] <RawSewage> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:35] <zircx> leonel: i take it you've upgraded..
[01:35] <tuskernini> frontpage... nvu
[01:35] <RawSewage> oh
[01:35] <JoseStefan> khaije1, correction releases.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <apokryphos> !html
[01:35] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[01:36] <RawSewage> its responding for me
[01:36] <dfgas> wow
[01:36] <Nox_ville> !nvu
[01:36] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[01:36] <RawSewage> oh yeah, sorry
[01:36] <RawSewage> I use Kubuntu
[01:36] <RawSewage> wrong channel
[01:36] <zircx> bluefish is great..
[01:36] <Nox_ville> where can i get a listing of the multiverse DVD disks that i downloaded
[01:36] <leonel> zircx: been with edgy since knot 3  no problems since then  and   now  to  do a clean install  with  edgy cds ..
[01:37] <zircx> leonel: ahh..
[01:37] <khaije1> JoseStefan: the torrent.ubuntu.com looks oddly unofficial...
[01:37] <JoseStefan> khaije1, that's just the tracker, it will list ALL files there including the older beta releases
[01:37] <zircx> leonel: been with dapper for 1 month now as a desktop.. enjoyed that muchly.. interested to see what edgy offers..
[01:37] <RawSewage> Omg noooooooo
[01:37] <mnepton> ok kids, i'm a dot. enjoy Edgy!
[01:37] <_lemsx1_> where are the release notes for Edgy?
[01:37] <RawSewage> my download has slowed to 40 kbps
[01:37] <RawSewage> damn you all
[01:38] <_lemsx1_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/ ?
[01:38] <apokryphos> _lemsx1_: /topic
[01:38] <JoseStefan> khaije1, the final release IS there, but it's a lot easier to fetch the torrent file at releases.ubuntu.com/edgy
[01:38] <EthanG> Hi
[01:38] <khaije1> JoseStefan: some files w/ the same description is listed with different sizes... it's hard to know what to pick
[01:38] <RawSewage> I tried the torrent earlier but it didnt work
[01:38] <EthanG> I need help with Ubuntu Installation
[01:38] <leonel> zircx: cleaner  smoother  look      firefox 2  really  nice  upgrade
[01:38] <khaije1> JoseStefan: ok sounds good
[01:38] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <zircx> i find it interesting that ubuntu in general is so 'up with he play' on keeping things automated but yet you have to do manual installs for certain things.. to an extent.. of course..
[01:38] <ndlovu> RawSewage: I'm at 0.05 KB/s. at this rate I should download Edgy around the time Feisty is released...
[01:38] <zircx> firefox 2?.. wow..
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> RawSewage: Try running an http download alongside the torrent.  Best of both worlds.
[01:39] <RawSewage> ndlovu, lol
[01:39] <RawSewage> tonyyarusso, not if you have a limited 150 kbps bw
[01:39] <zircx> I like cleaner.. big fan of cleaner stuff..lol
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> RawSewage: true
[01:39] <Ekinoks> Can somebody how make a *.iso on a key USB to be boot after ?
[01:39] <Luna-Tick> Hi guys, where do I go to tell people that they have put a Norway mirror under New Zealand at http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:39] <timhaughton> gksu "update-manager -c" shows no updates. Is this to be expected?
[01:39] <det> On the tracker,(http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/), edgy-alternate-i386.iso is a different size than ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso. Any idea why?
[01:39] <EthanG> When I put in the Ubuntu disc, i press Start-install then it loads but the next ting is a black screen with an orange box
[01:40] <zircx> that norway link is a great one, I think that's where I'm downloading from lol
[01:40] <Nox_ville> where can i get a listing of the multiverse DVD disks that i downloaded
[01:40] <tuskernini> iso boot on usb... there is a howto to do this. on external drive
[01:40] <det> Edgy+1 is Fiesty?
[01:40] <EthanG> When I put in the Ubuntu disc, i press Start-install then it loads but the next ting is a black screen with an orange box
[01:40] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, is your current version fully updated?
[01:40] <EthanG> Help please!
[01:41] <tuskernini> EthanG: does the dapper desktop cd work?
[01:41] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Yeah, but I'm just following the Edgy upgrade instructions - a server upgrade using apt-get went without a hitch
[01:41] <boink> !tell EthaG about ask
[01:41] <boink> !tell EthanG about ask
[01:41] <EthanG> What do you mean, the desktop CD? I downloaded the ISO desktop CD but then it just doesnt even bring up an install page
[01:42] <MattJ> Did you check the md5 of the iso?
[01:42] <EthanG> I'm a n00b
[01:42] <Ekinoks> Can somebody how make a *.iso on a key USB to be boot after ? there is you Shell doing that?
[01:42] <EthanG> I now have no PC or OS
[01:42] <EthanG> Which file should I download?
[01:43] <mchasard> hi
[01:43] <zircx> EthanG: how about if you went back to Dapper and then tried an upgrade using the disk?
[01:43] <mchasard> just saw that 6.10 is released ?
[01:43] <EthanG> I don't have any OS on my PC
[01:43] <EthanG> I need to instal Ubuntu
[01:43] <tuskernini> edgy !
[01:43] <tuskernini> edgy!
[01:43] <dte> Hello! I try to update to 6.10 but I get this error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:43] <zircx> you don't have an dapper disk?
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> found them
[01:44] <mchasard> so what's new in this edgy ?
[01:44] <bruenig> all of the mirrors appear to be having problems. Anyone have a torrent?
[01:44] <RawSewage> oh there wasnt anything wrong with the torrent
[01:44] <det> torrent tracker is down
[01:44] <EthanG> I have an ISO Ubuntu 6.06
[01:44] <_lemsx1_> apokryphos: thanks. I figured that after asking ;-)
[01:45] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:45] <compengi> are there mirrors to download edgy final?
[01:45] <Alzi3> Hi. I have chosen the wrong keyboard map and now I can't change it ')... How to change it to U.S. english=
[01:45] <bruenig> nevermind I found it
[01:45] <RawSewage> http://au.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[01:45] <RawSewage> AHH
[01:45] <RawSewage> sorry
[01:45] <RawSewage> thats Kubuntu
[01:45] <Luna-Tick> Tehehe - no mirror issues here. I'm pulling down at full speed in New Zealand
[01:45] <Luna-Tick> (Not Norway...)
[01:45] <RawSewage> I cancelled my download at 50%
[01:45] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:45] <RawSewage> and switched to torrents
[01:45] <khaije1> what does the alternate actually mean in the file name?
[01:45] <zircx> EthanG: if you aint having any luck with edgy then roll back to dapper and try an upgrade using the edgy cd for the source?
[01:46] <zircx> I don't know whether it will work but it might yanno..
[01:46] <RawSewage> Torrents are a lot better now
[01:46] <compengi> rawrness, but i can't see any mirrors on the site =/
[01:46] <EthanG> How do I install Ubuntu 6.06????
[01:46] <tim--> i'm only getting 25k/s off the torrent :(
[01:46] <det> bruenig, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:46] <bimberi> !alternate | khaije1
[01:46] <ubotu> khaije1: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:46] <RawSewage> Torrents are faster, everyone
[01:46] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:46] <apokryphos> EthanG: if you're having problems with the Desktop CD, I suggest trying the alternate.
[01:46] <det> bruenig, use the imaging prefixes by ubuntu-6.10 and not edgy
[01:46] <dte> Hello! I try to update to 6.10 but I get this error Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:46] <EthanG> What's the download URL for the alternate?
[01:46] <awk> how safe is the upgrade from dapper to edgy net install?
[01:46] <zircx> 6 minutes and i can burn my cd.. yay
[01:46] <awk> \
[01:47] <khaije1> bimberi: so alternate is really normal, and desktop is fancy 0_o ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> dte: are you on dapper? Is that error with the update manager?
[01:47] <Luna-Tick> jan_: Your best bet is probably to use apt-get source linux-...
[01:47] <apokryphos> awk: officially supported, should be fine.
[01:47] <EthanG> apok:whats the alternate cd url?
[01:47] <dte> apokryphos, yes, I am using dapper, and I get that error with the update-manager...
[01:47] <awk> apokryphos: nice, 1 last question, grsec support on edgy ?
[01:47] <det> khaije1, desktop is better unless you need a feature provided by alternate
[01:47] <det> khaije1, I have to use alternate for LVM and RAID
[01:47] <YoussefAssad> is wiki.ubuntu.com really slow?
[01:47] <apokryphos> dte: any other error output?
[01:47] <jan_> Luna-Tick: i just need the directory so i can do a vpn install.. do you know?
[01:48] <awk> YoussefAssad: im also suffering from slow sites
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> khaije1: yes. They are pushing the Desktop CD now, but alternate is faster and works on machines with less RAM. It is more confusing and has more options, however.
[01:48] <apokryphos> awk: what's that?
[01:48] <sami> where are md5 sums for edgy
[01:48] <Fujitsu> YoussefAssad: Looks likeit.
[01:48] <khaije1> det: does ubuntu boot to and lvm root?
[01:48] <awk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades that is so slow
[01:48] <dte> apokryphos, nope, just that, and the upgrade fails here... also i get that whenver i do apt-get update as well
[01:48] <Fujitsu> khaije1: If you configure it to do so, yes.
[01:48] <Luna-Tick> Sorry, jan_ no
[01:48] <awk> apokryphos: grsecurity patched kernel
[01:48] <apokryphos> sami: on the download page
[01:48] <det> khaije1, you need a seperate /boot
[01:48] <khaije1> Luna-Tick: raise your hand is love linux
[01:48] <apokryphos> awk: I really don't know I'm afraid.
[01:48] <awk> hmm anyone have another mirror for this
[01:48] <EthanG> where can i get the alternate ubuntu iso downlaod?
[01:48] <awk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[01:48] <det> khaije1, root can be LVM, but you need a seperate /boot
[01:48] <MattJ> EthanG, on the same page as the desktop one
[01:48] <kyja> I am getting nearly my full speen of 65kb @ http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.10/
[01:48] <awk> I cant even access it its so slow
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> EthanG: Same as the rest
[01:49] <EthanG> ok
[01:49] <apokryphos> dte: I recommend waiting for a few hours for the rush to die down, and then try again later.
[01:49] <khaije1> det: oh for grub's sake?
[01:49] <det> khaije1, right
[01:49] <MattJ> There are desktop, server, and alternate versions
[01:49] <dte> apokryphos, ok, I will do that, but I get that error all the time, with apt-get update as well, so I don't think it's some error just now
[01:49] <zircx> damnit.. I'm moving stuff from my xbox to my server ... and that's got 6 mins to go, my dapper has 3 minutes to go..
[01:49] <awk> sorry to bother again, does naoyone know of a site that has the upgrade instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades doesnt even open
[01:49] <zircx> oh that should work out perfect since i'll need to burn it
[01:49] <apokryphos> dte: can you pastebin the full output?
[01:49] <tuskernini> question... has anyone had problems with flatscreen blinking once before starting any movie file?
[01:49] <det> khaije1, which is logical, once it grabs the kernel and initrd it can do RAID/LVM/whatever
[01:50] <khaije1> det: is this how yours is setup? I'd like to do something similar
[01:50] <dte> apokryphos, sure, just a sec
[01:50] <EthanG> err... the same page as the desktop iso downlaod?
[01:50] <apokryphos> EthanG: yes
[01:50] <jan_> can somebody please tell me what the directory containing linux kernel source code is?
[01:50] <EthanG> errr... where?
[01:50] <Alzi3> Hi. I have chosen the wrong keyboard map and now I can't change it :'(... How to change it, and the defaults, to U.S. english=
[01:50] <Alzi3> ?
[01:50] <ehird> woooohooo now to install
[01:50] <EthanG> It just has a list of mirrors
[01:51] <apokryphos> EthanG: choose one
[01:51] <EthanG> brb
[01:51] <niksavel> hey all
[01:51] <timhaughton> I'm following the Edgy upgrade instructions. gksu "update-manager -c" shows no updates. Is this to be expected?
[01:51] <det> khaije1, I have 3 drives, they each have 2 partitions. One of the partitions is a 256Mb /boot in Raid 1 and the other is the rest of the disk in Raid-5 and then I have LVM ontop that.
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> timhaughton: Could be your mirror hasn't synced yet.
[01:51] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, try adding -d to that
[01:51] <jdt_> jan_  are you referring to linux kernel source?
[01:52] <khaije1> det: have you ever considered using evms instead of lvm?
[01:52] <det> khaije1, what are the advantages
[01:53] <det> khaije1, I remember breifly looking at it
[01:53] <UB^> Have someone got the problem that GDM restart randomly?
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: i get a promt for the linux kernel source code when i want to install a vpn program....
[01:53] <niksavel> Here's my big question >  I am updating kubuntu dapper to edgy following instructions from the homepage and am now at sudo apt-get dist-upgrade part.....   I know it has a lot to dl, and it's no prob since I'm at my 100mps uni lan, but it is downloading SLOW AS CRAP!!!!  it rarely goes above 10kps...   can anyone help me how to speed it up?
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: i get a promt for the linux kernel source code when i want to install a vpn program....
[01:53] <apokryphos> niksavel: perhaps try using a mirror
[01:53] <jan_> jdt_: so yes.. do you know?
[01:53] <niksavel> how?
[01:53] <tim_> As i know it shouldnt be possible to deactivate xgl without restarting X, i know that i can deactivate beryl and load another window decorator, but i would like to have the possibilty to deactivate xgl on my laptop without loosing my session. is it possible ?
[01:54] <jdt_> jan_ aahh...  its most likely in /usr/src/
[01:54] <LookTJ> brb gonna burn edgy to cd with k3b
[01:54] <jan_> jdt_: thats what i thought, but that directory is empty
[01:54] <ehird> now to burn ISO, and to reboot! :)
[01:54] <det> khaije1, Too be honest, I am really happy with raid + LVM2
[01:54] <MattJ> good luck ehird :)
[01:54] <apokryphos> jan_: that's because you haven't installed the headers
[01:54] <jdt_> jan_ If you have installed more than one kernel however, you will need to point it to the right one.  so type uname -r to get the running kernel ver
[01:54] <ehird> if all goes well, then, i guess i'll be here next on ubuntu instead of this crappy xp install ;)
[01:55] <khaije1> det: i'm not sure, i've found only bits and scraps of info here and there, but it seems that evms has some features not in lvm yet such as CoW
[01:55] <apokryphos> niksavel: yes, as you can imagine there's a big rush to download now
[01:55] <det> khaije1, Copy on Write?
[01:55] <ehird> First, for the "brute force" ubuntu removal: run fixmbr and then use gparted to nuke the partition
[01:55] <khaije1> det:  ya
[01:55] <Solskogen> Is xfs still broken when doing netinstall?
[01:55] <dte> apokryphos, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28414/
[01:55] <Solskogen> (that is, making xfs-filesystems)
[01:55] <variant> anyone know if the vmware workstation is free to download or what will i need to boot an xp bin on ubuntu if its not free?
[01:56] <apokryphos> niksavel: a list of a few mirrors here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:56] <khaije1> det: also the mgmt interface is nicer w/ evms imho
[01:56] <soundray> "can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk" -- is this a known problem when upgrading with update-manager?
[01:56] <jan_> apokryphos: how do I install them if necessary? im running 2.6.15-27-386
[01:56] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: The -d option works. Does that mean the upgrade instructions need updating?
[01:56] <tim_> Any good reasons for upgradig to edgy from dapper ?
[01:56] <det> khaije1, So, you have experience with both?
[01:56] <apokryphos> niksavel: talk in here :)
[01:56] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, it means update-manager needs updating
[01:56] <niksavel> k
[01:56] <variant> tim_: it boots a little faster, has a different theme and a bunch of other updates
[01:56] <apokryphos> jan_: /msg ubotu headers
[01:56] <khaije1> lvm is strickly cli isn't it?
[01:56] <quilzo> wow great host... only takes 5 hours to load the faq, \o/
[01:57] <niksavel> niksavel> all I know is to type apt-get dist-upgrade
 I am updating directly from the internet
 I can download the livecd, that's no prob...
 but it said on the web that you can only make a fresh install with it
 so I suppose that there really isn't anything I can do but wait?
 the prob is that I'm not too happy about leaving my laptop at the university overnight.... :/
[01:57] <jdt_> jan_ ahh. The source simply isnt installed then - if you are running dapper - do the uname - r. It will say something like 2.6.15- etc.. then use synaptic to find the sources for that version. the files you are after are: linux-source-* and linux-headers-  matching your running kernel ver
[01:57] <apokryphos> niksavel: please do not flood the channel like that :)
[01:57] <niksavel> sry :)
[01:57] <tim_> variant, does it give me any problem ? i dont want problems
[01:57] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: I have all latest Dapper updates. It seems to me that the Upgrade Instructions are wrong. Am I missing something?
[01:57] <apokryphos> niksavel: yes, as I said, either try some of the mirrors, or it'll have to wait
[01:57] <niksavel> haven't been on IRC in years :)
[01:57] <variant> tim_: might do
[01:57] <variant> tim_: i had no problems
[01:57] <tim_> Ok
[01:57] <variant> tim_: but there are no garuantees
[01:57] <awk> hello, what is the address to upgrade from dapper to edgy using ubuntu server build?
[01:57] <elkbuntu> niksavel, imagine if 1061 people were doing that ;)
[01:57] <khaije1> det: only w/ evms, but it's impressive, i haven't found much in the way of mgmt interface for lvm- it's cli only isn't it?
[01:57] <soundray> tim_: if your system is stable now, and you're not missing anything, you can stay with dapper. It'll be supported for the next 2 1/2 years.
[01:57] <EthanG> back
[01:58] <det> khaije1, Yeah
[01:58] <EthanG> im downloading ubuntu alternate install
[01:58] <niksavel> I said I was sorry :)
[01:58] <det> khaije1, a GUI would be nice
[01:58] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, -d flag is for development releases, and should no longer be required for edgy as of today
[01:58] <jan_> jdt_: ok.. running dapper.. have 2.6.15-27.386 will chech synaptic
[01:58] <niksavel> so...  is there a way to DL the livecd and update my kubuntu dapper to edgy from that?
[01:58] <ndlovu> is there any difference between one torrent and another for the same ISO? (are there fast and slow ones)
[01:58] <niksavel> or can I update the thing directly from mirrors somehow?
[01:58] <elkbuntu> !update | awk
[01:58] <ubotu> awk: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:58] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Does that mean I'm installing a difference version?
[01:59] <apokryphos> nikin: you can, yes. Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with the relevant URL
[01:59] <awk> elkbuntu: i'v read, that.. i'm using a net connection
[01:59] <awk> not going to be using a CD
[01:59] <det> khaije1, With EVMS, it does the striping itself, rather than running ontop a raid device?
[01:59] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, no, but in a few weeks that same flag will point to another edgy development version
[01:59] <khaije1> det http://evms.sourceforge.net/gui_screen/ you can ge the idea from this
[01:59] <elkbuntu> awk, net connection rather than internet connection?
[01:59] <tim_> soundray, Nice, but ill upgrade soon.. but right now it really runs smooth with xgl and beryl... but i would like to be able to dactivate xgl without loosing my gnome session
[01:59] <awk> that is what I am refering to
[01:59] <EthanG> I'm actually making my own distro
[01:59] <khaije1> det: it's configureable, yes
[01:59] <ehird> this is exciting
[01:59] <ehird> :p
[02:00] <EthanG> :)
[02:00] <variant> awk: change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:00] <awk> that simple ey ? :)
[02:00] <dte> apokryphos, did you see the link I pasted?
[02:00] <EthanG> Ed-to-the-g
[02:00] <variant> tim_: aiglx will allow you to do that
[02:00] <naaronbo> Today is released final de edgy in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-October/000093.html downlodat it
[02:00] <zircx> EthanG: you're struggling with an install and you're making a distro?
[02:00] <ehird> err
[02:00] <ehird> naaronbo: you're a bit behind
[02:00] <niksavel> awk...  I'm doing the same thing and the apt-get dist-upgrade part is taking like 2 days
[02:00] <apokryphos> dte: yes; hm, curious
[02:01] <EthanG> zircx: Joint thingie with school
[02:01] <niksavel> and I'm at 100mps connection, but it's downloading at 10kps
[02:01] <awk> niksavel: fock, but is yours a desktop OS with alot more packlages than me ?
[02:01] <awk> myne is a server build
[02:01] <EthanG> zircx: its our school project
[02:01] <timhaughton> JoseStefan: Thanks for the help.
[02:01] <niksavel> desktop kubuntu
[02:01] <dte> apokryphos, i get that always but I ignored it since it didnt really stopped me from gettin something until now
[02:01] <niksavel> not really all that many packages
[02:01] <apokryphos> dte: it should only not let you get things from multiverse, but still, it shouldn't happen.
[02:02] <alonz> torrent at 20K/sec here... still Error 503 from the tracker sadly
[02:02] <CarinArr> 20k/s sounds suspiciously capped
[02:02] <Alzi3> I love the new artowrk.
[02:02] <Alzi3> artwork*
[02:02] <KaroSHi> alonz, what client?
[02:02] <JoseStefan> timhaughton, np
[02:02] <det> khaije1, It's hard to find a comparison on the 'net
[02:02] <okn> hi there
[02:02] <alonz> CarinArr: well, in the range 15-25 or so, I mean. Not precisely 20
[02:02] <dte> apokryphos, can I use force or something so that will be ignored? or the upgrade to 6.10 will not be complete like that?
[02:02] <KaroSHi> hi okn
[02:02] <alonz> KaroSHi: utorrent on wine
[02:03] <tim_> I cant deactivate xgl without loosing my gnome session right? or is there some kind of cool trick ?
[02:03] <ehird> see you guys then!
[02:03] <awk> hehe, I see fedora.redhat. is completely messed up
[02:03] <okn> Where can i find the dvd iso of 6.10 ??
[02:03] <khaije1> det: tell me about it, i've been looking for weeks
[02:03] <RawSewage> why is my torrent slwoing down.  Torrents are supposed to get faster with more people, not slower
[02:03] <okn> only dvd iso i can find is ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[02:03] <okn> i need 64bit by the way...
[02:03] <RichiH> RawSewage: not when the seeding starts, no
[02:03] <KaroSHi> k, have you given ktorrent a go? i switched from win to ubuntu recently and ive fount ktorrent to be pretty good, almost like utorrent, also, are you grabbing from a public or private tracker?
[02:03] <alonz> RawSewage: the ratio of seeds to peers might have gotten worse
[02:03] <RichiH> RawSewage: peope need stuff before they can actually distribute it
[02:04] <apokryphos> dte: use a mirror, perhaps. See if you get the same problem there.
[02:04] <rixth> Too bad Edgy was released with a crippling bug- boot takes 5 minutes if you have a specific raid array, cause it fsck's EVERY F'ING BOOT.
[02:04] <det> khaije1, does evms use device mapper?
[02:04] <awk> hmm, is there a way you can set shaping on apt-get to limit your connection to a certain speed?
[02:04] <Adriano> RawSewage: maybe because not many people have the parts you're missing
[02:04] <RawSewage> Still. peers feed to each other
[02:04] <vernes> anyone else notice the screen contrast dropping after playing a movie?
[02:04] <khaije1> det:  yup
[02:05] <khaije1> det: it seems like they are equivalent in almost everyway
[02:05] <okn> Does anyone know where can i download dvd iso of 6.10 64bit ?
[02:05] <alonz> are there other trackers for the Edgy torrent than the ubuntu official one?
[02:05] <zircx> ok, just waiting for my disk to burn and then that's me ... install time..
[02:05] <khaije1> btw you can use the evms gui to manage lvm
[02:05] <khaije1> det: btw you can use the evms gui to manage lvm
[02:05] <zircx> what file systems do people prefer? ext2 / ext3 or reiserfs?
[02:05] <det> khaije1, LVM2 seems to be better supported by most Linux distros.
[02:06] <apokryphos> zircx: ext3 is Ubuntu's default
[02:06] <det> zircx, ext3
[02:06] <Artemis3> ext3
[02:06] <alonz> zircx: the future of reiserfs is in doubt, so I switched to ext3
[02:06] <awk> its only 230mb upgrarde from dapper to edgy
[02:06] <awk> thats lovely
[02:06] <zircx> I've normally used reiserfs.. I might have to do an install with ext3
[02:06] <awk> take around 20 min
[02:06] <soundray> zircx: ext3. reiserfs is not receiving much development attention since reiser4 is out. Reiser4 is highly controversial.
[02:07] <dxdemetriou> if I upgrade with  gksudo "update-manager -c -d" is ok? without the -d doesn't show upgrade, and with -d it says is beta
[02:07] <zircx> yeah I had heard that, but I've been a little out of touch..
[02:07] <niksavel> that's just great
[02:07] <alonz> 54/437 seeds/peers is what I see here. Is it the same for other people?
[02:07] <Artemis3> reiserfs is catastrophic if something fails, such as a hd which report cache cleared when its not, and power goes out
[02:07] <det> I have been burned by reiserfs
[02:07] <awk> what is going to happen with reiserfgs now that mr resiser has been jailed?
[02:07] <det> Many years ago
[02:07] <niksavel> downloaded the edgy livecd in 6 minutes via x downloader, but it takes 100+hrs to update the distro   !?
[02:07] <JoseStefan> dxdemetriou, it seems update-manager has been updated to not require the -d. it should be ok
[02:07] <apokryphos> awk: reiserfs wasn't even beeing maintained by him
[02:07] <JoseStefan> has not*
[02:07] <rc-1> is there an ubuntu/debian package for wxruby, or fxruby?
[02:07] <awk> apokryphos: ahh
[02:08] <apokryphos> awk: he was concentrating on reiser4
[02:08] <dxdemetriou> JoseStefan, I have tried it now and it's not. What repos can I use?
[02:08] <JoseStefan> !info wxruby edgy
[02:08] <Jettis> Should apt-get install ubuntu-desktop work?
[02:08] <awk> niksavel: thats the beauty of gcc perl, etc upgrades ;)
[02:08] <ubotu> Package wxruby does not exist in edgy
[02:08] <awk> apokryphos: oh, intresting, I never knew that.
[02:08] <Artemis3> there are more options, and i think they are even planning ext4
[02:08] <variant> awk: he wast the leader of the team though, hopefully it will survive
[02:08] <JoseStefan> dxdemetriou, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"   will upgrade to edgy
[02:08] <niksavel> but I really dont wanna leave my laptop here on the university to update everything for few days
[02:09] <variant> Artemis3: yeah, htere is an "alpha" of ext4 available
[02:09] <apokryphos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[02:09] <niksavel> and if I cancel the dist-upgrade it starts from scratch
[02:09] <variant> niksavel: no it doesnt
[02:09] <niksavel> u sure?
[02:09] <variant> niksavel: 10%
[02:09] <dxdemetriou> JoseStefan, so to ignore that says beta. thanks :)
[02:09] <zircx> great I'm just about ready for a fresh install..
[02:09] <variant> 100%
[02:09] <variant> i mean;lol
[02:09] <JoseStefan> niksavel, it shouldnt start from scratch, but if it is already installing, you shouldnt cancel
[02:09] <zircx> gnomebaker rocks.
[02:09] <niksavel> ach :)
[02:09] <sheepsheep> how can I upgrade from dapper, if I've downloaded the release and burned it on cd ?
[02:09] <okn> is the Edge name of the latest version ?
[02:10] <okn> Edgy ?
[02:10] <niksavel> no it's still downloading
[02:10] <JoseStefan> niksavel, its only safe to cancel if it is downloading
[02:10] <niksavel> it's been downloading for some 8 hrs now
[02:10] <Artemis3> gnomebaker? ever tried a multisession dvd?
[02:10] <variant> niksavel: the downloads wont start from scratch, so download and then take home to finnish off
[02:10] <niksavel> and it's only 23%
[02:10] <okn> i mean is edgy-dvd-amd64.iso  6.10 version ?
[02:10] <alonz> okn: The Edge is the guitarist from U2 :)
[02:10] <surfi_boi> just a quick question after i have set up a new partition in my free space already on my hd the rw permissions are wrong and i cant write to the drive.. How do i change this so that it works correctly?
[02:10] <okn> alonz, ok edgy :)
[02:10] <zircx> great! I'm ready to roll... later guys :) enjoy the edge
[02:10] <JoseStefan> okn, file starting with edgy-* are prerelease versions
[02:10] <alonz> okn: yes, Edgy is 6.10
[02:10] <variant> surfi_boi: chmod -R user:group
[02:10] <JoseStefan> files*
[02:11] <variant> surfi_boi: chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint
[02:11] <alonz> okn: but you want the 6.10, which are teh finals
[02:11] <okn> ok, i wanna download 6.10 x64 dvd version..edgy-dvd-amd64.iso  is the one ??
[02:11] <niksavel> can any1 tell me what will change on my comp with upgrade to edgy?
[02:11] <okn> if not, which one should i get ? :)
[02:11] <alonz> okn: it should say 6.10, not Edgy
[02:11] <soundray> Oh dear, 1.4GB upgrade...
[02:11] <Artemis3> brown tone :=)
[02:11] <okn> there is no dvd of 6.10 :(
[02:12] <RawSewage> what do you want a DVD for
[02:12] <tim_> Will xgl and beryl need a reinstall ip i upgrade to edgy ?
[02:12] <screechingcat> ive changed all my repos from edgy to dapper and i did an apt-get upgrade. is this safe for upgrade ?
[02:12] <soundray> okn: might take another few days
[02:12] <apokryphos> screechingcat: do you mean from dapper to edgy?
[02:12] <det> khaije1, My impression is that EVMS is a juggernaut while LVM2 is a small/simple component that fits into a bigger machine. I prefer the latter.
[02:12] <RawSewage> 1.4 gb upgrade?  thats crazy
[02:12] <JoseStefan> DVDs:   http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/
[02:12] <okn> ah, ubuntu-6.10-dvd-amd64.iso     found it :)
[02:12] <RawSewage> Just do a fresh install
[02:12] <screechingcat> apokryphos, yes
[02:12] <apokryphos> screechingcat: and no, just that is not enough/recommended. Please see the topic
[02:12] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: apt-get dist-upgrade is the way to go.
[02:12] <nikin> aa lot of people try do download edgy :D my download crashes every 5-10 minutes :D
[02:12] <RawSewage> This torrent is at 15 kbps
[02:12] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: screechingcat: if you *are* using dist-upgrade, you have to FIRST make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed
[02:13] <RawSewage> wtf.  it's a TORRENT
[02:13] <cyphase> finally!
[02:13] <niksavel> 21% [237 openoffice.org-style-default 1888956/3147kB 60%]     3406B/s 2d 7h1m28s
[02:13] <niksavel> :(
[02:13] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: Of course...
[02:13] <screechingcat> apokryphos, if it isnt
[02:13] <apokryphos> screechingcat: .......you can break your system
[02:13] <okn> did anyone install Maya 8.0 to ubuntu ? \
[02:13] <Alakazamz0r> morning all
[02:13] <cyphase> RawSewage: 18KB/s for me
[02:13] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: If it isn't, things may well crash and burn, though not irrecoverably.
[02:13] <RawSewage> This is the worst torrent ever
[02:13] <RawSewage> for having so many seeds and peers
[02:13] <nikin> 256k for me :D
[02:13] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: perhaps even irrevocably :P
[02:13] <screechingcat> apokryphos, damn it. no prob i just started. no changes affected
[02:13] <det> Raskall, I am getting 600KB/s
[02:13] <alonz> 21K here
[02:14] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: No, not.
[02:14] <cyphase> RawSewage: it's coming faster from the website itself
[02:14] <RawSewage> wtf
[02:14] <Jettis> I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop package and it tries to install xkeyboard-config, but then dpkg says that it is overwriting one file which is also in other package xlibs. So what should I do?
[02:14] <sheepsheep> how can I upgrade from dapper, if I've downloaded the release and burned it on cd ?
[02:14] <RawSewage> cyphase, I cancelled the website download at 50%
[02:14] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: Did you download the desktop CD?
[02:14] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: well, you can *completely* screw up your PM system. If you consider many hours of work not irrevocably, then there's never an irrevocable problem.
[02:14] <sheepsheep> I want to know if I should download it or just do a direct update
[02:15] <niksavel> http://nl2.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso    downloaded in: 06:49
[02:15] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: Not really. It should in theory be fine to install it afterwards, and then fix a few broken packages...
[02:15] <apokryphos> sheepsheep: a direct update is fine presuming you're following the proper instructions
[02:15] <Tomcat_> niksavel: I needed less. ;D
[02:15] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: You need the alternate CD if you want to upgrade from it.
[02:15] <soundray> Jettis: find out the full name of the .deb archive and force the install with 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite package_version.deb'
[02:15] <niksavel> that's minutes
[02:15] <okn> Why all people downloads CD of ubuntu, instead of DVDs ?
[02:15] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: no, I've seen very many broken systems precisely for that reason. All not very easy at all.
[02:15] <Fujitsu> okn: 'cause CDs are smaller, so quicker?
[02:15] <sheepsheep> what's the altenate cd and is it diffrent from the normal cd ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> RawSewage: the torrent won't speed up until the seed to peer ratio improves and there are more pieces availbale
[02:15] <tarzeau> okn: DVDs are too big?
[02:15] <tarzeau> okn: and not everyone has a DVD burner?
[02:16] <nikin> coz DVD is big
[02:16] <nikin> and Net is fast
[02:16] <niksavel> and all crap old comps don't have DVD drives
[02:16] <RawSewage> thoreauputic, ok
[02:16] <sheepsheep> It's just that we have more then one computer in the office with ubuntu
[02:16] <soundray> sheepsheep: that's a FAQ. Alternate has a non-graphic installer with more options.
[02:16] <sheepsheep> and we want to save the bandwidth
[02:16] <swanfl> dvd also may hav apps people don't want
[02:16] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: I've upgraded many systems through various releases, and haven't had any that have caused breakage that takes more than 30 minutes to fix, but that's my experience...
[02:16] <JoseStefan> it's not like the CDs are missing much
[02:16] <okn> i see :)
[02:16] <Fujitsu> sheepsheep: You may want to look at setting up apt-cacher.
[02:16] <Tomcat_> niksavel: Yeah, I needed about 2 minutes ;)
[02:16] <Shadowthrone> You know when you close a program window, rather than closing some times it drops onto the taskbar thingy -- I seem to have lost that, how can I get it back?
[02:16] <Jettis> soundray, that worked, thank you. :)
[02:16] <quilzo> hmm, the faq doesn't mention audio(-drivers)... is there another help file maybe?
[02:16] <niksavel> tomcat: bleh!
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Shadowthrone: which application in particular?
[02:17] <apokryphos> Fujitsu: I've dealt with tens of users who have borked their systems because of that. But also, it's not just a case of getting more packages. In certain scenarios you can have completely the wrong package as Ubuntu relies on the meta-package to successfully even remove some packages
[02:17] <niksavel> is there some super fast secret mirror for repos so I can upgrade this thing faster?
[02:17] <niksavel> :)
[02:17] <Shadowthrone> Fujitsu: Gaim.
[02:17] <apokryphos> niksavel: many to try :P. nl2 mirror used to be good for me in the past.
[02:17] <ndlovu> If I click the bittorrent link from one mirror, is it any different from selecting the torrent from another mirror?
[02:17] <KmyJIxy> hello peoples!
[02:18] <swanfl> Gaim is in extreme Beta at this point :)
[02:18] <JoseStefan> CC.archive.ubuntu.com      where CC is your country code
[02:18] <soundray> niksavel: de.archive.ubuntu.com is fast for me.
[02:18] <apokryphos> ndlovu: nope
[02:18] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:18] <Fujitsu> apokryphos: I know that, however, I've never had any major breakage, and I've dealt with tens of machines... But this is OT.
[02:18] <CarinArr> i hate shower curtains tho
[02:18] <Adriano> Shadowthrone: did you lose the entire traybar?
[02:18] <gypsymauro> hot I can know the difference betweeb packages available in ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-alternate cd?
[02:18] <ndlovu> apokryphos, thanks, I'll just wait it out then
[02:18] <CarinArr> er lol.. wrong window
[02:18] <gypsymauro> how
[02:18] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: Yes I think so.
[02:19] <quilzo> my sound works, but I can't change it in any way :s
[02:19] <savvas> one of the repos is stuck
[02:19] <niksavel> so I should just replace http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu with http://de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:19] <Adriano> try readding it right-clicking on that panel, select "add to this panel"
[02:19] <Tomcat_> niksavel: Yeah yeah, I'm just showing off now. :)
[02:19] <Fujitsu> gypsymauro: They are the same, but with slightly different languages.
[02:19] <niksavel> in the repos?
[02:19] <apokryphos> niksavel: for all entries in your sources.list -- correct.
[02:19] <soundray> niksavel: yes, and apt-get update again after that.
[02:19] <Adriano> and add "Notifications area"
[02:19] <savvas> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[02:20] <niksavel> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com  or  http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  ?
[02:20] <andriijas> what do i replace dapper with in sources.list to upgrade ? edgy? edgyeft?
[02:20] <apokryphos> savvas: so try another mirror
[02:20] <Adriano> (I'm translating, so it might be slightly different)
[02:20] <apokryphos> andriijas: to upgrade you should really be following the Wiki guide in the /topic
[02:20] <andriijas> apokryphos: okay, thx
[02:20] <Adriano> (should be the first thing in the "Utilities" section
[02:20] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: okay I'll try. Thanks.
[02:20] <nikin> 50%
[02:21] <screechingcat> apokryphos, i tried update "update manager -c" as recmnded in the wiki but there's some problem with the repos
[02:21] <eva> hello i have some problem with pdf files can i install acrobat reader to ubuntu
[02:21] <dredhammer> help, i just upgraded to Edgy and Xserver died
[02:21] <screechingcat> apokryphos, tell me the exact update method (recommended)
[02:21] <apokryphos> screechingcat: heavy load at the moment
[02:21] <andriijas> hmm
[02:21] <andriijas> i think the whole world is about to upgrade
[02:21] <andriijas> maybe should wait a couple of days hehe
[02:21] <apokryphos> screechingcat: I recommend just trying again in a few hours
[02:21] <michiel____> hello
[02:22] <apokryphos> or days, better
[02:22] <Shadowthrone> Adriano: Awesome! Thanks!
[02:22] <Adriano> yw
[02:22] <screechingcat> apokryphos, with the same method ?
[02:22] <JoseStefan> screechingcat, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[02:22] <Fujitsu> andriijas: Wrong. The whole world /is/ upgrading :P
[02:22] <nikin> eva: you can, but what is your provlem?
[02:22] <screechingcat> apokryphos, whats the d for ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> screechingcat: yes
[02:22] <Adriano> eva: instructions are in http://ubuntuguide.org
[02:22] <michiel____> which daemon in Ubuntu mounts USB sticks to /media?
[02:22] <screechingcat> JoseStefan, whats the d for ?
[02:22] <andriijas> Fujitsu: heheh
[02:23] <nikin> !pdf
[02:23] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:23] <apokryphos> screechingcat: I don't think the -d is necessary anymore actually; one sec.
[02:23] <Fujitsu> michiel____: gnome-volume-manager uses pmount to do so.
[02:23] <eva> nikin the program that was with drapper is not showing the file correct
[02:23] <michiel____> Fujitsu: thanks
[02:23] <Fujitsu> screechingcat: It is to tell it to upgrade to a development release. No longer necessary.
[02:23] <JoseStefan> screechingcat, -d stands for development, it appears update-manager still hasn't been corrected to not require the -d
[02:23] <screechingcat> Fujitsu, ok thanks
[02:24] <dredhammer> anyone know how to get xserver back after an upgrade to edgy?
[02:24] <screechingcat> JoseStefan, it has. i can confirm that
[02:24] <anders9034> hey guys i need to install gnome on my ubuntu desktop, and i tried "sudo apt-get gnome", but that wasn't a package i think. so i tried "sudo apt-get gnome*" but that ment downloading 1207MB and I don't think I need all those packages. is there a better way? or do i have to maunally download the gnome-packages that i need?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> What are my options for cli CD burning apps?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> dredhammer: What is the error you're getting, and what video card is it?
[02:24] <apokryphos> anders9034: gnome-desktop
[02:24] <Fujitsu> anders9034: If you want the entire Ubuntu desktop set, install ubuntu-desktop.
[02:24] <anders9034> thanks guys
[02:24] <dredhammer> Ati, and it says xserver not configured properly
[02:25] <dredhammer> i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> How is Ubuntu 6.10 friends?
[02:25] <Fujitsu> anders9034: Unless you installed the server edition, GNOME is installed by default.
[02:25] <nikin> eva: then isntall the adobe one: the package name is acroread
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> I have 6.06
[02:25] <Adriano> AlanHaggai: it feels like... victory
[02:25] <AlanHaggai> but would like to know the new features in 6.10
[02:25] <Fujitsu> dredhammer: Does it mention anything about driver ABI versions?
[02:25] <Adriano> just like the smell of napalm in the morning
[02:25] <anders9034> Fujitsu: i have installed server edition
[02:25] <apokryphos> AlanHaggai: check the topic
[02:26] <anders9034> the package gnome-desktop was not found...
[02:26] <dredhammer> not that i recall
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> ok
[02:26] <Fujitsu> anders9034: Ah... Do you want just GNOME, or the entire Ubuntu desktop experience?
[02:26] <aoupi> anders9034: ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <apokryphos> anders9034: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <ehird> edgy installer is broken for me
[02:26] <nikin> anders: ubuntu-desktop
[02:26] <Adriano> AlanHaggai: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[02:26] <soundray> AlanHaggai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:26] <dsewnr_> How to change the default locale ( ANSI_X3.4-1968 ) to Unicode ( UTF-8 ) ?
[02:26] <ehird> it complains that i havent set a root partition but i have
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> thanks friends :)
[02:26] <anders9034> Fujitsu: what's there to be experienced? :-)
[02:26] <timhaughton> arc76turus
[02:26] <AlanHaggai> will check it now
[02:26] <timhaughton> oops, wrong window
[02:26] <Fujitsu> anders9034: All the extra applications and magical stuff?
[02:27] <soundray> dsewnr_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:27] <dsewnr_> soundray: Thx
[02:27] <dsewnr_> soundray: : )
[02:27] <anders9034> Fujitsu: i really just need a skinny gnome (unless that means manually selecting 67 packages or so)
[02:27] <ehird> and no matter what i try
[02:27] <ehird> it still complains about it
[02:28] <nikin> there is a gnome package
[02:28] <apokryphos> anders9034: there's desktop-base but I'm not sure what that has exactly; one sec.
[02:28] <soundray> anders9034: there really isn't such an option. Consider xfce (xubuntu-desktop) instead
[02:28] <Nox_ville> hey.. whats the command to start bluetooth... and how can i use bluetooth to connect and use a bluetooth modem on my Nokia phoen
[02:28] <Nox_ville> *phone
[02:28] <Fujitsu> anders9034: gnome-session might do it, but I'm not sure.
[02:29] <soundray> !bluetooth | Nox_ville
[02:29] <ubotu> Nox_ville: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:29] <Nox_ville> Fujitsu, ill assume u've got a Fujitsu-Siemens computer.. laptop / desktop ?
[02:29] <Adriano> ok, time to estudiar. Great time everyone
[02:29] <anders9034> apokryphos:  yes please
[02:29] <Adriano> ci vediamo dopo
[02:29] <Fujitsu> anders9034: throw in gnome-panel as well, I don't  think there's any one package.
[02:29] <Nox_ville> !bluetooth
[02:29] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:29] <quilzo> sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss ---> gives "permission denied" why ?
[02:29] <Nox_ville> !Nokia
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Nokia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: Nope.
[02:29] <soundray> Nox_ville: don't fish with the bot, pls
[02:29] <Nox_ville> ah.. the name then?
[02:29] <apokryphos> anders9034: a 'gnome' package does exist
[02:29] <nikin> Nox: New Nokia Phones dont like Linux :D i have a 6230  :D
[02:30] <anders9034> apokryphos:  i know
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Nox_ville: It's been around for several years now, and it's a rather odd story :P
[02:30] <AlanHaggai> Hi Nox_ville, me too searching for a Nokia connectivity in Ubuntu
[02:30] <apokryphos> anders9034: so what's the problem?
[02:30] <soundray> !gnokii
[02:30] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 812 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[02:30] <Nox_ville> oh.. any ideas anyone (to get Bluetooth with Nokia phones....)
[02:30] <niksavel> HOORAY
[02:30] <ehird> any ideas?
[02:30] <adhoc> nikin: i have a 6230 and the bluetooth and ifrared rock =)
[02:30] <niksavel> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu in repos gave me 4mps upgrade speed :)
[02:30] <savvas> i can download the cd and use it to upgrade right?
[02:30] <Nox_ville> adhoc.. did you gnokii
[02:30] <Nox_ville> ?
[02:30] <adhoc> Nox_ville: use the bluez tools
[02:30] <Fujitsu> savvas: The alternate CD, not the desktop one.
[02:30] <niksavel> thanks guys
[02:31] <anders9034> apokryphos: the problem is mereyl that i don't want the big install of 1,3 GB when i just need the basic gnome.
[02:31] <Nox_ville> explain please.. i = noob
[02:31] <soundray> ehird: what install method have you chosen?
[02:31] <apokryphos> anders9034: gnome-core then
[02:31] <jc__> Hi
[02:31] <ehird> soundray: i got the desktop ISO as soon as edgy came out
[02:31] <bionoid> Nox_ville: I saw this announced on freshmeat today, havn't tried it though: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gammu/
[02:31] <nikin> Bluetoth is no problem in Kubuntu getting connected is nothing.. but never had luck with trying to recognize the Nokias Features
[02:31] <adhoc> Nox_ville: go look for the bluez deb packages , all you need is in the doco
[02:31] <anders9034> apokryphos: allright thanks :-)
[02:31] <Fujitsu> Hi jc__.
[02:32] <savvas> thanks Fujitsu :)
[02:32] <soundray> ehird: so you booted from it and selected the install option?
[02:32] <savvas> i'll use the torrent, to ease your network hehe
[02:32] <Fujitsu> savvas, then follow the CD upgrade instructions on the link in the topic.
[02:32] <ehird> soundray: and double clicked the little install icon on the desktop, yes, as i assumed that was the way to install :p
[02:32] <Fujitsu> savvas: Be warned that torrents are slow.
[02:32] <nikin> 61%
[02:32] <soundray> ehird: you generally assumed right... Did it take you to the partitioning tool then?
[02:32] <Dimensions> hi when i try to login as root to mysqladmin i get an error message that ...Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[02:33] <jc__> Does anyone know how to install software RAID1 in Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:33] <soundray> !raid | jc__
[02:33] <ubotu> jc__: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:33] <niksavel> apokryphos: I can use http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu for EVERY single instance in place of www.ubuntu.com in my repos?
[02:33] <apokryphos> nikin: for every instance of archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu specifically, yes
[02:33] <soundray> niksavel: in place of archive.ubuntu.com, yes
[02:34] <niksavel> thanks!
[02:34] <ehird> soundray: Yes, I chose my SATA HD and Manually edit partition table and did nothing in it, just pressed next - i had already prepared partitions with gparted and it worked in the previous release
[02:34] <ehird> it showed up the existing partitions, i changed /dev/sda2 to /, ticked Reformat (does it without the tick too), [Next] ... "No root partition"
[02:34] <soundray> ehird: it may be necessary to let the tool format your partitions.
[02:34] <YoussefAssad> wasn't there this script which selects fastest mirror?
[02:34] <soundray> ehird: oh, so you did that. Hmm.
[02:35] <frandavid100> hello!
[02:35] <jc__> thks i'll give it a try!
[02:35] <frandavid100> can someone please tell me how to write a ubuntu spec?
[02:35] <zenlinuxNH> "Who Loves Ubuntu? You Do!"
[02:35] <ehird> the drive is a standard Seagate 500gb affair by the way
[02:35] <soundray> ehird: can you open a Terminal, run 'sudo fdisk -l' and post the output in the pastebin pls
[02:35] <zenlinuxNH> That's my motto for today. :)
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: 500GB is a little more than standard to me, still ;)
[02:36] <surfi_boi> hey just a quick question the command: chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint
[02:36] <surfi_boi> is user replaced with myself
[02:36] <soundray> !pastebin >ehird
[02:36] <ehird> soundray: except i'm in windows right now, as i nuked my linux partition to do this and besides i couldn't get the net working with ubuntu anyway ;)
[02:36] <surfi_boi> and what do i put in the path/to/mountpoint
[02:36] <YoussefAssad> surfi_boi: no
[02:36] <tilmanBK> Can someone help me getting my bluetooth-connection to my mobile (Siemens S65) working again under edgy ?
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: try with the desktop CD
[02:36] <ehird> soundray: i guess i could boot the livecd
[02:36] <surfi_boi> if the axx point of the drive /home/o
[02:36] <soundray> ehird: we think along the same lines.
[02:36] <ehird> but
[02:37] <ehird> if it worked in the preious release, it seems a bit weird it wouldn't this time
[02:37] <ehird> was the installer even changed?
[02:37] <nikin> 71% :D
[02:37] <soundray> ehird: it probably was, even if it doesn't show superficially.
[02:38] <valehru> I have a windows and a edgy machine....both can see the wireless router interface....both can surf a specific wireless network, however only one can access (windows xp) the router manager at <IP_ADDRESS>  Could there be any reason for this?  I have connected the edgy machine to the router via ethernet,  it can ping it however it cannot bring up the wireless interface...suggestions welcome.
[02:38] <andy101> Anyone know which keyserver I can find the public key Ubuntu uses when signing the MD5sums for the CDs?
[02:38] <ehird> would it make a difference that i used Kubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.10 here?
[02:38] <soundray> ehird: but theorizing won't help -- at this stage it is a trial-and-error-and-diagnostics affair
[02:38] <RawSewage> The torrent is back up over 100 kBps
[02:38] <soundray> ehird: not for the partitioning, no.
[02:39] <nikin> valhru: what browser did you use in ubuntu?
[02:39] <soundray> RawSewage: thanks for keeping us up to date -- but are you sure that anyone but you needs to know this?
[02:39] <valehru> nikin, both of them used firefox, the one in ubuntu is firefox 2.0, the windows one is 1.5
[02:39] <RawSewage> soundray,  One can never be sure
[02:39] <ehird> soundray: ok, what was the command again?
[02:40] <RawSewage> Better safe than sorry
[02:40] <soundray> ehird: sudo fdisk -l
[02:40] <soundray> RawSewage: for that kind of thing, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <valehru> ahh....thanks nikin.
[02:40] <RawSewage> WRONG SIR
[02:40] <RawSewage> WRONG
[02:40] <bakaneko> anyone: i have set my static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, however at random times the interfaces changes and i loose the static ip i set, instead getting an older version of the static ip i set 6 months ago. i would like to know how to fix this problem and what daemon is causign it , any help is appreciated. thanks in advance
[02:40] <RawSewage> THIS IS A HOLIDAY
[02:40] <valehru> nikin, mozilla browser brings it up perfectly....thanks
[02:40] <apokryphos> rawrness: please drop the caps.
[02:40] <RawSewage> The Edgy Holiday
[02:40] <nikin> i use 1.5 on Ubuntu, and it is fine with my D-link 514
[02:40] <apokryphos> * RawSewage
[02:40] <ehird> soundray: i've built myself a natural avoidance of fdisk in my windoze days, will that do anythign except display something? :p
[02:41] <stojance_> How to make the minimize maximize and close buttons to show on the left side, like in a Mac. in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:41] <stojance_> dapper\\
[02:41] <soundray> ehird: it will *only* display. Check man fdisk to assure yourself.
[02:41] <stojance_> dapper*
[02:41] <andy101> Anyone know where I can get the public key to verify the MD5s supplied for Ubuntu CD images?
[02:41] <ehird> sudo fdisk -l. alright, /me puts the command on a floppy disk so he remembers
[02:42] <ehird> see you in a few minutes guys
[02:42] <surfi_boi> chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint -- Is the command i want to use however i am confused do i change user to myself and the /path/to/mountpoint .. do i change that to the axx point of my drive which is /home/o any advice would be appreciated
[02:42] <niksavel> I got some errors while doing dist-upgrade...
[02:42] <variant> surfi_boi: user and group can both be your username and the path should be the location at where you have mounted the parititon
[02:43] <eva> nikin i did try to do it but now i get a messsge that something is wron
[02:43] <soundray> niksavel: not worth reporting, unless you've run it a second time
[02:43] <nikin> eva: what is the message?
[02:43] <eva> nikin it is a very long one
[02:43] <nikin> oh :D
[02:43] <niksavel> okay re-running
[02:43] <nikin> wait... i intall it to... try to see it
[02:43] <nemesis4u> hello all
[02:43] <niksavel> ahem...
[02:43] <soundray> !pastebin | eva
[02:43] <ubotu> eva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:44] <niksavel> a n00b question
[02:44] <niksavel> do I need to shutdown x to do dist-upgrade?
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: no
[02:44] <nemesis4u> I haev the new cd of 6.10 - I believe there is away to upgrade from 6.06 but how?
[02:44] <soundray> niksavel: no
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: but to see changes to gnome or whatever you will have to log out and back ijn
[02:44] <nemesis4u> there is a hui updater i believe but where?
[02:44] <nemesis4u> gui i mean
[02:44] <variant> niksavel: and if the kernel is upgraded you will have to reboot before you are using it
[02:45] <soundray> nemesis4u: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades has all the info -- be patient and read the whole story.
[02:45] <nemesis4u> thanks m8
[02:45] <eva> nikin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28420/
[02:45] <niksavel> it said somehting about unmed dependecies while trying to install kdelibs and to use -f
[02:45] <niksavel> that okay?
[02:45] <niksavel> unmet..
[02:45] <soundray> niksavel: yes, try a 'sudo apt-get -f install' (no other options)
[02:46] <J_P> hi all
[02:46] <soundray> niksavel: are you on kde routinely?
[02:46] <niksavel> ahem...  routinely?
[02:46] <soundray> niksavel: do you use Gnome or KDE day-to-day?
[02:46] <niksavel> KDE
[02:46] <Nox_ville> hey again.. sorry my power went off...
[02:47] <niksavel> but I am running this updating thing in console
[02:47] <maxb_at_work> I've just followed EdgyUpgrades apt-get method, and amongst other things, 'ubuntu-minimal' is kept back apparently as a result, upstart is not installed
[02:47] <bokey> anyone here has apache experience ?
[02:47] <Nox_ville> whats that link for Nokia phones?...
[02:47] <surfi_boi> variant: So is the location i have mounted my partition the same as my axx point ie would the correct command be chmod -R thinkpol:thinkpol /home/o
[02:47] <soundray> niksavel: this question isn't directly related to your upgrade.
[02:47] <Nox_ville> !gnokii
[02:47] <niksavel> ach
[02:47] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.12-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 812 kB, installed size 2952 kB
[02:47] <niksavel> :)
[02:48] <nikin> eva: what program did you use to install, and what version of ubuntu do you use?
[02:48] <Fujitsu> maxb_at_work: make sure you run apt-get dist-upgrade twice.
[02:48] <niksavel> I'm using KDE on my lap and fluxbox on my old comp
[02:48] <niksavel> but I am probably going back to gnome soon
[02:48] <niksavel> with a fresh install
[02:48] <maxb_at_work> Fujitsu: done that.
[02:49] <soundray> niksavel: the reason I'm asking is that if these problems drag on, it might be useful to install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[02:49] <Nox_ville> anyone... will gnokii work via bluetooth
[02:49] <niksavel> I've started working in linux with ubuntu for a month or so than tried kubuntu - it's a lot prettier
[02:49] <eva> nikin did you see that
[02:49] <niksavel> that's like a reinstal?
[02:50] <soundray> Nox_ville: gnokii doesn't really care *how* you connect to your phone.
[02:50] <user-land> what is currently the fastest way to download Ubuntu ? bittorrent ?
[02:50] <RawSewage> Yes
[02:50] <nikin> eva: what?
[02:50] <boink> today? fast?
[02:50] <RawSewage> Use torrents
[02:50] <WooD> Hi !
[02:50] <RawSewage> They are faster
[02:50] <boink> user-land: don't think anyway would be fast today
[02:50] <niksavel> Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ...
[02:50] <niksavel> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:50] <niksavel>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent-2.0
[02:50] <niksavel> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:50] <niksavel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:50] <niksavel>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: no, it's a package that consists only of dependencies. Having it often ensures a smoother upgrade.
[02:51] <eva> nikin i did paste a like to the error i got
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: don't paste any errors here.
[02:51] <nikin> i have looked at the pastebin
[02:51] <niksavel> I'm gonna do that than...
[02:51] <surfi_boi>  chmod -R thinkpol:users /home/o.... However when i do that i get the error chmod: invalid mode: `thinkpol:users'
[02:51] <niksavel> sorry
[02:51] <eva> nikin link
[02:51] <surfi_boi> any ideas
[02:51] <AlexC_> Hey guys, can anyone help me - I can't even boot into the LiveCD -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=284874
[02:51] <Nox_ville> k... lets start again.. i need to connect my nokia 6230i to my ubuntu pc via bluetooth connection
[02:51] <WooD> Any know how to upgrade firefox 2 in ubuntu? I have download the firefox2.tar.gz from the website and its ready to run
[02:51] <Nox_ville> any ideas
[02:51] <soundray> niksavel: run 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.5-0ubuntu3_all.deb'
[02:51] <RawSewage> WooD, upgrade to Edgy
[02:52] <WooD> RawSewage: what is edgy ?
[02:52] <eva> nikin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28420/
[02:52] <cyphase> the new version of ubuntu
[02:52] <RawSewage> WooD, the new version of Ubuntu that was just released
[02:52] <cyphase> it was just release hours ago
[02:52] <Nox_ville> Wood: esgy the the good shit
[02:52] <cyphase> released*
[02:52] <WooD> hoooooooooooo
[02:52] <Nox_ville> *is the
[02:52] <soundray> Nox_ville: keep this channel clean pls
[02:52] <nemesis4u> wooo hooo - I am starting the upgrade :-) - does anyone know if there have been inssues with Vmware after doing the upgrade - as in kernel-headers or anything like that?
[02:52] <AlexC_> which also doesn't work on Intel Core 2 Duo's/Abit AB9
[02:52] <rixxon> how much space do i need free to get edgy from dapper
[02:52] <Nox_ville> k... lets start again.. i need to connect my nokia 6230i to my ubuntu pc via bluetooth connection
[02:52] <WooD> RawSewage: ok Ill do that then
[02:52] <Nox_ville> sorry soundray...
[02:52] <cyphase> Nox_ville: please stop repeating that
[02:53] <Nox_ville> sorry.. thought there was a ./ignore./.... ;)
[02:53] <Toma-> Nox_ville: what do you need to do with your phone? transfer?
[02:53] <nikin> i see... but dont no what is with the repo
[02:53] <soundray> !pm | Nox_ville
[02:53] <ubotu> Nox_ville: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[02:53] <cyphase> if there is, it doesn't matter how many times you send it
[02:53] <wdamn> Hi, what mirrors do you advise for powerpc64?
[02:53] <elkbuntu> Nox_ville, please understand there's 1059 people in this channel today. it is very busy
[02:54] <Nox_ville> need to transfer and use as a bluetooth modem..
[02:54] <bakaneko> possible solution to: i have set my static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, however at random times the interfaces changes and i loose the static ip i set, instead getting an older version of the static ip i set 6 months ago. i would like to know how to fix this problem and what daemon is causign it , any help is appreciated. thanks in advance.  Solution: sudo chmod -w /etc/network/interfaces
[02:54] <Nox_ville> to connect to net.
[02:54] <niksavel> soundray: okay, I did that, after that I got another only dependancy prob with java, but -f install is going on
[02:54] <nikin> i ame trying to install it to... maybe i can see the problem
[02:54] <WooD> do i need to download a cd to be able to update Dapper ?
[02:54] <Toma-> Nox_ville: youll need gnokii gnome-bluetooth package
[02:54] <Toma-> *and
[02:54] <WooD> I mean to update dapper to edgy
[02:54] <RawSewage> !upgrade
[02:54] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:54] <soundray> niksavel: things are looking up then.
[02:54] <zircx> ok, well that's pretty impressive so far so good
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: indeed :)
[02:55] <cyphase> we're the top channel right now
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: what was that command?
[02:55] <niksavel> soundray: some black ubuntu magic surely :)
[02:55] <kleinlapp> hello everyone
[02:55] <Nox_ville> Toma: do you have a link for me?
[02:55] <Toma-> !bluetooth
[02:55] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:55] <Toma-> thatll help
[02:55] <Nox_ville> or is it already on the local repositories
[02:55] <Eldin> I have a microphone plugged in, how do I get ubuntu to recognise it?
[02:55] <soundray> niksavel: the dpkg one? It just told the installer that it was okay to overwrite a file that was also provided by another package.
[02:56] <ehird> !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <Toma-> Nox_ville: should be in universe
[02:56] <Nox_ville> Eldin.. you should just be able to set is in alsamixer
[02:56] <zircx> ok, I think I'm having a problem with installing stuff due to the repository, what is the best repository address to add to the repositories list for synaptic or apt-get source.list
[02:56] <Nox_ville> cool
[02:56] <ehird> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28423/
[02:56] <WooD> RawSewage: thanks
[02:56] <cyphase> Eldin, it doesn't recognize the mic, it recognizes the input port
[02:56] <cyphase> unless it's a usb mic
[02:56] <Eldin> Nox_ville: Tried that, but will try again
[02:56] <niksavel> soundray: is it normal for such problems to occur?  I'd prolly never know how to fix that myself...
[02:56] <AlexC_> Guys I have a new PC, Intel Core 2 Duo and Abit AB9 - Edgy just refuses to boot the liveCD - I either get Error loading boot CD or it gets stuck loading the Kernel. why is this?
[02:56] <Nox_ville> oh.. that sux
[02:56] <Eldin> Ah, no, it's not a usb mic
[02:56] <kleinlapp> thefish ahoy you there?
[02:57] <cyphase> finally, my torrent just hit 100KB/s
[02:57] <thefish> howdy kleinlapp
[02:57] <prower> Anyone running Ubuntu on an AMD AM2-based system yet? ;> Investing in one soon
[02:57] <soundray> niksavel: it's a packaging bug, so shouldn't happen. But that's the kind of problem that we're here to help with ;)
[02:57] <soundray> ehird: reading...
[02:57] <finalbeta> How do I send output from a command to nothing? All output, including errors
[02:57] <rixxon> lol, 1551 packages to install/upgrade
[02:58] <Rookie_> finalbeta - /dev/null
[02:58] <eva> nikin ok thanks
[02:58] <RawSewage> rixxon, probably well over 1 gb
[02:58] <finalbeta> Rookie_, including errors.
[02:58] <ehird> sda2 is what i tried to mount as root
[02:58] <soundray> ehird: try a 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt'
[02:58] <rixxon> RawSewage: yep, was around 1,1Gio
[02:58] <finalbeta> something with |1/2 can't remember
[02:58] <finalbeta> &2
[02:58] <kleinlapp> thefish going to get registered quickly
[02:58] <ehird> soundray: at what point of installation?
[02:58] <whyameye> finalbeta: to send errors is 2> /dev/null.
[02:58] <soundray> ehird: oh, are you back in Windows?
[02:59] <AlexC_> Guys I have a new PC, Intel Core 2 Duo and Abit AB9 - Edgy just refuses to boot the liveCD - I either get Error loading boot CD or it gets stuck loading the Kernel. why is this?
[02:59] <niksavel> I have a general question too:  :)    I've tried both gnome and kde versions of ubuntu, and I deffinitely prefer working with ubuntu and looking at kubuntu, which deffinitely poses a problem :)   I was wondering is there a way to make gnome display fonts a bit less "pixellated" like a bit of antialiasing or whatever it is that KDE is doing?
[02:59] <Rookie_> the basic command is /dev/null .... > /dev/null for to be more exact
[02:59] <ehird> soundray: yes, remember, i don't have ubuntu installed right now: i nuked my linux partition for edgy and besides, ubuntu won't work with my internet connection right now for a few reasons so i wouldn't be here anyway
[03:00] <nemesis4u> wooo hooo - I am starting the upgrade :-) - does anyone know if there have been inssues with Vmware after doing the upgrade - as in kernel-headers or anything like that? - can someone pm me if they know of this? just so much happening in this channel
[03:00] <finalbeta> Rookie_, whyameye  Was looking for >/dev/null 2>&1 , thnx
[03:00] <soundray> ehird: I thought you might have connectivity from the live CD.
[03:00] <surfi_boi>  chmod -R thinkpol:users /home/o.... However when i do that i get the error chmod: invalid mode: `thinkpol:users'
[03:00] <joona> nemesis4u: yes, vmware compiles few modules against kernel sources
[03:00] <nemesis4u> ta
[03:00] <soundray> ehird: the reason I suggested the mount attempt was to see if there was something obviously wrong with the filesystem on /dev/sda2
[03:00] <joona> but it doesn't affect you unless you upgrade your kernel too
[03:00] <nemesis4u> :-
[03:00] <guillem101> niksavel, gnome should show the same font rendering quaility than KDE, if not better...
[03:00] <nemesis4u> :-)
[03:01] <ehird> soundray: to get connectivity, i have to compile stuff and modify the filesystem, which i obviously can't do on the livecd :)
[03:01] <JoseStefan> AlexC_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[03:01] <thefish> surfi_boi: you should do it user.group not user:group
[03:01] <soundray> ehird: an option might be to download an ext2 driver for Windows and try with that.
[03:01] <guillem101> niksavel, gnome-font-properties
[03:01] <joona> nemesis4u: you can run the vmware install script again anytime, to get the vmware modules built again and back up
[03:01] <ehird> soundray: And I think the filesystem is fine. Should I chkdsk it? That's solved a problem on it before
[03:02] <soundray> ehird: that would have been my next suggestion.
[03:02] <ehird> i just formatted it with gparted, though, so i dunno what could be wrong
[03:02] <niksavel> okay, I'll give it a try :)
[03:02] <SpaceFrog> hey guys
[03:02] <apokryphos> hi
[03:02] <AlexC_> JoseStefan: Thanks I will look through that - but that really does suck they couldnt fix it for the EDgy release
[03:02] <kleinlapp> thefish whats the sites name where i can paste large amount of text? want to write and explain my position -- if thats ok whit you?
[03:02] <soundray> ehird: you know you have to make gparted carry out the planned changes after you've configured them?
[03:03] <Nox_ville> kleinlapp: pastebin
[03:03] <SpaceFrog> has anyone had any luck getting Flash 9 working with Firefox 2.0 ? I had Flash9 and Firefox1.5 on here before i upgraded to 2.0, and now it's reverted back to Flash7 and i cannot find the flash7 .so file to replace with version 9
[03:03] <surfi_boi> still getting the same error thefish
[03:03] <ehird> soundray: : i'm not that stupid, of course I did ;)
[03:03] <kleinlapp> Nox_ville thanks
[03:03] <thefish> surfi_boi: paste the whole command here please
[03:03] <Nox_ville> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/'
[03:03] <Nox_ville> *http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:03] <n_3o> hi
[03:03] <nikin> eva: i found an alternate soulution
[03:03] <Dimensions> hi i have installed php and mysql along with apache2 ... when i try to login to it or any thing it gives an error ... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2).... when i check there is no mysqld.sock ... what should i do ????
[03:03] <WooD> how long it takes to upgrade from dapper to edgy ?
[03:03] <nikin> without any repoing
[03:03] <soundray> ehird: sorry -- I've been known to be that stupid.
[03:03] <surfi_boi> chmod -R user:group /path/to/mountpoint -- Is the command i want to use however i am confused do i change user to myself and the /path/to/mountpoint .. do i change that to the axx point of my drive which is /home/o any advice would be appreciated
[03:04] <ehird> guess i'll *shudder* chkdisk
[03:04] <surfi_boi> chmod -R thinkpol.users /home/o
[03:04] <thefish> surfi_boi: or the pastebin in the channel subject :)
[03:04] <jdt_> surfi_boi: are you not wanting chgrp?
[03:04] <ehird> there it goes
[03:04] <nikin> go to acrobat.com and there Download > Acrobat reader
[03:04] <c0nf> hiya :)
[03:04] <soundray> surfi_boi: the command is chown
[03:04] <nikin> get the tar.gz version for Linux
[03:04] <ehird> i'll try now
[03:04] <ehird> bye
[03:04] <surfi_boi> i just want to change the access of a new parition so a normal user can write to it easily
[03:04] <Dimensions> ***waiting***
[03:04] <n_3o> does anyone in here know anything about wifi? i checked #netstumbler and threre is nobody there.. also.. Im having problems with my wifi ISP connection.. DROPOUT etc. Lose connection, gain conneciton.. please could anyone with knowledge on how to troubleshoot this help me .. Andrew in Africa
[03:04] <surfi_boi> so is it possible you could give me an abridged command
[03:04] <thedude0> sup c0nf
[03:04] <sith-lord> yo
[03:05] <c0nf> good, good
[03:05] <c0nf> ya?
[03:05] <c0nf> yo sith-lord
[03:05] <shiznix`> Hi
[03:05] <vorbote> SpaceFrog: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so, that's what you wnat to replace. (Nest time remember that dpkg and locate are your friends).
[03:05] <c0nf> hi shachaf_ xD
[03:05] <soundray> surfi_boi: you had it right, except that it's chown not chmod
[03:05] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod does numeric permissions on files (ie chmod 755 /bla) - chown is what you want to OWN a file
[03:05] <c0nf> shiznix`*
[03:05] <c0nf> :p
[03:05] <Nox_ville> Andrew,. are you in SA?
[03:05] <SpaceFrog> thanks vorbote
[03:05] <n_3o> yes
[03:05] <thefish> surfi_boi: chown -R user.group /path
[03:05] <n_3o> Republic of South Africa
[03:05] <shiznix`> fun
[03:05] <sith-lord> investigating
[03:05] <variant> surfi_boi: you can use chown or chmod
[03:06] <Mojee> i need help with installing ubuntu plz
[03:06] <surfi_boi> ok the command worked with chown
[03:06] <Nox_ville> n_3o: me to ...
[03:06] <Nox_ville> does anyone know the correct configuration for nokia 6230i setup with gnokii... the tutorial is only for LG, Samsun and Sony Ericson..
[03:06] <surfi_boi> but when i try to guide into the dir it still shows read only
[03:06] <AlexC_> oh, exelent, great. I can only install Ubuntu if I have a 1GB USB stick ... great......amazing
[03:06] <thefish> surfi_boi: chmod is just to change user/group/other permissions
[03:06] <n_3o> I have a sony ericcson
[03:06] <variant> what am i talking about...
[03:06] <n_3o> but seriously.. anyone know how to fix wifi problems?